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[General Questions and Answers] gotobigo:
I have two POP3 accounts on my TP2. One of them works without problems but the other one gives me the following error message: "Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and that your e-mail account settings are correct. Then, try to download messages again."

I searched the web and forums incl. this one and there are quite some people with the same problem but unfortunately all the mentioned solutions didn't work for me. So far I tried:

1. Soft and Hard Reset

2. Deleting and reentering the account

3. All different combinations of username (just the name or full email address)

4. Tried the ip address of the POP3 server in case its a DNS problem

5. Made sure the correct port is used (110)

4. Tried the ForceOffSSL registry key that had worked for some

I tried the account in question with the q3u email-client using the same settings and it worked without a problem from the very same device... so it must be a POutlook problem.

Please, can someone of the geniuses here help me out? This is driving me nuts. I need that account working.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] sweetnovember:
please help me about where could i get original windows mobile 5.0 rom virsion 1.1.2 for T. mobile MDA PRO .. please members write in which site could i get it ....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] teddybear3k:
Language????
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tinti93:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Upgrades ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Simon_WM:
Guys, this dunt work... 02 UK no longer support 02 Exec
[Legend General] qprmanadam:
Hi,

I apologise if this is a silly question, I'm new to Android (received my Legend a couple of days ago). I had been under the impression from reading a bit about Android 2.1 on other devices that the search by voice and voice to text parts were integral to the OS. However I saw the following on the HTC website;

(from the HTC support website)

It's not a huge issue for me but I was surprised it wasn't on the phone. Is there something obvious I am missing or is there a way (preferably without rooting) that I can add this functionality; can someone recommend an application to try?

Thanks for your help,

adam
[Legend General] hymne:
here you go

androidworld .nl /category /howtos
[Legend General] qprmanadam:
Thanks, I managed to get it working by installing this;

code. google. com /p /voicesearch
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Here's my comparison between WP7, iPhone OS, Android and WM6.5, webOS and Maemo!

It's been about time that somebody did it.

It's a work in progress, I will add and update things.

This chart is meant to be free from any opinion, it shall only contain the pure facts.

There's only one simple rule: No hacking! No unsupported, unallowed, illegal methods or any methods that are a breach of licence agreements.

_
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ganondolf:
ndrive and co-pilot are available to iphone too
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Thanks, will be added.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
They have stated that copy and paste is currently being implemented now in WP7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Spike15:
Source ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
It will be added to the chart when it becomes available. ;)

(sorry, but I don't believe it will become available soon after launch - I will, however, add it, if the PROMISE to make it available)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ganondolf:
microsoft sent a statement saying that they listened to what people have said and are looking how to put a great copy and paste in wp7.

They did not say if it will be available at launch (probably not).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
We will probably have to wait until closer to launch to see how far they've gotten on that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Of course. Any facts or at least promised features will be added, but I want to keep the chart free from speculation.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Shasarak:
Source? :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
I was posted on Engadget a while back go search for it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
This is my assessment:

Disclaimer: This coloured chart reflects my opinion, of course you can have your own. Please, don't try to discuss with me about my opinion, I don't want to do so. I will form my opinion based on trying things myself and research.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
Hmm there's something strange about that chart. One of those columns just doesn't look like the other three. Wonder if options were made to reflect that?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
When I made the chart, I tried to find as many categories as possible. I did not think about opinions, I just tried to collect facts.

The coulouring was done AFTER the original chart. Thus, the chart itself is in no way influenced by my opinion.

If you think categories are missing, please tell me! I want as many facts as possible, regardless of which OS they favor.

That said, I did do the colouring according to my opinion. I did not color one column after another, thus I also did not deliberately colour one of them with more green than others.

I think my methods are as balanced as they can possibly be.

If you have another opinion, feel free to colour the chart differently!

(there is no copyright :D)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Again: Feel free to colour the chart differently, to show your opinions!

Please don't flame each others' opinions! State your own opinions by colouring the chart, but fon't flame!

Also, if you think categories are missing, please tell me!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Anyone with knowledge want to add Symbian?

I hear Nokia plan to release a few great devices, but I don't know enough about Symbian, unfortunately.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
I think it all depends on your view of each item. I don't think most of them can be shown as pure green or red, except maybe on the items that either have it or they don't. For example you may say full multitasking on OS is green but what comes with that? More apps may bog the system down or make the battery not last as long. I know on my Touch Pro2 I always kill an app from the task manager when I close it because I don't want it to effect anything like that. So in someone else's eyes full multitasking may not be a good thing. And differences in opinion can go either way on most of those. So yes that is your opinion and I respect it but I'll stick to the chart without color for a less biased view of the OS's. :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] Spike15:
You know what, I really cannot believe that people on this forum are even having this discussion.

UNIX was a multi-user, multi-tasking operating system

RELEASED IN 1969

.

That's

40 YEARS AGO

.

So if you try and take the M$/Apple side on this argument, it's tantamount to admitting that technology should take a 40 year step backwards, and that you honestly believe that the development of timesharing/multi-tasking, which reinvented computing and made it accessible to every person, was

a bad thing

.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
@Kloc

Wasn't that disclaimer big enough? Didn't I say it's purely MY OPINION?!

What the f*** is so hard to understand about that?!

I want multitasking, that's why it's green.

I want customization, that's why it's green.

I hate iTunes, that's why it's red.

And so on. If you have a different opinion, you can make your own colours!

I encourage you to state your own opinion (for example taky my chart and change the colours), but mine is NOT up for discussion!

The coloured chart represents my own, very personal opinion! NOTHING ELSE.

That is why I do not post it in the first post of this thread. The chart in the first post is NOT coloured, because it is FREE FROM OPINIONS.

Everybody is able to take the NON-COLOURED chart and from his own opinion.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
Yes and Apple and MS's OS's are both multitasking and multithreaded OS's. Just beause they won't allow everyone to use it doesn't mean it can't. Non multitasking systems are something like old DOS. You go to print a document and you have to wait until the entire thing is printed before you can do something else. These systems are nothing like that. They are trying to innovate how multitasking is used in order to have effeicency on their devices.
[Windows Phone 7 General] WhyBe:
Instead of these endless feature comparisons, I would love to see someone compare their REAL WORLD experiences between these OS platforms. In other words, user-experience comparisons instead of feature-list comparisons. Because in the end, what ultimately matters is the user-experience regardless of whether you're a mainstream consumer or smartphone geek.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gogol:
In this specific thread or the whole XDA-dev forum?

Have you checked yourself that Android is really off-topic here (XDA-dev forum)?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I believe it's off-topic in the WP7 section of XDA-devs. There are Android-specific sections, there's General section and Off-topic section. The latter is about everything including the iPhone. This particular thread was created by Sethos II and it was he who added iPhone to the comparison list. Complaining that somebody comes here to actually be an iPhone advocate is somewhat weird.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
I haven't even heard WP7 mentioned in quite a few post. It's been Android vs iPhone so far lol.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Think a bit further and you'll realize that the only way you can know what your experience is like is trying it yourself.

Obviously knowing about someone else's experience it not worth much.

Features can at least give you a hint what your experience will be like, though you can never know before you try. Feature-list comparisons are the only thing that make sense. When you want to know more, you must try it yourself and not rely on someone else's experience, because experiences are totally personal things. Feature-lists can at least tell you whether something is worth trying.

But if you want to know about my experience: I'm glad I got rid of the HD2. I'm having a much better experience with the Desire.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Why, some people here complain there's too much iPhone - they wish it were just Android probably.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
That's why the title says WP7, iPhone, Android, WM6.5, webOS, Maemo.... because, right, this thread is for Android ONLY.

Seriously, give us a break. Everytime Android is mentioned somewhere you start whining like a little kid.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Why, I find chatting with fanboys entertaining. They don't last long though. You're the last one standing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DarkDvr:
A pretty good list.

Imo, Android beats the shiznit out of anything else overall.

Considering it's free for manufacturers and is already being put everywhere (phones, netbooks, slates...) I see more things being added to its list.

Saweet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Ironically, everyone you call a "fanboy" is apparently more intelligent than you are.

Even eaglesteve, who would probably not deny that he's an iPhone fan, has contributed MUCH more intelligent posts than you.

All you are contributing to this forum is whining like a little baby whenever Android gets mentioned somewhere. Has Android done something to your Mom or what?!

Go on talking to "fanboys", cause they can teach you a lot, little kid.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
webOS and Maemo don't look bad either. But they need more "fragmentation" in order to be successful.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
I used to agree and in some way I hate to say this but in the meanwhile I think without Android the site would be dead in like two years or less. WP7 at least doesn't provide what most here are looking for.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Spike15:
You clearly have no idea.

Notice how I didn't quantify that with "about what I'm saying", since you don't have an idea, in general, about anything.

It's not "evil corporations trying to conquer the world", it's a realization that corporations are entities which exist only to make money, and that they will attempt to make as much money as possible (through lock-in a la Apple, monopolization a la Microsoft, or "consumer feel-good" a la Google) unless they are kept in check.

But the problem is that the modern consumer is not conscientious, does not inform himself, and does not have the willpower to avoid purchasing something he might otherwise want due to his beliefs, and therefore you have corporations going out-of-control.

Nice job associating "hippie" with me by the way -- it further invalidated your point. As anyone who knows me will tell you, "hippie" is the word which least describes me.

Here, straight from my Facebook:

"Political Views: Small Government Conservative, Capitalist"

You are too pro.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
+1

That kid has a lot to learn from the people he calls "fanboys", cause he has no idea about anything.

Calling someone else's reasonable decisions "childish bull****" really is childish bull****.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Fa7my:
OK.. here's the chart with some other minor improvements..
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
That's supposed to be one hell of a lot of proof in the world on reasonable people who have a clue I guess. :D

Not buying a phone because of a principle is not an example of reasonable behavior. It's the same low level as when a blonde buys something because it's pink. Especially when it's about a very minor thing such as Apple's lock-in, not about eating children for breakfast. So yes, it's bull****. If that lock-in prevents you from using the device properly then it's a valid reason. If, on the other hand, you can easily remove that barrier, that lock-in doesn't matter.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
BTW, for those who worry that jailbreaking could easily be stopped by Apple. You might wish to know that OS 4.0 jailbreak is already released, even before Apple has released the OS.

http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-news/706912-iphone-os-4-0-jailbreak-released.html

According to the above post, it does not give away knowledge of any new exploit. It just recycle the old ones. This tells us that Apple has been keeping known exploits unpatched year after year. Think about the reason. There are people who even suggest that the jailbreaking team are actually Apple employees working secretly! I don't know how much credence to lend to such rumours though.

The real general public jailbreak release will come later.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Spike15:
No "hippie" would ever purport to be a Small Government Conservative, or a Capitalist.

"[H]ippie" lean more to the left.

Uhh...?

I don't really know where to start responding to this...how about calling Apple's lock-in "minor".

Apple is a corporation that presumes to control their

paying

customers.

If I wanted to be controlled, I could go to work and get

paid

good money for it.

Then there's calling not buying a phone out of principle "[un]reasonable behavior".

Now, I know that our world is on a steep moral slippery slope, but when did standing by your principles and beliefs become "[un]reasonable behavior".

I don't believe in companies that don't give their customers the freedom of choice. I don't believe in companies that try and exclude 3rd parties from developing for their platforms for no good reason.

Therefore, I will never buy any Apple product.

That's not only "reasonable behavior", but it's how the free market is supposed to work -- companies that the consumers support prosper, and companies that the consumers don't die. The problem is that nowadays consumers have lost their conscientiousness, and just buy things that are eye-catching or "cool".

When are you going to realize that no one here gives a

****

about Apple?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sunset Rider:
The thread title confused me. Too much garble.

More like: Android vs. WM6.5. Those are the only usable phone OS'

WP7 = iPhone = ****.

WebOS = Linux = hippy ****.

Maemo = Nokia = **** on principle.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
Are you illiterate to the extend of not knowing what the title of this thread is? When are you going to realise that I had not bothered to respond to your rubbish posts? Enough said. This will be my last respond to any of your post.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
If someone is a fanboy that doesn't mean he doesn't know a lot about the object of his worship. So yes, there's a lot I learn from fanboys as regards positive aspects of products. They're not as instrumental in knowing the whole picture of course. And obviously your assessment of other people isn't something that's worth anything.

The thing is, the world isn't as black and white as you're painting it. Many modern cars have radios that aren't replaceable by third party ones. When the radios are good people don't complain. I have such a car, and it's a great car no matter whether they give me freedom or not. Now, if they did provide the choice I'd be happier but while in all other parameters it was the best option when I bought it I'm fine. And that's how market forces work. People will stop buying Apple products when they stop functioning well enough for them, so Apple will either let third parties improve them or improve the built-in functionality or lose the market. Now, tinkering and replacing everything may be part of desired functionality for some users, but of course Apple or Google or anyone are free to choose whether they want to cater to that or not. Putting choice as and end in itself is somewhat maximalistic, to put it mildly.

Now, I'm not that big of a fan of small government (in the strictly libertarian sense), and as such I think that governments should be proactive in setting rules for lock-ins of different sorts. Right now they are reacting, and in most cases it's too late. There's no useful legislation for nascent markets because technically there are no monopolies, for example.

Don't speak for everyone. iPhone is in the title of this thread.

Now, the original comparison table is too generous towards WP7 in terms of alternatives. Technically alternative applications are allowed but for all practical intents and purposes they are restricted to an extent that they will be almost unusable. Here's what I mean:

lack of native APIs makes some applications impossible (browsers, media players)

lack of copy/paste and interaction between applications makes browsers or navigation programs difficult to use (i.e. you have to type URLs/addresses in manually)

some programs are outright impossible because you can't make dialers, shells etc.

So allowing alternatives in the case of WP7 is basically marketing bull****.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
I'm not a moderator on this board but if I'd be one then I'd close this thread now or even better move it to spam area. In the table in the first post I read through the WM/WP7 and Android columns. I'm not interested in the other stuff. And the discussion recently seems only like iPhone vs. Android so what? Oh sorry. I mean jailbroken iPhone. Duh!

Once again:

XDA-Developers got the name from the first HTC device. The board is primary a development board for HTC devices. Even though recently they added boards for some more devices (Samsung, Toshiba etc.) - which is really fine - but the main focus is still HTC as I see it. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.

HTC devices were based on an OS called WINDOWS MOBILE. Recently HTC started to do more and more ANDROID devices and due to Microsoft banished their OS the focus on this board will more and more lean towards to Android.

so what I want to say is why do people on xda-developers keep talking about iPhone??? Even the sole mention of the name is blasphemy! It's TOTALLY out of interest!!! It's only leading to conflicts between people. This is a development board for HTC devices!!!! And I need noone on this board to tell me "You can make more money when developing for iPhone". What the f....? Is this a campaign from Steeve Jobs? Hey guys I'm on a WM board goddamnit!!!! Instead of wasting their time with threads like those people should rather contribute some nice tweaks or cook a ROM for Touch 2!!!!

That's my 2 cents, once again.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
There's the General forum, which is for "Anything that involves all of the phones". That's where this thread belongs.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Fa7my:
Please, my friend, don't talk about what you don't know nothing about.. Maemo is one of the best OS's - if not the best - I've tried (which I truly doubt you did)..

I would have posted proof of what I'm saying. but since it seems that you don't care, I wouldn't bother myself..
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
Interesting to see so many being petrified that readers might know what a tweaked/hacked iPhone could do and am amused to see how hard they try to suppress any discussion to truly compare the full potential of it. Not exactly the behaviours of a libertarian, is it, when the same people who espouse a set of values constantly violates the values they claim to uphold, and insist on discussing only the starting point of what each point could do rather than what the full capabilities are. Yet, throughout this forum, people always talked about tweaks and cooked ROM and what the phone's full potentials are. How amusing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Yep, and that's supposed to be the spirit of xda-devs really - openness of mind and lack of fear of technical barriers. It's especially strange when some start talking about DMCA and such, while cooking ROMs and posting SYS packages for leaked OS builds is [borderline] illegal, is a copyright infringement etc., which was proven by cease and desist letters sent by Microsoft (and even the holy open Google) in some cases.

I do find merit in the argument that xda is a WM (and now increasingly Android) forum; however, things are changing. There already is this section about WP7, and the whole place is expanding to embrace non-HTC devices. And, speaking of WP7, most of the tweaking/hacking will be done after jailbreaking obviously, so iPhone is less and less of an alien concept here.

And finally, this particular thread is misplaced, but it is about everything. And denying that the iPhone is a very powerful platform when jailbroken is plain silly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
+1.

And don't be surprised if you hear that HTC will be having its own OS or simply buy over Palm Pre, and issue awesome hardware to go with it, giving iPhone some serious challenge.

Why can't people keep their minds open? Why not simply look for the phone with the best maximum potential at the time instead of blindly paying allegence to any vendor? I'm fully prepared to switch to HTC Supersonic if I find it to be better myself. I have no problem admitting to the fact that I envy that hugh screen size. :-)

Another point I wish to make is that I can only contribute information areas that I'm familiar with, and ask questions on area that I'm interested in. Anyone with expertise in the other platform should feel free to share similar information, and ask question on platform where they have an interest in. If people aren't asking question on WP7, it may be because they lack interest in it, and there's nothing wrong with the lack of discussion on it as a result. I would never never try to suppress anyone talking about the other platform by calling them fanboy, troll, or other names in order to shut their mouth. This is a democratic forum.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Fa7my:
HTC wouldn't be able to do that now since Palm had a new investor..Harbinger Capital Partners has purchased a 9.48% stake in Palm for 16 million shares valued at $83 million as of Monday's closing price of the stock.

Source
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
True, but NOBODY did that.

So here's your first lesson, kid: Do not claim somebody said something, that in fact has never been said, in order to defame him. That will backfire on you.

I wouldn't want something that's ONLY powerful when jailbroken, though.