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[Desire General] miles_t:
I know this is probably obvious but I take it you have gone through. Audio settings

And maxed the volume? And checked any volume controls on headphones? If both set to max

And still not loud then the handset is faulty so get it replaced

Now!!

Mine set to max would be at ear bleeding levels!!
[Desire General] Cronnie:
The speaker quality isn't great, but considering I don't use them that much it is good enough for me.

Am a little surprised with the headphone issues, considering that I have my volume set just under halfway and it is more than loud enough for me.

I am using my Sennheiser earphones, but the volume is fine with the supplied HTC ones too.
[Desire General] irkan:
what kind of bit-rates are you using for music? ... 128? or more, ... as the quality effects the loudness somehow I believe.

try experimenting with different bit rates and see how that goes :)
[Desire General] cez10:
I think this might be due to new UE regulations about maximum volume in mobile devices, though im not 100% sure if its already in the system.

However Im pretty sure that in couple days/weeks there will be some hacks/apps/ to change that ;)
[Desire General] leoni1980:
So have I got a faulty phone?

Or are people just overly forgiving??

Everything is set to max. I've also noticed that the Mic quality in videos is also shockingly poor in terms of volume. I wonder if all of these functions are shared by the same chipset.
[Desire General] chipshop:
leoni, I'm having just the same problem. I think it must be a problem with some of these phones. I can't believe that people are just being overly forgiving.

I'm not looking to push the volume up too high, but if I can't hear it when there's a little background noise going on, then that's a serious design flaw.

I'd like to do a comparison with another Desire at some point, hopefully I'll bump into someone using one soon...
[Desire General] daesimps:
Just to answer some of the above questions/suggestions:-

I'm using MP3s in 256k bit rate format. All volume controls are set to max and there is no volume control on the headphones I am using.
[Desire General] leoni1980:
I'm sending mine back. I'm due an upgrade on Monday anyway so I'll test one in the shop and see if It's the same. The headphone volume is the main issue for me; its just too low.
[Desire General] adjei7:
I also think that the volume is way too low. Just out of curiosity, could this be a Rom issue? I'm using the stock TMO Rom. To the people who think it's loud enough, which Rom are you on?
[Desire General] leoni1980:
My biggest problem is with the volume through the headphones....speaker volume I can live with, though it is crap and tinny
[Desire General] alex101uk:
I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.
[Desire General] irkan:
are you on TMO ROM?
[Desire General] manks:
Loud speaker isn't audible above the sound of my shower, which is a real shame as coming from a n95 8gb the loud speaker was great. Oh well. I'm a forgiving type!
[Desire General] jpxdude:
I have found music volume to be pretty low but I'm fairly convinced it is a software/Rom issue because the volume in some applications is loud! Doesn't made much sense. Running T-mob here.
[Desire General] fooXeh:
Every review i read so far said the speakers would be great.
[Desire General] archermav:
I have ordered a replacement phone from T mobile as the loudspeaker is shocking, I can't even hear it when it is in my pocket. Actual sound quality id truly awful. Just hope it's a faulty handset or I shall be having to source a different model.
[Desire General] Raminder1992:
How can you order a replacement?

I thought my phone was alright but my headphone and speaker volume too quiet! My Archos 5 was twice as loud!!

Also my battery lasted 8 hours, where I did not use it for about 3-4 hours. And when I did use it I had sync of etc...!
[Desire General] chipshop:
Let us know how you get on... I'm on Tmob ROM too.

Agreed, speakers are puny, but I can live with that. It's the headphone volume that's really bummed me.
[Desire General] DarkVasyaK:
hell, I was thinking to buy a HTC Desire, but it's a pity that headphone volume is very low :( now still not sure what to buy - SE X10 or Desire, or waiting for other upcoming android phones..
[Desire General] alex101uk:
yea i'm using the stock t-mob rom. I'll be interested to find out if this is an issue with some handsets of weather some users just expect crazy volume. I know my speaker is definitely louder than that on my G1 (Died the night before the Desire release, handy that eh?).
[Desire General] Nelsaidi:
Speaker volume is good, it was loud enough when I was walking down a main road with cars going by with 10 mtes in oconversation that we could all hear the song being played - but it wasnt loud - Note i was holding it waist hight. - I would say mediocre, it is louder than what I expected.

Cant comment on quality, it is far from the best but not bad, I find however it needs some reverb or whatever you call it - put your hand arround it (so sound bounces of it) and quality I find better - then again i'm no audiophile.

As for headphones, its not bad - the supplied headphones do not protect against external sound so that is an issue, but I found them louder than expected.

ITs all about expectations :P

I will however compare using the standard headphones on the desire to the ipod when using the same pair - just let me find my ipod first :P
[Desire General] Cronnie:
Might be an issue with the Tmobile ROM then?

I am using the generic HTC ROM.
[Desire General] jurmala98:
I'm on the T-mobile rom as well, and its definitely much quieter than my Iphone 3G, must be the rom, might be worth taking the plunge and putting the HTC rom on there just to see if it fixes things..
[Desire General] paulruk:
I havent got my desire yet ,comes next week :) ,but I`m using a t-mobile g2 (htc hero) and sound volumes are fine both through headphones and speaker either on the train, in the street,etc. So sounds like a faulty phone if people arent happy with the volume.

A couple of recommendations I would make is too get yourself a portable Fiio e5 headphone amp, its a very small amp that is charged by usb just for mp3,phones. I use one and it not only improves volumes but gives more bass to the sound (it has a built in equaliser). About £15 , well worth it.

Another thing, not sure what the headphones are like that come with the desire, but I`d suggest scrapping them and getting some in-ear phones like some klipsch image s4. I`ve spent hundreds over the years on portable headphones, never satisfied until I tried out the klipsch. They about twice as much as I`d normally pay (£70) but the result is sound quality that was never possible with cheaper headsets, and theyre very comfortable aswell, never hurt your ears like some.

Not the answer i know, just some suggestions.

Paul
[Desire General] jurmala98:
Well I took the plunge and flashed my ROM from T-Mobile to the 99% vanilla one in the dev forum. First thing I checked was the headphone volume, and I believe it is louder, definitely still quieter than my iPhone 3G tho. However it seems to to be at a more reasonable volume.

Still wish there was an equalizer! but at least now i wont be carrying around both my iphone and desire!
[Desire General] ephumuris:
I noticed it too but thought it might be my imagination but it does seem louder on the generic rom.
[Desire General] miles_t:
Mine is tmob and volume levels are very loud so its not all tmobs. I think there must just be a few rogue handsets
[Desire General] aidanbree:
I have a T-Mobile handset and the ringing volume is great. The headphone volume is lacking though...
[Desire General] archermav:
Righto, my replacement Desire came from T mobile yesterday. Speaker 'seems' slightly better, but still rubbish. Looks like I may just have to live with it:mad:
[Desire General] XDAgeek:
I too have low headphones volume. I also had low headphone volume in my European ipod, until I ran software fix to remove the annoying euro-limiter.

The problem is that most pop music is so compressed, bringing.v up the RMS level, and this causes the playback volume to be artificially loud, and dangerous to hearing. However many non-pop recordings are compressed much less aggressively, so the appropriate playback level needs to be higher to achieve the same perceived volume level. However, the RMS level is much lower, so the danger to hearing is much reduced.

Unfortunately tbd nanny state has determined that because of this, we should be protected from ourselves, leaving those higher fidelity lower compressed recordings lacking on playback.

By way of example, I can comfortably listen to Steely Dan on my hifi at almost 100% volume, whereas my daughters Spice Girls feels like it is going to damage something at about 60%.

In the world of pods there are software switches to turn off the euro-limiter. I expect the same applets will be available for the Desire shortly.
[Desire General] paulruk:
I`ve owned a sony walkman w850i, htc g2 and now the Desire, the volumes are pretty much the same on all phones. In other words sound volumes through ear phones are uncomfortable at anything past 80% volume. Speaker volume is fine too on the desire, albeit a bit tinny sounding.

I`d say if you are in a quiet room and you have to put the volume up full via ear phones to listen to music theres a problem with the phone. Volume at 60% is comfortable listening around the home.
[Desire General] m8te:
I'm also having problems with the speaker volume when I put the phone on handsfree. Weirdly the volume on ringing is fine, I even had to turn it down this morning when it frightened the life out of me.

I'm happy enough with the volume when I have headphones in. Don't use this much.

However I do use the speaker phone, I might call T-Mobile and see what they say.
[Desire General] leoni1980:
My returns bag is yet to arrive from T-Mobile so I took the opportunity today to compare the speaker with a HTC Hero I bought yesterday (for £120 I might add!). I know that from previous comparisons with the iPhone 3g the Hero speaker is pretty rubbish but in comparison with the Desire it is a lot louder and less hissy. I wonder why HTC have put a seemingly inferior speaker in a supposedly superior unit.
[Desire General] daesimps:
Both the wife's Desire and mine also have this issue. They are both T-Mobile Desires, but mine's been updated to the generic ROM.

Both of us find the loud speaker quite loud for ringtones but appauling for loud speaker phone calls. This was in a quiet living room with no TV or anything. You could barely hear the caller.
[Desire General] entropy:
Headphone volume is definitely too low, even with Koss Pro. T-Mobile ROM here.
[Desire General] Nekromantik:
Has anyone with low speaker volume put the phone down on the surface while playing back a track and seeing if it seems louder? Could the be proxmity sensor lowering the volume while you have it in your hand.

This might have already been done but just thought I would mention it.
[Desire General] th3:
T-mobile here and speaker /headphone volume is definitely very low.

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[Desire General] Aitese:
For those who say they have a good volume...good for you. Brilliant. That's tops and I'm genuinely happy for you, but you're not helping.

It's frustrating the amount of replies saying "mines well loud" as if it's somehow helpful to the situation. There is a definite volume issue. I'm going to assume everyone having these issues has not just now discovered headphones for the first time ever and previously had zero contact with personal audio.

See below...it is an issue that has been raised everywhere Desire users converge. It's not make believe by a bunch of people unaware of how to operate volume rockers. Please, if you have advice, advise...if you're just commenting to dismiss it as foolishness then please don't.

http://forums.androidandme.com/topic/htc-desire-headphone-volume-problem

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=666366

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=654039

http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discu...=8010380706d79930127a9fadba80076ff&nofilter=y

Could I implore everyone who has this issue to contact HTC via their UK support hub? Thanks.
[Desire General] CharlieCharlie24:
Having the same problems. Using the same in ear headphones (high quality Sonys) that I use on my ipod touch, which is very loud.

I am on the latest Generic ROM as well.

Have also just emailed HTC regarding this.
[Desire General] Paxman's Tie:
Same problem here too. T-Mob rom. Tried listening to music for the first time on the train today and it's barely acceptable at full volume. Just emailed HTC.
[Desire General] leoni1980:
Sound is so low I cant enjoy listening to music through my headphones; slow as it is I've been going back to my Hero and the speaker and audio quality is far superior.....shame its so slow!
[Desire General] Aitese:
Hi guys, just thought I'd mention it here, but flashing a generic ROM has definitely fixed this for me.

It's sad I had to go that far as it seems a replacement handset would have not solved it seeing as T-Mobiles software seems to be the culprit. So now I've probably voided my warranty to get decent volume.

Sucks.
[Desire General] nicelad_uk:
I noticed the other day that the loudspeaker on phone calls is very low and wasn't impressed one bit. I haven't tried it with music yet but will do when I get in after work today.

I'm on the Generic Sim free software, bought from Expansys
[Desire General] thebosh:
I'm on T-Mobile ROM & have just sent HTC an email. I wonder if it's also worth emailing T-Mobile as well??
[Desire General] Aitese:
T-Mobile refused to address the issue (basically, from the delivery/stock mess I'm certain one hand doesn't know what the other is doing...so I can talk with CS all day, they have NO clue what the techies did with the software and the techies wouldn't know why they were asked to do it) stating it was probably a faulty unit. Having visited a T-Mobile shop and tested their unit from a completely different batch it was the same. The fact the problem was solved after removing T-Mobiles ROM is all the proof I need that they hamstrung the device on purpose.
[Desire General] sellhimechoes:
Even with my Shure E3C's i find the volume too low (Tmobile ROM).

I am just waiting for an app, or hack for this as it's quite obvious we're not receiving support from either HTC or Tmobile on this issue.
[Desire General] Jasand:
I Had an xperia X1 and to me the Desire is LOUD compared.

I could not hear my X1 ring in my pocket but the Desire is in a leather case and in my pocket, the speaker volume is not an issue.

As for using headphones I find the Desire plenty loud but lacking in audio quality. The headphons supplied are awfull and are too big for my ears but my sony headphones are a lot better but dont have the inline controls.

I just wish there was a free equalizer for the Desire so I can tweak the audio settings.

So overall i find the Desire ideal on volume through the headphones and speaker but lacking in quality, this is comming from the xperia X1.

Im on Vodaphone and all above is my own personal view.
[Desire General] Paxman's Tie:
Glad to hear that the problem's been pinned down. So HTC pretty much made a perfect phone and T-Mob screwed it up. Well done them. Not too keen on reflashing & losing warranty a week into an 18 month contract though tbh. Anyone got an idea how likely it is some kind of volume hack will be made?
[Desire General] thebosh:
So I emailed HTC, as suggested on this thread, to ask them about the low volume I have through the headphones (stock T-Mobile). They got back to me and said the following:

Thank you for contacting us.

In regards to volume issue, I can help you with that.

This could be a driver conflict and we recommend to try a hard reset on it make sure that you back up all your data before the reset. If the problem still going on after this then contact us in this line +44 8458900079 and we will send your device to be repaired

I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.

Now this is the first I have ever heard of it being a driver conflict!!! It seems to me to be very clear that this has everything to do with T-Mobile ROM, rather than a hardware issue. Do I take the plunge and do a hard reset anyway (which is a bit of a pain the @ss)???

Anyone else heard back from HTC?
[Desire General] dafadau:
I finally got around to installing the generic ROM over the weekend, and it's made the volume quick a lot louder - very pleased!
[Desire General] niklz:
Hey guys,

Thought I'd resurrect this old thread. I too have volume issues, my zen recently kicked the bucket so I'm relying on using my desire for an mp3 player.

I have ordered a 16gb card and a sony bluetooth clip-on receiver (the kind you plug your own headphones into). I'm intrigued to see whether transferring the music to a different physical device in this way will sort out the volume (fingers crossed).

I shall post my findings.

If this doesn't work I will be flashing and installing a rom. Do all custom roms have the volume benefits of the generic HTC rom?

kind regards,

niklz
[Desire General] entropy:
The jury is still out on that one. Some people claim, installing HTC vanilla ROM increased max volume, others say it's just as low as before. Having all my music's gain set to relatively low 89 dB I'd be willing to root just for that reason but not if the outcome is uncertain. Quite frustrating.
[Desire General] landwomble:
Is the jury still out?

This has come up a few times and it always boils down to 4 responses:

1) I don't have the problem - mine is loud enough

2) Your headphones/ears/stereo is faulty, have you tried...

3) I've got the problem too

4) I had the problem, applied the OEM HTC ROM, and it's fixed.

I'm firmly in camp 4). The T-Mob ROM has terrible output, whether by design or accident, I don't care. The OEM HTC one doesn't. I've not come across anyone who has updated the ROM and not seen an improvement.
[Desire General] rowlando:
I have contacted T-mobile via Twitter. They are very responsive and are willing to help track this down. Until now, I am the only one who has contacted T-mobile Twitter support. Here's my tweets and responses (can't put links in for some reason):

So, please, everyone who has a problem with their volume, contact T-mobile via Twitter. They seem more on the ball than the telephone customer services. I'd prefer not to change my ROM and go through official channels. My twitter name is rowlando if you want to see my messages to @tmobileUKhelp. Please pass this message to other threads, both on this and other forums.

Use #desirevol hashtag if tweeting.

Cheers!
[Desire General] niklz:
Just to report back,

Received my sony MW600 set today, and I can report positive results;

To test I used both plugging in directly and the headset for comparison with some background noise (loud song on desktop system), I noticed a moderate improvement, it's hard for sure but I'm happy with it for now.

Also tested outside and passing traffic (2-3m) wasn't an issue.

So, if you're desperate for more volume but don't want to root just yet I can suggest getting some separate physical device to bluetooth music too, there are some fair cheap options out there and it seems the desire doesn't limit the volume cross platform.

Will post if I change my mind on this..

kind regards,

niklz
[Desire General] landwomble:
tweeted.

Done. To be honest you should probably just make a goldcard and flash the ROM. They're not going to produce a new ROM, test it, and release it in the near future...it's a pretty easy process to DIY and will fix it.
[Desire General] nfsnfsnfs:
The external speaker is definitely weaker than my earlier SE basic model . I can hardly hear the ringtone . The same ringtone in my previous SE was loud enough .
[Desire General] nfsnfsnfs:
Could we replace it with a better speaker ?

Like this one . h t t p s://www.gsm4world.us/htc-touch-pro-htc-raphael-100-oem-buzzer-speaker-d-02820_405.html
[Desire General] wgg:
Had the same problem with sound, however as has been stated it is the fault of the TMobile rom.

Ever since getting rid of it have never had problems with sound level. Can listen outside to external speaker and not have it at full volume.

Do yourself a favour and get another rom.
[Desire General] Elemetrix:
Well I hadn't noticed it was so bad until tonight.

I do have T-mobile phone but rooted and installed the MoDaCo latest 2.2 ROM a couple of weeks back.

I tried tonight plugging my PC speakers into the phone and playing some music at full phone volume I can comfortably crank my speakers up to full volume.

Plugging the same speakers into my laptop and they are loud enough to distort by 80% volume :(

There is an app out to increase volume on other phones but no N1/Desire but the guy does explain a little on how to hack the volume on these through a kernel modification. Not something I know anything about ;)

http://androidaudiohacks.com/home/archives/182
[Desire General] landwomble:
You could always install DSP Manager. It gives you separate equaliser and compression settings for headphone, phone speaker and bluetooth. It won't work miracles but it might help. I don't really use speakerphone but when I tested it you can improve the sound using DSP Manager. I'm running it on the AuraxTSense 7.6 ROM from XDA Devs, works great.
[Desire General] Komfortablynum:
HTC Desire - low Volume Headset

I need to add my voice to this complaint.

Also I can say that its not just the O2/T-Mobile ROM - I am on a Orange Android 2.1 ROM (sorry dont really know how to say which one)

I am experiencing terribly low headphone volumes - only audible in THE Quietest of environments - and as someone that cycles most of the time its useless to me.

To add to my complaints whilst in phone calls (only) there is a distinct crackle on the headphones -I doubt this is due to it being cranked right up (to hear the other side) - as when I select a music track its clear (no crackle at all)

so I cant hear my calls, and when I can there is a distracting hiss/crackle - apart from that its perfect - dammit!

Returning it in the morning to Orange - it will drive me mad having to use that for the next 2years.

I did call HTC support (UK tel: 01279 206906) - they said that they have received NO complaints about audio problems using the headset (I just resisted shouting BULL**** down the line)

regards, Komfy

PS - side effect of not hearing the other side in the conversation - I noticed I was shouting back at them (as if to compensate = total fail)
[Desire General] david_inuk:
I'd love to try your suggestion, but other than findinig it installed in a custom ROM, I can't find anywhere to download DSP Manager from. Can anybody help me?
[Desire General] eddyther:
Here:

http://androidforums.com/1446319-post107.html

I didnt try yet the app

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