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[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
heh i would if i could :P it's just that googling the F7N0A it's starts popping up in different search results but as i said they are all written in kanji so i have no clue at all if this is just jibberish or actually related to the screen. i've tried clicking through them but get no pictures giving away the content of the links
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Nevertheless F7N0A is still the partnumber of the LCD screen itself.

We've got to search for FQN0B1155391.

While shortening it to FQN0B, I came to a site which says it's the beginning of a partnumber: http://www.515ic.com/shortcut/FQN0.aspx

But that one looks like a ad bot... :(

Edith says:

Take a look downwards here:

http://www.alldatasheet.com/view.jsp?Searchword=FQN0
[XPERIA X10 General] shvyue:
The Chinese websites with the key word "F7N0A" in google search result are not related to the touch screen hardware. I've gone through most of these sites, and Chinese is my 1st language. I think the word or string "F7N0A" was used in a very popular forum/bbs application Discuz! for anti-copying. Hope this helps:)
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Hi Mate, could you please take a closer look at the sites dealing with: FQN0B or FQN0?
[XPERIA X10 General] shvyue:
The same no useful infomation. The website you showed with the link of "FQN0B" just show some repeated results from google. I've to go but if you need more help with Chinese just give me a shout.
[XPERIA X10 General] kimchi29:
is the metal trim piece that goes all around the phone actually made of metal or is it chromed plastic? if its metal i want to get mine powdercoated lime green =)
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
I'm sorry. It is simple plastic...
[XPERIA X10 General] :
McKebapp you are the best xDDDD
[XPERIA X10 General] saltorio:
Yeah, your effort is definitely appreciated McKebapp.
[XPERIA X10 General] sidneylopsides:
you can actually tell it's painted plastic by taking the battery cover off adn lookign at the edges of the chrome :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Jap, youre true. Maybe it is possible to remove the fake chrome with some alcohol and repaint it with sprayed paint?
[XPERIA X10 General] JoeAUser:
If you need the pics hosted send them to me if someone hasn't offered to do it already.. I run my own website and can put them up for you and send you the links.
[XPERIA X10 General] elroy944:
hello McKebapp

i've got a black version yet but i'm conciddering to buy the housing in white. i think i would only change the front and the back, The back is easy, how about the front? you did it, had you remove everything or could you just remove some screws and the front was removable?

found on ebay a full housing in white.
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Hi elroy944,

is the white housing S///E OEM (I guess approx. 60 - 100 Bucks) or is it a 3rd party aftermarket part?

I ask 'cause I have doubts with the touchmodule.

Taking of the Motherboard is as easy as taking of the backplate.

Disassembling the Display is also o.k..

But (as far as I could determine) the touchmodule is glued to the front housing. This could get a real pita...

Vriendelijke Groeten naar het Nederlands :)
[XPERIA X10 General] elroy944:
hmmm, tried once the kaiser it was oke to remove everything, but it was a puzzle to get it back haha

it's this one: http://cgi.ebay.nl/OEM-Full-Housing...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item439ebeee70

around 50 us dollars (37 euro) it says it's oem and it is including tools
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Uhm... thats really cheep.

A little too cheap, if you ask me :confused: .

As you can see, it is without the touchmodule.

I have no real idea how to get the touchmodule off the frontplate.

Maybe it is possible after heating it a little with help of a hairdryer or so.

If you like, I'll write a complete Disassembly Guide tomorrow

(I'm still a little dizzy from my B-Day yesterday.

But I'd write it down, as soon as I'm fully sober again :D )
[XPERIA X10 General] elroy944:
haha never mind, my x10 is sold and is gone next week, i'm getting monday my htc desire :)
[XPERIA X10 General] boo6:
strange holes on the backside where the xperia should be ..

//

great work McKebapp
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Yep, that's truly strange.

From modding/painting my m600i and from P1i I know, that some brand logos are stickers.

But the logos on X10 are pad printed.

Google picture search verified that its the same with the white housing... :confused:

And my OEM Wholesaler doesn't even list any spareparts yet.
[XPERIA X10 General] kanchi911:
great color led
[XPERIA X10 General] coderWinAmper:
Omfg McKebapp, you must urinate liquid napalm and crap highly refined silicon. The coolness factor on this is way off the charts. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Musse_1:
in regards to multitouch and the touchmodule it says that,

- X10 is using Synaptics ClearPad 1000 (single toutch)

- Nexus One ClearPad 2000 (dual touch)

and Legend/Desire ClearPad 3000 (MultiTouch)
[XPERIA X10 General] Flamso:
Are you absolutely sure about that?
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
Interesting posts from anders260 & rss_ndrsn over on Esato.

rss_ndrsn

anders260

Excellent posts guys! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] :
:eek: ehmmmm too much speculations, I don't know if I love MT or I hate MT :p
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
True. :D

However, both comments they have made are relievant.

It feeling we are moving towards a postive answer for the X10, as with the rooting process as well. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Musse_1:
noop, it's based on "rumors" & from some swedish forum/article discussions...here and here. search for ClearPad within pages
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Yeah.. the final season for X10 multitouch it's pretty close. By the way.. the multitouch for me it's something to get more euros on eBay after one year of use :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] ZenithUK:
I'm more bothered about your wallpaper. Tachikomas from Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex and the logo of The Laughing Boy in the sig.

Is your PC desktop Motoko Kusanagi by any chance? :)
[XPERIA X10 General] boo6:
it's the back of a SO-01B, the japanese X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Well, that only half truth.

I actually use to piss purified vodka. I adapted that trick from Asian Palm Civets that produce Kopi Luwak Coffee.

At least I simply do it "the liquid way". ;-)

And I don't poo at all. Its disgusting and there is no need for.

While I also don't sleep, my metabolism works at a level, that no "hard stuff" remains.

(Omg, I can't believe, I'm writing this ****. But I also couldn't resist ;-) )

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Why is that bothering you? (I hope, I got it right. My School-English faded a little, due to too much vodka fermenting :-D )

Yes, I'm an uber-GitS-Otaku. But no, there is no Major on my Desktop. She soon will be on the wall in my living room.

Atm I still work on a RGB LED "Philips-AmbiLight-Look-A-Like" frame to illuminate the picture in a befitting way. (-skunk- my friend where are 'thou? *screamslikealittlegirlforheeeelp xD )

Uhm... Still don't get what is bothering you...

But 'nuff OT. Feel free to contact me via PM or ICQ.

Lets get back to Topic (or at least part of it ;-) ).

I say its Single-Touch.

Why?

Some sources say it is MT, some say it is ST.

For me, It smells like Dual-Touch at max.

I don't think S///E bought Apples MT Patents (even If the Part Number matches the patent number. To me it's just fortune).

Since I have no clue, what may be the benefit from MT over DT. There seems to be no real need for MT on such a small Display. Or did I get it wrong?

DT and MT can be mistaken very easily.

When some S///E Guys said, there will be MT, I'm sure that they've been talking about DT.

Or even they misunderstood that Tap-and-Drag-whatever-it-is-called move, which can be seen in the well known Xperia X10 mini Developer Preview Video.

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Good work, thanks man.

I hope, that inside parts will fit.

But I guess if it doesn't fit, a Dremel will do the trick :D
[XPERIA X10 General] wcdisciple:
Just wanted to jump in here and bust your bubble a little bit....:cool:

Kanji is used to refer to Japanese written characters :)

Chinese characters are simply refered to as.....wait for it.......wait for it.....

aight, aight......Chinese characters are simply refered to as "characters". :D

I guess we can get back to the topic at hand (especially since I don't own an X10 :eek: (yet)!
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
Drifting off topic

This is a copy paste from wikipedia

"The Japanese language itself had no written form at the time kanji was introduced. Originally texts were written in the Chinese language and would have been read as such. Over time, however, a system known as kanbun (漢文) emerged, which involved using Chinese text with diacritical marks to allow Japanese speakers to restructure and read Chinese sentences, by changing word order and adding particles and verb endings, in accordance with the rules of Japanese grammar."

sry for arguing in the thread. If it bother have this post deleted.

But there
[XPERIA X10 General] dorifuto.boi:
the japanese has 3 sets of writing systems so kanji is not used to refer to japanese written characters only one of them. cause hiragana and katakana could refer to the japanese written characters too. kanji refers to chinese characters in japanese... so if the japanese went to china and saw the chinese characters, they would refer to them as kanji.

anyways thanks McKebapp for all that you've done.

can't beleive you would so such a thing for us xD mad props
[XPERIA X10 General] wcdisciple:
MOD Edit: Unnecessarily rude, please respect fellow members.
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
This is very interesting.

http://se-blog.com/exclusive-x10-mini-supports-multi-touch/
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Thanks for that input. Unfortunately still nothing official, like before.

If this one about the minis is true, who might be the supplyer for the X10 module? Epson?
[XPERIA X10 General] Flamso:
That's the question, isn't it? I'm not well versed in dual or multi touch-display manufacturers. But I wonder if there is other companies that can supply that many touch panels and still have support for more than single touch?
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
Who manufacturers the Apple screens?
[XPERIA X10 General] Alleniv:
Hi,

can you confirm no frontal camera in your disassembled device?
[XPERIA X10 General] Flamso:
I can confirm that with my X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] cvchetan:
only android fone wid frontal cam is the htc evo...

none other has it!!
[XPERIA X10 General] boo6:
the samsung GalaxyS also.
[XPERIA X10 General] boo6:
.. but it would be the ultimate dev-mod-project to reinstall the obviously planned frontcam back into the X10 .. hehe
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Hehe... I miss the missing FM Radio more than that...

In the past, it was possible to mod a Nokia 3650 with a new Display, Keypad PCB

and crossflash the Nokia 3660 Firmware to a Nokia 3660.

Or even older: Nokia 3310 to 3315 / Nokia 3330 to 3350 by changing the Displayunit and cross flashing the firmware.

Here are some hard modded examples I used for myself in that days...

*rememberingthegoodoldtimes

2x 3310@3315:

(don't wonder: handymeisterin was my commercial eBay account from 2001 - 2005 ;) )

3330@3350:

Unfortunately there is no X10², X10 Advanced, X10XP or so announced yet. :D

But maybe it will be possible to apply a DT or MT Display in the future by switching the touchmodule and provide some Linux-Kernel-driver-hacking after gaining root access?

Who knows :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] boo6:
never really was a fan of this nokia 3xxx stuff, but the mods are real good looking. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Well according to this S///E press release (?), we're dead and gone with any hope on MT or DT:

But:

I coulnd't determine the first source.

Just copied it from a blog.

So take the information with a pinch of salt. :)

Btw.: A User asked me a few minutes ago for a disassembly guide.

Shall I post it tomorrow in this thread, or may it be better to open another one, just for disassembling? :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] cvchetan:
well i think u can add the guide to the first post rather than opening a new thread.

ask a mod to rename the thread to "guide and exp of the disassembly"
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Hello Everybody,

I'm very sorry, but I can't provide a disassembly guide this eve..

I've catched a cold or some kinde of flu.

Whatever.

Shivering + Flat-Foilcables where never friends and never will be. :rolleyes:

I'll catch up on everything as soon as I'm on my legs again.

Guess Saturday will be fine.

Please use this thread in the meantime to ask whatever you like to know.

I've got both of my notebooks + the X10 beside of me and will try to help you as good as possible.
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
get better soon! :)
[XPERIA X10 General] omgsigh:
hope you feel better!
[XPERIA X10 General] Bikram:
So has it been confirmed that it has Clearpad 1000??

Sorry dont have much time to read through all of the thread :(
[XPERIA X10 General] boo6:
it hasn't been confirmed that it has Clearpad 1000.

there are also some semi-official statements from s/e-staff members that it's no clearpad at all.
[XPERIA X10 General] boo6:
great pictures thanks !

did you really disassamble it another time for the pics .. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Tri3Dent:
You should also make a video!
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Maybe he should disassemble our X10 for free. Please McKebapp, post your postal address LOL
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Nope, I'm sorry there will never be a video made by me.

Great Idea. I'll disassemble it for free.

And return each Part separately :p
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Well... Take a closer look at the Pictures...

Now call me McScarFinger :D
[XPERIA X10 General] omgsigh:
Thank You for all your hardwork. I'm guessing after your last picture removing the glass from the LCD is easy? I'm trying to do a full casing replacement.:p
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Japp, for the fourth time now... And I won't do it again. That damn fake chrome begins to come off.... :mad:

O.k. I'll be fair. The housing is not intended do be taken off that often. But I wonder how it will look after a year in my trousers pocket :rolleyes: .

Hi mate, I've just finished to write down my description for that disassembly guide. I've edited my yesterdays post. Please take a look at It. Especially the final words.

Oh, uhm... The Guide is posted. I'll now fix the readability a little :D
[XPERIA X10 General] noblackthunder:
hehe i will never ... NEVER !!!! take my x10 apart :P even if i have the education for that .. (yest i have !! ) but still .. the only day i take it apart when it stopt working and i have my new x20 ;) ...

you all are crazy :P just think of making somthing wron ... and hten pai for a new x10 .. dam... but what i realy want to do is take my work telefon apart and fix that F***** ***** *** * * * * **** * * **** GPS thats not workin on that *** **** *** iphone ***** ARRRGGG!!!!!

(this is why every one must love the x10 )

:P
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Uhm... Even if I didn't get, what the guy posted before...

Just liked to say, that I've finished the guide right now.

Next steps will be to hunt down the zillion of typos and improve it by some helping hand from the community. :cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] UltraNEO*:
dude...

still think those images are kinda small.. I have still space! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Bikram:
So we still dont know what kind of digitizer they are using and if multitouch is ever possible. :(
[XPERIA X10 General] Alleniv:
Hi,

may I ask wich is the number on the camera chip?
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
There will be no MT or DT.

S///E lately confirmed, that they have installed just a ST Module...

I'm sorry, I've just taken a look at my raw pictures.

I couldn't find any usable number at all...
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
If anyone needs any spare parts i've found this site.

http://cnn.cn/shop/sonyericsson-xperia-c-28_946.html

I dropped my X10 at the weekend, as i was drunk and have done some damage to the housing on the unit.

So i am looking at replacing the housing at the moment, i have emailed SE support to see if they can help. If not it looks like its going to be a mission :mad:
[XPERIA X10 General] boo6:
the problem is, that a falling X10 will end up with a damaged front frame.

as you can see in the tutorial, it isn't really easy to change it.

PS: the black and the white housings are also listed on ebay.
[XPERIA X10 General] UltraNEO*:
Hiya folks,

here are some high resolution macros of the various parts; where possible I've removed padding and concentrated on the identification prints/part references. I've also disasembled the display module and can tell you it's definitely not based on AMOLED technology as OLED displays don't have any backlighting what-so-ever!

X10 with back removed

Camera Module (Lens)

Camera Module (Rear)

Camera Module (detached with part/model number - perhaps)

Display Module (disassembled with LED backlights showing)

Touchscreen Module (with padding)

Touchscreen Module (without padding)

Status indicator & ambient light sensor
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Great shots. Do you allow me, to put them into first post, when I point at your post?
[XPERIA X10 General] UltraNEO*:
Sure :D Just no commercial blogs such as engadet, cnn etc.
[XPERIA X10 General] Alleniv:
Hi,

do you understand why I asked it? I felt from time ago that X10 supports HD videorecording :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Theaccomplice88:
Has anyone successfully separated their front window from the display? If so, how?
[XPERIA X10 General] KooolaNL:
Why do the first couple of pics DONT have the UltraNEO watermark ?
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
'Cause I shot 'em ;-)
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Did you give it a try with some hot air?
[XPERIA X10 General] Theaccomplice88:
I'm not trying unless I know that someone else has been successful with it :p
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Oh come on, somebody has to be first on doing this :rolleyes: :D

Is somebody around with a defective touchscreen?

I'd give it a try. And repair it for free, if spare parts and shipping is paid (and a little alcoholic gift is bundled within that package :D ). But I can't give any guarantee that it will work, yet.

I've also thought of buying a defect X10i from eBay or so.

But didn't find one...

Btw. some good news: My wholesaler has opened a category for X10. Even if there are no products listed yet, I' sure there will be some spare parts soon.
[XPERIA X10 General] sanjay_2001:
can u show me the radio chip?
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Not on UltraNEOs or my pictures...

It is hidden underneath the shielding plates.

But you can see the chips on the low res pictures, the FCC has taken of a ripped X10 Prototype:

http://www.xperiax10.net/2009/12/19/xperia-x10-disassembled-in-pictures/

It is the one on the left side of this picture:

It is the highly integrated Qualcomm QSD8250 (X10i) or QSD8650 (X10a) Chip aka Snapdragon.

Here are some specs:

http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/index.html
[XPERIA X10 General] sanjay_2001:
is it the radio chip for FM then y fm software is not in x10i?
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Who said this is the FM Chip?

Afaik, there is no one soldered to that phone...
[XPERIA X10 General] wai_lai416:
hi Mckebapp thx to your guide i was able to replace my scratched casing and now it looks brand new again. i took the plunge and removed the touch module and put it on the new casing. the module is held on to the casing by a strong double sided tape. all you have to do is lift 1 corner (it's not 100% taped down) and stick a guitar pick or credit card and run it across and it'll pop out. the new casing already have double sided tape on it for you to put it back on.
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Thats really great news.

Thank you very much for your efforts and having the guts to be first, that attacked the touch module :D

Did you take some photos?

I'd like to update my Guide, pinpointing to your solution.
[XPERIA X10 General] wai_lai416:
hmm unfortunately i didn't take photo of it when it was apart.. however i have the old piece so i can snap some pictures of that showing the double sided tape~ i think i have to disassemble it again just to take out the lint :( it's bothering me haha
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Naaah.. Don't take the risk to gain any defect by disassembling it again.

But a Picture of the old Part would be nice, to show the glued area and the place to begin at the non glued.
[XPERIA X10 General] brodos123:
Hi

I have already got a few scratches on the mineral glass (I removed the screenprotector:()

I guess the mineral glass is a part og the touch module. Am I correct?

So the only way to get a new glass is to replace the whole touch module?

Thanks for guide!!
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
You nearly got it right. :)

The mineral glass and the touch module are one part.

After removing the screen protector, you scratched the touch module itself.

There is nothing more in between.

And the touch module isn't made of mineral glass.

Its ordinary plastic. :(

How deep are you're scratches?

Maybe you can polish them out with some help of tooth whitening toothpaste in first and some polish lotion in second step?

Afterwards you should immediately apply a aftermarket screen protector.

I've tried out several. About each one, you can find on eBay (all ****ty), 3M Vikuti, Brando and so on...

I wasn't satisfied, till I found this one:

https://www.displayschutzfolien.com/?cmd=produkt&pn_id=2431

UltraClear means maximum Brightness and Contrast while UltraProtect delivers a well performing antireflection + a paper like surface.

Unfortunately their Homepage is in German only and Google Translator doesn't work on secured websites :(

But they deliver die hard fast to each country.
[XPERIA X10 General] brodos123:
Thanks!!

Are you sure it is not mineral glass? It is advertised with mineral glass!

If so I could complain and get a new one since it is not as advertised.

Thanks again!!
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Uhm.. please don't nail me on that one...

But with mineral glass I associate some glass like, hard and scratch proof surface.

But X10s touch module is flexible (if being disassembled) and to me a combination of a LCD-Screen + a touch module + a screenprotector are still not mineral glass.

But as far as I know, there is no definition of "real" mineralglass.

Mineralglass is just a collective term for slightly hardened plastics or glasses.

(Just took a look at wikipedia. And I also tried to change one of my wristwatches. It also was advertised with mineralglass and already had a scratch after one day of use. Nearly got mad 'cause even a cheap >500€ automatic watch should be scatchproof after all, to my opinion. But they simply said: Take a look at the >1500€ quartz or >3000€ automatic ones... That come with sapphire glass.. :( )

Sp really scratch proof is only sapphire glass...
[XPERIA X10 General] brodos123:
Thanks again!!

I ordered EXiM Ultra clear:)

My scratches are not deep, so may be removeable?

SE have been cheap with the screen!! I wish the screen was "glass" like the HD2 or Iphone.