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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Not sure why Bing would crash, runs fine on my Touch Pro so maybe its a ROM issue.

As far as going open source, the code is way messy right now TBH, it will probably be cleaned up next release but I'm not sure about open sourcing it, as that's just begging for people to rip it off and take credit for it.

Slide your finger up across the screen.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ernonewman:
Re: Delete these files

Thanks for the reply but I looked for them and then searched using Total Commander and those files don't exist on my device.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] token2k6:
wow, well I'm not going to be one who hates, but it is simply breathtaking! thanks Jaxbot!! why do I need a WPS7 phone when I can just get the theme :)

We almost need a proper tutorial or guide on what everything b/c I'm clueless and doing things at random, haha

Ran good on my Tmo TP2 stock 6.5 except for the same bugs / glitches everyone else is talking about.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] anarchyuk:
really good work Jaxbot, might pop it on the old topaz tonight,,:cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surfacing8671:
hey great work jaxbot! this theme is awsome and i know ur feeling great about it.

ok so i have this running on my pure and i have used it for around a day. the speed is OK with the animations but not great. it can take some time to get the peoples hub to load up. but the tiles do move off the screen smothly with no lag. the only thing is that the tile removing(if u would call it that) animations pause when u touch the screen and continue when u let go. not a big deal but i feal as if the device notices the touch input using system resources that can be used to make the animations smoother. i have no idea if that even matters at all but i thought id mention it.

also the photo hub barley works. when i click it, it only shows 2 photos and not all of them this is kinda anoying.

text overlaps in people when scrolling through names. i think that the scroll field should be bigger and not start a third way up the page.

also do u think it would be better if you turn off sense or something like that. when i run this theme it just feels like it should not be used on top of sense but rather temporarily replace it or something. i just think that would make it faster. i dont know though. im not a developer but a programmer with no knowledge on this kinda of stuff. i will however be making some live tiles! oh and an internet tile would be nice. the search is cool but i want an opera launcher. also i am pretty sure that the application launcher doesnt show everything.

good luck man! you have a solid start there that can be great.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dIFEO:
Hey. Its a quite nice software you've done here. but, something is bugged. My english sucks, so excuse me. But anyway. This is the bugs on my HTC HD2: Laggy software, actually everything lags. Next page to right is buged. But anyway man. Great software, Great start, Keep the up the good work <3
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Omega Ra:
Okay, I have downloaded beta 2 and don't really see any difference from beta 1. The bottom two live tiles show me nothing but white...how do I get the weather there? still no back arrow to allow those of us with no back button to get out of the people hub/bing search etc...and up/down scrolling still slow and words overlapped.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ihavenolife008:
awesome work man. very much like the way your approached this by making it its own thing and not using a "skin" for something else. Played a bit on a i910 Omnia WQVGA and worked pretty well. Looking forward to seeing what you can do with this. Will gladly help with any testing, just drop a PM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chiks19018:
Awesome work Jaxbot.

One sugesstion:

Rather than flipping the tiles on the home screen, I would love if they popped out from nowhere to fill the screen.

That would be neat. and would not make the user feel "slow".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Omega Ra:
for those who can't get out of bing and such.. I discovered if you map a button to be ok/close it works as a back button. I am now able to get out of the people hub and bing...still no weather though...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
For people without Weather working, make sure you are online BEFORE opening the theme. Otherwise, I'm not entirely sure.

(Psst, anyone wanna donate to help me get an HD2?)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] trueadm:
Just out of curosity, what graphics API/library did you use to render the graphics? DirectDraw, OpenGL, GapiDraw, GDI+?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
GDI+ (hence the fact its so slow)

EDIT: The fading animation is done with a Windows Mobile API (part of coredll)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Omega Ra:
tried opening a data connection and it still didn't work. just blank white squares..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Can you post a screenshot of the Settings form?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Omega Ra:
how do I take a screenshot? do I have to install SKTools again?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Alright thanks, whats the full address for Live Tile 1 and Live Tile 2?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Omega Ra:
http://windowsphonehacker.com/livetiles/weather.php?zipcode=08817

http://www.windowsphonehacker.com/livetiles/twitter.php
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Alright, it's not a URL problem. What device is this? What ROM?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Omega Ra:
i920 Samsung Omnia 2 for Verizon. With a custom ROM from yardi over at modaco. Windows 6.5.3 (23533) and I have XTask installed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Good news! I got my hands on the Device Emulator for WP7S, so I have a closer look at what the layout is for the phone, and can make this theme more realistic.

Expect something new on the usual Friday night/Saturday morning ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] housefan:
Wow cool application! :eek:

It works good on my QVGA Device- although it only has 300MhZ.

I hope there will be further versions.

;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Casey_boy:
That'll be awesome. My hopes are all on you Jaxbot - now that MS have said no to the HD2.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daytonow:
good job .~~~~~
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daytonow:
CHN to EN

Very beautiful, qvga can also be used, but have a few questions:

1. The use of the process, easily lead to collapse of the crash.

2. Up and down sliding around, the speed is very slow.

3. Does not support Chinese path.

4. Program icons are not displayed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kioevad:
great app, works in an ipaq 610

some crashes and after define values in settings, the app crash and must redefine everything.

but honestly a great app, i hope the scrolling performance be better, and add more hubs.

more integration of the lock screen (signal intensity, battery,change the image )

calendar and agenda hub

good work!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
I think that code is for Silverlight and WP7S, but yes, I know how to run the accelerometer. I just don't see a use for it at the moment.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HTimC:
I was looking for this kind of theme! It crashes at my phone after I was playing around. Looking forward to a better version! =D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Phone name? More detailed problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] riotburn:
Ok again something im sure you've seen, but in case you havn't http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff462080(VS.92).aspx

Show to make tiles for the actual windows 7, maybe the method can be translated to your php method?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hedgemeist:
Good App But . . .

I like the app and good work.

However I did find the following things I didn't quite like:

Tiles seem to go a bit funny when scrolling (flash and change size?)

Text Tile takes me to email

Secondary menu list titles get truncated

A little sluggish when scrolling

I'm using it on HD2, new to all this only got it last week!

Good work, dude.

Hegde
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surfacing8671:
i am getting the same problem. but mine is random sometimes it works sometimes they are white. the only thing our devices have in common is XTask.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Although the background is changable in settings (for the lock screen), what default image would you guys like to see?

I wanted to use the one with the girl and the ice cream cone, but I can't get just that image (too much text)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vader165:
something more generic i think... maybe a nice landscape. actually yeah, a nice scenic view (maybe from windows 7 for coherence)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Casey_boy:
On the HD2, you need to enter the settings (long tap the black strip on the right hand side) and change Text variable to Messaging_Client it will work then.

@Jaxbot, I also think so nice scenic picture would be good. Is it not possible though to find the original file in the emulator?

Casey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Good idea, I'll check the dump.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xma1e:
Running on HD2 6.5.5 Energy ROM

Hi J

Good app, will be interersting when complete. I would suggest concentrating on improving what you have done already rather than adding new features. At the moment it is not usable on a daily basis.

scrolling through the list of programs in the program launcher page, doesn't work very well. Each program names scrolls indipendantly of the text around it and often I scroll through the list and when I click a program, find than the scolling hasn't yet finished and I end up hitting the application next to it.

All People isn't very finger friendly. the second row of text in the persons name is overlapping the next contact. also having to scroll through the entire list to get to a contact is painfully slow. Zack, Zelda, I'm never going to call you again!

Looking forward to the next release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Thanks for the feedback. I have some work to do with the kinetics, but also, I'm hoping to fix the features I ran out of time to implement, namely the lookup by letter, and the individual contact screen.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TKETZ196:
this is really cool. i applaud your design and effort. understandably, this is a beta and i can see performance issues. is it possible to improve stability and performance for lower end devices like mine? i have a QVGA and would like to see if it is possible to utilize this skin as a full UI replacement.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbezja1:
yes i agree. you have done alot for the start and improving these would be amazing. i also have HD2 and it all works smooth except for the bugs common for all devices. it is an amazing placeholder and proof of concept and i really really want WM7 when i see this =)

in what language do you write this? is is just a local php "website"?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] michi.housefan:
Like mention some times before it works great on my phone.

And i only have a QVGA Phone with 300Mhz Processor.

Good work! :)

The only problem is a message i get when going to the

Settings -> Your language is not supported or so. :confused:

Sorry I don´t know the message exactly because now i have

a HTC like skin/programs on my phone.

But this app will be great i think! :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shellexecutor:
Actually It's wp7s_config.txt.

The file is located in the root dir on my device (installed WP7s on internal storage)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Right, thank you.

Got a lot going on at the moment, so I'll have to push the next release into sometime next week (sorry guys).

But I assure you, you'll like it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] grahamkdt:
Oh yes!

Superb! Keep up the great work. Really looking forward to the improvements... I like what I see ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Sorry to keep you guys waiting, it's been a long week.

Here's some new screenshots, I hope you like them!

http://windowsphonehacker.com/jaxbots_wp7s_theme_new_screenshots_4acf5.php

What do you think of the new locked screen background? Of course it's changable, but I want the default to look nice.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Casey_boy:
Just had a look at the two screenshots...

I like the contact page - though, perhaps, instead of a back button a back arrow button (i.e. the one you already have in the app) would be better?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Good idea.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wtanis:
do you think this will work on the palm treo pro (sqvga)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kwill:
Good stuff JaxBot. Cant wait for new release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Try it, but I don't think so, as that is a fairly old device.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aayush3009:
looks great! what about adding backgrounds to the different pages? anyways great work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
I'm trying to stay true to WP7S, with a few minor improvements.

That being said, the different hubs will have backgrounds :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Casey_boy:
Hey jaxbot,

Any ETA on the next beta? Would like to see how this is coming along - but I know you've been busy!

Casey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Good to see someone's waiting with enthuasism. :)

The next beta version should be out by this Friday, I hope. It's midterm week at school, so it'll be a bit busy, but I'll try and set a deadline, since you've been waiting so long.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
i'm a student too, and study comes first, we can wait (not too long though:p)

take your time;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mazzarin:
Someone took apart the WP7s bin and found some wallpapers you may be interested in:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=649753
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Thanks! Was looking for those.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Omega Ra:
so how is the v2 coming along? I know school keeps you busy (I am in school myself) just curious to see how things are coming along.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
It's going good... no major bugs (which tend to slow things down).

Though, I must admit, it's been a while and I've almost forgotten what needs changing!!! So I'll have to add it to my EverNotes and go through this thread bit-by-bit ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Alright, I want to add at least one new hub, just so this version doesn't end up as more of a patch and less of an update.

Some I'm thinking I'll do a games hub, but I need some ideas:

-Do you want it linked with Xbox Live? I don't have Xbox Live, so I'm not entirely sure how to pull data from it.

-Is Steam/XFire integration ok?

-What games should be included? Does anyone have icons for these games?

Also, I'd like some testers before the big release (again) :) PM me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acidbath5546:
Just shot you a PM....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Received, thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Alright, thinking that I will either link it up to XFire or Steam. Any thoughts about this?

Also, anyone know where I can get icons for common Winmo games (eg Teeter) ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] welki1979:
Steam integration would be very nice although you could make it within the HUB and allow people to add their own tiles (using your tutorial) for things in there...like a 'games homescreen'.

Dunno about the icons, see what other people say, but personally I feel that they could do with some updating to a more 'Windows Phone 7' style...again maybe using tiles
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TKETZ196:
So i tested this UI finally, and i have to say i am impressed with it so far. I just wish it was speedier with the scrolling with the programs list and the contact list. i have a QVGA Device with WM 5.0 and overall it was snappier than i thought it would be. Hopefully in the Peoples hub, i wish that there will be a soft back button as my device does not have a hardware back button.

I applaud you that your work is amazing. i know that it will get even better. Is there a way the UI can start automatically?

Also, is there a way you can do index scrolling in the programs and contact lists? Not sure if it is feasible or worth the effort, or have a A-Z list on top so that when i touch a letter it will jump to that letter with my contacts on the contacts list.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] policemanz:
you can put the .exe file in the /Windows/Startup folder, works for me
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Putting the EXE or a shortcut in the Startup folder will work, yes :)

As far as the index list, I'll see about adding that in the latest build.

And there will be software back buttons added next build, too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] magawa:
no its very very fast on omnia i900 using my coocked rom

edit : I have alot of .net cf messages and am using the latest one on my roms
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mweave:
Just downloaded this for my xperia and will try it later, many thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Finally got the build out!

Download it from my website here: http://windowsphonehacker.com/wp7s.php

Make sure to remove all files from previous version, espacially the wp7s_config.txt file located on \wp7s_config.txt!

There's lots of information there now about the theme if you haven't been following along.

If you have, here's the changes :)

-People hub now has Favorites

-Can pin people to main screen (see long-tap on right side->Settings)

-Improved contact screen

-Texting screen w/ custom keyboard

-Speed improvements

-Bug fixes

-Splash screen with my website on it (Stop stealing my cab, n00bs!)

-Treats on the Text Tile (see for yourself!)

Ready for your criticism and bug reports, all :)

Coming up next:

-Office hub

-Games hub

-Pictures hub

-Etc
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PayAndDie:
Just downloaded V1.1b and it always crashes :S first I didn´t have installed NetCF3.5. After installing it, it still crashes but for another reason. on the top it says frmSplash. And it says that it couldn´t connect to a network at the end.

Edit: : I can´t get it working.. have reinstalled it but it still crashes :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Note to EVERYONE:

If you've used a previous version, delete ALL files starting with wp7s_ on your device's root (eg \wp7s_config.txt)

And yes, you will need .NET CF 3.5, and a working data connection, preferably enabled before the app is launched.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Casey_boy:
Small bugs

Jaxbot,

Here's a list of small bugs:

People Hub

"Favorites" - the first add button is incorrectly filled. When a contact is added the picture is misaligned.

To go back to the main menu - could a left-right scroll be used?

If not, I think the back arrow should be above the favorite icons

When scrolling through to all contacts; the favorite people icon separator lines are very jagged.

The scrolling movement from favorite to all leaves behind a thin strip of the favorite icons on the left.

When scrolling through the all contacts list - can you fix the position of the main page? i.e. prevent horizontal movement?

No contact photo is displayed when you click on the contact (note: I am not signed into Facebook, but the contact has a local image stored on the phone which is shown up elsewhere in the app).

Bing Search Page

Keyboard animation is still quite slow (though better?)

When the keyboard is brought up it covers the back arrow - thus the user cannot go back!

If the user presses the backspace button when there is no text in the search box (i.e. before typing, or by pressing again after all text is deleted) an exception is thrown and the program has to be quit

Strange bug, that when the above exception is thrown, when tapping on the screen the keyboard keys can still be brought on the screen.

I would still like to see a cache for the bing image - should speed up loading of the app?

Program List

Some of the program names are still cut short

Can you include icons?

General

Start menu is still jagged in scrolling

Could a signal strength meter be added? (There is the ability to get this info from the registry)

Casey
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Great feedback, as usual, Casey :)

I'll work on the fixes.

The Bing cache sounds like a good idea, as does most of the other suggestions.

About icons, I would need specially made icons themed for Wp7s. If someone can get me those, I'd implement them.

The signal strength meter is added, only on the lockscreen though.

I'll put it onto the other screens, too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Casey_boy:
Ahh, yes. I'll have a look around. I know that there are a few icons sets - not sure if they're any WP7S icons though.

Yep, the one on the lock screen is fine - it'd be good to have it everywhere where the time is displayed - perhaps also a battery meter?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
New video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9_9K0OWUgY
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] julian2596:
jdhf

something is wrong when i try to start it up on my new hd2 it keeps crashing when i start the new windowsmobile7series theme update1.1 plz fix
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] juliuscezar:
Have you tried Jaxbot's note on Post # 151?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PayAndDie:
I´ve flashed different ROMs to run it so the older files should have been deleted.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Strange... What exactly does the error message say?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] solihu1:
It seems it cannot work if you are not connected. I use Atom Exec and it works on it but only when I am connected. I hope Jaxbot can remove this condition in the next release. If the phone is not connected the software should wait until when the phone is connected. Also, one can still not scroll with up and down buttons.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
If the phone is not connected to data, the data should be automatically kicked on.

Since this is not a skin for WAD, PointUI, or ThrottleLauncher, it is not meant to act as a LAYOUT. It is meant to act as an application that has features similar to WP7S.

Of course, we lose performance in this process, but we gain features that other themes simply cannot offer.

However, I will see about caching the data the theme needs to start, to hopefully allow it to start without cell reception.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] doodoo28s:
I get an error message when starting the app V1.1b it says: wp7s.exe IndexOutOfRangeException

Any suggestions? It wont start.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PayAndDie:
Yes, thats exactly the same error message I get when I start it with internet connection.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
I believe the problem has to do with trouble downloading data from Bing's servers. I'll make sure to add that to the exceptions list next build.

However, to be sure, can you copy the entire error message and paste it here?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] neo13500:
FeedBack

Great start Jaxbot, but.....

I can't say now that app could be use for a day, just playing with :

1 To start i must turn WiFi on, in 3G data connexion my phone freeze, or i have an error message about FaceBook API sometime.

2 For me ( custom ROM on Acer NeoTouch ) sms and Email go to same link and if I change this in "Settings" ths app stop working. ( I check many time for the good app's like )

3 twice tiles stay blank, nothing to configure links...

4 Keyboard on sms panel is very small 1/3 of the screen, not like on your screen shoot.

5 And to finish, when all goes ok .... my face book contact are not synchronise, maybe i miss one step for that.

So for the good points and change :

Contact list with index is very cool, same for app and game will be perfect.

People panel is great...

Idea for better usable :

- Facebook sync, configurable link for tiles, after launch.

- Panel for differents app ( picture, Music, ect...)

- Interactive Facebook panel ( see and writte coment for exemple, and possibility to add sync contact )

- XML config for the different link maybe could be more simple.

- For tiles could you do like sense UI on internet panel ( just shortcut show a part of the favorits page who refresh when you go on ... )

- A wheather panel, maybe with AccuWeather app

keep on good job !!