yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire General] Bumble-Bee:
1) there us no known way to unlock the desire bootloader to allow rooting at this time

2) even if there was without an SPL exploit (we dont have atm) we cant relock
[Desire General] topdnbass:
I see.

So nobody has tried to flash a nexus-compatible SPL yet?

I'd assume that it would work without a hitch.

Is there such a SPL exploit for the nexus? If so, we could deduce that one will come around for the desire eventually.
[Legend General] zorbakun:
Hey guys, i'm planning on buying this phone but i have some concerns and questions for those of you, who already have the phone and can fully answer my questions. please no predictions only confirmed and 100% trusted answers.

1- Is the phone aluminium body scratch resistant or it looks like it will scratch easily and ruin the phone looks??

2- I need more info on the Wifi signal strength and functionality, is it dodgy or stable, how far from the router and you can still get good signal?

3- What about bluetooth Audio streaming to stereo bluetooth headsets, is it smoooth and working ok, does it support ID tags, skipping, rewinding and such controls?

4- Is the Legend screen glass or plastic and again will i need a screen protector from day one or it can withstand normal usage without any protection?

5- Did anyone try VOIP and can share his experience and how did the phone fair in placing and receiving calls on both 3G networks and through WIFI?!

6- Finally Does the phone support unicode characters, like reading arabic in TXT Msgs, mails and or in any application on the phone?

7- How does the loudspeaker fair, is it good & loud enough?

Thanks all :)
[Legend General] KarmaXXK:
I'll see what I can do.

The unibody looks and feels the same as my unibody MacBook Pro, which is unscratched since last October. I think it's going to be fine.

I don't use Wifi much, sitting next to the router works fine for sure though. I can't comment on anything else.

No idea, but if it's anything like Android 1.6, it supports play/pause and skipping tracks at least. I've sold my BT headset long ago.

That's something I also want to know.

Nope, haven't tried.

Not really. I tried the Wikipedia page for the Arabic language, the characters show up as rectangles. And I don't know of any way of writing Arabic characters.

Neither. It really sounds weak and cheap.
[Legend General] gringooo:
Actually, loudspeaker is one of the best I have ever heard.

Look at the bottom of htis page:

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_legend-review-462p4.php
[Legend General] KarmaXXK:
That's great and all, but 1) there's more to speakerphone than volume alone, and 2) I've experienced otherwise.
[Legend General] gringooo:
Yes, there is more than a volume, and that is why Legends speakerphone is one of the best-loud and clear sound. Try to listen carefully, in silent room how much is sound clear with minimum noise.
[Legend General] kfai:
hello~

i have another question about HTC legend.

Do legend have the multi-touch problem as Nexus one and desire?

Can give some examples on the application which legend is hard too handle.

My english is not good, so please tell me if what i mentioned is unclear.

Thank you very much.
[Legend General] zorbakun:
Thanks all but i still need more answers, anyone else willing to help provide some answers :)
[Legend General] beetleman:
1. Well it is and it isnt (I bought a cool puch for the cell, on some reviews they said that it can be scratchable).

2. WiFi, I am about 15m away in other room and I have signal, it is very good, in comparation with other phones, it has better signal than iPhone.

3. Sorry, didnt try, but I connected it to my Pioneer bluetooth mp3 radio and on the screen I saw the name of song. (Screen of mp3 car radio).

4.It is plastic and it is not scratch resistante, so you can use protection (I dont use it, I am holding phone in pouch).

5. I use it on Fring, it works just fine.

6. I dont know.

7.It is just fine. no problems.
[Legend General] HishamN:
Dear Karma,

Below a picture taken from Legend and you can see Arabic language on it, could you please confirm if your Phone look like it in first boot?

If yes could you please upload your ROM to port into Hero?

BR
[Legend General] logoo:
Hi, are you sure it is a plastic screen? Because after reading some reviews, some say that it is a plastic screen scratch sensible wheras a lot of french sites say it is a glass screen...

It is a very important factor for me and maybe for a lot of people, can someone confirm this? :)

Edit: here you can see a scratch test of the hero youtube.com/watch?v=JYZWyGxg6Uw

If the legend is the successor of the hero, i believe it has a scratch resistant screen too? ^^
[Legend General] irkan:
I wouldnt count on that, as the Legend and Hero have different screens, Hero have TFT while Legend have AMOLED display
[Legend General] MyrdhinM:
Great phone

..so i went searching and i found:

I really was convinced the screen was made of glass tho, feels like it and after a good 3 weeks of using it, no scratch at all.

When I hit it with a knife it really sounds like glass does, but that says nothing

Just that im not sure what to believe, especially after finding:

Im not doing the scratch test tho..:o

Zorbakun you come with questions which are better answered if the phone actually excisted longer then a month.

Like if the aluminium scratches easily

, I say it does not, but maybe im just to good for my phone, All i know is that after 5 seconds of rubbing it looks as good as new.

About the Wi-fi

, i'll have to agree with beetleman, at 15m distance you'll have connection.

Speaker

is no good, seriously dont even enable ur ringtone or people'll laugh at you.:p

Nah its not that bad, and its actually quite loud idd but high tones distort.

The sound quality is just not as good as my SE K850i. Im comparing them as we speak and i discover that its mainly the bass that is completly absent which gives high treble to the Legends sound.

Im a bit disappointed to be honest.

Overall i'd say: buy this thing. Its fast, its smooth, its solid, its android, its new, and the looks are great.

PS. About the sound.. There is a great way to compensate: vvww.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19997

Best price/quality speaker on the market, read the reviews. [Free WW shipping]
[Legend General] gringooo:
Its pretty odd that many people are used to noisy distorted high frequency sounds. And when came Legend with minimum noise, clear sound, without those irritating frequencies, people just dont like it. SE K850i sound is just to ridiculous to be compared with sound of HTC Tattoo, not to speak of comparing it to HTC Legend.
[Legend General] MyrdhinM:
Are you saying the SE K850i's got crappy sound? Then i know for a fact that you either havent heard the K850i or the Legend. But i suspect neither...

My SE has great sound, its even got a bit of bass which comes in handy when listening to hip hop and.. well everything..

Im fine with my legend cuz i carry my portable speaker everywhere i go, but otherwise i would be pretty bummed out.

I can see ppl are hyped up about the speaker sound of the Legend, but it just wont live up to those expectations.

I went testing the sound again and i have to admit the sound is quite clear,

but thats mainly because of the amount of treble, which is too much, which makes it sound like a cheap speaker imo..

Allso when I listen to this piece of classical music "Miserere mei deus"

there's static and distortion through the whole fckin song. And when she hits the high C it sounds like my phone just vibrates apart, i litteraly feel the back comming loose, and unfortunately thats what you hear aswell.

With other songs its fine, just not a great quality speaker,

And dont worry the phone wont fall apart, its a one-piece armor after all..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] refyused:
It's been awhile since I did any of this, last time I messed with making a ROM was when I had the HTC Wizard. Now I'm on the AT&T Tilt 2 and I'm trying to figure out what programs are needed to cook a ROM..

So, any suggestions? I wouldn't mind suggestions for a good registry editor too, and anything else you might think is useful. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rgb-rgb:
There is a whole Forum answering these questions.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=612
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] refyused:
Yeah thanks. This site's got a lot of forums, must have overlooked that section.
[Nexus One General] jruweaver:
OK I noticed today that when my N1 is conected to wifi i cant download any apps from the market it just stalls at the starting download message it does not start til a few minutes after disable wifi unless i sign in to google talk so out of curiosity i attempted to sign in to google talk while connected to wifi and it says "Could not connect to server. Will retry shortly" as soon as i disable wifi it connects no problem this is so annoying! Any help is appreciated!
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Here, have some of these:

...........

(Is that really all one sentence? Jesus...)
[Nexus One General] jruweaver:
LOL periods are overrated what i need is help with my wifi issue thanks for the english lesson though mom ;-)
[Nexus One General] tjp888:
I had the same problem. It turned out to be a problem with the wifi router I was connected to. I read in the google help forum that you need to be able to open up a particular port to be able to successfully download apps. Sorry, I don't remember the port. I solved it by just connecting to a different access point (I was at work).
[Nexus One General] jruweaver:
Thanks i thought that was probablly something like that :-)
[Nexus One General] keet:
I think that it is T.C.P. port 5228; you need to allow outbound traffic.
[Nexus One General] jruweaver:
on a public connection at the moment but i will make a note of that setting for my home router. Thanks!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ArtieQ:
I wonder if it's possible to show appointments on the home screen all the time, I think the next appointment starts showing 1 week before the actual event.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Intermec:
cookies home tab
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ramdroid77:
yes, definitely!

PLUS it also shows missed calls in the homescreen.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] krosfate:
im sorry but how do you navigate to the cookies Home tab?:(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Bruce Inman:
You have to install CHT, it replaces your home screen.

Then you install the CHT settings app to change it.
[Windows Mobile Themes] aleksander100:
Best iPhone Clone Program For Windows Mobile Phones

as seen here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PooqL1WkHmo

I am the one who created the iPhone theme version 6, 3 years back, it was a great success but there were issues with the fact that it did not work with wm6 and also there were newer versions of wisbar released, which made me create this new theme, in this time i sold my old o2 XDA IIi and now have an N97 but i am seriously disappointed with it. So i download the wm6 SDK and created the new theme on it, the new wisbar allowed me to create same transition effects as that on iPhone.

I am soon going to post the theme on my website http://appleiphone.110mb.com/

and my blog

http://aleksander100.blogspot.com/

Stay tunned and hope you all like the theme.
[Windows Mobile Themes] aleksander100:
looks like there is no more point developing.
[Windows Mobile Themes] thepolishguy:
I am just offering some feed back. I am not try to bash or discourage or upset. There is already a very good iPhone clone that is currently actively being developed. I think it would be pretty hard to beat. So I just wanted to give you a heads up. You can check it out here if you want to...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=633618
[Windows Mobile Themes] Fedr0:
Honestly I don't think it's bad, but I don't understand why you'd want to emulate an iPhone on a WM device. Get an iPhone instead.
[Windows Mobile Themes] chiks19018:
who r u alexander? a white kid living in India? confused...
[Windows Mobile Themes] thepolishguy:
I can think of a couple of reasons.

1. "Sense" as a UI is a total resource hog. When I was using it as my today plug in I would boot at like 70% and be up to 80% after a couple of hours. When I boot up with iPhoneToday as my today plug in I boot at 50%. Makes quite a difference in the speed at which my phone responds.

2. Using sense I push a button to to go to my start menu. Then I push a button to go to my settings. Then I push a button to go to my Comm Manager. Then I push a button to Turn on my Wifi. Using iPhoneToday I push my Wifi button and I am done.

3. How about this one. When I was running the stock Verizon Rom with "Sense" I had 100mb free for storage and 60mb free for memory. When the HSPL came out for my phone (the Imagio) and I was able to get a cooked Rom with Titanium only (no Sense) I now have 210mb of free storage and 90mb of free memory.

So- there are a couple of reason. I could list more. But people that hate the iPhone wouldn't care what I say. It won't matter to them bc they have predetermined that anything that starts with a little "i" is the enemy.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Lunie:
^Depends on what phone you have.

Srsly why not get an iphone? emulating iphone on a winmo device is just ridiculous. :\

I <3 my x1 winmo device, the sense ui is a defnite bonus. ♥
[Windows Mobile Themes] Fedr0:
I'd really like to see the differences in eye candy and animations level.

Check this.

And? Couldn't you use a memory card to store your data? Do you need to run any complex 3D simulation programs on your smartphone?

I don't hate it at all. I simply find it really limiting to my needs. Heck, I made my wife take one on subscription, considering her computer is an iMac and that she has not all my needs on a phone (a work companion).

Said that, I still think that if you really want an iPhone, just buy (or subscribe) one. You'd be happier than with a clone. ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] jonbus:
Honestly I hate that WinMo users try to convert their devices to Iphones...

And that mere statement is a PRO about WinMo: It is soo versatile, that you can simulate any UI you want, from Iphone to Android...that´s something you can´t do in an Iphone...

There´s a lot of beautiful UI´s for WinMo: TF2D, TF3D, RLToday, SPShell, Bell UI, Point UI, Titanium, etc, etc, etc...

Anyway, if you need/want an UI similar to Iphone´s, have you ever try Vito Winterface? I´ve seen an Iphone skin around xda...

Regards
[Windows Mobile Themes] aleksander100:
few things i dint mention--

the theme supports landscape,

at&t brings out start menu

and the theme doesn't look smooth as hypercam dint record it well.

The wallpaper can be set by the user as per his/her desire.

More icons in development and vga version is also in making.
[Windows Mobile Themes] alexanderi:
Please make it compatible with WVGA. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Themes] aleksander100:
will surely do so
[Windows Mobile Themes] sureshot007:
I've been using IPT for months now and I love it because it's simple, gives me what I am looking for quickly, easy to use/configure, and fast. I hate - HATE!!!! - the WM6.5 default look. Sense sucks too as far as I'm concerned. I'm not hell bent on having an iphone clone, but I would just like a screen with all the info right there, and not tabs to scroll through. I'd switch to something else if it was better, but I have yet to find it.
[HD2 General] MonnieRock:
Hello Everyone,

All of you that are using a custom ROM and/or Radio on your T-Mobile USA HD2 and are located in the USA, could you please run this test for me while connected to 3G?

Speedguide.net TCP/IP Analyzer

I noticed the RWIN values that T-Mobile are having on the stock ROM really neuter the throughput on the phone. Look at the RWIN values :mad:

Please post:

1) OS Version

2) Manila Version

3) ROM Version

4) Radio Version

5) Protocol Version

6) On 3G or not

7) The results from the test( there is a window at the bottom to copy and paste)

Here is mine:

1) OS: 5.2.21889(21889.5.0.87) 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE (stock shipping US Rom)

2) Manila: 2.5.20121412.1

3) ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE

4) Radio: 2.08.50.08_2

5) Protocol: 15.34.50.07U

6) 3G with 4 bars

7) Results:

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »

Tested on: 03.28.2010 16:35

IP address: 208.54.xx.xxx

Client OS: Windows XP

TCP options string: 0204058c0101040201030302

MSS: 1420

MTU: 1460

TCP Window: 5840 (NOT multiple of MSS)

RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)

Unscaled RWIN : 1460

Recommended RWINs: 65320, 130640, 261280, 522560, 1045120

BDP limit (200ms): 234kbps (29KBytes/s)

BDP limit (500ms): 93kbps (12KBytes/s)

MTU Discovery: ON

TTL: 164

Timestamps: OFF

SACKs: ON

IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

Thank you, I appreciate your help:

Baenwort
[HD2 General] Baenwort:
1)5.2.21889(build 21889.5.0.87) Stock shiping US rom

2)2.5.20121412.1

3)2.10.531.1(82076)WWE date(2/22/10)

4)2.08.50.08_2

5)15.34.50.07U

6)3G with 2 bars

7)Results:

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »

Tested on: 03.28.2010 17:59

IP address: 208.54.x.xxx

Client OS: Windows XP

TCP options string: 0204058c0101040201030302

MSS: 1420

MTU: 1460

TCP Window: 5840 (NOT multiple of MSS)

RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)

Unscaled RWIN : 1460

Recommended RWINs: 65320, 130640, 261280, 522560, 1045120

BDP limit (200ms): 234kbps (29KBytes/s)

BDP limit (500ms): 93kbps (12KBytes/s)

MTU Discovery: ON

TTL: 162

Timestamps: OFF

SACKs: ON

IP ToS: 00000000 (0)
[HD2 General] MonnieRock:
Please Participate

Hello Everyone,

Please participate in this knowledge base. We will all benefit in the long run. Takes less than 2 mintues to run the test and post results here.

Thank you,

Monnie
[HD2 General] miguel4u2:
I will do it tomorrow as soon as i get mines. Promise. Do you mind me asking, what do you intend to do with this information?
[HD2 General] MonnieRock:
My theory is, some network throttling is going on from the network level which would prevent customers from receiving full bandwidth.

Thank you,

Monnie
[HD2 General] sycohnda209x:
« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »

Tested on: 03.30.2010 04:17

IP address: 208.54.xx.xx

TCP options string: 020405b40402080a1b5abfea0000000001030307

MSS: 1460

MTU: 1500

TCP Window: 5888 (NOT multiple of MSS)

RWIN Scaling: 7 bits (2^7=128)

Unscaled RWIN : 46

Recommended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920, 1027840

BDP limit (200ms): 236kbps (29KBytes/s)

BDP limit (500ms): 94kbps (12KBytes/s)

MTU Discovery: ON

TTL: 49

Timestamps: ON

SACKs: ON

IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

tmobile hd2

os 6.5 running energy march 26 ROM
[HD2 General] ZaidSenall:
Here's what I got:

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »

Tested on: 03.30.2010 11:15

IP address: 208.54.xx.xx

Client OS: Windows CE

TCP options string: 0204058c0101040201030302

MSS: 1420

MTU: 1460

TCP Window: 5840 (NOT multiple of MSS)

RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)

Unscaled RWIN : 1460

Recommended RWINs: 65320, 130640, 261280, 522560, 1045120

BDP limit (200ms): 234kbps (29KBytes/s)

BDP limit (500ms): 93kbps (12KBytes/s)

MTU Discovery: ON

TTL: 164

Timestamps: OFF

SACKs: ON

IP ToS: 00000000 (0)

Now what?
[HD2 General] baymon:
I'd be more than glad to help, but I barely get stable 3G connection in my house. I will update once I get a 3G connection.

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »

Tested on: 03.30.2010 13:21

IP address: 208.54.xx.xx

TCP options string: 0204058c0101040201030302

MSS: 1420

MTU: 1460

TCP Window: 5840 (NOT multiple of MSS)

RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)

Unscaled RWIN : 1460

Recommended RWINs: 65320, 130640, 261280, 522560, 1045120

BDP limit (200ms): 234kbps (29KBytes/s)

BDP limit (500ms): 93kbps (12KBytes/s)

MTU Discovery: ON

TTL: 161

Timestamps: OFF

SACKs: ON

IP ToS: 00000000 (0)
[HD2 General] FreakyFerret:
I tried that page. I had the same numbers. But, last night, I did a SpeedTest with my phone. I got 600+ kbps download from one of the test servers. I was able to reproduce that result as well. From another test server I would get around 300+ kbps.

What's the speed of 3G supposed to be again?

Did another test and got similar results.
[HD2 General] copualt3:
Here is mine:

1) OS: 5.2.21889(21889.5.0.87) 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE (stock shipping US Rom)

2) Manila: 2.5.20121412.1

3) ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE

4) Radio: 2.08.50.08_2

5) Protocol: 15.34.50.07U

6) 3G with 4 bars

7) Results:

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »

Tested on: 03.30.2010 18:43

IP address: 208.54.x.xx

Client OS: Windows XP

TCP options string: 0204058c0101040201030302

MSS: 1420 h

MTU: 1460

TCP Window: 5840 (NOT multiple of MSS)

RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)

Unscaled RWIN : 1460

Recommended RWINs: 65320, 130640, 261280, 522560, 1045120

BDP limit (200ms): 234kbps (29KBytes/s)

BDP limit (500ms): 93kbps (12KBytes/s)

MTU Discovery: ON

TTL: 162

Timestamps: OFF

SACKs: ON

IP ToS: 00000000 (0)
[HD2 General] chiasoft:
Hey, this is definately on the network end, and not device end. Stinkin T-Mobile getting stingy with bandwidth. Getting the same result on the Nexus one and TP2 and HD2. (First day they flipped the HSPA switch on, I was getting 5 Mbits DL on my TP2 tethered to laptop, now I'm barely hitting 2 Mbit in the same exact spot.)

Test Results from before..

_______________________________________________________

http://www.speedtest.net/result/676333122.png

Ping: 85ms

DL: 4.49Mbps

UL: 1.24Mbps

_____________________________________________

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »

Tested on: 03.30.2010 20:08

IP address: 208.54.xx.xx

Client OS: Linux

TCP options string: 0204058c0101040201030302

MSS: 1420

MTU: 1460

TCP Window: 5840 (NOT multiple of MSS)

RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)

Unscaled RWIN : 1460

Recommended RWINs: 65320, 130640, 261280, 522560, 1045120

BDP limit (200ms): 234kbps (29KBytes/s)

BDP limit (500ms): 93kbps (12KBytes/s)

MTU Discovery: ON

TTL: 159

Timestamps: OFF

SACKs: ON

IP ToS: 00000000 (0)
[HD2 General] willflint:
Throttling and 3G speeds...

I spoke with a friend that works at TMO and he said the TMO network is STILL being upgraded, and TRUE 3G speeds won't be available until around summer, or possibly later this year (and I'm sure that will be rolled out SLOWLY across the country).

And you guys are RIGHT! TMO is and WILL throttle bandwidth on a area-by-area basis. Essentially, those of you getting higher speeds at first, and then seeing subsequent performance degradation are just getting throttled by TMO's system because it is recognizing a performance hit in your area. Therefore, your phone (not confirmed if its truly the phone or the tower or the grid area) will get reduced bandwidth until there is some sort of reset back to normal (also not confirmed if its a kind of reset or just a gradual increase back to normal).
[HD2 General] Sinister Footwear:
I could not get a 3G connection at this time... I will update later... and this is from my android dev phone, not an HD2

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »

Tested on: 03.31.2010 16:48

IP address: 208.54.xx.xx

Client OS: Linux

TCP options string: 0204058c0101040201030302

MSS: 1420

MTU: 1460

TCP Window: 5840 (NOT multiple of MSS)

RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)

Unscaled RWIN : 1460

Recommended RWINs: 65320, 130640, 261280, 522560, 1045120

BDP limit (200ms): 234kbps (29KBytes/s)

BDP limit (500ms): 93kbps (12KBytes/s)

MTU Discovery: ON

TTL: 163

Timestamps: OFF

SACKs: ON

IP ToS: 00000000 (0)
[HD2 General] willflint:
My Values... I Think!

I started my Opera with a 3G signal reading and 3 bars... then once the results came up, it showed only an EGPRS with 4 bars! :( Not sure which the reading was taken at:

« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »

Tested on: 04.01.2010 00:59

IP address: 208.54.xx.xx

Client OS: Windows XP

TCP options string: 0204058c0101040201030302

MSS: 1420

MTU: 1460

TCP Window: 5840 (NOT multiple of MSS)

RWIN Scaling: 2 bits (2^2=4)

Unscaled RWIN : 1460

Recommended RWINs: 65320, 130640, 261280, 522560, 1045120

BDP limit (200ms): 234kbps (29KBytes/s)

BDP limit (500ms): 93kbps (12KBytes/s)

MTU Discovery: ON

TTL: 157

Timestamps: OFF

SACKs: ON

IP ToS: 00000000 (0)
[HD2 General] refuse2bstopped:
So basically tmobile is selling a service but providing a "watered down" version so to speak? D@mn recession!!!!