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[Droid Eris Android Development] stizzelblack:
its not dont worry it should be snap crackle root ha ha............ anyways question but the bootloader if we can get it unlocked what then? off the wall question
[Droid Eris Android Development] Resun:
If the bootloader is unlocked, it allows you to flash unsigned roms.
[Droid Eris Android Development] thenestor:
If you've been through four or more of the same phone because of defects, Verizon will let you upgrade to a different phone instead because of the lemon law for electronics.

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[Droid Eris Android Development] aerdely:
Yeah, that's what I found out now that my 5 th is acting up. Didn't think they would let me goto incredible so I asked for MOTO Droid. Comes in today.

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[Droid Eris Android Development] aerdely:
Also to switch at first they wanted me to pay $289 for Certified like new. After calling both customer service and local store repeatedly. The store finally said they'd do it for free. As long as it said so on my account from what customer service noted. Customer service never said they'd do it for free but when the store checked when I got there they didn't even notice it said I should pay.

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[Droid Eris Android Development] thenestor:
Don't know if you folks saw it already, but the HTC Aria (AT&T) has now been rooted, using the same exploit as the MT3G Slide.
[Droid Eris Android Development] refthemc:
lol sigh.....
[Droid Eris Android Development] PimpShit420:
Lets hear more about this lemon law thing. I am getting my third eris in two weeks tomorrow because of trackball issues. My first eris I sent in was rooted and the second was on hboot 1.49. If my trackball goes out again I should be able to receive a free upgrade? That may be the best news I have heard yet, because a non-rooted eris really does suck compared to an rooted one.
[Droid Eris Android Development] thenestor:
It varies by state, so search for your state and "lemon law for electronics." Or just call customer service, and ask if you can switch to a different phone because of ongoing problems with this one.

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[Droid Eris Android Development] npsmith:
What exactly is wrong with the trackball? It gets dirty and wont spin anymore? I keep mine in my dirty lint-filled pocket and have had the same phone since January.

I am hoping I somehow encounter a trackball issue so I can possibly get a phone with a non 1.49s-on bootloader.

(I have noticed that I have to apply a bit more pressure to make the ball spin downward...)
[Droid Eris Android Development] fox_dye:
Hey guys I know that we all want this the easy way. But can we get back on topic please. I'm pretty sure lemon laws have nothing to do with root. Thanks

Anyone have any new developments with the adb method that was being tried last week? Or maybe with the race condition?
[Droid Eris Android Development] aerdely:
Well as far as MOTO Droid went, they sent me the wrong phone today. I got the charger, battery the back cover. But they sent the wrong phone. I have the receipt for the order though and I called them so they're supposed to overnight the right one. My luck.

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[Droid Eris Android Development] HanSolo2012:
wow man you got some bad luck

anyways could something like this be anything?

htcpedia.com /forum/ showthread.php?t=2934
[Droid Eris Android Development] thisismyanonymousaccount:
Give it a shot. You cant push to /data though. you need to push to /data/local i think.

good luck.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ericFuels999:
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2934

There's a clickable link for easier access. :)

I think you're on to something. Unless somebody comes forward who has already tried it and failed, it sounds legit.
[Droid Eris Android Development] thenestor:
To make it easier for whoever wants to test this...

1. Here is the RUU for 1.17.605.1 (which includes the 1.47 hboot): http://www.pcdphones.com/device-downloads/8-mr2-upgrade

2. Here is the mtd0.img CID generated for it: http://anyhub.net/file/mtd0.img

I think the problem you're going to encounter is here:

That would require you to already have root permission.
[Droid Eris Android Development] AcidRoot:
Well I tried and failed but I'm almost 100% sure it's because i couldn't write to /data and only to /data/local so I think you would need root permissions just to do this but if anyone has any other ideas I'd be willing to try them.
[Droid Eris Android Development] HanSolo2012:
wont work requires root

oh you guys beat me too it
[Droid Eris Android Development] npsmith:
"adb: permission denied" :mad:

Any other ideas anybody comes up with, I will gladly use my Eris as a guinea pig.
[Droid Eris Android Development] akillys:
Would it be possible to some how get the 1.49s bootloader to register a an update when you go to menu-about phone-check for updates. I don't know where we would have to drop the file our what type of file it would have to be.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ForwardTwo:
Great idea.

I really wish this idea could be further investigated. If there was a way to root Android in the same way that a PSP was rooted, by tricking the baseband into believing that the user signature was the same as the OEM signature; then using a customized loader, select the local directory of the update, and have the phone "update" as normal, to the rooted firmware.

That would be optimal, and fantastic. But, faking the signature of the OEM would be extremely hard, you would need to have a firmware dumper, which I have no experience in coding. But if you could dump the firmware, then everything would be right there for you to edit and look at. Once that's done, you can (with some searching) find the OEM signature, and replicate it into a modified ROM. This would let the phone upgrade; but doing this is easier said then done. It seems like it would be a near impossible process, and would probably take a while.
[Droid Eris Android Development] aerdely:
Well any ideas you guys have let me know, I will try because of replacement coming and doesn't matter if mine gets messed up. I'm game.

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[Droid Eris Android Development] HanSolo2012:
what ever you can do to find the exploit for the race condition window
[Droid Eris Android Development] homewmt:
Eris is not on VZW anymore...Say goodbye to the slight possibility of Froyo.
[Droid Eris Android Development] snyluc13:
Just because its not going to be sold anymore does not been that support and updates are ending as well
[Droid Eris Android Development] homewmt:
It took VZW months to update a phone that was less than a year old, then they launch 2 new android phones (plus the droid 2 is coming), and take down the eris from the website and you think we are going to more updates?
[Droid Eris Android Development] HanSolo2012:
Froyo is being worked on right now source just released

everyone else working on the eris leak

please take a look at

forum.androidspin.com / showthread.php?t=2757&page=2

and try your ideas
[Droid Eris Android Development] thisismyanonymousaccount:
Good luck guys.

This one seems to be the most promising.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ForwardTwo:
Wow! "all HTC phones"

I'm really tempted to try it :) But I don't want a bricked phone... Anyone daring enough? I'm sorry, I just don't want my phone to be totaled.
[Droid Eris Android Development] HanSolo2012:
dont follow all steps

those files dont go to our phone

we are looking just for the first few steps

we need adb to start in recovery
[Droid Eris Android Development] thisismyanonymousaccount:
no need to risk bricking you phone.

do up to step 9 and say if you get it to work. say if your device is listed in step 7.
[Droid Eris Android Development] bigwilly90210:
ok, so if i really do have nothing to lose, are you guys condoning trying this? i would totally try it here and now, but I'm actually in an orientation for my college... ha. I guess it's for computer engineering, so maybe they'll help me out, ha. Would you use their root.zip package from their page, or one that somebody else has posted for the Eris? I just want to make sure, cause i do plan on trying this if i can when i get home... thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] thisismyanonymousaccount:
Don't send any files to your phone just yet. Just do up to step 8. tell us if you can get your device recognized in step 7.

That is the first step and so far nobody has gotten it to work with an Eris to the best of my knowledge.

Be the first.
[Droid Eris Android Development] HanSolo2012:
been testing different variations last night at work right now will be testing more when i get home in about a hour

it wont harm your phone just stop after you get computer to recognize phone

You do not need to do step 8
[Droid Eris Android Development] ForwardTwo:
It doesn't show up under ADB Devices using the recovery method. I don't see how any other method could stem from this... it only looks like one defined method.

Actually, I am about to install HTC Sync, which apparently has a different ADB driver. I'm going to try it out.
[Droid Eris Android Development] dragon1018:
In DEVS we trust. Patience is a virtue so just wait dude they will get the job done:D
[Droid Eris Android Development] thisismyanonymousaccount:
Unfortunately, that is the same as what was reported before.

As far as the poster who posted in devs we trust. I fear you may be in for a looooong wait.

Anyone else willing to try up to step 8 and see if they can get it to show up in recovery.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ForwardTwo:
if someone could tell me how to uninstall the old ADB driver, that would be fantastic. Thanks!
[Droid Eris Android Development] npsmith:
Are we supposed to use the eris root PB000IMG.zip or the file they give us...
[Droid Eris Android Development] ForwardTwo:
Wait a sec, don't put anything on your phone unless all the other steps worked. You'll seriously mess things up if you don't have the ADB working.
[Droid Eris Android Development] drkow19:
Download a program called "USBDeview"

http://download.cnet.com/USBDeview/3000-2094_4-10614190.html
[Droid Eris Android Development] npsmith:
Sry... didnt realize somebody already asked that lol...

anyway I cant get the loop to run in step 4

This is the error message I keep getting

./loop.bat: line 3: GOTO: command not found
[Droid Eris Android Development] HanSolo2012:
whats it say? you type the word loop

if it dont find it make sure you have loop.bat in tools folder
[Droid Eris Android Development] npsmith:
For clarity: I'm on a mac

typing just loop or loop.sh gives a nice "no such file..."

so I tried a few commands and finally "./loop.bat" comes up with "Android Debug Bridge Version..." list of commands with above mentioned error message at the end.
[Droid Eris Android Development] lotus22:
Yeah uh... a .bat file is for Windows.
[Droid Eris Android Development] npsmith:
Oh yeah... Now I feel like an idiot...

Well I dont have any computers with Windows so I'll have to sit this one out I guess :(

...maybe I could convert it to a shell script or something...\

This is all it consists of:

:TOP

adb devices

GOTO TOP
[Droid Eris Android Development] lotus22:
npsmith- I'll PM you. I got an Eris that has leak V3 and a PC we can try it on.
[Droid Eris Android Development] drkow19:
Tried this new loop method. The page linked here says keep the phone plugged in until it registers, but there's a link to XDA (HTC Aria) that says plug the phone in and enter recovery mode on phone at the same time. I tried them both, all while the loop was running on my computer, and adb never recognizes my device. I tried with a few different memory cards too. Under USBDeview, there is a G: that shows up as connected once I'm in recovery mode, but ADB shows no connection.
[Droid Eris Android Development] npsmith:
For mac: write and save as loop.sh

while :

do

adb devices

done

It does the same thing... in case anyone cares
[Droid Eris Android Development] BrownEye02:
Ok I have tried all the steps and keep getting stuck on step 6. My phones in recovery mode and the CMD says "GOTO TOP" the next line says "adb devices List of devices attached (blank)" so I unplugged the usb cable then plugged it back in and nothing. So I went to my device manager and saw it says mass storage device is my phones driver. I tried to change the driver to the SDK driver and HTC Sync driver but nothing. I have changed the drivers several times while my phone is on just to see it that would change anything. Nothing. So I think thats our problem. When our devices are in recovery the computer is using a driver that SDK wont work with (Mass Storage Device). Or the phone isn't sending out data that SDK recognizes or understand. Or im doing it wrong. If this is the case can someone help me :) and put me on the right direction.
[Droid Eris Android Development] BrownEye02:
ok I figured it out a little bit. Instead of selecting Recovery in HBOOT I selected FastBoot. Then in device manager it popped up with android phone. YESSSSS!!!!!! :cool:

But even changing the drivers still wont let loop.bat see the phone. The phone is broadcasting right but either the phone is broadcasting different/secured way or the drivers need to be changed for loop to see the eris.
[Droid Eris Android Development] thenestor:
Have you already tried with different SD cards? Because this method requires taking advantage of a long pause while the phone is mounting the SD card, it's important to use a card that causes that pause. Take a look at this chart for successful and unsuccessful SD cards for rooting the Incredible: http://www.unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php?id=public:sdcard_data_charts

From the same site, here's a basic primer that I think is easier to follow:

http://www.unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php?id=public:adb_in_recovery

As said before, the part that hasn't been successful yet on the Eris is the very first thing: Launching ADB in recovery.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rycheme:
I put in for my refurb today (50% signal bug and silent bug). The Verizon rep was swearing up and down that he had never heard of it, but then conceded when he looked in the Product Issues Log.

Let's keep our fingers crossed that it's still 1.47, although I'm not holding my breath since it's a 'like new' replacement.
[Droid Eris Android Development] AcidRoot:
I'm pretty sure its posts like these that make the devs mad. Personally I am patiently waiting as upgraded to the leak as well. Just chill and keep checking the forums and if they find a way to root or downgrade the leak they will tell us.

BTW: jcase if you need some one to test something on the leak v2 I will.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
Root was given to us, anyone taking claim for it (besides caboose) is an ass. I haven't seen anyone I would consider a dev take claim for root, besides the one person who should be able to.

I don't mind questions, and i respond to (almost) every email/PM i get, if i want it or not. Now if you want the rude as hell PMs/emails I get, give me your email address and I will gladly forward them to you, and you can deal with them.

I have no holier attitude, I have an attitude of "if you demand it, you wont get it from me."

If someone doesn't like my attitude, shove it. I am tired of the attitude I get on a daily basis, when I am doing this for nothing but fun.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Marisa:
I think the devs are totally in the right to get angry about people asking the same stupid questions over and over. If people learned to search for their own answers, instead of wasting dev time, there would probably be less of this "holier than thou" attitude you seem to think is going on.

It's understood that leakers want root, it's pretty obvious that jcase didn't just pull this potential solution out of thin air, this is something he's been working on.

Telling devs that if they don't feel like being bombarded with stupid questions they should stop posting things is exactly the wrong way to get things done.
[Droid Eris Android Development] listyb01:
Well the best and brightest have once again manged to get off topic and start a ***** fest. Time to request this thread be closed as it is a waste of time to read at this point.

How did VZW manage to market the Eris to the world's most intellectual group of people?
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
Nice, glad I'm not one of the people with an Eris in my hand. Your post specifically is the most off topic one in the thread.

Still looking for leak v1 users to try new method.
[Droid Eris Android Development] mib12890:
any luck on getting it tested?
[Droid Eris Android Development] j1000:
Does the newly released desire root help any of us leaked 2.1 eris user I don't know anything about android so I'm just asking. Thanks
[Droid Eris Android Development] mib12890:
It could, I believe some are working on it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] BlazinDANDAMAN:
I am someone that was duped by the money factor to get the Eris over the Droid. When 2.1 came out here, I jumped in right away. 2.1 was the whole reason for me getting the Eris.

Seeing what having Root access does, and the various ROMs that have come out...I feel left out like others. I am now patiently waiting for Root on the v2 leak. I am also willing to donate to the team or Dev who does this. I appreciate their knowledge and work that would be put into doing this, and have no prob paying for it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punkxdead:
I'm still running 2.1 v1 Leak. Never had any real problems, not enough to motivate me to move to 2.1 v2 leak. Still leaps ahead in speed of the original 1.5.

I appreciate all the work that has been done, and even tho missing out on initial root, I've been patiently watching the community and waiting for another chance or 2.1 official from VZW.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
Failed. Will try myself on an eris this weekend.
[Droid Eris Android Development] edgeupgx:
Figured it is no longer needed but I am running 2.1 v1 leak so any more guinea pigs needed on 2.1 v1 im down.
[Droid Eris Android Development] TDianna:
So am I, you guys are the BOMB!
[Droid Eris Android Development] anom69:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...ire-rooting-guide-now-with-a2sd-radio-update/

Has any of the devs checked out Pauls HUGE readme?
[Droid Eris Android Development] mib12890:
I'm sure they have. I believe some have been in contact with him, so it's a safe bet yes.
[Droid Eris Android Development] anom69:
Ok cool, i was just checking.. Hopefully we can get leak v1 and v2 rooted :X
[Droid Eris Android Development] mib12890:
Yes, you and me both.
[Droid Eris Android Development] xr4v3nx:
Uhhh.. Wait, leak v1 and v2? What's the difference? o-o
[Droid Eris Android Development] BrownEye02:
Thanks Ill try these new instructions
[Droid Eris Android Development] jvward:
You have to modify a file in the tools folder to get ADB to be able to see the eris.

I jcase post this a little while back in the android_winusb.inf file:

under [Google.NTx86] has to be added:

; HTC Eris

%SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C98

%CompositeAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C98&MI_01

under [Google.NTamd64] has to be added:

; HTC Eris

%SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C98

%CompositeAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C98&MI_01
[Droid Eris Android Development] HanSolo2012:
wow thanks! really needed that
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoovnick:
jvward,

Even after adding that to the file, when I tell it where to find the file, it finds it, then tells me the device cannot start, after it installs the driver. Did I do something wrong here? Oh, Windows XP by the way.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jvward:
no idea man lol I just thought it may help
[Droid Eris Android Development] homewmt:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/06/android-hack-attack-all-htc-androids-rooted/

According to this post all htc androids can be rooted using the my touch 3G slide Root method, I doubt this is true but I haven't tried it so it's a possibility

Also pulling the sd card allows devices to be seen more reliably through adb

In my opinion the best way to root this is to learn from other rooted htc androids, and the things they tried
[Droid Eris Android Development] HanSolo2012:
lol thanks for the input man think thats what we are all trying to do its what we been discussing on the last 3 pages of this thread
[Droid Eris Android Development] homewmt:
I know that's what we've been discussing, Thats why I linked to it, because it's relevant.
[Droid Eris Android Development] devlp1213:
hey guys been following for a while but first time posting, i've been trying the loop method also and i'm jus not gettin nothing from it. I changed the android_usb and whatnot and i'm not even seeing it for a second =P anyone else been trying and got any thoughts on trying something different?

Things i've tried:

:have phone on and reboot to recovery from shell and instantly start of the loop

- done this with 8gb class 2, 2gb (not sure on class), and no sd card with no sucess

:different timings when starting the recovery and plugging the usb into the computer

:taking out sd as recovery starts up and vise-versa

jus random things i can think of =P
[Droid Eris Android Development] drkow19:
Well the guy who used this method to root the Aria says he's got a 16 gb SD card and he kept it in the whole time. I watched the video of the person doing it to the Slide and he's got his cable plugged in the whole time, and as soon as he boots recovery the damn thing shows up.

Can we get some dev's (or people who know more about the drivers and why adb doesn't work in recovery mode) to comment on this? Is there some obvious reason that the Eris won't work, when the originators say it works on all HTC devices?
[Droid Eris Android Development] mattv3090:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys.

Quoted from Eugene373 over at AndroidSpin

"@Everyone..

If the Device was Release with 1.5, then this will never work, as your Phone was updated 2.1.. The Reason I stated 2.1 Devices is due to the New Recovery that is ship on the new Device's..

It might work, but I wouldn't be 100% sure it will.. Just FYI"
[Droid Eris Android Development] listyb01:
Yea it was pretty much looking like this was not working out for us. Once again, the Eris remains as the ONLY Android device that has not been rooted.
[Droid Eris Android Development] drkow19:
hhhhh tttttt ccccccccc!!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Stonent:
I wonder if the speed of the PC has anything to do with it? If a PC is faster it has more chances of catching the phone at the right moment since it is flying through adb devices faster.

Or perhaps fire off multiple sessions of the loop file in different terminal windows?

Also I think the guys who are rooting the MT3GS should post driver information.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Stonent:
Whaddya talking about... Mine's been rooted since April. :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] npsmith:
What about the Devour
[Droid Eris Android Development] Stonent:
Devours don't count as real android devices :p

I would think maybe a combination of Cliq + Droid rooting methods, but just a guess.