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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] EkoTonic:
Installed from app store. Went searching for Helix and got 2 versions. Installed 1st and was trying to figure out how much I liked it. Noticed it made things faster, so I was loving that. But then decided to see if settings->scrn size option allowed me to jam more apps on the front page. So, I was playing with that, I believe {set it to 1?}.

As I would be hitting the Home page, it kept asking me how I wanted to complete that action, Default or Helix? So, I made Helix the default action. Then at one point, I was unable to return to the Home page.

Misery followed..

Now, I see from djmcnz's posting that there is supposed to be some sort of warning somewhere, but none on the App store intro of the app.

In either case, imho, it's not ok for an app to risk this kind of loss of functionality, not to mention data.

FYI, I have not left any of the negative comments that show in the app store. I understand the developers behind this app are proud of their work and rightly so. I however will not risk it again. It's not that important to me to be bleeding edge.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] djmcnz:
Yes, sorry I was referring to notices in this forum.
[Desire General] stewalker:
Hi i was just wondering has anyone on orange received the update yet?
[Desire General] langers1:
Nope not yet but I was wondering did anyone get a sd card in the box when the phone arrived? It says there should be one on the box but i cant find it
[Desire General] dainesefreak:
Take the back off the phone and it's in there by the SIM.
[Desire General] langers1:
OK im retarded lol

Thanks
[Desire General] dainesefreak:
No probs.;)
[Desire General] LeeDroid:
No OTA update needed, Orange desire is the only device shipped with the update applied.... 720p HD video capture + divx support
[Desire General] Nekromantik:
your the 2nd person to say that but we have not had any confirmation about this.
[Desire General] timmyp27:
My Orange Desire will not capture 720p video, or play DIVX.

Phone is running 2.1-update1 with software number 1.15.61.9 if thats of any use?
[Desire General] rhedgehog:
No, the orange one will not ship with the 720p video recording, that is a future update and still just rumoured.

orange will have the same rom on it as the others, 1.15

BTW, t-mobile updates should be starting tomorrow over OTA.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bored2nite:
this question has been asked before, i have searched as I know many will request me to do. The problem is there has been no solution yet, and possibly A) because not enough are away of it and B) because it hasn't been asked in the right way.

almost all the cooks, and devs have worked and manipulated 2.1 and 2.5 to their liking so i believe there has to be a way to fix this:

In manila 2.1, when facebook was logged in to, and the profile picture was updated with the FB pic, that picture was also updated to the WM directory and then would save to outlook. Most people brought this up when it stopped happening in 2.5 because of the dialer, but my reason is for the outlook part.

Now what I would like from the devs, if anyone can check, HOW 2.1 saved the pic (like what was the registry setting) compared to 2.5 causing the latter to not save to the WM contact directory itself. All i know now, is 2.5 saves it in a path of windows\fbcontacts.

I searched registry settings last night, left and right in hkcu and hklm, to software, htc, then manila to see how it handled "people" but no luck there as i don't know how to add values to make it do what I want.

Thank you in advance, and I hope we can come up with a solution.

P.S. I understand there are other "programs" namely booksync and outsync but if we can fix this it will completely eliminate the need of having to use our pc just to "try" to match it up with our phones (since with outsync you can't manually link profiles like our manila 2.5 fb can.)
[Desire General] sh500:
I've just attempted creating one of these but when I came to saving the new modified 'image' on the card itself, the HxD program gave me a CRC error. Got same message on two different PCs using the same SanDisk MicroSD card.

It just wouldnt let me save the image and I was forced to close down the program after which point my card was no longer readable by either PC or phone. The card stuff on it before I began and both PC and phone recognised it.

1) Anyone used one of these cards to perform this?

2) Recommendations for a decent low-level format utility so I can try again? The Pansonic utility thinks 'my device (card) is unsupported'

Thanks
[Desire General] Arthur Hucksake:
I used one of these cards and recall I had to format it using an app called Paragon Partition manager after that happened.
[Desire General] sh500:
Think I'll have to try the whole thing on another card. Tried many times on this one and no joy.
[Desire General] amarko5:
I think it totally depends on the card reader personally, as I used a 2gig sandisk with no problems. Using a sandisk sd adaptor and a sandisk sdhc to usb adaptor

Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Desire General] patterns:
definately - it depends on the card reader.

make sure you are using a proper one, not a modem dongle or the phone

and format first
[Desire General] sh500:
I'm using a multi-card reader, will try and get hold of a single branded SD reader and try again.
[Off-topic] Paul22000:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/live-from-apples-iphone-os-4-event/
[Off-topic] grainysand:
Wow, they finally got around to basic functionalities after three years. Functionalities that Symbian and WinMo were doing since forever. Very revolutionary and magical. Color me awed.

Just about the only thing Android needs to do to "catch up" is a better multi-tasking UI. Then again, considering the iPhone OS 4.0 will handle a grand total of seven tasks--as opposed to Android showing the last six apps used--well...
[Off-topic] jarude:
folders!!! haha.
[Off-topic] Paul22000:
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Off-topic] Austin021296:
Well atleast there starting to catch up

Steve really outdid himself this time :)
[Off-topic] SubyWill:
this is so funny hahaha. they're taking things that phones have already been able to do and making it such a big deal. apple can suck deez nutz.

i can't wait till android os 3.0!!!
[Off-topic] britoso:
They just got wallpapers, maybe OS5 will match Eclair.
[Off-topic] SubyWill:
LOL so true :D
[Off-topic] azalex86:
So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...

Am I missing something?
[Off-topic] Paul22000:
Yes, Apple just ripped off a bunch of features from Android, which will undoubtedly drive iSheep sales up.
[Off-topic] craigacgomez:
ohhh! a bunch of stuff that almost every other phone already has... android, winMo, WebOS...
[Off-topic] jasrups:
Nope, you're not. However for the masses, this update will be very well received. Yes its ridiculous that they took so long to incorporate multitasking and folder functionality, but better late than never.

I was disappointed that there wasn't any interface change, the icon grids seem archaic. The iBook app will be huge. Overall, I think this is what most people were expecting in terms of a software update. The real big news will be whether a hardware update will accompany OS4 (unibody iPhone would be nice).

For now the Nexus still has an edge but the gap is narrowing
[Off-topic] azalex86:
Yeah. I was thinking of the big things they could do on the hardware side, but I'm not entirely sure they want to split their market up. People are still using the iPhone 3G, if they do a massive upgrade on hardware, app developers will have to verify it works on 3 different platforms.

Maybe they are just planning on phasing out the 3G completely by next year (considering they were hinting at the lesser features for 3G's OS4), and then using the current 3GS as minimum spec. If they increase screen resolution, they'll have to write some scaling processes as well (a lot can be seen in the iPad)
[Off-topic] MadFlava:
They dropped the bomb until they put this dud out.

I own a bunch of Apple devices and Ive had an iPhone before. Im not a hater, I just dont think it's cutting edge anymore. I even have an iPad so you can't say Im an apple hater ;)
[Off-topic] tamanaco:
Is just another iPhone... but still Google needs to get their act together in a few areas. I borrowed a N1 for few days and like it very much, but I have been reluctant to take the plunge because of the following shortcomings:

Google needs to allow Contacts, Tasks and Notes to sync to the N1 (locally and remotely) using Google apps. It also needs to either enhance the Calendar application or make it play nice with Outlook desktop calendar functions. Me and whole bunch of other people I know, are very comfortable with Outlook to manage their email, time, contacts and tasks. Help us migrate to Android and to the Google apps without so much fuzz. Don't leave it to third parties. I don't want to risk my critical data to a vendor that is here today, but might not be here tomorrow. I'm not very happy leaving all my critical data in the cloud, but if I'm going to do it... Google needs to help me get there. Security and the integrity of my data are important. I have confidence in Google, but not on third party vendors for this critical step.

The Music Player needs enhancement and a Google desktop application to manage one's Music Library and multiple playlist is needed. Most decent portable DAP have such application. Maybe Google can partner or acquire a vendor that knows how to do this right.

Just like the new iPhone the inbox of Android needs to be bit more friendly with other email service providers. As with the new IPhone OS 4, multiple Exchange servers should be supported along with the option to have multiple and merged inboxes.

I wonder if others feel the same way. I also know that there are other issues that need to be addressed, but in my case the top two are very important.
[Off-topic] Eclair~:
The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.

Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.

Also, tamanaco, I believe Sense does most of what you said. Don't believe the Nexus is a very friendly business device...
[Off-topic] jasrups:
I agree with you in that there's no need for them to boost their specs at this point, but I was referring more to a cosmetic facelift. The iPhone has pretty much looked the same for 3 years now and I think even Apple fanboys can agree that everyone is tired of the design.
[Off-topic] tamanaco:
So, if I understand you correctly... The N1 is "not" a Music Player... is "not" meant for business... and as you say is "not" for me. So, in your book it's only good to make calls and find yourself on a map? It's called a "Superphone"... What's else is it good for?
[Off-topic] maxawesome:
I just pray for it to include VPN, proxy settings, full Exchange support (including tasks), WPA-Enterprise...

But I'm guessing it won't.
[Off-topic] jasrups:
This is not an excuse IMO, the music player definitely needs an update. This is the one area where iPhone has a real advantage over Android. Most users would rather carry one device for everyday use, I know I certainly would.
[Off-topic] Paul22000:
Get Sense UI (link in my sig). I think it will address many of your concerns :)
[Off-topic] tamanaco:
This is exactly how I feel. Given that Google is making inroads in the Multimedia Business (Google TV comes to mind)... I'm a bit disappointed with the state of the native music player in the N1 and with the lack of either a Google desktop application or even a third party music application that is "officially" supported by Google on Android. Most "Smarphones" should have some "solid" core applications. PDA Functions, Music Player, Video Player and a Sync application that works with the desktop. I understand that Google is all about cloud computing... but Google applications need to be the in the intermediate step (the desktop) to help me move my data to the cloud. This is a critical step to migrate the vast majority of potential users who currently have "all" their data on the desktop.
[Off-topic] ap3604:
Google will eventually come out with this feature for sure. As good as they have been coming out with amazing features (Navigation, Dictation, Google Voice, etc) they should have all of our confidence that they are looking out for our best interests (Compared to evil Apple).
[Off-topic] tamanaco:
Paul22000, thanks for the pointer... I'd definitely look into modifying my N1 when I get it... But in the meantime, I think Google needs to get the message that while Android is a great "platform"... It also needs dependable and easy to use core functions to support those of us that have been living in the Desktop<->Smarphone Sync world and want to move to the Cloud<->Smartphone Sync world. The intermediate steps (bridge apps) should be provided by and supported by Google.
[Off-topic] Paul22000:
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D:D:D:D:D
[Off-topic] Amdathlonuk:
Oooooh, I see a lawsuit coming!! :D:D
[Off-topic] kosworld:
ahhahahhaa iphone os is very very bad lol
[Off-topic] rjhay22:
LOL IMO its a joke, a desperate attempt to compete with the Nexus one... Of course I could be biased... I gave up my 3gs for the N1 and I love it! :)
[Off-topic] AbsoluteDesignz:
I was about to make this topic. lol...when I saw the folders I was like WOWWWOWWW, talk about direct copying...Android when they have similar features (which is pretty much just icons on a homescreen and scrolling horizontally between homescreens, other than that there really is no comparison amongst intelligent folk between Android and iPhone).

Also, as an unbiased Android fan...I was VERY disappointed by the look of OS 4.0...It may just be me, but that UI is seriously outdated....I was expecting something at least reminiscent of the OSX Tiger to OSX Leopard updates...slight modification, but a much needed modernization....instead we get iPhone OS 1.0 with a few more bells and whistles attached.

No thanks Apple...I'll wait for 5.0
[Off-topic] jz9833:
Apple probably found a way to patient multitasking.
[Off-topic] Eclair~:
I know that was a joke, but I don't believe something like that can really be patented at this point in time.. they might be able to patent how the iPhone does it, but the multi tasking system has been around too long to simply just be patentend, it would stop innovation to a point..
[Off-topic] DarkDvr:
:D:D:D LOL
[Off-topic] jz9833:
i was joking, but if you think about it, apple has patiented almost everything it has put on its iphone. I wouldnt doubt that they at least have a patient on the system on which how they are doing it because they claim it to be energy efficent.

They way it was explained seems like when you switch away from an app its like a pause button, and when you switch back it just resumes. For media (music) there is a way around this by alow the media to keep playing, but they even said the entire app will not be running.

Is this really multitasking? It might prove to be a good way to do things for simple programs, but they are going to run into some headaches if people want to run 2 things entirely.

For example, I wonder if when you are loading a webpage, switch to pandora, and then switch back if the download was paused. The way it was explained this seems likely to happen.

I can see the benefit that programs won't have to be started from scratch, but don't give me a pause button and call it multitasking.
[Off-topic] ScottC:
What rebuttal? Google had an answer for iPhone OS 4.0 back with Cupcake :D
[Off-topic] trinode:
Contacts are synced, or my phone's magic :/
[Off-topic] DarkDvr:
Top Secret developer video of Apple releasing iPhone 4 and what a HUGE EXPLOSION it made.

Warning: contains really excited Apple developers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zhovQXJY-g&NR=1

"Let's stand back, it's gonna be pretty big!"

"Put it out with ur boots or some sh*t"
[Off-topic] ztm.000:
but they took their time, and i'm sure that most everyone can agree that their versions of simple things that should have been implemented early on are the best on any mobile OS.

sorry, but im falling for this one...

but i reaaaaallly really hope that Google's retaliation to this is amazing, if it is, im just gonna stick with android... but it has to be AMAZING
[Off-topic] mesajoejoe:
Care to explain what features they ripped off from Android, that werent already features from other phones in the past?

Desperate is a Very strong word. You do realize that there are a lot of other android based phones out there right? To say there latest os update is directed solely at one single android based phone is ignorant

Every single kid/adult/parent/child has an iPhone... they must be doing something right, nuff said.

I have had my N1 since day 1 and I love it, however there are so many small details that I wish were better this or better that. Bottom line is its an open source platform, unlike iPhone OS. People seem to forget they are 2 entirely different beasts and try to compare them as if they are the same. Just my 2 cents
[Off-topic] xManMythLegend:
Not to bash...I havent seen the interface or videos.... whats the point of multitasking without notifications ?

Do they have an in app notification system now ?
[Off-topic] ap3604:
Sometimes I wish all Apple products besides iPod's had anthrax on them :(
[Off-topic] Amdathlonuk:
Almost everyone had a Model T ford..... because it was all that was available at the time.

Even though they forgot to put reverse gear in the first models..
[Off-topic] SiNJiN76:
So, they were just talking about the OS and not the forthcoming iPhone this summer?
[Off-topic] fahim_k:
Its the OS that they will use in the coming iPhone.
[Off-topic] attn1:
Oh sure, like how they are trying to say they invented certain "patented" gestures.

Here's one they can't patent:

_ _ | _ apple
[Off-topic] galaxys:
I'm so impressed with iphonie os4 progress :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] fahim_k:
great article from pcworld

http://www.pcworld.com/article/193857/apples_iphone_os_40_no_threat_to_android.html?tk=twt_pcw
[Off-topic] johnnie93:
IPhone OS4 is just a Android rip off, I mean customizable wallpaper OLD ... folders Very old! Multitasking is available from the g1 days , I don't like Apple they use other peoples ideas and when people use their multi touch pinch to zoom they just freak out and start to sue people Apple sucks! Google FTW!

Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Off-topic] imperiallight:
How can you call a ubiquitous phone feature old and then a copy at the same time? Are you retarded enough to think that Apple didn't know how to implement it in its earlier versions? It was a design choice.

You are talking about a manufacturer who reshaped the way we think about smartphones and who have caused manufacturers such as HTC to copy as much of their success as possible.

Look at your Nexus and tell me its whole EVOLUTION as a design hasn't been an attempt to usurp the iphone albeit with crappy apps hindering it.
[Off-topic] pjcforpres:
iPhone OS 4.0 is not a game changer at all... it doesn't bring anything new or revolutionary to the table. The iPhone is still going to be the same as it was before, with a few minor tweaks that should have been made years ago.

Personally, I do like Apple in many regards... they execute better than anyone else, no debate there. But they also restrict and limit better than anyone else. Sony used to be the worst for having to buy Sony, then more sony, then even more sony, and it all only works with sony... Apple is way beyond that.
[Off-topic] mesajoejoe:
Seriously people stop calling iPhone OS4 an Android rip off lol.....

I hate iPhone and I will never own one. There is a plethora of other phones out there besides just iPhone. Yet they still are selling millions. Im not saying its right or wrong, but they must be doing something right... idk what it is nor do I wanna care to know but its just fact. Every phone from here on out, for a while id assume, is compared directly with iPhone. iPhone was not the first of its kind, it was just the first most successful one and rest is history.

Hell committing suicide could become the next greatest idea invented by... Joeschmoe. If ppl keep listening to him hes doing something right, nuff said
[Off-topic] rjhay22:
I think it has something to do with the Ipod being the best mp3 player ever made, unchallenged, and the IPhones marketing and advertising that is kicking Androids butt.
[Off-topic] musashiken:
Yup it's called the domino effect by effective marketing. Couple that with peer pressure and it turns everyone to mindless sheep. That's what he's doing right.

Then there are those repulsed by it like me. I'm rather anti-apple and that's not because of the product but the "elitist" marketing and hype.
[Off-topic] xManMythLegend:
Never was never has been.

No custom Equalizer , No open codec support , tied to a single music syncing program , mediocre sound reproduction.

You throw in the abysmal video media support and you have the most overhyped MP3 player of all time.

As a music/movie playback device Ipods have been second rate in functionality since inception.

User input is the only thing theyve ever done well.

Youll never know it becuase people have **** clueless idea of what portable media playback should. The fact most tools are using stock headphones tells me all I need to know about there opinion of the ipod as a music player.
[Off-topic] jasrups:
I think a jail broken iPod Touch is pretty sweet but I admittedly don't know much about MP3 players, what's the best one in your opinion?
[Off-topic] steenlys:
If it was a design CHOICE, then why change it ?

- don't see them opening for unsigned APPS, this is a CHOICE, and they stick to it....
[Off-topic] grainysand:
Are you retarded enough to think that they didn't cave in and added these "design choices" because of, among other things, the success of Android?
[Off-topic] bradsh1:
iPod sound reproduction is pretty much the best on the market. As an audiophile, I'm just going to say you're flat out wrong about that. The rest of your criticisms are fine, but not that. The sound reproduction is pretty much the best, and the sound reproduction on the iPhone through the headphone jack is also pretty much the absolute best among phones. It even beats the Nexus One. This has been scientifically, empirically tested in a lab -- there is no sense arguing this point. It's simply the truth, like it or not.

iPhone/iPod have many, many flaws. Music reproduction is not among them.
[Off-topic] DMaverick50:
Literally half of my friends have iphones and none care about multitasking or even understand that they don't have it because apples important apps do something close enough to multitasking. I used to try and show off by doing two things at once and ask them rhetorically if they could do that, and they all could. I'm not saying apples decision to extend their version of multitasking had nothing to do with android, I just don't have any proof that it did.
[Off-topic] vegetaleb:
So OS 4 will be compatible with Ipod Touch 2g?

Anyway who's the apple advertising boy who put an obvious fanboy title like that? ;)
[Off-topic] cheetah2k:
Is Apple re-inventing the wheel???

Fk me, Windows & Android phones have had most of these features for like forever!

I wonder when Apple will start charging iphone users for OS updates? They've been doing it for the touch, now the ipad. Maybe the iphone HD will suffer the same conseqence.

Apple = revenue generating machine but lacking any "real" talent