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[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
i know me too man :( i can already tell that your going to do wonders! what...like 4 hours after mssmison handed this build over to you you learned how to do some of the stuff and already released a build. its an honer to have you as a friend man :) looking forward to testing your future releases
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Dang! It's so strange that when I used haret to run this build the clarity was close to 320 x 428, now it's more fuzzy as usual with 320 x 480. I know, I know…your going to say I don't know what to tell ya, huh?;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
settings\applications\manage applications\htc sense\force close and then clear data. Then all the widgets should show up
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
ding ding ding!!! lololol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i would say try a font from my conponents thread like droid logo font. i have never tested with sense though
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Your fonts are great. It's more than the font it's the overall look of the graphics. I know something will happen in the future to make the clarity of 320 x 480 better but for now I will say…continue doing a great job!:)

320 x 428 rocks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
is it possible to turn htc sense off?

edit:i tried...i dont think you can
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
try settings\applications\manage applications\htc sense\clear defaults
[Touch CDMA Android Development] CyCLoBoT:
Not sure what I'm doing wrong but I tried this twice and still no luck. Force Close and Force Stop is the same thing right? Because I see the Force Stop option in the HTC Sense window.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
you may be able to install one of the launchers(i saw a bunch of them in the market) and then go into settings/applications/manage applications/htc sense and clear data/defaults
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
hmm.. is anyone else having this issue?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
i tried that

and when i go home sense still shows up

its okk, just a bit slow

im used to 35m+ of memory

but im down to 27ishh lol

but this is excellent preparation for my Incredible! lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] PulseFate:
Where did you put your data then if you don't mind me asking?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Thanks Dude!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
You could put it in any of the locations...? I don't think I understand what you're asking. I haven't installed this build yet.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
I put data to sd partition. It's booting up right now. I will let everyone know how it goes in about 20min.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] PulseFate:
Sorry if I confused you, I'm fairly new to this, and I have my sd card set up to be fat32/ext2/ext2/rest swap, but I just want to know how everyone else is setting up the install (where /sys went and /data went) so that I go with what most people are doing which I assume to be the best choice. Hope this clarifies.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
best choice is system on ext2 partition and data on nand. Only other option is system on ext2 and data on ext2.

So basically put data on nand if you dont mind the space limit that nand has to offer. Put data on partition if you want more space to work with. However big your partition is, thats how big your data will be.

System has to go on ext2 partition because it is to big for nand at the moment. I will try to get it to fit in nand later.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
So you'd expect this build to benefit from system on nand? Hmm... been a while since i sync'd my tinboot... more later!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
nand is always faster than most sd cards. But this build runs pretty solid for being 320x480 and on sd card. Has anyone tried it yet. If you do make sure you let it calm down on first boot.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
So far…It is fast as stated by Incubus. All widgets show upon opening as well. Note, it takes a little longer booting up…don't get discouraged. If you see the htc logo on your screen your good. it just takes a long time after that. I will continue to give feed back. I need to load all my widgets and stuff now!:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
Installed system on ext2, data to NAND. First boot worked well, got all my widgets up without any problems. But I made a call about 20 minutes after first boot and the screen froze 13 seconds in. I was able to talk for 3 minutes but when I looked at the phone to hang up it was stuck and did not respond to any buttons either. Had to reboot, hopefully that doesn't happen with every call. As far as I can tell this is a fast build!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
Re: Incubus26Jc's Super Hero 2.1 [RLS1] [5\13\10] [EXT2 Only] [Pretty Damn Fast]

Just woke up!

Im about to download this baby!

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[Touch CDMA Android Development] PulseFate:
Now incubus, you said not to touch it until after 15-20 minutes? But Mine just took 4 minutes for first boot before I got the screen to unlock phone. Should i just leave it alone still?

Also is there a better lcd density for the 320x480 resolution that would make the screen less blurry by any chance?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
I said that because if you try to get through the setup process and go to the homescreen while its still loading, it will run slow and give you a false inpression of how fast and smooth the build is. So if you leave it on the lockscreen for 10 or 15 mins, it will get through the setup and homescreens alot smoother. It should load fairly quickly from then on out.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I haven't got time to try this yet but an idea would be to resize the NAND partitions to make a large system and a 32Mb data partition.

Then install system in NAND and data on FAT or EXT2. Also update compacache settings to setup a backingswap on the NAND data partition. I'm not sure if that works but if it does it should be faster than using a swap on the SD-card.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
I created an nbh that dedicates 'all' the nand space (minus the first little partition) to system (data on sdcard part, of course). I've got the build installed and it's pretty smooth, incoming calls take about 3 rings.

kallt_kaffe, I thought it was a bad idea to put swap on nand? write cycles, etc?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
well, i thought about doing that but then i would require everyone to flash a certain nbh correct? I also thought about trying when i got home was to turn the system\app folder into a data\app_s folder wich is like 50 or 60mb and that will drop the system below the limit. What do you think i should do. I do want to get it functioning on nand because more people will try it out that way. But i had to stop and go to work :( Im almost off though
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
yeah, custom nbh hoses everything... the app_s method was good in the past, but then you can't wipe data for troubleshooting without reinstalling system, right?

I think I'm going to go like I am now for a while, one giant system partition on nand, data on ext2.

incubus if you're interested in the nbh I made (which is Vogue only) pm me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
mind uploading that nbh? Im interested in trying it out. Hows it running for you?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
nbh pulled, didn't help as much as I hoped. install sys to sdcard partition and data to nand.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] garringm:
I PM'd you the the other day about a build very similar to this but anyway the build I am currently using is built with the app_s and runs pretty fast as well, right now I am working on a couple things I am using your app folder which is smaller than mine to leave more room on data partition, I've got roughly 40 mb free space but once I sync my contacts this drastically drops
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
Hey all, I've got a question about the Facebook integration in this build. The first time I booted, I had to manually resync my contacts to get them to show up. Then I added Facebook for Sense, and it automatically matched a few of my friends up with their proper Facebook profiles. But I wanted them all to be correct, so I renamed a bunch of my contacts, and tried to resync. Nothing happened and I lost all the current connections. Then wiped data and tried it all again, and I still can't get any of my contacts to link up properly. Even though I have both my Google account and Facebook for Sense properly set up, when I go into a contact and "Link Facebook Profile" nothing shows up. This is super frustrating! Has anybody had any luck with this? And how!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
Re: Incubus26Jc's Super Hero 2.1 [RLS1] [5\13\10] [EXT2 Only] [Pretty Damn Fast]

So with this nbh, do we still need to have two ext2 partitions?

Or can we go with one fat32 and one ext2?

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[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
The installer is hardcoded - it will onlyput data on the THIRD partition of an sdcard (mmcblk0p3), or the THIRD partition in nand (mtd2). Likewise, it will only put system on the SECOND sdcard partition (mmcblk0p2) or the SECOND partition in nand (mtd3)

SO if you use my nbh, system MUST go to nand, and data MUST go to either the THIRD sdcard partition (which the installer will format ext2) OR a data.img file on the fat32 partition.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
really all you need is one either way. System on nand, data on ext2 or system on ext2 and data on nand. I have two so i can have 2 builds running at one time. I have a eclair system running on nand with data running on ext2 and i also have a sense system on ext2 and data on nand. This nbh though, wipes out the abuility to have a data on nand and gives you one big system to allow your to install the big system on nand. So if you ever plan on having two seperate builds running, keep the extra ext2. If you dont then no you dont need it.

EDIT: actually you probably coudnt have data on nand no matter what if you install this nbh
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i havent messed with this to much yet. But i will test it out and try to fix it if its broken
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
Right - but it has to be the THIRD partition. You can make the 2nd partition as small as you want if you don't think you'll need it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i understand. So where is the second partiton on nand. Or is it just really small?

Im going to flash this nbh. If i move system to and and reinstall, i can keep data on ext2 and retain data when im installing correct?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
that info's not aimed at you, man. ;) For vogue, on nand, there's two small partitions (boot and root) then system (2nd) and data (3rd).

from tinboot:
mtdparts=msm_nand:0x00300000@0x1600000(boot),0x00040000@0x01900000(root),0x066C0000@0x01940000(system),0x08000000@0x08000000(userdata)"

yes, that's correct. it works like normal, but you lose some flexibility about where things go.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i know it wasnt aimed at me. I was just trying to soke up as much info as i can :) Thanks for the NBH. Im not sure if i want to offer it on the first post yet. Im sure i will in a bit. Thanks again :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
np, and I imagine kallt_kaffe could cut some for the gsm'ers if he tried... :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
how much space will i have left on system after i install this to nand?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
quite a bit... roughly

256-24-160 so

72 MB.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
wow, so you could make an nbh that has 60 to 70mb free for data.

Hows this build running for everyone?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
this nbh breaks homescreen weather graphics.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
eh, it's probably the eclair hw3d thing. boo... I'll upload a new one.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
About the Facebook integration...

Cool thanks. That is one of the reasons that I would install a 2.1 rom over Myn's Donut. But yeah the most frustrating part is that it worked for a few of my friends (it replaced their pics with updated FB pics and showed upcoming events) and then it didn't work after that. So at least you know it can work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
which widget is that? I'veflashed the new nbh and I'd like to test.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
it is the htc weather flipclock
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
nope, that nbh doesnt work either. Also, it seems to run alot slower for some reason
[Touch CDMA Android Development] PulseFate:
Great build incubus; with data off this build all on sd card comes close to performing to your super lite eclair all on nand IMO (some tasks and htc widgets tend to lag a bit).

When running with data on, I would compare it at times to using one of mssmissions old builds using haret.exe (trying to do something while phone is syncing really overloads the phone).

Has anyone else encountered a problem trying to add more HTC Widgets through the 'Add to Home" menu?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Awesome Sense build. Faster than any other I've used and I think maybe fast enough for every day use, which is awesome.

I installed and got it up and running, except I couldn't get a data connection. The icon showed, but nothing would load. Going to reinstall and try again.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] PulseFate:
Has anyone tested or know of how much of a difference there is in performance between a class 4 and a class 6 SD card?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JM-PDA:
I am also curious about a Class-2 vs. Class-4.

I currently have a Class-2 and am contemplating getting another SD card.

Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
ive heard that there is quite a differnce between class 2 and 4 but not much difference between 4 and 6. I currently use a pny 8gb class 4
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ern88:
Is there any chance to see the super fast 2.2 build on our vogues???
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
have a link to the build?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
I am also running off of a class 4 card.

Edit: With vibrate on for calls, they are coming on on the 2nd to third ring. Build is awesome. I think this is the first really usable sense build.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omonoid:
can you briefly explain how to install onto ext2 i have a 1000mb fat and 2 500gb ext2. I have the 240 eclair nbh and am at the install menu. I assume you just check the too options regarding ext2 then install
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
yes but you need 320x480 eclair nbh
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omonoid:
oh shoot. my problem with that is everything is small with that. ill give it a shot though
[Touch CDMA Android Development] socrate007:
Sorry for the noob questions... I searched and I'm still not familiar with android and the terms... plus english is 2nd langage so please, be patient with me!

If normally use haret to try Android while keeping wm6.5 for daily use: I never found a "perfectly" stable and reliable android system for vogue that works for everthing i need but i love how android looks so nice and is really finger friendly.

So... Can I use this build of SD (with Haret) while keeping WM65 or must I absolutely flash it to Nand?

If SD is ok, then do I need a specific eclair zimage file for the 3D to work (you mentionned the eclair nbh...) can you point me to one.

Do i need a partition if i do everything on SD? (I have a 8GB microSDHC from Sandisk... no idea what class it is, it is not written on it)

Will this work if i set resolution to 320x428@144 ?

That'll do to start! Thanks in advance... :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omonoid:
Im currently installing on a sd partitioned with ext2 and using the

voguimg-320x480-eclair-29-04-10.nbh found here

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cyburke:
this build looks so awesome, i can't wait to try it out - incubus it's been said many times, but thank you again for the continued hard work.

has it been asked yet regarding voice search for this port? thoughts or possibilities?

cheers!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] socrate007:
Thanks...

Isn't an nbh file only for flashing to nand?

I didn't see anything in the tutorials on how to use a nbh to install the system on SD... I only know how to use haret with androidinstal.tar
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
yeah dont flash the nbh unless you want to wipe windows mobile. For haret, do you have all your files in andboot or android folder?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] socrate007:
Hi Incubus,

Yes, I have everything in andboot on my microSD (i have been trying some of your work, and Myn's too).

I always erase everything in andboot and android folders and start fresh with new files and the the latest zimage available for vogue.

I have never done a partition on my SD card but if i need to, i'll find out how to do it (please let me know if i

must

do it even with haret)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
im not sure to be honest but ext2 partition is native to android and will be faster than a data.img.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JM-PDA:
I am running off my SD card with WinMo 6.1 only for camera use.

When I first switched to Android, I ran Android for 6 weeks on SD with no EXT2 partitions.

It ran well.

However, I after creating and running with 2 EXT2 partitions I found a big performance boost and also the system ran much more stable (significantly less reboots).

I've got an 8GB Sandisk SDcard with 2 EXT2 partitions at 512 each and the rest is FAT32.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
is the build still pretty stable for you?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] socrate007:
I just installed SuperHero to SD without partition for now.

I did not understand it was possible as the title mentions "ext2 Only"... :rolleyes:

Will test and come back with results...

Thanks Incubus, your work is great!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JM-PDA:
Super Stable!

No reboots yet. I've only had it running for a few days.

Though I am running your "Incubus26Jc's Super Eclair Lite 2.1 [RLS5] - [5/8/10] ".

Super stable and super fast.

I am really impressed.

Thank you ! ! !
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
i installed the system to ext2 and data to nand

but when i reboot...myns warm donut loads..

how do i get it to boot from the ext2 partition?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
hold the center dpad and change the system to ext2 and exit
[Touch CDMA Android Development] omonoid:
I got it all installed and didnt find any bugs other than what you found. Im gonna switch back to your eclair build since its more fast and stable.

I definatly like the hero looks too. Ill be keeping up with this thread and install the next builds
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
ohhh okk haha

that seems to have done it thanks alot!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
make sure data is on nand
[Touch CDMA Android Development] socrate007:
Ok, got it running but it's started very slow and hanged a lot... It did reboot a lot too on install and wouldn't go past the lockscreen .

now, i finished the setup and it's scrolling ok... it is still slow so i guess i'll hve to partition my card... i'll try thjis later...

Thanks for the help. :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] PulseFate:
As incubus said you should wait 15-20 minutes when you first install and boot it before playing with it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thebulletfromhell:
Any chance for kaiser wifi update??
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Sure... I'll fix one but I can't test it myself as I'm doing some experiments with my phone.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Try the attached update. Should work but I can't test it myself right now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] milanche:
Regarding Kaiser WiFi:

@kallt_kaffe

I've used your kaiser Sense Wifi update and it worked for my Kaiser on this build.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6209137&postcount=47

Thank U for your work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Michga:
Awesome... im glad.. you are very good.. now i cant test it because im in school but when i will be at home i will check it.. i think at 3 a clock
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
There is a difference in sysinit.rc between RLS4 and SuperHero RLS1. It has to do with the memorysettings so you may want to apply my update above even though the RLS4 update works.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
I noticed a speed issue, too - I'll pull the nbhs and try the build ext2/nand like all the other boys and girls.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Michga:
I always set data on ext2, so we can modify NBH to 200mb /system and /10mb data and other on swap or other parts

I red on other thread another partitions size (mtdparts=msm_nand:0x10000000@0x0(nand)ro,0x00040000

00(root),0x066C0000@0x029e0000(system),0x06f60000@0x090a0000(userdata)) how i can change that on /system on perhaps 200mb
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
The format is like this... size@offset and everthing is hexadecimal.

0x0aa00000 is 170Mb which is enough + some extra to be on the safe side.

So you would put 0x0aa00000@0x029e0000(system) in the example above to get a 170Mb system partition.

Then you need to calculate the new offset for the data partition which would be 0x029e0000+0x0aa00000=0x0d3e0000

The size left for data is 0x10000000-0x0d3e0000=0x02c20000 (44Mb) so you would change the data partition to 0x02c20000@0x0d3e0000(data)

However you can't use such small data because it would be tight even without installation any application (dalvik-cache, browser cache, settings etc) so you have to put data on FAT or EXT2.

Now what would be interesting is to try what happens if you tell compacache to use a backingswap on /dev/mtdblock3 but I have no idea if it would accept it or what effects it would have.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
Yeah, and after my experience with it on Vogue, I'd say don't bother. Incubus mentioned that, for him, having system on nand and data on ext2 made things slower, my experience was the same, and that's consistent with some comments dzo made long, long ago about nand in general.

And I thought putting swap on nand was taboo due to lots of write cycles?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Michga:
on my 16G SDCard is very very slow.. im working on NBH on which can be install on NAND
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Michga:
okey, but i always install much of app. so where i would put Data? on NAND isn free mem. bec. here is System.. so i have free 40 MB? Perhaps 50.. it isnt much

so what is fastest mrkite38? what you think
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
well, the favorite seems to be sys on sdcard partition, data on nand. So you COULD cut an nbh that had a very small system partition and a much larger data partition.

EDIT: the funniest thing I've seen today is how much faster this runs with system on ext2, data on nand instead of the other way around...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
May not be a bad idea. System is read only and while I'm by no ways an expert in the area I wouldn't be suprised if microSD card have really good read speeds while being slower on writes and if in that case system on SD-card may and data on NAND might be the best solution. Only way to be sure is to try.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
system on sd/ data on nand shows best performance for non odex'ed builds as it put's the dalvik cache on the nand.

This is probably the preferable way to go anyways as it reduces writes on the sd.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Speaking of the dalvik cache... Is it a good idea to clear it every so often in recovery?