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[HD2 General] np231:
Love my HD2

I Love my HD2 and all the potential it has.... I am running the stock T-mobile rom and have not experienced any freezes or hangups....

Main selling points for me:

1. 4.3" screen (amazing web and typing experience)

2. MS Office (Heavy office user so)

3. Windows Mobile (No need for stupid itunes to do everything, highly customizable, everyone has their own tweaks and mods.. just AWESOME)

Now this is for people who complain... I don't see why tweaking feels like a project to you... If you want the phone to do do multitasking then you will need to tweak some functions of the phone... I think Apple has created a generation that can not handle complex tasks by simplifying everything... The feeling of solving a problem and making the phone run the way you want is amazing... For me personally if the phone can do basic things plus Internet, Office, and Email with some way of time management option then it is a very good phone..

My suggestions for running HD2 smooth without any hangs or resest

1. USE TASK MANAGER and close apps running in the background(I find Dutty's taskmanager works the best, there are other options that have better graphics)

2. BSB Tweaks

3. Disable the tabs that you don't use... (Twitter, Recent documents, footprints, weather)

4. Always install apps to your SD card. (Except some necessary apps that are required to be installed on the phone for better performance)

5. Ferrari GT lags because it is run from the SD Card so its not really the phone but the performance of the SD card

Hope this helps...
[HD2 General] :
Amen, another satisfied HD2 customer...and not a WinMo hater... :p
[HD2 General] robrob777:
I disabled the HTC sense,installed home screen customizer, thumbcal, s2u2 and opera 10. I don't have any kind of lag or problems with the software. I'm comming from a jailbroken 3gs. for me the HD2 is better(notifications, multitask and customization options. I dont like the sense ui.
[HD2 General] gnash.s:
I'm loving my TmoUS HD2 so far, it's the best winmo out of the box. But it gets better every day, as I'm applying various tweaks and loving it. Note that, I don't mind hard-reseting my phone to get a better customization that suits my need!

So, for the comparison sake to any other phone, running Pandora/SlackerRadio & Navigation software when I'm driving around, I'm sold! I use the FM transmitter very much, and running these together let me hear the directions in my Car stereo and never missed an exit :)

p.s. I'm a winmo enthusiast!!
[HD2 General] gnash.s:
Oh man, just when I thought HD2 is cool, they release iPhone 4.0, which supports the same thing that I was talking about. Well I can still use this feature for few more months before they release it.

It's getting really hard to cheer for a dead-end OS anyway. I still like the way I used to tweak my phones for better performances..
[HD2 General] ajftl:
Lol. Yea dude. iPhone haters are having super high blood pressure right now
[HD2 General] gnash.s:
I actually don't hate the iPhone, I just hate the idea that Steve tells me when & how I should eat and sleep.. :)
[HD2 General] jasonziter:
So True

You couldn't be more correct. Just because the HD2 is not a set of Lincoln Logs or some Legos doesn't mean its not a great piece of hardware. Windows OS computers are no different. They take some tweaking to optimize them. Once I flashed the ROM with Touch X-Treme the phone is EVERYTHING I hoped it would be. Add in the new Opera Mobile 10 and some other random software, and you have a piece of hardware that kicks the iPhone's A** (from a former iPhone fanboy)
[HD2 General] fhaines:
HD2

Unfortunately, I think the majority of the complaints about this phone are incorrect, from owners who really have no business owning this phone or any other Windows powered phone.

They should probably go and get the basic flip that their carrier offers and be much much happier. :rolleyes:

fhaines:D
[HD2 General] zole2112:
I actually loved my N1, sold it to get the ATT version but thought I'd try the HD2 first for a while...jury is still out, I'm still learning how to use the HD2
[HD2 General] :
I whole heartedly agree with that statement. :cool:
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I second that.
[HD2 General] S_M_E:
I'm with you on this one, he's clearly a macfanboi. My HD2 is rock solid and after finding and applying a few registry tweaks it's clearly faster and more responsive than any of my friends' iphones. I'm glad I chose the HD2...
[HD2 General] vikramdhani:
Stick to iPhone only please because you dont know any better :) it will be good to for you and will be good for us
[HD2 General] ajftl:
Guys. Stop pretending the HD2 rocks and never freezes up or act choppy. I'm not the only one returning this phone. If u go back to the general talking page there is 100000 thread Luke this one. So dot say I'm

a apple fan bla bla bla crap. I keep even trying not to give up by installing new tweaks or resetting back to normal and phone still ****ing up. iPhone does not so that. iPhone keep up with me. Heavy MMS/texting/Facebook/Internet and doesn't act choppy like hd2 do after 2 hours of use. Trust me I would love to use the hd2 So I don't want to blame htc so I blame windows.

Ps. The new iPhone 4 os update kick ass so no reason to keep getting headache trying to fix a phone or trying to make it run better.
[HD2 General] jubeh:
To borrow from the former analogy between mobile phones and cars, you just don't know how to drive a stick.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
My HD2 runs great. I can do more with it than I could ever do with my iphone... but I know how to use WM... I've been using it since my ipaq 2215 back in 2003. I've used iphone and android, also. Iphone is made for everyday people... anyone can use it. It's very user friendly, but VERY limited. The new iphone 4 update doesn't look much better with its fake multitasking with no task manager. I'm sticking with WM6.5 for now. My next phone will probably be an Android phone, though, cause i'm not a fan of how the new Windows phone 7 is looking. Sounds like they are copying iphone.
[HD2 General] mystik610:
I don't know what you guys are doing with your HD's to make them so problematic. I keep both my iPhone and my HD2 on me all the time, and the HD2 is much faster and smoother at handling core functions. My iPhone is actually the one with the lagging keyboard, and sluggish texts when I don't clean them out.

I will say that the iPhone is more intuitive, but once I figured windows mobile and sense out, I've found that its actually easier to use. I mean, if you want to check your e-mail, just swipe once to the right...texts, swipe twice, and so on and so forth. Texts, e-mail, twitter, facebook, stocks (which I do watch), internet browser and shortcuts, are just a few swipes away. Its a lot less cumbersome than opening and closings apps in the iPhone (and yes I'm aware that the iPhone 4.0 will be able to multi-task, but it isn't true multi-tasking and I honestly still prefer sense's interface). the facebook app for windows mobile blows, but who needs it when you have a display that's large enough, and a processor fast enough to display facebooks full page.....AND have access to all of facebooks functions thanks to skyfire's flash support. Apple can trash adobe flash all they want, but until we transition away from it, you'll never have a full web experience without it!
[HD2 General] Sweet Lowdown:
You are a fan boy, if you don't like the HD2 stop using it. If you were not a fan boy you would just downgrade back to the fruit and done; but instead you feel the need to praise your iphone. The forums are to get help and to lend know how not to state your opinion about what your favorite phone is. Like someone else said you can't drive stick, so just use your other phone and quit your *****ing; fan boy.
[HD2 General] paolodoctolero:
Thats true. To all those who keep on complaining about HD2 choppiness, if you don't like the phone return it and get what you want.
[HD2 General] ajftl:
Thanks for agreeing with me :). It does get choppy!
[HD2 General] paolodoctolero:
I don't agree with you coz it haven't happen to me. I was just saying if it happens to you and you don't like it just return it and stop ranting.
[HD2 General] ajftl:
Hmmm. Wondering why other guys r having same issues I have ! Hmmmm. Lol. U guys r just using ur phones to make phone calls I guess... Or just to look at it .... Anyway. Thanks for agreeing with me....again....
[HD2 General] dailydriver:
Again I have no problem with my HD2. It's like this. Some people builds computer and never buys it retail. If a person who don't know anything about computers go out and buys all the parts to build one. They will complain how bestbuys pc's are better and the one they put together doesn't have any sound. BestBuys computers always comes with sound. LOL

You'd be surprised how many of my clients comes to me after watching me build one for them and trying to build their next one by themselves. How come the video is so choppy? How come there is no sound? Drivers are needed folks. Some them have ben using their PC's like that for years. And they all have iphones. LOL
[HD2 General] John Cipolletti:
Thanks for letting me know your situation with the HD2. I just tried the phone and compared it with my upgraded HTC Touch Pro 2. I was frustrated from the beginning. I think that one of the big problems with this phone is the capacitor screen. I have programmed iPhones for 4 years and see what you are saying. BUT, after tweaking the Pro 2, it is as fast as any of my iPhones (Pro 2 with the resistent screen). I have also seen trouble with Androids in screen response (even those with the snapdragon processor).
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I think other people are having the same issues because for some reason, ALOT of people who have never used WinMO have gotten the HD2. I have never seen so much hype over a WinMo device before. Alot of people have moved from the iphone and from android and from "dumb" phones over to the HD2... much more than I've ever seen before. Anyone else notice this? I have never seen so many noobies on a WM phone before. It's kind of funny, too, it being pretty much the end of Windows Mobile as we know it, with WP7 coming soon. But I think this is why we're seeing so many people having issues... because there never was a WinMo device in the past that had such a migration of new users to it, so of course there weren't as many noobie issues arising with them.
[HD2 General] flexte:
I returned my device for 3 reasons.. real reasons.... people coming from iphones should have done their research first. this device multitasks and unless you kill programs they will keep running. the iphone only runs one program at a time so it wont have this issue. Bottom line as previously posted learn to use a task manager. They really need to have you take a quick online test before being allowed to post in this forum. if you fail you need to read some wikis until you have enough general knowledge to post here.
[HD2 General] mystik610:
not have any issues on my hd2...esp after flashing energy rom.

i am having this problem on my iphone

m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&client=mv-google&hl=en&v=vAeHRXSTEOc
[HD2 General] S_M_E:
Mine is fine so far so stop pretending that it doesn't. :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] Reignzone:
(+1)

Seriously guy, try learning HOW TO utilize everything that a SUPERPHONE is capable of doing.

I haven't had any problems whatsoever. It's incredibly snappy, my RAM values always remain high... and I haven't performed a soft reset in nearly 3 days. How's that for a slice of fried gold? :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] :
I'm running Elegancia and that beast is sheer pwnage. If someone has a problem with the HD2 they should return it, and let the rest of us enjoy our amazing piece of tech. And yes I agree that there are too many WinMo noobs who have been using the iPhone OS for far too long.
[HD2 General] S_M_E:
Perhaps the trolls are just unhappy due to poor reception from under their bridges? :D
[HD2 General] a_ok2me:
Troll?

No offense but this thread is about, "Soooo i give up....HD2 ..blame F***ing windows". Wouldn't someone opposing this topic be considered a troll?
[HD2 General] :
LOL...it's true, it's true, however, the creator of this thread is something much worse than a thread troll...he is a forum troll...yes that fiendishly evil creature that is not just content to throw rocks at the people who walk by his spot under the bridge but goes out to other people's bridges and throws their own rocks at them...lolol...then turns on the local passerby...:D
[HD2 General] brownhornet:
Im actually rather hating the fact that I traded my 3gs for this phone. I'm pretty familiar with winmo since i've had some win mo phones in the past.. but I assumed that the snapdragon processor would alleviate a lot of the lagging/slow issues associated with 6.5... I couldnt have been more wrong. The lag in the messaging is just terribly ridiculous...especially when i'm using swype. Sometimes I have to literally sit and wait on the thing to catch up.:mad::mad::mad:

That was one reason I went to the 3gs and an android as my backup phone because I got so tired of having to constantly flash roms just to get the phone to function like it should have out of the box.. but it doesnt seem like much has changed. Really I just wanted to get accustomed to the size of it until the EVO drops so I may keep it until then... or I may try to swap it out for a nexus.
[HD2 General] brownhornet:
I had the mogul, the tp, the tp2 and its still slow to me. I just dont understand how this phone can have a snapdragon and still be slow when it comes to messaging compared to other phones with slower processors. The only factor it COULD be is that the phone is winmo. I was honestly somewhat satisfied with my tp2... until I got my 3gs and my hero. It wasnt until that I realized just how slow it was. I liked winmo because it suited my needs in the business sense and I figured that once the snapdragon was added my main gripe with it.. how laggy it was..would be a non-issue but its not.

One of my other gripes is the lack of development for winmo. I know the phone is "supposedly" geared more towards business users.. or at least the excuse I always hear, but finding apps for this phone is far and few between. That's one other thing that REALLY kills me.. im basically having to use the same apps I used on the tp & tp2. With android & iphone there are new apps everyday and the apps are constantly updated. And MS's app store is a joke. I also hate having to go into the start screen and open the task manager just to kill apps.

On the flip side, the camera is WAY better than it was on the tp2. As far as pics go I think the tp2 took the worst pics out of any phone ive ever owned.
[HD2 General] :
In all honesty, I don't understand what is happening with this phone:

One second you have a user saying "hey this is the best thing since sliced bread" and the next you have another user saying "this is the biggest POS I have ever owned".

I think the mods should just close this thread and others like it.

Let people who want to have the phone have it and enjoy it, and those that don't like the phone STFU about it and live with they're choices instead of posting some garbage thread about how much they hate it in the section dedicated to information and helping people.

Just my $.02

~Jasecloud4
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I don't understand why so many people bought this phone if they didn't want WinMo. When I get a new phone, I always go for the top of the line WinMo phone. If I used android, I'd go for the top of the line android phone. If I was an iphone user, I'd get the latest iphone. People should get the phone for the OS it uses. When you buy a computer, you decide based on the OS. Mac users get macs, windows user get windows. Why should it be any different with phones? There are going to be new phones coming out for every mobile os soon enough... just because WinMo was the first to get the top of the line phone doesn't mean you should switch to WinMo if you're not comfortable with it.

And if you make the decision to get a phone just for the specs and not think about what OS it uses, don't go on a developers website for the phone and talk about how much it sucks because it doesn't perform the way you want and it's not like the OS that you are comfortable with. The OS is the first thing you should look at when buying a phone.

The majority of people are very happy with the HD2. Most people bought the phone because it was a WinMo phone, because that's what they wanted. They knew what to expect with WinMo. I wouldn't have bought this phone if it wasn't a WinMo phone.

If you are having problems with the phone, there are plenty of people here who will help you out if you ask. But claiming HTC messed up by putting WinMo on this phone or saying this phone sucks compared to whatever other phone you prefer just because you're having problems is stupid. Plenty of people are happy with this phone. There's plenty of people to help. And there will be phones with similar specs coming out for the other mobile OS's. This is Windows Mobiles top of the line phone.
[HD2 General] mystik610:
And of the Apps they add to the App store and Android market everyday 2% are useful....and they're useful only because they add functions that are innate to windows mobile. There are a few gems that are added to the app store, but most of the apps are pointless (coming from an iPhone user)

A small price to pay for having true multi-task functions. Opening and closing apps in the iPhone gets old after a while...and the so called multi-tasking they've added to iPhone 4.0 won't make it much better.
[HD2 General] brownhornet:
Why do so many of you go to crying like school girls when someone posts a review of the phone that isnt putting it on a pedastal like the rest of you? As long as people are posting all positive reviews then nothing is said.. but as soon as someone posts a criticism about it people are ready to run crying to the mods. I would assume MOST of us are adults here and there are always 2 sides to perspective.
[HD2 General] brownhornet:
Im sorry but you can kill the "fart app" argument you all love to use so much. Let's just be realistic here, the tom tom and navigon on the iphone are WAY better.. and thats with ONE ipa file without having to download 20 different registry tweaks just to get it to work.. and half the ones for this phone wont even work in landscape. Two, last.fm radio is WAY better than slacker and pandora. You get unlimited skips WITHOUT having to buy a subscription. And many would argue that apps like urbanspoon, loopt, mlb at bat... and its not even just that, even the apps that all three platforms share the development is ALWAYS better and more up to date on the other two.

I'm NOT turning into a winmo bashing thing but I get so tired of people making this dumb argument that none of the iphone/android apps are useful just because winmo lacks terribly in that department. I like winmo but im a realist and thats just the truth. There isnt even a decent twitter app for winmo STILL after all this time.. unless you want to count touch twit. There still hasnt a twitter OR facebook app that gives live notifications.

And FYI my 3gs was jailbroken so I could multitask without issue. I'm not trying to turn this into winmo vs iphone yet again.. im simply using other OS as a measuring stick. The phone HARDWARE is very nice... but winmo 6.5 lacks terribly. Funny part is how everyone bashes the iphone here but microsoft damn near took a carbon copy of it to make wp7.
[HD2 General] :
Crying like a school girl? So many of us? Huh...you really are an idiot. If you had actually read my post you would see that what I said wasn't a whining complaint, but rather a simple critique of a troll who seems to have nothing better to do than talk about how terrible something is without offering any solution or taking any advice. You should pay attention.

Really? I believe after the many pages of this argument I was the first one to ask the mods to politely shut down something that is going nowhere, yet clogging up the forum for other members actually trying to find productive threads. When reviews are positive, many things ARE said by many people like "wow it's awesome", "I love my HD2", and "this phone is amazing". YOU should really think out your arguments in advance; ones that lack logic don't belong in a development forum.

Indeed, we are. You are not. If you could read you would see that in just the past five pages people have offered comparisons of operating systems that systematically detail the pros and cons. In fact more than two facets have been argued in nearly every one; meaning your inflection was yet another aspect of trolling in your entirely illogical and ridiculous post. Please think before you write. Although not all of us speak English very well, it would reflect better on you if the arguments and insults you present contained at least some kind of researched backing.

I again state that this thread is useless, clogs up the forum, and yields little value for both members and administrators.

~Jasecloud4
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I don't see anyone crying like a school girl... I see people arguing their point against people who come on a HD2 development forum and say that the HD2 sucks or that it should work like this and that. Most of the time they are not asking for suggestions or help, they are just making negative statements about the phone. Most people on this forum love their phones and don't want to be told that their choice in phones suck and that this and that phone is better. Just because you're having a problem with the phone doesn't mean that everyone has that problem. If you want to come to this forum and ask for help or ask how to do something, great... that's what this forum's for. But there's no reason to come on and say that the phone sucks and they f###ed up by putting WM on it, etc. By doing that you are basicly telling everyone that chose this phone and love the HD2 that their choice is wrong. I don't know what you expect to happen by posting negative things about the HD2 in a HD2 developers forum.
[HD2 General] sn95chico:
About HD2

Ya after owning the nexous one and then owning the HD2 i love both phones but i have had the same problem with mine its super slow and it reminds me of my old blackberry storm having to do a battery pull every 5 hours.

Im going to keep the phone as a spare but i went back to my n1 because its way better phone to me but i paid full price for my n1 and resigned my contracted and got the HD2 for the sale price so that's why i have both.

Ya and removing sinse is pointless thats the best part of the phone lol

hope you figure it out

they are both great phones but everyone likes what they like. If you try the n1 you would love it too.
[HD2 General] domineus:
I love the way people think they can transition to a touch hd2 with ease =)

windows is a different bear than osx however it is also a better bear. The tmous stock rom was good but dutty is great that's the difference between the two

its pretty darn responsive fast and stable. Been running for days without a hard reset so I wonder what everyone is talking about

I like the speed and balance of windows I think the only other thing I need to install is chainfire's drivers and I will have the ultimate device and I am thoroughly satisfied with it

also disable weather animation to save memory too