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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Only the 'play' part of the WMP library is used in 'iMulator', I will create options so that the user can create playlists. I will also include 'smart' playlists ( most played, top rated )

I can use your idea, I can also let it scan the Storage Card and the Music Folder in your documents.

The system is already written, it should only be made accesable to the user.

I'm the owner of a TP2 which has a 533MHz processor, I will NOT make a lite version, but I will do my best to make it as lite as possible!

What is offline mode? Disconnected from the internet? Ofcourse!

Nope, the current system doesn't allow me to do so, you will have a short 'silence' when switching songs.

Are you looking for a playlist with the last played items? That is on its way;)

I can implement that, but that has a low priority.

Thanks for offering help, if you could post the error i'd be more than happy!

Your omnia has the half of the resolution that I have(240x400 vs 480x800), theifor it will be exactly sized down, it will look fabulous!

Alright, I see.

The point is; the 'list' of songs is a custom component, which means that I completely wrote it. The 'delay' is programmable but takes more resources, it no checks for the 'distance' of the 'mouse' ( your finger ) moving, if that is more than 10px, you pressed it. Try to move you finger to stop it ;)

I hope all of this replys helped ;)

I'm now working on the albumart while browsing and the playlists, update can be expected withing 1 ~ 2 weeks.

Please post the full log of the errors!

Gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jebise101:
great thanks that you will take some of my suggestions to heart. Now get back to work i want playlist support :P. jks take your time work out the bugs make it stable but don't take too long.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Big news,

I just decided to NOT make a paid version, everything in the previous post will be free. NO CHARGES!

I will add a donate button, since every bit of 'reward' is very much appriciated!

Love!

reb3lzrrs
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bajaoc:
i mean the backlight is off while the music is currently playing.. .
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hugocbp:
Subscribing the test now.

I've been trying to let go on HTC Sense 2.5 tabs, since I think it's the main reason of the stability and performance issues on my HD2.

Until now I've managed to dump Twitter, Reader, documents, Calendar tabs for specific apps, but couldn't find a good Music Tab replacement.

I think iMulator can't do this now, but I have high hopes that soon it will be my Music Tab replacement.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djorke:
it works!

Moving finger to stop scrolling really works! Thanks

Keep going
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Added 2 screenshots of album art and playlists:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CarciaPassos:
reb3lzrr, that´s great news! Keep on the developing, improving this great piece of program and donators will appear. Consider (doesn´t need to be in a hurry) to make a "cover flow" for it.

Cheers!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] radzi:
congratulations for that initiative!, really impresive, my knowledge on programis is very poor, if I knew a little bit more I would have loved to make my own music software.

I'm trying it on my HD2 and works perfect till now, but I have to say something... this software is 100% yours based on the idea of iphone music software, may be a help from s2p, but is 100% yours name it your way, not iSomething ipod clone, and would you consider on making the UI a little bit more YOURS, I've installed S2P and iMulator, I cant realize wich I'm using, both are TOO the same. I can help you redesing graphics/buttons and so.

If you are taking so much effort to make this from zero, do one more step and make something distinguishable, unique. I know you can. If need help, here you'll find it.

All I said is with much deserved respet from your work, i hope you understand.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zen kun:
what we need?same as s2p?set up a folder.png under the album root?thanks

EDITED: IMO like someone pst before you should try maybe change name more like "yours" its your own program even when compare to s2p dont care its yours its iphone like so you should named like rebe3lplayer

LOL well a better name i guess LOL
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MartyLK:
Using the iMulator on a T-Mobile USA HTC HD2 - The main page Option menu doesn't pop up. That's probably where the Shuffle, Repeat, Playlist and other selections are.

Also, I use AAC. Will this player support other formats besides MP3? It would be outstanding if it supported OGG and FLAC. As it is, this is a very promising music player.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sentinel79:
I get this error ... I try to install .Net 3.5 but I get a message that I have a later version already installed ... so here's my program error:

can't find pinvoke dll sqlite.interlop.065.dll

Really looking forward to using this :P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
No.. it load the AlbumArt that is embedded within the mp3 file;) I think i need a better name indeed, why don't we all think of names now :P

Winner gets a coockie!

The options page isn't writen yet :P

I think I can support OGG and FLAC, do you perhaps happen to know if WMP supports these extensions?

the SQLite dll is located in the directory of iMulator, i suppose its there... Your rom might be 'shipped' already with .net. I don't know how you could solve that

Gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MartyLK:
I apologize, I don't know that. But I would encourage you to continue work on this music player. It truly is a better music player among all the other ones which are backed by business. If you manage to smooth it out, you would have the premium music player above all others.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djorke:
No, Windows Media player doesn't support them
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zen kun:
yay a cookie xD

and well i have no embedded albums so will be nice for that EX users of s2p or for avoid embed like 3 gb of music the album. will be nice

and how its the name

likephone

LOL xD
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] devis:
I get the following....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Johny_G:
Well, this is just not

it

:-). I want to have it on my Last.fm profile. It is just writing a registry key to support Pocket Scrobbler. I would love to see some good player that supports it. Manila tab does, but I have to turn the service on manually, which is annoying. And I am going to try your app right now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fretjes:
Req. Bookmark

Sounds good. I currently use Pocket Player and the main reason being that it has a bookmark function. As far as I know no other player has that. So my suggestion will be a bookmark function with the possibility of several (perhaps unlimited) bookmarks. The reason being that I play music and stop the album being played and start an audiobook. After that play again some music and like to continue with my audiobook. I think you catch my drift.

Secondly, is the player continuing after the lock screen has been activated? This is not clear to me, TCMP for instance, switches off when lock screen is activated.

But apart from al this, keep up the good work and lots of succes. I will test the player but like I said, I'm only interested if there is a bookmark function.

Succes met de studie in ieder geval,

gr fred:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rast4man:
Installed and tried with iPhoneToday and it crashes each time.

Here is the crash report:

Error

An unexpected error has occured in iMulator.exe.

Select quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more

information.

File or assembly name

'System.Data.SQLite, Version=1.0.65.0,

Culture=neutral,

PublicKeyToken=1FDB50B1B62B4C84', or

one of its dependencies was not found.

Does this have database built into the software and for some reason it won't let me access a database?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jebise101:
i'm glad you got playlist working. Will we be able to created playlist using the computer and import it to the player and use it? s2p currently supports that but its a bit weird coz the folder strutures are messed. Also what type of playlist will you support?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Perhaps you don't have acces to the Database ( Located in the 'database' folder )

I'll support m3u playlists which can be made on your PC, and if you drag it onto your device it will automaticly be imported in the lists of playlists ;)

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MartyLK:
How do you create a playlist on the PC? I have never understood that. I can create playlists on MP3 players that are in MTP mode, but that's all I know of.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rast4man:
What would be your recommendation for linking it to the database in the folder?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jebise101:
yay great just what i was looking for.

@MartyLK

you can use any music app to create playlist i just use WMP and save them all to m3u
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MartyLK:
But what gets me is, how do you associate the files with the playlist on the device? Example:

I make a playlist on WinXP in WMP using a folder of MP3 music files located on the PC. I copy the playlist and folder of music files to the device. On the PC, the playlist knew where to find the music files. But on the device, how does it associate the music files?

EDIT-

Also, how do you select the type of playlist WMP produces?

EDIT 2-

Eh...I'll just use MediaMonkey to create the playlist in the m3u format. But it's moot at this point anyway, iMulator doesn't yet show playlists...unless the download at the first post in this thread isn't to an updated version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
I'm not aware of any options in any media player that is able to auto generate m3u playlists. However, according to the file specifications provided by wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3U ), its just a simple 'text file'. Which means its extremely easy to create such playlist, by hand or with the help of a tool.

I'm sorry to tell you that I dont have any recommendations, I suppose you installed iMulator on the device. This should not create any problems for you what-so-ever.

If you provide me with more detailed info I might track the source of the problem and come up with a solution.

I'm glad to hear that! As I told in the first reply of this post, i'm not aware wmp can create a playlist, however I'll implement a feature that will be capable to export the playlist created in iMulator to a m3u format. So that when switching device, or resetting iMulator your playlist will stay intact

The latest version of iMulator (with the playlists and album art), is currently in development. I want to support full playlists the moment I release it, theifor its only and exclusively in my possesion.

Let me refer to the page on wikipedia again (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3U), according to this specification the links can be relative.

For example:

Alternative\Band - Song.mp3
Classical\Other Band - New Song.mp3
Stuff.mp3

Relative links are dynamic, it doesn't matter where you put the song or the playlist, as long as the location of the music file and the playlist stay relative to each other.

The location of the created playlist would be the lowest location possible.

For example:

You wish to add these songs in a playlist:

\\Storage Card\\Music\\Artist1 - Album1\\Song1.mp3
\\Storage Card\\Music\\Uncatagorized\\Song2.mp3
\\Storage Card\\Music\\Artist2 - Album1\\Song3.mp3
\\Storage Card\\Music\\Artist2 - Album1\\Song4.mp3
\\Storage Card\\Sounds\\Song1.mp3

The most logical position of the m3u playlist would be "\\Storage Card\\". iMulator will 'transform' the paths to the relative path which would be:

Music\\Artist1 - Album1\\Song1.mp3
Music\\Uncatagorized\\Song2.mp3
Music\\Artist2 - Album1\\Song3.mp3
Music\\Artist2 - Album1\\Song4.mp3
Sounds\\Song1.mp3
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Shum97:
looks nice thanks:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] keebler02:
I really like your software here as it feels like the most comprehensive and best suited player I have found. How ever when I try to import my music, currently about 500 mp3s, it locks on importing file 194 and will never continue. After which it locks up and I cannot get back into the app. I have tried installing to the Device and SD, both give same result.

I have an HD2, stock besides SPB Mobile Shell. Any ideas on what might be causing this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
I have, the version you have doesn't fully support ID3v2 tags, it will be fixed next update!

gz reb3lzr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] keebler02:
Totally makes sense now. Thank you so much for letting me know, I shall now patiently wait. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CowMix:
will album art work with folder images too? I like to save space on my memory card but not embedding the image in every single mp3 file for one album.

looks great, keep up the good work :)

o and last.fm pocket scrobbler support would be amazing
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Thanks! I don't understand why you won't embed the image; imagen you have 1000 songs with each a 50kb image imbeded into it, that will increase the songs with a total of (1000*50) 50000kb, which is roughly 48mb, that is nothing compaired with the size of the 1000 songs!

Point beeing; no I will not support images that are in the same folder as the mp3 file, why? Its an excelent oppertunity for bugs to occur, and I dont like that :)

Gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dejan1989:
realy good player :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] felixdd:
Great news. Currently I'm using Winamp to create M3U playlists on my computer and then load them on my HD2. Winamp generates relative-based M3Us.

When I need to edit playlists, I use GSPlayer2, which still retains that function. But Im excited to hear you can do it natively on Imulator!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] CowMix:
48 mb thats a good 7 or 8 songs :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moorgogel:
Hey, your player is very very nice but there are three things i mind on my HD2:

If i switch on genres i see genres like blues tough i dont have such musik on my mobile. When i klick on it iMulator crashes.

Some albumarts seem to be damaged but sense musicplayer show them correct.

I cant find the exit button ;)

Will there be a search function?If not i think you can disable the keyboard

So long, cant wait for the next version.How long do we have to wait?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
I don't know about the blues genre, it starts with an empty database so somewhere on your device that genre is located.

The albumart thingy will be fixed in the next update, about the exit button... I will make one;)

If your lucky I'll release a new version tonight, or tomorrow ;)

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] expsvetly:
Lyrics support

Please add lyrics support :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
New version online!

[05 May 2010]
- Changed the way of loading ID3v2 tags; 100% v3 and v4 support, increased loading time up to 400%.
- Changed some of the play form, will not update when not shown -> increased the 'smoothness' in the browseform.
- Fixed more memory leaks.
- Added rating system.
- Added 'smart' playlists; Top Rated, displays the first 100 songs that are best rated & Most Played, which will display the first 100 songs that are the most played
- Added Album art.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moorgogel:
wow, now i like it even more ^^ Is this also a alpha version? Seems for me more like Beta or 0.8 or something *g*
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zen kun:
man u will destroy s2p LOL anyways its implemented the use of bluetooth headset?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Thanks, I took that as a compliment :)

It could go through as beta, or even 'normal state, however It's not done so I will keep the 'alpha' tag for now ;)

Thanks, took that as a compliment aswell :P

I don't have a bluetooth headset, isn't the audio send to the headset by the OS ( WinMo )?

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sanazahara:
Thank You,nice share.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zen kun:
well yes and no since winMo its kind jealous lol only works with wmp plugins and some make plugins im using pocket pc and implement a .dll to make headset working i can post it if you want but maybe wmp has his own.

i will try see how factory and bussiness going its kind low this day and if i can i will try send you a headset as donation, i dont promise because its difficult time here and maybe i will upgrade the phone xD
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jebise101:
great work, hopefully your next release will have custom playlist support. Are shuffle/repear enabled this time around?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Heart1010:
Really nice player so far.... I think not scanning the complete phone for mp3 but (user) set a folder as media library would be really better (thousands ringtones and so on in the list now ;))
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Not yet, I will work on that tonight and make sure it will be in the next update;)

Thanks for the comment, I will work on that aswell ;)

Gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] herculese1:
Shuffle?

For the life of me i cant find where i can shuffle the songs. Is it just me?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
please just read the previous post.. ;) gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] herculese1:
thanks

woops lol. i read the first few pages of the thread and didnt see anything about it. it would figure that it would be the post right before mine haha. Keep up the great work!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] codesoup:
thank you! app is working fine. pretty application..the custom playlist support willl be agood feature. someone says here the player will knock the s2p out..from the look of it...this seems so! :D:D:D

would like to see a landscape view of albums..maybe similar to the coverflow. you say it will not be implemented but is possible yes?????

very good release.congratulations and good luck to u!!!!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Thanks for the great comment,

In computerworld, nearly everything is possible, the only limitation is your hardware. Here 'possible' could be defined as does the hardware give you enough 'power' to do your desired task. The coverflow is very 'hard' to write because of the immense load on the device.

If i were to 'draw' the coverflow as I did in the rest of the app ( using the CPU ) it would take perhaps seconds to draw a single frame, using OpenGL ( which I never worked with ) it might reduce to perhaps 0.05 seconds.

Point beeing, making it isn't THAT hard, getting it smooth would be the challange.

I'm signing off, getting some sleep ;)

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rast4man:
Not sure what else I can provide you with. I just downloaded and installed and it crashes every time. I didn't get an option to link it to a DB. Does it perhaps rely on a third-party database software that I missed completely? I ran it off my main device and also off the Internal Storage of my HTC Touch Diamond and it crashes with the report I posted before. I love the way it looks and would love to use it but I just can't get it working. Any ideas?

Regards,

Rob
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vjeta:
Hi !

Very good app !!

Only two comments:

1- having devide in silence or vibrate modes sounds like if it had volume

(not a problem...)

2- it doesn't play eAcc+ (mp4) music files! i have it over 300 and it doesn't recognize them when importing to the library!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] herculese1:
Did you install .NET Compact Framework 3.5 Redistributable first?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigeneral:
thanks, i'm going to try this!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phhere:
It would be greate to have the posibility to just search in one special folder and not everywhere. because for me it founds also mp3 sounds of navi software
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chabbe11:
Really sweet application actually. Unfortunately it doesn't have many slide graphics like S2P. But this is a great start and I'll follow your work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] expsvetly:
Lyrics

As you now Iphone support lyrics (when you tab on picture art - appear lyrics of the song (static or synchronized lyrics). Is it possible to include this option in player? :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moorgogel:
can you tell us on which features you are working at the moment? And when the new version will come out?

PS: Still missing the exit button ;)

PSS: I think if the next version will named as beta or 0.8 more people would download it!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dangtd2:
look nice :)

gonna try and give feedback soon
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Are these lyrics embeded in the mp3? If so I can make that aswell...

I'm working on the custom playlists, you can add songs to playlists. But for now there isn't an option to create one.

I'll add an exit button aswell ;)

I'll try to get the new version online this weekend, if your lucky tomorrow ;D

The next version will be a 'normal' 1.0 version ;) since its quite stable and complete.

I'm looking forward to it!

gz reb3lzrr
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ermallimaj:
I would also like the lyrics viewer. And yes lyrics is in the id3 tag of the mp3 file itself. Anyway great software i really like it and like the fact that it has a library based on the id3 tags and not on folders. Great work. Please release it soon i can't wait for it ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] moorgogel:
are there any problems with the new version?cant wait for it ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
Nope, took just a little longer than expected;)

New version online!

Changelog:

[17 May 2010]
-	Changed way of loading Album Art, much cleaner. This will give the results of faster displays, less 'lag' when aborting it and the player will not stop playback.
-	Added menus when keeping a song pressed.
-	Added playback options ( normal, repeat ( 1 song ), repeat ( Playlist ), shuffle )
-	Added Custom Playlists.

Have fun!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kobers:
will A2DP support also comes in the future ?

thansk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] botski:
hi, i want to try this in my touch viva, great sharing and knowledge my friend. can you. attach the latest version here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] johnny.g:
Hi this looks neat - but any plans for WMA support in the future?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dontomase:
Hi

Is there bluetooth support?

Can you release a skin for hvga 480x320 or is it possible to make my own skin?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MartyLK:
Very nice! Thanks for your diligent efforts on one of the best music players available. I hope you will consider incorporating AAC+ playback and FLAC.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] reb3lzrr:
You can find the download link in the start post ;)

Jup on its way ;)

For now there isn't a bluetooth support, it should support that resolution just fine! Tell me if it did indeed,

Since i'm using WMP to play the music, and WMP doesn't support AAC+ and FLAC, theirfor it isn't so easy to implement :(

Perhaps one day I will write a library for playing music files, that will allow me to play the files ;)

gz reb3lzrr

gz reb3lzrr