yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Hey this rom sounds great. Gonna flash it, but I'm wondering - can someone give me their opinion on which is better? This or King's legend? Obviously it's personal opinion, and each has its pros and cons, etc...but do you all think this is good/ready for daily use?

Also - any tips on flashing on a mt3g? same swap, ext etc?
[G1 Android Development] will4958:
Ok, something odd happened to the wireless tether app on my G1 after flashing the power off patch. For some reason, I couldn't establish a connection with either my desktop or latop computers after flashing the thing. I tried several times and kept getting nothing. The app starts as normal, but neither computer shows any sign of a connection. I even tried uninstalling then reinstalling the app, even though my backup was the same as the included version in the rom. Nothing. There's a chance it be due to something other than the power off patch, but I've restored a previous backup and all the updated apps I had installed after flashing the patch and the wireless tether is working like it did before. If anyone else has run into this problem please post so I know I'm not alone. I'll try flashing the patch again and see if it does the same thing. If it does I can live without the patch. I don't turn my phone off that often, anyway.
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
This rom is dope. Just wanted to jump back in and say thank you. Sense with live wallpaper is the ultimate! Not all of them work, but I got the waterpaper one going over one of my photos, and it's pretty f-ing awesome. Will definitely be anxiously awaiting an update to make it even smoother. With lwp going it's a tad laggy, but it's to be expected. Can't wait for the next release!

I don't understand why this thread hasn't blown up big time...this IS the first rom to have sense AND lwp isn't it?? What am I missing? I've got both starfield and waterpaper running, a little laggy yes, but it's WORKING!
[G1 Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
Thats Waaay to many steps. And most of them are unnecessary. honestly take out the sim card to wipe? :o

Fastest sense rom ever wow.. honestly just fix the graphical issues and this is good for me.. amazing

Will be using this for a few days. Will try and find the source of bugs if i find some. No fc's so far. Noticed alot of optimization and edits to Rosie must be why its so fast lol.
[G1 Android Development] turtleman13:
Delsa

Are you goin to work with soullife to get the ota update working on this ROM for the next update since enemone is working on the graphics issue

The next update should be wicked
[G1 Android Development] will4958:
Ok, as some of you may have from one of my last posts, I"d been having a little trouble with the wifi tether on my G1 after updating a few apps while using this rom. I thought it was the app updates, but it turns out it's the ram hack, or to be more precise the ability to switch from full 3d to performance like on King's Legend rom. The switch works, but for some wierd reason it interferes with the wifi tether. It activates but does not create a connection with the computer. I tried it on both my desktop and laptop, each running Windows XP Pro with Service Pack 2. I also did several restores, updating the same apps with and without enabling the ram hack. The wired tether app still works perfectly, I just prefer the wifi tether because it seems a little faster to me. To anyone who uses their G1 for the wifi tether, don't enable the 10MB Ramhack. Even disabling won't fix the wifi tether problem, you'd have to restore an earlier backup. Sorry in advance if this seems a little long winded, just thought the public should know.
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
FYI for peeps thinking about flashing this - I have gotten almost every live wallpaper to run successfully. Starfield, andwobble, duck hunt, the 'substrate' series, seismo, seeds of life, pong, nexus etc...the only ones I've found unusable are 'live waterpaper' (contrary to my earlier post, it's no good. You can set it as lwp, but it won't sustain, will revert back to stock wp), earth (or whatever it's called with the spinning planet), google maps (this might be related to the fact that 'my location' doesn't seem to be working in this rom - i.e. I can't get my 'current' weather, doesn't locate me).

For being beta, the lwps are working very well. I've been switching the lwps up a lot. Been unplugged for 8 hours, running lwp the whole time, and constantly playing with my phone (though not a lot of browsing/calling/texting) and my battery is at 36%. Not great, but not as bad as it could be. With 'normal usage' I could make it from morning to night. Plus I think I will settle down now after the initial excitement of lwp + sense, and just fall back and use the startfield lwp, as it's not only my fave (it's a Star Wars thing), but it seems to take the least amount of battery/cpu drainage to function. It also seems to run with the least amount of lag/choppiness of the ones I've been playing with.

Thanks again to Delsa, this IS the ideal rom (or will be when the kinks get worked out!).
[G1 Android Development] engagedtosmile:
How did you get the Nexus one to work? I set it and it goes away once the phone locks.
[G1 Android Development] jasonmlit:
ok, this is by far, imo, the best sense rom i have used. its stable, its fast and responsive etc. etc. I don't know what you did delsa, but this is money. My only question is my available memory... it hovers around 28, and am wondering if apps2sd is working, or if this is normal... i am not complaining i am just wondering if i start to install a bunch of apps if this is going to get eatne up.
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
ok so i gotta put my 2 sence in here....outta kings,vegas,and delsa's Rom This by faaaarrrr takes the cake..smooth and quick i got all my widgets up and da screens are still swiping like nothing is on them.the gallery apk is amazingly quick and the phone actually comes up when i hit da phone button...when i pull up the lil add more widgets menu ders are some rectangles for some reason dont kno if its jus my fone..and the slider that shows u was page ur on on the home screen isint ther either..other than that this is diff. the best one Great Work.
[G1 Android Development] turtleman13:
A2SD works on this ROM the reason for the low memory is because the cache and things like Rosie and core system apps stay there for improved system performance
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
As was mentioned earlier in the thread, to get a lwp to 'stick' - set it, then reboot your phone before the screen locks. Let it completely boot/sync up before playing with it. Once it's fully rebooted, go in and the lwp should be set. This was the method provided by someone else, and it worked for me. But I don't think the nexus lwp imparticular has special instructions. It's just some lwps work and some don't...for me, the nexus worked, but it was pretty choppy. Oh, and once you do this 'set the lwp then reboot' process, you should be good to go, i.e. you don't have to repeat the process every time you pick a new lwp.
[G1 Android Development] engagedtosmile:
that seems to break my 3D.

The LWPs run choppy after I apply the power off patch, before that it works just fine. After applying the patch, full screen weather animations are blocky and broken. Gallery is also messed up. For shame since that is what is needed to set LWPs.
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
So the exclusion of the power off patch would result in smoother lwp and functioning weather animations? I noticed the weather animations were screwed up too...but it's only partial - for example, the 'rain' effect works over my full-screen weather widget, but the weather animation over the standard flip clock widget was blocky and broken. Though my lwps are working...but they could definitely be smoother. Also noticed that the gallery wasn't working right too.

I'm tempted now to remove the power-off patch. Annoying to have to pull the battery to turn it off, but I only power down once every few days anyway (when I'm sticking with a rom, and not switching things up), so it's a minor annoyance. Worth it if it makes all the 3d effects/lwp work imo.

Can I just remove the patch do you think? Or would I have to re-flash the rom without adding the patch to put the changes in effect?

One other minor point - I can't change the lockscreen wallpaper. I read that this is standard on legend roms, but it actually is probably the #1 biggest problem for me with this rom. I find it annoying to have to look at the same stock image for the lock screen...I don't want a lwp for the lock, but at least an image/pic of my choosing. Anyone know if there's a way around this?

Other than that, VERY impressed with this rom, and using it as my daily for now.

EDIT: Just realized that you meant without the power off patch, you can't boot down the phone to set the lwp. Would this not also work with a battery pull? If not, damn that does suck!
[G1 Android Development] Clyborg:
Google voice

Does google voice work properly with this rom?

Only one version of google voice worked with King's roms, and that was .2.

Thanks,

Jason
[G1 Android Development] turtleman13:
sorry guys i forgot to inform everyone that the power patch also flashes the kernal to a performance kernel by firerat

to get your 3d back all you have to do is run full3dkernel from the terminal or adb

PS. i have been able to change my lockscreen with no issues

what happens when you attempt to change it

Does anyone know how to get the transparent lockscreen back

that was WICKED

and it would be WICKED-er with the LWP
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Thanks for the tip. I'll flash the 3d kernel from terminal to sort things out.

Re: the lock screen, are you running this delsa rom? Or another legend rom? I mistyped earlier, I actually was able to change the lockscreen on King's legend rom, but can't on this one by delsa. I remember in King's when you clicked menu > wallpaper, it gave you an option to set the wallpaper for the homescreen or the lock screen. This delsa rom doesn't give you that option, it automatically goes to set the homescreen wallpaper.

If I'm missing something, PLEASE point it out! Changing the lock screen would make an AWESOME rom even AWESOMER ;)
[G1 Android Development] turtleman13:
go to settings --> personalize ---> set lockscreen wallpaper
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Lol, thanks. Don't know how I missed that, guess I was just assuming it'd be the same process as King's rom. Talk about 'duh' - the personalize setting, you couldn't put it in a more obvious place...once a noob always a noob :o

Cheers dude.
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
i tryed to push a transparent lockscreen threw adb it doesint work =[......soooo for an update maybe u should add a transarent lockscreen along with an option to d.l the rom with a ram hack even though its fast enough more speed never hurt lol.
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
if u go to the recovery and select add apps and delv- to sd it should clear up the mem loss i did it and went from havint 9.27 mb avail. to have 59 mb avail. hope dat helped....amon ra's recovery is the best
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Puzzle Blox lwp

Just putting this out to others playing with their lwp. I think due to some market problems that some 2.1 users are having (some apps are not showing up in market) I can't find the puzzle blox lwp ANYWHERE. Looked all over online, but can't find it. I love the game and would love to have the lwp version, so if anyone knows where to get it OTHER than the market, or has a link or an apk to share, it'd be much appreciated!
[G1 Android Development] engagedtosmile:
that would explain it

agreed with the transparent lockscreen.
[G1 Android Development] DelsaDj:
I want to make a trasparent lockscreen or use the default 2.1 lockscreen....

I'm waiting for a fix of rosie for make un update, I don't want to make infinite mini update :P but make a very improvement every update...

so...

wait....and hope ;)

big thanks to everyone....for the comments...
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Big thanks to you Delsa. Will be watching for that update ;)
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
ur best bet is flashin another rom and den opening the market ull find the app save it to ur sdcard and den flash dela's rom its wat i did to get the AIM apk,cuz it wasint comming up either
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
looking foward to the update hope its as good as this one
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Thanks for the tip, I thought the same thing...but - and this is totally noob of me - how do I save the lwp to my sd card after installing from the market? I can't find it in astro or android mate file explorer...??

EDIT - I can find other apps I've downloaded, just not the lwp...are they saved in a different place maybe? Different file tag?

EDIT#2 - Ok, nevermind...realized I can just do it through recovery in 'other' with 'move apps+dalvik to SD' - that oughta do it :)
[G1 Android Development] jasonmlit:
I am going on a week of having this rom, and still perfect. I don't even mind the graphical stuff because it runs sooooo smooth. I am on t-mobile and just got the OTA update for legend.... should I install it? I have seen some posts about it, but not sure what I should do with it. I downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
[G1 Android Development] DelsaDj:
don't install it...don't work for our G1.... and you can't install :)

in the next update...you can find one new app :D

mytouchmusicplayer :D hope you like it D:
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
edit 2 is absolutly right.
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
Thax For the tip delsa cause i was wondering the same thing.
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Ok...I'm stumped again. I did the 'save apps+dalv to SD' process through recovery, am plugged in now via usb, and I can't find my apps on the sd card...what am I doing wrong?

BTW, any ETA for the update Delsa? Not rushing you of course lol, just anxious as this rom is so good :)
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
ur apps get saved to the ext portion or ur sdcard not the root so u wont b able to see them but when u turn ur fone on no matter wat rom u flash they will b there.....unless u do a re-partition of course. then everyting get deleted.
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
delsa any reason y i cant flash a clear lockscreen on this rom...ive tried two diff ones and got nothing.
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Ah, I see...fat32 vs. ext kind of thing, ok. Thanks for clarifying lol. Well I'll re-flash Delsa's rom without repartitioning and hopefully it'll work ok and the lwp will be there.

tbh, I'm torn now because the other rom I flashed to to download the lwp is actually really sick. It's the fastest sense I've tried hands down...but it doesn't have live wallpaper (but I could dl it from the market since it was 2.1) so I think I'm coming back to delsa soon :D
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
wat rom was it? and was a legend? cuz i dont use the live wallpapers to often....glad i could help.btw wat does lwp stand for?
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
lwp = live wallpaper :)

the rom is here zachattack's here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=670414

He has both 1.5 and 2.1, I'm running the 2.1. REALLY fast.
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
I knew dat lol...hero Rom are old to me now lol..legend is the way to Go woot woot.

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[G1 Android Development] DelsaDj:
I don't know... one dev enjoy our "team" and he work very hard for make this run smoother :D when is ready the update go out.... :D

hope one week ;)
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Oh lol, yeah you said legend. Sorry. It might not be the flashiest, but it's the fastest :) Anyway, I'm gonna flash back to Delsa later tonight I think. I miss the lwp lol.
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Thanks for the update! We're all waiting patiently :D
[G1 Android Development] will4958:
I'm not sure if anyone has noticed yet, but cyanogen's finally posted a fully functional Eclair rom with working video camera. Hopefully, this means that some Sense Eclair roms will soon be coming on to to the scene, including this one. I did try cyan's newest last night for a little bit, but I found myself missing the look of the Sense roms. Maybe I'm just spoiled by them now, but to me they look better.
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
+1, I totally agree (re: sense). Tempted to try cyanogen, but I really find it hard to go back to a stock-looking rom...I've gotten hooked on sense :P Stock android looks old-school and unrefined in comparison (imo).
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Anyone know of a 'power-off' patch that doesn't automatically also flash the performance kernel along with it? I'm going to switch back to this/delsa's rom later after work, and I'm wondering if I can get the power-off fix without worrying about the kernel, because last time I tried it a few days ago, I wasn't able to switch back to the 3d kernel via terminal.

I did:

su

full3dkernel

It said 'not permitted' - so, if I could get the power off without messing with the kernels, that'd be ideal. Or alternatively, if I was going about restoring 3d the wrong way, pls. point me in the right direction :D Thx!

btw, I did search for a different power-off patch, but the only one I could find is the King1.1.1 that was posted earlier in the thread...that might mean it's the only one, or it might mean I missed an alternative, so I'm asking.
[G1 Android Development] turtleman13:
if anything use adb instead of the terminal and you should be fine
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
K thanks for the tip. I've been getting by on just using terminal so far, as I thought they were two roads leading to the same destination, so to speak...guess I'll have to give myself a crash course on adb, I should probably know about it anyway.
[G1 Android Development] DelsaDj:
there isn't the performance kernel of kingclick... :) there is the vega kernel :D for 3d...
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
You mean built into your rom? Right, it's got the 3d kernel...we were talking about the power off patch, which has the performance kernel in it. So when you flash the power off patch, you automatically also get the performance kernel, which messes with the 3d/lwp.

Delsa are you using the power off patch? Did you switch back to 'full3dkernel' through adb/terminal? Or did you skip the power off patch and are just powering down through terminal/battery pull?
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Hmm, I'm trying to re-flash delsa's rom now, but it's not loading...stuck on the htc screen. The rom I went to to download the live wallpaper had a different swap than this one recommends to use...I wonder if that's why it's not booting up? Because I obviously didn't repartition before flashing delsa so I could keep the live wallpaper...

So I guess I have to switch to a 2.1 rom with the exact same swap as this recommends to be able to come back without repartitioning?
[G1 Android Development] darkphoenix2012:
Loved this rom, used it for several days. Being in a beta stage I myself only found a few things preventing it from being a daily use rom. It needs some improvement in a few areas but I was very impressed. Especially with the LWP running on a sense ui rom on the g1. I hope to see updates to this rom as I am planning on using it all the time after it is "done".

The biggest issue I had was the lack of hardware lights and the QWERTY lights not having support. The app works fine to fix the problem but it seems very laggy with the app for this purpose.

Keep up the amazing work, I can't wait for this rom to be done.
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Well, I've spent a few hours on this lol...and still haven't got it sorted out. What I wound up doing: flashed delsa, made a nandroid backup of it, flashed another 2.1 rom, downloaded the puzzle blox live wallpaper i wanted, moved apps+dalvik to sd via recovery, and restored this delsa rom successfully.

I thought that by restoring delsa's rom, having not re-partitioned my sd card after saving the lwp, it would still be there? Anyone care to enlighten me? :D
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
the way i did it was using superd but i didnt download a lwp so idk i did it with 160 swap and ext 4...but the nandroid idea sounds pritty good let me kno how dat works for u.

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[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Sorry, I already tried it, and it didn't work. So I'm back with delsa, but without the lwp I went through all that to try to get...hopefully someone will figure out a way to make that ota update for legend flashable, cuz that is supposed to fix the market glitch. I can't seem to figure out how to move the lwp from one rom to the other, and I feel silly spending so many hours over a wallpaper :P
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
great ROM, a few little things I found that were kind of annoying, the big one being when Im on the homescreen and clikc MENU and try and change the SCENES, i get some serious FCs, I wanted to turn off the SenseUI all together and try the ROM that way, but I couldnt get to the SCENES settings.
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
Oh yeah the other thing, today actually this afterboon, I connected to my WiFi networkm sure enough I got a System Update from HTC. Obviously the update is for the HTC Legend, but I downloaded it anyways, to see what would happend. Ended up not working, it wasnt a surprise. Just a heads up some of you might get a update notifications.
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Well, android karma got me. When I was first on this rom, the lwp were working so well that I went way outta my way to try to get one I wanted but couldn't get through the market. That, in the end, didn't work out, but I'm nonetheless back on delsa...and now I can't get ANY of the lwp to work!!! Reflashed the rom 3 times, and it boots up and runs, but now all of a sudden every time I try to run a lwp the phone just completely locks up. Frustrating!

Will be watching for an update Delsa! In the meantime, I think I'll have to go with another hero rom, sans live wallpaper...will come back after the update. Thanks again for your work!
[G1 Android Development] turtleman13:
Use ASTRO to back up any apps or LWP to your sdcard but you will have to usae ASTRO to restore/install them back
[G1 Android Development] sunsean:
Thanks for the tip, but I did try using Astro...couldn't find the lwp. I found other apps I had installed, but not the lwp. Will give it another shot though, maybe I just gave up to early and didn't go about it the right way.
[G1 Android Development] Abhi_UK:
Swap Size

I have a 8gb Class 6 sd and was wondering if we make a partition bigger than 256 mb will this or any rom use it and will it make it faster.

Also are there any eta for the next update because it is a great rom.:)

I have a few suggestions such as the white bar/line ontop to show wat page of the sense you're on and when adding widgets the text. Also not restarting after widgets.

Also if anyone wants to know about heroled it works on all the roms I have tried but stops after a certain percentage battery even if opened up. If you try at 5% and then wait until 100% press the cancel call button and then slide down the thing and unlock and they work.:)

Thanks
[G1 Android Development] Abhi_UK:
Any answers?

Is this rom getting updated by anyone, fixes.
[G1 Android Development] jasonmlit:
+1, just wondering. I have been running it flawlessly. Best Sense rom by far for me. Is this still being worked on? i don't want to switch to another rom.
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
The person could have be busy with work,school,etc....if you wanna try another go for the sense that has the OC 672 in title.
[G1 Android Development] meezy009:
Ok so i had ran this rom for a while did a lil switch over to the My touch slide Rom Works good so far but da gallery sux.....is there any way i can flash ur performance kernel i kno u said do something threw adb any hints on the cammands needed...thanx