yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
Nope, the thing I'm talking about is the number of items in the Menu list when you bring it up while in your Inbox. Not related to what you are looking for, I think.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
soon I'm going to start wondering if I'm loosing my mind here. Things that were here a few days ago are gone now.

Since upgrading from 1.6 to 1.7 and upgraded to the latest Co0kie Home Tab, I am no longer able to find the follow things:

I could have sworn that there was an option to change the number of items shown side by side in the Start Menu, but now i don't see it anywhere in BsB Tweaks or Co0kies Home Tab.

Also I had an settings option to show the Windows Settings in the Start Menu and again, I don't see it any longer. I remember having that option selected and I was then able to see two sets of settings in the Start Menu; "Settings" and "Manila Settings."

Is 1.7 a new build of WM6.5x from 1.6?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
O.k. Will make one lite version soon.

Take some rest first:D

Yeah, there is build difference from 1.6(23557) to 1.7(23559) and V1.8 (23563)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
Thanks! Again, not too critical and I know 1.8 is still in test, so I totally understand. If the Lite 1.8 has the shorter menu list, that would be ideal for me. As I mentioned, the only thing that I thought was amiss with the Lite 1.7 that I was running was the slight slowness compared to Premium 1.61.

The test Premium 1.8 is running better, so I'm sure Lite 1.8 will be good as well. Looking forward to that and Titanium by the weekend.

I appreciate all the work you do and the responses you provide!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] codeking24:
Screen not responding when on a call

Not sure if this is happening to others but when I'm on a call (using 1.6 Premium) the screen does not respond to any action. I can't end the call without using the physical end button, I can't open the keypad, or anything else.

Anyone else seeing this?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
Hmm, I don't recall that happening to me when I had Premium 1.61. Is the screen blank or is the keypad there but you can't press any of the buttons on it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] codeking24:
The screen is not blank. I can see the pic of the caller and the phone number while in call. I just can't bring up the keypad or end the call from onscreen.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
Do you have a lot of apps installed? almost all of my problems start after I start installing stuff. On 1.6 I had my screen lock up in the middle of a call while I was trying to get back to the home screen. I ended up doing a hard reset for other reasons and then I never saw it happen again.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
The pinkish colors go away 100% when you turn off ClearType.........
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] codeking24:
Nothing out of the ordinary. Bing, Marketplace... Sync'd to corporate Exchange server. May try a hard reset and see where we go from there.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
Remember, all it takes is one app to give your device a bad day :)

I have over 130 cabs I keep installing and I've done a lot of them one by one and I've found that some, I had to get rid of because they didn't play nice. I have almost every app made by the developer VITO, but most of them have caused problems in the strangest ways on my HD2 so I won't be installing them any longer.......
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] codeking24:
Hard reset done. Working fine now. I'll slowly add apps back and see if it happens again.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bluther:
I have had the same thing happen a few times. Really frustrating when you can't hang up a call.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
so, I haven't lost my mind. Flashed back to stock rom! Now when I go to settings from the slider> Menu> All Settings> Personal> and then you can see "Input" but how come it's not there in Classic 1.7?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
It might help if you guys could both list your apps and tweaks installed. That way we could see which one's you have in common with one another but not in common with the rest of us who didn't have that problem on 1.6. Same hardware and same rom, must mean it's a 3rd party app or tweak that's causing it, if I'm not mistaken.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] secano:
The Swype keyboard is also a bit buggy on V1.7 sometimes when I press the space button the swype keyboard menu pops up, also when I try to hide the keyboard I press the swype key and sometimes it hides it and sometimes the menu comes up.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] @sshat:
Are you using any mods? The touch X disable accidental quicklinks mod did it to both my HD2's. Once removed it was gone. Just had to train myself to touch the screen more deliberately. I'm sure I found it on a post in here, i'll see if i can find it
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Thanks friend.

If it is 1.6 and not 1.61 or higher, then the issue may be there. Form 1.61 & up there should not be. Try the latest version 1.8.

It may happen sometimes with 1.6 because of some files.

1.61 was released to fix that also.

So, our HD2 screen is not good in supporting landscape fully:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
As i said, update to the latest version.

I'll let you know for other windows legacy settings soon if you need it badly:D

May be some issues with 23599 build seems to be. The speed and then this.

Try the latest V1.8 one please.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
New Test ROM V1.8 premium is up in beta section guys..

Chagelog from previous test version,

1. Updated Co0kie's home tab to 1.7.1

2. Updated CHT Editor 1.7.1.1

3. Added In call recorder (Need testing to tweak recording voice qulaity)

4. Added default themes & Ringtones & also modified HTC black theme for wm6.5.x compatibilty. Now, you won't lose HTC black theme after switching to another theme and vice versa.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
Will Lite 1.8 have the same HTC Messaging as Classic and Premium?

The reason I wanted to find the Windows settings, was to try and change the default SIP from TouchPal to Swype, without needing SIP Change installed and running on start up.

Well since the reg change didn't work for the ClearType, I just went into the normal settings and unchecked clear type. So on your rom that gets rid of the pink colors but on the stock rom, cleartype can be checked and no pink colors show up. Must be a bug somewhere my friend, but it's not a big deal to me now that I know I don't have a bad screen. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] devise:
1.7p is very laggy, freezes, hangs CONSTANTLY. i think its the new co0kies hometab, but i cant be sure. 1.6 premium > 1.7 premium
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
1.7 Premium has the version of Co0kies Home Tab that many people are having issues with. Well, I am running 1.7 Classic and installed the updated Co0kies Home Tab and have not had any of the lag issues nor any freezing.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
O.K. I'll check for cleartype thing. May be some issue with wm6.5.x and drivers we are using?:confused: Have you tried any other custom ROM and let me know? Iam at work now and not in my home.

Let me check about windows settings when iam back to my home.

You are right guys. The Co0kie's home tab version 1.7 had some issues and solved in 1.7.1. See his thread for info.

Anyways, i have updated it in latest test ROM 2.

Kindly post your feedback guys.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] henryblank:
Hi Kumar, I'm still on 1.7L and looking forward to 1.8C, thanks for all your hard work .. I think if all goes as expected 1.8 will be a very stable load with minimal or no bugs.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Hope so:D.

V1.8 should be stable and fast without bugs/less bugs.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
I was going to download the latest 1.8 beta, but I just wanted to confirm I'm getting the latest. When I save the file, it has the exact same file name as the 1.8 that I downloaded yesterday morning. Is that correct? Also, the page for the 1.8 beta doesn't have the changelog info that you provided above. Just want to make sure I don't simply reflash my ROM with the same file that I did yesterday.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
For getting the input option in startmenu/setttings delete the following registry.

Donno whether it will keep the sip on restart. try and let me know.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Input]

"Redirect"
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Check the last letter of file name,

Kumar's TMOUS Premium V1.8 S23563 B2.10.1-2-test2.nbh

Also, iam uploading now the release version 1.8 premium with only two changes,

1. Removed In Call Recorder

2. Few registry changes in Co0kie's home tab settings.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
Hmm, I think I see. The .rar file still says "test1", but the .nbh file in it will say "test2"?

In any case, since you're releasing Premium 1.8, I guess I'll wait for that instead. Thanks!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djemil:
any news on the sms thing the dismiss pop up is really annoying

thanx for ur hard work 1.7 lite works great so far
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Wrong file.

It should have test2 in rar also.

Thelink is in second page.

Just wait for 30-45 minutes. Its almost 40% over.

Its already fixed in upcoming versions.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
Great! Will wait for release version to try it out...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] joe_coolish:
So, I've been wondering, what exactly do the latest versions of WM COM5, Album, HTCMessage, etc add? What's the difference between build 23559 (your post says 23599, which got me super excited hefore I realized it was a typo :D) and build 23564 or what ever the next one should be?

Just curious as to what I should expect when upgrading.

Thanks for the awesome ROM. I don't drink nor condone the use of alcohol but one of these days I'll be buying you a couple gallons of milk :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Coming up soon in a few more minutes.

Damn my slow net connection:o

I have upgraded to 1Mbps unlimited conx (AED250=85US$/Month) just after i start making ROMs. Still it needs almost 2 hrs to upload a single ROM.

That changelog is for V1.7:D

V1.8 changelog is posted before few posts.

WM build 23563, etc.

Also, i have stopped alcohol nowadays:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] joe_coolish:
Ah yes, build 23563. So what is the difference between 23559 and 23563?

(just waiting for someone to say "4").....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
No much difference in functionality AFAIK.

But, seems to be a bit faster than 23559.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 1quickturbosix:
So this will be here like any minute now!?!?!? YES!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Premium version 1.8 is up and link in first page.

Uploading Classic version now;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
Yessss!!! Looks like work is blocking the 4Shared site you're using for this one, but there are more ways to skin this cat. My Verizon wireless broadband card to the rescue! Downloading now....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 1quickturbosix:
1.8 is noice... real noice! Keep up the good work!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] aznboilnoodles:
Sorry I am a little confuse on the difference between Lite and Classic? I am looking for fast and stability, should I go with the LIte?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
From the first post:

1. Premium -- Which will be customized with colorful startmenu icons, cookie's home tab & configurator & some other programs like PHM reg editor,etc.

2. Classic version -- Close to stock with just stripped out unneccessary programs. It has almost everything that premium version has but, NO Co0kie's tab, Configurator & Custom icon set.

3. Lite version --- Stripped out all the unnecessary programs & Tmob services like MobiTV, Blockbuster, Slacker radio, Visual Vocemail, Tele Nav, etc.

Both are based on the same builds (if you're comparing the same version, of course), so they should both be similar in stability and speed. Since Lite doesn't have Co0kie's tab, it may be slightly faster, but you don't get the customization features. Also, Lite doesn't have the extra junk that you may not use anyway, so you have some extra program memory available.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] joe_coolish:
if you want fast and stable, any of them will work. But the "fastest" is the lite. I use the premium because of the customization programs (CHT mainly) make alot of difference. Really, you'll be happy either way as far as speed. But as for functionality, premium is the way to go!

p.s. try out the premium for a day, if you don't like it flash the lite. I tried a whole bunch of roms before I found this one. It's been my favorite since day 1!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] DeekoVB5:
I asked a similar question awhile back...I was curious as to where these builds actually come from & what changes from build to build. No one seems to have an official answer...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] henryblank:
Waiting on Classic 1.8 .... :) So far page one says "uploading"still ..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] aznboilnoodles:
Yeah I used premium for 1.7, but it often freezes on me. Then I tried lite and worked near perfect, but I was just curious about classic. Thanks guys :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] aznboilnoodles:
Very excited for the classic version :D!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] MirasHD2:
Thanks! Can't wait to try it out
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
If you missed it, he said that 1.7 Premium had a version of Co0kie that was buggy. Since Lite 1.7 didn't have it, it didn't suffer from the same bugs as Prem 1.7. Since Prem 1.8 has the updated Co0kie, it should be good.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] aznboilnoodles:
Sorry its me again. So on the premium version the Home Screen under the show appointment tab, how do I remove the "Call History". I just want the appointment shown under this tab. Is there a way to do this?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Actually so may have reported of difficulty in downloading from rapidshare. Thats y i have posted in 4shared this time.

Thanks...

Classic will be fine for everything just like stock.

Actually, there is no much UI changes between build updates. The changes normally occurs in performance development and bug fixing mostly.

Classic is UP now;)

1.7 premium had some issues with CHT.

Anyways, i have been running 1.8 premium with no issues full day now.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Up now. Flash and post your feedback please;)

Welcome friend:D

Yeah. Right.

Thanks for helping me out in replying friend:)

Check the included CHT Editor in Tools folder for the options.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Classic version 1.8 is up and online friends.

Link in first page;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djemil:
WIFI on/off grayed out

Ok I just flashed to 1.8 premium and the wifi is grayed out in comm manager I can still get to it from the wifi in settings>connections>wifi but was wondering whats up with the comm manager
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
As everyone says; thank you very much for your hard work.

About to download at least one version of 1.8, but I am just trying to figure out if Lite has the same HTC Messaging as Classic?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
Thanks again! :D I will try this after flashing 1.8.

BTW' I ended up just using SIP Change to select which input I wanted as default since I've installed Swype, SlideIt and TouchPal (which always wants to be the default). Now I've found that When Swype is set as the default input, it makes Resco Explorer 2010 sit too low into the bottom bar just as Swype does itself. also Swype has been slower on 1.7 when typing/swiping and so I've been using SlideIt which is very fast as Swype was on the stock rom but it's now as nice looking and the buttons are a little smaller which is a shame........
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Can anyone else please confirm?:(

Lite won't be having HTC messaging.

But, premium and Classic does have HTC Messaging.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bradecrain:
This is usually because your plugged in via USB through Active Sync. This is normal. Verify if this is the case and let us know.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
This happened to me many times after hard resets on even the stock rom. Did you set up a wifi connection during the first use setup screens? I've found that some of the times I skip the first setup, then i get what you're getting. Anyhow, I've fixed this problem also by going in and setting up wifi through the non sense settings and then after a soft reset the sense setting will no longer be grayed out.

Really no worries here, I was worried on the stock rom and called T-Mobile tech to fix this problem. They had me slide to settings and click on menu and then all settings. From all settings, I can't remember but I think it was wifi and then check the box to turn on wifi and then also make sure you're not connected by usb.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djemil:
I was plugged in

Thanx for the quick response you guys are awesome keep up the great work we all appreciate it
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ferrisnox:
Flashed and running... I'm gonna stay on this version for a while... its starting to get crazy flashing this thing everyday.

thanks again for all your work!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bradecrain:
Where is lite I cannot deal with this broken HTC messaging
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Thanks friends.

Welcome dear:D

It will be very difficult i tell you:D

That also with the speed the new builds and ROMs are leaking out;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Sorry friend, its in making....

Lite and titanium Should be UP by tomorrow maximum;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
1.8 Classic here I come :D And honestly if 1.8 Classic is as good as I'm sure it will be, then i'm sticking with it for a long while. I am going crazy, installing 130 cabs and entering in my email accounts, wifi keys and all that other setup stuff.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
You can always disable it in Premium and Classic using this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=556614

That's what I do when I flash a Premium version of the ROM.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
What you do if 2.11 ROM is leaked tomorrow and new update is coming tomorrow or after tomorrow?:p:D

Thanks for reminding:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
I heard about a 2.11 ROM and am wondering is that an HTC T-Mobile ROM that refers to? And if so would that be Windows Mobile 6.5x or just 6.5? And to answer your question, you got me hooked so I guess if you build it, I'll be flashing again :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bradecrain:
This one doesnt work like the cooked version does and it runs a patch at startup. I actually havnt checked to see if this is the case with Kumar's and other who cut out HTC Messaging but from the startup folder I see nothing.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
New Google Maps 4.1

Google Maps just got released to version 4.1 from 4.0. I am assuming that ROM 1.8 has Google Maps 4.0? If so then anyone can download 4.1 from http://www.google.com/mobile/maps/ bottom of the screen click on Windows to download the cab if you're like me and don't want to download from your phone.

Looks like the big change is full voice support......
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
There is very less/almost no chance of it to be wm6.5.x.

Let us wait & see is it worth the waiting & expectation.:D

You are right. In lite version i use to remove the HTC message & messaging client completely from the ROM.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Thanks for info.

Will add it in next version;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
Thanks for clarifying. Also, if you recall, when I tried the Lite 1.7, I was still able to see the HTC/Sense Messaging app if I clicked on a message from the Messages Home screen tab. Were you going to eliminate that completely in Lite 1.8?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Will check it and try to remove it this time.

Will be making test versions of lite and titanium before releasing then;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bradecrain:
Can you tell us how your removing htc messaging entirely?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
It need to be done while cooking.

Otherwise, you need to disable it with the link provided.

Just hold on for a day.

I'll make one Non-HTC messaging version of premium;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Changelog is up in first page and uploading the premium version now:)

Will upload the classic version by tomorrow;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bluther:
:D I vote for a Non-HTC messaging version of premium. Can't wait.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bradecrain:
Thank You man you are the frickin BOMB!! Keep up the awsome work man. Oh BTW I am using the new TMOUS radio and its working really well with your ROM (lite).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] henryblank:
What is the problem with HTC Sense messaging? Can someone explain what the issue is here ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Thanks friends:D

The problem is, if you have a lot of messages, HTC messaging seems to slow down and also slow down the device i HEARD:D. Because, i never have so much of messages and always keep my important messages stored in SIM and not in device memory;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AshMa:
I too never have any issues with HTC Messaging. I'm sure I could fill it up with messages but I use an app called PowerSMS to back up all my messages to my SD Card and then Easy Sync automatically syncs them to my desktop every time I connect via Active Sync. Also I read on another thread that turning off Threaded View in Messaging, speeds things up again.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] henryblank:
Well thanks for 1.8C, so far it's the BEST ROM I've had. I'll definitely be donating some mulah for all your hard work Kumar, it's well deserved.

My donation will appear as Enrique, fyi.

Thanks again!

Henry
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vplaza96:
LOL, I just downloaded Premium 1.8 and removed the messaging with the Zenyee link. Now I'm waiting for Titanum AND the new Premium without HTC Messaging cooked into the ROM! Like you said, flashing can become an addiction! ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Phenomenon:
Ummmmm, dude. I downloaded your Classic version and I like it, but I think you forgot to install the HTC Ereader. You just installed the tab, but theres nothing for it to open....................................
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] henryblank:
I have 1.8C and the EReader is working just fine .. :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
Thanks for info friend. Yes, turning on traditional mode speedup a bit.

Thanks for the support friend:)

For me it has become a routine:D flashing 10-20 times a day to check the ROM:D

I have it installed. May be Shortcut is missing.

I'll provide a cab to fix it.

Meantime if you want, you can copy and paste BN-Ereader.lnk from windows directory to

/Windows/Startmenu