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[HD2 General] nikoskavliaris:
Well somebody is t-mobile's little bi@tch! (How you like that for your title uh?)

Any ways it looks like you have lot's of spare money to use on your cellphone company (or maybe someone else pays (mom or dad?) your cellphone bill). Well let me tell you i pay for my telephone bill and is about $350 a month. And i would like to know everything of how i can save money to my phone bill. Now since you are a "patriot" and you want to support your country's economy. Let me tell you that these kind of companies are the one responsible for bringing the economy to her knees. And by the way for your own knowledge(because the forums are here to learn and not mock), t-mobile is not an American company. Do some research for Deutsche Telekom.Or never mind I've done that already for you. Deutsche means German. Telekom means Telecommunications. So German Telecommunications. Don't believe me? Follow link----> http://www.t-mobile.com/Company/CompanyInfo.aspx?tp=Abt_Tab_CompanyOverview

Any way that's that for aoakes

Back to the topic... Anybody try to extend their contract online? I have unlimited minutes and text but no data plan. So i went to a t-mobile store and they told me that i had to purchase the data plan for at least a year in order to get the hd2. This is about $30 extra per month and i can't afford that. So i went online and did a full purchase of the phone online. But it didn't mention to change my plan with data added to it. Now i have the phone for a month and i don't see any extra charges. I Even call t-mobile to verify and they told me that I don't have any data plan. So if you still want to keep t-mobile as your carrier and you can upgrade your device try doing it online. You pay the $199 and $18 upgrade and just $8 for shipping. I'll choose that extra $8 over the $30 every month that a t-mobile representative will force you to get at a t-mobile store. (I guess they get commission of every new line or upgrade?)
[HD2 General] jquill:
I'm doing this tomorrow...haha
[HD2 General] PoisonWolf:
Niko,

How did you do this exactly? Do you log into your account and choose Upgrade from the list? I tried to select a Touch Pro 2, and under the options of both contract or extension, it said quite clearly, "Data Plan Required". So...I'm curious how exactly did you get the phone on a contract + not get charged data.

OP,

I was wondering, do you really save $50 when they charge an additional 2 weeks worth of pro-rated usage? It seems like it'll add up to 450 + tax just the same, or pretty minimal. If this is really the case, is it worth the hassle and wouldn't it be better to just buy the phone outright for $450?
[HD2 General] nikoskavliaris:
Well once you click to details and add to cart above the picture of the phone it would say in red letters "The device you purchased requires a data service.

A data service is required in order to access your device’s Web functionality and features, including Internet access and e-mail. To add a data service, you may need to return to My.T-Mobile.com after you receive your device."

Well when i purchased the phone it was saying only "Data service required". But now it's more clear that you have to go manually and add it by yourself through My.T-Mobile.com . So i suppose that you don't have to if you don't want it. Now i was thinking about to purchase the phone from radioshack due to the discount but when i got there they told me that i needed to purchase data service also. Well i gave em the story(not that it was true):p that i could get it from a t-mobile store without data plan. And he looked at me and he said "Really?!? They must be pretty desperate to do that." So i figure out that when you purchase the phone through a store they "Force" you to add data plan.

Although i have to say that the hd2 without internet data plan you don't get the full experience, But when money is short you can always use the wifi. ;)
[HD2 General] PoisonWolf:
Thanks Niko,

Interesting. I have a feeling if you do call T-Mobile though for whatever reason, they're likely to automatically add the data-plan back to your account because in my mind, it seems like a breach of contract or something. Do keep us informed if a "pro-rated" charge of missed data-plan payments do occur though, that would be most interesting.

Nah, I'm in the same boat, I'm not really interested in having internet on the phone. I'm in areas with WIFI 100% of the time. So paying $30 USD a month for that is kinda redundant.

Cheers.

P.S. You didn't So i went online and did a full purchase of the phone online, because what you did pay for was the 2-year contract extension upgrade. A full price would have been $450. I wish you the best of luck to not incur any data-plan charges at this point since canceling the contract would result in the $200 ETF charge.
[HD2 General] egzthunder1:
I just posted a guide, which I believe might be useful to some people since it is a bit of a smart approach to saving money in the long run. If you believe that you have better ways to save money or to do things in a different manner, I am happy for you.

Now, to the moderating aspect of this post. I will not edit/delete your comments since you are entitled to have an opinion. Having said this, what you are doing is flaming and it is against forum rules. You are also being rude and disrespectful to others (me in this case).... also against forum rules. This is a first warning. Break the rules again, and it will earn you a 2 week ban.
[HD2 General] nikoskavliaris:
well i'm not planing to switch carriers (i have a family plan and i have other lines added). Although i don't think they can give you extra data plan charges since i haven't sign up for it. Even if they do they have to have a proof that i called and added it. (Probably my voice or my signature) i believe purchasing the phone online i don't think they have any proof(that wonders me if someone can purchase from other carriers the same way). Although as you mentioned i did extend my contract (So i didn't buy a new contract or anything like that). So far i didn't see any extra charges. Even if i do i'll give em a call and ask them what is that "data plan". If they say that is automatically in my account. I'll Give em Hell. Until they take it off ;).

Like another member posted above. They are for profit, and i believe they make a hell of a profit off me. :D
[HD2 General] aoakes:
QUOTE=egzthunder1;6234254]For my 3000 post, I figured I would do something special for those of us fresh into TMOUSA's crappy 2 year contract (and for those thinking about it).

We all drooled and drooled consistently until TMOUSA came out with the HD2. There is a catch though, it is through TMOUSA. Many people have reported crappy service (cell-wise) and flat spots for data coverage (3G areas turning into Edge, turning into GPRS, into no-data). On top of that paying $450 for a device is not exactly appealing either ($199 sounds like a much better deal after all). I have been thinking about it long and hard and I came up with the perfect mathematical solution for getting a cheaper HD2, sticking to TMOUSA cheaper plans (or leave TMOUSA altogether), and not paying for such crappy data plan/coverage. If you are like me, you are surrounded by an accessible Wifi signal about 70-80% of your waking day, so being forced to pay $30 per month is borderline stupid.

[highlight]Edit: My method is only for

brand new devices

. A lot of you are suggesting cheaper solutions by buying them off eBay or craiglist, which will come with the added risk of device malfunctions or scams. If you feel adventurous enough to go down these paths... by all means. It usually works out better in the end anyways. But this method ensures a brand new device, that you will get on the spot.[/highlight]

Without Further Ado, I give you the "Scr3w You Very Much, TMOUSA" Method...

I hope this is useful into deciding if you are getting a HD2 but don't want TMOUSA as your carrier or simply don't feel like paying a lot to them.[/QUOTE]

okay so we see a problem? whole article is flaming?? Ex1 "Scr3w You Very Much, TMOUSA" Method..." Ex2 "TMOUSA's crappy 2 year contract" ex3 "crappy service (cell-wise) and flat spots for data coverage" Ex4 "being forced to pay $30 per month is borderline stupid."

Can a moderator flame a company and not expect a reader to get upset. yes i agree title and name calling isn't necessary. i shouldnt had said anything and requested you to remove the post or reported this page to xda and t mobile. you're summary is tmobile is a rip off, but you must have their exclusive device but its not worth $450. After reading 5 pages of other users complaining based on what you stated became a TMOUSA bash fest all in itself which started with your "Scr3w You Very Much, TMOUSA" Method".. since this is how you felt.... You set my mood, i wrote back and lashed out taking your post not so good as useful advice.
[HD2 General] redstealth:
Well I just did the same thing that nikoskavliaris did, and am hoping they won't automatically add the data plan on. Like he said, I'm extending my 2 year contract and so I did not have a dataplan on it. Is it possible for them to automatically add it on? Keep us updated on if they ever add it on nikoskavliaris. And if they do, is there any way to take it off, I cannot afford 30 dollars a month for 2 years.
[HD2 General] nikoskavliaris:
so far nothing on. Another way to check if you have data plan added automatically is try to get on a web site through your opera browser. Not the web2go.com but another ones such as xda-developers.com :D

Make sure you are using 3g connection and not your wifi

If it doesn't load up and is taking you to the web2go.com site and is asking you to upgrade your contract with data plan you are good to go. If you can access websites through your 3g network you have data plan.

If is that the case then you have to give them a call. Tell them that you don't want data plan. If they say that you signed up automatically when you purchase the phone give them a good excuse (such as I didn't do it, i had my son or brother to do it. I am not very good with the internet"). If they insist you insist back. Tell em you can afford the data plan and you use t-mobile data plan before with your job and is not that great to your area that you live, so it's useless. If they still insist, tell them that you will cancel the contract and you don't want the phone then and you want to return it. In that case probably they will tell you is a cancellation fee. Then tell them that it shouldn't since i don't want the phone and your services. In that point they will have to put you in hold and have a manager/supervisor talk to you. Explain him or her and they should do it. On that point you put the "Best customer satisfaction" award that they get every year(which they advertise it a lot) on test.

Well that was my plan if something was going wrong with the data plan ;)

Keep me up to date to see what happen.

P.S. Yes it sounds sneaky. But since we are in a darwinism like(survival to the fittest) economical system. You try to survive through the beasts!!:cool:
[HD2 General] geronemo:
Ok guys i got the ultimate deal.

On memorial day weekend HD2 price at radioshack was $99 for a 2 yr. contract and with no extra cancellation charges by radioshack other than tmobile charges, i missed that deal, and later signed up for radioshack newsletter.

and guess what after 5 days that deal is BACK ON, yes as we speak,

HTC HD2 is for $99 at Radioshack for a new 2yr. contract, i signed up yesterday am loving the deal and installed CHT with editor already :)

My area like many others have crappy (meaning almost no) 3G coverage so i will be cancelling the contract 1 month from now and maybe go for EM+ or att family plan.

This deal will probably end next week.

Also 1 radioshack outlet suggested other wise out of the 5 outlets i called, so i didn't go to that one, so make sure you guys call in before heading to the store.
[HD2 General] nikoskavliaris:
Yeah i think I heard that before where you can pay for a month and then cancel the data plan. I haven't try that method yet but if it works then you can get even cheaper deals. Than the one that i mentioned. Good find for the radioshack.

I found from another post in the forum that there is a promo code $50 to $100 for online or telephone purchases.

follow the link for the promo code:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=697493
[HD2 General] geronemo:
I can bet that if we were talking about Verizon than so many ppl. wouldn't be jumping on the bandwagon, the fact is that tmobile's 3G is really weak and that is why so many ppl. like myself get frustrated at times.

i am paying $80 a month for 500min + unlimited text + and EDGE data.

the only place i get 3G is on the highway, obviously i wont be using web while i am driving.

And the fact that plans used to be much higher is a thing of the past, specially when it comes to electronics and mobile phones, 6 months ago is pretty much "very old" in tech world.

for e.g. When you see a bad movie, you talk about it.

If Sprint Evo's 4G coverage will be weak ppl. will talk about that too, just like they also talk about ATT's dropped calls.

Its as simple as that, no need getting all personal about it, unless you've invested your hard earned money in tmobile. :D

So chill out guys.
[HD2 General] geronemo:
There's a rumour on the web that all tmobile phones including the HD2 might be sold free with a 2 yr. plan on JUNE 19th.

so anyone planning on getting one might as well wait it out.

i already got one from radioshack for $99.
[HD2 General] chgoenforcer:
I just purchased my HD2 at Walmart for $48.88 W/2 yr contract today, supposed to be on sale all week. hope this helps.
[HD2 General] huevo0000:
are there any extra cancellation fees besides the t-mobile 200$???

edit: "Cancellation of this purchase option within the first 61 days of activation will result in a $100 penalty charge". (walmart.com)
[HD2 General] jo_iii:
"It's at that price as long as it gets" -Wallmart Associate
[HD2 General] geronemo:
i have 1 question for you, i also recently got the hd2 off radioshack,

but on the radioshack recite it says my service has to active for 90 days since the time off purchase otherwise i will have to pay the retailer (radioshack) $200 aswell if i donot return the phone.

This means if i cancel within 90 days, i have two senarios:

1) Pay tmobile $200 and return the phone to radioshack.

2) Pay tmobile $200 and radioshack $200 if i do not want to return the phone to radioshack.

After 90 days of active use i will only have to pay tmobile $200 cancellation fee.

Please let me know if your recite said anything like that.

Thanks alot.
[HD2 General] nikoskavliaris:
well i heard that too where you have to pay radioshack also 200 bucks. the reason is that the phone is owned to radioshack and not to t-mobile. this is a way that radioshack makes money. although if you haven;t pass the 14 days of having the phone. i suggest you get it back and look for another cheaper deal out there. like walmart that is mentioned above. i kniw that some other companies dropped the 200 dollars that you have to pay. just look around and u'll

get a better deal
[HD2 General] geronemo:
There's always a better deal around the corner like the one on 19th July by tmobile where all phone will be free, but this is my 2nd HD2 the 1st i bought was messed up so had to return it, now i dont want to go through all of that again.

Plus if i use the device for 90 days then tmobile will give me the unlock code, right??

Then i will probably move to att where i already have a line to be on family plan, as it is my 3G coverage here aint that great tmobile.

So i have one question?

If i use this phone for 90days than i shouldn't be paying radioshack anything, right??

Also will tmobile give me the unlock code after 90days or will they give me a hard time??

thanks for your help.
[HD2 General] bml5631:
If you call into TMOUS and tell them you are leaving the country on business and do not wish to incure huge roaming charges they will give you the code for free as long as you account is in good standing. Takes about 24hr for them to shoot you an email with the code.
[HD2 General] ramsyst:
Clarification

Just to make the Radioshack deal clear.

1.)They offer HTC HD2 at $99.99 plus tax goes up to $119

2.)Switching plan is your right and it does not mean you cancelled your service with TMO. So Radioshack can't charge you for a dime.

3.)When you call TMO to switch plan, they will only tell you to take the phone back to the dealer and pay $500 to get EM+

4.)Tell them you are willing to pay the $200 cancellation fee to switch to EM+. They cannot refuse and it is your right to do so.

5.)You will get your phone on EM+ for $119 + $200 = $319

6.)I personally did this and did not get any extra fees. Hope that help you folks out there

7.)My first bill will be $290 including the cancellation fee, I chose the 59.99 EM+ plan

Hope it clarifies. Or the Walmart deal might be another option! Cheers
[HD2 General] geronemo:
I just opened the account with HD2, so i wont be in good standing, i guess i will wait a month before calling them, what do you suggest.

thanks.
[HD2 General] geronemo:
Thanks for the clarification.

I really appreciate it :)
[HD2 General] JediFonger:
hi, can som1 do this... but for the walmart and the tmo direct deals?

i'm curious what the actual bottom line is :D
[HD2 General] redsox123:
Very cheap option for those who don't talk much

If there is anyone who does not talk much, like me, you should look at the side kick prepaid plan. It's $1/day for Unlimited e-mail, texting, IM, and Web browsing. 15¢/minute for all domestic calls. For me I add a $100 refill and that lasts usually around 3 months. I know on T-mobiles website it says for select side kick devices only but i've used this plan on my Excalibur, tilt, fuze, and now my HD2 and everything works fine including 3G and MMS.
[HD2 General] DaveNavy:
ITS FREE!!!

HD2 is Free today online at TMOUS website!!!!:eek:
[HD2 General] nikoskavliaris:
yeah. I don't you have to rub it on everybody's faces. I paid mine for $200

it's pretty rediculus of how much the value of the phone can be downgraded so much. The only thing that i give iphone congrats. It how they manage to keep it on the same price for y e a r s!! But of course on the other side. It always feel good to get something when it just got out!!
[HD2 General] brucegil:
Saving Money on HD2/T-Mobile?

Following the suggestions of Joefx13 from back in April, I went to the Wal-mart website and ordered the HD2 for $79.99, plus a spare battery for $30. I got the cheapest T-Mobile call plan ($39.99/month) plus the required data plan for $30/month. So my monthly cost (less fees and taxes) will be $69.99. That is halfway between the standard T-Mobile plans for no contract ($60) and 2-year contract ($80) for that package.

If I followed his method and canceled after 6 months ($100 fee), my cost would be $600 ($80 - phone, $420 - 6 months of plan fees, $100 cancellation fee). Then switch to a no-contract plan at $60/month. For 18 months - $1080. Add in the initial 6 months costs of $600 and my 2-year costs are $1,680. However, keeping the current plan for 2 years is only $1,760 (phone and plan). The difference - the $80 cost of the phone.

My bigger problem is that I still have my AT&T family plan, which I don't want to disrupt because my daughter is still in college (with her iPhone) and my wife has had the same mobile number since 1993 (early bag phone).

I guess I could get the SIM unlocked, quit T-Mobile and put in my AT&T SIM, but I would have only EDGE service, not 3G.

The main thing now, though, is how well the HD2 works. I have a lot of WM apps on my old Dell Axim, most of which I hope to install on the HD2 (wish me luck). I hope I don't have to use this website too much. :)

Thanks for the Wal-mart idea, Joefx13. You saved me some money.
[HD2 General] brucegil:
I still see $199. do you have to go all the way through Checkout to get the free price?
[HD2 General] brucegil:
I still see $199. Do you have to go through checkotu to get the "free" price?
[HD2 General] brucegil:
Joefx13:

See my comments about your ideas in post 155 on page 16. You saved me some money. Thanks
[HD2 General] richteralan:
I didn't think it is possible! But seeing you have succeed I might try this.

Thanks!:D
[HD2 General] jsmith723:
This works for the first time you set up that T-mobile account but there are no upgrades when you are on a no contract. Unless you plan on activating/cancelling every time a phone comes out i'd stick with the 12mo upgrade system T-mobile has for smartphones.

(just because i forget the HD2 price off the top of my head i will use the Galaxy S)

Full price : $500

monthly bill unlimited everything 80x12mo = 960

$1460 total cost

2yr price: $200 + $200 to break contract= $400

Unlimited everything plan $80x12= 960

1360

2year contract: $200

$100 unlimited everything plan 100x12= 1200

$1400 total cost

Total savings if you scam T-mobile with phone is less than $100 and you would have to do it every year since the 2 year contracts can get a full upgrade every 12 months. Not saying to do it or not to do it. Just saying they are about even.
[HD2 General] sirphunkee:
Since when can a regular plan on a 2-year contract get a full update after only one year? I believe that you're not eligible for the full upgrade until 20 or 22 months into your 24-month contract.

For me, the main advantage for taking the Even More Plus (aka EM+) plans is that T-mobile will spread the cost of the phone out over your monthly bill, so the price difference is practically nothing (when compared to the premium non-EM+ customers pay each month)....and I'm not stuck with a contract :)
[HD2 General] justinxtreme:
You forgot to mention there's a required activation fee isn't there like $30 so the $199 + $200 + $30 activation fee will end up with $429 and you'll end up only saving $20 after going through all the trouble but it might be worth it. For me T-Mobile's service is great, live in a very popular area, Orlando and have never encountered a dead spot once with T-Mobile.

Had an iPhone used with them, worked great then got an HD2 and it works great too.

All-in-all the only thing I hate is the different 3G frequency they use causing incompatibility (with 3G data services) on different phones. But otherwise great service and EDGE is really faster than expected.
[HD2 General] marmotabassriderx:
i left att tilt2 for tmous vibrant, i dont get as many minutes, but i dont talk wither, so data is my way to go, im saving a lil under 100 a month, but tmobile signal doesnt spread out where im at, but i have wifi at home, which i stay all day long
[HD2 General] JB6464:
So were you able to get 3G internet speeds with the Web2go $9.99/month plan on the HD2 ?
[HD2 General] jamesbryant:
I just switched to the $10/month plan. Don't know if it is web2go or what but its unlimited data and email. Also added the 300 texts for something like $3 or $4. Changed to internet2.voicestream and I am getting 3G on WM and H on droid.

Saves me $15 a month.
[HD2 General] agentdomo:
lol I got mine for free cause the t-mobile dealer was awesome. Instead of getting upgrades for the other phones in my plan I got the HTC HD2 fo free!!!!
[HD2 General] Big Dawg 23:
I just moved to T-Mo from Verizon. I got mine from Amazon for $49.99 with Free Shipping and activation. I like Android but not having to deal with Root to change OS will be nice. Not mention the HD2 has a very snappy 1GHZ Snap Dragon.