yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pchronos:
Exactly !

The layers appear to be drawn in the following order:

1) Clock background

2) AMPM text

3) Hour hand

4) Minute hand

5) Second hand

6) Hand center dot

Basically, need the second hand drawn between #2 & #3.

BTW, the order of the elements in the manila file is exactly the above.

Perhaps they are drawn in the order they appear ?

Update: Changing the order in the manila file layered the clock elements properly !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rat_2665:
Yes, so it is. Thanks. I'll change the cab. The pictures show the effect, left old, right new. So maybe (as a mad clock cooker ;)) you can add another second hand (or three) at another position, but still with the same rotation period.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] giokou:
Awesome man!

Thanks!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pchronos:
Looks much better.

Posted my TAG watch here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=673886

Also was able to move the AMPM text over to the right for a better match with the real watch.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Speakno3vil:
thanks for ur help. appreciate it. but mine doesn't has the second hand? what shud I do?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] lemonspeakers:
Is it just me, or there's a lot of bad taste around here and on the Leo forums in general. Sorry. Just my honest opinion.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rat_2665:
You have to activate the seconds hand in CHTEditor in Miscellaneous settings/Analog clock/Show second hand.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rat_2665:
"de gustibus non est disputandum"	- there is no disputing about tastes. ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rat_2665:
Clock Modification with 7c60907d_manila

I played at the weekend a little bit with 7c60907d_manila and these are my results.

What you can do:

- change the rotation point for all hands (together or separately) and the position and shape of the background (that can crash with the CHT layouts)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6348729&postcount=17

examples: pchronos http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=673886, tictac0566 http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6367627&postcount=122 and of course my clock ;)

- change the order of the layers of background, AMPM text, hands and central dot by changing the order of the entries in 7c60907d_manila

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6357261&postcount=24

- change the width of the hands by editing the "Size Value" (in extreme 256x256), very good example the Stealth clock by rawrscary http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=674413

EDIT: 3lixir found a formula for the changed width of hands:

Change the width of hand image (best to a multiple of 16).

The "centre value" for the x-axis is half the new width of the hand minus 0.5

The "position value" for the x-axis is 128 minus half the width of the hand.

example: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6361881&postcount=2

- for AMPM text you have to switch in regional settings to AMPM use

and what you cannot do:

- add another functional (second, minute, hour) hand. If you add another part of the clock by copying the entry in 7c60907d_manila and editing the position you can see the image of that part, but it is not animated. If you copy the whole analog clock, only the first entry is used.

Edit: There is a way to add other functional objects (f.e. other second hands) to the clock. I'll explain it in a later new clock project.

If you detect other possibilities, post them. If I didn't mention someone who already made a clock which used these mods I'm sorry, there are so many :rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] 3lixir:
Very nice clocks you have here :)

I've tried changing the width for my clocks without any luck, every other variable works for me except the width of the hands hands, the example you gave (stealth) also doesn't work on mine.

Not a problem with the file since I can move the hands wherever I like and it works fine, I've triple checked I'm changing the right number in "size value" and the image file is the right height and width, even used a fresh 7c file :s
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rat_2665:
I attach my test clock (looks ugly, really not right for this thread ;)). The width of the second hand is changed to 64 pixel and I use it for the wheel. maybe you can look into it. The one point I didn't mention, that I had to compensate for the width in the position value and centre value.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] 3lixir:
I've not tried changing the second hand width yet, what's the difference between the centre values and position values?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rat_2665:
The process for modding the different hands should be the same. For the difference between centre value and position value I still have to make a guess. The centre value describes the rotation centre, position value the general position, but they are depending of and are influenced by one another.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tictac0566:
A small example for the hours and seconds offset - Chronoswiss Régulateur:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rat_2665:
That's a nice one. :) If you post it make at least a link here.

It's a pity, we cannot make more with the m9 files. For animations you have to change the lua files. It would be nice to have for example contrariwise turning wheels, pendulum, 3D rotation (like a globe) or different speeds for elements. Maybe in the future, if co0kie has too much time.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tictac0566:
Yeah, more alternations would be indeed fun... but I am not that much into programming stuff.

I think the Chronoswiss needs some fine tuning, will say, I don´t really like the handles as they are... if I find the time and if I think they look nice, I will post the files, but not before...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] 3lixir:
Thanks to you my Big Ben clock finally works, hopefully a lot more nice clocks will be released soon as a result, would also be good if people started including the 7C file with every clock by default even if there are no modifications, this would save having to use the restore hands cab :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rat_2665:
3lixir (he was faster in posting :)) found a formula for the changed width of hands:

First change the width of hand image (best to a multiple of 16).

the "centre value" for the x-axis is half the new width of the hand minus 0.5

the "position value" for the x-axis is 128 minus half the width of the hand.

You can see the example here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6361881&postcount=2

Thanks for this solution.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] lewrydiboys:
Very good job.Thank you.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] radzi:
very nice job... I'd like to see more of this..

thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dan138zig:
I installed the john arnold one and now my phone display is screwed! The clock is digital and it shows 00:00. other area screwed too. Anyway to fix this? Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] zjh1cyx:
Thanks for sharing!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rat_2665:
Did you install the right clock for your CHT version? The failure you described seems like this. For a possible solution look here..

Thanks for your thanks. Maybe there are some more modern but real clocks with tradition in the future.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] gwelwhir:
Elegant clocks! Thanks for your efforts!

Since you also appreciate traditional clocks, may I ask if you could prepare one with the astronomical clock in Prague? :)

Wiki has a very nice close-up of the dial here ;)

Regards,
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rat_2665:
It is an impressive clock but i think over the possibilities of manila/Sense. Especially for the movement of the sun (like in the animation) I don't see any solution. Sorry.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] gwelwhir:
I see. Thanks anyway.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hojadereyes:
I am using the Ulm clock with CHT 2.0.0 in my "astronomical" screen.

It is really beautiful and works fine.

Thank you very much for your work :-)

Best regards
[HD2 General] grott:
Has anybody got Bak2u Phonebak GPS working on the hd2
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] xboxhaxorz:
I have a htc diamond 2 with sense on it coming from the htc pro with touchflo. I was wondering if this phone has sense as i just bought it on ebay.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] eghoti1:
as far as I know, it's solely TouchFlo. Would be nice if Sense made it's way to Advantage ROMs, but development isn't as frequent these days with our phones.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] xtep:
HTC Sense uses opengl and it cannot run smoothly without a hardware accelerated opengl driver for the device.

As far as there is no hw opengl driver for Athena devices you won't see any ROM with Sense on Athena.
[Hero CDMA General] ronnienyc:
Just curious, as that is why I am not putting the latest FreshToast v1 on my phone - I use the camera every day...

So, are there any overclocked ROMs with the camera?? That would be great!
[Hero CDMA General] mrcharlesiv:
Try looking HERE.
[Hero CDMA General] wcasdf:
LOL!! Love it
[Hero CDMA General] Papa Smurf151:
lmao or this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=668905
[Hero CDMA General] ronnienyc:
OK, so I am supposed to read 10,000 pages of random comments about the custom ROMs instead of asking?

I have searched by the way, and found no definitive answer. If it's obvious and you know the answer, why not post "no" or "yes" instead of the wise-ass reply?

And if the answer is not obvious - well, that's why I posed the question.
[Hero CDMA General] frazmanw:
WOW! That must be new.... there is a search on here?
[Hero CDMA General] obelisk79:
putting it simply, if there was an overclocked rom with working camera, everyone would copy that and have the same thing. then it would be easy to find one. did you see any roms on the front page with working camera and overclock?
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
ill hijack this thread...id like to see a stable 2.1 rom with everything working but stripped of sense totally, can it happen? ;)
[Hero CDMA General] robchaos:
Only if you run a 1.5 rom.

I released a modified boot.img and wlan.ko that you can patch gumbo 1.5c rom with.

you can find it here http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-hero-roms-hacks/10138-gumbo-1-5c-overclock.html

I made it for my own personal use and just put it out there for anyone who might want it. All I did was apply the patch to the boot.img from gumbo 1.5c tweaker edition then flashed it to my phone. I was already running gumbo 1.5c tweaker edition so it has only been tested to work flashed over that.

It most likely would flash just fine over any 1.5 rom, but it will add gumbos custom low memory killer and a script that modifies the cpu scaling. If you use it you can't use setcpu. The rom already does what setcpu does.

If you do want it, flash at your own risk, and make sure to backup first.

I could release an overclocked 1.5 kernel that does not use gumbo, or is based off another rom if there is any demand for it, but I think with 2.1 around the corner, and so many almost fully functional 2.1 roms out there, the only people that would even be interested are those who can't run a 2.1 rom due to audio loss issues. that is not too many.
[Hero CDMA General] obelisk79:
I heard the iAndroid 4G was found left in a bar incognito... I want one!

::ROFL::
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
id buy a "cough" iphone if it were running a fully working port of android. ;)
[Hero CDMA General] justinisyoung:
no, it won't happen till htc releases the .29 kernel source. though you could overclock and have it on 1.5 working, i'm pretty sure.

and for you guys who keep telling him to search, at least give him an answer. i understand how anoying it is to see all these threads... but really. at least still help out.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
im pretty sure pancake 1.5 is already tweaked with gbhil's custom kernel. you can also use autokiller on extreme mode and make that rom fly! :D

im running it and i love it, best rom ive used so far.
[Hero CDMA General] robchaos:
I compiled the oc patch into a 1.5 boot.img based off of gumbo 1.5c tweaker. Post #9 in this thread!

I am getting similar benchmarks as a OC 2.1 rom w/o JIT.

3.1 MFLOPS on linpack

28-29 fps on neocore not killing any tasks

6535 ms on benchmark Pi.

Stock 1.5 rom was

26 fps with all tasks killed

2.36 MFLOPs linpack

10635 ms benchmark pi
[Hero CDMA General] ronnienyc:
Thanks for the info obelisk, justin and obchaos.

Now, was that so hard? ;-)

For the rest of you, just because the search function does not yield an answer does not mean the answer is not out there, now does it?

I had better not see any of you ever posting a question on here ;-)

In any case, I remember 2.1 did not have the camera working for a while, then someone fixed it, right? So it seems that this is not a crazy question to ask.

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[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
90% of the 2.1 roms have a fully functional camera now.
[Hero CDMA General] mrinehart93:
Try my ROM :)
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
thanks i may give it a go. ;)
[Hero CDMA General] ronnienyc:
Yes, which is why I was asking about the 2.1 roms with overclocking...I thought maybe one or more of them would have camera working by now.

Thanks.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
i dunno about overclocked ones. you could use autokiller off the market to free up a ton of ram. i know setcpu does not work on 2.1
[Hero CDMA General] bmxrider4444:
The reason we went from having no camera to having camera on 2.1 ROMS was because the kernel for .29 we had the drivers and stuff, but on .27, the one we can over clock, we didn't have these drivers, toastcfh and others modded and ported the drivers to make them work, but never got the camera working, therefore no camera in over clocking ROM, but Camera working in every other ROM because they are using the .29 kernel, that clearer for you?
[Hero CDMA General] chaos67731:
Q:Is this a forum?

A:YES

Q:Should people ask questions here?

A:YES

Q: Do people come here to help out others and to be helped?

A:YES & YES

Q:What was the point of your answer?

A:To give an answer with out answering the question?

I dont mean to piss anyone off (but at the same time dont care if I look like an ass!), Why do that? If you have an answer, help the guy out. Sometimes after search for an hour its better to ask.

But to the question, I dont know & I dont think so on 2.1.but would be nice to see it in DC or Fresh soon. :)
[Hero CDMA General] Bad--Dog:
yea whenever a question is asked around here that could be found if said asker was willing to pour through thousands of pages, which im usually not, there seems to be a race to be the first, how shall i say "asshole", to answer with "use the search function". yea theres a search function wow sometimes it doesnt answer what we are looking for sometimes its just nice to have someone willing to tell u what they already know and most likely found out by someone telling them to begin with. personally i dont give a damn what any of u think i can be friends with whoever wants to be or all of u can kiss my ass just the same
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
welcome to xda, enjoy the ride. ;)
[Hero CDMA General] ronnienyc:
Yes, much clearer now Mr. bmx. Thank you.
[Hero CDMA General] mrcharlesiv:
They just put it on last night I believe.

To the OP, the first post of the ROM thread will say if the camera works or not. To answer your question - no. None of the OC'd ROMs have a working camera.

Sorry if you feel like I was bashing you.
[Hero CDMA General] troyboytn:
I couldnt agree with this more. When I have a question, I do try to search but everyone who has been here long enough knows that the search function doesnt always return the answer we are looking for and or returns 10-20 conflicting answers. Haven said this, if a newb has a question (that is not totally stupid) in which I know the answer, then I am more than willing to help. These questions are 1000% better than the endless 2.1 rumor threads, and mindless threads that should be left to an alternative social site.
[Hero CDMA General] kyouko:
Wtf is a search? o.O how new is that thing?
[Hero CDMA General] bmxrider4444:
NP just trying to help out!
[Hero CDMA General] ronnienyc:
I do not feel bashed, just that most of the original responses are childish. As a result what we have here is a thread where 25 out of 30 responses are useless - instead of a simple 5-post thread where the question gets answered and everyone moves on...

Anyway, thanks to those who helped.

p.s. I thought xda was above this nonsense, but I guess I was wrong :-(
[Hero CDMA General] bob2300nx:
Seriously /thread....

Good post but you forgot to put that there are a good 10-20 of the same lame "jokes" about the search function.
[Hero CDMA General] mrcharlesiv:
You know what? You're right. I'll admit when I'm wrong & I was wrong.
[Hero CDMA General] ronnienyc:
Good man, mrcharlesiv. I'm over it :)
[Hero CDMA General] toastcfh:
wow... didnt this thread go nowhere quick :rolleyes: anyhow until we manage to backport camera to 2.6.27 were in a waiting game. AFAIK im the only guy on this quest. a lot was put into my eclair .27 kernel when it was all we had. now that we have 2.6.29 no one is really interested in doing the dirty work to get camera working. its all about the next system build. granted not everyone is a C guru and neither am i. but ive never given up on the 2.6.27 kernel because ive know from the day flipz got the first .29 kernel leaked to him. that we would have camera but we were once again at the feet of sprint and htc to get source for it. the truth is with the .27 kernel source with enough time and effort we could either forward port to .29 like maejrep did before we had .27 source. or we could put a gang load of effort into backporting the .29 camera driver to .27. second option is the one ive chosen and i hope to beat htc to the punch :p
[Hero CDMA General] tkirton:
I'll answer the question for you.

Any 1.5 Rom can be overclocked with the camera working (because the source for 1.5 is available).

However, if you are looking for 2.1 Roms that are overclocked with a camera, it doesn't exists. The reason is that 2.1 requires Linux 2.6.29. We only have the source for Linux 2.6.27, so there are references in the camera app for 2.1 that won't work in our sourced kernel. You'll have to wait for the official 2.1 release, then HTC to release the source code to the public before you see overclocking and a working camera.
[Hero CDMA General] roadster92:
I have tried your OC mods, It is working great !! The only thing that I am having problem with is to get it working with JIT. Have you tried JIT enable?

:)
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
I dont think jit will work in the 1.5 rom. (i think thats what the mod was for 1.5c) i didnt read back far enough.

But if im right, which im not 100%, jit works on 1.6 and up. I think you can get the aosp rom 1.6 and put an OC kernel on it and then use the dusted donuts jit files.
[Hero CDMA General] notasimpleway:
I wouldn't mind a kernel without the script. :D
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
Heres the kernel he most likely used.. Since he did use the 1.5c rom.

http://forum.androidcentral.com/51730-post2.html
[Hero CDMA General] bmxrider4444:
And thats why you are awesome! If i had any idea how to help i would, sadly i haven't learned any C yet so not even going to try, and believe you me Toast as soon as i have a steady income you will get some really good coffee!
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
I took pre-ap computer programming.. I wish i had paid alot more attention. Or kept some of my paper work from high school.
[Hero CDMA General] robchaos:
All it is, is in /system/init.d a file called gumbo.sh that has 2 lines.

one for the low mem killer, and one that sets the cpu scaling. It is exactly the same function as using the settings on setcpu. You can get into the file and edit the cpu scaling line to read ondemand, performance, or msm7k to change the CPU scaling to suit your needs.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redesignni:
Anyone know if there is any of these available for the X10?

Cheers

Robert
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ludovic.audoin:
I just bought a Simore Platinum but I did not find to test it. I will do that in the following days.

BR
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Astral07:
how does that look like, pic?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ludovic.audoin:
http://www.simore.ch/en/two_sim_cards_in_one_mobile/dual_sim_card_platinum.php
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bryanfuria:
Does anyone know if okay with italian operator h3g?thanks
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] QuadESL63:
I guess to use this I need 2 micro-SIMs?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sexyvito:
well a micro sim is nothing more then a cuted normal sim right?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mith500:
does it work on the x10?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] assangflexx:
And, is it working???

Really want to know :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fjnty5:
two sims would be awesome..let us know..i am eager to buy one
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greatermushasi:
any good news??

:)

can xperia x10 use this stuff?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robbyf66:
why does one need 2 sims?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bikram:
To cheat on their girl friend or wife ;)

Just kidding.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greatermushasi:
hei..

that's a nice idea..

hahaha

but i don't use for it.

i want to use 2 sim card because in my country some operator have good at SMS

and other operator have a good internet connection..

:)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] proyaz:
is it working ??

just curious :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mith500:
any feedback on dual sim adapters for the x10?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erreesse:
+1 news ?

positive feedback?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qureyoon:
It seems that this will work with X10 :)

Test result for Sony-Ericsson Xperia-X10

... /en/mobile_phone_accessory/Sony-Ericsson/Xperia-X10.html (can't post the link since i'm a new users)

Can any other members confirm this?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheoKondak:
So here is the question.Untill what speed can the cardreader of the Hero support?Class 2,4 or 6?Is there any point on getting a card above lvl2 for a phone anyway?I mean right now i have the default card on it and still i can see movies,photos play music etc pretty good without problems.Why should i choose class 4 or even class 6?

At the moment i found class 2 micro SD 16 giga for 25 euro and class 6 8giga for 19-20.Which should i pick?I am pretty sure that i can use even 16giga of data space but i am not sure if i can use higher speed rates than class 2.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ludolf71:
You can choose any class of SD card you want, but the class 6 is faster and gives better performance. Trancend also have a 16GB class 6 card.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheoKondak:
well i know that class 6 is faster.What i ask is if Hero can handle the speed or Class 4 or Class 6 and if there will be any real diference in performance.If yes in what application, since music , pics or even movies play good enouph in even class 2 cards.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ludolf71:
You will notice it if you use Apps2SD and have a swap partition on your SD-card. Otherwise you won't notice the difference I guess.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
This is a common misconception. A class 6 card is not necessarily faster than a class 2 card, because all that the class signifies is the *minimum* guaranteed sustained speed that a card can be written at.

It is perfectly possible for a class 2 card to outperform the minimums required for a class 6 card, so that a good quality class 2 card can be faster than a poor quality class 6 card.

My advice when buying an SD card is to look for independent reviews where the actual speeds are tested. For example, see here.

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] btdag:
Very interesting :)