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[Windows Mobile Software Development] benjaminchia102:
Dropped framerate confirmed on the stress test page

Your device model: HTC Touch Pro 2

ROM you are using: Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional CE OS 5.2.21864 ( Build 21864.5.3.0 )

FPS displayed in the corner

See attachment.

Just tested the paragraphs page. Your expected results is confirmed. Framerate dropped drastically. From 26++or 32++ dropped to 12-13 fps on the stress test page.

Any additional GPU drivers you have installed (if any) : None

And finally how does it feel to you in general:

The other addition like screen orientation is working great.

Overall, even though there was a drop in the stress page, it's still isn't too bad. Still quite usableble. 10++ fps.

Doing great still!! Keep it up!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
I was working on it last hour, and due to your idea I was able to find the bottleneck and optimize it. Now it's 22+ FPS all the time :-). You will see in todays release. Thanks!

And also thanks to all other members for testing and not letting me down :-).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
First post updated. Sorry, most of today changes are under the hood :-).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Blue Ice K4:
here i am to review the 4th demo...

i noticed an higher fps without movement, 56 in normal page (on the top of page) and 49/50 in stress page

scrolling the page i noticed some evident flick when arrive to the images, slowing down also at 16fps, instead in stress page in scrolling fps are always about 45 and very smooth... previous release it's always smooth.

two questions/subjestions:

are you going to implement a scrolling indicator? like in folder explorer standard of hd2

is it possible implement pages of different width? so to switch between pages with normal arrow keys and can navigate the pages in all direction
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
The FPS goes down when any image is displayed, right? It seems that OpenGL ES has some issues with displaying multiple textures :-(. I will take a look at it and possibly cut back some graphics and replace it by dyes :-(.

I will definitely implement the scroll indicator, but I am afraid that the page will be always designed to fit the screen precisely :-). Just to keep it lucid.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] benjaminchia102:
Feedback on the Four Demo - Very very good

Your device model: HTC Touch Pro 2

ROM you are using: Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional CE OS 5.2.21864 ( Build 21864.5.3.0 )

FPS displayed in the corner

See attachment.

Just re-tested the paragraphs page. It seems that even the average went up. None went down. Framerate improved drastically. From 13++or 18++ went up 32-38(sometimes 40++) on the stress test page.

Any additional GPU drivers you have installed (if any) : None

And finally how does it feel to you in general:

Screen orientation still works fine.

Over I'm quite impressed by the last modification you made. It makes this framework very useable already.

Thanks for all the hard work. I'm looking forward to the updates you planned to make!

Keep it up!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] andes83:
Tested Demo4 here are some of the impressions I had

HTC TouchHD

Rom:L26HDLEOV4 Ultimate Serie 5.2.21869

Blackstone Hybrid Drivers

lowest frame rate 18 fps , overall 20-30 fps when scrolling , stress page is 18-20 fps so big improvement on the stress test.

One question is this only app oriented or there can be whole UI's with this framework and which developers are interested as I want to see their creations ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tsamolotoff:
52 fps on Acer neoTouch (s200), stock 3.003b ROM with stock GPU drivers... very smooth, no visual artefacts, why can't Opera work in that way :D

In landscape fps jumps from 50 to 70 and back...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
Oh, great :-). So just my device is weird. I have no idea why it stopped working here.

I am not sure if I understand it right, but I will release full source codes of the last demo app (including final graphics) with TouchWM sources and Koush's OpenGLES wrapper included, so anybody can build his own TouchWM-based application if he is at least remotely familiar with C# :-).

I believe that users without GPU would be pissed :-)).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Blue Ice K4:
on hd2 screen orientation doesn't work, if you mean landscape and portrait mode depending on pda position, otherwise i didn't understood how can i test it or it works :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
Oh, I should have made it clear; I've rephrased it in the changelog now :-). It's for devices with slide-out keyboard only. You do not have to worry about that.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
First post updated.

Today it's a big one - whole day of coding. So test it, please :-).

For Blue Ice K4: The FPS "flick" should be fixed now. At least I hope - my device was OK even in demo 4 :-/.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Archer:
Your device model

HD2

ROM you are using

Dutty's HG v0.8

FPS displayed in the corner

On the "Home" page, it jumps around, from as little as 25 to as high as 79, but usually around 59 (at rest). As soon as I move it, it's around 16 or 17.

On the "Stress it" page, however, I'm getting conistently around 50fps, at rest or when scrolling. That page scrolls as smooth as anything!

Any additional GPU drivers you have installed (if any)

I have the Chainfire 3D driver installed (don't know if that will make any difference to this).

And finally how does it feel to you in general

It feels really nice, except the home page, when the frame rate drops down. Movement gets choppy and it spoils it. Everywhere else it's nice and smooth.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
That was so fast I am not even sure whether you have tested Demo 4 or Demo 5 :-). If it was Demo 5, I am really getting out of ideas what is wrong with it :/.

Thanks for testing!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] richieacc:
Stock HTC Touch Pro 2, no additional drivers.

The latest test app looks and feels great. FPS between 29 and 33 when stationery, going up to 41 when scrolling. The lowest I saw on the Stress It page was 17, but it went UP to 55 at times, where the images are. Really great. I can't wait to start using it!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Blue Ice K4:
hi!

just tested the version 5... and just formatted my hd2 (still with stock rom) so i could make a test without and with additional chainfire 3d driver.

without driver

on principal page i have high max fps, about 60, but very flicking scrolling almost on every point (test, image, end of page)

on stress page i have less problem on text part but really slow and choppy on element part and images...

with 3d driver:

principal page it's awesome, always smooth and fast, also if i have lower max fps, about 55.

on stress page i have no problem, unless on multiple image part where the problems still remain...i can't understand why...

i noticed you implemented also horizontal gesture for changing page, but i think it must be optimized, because horizontal sensitivity it's "too high"... i try to explain, normal scrolling movement are not always perfectly vertical, but they have also and horizontal component because often they are a little diagonal... i think you should manage the gesture, in case of different gesture between horizontal and vertical movement (one change page and the other scroll it) you should analyze the movement and choose the gesture with major component, in this way movement won't be missunderstood from the software i think... do you agree?

bye! and good work ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
Yes I do :-).

First post updated, you need to try this one :-).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Blue Ice K4:
ok... now we are ok!

also because i found and improvement on my hd2 that made your program to not flick also with other old version... i enabled the GLmode of chainfire driver that makes them "slower" but more stable and so no more flick or whatelse!

obviously the graphic improvement lowered the fps, but between scrolling and no movement are about 3 fps!!!

i have now...34-38fps on main page

45fps on future plans

30-31 fps on stress page on long text part, in short text they are 41fps, 31 on control item part and 44fps on image part!

the movement it's awesome now! no flick and the scrolling it's so fast and smooth to make the same optical effect of when you se wheel moving fast that seems going on reverse side!

number selection buttons are really precise and i didn't make any error clicking them really fast.

i saw also the scrolling indicator, is it possible include also the gesture for sliding it if i touch it with my finger? so to improve scrolling speed when you have to go down really a lot :)

disabling gl mode i have about 55fps everyhere also in movement and still some little flick on image stress part, but they are not so much as in older version!

;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] benjaminchia102:
Feedback on demo 6 - Very smooth and very nice graphics

Your device model: HTC Touch Pro 2

ROM you are using: Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional CE OS 5.2.21864 ( Build 21864.5.3.0 )

FPS displayed in the corner:

See attachment.

Overall performance is great! minimum is about 26 fps. Averaging 32++ fps to max of 55fps at times when scrolling through graphics.

Any additional GPU drivers you have installed (if any) : None

And finally how does it feel to you in general:

Personally, I think you are doing great with the interfaces. With the scroll bar and swipe action is performing as expected. And very touch friendly.

Keep it up!! Looking forward to more of your updates.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zyphuris55:
smooth like liquid butter

Your device model:

AT&T Touch Pro2

ROM you are using:

Energy 21898 Sense2.5 with Cookie HomeTab (Apr 14)

FPS displayed in the corner:

Long paragraph test: 22-24 fps

Short paragraph test: 31-35 fps

Control item test: 26-28 fps

Pictures test: 49-50 fps

Scroll the page till there is only black: ~53 fps

Any additional GPU drivers you have installed (if any):

At0mAng Enhanced D3D Driver

And finally how does it feel to you in general:

VERY responsive. responded very nicely to small flicks, small quick flicks, long slow flicks, and long quick flicks. The test was readable faster after a scroll than the scrolling menu WM has. There was no glitch or stutter to be found.

Final note:

5 thumbs up on your work
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
So it was all just driver issue? I guess this is the risk of developing accelerated apps :-).

Thank you, guys! I would be nowhere without knowing that it does work as it should on other devices as well.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
First post updated.

APR 29 is a Final Demo, but it is not the end of the development. This version should be attached to my thesis, and development will continue when it is done. The deadline is MAY 7, so do not worry, it will not take a long time. When my thesis is finished, I will release the source code as well. Please, test this final demo and send me a report; it is important to me.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] benjaminchia102:
Final Demo - Still Great!!

Your device model: HTC Touch Pro 2

ROM you are using: Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional CE OS 5.2.21864 ( Build 21864.5.3.0 )

FPS displayed in the corner:

See attachment.

Think its about 25-32++ fps averaging. On graphic areas, it's much faster like 50++ fps. On the stress test page it's pretty much stable at 20++ fps -30fps.

Any additional GPU drivers you have installed (if any): None

And finally how does it feel to you in general:

Overall I'm quite please with this piece of developement and the speed it produces especially with such a big stress page. Looking forward to the release and further updates as well. :)

Others (fun stuff you can implement if you feel like it):

Maybe if you have time after you have submitted your thesis, can work on popup forms.. that appear on top of the original form, something like layering.

Looking forward to your next update. ;)

Thanks for working on this everyday!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
I kinda will. I plan to do some text input like this :-).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
I was just testing the app within various Rhodium ROMs, and the results are kinda surprising for me :-).

Shipped ROM with WM 6.1

You have to install .NET CF 3.5 (I am wondering why, I was definitely building an .NET CF 2.0 project...)

Home: 30-40 FPS

Options: 30-31 FPS

Bench long: 24-25 FPS

Bench short: 33-34 FPS

Bench control: 27 FPS

Bench picture: 50-51 FPS

Not only the results are good - the overall speed of the system is just fantastic :-).

HTC Official 6.5 upgrade

You have to install .NET CF 3.5

Home: 32-40 FPS

Options: 30-31 FPS

Bench long: 25 FPS

Bench short: 34-37 FPS

Bench control: 26-27 FPS

Bench picture: 50-51 FPS

Basically the same thing. But the system is little less responsive. Still great though.

Energy.RHODIUM.21901.Sense2.1.Apr.23

Home: 29 FPS

Options: 28-30 FPS

Bench long: 24 FPS

Bench short: 29 FPS

Bench control: 25-26 FPS

Bench picture: 29 FPS

Even when the system is as responsive as official upgrade, the OpenGL ES performance is ****ty.

Energy.RHODIUM.23563.Sense2.5.Cookie.HomeTab.Apr.23

Home: 33-39 FPS

Options: 30-31 FPS

Bench long: 25 FPS

Bench short: 35-37 FPS

Bench control: 27-28 FPS

Bench picture: 51-52 FPS

The system just does not feel that smooth (which is kinda annoying), however, the OpenGL ES performance is very impressive.

Now I have appeal on you, guys. Are you in touch with any HW accelerated device (in this case only Qualcomm, I suppose) running Windows Mobile 5 in any revision? Could you, please, try to run it? Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
I would like to inform you, that my thesis was graded 1 (A), and I have succesfully finished my bachelor degree :-). Thank you all for helping me with testing.

However, I will have to resolve some license issues with my university before submitting the source codes, so please, stay tuned.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] benjaminchia102:
Congratz!

Hi there!

Congrats on getting a very good grade for your thesis!! and completing your degree. :)

You most certainly deserve the reward for your hardwork. ;)

Looking forward to a favorable answer from your university.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
I put the wheels in motion, the school agrees with releasing it as open source, I just need to wait for the papers now :-).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
I urged it, but it seems that my school does not give a crap about the contract. Are you still interested in using my framework so I should bother with it one more time? Or we just let it go since WM is practically dead :-/?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wmexperts:
keep going and Windows Mobile is not dead.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Johny_G:
OMFG, after all that time, they just lost the paperwork :-(. I just hate this dumb bureaucracy, that my university owns my work... Everything in Europe is just lost in tons of paper. I will try to make them sign a new contract, but I really do not believe that anybody in WM community does care anymore. I do not even have WM phone now...
[Hero CDMA General] shippbe:
Edit: Nevermind. I found another post with the answer.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] donwhann:
hey guys. after the release of the awesome cht theres been quiet a few threads showing off the skills of the clock makers. now, although these clocks look cool an all that, there not for me.what I want to know is, is it possible to create a flip clock that looks like the old 70s/80s digital watches that had the bright red lit up look when you pressed a button on the edge.for me, this would be class.is it possible guys....?

cheers.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] degake:
You mean something like this style?

Grtz,

Degake
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] donwhann:
yeah, something like that would be sweet.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] donwhann:
ill post a pic so you can see exactly what it is I'm after......
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] johnkst:
Have you seen this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=601552&highlight=clocks

I believe they still 'flip', but the 'digital' ones are probably in the style you are looking for...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] 3lixir:
also you'll find some neon style flip clocks here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=674413
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] donwhann:
hey guys, thanks for the pointers to the threads but im sorted now, degake fixed me up with a very tasty looking digi clock. thanks though......
[HD2 General] Nano3:
while trying to flash the phone... i think i mustve received a text or something (Shame on me for not taking the sim card out) anyways. now my phone is stuck on the tmobile "Stick togehter" screen and will not boot past that. it will not connect via activesync. any help to get my phone back up and running will be greatly appreciated
[HD2 General] Nano3:
its amazing what 3 minutes of searching can do... im a newb... flame on

close thread plz
[HD2 General] dkwolf:
there are guides on how to unbrick it in the rom section.

Dump the rom on a SD card and let it boot up on it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609477

check out 3. in the guide
[HD2 General] djchubbs:
OH MY GOD YOUR SUCH A n00b!!!

That ok for you?

:p
[HD2 General] quasi_mojo:
i love it when people say it :D
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] 4HAN:
hi fellows!

i bought XDA Orbit a few days ago and its my first ever PDA, i m totally new to this windows mobile and stuff like that. i m reading different posts and threads and they are really helping me alot.

the only problem im facing right now is that im a texting freak. i send text messages alot and mostly i forward, so i want to create group of people or atleast need facility to mark multiple recipients for 1 text message (like is available in simple JAVA fones).

i have searched but no significant results were found, ACTULLY I NEED A FREE APPLICATION FOR THIS, so any body can please guide me to the thread in which such application is mentioned, or in any way can help me???

may be it seems small, but its an ISSUE for me, so please help me, i'll be grateful... :) thanx...
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] 4HAN:
still no reply!! :(

guys if u know smthing which can hlp me solving my problem please share it with me... :(
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Aseem479:
Multiple SMS

If You have gprs down load open market, search ther old sap smser. I think that will serve your purpose.
[Droid Eris General] jvward:
Hi All,

I was just wondering I have been using the stock htc mail application to get my company email on my Eris. The application does not have a "all documents" view. This pretty much makes it useless to me because I use a lot of mail rules to move my email into folders as I receive it. I can see I have unread messages but I would have to comb through folders to find the actual mail.

I had this problem while working on the stock 1.56 android release that came with the phone and also with the 2.1 leak.

I was wondering if anyone has encountered this before and has come up with some sort of fix, or has a suggestion for another mail application. Also even if there was a way to show number of unread messages in the folders view that would also work.

Just one more FYI my company email comes through exchange.

Thanks!
[Droid Eris General] Coolcom:
You could try the Touchdown app. I personally did not like it, (also using Exchange) but they offer a free trial period to try it out.
[Droid Eris General] jvward:
Using Touchdown I am having the same issue that I had while using k-9. It pretty much does not work.

I am getting the email OTA Via an exchange server but the email is actually lotus notes based. Its a pretty crummy setup but because my office only supports blackberry it was the only OTA solution I could come up with.

Has anyone used Commontimes - Mnotes with K-9 and got it to work?

If so could you post instructions :)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Digitaltigre:
Hey guys!

Does anyone know if there is a way for the facebook tab for a contact to bring up the facebook app instead of launching the mobile facebook website?

For clarification: bring up a facebook linked contact in sense and click to view their profile, a comment, or an update. m.facebook launches in the browser for me. I would much prefer the facebook app instead.

Thanks!:D
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] gunnyman:
This points out yet another reason to freaking uninstall that facebook app. It doesn't DO much does it? :D
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Digitaltigre:
I like the app and this seems like HTC's fault or maybe Google's. You know how when you have multiple apps duplicating functionality you get to choose which app handles each request and/or set default. Maybe Google needs to add an action for facebook?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Digitaltigre:
Also the notifications that the facebook app fires off link to the mobile website instead of opening the app? What the?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Genjinaro:
No, this fault lies 99.996% on the Facebook app developers.

It's a sorry excuse for an official Facebook application in every right, especially when a 3rd party dev bests it with a limited SDK (See Babbler for Android).
[Desire General] bigf00t:
Hi All.

Sorry to start a new thread but I need help setting up my email accounts.

I have two; a @blueyonder address and a @live.co.uk address.

I seem to have gotten my @live.co.uk account receiving but still unable to send. My blueyonder one will do neither.

I'm using an Orange upgrade Desire and using the HTC mail app.

Please Help :(
[Desire General] tomec83:
hellooo

try to change SMTP server your mobile operator

If you have Orange UK operator smtp.orange.net

For example: smtp.t-zones.sk that is smtp server form Slovak T-Mobile operator
[Desire General] bigf00t:
Thank You!

Thats worked but I have a new problem now :(

With my live.co.uk email, after receiving on the phone, I can still receive the email on my outlook.

But with my blueyonder account, once I've received an email on my phone, it no longer downloads to outlook (and vice versa).

Anything I can do?
[Desire General] EddyOS:
you need to use IMAP, or set it to leave a copy on the server, otherwise once an email is downloded via POP it tends to not be available to other devices
[Desire General] bigf00t:
What is Imap and how does it work?

I am leaving a copy on the server. Both HTC Desire settings and outlook settings state "Leave copy on server" and I've even checked the webmail/server- and the email is still there- unread.

As I say, seems to be working fine with my @live.co.uk address.
[Desire General] bigf00t:
Also just noticed I can't send via a wifi network on either account. Not a huge deal, but strange.
[Desire General] MasDroid:
Try imap4.blueyonder.co.uk for your incoming mail server address and outgoing: smtp.blueyonder.co.uk

Try checking TLS if available by selecting the security type as TLS.
[Desire General] haggisuk99:
Hotmail settings are here

incoming settings

protocol =pop

pop server = pop3.live.com

security type =ssl

server port =995

outgoing settings

login required =ticked

username =hotmail addy ie yourname@hotmail.com

smtp server=smtp.live.com

security type=tls

server port=587

Account name =Hotmail

Your Name =what ever you want it to display
[Desire General] bigf00t:
Thanks everybody. Got everything sorted.

Still can't send from my blueyonder account via wifi but I assume thats something to do with using the orange smtp stuff.
[Off-topic] telegraph0000:
Yep....sheer genius...

http://www.cultofmac.com/ridiculous...ies-on-your-iphone-hands-and-glare-free/38486
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Damn!!!

Only on iphoney world
[Off-topic] Simon_WM:
Very kool,

Cant we mod it to run for WM or Android?
[Off-topic] josefcrist:
because we cant find anything wrong with them.
[Off-topic] Fallen Spartan:
LOL, yeah I can see this catching on and being a big hit :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] flyboyovyick:
That hat was on the Gadget Show!

flyboy