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[Desire Themes and Apps] hakydakillah:
I personally think, that the MX playeri is the best
[HD2 General] NickPDX:
I imported my used activesync with my google (gmail) account to sync up my contacts, calendar and email. The contacts all came through but were showing up as last name, first name. I wanted them to show up as first name, last name so I started looking around. I found the "app" contact changer mentioned on here and then grabbed it off XDA. It went through and said it changed my contacts. I found that they were all changed properly. After time though, not sure if it just when the phones dies or reboots, some of the contacts change back to last name, first again. It seems random which contacts are reverting, but all of the "facebook linked" contacts reverted plus some more random ones. I can go in and run contact changer again, or go in and manually change them but this seems to make the contact changer app useless if I have to run it all the time.

Any thoughts on what is causing this problem? From what I can tell the contacts in my Google contacts list are named properly, with the first name and last name in the proper field.

I am running T-mobile stock rom, and have not ever synced up with outlook on the PC (just using gmail via server on activesync).

Thanks for any help.

UPDATE: I just ran contact changer and then rebooted my phone (actually popped battery out) and the contacts did not revert. I then ran a sync via activesync and the contacts reverted. :-(
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
even though the way they are displayed is correct the system still manages them last-first, so if you create a new one after running the cab it will default to last first unless you specify differently in the drop down.this may be why they change when you sync fb.

it also helps (if you are using outlook on the pc) to have outlooks defaults changed to first-last.
[HD2 General] NickPDX:
Thanks for the tip. I am trying to avoid hooking up to the PC with outlook but I may end up having to. The contacts that are reverting are not new ones. Also it is not only the FB contacts that are reverting back, there are some other random ones that are doing it as well. Very strange. I am guessing it is just a normal WM quirk that I will have to find a workaround.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
if you do have access to outlook on a pc, i can HIGHLY recommend it as your main method of contact/calendar backup/restore.

I've been using it as my phone backup for years, and it cuts both ways, , , pc goes down? all your outlook contacts gone? no worries! theyre on your phone! Phone goes down? no worris, theyre on the pc!. hehe.

plus with outlook it saves every single field, so your facebook links and favourite poeple is saved, (yes i know that also happens on myphone and whatever, but how often are those services down? )
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
For my 3000 post, I figured I would do something special for those of us fresh into TMOUSA's crappy 2 year contract (and for those thinking about it).

We all drooled and drooled consistently until TMOUSA came out with the HD2. There is a catch though, it is through TMOUSA. Many people have reported crappy service (cell-wise) and flat spots for data coverage (3G areas turning into Edge, turning into GPRS, into no-data). On top of that paying $450 for a device is not exactly appealing either ($199 sounds like a much better deal after all). I have been thinking about it long and hard and I came up with the perfect mathematical solution for getting a cheaper HD2, sticking to TMOUSA cheaper plans (or leave TMOUSA altogether), and not paying for such crappy data plan/coverage. If you are like me, you are surrounded by an accessible Wifi signal about 70-80% of your waking day, so being forced to pay $30 per month is borderline stupid.

[highlight]Edit: My method is only for

brand new devices

. A lot of you are suggesting cheaper solutions by buying them off eBay or craiglist, which will come with the added risk of device malfunctions or scams. If you feel adventurous enough to go down these paths... by all means. It usually works out better in the end anyways. But this method ensures a brand new device, that you will get on the spot.[/highlight]

Without Further Ado, I give you the "Scr3w You Very Much, TMOUSA" Method...

I hope this is useful into deciding if you are getting a HD2 but don't want TMOUSA as your carrier or simply don't feel like paying a lot to them.
[HD2 General] joshkoss:
Good to know for us tmobile users my friend.. i'll stick it as requested.
[HD2 General] rickyoon.vegas:
But there are those of us who actually need more than the basic services.

My business requires me to have unlimited minutes, texts, and e-mail access at all times.

So, over all, T-Mobile is cheaper than At&T or Verizon.

But I do see your point.

$30 a month for 3G internet service does seem a bit too much, when I pay the same amount for 4G (Clear Wireless) at home.
[HD2 General] Funkyrocemz:
I would much rather opt out of TMOUS 2 year contract and jump ship to AT&T/Verizon/Sprint...

TMOUS has the absolute WORST service...
[HD2 General] alefsin:
I guess you forgot the %35 Bing cash back when you shop online and pay full price! $300 with no contract is the best deal :)
[HD2 General] gsvnet:
Depends on where you are...they work quite fine in many major areas.
[HD2 General] joefx13:
This does make sense. But then again it doesnt. Think about it!

Tmobile sells it on a 2 year contract for $199.

Walmart sells the samething (online) for $99 plus theres many coupons foe $25 off. So thats $75 on a new 2 year contract. Walmart also pays taxes.

Thats $75 vs. $450+ tax.

Now let me get to the point. If you want data+text+500 minutes. Its 59.99 on even more plus. Vs. $79.99 on contract.

So thats $20 more a month.

Heres the catch. If you cancel your contract after 6 months. The fee goes from $200 to $100 per line.

So lets add this up.

Buy the phone for $75. Add ($20 extra a month for 6 months= $120). And then add another $100 for the contract cancellation. Thats a total of $295.

So $295 vs. $450+ tax. Which sounds like a better deal?

After you cancel the contract. Just sign up for even more plus..
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
As an alternative (I did that personally), buy one get one free from T-Mobile promotion ... and pay $200 + tax for TWO HD2 phones. Activation waived.

So you pay $214 (in FL) for 2 phones.

Then you pay for 2 weeks of cheapest service (around $70) and cancellation fees of $400 for 2 phones

Total loss: $684

And you eBay your 2nd HD2 for $500 (around 450 after all fees)

You get your new shiny HD2 for $234 and you did not even extended your contract yet :)
[HD2 General] alooohaboy:
Don't Forget HTC has extended the turn in a old phone and get 50.00 on top of that with teh purchase of a HD2, G1, etc... I think till May 19th

recyclerebates.com/htcWebQuote.do;jsessionid=B386A281A1471313D8E724CBA74DD8B4
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
Thanks a lot josh!

Always a pleasure hearing from you, my friend!
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
Internet with the cheaper plans is cheaper ($5 a month cheaper to be more precise)
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
It isn't as much as I forgot, but rather I had no idea about it (then, again, I have never used Bing)
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
Wow! I had no idea Walmart sold these... I bought mine at Best Buy (had a $70 coupon from Rewards)

I was looking at this option and it is done through "Let's Talk"... and they do have their own set of rules (apart from TMOUSA)

But you are absolutely correct about everything you are saying... There will be various methods for doing this (which result in different savings) based on personal usage of the features of the plan. In my case, (as I explained in the first post) I don't really need internet 24/7 on my device since most of my waking time, I am in areas where wireless is available, so for me this translates into at least saving $30 per month (without accounting the fact that the unlimited voice is $10 cheaper as well), and here is the thing why I posted this. Remember that having internet when you are in a contract is not an option, it is a requirement... there is no way out of it unless you break your contract or pay full price for the phone. I figured this way to be cheaper for my usage type.

Maybe I will change the title of this thread to "Ways of Getting a Cheaper Device and No Contract" or something like that. I appreciate your input on this :)
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
Not bad, but why would someone pay $500 for a device on eBay (assuming shipping is included), when they can buy it brand new, from the store, no contract needed for $450? :confused:
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
I just checked it out and in order to do this, you have to have proof of purchase (receipt or UPC box label). I have a 7 year old Wallaby bought in eBay, a 5 year old Blue Angel, 2 0.5 year old Vogues (soon to be 4), soon to have a Tytn, and a Wizard (which I sold, but for the sake of argument, I will throw it in as well).... I cannot use any of these devices for that since I have no way of providing them with proof of purchase (and this happens to be the case for a lot of htc device owners around here).

It is a good resource to have though. Thanks for sharing.
[HD2 General] kcaj32:
Just spoke to LetsTalk customer support. aka Walmart $99 purchase.

They'll give you the phone for $99 but if you break the contract within 6 months, you'll have to pay $250 disconnect fee to LetsTalk in addition to the $200 charged by T-Mobile.

I went to a Sams Club last week and they had it for $142 + tax. The guy there said I can keep my existing plan (family plan and $25 android data plan).

So my plan is to buy the phone from Sams Club. If I like it, I'll stay on the new 2 yr contract and if I don't I'll break the contract after 30 days and sell it on craigslist (ebay charges a lot of fees).

I've been waiting for a good android phone for a long time (my contract on the G1 got over more than a year ago. But since T-Mobile is not getting any good androind phones, I'll try WM 6.5. Microsoft wins and Google loses. The last WM device I used was an MPX200. I would have bought the Nexus One if they allowed me to add it to my family plan with a discounted rate.
[HD2 General] mrbox23:
before u go getting phones at contract discount and canceling. you may want to read this http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1634784

basically says tmobile will start blcking IMEI's of phones from canceled contracts. I dont know if its legit but i just bought a HD2 from ebay and now im paranoid :( anyone heard of this?

Edit seller assured me thats not the case for me but still thats kinda scary.
[HD2 General] joefx13:
This is true!

But if you plan on keeping the phone for atleast 181 days, then lets talk will remove the fee (plus tmobile will only charge $100 per line). This would be the best decision for someone looking to keep the phone and not sell it anytime soon.
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
I guess this would apply more to being careful about buying the phone from 3rd party (places like ebay, craiglist, etc)
[HD2 General] kcaj32:
I spoke to T-Mobile too. Their policy for canceling 2 years contract is:

If you have more than 180 days from the end of the contract, you pay $200.

If you have more than 90 days but less than 180 before contract ends, its $50, and less than 90 days for contract to end, you pay $25.

But yes, I agree that someone who plans on keeping the phone for 2 years, its a good deal.
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
The issue with this (at least in my case) is that $40/month for 6 months = $240, which is more than the $200 from the cancellation fee. If you must keep the internet, then it is a different story altogether.
[HD2 General] dltrahan26:
Now I'm totally confused..

I got my HD2 for a walk out price of $22 in taxes and and agreement of 20 payments of $22.50 at 0%apr... and I still got the unlimited no-contract VOICE DATA AND TEXTS for about 88$... why are you guys paying so much ? Or was mine a fluke ?
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
You payed 450 + tax for the phone.

I payed $235
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
It is not "no contract". At least in my stores. You have to sign up for a plan, even it is month-2-month. You pay 450 + tax + 35 activation fee. That is $516 already. And sometimes they enforce you to stay on a plan for 2 weeks which considered "buyer remorse" period. And they charge you prorated for those 2 weeks. Otherwise you can cancel right away, but you MUST return equipment :(

While on eBay you pay $500 - 8% (Bing Cashback) = $460 and dont deal with TMO at all.
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
I was going to say the exact same thing :D
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
Yes, but then don't you end up making up the difference anyway in the fact that you pay more per month for a subsidized plan (i.e. Even More), than we do for the same plan unsubsidized (Even More Plus)?
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
You are absolutely correct... However,

a. Buying from a store allows you to ensure that you will not be getting a brick on the mail (meaning you are closer to safety since eBay and most online trading has been really shady over the last few years). There is always a risk when buying something that you cannot physically see. And returning it through eBay/Paypal policies?.... flat out nightmare (at least in my personal experience, you may have had better luck on this).

b. Buyer's remorse part.... totally agree as well. No, they cannot force you into a plan if you simply want to buy the phone. If you go into a Best Buy and tell them that you simply want the phone, they will sell it to you (maybe other stores could force you to get in a plan, but technically they cannot do that). After all, the only reason you go on a contract is simply because the carrier is subsidizing the purchase of the device (not the case of Sprint though, who force you into a contract as long as you want service with them... even if you bring your own device)

If you must go into a contract even by paying full price for the device, simply go with the cheapest possible plan, so even if they do pro-rate it, the hit will not be as bad.
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
True, which is why my method works a bit better since you end up paying $50 less for the device, if you pay the $200 upfront.
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
Many people have grandfathered plans or features which they do not want to leave. E.g. I have family plan 600 minutes (+ free m2m and nights/weekends) for $50 and $5.99 T-Zones web. And it serves me well enough ).

This plan is not available anymore. And T-zones are not offered for general public (although there may be a way to add it).

I still like the HD2 and wanted to get it, that is why I went that route with signing up and cancellation.
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
So, you followed my method or a variation of it?
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
Well ... eBay became much safer for buyers. Just buy from seller with reputation, pay with PayPal, dont buy if the price is TOO low. Getting a brick is highly unlikely. And if so, just file "Not as described" (NAD) claim with PayPal - very easy.

Sure it is safer (how much safer ?) to buy from store. But is it worth the difference in price ? For some - it does. For others - it does not.
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
I used promotion where I bought 2 HD2 phones for $200 + tax ($214) with no activation fees. Signed up for cheapest 2 year Family plan. Canceled after 2 weeks. Payed $400 in cancellation fees and prorated for 2 weeks of service. Sold 2nd phone on eBay. After everything my HD2 is $232 and I'm still on my old grandfathered plan. I should have done 4 phones on Family plan, though - it would be more profitable. So there is room for improvement :)
[HD2 General] Breakthecycle2:
Or you could just do what the T-mobile store did for me. They got me out of my 2 year, 2 line contract for nothing. They told T-Mobile I was going back overseas. Once Corporate agreed, they called back a different rep and opened a new account....WITH NO CONTRACT. I got two HD2's for $199, but I did have to get a new phone number.
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
Ok, I'll ask.... so, you basically told them you were going overseas and they just put you in a different plan??? Wouldn't they be able to check that you are still in the US by your billing address? I am a little confused, can you elaborate on this a bit?
[HD2 General] jquill:
You guys are ALL thinking WAAAAY too hard about this...

If you live in a ****ty 3g service area for t-mobile...theres nothing you can do about it until the summer when they do their major network upgrade

If you can't / shouldn't pay $30 a month for a data plan because of financial reasons or service quality then you shouldn't be with this phone on it's intended network.

Seems like nobody knows where to get a good deal around here...

This is how I got my HD2

Radioshack retail price is $149.99

I traded in my Sprint touch Diamond for an $80 store credit to put towards the HD2

Signed up for the 79.99 a month voice / data plan and I use Google Voice for free calling should I ever go over my minutes which I never do.

I get a 15% discount on my bill every month for being a Triple A member.

I paid $72 (that includes tax) for A BRAND NEW HD2

and I pay $68 a month for unlimited everything

You do the math....t-mobile is the best cell company in america. They just need to get their network bigger, which will come in the summertime.
[HD2 General] the show stopper:
when i bought my touch pro 2 the plan we normally use would cost us about $70 + $30 + $30 every month (coz we have 3 lines and we bought 2 new phones.)

but instead we bought both phones right away without contract and it was a lot cheaper then 2 year contract coz you have to have data plan if you want htc or blackberry.
[HD2 General] MrVarioII:
Could anyone tell me what such tricks are available in the UK with Orange and or 3 - i.e. Hutcheson 3G....

Orange are offering me an upgrade and I'm tempted. I could get one from 3 as well.

Looking at loyalty deals + new market deals, but if there are any contract cancelling tricks I'd be glad to see them.

Perhaps the contract laws work differently in the UK?
[HD2 General] senator2019:
just use no data

i got my hd2 on contract for 2 years but i wasnt mad to buy a internet plan. I stay on campus so i just use wifi all the time. Basically i just downloaded NOdata and turned off the tmobile internet so i wouldnt be redirected to web2 go.
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
I got my HD2 from Bestbuy by using a $70 credit from Rewards Zone and sold two of my Vogues for $70 a pop, so by using your logic, I paid $3.98 for my HD2 (after 7% tax). That's one thing, the other is that you got $80 for a trade of the Sprint TP for store credit (you could have gotten $120 in craiglist or even here at xda without too much effort).

As far as the plan you got yourself in.... I have to say... that's not bad. On top of that, nice tip about the AAA member discount (I had no clue). If I do what I must, I will end up paying $49.99 per month plus taxes and fees (again, I don't need data/sms on my device, and this is why I specified clearly in the first posts that the way this works will be based on the person's usage of the device and carrier's services). I still believe (main reason for this post) that their data service is not worth $30 a month. My wife is on Sprint's 3G and hers is far better (never went into a dead data spot).

T-Mobile is not the biggest carrier in America (in fact, I believe it was said to be the 3rd largest carrier (based on # of subscribers and coverage). On top of that, there are many rumors that it will be dropped by it's parent source in Europe since it is no as profitable (read an article in Engadget or CNet about it).
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
Erasing the Data account under Connection settings would have probably had the same effect, but yeah.... Just out of curiosity (as it is not clear from your post, but you did not get the data plan, did you?
[HD2 General] tnayrbj:
a question

Can I buy the HD2 from tmobile without contract and use it on AT&T for voice only and just use WIFI that I have at work and home? it doesn' tmatter about the drive I can not surf during that anyway.

Thanks

Jon
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
Yes, but you need to get it SIM unlocked.
[HD2 General] geronemo:
does BCB apply to 2yr. contract or even without contract with EMP plan??

please let me know as i not aware as to how BCB works.

and all i know is that i have to keep tmobile active for 60 days am i right, after that how do i get the cash back, is it credit or a cheque etc???

if you know the above please let me know.

Thanks :)
[HD2 General] geronemo:
well if you cancel your contract and you pay the $200 or $100 (depending on when your contract is ending) cancellation fee, then there shouldn't be a problem. I think issue will arise when ppl. cancel their plans and dont pay the cancellation fee.

Because when you're paying cancellation free you're giving tmobile the whole cost of the phone or there shouldn't be any issue.

I am sure ppl. who sell these phones on craiglist and ebay do pay that fee, at least most of them.
[HD2 General] geronemo:
there may be a way to get it?? How can one get tzones.
[HD2 General] geronemo:
unlocking should be around $20 right??
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
Check this thread ... you have to call and provide some kind of code to T-Mobile CSR. Make take few attempts.
[HD2 General] bogdatov:
T-Mobile CSR told me that you can get out of contract if you go overseas. But CSR told me that you have to provide some kind of proof. I did not go into details though
[HD2 General] geronemo:
you are absolutely right, my wife has att and gets 3G everywhere.

the funny thing is when i went tmobile store hd2 in their store only had EDGE and my wife's 3gs has 3G coverage :)

i returned mine because of a dead pixel after 5 days.

now after reading this awesome thread i am thinking i will use BCB full payment that should give me 35% back, but i do not know anything about BCB yet :(
[HD2 General] kingsully11:
I don't know about everyone else but in Boston and pretty much all of Massachusetts, I get great service from T-Mobile, there is no one better
[HD2 General] nqnguyen2:
Does anyone think this is the case? If it were true TMO would be screwing a lot of honest people that are buying used phones; like me. :(
[HD2 General] geronemo:
so you have the link for walmart online for HD2, i searched their website and cant find the hd2, at the store they were selling for $150.

http://walmart.letstalk.com/product/browse.htm?pgId=100&corpId=686

thanks.
[HD2 General] Breakthecycle2:
LOL..dude I know it sounds crazy and it wans't my idea. The store I went to wanted the sale. They said they do this all the time. They told the rep on the phone I was back to the army..lol. Crazy sounding I know, but I left without paying a fee and got two phones and a new account.
[HD2 General] Cal3b:
ok i have the ultimate solution for cheapest plan, and get the phone you want super cheap all with no contract. i currently have a HD2 on a no contract plan with unlimited text and internet and 500 minutes for 49.99. my HD2 only cost me $200.

here is how i pulled this off. i opened an even more plus plan giving them the IMEI from a regular phone, for mine i used a basic flip phone. i have had this plan since january with no problems. when the HD2 came out they had a buy one get one free on it. i opened a new account with two lines with two HD2s i got them both for $200 plus tax than i sold the second HD2 for $400 to cover the cancelation fee for both lines and kept the first one.
[HD2 General] geronemo:
So if i do this, meaning go through BCB then i have to stick with tmobile for 60 days right??

that means i pay $300 + tax= $ 320 for the phone.

$35 activation charge

$59.99 for EM+ plan for 2 months + tax = $130

that means $355+$130= $485

i personally think thats not so bad because i will be getting 500min+text+data for 2 months.

Now here my question for those 60 days that i have to be with tmobile to avail the BCB, can i drop the data plan and if i do how $$ monthly am i looking at??

Thanks for helping out guys :)
[HD2 General] geronemo:
for me this route goes out the window, as it is tmobile reception sucks in my area, on top of that if i cancel i pay $450 out of my pocket that is after initial $99 payment.