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[Desire General] Datafanatic:
I totally agree. I believe the OP is just commenting on the fact that he has a few niggles which, if he cannot sort out, he may revert to his previous phone.

Would you still say he was being aggressive if he said 'i will revert to my HD2'? Maybe, maybe not.

I happen to agree, as my previous phone was an iphone, couldn't wait to get my hands on the Desire, and have felt massively disappointed with the overall experience.

I love Android, and the way it sits nicely between the flexibility of WinMo and the 'just works' of the iphone OS, so i don't think it's Android that has proven to be the weak point in my case.

It may sound silly, but it even boils down to the design of the handset as well. I always feel like i'm going to drop the phone. When i hold the iphone, it sits snug and safe in my hands, but the Desire is a different kettle of fish. Whether it's the slightly rubberised coating of the back, or the slimness, or even the slightly angled sides...something doesn't 'feel' right, and the phone wants to slide out of my hands! Try it, a few of my friends have even commented. Also, while i'm having a bit of a nag, the power button...just feels unnatural in that position (maybe because i'm right handed, but it seems a bit of a stretch).

SenseUI is a wonderful thing, but i feel that they/it tries to overload you with too much at once. Some people may like that, others not...would be interesting to see how many ex-iphone owners would agree with that.

So, getting back to the original post, yes i feel the same, the phone has a few niggles that cause me problems (not the same issues as the OP), and i'm very tempted to go back to using my iPhone.

Might try the Xperia X10, i know the hardware isn't on spec to the Desire (damn close though)...if not, it's the iPhone HD for me (and no, i am not an apple fanboy, just love the simplicity of the iphone - which is the only apple product i own!)

Regards

DF
[Desire General] supasye:
datafanatic could u please tell us what it is you do not like about the desire? apart from the ugliness/ feeling its gonna drop/ and sense overload?

thanks.
[Desire General] jm997:
Hey DF,

I'd like to hear a more complete list of what you don't like about the Desire (especially vs your old iPhone 3gs). Could you elaborate on that?
[Desire General] daesimps:
DF,

Thanks - you hit the nail on the head. I'm not an Apple fan and have been really trying to get away from them, but at the end of the day I've always returned to the iPhone as it's the only thing that's ticked all the boxes.

I've decided I'm going to keep the Desire and use the iPhone for my media playback - as though it's an iPod.

I know what you mean about feeling disappointed. I had high hopes for the Desire and was looking forward to ditching Apple.

supasye/jm997 - Here are my list of niggles:-

* Media playback doesn't play back dual audio tracks for videos and can't show lyrics embedded into MP3 files. I've also noticed that if you go into the "Genre" view it only displays a standard list. For example, I have a load of tunes in Spanish and to help distinguish them in our media library they have a Genre of "Spanish". The Desire doesn't seem to understand this and shows them as "unknown genre".

* Volume from headphone jack is too low. I use a pillow speaker and whilst the iPhone was too loud the Desire is not quite loud enough even on max.

* Activesync. Doesn't show up Exchange managed folders.

* Battery. It's not very good although I hope it improves. I've set mail to sync every hour and turned all the others (e.g. twitter/facebook etc.) down to every 12 hours.

* Keyboard. It's very good, but the auto text correction doesn't always show on screen, for example in the search box in the Market app.

* Calendar. You can't set appointments to be free/busy/out of office etc. when you create them on the phone.

* Bluetooth. It's 2010 and it doesn't do voice dial, which I acknowledge is an Android thing and not a Desire thing. This is a major problem for the wife. Her Parrot car kit can do it if you send contacts to the kit and use it to record the voice tags. Unfortunately there is a compatibility issue and the Desire won't send contacts via bluetooth to the kit as it claims the kit doesn't support the push profile (which it does and works with all our other phones).

Overall I am happy enough to keep the phone, but disappointed. The speed, screen and overall interface are absolutely brilliant.

HTC are known for their business phones and I've had them for probably knocking on the last 10 years. Unfortunately I think there's too many business related issues (Activesync, bluetooth, calendar) for this to work as a business phone. However, given that the media playback isn't spot on, I can't see many people choosing it as a media phone given it's shortcomings in this area.

Dae.
[HD2 General] RoN_HD2:
I've just installed the above as I wanted access to the BBC-iplayer, through my phone, on my travels. However, while the buffering rate and smooth playing is achievable through WiFi, through 3g the player is horrendous. Ok, the buffering speeds seemed quite adequate but the playback is absolutely terrible. Very choppy playback and poor sound quality and also re-buffering issues. The thing is I'm not always going to have access to WiFi as I travel around quite often in my job.

I was wondering if anyone had any advice on this subject or could point me in another direction regarding being able to view iplayer through the HD2?

Thx for any help.
[HD2 General] RoN_HD2:
Anyone please?
[HD2 General] AshleyNG2:
looking for advice on this too !
[HD2 General] bikerguy:
I didn't think O2 allowed datastreaming of iplayer on 3g(only over wi-fi). Only Vodafone & 3 allow this at present.
[HD2 General] the_rascal:
What I do is choose the iPlayer programmes that I want while I am at home on my wi-fi. The iPlayer lets you download and save most of their content to your phone. You can do this by touching the "i" next to the programme name and a download will begin.

Once you've downloaded and saved it on your SD card you can play it back at any time you want in superb quality without any buffering or interference at all.

Hope this helps.
[HD2 General] RoN_HD2:
Thank you, I will try this.

Much appreciated.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] ai6908:
I will try to keep up with this post, the official ROMS get released.

For now, lets use the link from conflipper. Big thanks to him for having his collection available to us.

http://www.shipped-roms.com/shipped/RhodiumW/

I will post most mirrors for shipped ROMS soon.

Sprint WM6.1 with Sense 2.1

Sprint WM6.5 with Sense 2.5

Verizon WM6.1 ROM 1.88

Verizon WM6.1 ROM 1.87

Verizon WM6.5 ROM 2.23

US Cellular WM6.1?? ROM 2.18

Telus WM6.1?? ROM 1.92

Let me know if your carrier is missing, and I will try to find it for you.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] stephen240:
Does anyone have an apk that will fix the "brokeness" of flan lockscreen if you remove the stock htc one? I've removed it on damages 2.0 roms and still messed up. But somehow it worked on his 1.0 build. If anyone knows shout up! Thanks!

Oh and yes I know there's lockbot, but last time I used it, it really didn't work for me.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] daryelv:
Did you try searching?

Already being discussed here... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=655469
[Android Themes] totorip:
I cant find any please help
[Android Themes] Ace42:
None of these themes are for the N1, you need to goto the N1 section or goto modaco's forum for the bar....And alldroid too.
[Android Themes] totorip:
found one, works great
[Android Themes] Lahdekorpi:
URL please :)
[Android Themes] MANTISxB:
There are lots of Nexus One themes in here...

Ex: Darkstar 2.0, Celadon, and many others.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Jay321:
im looking for a really nice security or lock screen app
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] slapshot30:
A really cool one I am currently using is called throttlelock. It doesn't use numbers, it uses little dots and a pattern that you set. Google "throttlelock" and the throttleapps website should come up and you can download it from there. Plus it's very easy to make youre own skins. The one I just made uses little nikebaseball logos as the dots. I really suggest checking this out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] att_htc_tilt2:
Yes I agree Throttle Lock is perfect I been using it for almost 2yrs. now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] carrot01208:
I think AppLock will help. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] iridium21:
Does anyone know of any VirtualBox Android Emulator that has Marketplace?

Thanks!

Oh, I forgot to add "that's free" and not the $50 that some cheeky bastards are trying to charge for a thing called AndroidVM!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] attn1:
Android doesn't just load up and run on a PC. It's a source code project that a real developer has to spend time porting from platform to platform, unless you want to run it from a runtime built from the SDK. To do that requires an underlying OS, like Windows, Linux a MAC - something capable of running the SDK.

Since, VMware is emulating a PC, then in order to run as a real virtual machine, android needs to be pretty much ported to a PC. Since Android is built on a Linux kernel, it's not impossible, but geese - why? That said, it's bound to show up on an Intel compatible tablet at some point, if it hasn't already.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] iridium21:
I'm already running Android under Virtualbox - I just wondered if there's a version for VB that has Marketplace.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FloatingFatMan:
Wow. So much complete and utter wrong in one post... I've been running Android under a virtual machine for quite a while...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Wekkel:
There is an x86 version of Android available at androidx86.org

It will definitely run under Virtual Box or any other virtualization software package. It's Android 1.6 by the way, and you will have to perform some geek-like activities to simulate an SD-card to install appz.

Big question is whether an ARM-device version of Android would work in a normal VM emulator (not talking about Bochs and stuff).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] attn1:
Well, since I hadn't heard of a port to x86, I was certainly wrong about that, which makes the rest of the post moot, but not wrong. In any event, I stand corrected.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hvc123:
sorry to add a flame of any kind but this

"Since, VMware is emulating a PC, then in order to run as a real virtual machine, android needs to be pretty much ported to a PC. Since Android is built on a Linux kernel, it's not impossible, but geese - why? That said, it's bound to show up on an Intel compatible tablet at some point, if it hasn't already."

is totally wrong.

Virtual machines virtualise the hardware of your machine (bad explanation I KNOW). if you have a PowerPC you can only emulate PowerPC (Mac for those that dont know) and intel/amd chips are things like x86 then theres smaller devices like ARM. my point is that if you have a Intel/amd box you can only emulate x86 O/S. however if you have a netbook with a version of linux or windows built on arm arch then u could prob get away with the original android if you are running normal x86 then u require android that has been built from source on x86.

this made me laugh

"Since Android is built on a Linux kernel, it's not impossible"

all i can say is what??

anyway back to the point... to run android on a x86 box u need x86 android
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] the_fish:
The problem with getting the Market to work is simply that the GApps are currently only available in a compiled for ARM version. period. that's the answer you wanted to hear i guess.

@others: stop OTing please...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] attn1:
VMware and Virtualbox emulate PC hardware. Since Android runs on a Linux kernel, and Linux was originally developed for an x86 PC, it follows that a port of Android could be done for a PC. Since this was not a generic discussion about virtual machines but a specific discussion about PC emulation, I don't see where the argument is.

PC = x86 and it's successors. You said I was totally wrong and then pretty much made my case. The only point I missed is that the work had already been done. To run Android in a x86 (PC) VM, you'll need an X86 (PC) compatible version of Android - right - what I said.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] iridium21:
Right... Ok, now does anyone know the answer to the original question?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ruqqq:
OP should read your thread. :P
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] iridium21:
I have :)

Supposedly, these guys have Android

with

Marketplace for VirtualBox:

http://www.androidvm.com/home

So it must be able to be done - the only problem is that it's $49.95! :eek:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zgornz:
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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] attn1:
I imagine it would be a mess to get a touch screen working in android running on an emulator.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] civicvx94:
I read reviews on androidx86 booted (not emulated) on a few netbooks that ran great and very responsive..I also read one on a touch screen comp that worked fine..they claim all apps work-minus gapps obviously.

I plan on trying this on my Toshiba nb205 netbook today and can post a review if anyone is interested..

Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Wekkel:
A review would sure be appreciated. More knowledge is always better.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] civicvx94:
Just a quick follow up, I tried out the Androidx86 on my netbook this weekend, both booted off the usb and installed on the hd..it runs..nothing spectacular and slightly dissappointing. You still only have a 4x4 screen and the Marketplace is entirely different, very small selection of "blah" apps..none of my favorite android apps anyways-facebook,twitter,gmail..not really any widgets either. Lastly, you need to use an external mouse..the touchpad just moves the background but gives you no pointer (could be a hardware compatability issue tho)..

On the positive side, the internet was very fast and resume time was almost instantanious..not really any major bugs, just nothing too special..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] a-c:
This method works with 1.6 as originally described here:

link-> xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=529170

I got it to run with the signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-img-14721.zip image from HTC for the developer phone.

link-> developer.htc.com/adp.html

I replaced the android-sdk-windows\add-ons\google_apis-4_r02\images\system.img with the one from the signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-img-14721.zip

(you should backup the original system.ini)

I then used the Android SDK GUI interface to create a Google API Level 4 machine.

I did not need to install the marketenabler.apk, as described in the original thread.

It boots up like a new Dev Phone, it behaves like there is a valid SIM and working data connection.

CTRL-F11 rotates the screen (slide out keyboard).

I have only installed a few free apps (K9 mail) but they seem to work fine.

I can't post links so copy, and paste them.

It would be trivial to create an Ubuntu virtual machine and then install the Android SDK inside of it and modify the system.img. Installing the SDK on your own machine probably takes less space and resources then running it inside another VM.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] RobRedbeard:
Updated, not corrected.

Yes, you were absolutely correct except for being out of date, because that process you described has already taken place as others have now pointed out.

To the person who said he was wrong, actually, no.

Android as it stands on the phone, is an ARM system compiled in ARM machine code. Android apps are hardware/platform agnostic but the operating system is not, it does have to be ported and recompiled for any different hardware system. That being said, it seems that most of that work is finished, ala androidx86.org

Cheers,

Rob
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dougsanti:
x86 Android Market

I have been reading a bit. It seems that it is possible to have Gapps installed for x86.

Froyo, people have been using Cyanogen 6 Gapps for Tegra.

Android x86 launched their Gingerbread version not long ago. It would not surprise me if Cyanogen 7 Gapps worked with it. Different devices used different versions and now there is just one version for all. It should be possible to run VM from the desktop.

NDK dependent Apps: in theory, it may be possible taking the apk using android apk tool, x86 NDK from the x86 build and rebuild it for x86 code.

I will be playing with an old EEE900 and see how this goes sooon.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DimensionSlider:
I managed to successfuly run gapps on android-x86

night generic x86 2.3.5 works fine with gapps from 21.06.2011(http://goo-inside.me/gapps)

But i dont see half of all apps.

Tried to edit build.prop with differenct fingerprints, no use.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Anna Sinclair 610:
Android x86 look at that i found it works fine
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] crazymike1234:
Just received an email with the Vlingo beta apk. I have not tried it yet but since this forum has helped me a ton, I figured I might be able to return the favor. Below are the instructions directly from the email:

Installing Vlingo for Android

1. Check the Unknown Sources item in Settings > Applications

This is required since Vlingo is not yet in the Android Market

Unknown apps screen

2. Open the Browser and browse to *********

NOTE: Please do not share this link with anyone else

3. When the file is finished downloading click on it and then click the Install button

4. Click the Open button when you see the Application Installed message

Add Vlingo to your Home Screen

1. Press and hold in an empty space on your home screen

2. Click Widgets (or sometimes it will be called Android Widgets)

Pick widget

3. Scroll down and click Vlingo

Add Vlingo to your keyboard

Speak anywhere you can type

1. Open Settings > Language & Keyboard

2. Check Vlingo Keyboard

Enable keyboard

3. Press and hold in any text box on your phone and click Input Method

4. Click on Vlingo Keyboard

Setup keyboard

5. You can now press the microphone icon (Speak button) to speak to any text box.

Known Issues

* Vlingo requires Android version 2.0 or higher to work

* While Vlingo should work on most Android 2.0+ devices, Vlingo has only been fully tested on the Google Nexus One and the Verizon Droid
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jpeepers:
Thanks!

This is a really great App. I really missed not having this when I switched over from the iphone.

.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] dmc971989:
you are aware that the default AOSP keyboard has this option right? as well as the newest HTC ime keyboard?, and the latest better keyboard?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] durhamite:
Yeah, the default keyboard does do text to type, but Vlingo lets you open apps, call people and a lot more stuff. It is pretty cool.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jpeepers:
The Vlingo voice recognition seems to work better and faster then the stock stuff.

What I really like is the voice search widget, it works really well. You can use commands like "find wal mart in Denver Colorado" and it will give you all the results on a map with details and you can call etc.

Works better then the other apps available IMO.

.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] subliminalurge:
The voice search that's built into the navigator app does that as well. I can say "Navigate to Wal Mart", it brings me up a list of Wal Marts in the area, and fires up google navigation to guide me there. It's also location aware, so if I simply do a voice search on "Marriott", it brings up the google result for the nearest Marriott hotel to my current location.

Another cool little app is Choice Dialer. It's very good at voice dialing, but it also lets you do things like "Schedule an event for next Wednesday at 2 PM", or "Play music by Motley Crue"....

Definitely going to give this app a try. It'll take A LOT to get me to give up Swype as my regular keyboard.

Regardless of whether I end up using this particular app or not, with all the laws being passed about cell phone use while driving, voice recognition is no longer just a "neat toy", it's becoming a necessity. So I applaud anyone and everyone who is working to advance the state of the art in this field.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Ceger:
I have not been able to install it. They don't specify if there is an Android version requirement, which I am guessing there is. I am running 1.5.

Ceger
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] subliminalurge:
Says right in the OP that it requires Android 2.0 or higher.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Sefferdog:
+1 to that. I love Swype. Best app I have dled by far!
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] subliminalurge:
Finally got a chance to play around with this app this morning.

Observations so far... The keyboard seems pretty good, although I won't be replacing Swype with it. Voice accuracy seems solid. It doesn't handle "Navigate to" very well. If I say "Navigate to Wal Mart" it just brings up nearby wal marts in google maps. On the built in voice search, it fires up navigation and handles the request properly. Given that this is still a beta, it could be that they just haven't tweaked it to take advantage of Android's capabilities yet.

Seems about the same speed as google's voice search.

But now the deal breaker. I've been getting frequent "unable to connect to server" errors this morning. I've verified that my data connection is working fine. This may be a beta, but they have versions for other handsets that are in production, so the beta thing is no excuse for their servers being down.

All things considered, this seems like a solid effort, but I don't see where it brings very many advantages to the table in comparison to the built in voice search. And if their servers aren't reliable, I can't really justify putting it into daily use no matter how good it is.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] keyofhappy:
swype keyboard for life, but this vlingo could go somewhere, my only problem is, it didnt give me the widget.

i uninstalled and re-installed. nothing.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] subliminalurge:
That's odd. The widget's working fine for me.

In truth, it doesn't really add much. You can get nearly the same result by just putting the app icon on your home screen. The widget does eliminate one extra button press, but for some unknown reason they made it 4 spaces wide.

Not enough functionality to justify losing that much screen real estate, IMHO.

EDIT: Ah, you can set it to come up when you long press the search button. Accomplishes the same thing as the widget, and doesn't use up 4 spaces on your screen.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] subliminalurge:
Ooh, another annoyance...

They use yahoo rather than google for searches. No place to change it in the settings.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] subliminalurge:
Another observation...

Google's voice recognition cuts me off after a fairly short time. Vlingo has let me compose some pretty lengthy emails all at one shot, whereas creating the same message with the stock voice recognition required me to do it in 4 or 5 chunks.

This almost makes writing email on my phone easier than my desktop with the full sized keyboard. :)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Negrito:
Do you have to be using it as the keyboard, or can it be used as a stand alone talk to text, or for opening programs and what not?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] crazymike1234:
You do not have to use the keyboard part of it. Everything else will work just the same without using its keyboard.

Mike
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] regaw_leinad:
lol nice

10chars
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] crazymike1234:
Hey...It said do not share the link. It didn't say anything about the file :)

Mike