yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
yeah it is in there already, that was one of the changes made that gave us the battery boost.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mblaster:
Hi Myn, seems to be a great little tool that you forged here. Unfortunately it refuses to work on htc nike with your latest release of myn's warm donut, because this phone fails to be a vogue/kaiser/polaris on the initial check.

I don't see any reason, why this shouldn't work on nike (overclocking works there too). It would be nice if you could include the nike in your list of valid devices. If you want someone to test it before you release it, I would do it.

mblaster
[Touch CDMA Android Development] myn:
You've got a private message :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] manu33xtro:
Hi Myn,

Very good work. I like very much to change lcd density !!

I don't know if the overclock works for Polaris : I tested with 452 (mainboard is 400) but I doesn't see the difference...

Thanks again.

Cheers.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] myn:
FYI updated Rogue Tools to ver 1.1

Changelog:

04/27/2010

Added device support for Nike

04/24/2010

Version 1
[Touch CDMA Android Development] slow88lx:
Everyone should give 428x320 @ 144 DPI a shot...dare I say it's NOT blurry. :eek:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fldash:
How do you even get 428x320 resolution? Hex edit NBH?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] slow88lx:
Grab the 320x480 ROM and flash it with the 320x428 NBH....which can be gotten here: Index of /vogue/files
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
with cupcake the bottom of the screen would be cut off on some apps with this resolution, have you found that to still be the case?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fldash:
Nevermind, I have tried it... I still prefer 320x480
[Touch CDMA Android Development] myn:
x2.

It's my new fav.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrono:
Best way i've found to check if it works is to jack it up to 500+ and run the game radiant lite, if there's very little to no lag that it works
[Touch CDMA Android Development] slow88lx:
Stuff fits better than 240x320...like the call screens...you get full access to apps with the size.....it's not blurry. I haven't found anything wrong yet.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] myn:
Updated first post with some CaffeineMark Benchmarks.

Before (400mhz) and After (500mhz)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] grktaurus83:
Does this mean you'll start releasing builds in this resolution?

Haha!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] DmK75:
CPU Clocks

Hi, Myn!

You can correct selector slider of CPU clocks in this tool?

Because, clocks in program not correspond to real:

"400" is ~384

"500" is ~480

"550" is ~528 and e t.c.

My Polaris running perfect on real 528MHz without any side effects.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] SuperJMN:
I have set my Polaris to 550 MHz (in the tool) and it's now working... I'll see if it's stable :)*

Thanks for the info!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] DmK75:
I see CPU speed in "Quick System Info" tool:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Petrica:
With Android Incubus RLS8 on Polaris,at 510 Mhz work very fine !

Thank you for your nice app !
[Touch CDMA Android Development] computerwiz_222:
I was just about to post a thread on how I can make my android Touch more responsive. This worked like a charm.

Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] leadman:
i have used the program, however everytime i reboot and go back into rogue tools, the CPU speed has been set back to 400mhz....i dont know why? can anyone help
[Touch CDMA Android Development] xport:
Its broken for now, so use the nbh editor to overclock.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=689812
[Touch CDMA Android Development] leadman:
ok so i downloaded it and created and saved my own nbh file, now i could not find anywhere how to upload that to the phone?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mikurej95:
Thanks myn!! keep it coming please :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] khoury4:
I purchased this app to run on my old ATT Tilt a couple of years ago. I have since upgraded to the Tilt2, but the app is not WVGA compatible. I contacted the developer recently, but they have no plans to update the software.

Anybody able/willing to update this program?

I paid for the original license, but I'm willing to throw up another $20 for someones trouble. I've seen a few other people inquiring about this program as well, so maybe others would like to contribute/motivate.

Any takers?
[HD2 General] dailydriver:
Hey guys, I'm in Madison, WI and I'm always connecting to Edge about after a day or so from restoring my phone.

If I clear my memory on the phone and start over. I'll get 3G for a day of fast browsing and then it turns into Edge only. I mean I see the "E" up there only and the connection is slow...

This is frustrating me. I'm not sure if it's the service or my phone. The wife's HD2 seems to be getting 3G okay though.
[HD2 General] jfmckenna:
hey give this a try but also realize that 3g eats your battery much faster.

settings-->wireless controls-> click on phone not the on/off slider-->Band-->change from auto to wcdma. if you dont get a signal after this switch it back to auto changing it to wcdma tells your phone to only use H or 3g. personally i keep mine on gsm which locks in edge, makes my battery last a little longer!
[HD2 General] Tref:
Why does HTC continue to put the USB connector, and especially the 3.5 headphone jack on the bottom of the phone? In this configuration you have to put the device in your pocket upside down, and to pull it out you're bound to press a button. And when you're not connected the jacks are just little more than traps. So why, when HTC does so many things well and is even innovative to some degree, fail to see the downside (no pun) to putting two extremely large holes, which are critical to the use of the phone, on the bottom of the device?
[HD2 General] StarLog:
I guess so the 3rd party dealers can make them, I just got this for my office use.

http://www.amazon.com/USB-Cradle-Ba...3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1271816381&sr=8-3
[HD2 General] Tref:
Not much chance of listening to your music in that configuration, huh?
[HD2 General] lquigley:
Cradle

I have 1 similar, mine has 3.5 headphone jack in cradle, & output on back of cradle, also usb port. It rings through earphones & phonespeaker, Or external speakers. I love it. Don't know if this 1 does all that. Quig
[HD2 General] lemonspeakers:
personally i find it better with it on the bottom. Makes more sense. I would hate to see a wire over my screen listineing ot music.
[HD2 General] Tref:
You couldn't place the cord around the back side? With an L-shaped plug it would naturally fall the way the cord was pointed anyway, whether that was to the back or either side.

It's a lame orientation that makes little sense, imho. I have a Nokia N85 that I used between Winmo devices. Having the phone and power jacks on the top works very well (even if Symbian doesn't :rolleyes: )
[HD2 General] Sentinel196:
Having the audio jack on top would probably see them sued by Apple :p
[HD2 General] kenkiller:
It's just selfish to assume that HTC should pander to your specific needs. If it really irks you so much, maybe you shouldn't have bought it in the first place.

I prefer it on the bottom, out of the way, good for 3rd party cradles.

In the end, it's impossible to please everyone. Take it or leave it.
[HD2 General] concreteman:
bottom works well for me too

One downside of this phone is that it struggles to make it through a day on a full charge. I drive a lot, so i can put it in a holder and plug the charger into the bottom. I also carry it in a horizontal belt holder. If it's in your pocket, does it matter if it's upside down?
[HD2 General] CRO_Misho:
I agree with concreteman.

HD2 is intended to be a business phone, so you will find a lot of them charging in the cars.

I also sometimes listen to the music in the car, and it certainly looks better and more graceful when both the charger and the audio cable are connected at the bottom.

Previously, my Touch HD looked like a Borg in the cradle with all those wires :)
[HD2 General] leftkats:
being a user oh the Touch HD for a year, when i swapped over to the hd2 i found the connections at a much more convinient place than the hd's
[HD2 General] ala380:
I actually prefer them to be on the bottom as well. When I put the phone in my pocket I like to put it in upside down so that when I pull it out it's right side up. It's just more convenient for me and I don't feel like the wires are in the way.
[HD2 General] d0ug:
i prefer the plugs on the bottom, Ive always put my phone into my pocket top down, so when i reach in and grab it, it is already in my hand in the orientation that i am going to use it. having the plugs, esp the headphone plug on the bottom is better for me because when using headphones with the phone in my pocket the cord comes straight out.
[HD2 General] Spl4tt:
tref, i dont know what weird person u are, but i need the plugs on the bottom side of the phone, i hate them on the upper side like many other phones have now..

if the plug would be on the upper side i would need to rotate the phone first, before i could use it, else not
[HD2 General] lemonspeakers:
I really don't know what you guys are doing on your hd2, but I am a power user on my hd2 and my battery will end up to about ~35+/- 10~ by the end of the day. Thats from 8AM to 9PM at night.

I heavily multitask from google maps, browsing, listening to music on lunch breaks, movie clips of my next design from CAD to clients, text, check email CONSTANTLY, take random pictures with CAMERA for my next CAD inspiration...

And the list goes on.

It must certainly be the ROM and Radio you guys are using. Until then your HD2 will suffer badly like when I first got the phone and complained like a Biotch!

I used to use Duttys HG v1.2, and things only got better flashing 2.09 radio with Clean EX roms.

Everyone's hd2 is different so ymmv.
[HD2 General] MalekoUK:
I personally also prefer all the sockets at the bottom :)
[HD2 General] the_scotsman:
I always have my phone in my pocket upside down, so when I pull it out it's already in my hand the way I use it and I don't have to flip it around to use it.....and I would HATE to have the earphone jack on top...that's just silly in my opinion....I love it the way it is...
[HD2 General] 10332007:
I put my phone in my pocket top towards my feet so when I pull it out its right side up already... so having the plugs on the bottom makes sense.

My computer is under my desk, so charging my phone while it sits on my desk works, if the jacks were on top my phone would be upside down... Having the plugs on top makes no sense to me.
[HD2 General] kenkiller:
The verdict is clear.

In the process of claiming HTC is stupid, he has proven that he himself is the odd one out. :D
[HD2 General] Tref:
d4rksorrow/kenkiller,

Never said HTC was weird or stupid. Didn't say anyone else was either. But I will say you two appear to be still wet behind the ears.

It does appear that I'm in the minority here, and that's fine. I'll stick with keeping my phone in my pocket right side up, and enjoying mp3 players and other phones with a headphone jack on the top. Takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.
[HD2 General] kenkiller:
No worries, it takes all kind of lame people to make the world go round....I presume that word can be used to describe you since you were the one who called it a lame idea in the first place? :D
[HD2 General] ephestione:
+1 for bottom, I always keep my phone upside down in my pocket anyway. When watching tv series it's sideways, so right or left doesn't change much, and when in the car connected to the radio, it's better to have the jack wire coming from the lower side... same goes for the usb cable from the lighter charger obviously. I would hate for the jacks to be on the upper side, yes you're definitely the minority :D
[HD2 General] Tref:
For whatever reason I've always kept my phones and PDAs right side up in my pocket. When I reach in and pull it out it's in my hand in the way that I use it and I don't have to dodge buttons, which are most often on the bottom, with my thumb to avoid doing something unintended. But I certainly seem to be one of the few and maybe the only one of those who have taken part in this conversation, that does it this way. And that of course would be the reason why the position of jacks and cables seem right or wrong to each of us. Apparently HTC has done their research and they know what the majority of people prefer.

kenkiller if you're childish enough to turn a conversation about the orientation of jacks and cables into something personal then you'll have to do it on your own. This wasn't meant to be a personal attack on anyone, and there is a difference between describing the placement of jacks as lame, and saying someone is lame because of an idea they have that you don't happen to agree with. Of course we all have a right to our opinions, but ideas are better exchanged and conversations last longer when needless namecalling is left out in the playground.
[HD2 General] robinVerdegaal:
4 characters: A2DP

After two consecutive phone usb ports were damaged because of movement in my pocket while the headphones were connected I switched to A2DP, bluetooth stereo.

And I never want to go back again.

Listenning to music is often only one of the things I'm doing with my mobile. Browse the internet, into pocket, check mail, back into pocket, answer phonecall, back into pocket. It's all so much easier without wires.
[HD2 General] lonelykatana:
Dont most people have their phone in their pocket upside down?

I find it allot easier, because that way its allways the right way up when you take it out :D

Having said that,I cant take it out... Mine is dead.
[HD2 General] Tref:
Apparently, yes :)
[HD2 General] quasi_mojo:
awww! i feel for you lonelykatana :(

imho, i really dont care where the connections are, as long as their robust and dont pick up all the little fluffy bumf in the bottom of your pocket, im happy...

bluetooth headphones and a bluetooth car stereo FTW...

who needs wires?

now all we need is a 'why cant HTC build a phone powered by kenetic energy?' thread...

**because some people would complain their wrist hurts more than usual ;)**
[HD2 General] rumpleforeskin:
if you dont like which side the jacks are on you can always move them to the other side.

Use a screen rotation app to rotate the display 180'

only down side then will be the button will be at the top, and err upside down.

but apart from that its all gravy :D

ps,

i much prefer the jacks on the bottom, far more useful in many different circumstances
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Which is perfect, as you usually take it out to do something on it, when you grab it you press a button so by the time you have your hand up the screen is already on waiting for you, and that time is even long enough to pass the short delay between power on and screen being responsive, so you can even unlock it at the first try :D

Same here, definitely bottom, never could understand why put the connectors anywhere else.
[HD2 General] Tref:
Clever suggestion, I actually think that might work! :)

Folks I'm not really complaining, since I don't have a vested interest in this model. I don't even have an HD2 yet. :eek:

But I've probably had more than my share of phones (HTC and others), and PDAs and have had the chance to use them in all sorts of configurations. I guess I should have just started a poll, so that there was less chance I might offend someone with an idea that could appear to be sacrilege to their way of thinking.
[HD2 General] Tref:
And if the button you press happens to be the end call key? Remember this is not directed only to the HD2, so even if inadvertently pushing end call isn't possible on this model, it is on others. I do like the slider switch on my TP2 but I've never actually tested to see if I could end an incoming call with the end call button while it's ringing. I know it has worked in the past on other phones and it's this sort of thing that I think would be avoided by not having to dodge the buttons to pull the phone of out of a pocket while it is upside down due to a headphone cord.
[HD2 General] Alpha0ero:
Correct me if I am wrong

but weren't most headphone jacks on previous smart phones (not HTC) typically on the top? I don't think Apple has a patent on it. To me, it makes no sense to put the headphone jack on the bottom of the phone.:mad: Come to think of it, I don't remember HTC having a separate headphone jack until recently. The USB port, is fine at the bottom but the headphone jack needs to be moved.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] myn:
[APP] RogueTools v1.1 - [Overclock & Change Screen Density] - [Updated: 04/27/2010]

I now present you with RogueTools v1.1.

Summary:

This application is designed for the Vogue, Kaiser, Polaris and Nike devices. It allows you to dynamically overclock your device as well as change the screen density.

Requirements:

This application requires write access to your /system so this will only work on EXT2 and NAND installations.

Overclocking Notes:

Overclocking results will vary. Based upon the beta test results everyone was able to Overclock to 500mhz and have very stable results. Above this results really were mixed. Give it a try, I'd love to hear your results.

To download, search in the market for "RogueTools"

Screenshots:

Before (400mhz) and After (500mhz) CaffeineMark Benchmark

HUGE thanks to all of the beta testers. You guys did an outstanding job!:

citrit, cp0020, damianiw, DmK75, dzo, GriloVirante, Incubus26jc, inertone, jnadke, mblaster, Millence, mssmison, paipo, pyrator, scouzer, vrflyer

Disclaimer:

As always, I’m not responsible for anything that happens to your phone while using these files.

Future Versions:

I'm looking for some creative ideas on other additions you'd like to see added to this application. So if you have some thoughts, please let me know.

Changelog:

04/27/2010

Added device support for Nike

04/24/2010

Version 1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Awesome. Can't wait to try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cXhristian:
Will this affect the battery life?

Right now the battery is bad enough with android, but it does sound really nice.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] assangflexx:
Nice,

will try it out :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
Overclocking will always effect battery life negatively. Under-clocking will increase it. :D

You don't always need your Kaiser running at 400 Mhz, but I think Android throttles it anyway.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
When sleeping it underclocks to ~200Mhz (it seems that "cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep BogoMIPS" displays something around the clock value).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dude6595:
nice work bro...works great on my tilt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tukang PDA:
could you upload the update.tar ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
Can't You read?

To download, search in the market for "RogueTools"!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] liveskelet:
Awesome.

Kaiser

Benchmark

400MHz : 91 points

475MHz : 130 points

500MHz : 140 points
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
Nice!

Appears to work on my tilt!

Nice Job!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
600Mhz : Called fire brigade.... :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] myn:
Are you serious?

I may have to raise the max threshold for you Kaiser users. 700???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tonyc0642:
Holy crap this works awesome. Tried it on Polymod 2.1d and it kinda blew my mind. I've only overclocked to 450mhz so far, but it's a night and day difference. Thanks a ton myn, great work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
I've set mine to 500 Mhz, any chanche for overheating (when going higher then 500)?

(I've deleted some .apk packages (voice dialer,...) and together with this tweak it runs really great, almost 40MB free ram whe killing all apps)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jt131:
Great app. Can someone give a bit more info about the "increase screen dpi" option? When and why would I want to use this feature? What is a "good" value?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tonyc0642:
I can't say for sure since I'm not the one that developed this, but it seems to me that it should actually save your battery since it underclocks when the phone is sleeping, unless of course you're actively using it a lot while at 500mhz or more, in which case you'd use your battery quicker and run the risk of overheating. Like I said, I can't be certain, so you may want to wait for a reply from myn himself on it.

It should be set at 120dpi by default, at least it was for me. The dpi is "dots per inch," which is pretty much what it sounds like. If you make the value higher, it will make things larger. If you make it smaller, well you get the idea. I played around with it some to check it out, but I'm happy with the default dpi.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jt131:
Thanks tony. I guess it could be useful for applications that do not work correctly in Kaiser's QVGA, like iGO for example. Would a lower dpi setting compensate for iGO's larger resolution design?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hardik119:
Reducing the DPI makes everything small so iGO might work but it will make reading everything harder.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
Who needs to read, so long as you can see the map and hear the voice commands?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jt131:
Well, I tried reducing the dpi and RogueTools asked for a restart but then my phone wouldn't boot. It stuck on the pulsing Nexus "X". Maybe I went a bit too low on the setting as I thought 75dpi would be a good choice. I had to reinstall android to overcome the problem so reduce dpi with caution everyone...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Nah I was just joking, excellent app tho, saves loads of time, the threshold is fine where it is, although I think a lower limit on dpi might be a good idea.

Keep up the excellent work :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DmK75:
think 106 dpi is optimal for lower limit, height 360 px = 320 in this dpi.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] the-nj:
device freezing

hey

really nice app and i love it but i wouldnt use it for ppl using their android the whole time because i have the impression that after a few times sleep the phone freezes when waking it up from sleeping then i get a white or colerful display and thats it...

and i think it is connected with another problem i had

when i used it the first time and changed the density i tried to reboot and it wouldnt start just give me the lines wakeup_power (0->0) and then something like a timestamp

i couldnt solve this so far just overwrote the /data with an older backup...

nick
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
I have it once, but it didn't freeze. I checked it with adb and it was alive. Probably just some other thing (Home Activity?) freeze and that's why there was white screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] byron0318:
let me try that.... fire brigade on stand by now:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] myn:
Thanks for being verbose. I appreciate this when I am trying to debug things like this.

I find this actually interesting. RogueTools actually doesn't touch anything in data from an Overclocking or Density perspective. It's all system level changes.

Dare I say it, if you could, OC it to the same clockspeed again and see if you get the same results. I would really be interested in hearing your results.

Thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] myn:
Has anyone found the lowest threshold for density changing?

I'd like to make this the starting point for the next version so people don't mistakenly put it to low.

Thanks