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[Desire General] Whiterin:
I have found the battery life to be very good on the Desire...unless I turn on eBuddy. eBuddy kills the battery at a pretty extreme rate. It's like 10% per hour ASLEEP. When I am actually doing something it's a % every few minutes with it running in the background. With it turned off, the phone will only go through a few% in 8-10 hours as opposed to 10% or more an hour.
[Desire General] andycted:
Those suggestions are all ok, however the tip about always connected not impacting background services is wrong.

If you disable Always-on data you won't get google email push notifications and other stuff. You can get the impression that you're still getting them because the connection won't close immediately after you used it, so maybe for the next 15 minutes you are connected, but if you leave the phone into sleep you won't get any unless something else opens a connection. This is exactly the same as any other push data connection in WinMo or other handset.

Also the pointer about turning off bluetooth is right, but BT is already optimized for battery usage and leaving it on without any connection running isn't that bad as a battery drainer. Still better to turn it off.

One more tip is turning airplane mode on when staying long enough in a spot with very poor reception
[Desire General] zaki67:
I have to say that if I would have to turn almost everything off to make the phone last long then maybee it is better to buy a phone that has a good battery life and does not have all those features since i will be turning them all of anyways.

i am an iphone 3gs user and I use my device heavily that I have to charge it by noon,i have ordered an HTC desire ....would i have the same problem?.i am not planning on giving up push e mail or IM
[Desire General] jauhari:
I think we should find the best way to make or choose a more powerfull battery on HTC Desire without disable some featured. If we decide to disable some featured, what for we decide to buy Smartphone such as HTC Desire?
[Desire General] dimkav:
i want to ask,when we finally update our htc desire to the new froyo 2.2,will we see some difference to the life of battery?does froyo makes better perfomance to battery?
[Desire General] gleepface:
Has anybody had problems with the battery all of a sudden and the dialer showing really high network use?

Mine suddenly started eating up battery, after being really good for months, it would go down by like 2% a minute, and I wasn't using it any differently.

So I have switched to gsm only mode and it is a bit better, but still not quite as good as I am used to, no idea what is going on with that...
[Desire General] dnlgee:
I've disabled the 3G+ data connection as im constantly in and around WiFi AP's, helped a lot for my battery's life.
[Desire General] madman_cro:
and use some task manager
[Desire General] gleepface:
Doesn't really explain why it went from being totally fine to utter rubbish overnight though :(
[Desire General] MasDroid:
Here's a few things to try out in order to improve battery life... most will already be common knowledge to some:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=666192
[Desire General] cgrec92:
thanks for the link its very informative

i think this is pretty much all we can do to save power

i think there's a line to cross between battery power and usability

it's just not nice being so o.c.d with a phone
[Desire General] MasDroid:
I agree with what you say... we should not have to go to these lengths to improve battery life span.

Another thing that can make a difference is flashing a different radio version. Some radio versions are known to provide better overall battery life.
[Desire General] andycted:
battery tips

Collected some tips in different threads. In order of importance/feature-loss, in my experience:

- use SetCpu, set ondemand and use these profiles: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6971040&postcount=3960

- don't use live wallpapers

- use a dark/black background

- manually disable data connection when you are not using it

- enter airplane mode when staying long enough in an area with no reception

- (at least for me) flash radio v32.30

- disable roaming if you can

- disable wireless location if you can

- don't use battery widgets/plotters/enhancers/applications

- don't use auto-killer. Kill single processes only when you need to

- disable auto-sync if you don't check stuff very often. Or rather pick "manual update" on stuff you don't need automatically synchronized

- disable always-on data connection. Although you can miss some stuff (push email)

- disable auto-brightness and use a widget to change it accordingly

- don't keep your phone in your hand and play with it all the time, as you are bound to do the first weeks after you bought it.

- buy a second battery and a cradle with a place to recharge it

with a single battery I get 2.5 days of light use, 2 days of normal use, 1 day with heavy use.
[Desire General] ArtieQ:
I don't wanna root my device, is SetCPU really needed?
[Desire General] OnlinePredator:
Just giving my input, while set to roaming and with moderate use with WiFi on all the time, it lasted 2-3 days. Now due to circumstances I use 3g which now only just gives me a day. I have tried only enabling wcdma when I need it, and this along with reducing the amount of data refreshed has given me a day and a half.

WiFi uses so much less battery!
[Desire General] andycted:
Good to know, since my network is 3g only, would you think that enabling wifi for data would improve battery life ? I've read somewhere that it's the standby on 3g that kills the battery compared to 2g.
[Desire General] hensk:
if you dont use wifi,utms,gmaps,mail than buy hokia 6100 & will have battery for 5 day
[Desire General] andycted:
The point is that not everyone needs everything on and on auto all the time. It's like phones from years ago had bluetooth on by default, and only after a while people realized they would rather keep it off most of the time to save battery. Hell, most people still don't even know that.

It's just a list of things that can save you battery if you don't need them permanently on, or to help people desperate for some more battery time. I keep most stuff permanently on.
[Desire General] kurda08:
I made these single color backgrounds/wallpaper, I get some extra hours. try it I give feedback.
[Desire General] A|ex:
If you have 3g enabled and everything pulling every few hours the battery on your phone will die within two days. If you space out the update checks etc you can get 3-4days life.

I am not sure how the person has a battery drain of 10% with ebuddy as i have mine connected all the time and i see as little as 2% drain. On my ebuddy i have msn, icq, facebook and yahoo. You must not have it configured to run in battery saving mode.

If you want the best battery life on your phone turn off auto sync when you are not using it, wallpapers, screen brightness etc will save you an hour or so max. Your not likely going to see any major saving as the biggest drain is the app polling when your phone is in standby or general use.
[Desire General] ShugM:
It's definately 3g data that eats my battery.

I've just been away for 4 days at a festival, I forced the phone to 2g mode only, and I got 3 days use with 40% battery left.

On the last day I put 3g on and checked the news etc, and my battery was dead in 40 minutes.
[Desire General] chasepack:
i too have no idea how you guys can get 2 full day and some even claims up to 3-4days of usage on a full charge...

been using my desire for 3weeks now and i can barely get 1.5days out of it...

-- network pretty much permanently on 2G network...

-- Data is off unless i manually turn it on to sync. off again later...

-- black background...

-- GPS off, wifi off...

-- Brightness ~25% fixed...

Battery Use shows nothing out of the ordinary... main power consumption on Cell standby, Android System and Phone idle.

am i missing something here?
[Desire General] Sparksltd:
I normally get a day with normal use on a full charge. I was having problems getting a full day charge so I did a full reset/data clear and it was a lot better. I think it was to do with some of the apps I installed. I can now get 2-3 days if I need to by switching to 2g only and sync on every 12 hours.
[Desire General] lordjester:
Yes we all agree the battery could be better, but I've found sort of a solution... on eBay you can buy a mini power pack (fits on ya key ring) that's plugs straight into the usb that recharges ya phone giving a little extra boost until you can get home.. an extra 90 mins talk or 40 hrs standby.. only 6 quid inc p&p.. on testing it my phone went from 24 % back unto 44 %.. inside a hour.. not a prefect solution but beats having to carry a spare battery...

OkuDa
[Desire General] daesimps:
I've found that your location (and the quality of the signal) can have the biggest impact.

I take mine off charge at 06:00 and normally have about 86% left when I get home from work at 16:30. It's not uncommon for me to then only have around 30-40% left when at 22:00. If I'm at home all weekend then I can struggle to get a full day out of it, but if I'm working all weekend I can get it to go from Saturday morning right through the weekend before requiring a charge. There must be a "sweet spot" in the house, however, which doesn't hammer the battery as I'm still on 55% since taking off charge at 06:00 yesterday morning.

Using Juiceplotter I can see the shallow slope of the battery usage graph through the day, which then becomes a steeper slope as soon as I get home.

I use Juice defender and have it set to put on the data 2m every 1/2 hour and disable data between 22:00 and 06:00. I also use Timerific to turn off bluetooth and put into vibrate mode during this time, and then back to normal at 06:00.
[Desire General] MattC85:
Whereabouts on Ebay can you get these? What do you search for?
[Desire General] mancuk29:
I've got an extended battery from eBay (will did auction number out after) I now get a whole days use tinkering makes it phone slightly fatter but you also get new back cover £14,95
[Desire General] landwomble:
I'm using the latest radio and Neophyte ROM 1.3e. Battery life's awesome with wifi set to turn off after 15mins inactivity and always-on data unticked.
[Desire General] etismyname:
Pretty much same here

But i do have the juice defender and reduced the widgets, 2days is fairly ok if i dun txt much
[Desire General] BlackDragonBE:
I actually tested how much I could get out of it because I was going on a festival for 3 days so I did the following:

* HAVS undervolted kernel

* Disable data networks, wifi, bluetooth and gps

* Minimum brightness

* Black wallpaper

Each hour my battery decreased by about 0.85% with the screen off.

With the screen on and idle it used about 1%

While using normal apps it used about 1.75%.

I used the camera both in normal mode for about 15 pics, which decreased it by 2%

I also filmed about 5mins with camcorder, which used 3%

The phone lasted 80 hours or 3 days and a half.

I dare to say the Desire is a heavy battery drainer, but especially when using the network and/or camera.
[Desire General] siliconaddict:
Got my Desire three weeks ago and battery life has improved since then.

I get at least two full days currently with average use (phone, texting, some internet). GPS/WiFi/3G disabled by default and turned on/off with the On/Off Widget Pack when needed. Screen brightness at 25-50% indoors, 100% outdoors. No complaints here.

I usually use the phone untill there's some 10-20% battery charge left and then recharge.

I may have come across one strange issue though: it looks like when you charge the battery via your PC it is charging slower than on AC but is also discharging slower. Has anyone else noticed this too?
[HD2 General] roendi:
HTC repaired no HD2 where the water damage indicator is red. We have some HD2 checked in our company and all are red! The instruction to the repair center is, if that indicator is red, has the cell phone a water damage and it is not allowed to repaired the phone! Original indicator would be white with thin red stripes. On the battery is also a water damage indicator. White stripe! He would also be red but by us all Battery indicator are white!

Can someone start a poll so we can see how many of the HD2 are already red!
[HD2 General] Sentinel196:
Mine is white as white can be.
[HD2 General] roendi:
Now i see the same on my Handy. It is also white!

I aske the lady on the technical support how is the indicator located. At the side from the sd card! And it say yes to me. But now i see also on top the white indicator.
[HD2 General] jezash:
mine's white.
[HD2 General] s32bauer:
Think it must depend on the service centre. Mine was red, but had to send it off for repair as the touch screen was a bit unresponsive, and this has now been repaired and returned to me under the warranty!
[HD2 General] madbird:
hi, my hd2 is from november and the indicator is snowhite.

mad
[HD2 General] mermigas:
Mine is also White :)
[HD2 General] elyl:
I tried to reset my first HD2 with a pen, and got that little thing mixed up with the reset button, so stuck a biro through it.

Thankfully I got that one replaced as it wasn't picking up SIMs.

It's white on my new one ;)
[HD2 General] conantroutman:
Please excuse my ignorance but what exactly is that thing?

And why am I the only person with a black one :confused:

Just curious....
[HD2 General] 11calcal:
if its black you should get to a doc ;)

only jest. mines white :cool:
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
mine's black too

that's how it comes back when you send it off for repair, atleast in my case
[HD2 General] madbird:
mine comes with tow stickers, in the upper left a white one for water detection, and in the lower right a black one to protect it against unscreewing. on the black one a tiny 'void' is written.

mad
[HD2 General] Gschrei:
Mine is white.
[HD2 General] elyl:
Wonder if they use the same material as Apple does:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/20/liquid_contact_indicator_lawsuit/
[HD2 General] StarLog:
My wifes is white, mine is red, and I know the HD2 did not get wet.

This is bad.
[HD2 General] adwood7:
Mine is red. Bought it 3.24.10 at TMOUS retail store. I saw another thread about this dot having something to do with the build version of the phone. Some people were saying that the red ones were the first gen and I think they mentioned green and yellow as other possible versions. I have no idea if this is true, but I am 100% sure that my phone has not been exposed to moisture / water, etc.
[Droid Incredible General] Chris016:
Can someone dump the Car Panel application that is found on the Incredible and post it here?
[Droid Incredible General] stewalker:
yeh i second that
[Droid Incredible General] Hand76:
Have you guys removed it or just looking to get it for your phone?

If you have removed it how did you do so? What name did you use in the command line?
[HD2 General] badmanh:
Hello XDA, recently bought myself a leo. I turn the phone on it displays the loading screen etc, then the inital HTC Sense screen, it then immediatley goes to a page saying "Network is locked, please input unlock code"

Now i've tried to code on my sim, no dice, i've reset the phone to factory and tried it, no luck. I phoned virgin and they said its a faulty device and i should exchange it.. Now being my birthday and im inpaitent i don't wanna wait for them to change it.. is there a way i can flash the ROM or something? Doesn't in need HSPL installed?

Any help would be appricated.
[HD2 General] andyk159:
My HD2 on Virgin came totally unlocked (can use any SIM) with standard HTC ROM.

Does sound like yours has a problem.
[HD2 General] badmanh:
hmm, weird so theres no way to get around it?
[Desire General] flux:
without restarting the phone. Is it possible? If not I need another music player app because it's lame to restart the phone each time I add a new title.
[Desire General] Fon22:
Im not sure, but I do have a workaround.

Just play the song using a file manager, and the music app will pick it up for indexing.

Fon22
[Desire General] flux:
what if I add 100 new titles? No really, they only need one additional button to reindex! Functionality exists only the user interface lacks one button! So htc why such suffering?
[Desire General] Aitese:
How are you adding the files? Do you just drag and drop onto the SD card? If so the card gets rescanned as soon as you switch back from Disk Drive mode. If it's not then there's a problem.

For example if you connect via USB you have the options to charge only, sync, see it as a disk drive or use the device as a modem. If you see it as a disk drive the SD card is unmounted from the phone until you've finished. Then it's mounted and rescanned.
[Desire General] flux:
no it's not. You can put some files into a mp3/some_subfolder and restart the phone. Then start the music app and then rename this some_subfolder. The app is f-ed up. OK maybe unmounting the sdcard and remounting it is a workaround but it's dirty one.

ps I mount sdcard in a unix environment and do copy files. Then I switch back to inet sharing.
[Desire General] 843:
I tried making the folders hidden by adding a period, but it's still read by HTC Album. How do I get around this? Is there any tweak to change the read permission on folders?

Luckily I discovered this problem myself. :rolleyes:
[Desire General] JapanLover:
create a file named ".nomedia" and put it in the folders you don't want the media player to show.

Windows will not let you create such a file, so create an empty text file named "a.nomedia", copy in the folders, then using Astro rename it deleting the "a" and you're good to go
[Desire General] samsanchez88:
I have read elsewere that this method can erase the files in that particular folder. I'm not sure when or why it does it but watch out!!
[Desire General] Aitese:
Dodgy pics of the missus eh? Say no more.

I just moved a picture into a folder starting with a fullstop and it's not showing up in the gallery anymore. Are you running the HTC photo gallery or the Cooliris Gallery app?

[EDIT] I also just added a fullstop to the front of a folder on my SD card (/media/wallpapers became /media/.wallpapers) and it's no longer showing in the gallery.
[Desire General] 843:
Seems to work. Thanks! :)
[Desire General] 843:
I'm not using it for sensitive documents :P

It's the HTC one. The widget doesn't display hidden folders, but when you list all media (where the app searches for pics and vids), it shows.
[Desire General] JapanLover:
my (well, it's not mine of course :D ) method doesn't delete anything. Or at least I'm doing so in almost three cells and since... hmmmm let's say 6 months.

as for putting a dot in front of the folders... keep in mind that it can cause probs to the apps using that folder.

I.E. a GPS app will not find its icons and so on.

Just use the file methid, I'm pretty sure it's safe
[Desire General] Aitese:
I created the wallpapers folder so no apps should be using it.
[Desire General] biemsy:
Adding a .nomedia file worked for me, but only after a reboot. No more album art showing up.
[Desire General] bertalizer:
you are right:

h_t_t_p://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3692
[Desire General] 843:
Forget what I said. It doesn't work. I rebooted the phone, effectively refreshing the album cache, and .nomedia is listed when it searches for photos and videos.
[Desire General] quicksite:
At first i read this as doggy pics, which sounded gnarly.

What does "adding a full stop" mean?

And why is windows referenced above, vs android OS?
[Desire General] 843:
I just downloaded Pandora which essentially does the job.
[Desire General] Aitese:
Android is a Linux based OS. A folder with a period in front of it means its hidden to any app that doesn't directly know its there
[Desire General] biemsy:
And then I realised the .nomedia meant music players ignore the folder too. Doh!
[Desire General] Jabbypants:
I just do the full stop method and use astro file manager to view the items.
[Off-topic] tsalta:
Hello guys i wana ask you what you think about the new iPhone 4G that must to be released after around 2 mounths.. here will atach some Pics and Specs but note that this is not release yet just is info floated in internet.

We know very well that the iPhone 3GS is alot more faster and FInger Friendly than WinMo.. also the screen and etc.. once i play with an iPhone i was amazed how sensitive it is.. and how Smooth and Fast is everything.. the reason to stop me buy a iPhone is because of the Battery and of the Bad Camera.. and some litle more things..

But now in the new iPhone 4G this is not a problem anymore because he will have removable battery and i think a good 3.2 Camera..

Also the design of the device is complate diferent and now not looking like a soap-dish now look really stilysh and is very very slim.

I wonder that will be the proccessor but will wait to see, also i think that now even more peoples will begin to use an iPhone..

I Hear that the processor will be dual Core and the camera can be even 5 megapixels not 3.2 but all this is guessing we will wait to see the final product but with sure will be something Superb Cool..
[Off-topic] shu8i:
1. you think that iphone OS is faster than winmo because you've never tried an HD2 ;)

2. you think it's more sensitve because there was no capacitive touch for winmo until the HD2 ;)

3. the pictures you're searching for are here:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/iphone-4g-proof/

*the pics you provide were actually made before the 3GS ;)

4. the processor will likely be the same as in the ipad (rumors)
[Off-topic] mideel:
haha..removable battery.. never, my friend, never.

fake.