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[Droid Incredible General] m1k3-:
Congratulations on not having the 3g issues like thousands of other people have had. Maybe it's because you're not a ****? Or maybe your N1 is magical? Or maybe you're just in denial about it?

At any rate, I don't believe your touchscreen issues were resolved with a kleenex. Many believe it's due to the actual controller in the phone. Maybe it could be fixed with software, maybe not. Either way nothing's been done about it to this point, so the issue still exists. But since we've established your N1 may be magical, you may not have these issues.

As far as an OFFICIAL SUPER DOPE FROYO RELEASE.

Hey, if you're naive enough to run a completely non-optimized stock ROM on your phone..... Have at it.

Again, your point was that we Incredible users would have to wait SEVERAL MONTHS for Froyo. We won't. Deal with it.
[Droid Incredible General] AndroidBruce:
In terms of a Development Community the Nexus is the way to go(CyanogenMod, need i say more?).

But as far as a 'features' comparison goes the Incredible wins.

Also as far as a reliable network outside of major metro areas Verizon owns T-Mobile.

When the Incredible has root user access and superuser permissions enabled there will be less that separates the two assuming Sense is able to be removed and native 2.2 is able to be installed on the Incredible.

As a Verizon customer who wants reliable coverage, I had to go with the Incredible. If we all wait for the 'next best phone' well we would never buy a phone b/c that happens monthly. Let's do out best to support the developers and not piss off the Nexus one developers too much because if we are nice and supportive maybe they will work to enable the features that the Nexus One has with root access to our Incredibles, cyanogenmod included.
[Droid Incredible General] mike105105:
Look, I really wish this didnt have to spiral into childish bull. The whole point was you were acting like an **** before, and then you continue to act like an ****. Just GROW UP!! My phone is not magical it is just the fact that NOT EVERYONE HAS THOSE ISSUES.

Do some damn reading, capacitive touchscreens can be affected by conductive buildup on the screen...like greasy fingerprints and sweat, so yeah I have CM installed and I keep my screen clean and I have not had the issue again. How can it be the controller when that same controller is used in many other devices.

And once again, just because many people do have 3g issues doesnt mean everyone does. I have a constant 3g connection and have no issues, no magic involved.

And your last ridiculously stupid comment about running stock froyo...what is wrong with people possibly wanting to stick to a stock OS...that was not the original argument, the original argument was who was going to get an official update first, not weather stock is better than custom.

The problem with your arguments is that you are using an all or nothing logic, if some people have an issue it means everyone has that issue...regardless of what they tell you. You just make some nonsensical statements about their phone being magical, and some weak attempts at witty put downs.

THE ONLY THING THAT WAS BEING ARGUED IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WAY YOU WERE ACTING.

TREAT PEOPLE WITH SOME RESPECT!

Mike
[Droid Incredible General] m1k3-:
So the person that started name-calling (you) is lamenting that the thread has spiraled into something childish. Oh, the irony.

Why haven't there been a rash of complaints about touchscreen inaccuracy on any other android phone (at least not to the extent of the problems with the N1)? Oh wait, I know! N1 users must have greasier fingers than the average users of other android phones, right?

Wipe the screen? That's your fix? Seriously? I've used touchscreen phones for about 5 years now:

2 treos, 2 iphones, 3 android phones.

The ONLY touchscreen I've ever had ANY issues with is my N1. To be fair, the treos obviously weren't capacative, but still.

My argument isn't an all or nothing argument. Heck, I never even said the Incredible 'totally pwns' the N1. My only point is that the N1 had way too many bugs when it was first released. My opinion is that for the cost of the phone, some of the parts are a bit questionable.

And again, when it comes to Froyo, don't roll up on what's probably the largest android custom rom development site bragging about how the Incredible isn't going to get an OFFICIAL Froyo update until way after the N1. Because the 99% of us that are here are using custom roms (yourself included) and we just don't give a ****. Again, deal with it.

Thepoint in saying what he did about Froyo was basically 'HAHA THE N1 IS GONNA HAVE FROYO AND ALL OF ITS DOPE FEATURES MONTHS BEFORE YOUR INCREDIBLE WILL'. Again, it's simply not true and we all know it.

In the end, it's just my opinion about a phone.
[Droid Incredible General] mike105105:
MY problem is you made a bunch of matter-of-fact statements, I said that is not so with my phone, then you go and start mocking me saying that my phone must be magical.

Ok so you have used touchscreen phones for years...I am an electronics technician and an embedded systems programmer...but go ahead and tell me, because you know better, that a dirty capacitive screen, along with a sensor gain turned up too high in software cant cause the exact issues. I mean a bunch of people admitted that the problem went away after they changed firmware.

As far as the N1 having too many bugs, didnt the incredible already get an OTA because of a few major bugs.

And once again your lack of logic shows....the froyo thing....I will say it again, it doesnt matter how many people come here for custom firmware, most does not equal all so stop saying that just because many of the people here use CF, that is all everyone here uses. The point is still valid, the N1 will probably get an OFFICIAL update first. That word I used, official, is a qualifier...that means the argument I am making is based on that point being true.
[Droid Incredible General] m1k3-:
Word. Your theory could hold water. However, I'm a Linux Sys Engineer going on about 10 years now, so I do know a thing or two about Linux. And what I know leads me to believe otherwise. From the stock ROM, to the several versions of CM, to a few versions of KingClick's Desire ROM, ALL of them exhibit the touchscreen issues on my phone. This is probably due to the fact that while each one might run slightly modified kernels, the module that handles the touchscreen support is the same in all of them, since it's ultimately built from the same sources. Maybe it's my specific phone, but I find that hard to believe given the scope of complaints I've read here and elsewhere on the Internet.

Indeed, sir. But as far as I know it was only to resolve an exchange support issue. I'll gladly deal with this issue to have a properly working touchscreen. Again, I never said or even implied the Incredible is perfect.

You're arguing with yourself on this one, dude.

My logic was quite lucid. My point was essentially that I believe 99% of the people who frequent these forums run custom ROMs on their handsets. Therefore other than using them for the purposes of building custom ROMs, no one really gives a rat's a** about 'official' ROMs, because 99% of the people here probably don't run them on their phone.

Furthermore, the 99% of us that do run custom ROMs will be running the Incredible's version of whatever Froyo ROMs are available.... Probably within a week or two of when they're available for the N1. We will not have to wait 'several months' as the other dude stated earlier.
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
I let my phone discharge fully till it turned itself off!

Charged it for 4 or 5 hours.

Now I used it to make 3 short calls (5mins each) and send 10 or so texts, and surf for about 5 minutes, use google sjy mpas for 5minutes, showcase some video to some friends 2mins, general messing 10mins altogether.

Phone is up 40hours now (since charge) and still at 80%. I am very impressed.

I put it to airplane mode between 12am and 7am though as I don't like to be woken by drunk friends texts at 2am etc. (it happens sometimes).

I think those of us (me included) who slated the battery life originally didn't relaise we were using the phone non-stop pretty much for the entire day, trying out all the features on it. I doubt the first week of use will be "typical use" for ANY user :)

Happy Days
[Desire General] NZtechfreak:
My battery on day one seems fine, 12.5 hours running so far, screen at 100%, everything on automatic syncing (and I mean everything, Weather, Twitter, FB, Gmail etc), continuous WiFi connection throughout, plenty of "first day" playing around and still sitting at something like 20%. With a few more charges and more typical use will last a day just fine, which is all I ask, since I always charge my phones overnight...
[Desire General] A|ex:
When i got my phone i let it run out as it had half power, i overcharged it a few hours then let it die, then i do the same again but not overcharge it and let it die. Now i charge it when i need to but i seem to be getting 3 days worth with usage out of it and i use gps, web and have things on auto. Seems to be much better than when i first had it as the battery didnt even last a day but now its past 2 days.

I assume with newer firmwares etc this will improve
[Desire General] Raminder1992:
My battery life seems to get worse. I charged it fully ... it has been on for 6 hours and I have put 3g on for a while (1hour max and i barely have used it) and my battery is already 60% ... is that poor?? This is my second phone as well!!!
[Desire General] roscoe141:
I thought a full charge only required 3 hours..?
[Desire General] andybut85:
Anyone having surprisingly short battery life go into the phone keypad and dial in *#*#4636#*#*, when you key in that last * you will be taken to a testing menu (I've added a contact with this number and when in the dialer I can long press on the number as select edit number before calling to take me to this screen)

In this menu there are options to see phone and battery information as well as usage statistics for apps. The best battery option is "battery history" this shows you what apps are using your battery for various things such as network and processor usage. You can see this data for since you last rebooted your phone, unplugged it or for the whole life of the phone.

The first important part is "other usage", "running" shows you the percentage of the time your phone has been awake and doing stuff, "screen on" is the percentage of time your screen has been on, the difference between these two is when your phone has the screen is turned off but the phone is still working such as when syncing. Ideally you want these two percentages to be as close together as possible but it depends on how much syncing you have going on automatically in the background. If your running percentage is at or near 100% then an app is keeping your phone awake and using battery.

Next we have "partial awake use", this is what as been running in the background when you have the screen turned off and any apps that process or sync in the background would be listed here, the longer the bar, the bigger the drain on your battery. On my phone now the biggest bar by far is android system but it is still only small.

With "sensor usage" this is what has been using your sensors, games that use the sensors will feature heavily here.

"Gps usage" is again pretty self explanatory, whatever has been using gps.

"Network usage" was a real eye opener for me, I found out that an app was downloading megs of data all day and dwarfed all the other bars and was the reason for my bad battery life. Here the blue part of the bar is download and the red part is upload.

And lastly "cpu usage" on mine these are all practically non-existent but if anything is using massive amounts of processing it will show up here.

I only found out about this the other day but it has helped my battery life substantially, I used to take it off charge in the morning and be down to around 60% by lunch time, now I'm at 98%. I did this by uninstalling any apps that used too much battery and that I didn't really use very much as well as the vampire apps that were running and syncing continuously in the background, I also reduced the frequency at which some of my services such as stocks, email and weather synced, and used it on a low brightness when possible.

This is my first android device and I can now happily use it without the fear of running out of battery before the days end
[Desire General] Ghisy:
Wow, thanks andybut85, that was a very informative post!
[Desire General] jannen:
If you download Spare Parts from the Market it gives you access to the same info - instead of 'dialing' to test mode.
[Desire General] myk202020:
My biggest is "Calendar" (54mins from Boot, compared to 1min for Andriod System!)

What Calendar could this be? Im syncing from Google Calendar, so will it be that? If so, wouldnt my email syncing show up as constantly on too?

Or could it be some other App that is making it run constantly?

Any help gratefully received.
[Desire General] andybut85:
Have a look for "Total in all time" with mine the calendar is roughly half that of android system, it could be that recently your calendar has had to sync for a long time, this could be a one off or if it's still high for the total time it could be a deeper problem. You could also try rebooting and seeing if it occurs again.
[Desire General] DeWoert:
I'm still having problems with battery drain.

My Desire will not last a day :(

Installed Juiceplotter to find out when and why my battery drops so fast.

See attached image.

The battery drains very fast when i USE the phone, so when the screen is on. (20% in one hour)

I have two push email account activated, one with the HTC Exchange, and one with TouchDown.

But that doesn't explain the drops when phone is active.

Anyone else having this kind of batterydrain ?
[Desire General] _Dejan_:
I have positive "story" about battery too. Im on second charging. Saturday at 1:00 Im unplug it from charger and now 34h later Im on 7/10 battery.

Im make few calls(cca. 10 calls long 1-3min), few times(cca. 3-5x) check emails accounts(4 pop3 email accountes), quick test sygic navigation, little search on market(install calendar widget and some other app), and play few levels of Teeter...

3G is turned ON

GPS, WIFI is turned OFF

Also automatic sync is for most things disabled or setup to sync 1x per day...
[Desire General] kefje27:
Hmm Can't say I'm impressed by my battery life... it dropped 20% overnight..

I''ll keep an eye out on what's running and see if i can fine tune, but turning things off seems to be a bit pointless as it is made for use not just sit on a desk being pretty.

regards

Kef
[Desire General] micks_address:
i got great battery life at home over the weekend connected to my wi-fi network.. i have a feeling its the crappy edge reception in my office thats eating into battery life during the week..
[Desire General] mcgon1979:
yep, that sounds highly plausible. Bad or weak connections to the network (especially mobile internet connections) will really drain a battery as the phone needs to use more power to maintain adequate connection strength.

you can check your signal strength in the "settings / network strength" section. I notice in good 3G areas my connection is -95dBm or higher. At work (which is in some sort of black spot in Dublin) I only get EDGE connection and my signal strength is about -80 to -85dBm. I bet this makes a big difference to battery life, especially if I try browsing or data connection.
[Desire General] micks_address:
my signal strength at work is -91 dbm...

i'm guessing bigger numbers are worse?
[Desire General] kinkade:
spare parts showed me that "media" was using the network a lot, bowever i cant work out what this corresponds to, it says DRM protected content storage, download manager and media storage. shows as having downloaded several megs

i use spotify for music, anyone any ides what these could be?

thanks
[Desire General] micks_address:
only guess but i'd say its spotify.. i have used servcies like that in the past on my pc.. and they sometimes have a lot of downloading going on that you dont even ask for!... worth checking out..
[Desire General] kinkade:
yes it could be, but spotify also comes up as a separate user of resources and i tested it since unplugging when spotify wasnt running and "media" still comes up as the biggest user.

makes me think that its not spotify
[Desire General] patp:
20%/h is what I get when the screen is on.

I'm wondering if it's the GMail app that drains it, anyone know if that uses push or is it like an old fashioned client. I'm going to try using the Mail app and the Google exchange server instead of GMail.
[Desire General] gens6200:
I'm getting the same thing. Calendar is by far the biggest (59 mins from boot compared to 2 for Android system in partial wakelock).

I tried deleting an exchange account (work mail & calendar), so it now only syncs with Google.

Edit: But it didn't change anything..

Also please see this thread:

h ttp :// xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=666404
[Desire General] TurkzZ:
on Network usage , sky news app is the highest with the bar pretty much blue form 1 side to another, 2nd is media which is 3/4 blue and mail 1/2,

should i uninstall the sky app? its not on the home sceens and i dnt use it all that much,

also wifi is 99.9%, on other usage, is this normall?
[Desire General] kinkade:
my media is very high too, what do you thonk it is?
[Desire General] MasDroid:
Most likely programs associated with music and videos.
[Desire General] jonneymendoza:
My caldender seems to eat up alot of crap as well. How do i turn it off/disable it?
[Desire General] jonneymendoza:
My biggest one is also calender. how comes?
[Desire General] Sir Diddymus:
Well, I'm also quite baffled about the network usage of "Media". I had this, even though I did not have any music on my device. Well, some photos (including the ones that come with the device), but why (and moreover: what) should it want to download? Still trying to find out if this only happens over WiFi, or over 3G as well.

I hate it, if some programs do transfer data in the background and I don't know from where or what. We desperately need root access so we can do a netstat... ;)
[Desire General] kinkade:
so i have had high media usage and now my calendar has been playing up and keeping the device awake, seems to be associated with the google widget, going to test now and see how it does with no widget and then with the htc widget.

would really love to know what media correponds to.
[Desire General] andybut85:
media involves the download manager, so any app you've downloaded from the market or any file saved from the internet will use this.
[Desire General] Sir Diddymus:
hm... but that doesn't really make sense, as I have a separate indicator for the market. Furthermore I've disabled automatic updates of the OS...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] digital_elysium:
This feels like something which should be already built into the integrated Facebook app but it isn't. tried a few 3rd party apps like BBF Upload but the are all a bit rubbish. Videos too large to email via Googlemail. Only option remaining is to sideload to a PC and upload from there. Surely an easier way. Anyone got this working on the stock ROM?

Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] BrotherG:
I was having the same issue the other day. I also noticed the FB iphone app has the chat option. Why does the android version lack these essential features?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] ssj4vegita2002:
Not the perfect solution, but if you grab the new AIM beta on your desktop and enable FB Chat, and then install the AIM app from the market, you can use FB chat through aim on your phone. It actually works perfectly, been using it for about a month now.

And yea, I remember FBook [i think] having a video upload feature that actually worked, but I like the native FB app for everything else so much more.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] james1123:
is it possible to make a lock screen in wad2. :confused:

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile] saurabh88:
i have heard lots of about mortscripts use,,

but plz can someone elaborate how??

like how can i add new taskbar icons??

how to create flder?

and finally where the hell to put it??:confused::confused:

sorry..

if someone already know then plz give the link..:confused::confused:
[Windows Mobile] cruiserrr:
hi, mortscript is a scripting language

you can build a file with extension .mscr and when you double click it instructions will be executed. you can do anything with mortscript: write/read to registry/files, run programs, send commands to the operating systems, send events to the queue...

mortscript is a simple language so you can be up and running in little time. there is no GUI so it is a language very descriptive.

the program can be downloaded at the author's page. There is a complete and concise pdf manual.

in xda there is are two reference threads: mortscript examples acumulation and mortscript source compendium.

rather than ask for that or that code, learn by doing...the machine will do what you want to.
[Windows Mobile] saurabh88:
can i cook them??

Like wher i have to put them to execute???ext folder??shared folder or in folder with mname zzzz
[Windows Mobile] Farmer Ted:
Here's a mortscript package. Just put it in your EXT directory. As for the scripts themselves, do whatever you want. I use them during customization (unzipping; creating my start menu..), so you need to put the commands into an add2config.txt file. I also have a few that I use for backing up/restoring files, or exporting reg keys. I just have links to them in my start menu.
[Windows Mobile] cruiserrr:
you can cook both the app (as says previous post) and the scripts you create or reuse. you can use scripts that build (or copy) the shortcuts at boot time or do anything you want. this is not a quick shot, I recommend you take some reading on mortscript, there is a lot here at xda.
[Windows Mobile] saurabh88:
thank u thank u all of u..:eek::eek::D:D:cool::cool:
[Windows Mobile] RoryB:
There is a WIKI with some examples too. See my Sig
[Windows Mobile] cruiserrr:
and RoryB is another mortscript WIKI himself !!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] nickislauw:
hi.

Ive got manila 2.5 the latest donsalari rom. (superlite)

but where can i see if i got .1922 or 2012 1?

TNX!

NICK
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] thecrazyman64:
Don doesn`t have a 2012 version till now.:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] nickislauw:
:( sadly,

when does it come out you think??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] thecrazyman64:
He made one a few days ago but there were some problems with it, didn`t boot so he removed it and now we all are waiting.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] nickislauw:
damned because i want this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6128206#post6128206

but it doesnt seem to work with no rom:(

i need a rom that can do transparant bars etc..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] thecrazyman64:
Just...wait a few days. I think that in 1-2 days it will be ready. I see that Don doesn`t have much time after work.

Good luck!:)
[HD2 General] jasecloud4:
Has anyone tried one of the newer Panasonic Class 10 cards? I have a 16gb class 6 card in the phone that is wicked fast but I'm always up for new game if the extra speed is noticeable enough.

~Jasecloud4
[Desire Accessories] albert_htc:
as per subject can any one suggest a decent case / pouch for a desire + a flexiskin ?

Thank :)
[Desire Accessories] vdude_1:
Have a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=653586
[Desire Accessories] albert_htc:
Thanks. I have read through that thread and the MOFI Pouch seems to be a good options, but I can't find anywhere selling it !!

Any ideas ?
[Desire Accessories] str355:
I'm using a nexus rubber skin, the phone still fits in the large krussel Luna case. its quite tight though, it only sticks out the top a few mm.