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[Touch2 Themes and Apps] yellowfever:
Looks like this is only a theme / skin for QVGA devices. TomTom is not freeware, so you need to buy it.

From what I read so far:

MEGA is the code name for this device, it should be oficcially called "HTC TOUCH2", not "HTC TOUCH PRO2". The latter sounds like a completely different device.

The normal edition should be T3333, T3320 is a low cost india edition without 3g, and without GPS. So I guess without a bluetooth connected GPS mouse you will not get GPS. Maybe through the GSM + Google location services you can get a rough location on google maps, but nowhere near accurate as necessary for navigation (needs GPS).

Sorry :(
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] yellowfever:
I guess he was thinking about a bluetooth GPS mouse, not about the integrated GPS in the T3333 / Touch2 / MEGA.

Actually also Wifi and GSM can somehow be used to get a location, but not really accurate at all. Not comparable with GPS anyway, and not enough for navigation.
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] Frank C:
Actually also Wifi and GSM can somehow be used to get a location, but not really accurate at all. Not comparable with GPS anyway, and not enough for navigation.

That is called A-GPS or assisted GPS. Can be useful in places with bad GPS signal as extra help.
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] csanil:
thanks guys for the info...
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] johnshembb:
By the way, anyone know which version of map is compatible with the TOMTOM 7.916? I found it was not able to recognize my map which worked fine in previous version of TOMTOM.

Thanks!
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] csanil:
thankssss...
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] Frank C:
Is your map activated? Or do you have an old map? There are many maps which work with 7.916.......all have different codes for windows mobile use.....

As example I use Europe 845.2647
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] JEFF__:
If tomtom gives the bttrayce error look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=567492
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] kdw1963:
Hi, when I installed TomTom on my Touch2 and restarted my device there was an error with bluetooth.

Tom Tom works great but I don't have bluetooth anymore, so I can't connect to my carkit.

I removeed TomTom and my bluetooth worked 100%.

somebody has a solution for this???

KdW
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] bib*oops:
Yellowfever is right: your device T3320 does not have a gps (built-in) receiver, so you can't use tomtom nor sygic mobile without an external gps receiver(connected via bluetooth)!
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] Frank C:
See reply 17 above your message for bluetooth fix. Also you should have correct version of 7.916......

If you need sens me a PM with your private mail adres.
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] hd2van:
will this work on winmo 6.5.5 builds too???
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] Frank C:
Not sure where your "this" refers to but if you mean TomTom or bluetooth fix than the answer is yes.....:)
[Touch2 Themes and Apps] samalam:
Is TOMTOM link above includes Maps download to work as standalone GPS?

Is there a way to download maps and POIs for TOMTOM and store it on my HD2's SD card?

I don't have data plan and want to use it as standalone GPS device when I need it. GoogleMaps and Bing don't allow me to cache the maps for offline use. I tried Global Navigator that allows maps caching, but does not do addresses or POIs search and also its not a neat user interface. Another option I may have is 'NDrive USA' maps from Windows Market place but it costs me atleast $30.

If TOMTOM is also one of those, please help me get one standalone GPS for my HD2 (WM6.5).
[HD2 General] vladimir2989:
is there a way to get Skype to work with Three network as GSM (no data) as on Three Phones u get of them ?

there is this

but as far as i undersand its a Java version of Skype not WinMo....

any ides ?
[HD2 General] deathtrap3000:
Yeh skype works on winmo. I think the app was already installed on my phone.
[HD2 General] pa49:
Seriously, as a senior member you should started with a search which pulls up lots of info about this including a post of mine from only 2 days ago!
[HD2 General] pa49:
It does not work in the way it does on 3 phones and they currently do not have any supported winmo phones so what phone do you have and was it supplied by 3.

3 phones have a special skype app bundled with them which detects that a 3 phone its being used as well as a legit 3 account. If neither are detected then the skype over 3 GSM network does not give free skype to skype calls.
[HD2 General] vladimir2989:
i did, and i found the Java version (.jad and .jar files), and i know there is Windows Mobile version of Skype but it will use DATA and charge for it... Three UK on thair own phones uses GSM channel to handle the call making it "data free"

the links in the links in the first post are dead and its stilla Java version of skype not the WinMo version ...

if u think ur thread have usfull info in it, can u post a link ?

and another reason for not doing proper search is that some results date back to 2008, and begging of of 2009

since then Skype stop development of skype for Windows Mobile, Three had relased new phones etc... things changed since...
[HD2 General] deathtrap3000:
Fortunately thats not how it works at all.

All 3 does is detect that the data is for skype and let it pass through uncharged. No complex phone or app checking.

edit: Hmm looks like I was wrong... Their credit check system is slow, unless something else used my credit.
[HD2 General] pa49:
xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6103143
[HD2 General] Raven78uk:
i started this thread as well few days ago

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=658679
[HD2 General] pa49:
You are incorrect in your assertion!

The 3 app is specifically written for sole use on their phones and their network.

You can't use it on an unrecognized phone as the dialer will simply not connect.
[HD2 General] pa49:
As you have found we are not talking about data transfer here.

Edit appreciated!
[HD2 General] vladimir2989:
so far i look through the to links you guys posted there nothing usefull in there, link in my first post is prob most usfull exept links in there are dead :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
Suggested thread from the one over iPhone because we were getting off topic. What are going to be the advantages of WP7 over Android that will keep everyone from switching to Google's open platform?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Integration with Microsoft's services.

I use them a lot and I like them, but they're not enough to keep me on WM. They will, unfortunately, also not be enough to make me get WP7. At least not until all of WP7's restrictions are lifted and I can find equivalents for all the apps I have on my phone now.

Other than that, unfortunately, there is nothing that WP7 does better than Android, from what I can see. I prefer Android's UI (tiles are just widgets, but widgets are better) and of course I prefer it's openness, customizability and the unlimited possibilities.

If you want notes and tasks, yes. But there are apps for that. Everything else is there.

But people are not buying operating systems, they are buying phones. They don't ask "what OS does this phone run". They ask "what can this phone do".

If they need Exchange, they will get a phone with Exchange.

Right. But I'll repeat myself:

People are not buying operating systems, they are buying phones. They don't ask "what OS does this phone run". They ask "what can this phone do".

If they need multitouch, they will buy a phone with multitouch.

Yes, we geeks ask "what OS does this phone run". But not normal people. We geeks can talk about fragmentation. Normal people will never think about that, they'll just ask "can this phone do what I want?".

Fragmentation is a non-issue. And it's not only bad. Android running on more phones means more customers, means more people buying apps, means more developers, means more apps, means more customers..................
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
1. Only high-end devices, which means apps won't be made for the least common denominator.

2. Native full multiple account Exchange support.

3. Built-in Office stuff, with Sharepoint (wow!)

4. MS-supplied drivers, made together with chip manufacturer, no crappy stuff from HTC or whoever.

5. Integration of web services (including third-party ones) in a meaningful way - contacts go to contacts, pictures to device picture library, without doing everything in a separate app - this way even I'll be using Facebook.

6. Real OTA updates, for all devices, because of a truly uniform platform.

7. Awesome UI, not a bland iPhone/WM third party launcher rip-off, both in terms of looks (subjective) and in terms of functionality (OS level widgets with rich APIs allowing to update text, graphics and animation). Hubs are an awesome idea too. Lots of text, easy to read/see what you need to tap. Everything I ever dreamed of in a UI actually.

8. Dev tools making creating awesome UI consistent with overall OS very easy.

9. Absolutely best video codec support out of the box, with perspective OTA additions for all devices.

10. Gorgeous desktop software for syncing stuff - Zune software is truly amazing - fast, flexible, great looking, I couldn't believe it were from Microsoft.

These are just a few things that came to mind immediately.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
Damn, great list! I couldn't of said it better myself. But you forgot Xbox live support and acheivements!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
1. Since the Market shows only compatible apps, apps do NOT have to be made for the least common denominator, like on WM

2. This is there on Android

3.

4.

5. This is actually better on Android with Sense.

6. Doesn't matter. People own one device, they don't care if others get OTA updates (talking about normal people)

7. The UI looks VERY ineffiecient. VERY VERY inefficient. Wasted space everywhere (why are the programs a freakin' list?! And why so few tiles per screen? That makes it VERY hard to get to apps). Android's UI is much better.

8. Dev tools are VERY restricted. Awesome UI yes, but no native APIs = Awesone looking apps with no functionality = useless

9. Not true. Some Android devices have better codec support OOTB.

10.

I'll agree with the rest, where I've not written something.

That's against:

1. Multitasking, enables lots of possibilities (streaming radio, IM clients and other clients, navigation)

2. Copy&paste

3. Customizability (not only looks, but also easily change the default apps for everything)

4. Apps, apps, apps - a huge market

5. A native development kit - enables much richer functionality for apps

6. More efficient UI

7. You don't have to pay for high-end phones and can still get lots of the functionality

8. Google services (hey, they're not THAT bad)

9. File system access - enables richer functionality for apps and removes the requirement for proprietary syncing methods (or emailind things to oneself :D).
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
2.1 in Nexus One doesn't do Calendar sync. Only with Google Calendar which I don't give a damn about. Third party apps do exist but they have limitations and their own problems; plus I don't want to rely on third parties (neither HTC nor things called Moxier) for this critical functionality.

Most Android phones suck. Nexus One is a great device except default UI and missing Exchange stuff; Desire has HTC built Exchange stuff but is the best one out there. Evo will be a serious contender when it comes out in a GSM incarnation, I'll take a close look at it.

It is. Yes, there are benefits to hardware variety (especially for Google), but the downsides exist as well. They are well known and documented, so no need to repeat the same stuff over and over. You can choose to ignore them but it doesn't change the fact that they exist. Froyo will try to address it. I'll take a look at Android then, again.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Strange. Mine does. :D

At least you get more than one. You usually buy only one phone, so why deos it matter to you whether other suck? Doesn't matter at all.

So far, the only thing that's been documented is that it is in fact NOT an issue:

Now you can keep repeating yourself, but even if you keep saying it a thousand times, fragmentation won't become an issue.

Just because you're repeating it doesn't mean it will become true.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
It's the same with WM. You see only a fraction of apps in Marketplace (granted, this is a joke of an appstore, but still). The problem is, when the overwhelming majority of devices are crap, that's what normal devs will target. And that's what they do.

No.

Not true. With Sense (which is a third party thing to begin with), you get what's built in. In WP7 you can have third party additional services hook into OS stuff in a very smooth way, way beyond the homescreen.

Right. Thing is, when Android 2.1 came out, how many devices get the OTA upgrade? What if the one device I own doesn't get it? If it will, will it work 100%? Will my hardware support features in 2.3?

I'll leave this without comment. I said that's the UI I could only dream of - it just implements almost everything I wanted.

Well, it's not "useless", but no arguing it's incredibly limited. Me, I need an ebook reader and a satnav app. No use in WP7 without this stuff and copy/paste, I'm just not buying it. It's in a way like early Android without NDK, only much better in terms of UI frameworks and dev tools. We'll see how it evolves, it's a big uncertainty now. I personally think that most of the limitations originate in the very simple fact that SL3 just doesn't have the necessary functionality, while SL4 isn't ready yet and therefore couldn't be ported. Among other problems, current SL doesn't have methods to interact with native code. I suspect that this, rather than some religious principles, is the reason for not getting much of the stuff needed. So, in a nutshell, Android's APIs are arguably better in most areas apart from UI. Yet WP7 is hard to beat in this department.

You missed the point. You get codec support from Samsung but not HTC, just like it is with WM. There's little to no chance you'll get it from Google.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Well, because I personally don't see a phone I would want to buy. That's one hell of a reason for me.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Care to comment all this stuff?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
No, it's not. You're completely wrong here.

Devs make the apps they want. They want a high quality graphics game, they make it. They want an app that runs on every device, they make it. No problem there!

Yes.

No. That's how it should be, but it's not. The dev tools don't allow enough integration.

Do you have an Android? If not, shut up. Cause I have one.

If you're not a geek, you don't care. Most people are not geeks. No problem here!

Lots of inefficiently used space is all you wanted? LOL

Exactly. That's why apps on Android will be much more functional. Maybe they don't look as beautiful, but they look good enough. WP7 will get lots of beautiful, awesome looking fart apps.

No, I didn't miss the point at all. Fact is, and I'm repeating myself again here, that people buy phones, not operating systems. They don't care whether the codec support comes from Google or HTC, they only care whether their phone can play their video or not.

Also, I don't see why Google wouldn't add codec suppot.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
What phone do you have? I'm sure my Nexus ca easily compete with it hardware-wise!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Don't know. I think I've downloaded a plugin or so. But I know it works on my phone.

EDIT: Ah well. That's what I did: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5553563&postcount=2

I see it has to be rooted, because it wants the file in /system.

Well, I give you the points for that, but nevertheless, it works on mine ;)

Plus, as I said, people buy devices. If they want Exchane, they ask "can this phone do Exchange" and if it's a Hero, Desire, Legend... then they get a "yes" and buy the device. I don't see any issue here.

The HTC apps are even better than the integration you get on WP7, or, at least as good. They merge your contacts together from Exchange, Google, SIM card, Facebook,...... just like WP7, but you get more control.

The Exchange mail inbox with HTC Sense is also better, or at least as good, as the Exchange inbox on WP7.

I really don't see an advantage for WP7 here. The HTC Sense stuff is just as good, or better.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Great argument. I won't. Shut up yourself if you want.

No arguing about functionality, at least in early WP7. I've already said I won't buy it for this reason. Yet it doesn't negate other benefits, including UI. And most Android apps look like crap to my taste.

Yes you did miss the point. I can only get codec support if I buy Samsung phones. And I don't want them. I want an HTC Evo. It doesn't have codecs built in, and there are no decent third party video players yet. That's a drawback of the platform. WP7 will have the edge here. Whether it's important for you or not is a different matter.

HD2. Until I see a GSM Evo I personally don't care for what else Android has.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I do. I've had enough experience with HTC software to not want it. Ever. You may argue they magically turned into a great software company when they began developing for Android, but I won't believe. Native support for Exchange will always be preferrable to me. For others as well, I know it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
On Android?

If not, don't judge it. Cause HTC's Android software is fine.

Their WM software only sucks because WM sucks.

Hm... let's see... my Nexus has the same hardware... except for the screen... which, frankly, looks much better than the HD2's (I had the HD2 before). It's also lighter, not such a fat brick. Still I prefer the HD2's Design, but that's not worth anything.

So I was right, your WM phone doesn't have better hardware...

No you missed the point. You buy phones, not operating systems. And by the way, starting from the Desire, HTC's phones get the same codec support.

You think you know more about Android, but you don't even have one! Really?! If you don't know something, don't talk about it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Why do Android fanboys have to be rude? I didn't offend you in any way. Yes I do know something about Android, even though you have more experience and deeper knowledge. Some of the things are common knowledge though, you don't have to own an Android device to know that none of them offer 4.3" screens. Fragmentation is a more general phenomenon than Android itself, and there's enough written and said about it, including acknowledgements by Google themselves. There's a lot of well documented information like lack of native Exchange support, and so on. So please let's not resort to trolling.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
I'm not rude, but this is true!

Don't pretend you know more about Android than someone who is actually using one.

Even "common knowledge" is often nonsense!

And please, stop talking about "native Exchange support". It does have native Exchange support, peroid.

You can say "no calendar without rooting" (which also is not true for HTC devices), but stop denying that it doesn't have native Exchange support. It even supports multiple Exchange accounts! And on an HTC device, I can have my Exchange, including the calendar, pushed to my phone, PLUS my GMail pushed. Try that on a Windows Mobile phone!
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I'm not pretending to know more about Android than you do. Never even tried.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sethos II:
Well, somehow you did.

Anyway, the iPhone is getting multiple Exchange account support. :D

I don't know, but I think this is all just embarrassing for Microsoft. I mean, yes, WP7 will also have that, but when? End of the year? Come on! WP7 should have been out one year ago!

And despite that it took so long, they couldn't even figure out multitasking or notifications! I mean, they had the iPhone, the Pre, Android and so on to copy from, but they even fail at copying the others!

Oh wow... now they've even announced a gaming network... OMG. This is it for WP7. How embarrassing...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shisney:
how do you know when u have a vga or wvga screen???? which one does the t-mobile tp2 have????
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveShaw:
WVGA.

Dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_VGA
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
vga (like the touch pro) is 640x480

wvga (like the touch pro 2) is 800x480
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Totallynewhere:
Hi all,

I'm new to the flashing rom thing but I flashed the latest energy rom for TP2 onto my tilt2. I just realized that the keyboard functions are considerably different since I flashed the new rom. I guess my device recognizes the keyboard as a Touch Pro 2 and not the Tilt 2 (AT&T) because the keys are mapped differently on the two devices. The TP2 has a row of numbers on top, while the Tilt 2 has the numbers accessible via the function key, and has symbols in place of the number row on the touch pro 2.

Is there a fix or a rom specifically for the tilt 2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] huggs:
Yes, there is a fix, go back to the page where you downloaded the rom, and right under where you click to download the rom is another link labeled something like "addons and hotfixes". Click that, go to the hotfixes, and get the ATTKeybdfix.cab and once installed you'll be back to normal. Check out the addons too, you might find something you like:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Totallynewhere:
Will look for it, thanks

Update: Thanks it worked!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] carlos_780:
Hi

I Have a ROM with the keyboard function of the TP2 installed in mi Tilt 2.

"ATTKeybdfix.cab" can convert mi TP2 Key functions in Tilt2 Functions??

I can´t find "ATTKeybdfix.cab". Can you put the link here, please?

...sorry for my bad english
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Kenichi:
Here you go, your ATT Keyboard fix :cool:

Hope it helps.
[Touch2 ROM Development] Der Dortmunder:
German:

Hi zusammen,

ich habe ein "jungfräuliches" HTC Touch2.

Ich hätte gerne ein neues ROM von Chris1983 geflasht. Trau mich aber nicht ran, weil ich mein HTC nicht abschießen will. Hat jemand eine genaue, deutsche Anleitung zum flashen?

English:

Hi everyone,

I have a "virgin" HTC Touch2.

I'd like a new ROM flashed by Chris1983. Trust me, ran not because I do not want to shoot my HTC. Does anyone have a precise, German guide to flash?