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[Nexus One General] Gr8gorilla:
HUH?

I hate SENSE UI. For me Sense is is just useless bloat, but that is an opinion. I have tried the Desire ROM on my N1 and I had it installed for all of about 20Min before I decided that I preferred the Stock N1 experience. Now if you like sense, then you should buy a Desire, thats all I am sayin.
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
I don't want sense UI

I do like trackball colour notifications.

I do like having a device that can be updated efficiently, and unlocked easily.

Also, i see the desire as the nexus one for HTC, if that makes sense, if they had made the nexus one by themselves, thats how it would have looked. I think the desire is a good alternative, but not necessarily 'better'. I am happy with my n1.
[Nexus One General] johnlujl123:
Never heard of maintaining a trackball??? That's stupid!

We both know that I know much more than you. You're talking like a amateur, so hold your own*&^*&^*^*& yourself! :D

*&^*&^*

**Mod edit, foul language removed.**
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
What the hell?

Agree on what?

The N1 makes a fool out of Google or the Desire does?

And what the heck does it mean to make a fool out of Google?

This poll makes no sense whatsoever.
[Nexus One General] azalex86:
I don't think I use the trackball enough for it to even wear out prior to me upgrading to a new phone in 1-2 years...

I'm also wondering about the accuracy of the optical trackball.

I'm not interested in switching to the Desire. I like the capacitive buttons on the N1...I haven't had a problem with them since I first unboxed the phone. Plus because theyre flush with the screen (under it), you wont get additional dust and gunk in between the buttons.
[Nexus One General] britoso:
I guess I'm a jackass too who has never cleaned the phone trackball. :rolleyes:

btw I disagree with all 4 points too and seem to be in the majority with 17-1 (one being you! )
[Nexus One General] vegetaleb:
The only thing the Desire as better is the speaker's volume, but for all the rest the N1 is the winner specially its look compared to the oldschool one of Desire.

Sense? put the Desire ROM and voila :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] e4604:
dip&*^*&^ trying stir something up, gtfo!!

**Mod edit, foul language removed.**
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
From what I'm reading it's no better, but early days yet to be making many comparisons.
[Nexus One General] deprecate:
here's an idea...go buy a desire.

end of discussion.
[Nexus One General] grainysand:
The only jackass here, sir, is you. Go troll elsewhere, ........................... :)

**Mod edit, foul language removed.**
[Nexus One General] DarkDvr:
+11111

Absolutely. After research on both devices (I wanted Desire first), I've decided to go with Nexus for noise-cancelling mics. For me, that beats the hell out of the ugly (in my opinion) hardware buttons. Regarding trackball - it's a touchscreen-focused device, I barely use that trackball at all.

N1 has a guarantee for first-serve updates directly from google. Desire doesn't.

N1 has dual mics. Desire doesn't.

In my opinion, N1 has a much sexier design, while Desire looks like a brown brick.

And just a piece of mind.. google breathed on HTC's neck throughout the development process, and that makes me feel better than about a device purely made by HTC. (That's after struggling with TyTn, Kaiser, TP1, TP2 for years.)

So it's a personal preference. Being well aware of the differences, I went with N1. Besides, the brown color of Desire is *burp*.
[Nexus One General] timmymarsh:
Stop the flaming and bad language please

Ok Gents,

Im happy to keep this thread open for now, as all statements are subjective and i wouldnt want to stop a debate.

BUT the use on foul language and flaming each other is against the rules as you all know, so quit it, or the thread will be closed and those offending parties will receive a holiday (a ban from xda).

ENjoy, keep it clean and dont get a ban.......simplezzzzzzzzzz.:cool:

ntw offending posts cleaned.
[Nexus One General] johnlujl123:
It's "them" started with it. I'll make sure it stays clean! Actually you should ban everyone that starts flaming for no reason. This thread is made to see how great or bad Desire looks when compared to Nexus One. Those who are using bad language are unsatisfied persons, cuz they know they made a bad decision by buying Nexus one, while knowing that Desire is better in some ways.
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
The trackball doesn't get used nearly enough to run into the issues Blackberry users experience with theirs, where the trackball is the only form of navigation. I think I might use my trackball once a week, if that.

SenseUI is totally a personal option, and while I am currently running a Desire ROM on my N1, that is just because I like flashing different ROMs. I prefer the stock UI more than the SenseUI in many ways. Just as I prefer SenseUI in some other ways... mostly I like the improved exchange support and cutting edge feeling of running a Desire ROM.

Anyways, I don't think HTC has made a fool out of anyone. The Nexus One came out, what, 3 months ago and has the same specs, minus HTC's add ons and different button layout. As well, the Nexus One is meant to be the flagship Google store and Google phone, device. It isn't positioned to be the best Android device ever, it is positioned to launch the Google store and promote the use and advancment of superphone specs in Android OS... esecntially, it is a show piece of what the stock Android OS can do on the best hardware available, while keeping the price point where average joes can buy it.

You seem to miss this, that the Nexus One isn't about being the best phone ever, it is about being a successful device in terms of launching the Google store, and showing off what proper hardware specs can do with Android OS. By those measures, it has been a success. Google has learned a lot about how to sell an unlocked phone, and the phone is powerful enough to take full advantage of Android, and developers are seeing this and starting to come out with all sorts of apps taking advantage of that.
[Nexus One General] johnlujl123:
Totally agree! :)

Other kids here should take your example!
[Nexus One General] 3bs:
1. Opinion - I can't recall ever hitting the touch sensitive buttons inadvertently

2. Opinion - I find them very convenient

3. Speculation - Have there been reports of trackball issues?

4. Opinion - I tried Sense UI and thought it sucked. It's an easy port to N1 if you like it anyway.

Stop trolling
[Nexus One General] maxawesome:
This is like saying that HTC is making a fool out of T-Mobile for the G1.

Because HTC made the G1, the N1, and the Desire, there is no "fool-making" going on.

I, for one, prefer the look and feel of the N1. The only thing about the Desire I like more that the FM Radio works OOB (but I'm confident the devs here will get that going for the N1 before long).

I'm using Modaco's Desire2Nexus port, and its ok, but it is very bloated. I'm using it for the HTC Work Mail app, which I suppose I could just as easily port to the N1 myself and not miss much about Sense UI.

On the other hand, I would step over my own mother to have the HTC Evo 4G (if it had GSM 800/900/1900/2100 radio instead of CDMA). If anything "makes a fool of Google" (this is a ridiculous statement), that phone would.
[Nexus One General] j.bruha:
Personal preference for the hardware buttons and optical trackpad, and the Desire ROM takes care of the Sense UI issue. I actually don't like Sense at all. It's really cluttered, duplicates a lot of functionality, and opens up more than I'll ever need to use as far as customization is concerned.
[Nexus One General] johnlujl123:
So which one would you choose: Desire without Sense UI or simply Nexus One?? :)
[Nexus One General] j.bruha:
If all things were equal otherwise, I'd still pick the Nexus One, but even moreso since A) it's not out yet at all and B) when it does come to the US, it won't work with AT&T's 3G unless the rumors pan out to be true. I'm quite positive it's going to another carrier instead in the US.
[Nexus One General] johnlujl123:
hey, you are on my list too. Till the end of time! maybe even after that...if possible :cool:
[Nexus One General] pvillasuso:
1. Agree , its nice .. but I had a Hero , and believe me they get also accidentally pressed

2. Agree , good location ..

This 2 features are > what I miss the most . coming from The HTC Hero

3. Don't agree, I like the trackball better ( Nice trackball alerts )

4. Don't agree, I DONT like HTC Sense ( but u can include the Sense @ N1 )

You forgot the better camera app , and the FM radio @ Desire

But wait....

I got my N1 working same as the Desire :eek: ( thanks devs )

And it wont be long till we also get the FM working too ( same hadware ) :eek:

No Desire for me , but thanks anyway for trying to sell me one ! :D
[Nexus One General] JAW$:
Also the Nexus One has a superior GPu then the Desire.

The Desire has a cheaper version which HTC decided to use to save money.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
Lol at this thread, I hate how HTC releases like 20 phones all running the same OS in one year and creating debates and break ups in the Android community.. of course variety is good, but Jesus Christ.. Android users are turning against other Android users about their phones!
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Your post is blithering nonsense.

I've yet to accidentally hit the capacitive touch buttons, and they are logically located at the bottom of the display. Where would you put them...? The top of the phone? How would you use one hand to operate that?! I can't speak about having to "look down to see the buttons"... can you think of any instance where you'd be pushing buttons on the N1 or the Desire without looking at them? Really?! Cuz I call B.S.

My trackball works perfectly fine, though I use it infrequently, and so I'm sure it'll last the life of the phone.

HTC Sense is pretty, but I want a pure Google experience that gets updates right away... I don't want to wait 6 months for HTC to update Sense.

Again, your post is garbage. I'm not saying the Desire isn't a great phone... I'm just saying that it being a great phone doesn't make the Nexus One being equally great mutually exclusive!

Clearly the poll results say it all.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
Why does any one have to look down at the buttons of all, its not that hard to memorize their positions, and even so, your eyes are going to always see anything located on the front of the phone regardless if you are purposely looking at it all.

Also, when the OP said the trackball will require maintenance - I'm going to assume he means because it can attract dirt and other things. Which will require you to 'maintain' its cleanliness. Everything is simply personal preference, which is how it usually is. No phone can be physically better than the other anyways, as the outward appearance will simply be what your mind prefers over the other. Though, the internals can be judged easily. Thus, meaning the Desire would better than the Nexus because of its more RAM, that I don't believe is going to even be entirely used - and the Nexus could be better than the Desire because of the noise cancellation microphone that improves call clarity and voice features.

There really is just no winner..
[Nexus One General] redrazr7791:
The SIM unlocked version still hasn't been fully released correct?

For all we know...there MIGHT be some differences. Until people who have pre-ordered the SIM unlocked version get theirs...I still wouldn't judge as to which phone is the "best":cool:
[Nexus One General] deprecate:
If this is what your "debate" boils down to, the answer is rather simple.

http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html

Until HTC, who is a member of the OHA, actually OPENS up their phones fully, I don't have a need or...wait for it...desire (ha ha), to own a desire. oem unlock is such a beautiful thing on my phone...my open phone. Why would I take an evolutionary step backwards for an extremely proprietary UI? You know the beauty though which I have being an n1 owner? I have the freedom/option to toss senseUI on my phone if I want :)

As stated before...go buy a desire and be done here.
[Nexus One General] hilaireg:
As a moderator has already been here once to issue a warning, and since there are over 2.2 million members to manage on this forum, I'm going to close this thread.

It's sad to see that fellow members can't agree to disagree while maintaining respect for each other in the process. I would also remind folks that the best moderation is self-moderation.
[Desire General] johnlujl123:
Let talk about the Nexus One first:

1. it has touch-sensitive buttons => prone to accidental touch/press

2. those buttons are located

right below

display (ABOVE the trackball) => not convenient

3. it has a trackball => subjected to regular maintenance

4. it has NO Sense UI (or HTC SENSE) => this makes no sense!

Then the HTC Desire:

1. has physical (hardware) buttons => not prone to accidental touches, no issue with touch-sensitivity

2. hardware buttons are located at both sides of the optical trackpad => means better handling, faster in operating/using your phone and makes "looking down to see where the buttons are" almost obsolete

3. has an optical trackpad => faster response and no maintenance needed

4. has HTC Sense => sensifying your UI

Out of these, described above, you can see that HTC is still saying they're the one "that's in charge"! So HTC says: "Google back off!" :D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webkyaw:
Sorry if this has been posted, but I've searched in various X1 forums with a few keywords as well as google with no luck.

I've been trying a few different roms and while i really liked the barebone 6.5 R5 rom, I find the completeness of 1.00.Kovsky rom with TF3D to be the most useful. However, I notice for a second time that when I run the Synchro Time app, the HOME TF3D clock animation stop working. I've tried soft reset and taken out the battery 5 sec and put back in with no luck. I see the actual clock is still working when I go into the clock settings, but the animation display is frozen. Any idea/help please?

TIA
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webkyaw:
Wow, some views with no reply. Am I the only one using this ROM and have issues? I've tried hardreset twice without even messing with the time sync app and it happened again.

Having a working clock on my home screen is kinda essential to me. Can anyone else suggest a very light and small ROM that has TF3D? That's all I really need for my X1. Thanks for your time.
[Hero CDMA General] KBizzle:
So I installed LVH(Louder Volume Hack) yesterday. I only selected the V2r2 option originally and everything was fine. This morning I made a phone call without any issues. Well I wanted to try the IC option to try and increase the in call volume. I selected IC2 but didnt take any calls or make any. Now just a couple min ago, I picked up my phone to make a call, there is no sound coming out of my earpiece. I went back into LVH and selected "stock" to get the stock settings back, still no sound. Im hoping someone can tell me what to do to fix this. Im worried it is screwed up.

EDIT: Now it is working out of the blue!! Wth. Had me freaked.
[Touch2 ROM Development] Johan Kraczmar:
ROM Windows Mobile 6.5

Here you can find two version of ROM

1. ROM 6.5 WWE_1.32.729.3_Radio_Signed_61.48t.25.33_3.50.25.15_Ship.

Removed : Marketplace, Copilot

ROM is tested, stable and fast with no bugs.

Link : ----- HERE -------

Don´t forget to make HARD RESET after flash.

Recommended applications :

Johan_Taskbar

Johan_XDA_shutdown
[Touch2 ROM Development] NJackal:
hmmmm new ROM here ok will test it on morething can u cook a WinMo 6.5.3 lite rom
[Touch2 ROM Development] cosmo1:
exist a ROM with romanian language in it??
[Touch2 ROM Development] secosan:
There is a romanian ROM if I am not mistaking, but, it has not been updated, so no one will be cooking it any time soon.

As soon as it will be updated, a cooked version will appear.
[Touch2 ROM Development] NJackal:
hey john can u cook a 6.1 clean rom for mega
[Touch2 ROM Development] Johan Kraczmar:
Can be 6.5.5 ???
[Touch2 ROM Development] ravitej1221:
Rapidshare links plz...

thank u very much for the rom but can upload in rapidshare or megaupload.....i am in china and sendspace is blocked here
[Touch2 ROM Development] NJackal:
sure bro even a lite rom on 6.5.5 is kewl
[Touch2 ROM Development] TangerineTractor:
This is a VERY nice ROM - but one BIG BIG BUG... you can't open a message or create a new message (email or SMS)

You need to disable task manager icon form the today screen as it messes witht he clock

Is there a way to change the font on the softkeys... havibg 'Cpnt...' is nmore than just annoying!

WIll have to blast something else until there's a fix for the messaging issue.... and Johan, I know you love Manila, but many of us don't like it or lots of the other 'frills' - a version without manila would be nice...
[Touch2 ROM Development] Johan Kraczmar:
Thank you for feedback, I found this message bug too and now I try to fix it.
[Touch2 ROM Development] manzoor.e.elahi:
Plus there is a scrollbar visible in the dialer screen without any apparent reason. please take a look at that, too.

Thanks for the nice rom btw. :)
[Touch2 ROM Development] Johan Kraczmar:
Do you have screenshot?
[Touch2 ROM Development] LtBlue:
Same thing with Chriss's 6.5.5 ROM !
[Touch2 ROM Development] TangerineTractor:
Try this dailler, black no scrollbars
[Touch2 ROM Development] Johan Kraczmar:
THX, I will try it and put in to new version. :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] whatabambam:
Hi,

I am looking CAB for EzInput 2.0, 2.1 or 2.5 which works well on lastes stock HTC ROM. I tried few versions but after install, my diamond was not able to boot anymore so i made few hard resets last time. If anyone has CAB file with version which works on sotck ROM please attach it. Thank you.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] whatabambam:
Anybody is able to help me?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] whatabambam:
Please guys, help me...
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] sajib0189:
now i m using 6.5 R5a Rom, its have xperia r3a camera.

but i already installed HTC camera but its not starting if i click it.

i think its need change camera registry from r3a to HTC.

i m also using registry editor.

so, how can i change registry or change camera from R3a to HTc?

can anybody help me....please.

i m boring in my R3a camera cause its picture quality not sharp. most of them are blurry and low picture size. i think 3.2 camera picture is good when it takes more spaces. my xperia takes only 300 KB, for 3.2 MP its should be higher then 2 MB.

please anybody help me, how can i switch camera and picture sizes.

regards.....
[General Questions and Answers] debs626:
Hello there

Firstly like to say Thank you very much for taking the time to look in on my thread :)

OK - I've acquired a 2nd hand O2 XDA Orbit 2 and its running Windows mobile 6.1

I've not installed much onto it - Nimbuz and Opera, windows marketplace and windows mobile device center on my pc. I know very little about this phone and have only just figured out how to install apps.

First problem - even if I sit next to my router (wifi connection) I get a connection error on most internet applications I have to reboot router and phone to solve this - What settings do I need to change to stop this happening ? I've tried to use the windows update in system settings and it never works :(

2nd problem - its very slow, I've installed apps to my storage card, I've only taken 2 pictures and one tiny video - is there something I can do to help speed the phone up ?

Is the OS upgradable ? if so whats the best OS version for my phone and where or how would I acquire this.

What apps should I be installing - I like to listen to internet radio (pirate) so the app has to er very configurable. watch online tv - BBC - Hulu ect. I use twitter, FB, gmail and surf the net a lot.

Please help me get the best out of my Gadget :)

Thanks very much for reading this far and I would greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions.

TIA

Debs :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] markj113:
Im considering ditching sense and giving spb mobile shell a go (using miri's cooked rom with sense removed)

Can anyone recommend a theme that shows off the hd2 in all its glory.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] shu8i:
if you ditched sense anyway go get touchxperience. much better than spb in my opinion.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] cd78:
Where can i download touchxperience?? looks amazing!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] shu8i:
you have to donate to shaps to become a beta tester.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] cd78:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=604146

this is my fave spb ms3 theme :D

@shu8i - think i'll wait till its more freely available. Looks amazing though!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ReneGoetz:
my problem with this "TouchXperience" is the last post there...

"A public beta will be available soon. Check out the news in the following weeks !"

this is from October 12 of 2006 11:00.!?

When will start the release when the closed Beta needs more than 178 weeks??? 2100??
[HD2 General] ephestione:
I'm sure most leave all the tabs active as per default configuration, yet I like a slim system where everything is there only because I need it, and everything else is removed to save resources (and I'm sure there's plenty of you who think the same).

Now, in my case, other than the new reader and documents tabs, which are not even in my rom, and sound useless for my kind of use of the device, I have currently disabled (and thus would love to fully delete from internal memory):

- Calendar: eye-catching but useless unless a newer, better version is released, vanilla pocketoutlook calendar may be ugly but has functions I need and are missing from htc's

- Internet: what's the point of having an internet tab when I can just add opera to the visible quicklinks in the home

- Stocks: not a single one from the ETF funds I own can be reachable through yahoo stocks, so the tab has no purpose at all

- Music: as per calendar, eye-catching but useless, mortplayer behaves heaps better

- Footprints: used it just once, wasn't even that efficient

To top it off, I have twitter tab active, but I would gladly remove that as well since there is plenty of valid standalone twitter clients for WM.

Summing it up, I believe deleting all those tabs would save at least 100MB from internal memory.

Any idea how to accomplish this, if not by removing them from an already flashed rom, by "cooking them out"?
[HD2 General] pa49:
Revert to using Titanium UI and HTC sense is not loaded at all.

Phone is quicker and more responsive.

Sense uses about 30Mb of program memory.
[HD2 General] ephestione:
I actually plan to continue using sense (at least for the time) my primary concern being the availability of most free space possible in the internal memory, since the speed of my device is ok with me now.

I sincerely believed Sense required way more than just 30MB, since my rom's chef advised he needed to take up to 20 more megabytes to add document and reader tabs into the newer versions of his rom, and I made some easy proportions ;)

I also just disabled the people tab, I replaced it with a quicklink to pocketoutlook contacts in home, and I will probably end up using just the plain WM interface if I find something like cookiemonster home plugin for vanilla WM
[Desire General] Raminder1992:
Well I have received my first bill from T-mobile.

It says my last statement was -£129 and they have taken £15 from that for my monthly contract.

It now says that the amount due is -£114.

I know the £129 is because that is how much the phone cost but why the -??

It is the same on my online bill.

Anyone else have this?
[Desire General] trice1921:
Mines the same. I'm just hoping they don't notice. Did you order online, then call up to get it dispatched on release day?
[Desire General] evildead4eva:
if your upgrading and your contarct is less then they deduct it. T-mobile owe me £16 as my phone bill is now £15. Luckily I didnt have to pay for the phone ;)