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[Hero CDMA Android Development] MRagu:
Re: [ROM] ZenEXP-0.9.6.2 New Expresso MT3G Slide Landscape Rosie

A recent bug I have ran across is that the auto brightness does not work properly with this Rom. I have messed with it quite abit to verify b4 posting it as a bug and can assure it is not working right (atleast not on my phone).

A few times I enabled it, it worked for a few mins then stopped. The setting do not hold. Sometimes I have even went back to enable and disable it and it wasnt even checked anymore. Hopefully this wasn't posted already and hope this helps out for a fix....

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] jayjay7411:
Well I have to say again I am super stoked been running this ROM for about 36 hours and just amazement. And now I go t Zen update and bam 0.9.6.3 now have the new you tube app with HQ button hell yes and a couple of other fixes. I have to say Zen your doing a outstanding job! Keep up your amazing work sir!!!!

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] usaar33:
reponse to a variety of people

1) I am simply noting that it is a bug. I don't expect it to be fixed, but not considering it a bug seems very silly. The ROM presents the option in display settings, but the home screen fails to obey that setting. It does not matter if it is HTC's fault; it is still a bug.

2) The use-case is lying on a bed sideways and using the phone. It is non an uncommon use case: nearly 60,000 people have joined a Facebook group *****ing about this issue on the iPhone:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-hat...-in-bed-and-use-it/273485774242?v=info&ref=ts

I strongly disagree with this view on software. As a developer myself of free software, I believe I have the duty to inform my users as much as possible about what to expect. This includes stating all non-trivial known bugs.

I want my users to be happy when they use my product, and I am fine accepting all constructive criticism.

I don't know what motivates you to release ROMs to the community. My own for releasing free software were to both make people happier and gain community respect. Was I under an obligation to spend time dealing with user concerns? Nope. But did it make a lot of sense to do so given my goals? Definitely.

SnapPhoto Pro doesn't work on this ROM. That's one program, so I don't expect it to be noted.

However, any problem with core functionality (bluetooth, mms, sms, google syncing, auto-brightness, auto-rotate, etc.) seems important enough to note. Any google-issued application not working (listen and finance) is worth noting. As are a class of applications not working (I recall embedded webviews not working in some early 2.1 rom). This is not to say that anyone expects ROM developers to run exhaustive tests, but if I were developing ROMS, as serious issues came in, I would note them.

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Some final points:

1) It isn't that trivial to transition to a new ROM. The process of backing up stuff, restoring, resetting up one's home screen, and account info easily will take 20-30 minutes.

2) I actually missed the known bugs section (which note the gmail issue) as it was under ZenEXP-0.9.5 rather than ZenEXP-0.6.

3) I've decided to be constructive. I added this rom to the ROM wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=CDMA%20Hero%20ROMs and also noted known issues and solutions on another page. For future ROMS, I use, I will do the same. I hope that the community embraces this pattern, which will help end-users make informed decisions on which ROMs to try.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mercado79:
I hear what you're saying, but... I think these applications not working is a recent thing. And... it appears to be a Google issue as several of the newer phones running Android 2.2 are running into this issue too. My guess is that Google will push out a fix soon enough.

And yes... I think you're right that a lot of the "anger" towards your comments have to do with the way you worded your first post (semantics as you said). Seems like people getting a little sensitive around here though.

That said, this ROM is running way better for me than others based on the official 2.1 RUU so I'm sticking with it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
Ill check this now, but Im pretty sure I always tick that box, since i know I need SSL.. lol

Thanks!

::: I feel like a douche, w/ a bag..:::

The tickbox looks checked, until you check it...lol

All works now!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
I think you can use a shortcut for mobile network on the home screen..
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mcfarlan:
I tried not to say anything but can't help..

Friendly advice...this is not an organization with a User Acceptance Department etc. and you will find that even the stock rom has some shortcomings which is why XDA exists. When someone takes a Rom not meant for a specific device and gets it working 90% we think that is cause for celebration. You have taken an entire page to develop a QA philosophy because one thing did not work the way you think it should logically. That is par for the course in here. Many times it is not what you say but the way you say it. What you are complaining about was discussed in the thread. There were those who liked it and those who did not. The developer decided to have it the way it is and that is his choice. That does not necessarily make it a "bug". End-user experience and making informed decisions, sounds like a commercial SW development environment which is not what this is.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] dhero1:
You missed the haptic settings - they don't work right on this ROM or any other as far as I know as changing the setting in one place doesn't change the setting for all "use cases". And probably a few more that have nothing to do with this custom build - but please do repeat the "issues" page for all ROMs, as you say you will. How about a WiKi "features" page for each ROM as well, where you can use your equally discerning eye and clear logic to point out what you can find in a custom ROM that can't be found elsewhere in a custom ROM. You can start with the landscape 2.1 Sense apps found here -> wouldn't be the first time that a "bug" was also a "feature" ... :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
So, still havent heard anything about the audio bug?

Does anyone else exp. this???
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dhero1:
Good idea - and it's actually a widget selection rather than a shortcut! :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Moguledyouth:
That's my point, I wish to DISABLE the Menu Menu unlock on this rom. I've been trying myself, but I think because of the different frameworks I haven't had much luck.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danaff37:
You'll have to change a line in a smali within the dex file of htclockscreen.apk. Tried looking into it, but haven't had much time to devote to it.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] dhero1:
Hey, I just noticed this reply and having re-read my note, I'd have to agree! But I'm over 21 and not operating a vehicle or airplane, so what I do in front of the terminal is my business! LMAO :p
[Hero CDMA Android Development] thatguythatdid:
LOL:D Awesome
[Hero CDMA Android Development] VinceOB:
This is fixed in the latest Rom.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
Re: [ROM] ZenEXP-0.9.6.2 New Expresso MT3G Slide Landscape Rosie. Overclocked.

Ya i have already made this edit and tried it but unfortunately it does not work. It will disable menu menu unlock but if you press menu more than twice it locks up the phone and you need a battery pull. It seems to think that the screen is still locked for some reason. You can turn on the screen and slide down to unlock but nothing else works so you have to battery pull.

There is another way to do it and I still have to try that way. If we get it working we will include it for sure as it is a nice mod. But so far no luck.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] ajaholic:
just curious, within the dialer app itself, is there anyway to scroll through recent calls like in other versions? right now there is only the most recent call and if i need to see beyond that have to open call history.

thanks
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
Re: [ROM] ZenEXP-0.9.6.2 New Expresso MT3G Slide Landscape Rosie. Overclocked.

No that is the way this rom works

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] danaff37:
Hey zippy while you're here, do boot gifs not work with this framework? Want too know if it's just me or what?

And by the way, reading the past couple of pages, I felt I just had to say that this is the smoothest, slickest rom I've used to date. So you guys are the **** as far as I'm concerned. Keep up the good work. Don't understand why someone would make such a big deal out of a minor design flaw from a leaked, unreleased rom. I never would have known, as I think the rotating rosie kicks ass. Doesn't even lag like other home apps when doing it.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] Moguledyouth:
Zippy thanks for the heads up, I'm loving this rom, and have been attempting trying to deodex because of the HtcLockScreen Menu Menu Unlock issue. Unfortunately I wasn't too successful but was happy to see that you had been looking into it as well. I personally am glad that HTC finally make Sense the way it should be with auto rotation for landscape etc, the only thing better would be if we could get 360 degree rotation. This rom is by far the fastest, smoothest rom I have used to date. I just wish I could do more to help, unfortunately I'm a relative n00b when it comes to the internal guts of Android etc.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ajaholic:
is it possible to fix the locale file so that when you dial numbers it will come out in XXX-XXX-XXXX fromat as opposed XXXXXXXXX. i tried downloading morelocale2 from market and using the en US locale it provides, however it still did not fix this.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
Re: [ROM] ZenEXP-0.9.6.2 New Expresso MT3G Slide Landscape Rosie. Overclocked.

They do work but the rom is setup for a bootanimation.zip so when you remove it the rom does not see the old style boot stuff. I will see what I can do and let you know.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
Re: [ROM] ZenEXP-0.9.6.2 New Expresso MT3G Slide Landscape Rosie. Overclocked.

I will see what i can do. it is not a locale thing it its just the way this dialer works.

This is a us phone with english as the default locale so it is not a problem there

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] ajaholic:
thanks i appreciate you looking in to it. yea i just did some quick googling and some sites said this setting on android is controlled by locale, but i guess the dialer plays a role too.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
Re: [ROM] ZenEXP-0.9.6.2 New Expresso MT3G Slide Landscape Rosie. Overclocked.

Ya usually I think it is controlled by locale but not in this case. Thanks for letting us know I didn't even look at it lol I dial all my numbers from speed dial

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] X1088LoD:
Is there a 3D Gallery for this ROM that works with the landscape rotation? I've found the one version that works, but if you are looking at an album and you rotate it, it wont rotate the picture you are looking at, it will force you back to gallery

The only other one will rotate but do graphical glitches
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dhero1:
I'm using the one called Gallery 3D from the Market - and it seems to do what you're looking for. - check that, I'm checking my Downloads on the Market and it doesn't appear to have come from there ... if you send me your email in a PM I'll email it to you.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dhero1:
Does anyone know the diagnostic code for DATA for this device? I'm trying the new MSL access method and ##3282# does not work here ...

ps. and I've searched the G1/G2 and MT3G forums w/o any luck ...

NVM - I see the post talking about EPST above, and the answer.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] usaar33:
@dhero:

I have no intention of doing QA work - I just report what is found (so I added the haptic thing). I tried out Darchdroid, mostly enjoyed it, but found some bugs -- so I've updated the wiki. My long term hope is that it is used as a issue reporting page. For future roms I use, I'll do the same.

@mcfarlan:

Fair enough. If that's the philosophy here, it will be pretty hard to change. However, if I ever have time, I'll try maintaining a wiki of ROMS and note features and drawbacks. New users here always have a pain knowing which ROM to use; the typical response is "try it out", but let's be honest: that takes a lot of time. I hope the community can attract more people when roms are better vetted.

One thing on the wiki: Is there any reason it hasn't been updated by rom authors in awhile (since april)?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] MRagu:
Re: [ROM] ZenEXP-0.9.6.2 New Expresso MT3G Slide Landscape Rosie.

Ok, back on topic of the Rom .... has anyone else experienced the auto backlight not working properly?

Or is this a already known bug ?

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] Envynet:
Known bug I believe at this point, I seen a few others report it as well.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] myke66:
fantastic rom, only issue im having is gmail push not working. i searched the thread and saw a few comments about it, but no solution to fixing it. Anyone find a way to get this working?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] usaar33:
Nothing you can do. You'll have to use the HTC mail app.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
Contacts Widget

Not sure if Zen is working on a fix for the People widget but I'm pretty close to getting it right. I've been doing a pretty major overhaul of all the widgets to suite my smooth theme and figured I'd try and get the People one working. Turns out it was referring to another framework and that's why it kept FC'ing. I threw a bunch of png's in to make sure it was an image problem and not a smali, etc. problem. Now that it's working, I'll sort out the png's and will upload when possible.

I'll also be uploading my modded widgets soon...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] myke66:
Is push working with it? If thats the case, i dont mind switch mail apps, i just need to get my emails without remmeber to refresh it, lol.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] craigbailey1986:
Being that I am on here almost everyday bugging all developers for answers I can personally say that the screen auto rotate is not a bug.

-If you read the title of the post it is a port of the 3g slide which has a different rosie than the hero rosie.

-If you had been reading through the post you would have noticed that the issue had been addressed already by myself and other non developers(lol) and came to the conclusion that those who dont like the rosie should revert back to the old rosie. (still not a bug just a different rosie, bug is when something doesnt work as intended which this rosie does had you been reading)

-Snap photo pro is working perfectly on my end. (maybe you should uninstall and then reinstall.. if it doesnt work i can send you the apk)

- On another note developers do this because they can and want to, when they decide to start providing you with a service that cost then you can make as many complaints as you like but until then try reading through the post before you opt to try a rom which would eliviate your frustration!

PEACE TO ALL THE DWELL WITH IN THIS XDA FORUM!:p
[Hero CDMA Android Development] craigbailey1986:
I get notifications properly, I believe that I read in another forum that the issue is due to apk. backups and you need to wipe sd partition and set up google account when you first go through set up.

(I will look for forum and edit if I find more info!):D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] craigbailey1986:
I read that clearing the htc sense data clears up all problems with apps, widget and lockscreen.

Dont know how true that is because I have never had that issue....:(
[Hero CDMA Android Development] usaar33:
@craig

As far as the gmail problem, I set up my accounts from scratch. I get notifications if I manually sync, but auto-sync refuses to work.

On the other points: Yes, I am aware it is a custom rosie. From the pictures, I was like "cool, I like this interface". However, a user has no reason to believe that the rosie will auto rotate when he has disabled auto-rotation; I don't understand why you and others do not consider this "not obeying user preferences" a bug.

Snap Photo: I actually can't get it working on any 2.1 rom I've tried (be it this one or fresh toast) - it simply locks up after taking a picture (and the camera is broken until I reboot). <Again, my point was only that such a minor, one application problem need not be mentioned> Though if you don't have this problem, I'd love to get your working apk.

Discovering auto rotate: The first mention of this problem is on page 137 of this forum. It would take a long time for a new user to find that.

Honestly, the main issue is that a forum is really not the ideal way to distribute roms. Problems are lost in the threads, never to be noticed by first-time rom users.

A better way would be to rely on a wiki where comments could be made and problems/solutions aggregated. I guess that was tried some months ago, but ultimately the forum posting took over again. I'm not sure what caused this though.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
The orientation option in the settings has nothing to do with Rosie. We hacked the landscape option to work this is not supposed to work like that.

The other person said that snap photo does not work on any rom above 1.6 so of course we are not going to make a list of apps that do not work there are far too many apps out there find that out on your own.

The reason the Wiki is not updated is Dev's have many more important things to do then update wiki's when changes happen. If you and other want to maintain it go ahead that is what they are there for.

While I understand your thoughts you are going to have to get over the fact that this is the way the forums and rom dev's work. This is not going to change so i hope you can adapt.

As far as using your time to setup accounts, settings etc for Roms well that is on you. Flash the rom take about 15 mins browse around check it out if you dont like it then well dont use it.

Nandroid backup was created for a reason. If you dont like the Rom you press a button and your back on your old rom all setup.

What you want it just not going to happen no matter how bad you think it should happen or want it to happen just not the way it is done around here never really was.

It is all up to you to flash Roms. You take the time to Flash the rom which means that you are willing to waste your time on checking it out. The fun in having a custom recovery is to be able to flash different roms.

You see the other dev's say well "try it yourself" that is how it works. So really while i see your point best bet is to get over it and get used to the way things are here at XDA.

Reading the forum is your task. If you want answers etc READ. I have read all 150+ pages so you can too this is a forum after all.

But I am done with this i doubt your views will change anyway. The one thing in life you gotta understand is what you want and what you get are two different things :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
Great work. I had the people widget working with graphical glitches similar to what you have but stopped at that point and started working on the mobile networks settings.

Thanks for helping out
[Hero CDMA Android Development] alexthearmo:
GOod to hear the mobile networks setting will work in the next release! Any idea on about when you'll be pushing that out? Still my favorite ROM! :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
Not looking so good on the settings at this point we can either get the settings working but make no calls or no settings and calls i have spent over 20 hours on it and just cant get it working yet. maybe i will get lucky or i am over looking something
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
For anyone that is interested here is a new HTC_IME that i themed up to look more like it belongs to this Rom. Thanks to gomorrah I based this off his HTC_IME and changed around some of the blue stuff and of course the keyboard.

If you are on one of the odex'ed roms you will need to remove the old HTC_IME.apk and HTC_IME.odex first

I will throw this on the updater later.

Download Here
[Hero CDMA Android Development] craigbailey1986:
Well for those who are new comers it is imperative that you read the sticky before trying any rom as it explains how this site works.

-If at anytime you have a problem with (ANY) rom just ask your question most of the time there is a solution (especially if you come at the 150+ pages into the discussion)

-It is imperative that ANY noobe (myself included) read the ENTIRE discussion because there may be known bugs between us noobe's that the dev has not had a problem with or have no knowledge of the bug

-The rosie does not control how you set your preferences, as stated before this is not a bug because this roie does not perform as you think thus you must read before speaking.(it clearly states landscape rosie, which i must add there is no other rom that has this besides the modded roms off this one)

-snap pro is indeed working on this rom as I have it, I can send you the apk as stated before and you can try it out. (if your a really noobe the apk is the install file for the program)

-On the gmail sync problem if you check the forum for the gmail sync issue you will find that the method I stated earlier is indeed the way in which MANY others have found to be responsive. No one knows exactly what the causes of the issue is but some think it may be a google issue.

I find it odd that a "developer" does not have the common sense to read the entire thread before trying a rom, which the thread is in my opinion a user manual and goes way into detail about how to use the rom. (no disrespect intended just thoughts)

:D:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] craigbailey1986:
Again nice work zippy... Only question will you be doing an odex version with no oc? I ask because 0.9.5 was a bit smoother in transitioning between apps. I have tried playing around with the cpu but my battery tends to run hot while using the phone (stopped adventure!:p) I am ok with the rom as is because I installed spare parts and it moves like before but just thought I ask...:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Stramondroid:
This ROM is ridiculously fast!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mcfarlan:
Package not signed...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
I've been PM'ing with Zen. I'll send you guys the fix soon so you can incorporate it.

Thanks.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mcfarlan:
MasterWidget

@signals23...the background on the Scoreboard widget keeps reverting to the original white. What is the name of the background you are using in the apk and should I copy and drop it somewhere else? It disappears from the time I start configuring the widget.

Thanks

...sorry, wrong thread
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Responded in Catalog 2.1 thread...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
Well, I hate to dissapoint, but I've hit a road block and can't figure this thing out. I figured I'd turn it over to the community if someone wants to tackle it. I actually don't use the people widget but figured I'd give it a shot.

You can see the padding and spacing of the columns is wrong, there is a mysterious white background that I can't get rid of and there are incorrect image mappings that I don't have access too. Lastly, you can only select the left most contact, which is awesome. I was hoping it would all be fixed through xml because I'm not about to jump into the smali's.

Grab the apk here