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[General Topics] eaglesteve:
What I still don't like about LockInfo and Cydget widgets on iPhone

In case there are any iPhone developers out there reading this post, I would like to list out what to me are areas for improvements. This is only from my own perspective of course.

1) So far, little thoughts have been given to making key information easily availalable in the form of a single screen from anywhere. The only wizard that seem to understand this is the InfoShade component of the LockInfo wizard. InfoShade has cleverly integrated notifications and key information. More widget developers should incorporate this design concept.

2) LockInfo itself allows additional plugins to be added to it. So far, I have seen weather, todo list, mails, sms, phone, twitter, third party notifications, calendar. But I had not been able to find any Stock/Currency/World indices plugins which can be added to InfoLock/InfoShade, although there are plenty non-InfoShade based wizards which I do not find particularly useful because I can't see time with a quick swipe anywhere within any application. This is one glaringly plugin to work on in the future.

3) I like Cydget, primarily because it allows LockInfo to be integrated to it as a plugin. However, Cydget expects user to navigate to other pages by pressing the Home button on the lock screen. It should imitate the likes of Smartscreen wizards, which uses left and right swipe to move from page to page. This is more intuitive. Since Smartscreen can do it, I see no reason why Cydget can't do the same.

4) Currently, I can display LockInfo info on page one of the springboard. I like to see similar capability for a Plugin such as the Aquarium to provide the option to also appear on designated page of the springboard. Perhaps page two. Or may be in page 1 and LockInfo wizard on page two. In that way, the phone would be able to provide high definition and sexy animation not just on the lock screen but also on the springboard. The beauty of this is that with Overboard, the "helicopter screen" would allows the user to jump to any wizard, any category of application, as well as the global search screen directly. That would be in my view perfection!
[General Topics] eaglesteve:
Universal Search on Android

What is the most feature rich Universal Search application available on Android phones that lets users search what's on the phone, as well as using other search engines such as Wikipedia, google, amazon, eby, etc?

I came across an application called LaunchIt, as demonstrated by this video, but I'm not sure if this is it.

I also saw that there is a google search application on the desktop, but not sure if that's the one which most Android phone users are using.

Can someone help me gain more accurate understanding on the power of google Universal Search capabilities?
[General Topics] eaglesteve:
My ideal search tool

iPhone's search tool is okay but still far from what I'm looking for.

Ideally, I want it to have the following capabilities:

1) Ability to use hardware to invoke from anywhere.

2) Supports voice to text input

3) Search as much as possible

- Web search (new in OS 4.0)

- Wikipedia search (new in OS 4.0)

- Search for contact name, and contents within contact

- Search for applications installed on the phone

- Search for applications in the app store

- Search for music's name, artist, or album name

- Search for podcast

- search for video

- search for audiobooks

- search for notes name and within notes.

- search for mails and text within the mails

- search for calendar items

- search in google map

- Search in twitter

- Search in movies database such as IMDB, RottenTomatoes

- Image search

- Search in Dictionaries

- Search in ebay, amazon, itunes,

- Search for local business directories, yellow pages, white pages.

4) Integrate the voice to text with ability to start an application, start music player and play by genre/artist/song/album.

5) Iincorporate voice to text with voice dialing. After all, we've already search the contact, right?

iPhone has a few issues: Voice dialing etc are separate application from the global search. Also, while it is possible to extend what could be search with third party application, there are still glaring holes.

May be asking for too much. Is there anything like that available on the Android phone?
[General Topics] gogol:
Rrrr ...

How could you say that?

"typically have poor functions" .... "tend to be more buggy" ...?

Don't you think that could be the cause of the developer who create the widget?

Why you make such generalization?

Obviously, you don't know what you are talking about. What you said just based on your hatred towards your experience with HTC HD2 "widget" (does WinMo has widget???) ???

Oh well ...
[General Topics] er6ben:
This thread is seriously still alive !

Hey look ! Now you can call me Mr.Three posts ! Hooray for you and your detective skills.

XDA is a sometimes valuable source of information for myself and many others and I have found it very useful in getting me out of a jam or two since I have discovered the joy of Android. That said, I have found all of the answers I have EVER needed by simpling READING the posts from those that know what they are doing.

With the vast amount of information available to you on the internet I would think that one such as your self ( read: Douchebag ) could figure it out with little to no effort at all.

You sir, have wasted sooooo much space on this forum to no real result whatsoever that I seriously question your intentions. It makes me wonder just who the hell has that much time on their hands......do you even own a phone ? (and no your rhinestone studded LG Lotus does not count )

So go ahead and type 20 more pages about your utterly terrible confusion between a rooted Android phone and a jailbroken iphone and make sure you toss in another snide comment or two at your naysayers, but I have to go to work now...........It's alot of work supporting your mother.
[General Topics] Tabbe:
Hope no one post after me

make this topic rip

conclusion is iphone after jailbreak doesnt win android still
[General Topics] enatefox:
sorry Tabbe, this picture never made more sense

(edited for decency, lulz)
[General Topics] Alex530:
Ummm

In a nutshell:

ANdroid- Multi tasking, Notifications bar, Root Acces, TRACKBALL!

Iphone:True Multitouch, Cracked Apps, More apps(For Now), Slim.

Both Are best of both worlds i guess im using my iphone and its not too bad i stilll mess with my g1 even though though its having "technical difficulties so im not with the htc better then apple or vice-versa both are boss in some way:cool:
[General Topics] guanmingdao:
Android definitely supports skipping songs by holding the volume rocker in the desired direction, from 1.5 through 2.3.

HTC Droid Eris 2.3.3 GSB v.2.8
[General Topics] gazelem37:
I would have to say that for corporate use, which is almost always going to be Microsoft Exchange iPhone has an edge. It supports the encryption natively which is what corporations look for. Yes, Android's Touchdown is a great app and works seamlessly but since it doesn't have the native encryption businesses aren't as interested. That said, I think it would also depend on the company's policy of use for that phone. In my company we are reimbursed up to a certain amount for minutes and data usage for email, etc. Basically this is a personal phone that I use for business some of the time and prefer many of Android's tools over iPhone, not the least of which is the ability to customize. In my opinion this isn't truly an apples to apples comparison in many regards. iPhone is one of the best at having a UI that is easy to use and understand and their software and hardware integrate so well because the one is built for the other which brings unparalleled stability. Android, much like Microsoft Windows, has to support so many different hardwares with each phone manufacturer developing their own UI to integrate on top of Android OS and this can cause instability. Also when updates for the OS are developed phone manufactures have to take the update and reintegrate with their software and then push it to phones which makes updating slower. Both are absolutely great but there are many variables to consider when choosing.
[General Topics] Airfare:
Got to have both i cant see myself without both. I just cant stick with one phone that can do it all but not all as the other keeps me interested while the other keeps me fascinated. With updates coming out it will be a matter of time when both os will become equaled and eventually ending to combine as a whole for the next gen of eagerly awaiting addicted smartphone enthusiast hoping to end there helplessly needs to have a phone that they can call there own.......
[General Topics] scyld:
I've been curious about this myself.

Just one correction--you CAN use the volume rocker on Android device to control more than the volume.

I don't have my device on me, but I'm pretty sure that the music playing capabilities on the Cyanogenmod 7 ROM lets you use the volume rocker this way. Also I believe some apps add this functionality. Correct me if I'm wrong...
[General Topics] kimmikolter:
The possibilities are endless with cm7 :rolleyes:
[General Topics] scyld:
I have to say that you have at least one other error which detracts from the Android platform:

You can get smart multitasking for the Android through JuiceDefender. I don't know if there are other smart multitasking apps out on the Android Market, but this one is probably the best.

And I will confirm the thing about the volume rocker tonight.
[General Topics] k_nivesout:
You can skip tracks forward/backward by holding the volume rocker up or down in cm7.
[General Topics] autom8r:
Wierd
[General Topics] autom8r:
Interesting
[General Topics] Feeshie:
Lol It's been fun reading this whole thread. It looks more like him bashing android and how iOS is much better than a comparing thread. He clearly has no idea what he is talking about and has taken facts in videos, not from personal experience with any android device.
[General Topics] yishenyou:
Reserved for future use
[General Topics] Hamsn:
I think even an un-rooted Android phone is much comparable to a jailbroken iPhone.

Certainly what we can do with Android is larger compared to iPhone. iPhone and jailbreak, they are good for themselves, but comparing to Android, its a different story.
[General Topics] scyld:
Yeah, I don't understand how he seems so confident about all his untrue claims about Android's limitations. Look, the iPad2 is a great piece of hardware, and it has much more powerful graphics performance than the best Android tablet offers. But this thread is full of flat-out incorrect assertions and selectiveness comparison categories that favor the iPad heavily.

In addition, he's being inconsistent with applying his own rules to the comparison, heavily in the iPad's favor. Merely as one example--

First he seems to say that there is only one program in all of Androidom that lets you play media and organize playlists. Not only that, but he talks about the "default music player" as though it's at all relevant, in violation of his own rules:

This comparison is completely misleading, I'm afraid.
[General Topics] angry_elk:
Oh great, another "neutral comparison" with none of the neutrality.

If someone modded the iOS user interface to look and function exactly like the Android interface and vice versa, NOBODY would be able to tell the difference. They're both very well-built, robust and pretty much equal, functionally speaking. The real tangible difference is in the hardware.

Apple makes some fantastic hardware (except desktops, but nobody takes those plastic abominations seriously anyway) and iPhone is no exception. These things will last a lot longer than even some of the uber high-end Android devices, but you also pay premium for that sort of build quality. And by premium I mean an arm and both legs. See: iPad.

Android devices vary hugely in comparison. You could get a sub $200 tablet with Etch-a-Sketch for display and powered by nothing but hopes and dreams, or spend close to a grand for an iPad equivalent that infuriates and provokes hipsters at Starbucks.

The tired and old cliche applies here: They're apples and oranges. Pick whichever hardware (and software, to a lesser degree) suits your needs, buy it and stop making threads like this.
[General Topics] Falkkon:
I have both an iPhone in the house and two Android phones. For the average person, I think a vanilla iPhone is just fine.

Some of the things I like about iPhone (JB'd or not):

The apps seem to be generally stable and overall just as powerful (and sometimes just as frivolous)

The UI is certainly intuitive for it's age

If you don't mind waiting or being tied to iTunes, getting what you want on the phone can be fairly straightforward

What I personally don't:

I hate iTunes and it's marketing schema

I don't like being restricted to having to jailbreak a phone in order to access the data I've paid for to put it where I want it to be (again, more of an iTunes issue)

What I like about Android:

It's customization level depends solely on your capabliites as a User - most vanilla UI's are intuitive and easy to use, many come with their own software to help you with this

It has a microSD card! I didn't think this mattered as much to me in the beginning, but I like having 3 or 4 cards with different types of music for my particular mood that day

What I dont like about Android:

Having so many phones from so many different manufacturers can often cause problems between different applications, lowering the stability score a small amount. Many of the things I would like to use, for example, run slowly on my phone, forcing me to look closely at upgrades. With the iPhone, it seems it's mostly down to how much space you want to have on a phone.

All of this is purely my subjective point of view, and like I said, I've got two different Android phones and an iPhone, and wouldn't give up any of them. They all serve their purpose in their own right.
[General Topics] drivebynerf:
agreed, though im a droid phone/xoom user ive used and own apple devices and know many peope whol live by their iphones...it comes down to what makes them use it and enjoy it..though i wish my htc had same pic quality as iphone 4 lol
[General Topics] SuperDeform:
Im starting see a lot of people go on apple but to me android was always customizable from the start and that it had more options way too many its like a maze where iphone had one.
[General Topics] rorytmeadows:
I can't believe this thread never went anywhere. I'm terribly interested in looking at a comparison chart of this.

However, I think the approach is way off. All we need to establish are the variables to frame the chart and then just fill in the blanks.

For example, some variables of comparison:

File access

System folder access

Avoid forced media syncing through dedicated software (iTunes)

Customized home screen

Customized task bar

Bypass wifi tethering

Ad blocking

etc etc.

But that's it. Just name the variables a bit more specific than the OP and have everyone fill in the checkboxes.
[General Topics] kelnhofer:
That,s because there is NO comparison!!!
[General Topics] harishdhandev:
i had a jailbreaken iphone a year back , i just loved one thing abt it tht even if it was dead , i could just hook it up to itunes and snap ! the phone was running again .

now i am a proud owner of a rooted samsung galaxy s2 , got it bricked once . flashing resolved the problem . had my share of problems with it but would chose android all the time above iOS !
[General Topics] rorytmeadows:
Here's the skinny:

If you like iPhone, you're gay. If you don't think you're gay, you are. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just know where you stand even if you're not ready to admit it.

If you like Android, you're either a nerd or awesome. Or both. You could be both. Nothing wrong with both.
[General Topics] 007law:
so download the third party music app :p

---------- Post added at 06:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:01 AM ----------

my girlfriend want a iphone, but i prefer a S2 to she , we argue few day for this issue . . .:o
[General Topics] Barkleyfan:
Can't get as specific as you'd like. What I can offer is my insight.

I went with the Moto Droid. Several reasons it works for me. Number one is network. Verizon offers better connectivity than any other network available. Not just their 3G map, but also call quality. GSM networks drop calls pretty regularly in my experience. Not one dropped call since I went with VZW. And as I spend alot of time outside city limits, I spent a LOT of time on a crappy EDGE connection, until I went to VZW.

Next selling point for me is that google encourages development, and with an open source platform, root access is easily available. There is an app in the market to root. Not gonna find that in Apples market. There's an app in the market to quickly and simply switch ROMs and themes. You can try out roms from several different chefs, from hacked leaked official roms, to roms developed from source. Again, both Apple and Microsoft frown on this.

Next selling point is hardware. From the slider keyboard, to the ability to get Snapdragon processor speeds, to the simplistic ability to swap a battery without tools or voiding my warranty, to the WVGA capacitive screen, the Droid just wins for me.

With the unofficial release of Swype, I could likely learn to live without the slider keyboard. Screen resolution, not so much. Things that could bait me into switching to something newer is Flash support (I can't view half the media on the internet) more native memory, and more complete bluetooth profiles. Dumbphones from several years ago could accomplish voice dialing over bluetooth. My Droid should too.

Copy and paste can be done from any editable text field. It can also be done from anything in the web browser, altho my browser hasn't been stock since I got the phone in November.

Nice little extras are things like apps that give me offline maps, should I mountainbike far enough to lose data. Voice recognition is pretty good on the handset itself. The camera quality is real good in decent lighting. Led flash is enough to get the job done, and real handy for a flashlight. GPS quality is superb compared to my HTC Kaiser.
[General Topics] eaglesteve:
OS developement, keyboard, cut & paste, camera

Your insight is still appreciated. Don't worry about not going into specific, although that would be preferable. The devil is in the details, they said.

Network would no doubt affect user's choice, but for the sake of this thread, I would like to discard it.

Google encourages ROM cooking, firmware modification, etc. Apple tries hard to stop jailbreaking. Point taken. I said more than once to people on iPhone forums that the day when Apple is successful in blocking jailbreaking is also the day I see many iPhone diehards mass migrate to Android, unless the functions and features of the stock OS are beefed up adequately. This includes things like being able to jump to any part of the webpages or application screens, two touch to toggle anything (wifi, data connection, screen rotation, 3G, flight mode, location services, screen brightness control, etc), hardware button customization, youtube download, third party music players, file download managers, full bluetooth file transfer, file manager, multiple icon move across springboard pages, making phone a wifi hotspot (it has been disabled by some Telco), full music control without switching on the phone (pause, play, forward, skip) when headset is not used, and theme. These are the major features that I can only obtain by jailbreaking now.

The point about hardware is 100% valid again. That's why you guys have the chance to consider HTC Supersonic, which I seriously droll over. Personally I hate hardware keyboard. Correction. I intensely hate hardware keyboard. That's just me. I once had a HTC Athena with detachable hardware keyboard, but I never use it. Don't know why. I just prefer the flexibility and power of onscreen keyboard. I use several languages, some only in handwriting, so hardware keyboard falls flat. I also don't like to be tied to just one screen orientation. I would immediately write off any phone that comes with a hardware keyboard actually. Sorry to those of you who loves hardware keyboard to say this.

I think iPhone's cut and paste is the best in the smartphone industry now. Consistent, available at not just data entry fields but also lets my copy from non-data entry portion, intuitive. Android is a little disappointing to me in this department.

Someone once said that camera on mobile phones are the best, not because it has the best lens and megapixel, but becuase it is always available all the time. Also, I personally would resist any marketing hype touting very high number in megapixel, unless the lens and thickness of the phone goes with it. Otherwise, we have real problem taking pictures in low light, see lots of noise in the pictures, and sharpness actually suffers instead of improve.
[General Topics] Tabbe:
i have iphone 3g and acer liquid and motorola droid

i have jailbreak my iphone until they official lock my radio.

seriously only those who knows how to jailbreak will like iphone more but those dun will have go to android anytime when they hands on to it.

and dont know when is apple unable to unlock.

android is easier with data transfer from phone to pc as once its connected it became a thumbdrive.

i have transfer video and other files easily, video from youtube with 720 resolution playback smoothly on acer but not droid as its not using snapdragon and iphone which needed convertion again

alots of apps connecting to china server for free video and mp3 directly download onto sd card
[General Topics] vangrieg:
Business use

Since we're talking about jailbroken iPhone I would dismiss the needs of IT departments and large-scale deployments of enterprise-specific software. By "business functions" I meant something that a business user would need from an advanced smartphone - i.e. full Exchange support (and you need multiple accounts in some professions, i.e. consulting, where you can get an account from a client), and Office (which isn't about viewing or editing so much as with ability to transfer files to and from the device). The more esoteric specific enterprise functionality would require 100% legitimate use, and I doubt that J&J's of this world would buy iPhones in bulk to jailbreak them all.

Sorry I can't contribute much because I only have experience with non-jailbroken iPhone, and it's been horrendous - no Tasks support, which I could live with, but the file handling problems are killing it.
[General Topics] eaglesteve:
In the past, jailbreak was more complicated. Since Geohot's release of Blackra1n, it was extremely simple.

1) Download blackra1n.exe from www.blackra1n.com

2) Connect iPhone/iPod to PC.

3) Execute blackra1n.exe. Click on the displayed button. Wait for about 20 seconds, it's done.

I would like to understand the procedure for unrooting and compare these two procedures. Can someone post the steps please?

That's exactly what you can do with iPhone too. It will convert only if you want to use the default iPod player to play the video. Otherwise, there is no need to convert. See post 14 where I had played a video without conversion, either directly by clicking on the weblink, or downloading it first, then click on it.

Again, you could do the same with iPhone. Not very nice discussing that though.:p

Let me also tell you another secret. With jailbroken phone, you can play all the musics in iTune store free. Further more, it plays the music video version instead of the audio version of all songs there without buying them. Can't save them though. This would probably be one of the things that upsets the artist and Apple and why they try to stop jailbreaking.