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[Desire General] thedoccwc:
This is starting to look like a widespread problem.

It's been a known issue on T-Mobile's UK network with the Hero (G2 Touch, as T-Mobile call it) for several months now.

There are a load of threads on their support forum about it - I should add that T-Mobile staff themselves are a rare sight on the support forums, it's mostly T-Mobile's customers helping fellow customers out. The latest ongoing thread is called 'Todays the day - part 3'. I can't remember the rules on posting links here, so I won't post one just in case. A quick Google may take you directly there.

The current sitrep for those of us who've got G2's is that T-Mobile will happily take them in for repair (i.e. a format and reflash), but are, for the most part, refusing to give anybody a replacement phone. One or two users have been told they can have a replacement, but I'm not sure if anybody has received one yet. More recent enquiries have been met with a firm 'NO'.

As for compensation/contract cancellation, that's a dead end.

T-Mobile are posting once or twice a week updating us - which generally means that they say something like 'we're expanding our tests and analysing results, but we still don't know what's wrong'.

It looks like a few Desire customers are experiencing the same issue now, as well.

Emails to HTC fall on deaf ears.

It has seemed like it's a network congestion issue, which doesn't bode well for a fix. I'd imagine the T-Mobile/Orange merger will take a long time to sort out, but it looks like a pooling of network resources might not fix the problem from our end if Orange customers are suffering as well.

Essentially they've got us all over a barrel and, on the T-Mobile side, they're being as unhelpful as possible. Customer Service doesn't mean a thing where they're concerned.
[Desire General] gogol:
I also suspect this is merely an issue with the mobile operator.

I am using T-Mobile NL at this moment and I started to experience this issue since about 2-3 months ago, using my HTC Kaiser. Connection to the internet via 3G is hit or miss, sometimes just "stalled" (connected, but no data traffic). The only way to remedy is to restart the data connection. Really annoying.

Before that, 3G connection was OK, quite reliable.

At first, I was thinking this could an issue with my dying HTC Kaiser or Opera Mini. Reinstalled Opera Mini, no cure. Of course I ignored checking HTC Kaiser because I was about to get HTC Desire.

Now, with HTC Desire, I got the same issue.

So, as I said previously, I will try other provider this weekend, Vodafone NL by buying its prepaid card. Yeah, sounds expensive experiment though. But I dont want to just jump to Vodafone without testing it at home first!
[Desire General] wardy:
The problem is definitely with all operators . More and more people are using smart phones or using data in other ways . The networks did not really anticipate this and are on the back foot upgrading etc but at the moment they are on to a losing battle as Iphone , HTC phones, Nokia , Samsung etc are all connected up now to Facebook etc . This is now an expected norm but a couple of years ago email and web surfing where limited to just a few high end smart phones.

Bandwidth is being squeezed , expect to see some radical changes to data plans if it get worse .
[Desire General] stewalker:
same problem here and it drives me nuts. Only way ive found to sort is as mentioned kill the connection and restart it. Mine also freezes on the up traffic while changing between hsdpa and 3g. Im on orange. My hero and g1 also did this on 3uk but not to this extent
[Desire General] JTHM:
Hi Folks

As you can see I started this thread a while ago; so long ago it got lost in the mists of time and took me ages to find it!

Anyhow, all seems to have gone quiet around here on this problem but I for one am still experiencing it. Am I the only one or has a cure been found which I missed?

Many thanks.
[Desire General] joe_998:
No, I've had my Desire for about a month now and the 3g/H mobile internet has been awful since day one. I mostly use Edge or wifi because of this.

I'm hoping when HTC release 2.2 they include a fix for this, anyone think they will?

Cheers
[Desire General] dgattenb:
Look in the forum , loads of posts re 3G reception on Orange UK and other SP's.

look in your diagnostic settings !!
[Desire General] JTHM:
I have and I have.

The other posts tend to be focussing on not getting 3G reception when expected - I don't have that problem. In fact I rarely have anything but a 3G connection.

My problem is with that on 3G I get data hangs - as though the server isn't responding. First thing in the morning all is good but after a couple of hours, say around 8/8:30am, I start getting problems. The arrows in the 3G icon are showing that the phone is constantly polling the server but nothing comes back. When it does come back the 3G icon instantly jumps to an H.

Back in April, this seemed to be a problem that people were having no matter what network they were on and no matter what country they were in, but it all seems to have gone quiet since ...but I'm still having the problem.

Browsing is a bit of a pain but works, but Market and apps that don't constantly poll the data servers or time out quickly are pretty much unusable.

Something I have resorted to doing is launching the app/Market and waiting for it to fail and the RETRY button to appear, then launching the browser and refreshing the page. As soon as the H appears I long press on the HOME button, flip back to the app and hit RETRY and "POW!" everything works ...until the next time. It's a real PITA.

I'd put this down directly to a network problem but I never had this problem with my Touch HD - right up until the day I stopped using it - only on my Desire.
[Desire General] sky|ined:
Everytime I use the internet (Desire on Orange) early in the morning when most people are asleep it is supersonic so it looks to me like a network congestion problem rather than one related to the hardware of the phone. As mentioned before providers probably weren't anticipating the plethora of data hungry super phones, and the fact that all networks seem to have problems probably means that they all need to be upgraded.
[Desire General] doinbox:
I'm in UK on Orange and I haven't ever had a problem with 3g connection. Manchester area.
[Desire General] dajudge01:
I can confirm that on E-Plus network in Germany. 3G itself seems to be entirely unusable for me - only when HSDPA is available data is actually transmitted. Switching back to GSM-only solves the problem.

Any ideas where that comes from? Does upgrading to a new ROM / RadioROM help?
[Desire General] bedeabc:
Interesting. I've had these problems in Central Manchester (along Oxford Road) on both the generic ROM and the unbranded ROM, though less since switching to GSM/auto PRL. Sometimes I struggle to get and 3G/HSDPA signal, and sometimes when I do, I can't do anything with it.
[Desire General] cjensen25:
Hi guys,

I have a similiar problem with my desire too.

It would basically stop connecting to 3G until I reset the device. However, I now have the following application and widget installed:

Application: 3G only

Widget: Toggle Data

This seems to of really helped! its almost like it kicks starts the connection for you. Hope this helps
[Desire General] andy5008:
I have had a Sim-Free Desire since they first came out at the start of April - and I had a Hero before that, both on Orange - and BOTH suffered from the solid up-arrow on 3G with no connectivity (even no voice calls/texts) until the connection finally switches to HSDPA or you Airplane Mode the device and un-Airplane it again. It cuts out everything when the up arrow is solid on 3G (try calling your device or sending a text, you will see).

This happens at my place in Basingstoke, my work in Reading, my parents in Northampton, my football team's stadium in Nottingham and my sister's in Coventry. I believe though I have found a solution to the problem...

Orange at the moment, when your phone is idle, sit you on 3G or UMTS however technical you are... You only switch to HSDPA when there is network activity. This is where the connection gets 'stuck' (to put it basically) sometimes with the connection icon displaying a 3G symbol, and the up arrow flashing or solid - it is when the phone is trying to switch to HSDPA to utilise the connection. Now, sometimes I do occasionally get throughput using 3G when it cannot switch to HSDPA, but 9 times out of 10 it stops and effectively just 'Airplane Modes' the phone until it sorts itself out...

As part of my dissertation for university a few months ago, I had to obtain other SIM cards for other networks (O2 and T-Mobile) and I thought to try these out to see what happened with them...

T-Mobile did the same thing in terms of sitting on 3G waiting for usage to then switch to HSDPA... BUT very recently I have noticed that the connection now sits permanently on HSDPA, so the T-Mobile SIM does now not lockup at all. This is the same with the O2 SIM. The connection constantly sits on HSDPA... you NEVER see 3G (well obviously unless you are in a non-HSDPA area, at which point you will see 3G) - This therefore makes sure that the phone cannot get 'stuck' changing from 3G to HSDPA becuase it is on HSDPA anyway.

This '3G up-arrow' problem has only affected me since I have moved to the Android OS. I had Windows Mobile devices (please don't judge :P) for a long time before Android (pre Feb 2010) and I never had any sort of problem with 3G to HSDPA switching. I firmly believe that there is some sort of issue with the programming or the way that the radio works in Android devices, which is causing this problem.

Unless Orange start to sit on HSDPA rather than only switching to it when there is network activity, I will be switching to either O2 or T-Mobile when my contract is up in February, because they (as explained before) do sit on HSDPA even when the connection is idle, so therefore will avoid this problem.
[Desire General] cgrec92:
you make a good point but that's incorrect

i came from a HD2 (windows phone) because of this very problem

it seems to me that all the latest HTC phones have this issue (including the evo)

it seems that the iphone 4 is not alone...
[Desire General] bedeabc:
My phone does seem to work on 3G quite a lot of the time, though as described it does usually switch to HSDPA when the connection is used.

Considering I never had any issues of this sort with the iPhone on Orange, I'm amazed that so many refuse to acknowledge this problem. This problem is SO MUCH more severe than the iPhone 4 antenna fuss... which is almost completely reproducible on the Desire based on my tests.

Who knows... it could be an Android problem but my bet is that it's down to a sloppily built radio stack by HTC.

It's interesting that other networks let the Desire stay on HSDPA. Can anyone confirm if this behaviour exists with other phones?

One last thing... why is it that I really often get 'message not sent' errors even when I have 3 bars of signal? Anyone else getting this?
[Desire General] cgrec92:
i agree completely i think that it's simply poorly built

the reason we cannot stay on hsdpa and are transfered to 3g is because providers don't want idle connections clogging up their fast networks, so when we need to transfer data we are switched to the fast network and when finished we are put back, this is the case for t-mobile

some providers are nice enough to let you stay on their fast networks ;)

i also get messages not sent errors, it's ridiculous how often it happens, is fixed is you use the stock messaging app for froyo though, confirmed by me who this was a big problem for :)
[Desire General] JTHM:
...sorted?

I haven't managed to test this properly yet but since updating to Froyo my 3G/H connection has worked flawlessly.

Is this just chance? Am I in the minority? Have I just been lucky?...or is this actually fixed in Froyo?

Experiences anyone?
[Desire General] sh500:
I was hoping this to be the case but I'm still having the same problem with a froyo build on. But what I did do is restore all settings from a 2.1 backup, not sure if that reverted anything. There are no other adverse effects on anything else in doing this.
[Desire General] cyberguru:
Hi all,

I decided to do a quick search on this problem that has been bothering my Desire since I got it about a month ago. It was an O2 desire, but unlocked, so I put my Orange Sim in it, and then promptly rooted it and installed FroYo on to get rid of the branding.

I regularly get the "white up arrow" when trying to access any internet/network app. I normally hold the power button, turn the data connection off, and then back on again, but this is a massive PITFA. I also don't get stuff like updated weather for my current location, it always shows the same place and doesn't update the actual weather.

I have also had problems sending and receiving text messages, and today, a farce trying to call my wife.

Approximately 12 o clock I rang my wife, also on Orange, and it connected the call and rang, but went to answer phone. a minute later she called me back but the phone rang once and then went back to stand-by. I tried to call her and the phone went to the Dialing screen, then straight back to the phone-keypad screen. I tried it again, same thing.

Then she called me, phone rang once and then back to standby.

I decided to reboot my phone and try to call her... success... only for us to be cut off mid-conversation. But this time I could ring her straight back. She did say that when I first rang, she tried to answer the call but sliding the answer bar across just hung on the screen and didn't pick up the call (iPhone 3g), could that indicate a network issue, not being able to connect the call so her iPhone freaking out?

I hadn't tried any data connection during this hassle, but I'd put money on there not being one!

A work colleague also reported some network issues with the phone, but like most people here, isnt sure if its the phone, the network, or the remote device.

The desire has been nothing but hassle since I got it and I'm seriously considering getting shut.
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
Hi

It is more or less same here too (Sweden, Three, original/official Desire with froyo). I see 3G or H with full bars signal strength, but internet services not working. This has become an issue for last couple of days. Called Tre's tech support and asked if there was a prob with the network in my present location, the answer was "no" and i was advised to shut the phone down, remove simcard, wait 10 mins then put it back and start again. No success! Rang again the day after (yesterday) this time i was adviced to swap my simcard to someone else's phone. Did that too; put my card to one of my collegue's Galaxy-S, nothing changed. Besides, he was also suffering from same issue but was not aware. The thing is, when at home, everything is working properly as it supposed to be. Problem occurs in central locations and during the work hours. So, imho the matter is with capacity/capability of base stations. Considering with strikingly increased number of smartphones everywhere. Network operators should upgrade their networks especially in such areas. Btw.. what about 4G (!) ?
[Desire General] NeoDriver:
Just thought I would throw my experiences in. I brought an O2 branded and locked payg Desire. Unlocked it, popped in my Vodafone sim, rooted it, unbranded it and have now had about 7-8 different ROMs and radios on here. I have never had a single problem with 3G, HSDPA or the Desire itself. Just thought I would throw a good experience out there. Tends to only be the bad ones that get the press and then people assume everyone has had bad experiences =-P
[Desire General] lennshow66:
Just got this problem today:(
[Desire General] aje88:
I'm gonna chuck my 2p in here too. And I'm pretty sure it's something with the network. I've owned (on Orange) an iPhone previously and a BB 9700 and a HTC Desire. All have this problem when trying to "switch" onto HSDPA. If the handsets show 3G (or I know it's a non-HSDPA area), everything's fine. This isn't just in Cardiff, but all over.

I'm guessing this is an issue with the network? It's not an Android or HTC issue if three totally separate phones have the same issues.
[Desire General] cjensen25:
Have you tried updating the radio and using a different ROM? it does sound like you have had a streak of bad luck!
[Desire General] iLHaNroID:
Today I haven't got any issues and now I'm pretty sure that this is something with network.

However, in addition to the main issue covered by this topic i experience another problem which sounds like a device or settings related issue; each time I reboot my Desire I have to disable then enable the "mobile network" in order to let my internet connection works. Though it is active and I see 3G/H symbol next to the signal bars which are also showing full strength, when I try to use internet browser or any other app communicate through internet, they are not working until I disable/enable mobile network. Anyone else encountered same?
[Desire General] cgrec92:
i have been having this issue since early 2009 with the HD2 but never had any problems with the G1 or any other device. there was a thread for this on the HD2 forums over 600 pages long and no one found a fix, and by the end of it HTC were still denying that they were aware of the problem.

if anyone can confirm that they are having this issue on any device which isn't a HTC phone then that means that it's a phone thing in general or problems with each service provider.

the problem persists despite the service provider and phone (note that this applies only to HTC devices so far)
[Desire General] blunted09:
only thing i can think of is the radio. Im with Fido in canada (rogers) and i too have the same issues. :(
[Desire General] azuhl:
I have a UK T-Mobile Unlocked HD2. I'm using the Mdeejay Evo ROM, I also have issues with H/3G connections, just resets and can't d/l data. Other than that, I really like the ROM.
[Desire General] MattSkeet:
Same issue here. Quite often my connection hangs unexpectedly. Only up arrow is lit and no connection. Only way to restart it is to turn off/on mobile data....

Had that since.... hmmm ages.

I'm on tmobile uk

Swyped from my HTC Desire using XDA App
[Desire General] Nekromantik:
Im on Orange and get this often.

It is very annoying.
[Desire General] MattSkeet:
Got an email from htc with new connection details and so far do good no hangups...

Basically only change to the mobile data info was user name and password...
[Desire General] Becksman:
Sorry for digging up this old thread, but the problem doesn't seem to have been solved over the last half year.

Personally, I use a Desire Z. However, I am sure that this isn't really related to the phone. I had exactly the same issues with my old G1.

I even opened up a thread in the general section a few weeks ago, unfortunatley without much response.

I simply can't believe this problem hasn't been solved. It's driving me crazy. Or has it? If so, please let me know how.

I tried everything:

- New ROM

- New Radio

- Wiping

- etc.

Regards,

Becksman
[HD2 General] selund:
I have bye my HD2 in US and i need 24 hour time how can I change fra 12 hour ?
[HD2 General] turborider:
huh,what you mean,i dont understand at all,explain more

tap home screen clock-menu-12-24 hrs format,,is this what you want?
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
settings tab - menu - all settings - system - regional settings - time tab - choose HH:mm:ss
[HD2 General] Schooleydoo:
Read time - add 12 hours.
[HD2 General] selund:
Yes. Sorry for my bad English. I do my best. Yes Hovw to gange from 12-24 hrs. format. Its a tab there but no funksion
[HD2 General] selund:
Sorry my bad English. Yes the problem is how to change from 112 hour to 24 hour in the clock. Its a tab there but is not in function
[HD2 General] 10332007:
Settings > Date & Time > Checkbox for 24 hour format. Switches mine to the 24 hour time.
[HD2 General] selund:
I now But this box is not ligthed up, and i can not switch to 24 hour time
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
did you try this alternative?
[XPERIA X10 General] ethanliew92:
Does X10 have panel manager? All I've heard from X10 are timescape and mediascape.. Xperia isn't Xperia without panel manager (in my opinion)

I love the panel manager in both X1 and X2 (of course X5 is not considered) but X10?
[XPERIA X10 General] Baggyb:
No Panel manager, at least at the moment anyway.
[XPERIA X10 General] ethanliew92:
That means SE is officially abandoning Panel Manager in X10? Although it's great or fine if there will be xdadevs that can add PM in x10.. But still, never thought SE would just give up it's Xperia-ness.. :(:(
[XPERIA X10 General] Baggyb:
I think SE have made a concsious effort to revamp the xperia.

They have dropped the panels in favour of the new UX, which is basically just two apps (the scapes).

The new Mini and pro are also in the xperia range and use the scapes without the use of the panels.

I also think it's down to the OS.

The panels originated on WinMob which only had one homescreen. The panels were useful in this scenario as shortcuts and for easy access to running apps.

With the intro of android you have multiple homescreens to start with and can access an MRU list by long pressing the homebutton I don't think the panels would be as effective, It would be just more eye candy.

You can always live in the hope that they will restore them.:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] ethanliew92:
Oh thanks for telling that mate.. Really hope they'll restore it back..:):)
[XPERIA X10 General] Flamso:
Why would you even want the panels back? They were the worst part of my X1 by FAR!
[XPERIA X10 General] ethanliew92:
dunno.. But I just love the panels.. It gets better in X2.. It'll definitely gets better in X10 if they have it.

(Of course like what Baggyb said.. It's an eye candy for me.. Not that they're useful or something.. but it kinda display an elegant look for the phone.)
[XPERIA X10 General] sonus:
Panels work well with WinMo where you need complete UI replacements, and they work well on the smaller X1 and X2 screens where things like a car friendly interface are needed (On the Road Panel). But like was said above, I wouldn't want the panel face on the X10, Android is good enough, and its multiple home-screens accomplish what Panels do for the most part anyway.

I think it is very definite that Panels are not coming to the X10, or any Android phone for that matter. In fact, I think Panels as a whole are dead with WM6 as Windows Phone 7 doesn't allow for UI changes.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] crazyknallchopf:
first: sry my bad english!! :D

i used the forum search, nothing found....

i have Nexus One with CM 5.0.5.x

example:

i do rm /system/media/audio/ringtones/BIG_easy.ogg

ok its deleted...

then i go "sound and display" -> Ringtones, and the ringtone Big_easy are not deletet...

is there a list that i must edit?

thx
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cauli:
You could try rebooting after you've deleted the file & see if Android has noticed it's gone?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] crazyknallchopf:
thx this was helpful :-)
[Click General] riki28:
Does it have?? when I charge it, it appears to have green and orange LED light up there, but I can't find the settings to change its color for notifications like on other devices... :D
[Click General] Bikers:
setting - sound display - notification led is where you set the led to flash for notifications. changing the colour i don't think it's posible...
[Desire Themes and Apps] noternet:
Hi All,

Had my Desire for a couple of days now and I am well pleased. Except,

I would like to find a simple Alarm Clock app that supports

MP3 as sound

Vibrate

Snooze

And a way to turn it off :) :)

Basically, you all remember the old radio Alarm clocks everyone had, You set your time, you set your radiostation and you fell asleep.

It had a MASSIVE snooze button on top and an off button on the side.

That's what I want.

I've tried looking through market but 8 of 10 have a review saying "Does not ring at all" and well. If I see that in a review it's out straight away.

Thank yuo kindly for any help given.