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[XPERIA X10 General] OwLOwLOwL:
More investigation

Hi!

I also have this power issue...

Sometimes the phone drains less than 1% / hour.. and sometimes 9% / hour...

Yesterday I enabled: BT and GPS.. Then I rebooted.

And then checked the drainage for 5 hours.... (did not use the phone, except I turned the screen on each 30min to check the battery percentage).. It used less than 1% battery / hour... Great!..

I suspected there was something wrong with the WiFi, so I turned on the Wifi (using the widget on the home-screen) connected to a router, surfed a couple of pages, and then turned off WiFi again (using the widget). Dang! Now the battery drainage bumped to 9% / hour... with WiFi off! ... I need to test some more, but there seems to definately be something wrong with the WiFi-chip... it seems as if it does not go down to power-save after use...

I also noticed that there seems to be something wierd with the widget turning on/off WiFi... Sometimes, when I start WiFi using the widget, it does not connect to my router unless I go into WiFi settings, then it connects immediately...

Next test is to test WiFi again, but turning on/off using the settings instead of the widget!

During all tests above I had everything on except WiFi (BT, GPS, Gmail sync, Google calendar sync.. But I have not configured Moxier, so that is off I think.)

It was definately WiFi that started the drainage last night.... It even consumed battery (at least 4-5% / hour) while in flight-mode!

Regards // OwL
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
Yes! I have the exact same problem too, I mentioned that a few posts back that got me so annoyed that I decided to factory reset it, which seems to have fixed it. I tried all I know to fix the issue, but in the end I gave up and reset the whole thing.

Just to report that my X10 has lost 6% charge in the last 4 hours. During the time I switched on the Wifi a few times, woke up the X10 a few times etc. Still Ok I guess. I was excited about it staying at 65% charge through out my 6 hour sleep, but it's starting to drain the battery again now, but not as much as before (4% per hour!)
[XPERIA X10 General] uayxela:
Just got my X10 on Monday and had it fully charged before disconnecting the charger.

The battery dropped to 80% over 10.5 hours. This approximately equates to an average 1.9% per hour. In that 10.5 hour period, I called a friend for a 20mins conversation, sent 4 emails (Total 45mins) and surfed the net for 30mins.

I got to say, my last phone (X1) had the similar problem with battery drain, but compared to the X10, the X10 appears to be holding pretty well.

Note: Moxier was not configured, I used google sync.
[XPERIA X10 General] OwLOwLOwL:
Sounds as ok power usage.... Did you use WiFi doing stuff?
[XPERIA X10 General] Moominking:
Hi, quick question

I just sent a few text messages, that is it, in doing so I accessed messages and phonebook.

Before I sent them - programs running:

Settings

Messaging

Task Killer

After I had sent them:

Settings

Maps

Moxier Mail

Email

Playnow

Timescape

Messaging

Task Killer

Hmmm, why did Maps, Moxier Mail, Email, Playnow open? I guess Timescape is connected to messaging?

Maps and Playnow..... Qee?
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
Update: Charge just dropped 5% in the last hour while in sleep mode. All settings as before; WiFi/BT/GPS/AutoSync all turned off and set to GSM only. Been using TaskPanel to kill some stuff, including Moxier.

All settings have been the same as before. I really don't get this...
[XPERIA X10 General] uayxela:
I tried WiFi briefly to set up the connection to my router after disconnecting the X10 from the charger for convenience. I probably spent about 10 - 20 minutes fiddling with the settings, then I gave up and went to bed because the X10 wasn't detecting the signal for some reason. But I can sort that out tonight.
[XPERIA X10 General] MobileBritain:
Battery life on the X10 has been improving since I originally got the phone (probably due to battery conditioning), but last night I made a major step forward. I killed the time and calendar widgets that were running on the homepage. From 11pm last night to 11am this morning battery has gone from 41% to 28%.
[XPERIA X10 General] Flamso:
My phone has also gotten A LOT better! But it's not battery conditioning. The battery from my old X1 has gotten A LOT better as well! :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] Veeger:
Been having the same problem as you guys and nothing seems to be working for me. I did however get in contact with SE help centre who took forever to reply with this:-

"Dear John,

Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson support centre.

We are sorry to hear of the issues you are having with battery performance on the Sony Ericsson X10.

You can check on the handset what is taking up the battery life by following the steps below:

1. Go into Settings

2. Select About Phone, and Battery Usage

3. This shows you what is using up your battery life.

The Sony Ericsson X10 does have a large display and has many applications that require internet access thast may contribute in your battery life not lasting as long as previous handsets.

However, if you feel that your batterys performance is very poor and think it could be a fault with your handset we would recommend returning it to your point of sale.

The Sony Ericsson X10 is currently running on Android version 1.6. We do not have an exact date of when it will be, however, we are to release the updated version 2.1 for the handset in the very near future. We are yet to confirm wether or not this will improve the battery life but it may be something that is considered.

Should you require furthere assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind Regards,

Gaynor Gray

Sony Ericsson UK Customer Services"

Now other than the mention of 2.1 it's pretty much the same as the other responces i've read on this post so i've sent them back this reply and will post asny updates as and when they occur.

"Hi - I'm afraid that your response isn't much help.

I'm very familiar with the settings and such like, and also have additional apps downloaded now so that I can see where all my battery life is going (in more detail than the standard battery monitor)..

For the record it says the Cell standby is using most of the battery up.

I'm fairly sure that there is a problem with something in the software on the X10.. not sure if it's the SE overlay or base android 1.6 issue... something is definitely stopping the phone from going into sleep mode - even with all of the connectivity turned off... the battery is still draining.. and it's not just me.. There are loads of comments on the various Xperia blogs about this issue...

I'm hoping for some support from the maker of the handset which I have invested heavily in.. and not to have to go out to all the blogs to search out possible causes and fixes for myself.

My phone is also unable to connect to sony erricsson sync. I have followed all the steps available with one majoy flaw, When i go inot "settings", "data synchronization", "select sync application" the only choice i have is google and so i'm stuck as the trouble shoot says to select sony sync from there. I'm currently on Vodafone in the UK and running "finware version 1.6", "Baseband version 1.0.14" "Build number R1FA014"

Any further help with either of these issues would be a great help, thanks.

Kind Regards

John Murchie"

*Note - I would just like to thank im_iceman as i borrowed the basis of his reply as a template for my own.
[XPERIA X10 General] sungrad:
lol nice to see that at least sony ericsson are standardising their responses...
[XPERIA X10 General] Moominking:
has anyone tried to ring them:

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I am at work so can not do this otherwise I would, seems a special number for Xperia?
[XPERIA X10 General] saltorio:
Hey guys, I came across this post by Dem regarding battery life over on the Phandroid.com forums. Thought you might be interested:
[XPERIA X10 General] StampedChipmunk:
Just to list my experiences:

Got phone last Wednesday - poor battery life (like 5 hours with surfing, downloading apps and general playing).

Turned off Wifi - made a difference , but nothing stellar, adding about an hour, but not much more.

Read a lot of forums, partly to learn more about Android and assorted Apps.

Downloaded the free version of Juice Defender, which made much more of a difference, battery started to be a bit more useful, making approximately 8 hours.

Decided I'd cocked something up during the setup, I reset the phone back to Factory Defaults (Settings > SD Card & phone Storage > Factory Reset).

Set Display Brightness (Settings > Sound & Display > Brightness) to about 20% and turned off Automatic. Made no discernible diff to me.

Set Screen Timeout (Settings > Sound & Display > Screen Timeout) to 15 seconds (this is actually too short IMO, but I was aiming for the max at the time. Have since adjusted it back to 30 seconds).

Turned off WiFi (I have problems with it seeing my network anyway, so no biggie for me)

Set Sync settings (Settings > Data Synchronisation) to Manual (turn off Auto sync)

Changed the Update frequency (Settings > Online Service Accounts > {ServiceName} > Update Automatically) of all my services to Every Hour

Installed JuiceDefender and JuicePlotter.

Installed Advanced Task Manager.

Job done.

Result:

Today with the above settings and GPS on (not Bluetooth) battery has dropped to 79% remaining in 8 hours. Timescape fired up every couple of hours, but not major usage to be sure, but plenty useable.

I figure Wifi is the biggest culprit, but it doesn't appear in the Battery Usage stat in the phone. however Moxier, which I don't use, is also a hefty user of battery and I believe is enabled by default, so it is active. The Factory Reset I think turns off Moxier and so long as you don't touch it, it won't appear again.

I also have the ATM widget on my home page and dab it every now and again to kill all active apps - it's amazing how many are killed each time...

Hope this all Helps...
[XPERIA X10 General] Jksukino:
so how much did your battery improve after that?

i also use ultimate juice and improved my battery life also but not as much is i've hoped.

i also found an app (useful switchers) which helps me turn on of 3g connections and keeps my display at 22% brightness.

ive also turned wi-fi off but gps on.

and all the sync's on manual

all this got me to 12h of battery life with normal use but today i found out that google talk was automatically online so turning it off now and going to look at the improvement tomorrow.

moxier is still bugging me thinking that thats the biggest problem for now.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Think my sim card packed in today... can't get a signal, and when I do a network search on the phone it can find O2, Orange and T-Mobile... but not my network.. Vodafone... Called Voda and they're sending me a new sim.. so I'll let you all know what it does to my phone performance and battery etc... Due on Friday... 3 days with no phone.. How will I cope!
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
my phone was using about 7% an hour this morning with 3G off and GSM/GPRS on... switched it to 3G only at lunch time and it stopped using battery almost completely... and I did a bit of surfing and made a couple of call too... I'm starting to think that there isn't a pattern to any of this... anyone know Chaos Theory??
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
Was just thinking about trying out WCDMA only mode. My X10 has been completely discharged for the 3rd time (or 4th...), now recharging it to full. I've set WCDMA only mode, we'll see how it goes once it reaches 100% and I unplug it.
[XPERIA X10 General] StampedChipmunk:
Okay, further results from today.

Phone was at 100% charge when I left the house at 8a.m. this morning. It's now 9p.m. and the phone is reporting 45% left, though this has taken a hit since 7 as I've had the wifi on. When I turned the wifi on the phone was reporting 56% left.

Using less than 50% of it's battery in 11 hours is close to what my wife iPhone does, though she does have wifi on all day too. I am expecting this performance to improve as the battery beds in a bit more.

I noticed a near instant improvement in battery life after the Factory reset (like within a couple of hours or so) and I have my suspicions about Moxier based on other people's comments in this forum. Otherwise I don't think I've done anything particularly clever - I'm an Android n00b.

Am curious about the brightness control though. Since turning it down to about 20% I've not noticed the screen being any harder to read and it still turns off and on like it should. We all know that screen brightness is a battery killer, but the default Automatic setting didn't seem to do anything. Anyone got any ideas?

S.
[XPERIA X10 General] Jksukino:
the brightness is almost not noticeable which is nice unless you hold it in sunlight en then you'll see the big difference ;)

which makes it an amazing screen but i've come to the thought of just turning it to the normal settings because its only on when you use it which wouldn't make such a hit on the battery.
[XPERIA X10 General] vizier3:
Update:

Almost 60 hours now from my last full charge and the battery still have 29%. This is getting better.

My settings:

1) Wifi always on - but set the Wifi sleep policy as switch off when the screen is off.

2) Network Mode as GSM only

3) MMS & Data switch off when at home and only switch it on in office - about 9 hours a day switch on

4) GPS, BT and sync all switch off and moxier i'm assuming as as disabled as well because never configure it

Didn't download any task killer because don't want to accidentally kill some critical processes.. hahaha

Btw, try to charge your battery only when the it is fully drained phone switch off by itself. Read somewhere that it is better this way.
[XPERIA X10 General] TheDarkRealm:
Similar battery performance here, lasts less than 8 hoiurs when in normal use, I have hard reset it but I need Moxier to syncronise with my exchange server, it would be useless having a phone that had no contacts in, and I'm not entering them in manually...

I hate this device, its both one of the most impressive phones and the most usless phones Ive ever owned

We need the 2.1 update, it will make Moxier redundant!
[XPERIA X10 General] StampedChipmunk:
@The Dark realm

have you tried syncing from Outlook to Googlemail? You can then use the Google Sync option on the X10 and import all of your contacts.

See here for Google sync: http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=89955
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Turns out that it wasn't my SIM card (although I will still let them send a new one anyway!) I swapped sims with my wife's phone and the problem stayed with the handset.. so before I phoned Vodafone for a new one though I'd try a factory reset.... nothing to lose.. the phone's back!.. lets see how the battery copes now..
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
spoke to soon... it's dead again..
[XPERIA X10 General] sungrad:
lol that just plain sucks :s

have you tried your SIM card in your wife's phone?

if neither worked in your phone, but after the factory reset they did... did you do something in the last half hour (since resetting the phone) that could have triggered some setting in the phone?

i've no idea really, i'm just putting ideas out there :)
[XPERIA X10 General] telnet05:
Mine is looking better and better. It's the 6th time i charged it and after 14 hours of normal use it's down only 12%. I have disabled all the syncing and i use the task manager killer.
[XPERIA X10 General] dubdec99:
On third charge

Have disabled GPS, WiFi, bluetooth, location & data use and all syncing - just use them as i need them

network mode - GSM only

screen timeout - 30 secs

screen brightness down to minimum

using advanced task killer from market to manually kill all apps when i access the phone initially

moxier not configured

Phone used for calls, txts, downloading apps, wisepilot for 25 mins - Battery level 62% after more than 24hrs, happy enough with that
[XPERIA X10 General] aceguy:
well what can i say, GREAT phone, but the battery, OMG...

i have had the phone for 8 days, ive been pulling my hair out... turing this off that off....

yesterday i left for work had 98% battery... in 5 hours i checked my phone and OMG battery @ 33% and its been idle for them 5 hours...

on usage screen.... Cell radio using 58%... so i thought i had to do a reset (last option)...

after reset OMG phoned wife for 15 mins, check some messaages and the battery had not moved for 3 hours :) usually i wake up in the morning and have to plug my phone is coz its dead (completely flat)... but this mornin, woa...

its showing i got more battery than when i left it... so :) :) :) :) ...

when i got my phone and turned it on within 30 mins i had the update to .16 so my experience with .14 is 0.. but i think that after you get the update you may need to reset your phone... something doesnt update correctly.. ;)

so i will continue to add apps, and keep u posted as to any changes...
[XPERIA X10 General] sungrad:
I've had this phone two weeks now, charged it from completely empty (i.e. phone turns itself off) to full every night... but not last night.

I charged the phone full, and left it alone overnight for exactly 8 hours, and this is what I found...

2:08am 100%

10:08am 92%

Usage:

Cell Standby: 49%

Phone Idle: 49%

SNS: 2%

Settings:

Network Mode: GSM/WCDMA Preferred (NB: I was in a 2/3 bar 3G area)

Timescape/Facebook Sync: 15 minute intervals (NB: over 500 "friends" so pleanty of work for the sync to do)

Google Mail Sync: On (NB: received 10 emails)

Google Sync (Calendar and Contacts): Auto Sync (NB: 3 calendars and 6 groups)

TasKiller: Auto-Kill when screen off

Wifi: Off

GPS: On (NB: but no apps were using this)

BlueTooth: Off

Applications Running:

com.sonyericsson.learningclient

com.sonyericsson.android.timescape.pluginmanager.framework.application:provider

Calendar

Touch Input

Timescape(TM) Provider

com.sonyericsson.android.bootinfo:remote

com.google.android.apps.maps.FriendService

com.google.android.apps.m4ps.FriendService

SNS Cache Provider

Timescape(TM) Plug-in Manager

Sticky Note

Where's My Droid

Handcent SMS

JuiceDefender (NB: This was not enabled however)

SNS Provider

Settings

TasKiller

Timescape(TM)

So considering all those apps were running, and syncing, only 8% was used. Going to use the phone as normal today and see how long I get out of it.

Will keep you updated.

P.S. Thanks to everyone else who's posted their experiences with their batteries over the last two weeks, that helped me decide how to test mine last night :)
[XPERIA X10 General] sidneylopsides:
done a hard reset today. reinstalled apps etching, then had It in my pocket for a couple of hours, it stayed at 31%.

been playing around some more and down to 28%. its doing much better than before so far.

Sent from my X10i using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[XPERIA X10 General] Belazor:
I also did a hard reset, using the following settings:

* WDCMA Only

* WiFi On - Turn off when screen goes off

* No automatic synchronisation with any of the built-in supported services (including GMail)

* WiFi network placement Off

* (A)GPS On

* GPS sharing with Google for search results Off

Apps of note are:

* Process Manager + Widget

* JuiceDefender w/ UltimateJuice

* JuicePlotter

Now what struck me was that this seemed to have little to no effect. Not only did Moxier still load up, but battery drain was still rather bad.

I tried disabling email syncing in K-9 Mail but I was still receiving email!? The hell...

Some googling later and I found out that this is because K-9 Mail supports Push mail. Okay, what's that then?

Turns out that's basically your phone keeping the mail server informed of its IP Address / 3G address at all times, so that instant email notification is possible.

I'm sure we all like to stay connected, but we don't need to stay that connected :p

In other words, having Push mail support enabled basically renders the "Folder poll check frequency" setting 100% Useless.

I would suggest you remove your mail account(s), and re-create them with Manual setup and pay explicit attention to the last page (past Outgoing Mail settings) and uncheck Push there.

There appears to be no way of changing this setting once the account has been created!

I'll post back once I've done a complete discharge again to re-calibrate the battery meter, but I believe this did the trick for me.
[XPERIA X10 General] madmartymcfly:
hard reset

Hi,

Sorry, may be a stupid question but how do you do a hard reset?

Thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] Veeger:
Settings > SD card & phone storage > Factory data reset

Hope this helps :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Lcrkz0023:
Im not sure what to take on this battery issue. Mine battery is great. On a full 100% charge with no activity, just in sleep standby mode I can go 4+ hrs before it goes to 99%. Ive tried this serveral times early in the morning. My normal day consist of me being at work from 8am-5pm. While at work, im either listening to stream music or uploaded music of my own for most of the day til bout 3pm. During that time I would receive and send out about 150-200 or so texts or IMs and A little web surfing, checking emails , a phone call here and there. I get home about 6pm, my phone would be between 75-65%. While at home, I still text and surf the web( on forums, etc) on it til bout 9 or 10pm. While surfing web im on 3G not using wifi, and I dont use bluetooth or nothing during the day. I use timescape and only have Gmail and FB syncing. By the end of the night im around 55-45%. Im pretty much satisfied with my battery life, Im constantly on my phone. I do use task killer app, and thats pretty much it. So I dont know what to make of it. Maybe some of you have bad batteries or they are not fully conditioned yet. But then again, im not a heavy bluetooth or wifi user. Only time I use bluetooth is the bluetooth hands free in my car, and Im not in my car much during the week.

My wife charges hers every 2 days..but shes not nearly as active as me. She just surf web, messaging, IMs, and Gmail sync. She doesnt FB, use bluetooth, or wifi.

We've had both device since 3/29...so maybe give it some time and maybe it'll get better.
[XPERIA X10 General] Veeger:
Well I've had my X10i for just over a week and the batery isn't all that great. Seems to be some mixed reviews though, some people are fine and getting a phenominal amount of time out of it and some getting barely a few hours.

I've currently got juicedefender on and although i can't be 100% accurate i'm fairly certain it's helping out.

Generally reading what you guys have got to say and your problems and solutions is helping and it's also re-assuring to know i'm not the only one. I'm certain together we can nail this problem guys because other than that i'm loving the Xperia 10i :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Manthess:
I made a test last night.

WiFi off

GPS off

Data and MMS off

Bluetooth off

GSM only

all apps killed except for Alarm Clock

After 6 hours in stand-by mode my battery dropped by 30%. That's 5% per hour. Isn't it too much? If it is, how should I solve the problem? (maybe it is somewhere in this thread, but by now it is too huge to find, probably, it would be good idea to put solutions into the first post)

Thanks in advance

Manthess
[XPERIA X10 General] Jksukino:
@lcrkz0023

do you use ultimate task killer? and auto kill every 15 min?

because i don't use wifi and bluetooth except on some few occasions.