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[Windows Mobile Software Development] JVH3:
It's probably the fact that a swipe registers as a dual touch.

And only the second point can move, so no pinch control.

And any app written to use this is putting more priority on finesse than function. Generally, apps are written to perform a function. Then made pretty and cool.

And being able to do actions with just 1 hand is a good thing. Using this makes 1 handed operation very difficult.

It is a neat proof of concept, but why require the second point be held during the hold process.

Not much real advantage over a quick press to point 1. then release and press point 2 in a short amount of time. You can accomplish the same thing as dual touch.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TKETZ196:
I agree with you that the operations would be difficult as far as using it as one handed operation. Look at the iPhone for instance, its multi touch is hard to do in one hand as well. I think this SDK would be practical for things like viewing pictures or maps, or creating a web browser using this SDK. It would be cool if someone can write an app to integrate with Google Maps, so you can achieve the same effect as on the iPhone. Also, it should support double tap to zoom in if one hand is available.

Don't knock it before you try it. Newer devices with resistive touch screens have screen that are sensitive to touch, and i think with something like the SDK you can get a similar effect as on the iPhone or the Droid. i do notice that whenever i am using one of those devices, i only move one finger (the second finger) to pinch to zoom so for me not moving one finger is not an issue. the developer did put a lot of time and effort to release this to the masses, i just hope maybe there will be an update coming down the pipeline so maybe there will be improvements to the engine. I think the developer is a genius and i thank him for making this possible.

I can see your points of view, but i think there could be very creative ways to utilize this SDK and have the apps work well.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JVH3:
I am a developer. Many here on xda use the weather city editor, which I wrote. Why do I mention that? What are some things that motivate a developer?

1. A need that does not exist and they need a solution.

2. Money

3. desire to make something cool to show off.

Well, once you enter the professional world, you start to value your time a little more differently. So, #3 is pretty much if you have extra time, which once you own a house, you find less and less of.

I wrote the weather city edditor, because there was nothing that would work with Touch FLO 3D 2.1 or higher. I spent hundreds of hours creating and supporting the weather city editor. It took about 15 hours to make something good enough to get the job done for me. Then, I started supporting Sense 2.5 months before it was available for my device. I've received less than $500 in donations. So, there is virtually no money to be made here on xda. $500 for 100 hours. 5000+ users of the app I wrote. Desire for profit is kind of frowned upon here by some. Personally, I don't frown on it.

It's basic economics. I have tons of things that i should work on at home. But, if I work on something that I like to do and get money for it, then I can pay someone to do the things that I don't like to do. But, if I don't make any money at it and don't get the things done, then girlfriend that I live with will not be happy. That inevitabley makes me unhappy.

Making an app that is usable by others takes alot more work than making an app to satisfy your own needs.

Wish there was a better way to make and receive general donations at xda. I think if there were something to distribute money to devs that produce and distribute on xda, then alot more innovation would occur.

Personally, I think this SDK is very cool, and probably was alot of fun to develop. Seems like a boat load of potential. But, integrating it with an existing app for which you don't have the source code for is going to be difficult, if not imnpossible. Apps, will likely need to be written from scratch to use it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TKETZ196:
@JVH3

Do you think you can send me links or resources on how to write programs? i would be interested for the fact i would like to do this on my own time. I would like to get resources from a developer rather than doing my own google search since you would probably know better what would be easier for me to understand and learn from. I know people go to school for this stuff, but i would like ot take a whack at it, maybe eventually i can try to play around with this SDK and see what i can cook up.

i am sry if you took any offense to my previous post, if there was any. I know most of the people on here are developers/enthusiasts who know how ot write apps. I dont have a clue, but would like to learn how to do it easily, and i can understand it. In regards to this SDK, the only i need, other than a knowledge of writing apps, is Visual Studio (does it matter if it is 2005, or 2008, or 2010?) i have a WM 5.0 device & that i want to write the apps to support this OS version and above.

Hopefully somebody on here did write something with this SDK so we can see what the app(s) would feel like.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JVH3:
I didn't take any offense.

Actually, I think the developers are in the minority here.

Most people will have dot net compact framework 3.5 at this time. To develop for that, you need Visual Studio 2008 Professional.

Yes, the Windows Mobile 6 SDK will not install with Visual Studio 2008 Standard. Thank Microsoft for that. It's about $200 more than standard.

If you are fine targetting compact framework 2.0, then you can use Visual Studio 2005 Standard. Yes they used to support it with Standard.

But, in Microsoft's infinite wisdom:rolleyes:, then completely removed the ability to develop Windows Mobile apps from Visual Studio 2010. Apparently doing this in advance sine Windows Mobile 7 apps need to be developed with Silver Light.

I originally purchased VS 2008 standard and found the hard way that you can't make windows mobile apps with it. Then I purchased VS Studio 2008 Professional.

There is an open source development environment available. I have not used it. But there is a thread dedicated to getting the Windows Mobile SDK to install with it.

Windows Mobile 5 SDK has the same requirements as Windows Mobile 6 SDK,

Prior to November, I used my work laptop to develop all my apps. But, then I decided to actually get my own copies of everything, so they could not claim any ownership to the things I made, if I were to make something that really took off.

If you do get set up, and have some questions, I would suggest posting them in the dev section. If you don't receive responses, feel free to PM me. There are several little differences when targetting windows mobile. You only have access to the compact frameworkm not the full dot net framework.

Well good luck, and hope this helped.

[EDIT]

The free open source dev environment is Sharp Develop.

In http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=635226 there is a link to it and instruction on installing the Windows Mobile SDKs.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Raudi1:
I'm lucky I'm still a student and can get VS 2008 for free. And by the time I'm no longer a student, I will probably already be using Android, so there should be no Problems with having to pay $200.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JVH3:
Just make sure to get the professional version, not standard.

2008 standard does not work for window mobile development.

I first wasted money on standard before buying pro.

Another option is the ISV through Microsoft (Independant Software Vendor).

You must have a website and have a program that is for sale.

Then for $275 per year, you get the latest and greatest Microsoft Office, along with 5 licenses for Visual Studio Professional.

That adds up fast though.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Raudi1:
I got the professional version from dreamspark. I've also already programmed some things for winmo. I could even install it on my netbook.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Truenash:
If someone makes this a Windows 7 application so I can use it on my Asus T91, I will love you forever.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wutske:
Same problem here :(

Can't just host it somewhere you can download it without having to register ?

I'd realy like to test the rotate to exit app, could you host it on XDA please ? :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] anaadoul:
Hi,

Well there is no need to register as the website uses Facebook or Gmail authentication.

To access the website,click on login from the right "Quck Links" and chose the authentication method you like and you are done :)

apologies for the inconvenience
[Windows Mobile Software Development] HCDR.Jacob:
Any chance of this coming to Android any time soon? :P
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bimakendal:
nice boss...how to work on my omnia pro b7610?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kain144000:
I've always been one to maintain internet anonymity for a plethora of obvious reasons. Any particular reason as to why you require "authentication", as opposed to just posting a cab?

Besides that, I'd like to say great work. Bringing dual-touch to resistive screens, especially via the method you've implemented, is F*&%IN' GENIUS‼ What was the catalyst, however, because this seems to've been plausible a long time ago — capacitive multi-touch, HTC's zoombar, software that utilized multitouch, or just some random epiphany that'd dawned on you?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zinconnu:
Are there programs using your sdk now? :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Unit ZER0:
An app that could use this...

Here is an app that would benefit immensely from using this sdk: http://fpsece.net/ fpsece is the first, and so far only truly successful psx emulator for mobile devices. I can see a world of possibilities if this is implemented, think of the greater variety of games that could be played!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] smack_exTreme:
is this still beeing developed?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JVH3:
You have been a member for less than 1 month. You have only 6 posts. Change your user name or signup with a different name, if you ever expect to need help.

In answer to your question. Look at the date of the post before yours. If you can't figure out the answer, then there is no helping you.

Just because you can have the offensive user name that you chose, does not mean that anyone with abilities will choose to help a member with an offensive name.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] smack_exTreme:
my intention was never and will be never to offend anyone. my nick was meant as a joke, nothing more nothing less. i appologize to all who find it insulting.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bevoc:
stop being such an ass. rape carries a lot of meaning. just because you have 2k+++ posts doesn't mean you're helping at all. if a screen name can get your panties twisted, then i guess the internet is not a place for you.

@rape_artist,

the sdk i believe is somewhat finished product only waiting for developers to include it in their apps. SDK = software development kit

it is to be used in programming stages while app are being developed. or i might be included in reverse engineered apps where the functions are forcefully inserted.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JVH3:
FWI.

2k+++ posts might not mean much for some users.

If you actually searched for threads started by me, you would see that I have created apps and enhancements that are free to use.

Since the introduction of the Thanks feature, my Thanks meter has reached 40+, where yours remains at zero. This is a direct indication of recent helpfulness.

This doesn't even count some of the other enhancements that I have provided inside existing threads, such as the 4 column mod of the program tab for Sense 2.5

Do you also realize that you responded to a post that is almost 2 months old?

You really should do a little research into individuals before making accusations of their helpfulness.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bevoc:
wow

40 thanks....

who gives a crap about the thanks button? i dont. besides, i dont help people. so i dont care. what i do care is, i hate internet jocks with badges next to their handle saying "40 thanks" acting like GOD... its like those retard goons in their letterman jackets.....

stop being so stuck up. the dude asked a question. dont wanna answer, gtfo. 40 thanks +2k+++ post dont give you the right to be anal about everything. be a bit kind. does it hurt just to answer, what's up your ass?

wow again.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JVH3:
The thanks button was just added to the site about 1 month ago. Maybe 2 at most.

That's a great attitude to not help people.

What makes a person an "Internet Jock"?

And why is it good to hate them?

"letterman jackets"? I didn't realize Dave had made jackets and people were wearing them.

Maybe you mean letter jackets. If that's what you meant, then you are probably some high school kid. Adults don't give letter jackets a single thought. I suspect your bitterness toward those wearing letter jackets comes from the fact that you can't get a date with anyone of the girls that they are dating

badges??? Are you refereing to the 2 stars?

That's 1 star for every 10 Euros that you donate to XDA-Developers.com.

Thanks are given not by the site, but directly by users that appreciate what you provide.

This is a development site.

I still stand by my statement. There is no good way to spin the term rape artist. Rape is a very serious and violent act. Any usage of the word meaning anything other than that degrades its meaning. And there is no reason for me to have any interest in helping someone claiming to be an artist of that.

This is not a smut site.

Go find some other crusade.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] drnessie:
Great Work!

Calm Down!

I have a few things to say!

Glitches & Feature Requests:

I have noticed this with a few Dual-Touch apps, but please make it able to detect a single touch after it has detected a multi-touch. ie, if it jumps back to pos1, or jumps to around estimated pos2

Please add a settings icon, in which you can "callibrate" it, and reconfigure it to suit your screen res and digitiser.

Put the .dll files within the .exe, makes it easier to .cab (I think, never developed for WinMo before)

Other than those three things, I may buy VS2008 just to dev with this :)

PS: The reason I have want a settings applet is because on my QVGA Kaiser, it's not the most responsive. Still works though ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] RPK925:
how to download

i have signed up for the site, but still cannot download. can someone help
[Windows Mobile Software Development] luigioottoo:
Hello Guys, is there this app for Android? Thx!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] fabricioemmerick:
would make it work on android. Best wishes and good job
[General Topics] evilc:
OK, it's about time that I reviewed my email hosting options, I am currently paying $10 a month to exchangemymail.com for exchange 2k3 hosting (200MB mailbox). The main reason I went with that company was at the time they were the only ones I could find that offered postini filtered email accounts for one user only (I use it for my personal phone not just buisiness).

Top notch spam filtering is my #1 priority as I have had evilc.com and the evilc@ email address for nigh on 20 years now so I get a *lot* of spam.

However, since I originally took out the account, google bought postini, and now it seems that you can pay google $6 a year for postini filtering and bolt it onto any email account (You need a domain, which I have).

I am not unhappy with exchangemymail.com's service at all, but I think I can maybe get a better deal now.

So... looking for input on the subject.

Here are some points worth noting:

I currently use windows mobile, but I am maybe getting an android phone too soon, so a system that works well on both would be nice.

I use the same account on my desktop as my phone and I will not change this - it has to be as good a desktop solution as it is a phone solution.

Unification of email / contacts / tasks etc and OTA synching of these is vital. With my current system, I can enter a contact into outlook, pick up my (untethered) phone and the contact will be in there within seconds. I want to keep this.

I want the push email to be as real-time as possible. None of this every 5 or 10 minutes rubbish. I hold conversations via email, so it needs to be fast.

I am not hugely happy with the desktop exchange solution, it takes ~2-3 mins to load up outlook, and I have to enter my password too. However, I am not a huge fan of web interfaces for email / contacts etc.

I suppose it doesnt have to be postini spam filtering, but it needs to be really, really good.

Not looking for super cheap / free solutions from tiny outfits. I want to sleep sound at night knowing that my data is safe. (Yes I know about the google / sidekick fiasco but that isn't the norm for google)

I am in the UK, so hosting in places where the exchange rate is favourable makes sense ;)
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] pl@cebo:
Hello

I have:

Samsung Omnia II

WM 6.5 (Build 21856.5.0.65)

PDA : I8000NXXII9

CSC : I8000DBTII9

PHONE : I8000XXII6

I have Omnia 2 (win mobile 6.5 + SPB Shel3.5.3)....

When someone calls me, I dont see callers name, just number (its like Samsung is over ruling the contact manager of the SPB shell)...when I call out, from SPB shell contact list, everything is just fine.

And, also...when I press Call button, it opens Samsungs call log and not SPB shell`s.

What can I do!?

I also can not set ring tone for a contact...it still rings the same melody as for everyone.

Thank you....
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] RBRiddick:
Go in Programs/S2U2/S2U2 Settings and activate Caller ID.
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] timv7777:
What is that? S2u2 ???

:( What is that? S2u2 ???
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] pl@cebo:
Ringtone for contact

Hi

Hello

I have:

Samsung Omnia II

WM 6.5 (Build 21856.5.0.65)

PDA : I8000NXXII9

CSC : I8000DBTII9

PHONE : I8000XXII6

I have Omnia 2 (win mobile 6.5 + SPB Shel3.5.3 + PhonEX) and I can not set a ringtone for a contact.

I tried everything, diferent files in diferent places....but in the end, it still rings the same as for everyone.

Please help me.​
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] barriedog:
Might be the PhonEX program? Not sure...

But try opening contacts at bottom of screen>Click on a contact> then bottom right tag to edit contact>should see "set ringtone".

Hope that helps.
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] pl@cebo:
Already tried that...no luck
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] anshkhanna:
Spb ms 3.5.3

I have a different problem using SPB MS 3.5.3 with my Omnia Pro...its too slow and laggy. SPB MS 3.0.1 is way better.

Anyone have any tips on how to improve the speed on this???
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] Phantom1275:
This is weird. I have an Omnia 2 with SPB MS 3.5.3, and everything works like a charm (in fact I'm very happy with that interface).

Have you tried to uninstall and reinstall it again?
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] pl@cebo:
Yes...at the moment, I have a trial version of SPB Shell 3.5.3...

I wrote to the guys from SPB and even they dont know how to handle this.

Wright now, I would be happy if I could set the rong tone for the specific contact...but even that doesnt work....

I already did a hard reset (format)....

I dont know what to do....
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] jeetu1981:
spb ms 3.5.3 is working great on my O2, but ise almost half of the ram, but its ok for me
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] zen kun:
imo use phonex, pretty nice and worth it, just for 3MB of ram ;D
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] Freduy:
Hi, anyone knows how to put picture of contact when the 3d mail comes up? i have photos on contacts but it doesn't show up with the 3d mail.
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] mrfrog:
I use SPB MS 3.5.3 and it works well. :D I agree it takes a lot of ram though. :(

Mr Frog :cool:
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] basildon:
I have more free RAM with SPB MS 3.5.3 (50MB free after 1 week) then with Samsung Widgets (30MB free after 1-2 days):D
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] jebise101:
i get 70MB after boot and 60MB after 1-2 days. Using WAD@ now and get 67ish after 1-2 days
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] qquixx:
i just installed this on my phone. however, i lost the threaded sms feature when i'm using sms from spb home. is there a tweak i can use to get the threaded sms back?
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] basildon:
Windows threaded SMS (CHAT)

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled to 0

originally is

1

SoftReset

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext\DLL\ to htmlnote.dll

originally is

mms.dll
[Omnia II Themes and Apps] qquixx:
thanks basildon. the tweak worked.

by the way, is there any other tweak that I can set, I wanted to change the threaded sms to the samsung one. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Cloudyfa:
Cloudyfa ROM for LEO

Cloudy 1.8

===TMOUS compatible & ANDROID friendly===

​

Cloudy 1.8 [20-Sep-10]:

- Com2: OS 5.2.21916 Build 21916.5.0.95

- Com3: OS 5.2.23138 Build 23138.5.3.9

- Manila 2.5.20183025

- Opera Mobile 9.70.36027

- HTCMessaging Client 1.8.20183727

- Secure Box and VIP messages fixed

- HTCLockScreen (C3) bug fixed

- New SMS Search function (in Manila Message tab)

- Replace TaskManager (C2) and ArkSwitch (C3) with MMTaskManager 2.1

- Updated all packages

- Many improvements

...

Cloudy 1.7 [24-Aug-10]:

- Com2: OS 5.2.21914 Build 21914.5.0.93

- Com3: OS 5.2.23130 Build 23130.5.3.8

- Manila 2_5_20182814

- HTCMessaging 1_8_20182814

- Opera_Browser 9_70_36023

- RSSHub 2_1_2_1117

- All new pkgs from OBOE 1.02 and 1.03

...

Cloudy 1.6 [03-Aug-10]:

- Updated all packages from Huashan 0.90 - 0.93 - 1.00

- HTCMessaging_Client 1_8_20173127_00

- GoogleMaps 4.1.1.1

- New HTCLockScreen (Com5)

- Adjust CommManager buttons

- Increase Android compatible

...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Cloudyfa:
Download Links​

Notes:

- LEO_Cloudy_x.x_C2: COM2 build - Most reliable and bug free, has the Start Menu button at the top left corner.

- LEO_Cloudy_x.x_C5: COM5 build - Much more finger friendly, has Start Menu button at the bottom left corner and big softkeys.

- LEO_Cloudy_x.x_C3: COM3 build - Nearly the same as COM5 but this is the offical HTC build in latest devices.

Cloudy AutoInstall​

How to use:

- <SDCard>\AutoInstall\Manual: CAB files that require user input

- <SDCard>\AutoInstall\Storage: CAB files will be installed on SDCard automatically

- <SDCard>\AutoInstall: CAB, REG, XML, PROVXML, MSCR files

Notes:

- At 1stBoot, it won't install anything in <SDCard>\AutoInstall\Manual, and auto reset your device if something has been installed.

- It won't run if your Battery is low (below 15%) (except you use external power)

- You can manually run it in Tools\Cloudy AutoInstall
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Cloudyfa:
Addons​

All Opera Mobile versions

Remove HTC TaskManager

Setup Live Mail account manually

How to have iGO working in WVGA

Change default PagePool

Disable HTC Messaging Client SMS sent notification

Full ringtone, alarm package

Full EzInput XT9

How to change Manila languages

New LockScreen for COM5

Set X button to close app for COM5

Enable/disable COM5 text mode

RSS reader in Manila Home tab stop working

Windows Marketplace

Cloudy AndroidLoader

Manila Home RSS removed
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] arifqur:
Hi CloudyFa,

Been a big fan of your work from over the Touch HD forum.

I too recently upgraded to HD2 and have been trying out different Rom's.

Would flash your Rom as soon as the download completes.

Good Luck
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
welcome to HD2 cooking :D always nice to see another chef come aboard the hd2 train.

if you need anything just send me a PM :)

G
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] PepsiM:
Does this have a fixed flash exposure time (for the camera)?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ilovepiaggio:
Nice to see you in Hd2

Can you add Opera browser

Thanks