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[Hero, G2 Touch General] shields398:
ahh right ok thanks for the info!. is it going to be tricky to pull the rom from the OTA update?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] StrongOneX:
damnit...

please rape my face -.-
[Hero, G2 Touch General] NordicZz:
Never mind this message...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] knudsen81:
yes here in dk it's 12.35 am so htc come with it NOW :D
[Hero, G2 Touch General] shields398:
no worries man, beno's just said it'll be released in the morning :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] behnaam:
I estimate the time of the first OTA's to be pushed out 6am and will go on until 12-4pm!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] knudsen81:
how do you know so much about it
[Hero, G2 Touch General] behnaam:
Make sure that u have this setting enabled:

Settings > Security > Firmware Download and tick Prompt before download

OBS! IF YOU FLASH USING THE OTA IT MIGHT OVERWRITE THE SPL AND MAKE YOUR PHONE UNROOTABLE, THIS IS ONLY FOR THOOSE WHO DONT GIVE A JACK **** ABOUT RISKING THE PHONE TO NEVER BE ROOTABLE AGAIN! I DONT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY EARTH QUAKES, MARRIGE SEPARATIONS OR STRANGE OBJECTS FLYING IN THE SKY IF YOU UPDATE (AND ERROR ON THE PHONE). IN THIS LAST LINE I WAS TRYING TO BE FUNNY, HOPE U LAUGHED A LITTLE, OR AT LEAST THOUGHT ABOUT LAUGHING A BIT WHEN U READ IT
[Hero, G2 Touch General] StrongOneX:
Goto behnam's twitter! it looks like he wanna try steal the RUU from the logcat output, he think that the link to the RUU is there

Goood luck :D
[Hero, G2 Touch General] behnaam:
Not the RUU lol, the link to the update package ;) Like all otas a rom.zip is fetched from a server, and logcat will give us clues on where its located!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] StrongOneX:
soorryy im a noob and hero is my first android phone!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] StrongOneX:
well now its too quiet here! :confused:

silent before the storm eyy?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] behnaam:
Go to bed, rest and be ready for the update in a few hours. No need to ask since it wont be out before 6am
[Hero, G2 Touch General] NordicZz:
Do you need to flash back to the generic official HTC ROM before you get the update/OTA? I am currently on Modaco, and I'm too lazy to flash back to stock :/
[Hero, G2 Touch General] behnaam:
Should not be needed!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] StrongOneX:
dont even think about it ! updating with OTA will lock your bootloader and prevent you from getting children!! READ FIRST POST!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] NordicZz:
I don't really care about my Hero anymore, as I'm getting the HTC Desire by the end of this month. As long as the OTA don't brick the Hero so that I can't sell it, I'm happy. :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] behnaam:
This is what I got from my htc source:

This is why I base my arguments on this. So hopefully it will be pushed out if everything goes as planned!

Ps. Its norwegian for thoose who want to translate!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] immya:
HTC desire ota update has just been released. Could this mean hero update will also be ota. And if it is how can we download it without installing it ?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] StrongOneX:
yea hero will ONLY get OTA
[Hero, G2 Touch General] agoNITE:
Well it's 2nd of april here, and yet no update to 2.1 on HTC.com
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Jesterz:
Has anybody figured out which server it checks and at what interval ? although the hero doesn't have this nice manually check for updates button, there should be some auto check built in for this OTA to work....
[Hero, G2 Touch General] knudsen81:
No update in Denmark yet
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pulser_g2:
Guys, sorry to come in and question everything, but @benocharm, can you definitely confirm this will be OTA worldwide?

Being as AFAIK in the UK the networks don't do OTA (T-Mobile certainly release their updates via RUUs over here).

I also see issues in folk who brick their phones doing something stupid in the process.

SUGGESTION:

Oh, and one 'first thing in the morning and unthought out suggestion':

If it is indeed only OTA, couldn't we (on our currently rooted phones) download the RUU and wait for it to ask permission to reboot (I mean it's gonna need to ask you before rebooting). Then, go and mount the cache partition (using our current root permissions) and pull the files from there.

Would that work? Or should I wait a few more mins before posting???

(too early lol)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] mcduck1:
Nothing yet as of 9:45am

In norway.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] knudsen81:
i'm worry about it not will come
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Higgsy:
Guys this aint gonna happen today all the reports ive seen suggest 16/04 for the nordic time zone. Uk won't get it by ota, will get it via download from the htc support site, i have never known ota in uk
[Hero, G2 Touch General] knudsen81:
can you say never
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bluesax:
No update in Italy 10:35am:mad:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] loiscooper91:
Yes..;other thing i see..

in HTC europe home site, i see an update for HTC Desire, only in OTA... no RUU.

and of course, nothing for Hero....so..the scheduled planning is "maybe" a "joke??"
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MojUk:
Hmmm well if it doesn't come today (which lets be honest it won't and we all know that deep down) I shall be using my birthday money + proceeds from the sale of my Hero to buy a milestone or a Desire...screw HTC they keep moving the goal posts, and it they say they haven't committed to a date or whatever then they SHOULD have to counter all of this anti-HTC feeling which has been created by them sitting on their hands allowing it all to happen...I just don't know what to do but be assured the Hero will be off! Sad times as i love the phone ......much love and respect to the dev's on here & htcpedia for all of their hard work!

Basically all they needed to do IMHO was set a date in stone and people would have been happy (happier) than they are now.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cyberkid2002:
Screw HTC, I'll sell my HTC and buy a Desire :confused:

You'll really show them by doing that :p
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
unfortunately this is what HTC wants, lead users to despair so they'll buy a new device like legend or desire....after that the Hero's update will be released...but only when a lot of hero users changed deir device....

unforunately this is probably the truth.....
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Higgsy:
HTC would probably be fine if everyone ditched their Heros and bought a Desire, they already had your money for the Hero, anything else they do with it is not going to make them any more money - Us buying the Desire would. It would make commercial sense update your old phones at least a month after the new batch are out imo.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MojUk:
Lol yeah indeed bud, tbh Milestone is my favourite so would be my preference...just have to stick with the 'screw them' ethos to resist the Desire's sexiness lol b@stards they are!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] DSF:
@cyberkid2002

Why not go for Samsung Galaxy S or even Motorola Milestone (ARM Cortex powerfull CPU & PowerVR powerfull GPU)? At least they are not using cheap hardware as htc. (eg: display, soc - cpu, gpu-, etc).

I think that's my last htc device. I will miss the htc sense software

The HTC support simply rullz. Ah.. 1 april passed..

Now ontopic:

I want to flash the official ROM. See Nexus One. There is no root solution? In the worst case it's just a matter of time..
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
I totally agree with you
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
i really wanna kick some HTC's ass......aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MojUk:
Lets be fair though boys, which phone manufacturer can you actually RELY on to give you regular updates to your handset? Answer is none, because as others have said once a manufacturer has your money their job is done, why do they need to supply updates? They don't, they have the money so as Jay-Z would say 'onto the next one'!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
Milestones and DROIDs alreadey have 2.0.1 and now 2.1 updates....
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
also HTC Droid Eris already has the update......HTC CDMA Hero (sprint) will have it soon (there's already a leak) why Hero GSM not???? Sh*t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] DSF:
For keeping you as a client and maybe you will buy a future device from them?

Anyway, this htc-well-known behavior pissed of many users

C'mon, nobody is like htc. They promised the update since months. HTC Hero didn't even got 1.6.. whatever
[Hero, G2 Touch General] knudsen81:
we will never get a 2.1 update for gsm hero so it's life
[Hero, G2 Touch General] art_sn00p:
Agree. But it is very unwise for HTC to do such dirty marketing tricks. Customer could become very very angry and would not buy HTC production anymore. In any cases.

As for me I don't have free money to buy new phone every month. I don't even understand why I have to. I've got really perfect hero and

_do not want_

to buy another phone. Which has no innovations, no specific upgrades, no new hardware. Just a little bit faster and no more. Some kind of "metal upgrade".

The closed and proprietory SENSE is beautiful. But I bought Android phone first of all. I love open source. And being open source my phone stucked in very old version of OS just in moment of buying it.

Guess it is time to make a petition to antimonopoly commitee
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
i don't think so...I think that in future we will see the update...htc promises it since december...if not they will make a very poor figure (i don't knw how to say it in english)...in italy we say "una vera figura di merda!!!!!"
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
i agree with the petition......
[Hero, G2 Touch General] muchbt:
So i will wait till the end of the day.If there isnt any update today,i will get a moto next week.So sad for what HTC hava done.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] us1111:
x-actly... They lost me as a customer. When i bought the Hero, i was new to android and did not know about versions.. However it soon became apparent that the android version i was using was already old.. Now about 1/2 year later, nothing has happened about that..

HTC does not have to provide us with updates per-sé however there is also the factor of customer statisfaction.. I'm always buying my new phone within the year.. This year it will not be an HTC (but most probably the Galaxy S :p)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Bornin:
How hard can it be for HTC to bring 2.1 to hero? I mean, amateurs like Nathan and Benhaam are doing it for weeks now with very good results so it should be a piece of cake for HTC.

btw, i don't mean to be disrespectful towards Nathan, Benhaam and the other dev's. They make it a joy to own a Hero ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Higgsy:
People can say they will never buy a htc again, but next time they are in line for a phone and the HTC is the device to have or the highest spec phone, they will get one. HTC's speed and innovation in bringing out new phones will easy cancel out a minority of disgruntled owners who actually do follow through and never buy a HTC again. The majority of everyday users who have the hero probably are quite content with the firmware it came with, because its all they know, most users probably don't even know what Android 2.1 is.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
if the firmware is already for Legend it's already also for Hero cuz they are quite the same....and they are not amateur developers....this is only a fu*kin' marketing strategy....:mad:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] muchbt:
Good news!

A swedish user on a swedish android site is reporting he got something similar to a OTA, the name of the zip is mikil_clear.zip,

From B's tweets.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
benocharm from twitter:

A swedish user on a swedish android site is reporting he got something similar to a OTA, the name of the zip is mikil_clear.zip, im working on getting it!

I lost m hope....but we need to hope....
[Hero, G2 Touch General] knudsen81:
yes hope is the only thing we have left
[Hero, G2 Touch General] piotrreq:
Great news :D
[Hero, G2 Touch General] loiscooper91:
i see that here

iplextra.indiatimes.com/topic/Android

blog twitter at the right of the screen .

but mikil_clear ???i don't think that HTC rename is update to "mikil" ....

be care...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pulser_g2:
It's the same name the Nexus One got for its OTA. Behnaam and I agree that the file will come from google, since it's google that has to 'authorise' the ROM to use the paid apps on the market etc. and it contains google apps so must be approved...

Still looking for the original discussion on the forum
[Hero, G2 Touch General] mcduck1:
False alarm :(
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pulser_g2:
It was a false alarm :(
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Bornin:
hmm, dammit
[Hero, G2 Touch General] antz88c:
April fools extended for two days? LOL!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bluesax:
The title of the thread should be:

"NO update to 2.1 from HTC" :P
[Hero, G2 Touch General] loiscooper91:
song:

"I believe ...i can flyyyyyy ..."

PAFFF (a wall ....)

%£%!?!!$ù$ Grrrr

that the funny picture i have of my hope for update now ...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Valcho:
On the HTC's twitter account it says "Location Seattle, US".

According to a website that shows current times in all the regions in the world, which I am still not allowed to post it's almost 4 in the morning. So maybe if we wait couple of hours more, we would be pleasantly surprised :)

If this doesn't happen, I am shooting myself in both heads. XD

btw, if the update doesn't happen today, when is the next hopelessly-wait-for-an-update-of-our-precious-hero-devices date?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] m4nu:
hmm, what's that:

htc.com /uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=283&act=sd&cat=all

Date : 2010-02-04

'cause I'm new here (registrated, before I read this forum very often) I can't post whole links -.-

so you have to remove the space in the url^^

EDIT:

Forget it... In switzerland we read dates on the reverse side, just like this: 2.4.2010... this update is from february -.-
[Hero, G2 Touch General] crilin80:
Is a old upgrade (February, the 4th). No 2.1.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] chudders22:
@m4nu - Its an old update. February 4th. Not 2.1 :(
[Hero, G2 Touch General] deeren:
its the old 2.73 rom. nothing new here :((((
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ltraddical:
Aparently, this update is posted today? For Orange users only?

http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283&cat=2&dl_id=864

But i remember HTC posting a 'Orange' update a few weeks ago in the dutch section aswell..

Just like you said :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Eddie1506:
It's February 4th, not April 2nd :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] art_sn00p:
Guys I've got news from twitter from official russian HTC!

К сведению владельцев HTC Hero сообщаем, что сегодня состоялся внутренний релиз прошивки 2.1. Мы готовимся к публичному OTA-релизу.

It is said that firmware is done at last! But it is closed for now and it is preparing to fly OTA. No dates and time sadly.

#HTC_ru

I've just called to our HTC officials and this information is really true ))) But no dates, no time. They said about mid april. 16th or 17th.

"Update is ready, update is testing, update is preparing to OTA in middle april. Thank you and we hope for further cooperation" Good. smth is clearing up. I'm happy at last -_-
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Sir_Oliver:
Finally something official :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] art_sn00p:
You could make a call himself )) But you have to speak russian language

http://www.htc.com/ru/CA_Hotline.aspx

810-800-256-410-12 is the official number for russian HTC customers.

What about others? Try to call to your customer service?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] mcduck1:
Different regions get updates at different dates. It could be out earlier for the nordic countries.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] art_sn00p:
Good. Internal testing is started at last. Our swedish users confirm this too ))

Terrific. It is time to wait again. Who will be first? Officials or some leaked update ))))) Suggest to bet ))
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
yeah but there is a good chance a leak of this test will happen before then... :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] art_sn00p:
As our #HTC_ru told us in twitter only OTA is prepared. No RUU at this moment. If you have slow connection or no wifi you should visit technical service for update after the release.

It is clear that bootloader and root access is in danger.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pulser_g2:
If it is OTA, then we'll use logcat to retrieve the URL of the update, and then download it via a PC and hack it from there
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ltraddical:
Ok, but is it possible to abort the update without any damage?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
you don't need to start the OTA as soon as the OTA link is sent to your phone logcat will tell us what it was without it being accepted.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pulser_g2:
Indeed... This is how Behnaam plans to do it...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] TheProfz:
Yo,

I'm wondering: can't we use a gold card to do some funky stuff with the phone? like, downgrade it :D (duh)? for example, downgrade back to 1.5? In case one just OTA-updated and realizes his(/her) mistake...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] art_sn00p:
Well, another thing to add. Last two weeks we were taking part in differents surveys from HTC for Hero users.

Some kind of

"Please vote what services are you using most.."

"Please check the most important apps..."

And many many so on.

Guess that our firmware will be highly customized for russian users. As you know services like facebook and twitter aro not popular here. We use our russian analogs of different socials )))

And delay is very predictable in such manner. May be in other countries it could take less time for release.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pulser_g2:
I'd bet my last penny that they'll update hboot to stop goldcards, and remove or disable recovery...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Simc13:
HTC is playing with us!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
From a benocharm Tweet:

HTC Russia says 2.1 OTA within a few days!

Our HOPE!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Simc13:
My ass in a few days i´d rather say in a few f*cking years!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bluesax:
Yeah like always...:mad:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] StrongOneX:
Its past 5pm, almost 6pm and STILL NO OTA!

I am so angry right now!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] knudsen81:
it will first come 16 april someone says
[Hero, G2 Touch General] samusalo:
Got tired of waiting and bought myself N1. Flashed with Desire rom and with the speed it has compared to Hero, i think my Hero will be left untouched from now on.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] StrongOneX:
Logcat (lolcat)

Okay here is what someone have to do.

adb logcat!

to (hopefully) find the link to the update package

I tried adb logcat just a minute ago and it worked very well

lets just hope the link isn't masked or anythinng :p
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pulser_g2:
Yup. If anyone does at any point get offered an OTA, get to a PC and run 'adb logcat > C:\Users\Username\Desktop\OTA.txt' and then send the file to a dev. They'll get the link out it. If you want, you could try searching the file in notepad or grep to find it (lol)...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ltraddical:
Am i the only one who's getting the message '1 update available' ?

Running legendary ROM.. so perhaps that's got anything to do with it?

Anyone else?

Doing the logcat thingy lateron this evening..
[Hero, G2 Touch General] chudders22:
Nope, this is an old update. February 4th. Not April 2nd.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MojUk:
man you have to hate americanised dates....
[Hero, G2 Touch General] chudders22:
Damn straight, the amount of times I have seen this link being posted today has driven me nuts.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ltraddical:
That wasnt me though..

It really did tellen me that there is an update..

But since its allready 2.1 from the legend, i doubt that its for the 1.5 Hero..

Anyway, the fact there is an update, might indicate something?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rdgut:
It's probably from the market.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] StrongOneX:
yes it is from the market
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pulser_g2:
Yup. this is a new feature to let you know when an app has an update (for those who don't check my downloads daily ;))
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rdgut:
It's not a new feature at all actually.

It is however disabled on Sense 1.5 (and enabling it manually through hacks will only get you an unstable phone)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] StrongOneX:
okey someone got new details about the update??
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rayjt9:
I'm sure if they had more details, they'd post them. ;)

I'm fairly new here, so please forgive anything which has changed or is incorrect, but the general overall consensus online and from both HTC and T-Mobile is that there's an update coming within the next few weeks, but no specific date has been given.

Which is a shame, 'cause a date would give us something to look forward to!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] us1111:
I've heard, from a very reliable source, that the 2.1 update is planned for september this year. The source also states that this is done to increase the initial sales for the HTC Desire. HTC has determined from more than one forum, that the longer they wait with the HERO update, the more people are gonna shout that they will buy a Desire, which is even better for bussiness!

True story!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] billias:
If for some reason this is true (and i do not want to argue with my friend).

And it is sounds really reasonable, these Economical Crisis days...

This is my Last HTC.

May 1st if there is no 2.1 upgrade, i will say goodbye.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] salahag:
I'm actually happy with the cooked 2.1 ROM on my Hero. And if you really think about it, 1.5 is also a great ROM. So that's not a reason for me to buy a Legend or a Desire. Each one of them has quite few upgrades and features other than the OS version.

Do you hear me HTC? :rolleyes:

Edit: Plus how many people have the Hero? they shouldn't count on how many of us will upgrade to Legend or Desire. Their target should be new riders to Android and/or HTC, so they should keep in mind it's important to have happy customers not frustrated ones.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] vjprakashbe:
For people, it is not that much hard to understand whoever is going to buy Desire may eventually end up in the same situation what we are (HERO owners) facing now. They need to cry for future updates...

I realize it is always better to go with Google phones (G1, NEXUS ONE, and anything in future...).

Bye HTC!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] B1ny:
My first Android was the Hero, then Liquid, but after that I bought a Google phone and that's the way for me forward. No way I will ever buy anything with anything other than a clean Android os from now on. Just hope more manufacturers understand this in the future.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
But that is no good for those of us that prefer android + sense which I would say is a very large number of HTC android phone users.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] salahag:
Sorry irrelevant question: just downloaded Tapatalk, but can't figure out how to add xda-developers forum to it?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bluesax:
Guys just forget abt the update for a few days/weeks and eventually it will pop up ota. There is no sense in listening to gossip about rls dates from non official sources. ex. a cousin of my uncle's friend that works at HTC etc etc.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ilbulgaro89:
There is the possibility that starting with Froyo Google change his update strategy, bypassing the other brand (like HTC, ACER, Motorola, ecc...) giving update by pack on the market.

For example if he make a new browser he put it on the market (like with gMaps). When he make something new he put on the market not waiting to have a complete new firmware that is made turn-by-turn with all the packs.

I hope this will be the future.....
[Hero, G2 Touch General] brochs:
OTA Update

I guess we will actualy have to be running original Android 1.5 on the Hero to be able to get the update from HTC. Probably moste people in here already are running a 2.1 rom, and will not get info oft the OTA update. At least that's what I think.