yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
Correction. There are one half as many Red and Blue subpixels, but you are indicating one quarter. 800x480 = 384,000 and 400x240 = 96,000, but there are really 192,000 Red and Blue subpixels.

The confusing thing about the layout is that they are checker-boarded so you can say "each of the 800 rows have alternating R&B" and you can say "each of the 480 columns have alternating R&B", but you can't say "every other row has alternating R&B" or "every other column has alternating R&B" which is what your numbers would boil down to.

The actual resolutions are:

Green - 800x480

Red - 800x240 or 400x480 depending on how you count it

Blue - 800x240 or 400x480 depending on how you count it
[Nexus One General] xxmonsterx:
comparing my n1 to my buddies droid using color flashlight app from market, we compared colors on eachothers screens, the droid does not have as deep/dark of a black color as the n1, but does have a brighter white.
[Nexus One General] furbyslayer:
At first glance, I didn't notice a requisite 't' in the title of this article, and thought this was an entirely different discussion... :)

Seriously though, I have no issue with the screen, it's pixel count or clarity, and I haven't even noticed the 'color-banding' that the tech blogs all showed was 'sooo terrible' on this phone... Perhaps it's just me...

I think that if this is an item of concern for someone, and I believe that to be true of the original poster, then maybe this was not the best phone choice... maybe... There is always going to be something better than what you have at that given moment, it's just how things are. And the fact that this phone came out after the Droid means nothing to me... I wanted the Nexus One, and I got one, period.

Hey maybe since Cyangen is so fond of blue, maybe there will be a display 'little blue pill' to fix our phone's 'pentile dysfunction' but if there isn't (or it's not possible) I have zero regrets about my decision to buy a Nexus One...

<JUST SAYIN/>
[Nexus One General] maxh:
You're right; my bad.
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
Actually I think it is this checker-boarding, even more than the lower resolution itself, which is responsible for most of the issues where you can see the lower resolution. The text antialiasing, for example, has a red stippled noise along the edges that looks a lot like they didn't take the alternation of the red pixels into account when choosing which sub-pixels to turn on.

If the edges were "cleaner" then I don't think the resolution would be as noticeable. (Just IMO)

I think some software tweaks will make the situation much better, but it will always be a hassle for the software to deal with compared to a cleaner "3 subpixels in every pixel" arrangement that LCDs have... :-(
[Nexus One General] trevorwhopkins:
For what its worth, as far as the white vs black comment, I believe that is unrelated as far as the problem the OP describes. It could be true though.

OLED's like the N1 not only have the deepest blacks, but also use way less power displaying black. That is why the new WP7 is so centered on black, because it's designed for OLED screens and battery life. Maybe thats why Android features alot of black too.

The Droid is not just a different resoultion / color depth, its also a TFT LCD, which is different all around. OLED's are new. Its just first generation tech. Software could help alot, like with the Droid multitouch.
[Nexus One General] hyldetoft:
I'm pretty sure the "lower resolution" is not an issue at all, but as u say it's the PenTile sub-pixel layout that is a problem for many. I think that one has to have good eye sight to be able to notice it since there obviously are many who can't.

People who say it's a non-issue don't know what they are talking about. for many (including myself) the "fuzzy" text is very disturbing. I don't have any problems reading text on an lcd screen with standard RGB sub-pixel layout and with lower resolution but i do have problems with reading text on the Desire (same screen as the Nexus One) and not only very small text but normal size text as well.

Let's end the discussion about this being a real issue or not and focus on finding out if there may be a solution to the problem.

Does anyone know if it's at all possible to create some kind of software patch to tweak the registers and if so, how?
[Nexus One General] behelit:
this has nothing to do with colour banding / checker board or colour issues of any kind, they were all false and related to the 16bit gallery which is software..

the problem is the sub pixel layout which causes edges to extend:

http://blog.javia.org/nexus-one-display-and-subpixel-pattern/

and this is what causes the blurry looking text

in one of the blogs/sites i read that the creators of this screen, or similar versions of it, had the ability to turn this feature off and light each sub pixel individually (green sub pixel as 2 separate sub pixels) or something along those lines but it wasn't clear if this was available in the nexus screen.

i will try to find the link
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
Ummmm...

When I said "checkerboarding" I was specifically referring to the way that the Red and Blue sub-pixels are laid out on the graphic that you posted. If you ignore the green sub-pixels they look like a red/blue checker board, no? That layout does complicate the task of using sub-pixel components to antialias text (the standard algorithms for which assume that all pixels have the same 3 sub-pixels laid out in the same order).

My comment had nothing to do with the false comments made by the "engineers" at DisplayMate.
[Nexus One General] GldRush98:
This.

Anyone who claims otherwise, is a liar. The human eye can not differentiate pixels that small.
[Nexus One General] krabman:
Looks great to me and looks great to everyone that looks at the phone and a lot of people do because they are attracted to the screen which, lol, looks great. Honestly I am not trying to make light of what is a problem for some but I cant help but wonder how many people would have this issue if they hadnt read about it. My guess would be very few.
[Nexus One General] jz9833:
Then I guess I don't have human eyes because I can see a blurry effect.

I've been well documented to love my n1 but the screen issue is a real issue. This comes down do how your mind puts together a picture. when looking at the n1 my mind usually creates a blurred spot on one part of the screen and its always there until I focus on it. this tells me it is indeed the screen causing this.

This is kinda of similar to how 1080i tv work. Th screen itself is only producing part of the picture but your mind does the rest. for the oled on the n1 this did not work out.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broken89:
I did my research but I'm still unsure of a few things.

Once you root your device there is no going back if there is a problem with your phone and need to send it back HTC will know or can you completely go back to 100% unroot/stock like you could with the HTC Magic? Is this true?

I don't plan on installing a custom ROM I just want to use some root programs such as WiFi teather. Will I still get OTA updates from Google?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eclair~:
Wow every single question you just asked has been asked so many times its not even funny..

There really REALLY needs to be a Rooting 101 thread to inform people properly of what rooting does and is, and what are the benefits. Searching just isn't happening it seems..
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broken89:
I'm still searching the forums for definitive answers to my questions and I'm not finding them.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martin0285:
@ Eclair-I have a feeling people don't see the page2 button at the bottom....

@ Broken89- Search back a few pages.....answer is NO.....N1 un-locking is final.....There is no going back *YET*!!!!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eclair~:
- You will not get OTA updates unless you install the stock ROM and the default recovery (or so I heard, don't know about the recover part) though many ROMs include OTA features before they are released. Like himem (using all the available RAM), trackball colors, and gif image support.

- Once you unlock your bootloader (which you have to do to root) you cannot at this time re-lock it on our N1's. Notice I said 'at this time'. It seems HTC is still covering hardware defects such as dust and touch screen calibration issues for SOME people, while others are being charged or refused. You can unroot, but you cannot relock your unlocked bootloader.

- WiFi tethering I believe may still require custom ROMs.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broken89:
I went far beyond page 10 in both QA and General. I don't know if I just overlooked what I was looking for or what.

Meh you were right apparently the stock kerenel dosent support it. If I update the Kerenl will I still get OTA Updates from google? and would there be any harm from doing so?

Thanks for the help guys.
[Touch 3G ROM Development] fedrat:
screenshots please?
[Touch 3G ROM Development] fletchertv:
:D GREAT!!!!! installed on my orange uk touch 33(jade 110) with no problems cheers Mua30
[Touch 3G ROM Development] fletchertv:
Just wondering is there anyway to remove the applications i will never use to free up mem??? i can only remove google maps and windows theme. Thanks Fletch
[Touch 3G ROM Development] hsirk:
some one can put up screenshots for others to give it a try..

memory details ram rom..
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
Pal,

Next version will gave more memory for storage
[Touch 3G ROM Development] haree:
which one do i download

hi

their seems to be 2 files which one do i download and are they in English ie WWE:confused:
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
Bro,

The 1st one contain all std apps that came with original rom from HTC, the second contain updated Opera 10, and facebook, also added app similar to XDA-shutdown, the 1st rom is 62 MB free, the second is about 52 MB Free.
[Touch 3G ROM Development] haree:
hi

thanks for ur reply but this is WWE right ie English rom as ur title says ARA i assume it means Arabic :D

and in the four share download it says 23459 but u say 23451 kindly clarify on the build and the language
[Touch 3G ROM Development] netstaruk:
attached image shows build as 23459, and images show menu pages in english but would also like to know for sure if this is English or Arabic for certain.......
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
All apps taken from the official HTC ARA ROM, the translation removed, it supported with Arabic, its WWE with arabic support.
[Touch 3G ROM Development] haree:
hi

ok thanks buddy for ur kind reply will try and give feedback:D
[Touch 3G ROM Development] netstaruk:
installed on my orange uk touch 3g(jade 110) with no problems cheers
[Touch 3G ROM Development] meissteel:
will it work on a htc jade 3g t3232 clone??
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
I guess not, the hardware may vary, also the installation procedure is deffer .

Thx
[Touch 3G ROM Development] meissteel:
ok... thanks :)

have a nice day
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
search in chinese forums, you will find a lot of roms for ur clone :-)
[Touch 3G ROM Development] netstaruk:
just spotted a big flaw, this rom wont let me play my itunes aac/m4a files so its gotta go bud :(
[Touch 3G ROM Development] 213182:
hi how i have to apply the opera update file after flashing my rom with the 1st file?
[Touch 3G ROM Development] taiki87:
Works like a charm!! Thanks!!!
[Touch 3G ROM Development] XDAN00B:
Other link?

Concerning:

Windows Phone 6.5.1 : v10 Mega core 21916 Date : 12/4/2010

I tried to download it tru 4shared, but without succes.

The 17/10/10 version in downloadable tho.(works like a charm :) !)

Is there another link available?

Thanks,
[Touch 3G ROM Development] meshkahty:
thank you so much

I've used this version ( jade_v10_mega_core21916 final) i think it's perfect but I've two notes

first the free space it need to be to increase

second the photos zooming and rotate is so weak

i hope you answer me so soon
[Touch 3G ROM Development] pcfreakske:
installed

Windows Phone 6.5.1 : v10 Mega core 21916 Date : 12/4/2010 yesterday

1 small problem; the text size when creating an SMS is too small.

Normal size for te he messages only when creating one it is too small.

I tried everything turn more zoom level for typing, also increase text size..

without a solution..

All the other sutf works great
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
Hiiiiiii

Hi i have a request please ..

i think it will be great if the is com2 v10 but without touchflo ,,,

i didn't use it for long time and i think it will be faster and more space if it is just standard rom and will be easier to use any other interface like spb shell or pointui home2 :D:D

i hope u answer me :D
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
try this link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8284313#post8284313
[Touch 3G ROM Development] diskrisk:
please put hungarian language and regional support into the next ROM

thanks!
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
Brothers & Pals,

I had the honor to make some roms and share with u, but unfortunately i may stop working on these roms, hence i may change my mobile soon. Have good day & fun.:o
[Touch 3G ROM Development] freednd:
*sry* to hear that.. but thanks for your work

using your roms for quite a while..

you said somthing about a german rom, any news from that project ?
[Touch 3G ROM Development] UNREAL_AHW:
:(

Bad news for me...

I downloaded Windows Phone 6.5.1 : v10 Mega core 21916 Date : 12/4/2010... every thing went fine except the Wi-Fi is not working & cannot detect any signals at all.

I would really appreciate it if you can help me to troubleshoot this issue.

Many Thanks in advance

BR,
[Touch 3G ROM Development] MAKGH:
Good Job

I'm using v10 com 2 core21916 final, amazingly perfect. :cool:

the best ROM I've used ever, the appearance is just like original htc ROMs with no bug almost.

Thank You mua30, you are the best.
[Touch 3G ROM Development] wassat1903:
i set v10 Mega core 21916 version up and it is awsome. thanks a lot but i need an improvement.

the voice of calls is really low. i cant hear the caller clear.

how can i solve this?
[Touch 3G ROM Development] shahrulazahar:
i like this rom but i couldnt find any Power function under System where i can charge using USB cable via laptop/desktop. Please help.. i will stick to this ROM if this issue fix :D
[Touch 3G ROM Development] tablighs:
Hi,

Why is it when i tried to download the files from 4shared, i get some random mp3 song? i already tried again and again from the mega folder to the com5 folder, all gives me an mp3 file at the end of the countdown waiting. pls help. thanks
[Touch 3G ROM Development] pawhtiobo:
Thank You...

Thank you very much mua30, simply wonderful your roms... and thank you again for sharing it with us...

I just done the incomming call trick (sound low):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1070074

Just perfect :D
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
is this forum still a live?
[Touch 3G ROM Development] pawhtiobo:
Alive? Yes!...Active? No... :)...until today....

See ya....
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
I didnt understand u well, but if u need to update the opera, just download it in to SD, the run installer from ur device!!!
[Touch 3G ROM Development] thomas01_58:
Feed Back

Hi,

Have Flashed your Jade_V1_ARA Rom .

I like the concept having the stabilty of the 6.1 Orignal Rom ,with functionability of the 6.5.5 ,especially ease of usage .

However I think there is still is lot of work to be done.The system seem to hang quite often and only a soft re set seems to be the solution.I am going to try your other Rom to see if its any better.

I wonder if its possible for you to make a "Lite" rom with the same concept.After I finish with my "personal customization" I have hardly have 20MB of Storage memory left.

Over all I think its a good idea,and with a little modifications ,it should turn out to be a very good rom.

Thanks once again,for all your effort.

Will keep you posted on any problems that I might have.

Regards,

Thomas
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
New build is ready now, support more arabic functionality, just want to wait to check if i can make bilingual interface, also to modify more oem packages, and may rewrite some dlls like I did with OPAL.

PPL who agreed to remove all manila and switch to SPB Shell pls advise, also you can gave more hints and topics that could help me to build more powerful build.

Thx...:cool:
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
Rom Version 2 is uploaded
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
i tried v2 std arabic ... it is very good till now the only bugs for me are the vibration on taping close and start menu .... and obex inbox didn't work

any help please
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
there is big problem .... resco explorer not working on this rom is works in part of the screen ... i need help for this problem please ... it is big problem for me
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
i will upload a fixed version 2night, hope it will fix ur problem
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
i still have this problem with resco explorer 2010 ... it dosen't fit to screen .... and i cant live without resco explorer so any help in this problem
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
Pal, Its not problem of my rom, its problem of 6.5.x branches which had buttom bar instead of top bar, like COM2.

Anyway, i had read somewhere for a solution for resco problem, i will search and upload fix for u, so smile man :-)
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
i know .. your rom is amazing i really like it as it is light and look like original htc roms ...... about resco explorer i searched and found e-native position fix but it didn't work for me ..... so if there is any other solution i will be thankful ...... and thanks again for the rom
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
in order to resolve these issues and run resco download this file http://www.box.net/shared/0cv72i0ctx,

choose automatic fix 6.5.3, and automatic detect and window child.

This until i find final solution, although i hate this solution, may be i will go to programming. :(
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
thanks for your help ..... but i will use the file explorer .... and i tried to contact resco for this problem with 6.5.x windows mobile devices and i will wait for any other solution .... thanks again
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
I am uploading new rom V2 Com 2, this will end ur suffer with resco, hence new COMs needs a lot of work.
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
thanks a lot i will try it soon ..... but what do you mean by a lot of work ?????

and about resco they told me that they are already developing it for wm 6.5.x and it will be ready soon
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
Its not a matter just of resco explorer, Win 6.5.x should be compatible with older GUI Apps, but not this what happened
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
the link of v2 com2 removed after i downloaded it ... is there any problem with the rom , cause i will try it tomorrow ???????????
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
wait till evening
[Touch 3G ROM Development] haree:
reg V2

hi

is ur V2 with bottom start menu cause im really confy with bottom start menu
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
No Bro, its top start menu.

Buttom Start menu will start work on it after a while, hence i need to debug some DLLs, I am not working to resolve the issue of PhoneCanvas Call log or Incoming call dialog just, i wanna fix the whole issue. so be patient

Thx :rolleyes:
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
i am using v2 com2 now ... it is so perfect for me ... i like it very much tanks a lot you are the best
[Touch 3G ROM Development] aamd01:
Excellent work and I am from long time looking for Arabic Rom, but I lost some of the applications that run on 6.1 Roms, if possible, to guide me how I Cook Rom and add Arabic language, I will be grateful for you.
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
v2 com2 is working great for me thanks again for the great rom but the only bug now is the notification problem .... my phone make no sound or vibration when i receive text sms the green light in the top only works and when i open my phone using power button it makes the sound and vibrate ..... so if you can help me with this it will be the best rom ever for me

the phone also freezes when i try to press the power button to turn the screen on it dosent response .... and i have to perform soft rest
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
For the 1st one, will manipulate in V3, for phone freez, its bug in build 21901, and it doesnt happened all the time, this bug call SOD (Sleep of death). I am working on new build 21903, but i need some time to give real something strong this time. so gimme some time pal.

Thx
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
take your time man ... i can live with this bugs now .... and again your rom is amazingly fast and you already did great work so keep on

thx again
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
new version 2_A com2 is uploded with lot of fixed bugs.
[Touch 3G ROM Development] aaiuranus:
thank you for Windows Phone 6.5.5 : v2 core 23563,it's the good rom for me.:)
[Touch 3G ROM Development] haree:
hi

is this with bottom start menu:confused:
[Touch 3G ROM Development] dreamdreamt:
It is with top start menu, but my mobile operator is not in the list of operators and couldn't set up my connection
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
i tried v2A it is good till now ... but i dont like audio manager now it was better before ...... and scrolling in touchflo is not very good ... but it is working with no problems till now .... and i did 2 hard resets like you said
[Touch 3G ROM Development] tcchuin:
Windows Phone 6.5.1 : v2_A core 21901

can you include manilla mega for this rom?thx
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
about v2A the answer key dosent work and when i slide to answer it just cancel the call
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
???? Its working with me!!!!
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
i dont know sometimes it works good and sometime not working ... when i restart my phone it works fine again ..... sorry for my complain but i just wanted to tell you every thing .... and again thanx for your effort and i am waiting for any thing new .....
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
V3 COM 2 had been uploaded
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
what are the differences between v3 and v2 ??????????

and do i have to install the tftsett cab like v2 or do hard rest !!!!!!!!
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
V2A had no need to install tftsett, V3 already had these settings, also the core had changed to newer one, and more space
[Touch 3G ROM Development] drmidoo:
good work .... i will try it tonight thx
[Touch 3G ROM Development] tcchuin:
bro,possible to include mega manilla in this rom?

Windows Phone 6.5.1 : v3 core 21903

* Features :

- STD Manila

- Updated All Packages from the latest WWE for europe

- Facebook Updated

- Eng/Ara keyboard

- GMaps Added

- Fast & Stable

- Arabic Enabled

- Page POOL Size 14 MB

- Opimized performance

- Free Space 88 MB

- Some DLLs were re assembled & re compiled.

- Battery performance: Perfect
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
yes possible, and in arabic "tekram eyonak" :)
[Touch 3G ROM Development] thomas01_58:
Keyboard Problem

Hi,

When typying a mail and I need to type in the mail ID in the "to""cc""bcc" ,the Compact Qwerty and Full Qwerty key boards to not function and some time the phone has to be Re Set .This problem is not there with the regular Key Board.Also this problem is not there when using the Compact Qwerty and Full Qwerty keyboards when typing the main body of the message.

Sorry I did not mention it earlier but this problem was there with your earlier Roms too,

Regards,

Thomas
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
did u do hard reset!!

hence i tried it and did not face this trouble!! did u install incompatible software!! pls advise what u have at ur device! :rolleyes:
[Touch 3G ROM Development] mua30:
V4 COM2 Core 21904

For all pals & bro, iam deeply sorry for ver2, 2A, 3, 3A, I had fixed a new version with the following fixes :

* Bluetooth

* Wifi

* Keyboard

* space

* vol

Pls accept my appologies. I will uploaded now. after 2 hrs it will be available :confused: