yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] krizzk:
Great App

Hi,

I’ve tried both latest version of S2P and this iMulator on my HTC HD2. My conclusion is that S2P might have a lot of fancy options but iMulator runs MUCH smoother on the LEO. Keep up the good job, and this is the player for me and reminds me of the term: KISS

*KEEP

*IT

*SIMPLE

*STUPID

;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 66mustang:
Is there a VGA version yet?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Jup the one version for download should support all screen resolutions ;)

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] swc_ant:
Thanks a lot for the app, it looks great!

One rather big problem for me though.. for some reason it won't detect any of my music on my MicroSD. Windows Media Player, S2P and the HTC player all see my music fine...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TacoLoco:
Yeah I also tried both and I like iMulator but on my HD2 it takes seconds to load the next track.. Is this normal? In the meantime I updated the ROM to newer version, but the problem still exists.. Also the problem is not only with the newest version of IMulator..

Hope you can fix that as I really like the scrolling much better than in S2P..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
2 things affect the loading time of a song:

- the album art ( the bigger the slower )

- WMP; it needs to buffer the song and then it will play.

I cant speed up the process, I can put WMP first, so that it will load the album art when already playing.

Gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] asifn73:
error in the link it shows

there is an error in d link it shows central directory not found trin 2 dwnld in htc p3350 help.I m new to d forum . I have .net compact framework 3.5 install in my device.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TacoLoco:
Ok thanks for the answer, does this mean IMulator is something like a frontend for windows media player? When I use S2P or Media Player there is no waiting time between the tracks.. I really love the scrolling (and some other features) but I dislike this waiting time.. In S2P I don't like the scrolling.. So for now I'm undecided but I would really love to use IMulator if there is still a way to make this faster..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marioval:
Now that s2p is no longer freeware, lots of us are going to be watching imulator very closely.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Thanks for the feedback,

Your view of imulator is quite wrong... It's a music player which uses a *.dll file that WMP also uses;)

I improved the scrolling to an even better smoothness in my private version ;)

I changed the 'order' ( to play the song, then load the info ), that didn't really make a diffrance. So as long as I'm using this *.dll I won't be able to speed this up:(. (I guess I should make my own *.dll then?)

I definatly hope so!

I'm working on a new version:

-	Changed when pressing a song-> The song is now centered in the now playing list
-	Re-wrote a big part of iMulator:
- Changed the way the list of songs was loaded -> Instant album art loading ( when loading the list )
- Changed the way the list of songs was loaded -> 50% speed increasement
- Changed the way the list of songs was drawn -> Faster list drawing
- Fewer bugs
-	Added 'All Songs By Artist' option

Now I should work on settings and *.m3u playlists :D

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TacoLoco:
OK thanks again for the explanation, but I'm still not sure if this isn't another problem.. When I open the player, the first track I choose from the library is played immediately, but when I skip the track or choose another from the library it takes about 5 seconds until it plays.. Maybe I'm the only one facing this problem..? I also checked S2P thread and he also uses WMP Decoder but there is no such problem :confused:

Anyway this player looks very promising to me!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BeefJerky9:
Well, there was the same issue in earlier versions on my Touch Pro2. It was fixed at some point, though I can't remember what version it was fixed in.

As another person said, now that new versions of S2P are no longer freeware I will be keeping my eye on this. The main thing I am waiting on is M3U playlist support. It's looking like it will be in your next version, and I will definitely try it at that point.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Ey guys,

I just wanted to announce that all of you can expect a new version tomorrow.

After re-writing a big part of iMulator, I want to give it a good test. Therefor I'd like to test it tomorrow ( I'll use it for 2*1 hour long when going to and from school ).

This is my current 'changelog' of the current version:

[Current]
-	Changed when pressing a song-> The song is now centered in the now playing list
-	Changed the way the list of songs was loaded -> Instant album art loading ( when loading the list )
-	Changed the way the list of songs was loaded -> 50% speed increasement
-	Changed the way the list of songs was drawn -> Faster list drawing
-	Fixed Countless bugs:)
-	Added 'All Songs By Artist' option
-	Added the missing 'Options' form
-	Added Changeable Library Search Paths
-	Added Changeable Scroll Friction value.

Quite something to look forward to huh?

See y'all tomorrow!

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BeefJerky9:
Still no M3U playlist support in the version to be released tomorrow? This is the primary thing keeping me from being able to try this software.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Well the base for m3u implementation is present,

depending on how much time i've got, i'll implment it ;)

gz reb3lrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jebise101:
i hope you do add m3u before release, i would rather wait for that to get added so i can finally dump s2p and use yours since it's so much better and m3u is the only thing stopping me from switching that and its no longer free.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
New version is online!

Visit this link to download the latest version!

Changelog

[15 June 2010]
-	Changed when pressing a song-> The song is now centered in the now playing list
-	Changed the way the list of songs was loaded -> Instant album art loading ( when loading the list )
-	Changed the way the list of songs was loaded -> 50% speed increasement
-	Changed the way the list of songs was drawn -> Faster list drawing
-	Fixed Countless bugs:)
-	Added 'All Songs By Artist' option
-	Added the missing 'Options' form
-	Added Changeable Library Search Paths
-	Added Changeable Scroll Friction value.
-	Added *.m3u playlist support.

Guide

Library options:

- Update library ( updates the entire library [songs,AlbumArt,m3u + cleaning -> recommended])

- Update AlbumArt ( updates only the AlbumArt Cache )

- Update Playlist ( searches only for *.m3u files )

- Clean ( deletes songs that are outside of the library path, and empty albums, artists etc... )

One Love!

Reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] exmonk1:
play all album or artist

Nice player - is there a way to play all of an artist or album without using a playlist or something? So far I've only been able to play one song at a time (without using a playlist). This player is much better than mplayer and htc audio with it's hang ups. But I would like to be able to play more than one song at a time. It may be my intall or something (using a Tilt 2) Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Yes both of your 'requests' can be done.

Do the following to get the desired results:

For playing all songs from a single artist:

[HOME] -> Artists -> {ARTIST} -> All songs by {ARTIST}

For playing all songs from the same album:

[HOME] -> Albums -> {ALBUM} -> Select a song ( The whole list is copied to your now playing list, it can be accesed from the top left button in the player )

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Heart1010:
sorry but where/how we can set the library path (so that not all ringtones etc are fetched)!?

edit: ok found it but why not ask the user this path when you start the app 1st time!? now it scans the whole device for music at 1st start (which takes really long) and then you have to remove that again....!?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
- Open iMulator

- Go to: File -> Options -> (Tab)Library. (Your now in the 'library paths' editor.)

- Select the default "\" ( you can now edit that path in the testbox just above the 'Add' and 'Delete' button )

- Change that value to whatever you want.

- press 'Back to Player' ( your settings will now be saved. )

- Then press Library -> Clean

DONE!

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mwalt2:
Hi reb3lzrr,

iMulator works almost perfectly on VGA. The only problem I have noticed is your nag screen asking for donations. It is partially cut off on vga screens, though you can still click the buttons. Is it really necessary for this to pop up every time you open your program? That is really the only complaint I have. I find it silly to have to answer the yes or no every single time the program is launched. Surely there must be a better way like only run the nag screen on first launch or something...

Thanks for your work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] igorbr1:
it can read lyrics in tag???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mlevin77:
basic question: "options" does nothing, "add to playlist" is grayed out

I'm using this on a WM6.5 PPC (HTC Whitestone). When I hit "options" nothing happens, and "add to playlist" is grayed out. What am I doing wrong?

thanks

Mike
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Heart1010:
Yes.... found that.

But why first fetch ALL files on the device with first start and then have to set the library path in options!? My opinion is that the user should first set the library path after the first start and then iMulator should fetch this (user) path.

Rest is great!

Will "playlist feature" come in future? So that I can long click a song and say "play next", "move after/before current song" and such things...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
This order is indeed quite unlogical, for now I'll just leave it like this ;).

These features are already pressent, try to keep a song pressed down, after 1 second a small menu pops up;)

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beonebiker:
do you will make a vga resolution ?? because I've a diamond and I like your job !!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
It works on a diamond aswell;)

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] digital_biscuit:
Hey

Great software!! Have a few issues!!

When i start to play any song i get the following error:

SQLite error

no such column: play_count

Also, thanks for adding the library folder option, however, writing in my own location is a bit annoying, could you not open a folder browser up and choose the folder which you would want to use? Also, if you delete entries so there are none left, then update the library you get an error. Value does not fall within the expected range. I did this to clean out everything from my library as the refresh library didnt seem to remove things. Also, if you have nothing in there and then hit delete it crashes: Specific argument was out of the range of valid values. The whole library paths screen seems very buggy also, i have had several other crashes!!

The nag screen is annoying. I know you want donations, but there are better ways of doing it! Have a clickable link on your load screen?

Other than that, keep up the good work!!!

Digi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] digital_biscuit:
Also, due to my numerous crashes and restarts i had no system memory left. I take it the memory bug hasnt been fixed yet?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
- Close iMulator

- Go to your iMulator/database folder, delete the local_database.db3 file\

- Restart iMulator

that should fix all!

About the donations, I have like 50000+ downloads, no donations. So that is the only 'advertisement' in the entire program ;)

Killing the 'iMulator.exe' Process is required, because indeed, not the entire memory issue is fixed ;)

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drunkenmonkey:
hi

very nice music player i must say.....but i have a few snags with it if itll help make it better...

1. it uses up like 11 mb!! thats a lot...i think

2. scrolling while a song plays is a bit choppy

3. going to the next song is slow...if the transition is smooth itd be much nicer...most of the time i keep turning back my screen on just to see if the program is still running..

4. doesnt happen always but playback skips..

5. i dont know if its ok to ask this but would it be possible to integrate it the windows 6.5 lock screen?

6. and.....lol could some one skin it so it looks less like the iphone..??

7. forgot to add.....i cannot start the program after 2 exits ..... like 3 of them are in processes and i have to restart the phone to use it again..

oh yeah and i agree with the above modification on the advert...ill donate as well....but it may take a few months...gotta start earning...cheers!! and good work

my device - i900 omnia running a custom 6.5 rom..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] optyqus:
It's a nice player but you could have designed your own graphics... the iphone's player look is just old and boring.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ermallimaj:
Very cool idea but it is slow sometime and the music hangs, plus doesn't show all my mp3 tags correctly. Other mp3 player that i tried did. So for me it's unusable at the moment. Keep working though
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BeefJerky9:
I haven't had a chance to try the player yet. However, I for one, like the look of the iPhone/iPod Touch music player.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] x2h:
looks promising. very smooth and on par with iPod. better than s2p. thanks for the hard work. one suggestion: could you make an option that the songs are also organized based on the file name, not ID3 tags (like the Nitrogen player's feature)? I am asking because the Chinese fonts in the ID3 tags of my songs look totally messed up, but it look ok using file names (sorry for my poor English).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] digital_biscuit:
I'm pretty sure you will get donations as soon as its got a full complement of features! You are still in beta stage at the moment!! I shall be donating once it working nicely!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] exmonk1:
Doesn't switch

For some reason my player won't switch to the next song in the playlist. I messed around with it for awhile but can't get it to move to the next song.

Randy
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] digital_biscuit:
Fixed perfectly!!

One more thing, any reason why there is an instance of FormSettings in the task manager? After closing the options dialog should this be killed also? Will have more of a play at work tomorrow and report anything else, but otherwise, great work!

Digi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chris_ah1:
please dont whine about donations, the community will give when it gives.

I know I donated to S2U2+S2P creator because the request for donations was unobtrusive and I use the apps everyday and they work well with the features I need.

Once your app has several features I will happilly donate:

a) AAC playback

b) Gapless playback

c) looks and acts a little less like S2P 0.83 - press for seek bar, the volume, the play buttons, the icons all look very similar. I know imitation is highest form of flattery, but come on - a little skinning perhaps. People are more likely to donate for an original app.

One issue - I have double database entries for my mp3 files although the WMP database only has them listed once :(

TBH I didnt even realise S2P didnt have a database lol.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zachofalltrades:
feedback

This is a great step forward for WinMo MP3 players, and some much needed competition to S2P, especially since it has gone commercial.

I can confirm it displays fine on 640x480 (Touch Pro).

I hope that just means that items _in the database_ that are outside of the designated library path are deleted _from the database_ !!

REQUEST: I have a lot of music from compilation albums that ends up in the "No Artist" or "Various Artists" sections. It would be really nice if we could browse by the id3 tags for "Contributing/Performing Artist" and "Composer". I have the same kind of problem for downloaded podcasts.

Suggestion re: "loop settings"

instead of File Menu--> loop settings --> none/repeat/shuffle

how about a couple of icons to the left or right of the "rating" stars?

Suggestion re: playlists

--option to save "Now Playing" view as a new playlist (or add to an existing playlist)

--have a default playlist for "recently added" - that would be really great for podcast support
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mwalt2:
Don't get too caught up in donations. If your nag screen was 20-30 pixels lower, it would make the program non-functional on VGA devices. I'd find a better way to ask people for money.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JS Customs:
If got some problems. I really like alot of this programm but there are some things that made me go back to windows media player. Is it only on my phone or do other people have the same problems? If got a Touch HD btw.

Problems:

- When i shut down the program it wont show up unless i soft reset the phone.

- When a song is finished it replays the same song over and over again, and the settings are on shuffle, when i touch the next button it works right.

- With the volume loud the sound is really poor on a low setting its normal

I loveee the most played,playlist,favorites, and the look and feel !!!

Does somebody know why i have these problem ?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tomparrish:
Becoming a great app. Thank you for all your hard work. I haven't had alot of time to play with it, but one problem I've had was the speaker phone stopped working when I was making calls. I uninstalled it and it came back. Everything else so far looks great.

Phone tested on: HTC HD2 US T-MOBILE OEM ROM 2.13
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zachofalltrades:
YES...

AND in the cases where each track on an album is by a different artist, the artist for each track does not seem to be indexed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BeefJerky9:
You need to turn off repeat in Windows Media Player. Since iMulator is using the WMP dll file, if this is left on it will have this symptom. The same thing will happen in S2P if it is left on.

Hope that helps!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] exmonk1:
I like where this app is going. I like the HTC sense audio tab but not enough features and a lot of problems with 16gb of music because of the library indexing. I to am willing to donate cash when program further along.

I can't figure out why the program won't swith from one song to the next and run through my play list. If I hit the next button it will move to the next song and play but I have to do that for every song. I hope we can determine why. I like you app better.

I installed S2P to see if I would have similar issues and it worked fine. I'm running a LEO Cell Evo rom - version 9.1. It seems to be a very clean rom.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pedrovay2003:
Trying to run this on my Dash 3G (HTC Snap), and it won't load the files into the library during the initial setup -- It just crashes. Also, it won't install to the SD card even when the option is selected.

Thanks for your work on this -- I too have problems with Windows Media Player.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nuthineasy88s:
i really enjoy this app. very fast and easy to use. Except when i close it, it continues to use my mem. i'm running a 6800 dcd rom. every time i open then close this app it will take around 4mb until i have none left and must reset.

Any one else have this problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mrjazz:
nice

work good job
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jonboyuk:
The best library I've EVER navigated on winmo!!!!!!!

However, when I press "next track" on playback it takes 8 seconds to change the song. Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daedric:
SD Card speed and/or Album Image Size ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raja'i:
very nice app

its AMAZING

Great work man

i wanna give my feedback

i hope it helps

- the program gives me an error when i hit play all songs, i have abt 665 song at my device, it gives me " unexpected error, due to overflow exception" and many other details

- i think the index letters bar should be wider a little bit, its hard to press except with ur nails when u have a phone with raised margin at the screen edge

- many phones "including mine Xperia X1" have hardware bottons

i think associating next & previous to those buttons would be great, its easier when driving :p

thanks again man

its the best ever
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] igorbr1:
would be great if have less memory usage, lyrics view(tag and lrc), and AVRCP to control button by bluetooth headset...i like the interface..is very good...

sorry my english...

thx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daedric:
First, learn to walk, then learn to fly.

It would be better IMHO to solve te few bugs and issues, before trying to add more features.

The program is amazing as it is. What i would ask is for it to be LESS sensitive on the scrolling. Like... if finger/nail movement is just a few pixels/mm, its not scroll but click.

Apart from that, it's simply the best media player/organizer for windows mobile that i've ever seen. Joined with Media Monkey on the PC... simply WOW!

Congrats on showing the iPod/iPhone/iPad/iWhatevah that windows mobile is still the best there is! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
You 'got the bull by it's horns', in order for iMulator to reach its full potential, bugs and flaws need to removed. Only then would it be usefull to add features.

Most of you all would wonder where this reaction is comming from, me personally ( and with me I hope many others ), hate inconsistencies. Meaning, I want a piece of software that you can rely on, that is well build and works like a charm.

I think I did not choose the best OS to create such application. But I think I'm on my way.

First things first, bugs before features;)

This beeing said, I've kept a great list of desired features by the users on this topic. I hope to one day implement all of them!

Thanks for all the feedbacks from all of you, this is the key to improve this even further.

gz reb3lzrr

//edit: here is that list:

[B]Bugs / Flaws:[/B]
Memory Leak(!!!)
Switching songs delay
Adding songs (to now playing list ) delay
Repeating due to WMP

[B]Improvements[/B]
Lyrics
Skinable
Repeat / Shuffle on main Player
Blacklight settings
Search by featuring
Hardware keys
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tomparrish:
My bad the speakerphone wasn't due to this program it was due to the "My Account" app in the new 2.13 rom for my HD2. Sorry for jumping the gun.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fantum10:
iMulator , loads up but nothing else!!

I too have any HTC touch Touch Pro 2 .iMulator does not work on my device. It loads up normally, but only Plays the default ring tone. Nothing else, I've tried all the old posted updated so-called solutions with no result. I've tried all of the developers fixes again with no results but error messages. If anyone has a step-by-step instruction on how to get this music player to work it would be most appreciated. PS I know I'm not the only one who is having these problems with Imulator.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jonboyuk:
16 Gb Card - Sandisk Class 2. 3000 MP3's ish, all properly tagged etc.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nhshah7:
haha i'm impressed you responded to everything i commented on! it is likely that the freezing issues i was having was rom-related - energy rom consumption is pretty high up there lol. as for the playlist stuff i'll take a look at it next time i fire up the app, hopefully you can get a stable version (on my rom at least) out soon so i can switch to it permanently :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] badboy4life:
I've only just started using this great player, is there anyway that when selecting artist it could list by album artist instead of artist? or is this something that would need adding?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rutster:
Just installed this fantastic cab and all i can say is thank you very much.

Works fantastic and looks fantastic.

Many thanks.:D:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] simon1234567:
have a try！ thx :D