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[Nexus One Accessories] logger:
Hi ajayendra, not for a minute trying to deny all the issue you are seeing. However I do question some of your conclusions.

Disconnect the power lead from the dock at the attach point and plug it directly into your phone. My bet is your phone will still get hot when otherwise used in the same manner. Therefore it is not the Dock but the Charger that is the culprit here. The dock is only passing the current on.

As it happens I am one of the lucky ones and my phone does not get particularly hot when in the dock. This leads me to suspect the issue is more to do with dock charger + car integration. Hypothetically, HOT users could have car power outlets that put out 13.5V and COLD users car outlets might only be putting out 12V. Be interesting to see if there is any relationship between the vehicle used and the reports of HOT phones. For the record I have 2009 VW Golf.

Have you tried tapping on, Settings > Bluetooth Settings > Bluetooth Devices > [Nexus One Car Dock (paired but not connected)] ?

I have placed a shortcut to Bluetooth settings on my home screen for this, although I mainly use it to connect the Desk Dock that I also use in my car. Incidentally the Desk Dock does not auto connect when the Car Dock is already in use but this is understandable.

Only time I see BT connection drop is if I cycle the dock power when stop starting the car (IGN off/on) when it is in the cradle. Apart form this I find the BT bulletproof and I never lose the connection.

Stabilize hey. Did you try just hitting the power button twice? Once to cycle the screen off then again to bring it back on again. Might help. OTOH I do not see this issue at all and perhaps the same for others. This is probably why there has been scant previous mention.

Yep

Yeah this is annoying. I have placed a shortcut to sounds and display setting on a home screen. Better still I use the Setting Profiles app to detect the phone docking in the cradle and have it set volume as I like it and getrid of vibration.

I find the Mic is weak for doing a voice search, but excellent for Calls and recording sound. Some movies I have taken while driving attest to this. The sound clarity as recorded my the Mic/s is excellent ......

I don't think swapping your Car Dock as faulty is going to fix things for you unfortunately. Interesting how peoples mileage with this thing varies though isnt it . I am very happy with mine.
[Nexus One Accessories] ajayendra:
Ongoing discussion on Car Dock Problems

Excellent point! I used a good voltmeter and connected to my car 12v out. It’s a 04 Audi A6. With car not started it gave 12.2volts and when started it gave out 13.55volts. However, then I researched more and figured out that lot of cars are doing this. Again, nothing against Google, but I believe, they should design these based on a general rule and not for something just for 12volts. Glad you got lucky. But I am not gonna buy another car for making the dock work cooler…ha ha…just kidding!

I did call HTC and expecting a replacement next week. Will tell more how its working. And to answer your question, I did do the setting thing. But really, I do not want to do this while driving. 

Tried it, no success :(

The voice on the other side is great. I can hear other people okay too. What I am saying is the voice recognition does not pick voices properly when driving.

Well I will know better when I have the replacement.

Again Thanks a lot for your detailed reply!
[Nexus One Accessories] clustered:
Does anyone got USB Port in car? Just would like to know does it get hot too like plug in cigarette charger? thx
[Nexus One Accessories] teh_lorax:
I just got my Car Dock replaced. During the swapout I also moved over to FroYo RC. This morning was my first test. My phone didn't get hot AT ALL. That lead me to believe that either it was Cyan 5.0.6 or a bad dock.

That doesn't line up with what you saw, but I thought I'd leave some input.

THIS is why I returned the dock. Since I'd seen almost no mention of this problem on these forums or anywhere else, I thought my dock must be bad. Again, today was my first morning, and the screen did not become unresponsive once. Could it be related to #1, the heat issue?

The Dock replacement couldn't have been easier with HTC. It was a rare WONDERFUL customer service experience. To boot, I even spoke with someone in US. Crazy, I know. It will take a few days for me to confirm, but I *think* the dock replacement may have fixed my issue.
[Nexus One Accessories] DDM123:
I just got my car dock last week and have only used Froyo RC on it, and it did get very hot. I was using Trapster as well as Nav (Sat imagery), so take from that what you will.
[Nexus One Accessories] Devastatin:
Was your phone fully charged when you did the test?

Try it out with your phone below 50% and let me know how hot it gets while running GPS and screen and whatnot.
[Nexus One Accessories] teh_lorax:
An update to this...

When I drive into work, I drive away from the sun. When I drive home, I drive into the sun. Well, driving home yesterday, my phone got pretty hot. The screen also became unresponsive. Apparently, the problem wasn't a bad car dock. Or Cyanogen. =/

Driving into work this morning (remember, away from the sun), the phone never got hot. It also never became unresponsive.

For whoever asked, my battery is usually between 50-80%. After this morning's charge on my way in, its at 87%.
[Nexus One Accessories] poody:
Hate to break it to you, but every car you find is going to do this, unless you've got a 6 volt car. Also all car chargers are designed to work from 9-14 volts. 9 volts because that'swhat the voltage drops to when the engine cranks, and 14 volts because that's above what the battery charges at. Also I'm sure google had no part in designing the car charger, they just sourced a standard off the shelf part.
[Nexus One Accessories] logger:
No need for the sarcasm.

Fairly obvious to most of us that the lighter socket output will be different during current drain of engine start to when the engine is running.

Got any bright ideas why some users report their N1 as getting very HOT on car charge whilst others do not? Seems to me with all other things being equal, the car hooked onto the other end could be a variable.
[Nexus One Accessories] disgustip8ted:
or temperature outside and the sun directly hitting it through the windshield

with nav running along with streaming music.....
[Nexus One Accessories] poody:
Well the car voltage will be a variable, even two cars of the same model and year will run at different voltages. The point I was trying to make was the car charger will take any voltage from 9v to 14v and drop it to 5v.

As for the heat issue, all I can say is my g1 always got hot when charging and using the radio a lot. It could just be a design flaw that got changed, or a defect in some N1s, defective car chargers or any number of things. Without doing a really in depth census of people with and without the issue there's really no way to pinpoint what the cause is.
[Nexus One Accessories] stewart1988:
Has anyone in the UK ordered a car dock?

I want one but I wanted to know if anyone has ordered off the google site and how much the total price was...

Thanks
[Nexus One Accessories] ajayendra:
Ongoing discussion ...contd.

Please see my posts in last page and comments related to those in this page as well.

I asked HTC for a car dock replacement, they did a good job of listening but messed up in supply chain which delayed the shipment by a week. Funny this happened to me earlier, but nevermind.

First thing, since my car gives out 12v when idle and 13.55 when started, I started charging my phone when car was idle, the phone still got hot. Also, then "sun" factor was not there since my car was in garage. So, I concluded that there is something wrong somewhere, maybe charger, maybe phone.

Bluetooth: The replacement dock DID NOT fix the problem. Not with CM 5.0.6, not with Froyo. Still loosing connection. Grrrr...This was so bad, I connected my phone to Motorola T505 and had better results.

While driving with navigation while phone charging on the dock, phone got extremely HOT. Didn't know what was wrong.

Silverlining: Screen responsiveness issue went away as I pressed the power button to sleep and then unsleep to fix the issue. Just toggled the power button. :) Thanks Logger!!

However, someone pointed out there could be some problems with phone as well but I think that is a rare possibility. Still, this is the craziest thing I did. Since my phone is bootloader unlocked, I craiglisted and sold it and order a brand new att version. Will get it Tuesday and report back Wednesday. Seems like Google should pay me for doing their QA part :).

Hopefully I can get the functionality from the phone what Google desined for.
[Nexus One Accessories] johnnie93:
I might get it for my desk :D
[Nexus One Accessories] logger:
Why not. Perfect if you are near a window in your office.

I use the Desk dock in my car. Go figure :D
[Nexus One Accessories] teh_lorax:
If that fixes it, then what the heck is going on?
[Nexus One Accessories] ajayendra:
Care to read the complete post?...I am talking about a list of problems being faced on the dock+phone integration. One problem (screen responsiveness) looked to have a get-around.
[Nexus One Accessories] teh_lorax:
Uhhh, I get that there is a work around sir. My question is why that work around works?

Did that make more sense for you?
[Nexus One Accessories] Devastatin:
Turn off the screen in the car when your not actively using the phone and the phone will have a harder time overheating.

Also, a fully charged phone is less prone to overheating that a 60% or less charged phone.
[Nexus One Accessories] ajayendra:
Sorry, I think I didn't understand your comment but to answer your question, no I don't know what happens.
[Nexus One Accessories] milomak:
if i can get an affordable shipping method to south africa i think i will pick up one of these
[Nexus One Accessories] pnayak77:
I have a relative travelling from US to UK, so might order a dock for them to bring, depending on cost.

Can anyone tell me what the cheapest option Google offers to ship to a US address? Whatever I do I only get the shippping cost to the UK of USD29.99.

Are there any differences in US car power adaptors/supplies?

Any other concerns I should have purchasing this way?

Cheers
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Nope.. You should be good. Ground shipping is free in the U.S.
[Nexus One Accessories] pnayak77:
Ground shipping is free!?

UK buyer are getting stung, the shipping costs are the main reason I havent bought the dock. When I bricked the Nexus One and had it replaced it went to a repair centre in Ireland and a brand new handset was returned to me FOC. Probably a repair centre but they must have stock of all lines, why cant HTC/Google ship from Ireland to UK/Europe and reduce the shipping costs. Rant over.

Thanks for the reply uansari1
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Yep.. well they're being shipped from the U.S., so I can see why you wouldn't have the option of free shipping there.
[Nexus One Accessories] teh_lorax:
But turning the screen off and on has no effect on the temperature level. Yet it somehow 'fixes' the issue...
[Nexus One Accessories] CentralMoNexusOne:
Is it possible to unravel/straighten out the corded part of the charger? I'd like to find a way to snake it through the trim in my dash and have it come out in a desired location. Mainly so it's not always in the way.
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
So is pretty much everyone still of the opinion that this is a good accessory for our phone? Thinking about ordering one soon...
[Nexus One Accessories] disgustip8ted:
i dont know what i would do without it.
[Nexus One Accessories] xevilutionx:
just got one recently .. definitely feels more solid than those cheap $5 ones from china I was originally using ... my invisible shield does tend to get in the way at times ... but i really like how everything is so neat (like the power cable connecting to the base of the dock) ...only problem for me is the inconvenience of plugging in to a charger .. i had to buy a belkin usb socket for my cigarette adaptor .. since Nissan decided to put the cigarette adaptor in my car right next to the steering wheel and right under the wipers stalk ...

i can even now stream music since my car has no aux/ipod/bluetooth a2dp .. and play it over the speaker ... doesnt sound too bad!

its a great product overall ...
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Well that's good enough for me.. I'll order one shortly. Thanks gents.

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One Accessories] AndrewM56:
$80 from ebay and google wont ship it to Canada :(

anyone in Canada know of cheaper alternative?
[Nexus One Accessories] KnightMAREcrow:
Yes, you caan have phone audio still routed thru the car dock speaker phone, just enable in settings
[Nexus One Accessories] InGeNeTiCs:
WTF - desktop dock has a 3.5mm out and the car dock doesn't? That's lame. I want the 3.5mm in a car dock but it doesn't have it, the desktop dock has it but I don't need it. Would it really be that hard to have given them the same features?!?
[Nexus One Accessories] KnightMAREcrow:
The 3.5 mm jack is not obstructed by the car dock so it can still be used as normal, no big deal and not at all a short fall of the dock itself. Saved money not having to put one in it if the one for the phone is clearly visible and usable.
[Nexus One Accessories] krumb:
it's really just a difference of the length of the phone...with regards to having a 3.5 on the dock vs using the 3.5 on the phone. i look at it this way - if you're using the 3.5, you're probably going to have wires hanging around anyways. i strategically placed my dock in an area where i have the ability to hide the dock charger and then can plug/unplug the 3.5 as needed.

i'm not fully understanding the need for a 3.5 on the base/dock.
[Nexus One Accessories] martin0285:
takes a bunch guys..I appreciate u checking it out!! so excited to get mine tomorrow now!!!

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One Accessories] jz9833:
ok yall convinced me, im buying it
[Nexus One Accessories] jdscully:
I think it would be easier if it was on the dock, you could just dock the phone and you are good to go (charging and audio). I would assume though if you did that, you would then have to connect it via bluetooth and would be unable to use a headset. For me this setup will work, it has convinced me to order it at least.
[Nexus One Accessories] Rick7C2:
Now hopefully seidio makes a car dock with the same or better features for use with there extended battery. :)
[Nexus One Accessories] UD`:
How well does the car charger work? I have a 3rd Party Car Charger that seems to fail at charging the device while its in use (such as running navigation) just like charging through USB on a PC. It actually looses charge slowly :(

So does this car dock actually charge it while you are navigating..listening to music..etc. ?
[Nexus One Accessories] deprecate:
I'm assuming that since this is not 3rd party, your problem won't be present. If nobody else can confirm for you, I will when mine arrives.
[Nexus One Accessories] wickeddeus:
If only it would work with my Seidio Innocase II.
[Nexus One Accessories] krumb:
yea, my only real complaint here. i can't complain, really...I bought the case...luckily, i have a case that is easily removed/put-on.
[Nexus One Accessories] soloxp:
man this is going to work great with my carpc. :D
[Nexus One Accessories] karnovaran:
Having a 3.5mm jack on the dock means you wouldn't have to manually plug and unplug the the cable every time you dock. That feature would push me to replace my current holder for this, but without it I'm not sure it's worth upgrading.
[Nexus One Accessories] Henchman:
Yeah, I'm not really seung any need for this.

Already have my audio going through the 3.5 mm from the phone to aux input on car stereo.

The navigation plays through it, while Bluetooth is used for calls.

No justification to spend $55 on this.
[Nexus One Accessories] krumb:
a matter of preference. i don't mind plugging the 3.5 into the phone each time it's docked vs not having it plugged in at all time...not a deal breaker for me. 'specially considering i have multiple mp3 players that at any time could be plugged in for use.
[Nexus One Accessories] gIMpSTa:
Seems like people are mis-reading the product info or something. It nowhere states it's designed to play audio through your car stereo, it just might not be for you.

For $55.00, try to find a blue tooth headset (this has built in hands free mic/speaker), car charger, and a "dock" to mount your phone on your windshield. Sure, you may come in under $55.00 if you skimp on all 3, but if you want quality parts that combine this into 1 unit, buy this. If you want it solely to play music over your car stereo, stick to 3.5 mm wire or get a headunit with bluetooth.

/my $.02
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
I received mine also. I did a video of it. It's processing right now and then I'll upload to YouTube. The dock is awesome and my phone still works great with my bluetooth car kit.
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
Here is a quick pic of it set up in the car:
[Nexus One Accessories] krumb:
Looks sharp, URPREY.
[Nexus One Accessories] karnovaran:
No misreading here. I was just hoping it would have the optional 3.5mm jack, as we've already seen Google include that on the desktop dock.
[Nexus One Accessories] aleitry:
very quick question for folks like me who:

- connect their n1 headphone jack to the aux-in line in their car with a wire; and

- do not use bluetooth technology (headset or dash-unit)

Q: what setting option do you choose in the dock settings page such that the navigation lady voice plays out of the dock's grill speakers while music is fed out through the headphone jack?

many thanks.
[Nexus One Accessories] mrxniick:
My car stereo has a USB port which I use to mount the SD card and play music from. It shows artist/ track information and I can control the music from my stereo (it also charges it). Will I be able to plug the car dock into my stereo and retain the same functionality?
[Nexus One Accessories] AndyBurns:
The PDF instruction sheet says the USB connector on the car dock (the same with the desk dock actually) is for power connections only, and must not be used with anything that expects a data connection - so no.
[Nexus One Accessories] Henchman:
My first question would be, how good is the incar audio.
[Nexus One Accessories] crajoh:
Has anyone who is using a full body skin tried it in the car dock yet. I got a cheapy windscreen mount a little while back and when I put the phone in that it messes up the skin.

Just wondering if the same will happen with this one?
[Nexus One Accessories] AndyBurns:
I take it you choose

not

to use the dock for bluetooth audio when prompted on first connecting it? So nothing is using the mic/speaker in the dock, just using your car's bluetooth handsfree?
[Nexus One Accessories] mrxniick:
Damn.. then its a no-go for me =(
[Nexus One Accessories] AndyBurns:
But then you have to dock and separately plug the audio, which is missing the point of docking, the cost of a 3.5mm socket is irrelevant compared to incorporating the bluetooth chipset, speakers and mic.
[Nexus One Accessories] eli1981:
got 2 questions:

1) Is this mic hole on the dock, just a hole or a microphone amplifier?

2) Does the other party you have a conversation with can hear you clearly enough with lets say regular noise and volume of speech?

thanks ahead
[Nexus One Accessories] KnightMAREcrow:
All costs that go into a product are relevant.

This was a decision made to lower the overall total cost. If the dock was supplied with an audio out jack then u would plug in from there. Since its not your still going to have to plug in, just at a different port. I'm not understanding the headache that is accompanying the product layout.

Either way you would have an additional plug to input. Where is the real gripe coming from...

I guess its just a matter of preference rather than a real nuisance.
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
Correct. You can choose either of two options: Speakerphone audio and music/entertainment.

My video is uploading now - I show that part. I will probably try each option separately to see if the dock's speakerphone works well.
[Nexus One Accessories] uhohhotdog:
I would also like to know this...anyone know?
[Nexus One Accessories] Joyrex:
Thinking about taking a chance with a cheapo bluetooth fm transmitter to play music rather then having to drop money on a new bluetooth headunit..

This is one i found so far for 18 bucks

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23558
[Nexus One Accessories] logger:
Looks REALLY neat Uprey. I assume you have applied the adhesive base to your dashboard as an attach point. Do you have any concerns about removing it when you come to sell your car. I note the instruction say "use care the disc is not removable". Or is this statement just warning that you have one shot at positioning it. Removing it will bugger up the adhesive preventing re affixing, but not bugger up and mark your dash? Thnx..
[Nexus One Accessories] tropmonky:
I'm thinking of trying it with this device http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluet.../dp/B002RKLWJO and not sync the phone to the dock, but sync the phone to this bluetooth device that's plugged into my cars AUX input???

If so, I'm SOLD!
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
There doesn't appear to be a way to do this. I tried.
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
I have modified a vent to mount the disc. It IS removable; it just has 3M double-sided tape on it. You could apply more tape and reuse the disc again.
[Nexus One Accessories] URPREY:
Here is my YouTube video of the car dock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH-91CzNGAY

It's still processing so the video quality will improve.
[Nexus One Accessories] daveknights:
I believe that device is only used to send audio to a headset or something. I doubt it will receive audio from your phone and put it into your cars aux. You are looking for something like this http://www.amazon.com/Miccus-BluBri...ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1270775527&sr=8-1-spell
[Nexus One Accessories] tropmonky:
you are correct daveknights! thanks for seeing that....
[Nexus One Accessories] aleitry:
thx for checking. guess navigation lady is considered media audio. no big whoop.
[Nexus One Accessories] martin0285:
i'm sure given a certain amount of time.....simple things like this will get worked out....the dev's around here an the best around... If theres talk about a needed feature and theres no hardware restriction....Someone will spend the time to figure it out. I'm sure someone will add more settings to the dock menu once they have the time to hack it up!!
[Nexus One Accessories] RussianSolja:
The one question i have yet to see. WAS IT WORTH THE MONEY? i spent $70.77 for this dock. NYC Tax thats why it cost me so much. But was it worth every penny is what i want to know. :) i should have it in the mail tomorrow BTW very excited :P
[Nexus One Accessories] AndyBurns:
Plugging in once vs plugging in every time, that is the POINT of a dock to me.
[Nexus One Accessories] chaval:
Krump or anyone, how does the N1 fit in the dock, is it tight?

I want to use it with an Invisible shield and I wonder if it will fit.

Txh in advance!
[Nexus One Accessories] martin0285:
As i've stated before, we can go on about what the dock "should" have for weeks. Bottom line, it has what it has. If you don't like it, don't buy it!! EASY!!

just my .02cents again cuz ppl need to stop spamming this thread with "well it should this, it should that". IT DOESN'T!! GET OVER IT!!!

Can not wait to get mine today!! So excited to use dock for phonecalls and such while still using line-out for car stereo!!
[Nexus One Accessories] AndyBurns:
It's quite likely I'll still buy one, for the covenience of charging and being able to see who's calling when I'm driving ... I'll also investigate the possibility of adding my own 3.5mm jack :D
[Nexus One Accessories] Devastatin:
I have a liftable center console with a power jack inside. I think I'm going to use these two inside that small compartment to get my car to turn into bluetooth with the least cost.

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