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[Nexus One Android Development] RinTinTigger:
Just 4 feedback:

after i installed the 800mV BFS, it is really necessary to wipe the battery stats and RECALIBRATE the battery.

im now running nearly 1 week and a half on it, and yesterday i had 12 hours with 48% battery left, with average usage....allthough listening 1hr to musice while gaming (in the train :) )

Very good work on that kernel!
[Nexus One Android Development] intersectRaven:
1 WEEK?!?! WTF IS THAT?!?! IS THIS FOR REAL?!?! I created the kernel and even I'm surprised by this! :p
[Nexus One Android Development] vegetaleb:
I think he meant he is using it for a week as a kernel not as a battery cycle!

Lol it's not a SE k800 after all :D

We could barelly reach 3 days till HTC fix the display hunger
[Nexus One Android Development] intersectRaven:
Ok...just really stunned reading it as is. :p
[Nexus One Android Development] intersectRaven:
Update!

20100507_17XX:

- updated to latest cyanogen commits

- turned off profiling as per latest cyanogen commit

Here're the links:

20100507_17XX:

BFS:

800mV -> http://www.mediafire.com/?bawjlmlwykw

925mV -> http://www.mediafire.com/?jgzgqlyyzt2

CFS:

800mV -> http://www.mediafire.com/?go2eryj24rz

925mV -> http://www.mediafire.com/?nmmmttztgnm
[Nexus One Android Development] bewA:
Joy! :)

Just flashed over the 800mV CFS version :)

Are you playing with JIT on any of your kernels?
[Nexus One Android Development] tamsomlao:
:) good job man ^^ i pay to you a beer thanks for your rom from france
[Nexus One Android Development] intersectRaven:
I played with JIT before but found it unstable with my games so I removed it. :(
[Nexus One Android Development] L10nH34Rt:
Damn! You have us flashing twice a day now? :p

Anyway, these past two days your kernels have been giving me wondeful battery life (using 925mV CFS kernel).
[Nexus One Android Development] intersectRaven:
I can generate kernels much faster now since I learned much about git and integrated it into my maker script. :p Also, cyan has been updating his kernel base so I must also update mine. :p

*Also, this would be my last update for today since it's Friday night so I'm going out drinking. I wish Paypal had a credit card or ATM or something so I could use all your contributions immediately. :p
[Nexus One Android Development] schahr01:
There is a paypal credit card, I guess it's not offered in the Philippines :(
[Nexus One Android Development] ibegary:
Was getting 2% idle drain on the 800mv CFS with very light usage (even some users on here said that it was out of sorts). Switched to 925mv BFS and getting much better life.

I'll post at noon my results and then probably load the newest version. ;)

Thanks!

To those users who are asking if you should use CFS or BFS: If you use Helix you may want to keep going for CFS. If you use the normal launcher you may want to go with BFS.

Just my observations.

BTW, someone posted that you need to try multiple kernels to see which one works for you? I second that statement.
[Nexus One Android Development] mtw4991:
13 hrs 15 mins and started with 96% and down to 76% with 6 hrs idle. Right on the money at 1.5% per hour drain with light useage. Overnight idle drain was 1.14%. 925mV CFS pmtest 0505_1138 kernel. Nice!
[Nexus One Android Development] Docmjldds:
Sheesh...I just installed 2.6.33_AVS-925mV_CFS_20100507_0852.zip and wanted to read the rest of the posts, before diving in and testing. No...I would NEVER complain about quick updates ;)

Downloading now :D
[Nexus One Android Development] mtw4991:
Question for those NOT using Helix Launcher...

Are you seeing better performance or better battery life using BFS over CFS?

I'm using CFS and happy with it, but was wondering if BFS was faster,snappier, etc. I tried it last week and didn't have problems, but didn't notice much difference either.
[Nexus One Android Development] ibegary:
I'm not using HelixLauncher at all and I definitely noticed a more snappier response with BFS. I've also noticed that my battery life has increase dramatically.

The only time I noticed that CFS was better than BFS (as far as responsiveness) is when i'm low on Battery and I have the CPU MAX set low (384/245).
[Nexus One Android Development] mtw4991:
Battery life was better with BFS than CFS?
[Nexus One Android Development] THATTON:
There have been some interesting discussions over in Persionsown/Pershoot's kernel thread about whether or not SetCPU is helping out battery life. Some are saying that uninstalling it has actually increased battery life. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I always thought that logically it would increase standby time if set to 245/245 as well as having the ability to select the conservative profile that has been included with IR's kernel... What do you guys think?
[Nexus One Android Development] ibegary:
That's correct (atleast in my perspective).

Here's the noon summary:

Kernel: 2.6.33_AVS-925mV_BFS_2010_0506_1459

Unplugged: 7:30AM - 100%

Current: 12PM - 95%

Time Elapsed: 4.5 Hours

Drain Per Hour: 1.1% Per Hour (IDLE)

Very much idle usage, no phone calls, couple of SMS, 5 to 10 minute browsing/market usage.

Background Data/SYNC = On.

Brightness = Auto.

Will flash newest BFS after lunch.
[Nexus One Android Development] mtw4991:
IMHO, I have tried uninstalling SetCPU to see if it did and then reinstalled it to set the profile and governors and get info from it and I'm not seeing any increase\decrease on IR's kernels. However, I have turned off ATK auto-kill feature and that seems to have help some. The idea is that Android will manage the background processes just fine without help and by killing them, they still come back when invoked by other processes and use more power/resources/etc to come back up than just leaving them running but idle in the background.
[Nexus One Android Development] mindfrost82:
I honestly think I get better battery life without SetCPU. I do use App2SD and I believe SetCPU gets installed to my SD, not sure if it makes a difference or not.

I've been using the 925 CFS kernels, I haven't really tried the others. I've used the same SetCPU settings as other people have and I think I get some extra battery life with it uninstalled.
[Nexus One Android Development] mtw4991:
Ummm...I got 1.14% idle drain overnight on the same CFS kernel, so it appears they are very, very similar when idle. Over 15.5 hours w/ light-moderate usage, I'm seeing about 1.8% drain per hour which I think is awesome!
[Nexus One Android Development] Chahk:
Currently running 2.6.33_AVS-925mV_CFS-pmtest_20100507_1736 and am seeing the following in logcat from time to time:

W/BatteryStatsImpl( 137): Couldn't get kernel wake lock stats

I don't remember seeing that in previous kernels. Is this something to worry about?
[Nexus One Android Development] Bay Harbor Butcher:
Please,can you explain what does ##XX means?

20100507_17XX What is 17xx?and what are 08XX, 14XX-15XX etc?

Which version 925mV should I install in my Nexus?The 17XX one?
[Nexus One Android Development] schahr01:
The XX is standing in for minutes past the hour, 17xx = sometime during 5pm
[Nexus One Android Development] schahr01:
I don't think setCPU is exempted from showing up in battery stats' list of applications that use resources. I have never seen it there so can I assume it uses little to no resources?
[Nexus One Android Development] Bay Harbor Butcher:
Ok..releasing time..ok,thanks..so I need last one,today version at 17XX.

Should I turn off wifi before flashing kernel?
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
Those of you using 925 and getting better results, is it with or without SetCPU?
[Nexus One Android Development] mtw4991:
With SetCPU here...1.1%/hr idle drain and about 2%/hr during usage. How much better can it get? I don't need 60 hours of usage as my N1 came with a charger:D:D:D:p
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
LOL which kernel exactly?
[Nexus One Android Development] mindfrost82:
I don't think the debate is whether or not SetCPU uses more resources (I don't think I've ever seen it show up in the listing either), but its whether or not SetCPU throttles the CPU speeds more effectively than letting the OS/Kernel do it by itself. I've honestly never seen any dramatic benefits to using it and I seem to experience better battery life with it off/uninstalled.

When using it, I would use the same settings for speeds as most people and I would use Conservative or Powersave for Standby and it still seemed to drain the battery faster than it does with it turned off.
[Nexus One Android Development] schahr01:
I see. Worth a shot. I admit, like most people I just installed it (along with N1Torch :D) once I got root. I'll uninstall it and test - I'm all for reducing complexity.
[Nexus One Android Development] ibegary:
After my last post, I updated to the latest BFS and had a major drop in Battery Life, 5% in one hour.

So I flashed back to the previous that I posted earlier.

don't know what exactly is different between the one I was using the latest Non-PM BFS version.

I'm going to stay on the older one for right now, its working good for me.

Thanks!
[Nexus One Android Development] ratson:
you shall try AutoKiller and get rid of those 'task managers'
[Nexus One Android Development] THATTON:
So, I'm gonna take your word on this and uninstall my "task manager" and set Autokiller to Optimum. We will see how it goes.
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
Just installed latest 925 CFS and will see. I also uninstalled SetCPU and am ending tasks via advanced task killer widget. 925 always did bad for me so we shall see.
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
925, no setCPU and losing 4% over 1.25 hours with moderate usage. Bring SetCPU back on board to see how that goes.
[Nexus One Android Development] hondaguy:
is there any way to use one of these kernels without the audio boost? speaking on my phone while using a bluetooth headset is virtually useless when i use a kernel with an audio boost hack. not all, but most kernels give me this issue. using the stock rom and kernel is fine, it is only when i flash to a different kernel that i have issues where people complain that they cannot hear me unless i transfer the call to my handset. i am on the phone for an hour per day and almost all of it is done while driving so i need to use a bluetooth headset.
[Nexus One Android Development] olavjunior:
Is this sipposted to work on any rom?

I tried this on the Kang-o-rama, but helix just fc on me, both the 800 and the 925 V. Does this just work on cyanogen??
[Nexus One Android Development] dictionary:
Unless you do exactly the same things, for exactly the same amount of time, starting the phone from the same temperature it started at before, in the same area with the same coverage, you'll get skewed results anyway. You had an amazing kernel before, stop being so battery crazed. You have a phone with a 1ghz processor, what do you expect? You were at like 17.5 + hours and still had battery life. What are some of you seriously trying to get out of a 1ghz phone? You make comparisons to other phones, but none of them have the same speed or power that yours does. I don't understand why people are so silly
[Nexus One Android Development] dictionary:
I'm willing to bet you're using the BFS version? Try using the CFS variant. That should work fine for you.
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
No no no. I understand. I had a great working kernel. What I CANNOT understand is why putting the SAME kernel back on the device did not yield the same results with the same usage. My tests are very methodical and, therefore, my usage WILL be nearly identical with my non-setcpu and my setcpu testing. I understand I'm not going to get miraculous results. I said originally that even on KMOBS when I first got great battery life, I did a Nandroid backup thinking "I SOLVED IT! I DID IT!" but even doing a nand restore I couldn't get it back. It is weird.
[Nexus One Android Development] B1ny:
Re: [Kernel - .33.3]intersectRaven's Kernel (new Hybrid AVS *Stable*) 05/07/2010

It isn't, and nobody seems to care. I amongst others, have been complaining about this since they started to use this crappy useless audio boost. I have to use another phone to make calls with :(
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
Even with SetCPU, losing 3.5%/hour with no usage on newest 925. Anyone compared PMTest vs. standard?
[Nexus One Android Development] dictionary:
Fully charge, shut off, wipe stats, let charge, Power up. That always solves it for me.

@the post about audio boost .. we are just lucky that these devs decided to share their kernels with us. While it works for me (the audio), so long as the dev doesn't feel like taking it out, they are in NO way obligated to do so. They can do as they please. Sucks, yes, but we have to live with it. Now, considering that there is tons of information out there about how to compile your own kernel, and his source is open, you can gladly create your own. I'm sure if you were trying and ran into some problems, intersect would help you out.
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
Do you do this before or after flashing the kernel? I actually DID do this.
[Nexus One Android Development] mtw4991:
2.6.33_AVS-925mV_CFS-pmtest_20100505_1138

I've tried most of the kernels that IR has put out and this one is the bees knees...20 1/2 hours and 59% left with light to ocassional moderate usage.

I'm not sure I want to try any more kernels:eek:
[Nexus One Android Development] dictionary:
After flashing the kernel, or after you do a nandroid backup
[Nexus One Android Development] mykenyc:
lol damn i should have stopped while i was ahead now my battery draining quick as heck. dang lol.
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
+1

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[Nexus One Android Development] hondaguy:
who DEMANDED that the audio boost be taken out? i simply asked a question and someone else stated that they have the same issue, thats it. if people dont make comments about performance how will the devs know what is working and what isnt, especially considering that everyone uses their device in a unique way?

i am sure intersectRaven would let us know if he is offended by the questions
[Nexus One Android Development] mykenyc:
dude I'm going to try something out this is weird but i think on enom when i enable dalvik cache on /cache my battery dies quicker i know this may be far fetch but I'm testing now.:confused:
[Nexus One Android Development] schahr01:
Which kernel?

Edit: Nevermind - I missed the post title.
[Nexus One Android Development] hondaguy:
So just to make sure I understand your post, you are insulting me, calling me narrow minded, because I didn't demand changes to the kernel but others have? You are a credit to this forum. Let me be the first to thank you for taking the time to show us how smart you are.
[Nexus One Android Development] arjay88:
So once it says IRs kernal in the phone settings, it means it has successfully flashed? What are users performance like with the latest kernal?
[Nexus One Android Development] mtw4991:
(1)Yes, it the kernel string says IntersectR it was sucessfully flashed.

(2)Congratulations, you only have 225 pages of reading to catch up....:eek::D
[Nexus One Android Development] olavjunior:
You were absolutely right! :-) Sweet!
[Nexus One Android Development] Docmjldds:
NOT using Helix Launcher here. Better performance by far with CFS. Extremely better battery times with CFS. Just downloaded 2.6.33_AVS-925mV_CFS-pmtest_20100507_1736.zip but not installed. Currently have 93% battery and over 7 hours since plugged in. 1 1/2 hours of music and GPS app running tracking a workout period earlier today. Uploaded a couple of Jpgs with mobile facebook. Some lite browsing 30 min or so. Answered approx 5 txt messages. 3 short phone calls. I would say moderate use and 93% after over 7 hours is just can I say "godly" :eek:
[Nexus One Android Development] Docmjldds:
For consistency here, I routinely flash with WiFi off. I also make sure that I have 100% battery charge and then some before flashing. This way I feel I get consistent test results as far as battery times for starters. I haven't decided to go as far as wiping bat stats or caches. But I am sticking with CFS versions, based on my prior tests of what works for my setup. Best for anyone to decide for themselves, IOW what seems to works for some, is horrible for others. There is a general consensus that CFS versions are more stable, as of now. Doesn't mean one or the other is better for you. (PS...I haven't had any problems flashing with WiFi on, BTW)
[Nexus One Android Development] Docmjldds:
Everyone has priorities. I fully understand that BT is important for your situation and that audio boost is killing functionality WRT "your needs". But, for example, my needs are I could not use speakerphone while driving before these new Kernels with audioboost came out. I mount my phone in a docking holder in my car. I use the GPS driving app a lot. I also could not hear callers when on speaker phone before the boost. For me, it's night and day better now. Quality of audio at times is not that great, but at least I can hear a phone conversation, driving directions from Google Navigation, etc. Plus many of my audio MP3's or Lossless/flac files were to low when listening, even with ear plugs or headphones. Now, I keep volume at 3/4 when using my N1 working out listening to music. I guess, sooner or later someone will come up with a modification that makes everyone happy. Just trying to add my side to this equation. Hope you don't mind. I do not call this useless, IMHO.
[Nexus One Android Development] Docmjldds:
+1

But...it keeps getting better. I hear the twilight zone theme song as I type. I can remember my stock setup running out of juice after 5 hours, when I first bought the phone. I had severe buyers remorse initially for giving up my iPhone. Sorry for slightly off topic post.
[Nexus One Android Development] Docmjldds:
<<(2)Congratulations, you only have 225 pages of reading to catch up....

Hilarious :D
[Nexus One Android Development] timothydonohue:
omg, Docmjldds, i gotta tell you, incorporate your postings into a single post, please. every time you have posted up lately, you have multiple posts in a row on a single page, it makes no sense. address everything you need to address in a single instance, PLEASE
[Nexus One Android Development] intersectRaven:
Just woke up and found that I seem to have deleted my entire repository on GitHub for no apparent reason last night and reforked cyan's source...I really should limit my drinks... :p
[Nexus One Android Development] timothydonohue:
LOL! never!
[Nexus One Android Development] wildmonks:
Lolz, I thought that was weird when I saw that. Kinda sucks though after all that work you did, resetting your GitHub the other day...
[Nexus One Android Development] intersectRaven:
Yeah. Anyways, probably drank one bottle to many. :p Anyways, I still have the local source and the work source so I could patch it up in a jiffy. :)
[Nexus One Android Development] superg81:
is the wifi still working on latest update.zip or will it need a push?
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
Can anyone comment on experiences with PMTest vs. Non-PMTest? I had 3 hours of moderate usage (a lot of texting/e-mailing/30 min of calls) and lost 10%. 3.3%/hour I guess isn't that bad with usage but standby time does seem to be better on the latest CFS 800. Still bad results from 925.
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
I ALWAYS push the bcm4329 before flashing the kernel.
[Nexus One Android Development] superg81:
i cant get adb working so no pushing for me
[Nexus One Android Development] arjay88:
got a feeling sicne putting on the latest kernal its been using more power, was full batt now its down to the 70s, been running the phone on now for 4 hours, just been youtubing, apps, no call making. Ill keep it on and see how it goes.
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
For some reason after 93%ish, it started dropping fast... I don't get it. I'll keep an eye on it but it is weird. What are everyone's SetCPU settings? Has anyone also noticed that the Juice Defender widget shows a different multiplier amount based on kernel? I.e., when I had the 925 on, it was like 3.6 and now, with 800, it is showing 2.4ish BUT i get better battery on the 800.
[Nexus One Android Development] sir*mez:
Are you guys wiping battery stats before flashing 925mV? I did and that helped out a lot when coming from 800mV.
[Nexus One Android Development] S_Dot:
Battery discharge isn't linear
[Nexus One Android Development] amolin32:
But do you have installed SETCPU or JUICEDEFENDER? Or similar? It's incredible this battery live!!
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
Not sure what you are implying. I didn't USE the phone. Sorry if I didn't clarify.
[Nexus One Android Development] b1337:
phones use battery power!!! i think u just need to get over it, put on your big boy pants and actually use your phone for what its worth and not just using it to test batteries...seriously....its a phone
[Nexus One Android Development] hah2110:
I very confused. I didn't TOUCH my phone for an extended period of time. Not to test the battery, but because I didn't need it. Looking at the battery graph, it WAS 1%/hour and then it magically dropped to 3-4%/hour with no changes, no open apps, etc. Jeez.
[Nexus One Android Development] b1337:
no one is going to see the same battery results from the same kernel, usage varies, coverage varies, stressing the phone varies etc. and since intersectraven updates almost daily whats the point of telling everyone your battery woes when you and most of us r just gonna flash the next updated kernel and then deal with the new additions/etc. im just saying your posts are getting redundant and maybe your efforts and stresses should go towards another direction in development
[Nexus One Android Development] intersectRaven:
Oh dear...it seems that cyanogen deleted his pmtest branch so I can't regenerate my pmtest branch from that. Is there a considerable demand for that type of kernel? If ever I'll patch in the pmtest branch from the official Android experimental repositories. :confused:
[Nexus One Android Development] wildmonks:
I can upload a copy of your pmtest branch to mediafire. I literally downloaded it from GitHub like hours before you deleted it. Its still untouched in its tar.gz archive. :)
[Nexus One Android Development] B1ny:
Re: [Kernel - .33.3]intersectRaven's Kernel (new Hybrid AVS *Stable*)

I have been using every one of the pmtest kernels since you started with them, and they don't seem to do anything for me. At idle its the same ~1% when I am stationary, and ~2% when I am mobile losses.

And at usage it drains like crazy anyway, so I had planned to switch back over to the normal ones from today :)
[Nexus One Android Development] intersectRaven:
No need. I believe the pmtest branch from the official Android experimental repositories would suffice. :) I just want to know if anyone wants it.

I see so that's one against pmtest. :)
[Nexus One Android Development] wildmonks:
I only started using suspend blocker today so I can't say this definitively, but at the end of the day, I've notice no difference compared to wakelock. (1% per hour drain)
[Nexus One Android Development] sir*mez:
Pmtest didn't yield any flood results either. Like every kernel 1% drain but when actually using it, I get massive drain. I'm using the normal 925mV cfs kernels.
[Nexus One Android Development] Infin8cyn:
I realize in part this is unrelated, but in every CM kernel I try akmd is still shown in top as using far more cpu cycles than other applications constantly. Searching around this seems to be a recent change and a complaint that's up and coming. I've seen other users complain about it here as well:

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=665471&highlight=akmd

While it's usage should remain consistant at least, I feel it's still a constant unnecessary drain on the battery that shouldn't (and isn't) there in the stock rom.

My apologies for interjecting my possibly unrelated lurking comments.