yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] johnboatcat:
It is spreading

Just days ago a Google search only turned up a few of the $300.00 ballpark T9193's. Now on sites like iOffer, Alibaba etc. there are hundreds. I stlii have no confirmed information that the possible wholesale price of this unit is in the $300.00 range.

It seems that the current "safest" low cost route for these phones is the austrailian ebay, ebay.com.au. You can find lower prices than the US ebay and some take paypal which can be paid for by credit card. Your US passwords work there as well. As always on ebay you should read the complete item page and research the seller. There is more on this in the T9193 thread.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] CyberClaw:
I don't know how many people use groups, but personally I think it'd be great to be able to quick link groups.

Any programmer up to the task? Is it even possible or feasible?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuestK00233:
I need a launcher like this without a 3d menu that works on 2.1 eclair roms HELP me android guys! http://bit.ly/dyzMVO #Android
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] donalgodon:
I've seen a few ROMs that have this feature on the HTC Calendar, and I think it looks nice, but I like the simple stock look of Sense. Can I do it myself in a simple way, without having to flash another ROM?

Is there a cab or reg edit that I can make to add Blue to Saturday, for example and Red to sunday?

Thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
If you are using ADB Shell on a Windows machine and try to LS with busybox on your phone it will add color coding along with directory and file names.

To get rid of this you need only need to type [1] in the command prompt.

If you would like an LL type function added you can also put in [2].

[1] alias ls='ls --color=never'

[2] alias ll='ls -la --color=never'

Is there any way to get these aliases to stick?

The aliases go away every time I open a new ADB Shell. :\

##########edit1

I found that you can use PuTTYcyg to properly display the colors if you have Cygwin installed on your machine.

I just selected "Cygterm" for "Connection type" and put "adb shell" in "Command (use - for login shell)".

I would still like to have an alias for LL at least if we can figure out a way to get the aliases to stick.

Thanks!

##########edit2

In case people have no idea what I'm talking about.

Busybox LS output with color in Windows CMD:

# ls
ls
←[1;34mcache←[0m ←[1;36metc←[0m ←[1;34mroot←[0m
←[1;34mconfig←[0m ←[1;32minit←[0m ←[1;34msbin←[0m
←[1;36md←[0m ←[1;32minit.desirec.rc←[0m ←[1;34msdcard←[0m
←[1;34mdata←[0m ←[1;32minit.goldfish.rc←[0m ←[1;34msqlite_stmt_journals←[0m
←[0;0mdefault.prop←[0m ←[1;32minit.rc←[0m ←[1;34msys←[0m
←[1;34mdev←[0m ←[0;0mlogo.rle←[0m ←[1;34msystem←[0m
←[1;34memmc←[0m ←[1;34mproc←[0m

Busybox LS output without color in Windows CMD:

# ls --color=never
ls --color=never
cache etc root
config init sbin
d init.desirec.rc sdcard
data init.goldfish.rc sqlite_stmt_journals
default.prop init.rc sys
dev logo.rle system
emmc proc

And now color just looks like one of the weirdest words to me after looking at it for so long....

COLOR.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
I got an LL going if anyone is interested. Basically using this guys instructions but making it for ll instead of dir.

1) Create a file named ll in /system/xbin

With this in it [NO COLOR]:

#!/system/xbin/sh

ll(){
ls -la --color=never $@
}
ll $@

OR

With this in it [COLOR]:

#!/system/xbin/sh

ll(){
ls -la $@
}
ll $@

2) Set file ownership/permissions

Get an ADB Shell:

cd /system/xbin
chown 0 ll
chmod 755 ll

The LL command will work immediately after setting ownership/permissions on the LL file. It's a workaround for now but works great.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
Updated first post.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Zibri:
Not at all :)

The shortest way to do it is:

# alias ls="ls --color=never"

:D

What I wonder is how to get rid of the annoying ECHO..
[Droid Eris Android Development] ScottHW:
Long term fix?

Any better ways to fix this? I never used to have this problem, but all of a sudden, after messing with ADB over WiFi, now I do have this problem

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=14564633

The alias only works for a single cmd session :(
[Droid Eris Android Development] ScottHW:
update

Small update: I noticed that I actually only have the problems with ls -al when the phone is fully booted. When I use adb booted in Recovery (CWM) the file listings are fine.

It's possible that I have never used adb while the phone is fully booted before, and just assumed that the Recovery behavior was universal and when I got the funky behavior, it wasn't messing around with ADB, it was just because I didn't know what "normal" was.

Short term fix is still just to use an alias for ls

But you have to redo it every time you restart adb :(
[HD2 General] tarekkkkk:
hey all , im having little issue right here i'm confused i've heard that there is four types of HD2 or 5 :confused: ,the four above i need to know when i'm heading to buy one that i can easily identify which one of the above the retailer is giving me so please guys guide me :D and by the way what's the real difference between them (color , hardware , case, i don't know...)

Or its just a rumor and when the retailer is giving me the hd2 is the same worldwide

and please if there's any advice i'll be greatly appreciated thx so much :o
[HD2 General] shu8i:
i know of t9193: australian model and can be used on at&t

t8585: european model

txxxx: don't know about the TMO US model :S

t3333: touch 2?

t7272: touch pro?
[HD2 General] cobrasixtysix:
T9193 has a little more onboard memory than T8585 and supports Telstra NextG.

Also supports Telstra 850mhz coverage in country areas.

T8585 does not support NextG but supports Optus 3G and 900mhz coverage in country areas.

Hope I got that right. Cheers, T.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
Nope, telstra and regular leo have the same ram (448, unockable to 576)

There are three models of HD2, not five,

t7272 is the touch pro

t3333 is the touch2

T9193 is the telstra and uses

GSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/2100MHz

T8585 is the regular HD2 and uses

GSM 850/900/1800/1900, UMTS 900/2100MHz

Not sure what the model number of the tmous is (PB81120 is the model ID) and it works on

GSM850/900/1800/1900, UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)

The telstra and the regular are identical to look at, not sure how you would confirm which is which, , boot to bootloader and check the model ID, i guess.

The tmous is easy to spot, it has a red end key and a green send key, the other two have white keys, and the tmous says 't mobile' beneath the earpiece.
[HD2 General] veda_sticks:
if you go to settings, about, phone identity it tells you the model number there. along with the imei and the s/n

My hd2 came from the UK (tmobile uk)

model number is HTC HD2 T8585

Another giveaway of the US model is that the flash memory size will be 1024 instead of 512mb
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
but be aware that if you are using a cooked rom it will show the phone model associated with the base rom, not necessarily teh actual phone.
[HD2 General] veda_sticks:
very good point, did not know this.

well if the phone is unmodified it would be a good indicator of model.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
EDIT - Actually, its not necessarily the base rom model id it shows, it can be changed easily, for instance mine shows model No 'SamS BabY' cos i cook my own.
[HD2 General] Runit1:
Is there any other way of telling by IEMI or serial # what model one has. Bought one of EBAY and the box said T9193 all the #'s matched but the model# on the phone menu said 8585. The body of phone says NextG and also has a T with a circle looking thing. Also I have it hooked up to AT&T and it does say At&T 3G on the display for the current network. Picked it up on Ebay for 335 shipped from a seller in Canada It had like 75hrs out and like 8 hurs in on the clock but the phone looks like new no wear indicators at all. Almost like the hours are from tethering so just sat on a desk.
[HD2 General] Wilco:
IF you scroll to the end, to the settings screen, scroll up and open "About Phone"

Then open Hardware.

What doe the phone say about ROM, RAM, and storage sizes?

go back, open software information

What radio version doe you have?

Phone, menu, options, menu, network selection

Go to Band, List the options under GSM/UMTS band.

These will help to identify wether your phone is TMOUS, Telstra (T9193) or standard (T8585)
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
"t with a circle", the regular hd2 has no branding on the case at all,sounds telstra to me. if you are seeing 8585 in the "about phone" page, that info is all read from the registry so if you aren't running the stock rom it will show the wrong info.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
you can't trust that if you arent on the stock rom, see image, , ,they are just registry entries and will say what the registry tells them to say, i.e the bands of the base rom not the hardware.
[HD2 General] Wilco:
The only certain way is to try and download ROM updates from HTC.

It will check you SN.

The ROM you can download is the phone you get.

So Try downloading Telstra update,

WWE update, and look for which roms are available from where you bought the device....

Could be long search....
[HD2 General] the-wrangler:
ive got one in canada (t9193) and yes if youve got the NextG and telstra symbol on the body of the phone then youre good to go for AT&T
[HD2 General] GulDucat:
I'm 99% sure that Circle and T is Telstra which would indicate its a T9193. The only exception I can think of is if the prior owner used a Telstra branded housing to replace one that was branded differently. With there being so much selling going on for OEM and non-OEM used and new parts, unless you know the pedigree of the phone, it's kind of hard to determine.

I'm very new to the HD2 world having bought my first one just recently from a fellow in Australia. This forum and the friendly members are an awesome resource for information. I'm learning something new every day just be sifting through all these threads. Going blind doing so too!:eek:
[HD2 General] Runit1:
CPU is Qualcomm(R) 8250B

Speed is 1024

RAM is 448

ROM is 1.48.707.2 (71294) WWE

Flash size is 512

Storage is 195.42

Data Bus 32 Bits

Radio ver. 2.05.51.05_2

OS version 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)

The bands from what I read don't matter to much since you can change the rom and might not show the 850 band.

GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)

GSM (1900)+UMTS(850)

GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850+2100)

GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850)

Hope this helps, i did load a cab. for the telstar bands to apear. because they were not originally there.It was called Agoattamer telstar band type settings.

I copied down as it appears on the screen
[HD2 General] Runit1:
Thanks I did read that some were else that the band settings dont mean to much as they can be changed to say pretty much what ever.
[HD2 General] Runit1:
I thought of that too changed housings. Phones looks absolutely new but it had 75 hours on the meter so. not unless it had a full housing to keep it looking like that. Seller has a perfect score 77 and 100% on ebay. item #120619427477 asked if it was a T9193 said yes that why i jumped on the deal.
[HD2 General] Runit1:
Thanks Guys for all your reply's. I did not think of it Thanks Wilco for the idea. Found the Australian web site for HTC and entered ser# an in deed it is a Telstar. phone person i got it from must of flashed it no big deal though. Now just got to make sure it has the right SPL for further flashing. By the way you guys recommend to do the ROM from the HTC web site or should I keep what I got.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nortynort:
Not really a big fan of the placement of the back button on the Hero. Its okay if you use it horizontally but I prefer to use it in portrait. Is there any way to remap it onto any of the other buttons?
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] yilmaz101:
Hi all,

I am writing from Turkey, and my question is concerning an LG GSM smartphone called the GM735. There is a thread here on XDA about rom development for this device, but it has not really gotten along any distance so I thought I'd ask here. This device is shipped out with win 6.1, there is a similar (spec sheetwise identical) device called the GM730 that is sold in other markets and LG has just come out with a win 6.5 rom for those devices. I understand (from what I've read on a Turkish board) that the 6.1 roms for both the 730 and the 735 will work on each other but the 6.5 rom is not flashing correctly and in many instances it's just bricking the phone. What I am really curious about is if LG uses some sort of a device lock like SPL or something similar. Has anyone ran across anything like and SPL unlocker for the LGs?

Currently there is an Ukranian fellow who has somehow modified a 6.1 rom to include 6.5 interface (the rom says its 6.1 but the menu and all else is 6.5) but it is very immature and nonfunctional in many ways (ie no sound, no BT, no wi-fi, etc etc etc). So what I'm really hoping for is maybe some sort of an unlocker so that we can flash the LG released 730 win 6.5 rom on our 735s.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Cheers.
[eXpo GW820, GW825 IQ ROM Development] killerskincanoe:
yea id stick to the threads in the general section. or get enough people to vote for your own subforum. thats what we did.

p.s. ive searched all across these boards and not seen a SPL for any lg fone. i believe its a diff file structure than htc devices and doesnt require the same thing in order to flash.
[HD2 General] ox_eye:
Hello all,

I have a problem with the Sense Player. Since today the HTC Sense is crashing and restarting new if I go to the Sense Player. I have no music on my mobile. Do someone something know about that problem?

Edit:// I found the reason. There was a bad mp3 track on my storage card. After deleting it works fine.
[HD2 General] gadgetmaster07:
I have this problem also, but the only way i can get around it is by deleting the Audiomanager_Eng in "Application Data\HTC".

...Can you explain what you mean by a bad mp3 file?
[HD2 General] toxtrepla:
Most likely a corrupted or incomplete track. It happens often and can cause various issues with audio players.
[HD2 General] ox_eye:
Correct. There was a mp3 track about 700 kb on my storage card. This song was incomplete. After deleting this file everything works fine again.
[HD2 General] Zaruak:
Problem solved. Thanks

Thanks for your solution. I was searching around for several days and the only idea so far, other than deleting all audio files which did not help, was to hard reset. Deleting this folder solved the issue.

The problem is that I don't know the cause for the issue to happen. I did not find any "bad" mp3 file. Some folks are posting issues with ID3 identifacation or imbeved album art.

As my machine does not crash now, and knowing this great solution, I will try again.

Thanks

Zaruak
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] zulvkr:
after tried several rom,i found some rare problem on my mt3g(maybe).

on hero rom:

1. my phone always show headset icon on top bar (kings [1.1,1.3],kings droid eris 1.1.2,qtek,ace cupcake hero).

2. i can't hear sound from my speaker when i set phone ringtone,when someone call(ringtone and people voice),but notification it's okay.i must use headset to hear the sound.this happen on kingdroid eris an ace rom.i didn't try on qtek because to much fc .

3. when i flash kings rom,i don't have problem.it can boot.but when i use ace rom,mlign,jac rom.it will stuck on mt3g green screen.so i try to connect usb cable and use adb logcat to know what the problem when my phone booting.and this is the weird miracle happen.use adb logcat(not yet tried another adb command) when phone boot make ace cupcake rom can boot and run.i not yet try this method on mlign or jac rom.on log cat,it's written dalvik bla bla freeze if i not wrong.i try to pull out the usb cable and reboot the phone,the result is my phone stuck again in mt3g green screen.so i must use usb cable+adb logcat to boot ace rom.i think this problem will happen if i use mlign.

4. can't hear sound from built in speaker when play music,youtube,video.no problem if i use headset

on cyanogen.

1. phone ringtone dont have problem.but i cant hear sound when play music,youtube,video.

i think i have problem with my usb port.and this is that make me more confused. i try flash Blue Magic MKIIr1 and all the problem above not happen.

everything is okay.

i'm really gratefull if someone can show me the way to fix this problem.thank u so much
[Nexus One General] snavid972:
I just bought the phone from a guy on craigslist , he never mentioned anything about it being rooted so im curious if this phone has been rooted and im sure you can if you guys say the phone cant be relocked how can you tell if its unlocked or locked?
[Nexus One General] krumb:
unlocked padlock at initial boot screen?
[Nexus One General] faraz1992:
Just reboot the phone and see if it shows the icon of an unlocked padlock. If yes, then its rooted (your warranty is void). If no, then you're good...
[Nexus One General] pzumk:
isn't the bootloader just unlocked when having the unlocked padlock?

rooting actually needs a second step. Correct me if im wrong
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
1. Download

N1 Torch

from the Market

2. Run it

3. Tell us what happens
[HD2 General] hujintao:
i am stay in england. i want to buy the new hd2.:p

thx
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Do yu really want a phone that is bigger than the one you'd get locally, and won't be able to use 3G? ;)
[HD2 General] hujintao:
jailBrokenxxxxx......:mad:
[HD2 General] Archer:
I agree with the lack of 3G being an issue, but I've gotta have a great big LOL at the size comment. LOL mate - funny.
[HD2 General] FloatHeavy:
I've been meaning to ask this question. So how much difference is the size? I heard it was not very noticable. I saw a link that was posted to a blog somewhere. I'm not sure how credible that source is. Is it taller or wider? By how much?
[HD2 General] hujintao:
i just know the euro version is 448MB RAM + 512MB ROM but, t-mobile us is 576MB RAM + 1GB ROM.
[HD2 General] Archer:
It's 1.5mm taller - that's all (EU HD2 is 120.5mm and the HD2b is 122mm tall).

The EU version also has 576MB RAM. It's just the ROM that's different.
[HD2 General] alefsin:
It is 1.5mm taller. I'm not sure that it will not work on 3G in UK: from the specs it seems that it DOES support 2100MHz UMTS (band I) so it should work in Europe. Notice that the G1 had the same specs and many users reported success when used in Europe.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
In that case the European ones should have worked in the US (still talking of 3G of course), but we know they don't...
[HD2 General] alefsin:
No why should they? It is very simple to understand how 3G works in different place and with different phones:

T-mobile 3G network operates on UMTS band IV (i.e. 1700 MHz upload and 2100 Mhz download).

ATT operates on UMTS bands II and V (1900 MHz and 850 MHz).

Most European networks are UMTS band I (2100 MHz) and sometimes band VIII (900 MHz).

Now, the specs of TOMUS version of HD2 says that it works BOTH on band I and band IV. That is why it can work both on US T-mobile network and in Europe. It cannot work on the ATT 3G network though.

The EU version of HD2 works on bands I and VIII so it cannot work on either of US 3G networks.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
OK, hadn't seen that.
[HD2 General] alefsin:
Here is the relevant part from the TMOUS HD2 specs:

Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100).

I'm living in US now but I'll move to Switzerland within a few months. I have ordered this phone for myself since I want to use in Europe.

Btw kilrah, maybe when I arrive in Zurich (that's where I'm going to live) I'll come and visit you :)
[HD2 General] a_ok2me:
Unlocked TMOUS For Sale

I have one unlocked that I might sell if TMobile decides to charge me a restocking fee to return it. Given the demand I was thinking of selling it for $550usd.
[HD2 General] Fame123:
HI

My HTC sense doesnt load up on start up. I have restarted many times but still no luck.

1. How can I load it up again?

2. Or is there a way to re-install it?

3. Is there a OEM cab to re-install the htc sense to load up again?

Many Thanks

Fame123
[HD2 General] cMMY69:
Hi, A hard (factory) reset is the equivalent of reinstalling everything (inlcuding Sense) although you will lose any data on the phone. Details of how to do soft and hard resets will be in the manual you got with your phone. If you have a custome ROM I'm guiessing reflashing it is an equivlent solution (I'm on stock ROM so can't offer advice on that).

Hope this helps.
[HD2 General] Fame123:
Hi cMMY69

Thanks for reply. I have OEM Rom 1.66x. So when hard reseting, thats cool I know how do that. But when re-installing backed up data won't that over write the hard reset I have done?

Also is there a cab file of htc sense, that can overcome this problem too?

Many thanks

Faheem
[Imagio General] s.mourer:
I have a HTC Imagio and the pictures I receive in MMS messages are very small, does anyone know what I can do to fix this problem?
[Imagio General] 6dakota6:
MMS Pics tiny on HTC Imagio

not really a fix, the other phones have small res or pixels and the imagio has a higher res and pixels and the only way to zoom is to save the pix and view the pix in the viewer then using the zoom bar.:(

it would be nice to have an app that had the mms zoom and have a text to speech to read the text like the LG touch.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nintendolinky:
Sooo, the phone has been released in the UK. Does anyone have a clue how I can get this phone unlocked to all networks, I have tried a Rebelsim II but I cant seem to get it to work, or know what mode its supposed to be on, it worked fine in a Hero.

Thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sutty86:
after trying to ut the new updated villian onto my phone it wont boot, im using the latest radio version,

it comes up ith quieley brilliant screen but no further been stuck there for over a hour

i believe its something to do with the partition

when i goto my sd card in recovery on the computer it only shows 900mb when it used to be 2gb

im using the latest amon recovery bootloader, please help
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] immya:
same problem here, only thing is mt sd card isnt partitioned
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
try a wipe and boot without sdcard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Nekogr:
Hello guyz,

akis here anyway wanted to ask any1 if there is an app to make the ringtone(for sms ofc) stop ringing when i open the sms or when the phone does something(like opening the screen or anything) cause i have managed to put a song i want but i don't want to trim it cause i may not hear it or anything i want to ring until something happens to the phone as i said b4... anyway ty....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dnahughes:
when u get ur sms tap the screen it will stop works 4 me :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Asasy:
just press the volume up or down it will be stop ringing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Nekogr:
no it will play the whole song... even if i turn it to vibration it will keep playing until the song ends...:(maybe if i use one of the programs that help put whatever song you want for ring tone that would help???any1 who has used?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dnahughes:
get urself the htc mp3 trimmer u can cut the song down to 10 seconds or use whatever part u like it works great:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Nekogr:
I said why i don't want to use an mp3 trimmer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dnahughes:
u can use any song or sound u want just drop the file into your windows file on your device file explorer .hope this helps sorry didnt understand

ur goal to play the whole song