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[General Topics] xaccers:
Except that there are shed loads of other places to get apps from.

Compared with other app sites, MS Marketplace hardly has any apps for WM6.

The truth of the matter is that the phones won't suddenly stop working, WM has been renamed Windows Mobile Classic, there are plenty of sites providing apps for it, and no one knows how long this will continue.
[General Topics] stevedebi:
But no new devices

Maybe someone can confirm this, but I suspect that Microsoft is no longer selling licenses to WM 6.5.x, or any version except WM7. So it is impossible for manufacturers to build any more WM 6.x devices - they can't get the OS license.
[General Topics] z33dev33l:
Holy necro-posting Batman.
[General Topics] efeguwewe:
just use android
[General Topics] xaccers:
It's not yet good enough.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
From: RUU_Leo_1_5_TMOUS_2.11.531.T1_Radio_Signed_15.36.5 0.07U_2.09.50.29_2_Ship

Enabled the extra RAM

http://rapidshare.com/files/378110070/Leo_Radio_2.09.50.29_2.zip
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] joshkoss:
Flashing it now man...

This is Tmobile radio.. might want to warn non tmobile HD2 owners...

Edit, also my ram is the same dude... think we need the entire rom to have more ram...

Edit2, can you post the rilphone.dll from the oemdrivers on that build?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AllTheWay:
Where is P1Tater when you need those rilphone.dll in a cab

xmoo any ETA on when the ROM is going to be released
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
nope, waiting for the chineese guys to upload it....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] v-b-n:
Added to VBNFILES
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tids2k:
huda has it ... so does dave .. not uploading yet !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ricey1986:
Aint it only the tmous hd2's that have to be careful what radio they flash? thought the rest of us could flash either a 50 or a 51 radio? correct me if im wrong please.

Ricey
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] elburna:
Flashed it as a non-Tmob-User (European HD2 with EPlus) --> No Problems, everything is working. Battery seems to last well... :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tids2k:
the battery will last well ... only until you dont use wifi with n' enabled ... it drips the battery pretty fast. though connections are fast now ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] elburna:
Hmm tested Wifi N a while ago and must say, that i didnt notice a difference concerning speed (only have a 1 Mbit connection here in my house). So i switched it off again...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] TacoLoco:
Can you please explain why this is newer than 2.10 radio? Or is this 2.09 the newest with 576MB RAM?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] John-Wu:
+1

interessed too
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] myth1001:
I'm wondering also if 2.10 based custom ROMs work best with this radio or with the 2.10 radio. :rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chris_ah1:
tbh if in doubt stick with 2_09_51 for no 576MB. For 576MB then 2_01_50 - problem sorted.

I've found marginal differences between the two. Perhaps 2_09_50 adds something but it can't be a massive amount - not like the changes from earlier radios.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pkoper:
What marginal differences did you find? And are your findings based on disassembly or <20hrs of usage?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] myth1001:
i just flashed 2.09.50.29_2 radio. My first impression was the change in 3g signal quality.

In my room,

Using 2.10 radio, my 3G signal is around 2-3 bar when I leave my phone on the table, and 1-2 bar when i hold it on my hand.

However with this radio, 3G signal is 3-4bars when I leave it on the the table, and 2-3 bars when phone is on my hand.

There seems to be a better signal quality, at least for my case.

Call quality seems alright.

Can't report on effect on battery life yet.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ionhide:
I installed this radio this morning, to test it - My first impression is that batterylife on it is very poor - I loose like 5% battery everytime i use the phone for sending a text message.. Went back to 2.09.51 version, a lot better battery on that... I even had to charge it this afternoon to keep it on..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bastanamnet:
There were so many advices on the radio version numbers..

xx.xx.50.xx - for HD2 Tmous

xx.xx.51.xx - for HD2 (classic, or original, or whatever - just HD2 :-)

The best advice - just do not mix radios with wrong HD2s. There are many stability issues. Also, that notorious 576 MB, which does not exist in reality on a classic HD2..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ionhide:
What about rilphone ? Only for TMOUS ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] saiian:
I actualy 2.10.50, and 2.10 is good.

Today go flash 2.09.50 for compart ...

Thk for the new !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ala380:
I am getting MUCH better reception with this radio so far. I haven't been able to test the battery extensively but so far it has held up well. I am going to stick with this radio for a while and see how it goes.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Sultan1993:
are you insane? 576mb is real! try to use radio that doesn't give you 576, and you will have only 330mb total program memory! flash 576 enabled radio, and you will have 449mb total program memory! (i'm not telling about ROM storage)

this approx 100mb is used for the system, just like you can never use all of your RAM on your PC, cause 20-30% is used by the system
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] saiian:
More reception on 2.09.50.x than 2.10.50.x !

Thk
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ionhide:
Today my HD2 lost data/3g signal with this radio for more than 30 minutes - The signal was completely gone, and data kept disconnecting.. I talked to my provider and a friend on the same provider, and none of them have had any problems.. Think it was the radio..
[General Questions and Answers] sipos:
I'm a reasonable technical user (can program, some experience reverse engineering) but, I'm completely new to modding/hacking phones. I'd like to learn a bit about android phones so, does anyone know a good beginner tutorial that covers all the jargon used by the community? Also, does anyone know of a description about how the android phone boot process works?

Eventually, I'd like to learn enough to start contributing new tools to the community but, for now I'm a complete newbie so, I also have a few specific questions newbie questions (if these are covered by some tutorial, please link it and I can read it myself):

What is a gold card exactly? I know it allows you to flash new images but, how does it work?

What do CID and RUU stand for?

What do people mean by radios (as in replacing the radio)?

What exactly is rooting a device? Removing some restriction in the boot process? Granting the default user root privileges? Getting root privileges in debug sessions? Something else?

I've seen sites that generate gold card images and 'reverse' CID numbers. What are the actually doing when they do this?
[General Questions and Answers] Rudegar:
ruu == rom upgrade utility

cid == http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ

Radio == GSM radio stack == firmware which control the phone part of the device

rooting == getting root access as in getting Administrator access to the system
[General Topics] RedRamage:
So... my work place uses Groupwise. Ugh. :( I want to be able to sync wirelessly with my calendar and contacts and tasks and documents. I can get my email easily enough with imap, but the rest of the stuff is a lot harder.

Currently I've got my contacts in Groupwise. I then use CompanionLink to sync them up to my Google account, and then use Google Sync to get them to my phone. It's cumbersome and introduces a lot of room for error and duplication. Plus CompanionLink for Google can only handle one phonebook from Groupwise right now.

I do the same with appointments. Again, cumbersome and I will often get duplication of my appointments.

Tasks can't be handled well with Groupwise and CompanionLink.

Documents are handled in a similar way. I use Syncplicity to get my documents from my harddrive to an online location. I can also sync Syncplicity to my Google Doc account, and I can access them from there on my phone as long as I have a connection.

I'd really like to find an easier, more accurate way to do all this. I know about Microsoft's MyPhone service, and I use it to back things up. But as far as I've been able to find there is no way to sync groupwise stuff to MyPhone, is there? Anyone have better way to get wireless sync done? (Preferably free, but I'm not against paying a little if it's reasonable and good service.)
[HD2 General] xmas130936:
Hi,

Now I am using Registry Workshop to revise my HD2 registry, and some problems have:

1. When I use Registry Workshop in my computer with 64 bit XP Professional, why is the menu "connect mobile device registry" disable? it's grey. I installed all of the softwares same as another computer, which is 32 bit XP, however the menu on that computer is able. Why?

2. How to make Garmin Mobile TX screen-display automatically rotate through modifying registry?
[Android] cyanogen:
I really dislike the "chef" moniker when it comes to Android, since we are more of an open-source community. I think it implies a "file pusher" mentality. But then again, I am biased against proprietary versions of Android like Sense, so feel free to disregard all of this.

Here's my advice for those looking to make their own Android ROMs.. Stop. Write an app or two first, learn how the system works from a developer standpoint. Learn some Java. Read the developer documentation. Learn how to use Git. Then learn how to build AOSP from source. Read the porting guides, and learn how the build system works (the links below have almost everything you could possibly want to know). Now try to put your new found skills to work on enhancing the platform by writing code or making theme overlays. And share! And put that **** on your resume. There is a *ton* of information out there but any kind of "step-by-step rom cooking guide" is going to be a complete fail- it's too broad of a subject.

Android Developer Guides: http://d.android.com

Working with AOSP source: http://source.android.com

Platform Developer Guide: http://pdk.android.com

Android Gitweb: http://android.git.kernel.org

Git Ready (Git tips and tricks): http://www.gitready.com/

Building CyanogenMod: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Building_from_source

How Dexopt works and what are those odex files: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=pl...bcd225e47b2cc7abb2a366112d3aeb45936;hb=master

The PDK site is absolutely vital if you are going to work on custom ROMs. Read every single page. Twice. Some of the info isn't up to date, but you'll get a really good idea about what goes into actually configuring Android to work on a real device.
[Android] ctso:
I cannot agree more. Learning the in's and out's of the Android framework will benefit newcomers SIGNIFICANTLY.

Building ROMs is easy, fixing bugs and adding new functionality is the fun stuff, and having a solid understanding of the Android framework helps with this. The best way to learn is to pick up the Android SDK and whip up some apps, there are great tutorials out there.
[Android] Vermithrax:
Awesome information! It is good to see I have been reading the right literature... There are also a few that I missed... Thanks again for the links!
[Android] jcarrz1:
I completely agree. But it's cyan saying it, who wouldn't :)

I am ok with "chef" terms because they were born on XDA, which makes them kinda cool, but I agree that the file-pusher mentality/stereotype is quite derogatory.

I hope this section goes places.

P.S. Hearing a diehard android dev like you (cyanogen) say that you are biased against sense really made me think about how good plain old android really is... so clean and functional. Good stuff bro.
[Android] PAINiNFLIKTA:
very nice thanks for the info was looking into this...now to fill the brain.
[Android] Shaquiel Harris:
Weird how this is exactly what i was looking for. Time to read. Thank you cyanogen.
[Android] jubeh:
I'm with Cyanogen on the bias against pre-built, proprietary code blobs. Even the non-free, basic parts to get AOSP to build for dream give me the hivie-jivies, mostly because the reason we're in such a pit now with further versions of Android is because we have no source to maintain working basic functionality (yeah, video in a device capable of recording/playback is basic).

I'll try to work a couple basic tutorials based on my rom-building exploits covering things from getting android built from source, to actual troubleshooting possible problems, to having a hand at modifying the source so you can make the built your own. I really want to see somebody come up with a real custom rom on the android part of the OS and leave the linux part rest for a while.
[Android] blackgin:
Oh man! PDK! Never seen it! Thanks a lot
[Android] brnbock:
Great job

As always, my hat is off to you Cyanogen. This is exactly what i was looking for. Once again thanks for your hard work and dedication to the project.
[Android] studjuice:
This is awesome. I am going to be learning this stuff over summer. But there seems to be a gap of information between learning the android stuff, and learning the linux stuff.
[Android] rodigezstyle:
Hi do you know some guides online to build Overclocked Kernels ???
[Android] mistere372002:
PDK website

Odd that the PDK website does not function. Anyone know who owns it?
[Android] blazingwolf:
Works fine for me. What issues are you having?
[Android] tomit12:
I guess I'll be the first in the thread to ask the extreme newbie questions.

Are the links in the OP in a particular reading order, or is there a recommended order?

Since the entirety of my programming experience is some simple VB type stuff, will I be able to learn from the ground up via those links, or will it be more like trying to figure out the words in a Chinese book with no knowledge of the language?

At one point I had managed to cobble together a web front end on my Droid for wowhead.com (all it did was bring up a screen with a search box, which would then pop open the browser with the results of whatever you searched for), but to say I had a firm grasp of what I was doing in my tinkering would be a gross overstatement.
[Android] jmz:
So, firstly thanks for the websites. Personally, I already knew about most of those. But that is beside the point right now.

Why would someone want to learn how to program anything when they are just building a rom? I just don't understand what is wrong with someone only tweaking and slimming a rom down. What point would it be for a website like this to make everybody just go out and learn on their own EVERYTHING, and then what would this site be for? Posting only in the development forums? This is a support website. Plain and simple. Who cares if someone asks a question? If they searched and couldn't find something, let it go.

In your same thought process, very FEW WM chefs could call themselves chefs. And before you ask yes, I could call myself a chef because I have written quite a few apps to assist in building a rom or actual tool for WM. Maybe not the best chef, but one nonetheless.

I just think this is basically discouragement of any new developers/chefs from posting something in fear of being chastised. I am absolutely still learning android. If it wasn't for the people of SDX, particularily joeykrim, I wouldn't be so close to a final product of my Android kitchen.

This being said, maybe I am just full of crap and the only one that will go against your POV. Mainly because I am not afraid to state my opinion. And this POV is wide across the forum and this is why I don't contribute much here anymore
[Android] Romparoo:
Thank you.
[Android] KalimochoAz:
Thanks for your support/advice,

I'm trying to understand all the stuff in order to create a new ROM for Tattoo from 0, and I will take your info in order to. Crate this ROM and make a step by step manual to help people to understand how to modify their Tattoo's. I will like to see this cooperative knoledge share for this phone. As more peoople understands all this stuff, and all this work done by the comunity, more people will join and share to have better phones every day.

Tanks
[Android] KalimochoAz:
java version

hi all,

Working 100%. Thanks for this great work. Now runing this 2.6.34 kernel on tattoo. Just now ajusting the kernel configuration.

Cheers
[Android] DyeZone:
great advice

Cyanogen

Thanks for your support & advice

Time to start reading....:eek:

trying to understand all that is needed ==

TO BE A DEVELOPER..

IF ANY BODY HAS MORE INFO OR VIDEOS ..

PLEASE POST

----------------------------------

Currently own a Sprint EVO 4g > and plan on making great things for it..:D
[Android] leonnib4:
Cyanogen you are so damned right. Building a Rom should implicitly mean that you know git, Android, dev and... read api and docs :-)

I'm thinking about dsixda Rom kitchen.

I use its scripts to unpack kernel and zip everything, but largely customized the scripts and added some. In fact I love shell scripts. :-)

I just wish you could also post a link to a toolchain tutorial for those willing to compile binaries from sources on x86 for an ARM architecture. And also to add shared libraries.

Have a nice day.
[HD2 General] gazenhokenz:
I just recently got a HD2 and I flashed it with Energy ROM April 18 23559 With Cookie Tab and Radio 2.08.50.08

I have all the battery settings in Advance config on, all autoupdates are off, and gmail syncing every 10 minutes with autodisconnect in 10 seconds.

The reason I need some help is because my battery is literally going down multiple percentages within 5 minutes using EDGE. Is there any way to fix this? Its been about 2 hours with mainly texting and my battery is at 68 percent.

Edit: Also even when i have no programs running my internet likes to just start running for no reason, is there a program that shows the internet usage?
[HD2 General] fruchtfliege:
do you have tried tmous radio rom 2.07 with 576mb enabled? for me it was a huge difference in battery drain compared to 2.08... 2.07 was nearly perfect for me but like on 2.08 i have bad call quality. that's why i'm testing tmous 2.10 since today.
[G1 General] jamb:
Well i have done the rooting and now i have more ques:p

1-best rom = i tried like 2/3 roms but they always get force close soo i need fast/stable/2.1based rom and yes dont eat much battery .....plz plz plz i m not gud at finding right rom.also what do the ppls think about CaNNon202 rom??is it stable?

2nd-do i always need to dangerSPL and Radio while installing any rom??

3-App2SD.. i idk how can i create ext2 in windows i use paragon partition manger process but when i put sd card in mobile it say i need to format it and after i just create complete 1 fat32 partition do i need to 1st create partition and then install the rom or what do i need to do to install apps on my sd card and also i need the files which i downloaded from marketplace into my card...

Thanks

Jamb
[G1 General] Jimmy_Z:
1, no such thing IMHO, if you want stable, stick to stock ROM

2, no

3, there are tuts telling you how to get it done in console, and, I don't recommend app2sd, slow like hell
[G1 General] nmw407:
Why wouldn't you run apps2sd? I've got the csdi roms with apps2sd and this thing is blazing fast. Besides, if you're going for apps with larger sizes, you're going to want apps2sd.

I find I'm OK with the 1.6 roms with Eclair bits. Don't need live wallpapers, and the Eclair bits have all the necessary things anyway. Personally I think the 1.6 roms are very stable at this point. Very few fcs and they're speedy.
[G1 General] jamb:
fellows plz mention me the rom name ..i don't need live wallpapers coz it just slow the os and saying force close and what about 3d gallery coz i m not able to see the pics there..

@nmw407...mate plzz mention the rom name or i just need to unroot it and use 1.6

right?
[G1 General] r3s-rt:
i really recommend cyanogen. i stopped using it at 4.0.4. flashed every version he's ever made and i never really had good speed. this latest one is NICE, though, and i've hopped back on. for now. :P but i hear these CSDI ROMs are fast. just try any of them.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448

just look for CSDI in the post title.

as for partitioning, i use amon_ra's recovery.
[G1 General] nmw407:
I've tried cyanogen, superD, and now I'm currently on sciencetest. All these have been very stable. For those starting out, cyanogen has the best step-by-step guide, however, it does require additional steps because he went legal. Some of the other 1.6 roms out there are one step roms.

Use amon-ra's recovery, partitioning sd cards have never been simpler. Much better than partition manager. I used to get read/write errors all the time with partition manager. With the latest amon-ra's recovery, you can pretty much do everything on the phone.

Just remember to nandroid/bart backup, and completely wipe before flashing a rom (again... super easy with amon-ra recovery.) Having a backup will save your life or at least some hair.
[G1 General] jamb:
Right now using CaNNon202....but as as always its slow :(
[G1 General] AroundTheWorld:
CSDI is really fast and really reliable for me (not using apps2sd). I've had like 1 or 2 app crashes total, and I've been running it for the past month or so, so it's been a lot more stable than any other rom I've flashed previously.

Plus, you get a lot of options like customizing the number of columns in app drawer and number of home screens.
[G1 General] Burko:
Go Cyanogen. v5 is on the way, which wont be a generic half-assed 2.1 port with reduced functionality.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] rdaprix:
Here’s a new one; most of use string dialing to access voice mail—for example, on Verizon I have a speed dial that dials (where the “$” represents my pin numbers here for example’s sake):

“*86pp$$$$#” No sweat, it dials in gets the greeting, interrupts the greeting and enters my pin.

BUT my corporate voice mail system requires a ten digit access number followed by an 8 digit pin dialed DURING the first ring before greeting pickup. Meaning if I did the same thing:

“$$$-$$$-$$$$,$$$$$$$$#” it was too late—the ring tone was over.

So—is there a way to dial the second string (the 8digit pin immediately without the device thinking its an international call? If I put in 18 digits it ignores the last 8. If I use a “,” or “p” it’s too late.

Is there a way to customize the duration of a “,” (500 ms) or a “p” (1 second) in the registry or a hack for it?

I’m sure I’m not the only one with this problem.

Additional note: since the original post I switched the phone settings to short tone dialing and that worked… for now—but editing the pause duration would still be cool. Ideas?)

Now—if anyone can get Voice command to work with my Bluetooth headset (Jawbone II) I will buy you lunch!! Hell, Dinner!!
[General Questions and Answers] o0k00l:
Can anyone provide me with Windows media player playlist creator ... So that i can create playlist on computer and save it on mobile to play it ...
[General Questions and Answers] stylez:
Moved as not software release.

Don't use WMP on phone but surely it can read .m3u playlist files? PocketPlayer does ;)

So you can create the playlist on computer "i use Winamp" then just copy files and .m3u to phone.
[General Questions and Answers] starbase64:
Hi,

attached cab is a little playlistmanager.

with friendly greet

starbase64
[General Questions and Answers] Zentury:
I am using this freeware, Playlist Creator, on my WinXP PC.

http://www.oddgravity.de/app-opc.php