yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] dcordes:
right now it is totally frustrating. we have some stall situation. a very strange problem. nothing is really moving.

but you have to keep in mind that the information/progress gathered once is never lost and everybody can join in at any point so such projects don't just die. if the device would be five years old nobody would give a damn. (see htc hermes ati chip) but that's not the case.

peace
[HD2 General] techboydino:
Im a huge Android Fanboy. Still am. But had to try the HD2 just because of the nature of the hardware (I still have my other Android phones). I also have dreams of an Android HD2 port but not really counting on it anymore. The Evo will be out soon, and of course similar phones to follow. Im sure the HD2 will have an Android counterpart by the end of the year even better than the HD2. It has not even been 6 months since the N1 was out, now its on a couple carriers, the Desire is coming, Sony X10, you get the point. New phones will surpass the need to port to old. I appreciate any work on an Android port, if I could help I surely would. I would just suggest everyone who cannot help, sit back and wait, or set your eyes on another device. And hope for the best. Just my $.02.
[HD2 General] marmar82:
been feeling like that for a while...
[HD2 General] jakobdroid:
that's really my only gripe with windows mobile. i can live with everything else...

i'm in no rush to see android on the hd2, sure i'd love to...but i can wait :)
[HD2 General] serialtoon:
I recently won a drawing at my work place and won the HD2. So far since the old days of the HP iPaq, nothing has changed for WinMo except for the slightly higher res icons and buttons. Its really a shame, but im glad that WP7 is coming down the pipe line. Having played with it a bit thru the SDK and an actual prototype, its coming along but still needs a bit more refinement. All in all, im happy with my Nexus One and wouldn't leave it for anything.....even though i work for MS.
[HD2 General] busmaster11:
Apologies if this is a stupid question thats been answered. HD2 guy here also looking for an Android port. The Incredible is a snapdragon Android device... can't we make use of the kernel there?
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
No, this same question has been asked dozens of times regarding whether the incredible, the evo, the desire or any other android rom will help. Similar questions have even been asked in this same thread. These devices may be a small help, but not much more than the nexus one kernel already has. Besides... they have already got a kernel partially working. Search for the linux project thread in the original LEO ROM section. Progress is posted there.

Do some reading and searching and you will find your answers. Did you bother reading this thread before posting? It is only 13 pages... it would take 5-10 minutes to read and you would know where to look for info and have a better understanding. This thread should have stayed dead.
[HD2 General] gigagrunt:
According to Engadget this link is for the EVO 4G shipping ROM:

http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Supersonic/
[HD2 General] snyper2k2:
si senor

Yeah supposedly the files are out there already! Wooot wooot!
[HD2 General] tylorweaver:
I second the w00t w00000t!! ;D
[HD2 General] mikey0422:
hell might as well give a third woot woot:

Woot Woot
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
What difference does it make to you that the evo rom is out? Unlike what everybody keeps repeating and misinforming everybody, the evo is not very similar to the HD2 at all except for screen size and processor speed. It can not be ported over easily... it probably isn't going to help with android development for the HD2 much... at least not any more than the nexus one already has. The latest news from the HD2 linux kernel devs is that an android port will have to be built from scratch, as none of the current binaries work on the kernel.

Android is coming to the HD2 eventually.... but just don't get your hopes up on a functional release anytime too soon. We don't have sound or touch screen drivers on the kernel yet, so even if we get android booting, it won't be very functional. But give it 6 months or so.... I hope by then we have a halfway decent copy of android we can boot on our HD2s, but we don't know for sure. We will see. It will be awesome when we can use 2 or 3 OS's on our HD2s, even if they aren't fully functional.
[HD2 General] 2002wrex:
this is the best post i have read in this thread! this is nearly the same argument verbatim that i made to a friend who just pre-ordered his Evo (albeit he is an "average," basic american cell phone user, meaning i had to do his root and rom on his hero). the usability of WinMo is so much more friendly in its system files, the familiarity of WINDOWS, unlimited customizations... the is goes on and on. the HD2 is my 6th WinMo device, and definitely not my last!
[HD2 General] mastajest:
I have to agree with this argument. I thought android was incredible when I got a G1 and rooted it. But winmo with sense is growing on me more each day. This HD2 is my first winmo phone and I have to say that aside from the android market which has some really nice apps, there really isn't anything else that android has on winmo. I like both and hope to soon be able to dual-boot as well, but I'm enjoying the time that the port is taking since it's allowed me to really get to know the capabilities of this phone and winmo.
[HD2 General] Phenomenon:
Yeah guys the Evo release has nothing to do with porting the Android OS over. Nothing at all. You are talking about waiting a LONG ASS TIME. Look at the TP2 and Android. For as long as the TP2 has been out and the Android OS they STILL do not have a 100% functions Android OS on it. By that I mean the camera isn't functional so it's not done. Imagine how long the HD2 is going to take. We are talking about at least 2 years before everything is done on it. People don't buy this device thinking it'll have dual boot, android OS, windows mobile 7, etc. Those things take time. For now, enjoy the phone for what it is and save up for something else you might want later.
[HD2 General] velayo:
Why??

I just bought my HD2 five days ago. I had used an Iphone 3g for the previous two years, a nokia n95 and a samsung A900 on sprint, before that. The first day I used the HD2 I hated it, but as I got to learn and found this forum, I have fallen in love with my HD2, my iphone has since been sleeping on my desk. I can do 99% of the things I did with my iphone, some, may not look as pretty but other easily blow my iphone away. The only department the iphone beats my HD2 is gaming, and maybe if I look around I may find quality games. I hate the scrabble looks for winmo vs. the way it looks on the iphone (I'm not even talking about more complex games)

Now, why would I want Android on my phone? For the same reason I run windows and linux on my macbook, or run os x on my home made computer, because I can and I like to tinker. I'm dying to get my hands on an Android rom or whatever it takes for my HD2 as it will provide me with additional tinkering opportunities and not to mention.

It's funny how some forum members can't comprehend the need to tinker when they themselves have tinkered with their winmo phones to the point theres is almost nothing left of the stock ui. The reason we are all here is the same we like to tinker, some love to put new cooked roms on their phones and others whole new operating systems if possible.

I'm looking forward to run android on my phone and symbian or the iphone os. Hell I would run Windows 7 on it if somebody found the way.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I don't think anyone's saying they don't want to run android from there HD2 or questioning why someone would want it. I'm just tired of people asking when it will happen or why it isn't running yet.... or saying that the evo should be easy to port over.... etc.

First off, if you actually read through this thread or search, you will find the official project thread for porting linux over, and they will find the reason for it taking as long as it is and realize that it's not gonna happen anytime real soon. It will probably never be as good as an android phone... and the evo rom or other android rom can't just be ported easily over.

I'm just saying if anyone is really that interested in running android on their HD2, please search and read for a half hour to learn about it instead of blindly claiming that the evo rom should be no problem to port over because it's the same hardware. That's ridiculous to say.... the hardware is very different. And android will be a long and tedious process to port over, just like it was for every other WinMo phone that has an android port or even the iphone. It took them years to get it on the iphone. It took year to get it on every other WinMo phone.... and it's still not perfect on any of those devices. Don't expect any different for the HD2.

The devs are making great progress over the 6 months they've been working on it. They finally have a linux kernel that sorta works. Still needs a lot of drivers, but they are able to play video with the kernel. We will probably be able to boot into android in the next couple months.... but I'm not expecting a decently functional port for probably a year. Probably a couple years before it's fully functional, if ever. But that's ok. The fun part is watching the progress and playing and tinkering with it. I don't need android, but I'd love to be able to boot into it and play with it. If I wanted andoid as my main os, I'd buy an android phone. That's the only way you're gonna get a fully functional android anytime soon.

Anyways... sorry for the long rant. This post ended up a lot longer than I planned and it's not addressed to anyone in particular and not meant to offend anyone.

Also, for the OP.... if you're looking for good games, look into fpsece. You can play most playstation1 games at full speed with a multitouch onscreen controller. IMO, that beats any other mobile device out there gaming wise. You have the entire ps1 library at your fingertips. You can even run a NES or GB emulator meant for the ps1 with it. I have a ps1 iso that has every NES game on it with emulator and it play pretty well on it. There's also Morphgear that you can use to play NES, SNES, GBA, Genesis, etc. There's multitouch controllers for that, also. Also ScummVM can emulate a lot of old computer games. When you look at emulators, it beats the pants off iphone for games. You can't play playstation full speed on the iphone. Hope that helps.
[HD2 General] efjay:
Actually, I am, I dont care for android and would not sully my phone with it and honestly dont see the obsession with an OS that mimics the iphone so closely.
[HD2 General] dornstar:
The obsession is not Android (which doesn't mimic the iPhone). I think you would find that most of us prefer WinMo to Android barebones. It's the ability to choose from tens of thousands of apps that pulls us in. And it's not just the sheer number of apps, but the quality as well. Coming from Android, it didn't take time to realize that the apps give the phone functionality based on what you need your phone to do.

That said, I love my HD2 and wouldn't be upset if an Android port didn't happen. It would just be like having your cake and eating it too if it did.
[HD2 General] DennisCSUF:
Hate to break it to you but this is a windows phone you knew well the moment you bought it. By the time an Android port makes it they will be better phones out there. Don't hold your breath for a full 100% working copy of Android port

any time soon, you could of easily waiting for the EVO.
[HD2 General] kntdookoo:
This thread is getting annoying to read. It should be closed MODS.
[HD2 General] DennisCSUF:
Yeah! listen to the voice of reason :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] palosjr:
so dont read. problem solved. This thread is here for information, the same way many of the other threads are. If there is something you dont want to see the solution is simple, dont click on it.

That being said, I think many of the users both power and new, wouldnt really mind if there was or was not an Android port.

Yes, it would be nice.

Is it feasible as an overnight task... absolutely not.

Will it happen soon, more than likely no.

Will it be nice if and when it does happen, of course.

Does that mean that people are going to stop asking for it, nope, but it does mean that once it happens there will just be another onslaught of people complaining that things are broken, the GPS doesnt work, WiFi is unable to connect and other things of the like...

you purchased this phone knowing it had WinMo on it. If you bought it with the hopes that Android would be ported, you should have really waited until further down the line, there are some pretty sweet android phones coming down the pipe. Buying the HD2 with hopes of an Android port is like buying a Honda and hoping that your Edelbrock big-block will just drop right in and start up... in aint gonna happen. Just be happy with the device you currently have or buy a second device.
[HD2 General] Noebody:
couldn't agree more

amen brother
[HD2 General] skitoles:
im not gonna lie, i bought the hd2 because i thought an android port was going to be available soon. BUT after finding this forum, i have NO problems with it. i love my hd2 and i don't miss my G1 or iPhone. there is just so much more to do with these amazing handsets. the only thing i honestly miss with my g1 was the fxcamera app, lol. the hd2 and XDA got me into really tweaking, working on my phone and fully customizing it. glad i bought this phone. glad i found this forum. android on the hd2 would be great, but if not, i wouldn't be disappointed.
[HD2 General] flashfox:
The only thing I really miss from Android is the "Market". The thousands of applications and the LOW prices for those which are not free!

Granted, I did not expect as many applications in WinMo, but it was a shock to see the outrageous prices being charged for even simple WinMo applications.

If I can convert this HD2 into an Android device, I would do so for that reason. Why not keep my Nexus One (gave to to our daughter)? Because I am a techno geek, I wanted a new phone and T-Mo did not have anything better when I bought this HD2.

Don't get me wrong, I am OK with WinMo... but I can also see the writing on the wall. WinMo is seriously falling behind and locking out HD2 users from "officially" getting WinMo 7 doesn't help. However, I will follow XDA to see how it's done when it's done ;-)
[HD2 General] dynomite16:
Quick question for anyone. If a android port is going to take a couple years. Will that be the case for WP7? Or since they are both windows will it be a little easier?
[HD2 General] scrizz:
If you are really looking for either Android or WPS7, then you are better off puchasing a handset that natively supports it.

There's still a ways to go on both the WPS7 and Android porting projects.
[HD2 General] techboydino:
why are people getting so bent on the fact the everyone wants Android for this phone. I know that its annoying but who the hell cares. dont read this thread then. I too love Android and if it comes it comes. If not, so be it. Ill just spend another couple hundred bucks on something else. Either way, if people want to post about how much they want Android and ask when its coming, then let them. No skin off your a$$.

I read before that someone said that Android is so much like the iPhone, I cant even bring it to myself to comment on that.

Moral of the story is dont read the thread if you dont want to hear people ask "How long till we get Android on the HD2"

I love this forum BTW.:D
[HD2 General] Shagman68:
lol, Right on TechBoyDino! I just wish T-mobile would get their head out of their butt, and get a good 1 ghz processor with a really good amount of ram/rom on an Android format. Nexus One with a slide keyboard, fully subsidized would be awesome. IMHO
[HD2 General] kre8ve:
lol :d :d
[HD2 General] xzevious:
Android...

Yeah, I got the HD2 because it was a sexy piece of HW, but I miss the stuff from the android store (G1) that I gave to my mom. I have another 6 mos before the other account is up for the upgrade I think, which will coincide with WP7 but I will likely wait to make sure that they have the apps to back up the platform. I wouldn't mind putting android on my HD2 for a bit in the meantime (I like WM stock stuff but I don't like MS app store, apps mostly walk a thin line between too expensive and/or sucky)

So in short I'm a "I want android on my HD2" person. I'd really like it if someone can come up with a way to "dual boot" :) (cake and eat it too type personality)
[HD2 General] maxtcee:
excuse me if this is a dumb question or it has been answered 1000 times but can someone explain why cant android be put on this phone but can be put on tp2 and imagio?
[HD2 General] dornstar:
It took quite a significant amount of time for it to be ported over to those devices. The same time would likely be needed for the HD2 as well.
[HD2 General] :
The closest phone to the HD2 with the same processor is the Nexus. And overall that's a very different piece of hardware. The EVO that everyone want's to use to port Android over to the HD2 with is completely different.

The EVO has a Qualcomm 8650 processor: the HD2 has an 8250. Radio chipset driver: EVO is CDMA: the HD2 is GSM/UMTS. RAM amounts are different. Different hardware keys. All of these things and more mean that a direct port is near impossible, and that firmware has to be built from the ground up.

HTC spends months upon months, millions of dollars, hundreds of employees, and an ungodly amount of man hours building a product. Give the devs here some credit for attempting such a daunting project as customizing an OS almost from scratch, to work on a system that is wasn't designed for.

~Jasecloud4
[HD2 General] one8s3v3n:
Android port progress...

Anyone know the lastest progress on porting android to the hd2. I wanna be up to date on what's being tested and how far along they've gotten. I'm gonna check the android forums but if anyone has any info it would be greatly appreciated.
[HD2 General] Phenomenon:
Any moderators wanna take the initiative of making a "porting" thread or section so that these threads don't pop up everywhere and so there can be some sort of progress reports about this?

To be honest, I am curious myself about the progress of this. So many sites and members have donated lots of money and equipment to different programmers and developers....some new news over this would be appreciated.

I mean, even the freaking iPhone already has Android ported to it.....that's just discouraging as hell.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
They are still working on getting the linux kernel working correctly. They have it running well enough for a media player, but there is still segfault issues, which is holding up progress until they get that solved.

The official thread is stickied in the original Leo Rom section... it's been there for a long time. It's been linked in this thread many times. Progress is updated in the first 2 posts all the time. I don't know what programmers and developers that all these sites and members have donated money and equipment to, but there is only 1 group of devs that have been actively developing the linux kernel, and only one member who actively updates this site about it.... dcordes. If you donated for android development to someone other than him or the few devs hes working with, then I think you're being hustled. I'm not aware of anyone else working on it. Whats sites are you talking about that donated? And to what devs?

Also, it has taken almost 3 years to get android working on the iphone... how is that discouraging? I would hope they'd have something working by now. They've only been working on it for the HD2 for a little more than 6 months.
[HD2 General] 2002wrex:
how has this thread not been locked yet???
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jigners:
search for sometime now, could not find any leads that may shed light to this

anyone out there? I'll try searching for it in the registry, if only i know where to start:confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Archer:
First off, I don't know why you'd even ask for this. It's a tiny burst of vibration that happens only once when you power up the device, and that's it. There's no harm in it and I can't see a genuine reason for wanting it gone since it happens so rarley.

Secondly, you can't get rid of it. It's part of the self-diagnostic that runs when you switch on the device. If you did find a way to stop it (and I'm 99.9999999999999999999% sure you won't) then the phone would probably think there was a problem and not boot.

You're gonna have to live with it mate.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jigners:
Thanks for your killer answer!

BTW I like the nose of the (is that a?) cat in your avatar LOL

:p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Archer:
Heh - it's a lolcat - the smarmiest lolcat in the world! lol

Here's the full version, in all its smarminess!

It's so smarmy that it looks like it should have Blofeld sat on his lap and be saying "Ah Mr. Bond.... I've been expecting you"
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jigners:
ahhh. . . so cute it neh?? can i cuddle him/her?:)

ssshh. . . spamming:cool:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] deb10042:
I was also looking for a solution to this problem.

You asked, why one should wish to deactivate this little vibration on startup...well, quite simple:

My HD2 performs its system backups every night, while it is in its cradle beside my bed. I am using SPB Backup which does a warm reset after finishing its operation. It's really not very funny to wake up every night, only because there is this "little" vibration during the boot up process.:mad:

If you are a user of a genuine HTC ROM, there is even an additional little melody playing after vibrating, which is still more uncomfortable! :eek: Only for this reason, I just reflashed my HTC ROM back to a Vodafone ROM (which only has the vibration).

I think, it would really be a good idea, If someone found a tweak to suppress the boot up vibration! :cool:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Qazz~:
that cat has really small lips and it's face looks almost human like..
[HD2 General] vladimir2989:
is there a way to UNlock it form O2 ?

i send my phone to b fixed thay replace mainboard and changed IMEI number relocking it back to O2... any software solution for unlocking it ? HSPL or HSPL2 - i dont think thay unlock it do thay ?

i know there a planty of wabsites to unlock it but i dont really want to pay twice for it ...
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
only way is either the pay wensites or to fill in the o2 unlock request form. They say it takes 28 days, i've filled it in once online, and now twice over the phone, , , apparently it keeps 'not being activated, oh we're so sorry'. Did it january the 11th, still waiting.
[HD2 General] JamesRC:
It took about 3 weeks through the website with O2 here, worked fine though.
[Hero CDMA General] dbldown768:
On my old HTC dash I was able to turn off all services independently in a way that i could insure that my phone was off yet I could still use my WiFi. This worked well for vacations so that i did not receive any roaming charges for people who may call my phone while gone. The only thing I think that may work is an app called apndroid? Any other suggestions?
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Force EVDO?
[Hero CDMA General] jumaaneface:
you can have wifi on in airplane mode...in sense there is also a setting to disable the mobile network. it even has a convenient little widget. or in mobile network setting u can set it to home only. out of home network evdo wont work with that. u can also change it to only sync data and background services with wifi. if that helps at all
[Hero CDMA General] jvermillion:
Are you on Sprint? As I understand it, most of the unlimited data plans have no roaming these days...
[Hero CDMA General] azyouthinkeyeiz:
When you go to wireless and networks and enable airplane mode, you are still able to turn your wifi on..

Nothing should have to be changed to allow this...
[Hero CDMA General] mrinehart93:
When I turn off Mobile Network, I am still able to place calls... I just lose EvDO.