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[Hero CDMA Android Development] swab29:
Force Close on everything I try to install

I was on 2.08 for a while and then moved onto Fresh for a few weeks. I could not stand how laggy it was and wanted to come back now that 2.09 is out. But once I got it loaded, I used astro to install apps again and every app would FC as soon as I opened them.

The apps already there were fine.

So this is what I did:

-On fresh backed up all apps.

-Rebooted, wiped all data. My ext has always been a bother and it wont mount or wipe it. As far as I know I have never used apps2sd, not super concerned to.

-Flashed 2.09

-It cycled through the boot

-Pulled battery and pulled sd card, and it booted fine.

-Put in Sd card and began installing apps from the sd via Astro

-FC on all

-tried rebooting, but it would not load fully unless I took out the sd card again

-since rom was loaded, I backup up sd card and formated on my mac... fat was my only option.

-put sd in phone and let the phone format it like it wanted

-uninstalled apps, like Voice, and then installed from market... still FC

-Rebooted again had to pull our sd, and uninstalled and reinstalled, no go still.

-Cleared data again, reflashed rom, same problems

-Then I cleared data and tried to nandroid my 2.08 backup. For some reason the HTC sense would fc as it would try loading so I could do nothing on that rom.

- Restored to Fresh and lots of apps were gone. I tried to reinstall them and only installed 36 of 50 that I had because installing from the market says now "installation error insufficient storage available" but when I look at SD & phone storage says I have 41 MB on phone space.

So my goal is to get rid of Fresh and get 2.09 on. What are your thoughts?

I realize the answer is somewhere, so link to it if you want, but searching though 6k posts is a little too much. ;)

Thanks!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] DominoDoug:
Dump fresh. Wipe everything. Flash kernel. Load apps manually.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] mjpuczko:
well, after trying the AOSP rom, had to come back to damage.

after installing from nandroid back to damage, i removed htctwitter, the livewallpapers.apk and one or two more i never use. installed the 568 OC flash. see what happens!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jasonyana:
My two cents

Wiped and installed 2.09.1. The first time I booted it up, a couple htc widgets were missing, on reboot everything was fine.

I cannot "get more htc widgets", like others have said, downloads them, cannot install them. not a huge deal.

I have found it to be pretty much the same experience as 2.8x which i had running perfectly, and overclocked.

It doesn't feel much slower and it feels more stable so far than 2.8 did. No missed incoming call issues, no lagging answering of calls, no audio loss issue.

I'm slightly surprised how well it is working, after hearing everyone's beefs, and quite pleased.

Thanks TrevE and Damage

-j
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
Once again all the issues come from trying to keep the apps from a whole diff rom. That is not wise bro. Just let those apps go and redownload them again dudes. Or you will continue to have all types of issues, those of you coming from another Rom please wipe your ext system. All that clearing sense data and all that bs you don't have to do any of that if you just flash it correctly.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] swab29:
So just to double check, even after I uninstalled and just tried to install from the market they were FCing too. Also Like I said I cannot format EXT it gives me an error, but If I format the sd card on a Mac and then let it format on the phone, it was still causing the FC issues.

I will try and install only from the market and see how that works though.Is the consensus that these app backup programs are actually not that good? Are there any that are worth it?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] screwonbudnik20:
No OC here seems to be to much trouble.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cirehawk:
Oops!! I posted before that when I restored my nandroid backup I had problems with missing programs/links. I only did the nandroid backup but not the nandroid+EXT, so that would explain it. My bad. I have my 2.08.1 setup rebuilt again from scratch now. Maybe I'll do the proper nandroid+EXT backup and try 2.09.1 again.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cirehawk:
Exactly. If there is one thing I've learned since I've been rooted these last few months, it's that the Hero seems to act very differently for different people.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vidsid:
Are you saying that when you boot to RA, you can't partition the SD card? If you don't have an ext partition, that might be the cause of the problems.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
dude there only apps, i never back up my ext system cause it only causes problems when you go to another rom, i just nandroid and thats its, i suggest you start over, wipe, wipe dalvik, then wipe ext, then after you flash the zip, repartition sd card, ext2 to ext 3 to get your apps2sd going and i bet you get no more FC"S. and you should have an ext 3 partition with this rom. and if your recovery is having issues, update it to the latest and greatest darch or toast godmode recovery If your running the old damage and using the updater to apply that could be it. i never use any updater apps on anybodys roms because i learned my lesson, its going on two years and one thing i learned is i rather just download the zip put it on my sd card, make sure i wipe even if the dev says you can apply over it, i still never apply over my current rom, thats just me though. I rarely have issues doing things on the safe side. another thing you dont have to nandroid every single time you flash a rom, i think i only have two nandroids and ive flashed everyrom in the book i just keep one and delete the old ones. flashing nan droids over and over cause diff junk to happen to. remember key word is wipe, go wipe crazy. it takes 5 min to set up your phone after you wipe, it takes endless hours to go on xda and wait for someone to respond to you on why you have all these force closes.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] DominoDoug:
Is there any work around for the wifi

tether crash?

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] ItsDon:
When I'm done using WiFi Tether I reboot my phone rather telling Wifi Tether to stop. Not the most elegant solution but no need to do a battery pull because of a freeze either.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mslisaj:
Help upgrading from 2.08.1 to 2.09.1

I would like to upgrade to DC's final Hero update. I have a 100% perfectly functioning Hero now and don't want to create problems for myself. Can I just use the DC Updater and let it do its thing automatically? I don't want to wipe and start over. Some say just do the Updater and I won't loose a thing and others say I have to wipe. Still I read about folks getting stuck ons boot loop and the problems go on and on. What is the consensus of the folks on this forum? What's the easiest, safest and assured way to upgrade a perfect phone?

Thanks for your help......

Lisa
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
this was my exact post from earlier, not directed toward anybody in particular. If you choose to use the updater, then go ahead but if you encounter any errors it could be multiple things. Sometimes the updater could half download it, sometimes it workes perfect and sometimes the updater takes you back into recovery and it just gives you and error. i mean its safe to use it, but i never do.....give it a shot and let everyone know your exp.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6766264&postcount=6089
[Hero CDMA Android Development] aisseleacim03:
Back to square 1

So I lost contact sync, exchange sync and other things.

I decided to go back to my backup 2.08.1

I guess the phone works well again but the problem with syncing contacts to Facebook persists. So it seems it is not an issue with the phone only, maybe facebook has done something on their end too???

I actually saw how one of my contacts after the backup had the information there and as the sync process run it lost it and never came back...

It is random like some friends I have complete access to updates and pictues. Others dont.

So I don't know anymore...:confused:

Will play with this settings again for a while and if not then I will flash again 2.09.1 knowing that my 2.08.1 version also messed up my contact sync. So I will be more relaxed about it..:cool:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mindctrl:
If you find out please let me know.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bk718:
like you, my hero is running perfectly on DC 2.08.1.. i get over 24 hours on a full charger, everything runs real fast, no lag, everything is sync the way its supposed too, etc....

well i still had that curiosity itch.. so i nandroid and wiped everything and installed this update.. well it seemed to be one thing after another, so i decided to start all over again... i even completely erased the downloaded ROM and redownloaded it again.. wiped again.. and installed... still was going thru the same issues.. so i applied my nandroid... and my restore has some issues that i've never experienced from a restore before...

well i ended up goin back to installin DC 2.08.1 from fresh and using mybackup pro to bring everything back to the way it was...

i said all that to say this.. if ur really happy with how your phone is right now and u say its running perfect, then i would suggest leaving it as it is.. because whether you update by flashing over your current ROM or wiping, there is still a chance that things could not go the way you hope...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mslisaj:
So basically there is no real good way to update safely. I understand exactly what you ate telling me and you recommend wipe and manual install. But guys have problems with that too. So I guess the bottom line is - my phone works perfectly because I was lucky !nd just be satisfied I'm not on 1.5 any more and I have a 2.1 that works.......

I appreciate the help and advice.........
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
i mean i wouldnt say its not safe, i just never have issues because i have my own way of doing things, i just wipe regardless and then flash the update zip me personally but i believe they guys who are having all these issues are flashing nandroids and not wiping ext and all that other bull who knows what their doing lol, if your going to upgrade to the latest, you can flash over, if you have issues just wipe and flash the zip again should be fine, make sure you wipe dalvik as well. and its safe me because i been doing for a while, but dont be scared to flash zips you can alwys get back into recovery, the only thing you should be scared about flashing is radios, i always sweat when i flash radios, one bad radio could brick your phone in a min.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] xxxk15:
i flashed 2.09.1 and my apps wont install off of the market or from a restore using titanium backup..does anyone know how to fix this??
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
this rom has apps2sd, you prolly need to go into recovery and wipe ext system, repartition sdcard, the convert ext2 to ext3 then restart phone.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] kashb91:
everytime i connect my phone into my computer, the sd card gets mounted even though i have it set to charge only. anybody know how to change this?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vrajpal:
does anyone expirience a huge lag when answering and hanging up on a call?

If so anyone have a solution?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] xxxk15:
yeah i did this right before i flashed the rom but it is still giving me trouble
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
agreed.......i understand you work. Im not an android genius nor would i call myself a dev, i know basic commands and troubleshooting, i expect someone with 900 post to know more than me. im just trying to share knowledge. and I can have the title troll all day, its the internet buddy i could care less. plus those trolls from back in the day with the super tall colorful hair were bad ass i grew up with those. Im sure im not always right, thats why we correct each other. i stand corrected if im wrong, teach me things mister 900 post. good day sir :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] smw6180:
Honestly I can't. I need my phone to work. So I don't have time to delve into why the lag issues were occurring. Nor do I have time to figure out why the thing was rebooting. It wasn't easy to reproduce at work and I needed the phone as I said. If I had time to fix all the things that are broken in various ROMs I've used I would be, as you said, pushing out my own roms. But I don't. So I am not. So I make bug reports, which I've done and you've complained about. *shrug* So be it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fifedogg:
I just checked and realised I have 100% wake time on my Hero with the 2.09.01 Rom installed. I've tried eveything I can find to get it to sleep but I cant find anything that will work...

Edit: This is soo Weird!! I've been messing with my phone all day trying to get it to stop staying awake. I tried everything I could find and or think of. I rebooted my phone 10 plus times and nothing. But of crourse when I finally post on here my phone is now allowing it to sleep...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] smw6180:
Run spare parts. (I think it's included, if not get it from the market). It will tell you what's keeping your phone awake.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mslisaj:
Well, I appreciate your thoughts. As I mentioned I think I will do to Nandroids and move one to my pc and then just try the dc updater and see what it looks like. I can always break a boot loop by pulling and the usemy Nandroid to get back where I am now. My problem is I read all the forums and everybody is having one problem or another. I'm just looking for a simple update where "all settings and data will remain unchanged ".

Just have to get brave and try it..........

Thanks for your help.

Lisa
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
have you tried going into settings, then manage apps, then clear market data?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] deeonoextrea:
"My experience(s) thus far"

Ok, first let me say stop beefing! you're wasting time, energy, & space.PM each other if need to air out some beef.

That said. I wiped dalvik and factory reset (left my ext3 untouched)then flashed 2.09. Had no problems with that (i came from 2.08.1). I flashed the updated supereuser (e-unsigned). Didn't have any trouble until I started flashing mods,clear espresso etc. I think helix negates previous mods that have anything to do with the rosie,so I'll remove it and try again, because my no-background-clock worked fine. Didn't have trouble with sync, but when I did I went manage apps & cleared data in sense, contact storage, and Facebook then it let it resync. Sometimes it takes a while to resync. I'm going to play with over fresh's overclock kernel & report my findings. Side note - I did a Nandroid after I flashed the original Rom and signed into all my emails because that part is a pain to me. I'll post more as I creep along.

We're all in the same Android family,so let's stop giving the Apple fan boyz ammunition.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Bigjim1488:
Re: [ROM] DamageControl v2.09.01

This Rom is sweet. I won't eat into all the above mentioned drama. Only issue so far is I tried to overclock and it just made the phone lag like crazy I had to wipe and start again. I ran it at 710 then down to 528 and still no luck. I guess I will stay away from overclocking

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] livinlifes2short:
to be honest I did not go through all 600 pages of this post. Are the two download links on the first page the same? Thanks
[Hero CDMA Android Development] aisseleacim03:
yes they are the same
[Hero CDMA Android Development] aisseleacim03:
Here I go again.

Tried to install the ROM though the updater to no avail, go stuck in the boot loop.

So pulled battery, wiped everything...and I mean everything, and now it is installing.

Just rebooted so we will see how it goes.

For those of us that the issues are related to contact sync and such, I have experienced the same issues when I nandroided back to 2.08.1. I dont know if they were there before the update ( I dont think so) but they were definetly there after Nandroid.

Contacts not syncing, facebook not updating (will do the motion of updating but stay with the updates of 7 days ago) and then when pressing contacts to get info from them, the app will foreclose.

Question...even if you wipe clean to do your nandroid restore, does the phone keep any of the "problems adquiered during the flashing of the new ROM" It should right? But I have read in some post that people like me that revert back...find the same issues or similar....

Hmmm
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 2LoWw7:
Anyone have the white taskbar running on the 2.08 rom? I found some but they dont seem to want to take?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] aisseleacim03:
is up and running. Same issues not syncing my contacts as noted before.

Last thing I am going to try (but not today) is to wipe everything and flash the 2.08.1 and audio fix from scratch and see if that brings up the same issues.

If they come up again then I will be convinced that either facebook and htc sense dont work well together...or this ROM will have that flaw regardless of what we try.

Peace out good night.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] aisseleacim03:
One last thought...

It seems that we have two kinds of reports...

one that say everything is going great and this is how I installed my ROM,

the others that say it doesnt work well and hence we revert to or old ROM...

BUt very few that are actually trying to find the reasons why things are not working well for some of us. (Besides telling us what they did to install the ROM or what they took out that makes it work well for them)

Is nobody out there trying to see what might be going on wrong with the ROM and trying to fix it?

I know that it is Damegeless and TrevE creation but, is it against the rules for other developers to jump in and try to work out the issues? if the main creators have, in all of their right to do so, moved on to the Evo and dont even have a Hero to test the ROM themselves?

I really would like this ROM to work as flawlessly as its predecessor...

As I said just a thought...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] PTown599:
Those issues have been there dude, and nothing should carry over from a nandroid. Use the search to find the answer, I did.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] DominoDoug:
Has anyone really been far as

decided to use even go want to do

look more like?

On a side note I do have to toggle airplane mode each time I boot up. Maybe this will alleviate some issues for others.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] xxxk15:
LOVE this rom its fast without overclocking.had lots of problems with apps not loading widgets not loading but other than that the rom is so smooth. LOVE IT, THANKS

One question, is anyone having the problem with nandroid backups, when being restored they dont have the market??Would a nandroid+ext backup fix this??
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Spikemonkey:
OK, I'm a positive outlook kind of guy; so I am going to throw this flag up and see who salutes it. I think the reason TrevE and/or damageless haven't been saying much or putting out the odex'ed version of the Rom is this: They are taking a long, hard look at the Rom based upon all the info/problems people have been having and are making sure it is totally right before they do anything further. On this; they are stuck in a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" scenario if they give any info to that effect, because then the "Well, when will it be done!?" groups will come out to play. Just like all of them would have been perfectly fine with 2.08.1 for the rest of their Hero using lives until damageless and TrevE said they were working on the next thing. At the same time, the silence brings out the "Why aren't they telling us what's going on!?" people. Now this is just my hopeful opinion. If I'm right, if I'm wrong, who knows?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ItsDon:
I think they are just playing with their Evo's
[Hero CDMA Android Development] aisseleacim03:
I dont know if you are referring to my post.

Are you talking about the syncing issues or the Nandroid backup issues?

If you are, do you mind sharing your finds?

I know that in apps and themes forum there is some post about people app foreclosing and some dudes using apps form the market to solve it like facebook sync.

Is this what you refer too?

Thanks
[Hero CDMA Android Development] yhf971:
It's under themes and apps... ugh I can't post, 3rd post in 3 years...

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] shepkc:
I banned the HTC lock screen and now my World Clock doesnt work. Are these 2 tied together? I see World Clock in my DC Banned folder, but I can't move it back to the app folder. I use this as my alarm clock, and didn't know it was banned until my alarm didn't go off this morning. :confused:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
Tried flashing on my Tuttnauer 1730m autoclave; I keep getting burns on my fingers when loading Facebook. Everything else works.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jfortier16:
If you ban the htclockscreen the alarm will go off until you pull the battery. I am a fan of "better alarm clock" as a workaround. Haven't

had any trouble.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] jfortier16:
also, if you have data sync issues try opening the browser. It asked for my Sprint number

and gave me data after I obliged.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] vidsid:
I couldn't have put it better myself!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] vidsid:
The Story So Far

It seems that the two basic themes here are:

It works great if you wipe everything (especially if you repartition your SD card), flash from recovery, reboot to get data turned on, go into apps settings and 'clear defaults' on htc sense and don't do a lot of modding with lockscreens, etc.

If you're going to add the OC kernal, start with the 710 or 5xx because some phones loop when using the fastest speed preset.

It has problems when you:

Update using DCupdater

Don't wipe all, including ext3

If you have an ext4 partition left over from another rom

You don't follow the directions to clear defaults on htc sense

You try to add back certain mods like transparent lockscreen

Anyone disagree? Anyone have anything to add?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] aisseleacim03:
Titanium not linking to its backup folder

I have searched the forum and the theme and apps forum and have not been able to come up with an answer for this...

I wiped and flashed the new ROM (second time doing it, first time did not have this problem).

I don't have Apps2sd or anything like that. I unchecked this boxes in dcconfig

The information for my backups is in my sd card.

But Titanium Backup will not find it. I installed the busybox as suggested but nothing. It only recognizes the 3 apps that I have installed again but nothing else.

Is there a way to fix this without having to re flash or re install manually all of my apps?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] crunchybutternut:
You might have a filter applied. In Titanium Backup so it does not show everything.

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[Hero CDMA Android Development] aisseleacim03:
As simple as that... I do feel like the Noob I am...:D

Thank you so much