[Hero CDMA General] cammel8:
Ok I understand your cranky, but maybe you should give a person the benefit of the doubt before assuming they are an idiot. Remember what they say, when you assume you make an ass out of you and Uma Thurman.

So I rooted my phone on Friday. I then proceeded to download every rom on the site, and see what all there was available. I'm guessing the same thing everyone does when they first root it. By Saturday morning, after reading a bunch of stuff on here, I decided I was going to do My own mods to the rom. Yes the others out there are nice but they are not mine.

The first thing I did was to make My own animated boot screen (I decided on a naked pink female android instead of the stupid green one that comes stock. So I worked for hours and hours on that. Finally got it all done, uploaded it and it didn't work. (Come to find out the program I was using to make the GIF, "Easy GIF Animator", which I use for websites all the time, was putting extra stuff into the header that the HTC didn't know how to deal with. Just use gimp to make it and you are fine.) So now I have a working animated boot sequence of my own. (All from searching.)

Out of all of the themes I had seen done so far, I really liked the Aloysius because of the way the launch bar was made. I wanted to do that. So I researched some more and found out how to edit the APK files in the framework so I could change stuff. So I went about changing all the stuff I wanted to change. The Icons, the little Icons at the top, the buttons on the bottom. Anything I could change.

Yeah me, I have a bunch of stuff now that I can make an update file with so I can update my phone. I throw it all in a file, name it update, and flash it, but it won't work. After some more searching I find out that I have to sign the file before I can update it to the phone. This wasn't an issue before with the boot screen so I search find out how to do that and, wa la, I have a new theme all mine. (All from searching.)

So then I decide, well everyone else is adding and removing files, couldn't be that hard, so I did some searching and what do you know it isn't hard at all. So I added the programs I always have on my phone, and now when I flash it, it is all ready to go. Wee, now we are talking. (All from searching.)

Then I start playing with some of the apps, and realize that any app that sends out an sms by itself wouldnt send text messages. (IE: sms bomber, SMS my location, wavesecure) the program acts like it is working but then doesn't actually send the message. So I do some more searching. Come to find out Most of the roms on the site have stuff removed. It must be one of the apps removed or settings that were changed has something to do with it. Worked before installing the rom, don't work after installing the rom must be something in the rom, that or something I did to the rom afterward. So I do a fresh install of Aloysius and add sms bomber and it won't work. Must be Aloysius. (some from searching some from trial and error.)

So I decide I am just going to get the original rom, since I don't need any of the stuff in Aloysius because I have replaced most of it with my own anyway, and the apps I like in it, I can just add myself. So I search and search for a Virgin rom. Can't find one anywhere. Figure well maybe I can just pull the rom from my phone by copying the directory structure. So I re-flash my original backup and try pulling the files that way. I get them off the phone, add them to a zip file, name it update, and put it on my phone and go to flash it back to see if it works. Epic Fail. After searching some more I find out that you have to have a script to tell it what to install and where so I learn through searching how to make a update-script file, throw it in the META-INF folder in its right place zip the two folders up sign them and put them on my phone. In case you were wondering it didn't work. come to find out, after doing some searching you cant do that. Maybe I should have searched that one before just jumping in on that one. Eh, live and learn I guess.

So I search and search for the not so ever present virgin rom. Apparently, if it is out in the wild, it is a well hidden secret cause I can't find it. (still cant) Finally after hours and hours of searching, I give up and ask for help finding it. Yes thats right I asked for help. Well that ask didn't exactly garner me a here is a link just follow it and you can download your prize. No instead I find out that it isn't out there. Not in rom form at least.

There are ones that are close but nothing completely virgin. Why waste my time on those when They might have something I need removed and I don't even know it. Finally ABCDFV tells me its in the RUU in the Rom file Packed into an IMG file. Not exactly a rom but close enough that, I'm guessing, it's the closest I will get. So now All I have to do is unpack it and be done with it. Yeah me. I have unpacked stuff before this should be a synch. Mind you that was at 2 pm.

So I use every program I can think of that are used for opening IMG files, and none of them work so I search the internet and find butt loads more, but they don't work either so I do more searching and find out that the IMG files that are packed in the roms are special and can't be opened in the normal ways.

So after more searching I find many tutorials on how to unpack the files but all of them are in ubuntu. Well I'm running windows 7 so that won't work. I search and search and can't find a windows program to save my life so I reserve myself to having to use Linux.

I go to my back room and find an old 700 mhz computer, download ubuntu, and install it. Get all of my files, take them to the other computer, and start reading the tutorials. This is when I realize that I have no freaking clue what I am doing in Linux. Sure I have played with it but I don't use it like this. I get to the first command in all of the tutorials and it says type "gcc -o unyaffs unyaffs.c" but not one of them say where to type it. (come to find out it's in terminal. would it really kill the people that made the tutorials to put that little tidbit itn there. go ahead look not one of them I saw asid open terminal thay just say type this) so I go back and search that to find out. after I finally get that figured out, I realize that not one of these tutorials on how to do this is complete. Sure they might be complete to someone that knows UBUNTU but not to me. After hours and hours of searching and trying and failing I finally get fed up with UBUNTU. That was at about 9 o clock.

I disconnect the computer, take it outside, and shoot the damn thing with my 12 gauge. That's right I shot it. No joke. No it didn't help me to unpack the file. No it wasn't logical, reasonable or even rational, but damn it I felt better. Seeing them little green pieces of pcb flying, and knowing I would never be defeated by this computer or operating system again was almost blissful.

I came back in, and through utter frustration and dismay, haven been beaten by a fricken IMG file I again ask for help. That is when ABCDFV showed me the link to the X86 version of unyaff. Yes, finally my worries are over. I download it drag the system.IMG file to it and it pops up a message. "cygwin1.dll file is missing." You have got to be fu**ing kidding me. So back to searching I go. Come to find out it is a file used on windows machines so you can run Linux programs. I JUST SHOT LINUX AND IT IS COMING BACK TO HAUNT ME, I KNOW IT NOW. So I go to the website for cygwin and wouldn't you know it, there isn't a file like that on their server just an exe file that loads something. Screw it, I'll load it. So I download it install it, which mind you it says will fix the problem. And guess what, it didn't fix it.

So after searching and searching I find a website that has it. Sure there are about 50 gazillion that had it but I wanted one that didnt charge me, or want me to install there stupid program to get it. I get the file and install it.

30 seconds later and I am looking at the ever so hard to find, "virgin rom". Well not exactly. It is not a rom yet but I have everything else I need to make the rom so Might as well be the rom. I make my update-script put it in with it, zip it, sign it and send it to my phone.

I flash it to my phone, the whole time it is going, I'm just praying it will work. Verifying, verifying, Come on, copying files, yes its working! Finished. I can't fu**ing believe it. After everything, I finally have it, my own virgin rom. Yes, yes, oh freakin yes, everything is right in my world again.

Only one thing left to do, reboot phone. I hit the reboot and it blinks off. A second later HTC. A minute later Still HTC. It's ok sometimes when you flash a new rom it takes a while. 15 minutes later still HTC. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FREAKIN KIDDING ME. So I reboot and get the same thing. Apparently there is something I am missing. Don't know what yet, I'm sure something I read will hold the answer, but I sure as sh*t aint doing it tonight.

That is when I came back on. I figured the least I could do was to thank ABCDFV for helping me get this far. That is when I seen your post. To tell you the truth, It pi**ed me off. Where do you come off telling me to do a little searching and I can find it. That is all I have been doing the last three days is searching. and not finding Sh*t might I add. there is a whole bunch of stuff but nothing that directly relates to what I need.

I dont think I am doing that bad either, I have taught myself all of this in the matter of four days by serching. I know people that have been rooting their Phones since G1 and dont know half of what I know now. And I have only been doing it for 4 days. So I dont think I am doing that bad. Especially since I have only had to ask one question and then a follow up.

Apparently you were born with all of the HTC Hero information and never needed to ask anyone a question about it ever, and that is all well and good, but people like me have to ask every once in a while for a little help.

I thought that is what this forum was for.

I am sorry if I am not another script kiddy that is ok with other people making stuff and me just throwing it on my phone and calling it my own.

I am sorry if I don't want to say to someone look what someone else did and I was able to install it on my phone just like your 11 year old neighbor can do to his phone by reading a tutorial or watching it on youtube. (Sh*t I never even thought of youtube. Probly somthing on there I could have watched instead of reading it. Oh well maybe next time.)

I am sorry if I want to do something from scratch instead of using other peoples work.

I am sorry if I want to be able to say look what I did.

Maybe you are Ok with that, maybe you're not, But I sure as hell am not. And I don't know you from Adam. You may be the person that first came out with all of the stuff that makes this possible, or you may be just another script kiddy happy to install others work, I don't know. I am sure after I am done here I will find out, but to do that I have to search and I'm not into that right now.

But next time you want to go off on a rant to someone, maybe you shouldn't assume they haven't done anything, and are just looking for a handout. Maybe you should just help them. Maybe If someone would have said in the beginning of my thread that the virgin rom doesn't exist, and you have to rip it from the RUU and there is no other way I wouldn't have spent the last 24 hours trying to figure it out.

This isn't my first time at a rodeo you know, just my first time on this bull. I am a member of many forums for many different things. And usually people come to me for help cause they are too lazy to search, and I would understand If I would have asked what is a rom an how do I root my phone. Or something simple covered hundreds of times in the forums elseware but I didn't.

Not only did I ask for help with something that is obviously nonexistent or close to it but I asked for a link so I could go in the right direction. I didnt just automatically ask where is it and what do I do with it. I want to learn so I can teach others. I want to learn so when someone asks why won't this work, I can tell them why, instead of "I don't know, it just don't work" I want to understand what I am doing, not just do it for the sake of doing it.

So as far as your crankiness goes, Sorry if I made you cranky, but maybe if you are cranky cause someone wants help, you shouldn't be on a forum that is for helping people. Because it is just going to make you more cranky. Just a thought.

So that is it for my rant. Sorry it was so long but I had to get that out. Now onto what I came here for originally :

Thanks dude That worked Awesome. I had to find a file for it but it worked like a charm. I didnt get my rom to work yet But cause of you I am a Huge step closer. I got it out of the RUU, got it on the phone now it wont boot so I just have to figure out why. but that is for anouther day, Im going to sleep. But thank you for finding that for me. I coulndt find it at all. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!