yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Entropy512:
I would recommend removing that BatteryUniversity graph from your post, as it is misleading and irrelevant to almost any phone discussed here on XDA.

In the earliest days of cell phones, the charging circuitry/intelligence for the battery was in the car charger. As a result, a bad car charger could damage your battery.

However, in nearly every smartphone in existence, charge control is handled internally by the phone, the external charger only supplies a +5v rail for the charger to work with.

So the graph you have included is irrelevant, as no matter what charger you connect, NO phone covered here is going to try to charge the battery beyond 4.2 volts during the constant voltage phase of charging. So a graph covering what happens if the constant voltage phase of charging is upped to 4.25, 4.3, or 4.35 volts is completely irrelevant and misleading.

It might cause users to choose "weak" car chargers with a very low current limit, which are more likely to cause problems than a strong one. The internal charge circuitry of the phone expects +5v input to work with. If this input rail "browns out" due to a weak charger, the results are going to be unpredictable.

Also, your comments about 3G vs EDGE idle current are incorrect. Even when idle, most phones keep the power amplifier active and biased. The linear amplifiers used for UMTS transmit are inefficient (limitations of physics) and are going to consume current even when idling. A nonlinear amp like that used for EDGE (GMSK is a variant of FSK, which is a variant of FM, which does not require any amplifier linearity at all), however, uses almost no idle current.

There's a reason there are large amounts of anecdotal evidence indicating that idling on 3G eats a lot more battery than EDGE idling.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DarkDvr:
Interesting, thanks for your input.

I removed the section about fastchargers. However, information about 3G/Edge usage comes directly from Google IO, and I have no reason to doubt it. So I'll keep that in there, and let people decide what they believe.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] toshik1:
Could I please get something clear?

The VERY first time I use the battery (and it has partial charge) do I need to completely drain the battery or completely charge it first?

When I got mine I completely drained whatever was in the battery (took about 2 days!) after recharging it only lasts for 1 day max.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] paaacman:
Thank you for this!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kalopsa:
Even if this is a relatively-old guide, I read it and find it really useful.

A thing that seems not to be outlined is the battery use of Bluetooth connection.

In car, I often connect my phone to the radio, to listen the music I have on my phone by the car's speakers (and also to us the car stereo as a 'vivavoce', as it also has a built-in microphone). It also works with the GPS voice.

I am a champion in phone-battery-killing, since in a 2 hours trip I can kill my phone battery using the phone connected via bluetooth for calling, for listening music, downloading lyrics, and using it as a GPS navigator with 3g connection to update the trafic infos.

Usually I let the battery go down for the first hour, then I plug in the car battery charger. But it don't charge the phone, just avoid battery level go down further. Why? Is the charger too 'weak'? Or is my phone absorbing to much energy?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DarkDvr:
I keep wifi and Bluetooth on al the time, I just don't turn it off ever. Reason being that I have a Bluetooth DVD player with mic in my car and, obviously, wifi at home.

It seems to not drain any battery when Bluetooth is not, but not used. At least I didn't see the difference in daily battery usage with it on or off.

Regarding the car chargers - its a common issue. My SGS2, having a very powerful CPU, seems to actually load it less, and drain less battery than my Captivate did. So, it heats up less and phone actually charges even on a hot day, while navigating me. Captivate, in comparison, would heat up a lot and not charge, just drain slower.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] vasanth.:
WIFI + skype will last for 4 hour in ma SGS2 MObile .

2G (EDGE) crunches Battery more than any service ...

Ive heared In New tat new WIFI (in Idle state) technology will be out next year .

BTW ! Thanks for the Article :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] guastucci:
Nice post!!! Thank´s a lot...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AngelosDracul:
I run a website (Crashmasters.com) for my store. Mind if I repost the OP for a blog? I will credit back to XDA and you.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Aheros:
Great article. I usually discharging my phone so it completely turn off and then charging to 100%. In opinion its good way keeping my battery life longer. Also on Android 2.1 you can go to Settings >General info & option > Battery information > "Battery health" for now "Good". On the other hand to keep your phone alive if on stock rom is to use 2G, turn off background data,reduce screen brightness, turn off mobile data and set to airplane mode when going to sleep.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jurben:
great guide...

i have other concern on the disposal of used battery.

how do i treat used Li-Ion battery. we can't burn them or throw them away to the trash. i don't know any used battery collector... but i can't keep them either.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IshTheG:
Hey, I am going to be using an unlocked n1 on t-mobile without a dataplan. Is there a gps app that will work without data and has maps preloaded? Does copilot do this? Thanks
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
Yes it does.
[General Topics] RedRamage:
So, I'm hopefully going to be getting a new TouchPro 2 shortly. I'm trying to decide whether I should stick with TouchFlo or go for Mobile Shell. Obviously I won't know for sure until I actually play with it a bit more than the brief experience I had with it at a verizon store.

One of my concerns with TouchFlo is the "upgradability" of it. I believe that the TPro 2 will come with an older version than the current one, no? Is it possible, short of flashing a new ROM, to upgrade to the newest version? I also read on Wikipedia that there are some 3rd party add-on tabs. Where can I see where these are available?

Thanks all.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jayflows0osick:
how do i update my stock myt3g 32b to ecalir 2.1?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] crypysmoker:
by reading? And knowing.... And knowing is half the battle:confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jayflows0osick:
yeah im new to thiss stuff can u jus give me the steps or tell me where to find it
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] KAwAtA:
can u jus search yourself. You obviously aren't even trying. You're also in the same section where all the wonderful information is provided as well. If you can't find it, just give up and don't bother

We were all once new, but we took some initiative and looked for it ourselves instead of begging for someone to hold our hand. All the information is already provided, google it or read these forums.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] crypysmoker:
So what your saying is.. You dont want help... You want someone to hold your hand like your mommy does when you go potty?

You want someone to take time out of their day to describe in detail to you what to do..... then your still not going to understand it. If its that hard for you to use the internet to search... then your not going to understand anything told to you here.

Know what an SPL or radio are/do? know which model of phone you have and the differences?

Lazy kids I swear
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] _ice_:
check the unlockr website great tuts. if your on donut you would downgrade to cupcake, load up recovery, then flash a rom. no goldcard required unless you have a 3.5mm

Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jayflows0osick:
all u guys can kiss my ****ing ass thanks for the help. wat kind of bull**** site is this all u guys r jus bashing me for no reason assholes!

nd btw i manged to ****in upgrade my fone to 2.1 eclair no thanks to this *****ass website
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] crypysmoker:
Waaaah. Get over yourself little boy. We were joking. U would have found everything you needed here. Our point was the fact that the time it took you to ask twice, you could have read every tut here. Angry litte turd
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] KAwAtA:
*sigh* I guess you got lucky and someone spoonfed you all the way
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] heavensblade23:
Great now leave.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eyegor:
WoW you are a very nice guy.

I for one would ban your ass from all the content found here.

One of the first stickies is NEWBIE INFO!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] BillTheCat:
Maybe some of you folks can chime in here with some discussion on how to manage email.

I own a copy of FlexMail 4.11, but one of the things that has always frustrated me about the program is that it does not integrate with the OS such as being able to directly send a photo from the album via email, and as of this version, it doesn't rotate to landscape. There are other gripes I have, but there are also many upsides, such as the ability to store messages externally, backing up email account settings (for re-installation after ROM updates) and a number of other features that make it very nice.

But I have to say that the built-in mail and SMS utilities in WM have gotten much better and I'm very tempted to use them instead of FlexMail if I can figure out how to store the content on my flash card. I remember there was a registry hack (I think it was in Tweaks2k2 or PocketMechanic) which would manage the reg changes automatically.

Anyway, I'm wondering if any of you can share your thoughts on what options might be better that would be the 'best of both worlds'.

Thanks in advance!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MAMeingast:
I have never used FlexMail and can't give you any advice on that. BUT I want to point out that it is possible to backup your e-mail account with the WM native mail app as well!

If you just want to backup your account settings, you can do this via a xml file and use Sashimi to recreate your account after flashing (read more here). If you want to backup your account and all the e-mails you can use Microsoft MyPhone AFAIK. Not sure about that though...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] BillTheCat:
Fair enough, though it gets me only half way there.

I found that PocketMechanic will relocate the message store, but it seems a bit kludgy to me, in that the 'today' plugin will force attachments to the internal store, when IMO they should also be on the external (storage card) location.

See the instructions here to see if you come up with the same conclusion with regard to the PocketMechanic solution:

http://www.wizcode.com/articles/comments/relocate-your-data-with-pocket-mechanic-professional/

Since I own a copy of PM (I'm one of those crazy guys that actually buys the software he uses to reward talented developers) it's no skin off my nose to experiment, but for the time and hassles it'll take until I figure it out. So I'm coming to you folks here for some discussion before I 'pull the trigger'.

So it looks like I'm faced with two choices, neither of which are entirely what I want. One gives me external store of all SMS and Email messages (FlexMail), but some functionality is disabled. The other gives me total integration with the OS (Outlook) but a kludgy and perhaps unreliable method for relocating and storing the data.

I'd be interested in hearing other thoughts, solutions or workarounds.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] BillTheCat:
Anyone? Would really like to do one of two things:

1) Change default programs in WM to point to FlexMail so that I can send a photo via email directly from the camera application

or

2) Move storage for WM native email from internal memory to storage card.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] anomandrus:
If by Storage you mean only attachments than it's easy. You go to your inbox>options and then select the storage tab. You have the option to use astorage card to save attachments. If u don't mean that I'm afraid that I can't help u. Good luck.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DrATty:
I am using FlexMail and the built-in WM client. I've used them individually and side-by-side. FlexMail isn't too finger-friendly but it's OK and I prefer it. IMAP Idle support is useful to me. Using both clients gets around the problems that result because FlexMail doesn't support some of the HD2's features.

I have problems when I set either program to store information on a storage card. Eventually, something happens and I find I need to reset my e-mail accounts and start again. I think this is because the card isn't initialized in time for the mail programs to access it. It doesn't happen when I first start saving mail to a storage card but it always happens eventually. I now use internal memory but I'm very selective as to which messages I have on my HD2. For instance, I download headers initially and rarely keep more than a few days messages to hand. I use IMAP accounts so my mail is kept on my server if I do need something from, say, last year. I can search for older messages on the server without downloading anything; again, this saves space.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] BillTheCat:
I'd be grateful to hear your thoughts on what you feel each is best at. I haven't used the internal WM mail client much, but I have used FM and have been happy with it. I tried using IMAP but found that there was really no benefit for me, in that I'd want local copies on my home machine anyway (no ISP is perfect) and I can't save a copy of sent items the way we can with Outlook and POP.

My question is that if I use 3rd party apps like FlexMail and PocketInformant, how do we get them to integrate to the HD2 shell (Sense) so that they launch rather than the corresponding WM utilities? This tangentially gets me back to the original question about how to email a photo directly from the camera via FlexMail.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] madbird:
hi, i used flexmail for some time, a while ago. i stoped using it when i change to hd2.

the only thing i realy miss, is the possibility to put a mail that is stored in one imap account folder to a folders on a different imap account. i didnt mean forwarding, i mean moving it between folders of different accounts.

aside from that i dont miss a thing on flexmail, the programmers are not getting dizzy to mentoin that they are using only ms windows features and functions in the interface. and i belive them, because the programm gives the user a realy hard time to use it. and that is not only on hd2 the case.

after all i can say i have a good time with flexmail but i would not buy it again. not with this interface that give the user the feeling, he is 100 years back in time.

mad
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Bry8Star:
Flexmail 4.11 allows to access (i.e. Send/Receive) : Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, my office emails, AOL IMAP, FastMail, emails through IMAP, emails through SSL, custom port, etc, SMS, etc.

i prefer Flexmail, its much much better.

I installed Flexmail in external Storage Memory. I was accessing multiple emails through it.

After ROM update, and re-installation of Flexmail, i can see all the previous emails and email accounts in the first opening window , but actual account settings inside the Menu > Accounts , all are missing !

Now it doesnt send/rcv anymore.

Is there a way to get the previous all email settings back ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] BillTheCat:
It sounds like unfortunately you didn't back up your individual email account settings from within FlexMail. You'll have to recreate them. I suggest after doing so that you save the files to your card, so that if you upgrade your ROM again you can restore the email accounts easily.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Dark Knight:
What really surprises me is that there doesn't seem to be any significant Touch friendly Mail application out there.

Is there anything above and beyond Flexmail ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] avemn1:
Hello All,

Just to let you know before hand, I have searched across the internet for the solution but none was found. I was wondering, I have an unlocked HTC Pure and I am running it on T-Mo(USA). The calls work, texts and IM work but the internet doesn't work at all. Mainly not even the MMS. Can someone please help me out with being able to send picture/video messages on this phone on T-MO. I have already found settings for t-mo texting but after that, no luck to get the other side running.

Thanks in advance!!:)

P.S. Is anyone else having wifi connection issues as well. Well it connects no problem but the internet doesn't work. Even after I disable/enable proxy.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] cmstackar:
In connections menu, there should be an option to choose band(it may be under advanced options), choose Tmo's band, or auto. Either one should work
[Hero CDMA General] Justjusten:
After switching to linux, my phone no longer recognizes my computer and doesnt give the option to go to disc mode, sorry if its a dumb question but could someone tell me what i need to do to get it working again? Im not familiar with the os yet so im clueless.
[Hero CDMA General] smoother2010:
you can't use mass storage mode?
[Hero CDMA General] Justjusten:
it doesnt do anything when i plug it in but charge i have it set to ask what i want it to do when i plug it in
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
Do you have debug turned on on the phone?
[Hero CDMA General] VinceOB:
Thats because Linux doesnt see your phone. You need to setup UDEV to recognize your Hero. Follow this tutorial. And when I say "Follow" I MEAN FOLLOW. No skipping.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=537508
[Hero CDMA General] Justjusten:
do i have to reinstall linux to do this ?
[Hero CDMA General] VinceOB:
What flavor do you have?
[Hero CDMA General] Justjusten:
im using mint i think its based on ubuntu
[Hero CDMA General] VinceOB:
So, did you follow directions? Should work with any flavor of Linux.
[Hero CDMA General] Justjusten:
im trying but i dont have a .bashrc file so i made one and when i put this code (sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart) into the terminal i get

(Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)

utility, e.g. service udev restart

Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an

Upstart job, you may also use the restart(8) utility, e.g. restart udev

udev start/running, process 2427)
[Hero CDMA General] pseudoremora:
No, you don't have to reinstall Linux.

Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu, so yes, it's based off of it.

You don't need to create the .bashrc file... it's already there. The period in front of the bashrc indicates that the file is hidden.

To see hidden files, run this command:

[B]ls -a[/B]

This will show you hidden files, any files with a period in front of it, will always be hidden.
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
Or navigate to the folder that it says that it is in and press ctrl + h

This will show you all the hidden files inside of the folder. Without having to use the terminal.
[Hero CDMA General] centran:
Did you try pulling down the status bar and clicking on Charge Only to set it to disk mode?

If all else fails you can reboot to recovery and USB-MS toggle. If that doesn't work then something is messed up in your distro. Test if mounting works while in recovery and report your results.
[Hero CDMA General] Justjusten:
I already did the control + h to show hidden folders and there isnt a .bashrc there is one under etc except it is bash.bashrc and i cant edit it , and i already tried the usb-ms toggle in recovery and nothing happened. Thanks for all the help so far guys, and if there is something wrong with my distro i dont mind getting a new one, does anyone have and suggestions on what to go with though?
[Hero CDMA General] VinceOB:
There shouldnt be anything wrong with your Distro. Mint is built off Ubuntu so in essence it should work. Maybe download Ubuntu.
[Hero CDMA General] Justjusten:
i think ill make a live disc of ubuntu and see if my phone is recognized at that point and if not then i wont install it
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
You cant edit it because you have to have root access. You should try typing in terminal sudo chmod permissions to give you root access. Im definitely not that good at linux but i figured out a majority of it.
[Hero CDMA General] diordnahero:
make a file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ called 51-android.rules

here is mine.

SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0bb4", MODE="0666" , GROUP="plugdev"

Make sure you belong to the plugdev group, you probably already are. I can execute adb commands without being root user.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
just stick to what works and that's windows 7, i hate linux on a pc.
[Hero CDMA General] diordnahero:
Well that is a debate topic for another place. For me I've formatted the drive on my last 4 new laptops and have not looked back.
[Hero CDMA General] diordnahero:
I just booted my wife's Ubuntu laptop.

Plugged in my damagecontrol 2.07.2 and it gave me the choice to mount as a disk, when I did I got an icon on the desktop for the usb drive sdcard. This works without creating the 51-android.rules file. That is needed to use adb in the android sdk.
[Hero CDMA General] Justjusten:
alright thanks i think i will just switch to ubuntu
[Hero CDMA General] VinceOB:
why add a group when he can follow these simple directions??

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=537508

Also, you can add this to 51-android.rules without the group...

SUBSYSTEM=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0bb4", MODE="0666"
[Hero CDMA General] nebenezer:
I have not read this thread, I will go back and start at the beginning. I just had to find a linux thread to post that I'm posting this from my first experience with linux which is Ubuntu 9.1 on a bootable usb drive.

Awesome, next step is making room for this on my HDD, this is really cool! I am really looking forward to getting to know linux more :D
[Hero CDMA General] diordnahero:
After adding the plugdev group to the rules file I was able to use adb from commandline without being su. The group was there and I was a member already.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
does htc sync make a version that will work with linux? :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] scuzzy19:
So I got a touch Pro 2 today from work and running klinux on it just fine on first attempt, now my question is, Is there any way to "spoof" and android ID to the device to use the android market and certain apps that look for an ID?

I tried searching the thread before posting but couldnt come up with any results.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mdayjr:
you need a gmail acct. thats what market uses. of course i had an android phone once and set everything up.. you should be able to do the same here considering its android os.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] demandarin:
u need to create google gmail account. Im running any and every app. I even confirmed apps that need to be rooted works fine on this build with nothing extra to be done. I guess our version of Android OS is already rooted(same thing as Jailbrake or anything unlocking your phone) to run unapproved apps. a good one to look for is Barnacle Wifi Tether app on Marketplace.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] scuzzy19:
Hmm thats odd I did create a gmail account when I did the initial setup can check my email but market still crashes on startup
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] miker2431:
That's a known bug with the sense build.