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[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Ah ok, just read this.

We might have overreacted when using the word broken to refer to the Nexus One’s multitouch performance, but that post helped us learn the true culprit of the issue. When we took a closer look at HTC’s touch sensors used in their Android phones, we discovered they were using the Synaptics ClearPad 2000.

It turned out there was nothing wrong with the ClearPad sensor. It was working as advertised and was never meant to track the multiple touches that we were expecting. Google is likely to improve the multitouch performance with future software updates, but the Nexus One (and other HTC phones) will always be limited in what they can do with the Synaptics hardware.

HTC must have anticipated Google’s move to a more multitouch friendly Android because new reports suggest the handset maker has upgraded their touch sensors in two upcoming models. Various sources are now reporting that HTC is using the Atmel maXTouch family of touchscreen controllers in the upcoming Droid Incredible and EVO 4G.

The Atmel maXTouch sensors (mxt224) offer superior performance and low power consumption. These new sensors recognize an unlimited number of touches, offer faster response times, and have an excellent signal-to-noise ratio.

Atmel has produced a quick promo video to demonstrate the power of their maXTouch series. A complete series of videos is available on the Atmel site for additional details.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8weBw6M9HHY
​

Looks like it is indeed a different screen.

N1 uses Synaptics ClearPad 2000

Incredible (and Evo) use Atmel maXTouch

Man, I'm jealous of the Incredible now. :(

[Edit]: And wow, that promo video is pretty ridiculous lol :D
[Nexus One General] PacoL250:
Man ain't that a bummer for us N1 owners. :(

Though having multi-touch is useful more while browsing and such; I really don't play games on my device minus the occasional dabbling with NESoid, and even then I use the trackball and volume up/down buttons.
[Nexus One General] erikku:
The Atmel mxt224 is dual touch just like the Synaptics panel in the N1.

In the grand scheme of things, it really changes nothing. Just bragging rights over the N1. ;) I can hardly wait for the noise from the V camp!!! :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] adam18488:
im quite hurt that the Incredible has google written on the back of it.

The nexus one is the google phone...not the incredible. After seeing that picture...my phone isn't as special as it used to be:( its just another htc phone:(
[Nexus One General] PacoL250:
IIRC, the Motorola Droid has "Google" written on it too. Not sure if other Android phones have that on them as well though.

Wouldn't be surprised if they did.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
ALL Android phones have Google on the back.

The important thing is that the Nexus One says GOOGLE in really large font on the back, with "HTC" really small on the bottom.

On the Incredible, this is switched.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
... wth, at first I didn't care about all these Android phones coming out - I don't need an 8mp camera, nor do I need more RAM or ROM, and I was proud of having "the Google phone". I also don't give a crap about our multi-touch differences, but for them to include a touch screen that can recognize and UNLIMITED number of points and faster response times.. to phones that will be heavily compared to the Nexus.. they have went a little too far.

I know we will get Froyo, and everything awesome first.. - but this is just not right. This Nexus better not be looked down upon, I had the best of the best, and now the un informed people of the community will believe the Evo and Incredible are better than the Nexus more than they thought before..

I can't switch to Sprint or Verizon regardless.. but I now am irritated.. HTC needs to calm down with these phone releases.
[Nexus One General] faizalmzain:
the soft keys issues has been solved long time ago provided you rooted your phone.

and N1 pinky camera also has been fixed in cyan 5.0.6, no more pinky in the middle of picture
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I rooted my phone months ago, and haven't noticed a change. How does rooting magically change the sensor's location?
[Nexus One General] :
Those phones say "with google experience" because they come loaded with the google apps and adhere to the terms of google to not put any extra crap bundled software from the carriers.

Rooting doesn't, cyanogen does.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
This officially pisses me off about my N1... I really hope there is a hard mod that comes out where we can install new tech screens
[Nexus One General] resinous:
the Nexus 1 is becoming the Sega dreamcast of superphones.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
I don't think storage, hard buttons, camera, and HTC Sense makes the phone obsolete. When phones with faster processors come out, then obviously we should worry.
[Nexus One General] resinous:
lol, maxtouch does make it obsolete though.
[Nexus One General] Mi|enko:
Man do I miss the DC. . .
[Nexus One General] resinous:
I still have mine in perfect condition ^_^
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
when apps dont work right because the phone lacks the capability to perform certain tasks that the app requires such as multitouch with axis crossing, the whole phone is worthless at that point...
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
When games like that come out, our apps in general that I actually care about - I will agree.
[Nexus One General] erikku:
It's still a dual touch panel. If it could register more than two fingers, then yes....
[Nexus One General] temperbad:
That's OK, but when were officially updated with froyo it will not be for a while, unless of course custom roms.

Are there any games out worth playing anyways? This so called crossing axis dealeo never effect my normal usage of this phone, and there's not many multitouch games anyways, and common do ya really think there's gonna be a flood gates of mad games anytime soon? I don't....

I agree it could bother some... but I don't play games on my phone, and there's gonna be something else in a few month better Specd... but with a 1.5 ghz snapdragon and etc..

I for one wouldn't give this up to be on Verizon's expensive network with horrible customer service and a slightly better (depends on your reasoning) phone or screen... without even knowing really how this phone is...

I can honestly say I'd rather have the n1 anyways due to looks, stock android and not many people have em so ill be a individual baby...

I'm done chasing a extra spec to get a boner, I'm happy with mY n1 and unless the phone gives me a blow job or something, the incredible wont be able to do anything any different or better and if so by a ****as hair. ..

Enjoy the nexus one guys, Google's baby, I like this experience....

Peace
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I agree. The Incredible definitely is slightly better, due to the camera and the multitouch panel. If you don't play games, the multitouch panel makes 0 difference in day-to-day usage (I have no issues myself). So that leaves just the camera.

There's no reason to upgrade until we start seeing some 1.5 GHz phones.

But who knows when that will be?

6 months? 9? 12+?
[Nexus One General] prettyboy85712:
I believe HTC's roadmap shows 1.5GHz slated for Q4 2010.
[Nexus One General] INeedYourHelp:
it seems smartphones are even worse then desktops/laptops when it comes to becoming outdated...
[Nexus One General] fmcgirt:
I have the N1 on TMO and it is a great phone except for the signal fluctuation on 3G as discussed in this link:

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=0c0fb2a46ad64955&hl=en&start=2680

There is also the problem of the antenna location at the bottom so you have to hold the N1 by your fingertips at the top away from your palm to get good reception in less than really strong signal areas. The signal fluctuation has already been reported by at least one reviewer on the Incredible so it seems that HTC/Google still haven't taken care of the problem and this could be a major headache for VZ. I would love to have the phone but I can't deal with another reception issue like on the N1 so I plan to wait for the reports from actual users to come in.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Is it confirmed that the antenna is at the bottom of the phone?

I'd love to see video tests of someone covering it with their hand with the dBm app showing.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
which apps does this issue effect as of now though? none. i do agree that if and when games come out, this could be an issue. but it doesnt effect the basic functions like pinch to zoom in any apps.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
the problem is ALL manufacturers are now putting antenna in the bottom. my nokia n97, e71, n97 mini, etc they all have the same problem. with my n97 mini i have to hold it at the top cause the signal will drop completely just like the nexus one. so i'm kinda used to it. its seems safety is coming before convenience in the last 2 years so they dont radiate our brains:D.
[Nexus One General] fmcgirt:
Me too! And I wasn't trying to say that the antenna at the bottom was causing all the problems with the poor 3G RF performance of N1. I think that was only part of it together with some problems with the TMO network as well as the radio front end in the N1. What is so bothersome is the almost non-existent response on the part of HTC or Google to acknowledge or make any attempts to fix the problem. At least with the Incredible one will be able to go back to VZ with any problems while the customer support with HTC was terrible and didn't exist with Google.
[Nexus One General] :
I love how everyone is crying about this phone.

Everyone is saying how great their Nexus One was, and now they're sad that this phone is better. Does this phone change your phone in any way? No. Does it really make you less happy with your phone just because there's a newer alternative out there?

Holy crap, people, let's keep some perspective.

If you were happy with your phone before, this does nothing to change your phone at all. Your phone is EXACTLY THE SAME. So enjoy it.

If you were unhappy with your phone before, this does nothing to change that, either, except now you have an option if your unhappiness stemmed from the things that the Incredible corrects.

If you honestly thought that a piece of technology in a field as rapidly changing/growing as the smartphone market, was going to remain technologically superior for very long, then you were deluding yourself.

If you simply purchased a phone that suited your needs for a price that you found acceptable, then the same phone still suits your needs and the price you paid didn't change.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
I knew a superior phone to the Nexus would be released, just didn't expect it so soon - nor did I expect it to really have anything worth making it "better". A new screen entirely though, kinda irritated me. I don't care, now, though.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
there are a few videos on youtube showing this. or are you talking about the Incredible?
[Nexus One General] jasrups:
Here's my take:

Would I like to have this screen in my Nexus? Yea it would have been a nice feature. Do I need this screen? No, not in the slightest.. Not yet anyways. The only apps that would require a screen like that are games, and I don't play the type of games on my phone that would require axis-crossing multitouch. I know some people do, and I can respect that but I don't, hence why I don't care about this right now.

Frankly, if you're playing those kinds of games anyways, just get an iPhone (and I'm not saying that in a bad way). iPhone is unmatched when it comes to gameplay and plus you can get them all for free if you jailbreak. Yea The Incredible has a capable screen, but do you know long it's going to take Android to catch up to Apple when it comes to game quality?? Android just got games like Racing Thunder 2 and Homerun Battle 3D while you can play Street Fighter 4 and freaking Grand Theft Auto on the iPhone! It's no competition.. if you want to game, you don't have the right phone.

By the time Android actually starts developing games and apps that can take advantage of the axis crossing MT, The Incredible will be "obsolete" (as some of you like to put it) so no need for everyone to get their panties in a bunch ;)

With most things I normally have a realist perspective and am usually the first to 'hate' on something when its deserved, but alot of you guys are just a bunch of downers. The Incredible is a great phone as is the Nexus, everyone should just appreciate what they have! If you keep chasing the newest technology (no matter how impractical it is) you will never be satisfied!
[Nexus One General] TFJ4:
I think people that truly brace Android should be happy about this phone even if you don't plan on getting it. I know I am. The Droid has gotten a lot of developers that otherwise wouldn't write apps, to write apps for android. With the Evo 4G and Incredible coming soon, I hope they both do amazingly well, something will beat both of them soon too but all of them and the Nexus are amazing devices.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Yes, talking about the Incredible. Thought that was a given :D
[Nexus One General] tanman1975:
nice phone, but no noise cancelling feature?

The noise canceling feature on the Nexus One is astounding.

I was in a convertible going 70 mph down the freeway and my wife could hear me perfectly (she couldn't even tell I was in a convertible).

Same for my hard of hearing dad when he called while I was in the middle of a crowd.

As much as I love this phone's other features, the noise canceling is a must for me from now on.
[Nexus One General] rvinny:
I like your perspective. You brought me down from the ledge.
[Nexus One General] attn1:
Exactly. No manufacturer wants to fight safety lawsuits, however idiotic they can be.
[Nexus One General] rori~:
My two cents is that HTC Incr. is for sure a nice phone..but for now, Nex1 only and the next one will be the next GooglePhone :)
[Nexus One General] jasrups:
Good, there's no need to jump!
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
You keep saying this, but the original text mentioned that it had "unlimited number of touches" (not quite true, but 10 is realistically good enough for most 10-fingered humanoids) and this data sheet confirms that it supports "true multitouch" with independent tracking for up to 10 concurrent touches.
[Nexus One General] totorip:
this one

really feel slow when i compare it to my HTC desire

i think its mostly because its in "3D-like"...anyway just swype ur finger fast and ull see its not following exactly. where in other menu it does

anyway to change it to a desire-like one?

thx
[Nexus One General] PrawnPoBoy:
Search for HelixLauncher in the Android Market and give it a try. Once it is installed you can press the Home key and you'll be given a choice of which launcher to use. The HelixLauncher will replace this applications menu with a non-3D, but faster, list. There is also HelixLauncher2 which keeps the 3D effect, but it's not as fast or stable yet.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] luckyvictor:
is there an HTC sense 2.5 installation cab file available on this forum?

All I found is only for cooking, since I have a clean windows 6.5 ROM and I would like the HTC Sense 2.5 to be my interface. The spb shell does not look as pretty as Sense.

Many thanks in advance
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] c2b2:
I think you will have to install a new ROM with sense 2.5 pre installed.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] zntx:
貌似没有HTC Sense 2.5的安装包…我想你只能刷机解决了…
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] supersanj:
as mentioned above. there is no cab to fully install Sense 2.5. You have to flash a ROM that has Sense 2.5 cooked in.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] eshqy:
I have been flash 5 diiferent rom with sense 2.5, my personal opinion this one is the best http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=593678 :D:D

but if you want sense 2.1 cab, Check this out http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=605252. by some reason after i install this cab, my diamond works so slow, maybe you have try Gen.y version. maybe it's better. good luck.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] luckyvictor:
Do you know the correct procedure for flashing the radio? would you please take a look of the problem I posted?

many thanks

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=669665
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jonnydopemsr:
How the heck do you do this? I just need to move the percent of the battery over to the left just a tad bit in the status bar...

Thank you!!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] britoso:
I remember someone did this for the latest cyanogen rom, maybe you can compare two versions of the xml/code.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jonnydopemsr:
LOL I just figured it out... lol its the services.jar file and i just took it from the BlackMatteMorph to fix it :-D but I want to thank you for the help :-D

EDIT: yea it worked but it screwed up my rom... back to the boards lol...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] david1171:
What do you mean it screwed up your ROM, I am attempting to do the same as well, so any info you can give will help.

EDIT:

Think I may have found it. After baksmali-ing the services.jar/classes.dex and comparing it to the one in that morph you said, I found the following in /com/android/server/status/StatusBarIcon.smali

.line 99
iget-object v6, p0, Lcom/android/server/status/StatusBarIcon;->mNumberView:Landroid/widget/TextView;

new-instance v7, Landroid/widget/FrameLayout$LayoutParams;

const/16 v8, 0x15

invoke-direct {v7, v9, v9, v8}, Landroid/widget/FrameLayout$LayoutParams;-><init>(III)V

in the CM 5.0.6 one and

.line 99
iget-object v6, p0, Lcom/android/server/status/StatusBarIcon;->mNumberView:Landroid/widget/TextView;

new-instance v7, Landroid/widget/FrameLayout$LayoutParams;

invoke-direct {v7, v9, v9, v11}, Landroid/widget/FrameLayout$LayoutParams;-><init>(III)V

in the BlackMatte one.

After changing the last v8 in 5.0.6 to v11, the text was set far to the left, I am now currently messing around with different values there to find the "sweet spot" for what I need.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jonnydopemsr:
nice and thank you! one thing though is once i do the baksmali-ing do i just do a smali to make it back to a services.jar file?

and by screwed up my rom... i have been messing around but when i popped in the classes.dex from the hero bar if you touched the livewallpaper background it did a type of "soft-crash" and yea that wasnt good lol...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] david1171:
after you baksmali the classes.dex, then you will need to smali the output files to make it into a classes.dex that you can reinsert into the services.jar

java -Xmx512M -jar smali.jar location/of/output/files -o classes.dex
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jonnydopemsr:
Okay that makes sense now and thank you!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] david1171:
I was only to make it look a little worse by messing with those files :rolleyes:

Let me know if you get anything good looking out of it, or if you find out anything else about it.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jonnydopemsr:
will do!

i just need to move it like the guy had it in his pic i saw on the metamoph post screen shot here forum, cuz i am using those battery icons as well.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jonnydopemsr:
SOLVED! posting new thread!
[HD2 General] Frizzel:
Do you guys know if there is a screen shot/capture feature on this phone. Im certain there is because I have accidently taken screen shots of web pages when I have been surfing using opera. Havent been able to work out how I did it though.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
look up shakeandsave
[HD2 General] jezash:
or - if you're connected to a pc - just use mymobiler
[HD2 General] umiss:
BsB Tweaks also offer this functionality!
[HD2 General] Frizzel:
Isnt there built in functionality for that? There must be since I somehow managed to do it by accident.
[HD2 General] umiss:
Not that I'm aware of.

I have however stumbled upon a couple of screenshots, mostly used for thumbnails though. Dunno if that's the case?
[HD2 General] simeezee:
that's what i use. nice small program gets the job done.
[HD2 General] mideel:
do you use a custom-rom? maybe the romcooker added this functionality by himself?
[HD2 General] LiquidGlow:
BSB Tweaks has this functionality built in and it works flawlessly (even captures video screenshots).
[HD2 General] simeezee:
What's the default location where you saved the screen shots?
[HD2 General] Frizzel:
No sir. Just the standard ROM.

Im 99% certain that its possible. 1% doubt as it only tends to capture the opera browser. Still, it proves that the functionality is definitely available.
[Sable] ComfySofa:
Hi - im trying to find the above radio firmware - ive downloaded a link on here to mediafire which had the link for the 0.89 radio firmware, i flashed it but it still says 0.88 on the boot screen? Does anyone have the confirmed 0.89 firmware to hand??
[Sable] Zemun_PFC:
download here:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...swLang=13&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=hh-71297-1

read the description and release notes - This package updates only the products supporting the following SKU IDs or Product IDs: FA988AA#ABB, FA988AT#ABB, FA992AA#ABB, FB136AA#ABB, and FA992AT#ABB.
[Sable] ComfySofa:
yup - thats the ticket - takes time though (about 30 mins or so) and it needs a reboot after its booted to see the firmware update - again, thanks very much - im finally there....
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwanbis:
I'm looking to buy a G1, for AT&T like provider.

So, i need to use a SIM card that is not TMobile.

Can ANY G1 be unlocked?

Is unlocking same as rooting, or is more like unlocking/jailbreaking on the iPhone?

VERY sorry for the newbines.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwanbis:
As far as i have read, unlocking has to be done by Tmobile only, is that so?

And as i have thought, has nothing to do with rooting.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleeepy2:
you can buy unlock codes all over the interwebs and ebay.

They need your IME number and your money. Then they will provide you with the code to enter when you put in a non T-mobile sim card.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwanbis:
What would be a fair price for that? Is it legal? Any recommended places?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sleeepy2:
ebay has them for about $10.

It is legal as far as I know, T-Mobile will just give it to you for free if you have been with them long enough.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwanbis:
Yes, i was just seeing them for about 10 on ebay.

Thanks.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borodin1:
However, why would you buy G1 for at&t and be stuck on edge network when you can buy Rogers Dream and actually be able to use 3G?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigWorldJust:
LoL, I'll give you my G1 >_>..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bombjer:
Hi

I have made a foolish thing and i need help

I install some dll files for the top bar and after reboot the windows fail to boot

I know i can do a hard reset to fix the phone but i have some files in the internal memory from a program that i need to save. There are important files from my work

Is there any way that i can save them?

Please i am desperate
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce Inman:
You say Windows fails to boot, does your device start up? or does it go into a booting loop?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bombjer:
The device start up but it stuck in the backround image of the today screen and after it says that the windows fail to boot and ask me to push up volume to do hard reset or any other if i want to cancel when i cancel i stuck in the today scren back round

I also try to make a call to my divice and rings but i can answer either
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce Inman:
If you can get the phone to sync with AS you may be able to pull the files you need before you have to hard reset.

You can also try to install something like Pocket Controller or My Mobiler to access the files.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bombjer:
I cannot sync it i try

The pc does not recognize any connection when i plug the usb cable