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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarusdg:
I didnt know where to search for this answer. I had a nexus one and sold it and i wanted another so i just bought one on ebay. What are other advantages to rooting if i have no interest in custom ROMs. i searched and found bits and pieces of an answer to my question but what i am looking for is a consolidated concise answer from you knowledgeable forum members.

Thanks

P.S. if this question has already been answered, please direct me that way ;)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uansari1:
If you search, you can direct yourself.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david1171:
I would consider pointless and a waste of the warranty. There aren't a lot of mods in the dev section that will work on a stock (non-custom rom), so you wouldn't really be gaining anything there.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarusdg:
thanks for your honest answer
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david1171:
Sorry man, just saw that I said would work, what I meant was wouldn't work. A lot of the mods are built from source code that isn't compatible with stock ROMs.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJackson9995:
Themes, Trackball Notification colors, Trackball Wake, Updated Launcher... Those are a few I can think of, off the top of my head.

Oh oh, you can install "WaveSecure" as a System application. Thus making it more difficult to remove from the phone. (Can't just go visit the market to remove :D)

Edit:

Screenshots via ShootMe, N1 Torch (Hey... I did have to use this when my workplace hallways were lacking power... Otherwise I'd consider it a novelty) ;)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liam.lah:
Why do you not want a custom ROM? if you are worried about the UI, cyanogen mod is identical to the stock UI (minus a few colour changes), but adds a whole lot more functionality and memory. The only advantage i can see having a rooted phone with stock over cyanogen is that you will still recieve OTA updates.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Namuna:
... of which are usually leaked well beforehand and integrated into a ROM, before the official OTA goes out.

Personally, it was the CyanogenROM that made the risk of rooting worth it. There's plenty of great apps and utils out there that require root, but none (even cumulatively) worth risking $530 to get.

If you're not interested in the ROMs, then take the blue pill.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iifuzz:
being able to push the track ball to turn the phone on was plenty reason for me ;o
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jz9833:
The decision to root was a hard one for me also, but let me go down the reasons why I loved that I did it.

1) Auto-Rotating launcher. Landscape view is pretty friggin sweet. Plus all my iphone friends get so jelous when I want to show them something so i just flip my phone and my screen rotates 180 degrees. Coolest thing ever...

2) Colored trackball notifications. I don't know about you, but i like that i know what a notification is before i ever take the time to turn the screen on.

3) SetCPU. I made a profile so that when my screen is off, my processor runs slower, thus giving me more battery life.

4) N1 Torch. Turns the N1 into a great flash light.

5) Launcher with shortcuts. I didn't really have a problem with the dots, but having 4 shortcuts to apps there so that they are on every homescreen is very nice.

6) I now have a black notification bar at the top rather than a grey one. This makes the phone alot sexier...

7) Modifcations to HTC_IME. I love the transparent background. This only words if clicker.apk and htc_ime.apk are in the system/app/ folder which you can only modifiy with root access.

8) nandroid backup. very nice.

9) Wake screen on trackball push. Good little shortcut which makes things a little easier.

10) *most important reason* The overall speed of my phone is so much faster... On the stock rom is was plenty fast and i had no complaints, but now it is even more so. The bakedgoods rom is like putting a supercharger in your phone.

The decision to root was a hard one for me, but looking back, I have only 1 regret. Not doing it sooner
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdwardUong:
Most of the benefits you just mentioned require custom ROMs if I'm not mistaken. The thread only wanna stick with stock ROM. I'm noob btw.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jz9833:
only reason 10 requires a custom rom.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vr24:
WiFi TETHERING!!!!!!!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jsapp:
apps on the sd. I still ran out if memory installing the apps I use regularly. That is the main reason for me. Enabling all the phones memory was a big reason too. Plus who needs a warranty with insurance?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigacgomez:
if you have no interest in custom ROMS, i think it would be a waste of warranty... unless you want to install any apps which require root access (like N1 Torch)... or the several modded/developed system apps that require rw access to the system partition which you can only get using insecure boot... so make ur choice... the N1 stock is great... the N1 cooked... wayyy better than the best!!!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] britoso:
Its in my sig now :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spazoid:
I think its funny how people complained that the MT3g, cliq...yadda yadda didnt have enough speed..SO they put in a snapdragon...and people are still not happy. Voiding your warranty is certainly good enough to keep me from rooting my phone for a flashlight, or a trackball color change...Whoop dee doo. When we rooted the mytouch...etc, they had legit reasons. Mutli touch, speed, space saver, cool themes, and tether. They only thing that the nexus doesnt have now is tether. So In due time I will def go back to the rooting field, but not at the cost of voiding my warranty.

But then again the HTC warranty is a joke. I am not sending you my phone and waiting for you to fix a problem that shouldn't have been there in the first place, then wait for you to send it back. Screw that, I would rather pay my deductible and get a refurb.

Contradicting..

But everyone has their own opionon. Oh and just an FYI, from experience HTC can tell if its been rooted
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdwardUong:
I like this post :D It's like you speak my thought out loud

I'm still sticking with my stock setup until I get bored and wait til the time comes

I'll be playing with custom ROMs and hack the heck out of my Nexus :D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigacgomez:
Yes, HTC is smart and like any other company, would like to avoid warranty claims. So I believe they do check every phone to make sure it's not rooted.

I see you point, but I just don't quite agreed with it... but hey, that's my opinion vs. yours and no one's gonna win this battle ;-p).0 But quite frankly, I don't think I'd enjoy my N1 half as much if it was not rooted... I like the stuff Cyanogen ,Enomther, Paul & the other amazing devs have done... I like to fiddle around with the phone... try out new stuff... experiment... the same thing I would do with any linux box... even did it on the Motorola Linux phone I previously had...

So it all boils down to opinion... if you like to fiddle around, root it... if you like the mods, root it... else stick with stock...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spazoid:
I love to expiriment and root just not this early.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Worsty:
Erm...all those reasons are still valid for rooting the Nexus One except for Multitouch...

1) Overclock and undervolted kernel to increase speed and battery life. Also, HiMEM kernel to DOUBLE stock ROM's usable RAM.

2) Apps 2 sd , optimised ROM etc to save internal memory space. 40-50mb? You can also use Adb to remove unecessary system apps and wallpaper to save even more space.

3) They do have some nice themes coming out these days. Not to mention, usage of custom ROMs like the Desire one (if you prefer Sense UI)

4) And of course, tethering.

But if anything, just having titanium backup is enough for me to root my phone. My personal opinion though.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rashid11:
In my case, the modded phone is _more_ stable (on BakedGoods 1.1), compared to stock ROM - it used to freeze up/reboot.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdwardUong:
So my phone is not the only one that often freeze up :( Gotta root !!!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarusdg:
Thank you all for your comments. i might just root this puppy!:D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liam.lah:
In my country you could be locked up for doing that :D

Australians will get it
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarusdg:
if i do go ahead and root, are there any real disadvantages barring voided warranty? can i still use/revert back to the stock rom to receive ota updates?

do i have to use a custom rom and are they better/faster than stock? i mean without overclocking:)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liam.lah:
Cyanogenmod uses the highmem kernel. Your stock can only utilise 256mb ram, CM can use the whole 512. That is the only physical improvement without overclocking, but it does seem snappier on the whole.

Also, the undervolted kernel is enough of a selling point for me. Improve your battery life without sacrificing performance.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uansari1:
So will Americans. ;)
[General Questions and Answers] ankuranand:
i hav installed upgradation from 6 to 6.1 but now phome is getting off again n again, wat i do, pls help
[General Questions and Answers] trowakage:
Perhaps look into some of the custom ROMs found in the HTC Touch section. Would help if you told us what carrier you're with.
[Hero CDMA General] casperlt1:
Found this link http://www.droid-life.com/2010/03/1...eed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(droid+life)

Is this just for the droid(I know the site is "droid life") or what,didn't look into it much just saw the news pop-up and thought Oooooo
[Hero CDMA General] david279:
Droid-life....i think its for droid. Just a guess.
[Hero CDMA General] scriz:
"OEM: Motorola"..kinda upset the Droid is getting updated before us. I was hoping so see official 2.1 before any of the others..oh well, no biggy.

On an upside, it says Live Wallpaper..

Maybe official sense 2.1 will support live wallpapers. We can only see...
[Hero CDMA General] david279:
its like christmas, If you stop thinking about it so much it will be here in no time. And the 2.1 roms we have here in the forums are good to hold you over.
[Hero CDMA General] casperlt1:
Thought it'd be droid,just curious,bah,and yea,im just waiting for all the roms that are going to be around once the official is out,going to leave for army in 3 weeks so I want something based off the official.Gonna need me something very stable,though I've wanted to try dc1 very badly just don't have access to a pc to backup my files
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
thats what nandroid is for. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] BonQuiQui:
I forsee lots of 2.1 rollouts around the same time period.
[Hero CDMA General] casperlt1:
But if I were to nandroid,then wipe everything(that's just how I do to be safe) to flash DC1 wouldn't I lose that nandroid(along with everything else I want to transfer over to 2.1) I just made on the sdcard?
[Hero CDMA General] mrcharlesiv:
No. Your Nandroid backup is stored on your SD card. The wipe/factory reset only deletes internal memory. The backup will save everything -- even your apps and how you have your screens set up.

If you download something like Titanium Backup or Astro File Manager you can create backups of all your apps so you can then load them onto your 2.1 ROM.
[Hero CDMA General] casperlt1:
Ah nice,I thought about that but what if I had to wipe the ext partition?(it would obviously clear it,right?,is it similar to formatting,I've done it before but formatted to make sure)just read around that you might have to do that to get a2sd working(the whole reason I found out about this).if not I shall try that later on.and I do have mybackup pro,and of course astro

And I realize I'm all over the place,that's just how my thought process works :p

Thanks for the info
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
Partitioning would be the only thing will erase the SD.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
yeah...what the hell is sprint doing here? the hero is it's flagship android device and they treat it like ****.
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
Sprint has always done that. I've had the PPC6700 when it was its flagship phone, a month or so after it came out. They stopped updating it a week after I bought it.

Touch Diamond: same thing.

Now the Hero.

I'm not surprised. Their flagship phones last only as long as the time for the next 'new toy' to come out.
[Hero CDMA General] Tipharet:
Im fairly sure after the announcement of N1 and the rumors of Supersonic (CITA) the hero is no longer a flagship. It took Sprint a long time before picking up Android and IMO I think the hero was released to see customer interest.
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
Agreed.

Cause I will get the SuperSonic the day its released, and the N1 if it happens to appear first. (WiMax is live in my area)
[Hero CDMA General] bitbang3r:
Let's not forget the joy Sprint caused 9 years ago with the Samsung i300... knowing fully well it was scheduled for release ~12 weeks before they rolled out 1xRTT data, they went ahead and had Samsung make it with support only for circuit-switched data, and simply planned to drop it 3-4 months later and replace it with the i330. Rumor has it that they actually placed both orders with Samsung on the same day. Their upper management's rationale was that selling a flagship PalmOS phone that could do 1xRTT before they launched 1xRTT would "confuse" consumers. So instead, they treated the 1xRTT launch date like a state secret, and tricked a few hundred thousand of us into spending an unholy amount of money buying a violently expensive phone that they knew was going to be obsolete less than 3 months later. This, at a time when it was just taken for granted that you were going to be living with that phone for a MINIMUM of two years, if not three, because it was so incredibly expensive (around $500-700 AFTER subsidy, from what I remember).

The only thing that saved Sprint from a class-action lawsuit by livid i300 owners was the fact that all the i330s ended up dying within 3-6 months (fatal firmware flaw that couldn't be fixed, because they decided to have them made with mask ROM instead of flash to save about 25c per phone in manufacturing costs), so almost all of us ended up eventually getting an i500 for the cost of Lockline's $50 deductible.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
well im going to keep my hero until at least summer, then ill buy the nexus one or supersonic. im not due to upgrade until october so ill have to pay full price. ill dump my hero sooner if i get another dust collector or the paint starts chipping like i heard others here say. the hero is a great phone and sprint treats it like ****...wish i could leave sprint but the other networks are too expensive. :mad:
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
Yeah, i signed my first contract to get my hero last october. but i'll go on a ramen only diet for a month to save up the extra cash to buy it outright. i'll be pissed though if i again have to get a more expensive plan. I had the exact same services i do now, just the plan was old, and only cost HALF as much... *sigh* the things i do for my cool little toys.... :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] thezero4:
I can't believe how much people complain about other devices getting 2.1 first. I mean is it really a surprise at all the Droid will get 2.1 first? It's stock android as in no sense UI and had 2.0 so most of the kernel work required for 2.1 was already there. As for being sprint's fault, WTF does the Droid Eris have the official update and I've been sleeping under a rock? Sprint will get the same update the Eris gets probably in the same time window.
[Hero CDMA General] casperlt1:
Ok,so what will I lose in wiping my ext partition? Dc1 isn't booting up and yes I wiped factory and dalvik,but froze on n1 bootscreen about 5 minutes in.saw damage say if it's not booting wipe ext but im not trying to lose pics/files,don't really care about apps cause I have them on my sd card(the actual apks).
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
Wiping ext wipes the apps off you're sdcard
[Hero CDMA General] casperlt1:
Thanks,got dc1 up and running but man I miss swype already :( lol...and the adventure begins now...
[Hero CDMA General] jmglidden:
Swype doesn't work on 2.1?
[Hero CDMA General] casperlt1:
Idk I just put 2.1 on here,ima try now :p
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
It doesn't
[Hero CDMA General] casperlt1:
Oooh it works fine for me :p 1.12 version Ooooo lol
[Hero CDMA General] abcdfv:
The leak or the beta?
[Hero CDMA General] casperlt1:
The one that works :p
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
The beta worked for me. I tried two off of torrents and neither worked properly so i signed up and they immediately sent me a dl link.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rony05:
i bought rooted htc magic with custom room but owner before sold it deleted all sd card. now i cannt access to nandroid/home+ power / .

how can i get those stuff back? do i have to re-root it again?

thank you for any help.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] stuart2008:
What is the detail of your phone? The information of your SPL and RADIO.

Maybe your phone is not flashed recovery.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] KAwAtA:
When you bought it, did he show you that it was rooted before deleting the SD card?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rony05:
radio is 3.22.20.17

spl is 1.33.0009

thank you for reply.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] rony05:
he didnt show me.he deleted before i saw it. he just said it's rooted. i dont know how to check it is rooted.

it has cyanogenMOD 4.2.10.1 ROM in it and superuser icon,spare parts. so i thought it must be rooted .

thank you for help.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] stuart2008:
You cann't access to home+power, maybe your recovery is old. You can flash a recovery for 32A. I think your phone is rooted.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] dk75:
how long do you hold down home+power?

even if there is old recovery it still should be available to open it (not an nadroid thought but oryginal recovery)

if there is old recovery then you must hold down home+power as long as it shows rainbow triangle, then release it and hold down home+power again (if i remember correctly)

if that works and you'll see rainbow triangle then it has oryginal recovery

but for me for example I need to hold down home+power as long as AmonRA recovery shows up - I can't realase it earlier because it just bootup normally without recovery screen
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] KAwAtA:
It appears to be rooted if you're running cyanogenmod and that superuser icon and everything. Is it a 32A or 32B? I agree with what stuart said, maybe you can't get into recovery because it's a 32B running a 32A Radio, meaning you may have to flash a 32A Recovery to your phone.
[Touch2 ROM Development] Weznezz:
Just checked the HTC website and I've just discovered a new ROM for T-Mobile(uk?) users was uploaded yesterday :D

Version 1.33.110.2

Luckily for me I'm a t-mobile user, but I havnt noticed anyone talking about a 1.30+ rom yet :)

EDIT: AS somebody already asked and DID NOT READ TWO POSTS BELOW i'm quoting myself here:

ALSO note that this is for T-Mobile UK branded Mega's ONLY

(you could try using it, but dont complain when your GPRS/mms/etc settings are preconfigured for T-mobile!!)
[Touch2 ROM Development] outrage_uk:
Thanks for this.. looks like the crappy T Mobile release is the best we can hope for. At least YouTube gets its own application, so I don't get the "Finding Network..." error when loading videos from IE :o
[Touch2 ROM Development] Weznezz:
yeah it looks alot better than the last one i downloaded.

Just to note:

The site mentions a new ROM update for your HTC HD2...

I confirm this is for your Touch2/Mega/T3333. It's pretty snappy
[Touch2 ROM Development] outrage_uk:
T Mobile must have paid millions for HTC to lock the Mega with them, this is a really nice phone, especially if you don't want to carry a laptop sized thing (HD2) with you ;)

Why can't they make a single ROM with no branding on it :( (or at least don't block changing the ROM)

... If anything, seeing the bloody T Mobile thing on start up makes me less likely to switch to them, and go to Virgin or stay with O2.
[Touch2 ROM Development] mirost1:
Thanx guys, its something until we get cooked roms, wow :D
[Touch2 ROM Development] lujiang:
Erm, nid help! why i cant download it? they ask me for S/N and i typed in but they say this software is not suitable for you device. my phone is HTC Touch2 T3333
[Touch2 ROM Development] mirost1:
Is it a T-Mobile one? Or not? The phone must be a T-Mobile UK one, you must select United Kingdom in their site and voila.
[Touch2 ROM Development] ton_eighty:
same here...

I'm not from UK but I'm sure it will work in my device. Can someone upload it please?

Lot of thanks.....
[Touch2 ROM Development] hugorfn:
I hope the HTc don´t forget the rest of us....
[Touch2 ROM Development] mirost1:
What do you mean i am not from UK but it will work for sure, how can be sure?
[Touch2 ROM Development] ton_eighty:
?

I believe it's an official rom... so it should work.
[Touch2 ROM Development] mirost1:
It is, but only for UK T-Mobile branded phones. Its not for every HTC Mega.
[Touch2 ROM Development] ton_eighty:
Brands?

I have no Idea about the other brands... My phone was originally in Italian then I was able to Flash it with an WWE Rom.. I don't think that I won't be able to reflash it with the latest rom version released by the other providers...
[Touch2 ROM Development] mirost1:
Then my friend you have not branded mobile phone. That means you must put only WWE updates, this update is only for T-Mobile Phones from UK, when you swich on/off the phone you see T-Mobile, now did you get that this is not for you, wait for the 1.33 WWE version.
[Touch2 ROM Development] ROCIOPAL:
I need help too, I can not download it because they ask me for S/N and i typed it but they say this software is not suitable for my device. my phone is HTC Touch2. Can someone download for me? THANK YOU,
[Touch2 ROM Development] markyy64:
Hi Guys i just updated the Rom and now the phone says no Sim even though there is a Sim in the card tried in another phone and works ok, Any ideas Please. and yes im t-mobile UK

Mark
[Touch2 ROM Development] julian84:
ROM Upgrade for HTC Touch2 (T-Mobile)

An updated ROM is now available for HTC HD2 users to download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience.

where is the mistake in the header or the discription
[Touch2 ROM Development] mirost1:
Description mate, its for Touch2 trust me :D
[Touch2 ROM Development] ton_eighty:
thanks for the enlightenment....

however, based on my experiences for my two remaining devices as seen in my signature.. I used to flash stock roms from other carriers as well as their updates... so why can't i flash the mega???
[Touch2 ROM Development] mirost1:
I didnt say you cant, i say its not good to see T-Mobile at the beggining and everything in the ROM :D
[Touch2 ROM Development] ton_eighty:
Agree...

:D anyway we can disable some things in the registry.....
[Touch2 ROM Development] outrage_uk:
For anyone who would want to try flash a T-Mobile ROM to your HTC Mega, feel free to use this serial : HT01XP102250

h**p://w*w.htc.com/uk/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=903&news_id=584

Why you would want to I do not know - everyone else seems to want HSPL to flash a CID free ROM to there phone :cool:

If anyone could send me a serial number for a UK, unbranded, SIM free HTC Mega I would be gratefull - ive asked HTC Support for an updated Carrier ID free ROM that I can play around with but they want a serial number before they will send me a link ;) Thanks.
[Touch2 ROM Development] htcshane19:
T-Mobile ROM Update - 1.33.110.2

- Added Youtube app

- Added Bing search widget

- Blue font in messaging thread

Anyone found anything else ???