[HD2 General] TommyRose:
I think that a post like this must be done, because I can't find anything right, and i have read many other people questioning about :

my device HTC HD2 Leo must be the best mp3 player!

-2 days ago I was thinking: yeah this hd2 is a great device, but to complicate to do some things and ecc.. I'm not a programmer, i can't do by myself I alwas have to wait to find solutions and twaeks.. even music, i can’t import a simple playlist.. i don't know.. I never try an iphone. Probably is simpler, it's almost a legend, it's firstly an ipod… At least music will be perfect... i will think about..

-yesterday i tried an iphone: i wanted just to test the music software, but i immediatly realized: Wow is this an iphone?!?! it seems a toys!!! and the music soft it's even less powerfull and functional then i was thinking! Always too enphasys on this object! it just slide well!... and i can't do anything different here..bhaaa

No matches, come proudly back on my wm hd2... !! at the end it really eats all other devices,and i have to solve his problem!..

Spending again time in serching, finally i found a way to manage music pc-device for good. yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!! more complex than expected, but damn, it works. As usuall for McGuiver’s breed\wm users :P.

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The first problem is the music software on pc, you can choose obviously what you want, tranfer just songs has no problem for all. The problem is playlists exporting in ALL cases. I want my (sorry it needs months) mood-auto-playlists, or 4-stars-upper or everithing else both on pc and device with the ability of playing them when i want..but…but…but.. nothing?!?!? Are you joking me?? it’s so strange I want it, without rebuilding all playlist on device?!? Not perfect sync pc-device and reverse device-pc..just my playlist on device when i sync..

unlucky, it ‘s so because of some issues in devices and pc software options ...

1: pc music software in my experience:

Windows media player 12

: good default software but limited. Even if is the windows software, now it can't tag music, and syncing it's unable to export the playlist file on device, only songs. (i belive probably we will see a windows phone7 ad hoc software, there no answers to that strange support, probably they want to make wm7 more attractive..)

MediaMonkey

: the best music managing player! and not only the best, if you really want to organize music in deep way, it's the ONLY allinone solution. but as for the hd2, you have to search and learn a lot on the net, I had many problems in first experience. In the end, it can do everything on devices and pc. There's just one problem, it exports well playlists(m3u) but on wm device with storage card they were ‘wrong’written. argh! (but now i can solve!)

Itunes

: personally i don't like it, but it's a good manager. Nothing really better against the others, it’s just comfortable if you have an apple device. if you depend from it, you can find solutions like pocket tunes software, or else.. but why when i have MM, and many software music player device? :P

Winamp, foobar, vlc..

they where appreciated software too, but for me MM still does everything better..

2: I conclusively choose MM. But how export well playlists? The problem remain that when I export a playlist, MM can’t recognize the songs file path written in playlists. So you’ll have readable lists imported, without the right file association. If you look in playlists opening them with notepad, songs playlists path will be: music\artist\album\song ..instead of the right (for most device player) storage card\music\artist\album\ songs…

In these way the only device software able to read these ‘wrong’ playlists will be that great free software called S2p from A_C, that can be extended with S2U2too. It works well, and probably on any wm device, but in my opinion on my Hd2 I would like something even better if possible..

I took a look on other software, and even if they are not all free, they all have their + and -. Playlists are featured not so much and well too.. Between them I personally prefer these two:

Pocket Player

: the best in general,scrolling ,playlist,nowplaying,ratings,albumart..

haven't tried with 10 gigs jet, but it’s really the most powerful, usable, music oriented one.. even if some things are still not perfect, I hope they will be fixed on 4.2 release. It reads M3U playlists and other.

Htc audio manager(manila/sense music tab)

: It’s the only one with that beautiful landscape mode. - : must be tweaked to scan the right folder on SD, navigation has not alphabet scroll, and at the end I think that PP works better, but it’s good and already installed. It reads just ASX playlists file.

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Converting:

Everithing you choose, the important is to understand the right file format for playlists on your device player. HTC->asx, PP->m3u, others->…………. And converting will make you free :D

As said the only auto-exportable playlists files, seems to come only with MM, and being my player I’ll work with these. It ‘s stupidly complex, I have to admit, but … works!

Hoping that someone in future could make it simpler

(in MM or in wm devices, please!!):

After I sync device with MM importing mp3s and playlists files, written playlists’ songs path, as said, will be readable but wrong\incomplete for all player except s2p. And all the other players remain unusable in this way.

To solve, the only solution I found is to convert that file in working one, and you need two tools:

-m3uToAsxConverter (for pc) http://electron.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29731

-and PlaylistManager (on device) i don’t remember link, sorry( Google it)

In this way, if you drag and drop the imported-device-not-working-m3uplaylist-file ( that has not ‘storage card’ write in paths) on m3uToAsxConverter.exe file. It will be converted automatically in an asx file (good for htc audio manager) with also the right path rewritten.

Now re-import manually the converted playlist on device, and open that with PlaylistManager.

If you want to insert it in HTC AM, go for file , save as HTCoption….

Or if you want it for others players, choose simply save as , for example in PP folder, and convert the asx file again in an m3u file.

Finally you’ll have all your playlists on device too, remembering ,thanks to McGuyver, to update them when something change on the pc library.

That’s so! Yhahuuuu :D

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Hoping this could help others, I’m quite a newbie in Wm world, so I don’t know if all this is the best solution , but in all the time I spent searching about, this is the only working way..

Let me know if you discover\do something better please!

where we want to go without XDA :P!

a big kiss from italy