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[HD2 General] wigwam12:
did a (quick) search and lots of entries regarding playlists but did not see any addressing these [probably] basic questions:

1) any way to add songs to a playlist without actually having to "load"/play the song?

2) how can I delete an entry from a playlist - either a duplicate or unneeded entry. I could not find such an option in "menu" - just delete [the playlist].

Thanks :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jmhalder:
I've installed and reinstalled android since the .7 builds before android 1.0 was out, i've installed using data images and ext2 partitions... I've put my time in, so i've had a G1 since december and have pretty muched stopped playing with my kaiser, I picked it up today and have been trying to do a NAND install of Poly's build with no luck... got the 320x240-Panel2-Tilt NBH installed and booting, along with poly's build dropping into the andboot folder... and updated to radio 1.71*, after doing a install to NAND (and wiping /data & /system)... I see that I have bad blocks on my mtdblock3 (NAND) when its mounted... I cant seem to boot android all the way, anyone else have a bootable android that has bad blocks... AFAIK most devices that use NAND work around potential bad blocks (Wii, XB360, etc) will it format around these blocks?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jmhalder:
wow, I reflashed the .NBH, and still getting the same bad block error, set the phone down and was browsing the web and listening to TwiG, look back over at the phone and it WAS sitting on a shell on a blank line ie. "#", and started the NexusOne logo!!! so I guess its all good with bad blocks and all!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jmhalder:
Now another question, I'm on a $9.99 featurephone unlimited dataplan for AT&T, if I throw my sim back in my Tilt, will they figure it out? I dont have my IMEI registered, but obviously they can see it... lol, I know its a little off topic.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cb2002:
I have 3 bad blocks on my Tilt and doesn't seem to be affecting anything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hhsfool:
Yes bad blocks are a part of every NAND memory device. I read somewhere that there is like a 5% failure rate on these types of memory. It's just how the tech is. However, there is a system built into it to keep track of the bad blocks, once it's marked bad, it will never be used. I also have 1 bad block and have had no ill effect on my kaiser. It just seems that the boot process lists which blocks are being reported as bad by the memory.

Hope this helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Beackman:
I have around 7 bad blocks, and OK with my sistem.hahahahahahaha.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tonyc0642:
Yeah they will. They figured it out in less than a week when I got my old Hermes. Even without my IMEI registered, and a custom ROM installed, my account on the site showed I was using a Cingular 8525. They automatically switched me to the $30 data plan. There was absolutely nothing I could do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mayad79:
at&t

"They" do know, but if you have a feature called "smartphone exclusion" you can get away with a $15 data plan, but as soon as you upgrade to a smartphone the exclusion feature is removed.

So, if you have two lines always upgrade the one that will not be using a smartphone, then switch sim cards.

The only way to know if there is a smartphone exclusion feature is for a rep to open your account and look at your feature codes, even the $0 features.

This probably doesn't make any sense, but I wish there was a way to block an IMEI, then no problem. In the past we could put all 1111's for an imei in the system as a non att phone and there were no reprocussions.

peace
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
I've wondered the same thing at times about the imei. It seems every time I went exploring the "making imei different' option, all I would ever get is the big lecture about stealing phones.

(RANT ALERT)

Kinda like when you go buy allergy medicine and get carded, cause there are a bunch of losers out there doing something illegal with it.

I am not sure of the ethical issues with using 'too much data' or paying more, b/c I use my wife's Samsung Flite (insured non-smartphone) with $15.00 internet tethered bluetooth to my laptop, so eh...... I'm always a stickler for paying what I think something is worth to me, especially after a company has REALLY taken advantage of me a time or two. And btw, where I live, I only get 1 bar most of the time. Really, our phones hardly work, so we have skype on the PC to make calls from our home. They work great in the city that I work in, but i'm on a computer using google talk mostly. Can you say "Holes in the coverage map?" And yes, i've tried all the radios. Be it my kaiser, the old hermes, my wife's samsung flight, or the 3 we've had Blackjacks, theres just never been good coverage. So ya, I think i'm overpaying a bit. I just use my phone as a toy, a hobby, a see what it can do.

I've read about IMEI changing being illegal in certain countries. What about the USA? I mean seriously, I drive a car with no catalytic converter, but we don't have emissions checks in my state. Yes that means I'm breaking the law, but I also think that relatively speaking, i'd rather the police spend their time busting Meth labs than worrying about my car emitting 20% more stuff from the exhaust.

Its all about saving money, because everyone is trying to get ALL of it from you.

(/RANT)

Can the imei on the kaiser be changed, or killed for that matter? Has it been explored?

And please, spare me the stolen phone lecture. I just don't think I can take it. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
How about the "It's illegal to change your IMEI number in most countries and you could face prison if you do it" lecture? :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
Pulling out the catalytic converter won't increase your mpg, as many modern cars actually require the back pressure. You'd have to also modify the computer, or own a car made in the 70's and older.

I bought my Kaiser off Ebay, and it's actually made for the UK. Just to try and avoid having to pay a $25 fee for having access to unlimited internet. Course the 3G doesn't work with T-Mobile in USA, but I use 2G anyway to save battery power.

Cell phone industry is just one big scam. You can't afford to buy a new phone, unless it's under contract, and switching cell phone companies will cost you a disconnection fee. Not to forget that their cell phones are locked to them only, and requires you to beg for the unlock code.

Honestly wish that T-Mobile had a $10 fee for getting unlimited internet, cause relying on wifi is a huge hassle.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Well i've officially derailed this thread. sorry. I'll go join the ranks of losers that I always complain about ;)

BTW, my car doesn't have a cat cause its a 18 year old Cutlass Calais, and I'm not paying to put one back on where the original one rusted away. ;) It does have a new exhaust however, and right where that cat converter goes is a nice shiny honda resonator from a civic Si (got it from a friend at college when he put an aftermarket exhaust on his car).

I don't think you'll get prison time in the United States for messing with your phone, I'm not sure either. I've never heard of it actually happening due to someone changing imei numbers in order to profit criminally in some way.

BTW, just to tie this thread back into its original form, i've gotten Bad Nand blocks reported one time. I flashed hardspl again using sdcard method, and haven't seen them mentioned in android boot since. Weird huh?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
I get errors with bad nand blocks as well, but as someone mentioned, that's normal. It's like buying a LCD TV and you see a few dead pixels. That's normal, even though it pisses you off, knowing that companies dare make products with some defects. Even CPUs have this too. For example, when Intel or AMD makes CPUs, they pick the ones that happen to be made well. The ones with the less defects can clock higher, and therefore cost more money. The CPUs with the more defects get clocked lower, and sold cheaper. It's gotten to the point where some companies are disabling cores. ATI and Nvidia first did this with their videos cards, disabling pipelines that were bad. Now AMD does this with their Athlon and Phenom CPUs, by disabling 1 or even 2 bad cores. Good news is that, many products were sold without defective cores or pipelines, and if you know what you're doing, and lucky enough, you could turn cheap products into expensive ones.

Yea I derailed myself. Anyway, after messing with Android on my Kaiser for 5 hours, I decided it wasn't ready. There's 6 issues that bothered me. Doubt any of it is related to bad nand blocks.

#1 Random features don't function unless you restart phone. Couldn't play MP3's because format wasn't supported. Restarted phone, and now I can play MP3's. There's a lot of instances where restarting the phone will fix a problem, but that brings me to the second issue.

#2 Restarting phone can cause it to not boot. Wouldn't be a huge problem if I didn't need to restart often, but I do. Usually, pulling the battery and holding the power button for a while, usually fixes it for me.

#3 Random freezing. You never know when your phone will just freeze. I got it to freeze when changing my ring tone.

#4 Installing applications must be in internal memory. A specific Android related problem, but annoying as hell. There's a solution to this, but it requires me to partition my SD card, and format it as ext2.

#5 No offline GPS. Again, specific to Android but something I can't live without. I heard Ndrive can do it, but I'd rather use the GPS that comes with the Android. I'm sure there's a way around it, but no good step by step guides to do it.

#6 Can't send audio with texts. I'm not sure if this is a Android issue, or if I needed to restart my phone. I love being able to send pictures and music formatted in the AMR format to friends, but for the life of me I couldn't select any AMR audio to send with texts. I could attact pictures with no problem, but couldn't find any of my mp3's or amr files. The same could be said about changing my ring tone to a mp3, as it just couldn't see it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Did what i said to you in the other thread help with the sticky boot, and the lockups?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
You mean the 3.29 boot loader? It still happened when I flashed it. Though, I did notice that Android booted faster, but that maybe my perception.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jmhalder:
Its not illegal in america, it IS undoubtably illegal in lots of europe... its obviously illegal to exploit that to do malicious things... but whatever, the knowledge to do so is obviously NOT illegal, I'm VERY tired of that argument... that kind of info IS on this site... also, claiming illegality in the US will require citing law for me to really take ANY credibility in it...

*once again, I'm only promoting the KNOWLEDGE to be able to modify this, not the actual act... obviously there are a TON of scumbags that want this info to push devices illegally in the EU, but I personally could give a crap about them.*

/Rant
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
I guess someone totally missed the smiley at the end of my post. :p

As for the knowledge how to do it, it took be approx 5 seconds to put a search in to XDA's search box and come up with the results how to do it. Try it yourself instead of complaining about it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jmhalder:
I've searched, and used good forum etiquette, no need for the harshness, i've tried the single piece of software available that isn't INTENDED for the Kaiser, and I couldn't get it to work, also couldn't find any reports of it working for the Kaiser. PM me if you have any other info.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Please PM me too. I've performed the same searches and haven't found anything useful.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Actually changing your IMEI in order to get a service you have not paid for would be fraud, which I believe would be a felony charge at least.

There are US laws on the book regarding changing electronic "serial numbers" on mobile communications devices. They don't say IMEI (this was to deal with ESN cloning fraud in the late '90s with analog cell phones) but if you actually read the laws as they are written - you'd see they could easily interpreted a lot of different ways.

And in todays climate of anti-terror paranoia, I'm sure that changing your imei might also be construed as an attempt to avoid legitimate surveillance, i.e. wiretapping, which uses the imei in order to intercept traffic to and from a suspects device.

Not that i'm being a killjoy, I just had a look for ways of changing imei, and found a few ways of doing it, i'm just about to point anyone in their direction, since i'm in the UK ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Thats definately one way of thinking about it, however sometimes I've found that you have to take the same exact approach that the wifi provider takes towards you. If they are going to nickel and dime me for all sorts of stuff, and then overcharge me sometimes, where I have to spend MY time, which I value at about $100 an hour when its my free time, fixing mistakes they make. Phone companies in the US are overgrown mongoliths that take advantage of their customers, provide lousy service, and when you really want to get all high end, the support stinks, plus the warranties fizzle out. They want people to sign up for free phones and contracts, period. The iphone and droid just get people in the door. When they find out the price, they use the crappier phones. Like the samsung flight.

I take the approach of getting what I can, and being all 'whoops ok well lets get that fixed' when they whine about it. It hasn't let me down in 20 years of living :) Besides, its kind of a hobby. These phones really aren't fast enough to make any serious dents in the bandwidth if I sort of 'free' my way into it. Buying internet for these phones is like trying to put $900 tires on a geo metro. You can do it, and its really cool, but does it really help out, and was the price right?

I was playing with a motorola droid last night. Talk about a wakeup call.

If you want to share, then share.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jonahs:
And that's how most laws are and will ever be written. I have so far only taken one academic small introduction course in learning about IT law and god, law is often times more confusing than politics!

It's interesting to see what big differences there actually is between countries regarding mobile communication and how much providers can charge the common man (and most likely other companies). I suspect I would feel awfully handicapped in the US, seeing that I hear that the charge rates are so high that people often tend to opt out of, say, data plans. Somehow I still can't believe I wouldn't get anything back by paying as much as people do in the US. Here, I'm a student, I pay $8 a month for a free data plan. With this plan I can roam over any other provider (in Sweden) and still get the same rate. I find this to be an awesome deal; I tend to use data through the provider rather than trying to hook up to a wifi-spot every time I have a chance to get to one. But then again, maybe there is free Internet TV included in those plans, or perhaps a free cup of coffee at Starbucks? ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
Americans are ignorant to what's happening outside their borders. If I watch the news, it's about Tiger Woods. No world news, and hardly any local news.

It took Michael Moore's sicko movie to show Americans how other countries do health care. We suddenly discovered universal health care, and we want it. Now Obama is trying to pass a bill, and Americans are suddenly concerned about their health.

The point is, if it isn't on TV then Americans don't know about it. Magazines, Newspapers, and websites won't inform us.

The same thing with cell phones. If we only knew what cell phones are like in other countries, we'd get angry, but if it's not on TV then it obviously doesn't exist.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Yep. That sums it up, hence the original thought.

I always thought I would be more agreeable living somewhere in Europe. I mean I love the cars, I love trance music, and I like learning languages to talk to people (not that I would need to, but being able to drive to 10+ countries instead of 2 sometime during my life sounds interesting).

America is great because we were HUGE. There was millions of people fighting, building stuff, whatever. America is not so great because we are HUGE. There are millions of people, and not enough everything to go around. America is in a bit of a slump right now, and I think the rest of the world has the upper hand now.

I think Americans listen to whats on TV because we don't have the influence of any other countries making us look bad. I mean come on, we've got Mexico and Canada to compete with, and we're pretty much competing with canada.

So back to cell phones, I guess its just a matter of your country, and what you are used to seeing happen. Rest of world = high cell phone regulation, with high featureset. US = low cell phone regulation, low featureset.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pentagramII:
Guys, You are making really big offtopic ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
You also have to pay to receive calls and texts, which we in the EU find really really REALLY dumb... You should do something about that; it's a total rip off!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
If I had to pay to receive sms or calls, i'd be trading my phone in for sure, I gripe about having to pay 30p a day for unlimited data, ( or 'fair use' at any rate ), and then i read more about US mobile operators, and wonder why you guys put up with that, any provider tried that here they'd be out of business, ( actually, I seem to remember one or two trying that in the late 80's, wonder what they do for a living now?).

The way I see it, I am the customer, they provide the service, if I don't like the service, I find a company who I feel provides me a better deal, thats just the way the market works over here.

Anyway, just to at least make an attempt to be remotely on topic, I got another kaiser to play with today, and upon checking I find 3 bad blocks, and 2 reversed blocks, and so far no problems with flashing or running, although that may change once I start stressing it a little.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
We don't get provider options like that. They all suck, and they suck comparatively. $89.00 for a month of service on a droid? I don't think i'd use it that much. Some people might, but we don't GET the option of a lesser plan. Its either big bucks or forget it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Ok finally found a mainboard at work for a kais130 with a heap of bad blocks, 12 of them in fact, and it hasn't seemed to make a blind bit of difference to flashing or running android.... so far ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
You found one? where do you work? htc?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
My company recently started working on replacing digitisers and polarisers for various phone models, naturally we need to be able to test screens for function before stripping them, and the best test jig happens to be a working phone ;)

Also since I am involved in the repair of the test equipment, I get to play with various phones as well, this poor unfortunate kaiser I just had to 'scrap', since the main flex was worn out from testing screens :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Can you scrap me an iphone with a broken screen? ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Ewwww, we don't do iphone, they're soooooo boring ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skorzo:
Please, is there any way to fix bad blocks? i have some of them on my Nand and i'm pretty sure that they cause problems (for example i can not install the wifi fix for Warm Donut due to bad blocks error)

Only that, a way to fix (or try to fix) bad blocks.

Regards.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Bad blocks are not fixable, and are ignored by the os, they are merely listed since they have to be marked to make sure the os does not use them.

The way nand flash memory is manufactured means that there are always bad blocks.

Most NAND devices are shipped from the factory with some bad blocks which are typically identified and marked according to a specified bad block marking strategy. By allowing some bad blocks, the manufacturers achieve far higher yields than would be possible if all blocks had to be verified good. This significantly reduces NAND flash costs and only slightly decreases the storage capacity of the parts/CODE]

More info here: [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory[/URL]
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skorzo:
This is my MTTY Log:

Cmd>checkimage

SPL CRC checksum = 0xDF9FA8A7

CE CRC checksum = bad=0x241

0x27BAC496

ExtROM CRC checksum = 0x0

Cmd>info 8

--- 2K bytes sector version ---

DEVICE NAME=hynix_hyh0ssj0mf3p

DEVICE ID=0xBA

DEVICE MAKER ID=0xAD

PAGE SIZE=0x800

TOTAL PAGE SIZE=0x840

BLOCK COUNT=0x800

BLOCK PAGE=0x40

Checking block information

BLOCK 2 (0x2) is reversed block

BLOCK 3 (0x3) is reversed block

BLOCK 4 (0x4) is reversed block

BLOCK 5 (0x5) is reversed block

BLOCK 7 (0x7) is reversed block

BLOCK 9 (0x9) is reversed block

BLOCK 12 (0xC) is reversed block

BLOCK 13 (0xD) is reversed block

BLOCK 14 (0xE) is reversed block

BLOCK 15 (0xF) is reversed block

BLOCK 20 (0x14) is reversed block

BLOCK 289 (0x121) is bad block

BLOCK 1414 (0x586) is bad block

Partition[0], type=0x20, start=0x2, total=0x63E

Partition[1], type=0x23, start=0x640, total=0x740

Partition[2], type=0x25, start=0xD80, total=0xB4C0

Partition[3], type=0x4, start=0xC240, total=0xF080

CE Total Length(with sector info) = 0x6181200

CE CheckSum Length(without sector info) = 0x6120000

I've formatted the NAND (task 25) and even made task 2a but bad blocks are still there.

Probably they are there since their manufacturing ...or probably not, because since i noticed the bad blocks I've realized my pda is not working as it should (for example i can not install Wifi RSL patch on Warm Donut Android due to bad blocks error)

I'm pretty scared about the meaning of:

CE CRC checksum = bad=0x241

BLOCK 20 (0x14) is reversed block

BLOCK 289 (0x121) is bad block

I`m sure that my Kaiser is not working OK due to bad blocks .