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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone:
I think more people should work on the kernel itself to improve Sapphire roms. But that's just me, I want to see a 2.1 Sense UI rom that's actually functional. We've gone over this before on these forums, people kept asking devs to work together. It's a good idea. Sanpei has definitely done some phenomenal work though, that is something that demands a lot of respect.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ahmgsk:
Great Going i think i should pull my ROM down

CHANGE IN MY MIND AS WELL

If Sanpei is not happy i m not happy

we work together

HE is one of the best Programmers in the world

I started Development because He made a kernel we worked on drivers

I maybe a good rom developer but kernel Coding Sorry people i wont do it, i would rather say i have never worked on kernel and never will.

AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION

I have tried -> Wes-garners NEW Radio kernel if boots up, camera works , but has same issue with the rom, had even more issues (u can hav is sources just mail him for it)

so its not the kernel, 99% its not the kernel, rest 1% cant be proved untill u hav proper log to show

Other Developers were asking for his kernel, bcoz i has 3d working video working camera working, u should be thank full to him

Every developer had lost his hopes in this -> then from his rom and my rom they understood many things and made things working

its is due to hardware libs they crash -> i was going to provide all info collected by me to sanpei BUT sorry to say DEVELOPMENT STOPPED

ENJOY PORTS (ha!!! -> for that too u req kernel) Go to old radio and use g1 ported roms

Really Very sad Community People

""MOD please Close the topic""
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
umm sanpei kernel is good

ITS the ONLY good NEW RADIO kernel (the only other kernel for NR is cursordroid/hofo)

until I see you compile your kernel you made for 32A NEW RADIO

u should kindly stfu and if you actually ported things yourself you would realize that kernel has little do do with some of the things (camera,dis) mount usb maybe but really show me someone else who has actually compiled a .29 and not a .27 kernel for NR and had it stable

(you also seem to forget their is no official .29 kernel for our device ****face until rogers dumps 2.1)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
no offense sanpei

thats a LINUX kernel

if you dont want to open source then you are against the license (GNU public licence)

you've done great work, with what you have

but android is about open and sharing - if someone steal your code then just prove it and make sure everyone knows

if someone improves the code then everyone wins?

Open Source is for a reason

I am sure everyone would be happy if you take people to help you or improve the code - keeping closed sources will always be a point of contention regarding the kernel
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ahmgsk:
assume he never made any kernel, he shared output that was the best thing -> he had said b4 he will share it when he makes things working perfect
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
then i wouldnt have access to it

i mean there are devs to work with (wesgarner, cyanogen etc)

i know 32a magic is not common but they are kernel coders

means that they would probaly provide feedback if needed - why dont you work with other kernel devs to see if they have any idea

(just because cyanogen doesnt have 32a doesnt mean he might not have a fix for an issue sanpei has)

you guys both act like children in this thread over 1 person

just ignore him

sanpei is doing great
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ronni.rasmussen:
OMG, way to go guy!

What are you guys even doing in this thread if you have such a BIG problem. Why the **** are people once again pissing on the developers. When will people learn that all this BS is making the devs leave the scene. Get the **** out of my face and this forum as well. Sorry for my french, but i'm really pissed now.

@ahmgsk: I'm really sorry to hear that you decide to pull your rom. Was really looking forward for this and the next release of Super-Hero. But i can understand and respect your decision, just sad how much some can ruin it for others.

@sanpei: Don't know why people are giving you **** for you awesome work on the kernel. And for me (even as a developer) i think its fair you dont just share the source for it. Cause i know how much people will screw it up and give the credits for you. But as far as i understand it is actually a violation not sharing it, but who cares, you made a great kernel.

For those who made this happen, have a nice day and a pleasant "**** YOU AS WELL"!!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ahmgsk:
bro neither cm nor did wes, get 3d working

but sanpei did

anyways this is not a kernel development section
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
im not saying anything about them - im just saying maybe they can provide feedback right? kernel devs have similiar issues regardless of device and im sure sanpei has done lots of good alone but i know that other devs like on 32b and nexus are working toghether lots and have lots of success in short time

I know is not kernel dev - sorry just some feedback

and sanpei - look forward to your future kernels in any form

even if they are not perfect they are the BEST we have
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] yuanjin8899:
What a pity! Some guys really don't understand developers work and endeavor.

But I believe most people understand our developers. We knew the working is hard, and we also would like waiting for developers next good work.

Which kind of Vatri91 is? I am willing believe he is the latter.

Users usually wish a better ROM, that's normal. Users also should respect developers' working, that's obligation.

Sorry for my English too...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Beast11:
Wow... all you guys love this drama huh?

For the flamers: You guys are idiots, and will never be happy. Just be thankful for wats given to you, cuase really its a lot better then having nothing at all...

For the devs: You guys are doing some great work, but really you cant be crying over a few people who will always complain. They will never go away. All you have to do is IGNORE them... like cmon... no need to cry. Dont focus on the people hating, look at the people who are actually thankful... And really Sanpei, you are doing great work, but if you release your source the benefits will outweigh the negatives. You will actually get feedback from other devs... But i understand that you dont want it to be in a rom untill its perfect, but really the only way it will be perfect is if you have critics...

Sorry, but im hating on everyone... we all just need to grow up :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ahmgsk:
people Who want to work on new radio kernel

here u go

http://androidspin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2207

now people soon

and now start building roms as well
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] darvo:
What I understand here is that people complain and get pissed at devs because things don't work as they would like to. On the other hand, I feel that sometimes some devs are seeking for fame and credit more than helping community.

I'm happy to be using a 2.1 ROM, thanks to sanpei and all the other ones working on it.

That said, I believe that patches made to a Linux kernel should be released just for the principle. If it doesn't make one happy, then the patched kernel shouldn't have been released at the first place. This is how open source works. To me, not sharing patches to a Linux kernel and releasing it is against open source philosophy and not helping community.

This wasn't a complaint, just an observation.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] gbil:
If you remember I wrote in your other thread that if you release your sources then you will get the credit and who ever copies you will be tagged and tracked very easily and that is the best for you. You wrote you will consider this but I guess you never did or you never ever considered to open up the sources, in which cases it shows that you just wanted to be somekind of a 'hero' and never really contribute to the community.

Now it is your time to prove if you really want to contribute or just be considered the super developer that managed to do something the others couldn't and by praised for it. It's your choice and everything else is just excuses.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ahmgsk:
check this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6038413&postcount=52 then say
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
yea that doesnt change the principal of the matter

releasing source on a linux kernel is a principal of ethics

what differentiates us from windows mobile - iphones - and blackberrys

just like using ubuntu makes many people different from their windows using majority
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ronni.rasmussen:
Kernels for Android are released under GPL and by this license its actually a violation not provide full source built on them!

Think the moderators should have kicked in a lot earlier than this, its written in the forum rules that you have to respect the developers.

Kinda funny you should be the one talking about moderators should kick in ;)

Yeah sadly things started to look like it, the open source spirit is not what it used to be.

I reached the point where i can't care less about this matter, will go back to CursorSense and wait until cursordroid makes a new rom for us. At least cursordroid is a reliable developer who doesn't rush things to release for fame.

@ahmgsk: You just started to gain my full respect, but after this drama i'm like: OMG what a drama queen and its for several reasons not just this.

Im outa here and once again to those who screwed this up, have a nice day and a pleasant "**** YOU AS WELL"!!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ahmgsk:
the above given is the process to make kernel from wes sources

if u wanna edit and make kernel make using that -> its based on cm kernel + wes modification

people interested in moding kernel or using any of those thing u can use that

it even gives the process to make it

IF SANPEI DOESNOT WANT TO SHARE HIS STUFF THERE MIGHT BE A REASON RESPECT IT AND WAIT FOR IT TO BE RELEASED INSTEAD OF ASKING HIM 1000 and 10000 times and if u need it pm him. He will ans u properly
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Leffo:
To Ahmgsk and Sanpei

A short notice from an ordinary user who have had great fun playing around with your ROMs. Because that is what it is about - playing around. If you are 100% dependant on your phone - use a stock ROM.

I would ask both of you to reconsider your decision of stopping developing for the community. We are a lot of satisfied users so listen to us instead of a few "competitors" thar are jealous of your succes.

I - and a lot of us - dont care about the question of releasing code or not. Its the decision of the developer.

Hope you will take that into consideration
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] blizard80:
totally agree!!

the ONLY kernel in 2.1 rom's is sanpei... its because of he and his work that we have this rom's to 'play'...

regarding code... as we all know... when code is released is easier to others to take that code and make improvements... but as we all know is easy also to take ownership of the code... take all credit... and that in not fair to who released it...

hope the kernel can be improved... hope that credit is given to who works on it... hope rom devs can get the best kernel and make roms...

thank u all for making us get non stock releases... of new version of android so much sooner!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Krzysiec:
To all of U ahmgsk, sanpei, and other devs i think U should forget about ONE ...... man who is not understand how develop is working. Take a look on tousend of other users here, who are patiently waiting for new releases ... This guy has no idea about developing (i know that) ... The arguing should be DEVS vs DEVS not USER vs DEVS ... Just forget about that guy and do what U did here earlier ;) I understand Your discouragement but take a look on the others here who love Your work ! I hope U`ll change Your mind ;) Cheers !

Anyway ... best way is waiting for OFFICIAL ROM .. But without DEVS we won`t be able to get it root and so on ... So wait patiently and please DO NOT disturb DEVS in theirs work.

Is someone want to argue please BE A DEVELOPER ! Not just repeating things that someone said ... Thats all from me.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] braveydevil:
Ahmgsk，sanpei 中国代表队支持你们。:)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] maxxur:
This is not about "code" as in normal developing. Only a few people on this forum actually code to try to make things work. Others just mash existing libs together with the hopes things are working, calling themselves developers. Every single release will have its flaws untill someone actually dives into the code and fixes it. I do think sanpei does that :-)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] loming:
come on I don't think they know chinese...

He's representing the china users to say thanks to Ahmgsk and sanpei btw ;)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hubay520:
Hehe. sanpei is Chinese, of course, looking to understand the Chinese

Chinese language is very simple, I think he also understands the Ahmgsk

sanpei We Chinese people will always support you!

Who say sanpei brother's Kernel is not good, whoever not to use!

sanpei brother generous labor to pay their own efforts to do such a good kernel available to everyone to use.

I think we should be grateful to learn, and then go to thank them, thank the production of ROM available to the people we use. They are great!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] macioo:
Okay, okay, give this rom on tests please :P
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone:
At least we know which one of our developers really care about this community...

Time to buy a new phone...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jsoneng:
i do not know wad happen but my personal experienced, i really enjoyed both urs n sanpai roms, followed u on twitter too. =)

realli hope u can reconsider continue building Magic 32A roms. Cos both of you are the reason i came to xda everyday looking forward for new roms development.

heck those those buch of idiots who doesnt even cherish your effort. anyway, wadever it is, i really do enjoy ur roms and hope you can continue developing roms!!

we love you!! =)

those that aint loving u, just simply ask them stop visiting this forum and save their bad comments to themselves instead.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] denny_chips:
Agreed.

I love your roms :) and use your roms for daily use. please dont stop developping Magic 32A roms :). just dont mind those idiots who doesnt care about your effort. looking forward for this Super-Legend :D

sorry about my bad english :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] macioo:
Super-legend (Made By Ahmgsk)

Which we were not bad. Which annoyingly. Which inquisitive. Everyone. Everyone who visits this board appreciates the work that you are putting the ROMs. Do not look at individuals who, as we say in Poland, "May flies in the nose": D There are more such people who are waiting for your new works. Do not take anything for himself. Ye are so cool, we're so cool. Let it be fun: D So please let ROMs, we are waiting impatiently.

PS Sorry for my english: P
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ahmgsk:
sorry i developed this for people like u.

and u ass -> keep in mind i never asked anyone to give me money.

u hav balls then develop the rom

****ing code after u get home from college

let me see wat release u give

and **** OFF

this thread was regarding my rom now it will not be release

ps : if u get ****king time left then read the rules http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?f=493 only 11 points
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] tomek3pl:
hmmm.... why delete?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Isilmalith:
It is really sad, that a topic which is about a unreleased but very promising rom ends in *****in' like that.

If you are pissed that things are going not fast enough, or someones language is not good enough, just skip the thread. Sentences like "get a job and buy a phone" are useless, not everyone has a few hundred bucks lying around to spend on a phone. Me neither.

Can't comment on the rest, because I won't comment on something that I do not fully understand.

Whatever. I hope there'll be less hostility and more friendship in the future.

I was quite eager to flash the new ROM, now well... it sucks, but if you won't change your mind, then let it be. I'm still enjoying your 2.1 sense, although it has still some bugs, I got used to it and I don't want to downgrade my radio to flash an old version.

greetz from switzerland
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] capychimp:
STOP

ok folks, please stop all this crap, or take it to another thread, you cannot start all this sh.t and complain, they provide us with roms the best way they can for free...

english, yes the main language is english here but not everyone use english nativly, you cannot ***** about people's language skills, common, if you pay for service you can complain, but this is free, so stop this and move it elsewhere and lets focus on fixing the roms.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] :
No, people like me do their own roms for their own use. Thanks for the thought tho.

Donations are a way of asking. Which is perfectly alright. Begging every 2nd post, and having to explain you shenanigans every time is alright by the rules, but it's annoying, and distrustfull.

I already am

A working one, sources and credits included. Also, what i do in my free time is none of your business thank you very much.

No comment/..

Last time i checked it was 6 pages *****ing about a bug which will not be fixed by a pretend-developer (NOT you)

I did, and i never said you're breaking them. I just said it's immature and distrustfull
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ahmgsk:
do u think wes get 3d working 1st ask him abt it
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] :
No, he didn't. He was the first one to RELEASE THE SOURCE for it, which is what matters, and what my complaint is all about! I don't need to ask him, because i'm the one who showed sanpei's rom to him back in january! Please, read my post with understanding next time, instead of randomly insulting people.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ronni.rasmussen:
I don't think he's been interested in your roms/ports since they never made it pass beta.

Most people who's been around long enough knows that's a lie!

@Mr. Drama queen: Seems like you're trying to make people beg you to continue. Once again a big drama occur just as a release is supposed to be ready. For a while i've been having my doubts about you and all the bs you've been trying to pull. But after this i know more that enough to see you as a fraud. Now cause things got heathen up you even ask for moderator to close this thread. You guys started making a HUGE thing out of 1 guy saying his opinion about sanpei's kernel. As a matter of fact, i don't even get why you're still around at xda now that you so blindly defend sanpei. For now you lowered yourself in my point of veiw. I don't even wanna use any of your future releases no matter how good they might be. Then i rather go to old radio and use g1 ported roms!!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] capychimp:
never learn

you people never learn, you keep fighting over nothing, and ronni, you keep *****ing to everyone in every thread you post in ;) why can't people just focus on roms?

jesus
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] DaveShaw:
Thread Closed as per OP request
[HD2 General] ian.hennam:
Hi all,

I work in a company who have just dished out over 100 HD2 phones to their staff... we're on call and are having some problems with the handsets missing calls and dropping calls mid-call, and I just want to know if we're alone in this, or if it's a common problem, or better, if anyone knows of a solution! :p

We use Orange (UK) as our carrier, the phones are NOT orange branded....

When we get a missed call, we can be in an area with good coverage (3G or otherwise, it doesn't seem to matter). The person calling us gets a ringing tone as normal, but the phone doesn't seem to do anything (ie, no indication that it's getting a call coming in). Once the caller has given up (or been directed to answerphone) we do seem to get a message telling us that we've had a missed call, but this is a text message, not a windows mobile message, and can be upto 4 hours later! :mad:

We've also had situations where an HD2 has rung and we've picked it up after one ring to be informed that the caller was about to hang up as it'd been ringing at their end for over a minute! :confused:

The other issue we have is with the phones dropping calls mid-call both when taking or making a call... The phone handset shows good signal even when it drops the call... At first we thought it was people touching the hangup button on the screen with their cheek, but I've now witnessed the phones do this when held away from the caller's face and even when it's been on speaker phone waaaaayyyyy away from anything that could touch the screen or buttons...

Oh, and we're running software version 1.66.405.2 on all of the phones, and it appears that the problems are occurring on many (if not all) of the phones... They're all running BsB Tweaks and have all been setup in exactly the same way...

Anybody got any ideas? They seem to be a lovely device for everything else, it just seems that the actual telephone side seems a bit flakey...
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
lol... every problem you just described was happening to our company when we were using the Orange network in the UK.

We left Orange exactly one year ago after almost going legal with them due to their extremely shoddy service plus underhand and downright illegal activities with our account.

To cut a long story short...

When we took out our contract we bought every line as sim only and Orange gave us a hardware fund to buy our handsets as and when we needed them.

Turns out though... every time we bought an offline handset they were putting it through as an upgrade! This obviously increased the length of contract for the each connection in every purchase. The very definition of an upgrade in Orange's own terms of service (at that time, they may have changed it now) did NOT include buying a handset for a SIM only connection.

On top of this we had the exact same network/service problems you describe with ALL of our handsets (including the non winmo ones), plus many other other issues with their network/service.... missed calls not actually ringing the device.... text messages delivered late and voicemail notifications sometimes up to 6 days late. Dont even get me started on the dropped calls.

When it came down to the month we were supposed to be out of contract Orange told us that we were still in contract and we owed them £70,000 plus the full price of all of our handsets if we wanted to leave!!!!

Well... we told them they were talking rubbish and after a lengthy process going back and fourth with their legal department they eventually admitted defeat. They didnt have a leg to stand on really so Orange didnt get a penny and we kept all of our hardware.

Apologies for the lengthy post there i was trying to keep it short and keep my post in context. What i am trying to say is...

In my opinion your issues are more than likely down to the Orange network then anything else... but they will REFUSE to admit a problem. They also will not support your handset if you didnt buy it directly from them.
[HD2 General] Toss3:
Having the exact same problem here so it can't be a carrier problem. This issue goes hand in hand with the switching of bands problem reported in another thread. The only solution as of right now seems to be turning off 3G network-capabilities completely until we get a radio that functions as it should. Would you mind contacting HTC? I think that a company threatening to sell their devices due to bad support on their part might make them do something about it. Us regular consumers they just ignore.