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[HD2 General] mystik610:
It depends on what your uses and expectations are. In some aspects WM is inferior to iphone osx and android. In other aspects, the HD2 blows both of them out of the water.

I have an iPhone too, and for my uses, the HD2 is a far more capable phone.

It was confirmed that the HD2 would not be upgradable to WP7 weeks before it came to T-Mobile USA. No offense, but that was probably something you should have confirmed fully before you spent all that money.

That being said, WM is a very capable, customizable OS. I didn't like my HD2 nearly as much when I first got it as I do now. After tweaking it over the past couple of weeks, I can say with complete honesty that other than the apps, the HD2 runs laps around my iPhone. Its faster, has a better web browser, and thanks to sense, all my core functions easily accesible. No need to open a SMS app, an e-mail app, a twitter app etc etc. All those functions are laid out in front of you. The interface is also much sleeker looking and attractive overall. The iPhones interface is really showing its age.

If you want to get the most of your phone, flash the ROM. I'm using Energy ROM with cookies home tab 1.7. Its a straight-forward, easy to use ROM. The interfaced is tweaked to make it easier to use....plus its very stable...haven't had a crash since I installed it. There wasn't much else I needed to do to my HD2 after flashing to this ROM.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
The HD2 will not have an official WinPhone 7 upgrade. I'd prefer WinMo 6.5 anyways. And I think compared to android and iphone, Windows mobile is much better, more versatile, and much more powerful. I admit it's not as user friendly. You might want to return it if you don't like WM.
[HD2 General] aceo07:
Return your phone, get the Nexus 1 or Evo. Or wait for the iPhone 4g.
[HD2 General] domineus:
told ya 2 every week
[HD2 General] SEscobedo:
I think the constant bombardment of threads asking about android ports to HD2 is getting annoying but at the same time it just goes to show how much more annoying the current WM OS is. I realize all you hardcore WM fans laugh at everybody who seems to get pulled into the HD2 hype but its really disappointing for some of us who did come from a phone that was a lot simpler where we didn't have to fight with the phone just to send a text message or surf the web. I want to believe in my phone but when I'm willing to go back to the simplistic nature of the iPhone 3G (and I'm not alone), it just goes to show how much WM just isn't. Someone said that you can do more on WM then you can on the iPhone OS. True it may not be locked down near as much as the iPhone is but the iPhone has some of the best applications on any phone out in the market. And a lot of that is due to the fact that the iPhone is locked down and due to Apple's strict app approval process. Then you look at Microsoft Marketplace and its a joke. Some of the apps that are for sale (don't even get me started on that) are so old, they aren't even useful anymore. The only thing the HD2 has going for it is its powerhouse performance and the awesome mods that seem to think that the HD2 can be better.

I am not hating the HD2 or even the WM OS. I just think that if Windows looked at what Apple has done and try to improve on that, things would be a whole lot better. Everybody mods their phones. Even iPhones get jailbroken. But atleast the majority of the apps that are in Cydia are not there to fix problems that are wrong with the iPhone OS; but to improve upon it. The majority of the apps for WM devices are there to correct problems with the phones.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
Microsoft is doing exactly what apple does with their WinPhone7. They're making it locked down and more user friendly for everyday people. I'd prefer WinMo 6.5, though. And there are lots who agree. I don't have any problems using WinMo, and can do everything with ease. I don't want Microsoft to "look at what apple has done and improve on that". WinMo is exactly the way I want it to be. If they locked it down and made it easier like apple, it would not be as functional and versatile as it is. It won't be as customizable. To gain simplicity, you'll lose versatility.I don't want that. If you want something like the iphone, get an iphone. Don't say MS should change their OS to be like apples (which actually they are doing for future releases, unfortunately). If you want something simpler, get something simpler. I wanted a new WinMobile phone, so thats why I got an HD2. Why did you get an HD2? Because of hype? There's hype about the iphone 3gs... why didn't you get that? You should still do research on a phone even if there is hype. You should choose a smartphone based on what operating system you use, just like you would a computer. You wouldn't buy a linux based computer that you didn't know how to use, would you?
[HD2 General] SEscobedo:
actually I traded the iphone 3gs 32gb for my hd2. and yes I did check out all the reviews and video comparisons that you tube and engadget had to offer. iphone killer? hardly. hardware specs yes but it's like taking a Bugati and replacing the software that runs it with that of a ford taurus. and you can't blame HTC as the hardware is working just fine. you say your phone is working just fine but for every person that saying their phone is fine, there are 5 threads stating otherwise. you can have winmo however you like it, I just want my phone to work out of the box without having to reboot it 3 times a day.

And it's pretty sad that HTC has to create a mask to cover winmo's looks. It's like me putting a mask over my girlfriend's face because I'm too embarrassed to be around her. what is the point of marrying a product with an operating system if even the manufacturer is embarrassed for users to see it?
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
People usually only post when there's problems. You don't find most people posting that there phone works fine and has no problems. For every 5 threads of people complaining, theres probably hundreds of happy users. And what are you talking about iphone killer? Its a completely different kind of phone and os for completely different types of users. If you were an iphone user, why did you trade it for the HD2? Why don't you go back to iphone if you don't like WinMo?
[HD2 General] jubeh:
HD2 will get Android, make no mistake about it, the community will make it happen. The real issue here is when it will get it.

If you got the phone to put Android on it right now, then it's not the phone for your. If you got it because you wanted an Android phone with the best specs, then by the time Android is running perfectly on the device there'll be better, faster phones.

I got it because I wanted Android on it, but I want to get Android on it myself. I got it as a sort of hobby because now I'll be able to tweak, and turn, and customize, and part of my customization goals is to get Android to load and maybe use it as my daily OS.

But, in the mean time (and I think this is where we're on different situations), I know that the device is a WinMo device, and knowing so has also picked my interest to learn how to work/customize WinMo and make it into something I'll enjoy. That's what XDA is all about. It's sort of the way it was for me when I first used a linux distro. I wanted to rip the hairs off of my head and would be frustrated at how much work it took to do some things I took for granted in Windows. But after working with it for some time, and knowing how it was different, and learning how to use it, now there are tasks that I do in linux that I just can't find myself doing in Windows, so I have both loaded on my computer.

Take the time to work with WinMo, understand that it's different. Only then you'll start seeing how different can mean better in different areas.
[HD2 General] SEscobedo:
Don't get me wrong now, I didn't get this phone to try and find a Android port or WP7 port. I actually traded it because I already know everything there is to know about the iPhone and it was starting to bore me. I wanted to find a phone that would get my tech juices flowing; atleast until the iPhone HD comes. I saw this phone and from all standpoints it looked like and for the most part is still a really nice piece of technology. When I first saw the phone up front I called it Edward's phone cuz the screen sparkles in the sunlight. I think HTC did as good of a job as they could trying to hide as much WM as they could. Some reviews said you have to dwelve pretty deep into the phone to get to WM but I found that to be untrue. Why do I still have it? Because I still have an iPhone 3G and feel like if I give up on the HD2 now, I will never see the full potential of this phone. The 3G is not as fast as my 3GS or even the HD2 but in a world of simpler is better, the iPhone just fits. So for right now my HD2 is my secondary phone when my iPhone battery dies.

But taking out the stock MicroSD card really does help. I really think there should be a some sort of recall on those SD cards if that many people are having issues with them.
[HD2 General] takgeun68:
hmmmm thx for the information....I just found out about flashing the phones with other roms....did not know i could do that with my hd2

well that being known i guess i could get the most out of my hd2

And i do totally agree that iphone does not come near my hd2 in many aspects

just have to tweaked it to my ways...

any advice of available roms? for my tm hd? and also...where can I get GPS software like tomtom, garmin, igo or copilot? where can I purchase/download them?
[HD2 General] hazard99:
I have said it once and Ill say it again.

I did buy my Hd2 in hopes that android would be ported.

BUt over all I am happy with my decision to buy it.

Some people forget that its easy just to say go buy this phone or that phone.

but Some people dont have service with those companies or have had bad experiences'

I love my hd2 but i can admit when I see more Dev's working on Iphone apps.

Android suffers from that same fate. But they are gaining more and more.

I have had my hd2 since the US lauch. The first few days were fustrating. Its gotten easy as I have found roms that make it perform so much better.

One thing I have also learned is .. We techies are the minority. Phones are not designed with us in mind. Phones are designed with the majority in mind .

Yes the Iphone is dumb down. No one cares how it works aslong as it works.

Once we get use to that everything will be gravey.

being An original Iphone user for more than 2 years I can honestly say it gets old after a while.

Ill stick with my Hd2
[HD2 General] josemedina1983:
I cant really say this enough but windows mobile and S60 to me are the only Operating systems that never bow down to the apple trend. Sure S60 and windows mobile were the last ones to get pinch to zoom and capacitive touch screen and people might say oh look their following android and apple. but in all reality s60 and windows mobile innovated the market for what it is now. who came out with the email and PDA system back in the day people would drool to have that windows did! who came out with the crazy camera and media power house N95 s60 did. compare to what android and apple are innovating comes wayyyyy short what windows mobile and s60 have done.
[HD2 General] Godson1227:
Well I don't have to open a new thread now I'll just kinda change this one...I really want this phone cause well it's an awesome phone but the thing that has held me back has been the OS. I owned and still have a tilt and I loved that phone til the screen cracked so I moved on and tried out a G1 and I hated it but after playing with it for a while and the customization of the phone and the growth of the market I love android now and can't see myself goin back now I have a MT3G so it's been almost a year and I wanna upgrade again. Ok my point is I've googled HD2 with android to see if it had been accomplished yet sadly no but I found a lot of results saying that T-MO will have an OTA android update for the HD2 later this summer. Idk how true this is but a number of ppl in the t-mo forums have discussed this saying that tmo reps have told them this will happen to compete with the Evo. It will supposedly dual boot I guess you'll have an option of which os u wanna run...Any thoughts how likely is or is it just BS imo I think it's to good to be true lol
[HD2 General] josemedina1983:
Im just gonna say this no matter how far we get booting android it will never be as good as an android device unless its flashed to it if you buy a windows mobile device is because you like it not for what ever hacks come out. its like those people that buy hondas and toyotas and turn them too look like an audi or a ferrari or a bentley you buy a device because your happy for what it is not for what you can turn it into. what happen if xda developers banish everyone its going to throw their android and windows to the trash??? first be happy with what you have then be happy what you can do
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I can pretty much guarantee that that is bs. They are not gonna have an official update to put android on the hd2. It's a WinMo phone... they don't just update phones with different OS's.
[Droid Incredible General] rkaplins:
I read that the Nexus One is going to get WiFi 802.11 n support but I couldn't tell from the Verizon page if the Incredible already has it.

Does anyone know?
[Droid Incredible General] peanut_butter:
It supports 802.11a and 802.11n out of the box

Sent from my Droid using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Droid Incredible General] sn95chico:
i dont think it does support wireless N
[Droid Incredible General] mejdam:
earlier reports said wireless n support but nothing about that in the official verizon specs
[Droid Incredible General] hoss_n2:
you guys need to get one and open it to find out it it contains a certain model of bradcom chip which exists in (desire , nexus one & hd2 )
[Droid Incredible General] deekjx:
aka, if the drivers aren't there now, they will be at some point in the future. The interesting thing about that broadcom chip is that it supports an FM transmitter so that you can tune your car radio to a particular station and hear the audio from your phone. No driver support yet and no confirmation if we need anything aside from this chip.
[Droid Incredible General] sn95chico:
about wireless N

From what i have read it dose not have wireless N

its does have wireless 802.11 b/g but no N sorry guys
[Droid Incredible General] mejdam:
Same information was said about the nexus one until someone opened it and found out it was N compatible.
[Droid Incredible General] Godracos:
I'm pretty sure they'll have the same chip as he N1, can't imagine they use another one, but you can be sure that someone's gonna tear appart the device when it comes out for the masses.
[Droid Incredible General] adrianh85:
i hear n support will be enabled with the 2.2 release!!
[Droid Incredible General] jbh00jh:
It will be enabled for sure with the 2.2 update.
[Droid Incredible General] deekjx:
what's your source?

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[Droid Incredible General] jbh00jh:
VZW source.
[Droid Incredible General] drhill:
So when do they expect this update?
[Droid Incredible General] two_cents:
I dont have an N router anyway... but under specs on most pages I read it says b/g/n...

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/04/13/htc-incredible-specs/

last spec in the left column
[Droid Incredible General] jitajt:
Incredible can see N wifi signals

I put my wireless router to N only broadcast and I can see it but it will not connect, so I think that it has it but is just disabled. because if it didn't support wireless N it wouldn't even see it as a connectible wifi hotspot
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] StaitEdgetEdge:
Hey guys,

I was just wondering if anyone knew of a completely transparent rss widget, similar to the look of pure calendars transparent skin.

thanks
[HD2 General] dailydriver:
Hey guys, for the past week, I've been having a headache on this isue.

I have two TMOUS HD2's.

I installed HSPL 2.x on mine and left the wife's alone.

Mine connects to 3G for the first hour or so and switches to Edge permanently. Sometime it flashes between E, 3G and G.

Every time I restored it to factory, it would stay on 3G for an hour and jump back to E for ever.

The wifes has all the same applications and tweaks installed and she gets 3G all the time period.

Keep in mind that we both still has stock from shipped from the 24th. Only difference is that I have HSPL installed, because I was still reading up on flashing roms.

I called up Tech support and no one new what was going on. Of course I didn't tell them I had HSPL installed.

Finally yesterday afternoon. I removed HSPL from my phone and it's always on 3G now. Never connected to Edge anymore. I'm not too sure about having HSPL on it anymore.

Someone please look into this (HSPL), because I would love to try some roms.

Or do you have to use custom roms only after installing HSPL. I guess, you can't have HSPL and stock rom together or it'll mess with the radio.

Thanks.
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
I will try it later and let you know what I come up with, but it does make sense. I started having issues with connections right after I HardSPL'ed my phone... It was working great when I first got it.

Stock SPL... here I go!
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
you dont have to leave hspl installed. You can install it, flash your rom, then reset spl to 2.08.0000. It just wont flash again until you reinstal hspl

(edit in fact i just reset mine to 2.08.0000, see if i can see a diff with the radio on my euro leo.)
[HD2 General] xeebot:
FWIW, I've had HSPL 2.x on my TMOUS HD2 since it was released and have never had any 3G issues. I've never flashed a ROM, but I have done several mods to the OS/Sense. Hope you figure this out, kind of sounds like the same issue with the 3G on the Nexus-1 with TMO.
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
To the risk of sounding like a complete noob, how do you put the original SPL back on? Flashing original rom with SPL from SD card? or is there an alternative method?
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
im assuming hspl1024 works like hspl2, in that when you run the program on the pc, it has a choice of 2.08.0000 and 2.08.hspl? Well choose 2.08.0000 and it will reset spl on your phone to 2.08.0000, , , which is stock, , , and teh rom will still run. You just cant flash rom.radio again till you run hspl1024 and choose 2.08.hspl.

(am i wrong? does hspl1024 not offer the two options? mines a euro leo so i use hspl2)
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
It works fine... I feel like such a ret@rd :rolleyes: Thanks for pointing it out :cool:
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] btdag:
So i'm thinking of setting up Apps2SD on my Hero.

I have a fast SD card, and the latest recovery image (see sig)

To get it correctly working what do I do?

Is it:

1. Go into recovery mode

2. Partition sdcard > Partition sd

3. Swap-size ?

Ext2-size: 512 ?

FAT32-size remainder?

4. Then reflash Villain ROM?

or will it go automatically without a re-flash?

Please edit as appropriate.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bonesy:
Firstly this should be in the Q&A section not android development.

I dont use swap,i havent since i stopped using the Magic.So personally i would and have chosen 0 i found using swap made Rosie restart whenever i exited a HTC app.

EXT i would have 128 or 256.

REMAINDER FAT32

The process you have given is right all u have to do if see if the rom you want has apps2sd.Install the rom through ADB

adb remount

adb shell

su

(press always allow on the phone)

apps2sd on

it will say something like done please reboot.

Reboot your phone and it should be done!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] btdag:
This is in Q&A ...

I have read that 512 EXT is recommended for A2SD so i'll stick with that. Thanks for the info about swap.

I know the rom i am using has a2sd, so if i repartition the sd then do the adb commands in recovery mode, or whilst in the os?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bonesy:
Ah my bad bout Q&A Section...

Enter those commands in the android OS using ADB
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] btdag:
Thanks for the help! i got it set up and working. Turns out VillainRom.co.uk also have a brilliant wiki page covering it.
[Android Apps and Games] elecious:
what would a typical URL look like when going straight through to a marketplace app such as google maps etc?

i want to mess around with some QR's but have no idea how to link them straight through to an app.

cheers for any help.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] awliyah:
Does anyone know if this is possible or available. Would be so nice.

To have a carousel function (similar to the SBP Shell panels carousel) that can either replace the sense slider or work as a stand alone app.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] SolusCado:
That would definitely be cool, but I am pretty sure there is nothing like that at the moment.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] snowblind2142:
I agree, would be nice!

But not going to happen...:(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pepesz:
You never know... :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Finezt:
it would be better if you can Flick the home screen up and down endlessly like a kinda cirkel,

don't know if you'll understand my idea but like this,

if you Flick up you can get to the manila player, further up you'll get to albums further up you get a blank page it would be cool of you can put widgets over there and you flick again you get cookies home tab and another flick to get back at manila home screen.

hope ya'll understand my idea

sorry for my english
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] awliyah:
I sort of get what u mean. That would be sort of similar to the current sense slider but with 2 differences; Upwards/downwards scrolling instead of side to side. And different animation style for the transition of each page (flip, fold, flick etc). Nice idea...bu I would prefer the carousel better.

Had a look around the SPB shell threads and got the impression that there may be legal / patent related stuff that means the "carousel" is only for "spb mobile shell". So currently using both on my HD2 and a neat toggle switch app to change between Sense & SPB. ALthough SPB is nice (lots of eye candy) I prefer Sense (smoothness & speed) but would love that carousel or something similar.

I know nothing about apps & programming (should have paid more attention in IT classes) so just hoping someone here latches onto the idea.:o
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] awliyah:
Do I see some hope.:rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DN41:
would like to have a helicopter view like its on desire or legend... ;)

DN41
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] snowblind2142:
Really hope so but from what i've seen and read I don't think its possible..:(
[Nexus One General] sbq:
Greetings,

I have a brand new Nexus One and I am eager to void the warranty.

I have downloaded the Android Eclair source (v2.1r2) and built the system image (system.img) and it works great on the Android emulator. I am hoping this forum will tell me two things:

1. What do I do differently to build a system image for the Nexus one? I'm pretty sure I'm going to need different drivers and libraries - how do I get them and how do I insert them into my build process?

2. How do I get (flash) the system image onto the Nexus one phone? I'm guessing I use this command: fastboot flash system system.img, but I'm not sure.

Thanks. I apologize in advance if this is the wrong forum for these questions.

-Sam
[HD2 General] kameleongt:
one of my friends is running the stock rom on tmo. This is her second hd2 as the first has issues and now this one when a sms is being sent it will send a blank txt. Has this been an issue with anyone? any help would be appreciated. thanks!! :)
[HD2 General] Deiota:
I do have the same problem!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HD2 General] fiendskillz:
no problem for me, did you try looking at all the sms and sending methods to see its correctly going to the server and stuff?