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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MooGoo:
Wait...your phone froze while you were talking to the CEO of this company, and you couldn't call him back for TWO DAYS???

Ever hear of using another phone? Or a land line?

And I'm not sure what your problem with voice messages was. If you left them messages and they did not receive them, it's their voicemail systems fault, not WinMo's.

If WinMo did not notify you of voice messages that you had waiting, then simply call your voicemail number regardless of whether your phone says you have any or not. You could even call it from a different phone. Not doing so, especially when you are expecting important calls, is simply negligent. Every phone I have ever owned, long before I started to use WinMo, has failed to notify me of voice messages on numerous occasions.

This is as basic as keeping a backup copy of whatever important paper or project you are working on. It should be done with ALL phones, even the infallible iPhone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
I bet I could make an iPhone fail :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Aaron McCarthy:
Totally agree with moogoo here. The voicemail issue isn't really a hardware issue as much as it is YOU not checking your voicemail or them having issues with there voicemail. Not calling the CEO back right away AFTER you reset your phone... I just couldnt imagine the phone freezing on me and not reseting it and calling the person back right away.

You havn't said whether you are running a stock rom or a custom rom on your phone. If it's stock and you are having these issues I would probably go to where you bought the phone and just have them give you a new one as I've never heard of people having that many issues with their phone. If its a custom rom, the only time I hear of people having the issues you are having is because after flashing their phone they didnt do a hard reset after the initial boot up to make sure everything installs properly. 9 times out of 10 if your phone freezes as much as it does you probably just need to do a hard reset.

Now, the comment about it locking up and what not... if it does it every few days, well guess what. It's a freaking computer! :p I don't know about you but I dont leave my PC or laptop running for days at a time and expect it to be running as fast as it should. I usually turn those off every night or when I'm not using them. Now we cant just go ahead and turn our phones off at night that doesnt make sense BUT you can at least do a soft reset every now and again and it should speed things up. I know myself I do this at least every 2 days. Again... if it's being as glitchy as it is odds are you just need a hard reset. Try running one of NRG's roms as they seem to be the best out there, at least from the ones I've tried.

So moral of your story.... you need to hard reset your phone once if not twice after you install a new rom..... you need to check your voicemail even when it doesnt show you have missed calls.... you need to call people back immediatly after your phone crashes... dont just put the phone down and hope that it starts working again. They have the reset button on their for a reason! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SlimJ87D:
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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SlimJ87D:
Hey guys, sorry for the late response.

Well this is what happen. The CEO called me to talk to me about the job but at this very time my phone was frozen and hiccuping without my knowledge. When it does this it just rejects all my calls, but for some reason I never got the missed call or anything. It didn't even show up on screen. My phone randomly hiccups and when it does this everything is ignored, I won't get a missed call, it's like my phone is off. I didn't even get a voice mail message. When I checked my voicemail because one of my friends left me one after I ignored his call it finally gave me a message and it said I had 2 missed voicemails. I thought it was strange that he left 2 voice mails even though I only had his only miss call.. and then I realized he didn't leave 2 voice mails. I heard the voice of the CEO, he said for me to try and call him back. I checked the receipt and it was 2 days late! I called back right away.

I left him a voice mail back, but he left on a business trip and had to select someone else... which happen to be my classmate :(

And yes, it hiccups all the time. A large part of it is due to the amount of text I receive but not all the time. Under my GFs name we have about 1000s of text saved up and it causes the phone to lag sometimes.

Other lags and hiccups happen randomly when I'm trying to do simple things.

I know you guys are probably angry because I'm talking smack about our phones but please, I really wasn't expecting these kinds of problems with my phones. I'm not some kind of iPhone user disguised to troll.

Some of you guys don't' get the problem, yes you guys are lucky. Maybe have different models. But some of us here do.

Don't be quick to judge me so harshly. I'm only a guy here trying to set a realistic complaint because Windows Mobile should release updates more often, we deserve it, and you guys know we deserve it. By not complaining and pretending these problems don't exist gives Windows a right to not want to optimize their OS.

Thanks Lennzy for PMing me possible solutions to fixing my phone and not trying to give me some kind of life advice where you don't even know what happen.

The way the market is going right now, I just don't want to go through this again... it's such a bad experience... maybe it's fate, maybe I wasn't meant for the job and some other better company will call me. But for the time being I need to fix this phone or get a basic phone to just receive and give calls.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lennyz1988:
You got two new pm's ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MooGoo:
It's still prudent to check your voicemail at least once a day regardless of phone notifications. One good failsafe, if you can manage it, is to set things up so you automatically receive emails informing you of new voicemail (this is setup for me through Exchange at work, but I'm sure there are other ways).

As previously mentioned, the problems you are having are far from normal. I'm running a cooked ROM with all kinds of incredible hacks and tweaks, so much so that I'd expect the thing to break more often, but it is just as stable and usable as ever.

Not trying to give you life lessons, just pointing out one that you surely already learned.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sirphunkee:
Slim, are you in the US? If so, at least a temporary solution might be to use Google voice...it'll take over your voicemail functions, and can notify you via e-mail whenever you get a VM, and it'll even send you a transcript and a downloadable audio file of the message
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Try Linux - my home server's been up for 3 months without issue and my misses laptop's often on for weeks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MooGoo:
Honestly ever since XP I've had no problem leaving my Windows box running for long periods of time.

Most often the only reason it needs to be reset is because of some update.

Linux is not infallible in this matter. While the core OS is extremely stable, very often the window manager, especially Gnome and KDE can be very buggy and prone to crashing.

Of course it is easy enough to drop out of Xwindows and restart it without restarting the entire OS.
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
has anyone found an easy way to remove the limit?

there are instructions here, i tried, but no luck:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=626771&highlight=sms+limit

thought i'd give it a go with my hero buddies :)

let me know if you can help!

thx
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Is this a proven limit on the Hero?

Stupidest thing I have ever heard.
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
it isn't so much as an actual limit...

it is a message that comes up letting you know that a large amount of SMS messages are being sent

so after an hour, it makes you hit "ok" to send for every text

it is built into android i believe not just the hero

it is really annoying

especially when using an SMS bomber (don't judge me!) :D
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
This is why it was implemented......
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Judge not, that ye be not judged - Matthew 7:1

I'm installing the SDK on my new machine so I can look at this. Let you know what I find in a few.
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
This is from the thread you posted up top.. but i brought it here...

type

adb shell

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

then sqite3 and so on from the instructions above.

I dont know if it will work. But it will help with the permission denied part.. If any one wants to comfirm if it works or not. Im not sending 100 text in an hour.
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
maybe. or just to keep people who don't have unlimited text out of financial trouble...
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
i got "operation not permitted"
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
on what line?
[Hero CDMA General] thatjerk:
Wait... we can figure this out.... but we can't change or remove the size limit for multimedia messaging... fantastic.
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

gave me that error
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
uh it should work if you type "adb shell" before typing it. Are you rooted? and I just copied the line directly from what i posted and it goes perfectly to the next line.
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
nvm

shouldn't have had a space before /system is all

but i still get permission denied at the next command
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
You should have a space. Its why you still get permission denied. Lol

type this

adb remount

adb shell

and then the rest of the instructions
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
yes i am rooted

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]

Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

D:\Users\Erik>cd D:\android-sdk-windows\tools

D:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb devices

List of devices attached

HT9CPHF05531 device

D:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb shell

$ mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /def/block/mtdblock3 /system

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /def/block/mtdblock3 /system

mount: Operation not permitted

$ mount -o rw, remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3/system

mount -o rw, remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3/system

Usage: mount [-r] [-w] [-o options] [-t type] device directory

$ sqlite3 /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db

sqlite3 /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db

sqlite3: permission denied

$ sqlite3

sqlite3

sqlite3: permission denied

$
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
thx for your patience, i am more of a graphics guy... trying my best.

didn't mount with the space

:/

attached the log above
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
I didn't have to remount. just adb shell

then sqllite3 blah blah blah

Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
You're seeing a $ when you should be seeing a #. (# denotes root/superuser).

After you type adb shell, type this:

$ su (and then hit enter)

Your $ should change to:

#

Then do the rest of the commands above.
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
What he said type

adb shell

su

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

then the rest of the instructions..
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
okay i did that

but...

now i get

"sqlite3: not found"

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] marios20v:
hello...

i have a HD2 and i make update one rom and now my device stay on start htc...

please help...

how to i make restore????
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Rapa_:
explain better your problem..

and i'm sure you can solve it searching....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
You need to flash a compatible radio. Which rom did you flash, what radio version do you have?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] marios20v:
after the original rom i make update in one rom for feu days and today i put ather rom... after to finish the update the phone make restar bu default and my phone now stay only in start htc
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
As I aske din my previous post which rom did you flash now and what radio version do you have. Read the thread for the rom you are using and you will find that you 99.99999% have the wrong radio installed and that is why the phone is getting stuck.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] marios20v:
the rom is netDrg 2.5h HD2 but i rom version???
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] marios20v:
how do make restore or how do install my previous rom???
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
And as the thread for that rom states - "Recommended Radio 2.08.50.08_2 for Active 576 Mb of Ram"

You can switch off phone then hold volume down and switch on. It will boot into bootlaoder and you can then flash the rom you want to. But before you do that why not try the correct radio for the rom you now have. The only problem is the radio version. You'll find the radio in the stickies and you can flash it like you flashed your rom and all will be ok.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djchubbs:
:Di swear you stalk these forums waiting for these exact posts clyde :-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] marios20v:
thanks for your help

but my phone now in not connect with pc...how to i make changes?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
No need, in the bootloader (multi coloured screen) as long as usb shows at the bottom you can flash.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
:D :D :D LOL.

I've been busy for the past few days so haven't been online much, but sad to say not much has changed, it's still the same old question over and over and over and over.......... :rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] marios20v:
i make restart and show white backround with htc logo only
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Did you flash the new radio as I have now said a few times? Dude if you want help you need to start doing what you get advised to do.

What have you tried so far if anything?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] marios20v:
now i make download the radio version 2.10.50.08_2 for the rom versio Axlor Leo v. 10 WWE
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Ok, switch phone off, then hold in volume down button and while holding switch the phone on. It will boot into a multi coloured screen (bootloader) - plug usb cable in and when "USB" shows on the phone screen flash the radio and then your rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] marios20v:
is ok now thanks very much for your help...thanks...thanks...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
:D - Pleasure.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djchubbs:
the bills in the post.:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
And so is the cheque probably :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] CompuNerd©:
As per the title, what's the killer app(s) you recommend for Leo please?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MalekoUK:
Would a Mod class as an App? If so, Co0kies home tab!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] anja31:
coOkies - and now the thread can be closed :) best app ever
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dio62000:
- Sprite Backup (the most important app!)

- Cookie's Home Tab

- BsB Tweaks (even though I don't use it :D)

- WiFi toggle cab

- Bluetooth toggle cab

- CorePlayer

- any registry editor

- SkyFire browser

- PhoneAlarm 2.32

These are the must-haves to start with IMO.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] CompuNerd©:
Thanks for the input folks, i have to say co0kie's really is the business, even though it's an interface mod as opposed to an app, and i just love it, but my question relates strictly to 'apps'

Appreciate everyone's taste and opinion on what they class as a killer app...

I'll be checking out the ones i've not tried ;)

Thanks

hmmmmm.... yeh ok m8 :rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MalekoUK:
Ok, strickly apps...

BsB Tweaks

Opera Mobile 10

Resco File Explorer

G-Alarm
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] xavierdemon:
Fpsece, I just can't stop playing Street Fighter EX2 :). Other suggestions:

co0kie's mod

Swype with Lesscro skin

iGo8

G-profile

In fact there are loads of things on my HD2 which I think are killer and as a bonus it makes and receives phone calls, yes phone calls how amazing is that lol.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Ryukeima:
Fpsece 0.10 (supporter version for maximum impressiveness)

Crayon Physics

Pocket Sand (dont like to use on HD2 as much as I did on HD, stylus owns)

Opera 10

Resco Suite
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Ryukeima:
Oh yea, and Swype. Funny because I thought it was a stupid concept at first, but after using it, I can't use anything else haha.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Dic3ptor:
The best app on my Device is that i can Phone with it :D

No, Cookie´s is the best! ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Gilbertinho:
Netflix

If you have a netflix account i would say that Netflix Mobile is a great app to manage your Q and it even lets you see previews of the movies right on the phone
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] gnash.s:
LMT - Gesture Launcher - best app for task switching and various other functions

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=629263

S2U2 & S2P

APMobile

Resco Photo Manager (paid)

SPB Time (paid)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Rurph:
I second LMT Launcher and add GarishKernels Egress 4.1 (RSS reader)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mpicart:
FpseCE best app ever!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] smeddy:
It does bug me that most of the killer apps people mention are tweaks and mods over useful/fun apps, still...

s2p player as a music player

G-Remote as a remote control for my Media Server TV

CorePlayer (altho a similar app really should have come included)

AlReader - ebook reader
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] chris_ah1:
HD2tweak

Chainfire 3d patch ;)

Freda

S2U2+s2p

tcpmp

Cookies

garmin/igo/copilot/tomtom/navigon all great on hd2, just pick your one.

oh yeah -phone.exe and htc_messaging with exchange support :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] matmaneyre:
Reading this has actually made me realise I don't actually have many apps at all!

But the ones I use most and couldn't live without are...

TomTom Navigator 7

Skyfire (with tvcatchup.com bookmarked for Freeview on the go! (I'm sure O2 will be telling me to moderate my data usage soon!))

UK Live Rail Departures (for my job!)

Nanogroove/Scilor's GrooveMobile

YouTube (even though it's built in...use it all the time!)

WebVideoDownloader (WVD)

WinMobile Torrent

And that built in "cprog.exe" process is quite good because it enables you to make calls on it as well....I know, shocking! But try it, it works. Press the send key and a keypad comes up with the numbers of all you friends and you can speak to them with it. But don't go telling everyone. It's a big secret.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] BillTheCat:
Here are my must-haves that have been with me since my HP PDA:

eWallet

TomTom

ListPro

PhatNotes

1Calc

I'm not counting utilities like PocketMechanic and others. Necessary though they may be, I figured you were talking about productivity, not maintenance.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Prockkaii:
I'd opened a similar thread, but most of the wm apps is for customizing the phone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] CompuNerd©:
Thanks for the replies guys, keep 'em coming please... all welcome :D

Some of these i'm aware of but i haven't tried many at all yet. I'd much rather get decent experienced opinions first instead of whacking allsorts on my HD2, only to uninstall later...

I see no-one has mentioned MSS Converter, which I myself class as a killer. The amount of conversions this app can do is just excellent. A must have AFAIC

Thanks again ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] xavierdemon:
uConvert is much nicer :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] CompuNerd©:
Cheers, i'll be giving that a look then ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ralpheboyo:
these are my sndard install apps:

AvianWaves Battline v2

3d drive (chainfire)

chess genius

cookie

clean ram

mskip bluetooth

resco photo

pocket informant

win rar

resco explore

sktools

xthack

igo

pocket shield
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] appelflap:
any softreset app ;)

phatnotes (i have this app since my first windows ce 1.0 device)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] darryl22:
lookout mobile security

backup/restore/tracking/alarm and nuke the data on the phone if stolen all in one
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Noonz:
Are those apps listed above in the market or in this forum some where?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] skilty:
mine are...

my player (live tv is great if youre in the uk)

skyfire (flash sites;)

coreplayer (not free but v.good, tcpmp free version)

fpsece (unbelievably good)

nanogroove

sky mobile

xda shutdown

cleanram

co-pilot or igo8

:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] gnash.s:
Yes, uConvert is nice, but "1Calc" is much faster even though it doesn't look as nice as uConvert.

Resco Explorer (a must have app) - I cannot believe how many hours I might have spent scrolling back n forth using the default File Explorer, better than Total Commander too.

Resco PhotoManager too - very nice and fast photo editing tool.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jonny68:
Great thread this nice one :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] BillTheCat:
Or you can buy the expansion pack to get the desktop version of 1Calc and a boatload of skins. I like the HP12c Platinum one myself.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ReVolut1on:
Iconsoft Phonex is something that makes the HD2 a REAL phone :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] maznaz:
Iconsoft Phonex

Iconsoft Phonex

+1
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] webpatrick:
I'm happy to tell you I didn't find an App that killed somebody...

HTC Dialer is my number one App.

Other great apps/mods are:

- gAlarm

- Co0kie's HomeTab

- CHTEditor

- RSS Hub

- iGO8
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Xerocus:
Apps

Hi,

Yup, i completly agree with Co0kie's(handiest thing i've ever used on winmo)

I see alot of apps but no idea what most of them are all about, so i'll add some more detail for the newbies(myself included):D

here goes:

Co0kie's HomeTab - for homescreen mods ...etc...

BsB tweak - Handy tweaks, enabling hidden features, rotation and pinch-zoom functionality to applications that would otherwise not have those functions in it's native install

Red Frogfish DataController - Handy to manage individual data connections

Pigeon! - Gtalk etc....

GPS spot tracker - I like to go mountain climbing, nicly illustrates elevation etc..

Garmin\TomTom - navigation

Pocket RAR - Archiving\compressing\unzip ...........

NetRipper TorchButton - Look, a $1200 flashlight!!!

Touch X Taskmanager - Thank you to whom ever created\ported\adapted this TM for the HD2

I'll keep em coming as i discover\download them

;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mb:
Mod to get 3G button on Comm Manager

Total Commander

Opera Mini 5 (Native WM version)

eWallet

TomTom

UK Rail App

MagiCall

Google Maps

Kaldma's Stopwatch

SlingMedia SlingPlayer

Fring

MS Voice Commander (finally working on my HD2)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Igr1:
And what about a DataController?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hhhawasly:
-LMT is really fantastic program

Specially with TaskFacade as a task manager :)

-Resco file explorer and registry editor

-TCPMP
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] piztol44pete:
TT Navigator 7

Opera Mini 5

Google Translator

Open WebRadio

Quick Menu

Slacker Radio

and last but the funnest Chuck Norris Facts