yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch2 ROM Development] suncrush:
CHS CLEAN ROM ,i think a lot of users are eager to that!;)
[Touch2 ROM Development] mirost1:
I suggest Mods to do a Wish/Request ROM thread so that way we will avoid so many new threads for ROMs.
[Touch2 ROM Development] yellowfever:
CHS = Chinese Simplified, right?

I am not sure there are so many chefs here at XDA-Developers that are interested in chinese ROMs, it seems to me this here is more of a english + western languages community.

There seem to be some pretty active chinese language forums similar to this one here, though.

My Chinese unfortunately still totally sucks (working on that!), but as far as I can tell it seems to me that some of these places might be interesting to you:

http://bbs.htcppc.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=127

http://www.xda-china.net/forum-165-1.html

http://www.playpda.net/forum-169-1.html

http://bbs.thmz.com/thread-htm-fid-286.html

I wish I could understand even 10% of what those guys are posting, since I am looking how to get traditional Chinese input (Zhuyin / bopomofo) to a english language ROM...
[Touch2 ROM Development] suncrush:
many thx

of course i know the forums you mentioned above, but there's little help. i think you are not a native chinese. you want to get traditional Chinese input to a english language ROM?what‘s "Zhuyin / bopomofo"? a kind of input software or methord.maybe i can help you with chinses input.just contact me.QQ?MSN?you can lay below.

Actually, i am looking for a good wwe ROM too, although not as good as CHS rom.
[Touch2 ROM Development] suncrush:
注音输入法

:d注音输入法是一种以注音符号来输入汉字的中文输入法。因为台湾小学基础教育就由注音符号教起，所以此输入法可被称为台湾电脑使用者最为熟悉的中文输入法，只要能读就能输入。
[Touch2 ROM Development] yellowfever:
Oh, I thought in those forums people would be doing pretty much the same as here in XDA, just in chinese. Well, you can actually read what's in there, so probably you are right ^_^ Sorry, then I don't know how to help further. Maybe once I get the hang of cooking myself, there could be some way I can help. Is the stock rom in CHS available for download? If so, do you have a link?

Yes, I also think I am not native chinese. I am afraid I am more of a Waiguoren / Laowei ;) For the input method that I'm interested in I had started this thread here, there also is a picture:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=659970

Basically, it is similar to the hanyu pinyin that you probably learned in school (assuming you are native Chinese), only it is not using latin letters, but another set of very simple characters, one for each sound. Today it's used still in Hongkong and Taiwan, where the traditional Chinese characters, and not the simplified ones, are common.
[Touch2 ROM Development] suncrush:
i do have a chs rom,which contains many bugs,and are not clean enough,i can provide if you are after. and can you cook a new chs rom with this poor one ,and anyting thing else needed will be provided.
[Touch2 ROM Development] yellowfever:
Is that the standard HTC ROM?
[Touch2 ROM Development] suncrush:
not standard rom, i check it with tools ,i can't find all part of the rom.
[Touch2 ROM Development] yellowfever:
Can you find a link to the original(!) HTC Windows 6.5 ROM in your language (CHS)? That should be the starting point I guess. I didn't really search for CHS ROMs, yet, but I found a CHT ROM from Hong Kong. SO I am sure somewhere in the Chinese Forums there should be the link to a CHS ROM.

This ROM (I guess) you would then load in a Kitchen like osKitchen, then remove all stuff you don't want, rebuild, and then you have a clean CHS ROM.
[Touch2 ROM Development] mydiao:
原来外国人也关注我们的论坛啊 呵呵 我在xda的中文论坛发了一些贴子 我看这里的人也好少哦
[Touch2 ROM Development] yellowfever:
Google Translate says:

Can you please also include English in your messages? Thanks!

Well, one Zhongguoren asked here for help with a simplified chinese light ROM, so of course we Weiguoren try to help :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] nniicckkss:
I don't think I will be very popular, but I don't like having some icons looking nice and others that don't look so good...

Everyone knows where the originals come from and I would like to claim no credit for this at all.

My blank icon template is around 95% as accurate as the original, and with an icon inserted behind it in Photoshop, I'm sure you will not tell the difference once on your phone (I can't).

Your finished icon will only be as good as the image/icon beneath the template, and the template must be the top layer. Save as highest resolution .png files and stick them on your phone.

My examples are in the zip file, along with the PS Template.

I WILL NOT BE DOING REQUESTS - I DON'T HAVE TIME!! (sorry)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Nashisu:
Hey buddy, thank you so much for this! :D I feel exactly the same - I hate having a few apps & games with irregular icons contrary to the overall theme. This contribution is perfect will allow me add my own personal icons :D Much due respect & credit to DINIK, whom I hope doesn't mind? :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] nniicckkss:
If anyone else has used my blank icon template and has produced any icons they would like to share with everyone, then feel free to post them on here.

I have done a couple more... they all look good on the phone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rsmurdoch:
IF you get time is there any chance of posting steps to putting image behind template?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] nniicckkss:
Hi,

You need to firstly have your icon that you want to put behind the template. It should have a transparent background, ideally in a good resolution PNG format. (create one in Photoshop if you can't find one)

Then in Photoshop, open the button template I have attached in the zip files above.

From the 'File' menu in Photoshop, select 'Place...'.

Locate your icon graphic, and it will be placed on the template.

From here, you can play around with shadows and effects to suit your taste. If you want to resize it, hold the 'Alt' key while dragging from a corner to maintain ratio.

Make sure the 'placed' graphic is the bottom layer in the list on the right, you can click and drag the layers to re-order them. So button blank on the top, graphic on the bottom.

When you are happy with the icon, go back to the 'File' menu and select 'Save for web', and name and save as highest resolution PNG with the transparency selected. It'll preview before you save it.

Simply save the new icon to your phone and set it as you would any other icon on your phone.

Job done.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] iBlade67:
Thank you very much for the icons and for the psd file, appreciate it very much.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] barbapappa_86:
I know that you dont take requests, but i would kill for an icon to ameba :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dinik:
I hope you like my icons and my other works...because thanks to you and some other people here...i dont feel like im gonna share more works of me...your doing brings artist like me to go away! :mad:

Be proud of yourself! And all other can thank him.

Im gonna take all my works down...till...i dont know...till people like him...learn to respect creator and there wishes...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Popeyes_Rat:
Uh oh! _
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dub027:
@ nniicckkss, I share your point of view about creators not or partly sharing, and I believe that if you want to share anything why not share components so other creators can supplement what original creators started to share. It's quit frustrating to have a half-ass theme on your phone.

However, Dinik always shares and provides almost everything you ask for, all you need to do is show respect to the original author, look at it like copyright;) The way you handle this is quit disrespectful and far from decent. Why don't you just respect Dinik and ask him to help or provide? (I assume that didn't happen, if I mistake than sorry and forget my reply).

@ Dinik, thanks for all your material, I specially love the Anastasia series. You can also think of it as a great compliment, only great artists are worth copying;) It would be a shame if you'd take offence to this and withdrew your material due to this lack of moral.

I think both of you should handle this in a mature fashion, Nniicckkss, next time ask and pay respect and Dinik look at this as a compliment and just continue providing us with your beautiful artwork.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] k8sh:
______

Thanks nniicckkss for sharing your files. I also have Diniks icons and it bothers me to have some regular icons mixed in with the others. I am not good at photoshop at all but I managed to figure out basic layering and I made my own icons (albeit nothing compared to Dinik's). So thanks for sharing the blank layer as that is one I cannot do at all.

I don't see what the big deal is here. nniicckkss said he was not taking credit for anything and we (those who have anastasia icons) know that it is all original Dinik. So Dinik, man, get a hold of yourself! You are fighting with almost everyone in this forum (like DJC)! I love your work but man, it seems like you cannot work with others or take too many things seriously!

I don't think you don't see the point of nniicckkss post. Do you really want everyone to bombard you with requests for icons for everything? Unless you provide us with all possible icons that we will install in our phones then we will gladly erase all copycat or self-made icons as your icons are definitely high quality BUT IN THE END, THEY ARE JUST THAT...ONLY ICONS. You could move on to bigger and better things like skinning the hell out of the hd2 interface and make a full on anastasia theme which everyone loves!

That said, DInik, thank you for your icons, You should be flattered that everyone wants to copy you. ANyway, I hope you change your mind after you have cooled off. This is the most drama I have seen in this forum for icons.

PEACE!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] twallden:
Thanks for the icons, looks great to have a complete Games folder. CBA about whos is who, its not like he copied your icons, he just made the missing ones, right?

If i had any idea how to use Photoshop i would have done this long ago. Sucks to not being able to get your requests done. And yes, i know you have alot to do, so agian, thanks for helping Dinik out with the requests ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dinik:
@nniicckkss and others

you might think that im over reacting....or that my distinction is to hard...but...i was hard working on all my projects...not only for me...for all you here...and many of you using something from me...most of the roms using my icons or sliders. only my 1st hd2 iconset was downloaded over 10.000dls...and by the way i was working on new projects and planing to do much more for all you here!

i think im doing much for all of you here...so why the hell you dont accept my wishes?! if i post some rules...and the rules are fair enough...why you dont follow them...why you breaking them...it was not for funn to post the rules.

Many romcookers asking me to use something from me...and i never ever said no to anyone...because they asking me and follow some simple and fair rules.

do you think i have no rights as an artists? do you really think if i do something...im ok with that if somebody do with my work whatever he wants? if it where so...i would write it down...by telling that my works a free stokes.

@nniicckkss...did you asked me if im all right with that...did you asked me...hey dinik...could i post a template for your icons...no you dont...because you dont respect other creators wishes...even now...you didnt removed your zp files...i have spent countless hoers...to make many people happy...this is not my work...and i dont get rich from that...the only think what i want...is to show me respect...and follow some simple rules of me.

but as you and some others thinks...that i wonting to much...i cant go on with that.

@nniicckkss Remove your riped files

@admins start response on my messages...and give your statement to this...if its ok for xda...then im in the wrong forum...and go away for ever...because i as artist...want to have some simple rights!

guys...i rely like this community...but dont forget...you cant always only take and dont give anything back...i worked hard...to try giving you all something great...and i was asking nothing much...think about it
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] foney:
Congratulations for not asking Dinik in the first place and not being patient enough to let him do his own work in his own time. One icon not skinned as the rest doesnt mean "he's busy, so ill make a DIY icon so anyone can knock off his style"

All you had to do was ask, and respect his wishes, but now you have ruined it for everyone. To all those who think hes over reacting, well you have obviously never had any personal work stolen and or used / modified for someone elses benefit.

If you did actually mean the apology, then you would take down this thread and then think about why hes pissed so much.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dinik:
thx mate..i just gave up my hopes...to find someone who understands me...and dont think that im crazy :p

i just dont understand where the admins are...there are here to solve things like that...to push the community the right way...but no...nothing happens...as i said earlier...im writing them since more then a week...without any response
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] stained-steel:
WTF; really?

I call BS on diniks (especially in light of the earlier fracus with DJC)! Yes sir, this is childish behaviour! I almost always stray away from these kind of altercations on XDA, but for this, I want my opinion heard...

@Dinik: Your icon set and theme is superb (THE best IMO, and MOSTLY more complete than others), but maybe so much that it's gone to your head... This isn't a contest!

I also am forced to believe that nniicckkss ALSO LOVES your Anastasia theming and icons, as he's gone to the lengths to do his best to recreate your work to finish theming his phone in your style, am I wrong here?

You're a busy man, self-exclaimed. I have many icons that you have not done yet; and let's be honest, if I'm the only one requesting icon 'A' or icon 'B', are you really going to get around to it, just for ME? I want a FULL theme, not something half-arsed!

I was already fiddling around with Photoshop myself when I came across nniicckkss post; saved me some time, I tell you (and if I wasn't so busy outside of my ORD, I prolly woulda' posted a template too!)! All he did was add some eye-candy to my phone, which was already themed in Anastasia...

Let's get to the heart of the matter: Did nniicckkss 'steal' from you? NO!: He emphatically proclaimed on his first post that it was only about 95% of what you've done. He also stated the (what I knew to be the case at the time, but is only now coming to light) obvious fact that you wouldn't like what he had done... Claiming no credit for your original work (I mean, quite obviously it was you he was referring to), he tried to help out a few others, like me, to have a full icon set.

Let's get to the 'legal' heart of it, shall we:

"02. You are free to modify my works, but only for private use. (No Share or Posting here or on other Sites)"

"03. You are not allowed to modify my works and post it here or on other sites. (Without my Permission)"

What is meant by "modify"? Legally, it means taking an ORIGINAL, which you have never posted, and tweaking it. What nniicckkss has done is essentially this: a complete reworking from scratch, based on the same software you also (I assume) use! What that means is, he CREATED it himself!!! You can 'thank' Photoshop for that if you're so inclined...

If I sketch out the Mona Lisa in a notepad, scan it, and post it to the webz as a desktop background: Have I stolen from DaVinci??? Think not... Have I maybe brightened someone's day? Doubtful on that account (I'm a horrible sketch-artist), but you never know... Maybe somewhere in the world there's a desktop background (other than mine???) that has a lousy Mona Lisa sketch!

Lastly: it's not as if he was competing with you at all (not a contest, remember?); he stated 'no requests' and NEVER asked for donations ($$$), right off the bat!

I LOVE XDA, and I hope the admin's see 'right' in this one...

@nniicckkss: Chin up, brah! Regardless, I have my(your) template saved, and if dinik feels he should remove his work from online, then I'll use yours solely! :)

Okay, /rant ...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dhanu1978shka14:
Completely Agreed !!!

Need I say more ??? I completely agree with you ... I myself have no skills in photoshop or any other Winmo/Manila skinning (I am in to complete different field) ..however I want my phone to have the best look possible ...

AFAIK so many people requested a blank template from Dinik, to cover up the missing icons till he is done with his busy schedule but never fulfilled... I do understand the way Dinik feels but same time I want to have a complete theme in my mobile.

@nniicckkss, because of you I manage to get some of my uncommon icons done. Thanks a lot mate ...

@Dinik, chill out man..everybody respect you as an artist & believe me I do understand your feelings .. However everybody expect to have a complete theme rather than a half baked one including all the uncommon icons, which I think impossible to cater ... Anyway all the best with your work mate ... but keep in mind if you do not share or if nobody uses your work, the value of your countless hours and your value as an artist will be waisted & gone forever..

All the best mates ....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] stained-steel:
YES, we are in COMPLETE agreement! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] stained-steel:
BTW...

The thread is titled (aptly): "DIY ICONS"...

D.o I.t Y.ourself!!!!!

Having grown up 'punk', I highly appreciate the ethos...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] nniicckkss:
I had around 18 icons not skinned (most I have posted, I have also done good HD Wall & Resco Snake icons too to complete my personal set, but don't feel I should post it now). It was rather more than "One icon not skinned as the rest", and I haven't knocked off the style, I haven't tried to hide the fact it is a copy of a well known icon.

I sent my requests in like a lot of other people, I do have a request amongst that multi page thread of requests, but how long should I wait? Rather than pester to 'do my icons please', I just done my own. On doing such a good template for myself to use, I thought I would share it for others to complete their set. But apparently sharing things is bad all of a sudden.

Hmm, "stolen and used / modified for someone elses benefit", other than having finally completed the icon set on my phone, how am I benefiting from this? Am I doing requests - no, am I requesting a donation "for a beer" - no...

And where do you think those icons beneath the template actually come from, do you think he actually made those from scratch? A lot of those icons come from other icon packs which can be downloaded from XDA. And what about the branded icons - do you honestly believe that Mr. Dinik has a filing cabinet of written approvals from software companies so he can use their icons?

(Sorry Dinik, you don't have this do you?)

Really, this is the first request to remove my post I have encountered (other than Dinik) - is this really what I have to do? :confused:

Anyway, for the sake of everyone who likes Dinik's work, I think the best thing I can do is to remove the attached files from my thread.

@Dinik, naming and shaming me didn't work, the download hits for my template went right up after you done that and I seemed (surprisingly) to get more votes of support from people for doing this - I really thought I would get abuse from people (I think I have maybe been abused, just a little bit, once or twice on your threads...?).

Please reactivate your threads for the sake of everyone who likes your work.

One last request from me to you though, Dinik - please could you remove your silly big bold posts with my name on it from your threads? It just points people this way....

Cheers, Nick.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] stained-steel:
+1

No, +1000!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] redd214:
nniicckkss, imo you did nothing wrong bro. dinik is really behaving like a spoiled child and obviously needs some attention. dont worry about it man and thanks for making the template for everyone!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] sniper-wolf:
I've just spotted that this has developed into an issue, I spotted the OP last week and had a feeling it would though. ;)

To be honest there isn't a great deal I can add to to the very eloquent and restrained replies from nniicckkss and stained-steel.

All I would say is that IMO dinik is in danger of going from one of the most respected artist/designers on here to a bit of a joke in the space of a few days. Your work is some of the most attractive on here and used more than virtually anyone elses, you should take pride in that and in the fact that of course others are going to want to imitate or modify your work. There is a saying/cliche in the UK (not sure how well it translates to other tongues)....................Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Niicckkss hasn't set out to take credit for your work and I'd imagine the only reason he didn't mention you in the OP is your slightly precious attitude in your original thread. Nobody is going to look at these icons and think "Niicckkss" anyone who is on here knows that slick rounded glass icons and themes are either yours or are inspired by you, take pride in that and accept that others without your skills are going to want to "borrow" your work.

As I started out by saying, at the minute you are currently one of the most respected designers on here and your work is admired by many. If I were in your shoes I'd want to continue with that whether on precisely my terms or otherwise. Or would you rather continue down the route you are going and in the future anyone throwing a bit of a hissy-fit on here to be known as "doing a Dinik".
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dinik:
i get your point and others...but why you dont get my?!

is it so hard to respect and follow some wishes from an artist? does an artist have no rights here? when you ask someone for a cigarette...and he dont give it to you...do you take it anyway?

copying modifying or whatever....is not ok...if an artist tels in his thread that its not ok for him...thats just wrong i anyway.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] wacky.banana:
Mod Input

We are aware of this thread as it has been reported.

We are in touch with all involved to work out an amicable solution.

In the meantime could we hold off on the provocative comments and off topic posts please.

Thanks

WB
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MalekoUK:
I really don't blame nniicckkss for posting the template, as having a incomplete theme is horrible when you compare the other icons. I use the HD theme, and have created many icons myself to match it, even did post some in the HD2 theme thread, but I did stop after Dinik posted his rules.

I do see and agree with the points made here, I even see and agree with Diniks post about respecting his rules - even if I don't agree with them as I do feel people should be able to complete all the icons on their phones to make the theme worthy of its development, other wise it looks incomplete.

There are LOADS of apps out there, and as it has been stated, some that even only 1 user might use, will he see that icon made?

As for the HD2 theme, as all development has gone into the Anastasia one, the HD2 one hasn't seen an updates in a while, with lots of people still requesting and posting other icons.

What would be wrong in using peoples own developed icons for your theme and including them in your package? Easing the work load for yourself, and then the community would also be contributing to YOUR work and package to make it even more complete etc.

I can see and agree with both 'arguments'.