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[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Well, before buying a new touch module it may be worth a try...

If its getting worse --> nothing lost.

When it works --> saved some money.

This is the way I'd do it:

Search a better guide on the internet. Mine is not proven by anyone then me.

Take a "before" shot.

Cover all areas, that shouldn't be polished, with adhesive tape. Like the buttons, whole housing, speaker(s) and so on. Just that the scratched area remains.

Get some lint free cloth. Like the one, that came with your digital camera to clean the lens, or something from the cars aftermarket at your local do-it-yourself store. (Don't use it, if you like it too much... It will be cut and be useless afterwards.)

Cut the cloth into some handy pieces (3 - 4). Fold them a few times to get a half stiff / half loose "tool" that is wrapped around one or two fingers.

Depends on how deep the scratches are. If they are really deep: Continue with tooth whitening toothpaste. Then or if they aren't that deep: With common toothpaste without grinding ingredients.

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see 7.

see 7.

see 7. (o.k. I guess you got it... slight, patient but enduring polishing. Its better do go on slowly than too fast and with too much pressure. You'll need really long, your fingers will hurt and your phone will have that great herbal smell :D )

Use some wet cloth (wet due to water or better a little nail polish remover or even better 99% isopropyle alcohol (I love this stuff). Do not use methylated spirits. Otherwise you can restart at 4.

;) ) to clean the phone from toothpaste.

Polish a little more with the cloth only. No fluid this time.

Take a look at the result. If there are still micro scratches, you maybe can fill them slightly with some colour neutral car polish / wax. Again: Wax on / Wax off :D .

Repeat all steps till you're satisfied with the result.

Take a "afterwards" shot.

Post all shots here :D

Apply the screenprotector (If you get in trouble with that one --> No problem, you can clean the sticky side of the protector with adhesive tape. I'll guide you, If it happened :D )
[XPERIA X10 General] brodos123:
Thank you McKebapp:D You have really been to great help:D

I saw this: http://www.clasohlson.no/Product/Product.aspx?id=146988178

Maybe this is better then toothpast? but it is only for "acrylplastic".

Anyway thanks again!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Forget Displex. Somewhere I've got a few tubes over here. Not worth the money. It was overhyped at the early 200x years. Now each shop has it and they can't sell it off.

The only things that Displex can do, is making the Display matte and it also brings polishing holographs...

If you want one, PM me your adress.

You can have it for free, if I find it in the depths of my movement packages. Hopefully they've not dryed out xD.

I'd send it out on monday.
[XPERIA X10 General] brodos123:
No thanks:D

I will trust you of course!!

thanks mate!!:D
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Uhm... If I read my post again, It seems to be a little harsh.

Sorry for that.

My intention was just to give you the possibility to try Displex out on your own, without spending money. (And of course to phish your address to spam you with V14GRA and Swiss Chocolate :p ).

Please don't trust too much in my babbling here.

To my opinion it is always better to do own research and gain own experience.

Cheers :)
[XPERIA X10 General] brodos123:
hehe:D

Cheers;)
[XPERIA X10 General] asdfX02:
Sorry if this has already been covered, but what's involved in changing out the lights behind the menu/home/back buttons? Specifically, how much needs to come out to access it? The LEDs aren't surface mount are they? =/
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Hi asdfX02,

unfortunately, you have to go through my guide from Step 0 to Step 14 (You find in my Sig.).

The you have to desolder the two 0603 LED from that ribbon that they are mounted on. Be careful. If you're going with too much heat and/or to fast, you will destroy that ribbon. But: If your're too slow too, it will get defect too :D

Resoldering is also a little tricky. The other SMD Parts around are very close to the LEDs.
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Hey Guys,

I've just received a PM by some really kind girl, that is a little in trouble with S///Es warranty.

She bought her phone in Russia and lives now in France.

Russian Support won't help her, because she now lives in France, and France Support won't help her because her phone is from Russia... :rolleyes:

Lets find together a way, to get that thingly working again.

Here her question:

My thoughts about it:

We should determine if the vibrator is REALLY defective or if its just a software or settings problem.

Go to the hidden service menu. You can open it from Lockscreen by fast pressing: "menu > back > back > menu > back > menu > menu > back" .

There you go to "Service tests" --> "Vibrator" --> "Menu Button".

If that is activating vibra again, there is a problem with your settings or firmware...

If first idea shows, that vibra doesn't work, things are getting ugly...

The Vibrator is that thing in the lower left corner of this picture with the /01P print (you can find the close up photos in first post of this thread):

I'm really not sure anymore, if its soldered to the PCB (like it looks on the pictures) or if its just attached somehow...

My Idea: disassemble the complete phone and hold the battery to the contacts. Then press the on/off button. (You truly need some Bra-opening-skills for that, but it will work).

The phone should vibrate now.

If its not vibrating, try to determine, if there are any hairline cracks or if the vibra slided a little out of its housing (if there is any) (even more, one-handed-bra-opening-skills needed for that one, because you've got to play around the vibra with one hand, while you're holding the PCB and battery with the other handy, that also pushes the on/off button :D ).

If 2. is also not working, another idea is to test the vibra contacts with a multimeter, to see, if there is any voltage at starting the phone.

If the multimeter shows up something, the vibra has to be changed.

But: if it shows nothing, I'm out of any ideas without a service manual... :(

What do you other guys think?
[XPERIA X10 General] StrangeSavage:
McKebapp, once again, you are my HERO once and forever :)

so, cutting my lots of words [at least trying to o_O], here I am :

1. i've already done everything from this paragraph, sorry :( that was my first guess. service tests give no vibra. moreover, while today i was wasting my time (and money :) ) on the phone with french branch of SE technical support, i've already done a hard reset and a fresh reflash (with SEUS windows software, flashing the same firmware back again because there is no new available) as they've requested me to do (i told them about service tests and obvious hardware fault 1000 times but still they wanted me to play with losing my data & settings - btw, that's what i'm doing right now, reinstall all needed apps and get my data back from backups, instead of a peaceful sleeping :) ). so alas here :(

2. so we are getting to an ugly part.. as i read today everything i found in wikipedia and quite a lot in google about vibrating alert motors (btw, they are not referred as "vibrators" as I thought, in fact, "vibrator" turned out to be something very far from mobile phones technologies :))) i realized that it's something like a very small electric motor attached to an eccentric. So as long as it's nothing really complicated, it's still something i've never seen before and have no idea how to manage.. and my radio electronics skills are practically non-existent, frankly. and also.. i'm really afraid to disassemble my X10i by myself. i'm a nervous person and my hands start shaking even when i think about it ; i wonder what will happen when i'll get a screwdriver into them.. but the good thing is, i have a multimeter and am quite familiar with it :) so if i'll manage to fight my fear, i have all the instruments to do a differential diagnosis :)

so the only question i have left is : is it possible to find X10 OEM vibrating alert motor anywhere ? local dealers, ebay, something ?.. just to be on a safe side if it turns out mine has to be changed, because if i can not buy this little thingy, all the disassembling seems questionable..

and the last-last thing : i'm really really kind, but not a guy. i'm a gal, because i'm a "she" :) so these highly praised one-handed-bra-opening-skills.. oops, not my case ;)))
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Uhm... *ahem*.... :o

*drawingcircelswithmitfingertothedesk* :rolleyes:

(Damn... how do I get out of this :p )...

<ironicmode>

I knew that before. :cool:

I just wanted to save you from millions of PMs by these little testosterone-overfilled-nerds here :D

I bet the crowd is getting nuts if a girl is heading straight forward to a technical forum, that even knows technical terms :D .

</ironicmode>

O.k. enough lying. I apologize for that gender bender thing before.

Sometimes, while I'm writing to internet forums, "Pavlovs dogs" bolt with me, like a horse whose blinkers where taken off on a highway.

I'll stop posting infantile stuff (while you're around :p ).

(Heading to edit my post before ;) )

13? Is it you? :D

Btt.:

Please be patient for a few hours.

I'll disassemble my phone, to take a closer look to the vibra.

just to determine if its clipped, soldered or whatever.

Then we can take out our crystal ball to think about what to do next.

I wanted to do it anyway, to take some shots of the chips, underneath the shielding.

Now, I have an even better reason to do it. :D

I'll update you as soon as possible.
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Uhm... things are getting even worse...

I just disassembled my phone once again.

First of all, here are the closeup shots:

As you can see, the holder of the vibra is heavily soldered to the PCB.

If the vibra itself is defective, its weight has to be pulled off (really hard).

Then it can be taken out of its housing by lifting its back out of the housing (there are some little black clips that have to wiggled away, you can also see them on third shot).

But: after seeing this, I'm not really sure, if the vibra itself is defective.

I had about 5 defective vibras at 2000 phones I repaired.

Three of them were just connection related on Nokia 33xxs.

Only two had a defective engine...

But on this one? Hard to say.

At best its just a cold / broken solder joint on one of the connectors.

There is no way, that the vibra got loosened by sliding out of its holding.

Is there really no chance to send it to someone you know back in Russia?

So that this person could claim the warranty for you?

If there is no chance, I'm coming back to the point, where we need a multimeter to determine the defect a little further.

I'd measure the two connectors while pressing the on/off button, to see if its a problem, coming from the PCB or the vibra itself.

Take a look at my guide. You'd just have to remove the backhousing and the memory/sim module. That's all. The PCB can remain at its place.

It isn't that hard. You need just some overcoming to get further, if you hear any creaking noises :) .

If its just a cold solder joint, I could resolder it within a minute.

If the vibra engine itself is defective...

Puha...

As there are still no spare parts available, my Idea is to simply put or solder a vibra from another phone to the connectors and glue it with some hot glue in place...

But it is not the best solution after all.

Whats your opinion?
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
Ive just ordered all the spare parts to change the housing on my X10, after i have dropped it :o:(

How hard was it to remove the screen from the housing? :)

Thanks

Andy
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Hi Andy,

just to be 100% sure:

Are you talking about taking out the LCD screen _out_ of the front housing from the inside?

Or do you like to know how hard it is to split the glued touchmodule from the front housing on outerside?

Cheers,

McK
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
I'll removing the LCD screen from old housing and putting it in the new? and also how hard is it to spilt the screen from the housing? :D

Thanks

Andy
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Well... unfortunately, you're asking for the steps, I didn't take shots of, yet.

Please read my disassembly guide at least once very carefully.

I've written down the whole procedure.

When you come to the LCD screen, it will be very easy for you. You do it the same way you had to remove the PCB earlier. It is just not clipped as hard as the PCB.

You'll need to use a small flat screwdriver to pinch between the two parts and wiggle them a litte to open the clips.

It is hard for me to describe it, without pictures.

But it is really not that hard, if you have the parts in front of you.

On a scale from 1 to 10 where 1 is "Piece of Cake" and 10 is "Mobilephone Rocketscience", I'd say the whole X10 disassembly is just a 5.

Removing the PCB is a 3 and removing the LCD a 2.

I'll take some pictures about how to do it, when strangesavage visits me to together repair her phone on the weekend after this.

To the touchmodule:

I didn't spilt them till now.

But wai_lai416 did it before:

Unfortunately he didn't upload any pictures yet.

So I kindly ask you to take some pictures of the whole wiggling thing and touchmodule transplantation to complete my guide. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
Is the screen all one module?

So it could be just a case of removing that from the housing and placing it in the new one? :)
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
The "Screen" is kind of a three / four parts package.

1st layer is the stock screenprotector.

2nd layer is the touchmodule which is glued to:

3rd layer the fronthousing.

4th layer is the LCD which is clipped to the inside of the 3rd layer.
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
This isn't going to be a simple task then :(

I'll await your instructions, to see how you get on :D
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
I'm sorry, I didn't get this one as my English isn't that good? :o

Could you please describe it a little more? :)
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
I will wait for the pictures at the weekend on how to dissemble the screen :)

Thanks

Andy
[XPERIA X10 General] Xstarz:
nice to see how the x10 looks inside :p

thanks to do this!
[XPERIA X10 General] UserX10:
I´m asking myself why you didn´t looked up at this... https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...=N&application_id=383229&fcc_id='PY7A3880056'

external photos

internal photos

it´s available for about a half year, so if someone is interested in how his X10 looks inside... here you can get it...
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
I tried several times...

But whatever I did at looking at that pictures...

The LED lightning on my phone didn't change to amber.

Really. :D

If everything I do would make any sense...

How boring would life be then? :rolleyes:

But thanks to post that link.

I didn't know it after all.

While taking the vibra pictures I also took some pictures of the chips.

Right now, you saved some of my time.

But I'll post, what is written on the chips, this weekend.

Even what is exactly written underneath the sticker on the snapdragon chip and on that chip, that is hidden underneath the metal bar (I pinched it off at my phone...)
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
As

posted before.

There you can see the chips in the PDF made by FCC.

I've also taken some shots.

Unfortunately I don't own a makro lens (yet).

So please use both sources to determine the chips...

Anybody willing to do some search which chip is doing what?

I'm a little busy in RL atm. :(
[XPERIA X10 General] sim-value:
I think

is not what you meant (Übersetzt: ich nehme an dir den kleber mit einem Föhn aufzuheizen)

Better:
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Thanks, just edited it :)

Cheers,

McK
[XPERIA X10 General] shitnab:
The Stormtropper phone is nomore :( the little crack that i made in the touch module has now became bigger and the touch doesnt work at all now :S gotta buy a new one and its pretty expensive.. :'( slash cry
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Maybe intrancer can help you out as he sells spare parts over here.
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Hi Andy,

take a look at steps 13 and 16.

I'm sure, you'll be able to disassemble the phone now.

Feel free to post at anytime, if you've further questions :)

Kind Regards,

McK
[XPERIA X10 General] rosco16:
Excuse my bad english

My friend changed cover black to white but during proccess he broken touch display ...he said that glue is strong

Do you know any method for extracting touch display without crashing it ?

Cheers
[XPERIA X10 General] rosco16:
Could it be a good idea to apply air hot from hayrdryer before disassembling touch display ?
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
I'm pretty sure, he wasn't patient enough.

But, I didn't change the module myself, yet.

As I suggested before, my idea is still to slowly heat the glue with a hairdryer.

The going on like wai_lai416 said: starting at one edge, an lift the module a millimeters.

Maybe its a good idea to place a toothpick, where you lifted the touchmodule.

Then you heat + lift the next 1cm, put another toothpick an so on, till you're once around

But never ever bend it or pull it too high, as a millimeter is enough.
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
Wooohooo spare parts have arrived.

Now to fit them :o
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
I'll keep my fingers crossed. :)

Just post, if you get stuck.

I'm still online for a about 1 - 1,5 hours from now..

And PLEASE take some shots from disassembling the touchmodule... :)
[XPERIA X10 General] AndyD777:
I'm not going to do it tonight, I am going to save it till the weekend and I also need to find a hair dryer :D

Andy
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Who needs Hairdryer at all? :D

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[XPERIA X10 General] fadimck:
you are a crazy guy, good job buddy
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Thanks fadi-MCK ;)

If I couldn't really help on root, I could at least do some other useful things.

Kind regards,

Mck
[XPERIA X10 General] sim-value:
Do you think it would be possible to buy a Camera Module and put it behind the Front Plate?

Are there free connections to which you could connect it ?

Afterall there was a Camera in the Prototypes
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
I was also thinking about that before, and discussed it with StrangeSavage.

But there is barely no room for it.

On the upper left of the phone, the Loudspeaker is placed.

And upper right?

Se yourself:

The only place would be the pinouts, we thought they were JTAG, before.

But they are in a too low place. They are behind the Display right now...

If you ask me: No Way with this PCB.
[XPERIA X10 General] sim-value:
Ah okay, would have been nice to do what SE couldnt :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Joanmi:
McKebapp Hello

I saw your second post now to remove the phone and the work you've done to change the OEM housing. Very good job!

Sorry for the intrusion on the question that I'm going to do, but, are you doing a tutorial on how to mount the phone OEM housing? that the community would be cool to have a detailed step by step tutorial for mounting the phone to either customize or as I do to repair the damage that I have been in the cabinet.

Sorry for the intrusion once again, but it's something I'd like to fix, and that there is no SE SAT here in Mallorca and I doubt that this repair can be carried out or want it, anyway, talk to SE customer care here in Spain, to confirm whether such repairs can be carried out.

But anyway, if you wanted to do the tutorial would be very beneficial to the community.

That said, I feel the intrusion, you have to do what you want and as you believe it is only a proposal but anyway Thank you for attending

Greetings!
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Hi Joanmi,

I'm very sorry. I'm not a native English speaker.

I didn't get the point of your post.

Do you want to change the housing at all?

Simply go through all steps of my disassembly guide.

That way you can change the housing.

Or did I get it wrong? :o

Kind Regards,

McK
[XPERIA X10 General] Joanmi:
Hello

well, at least two of us that our native language is not English ... hehehe

Jokes aside.

point of view on what I want to do it:

Having been reading your tutorial, I saw that to dismantle the whole terminal, ie the components of the plate. What I would like to know is whether to change the whole case, I need to remove each of the components that are anchored in this? or you can remove the entire motherboard without removing any component to be mounted in another enclosure?

(Obviously I have to remove the screen)

I hope it was as clear as possible

A greeting and thanks in advance.
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
OK, now I understood. Unfortunately you have to do all the steps described.

Each part is assembled to the housing somehow.

So you have to disassemble the complete phone if you want a 100% housing...
[XPERIA X10 General] junkk29:
McKebapp, you are one badass modder/hacker...

Thanks for all your posts. You deserve respect from all of us :)
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Thanks pal,

feel free to ask any hardware related stuff over here.

I monitor this thread and will answer / help asap.

Kind Regards,

McK
[XPERIA X10 General] hiraj_panosian:
Mckebap Thank you very much for your great tutorial, it helped me very well:D don't know what I had to do without it:)

Viele Danke
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Nice to read :D

Did you make any before --> after Shots?

Hartelijke Groeten naar het Nederlande :)
[XPERIA X10 General] lildic:
awesome housing
[XPERIA X10 General] viks X10i:
great job!!!! thanx for showing me wat my phone is holding in it!!
[XPERIA X10 General] drobec208:
please forgive me my silly question but is there any chance to add FM radio? :)

thx
[XPERIA X10 General] TechGuru_x10:
Try it for yourself and let us know.....
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Only by using a bluetooth headset with build in FM radio ;)

On the pcb is no more room :-(
[XPERIA X10 General] drobec208:
thanks for meaningful response. bluetooth headset is not an option as the main reason why I'm asking are RDS-TMC informations for navigation app. But there are some TMC receivers (but I'm not sure about Android support).
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
Okay, didn't know that.

I don't see the problem with a bluetooth to tmc adapter to connect it to the X10.

Its there any navigation App that supports TMC?

I'd give it a try. Just didn't have the idea myself, yet ;-)

TMCpro or HDTraffic would be even nicer :-D
[XPERIA X10 General] drobec208:
I'm not sure but Sygic maybe (WM version supports it)
[XPERIA X10 General] McKebapp:
I make use of Sygic a few hours a day. It has no option directly, but I remember something within the .ini files. I'll look it up this evening.

Any suggestions for a TNC to BT device?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxitup:
Hi all

Today I accidentally booted my Desire into the Fastboot screen (minds gone blank cant remember what its called). The one with the three skateboarding androids.

Anyway, in mine I noticed I had 4 options in there, is this normal?

Fastboot

Recovery

Format

SimLock

This may be normal, but it looks different than the one on my G1?

I am on a UK T-mobile Desire with stock rom.

Anyone know if this is normal.

Thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rhedgehog:
yes it's normal.

yes it's different from the G1.

yes, it's been asked before:D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxitup:
thanks for the reply
[Desire General] amarko5:
I am wanting to run some java programs on my desire, what do i need to do this ??

i used myriad on my winmo device but cant seem to find anything suitable to run .jar files on my desire :confused:
[Desire General] jauhari:
I need this trick too... did anyone found any solutions?
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
There is a way to do this, I don't know how however.

Just thought I'd give this topic a bump for you, I'm sure the Hero version of Sense actually came with an app that ran Jar files :confused:
[Desire General] oursoul:
I need to know the answer to this also.

This all singing all dancing phone is missing some important features, J2ME support is one of them. Surely the web browser supports Java so there must be good apps out there?

Please help someone?