yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
been trying the updated TaskFacade 4.02 for a couple of days now, and while it works great most of the time, I've noticed since the following:

* random application freezes - after a couple of days without soft resetting and with TaskFacade running in the background, some apps I regularly use just decide to freeze up the phone, forcing me to yank out the battery to soft reset;

* when Opera Mobile 10 has a proper website loaded (NOT a mobile website), eg. www.smh.com.au, switching out of the browser session will somehow cause every shortcut to fail to launch whatever app the shortcut is pointing to - I get a popup error message saying exe failed to launch. Only shortcut that appears to still work is taskmgr.exe (ie. Windows Task Manager) - as soon as I kill TaskFacade everything's back to normal.

I suspect both are memory related problems, since lowering the font cache from 32kb to 8kb did reduce the chances of this occurring, but it still does occasionally. Any ideas what might be the issue in TaskFacade?

I'm using a Euro HTC HD2 running Miri's V11 Sense 2.5 rom with the 576mb memory radio mod, so I don't think it's because my device is physically low on memory.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
Interesting - I have not seen that, and have not been able to repro it so far. Some questions:

- Do you use Opera 10 in turbo mode?

- Do you see any particularly large processes when you look with TaskManager or similar app?

- What shortcuts do you mean - the ones in Start Menu, or C00kie's tab?

I will double-check TM's handling of fonts BTW, to make sure they are disposed of properly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
1) Nope - just use it "as is" via either wifi or HSDPA (most of the time).

2) I'll try to replicate the issue again - last time this happened, Windows Task Manager reported Opera Mobile 10 to be using approx 1.15mb, while TF was using 3.15 :confused:

3) Both - Start Menu shortcuts as well as those in the Home Tab. Weird!

If it helps I'll try send a list of procs running when this occurs. Off the top of my head I have the following running all the time in the BG:

S2U2.exe/iLock.exe (v2.34)

Lumos

Ameba (service) 0.8rc

AMV007's RamDisk (service) - 6mb ramdisk.

LMT 0.7 (latest patched version)

AEBPlus

BlueInput

Not sure if this might be an issue, but I have the Volatile env variable pointing to my Ramdisk instead of Device/Application Data/Volatile default.

EDIT: Replicated! Error occurred after browsing through 6 different webpages. Error message I get is: The file <exe name> cannot be opened. Either it is not signed, etc... Before I was forced to kill Opera Mobile 10, I had the following open: Adobe Reader LE (with Fallout Bible 0 pdf open), Resco Explorer 2010. Opening "Notes" triggered it in this case. Couldn't check gwes size before I had to close Opera Mobile 10, but it was at 33mb after I did. Managed to also freeze my device soon after by reloading the 6th webpage from Web History, opening Notes again, closing Notes and then trying to launch TaskFacade with LMT (double swipe down).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
Awesome, I will try this as well. Thanks for working on the repro!

BTW, it is normal for TaskFacade to be around 3 MB - it is managed, after all, and thus must load some .NET libraries into its process.

Edit: Ha! Got a repro! Something strange is indeed going on there. Not sure what, yet. To get the repro I had to reduce my font cache to 32k - I had it at 512k before that, and couldn't get anything to break. While I figure out what is wrong, you can try doing that. Here's a page with a bunch of tweaks that I used when I first got this phone: http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/top-tweaks-for-your-new-t-mobile-hd2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fuchikei:
Thx man~~nice work!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
wow, 512kb? that's a massive font cache - would've expected you to crash sooner with such a high cache value, since the regularity of the issue seemed to decrease when I lowered font cache from 32kb => 8kb. will give that a go anyways and see what happens.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
It is possible that we mean different font caches. I an talking about the GLYPHCACHE under GDI. Is that the cache value you are working with?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] VariableJu:
Awesome! That's what i've been waiting for....Great Work! :)

Thanks a lot!

Don't want to open a new thread:

If someone is interested in my HD2-TaskFacade-Theme take a look at this...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Yeah - different tweak programs give it slightly different names :) Anyways, tried out the cache tweaks mentioned in the PocketNow link and unfortunately I managed to replicate the "The file <exe name> cannot be opened..." error again :rolleyes: after opening up 4 tabs in Opera Mob 10 once, with the apps open as listed below. However, this time when I closed Opera, issue went away. And weird thing is, after that I haven't been able to replicate the issue since - haven't soft reset, but managed to have 7 tabs open atm of various forums and one news site with the *same* apps + Notes running and still no error :confused:

Running apps: Adobe Reader, ActiveSync, Comm Mgr, and Opera Mob 10 (of course).

Background apps: Same as the other time.

Not sure if useful info, but installed Sense mods: Cookie's Home Tab 1.7.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
No worries. As long as I have a repro, then that's sufficient. If you don't see the bug any longer, then that's a good thing! :)

I am still investigating, but my guess is that this is an underlying OS issue, and not something specific to TF. IE the OS itself was never designed to run on hardware this fast and with programs that powerful. WinCE 5 (on which WinMo 6.0 and 6.5 is based) is limited to only 32 running user processes each with no more than 32 MB of virtual memory. I am guessing that if too many apps create custom fonts then the OS has a memory leak somewhere. I will write a few quick test programs to try to test this theory.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Part of the reason I don't see the bug too often is because I soft reset on a almost daily basis - I try not to let my phone freeze too often because I do use it as alarm in the morning :)

In the meantime I'll see if I can replicate the issue with Opera 9.7 and/or other combinations of programs, with or without TF running - that should also help determine whether it's an OS thing or not.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Just some follow up - since my last post I've alternately tested with/without using Opera Mobile 10 and I'm convinced that TaskFacade + Opera Mobile 10 simply do not place nice with each other :rolleyes: Even the mere act of using Opera Mobile 10 and then exiting the app afterwards eventually causes some sort of freeze sometime later during the day.

Have submitted bug report to Opera, hope they'll bother responding. Or even better, fixing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
Just wondering...

Would it be possible to make it so that all of the running apps are in a single file line centered horizontally and then you could scroll left or right (sort of a palm emulator style) to select an app?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zerocool159:
I second this idea! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zhuozhi211:
Practically speaking Taskfacade style is probably easier and faster to locate individual task.

But... I like this idea too! looks nicer and cooler =) I think Omnia 2 has this taskswitcher and it is on WM... somehow never got to be ported over to HTC or other WM phones, sigh.

Instead of creating a new app, maybe it is easier to port that over? Not that I know how.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Hi Spacepants, not sure if you're still working on TaskFacade, but if you are, would you consider implementing proper "Close" functionality, ie. when TF is open, instead of marking an process to close and then having to minimize / refresh TF to actually close the process, to actually close the process as soon as it is marked, and to refresh the process view accordingly?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
Yup, I am still working - just went on vacation for a while. Sure, that's easy enough - I will add a checkbox for that behavior. The current system allows you to change your mind, which is why I like it - but I see the alternative to this instant mode as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
You are right - it is a very cool idea! I will certainly try to implement it when I get the chance. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Nice - hope you had a good break :) Oh yeah, don't worry about that freeze with Opera Mobile 10 and TaskFacade - I'm convinced it's a memory leak of some sort from Opera Mobile and not your build of TF. Testing to see if it the older Opera Mobile 10 beta 3 plays nice with TF... maybe it's worth putting a warning in the first post.

EDIT: oh yeah, if u need a tester I'm quite happy to help out :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
Cool! I am keeping an eye on this thread. Hoping for an update soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
Ah, right-on, thanks! I may ping you once I have something substantial. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HD2_addict:
Very useful tool. It enables you to quickly switch between running applications like Expose(Apple) or Compiz(Linux...yes Linux has it too, and more).

I've been running it on an HD2 and haven't had any problems so far.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sykozylot:
i can't figure out how to map it to a button. i'm using an Energy ROM, and when i hold the call button the screen just rotates.

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] radzi:
i have no problems on my HD2.. but images preview are square, like 320x240 look.. can you make 'em rectangular? like WVGA ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BearsLikeHats:
Try this it allows you to map taskfacade to a multi-touch gesture, like swiping 2 fingers over the screen.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kristide:
Assign button

How to allocate the phone button to TasFacade 4?

I have tried Settings -> Buttons

There are not listed any buttons in the list.

Does anybody know what to do to connect TaskFacade 4 to the hold phone button?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Shawn_230:
I like how this is 'optimized' for the HD2, yet the themes are so unopitimized that the thumbnails are all stretched out.

And by taking out gps-lover's name from the app, this doesn't uninstall any old versions and just installs your 'optimized' version on top, making a mess.

Thankfully I have my own CAB of the old version with a theme that doesn't look like crap on WVGA, so I can revert back.

Edit: And why is the shortcut named 'Shortcut to Primary output from TaskFacade (Active)?" Huge fail.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] syre:
looks very nice, i test it.

good idea to map the x button on my xperia x1 :D.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NFRCER:
Perhaps you should do it then..

You fail to notice the OP is still working on the development of this App right?

Are you always demanding when things are free?

That's a huge fail for you right there... You are the morons that make this place unattractive for developers.

Learn to be thankful for once.

I dont feel like spamming the thread but it seems it will be needed (My apologies in advance).

See how everyone suggested and none has been rude? He has kindly replied to everyone... He has taken their input in consideration and its coming, just not when you feel it should, people have lives too.

This program is slowly being revived, you should be thankful.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aBE-One:
Wow, this is great! I've been using TaskFacade since when I got my original Touch Pro, and I think it's definitely the most gorgeus task manager for WM - and also with enough functionality. I was so disappointed when the development was put on hold, but now I'm at least equally happy it's been picked up again.

The new version is working great on my HD2. I'll be looking forward to new features also, but it's already the best task manager for WM, IMHO.

Keep up the great work, spacepants!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chronster:
runs great even on my stock sprint tp2. Thanks for taking this up man.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Zepiii:
What about a "unpinch to zoom" to access to it? Just like for the Desire ?

Do you see what I mean?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] arnold:
Great program

I was looking for this for a while, a long while. It looks really great, a missing part for HD2.

I just have an issue, not sure if this is related to my HD2 standard 1.72. When closing a task it doesn't close them all time but if it closes then the program doesn't refresh to show that this task is closed.

Any idea?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NightFire123:
best app seen

really great prog, I maped it to long hold end key on my hd2 and its fantastic!

Is there any possibility to adapt this program so that when starting a programm it will pop up anymated like on changing?

great work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Currently the way "closing" an app in TF works is that the app is marked as closed, then terminated after you switch to another app. Spacepants is planning to implement a hold-to-close I believe.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
For people too lazy to search for themes - go here for non-ugly WVGA TaskFacade 4 themes: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=470096

Personally I use "Aurora" from that thread... looks good :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] arnold:
Thanks aussiebum; Got the logic; great application, hope that development will continue.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NightFire123:
If you like to assign it to sens button down left, copy a shortcut of the program to windows folder and name it "long_send"

If you want to map hangup key unzip and put the attached file to windows folder, override existin exe and put a shortcut of task facade to windows folder renaming it to "EndKeyLNK"

greetz
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Zepiii:
No one intersted in this?

Here is what I mean :

EDIT :

Dunno why it's putting 3 images for the same one :S

Check this video @ 2:07, and you will understand ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzyilSByWbo
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NightFire123:
I remember that I found an app that can lunch others with gestures like this, just some time ago here in app section. will try to find it...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Zepiii:
Yeah, I combined it LMT Launcher, that's great too, but would prefer the pinch system ^^
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] miss_tee40:
Help!!!!

:( I can't seem to get anything added to my phone especially the cookie app. please help somebody anybody PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] {SBR}_L3GION:
is there any way you can put the settings in the registry so that chefs can set them before cooking the ROM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
Heh - guys, if you want me to replace the default themes in the app, let me know. Maybe we should have a vote or something?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
Simple enough. Will do.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
LOL - you are right, found the shortcut thing last week and fixed it. Will add the fix to the latest version, once I am finally done with it. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
No, sorry, that can't be done from within TaskFacade. Not without a full replacement of the launcher.

Not to mention that TF works on top of screenshots, and in Windows (and WM) there is no way to take a screenshot of an app that is not on screen. For optimization it is not rendered until it is actually visible. I guess you could use some sort of default screenshot, but you would still need to be inside of the launcher app when you are starting the new app.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
I'd say just attach a couple of thread links to the first post and let people choose... otherwise you'd probably need permission to incorporate someone else's theme(s) into the cab.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
Ah, good point, didn't think about that. :p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Proz00:
hello thx for the gr8 app

how i bring the task TaskFacade

i used two fingers like in yt and nothing happend i have

t-mobile and cht 1.8 installed

thx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] magius:
Spacepants, I can use your recent fixes in my Pure/Topaz (with the added help from the Aurora Theme and some tweaks) but some crashes happens from time to time.

TaskFacade.exe

NullReferenceException

at TaskFacade.TransparencyKey.Dispose(Boolean disposing)

at TaskFacade.TransparencyKey.Dispose()

at TaskFacade.Config.Theme.Dispose()

at TaskFacade.Config.Settings.Dispose()

at TaskFacade.Program.Main()

Are these settings that I could fix via theme modification or could something be missing from the phone that exists on the HD2?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
I think that's normal for WM... I have a HD2 and TF also quits randomly with a error msg from time to time. Usually happens when a memory-intensive app gets started. Probably means TF is getting de-prioritised and killed :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
You mean zoom? Zoom doesn't work yet - I am working on it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
I think it is just another bug in the original code. I already fixed it in the code checked into SourceForge - it's a very simple one line fix. Still working on the Palm Pre - like UI, though, so haven't uploaded the CAB. I will try to finish it and post the updated version next week.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
Can you let me know what the crash is? With the stack, like aussiebum did above?

An app on a mature OS should never crash - if it does, then something unexpected has happened. I already fixed the bug Aussiebum found. I think it was exposed by the faster CPU - the problem seems to be a race condition which probably wasn't encountered on slower phones.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] abs99:
Love the idea of making this work like the selector in the Palm Pre. That will really make this a "must have" and very finger friendly task manager . . . Thanks for your hard work getting this up and running. I'll look forward to this next release very much.

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Good to hear!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] magius:
Sweet news! Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Also got the behavior, that taskfacade quits, after i started some apps.

My solution: sktools->processes->add to never kill list.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] magius:
Any other way of doing this? SKTools is a pay for app, right?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] VariableJu:
Arrrrr...i've made a theme especially for the HD2/WVGA, with non-streched Thumbs:

xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6189798&postcount=54
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
Looking forward to the updated release in palm pre style.

cool theme. thanks for sharing your work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] famewolf:
How are you folks assigning taskfascade to the long end key? Is there a cab floating around to do this? Any "action menu" replacements that give you the option to call a program?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
You can asign a new app to long send/end key by renaming taskfacade.exe to the .exe that is behind the longpress keys.

How I made it, step by step:

Behind my longpress sendkey is placed CMBandSwitching.exe

(Custom Rom from Dutty)

- go to the taskfacade folder and rename taksfacade.exe to "CMBandSwitching.exe"

- copy "CMBandSwitching.exe" and Theme folder to Windows folder, using totalcommander or e.g. resco explorer. WM should aks you if you want to replace it...click yes.

- deinstall taskfacade(will only empty the original taskface folder, not in windows folder)

- create an shortcut of CMBandSwitching.exe and move it wo Windows/Startup

should working now.

behind the longpress end key is placed usually EndKey.exe, also in windows folder.

You can proceed with it like above.

greetz Jan
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583638
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
I have a hardware hook built in to the next version that ties to the Windows key (since I never use it and see no point to it). Works pretty well. The back key doesn't work - but I will leave it out until somebody requests it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spacepants:
Nice tip - thanks. I will add it to TF at some point.

Still working on animation on my end BTW. For some reason the perf of my solution is pretty bad, otherwise I would have released it already. I hope to finally finish the Pre animation (or at least v1. of that Card UI) during the long weekend.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
looking fwd to it :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] abs99:
That sounds awesome - thanks again for the effort. Can't wait to test this out once completed.

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] abs99:
I've been running this and like it very much! Thanks for creating the new HD2 theme.

Andrew
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] themonkbythesea:
Looking forward to hardware hook for windows key. Windows hardware key is pretty much useless for me too. right now using longpress for send key and though it works, waiting for longpress a little annoying compared to just pressing win key.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Birger:
+ 1 for the hardware win key!

Tnx SpacePants !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Clarion:
I like this app. It works good on my Diamond 2. But... How I can kill process?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nemesis2k9:
I love this app but for some reason the animations dont work on my HD2. Is there a fix for this?

EDIT: Works Fine now:)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pixlgeek:
Ahoy XDA!

So for some reason every time I try turning on Bluetooth, I click the checkbox to activate, it hangs for about 10 seconds, then just turns off. I am unable to get bluetooth to turn on. Any suggestions or ideas as to what might be going on? I don't know how to access the logs to check any output so if anyone can help out with that I might be able to fill you in with more info.

Thanks so much for the help!

-pixl
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonyx3:
Not sure if it's helpful, but a similar thing happened to me when I accidentally tried to root a stock rom with the wrong version of superboot. I used superboot for ERE27 after I'd updated my phone to ERE36b, if I recall.

I just reflashed the proper superboot and was good to go.

Now I'm on CM5.0.5.3, though, and that was a while ago, so...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pixlgeek:
Just a quick FYI.

Im running CM 5.0.53 with the latest radio. It still just refuses to turn on. I even did a stock restore from a nandroid backup (found on this forum) and then re-upgraded to the latest CM.

This is so frustrating, I hate having to carry my USB cable everywhere just to transfer a single file now and then.

Thanks for any help that you guys can provide. I know there is a way to check log outputs, any info on how to do that which could lead to the discovery of my issue?

Thanks,

-pixl
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigacgomez:
a logcat would be useful!!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pixlgeek:
Ya i agree :) However, I'm not sure how to get a logcat... Any help?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pixlgeek:
aha... adb logcat

/me smacks head... working on it now. ;)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pixlgeek:
So here is what my logcat reports when trying to activate bt:

V/BluetoothEventRedirector( 160): Received android.bluetooth.adapter.action.STATE_CHANGED

D/NetworkLocationProvider( 82): onCellLocationChanged [19696,27182127]

D/NetworkLocationProvider( 82): onCellLocationChanged [19696,27183656]

E/bluedroid( 82): bt_enable: Timeout waiting for HCI device to come up

V/BluetoothEventRedirector( 160): Received android.bluetooth.adapter.action.STATE_CHANGED