yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jAm-0:
Gives "blow you out of the water" a very new meaning.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] danaff37:
I have an on topic question for ya toast... does this latest build have the updated kernel for properly reporting frequencies?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
It has the same freqs just "numbers" changed. Ie.528,614,710,767. I changed the numbers to reflect actual freq under 610 and didn't round the numbers for freqs above. I haven't updated this build due to the fact they are just numbers and really mean nothing. Also because I'm working on bigger things.:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danaff37:
Ah. I misunderstood what it was changing. And godspeed on whatever you're working on! I can't wait to see/try it!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
ok yeah try the new recovery. its bad @#%
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
I was thinking instead of just adding higher clock speeds.. Could you had them into the kernel. Then for the people who want to push it more can change the setcpu text and add the higher clocks manuelly. And maybe set default to 767, unless changed in setcpu

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] Roman G:
Yes I agree with the above statement!

Give us the option of flaming our phones!:D:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
I will next go around but be warned its a waist. The memory bus is maxed out now and 19.2 mhz higher drops bench scores. If u read my Wiki on get hub ull see that to go any faster and benefit, the memory divider must be changed. All are welcome to help the cause :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jon.StatiK:
This is where I wish I had the time and knowledge to devote to this great cause.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
I also meant "add" the clocks, not "had" them. But you got what I meant..

And I see. I didnt no what the limit was with what we have now. But im on the same page now. Or partly

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
The memory can only go so fast. So when u increase the speed of the cpu the RAM speed increases also. On a pc we reduce the RAM speed and increase clock speed which intern increases the RAM speed again until we hit that physical limit again. Then repeat the process till we find the limit. After that u find the sweet spot. This just a rough break down of what we need to enable the code to do. I don't doubt more will be involved
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Oh yea I no.. I overclock my pc alot, its why i love this rom.. my "partly" was to the understanding of the phone. I was always a pc guy and have takin few classes in computer programming. All this linux and how phones work is new to me. But im learning

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
\o/ we have a dev section!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
I just realized how much I screwed up in typing from my phone at work.

Like

add/ had

understanding/ understatement

That swype keyboard was playing tricks on me
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
lol ...... :p
[Hero CDMA Android Development] slayer161:
can my class 4 4 gig handle this rom while using apps2sd
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Yes.. I have a class 4 and it works fine.

You wouldnt really have a problem using class 2 with apps2sd. Its the swap feature you would need to be worried about.

But class 4 (my class 4 sdcard) handles swap just fine. If you dont want to use swap and just want a2sd. Then reformat your sdcard by repeating the partition instructions and on the first setting "swap" type 0. The next will be for how much you want for ext partition (your apps2sd space). The rest will be fat32
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Avalaunchmods:
alright so 2 things

while watching scrubs on jetflicks today my phone got to 116 F. so just a reminder, watch your temps. even watching videos gets this bad boy hot.

and #2. i tested the kingston 16gb class 10 out today. its not mine so i couldnt get really detailed about it. but HTC says class 2 will do for anything. because the hero will only read class 2 speeds. bs. i put this card in and loaded 4 gigs of music. i then went to the htc music app and bam. instead of waiting for it to load they instantly showed up. all my artists. i went to ongs and within 2 seconds it had loaded all the song names. soo i dont think it was placebo effect. just a couple of my cents. im going to be buying this.

16 gb Kingston Class 10 Micro sd
[Hero CDMA Android Development] slayer161:
tyvm for the help this is my first post on forum lol so if we have same card and mines 4 gig do i just put that in as MiB?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
I tried finding one of these a couple weeks ago but nothing came up. Ill definitely buy one when the price drops. (when class 28 comes out.)<-made the number up lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danaff37:
I'm very disappointed I can't get this to flash. I let my phone sit for over thirty minutes at the black boot screen. I've tried with a partitioned sdcard and without, with complete wipes of course. I'd post a logcat, but it never gets to the point where adb recognizes it (adb devices shows nothing). Dying to try it, and I'm no noob/idiot, but afraid I have to ask for help. Searched in this thread, and it seems those with a similar problem have had no luck. Toast? Flipz? I'm begging ya, let me taste the secret sauce!

note: tried two downloads to make sure, and running the latest godspeed recovery (with the toast image... lol)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Copy EVERYTHING on your sdcard to you computer. When partitioning it will erase everything.

In recovery go to partition your card. Click on the first choice. The first prompt will be swap, just hit enter(home key i think, it tells you) it will put 32mb swap. The next prompt will be ext partition use the defualt amount (i think its 512mb) hit enter and then the next prompt will be for the rest to be fat32 and enter one more time and then it will finish and you are done. Next change ext2 to ext3. I recommend leaving it at ext3 since some roms do not support ext4.

Flash the rom and it will do the rest for you, it will a2sd for you.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
ill push out a lower clocked beta when i get a chance. thats the solution i guess some had with darth's rom. when he pushed out a lower clocked version and some were able to boot i then. anyhow ill post it in the second post here in the next day or so.

@the super sick sdcard of doom. damn i want one of those bad boys. but damn the price is a little high. maybe u could do some better testing soon on it with swap and all involve. would be nice if it actually improved things. then i might have to go broke for it :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] SupahDave:
A question for guys that are running a2sd... how much free memory is your internal memory showing? I have a2sd enabled and every time I install an app, my internal mem goes down. I'm now at 82mb free which I know is plenty but when I was using a2sd with RegawMod and Fresh 2.0d I was show 140ish and it wouldn't really go down when I installed apps. I'm not sure that a2sd is working right for me.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] Jus10o:
Your dalvik cache was moved to your sdcard also.. Right now its not so when you download an app it adds something to dalvik which makes it go down. 50+ is more then enough free internal. I wouldnt worry about it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danaff37:
with the lower clocked beta, would I be able to use setcpu to bring it back up once booted?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] feld:
I'm sorry flipz, but no... EXT4 will have no benefits on SD cards. You're wasting your time and everyone else's. There is absolutely no benefit of a filesystem with a journal that is not natively flash media aware.

Edit: yes, I understand the difference between flash media and raw NAND. The point still stands -- you gain nothing from a filesystem with a journal on solid state media. You only cause more stress than necessary. The reason why these journals and logs exist is for filesystems on traditional hard drives so you can recover from mechanical failure. Flash doesn't have this problem and filesystem design has to be approached differently.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jAm-0:
Im looking forward to having an opengl ""fix" and being overclocked. Lwps would be seamless.

Just a quick noob question.. What's the difference between compcache and a2sd?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] flipzmode:
We're wasting peoples time by providing an option that allows for larger partition size and reduced fragmentation? It is an option to use and not a requirement. It's not like we pulled this out of the blue and made it work. Ext4 is supported on basically every custom kernel for other phones, so we included it on yours. If it's wasting your time... then don't use it. K thx.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Heaterz16:
Why are you trying to insult one of the best Dev's we have? Seriously, keep your worthless comments to yourself.

Thanks for all you do Flipz and Toastcfh!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Negrito:
ANyone running this ROM on less than a class 6 SD? The fastest I have is a class 4... :confused:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Costa276:
I'm on a class 2 and my Benchmark best is 8785 but avg around 8900

Neocore is 28.5 typically it's less than 5 loaded the way I normally do.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] drbgotenks:
I have been reading that class 4 sandisk will work better/faster then a class 6 transcend/RiData/Kingston.

Can anyone confirm?

I want to buy the highest user rated card.

Thanks
[Hero CDMA Android Development] feld:
Yes, because EXT2's limit of 2TB in a single file and 32TB in max volume size really matter when the largest microsd SD card right now is 64GB.

And fragmentation?

Mod Edit- Foul and abusive language removed

Fragmentation is a non-issue on flash media where... you know... you have no moving head and the "seek" time for many flash manufacturers is sub 1ms.... an order of a magnitude faster than traditional hard drives.

Also, on a limited memory device delayed allocation is a detriment.

"Oh, Mr. App, you want 40MB of memory? Well hold on let's freeze for a minute while we finally flush this data to disk that should have been written 10 minutes ago."

You guys are all doing a great job of hacking up ROMs (which I don't have the free time to do right now), but honestly there's this huge cloud of ignorance over this forum, and you're pushing it onto all the newcomers who trust you. 99% of the people who come here know nothing of Linux/Unix and can't make educated decisions themselves. You're now creating an army of people running your ROMs and aren't getting the most out of their devices because you didn't take time to explain properly why you made this feature available and who really needs it (almost nobody). You're also putting them at risk of killing their cheap SD cards because of the extra stress the journal adds.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
hmmm maybe u should watch ur mouth. dont use it then. right now whether u have some valid point or not u look like a fool. the truth is that ext4 is desired by some and some like u are against it. whatever. just like some are against ext3 or even a2sd all together. i added it to the kernel and it only took a second to do. but i guess that may have took u longer. so in that event i have not waisted mine or anyones time by adding it. honestly why act like a fool. so what if i added something u dont like. from what i can tell uve added nothing to this thread or this community that i can say i like. u dont see me flaming u. get over it, im not removing it because u say so, specially when u come in here disrespecting someone because ur bored or a fanboy.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
im glad you find it amusing to quote me in your sig...makes me feel all warm and tingly inside! :o

:rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jakejm79:
So I have quick question about the whole ext2/3/4 thing, is ext4 required to use the compcaches and/or Ramzswap feature, or is the swap partition not formatted to any of those?

Basically I would like to be able to use ext2/3 since that allows compatibility with other roms and there for means that i don't have to repartition my mSD card every time I want to nandroid restore. But if it is a requirement for certain features then those might outweigh the convenience factor.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
u can use whatever extended partition u like. ext4 is an option and for compcache all u need is a swap partition on ur sdcard. but yeah if ur already using ext2/3 ur good as far as that goes. if u would like to try ext4 there is that option
[Hero CDMA Android Development] feld:
I think I've proven who the fool is here, and I also wasn't talking to you anyway (though I understand you were the one that added it to this ROM.)

Flipz would be doing the right thing by clarifiying that EXT4's benefits don't affect SD cards so the community of users running Fresh aren't shooting themselves in the foot.

As my point has been thoroughly made, don't expect any further replies from me in this thread. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, people.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] smw6180:
Not having flashed this rom, but having *ix experience:

It shouldn't matter for caching. ext2 should work. ext3 works, tends to be faster for me (as has been noted, journaling really isn't necessary due to the nature of the flash drive) but is probably not necessary. I use ext3 because I'm used to it. Swap is (typically) formatted as 'swap'.

Having said that, make sure you're not using a cheap SD card (as has also been noted). The cheap ones will have issues and die on you much faster than the ones made by more mainstream manufacturers (kingston, sandisk, etc).
[Hero CDMA Android Development] abcdfv:
I was under the impression compache used compressed RAM as swap, instead of the SDcard? Why would the SDcard need to be formatted?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] smw6180:
You've proven you can get upset and annoyed when someone disagrees with you. You have some valid points, but putting them out there the way you have makes you look like a hot tempered idiot.

As for Flipz clarifying anything let me say this (and I've said it before and will no doubt say it again):

If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be doing it. Read up BEFORE making changes on your phone. I have no problems with doing my own research (and usually do) but these forums ARE the developer forums. Anyone coming here and randomly flashing new ROMs without prior research into their functionality deserves what they get. The devs go out of their way to warn people that their ROMs may have problems, may not function as expected and can in some cases cause damage. People choose to read those disclaimers as some kind of standard thing, instead of taking them literally. Which causes them to have problems because they don't know what they're doing.

Caveat emptor. You should know what you're getting into BEFORE you do it. If you don't you only have yourself to blame. The information is out there, people just need to search for it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] smw6180:
I haven't studied up on compcache, honestly. All I'm going by is the fact that you get the option to utilize swap on your SDcard when you partition it. If I'm wrong, I apologize.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] abcdfv:
I beleive it was in some 1.5 ROM, can't remember who put out the kernel. gbphil?

All you had to do to enable compache was set a value, and test it by running "free" in ADB shell
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
i think u still miss the point that this is a rom development thread and im not here to play teacher to u or anyone else for that matter. ext3 is suggested by the developer of apps2sd cyanogen over ext2. he suggests it because alot of issues had emerged from using ext2. that said if someone is worried about reading and writing to their sd and burning it up. then i would suppose they wouldnt be using a2sd to begin with. that said it sounds like ur a man who want s to run stock and not this rom. so i wish u away and hope u find a better rom somewhere else. :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
no... itll be a 710 and if that doesnt work then idk :(
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danaff37:
that's quite ok, I'd be extremely happy to just be able to try that. Thanks for your help toast, and I'll leave you alone now and patiently wait till you can do that for us. You're the man!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danaff37:
I don't know if it makes a difference toast, but I was thinking, I run the godspeed recovery that keeps the clock pegged, which nandroids a lot faster now by the way, and I have zero issue with it.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
Ok guys is the Rom just that good or is no one running it?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] wtphoto:
im gonna go ahead and see if I can go without the cam and flash this. I am making backups right now
[Hero CDMA Android Development] aggie6600:
Re: [ROM-DEV] 04/27/10 | Fresh Toast v1.1 | BFS + Full Scaling Overclock

I've been running it for a few days with no problems aside from the nandroid issues with ext4. I just haven't updated recovery to Gods speed yet.

also if I understand right internal memory will go down slightly when apps are installed even if a2sd is working properly?

I am missing the camera aittle though. Not complaining. Just saying.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] Leukay:
The rom was great for me. I used it flawlessly for a while, and still have my nandroid of it, but I needed to get back to my DarchDroid... But this rom is definitely one of my two favorite sense roms by far
[Hero CDMA Android Development] pwrmedia:
Been running it since the 4/27 release. Zero FC's, zero audio issues, OC hasn't caused any hiccups, and have maintained decent battery life. Toggling b/t GDE and Helix Launcher, but no complaints when using Sense either...

A2SD worked fine, did notice about a 15 MB drop in internal mem, but no noticeable system lag. I stuck w/ Auto Killer, and SetCpu is set to 767/614..

WiFi notices networks, but can't connect.... I'm not a big WiFi guy anyway, and with this being the only real noticeable gripe (other than the obvious camera miss), I personally will most likely be sticking w/ this ROM and future updates until an official 2.1....or until the weather changes. :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] drummingfool:
I tell you what... this ROM is BOMB. Its my favorite one so far. Only once did I really miss having them camera, when I was behind a guy whose license plate was "NSFW", but other than that no biggie.

One thing that I dont know if it makes sense...

I enabled JIT on this ROM last night, and today Im seeing a noticeable jump in battery performance. Is this because I disabled Sense, or is it JIT in general causing it?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Rally187:
:eek: its that good.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] slayer161:
i saved ev thing and made a new fold called card lol anys all the info was on it and the folder was empty anyways flashed rom got load screen thought well maybe its just slow went to sleep while loading woke up 7 hours later still on screen lol should i flash the rom then partition and this time not make a folder for them just place in like my documents?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] SupahDave:
Pull the battery and reboot it. Mine always hangs on the first boot but it'll boot fine the 2nd time...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ehiggins:
Hello

I saw HTC released Eris source code. It has a .29 in the download file. I don't know if this could help with the camera but I thought I'd let you know its on their dev page.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] slayer161:
lol i forgot to say i tried it 2 times first time waited 20 mins pulled battery then booted went to sleep so any ideas? i ruu'd again my phone as we speak im rooting again any ideas how to flash toast and partition in what order step by step? srry for asking for so much info lol

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fixed the problem doing this.......

k this is what i did iv think iv finnaly understand root and rom process so on.

i used ruu to start fresh deleted all on re rooted from the how to section in xda forum i installed ra 1.6.2. then installed godspeed recov through the way it says on ther godspeed how to did not work for me at all couldnt recognise shell instead put it in android sdk used cd C:\android-sdk-windows\tools then adb devices adb push recovery-RA-heroc-v1.5.2.img /sdcard (i put in god speeds recov instead of ra} then adb shell reboot then adb shell next su next cd /sdcard/ next flash_image recovery recovery-RA-heroc-v1.5.2.img(remember used diff recov) waited for flashing then reboot recovery.

then i rebooted phone opened card in com copied files then turned off phone

booted to recov partitioned using the home instead of typing in specifics updated my 2ext-ext3-ext4 granted im using a card and using the godspeed recov which can handle it.

enabled usb through the recov put in files from my com that i copied.

wiped factory then updated zip and boot phone first time loaded but was stuck on lock screen pulled battery rebooted again waitred bout 10 15 mins worked perfectly. if i did something wrong plz tell me but i put all this cuz it worked and might help others who are new to rooting/rom/and partitioning cards for sprint htc hero figured all this out through trial and error took me about 4 days of nonestop com working to figure it out lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] kmartburrito:
This ROM is great !

I started noticing that my dialer and phone wasn't working properly on a reboot yesterday. It seems to eventually work, but REALLY struggles the first 15 minutes or so after a reboot. I got quite a few FC's today on dialer and phone. Later on, seems to work better.

Any ideas?

I tried APK/uid mismatches, and don't know if that helped or not.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 16vMK1:
today at school i downloaded home++beta just to try it out and i set it as my launcher to use it for a a little bit to see if i liked it. well i wanted to see if lwp work so i set one but it force closed right away pretty much. once that happened my screen went unresponsive and so did the hard keys except home and end. so i clicked home so i could choose which launcher but i couldnt(no touch or trackball). i tried to turn of the phone but it just hung on the power off loading screen. so i pulled the battery and tried to reboot and i got a nice boot loop. so i went and restored to a nand of this rom i made a couple days ago. i tried to boot that but i got a boot loop with that as well. i had a nand of fresh2.0d so i restored that and it actually booted. so when i got home i tried to flash just the oc rom after wiping and boot loop still. idk whats up right now i going to try and flash over 2.0d and see if that works. so maybe stay away from home++ and try to set a lwp...

EDIT: 1.1 flash over 2.0d didnt work either :( i guess no OCing for me...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] black7:
Re: [ROM-DEV] 04/27/10 | Fresh Toast v1.1 |

I had a similar if not the exact same issue yesterday as well. All seems fine now though. I wasn't in front of a computer so couldn't pull a logcat.

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