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[Off-topic] egzthunder1:
(ifanboy): "We can organize our games and apps in folders. OMFG!"

(Every other mobile device user - regardless of OS): ROFL...

(Steve Jobs): "We need to pay the devs somehow, so you will get ads every 3 minutes"

(Every other mobile device user - regardless of OS): HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

(Apple team): "We can control music via controls in the lock screen"

(A_C): "HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA - Welcome to the 21st Century, Jobs"

(Steve Jobs): "Flash and Java are not supported"

(Anyone that likes Youtube who has already purchased an iPhone/iPod/iPad): "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU..."

(Steve Jobs): "We can do multi-tasking"

(Microsoft and Google): "Laughing uncontrollably"

On this last one (a personal note really): They don't really explain how they do it, or how they will prevent the thing from slowing down if it is running GPS, Safari, and MP3 at the same it. Any device and/or computer slows down with too many things pulling resources for itself

I could keep going, but I guess you all can see my point here :D
[Off-topic] Henchman:
Checking digital bliss's stats, It's obvious he only came to XDA to talk crap about the Nexus.

I bet he doesn't even own one.

How sad and pathetic.

That you would go through the effort to join a forum just to talk crap about something he doesn't even own.
[Off-topic] rjhay22:
Amusing, coz he is speaking on behalf of all the iPhone users, yet there are a bunch of ex iPhone users here including myself and a few of my friends, who testifies that although the N1 might not be a perfect device, but its clearly better than the iPhone.
[Off-topic] vardig:
Multitasking.......Theres an APP for that !

L O L
[Off-topic] chikoo:
OMG...ROFL
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
YAY!!!!

http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/10/adobe-vs-apple-war-generates-rage-facebook-group/
[Off-topic] imperiallight:
(Every other mobile device user - regardless of OS): I cant find a good ROM to make my s****y mobile device work properly

(Steve Jobs): ROFL
[Off-topic] imperiallight:
Opera mini arrived on the iphone today and it is quick, as fast or faster than the HD2.
[Off-topic] imperiallight:
JB iphones could do this for longer than Android I bet. In fact how long have Android phones been able to do it for?

This is for free apps mainly that will nonetheless be fully functional. As a source of revenue (like on Android). If you don't like it buy the App you cheapskate.

??? Its an update, calm down, we All know you want an Iphone music player:rolleyes: I bet THAT won't be coming in an update hahahahahaha

Come again? Youtube was always a native iphone App. Have you even picked up an iphone?

Yes, MS WM7 the iphone wannabe. And android whose best app is the clock. You are annoyed the iphone now has this, admit it.

Please keep going so I can expose you more to your fellow group of back slappers.
[Off-topic] egzthunder1:
Have you ever picked up an Android device? I had an iphone for about two weeks and I jb it.I played with it a bit but was bored to my senses with it.

On the same subject, I never mentioned WP7 when I was referring to M$ and Google. WM has been able to do multitasking for as long as I can remember and that's where I was going with it. You can argue all you want, but you cannot change the fact that it took 3 years for Apple to put this in the iPhone. Also, please explain to me the magic that Apple has developed that will prevent the iPhone from slowing down while running memory hungry apps simultaneously (even computers slow down when handling tasks in this manner).

We don't flash roms because our devices suck, we flash roms to make them better suited for our needs. For instance, TMO HD2 comes preloaded with a 120 second trial version of Prince of Persia, which I don't use. Changing the rom allows me to get rid of this unwanted app and use the storage for something that I want to use it for.

One other thing, once you load OS4 in your device, you can kiss your famous JB goodbye and it is back to stock with you. Now that I am on the subject, you jailbroke your iPhone... why exactly did you do this again? So that you can install wall papers, mods, install other apps, maybe even use it in another network by unlocking the SIM, right?.... that sounds... so familiar.... changing the core functionality of a device to do something that the mfg didn't intend it to do in the first place, where have I heard that before? :confused:... oh I know, it sounds exactly like flashing a rom! (in fact, you are flashing the iphone's bootloader to jb it) :O

Not to be an as$, but I honestly don't understand what you are saying here.

Uhmm... since Android 1.0 and WM for much...much longer than that.

All I can say is enjoy your Nike commercials!
[Off-topic] nimish_fun:
ha ha ha i am loving it!!:D
[Off-topic] imperiallight:
I have a black g1 rooted with the latest Cyanogen Rom. It's nice but the regular 'force close' and 'stop responding' signs are not something I experience

with the iphone. I also have a hacked and tethered Archos 5 Android which I use much more often and I do like the OS being android on it. But a mini ipad at that size would be better I bet.

Sure, Apple cant change the laws of physics but just watch, I am sure Apple will handle it well by utilizing the devices resources and task management. Thats the thing, as a user you don't have to worry, Apple will handle it before it hits the mass market.

Keep telling yourself that. I have been flashing ROM's for as long as it has been possible with many WM devices and this has been my conclusion. Light ROM's (like in yourexample) speed things up but the basic makeup is still poor. Good Roms substitute and add to the poor basic functionality with hacks and programs.

I always like to max out my devices and yes the services restricted by Apple I love to get around. But thats not to take away from what they do, they do it well. They are the leaders because they are innovative and customer focussed.

The iphone as a music player > android device as a music player... see a pattern here?
[Off-topic] souljaboy:
fanboy invasion again ? polishing the turd again ?

why are u here at xda , find ur own sucker forum with ur stoneage super low res display and cpu phones
[Off-topic] egzthunder1:
I have owned portable devices (pda) since 2001 (and pda phones since late 2002) and they have all been able to play music. Apple did not invent the concept of mobile music (or rather mp3 players on a phone). The Wallaby has been able to do this since its launch date, so if you were to make a time line it would go something like this (WM as a music player >I-Phone as a Music player > Android as a Music Player). They are not following Apple's trend (if that is what you are referring to) and moreover, Apple was not the one that introduced mp3 players to the world either. In fact, the iPod was kind of a late comer into the game (revolutionary interface with the scroll wheel and a simple yet effective interface, I have to admit), but I got my first mp3 player (a Rio with 16 Mb of built in storage and Smart Media card expansion slot) back in 1999 (and this particular device had been out for about a year before that if not more), which is 2 years before Apple even got their 1st gen ipod out.

That still doesn't answer my question about how this is done.

You do realize that you just contradicted yourself, right? BTW, they are not customer focused, they are money focused... (in case you missed it, 40% of the ad revenues go to Apple and not the devs of the apps where these ads will be placed)
[Off-topic] Spl4tt:
imperiallight im sry, but the iphone music player just sucks for me, no settings, no personal equalizer presets, and the quality... just sucks

never used a good player on a wm phone? that quality is like 10 times better than the iphones. +it looks cooler

btw, i used an iphone for some weeks and i had an ipod touch for like a year.. now i own a cowon s9 for the music cause that quality even beats wm =D
[Off-topic] imperiallight:
Wait till the iphone 4g is announced in the next two months then I will give you something to kiss

Not really, an iphone customer never really has to think about hacking unless he is a power user. Its a luxury package and you can add a statue or velvet curtain to furnish your room. Most other software OS's are like hotels with gaps in the floorboard, missing beds with rats running around (WM mainly).
[Off-topic] imperiallight:
Fair enough, I'm not big on music myself but I love to use my iphone and it sounds great. I never feel compelled with the hassle of other phones. Also your view is not one I have commonly heard but I will respect it.
[Off-topic] Spl4tt:
u really think apple will bring something thats better than the ipad?^^

nobody would buy an ipad anymore i think...

and... the screen will be 4" or less i think, or even will stay at the same size, cause apple goes for performance and user friendliness... and not all ppl like a big screen

and nobody cares about what the hardware of iphone is, thats why i think ram will stay at 256mb, but maybe they will build in the new A4 cpu, just to talk big...
[Off-topic] egzthunder1:
I have not met a single iphone/ipod touch user to this date who hasn't jb or had the device jbn by someone.

All in all, I just realized that this argument will not take us anywhere, you have your views and I have mine... but hey, if nothing else it was good talking to you :) At least you are not rude like many ifanboys are (I am not saying that you are one with this statement since you clearly can take on and understand other types of devices)

Again, nice talking to you (now back to flashing.... damn ORD!) :)
[Off-topic] Spl4tt:
this is true, but still i like discuss about that things with others, so i maybe learn new things =D
[Off-topic] egzthunder1:
That is true, but I have already used 3 posts discussing about the same points... there is no learning of anything here. Simply points of view...
[Off-topic] souljaboy:
yea , thats a good point , and by polishing their app sales numbers , and appstore numbers , it kinda shows they dont really wanna move to a newer device with a different screen , that would make alot of work for them , and easiest way to scale would be double size but thats 960*640 and i dont see apple the "reinventors" doing that

so theyre just ridin what they got till theres still somebody who buys it
[Off-topic] imperiallight:
Thanks, its nice of you to say that. :)

The iphone is definately going to be slightly bigger in size as it has front facing camera. It may be slimmer as a result. Whether the screen size increases remains to be seen. 3.7" is a sweet spot though, I wouldn't complain with 4" either like the X10 but its likely to to remain at 3.5.

The resolution will become competitive, some say doubled. It will have at least a 5Mx with LED Flash (its in the leaked API). It will definitely be 1GZ or more CPU, like you and others have said it may be the powerful A4.

The ipad mini is rumoured to be released in December with a 5-7" screen so I dont think they will get anywhere near that. This is all being conservative but there may be a surprise innovation too like 3D ready or touch sensitive body. But the basic make up should be solid for once.
[Off-topic] sonus:
I really don't get what all the iphone hate is about. Yea, yea, yea, its been lacking features, but everytime they add said features, they do it better than everyone else.

It really is quite simple.

Apple has the best overall OS (even though it is locked down)

WebOS is probably the most most polished OS.

WM is the most open OS.

Android is somewhere in between everyone else, but its a close second to the iPhone since although WebOS is most polished, its phones have crappy hardware, very few applications, and a small community.

Despite all this, and despite being on the first iPhone carrier, AT&T, my next phone will likely be running Android. I'm not going to lie to myself and say that Android is superior though... I'm choosing Android because I enjoy some ability to customise my OS (esp. the homescreen), and because I like having something that not everyone else has.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Dark sunshine?

Living dead?

Jumbo shrimp?

Cold sun?
[Off-topic] sonus:
Lol, jumbo shrimp do exist, and a locked down OS does not equal a bad OS. Yes, maybe that means it isn't best for you or I, but it may very well be best for the majority of people... which the iPhone is.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
No, even when we're not talking about preferences. A locked-down OS can only operate locked-down. An open OS can be open or locked down.
[Off-topic] imperiallight:
Similarly, it looks like I will be moving to the n900 rather than the 4G although I know I will be making huge sacrifices. I know exactly how it is now and I can somewhat predict its timeline. But its changing the face of what it means to have a laptop in your pocket being able to run photoshop type programs and desktop browsing. The possibility of an Android 2.1 port is very imminent too.
[Off-topic] imperiallight:
Android now runs on iphone:

Could mean Flash etc support
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Then why even buy the iPhone? Do people really like that shiny BS with the smudge-central screen?
[Off-topic] domineus:
well running android is interesting

welcome finally to htc then android
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Well, the headline says it all.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/live-from-apples-iphone-os-4-event/

While Apple's implementation does not even come close to something like webOS, it's at least something.

Of course, with apps like AppSwipe on Android or TaskFacade on WM, we've had this forever. :rolleyes:

But who's the only one left who doesn't have it? I think this is just embarrassing for Microsoft. :confused:

And that along with WP7's not-so-revolutionary UI, that wastes lots of space and doesn't include notifications handling like Android or webOS...

...sorry, but I hope WP7 fails miserably. That's what Microsoft deserve.

And by the way, Apple copied an Android developer!
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
If I read Engadget correctly, that's not real multitasking. They provide seven (?) system services that applications can use, like Audio etc. Which is definitely better than no multitasking (and for many practical intents and purposes may be better than real multitasking), but still...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Still better than WP7, though.

And as I said, it doesn't come close to webOS or Android, or even WM.

Those are still better at multitasking.

Nevertheless, I think this is embarrassing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
EDIT: Not sure yet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
No doubt about it. In terms of overall device performance it may be better than Android or WM, actually, even though limiting for certain applications.
[Windows Phone 7 General] htcplussony:
I think I like how Apple did it. Looks like a pretty good compromise to me.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
It's not bad, actually. But Android hasn't failed on me so far, thus I still prefer the full multitasking.

OK, two more announcements that I find quite embarrassing for Microsoft:

Multiple Exchange accounts

A gaming network for iPhone gamers.

They just blew away two of the most important (and only?) advantages of WP7, PLUS they even do something that WP7 doesn't: limited multitasking.

I don't know, but... This is sad :(:(:(

Microsoft have had it all in their hands for ten years and now they can't come up with something even remotely competitive?

This is sad, IMO.
[Windows Phone 7 General] htcplussony:
Actually I got a question. Does windows mobile allow multiple exchange accounts? I was surprised to see that in the Apple conference.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
No, Windows Mobile does not.

Windows Phone 7 will allow it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
Yeah I just read this post. They are going all out to try to head off WP7 before it even comes out. Microsoft better get busy on getting all the drawbacks of WP7 in line.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Zaim2:
I laughed when they announced Apple iBox Live. Maybe Microsoft should have kept that one under wraps.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
This was a sweeping swipe at both Microsoft and Google.

Great! You may love or hat Apple, but this was great.

Anyway, it's still not competitive to Android. Still misses notification handling and widgets, which make Android nicer to use.

At least that makes me happy, cause my Nexus will definitely NOT be outdated in July. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I'll reserve my final judgment till they announce the new hardware specs. They still don't offer good codec support, itunes is still a crime against humanity, and I haven't seen a new way to handle notifications.
[Windows Phone 7 General] WhyBe:
The iPhone 4.0 multitasking seems to be really similar to the implementation in WP7. :confused:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
No, it's better. In WP7, developers can't use those background services (e.g. music).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
Correct you are currently the only thing 3rd party apps can do right now is push notifications. No services running in the background period.
[Windows Phone 7 General] burnblue:
7 limited APIs. This is the direction I expect(ed) Windows Phone to take.

Windows has the push notifications, the instant-resume apps, and music APIs that let apps plug into Zune and play music in the background... but Apple has covered the few scenarios most requested on XDA i.e. location tracking, task completion, 3rd party music, and VOIP.

Microsoft HAS to get these done or Phone 7 will be an inferior OS. Now I know iPhone started weak, watched the game, and add features after a few years, and Windows is starting new. Microsoft doesn't have the time though.. here and now, iPhone will have both data detection and copy paste while MS is catching up.

Also, Apple will make a crapton of money off iAd. Good luck Microsoft, I sort of believe in you
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
It's what WP7 was meant to have but didn't get in time. Third party services won't run on the iPhone either. The OS will provide services that will perform some background tasks for applications.
[Windows Phone 7 General] burnblue:
I don't agree. Stepping up to "take accountability" when it's so risky to start new is something I can applaud. They're just so slowww
[Windows Phone 7 General] honestgabe00:
I really really hope this helps Microsoft wake up. They still have some time, maybe they will fix the broken things.... I hope.

P.S. hahaha "iBox Live" I love it
[Windows Phone 7 General] gogol:
Guess what? The WP7 will be delayed till mid 2011.

Believe me, this will happen.

Why?

People will choose iPhone OS 4.0 vs WP7 ...

Or people will choose Android (I believe there will be some Android updates AFTER iPhone 4.0 released).

WP7 developer is still debating copy-paste, while their competitors are marching way ahead (iPhone multitasking and gaming platform).

Who knows Google will announce gaming platform as well :D I surely hope because I just got HTC Desire which is awesome!!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] DMAND:
how is it embarasing? Its not even real multitasking, even WP7 runs pandora in the background etc.

Apple welcome to 2005 btw, Folders......dont make me laugh :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] flashpanda:
Nobody's really reading what's going on here are they, or how iPhone OS multitasks.

Specifically, iPhone OS 4's multitasking is identical to WP7's apparent lack of multitasking. They work the same way, appear the same way to the user.

Same **** different name.
[Windows Phone 7 General] AngioNicholai:
it took 4 generations for apple to figure out how to change wallpapers, hugefail by apple
[Windows Phone 7 General] NoWorthWhile:
I've been following the huge iPhone succes around here in Europe since the beggining... And there is a pattern that crosses my mind, each time I see a new iPhone user:

People just want the devices to work. When I say people, I mean your average Joe, your mom, hell, your dog even. Seriously, go in the streets, ask them about .Net CF 3.5 required to run some apps on your phone, the'll be like "dude, wtf?"

What I mean is, Apple's success is based on the stupidity of the human race. And Apple is clever in that they exploit that stupidity. Just look at how our society works: conformity.

Apple has revolusionized the mobile computing, NOT created it. Why is that? Because they made it easy. Sure, they sacrifised some features us geek-tech-savvy enjoyed, but on the other end, you booted up your iPhone, and it just worked.

So, how is the new iPhone OS a success? Well, it isn't. Not more than it already is. Every iPhone user I know just wants to play their stupid games, check their email, update their facebook/twitter, and that's it. No need for multitasking, or whatever. Did it work? Yeah, 50M iPhones sold.

I hate Apple, for insulting us like that. But I can only admire them because they took advantage of us.

Now, Microsoft, my attention is turned upon you. Bring me WP7 working out the box (with the ability for core users to customize it), bring me that freaking awesome Courier, bring me a UNITED STORE for ALL THESE DEVICES (==> Zune), bring me a book store (get a partnership with Amazon, that'd be awesome), bring me all of this with monthly updates and a promise that I do not need to upgrade my hardware every year, and I swear to you, not only you'll get the dumb market (ie: 99% of the population), but you'll win the respect from this forums, the media respect, the techblogs respect, and the mindshare you need to gain.

My money is on you, and I bet big.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
No. WP7 does not (yet) support this kind of "multitasking". Pandora will not be able to run in the background.

They never release more than absolutely necessary. They knew multitasking was absolutely necessary, cause people were going crazy over it.

And whenever they release one of the crucial features, that should have been there from the beginning, their fanboys go crazy (the same people that have been defending Apple for NOT adding the features in before).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Badwolve1:
best post i have ever read, i am seriously considering getting an iphone/ipad if i donts like wm7, not a huge fan of android (no offfence meant, i jut dont get it :o)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Spike15:
I think it's amusing that while people are going nuts about these new operating systems, WM6.5 has every feature that they want.

M$ should've stuck with what they had and made it better, which was their original plan with Photon.

They've dropped the ball on this one.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RedDevils88:
i agree so much on what u have said! I have been and still is a very loyal Windows Mobile user and i would be so glad to introduce a Windows Mobile device to whoever asks me what phone should he/she get.

Now things have changed, i feel so reluctant to tell them about Windows Mobile phone (even when i'm using and still in love with the HD2). Now i would pursue them to get an Android device instead. All of these because M$ decided to dump us and to invest in a new OS that even the best WinMo Device - the HD2 would not get an upgrade. :(:(

Seriously thinking about Android when the EVO 4G comes out.. thanks to M$ for how u have treated us! Still enjoying flashing and trying out new stuffs with my HD2!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple Drama Llama:
I think, microsoft should have kept the same features of wm 6.5 and added on, along with making a new more creative UI for it. Wm7 is no longer a "smartphone" it's a "conformity" phone just like the iphone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] julian2596:
ya you are right they should had did that i bet if we developers and cunsumers were working on this phone we could made it way better but noooo we got little kids making this phone .Microsoft needs new people to make new phones like us if theyy want to stay in the game like android and apple
[Windows Phone 7 General] flashpanda:
Actually, Pandora was specifically mentioned as a use case for the hubs; people keep banging on about this dated app-centric paradigm and are totally forgetting what does/will make WP7 unique, in trying to move away from it. Pandora was mentioned as something that can play through a Music hub, allowing background audio streaming. Last.fm as well.