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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
triboot

In light of today's hd2 wp7s news dare we hope for a phone that could boot all three? Could that even remotely be possible?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timshady337:
Bounty

I'm a WM6 power user. I've tried Android, but i prefer WM call it what you want. It may be a dead or eyesore to most but i would not buy any phone w/o WM6.5.x. I'm willing to pay for a rom that would intall WM6.5 to the EVO. I think i'm not the only one.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wbchristmas:
You're not the only one! :eek:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Liberty&Justice4All:
Count me in!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sumo911:
I am in the transition process from sprint/tp2 to tmobile/hd2 myself. I am still within my 14 days buyer's remorse period, and still undecided whether or not I am going to keep the HD2 and say goodbye to Sprint.

For some reason, I feel like the HD2 is going to be the last great (or at least comparable---HW specs-wise) WinMo6.5 device. BUt at the same time, I think that *IF* any device is going to be able to TRIPLE boot OS's...its probably going to be the HD2! An android port I think is inevitable, and WP7 port i think is highly probable...especially considering all the geniuses we have around here @XDA! *Crosses Fingers*

Some would say my paying full price for a device with a "dying OS" is silly...especially with the Evo just around the corner!!! But Android is not something I am ready for or comfortable with right now. I like the idea behind the OS, but i do not like or appreciate it's execution, invasiveness nor immaturity. And I dont even wanna get started on the degradation that is WP7!:confused:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timshady337:
Bounty

I have an HD2 also. The capacitive touch screen took some getting used to. I cannot get used to the 35 kbit/s dl speeds that tmobile has where i live. on my Verizon TP2 i average 1600 kbit/s. Att 3g wont work on the HD2 either, so i will have to get the EVO. Just can't live with without my winmo. I've used WM since 2005 and i can edit reg, put programs in startup folders, read pdf's, copy and paste, and more that a dont want to live without. I wish someone builds a wm 6.5 rom for evo.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
MS should give the winmo source code to XDA if they're going to abandon it. I have a suspision they're not going to abandon it. Aren't they now calling it windows phone starter or something. I'll bet it creeps back. I can see them supporting the iphone competing system and the business user system.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PLESTIUC:
count me in! love my WinMo, but I must admit that EVO looks so good.

so you can't copy and paste in Android??
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
WHAAA? You mean like if I want to reskin an app and need to replace a file I can't go copy another one I keep on my card and drop it in the folder I need to replacing the original?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] michd43:
Simple and harsh answer. Winmo is dead. I know where you're all coming from. I'm a user of winmo for 4 years (winmo 3.x :D) With the new wp7 hitting stores this Fall, no carrier or manufacture is going to waste it's resources releasing a new 6.5x phone. But hey, you never know. HTC HD2 sold out for 3 weeks in a row!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] michd43:
You can copy and paste on Android.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
This fall? Christmas?

Didn't they say about Christmas? I think they've made another mistake. 7 is taking way too long first of all even after they made their announcement which has given iphone and Andoid time to update.

I think by Christmas people will be over it. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe with an advertising blitz right before Christmas people who don't keep up with this stuff will think it's something new (which I guess it is), but it's old news for us.

I don't understand what MS is thinking. They make an announcement in the spring to tell us we can get it in time for Christmas? Here we are *****ing about having to wait about 3 months to get the Evo after it's announced.

iphone just announced (released?) its os4 and (2?) new phones. When will they release? Just in time for Christmas? Android has Froyo (coming?). Will both these have their advertising blitz's?

I think wp7 will tank. Probably only some of us here (and other hardcore ppc sites) will be interested.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timshady337:
it would be nice to know if a chef would look into porting win mo 6.5 on the evo. i would be one happy camper. Please just let us (die-hard) win mo users they might be able to get win-mo on the evo. thanks for all your time.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
whew

I was skeered there fer a second.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JUZZIE87:
who in their right mind would want to replace Android 2.x with WinMo?

You crazy boy... crazy i tells ya.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
who would

want to replace perfectly good real ones with ridiculously large fake ones.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JUZZIE87:
You must be the only one complaining... :eek:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sebrina:
They already have it's called an HTC HD2 why on earth would they release a Evo 4G without a 4G network to connect it to I'm not sure where you are but here in the US Sprint's WiMax network is the only 4G network available, releasing another Evo 4G for a network without the infrastructure to support it would be kinda pointless. As far as them releasing another variant of the Evo 4G for Sprint highly unlikely it's never happened before in the past.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiequinn:
I think winmo 6.5 would have few drivers issuse on the evo. somebody'll need to develop drivers to enable 4g speeds (is it even possible?) I think the winmo porting to the evo is easier said than done.

just my two cents
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timshady337:
I'm not even looking for 4g i'll just be happy to hade the evo with Evdo and wm6.5. If that never happens i'll just learn to like andoid ... i hope. Having an HD2 doesn't hurt either. just need t-mobile to bring some 3g to South Louisiana.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cyberdroxxx:
I missed video calls using the HD2(no front camera) and I'm stuck with slower processor of TD2,TP2 and Omnia II for my windows mobile application on these phones. I would gladly welcome the EVO 4G running 1GHz Snapdaragon on WinMo 6.5. I don't really mind if HTC will bundle it with WinMo 5 as long as I can port the EVO 4G with WinMo 6.5

I find Android just as good as my SE Satio U1i on Symbian OS
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stilv:
Nice porting
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlczl:
As much as many anti-MS people may hate to believe, there is a huge demand for this "dying" OS. Proof is the sales of the TMO HD2. So many people thought that it would be in the bargain bin shortly after release due to it's lack of upgrade to 7 but that has proven to be far from the truth.

Bottom line: WM 6.5.x is alive and well even if MS themselves want to kill it. I can definitely understand someone from Sprint wanting to port the EVO to WM.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlczl:
Agree 100%. I had to get the best (HD2) before WM destroys it in order to follow the herd.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sebrina:
Why in the world is everyone so intent on moving backwards? I was asked yesturday on another forum if I knew of any developer forum that would make a rom that would flash an Evo to work with WebOS.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dakoellis:
quick question about flashing I've flashed roms for a TP gsm, but i kno that you cannot flash the same rom to a TP CDMA version. i figured it was because the radios are different, etc but is there a different procedure? also, about android roms in general, is there as much customization as for the winmo phones? it doesn't seem like there is quite as much to do because of the differences between android and winmo

I know this is not exactly on topic but I really didn't want to start a new thread
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rulyskull:
alright they did have a Rom that turned Android off (any phone) and put Windows in but they pulled the plug because a gota phone CAUGHT FIRE so they stopped and would not suggest ANYONE to try this again unless you want to see if your phone is fire proof and they arnt

Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timshady337:
Dual boot?

i'll have insurance, if it never gets ported i'm sure androd will be hacked enough to have usb drive, activesync, have normal files and folders with editting, opera 10, just the simple stuff that makes wm so simple to customize. maybe android came a long way since i first tried it. The droid incredible looks very promising . If android can do everything wm can do i doubt wo would be havig this thread. dual boot would be perfect
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rulyskull:
they didnt try dual boot because dual boot is the same thing as running one rom so the same things would happen plus iphone can do it because it has internal memory(like 8 gb) we got what 200-600 megs? im sorry but unless we get both internal and external storage or if someone fiqers a way to run a rom off a sd card then i dont think its possible for a dual boot, but for all the good wm parts would deff be doable (talking about this makes me wana try what i say cant be done so i will try to do what i said was imposable :) )
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timshady337:
actually i have the tmo-hd2 with wm6.5.5 intalled i still have 700MB rom left. more than enough for android. i would be content with my hd2 except tmobile data service of 35kb/s (and yes thats bits) are not an option. so i will get the evo 4 sure. just didnt care for andoid (trying it out last year) after having like 10+ wm devices over 5 years. i thought i would eventually get to the point where wm would make a laptop obsolete. so far it looks like the shift is the closest to that goal. who know where tech will lead us next. hopefully i will be there already.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rulyskull:
you have to remember that phone was made to run windows to so that doesnt really add to anything plus its windows mobile and this is an android phone and i dont know how much internal memory the evo will have but android is know to have crap internal memory (also the phone has room for the windows because it was made to be put in there an android phone wasn't made to hold a windows mobile software) not that i don't think someone will be able to put windows on there phone(this is xda after all :)) but there most likely have to reduce the size to still have internal memory left and when they first made it that's probably why the phone caught fire because they took away important things that should have stayed but hopefully this phone will have like a iphone with 8 gb internal memory or something high like that then i know someone will be able to put windows in there phone lastly you could take out the chip for android and stick a windows mobile in and hope it doesn't kill your phone
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mountaindont:
more mountain dew. all over my hero.

wm over android?

thats like fruity pebbles over capn crunch.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
I love fruity pebbles and cap'n crunch

some things are made for each other. Like mtn dew and gin.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timshady337:
how hard would it be to port an android radio to verizon? on winmo it's a piece of cake.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssa2204:
I for one would love to see 6.x available as I am not impressed at all with Android. On the other hand I absolutely adore my AT&T Tilt with SPB Mobile 3.5. The one big problem I have with my Tilt is the combination of older and slower CPU, and more importantly the older QVGA 2.8" screen. After seeing the demo video of the Evo at Engadget I have been eagarly anticipating this phone.....that is until I tried out Android on my Tilt and on the Windows emulator. Problem for me is that the new breed of phones are going in a direction I do not care for. I will positively and absolutely avoid the new Winmo 7 and all it's idiotic "Social networking" (Not too mention I find the UI wretched).

As far as I know the Evo will be one of just a few phones coming out with a nice large 4.3" screen + 1Ghz CPU. The others I have seen snippets about at Engadget are still a long way off. The Evo for me represents the best possible opportunity for Winmo 6.x to be ported over. My best guess is that Microsoft is going to control Winmo 7 to a degree that very little UI customization will appear, at least enough to my liking. As long as the Evo would have Wifi + GPS, HDMI out, I would be happy. I could care less whether the 3g or 4g works.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
hmmmmmmm

That dead OS, what's it called? Winmo? It's getting a new LG up for pre order May 27. Must be undead.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timshady337:
sprint to verizon

has anyone ever change radio instructions on an android to get Verizon on a sprint phone? 've done it on winmo, but does #3778 (epst) work on android?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zone23:
I would think that WP7 would be a more likely candidate for a port. Especially since the EVO will probably meet the required specs.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmc971989:
the only people who want to port winmo to the evo are the people who have never even gave android an honest try...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timshady337:
ok i'm willing to give android another try. i just need to know if epst works on android. i live in south louisiana over 100 miles fron sprint's evdo. i think 4g is highly unlikely for where i live. i will buy an evo if i know i could get it converted to verizon. someone has have to tried epst on android.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
been giving my son's hero a try

It's got a couple of neat things, but still think Winmo blows Android away as far as customization and modding go. Been searching and searching and can't find anything impressive as far as Android customization goes. Some shortcuts, folders and widgets with or without Sense, but nothing close to who knows how many shells and UIs, task bar mods, soft bar mods, for Winmo. Just look at Cookie's home tab editor and advanced home tab. Just look at some HD2 home screen shots.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbheightsboy:
work requires a winmo phone

I bought the touch pro 2 with Sprint only because work requires me to have a touch screen win mo phone. But it sucked always freezing, and ran slow as help. So I exchanged it and got the evo and I love it. Now I have to get another line I guess was hoping that win mo would have been a possibility on here. Sigh
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
I bought my kid a Hero and played with that. I now have my Evo and wish I could get Winmo on it. I just like the Winmo set up better. Wish I could play with Cookies home tab editor and Advanced home tab.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martouf13:
If you really want an EVO with WinMobile on it then get a freaking HTC HD2. Its basically the same device except it runs WinMobile...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jus10o:
You do realize that android rooted is so incredible customizable. I dont understand why people coming from iphones and winmo cant see that. Every single picture, bar, button, and file can be changed to how you want it to look and what you want it to do. One place to check is the cdma hero section. We have people that can mod just about everything. Give the Evo time and just watch everything that will be release for it. The phones only been out for a few days. On top of that, we have source to everything. It doesnt come out right away but eventually they have to release it. There is also a app called metamorph that lets you change something on your phone, while its running. Simple reboot and your changes take effect. Also there are so many launchers (what you would call UI's) available that all do different things and have different visually appealing mods.

STOP THINKING THAT WHAT THE PHONE COMES WITH IS WHAT YOU GET. It can all be changed.

Also one more thing if anyone reads this. The effin keyboard can be changed to whatever you want. It has every keyboard any phone out has, Swype, speech to text, qwerty, and t9. Learn about the phone before you assume. Android phones can be changed, just because the default app cant do it, download one that can.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dj13241:
You don't see any issues with giving Google all of your personal information? If one could setup his/her own sync server on linux, I would be ok with Android. Can this be done?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] codito:
No because they don't have direct access to it, it's all stored encrypted on their servers, and I'm not a paranoid whackjob.

WinMo sucks, no one is going to be making 6.x.x phones, it's garbage.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dj13241:
You can access your data on Google, right? Did you know that Gaia (Google's Password Server) was hacked? So, someone, other than yourself, has had (or may still have) access to your data! Meanwhile, you give them your personal information, GPS location, email ...

<BOW>
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manicmobileaddict:
Well, it looks like Windows 95 has now been ported to Android. Why not Winmo? I'm betting some one will do it just because so many say it won't happen, just for the bragging rights.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Borman18:
Windows 95 wasn't ported. Its being emulated. Entirely different thing.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dan330:
hi devs,

I just wanted to see if this can be done..and if it is a good idea.

I had posted it the general area.. and had little response.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5950445

I was wondering... maybe there is "an app for that", but I have not seen it..

I will be updating to the newest greatest android phone when it is released for Sprint / CDMA. But what will I do with the beloved HERO?

I was thinking it would be great for my kid; or kids in general as a:

for younger kids: MP3, Movie, Internet, GPS, Photo device

for older kids: a cell phone / leash.

But there are some things I dont want my kid to have access too. I want to limit the phone and give only access to only necessary functions.

So, here is my request/suggestion:

Have a "Home" app that can lock down the phone's functions. The parent can turn off/on the functions that they want the kid to have.

-Lock down the Dialer or make it invisible.

-have only calls to short cuts "people"

-911...

-GPS always on

-Text limitations.

-use a software like "wavesecure" to look at the phones activities.

-app to see where they are and where they have been.

-set timer on some functions: like can make calls / text on weekends only.

-Limit access to the "Market"

-Limit access to the Internet (kid friendly).

-ability for us to call the phone, it auto answer, speaker on, and not show any trace of it being on. ( :cool: )

(just to name a few options)

This might be a great app that sells a lot. :D ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] e.japonica:
invading piracy...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] btdag:
Or you could ask your kids not to do anything stupid and then trust them....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ddotpatel:
...Or lock them up, then you can be sure exactly what they're up to!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] MacCarron:
Or just put them on a leash and electrocute them when they misbehave.

Or here's another tip. Dont waste money on an HTC all powerful device and just buy one that meets your censorship standards.

PS. I really like the "friendly".
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cohone:
An this home screen could be husband friendly, too.

So you can use it for your kids and your wife with you!!!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ddotpatel:
No, No,... For your wife (or mine at least),... MacCarron's idea is worth putting into development,...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] MacCarron:
Just make sure she wouldn't actually like that :p:p
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ZED_pt:
The concept is good but...where do you leave "childhood" in all of this.

If they dont do childhood things like ,errors,misbehave,etc while they are childs,when they reach 18 and you dont have the authority to keep them restrained they will most probably do the mistakes they should do in childhood and even worst...drug abuse,pregnancy,no boundries....

Let kids be kids and hope for the best
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ruizit0:
there is an app that you can protect phone apps and funcions with a pass.. but wh dont buy an more basic and specific phone to your kids ?..

are you giving an hero to your 8yr old kid ? :\
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dan330:
lol.. funny **** :P

ok.. maybe you guys / gals are reading to much into what I wrote....

I am not wanting to ... LOCK UP my kid. I want her to have freedom ... that is age dependent.

I want her to be a kid... as a 6 yr old.. and as she grows. she should have more rights and freedom.

this is just a security thing for her safety.. and mine too! Locking down some features will save me $$ .. To many texts, minutes, apps... and wasting time on the phone!

I want to give her MY HERO when, I upgrade to the next phone.. which I am hoping will be the EVO :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] m0jo:
do not overcontrol your kids! You dont need to always know where excatly he/she is!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Dan330:
i remember hearing in the news...

kids.. texting like.. thousands of text a month.

using up all the minutes and hundreds of more

order crap ....

just want to be able to not have these things happen to me...

and others.. that will want to give phones to their kids..

have the app .. be customizable by the parent to what is lock down....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Arkymedes:
wow... people are really misunderstanding and taking the whole concept to another side.

i completely agree with your vision. safety FIRST, always.

the idea of "locking up a child" is wrong and does not apply in this case. a phone is a phone and i cannot see how a "locked" phone would influenciate the kids childhood.. they are supposed to be playing with kids stuff anyway, not spending time sending sms's or browsing internet over a phone.

the phone would be more of a safety device and i completely support that approach.

that aside, i also was thinking of some "app" of some sort that could somehow disable features that would be at the same time not necessary and costly for the parents.

since it would be for ANDROID anyway, the fact he says it will give his daughter a HERO doesn't make any difference with the app. a good old tattoo would suffice i guess :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Arkymedes:
i laughed at this one. what the hell do you mean you don't need to know always where they are??? did you forget the part he says: "KID"??? rofl
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] btdag:
I don't want to tell you how to raise your kid, and please don't take this the wrong way, but our philosophies differ greatly!

I figure, if you treat you kid with respect and explain what it costs and that you cant afford it etc they are much more likely to stick to your rules.

On the other hand if you lock down the phone they're only going to do everything in their power to break that lock and then send thousands of texts etc just to spite you.

Just a warning... :)