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[XPERIA X10 General] shingers5:
well i work within the mobile industry and a total discharge is recommended every now and then regardless of type of battery. the short of it is lets say you charge every day at 30% back to 100% - whats happens to that 30% of battery life that was left? does it retain the charge and give you a fully charged battery or are you getting a battery with 70% charge? to ensure that you battery and cells are at optimum performance a full discharge is recommended every so often. this will ensure that all the cells get re enegergised so full battery performance is received and prolonged battery life! i never take for gospel what is written in manuals or post on tech blogs, i go from my own user exp and those of consumers! it works!
[XPERIA X10 General] x10owner:
I've experienced a huge improvement by using juicedefender and Process Manager. It's like a new phone now :D The battery easly last for 24h with normal use (calls, wifi when I access internet, SMS and so on)

I haven't tried to figure out what made the difference, but I can see how juicedefender turning off APN and killing a lot of unnecessary apps with Process Manager might help.

I have Moxier mail configured but rarely turn on push mail.

Now I feel that I can recommend this phone to my friends again. Of course this shouldn't be a problem in the first place, but I just love the phone. And with an expected battery life it's just awesome!
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
I wasn't using much of my X10 during this week, nor has it been rebooted, and I have managed 142 hours of up time with 5% battery left. Please be noted that most of the phone's wireless features are off (WiFi, GPS, 3G Data), but I kept the 2G/3G network on. I've received a couple of calls, listened to about 5 hours of music trhough Bluetooth.

Don't whine about "What's the point of having a smartphone if you have the wireless features off", I just happened to switch those off and see how long can my X10 last. Here are a couple of pics for those who "demand proof"
[XPERIA X10 General] orochiguyver:
After messing about with my second x10 for a week, the battery on it is SLIGHTLY better than my first but not much. I have actually not installed any task killers this time, and tested putting it into flight mode over night- I was shocked by the results!

When in flight mode (all wireless signals off inc mobile network), the x10 went down by 2% over 8 hours! Clearly the majority of the battery drain is from the 3G power management - this had better be what SE are tweaking in the upcoming tweak update! Next to this it was always the face recognition process that was heating my batt with my first x10.

Is there an app that allows for a one tap toggle between 2G and 3G modes? I dont think I can be bothered or remember to keep going into settings every night to toggle...
[XPERIA X10 General] :
I continue with my stadistics using Helix Launcher

My general use and info:

Number of desktop: 5

Widgets: SE Clock, TimeScape, Weather & Toggle Widget, Quick settings, Process Manager, Battery Status

3G: Full time on with google sync (calendar, contacts and email)

+ Wifi: Mostly off [Today: 15 minutes surfing the web]

GPS: Mostly off

Bluetooth: About four hours per day [Today: zero hours]

+ Camera: seven pictures

+ Call time: 1 hour and 14 minutes

+ SMS R/S: 3/2

+ eMails R/S: 1/2

Free memory > 77 Mb

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Tested for: 1 day and 15 minutes - Drained battery: 76%
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
@shadowflare - Where's the menu option to give you the image in your first screen shot? or Is it an app? Don't think I've seen that screen before! I agree that it seems like the 3G chip isn't going into standby properly, except when Wifi is on and connected to a router... I don't currently get 3G in my house so the phone sleeps properly.. but when I'm in an area where I do have a 3G signal it doesn't sleep properly and the drain continues even when the phone isn't being used.. so.. I've switched 3G off, and will toggle it back on when I need it.. I've got a shortcut on my screen which takes me to the network settings screen.. so it's not perfect but it save a few key presses. I've a feeling that Juice Defender or Ultimate juice may have come with a 3G toggle widget.. not 100% sure though since I removed it a while ago.
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
@im_iceman: Oh that's an app called Battery Indicator. Doesn't need a widget or anything and sits nicely at the top with small memory footprint.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
I just d/l that app... it's neat.. I like..!
[XPERIA X10 General] ennx:
The phone has the worst battery life of any phone I've ever used, and I've used a lot of phones. I called Sony Ericsson, and they sent me a new battery. I don't anticipate any improvement. As far as updates are concerned it appears to be the fourth quarter of the year. I don't keep phones that long.
[XPERIA X10 General] orochiguyver:
Following on from the overnight on flight mode test, I tried my x10 on standby with wifi on - seems like there is a bug where it seems to actually drain less with wifi on - I presume this is the thing about the phone not going to sleep mode without wifi on that some members have posted about?

However, its still too much of a drain while its sat there doing nothing but connected to the network.

Does anyone know when the update is meant to be released or are we going by this tentative "Next few weeks line" fromt he SE blog a week or two ago?
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Have you set your wifi sleep policy to "sleep when screen goes off"?.. Think you need to do that..
[XPERIA X10 General] orochiguyver:
Yep, its always been on that )it was on that setting by default on mine). I think my urban residence is causing for node signal shifts contributing to my drain on top of all of this. :-/

The Juice Plotter graphs showed the drain on full 3G WITH Wifi on (sleep with screen off but enabled on phone) drained about 30% less than when wifi is off. So odd. Must be the 3G/Wifi radio chip not sleeping?
[XPERIA X10 General] jasim20002001:
i would like to knw does the back of X10 heats up like the X1 after using wifi or watching movie for like half - 1hr????
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
Mine has wifi on non stop doing sync & co and i have no problem with heating.

No idea about movies.
[XPERIA X10 General] jowlhome:
Kudos - Help is at hand

I like many of you love my Xperia X10, in fact i think it is possibly the best phone i have ever owned, except of course battery life stinks !

This may not work for everyone but i found two key solutions to extending battery life:

1) Buy a Mugen Power 1800mAh battery as a replacement for the puny original

2) Install the Juice Defender App - this does a brillian job of reducing power consumption especially on Cell Standby when the phone is not on use.

After the first couple of charges of the new battery with Juice defender installed, i achieved over 1 day and 19 hours between charges before the battery went flat which i have a photo of to prove. I even kept Bluetooth enabled and run the screen at maximum brightness.
[XPERIA X10 General] cashaw:
I give up trying to understand how this phone uses it's battery !

I have had the phone for over a month and after the first couple of weeks I achieved over 30+ hours between charging... No problems !

For the past couple of days I have actually been using the X10 less than normal and suddenly it's been down to 13 hours usage from a full charge....GRR!!!

Within the space of 2 hours this evening I watched the phone drop from a 30% charge to 0% whilst it wasn't doing anything (except switching on to check the current battery level !)

I really hope this next firmware update fixes this, I am sure this fault has to be software and not hardware related....
[XPERIA X10 General] orochiguyver:
Yep, sounds about right. Some days last much longer than other, though I have never had over 18 hours on one charge. Today it came off charge at 3.30 and already its down by 65% with light useage.
[XPERIA X10 General] tonyibrahim:
How to improve the SE XPERIA X10 Battery life

When i first got my x10 the battery life would do no more than 12 hours. I then disabled all gps option, data sharing options, minimised the amount of times it would check facebook and other social network sites, removes fb from timescape (made it heaps quicker too) and pretty much made the phone much more efficient.

I also downloaded a free application titled 'advanced task killer' which allows me to terminate any applications im not using.

All of these changes let me use the phone extensively (gaming, streaming, long phone calls, web browsing, etc) for more than a day without a charge.

LOVE IT!

Tony
[XPERIA X10 General] cashaw:
.....and today when I have used my X10 more than I did yesterday, it is still at 52% battery after 13 hours. So I really don't have any idea how the battery consumption is working.
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
My mileage is different. My battery never improved by time (I have it since the end of March). I had for the first 3 weeks a steady discharge ratio of about 10% per hour. After restoring the firmware with SEUS, the discharge ratio changed improved dramatically to about 1% per hour, then I reinstalled step by step some application and enabled the settings I need (3G data on, WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS always OFF) and I reached about 4% per hour (a full day). In the last days it is getting a bit worser (5-6% per hour) and I can't figure why.
[XPERIA X10 General] Phantasm4489:
i think a lot of people have been trying to figure out exactly what it is that causes this phone to be so bad sometimes (and for some people) but not others since it first came out. Seems like nobody has cracked it yet.

Guess we will just have to wait and see what the new firmware brings that we've been promised.
[XPERIA X10 General] imugur:
From Engadget article

Google's Larry Page says there's 'something wrong' if your Android phone's battery doesn't last all day

Cellphones and batteries. It's an eternal struggle, but one that Google's Larry Page says should at least be manageable. That topic arose at the recent Google Zeitgeist forum, where Page responded to a question about battery life on Android phones by saying that he actually found it to be "pretty good," and that "if you are not getting a day, there is something wrong." That prompted Google CEO Eric Schmidt to chime in and explain that the main culprit for excessive battery use on the phones is the transmit / receive circuit, which he says some apps are "not particularly smart about" using.

I guess that there are applications that are really killing the battery. Just unistall/kill the one you are not using!!!

Mugur

http://mugur-ionescu.ro/tag/xperia
[XPERIA X10 General] cashaw:
I was playing around in an X10 shell today and did a netstat and was amazed at how many open net connections were established, especially as I only have push activated towards my home server. I was going to check what all the other connections are for.....

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[XPERIA X10 General] Phantasm4489:
I previously had my suspicions about the playnow software seeming to be a bit of a battery hog even when you arent using it. Updated playnow yesterday and my phone does seem to be doing pretty well since i charged it last night. only 14% used in last 12 hours without making any other changes. Could just be placebo effect but probaby worth letting playnow update itself just in case.
[XPERIA X10 General] krister461:
Problem solved - at least it seems so for me

Finally I think my battery problem has been solved.

Short version:

I installed the app Spare Parts and set Brightness Mode to Automatic. Battery now lasts a full day for the first time since I received the phone a month ago.

Long version:

Ever since I received the phone a month ago it has never lasted more than around 15 hours and an average of about 12. I'd be happy to charge it each night, but I think it should last at least 20 hours even with heavy use.

I use wifi whenever I'm at home and Bluetooth whenever I'm driving. So, at first I left both of them on constantly - but after a while I changed to letting locale switch them on and off - which in turn forced me to have GPS on.

I'm too lazy to use tricks like reinstalling the phone or turning it on and off after using wifi. :)

But two days ago I read about the app Spare Parts which gives you more info about battery usage. There I could confirm that the phone was running at a 100% and never went to sleep. Also, the following comment was made by ronnyuk:

"Turn your screen brightness from manual to auto, spare parts will now start showing proper running stats, no more 100% running."

I did as I was told and turned the screen brightness to auto. Not getting my hopes up as I didn't notice anything different in the screen brightness. However, driving home from work yesterday I saw that there was no need to put the phone in the charger. It was still at 50% after heavy use and it lasted the whole day. Even better, today after 8 hours use it is still at 85%. I've never been anywhere close! :)

I'll post again if it turns out this doesn’t last – but right now it seems very promising! :)
[XPERIA X10 General] beetleman:
well,

first you will get full battery preformance in a month,also,when you bought your x10,did you charge it for 12-16h and then discharge?

10 times is minmal for full charge/discharge for good battery capacity.

my x10 give me 2 days of authonomy. so I am satisfied.

p.s. sorry for my english

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[XPERIA X10 General] krister461:
Well, the battery might improve slightly over the first month, but this was a sudden and big change. I did charge overnight and fully discharged again the first time.

Up until now my phone drained up to 10% an hour even if it wasn't used. Now it only drains about 2-3%.
[XPERIA X10 General] sidneylopsides:
Thanksgiving, ill have a look at that spare parts app

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[XPERIA X10 General] quanganhle90:
Hi Guys,

I'm an ex-owner of the X10, I've just switched to the Desire. And I feel like I have something to say :D

Only until I get the Desire, I found out that the battery of X10 is so good. With my usage (which is quite heavy actually), I barely got it X10 through the day, but with the desire, I have to charge at least twice a day :D

So just be happy with your X10s, and don't even think about switching to the Desire if you want battery, will only get worse ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] jimsey:
SPARE PARTS worked for me - massive improvement in power use

I've had my x10i for 3 weeks, and have been charging it daily or twice daily since i got it, did all the full discharge /re-charge for the first couple of weeks but still wasn't getting more than 10hours from the phone before it started complaining of only 5% power left. ( basically it had 10% battery loss per hour on average)

3 days ago i installed spare parts - no other changes -still same usage and same programs / service running - resulting in an instant improvement - It is now using about 2-3% per hour on average = 2 days of use!

SE must know the device has a sleep issue and if there is a simple program like SPARE PARTS that can fix it with immediate effect then SE should be releasing a patch or offering an update.

Anyway I am now more than happy with the power drain which is about equivalent to my old winmo omnia pro.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Hi. Thanks for the update. Makes me feel better! out of interest why did you swap?!

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[XPERIA X10 General] brodos123:
Hi

But why use spare parts to set the brightness? This setting is already in the original settings meny. Will not the two be in conflict with each other?

Thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] quanganhle90:
well to be honest I swap it so I can try out the new launcherpro home :D it's good :D also I wanted to "root", but on desire "root" mean "brick" at the moment, so I'm having to hold back.

So no root on x10, and no safe root on Desire, meh it's just the same, you guys be happy with your x10 :D it's a superior phone ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] rocketpaul:
A full day of use and only 50% drain, thanks to Ultimatejuice.
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
Yesterday i was with my friend, he owns a HTC Desire & he wanted to test X10. From 9 am to 5 pm, Really heavy use... Listening music, watching videos, wifi, gps, bluetooth, taking pictures, testing every single application etc, but at 7 pm i still had 30% battery. Pretty decent :) I tried his HTC desire, Nice mobile but screen is smaller than X10 & design is not so happening :)

Btw, always restart your phone after charging, and you'll see difference :)
[XPERIA X10 General] orochiguyver:
It must be down to useage (bar the obvious bug of the x10 not going into sleep) - best example with desire. Two of my friends have desires and one gets a full 20+ hours with "moderate" (lighter than my x10 usage), another gets 9hrs (wtf) on moderate (similar to my usage). Im getting about 12-16 depending upon usage from my x10.

So how many people here have started to use Spare Parts and how many of those users have noticed a big improvement in battery life?
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
I've got spare parts.. but it seems like it's just an app to give you access to service menus etc.. don't think it's got any battery saving abilities!?
[XPERIA X10 General] orochiguyver:
Exactly what I thought when I read the description and some reviews of it in the Android market - also seems that the app merely "unlocks"/reveals hidden native options (which is great!) but had ads - meaning data usage surely?

I see some people have said its helped their batt life but can more people who are/have used it also tesitfy the same results? If so please can you give how long your batt USED to last and how long it lasts with Spare Parts installed and running.

Cheers!
[XPERIA X10 General] sidneylopsides:
Tried Spare Parts, no noticeable difference.
[XPERIA X10 General] podani:
I had also problem with the poor battery life and the ProcessManager totally changed this. I have tried other task killers as well, but only this helped. Now I have 1-2% drain/hour on idle, before this 10-15%(or more)/hour.
[XPERIA X10 General] orochiguyver:
My new average is clocking in at 15hrs with decent amounts of use... seems to be marginally better. I have task manager killing Play Now!, Face Recognition and Moxier but I actually think its the battery slowly stretching.

Anyone else whos been posting and had their x10 for a couple of weeks had an improvement?
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Hi - I'm not using any kind of task manager.. I get 1% drain every hour roughly when it's in standby.. don't think it's anything to do with task managers.
[XPERIA X10 General] lornova:
Spare Parts: no noticeable difference

Same here... Spare Parts seems to have no effect... Moreover, the phone became extremely laggy when I rebooted it after installing Spare Parts, I don't know if it is a direct consequence, I'll check at next reboot.
[XPERIA X10 General] freco:
My X10 batery used to last 1,5 - 2 days from the day I bought it. Now something sucks all the power in about 10 hours.

I tried a lot of RSS readers, set to manualy update. I noticed the big difference and now I have none installed but the problem still exists. I even uninstall all third party apps with no luck.

Sh*t.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
I have Juice Defender.

NO TASK MANAGERS

I switch MMS and Data off when I'm at home (using wifi)

Wifi sleep policy set to sleep when screen off

Email/ FB/ Twitter syncing every hour.

This is my battery profile today.
[XPERIA X10 General] Punnisher_42:
Mine will do the same as iceman for around 16 hours from a cycling the power. From then on it'll drain more than 20% per hour until exhausted and then it starts all over again

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[XPERIA X10 General] krister461:
I only set the brightness to auto in "spare parts" because somebody suggested this will help the battery problem, and my battery life instantly doubled.

However, now, after more than 10 days with "spare parts" installed - the picture isn't that black and white.

Every now and then I see my battery draining (app 10% an hour) when it should be sleeping. If I go into "spare parts - battery history" I can then usually see its been running at close to or exactly 100%.

Normally a reboot fixes this, battery drain goes down to 2-3% an hour and in "spare parts - battery history" I it shows a much lower running %.

To sum up: Before I installed Spare Parts i never got a battery life of more than 10-15 hours. Afterwards it usually lasts around 30 hours, but every now and then it requires a reboot to stop draining quickly.

I haven't figured out what is stopping it from sleeping every now and then.

:)
[XPERIA X10 General] Beanyness:
To anyone with battery problems

Try the Helix Launcher ...it seems to be working for everyone whos tried it so far, including myself.
[XPERIA X10 General] krister461:
Everyone except me maybe. :P I had been using Helix Launcher for quite a few days before my battery started improving.
[XPERIA X10 General] asmanthebell:
Agreed

Couldn't Agree more with that statement
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I assume there's a memory leak or faulty process that occurs when the phone has been on for too long, and the forthcoming firmware update will hopefully take care of it.

If I reboot immediately after a charge at 100%, the phone lasts 2 days, with heavy use. If I leave it on after a few days of charging it to 100%, it drains quicker.

No matter what though, the battery life is ten-fold better than when I first got it.
[XPERIA X10 General] RR88:
Has anyone actually tried getting theres replaced? I was lucky to get more then 8 hours out of my phone... 8am off the charger... dead by 3pm.. so Rogers replaced my phone and my new one is FANTASTIC! I havent even had to worry about doing all these things for the battery at all... i can easily get a full day out of it without worrying about 3g or wifi or juice defender or anything...
[XPERIA X10 General] PollPixx:
sorry, posted in worng topic
[XPERIA X10 General] augie7107:
I find that Timescape is the big battery drain on the X10.

I never even set it up for two weeks after receiving my device and couldn't understand why everyone was having short battery life issues.

I then got curious and set it up and my battery life chnged dramatically.

I force stopped it and I don't use it at all and I'm back to normal.
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
Well, is nice to have everything in one place.

I don't have to open around 5 apps to find what's new.

Pity it doesn't support RSS feeds.
[XPERIA X10 General] cocoajoe:
I really want to thank everyone that contributed to this forum, it has helped lengthen my battery life massively.

My X10, out of the box was running through battery at Formula1 speeds, where i would need to recharge after about 5 hours, if I wanted a working phone for rest of the day (barely).

After reading the forum, I let the phone power down fully and charged it up. Installed Advanced Task Killer.. Ignored Moxier and manually decide when to synch accounts... Phone is now at 1day 2hours 54min 38sec, and 55% battery charge remaining. I've sms'd, took pictures with the camera, phone calls and had wifi on for stretches, battery length has exponentially improved.

Love the phone now... Hate MOXIER... and really want Sony to move to the android 2.2 and let us the consumer decide about whether we need moxier or not
[XPERIA X10 General] piercewei:
Hello everyone, my battery issue is just simple. The major drainage is for radio but not data exchange.

everytime I check the battery usage condition, the radio(2G) always accounts for the biggest part of battery use. Is it reasonable?
[XPERIA X10 General] Mobzter:
Ive heard people complaining about the 3g radio draining battery so its possible. Maybe have to wait for a better update 'suposedly' w/c 21st june!

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