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[HD2 General] mystik610:
Sorry to hear that.

Windows Mobile has never been known as an OS that works perfectly out of the box. This is accentuated further by all the resource hogging crap t-mobile loads on the phone before it ends up in your hands. Flashing the ROM certainly helps things run smoother IMO.

I don't think flashing ROMS is too difficult....no harder than updating the official firmware on my iPhone....Its really just a matter of downloading a few files, syncing up your phone, and running a piece of software. Done.

Jailbreaking an iPhone.....now that is a tough job.
[HD2 General] quasi_mojo:
ahh! ok, ;)
[HD2 General] fallenmonk:
I Have had mine a week and the device,especialy loading web pages is sooo slow. My orbit2 is much faster and user friendly. I am even considering switching back to it. So much for snapdragon.
[HD2 General] agentaaron:
Sorry to hear about the problems you are having...

...I on the other hand am loving my TmoUS HD2. I got mine 9:00am on release day as well and have had zero problems that were not easily fixed.

(The 2nd or 3rd day...I wcould not access the internet....although I did have data...wierd, but that was fixed simply by changing the APN)

My phone is crazy quick (stock ROM and radio / cookies home tab / and a few other simple mods) and I have yet to have a single crash (my rooted android phones...G1, MT3G, and my N1 crash all the flippin time...yet they bash winmo for this).

anyhow...again im sorry...just wish you would give it a bit more time (though I understand that you probably want to make it within the 14 day return period :(
[HD2 General] np231:
Stock Rom user with no problems

I don't understand what the original post is complaining about?

I use the stock rom on the HD2 and I still haven't encountered a single problem...

If you don't understand how the phone functions then you will have problems because of your own mistakes... learn about the phone before you buy it...

Unlike the iPhone.. this is not a toy for kids to play with .. you have to know what the heck you are running on the phone and what applications are open .. anyways I don't want to make this a tutorial post...

All I can say is that know the phone before buying it...mine works perfectly fine with stock rom because I manage opened applications properly...
[HD2 General] vplaza96:
Sorry to hear. I've had mine since release day and loving every minute of it. I have had none of the major issues that people have complained about. Even so, I flashed my ROM to Kumar's Premium 1.5 and it runs even better on it.

The ONLY thing that I know was an issue for me was the HTC/Sense messaging app. If I happen to open that to read or write a message, my phone would start lagging and eventually, freeze up. But if I stayed out of it, the phone ran like a champ. So, I've simply disabled the HTC/Sense messaging and use the Windows text messaging app instead, and so far, so good.

I'm waiting for Kumar to come out with his Titanium ROM so I can try the device without HTC/Sense at all and maybe even try out the SPB Mobile Shell on it. This phone has a TON of potential, but alas, you do have to want to tinker with it to get it to sing the song you want it to sing.

This is one of the reasons I love the HD2 with WinMo. I'm not locked into how the manfacturer or carrier wants the phone to work or look like. There are great chefs here who have really good ideas on how to make a WinMo device run.

In any case, the phone is definitely not for everyone.
[HD2 General] mn3kgtvr4:
Yeah, I gotta say though even out of the box to a total winmo noob this stock rom is very solid. I haven't even bothered to flash yet, just did some registry tweaks that sped up sense a bit, really no problems crashing/freezing and that is with 9k contacts and many games added. A LOT probably comes down to tmo service if changing carriers to get the phone for some people. In my area, though, tmo is slightly better than att and cheaper.
[HD2 General] toreone:
Mine rocks!

I have had my HD2 for about a week now and everyday I LOVE IT MORE! Seriously I was coming from a Wing so I guess I had a little experience with winmo phones. I am using it straight out of the box with a few games added. A lot of music and a few movies. Only thing I have done to it was cookies home tab + editor and a reset app. :D Best phone I have ever seen thus far! Obviously there are things that you need to get used to...but for me its worth the effort!
[HD2 General] ITZAWORK:
No offense bro, but dont talk to me like Im a child. This has nothing to do with me trying to "play games with a toy" (even though TMoUSA does market the thing as "entertainment on the go"). When the damn thing doesn't come out of sleep mode without pushing the button 30 times, there is a problem, when I have to slide to unlock back and forth, back and forth for long periods of time before it will unlock, there is a problem, when the HTC Sense refuses to load mins after restarting, there is a problem. I am very aware of of what is open and how to close them (on a mind numbing constant basis mind you). I don't see how you can arrogantly assume this is all in human error and not the machine's. Please explain to me how I am supposed to be "aware" of what I'm doing, when the damn thing barely turns on?

I came on here to express that I was upset that I was forced to return the phone, not to be talked to like I was an idiot...I apologize that we all cant be so high in your IQ group that we actually need something we pay a lot of money for to work properly (without having to worry about putting it in direct sunlight and feeding it after midnight)

I am ecstatic for you that you have not experienced any problems with your device, I wish I was that lucky. All I am saying, is that I wanted to love the phone...but... it simply wouldn't work (TWICE). I did not install any 3rd party apps, I did not alter anything in any way, I always killed the tasks almost immediately after finishing with them (the proper way with the task manager).

So is this my human error? Please tell me oh great one...since I obviously do not have your intellect.
[HD2 General] wiggindude:
I can't stand people like np231. I had to return mine also, the phone lags and going to MUSIC caused it to freeze, scrolling through the album arts is not as smooth as on the iPhone. This is supposedly the 'entaintainment' device that Tmo claims and it can't do the simple things right.
[HD2 General] phinphan:
I returned mine also. I bought it on day 1 and used it for almost 2 weeks. The biggest factors for me were the lack of a physical keyboard, terrible battery life and the total abandonment of 6.5 by MS and developers. I also hated the capacitance screen. I went back to my TMO TP2. While at the store I used my upgrade and bought my daughter a Cliq XT.

The HD2 has a beautiful screen but the screen was not big enough for me to type with reasonable speed and accuracy compared to the TP2 keyboard. It was also very susceptible to pocket dialing. When HTC comes out with an android with a decent keyboard I will probably try that.
[HD2 General] c_legaspi:
guy did come out and sounded like an ......

sorry to hear that you are having trouble with your phone. i was considering one but i would like to us at&t. t-mobile is cheaper than the telstra and tempting to buy. i have a sony xperia x1a on a at&t prepaid and it works great and i think they have the best prepaid, data plan. i rarely ever get any calls and so this is my be solution for me.
[HD2 General] jasonziter:
Think twice about your decision.

I had a lot of the same problems you are experiencing. Thanks to the brains in these forums I have pimped the heck out of my HD2 and my release day excitement has returned. If you want to know how to flash the rom / hack the phone, drop me a line. I can give you the straight forward dumbed down version. I may even write a noob's FAQ that's a little less intimidating than the jumbly ones in here. It's really much easier than it seems. All the posts in these forums can tend to be a bit overwhelming. I am a former iPhone 3g user. I learned how to unlock and jailbreak my phone. That was a chore!! This is much easier. Its no different than owning a Windows PC. Out of the box there is a bunch of crap the company pre-installs on your computer. You just have to learn how to tweak a bit. Don't be intimidated by the brains in here. They are really quite helpful. Now, If we can just figure out how to get Adobe Flash 10 to work on our phones. That would be sweet. :D

-JZ
[HD2 General] MadLinx:
too bad you had such issues. the Hardware on this phone does make it the best on the market. while it's true that things should work perfectly out of the box, life isn't always as it should be.

it's understandable to be frustrated when you pay this amount of $$$ for a phone, but with some research & time you can completely customize this phone like none other.
[HD2 General] poetryrocksalot:
that's exactly the only problem that I had with my bro's Tmobile HD2. The touch screen keyboard is even worst than the iPhone because of my small fingers and hands. Even worst, the battery is so small, and the OS needs to be developed more than what it is now.

All of this agreed aside from the capacitive screen.

P.S. I think the keyboard sucks not because the screen is small but because you don't have a good physical keyboard like the Touch Pro2.
[HD2 General] starstreak:
I tride my friends iphone. The keyboard works just as good as his. It is different for the layout, so maybe that is why you dont like it.

And for those that blame WM for everything. It ain't because of that. If it was, I would have all the issues he has and I don't. Most of the problems I have is either something I didn't know about the new software, or something I added.

Battery life is on par with phones like this. Another friend ownes a Android One. Battery last about a day or so. My old Touch Pro lasted just as long.
[HD2 General] dailydriver:
mines also on stock rom sand it runs flawlessly. im loving it everyday. also the swype keyboard is awesome. I can't go 10 minutes without liking at it.
[HD2 General] jasonziter:
Grammar and how it will help you with your phone.

Here is an idea. Do us all a favor and, if you expect to be taken seriously, try and use proper English. This is a English language site. Win Mo is written in English. If your grasp of the English language is lacking, it might make it difficult for us to COMMUNICATE with you. Also, those of you who are having sooooooo many problems. Just go back to your iPhone or go and pick one up. It has its fair share of problems, but fortunately for you its as easy to use as a set of Lincoln logs or Legos. Therefore, you should be much more stress free on one of those things. I gave mine away because I felt it was way too limiting, kind of like Macs in general. Overpriced and shiny with limited functionality. Good luck. Try a custom ROM that fixes all the garbge that should never have needed fixing. Problem is, the ROM's are also written in ENGLISH and so are the FAQ's. Once I flashed my ROM, my phone FLAT OUT BLOWS THE IPHONE OUT OF THE WATER. No joke.

-JZ
[HD2 General] Snarksneeze:
Yeah, I wonder if the Mods are gonna say anything about your "English" rant.

Most of the chefs I follow on here and some of the mods are not native-english speakers and we really appreciate their input.
[HD2 General] Snarksneeze:
I've had my HD2 (1024Leo) for two days, not really long enough to determine if I have any long-term issues, but...

I love this interface! It's been flashed onto my TP2 for a few weeks, so I had some time to acclimatize myself to it before hand.

I've had quite a few issues where my big fat fingers couldn't hit the tiny links, such as on the Connections screen. Using BsB Tweaks though, you can add the "Pinch to Zoom" functionality to various apps. I expect this issue to clear up once Microsoft has had a chance to build an OS with native Capacitive Touch support. In the meantime, we should be thankful for the little bit we do have ;)

I've had zero connectivity issues on the stock ROM. It handles all incoming SMS and MMS as well as any custom ROM I've had in the past. I don't use mobile email, since I have my gmail forward messages to my phone's email addy (xxx-xxx-xxxx@tmomail.net), so I can't speak to any issues there. Maybe I'll tie it to my quiet little hotmail account later though...
[HD2 General] jasonziter:
You obviously dont understand the obvious.

It doesn't matter if the chefs native language is english or not. These forums are. So my point is....dont go to Mexico and expect everyone to speak English. Learn the language and dont expect others to try and decipher you.

Thats all man. Its not a poke at anyone. Read the forum rules. Even the formal forum rules state:

1. Use proper English / Grammar.

No need to get all offended at the OBVIOUS MAN. Just agree and move on. I mean seriously. Read the 5 post prior to mine. They are BARELY readable, much less do they make any sense. Don't be some crazy who disagrees just for the sake of disagreeing even though you know Im right.
[HD2 General] fhaines:
HD2

My HD2's data radio seems to be very good at pulling in 3G. I can put my HD2 and my Cliq on the table side by side and the HD2 pulls up 3G where the Cliq is in Edge. I dont know if its the actual radio set or the antenna, but either way its good!

fhaines
[Desire General] joen_ii:
I have had my lovely Desire since Thursday. First time using an Android phone and I love it.

One thing I have noticed is that my yahoo and hotmail accounts are not syncing the 'marked as read'. I have read the emails on the phone, but when I look at the mail on my laptop its still unread. Anyone had any simular issues?
[Desire General] hungabunga:
try seven beta http://community.seven.com/main.php the problem you are having is that you have a pop connection to hotmail. So the phone keeps a copy of the emails rather than the push email which will understand read flags etc.

Sully
[Desire General] lumpaywk:
tbh your best bet is to do what i did and have your hotmail forwarded to a gmail account and use that gmail is much better and you can even get it to send as the hotmail addy. Also being a google phone it works a treat.
[HD2 General] jenkemfr:
you didnt hear it from me, but t-mobile is updating towers which effects your data connection,although CS wont tell you this.But this is the root of the data connection problems,nothing more...
[HD2 General] srgntdvs:
when will it be done? im very frustrated by it.
[HD2 General] tmacgarris6727:
how do know this
[Nexus One General] fixxxer2008:
i want to upgrade to the N1 when it hits sprint, i hope soon?

anyways im hearing the phone itself won't be in sprint stores and you cannot get it serviced at sprint either. you have to buy it online from google and send it in for repairs, is this true? if soo i smell a BIG fail coming. will the phone even be branded with a sprint logo at all? :confused:
[Nexus One General] tmidle8575:
Why is this posted in the HERO forum?
[Nexus One General] subliminalurge:
That sounds consistent with how the N1 has been sold so far, as far as I know.
[Nexus One General] bmxrider4444:
Well that has been their trend so far with the other carriers, so it's very possible, but it's kind of to early to tell art this point
[Nexus One General] Is_907:
That's Google's new method--buy from google.com/phone and don't worry about anything else.

Who cares if it's Sprint branded? As long as it's considered an upgrade you'll get your nice price.
[Nexus One General] agentofboom:
That would be great if you got an N1. :p
[Nexus One General] subliminalurge:
Well, the problem is that since you bought it from google.com, when you have problems and call Sprint for help, they can say "You have to call Google."

Of course, Google doesn't seem to have any publicly available phone numbers for you to call, so you're stuck with their worthless message boards...

Plus, if the actual hardware craps out, you can't walk into a Sprint store and get it replaced the same afternoon, you have to deal with shipping in two directions and be without a phone for a week....

Or at least that seems to be the major complaint about the N1 currently on the market....
[Nexus One General] duplissi:
just wait for the evo 4g, its got better specs then the nexus and a bigger screen,
[Nexus One General] regaw_leinad:
No, just wait even more, pre 2011, dual core Snapdragon 1.5ghz phones running android will be out. If you buy the Evo, you'll wish you had waited lol
[Nexus One General] fixxxer2008:
i have no 4g here in michigan plus i don't like the design.
[Nexus One General] fixxxer2008:
what does that mean? if it's about before please give it a rest already!

id like to keep this thread clean and on topic. i put this here because alot of users will be leaving the hero when the n1 & evo come out. ;)
[Nexus One General] bob2300nx:
I LOLed in real life
[Nexus One General] fixxxer2008:
i just think the idea of going without a phone while it's in for repairs is stupid when there are local sprint repair centers. i don't see this going over well with sprint customers if they follow past suit.
[Nexus One General] mercuryhayes:
if you pay 69.99+ with sprint, you can get the full upgrade every 365 days so by the time that all happens, you can get a DC snapdragon 1.5 right around the corner and still have an EVO
[Nexus One General] jvermillion:
Sprint customers whine too damn much anyway.
[Nexus One General] Roman G:
Yes I would have to agree:D
[Nexus One General] thematrixkid17:
Hang on to your hero then. I still have every phone in my sig as a backup. I'm glad that google is doing SOMETHING to shake up the status quo a bit. Remember if you buy phones that are sold and supported by sprint, you'll have to wait on sprint for things like android 2.1, just like we're doing now. If google is able to get sprint (and other us carriers) to budge from their traditional phone-tied-to-carrier model, it'll just put us one step closer to breaking the wireless phone oligopoly.

Many years ago, you had to buy your land line telephones from your land line provider. They were sold and supported there, and they had very high costs. Then over time, that changed and people bought phones that weren't branded by their carrier. (or supported by them either, omg!). I'm sure it was a very scary time, but think about how ridiculous that sounds today.
[Nexus One General] fixxxer2008:
yeah, yeah...well ill make sure when i get it i come back to bug you some more. :D
[Nexus One General] smoother2010:
Fix, i have no idea what will happen when the N1 launches? Im torn between the N1 and the EVO. :confused:

My god people, let the past go. he has the right to start a thread. Just like children around here sometimes. It's getting old already.
[Nexus One General] Roman G:
Ah, I am just flicking ya ****!

I am not real impressed with the way they have handled their phone either!

I do agree with this above, things like this tend to change the way company's think!

Roman
[Nexus One General] gu1dry:
You can call Google for tech support with the N1; link...

Um, the iPhone has been like that for the last 3yrs & it's not a huge issue...
[Nexus One General] smoother2010:
Well if sprint will activate this phone then i wish they would allow the droid, id hop on that in a heartbeat. :D
[Nexus One General] smoother2010:
The I-what?

You mean I-****? ;)
[Nexus One General] azfxstb:
WRONG

http://www.htc.com/www/support/nexusone/
[Nexus One General] thematrixkid17:
You're right, they have no experience with individual customer support. But on a forum like this, I have a feeling that a good bit of us don't care too much because we can deal with things on our own. If I get more dust under my screen, I'm not taking it back for some kid to take apart at the sprint store. I trust myself a lot more. (not to mention I have fun taking things apart)
[Nexus One General] gu1dry:
I'm just pointing that with these major specialized smartphones, this not uncommon.
[Nexus One General] thematrixkid17:
I understand that a lot of people disagree with apple's business practices, but you can't deny that they made a phone which leads the market in usability. How many times have you been in the android market reading the comments on a widget and have seen "WONT LAUNCH???? JUNK DOESN'T WORK!!!" over and over again because people don't understand how the phone and applications work. Phone choice is subjective.
[Nexus One General] tatonka_hero:
and how many times have you seen comments on the market like "ADS! Remove the ads or I'll never use your apps again!" (what I'm saying is take those comments with a grain of salt, because so many of them are beyond stupid)
[Nexus One General] thematrixkid17:
lol I quit using chomp when they plastered it with ads....:D
[Nexus One General] illogic6:
Buy equipment insurance. The N1 is covered through T-Mobile's equipment insurance program. I doubt it'll be any different through Sprint. Just pray they have an N1 available to replace your phone with.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] jadesdan:
I've used adb push (to change my boot animation) but I can't say I know how to use it.

Can you specify which commands to use?

EDIT: do you have to have root for this?
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] wshuman3:
Yes you have to have root. You would do 'adb install HtcLockScreen.apk'.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] gohamstergo:
waahhh no X_X this isn't an app to be installed. you are overwritting the old one (after youve backed up!) the "install" command installs to data/app, which isn't what we want (but thanks for keepin an eye on the thread for me wshuman3 :) )

if you put the apk in your sdk\tools directory, then the command would be

adb push HtcLockScreen.apk system/app

you were correct about needing root tho ;)
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Lemcott:
oh sweet!

one question though, what if your phone is locked? will it still show the homescreen?
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] ECLIPS3:
please read the first post again before you post. your question is answered in both the thread title as well as the second line.

thanks!
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Lemcott:
no no no... okay I admit, i worded that question wrong.

if you phone is password protected, as in locked down, with the graphical password and all that. will it still show the homescreen?
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] ECLIPS3:
i believe it should still show you the home screen, considering with the normal lock app by htc in order to unlock it with the dot pattern, you have to pull the slider down, then it shows you the pattern. so going off of that, then it should still do the same thing, but instead of showing a pic on the lock screen, it shows the home screen, then you slide it down to unlock, which i would assume that it would then pop up the dot pattern.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] gohamstergo:
ECLIPS3's explanation is entirely correct. locking will not hide your homescreen. but then, if someone wanted to see your homescreen with the normal lockscreen, they would just have to slide down the Arc most of the way and they'd see most of it. not secure either way.

but i dont think thats what you were even worried about Lemcott. but explained it anyway :P
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Lemcott:
yep, you got it :) I'm not really worried about them seeing the homescreen (oh no! they saw my poor organizational skills! I'm ruined! haha) I just have my phone locked done mainly because my friends and I have a pretty long running epic war to change each other's facebook status'/tweets to very embarrassing things, nosey family members, and just in case i ever forgot it somewhere.

cant wait till i get my new phone in tomorrow and patch this sucker on. speaking of which, if i were to patch this after flashing on Jamezelle's sense-abloe 2.0, would it look just like the normal htc lock screen just transparent? or will it look like sense-able's lock screen but transparent?
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] ECLIPS3:
it will look like the normal lock screen, just transparent. but you could edit the transparent lock screen to look like jameselles, just transparent. im sure someone would be willing to do that for you. i might, just dont have time right now.