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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] blackout_pt:
I don't know if this as already been requested or not (and before you start flamming me, I did search).

I want to ask the cook community if it's possible to release and apk of the sense ui for the official 1.6 rom (I know I could just flash a new rom, but I don't have the expertise to do it by myself).

My reasoning for making this request is the following.

If it's possible to include the Sense in several roms, them it should be possible to create an .apk to install it, like when you install htc home screen on windows mobile pocket pc.

thanks for reading.

p.s. unless you have something useful to add, no waste your time and the forum resources just to say, for example, "it can't be done" if you are not a developer.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] KAwAtA:
How is saying "it can't be done" not useful? That's like me asking someone to make my magic faster than a computer! Is that possible? Probably not and I think it'd be nice (if I actually thought it could happen) if someone informed me that it's not possible.

I'm not a dev, but I think I can come up with reasonable answers for your question.

Since you aren't even able to flash a new rom (which requires pressing about 5 buttons after root, I don't know how you're not able to do that?), I'm assuming you know almost nothing and I thought it'd be a good idea to inform you, that something like this would be a waste of time and almost impossible. so, it can't really be done. Installing an APK file goes into your system/app or data/app. The sense ui has a freak ton of APK files along with it so installing just 1 apk file well (in my opinion) would not work out well at all. I believe there are also these odex files or whatever (I don't know much about them) but if I'm correct, those will also cause more problems. I belive that the original sense ui has a bunch of apk files in the system/app/ folder and people here even have issues porting out stuff from it, so good luck getting the whole thing out into an APK file on an unrooted phone.

It makes no sense to do this when we could just flash a rom.

Maybe someone could do something like the dxtop or GDE or w/e but that stuff lags like crazy and would probably be missing a lot of things from sense ui. Sense UI is nice and smooth, but already has some lag. It would be horrible and totally a bad idea imo.

Oh and one last thing, it's being done on the 2.1 right now. Why go back to 1.6

I find it ironic that you complain not to waste time and to not post something like "it can't be done." I could've just said that instead of explaining it to you but whatever, I could be wrong. I doubt you understood anything anyways and I think you sort of wasted the time of whoever read this because you didn't do enough research. But if someone can actually do this! Then I'm sorry for wasting your time. But I doubt it.

Whoevers going to do this, good luck lol.

I almost forgot to mention, There's like 1 sense ui rom for 32b. If it was easy, there would be more. Sooo since you're requesting this for 32B, I'm pretty sure.. it's not possible :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] blackout_pt:
My friend your response was more than useful. Finally someone explain it like I was (which I am) a complete noob.

As for your strangeness on my inability to install a custom rom, well, let me put it this way, I don't understand half of the steps to get the phone rooted, the right spl, radio and so on... :( In fact, the only flaw I have to point to the xda-community is that most, if not all, simply assume that everyone knows the "technical" terms by heart, which is not true. And you my friend (allow me to call you that) just made me an huge favor, by putting it in very simple and plain terms.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] KAwAtA:
I'm surprised you found it useful lol, I thought you'd find it more confusing.

The only way you'll really understand and learn it is to do it. For starters, do not touch your Hboot/SPL and Radio. That's the main reason people brick. For example, some people think it's a good idea to erase their Hboot and then reboot the phone. I don't know why, but as long as you don't touch the things which have high risk, you'll be fine. Just follow instructions and play with it (It will consume a lot of time though). Another advice is to get a recovery image on your phone first. Otherwise, you'll encounter a soft brick which may be a pain in the ass
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ceas909:
sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] the1gladiator:
normally i don't do this but i don't honestly think you have any idea what you 're talking about.

Sense was first run on 1.5 under the old hero framework last summer. The Droid Eris and Sprint Hero still haven't undergone OTA updates and are still running on 1.5 it was htc's decision to bypass 1.6 altogether.

So having said that, its possible if someone were to take the time to wade through HTC's garble and put it on a 1.6 OS, but why do that when eclair is out??? :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] the1gladiator:
Rooting a rom is a big step but an easy step. Let me tell you the best place to begin sort of a precursor before you come to XDA and thats TheUnlockr.com...They have all the tutorials for rooting, etc with video links to make it a "nice transition". thats where i started...then come back here and get ya feet dirty :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ceas909:
i can see why u dont normally do it.. because u dont know what ur talking about... the htc tattoo is running sense ui on top of donut.. its the only phone that got it... so check your info before u accuse someone of not knowing what they are talking about..

heres some proof http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-review-460.php notice where it says Android OS v1.6 (Sense UI) under specs....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] iamthefuture:
I can see your apprehension on rooting your phone, but you yourself said you did a lot of research on getting a sense APK for your unrooted phone. why not use some of the research time looking on this crazy website called google.com where you can search things like "how to root a MT3G 32B" upon doing so you will discover a WIDE selection of how to's, you also might find that they link you directly to videos on this other website called youtube.com that show you STEP by STEP how to root your phone. one might say its so easy a caveman could do it.

IMHO if you're too lazy to do any of these things, you probably shouldnt root your phone at all. people wouldnt flame you if didnt come off like an asshole in your first post.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] the1gladiator:
i didn't accuse you of anything shYtbrick...if tatoo is running sense ie 1.6 being greater than 1.5 then why make your first statement about it not being possible at all?

go play in traffic....

and btw, HERES some proof, not HEARS....F me
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ceas909:
well if u looked at the op he was asking about getting the sense apk (rosie) and putting it in a 1.6 rom... and ur the dumb f*ck that stepped in with a pointless and idiotic response...idiotic because you didnt bother to search before saying i didnt know what i was talking about...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] funbacon:
Tattoo is 1.6, but it's a WVGA device, G1 is a HVGA device then all object in Tattoo will be small than your G1 screen.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ceas909:
yea thats true.. but the rom that i was refering too had some framework edits still not perfect but its atleast good enough to try it out..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] the1gladiator:
damned please don't reply because you keep getting worse..your inital quote,

"sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui"

Which is it shYtbrick? Sense IS or IS NOT POSSIBLE on 1.6?

You contradicted ya damn self
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] oshizzle1991:
no eugene made a tattoo 1.6 sense rom, but there was a MAJOR ISSUE WITH SCREEN SIZE. its fully functional, just everything is half as big...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ceas909:
ur an idiot.. the op wants to know if its possible to build a 1.6 rom and add sense to it... its not possible if not it would had already been done!... but htc did do it on the tattoo..and only works on the tattoo... there is a tattoo port out there for the mt3g/g1 but thats it.... yea my first post wasnt very clear.. but i was just letting the op know about the tattoo port incase he wanted to try it out...
[Desire General] ephumuris:
Not heard much about games on the Desire. I've installed Gameboid (GBA Emulator) and a GBC emulator and both work perfectly on my phone with sounds. Shame they don't have multi touch!

Native games i'm not so sure about...
[Desire General] agent.m:
what do you mean by multi touch (lack of) ive used both and mega drive one and they play as they should. i find the vertical way works smoother than horizontal. I know what you mean about games although i know gameloft have a few games ie assassins creed and asphalt 5. shame i cant download them yet.
[Desire General] ephumuris:
No multi-touch...I.E when i play GBC emu and GameBOID you can't press a direction and say jump at the same time using the on screen buttons.
[Desire General] gumpelstilzchen:
There's a video on youtube that shows exactly that working with a Desire and Snesoid.

Cheers
[Desire General] ephumuris:
But not Gameboid i'm 99% sure that doesn't work and definitely not on GBCoid.
[Desire General] agent.m:
thanks for the clarity as i know it works on gameboid and gbcoid and gensoid. tried em all. just not perfectly. I really think the touch is over sensitive. portrait mode works better for me.
[Desire General] Guitarfreak26:
Paperthrow ftw!! LOL
[Desire General] Lats:
One game I can't put down is World War. If anyone is playing this and would like and ally, please feel free to add me on 3C4WJ4. :)
[Desire General] Sethos II:
SNESoid works perfectly here with multitouch. ;)
[Desire General] stu83:
Are there any games pre-installed? What games are people finding work well on the Desire? Due to get mine shortly so just looking for the heads up. Cheers.
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
Abduction works well and the clone of bejewelled called "Jewels" which is free in the market is actually better than the official Bejewelled app.
[Hero CDMA General] davide169:
This post was inspired by thematrixkid17 from this post.

You are going to need the following items to complete this mount.

Drill

small flathead screwdriver

1/4" drill bit

dremel with sanding disc

1 1/4" hole saw

plastic epoxy

I started with a belt holster like this from ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400110870258

It has a cutout for the headphone jack, usb and camera.

The holster itself.

The first thing you want to do is pry out the pin holding the clip

itself. Use a small flat head screwdriver. The pin is only press fit

in so it will come out easily.

The pin

You will be left with these parts.

You can then use a 1/4" drill bit to slowly remove the plastic rivet

holding the rest of the clip.

As seen here.

Once the rivet is removed you can remove the rest of the belt clip.

You will be left with a belt holster that looks like this.

Then take out your trusty dremel and grind down the extrusions on the

back of the holster.

You will be left with a piece that looks like this.

Next you will need to move on to the windshield holder or some other

holder that you wish to use. I chose to use the garmin nuvi series.

It uses a plastic ball and socket type mount that allows you to swivel

to any angle. They make windshield, bicycle, vent, and friction

mounts. You can find them all over ebay. The seller I bought from

appears to be gone now.

The most important piece you will need first is the actual bracket

mount itself which will be permanently mounted to the belt holster you

have prepared.

The piece looks like this on the front and this on the back.

Then using that 1 1/4" hole saw without the centering drill bit you

can mount the bracket in a vice and remove the excess off of the

bracket as it won't be needed.

You will be left with two pieces that look like this.

The most important piece is going to be the socket.

Now with some plastic epoxy you will mount the socket piece to the

back of the holster.

It will come out looking like this.

Once it dries you can use whatever ball mount you have chosen.

Example with the windshield suction cup.

With the phone mounted from the front and back

As you can see, you can still use the camera for layer or any other

augmented reality.

The rest of the pictures can be seen in this album.
[Hero CDMA General] smstutler:
Nice work.
[Hero CDMA General] lazyvegaskid:
thats the best ive seen

I would gladly pay for one of those, im not a great DIY person =\
[Hero CDMA General] ro_bro:
I definitely must get around to doing this! where the best place to buy plastic epoxy by the way?
[Hero CDMA General] QuiQNeZZ:
Nice work, I've been looking all over for something like this and don't know why sprint or HTC haven't made one yet.

I have just ordered something similar to this But I don't like how bulky it is. I had ordered one that was a bike mount but the little foam thingy and one of the arms that holds the phone came off and I can't find it. So I just ordered me another one. I think however that the mounting type on the one I ordered would probably be a little better since the mounting piece if flat. All you would need to do is dremel the little 4 pegs from the mounting plate off and glue that to the back of the phone belt clip piece. I think you'd get a better job since the glue would have more of a contact patch to glue onto then with the OP's "ball joint" method.

I'll probably order me one of those belt clips and try it myself. I like the form fitting outcome of this mod as opposed to the big bulky universal phone holder that I got.
[Hero CDMA General] Ceger:
Great work.

I was inspired to find something nice and compact like this DYI mount. For those that do not have time or skills to do this, I just ordered the following for $9.99, $14.99 shipped.

http://shop.vendio.com/cellularqueen/item/2042534021/?s=1270540562

Ceger
[Hero CDMA General] thematrixkid17:
Nice work. The only reason I didn't grind more stuff is that I wanted to be sure the epoxy was going to hold. But after some use, I think that the plastic would break before the epoxy comes loose :D

Looks great. More than augmented reality, I think this would be cool for doing a ustream of a trip or something. I may drill out a hole in my mount to do this.

I'll link this thread in my post too
[Hero CDMA General] unCoRrUpTeD:
Damn, I had all those parts from my old GPS unit that quit working, but threw them out a couple weeks ago. I had one with an extended arm, but the arm broke. Damn Wal Mart brand.
[Hero CDMA General] davide169:
Any hardware store will do. I got mine at Ace. I'm sure you can find it it at Walmart/Lowes/Home Depot though.

I used the mount today, the phone isn't going to go anywhere. The bigger problem is the anti-glare for the phone.
[Hero CDMA General] ro_bro:
thx, just picked up one from home depot. but now i gotta go back for the round hole saw bit - shoulda did this in one shot!
[Hero CDMA General] riggsandroid:
Very nice work. Cost wise ($$ and time) what are we talking? I'm guessing about 20 minutes worth of time, with a little extra for the epoxy to set, even if it is instant, I don't trust that.

I'm looking to unload my GPS now that I'm on the everything data and have it with my cell. Obviously I know I'm coming out ahead doing that, but just for reference when I try to justify it to the wife. LOL.

We'll see about that.
[Hero CDMA General] davide169:
The belt holster and garmin windshield mount cost under $10 shipped off of ebay. The epoxy was about $3.50 which will go a long way if I need to use it in the future for anything else.

The tools I already had so no expense there. If you have a dremel with a cut off wheel you could get away without using a hole saw. The hole saw just makes things cleaner and faster.

I'd say it took me a total of 10 mins to do everything. Most of the time just for grinding the holster flat which really didn't take all that much time.

The epoxy takes 5 mins to set and 24 hours to be fully cure.
[Hero CDMA General] gcstone787:
I would definitely pay for one of these. If you wanna sell one let me know. I'd be glad to pay thru paypal.
[TG01 Themes and Apps] papoble:
Does anybody knows any RD like vnc...?
[TG01 Themes and Apps] Pere:
"Like"? VNC viewer works OK on TG01! Try it and give me your opinion;)

Best Regards

Edit: You also need the VNC server.... the attached one works perfectly under XP (no tested under Vista)
[TG01 Themes and Apps] salambanan:
see this ;)

/showthread.php?t=292895
[TG01 Themes and Apps] papoble:
O.K. thanks for all im usin at least vnc viewer.;)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SE-Naz:
I would like to get some advice on which earphones I should get for the X10... I would like them for music... not too fussed if they have a mic or not...

Any advice appreciated

Thanks
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vin87:
I'm using these Sennheisers with my white X10:

They also have a black version. These earphones are pretty cheap ( I bought them for 20 euros, they sound good , nice deep tones and bass)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flamso:
Ouch, Sennheiser. They make great headsets but for me those bass-tones is way too much. Personally I use d-Jays. Crisp yet powered sound. I love them. :) Edit: Forgot price. Lol. In Sweden I can get them for about $100 and that's pretty nice. But yeah, it's way more than €20.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Super_Bob:
Looking to get a set of BH-905's when I get a free bit of cash!

Seemingly I cant post a link to them as thats not permitted for newbies :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZenithUK:
Just to help you out, here's a pic of them. :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teckhwee:
Are you guys able to speak into the phone's Mic when using your own earphones during a call? Mine can't and I have to plug them out when a phone comes in.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SE-Naz:
Im thinking about getting the CX500 earphones... got a price of £29.99... which seems to be good...

I want to have bassy sound but want my mids and trebles...

I am currently using boss earphones...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LadFromWales85:
CX500's sound good. I can't remember what mine are, but they are Sennheisers that have exactly the same buds as the Sennheisers Sony Ericsson use on their HBH-DS970 bluetooth headphones.

For arguements sake, the DS970's go louder than when using the headphone socket on the X10, but the headphone socket sounds nicer.

Been doing some comparisons Nexus vs X10 vs iPod Touch 3G with the same headphones.

Nexus goes louder than X10, quality doesn't sound as good, but it's rooted with Cyanogen which makes the volume louder.

Touch goes a lot louder than both devices, enough to hurt my ears, but does so with high quality. I can't decide whether or not the quality is better than the X10, it's very close.

My headphone tastes are bias towards bass, but I do like the mids and treble to remain...just like to have a thump also!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Super_Bob:
Cheers Zen!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jezpas:
Is it a european or american touch?

The european union puts a volume restriction on the iPods sold in europe, therefore an american (or asian or whatever) iPod Touch would be louder than a european one.

(just thought that might be a factor in the volume department)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LadFromWales85:
Not all european iPod's are subject to such measures IIRC. I know france is, and it is something I checked before purchase, as a 85dB limit would have been no good!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] windmoon:
UE MetroFi 170
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SalThach:
Im using the SE mw600 (Hi-Fi Wireless Headset With FM Radio)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orangedavie:
I have those sound excellent on my iPhone, if you like bass

will be using them on my X10 next week :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gavriel18:
iems ike westone, shures or etymotic are great. just be forewarned they are pricey. my westone um1 were bout 120. amazing clear sound but the bass isn't very heavy
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] im_iceman:
I'm using the first half of the standard headphones (MH 500).. So this gives me the microphone and allows me to take calls etc.. .then I plug in my JVC HA FX-300's (c. £50)..
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saltorio:
I can't wait to get mine. I sent in the Rogers promo claim form on Monday, so it'll be a few weeks at least.

I'm using the included X10 headphones right now, which are decent. I'm surprised that for earbuds that don't go into the ear canal, they actually stay in my ears pretty well (most such earbuds I've tried don't).

I did take a quick look at the local shopping center today while I way there for some buds that wrap over the ear, as I find them more comfortable and they stay in my ear better. However, I couldn't find any headphones of any style that had short cords like the ones included in the X10. Since the X10 has the mic dongle (which I use) I don't want to have an extra few feet of cable hanging around.

Anyone found any decent headphones that are on a short cable like those included with the X10?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onuris21:
I am using MW600 too.

I find the volume control is not that sensitive.

I have to swipe a couple of time before I can get it working.

Is it normal?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidlicious:
I've had the CX500. They're pretty good actually; they have a lot of bass if that's what you're into.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] augie7107:
Klipsch S4
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sergiu84:
I've had a pair of Sony MDR-EX35LP for a while now (cheap yet surprisingly good for the money), but I've found that my hearing is getting worse (for a variety of reasons) and I thought I should get some better IEM's which would isolate the daily commute noise more (Tube) therefore allowing me to listen to my music at a more reasonable volume.

I'm waiting for a pair of Jays d-Jays, and a SE MW600 headset to top it off - and a fix for the lack of track info display in the form of an update for an X10 while I'm at it.. Can't wait!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Astral07:
please oh please help, so frustrating...

i don't have the original SE earphones and i don't have a microphone from SE

what the hell do i have to buy (let's say from ebay) to have a microphone for my earphones so that i can make calls when driving

i have really good earphones so i want to be able to use them, i want something like this:

- a cable that will connect to my phone which then has a microphone and then has a normal 3.5mm jack for me to plug in my earphones

help!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndyD777:
I can highly recommend Shure SE420. However, if they are a little over budget Shure SE210 are very highly rated. Other then that Sennheiser range normally seem to get a good write up. :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sergiu84:
My MW600 arrived today, and I'm confused about one thing: the play/fwd/rev controls don't work. At one stage the Play button caused Google Listen to play something but not Mediascape, which was odd. I'll wait for it to charge up fully and reboot the phone as well, maybe it's just a bug.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oavon:
Nokia BK-505 bluetooth

http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/headsets/bluetooth-headsets/nokia-bluetooth-stereo-headset-bh-505
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Astral07:
anyone? :(