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[Desire General] mhewitson:
It was a labs option on G1... not on desire seems. does the arrowhead icon not rotate with the phone as you would expect a compas to do? Seems to on mine.
[Desire General] treble4:
it does rotate on mine n1 that is
[Desire General] Sycope:
What I mean is that on the iPhone when you've got the map up it spins so that the direction your driving or walking etc is straight up like most sat nav's do,

The desire just has a pointer showing your direction but doesn't turn the map around so it might show you travelling down or left or right.
[Desire General] Bandare:
that's strange..... seems weird that it wont do that. I was watching a video on the HD2 using google maps and the compass and that definitely turned the map as you moved.
[Desire General] ItsYerDa!:
The legend can do it, so surely your desire can!

At about 05:44, w**.youtube.com/watch?v=TFIcZPdfVe4&feature=channel
[Desire General] EroThraX:
Street view compass mode works fine on the desire, theres no compass mode for the position of the map in birds eye view though.
[Desire General] rangavin:
Rotate screen

hi To auto rotate you need to select this option from Programs, Sound and display
[Desire General] zonkkk:
This has nothing to do with Google Maps. This just rotates the display from portrait to landscape.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] hansalvato:
all my other roms do and this used to recognize it also but now only on this rom it says "insert sd card" this recently happened after i got the ENG SPL is it not compatible with MLIGN3.3? what can solve this?

BTW i have a mytouch
[HD2 General] GadgetTechPlus:
Does anyone know if theres a way to check what people wrote on the "my wall" section on the standard Facebook app?

If not, any better facebook apps out there?
[HD2 General] aLlamaWithARifle:
Use touch facebook.

http://touch.facebook.com

That's the best version of facebook, the app lacks a lot of stuff
[HD2 General] sarah72:
I like Facebook IM ....
[HD2 General] mystik610:
I like facebook.com

not facebook mobile.

not facebook touch.

straight up facebook full-site.

The Screen is large enough to display it legibly.

The processor and network speeds are fast enough to load it quickly.
[HD2 Accessories] erebusting:
Are there any usb controllers I can use to game on my HD2, this is one I have found (attached picture)...

I saw a vid on youtube where someone used it on their phone with a mini usb to usb adapter and then connected the usb to mini usb adapter (the one pictured) to the controller.

I have the BGP100 remote but it is not as apealing as the usb one pictured...

are there any alternatives ? I would really like to use something with a joystick (i.e. ps3 remote)..but I have heard the ps3 remote is not useable on the hd2 (at least yet)....

I would like to use it mainly for emulators (snes, nes, psx, etc....)

any ideas? Thanks for your help in advance...
[HD2 Accessories] Thraka:
Ugh I wish USB worked on the HD2... The closest thing to progress I've seen is this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=638201

THe power this device has is being wasted on text messaging and lame touchscreen games.. I need emus working with controllers.. I'll velcro a USB SNES controller to the thing if it was working... :)
[HD2 Accessories] erebusting:
What about a usb or bluetooth keyboard as a remote? would that work? Or what about just any usb remote ? I see this discussion which includes drivers: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=375407...

would that work ? can anyone shed any light on this topic? or does anyone have any experience with any of this ?....
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Zadabest:
I hate Bell with a passion. After two short 1 week vacations in the states, I was charged for nearly $200 of money I didn't use, apparently for roamer packet data.

I never want to put myself in any situation where my phone sucks money out of my wallet without me knowing.

After installing Android (Thanks Myn!) on my HTC Touch (From Bell), I've been using it for a day and I wonder whether or not my internet access will cause my extra charges.

I used to have an unlimited data plan on my HTC Touch running WM 6.1, but is that transferred when I use Android? Essentially my phone now thinks its American, yet runs via Bell Mobility.

Should I stop using internet?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prairiefire:
I too am on Bell's network with the unlimited mobile browser plan and do not get charged extra fees using any data on Android (while within Canada). This also goes for tethering. Although this is the vogue forum, I want to save confusion and let you know i am on an HTC Touch from Bell (Vogue).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] shadoslayer:
I have the fun 15 bundle with Bell and have never been charged for data. From what I understand, Bell does not consider the Vogue to be a smartphone, and therefore allows you to take the Fun 15 (or other unlimited mobile browser package).

Cheers
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ThomasHW:
Seriously? I've been paying extra for data... I'm with Bell and have the Touch.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I just need to put this out there. This question has been answered MANY times. If you had searched you would have found the answer :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Liko:
If you have Unlimited Mobile Browser and the Touch, then you shouldn't be paying any extra for data from Bell.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ThomasHW:
I don't have unlimited browser, but I'm assuming a plan with that would be far cheaper than the $65 I'm paying?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Liko:
You can add the Unlimited Browser option for $10 to any current plan. For $15 you can add Fun 15 Bundle which includes the Unlimited Browser, Call Display, Voicemail and 250 text sent.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] masalma:
I have to Touches with Bell both with unlimited, one is a postpaid and the other is prepaid and never get charged extra EXCEPT for one time I was in Niagara Falls right on the border, I ended up getting charged about 20 dollars for one day extra in Data fees they said because I was on the US towers, weird but I never left canada and still got charged.

Bell are horrible in everything except the unlimited data for the vogue lol.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bobjr:
Yep, as everyone stated, there should be no charges with UMB. For some its reason enough to try and get every last drop out of the vogue. I do look at some of the devices out there and wonder though.

I too was charged roaming data rates when in the South part of Vancouver Island (good old Sooke, BC). I guess I was on the US towers and checked my email a few times. I think charges were around $25. Be careful when close to the US!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] catfishkempster:
Yes, I am on the $7 unlimited data plan and also have not paid a cent extra
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prairiefire:
You can contest those charges. Let them know where you were and they'll remove the fees.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] masalma:
Trust me I did, no go.

Off topic: I once had added 500 long distance minutes for $30 I think from bell, and towards the end of the month I felt like I was getting close, so I called in to ask if I can add more, and the lady on the phone said since I am a student I can get a plan where I can make/receive unlimited nationwide calls from/to 10 numbers, all I have to do is go into a store and show my id and ask them to add the plan.

Next day I head down to a Bell store, tell them I want the student plan, and to add to my plan 40 long distance minutes for $7 just in case I call or receive any long distance calls outside of these numbers.

Well what the girl did, she added the student plan, and the $7 plan, but she took off the 500min for $30. When I got my phone bill it was close to $400 for that month because they ended up charging me for the 500 minutes of long distance. Lets just say it took about 3-4 months to get them to issue a refund, and with so much time spent on the phone, at the store, with managers.

basically screw Bell, if they didn't have this unlimited browser for the Vogue, I wouldn't even touch them.

rant over :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prairiefire:
I feel your pain. Any time they screw up, it's a guarantee you'll be spending time measured in days for them to correct it. I love it when you call back and find out that the previous person on the phone didn't keep any notes in their system and you have to start from scratch.

Unfortunately I think every other provider is equally crappy.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
pretty much every time I call bell for anything I immediatly tell them I want to talk to 'retentions'. When the rep asks why I say cause I'm going to cancel my plan, pay it out a switch carriers.. They transfer me to retentions who is much more organized to deal with.

lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] ThomasHW:
Well.. I phoned Bell and asked why they were charging me for data when my phone wasn't considered a "smart phone" and why they didn't tell me this when I switched phones (I called in to switch). They gave me some garbage, and I said "yes... but I could have been paying $15 less a month and would of had the same service." He went and talked to his manager and they're reimbursing me for a few months and are switching my plan. :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lornej:
don't use data in the States

NEVER use your Touch in the States.

I was in Vegas for a week and a few checks of my email and a few Twitter updates (everything that automatically used data- push mail, MyPhone backup, weather- was disabled) and I've used 67 meg of data.

And $2000 tab from Bell Canada....:eek:

For the entire year of 2009 Bell reported to me that I used 120 meg, they falsely report your unlimited mobile browser usage to you by capping each mobile packet data session (check your bell bill, each session has the same total).. But when you go to the states (or another country that supports Bell CDMA) the provider that you are piggy-backing service from is reporting back to Bell what what your actual data usage is (like you were using any data device -blackberry, iphone etc.)..

it gets better..

Bell bills this, out of plan, mobile browser foreign usage at $30 per megabyte - it bills actual data phone foreign usage at $6 per megabyte.

I had naively bought the 2meg $20 US mobile browser thinking this should cover my usage while in the states..oops

I've talked to a dozen different people at Bell from CSR's, supervisors, managers to different people in the executive office; they all say after consulting with their "data expert" that there was nothing wrong or abnormal about my usage in the states. 100% true I used my phone data normally, they are looking for a one time large or abnormal usage.

But as we're not getting billed normally, we are not able to make informed decisions about a) pre-buying a US mobile browser package or b) monitoring mobile browser usage in the US. And getting forced to pay 5X what other data phone users are paying for their data usage in the US.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lornej:
ahh there is a god..

I finally got resolution to my $2000 bill from bell for US mobile browser usage.. they had offered a 50% reduction..

I finally got a sane person at the Executive Office who charged me $45 for the new US 1GB package and has wiped out the outstanding US browser charges. The 'data-expert' that was to return my call is no longer with Bell... and NO body at Bell understands the difference between mobile browser usage (capped) and Data usage (uncapped).. even better when you bill says "roamer data usage"

... good timing too as the accounts receivable bastards had disabled both my phones with Bell Mobility and I had borrowed $1500 to reactive them.

Be polite, but persistent..

Now on my next trip to the US should I try and pre-purchase the 1GB US data package for $45.. LOL :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] prairiefire:
wow. that is a horror story if i've ever heard one. i have seen how the UMB shows capped packet data but never understood why they would do that. It doesn't make sense. Are they not recording the correct data internally or just not reporting it correctly?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lordcalin:
10$ for it? damn... i'm glad I got in before the price hikes... it might only be a couple dollars but it adds up. When I signed up, it was 5$, and I was enrolled for some promo that knocked it down to 3$ a month. About a year ago I got a letter saying it was going up to 7$, but the promo's still on my account knocking off 2$ every month so I only pay 5 for it... Kinda wondering what to do when my contract finally expires in 6 months, since I'm quite enjoying the vogue with android for 40$ a month after taxes... (200 minutes, 500 texts, unlimited data etc etc) and I know they won't renew my contract at that rate :/
[Touch CDMA Android Development] masalma:
Then don't renew :) and stick with the vogue.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jjlwork:
Actually I work for Bell :( lol, anyway, if he doesn't renew, those promos will likely drop off at the end of his term unless the person that added them was lazy/generous and put the promos on longer than 36 months(the default). Usually you can request to keep the promos as long as your renewing for the same term, not worth three year term and $400 penalty if u change your mind later though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] silvano107:
1x browser

i have a bell vogue, i live in canada and im running android

i have "1x" browser on my phone thats what it says on my plan, will i be charged? thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] t1mman:
I don't know about promo's but the basic plan will keep on after 36months. I have the same plan since 5+years and I can assure you it has continued after the end of the original 36months. So unless you speciffically change the plan you will keep the same.

As for the "1x browser" on your bill, it's mostly "pay per use". It's on there by default as long as your phone support it.

You should check if you either have fun15 or "Unlimited Mobile Browser" on your bill. You can go online to see if you have it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] silvano107:
1x browser

i finally got around to checking my account out on bell.ca and it says that i dont pay anything for the 1x browser? so im not sure if android will still charge me for internet use?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dpkform:
Do NOT tether with unlimited mobile browser.

I have a Vogue on Bell with the UMB as part of my plan. I used NFSFAN's Windows mobile roms for about a year and never got charged for tethering.

Then one month I received a $2,500 data tethering charge for using only a fraction of the 500mb of data that is included with the cheapest $25 data plan.

I don't think I did anything different than all the other times I tethered but who knows? Not worth the risk IMO. You will be fine if you do no tether.

If you must tether, I suggest you stick with a data plan.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dpkform:
1x browser may simply mean that you CAN browse. Call BELL and confirm that you have unlimited mobile browser.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
When were you charged?

I have tethered with easy tether and previously with nfsfan's rom and was never charged ever.

That being said i haven't done it recently.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dpkform:
early this year
[Touch CDMA Android Development] labellee25:
Bell Touch plan now on my Milestone

Hot Weather = Swimming pools

I had the chance to shop for cell phones for the last week and a half because of a little misshap with my phone and my pool. It seems that the HTC touch does not like salt water pools much :) . Well I'm with bell and pay 40.48$ a month taxes in with all the features except text messages that I hate anyways. I used on average 15 GB of data on the phone per month and this is the only phone I could do this with. I shopped around to find an other phone with at least 1G data and Rogers is the only one with this around the 55$ range. My only option was to get an other HTC touch. Got one used from a Telus client and had to ESN swap it as bell didn't want to have it on there network. This gave me the Idea to do this with a Motorola Milestone .. Works great and bell still thinks I have the touch .. So I now have a Powerful phone on a Plane that I can actually use the phone with. Screw Bell ..LOL PS . .I love the Milestone .. :D

I know toying with the ESN is not legal .. But I'm only toying with mine on my account. Fun stuff :p
[Touch CDMA Android Development] margosmark:
haha, clever.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
Telus is launching the Desire VERY soon, and they have a $50 plan with 500 megs and a bunch of other stuff, sans SAF.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] labellee25:
Telus and bell need to get on the ball and get stuff like the Nexus one or HTC incredible/EVO 4G. The desire is a little dated is even my ESN converted Milestone is a better phone. The other thing that needs to change is the 500MB data plans .. My whife has an Iphone on Rogers and she got it when it came out with a 6gb data plan for 25 over her plane .. still expencive .. but way better then the competition.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
What do you mean the desire is dated it just came out a few months ago in Europe. It is essentially the Nexus 1 with a touchpad, so I really have no idea what the hell you are talking abuot. Moreover, the 500 meg internet plan is better than what AT&T now offers in the states.

They did studies and found out that a large majority of users don't go over 500megs so it makes sense that they would offer that as the min. Moreover, I think most people are in wifi zones anyways.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] labellee25:
The desire is a nice phone but when there are phones like the Incredible, EVO, and even the Sony x10 that have better screens and better cameras etc .. When it comes to the Net usage, 500mb for 35$ is a joke and a bad one at that. Wifi is not available everywhere and people get these phones to use them on the go .. not at an internet cafe. People don't stop at the 500MB limit because they want to but because it would break the bank ..
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bcti:
Isn't the milestone a gsm phone? Doesn't it need a sim card? How hard was it to edit the esn?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dude4:
on a side note i dont think it is illegal in canada

i couldn't find a canadian law prohibiting it assuming your owning both the devices and about a year and half or more when i called the CRTC infoline thing they couldnt give me a strait answer either

regardless that new bill c-32 will make it illegal(everyone stop that bill)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mfpreach:
x10 is running 1.6 , no thanks. While the x10 looks good the fact it isn't updated is crazy. You said that the Desire was old technology then you use the x10 as an example?

EVO is too big imho and the Incredible is almost the same as the Desire so your arguments are nonsense. (I know the camera is better, but I use a Canon Rebel so that is pretty irrelevant.)

And just because you go over 500 megs barely anyone else does (general public, maybe not xda users), i read a study on it awhile back that most users don't go over that number. I have been running the touch with android I don't even have wifi and use a paltry amount of data.

Let me ask you also, how can you say that the Desire is old vis-a-vis the nexus one when the Desire was launched after the n1, thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bobzero:
I was also wondering that.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Tarney:
I noticed bell and telus have started to drop rates recently since wind mobile and chatr (rogers) have come onto the scene. Its about time we got some more competition here anyways. ...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] csbert:
You are not the first one though. I was charged close to $2,000. I called them and they took off most of the charge. And this happened to me before with WM6 as well. I called Bell and asked them to disable roaming on my account and they said they can't do it. It is just not feasible to do so on their network. I have a degree in cs so think there is some truth about this. But I am not sure if they should be allowed to charge me for service that I refused to use.

On the other hand, you have to realized that the phone actually a computer. When you turn it on, there are many things that try to get on the internet. That's why it's called a smart-phone. So even if you turn of data roaming or even turn off data completely, there are many things that will still go on the internet. Trust me in this, I tested it on the WM and Android. It is especially bad for Android.

I was also charged when I was physically in Canada as well. Although, that time, it was only $10. There are a lot more towers across the border than here. So sometime the phone will pick up signal from these towers.

The only way to make sure is to remove the phone the battery. I heard someone said forcing the APN to bell only will also stop it from roaming. I don't know how to do that though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vaporize88:
Actually with WM, you are able to turn off data completely but there are alot of stupid incidents like if you accidentally tab on the email or weather tab, it will try to dial for data. Aside from manually turn it off and pray it doesn't connect back, I think somebody mentioned that you can actually delete the dailing rules to disable that.

I went to Chicago for 8 days and was able to avoid any data charges (except the one or twice I accidentally hit the weather tab or email tab, I think for saftey, I am removing those from my Manilla 2D home screen all together while in states).

On the Android note, I remembered somebody in HOFO commented even they have an option saying "disable data while roaming" button is checked, Bell still charges them for data (even that disable is suppose to be on). So I would totally refrain from using android while roaming in the states. CAN ANYBODY TRY TO USE ANDROID WHILE ROAMING IN STATES (with data)???
[Touch CDMA Android Development] andrewmp:
It doesn't end well, I know this from experience.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] vaporize88:
Let me re-phrase it. :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] leadman:
So if I may ask a question here....As long as you have the Unlimited mobile browser plan on the phone whether prepaid or postpaid and have Android running, then you can tether without any other modifications or programs running on the phone?

can someone please clarify that because I just activated a Bell htc touch on the $10 unlimited mobile browser plan with no other voice options just to use it as a modem.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thebobsters:
when you are rooming in U.S there is an extra option you need to take for your data that is 15$ on top of your unlimited option or fun bundle, and an ex Bell mobility employ

so i confirme you if you didnot have that option you will be charge a 5 cent per kb in rooming
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thebobsters:
NO !! you will be charge like crazy , and if i'm not wrong that option is block when you are on prepaid it will fail to connect for tether
[Touch CDMA Android Development] margosmark:
Just came back from the states, on dzo's froyo build it automatically turned data off when i was in the states, didnt use a 'drop' of data,and no charges on bell selfserve so it worked as i expected.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bobzero:
Roaming charges can sometime lag behind. Not quite in the clear yet!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] margosmark:
Well i also tried using like web browser/gmail it would not work so data was off
[Touch CDMA Android Development] WnG88:
What are you APN settings margosmark?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] margosmark:
I just left default apn settings, and when I was roaming in the states it automatically turned off data
[Touch CDMA Android Development] andrewmp:
Next time I'm going to the States I will try DroidWall, a firewall app and just block everything.