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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
Hi guys,

i'm pretty new to this so go easy on me have searched the forums for an answer to my quetion but couldn't find what i need.

I have put hard spl 1.66 onto my phone and am now trying to flash it have tried both the ROM and the radio but when trying to do it by active sync I get error [202] connection, then gives me a run down on what to check, I can access the phone through active sync etc and have followed the instructions in the noob guide but can't get past this point!

I have also tried flashing with the SD card but it does not boot up the .nbh file to carry on best I have been able to get is the factory reset option.

any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Speersy.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
i have tried to flash it off 3 different computers but get the same message each time, anyone fancy helping a noob? have followed the noob guide but must be going wrong somewhere
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
O.S Version 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)

Manilla Version 2.5.19202525.0

ROM Version 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE

ROM date 10/28/09

Radio Version 2.04.50.22_2

Protocol Version 15.26.50.07U

I have tried all different CustomRUU.exe to try and flash my phone with a new radio and ROM but each time it says to check the USB cable which I don't understand as I can install the hardSPL2 on to the phone via USB cable, somebody help please.

Thanks

Speersy
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
What model phone?

What does it say next to spl when you enter bootloader? (power off, hold vol down, tap power on, keep holding vol down till u get to three striped screen)

Are you using teh usb cable that came with it? are you using a usb hub? what operating system on the pc's?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
hi thanks for the reply,

in the boot loader it says spl-2.08.HSPL 8g xe

yes i am using the cable that came in the box I have tried on a windows 7 machine and 2 xp machines both with latest updates

when you say model of phone I guess you mean htc hd2 on t-mobile uk

no i'M not using a usb hub cable goes straight into the pc

do you need any more info?

thanks

speersy
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
well that all sounds ok, can't see why it wouldn't work.

last possibility - when running the program, right click it and choose run as administrator.

oh and try all your usb ports.especially stay away from ports built into the case of the computer.try use one directly on themotherboard (one round the back)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Does the device connect to Activesync normally? What happens when you put the device into bootloader mode and then connect it to the pc via usb. Does "usb" appear at the bottom of the screen?

If so, try running the rom updater from the pc directly, ie not through Activesync
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
no nor me wierd that i can flash the HSPL on but then customruu says to check the USB cable when it is connected and has just competed a sync.

have tried different USB ports but made no difference.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
have you tried running teh flash from bootloader? (phone doesnt need to be actually up and running, bootloader will do fine.)

boot to bootloader and then try usb ports till you get 'serial' to change to 'USB', then right click customruu.exe and run as administrator.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
Hi Clyde the device connects to active sync normally and completes it's synch with no errors,

Yes when i put it into the boot loader screen it comes up with USB at the bottom of the screen, have tried what you suggested but it still came up with the same error message,

tried again to do it from the SDcard when i enter the boot loader it brings up a loading screen then some numbers above that in red then goes back to the multi coloured screen and does nothing, you think that there is something wrong with the ROM??

is the noob guide which is stickied an accurate guide to use?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
hi, yeah have tried that got it to go to USB from serial, then ran the customruu as admin and got the same message about check the USB, does the 2 files have to be in a certain location or can be ran from anywhere?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
They can be anywhere as long as they are the only 2 files in their own folder. Have you tried another usb cable?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
ok well sounds like I have the files in the right place, haven't tried a different USB cable, will have to wait till Tuesday till I can get one from work, if we have a spare one somewhere.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
have you tried a different rom? long shot but it could be a bad download.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
have tried different versions of the energy ROM which didn't make any difference at all, have alos tried to flash the radio but got the same message again, have also tried different versions of HSPL2 with no joy,

I find it odd that i can't flash from the SD card either could there be something on the phone that is stopping it maybe something T-Mobile have put on as I have also done a hard reset to try and flash it aswel :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
also i have just read something about T29 do i need to run this before trying to move from the stock ROM?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
no one else came across this problem before then?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
It's not necessary and probably won't work for you as it is the same process as flashing.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
ok thanks clyde, i guess i am all out of things to try to resolve this then?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Give it a go though, you've got nothing to lose.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
Hi Clyde if i run Task 29, and can't get it to flash what will the implications be? will I have a bricked phone?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
task 29 only clears the rom.not the radio or the spl. it will boot to bootloader, but hang on splash screen if you try boot it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
so there could be a chance if task 29 is succesful and i still can't flash a ROM or Radio on to the device that the phone will be left with out a ROM permanently??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Yes there is that possibility, but as long as you can get to bootloader you should be able to flash a rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
ok thanks for all the info i will give it anoyhet go tomorrow when i get work
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
I opted against using task 29 on my phone incase it left it in a state where I was unable to flash the ROM, Has no one else come across this error message then?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
still getting 202 error eh?

Ive just reread the thread, and i think the problem is on the pc, not the phone. Id suspect something along the lines of either

your av software has disabled customruu.exe (more than one av firm identifies it as a trojan)

or

your network security settings (firewall) is blocking access from customruu to the usb.

or

your user account isnt an administrator. (Long shot i know)

I'd try a different computer.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
Hi samsamuel,

I have tried it with AV off I am a domain admin at work and have tried with out forefront working and with windows firewall service disabled, I then run the file as the local admin user account.

I have tried it on my laptop at home also using windows 7 still no joy, also on my girlfriends XP SP3 machine all with the same error, bit of a wierd one not to sure if i would get the same error message on all 3 machines if it wasn't the phone itself but I may be wrong like i say am pretty new to flashing phones.

Thanks

Lee
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] speersy:
have even tried to flash the latest Tmobile UK official ROM from the HTC site but that doesnot work I do however get a different message error 262 update error. have sent HTC an email so will wait to see what they say about it
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
I think we really need to get this update uploaded for future use!
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Wait til you get it and then upload it! ;)
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
Well that's a dumb-ass comment isn't it, what if he WONT get it because he has a htc branded device?
[Desire General] EddyOS:
1.15.405.4 (generic HTC ROM) = T-Mobile updated ROM

Hence no update needed. And if he's on T-Mobile he'll get it in time, patience is the key my friend ;)

Ultimately, an HTC generic SIM-free phone will get updates before the operators
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
I won't get the update, my phone was from the second batch it already has the update on it.just wanted to keep this update so I can mess with generic rom and have it as a backup incase something goes wrong and I need to return the phone.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Can you not 'dump' it or something? The updated ROM wasn't a download so I don't think anyone has it (I've come from cooking WinMo ROMs where they're easy to get hold of so dunno about Android)
[Desire General] rhedgehog:
if no-one has it yet, then just use the 1.15.405.3 in the development section, which you can then update OTA to the latest version.

simples.
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
OK......ill repeat it slowly with pictures

I assume the OP wants someone to upload the T-mobile update for future use! (as we already have a way to get the htc rom as advised by rhedgehog)

This update will help people who have t-mobile device but have installed a stock htc rom.

If someone is kind enough to upload the t-mobile update those people who have installed a htc rom onto a t-mobile device can re-brand their handsets

If the op has a HTC branded device he wont receive the t-mobile update

No the Op cannot dump his device into a htc signed rom, and it was a download as the phone downloaded it onto the phone prior to flashing it
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
Apologies for the double post, but as the Op asked

If anyone gets the t-mobile update on their device, could they please upload it and post a link
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
Just 2 explain. My phone came with this update already installed(it was from the second batch of tmob phones) I want to put the unbranded htc rom on it and keep this update incase I need to send the phone back for repair. I didn't think I could dump the phone and restore from that. The update would make the process simples.
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
The update will download onto the phone before install.it would be this file that we need
[Desire General] EddyOS:
I got you the first time mate ;)

The T-Mobile ROM isn't about though, is it? Perhaps the stock T-Mobile one but the update is OTA so a downloadable ROM version isn't about so no-one can upload it...All the OP would need is the first TMO ROM and then the OTA would kick in when used
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
OK.....once more

Yes we know its not abouts, that's why we want it posted. We don't have either of the T-mobile roms

Anyone who has a t-mobile device who hasn't yet received the update can take a copy of the update file from their phone when they receive it.

We just need someone to make a copy of the update file once they have received it via OTA
[Desire General] FloatingFatMan:
Why bother? The T-Mobile update is no newer than the ROM on the HTC branded devices. It's just bringing the first batch devices up to speed with the ROM already send out to the HTC ones.
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
This is what I'm saying the phone would have to download the file b4 install.the rom is about but no one has extracted the file from there phones.
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
So people can re-install a t-mobile rom onto their device in-case of warranty issues!
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
Is it just me or is everyone other than us having a very blonde day?

It's not too hard to understand is it?
[Desire General] FloatingFatMan:
So just dump your current ROM? What makes you think the OTA update was a complete ROM anyway? It could quite easily just be a patch...
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
OMG, you cant dump a rom from a device and just install it again!

Yes it could just be a patch but we will never know unless people stop asking stupid questions and just post the damn update!

The htc update was a complete rom, so chances are that this one will be too
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Baring in mind I didn't know you could take the update from the phone I think you've been extremely rude, condecending and not much help. If the OP had said 'can someone take the update form their phone before allowing it to flash' then everyone would understand and you wouldn't have to be a prick about it. As I said, I've come from WinMo where things are a tad easier so excuse my ignorance but I can see why people said the Android community was full of wankers now!!
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
Ok maybe I diddnt explain very well but I thought if ppl read the thread it would become clear. It was mentioned a few times that the phone dl's it b4 update. Sorry 4 any misunderstanding I just hope someone will get the file and extract it.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
No worries mate, I get you now so from now on I'll keep an eye out for thing for people (running generic ROMs, etc)
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
I take what you have said on board and am sorry if i have offended you, but if you've come from windows mobile and have no idea what your talking about then why are you posting advice on this forum?

Please dont take offence but that is just wasting peoples time.

Rather than coming and asking questions you just appeared and started telling people the way things work with android when in all truth you hadn't done any research and had no idea.

As for the Wa**kers comment, it also works the other way around...

It could be viewed that you having come from windows devices have just come into an android forum and have just started telling everyone how things work...when intact you have no idea
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Because I assumed an OTA update couldn't be 'gotten at' - as with all other mobile OSs. I've been proved wrong...we all start somewhere and seeing as my HD2 was my first WinMo phone and I got it in December and I now cook ROMs for it it won't take long to get my head round Android

Ideally the OP should've put:

'I've got an HTC Desire on T-Mobile which already has the latest FW on it. Can someone please post the upgrade from their phone (before it flashes) when/if you get it so that if I decide to flash a stock ROM I have something to fall back on for warranty reasons'

But, that's ideally :D
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
Agreed, that would have made life easier for everyone :)

Good luck with your future Android use, if you have used linux in the past it wont take long to get your head around most of it
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
You seem to be being v anal about what I should have put but I wasn't expected to be called a wanker. I have come from a g1 and have little knowledge in comparison 2 some. I thought that ppl on xda where quite clued up. I feel sorry for you to have come out fighting in this way mate.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Linux is osmething I was never a huge fan of but have come rund to it a bit more - need to knock up a new test rig as I've always been a Windows man...:D
[Desire General] FloatingFatMan:
It would also help if he'd told people where on the device the update gets stored prior to updating.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
I wasn't actually aiming it you as such, sorry for the harsh words - didn't mean to offend (anyone on this forum)
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
I think it was assumed that people in an android forum would know how android updates work, but yes that would have made life much easier for the people that didn't know.

I think we have had a bit of a misunderstanding because of lack of communication on both sides.

1. Android folks assuming everyone knows these things

2. Windows Mo folks assuming android works like windows mo
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
Ok np. I'm not even sure where the file would be, I was hoping that by starting a thread on the subject it would be a start to a deeper more in depth explanation on how to retrieve it. I can remember this happening when the g1 was released.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Absolutely!! :D

(on that note, where are updates stored?)
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
You've gotta laugh that after the ranting and raving stops no one has the answer. I'm gunna go and google it. Brb
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Would you not need root access to get at the updates? I assume they go to some sort of temp folder before being flashed...tried to Google it but didn't get very far!
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
The easiest way to get the update would be to run logcat via adb shell and check for the update on your handset.

The url for the file should show up in the log, and you can download the file on your pc
[Desire General] saquib:
Done a bit of googling - suggestions are it is stored in /cache but this is not accessible unless you have root access (just tried). However, some people reckon the update zip file is copied to the sd card at some point of the applying update process.

http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid/57942-ota-2-1-has-started-11.html
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
Yes, getting the file out of cache would be hard work.

I think we are better looking at the logcat and just copying the url ;)
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
On the g1 we didn't need root as far as I can remember. Think ppl used adb pull. I think I maybe possible to use astro app to copy the file to the sd card. But if we don't know where the file is its not much help. Maybe someone can't point us in the right direction. Where sgtdave gone maybe he knows. I tried to find info on google but came up empty. I will look into it deeper when I finish work.
[Desire General] saquib:
You're right - just need someone who's applied the update to put their hand up :-)
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
yes its stored in cache, but if we can get someone to check the logcat logs we will be able to see the actual full url for the file.

It would then just be a job of downloading the file
[Desire General] SGTDavePwnage:
This is the url to the update

http://liveimage.htc.com//OTA_Bravo_TMO_UK_1.15.110.11-1.15.110.10_releasez3xlhzglzlds8gg2.zip

Unfortunately it isn't a full rom, just a patch.

I will continue to try and find the full rom

***MANY THANKS TO revthanki***
[Desire General] EddyOS:
If you just had the .10 ROM, wouldn't the OTA update kick in anyway? Or is this to speed up reverting to the stock TMO ROM?
[Desire General] eLv./.G1:
oh well nice 1 for getting the update. Shame its just an update but nevermind. Just for future use how do you use adb to check the log. Thx in advance
[Desire General] fergusstrachan:
Don't shoot me for the silly question, but I assume you can't just apply that download patch directly? It's full of files with a dot-P extention - never heard of that kind of nonsense. :-)

On 2nd thoughts, I won't even contemplate installing something I have no understanding of onto a Desire that is going back for a refund anyway. heh.
[HD2 General] lengjai:
hi does anyone know how to increase the number of emails that show up, currently it only shows up 50 but is there a way of increasing the number?

and also when i send emails, they dont show up on my sent email tab....anyone know why?

thanks in advance =D
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
email tab - click inbox - menu - scroll down to Tools - Options -

1 - on accounts tab, tap the account you want to change, tap 'send and receive schedule', 'Download messages' is probably set to ''past three days''. ALso on this tab at the bottom, 'advanced settings' - you might want to edit the settings in there, such as 'delete from server when deleting'.

2 - same place, switch to message tab - tick 'keep copies of sent items in sent folder'
[HD2 General] lengjai:
thanks for the reply

but im using hotmail and it only shows me yhe options for windows live....and ive looked but no options to increase emails

as of sent items. ive already checked that box but still doesnt save....
[Desire General] Guitarfreak26:
Hey

occasionaly I get a message cannot send even when I have a 3g signal and it repeatedly tries to resend for about five minutes! is it because data is using it at the same time?

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[Desire General] Guitarfreak26:
Hey

is it worth buying juice defender for the desire? I don't understand what it does lol or how it works.

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[Desire General] shelnes:
I think it's worth it! Got it and my battery lasts x2
[Desire General] agent.m:
Same here. I wanted something similar for my Diamond 2. This seem alot more intelligent.
[Desire General] Guitarfreak26:
Re: juicedefender

installed now, although what happens with email and like football score notifications?

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[Desire General] ragmanchu:
its a question that i have been waiting for.

seems like any push data is affected because the app shuts down data to save battery.

I know you can set it so it switches on for a 1min every 15mins but if you have GTalk or constant emails being pushed, it means you wont get them until the app switches the data back on to reteive the emails/messages.

this is my understanding on how this app works.

if there is a program that auto switches ur phone to 2G when idle or screen is off, then i think this is a better solution.
[Desire General] Guitarfreak26:
This one does turn on when your screen does lol..

But earlier it stopped my data working even with screen on, i had to go into settings and disable then re enable and it worked! maybe it was cus i was at work and it tried to connect when i had no signal.. i dunno
[Desire General] oliroe:
Re: juicedefender

it's a known problem and the developer is working on a fix. I won't be using it until it is

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[Desire General] Guitarfreak26:
Is it? Whats the fix? Just turning it off and back on? Because disabling JD didnt work..
[Desire General] Mister-C:
This happened to me yesterday as well. Only way I could get mobile internet back again was to reboot
[Desire General] murmeljenta:
Hi,

I installed JuiceDefender two days ago. Since then, I have had wifi problems. I can't be 100% sure that they are caused by JD, but I had no wifi problems before that, using several different networks.

My phone is SE Xperia X10, but I understand that the app works the same way on both phones.

The problem is:

When wifi is enabled, it takes several seconds to enter the "wireless networks" menu in settings. It then takes 20 seconds entering the "wireless settings" menu. During this period, the screen goes black. Sometimes, I get a message that the wifi app has crashed. Also: When I connect to a network, it works fine for 1-5 minutes, but after a while the phone does not seem to receive any data, even though it says "connected". The same wifi network works perfectly on my computer.

I have tried rebooting the phone, uninstalling/reinstalling JuiceDefender, etc.

Has anyone experienced anything similar to this? Any hints on how to solve the problem?
[Desire General] Guitarfreak26:
Re: juicedefender

happened again today with mobile data at work, it turned it self off. does the developer know about the bug?

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[Desire General] oliroe:
Re: juicedefender

yeah he does. A beta was released which was slightly better but not perfect. Guess it's just a case of waiting

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