yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
you could try the tar with haret but it will probably run slow. Let me know if you do. It may not work
[Touch CDMA Android Development] silverxj:
Youve made my son very happy!! Thank you...now his vouge matches my hero running freshhhhhh 2.0d!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Actually I've tried 4a and it worked for me. However it was harder to get the widgets to show. I had to turn off Wifi and reboot the phone and then to the clear-data-and-force-stop procedure.

When I did the 4b I made sure the widgets showed up before installing the wifi update.

It is very likely that adding Wifi support consumes more memory which makes it slower than intended. I haven't tried running it without the wifi update yet but I wouldn't be surprised if it would be noticable difference in speed.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
I just want to make sure the difference in speed will be worth it as I went back to Myn's build with one of your themes for the time being.....While I am very happy with that, I do love having the latest and greatest, soooo....

Running the sense build using Haret, I would say it takes about 5 - 10 seconds just to open up Gmail. How quick does this or other programs open if I were to change to NAND. I just want to know if it will really be worth me going in that direction or the speed bump will not be that much different......
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
just wait for next release. It will be faster and more stable.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Thanks, will do! Any idea how long I will be waiting???
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
about 3 years lol kidding
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
sometime tonight if all goes well.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
In 3 years we will probably be dual booting WM7 and Android on our Vogue's. lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Ha, take that CP! 2 years and 364 days sooner than you suggested!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
lol you do know i was kidding
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
lol, you do know I was kidding as well, right?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
yeah. im just trying to make 800 posts real quick hahahaha
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
lmao!!

thats how hardcore posters do it!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
Guys lets remember sense UI is currently shipped on phones with processors 3 to 4x faster than ours. I have ran this build and for our hardware specs it is running pretty damn well. It is a work in process. Be glad we have some kick ass fellow members who put in the elbow grease it takes to do all this.

Hell of a job Incubus. I could not think of a better person to take over this build. No need to apologize for hiccups along the way. Thanks in advance for everything you will make this build.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
hell yeah!!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
you said that perfectly man.

800!!!!!:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] acegolfer:
2 questions.

1. Is this build based on Mssisson's Eclair 2.1?

2. If I use gmail and gcalendar, how does the Sense widget interact with them? I see HTC mail and HTC calendar in the screenshot. Am I better off sticking with Myn's build?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sak211l:
Ok i will let you know downloading now
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
updated build. I will keep working on it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
Do we need to wipe data? I am going to since I usually do anyway but for others it might be nice to keep data.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
you can keep data.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
im like you. i always wipe my data when updating. its a habit. but this doesnt look like anything MAJOR!! so i think it would be safe to keep data
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
im pulling the build. It still isnt stable enough for release. I thought it was. Sorry to whoever downloaded it
[Touch CDMA Android Development] CyCLoBoT:
Thanks for the update. I was about to flash the RLS 2 but will hold off for now. Can't wait to try it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Devildog8791:
GPS?

Is GPS supposed to be working? I am running the 3.42.50 radio on the Alltel/Verizon network.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
you have to turn it on in settings
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Devildog8791:
I turned it on in settings and Google Maps could not find my location.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
hmm... works for me
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Devildog8791:
Is there anything special I need to do before I flash this rom? I just flashed back to Vin's 6.5 rom and got the GPS working on it. I haven't had GPS on any of the Android roms.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Devildog8791:
You have an Alltel Touch? If so, what radio are you running?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
Im running verizon agps. 3.42.50

I pulled this build because its not as stable as it could be. sorry
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jadenj5:
Re: Incubus26Jc's Sense 2.1 with Live Wallpapers [removed temporarily]

I flashed the update and its working better the your first release it seems to be faster and even more stable it still reload the home screen if I jump strate to the home that's the only issue... do you know if the touch sensors hack is working??

Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
yes the sensors hack is working. Try it with armadillo roll
[Touch CDMA Android Development] corypaul:
i kno this is a stupid question but wat do the touch sensor hack does to our vogues
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
Makes apps/games that require an accelerometer for tilting a device to turn etc. work. It uses touch points on the screen in place of physically tilting the device since we have no accelerometer. Games that require would not work without the hack.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jadenj5:
Re: Incubus26Jc's Sense 2.1 with Live Wallpapers [removed temporarily]

ok after running the build I found that it isnt quite as stable as the first it resets on occasion and the hack don't work for me.. this is an amazing build and I'm glad it was put in your Hans.. can't wait for next release much luck incubus

Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JM-PDA:
Hello incubus26jc,

Congratulations on your new application!

Thank you for all the themes, fonts, etc that you have been working on recently.

I will add this thread to my watch list.

All the best to you!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] joetrisman:
First build that I've been really excited about in a while! Hope to see the kinks worked out soon :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
the senors doesn't work propery in this build. It causes reboots and crashes for some reason.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Devildog8791:
Don't be sorry. You do great work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
Hmmm, I tried the release 2, Armadillo Roll, the accelerometer sensors worked for me but it was choppier than I'm used to so I got 48 seconds or something. I don't remember if it crashed afterwards, but in general I had to reset a lot of times for freezes (lockups when I try to hang up a call). Going back to Donut for now, good luck with this build!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I'm working on a fix for the ring delay everyone. I'll let you know as soon as I have something together :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
Just released RLS2. Thanks for working on that. I appreciate it:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Downloading now. Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
installing now!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Gersonian:
First boot right now. Your right it takes a long a$$ time!

EDIT and QUESTION: Is there any reason to be concern about the message: init: unable to open persistent property directory /data/property error: 2?

I do not recall having seen this with the myn build, but I could also be overreacting to how long its taking.

Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Ext2 Partition - Need Instructions

Can someone walk me through how to create an Ext2 Partition please?

Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Gersonian:
Giving up

I am officially giving up on this for the night. Putting myn back on and will try this again later. Still if anyone can answer my question, that would be awesome. It might just mean I am doing something wrong, and I would love to test this bad boy out.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
if you want to try this build its best to flash the included nbh if you already havent. an just install it like any other .tar build
[Touch CDMA Android Development] acegolfer:
The error sounds like you are running it off SD.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Gersonian:
Ah thanks. I went back to try and reflash, but it would not switch from serial to usb in bootloader once I plugged in. I will give this another shot later in the week. I just got antsy, and my wife was out of the house all day, so I had the time to play around!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] acegolfer:
No need to tether to flash.

You can put the file in SD (root folder) and rename it as voguimg.nbh.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jadenj5:
Re: Incubus26Jc's Sense 2.1 with Live Wallpapers [RLS2][4/18/10]

the new release is awesome thanks again incubus

Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Please, please....
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
1 sec i'll find the video
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
here you go man. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=619290
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sak211l:
do you have anything for us sd installers coming up because this won't install on sd
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
Bummer about the accelerometer thing. Its not that big a deal, I only got it to work in that one game (Armadillo Roll) and nothing else even on Myn's build. Just downloading this build now, I'm interested to see if the messages widget works without crashing the phone like the last build that was pulled. I'll let you know if all goes well tomorrow! Thanks a billion Incubator!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Stellarex:
getting an error on install.

CHOWN: /data/app_s: no such file or directory.

anyone else?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
That's normal keep going.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
That message widget crashes with the overclock update for some reason. It worked fine without it I think. Thats the only thing that Ive found that effected by the overclock so far.

EDIT: it works with the overclock now though:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
Coming soon hopefully:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
Glad you like it. I will keep inproving it:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
i have not had a chance to mess with this build but if its anything like when mssmison had it then this is actually about the same if not better then the real hero. when i was playing with the hero at the sprint store i actually had alot of rosie crashes and force closes. and it really wasnt as fast as i thought it would be. so if this is like the build i tried before my phone crashed on me....2 words....outstanding work!!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
Thanks man. The message widget no longer crashes wth the overclock:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
so you can overclock and it does not crash? man i cant wait till i get my phone back. going into sprint tomorrow. and you never pm'd me back a#s :) lolol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
yup. just pm'd you Fu**** lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
this build sucks!!!!

hahahahaha just kidding ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
You are the bomb!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Dude, you have got to get a phone already…your missing out on the fun!:D

This build is great. you know I am a big fan of 320x428, but this looks close in comparison with it. It looks much sharper than before and all my widgets appeared on first boot.:eek:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
OK so I have a 4GB memory Card. How should I still partition 1 FAT32 and 2 Ext2 partitions? If so, what sizes do I select? Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zkush:
hows the speed compared to myns warm donut?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Very close with the rls2 build. Very close indeed.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thebulletfromhell:
have anyone notice the battery drain like crazy. I left my kaiser when its battery was 100% and after an hour or so, it drain fully.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] AaronNZ:
Can anyone tell me if this build has corporate calendar and exchange email + contacts? As these are essential for me to have.

Also, I need a build which doesn't drain the battery in half a day!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] CyCLoBoT:
Yup that's one thing I noticed with this build. I finished charging the phone before I went to bed and when I woke up, the battery was already low.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
well it is a 2.1 sense build guys. 2.1's battery isnt as good as 1.6 and then you add the live wallpapers and sense! so of course the battery isnt going to be all that great
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
i know man :( im going into sprint here in a couple hours so hopefull i'll have my new phone here in a few days
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
im really not sure man. i havent formatted my sd card before. pm incubus, he wouldnt mind
[Touch CDMA Android Development] CyCLoBoT:
That is true. Considering the features this build has, IMO they are far more advanced than what our phones can handle. Still to have it running on them is very impressive.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Very Big Problem. I can not call out or receive a call when it comes in…just missed a very important call. Is anyone else having this problem with making/recieving calls. I am going to to have to remove this build again quickly until this issue is fixed.

Everything else works great.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
exactly. i love sense and as soon as i get my phone back im putting this back on it lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Okay, so I calibrated my phone and was able to make a call. I am keeping a watch on the incoming calls. I will inform if any issue arises. I couldn't give up without a fight.;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
make sure you turn off vibrate and also add a ringtone. There isnt one added until you addd one. So an incoming call will be silent until you do. Sorry about the issues. Hopefully they will be worked out soon:(
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
It wasn't a ringtone issue. I needed to call my wife but couldn't press her number in the dailer, then it went black for about 25 seconds and then popped up another persons number that was next to my wife's number. I turned it off and it locked up.:eek: I rebooted the phone and recalibrated and was able to make a call. I am still monitoring the incoming calls. I wouldn't want this to happen to anyone else.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
A good tweak is to disable data when you're not using it. This will allow the phone to ring faster as well.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
A thought... The Vogue does not have Wifi so would it have any negative effects on the Vogue to include the Kaiser wifi support in the default install?

Unless I've misunderstood the sysinit.rc the added services are disabled by default and the wlan.ko should fail to load as the hardware isn't there so the only thing that may take some resources might be the tcp.buffer sizes. But I guess that there is a good chance that those buffers have default values and are setup even though the line is disabled in sysinit.rc.

I've done some testing and the wifi update I've put together have the wlan.ko in two places and one can be removed as the other one is the one used. So if you remove /etc/wifi/wlan.ko (the unnecessary one) and merge it into androidinstall.tar the end result is actually smaller than the original one.

So if it doesn't have any negative effects for the Vogue then it would be handy to have the Kaiser wifi support out-of-the-box in the default install.

Just my 2 cents...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
yes it would mess the entire system up for us vogue users. i tried the kaiser wifi update on my vogue one time just to see what would happen and it f'd up everything. had to reinstall system and data
[Touch CDMA Android Development] acegolfer:
Before I install it, I have a simple question on HTC sense.

How does Sense email interface integrate with gmail app? I use gmail app to reply both my personal and work emails.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
It intergrates when you first load the build and add your google acount info or type your gmail user and password in when you click on the mail shortcut. Just add the info by clicking on 'other POP mail' option.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] acegolfer:
Sorry for the confusion but I'm an Android user so I know how gmail integration works in Android. My question pertained to HTC sense user interface.

My guess is Sense uses its own email app that supports generic IMAP or POP. It probably does not support gmail native features such as conversations, labels, stars, reply using different email address.

Can anyone confirm?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drewden123:
AFAIK it handles gmail the same way vanilla android does...meaning you have a gmail app and everything just like normal android.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] acegolfer:
Thanks for confirmation.

To clarify, in order to run gmail with its full features, I need to use gmail app just like in Warm Donut. The email app within Sense UI won't cut it.

Suppose I receive an email in Sense email interface. If I want to label it, I can't do it within Sense and I need to open gmail app (or web browser).

Is this correct?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thebulletfromhell:
Any chance of theming it. GODZON got a really good sense theme.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Updated Kaiser instructions and files for RLS2 here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6209137&postcount=47
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Well I've seen many different Kaiser wifi updates and some of them have been recommendations of running a polymod wifi update on mssmison's eclair and things like that certainly can mess up your installation.

The wifi updates replaces the sysinit.rc so taking a wifi update from another build or even previuos version of the same build can lead to strange things.

I've also had some bad update experience with the Sense build that I think may have to do with the fact that I cannot turn it of nicely. Usually adding the wifi stuff to androidinstall.tar works better. Adding it afterwards with androidupdate.tar sometimes seems to render the install unbootable or unstable. Don't know why really.

The Polymod build has Kaiser wifi built in but still runs on Vogue I think so I still think it may work. Nontheless I will see if I can make sysinit.rc tell the difference between a Vogue and a Kaiser and only run the Wifi parts on a Kaiser.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] AaronNZ:
Really keen to give this build a try - can anyone update me, especially on the exchange support? Cheers! :D

I would just go for it, but last month I clocked up a $1100 bill by re-syncing all my email heh, work paid out for it but I felt a bit stink!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] reaper999:
SENSE 2.1 oN KISER

any ideas on making sense 2.1 work on kiser thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] egzthunder1:
You are back on the front page :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
where is that? ilooked for him on the front page but i cant find it
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
He is on the very first story! He's a…Superstar!:D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
ive looked everywhere. general/off topic/questions and answers. i cant find it
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Try the link below:

http://www.xda-developers.com/
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
oh ok. thanks man. how can i get on the front page lolol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] egzthunder1:
The xda portal, not the root of the forums...

http://www.xda-developers.com/
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
yeah i just got it. i feel stupid haha
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Just let them know we are friends of Inc. that stay up until the wee hours trying to figure vogue problems together. lol

Nah, he deserves the spotlight. He's done a great job.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
yeah. he's done a hell of alot on here. he may say that i help him out, even put it on the first post. but i really havent helped him out at all.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I've noticed a thing with RLS2 that worries me. When I tried editing sysinit.rc from a terminal with vi I could not save it even though I had done su and rwsystem before editing.

So I did a df -h and /system is 100% full. I've done some more testing and it's 100% full regardless if I use a Kaiser modified androidinstall.tar or the default androidinstall.tar.

Now add the fact that my Kaiser modified androidinstall.tar contains 405kb less data than the original one and the file system is still 100% full.

Both versions contain less than 128Mb, still 128Mb is used. My conclusion is that during first boot initialisations are made which fills up /system and since it fills up completely even with a 405kb smaller installation it is not a good sign.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
I noticed this as well last night. I'm working on it . Had to stop to go to work though:) I should have a new system tonight.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I'm currently installing on an 160Mb system just to see how much more it needs. One thing I've noticed so far is that "Fix permissions" is quick again. Fix permissions takes a long time a 128Mb system parition.

EDIT: Kaiser wifi version (405kb smaller than non-Kaiser version) takes up 129.3Mb on /system
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
Thanks alot man. I appreciate it.
[Desire Accessories] NZtechfreak:
Just quick confirmation if anyone was looking for this.
[Desire Accessories] ephumuris:
Will be great when they get full root and we have apps2sd... :D
[Desire Accessories] NZtechfreak:
Yep, ideal!
[Desire Accessories] jonmall1441:
You think they will ever fix this within android (without root)? I'm hoping froyo will fix it and i have a feeling we will be seeing it at google io in may
[Desire Accessories] The_Hawkster:
Cool, :cool: have had mine on pre-order since beginning of April, supposed to be released April 21st. can't wait to fill it up with music, will leave a few gigs of space though for photos and videos and maybe a movie or two. :)
[Desire Accessories] Macca2805:
Where is a place I can buy a 32gb MicroSD? Clove didn't stock one and I couldn't see one on eBay or shopbot.com.au...
[Desire Accessories] NineToTheSky:
Although not much help for you if you're in Oz, here in the UK, several companies are taking advance orders for 30th April delivery, including Expansys, Play and MyMemory.
[Desire Accessories] ianjd:
If you're really in a hurry, Sandisk's own store are showing them in stock for £143, about a £50 early adopter tax.

http://www.sandisk.co.uk/Products/Item(2888)-SDSDQ-032G-E11M-SanDisk_microSDHC_32GB.aspx
[Desire Accessories] Macca2805:
Oh ok so they're new... They'll likely drop in price and go global soon enough.
[Desire Accessories] nerdo:
@NZtechfreak

Thanx for the tip mate, awesome :D

For some reason I thought Android 2.1 didn't support that size yet!!

As for prices ScanDisk 32GB is for £89.99 on Play free delivery!
[Desire Accessories] Philosoma:
They work, however Android can't format them yet. Expected to be fixed in the next version.
[Desire Accessories] micks_address:
so is 89 pounds the cheapest option at the moment?