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[Nexus One General] digital_elysium:
I'm in the UK on a SIM-only deal on O2 and looking for a new unlocked handset. The N1 has caught my eye, and I think I will take the plunge.

I'm currently using a loaned phone, so I am quite keen to get a handset soon, but Google haven't given any firm info as to the release date of the handset into the UK other than "Quarter 2" which could mean any time up to the end of June.

So, should I succumb to my impatience and get the American one via the Google website? Other than a 2-pin plug and a VAT bill, what are the downsides? I've heard about things such as the sat nav being US-specific? How much of a deal is this? Are there any other "Americanisms" I should be aware of?

The price is something I would just have to take a chance on. I understand that the handset + VAT + shipping comes in at around £450 give or take based on exchange rate. I've seen a few on eBay a bit cheaper than this as well.

It's possible that buying the UK one from Google would be cheaper, but to be honest, I'm sure that even Google won't be able to resist a bit of "rip-off Britain" and I'd be surpised if they price the UK-version of the handset much cheaper than £450 anyway.

What are people's thoughts then? Anyone regret not being patient?
[Nexus One General] rfdparker:
Hey, I brought a Nexus One back in January - your estimate is about right - you get the VAT charge from the courier a week later in the mail. One thing I did was declined the country-specific AC adaptor as doing so seems to completely avoid import duty - the US adapter supports our voltage and hence works with most shaver adapter plugs.

On the note of 'sat nav' it is true that Google Maps Navigation is currently US-only, but hopefully Google will eventually make the necessary mapping licensing changes to make it available in the UK.

In respect to a 'UK version' my guesstimate is that it'll only be in respect to availability on contracts on some of our carriers, rather than a reduced-price model that isn't imported when ordered unlocked/contract-free.

Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Nexus One General] Makaijin:
The only reason to wait for a "UK" version is if you plan on getting it on contract. And even then you still have to order it direct from google's website as you won't be able to walk into a Vodafone store and walk out with a brand new Nexus One.

Off-contract price including VAT will be similar. The Desire from expansys is going for £440. So even if there is an "official UK" version of the N1 I doubt the price would vary much compared to the Desire, and even if it does it certainly won't be any cheaper. Even after VAT, buying from google direct now still works out at around the £440-460 mark.

So unless you plan on getting it on contract with Vodafone, there really isn't much reason to hold off.
[Nexus One General] Highland3r:
Have you considered getting a Desire?

You _should_ be able to get an unlocked phone for less than you can pickup and import a Nexus One. (Afaik you can get a PAYG Desire from Carphone Warehouse for ~ 400 quid)

Depends on personal preference really though - having played with a Desire I MUCH prefer the look and usability of the N1, sense just doesn't "do it " for me anymore and N1 should get updates before the Desire does (hopefully anyway!)
[Nexus One General] digital_elysium:
My rationale for waiting is that I assume a direct-from-Google UK version of the phone will be tailored for the UK market, e.g. sat nav, localisations, adaptor, etc. Of course, not having access to a phone, I'm not sure at the moment how problematic having an American version would be (if at all).

How easy is it to configure for UK operator settings, e.g. MMS?

Highland3r - I looked at the Desire, but I also don't "get" the SenseUI. My previous phone was an X1 WinMo phone which I flashed with a custom TouchFlo ROM, and I ended up flashing back to Stock. Seems to slow the phone down considerably and a bit too "idiot-proofed" for my liking.
[Nexus One General] martoto:
I’m considering Nexus One, but I will wait for its UK opening. I am quite sure that the price will be lower and the Desire is the reason. Currently, it could be taken for £350 and this is a lot of a difference towards £450 for an imported Nexus One. The only issue is that there is not any info when the Nexus One will be available here. The latest news stated for the current month, but we never know...
[Nexus One General] O and O:
Considered BundleBox? May be cheaper.
[Nexus One General] digital_elysium:
I entered a price of $529, a weight of 0.9kg, a size of 12x8x6.25 inches, and a type of Consumer Electronics :: Mobile Phone.

4-5 day delivery is £111.79 - including shipping (£38.41) VAT (£68.80), and an extra £4.58 handling fee.

My understanding is that Google use DHL, and it costs about $30. VAT would be similar. So you are probably saving about £10-20 by shipping direct from Google.

Cheers for the link and the info though; always handy to know about these things.
[Nexus One General] O and O:
No problem, always happy to help.

I wanted to get a Zune HD with them but found it cheaper on eBay.
[Nexus One General] jimbob_me:
I ordered my nexus 1 from america in feb for around £400-£420 all together, it was very fast delivery, i ordered it on a thursday and it arrived on monday, the DHL tracking facility was excellenf, i was even able to track the flight it was on! although admittedly that wasnt part of the dhl tracker.

Your best off ordering one from america me thinks, theres no difference really, yes you do need to configure some VPU settings to get it to pick up your signal, but its not hard to do, theres a thread on here somewhere with a walkthrough.

Also, for the nexus one on Play.com and Amazon your looking at spending £570! .... much cheaper to buy straight from google in the states, you get the free engraving which didnt seem to slow delivery down at all.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Htc-Nexus-O...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1271156008&sr=8-1
[Nexus One General] cwtaylor:
It is expensive and especially as we get ripped off on postage and VAT. You can get it on expansys for a little less I think. But I would rather pay extra knowing it's official to me like. Going to get the car dock and desk dock next week once student loans clear.
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Mine cost me £412, without the adaptor (use the US one and an 80p shaver plug), miles cheaper than any other retailer.

And you'll probably get it quicker ordering from Google as well, mine was ordered Tuesday evening and it was in my hand on the Friday.
[Nexus One General] Erniemac:
Rusty - i notice your on Vodaphone?!? What package do you use?

thanks in advance!
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Online billing says this: Your Household Discount Plan comes with 300 minutes + Unlimited Texts with Mobile Internet

It costs £15 per month, but it is discounted 50% for 11 out of the 12 months :D

Hooray for retentions!
[Nexus One General] CodeMonkey:
No problems with an import version - you set the locale to English UK on first use (think of it like setting up a PC after installing windows / OS X / <insert flavour of linux here>).

Piece of cake setting up the APNs for O2 UK - for O2 Contract I setup 2..

Name: O2 Mobile Web

APN: mobile.o2.co.uk

UserName: web

Password: web

MCC: 234

MNC: 10

APN: default

Name: O2 UK MMS

APN: wap.o2.co.uk

Port: 9201

UserName: o2wap

Password: password

MMSC: http://mmsc.mms.o2.co.uk:8002

MMS Proxy: 193.113.200.195

MMS Port: 8080

MCC: 234

MNC: 10

APN: mms
[Nexus One General] digital_elysium:
Cheers for the advice guys. I bit the bullet and ordered one direct from Google. following sound suggestions from people on here, I left out the UK adaptor. I fancied the desktop dock, but I have left it for now; hopefully get one cheaper later.

Came to about £370 minus the inveitable £65 VAT bill. Not too bad.

Even though I know it will take a week or two to arrive, doesn't stop me checking Google Checkout every 5 minutes to see if it has switched from "processing order" to "shipped"! :-)
[Nexus One General] CodeMonkey:
Nice one..

Mine took 3 days to arrive (ordered Sunday night UK time, arrived at work Weds morning).

Once you get a tracking number you can setup emails / texts from DHL on each change of status.

Enjoy the phone :-)
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
As above, 3/4 days is the norm for delivery times. You might regret not getting the dock though... it's another $20 shipping charge to order separately!
[Nexus One General] JAW$:
Hi,

I'm on o2 Sim only deal. I bought a sim free mobile from Google USA.

I think it worth your while & you mighty as-well just purchase one of the Google website & get it shipped.

Thanks

JAW$
[Nexus One General] digital_elysium:
There was method to the madness... the phone needs to be toddler-proof, which is the basically the equivalent of bomb-proof. So I have ordered a neoprene shell and screen protector. But I am guessing the desktop dock is contoured in such a way that it would not take the phone with a shell on.

So basically, I need to try it out first. If the shell is pointless, I will just take it off, then I can get a desktop dock; hopefully by then it will be released in the UK on Vodafone and they'll be selling the docks in the Vodafone stores. If the shell is mandatory, then I will just leave it as is.
[HD2 General] kl25:
I'm just a little bit confused. read up on a bunch of posts here that talks about the different models there are right now..

from what i've gathered

US t mobile = pretty much T8185 but with 1gh rom

EU = T8185

AU = t9193 with 850 band frequency coverage

so which version do retailers in asia carry?

thanks all.

cheers.
[HD2 General] Daekin:
ok..I want to correct you...in europe the HTC HD2 is T8585
[HD2 General] RedDevils88:
t8585 model
[HD2 General] kl25:
thanks for the help!
[HD2 General] MrBunnyWab:
Determine Model of Phone?

I just received my HD2 from an internet retailer, and 3g doesn't work with T-mobile US.

In band selection it has 900 and 2100 as UMTS options and no mention of 1700.

How do I determine exactly which model I have in my possession? I'd like to have all the facts before I ***** these guys out and demand a new and correct phone.

I tried to check the radio and rom versions, but I couldn't see way to tell the versions apart.

ROM 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE

Radio 2.08.50.08_2

Ram size 576mb
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
If you want a phone that is compatible with TMobile in the US, you need to buy it from... drumroll... TMobile in the US. No one else is compatible on their 3G net.

The TMoUS will have TMobile right across the top of the screen.

The 9193 will have NextG and "T" on the lower third of the back case.

The 8585 will be completely unbranded, as far as I know?
[HD2 General] Qazz~:
I'm living in Singapore, bought mine from starhub,

The model is T8585 and supports all frequencies [HSPA/WCDMA/GSM/GPRS/EDGE (900/2100/850/900/1800/1900 MHz)] , so it'll work everywhere
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
You only have 3g on 900 and 2100 with that model, though. All the models have gsm working on all the bands, so you can get regular service everywhere.
[HD2 General] MrBunnyWab:
Thanks for the info mazzarin,

Somehow 3g started working.... maybe I just needed to leave the house. 3g was showing in the status bar before, but failing to connect. My phone says T-mobile across the top, and the UPC on the box seems to be a US phone; however, under settings-->wireless control-->phone-->Band it still lists UMTS (2100+900 as an option), which doesn't make sense.

Any idea what this means?
[HD2 General] Miwa:
The Telstra 850+2100 phones say the same thing. Just ignore it. The bands are determined by the hardware amplifier circuits on the phone anyway. You have the TMOUS HD2, so you are fine. (Other than their tiny network :P)
[HD2 General] MrBunnyWab:
The network may be tiny, but 2mb/s down and 1 up is pretty good. Coming from AT&T service, I'm impressed with the speed. Now I can't just leave any major city :(
[HD2 General] kl25:
*deleted msg, see below*
[HD2 General] kl25:
k..im confused

here in canada, rogers uses 850/1900 for the 3G

if i get an unbranded T8585 from asia, will it support the 850/1900 for 3G?
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
im not looking this up to double check, ill leave that to you :) but I think the telstra works in canada.
[HD2 General] kl25:
yea i know about telstra..but as you may also know..its very expensive..close to $850 canadian

maybe i should be more clear with my question..and that's getting a t8585 from hong kong specifically, or anywhere else in china for that matter..
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
ahh yea, the price factor. well as already mentioned by zarathustrax the t8585 (same in europe as asia, , same phone, same bands )only does UMTS on 900/2100, so no 3g, edge only i'm afraid.
[HD2 General] kl25:
that really sucks...canada is always the slowest at getting good phones...

i guess i just have to wait it out and see if anyone will sell the telstra at a good price..cant believe some ppl spent $900 on that phone... :S
[Desire General] scutworker:
Hi.

I'm just about to get my HTC Desire and would like to prepare some videos to watch on it.

I'll be converting using Quick Media Converter, but does anybody know what codec and size I should be using?

Cheers.
[Desire General] rodzt37:
HI dude its 800x480
[Desire General] rodzt37:
Also you should encode in x264 to out put in .mp4
[Touch Cruise Android Development] salah_heart:
when i updated my polaris to android on the first time there r no proplem at all

with (polymod2.1)

but now when i updated it to(mssmison's Eclair ) now i got the big proplem

no signal network at all

i changed it to the oreginal windows again but still have the proplem i give it many kind of radio but the proplem is the same

plz help me what can i do?

thanks
[Touch Cruise Android Development] meknb:
have a look at this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=652352&page=2 the only way he fixed it was by flashing original rom and original spl
[Touch Cruise Android Development] salah_heart:
thanks will try and telling u

thanks alot dear brother
[Touch Cruise Android Development] nyestegabesz:
For the first time I had a similar problem after installing android: No radio connections (GSM, Bluetooth, Wifi Etc...)

I have the solution was as follows:

1. Install the latest original ruins, preferably the most recent radio. This is far as I know now 1.59.42.15

Here is the link:

Original HTC ROM:

RUU_Polaris_HKCSL_WWE_3.19.831.3_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship

RUU_Polaris_HKCSL_WWE_3.19.831.3_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship mirror

2. Install the Android again.

The Android (if I know well...) is installed without radio, therefore remains the original and fresh radio on the Polaris.

For me it became a method, of course, possible that this is not the right solution for you. ;)

Note: I have a first generation Polaris (Pola100)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sportsplayer5959:
One quick question… if i root and install the 2.1 ROM will i still be able to update the firmware regularly through the phone’s update firmware feature under settings/about phone/system updates/firmware update?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jUgGsY:
Nope.

If you want to go to official 2.1 when its released, you'll have to go back to your stock 1.5, and then update in the settings>about>...etc. menu..

FYI. When the official update is released, the exploit used to gain root will most likely be patched, and you'll be stuck on that firmware until somebody finds another exploit.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radxcoresteven:
Keyboard lags?

I'm an idiot and can't tell the difference between reply to post and new topic.

<3
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justinisyoung:
okay, TOTALLY the wrong thread radxcoresteven. if you need help, post that in the pancake 2.1 thread, please.

and secondly, please please STOP posting these threads that are titled "please help!", "i need help", "HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!", "OMG WHAT HAPPENED". they provide no information at all. for your issue, why not make the thread title "does using 'update firmware' work on rooted 2.1 roms?". it makes much more sense.

and no, the update firmware option won't work on the rooted roms. like it was said before, you'll probably have to go back to 1.5. or use an official RUU.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danknee:
+1

If you go with official releases you can forget using any root apps.. I use adfree, autokiller, drocap, etc. Upgrade now and then you can upgrade to a pre-rooted version of 2.1 from XDA Devs when the final release 2.1 comes out...that is if Sprint ever wraps up their final release.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radxcoresteven:
I feel like an idiot..I thought it hit new topic..lol

Sorry.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
this is why ill wait until the final comes out and we get a rooted / custom rom made of it. :cool:
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azyouthinkeyeiz:
Your answer...

Type

2.1 official upgrade into the search bar in the top right corner of this page, under the search tab...

Read a little bit, and there you have it...

You people answering these questions are just feeding an endless chain, look at how many "IF I CAN UPDATE TO 2.1" threads there are....

Ignore them, and force people to stop being lazy.. And then the threads die away...
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sportsplayer5959:
Well thank you all for your help. i have rooted and installed 2.1 but plan on going back to 1.5 when the actual update comes out.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bikcmp:
You said it! :)
[Mogul, XV6800 General] rocksolid99:
Does anyone have a version of outlook that supports this on the xv6800? I've been searching around but having no luck. Any input appreciated. :D
[Mogul, XV6800 General] rocksolid99:
Bump on this? I have a feeling it is because I am using gmail and not a 2010 exchange server.
[HD2 General] OneGoodKnock:
I am slowly but surely filling up my 2Gb card, so need a bigger one. I am a bit confused as to which class of card to buy. I am probably after either a 4Gb or possibly and 8Gb card. But dont know which class to buy.

Could somebody explain the why's and wherefores please?
[HD2 General] xeebot:
The higher the class the faster the card and likely more expensive. My US TMO HD2 came with a 16gb class 2 and it works fine, but some games have to be installed on the phone itself because my card is too slow, the games stutter if I try and play from the SD card.

Basically the cheapest card will do unless you have a lot of graphic intensive apps on the card.
[General Topics] Gootah:
Am I the only one who wants Bump for WinMo? Why is there no port? Is M$ out of the loop on this one?

...and please don't mention shake2send...
[HD2 General] unleashed12:
Yeah my question is how often should i run a task 29?.. before i flash every rom?..or just once in a while?
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
only when moving to a different rom.flashing the same rom again doesn't need it
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrWeird:
Hi all.

I have just took the plunge and swapped from my iPhone to a new X10.

I am loving android and all the features that go with it :)

The question I have is - on the memory card slot on the phone, can you still slide out the memory card even though it clicks in? I can do it on mine.

I push in the memory card and it clicks then I can still slide it out. Is it meant to do this?

Thanks!

DrW
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laurence0609:
It's the same as mine so I guess it was designed that way.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skyband123:
Hi there, Just need a bit of clarification.

I rooted my G2 touch using the Goldcard method about a week ago and it's now running Modaco 3.2. I was preparing my phone for post i had just sold it via ebay. i decided to do a format SD Card without thinking. I got a message saying the SD card was damaged after this in notification window. After panicking a bit i formatted the card using my pc. everything is now working.

My only problem is that is this going to affect installing custom Roms for the new owner as i remember having to change something in HEX editor with regards to the SD card?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Ps Can i do a factory reset with a modaco custom ROM?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ddotpatel:
If you are running MCR 3.2 already then the new owner will be able to install other custom ROMS no problem as the patched recovery thingy is already on your phone. Dont sweat it,.... But you might want to let them know about the SD showing as damaged,... You dont want -'ve feedback.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] n00b3r:
Hello,

I'm wondering if anyone actually tried using acetone or a sugarcube to remove the T-mobile logo where the earpiece is? I'm currently using the phone in Canada, and all my collegues/friends ask me where they could sign up for T-mobile over here in Canada and it's getting rather annoying.

I'm willing to go ahead and try the sugarcube/acetone method if people are having doubts, if no one else had tried it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Yervand:
Was wondering about the same. Any luck anyone?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] n00b3r:
Guess nobody, I'm going to wait for my brand new Mytouch3G 3.5mm to come in the mail, and I'll try it on the old one and update this post.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Yervand:
Alright, thanks. I'll be waiting for your reply! Just don't forget.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] digitaljeff:
to noob3r.. im sure it would work but would look nasty after the fact as the text is under a clear coat ... so you would lose the nice clear coat and see that something has been removed/ scratched off...

i would just tell your friends that yes t-mobile is here in canada and it goes by the name of Rogers :P
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Yervand:
True... It is under the coating. If a logo bothers then the only thing to do is probably buy a top part and carefully replace it if it is possible. I am sure it should be.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] KAwAtA:
yeah I'd do that too, or just change the faceplate
[Nexus One General] nixxofugi:
Hi,

Unfortunately, today I scratched my phone. To the left of the trackball I have a somewhat minor scratch in the metal chassis of the device. It's not as deep as an engraving would be on the back of the phone. So I am hoping it can be removed easily. Has anyone had experience with removing scratches from the metal or maybe even removing engraving ? I really want to fix this :-(
[Nexus One General] LunatikBunnie:
Probably those polishing stuff works, but i've only tested them on the iphone's chrome sides. But they're only good for removing hairline scratches
[Nexus One General] Flippy125:
Battery acid, also that DIY stylus might help too if you rub it on there hard enough.

But seriously, try car buffer or if it isnt rooted just tell HTC that your phone is getting horrible 3g service and you want a replacement
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I've heard of people using a gray-ish permanent marker...

Either way, once you get it fixed up, I highly suggest getting a BSE (or another skin).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=618006

Only $8. And I'd say worth more than 10 times that for how good it looks and protects!
[Nexus One General] LunatikBunnie:
Personally I like the N1 naked, its just so damn sexy on it's own :P

putting it side by side on my iPhone 3GS makes the N1 look like a supermodel next to an obese.... you get what I'm saying:P
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
It looks even better with a BSE on, trust me.

My buddy at work got an N1 and we put ours side by side. Everyone agreed that mine looked WAY better. The BSE gives it a badass gun metal look :cool: Check out the link at the top of the Poll thread to see pics of it "in action".
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
No offense, but you're starting to sound egotistical.. Again, im not trying to be rude, but you kinda are lol.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
That word doesn't mean what you think it means...

Either way, just trying to help, Jesus...
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
My mom told me to stop using big (or unnecessary) words out of context, guess I should have listened..

Edit: how does egotistical not fit into what I said? I would think it made perfect sense...