yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m1k3-:
"Jake Day wrote on 05/26/10 9:32 PM

For starters (again), the Incredible uses a different model of the qsm then the Nexus One did. This same proc is used in other devices at 1.3 ghz, which works fine on the Incredible. Look it up first next time. Also, the 1.5 is not stable as I have said, and 2.0 is a theory (just like my 1.8 ghz for the Droid, which many people could boot and run).

Secondly, I started this thread mentioning I had the kernels built for a friend. I never mentioned having root packaged, that was just mentioned in comments. I didn't promote anything without proof... I was mentioning I was working on Incredible kernels as others already knew. I'm already known for having kernel knowledge so no need to provide proof there...

Lastly, have some patience. I'll get the phone tomorrow and work on it this weekend."
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hero_Over:
look at this article

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3710/...le-review-clearly-better-than-the-nexus-one/5

and then look at the specs of this phone

http://www.finestmobile.com/wp7-rom-outs-1-3ghz-snapdragon-wielding-htc-mondrian.html

it looks like our processor actually will run at 1.3. Now the overclock part seems believable but how in hell is he flashing kernels. I am going to wait and see what comes of this guy.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pingels:
Hate to doubt the power of the snapdragon, but the snapdragon in the htc mondrian (qsd8650A) has 45nm architecture, while our older generation snapdragon (qsd8650) has 65nm architecture. Yes, OC'ing to 1.3G may be possible, but it'll eat more battery and create more heat than the newer (qsd8650A). I've already seen a qualcomm chip (it's a scorpian) with specs of 1.5G dual-core, so good things are coming : )

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Im starting to really hate this Jake guy, he sounds like he doesn't have a clue what hes talking about, and hes wasting everyone's time with misinformation. He's being arrogant without having actually done anything. Anyone can make a kernel, its not that hard, I'm as much of a Dev as him by those standards.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JaydenR:
True. He is a fake. Lets move on and let the real devs find root.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m1k3-:
I think I found a picture of him....

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] binny1007:
WTF guys just stop, all this crap has nothing to do with anthing, go be a troll somwere else.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] acidbath5546:
I agree please stop and let's be on topic
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrozzeh:
I don't think its possible to actually keep on topic here, so lets just cut down the whole acting like we're 5.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] acidbath5546:
Lol...point taken and I agree.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m1k3-:
I still thought my joke was funny.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kep0ne:
Angelina Jolie and Jonny Lee Miller didn't.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m1k3-:
Well then I guess we'll just have to wait until Zero Cool's friend on that ninebysix site mails him back with his magical root method. :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] moosc:
Has VZW done something to prevent root?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DeeBG:
Not that I am aware or (at least, not any more than they do on all their phones). HTC however, seems to have made some significant software AND hardware changes from what I can tell that make this whole business a pain in the ass. However when my phone comes in (now I am being told in ~2 weeks x.x), I will join the devs already working on it to make sure this phone doesn't become the "Playstation 3" of the Android world (I wish I knew more java tho, I am more about ASM, python and web-based languages).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tdavis42:
VZW isn't the sole person involved. HTC has been enhancing their security because the are trying to protect their Sense OS. That is why it is so easy to crack vanilla Android. Its free to use and download so why spend money/man hours to protect it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tizzleh:
Fuzzing?

I don't have one of these devices but my GF does, she refuses to let me f#@$ w/ it for any decent amount of time. Any possible exploit through fuzzing? Can any of you get to a command line? If you could we could try some shellcode to gain ring0. I tried with hers but couldn't get her device to load to my adb. I hear you may have to try a couple goldcards before you get a working one.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AndroidBruce:
Adb works fine here(linux). Just no root access of course. But all non root commands work just fine. As does ddms for logs and screens. No 'goldcard' needed
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrozzeh:
Nope. HTC is finally learning how to use more of the undocumented features of the msm.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrozzeh:
Lots of buzzwords in there but it doesn't really mean much.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tcberg2010:
So, my screen broke and i am going to be filing an insurance claim to get a new incredible. I know that will take a while, but if we do not have root by then does anyone think Paul would try and root the broken phone if i sent it to him? Everything functions great, you can see the display fine, just the glass is broken.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] krelvinaz:
He has already stated that he doesn't plan on touching it because he doesn't have CDMA service to use it. Also, the exploit he used on the desire won't work on the Incredible, so he would be at square one like everyone else if he did.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bilbobrian:
why don't you shoot him a pm, it can't hurt...:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RLKirk:
Doesn't an insurance claim require sending Verizon your phone so they can fix it and use it on other claims? Correct me if i'm wrong.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bilbobrian:
not if you've dropped it in a lake...:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 1wingangel:
:D:Dlol:D:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] borgey420:
damn i hate to be negative but there's just so many damn reg flags while trying to root this phone. it's really getting redic
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chumba8:
Root comming?

So supposedly that jake guy did root the Incredible i talked with him earlier in the week he is supposed to be working on getting it to the masses soon I have no idea what he did he wouldnt even tell me but it should be comming by tuesday Jake and the other Dev that is working on it went out of town for the weekend
[Droid Incredible Android Development] invisiblek:
Re: (W.I.P) HTC Incredible Root...Updated 05/26/2010

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] zeke1988:
does that mean this is the end? DI cant be rooted?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] binny1007:
No nothing is impossible, it just takes time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] b16a2smith:
Are you serious? You really have to talk to people like that? A matter of fact, please fill me in on what credentials you have. what have you done for the community? Why would you say that on a huge forum like this? Is this place even moderated? That is a failure of the ability to have any kind of social skill. Hey binny, acidbath, and any other developer who is busting their ass trying to please a crowd of people like this invisiblek guy, this is a lack of intelligence at it's finest. When this is all said and done, (which is still in progress) I am sure that everyone will be happy and the guy who gets it done (anybody) is going to get lost in the news anyways. How can you call yourself a part of any community when you talk to users like that? How old are you? Eleventeen? I bet. And on behalf of the entire android community, I apologize for people like this, who instead can't seem to separate fact and opinion or rage of the mere fact they have nothing more to contribute than World of Warcraft cheats, please, disregard comments like this. And from me to the devs busting their behinds, thank you, I would never expect you guys to treat a user like this.

B16

Invisiblek don't bother responding, which if you choose to, choose your words wisely, for it is going to make you look like more of an immature pompous ass.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ryanmo5:
Rule #2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.

There is no need to speak to anyone on xda like that, let this be a warning to you to clean up the foul language and respect other members of this site
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bilbobrian:
If this is how the android community treats the devs that are working thier asses off for the community, I may just go back to winmo. At least most of the people over there have respect and appreciation for the guys that give them the tools to make their device as custom as they want. Yeah winmo sucks compared to android but at least there is a camaraderie between everyone....I know it's not everyone on the android side, but it's really obvious who is a **** and who isn't. How about a little patience and respect kids...:mad:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
B16, I dont post much on this thread becuase I dont have anything to contribute to Incredible Root development, I dont want to bother the real devs working on root, I know they have better things to do. And so I ask you, Do you have anything to contribute??? This isnt the place for the conversation you are trying to have.

I would appreciate it if you respected the XDA forum rules and did not post offtopic/spam for another site.

This is not a place for you to grandstand. This is a place for development. Im done.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ryanmo5:
This stops right now, bans will be issued for whoever continues this childish conversation. This is a developer site and the flaming/breaking forum rules is not tolerated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] acidbath5546:
Thanks for the Moderation Ryan.

Let's all be respectful to another, despite if our opinions differ.

Cheers!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bilbobrian:
Has anyone been in contact with shadowmite? He is working on it also and thought a little more collaboration might help.

http://www.shadowmite.com/blog/?p=370

BTW...thanks Ryan :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] smokeynerd:
Lets say someone gets root through an unconventional means not performable by the masses like directly reading/editing the NAND, could it open the doors to a mass produceable expolit? for instance being able to learn more about defeating the partition lock or signature verification.

If this is off-topic for this section please delete or remove, Id like to make at least 10 posts before getting flamed to death. ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mixpix405:
The plot thickens! Jake Day posts on XDA: "We have root!"
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ryanmo5:
That's all I ask as well, sorry your thread got hijacked.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] b16a2smith:
Well its done guys. We have rooted it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] acidbath5546:
Lol...no worries...I am gonna complain to Flar though....out wait....damn ;) jk
[Droid Incredible Android Development] smokeynerd:
I can say I wholeheartedly agree with what you say, I have been in / out of various "scenes" since the BBS days for those who actually know what a BBS and a 2400 bps terminal session looks like :P and I have never seen a larger collection of dushbag a$$holes than I have seen here. While many are great a select few should use their phone like a bar of soap to silence themselves
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tdavis42:
I totally agree but you have to remember that Android is pointed at a younger audience. It really is hard not to say anything to some of these creeps but if you do you get sucked into the BS. It is always guilty until proven innocent if you are the unknown. This could have been handled differently by not saying anything until video proof and instructions were provided but the guy needed a phone so he put it out there. Either way this goes it is never called for to degrade a persons dignity. If someone lies to you do you follow them around and scream at them or just walk away? The hatred is mind boggling to me, I can't seem to put myself in their shoes and I am usually pretty good at seeing either side even if one is totally f'ed up. I am just patiently waiting for instructions and a Froyo rom.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] acidbath5546:
Will a Moderator please close this thread...I think that the flaming and rudeness and general behavior has gone so far downhill that I no longer want my name or to be associated with it.

The treatment of the hard working Devs is ridiculous, and I do not want any part of it.

Also I can't tell whether people have root or are posting PhotoShop Pics, I can't keep up with it all and don't want to be made out to be a liar.

Good luck all.

Cheers!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tranquiloloco:
So...this has been disproved? Saw Acid's post on another forum: hoax? Bummer :/
[Droid Incredible Android Development] acidbath5546:
05/31/10

Root being achieved was a Hoax, I can't tell who or what is true lately, sorry for prematurely reporting, things have gotten out of control in the android community.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heavensblade23:
What proof do you have it's a hoax acid?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jcase:
Premature reporting, sounds familiar, like the eris in February
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drewlamo1:
well if it is a hoax , boostdscoob wrote on alldroid how upset he is on how much flaming was going on.

nothing is making sense, how do you open a thread on alldroid saying you have root, write a paragraph on how it only took jake 3days to root the thing, damn all the flamers for all the bashing, and now its all a hoax?

i digress.....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SoCalMiles:
Community wasn't out of control before someone reported they overclocked an Incredible. I hope this isn't a hoax cause there are gonna be a lot of pi$$ed of people. Now, we the community are being blamed....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dvdivx:
Worst case is it's a hoax. I'm sure it'll get rooted eventually. Some are going to wait until Verizon has more stock incase you brick the phone. I'm just curious if you have root if you can see the partitions on the NAND. Also seeing what's in the data folder. Just posting pics is going to prove nothing. Usually you just PM people who have been here a while the files to test them out.

I do think the ban hammer needs to come out against some who are just here to insult.

I am looking forward to a bootloader myself. Can't wait to boot the incredible with either meego (if they have developed the ARM version enough) or debian.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] acidbath5546:
Lmao...I thought u quit the communities for like the 10th time :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Irishpride:
What is going on here? I've never been so confused...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] invisiblek:
Re: HTC Incredible has been rooted...Updated 06/01/2010

just wait until tonight. jake will explain on his website
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heavensblade23:
You and me both.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonnybueno:
Hey Acid, you should update the title of your thread until we definitively have root.

That way anyone who missed out on this mornings events isnt confused.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heavensblade23:
And this, exactly this, is why I didn't donate, preferring instead to wait until instructions were posted before even considering it!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonnybueno:
I never implied that you should donate, only that you have a sense of false entitlement. In the long run, your skepticism was well warranted, but regardless, no one owes you nor the community anything.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Irishpride:
That proved to be pretty damn smart. I was all for giving these people the benefit of the doubt, but I'm actually a little pissed now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] acidbath5546:
Me too...I am sick of it...and now it makes me look like I helped perpetuate a lie and a hoax.

I love this community but there are so many people that only want glory or to put others down it is crazy.

I updated the first post and asked moderators to close and lock the thread.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chris61292:
Ugh what a mess...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 87jason:
What if you guys set up a dev site liie what was done on the Eris that way only certain people can post but make it veiwable to the public just not were anyone can post on it unless they are allowed and then you dont have all the flamming getting posted on the thread all the time I onow it helped a lot on there Eris.

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Sent via the XDA Tapatalk App
[Droid Incredible Android Development] boostdscoob:
if anyone believes that myself, Jake, or acidbath had anything to do with the lie and deceit from today, that would be an incorrect assumption. acidbath has simply asked to help, i have nothing to do with the incredible at all, yet, and Jake is still working on it.

the person who did this, or people, went to a great length to make this look real, only to try to later prove some point. exactly what, who knows, but this should be something the community can ignore, and move on from.

the skeptics, will always be skeptics. we appreciate the way you guys are handling this, as we would never falsely admit to something, and believe me, when it is done, it will be for all to share.

i hope the community can maybe become a little less mean, and more supportive, and understand the difference between outlandish claims, and not read too much into every single piece of android news.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heavensblade23:
I'm willing to admit many people put words into Jake's mouth in various places online.

He never claimed he had root, it was always his friend that was the basis for everything he was claiming.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrjinglesusa:
Which is why one shouldn't post anything unless they have verified it themselves. Jake claimed the Incredible had been over clocked and was running smoothly. That means the Incredible had been rooted. That he didn't independently verify this before posting is what started this whole mess.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] boostdscoob:
incorrect, Jake's friend claimed that it was running smoothly, the reason Jake wanted the phone, to test it himself before releasing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m1k3-:
How could he have been testing these kernels without root? I've had two android phones (magic and n1) the first thing I did when I got both of them was unlocked the bootloader on each one, so my knowledge of what you can and can't do with a locked bootloader is limited. I know you can fastboot kernels with an unlocked bootloader, but I always assumed that wouldn't be possible without it being unlocked.

Either way, if these guys had just been more communicative about the status of their work, this could've been avoided.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heavensblade23:
He didn't test them, his friend did, the same friend that claimed he rooted his phone based on Jake's instructions. By implication he also claimed to have broken the NAND protection if he was able to install a custom kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrjinglesusa:
BUT JAKE POSTED THE INFO ON HIS SITE.

It doesn't matter if it was his friend claiming it. No one would have ever known of the friend's claim if Jake hadn't posted it on his site.

Say what you want, but Jake posting that on his site is what started this whole mess. Period.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] boostdscoob:
so you dont want developers to do anything anymore? is that what your saying?

because we can stop. i bet if he comes out with root, you'll use it.

stop trying to rationalize it. its his blog. he can post he found a unicorn for all it concerns anyone else.

its not your site, stop crying.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrjinglesusa:
Yes, it's his blog. Yes, he can post what he wants. But when he posts something as factual that turns out to be untrue, well, you've seen what happened....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m1k3-:
........+1
[Droid Incredible Android Development] boostdscoob:
please show me where these "factual" claims are?

exactly, you cant find them. theres nothing on that blog that says anything set in stone.

that is why he wanted the phone. to verify. learn to read, and not assume and make speculations based on words, or lack thereof.

stop trying to critique everything with a fine tooth comb, and step back, re read it and see it for what the post actually has to do with.

you act like your seeing a different perspective, and you are. you arent the original poster, so you cant make any calls on what he actually meant by anything said. stop crying about it, its a dead beaten horse. your showing why this community has problems. again nothing is owed to you, please stop acting like anyone owes you an explanation.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrjinglesusa:
Here's what he posted. You're telling me the bolded isn't a factual claim?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] boostdscoob:
you need to put that into the proper context, and yes, that doesnt say he rooted the phone.

i have better things to do with my time than nitpick someone else's words. cry all you want. its still being worked on, so i dont know what you hope to achieve.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrjinglesusa:
Can an Incredible run an over clocked kernel without root? The answer is NO, it can't. So, posting that an Incredible boots and runs an over clocked kernel directly and unambiguously implies the Incredible is rooted.

I agree it's better you give up trying to defend this blog post. None of this mess would have transpired if that blog post was never made. That's a FACT.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tats_06:
Wow I can't believe how much lies Jake and others gotten into!!!! Jake said he had root, said he had overclock kernels and said to donate if someone wanted them right away. I am very disappointed in this situation and my trust has really crushed in people that I believed and valued their information. Sorry, but that is not how things should have been handled. You either have root or you don't. If you do, there is no reason to hold it away from everyone for days. I am speechless. I represent a site as well and unfortunately was one who believed certain people. Now, the reputation has gone down to dirt nothing. :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drewlamo1:
acidbath person left this comment in the androidforum wip thread

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All my conversations were with jake@ninebysix.com on GTalk and with bootbscoob.

This morning after seeing the picture, I then messaged Jake there and asked him if I could see the method and verify it and if this was his pic.

Jake replied that he did in fact have root and that he would be posting it on his blog tonite.

I verified James GTalk address with bootbscoob and he said that its was the real jake.

So I am lost and confused and feel used and lied too.

//

this one particular comment is what is messing with me.

boost did acid make this up? whatever your answer is im not implying anything i just would like some personal verification for myself lol.

i know acid never answers that jake posted the pic but he is saying jake said he had root and would post it tonight.

so either jake is lying or acid? the means of communication in this comment seem to be verified that acid is indeed talking to the real jake?

like i said this one comment by acid is messing with me