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[Desire General] Shadamehr:
How do you get 3GB...?

Flext tariff customers get 1GB only, as do the new tariff customers.

Additionally (fact), existing Flext Customers, SOME (such as me) get 3.5G, by blagging this in the early days they could add the flag to your account.

But on all the NEW style T-Mobile Tariffs, the Unlimited Internet, which, as I say, has a 1GB cap, just the same (fair use policy actually, not a cap), is only 3G however, NOT 3.5g

I say this as fact, as I have two existing Flext lines on my account, and have just added two new lines under the new tariff, and these are indeed 3g only, not 3.5g and T-mobile will do nothing to budge3 on uprating these, no matter what I try.
[Desire General] cez10:
had one phone for umm 2 weeks and the crap reception was so annoying i had to move to o2. but that was bout 18 months ago, perhaps they are much better now?

also my friends arent really recommending it for the same reason + customer service. happend bout 6 months ago

for me its enough to stay away from them. im considering the tmobile £10 offer though 24 month is a long time and i dont like having the same phone for that long :/
[Desire General] Shadamehr:
For SOME existing Flext Customers, SOME (such as me) get 3.5G/HSDPA, by blagging this back in the early days they could add the flag to your account. Others allegedly got HSDPA when they took out a Flext 2009 tariff (the ones with inclusive calls to 08xx numbers, but not free voicemail).

But the vast majority of Flext customers, and ALL customers on all the NEW style T-Mobile Tariffs, the Unlimited Internet, which has the same 1GB FUP, the speed is only 3G however, NOT 3.5g

I say this as fact, as I have two existing Flext lines on my account, and have just added two new lines under the new tariff, and these are indeed 3g only, not 3.5g and T-mobile will do nothing to budge on uprating these, no matter what I try.
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
Don't want to worry you but three and t-mobile use the same masts. Infact, when the Orange-TMobile merger was announced, they had to agree a new deal with three to allow them to carry on using their phone masts because if they didn't the EU wouldn't let them go ahead as they would be effectively bringing three (The competition) out of business in the UK.

If you have poor reception on three you'll get the same reception on T-Mobile
[Desire General] cez10:
damn :/ thx for letting me know, you probably saved me a lot of hassle with returns so thanks again dude.

In this case i will probably do some research about t-mobile in devon area if i dont find anything promising will choose vodafone as my next provider
[Desire General] Jabbypants:
I used this from there site said i would get a good signal and i do, 3g/hs no problem here.

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/coverage/street-check/
[Desire General] cez10:
umm according to the map the 3g coverage seems to be very good where I live, though there are places marked as no coverage at all which is kind of weird cos some of them are in the middle of the city centre :rolleyes: oh well ill try to get some good deals with vodafone n maybe o2 if not ill have to got for tmobile

/e

strange coz i checked again the places that had no coverage are now covered :o
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
Says the same where I live which isn't surprising because I'm in Birmingham City Centre.

Yet 90% of the time I couldn't get 3G at my home.
[Desire General] riz157:
Ordered mine direct from T-Mobile

orginally they were demanding £164 pounds on a 24month £10 per month contract, but I mentioned I could get it cheaper from mobilephonesdirect.com. Sales rep verfied what I said and knocked of £40 of the handset, delievery this satuarday.

total cost £365.
[Desire General] saquib:
Cheers, done the same. Won't actually use the sim (!)
[Desire General] cez10:
:( oh well looks like i got no choice and just wait for vodafone or o2 :mad:
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
Go order a free t-mobile sim from somewhere, try it out in your area see what results you get.

You wouldn't get the phone on friday anyway, they apparently only get 75 and I recon they have already filled that amount of preorders.
[Desire General] cez10:
will a free sim card work exactly the same with 3g etc as if i got it for a pay monthly contract?

suppose i dont really mind waiting another week or so, waited quite a long neway so couple days doesnt really make a difference
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
Yeah it would.

You wouldn't even have to top it up or anything, chuck it in a spare 3G phone (if you have one) and see how it performs in your area.
[Desire General] firedup:
I was under the impression 3 used the same masts as o2, not t-mobile?
[Desire General] firedup:
Actually you might be right, but just because they use the same MASTS doesnt mean the coverage is the same -they will use different base stations. The mast is the physical structure (pole), the actual coverage experienced will depend upon other factors such as number of data channels, contention on the network / frequency of the base station, nothing to do with the masts.
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
I seem to be wrong, it's not Masts but they do seem to share something. I don't know an awful lot on all this but:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8543683.stm

I'm not sure what it is, weather they use the same masts, network frequency or weather three piggybacks off t-mobile's network (like Virgin Mobile) but I've been told you'll get exactly the same signal on 3 and t-mobile.
[Desire General] cez10:
my current n95 is unfortunately branded to o2 so i dont think i can check that, unless my sisters hd2 from p4u is unbranded. will have a look later if wont work ill just wait a bit more for my desire ;)

thx man for lots of help :)
[Desire General] Andaho:
Anyone pre-ordering contracts with more minutes?
[Desire General] cpam:
Well i pre order and is upgrade. Free HTC Desire, 600min, 500txt, 3GB, for £35 on 12 month contract. :D
[Desire General] Jasand:
Hold on.. Are you saying that mobile operators can limit the internet speed you get on your mobile?

Im on Voda and at work I can get HSDPA full with superb speeds but at home 4 miles away i can barely get GPRS perhaps 3 bars. Using current Xperia X1

As for new contracts go through to disconections, i just done this for my GF said we wanted to cancel and we got N97 mini free £20 pm 300mins 300text free internet. However the N97 was awfull and after 4 days swapped it for HTC magic, thats what convinced me to go HTC and to the desire as my contract ends end of next month and i will try to cancel to get a great deal.
[Desire General] StuMcBill:
Not really related to contract prices but: I just spoke to O2 and the Desire is currently on their System for a release at the end of April, but that could change.
[Desire General] cez10:
im with o2 and my contract runs out on the 21st of april, tried to upgrade on their website but all the deals were crap and i dont want to wait another month to get desire so ill probably move to vodafone in about a week time
[Desire General] Rutter:
Exactly what they told me too on Tuesday when I called. Well after the woman looked it up as "HTC Desire - nah, never heard of it". She said scheduled for end April so more likely available at start of May.

I'm due an (early) upgrade 16th April. So, have pre-ordered my Desire with T-mob. On the 16th I'll 'upgrade' to a simplicity deal, then immediately give my 30 days notice and get my PAC. And I save myself £10 a month over my current iPhone tarrif. Yay \o/
[Desire General] StuMcBill:
Do you know if O2 brand their HTC phones?

I currently have a BlackBerry Bold and it comes with O2 Branding. I hate branding! :mad:
[Desire General] Rutter:
No idea I'm afraid. I had an old XDA Mini-S which I think had branding. Then an N95 with none (aside from gimped firmware). Then iPhone (none, obviously). It'd probably be worth a phonecall to check.
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
I'm either on Flex 25 or 35, can't remember exactly which one.
[Desire General] jonneymendoza:
How much minutes you get on flex 25?
[Desire General] jonneymendoza:
How did you blag that?
[Desire General] StuMcBill:
I don't mind a small logo on the Exterior of the phone, it is more the firmware which I don't like being interfered with.

I am not sure what you mean? Which one are you going to get your PAC for?
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
I'm on flext 35 +wnw, you don't a get a certain amount of minutes or texts as such. The tariff gives you £200 per month of 'credit' on the account which then gets chipped into by texts/mms and calls, unlimited internet (I think - it may have had a 1GB FUP orignally, but I've never had a problem, even using the phone as a usb modem for a laptop to access the internet).

Have now signed up for a Desire on the existing tariff, but T-Mobile chap says it'll be tweaked to new download allowance (3GB that others are talking about I guess) and will also now include calls to 0845 numbers in the package, which it didn't previously for another 18 months.

I like the flexibility of this tariff as it varies month to month what I use more of, minutes or texts, and in the past I've got p***ed off being billed by mobile companies for using too many texts but having loads of unused minutes go to waste.

Edit: SH500 how did you blag that from them, I didn't get that good an offer, grrrr :)

Anyway, enough rambling from me for the minute :D
[Desire General] Rutter:
I'll get my PAC from O2 so I can transfer my number to the new T-mobile SIM.
[Desire General] jonneymendoza:
im on flex35 with web and walk as well. Did you phone t mobile and did they honour your order of a desire?

Did you get a free upgrade?
[Desire General] jpxdude:
I took the plunge and ordered the £20P/M deal on an 18 month contract, phone cost = £129 upfront.

This is 300 mins, 300 texts, unlimited internet (FUP 3GB) and unlimited text flexbooster.

The way I see it is I have been paying £20 P/M on my O2 simplicity deal which is similar, and have already got the PAC from it to transfer over, essentially it'll feel like i'm paying just £129 for the phone itself, as I'll continue as if I was on my regular contract with O2 after the porting :)
[Desire General] Ed-UK:
Cost me £40, waiting on the phone now.
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
Don't want to disappoint anyone waiting for o2 but apparently they are having iPhone style tarrifs for the Desire eg, poor amount of minutes and texts, unlim internet and wifi for a very high price.
[Desire General] StuMcBill:
Well if that is the case I might have to take my business elsewhere........although, I have found O2 to be very good at modifying tariffs for me when I have upgraded. Maybe thats because I am a Platinum Customer though?

Also, what do they mean by Unlimited Wi-Fi? I already have Wi-Fi at my flat? Do they have a deal with a Hotspot provider or something?
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
They give you access to BT Openzone hotspots.
[Desire General] StuMcBill:
That might actually be good for me as I travel around a lot and spend a lot of time in Airports, I assume I could use it on my Laptop also?
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
Yeah but you get a limit
[Desire General] shawon007:
Credit Check

Does anyone know if I will pass a credit check, based on the fact that I am a uni student and have NO outstanding credit? Also does it make a difference if I go to a store or buy online?
[Desire General] jpxdude:
If you buy online, or by telephone, you have 7 day cooling off period in case you don't like the phone. If you go in store you lose that privilege.

Credit check for mobile contracts is more lax than anything like a credit card, but if you fail to make payments can have the worst effect on your credit rating as I've experienced in the past from contractual mistakes!
[Desire General] Jon_010:
I wouldnt worry about it, i'm a student and they gave me a 40 pound a month contract with vodafone.
[Desire General] jonneymendoza:
they? who? o2?
[Desire General] StuMcBill:
Yeah O2 do with the unlimited Wi-Fi bolt on!
[Desire General] Andaho:
Oww... just got this message from TopCashBack:

Special time limited offer - Bonus for achieving over £80 cashback

Expires on, 03 Apr 2010 23:59

As you've now earned over £80 in your TopCashBack account, we've given you a better referral deal.

Your Invite-A-Friend bonus for this period is £1.00.

Your friend will receive a sign up bonus of £1.00.

More reason to sign up from my link if you haven't already lol
[Desire General] Andaho:
T-Mobile sent me an email this afternoon at 3pm saying my phone had been despatched :) Expecting it will come on Monday because Saturday is usually charged at a premium special service by couriers.
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
Just to add to that, I'm also a student, £500 into my overdraft and I pass credit checks fine.
[Desire General] stewart30:
just ordered mine for t-mobile today, no stock so will have to wait:(

got it on

£30pcm

600min & text

Unlimited internet

£10 for phone

can't wait to get it
[Desire General] Lukehluke:
I got the £10 per month contract as its the cheapest but has a lot :D

100 mins.

Unlimted texts.

3GB internet.
[Desire General] leoni1980:
I got them to knock me down from £164 to £124, just by saying one of my friends had been offered it for that!
[Desire General] cez10:
im thinking of gettin the £15/m offer with phone for 164, though i was thinking of using quidco to get the phone price down a little, i suppose u ordered urs by telephone?
[Desire General] niraveg:
There are many many ways to get them to reduce the price by £40. Usually if you're a t-mobile customer its as easy as saying "I'm an existing customer what you got for me"...

With non-existing customers, push hard enough and get the right person and you're laughing!!!
[Desire General] cez10:
fair enough ;)

btw if i order by phone, do i also get the 7 days 'return time' if i dont like the phone?
[Desire General] niraveg:
yep you do.

The 7 Days applies whether it's over the phone or over the net.

If you buy instore, get them to do a StreetCheck so that if you want to cancel you can do within 7 days by claiming you have no reception!!
[Desire General] cez10:
ok thanks.

i already did the street check online and got sent the free tmob sim which ill try probably later tonight.
[Desire General] bigf00t:
Anybody got any release dates for orange?

I'm eligible for an "early" upgrade now and buymobilephones contacted me earlier this month also- though they said phone us back in April for the Desire.
[Desire General] cez10:
mobiles.co.uk sells desire with orange ;)
[Desire General] skanj:
buymobilephones have got some blinding deals on t-mob if you wanna migrate your number mate:o
[Desire General] bigf00t:
Can I upgrade with them if I didn't buy with them originally?
[Desire General] skanj:
you can mate thats what ive done
[Desire General] bigf00t:
Wahey... will have to call them Monday.
[Desire General] x1Kofi:
Just managed to order my HTC desire here are the details of the contract i got as follows:

Supplier: Vodafone Direct

Network: Vodafone

Tariff: 600 minutes + Mobile Internet

Length: 12 Months

Minutes: 600

Texts: Unlimited

Internet: Unlimited

Phone Cost: £99

Per Month: £35

Total Cost: £519
[Desire General] fuzzmo:
Not bad - are you an existing customer?
[Desire General] cez10:
should have had the offer from mobiles.co.uk 12 month 300min unlimited texts and internet £40pm £20 for the phone and total was 480 or something :)
[Desire General] x1Kofi:
Yea I am, everytime its a struggle getting a decent deal, I call them they and they say how they cannot sell the phone on a 12 month contract, and this their 'lowest' offer, just have to haggle ure ass off. What I find is best is going to a comparrison site. Like http://www.omio.com/ then quote them the price and take about 10% off. I still dont feel I got the best deal, its only £10 cheaper than what's available to a new customer through a 3rd party :-/ So maybe it is a good deal...

@cez10 yea 300mins contract seems like a good deal, but if you go over your allocated minutes you end up paying about 4 times what it would cost you if you had paid extra for more minutes, found it out the hard way with bills over £100, and £80 a month, but now the bills are a constant £35.

I think however, soon we can make all our calls VoIP so wont be need for minutes. Kind of how text message allowance has become redundant since you can message each other throught the internet for free!
[Desire General] furrypotato:
I ended up with Virgin Mobile for my wife's phone.

£35 per month, free phone. 18 month contract. 800 minutes, unlimited text & data.

Big bonus was delivery - I ordered at 6pm on wed and it was delivered the next day.

As a Virgin Media customer you can get an additional £5 per month knocked off that price.
[Desire General] DaleR:
I've just picked it up for:

Carrier - T-mobile UK

Monthly cost - £10

Minutes - 100

Texts - Unlimited (Free flexible booster)

Internet - Unlimited

Handset contribution - £80

Contract Length - 24 Months

Total Cost - £320 :D
[Desire General] pete 28:
After requesting my pac on Wednesday vodafone rang me with this deal

free phone

300min

3000 text

unlimited internet(500gb have gone over this in the past with no charge)

£25 18 months (total 450)

delivery Wednesday :)
[Desire General] shawon007:
To the post above - 500GB Internet allowance? And you have gone over this in the past??

What do you do? tether to a computer and download torrents 24 / 7 ?
[Desire General] fuzzmo:
LOL!!! Of course I believe he means 500 MB :D Would be nice though!!!
[Desire General] pete 28:
sorry yes 500 meg :rolleyes:
[Desire General] cez10:
500mb doesnt seem much when you re thinking of watching youtube clips listen to internet radio and download big games or apps
[Desire General] maplebank:
Who was this deal with?

If T-Mobile direct, were you an existing customer?
[Desire General] cez10:
no, this deal is available online for everyone :) probably the cheapest deal you can get but its for 24months :)
[Desire General] Arbk:
Got a link cez?
[Desire General] cez10:
meh its £164 in the offer for the handset, thought it was cheaper than that :/

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/htc/desire/price-plans/

however when i rang up to get the 18month for £15pm contract the price of the handset was also 164 but i told a nice woman in there that my friend got offered 124 for the phone so i want same offer and she accepted it :) so you might wanna try that :)
[Desire General] zippyioa:
This is the cheapest I can find it for without a contract:

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n447/p31043.aspx#tabsAnchor

Switch the option to T-Mobile PAYG

Total cost - £348.99 + £3.99 for delivery including a car charger :cool:
[Desire General] Arbk:
@cez10

Ah right, I wondered where the £80 handset price came from.

Still waiting on the free T-Mob sim to land so as I can check signal for my area :rolleyes:

Cheers

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Train of thought so far

Buy from T-Mobile

Phone 164

24 x £10 £240

£404 in tot

less £30 cashback

less £25 for my old mob

£349 over the term

100 xnetwork anytime minutes

Unlimited texts (using flexible booster)

Unlimited internet ( free web but a 1gb d/l limit)

*************************

Thats the front runner at the mo.
[Desire General] Arbk:
Had my eye on that but dismissed it, wife would kill me:D

The ideal choice if you have the cash to hand zippyioa
[Desire General] cez10:
i already got mine sim, but forgot my sim free phone was broken so couldnt check it anyway, but in the end ordered t-mobile phone cuz of 3gb internet and very cheap prices, and according to the map it should be fine where i live
[Desire General] zippyioa:
I got a Hero on Vodafone in August 2009 on an 18 month contract so have WAY too long to go before I can upgrade.

After MANY years of WinMo the Hero converted me to Android and I have never looked back. The problems I have though are:

No camera flash

Some lag here and there

Stuck on 1.5 (unless I go for a buggy 2.1 ROM)

This leaves me SO tempted by the Desire. So I can either splash the cash up front or sign up for a second contract and spread the cost.

I cant decide if the contract is worth it as I probably wont use it due to having a contract already.... the biggest benefit would be to be able to spread the cost I guess.... why does life have so many choices ;)
[Desire General] Guitarfreak26:
I'm in same predicament

Thing is if you got bored of the phone you could sell on eBay without being stuck with a contract

though I applied to tmobile last night, on a 15pm handset 95

do they tell you if you wasn't accepted?
[Desire General] Arbk:
lol ...but there's another way to look at it, the lower pm price is a dbl edge sword, like you say it eases the pain on the monthly cost but should another mob catch your eye (as if that would ever happen :p ) its a helluva lot easier to buy out the remaining months of your existing contract @ £10pm instead of say £30pm

Bet you wish you were on a £10 contract with your existing provider now :D
[Desire General] maplebank:
My only problem with jumping into a T-Mobile contract is that if you go outwith the inclusive contract minutes their call charges are dearer than everyone else.

Am I right?
[Desire General] DaleR:
t-mobile direct, merthyr call centre. Existing customer, just asked what would be the cheapest tarriff I could have the desire on. Picked it up from the store earlier.

Gonna use the desire with my other sim card with more mins etc, and putting the £10 a month sim in my milestone for just e-mail/internet.
[Desire General] Guitarfreak26:
How do you know if they have accepted you when you apply online?
[Desire General] simon_leeuk:
Just got this deal from vodafone what you guys think:

600mins

unlimited text

unlimited internet

vodafone passport

free handset

24 months

25 pound a month. At 600 overall not the cheapest overall deal but some good minutes and text!
[Desire General] Airwalker82:
I ordered mine yesterday with T-Mobile, decided to go with them in the hope that I get Orange Wednesdays when they finalise the naming of the merge etc =)

Phone: £20

Minutes: 600

Texts: Unlimited (Comes with a free Text Booster)

Cost p/m: £30

I did see somewhere though (can't exactly remember where though) that the FUP for Orange is 500Mb, but with T-Mobile it's 3Gb, which also aided my decision.

Only reason I didn't stick with O2 was because they have a date of the 29th, as a preliminary date, and I'm just too darn impatient! ;-) Especially as Orange told me middle of this week, and Vodafone & T-Mobile are already out.
[Desire General] skraggy_uk:
Just upgraded in store with Vodafone. Online upgrades not available. Just out of first 18month tariff.

Phone Free:

2 year contract.

700 mins, 250 texts, "unlimited" internet (usual 500gb a month), unlimited landline calls, Vodafone passport.

£29.75 ex VAT, £35 month inc VAT.

I would have topcashbacked online if they had had a suitable contract that I could have online. They would only allow me to keep my existing £35 a month in store, the online £35 a month lost me minutes and gave me texts which I rarely use, and took away the unlimited landline calls.
[Desire General] maplebank:
Did you do this on-line because I think if you do then they add an additional 300 minutes for free?
[Desire General] fdrzrich:
Went in to T-Mobile store today to upgrade from Flext35 contract. Got quoted some stupid prices for upgrade on its own (£250! I told them it was £170 when I logged in to my account!), but wanted to change contract anyway....ended up getting:

24 month

300 mins

Unlimited text

Unlimited data (3gb fair usage)

£20 per month

£20 for the phone!

=£500 over 2 years

I said that I'd seen it for £60 for similar contracts, or free on the £25 contracts (obviously not on T-Mob website, but still!) Guy was good, seemed to know his stuff and got it down to £20! Well pleased, just waiting for it to charge now!
[Desire General] simon_leeuk:
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