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[HD2 General] Finch44:
Current Phone

So I just checked online and it says my current phone is:

RIM

7290

but still shows a picture of my W510i.

So obviously the HD2 wouldnt be in their system and this is possibly their default unit when it doesnt recognize/have the phone in their system
[HD2 General] Finch44:
eastside770

IN response to: eastside770 hey i posted it on post 6

I downloaded both of the files and installed them in that order. Then I couldnt find anything to do with them on my phone? I went to file explorer and all i can click on is a voicemail icon and an MMS icon that does nothing. Does this require a ROM mod or anything? I apologize if its obvious. Like i said, this is my first smartphone :D But ya, I installed both of them on my storage card, good to go. Soft reset. Nothing new though: Where am I supposed to see these apps at or see the results/edit them?

Thanks,

Ryan

Also, is this in response to getting MediaNet set up or so AT&T doesnt know Im on a another phone (I dont know, maybe this messaging client hides stuff from AT&T somehow :confused:)
[HD2 General] lude219:
They sent you a lovely text about implementing a data plan on your phone because you're using MMS! MMS requires network data (not your wifi) so when someone sends you an MMS or you send them an MMS, it goes through the MMS proxy server that you set up...and VOILA...AT&T knows that you're transmitting data when you don't have a data plan.

So to recap in case you're still wondering why you're getting slap with a data plan:

SMS - no data plan required

MMS - data plan required

If you can't live with MMS, call them up and said it was a mistake and that now you're using an old phone (that's not a smartphone) and just ask them to put you on the regular medianet ($15) plan rather than the PDA/Smartphone ($30) plan that they're putting you on. You save $15 a month and get text as much MMS your heart desire.
[HD2 General] Finch44:
I Understand

lude219 -

I understand that. Dont worry Ive asked this before. MMS is included with Unlimited SMS for my plan on AT&T, as is IM as long as it is one of the programs pre-installed on the phone, so it doesnt require a data plan. I have triple checked this. Trust me, ive been going on MMS with no charges on my W510i for the last 3 years, and just recently called about 2 weeks ago to confirm MMS doesnt charge in preparation for the move to HD2. Im going to call and ask. But thanks for the MediaNet tip, kind of like the Tzones hidden plan with Tmobile. Ill give it my best.

Thanks for trying tho lude219! All help is appreciated
[HD2 General] lude219:
No offense Finch44, but you're completely wrong and ill-informed. When you use MMS on your W510i or whatever phone, you're probably doing it pay-per-use without noticing. Yes, MMS amount (and IM like you said) is covered under your SMS/messaging plan, but that doesn't mean that you can send it without a data. What do you think your proxy server set up is? What would happen if you didn't set up the MMS proxy to send/receive your MMS? Would you get it? Of course you wouldnt. MMS is multimedia messaging and therefore requires DATA. If you're not going by a data plan then you're getting charged per (MMS) message sent/receive. It's that simple.

Obviously you're in the dark about this that's why AT&T sent you a data plan text to remind you...
[HD2 General] :
Update

Just called at&t and informed them that I was trying a smartphone last night and I sent some MMS messages from it. He said ya it looks like its a smartphone but obviously if I was just testing it he'd change it back. So as of now Im back on my standard no data plan. Ill send some MMS messages later in the day and see if that triggers the "Data Charges" text again. I asked about the MediaNet package and he said if its a smartphone there is no possible way to get it. You HAVE to have the $30 dollar plan. And this guy was legit, I trust him. He did hook my plan up and was very understanding.

So If it turns out that I get chopped again by AT&T and forced on the data plan, Ill call and say I want MediaNet on my W510i because I dont have a smartphone and hopefully MediaNet will fix this smartphone problem. Then technically sending MMS will be taken care of and it wont show as a smartphone. Thats really my last ditch effort. Since im really just making this up as I go along we'll see what happens. But hopefully this reset he did to set it back to no Smartphone will last.

Fingers once again crossed :o
[HD2 General] HushH:
Sorry, I misunderstood your earlier post. I thought you were saying they "upgraded" your data plan to PDA from MediaNet. After hearing about T-Mo branded Nexus One users being pushed over to the PDA plan, I've been worried HD2 users will face the same fate.
[HD2 General] :
Lude 219

lude219 -

I understand it does send data. But since its for texting and I have unlimited text, it is not charged to my account. MMS is included and therefore data charges relating to texting are not counted towards my bill. I completely understand what your saying and yes it makes sense. When we originally got texting this was my first question - would i be charged for picture texting. No I would not. After the phone call with the AT&T rep less than 5 minutes ago I confirmed I am not charged for sending data via texting. I made a special point for him to check my bill with me online and he showed me all of my MMS texting over the past year and how it compared with my bill. Every MMS text was accounted for and uncharged due to it being included in the Unlimited Messaging plan.

Here is the description on my wireless bill of included features for unlimited Messaging:

Includes:

* Unlimited messages for your FamilyTalk group

Value the whole family can enjoy

Unlimited text, picture, video, and Instant Messaging (IM) messages for everyone in your FamilyTalk group. Never worry about costly overages again.

I hope that helps. If i had been doing pay per use for every mms id sent on my W510i over the past 2 or 3 years..... lets just say I would have been bankrupt long ago.

If this isnt what you were meaning or referring to I apologize, it seems like the best I could find. And speaking with two different reps and seeing my online bill say that in bold I feel comfortable with it.
[HD2 General] lude219:
I'm well aware of what messaging plans are, but I'm telling you that you can't send MMS without going through data, either through a pay-per-use basis or acquire a cheap data plan. Maybe they screwed up on their part for the last 2-3yrs and you've been getting free data with your MMS or you probably have some sort of data plan in there that you (or even the rep) overlooked. Who knows. Try sending MMS again on your W510i and on the HD2 without the data plan and let us know of the result...
[HD2 General] :
Lude 219

Ill wait till Im back home and then send away. Ill try and take some pics or a video so that I can post them together for you, hopefully answering or raising more questions. Again tho, im not arguing with you one bit on the fact that mms sends data. I agree and acknowledge this completely. When I called AT&T back and read them almost exactly what you wrote above, the techs response (And this wasnt some non-english speaking person who had a name of Bob), it was a Second Tier Tech (or whatever he said he was) who sure sounded like he knew what he was talking about:

"When you send a MMS, there is data exchanging and there are charges that you would have to pay if you were on a plan. But since you have an unlimited texting plan, which includes MMS, then your data charges are dropped due to the fact that they are grouped into your Texting Plan, no matter how big the file is. Since your account knows your on a plan, it will not show the data charges because they are not technically there. Once the MMS is processed, any data charge is erased from your account once it realizes you have Unlimited Texting as your plan. There is no way we could miss a data charge from an MMS file if you weren't on the plan because it would immediately post the KB usage it took to your account and be converted to however much you used. You either have unlimited texting and dont have to worry about data related to texting, or you dont- in which case you will be paying. You have Unlimited so therefore there will never be any charges and no charges/voids of charges will ever be posted to your account or bill since they are voided by your plan."

Again, Ill get to MMS sending and such when I get home in a couple hours. Dont know if that explanation helps or not, but I read him what you wrote and thats what I got.

Thanks for all the input and ideas, I do appreciate everything. :)
[HD2 General] Paradigm_Shift:
Grandfathered AT&T Data plans

Finch44:

Here is what I could quickly find...

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...smartphone-data-plans-starting-september-6th/
[HD2 General] :
HD2 Update

Well, looks like the reset to my old phone the tech did only lasted a day because I once again got the data plan text this morning. Sad news.

Paradigm - I read your link/post and might ask about the "SMART EXCLUSION” mentioned in the comments in order to avoid fees, although I read in a more recent post here on XDA (sorry, i googled it late last night and dont have the link) that they were "phasing that out internally." Thats pretty much all Ive got left up my sleeve to keep the bills down.

But as far as AT&T not recognizing Tmobs phones, I believe I put that theory to rest. Hopefully someone else finds this post and saves them the trouble of trying the same thing. Kind of creepy that AT&T knows but hey, whatever. Ill try and see if I can put MEdiaNet on as a last resort over the phone. If that fails.... then I guess tack on another 15 for the regular data plan that Ill never use. :mad: :(

I did record a video last night but I was a little pre-occupied with other things so I didnt get to post it. Ill try and do it today.
[HD2 General] lude219:
That's what I thought all along.

Sorry to hear that Finch, but there's no way around this. If you want MMS, sign up for $15 medianet plan (under your sony ericsson phone). :(
[HD2 General] :
Indeed

Yes indeed. Sadly so. Meh. Still an amazing piece of hardware. Ill prolly post something up if MEdiaNet thing doesnt work out. Until then, thanks for the help to all and hope this post finds someone who has this same question in future. Quick sum up:

AT&T will somehow nab that you have an HD2 on their network and force a data plan on you (mine was unlocked from Tmobile).

They will switch it back to your old phone if you ask and remove the data plan but it will eventually switch back in a day or two.

If your trying to set up the most current AT&T MMS settings, use the post on page 1 for it and the link on page 2 for MEdiaNet that Paradigm provided.

If you were like me and were previously on a regular (not smartphone) phone with Unlimited texting (MMS included) and werent getting data charges, you will on the HD2.

NOTE: This could also be the one and only reason they nabbed me since they never said they had my IMEI number officially. I have not tried just using the HD2 with no MMS or MEdiaNet set up/enabled (for me thats half the fun and reason of getting this phone :)). If someone else gives it a try and it works please let me know. Ive pretty much exhausted myself trying to figure this out for the last 3 or 4 days and just want to enjoy my HD2 and MMS pics on this beautiful screen.

Cheers and goodluck to everyone. :D

WooOoOOop!
[HD2 General] varungandhi:
Email not working on medianet

I bought a tmobile usa hd2 and got it unlocked. downloaded the medianet settings cab file.. internet, youtubem weather, stocks etc. seems to be working fine but my email isn't. it keeps saying synchronizing error.. any idea why? can anyone please explain how to get everything to work on my hd2. i have the pda plan with att..

thanks in advance..
[HD2 General] DrunkenTeQuila:
T-Mobile Unlocked

EVERYONE WHO BROUGHT THE T-MOBILE HTC TOUCH HD 2 AND PAID FULL PRICE FOR IT

DO NOT BUY A CODE OFF LINE CALL T-MOBILE AND REQUEST A SIM UNLOCK

THEY WILL GIVE U A FAX NUMBER TO FAX RECEIPT AND THEY WILL E-MAIL THE CODE WITHIN 24hr

FOR FREE :):):):)
[HD2 General] :
varungandhi

What email are you trying to sync? Hotmail, Outlook, Gmail? I know i had a similar problem with Outlook. Are you trying to set it up for POP3 or to Sync with your computer?

tsimms7@gmail.com -

Its funny because I did the same thing. I just called right up and asked for it 2 days before the phone came out like I said in my original posting. I feel bad for people spending 20 bucks to get an unlock code. Cheers.
[HD2 General] br4nd0nh347:
Do you have to have a T-Mobile plan?
[HD2 General] :
Mr. Kayne

I did not. The tech was a little baffled but eventually gave me after I told him how I acquired the device. Then theyll want a fax copy of the sales receipt and your good to go. Mine took 48 hours. Worth it for the price of free. Tmobile Customer Service actually surprised me alot by giving me an unlock code for a device that wasnt even released yet. If you dont get a good tech your first try, try again. :D

Good Luck

I have ATT
[HD2 General] br4nd0nh347:
Thanks for answering that. Can't wait to get mine in two weeks!
[HD2 General] mona vie:
htc hd2 unlocked mms

i put all settings in but when it asks connect via i dont see media net as a choice, where is it and how do i get it. pls help
[HD2 General] :
Both settings or just one?

Did you put the settings in for MMS settings and for MEdia Net settings? Or just one or the other? If you created MEdia Net settings correctly it should easily be selectable after you finish the setup. Let me know.
[HD2 General] AngelDeath:
This might be a slight "off-topic" but my response is to Finch44 and lude29 about the ATT unlimited plan:

Finch44: You are 100% correct in response to your unlimited msg plan, does include, txt, pix, mms, IM (Does not have to be preloaded on the phone, but cant download webpages).

lude29: You are incorrect that mms requires a data plan, you are correct that it does use data to transmit pix and mms, but you are not charged for these transmitions because you have an unlimited plan.

Now let me explain all this to both of you so that "mis-information" isnt given out, and i will explain to you how Finch44 they know about your phone.

Unlimited Msg plan means, you can do all of what I said, and does use a data connection for PIX and MMS, be it Edge, 3G, or "H", the problem is and Finch44 you MUST be deligent in this because ATT will not make you aware of this. There is a BUG in their software, and will charge you at times for sending pix and MMS thru data, this is a BUG. Sending pix and MMS does not require a data plan because the unlimited msg package already includes this fee for the transmition of Pix and MMS. This is not how they know about your phone.

How they know your phone has changed is there has been a new piece of software ATT implimented back in Sept. when they implimented (Following Verizon and T-Mobile) forcing you take a data plan with smartphones (Which in my opinion is illegal and its a stronghold tactic for more money). This piece of software transmits back the imei/esn/pn/sn/ID of the phone back to the network. Which exactly I wasnt told in my digging. You could've not sent anything, sms/mms/pix and they would have still known, the unfortunate thing is anything other Edge network you wouldnt know this. Being on the edge network as we all know being too close to a speaker causes buzzing noises thru the speakers, there are times when my phone sits by the speaker (I have a Tilt2/TP2 set to edge) and you would hear at times buzzing going on, where I would think I am getting a msg or phone call, and then it stops, this is due to the fact the network sends out a signal and waits for the phone to respond back based on your SIM card. So you could have just made a phone call and they would still know.

Now another piece of info. If you were a Smartphone Owner before Sept 6th (D-Day) and you bought another smartphone (Outside of ATT) and used it on your line, you are grandfathered from being forced to a data plan, if you upgrade thru ATT you are not grandfathered. But there is a way around this which worked for me, Finch44 if you want to avoid the Data Plan package PM me and I will explain further in detail what might work, it worked for me).

"We return you now to your regularly scheduled post, already in progress".
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eclair~:
You know when you hold down the search magnifying glass, and the voice search thingy pops up. Then you are allowed to say "navigate to", or "call whomever".. then, sadly, a little bubble comes up delaying what you wanted to do.

Well, to me, this is rather annoying - and so I wish for it for be gone. I have seen a thread similar like this comparing the feature to what the iPhone does (it doesn't delay anything) and I kinda want that for myself.. as I said before.

Personally, I think this is a stupid questions; as I don't really see how it can be done - I was thinking, though, someone had some way to delude the delay :/
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brownbay:
Are you talking about the pop-up box that displays that the N1 is processing your request?

If so, then I don't think there's much that can be done as the way Google has implemeted voice recognition on the N1, it sends all voice input to a Google server to process, and then provides you with the results.

Unless there is an app or either Cyanogen or Modoco integrate offline voice recognition into the ROM, you're stuck with Google's implementation.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul22000:
Do you want to remove the "processing" time, or remove the time between you putting your finger on the button and Voice Search coming up?

Not very clear...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eclair~:
Oh, I thought I was pretty clear, here is a pic:

I want to remove that.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] attn1:
as long as you don't mind navigating to booger thing once in a while.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigacgomez:
You can use some voice commands offline... yeah, navigation may not work... but commands like Call xyz do work...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul22000:
A) It's part of the Google Voice Search app, and you can't modify Google apps because they're closed source.

B) That box pops up so that you can see if what the app understood is what you really wanted to say. Without the pop up, it would just auto-search for whatever it understood, which might frequently be wrong. It'd basically be like clicking "I'm feeling lucky" every time.

C) When you click accept ("Go"), your voice data and the accepted search term gets sent to Google. When you hit cancel, your voice data and the declined search term gets sent to Google. In this way, they use the voice data and the incorrect / correct matches to refine their voice search. Bypassing this screen would give them no data whether the voice input transcription was correct or not.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiNJiN76:
LoL! Oh, tears out my eyes! LoL!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eclair~:
Yea I figured as such. Nevermind this thread..
[General Questions and Answers] SMS92:
Hi all,

Well I've been running GMaps 4 on my HD2 and wow - I'm almost speechless with how great this release is.

One of the best things is Buzz - I was out at the weekend taking photos at a local wildlife park and uploading them with comments in real time. Amazing stuff. (if anyone's interested, search 'sevenoaks wildlife reserve' in Maps - it's in Sevenoaks, Kent, England and check my test buzzes from my HD2)

My query: According to Google's FAQs we can buzz about stuff we're not currently in/around. I can't for the life of me work out how do to this though - say I want to buzz about something 50 miles away, how do I go about it? When I go to the location, press+hold I only get to see the suggested place, send as sms, add star, etc. no option to 'buzz'.

Can anyone help me out? I can't wait to play some more with this stuff on my HD2!

TIA
[General Questions and Answers] SMS92:
bump! .....
[S740, S743 ROM Development] CornholioGSM:
Hello ewerybody,

I need help. Can you tell me what all is needed

to make wm6.5 ROM?

I have WM 6.5 standard SDK, bud no lasdscape mode is supported :(
[S740, S743 ROM Development] Profy_X:
you will need a to port a wm 6.5 ROM from the S730 i don`t realy know it haves one but you will need a kitchen from there if it is and modify to adjust to the S740 for more information about how to do this please say it and i will give you all the informations i have :p
[S740, S743 ROM Development] CornholioGSM:
...i cannot found Wings ROM Kitchen, but i found kitchen for VOX. Is possible modifi this vox kitchen to use for Rose ?

Frauhottelmann Vox Kitchen 1.2:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=551366
[S740, S743 ROM Development] Profy_X:
Sorry for the late here you have the links to some tutorials hope that helps i wanted to cook a rom to but ain`t got time right now..good luck and keep us with the news how does the job goes :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=406721#4

PS:this is for the elf but the basic things are the same :p
[S740, S743 ROM Development] frauhottelmann:
You have to use G'Reloc and change the values to the original Rose values, since my kitchen uses the Vox' values, where the ROM is only so small...
[S740, S743 ROM Development] CornholioGSM:
okay, i test this :

I extract with dutty's NBH Tool original Orange_UK_1.17.61.2 ROM to .nb files.

Then i compile back .nb file to .nbh. I select only OS (windows.nb) and set:

Device:ROSE100

CID Type: SuperCID

Version : 2.00.0

Language: WWE

Signature Size 128

Generated .nbh file has approx 102MB.

I make upgrade to my rose. Upgrading was with no problems.

Bud when rose boots show only Orange splash screen, then version and then restart and restart and restart !!!

I'm really unhappy :(
[S740, S743 ROM Development] Profy_X:
i think you should another kitchen like HTC Snap that got a 256 mb ROM and modify it so it should adjust to the rose i don`t know how to do those things but you should realy modify the screen to be portrait and landscape :D

PS:with the rom from wings i think it will never work so try modify a snap rom
[S740, S743 ROM Development] Elusivo:
how do we obtain the values to use on g.reloc?
[S740, S743 ROM Development] CornholioGSM:
okay, restart problem is fixed...

I use another tool to compile nbh and set the values to

ModelId=ROSE10000

Signature Size=64

Version : 2.00.0

Language: 0409

...and it works :)

...i continue with cooking rom :)
[S740, S743 ROM Development] sasiskas:
so now you have a working wm6.5 rom?
[S740, S743 ROM Development] CornholioGSM:
no, no...i test this on original shipped rom.
[S740, S743 ROM Development] frauhottelmann:
You get the G'Reloc values by unpacking a original ROM and putting the SYS and OEM files in the respective folder and open G'Reloc. I can do that for you.

Here are the values:

Slot 0: 01FA0000

Slot 1: 03E40000

Size of ROM: 83400000

Unknown: 00000000
[S740, S743 ROM Development] Semmelknoedel:
Hi CornholioGSM,

Don't give up! We all are waiting for the first 6.5 ROM...

What kitchen do you use? And why from Wing? Is a tutorial available? Could you please tell us more details? Maybe we can help you cooking a ROM.

Sorry fo lots of questions :-) I'm a newbie.

CU

Semmelknoedel

P.S. How can I backup my existing ROM? It is a original Swisscom ROM without any restrictions. I want upload it in S740 ROM-Thread.
[S740, S743 ROM Development] CornholioGSM:
You get the G'Reloc values by unpacking a original ROM and putting the SYS and OEM files in the respective folder and open G'Reloc. I can do that for you.

Here are the values:

Slot 0: 01FA0000

Slot 1: 03E40000

Size of ROM: 83400000

Unknown: 00000000

thanks frauhottelmann :)
[S740, S743 ROM Development] frauhottelmann:
When I am back home, I can make a WM 6.5 test ROM for you guys and upload it for you to try. Sometime next week. I can't promise anything though without an actual device.

BTW: You also have to port the XIP to get 6.5 working.