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[Hero CDMA Android Development] robchaos:
It makes no difference. Every 2.1 rom is having trouble because they are all based off the same leak.

But if you want to know, I originally just flashed the fixed rom over Damage 2.05 with a dalvik wipe. Problem resurfaced on my way home from work today. When I got home I did a complete Data/Dalvik Wipe, Nandroided back to my stable 1.5 rom, then wiped data and dalvik again, and flashed the fixed rom. Problem Came back about 3 hours afterwards.

When everyone in the forum is making their roms from the same leaked RUU base, all roms will see this problem. All fixes that use previous kernel versions of the leaked 2.1 tester rom will also see this problem. In short, Everyone using a 2.1 rom on their HTC Hero has the potential to experience this bug. For some reason some people aren't. Right now what we need to do is figure out what the people who do experience it are doing different. It might just be as simple as the people who haven't experienced the bug are just flashaholics and are rebooting their phone every few hours anyways.

I have custom ringtones set for everything on my phone. They are all on /sdcard/media/ringtones or /notifications. could that potentialy cause anything? Maybe people who don't have the problem are using all the ringtones/notification tones that are in the phones internal memory media folder.

Anyways, I think it is going to require some serious restructuring of the Audio drivers on the kernel end of things...Either that or we all just wait for sprints official release, and those of us who have the problem just stick with 1.5 or reboot our phones constantly, and those of us who haven't experienced the audio dropout continue rocking the 2.1 rom.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] galt:
Thanks for the info. Damn this is rough...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] robchaos:
Yea. Most likely the thorn in sprints side too. They probably don't want to have to start over from scratch. Probably leaked it to see if XDa could fix it
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Avalaunchmods:
so update the fix is working perfect for those who it started working for. those of you who nothing is working, please post up your specs. including HW version and all Software. hopefully we cant get you guys working right too.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zeeeep:
I'm somewhere around 30 hours since flashing Fresh2.0D FixedV2 with no reboots (I rebooted after flashing, but not since) and no audio loss. Prior to your latest fix that would have never happened, so I consider my phone fixed. Thanks!!!

As for further troubleshooting help for others, it seems like most people still having trouble are using DC - is that accurate? Is there anyone using the "Fresh2.0D FixedV2" ROM that still has the audio dropout?

Thanks again!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zilch:
Ok, I've moved from a Touch Pro to a ex-AT&T Fuze so that I could get 850Mhz band I needed on Telstra (Australia). It's all working awesomely thanks to the guys help here and after a diversion where I had to get my SIM card holder replaced.

Now the remaining glitch is that the GPS is totally unusable :( Which is a show stopper since I use it a lot. I had it in the car for a 2 hour drive, and it only found one or two satellites the whole time, and they were not strong enough to get a lock. Most of the time it showed zero. Sometimes I eventually get a lock, but it doesn't last.

By comparison the Touch Pro has no problem getting and keeping a GPS lock under the same circumstances (with the two units side by side). They are both running Tael's ROM and the same version of Tomtom. Google Maps has the same issues.

Two possibilities I can think of are:

1) The Fuze has a bad radio ROM and upgrading/downgrading might help

2) When the phone repair place replaced the SIM holder, they didn't connect the GPS aerial correctly - so I'll need to take it back

For #1, I'm a bit doubtful as it is reporting v1.14.25.35, protocol 52.64c.25.35U and this thread seems to rate the GPS reception as one of the best. Also can I put any Raphael radio ROM on the Fuze? Or do I need to find an 850Mhz AT&T one?

#2 is going to be awkward as I'll have to convince them they have done something wrong and get them to repair it free of charge. Can anyone tell me how likely this is? Has anyone pulled one of these units apart? Is the GPS aerial something that they may have just not plugged in?

Any other suggestions would be appreciated. (I'd be over the moon if there was a simple software fix. Anything else I should check? (I have updated QuickGPS with the latest data etc).

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mlacomb:
I'd say run GPS Test while standing still and wait for a lock - I'm not sure what conditions you've tested in, but I've had experiences in the past with the Fuze (and a magellan) that if you were driving, the thing would take forever to get a lock if you didn't get a lock before moving.

Also; I'm running 1.14.25.05 - I ran .35 for a while, but reverted because NRG uses the .05 rilphone.dll; you could try that....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zilch:
Thanks for the reply, but I've tried it standing still. Very occasionally I can get a lock, but it takes about 30 minutes, and doesn't seem to matter if I am moving or not. My Touch Pro is running a really old radio (10.x from memory) and it can lock and hold the satellites fine.

Has anyone pulled one of these things apart and can tell me what could be a hardware issue? Is the GPS aerial something which needs to be plugged into the mainboard for example?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Farmer Ted:
Does your quick gps have the correct regional setting? Check HKLM/Software/HTC/QuickGPS. There is a value for region-I'm not sure if it updates automatically or not for your location. All I know is that my fuze's GPS sucked donkey balls in the UK. Normally, it just sucks French Poodle balls. I don't use A-GPS, so that wasn't the issue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zilch:
Hmm...ok. I had assumed that A-GPS was the technology, and QuickGPS was HTCs implementation. Are they different things?

Anyway, both the Fuze and the Touch Pro are running exactly the same ROMs (Tael's latest) with the same QuickGPS software and identical registry settings (but different Radio ROMs).

I just did a refresh of the QuickGPS data and put them side by side on my balcony for about 10 mins. Ran Tomtom with the GPS diag screen. Not a great view of the cloudy sky, but...

Touch Pro:

Shows a number of satellites, and finds reception from 3 or 4. The dots move around the compass a bit. Not as many detected initially (grey dots down the bottom of the screen is only about 10). Still can get a signal from one satellite sitting inside on my couch.

Fuze:

Full bottom row of grey dots, but didn't get any signal from a single satellite the whole time. Nothing. Also, the positions of the satellites on the compass seem to be in different places than the Touch Pro.

Re the region settings... the registry on both devices doesn't have this entry. There is a curRegion=dword:00000000, but no region at all. I'm wondering why this would be needed since the Touch Pro doesn't have it either and seems to work, but suggestions are welcome.

I notice there is no Services key either, like I found in some other posts. eg:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\QuickGPS]

"Keep"=dword:00000001

"Index"=dword:00000000

"Order"=dword:000000FF

"DisplayName"="QuickGPS app service"

"Description"="dll for icon in TodayScreen"

"Context"=dword:00000000

"Dll"="GPSAux.dll"

"Prefix"="GUX"

Again, the Touch Pro is working fine without this, but is this still needed in modern ROMs?

Still wondering if this is a hardware problem. Can anyone tell me how likely it is that the phone repair guys forgot to plug an aerial in or something?

Also, is there any better GPS diag software or is Tomtom the best bet?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Farmer Ted:
A-GPS and QuickGPS are unrelated. A-GPS uses cell towers to help get a fix. If you've got the same roms on each device, I'd guess they're working the same. I think the gpsaux.dll service just warns you when the data expires, but I'm not 100% sure of that.

Try different radios; that's all I can suggest. The GPS on my fuze pretty much blows, so you're not alone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zilch:
Ok...how do I turn AGPS on again then? :)

By "pretty much blows" I assume you don't mean you can drive on an open freeway for 2 hours with clear skys and only faintly see one satellite the whole time do you?

I was kinda happy with the GPS on the Touch Pro even though it would sometimes take until the end of my street to get a lock.

Wonder if I should do a hard reset before taking it back to the repair shop... sigh.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Farmer Ted:
You can turn A-GPS on with advanced config, and also enable logging, which will tell you if it's working or not. These are the keys for logging (I don't use it, so mine are blank).

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver]
"MaxLogFileSize"=dword:00000000
"OldLogFile"=""
"CurrentLogFile"=""

I think that A-GPS is HKLM\software\HTC\SUPL-AGPS\enabled=1, or something like that.

I used to get pretty good cold locks, like in less than 2 min reliably, but now it seems to take forever, as much as 30 min. It seems like my gps has gotten worse over time. Once it's locked, it works fine, though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zilch:
Ah yep - thanks. Advanced Config says "Assisted GPS = Yes". It's logging, but for some reason I can never open the log file (error, cannot be opened). The backup log file opens, but I'm not sure how to read it. About 4 lines with seemingly random text and lots of commas... :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zilch:
Ok, this is still not working... :(

I took it back to the repair place, who opened it up, did a visual inspection and told me there was nothing wrong with the hardware. They said it is a software problem (which it may be, but faaarked if I can work out what)

I have downloaded the HTC GPS Tool. I don't exactly know what the log data that it shows is, but I'm guessing since it seems to connect ok to COM4 that it is finding the GPS chip in my phone, just not getting anything useful as far as a signal goes.

Does anyone know how to read the logging data from this tool? I'm guessing that just because it is receiving data doesn't mean that it can see any satellites (since it performs just as well indoors)

Next I tried loading 'Raphael Radio 1.08.25.20M1' and the relevant Rilphone cab - when I read up about Rilphone cabs I started to wonder if that was the source of the problem, since I assume TEAL's ROM doesn't include the specific version for my radio. No luck though.

Next I put on the latest TEAL ROM, mainly just to set everything back to defaults in case I had screwed anything up. Updated the QuickGPS and then spent ages standing on the side of the road with my fingers crossed...

Nothing. Not a single satellite signal.

Any suggestions? Otherwise I'm going to have to buy a new phone. Should I keep trying different radio ROMs? Is there any way to check the hardware is actually ok?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Farmer Ted:
I don't know if the microsoft gpsid.dll is included in the rom or not, but you could try switching from using the HTC intermediate driver (gpsidhtc.dll) to it. I've been using the gpsid.dll for a few weeks, and it's not worse, but may be better than the HTC one (tough to say, really).

These are the reg keys for gpsid.dll:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\GPSID]
"Dll"="GPSID.dll"
"Order"=dword:10
"Keep"=dword:1
"Prefix"="GPD"
"Index"=dword:0
"Context"=dword:0
"Flags"=dword:2
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer\ActiveDevice]
"Dll"="GPSID.dll"
"Keep"=dword:1
"Flags"=dword:2
"Context"=dword:12344160

Here are the ones for the HTC driver:

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\GPSID]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer\ActiveDevice]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\GPSID]
"Dll"="GPSID_HTC.dll"
"Order"=dword:100
"Keep"=dword:1
"Prefix"="GPD"
"Index"=dword:0
"Context"=dword:0
"IClass"="{A32942B7-920C-486b-B0E6-92A702A99B35}"

If you try it, do a full backup beforehand. I had trouble trying to get the HTC driver reloaded once. You may need a hard reset/restore.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] GHOST99K:
hey guys i jus got HD2 and i really need some good 3rd party apps in cab files please.anything would help.thanx
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] anubis1126:
Search in these forums you will find them
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] wingtytn:
this isnt android there just apps
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ej2095:
Sure the is a sticky thingy on top of this with a list of apps?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] wilcovh:
which ones do you need ?

people might be able to help you better if you say what you need. what is the purpose of those? or is it just to fill your phone with software ? then use generalpart of xda-developers and the thread about working software in this section
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] GHOST99K:
so far i have wifi sharing router,core player,and skyfire flash player.i would like to have a dictionary or any really good apps would do.thank u
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] demarioj05:
Can anyone post a link here for 2.1 update for MT3G 32B???? If so, does it have the live wallpapers??? I would really appreciate it!!!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Secretcow:
"REMOVED BY MOD"That's the best one for the MyTouch 3g.

"MOD EDIT" PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING FAKED LINKS.
[Desire General] Raminder1992:
Hi, I am noticing that my battery life is very short. I have to charge my phone atleast twice a day. Last night I watched a program on my phone which was forty minutes long. After that my battery was already 60 percent about. However.now, in the morning, I woke up and checked one thing on the internet by 3g and now my battery is already 40 percent. Why is this .... I know that battery life on here is not good but mine seems worse.

Is anyone getting the same?

Thanks in advance.
[Desire General] gogol:
Tell us your settings:

- Do you allow background data?

- Do you always synchronize?

- Do you enable data connection?

- Do you connected to the Wi-Fi all the time?
[Desire General] Jabbypants:
I swear my battery life is far far better since i put that Generic rom on, maybe the minor updates htc have released help battery life ?
[Desire General] Quazar0:
Maybe the update will fix the battery life issue? We'll see when it rolls out on t-mobile handsets.

Other people have reported excellent battery life (mine only arrived today) and it seems to improve over time. How long have you had it?
[Desire General] Jabbypants:
I had mine 1 week today was originally on the T-Mobile rom and have had terrible battery life up to even yesterday, updated to the Generic Rom yesterday and it honestly seems to last longer now.
[Desire General] scotch whisky:
I was waiting for someone to report this before I did .. I too was originally on the T-mobile ROM and updated to the Generic ROM. I didn't notice any increase in battery life. In fact I didn't notice any changes apart from the minor T-mobile branding having gone.

Yesterday I did the OTA update and again didn't notice any changes. I did this morning though, in 10 hours the battery only dropped 4%. Of course the phone hadn't been used in that time and I have wi-fi and bluetooth switched off but I am sure this is a lot better than I was getting.

Maybe the OTA update has improved battery life. Let's hope so.
[Desire General] Raminder1992:
Hello again,

Is the generic Rom the Rom without the T-Mobile stuff?

How would you get that? And would that remove your warrenty / insurance?

How have some T-mobile people get the OTA update whereas some have not?

Have you realy found a difference with it?

THank you
[Desire General] ephumuris:
Yes to without T-Mobile stuff.

You can download it in the Android Dev Desire section on here. There are extra steps to take.

It WILL void your warranty.

Anyone that got their phone direct from T-Mob will NOT have it unless they did it manually. And by that i mean manually flash generic rom then update.

I noticed my battery is better but it's only one day. And i never really had a problem with it. I charge once a day anyways.
[Desire General] Raminder1992:
Thank you for the help.

However I am unsure if I should get the generic ROM.

What are the other advantages?

Because there is not a lot of T-Mobile stuff on there.

If I got mobile insurance with T-Mobile and flashed the ROM would I be able to claim if my phone got damaged or lost?
[Desire General] ephumuris:
Advantages. The phone is as it would come straight from the manufacturer. You will always receive updates for the device before Vodafone, O2,T-Mob etc would have them ready.

If the phone was lost then yes. If damaged...probably not but if it develops a fault you can always drop it in a drink and claim on he insurance...bit dodgy like!
[Desire General] adjei7:
My battery life story

So, I downloaded the brut Google nav mod the other day and haven't had a chance to use it until today. Took a journey which took about one hour, and made sure that my battery was fully charged before I went. I still hooked up the phone to the car charger though, to save power. One thing I noticed about charging the desire, however, is that if it identifies the battery as being already full when you connect a charger, the indicator light stays green, so doesn't top up even when you have been using it for a while. I noticed this about 20 minutes into my journey by which time the battery must have gone down quite a bit. Removing then replacing the charger sorted the problem and the Orange light indicated that it was charging again. By the time I got to my destination the battery was at about 50%.

On the return journey, I hooked up the phone again, turned on Google nav and set off. About 30 minutes into the journey I stopped off at a petrol station to grab some snacks, checked the battery and read 17%! Even though it was supposed to be charging the whole time!! I then got a message saying that the power from the car wasn't enough to charge the phone and I should attach AC power ASAP, which I obviously couldn't as I was in the car. I ignored it, got home safely enough, disconnected the charger and then watched the phone die :(.

Ok, so I was using gps and 3G which clearly uses up power and I guess Google nav is fairly processor hungry, but I would assume that having it connected to the car charger would be enough. Coming from a tocco ultra, I'm used to rubbish batteries, but at least that would charge up in a car.

Don't get me wrong, I still love the phone, but I just need to know if this is gonna be a regular issue, or something that can be sorted out with a Rom update.

Just for info, I've had my desire for nearly a week now on TMO using the old Rom. And, the car was Passat estate which is in very good nick, so I doubt that was the problem.
[Desire General] jm997:
I would look if the charger really charges the phone or if it drains it also when not using GPS/Nav etc.

Reason I'm saying this is that I once bought a charger that actually drained the battery instead of charging it, while it worked fine on my older Nokia phone. I'm assuming the phone deactivates some power saving features because it thinks it's hooked up to a charger, but at the same time the charger is too weak to actually charge it.
[Desire General] A|ex:
I have not used branded rom before on this phone but the htc rom battery life is fine. Mine has been going for three days with usage fine
[Desire General] irkan:
nice, 3 days. how many times u charged the phone since u got it?
[Desire General] swilza:
Try out Locale app... will definitely help saving battery power: twofortyfouram.com
[Desire General] cpam:
intresting my battery last a day :confused:
[Desire General] cez10:
I just started charging 2nd time my battery and it lasted hmm since about 2pm till 15% at about 00.00 which is pretty much 10hours of heavy use. i did leave it on sleep for about 2 hours though and i left it at 25% and after that it had 25-24 % lol so if you turn all the updates off it will last quite a lot i guess :)
[Desire General] Bandare:
I rang up T-Mobile today (tech support) to ask about the lack of update considering the rom was behind the non carrier phones at the start and then an update too. They said they do work on them when they see a notable difference worth updating.

Anyway, I also said I was incredibly dissatisfied with the battery and how long it lasted and wondered if it could be to do with the ROM being well behind the stock HTC one. The tech support guy was excellent and very helpful. He said that with the type of battery in the Desire, you need to make sure you have it on a MAINS charger from quite low for a good couple of 14 hour sessions with the phone off. This builds up the charge for the battery and you should see a marked improvement. He said that most people don't bother to do that and as a result get poor performance.

He did say him and 4 members of his team have the same phone and while some of his team had battery issues he didn't. The main reason being that he had spent a few days not taking it to work and running it down in the evening then giving it three 14 hour chargers. He said that made a huge difference.

He also said if I was dissatified to a point of big frustration they would replace the phone or refund. Can't ask fairer than that :)
[Desire General] Raminder1992:
It is good to know there are some good staff out there :)

I shall try what he says as I have bad battery life!

I am just putting every application on to drain my battery first lol

Thank you for the tip :)
[Desire General] Bandare:
yeah, I turned mine off a few hours a go and will leave it off until tomorrow.
[Desire General] cez10:
intersting, but seems kind of like a bull**** im think, whats the point of keeping the phone connected to a charger if as soon as it reaches 100% it stops charging? specially if the phone is off and it doesnt use any power
[Desire General] Jabbypants:
My battery life has got far better since putting on that Generic Rom knocking around the development forum from scotch whiskey's thread, I was on the T-Mobile one and put the other Rom on and updated OTA and its noticeable the difference, it could all be coincidence of course.
[Desire General] paulruk:
Dont have my Desire yet but these battery problems I bet are caused by widgets/email constantly connecting to 3g/wifi. For example the new friends stream widget seems great in theory but It must be constantly going online to check for updates, right? Same for weather widget,etc All these online widgets are a sure fire way to reduce your battery, as is checking for emails every 5 mins.

With my t-mobile g2 i turned most of the widgets off and just had it checking my email every hour. My battery lasted much longer.
[Desire General] ephumuris:
Well now I'm using the generic Rom and I must say thereby a definite improvement. I use WiFi very often. Facebook set to 1 hour updates. Weather set to 1 hour too I think plus news and emails too. On t-mobile Rom it would last me from maybe 6 am til around 8 pm. This time it has lasted me from 6 am to 8 am the nkhext morning. And still going strong.

Still 20% after 27 hours.
[Desire General] cez10:
Hmm i left my phone switched off and charging over night and since about 1h I'm using the WiFi to browse net and use palringo and my battery is at 82% ;( having obviously all updates off etc...
[Desire General] Arthur Hucksake:
I'm not so sure.

I went to bed last night with 100% battery.

Got up this morning, and what do I know.... 100% battery still.

The T-Mobile rom either isn't sleeping properly, or something in the background is going wrong with that build.