yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
I had no idea that was in the wrong order, thanks for pointing it out. I'll edit that now! :)

I had to figure most of this out as I was going so i quickly forgot what I did differently. The more people point out the better the guide will get! XD
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nprussell:
Great guide.

Add it as a Wiki... it will not get a sticky!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
Thanks. I love your ROM's and can't wait for the next Villain release.

Already done :) as I figured as much.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
Oh my god!! Im was having an absolute mare!!!!!

Was trying to downgrade the rom,... but HTC Sync would not connect (Part III, no 3), everything else was ok... 1st i ignored it and just carried on, started flashing, phone went into that 'Fastboot' bit where there are the Android thingies on skateboards, but then failed, came up with an error message, then froze. I had to take the battery out!!!

Started up fine though.

So i gave up for a while to stop me from throwing my laptop against the wall!!!

But the missus has just got home so im booting up her XP lappy, thought it might be cos im using Win7 64bit. So here goes again!!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ico86:
question:

i Would like to install a custom Rom on Hero

i have two micro SD cards ( 2GB i 8GB )

1. I would like to use 8GB card for apps and music...

Do I have to create a "Gold Card" on the 8GB card, or can I use the 2GB card to creat "Gold Card"?

2. Durin the installation of a Custom Rom, do I have to put in the phone the "Gold Card" (2GB), or can I put the 8GB card?

And

3. if I want to "roll back" the original ROM, can I do that just simpley by puting in the "Gold Card" and rolling back te rom saved on Gold Card?

THX

(sorry for my English)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
O Windows 7 64-bit needs different drivers. I have attached them here to the original post. I am also on 64-bit but completely forgot about those hassles. Thanks for the reminder.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
1. The gold card is only used to allow you to downgrade (as far as i'm aware) so you can use the 2GB as gold card and 8 GB for music but... (see next)

2. I have no idea, probably best to leave the gold card in and replace it when the ROM is flashed but I don't think it is mandatory. I do however, have no idea how long it is needed for. Just make sure you format the card you're going to use through the phone when you insert it for the first time.

3. If you want to go back to your Orange or T-Mobile ROM from HTC all you have to do is use the latest .exe you get from HTC's support website. Once again it is probably best to format your SD card after first boot.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] thedoccwc:
The only thing that's stopping me from trying this out is the goldcard thing - I really don't want to format my 8Gb card. I could use the 2Gb one from my old G1, but it's going on eBay in the next week so if I needed the exact same goldcard at some point in the future then I'd be stuffed.

I suppose that I'll just have to live without the glory of being rooted for now!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
You could backup the data on the 8Gb card (i.e. copy and paste it to a folder on your pc) then format it and restore any music / pictures etc back to it. Just avoid replacing any old settings files specifically related to the HTC widgets, that is where problems occur.

O i'm also fairly certain you won't need the gold card again unless you go back to the official HTC releases and need to downgrade again and there is no harm to making your 8GB a gold card in the future as you can still back-up and restore the data you wish to keep on it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] mobydeek:
wow nice guide, bookmarked! i spent ages looking for all the info about a month ago.

ive decided that i only really need to install a custom ROM when htc decide not to offer official updates anymore.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] thedoccwc:
No, no, no, you're meant to say something like 'ahh, probably for the best that you don't bother for now then'. The slightest pro-rooting comment is going to have me going for it! Still, it is character building, I suppose. And I did feel much better for having done it to my G1...but can I be bothered to do it at this time of night?!?!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Lennyuk:
but your missing out on so much now :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] chetermaat:
Wrong CID

It says wrong Customer ID.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
That would suggest that the Goldcard hasn't stuck. Try checking that procedure again and if not try the bootloader section in my driver guide.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] chetermaat:
Fixed and works

I used an other SD card without succes.

Replaced the SD with the one i used to make the goldcard with at firts.

when the phone rebooted in RUU.USB mode. i looked up the device manager on my PC. Tho i did changed back the USB driver. The device manager said usb adb bootloader for android. So while still in bootloader

(NOT IN FLASH PROCES)

I changed the USB driver again to the X64 win7 one. And from that moment it all work like a charm.

YEZZZ YEZZZ back @ custom roms again :D
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ChosSimbaOne:
Thx for this guide, it has been of great help to me. I'm looking forward to the apps2sd guide is ready :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
I might add this part into the process permanently if too many people come across it.

A2SD guide is pretty much ready, I just need to copy it in, probably later on. But I ****ed it up the first time i tried so be aware it can make things go VERY wrong :P
[Hero, G2 Touch General] silver_frans:
Do I still need to Nandroid backup?

Hi there, I'm noob here...

after read the instructions, sometimes I got confuse...

Now, my question is... If I follow the guide to install new ROM in my HERO, do I still need to Nandroid backup?

Thanks in advance
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cauli:
It's your choice. The sole purpose of a nandroid back up is to allow you to subsequently restore the device to the state it was in when you made the back up. You might want to do that after trying a ROM you don't like, or you might need to do that to recover from a serious error. I make a nandroid back up before flashing anything.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
This is answered in the FaQ i believe (if not i'll add it and my bad) but a nandroid backup serves no purpose before doing this process. Between ROM flashes a nandroid is probably a good idea, but not before the process itself. This is because it is easy to return to the original state by running your official exe - it removes everything this guide does.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ChosSimbaOne:
Thanks for committing the Apps2SD update. Some thing is unclear for me. Are the apps installed there automatically when i install from market? Can i still mount the phone to my computer if i want to transfer videos, pictures and music?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] silver_frans:
Hi thanks for the reply,

I still confused a little bit.... My phone is still using an original ROM from HTC. So by your statement "a nandroid backup serves no purpose before doing this process", does it means I don't need to nandroid backup? And suppose I want to back/return to the original ROM after flashing to a custom ROM, Do I still be able to restore it (without nandroid backup)?

I'm sorry for asking this, because I didn't see my original ROM in HTC Hero RUU in sticky thread... it's because I buy it in Taiwan, the rom build number is 2.73.751.13, thus I'm afraid I can't restore it and suppose my phone have problems, I can't uses the waranty

sorry for bad English, hopefully you can understand what I mean and help me. Thanks in advance
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
No worries, yes it is done automatically :) and you can still mount as always.

Are you able to access the RRU from HTC's website? Or your carriers? If you are unable to then there is a possibility that you may be unable to return. Though you could always go to a WWE rom, i'm not sure if your warranty would allow for this...

I would recommend you find a nandroid guide pre-root or figure it out if you can. I'll try to do the same if I get some spare time and i'll add the details to the guide accordingly. :)

Your English is pretty good by the way :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nu_skool:
I want to have a mess with some of the custom ROMs, just have a couple of complete n00b questions:

1)	I want to make a complete backup of my phone in its current state so if I decide I want to go back I can full restore the phone to the state it is in now. Is this easy to achieve?

2)	Is it at all possible to brick your phone or can I always restore (even if it is back to factory setup)

3)	I have several apps that I have purchased (eg. CoPilot Live). Will I be able to redownload these from the market place? Out of interest does anyone know where CoPilot stores its favourites so that I can restore them?

4)	I’m on T-Mobile UK. Do I need to change any settings for their Internet access?

Many Thanks. I hopefully look forward to trying out some custom ROMs!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
1) in the faq

2) it is possible (though unlikely) to brick your phone but i have heard of no-one doing this so far from my guide

3) Purchased apps will show up in the market under downloads as "purchased" every time you install

4) Your chosen custom ROM should have your APN settings included, if not find them on the forums and enter them manually
[Hero, G2 Touch General] keridel:
Apps2sd guide worked perectly first time. thanks for this!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ukripper:
which ROM to use?

Thanks for this great guide. Using your guide I've currently finished flashing recovery image on Tmobile uk G2 using goldcard method which worked a breeze. Now i am confused on which ROM to try and checked vallain 5.4 rom is released, would it work on my tmobile G2? What are shortcomings for this rom? As this rom comes with apps2sd could someone please explain do i still have to folow the part in the guide for apps2sd.

Will my bluetooth work properly with 5.4?

Many thanks and keep up the good work.

Android and Ubuntu follower.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] gascanieto:
Villain 5.4 is really good, mind you voicemail notification is not working at the moment. You can try Kimera 1.6 if you don't mind to try an android 1.5 ROM. Have fun, and try them all until you find the one you like.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ukripper:
thanks mate. I dont have to worry about voicemail as hullomail works great for me and i don't use my provider's voicemail. I think i am going to put 5.4 rom now.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] keridel:
i would. i am using 5.3 but will be updating to 5.4 today. and after that the updates are OTA so no more wiping data.

and yes you do need to follow the apps2sd part of this to get it working on villain rom. i set my ext2 to 1024 meg just because i like to have a lot of apps and have 8gig to play with.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] noki@:
A excellent guide which helped me to root my phone no problem and step by step so thanks :p

Only thing is following the APP2SD procedure, how do i confirm that it is working, and that apps are been stored to the memory card.

As when I remove the memory card the app still opens :S

Thanks

OK managed to fix it
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ukripper:
I just flashed to 5.4 rom. All looks good so far. Calls, texts..apps open very fast on hero (not like default 1.5 ). My thanks to OP for this wonderful guide. goldcard method works fine on Tmobile UK G2 even having new rom (2.76.110).

I haven't updated RADIO. Is it worth doing it?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
Just a small note on the A2SD stuff, 512 MB should be easily enough for 99.9% of users as you need to install approximately 500+ apps to exceed this.

It works automatically, i'm going to add a bit about testing that it is working later on but you can pretty much assume it is working!

I might add this into the faq or the radio section but it isn't necessary. if you have no issues with signal and tend not to travel it's probably not worth it but I found it increased my max signal from 2 bars to full and i've found fewer areas where I have no signal at all. I have been unable to confirm whether it affects 3G signal as it is so random.

Glad you all like the guide :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ukripper:
Can you explain how fixed it. i think i am having same problem. Cant see apps installed on SDcard after apps2sd process.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] gmduncanidaho:
Awesome guide, thanks to you I'm now running VillainROM 5.4 on my Hero :)

I have a couple of questions though;

1- Do I need Apps2SD (or does it make my phone work any faster)? If so, where do I find it? I did a quick search and found this;

hxxp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512743

but the disclaimer note kinda freaked me out :)

2- I can't access to paid apps in my country. I thought that would change once I rooted my phone but it didn't. Did I do something wrong? Do I need to do something to enable it?

Thanks a million for the guide!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
You won't be able to see the apps installed as the ext2 partition doesn't show up in windows / android os. I'll put up the test script soon but assume it is working!!!

1. A2SD isn't necessary. If you have a fast SD card with lots of unused space it can speed up app loading times and you get more space for apps. The program is usually included in the custom rom's (check features). If you want to install it on a rom which doesn't include it by default feel free to follow the linked guide (though it might be out of date) but that is not what my guide is designed for.

2. Is this on a custom rom? I would check with your rom developer as this is something I don't have control over.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] gmduncanidaho:
Thanks for the answer

Yes, I'm now running VillainRom 5.4

The only problem with Apps2SD is that couldn't figure out where and which version I should get, could you maybe link to the version you are using? I'm guessing it'd be safe for me since we both are running the same Rom on the same device :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
My point is if it is built into the ROM do NOT install another version! it is automatic! :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] gmduncanidaho:
OK I thought I had to download it but I noticed that it's already on the Rom, now I'm installing it.

I'm going to post the other issue (paid apps) on VillainRom forums :)

thanks again for your help :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ukripper:
All working well on Villain 5.4.3 ROM, OTA updates work without a hitch. Can't find theme updates on there though. Haven't tested Bluetooth so far. Rest is fine. Hullomail works perfectly, so voicemail notification bug doesn't affect me. Connects fine with my ubuntu machine. Estrong file manager makes seemless file transfer via samba with ubuntu machine. Will create few shell scripts to transfer data from sd to my machine in due time using rsync.

Looks like 5.4 is the one i'll be sticking to, for a long time.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] gmduncanidaho:
Thanks to HomerSp from VillainRom forums, I fixed this.

Below is what I did, you may want to add this to your guide;

Go to Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> Market

Click Force Stop, Uninstall Updates and Clear cache.

Download this (hxxp://villainrom.co.uk/download/file.php?id=43)

Place it on your SD card.

Boot into recovery screen (power+home)

Select "Flash zip from SD Card"

Select the file

Confirm

Wait for it to install (took me a minute)

once done, select reboot
[Hero, G2 Touch General] :
The gold card page at revskills.de no longer seems to exist. Is there a way around this?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
I'm working on it, is all i can give you for now.

This is brilliant, but it probably only applies to certain rom's and certain people. If I had a better way of linking/contenting this page I would add everything but I don't think this is useful enough. You could post it up on the VillainROm forums if it isn't already for users to use :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
Hopefully fixed, please test this for me :)

I think i'm the first to get this updated :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Track34:
This doesn't work, you need the full version of the program.

Comes up with "Goldcard for newer devices isn't implemented in this unregistered version."
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
**** (excuse my language...) i'll look into another fix
[Hero, G2 Touch General] m4co:
This is great !

Great tutorial!

How come this isn't sticky???

Found because you replied to my thread...the best tutorial

What's the " Setup Apps2SD " section for ?

I'm also using VillainROM,

does it make the SD faster or something ?

I already installed some apps after I was done,

should I uninstall them or partioning will format it already ?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Track34:
That would be great, I just got this phone through Telus and a Goldcard is my only option.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
In reply to your post:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
They don't sticky guides here. They are in the wiki though.

A2SD - google it :) and check new info in the section

If you don't know what it is i'd stick to your current setup. You can enable it at any time. Any apps on your phone will be automatically transferred over.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Track34:
Thanks alot, I got my Goldcard image :D
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
Working goldcard page now :)

http://psas.revskills.de/?q=goldcard
[Hero, G2 Touch General] planetm:
Just wanted to say thanks for this post, tried with my phone this morning, had to use goldcard method, now successfully booting into custom rom for the first time. Whole procedure worked flawlessly, thank you.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ukripper:
Bluetooth transfer works perfectly for me now using EStrong File explorer on Villain ROM 5.4. I tried other apps which didn't work for transfer, ES worked without a problem. anyone having problem with bluetooth transfer on Villain ROM 5.4, give ES a try. Everything works perfect now.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] m4co:
Just a quick question,

When I clicked "Backup Recovery Image" did I do a recovery image of my Hero ? just like nandroid does ?

I just read about this nandroid and got a bit worried that I didn't use it.

I copied the recovery image to my computer just to be sure anyway.

Just wondering if that's from how my Hero was before..
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ChosSimbaOne:
When i install a new rom and do the step: Wipe SD:ext partition, will i then need to redo the apps2sd step?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
From the sounds of it, "Backup Recovery Image" simply creates a backup of the stock recovery console incase you need it again in future. This is then erased when you install the Amon Ra Recovery.

I recomend you create a Nandroid now though so you can return it back to the current state it is in now should anything go wrong. If you ever need to return it back to stock state, you can flash a stock ROM with the custom recovery console, or install one of the RUU .exe files from HTC, this will un-root, and put stock ROM and stock recovery console back on.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
You mean the creating the partitions? I would if I was you. Just to be on the safe side.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ChosSimbaOne:
Roger that, thanks for the help :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] m4co:
But before Amon Ra erased I think I copied.

I just checked and 'recovery-backup.img' is 5MB while 'recovery-RA-hero-v1.6.2.img' is 3.7MB.

That means I do have a backup copy right ?

btdag, you might add an extra step to your guide! Just to copy the backup before erasing with RA.

Eitherway it's good to know that HTC has this RUU .exe file that will turn it back to how it was.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] maormark:
everythinks works fine except Apps2SD

with Villain5.5.0 ROM

what should i do?.

im installing app and i see in sd & phone storge that the internal phone storge is Decreases down from 101mb to 94.79mb
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
Have you partitioned your SD card?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] maormark:
I did everything that is written:

3. Select:

Partition sdcard

Partition SD

Press Home

Swap-size = 0 MB

Ext2-size = 512 MB (recommended)

FAT32-size = Remainder

Press Home
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
Normal - it still stores some on the phone I believe. Run the check script if you're not sure.

That will wipe the apps you have installed on it nothing else, but unfortunately it is necessary for most rom's. It will leave the partition in place :)

No need. You'll never need this backup again. The step is there purely to make sure you have access because otherwise you type in the long path name and them button doesn't highlight and there are no error messages. With this step, if you don't have the correct access it gives you an error.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Mehumummo:
Does updating radio drain more battery? If so, how much?

Which ROM, which is 2.1, would you describe the best one?

Is microSD card that came with Hero class 2 or is it fast enought for Apps2SD?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
Updating the radio on mine didn't really have any effect on battery drain. I have heard a few ppl say theyv had better battery performance though.

... and yes the 2gig SD that came with the phone is sufficient for using apps2sd,.. although it can't hurt to have a nice 16gig class 6 Sandisk!!!

... sorry can't help about 2.1 roms.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
Radio updates can effect battery but it is just as likely to improve battery as decrease it (personally I think most of this is in the users head).

2.1 rom - i would recommend VillainROM and check out their forums at VillainROM.co.uk for better assistance (i have a villain specific version of this guide on there)

I personally wouldn't recommend using the stock SD card as it is probably not any better than the internal memory speed wise and you're taking 1/4 of the space. Please don't think A2SD will suddenly make your phone super fast cause it wont! It barely makes a noticeable difference, but it is just quite nice to have enabled.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Mehumummo:
Thank you.

Installed Villain and radio update.

Villain seems to be better than BeHero+ which I used as my 1. custom ROM.

I bet that radio update is worth some battery, especially with data connection. Just made sure it isn't anything outstanding.

I'll see if I will buy new SD card. I wasn't really thinking about increasing speed using SD card, just space, but now that you mentioned is class 6 worth it's price or should I buy class 4?

Do I need to make radio upgrade every time I flash ROM?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] celticfang:
Anyone want to PM me step by step how to root and get Android 2.1 on my T-Mobile Pulse G2? I assume I can use the SD card that comes with the phone as a gold card or not?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
I cant seem to find any 8gig class 4s directly on amazon but here's a 8gig class 6, £14,... Cant moan about that.

Transcend 8 GB Class 6 microSDHC Flash Memory Card with adapter

... And no,... radio only needs updating once.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Mehumummo:
Well I was able to, tough at Unlockr he said it may not always work.

Too cheap to really be good right...? Can't figure out what could be wrong with memory card but there's always something :/

Now it makes more sense for me. How did I get this image that it flashes to ROM not radio fw...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
No, I think its fully legit. Its the only one that is shipped directly by amazon themselves. It was £20ish about 6-8wks ago. Im ordering mine tomorrow.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] btdag:
Read the first page....

Class 6 only means minimum speed of 6mb/s - there are some class 6 cards with average read/write in the area of 30mb/s - they usually come at a cost.

Having said that some class 4 cards and even some class 2 cards can still achieve better than 6mb/s - but it's not guaranteed.

My class 6 ranges between 6-9mb/s most of the time and it was a cheap as chips model. Search for reviews of good cards.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] keridel:
Re: [Guide] Complete Newbie Guide to Install a Custom Rom & Newbie ]

if you are uk based check moby memory.com really good prices for cards

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