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[Windows Mobile Software Development] mkucuksari:
Hi meltwater,

Thanks for your explanations :) Please find my comments at below :)

Still could not see any difference, sorry, may be I can not see it. :o Can any user confirm it, please ?

Okey I get the point :)

Thanks for detail info. So it is not a bug, it is normal.

During the first test, I had already used "Long Press- Copy". I re-try again, but it did not work for me with "Opera-10"

Supeer, thanks please check and if possible share the fix. It will be very very usefull :)

Will wait your reply about it

Glad to hear that I am clear enough :D

Again many thanks for your effort and work that you have done up to now.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Software Development] madindehead:
@ mkucuksari

The advanced settings enables more settings in the various settings options. Before, when you enabled "Advanced Settings", it would disable again as soon as you exited the settings application. How it saves itself. Try disabling it, and look at the "App & Web Shortcuts" the options will change depending on whether "Advanced Settings" is enabled or not.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mkucuksari:
Hi madindehead,

Thanks for reply.I know the previous beta version problem and I confirm that it is fixed now.

But my problem is, I don't see any difference at submenus when enabling and disabling "Advanced Setting" option:o
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
It was part of the original design, to avoid too much tinkering with settings which take a little understanding to avoid messing things up, but it makes sense to keep it enabled if set.

Check that you have a registry entry called Facebook.SettingsAdv, in HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila, set to 0 for normal and 1 for advanced.

You will find options to edit, remove and add entries for web and app shortcuts are only visible when in advance mode, plus a number of other options in the other subpages.

The web-page settings are:

Mobile "m.facebook.com/"

iPhone "touch.facebook.com/"

desktop "www.facebook.com/home.php?m2w"

The "/" was important from what I remember.

I'm on Opera 10 beta, shouldn't be too different. If none of the address is selected, it just gives you the copy/paste option which applies to the whole address bar (even though it's not selected).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mkucuksari:
Hi meltwater,

Sorry I was my mistake :o. I have just seen the extra options appear by "Advanced " option. I already make some changes and it also works perfect. So I can confirm that it works PERFECT:D

Sorry for taking your time :o

PS. I have tried and edited "Mobile" adress to find the correct URL to open directly at "OPERA-10", but could not success.

Hope you may find the RIGHT URL for "Mobile" as you have already done for "Desktop":rolleyes:

Mobile "m.facebook.com/home.php?" did not work. Still only opens "OPERA-10" with adress "www." and does not display facebook page
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Hi meltwater,

i have installed the last version on a clean system with the right language files. Also the dutch file, but after i have checked the button for nl-nl i had a popup with the message:

The selected language file is invalid ()

Strange thing. Because i had used once the last english version and have translated to dutch. What's that now, any idea?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
I think the xml pass didn't complete which means probably a format error. Will look at the file when I get home.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Hi meltwater,

thank's for the check you will do.

Another question i have (yoda says):

Which is the default directory for the facebook things. Because my is on the storage card and i have no one on the tab. Only myself on the top. That's strange because i have more then 5 allways active friends.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Agent Zach:
Default directory is /Program Files/FacebookUtil.

But if it's not reading your contacts, that may be a manila issue.. As the tab fetches the "Updates & Events" information from the Manila Contacts "All People".
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Hi Agent Zach,

i don't mean the facebookutil.exe. I mean the chache directory. On mine it is:

storage card = dutch = Opslagkaart

\Opslagkaart\Mijn\facebook_cache and

\Opslagkaart\Mijn\FBContacts
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Location of Facebook profile pictures:

\windows\FBContacts\

At the moment, I don't think this can be changed.

Location of Facebook albums:

\OnlineAlbumTemp\

Used for the HTC facebook album links.

The other location (MS Cache) is not related to the tab, just the Microsoft Facebook Application.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
try putting http:// before them, sounds like opera is trying to be "helpful", automatically adding www.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Hi meltwater,

That's right. After change this path and a restart of the phone the old path was back.

This is mine: \Opslagkaart\Mijn\facebook_cache

Ok, i will do a test with the other one.

And also not changeable...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mkucuksari:
Hi,

Tried but did not work :( What is the method, URL, argument that you are using at "Use Default Browser & Paste Code" autherization method.

Because it works there and successfull send URL to OPERA-10 and opens the necessary home page.

Sorry if I am boring , but it will be perfect if we can find a solution for it :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Sounds odd, unfortunately the menu item calls are from sense, the default browser call thing is done from windows mobile code. Unfortunately doesn't do it for me, so you'll have to try different things yourself. My guess is opera is seeing a url call without www. and adding it by default, perhaps try changing your default browser to internet explorer to see if the call works with that instead.

Ah, ok you are right, the MS one is saving in the wrong reg location (cut and paste error on my part), well spotted.

Had a look and tried the lang file, I get the same problem, I can't see anything visually wrong, but stepped through the code and it is thrown by the xml parser. You can test by renaming to .xml and opening in internet explorer.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Hi meltwater,

i have found something:

<trans-unit id="IDS_NEW_STATUS_DESC">
<sourceGeef hier uw nieuwe status...</source>

It must be:

<trans-unit id="IDS_NEW_STATUS_DESC">
<source[SIZE=3][B]>[/B][/SIZE]Geef hier uw nieuwe status...</source>

I hope this is the problem. I will test it again and report here.

EDIT 1:

it is working now. Select the phone language and the dutch manila file

is used. But there are still some language issues. I will write it down here.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] romualdrichard:
I found also some tags duplicated in the xml language for the next version. I removed them in the French translation.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] madindehead:
@ meltwater

Just wanted to say, the "Mobile - Touch" page format for authorisation works like a charm! I would maybe say, try and enable that as the default format. It brought up the needed boxes nice and big, and authorised first time. No scrolling needed :)

Excellent work so far melt!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Hi meltwater,

now i am out of my house (body language). "Mobile - Touch" was working as a little baby. Set it and forget it. It was working perfect !!

And now i have the 1st user (friend) in my list. Yes, yes. I think it was the problem with the authorisation access. The webpage wasn't working. After i have read the posting from madindehead (:D) it was clear. I think this must be a part of the discreption and Mobile - Touch must be the default, i think.

The language file problem is solved so far. Some issue but i will post these ones here with possible screenshots.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
All sounds good. I'll post the latest lang file for the beta so people can update, some extra entries I'm afraid. mike2nl - your lang problems will be the missing ones (you have the english lang file with the extra items in already).

Authorisation...I ORIGINALLY had the touch page as the default, but facebook stopped it working (took me a few days last time to realise it wasn't my code)...looks like it's back again!

Happy to put touch as default, preferred it anyway. Which auth method is working for everyone?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Hi meltwater,

i have that issue also with the english file. Strange. But i will post the issues here. Today or tomorrow in the afternoon.

EDIT:

Screenshots done. Screenshot 1,2 and 3 are ok. These are only to show these one. The others are with language issues. But the IDS_ information is to find in the dutch language file. Strange. Screenshot 6 shows that "Desktop - Popup" is the default.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
@meltwater:

one more issue. I have changed the blue status line to the GTX color.

My question is about the blue text. I think i have changed all text colors in the manila file (51B6F88A_manila), but i am not shure because the update :D....

Or have i overseen one file, because the text is still blue.

EDIT 01:

Oops, issue fixed. Not only change the values, but also save the manila file, oops.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wez89:
"Status Update" doesnt appear in my softkey menu.

Everything else seems to work fine, including authorisation..

See sig for rom details
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
I think that is the only one,although might be hardcoded one within the luac file for when items are selected/deselected [UpdateSummaryList.OnSelected & UpdateSummaryList.OnDeselected in 090EF4F3_manila.lua]. I can probably do a version for GTX...

"SummaryName" Color(139, 157, 195, 255) -- medium blue

"SummaryDetail" Color(247, 247, 247, 255) -- light blue

"SummaryTime" Color(139, 157, 195, 255) -- medium blue

For selected, all: Color(59, 89, 152, 255) -- dark blue

Note, I'm only making an exception here for GTX, not offering to make custom files for all! ;)

Note2: The sense files for beta and beta2 are the same.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Yep you are missing the new entries in the lang file that's all.

Yep "Desktop - popup" was the only option which worked, since facebook didn't have "touch" working for a while.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Hi meltwater,

you don't have todo that. I will do the work so far i find the time this week :). But GTX is a high priority theme and i working also with the next GTX beta ;). I think you can see it in the screenshots. BUt thank you very much for the help.

We can put the work together for GTX. Then you are in the supporter list :D:D. I will send you the graphics and the changed manila file, if you wish.

GTX colors are:

40,41,40 ...for the 50, 50, 50 or 51, 51, 51 or 50, 51, 50

0,0,0 ...for the 139, 157, 195

I will check the latest language file again. Because i have used the files from the 1st beta.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Ok, no probs, the less versions I need to keep track of the better.

Still need to get the 192x version cabbed up too, will see if we can build in the same functionality, although I think it'll need it's own custom scripts so will have to wait.

Yep, new language entries from beta1, you'll notice they are in the new/updated items.

Gonna put updates in the bottom of the original Beta Tester Manual Link, still linked on 1st post. Also put the latest language file DraftE.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Sounds like sense hasn't updated correctly, do you get the expand/collapse item too?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
OK, when you wish to have the files... call me (PM)

Language issue solved. I have checked the en-us file (beta 2) and the nl-nl file with winmerge. And yep, different parts in the file. Changed and running without any issue. I have to translate it. But this i will do tomorrow in the office at the afternoon. Because then i have time to mod :D:D.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wez89:
Nope i dont get that item either..only thing which appears is "facebook app, facebook online and settings"

Copied all the files into the correct places (while sense was turned off, overwriting the originals) then reset the phone and enabled sense.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
@wez89:

on installation you had switched off sense?

On yes, reset your phone once again. If this not helps, copy the files once again.

Sometimes the copy function will not work, strange enough but real.

I had have the same issue...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Also don't forget to delete manilafull.xml that will force it to be re-generated (make sure you have the updated Facebook_Pages.xml in the ManilaXml dir, that contains that bit and it is pulled into the manilafull.xml file when it is generated).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wez89:
Thanks for both replies, copied over the original files again and soft reset, the "update status/expand collapse" items now appear, weird how it didnt read it the first time but thanks for the help..much appreciated (:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
@wez89: you are welcome ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
@meltwater:

the dutch language file is translated. There was nothing todo in the morning. Only code review from my own stuff after 1 hour compile excess :). So this hour was enough to translate the manila file, based on the latest files you have posted....
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
That's superb.

So far just one small change for the MS app keys.

Which method of authorisation works for everyone, the internal or the browser code copy? Can then work out which method to have as default and what to hide in normal mode for the authorisation section.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
For me the internal one is working perfect. The other one is not tested yet. I'll do this is the evening, because now i have more then enough work :mad:.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
No problem, sounds like the internal one is fine now for everyone using the "touch" page. Will still keep the other option, but can keep it hidden as an advance setting only.

Will code it up when I get chance and release it for beta3, perhaps even consider beta3 being available for language translations...anyway keep testing it.

Still having problems with the opera 10 links? Anyone else with Opera10 having same issue?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] madindehead:
@ meltwater

What problems with Opera 10 links is that?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
mkucuksari is having issues with www. being added to the Facebook online links when run from the tab. I think it's just opera 10 since works fine with opera10beta.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Captain_Throwback:
Not that this is much, but here's an en-us "translation". Basically I just changed some "s" to "z", but it's what I'm used to looking at :rolleyes:.

Haven't tried the new Beta yet. I will uninstall the previous one and install the new one now. Feedback will be forthcoming.

EDIT: Updated Language File HERE
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
That is great, always prefer translations in native tongue and proper US is kinda essential.

Apart from the lang files, I think all the manila stuff is the same, so shouldn't be a problem to install if you have it already.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Agent Zach:
So far, all is well.

Only nag is the Internal Auth still doesn't work with mine [I honestly think it's due to my ROM, not the FbTab itself], and the Copy & Paste method had a bit of an issue. [page didn't display correctly on the first try, but after a soft-reset, everything went smoothly].

After the soft-reset, did the Copy & Paste method, Succeeded, and all has been well since.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Captain_Throwback:
Feedback

Ok, tab looks good!

A couple of questions/bugs I noticed.

1) Under data connections, when "Advanced" Mode is selected - I can have both the auto-update timer set, AND the original HTC settings selected (every 2 hours) - Is this correct? Does one supersede the other? I also seem to have issues with the tab updating at the selected interval (I don't see the time updated show up on the tab - perhaps it's because I have both selected?). Has anyone else seen this? Is the tab supposed to update whether or not it's the active tab, or was that issue not yet overcome? (although it could just be me)

2) Again, using the Advanced Settings, when I change the path of the selected application (say, for the FB app), and then choose "Browse" to change the location, once I find the app I want to select, and press it, the file doesn't stay highlighted, nor can I double-click it to select it. If I press it, I have to assume it's been selected, and when I press the select soft key, it does select. It's more just a cosmetic thing, I think.

3) I believe this one's been mentioned - Using the Advanced Settings - when changing the auth page format to "Mobile - Touch" and then going back, I get no option to apply the setting. Even if I change another setting that does let me "Apply", that option resets to "Desktop - Popup". I believe I read that this was by design?

I didn't try the copy & paste method of authorization - it seemed too involved, and I know that the lay-user will have all kinds of trouble figuring out how to do it. I recommend going with the internal method. I only had an issue with it once, where the "Success" page got stuck on me, and I had to kill the process using Task Manager, but it did still authorize.

Finally, here's an updated translation - I missed a line.

Besides that, it's all looking good. Keep up the great work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
The timers are independent, but since it can be set from the people update tab and it affects the facebook tab too I've included it (hence in advanced only). Updates only seem to occur when tab selected (although the 2 hour one may do so in background (unsure on that). Sometimes the time is not reported back, unfortunately this is a problem with the htc dll used, so can't do much with it.

Yeah I might be able to fix it, didn't find the right combination to get it to stay selected (I changed the way it worked slightly, so it's not quite as it was originally designed). It's just the selection itself though, if pressed that is the item used.

Yep, two reasons, 1-the tab uses a lot of reg entries so trying to avoid having too many unnecessary ones (auth should only need to be done once) 2-by not saving settings it can default to the most likely options which will work.

Yep, it looks like we can keep the "copy&paste" method as a fall-back option for those *difficult* people [not pointing any fingers here....;)]. Unfortunately, the WebBrowse control involved is very buggy, so making the best of a bad lot. Fortunately once authorised it won't be needed to be done again (hence why I'm also requesting the feed permission too - so shouldn't need to re-authorise for the next release).

Cheers, I hope we are nearly there. Will add the "selection" issue to the list for beta3.

Edit: Looked again at the selection issue, can't quite work out what to set to get selection to stay activated on the sense sdk. Will see if I can find where to set it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Sorry for the not done cab file. To many work and my travel for one week to austria. But for the next beta i will make a cab file first before i install any file, promised ...

@meltwater:

i will change the read marked graphic. I have found it on my copy from a clean hard reset. But after change this little icon to gray for gtx and copy it to the windows folder, it is allways blue, grrr. You have any idea which file it is for the fb tab?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wez89:
Had a problem with getting authorisation using 'Desktop - Popup'

Went and tried the copy and paste method in which i didnt encounter any problems, will have to try the 'touch' way, looking at reviews it seems it works fine.

only problem, may not be your fault but a fault with 'update and events'

scrolling is jittery, found the 'Facebook' icon on pictures dissappears with in the Fb tab when scrolling, (when the status is out of view it seems the tab has to load the fb icon every time you scroll) is there any way to cache this icon so it remains on all pictures or try remove it completly??
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
unfortunately not much can be done, just how that bit works. There is a thread which details which file to change to a transparent icon instead, but may effect all instances of the contact photo & I like to know which are linked.

Touch method does work best (when fb accepts it) probably since the size is not too big & fonts aren't huge.

@mike2nl

Not sure which file (will need to browse via mode9 editor), should be the same as before though.

Away for a few days so will get back to coding then. No luck with the selection issue for file/folder so might have to live with it, hopefully its acceptable.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Ok, and take the time. I will search again too.

For me is the solution now absolutly ok. The way of working is clear and i think we need then a short description for this all.

Have you done a test with Mobile - Touch setting? On my side this is working as the best.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Hi guys,

Any thoughts on authorisation settings, should I hide the selection of the authorisation when not in advanced mode or keep as is (with selection available but only limited options when not in advanced mode). Can't quite decide myself, no selection makes it easier for novice users, but the external auth & copy is not so confusing if you can see it without the extra options....(plus it's already to go)

Will set Default to touch and internal auth.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mike2nl:
Good question meltwater. I will think about it in the sun and then my brain is totaly in the war *lol. I'll answer this tomorrow
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
No probs. I've found a solution for the highlighting the items on the folder/file browse, but I don't think it's worth delaying the tab sorting it out (not as quick as I hoped).

Ok, I've decided, will go for a release tonight:

Will release BetaC (Translator's Edition), can be the final beta which we can release for translations. Initially this will again be beta testers only, then will pm people who are interested in doing translations (or already provided them). When we have translations, we can do a proper release (manual install) and then hopefully will get a cab for automated install.

I'll also draw up a user manual which explains the options.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] madindehead:
Going to test now meltwater :) Will update as I go ^^

Update: All seems to be fine again :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
Thanks madinehead.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wez89:
Only just been able to log on with working many hours, will test the new beta, about to flash so will test on a fresh rom..will report back later with results.

Again thanks meltwater for a new version (:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] meltwater:
No problems.

Anyone fancy writing out instructions on how to manually install the tab, will keep the package as is (perhaps removing ApiLang.xml, 5470CE36_manila_en-us_v1.5DraftE.txt and 35452D58_manila_en-gb_v1.5.txt from the root). I can include a copy of moonar's cab if that is preferred method. Anyway, you guys will know better than me the easiest way you've found to get the tab up and running.

Hopefully will do the manual tonight for the settings etc.