yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrcharlesiv:
I think I'll stick to the coffee! Hell, I skipped my NA meeting tonight cause I wanted to play with the new ROM.

I might just be an addict.. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] slim06:
woaaaahhh homie it was a mistype, like alot of people on here im typing from my phone. Sooo eat a **** cuz u couldve just easily said "i think u typed the wrong name..." or somethin of that nature. would u like me to edit the post? would that make u happy. no need to be jerk over something as stupid as this
[Hero CDMA Android Development] flammenwurfer:
Wow, I apparently missed all the drama. :)

I would just like to say, that I have donated to flipz because I realize he has done all the hard work and is a major part of keeping this community exciting. Thank you flipz!

I also have bikcmp's pancake rom on my phone right now, because I like trying the different things people put together and also most of the fresh changes just aren't my style. I appreciate that bikcmp has SLIGHTLY modified flipz's rom so that I can save myself the time of doing it myself. But, like I said, I realize that it was flipz that made it all possible in the first place.

Toast, I know you also help, so thank you as well for the work you have done/are doing/will do! :)

PS. I also really liked gbhil's roms. Anybody want to fill me in on the drama with that? I didn't know he left.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Darkshneider:
From Android Central
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bmr34:
@ slim ... Sorry had a lot of people attacking me today for my position. I apologise. I couldn't care less if u edit the post.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] asapelectric:
So.... should there be forum somewhere, where they're bashing us for getting a copy of something HTC or Sprint didn't want us to have? I'm just saying, it would be polite for him not to post it, but it seems like everyone is getting their hands on something they're not supposed to have yet. AND DON'T BASH ME, I'm just saying ain't nobody supposed to have anything yet. Personally, I wouldn't post it out of respect of him asking me not to. But no need to get nasty about it.:)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] flammenwurfer:
Thanks darkschneider.

That's unfortunate, but I'm glad he's not leaving the community altogether.

I hate when greedy b****** give the rest of us a bad name. :(
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrcharlesiv:
ANYWAYS...

I think that, when/if you make this ROM, it should be AOSP. That way it'll be different. && I'd digg an AOSP ROM. :cool:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Darkshneider:
Problem is solved betweetn Flipz and bik.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] asapelectric:
Cool. I think I really dig AOSP ROMs, I seem to be sticking with it.:eek:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] whatsleft4her:
do the protected and paid apps in the market work?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] asapelectric:
Is this at me? If so, yeah I haven't had a problem yet with apps, any. That's Darchstar. Still camera and video problems, big surprise there,2.1.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
quit being an ass, i for one prefer bikes roms. so what if it's based off of flips work? android is open and we can do what we want with it. at least he's holding off releasing it. some of you crack me up. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] derekstory:
lets get back on topic please gentlemen
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
i agree, im just tired of all the bashing that is going on.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
despite really wanting to try waffle or flips 2.1 i think im gonna hold off until we have the official sprint update and get some "fully" functional roms. ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Tipharet:
You are the **** here, you clearly do not understand the dynamics around here. Your post below is smug as hell , "Ill wait for a fully functional rom" do wait no one cares, but if you are wanting "fully functional" why dont you just cook us up something and fix EVERYTHING? Oh wait, cause you cant but yet you talk **** to the people who do, right.

Android is open, and you can do anything you want with Android, but when someone spends a lot of time working on something they have a right to say, ya know why dont you please wait until I officially release it.

Next time dont even worry about chiming in.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] funcrusher:
It's not really hard to understand. What an unnecessary post.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
unlike you i have no desire or time to try to make any roms. im here to tweak and try roms, not build them. and so you know mr. smartass i already donated to flip for his work. but i have no problems with bike using his rom either to make it his own. that's the beauty of open source and android. think before you post next time.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
and he held off releasing it at flips request didn't he. what it's not ok for me to say i think pancake is faster than flips 1.1 rom? come on man, ill stop here before this thread goes too far off topic.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] darchstar:
Lol, if you would have read the posts in the first couple of pages, it seems as though the pre-release of this rom was in fact just a redistribution of flipz new fresh 2.0 rom with only a few apps removed. thats all. not something that deserves it's rom status. sorry to burst your bubble. stealing is not part of the philosophy of open source.

I think this thread should now die down if i don't say so myself
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ljmeli:
Can we just stop all the childish name calling? Seriously, people calling others dicks and asses...over what? Something that has been resolved...

I think it's great that bik held off in respect of fresh's release, rightly, to be come out first. I also understand the excitement of getting his altered version out for all the community to experience.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bmr34:
I'm with fixxxer on this one. It's not like anyone need the rom. There will b an abundance of roms shortly. Why don't we all donate everything we have to everyone that's worked on android and given flipz what he has? While we're at it y don't we all donate to everyone that's worked on Linux. Or a computer. Done anything for that matter. Flipz did the work on his own accord, with open source software. I'll wait instead of ruining the spirit of open source. Or maybe its a good oportunity to make my own Rom with open source software for myself to share with everyone. Maybe ill even appreciate getting donations for something I just did for myself, with software i didnt make.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chubbzlou:
I do give credit for holding off on his rom.

And yes Flip and freinds did for them him self and for all to enjoy but if it wasn't for his hard work none of this would of happen. So saying that let us all respect FLIP and freinds and drop all this bull**** and get back to what this thread is about.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] boredmug:
Seems like a lot of people are put off by the fact that flipz released the rom to people who donated first. 2.1 with a working camera has been a big desire of mine for a good while now. I have 2 year old twins so the camera is a must. It's obvious there is a BIG want from the community for a working 2.1 rom. just look at all the hoopla that's been going on here this weekend. Now Flipz obviously did a lot of work and probably spent many hours in front of his computer to get 2.1 where it is. There's no reason he should have to share his work at all. I personally don't see ANYTHING wrong with the way he went about releasing the rom. I donated 2 dollars to him through paypal and received the link to the rom. 2 DOLLARS! I spend more than that on breakfast tacos in the morning at work. Flipz certainly isn't getting rich off the donations he received for his rom. He never set a dollar amount. The rom wasn't for sell. Infact, it's gunna be released for free here soon and i'm sure it will be updated with some bug fixes. I was online when this thread was made. The problem i have with it is that it basically was a mirror to Flipz rom put up very shortly after he sent out his links to donators. People complained and the link was removed. Just seemed like a big F U to me. I'm an electrician by trade and believe me if someone went behind my back and basically stole my work and called it their own, said work would be going boom with a bright flash and that would be the end of it. No more lights for you. This is a great site and there are some great people here, but people need to have some ethics.. Just because i can't physically reach out and ***** slap you, doesn't mean you aren't a little *****. :-)

Anyways, that's my two cents...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tatonka_hero:
+1000000000
[Hero CDMA Android Development] juicyj11:
Flip is just being a big *****!!! Android wasnt his creation. Yeah sure its open source but come on its like saying the creators of android should get mad at flip for modding it and doing whatever he wants.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] scriz:
Its courtesy..are you off your meds?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jeric71:
come on man, all it takes is a donation or to wait a couple of days. it's perfectly okay for flipz to test with people who have donated in the past and supported him. no need for that ridiculous name calling. this is a community!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] juicyj11:
You guys are all ******* just get over it and release it
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 305android:
7..

7 f*ckin pages of *****in an moanin..

can someone just CLOSE this thread??
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bmr34:
+1, I was planning on donating. I bet flipz would get more donations explaining the work he did and releasing it.There's a reason open source communities use a donation based sysystem, its not supposed to b for profit. Again donation r a generosity. U all r getting this confused. He lost my donation for holding out and I bet I'm not the only one. That is all. Anyone else should voice their frustration on flip thread instead of getting an open sourcers thread shut down.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] funcrusher:
Hey, maybe you should repeat yourself a few more times.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Avalaunchmods:
Yeh mods have been notified. this thread is becoming pointless.

no one has a right to degrade others. if you dont like how things are then get off this website. the maker of this rom is holding for flipz to release to public. thats it. i dont see anything else to discuss.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] BrianDigital:
Are u still whining, bmr go build your own, you talk about community and you add nothing.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bmr34:
I've added more then u can imagine.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] boredmug:
Funny how none of these little kids complained when the same donation process was done in the past with 1.5 roms. Just because you aren't old enough to own a credit card doesn't mean you can come in here and whine cuz you have to wait a couple days for your precious.. lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] khaag27:
Freshs rom was posted on other websites as well. That is kinda messed up. It was even posted by the same person
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bmr34:
Hans it was! Dling now. Hahaha thanks whoever posted that.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] foolforfood:
loud noises!!!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] blankd3ckskat3r:
You're a greedy little ****. You seriouy can't spare a dollar? Now you're going to complain because of all the bugs in the rom. Someone's hard work is now bring tarnished because of greedy assholes like yourself who would rather wait for someone to release something than try and learn to do it yourself. I hope u dont push him to quit like gbhil did. /rant
[Hero CDMA Android Development] smw6180:
Regardless of what kind of morons and retards people can be, threatening physical violence is a great way to get yourself banned. It so happens I agree with your sentiments. Just not the way you're expressing them. Be careful what you say.

Bottom line: No need to let the trolls get you angry. Not one of them has the stones to say the things they say online in person anyhow.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bmr34:
He tarnished his own work w greed. It's open source douchebag. He got his hands on a leak, now he got leaked! Haahahahaha
[Hero CDMA Android Development] slim06:
apology accepted i was just bein a **** with the edit the post part lol no hard feelings dude
[Hero CDMA Android Development] freshlyill:
greed..

just let him borrow your server and provide all his hosting needs for the rom. then maybe he wont ask for donations..

oh, dont forget coffee and energy drinks to keep him going when he spends countless hours working on these releases.

i dont think i will post again in regards to this matter.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tatonka_hero:
end thread. now.

tired of the bickering. stop feeding the trolls.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chubbzlou:
I think the mods should delete this thread it is getting out of hand. This thread has become use less for who ever want this Rom.

Mods please delete. THANKS
[Hero CDMA Android Development] smw6180:
There isn't any point in trying to change tiny minds. They seem to think they deserve anything they want for free and get angry when someone explains to them why they can't have the bright shiny toys right now but will have to wait a few days.

The main problem with these children isn't donations anyhow...it's the fact that the cool new ROM with 2.1 and a working camera came out and they were told they had to wait for it, unless they were willing to donate a little money.

These people don't seem to see that it's not the ROM they would be donating for, but the time spent by Flipz (and others) to port things over and get them working. But all they see is: "Hey! No fair! Other people got it before me! Waaah!".

My 8 year old is more patient and mature than most people griping about this issue.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rkendle53:
it be nice if you guys stopped acting like girls, i left the samsung moment because the dev community here is so much nicer but now i think i regret it. no one in the world is the first person to do anything, were all imitators. we appreciate the trendsetters and tend to support the copycats. such is life. please move on, make roms and develop stuff i wanna put on my hero. BTW, i donated to flipz and im running his rom now, goes to show for all the ppl who support the copycats you can still make a name for yourself for being a true innovator.. lolz
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bmr34:
You all must b retarded or something. I never said I wouldn't donate. I just got the Danny phone a couple months ago. I surely can wait for the official rom. I am a veteran of the open source community, specifically Linux. It's not generally practiced from my experience to hold out for money. I'm only trying to prove a point that your all to stupid to get. He deserves to get donations and respect for getting going. But its open source. I'm new hear but it won't take me long.to figure out android trust me.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bikcmp:
Okay, lets end it. I posted a rom based on fresh 2.0, and flipz politely requested me to take it down until his release. I respect his decision, and that's it. As soon as I can this will be up. I promise.

Jason
[Hero CDMA Android Development] funcrusher:
That was certainly painful to read. You shouldn't be calling anyone stupid.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] networx2002:
Nicely said :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Tipharet:
lol QFT

10Char
[Hero CDMA Android Development] wtphoto:
you know I wasnt going to post anything in this thread becuase it has become a troll war but I feel that this needs to be said.

we just lost a really good developer because of all the BS that is starting to go on. This is one of the main problems that I see with android being open source. particularly this forum. as android is gaining popularity there are more and more people coming here to as fixxer put it "tweak and test roms" that have no desire to learn anything about how to do it themselves. I give props to bik for pulling the link until flipz releases. but that being said the original request that was in the email that we recived should have been honored to begin with, but at least he made it right.

I would just hate to see another developer give up releasing their work for us to play with becuase of all the drama.

please try and respect and appreciate the people that do put in the time to make all this fun and useful stuff that we get play with and make our experience with our mobile devices just a little better.

thank you............end public service announcement.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Roman G:
So how exactly do you steal open source!

Enough said!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] atoz350:
The fact of the matter is, flipz, toast, darchstar, and gbhil are the real innovators here. They are the ones truely building these roms from the ground up, based on files that are not made to work on our phones. They are coming up with the patches that make things work. They are the real developers.

The events that have been happening as of late by these "ROM modifiers" have already knocked one of our best innovators out of the game. What happens when all of them are gone? Who will the modifiers build off of then? I believe that if you must modify a ROM, keep it to yourself. If you must release it, keep it as general as possible to protect the developer and give credit where credit is due. Donations should not be accepted for a modified ROM as it is not really your work. Please respect our developers, as they are all we've got. You really don't know how boring your phone can get if there is nothing new being developed for it. I came from the Vogue community, and I can tell you the Vogue would not have been as successful if it wasn't for the developers and skinners.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dmc971989:
so wired Tether works on this rom? ive yet to be able to get it to work on any rom i have tried for the hero?

if it does work did you modify the rom or the program to make it happen? if it was the program that you modifed could you please post the .apk?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Konikub:
I couldn't agree more! I am Soooo not a developer....and would never claim to be. All I did was modify an uber popular ROM and added some good stuff....patched it all up (it needed patches)...new rosie, kernel, and updated icons. All of that could have been done by simply finding it all and flashing a ton of time yourself. Well, except the kernel which I extracted out of a modified Gumbo ROM.

So, I believe we should keep the focus and praise on the major players here...flipz, toast, darchstar, and gbhil and respect their work. I would never ask for donations just because I modified something for my own satisfaction. I might release it to the public...but I'll give HUGE props and thanks for those who made it "ALL" possible. Cause it surely wasn't me that made any of it possible....aside from maybe helping others flash alittle less.

I look forward to flipz 2.1 Fresh ROM, and I look forward to the others that do good things with it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] someonenewhere:
I concur with Konikub on this one...we need flipz, toast, darchstar and gbhil around here..

without them this forum wouldn't be what it is...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bikcmp:
I think it might all be for the best. Toast apologized, I removed the link as SOON as I saw flipz request it, so why are we still arguing? Stop it already, it's childish! Also, I get more time to make this ROM better :). Flipz was right, the inital release was going to be just some very minor mods because I wanted to get it out there, but now I have time to get this :).

Jason
[Hero CDMA Android Development] justinisyoung:
so much for going to bed, eh?

;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] atoz350:
It's all good. I appreciate you as well. Your thread taught me a lot and you've been very helpful to the community by creating it.

PEOPLE, by simply following bikcmp's thread you can customize these ROMS to your liking. It's very beneficial with the limited space we have on these phones. As I said in my previous post, be respectful to our developers and do not release your personal creations as a "new ROM", as it is not your work, but rather a modified ROM. Maybe someone can coin a phrase for it?

Also with respect to gbhil, please DO NOT post a modified ROM if it has paid apps in it.

I think that even though this is an open source platform, we should all exercise some regulation and respect for others. That is all.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dmc971989:
???? 10 chars
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rockcrawler:
Are you as confused about you're original question as I am or was that your version of a Bump. LOL, I'm just messing with ya !! :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dmc971989:
I was just bumping my question... ive been asking about it in the major 2.1 threads for a few days now and have yet to recieve an answer...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Sporkman:
so when wil the download link be back up :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] flammenwurfer:
I'm wondering the same thing!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bikcmp:
Okay guys, looks like I can release it. Expect it in a few hours.

Ps. Thanks for the donations guys. I've been getting a lot from pancake Rom. I appricate it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tango22203:
Can u add reboot fix on it.? Thanks
[Hero CDMA Android Development] KERKEDAGAIN:
lookin' forward to it..pancake was pretty good. Any specifics on the "optimizations"?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
first off i can't wait to try this release? can you tell us what definitely works and what doesn't when you release it? 2nd i want to apologize for what i said last night. i just get defensive sometimes. i think we all have the right to choose which rom is best for us. should we apply the new radio update as well. thanks to flips and bike for all the hard work.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Fadakar:
Swype beta doesn't work on this, that's the only problem I have with it, and neither of the Android Keyboards work, they force close.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bikcmp:
Okay guys, I'm working on it, looks like I'm free to release it :). Meet me on the IRC link I posted and we'll talk about it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
no ones on #waffle. is that the correct channel?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bikcmp:
That's odd... I see over 20 people :P

irc.bikcmp.info port 6667 (6670 for SSL)

and type /join #waffle
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ajaholic:
not specifically related to this thread..but just been used a lot here so i figured i'd ask.

what does "10 chars" mean?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bikcmp:
Well, the forum has a minium of 10 characters in a post. If your just going to put :) in a post, you wouldn't be able to post it as it's under 10 characters. Adding 10chars to it usually puts it over 10 characters.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
why not freenode? lol im on freenode :P
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ajaholic:
haha never knew that...thanks for clearing that up.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bikcmp:
Lol, /me is banned from freenode. Jk :P But I like my own server, as I can deal with *caugh* trolls more effectively, and the whole party is there atm :P
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
so since this is a 'test" i take it the official 2.1 update is right around the corner? :D