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[HD2 General] chalid:
The QSD8x50 platform consists of the QSD8250™ which supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE, HSPA networks while the QSD8650™ supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks.

So its not faster or anything. Only difference is the supported network connectivity ...

And, like aceo07 said, it seems to be thicker - and longer too.

The Evo 4G looks nice, but I think the HD2's formfactor is perfect ... wouldn't want to trade for an hdmi output and the better camera, as I just don't really need both ... ;)
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Quoting this for effect and reinforcement.
[HD2 General] Toss3:
I'd trade in mine any second! ;) I know it isn't faster, but newer hardware is always newer hardware.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
8650 is not new it was released when ours released and there is devices already uses it ,look at qualcomm site
[HD2 General] Sallcho:
Will it work in Europe? I know 4G won't, but 3G?
[HD2 General] kilrah:
It says coming in summer, so not actually available before several months! And that's in the US, we don't know about Europe yet. HD2 still has sunny days ahead :)

And yes, I too prefer the look of the HD2 :p
[HD2 General] The_inked_battosai:
okay i will admit the EVO looks like a nice piece of hardware but after doing some digging ive found that it still has 512mb while our gracious hd2 is packing 576mb and if anything this is good news for those of you waiting patiently for the android devs to get the ball rolling on the hd2 project. personally the only thing im leaving my hd2 for is something thats 4.3 inch and got a TEGRA 2 breathing under the hood till then i will keep tweaking the **** out of winmo playing fpsece, playing morphgear, enjoying the multitouch gesture LMT launcher.
[HD2 General] t-mizzle:
No reason for disappointment. 6-7 months from now, a phone with a 4.3" AMOLED screen with 1GB of RAM could easily cast a shadow over the Evo as it is doing over the HD2. Good things will come from this to the consumers.

I expect Sprint to time the release so to spoil Apple's annual refresh party.

For those that were asking, the Evo is not compatible with European networks.

I totally expect that to change if this phone sells as well as I think it will, HTC will more than likely introduce GSM versions.
[HD2 General] iridium21:
WOW! I'm amazed HTC have done this - surely this will cause HUGE dent in HD2 sales!?
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
you are right hd2 is much more beautiful and slim and gives the feeling of preciousness because of its materials not a piece of sh*t fat plastic phone ,and over that hd2 is thinner which combensates the size of it ,but evo is tall and thick and plastic at most so no good usability
[HD2 General] cpimpjuice2060:
by far... The best phone ever.....
[HD2 General] optimus82:
if it was on tmo, then id get it over the hd2. but i love tmo and the service is perfect in my area to go to sprint.

also, i dont think the evo 4g overshadows the hd2 as much as it overshadows the nexus one. between those android devices, the evo 4g definately kicks the nexus' ass. but one thing the nexus has over any sense ui covered android device is faster os upgrades.
[HD2 General] aceo07:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-evo-4g-vs-hd2-and-desire-fight/#2826851

It seems only a tiny bit thicker. I'm not switching to Sprint nor am I a huge fan of Android, so I'll be getting the HD2 tomorrow.

I've tried Android 1.6 and 2.1 on my HTC Dream, and they both don't have enough media support. WM will and luckly it has a big screen so it fits my needs and makes for an easy choice. :)
[HD2 General] tylawtheboss:
Now that EVOs here...how soon before android rom?

How soon will we see android on the HD2? The EVO is similarly spec'd to the HD2 in so many ways. So this should be an easy transfer over. Maybe some dev's can answer. I am buying the HD2 tomorrow and I would love android. Plz let me know what you guys think
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
Just because it has similar specs doesn't mean its the exact same components. The might be things that may help with development, but don't expect a great working Android port for a long time. It'll happen eventually, though.
[HD2 General] adrian_nene16:
guys im so jealous! like for real.. i am.. but i like tmobile and my 5 favorites... what can i do? wait till hd3? you guys think there will be an hd3 coming in november?? i hope so
[HD2 General] DKM119:
i was wondering the same...i was really hoping for the HTC Desire to be at least announce on Tmobile US...but now it just seem like a dream...been searching for a new phone on tmobile and i'm really liking the HD2 but the only thing that i dont like is the windows os and now knowing that it won't support windows 7...beside i like the android os...
[HD2 General] t-mizzle:
If there was any doubt why Android didn't make it to HD2,

it's been clarified with Evo's announcement.

Also explains why the T-Mobile versions is so "cheap".

I mean, a 1GHz processor and a 4.3 inch screen for $200

(with contract extension) or outright for $450?

All the major players involved think of winmo 6.5

as a dead platform and confirmation of no windows phone 7

upgrade puts the nail in HD2's coffin. Or so they think :D

Let's see what happens once we get the evo dissected.

Despite all the Debbie Downer outlook on this forum,

I remain cautiously optimistic. I expect the Evo to involuntarily

help it's older brother get where he deserves,

much faster than he would without evo :D
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
It seems like the nexus1 is closer in specs and hardware than the evo is...the hd2 doesn't have a 8mp camera or hdmi out. the nexus1 kernel is the one they started development with.
[HD2 General] mZimm:
The EVO uses a different chipset than the HD2 does. It has the same 1ghz processor but due to the CDMA/GSM differences, it uses a similar, but different chipset. As much as I want a new Android phone on Tmobile and love the HD2, I don't think that you can count on there being a reliable android port at any point in the near future.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
Exactly.... I don't think the EVO android will help with the development of a port for the HD2, at least not more than the n1 already has. It'll be a year or more before a good enough port to want to use regularly.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Firstly Evo's NOT here before a few months, only announced.

The next step for HD2 is release of the sources of the N1's OS, which is closer to the HD2 in hardware.
[HD2 General] PlayStation:
Not to worry I am certain hTC will soon announce a GSM phone with exact same specs as the Evo with a different name. Most likely Android based or WMP7. When the time comes next year to retire my HD2 am sure hTC will be ready with the killer phone for 2011....

That front-facing Evo camera and the kickstand and higher capacity battery make me green with jealousy. If only Evo was not CDMA! ;)
[HD2 General] chalid:
Camera and the rest of the back are plane, which means, that its 1-2mm thicker than the hd2 (that is, if they didn't change the height of the camera...). And look at the top of the screen and the gap between the earpiece. Looks like its 3-5mm longer ...

Yeah I know, thats not much, but in pocket and in hand, I think this will feel a lot bulkier than the hd2.

The evo has nice specs, but I think the hd2 is a lot better for allday use ...
[HD2 General] ephestione:
...is that a lanyard hook I see in the lower right corner? :D

Did HTC finally came back to its senses and put one of those in their new phone? Or is that just the mic hole?
[HD2 General] morpheus1982:
I dont understand you either. This will be released a full 8 months or more after the HD2. If my next phone is to be and HTC Android I am glad what I will be looking forward to come May 2011 (upgrade time). Even this phone will look dated by then. Technology is constantly moving forward, and that is what keeps as interested!

I am definately sticking with Android, Sense is too slick to look elsewhere.
[HD2 General] Lann_78:
Now, that sound familiar....:D
[HD2 General] lude219:
The only thing that impressed me about this phone is the fact that it comes with 1500mAh :D

Android? personal preference....winmo is fine as it is.

8MP camera? the 5MP superfine mode on the HD2 is sufficient. it's not like i'll stop using my Canon 40D

front facing camera? used mayyybe once or twice on the diamond. completely forgettable.

HDMI and 720p vid? Don't really watch movies that often on my phone because multimedia is secondary and internet/voice is primary.

WiMAX/4G? Certainly not out of necessity as HSPA gets me +1500kbps. Though how widespread is Sprint's 4G? more like 5-10% of the whole country, lol.

Again, it's as expected that the EVO trumps the HD2 (being that it'll come out this summer...or a whole 8-10mos after the HD2 was released) in terms of specs, but whereas the HD2 is elegant, the EVO looks like a transformer with red accent and a *bulkier* waist. If both of these were to be presented to me at once without me knowing beforehand of their specs, I'd be stupid to go with the EVO just by looks alone. So other than having a beefier battery (probably needed for the wimax/4g and HDMI), I don't think genuine HD2 fans should have anything to worry about with their investment. With that said, congrats to Sprint for adding this phone to their portfolio...:)
[HD2 General] NZtechfreak:
Weird, I find this more attractive than the HD2, and considering I really like the aesthetics of the HD2 that says something...

hoping this comes to European GSM bands!
[HD2 General] m0j0j0j0123:
Looks very nice, but for now the HD2 is king! ;)
[HD2 General] Moandal:
Itwould be nice to know the exact size and weight of the Evo, so it's surprising they haven't included those in the specs. Maybe it's bigger, heavier and fatter than we think and they don't want to put people off.
[HD2 General] RKnight1983:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-EVO-4G-phone-pa_4382.html

Here are the size specs for the device and you can do a visual compare with the HD2 .... there almost identical
[HD2 General] John_Vella:
If I'd seen this before I got the HD2 I might have been tempted as I do kinda miss the video calling from my Omnia, but given that there is still some confusion regarding Copy and Paste in WinMo 7 and I do use the Office Apps a lot is it really worth getting upset about?
[HD2 General] t-mizzle:
I wonder how far HTC/Sprint went in making the Evo different than HD2. Specifically, the battery dimensions and the connects on it. While the back cover is all plastic and very different from the HD2, maybe the battery itself could be used on HD2. I could use 1500 mAh.
[HD2 General] zefiltrin:
Isn't this new processor only the CDMA variant out OURS Snapdragon?

It's been annouced by some as something better than HD2 processor, but it seens like it's not better, only CDMA oriented.

The rest is absolutely wonderful... It's what I expected from HD2. But, for the next 2 years, the HD2 will have to suffice for me, hehehe.
[HD2 General] technillion:
Uh...am I missing something???

What's all the excitement for??? It's U.S. SPRINT people! :confused:

...as in our-CDMA-network-is-so-crappy-and-our-stocks-are-so-low-we-may-not-be-around-tomorrow SPRINT! on ANDROID? (Ok. maybe Android has some potential) -- but it's still SPRINT!!

Wake me when they announce the GSM model. :p
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
The Sprint network is actually pretty good nowadays, which is the funny part. Their marketing sucks :P

They roam on the VZW network at no extra cost if Sprint isn't available.
[HD2 General] Moandal:
The EVO launch is a bit off yet, so HD2 will be the best phone available anywhere* for a few months yet, and the best phone in Europe a while longer.

These days you can't expect a phone to remain unbeaten for more than about 6 months, so enjoy your HD2 while it still reigns supreme. :)

*Don't give me any of your "subjective opinion" nonsense - that's a fact! ;)
[HD2 General] brucewilsonpa:
But one thing that still bothers me about Android, and it affects using it on the HD2, is its limitation on installed apps -- can only be installed to memory (not on SD card). The EVO appears to have a much larger memory, probably for this reason, whereas even with the size of memory on our HD2, I'd be really limited on the apps I could have.
[HD2 General] aceo07:
You can root Android and have app2sd so apps can be installed onto the sd card.
[HD2 General] dkb218:
Well, you knew it was coming. I just got my HD2 today. I have to say that Evo is one sexy muthahucka!!! Too bad it's going to Sprint. :rolleyes:

Yet still no apps being saved to SD out the box. Deal breaker for me. Once Andriod delivers a good media player [CorePlayer] and allows apps to be save to SD out the box, then I'll consider getting another Andriod device.
[HD2 General] aceo07:
Video/audio codec support was a big issue for me as well.
[HD2 General] brucewilsonpa:
That's an interesting new insight but I don't understand what you mean by "root"?
[HD2 General] bored2nite:
Root is the android version of HSPL on windows. It allows you to do extra features, load custom images (or roms in our case)... those extra features r wifi tethering for free (our winmo phones do that out the box) and save apps 2 the sd card (ours does that out the box)...

other android users did this as well to get HTC Sense on their phone... but EVO and HD2 have sense out the box...

If we really wanna debate bigger and better... i say Winmo HTC Sense is way better because it is ONE package and NOT 10 different widgets u have to load... so i say it runs smoother with no lag compared to HTC sense on android...
[HD2 General] chefmonkey:
EVO doesnt change much in UK

The Evo sounds so wonderful with its 4G capabilities.

Awesome if you can get 4G.

UK residents need not get excited. Lets not forget the £Billions paid out by operators for their 3G licenses 6 years ago and despite ridiculously high prices, roaming charges, limited "unlimited" policies (fair usage!) etc etc. they are still trying to make that money back.

So who will build this 4G network and if the government do who can afford the licenses working on the last prices.

UK don't expect 4G soon, in fact focus on 5G it'll be ready by the time we can afford to build it.
[HD2 General] brynweb:
depsilon has spoken, and the verdict is final :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] Archer:
Come on man. Most users of XDA are familiar with this long-standing and much respected member of the community. The guy virtually lives on XDA!

I for one trust every word he says ;)
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Yes, objectively it pretty much says it all. Then there's personal taste and what actually matters to you, and that's what will ultimately make you choose a device or another. For example you might not care about playabity of various video formats so android might be great for you, I do so for now I wouldn't choose an android device.
[HD2 General] xyzavp:
i hate my hd2 these day... i can't update it wm7 or ex. also i hate winmo 6.5 . I bought hd2 because i knew that there mounts ago, my hd2 could update winmo7. i am very sad for these reason.
[HD2 General] lonelykatana:
stfu and buy an iphone, cry baby.
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
Never has there been a "Yes, you can upgrade the HD2 to WP7S", so you bought it on a rumour.
[HD2 General] ozkaya:
actually, there has been a confirmation for me from the HTC support. But 2 days ago I received another email that I have been misinformed by this guy and the guy that gave this info is no longer working with them.
[HD2 General] DeekoVB5:
Honestly, the only thing I'm really jealous of is the 720P video recording. 8MP camera is a nice number and all that, but lets be serious - camera quality on cell phones is just not very good, and it has nothing to do with megapixel count. 10 years ago I had a 2MP Olympus that took far better pictures than my 5MP HD2, Droid, or 3MP G1 could ever dream of. The only phone I've owned that even comes close is the N95, thanks to its Carl Zeiss lens, but even that wasn't the same.

WiMax is nice, a definite win for Sprint to get the first 4G phone out there, but here in the US, T-Mobile will have HSPA+ in a whole lot more markets by the end of 2010 than Sprint will have WiMax.

Other than those two things, the hardware is virtually identical to the HD2. Android is fun for awhile, but after a G1 and a Droid, I was bored with it.

Also, remember 'Palm Pre Syndrome'. A phone is announced really early, it sounds awesome, but when its finally released, its nothing special anymore. Snapdragon 1GHz and 512RAM is top of the line today (although its a milestone that was reached 6 months ago), but that edge is about to jump to the next gen. Android 2.1 was all the rage in January 2010, but I'm sure 2.5 will be out by then, with 3.0 in development already. Sense devices on Android are VERY slow to get updates, so much like Hero users still stuck with 1.5, that Android 2.1 will seem dated very quickly.

So anyway, to summarize this long winded diatribe, the Evo is a great phone...today, but its nothing earth-shattering, and by the time its finally released it will be matched or bested by other phones.
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
So, it wasn't official, so my statement still stands.
[HD2 General] webjunky:
i would like to know this aswell :)

EVO with a SPB Mobile Shell 5.0 :rolleyes::D
[HD2 General] Thuggie:
will this make it easier to get Android on HD2 since the EVO seems to be a very similar phone... ?
[HD2 General] rumpleforeskin:
I keep hearing people wanting android porting to the HD2, am i the only one who would rather see wm 6.5 ported to EVO?

Most powerfull operating system with the EVO hardware would be a great combination
[HD2 General] mZimm:
The EVO will not work in Europe, as all of Europe that I am aware of uses GSM technology and the EVO is being released as a CDMA phone, which means it does not use a SIM card and cannot be imported to Europe.

This is also unlikely because the EVO and the HD2 use different chipsets. Due to the CDMA vs GSM difference the Snapdragon chipset is a different model. Additionally, the 8MP camera and other small differences don't really make it any easier for Android to be ported. I wouldn't count on a reliable Android port for the HD2 for a long time.

Yes, I'm pretty sure you are the only one saying this...at least the first that I've heard even bring this up and I've read a lot of forums and blogs about these two phones. WM6.5 just isn't very popular right now, and Android is gaining marketshare and popularity simultaneously.
[HD2 General] meegulthwarp:
I wonder if the 8MP camera on the EVO uses the same cage and pin-out as the one on the HD2, if so I would love to try it in the HD2 as some members have claimed that the HD2 looks to be built for a 8MP. As the camera is the only thing I'm jealous of on the EVO, the rest are offset by the bulkier build.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i heared that also somewhere that the hd2 has 8 mp sensor and 720 p record but as wm6.5 does support 720 so it was deactivated and i think they has't written the mpix on camera like on other devices ,because ifthey could upgrade the camera in future updates ,like what is done with sonyericsson satio ,it was upgraded to record to wvga instead of vga
[HD2 General] depsilon:
The Verdict: HD2 vs EVO

I don't expect any of you to take me at my word, do the research and you will find many of the technical failures I did about the WP7 platform and WiMax. Many of the statements I make come from personal experience with these technologies and regurgitated industry insiders.

Thanks for the fun pokes and I don't post much (duh) But I think it is important to bring these issues up when talking about these products so the buyer can make a more informed decision - I believe that is part of why XDA exists (XDA members answer questions the OEMs and service providers don't like answering) Sorry if I offended anyone, but watch the market and you will see my forecasting is not that far off. :o
[HD2 General] :
Well I thought what you wrote was very informative and realistic !! :)

Please post more Dude !! ;)

PS : What do people think of the HTC Incredible ?? :confused:
[G1 Android Development] androidboy69:
Was going through google labs page and found this.

http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/

helpful to any one?
[G1 Android Development] domenukk:
Sounds awsome. developing in the bus (instead of playing pokemon :P)
[G1 Android Development] androidboy69:
lol i guess im not much of a dev but since you guys have helped so much, i just wanted to throw it and see who sees use in it.
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
This is probably what that bar code designer uses.Looks helpful for app devs.
[G1 Android Development] nickstewartroc:
Saw this right after i downloaded and messed around with it, one thing is the shortcut feature dosnt work on the droid eris port by king, would have been perfect otherwise
[G1 Android Development] androidboy69:
out of topic but im also using an eris port but on my sprint hero and it works perfectly fine does it matter?
[Nexus One General] mudrock1000:
DO i have to do it via fastboot? I don't want to erase everything and everytime I do the radio update via RA it reverts me back to stock :/
[Nexus One General] craigacgomez:
if you just update ur radio, it'll not erase anything... if you have the image file (.img), it should be flashed via fastboot... if you have a update zip, it can be flash via RA recovery...
[Nexus One General] mudrock1000:
The one i flashed was the full update zip stock from Modaco. Am I getting it from the wrong place or am i installing the wrong one or what?

Its not that I'm a noob, its just the last time i did anything to the radio was when i first rooted my n1. I haven't looked back since than :P
[Nexus One General] PhantomRampage:
Thats the entire OTA update, all you need is the radio img. Get it from cyanogen's page

-Edit-

here's the link: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?/topic/150-cyanogenmod-for-nexus-one-v5053-03232010/?

What you're looking for is "Radio Image (fastboot flash radio): 20100203_2 (EPE54B)"
[Nexus One General] mudrock1000:
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I knew something was off
[Nexus One General] deprecate:
Just make certain that you are using the radio image for your device (tmo vs att nexus one).
[General Questions and Answers] etaprime:
i am running cyanogen 5.0.4.2 and tried to upgrade to 5.0.5 but i ran my update root zip insted and now i have no root access but superuser ninja icon is still there can anyone help

can i just run the stock no root zip and then run my root zip
[Click Android Development] mafiapanda:
Hello is there a way i can see paid apps on my tattoo?

I used the market fix, but it didnt show me paid apps.

Is there a way to see paid apps?

Thank you so much.

PS. i have root access and i can push data.
[Click Android Development] Zecanilis:
You allready asked the same question in another thread.

Next time try to read a bit, to see if there is some thread about it.

And if you know about market fix, then you know it's thread.

So, please try to keep the forum clean!
[Click Android Development] marsdroid:
the attitude will not get us a market fix jeg uploader det senere ..

THX

Marsdroid
[Click Android Development] mafiapanda:
Mange tak hehe det vil jeg glAede mIg tIl.
[Click Android Development] kiljacken:
Danmark styrer!!
[Click Android Development] marsdroid:
here is the apk that let you SEARCH for paid apps i market... not all is shown

add marketspoof widget it have to be white before u open market

THX

Marsdroid

works perfect on fyodor 0.5
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] homedog:
A big problem:confused:. My phone works good , but after 4-5 calls or messages he just stop playing a ringtone and vibrate ... i search on settings when this problem is on and seems that he chaNge the ringtone by itself. To make him work again i need to reset or off - on... i reinstall windows but i have same problem.:mad:

Sorry about my english:o
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
Does the phone actually change the settings OR does it keep the correct settings but just stops ringing?

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] homedog:
he keeps the correct settings and sometimes change the ringtone to default and stop ringing,when i receaive a call just vibrate sometimes and at a sms is doing nothing...