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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
A couple of days ago I decided to update to the latest ROM and just give Sense 2.5 a try...

After installing it, I kinda noticed that my TP2 was really slow and I also exprienced a lot of SOD's! And I'm not saying anything about the battery! ;)

That's not what I was used to notice on my TP2 so it was time for a change!

After some research I came across a comment on Tweakers.net's HTC TP2 Topic from someone how tried the following and it turns out to work out for him.. So I tried the same....

1. Updating HardSPL

2. Format using Task29

3. Updating the original HTC rom

4. Hard reset

5. Formating my 4 gb SD-Card

After doing this I must say that my phone is much faster! It also feels much stable then the first couple of days.

So I don't know, but if you experience the same problems you might give that a try as well!

Just wanted to share this! ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Allen Mead:
It definitely requires a Task29 format before use. Pretty crap really. Although, I am still running it. There are a load of registry hacks that I have had to do to get it to run quite well. Am reasonably happy with it at the moment.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdemon:
Just got my TP2 today and it came from HTC with the latest Rom installed. Phone is real responsive and no SOD as of yet. Have done a lot of playing today. So far so good.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
Now you make me curious! Which Reg hacks are you using?? :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ridolfo:
I don't think responsiveness has ever been a real issue. It was more the lack of free RAM, the ultra-slow messaging application, and the SOD's (which you luckily do not suffer from).

Just for the record: what is the ROM version you have now; is it the exact same version as the official one from the HTC site?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bugmenever:
In general I was very happy with the new software as compare to the old Win 6.5 update.. though it just sucks that it is still buggy and slower.

Before my alarm did not work, that works now. But he, new software, new bugs! Indeed Facebooks albums never worked. I've also found a cute way to crash your Phone when you're in the mood. In your contact favorites, add a number from a particular contact. Then, in another block, try to add another number from that same contact. You're phone will block completely :p

[/fun]

Okay but what strikes me the most are two things:

- Sometimes it just goes black. Out of nowhere. While it's doing nothing. And nothing. It seems to be running but can't seem to do anything about it. This sucks very badly.

- In general, sometimes it's just a tad slow. I don't know why exactly. One time I pick it up and it runs quite smoothly, the other time it stutters badly (and no I don't have programs running in the background)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] demandarin:
i have a quick question? im with at&t. if i were to go to the service/product store, dont they have to flash my rom to the most current one, no charge? i have the wm 6.5 with TF3D. very fast n slick, at least for me..lol only sense ui i have is on my xdandroid port.the sense 2.1 on android. do u know whats the differences between the wm sense 2.5 and Android sense? is either one better thn the other? i was just curios and contimplating going to at&t store to Demand my rom be flashed or upgraded with the new sense 6.5. thats just until i start flashing my own roms, very soon. thnkx in advance on any insight to this. that android port has had me sidetracked since i came across it..lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
I think I'm going to take back what I said earlier!!

While I was driving in the car today I got a call from my wife so I wanted to answer that using the speakers. That's when I noticed a really strange thing; I could hear my wive speaking but she couldn't hear me at all!

She hang up and tried a couple of other times but still the same.

When I finally decided to do a soft rest I was able to talk to her... Strange right?! :confused:

Anyone experiencing the same thing??? Or perhaps a way to solve this?!

PS: This also happened when another person tried to call me today....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] demandarin:
the only time i had that happen was when I downloaded the HD Tweak program. Other similar Tweak programs might reproduce same results. Its when u go changing the audio on the tweak programs, trying to make it louder or whatever. My audio went out completely..lmfao..i had a situation like urs also where the person couldnt hear me or vice versa. I juss put the settings back like it was and juss made not to go trying to mod my audio thru the tweaks. :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
Hmm... I see.. Well, to be honest the only tweaking program I've installed on my TP2 is BSB Tweaker. This one is originally meant for HD2 but works on TP2 as well.

However this doesn't include any audio tweaks.. Anyway, maybe I should uninstall BSB tweaker and see how the phone reacts when not having this installed!

In the meantime.... Any other suggestions? ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mhurg:
Happens to me all the time, even when freshly flashed, very often. It's been bugging me ALOT and now I have sent a complaint to HTC for the 3rd time telling them I want my money back. To top it all, it seems like it ALSO happens if you move your phone around while using the speakerphones. Happened to me last night.

Again, I have never used HD Tweak, or any other audio tweak, so that is not the culprit. It even happened 1 hr after I got my TP2 back from repair and even when I flashed it again after that. It's definately the ROM.

The only thing you CAN do is downgrading to the 2.1 ROM. Sorry.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
That's what I was afraid off.... That means that I can't use Co0kie's Home Tab anymore! That's actually the only reason I to upgrade to the new ROM! :rolleyes:

Well, I'm going to give it another try today...If that doesn't work I'm definitely going to downgrade to the 2.1 ROM.... :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mhurg:
Haha, yes indeed Cookie's Home Tab is awesome. Thing with the speaker issue is that some days it's ok, others it's crap. Many don't use that function very often but for me it was one of the main reasons why I bought the TP2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdemon:
Yes it is the exact same version. I think the main issue here is leftover parts in the flashmemory when flashing a new rom. Mine came from the factory with the new Rom so no left over debris as you would call it. Still no SOD untill now.

There are claims that when erasing all with Task29 you should be ok. Even though this should not be needed when flashing an original rom from HTC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] demandarin:
this sounds like a major prob. yall havin..dayumm... u makin it seem like everyday or every other day ur sound goes out. i woulda been thrown the phone against the wall if dats the case..lmfao and then tell warranty people i lost it...lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
Yesterday I double checked the BSB Tweaks settings and there was one setting called: "Video Bitrate - Improves Video Recording in MPEG4". I had enabled this function but I turned it off yesterday.

By doing this I was able to use the speaker today without any problems! Strange but true... :confused:

That's what I thought too, but I believe that running Task29 prior to upgrading is kinda necessary.. :s

Believe me.... It's really frustrating when you want to talk and the other person can't hear you and that's what I wanted to do too (throwing my phone against something!!) ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] demandarin:
so you fixed it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
To be honest... I don't know what to think... I hope so!

However I'm going to see if it stays this way for the next couple of days...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bugmenever:
These "Black screen of death" are really starting to piss me of! It's so annoying! Just out of nowhere when the screen usually turns black because of energy saving purposes it just stays black and won't respond anymore. It doesn't happen all the time but when it does it's of course very annoying! :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] reflecs:
Same here. If you turn off the speaker and then turn it back on it works also. HTC Should realy work on a solution otherwise it could have been my last HTC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mhurg:
It happened EVERY day in some way or another, sometimes speakerphone died, sometimes I couldn't be heard in the regular microphone and sometimes I couldn't get any sound at all from the device, be it music, ringtone, call or movie.

Now I've complained and will get a Desire + two 32 GB SD cards instead. Works for me.

Finally I'd like to ask you: Why do you shorten words and leave some out only to make the effort redundant by adding inane words like "dayumm"? I don't mean to offend you by asking, it just seems stupid to me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
WOW! Sweet! Thanks Allen!

Going to try them out, however I did make a mistake..... Somehow I renamed some registry key to "e".... Now I'm looking for the old name..

It's located in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCMenus

Anyone care to make a screenshot of what you see on in that folder?

Would be a great help to me!

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AGY:
So far no SOD after a week! keep my fingers crossed!! but I do have the same problem with the speaker !! the only solution that seems to work is turnning on and off the speaker:mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AGY:
I hope this help you! I don't know how to take a picture of the full screen in one shot!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AGY:
I think I spoke too soon :( I don't have SOD yet but I do have a bug I think

the Battery & Backligth setting (POWER) screen is showing up quit often without me touching the screen or when I using an application any ideas?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
Have had this a couple of times before I installed HardSPL & formated with Task29.. Have you tried that too?

Hmm, haven't tried it yet! Perhaps this is a nice work around! :)

NICE! In the mean time I've adjusted the registry tweaks and I don't know.. it FEELS like it's working smoother but not sure if this is just a feeling or it actually is!? :D

However I even love that feeling with the new ROM! :D

Well, this does help me A LOT!! THANKS A MILLION!

I had renamed the DisplayDelayTime registry but now I got it fixed thanks to you! :)

Hmm.... Haven't got some issues yet... So the screen suddenly lights up if you even do anything?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AGY:
Quote:

Originally Posted by AGY

I hope this help you! I don't know how to take a picture of the full screen in one shot!

Well, this does help me A LOT!! THANKS A MILLION!

I had renamed the DisplayDelayTime registry but now I got it fixed thanks to you!

No problem glad it helped!! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGY

I think I spoke too soon I don't have SOD yet but I do have a bug I think

the Battery & Backligth setting (POWER) screen is showing up quit often without me touching the screen or when I using an application any ideas?

Thanks

Hmm.... Haven't got some issues yet... So the screen suddenly lights up if you even do anything?

No.... the power screen under settings/allsettings/system/power pops up I just need to use the x botton to close it

what happend is when I am using either the slider or if I am in any application i.e. mail, the power setting pops-up suddenly without me activating it! it is anoying me know!:mad: I don't know if this is normal or if is another bug in this room?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bigjezza:
Awesome, thanks for pointing me in the direction of a fix that not even HTC could achieve... Should be put in the wiki or pinned or something! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
I would say: A bug! I have something similar.. Mine sometimes opens ActiveSync...

I also experienced that I couldn't wake my device from sleep today. I had to get out the battery in order to get it working..

This ROM is a bit buggy, however I don't know if I'm going to downgrade to my old ROM... I mean Coockies Home is just great and I can't live without it! :D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Allen Mead:
I'm now starting to get to the point where I have had enough of this ROM now. I now have issues with the Radio, when I go through a bad signal patch, the radio dosn't keep searching for a signal, nope, I just get an exclamation mark, it's as if I have turned it off. Only way to get it sorted is to turn it off and back on again. Also changed Radios to see if that made a difference, but no.

However, I think it may be to do with CleanRAM. Have hard reset the phone for the 1000th time, just gonna run it with nothing on it and see what happens......
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AGY:
Same thing this morning:( luckily I woke up this morning a few minutes before my alaram! surprise my alarm did not sound.:confused: check my phone and SOD!!! :mad: I am going back to my 6.5 with sense 2.1 I think I have enough
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Labarum:
News article on ppcgeeks about the SOD 5/14/10

http://www.ppcgeeks.com/2010/05/14/sprint-verizon-touch-pro-2-wm6-5-causes-sleep-of-death/

I am looking for a voicemail fix... my voicemail icon comes on after every soft/hard reset... very annoying and yes I did take the plunge and do a task29... my wife's TP2 running same rom flashed from the same computer... no bug???

My bet is on the cause of the sleep of death is the phone runs out of ram... thus locking it up in hibernation mode... most people seem to be reporting that this happens with the social updates on... HTC messaging client is also been the cause of this too... loads of leaking ram...

I think running clean ram on a set schedule prevents this...

Thoughts? Results?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chazco:
I've found a possible solution for the issue with the microphone being muted when the speakerphone is enabled.

All you need to do is go to Home->Settings->Menu->All Settings->Personal->Phone->Advanced and change "Reduce noise in phone calls" to "Never".

Can anyone else confirm if this works for them?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] reflecs:
I'll test it for a week. Thanx for sharing!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Allen Mead:
Never had this microphone issue yet but then that's probably because I've always set it to never reduce noise in phone calls.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chazco:
No problem, hope it works. :)

Interesting, that lends some support to this fix.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mhurg:
After having been serviced two times for software issues which HTC claimed to be HW issues, I finally had enough and demanded my money back... which I got. Luckily I ordered the TP 2 when it still cost a lot, so for the same amount I got a Desire and two 32 GB SD cards:) I'm happy again!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Allen Mead:
Have carried out a little more experimenting with this ROM and it woud seem that changing Radios is quite a good option certainly from a resources point of view.

I have changed mine to a vodafone 4.49.25.17 which you can find here Now you may perceive this as a backwards step, maybe it is, however, I do seem to have more available ram than before and, editing contacts through Sense 2.5 is quicker, most notibly when tapping the 'Done' soft key. It's not instant, but it is on par with Sense 2.1 which was always way quicker than 2.5. Of course, this could well be a placebo effect but time will tell. If you choose to use this radio, do so at your own risk, you have been warned! (No, it won't over write your ROM, for those that don't know, if you don't know, then the question begs, what are you doing with this?)

I do have a couple of other issues which as far as I am aware are ROM and NOT Radio related. Essentially, I have to press either the hardware or soft key twice to come out of call history (only when viewing missed calls through notification manager)

and,

When my BT headset is connected, (Plantronics Voyager Pro) after dialing a second number, the softkeys in the dialer fail to make any sound when pressed, not even through the headset, but are fine when disconnected. Minor but annoying!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] reflecs:
Turning off noise reduction works! Tnx for solving that one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pietsukkel:
I don't know if it's the same for other people too, but I'm able to reproduce the SOD here.

When I enable a clock alarm (so no Calender reminder, but an alarm through the clock application) and I press the power button afterwards, I cannot turn the device on again. I have to remove the back cover and perform a softreset. It's consistent behavior and I hope to fix it soon by re-flashing after using task29.

Kind regards,

Piet

Update: Never mind, task29 can only be used after installing the hard-SPL. I will not do that since my Pro2 is still in warranty. I performed a hard-reset and reinstalled everything. Setting an alarm works now without a freeze.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chazco:
Great news :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] whatdoesitwant:
I think it's memory leakage as well, but cleanram didn't work for me. So I'm guessing the memory leakage issue is with core apps, either sense or the text messaging service. Afaik, these are always on.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bugmenever:
Mmm.. don't know these tools, but I'll have a look at them. Would be great if that really helps, because this is really annoying. Thanks for the info!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
Yeah indeed!! Works like a charm!!

In the mean time I haven't had any SOD's anymore.... Perhaps due to cool registry hacks which can be found on Page 5? Well, it works fine again!! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdemon:
Just a small update from me. I get SOD's now as well. Even though mine came with the new Rom straight from HTC.

I also have issues when connected to the Parrot CK3100 in the car. Even with the latest firmware in the Parrot. The phone gets real slow and it takes more then a minute from selecting the contact to call to eventually getting the dialtone. Also in about 50% of the times when I answer the phone will go in phone mode and not handsfree mode even though the icon says it is connected to the handsfree.

And on the hardware side there seems to be a problem in the area of the frontfacing camera. It appears as though the back plate has come loose from the frontassembly.

Will take it back as this thing is 2,5 months old and it is not working for me anymore.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sdemon:
Was at the KPN Business centre today and they can not fix it. They told me to send it back to HTC.

After leaving there I called HTC and they told me to revert back to the old rom of November as they are aware of the problems.

As far as the compatibility with the Parrot they told that they are working on a solution but it might be a while before the update is available.

All in all I am getting pretty upset about this whole ordeal. Any good advice?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toolmaker:
I've had the same thing happen to me. When I use an older ROM version(initial WM6.5 release), my GPS unit doesn't work. When I used the most recent ROM, I get SODs and I'm not even sure whether or not I trust all text messages being properly received, even with the official SMS fix applied.

HTC did a pretty good job screwing up with this ROM version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jackos:
You're got a T-mobile Rhodium?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toolmaker:
Nope, I have a stock Touch Pro 2. My provider is Hi!(Which is a sub-brand name of Dutch telco KPN targetting the youth) and I'm using the default ROM which can be pulled from the HTC Support site.

Why?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jackos:
A lot of ppl with T-mobile version have GPS problems with WM6.1...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] VIP_82:
Anyone noticed that is missing the menu (reply, delete, ignore) on the pop-up of incoming sms? For me that is a big weakness...

...in my TP2 with the new 6.5 ROM I can assign a function only to the first button on the left... strange... Any suggestion?

P.S.

Is there a way to disable the "sms sent notification"? I changed the registry but doesn't work...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Commdr64:
Yes, I noticed that immediately. Very annoying. Also would like to see a way to turn off the sms sent notification
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] VIP_82:
I've found this cab, it seems the only one which disables the notification!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Commdr64:
That did the trick, thanks very much!

Now, if there was only a way to get a "Reply" button back on the SMS notifications.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drew37:
Worked for me....WM6.5, Sense 2.5 (2011)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] XATAGuy:
I would like to switch back

Hi,

I have given this a chance, but I'm not happy with it and would like to switch back to my old ROM which was: 1.59.502.3 (67150) WWE 09/25/09.

Can anyone please tell me where I can find this?

Thanks,

Dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GSLEON3:
Do Not Do this... Firstly the absolute limit for Glyphcache is hard coded at 73728 & you will just as good results at 32768 or 16384.

Secondly, I knwo the flood of cheap smart phones has led to an influx of new users, which can be good... More minds means per capita more great ideas I hope, but do not ever use a filter cache setting so high. Not even on your PC... The fsreplxfilt dynamic library deals in file quantities, not kB. You will actually slow your device down if you try to cachce that many files. With this rom, leaving it off is a smart play. otherwise a rough rule is to use a number approx double that of your file System cache, but I would neve exceed 4096 or at the most 8192.

I highly suggest new people treat this forum as a book. Start at the begining & learn what's what. Blue Angel device is where a ton of work originated, also the Himi.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jackos:
Here is a patch for this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=826396
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] narkewoody:
Hi,

I want to find a fast ROM for my gear (Sapphire 32A, HTC Magic). I am not sure if an English version of ROM suitable to work with Chinese applications, especially Chinese Input Method?

Thanks.

narke
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ronni.rasmussen:
They should be as long as you got the HTC_CIME i think is the name of the chinese one.

Anyway, the real question is: Are the Chinese applications suitable for english version ROM :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] narkewoody:
What is HTC_CIME? Is it a specific ROM version? And, could you tell me how can I find out what version of ROM is on my phone?

Thanks.

-

narke
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ronni.rasmussen:
HTC_CIME is HTC chinese input method editor (or something like that :)) it exist as HTC_CIME.apk

So try to search but HTC_CIME.apk around the forum, not sure all roms will work with this if not i bet there is an default android CIME. But read several places that this is working on some of the no-sense roms released here on xda.

Since i'm not Chinese or even know the language i never had any use for it so don't know much about it either. Don't flame me if i'm wrong, just trying to help giving you some words there might help you in your search for a solution :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] narkewoody:
Thank you anyway. But you still not tell that how do I know what is the version of ROM currently running on my phone? For example, you know yours is "CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1".