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[Hero, G2 Touch General] anarchyuk:
I would sign this if it didn't have the fact that they are obligated to provide the update, they have no obligation at all as the product in its current form with 1.5 is fit for the purpose. The 2.1 update is to provide extras in a way and not a firmware update its a complete os change. (well kind of)

I also would like the update asap but to the amount of people on probably all the development sites they are fully out numbered by the users who dont mess with the software 50 fold for the hero so HTC dont really care tbh.. and i know that for a fact ;)

Adding new functionality to an old phone that will hamper the sales of other new 2.1 phones is the conflict any company would undergo as the projected sales are most definitely effected by an update like this!!

Defo sucks... shame HTC cant just release the sources and the pressure to bring out the rom wouldn't be as great.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] shahid.malik:
@anarchyUK: I disagree that HTC aren't obligated to provide Android 2.1 for the Hero.

Had they NOT made public announcements, confirmed 'rumours' to be true in reply to probably hundreds of bloggers' queries (email or otherwise) and even stated expected release dates for the Hero 2.1 update, then one could argue that they are not obligated to provide it. However after making so many promises to Hero users and still not being able to deliver is downright pathetic of them. Nobody forced them to say 1.6 was coming to the Hero, or 2.0 for that matter, OR 2.1. They're the ones who made the announcements, and they're the ones who are obligated to stick to their word now.

I for one am ticked off to the point of never supporting them by getting an HTC phone again. It's even more infuriating when you consider that 1) the Legend has most exactly the same hardware WITH 2.1 support, and 2) independent developers have managed to put together reasonably stable 2.1 builds for both the GSM and CDMA Hero, all WITHOUT access to Hero-specific drivers/kernels or what not (I'm not sure exactly what it is modding devs need to perfect their builds, but you get the idea) that HTC have hidden away for God knows what; doesn't seem like its doing them any good, all they do is keep pushing back their release dates.

So HTC can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. I'm not signing the petition because even if they released the update in the next hour, I will not be getting it out of principle (more stubborn-ness though). I'd rather support the hard-working independent devs because at least they give a **** about Android, and not about how much money they'll get.

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[Hero, G2 Touch General] bluesax:
They are obligated to provide a new firmware because 1.5 is BUGGY!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cyberwizzard:
Nonsense.

I agree that I would love to have the 2.x update yesterday but the current 1.5 is rock solid. It never crashed on me and works like a charm.

The only reason I would like the 2.1 update is because of the improvements on the bluetooth stack and the improved voice functions.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kalairn:
i think they delayed 2.1 release cause they haver moved most of there developers to there new devices and the team working on the hero update is probably very small now, if anyone has noticed how buggy these 2.1 leaks are with battery drainage camera color errors, the slowness, i think its the right move for them to delay the release of the update until these issues are sorted
[Hero, G2 Touch General] anarchyuk:
They are not obliged in any way to provide 2.1 because 1.5 is buggy, they are obliged to make every attempt to fix the bugs within 1.5. (uk sales of good act and eu regulations) And for the other responses saying they have announced it and that makes them obliged? are we in make believe land now?

The update is good will from HTC if anything. I think HTC releasing this when they do is a very different thing compared to other companies like nokia who would rather release 10 other variants of a phone instead of upgrading a s60 3rd edition to a 5th edition...

Considering the Hero I have is on a 24 month contract I dont really think banging on about it like people do is really worth the bother. My point being a petition is pointless.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rayjt9:
If they're delaying it, they're delaying it for a good reason.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] shahid.malik:
@anarchyuk: From your second post I got the feeling you are talking about 'obligated' in the legal sense...FYI I was talking about them making good on their word. I do realize that they are not legally obliged to provide the 2.1 or other updates, but like I said, we didn't ask for it first, they said they'd release it and got everyone's hopes up. No fault of the users to complain if HTC cannot deliver.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] anarchyuk:
I agree in the loyalty sense they are obliged to deliver a promise, but that wasn't aimed at your post it was mainly at the "because 1.5 is buggy they have to release 2.1" train of thought.

who knows what the main reasons behind the delay are but I can guarantee it has some link to money!!

Hopefully the development section for the X10 will kick into gear and then it is bye bye to HTC phones for the time being for me!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kyods:
I'd rather wait an extra month or two and get a stable, finished product than get a hastened, buggy release, another wave of whining about how evil HTC are to release a buggy software. Some people cannot be pleased.

Sent from my Hero using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Hero, G2 Touch General] foxmeister:
Lets be clear here, HTC have released 2.1 with Sense for the Legend, and internally this device is almost identical to the Hero. Therefore, we can be reasonably certain that the reason for the delay is not because it is unfinished or buggy - at least no more so than the version they've shipped on the Legend.

IMHO, it is a marketing decision pure and simple, so that it doesn't affect early sales of the Legend and Desire. They did much the same when they released Sense UI for the Magic some months after the Hero had shipped, despite the fact that the hardware was again very similar.

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kyods:
It's certainly possible, however if the hardware wasn't an issue here, we'd already have plenty of fully-working ROMs ported from the Legend. All the 2.1 ROMs I've tried so far, however, are more or less buggy, which makes me believe the situation is not that simple as it would seem. Still, I'm not a programmer, so it's just a wild guess of mine.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] foxmeister:
I didn't say that the hardware wasn't an issue - I said that the Legends hardware is almost identical to the Hero's. If HTC had already released the

kernel source for Legend, I'd wager that porting it to the Hero would be comparatively trivial (especially when compared to manually updating 2.6.27 to 2.6.29!) and we'd have fully working ROMs in well less than 2 months!

That being said, I find the latest Villain ROMs (5.2/5.3) are pretty much feature complete and the only issue I have with them is the less than stellar battery life (which I'm sure is a kernel issue).

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kyods:
My feelings exactly. That's why I'm not bothered much with HTC's official ROM being delayed.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] anarchyuk:
maybe the battery issue is the reason it hasnt been released :cool:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bonesy:
Looking from a business perspective on petitions,all this will do is annoy HTC to the point where they will say "well,**** you all then!we work our asses off to give them a brilliant update and they try to force us into releasing it sooner.They can stay on 1.5 and we will concentrate on the newest models"

Everyone is getting agitated because they stupidly believed rumours,now they have supposedly said June.until I see on Twitter they have released it,I wont believe any new threads on the 2.1 update!

Basically a petition will just piss them off.How much would you like some people telling you to work fastr?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cauli:
You're under a misapprehension here. Current custom 2.1 roms aren't buggy because the leaked htc code is buggy. They're buggy because the custom 2.1 rom builders don't yet have access to the 2.1 gsm Hero kernel. All they have to go on are the old kernel & kernels for alternative hardware. It is obvious, more than likely, why 2.1 hasn't been released yet.

Threads about this are boring enough at the best of times, but when posters back up false claims with unsound arguments it dilutes what little value the thread might have had remaining.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] shahid.malik:
...word! :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
THAT won't happen. I don't even think HTC will read those petitions, no stakeholder cares about them so it's just wasted time. And thinking that such a petition could cause HTC to react childish as you said is just not realistic. They are in it for the money, and they need happy customers. Thats why we will get 2.1 at some point.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
do you really believe that HTC is STILL investing that much time for bugfixes on the HTC Hero? Never.

They are just waiting for the right time to release, and i think they have a working update for at least 2 months.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Freedom Fighter:
Hi Guys, if you as dissapointed in the HTC support as me, please support our petition to HTC.

gopetition.com /petitions /android-phones.html

The point: open source codes of Android 2.1 kernel for all HTC phones, and provide proprietary binaries for compilation.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] hkr:
Disagree, there would be a leaked version out there, like the one from sprint Hero ...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] foxmeister:
Android 2.1 kernel? No such thing! ;)

If you're going to ask for something, it's important to ask for it correctly.

In this case, most Android 2.1 phones rely on a 2.6.29 Linux kernel. HTC are legally obliged to release the kernel source for the Legend and the Desire because they are shipping products. Since the version of 2.1 we have for the Hero is based on a leak (and thus not a shipping product), HTC are under no obligation to release the 2.6.29 kernel source for Hero just yet.

I'm of the opinion though that if we had the kernel source for the Legend, it wouldn't be too onerous to port to the Hero.

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch General] shahid.malik:
Isn't the kernel source for the Legend already available?...e.g. my current Villain ROM 4 Beta2, apparently ported over to Hero using the Legend kernel source, it at least that's what I'm led to believe.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Teidullie:
does updating the original facebook app found in the stock 2.1 version of android to the latest in the market break the sync feature?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sousafrui:
can you elaborate.... break the sinc?? do you have any app being force closed several times?
[HD2 General] Phenomenon:
Just wondering what do you do with gmail so it doesn't keep redownloading the same email over and over.
[HD2 General] lude219:
go into your inbox and when you delete, use the left softkey to delete and not in the sense menu.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pajaa:
Hi

After a couple hours of use my TP2 stayed totaly without all sound, I

have to restart it to use it again.

My rom is RUU_Rhodium_S2_HTC_Europe_2.07.401.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91_Signed_Ship

Thanks in advance
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pajaa:
Anyone?

Thanks
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Just curious, but who here golfs???
[Off-topic] OG:
I always considered golf one of those rich people sports. I play football instead. Hey, which is better, Saving Private Ryan or Pearl Harbor?
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I used to, but after getting clubs, I'm not sure why it's still considered that. It's $20-$30 per round.
[Off-topic] OG:
Hmm. Well my daddy never takes me and I think I'd look stupid if I went in on my own and started hitting balls and maybe a few people. Wanna take me?!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] anhphe076:
Hi! Somebody, Can you give me!! App FootPrints full *.CAB work with HTC Sense 2.5!! I problem with footprints!! many thank!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ASK768:
AFAIK you cant find just a tab as a .cab. i think youll have to flash a new ROM or hard reset
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] anhphe076:
I've problem with Footprints!

Here:Plz help me!!

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[Touch HD Themes and Apps] vutananh:
I think you need to flash a other ROM
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] anhphe076:
Thank you!! I fix Ok!!

Close topic!
[Windows Phone 7 General] stained-steel:
So, after the last few days leaks from Engadget.com, does anyone think that the Dell Lightning might just kill anything HTC has to offer (no updates, other than 'we will in Q4/Q1...)?

Is Dell going to be the next HTC in the WinMo/WinPho market???

I mean, Josh even calls it his "Next Phone"...?

So, again, my question is; Will Dell replace HTC in the WinMo/Pho world???
[Windows Phone 7 General] hoss_n2:
absolutly not , their wp7 device sucks even the old hd2 is better than it in specifications
[Windows Phone 7 General] krjcook:
How is the HD2 better? It offers the very similar specs. Except the HD2's camera has camera flash and the Lighting has a OLED Screen. After playing with the Zune HD's OLED screen I'd easily take the Dell Lighting over the HD2.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Dell is thicker because it has this keyboard which I don't care for. I also have doubts that a vertical slider with a 4" screen is such a brilliant idea.

In any case, announcing one device doesn't make Dell a new HTC. The specs of this lightning are just borderline minimum specs for a WP7 device.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hoss_n2:
more ram and bigger screen
[Windows Phone 7 General] stained-steel:
I had the very same impression at first. The more I thought about it though, the more it makes sense: First off, it keeps the Metro theme from having to change into a landscape mode. If you watch any videos of the WinPho7 OS operating, it's completely designed to stay in portrait. Also, many successful devices have been released with portrait keyboards, and I think with a little getting used to it, it may actually be easier and faster to type on than a landscape one.

Actually, the Lightning is just one of a whole slew of handhelds and MID's that Dell is releasing over the next few months or so!

When you say that the specs are 'borderline minimum', I think you're missing a very important point: WinPho7 required specs are better than probably, 95% of the what's on the smartphone market, right now!
[Windows Phone 7 General] stained-steel:
Where do you see that the HD2 has more RAM???

Lightning = 1GB ROM/512MB RAM.

HD2 = 512MB ROM/448MB RAM.

Also, bigger screen? LOL By 0.2 inches! Which will actually lead to a slighlty higher pixel depth on the Lightning, considering they are both WVGA!
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Except those are Android devices.

There's no doubt that all WP7 devices will be better than 95% of the market, but I certainly hope that Lightning will soon be a low-end WP7 device.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
Waaayyyyyyy too early to declare Dell WP7 king. Yea, the lightning looks pretty sweet but does anyone actually think HTC won't have something pretty awesome for the WP7 launch? How will the hardware quality be in the Dell device? Didn't HTC manufacture the old Axim devices? Who will make the Dell devices? So let's just wait at least til HTC's plans leak because one rendered device doesn't mean much at all.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Yep, HTC and, I would add, Samsung yet have to say something.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hoss_n2:
you seems to be new to hd2 ,hd2 now has 576 mb of ram unlocked by flashing new radio ,and the tmobile hd2 has 576 mb ram ot of box and 1gb rom
[Windows Phone 7 General] stained-steel:
Nope, not new to the HD2, don't have one! ;)

I'm not declaring Dell the new king of mobile phones or anything, but I found it interesting that they saw fit to release so many seemingly nice mobile devices in such a short span of time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
quantity not quality. they are the new kings for sure!

(just to contribute something senseless to a senseless thread)
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
As big as Samsung and HTC are in the phone world, I think Dell is still the bigger name overall for the general consumer in the US. If you lined up Joe Schmoe in front of Dell, Samsung, and HTC wp7 phones. Which are probably going to have pretty much the same functionality at launch. I think Joe would pick the Dell because of name recognition and it's stunning visual appearance.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Spike15:
You think Joe Schmoe has better name recognition for Dell than Samsung?

Dell makes computers.

Samsung makes TVs.

Think about that one for a while...
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
of course Samsung also has a good name recognition regarding mobile phones. Dell is big expensive computers, that's it. but of course we all here would choose HTC..... if it only wasn't running WP7 :rolleyes:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bryan whitlow:
I have a little kitchen experience in kitchen but don't know how to get a couple of apks from my windows machine onto my virtual machine want to add them in. and also want to know how to add a overclock kernel as far as Ive got is i have rom in zip and overclock kernel in zip. just want to post my version of cm5.0.6 with few extra apps and a few taken away with the overclock kernel in one zip. can post it as the two zips just flash rom from recovery do not reboot then flash kernel then reboots works fine but i want to add the extra apps and put it all in one easy flash zip thank you for all help.
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
Hey guys, recently I asked if you wanted to create a header image for my website, www.market4android.com, and I got a few submissions. It's now time to vote for the best designed header image to go on my website!

The submissions are below, please vote in the poll for the header that corresponds with it's number in the poll! This poll will last for 24 hours, so get your vote in now!

# 1

# 2

# 3

# 4
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
3...........................
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
So far, number 3's winning! Get your votes in now, only about twelve hours remain!
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
3................
[Hero CDMA General] thatjerk:
4 Pick 4 Damnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
One and a half hours left for voting!
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
Congrats to giovannizero for winning the header logo contest! I've PM'ed you with a little info so I can get this bad boy on the site!

TO everyone else who submitted, I really appreciate it, and Thank you for your work!

Be on the lookout for a mobile site version coming soon!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ksk622:
Hi all,

This post is about getting the orginal WWE Asia HTC HD2's font into Artermis ROM.

1) Install the attached cab

2) Soft reset

Note 1: I only tested in fresh ROM environment, which is V10,V11

Note 2: These files are taken from RUU_Leo_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.66.707.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe

One step closer to stock ROM "Philosophy" :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alexnvidia:
great work on the chinese font!

is there any way of getting the ezInput keyboard from 1.66 asia ROM to work on other custom ROMs as well? thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ksk622:
I am looking into this as well. will try my luck with the new version of "touch input". ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alexnvidia:
looking forward to your findings mate. cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ksk622:
temporary solution

I just tested with artermis v10 with the following

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6295918#post6295918

steps

1) download the attachment then extract all the files to a temp folder on your desktop

2) go files folder, copy & paste EzInputSettings.exe.0804.mui then rename the new file to EzInputSettings.exe.0409.mui

3) copy all the dll files from those folder name end with .ddl to parent folder (../files). you can skip HTCSipSrvc.dll

4) now go to your device, change SIP to other. change home to titanium

5) go to /windows folder and rename those dll file with same name you modified on your desktop temp folder to xxxx.dll.old( total is 11 files)

6) copy the temp folder on your desktop to your HD2

7) use total commander to move all the files inside files folder to /windows, replace all the dll & files (must make sure no overwrite error)

8) import app.reg

9) soft reset

Finally stock rom chinese support in WWE rom :D

Now just waiting for a kind soul to help to convert this into cab :)

UPDATE: Only pinyin and stroke is working...

ABOVE SOLUTION IS UNSUPPORTED NOW
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Leechoonhwee:
I was reading somewhere that wince.nls needs to be updated to support chinese input???
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ksk622:
Artermis ROM is using the global version of wince.nls, thats why make this possible. Eg: we can see the 5 chinese legions in setting....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] GiantMuffinMan:
+1

Great work =D

Is it possible to make something similar using the 1.72 HKCSL_WWE stock ROM for traditional Chinese character display and input?

Thanks!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] yunstar88:
i am also very interest in this ,anyone can help to have a CAB?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] hyperpsychodreamer:
yes please

+1

this would be a big help to a lot of users!

including me :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] hyperpsychodreamer:
global wince.nls

can you please upload a copy of the global wince.nls for those of us who arent on the artemis rom?

thanks :)

HPD
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ksk622:
Here it is... :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alexnvidia:
i replaced the wince.nls, but nothing happened. i still dont get the 5 chinese regions in regional settings. also, can you check if your first post method works for google maps 4.1? in google maps, under settings, speech language, there is an option for mandarin. all i get are square boxes.. it should write chinese language, in mandarin of course. any fix for this?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ksk622:
Maybe try the following:

- rename the existing wince.nls to wince.nls.old then copy the new one.

- inside your registry... remove this key [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink] then import the reg file from 1st post, if everything ok, only 5 entries will be recreated as following

"HelveticaNeue LT 35 Thin"="\\windows\\UCSH00B-gray.ttf,AR CrystalHeiU20 Bold(gray);\\windows\\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"

"Helvetica Neue OTS"="\\windows\\UCSH00B-gray.ttf,AR CrystalHeiU20 Bold(gray);\\windows\\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"

"Courier New"="\\windows\\UCSH00B-gray.ttf,AR CrystalHeiU20 Bold(gray)"

"Tahoma"="\\windows\\UCSH00B-gray.ttf,AR CrystalHeiU20 Bold(gray)"

"AR CrystalHeiU20 Bold(gray)"="\\windows\\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"

remember to soft reset ... then enjoy the new font ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ruffruff:
replacing the wince.nls directly doesn't work. You need to use it with reloadnls.exe which will have to be in the startup folder. do a search for it and you will find your answers. I used to write a thread for this as well, so you can try to search for it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] dioxda2:
that would be easy, if you guys really want it, I mean the traditional Chinese display and supports, ;)

I may make 2 cabs tonight :)

cab 1: CHT display (mingliu.ttc, pretty fonts) and input (from Samsung HK keyboard),

cab 2: same as the above but added wince.nls with Chinese regions.

please pm to me to show your request in order to let me work on it ( I am currently using the second method ;))
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] fuchikei:
wow~~thanks!!

it really helps~~

great work great work!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Leechoonhwee:
THat would be greeaaat....