yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Quis89:
So heres my question...

What are the benefits of ext4? And in the same thought...what are the hazards?

Another question...I'm running the newest Fresh ROM...in what ways would I benefit from flashing this? I notice there are a few bugs. The biggest is the camera not working.

Is the biggest advantage going to be the speed of this ROM? And if so...how much more noticable is it compared to the previous Fresh ROM (Which I feel is pretty damn fast)?

I just want to know what I'm gaining before I try this out.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
There is a link to ext4 in the very first post. And same hazards of using ext 3.. They all use your sdcard.

Yes its going to be speed. And read past post, others have asked about the speed increase. According to benchmarks, its a 40- 45% increase.

All your questions have been answered already.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Quis89:
Apparently you didnt read all of my questions...

My first question was "What are the benefits of ext4?"

If you read the link posted on ext4...you would notice that the very first paragraph states, "It was born as a series of backward compatible extensions to remove 64-bit storage limits and add other performance improvements to ext3.[1] However, other Linux kernel developers opposed accepting extensions to ext3 for stability reasons,[2] and proposed to fork the source code of ext3, rename it as ext4, and do all the development there, without affecting the current ext3 users. "

In short...it appears that ext4 isnt something that is agreed upon by all developers. But the ones responsible for this ROM we are discussing felt they should add it. I would assume they have a reason for doing so...and I was interested in that reason for my own personal knowledge.

My next question was, "Is the biggest advantage going to be the speed of this ROM?"

Which you answered with a short and sweet, "Yes"...thank you.

I've noticed a certain sensitivity amongst some members of this forum. Its kind of disheartening since this should be a place where the knowledgable and not-so-knowledgable meet and expand minds. Yet much time is spent bringing others down. Many of you would save keystrokes if rather than typing paragraphs yelling for people to read...they would simply answer simple quick questions.

All of my questions werent answered in this thread. But I'll go through the 20 pages again just to be sure. I have the time to do that, ya'know...

I apologize for any inconvienence I may have caused...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
I didnt really mean it in a mean way.

If you read any post, im usually very helpful, specially people that are just rooting for the first time. I remember being in there place.

But the questions are almost asked daily, either here or on the first oc thread when they announced it.

But the benefits of ext4 are stated in that page. Its up to you if you wanted to use it. The main reason the developer included it was just to simply have the option if you wanted it.

The benefits of this rom are only the speed increase. This rom is 2.0d with an older kernel, only for the purpose of adding the OC'ing do to have the source to the kernel and not the newest .29.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Quis89:
Thank you.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] SupahDave:
Bump... cuz I'm sick of searching for this thread to see if the update has arrived! :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Re: [ROM-DEV] Fresh Toast v1 | Overclock + EXT4 + Compcache + Ramzswap

I subscribed to the thread, can check it in less then 10sec using my phone.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] SupahDave:
I did, too, but when I'm home I'd rather use my computer than my phone esp. if I'm already using my computer...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
thanx for the bump guys. at the least i know u guys are still interested :p anyhow testing is coming to an end. i know i ws suppose to release days ago bt i wasnt comfortable doing so. also i wanted to test the limits and make sure i could easily return to normal battery life. so its been trial and error. i have the scaling part down but was just making sure i had it all right. that includes having others with greater know how double check my work, suggest changes, and testing those changes. its a pain and has had me flashing kernels like crazy. i think i released kernel #2 or 3 and now im on like kernel # 54 :eek: anyhow were working hard on it and also multitasking trying to add other useful things to the kernel and build. were shooting for this weekend if not sooner. i know u guys are are gonna be happy with it. :D

also id like to say to everyone overclocking. watch ur temps please. there are a few apps in the market for this. at the moment the only option u have to bring the temp down is either leave the phone alone and quit playing with it, or down clock to 480 till u get ur temp down. this is the main reason i ddnt release a full blown oc kernel with no option to scale it. to dangerous in my opinion. anyhow again like a hundred times before.... soon guys :p
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Thanks for keeping us updated. Helps alot. This has became my main rom, I can do without a camera. And its actually funny, you should see my set up for when my phone gets hot. I take the back off and set it on an extra fan i pulled from my computer (actually looks cool, cuz it had blue led lights all over it). But its usually not needed, only if im doing a bunch on it and keeping it awake for long periods. It actually helps, cools the battery and also blows air around the inside threw all the cracks and holes when the back is off.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] blumail:
My phone freezes sometimes with this room :(
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Mine only freezes after having my phone running for more then 24 hours without rebooting. Also I blame my enabled jit.

But the only thing i can think of is, when rebooting your phone, let it sit for about 5mins. It takes my phone personally awhile to load and get everything running full speed. And like toast said, watch you temp's. You might be pushing your phone to much when its running hot.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] blumail:
Is not a temperature issue in my case...it freezes when I rotate the phone most of the times...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Ill test it out. I almost never rotate my screen. I personally hate it sideways, unless watching a movie or youtube.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Negrito:
No jit here, and mine has been running strong over four days straight no reboot. I'm quite impressed, but then again toast and company always do top notch work.

Thank you gentlemen.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Yea thats why I blamed my jit files that froze me. lol Its very very rare that it happens but it will.

And to the guy that has freezing. The only thing i can think of is if you are using htc sense, and maybe a slow memory card with swap/app2sd. Or not using your memory card at all and might have low ram, internal memory.

Im guessing something is slowing your phone down somewhere. Maybe an app or something in the background.

Not That your using it. But just adding...

Iv also learned to never us Adfree in the market. All it does is take the adds out, but leaves the big space where the add should be, there. And it slows down phone like crazyyy.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Negrito:
I use AdFree, and my phone doesnt seem slow. I think I'll try tomorrow without it. Thanks for the tip.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] platinumrug:
Looks nice, I'll wait for more of a finished product, still running fresh 2.1 so it's all good.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Run something that you can compare the difference in. Like linpack. Its how i figured it out.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Negrito:
Meh, numbers mean nothing. I just go based on how my phone feels. :p
[Hero CDMA Android Development] blumail:
I'm using a class 6 A-data SDcard. I flashed over the new apps2sd and I have lot of free memory...not sure what to do...I do use sense...do u suggest to wipe?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
I really dont no what the issue could be. This rom is flips 2.0d with oc kernel. It should be giving any problems. But they do happen. I would try doing a nandroid back up, and backing up apps with titanium. So 1 you have a backup of whole rom, 2 if it does fix your problem you can put all your apps back, with there data.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Negrito:
Anyone's gps off? I usually get locks in my home down to the very room, but today I get with in a block outside. :confused:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Just used mine today when checking my mobiledefense.

It had my exact address and right on point.

And about the adfree, I just didnt like how it would leave the ad screen there, just not show them. My phone was actually faster with the ads just showing then it was for them to be blocked. Only benefit was not accidentally being able to click the ad.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Costa276:
MobileDefense seems like it's the poop. I had my last phone (Samsung Instinct) stolen and there wasn't a damn thing I could get anyone to do anything. At least with this it seems like I can do all the police work (oxymoron, I know) myself.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Roman G:
Ya checkout linpack!

Just some harmless competition:D:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
yea i saw.. there are nice.

Iv been wanting to clear up all my crap I have on my phone to run and get better benchmarks. Just havent had time.

And I have more updated ones in my sig also.

Lets see who can win when the new fresh toast comes out. ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tkirton:
Apps2SD 2.5 doesn't support EXT4. Apps2SD 2.6 will (I'm working on it as we speak).

Unfortunately, I'm having serious issues getting EXT4 to work at all. Toast and I came up with the same conclusion that our kernel source has EXT4DEV (and prerelease experimental EXT4) and it may be hit or miss.

I'm looking for an EXT4 module from one of the other HTC sources to see if I can compile it. Google is no help in this at all (at least not from what I can see.)

Patience...I'll come up with something.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Roman G:
Game on!

I hope Darch has a trick up his sleeve!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Rally187:
how do you enable JIT on this rom?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Costa276:
READ

everything first before you attempt ANY of it!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=659387

I will work if you follow it correctly
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Rally187:
Thanx Costa really would do that right now if i didn't have a freaking psych test Monday. and Jus10o you said that the OpenGL would make its run things worse? cause i just flashed it and i cant even get any LWP to show up at all? would appreciate any help
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Re: [ROM-DEV] Fresh Toast v1 | Overclock + EXT4 + Compcache + Ramzswap

Reflash your rom.. You dont have to flash anything at all for live wallpapers to work. That fix was only for the nexus live wallpaper. Just use the stock rom and any other wallpaper

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] Roman G:
Hey did you guys lose your secret sauce?:D:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] SupahDave:
Either something is F'd up with the sauce or Toast is just putting some extra love into it. I'm leaning toward the latter. I have a feeling the extra time being put into it is going to make an incredible difference...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Re: [ROM-DEV] Fresh Toast v1 | Overclock + EXT4 + Compcache + Ramzswap

Toast learns well from sprint and takes awhile to release his updates.

Im only joking. im just patiently waiting. Id still be happy if he didnt update

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] Negrito:
Agreed, I'm content with it now. Hoping he figured out the camera, but I know thats a long shot.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
I've been working on other goodies guys. Just trying to kill all the birds with one stone. Overclocking had issues in the release and they are now fixed. Ext4 had issues also and it is now fixed. Then I went to tweaking the kernel a little more. So yeah I'm wrapping things up and hope to get this out to everyone tomorrow. :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danknee:
:D Awesome, I can't wait!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] SupahDave:
Is there really this little interest in this rom that I found the thread all the way down on page four?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Re: [ROM-DEV] Fresh Toast v1 | Overclock + EXT4 + Compcache + Ramzswap

I think the people that are interested, are just patiently waiting. So we dont need to read anything on this thread until the updates released.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] jayjay7411:
I'm anxiously awaiting the update

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] SupahDave:
I agree but I would still think that there'd be plenty of discussion going on as to issues that people are seeing or tweaks that guys have mede to get it working faster (such as installing JIT...)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Re: [ROM-DEV] Fresh Toast v1 | Overclock + EXT4 + Compcache + Ramzswap

I think everyone jumped ship when darch came out with his rom cuz all the work was done for them. Like jit. And def not saying anything bad about darch. Just saying I think its why not so many ppl are here

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
the good part is the rom is so sweet and stable there are no real issues ;) anyhow its based off of freshhh 2.0d so really any fix or tweak for it wll work with this.

only real issues this rom have are kernel issues, which are now fixed. the new kernel i squiet impressive for sure. i did a lot of tweaking and put the last week into it. no only did the overclocking part of the kernel get overhauled and rewriten but also ive ported some real goodies to it. we hope to get it out by tonight. but we got lives too so dont get mad if its not. but i will say this... i thought overclocking alone was awesome enough. wait till u get a load of whats coming. i havent had my hero run this snappy and smooth since i got it. even down clocked to 528mhz its smooth. anyhow we havent forgot u guys :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jdlumley:
CANT WAIT!!!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] aggie6600:
I'm patiently waiting.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Sounds amazing
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Rally187:
HAHA its crazy how excited i get about this ****. :D im really content with fresh toast and now its gonna be even better you say?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] SupahDave:
Hey Toast, you need to fix your Paypal account link so that we can buy you some more coffees...

edit: NM I just tied the one in your sig and that one worked. The link that Flipz posted at the beginning of this thread is broken.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Killadawg7:
AAAAHHH!!!! I cant wait!!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
I kinda get a little excited every time i see this thread up top. I think there might be an update out. lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jAm-0:
Re: [ROM-DEV] Fresh Toast v1 | Overclock + EXT4 + Compcache + Ramzswap

What is this tingling sensation I feel in my pants?

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] mengy007:
oh my freaking gosh

such excitement in the air

getting goosebumps now
[Hero CDMA Android Development] imb951:
Anxiously awaiting this update as well. Still on Fresh 2.0d, and haven't tried Fresh Toast v1.

I'd like to buy the dev's a coffee if all is well with this updated release. :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Quis89:
Still running Fresh 2.0d but I'd really like to try this out. It sounds excellent. But I need my camera...:(
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
haha.. Im right there with you
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bigupurself7:
This may sound stupid, but I just flashed back to Fresh Toast and now when I receive text messages the phone does not vibrate. I checked the settings and it is checked, but still nothing. Could it have to do with the keyboard, before when I was using Fresh I was using the stock keyboard, but now im using the one that came with it. Anyway, this is just killing me, any ideas?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
:D.................................:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] imb951:
:D?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
dooo it..dooo it...SEGA!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
Because I wanna be the first to say it

OMFG.:eek:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Roman G:
So did ya bury my benchmarks below?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
Benchmarks mean little to me.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Roman G:
Little difficult to test your build then eh?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
heheh...HOLERRRRRR..flashing in progress
[Hero CDMA Android Development] gmelchert:
do you think i could flash this kernel over darchdroid? i like jit...

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
Let the kang begin :(
[Hero CDMA Android Development] KBizzle:
Gonna try again. Thanks Toast and Fresh.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dondadah88:
can't you post the Brain **** Scheduler in a separate flash???

i dont want to lose my camera...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] flipzmode:
It's built in to the kernel. So no. ;)

Edit: I mean yes, technically it could be done. But you would lose your camera and break tons of other things. Ha.

The benchmarks for this build are going to be roughly the same as the last build. However this one has full OC scaling and it does it more efficiently. Additionaly with BFS it reduces latency on the phone, but that latency is noticed in real world use of the phone. It's not reflected by benchmarks.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dondadah88:
i understand so regardless if you were to take it out and put it in your 2.0d the camera would still break???

i guess i will lose my camera for more performance. it's killing me though. not that i ever use it but just because i know something isn't working on my phone. lol.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Roman G:
Cool, thanks for the reply flipz!

I just love the **** out of this OC'ing stuff!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] looneylu:
my only question is... do I have to use a2sd if I partition my sd card to get oc working???? don't really care much for a2sd
[Hero CDMA Android Development] flipzmode:
To get OC working, no not at all. To get ramzswap working you will need to partition it with a swap. But if you don't add an ext partition then a2sd won't run.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] imb951:
Thank you!!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] looneylu:
thanks!!!! all i needed to know
[Hero CDMA Android Development] wjason:
Just flashed and I have to say WOW. The speed is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!! I would say OMFG but Toast already beat me to it:D.

Thanks for all the hard work.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dondadah88:
that's what i like to see. lol...

how is the keyboard???
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
Keyboard is awesome now because of Bfs
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mengy007:
SetCPU still says 528Mhz as Max for me even though it says 767MHz max in green in the top right. I first tried flashing over v1 then tried a full wipe and flashing, same thing. Any ideas?

Edit: NVM, I think it's because I didn't choose custom when first starting SetCPU.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] flipzmode:
Yea, that would be why.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Kcarpenter:
GOD I CAN'T WAIT FOR .29 SOURCE!!! OR A WORKING CAM IN .27!!!:p I wan this so bad I can taste it, but can't do without the camera. :(
[Hero CDMA Android Development] kmartburrito:
Great work guys!!

As always, thanks so much for your combined work efforts. You're making this community a greater place every day!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
can't seem to get live wallpapers to activate..i can preview 'em but they dont show, just remains on the current wallpaper. That normal?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
Yeah I would be able to do a lot more with .29 source. It took a lot of work to backport BFS from .31 to .27. That was just version 314. It took further modding to port version 316. It was all a pain and I had no clue as to if it would do us any good till i was finished. The first boot with BFS was a total shock. I couldn't believe how much improvement it made even at 528mhz. Once I began tweaking it I was further impressed. I'm still amazed. Also gaming has improved a bit. Those. Results may very depending on the type of scheduling the game developer has integrated into his app. BFS schedules the way we want and uses latency to create awesome real time improvements to Android.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
In rosie yes. Rosie lwp isn't in this Rom. U can use the rosie lwp update.zip for fresh 2.0d along with any other fresh mods in this Rom.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
o ok, thanks!! Lovin' it, great biz!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] srkmagnus:
Once camera is fixed I'll be all over this. It's a must for me being that I now have a two week old girl :) Must capture all the moments I can while she is still in the infant stages. Good work, guys.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dalvarez7:
Congratulations!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] imb951:
Loving this ROM so far! I'm not heavy on my camera usage, and if these latest official 2.1 release dates are true, I will only be without the use of the camera for another week or so!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ffolkes:
hmm. i hate to be an idiot, but can someone answer these?

1. is a class 4 sd card good for anything? that's all i have right now.

2. can this rom run properly with just a normally formatted sd card? it seems to be, but then again it locked after first boot for me..

thanks!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danknee:
1. yes, it even works fine with a2sd and swap if you want

2. yes. This rom always locks on first boot for me. After one reboot I am good to go.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danknee:
Eh, it is going to be awhile after releasing 2.1 before they release the source code.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] centran:
What is the problem with the camera?

I know it doesn't work but I am just wondering why?

I am guessing because .29 has a built module for the camera that breaks under .27
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Bielinsk:
I had it running, and starting setting up my apps, did a restart cause HMB 3d had a graphics glitch, now all I get is HTC Sense FCs.

Wiped dalvik, same issue.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] DJAscendance:
Re: [ROM-DEV] 04/27/10 | Fresh Toast v1.1 | BFS + Full Scaling Overclock + EXT4/a

What is causing this issue

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] xtkxhom3r:
hey why dont i have a option for ext4 on my recovery menu? my sd card already has ext3....
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dondadah88:
how do i move the cache back to the phone memory???
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jAm-0:
I think if we could build a kernel module from scratch we would be in business.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] imb951:
Bummer. Is it some kinda of legal fine print that says HTC doesn't have to release it immediately? :mad:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Julianmgn:
you need to update ur build in recovery by just rerooting it, one way to do it is to download the latest fresh kitchen (cause it has auto-root) and just reroot it that way. then u should have some new features and everything