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[XPERIA X10 General] cashaw:
My technique (it's been working fine for a couple of days) is to reboot the phone after charging, I have removed Juicedefender and all apps which attempt to monitor the battery.

I personally think WiFi is to blame, I have GPS andlocation all activated but as soon as WiFi has been enabled and then switched off, the bttery starts to leak away...
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
Because whenever you start WiFi, several other apps, including Moxier mail stars up on its own. They will keep running in the background even after you switch off your WiFi.
[XPERIA X10 General] sathurnn:
there's no battery tutor app on the market? Are you sure it exists?
[XPERIA X10 General] giddorah:
Are you in a country where you can't pay for apps?
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Hi - Thanks for this suggestion - I will also try that and see what comes of it!
[XPERIA X10 General] sathurnn:
i'm in italy, i searched on the market directly from my x10

Could you post a link to this app?

thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
It's not called BatteryTutor, it's called PowerTutor. It's a free app.
[XPERIA X10 General] sidneylopsides:
I've had a day without wifi, and got a much better performance than the day before. I work in a phone shop and have been using my phone as a demo for customers, as well as for my own normal use, it's been on with sync all day and I've got 30% left, normally I'd have had it on charge by early afternoon.

I'll see about this media storage thing though.
[XPERIA X10 General] Willey1986:
S*** killing Media Storge doesn't work. Sorry for my previous posting. After charging my x10 to 100% i lost 12% in the next 1,5 hours. So i removed the SD Card completely from my x10 (not just unmount) and now everything is fine. Battery status is an 88% the last hour now.

I don't know if it's an hardware ore software issue but without an SD-Card my x10 has no battery issues. Perhaps it's the SD-Card controller or the SD-Card itself. Perhaps it's a software bug I DON'T KNOW :D I hope SE does...
[XPERIA X10 General] saltorio:
WiFi definitely seems to chew battery on the X10 (though I found the same on my old iPAQ as well). If you don't need it, I recommend turning it off (I have a 6GB data bucket, so even at home I tend to leave it off unless doing major downloading or I need network access for file sharing).

Switching to 2G ("GSM only") is supposed to help as well if you don't need a fast data connection (background updates), but I can't verify as it seems Rogers has locked that option out (at least until I de-brand :P).

Willey1986: I haven't tried removing my SD card, but I have noticed over the past few days my battery use has been getting significantly better. I do have a 16 GB card though (provided as part of Rogers package), rather than the default 8 GB card SE provides. So that could make a difference.
[XPERIA X10 General] Willey1986:
Ah thx for your comment. Going to buy me a new 16 GB card next week hope I'm having success with it. It's cool that my x10 works fine without an SD card but actually I wanted to replace my iPod touch as musicplayer so I NEED a SD card :D
[XPERIA X10 General] TriC_101:
Well after a week of use my Battery last so much longer then it did when I 1st got the phone... I work goto work at 6AM and by 4PM would be down to 30% now after a week with the same use on the phone every day I get home at 4PM and have 65% life left.. big improvement.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
HI - I don't have any issues with Wifi draining the battery now that I have set the wifi sleep policy (kinda hidden in the wifi settings screen - press the menu button and select advanced settings) to "When screen turns off".. my phones used 5% in the last 5 hours...

I've also set the "network mode" to GSM only (crappy 3G signal at my house).. my phones been off charge since 1030 this morning (11.5 hours).. and I've still got 65% left..
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Hi - Do you have any non standard apps that might be accessing the SD card? I don't seem to be having any issue with this.
[XPERIA X10 General] Willey1986:
Nope just flashed the phone again no change in battery usage. Removing the SD-Card was the only solution. As i said unmounting doesn't help.
[XPERIA X10 General] Vin87:
A small update, Juicedefender seems to help a bit , but it is not much. If you go to Juicedefender and check out 'help' it shows that it lengthen the battery life with a factor 2.48. However that's complete bull. The phone is now active for 14 hours. Most of the time it was just standby (wifi off, gps off, BT off, 3G on with Juicedefender). I also did one hour of browing and received 2 phonecalls. On Average I lost 1% an hour which seems to be just a hair better then without Juicedefender.
[XPERIA X10 General] anjel-2k:
It's called Power Tutor, I think. I found it on the market place, also what i found when using it on my x10 is that the lcd takes a hell of a lot of power, about 5 times as much of the CPU. What makes it worse is that when you enable automatic brightness the power usage jumps to twice the LCD usage, to over 900MW by itself. I dont know how accurate this app is but, if it is, I think it will be advisable not to use the automatic brightness control and then just streamline your wifi and cpu usage. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
does anyone know is there an app like this for android?
[XPERIA X10 General] Vin87:
Yes there are apps like that, search 2g or 3g in the market. However these apps take you to your settings>wireless blabla>mobile networks menu where you have to switch to wcdma / gsm by yourself.
[XPERIA X10 General] SE-Naz:
I have been using juice defender... But today I have opted in not using it and also only used task killer once and not since to see how it goes...

Juice Defender runs in the background, so it need to process every 15mins...

However if you are updating manually or every 1/2 hours then this way Juice Defender is doing more as it keeps switchin on and off

Today without Juice Defender - 8 hours standby battery is on 66% which I think is pretty good, I have used timescape a bit and google talk and couple of short calls... Not too bad me thinks...
[XPERIA X10 General] Belazor:
Im on my best battery streak thus far, 20 hours since I unplugged and Im at 60% charge.

I have turned off all automatic updating (including mail) and JuiceDefender is disabled.

3G mode is on WCDMA Only, WiFi is set to shut off when screen goes off, and I use WifiStatic to set a static IP to my home wifi to easily reconnect.

I've listened to music over BT for about 2 hours and done about 2 hours of surfing, sent 1 text.

Not exactly heavy usage but it's my average usage these days, and before I'd be down to about 20-30% by now.
[XPERIA X10 General] kkarnaout:
i dont knw guys if my phone is diffrenet then all u guys.

i unpuged my phone today at 100% at 6:30 am, i have ATK (Advanced Task Killer) runing to remove all my tasks when display turns of. only ATK media and time scape runing when phone screen is off...wifi on and of all day(by all day i mean all day on and off lots of use), took 4 pictuers, sent few sms, chat on fring, downloadind games played a bit, updated the phone to ...16(they said so so i just did:P)and all this till now 10:36 pm battary at 68%....

you can say coz i updated my phone the battary charged but i give it an 5% charge when i turnd on the battary was at the same level at 81% so i guess my battary lasts good :D yay me :P

and i agree with all people moxi does kill battary life...just keep ATK on it helps a lot it helped me :D

best rgerds :D:D MY XPERIA X10i ROCKS :P:P
[XPERIA X10 General] darrab2002:
I feel that my X10 consumes a lot of power during the standby even when I turn off the applications, wifi , 3g.... etc

yesterday at 2:00 am the battery was almost 70% i waked up at 8:30 am to find out it's 25% ... so it consumes 45% during almost 6 hours and 30 minutes , that means battery life time is 14-15 hours (standby)
[XPERIA X10 General] kkarnaout:
Did you try ATK ? download it from the markit it has auto kill programs when screen is off...

as for what i said b4 this post from 10:36 PM battary at 68% to 8:30 AM my battary became 63% with my playing with it for a while now from 8:30 AM till 11:26 AM my battary at 57% opend wifi a bit made few calls...:D my battary is good thank GOD :D
[XPERIA X10 General] VMaxxor:
My battery seems to drain faster when I'm not using the phone. Gaming for an hour took 6% away, keeping it in my pocket for 15 minutes cost me 9%.
[XPERIA X10 General] muude:
My battery drained 31% between 1 and 7 am today - I WAS SLEEPING?! It cant just drain my battery when Im sleeping..
[XPERIA X10 General] TakenName:
My little experiment;

I charged my X10, Hero and Legend all to 100%.

I put them on flightmode, and killed all programs.

I never used the phones during this time.

Status after 10 hours;

Hero: 92%

Legend: 94%

X10: 72%
[XPERIA X10 General] Trekster:
Something is definetly wrong, we need to setup something more advanced than the built-in "battery monitor" to see what's draining the battery. I don't know if it's possible without root?
[XPERIA X10 General] hampan:
It happened to me too, seemed to be some apps that were malfunctioning, in my case it was the "Layar Reality Browser" that sucked all my battery.

Try going back to stock to see if the problem persists.

Other reasons could be apps using background services i.e. mail/twitter/facebook/timescape updates that are happening with a too short interval.

I have no problems any more, in my case it was only badly written apps.
[XPERIA X10 General] TakenName:
Killed all services/backgrounds task. havent installed much on the X10 either, and not Layar (useless in norway so far )
[XPERIA X10 General] nihonjintaylor:
The first day i used it it went the whole day with me using it all the time. After installing various applications battery went down a whole lot faster...

I used http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/03/get-better-battery-life-on-your-nexus-one/ and http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/03/apps-review-juicedefender-ultimatejuice/

and battery life has improved a lot ^^;

But still could be a lot better (Also root is needed for the first app in the nexus one vid - hope we can get it soon :D.)
[XPERIA X10 General] Belazor:
I'm using JuiceDefender and switched from Advanced Task Killer to ProcessManager (thanks nihon for linking to that vid :D) - JD says it's improved my battery life by x1.67 and a full charge lasts about 12 hours (42% accuracy) when I hardly use the phone at all.

Waiting to hear back from the guy who was going to order new batteries, maybe we got some faulty ones in some units?
[XPERIA X10 General] Flexx2008:
do you guys use moxier sync? after removing my moxier sync account (do not forget to restart your device) battery drain went back to normal! there is definitely something wrong with it ...

I did some testing with my x10i (UMTS/WLAN active, device in standby mode) :

moxier sync activated (30 mins polling mode) : 7-8% battery/hour

moxier sync completely deactivated (no account) : 1-2% battery/hour

please give it a try and report back,

Bernd
[XPERIA X10 General] Trekster:
Are you connection to an Exchange 2003-2010 server? If so use "direct push" and it will have the same effect(almost!) as this will make the server push new mail/calendar information to the phone as opposed to the polling where the phone has to do a task and hence loose power unnecessary. Of course it isn't as economical as completely turning of Moxier but alot of us have Exchange accounts and I for one can't live without it...

There is an update for Moxier(2.5.x) but because the app is pre-installed i can't seem to update it...
[XPERIA X10 General] Flexx2008:
tested with z-push and exchange 2003. you are right, it's normal that a push/polling email service needs some more power, but the battery drain with moxier sync activated is a way too much ... there IS something wrong with it!

there are some other exchange connectivity solutions (e.g. touchdown), maybe they are better and don't drain the battery that bad ...
[XPERIA X10 General] TakenName:
Ive been using moxier sync as well.. Disabled it now, so gonna see if that helps anything. Curious: Those who have good batteries, does any of you use moxier?
[XPERIA X10 General] Flexx2008:
disabling moxier sync already fixed the battery drain problem for some people here!

warning: you have to completely remove your moxier sync account, setting it to manual mode won't change anything ... after deleting your account, reboot your device and you should be fine.
[XPERIA X10 General] Belazor:
I never setup Moxier sync in the first place, yet Moxier Mail likes to run either way. Does that have any effect, or is it only if it actually syncs?
[XPERIA X10 General] Flexx2008:
I assume that only the sync process (configured moxier account) causes the battery drain, but I'm not sure yet. do you have battery problems ? and with problems I mean that your battery is draining 7-9% per hour in STANDBY mode without touching your x10 ?
[XPERIA X10 General] Belazor:
Yeah that sounds about right, even with the battery conservation app it still drains pretty quickly. I get about 12-14 hours of life out of the battery with minimal usage.
[XPERIA X10 General] Trekster:
If Touchdown wasn't so expensive i'd give it a go..a quick google search for moxier reveals some users reporting issues with battery drain however that could be traced through the "Battery use" menu(where Moxier used as much as 20%) - where in my case the Moxier app/sync app doesn't even register!

I'll remove the sync account during the weekend where i don't solely depend on my Exchange mails on the phone(no meetings :D) to test out the theory.

Interesting that the Cell Standby and Phone Idle uses 41%...as if the phone never really goes to "sleep". I don't remember these two being that high on my Hero...also my Display accounts for only 3%!!
[XPERIA X10 General] Flexx2008:
that's exactly my thought, moxier seems to somehow prevent the phone to enter (deep) standby mode.

you can easily test it yourself :

charge your phone to 100%, activate moxier sync, go to bed --> next day about 36%

and then:

charge your phone to 100%, disable moxier, go to bed --> next day 94%

and that's not a theory, thats a fact ... at least for my x10 :-) it's normal that activated push/pull email service uses some battery, 10-15% for pull or even 30% for push overnight would be ok, but almost 70% ? no way ...
[XPERIA X10 General] telnet05:
How to remove Moxier????
[XPERIA X10 General] Flexx2008:
you don't need to remove the software, just make sure that you haven't configured an account (moxier sync app) and that no moxier processes (e.g. moxier mail) are running ...
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
Nothing new from that problem of yours, almost everyone is having the same problem. Read the whole thread.
[XPERIA X10 General] rvictorg:
Long time follower, first post...

I've noticed a gradually improvement over the past week like many others, however last night I had THE worst standby usage I've experienced to date. I had just bought the Advanced Task Manager (previously only used Task Manager, different dev Rhythm Software) thinking it would help my battery life even more because it seems to be a popular choice on these forums, however I was shocked this morning when my battery life went from 96% to 33% overnight. I've come to expect 15%-30% drop overnight, and had high expectations that Advanced Task Manager would markedly improve things with its advanced controls, clearly that was not the case and it hasn't been auto-killing all these apps that seem to have a life of their own very well for me either. Here's my usage since I unplugged 9h 50m ago:

Cell standby 42%

Phone idle 35%

Android System 10%

Display 7%

Handcent 5%

Wi-Fi 2%

I leave 3G on most of the time, typical signal in my house is -90 to -105 on Rogers in Canada.

If any of you have any suggestions on settings etc. for Advanced Task Manager or any thoughts why my battery drained so rapidly overnight I'd really appreciate it or I'll be refunding my $1 this evening.
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
Did you use 3G data and/or WiFi and/or GPS the previous day/before you sleep? I've experienced this anomally of battery draining after using any of those wireless features even AFTER switching them off. At first I didn't believe others' reports, until it was happening to my phone. Restarting the phone 'fixes' this power 'leakage' issue. SE needs to fix this... restarting the phone after every 3G/WiFi/GPS usage is something we shouldn't have to do.
[XPERIA X10 General] kkarnaout:
hey guys ill post this for the last time as u read from 11:27 am where my battary was at 57% now at 9:30 battary @30%. as u see im sending from my mobile with wifi on played and downloaded had 2calles... guys wish u all find a solution.

Sent from my X10i using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[XPERIA X10 General] rvictorg:
Hey, yes I use 3G and WiFi daily, and intentially use GPS about every other day for Google Maps. I say intentially because I assume some of my other apps are using GPS as they run in the background etc. Like I said though, last night was the first time my battery has drained like that, I've only restarted my phone a couple times and never to resolve any power leakage issues. I too have read some reports about WiFi causing leakage but never GPS or 3G. Also the guy from Germany and his SD card leaking juice so I'm starting to think my 16GB card (about half full atm) might be causing problems. Btw I'm using the old firmware R1FA014 on my Rogers branded X10a.

Any idea if the new firmware would resolve this problem? Any suggestions for Advanced Task Manager? I'm concerned I may have auto-killed something important. What about Startup Auditor is it worth installing??
[XPERIA X10 General] Jayne:
Hi, I used to use Advanced Tasker Manager but found it did not autokil so I uninstalled it and now use taskpanel lite which I find very good. It does autokill when phone locks or goes to sleep and also you can kill tasks manually too. I did download Startup auditor as well but dont use it as Taskpanel Lite works the first time the phone goes to sleep mode so dont really think it is needed.... it did not always stop programs starting up all the time anyway. Hope this helps.
[XPERIA X10 General] rvictorg:
I'll give Taskpanel Lite a try thanks. Btw you wouldn't happen to know where I could find the full version, just TaskPanel?? I've been searching the net for a download link and can't find it anywhere, nor on the market either.
[XPERIA X10 General] Acronyc84:
Hi everyone, just an update on my battery life. It's significantly improved in the three weeks since I've had the phone, and now it lasts over 20 hours with reasonably heavy usage. I only turn on wifi and location services like GPS when I need them, but the battery has really been great this entire past week. Thanks for all of the tips here and I hope everyone can get more out of their batteries.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bigmann57:
Battery stops charging

Hi everyone I have read most of the posts about the battery draining too fast which in some cases it is true wit hmy phone as well, depending on what I'm using my phone for. However my problem is that I will put my phone on charge when I go to bed and once it reaches a full charge it stops charging all together. When I wake up my battery is already 5-7% drained. Wit hall my previous phones when the battery was full the charge would stay full until I unplugged and used it. Is there a setting I'm missing or is this a normal thing for all X10 users?
[XPERIA X10 General] OwLOwLOwL:
Hi....

That charging stops when 100% is reached is the preferred way of charging Li-Polymer batteries... to extend the battery life and prevent over-charging, there is an intelligence in the phone charge cirquitry stopping the charging..... If the charge goes below, I think, 85-90% the phone will resume charging again, charging it to 100% and then stop charging again....

This is a great feature, to avoid damage and to extend your battery life....

Regards // OwL
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Hi. If you don't need to keep the phone active during the night I'd recommend setting the phone into

Flight mode and reboot before you go to bed. Means when you wake up the phone won't have lost so much juice.

also established that weather apps will prevent your phone from sleeping too. I had the weather and toggle widget

Which looks like the htc one. This was killing my battery. I've removed that but kept location services switched on and when the phone is out of use I get virtually no drain.

One to watch out for.

Sent from my X10i using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[XPERIA X10 General] deezy7:
But what if someone needs to contact you in an emergency in the middle of the night? That's not right....I hate the power consumption on this phone. They should have just used a bigger battery. The same battery in the X1 is amazing. Always a day and a half worth of juice in that phone. This is just ridiculous. I'm really thinking that the only proper solution will come with the 2.1/2.2 update. You shouldn't have to be shutting down all this stuff on your phone to keep it going. I bought this phone to USE all the features, not to turn them all off!

Very disappointed about this. I hate having to charge it twice a day.
[XPERIA X10 General] hampan:
I'm not using task killers or juice defender or anything, but I've got better battery time.

Try this, after charging -Reboot your phone.

My battery life doubled and many people are experiencing similar result. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
Whats the fuzz?

I went out and got my X10 yesterday (yey me!) Popped in my sim on the buss ride home, fiddeling about up untill bed time doing my best to drain the battery completely (as i understand is recomended) put it on charge over the night from aprox 11pm and took it of the charger at 7am 100% battery.. i've used the phone normally during the day.. tried out some google maps for some time. browsing a bit. downloading a few apps including a weather app with auto update.. everything else set on auto aswell (not using moxier... that i know of) made some calls and so on.. normal usage. i got home 5:30pm and my battery was on 60%.. after one charge! and if this is supposed to get better even?! i'm MORE then happy with the battery on this dev :D so either you guys/girls with pore battery times are srsly power surfing all day or your extremely unlucky and got some crappy batteris. i even used auto location and all that stuff turned on.. no intentional power saving attitude.

well.. i'm pleased as hell with my phone :)

Forgot t mention i've had bluetooth running all day.. and i have a very old sim card.. dont know if it matters, but its over 10 years old
[XPERIA X10 General] Jayne:
Rvictorg

I dont think there is another version I could only find Taskpanel Lite..... This version is on the Market and has all the features like Autokill on sleep and a widget that you can place on the homescreen to manually kill tasks as well.... let me know what you think of it. good luck!
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
If someone needs to contact me in an emergency during the night they'd call my landline anyway.. and I don't want night time emails pinging off the notifier.. so flight mode suits me..

I've got most features switched on now and after 14hours of fairly good usage I was down to c.40%.. so I'm quite happy with that.

I'm using Juice plotter to see what seems to be draining the juice...

Setting the wifi policy to "sleep when screen off" means that when my phone is not in use it drops by about 1% in 2 Hours.. which is fine.

I've got Startup Auditor Killing Moxier.

I've got WCMDA/ GSM preferred on.

Wifi gets switched off when I'm out of the house.

Using google sync - Auto syncing.

location data on..

GPS off mostly. (I wouldn't leave my lights on during the day.. so why leave GPS on when I don't need it!)

facebook refreshing hourly.

Using google mail.. (although having a few problems with my email not getting pushed as I expected.)

getting about 20 hours out of it..