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[Desire General] Aitese:
Yes, it seems you can if you want to (thank the guy, he's reading!)

Insofar as the voice search is concerned, stock Desires don't have that feature, but I have the voice search apps installed but haven't tried the "Navigate to" command yet (don't want to look insane in front of my colleagues)

[EDIT]

Well, I just tried it and it DOES work. You'll need to enable the voice search function on your phone...there are topics about it all around.
[Desire General] Brut.all:
I'm not sure what are you asking. I thought Car Home is installable on any device and it works with original Maps. Maybe I don't know something, I don't know much about newer devices, Car Home and such :-)
[Desire General] Aitese:
Searched for it in the Market and it's not there. Is there some other place to get the apk?
[Desire General] cassio:
ok, maybe it's just me, but i don't navigation in 4.1.1. i've restarted and everything. and yeah i'm in uk.
[Desire General] Brut.all:
I guess somewhere in this forum. It isn't in the Market, but people pulled it from their devices. I installed it someday for testing purposes and it worked fine (G1, latest CM).
[Desire General] EddyOS:
it is on the market, searched for 'Google Inc' and it came up
[Desire General] Brut.all:
What region of UK? Big city or a village? Maybe navi isn't supported everywhere - we don't know until Google will announce it officially.
[Desire General] Joshseadog:
Thanks for that and Thank You Mr Brut for all your work:)
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
To the OP: You should send an email to BBC News, they haven't picked up on it yet.
[Desire General] aljwatson69:
Fantastic! Up and running on my T-Mobile Desire. Also installed voice to text and the HTC IME keyboard. Both great additions.
[Desire General] SkiBum1942:
Sadly they haven't enabled it in Canada yet.
[Desire General] rossonza:
I just searched Maps in the market and it said "Update available", checked the update logs and noticed navigation so updated... and now working great.

Using Firmware 2.1-update1

CyanogenMod-5.

just worried about the whole 3g usage.. im on fair usage of 3gb but if i used it often would i just not destroy my limit? surely it caches to 3g then uses gps for further tracking? im not too fussed about the visual side of things just want directions that are accurate that wont exceed my contract limitations.

Streetview with navigation is very cool :D
[Desire General] macacomachec:
Could someone please post the apk?

Another req could you se what version the apk is looking in setting under manage applications?

Gratitude!
[Desire General] Aitese:
The apk for what?
[Desire General] ephumuris:
I have navigation now but it's still version 4.1.1 which i've had for over a week at least.
[Desire General] miles_t:
Does it give voice turn instructions?
[Desire General] macacomachec:
@Aitese

the apk of google maps,i was curious if it is a different version,instead of the one we have in italy.

Or if you can read the version of it under settings/application/manage applications/Maps..

Mine is 4156,what about yours?

Thank you!

EDIT:

Ephimurus thank you for the information....still waiting for navigation in our poor country!LOL
[Desire General] neowlchaz:
Woke up this morning to the Google Maps update, worked out how to use the navigation services fairly quickly, and Voice works with it too!

Chuffed to bits.

Looks like the GPS companies will have to up their game if they're gonna get anywhere in the world of Android!
[Desire General] blackfox888:
google navigation working on my google map, its version 4.1.1(#4156). I'm also using Nav Launcher app for quick access to google navigation.
[Desire General] rovex:
Huh, the BBC wont be that interested, its not Apple, so they wont care. Rory Cetland-Jones the 'tech' correspondent is so obsessed with Apple its unreal. In his Windows 7 review he said it seemed ok, but hadnt used windows for years so it all seemed rather strange. What sort of 'tech' correspondent is that?? He also has an iPhone welded to him at all times. :mad:
[Desire General] Anon87:
they probably get em for "free".
[Desire General] mojavaid36:
I just went outside and tested (as my reception in the office is p1$$ poor) and it works a charm!

Love it.
[Desire General] choccy31:
Working all ok for me :-D
[Desire General] Joshseadog:
Yes working fine on my Desire, tested on a short driving trip of around 20 miles, worked great: map view, sat view and street view. No lags was getting continous H reception. Also accepted voice search. Brilliant, just have to watch the data allowance now on T Mobile. Google even had a good stab at pronouncing some difficult Welsh street names, coped better than some TV presenters. :)
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
It really wasn't there at first (when I was saying it wasn't) but after a while it "appeared" which is strange.
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
They would do an article on it, more because it's about SatNav as opposed to Android itself.

I do agree with you on Rory Jones though, he even stood up at the nexus conference and asked "How is this going to be able to compete with the iPhone?". Everything he does is either iPhone related or a comparison to the iPhone.
[Desire General] firedup:
AMAZING. Thanks again to Brut. Who knows. Perhaps his developmen tencouraged them to release this sooner??!!

Hitting the voice search button then saying ' navigate xxxxxxx' is well cool. Another nail in the iPhone coffin!
[Desire General] andersh:
Not working here in Norway.

Brut maps work ok though :)
[Desire General] Brut.all:
Ok, they finally announced it:

http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2010/04/explore-uk-and-ireland-with-google-maps.html

UK and Ireland :-)
[Desire General] EroThraX:
Is it actually possible to use car home? Or is it specific to certain Android devices, if it is then that's a poor screenshot choice. =\
[Desire General] firedup:
It should be available as an apk download. havent found it yet - anyone on here got it?

Still, I repeat this is WELL COOL!:D:D
[Desire General] s4vva:
Nice tip about Nav Launcher! Thanks.
[Desire General] midamsax:
Just tried it, but not sure if it's working right ... there's no sound instructing on any of the turns? Is that the correct behaviour?
[Desire General] FBKins:
Just used it on a 30mile round trip. The voice commands are a bit repetetive and the routing choice perhaps isn't 100% perfect but this thing is great!!

Instructions are clear, especially if through bluetooth to a headset/in car device; the screen is just fantastic - so vivid and clear to look at; following a map based on the satellite layer is great fun :)

I think I need an in car holder and a proper charger now - the Parrot USB socket charged it but I was still losing overall battery charge through the journey!!

Very happy.
[Desire General] Fon22:
Guys, you dont need navlauncher.

Just hold down the magnifying glass, and then say navigate, followed by where you want to go.

You can even just say navigate hospital (as an example) and it will google search your local hospitals, McDonald's , etc

Fon22
[Desire General] landwomble:
or install the car dock app for the nexus one. gives you one screen with fat-finger compatible voice search/nav/call buttons.
[Desire General] hanschke:
anyone can leak the apk of the google beta please :confused:
[Desire General] al89nut:
Doesn't work for me. Which mag glass, screen or button? Voice app needs to be installeD?
[Desire General] stuffyouguys:
can anyone state how much data is downloaded for a 10 mile trip? my concern is the data usage as i only have 500mb a month. i often also go down to london which is around 270 miles, how much data will that use? cheers
[Desire General] stuffyouguys:
don't worry, i found the answer by digging on the internet. 8 miles uses 1mb of data. so on the rare occasion i use a satnav my 500mb should be ok. cheers away.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] joe.kerwin:
Does this exist? Is it possible? Seems it's easy to find for any eclair rom but not for donut roms. JW, Ive searched around for it many times and finally figured i'd just ask. Thanks.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] joe.kerwin:
came really close, but it turned out orange? But this is the first time I found a morph that was even accepted to alter status bar (besides black/white/buff)
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] toeshot:
are you talking about the pull down notification? or the actual status bar?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] low-dogg:
Hi there all you dev's:)

I was wondering if it was possible to change the manila font color?

When you use a background of your choice (in my case with HDwall), sometimes the white and grey text can't be read because of the color of the background..

I have searched all i can but can't even find a single post about this subject??

Can anybody help me?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] drmabused:
i'm looking for the same thing cause i wanna change my wallpaper to white, n with white fonts its not very usable ^^
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dio62000:
+1 For me too please :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rickyjune:
guys this has been around for every, there is so request but sadly not one answer
[General Questions and Answers] tobikage:
how to change WM6.5 TASKBAR ok and X
[General Questions and Answers] longice:
Start reading here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=437307

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=503647

http://winmo.techparaiso.com/how-to-create-custom-taskbar-icons/
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Tim4:
Hi all. Today i have disassemled my Diamond2 (I have looking for reason why it have 288mb of RAM)

And found interesting thing:

Diamond2 have only 1module of memory, it's Samsung (I have recorded markers on the chip but have lost the papper.. ****)

i have COMPLETELY disassemled the phone, i found only ONE module of ram (For example my previous phone had two pieces)

So i think HTC did this:

They merged nonvolatile slow 1024mb module for:

1)512mb for internal storage

2)288mb for RAM

3)Anoter 224mb has been hidden

Its explains how HTC got 288mb for RAM, also explains why Diamond2 3(!)times slower than SE X1 in memory bandwith benchmark (nonvolatile memory not so fast as traditional RAM module).

So i think its possible to get more RAM by editing rom's memory mapping. Actually i can't do it by myself, but is there someone who can do it? I can test "New gen roms" in my spare time

P.S. Eventually we can just pump some MB from Storage (Are you need so much?) to RAM (You definitely need it, especially when use rom with Manila2.5:))

P.P.S. Why i think its 1024mb module? Because i never ever seen memory chips like 768mb
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] linshilinshi:
good idea.

sadly that I don't know any thing about technics.

looking forward that some guys will make it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] federaly:
BUMP.

I would love to see this come about!:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Tim4:
The module is:

SAMSUNG 967 KBY00N00HM-A448 GML215A7.

Checked with google, didnt find how large it are, but its really nonvolatile memory, also very cheap :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] IRREAL:
Interesting

+1
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kravguy:
I always wondered about this. Would be nice if someone could pull this off. Mine starts up with only about 70mb free (uggggh) and slowly but surely goes down to around 58 where it finally seems to stable out at.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] sd65:
Interressed too !
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] keel:
that's quite some smarts digging this up!

will keep checking here for the holy grail of more memory...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] madsurfer1:
I only wish that its possible to do it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] CommanderDuplex:
we all are much interessted , but search the developer... i dont know it if works, I mean the topaz is already 1year old , i can't believe that nobody have try this already...

but i hope =D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] madsurfer1:
maybe a radio update will do the trick, like it did on the HD2
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jzalesak:
Possible beginning of a solution

If it is a 1024MB chip then maybe they simply laser cut a connection somewhere giving access to the rest of the available memory.... Like AMD did on the old Athlon chips to lock the multiplier.

If this is the case then all that's needed is a graphite pencil and the location of the cut connection and we're in business!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] crisagatie:
except that AMD CPU was on a large peace of PCB, and the connection was easily in sight, while here we're talking about a possible 65 nm technology memory chip completely encapsulated. good luck using a pencil on that. sorry I'm such a show stopper, but it's gotta be somewhere else.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Tim4:
This is a memory module, not an old athlon CPU :)

Have found a little guide from Loox device:

1) Patch nk.exe ("ulRAMEnd" must read value from ROMHDR, not an constant)

2) Patch nk.exe (Dont let "IPM-functions" in nk.exe rewrite registers in memory controller and activte additional RAM partitions.

3) Change "ulRAMEnd" in ROMHDR, XIP partitions.

4) Edit "OEMAddressTable" in nk.exe.

Just realized, we can try to change "MainMemoryEndAddress" in nk.exe (S000 file). It works for Kaiser/Polaris/Niki, gains 16mb of RAM
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shayan.k:
This is Great!!! If there is a possible way to do this then our TD2's will run much better and faster:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] madman_cro:
and then if only we can overclock damn processor...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Tim4:
Have checked situation about HD2 hidden ram and found that it actually same with D2 - HD2 also have only one memory module, it doesnt have real RAM memory too.

So it was possible to resize RAM partition by flashing new rom and radio(?).

So i 100% sure it can be done on topaz.

(By the way i think Diamond, TP and Rhodium affected too cause they all got very slow RAM with strange size)

I dont have PC so i cant do it by myself :(

So our hope is cookers only, or someone like Olinex :(

P.S. Can someone send me nk.exe from HD2 original and new (With unlocked RAM) roms?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] DaBountyHunter:
Interesting find! I'm following this with excitement hopefully someone can do something about this... but then thinking about it isn't some of this extra RAM saved for hard resetting by the bootloader?? Getting rid of this will stop that or am I confusing this with the ROM space?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
You should also post this in the HD2 ROM Development thread, hopefully someone will send you the files.

Also, this thread is getting more and more interesting! I hope you can come up with something!

Best regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Tim4:
Nope, hard-reset will just delete all files on main storage that doesnt have "ROM" marker. Its the only thing it does and doesnt requires extra ram. (I think so, may be i wrong :D)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] warhawk007:
I guess its not exactly non-volatile memory......its Samsung's "OneNAND" Fusion memory chip....they combine different types of memory onto one chip...

"Combination between types of memory such as DRAM and Flash and non-memory such as logic and Software on a single chip!"
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] madsurfer1:
Well, any further developments on this?

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] CommanderDuplex:
any news ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] bfdream:
Do all HTC devices have this one flash memory configuration? I want to DRAM module, but not flash one.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Tim4:
Well im not an developer, so a cant do anything.

All qualcomm based devices from HTC except polaris, nike, vogue, kaiser

Actually as WarHawk said, it's a mcr memory, ram and storage in one single chip. I dont know what capacity it have, but seems like 256ram+32ram(?)+512rom.

Check it out:

SE Xperia x1 - 256ram

Acer Neotouch - 256mb ram

Toshiba TG01 - 256mb ram

HTC Qilin - 256mb ram

Samsung Omnia2 - 256mb ram

They all got GPS, BT, WVGA screen resolution, Video accelerator etc but all have only 256mb of ram.

But i still have no idea why Topaz and rhodium have 288mb of ram, how htc did it, and why.

P.S. Someone can say that topaz and rhodium got extra ram because they shipped with HTC Sense... but HTC Qilin have it too

P.P.S. May be HTC just fooled us, and topaz have only 256mb of ram. Extra 32mb can be just a trick to make Topaz/rhodium more attractive for buying :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Kubino:
Acer neotouch S200 with 256MB RAM has in System information this:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gurtejgurtej:
bump...

Does anyone have any further information on this?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mweirauch:
The assumptions made in the first thread are quite adventurous.

The Topaz only has 288MB RAM. Nothing more, nothing less.

That is 32MB of SMI memory soldered into the SoC (the MSM720xA) which is likely of fast SRAM nature. Then 2x128MB (external) EBI memory of slower SDRAM nature. On newer Topaz (as we've seen in the linux-msm kernel adventures) there can also be just 1x256MB EBI memory bank.

The 32MB bank is used entirely by the system and parts of the upper megabyte range of the first 128MB EBI memory as well. (Radio firmware, framebuffer memory, ...) The second bank is - as known until now - unused by the system and is available as RAM entirely.

Regarding memory setup: Every OEM is supposed to provide an OEMAddressTable definition for ARM based devices which is then used to initialize the processors MMU. This address table provides mappings between WinCEs virtual address range and the physical (memory) addresses. It might be possible to tweak that table when cooking the rom, but it's also very likely that malfunctions can appear by doing so. Really not worth the effort as the engineers have likely tuned it to the best already and you could gain perhaps - if possible at all - just some MB.

Let's be happy that we have the amount of memory that we have. ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pepinos:
Well...

Yea, that is the FLASH memory. In case you want more memory for running application, you need upgrade the RAM. The FLASH memory is usually used for OS to keep data permanently, so you cant use it as you meant.

Actually there may be possibility how to upgrade RAM memory, but it need some investigation if the CPU is ready for it and the question is whether WM OS allow to work with it.

Kick my back if I'm wrong :D
[General Questions and Answers] axel007:
I use Windows Mobile 6.1 with Pocket Outlook to access my POP3 account. Until some time last year, I was able to send and receive. Then, for reasons unknown I could no longer send, maybe starting in autumn or winter 2009. The error message says (I translate from Japanese): "Could not send one or more messages. Verify that your network is functioning and that your account settings are correct, then try again."

I finally got around to calling Softbank and they suggested that I look at the port number. Well, the Pocket Outlook interface doesn't actually have an option for port numbers but I suppose that "domainname.com:587" should work. 587 is the port number that my regular Outlook is set to. I tried that on Pocket Outlook now but it doesn’t change anything... Same error message again.

The Softbank guys just keep tellng me it's not their problem, I should change the settings. So... what do I do next?
[General Questions and Answers] Bulldog:
I don’t think you can change the port number for pocket outlook. flexmail will give you the option. Which email provider are you using?

However Softbank has definitely block the ports and you might need proxy settings. therefore roll the ball back ask them to set it up for you
[General Questions and Answers] axel007:
Bulldog, thanks. You can imagine that Softbank customer support isn't supportive at all. My email provider is Verio. In fact, this is company email (my own company) and others in our company have no trouble with this. They have Softbank phones, use the same settings that I use, use the same SMTP server and have no issues. You can definitely specify the port number as I described. "domainname.com:587" is definitely OK but this doesn't solve the issue. I called my company's IT support guy and he gave me access to his personal SMTP server. Again, I cannot send. He thinks that my specific phone or email account for some reason must be blocked by Softbank....
[General Questions and Answers] Bulldog:
Alex,

I have forgotten to ask...are you using the original ROM or cooked one

Besides Have you ever test your device with another POP email account and settings (i.e like Gmail)?
[General Questions and Answers] axel007:
Still uncooked. ANd now I am going to do exactly what you suggest: do a lot of testing.

1) Same POP3 account on a different Softbank phone / SIM that I will borrow from a colleague

2) On a different Softbank phone with my own SIM

3) With somebody else's SIM on my own phone

And, as you suggest,

4) Different, unrelated POP account on my phone/SIM

Any other combinations you can think of?
[General Questions and Answers] Bulldog:
Hello Axel,

The Test procedures (1-4) you thinking of are solid. They should give the answers.

Cheers mate
[General Questions and Answers] axel007:
Ha! I haven't gotten my hands on one of my colleagues' phones yet but I dug out my old X01HT, put in my SIM card, fired it up and tried sending from there. And guess what: no problem, with the same settings I have always used (don't need to specify any port)!!! So what does this mean? My guess is that something with my X05HT is wrong. It's not Softbank per se and it isn't Verio either. So it's got to be the device... Concur?
[General Questions and Answers] Bulldog:
Yes, Now I would I also think it is the device. If you haven’t yet delete the Pocket Outlook Account and re-setup again, do that first. If that did not help then I am afraid you would need to make hard reset after backing up all your user data.
[General Questions and Answers] axel007:
Hard resert did it

Hello Bulldog, one thing I did not think of was to perform a hard reset. The lady at the Softbank shoi did that today as part of their routine to get phones ready for repair. When she did that I figured might as well try once more and blow me down, that did it. We still don't know why it didn't work before the reset but at least it now works!

Thanks again for your help!
[HD2 General] loluog:
Hey guys i'm kinda new to this so cut me some slack.

I just bought my HD2 today and i love it but i'm having a problem with the email. It's not getting to my phone for a while and on my AOL i'm not getting it at all. My Hotmail is temperamental i get them quick sometimes and not for like 30 minutes other times. My yahoo i receive fairly quickly and my g mail is perfect. Any ideas on what i can do to help make them all about the same and get them fairly quickly?
[HD2 General] jamieeeee:
its becouse the free hotmail accounts dont support push mail :( facing that same issue myself.. :(
[HD2 General] loluog:
Well what's funny is as of today my hot mail is working fine i get my emails pretty quick but my yahoo is the one being temperamental i get it like 15 minutes later or i have to manualy send/receive it.
[HD2 General] conantroutman:
Set up your hotmail via the windows live app, it should come already installed, if not get it from the marketplace, its more reliable that way.
[HD2 General] loluog:
hey ok I figured it out but now im having problems with my remote desktop simply how do does it work
[HD2 General] GLO:
Hi,

I want to know if there is any way to add some data to the Lock/Standby screen?

Currently it displays the closk and the next appointment.

I am hoping for it to also display the current data usage and speed from SPB Wireless Monitor.

As i have noticed that if my push email is downloading content, then the device is less responsive and occassionally hangs!