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[P3600 ROM Development] Fernbedienung:
Just installed the new version and all looks very nice so far :)

I got one question on how to sort the TouchFLO tabs (like "home", "messages", "mail", etc.). It seems with Advanced Config --> Menu --> More Settings --> Touch Flo 3D I still get to the sorting page but two error messages pop up before and changing something in the touch flo 3d tabs settings seems not to work. Any hint is appretiated :)
[P3600 ROM Development] blitz.pt:
Thank you arpcpro, I will try that later when I'm home, and I will give feed back
[P3600 ROM Development] francarl:
yes, I confirm this. Not so good if your trinity is still under warranty...
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
The kernel we use in combination with the hardware number produce a different ID.

So tom tom maps either need to be re-activated, or if the method above works, then it's fine :cool:

I am currently testing an "older" configuration : "older" device kernel along with 21874 SYS. Surprisingly, the device boots with M2D on at 58% used RAM - almost 23 MB free, wich is more than actual uploaded versions. I also removed un-necessary services that I don't use ( STK service + UIPPC, USSD service, QuickGPS, Threaded SMS skin) and device responds better.

Now, it's just a daily test build. I am mainly sticked to get a better overal stability with all our recents enhancements.

Plus, let me say to everyone that I am not a Titanium fan, it's a light RAM memory print but seems to me far from ideal and has nothing intuitive in the pannels, etc. So, I think I'll release a basic version, but very basic :D It will have the HTC lockscreen coupled.

From Icke's point of view, I guess Titanium is not so great thing to develop.

I'll include the HSC utility in cab that permits Titanium easy customization :cool:

Brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
Great news guys. Thank you for all your time and efforts. :D
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
May I ask which NK version? back to a Trinity (pre-p3600i) NK?
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Yes, although Icke doesn't understand me going back ... :p

It's a logical thing he says, and he's right, if I change two parameters at the same time, it can't be a scientific approach. :eek:

So today, I build with Kernel 3.03 along with 21874 SYS ... will test thoroughly.

I also have a 21901 complete to test but totally in pieces, like a puzzle :cool:

Brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
looks like we're going to have really blasting rom soon ! ;)
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Don't misunderstand; Icke and I heard the user's feedback about stability that's all. So now, we try to tweak to the strongest bases, keeping all the huge work done for OEM, packages and then top notch enhancements & design questions.

And yes, next rom could blast you :D beware :cool:

brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
hehehe ... my concern is more that it breaks p3600i compatibility :p

... but scavenging ram in the trinity is a gruelling task so I understand you gotta try whatever might work. :cool:
[P3600 ROM Development] srgudhka:
installed. but cannot start contact utility launcher. gettin error of insufficient permission or it is not signed.
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Have you tried to restart PPC from fresh then install cabs ? Icke had similar problem and it was solved by Soft Reset.

If persists, don't worry, the Contact Utility will be inside new manila rOm versions by default, if FranCarl gives us his blessings, :cool: there will be credits of course :)

brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] francarl:
of course you have my permission! would be a great honor for me :)
[P3600 ROM Development] Gertz:
When it is that rom, that you sent me, i must say, it is far smoother and produces less crashes, than that official one.. its really nice, and i am sticking to it for now for different causes

1. smooth and fast

2. no crashes so far

so, i think its better (aaah, and the ram is far less full)
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
hey, i wanna beta-test either :D
[P3600 ROM Development] frans23:
Hi icke and nAr :)

i've installed your ROM for 2-3 weeks, and this is the best manila ROM i've ever tried:cool:

and this some my feedbacks/questions:D

1. i couldn't find option to turn off data connection:(

2. audio manager suddenly couldn't work. i've tried reinstall several versions, but nothing happen.:confused:

3. it's possible to assign lock (lock option above left soft key if we press win button) to S2U2? i mean if i push lock button it'll run S2U2 instead of WM lock?

4. i couln't sync my phone with my computer :( . i've tried several times. change usb cable and reboot phone but nothing happen:confused:

sorry if i'm asking too much:) btw sorry for my english, coz i'm from indonesia.:p

best regards
[P3600 ROM Development] Kenzneth:
Me 2:D

Cant wait for that :p
[P3600 ROM Development] ickebins:
1. Scroll down in comm manager, you'll find the switch to turn off the data connection there. Or you can always press and hold the "end call" button.

4. Go to settings/connections/usbtopc and turn off "enable faster data sync". Maybe a softreset is needed afterwards. Report back if it works.
[P3600 ROM Development] frans23:
1. i can turn it off now. my mistakes. i always press at "set up data connection" not at "off on" :o

4. it works now :eek:. dunno why it doesn't works before.

the only problem not is audio manager. i'm still looking for solution.

thanks icke.
[P3600 ROM Development] IzNoGooD011:
I don't know if it is a bug, but QuickGPS is not downloading data over wifi connection, only with ActiveSync... even when data is expired.

Does anyone else can confirm this?
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
Mine downloads over WiFi, ActiveSync, or GPRS just fine. I just tested all three.
[P3600 ROM Development] avalanche3:
Problem with greek keyboard and 3g call

Hello. I think that is the best rom i have ever tried. verys table and as fast as it can be on p3600. The only problem i have is that i cant use the greek keyboard. I have downladed the greek xt9 keyboard and after restarting the device i have the option to use the greek language but when i choose it, the keyboard doesn't work. if i change to english it works fine. what's the problem?

I would aslo like to ask if there is a way to make 3g calls... Thank you
[P3600 ROM Development] rayc1985uk:
Clocks?

I have installed M2D Customizer and enabled the analogue clock but nothing shows, just a blank screen? has it been removed and if so, can it be added back?

Thanks
[P3600 ROM Development] Make My Day!:
I have one question.

So you said in your last 3 roms that you will release the kitchen!

But i found nothing?????

So will you release this time the kitchen? :)
[P3600 ROM Development] zoom:
my green and red button is not working after flashing to this rom...is there any fix to it?

can anyone please help me out
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Try a hard reset. No reason it wouldn't work :)

If no success, re flash & hard reset.

Brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
any news on some new (titanium in particular) releases? or could you share new dialer & that ez kb version from your rom as cabs or in a form to add to some other kitchen?
[P3600 ROM Development] ickebins:
Today I made a minor update to shorten the time until the next release.

New 9 button action screen with:

- New appointment, contact, note, task

- Link to system setting & htc settings (Thanks to francarl)

- xdaShutdown to reboot or turn off phone

- wifi and BT toggle

- Exit M2D and silent hibernate are now softkeys on action screen

Other changes:

- more sense applications work in landscape now

- disabled htc taskmanager autokill

- disabled stk and ussd services

If you use your own m2d skin, make shure to backup your HTCHomeSettings.xml before installing the update. If you need stk+ussd, you can re-enable them with fs_taskmgr.

Download on first page, post #2.
[P3600 ROM Development] pdurand55:
Hi there,

Very nice and fast rom.

However, after 10+ days of using, I experience the following problem:

* I often have to soft reset (twice a day, sometimes more) since the 3600 is getting unresponding. Not a big issue, just to know

* I however experience a big issue: I use exchange push mail from my office, using activesync on the trinity. I have always the same problem that generally occurs twice a week. Here is the sequence:

1) unrespondive -> soft reset

2) after the reset, no data connection possible. The bouygues internet conection is still here but no modem is assigned (the line is blank, cannot change). So i have no choice than recreating a connection (with 3g modem option)

3) in the meantime, email account has totally disapeared. Settings for activesync also disapeared. So i have to set it again and resynchronise from scratch

I dont know if my device is getting old or if it is a common bug. I tried everything including hard reset.

If you have a beta rom to test, I'll go for it since once again I'm an intensive user

Regards and thx again
[P3600 ROM Development] zoom:
try to reflash 3 times already...still the same...strange
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
Very strange. I haven't heard of anyone with that problem yet.

@narshorn: Are you guys considering changing the Kernel to another version? It seems the one currently in this ROM is the older (or newer) one that lost the email, network, passwords, accounts, etc after a reset. I know there was a different version used later that fixed those issues. Just a thought. :o Not a complaint, just wondering. Still an awesome ROM. :D

@anyone who knows: Does anyone know why some ROMs give more storage space and others don't? I know when I'm cooking, I get some that have 80mb and some with 40mb and I don't know why? I notice this ROM is around 40-50mb storage, and it would be nice to have a little more. Is it related to Slot 0 not being empty, the kernel? Thanks.
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
I think Icke is attached to that kernel because of the compatibility patching made possible for P3600i ... I still dunno which one behaves better. I also think we should maybe think about releasing a "true p3600i" version, with this kernel, and use the other kernel to do "standard" P3600 roms. I think it's a lot of more work however.

I don't think it is related to kernel. Simply, the dll change that reduces EXTROM to minimum gives us possibilities to fulfill the rom ... the more HTC packages, less free storage :)

Brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] spacehog@libero.it:
Hi ,

the rom you have put together is very good, and also very polished.

I have been using it for a while and I have no complaints. Since I am italian and use the WWE version I would like to have an italian keyboard and XT9. Can somebody point me to the method of customizing the keyboard locale?

Thank you and again good job.
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
The short is located in Start -> Parameters -> System -> Touch Input Settings /Options

(The Italian kb seems qwerty on my device.)

here you can change keyboard language, XT9, etc ...

XT9 can also be activated on keyboard itself while in a mail or SMS or webpage.

Brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] ickebins:
Can you describe in more detail when exactly it locks up? Or is it just completely random? You could also try to install the update from post#2, as this turns of htc taskmanager autokill.

You can try to setup your internet connection and exchange account and use it, disconnect afterwards and turn your phone completely off and on again. I pulled this tip from an old thread on bepe's rom:

Please report back if it fixes your issues.
[P3600 ROM Development] IzNoGooD011:
OK, I found the problem... At first my assumption was that QuickGPS doesn't download new data, so I deleted xtra.bin from Windows folder. Then went to QuickGPS and pressed Download button ... and it did downloaded new xtra.bin file - but it was from 9th May and Expired!

Now, I tried manually downloading new file from http://xtra1.gpsonextra.net/xtra.bin and replacing it - but QuickGPS showed today's date and again Expired.

Clicked Download and again got 9th May file...

Any idea for a workaround?
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
who cares, it doesn't work on trinitys anyway
[P3600 ROM Development] IzNoGooD011:
Why do they use it in the ROM, if it doesn't work?
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
good question
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
It would be a lot more work, and either way is just fine. Thank you.

This makes a lot of sense. Cleared it up for me. Now I realize why some of my ROMs have more or less free ram. ;)

I have not tried the update yet, but I have experienced this bug a few times. I believe I run too many things at once, then run out of memory, thus causing the problem.

Nice find. This is exactly what we used to do on the old ROMs.

I for one, have never seen a difference using or not using QuickGPS, but there are those who still swear that it does something. It's likely a placebo, but maybe some phones respond to it correctly. I think I remember the GPS chip is not the correct one to use it, but again, maybe some phones work. :confused:
[P3600 ROM Development] CesarSan:
M2D Maps Search

Hello,

Firstly congratullations for the ROM.

I´ve just installed it and I found it so nice but I tryed to search using the Maps Search function on M2D and nothing happened, even after installing Google Maps...

Is there a way to make it works? I think that the Google Maps path must be placed in the registry... Do you know the exact key that must be inserted?

Thanks
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
works for me
[P3600 ROM Development] ickebins:
Google maps is installed if you followed the instructions. It seems you missed the postinstall. Unzip xda_uc folder to SD and hardreset, or install everything in there by hand.
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Perfectly right ... the soft itself works, but our current hardware doesn't seem to support AGPS even if the chip itself could do it, not mapped on our device

Because, it's a fancy soft, and, people always complain when it's not there ... we just add it, that's all. I really think it's a placebo question, and rarely help to fix data faster.

Here, jedai, I may have to flame you for your often unproductive behaviour towards community. You seem to download, test and use our released stuff, but sometimes your behaviour seems really bad to me, at least I can control myself not to shout at you like hell; but hey, do criticize, but in a productive way, so we may have a chance to get better things and bug fixes for next releases. For God sake.

RAM usage, yes, depends of base rom, WM 6 or WM 6.1 or WM 6.5, plus if you use a Manila, over a Titanium, but also services running in the background ... I personally cook some roms for myself without QuickGPS, because then no service is running. Costs about 300 kb RAM ... added to this, and this, and this, easily 1 Mb RAM is lost ... so. :)

Additional packages eat Storage Space, so it's no RAM used but ROM (storage) space that is eaten, the more HTC packages you have, the less storage space left. But I think you already know it ;)

Best regards,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] pdurand55:
Thanks once again for your kind reply. I'm trying this step by step. First I installed the update. So far, no more soft reset and no loss of account.

If this happens again, I will let u know and will hard reset it once before trying your email setup trick.

Thx again!
[P3600 ROM Development] CesarSan:
Well, now I´ve noticed that I really missed this step... But I had already installed Google Maps (not from the postinstall files) and the search didn´t work anyway. Is there any difference if I install from the cab downloaded with the ROM?

I think the problem has to do with the information on the following path of the registry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila2D\Location]

The installation folder of Google Maps must be defined somewhere and I think this is the place... Could you send me the keys of your registry?

Thanks
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
hahah, well, it's not that I don't appreciate your work - I really do - it's just a mix up of my sense of humor and just the way i am in everydays life - always speaking what i think. don't get upset, just ignore some of my comments, i just like to poke people sometime ;)

so - still waiting for new experimental builds :)
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
I can send you the GGM registry keys, although the best thing for you is as Icke said, hard reset and let XDA_UC install the cabs silently. Or, uninstall your current GMM and use the cab we provided, then SR, it shoud be fixed.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apps\Google Maps]

"Instl"=dword:00000001

"InstallDir"="\."

"InstlDir"="\."

Brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] masterbyte:
it's a great rom but a bit hungry for memory.

can you make a wm 6.1 version of the rom?
[P3600 ROM Development] Kenzneth:
O.. it is clear that QuickGPS is useless

how about puting it in the postinstall instead of moding it into the rom:)

thx for your great work!
[P3600 ROM Development] IzNoGooD011:
Can you tell me, where does your QuickGPS is downloading data from?

Even if it doesn't help, my own demons torment me if something is Expired and I can't do anything about it :)

It is still stuck on 9th May, again downloaded newer file directly and overwritten the same one in Windows folder... but application doesn't recognize new file - maybe is not from the same source you use...
[P3600 ROM Development] dc4life:
Kitchen!

Do you mind sharing your kitchen set m8.. or if you cant could i get just ROMFolder and OEMFolder, i want to build 6.5.x for my old trin,,

thanks!
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Just hard reset and you'll be fine, it will correct all errors

Brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
It's not as easy as it seems, as the kitchen uses certificates at cook in rom.

So to say differently, a cab might not work for those reasons, even if we tried to unsign everything in rOm.
[P3600 ROM Development] dc4life:
afaik quickgps can easily install on any other roms, dependencies for quickgps only on bootservice, no cert dependencies.. and the size of whole pkg less than 380kb so doesnt have a great effect on storage i dont see any reason why i should removed it since its very useful and works to find better location and my gps position fix locked in less than 15sec..

here's where quickgps download its data:

"Server1"="xtra1.gpsOneXTRA.net"

"Server2"="xtra2.gpsOneXTRA.net"

"Server3"="xtra3.gpsOneXTRA.net"
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Hmm, quickGPS also needs other dependencies we already have in rom ... not relies only on bootservice ....
[P3600 ROM Development] Qamarzamsyawal:
How to Install?

I made this splash some time ago, i think it fits perfect to our black-style ROM. Both pictures will be shown at boot, the first one is from mega, the second from iolite.

Download, then flash like a ROM: http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=309412&d=1271267314[/QUOTE]

Hi there,

I tried to flash it but when i double click it my xp popped up with a message-Opens with...browse program.Itdoesn't know what program is this. NBH file/ISO.Do we have to mount it first to get the png.?

Thxs
[P3600 ROM Development] narshorn:
Simple. It flashes like a rom, so use a RUU upgrade utility to install it. Use the ruu folder of the rom, and replace the rom .nbh with that one in the "flash" folder.

this .nbh file just replaces the bootscreens, and is independant of rom image itself.

Perhaps you will loose customisation on your current rom after doing the upgrage, i.e. like when you hard reset. The bootscreens will stay still, no matter which rom you install in the future :)

Extracting pngs is not needed. They will install themselves as they are part of this small sized .nbh

Hope I was clear enough, ;)

Brds,

nAr
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
NOTICE: Please use the attached YouTube cab file in place of the one in the XDA_UC Folder I provide in the link if you already downloaded it. Otherwise, I will update the one in the link to include the updated cab (Link Updated, fixes YouTube and returns GoogleMaps back to Main Memory). It fixes M2D not being able to access YouTube. For SkyFire, you can change that using M2DC found in the M2D Folder after installation. For Google, hold off on my New Google because it breaks the M2D Connection and I have not figured out yet why. :( Anyone remember where that reg setting is?

Since I am using this ROM Full Time now (Longest I've used a ROM for a long time), I thought I'd share my setup with you all.

This is simply the Original ROM Created by nAr & icke flashed to my phone, with the exception of the XDA_UC folder. I've made some changes that suite me personally. I altered the links.mscr file, and updated/modified the Cab Installers. I've shared the XDA_UC folder I use in the link below. (If anyone that knows how, can modify the different languages in the links.mscr file, that would help. I only know the WWE one.

http://www.mediafire.com/?vznozmmi4yg

Changes:

All XDA_UC installed programs are now installed to my SD Card with exception of Connection Setup & GoogleMaps. This saved me quite a bit of Main Memory Storage Space, 30+ MB Free. I feel it has made the phone much more responsive. (After Syncing with my Outlook 2010, I would run around 2+ MB Free, thus the slowdown, I think. Also would get low storage memory errors when running programs.) It made no difference on the Main Memory RAM, so it has about as much as it did before.

Removed HTC Calculator - (Duplicates Windows Calculator)

Left Connection Setup Alone as before

Moved Icon for Email Setup Wizard to Accessories Folder

Updated Google Maps to Latest Version 4.1.0.44. Press the Green Talk Button and say what you are searching for. :D

Moved Google Maps icon to GPS Tools Folder (might have already been there?) Moved Program installation back to Main Memory for M2D Compatibility

Updated YouTube to Latest Version 2.4.4.0 (might have already been latest?) Fixed the Cab installer to allow M2D functionality

Moved YouTube icon to Multimedia Folder (might have already been there?)

Added SkyFire 1.5 and moved icon to Internet Folder (My Favorite Browser :D)

Added M2DC and moved icon to M2D Folder

Added TomTom and moved icon to GPS Tools Folder (I would suggest removing this if you don't own the TomTom Maps. Will save you a bit of space.

NOTICE: ONLY use this folder if you leave an SD Card installed, and Minimum 25 MB Free on that Card.

That's it for now. Enjoy! :D

PS: I have not noticed any slowdown in running my programs this way, but I recommend using a fast SD Card if you notice differently.
[P3600 ROM Development] purewater:
Dear SuperSport,

How can I remove total commander or other preinstall apps I don't want from main memory, and use XDA_UC method to install them on my sd card?

Thanks.
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
I'm not aware of any way to do that. I think you will need the kitchen to do that much customizing. Sorry, someone else might know better than me.
[P3600 ROM Development] ickebins:
Thanks for sharing that.

The kitchen release will be soon, so I hope you'll continue the good work when you have more to play with then just the xda_uc ;)
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
No problem for the compliment. Seriously, you guys have done the most thorough job of getting everything matching and running well together. You deserve the praise. I'm looking forward to tweaking it a little using the Kitchen, but take the time you need.

One quick question. Is anyone having trouble with the in-call volume being too low? It seems a little lower in this ROM than in some others. It may just be my phone getting old, so thought I'd ask. I also realize it's a Trinity issue, but it seems a bit more here. I tried setting the Registry settings for volume louder, and it is (a little), until I use the Volume Knob, and it goes back down. Maybe a Max Vol Registry entry for the Volume Overlay?
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
yeah, i can hear it too!

but there is even more serious bug - timer does not ring when phone is charging !