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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DTBrum:
OK, my first post so be gentle.

I have MDA Vario that has been flashed with TPCElite series V11 MEGA wm6.5 23017. It also has the touchflo GUI running. Now having tried it for a week (only just purchased it a week ago) I can say that I'm not a fan of the touchflo prog. It seems to hang on occasions and I often end up selecting something I didn't want only to find the phone connecting to the net. So I have switched it off. There is a windows default one that is working fine, but I can't see a way to customise the menu so I can add what I want to it.

So my dilemma. Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards - this way I can uninstall it if I don't like it. Or should I just leave it deselected and install a new one? Will this have any performance/memory issues - ie is the lite rom a better way to go.

I had a Mio PDA with iLauncher on it and I liked the ability to add my own shortcuts etc.

If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI? Been looking at Manila 2D v2 but I want to be able to customise the main menu and I don't want it sluggish.

One final thing. Is it possible to get the phone to ask permission before connecting via gprs rather than scurrying around for the disconnect. I've looked through the menus but can't find anything. Don't mind using it if I want it, just fed up of it dialing it by mistake -(I have sausage fingers.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] agentg1001:
i recommend the t.i.r element v5 rom. ive been thru many roms including the tpc series that you have tried and i find that t.i.r element v5 is the best w/ smooth graphics, great gui (full landscape support etc.) i cant post a link as of now since i am new to posting on xda so please look it up and give it a shot! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Is there a CLI version of a rom for this phone or is someone just trying too sound fancy? Since when is touchflu a GUI? I am totally confused.

Uh my head is hurting make it stop.. SOMEONE REPLIED TO THIS?? awmg

I am so confused, it's like trying to mess with a womans bra (Full Landscape support) for the first time, what do I do.. do I call her new hair doo a pair of panties? AAAHHHHHHHH

Stylez close this **** down.. REASON.... Doesn't make any sense at all..

I used the GUI version of this forum to reply.. Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] papo:
hi DTBrum,

touchflo - i never liked it too, don't know which files are responsible for its running and if it could be removed, seems like it's part of needed htc drivers to me, but this will switch it off completely:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]

"EnableScroll"=dword:00000000

"EnableCube"=dword:00000000

you need a registry editor to change those values.

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you can't replace gui, or you can theoretically but what you mean is sort of launcher, or today manager. I tried more and didn't like any, they all seems to be laggy to me.

windows in default uses today screen and start menu, it's the same way as in pc edition, there are folders with shortcuts in them for start menu

look in \windows\start menu folder. and on today screen, you can set what you want to see there in settings/today

I use start replacement called quickmenu which is a very small prg with lots of tweaks.

if you don't like those fancy launchers and controls, better you make your own rom. it's very easy with tools from xda. nearly all custom roms lite or full you'll find here have some kind of launchers and today replacement already in them and it's hard to remove or disable them.

there is a lot of different apps like iLauncher, you can install/uninstall.

no one will recommend you any custom rom here, you need to go through trying one after another because everybody's preferences differs. look in wiki.

automatic connect. no, there is no way to disable this. you can use app called 'nodata' but then you'll have to run it to enable/disable every time you want to use internet. But it solves problems in roaming.

Some programs can be set to not auto dial. and another option is, you can set a fake internet connection, make it default and then when you want to go online you'll dial the real one manually. But you may find that some programs would not want to use other then default connection.

and don't get discouraged here on forum, some people are smart here, true, but not all of us here get born that way.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DTBrum:
Thankx for the replies.

What I found with touchflo was that there are occasions where I try to scroll from left to right and nothing happens, then all of a sudden I find it has selected something like maps or internet and the phone is trying to connect to the net. Then it starts responding normally. So as a front end user interface for me I'm not that keen on it. Also I can't see a way to remove the categories sucj as maps, and add my own. I have a registry editor and will try changing the values suggested and see if that helps. I'll do a search for the other bits recommended.

Apologies ChumleyEX, not sure if I used the correct terminology. For me a program such as touchflo is an alternative GUI that sits on top of the windows GUI. Just want to know if there are better, more reliable ones. Doesn't have to be fancy. I want to be able to customise it and for it to be quick and responsive.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Sorry I'm sure I was too harsh, I was feeling a little too good last night.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DTBrum:
No problem ChumleyEX - no harm done.

Papo - thanks for you time and help, you cleared a few things up for me. Registry edited and touchflo now disabled.

As I said I've only had this device a week and only just found this site recently, so I'm not really up on the terminology so I'm hoping you can look past my shortcomings please. I'll get there. I'm no novice with pc's or pda's but I'm not in the same league as most people on here I admit.

My question about installing an alternative to touchflo was because some of these other programs such as ilauncher like to be installed to the device memory rather than storage card. I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that. I have no option to remove touchflo.

I was hoping that by describing what I was after people would recommend something that fits the bill. But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of. There is some really nice work here on this site - so tempted to give it a go. I guess we all like different things so it's a matter of personal choice really. Key for me is functionality/responsiveness. It's no good if the interface gets in the way no matter how good it looks.

Off to read some reviews of roms on here now. I'll check out t.i.r element v5 as suggested by agent1001 first.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ASCIIker:
dude, stop fretting and just try out as many ROMs as you can...and remember to search and read a LOT! it will help in the long run to build your concepts.

i have TWO more suggestions/clarifications for you:

1. you might have big fingers, but what i suspect is that you are using your device as if it has a capacitive screen...which it doesn't. the kaiser (like many htc phones) has a resistive screen. essentially, what this means is that the screen will respond best with a good amount of pressure, applied at a point. so the best suggestion i can give you that will tremendously improve your experience with the device is...use your finger NAILS! the effect is as if you are using a stylus and once you get used to it, any "GUI" will become usable.

2. what you call a "GUI" is not a GUI, technically. this is what chumleyex was alluding to. these "GUIs" run as today screen plugins. they are just that...they are "today screen plugins"...also called "home screen" in other contexts of discussion. you can have many such plugins installed on your device. you can even have many such plugins running at once on your today screen. however, some take over the today screen completely, so you can only use them exclusively. manila2d/manila3d, spb mobile shell, and quite a few others are such kinds of today screen plugins. installing multiple such plugins only takes up storage space. RUNNING multiple such plugins is like running many applications at once...which will consume memory and may slow down the phone, etc, etc.

as always, you should have read the forum rules...which clearly state that "best of" threads or "suggest me a <insert requirement here>" style threads are against the forum rules. which leads me to believe that you probably haven't read the other "stickies" and "wikis" either. start there and then you'll find yourself asking a lot less basic questions that clutter up the forum. don't be surprised if this thread is closed soon by a forum mod. cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DTBrum:
Thanks ASCIIker - screen is more responsive with more pressure. Guess I was worried about cracking it.

I did do loads of reading before posting - mainly to do with how to, hard spl, soft spl, roms, radio threads. Sorry if I missed the bit about asking for recommendations.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] papo:
I get the feeling that you think those fancy things in full custom ROMs are taking up space. they are not. and not using them, disabling them, or deleting shortcuts from start menu would do the same as uninstalling.

you've got:

flash memory - (ROM)

int. memory - think about it as HDD: depends, typicaly little over 100MB

RAM, operating memory, like on PC another 100MB: to be used by progs.

those names differs, to add confusion, some refers to int.memory as ROM

MS bloatware & fancy stuff from custom ROMs which you don't want could still rest in peace in ROM and not bothering you. you'll still have your 100MB int.mem. And as long as they are not actively running you still will have 100 RAM and no processor power used. but exactly like mentioned every plugin on today screen means it's running too. get an fdc task manager or alternative to see all processes and other stuff running. (not just tasks) You can find a way to disable nearly everything.

I don't think there is any. even with ultra lite, i could be mistaken with this, but i tried hard and it looks like it's part of required htc drivers. so you only could disable it...at least! i hated it too no matter about fingers. it seems better on htc pro2 anyway.

yep, the look would be the main difference i'll say.

but if you want functionality/responsiveness, than you probably better stick with using start button and today screen without unnecessary additions.

* installing on SD card means it will go much slower and (at least on my kaiser) will sometime create errors on card from crashed apps and when I dropped phone or it died w/o shutdown or when contacts on SD card get loosed. many times I even lost complete SD contents.

You have 100MB of int.mem!! it would love to be used by progs.

I suggest you to try all of available and up-to-date custom ROMs then after getting an idea of what is doing what, just mix your own rom. it's a matter of check-in what you want inside basically. and you can add your own stuff too. like programs you buy or are not in any ROM. I have over 110MB of programs fitted in ROM and still 100MB int.mem. and speed of the device and ram is not affected too, because i let only 3 - 4 apps from that running in background.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DTBrum:
Well I've tried flashing it and had to visit the toilet as things didn't go well.

I flashed with a lite rom, plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install a nice front end/today screen/touchflo etc to the device when I settled on one I liked.

Rom flashed fine - quite like it.

Radio didn't go well. Got stuck at the dreaded tri coloured screen.

Mtty.exe didn't recover it either.

Visited toilet.

Flashed back to standard rom from manufacturer. All now back up and running.

Have changed underpants.

At least I was able to use the info on here to get it back up and running OK.

Problem was a write error flashing the suggested radio - at 99% got an error 226.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] papo:
check my previous post.

try flashing from SD card, a lot of troubles with cable/pc/connector

format small (256MB) SD card with FAT32,

rename ruu_signed.nbh file to KAISIMG.NBH place on root of SD

hold camera button and start or reset pda
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DTBrum:
I think to be honest I'm a little paranoid about keeping the device memory free. The reason is my wife has an O2 Orbit which was running wm5. It has been updated to WM6 and she has very little free storage memory at all on the device to the point where we have struggled getting some programs installed. I know most give you the option to install to storage card or device, but some don't. Also the ones that do install on the storage card often put some files onto the device, such as help or configuration files.

I know this HTC has a lot more memory so it probably isn't an issue in reality.

I'm up to speed about the different types of memory and whether an app is consuming processing power or just storage space depending upon if it running or not. I just didn't have a chance to read your reply before I posted- wife wanted the PC back. And I was relieved just to have the phone back working.

Papo - thanks for you help. Really appreciate it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
I had my tilt for 2 years and never worried about memory.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DTBrum:
OK, flashed the phone a couple of times yesterday and I've now found a rom I like a lot. Even the GUI - touchflo - works like a dream and with the programs that came with the rom I can even customise it how I like. It's smooth, quick and I am yet to discover a bug.

I'll give it a run for a couple of weeks and if I decide to keep this then I'll donate.

Interestingly I flashed back to stock rom from T Mobile through links I found on here. Worked without a problem, provided a 6ft+ 16stone bloke is happy with everything in pink. So I then flashed back to the standard HTC rom wm6.1 and had lots of problems. Basic things like selecting tick boxes didn't even work well.

I understand that everyone wants different things from their phones, how they look etc and that is why it is impossible to say which rom is best. But through this site, I have a customised phone that runs so smooth and quickly and looks damn smart. So at the moment I am well chuffed.

The only really difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them and the backup I took was incomplete as I only backed up the sim and not the phone. D'oh. Anyway I've now sorted this out as I found all the old contacts in outlook deleted items. I restored them back to the contacts folder and synced them again and it's all now back up and running.

Off to have a play :D

If she lets me I may even flash the wifes O2 Orbit XDA. It's been upgraded from wm5 to wm6 and the new rom leaves very little free memory on the device itself and we do struggle at times getting some software onto it. The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device. I have manually moved it back to the SD card and made new shortcuts etc, but I feel a new rom from this site would be the way to go.

Thank you to all who helped me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] papo:
activeSync & outlook played tricks on me too, deleting or doubling all contacts... :( even easier than backing up by backup program, is to copy 'RAW' database in pda before re-flashing. it's all in one file called PIM.VOL in root of phone. calendar is there as well. you can copy this to SD and upon reflashing copy back to root of pda and see what PC's outlook will have to say to it. or just keep on SD as 2nd backup.

note, the file may be locked by running programs (contacts, messages, home plugin) kill them from taskman in that case.

tomtom app is two files tomtom nav.exe and data.chk, put them anywhere you like and the rest, config files, will be created by it.

but it runs really slow from SD. and taking 13MB, so again, it's best to have them in ROM.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] donottouch:
Hi!

I actually engaged to work on a hungarian language translation for wm 6.5 verzion : CE OS 5.2.23420 (Build 23420.5.4.0) hopely just a few days and i able to post something valuable stuff for testing.

if somebody have time and interesting any help welcome.

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Hello!

Elkezdtem dolgozni egy magyar forditason wm 6.5 hoz verzioszam: CE OS 5.2.23420 (Build 23420.5.4.0) remelhetoleg par nap es tudok valamit feltolteni ami erdemes tesztre.

Ha valakit erdekel es szeretne segiteni minden segiteg jol jon.

LETOLTESEK : Rendszer a #2 es OEM a #3 hozzaszolasban

kesobbiekben megprobalom pontosan dokumentalni melyik allomany honnan jott es melyik verziohoz tartozik.

In the future i stop writing english here, sence no point to do. This project is for people, read/speak hungarian. If you not read at least cannot do too much with it. Sorry no offence. Because i cannot find hungarian mui pack for 6.5 at all started this project.

My work does not containing any cracks or hacks or illegal staff, if any of the mods find something please let me know i will remove it...

A munkam nem tartalmaz toreseket vagy egyeb illegalis modositast,ha valamelyik moderator talal valamit tudassa el fogom tavolitani...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] donottouch:
Windows Mobile 6.5 magyaritot rendszer allomanyok letoltese

Ide csak a rendszer allomanyok fognak kerulni

! AZ ALLOMANYOK HASZNALATABOL EREDO KAROKERT NEM VAGYOK FELELOS !

MINDENKI SAJAT FELELOSSEGERE TELEPITSE OKET

csak masold be tcmd vel a windows konyvtarba es inditsd ujra a telot...

bizti vannak hibak pl ekezetek angol os-t hasznalok angol a billentyum is es lusta vagyok veluk bajlodni most....

tudom nem sok de szeretnem ha megneznetek es elbiralnatok
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] donottouch:
Reserved for development

Ide csak az OEM allomanyok fognak kerulni

! AZ ALLOMANYOK HASZNALATABOL EREDO KAROKERT NEM VAGYOK FELELOS !

MINDENKI SAJAT FELELOSSEGERE TELEPITSE OKET

csak masold be tcmd vel a windows konyvtarba es inditsd ujra a telot...

bizti vannak hibak pl ekezetek angol os-t hasznalok angol a billentyum is es lusta vagyok veluk bajlodni most....
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Fodor Gábor:
Hello!A comm manager egész jól müködik.Csak így tovább!;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] 22100:
Bár angolul használtam mindig, várom a magyar verziót!!! Sokat segíteni nem tudok, de tesztelni mindenképpen fogom! Köszönöm!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] donottouch:
Koszi biztatas mindig jol jon... :D akadtak gondjaim a chome forditasaval mindent mashova pakol a nyavajas...

amugy en is angolul hasznalom csak az x1 em anyukahoz vandorol a kozeljovoben es o nem tud angolul...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] 22100:
A Nőkért mindent! Fordítod, vagy csinálsz egy saját romot is?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] csaby9:
Sajnos angolul nem tudok ezért a fordításban nem tudok segíteni viszont nagyon szivesen tesztelem.

Energy.XPERIA.23563.Sense2.5.MaxManila romot használok a főképernyő, a comm manager és az advanced network fordítása jól működik.

Az ékezet hibákon kivül nem találtam hibát.

Csak így tovább várom a többi tesztelni valót.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] stoki25:
Köszönjük a nép nevében:)Várjuk a dolgokat és teszteljük!;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] donottouch:
gondolkozok rajta de nehez csak azt elnezve hogy a tobbiek akik "fozocskeznek" mindig valakinek valami nem tetszik valoszinu azert egy referencia rom ot osszerantok... :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] 22100:
Persze, elégedetlenek mindig lesznek, mert azt a legkönnyebb, de néhányan már biztosan vagyunk akik elégedetten próbálnánk ki a referenciát! :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] donottouch:
ugy latom mindenkepp muszaly lesz egy par allomany a rom ban nem lecserelheto kulsoleg....
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Shady313:
Üdv!

Grat a projecthez! Ezt én is eljátszottam Artemisre, fél éves fordítás és ezt kaptam: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=546805

A konyhámat megtalálod a linken, így a 'mui' fájlokat is felhasználhatod szabadon, én is tervezem, hogy elkészítem a fordítást Xperiára, de sajnos nincs rá időm. A SYS fájlokat biztosan feltudod használni, a rendszer 100%osan magyar és stabil :)

Tipp: az elkészült mui fájlokból készíts .cab telepítőfájlt.

Tipp2: próbálkozz a teljes rendszer fordításával (szóval rendesen hivatkozz a 040E-s language kódra) és készíts 40E-s muikat mint én tettem az Artemis esetében. Mindezt egy konyhában tudod jól összehozni, ott látod, hogy mely fájlok és registry bejegyzések a változók.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jerpelea:
please use english on this forum

is there an moderator to clean this mess?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Shady313:
Sorry about this, please just read the first post, we only want to make a rom in our language (hungarian) but we dont have too much supporters who speaks english well and the hungarian forums are weak. This is a famous site in our country, so it would be good, if we can talk in hungarian in this topic.

Sorry for my english.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] donottouch:
I dont really like repeating myself . Please let me explain it to all again

There is no point to use english (no offence but you can use a hungarian translation just like i can use a chinese or spanish?)

this project is for hungarian speak people. i dont just go and writing hungarian everywhere around in the forum only here... so there is no "mess"....

there is very little or no hungarian support for WM6.5 traslation around, more fewer who fluent english (they not need to be translated) and more fewer even who willing to start a project like that and take it to public even if is containing errors. so please lets not speak further about mess.

if OP's dont like it they free to take it off ofcrse

sorry
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] donottouch:
Probaltam a problema az hogy az arte nem wvga megcsak nem is vga es wm 6.1 nem wm 6.5.4 a 6.1 es sys csomaggal egyaltalan nem muxik probaltam a legkozelebb a diamond van ahoz van teljes csomagom de instabil az x1 en meg akkor is ha az eredeti se rom ot hasznalom.

egyelore arra szeretnek koncentralni hogy rendes es sabil legyen azutan a lehet regeditelni es atnevezgetni :D a ROM okat mar regota sajat magamnak szerelem ossze kezdve az elso instabil beta 6.5 tol meg diamondon es Touch Pro-n

bocsa most nztem meg a 6.5 ot csinaltad meg te is megnezem ha gondolod feltehetem tukornek a 4 shared accountomra.

es koszi a linket megnezem mit tudok vele kezdeni...a kepernyomeret elteres okozhat komoly gondokat.

atneztem mi kuldtel koszoom segiteni fig legalabb annyit hogy nem kell egesevel mindent atirnom csak atmasolni a valtozokat. meg ekezeteket...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Shady313:
A képernyőeltérés nem okoz problémát, ugyanis a mui fájlok felbntástól függetlenül működnek. Még a DPI_96os mappában lévő registry stringeket is feltudod használni, gyak. 1:1ben átportolható, csak sok idő ellenőrizni a 28005 és az újabb buildek közti különbségeket (mert ugye fejlesztenek/módosítanak így a változás helyenként rossz fordítást vagy hiányt jelenthet). Ezt ugye tovább bonyolítja h minden fájlt recmodolni, majd reversemodolni kell.

Ne feledd a registry értékeket!! Azok is fontosak, azok hivatkoznak a 040E-s fájlokra!

Sok sikert!

Tipp: ne foglalkozz semmilyen más fájllal csak amik a 040E-es mappákban vannak. Persze a fájlverziók eltérőek lehetnek, ha van rá időd nézd át az összes stringet.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Shady313:
A napokban elkeszitem a romomat magyar nyelvre igy erdemes lesz betekintgetni a topicomba. Termeszetesen ide is belinkelem, ha kesz lesz. A romomat egyelore csak az ide is feltoltott (Lite) valtozatban tervezem elkesziteni.