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[Nexus One Accessories] jcohenlv:
There would be no way for them to actually DO that. Looking at the piece you can clearly see some are too small for the areas they are trying to cover.

Ill give the skin a few weeks and see how it feels.

For those of you interested here are some photos from the other thread that explain what I mean PERFECTLY

http://adambuckeridge.com/nexus-one/zagg-nexus-one
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Well, as far as the screen protector size... EVERY stick-on protector is short. I'm guessing they all used the same template before the phone came out and are too lazy to change it.
[Nexus One Accessories] rotohammer:
I thought it was supposed to be invisible? :)
[Nexus One Accessories] cyben76:
On all my previous phone, 4 so far, i used Invisible Shield, all installed on my own, and had always recommended it frens. So naturally i ordered InvisibleShield before i ordered my N1.

Previously InvisibleShield shipping was fast, this time round Nexus One came first and the shield came nearly 2 weeks after that. I never use the phone till the shield came, since i still had my old phone.

The InvisibleShield was PITA to install, the corners was not covered (as usual), the fit sucks!, Alot of big gaps here and there, i tried installing it 4-5 times, no matter how i tried i was not happy with the fit and quality.

So i return them for a refund, I needed a skin badly so i google around and read on several forums to find a better replacement.

I found BestSkinsEver, read alot of gd reviews on it, but was skeptical since the price was way cheaper then other full body skin out there.

When it arrives, i was abit disappointed. It came in a small envelope, whereas Zagg came with cardboard box with application pad and stuff. So i followed the online instruction on how to install BSE, i was amaze at how easy it was to install!

Other then mixing your own application liquid, the fit was great. I installed it once and it fit perfect!!! Very minimal bubbles, all the corners were covered!!! I did not use the screen protector though, since i prefered matt ones, easier to use Swype with.

Its been more then a month since i used BSE, still looks great. Corners not lifting, no signs of dirt trap on the sides, a prob i use always have with Zagg.

I highly recommend BSE, cheaper, fits great, cover corners, easy to install and also very enviromental friendly shipping package.
[Nexus One Accessories] jamesyb0i:
ur meant to leave it overnight after applying the skin
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
100% spot on.

I just bought the screen shield part, and it looked like goat crap, and it wass tacky as hell. The fit was poor because it's too floppy to align, the bubbles that are supposed to go away after 24 hours didn't and there were areas around the edges that didn't stay down.

I hated it, ripped it off the phone after the 25th hour and I'll badmouth those crappy shields for the rest of my life, or until I can't remember what a Nexus One was anymore. A warranty of a lifetime replacement of goat poop is worthless to me. It was a complete waste of my time and money.

I ended up buying a Seidio case for it - it's nice and easy to remove. I will look into another brand of screen protector. I don't care if they don't last forever - if it goes a day without looking like crap it's way ahead of a Zagg. I guess when it looks that bad to begin with, you can't really tell when it's degrading too easily.

Bottom line - and I have seen a lot of them since, is that they are ALL tacky, they ALL look like crap and the ALL introduce tons of artifacts to the screen.

Buyer beware - there is no money back on these.

I did. It was still an awful pile of crap on my screen after 24 hours - and I let it sit. It was the first time I didn't have to charge a battery in a while.

That was a joke, right?
[Nexus One Accessories] JJackson9995:
Meh. Zagg makes good products overall... But the FIT on the N1 is absolutely atrocious. I will gladly buy a custom zaggskin if they can get a proper fit... I just emailed them to request information on possible plans to change their design for better corner coverage, or any other options they might be able to offer.

I'm not expecting anything in regards to getting a skin from them... But I'll hope nonetheless. (I would buy BSE, but I'd REALLY love to have a custom design if Zagg can answer my request.)
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
Should and does are two different things. I've seen lots of them on iphones, and they all look like crap, all of them with some bubbling under gooey, sticky plastic and no small amount of screen distortion. After I bought mine, I inspected installations of Zagg at Best Buy where I bought it - guess what? There were about a half dozen of them on test phone and they were all tacky. According to the resident geek, most of them were on there for well over a couple of weeks. The tackiness may diminish somewhat over time, but it will never be gone. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.

I think the reason these are so over-hyped is because people feel like they were fools for spending upwards of $15.00 for a cheap chunk of stamped plastic that performs so poorly, so they promote them instead. What a crock.
[Nexus One Accessories] Talderon:
I bought one for my Zune 120 and installed the back and didn't bother installing the rest of it. Ended up taking it off the back. I will never buy any more of these "cover all" device covers again.
[Nexus One Accessories] milkham:
another thing that that might not be evident right away is that crud sticks to the outer edges of these types of screen protectors i had this on two non touch screen phones and didn't mind it except for the gummy crap that i'd be peeling away from the edges all the time.
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Ok, then allow me to clarify. It DOES clear up if you install it properly. I've been using Zagg or Zagg-like products since I had my T-mobile Dash. It's just like installing window tint... if you're completely haphazard with it, it will look like crap. But in all the ones I've applied, they've all LOOKED great, aside from the orange peel effect that's evident on just about all the skin-type products. The best that I have used thus far is Clear Protector. I've had their screen protector on my G1 for almost 9 months and it looks perfect still.

Also, it (and the others) was tacky coming from just the glass screen at first. Over time the CP on the G1 has gotten MUCH smoother and less sticky. I suspect a small amount of this change is really just me getting used to the film and forgetting how smooth the glass is on its own (I remember when I took the last Zagg off my G1 prior to the CP and being surprised at how much more slick it felt), but I have compared it to one of my fresher installs and there's a noticeable difference.

Anyway, my main point is that you're right about the tackiness never completely going away, but wrong about the screen looking like crap after the install has settled. If it still looks like crap after a few days, then the installer screwed up.
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
Well, it's evident that it's pretty damn easy to screw up, because every installation I have seen looks screwed up. Even if there were no bubbles, the screen look mottled and distorted. And if you look closely enough, there are always bubbles.

As far as my own experience goes, I didn't just "haphazardly" apply it - I followed the directions supplied with it to a T.

That "orange peel effect" you refer to is NOT on all screen protectors - this isn't my first go 'round with screen protectors.

The Zagg product is just a lousy, crappy, overpriced, poorly engineered product, and I don't know how anyone being objective could think otherwise. The fact that a company provides no avenue for refund is very telling about their product. Effectively, there is no satisfaction guarantee - a guaranteed lifetime supply of goat dung isn't satisfaction.
[Nexus One Accessories] Deleted member 2351944:
Uh, can I point out here that "looks like crap" is completely subjective? You may have been happy with it but I was never very happy with mine. The fact is the thing is not completely "invisible" - the orange peel effect is very noticeable and it's going to be up to each individual user to determine how acceptable that is. I thought it looked like ass, myself.

Frankly, I was just thoroughly unhappy with the Zagg Invisible Shield. The whole-body protector was utter sh*t, with the corners peeling up left and right, and gunk getting under all the corners making them impossible to stick back down (not to mention the large gaps at the corners), and even the screen protector got lint and dust under the edges, bubbling it up. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so outrageously expensive and unable to be removed and re-applied.
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
While I agree, Zagg isn't the best out there, I can guarantee there are at least a couple that are worse! Anyway, there is enough competition and alternatives to never have to buy either of those brands, including Zagg.

I agree with your initial comment... and on a continuum of various subjective outcomes, I'd hardly say Zagg looks like crap. Ghost Armor is the worst I've found....yellowing after only a couple months. I'm sure others are also pretty crappy in comparison since the number of knockoffs is staggering. That being said, there are many products superior to the Zagg as well. Clear Protector, PhantomSkinz, BSE, etc.

I should clarify, contrary to what it seems you guys think, that I was never totally happy with the InvisibleSHIELD. I much preferred the Clear Protector on my G1...and on my N1, I am thoroughly happy with the dcmugen88 static screen protectors. So if I came off as a gung-ho Zagg fan... I'm not. I do think they're overpriced (seriously, $15 for just a screen protector is retarded), and there are better alternatives for less.

The point I was trying to get across, which everyone seems hellbent on disputing is that how good you are at installing makes a difference, sometimes all the difference. I can install at least the screen protector portions of these skin-type products with my eyes closed and the next day you won't even see them on there...I'm sure others can too cuz it's not rocketscience. On the other hand, I'm sure some of you don't have the patience or skill to get it looking that good either... just the way things are. That's all I'm saying. Anyway, if you guys want a great screen protector, I've been saying for over a month to go with dcmugen88... exactly the same as the Seidio product at a fraction of the price...or if you want a skin, get the BSE (Best Skins Ever) product. Paul22000's installation pics are proof positive that it's the best skin for our phones.
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
Well, I stand corrected. Evidently, there is an avenue for a partial refund. I say partial because the buyer is on the hook for shipping the entire package back to Zagg, and that's not free. You also need to get it done within 45 days and have your original sales receipt.

In the end, you can get SOME money back in exchange for a boatload more effort than it's worth. Still, I'd rather give the post office some money and Zagg zip, zilch, nada - so I'll be enduring the aggravation of the pursuit of a refund on general principle.

Update: After two days, I got an email back from Zagg effectively saying they don't refund items they didn't sell directly. This is not a returnable item from the retailer I bought it from - so I am back to getting even more camel dung for my money - or nothing. I choose nothing and a lesson learned.
[Nexus One Accessories] rotohammer:
Of course, but but someone was bound to say it.
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
Well, you forgot to say "bazinga!"
[Nexus One Accessories] jcohenlv:
Ok so its been 4 days ......

Case is still Tacky, not as bad as day 1 but still tacky!

Orange peel effect on the screen has not cleared up!

Dust and gunk are starting to build up on the edges and its been in the micro fiber bag since I bought it..... what a POS.

If you say the orange peel affect is from "poor installation" I will laugh my butt off. This was installed BY A ZAGG REP IN A ZAGG STORE! So don't give me crap about "poor installation"

I have decided to make a compromise on this. I am going to keep the full body and just replace the screen protector portion of it. I cant stand the way it affects the way it makes the screen more difficult to type on. So now I am looking for a good CLEAR screen protector.

Any recommendations?
[Nexus One Accessories] :
I have a clarivue antiglare. Thing is awesome, size is pretty much perfect. Installs easy since it's static held and not adhesive held. No bubbles, or anything. I've seen the zagg shield on a camera, and it's not where near what those look like.

I have the anti glare one, but they also offer clear and mirror. I think you'll be happy with it, two for $10.
[Nexus One Accessories] Paul22000:
You should have read the stickies.

/ahem

:D
[Nexus One Accessories] McHale:
the best screen protectors I've found is the BoxWave Crystal. I have them on everything. For my Kaiser, I bought a pack of three to save money later and never used the 2nd or 3rd screen. For my Nexus One, I only bought one and also picked up one of their rubberized sleeves.

Boxwave all the way...
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
The orange peel effect is permanent... don't think anyone would dispute that. The tackiness goes away after WEEKS of use man. Like I said...it improves gradually as oils from your fingers build up and fill the pores of the skin. It's like putting wax on a car's paint, but much slower. Dust and stuff should be minimal if the edges are stuck down solidly...

If you're looking for a good and smooth clear screen protector, go on ebay and buy the clear protectors from dcmugen88. It's a dry install, static protector. He sells a 2 pack for about $2.50 shipped. Yes... $2 dollars and 50 cents! I ordered 2 of them. :)
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
That's just bull****.

The tackiness never goes away, even if it gets better. I just found a friend who's been using a Zagg for quite a while now on his iphone, and it's still tacky. He figures it's better than an unprotected screen, and he just doesn't want to hassle with fixing it - but he doesn't like it. By the way, it also looks awful.
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
So you're willing to put up with dust and gunk building up all over the phone wherever there's an edge in the cover?

Pretty soon it will look like you're blowing a troll every time you make a phone call.
[Nexus One Accessories] Cheeze[iT]:
Alright. I use to have invisible shield and now I only get body-guardz. Invisible shield will always have the rough or "orange peel" affect on the feel and display of the product. Its the nature of the product. Other competitors, ie: body-guardz, phantom skins, have SOME waves on the protector, but not as much.

Mine feels great in hand. The cuts are a lot better, and it actually covers the phone more. I'll post pictures tomorrow when I get a chance and show you guys that installed correctly, its actually pretty nice. I would never put invisible shield on my screen, but don't mind it on the body cause it actually gives them a little more grip.

Now it does attract gunk on the edges so it does get annoying. I like how the phone is safe from normal light scratches but the stuff that builds up is bad. For me, its not going to be a problem as I plan on getting the Seidio extended battery to cover up the back... :D

oh btw, I sell/work/install body-guardz daily... some employees that work and install the product doesn't guarantee a correct install. FYI we still make mistakes sometimes, so you might want to see if its either installed incorrectly, or maybe a defective product.
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
So you're calling me a liar? I'm speaking from personal experience man. As I've said ad nauseum, it's nothing like the screen by itself but it definitely gets WAY LESS tacky.

You seem to have gotten the impression that I'm a paid spokesperson or something for Zagg... well I WILL NEVER BUY ZAGG products! They are overpriced and under-quality.

But that being said, it DOES get better after constant use. If you're too thick-headed or confrontational to understand that, then so be it. As I said earlier... I recommend the dcmugen88 screen protector. That thing is gold.
[Nexus One Accessories] h2opoloplyr_11:
i bought the zagg shield for the first time on my tmo n1 as soon as my n1 was delivered. brought it a zagg install kiosk at the local mall. full body with screen. didnt like the screen as it had the "ranibow effect" and researched that it would go away within days. So i waited, but the ATT n1 came out days after i received my n1. So i purchashed the phone, and as soon as it was delivered, went back to the store and have them install on the new phone and take out the one on the tmo.

I opted not to install the screen shield as i was impatient with the rainbow effect and didnt want to have to wait a couple of days to see if it will improve (plus i bought ebay screen protector $1.95/piece free shipping!).

So far the zagg full body with the ebay screen protector has bee the best combo so far for me! phone felt weird the first couple of days, but now its good! And lifetime warranty is good so i can keep coming back to the store when i want. downside is $5 for install fee, but id rather have a pro do it and do it right the first time.

Im happy with mine.
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
That's not what you said. You said it goes away. It does not, therefore it is bull****. No I am not calling you a liar. You more than likely misspoke. Big difference.

No, I know you're position on Zagg and that you aren't advocating them. But the myth that they look better and the tackiness just disappears over time is just bull. No one should be led to believe it and "goes away" implies just that. Best Buy sells them by the gazillions along with new iphones, so I've looked at a lot of iphones with them lately. Every one of them with the screen protector is tacky. Slop some finger grease on there, and okay, it may improve somewhat, but once it's cleaned properly, it gets plenty sticky all over again.

Yup, I am thick headed. Too thick headed to know that "goes away" doesn't mean "better". It means gone. Zagg is bending more people over every day, so if we're going to review it, lets be honest about it, okay?

If you're too sensitive to have someone call you out when you misspeak, then maybe you should just watch more television instead of trying to engage in activities that are just going to hurt your feelings. Otherwise, man up, admit your error, and you'll gain my respect for it.
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
If I ever said the tackiness completely goes away, then I most definitely misspoke! I clearly recall saying that it's never going to feel like a bare screen... so chances are better that you misinterpreted my comments. How about this... the tackiness becomes less pronounced. I'm sure there is also some measure of the user becoming used to the added friction of the screen protector, which makes it seem smoother as well. As for cleaning it making it tacky again... that's not my experience. But then again, I simply wipe with a microfiber cloth, or my shirt or jeans. I've never used any cleaning agent, which seems to be what you think I was implying. That would probably remove any oils.

Anyway, if you shut up long enough to read all of my posts on the Zagg, you'll see that I never meant to imply that the damn thing "disappears into the background"... and I don't need your respect. Your posts on the forum all week are mind-numbingly focused on nothing by Zagg and your hatred for their product. Is your opinion valid? Sure... but you make it seem like they're the devil incarnate. You need to "man up" and stop crying like a girl all over the forums about how you feel slighted by Zagg, blah blah blah.
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
You said, and I quote from post #24...

"goes away" - those were your words. I know full well what you mean, but to say that it goes away is just not true.

It's pretty well documented. You misspoke, I called you on it and now if anyone is crying, I am damn sure it's not me. I'm not the one with my feelings all aflutter and resorting to personal attacks. I was only characterizing these skins as overpriced crap - which they are - and you started all this with inaccurate contradiction - not only with what I said, but with what you said yourself since.
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
10 characters.
[Nexus One Accessories] Eclair~:
Lmao, this made me laugh.. not at you, but that he wrote that for no reason lol and for it just to be blatantly ignored!

Awesomeness..
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Watch out bro... he may redirect his outrage at you next. :)
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
I doubt he ignored it.
[Nexus One Accessories] JJackson9995:
LOL @ Zagg response.

[I asked, if they were contemplating a change to their N1 design... This is what I got (I told them I wouldn't buy, unless they provided proper coverage to the device.)]

"Please note that we have not had any complaints as far as the ZAGGskin design for the Google Nexus One. At this point, we would not be doing any adjustment to the design we currently have. If you have any other questions, feel free to contact us again.

Thank you for choosing ZAGG. We appreciate your business!"

IN OTHER WORDS. GO COMPLAIN THERE.
[Nexus One Accessories] DarkDvr:
Look at my review of BSE in the other thread. Same stuff. I put on my body sheiks and removed it 10 minutes later. N1 has a real sexy feel to it and all this body protectors feel like condoms. Besides its teflon, just handle it reasonably and it wont scratch ever.

I agree with you about how bad it feels. My advice - removed it and enjoy your phone like its was meant to be.
[Nexus One Accessories] infinityhombre:
I had a ZAGG on my Touch Pro I ended up ripping the thing off in two days. Was sticky covered in dust and dirt because it was so sticky and the screen looked like crap. Decided to get the screen only cover for my N1 thinking perhaps I screwed up the install on my TP. It was tacky for about a month and a half after installing it. My screen is clear but I spent about 20 mins putting it on. My only complaint is that the corners are starting to peel up. For what it costs IMHO it is not worth it, was a pita to install and just doesnt seem to last. I just used the generic cut to fit screen protectors we sell at t-moble on my girlfriend's. They were 10 for 15 bucks (same price I paid for my ZAGG) and shes still using the same one and I was able to cut it to fit just right.
[Nexus One Accessories] jcohenlv:
uan & att - You both need to be CTFO (chillin the F*** out, if your not in the "know") .....

Anyway this wasnt an invitation for both of you to go ape S*** on one another. It was me venting about a case that is clearly INFERIOR in quality. You can both argue either side of it all you want but do you both have to be so inconsiderate of each others feeling to both grow the F*** up and just say ... Ok i agree to disagree!

you both must be 12 or something......

ok now that I have vented and the morons have been put in their place ....

So I picked up the dcmugen88 static protector on Saturday off ebay. I should be getting it in about 2 weeks. Ill keep you posted as to the my thoughts on it.
[Nexus One Accessories] attn1:
You know, this had quieted down and now you're begging to escalate it again.

How is it helpful to try quelling a dispute with name calling? You just entered the fray with obvious hypocrisy.
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Look chief...I replied to YOUR post. The other guy got all puffy chested and started in on me and I haven't replied to his posts in 2-3 days, which makes your post both late/moot and a pointless waste of thread space. I don't start **** on this forum (at least lately;)).

Regardless, since "you put me in my place"... I'll say good luck with the dcmugen88 protector. As I've said numerous times, it's hands down the best screen protector value available for our phone.
[Nexus One Accessories] MilkPudding:
Bestbuy has the MT3G one on sale for only 5 bucks, so I got one. OMG it took me 2 hours to do it and it came out bad, especially the corners :(