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[XPERIA X10 General] loggy:
Yes I would say this has helped my battery, I've run it down to less than 10% for 3 days than charge overnight and the battery is defo much better.

It seems the wifi does this too. Advise to reboot after gps or wifi use.

One more thing someone mentioned new sim cards, well mine was new with this phone and I had crap battery so after reading that I bedded the card in by sliding it in and out of the slot a 10-20 times till you see the lines on the gold bits, it may of helped a bit by making a good contact surface. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
I dunno, I switched my WiFi on and off quite regularly when I need it, and GPS too sometimes. When I switch WiFi and/or GPS, I never rebooted my X10, and it didn't drain the battery like crazy afterwards, just normal 1% loss per 2-3 hour.

Right now, it's my X10's 65th hour since it was last charged (Yes, Sixty Five hours), with 29% battery left. During the last 3 days, I've switched on and off the WiFi numerous times, but only for 10 mins or so each time, also a few GPS rounds.... and not one reboot.

Please note that I have been mostly on stand by, only made a few mins of calls, sent a few texts, about 5 hours of Bluetooth usage, 2 hours of which was listening to music, a total of 1 hour of browsing through WiFi, traces of GPS activity. Also using GPS/WCDMA Preferred mode.

My SIM card is a Pre paid one, and about a year old.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
The results are in...

Wifi off - Juice Defend and plotter deinstalled ; rebooted (Friday)

0730- 100%

0838 - 100%

1030 - 97%

Wifi on ; sleep policy set to sleep when screen off; rebooted;

wifi not actively used.

1130 - 96%

Surfed for 5 mins to activate the wifi... Then left for 25.

1135 - 95%

1200 - 94% - then used app market for 5 mins played a couple of games for 10 mins

1216 - 90% then left alone

1230 - 89%

1330 - 86% -

1420 - NEW SIM CARD ARRIVED !!! - 83% after install.

1520 - 80%

1700 - 68%

So... it seems to me that Juice Defender wasn't actually making a blind bit of difference... I got 9.5 hours out of 32%... with Juice Defender off.. haven't had performance that good since.... well since I got the phone 2 weeks ago!

Tomorrow... I'll try it with task manager de-installed... who knows!
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
I think I may have found a way to deinstall moxier.. but haven't got the balls to try it (Queue chicken noises!!)...

download a file manager off the market called Astro.. open this up and go "UP" one level out of the SD card onto the phones internal memory.. now goto system/app

in here is a list of installed apps...

scroll down to moxier.. touch moxiermail then select "open app manager" There's a button in here titled "uninstall"...

Anyone prepared to give it a go!
[XPERIA X10 General] Veeger:
Haha now isn't that cheeky. :p

Surely with your SEUS ready to repair any accidental damage you may do to your phone software, your not afraid to give it a go? LoL
[XPERIA X10 General] quanganhle90:
I did it without any hesitation ! But sadly it doesn't work... :(
[XPERIA X10 General] Veeger:
As did I

"uninstall not successfull

Moxier Mail could not be uninstalled"

Guess we're going to have to wait for a root f some sort boys and girls. Unless someone wants to give sabotaging moxiers files so that it fails to open a go?!
[XPERIA X10 General] Jksukino:
yeah i've astro to but nothing helps.

really would like to ask sony what they where thinking :S
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
I've installed Startup Auditor on top of TaskPanel, selected Moxier Mail to not load at startup and keep it from loading.... but it still loads anyway when I switch on WiFi until I kill it or killall.
[XPERIA X10 General] Jksukino:
yeah, all those apps start up whenever you've got an connection. thats why there so amazingly annoying.

ive got advanced task killer killing it every 15 min but to get actually rid of it you'll have to uninstall it.

and the only way to do that would be to root as long as i know.
[XPERIA X10 General] Trekster:
Well disabled Location Services through GSM - and now the phone has gone from being usable for ~12 hours to ~40....!

Quite a improvement.
[XPERIA X10 General] brunswick000:
what exactly is the location services responsible for a what are you giving up disabling it? You talking about GPS and the like?
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
It's so the government can pin point your location, so switch it off!

Joke.

GPS and AGPS work fine with that disabled, so no complaints. Maybe it's used for your friends to locate you on Google map or something...
[XPERIA X10 General] silklee:
Hi

I have been reading this thread with much interest and I want to fall in love with the X10. It just looks so gorgeous.

However, the one thing that get on my nerves is battery life. If it is only going to last 8 hours like what some have reported, I will tear my hair out. Nonetheless, it was heartening to hear that most of the users have been getting better results as they charge the battery more times. This has made me 99% sure that I will go buy the phone tomorrow.

So, I thought i would want to know what is the optimal way to charge the battery for the first time. Should I stop the charging once its full or should I charge it for say 8 or 9 hours regardless?

Also, can the included software (I assume that there is a software included in the package) work with a Mac?

Appreciate any advice.
[XPERIA X10 General] kiwi45:
For me removing the digital clock widget from the home screen seems to have helped. This morning at 8am the phone was 100% charged. By 11am it was 68% without doing much. I removed the digital clock widget and at 11pm the batt level is at 65%. Something is not right here.
[XPERIA X10 General] Jksukino:
@silklee, well all i can say is that what ever you do it has almost no impact on the battery.

some people report it did but as you can read the same thing didn't changed anything for others.

just do some recharges and the battery will get a lot better ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] ajelman:
old sim card seems reasonable for my battery problem..

it consumes like 1% for about 1 minute when im browsing the market using 3g with my over 6 years old sim card...

i just got a new one today and gonna give it a try...
[XPERIA X10 General] uncanny:
Would any1 happen to know if desire has better battery life or X10? I'm planning to sell my desire for X10, the camera is horrible and optical trackpad is a joke.

Desire 1400 mAH AMOLED

X10 1500 mAH TFT
[XPERIA X10 General] ajelman:
The new sim card solved part of the problem..

it only used 1% on standby with 3g on for an hour.. which is alot better than before..

But after i turn wifi on, it started to drain again.. there are surely some critical problem with the wifi chip
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Have you set your wifi sleep policy to sleep when the screen goes off? It's definitely inconsistent with it's power use.. Mines down to 31% today after 15 hours... still much better than when I first got the first handset (swapped it last week cos it died twice in a day and I had to factory reset).. I've also deinstalled juice defender (ultimate) 2 days ago.. and yesterday I had the best battery performance yet - I'm perplexed by it!!
[XPERIA X10 General] ajelman:
umm... how can i do that??
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
in "Wifi settings" press the menu button - the left one - select advanced settings - in here...
[XPERIA X10 General] silklee:
I have 2 colleague's husbands who just bought the phone and shared that the battery can last for 1.5 to 2 days. I know thats not too precise but basically they are saying that the battery life is fine.

Btw, can the x10 be linked to a mac? anyone knows?
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
Update: My X10 finally completely discharged (switched off by itself) after 83 hours of light usage. That's 3.5 days, with the last 15% I did quite some heavy usage just so that I kill the battery quicker hehe.
[XPERIA X10 General] Trekster:
After switching off location services(which are used for weather location(automatic), Google Maps when GPS is switched off, Latitude etc..) my phone when from ~11-12 hours MAX to 1d03h23s before it reached 10% and dimmed the screen :-)

So turn off Location Services if you absolutely don't need them! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] eagle_1313:
Im very pleased width my x10i battery. Goes 2 day easy... and all that after 3th full charged. I'm using all the phone features, except from moxier sh*t apps... and now and than I use task killer (if some app still remain open in back after I close it).

I have switched from 3g to 2g (no need for me to be on 3g), disabled location services, turned off BT and WiFi (turn them on when needed), and reduce all automatic updates to they optimum.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Weird couple of days with my phone...

Saturday

0730 - 100%

1100 - 83%

1430 - 68%

1817 - 48% - Clock widget removed

1937 - 45%

2114 - 37%

2150 - 32%

2245 - 29%

Deinstalled task manager.. Startup auditor.. Weather forecast

(ignore list was... Task manager; alarm clock; startup auditor; calendar; fotmob 4.6; weather widgets (yr.no) )

0045 - 7% - used 93% in 17hrs

Sunday - figures in brackets are the hourly drop rate.....

0815 -95%

0915 - 90% (5)

1023 - 88% - Switched off background data and autosync

1138 - 86% (2)

1600 - 55% (7)

1700 - 50% (5)

2023 - 45% (1.5)

Overall - 55% in 12 hours - 4.5% an hour.. this is with the phone running in it's basic form really.. hourly updates on email and facebook... wifi set to sleep when the screen goes off... not great

going to re-install task manager see what that does..

Will reinstall task manager now
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
thanks for the numbers, i'll try something similar soon

update on task manager plz
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
I only used Task Panel and managed 3.5 days (83 hours) of very light usage. It's been an average of 25% of battery loss per 24 hours.

Widgets used: Clock, Weather, Timescape, Calendar.

Background Data and Location Service are OFF.

Autosyncs are OFF.

I Kill All apps prior to standby mode, eventhough TaskPanel does auto Kill All upon screen switching off.

And you know, the correct term is UNinstall instead of DEinstall. Sorry, just kinda bug me that you keep saying deinstall :)
[XPERIA X10 General] cashaw:
I am also getting confused with the battery life time...

Yesterday it managed just 12 hours from a full charge and after 7 hours was down to 50%, I had done very little with it yesterday except for checking emails, facebook etc.

After a full charge again, I left it overnight and after 8 hours it is now still on 95% full charge ! On Friday night when I left it untouched in the same location it had lost 40% of it's charge in the same time.

On another point, I have left GPS and Wi-Fi switched off, so when I was walking around a shopping centre yesterday, how did it know to alert me that 'Free open access Wi-Fi is available in this location" ?
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
Maybe that's what "Location Services" option do when ticked. It's under Settings > Location.
[XPERIA X10 General] sidneylopsides:
I checked the SEUS last night and there was an update for my phone, I did it and totalyl forgot to check the version I was on before. Oops.

anyway, I fully charged it and it's on 95% this morning. Seems better. But I also turned off the location thing, so it could be either of those that's affected it.
[XPERIA X10 General] cashaw:
Earlier in the day I had played with these settings and unticked them, but still the battery drained...

I am a bit suspicious of the task killer, I wonder if it is killing the root processes but not sub processes which may be running wild and continuing to drain the battery.

It's now been going for 12 hours, installed and played with some new applications and checked email, web. The battery is still at 89%, so today I am happy !
[XPERIA X10 General] Belazor:
What's the version afterwards?

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[XPERIA X10 General] sidneylopsides:
Build is R1FA016. which I think is the same as before.... on 13hours and 67%. juiceplotter days 25hours left.

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[XPERIA X10 General] brightonsblueeyedboy:
Well I just thought I'd share that after installing juice defender and task killer, my battery life was worse - back to only lastying me 9 hours before needing a recharge so I ended up uninstalling them and now my battery life appears ok - 20 hours with moderate use - few calls, few texts, play online games for about an hour or 2, screen on auto brightness (could not see the screen in the sun at all when it was on the lowest setting). I did leave my wi fi on all night as well by accident and was very surprised to find it had hardly affected my battery life.

My conclusion - my battery just does what it wants, when it wants and aint a damn thing I can do about it...except turn it off...HA! Still love the phone though...
[XPERIA X10 General] silklee:
Just got my phone yesterday. Love it and hope I will continue loving it.

Its now about 23 hours since I unplugged it from the charger and I am still on my first charge with 37% left.

As you might imagine, I did do quite a few things on the phone. Just wanted to play with it. However I turned almost everything off.. wifi, bluetooth, the location thing etc.
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrondx:
Have anyone noticed big difference between charging through usb connection on the pc, and through the wall adapter? does the battery last longer?
[XPERIA X10 General] Jksukino:
hey, disabled juicedefender today and damn does it last :O.

has been 22h and battery is still on 83% with some minor usage
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
it doesn't last longer but it takes more time to charge your battery through the usb port
[XPERIA X10 General] Mystiqueen:
battery discharge

pardon my stupidity...but how do you discharge the battery?
[XPERIA X10 General] Jksukino:
just by using it until its up and shutting down on itself.
[XPERIA X10 General] sidneylopsides:
back home and with 30% left, 18hours so far. task panel with sleep kill seems to be doing it, going to charge it up and leave that turned off tomorrow.

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[XPERIA X10 General] cashaw:
20 hours uptime without charge now and just spent 30 minutes demoing video, GPS and other toys. Battery currently at 56% !

Today I have not used the task killer which I think maybe causing problems by not shutting apps down properly.

Also running down the battery until the phone shuts off seems to help it calculate its best battery life....

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[XPERIA X10 General] ratheen:
which network are you on and which country did you buy the phone from?

I have a theory about different shipments having different battery life
[XPERIA X10 General] andrewbowes:
Battery Life Is A Joke

Hi,

i have the x10 from O2 in the uk, took the phone of charge this morning at 730am have made 3 calls less than a minute each, haven't physically used the phone and now 12 hours later 5% battery life. battery usage shows 47% cell standby & 45% Phone Idle. anyone with any advice would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks

Andrew
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
8h running and it went from 100% to 35% now...pfff
[XPERIA X10 General] Cuspide:
unpluged this morning 7 am, it's 8h30 pm, I did few call, mail with 2mo, edge 3g All day, sms mms, photos... I still have 65% battery left. juice defender says I got 20h of power to go... x10 from 10th days now. the first 3 days I couldn't pass 10hours... :-)

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[XPERIA X10 General] Mark_Dawson:
Well on battery life I can say that having got 37 hours standby and I was at 57% battery life. Main points are

Baseband 1.0.16 & de-branded

switched to GSM only for this result

Have advanced task manager running killing moxier etc.

Switched to GSM/WCDMA this morning and the battery life drained out today and am now at 19% so my total standby so far is 49 hours think it will run out later tonight if I stay on GSM/WCDMA
[XPERIA X10 General] ShadowFlare:
After having the longest battery life of 3.5 days, 2 days ago, today my X10 is behaving weird. Similar to the cases where WiFi and/or GPS is used, the battery for some reason kept draining after switching them off.

Today I used 3G for my Google Maps, was only for 10 mins, also listening to music through Bluetooth (total of 3 hours ish). I didn't use WiFi today, so that rules out that. So maybe GPS is the real reason battery is draining after it is switched off?

I've closed Google Maps through Task Panel, made sure Moxier is not running, and suddenly I lost 35% battery life in the last 6 hours while it's on standby (GPS, BT, 3G Off). I think I lost 15% listening to music for 3 hours through BT.

I have not rebooted my X10, gonna let it drain till it's out of juice. Yeah, a service is running somewhere and not closed properly...
[XPERIA X10 General] boo6:
Mine is now at 48%. After 18h.

Some short calls, some MMS, 2h surfing. the key to longer battery life is are reboots.

Always on 3G and Wifi on.
[XPERIA X10 General] cashaw:
You should read the complete thread, lots of useful tips within !

Let it run itself completely dead for a few days, the battery life increases significantly. Switch off any of the location services you don't need to be running continuosly, reduce updates of Facebook/email...etc.. Battery monitor apps seem to drain the batteries, more than they help.

My phone has been used a lot today, especially in the past couple of hours, it is currently 26% full charge after 23 hours ! My iPhone never lasted this long on a full charge, but as someone said up on this thread, the battery on the X10 seems to have a life of it's own.

As long as I can use it as much as I like, but charge it up over night, then I am happy....
[XPERIA X10 General] cricka15:
Just thought i'd add my experience to the list.

Battery has got better since first few days, but this is mainly due to the "holy-cow-how-good-is-my-new-phone-factor" where it was being used constantly.

I'm currently approaching 48hrs with 50% battery left, would classify as moderate usage in those 48hrs. I've found that using the APN toggle widget which comes with JuiceDefender (which i have turned off) has given me the greatest increase in battery life, I now only turn APN (data connection?) on when I want to check email/update timescape or go online.

Also use the Taskiller widget to kill off annoying processes (moxier mail anyone :eek:)

Wish I could get Moxier Mail, My Uploads and Playnow to stop auto launching, I don't use any of them!! Not even sure what My Uploads is for!
[XPERIA X10 General] cashaw:
Hmm..... Just after my previous post I switched on all services, WiFi, GPS, Moxier etc and played around with them for 30 minutes, the battery dropped to around 25%. I then switched them all off and ran the task killer before putting the phone in standby.

30 minutes later the battery had dropped to 19%

3 hours later I was woken up by the phone telling me it was switching itself off and asking me to reconnect the charger.

So there does seem to be a problem with services not switching themselves off properly when in standby. Strangely it seems to use less battery when I am using the phone than when it is left in standby.

Hopefully someone from SE reads these threads and can look into these issues, I am sure that there must be some process which is eating battery life when in standby and this can be easily corrected....
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Hi, short term fix seems to be to power off and on again when you change the wifi or 3g/2g settings. Not ideal but seems to help most people.

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[XPERIA X10 General] Moominking:
Hi,

I have followed this thread for a while, providing a couple of comments a while back.

Over this past weekend I have seen a massive increase in the battery life.

I downloaded:

Advanced Task Killer

JUice Defender and Juice Plotter

I have unplugged the phone yesterday morning (19th) and today is is at 80% still. so within 24hrs it has lost just 20%, very happy now.

I have my gmail syncd (but only update it when I want to) and send a few messages and browse the internet via Wifi, but when not using anything everything is turned off, also I kill the chosen apps with task killer once I am finished before sleeping it. Also only on 2G, have both preferred but my Sim only allows 2G, it is old and waiting new 3G one from o2.

Thanks everyone for their advice, tips and hints and hope everyone else who hasn't yet gets theres sorted out. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Acronyc84:
Hi everyone, I thought I'd just post an update on my X10. This past Friday night I charged it, went to sleep and when I woke up 6 hours later it went from 100% to 80%. The weird thing was, the data connection was lost, so I'm assuming that it lost so much because of that. I rebooted and it regained the data connection, and then I got a Google Maps update notice. After this reboot, I updated Google maps, charged it up to 100%, and took it off the charger and it lasted for 30 hours before it turned off. It was on standby most of this time, but I did use it moderately for calls, gps maps, email and web browsing.

Since then, I've been able to get 20-30 hours out of my X10 with moderate usage. I'm happy with this, because all I need is to get through the day using it without needing a charge, which it's finally doing. My problem before was the phone never seemed to go into standby, which meant I was only getting about 8-10 hours out of it. Now it seems like standby is finally working, and when it's not in use it lasts a long time.

I have Startup Auditor killing Moxier Mail and I check task killer every now and then to kill it again if it shows up, but I'm not really sure if this is actually making a difference or not. It's possible there was something with Google maps that kept the phone from sleeping. I have all syncing off except when I do a manual update/check, and email checks every ten minutes.

I'm beginning to think that the OS just needs to get used to the battery, and that there isn't a universal time frame for this. It took me over two weeks and many complete drains to finally get the battery working like this, but now it seems to be all good. I hope it keeps up this way for the life of the battery. If yours still is giving you troubles, do a few batter drains and be patient, as some batteries might take longer to get optimial conditioning than others.

Thanks to everyone for all the helpful tips, and I hope everyone gets their phones and batteries working nicely together.
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
i have my x10 for about 2 months, so that's a lot of full drains and still it sucks...

it went from 94% @ 8am to 58% @ 2pm without any usage...
[XPERIA X10 General] jojosplace:
Had mine for over a week and still draining badly (I'm using a few app to kill programs now).

06:30 this morning = 100% chage, now (14:00) = 32% and thats with very little usage.
[XPERIA X10 General] silklee:
A quick update from me.

On the first charge of the battery, my x10 managed to last from 9:30pm to another day's 3pm, ie a total of 41.5 hours or so before it was totally drained and the phone switched off on its own.

I didnt use GPS or bluetooth much, but tried a lot of settings on the phone, ie creating contacts, shortcuts and basically admiring the phone. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] bimmerboii:
Charged the phone last night.. Took 3 hrs total for a full charge from a drained battery. I plugged it in 7.25pm, finished charging and removed the plug by 1030pm. I went to bed and woke up at 7am. So that's 8.5hrs of idle time. The phones battery is down to 67%. What was consuming my battery? I turned off GPS, bluetooth and wifi. Opened task manager and killed all running apps. Also disabled all background data and sync before i went to bed!
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
Do exactly the same tonight... but this time try switching the phone off and back on, then kill any non-eesential apps as the last thing you do before you retire for the evening!.. let us know what effect that has.