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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] bigmase521:
Google Voice in TAP on KoR1.0 b2

Hey Hermit.. I just flashed KoR b2 (based on CM6 RC2) and all of my alerts are working fine EXCEPT for my Google Voice Alert. It keeps flashing green instead of the blue that I have it set to, and will not let up no matter what I try; delete & re-set, re-install TAP, etc. All other alerts work fine for me as they always have, and succession still works great (manual patch of CM6 RC2).. But GV alert is hell bent on staying green! Any thoughts? I just sent u a debug e-mail. Thanks!

Edit: Just after I sent, a Google Talk message came thru and the ball blinks white instead of the assigned orange :-/ I sent another debug (sorry for the multiple :-P ). My email alert works fine (red), but I guess I haven't gotten any others yet besides those 3 to test..
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
I've replied to your email, its a known issue that you can solved now or wait for the new version coming out today.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] bewA:
I see CM has added successions and trackball alert colours natively now :S
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
Yes, nightly..but just for a few apps..love it, great progress :)

-> but it´s not a replacement for TA Pro :cool:

TA Pro still completes the Rom!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Anyone got a link?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
http://mirror.kanged.net/cm/nightly/passion/cm_passion-08042010-045254.zip
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] eug89:
I'm trying the new nightly since this morning and I tested the new trackball notifications options. It works with every app that launches notifications, once an app launches a notification you''l find it in the list... The succession doesn't work really good I think it still needs to be fixed
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
Success. work great!

disable in Advanced: Pulses the LED.... (both of them)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Thats a bit nasty ;)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NguyenHuu:
This is not true, I have several apps with notifications and they don't show up. Only handcent shows up.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
I've read the code and it does what it says on the tin. Time to wind down and find a new project.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] fitsnugly:
I'm still using your app because of the UI and things I haven't been able to set in CM (Missed Call, etc)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] eug89:
Yes I've disabled those two but it's still not working the right way, sometimes work and sometimes it flashes the same color twice. It also seems that it doens't finish to pulse properly
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] bewA:
really?! :(

Perhaps you could help look at the FM Radio app porting? :D
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] djmcnz:
Or centralised notification management, not just the trackball. With a rules-based engine. In concept this app would capture and take control of the notification thereby allowing cancellation, deferring, repeating, colours, tones, time periods, yada, yada. Now that would be sweet!

Perhaps a bit of a leap from TA Pro but an evolutionary one more than revolutionary in my mind.

And it could be made available for every handset then... :)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
TAP v1.2.2 on market

Includes captured notification interface plus several bug fixes.

Changelog
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
Thanx for "Updated: App now fixes incorrect permission on License file"..had that twice after that case again..:)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jocaferlo:
Does this work on CM6 Nightlies or only for RC2?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] bewA:
as said in previous posts. nightlies won't be supported because the framework changes too much.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] the orange bandit:
Is there an explanation of these patches anywhere? I'm running MoDaCo r21 and notice I can have Framework v7, TA+ in Succession v7, and Stock (inc TA) v6, but there's no explanation of what these do/don't do.

Using Pro, btw.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Stock returns the rom to Stock (how it was initially flashed)

Framework v7 is the Trackball Alert Framework

TA+ succession is the above with succession

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Been reading the code for CM6 nightly and its going to get increasingly difficult to keep supporting CM6 going forward. Which is a sad thing. :(

Its no longer a matter of adding my patches to the framework and services, its a matter of removing their mods which break TA. It could be a decision where I have to remove their trackball color code, rendering the settings in CyanogenMod Settings app useless.

Expect some rocky times.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Christopher3712:
I see. Well, it was a great run while it lasted.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
Got no strange behavior till now with last nightly...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
The setting in CyanogenMod Settings Trackball Notifications Colors -> Advanced are clear as mud in CM6-nightly.

What is the difference between "Succesion" tick box and "Pulse the LED color in order"?

I had one alert and it was going between 4 colors?

Love the way they have virtually copied TA even with the "Test Alert" ;)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] fitsnugly:
I'll still rock your app as long as you support CM roms... also their successions is ****ing weird. so unless they fix it I hope you keep yours going too :)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] :
Just noticed the color bug as well. Looks like they're pulling the entire color base instead of just the current notification base.

Succession tickbox enables the succession service, and then you choose either random or in order (odd thing is that you can turn both on).
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jocaferlo:
It seems this:
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] eug89:
I think the pulse randomly and pulse in order doesn't take care of the app's notification color and just flashes the led passing through all the colors randomly or following an ipothetical order. Apart from this two options I find a bit useless I have to be honest, I'm happy of seeing this trackball options in cyanogenmod cause I'm nearly always using a nightly build but I think it doesn't reach TA's quality.

@lilHermit It'll be great if you contribute with CyanogenMod and improve all the trackball notification related things and maybe make Trackball Alert as an alternative Interface to the one provided with cyanogenmod settings, if it's technically possible.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] :
My assumptions are wrong according to kmobs in the nightly thread.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Lex82:
Could you also explain how the "capture notifications" work? I have the option checked, but where can I go to pull the info from the missed notification to add it manually in TAP?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] bigmase521:
Got your e-mail and today's update seems to have solved all of my alert issues. Thanks!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] SubyWill:
my gmail is set to red, and it keeps blinking green! :confused:

*edit* gtalk is doing this too! what's going on?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
You sig says CyanogenMod 5.0.5.3 ..update :) your Rom.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] the orange bandit:
Thanks.

On MoDaCo r21 with the latest version of Trackball Alert Pro, I was able to patch the Framework v7 just fine, with no issues. When I patched the TA+ succession patch afterwards, I rebooted and my notification bar's text was in black. I had previously applied this theme (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7171300). My notification bar is still black, but I can't read my clock. :-\
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] pzumk:
/10chars..
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] SubyWill:
i know, i'm way behind lol. i just got a new computer, so i'm just waiting for the stable release of CM6:)

do i need to update my rom for TBP to work properly?:(
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Yes once you've turned it on, when a notification is received you will see it in Manage->Category->Add New...->Captured Notification.

There you can changed the filter between show all, and show condensed.

All will show you each notification with the exact app and id (including the time/date), show combined will just show you the apps.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Check the about box what version of framework does it list?

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] fitsnugly:
This feature alone > CM's new TB stuff
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] SubyWill:
it says v1
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Its a very old framework, latest is v7. Support for v1 framework will be lost in this version. why not upgrade to cm5.0.8 which will allow you to use framework v7.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] :
CM had the auto capture and then hermit added his. =D
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
I think you will find v1.2.1 had the capture option in settings ;) I just added the front end for it in the latest. I'm not that good that I can code something like that in a day.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] :
Ah okay mybad, I haven't been using tap too much since I've been nightlying lately.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
No problem ;) Its not actually my idea, thanks should go out to crimsondr post here I just implemented it.

So CM6 are copying us ;)

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
CM6 Nightly 08042010-202159

Ok call me mad but I just added the latest nightly to the patch system, including in succession. (one that works) ;)

It strips out all the rubbish :) (Joke) CM Trackball Code, this is not out of spite more for simpler debugging. Don't want TA framework changing the color and it being done again by CM6.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
Hallelujaaaaa :):):)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] MontAlbert:
i think ther eis still aplace for TAP for sure- not all roms will have the CM mods- plus from what i read, and have been unable to test correctly, the CM mod only affects th ose apps that already flash the trackball- I have been able to use TAP with apps that use the notification system but don't actually flash the trackball at all.

Someone please correct me if i am wrong about the CM mod stuff but this is the difference.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
You are correct MontAlbert, it only adds apps that flash the led Notification (in the case of N1 trackball) Also I believe the list will become unmanageable.

Also it only allows 1 notification per app, so you can't do different color for tweet or DM (assuming the app differentiates them)

I better be quiet. There are spies amongst us. :)

I'm going to be doing some experimentation, in a new framework which could allow me to open source it allowing for many more ROM chefs to include it.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NguyenHuu:
so if we patch via the app, it will also automatically include succession? cool!

this is what is making me think about buying trackball alert pro. can you add calendar to this list?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] :
lilhermit, have you thought about moving on to lockscreens for notification purposes? That could open up a bigger user base for you.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Yes calendar is already in the database or you can added via the new captured notifications system.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
Good to hear, you continue!!:cool:
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NguyenHuu:
i just purhcased the pro version, not just for calendar, but for your style of notification capture, much cool! plus great that you added this latest nightly to it.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Can you elaborate, because on the lockscreen you can see the notification bar.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] J.L.C.:
I am using Pro v1.2.2 with the latest Kang-o-Rama RC2 (Beta2) ROM manually patched (with succession) and have noticed that TA Pro is not saving/remembering my settings with reboots.

I get everything set (i.e.; add GTalk, MSN Talk, change GMail colour, etc) - if I reboot, the added notifications (GTalk, MSN Talk) are gone, and everything else is back to defaults.

Anyone else seeing this?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] MontAlbert:
that would be great- this way cyanogen could also include it...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NguyenHuu:
how do i get successio not work? you siad it works properly now with your patch. i can get all my colors properly but no succession.do i need to enable succession from CM settings? or was it automatically as part of hte patch? Thank yoU!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
You need to use the semi-automatic option in patch and choose TA + in succession

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
I've just tested exactly what you described and after reboot all is ok.

I find it strange because it gets stored in the database as soon as you change it.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
I don't think it will ever get included into CM, with this new code my patch system needs to remove shed loads of stuff. To continue CM support I'm going to have to use the patch system. I was think for other rom chefs, they are always asking me to give the code patches so they can include.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lpasq:
oh yes please master :D;):D
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NguyenHuu:
great to know, will do it now.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] J.L.C.:
Working now :)

Would making changes without a network connection make any difference?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lpasq:
fyi...my sig links to a basic aosp froyo compiled rom with source built framework and services jars if you want to pick it apart. the only thing modded is android.policy.jar with crimsondr's trackball-wake-unlock.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Absolutely not, very strange. Keep an eye on it and post if you experience it again.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
lilHermit,

correct me if I am wrong please...

If you patch TA Pro now in the nightlies, this disables the default CM trackball (auto-add-color) feature?

Or do they coexist?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NguyenHuu:
just wondering, was the nightly patch you posted just a one time thing, or will you be staying up to date with new nightlys, most likely not huh? hehe, just asking.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
No they don't co-exist, would be too much of a headache to. Think i left in the auto-adding (although the code is very hacky) but the code that processes the alert is gone.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Very much a one-off, takes too much time to patch and compile and the upload all the files to the patch server.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NguyenHuu:
got it, thanks for the info! in that case, i hope rori~ continues updating his patches for us nightly users to enjoy TA+succession. =p
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] pzumk:
What does "trackball succession" do exactly? I don't understand it
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] the orange bandit:
By default, You only get the trackball flashing the color of the first or last (I don't remember) notification - thus, if I get an email and then a tweet, I'll only see the color of one - basically not notifying me of the other.

Trackball succession eliminates that by scrolling through the various color notifications in order you received them. Thus, in the above example, my trackball would alternatively flash red and then blue - letting me know that I had missed both a gmail and a tweet.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] aureliusmaximus:
Please correct me if I'm wrong but the PRO version trackball succession? If so: Sweet!!! Just the final reason I needed to purchase the PRO version!

Edit: or is it only available in CM6? (I'm using Geo411m's rom and Trackball Alert works well on it)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] pzumk:
which one? I flashed the 08052010 nightly (today = latest) but it can't be patched :(
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
cm_passion-08042010-202159

Semi patch...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] pzumk:
:(

I took 08052010 because lilHermits post was "today"
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] mortal300:
Hey Hermit,

I patched TA + Succession today on my RC1

Sometimes when I get a Google talk message the light keeps flashing even tho I have cleared the notification.

I went back to stock. Clicked Menu > Cleared previous patches. And then went back to Succession yet its still happening.

What else can I do?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
This is a problem with the succession code and/or TA framework in combination. I haven't had a chance really to look at it. It seems to effect apps that cancel notification in the background, ie you read the gmail message from the PC. Although it seems quite random.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Breece:
Hey,

quick and hopefully non stupid question:

I am still on CM 5.0.6 and since the latest K-9 Mail update Trackball Alert Pro doesnt seem to work anyomore.. The trackball only flashes in the colour which is picked by K-9...

Or do i have to update to 5.0.8 or newer?

Thanks in advance :)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
I updated mine too lastnight and can confirm it still works. Can you turn on framework debug and send me a "debug info email"?

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] RogerPodacter:
man i didnt read and upgraded to the latest CM nightly. i didnt realize treackball was in settings, so i manually forced the patch in trackball alert, and all hell broke lose on my phone. i thought i bricked it, cause not only would it not boot up, but all my nand backups suddenly would not restore. i tried for hours and hours with no working phone. finally i had to flash a new ROM and start over from scratch.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] MontAlbert:
As has been stated adnauseum, TAP does not support nightlies. If you force the patch you will break all kinds of stuff in the framework of the cm6 nightly.

Sent from my Cyanogenised Froyoed Nexus One biatch
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] joeyweaver:
Is there any point in keeping Trackball Alert Pro now that Cyanogen Mod has trackball notifications? Can TAP do anything Cyanogen can't do?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NguyenHuu:
yeah, it can manually add apps and it can also add apps that do not use LED/trackball notifications and then allow those apps to have trackball colors.

the cyanogen settings does not let you add your own apps to it manually, it will only add apps once you get a notification and it only add apps that already have led/trackball notifications. for example, the calendar app has notifications, but not LED/trackball notifications. Cyanogen settings will not capture this app, but TA will.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Wow, now firstly that's a very antagonistic question. You do realise that there are many many ROMs other than CM6, and I'm working hard to support all the ROM devs that message me everyday for support. (ROM devs, i'm days away from Open sourcing the code)

Secondly as NguyenHuu very eloquently defined Trackball Alert Pro offers many advantages over CM6's implementation (copy) ;)

Whilst I maintain these features would not be CM6 if not for Trackball Alert I acknowledge the fact they feel the need to replicate. ;)

I appreciate the purchasers of Trackball Alert Pro and will continue to maintain the app in the face of my imitators, yes I will lose a large revenue stream due to CM6. However android is about choice and if you chose CM6 implementation over TA then so be it.

I have said before that it will get increasingly more difficult to support CM6 but I will strive for continued support, although this may mean stripping their conflicting functionality.

</rant>

(don't know where to start <rant> tag )

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] joeyweaver:
Sorry, lilHermit, I didn't mean any offense. I love your app, and am a supporter via purchasing Pro, and have gotten a lot of use out of it. I was just curious how it compared to CM6. Thanks for leading the way in trackball alerts!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Breece:
Just sent you the debug info mail! Thanks again!!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] MontAlbert:
i prefer TAP over CM. Hopefully you can continue to support CM roms in the future. CM rom alerts dont work for all apps. plus there is no ability to set custom colours either
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] fitsnugly:
hermit - ever think about adding custom sound options for the alerts as well? for notifications that don't do sounds, or unable to customize...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] crimsondr:
How about custom vibrations?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
It is possible with the framework however I have always considered it outside the remit of a Trackball manipulation app.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] fitsnugly:
Total Notification Domination App? LOL ;)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NguyenHuu:
maybe it is time to rebrand trackball alert pro to just "TAP Satisfactions" and have it encompass all notifications lol not just trackball coloring then you can expand your target market hehe, maybe can even use with other phones too that do not have trackball coloring.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] the orange bandit:
So.....Tweetdeck is out for Android - will it be added to the notification options?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Assuming you are running the latest framework and latest app, you can add it yourself.

Turn on FrameworkCapture in settings, wait for a notificaion, the added it via Add new... -> Captured Notification.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] :
lilhermit, I know you keep db with notification ids and all that.

As far as I know it's a one way street (you -> user), have you thought about implemening and (optional) (user -> you) for ids that are manually added?

It'd essentially be a self populating database that would allow new users to have access to obscure applications, and it wouldn't rely on you to manually add each notification id to the database.

Obviusly you'd still have to pick and choose what to add, but you'd have a bigger pool of samples to cut down names of apps.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Yes its on my list, as soon as this new framework is done. Which can be open sourced allowing any rom dev to support TA.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] imfloflo:
Tweetdeck already blink in yellow.

BTW notice some lag when receive an sms.

Handcent sms popup allow me to reply directly on home screen but if the notification is unread my keybpard lag.

I must clean the notification, to reply without any lag on keyboard.

Dunno if i'm clear or not :)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
I very much doubt that is related to Trackball Alert, it might be the succession mod. Do you have that installed?

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] imfloflo:
I have the succession mod yes.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Does it do this all the time? If so can you uninstall the succession_mod and see if that fixes it.

Note: To uninstall the succession mod via the patch system you need to patch stock first.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] CAbN:
Kang-o-rama 1.0 B2 support

Maybe Trackball Alert Free version is working on Kang 1.0 B2. But TA Pro isn't, it definitely needs patching... I was thinking of patching it with CM6 RC2 Patch.

Would that work?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] djmcnz:
I use Pro myself... it is absolutely, definitely, positively working... :) Thousands using it and you're the first to report a problem...

I'm not sure that this will work but can you use manual patch, CM6 RC2 and downgrade to stock then update your framework again?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
What framework version does it say in the about->details screen?

Is B2 compiled against a latest repo sync or one close to the RC2 release date?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] nopenope:
wth is an ugly orange for me... I'm on Leo's new Rom
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] lilHermit:
Leo ROM support is coming soon.

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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Breece:
Just a quick info:

I am now on the newest CM6 Nightly 08132010-032931 and Trackball Pro does not work. Tried manual patching but it crashed the system.

I dont expect a new version for each nightly though ;)

Breece
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] rori~:
Uuh, you missed a lot :-)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] NguyenHuu:
Cm settings just added support for calendar trackball notifications haha, one of the ones i was missing and was using TA for.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] ogdobber:
why don't you talk about when lilhermit's dog was run over by a car and killed as well?