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[Nexus One Accessories] thm92630:
I thought I should mention this because it drove me crazy until I figured it out: if you are using the dock in a speakerphone setup (I don't have a BT deck), the volume control is backwards. In other words, you have to press the left side to raise the volume and the right side to lower the volume. Even so, not near loud enough for my liking - but I do have a convertable and which is noisy even with the top on...
[Nexus One Accessories] johnp263:
My Personal Pros and Cons

I have the doc and here is a short list of my personal pros and cons.

Pros:

Fits snugly but not too tightly. Looks like a skin would work with it.

Build quality is very nice, not flimsy at all.

Comes with a adhesive backed disc to attach the mount to something besides your windshield.

Plug and play, it just works out of the box.

On/Off button and headphone jack are still accessible when docked.

Good speakerphone quality. Loud enough for phone conversations. Mic still picks up fine.

Cons:

No Lineout on the doc, have to use the headphone jack to get audio into your car stereo. One purpose of a doc is to not have to plug / unplug wires all of the time.

Calls received when phone is docked in landscape mode show as vertical. The calls screen should be horizontal. For instance the picture of a person is on its side. Have to swipe upwards instead of across to answer / ignore.

Phone screen turns off when in Maps, or anything else, even car-home. Only navigation stays on. The phone should behave like it does with the desktop dock and leave the screen on.

Hard to adjust volume when it is docked. Volume not loud enough for media playback from the doc's speakers. Speaker phone volume is plenty loud, why can't the MP3 playback be just as loud?

Finally...

I believe my personal solution will be to keep using the doc as is, but to disable both the hands free and media Bluetooth functions of the doc. I will then pair my phone to my car stereo through my Bluetooth hands free / stereo headphone dongle.
[Nexus One Accessories] chaval:
there is a setting in the development menu, where you can allow the screen to be always on while charging. Haven`t tried it cos I dont have a dock.
[Nexus One Accessories] krumb:
lol @ so many people wanting a 3.5 input on the dock...'specially when it's said, "i don't want to have to constantly plug/unplug the 3.5..." really? am i missing something here???? you're having to clip/unclip the phone into the dock on a regular basis...so lift your fat, lazy hand and plug in the 3.5 when you plug in the phone!

wow
[Nexus One Accessories] uhohhotdog:
How do you get to the development menu to enable this setting?

Edit:

NM...just found it

Settings > Applications > Development > Check the Stay Awake box
[Nexus One Accessories] darc0n:
Settings, Applications, Development, Stay Awake
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
That's going to require some kind of power source at some point. And it should be fine for Bluetooth audio, but microphone placement is critical for phone use.

All these dock solutions for phone use are second rate if they don't include a wired microphone that can be strategically placed, IMO.

To me, the Google car dock looks too expensive for a half-assed hands free phone solution. It should have included a line out for radio inputs and a line IN - for an included hands free microphone, and it all should have been included at this price - or at least very close to it.

A proper dock should never require additional connections to the device being docked. That's the purpose of having the dock in the first place.
[Nexus One Accessories] johnp263:
Irrational people just might take offense at that remark...

Reasons to not want to have to plug the headphone jack in over and over again.

1) Extra wear and tear. The 3.5 socket will eventually wear out and break.

2) Speed of entry / exit from the car. Less temptation to start driving and then plug it in. Don't discount human nature, Mr. Krumb.

3) The extra wire snaking around the dock, instead of being more tidy at the base with the power wire? Heck they could have made an integrated audio / power wire.

4) It would just look better. Seriously, some people like my wife, hate wires going all over the place.

I like the Nexus 1 car dock and will use it happily, but I wanted a better solution for audio. The dock's speakers are too quiet and poor quality for music. I'll just pair the audio with a different Bluetooth dongle and be happy.
[Nexus One Accessories] karnovaran:
We want a 3.5mm output. An input wouldn't be much help.

It's not a matter of laziness, it's a matter of expecting a product with the same functionality as its desktop counterpart. The desktop dock, which is intended to be used in an environment likely to have a bluetooth receiver, included the optional 3.5mm output. The car dock, which is intended to be used in an environment less likely to have a bluetooth receiver, did not include the optional 3.5mm output. That doesn't make any sense.
[Nexus One Accessories] soloxp:
Well mount your home dock in your car then. :D
[Nexus One Accessories] negreenfield:
Thanks for the info everyone in the thread. Knowing the details of how it all works I think my best solution is to just wait for either a better 3rd party solution, wait for some kind of fm transmitter solution, or eventually upgrade my stereo with bluetooth audio.

I know some don't understand why some of us don't like having to plug something in but it's just personal preference. I don't see enough extra convenience for the price to buy it so I'll have to wait just a bit longer for the right solution.
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
Sure it would. It would allow optimal placement of a microphone, allowing a lot more flexibility about where the dock could go while maintaining acceptable outgoing call quality. An input is a must for something like this.
[Nexus One Accessories] martin0285:
Just received my car dock. Very impressed with the quality!! I have a few complaints but hey don't we all? Basically I don't see why we have to manually connect to the dock again once taking it out. Like you set it in the dock, its connected, you pop it out and it's not connected. You have to go back and manually re-connect. Running CM.5.3 but I don't think its the ROM. Anyone have it actually stay connected once popping it out of dock??
[Nexus One Accessories] deprecate:
stay connected...to the dock? I'm not following.

You want your device to stay linked once it is removed? Seems to me this should be expected behaviour unless I am missing your point :)
[Nexus One Accessories] martin0285:
Well I guess I just thought it would connect when you put it in the dock and if you took it out to say put in your pocket it would still be connected BT "handsfree". But it seems you have to re-connect.....Not terrible.....

Anyone had this tho? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=660937
[Nexus One Accessories] flak0:
Anyone notice high temps while using the car dock and gps? mine went to 104 today and i have setcpu failsafe to kick in to 768mhz. im wondering if its the heat in florida or something else. it was 92 degrees faranheit today.
[Nexus One Accessories] liam.lah:
Position it so your aircon vent cools it down. Your phone will heat up if you are draining and charging, it will get very hot if it is in the sun.
[Nexus One Accessories] martin0285:
I used it today for about two hours and the thing was ON FIRE!!! I mean it was really hot, cooled off rather quickly tho and nothing seems to not work.....I really hope this was tested and not drastically KILLING our batteries......
[Nexus One Accessories] xombe:
Got mine today! Although I only played with it for a bit, it did not seem that the volume buttons were working. I will have to look into this a bit further.
[Nexus One Accessories] jimbobalu:
I have done this but my screen is dimming to where I can't see it. Is there a way to stop the dimming?
[Nexus One Accessories] jeh_:
the hole on the doc has a microphone in it.

I haven't tried a speaker phone call yet, but I've used the voice search and it seems to work fine, and my car is pretty noisy..

-j
[Nexus One Accessories] nak#57:
Does any one know where I could buy extra adhesive suction cup discs or what ever this things are called I would love to have an extra one in my wifes car.
[Nexus One Accessories] soloxp:
Go to Low’s or Home Depot and buy the red double sided tape
[Nexus One Accessories] nak#57:
I would but if its double sided no need to be suction any more stick on there and i would like to move it around my car to my wifes
[Nexus One Accessories] gunnner:
I'd try ebay. This one should be large enough (the one that comes with the Car Dock is less than 3" across, and this is 3.25".)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-Nuvi-Str...ltDomain_0?hash=item3357915fc1#ht_2273wt_1167
[Nexus One Accessories] Henchman:
Can you try that?

I'm interested in the in-car talk quality
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
I used the car mount with one of the discs that came with my GPS. Pretty much any flat plastic piece should work.
[Nexus One Accessories] jeh_:
I made a call today, the quality is fine..

the speaker is awful for playing music though.
[Nexus One Accessories] tariqgibran:
Car dock + N1 = very high temps

Same here. I used the car dock for a few hours yesterday with gps + listening to music and I was shocked at how hot the N1 was when I took it out of the dock. I immediately turned it off and it did cool down quickly. I did notice that the phone was charging the entire time. I have also noticed that the phone gets fairly warm when normally charging via charger at home but nothing like the combo above. This makes me very concerned to have the car dock charger plugged in while actually using the phone. That sort of internal temp can't be good for the phone.
[Nexus One Accessories] martin0285:
I hear ya man....would be nice to here from Google how well this was tested....I mean it batt temps are getting this high, other parts are surely getting even hotter (correct me if I'm wrong)...
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Why don't both of you guys call Google's customer service number and as them directly? If nothing else, at least they'll hear that customers are concerned and tell us if they know about the heat and it was tested ok...
[Nexus One Accessories] SPAS79:
Radio shack has what you need.
[Nexus One Accessories] gunnner:
I'd like to nth this - mine is pretty warm after a few mins in the dock. Haven't taken it on long trips, or in the hot sun yet.

Took a few speakerphone calls on it, and it worked pretty well. Biggest problem was that the "slide to answer" and phone interface come up as if the phone is in portrait, even if you have it in landscape. Also, it took a second to start routing the audio to internal bluetooth speaker once I answered, causing a couple of seconds of confusion when I wasn't sure if the other person was talking/could hear me yet. But once the call was going, quality was fine from my end and no complaints from the other end.
[Nexus One Accessories] julez456:
I got mine and for some reason the speaker on the dock isn't working. Not sure if its the dock itself or my phone or maybe even the ROM I am running. (Currently its enom's 1.8.1) but I've seen a couple people on Twitter including Cyanogen himself saying the same thing. The speaker is not working on the dock. And from my understanding, phone calls are supposed to go straight to speaker phone mode when sent or received and that is not happening either. I have to hit the speaker phone button once I answer a call to enable the speaker phone. (on my phone because the speaker on the dock dont work for phone calls either) :confused: :mad:

I will test it again with my step-daughter's unrooted Nexus One when I get a chance and update this post.
[Nexus One Accessories] gunnner:
Just so you can troubleshoot whether or not it's actually connecting to the dock: The BT icon should appear in the menubar when the phone is in the dock, and then two triangles should appear around the icon when it's properly connected and ready to route phone calls through the dock's speaker. At least, this is what happens on mine.
[Nexus One Accessories] julez456:
Ok..I will check that out in a few minutes. I assume I have to have BT enabled or should it auto enable once its docked?
[Nexus One Accessories] gunnner:
I'm 95% sure that BT turns on automatically if it's off when you dock it. If not, I can imagine that lots of people would be confused as to why their dock's not working (and I also seem to remember it happening).

Your best bet might be to just do a Nandroid backup of your current setup, flash a different rom (the latest Cyanogen works fine for me) and see if that works. Then you should be able to go right back to your Nandroid until you decide how you want to transfer all your apps, etc to a ROM that works with the dock.
[Nexus One Accessories] julez456:
OK..just tried it again with BT enabled and still nothing. :mad: It may be a bad dock because Cyanogen on his twitter also said his dock wasn't working and I seen a couple other people saying their's weren't working as well. I will wait until I can test it with my step-daughter's un-rooted N1 before I start flashing different ROM's just to make sure its not my dock. Will keep everyone updated.
[Nexus One Accessories] rvspinx:
You could just plug it directly into your phone. Mount the SD card and navigate that way, my car has a similiar function and that should work fine assuming your head unit has no problem navigating an SD card that has non music files.
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
The usb connector on the phone is covered by the dock when it's installed. That's a no-go for that.
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
I took some hi-res photos on the car dock installed in my car in case anyone wants to see it in action:

http://picasaweb.google.com/urprey/NexusOne#
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Nice pics man... setup looks fantastic! Care to post the wallpaper you're using there? :)
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
Thanks!

That's the stock N1 magic smoke live wallpaper - I adjusted the settings until I got the red background :-)
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Thanks man :)
[Nexus One Accessories] tariqgibran:
Car dock + N1 = very high temps

I just spoke with a women in customer service and they are unaware of any reports of overheating though she did say the dock just came out. She suggested to turn the brightness down on the screen and, if possible, unplug the power from the dock if charging is not required (after I mentioned that this seemed to help solve the issue).
[Nexus One Accessories] martin0285:
you can't un-plug the dock and still use it.....so that wouldn't be worth nothing....I've used it quite a bit....Gets hot but cools off quickly.....I'm sure it's been tested, i'm gonna not worry about it and if she burns up......Beg HTC to exchange it, LOL......
[Nexus One Accessories] tropmonky:
Great pics of the phone in the dock...

When I was using the phone on my lap and using Navigation the phone would get extremely hot... I think it's just working hard because if you don't have that sucker plugged into power when using navigation it eats up the battery. It's clearly working harder than when using your average app.

I'm pretty sure the components of this phone are good to keep working in extremely high temps.

"Turn the brightness of the screen down" My god, there would be no way to see it when mounted in the car on a bright sunny day then!!! LOL

I say just use the phone in the dock and if a bunch of phones start frying from being in the dock then we let Google take care of a faulty product... I'm still wondering why it took so dang long to bring the dock out in the first place.

It looks like HTC knows NOT to make people wait for accessories. It looks like there will be a few things ready for the EVO on launch day.
[Nexus One Accessories] flak0:
I did and they told me they have not gotten any complaints and that if anything it is the suns fault lol. "I am going to file a law suit against our Half-aged Star in our solar System" lol. In all honesty the phone will not charge correctly when GPS is on and the phone heats up. I noticed it charged to 100 then still had it in the dock and it went to 98 wtf? I do have a UV'ed kernel and im running stock speeds.
[Nexus One Accessories] gIMpSTa:
That is perfectly normal. Once your phone hits 100% it stops charging until it drops back down to ~90% to prevent over charging. It will do the same thing with desktop dock, ac charger, etc.
[Nexus One Accessories] logger:
Great thanks. I am intrigued as to how you modified the vent to take the disc. Am looking for inspiration to fit to my MK6 Golf. Could you PLS post a pic of your vent mod to show how you created a flat affix point on it. ..And is this mount method satisfactory or a bit wobbly perhaps?
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
I'll try and grab a pic, but it's almost completely covered by the disc. My Grand Prix has circular (ball-shaped) vents. I cut one in half which gave me a flat surface to mount it on.

BTW, I secured the modified vent so that it can't rotate or move. It's nice and secure.
[Nexus One Accessories] logger:
Ah I see thanks. Mounting it below the top of the dash as you have done, seemingly has the benefit of a shorter and less obtrusive cable run to the 12v socket.

With this siting, is there a possibility that the unit is a bit too close to you and it gets in your way. Just that windscreen and top of dash mounting (as intended) would inherently place the unit further afield.
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
In my car it works great just where I have it mounted. It's nice to have options though.
[Nexus One Accessories] Devastatin:
Mine gets pretty damn hot too.

Have you heard the static from using the headphone jack to your car's aux port?

To replicate,

Start your car

Plug in the dock into the car.

Plug in the Phone into the dock

Plug in the headphone jack into the cars aux port.

Listen to the static on the car speakers

The only way to remove the static from the line is to add a Ground Loop Interrupt (ground loop isolator) to the mix. but I would expect the charger to have one incorporated.
[Nexus One Accessories] dysfunction:
You have something on your phone that looks like www,stardock.com/products/ObjectDock

What is that called? How did you get that on your phone? Is it an app?
[Nexus One Accessories] martin0285:
Same problem. Friends of mine (@gIMpSTa) said it's just a matter of cigarette lighter sharing same ground with my Head-Unit.....No big deal....
[Nexus One Accessories] jdavet:
I have been quietly following this thread to see if anybody is having the problem I have with the dock... guess not, so I'll post. :)

I have an unrooted Nexus One (don't want to void the warranty just yet) and I have the dock on my dashboard.

I love the dock, but the only problem I'm having is that, having the dock on my dash instead of the windshield, there is no easy way to turn my phone from portrait to landscape and vice versa due to the locking mechanisms that won't allow you to spin the phone 360 degrees.

So instead of turning the phone 90 degrees counter-clockwise to get from portrait to landscape, I have to spin it 270 degrees clockwise.

I know if I had Cyanogen's rom on it, that wouldn't be a problem due to the 360 degree orientation... but that's beside the point.

I tried different positions on the dash to make it work, but couldn't figure it out. I hope I'm just missing something totally obvious (other than the facts of putting it on my windshield or rooting my phone). Thanks in advance for your help.
[Nexus One Accessories] krohnjw:
Same "problem" here. I like it on the dash as it's 5" closer than on the windshield and easier to reach comfortably if I need to while driving. However the rotation is a bit of a pain :-/
[Nexus One Accessories] bsinc1962:
If you hold the suction end of the dock and make the arm as flat as you can you can rotate the arm on the base like the hands of a clock.

Does that make any sense? Trying to describe the action isn't easy without pictures.
[Nexus One Accessories] Devastatin:
And how do you fix it?
[Nexus One Accessories] Over Achiever:
I had problems with my dock connecting when I insert my phone. Have you tried unplugging the power from the dock and reconnecting? That seemed to kick my dock into connecting via Bluetooth and the car home app launching.
[Nexus One Accessories] martin0285:
Change either your Cigarette lighter ground or your Stereo ground.....One of the other....Can't be on same ground....
[Nexus One Accessories] wesbalmer:
My Car Dock box is all messed up, I like the boxes so much that I show them off, but this one is all kinds of messed up
[Nexus One Accessories] logger:
Can you decrypt that into plain english so we can understand what you are talking about :)

"all kinds of messed up" :confused:

Has it been sick on itself? Is it not toilet trained?
[Nexus One Accessories] avoulgarellis:
he means the box it came in. you know the sexy google white box? i assume it got a little crushed in transport?
[Nexus One Accessories] deprecate:
I installed the dock yesterday (it finally arrived) and this was the first thing I noticed (what you are describing above). Well the second. The first was the lack of access to the volume buttons.

I had to enable 360 degrees orientation to offset the need to fully spin the damn phone to achieve landscape mode.

I do wish the dock had a 3.5mm out but it's not a huge deal to have a wire running to the 3.5 jack on the top of the phone.
[Nexus One Accessories] ralexand:
I received my Car Dock yesterday and haven't had any software problems yet. Running Enomther 1.8.1 with no issues.

My biggest gripe is that the volume rocker isn't native to the Android software (that's me trying to sound smart). What I mean is that it's got its own volume settings, so now I have ringer volume, media volume, navigation volume, and this car dock volume, all exclusive to each other. So, if my audio is low, I have to remov ethe phone from the dock, turn up the volume on the phone, place back in the dock and adjust the volume from there.

Again, that's the only gripe I have, so far. I love that they give the plastic plate to allow you to mount it to any surface on the car; now I have the phone within finger's reach at all times -- much better than having to lean in and try to navigate the phone from the windshield like on my prior car mount.
[Nexus One Accessories] dahui9:
Hey everyone if we could post pictures of how your mounting to your dash and which car you drive including year that would be awesome.

For instance I drive a 2002 VW GTI and my dash is completely curved making it hard to mount the dash mount. does anyone else have a GTI or Golf or even a Jetta show me where you mounted yours?

I'm trying to figure out a spot next to my radio or around it that doesn't require a metal bracket.

Those are the best pictures I could find at work sorry for the big one. stupid web filtering.

-Charlie
[Nexus One Accessories] Slimgym20:
Download AudioManager...It has an icon you can put in the slide down menu and you can access all your audio from that to adjust it - I found it more convenient anyways.
[Nexus One Accessories] deprecate:
I can chime in here as I mounted in my VW yesterday :)

The entire dash is rounded making it not ideal. I actually went to the top flat spot of the dash (where there is the ledge/lip above the vents) for where to mount. I thought it would get in the way but so far so good. The big downer is just how much of the power cable drapes over everything, but with some cable routing that isn't a huge deal. Just be sure to keep it clear of the stick and you won't accidentally yank on it while shifting :)
[Nexus One Accessories] infinityhombre:
I pretty much hardwired my dock to my '07 Escape. I added a new 12v socket under my dash wired to the switched 12v that my head unit runs on. I did it this way because I'm pretty sure the plug for the dock steps the 12v to 5v and I didn't want to fry anything. The new socket, taps, and wire set me back about $12 at O'Reilly's Auto. Will be happy to provide more pics or help where I can if you are interested in this project.