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[Windows Mobile] ai6908:
Excellent thread Que and AF.
[Windows Mobile] Nixeus:
Hello,

Great thread !

If I reversmod the Opera.exe and OperaL.exe to module, opera don't work ( Opera Mobile).

I have a problem too with googleMaps, it won't run if googlemaps.exe is converted to module.
[Windows Mobile] AndrewSh:
Guys, stop reversmodding executables. It's useless.

Convert to modules ONLY dll files.

BTW - total reversmodding without sharing RW sections of some dlls (to force them not to be loaded to slot 0) is also senseless....

I convert to modules about 60 dll files (mostly htc services and drivers) and share RW sections of about 30 dlls. It's for Leo.

For 6.1 I would offer just to share RW of the files (dlls) to free up slot 0.
[Desire General] crankshaft:
Hi Guys, pleased to say that I've finally jumped ship from Windows Mobile to Android after 7 years with verious WinMo devices. Hopefully I can give some contributions to the Android community.

Any, I'm after knowing of anyone that's placed an order the the Desire with Vodafone UK? Basically, they gone out of stock already! Order was placed yesterday and was told that the devices should be in that afternoon but a call from Voda later that day I was told no go until tomorrow now. Fine, but then today I've had another call saying that the delivery didn't turn up and they won't be getting any in until sometime next week now!

Vodafone have also locked all the threads on their forums regarding the lack of stock so it's not even possible to discus the issue with them!

Cheers
[Desire General] Brodel:
I spoke to someone at vodafone regarding me moving from O2 and he said they expect new handsets around the 20th of April.
[Desire General] JonesWTF:
I applied for my upgrade with them on the 14th. Everything went through OK and I received the 2nd email saying my order was successfully processed. Then, I get another email saying I have to wait 7-10 days for my phone as it's out of stock which was where the fun began.

I first thought, these things happen. But with with a bit of reading around the Vodafone forum, this had been happening to a lot of people for weeks prior to me upgrading.

Why the hell did the advertise on the site that I could get it next day, when obviously I couldn't. Now they're blaming everything on the volcano erupting. From what I can tell, this problem has been going on way before anything happend with a volcano stopping the deliveries.

3 have even posted a blog explaing what has happened and have apologised to their customers. I have sent email after email and received no replies, the phone staff are useless, and now the once excellent online team are just closing every thread that has the word "stock" somewhere.

They really have to get their act together.
[Desire General] tarmacsurfer:
I got my handset as an upgrade. Ordered on the 14th, received an email on the 15th stating it was out of stock and it would be 7-10 days. I contacted customer support to say I'd seen the handset in store and asked whether I could simply go in and pick one up.

Never got a reply, but my phone arrived the next day.

Upshot is, supply seems very patchy and Vodafone's stock control a tad lacksadaisical. Then again it's not surprising that it's selling well given the comparatively low tariff costs for the level of hardware, plus pretty much everywhere has given the phone a good - if not great - review, two minutes googling will convince even a non-geek that it's one of the phones to have.
[Desire General] crankshaft:
I'm getting pretty sick of vodafone. every post i start now gets deleted! had an online chat with one of thier sales people today who told me it was in stock! posted it on vf forum and guess what? deleted within about 20 minutes!
[Desire General] Brodel:
They had delays because of the ash cloud. New dates I've seen mentioned on other forums have been for the 26th or 27th.
[Desire General] crankshaft:
i'll believe that when i see it! And it's not really about the delay anyway, that i can understand, it's about the blatant lies and closing/deleting of threads that's really pissing people off. Everytime they close a thread they give a link to another thread which is locked, pointless. it's become very clear that some people have recieved their phone even though they've ordered after others that are still waiting then claim that it's first come first served.
[Desire General] Brodel:
I don't use their forum so can't really comment on that, but it does seem pretty frustrating. Anyway, according to someone on AVForums who spoke to someone from web retentions today, they might not be in stock until a week on monday now... :mad:
[Desire General] mmm_ok:
Yeah, I ordered mine on the website and then got the email saying it was backordered AFTER the purchase had completed.

This is a major design flaw in my opinion. If something is backordered, it should tell you BEFORE you confirm the order.

I tried to call the 0844 number (specified in the email) a couple of times to find out the status of the order and gave up both times after waiting 15 minutes on hold for each call.

I finally had a massive argument with someone in customer services, who incidentally was really snotty with me, before filing a complaint with a manager - cancelling my order in the process.

Then the next day I walked into Carphone warehouse and just bought the phone

Customer Service Rep: Nobody in the UK has stock of this phone... it's because of the volcano.

Me: Erm, my co worker got it in carphonewarehouse yesterday.

Customer Service Rep: Yeah, well i bet they're sold out now.

Bottom line, Vodafone service is appalling at the moment, I'd advise anyone consdering buysing a desire from them to stay well away.
[Desire General] Brodel:
Vodafone have had unprecedented demand with the offers they have been giving so I guess they are in a different position. I agree that it is annoying, but personally I can wait as I know that nowhere else can offer 600mins, unlimited texts, unlimited data and free phone for £22 a month.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
Well, I searched the forum and checked my phone, so pardon me if this has been discussed before.

I'm using the T-Mobile WM 6.5 Stock ROM, version 1.91.531.3 (74508) WWE. Does anyone know how to determine which version of Sense is installed? I'm thinking it may be 2.1 rather than 2.5.

I"m asking because I'm considering installing some of the themes, and I want to download the correct ones.

**UPDATE**

I have found references that say it is 2.1, but I'd still like to know how to find out. The Settings menu "About" only brings up an HTML file in IE, and does not mention any sense version information.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] MCbrian:
Have you looked at Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information? I'm on a custom rom, so I don't know how it looks on Stock, but it may list Manila version there.

But it is 2.1 -- for sure (on T-Mo USA).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sirphunkee:
I don't believe that the stock Tmo 6.5 ROM has anywhere that it flat out states "sense 2.x" (or if it does I can't find it anywhere).

However, in system settings you can just choose "about", and there it says that the build is 21881, which is a Sense 2.1 build.

EDIT: and since you're looking at installing some themes, etc, it actually helps to know which exact build you have, since even on 2.1 some of the themes and other visual elements actually work on some 2.1 builds but not others (I've run into this a few times since upgrading to 6.5 this past weekend). It's usually listed in the threads which builds are ok or aren't.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
There is no "Software Tab", only Hardware.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
Thanks for the information, it is 21881. I just noticed in the ROM thread that the ROM shipped in August of 2009 had a later version of WM than my "upgrade" OS dated 19 Dec 09. That is very strange. Also, that August version had a different type of Sense; evidently the settings tab actually showed the Sense version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sirphunkee:
If it's the T-mobile ROM you're talking about, the one "shipped" back in Aug was the originial WM 6.1 ROM that came on all T-mobile TP2's, before the 6.5 upgrade showed up. That 6.1 ROM didn't have sense on it at all actually, it had what was known as "TF3D 2.1"...which does cause a lot of confusion with sense 2.1. The version numbers assigned to the builds don't always increase over time the way you might suspect, so it could look like that previous version is a "later" build if you just look at the build numbers.

Oh, and yes, in that 6.1 ROM (which I was running up until this past weekend), the TF3D version was listed right on the "settings" tab....no idea why it's not there anymore.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] grymcent:
Been trying to figure out my Sense version as I have had problems with HDWall and Facebook tab and others.

This thread has some of the information I need and now tells me that I do not have Sense 2.1.

I have a Touch Pro 2 running: TF3D: CE OS 5.2.21854 (21854.5.0.80).

If sense 2.1 = 21881 what is 21854?

And how can I upgrade it? is it possible to upgrade without using a ROM?

Cheers for your help

G
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] stevedebi:
No, the "21854" is the Windows build number, that is separate from sense. However I discovered that the easiest way to tell 2.1 from w.5 is that 2.5 has shortcuts on the home tab; boxes with a "+" mark, that you can assign to shortcuts.

If you are running US Tmobile, there is an upgrade to WM 6.5 and Sense 2.1. I'm not sure about other carriers. Or you can flash a ROM...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sirphunkee:
According to the list of stock roms in the wiki, 21854 is a WM 6.5 build that was distributed by most every carrier in europe, so I would also presume that it already has sense 2.1. Is there Weather in your home clock? The last manila version prior to sense 2.1 was tf3d 2.1, which I don't think you have, and it's easy to spot due to it's lack of weather on the home tab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] grymcent:
I do not have weather on the Home Tab. it has a Tab on TF3D but the Home Tab just has the flip clock call history/calendar list.

So it sounds like I have a lower version of Sense? and the only way to change that is ROM upgrade right?

Cheers

G
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sirphunkee:
yes, that's TouchFlo3D 2.1, the last thing that Manila was before it became sense, and there's nowhere near the options for it that exist with Sense 2.1 etc.

Generally the only way to upgrade your sense version is to flash a rom that has it on there. There is some experimentation going on with a cab version of Sense 2.5, you can read about it starting with post #9 in THIS thread...but they're trying to upgrade from Sense 2.1 to 2.5, I have no idea if it'll work at all going from TF3D to Sense 2.5.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Meiyo:
Ok so I had the [ stuck in the outbox problem ] and then with the resending where it sends the message twice [ and of course is a waste of my credit] and I've had the LAG and now this weird thing , where I open the inbox , I see some sent messages , drafts and stuff. And I open the outbox I see some messages from my inbox and from some place else.

This has got to be FIXED !!!

:mad:​
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Meiyo:
and now I have posted this in the wrong Forum , I wanted to submit it to General.

If someone can move it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alesscam:
the next time to write with characters from 270

.................thus not to read well :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Meiyo:
What do you mean by 270 ?
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] zvoner5:
Does anyone have any idea where I could find a theme like the one on the HTC HD mini? I would like it to be simple black and also black manilla would be nice. I found the new colored manilla here on the forum but that one also has changed icons which I don't want. So, black manilla+black theme anyone? :D

(I've seen more devices with these themes running but I'm reffering to the HD mini in particular because I'm running winmo 6.5.5 on my mega)
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] Frank C:
I can provide you with the HD mini theme wallpaper....than you are already half way......:)

note: save as PNG file....and than copy to your phone. Install with M2DC.

I do not have the black Manila......but if you browse through this thread you may find what you want......http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=575723

Have fun....
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] joshoon:
You can download the theme made by me here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=662186
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] mirost1:
First, it says its WVGA, Touch2 is QVGA and it doesnt look like the original theme from MINI? :confused:
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] Uppy:
I like it but thats WVGA, mega is QVGA, i dont think it'll work.

-edit-mirost1 beat me to it

Here is something i knocked together using frank caarls bg image and editing the hh_tab images

(Note that the weather icons are dudd, im using the mortscript to display an icon there rather than "No Weather Data")
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] zvoner5:
Thanks, I was looking for something like this a while ago. I achieved it by using separate elements, like the hd mini wallpaper set throughout manilla with m2dc, livven simplegloss themes & customizations and a black manilla theme called "w@p 2.6 look m2d skin". All of these already available here on xda.

Now, does anyone know how I could get rid of the soft start button? Because mega already has a hardware key for that and it just takes space on the screen :D
[Desire General] juanjitos:
Hello, someone can tell me how to do a soft reset to htc desire, there is some key combination or there is some software to do it?.

Thanks
[Desire General] RaptorRVL:
keep the power button pressed for a longer time. a menu will be shown. select power down (phone will now shut down), press power button again. et voila! you have 'rebooted' your phone!
[Desire General] juanjitos:
thank you very much but I do not work or do not
[Desire General] O and O:
Any apps to do this :D?
[Desire General] O and O:
Are there any?
[Desire General] FloatingFatMan:
Uuhh.. What?
[Desire General] O and O:
So is it at all possible to have an app that reboots the handset essentially?
[Desire General] RetroFlux:
There was an app on the market called quick boot I think, never used it myself but you could try that, although it may need root and the desire will probably be too new to work with it, so maybe one to keep an eye on.
[Desire General] Dunbad:
Sorry for such a noob question, but the reply above, is that not simply turning the device.off and on again as opposed to rebooting, or carrying out a soft reset? Coming from an iPhone and wm before that, i was led to believe there was a difference. Removing the battery with the device on was a soft reset, rebooting the iPhone was also slightly different from turning it off and on again. ?

I would also like to know if we could do a soft reset without having to take back cover off and remove battery?

Thanks
[Desire General] D-fens:
I have to take back cover of my Desire to reset it. Turning off doesn't work in my case. Simply - last time I was waiting 15 minutes and it still displaying 'shutting down'. I can't shutdown my phone.
[Desire General] gimsig:
Hi, I guess you want to reset HTC Desire without taking it a part:).

Check this video on youtube on how to do it.

youtube.com/watch?v=L58SK9dhrVc

Add www, i couldn't post the link as i'm new user.

Hope tis helps.
[Desire General] D-fens:
I think you didn't catch what we are talkin about. Soft reset doesn't meen we would like to erase all data and revert back to factory settings.

My phone is not able to shut down even after one hour after pressing: power botton for a moment -> power off. Any clues?
[Desire General] awf:
@ d-fens

Strange indeed soft reset works here fine but used it only a few times :cool:

Maybe a hard reset forces to reinstall the o/s correct and solves you're problem because it should work via the power button...

Do you get the pop-up menu with the different choices?
[Desire General] cgrec92:
what the hell are you people talking about?

a soft reset is a way to restart the phone using an option in the phone, perhaps an app

so when there's the option to POWER OFF the phone, there is the option to RESTART the phone
[Desire General] mojavaid36:
that's right.

Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Desire General] D-fens:
I got the popup menu when I press power button for a while but when I press first option to shut down the phone - it does not shut down. Shuting down message displays for ages and nothing happens.

Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Desire General] gimsig:
Sorry, I think I got it wrong. D-fens - what you have done is fine, taking out the battery, judging by htc website

htc.com/europe/howto.aspx?id=721&type=1&p_id=312

but I don't know why wouldn't it shut down with power button, it works fine with my.
[Desire General] Dunbad:
I think I know what your trying to get at, the problem is in your phone, unmount your SD card, I suspect its faulty. This will I suspect work. Try it and tell us how you get on. I'm assuming switching the phone off and on again is the same as rebooting or soft reset on Android.
[Desire General] OnlinePredator:
Lol mega fail answers. I think currently there is no way to soft reset your phone without going the long way of turning it off and turning it on again. Quite annoying I know, but you should not have to soft reset your phone much at all, if you do then there is a prob with software etc. I have only soft reset my phone maybe 2-3 times in the few weeks I have had it for.

But again I believe the question is:

Is there an app or some special way to soft reset the desire, without removing battery or without pressing and holding power button and selecting turn off, as both these methods simply turn the device off and are not actually resetting the device...
[Desire General] eViL D::
Use quickboot or root boot. I personally use root boot. Works fine.
[Desire General] awf:
That's what they call a soft reset via the power button LOL

You get the option to power off the phone ( which is actually a two way step for a soft reset )

He actually states that this option doen't work for him, because the phone just times out ( or in other words it just freeze) after making the choice in the pop menu...

Despite all work arounds offered here it should work on every Desire

by default :) (within a few seconds)

If it doesn't then a reinstall of the software could be to rule out a software issue in the trouble shooting process.

But before that I should un install every non default software package,

and try the soft reset function to see if the phone powers down in a few seconds.

my reply where ment for d-fens his questions!

Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Desire General] cgrec92:
oh

my

god

can you please stop posting until you learn what a soft reset is, you're talking about a hard reset

as for the guy who's phone doesn't TURN OFF there are 3 other threads discussing THAT problem

now BACK to this problem

A "soft" reset is by far the most common type of reset any PDA user will come across, and is often useful in solving minor problems and strange behaviour. When you perform a soft reset of a PDA, you are essentially causing the device to stop everything it is running, and restart - much like rebooting a PC.

so as i said when there is the option to TURN OFF the phone (where it doesn't magically turn back on again) there is the option to RESTART the phone (where after it turns off, it automatically turns back on again).

we are not talking about re-installing the OS!

read this 3 times before posting
[Desire General] awf:
funny how some people doesn't read carefully...

My replies where ment to d-fens his question (hence I even used quotes lol) which I admit know it can confuse some, because it differs from the OP his question.

Lol I'm aware of what it is hence learned that back in early 1990...

But it looks like you don't own this particular phone...

For your info by default the only two options (soft reset) currently on this device are:

_ via the phones power button hold this til we get the popup menu with the phone options like power off airplane mode mobile network off etc...

_ Or remove the battery

Both doesn't give the function of a reboot automatically...

At this point in time by default this are the options you have with the Desire...

In case of trouble shooting it can be software related or hardware

my reply was to user d_fens his post is about the first option doesn't work !

this can be related to for example still process running in the background conflicting... or a bad SD card for example....

What you can do after a backup is a hardreset (called factory reset)

Which will restore all software and parameters to it's factory defaults...

(always wise to make a backup first, or in case of automatic backup just copy the SD card content to a safe place)

the device offers two options here:

_ via the phone software

_ or via the phone buttons in this case volume and power button...

That's what I'm talking about related to d-fens his question that the first option freezes his phone...

As for the OP I described now the two options available with a non rooted Desire...

Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Desire General] cgrec92:
i'm sorry why do you think i do not have this phone? my signature says so and i have had it since it first came out.

ok, my bad, thanks for describing in essay form what everyone knows

if YOU had read carefully, the OP is wondering if there is an app or something which restarts the phone meaning you do NOT have to take the battery out or press and hold the power button twice.

seeing that you do not have any suggestions, please stay out of this.
[Desire General] awf:
In the xda app you don't see a user sign...

I was under the impression because other wise you never questioned my answer about the soft reset method of this device...

If you read carefully again in quotes I replied to a different question of user d-fens

lol you don't need to press the power button twice :)

Why do you think they invented quotes lol

It's the nature of forum comunications...

Anyway since you are here for the sake of the argument have fun...

But I will reply if I can share knowledge to another user not what you seams to think is a correct answer. Hence you missed the quotes and question from d

-fens...

Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Desire General] cgrec92:
i wish i knew what you were talking about, if this app you are referring to is the xda app, it is because i have disabled the signature, now that i see how this is relevant..

thanks for sharing your "knowledge", i would never have known that taking a battery out would turn off a phone..

if anyone can suggest an app (which you clearly can't) that will restart the phone then please please do because i have looked everywhere.

and whatever your quotation is, 'DFens' is NOT THE OP so you are answering the WRONG question! now can we PLEASE get back to the REAL/ORIGINAL issue!!!

just in case you took the battery out of your mouse to restart it the original post is:

"""Hello, someone can tell me how to do a soft reset to htc desire, there is some key combination or there is some software to do it?."""

NOTE HE DOES NOT ASK HOW TO TAKE A BATTERY OUT OF A PHONE.