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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jdwrrzmm:
Reflash to stock ROM (and radio), relock SPL, and then let your cellular provider deal with the return. I just went through the same thing with T-Mobile and it couldn't have been easier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] schwalbach:
How do I relock SPL?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fone_fanatic:
read through this hard spl thread to return to stock, then go to this at&t device support page scroll down and select your state then find the nearest one. take your device there, and if there's no apparent physical damage on your device, they'll exchange it with a refurbished one on the spot.
[Hero CDMA General] BAttitude7689:
So I was just reading about, Froyo 2.5 will this ever be available for the HERO or would that most likely be on the upcoming EVO?

I was reading about some of the features including the "Portable App Engine"

Using the new Portable App Engine, Android will now be able to run Palm Pre and iPhone applications using a virtual machine.

While the Pre only has about 2,000 applications, Apple’s iPhone is currently the industry leader with 150,000+. iPhone’s best games are very desirable to non-iPhone owners, for example, as they generally offer superior graphics and level of gameplay, that is, until Froyo comes out.

Portable App Engine is a "20%" project started by 2 Google engineers – Joseph Smarr and Ikai Lan – and got its name from Google’s flagship App Engine.

Google is notorious for allowing their engineers to work 20% of their time (1 day a week) developing their own ideas and releasing the most ingenious ones to the public. For example, Gmail, Google News, Orkut, Google Talk, and Google Sky Map were all "20%" projects

Any news When this is becoming available? Or if there is any dev out there with and leaks?
[Hero CDMA General] VinceOB:
Seriously? We dont even have 2.1 yet. What makes you think 2.5 will be out any time soon??
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Wasnt this an April fools joke?
[Hero CDMA General] danknee:
I think the Hero will get FroYo eventually, like 8 months after every other phone does. By then, I will be at least two handsets away from the Hero.

I do happen to have a few Google engineers on speed dial though, let me give them a ring.
[Hero CDMA General] BAttitude7689:
were getting 2.1 we know that, I was just reading about 2.5. I dont think its a joke type in Android 2.5 in google and I was just reading some facts about it and it seems insane that you could run ALL the apps from the iPhone and from the Palm Pre
[Hero CDMA General] danknee:
Yes the Portable app Engine was for April Fools.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...d-2-5-froyo-rom-and-upcoming-features-leaked/
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Yeah, thats what I thought.
[Hero CDMA General] BAttitude7689:
that sucks!!! lol that sounded pretty DAMN cool thing to be able to do that lol
[Hero CDMA General] Archon810:
Lmao, I almost feel bad for not putting up a "this is an April fools joke" note on that page. Almost. :p
[Hero CDMA General] sandeepji_choudhary:
check out this ... android 2.5's Portable App Engine is not a April fool!!!

check this:mobi-solutions.blogspot.com/2010/04/two-powerful-blasts-of-excitements-real.html
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
FroYo = Android 2.2 not 2.5. It really doesn't matter.

Our phones probably won't handle the app engine any way since everything seems to be going snapdragon. I would like to see a Android Tegra phone my self. but thats besides the point.
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
wouldnt a virtual app engine running iphone apps somehow be illegal? i dont think apple would let that happen.

that link you posted seemed pretty bogus to me.
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
also, everyone is aware apple released the sdk for the ipad, right?

aint no stoppin the jockin
[Hero CDMA General] danknee:
It was an April Fools joke...
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
i am fully aware of this, topeka thought theyd be funny.
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
i cant stop watching your dancing android

make him to the mocarena(sp?)!!!!!
[Hero CDMA General] illogic6:
You, sir, are correct. I've heard from reliable sources that 2.2 is in it's testing stage. Also, someone posted pictures on 4chan of a HTC Magic running Froyo.

I'd normally be very skeptical about anything I hear on 4chan, but these look legit. From what I've read, they're going to slow Android core updates to a crawl now that the OS has reached maturity. They are going to put all the Google apps in the market starting with this release. (ie Dialer, Music, Youtube, Gmail etc etc) That'll allow them to update those components individually so people using certain devices won't get stuck using old software for an unreasonable amount of time. *cough*

This'll help reduce the fragmentation issues that have plagued the platform from the get-go.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
I saw these pictures, but never really realized they where from a Magic. Looks like we could possibly run 2.2, but again that portable app engine seems like it wouldn't work well on our phones. Java's mantra of "Write once, run anywhere" doesn't take in to affect the performance of the host machine. Google could prove me wrong, they have before.
[Hero CDMA General] IndoSlim:
What's the download?

OK... so I went to the android police site about froyo. It absolutely sounds way out there, but what is the download they're linking to? Anyone download it to see what it is? I'm kinda scared to thinking that it'll pop up a virus or something but I don't think android police would do that. Would they? Anyone try it?
[Hero CDMA General] illogic6:
It has been tried. Haykuro uploaded it as an April Fool's joke if I remember correctly. I've downloaded it and it looked to be an 80mb junk file.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Link me, Ill download it.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Found the leak. Not sure if it's legit, but Sophos doesn't find any virus in it.

It's here if anyone wants to look at whats inside.

Link in side the zip redirects to a Wiki of April Fools day, must be an old file from a few weeks back....sadly no FroYo here.
[HD2 General] Wishmaster2:
Just to let you know:

For all the users in Europe, the HD2 with Android seems to be the only chance to get some kind of a light version of the "HTC EVO 4G". In fact, there wouldn't be that much difference.

The Motorola Milestone (= your "Droid") has not only a signed bootloader wich only accepts signed images, it also has a hughe bug in audio quality.

And the Desire (= 99% your Nexus one) has a crappy screen! (due to the Pentile Matrix of the AMOLED Display)

Alternatives? NO! At least nothing in the "Nexus class".

Android on the HD2 would not only be a "geek hack" or just "fun". It would be something awesome and insane, no other product or money could give you (at least in Europe, where we might never see the EVO 4G)

I and a big bunch of other users here, "over the pond", really, really hope, the XDA Devs will make it!

My honest respect and good luck to all the Devs who might bring a second Christmas Day into 2010 with Android on the HD2.
[HD2 General] audscott:
This is not limited to the fine folks on the other side of the pond. I'm in the states with an HD2 (duh) on T-Mo. Not to say T-mo is the end all beat all, buy I really don't wan't to go Sprint. Nothing against the Sprint network, as my professional experience shows it's as good if not superior to T-Mo in my area of travel.

Still, I would love to have an android device that's fully functional. And since I have not the technical where-with-all, I rely, as usual, on the brains here at XDA.
[HD2 General] alldino:
oh god... please dont say its not that much of a diffrense... thats the most retarded **** to say.. first of all. if u dont have a hd2 why the **** would u be asking for android all over the place.. and that proves that obviouslly u can't just go buy another 600 dollar phone right?? so its alot of diffrense... The android coming out on hd2 as another phone doesnt do ****.. its just retarded, it just makes most hd2 users feel sick to their stomach that they are stuck with the piece of **** winmo os
[HD2 General] Demon_man:
these threads are just annoying, its not on the hd2 yet, maybe one day, you had 14 days with most networks to return the phone and change it a android phone, yeah be cool if it comes in hd2 if it doesnt so what!!! same with WP7 if either of them cone cool.
[HD2 General] lude219:
Just to let you know:

the majority of the HD2 owners don't give a damn about android on the HD2. It'll be a cool novelty idea when it'll come to fruition, but other than that, it's nothing to bust your nut over.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
Exactly, most people who bought the HD2 bought it because it's a WinMo phone. That's how most smartphone users pick their phone... by what os it runs. Why would you buy a WinMo device if you didn't want a WinMo device? If you bought it just for the big screen or fast processor, you're impatient and dumb.... there will be phones just as fast with just as big screens for android soon enough. Even the next iphone will have a processor just as fast and have a higher-resolution screen (although, not quite as big).
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I don't understand what you're saying. You responded to this thread that's been dead for 2 weeks to argue with the op.... but you're stating that winmo is a piece of ****, so wouldn't you agree with the op as he is stating he wants android on the HD2. What am I missing? And most HD2 users are quite happy with WinMo.... why else would they have bought a HD2, a WinMo device. And why did you buy it if you think WinMo is a piece of ****?
[HD2 General] Wishmaster2:
alldino, I think you didn't get me!

I don't own a HD2. I have a Milestone (US=Droid) and a Desire (US=Nexus).

The Milestone has a big bug in speech quality, the Desire has a crappy screen.

So there is actually no device with "perfect hardware".

The HD2 does have a great hardware, but WinMo - and I want Android!

and btw. there is NOT much difference between the HD2 and the EVO 4G!

"Just" a higher MP cam, HDMI and more RAM and ROM as far as I know off-hand now.
[HD2 General] ephestione:
this will be my one and only reply in an "android on hd2" thread (not including the one that, one day, will officially announce android for hd2 :p)

IMVHO, if something "linux-ish" has to be ported to HD2, it would be extremely silly that it was android. Android!=linux, linux>>android

Android comes from linux, but it's so underdeveloped and sectorialized that it retains just a little bit resemblance with the flexibility of proper linux.

I am really counting on the fact that something like meego will come to the HD2.

Luckily, as soon as it will be possible to port android, it will always be possible to port meego/moblin/maemo to it.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I, too, look forward to the linux kernel port being completed and seeing the different os's that get ported. Meego would be awesome... I haven't had an opportunity to play with it, unfortunately, so a port to the HD2 would provide me that opportunity. I'd also like to see Ubuntu on the HD2. Android will be nice because of the variety of apps it will open the HD2 up to, but I wouldn't use android full-time. But thats why I love the idea of using haret to boot the linux kernel... I get to keep winmo as my main phone os, but can boot up a linux os when I want to.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I'm sure there will be some Android phone released in europe in the next few months that have as good of specs as the HD2. Definitely by the time there is a functional android port for the HD2, there will be Android phones that are comparable.
[HD2 General] pa49:
Any chance you could tone down the language?
[HD2 General] ronzogonzo:
I personally bought the Hd2 simply because the hardware is just awesome. Never used Winmobile before so I really didn't know what to expect and quite frankly I don't think it's as stable as the Iphone I sold to get the Hd2. Does that bother me? Nope, not a bit. To me, the tweaking and modding, hacking etc... that's the fun part. Android? I say, bring it on! The more I can modify and tweak and hack, that makes me a happy camper!

I, unfortunately, also don't have the expertise to write the coding to do these marvelous things so I'm also waiting patiently for some of the supergeeks,(and I mean that with the utmost respect), to come up with these solutions and programs so that I can run whatever OS that's available for my new toy. I say, the more choices I have, the more fun I'll have! ;)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] aweb31:
The XDA keyboard is great an all, but I've really loved the AOSP Keyboard on the older DarchLegend roms. I don't see it on any of his new roms, and i can't find an .apk for it.

I've searched for awhile, no luck. Anyone know where it's at?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jaredakelly:
are you talking about the OEM android keyboard? if so then i second that. i'd love to find out how to get the keyboard back. i hate the htc keyboard with a passion
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] aweb31:
Yeah. The HTC keyboard, and our version of it, arent great. I also find them very laggy at times; I have to type very slowly and deliberately, which isn't cool.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Decad3nce:
This should work, just flash from recovery.

http://www.mediafire.com/?qjymjydmw0m

EDIT: Works with latest Sprint Leak, but also works with old Legend leak.

So try it on the new :)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] aweb31:
Perfect, thanks!
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] aggreyj:
So I flashed this keyboard and it shows up under my Keyboard settings but the HTC Keyboard still shows up when I want to type. Is there something I'm missing? I'm using a flashed version of the Sprint 2.1 leak.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jaredakelly:
dude thank you!!! i was so sick of the htc keyboard. very big help! how did you do that by the way? i want to be able to do this for some htc apps that i dont have

yeah just long press any input box, select input method, select android keyboard
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] aggreyj:
Awesome, thanks a bunch. I've only had the phone for a week. Learn something new every day hehe
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Leon H:
I tried out this keyboard, and it's no faster than the HTC keyboard. Swype seems like the only input method that isn't ridiculously laggy on this phone.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jaredakelly:
actually it's a lot less laggy and much more accurate.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Leon H:
Not in my experience. With the sound and vibration off, it's just as fast as the sense keyboard with sound and vibration off, same goes for them both on. Also, it keeps giving me nonsensical autocorrections. It tries to correct common words like "an" to "Android".
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jaredakelly:
to each it's own i guess.

this keyboard makes my life a lot easier

what i'm really interested in is how to do it for future apps?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] KBizzle:
It seems that alot of cooks are cooking in the XDA Sense keyboard and I have found it extremely laggy. Glad I found this to install. Thanks.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Sina702:
When I installed the AOSP keyboard, the a and l both have gaps on the side of them and are transparent, is there any way to fix this?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] coldsweat:
Using the keyboard in Darchdroid has made me like my phone again. The HTC keyboard is so painfully laggy its mindnumbing. The stock Android keyboard is instant and accurate, love it.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] bob2300nx:
Same here. I have been using it for awhile and I like it alot more. The keys are smaller which as I get more accurate I have found I can type faster than on the htc keyboard.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loblaw:
Since I've got DropBear and SSH on my Hero (MCR 3.2) I thought I'd try to remove APK-files via SSH, instead of using the USB-connection. I've successfully managed to connect to my phone, both via PuTTY and ConnectBot, but whenever I try to remove something from /system I get a message saying it's a read-only file system. :confused: What am I doing wrong? I should be able to perform what I've described above, right?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adwinp:
remount /system as rw
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eddie1506:
/system is by default read only, even for root.

Execute this in shell to remount it as read/write

mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loblaw:
I'm guessing that line is similar to "adb remount"?

Is it something I have to execute each time I wan't to make changes in the /system-folder?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eddie1506:
Yes, you can execute it through adb with "adb shell ...". I guess you have to execute it after reboot, I'm not really sure.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cauli:
/system will stay mounted read/write until you reboot or remount to read only, however I'd always either reboot or remount it read only as soon as I was finished making changes, to be safe & avoid any accidental modifications/deletions. Also, yes, adb remount is just a quicker way to execute the same (or very similar) command.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loblaw:
Okay, so mount -o rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system for mount and remount -o rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system for remount, right?

Btw, what does mtdblock3 contain?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cauli:
Last question first: /system ;) System contains most of the operating system.

mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

&

mount -o remount,ro -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

to mount system read/write & read-only respectively. You might not need the '-t yaffs2' option which tells it what format the partition is, as it should auto detect the type, however the above should be most reliable.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loblaw:
Okay, but what are the differences between the above and executing mount -o remount,rw (-t yaffs2) /system and mount -o remount,ro (-t yaffs2) /system, leaving the /dev/block/mtdblock3-part out?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cauli:
remount isn't a command of itself (if you're using adb, adb remount is, so perhaps this is the source of that misapprehension) so that line above simply wouldn't do anything.

As to missing out the /dev/block/mtdblock3, aiui, in this case the mount command will attempt to infer the block device associated with the given mount point (ie with /system). Usually I think it relies on a config file /etc/fstab to do this, but that is often not present in Android ROMs (it seems to be absent from MCR 3.2 for one). In this particular case it works because the remount option implies it must use the device currently mounted at that mount point.

Essentially, you can often keep the command simple by missing out various parts, but if you have any kind of problem with it executing it's worthwhile specifying everything in case that is the cause of your problem. HTH
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
fyi:

$ adb shell cat /proc/mtd
dev: size erasesize name
mtd0: 00040000 00020000 "misc"
mtd1: 00500000 00020000 "recovery"
mtd2: 00280000 00020000 "boot"
mtd3: 0aa00000 00020000 "system"
mtd4: 08200000 00020000 "cache"
mtd5: 0a5c0000 00020000 "userdata"
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loblaw:
Ah, it was a typo. Should've been "mount" and not "remount", just as you pointed out.

Thank you for the explanation! And to you too, kendong2.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
Am I the only one? I feel lonely.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
Only one for what? If you have a vogue through USC I'm sure it will work. Android roms do not require specific carrier cabs like Winmo.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
Oh - sorry. I meant that I am running it. Myn's RLS4 installed to NAND. Works like a dream. I just wanted to see if there were any other people out there actually on U.S. Cellular and Android.

The only problem I'm having is GPS. I've got the updated radio and the latest .nbh installed but I can't get the GPS to work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
Are you trying via google maps? Sometime unchecking the google location sharing options in settings helps with gps locks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
Yes I'm trying via google maps. I also have the gps test app. I just tried unchecking the location share settings. Still no dice.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
Are you getting the gps icon in the status bar when using google maps.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
yes I am getting a flashing icon.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrono:
U.S. Cellular likely either doesn't support aGPS or it isn't configured correctly
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
Can I adjust configuration setttings? I'm guessing not easily if at all.

Is anyone running GPS successfully on Android from with U.S. Cellular?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jester87:
I'm also running Myns warm donut android on my 6900 on USCC with the 3.42 radio and I still cant get GPS to work
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
Yeah i'm using the Bell 3.42.50 radio and it's still not working.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] caquito07:
Do you guys have internet access and MMS? I don't have access
[Touch CDMA Android Development] piperthedj:
you are not alone sir. granted i am not NAND yet, there are still things i need but i run android better than 75% of the time. have been since about week one on my touch. keep faith sir. we shall not fail.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Fasst1:
I'm running nand on my uscc vogue and everything works flawlessly......of course I don't have gps on my vogue.. My vogue from uscc is not equipped with gps
[Touch CDMA Android Development] polecat409:
That's what you think! I'm running Myns Warm Donut RLS 4, radio v3.42.50, on my Vogue with USCC and my GPS works. It takes a a few to maybe ten minutes for me to get a lock on my position, but then I can watch my location in Google Maps and even get Google Navigator to give me directions.

Install GPS Test (free version, from Chartcross Limited) from the Market. Let it run until it gives you a GPS position lock, THEN run Google Maps/Navigator. Works for me every time.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
Yup all vogues have the GPS hardware. Some of the us carriers (verizon, uscc) locked down gps so we would have to use there specific "navigator" type programs and they could make a few bucks on the sly.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] piperthedj:
i have had great success using GPS with google maps. heed to make sure the correct port is being used and that you are using manual configuration. itll take about 10 mins to get a lock, but itll work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
That's great news guys. Thanks for the replies. I'm trying out GPS test right now. Is there a way to configure ports/options while in android?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
Still couldn't get it to work. I let it sit for a loooong time. Any other ideas?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] caquito07:
what do I have to do to make the internet work?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
I never had a problem getting my data to work. Although i did *228 update and all of a sudden I started getting 3G instead of Edge. Woohoo.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] caquito07:
Will try that! Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] crackeyes:
I have a touch on USCC and have flashed mine to Nand and have not incountered any issues. I am running the .50 radio and GPS works for me. only thing I can not do is MMS but thats not a big deal to me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
How long does it usually take you to get a lock?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] crackeyes:
a good 10 minutes the first time and les than a minute the following
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dosesdoyle:
I flashed the 3.42.5 radio again, and waited a loooong time with GPS test running and still couldn't get a lock. I was inside though. I'm going to try it outside next time.