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[HD2 General] neil_swann80:
Tell them your 3-phone is being repaired and you will be using the HD2 in the meantime. If they do not assist cancel or refuse to pay your contract. If you're not getting access to the services you're paying for, I'd say they're in breach of the contract anyway.
[HD2 General] pa49:
Since when was an HD2 a 2g phone?

Switch back and get the 3G access and then use the HD2 in 3G mode. Or am I missing something?

I use 4 different phones (three of them so called "unsupported" phones) and two different internet modems on my 3 service and I have no such problem.

Why would they want to deny you the service that they have contracted with you to provide and for which you are paying?

It doesn't make sense!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kainzo:
My brothers phone was dropped (apparently hes a bit clumsy!) Whenever he was texting using the keyboard, it was making some very strange characters on the screen, whenever he would push 1 key, several would appear, etc.

't' ='d 's03' etc... stuff like that.. obviously thought a reboot would fix the issue. So when we rebooted the phone, it turned out that it couldnt get past the g1 screen and was stuck at the Triangle with the yellow exclamation point. Pushing ALT+L showed the recovery screen. We went through the appropriate options and held down back + home for 25+ secs to get it to reboot. It rebooted fine and worked for an hour or so, until the Voice Search just kept popping up as if he was asking it to, so we tried to reboot the phone again and do the recovery thing, this time it wouldn't get past the recovery after holding down home + back. I can't push back + home either to get it to restart, so I'm thinking the home key may be broken or stuck.

Any thoughts on this issue or has anyone else experience such? He'll more than likely be sending it in today since its still under warranty and has NOT been rooted.

Thanks!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadow_wing:
same thing happened to my first g1..its a hardware issue send it in ;)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kainzo:
Was hoping it wasn't a hardware thing, but so be it. Thanks for the heads up.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
Hello experts,

I always wonder if there's any way that we can get the informations (id, phone signal strength, bcch ...) from all the surround cells in Windows mobile 6 (with C#/C++ on my HTC touch HD). With RIL, we can only extract the info of current cell, but not the neighbors.

I'm inspired by this thread which was created in the forum by binary64:

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=610759

However without the code i still haven't figured how did he extract the values of the 6 towers...

Base on the research i've done, it seems impossible to get the real neighbors cell ID, however i'm really interested in the phone signal strength, bcch... that are possible to get. (as fieldtest.exe or what binary64 demonstrated)

Any idea would be precious to me, thank you very much
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
I think that the memory/registry approche seems to be the only solution

Does anyone know which part of the memory/registry in HTC contains the GSM informations ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
up thread

Sorry to spam, i just want to up my thread because i really want to have some answer :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
Progress

With RIL DevSpecific i've get to extract the values of Fieldtest, however i don't know the necessary parameters to get the source that fieldtest take as result.

Precisely, if i run fieldtest once, and use the devSpecific, i'll get the last result of fieldtest and always the same. If i run fieldtest again then use DevSpecific i'll get a new result (always latest result from Fieldtest).

Does anyone know where to find a document related to devSpecific ?

Thank you very much.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MuratNL:
Well you could execute "fieldtest.exe" in the /windows/ folder; it's like the old Nokia's "Netmonitor" wich was for "engineering purposes" :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
Thank you, my fieldtest.exe was always running ok, but in fact i'm trying to disassembly it with C++/C#. Do you (or anyone) know any source that we can buy the documents related to this subject ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MuratNL:
No, I'm sorry but i'm not a good coder so i have to dissapoint you...

Maybe someone here at XDA-DEV can help you? :cool:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
AT Command

Does anyone know a specific AT Command that can be used to extract the network info ?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
A spam question : Is there any condition for a member to get the answers of the experts ? i don't think that no one has an idea ...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pc18:
Hi Vietsuper,

This seems to be a more up to date thread, so I post this here as well.

I'm working on a HTC HD2, and I am trying to get pretty much the same info. neighbour BCCH carriers and their received signal strengths. Indeed, not only RIL does not offer info on the neighbour cells, but I keep getting ZEROs in all fields returned by RIL except the cellID, MCC, MNC and LAC.

I see that you found a way with RIL_DevSpecific. If you give me advice, directions or code pieces, I'd be interested to try it on my HD2.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
hi pc18,

Actually RIL_devSpecific allows you to extract the info of neighbor cells (ARFCN + RSSI) as the program fieldtest. However it just works along with fieldtest, without fieldtest you always get the same value not up to date. I think in fieldtest they add some more parameters that allow to refresh.

You can find some reference in the thread of binary64 of which the link i posted above.

( xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=610759 )

I'm searching for the document more specific about RIL_devSpecific, however i couldn't find. If you find it somewhere, i'll be very grateful if you can share.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pc18:
Hi vietsuper,

I've looked into the thread and got inspired by it. I think it is interesting. I also think it is very interesting that one can only get carrier information (attachment base and neighbours) via FieldTest. Unfortunately, using the code that I will paste below, I could only get a return value of -2147467263 which as far as I could see means E_NOTIMPL. Now, I could be wrong when building up the params to pass to RIL_DevSpecific(). Here it is:

hRes = RIL_Initialize(1, new RILRESULTCALLBACK(rilResultCallback), null, 0, 0, out hRil);
byte[] dev_command_buffer = new byte[] {84, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0x9c, 0x9b};
int size = Marshal.SizeOf(dev_command_buffer[0]) * dev_command_buffer.Length;
IntPtr buffer_pointer = Marshal.AllocHGlobal(size);
try
{
Marshal.Copy(dev_command_buffer, 0, buffer_pointer, dev_command_buffer.Length);
hRes = RIL_DevSpecific(hRil, buffer_pointer, 10);
}

Where do you think is the problem?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
I remember u said u use HTC HD2, so i think the RIL standard functions are implemented, so if u have imported the functions i should work.

I once did in C# and the code just simple as below and it worked well:

[DllImport("ril.dll")]
private static extern IntPtr RIL_Initialize(...

[DllImport("ril.dll")]
private static extern IntPtr RIL_DevSpecific(IntPtr hRil, byte[] lpbParams, uint dwSize);

//in my function
byte[] param = new byte[] { 0x84, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0x9C, 0x9B };
hRes = RIL_DevSpecific(hRil, param, 10);

you even just need {0x84,0,0,0} for the same result, because commandId=0x84 is enough.

If u still get E_NOTIMPL may be u need to create/copy ur own ril.dll somewhere, but i think it's unlikely because i think HTC HD (my phone) and HTC HD2 have the similar implementation for RIL.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
Memory dump

I'm desperate to find the info directly in the memory. There's something a little bit interesting that i found out.

There's a sequence of responses to AT Command writing in ASCII:

@HTCCSQ:3

@HTCCSQ:4

@HTCCSQ:2

+CREG: 1,"000C","9F60" (here we has current LAC + Cell ID)

+CREG: 1,"000C","9BC7" (another LAC + Cell ID, i think it's the previous one)

+COPS: 0,2,"20820",3 (inside the "" are MCC MNC)

@HTCCSQ:3 .... (there's plenty of @HTCCSQ: coming next )

Look like some kind of log of the querries of RIL driver to the modem (i'm not sure), just sure that it wasn't my programs who send the command.

may be we can get to the other network info too. Any ideas ?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pc18:
Thanks vietsuper for your help. I finally arrived at some result. Indeed, a hexdump of the data that's being received from ril_devspecific gives the last information that's displayed by fieldtest. With fieldtest running in the backgound one can get fresh information (ie with a new request every, say, 2 secs).

I see two problems at the moment:

1) does anyone know at this point how to turn the memory zone pointed to by the IntPtr into a struct? or will i have to parse the hexdump for the neighbour cell information (BCCH number and received signal strength)?

2) fieldtest will only return neighbour information when the telephone displays Edge available (GSM menu item); whenever the phone displays the 3G status icon, neighbor cell information is no longer available (ie NCell1 0 -99dbm); does anyone have any idea?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
1> In C#, you can use Marshal.PtrToStructure to copy the IntPtr to a structure/class u created. To dump memory you Marshal.Copy to a byte array and BitConverter.toString(array). I think if you want to read the full neighbor cell info, as what i wrote above you must do research in some memory zones or make a direct stream connection to the gsm modem and querry with AT Command.

2> Fieldtest can show different kind of info depending on the option you choose in the "group" menu. The neighbor cell info are only available for gsm option, so if your phone has the 3G status, means that it connect to a 3G tower, the gsm info in Fieldtest is no longer available, you must choose other options for 3G.

If you have any progress in any way that i mentioned (AT Command / Memory dump), please share to me too, thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pc18:
Thanks. This is valuable info. I am looking into the directions you pointed out to.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
Memory dump

I've found something else by dumping the memory, this time it isn't some AT Command log but a fixed structure :

00 00 ... 00 [4 bytes LAC][4 bytes Cell ID][3 chars MCC][2 chars MNC] 01(unknown byte) 00 ... 00 00

I think there'll be other memory blocs that contain neighbor cell info, however i haven't found.

Hope someone can share ...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietsuper:
Fieldtest rssi

Does any one know why the RSSI shown in Fieldtest have a distance of 15-20 dB compare to the value of GetSignalQuality ?

In my opinion:

- GetSignalQuality shows the initial signal strength captured by the phone (Rx), because the value is calculated from the response AT+CSQ of the Radio modem.

- In Fieldtest / RIL_DevSpecific we have a weaker strength (-10 -20 db), may be it counts some other loss factors of device.

Any ideas ?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] victorasilvab:
Help using RIL_DevSpecific

Hi, guys would you share code to get that information. I work for a telecommunication company and I am also working on my MS degree project related to cellular networks. I will use the information to compare with cell database I have access to.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sejahtra:
Field test RSSI

Hi inspired by this treat and have experience on RF parameter measurement. RSSI from fieldtest exe is DAC value[0 -32] and from RIL_SignalQuality the rssi value already convert to dBm by formula.

My point on naighbor channel is the value should store in RAM individually, you should collect it from 6 storage location.

Rater than to get the value from RAM, its more simple to ask ARM processor to do measurement for us as fieldtest.exe do it.

The idea is to measure all available RF signal along the operator network, store to variable ==> you got it.

Challenge is how to set Radio signal manually?

Regards,:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] plex12345:
hi guys how do you turnoff the gsensor for topaz manila 2.5??:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Bruce Inman:
TD2 Tools can turn it off.
[Desire General] ash99:
I've had a Nexus one suffering with weak 3G reception on O2 UK and am wondering if the HTC Desire (a very close cousin), has the same problems ???

I would hate to get a HTC Desire and still have the same 3G problems.

The Issues I had with the Nexus One was the the phone would pickup and try keeping hold of a 3G signal, but it picked it up very weak, a 20-30dBm less than other phones.

Thanks for the information

Ash.
[Desire General] Karolis:
I thought N1's problem was dropping 3G, not weak signal.

Updated from G1 to Desire and I couldn't tell that 3G is weaker or stronger -- seems about the same.
[Desire General] wardy:
O2 !!

I have an Iphone and the 3G coverage for O2 is just silly compared to T-Mobile , Orange etc. I would say it is more likely the O2 network coverage at fault rather than the phone . Look on the O2 forum thousands of complaints about no Strong 3G signal in London !! on all phone makes .

Moving to T-mobile or Orange as soon as I can
[Desire General] hungabunga:
I agree O2 3G is very poor, tried a friends voda sim in my touch HD and speed tested at 4000kbs where my O2 could only manage 900kbs.
[Desire General] ash99:
To where I live, Ive tested T-Mobile, 3UK, O2 and Vodafone and they all suffer 3G Signal loss for me when using a Nexus One.
[Desire General] hungabunga:
Have you tried a different location or a different handset in the same location. It could be you are just in a poor reception area or on the edge of 3G coverage.
[Desire General] shep211:
The signal issue has nothing to do with n1-desire. T-mobile just sucks. n1 for at&t works fine but my n1 with t-mobile 3g sucks a$$.
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
The OP means T-Mobile UK not T-Mobile US

It's fine for me on T-Mobile, it drops between HSDPA and 3G A lot though.

Maybe there's a problem with the antenna in your handset?
[Desire General] ash99:
Ive lived as the same location for 10 years and had good 3G reception with loads of other phones.

Just interested to knowing how other people are getting on with it.
[Desire General] hungabunga:
Thats not good then ash, hope you get it sorted some how and the same problem does not exist with the desire.
[Desire General] Rusty!:
I think the problem is a combination of things... I live on the South Coast and have a Nexus One on Vodafone, 3G/HSDPA is great.
[Desire General] benko286:
Google Nexus One had that bug but it was fixed in update and since Desire comes with that update installed you are fine :)
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
Sorry I misread your post, I have no 3G issues with T-Mobile on the Desire. So it doesn't seem to have the same bug that the Nexus One did.
[Desire General] mhewitson:
Great signal so far - been all over Scotland the past weekend and if I didn't have H it went to 3G and if not then to G - and i was very pleasantly surprised to see that the web worked the whole time - just faster or slower. When my G1 didn't have a good 2G signal I couldn't use facebook or twitter, both were OK on the Desire - just slower to load!
[Desire General] ash99:
By the sounds of it so far so good. Potentially not a lemming after all !!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] life_proof:
Hi all,

Here is the problem:

I have tried all followings to root my device to install custom roms android martket, because I DONT HAVE ANDROID MARKET INSTALLED on my phone on original rom cause of the distributors idiot policy:

Goldcard Method (with different type 6 SD cards i.e.Kingston 2GB,San 2GB etc.)

Different 5 type rooting tutorials(xdaforum also included)

But I still cannot manage being a root :(

I'm a windows guy,so I tried these methods with my linux geek (they are really good on it) friends. Still nothing.

So I called HTC Turkey and Europe to unlock my phone because I didnt bought it with any contracts. They said that in April an update will come, so I already know that from the RSS's.

Any help is welcome. I really loved this phone but cannot use as much as I want to.

Here is my phones specs:

HTC Hero

Firmware:1.5

Baseband Version: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29

Kernel: 2.6.27-430d1aea htc-kernel and18-2#983

Build No: 2.73.468.74 CL#94651 release-keys

Software ver: 1.0.0.A6288

Thanks

Best

DiDi
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] life_proof:
solved

bought another kingston 2GB card and it works...root now :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bahaddin:
http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_37133587/tm.htm

http://www.ctrlpda.com/showthread.php?tid=10847
[Desire General] lukaswat:
This just in! 1 hour ago:

http://twitter.com/markmoons/status/11308010385

"Beste nieuws van vandaag: HTC Desire ligt voor op schema."

This means (from dutch):

"Best news of today: HTC Desire is ahead of schedule!"

Also, Mark Moons is the big boss of HTC Benelux :)

woot!
[Desire General] Hans12.:
hye lukaswat,

thanx! i'm one of the "dutchies" on this forum lol

and i wanna thank you for this link!

i ordered the desire from day 2 it was announced, so thats like allmost 2months ?

everyday, i look on youtube for some new videos.. and this is really great news !

pleas keep posting thing if you know something new... i'm not really a twitter person.

hartelijk dank lukaswat!
[Desire General] lukaswat:
Hey Hans! :)

Welcome to the club! I ordered it the first day it was announced, 16th of February. Today this is exactly 6 weeks ago. :)

Will do Hans! No thanks! :)
[Desire General] cartoonmoon:
Thanks lukaswat. Another Dutchie Desire Fan here (well, an Ex-Pat living in NL!)

It's been agonising seeing my UK friends take delivery of their phones as I wait patiently!

Thanks for the info!
[Desire General] lukaswat:
About the "schedule" he's talking about:

"Bij de officiele aankondiging hadden we "half April" gezegd. Desire is nu "begin April". Ik kan niet voor winkels spreken..."

This means:

"At the official announcement we told you "half of april". It will now be "early April", but i can't speak for the shops..."
[Desire General] Hans12.:
hmm,now I am dissapointed... PDAshop.be allready said desire's delivery date would be 9 april.

i tought it would be released on 1-2 april or something.

I actually dont get it, the devices are ready.... So why do we have to wait ?

i hope its worth it, i come from an iphone 3g 16gb, first android device for me :)
[Desire General] lukaswat:
Disappointed? Why? Mark already said the 9th of april was a proper delivery date, and he said that quite some time ago. And now he says it's ahead of schedule, so maaaaybe 2nd of april! God i hope so!
[Desire General] XDA mark:
Nice! I wont be back in NL until 25 April anyway, but this is great news for the other hollanders here ^^
[Desire General] Hans12.:
ohyeah , sorry... my bad:)

i hope so, what are you gonna do, first charge the battery ? or use it first...

where did you ordered it btw?
[Desire General] lukaswat:
I'm just gonna use it till its ~20%, and then use it while its on the charger :P and give it a couple of cycles of 20%-80% i think. :)

Ordered it at PDAShop/CoolBlue, a buddy of mine works there, and he said i'm probably like the 2nd or 3rd that has ordered there :P
[Desire General] Hans12.:
im gonna do just the same as you :p just play, play & play.

that could be, I was number 6 hehe the brown one ..
[Desire General] patasenko:
Hey guys what is the best way to buy this phone in NL???

i dont really care if it is under contract or not, as long as the contract is not more than 35 euro :D and it is 1 year.
[Desire General] awf:
Great news and it's according my supplier that 2 April is still delivery :-)
[Desire General] lukaswat:
Nobody knows yet, as no shop has delivered any phones yet..
[Desire General] Hans12.:
wich supplier ?:p
[Desire General] cartoonmoon:
Just checked the PDA Shop website again and I see they have bought the date forward by two days. It's showing "Verwachte leverdatum: 07-04-2010" (for the brown version, still showing as 9th for Silver).

Good news....could be better, but good news none the less!
[Desire General] DiZzle.:
I've ordered mine at algebeld.nl, and the delivery date is still april 2.

Here is a overview someone made on tweakers.net (thx mbrouns):

KPN/Hi	21-april

Telfort	17-april

PDAshop	9-april

Phonehouse 8-april

2Call	7-april

Dynabyte	7-april

GSMweb	2-april

Smartphonestunt	2-april

Vodafone	2-april

Algebeld	2-april

too bad Mark Moons didn't say any date.
[Desire General] patasenko:
Btw. is it possible to buy unlocked phone under contract in the netherlands?
[Desire General] Desirable:
Very good news, i ordered mine aswell at smartphoneshop.be, 2 days earlier, NICE :)
[Desire General] awf:
Well I tell you after delivery :D
[HD2 General] igotdatglow:
Hello all, I'm new to the board and had a couple questions I can't seem to find (I've spent time searching)

First off, let me say this. DO NOT TRUST THE RUBBER CASE that came with the TMO US HD2. I dropped mine from prob 2.5 feet up and it hit the corner with a very light thud. I thought the case protected it from the fall. It did, really well actually, but it didn't totally break the fall. The case failed and when you look inside the case there's noticeable damage. The inside of the case looks worse than the outside :mad: and now I have a nice ding on my phone. I thought the case totally protected the device but I was wrong :( It could've been much worse so I'll stop whining LOL.

Now to my questions. Who's using GMAIL via activesync to push their mail? It appears to be working, but it didn't copy any of the email from my labels. Is it supposed to? Or does it only track the changes I make to them AFTER the sync? When I had gmail synced using IMAP it never updated the contents of my folder labels. There's some things in those folders I'd love to have access to (since there's no GMAIL app for winmo).

Also, I use the included gchat app. Which is ok, but I don't get notifications of new messages. I have to check it periodically just to see if someone has IM'd me. Is this normal?

Thanks to anyone who can help, great forum!
[HD2 General] rickyoon.vegas:
Bumping this thread so you can get help on GMAIL because I'm clueless on that subject.
[HD2 General] igotdatglow:
Thanks, one more bump for help....:D
[HD2 General] rickyoon.vegas:
Seriously? no one?
[HD2 General] AllTheWay:
Pretty easy to set up actually.

Here are the instructions as provided by Google from there website.

http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299

For you user name just make sure to put your full Gmail E-maill address.
[HD2 General] igotdatglow:
Thanks for your response! But I already had it set up. The push mail seems to be working just fine. It even shows me my labels but nothing is in them. I wouldn't complain if there was a gmail app that i could use when I needed to see my labels...but noooooooooooooooo. Google and Microsoft have beef and we're getting shafted because of it
[HD2 General] xtenpeben:
GMAIL: once you've set up active sync, go to outlook's settings there's an option there that says if you want to view mails from up to 1 week ago, 1 month and so on, these are the messages it will try to sync to ur phone. Go there and select the settings that you want. then go back and view ur folders...

GTalk App: it does give u notifications, go to ur settings and check e-mail and chat, if that's not enough, go to gtalk's settings and also check play a sound on a new message.
[HD2 General] ~~Tito~~:
If you want it to sync your contacts and calendar and emails. Use the google Microsoft Exchange settings for active sync.