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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jinjav:
In theory it should run as smooth on Rhodium too I guess since they use the same kind of core hardwares such as processor and RAM.

The only thing I would guess is the drivers issues with the different hardwares such as keyboard, etc..., but as lhwparis said, the developers do it at their own time.

We just have to wish them good luck and appreciate their effort:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] x10dude:
If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
Im pretty sure that Rhodium Android benchmarks faster than on other native android devices already using Android Market benchmarking apps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Asori:
Not completely true. The SD card is removable flash, the internal storage is just non-removable flash. If you get a fast enough SD card, there's no difference.

Also, Android can be flashed to the internal storage of a device with some cunning through the same idea they are using now (bootloading through Haret). Take a look at the Vogue and Kaiser threads.. :) The devs just have to work on that process, which I'm sure is not as important to them as getting Open GL working 100%, sound, and complete battery management.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] x10dude:
I stand corrected. Thanks. Running Android of SD memory can be just as fast.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Hamsteriel:
Exactly. When you buy your next SD card, shell out the extra $10 or so and get a class 6. You won't regret it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ikari87:
You mean, if only you get a very fast SD card, the whole system, including all animations and click(touch)-processing latencies will be as fast as on devices running Android natively?

I want to clarify that, since I thought it just has some serious driver underdevelopment issues (like opengl, which is widely used by it) or some kind of slower debug build. On my phone it runs about two-three time slower than on a phone with native android (and lower cpu clock, but much lower screen resolution as well)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
What are you comparing your phone to? Don't look at a Droid X or an EVO dude. You have to compare apples to apples - about the closest native Android hardware to our phones is/was the HTC Hero. So that's our benchmark basically.

With that said, there probably is some software improvements, but getting a higher class SD will definitely help as well. I heard boot times are probably the most to benefit from higher class SD - don't expect miracles tho, there's definitely still some things that need optimizing - I think at present the devs aren't exactly sure what those things are ;)

Once the major bugs are squashed certainly the focus will then be more on stability, performance and battery life. We've gotten quite a few battery fixes lately, hopefully performance will be next on the docket :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ikari87:
I was comparing it to the nearest phone I could touch, ZTE Racer ;-)

Racer has a 600MHz clock (okay, i thought it was slower than 528 (AFAIR) of TP2) and a pretty ****ty screen ;-). But that's not one of those 1G Snapdragons.

I wish TP2 ran Android like a brand new phone one day... ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] thanantos:
Having owned and used an HTC Hero and Samsung Moment I can tell you that the vanilla version (non-overclocked) of this build is about the same speed as the Hero. The overclocked version is faster than both when running on my class 6 card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] LDGator:
No Crystal Ball & No HTC Help

The issues are drivers, drivers, drivers and null assistance from HTC. With little more than the technical docs of the Qualcomm processor shared by the Rhodium as well as native HTC & other manufacturers Android devices the developers are nothing short of being friggin amazing. It's a lot of hit n miss trial n error and we the users are the beta testers.

My initial goal of being one of many beta testers was to see whether Android is a viable replacement for my WinMo device especially in light of Microsoft's direction with WP7.

HTC is helpful to XDA developers when it helps sell current devices. Unfortunately HTC in their shortsightedness fails to see the benefit of a successful Project Android being the springboard of many to a purchase a new native Android HTC device.

So will we have drivers, drivers, drivers to make the Rhodium as good or better than a similar hardware native Android device is a question no one can answer definitively when or if ever. For the time being, I like other beta testers will avoid phone calls like the plague, but nonetheless will have enough hands on to make an educated decision whether Android is right for them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gor420:
I dont know

My setup of Android seems to be working pretty good minus a few small bugs. Main bug I would say is battery issues. All in all mine is damn quick,and definitely faster than the winmo on the device. My winmo is trim and pimped out but still runs like a turd. It's reliable but slow. My ole lady has the Epic Galaxy S, and it is indeed fast and smooth with particularly vivid color (amoled), but I am gaining a new appreciation for my TP2 again wth Android. My screen looks pretty sharp as well. I am bouncing back and forth from winmo to droid often, but I can manage to stay in droid for long periods and not miss a beat. Waking up to my new rooster alarm sound ain't too shabby either.

I am a stickler for response speeds, and winmo out of the box blew just like it does on computers. Linux has never let me down, and now neither will droid. I would like to have a way in droid to check my 10 different email address' and not just gmail, but I'm sure there's a way. Windows' ideas are ok but their performance/quality has always just been farts upwind.

One thing some people don't think about is the apps and stuff they choose to run and the things they do on their phone, but at least android attempts to warn you of the access the app is being granted on your device before you install. Phones today have cameras, mics, speakers, communications, GPS, and a G-sensor. The only thing they can't do is taste and smell (coming soon). All in all though, they are capable of knowing where you are, where you've been, what you say, and what you look like as well as possibly being remotely controlled. Enjoy, but beware :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Alcoholic:
The only thing holding us back is the slow GPU and the resistive screen.
[Wing, P4350 General] underthewronghat:
So I got some fun startup sounds, and some nice gifs I wanna try for the opening splashes, but researching the matter on these forums, I can only find a registry edit to disable the tmobile splash and sound.

I tried redirecting the registry entry to a new wav file in \windows... Nothing.

Looking further, it looks like it will only play a _specific_ file. I tried changing the name of the file (so I could replace it with my cool sounds), but I think it's a ROM file...

I'm guessing this means I can't customize the startup animations / sounds without flashing the ROM*... Can anyone verify this --is there maybe another registry entry where I can change things?

*I know, ROM flashing = better, cooler, faster --I'm just waiting to get my new phone before I go flashing the ROM on this one.

T-mobile Wing

WM 6.0
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] retroman2128:
While carrying a HEAVY 32" CRT TV my phone fell out of my pocket and I inadvertently stepped on it while wearing steel-toe work boots. The phone seemed to work even though the screen was cracked... I could get the comm manager up and push where I remembered the vibrate button to be and it seemed to work.

I put in a new LCD panel and all I got was a boot sound and a white screen, so I also tried a new flex cable with the same results. I also can't seem to get any kind of reaction out of it like before so I'm not really sure where to go next.

I'd really like to fix this thing but it's not worth putting an arm and a leg into it.

What do you guys think I should try? Anything I'm overlooking or something? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Noah
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
You need to be sure the new LCD is made by the same company as the old one. This is ESSENTIAL. See this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=485961

In particular my post no 4.

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] retroman2128:
Thanks for that tip, but both LCD panels seem identical except for the stickers, but the model numbers on the stickers are both the same. One has a larger print than the other. The number on both is TD028STEB1, and they both have a black ribbon cable.

Hmm. I just noticed. The old LCD panel says P/N 60H00037-01M and the new one says P/N 60H00037-00M. Even though these are both the Toppoly LCD panel could this mean they are incompatible?

Thanks,

Noah
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
Well, I think those two are compatible (bith Toppoly). So assuming the new one is ok as a replacment it leaves a couple of possibilities I think:

1

The connectors need to be re-checked.

OR

2

in the worst case scenario there is damaged to the d/pad board. A chip on the d/pad board is crucial for the functioning of the screen. Unfortunately this chip can be prone to micro fractures in the soldering between it and the board. (Even with normal button pressing many members have had a "white screen because of this cracking). Some members have found that putting a little padding on top of the chip to push it against the d/pad board can be used as a solution. (I think though, that this should be vied as a temporary solution).

Just my thoughts.

Mike
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rorytmeadows:
I'm trying to develop a Mortscript to Turn off Manila/Sense and KEEP it off until I click on the script again. The problem I'm having now is that it just restarts right after killing it. Ugh. What am I doing wrong?

Here's the script

# Toggle TouchFlo 3D

bool = ProcExists("Manila.exe")

If (bool)

RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFL O 3D","Enabled",0)

Kill("Manila.exe")

If (NOT WndActive("Desktop"))

Show("Desktop")

EndIf

Else

RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFL O 3D","Enabled",1)

Run("Manila.exe")

EndIf
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rk73:
For me its working with RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\HTC Sense","Enabled",0) i and so on instead of "touchflo" but of course it depends if you got Sense or not.

Working great with Manilla 2.5 and Mortscript 4.2 for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] andrew-in-woking:
This works

Hi

I have attached my script in a .zip archive.

Cheers

andrew-in-woking
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rorytmeadows:
This works perfectly! Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rk73:
your script should work as well if you change touchflo to sense.

And you could just write:

"

bool = ProcExists("Manila.exe")

If (bool)

RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\HTC Sense","Enabled",0)

Kill("Manila.exe")

Else

RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\HTC Sense","Enabled",1)

Run("Manila.exe")

EndIf

RedrawToday

"

Many ways to do the same, Mortscript is a very nice little app.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lapingris:
Hi guys

I decided to get [ROM][WWE][9.Mar.2010]Leo lite 2.10/1.66 base (5.2.21895) 576 ram and got HSPL along with the 2.07 radios for use with 2.1

But I thought I could install the radios after flashing the rom, and now it wont boot up..

Is it bricked? Is there any way I can repair this?

I'm so worried right now :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leoni1980:
Take battery out, hold volume down whilst booting to enter bootloader. Connect to pc, install correct radio. You may need to drag the .nbh into the same folder as customruu. copy customruu.exe from rom you downloaded if you dont have it included with the radio you download. you need the .nbh and customruu in same folder.

Then just run it and everything will be super.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alesscam:
what radio have you flash???

rom with 576 Mb request radio 2.07 on higher,

but not last radio 2.09
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leoni1980:
If I read this right he hasn't flashed the radio at all so has a generic ROM radio. Its not a critical problem by any means and his phone will be up and running in no time.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lapingris:
fantastic, thanks alot :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alesscam:
then to be enough a sofreset :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dazusmaximus:
Thank You

This just solved my problem also. Thanks dude.

Daz
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faisalee:
HD2 is extremely hard to brick but one you get it right, it gets as hard as a brick lol!

No seriously, as long as one can boot the HD2 in the "boot loader" mode (RGB color stripes) one can recover from any situation known to mankind :)

Cheers and enjoy your HD2

Faisal.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fishegg70:
hey :) im so new to this there is everychance i will make my hd2 explode, although i am taking heed of everything i read, i seem to be having problems simply installing 'radio 2.07' so that i can install android froyo, which im yet to establish where to get it from :), ive updated my spl and all is ok so far. THe radio file i have is RUU_signed.nbh and i just installed hspl3 which worked grand ^^. the nbh radio file however, isnt recognised by either my pc, or my phone :/ really sorry if im asking dumb questions but i have come this far without asking one and im not coming up with anything with regards to the installation of the radio file :/ cheers for help if you can .
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ClydeB1:
First, confirm that your spl is now 2.08.hspl (check in bootloader mode)

Next you need to flash the new radio file to your device. Read this - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609477. You need to either have the ruu_signed.nbh file in a folder with the CustomRUU.exe and then run the exe or else rename to LEOIMG.nbh and flash via the sd card.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sinontroy:
tks a lot bro... you made my day... really apreciate it..
[HD2 General] Playa4Life352:
So I just got my T-Mobile HD2 and I was wondering if that TP2 Visual Voicemail cab was the same one that's included in the HD2?? If not, how can I extract it from the stock rom?? Thanks
[HD2 General] Playa4Life352:
?????????????????
[HD2 General] hiddengopher:
its on the hd2.
[HD2 General] lbhocky19:
i asked in the tmobile forums didnt get an answer.

does this cost extra?
[HD2 General] atlaswing:
it was free for the TP2, as long as you had the correct data plan, ie the $30+ one. i think you had to go to mytmobile to select it, and the option would only show up if you had the correct plan. i couldn't add it, since i had tzones and vvm was not worth losing my current plan.
[HD2 General] Playa4Life352:
The reason I asked is because I flashed a cooked rom and it doesn't have the visual voicemail built in. Can I use the same cab as the TP2?
[HD2 General] Playa4Life352:
Nevermind, I have confirmed it's the same cab for HD2 and TP2.
[HD2 General] djdant:
I know, but if i flash another rom on it i will lose it. Using TMOUS BTw
[Nexus One General] onurd:
Can I use the normal root procedure/how-to for the Tmobile Nexus one for my new AT&T nexus one? What is the best how-to?
[Nexus One General] martin0285:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=rooting+the+nexus+one+XDA

READ READ READ READ READ READ
[Nexus One General] elite_is3:
bump, can the original T-mobile procedure be done on the NEW ATT nexus? or does a new method have to come out?
[Nexus One General] mudrock1000:
Have you tried the link in this post? Duh. Best thing I've ever read ;)

That being said is this, try unlocking the bootloader first and go from there. There is no way that could brick you're device.
[Nexus One General] jankyboy:
Seems to work the same

Yes - I just bought an AT&T Nexus One and was able to unlock the bootloader, install Amon_RA's recovery image, and then flash Cyanogen's 5.0.5 ROM the same way in which I did with my T-Mobile Nexus One.
[Nexus One General] AbsoluteDesignz:
some of you people are serious assholes...sometimes a yes or no question is best answered with a yes or a no.
[Nexus One General] ericc191:
Sometimes a little common sense goes a long way.
[Nexus One General] anosis:
The ATT version Google Nexus One uses the same OS, so no there is no difference in rooting the phone with the existing guides. The difference is the hardware that allows to operate on the ATT UMTS frequencies.

I used the same instructions as are posted here at XDA and MoDaCo with my new ATT 3G Nexus One and had no problems.

Rooting and changing the rom had no impact on the 3G reception which is on par with my current Tilt 2.

BTW, I did read a lot and it took me a while to get everything straigh since the rooting procedure is quiet different than what you would expect from HARDSPL'ing your WinMo device.
[Nexus One General] elite_is3:
awesome!! i may try it out this week
[Nexus One General] onurd:
Simple questions require simple answers

Thanks. I agree with couple of the previous posts. This is an almost $600 piece of hardware and the unlocking procedures were described for the Tmobile version. Since the hardware is different (the radio rom might be different as well), we just wanted to know whether we could use the guide for the tmobile version for the at&t version without bricking the phone. That was it. And, again a "yes" or "no" would've been a lot easier than posting a google search link. Anyhow, thanks to others who actually answered the question.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Rooting doesn't TOUCH the "Radio ROM", as you call it. More importantly, if all you wanted was a yes or no, YOU COULD HAVE POSTED IN AN EXISTING ROOTING THREAD!

Stop cluttering up the forum and ask a Mod to lock this thread already.

Just for reference, the upcoming Sprint/Verizon versions will be rooted the exact same way.
[Nexus One General] GldRush98:
ITT: People who have NO business rooting a phone, are.
[Nexus One General] martin0285:
See the problem is the question was answered. You can't say you "Read around alot...." and not accept that a simple google search would have found the answer without the need to start a new forum. Another problem is, you prob actually clicked the link before realizing what it was. If you did, you really should NOT have a rooted phone anyways. Just my two sense, sorry for being an "asshole" I suppose....
[Nexus One General] mbranscum:
The real problem is that there are too many mod wanabees in this forum.
[HD2 General] b737:
Hey follks, did a serach on the forum here. Didn't seem to find what I was searching for.

Basicaly, I'm giving serious consideration to getting the HD2 when released US March 24th.

I'm a pilot for a major US airline. Unfortunately, the folks that programmed our computer access to our scheduling program; used old technology to do so. Mainly, every frikin page or link you click on, causes a pop up window.

Also, if you can't do a double-click on the page, it won't load that page at all.

So, my questions to you HD2 users.

How do I turn off the Pop Blocker in the HD2 so I can get pop up windows with our ancient scheduling program.

Also, with the double-click stuff. Do you know of any program I could load on the phone and or browser, to emulate a double-click with just a single tap.

Any info appreciated. I was in the T-mobile store recently; just to test if the HD2 woudl work on our scheduling access website. I can get into the main page no proble, once logged in though; the damn pop up blocker screws everything up for me.

Just want to test the phone's capabilities out before commiting.

Thanks for any assitance.

David
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
you probably used opera in your test? In opera (well in 9.7 anyway) click menu - advanced - and untick popup blocker
[HD2 General] b737:
Thank You. Will give it a try the next time I'm at T-Mobile.

In Opera mobile, I'm guessing the Menu is located with in the browser itself? Sorry, haven't used Opera before.

Thanks again.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
yea, in the browser, bottom right soft button, cant miss it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] NICEGYPT:
hey guys ... i don't know if this the right place to post my topic . i have a mytouch 3g and i want to sell it , cuz i want to back to wm and this my post on ebay

Mytouch 3g on ebay
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] NICEGYPT:
the phone still with me ....
[TG01 General] alexq:
It puzzles me that my TG01 boasts a healthy sounding 256MB of RAM, but often all that is available when all apps are terminated is no more than 80MB free. Having a look at the background processes, these seem to account for about 40MB which would suggest there should be about 200MB free at worst! What is all the "spare" memory preoccupied with? Is there a utility that will give a breakdown of how the RAM is allocated?

Why is this a problem? Because, more often than not, I get an error using Internet Explorer that there isn't quite enough memory to run Adobe Flash.

:)
[TG01 General] souljaboy:
dont use IE lol ... IE memory managment is one of the things they fixed in 6.5.3 ... when i had 4 tabs open in opera and had 35mb free , i started to panic too , but then i opened 14 tabs and i still had 20mb+ free , so its all good , its quite dynamic
[TG01 General] elder T:
A program call CleanRam will help you get more Ram spaces.

Go here for more info :D

http://www.htcaddicts.com/?id=110
[TG01 General] olyloh6696:
Ram Problem

yeah i agree with you! on the htc touch hd, it had 288 mb of ram, and after a clean soft reset and touchflo 3d running, it had 199mb of ram left.

on our TG01 it has 256mb ram, an after i installed touchflo 3d 2.5, i have 58mb of ram after soft reset. there Is so little to use.
[TG01 General] mtwaldman:
This makes no sense

There has to be something we are missing. how do we free up more of this memory? What is it being saved for that we cannot even seeit?
[TG01 General] koity:
Guys wait for clean roms.

I am sure our chefts will cook us some awesome roms soon.

BTW I am anew proud owner of TG01 (no voice calling quality problem.)

Currently with rogers canada :)
[TG01 General] olyloh6696:
even with the ability of flashing clean roms, there still seems to be big problemss with ram. perhaps toshiba sold their devices with false specs?
[TG01 General] souljaboy:
its fine aslong as u avoid the sense roms

and be sure to softreset every few days
[TG01 General] olyloh6696:
good point but sense has good eye-candy :D

what is the ram on a clean 6.5 rom with titanium?
[TG01 General] kevinpwhite:
Memory:

Storage: In Use – 38 MB Free – 224 MB

Programe: In Use – 118 MB Free – 87 MB

Per my 6.5 'clean' ROM - link in signature below....
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Old MuckenMire:
I figured with all the smart folks that this would be the place to get an answer. I'm one of those who is missing a couple paid apps from the market. Not a HUGE deal but I want them back at some point. Anyone here know the real deal?

Here's a link with a little more info

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=25b86f2ce5166c3c&hl=en

I looked for a thread around here but couldn't find one. If there is one please direct me there and apologies if this is has already been posted.