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[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
yea, works after a reboot. I would just like everyones input to see if maybe its the ROM that makes a difference. I'm on day 3 right now, lets keep updating!
[Hero CDMA General] redram38:
I have had always enable mobile off for as long as I can remember and it has zero effect on text messages and how soon they get here. I just read about turning off wireless networks and using GPS for location and since I have done this my battery life has doubled. Call it whatever you want to, my phone has been off the charger for about 20 minutes and still shows 100%, before I did this the same situation would have me down to about 95% or worse. Call it a Fix or a work around, if it works and it has no negative effect for those that use it then don't come in here and bash the OP for trying to help. If it ain't for you just don't use it, but stop all the bashing.
[Hero CDMA General] redram38:
Omit this reply
[Hero CDMA General] willy900wonka:
I set it to the test mode (un check enable always on ...) .

Rebooted . Put it to sleep. It woke upon reception of a text msg.

So on my wierd phone I need to reboot to enable it to disable always on and get wake up interrupts. There is one other change, I have an alarm set for 3 mintues before the start of "24". :cool:

SO I'll let you know in about an hour if the alarm affects it.
[Hero CDMA General] CarbonKang:
I'm on OP's side on this one.. I'm not sure how much it will save battery, but I am getting texts messages when the phone is in sleep mode. I dont know why some of yours are not.. But it really does work. As for email not coming instantly I cant do that so i am forced to not be able to do this, but a great find indeed. Now if we can just get a REAL fix...
[Hero CDMA General] scriz:
Emails are definitely not coming in..I sent a test email to myself and its been roughly 5 minutes and no notification.

Edit: Strike this..had it on vibrate :O came in fine.
[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
Thanks guys, I figure we all have to work together to get the fix and if we don't work together we will never figure it out. Not like we can sit around and wait for HTC or Sprint to help. On a side note, im just repeating work that someone else has done, so all the props go to them. Along with a lot of props to Flipz for without him im sure we all would of returned this phone a long time ago.
[Hero CDMA General] mrinehart93:
What would be better... GPS on or Wireless Networks if I'm in my house which seems to have a negative impact on ANY wireless signals (wifi signals are weakened, phone signal is severely weakened, etc.).
[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
thats a tough one, id say still GPS
[Hero CDMA General] bng06:
it sure does fix the battery

Scirio, it sure does work 100% on my Hero gen 2 (w/Google). I read this post yesterday and did what bigup said low and behold! Some 17 hours later without charge my battery is 70% full... normally I would have had only 25% left so this does seem that this setting change fixes battery life big time! Here are my results:

-Hero gen 2

-RegawMOD 2.1 Rom

-17 hours running settings change and only 20-30% drain.

-Text message were sent and received instantly (under 5 sec).

-Calls are received instantly from Google Voice.

-Text from Google Voice almost instant.

-email updates from Gmail & pop still being updated fine.

-my signal was at -98dBm with one bar the entire time I tested this fix, phone was also locked and asleep while waiting for incoming alerts, calls and text which all worked fine.
[Hero CDMA General] METHOD1911:
question

where exactly is this setting at i want to try this out
[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
The exact settings are at MENU/SETTINGS/WIRELESS & NETWORKS/MOBILE NETWORKS\AND UNCHECK ENABLE ALWAYS-ON MOBILE along with changing your location settings to just GPS, not use wireless network
[Hero CDMA General] bbv203:
Just tried this, Gmail does come in right away for me, haven't had a chance to get a text yet though. But I figure if Gmail is instant, a text would be aswell. Hero w/google Fresh 2.0d

EDIT: After a reboot and letting it sleep for a few minutes, I do not receive Gmail until I wake the phone up. Turning back on.....
[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
As an update, you do not have to manually update everything with this "fix", the only downfall is mail will get pushed only when you start using the phone. IF IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW YOUR EMAIL THE SECOND IT IS SENT, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT USING IT. On the other hand if you use your phone a lot throughout the day like me, you will still get your email very quickly. All your widgets will update the second you come out of sleep, so don't worry about that.
[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
But I am getting an extra day out of my battery, in most days before this my battery would die while i'm out at night, so having a small delay on my e-mail is not as bad as the phone dying while i'm out at night
[Hero CDMA General] ooMikeoo:
I work in a hospital and in my office I get absolutely no signal but as I walk throughout the hospital my signal pops in and out. i don't turn my wireless connection off because i don't want to have to turn it on every time i leave my office. But because it is searching for a signal whenever i am in my office the battery drains like crazy! by the time i leave at the end of my work day I am getting warnings that the battery is about to die.

-I am making this change now and i will report back to you at the end of the day tomorrow to let you know if it worked for me or not. It would be great to not have to charge my phone 2-3 times a day.
[Hero CDMA General] KBizzle:
Gonna test this today. I dont get any important emails in my gmail so the email delay wont bother me. I hope I get the results that others are getting. Thanks OP.
[Hero CDMA General] doojer:
You clearly haven't been married very long! :p
[Hero CDMA General] gibbygano:
It kind of ruins the point of the Android integration with Google services. I love smartphones in general because I get a flurry of emails all day and my inbox is usually way overfilled. I usually have 8 or so in the morning alone when I wake up. I don't usually goof with my phone during the day since I'm in class, so checking it after I've been there for a few hours with background data syncing off would really make it useless to me.
[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
but, like I said, text don't matter. they come right away. I do love the joke!
[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
so like you said, when you are in class, you don't need your phone constantly checking for email. you get out of class, check your phone and it will automatically check for new messages. its not that big of a deal. on a side note, when someone shows me an email that is need the second you are not at your computer, ill give you 50 bucks!
[Hero CDMA General] danknee:
LMAO!

Thanks for this post.
[Hero CDMA General] kingakuma:
With Wireless Connection turned off my battery did Last longer but at the cost of Google maps, not being able to locate me till i turned it back on.

Which isn't a big deal when you can manually turn it on every time you actually need to use maps
[Hero CDMA General] Wufei:
Check out the JuiceDefender app: http://androidandme.com/2010/04/applications/juicedefender-save-power-and-extend-battery-life/

Turns data off but back on every 15 min (which is much shorter than most of the sync intervals we set anyway). Made my battery life go from 12 to 20+ hours!
[Hero CDMA General] bigupurself7:
Juice Defender looks amazing, thank you!
[Hero CDMA General] Fyahstarter:
Hey, It's worth trying for me. I have no super important mail coming to me that can't wait for an extra few seconds. I'll take a look see and report back.
[Hero CDMA General] ramiss:
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[Hero CDMA General] sheagk:
Are you on 1.6? I was under the impression that JuiceDefender wasn't working on 2.1 CDMA, but I'd love to have someone contradict me.
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
+1

Dev actually specifies

But so far the tweaks seem to be pretty awesome :)
[Hero CDMA General] DirtyShroomz:
Everything works beautifully battery life increased dramatically
[Hero CDMA General] cmattern80:
i wanna say i get emails immediately gmail and pop.Texts come to.This is a very good post and i go with fix.Reason being my phone wouldn't last the 12 hours i'm at work.To get it to last all day definately a FIX to me.I appreciate this being new to android in general.I was a diehard iphone user since day one.I've been pretty unhappy lately with battery life.Tried many roms, changing radios,and also changing from gsm auto to cdma auto. excellent FIX
[Hero CDMA General] aiwetir:
just to clear something up, sms do not come over the 2g/3g network. so these settings should not affect your texts.

if you really want to turn off this setting but want mail notifications, you can always forward a copy of your email to your phone's email address which will come in over the voice network like an sms.

juice defender sounds interesting, however it is a process that also must run in the background...
[Hero CDMA General] notasimpleway:
JuiceDefender does not work on CDMA phones. The end. :D
[Hero CDMA General] subcypher:
Yeah, I tried this out for a while. Don't use this if you use gTalk. It disconnects every time you lock the screen or leave the program. That won't work for me.
[Hero CDMA General] lineman78:
Not sure if this is a fix or a workaround. The way that Google specified that always on might hurt your battery on some networks(which I take to mean CDMA) I would call it a fix that this should be a default as other than someone's mention of gTalk not working correctly I see no downside. I have yet to do thorough testing though. As far as the location bug goes, I might consider it a bug that something could use that much to try and get a fix that is supposed to be granular in the first place. I know my case may be rare in that I work somewhere where I don't get either wireless or GPS signal, but these settings really made a difference. Yesterday my phone was hitting 43C and using more energy than the usb it was plugged in to could provide, today 30.4C and 12% in 2h 20min, which my phone died in the same amount of time yesterday. I even had setCPU installed and configured for profiles, which had turned the clock down to 245MHz in trying to save battery before it died, but did not help.
[Hero CDMA General] rdisanza:
Not a fix but an inexpensive improvement, buy a larger capacity battery like the Mugan 1800. I have increased by battery life by 40% or better depending on phone usage. This battery has been discussed at length in the past and I am sure many of us are using it by now. There is also a 2000 version from another manufacturer. I like my Mugan.
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
Mugen likes their money :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] rdisanza:
$35.00USD & Free Ship wasn't a bad deal.

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[HD2 General] 00Nuclear00:
Is there any way to get buttons overlayed on old applications?

Today i installed tony hawks pro skater 2 on my hd2 and it works fine but i cannot cannot control the char.

The game uses only 4 overlayed buttons:

I canged filp and grind to move left and right but now i need 2 more buttons, is there any fix for this? which file must be edited?

(i use the hw accelerated version)
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
someone created a virtual d-pad that puts a d-pad overlay on the screen. I'll try to find the thread.
[HD2 General] noname81:
Hi, you could use LMTs multitouch gamepad for that. It can be used as an overlay in any app and has direction arrows + 8 customizable buttons. See screenshot (used with FPSEce):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5936174&postcount=266

The dev thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=629263
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
Here, I found the thread. I think this might work well.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=658673

Let me know how it works if you try it.
[HD2 General] 00Nuclear00:
thx for your replys, i tried both apps but the vdpad dont work with tony hawk because it get overlayed by the game. But i think it is a very useful tool.

Are there any other suggestions?
[Desire General] dr_s:
Today was my first day at work since i got my Desire on Sat. So it was the day without regular charging.

Firstly, reception was poor as compared to what i was getting with Touch Pro 2. Same network (Orange), same place, less signal bars and less 3G coverage.

Secondly, unplugged phone 7 o'clock this morning, 100% charged. All day only had time for couple of calls (10-15mins). Used internet (3G when available) for max 20-30mins. Tried couple of games for 15-20 mins and at 7 o'clock at night, the battery was 15%. This is not a heavy use by my standards. Used to do a lot more on Touch Pro2 and battery used to last 2-3days. (I know the capaciy difference btw Desire and TP2 battery but still, Desire should last atleat > 24hours)

Not sure if all these issues are related to Orange ROM/Radio. Will we (on Orange) get OTA firmware update like T-mobile, which has apparently improved their battery life? If not then ...... :-(. Not satisfied with the battery life. Shame it is such a good phone but battery life and signal strength is putting me off.

Whats the fun if you have a "superphone" in your pocket but cannot use it to its full potential due to these two isuues. :(
[Desire General] Fon22:
Mine was the same,

But after a weeks worth of usage, its now reasonable, IE 18 hours between charges,

Fon22
[Desire General] danielletch:
I totally agree, there are other posts telling us to turn off or reduce all sorts of settings, its ridiculous that you would have to run any phone at less than its full potential just to compensate for a poor battery.

Sure you could buy a second battery but if that was necessary then they should put two in the box :p
[Desire General] lukeyboymac:
If you leave gps on then you are asking for trouble, a lesser extent wifi. Having a toggle on off isn't such a hardship though. Poor signal hammers the battery too.

I easily last the working day (7-7) with an hour of music and 2 hours surfing and a smattering of calls and texts.
[Desire General] OnlinePredator:
Come on guys, if you have a laptop, and you turn on bluetooth, wi-fi, play some games etc, it WILL run the battery down faster. It's just common sense. Just because this phone does heaps of things, dosn't mean it will last forever. As phones get more features, they are getting worse battery life - in general. And android is a data centric device, I would get used to it, or simply turn off some synching features if you need to get through more than half a day. Or perhaps get a spare battery etc.

Just out of curiosity did you have your previous phone to constantly sync throughout the day for time, email, google account, marketplace updates, location, weather using gps, 3g, hsdpa, accelerometer etc? Remember some of these connect are activated every 5 mins or so. Will make it worse if you have poor reception. COMMON SENSE PPL!
[Desire General] choccy31:
My issue is that even after the T-Mobile update, last night I charged phone on this time and it would only get to 98% again. Then drop down quickly.

If I charge it off, It seems to be ok (although I will test this again.)

Frustrating.
[Desire General] patp:
My battery life is woeful (TMo uk, updated firmware). I've been trying to figure it out using Juice Plotter to record power usage. Basically, whatever I'm doing, if it's on the battery falls off a cliff - I'd say 10% per 30m and my first impression is that it makes little difference whether networking is enabled or not. This makes little sense to me, I've always found in the past that 3G is just about the most power intensive activity on the smartphone, but it's consistent with some experiences I had flashing roms on my Blackstone - some of them would just run the battery down, others would go for ages. One hypothesis is that when a phone is in that kind of "sick" power state, the drain is not really related to which facilities you're using, but something deeper - perhaps the CPU is running full throttle all the time, or something else. I have no idea what's going on right now but I know I have an unusable phone which lasts half the time my Blackstone did with heavier use. I think many others have the same problem and I wonder if there's a bad batch. Bad news if so as we'd have trouble proving it and getting exchanges.

My next step I think will be to hard reset and run it in a very basic mode for a while, maybe some of the apps are causing it.
[Desire General] snapilica2003:
I'm also finding out that battery life improves dramatically after the 5th 6th charge. When I first got my Desire I could barely make it through the day, after properly charging and letting it discharge all the way to 10-15% now I get 18-20h of battery life with wi-fi on non stop (but with the setting to to turn itself off after 15mins of inactivity).

I was very worried about this when I first got the phone, but now it's starting to be better and better at battery life. I know my demands from a smartphone when I buy it and if a phone get's me through the day I'm OK with that, plus I have chargers at home, in my car, at work, so it's not a problem :)
[Desire General] meson1:
I've got one of the very first batch of T-mobile Desires that were shipped on 26th March. It has been updated with the T-mobile 1.15.110.11 patch.

I last charged it on Saturday afternoon. I've only had to start charging it again this morning Tuesday. I've been making a few calls, probably 10-15 minutes total. A few texts. Browsing with G and 3G, maybe a few of hours worth in total. Little bit of Bluetoothing, though that's only a couple of minutes worth. I've had it down the pub a few hours where the T-mobile signal isn't brilliant, so it will have been doing a little "shouting" to find and communicate with the nearest T-mobile mast.

But that means it's lasted a good 66 hours admittedly with fairly moderate use. GPS, Wifi and Bluetooth are turned off unless needed. And it's not regularly Syncing with Facebook, Twitter and all that stuff. The only regular syncing is the weather.
[Desire General] th3:
Not sure if these are bugs with some hardware/software or standard functionality with your usages. I'm getting excellent battery life with my usage patterns/settings and far happier with this than with any of my previous devices, since this adds an exorbitant amount of power-draining functionality and flexibility over them too.

- Heaviest use is netting 28-33 hours.

- Typical use is getting minimum 3-3.5 days.

- Light use (also the norm for me me) lasted 5.5-6 days.

- Basic inconsistent call/message/email/net/stocks/news/stop watch/GPS/ compass/notepad/office/weather/ vid/pic/audio throughout the day kept the battery at 84% after 24 hours. 3G off, using WiFi. I don't keep any but the needy apps/settings running BTW.

- Charges to 100% always and stays up there consistently as expected.

However there is a pertinent aspect yet unmentioned;

Biggest difference between my usage and the typical internet crowd is that I don't use or bother with "social networking" (Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, etc) or its likes nor do I play any games on this (hence sync with such apps is off and any updates are set to manual). However rss feeds, e-mail and IMs with close ones I do use during the day when I have spare minutes.

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[Desire General] th3:
Same situation as mine there.

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[Desire General] choccy31:
I'm deffo leaning now that there are faulty batteries out there causing the problem. I can get good life if I can get the battery to charge properly. but when it doesn't battery lasts hardly half a day. I don't use any apps that require automatic updates (all manual or off). But net on drains it very quickly (if I leave data on). Faulty Batteries I feel.
[Desire General] jah:
My Desire has a better ability to hang on to a weak signal than my other phones. I am on T-mobile. Battery life is adeqaute, in that, I can get through a day of use before a charge is needed. Will switch-off GPS and see what happens -I never had GPS on all the time on my other Smartphones.
[Desire General] Ramedge:
Coming from a G1 that could barely make it through the day on standby this phone seems pretty good.

I got mine last friday it has just come off of it's third charge. I charged it for 3 hours when I got it, ran it right down >10% then left to charge up fully again.

I installed JuiceDefender and bought the UltimateJuice upgrade as soon as I got the phone.

Day 2 (with JuiceDefender) - battery lasted 13h27m, thats with WiFi, phone calls, MMS, 3g, internet browsing/showing it off to mates in the pub and then listening to an album on spotify in the car.

Considering this is a new battery and it still needs several charges before it is working at full capacity, I think that is pretty good for a smart phone! It can only get better, right?

JuiceDefender - I can't recommend this app enough, I don't want to mess about with Task Killers (that don't really save battery), I don't want to stop stuff syncing (because thats the whole point of this phone) but I want to optimize my battery life to get me through the day and this app does it so well!

I've currently got it setup to turn 2g/3g off when in standby but set to turn data back on every 5mins for 30s to allow apps to sync. You can specify a longer interval which will obviously save more battery over the course of a day. The phone connects back to a 2/3g connection so quick when you bring it out of standby so your not waiting around to get back online.

Switch on WiFi at known locations - I have this setup because at home, 3g signal is a bit patchy and it probably uses more battery constantly trying to get a 3g signal all the time, than it does if it is just connected to WiFi.

Turn data off between 2am-8am while I am sleeping.

Turn data off when battery is below 15% - with my G1 it would hit 15% just as I'd be heading home on the train in the evening, so I'd turn data off just so I could send a few texts or so I had just enough battery to make a call. So I figured I might as well use that last 15% battery for basic phone operation and give me enough battery to get home! I probably don't need this with the Desire though.

Any one else using JuiceDefender?
[Desire General] dr_s:
WOW, can I have your battery please ... ;)

What did u do to get this powerhouse. Was it weaker in the begining and got better with charges or was it like this from the begining?

I dont use GPS at all. Only for navigation, when in car and then it is on charge. Normal day.. no gps, no auto data connection - do it manually when internet connecttion is neede. But battery doesn't last a day, merely 12-14 hours. Charged 3 times yet, only 3 days old Desire.
[Desire General] callummc:
I cant find juice defender in the market?
[Desire General] ritdaw:
When I first got my Hero I remember my battery life being terrible, most of it was down to fiddling all the time, however over time my usage changed and the battery had been charged a lot the life was a lot better. Also there were a number of radio upgrades installed, which probably helped.

Since I've got my Desire, the "desire" to fiddle hasn't stopped and I feel as if I'm in the same situation as I was with the Hero.

My opinion is that over time the battery life will be better, as with the Hero.
[Desire General] Ramedge:
Yes both Ultimate Juice and Juice Defender are in the Market.