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[Desire General] Sethos II:
I went Mac and back. It's not that great. Especially since Windows 7 beat their crappy OS.

My thoughts about the iPhone: Look at the Desire's specs! Do you seriously think Apple will be able to match that in July?!

And even IF the hardware were the same - Android still beats iPhone OS hands down.

Seriously, don't hesitate, get your Desire now. It's hands down the best phone you can get and it won't be beaten by anything for a long, long time.... (plus, investing in the Android system now makes sense, since no other system will beat it and IF something beats the Desire, it will be another Android phone).
[Desire General] inkredi:
i was Totally jokinggg!!! lmao

i hate iPhone OS ..and im sure that Android still beats iphone os 4.0
[Desire General] Nelsaidi:
I've got a desire, no regrets at all - Only issue I have with it is the lack of nice games :P - Apps are fully met for in the marketplace.

But, i doubt it will be an issue much longer, the android market will certainly grow especially with major manufacturers such as Samsung, Sony Ericson and Motoral aswell as HTC (the best manufacturer) devoting to Android.

I would recomend the Desire, its a great phone :D
[Desire General] cloudt88:
I am choosing between the iphone 3gs and the desire as well...

Actually I like the disire more but the only thing that put me off is the lack of chinese language support which iphone has the advantage of...

Is there any app or any way that can enable me to read and write chinese with desire??
[Desire General] TeCH-Guruz:
I currently have a iphone (well its on ebay now) I was waiting for the iphone 4 but got twitchy when i saw the desire so ordered got it thinking I will send it back (just wanted a play really my first android phone) I did end up sending it back but only for an exchange iphone is going. iPhone 4 will have much better spec than the 3gs but on release apple will only allow you to use a quater of its actual spec and gradually release updates to enable features ect by the time the iphone 4 is worth having the desire 2 will be out.

iPhone = old technology rebranded as apple and doubled in price
[Desire General] ahmgsk:
techniqically -> iphone has better multi touch than n1 and desire

iphone has apple optimized hardware

But Overall Android with desire wins the race .. it has snapdragon :P + More Than Double Ram

even after apple os 4.0 it will nto be able to give wat android will provide.

and multitouch can be improved in custom roms and custom kernels
[Desire General] gurdz:
is there an app for the desire that turns the flash into a torch???

thanks
[Desire General] Ascenca83:
+1 for such an app like on the HTC HD2
[Desire General] MasDroid:
Not come acroos an app that utilises the flash as a torch. There is this free app, which I think may work with Android 2.1 except that it will only illuminate the screen, and not the LEDs: http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-android-flashlight-zAA.aspx
[Desire General] sparklehedgehog:
there is already one for the HD2 called HTC Flashlight! Normally installed already in the programs list (don't know about these new T Mobile ones in USA though)

no there isn't one that works on Android marketplace yet for the Desire but one will appear within a month so not long.

:cool:
[Desire General] wankingweiner:
yes there is one, i dont quite remember the name of the app but it will only appear in the marketplace if you are rooted.
[Desire General] sparklehedgehog:
but root isn't available for the desire yet so there still isnt one that works!
[Desire General] zonkkk:
I've found it in the market, I can't remember the name but just search for flash light and you should find it.

The description says it works on Motorola Droid but not on Nexus One, so there is a good chance that it won't work on HTC Desire either...
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Fryguy88:
Whenever I get a message using Handcent I also get a duplicate message in my stock msgr. How do I disable this? I have Handcent set as my default msngr.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] gohamstergo:
have you tried going into stock app then

menu > settings > auto retrieve > off ?

might only apply to MMS tho and not regular SMS...if that doesn't work, dunno
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] cveklund:
On the stock msgr, you go into settings and turn off the notifications under settings, like sound, vibrate etc.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] ashertheplague:
if you are rooted and wanna use handcent sms.. rather than the default then just use root explorer go to system/apps then delete the mms.apk
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Fryguy88:
You have no idea how much this duplicate msg. Thing has been bothering me. Thus worked like a charm. Thank you so much for the help and especially the quick reply.:D
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] kbfirebreather:
How can I get the native mms to stop popping up with handcent mms? I've tried disabling auto retrieve along with removing the mms.apk, but it still pops up.

Any idea on how to make sure the native mms doesn't popup when receiving a new message?
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] osbozzy:
default messaging application > settings >In the notifications settings , uncheck the notification bar.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] demmo86rt:
Be careful with that, you will most likely kill mms, unless one of the recent handcent updates has changed something.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] settlethestorm:
+1

I remember reading that deleting important apk's like that via root explorer can be dangerous. If you decide to delete it that way, make a nand backup first.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] rycheme:
I've been using handcent for quite some time now. I simply go into the stock SMS application and turn absolutely everything off, including auto-retrieve, notification sounds, notification vibrate, etc.

My settings are backed up through Titanium Backup, so when I flash a new ROM, I just re-apply the backup of the settings. Works wonderfully for me.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] osana412:
Thank pall.. this is what i want... My problem, solve too...
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] rpankoe:
Tried this, but then I can't get MMS (messages with photo attachments). Everything else works, but MMS stops working.

To begin with, I am only getting messages duplicated when they come through a gateway such as phonenumber@messaging.sprintpcs.com. The ones that come direct from other people are usually fine and I get only 1. I've searched and searched for the answer for this and can't seem to find it.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Caseyk621:
Does handcent load super slow for you guys. Had to stop using because of that.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martin0285:
Hey anyone else having your phone reboot when your phones sitting in the car dock and you plug in something to the headphone jack? I've had it happen 3x's today and trying to figure out if its my ROM (CM-5.0.5.3) or if its something else....
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martin0285:
anyone? gotta be more then me....

Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kklang:
I had the same issue. but can not tell what's triggering it. Together with charging playing music and running a navigation app (google nav does not work in my location) I run yandex maps to see traffic jams. So it could be maybe one of the apps hanging the phone. I'm pretty sure I was on one of CM 6 versions. Or it could be overheating.

Do not see it lately on 6.1 N1 stable. for about 2 to 3 month its stable.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] codesplice:
Out of curiosity, how many shiny bands (broken by black indentations) are on the plug that you're inserting into the device? The Nexus (and many modern smart phones + media devices) are designed for a 4-banded plug to accommodate remote functions (play/pause, volume up/down, etc). Standard audio cables only have three contacts on the plug. If the three-contact plug isn't sitting just right and shorts out some of the contacts inside the phone, all sorts of screwy things can happen - and I suspect this is what you are experiencing.
[HD2 General] andydprice:
I know Windows Marketplace is up and running but does anyone have any ideas as to what the plans are regarding app's and the HTC HD2? I appriciate the phone is relatively new but just wondered if anyone could fill my in on future plans.

Thanks.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
It all depends on if developers post apps on the marketplace. The HD2 is not that new anymore... its 6 months old. I don't think there is going to be many new apps on the marketplace until windows phone 7 is released. The marketplace doesn't have any good apps, anyways. You'd be better off googling for apps.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
lets not forget that for every one app in the marketplace, there are 500 not in the marketplace. The marketplace is an insignificance to winmo at the moment. (Well, not that i've ever opened the marketplace , , i'm just assuming it hasn't been stocked up with thousands of apps overnight....)
[HD2 General] OneGoodKnock:
Is anybody else having issues with the Marketplace at the moment. I have just tried to download SPB keyboard demo and it keeps failing saying it cant connect to the server.
[Nexus One General] mudrock1000:
Title says it all. When i have NO HSPDA I become screwed and I have to revert to EDGE otherwise I have no data connection. I haven't tried it out of town yet, but it's ridiculous. It says I'm on 3g, but then switches when I start a speedtest. Is that just because I'm always in HSPDA? Any ideas?

I'm on the Desire ROM. I don't think it's the rom though, because this happened on Cyanogen.
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
HSDPA is only on when necessary, when it isn't, your on 3G. You're in an HSDPA area, so when you use data your carrier bumps you up to HSDPA.
[Nexus One General] Kermee:
Assuming you're in the U.S. and on T-Mobile, this thread covers your issue:

3G --> H Data problems

Cheers,

Kermee
[Nexus One General] mudrock1000:
Ahh much thanks. So in theory if I leave the HSPDA area my 3g will work because it isn't trying to switch?
[Nexus One General] Kermee:
If you leave an HSPDA area and only UMTS (3G) & EDGE are available, then in theory, yes. The data will transfer over 3G or EDGE. It's normal for the N1 to "idle" with the "3G" icon, but when you're actually doing data transfer, it'll switch to "H" if it's available.

In other words... nothing is broken. =)

Most people are confused by the "H" because on the *Stock* ROM, the "3G" icon doesn't differentiate between "UMTS/3G" and "HSPDA"... It'll always display 3G with either technology. The *Custom* ROM's differentiate which technology the handset is talking with the tower in regards to HSPDA and UMTS.

Cheers,

Kermee
[Android Apps and Games] rbaggio00:
does anyone know of any app that will allow me to controll my apple tv from my android phone.
[Android Apps and Games] mikef1182:
"Remote for iTunes" is what I use. Not as good as the iPhone app, but gets the job done.
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
Ok, so I followed some instructions I found to see if a2sd was installed properly, and it was, but I've installed some apps and my free memory inside my phone is around 33 MB... (not ram) Anyone knwo why a2sd would be installed correctly according to the instructions I used, and why the phone says I have such little space left?Last time I checked, it was 99MB
[Hero CDMA General] Ceger:
There was a thread just like not more than 30 minutes ago.

Anyways, check your widgets load out as they could be pre-fetching or eating your ram. I had a similar issue and ram kept dropping until it was around 29MB. Weird thing is that I then wanted to try to setup an alternate setup on the stock launcher, and when I tried loading a widget there, it forced closed the launcher and when I checked my memeory at that point, it was back solid around the 110MB point. I switched back to Sense with my widget setups and had no problems since.

you might also try to not use things like pre-fetch on widgets such as News and Weather, and shut off auto updates for items you don't use.

You can also just ry removing all widgets and starting again to see if that does the trick.

Ceger
[Hero CDMA General] jerry43812:
Not ram... not ram... not ram.... phone memory... the internal phone storage.

And I was wrong, its not down to 33... it used to be near 100MB free, now dswn to 71.83MB free space. Not ram ;)

But while I am thinking about ram, I start up with around 78MB free and consistently run at around 58MB
[Windows Phone 7 General] JediFonger:
neither are iPhones, Droids, etc.

in my particular situation, i have wifi everywhere i go. there's no need to have constant always on 3g/4g connection at all.

i have a hermes right now and i do fine w/o data. but i do luv the offline functionality and features of a 'laptop-like' phone.

are you like me? if so, the future of smart phones is requiring that you be online all the time! :(

how will you cope in a world like that? will iPhone work w/o data plan? will droid? will WP7 phone? :eek:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Spike15:
No, I'm not a regressive, sorry.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Just get a data plan.

That simple. :D

(actually, Android is usable without a data plan, I bought my girlfriend a cheap Android phone and she uses it without one)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
Well I've always had a data plan so this won't be an issue for me. Usually if you buy phones outright and not on contract you don't have to get data plans. Of course I don't know if it will work or not.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kristaps-K9-Lv:
Im always without Data plan!!! At home I got WIFI and I dont need the net anywhere else - just turn on ifi update weather forecasts and emails and thats about it! :)

But it would be a shame if we could not use WP7 without constant internet connection...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ganondolf:
my brother used his iphone without a data plan and it still works really well. he turned on wifi and when he entered somewhere with wifi (home etc) it would connect and update automatically, it did not try to connect with data at any point when he was not in a area with wifi. also it did not seem to effect the battery much, i guess they have a sleep mode or something on the wifi.

I guess wp7 will work the same. but not a problem for me as i have unlimited data.
[Windows Phone 7 General] flashpanda:
I'd question that actually. In my admittedly limited, but recent (2.1) experience of Android, it's heavily tied into Google services, and hence, data. I couldn't even launch the Calendar without being prompted for a Google account, let alone run a local-only Calendar, or connect to an Exchange calendar.

It will be possible to run WP7 without dataplan, just as it is possible to do so with Android. But I'd certainly suggest it's far from premium-experience.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
You log in to your Google account once via WiFi, and that's it.

From then on, you can use the phone entirely without web connection. Of course, it doesn't make that much sense, cause many applications, like Google Maps, rely on the web connection.

But you can still use offline navigation, games, the camera, calendar etc. and that's all that she needs.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JediFonger:
i like smartphones mostly for its computer-like functions excel/word/etc. and media player. but other than i dont need to be constantly connected to a data plan. it's a waste of $ for me =P
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
You will probably have to buy unlocked or without contract to get these phones then with the data plan.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JediFonger:
that's what i plan2do.

... although i bought my current Hermes w/ATT and they subsidized WITHOUT requiring ME to have a data plan ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
How'd you swing that? I doubt that will fly now unless you get someone that doesn't know what they are doing. I had to actually upgrade my data plan when I went from the Wizard to the Rhodium to get the discounted price.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JediFonger:
yeah, i have no idea. i bought the phone... then called them and told them i DON'T want a data plan. they took the data plan out and that was many years ago now =P. my contract last summer. now i'm w/Tmo with NO contract! i luv it! i just put the sim in and i'm allset to go.

hoping2do likewise w/whatever new smartphone i get. put sim in and go. i have wifi everywhere i go. no need for stupid data plans. but now the phones are expensive ='(. the Tmo HD2 (for example) is like $600+
[Windows Phone 7 General] burnblue:
If you have Wi-Fi everywhere you go, then what's the problem? Your phone will work on Wi-Fi.

A modern smartphone's primary features are all not for you. GPS/Mapping on the go for example, or quickly checking email at the beach. However if you still want a smartphone for that Pocket Excel goodness, nothing's stopping you from going Wi-Fi only. Well, except the network operators; they want you to buy a plan if they're going to subsidize the phone).
[Windows Phone 7 General] brianK2:
AT&T 'conveniently' adds data plan

When I last spoke to AT&T a few weeks ago about using a Fuze on my current plan (swapping out a Nokia 6650), AT&T told me that anyone adding a new smart phone after some time last fall 2009, AT&T will automatically recognize that you are using a smart phone, and for our "convenience", automatically add a smartphone data plan. They also recently amended their legalese so that if you add a messaging phone to your plan, they will conveniently and automatically add some messaging service to that line. I'm not sure how that one works...

So, although I have a Fuze, and really wanted to swap out the SIM card so I can text easier, and only use wifi data, AT&T will drop a $30 data plan on me as soon as I put the sim in the Fuze and make a call.

Has anyone recently added a smartphone to AT&T and not had the "convenient" data plan added to their account?
[Windows Phone 7 General] JediFonger:
briank2, that sounds fishy. never tell them what you're using, just say you have a old flip phone like razr and need simple txting. i think ATT used to offer $5 for 200txt and $10 for unlimited. now that i'm w/tmo, they dont have a $5 for 200, so i went w/$10 for unlimited and it's awesome. i no longer need to worry about limits =P

burnblue,

there's no problem for current winmo 6.x but it looks like WP7 might REQUIRE a data plan in of itself. but i'm just speculating. that is my only concern. that just means i can't use it. i want to... but don't want to spend the $ on data plan. it's ridiculous.

GPS can be used w/o data plan. when i'm @beach, i don't check email ;). so that's basically my concern is, if the WP7 OS is so 'azure/cloud'-oriented that they forcelock people to use data plan oNLY that i can't even use it w/o data plan. then it's basically gonna be android for me =P.
[Windows Phone 7 General] pimppoet:
They have been changng data plans...if its att branded or part of some type of att merger etc the system can tell what phone ur using...its been that way for awhile far as i know....theyre just enforcing data plans which is one of the reason i stick with my $20 unlimited text/web with tmobile for my tp2. Peep the threads below

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1637722

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1627043

Far as the data requirements it seems like theyre copying google by having to have a live account http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=15475
[Windows Phone 7 General] JediFonger:
my fears semi-confirmed:

that's what i DONT want to do. when i hard-reset my WP7 phone. i don't want to login somewhere in the middle of nowhere just to make a call or use apps within the phon.

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...one-7-docs-show-off-wince-6-underpinnings.ars
[Windows Phone 7 General] Shasarak:
The entire WP7 philosophy is about arranging things so that you never need to do a hard reset.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
I don't understand why someone would want a phone like this with out having a data plan. The phone is based on connecting with people, and the internet is a major part of the OS.

I can understnad if you live in a box and never leave that box and have wi-fi, then sure but, you would not need the phone because you would not have anyone to call...
[Windows Phone 7 General] JediFonger:
my hermes i use now is the same concept as WP7. i'm ALREADY connected WITHOUT data plan. the point is why should i have to pay more $ for EACH EVERY SINGLE device that goes on the web? see article here:

http://gizmodo.com/5492029/its-time-for-one-data-plan-to-rule-all-our-gadgets

it's not about NOT doing it. it's about REDUNDANCY!
[Windows Phone 7 General] burnblue:
Why would you hard-reset your phone when you're in the middle of nowhere? That's just not smart.

Trekking through the mountains is not the time to decide you want to hard-reset your phone, leaving you at the risk of not being able to call anyone

Plus, after resetting you only need the connection that one time, to check the Windows Live ID. You don't need a data plan to use data that one time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
It's coming to the point that you know sometime in the future and maybe even before we are gone data plans are probably going to be required with all cell phones because I think data and voice are going to be on the same stream. You're just going to have to start dealing with that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] donnaw:
I understand where the OP is coming from. I don't really need a data plan either (although I have one). I am able to connect to wifi if I need it - which is not too often.

However, I DO need a smart phone because I use it as a pda. Calendar, ewallet, spreadsheets, etc. A dumb phone just does not provide what I need.

For those of you who wonder why anyone would want a smart phone without a data plan I can assure you there are a LOT of people who are in the same place as the OP and myself.

I am not happy that our carriers (in the US anyway) are requiring a data plan if you have a smart phone - even if you bring your own phone. Perhaps they will change that at some time (probably if and when the government gets involved) - or when WIFI is SO wide spread the masses revolt.

But as of now - it is what it is and life goes on.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ashg926:
In Australia, through my service provider (Vodafone), your credit for your data plan is counted in with your other credit (I'm currently on pre-paid SIMs as I can't go on a contract until I get a "valid form of photo ID"... silly country).

At any rate, it's an interesting system which I find works well for me. I don't see why other service providers across the world haven't picked this up. Probably more money or something...
[Windows Phone 7 General] JediFonger:
you haven't been using smartphones long have u :D

hw failure is just a reality esp. when you are a xda member and you flash custom ROMs all the time.

when we have WP7 custom ROMs (WHEN, not if), hard reset is a reality when things just dont work. that is why it's dangerous to rely on data plan JUST SO you can use your phone to make calls, etc.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Shasarak:
What you need to understand is that Microsoft wouldn't give two cents for the entire XDA community. It doesn't care about XDA, and it doesn't care about your opinion. Not even the tiniest bit. You are less important to Microsoft than the dust on the soles of its shoes.

WP7 is not in any way aimed at a user who flashes custom ROMs. If that's what you want to do with your phone, Microsoft would actually prefer you to go and do it with an Android phone instead, so there's no possibility of any WP7 users getting hit by the computational shrapnel.

WP7 is aimed at users who want their phones to work; people who want to be able to install any available piece of software and know, for certain, that nothing bad will happen to their phone when they do. People like that, Microsoft cares about. People like you, they don't.

Now move along, please. :)