yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G General] tropmonky:
The original question isn't about the display screen. I don't care about TFT or AMOLED, I'm only taking about the touchscreen which has nothing to do with the display.

http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad

The current problems with basically all the current HTC phones is that they use a Synaptics 2000 touchscreen... The N1 has basically the same touch hardware as the G1 and all the current HTC phones... Frankly it sucks for a modern day "superphone", I say modern day smartphone that relies on touch for it's only input. It's sad that HTC/Google went with a inferior touchscreen compared to the iPhone which has been out for how many years already? Clearly for multitouch games and applications to work properly the Synaptics 2000 just won't cut it.

I'm hoping the EVO will move to the Synaptics 3000 screen which is true multitouch. That's what I'm trying to find out, what manufacturer and model is the touchscreen.

You can see a demo of the Synaptics 3000 in action here: http://vimeo.com/5739205

Ahhhh, true multitouch like the iPhone. I bet all the wackness I get when trying to type fast will go away with this. Oh, and the phone won't freak out if part of my hand is touching the side of the glass ever so slightly.
[EVO 4G General] keatre:
Wow.. Well thanks for the edit now, atleast. My apologies for not digging so deep into your question. I do know about the Synaptic screens, however, I do not know if the EVO is 2000 or 3000.

Again, I'm SO sorry for not understanding initially.
[EVO 4G General] tropmonky:
no worries, I just feel the need to spell everything out because, well it's the internet.

I hope a new kick butt Android phone comes out this year with true multitouch... I miss the iPhone quality a lot.
[EVO 4G General] keatre:
...That was supposed to be sarcasm, but oh well, glad we're all happy.

..Anyways, after a little digging, I found a rumor that Synaptics isn't doing the touchscreen for the Evo, Atmel is.

Could be bogus, but who knows.
[EVO 4G General] tropmonky:
Whew, more than I could find out which was/is nothing, LOL!

Being HTC has used Synaptics in all (From what I know) of the recent phones over the last 2yrs I find it hard they would go somewhere else... But hey, maybe Synaptics is asking too high of a price for the new 3000 screen... who knows..

That 4in 4G phone sure looks awesome though!
[EVO 4G General] keatre:
News article quote I found..

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10723835/1/ipad-boom-could-catapult-small-chipmaker.html

I've only played with the iPad at work, and not extensively, but the thing has a pretty dang good responsive touchscreen. Again, this is from 2-3 days of use, so not entirely sure.. But I've had little issues with it.
[EVO 4G General] tropmonky:
NICE FIND! I hope it's true, if so it sounds like the EVO may get the same quality as the iPhone....
[EVO 4G General] Manicmobileaddict:
thumb friendly

I think multitouch on a phone is over rated. It's an inconvenient gimmick. I prefer operations that can be done one handed. I'd rather double tap to zoom so I don't spill my coffee on my phone.
[EVO 4G General] eaglesteve:
If the news is true that HTC Supersonic uses the same screen as iPhone, then I'll be extremely happy. Everyone knows iPhone still have the best touch screen technology, although that technology is 3 years old now. There as a robotic test done to compare the various screen. You should be able to google it and find the test report.
[EVO 4G General] eaglesteve:
I have to respectfully disagree with you.

Multitouch is fantastic if the software developers knows how to use it. My web browser in iPhone is an example of where multitouch has been put to good use. Double finger left to go the previous tab, double finger right to go the next tab, three fingers to bring up the favourites, etc, etc. On full screen, where you do not want any button to clutter the web page, such possibility is pure joy. Another example, you could have a music player where you can double finger left to go to previous song, double finger right to go to next song, three fingers up to use the next playlist, etc. You can safely use the music player like this while driving!
[EVO 4G General] audscott:
I guess I'll jump into the frey. The iPhone set the standard when there wasn't one. Apple has done a monumental job on it's portable devices, where, arguably, their computers could have had broader appeal - but I digress.

My HD2 has some very nice features, but it took me a month to get used to the capacitive screen, with and without the touch sensitivity tweaks available in the HD2 forum. The pinch to zoom functions work well in opera (I don't use PIE), but other applications, like media player are not suited for this functions, even though it works using a homegrown app posted on the HD2 forum.

I'm guessing the EVO will have the same, non AMOLED, TFT capacitive screen the HD2 has. I've seen the HD2 next to the iPhone in sunlight. iPhone absolutely blows the HD2 away, so I try my best to stay out of the light. I live in the NW US, so that's not usually a problem. :D

I've found the back hardkey button works nicely for previous browser or application screen, but lack of forward function in the browser is quite frustrating.

One last thing. In most states driving while using headphone is illegal. Please do so safely with one eye out for the police.
[EVO 4G General] keatre:
So I'm a bit confused here... The HTC Evo and HD2 have the same screen, yeah? So the HD2 has the amtel chip... Would we then be able to say all the trouble with HD2 screen (see prev poster) will also come with the EVO?
[EVO 4G General] audscott:
Now I'm confused: Which troubles are those?
[EVO 4G General] keatre:
In response to the previous poster above mine, who was upset with the HD2 screen...
[EVO 4G General] Manicmobileaddict:
We all have our preferences I guess

To me multitouch means two hands and I don't mind controls on the screen (that's what scrolling is for, to see the rest).

I do admit, however, the fact that the machine can do it is pretty cool. Maybe an option to turn it on or off would be cool. Could be useful for movies. I guess it wouldn't hurt if I spill my popcorn on it.

I just like the idea better for the pc and laptops (and surface and ...). I think it's a better idea than the mouse (which I hate also, just makes you take your hands of the keyboard and slows you down and keeps you from learning to keyboard well-but then touching the screen makes you take your hand off the keyboard as well). I digress.

I would like a very bright, vivid display, but also very tough. Is there a gorilla super amoled?
[EVO 4G General] cobrasixtysix:
Damn that Synaptics 3000 demo is so freakin cool. Of course, now that Ive seen it I want it :D

I found another video here that explains and demos the synaptics 3000 screen in more detail.

engadget.com/2009/07/22/synaptics-clearpad-3000-touchscreen-does-10-finger-capacitive-m/
[EVO 4G General] tropmonky:
I want a screen that doesn't wig out if part of my hand is touching the glass and I'm trying to do something else (like my nexus one does)... also, you won't find anyone setting any typing records with this phone (TYPING not swyping) due to the poor touchscreen interface... Hence a quality touchscreen makes all the difference in the world... almost like the difference between a rollerball mouse vs a laser mouse.
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
the Evo 4g has a new maxtouch touchscreen sensors allowing for unlimited touches :)

http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/htc-incredible-and-evo-4g-to-feature-new-maxtouch-sensors/
[EVO 4G General] cobrasixtysix:
The maxTouch screen looks to have the potential to be even better than the Clearpad 3000. Im seriously considering the HTC EVO 4G or the HTC Incredible on just this point alone.
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
yup me too ..as soon as i read that article my nexus one looked like junk to me..well not really but still im definitely selling my nexus for the evo
[EVO 4G General] tropmonky:
OMG OMG OMG.... I'm a 31yr old guy that is giggling like a little school girl.... well not quite, but I feel like I could with this news!!!

bobdude5, thank you so much for posting this! Odd, I follow Android and me pretty much daily and I missed this! I think it goes to show they could stand to update the layout of the site... or it just flew under the radar and didn't hit the front page for more than a day.

I consider this huge news!

I'm right there with you bobdude5, I think this will be a Android based phone I'll be able to live with for 1-2yrs... I'm glad I'm not on contract with my current N1. Just to make sure I'm going to wait about 1-2 months after the EVO 4G comes out.

On the whole 4G thing, I'm not sure it's really worth paying more to get 4G coverage.... 3G is perfectly fast for all my heavy phone browsing needs, plus it's only a matter of time before they bundle it in as a normal item anyhow (even though it may be like 1-2-3yrs).

Thanks again bobdude5!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
your welcome :) it is huge news and if it makes you feel better i'm 20 and i was giggling like a little school girl too lol..when i found out the problems with my nexus ones multitouch i was completely turned off. Not only does that crappy clearpad take its superphone status away, it also turns developers away from android >_<..im getting the evo the day it comes out, i cant wait to go back to sprint, coverage was amazing for me.
[EVO 4G General] scirio:
let's clear this up now;

the EVO is not have amoled
[EVO 4G General] bobdude5:
amoled is that not that big of a deal, its a pain in the ass in the sun (yes you can put the brightness all the way but then that just kills the batter incredibly fast), colors still look great on the evo..but i have to admit in non sunny areas its really nice to look at my screen and admire the colors ..super amoled is the way to go but tft is just fine
[EVO 4G General] cobrasixtysix:
The EVO doesn't have AMOLED display, thats true, it's TFT, but the HTC Incredible does have AMOLED display and (almost) everything the EVO has except HDMI out and a 3.7" screen instead of the EVO's 4.3". I just like the larger screen of the EVO and even if its not OLED its still a great screen. Here's a speil I found on April 21, 2010. http://www.gadgetsdna.com/iphone-4g-hd-vs-droid-incredible-vs-htc-evo-4g-vs-nexus-one/2436/

I've seen specks that show the EVO does wireless /n as well and seems to be a pretty sure bet that it does, although not shown on this comparison. Either way, it looks like we are in for some great phones from HTC.
[EVO 4G General] mountaindont:
i just hope whatever kind of touch screen it has it can withstand the huge load im going to bust all over it when i first remove it from the box.

and all the drool from my friends ive been bragging too.

i guess seeing it in the sun would be nice, though.

oh, well...
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Has anyone figured out a way to play externally downloaded podcasts (mp3s) using Google's "Listen" app?

(In other words, use Listen to play something that was not downloaded by the app)
[Nexus One General] papermonk:
I would love to know this too - if I download an mp3 of a podcast which is no longer hosted online can I somehow add it to the Listen app and listen to it through that or do I have to add it to the Music app?
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I asked on the Google forums and it looks like it's impossible :(

The files have hidden information embedded or something so that Listen will pick it up.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] MoshPuiu:
After some hours of searching a way to polling emails and update weather over GPRS connection even if the phone is on stand-by, I found a way that works (at least for me)!

It is a combination of tricks already posted on this forum but in a way that makes Outlook and Weather to update automatically at preseted intervals and after that to close the GPRS connection.

It is something like that:

GPRS off -> GPRS on -> Outlook/Weather update -> GPRS off

There are some registry settings:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\

CacheTime = 120

SuspendResume = GPRS_bye_if_device_off

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}

Default: 1

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Resuming\{EB91C7C9-8BF6-4a2d-9AB8-69724EED97D1}

Default: 2

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}

Default: 1

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}

Default: 1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jpcdeux:
So I just picked up a Tilt 2 from a buddy. It runs horribly slow, and through file explorer and such I've removed a lot of the junk bloatware.

Basically I'm just looking for any tips/advice while I build up the courage to do my first flash.

Anything anyone could share would be greatly appreciated!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kimtyson:
Read, read, read. Then do some searching and read some more. Don't be in too much of a hurry. That's my advice. And welcome to the boards.:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
First things first, it is super easy, just follow the steps and everything should work. One of the most important things to remember is, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS check if the software you are downloading is compatible with your version of WM or TF3D. You can check this info by going to start > settings > system > device info >software information.

Depending on what your buddy did to the phone, he could have completely screwed it all up. I would recomend doing a couple hard resets on the device (with the device off hit your power button, the send key and the volume down, it should bring you to a grey screen where you can reset to manufacture defaults). Next, since you are on AT&T go look for some specific AT&T ROM fixes (AT&T speed fix, dynamic proxy, nopushinternet are three big ones for WM 6.1, not sure about 6.5).

Keep reading around and when you come across something you don't like do some searches, about 99% of the information i've ever wanted was findable via a google search.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jpcdeux:
When I got it from him I erased memory, and reset it to how I wanted. He wasn't really into modding so it was pretty much stock.

All I know really is:

radio is 4.48.25.20

Rom: 1.59.502.3 (67150) WWE

If that means anything to anyone.

Thanks for the kind replys. I was hoping to not get too flammed! ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] token2k6:
that seems like some really old stuff. Yeah, it took me a full month to get up the courage to run HardSPL..when I did, it didn't work 4 times in a row (screen would just go black (not like suggested it would) and would stay that way). I got so scared, but luckily every time it didn't work, my phone still worked, so no brick. Finally on my last attempt before I was going to give up for good, it worked!! now I've flashed a few roms and it is awesome.

My advice, like others is to read a lot, memorize the HardSPL post (read: read it a million times) before you attempt it and make sure you're doing it when you have nothing but free time and no interruptions (I was doing it at work and people coming in and out of my office, was not fun!)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
For your first flash you will need to remember that you are a GSM device, anything CDMA will not work. Read up on Hard SPL your GSM device and Flashing your first GSM ROM. Both of those are the groundwork for everything you will be doing, it is important to understand them fully.

I would suggest doing a hard reset following this technique:

Clear Storage via start menu (start > settings > system > Memory or Clear storage).

Flash Stock ROM

Remove battery, replace after 30 seconds and Clear Storage

Flash Favorite ROM

Remove battery, replace after 30 seconds and Clear Storage

That should fully wipe your storage and you will experience a much quicker OS. Also, you might wanna try the follow:

SSK Dynamic proxy cab

AT&T Tilt 2 Data speed fix

NoPushInternet

That should improve performance as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jpcdeux:
Thanks for the tips!!

Another question... How do I know what will go with my phone? Will everything say Tilt 2 in the title?? I see a lot of Pro, etc but just want to make sure...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
Any GSM tools (ROMs, Radio ROMs, unlockers, etc.) made for the HTC Touch Pro2 (Rhodium) should work on your AT&T Tilt2. Things for the original HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) will not work on your Tilt2, as will things made for CDMA Worldphone Touch Pro2 variants, and when used on your device will likely brick it. Ensure that any tools or ROMs you use are GSM and for the Touch Pro2/Rhodium/Tilt2, and you will be fine
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] InRBigness:
For the Tilt2 I really recommend that you start off after your hard reset by installing and running Crud Scraper. It will get rid of all the bloatware that will be reinstalled after a hard reset.

Then as others have said read lots, make lots of backups so that if you load something that doesnt work right or you dont want you can just reload a known good backup. I use Sprite and like it a lot.

The phone will also be a lot faster if you dont run TF3D. It does use a lot of memory and although it looks nice it doesnt really do anything. It is a personal choice however.

I would play around with different settings and tweaks with the stock rom until you find out what you really like. Then you can flash a rom that has the stuff you want in it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jpcdeux:
That was the first thing I disabled! That 3D crap was horrendous! I deleted a lot of stuff through the file browser and it's a noticeable amount better. The one thing I dont like is the browser. It's the slowest thing I've ever used! I get non-stop errors and cant do half the stuff I want! Even on wifi, it's slow. Maybe it's just the phone itself, idk. Other than that, it's getting better. Ill try that cleaner, thanks again for the suggestions! :D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h2opoloplyr_11:
Sorry if this has been asked before, but i cant seem to find the right answer.

But i have an ATT nexus one and wanted to root the phone so i can use the SETCPU app and app2sd.

The question is do i have to install a custom rom when rooting and using those apps? Or Can i just root and use my stock rom that came with the n1.

Thank you and sorry if its a dumb question.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiNJiN76:
I'm not sure about apps2sd (i don't use it)...but you can use setcpu for sure.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
Setcpu requires root access and apps2sd has to be enabled in the rom but your stock rom wont have it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h2opoloplyr_11:
got it thank you! well i guess ill have setcpu for now....

dont want to dabble with custom roms yet......maybe soon. thank you again!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mizzel16:
i currently flashed the 2.22.23.02 then i flashed back the 26I so that i could flash the danger spl after that i flashed the 2.22.23.02. now i wanna go back to the 26I because a certain rom requires that radio but when i try to flash it it keeps saying installation aborted. sorry i know its sounds confussing but if anyone could help me id really appreciate it thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bunu:
actually no ROM requires the radio for the g1/mt3g (from what I know and flashed) so the new radio is good. All you need is the danger spl. The new radio greatly improves boot up time and signal so I advice you to keep the new radio and just forget about the old radio.
[Dash 3G, Snap General] ripz69:
I have looked so if I have missed this one please tell me.

I can't find how to change default folder locations for documents I make. I have used chome configurator to make my own shortcuts bar for my most used progs. I use one note for notes, and a to do list, etc. If I look for options about where to save the docs I create I find nothing to alter the defaults.

I have installed resco reg editor and wondered where I make the changes in the registry to alter the defaults for notes and other stuff to the storage card folders. Shame microsoft saw fit to exclude the choice for us mere mortals. What about if I need to restore a backup.

Anyone please.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sprime01:
I see alot of screen shots of nexus themed roms that show a five boxes towards the bottom of the screen with what seems like screen previews. How do i use this feature.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
If you mean the anderweb one then you flash it via recovery, now if your in the dream section I assume your using a 32B device that's rooted. If you have another device, hero,tp2,droid,etc then your looking in the wrong place fellow
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] wildseal2003:
where can i get the fm radio app? i installed a custom rom that doesnt have it. and which one is better the htc radio or the original?
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] Diagrafeas:
You could use PowerRadio.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] orelsi:
There is a cab for the original and for the HTC one. There are special apps as well. Just look through the topics.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fitsnugly:
Anyone know how to get rid of these listings of ghost apps in the Manage Applications list?

com.amazon.mp3 & com.motorola* ?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiNJiN76:
this is what I was trying to do...actually have a thread going.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5995244#post5995244

The answer is in there...Thanks to daveid
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fitsnugly:
Thanks a lot!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] JHPadu:
I've been trying to get Desire's PDF Viewer to work on a N1 ROM (CM 5.0.5.3) with no luck.

I can start the app but get FC when trying to open a pdf-file.

I pushed the following files:

/system/app/FilePicker.apk

/system/app/PDFViewer.apk

/system/lib/libpdfreader.so

(been trying to install the PDFView.apk separate too)

Did I miss a/some file(s) or do you think it will require more than just pushing some files?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] bobtentpeg:
Why bother? Quickoffice (which you can pull out of any of the Modaco custom roms, even the prebaked ones) will handle PDFs and most other text based files
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] JHPadu:
Well Quickoffice kinda suck cause it doesn't always show everthing in a pdf-file (think it converts it to some web format? )

And I want the pinch-to-zoom function ;P
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] bobtentpeg:
IMO you're better served just using QuickOffice, it should render them out just fine unless they were saved with the "adobe compression scheme and not just optimized. then you'll get odd rendering. As for pinch, I believe theres a mod for that if I'm not mistaken.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] JHPadu:
Well that might be true, but I can't decide how others save their documents. Several times I haven't been able to view the whole content. For example when I download the timetable for the buss line I can't see the days and where the buss stops - which is kinda worthless.

But my topic isn't about how well QuickOffice works or not, but how to make PDF View from Desire to work on a N1 ROM.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Paul22000:
Please stop posting. It's EXTREMELY frustrating when someone makes a thread and other people try to talk them out of it.

Anyway, on topic, QuickOffice sucks ass. It pixelates the crap out of files when you zoom in. The Desire ROM PDF viewer is the ONLY PDF viewer available for Android that doesn't completely destroy PDF files when zooming in. (And that is including the half dozen PDF viewers on the Market).

Unfortunately no, you cannot export the PDF viewer from Desire onto Stock ROM.