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[TG01 ROM Development] Hamido123:
the best thing would be if there are two kind of rom....

one fully equiped and one clean rom....

the fully equiped rom should have sense and other htc apps and some little tweaks like 1ghz or hd2 driver patch...also we have to focus the ram usage and the free memory....i think that are the major things..

the clear version have to be very very fast and with a lot of free ram!!!

also i think we could remove all unusefull toshiba stuff like wifi-app or the stripes menu....no one uses these apps!!!
[TG01 ROM Development] serialkillazzs:
20% lbattery imitation needs totally scapped i agree there
[TG01 ROM Development] a_petrov303:
there are still problems in connection to pre-2005 BMW Bluetooth ULF - car kit :(
[TG01 ROM Development] a_petrov303:
+bluetooth cannot be started if the battery is under 20%
[TG01 ROM Development] (InsertNameHere):
Test device, Paid and complete, so um, you have a device, why no rom yet? Unless you don't have a device, in which case, you have been paid and do not have a device, no?
[TG01 ROM Development] mfkiwl:
be patient
[TG01 ROM Development] adzman808:
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POSTED IN 2 THREADS COS I'M NOT SURE THE FIRST ONE WAS THE CORRECT ONE!

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it would be amazing if we could have a clean, brand free ROM from which to build our personal apps & settings.

i can see the benefits of many different things people are asking, but we all want so much & we all want different things

so if at all possible it would surely be best all round if the first ROM to be produced was pretty much the same as the latest toshiba release, but with zero branding & pre-installed apps & as much RAM & capacity left free as possible

please don't think i want to dampen the enthusiasm of those of you skilled & knowledgable enough to make these ROMs a reality, nor am i trying to be scornful to those of you who have made specific requests for widgets, features & applications

the ROM idea pretty much started out of the call quality issue, that was kinda our hook 'which cook was gordon ramsey (man) enough to fix the flawed genius of the TG'

well sorry but that cook works for Toshiba - the sound is fixed

so now rather than a problem we want fixed, we want a blank canvass of a ROM to make our own

basic noob's like me want a stripped out device with no clutter

you gamers want rotation & motion senors

you htc-afficcionados want your fav htc features

but we can't all have everything unless we all get the same template of a ROM to begin our own journeys into customization

also... well... i guess the cooks are used to it.... but it can't be a big motivation to hurry up having dozens of people all asking for different things...

cheers
[TG01 ROM Development] a_petrov303:
+1000 well said, totally agree!
[TG01 ROM Development] kevinpwhite:
Adam, Cooks,

Perfectly said. Absolutely in agreement.

I also think would fit well with the fundamental tenet of software development - baby steps - test every step and validate with the client before moving on. Is only a modern variation of the carpenters' dit about 'measure twice and cut once' from the dawn of time, but all the more true for that.

A start point 'vanilla' stripped down ROM, preferably with some step by step instructins for the uninitiated among us to learn and build from would be the perfect start point.

Really hope that the clear experts here can help with that ?
[TG01 ROM Development] Pere:
I agree as well. Only add that we need as a start point a Clean ROM but not only without the typical brand trash, also the stupid Toshiba limitations (20% battery and so on).

Come on!
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
I think that UI and usability are important as well as a Windows mobile upgrade.I hope there'll be two roms, one with htc UI And one without.So everybody would be happy :) .
[TG01 ROM Development] pipolas:
Same here...

but, we have to wait for the moment...

but, if i understood correctly, l3v5y has a 6.5.5 rom on his tg01, no?
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
Yes, but he says there lots of bugs his trying to kill before releaseing it.
[TG01 ROM Development] pipolas:
allright...i hope he's gonna to release it soon!

All the people who are working on this project are doing a fantastic job...

BRAVO!

Thanks!!
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
Any news? :)
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
IDk,

I havent talked to him for 4 days now.

Hay guys... follow me on twitter WMPerson to stay updated.
[TG01 ROM Development] coolkat:
i think this is more approriate twitter link: http://twitter.com/l3v5y
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
Yes, that also.... but I will be the one releasing the ROM... he will just twit about the progress, and his activities at home.
[TG01 ROM Development] coolkat:
oops my mistake.. i thought you are also like us.. waiting for the ROM. didnot know that you'r involved in cooking/releasing
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
ya, its cool
[TG01 ROM Development] l3v5y:
I'm currently attempting to build a kitchen from which the ROMs can be built.

So far, I've managed to dump and rebuild the stock ROM, and now am attempting a flash with 23554... :)
[TG01 ROM Development] souljaboy:
good luck on that

if i can request , please dont delete the arcsoft photobase from the rom as its the best picture program ive used , and file associations also work well with it

and i cant find it anywhere else seperately
[TG01 ROM Development] Szakalabombas:
The ArcSoft PhotoBase, is PowerMobia® brand now.

Look this: http://www.arcsoft.com/en-us/mobile_applications.asp?id=MOBILE_0#
[TG01 ROM Development] cedesmith:
uff.

maybe i am wrong, maybe i am just stressed, maybe i am tired, maybe i am too anxious.

but... didn't you announced on twitter 5 days ago that you have 6.5.5 ? didn't wen said that you sorting out bugs ?

how come you guys are always last to finish ?

when wen started to rise donation upfront ppl on this forum credited him and his team with knowledge and will to do something for us.

then:

why did i have to write tgtool

why did Da Mafia and Novembre5 had to be the 1st to test moded roms

why did arag0n85 had to make 1st cocked rom

why?

you suppose to be the ones that know what are you doing and also got something from it upfront. we are just guessing and struggling.

you are just holding us back as nobody did anything last 5 days because was expecting for your 6.5.5 ROM even with bugs.i did not start on tgtool for weeks because i was waiting for wen's "experts".

i am sad and bitter as we received more help from ppl that had nothing to do with this then from you guys. i feel you guys hold any piece of info for yourself and don't share just to present it on wen's site and draw some revenue from banners/ads.

but when 6.5.5 on TG's Wen will proudly present on his site a 3 byte modified version as WMPowderRom or something, you will still have your donated phone and we would still have done it ourselves..... so

come on... now you have rebuilded original rom when 5 days ago u had 6.5.5...... ?

but hey maybe i am tiered or stressed or wrong .....
[TG01 ROM Development] strike-down:
cedesmith, l3v5y is creating a kitchen and I think he was referring to integrating your tgtool into the kitchen and getting it to run all the commands necessary to build the rom without needing to go into cmd. Kitchens make life a lot easier for rom customization to tailor the roms to our specific needs, so really he is doing us a service and not just making a rom.

EDIT: maybe im wrong and have misinterpretted/missed a bit of information, but thats what I gathered from it
[TG01 ROM Development] elder T:
Different hardwares (phones) takes different approaches to produce good working custom rom.

I guess is like your TGTools needs to be written from scratch, so does cooking a working WM6.5.5 rom and Kitchen for the Toshiba TG01.

Not a easy task.:D

Thank you for the reply about the warranty issue too.
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
Well let me say one thing that you for SURE have Wrong....

I do not own WMPoweruser.... I work for the site. I do not get anything out of this, like I have said before.

We dont think anyone should be upset by this good news, which is something all TG01 owners have been waiting for

While we may not have created the first ROM, we like to think WMPU's commitment to the project helped catalyse the actual removal of the roadblocks to doing so

We can also clearly say we had no financial motives

WMPoweruser: the TG-1 community is small, and we acted out of desire to help,

I thought you wrote the TGtool to help, but I do not know.

Haveing the first is important but having the best is essential....

Well to be fair, his ROM usues the same XIP or whatever(I dont know those things... I do not make ROMs), while I3v5y is making an actual updated 6.5.5 ROM.

And ROMs that are released as WMPoweruser ROMs are more of a "Here you go, a free ROM. We worked hard on it, and think its worth flashing" Because when choosing from all these ROMs... it becomes hard, and thats why we do it. Not for money, not for fame, just to help. And devices that are released under our name become a little more popular... I mean in 2 months our 4 or 5 ROMs already have 1/2 Terrabite of downloads. So, I do not know.

I am sorry you are feeling this way. I do not know anything else to say.
[TG01 ROM Development] bib*oops:
cedesmith & wen

No heart feelings, let's put things together to get the best ROM we can get for our tgs, this is what matters in the end...(my opinion).
[TG01 ROM Development] Da Mafia:
I think this is where cedesmith has a problem.

The date that was posted is 25th March 2010, 10:52 PM

What cedesmith is getting at, is that everybody took a break as l3v5y was releasing something soon, but nothing happened. If there was any problems, bugs or just wanted to release a better package then he should of let everybody know, instead of leaving people waiting.
[TG01 ROM Development] bib*oops:
You're right, but things are not getting better this way...
[TG01 ROM Development] Da Mafia:
I agree, but I can see why cedesmith feels like he does.
[TG01 ROM Development] bib*oops:
Totally agree...
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
That is what I want also.

Well yes, I think that didnt make it anything better.
[TG01 ROM Development] cedesmith:
what i meant is that 5 days ago l3v5y put on his tweet that has loaded a 6.5.5 on his phone. yesterday he said that is just at rebuilding a original rom and just starting on 6.5.5.

for that that don't understand i think that means 7 days or more ago.

of course i did it to help but would expect the same. i expected you and l3v5y and maybe others to help create a kitchen so who want could create his own rom. ppl will not just be happy with 2 roms from l4v5y.

i think and hope not offend anyone that we(who did something) are just rookies struggling to get something done. l3v5y is much more experienced but he is not sharing anything with us. is this just that you could have 1st released rom ?

i think that arag0n85(and he can tell me if i am wrong) did his rom just to have something to toy with for couple of days till l3v5y rom is released.

we all knew that 6.5.5 is almost done and now we find out it is still at very beginning.
[TG01 ROM Development] arag0n85:
well' its not completely correct. I also think that a step for better roms is to get a clean one to use a base. Its much better to deal problems and bugs if your roms have as much dropped as you can. Also many people was asking for just a debranded one.

2 days ago I found how I might be able to do this and after testing the method by volunteers, I worked on something. Now Im looking for a way to delete the strips menu and toshiba keyboard.

After that I think that I know how to get sense working with a flashed rom.

And yes, we are all rookies, that's why we would like to see l3n5y releasing what he has (kitchen, rom or procedure guide), to share it with everyone that s working too. I never ported a xip, I never used a kitchen, I never edited a ROM, and here I am. Sharing every step I learn about cooking and our tg01 to others.
[TG01 ROM Development] l3v5y:
Perhaps I should be clearer.

I had built a WM6.5.5 ROM for the TG01, by manually relocating the XIP, and cheating with the SYS (relocating it for an HD2 XIP and then fixing up any issues with that manually). I bloody hate hex editors, and I think for releasing a kitchen, most people would use it as it's easy, not to spend an evening patching where our tools can't.

What I've done now, is make a set of scripts using a set of tools (including cedesmiths TGTool, without which nothing for the TG01 would work) which should hopefully automate this. This isn't perfect, and the 23554 ROM I was working on yesterday was the first ROM built on that kitchen. It didn't boot until about the 10th build, and I had to remove virtually everything before the automatic module relocation would work. What's odd, is that a rebuild of the stock ROM using my tools works fine (even with modules messed around).

My school term ends tomorrow, at which point I'll have more time to work on this.

When my kitchen works properly, I'll be working on a good, stable WMPU ROM, but I'm also going to release a kitchen for building "light" ROMs (like my Diamond kitchen). I have already built a ROM that doesn't have the Toshiba stripes, though I didn't manage to remove all the relevant files, so it's not ideal.

Sorry if I've annoyed anyone, or confused you with my progress, but because the TG01 uses a different virtual memory layout to HTC devices, it's more difficult to do well.

EDIT:

I will try adding Sense and things to the stock 21876 ROM and see if that boots. If that works well, I will make it as stable as I can and release it.

EDIT2:

I'm also working on ImageUpdate, I've had some success flashing a new SYS on my HD2, but it's not very reliable. If I can get it to work well, TG01 users will be the first to be able to use it. :)
[TG01 ROM Development] useyourfist:
good to hear some update im eagerly waiting. and personally i think everyone is trying to help for the sake of helping and some things may get lost in translation neway everone keep up the good work.
[TG01 ROM Development] cedesmith:
@l3v5y

so i was wrong :D. i misunderstood.

i don't have time to spent on ROMs as i am very late with work project but I and probably others would like to learn stuff. i think most of us (intrested on making roms for tg01) are new to this but willing to learn. i look to you as a experienced developer that could help and i find it frustrating you don't.

i mean this forum is huge Da_G's thread is 1441 pages long and there are a lot of useful threads. is like finding the needle in the haystack. you could help so much by just pointing us in the right direction.

as i see it we don't have roms yet because we don't have a developer community, only experienced developer for tg01 is you. but we are building that and every one involved into this learn something from every baby step.

I for one and noticed and other too read the forum and answer where i have a bit of knowledge. i would liked very much if you would do the same as you could offer this community a lot more then a rom.

p.s. sorry if i offended anyone, i catch fire very fast since i quit smoking (again)
[TG01 ROM Development] elder T:
`ImageUpdate` is a very interesting feature, I think is you don`t need to flash the whole rom to do update? am I right?
[TG01 ROM Development] serialkillazzs:
Happy easter

:)happy easter everyone:)

easter might bring a nice golden egg for tg01

holidays is time for rest

but

patience is still a virtue
[TG01 ROM Development] l3v5y:
That's right. You also get the ability to update the SYS/XIP/OEM without loosing any data. The TG01 does do ImageUpdate (I've managed to get a few test packages installed) but it's not entirely reliable, and building a full cab.pks is really not reliable.
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
Great news :D, will you work in adding these things in your cooked 6.5.5 too or only in stock last rom?Please don't forget adding multi-language support in your roms and see if it's possible erase the 20% limit and other bugs we found.:)
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
I am very happy this was all resolved with everyone.

Again, Sorry I myself cannot help. I do not know how to make ROMs or Programming(which made me miss a chance to work with SPB :( ).

Again maybe when a great ROM is release ill butter everyone up to get a TG01 and make the community bigger.

People do not really know much about the TG01. I am sure more people will want it if they know it has cooked ROMs. I would want it(except the K01 kinda has my heart in lockdown).

People love 1Ghz and resistive... and the TG01 has both that and a big screen.

I hope you guys get your ROM soon. I wont be here any longer, so the real developers can get the work done.

Bye

Wen

P.S if you guys need something you can tweet me or PM me.
[TG01 ROM Development] mtwaldman:
Thanks to All Involved :)

I just wanted to thank everyone who is involved in creating a custom ROM for the TG01.

I am excited to see the results.
[TG01 ROM Development] Buck_Rodgers:
l3v5y

keep going man, i can assure you you're work is much appreciated by fellow users of the TG01. please don't let any ungratefuls (i name no names honestly) put you off as they do not speak for the rest of us!

I hope you still continue your work (completely selfishly to be honest) as i would like your efforts to open this device up and get some custom roms on the go without much unnecessary guff.

Thanks

Dan
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
l3v5y, I read your last tweet with the error's picture.Must we worry about this? :confused:
[TG01 ROM Development] strike-down:
any update on how the rom/kitchen is going?
[TG01 ROM Development] mtwaldman:
Status?

I saw the kitchen is up any news on the Rom?
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
I want 6.5.5 with last htc sense for my tg01 :( .You disappeared :(
[TG01 ROM Development] qasi:
personally i think that these changes should be made for the new rom:

1. htc keyboard and volume

2. bring back the HTC start up logo

3. fix the buggys for the sms

4. landscape mode

5. take out the reader, recent doc tabs (genrate mor memory)

6. bluetooth tab not working

7. making the gps work on its own

8. sort out the alarm and the vibaration (so that you can play the tone and thr vibaration at the same time)

9. G-sensor

sorry for too many recommendations

but i think this would make a great new rom which will make all TG01 users happy

anyways you guys a doing a create job!!!!

keep up with the great work

thanks in advance
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
10. 20% battery limit removed

11. Multilanguage support

:rolleyes:
[TG01 ROM Development] souljaboy:
im not longer for the sense support ... eats too much ram of the little ~80 free we have , htc messanging is a biatch and the catching of clicks on the taskbar makes me wanna strangle a cat
[TG01 ROM Development] (InsertNameHere):
A plain, good build of 6.5.3 or 6.5.5 would be enough, with the radio from the current latest 6.5 rom if necessery, and whatever drivers are needed to get all hardware working, thats all thats needed, users can install whatever tools they need on top of that foundation surely
[TG01 ROM Development] ouatitw:
Count me in - that would be a good base rom to start from......
[TG01 ROM Development] a_petrov303:
+1 we need a good clean ROM first
[TG01 ROM Development] Pere:
I agree, it's the best first step
[TG01 ROM Development] qasi:
this would be a good place to start from!!!

+1 great stuff guys

thanks in advance
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
Another day with no news :( .
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
Like I said, I was leaving, but since it seemed you guys wanted an update. I would say, just PM I3v5y and bug him... :D that'll give you the updates.
[TG01 ROM Development] souljaboy:
only 1 guy pm him cuz if all pm him , he'll get mad :rolleyes:
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
Hi wen, we wrote to him a pm 3 days ago and no answer till now.
[TG01 ROM Development] kevinpwhite:
l3v5y is currently on holiday.... but he didn't say when he is back.
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
Reading his Twitter and his messages here I think he's no more on holiday.He's developing other things, I have faith in him but he has a phone with our donation, now we expect our promised roms, we paid for them.We need news :( .
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
He still is one holiday.

But yes you are right...

He is not doing the right thing by keeping you guys in the Dark.

I will try and talk to him because thats not right how he has your Donation device but not saying whats going on with it.

Im not saying he has a ROM or anythin, maybe he is trying it out now, but atleast you should know if he does or not.

And Trust me guys, he is a hard worker... so HARD that its hard for me to get in contact with him, I am lucky if I catch him on MSN.
[TG01 ROM Development] Zipu:
If he's not going to relase ROM, he should give device to Nokser, becouse he realy work with ROM.
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
Well try suggestion that to him...

And I think they live in different countries so that will be a little harder.

But yes, I am waiting for a ROM too, so I can buy a TG01 and Compair it to my HD2 and also when the Toshiba K01 comes out in June... to compair to that.

So Idk, If only there was an easy way to contact him.
[TG01 ROM Development] Zipu:
Nokser is from Poland

he can send him device...

Nokser do a lot of for us, but he still don't have device, so he work slow...
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
Thanks for all Wen, we wait your news SOON :) .
[TG01 ROM Development] anon-4:
Recieved a message via twitter from l3v5y.
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
Finally an update.
[TG01 ROM Development] strike-down:
Any sign of a ROM yet???
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
Idk..... hopefully soon.
[TG01 ROM Development] arag0n85:
Wen... I usually don't like to blame people, but I think that l3v5y should had posted a ROM... doesn't matter if it's an early beta to upgrade, but something. People think that you had lied us all... Talk with him and get him releasing something soon, I know he can. With a working 6.5.5 I think it's a lot easier now to work on it.
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
I am very suprised it isnt out by now.... I thought it should have been released atleast last week.

I wish I could talk to him, but as you guys know... he is very hard to get a hold of, and since we are in way!!! different time zones, it isnt any easier.
[TG01 ROM Development] arag0n85:
I know, and l3v5y helped me a bit also when he was arround here. So I don't think the money people sent to you was a waste despite he post a rom or not, but I'm just giving you an advice for your public image. I understand why some people could be angry with you, and I really think people shouldn't. At the backstages you did a lot to get ROM's on the TG01.
[TG01 ROM Development] WenWM:
Yes I know, but the good thing about me is... My public image isnt too much of a big deal to me(except when people are mad at me for a stupid reason) and as long as it goes down for a good cause.. then I am happy.

And the TG01 getting a Cooked ROM is a good cause...
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
Wen did a lot for us and it's a pity that someone think that this situation happens for his fault.I hope to see l3v5y's as soon as possible, so finally everybody will be happy.
[TG01 ROM Development] anon-4:
L3v5y posted on Twitter this afternoon that he was having computer problems.
[TG01 ROM Development] Alucard24:
Almost one month without updates....
[TG01 ROM Development] arag0n85:
You should read this topic before that.