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[HD2 General] AllTheWay:
Wow that's very nice price.

Yeah that is a nice phone but to bad it's on Sprint.

For 445 you can of buy another HD from T-Mobile then pay $20 to unlock it and still use it with AT&T.
[HD2 General] Lord-Audie:
I wonder if with the announcement of the HTC Evo, android 2.1 will be ported to the HD2....
[HD2 General] Cheeze[iT]:
is it going to be safe to hardspl and flash a rom? Im getting mixed answers... I'm going to camp my T-mobile in the morning
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
How could you desecrate the phone by using only Edge :eek:
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Why listen to hearsay, go straight to the source http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611433 :cool:

As of posting, 1024Leos aren't supported.
[HD2 General] babyhemi:
I imagine many are going to do what I am doing in the morning getting 2 HD2's for $199. I still cannot believe this deal!! :D
[HD2 General] aceo07:
Wonder if I can use Bing Cashback with ordering HD2 online. It's supposed to be 35% off on qualified purchases from t-mobile.com

hmm. It seems like when I go through Bing, it logs me out of my T-Mobile account. If I log into T-Mobile, then the bing cashback icon doesn't show anymore. If I try to buy the TP2, it qualifies, but then T-Mobile forces me to add a plan even when the phone is purchased off contract. :p So that means a min of $60 + $35 activation for EM+ plan. 35% off of $450 is about $290. So total of $385. Tack on overnight shipping.. :) About $400. So if it works, it would save ~$50.

Maybe someone can verify when the HD2 is available for purchase on the t-mobile.com website.
[HD2 General] AllTheWay:
Not such a big deal if you only have EDGE where you live and work. Or you can just get a microcell from AT&T and have 3G in your house.

I purchased a non branded HTC HD from China for 775 when it first came out and only had EDGE with AT&T. I definitely know what it feels like to have a powerful device and only use EDGE.
[HD2 General] nieves53:
i been getting no

i been getting a no for BOGO @ tmobile, radio shack san jose stores... radio shack offer me $149 per phone and $50 for trade in of any phone. is anyone getting this?
[HD2 General] ~~Tito~~:
Wirefly has an even better deal lol. 99.99 for an HD2 :eek:.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
You need to tell your mom to get with the program Tito!
[HD2 General] OCedHrt:
I don't have a T-mobile account so cannot verify completely, but accounts I'm reading online seem to say the same. I tried to get it with a FlexPay account so that there is no activation, but at checkout I get the following:

Order Incomplete

We are currently reviewing your order number XXXXXXXXX and may require additional information. To complete your order, please call 1-800-672-5390 at your earliest convenience. Our customer service agents are available Monday through Friday, 5:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. PT, and Saturday and Sunday, 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. PT. Holiday hours may vary.

Completing the order by phone obviously invalidates the Bing cashback.
[HD2 General] skr_xd:
Will the T-Mob HD2 support 3G band 2100?

In other terms, will it support 3G in India and Dubai where the 3G band is 2100.

Because i have seen that the basic difference from European version is in 3G band freq only.

From the US dev Spec sheet it is given it supports 1700/2100 3G freq.
[HD2 General] 10332007:
Well that was a bust lol, 12 - 14 people in line and only 4 phones :rolleyes: Oh well.
[HD2 General] Goatmaster:
As of 10:00 AM in Gainesville, FL still had a few. I got one for use on ATT and they made me buy a ~70 no contract month to month plan plus the 450. On the way home I called (with my ATT phone) and canceled my contract and they said they would mail me a check since I didn't use the plan at all. Actually I told the lady at T-Mobile I would set it up myself and she forgot to give me a sim card :) Anyways maybe ATT users can get out of the silly contract if they don't use the plan at all.
[HD2 General] aceo07:
WTF. My local stores are charging $479. :p

The stores in the city seem to be only charging $450. BUT they're all sold out.
[HD2 General] mZimm:
If you do this it is likely that you would have to keep the T-Mobile contract for two months since Bing Cashback is pending for 60 days before it is available for cashout. This would end up being essentially the same price as buying the phone outright for $450 plus tax at a retail location.
[HD2 General] :
Got mine

Live in lexington, ky...got mine from RadioShack...$149.99 with new line, and got a $20 RadioShack gift card with it lol...pity that they only had one phone for sale in the store...I got there right as they opened and as soon as I signed the receipt machine at least half a dozen people walked in asking about it. :D
[HD2 General] skr_xd:
Please someone who know the answer please reply....

i need to decide my order based on this only.......
[HD2 General] mZimm:
From T-Mobile's spec sheet:

Band (frequency):	850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
[HD2 General] Cheeze[iT]:
Woot. My HD2 is in my hands! was the first in line :) Store had 16 of them
[HD2 General] aceo07:
I just got it. It seems like local stores just have signs saying $479. It WILL ring up at $450. Tricky bastards. Probably to deter people who want to buy the phone without contract. It seems to work a bit.
[HD2 General] Svegetto:
if you read reviews about wirefly, they tend to be very very bad/negative, so just be careful.

Also, is the store doing buy one get one free for $200?? (that's what I thought 2 people said). I just ordered my via phone (no Tmobile store in my current area) and have to wait 7bussiness days, which suks (they should have done what at&t does with iphones where it arrives same day as they can sell it in stores).
[HD2 General] Digi1080p:
Just got mine from T-Mobile
[HD2 General] MadLinx:
Got Mine @ 10am... Customizing right now! :D
[HD2 General] MDANavymom:
I ordered mine for my daughter and I this morning about 6am, should have them tomorrow...paid $217 ea for them. Can't wait to get them!
[HD2 General] rickyoon.vegas:
just got it too.

Yay.
[HD2 General] nemo0405:
got it! now waitin 4 hspl
[HD2 General] EF7:
I got mine this morning, weird how the phone is more expensive on the long run if you get a 2 year contract. I paid full price $449 for mine

No Contract $449.99

500 minutes, unlimited web and txt $59.99 month

Total over 24 months $1889.75

Cancel anytime no penalty

2 Year Contract $199.99

500 minutes, unlimited web and txt $79.99 month

Total over 24 months $2119.75

Cancel the contract early you have to pay the 200+ penalty

Can someone explain the logic behind their pricing policy? I just don't get it.
[HD2 General] bored2nite:
Yes it is quite simple. TMobile does not have to make money back on the phone so we are able to save YOU money in the long run. That my friend is the theory behind having a contract. NOW... what u may NOT realize.. is in one year you are going to want a new phone. The contracted plans allow you to get a discount on the phone every YEAR now (you still sign another 2 year contract) but don't have to wait the 2 years to upgrade to a smartphone.

So.. now you decide... have no contract and stay with the phone for two years....

or pay more a month because I save $250 on a phone every year... WP7S anyone?
[HD2 General] skr_xd:
Do they give the handset alone without any plan?? for 449?
[HD2 General] aceo07:
Yup. They do.
[HD2 General] skr_xd:
Thanks friend.
[HD2 General] EF7:
I understand, the only benefit is that you get a new phone at a discount rate 1 year after your u current contract for initial contract but that extends your current contract to 2 years now.

By signing a contract you would only save $60 over a 12 month period but still be stuck with at least 12 months of contract.
[HD2 General] vamarris:
Got mine for $248.88 at Wal-Mart! though ppl might want to know!
[HD2 General] alefsin:
I ordered mine online and used %35 Bing cash back:

No Contract $449.99

Cash back $157.50

500 minutes, unlimited web and txt $59.99 month

Total over 24 months $1732.25

Cancel anytime no penalty

That should be the best mobile phone under $300 in the world :)
[HD2 General] mn3kgtvr4:
sweet phone, went from Xperia on ATT to HD2 on TMo. Over the last 6 mo or so TMo finally caught up to same coverage in my area as ATT and I get to save about $40/mo on equivalent family plan since I paid outright for the phone. No contract is nice.
[HD2 General] mystik610:
I guess it depends how loyal you are to your carrier. I signed a 2 year contract knowing there's a good possibility I'll be wanting to upgrade a year from now.

On the other hand, I've been with T-mobile since they were voicestream (over 10 years now?), with only a one year break when I tried out Cingular (now AT&T), and got out of there as soon as I could.
[HD2 General] chaoscentral:
OMG I'm loving this phone oh so much. Felt like the coolest kid on the block when I got back from my lunch break with an HD2, every one was impressed, even the iPhone fanboys lol. That was in stock trim mind you, can't wait to see what this baby can do with some custom ROM action once an HSPL is available for the 1024LEO.

Hands down best phones I've owned so far.
[HD2 General] t69broken:
walmart

So if you check the walmart website now they are selling the bad boy for 99 with new contract and 299 for renewal. think this is the cheapest so far.
[HD2 General] aceo07:
I would have gone that route, but I already have EM+ plan with T-Mobile. So I'd need to sign up again to order it online. Then cancel current one and transfer number. I wasn't sure it'd be worth the hassle and risk that Bing CB might invalidate itself.
[HD2 General] Drunken1:
I'm Currently Month to Month with Tmobile, and I have Tzones. Not Really trying to lose my Tzones, Currently have an unlocked Omnia I900. Bing Cash Back would be great, but I cannot and will not give up Tzones. It will hurt up front, but, I've gotten used to not being under contract, and I'm not in a hurry to go back. I'll try to pick one up for the $450 Retail this weekend. Unless Someone can suggest a way I can get in one of these deals without sacrificing Tzones?
[HD2 General] alefsin:
I never had a problem with Bing CB before. It is a bit slow (both in announcing that your transaction is validated and also to actually pay you back) but I never missed a transaction.

I was also lucky in the sense that I'm currently using a prepaid T-mobile SIM-card. I'm using Google voice and give that number to everyone so changing phone numbers was not a big issue for me. Most probably I'll cancel my new EM+ after the first month. Prepaid is enough for me (I use less than 100 minutes a month) and I always have access to WiFi where I am.
[HD2 General] vikramdhani:
So i have to get a new plan in order to get the deal ? what about i get a new EM+ plan and disconnect it after a month do i still get to keep the phone and get the bing cash back or there is a certain limit of time i have to keep the line active in order for me to get the money ?
[HD2 General] vikramdhani:
I dont think so it will make sense to use the bing if you already have an account with Tmobile because then it wil be lots of hassale so i am planning to keep my phone that i bought @ a regular price
[HD2 General] mZimm:
For those of you asking about Bing CB, I would advise keeping the contract/EM+ plan that you sign up for for at least 2 months because the cashback will be pending for 60 days before you get it. This kind of defeats the good deal of getting the Bing cashback, but if you cancel the plan there's a decent chance Bing would cancel the cashback while it is still pending.
[HD2 General] vikramdhani:
Well i agree with you because Tmobile needs to make money in order for CB to pay out but if they dont make money there is no payout
[HD2 General] Earthbrain:
I cannot order the phone with Bing cash back. When I go to cart, it would not let me buy the phone only. It says that I have to buy a plan with it. All I want is the phone only for $499.99 but it would not let me buy it.

I hate to go to the local store because I won't get the Bing cash back.
[HD2 General] alefsin:
I'm afraid Bing CB only works when you get the phone and a plan.
[HD2 General] Earthbrain:
I guess I have to fork out the whole $449.99 for this phone.
[HD2 General] DSmithZ28:
Anyone Sim Unlock it yet for the US?

I came across this in another thread and it looks REALLY promising but I don't have a IMEI yet cause I don't have the device. (Mine is backorder)

http://leo.unlock-now.com/sim-unlock-T-Mobile-HTC-HD2/
[HD2 General] Flame3g:
just picked mine up this morning...love it so far
[HD2 General] j23a45m:
me to got mine 930am havent stoped messing with it yet
[HD2 General] alefsin:
I'm not sure it's true. Bing CB is for the phone not for the plan. In other words, CB is for this specific smartphone not for your whole transaction (e.g. you don't get CB for the activation fee or shipping). Unless you return the phone and take your money back, there is no reason you should not get your CB.
[HD2 General] rickytr23:
I got mine I love it :D
[HD2 General] vikramdhani:
Well i like the phone but all i need to do is to get a custom rom on it and i will be good to go
[HD2 General] rjwisniewski:
I'm in love with this phone. I've had a G1, myTouch 3G, almost every BlackBerry that T-Mo has offered, but this phone is AMAZING. Got it at 9:20 A.M. this morning on my way to work. The store I manage is only getting two HD2s and they haven't arrived yet.
[HD2 General] vikramdhani:
The only thing now i want is a toggle swtich to turn on and off 3G
[HD2 General] copualt3:
the HD2 is an amazing and awesome device. I am torn between which phone to use Nexus one or Tmobile HD2. for now it's in the HD2 since the big screen is too hot. Thank you Tmobile hot shot for bringing the HD2 and now please bring the HTC EVO of HD3 with android.
[HD2 General] HushH:
I agree with you - technically this should be the case. The Bing cash back is offered on the phone purchase, not the plan purchase. So unless you return the phone, you should still get the cash back even if you cancel the plan.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if you ran into issues with this. I would think they'd still have to honor the cash back, you just may have to jump through a few hoops to get it honored.
[HD2 General] :
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=502980
[HD2 General] vikramdhani:
If this works then i can wait for the custom roms for a while :) thanks and i will report back after i try it
[HD2 General] nightryder21:
Just got my wife and I the HD2 a few hours ago.
[HD2 General] DotheTP2:
HD2 Rocks! BCB Rocks!

I've ordered 2 (for myself and wife). I'm sooooo excited :D:p:D

Bing Cash Back is little doubtful since it does not show on my account. I'll have to wait 48hours before I can really check in to it with customer's reps at Bing.com.:(

It is little pain dealing with BCB from T-Mobile. It happened last time I've purchased new phones, but Bing.com on facebook were fast reponse and to the point. They took care of me fast last time. :D

I can't wait. :p
[HD2 General] skr_xd:
Custom Cooked ROM for T-Mob US.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=652649
[HD2 General] addicus:
Just took advantage of the BOGO deal today and ordered 2 for $199 total. The anticipation is great. Funny part is I wasn't going to get my wife one and she got all jealous and stuff, "Why do you get the pretty phone with the gigantic screen and I get the ghetto scrubby phone?". She is catching my obsession and I love it.
[HD2 General] skr_xd:
Premium version of the ROM is online now;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Fa310tx:
Hello...

My question is simple. There was a big emulator push from like 2003-2006, but it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of talk about it anymore. FpseCe is the only thing that I can find that's very active.

FpseCe...

This is a wonderful playstation emulator. Since v0.10 was released, around Christmas, the compatibility went through the roof. v0.9.6 played 1 game (Front Mission 3) out of the 10-15 that I tried. Even at that, it crapped after about 4 hours due to some video chunk.

Now, of those same 10-15 games, only 2 don't work. The rest were able to get, at least, to the first save-game spot. Front Mission 3 was able to get past the video chunk, but it does crash fairly often. I just save more often then I would otherwise. As it's not a consistent crashing (like the aforementioned video), I can play it right over.

You can spend a few bucks and get save/load, whenever you want.

My omnia gives me about full-speed in 2d and about third-speed in 3d. My vogue was quarter-speed to third-speed all around.

Another nice thing is that the saves should be compatible with some other windows psx emulators. I haven't tried it, so I can only speculate.

PocketGBA...

This has been dead for years, but it is still the top gba emulator, that I know of. I was able to complete Final Fantasy Tactics Advance on my vogue. It would crash with certain parts, consistently, but I could transfer my save to VisualBoyAdvance and get past it. Then I would just resave and continue on my phone. It was about quarter-speed to half-speed on my vogue.

I would really like to see further development of this platform. If we can get full-speed with a psx, certainly we should be able to with gba.

Morphgear...

I thought this was going to be a pretty hot item, but it seems like it died out a few years ago, too. Given that it's module-based, I would have thought the people would keep pushing them out.

Nintendo Ds...

Now here's the big issue. Before people start saying that it could never happen, please remember the 200mh cpu from 5 years ago and people saying that you could never do something better when snes wasn't smooth. I think current hardware and screen resolution would be plenty for a good coder, yet I haven't heard of a single attempt.

There is a version of ubuntu that was being developed for the omnia (omnibuntu), but it has ceased. It was straight linux, no layered on top of winmo. It could be possible to load a linux-based nds emulator on top of that.

So, that's what I know about it. What do you guys know about it? Is there a plan on the horizon that isn't being actively discussed, or are things pretty stale in this area?

JJ
[Windows Mobile Software Development] frmariam:
The PocketPC (especially most new models) seriously lack hw buttons. A PS1 emulator will always be greatly impaired by this... Scilor developed a way to control a ppc by using another ppc via bluetooth but it's not a practical solution to achieve mobile emulation (you'd need to always carry 2 WinMo phones with you...).

NDS emulation is pretty unfeasable (even the emulator available for laptops/desktops are far from perfection... not to mention that they are extremelly heavy). No current pocket pc has the capabilities to emulate the NDS in a way that would actually be playable.

I'm currently more concerned about old-school console emulation.

The platform doesn't even have good nes, snes, gb/gbc, gg/sms and genesis active projects (these are the platforms I care most).

A free GBA emulator would be a great thing. A port of the gpSP would most likely be the best approach (as was done in the iPhone). The original gpSP was MIPS (PSP) but there are some arm implementations (like the ones for the GP2X and Wiz).

The GBA module and lack of emulators with decent onscreen controls is what made Morphgear thrive (but lets face the fact that the majority of the users are pirating those). Seems like Morphgear has gone open-source: sourceforge project page

I keep hoping that someone will eventually update those old emulator sources that still exist... Most of them just need oncreen controls and resolution related fixes (and by crossing source components between them this could be achieved).

Here are some websites that have pocket pc emulators:

- MorphGear: famous emulator GUI and framework (OSS)

- PocketSnes (OSS)

- PocketNester (OSS)

- ScummVM (OSS)

- n0p: genesis, snes and dosbox ports/mods (OSS)

- emu193:genesis, nes, snes, gb/gbc pots/mods (OSS)

- nyagosu homepage: list of ppc emulators and resources

- emulation9: list of ppc emulators and resources

- Zophar's Domain: list of ppc emulators and resources

Here is a big list of sources I compiled (most resources are from projects mentioned above).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Fa310tx:
FpseCe has great on-screen button support (I use left analog, l1/l2/r2/r1, start/select, and shapes). You can go anywhere from 3x4 to 6x7 (I think). Plus, it can have separate portrait buttons. I think it's what all other emulators should base on.

Also, with any emulator, that supports hardware buttons, you can use a bluetooth gamepad (Msi Bgp100, for instance).

The lack of a proper d-pad almost canned the omnia for me. I came from the htc vogue. The extra power of the omnia and fpsece's onscreen buttons made the decision. I miss the d-pad, but it's not a deal-breaker. Unfortunately, I can't do much with other emulators because of it.

PocketNester and n0p's PocketSnes have given me fine results on my vogue. It's possible that a 200mh TI chip wouldn't fare as well. The vogue is a 400mh qualcomm. My omnia is a 624mh marvell.

JJ
[Windows Mobile Software Development] matejdro:
Is there actually ANY active emulator for ANY console except FpsCe?

I found that morphgear itself is active. I think last version was even released in 2010. But its emulation modules are from 2007, which makes it old junk. It sucks how can 67MHz DS have far greater gb emulator than 500+ MHz devices.

Thats why i love models with HW keyboard. Its awesome to play old-school games on HW keyboard and looking friend how he can press only one button once on his omnia :D

P.S.: good idea for thread
[Windows Mobile Software Development] frmariam:
@matejdro

An unfortunate truth... Every Windows Mobile emulation project (apart from FpseCE and ScummVM) is dead afaik...

I arrived too late to the scene... The Omnia is my first PDA (and at the time the options were it and the HTC Diamond... an easy choice). I don't like hw qwerty's very much because they are bulky (I don't quite need a keyboard but would have much appreciated a dpad).

@Fa310tx

The Vogue has a hw dpad. If you compare that with the lousy virtual mouse/dpad on the Omnia... I'm also on an Omnia and I can tell that using only the screen doesn't work.

Also these phones are (W)QVGA. Most of these old emulator simply won't work on (W)VGA or will have serious display problems.

The gsensor also doesn't feel right as an ultimate alternative (at least gpad wasn't that great to use with emulators). You need a precise directional control.

For the most recent devices I feel like the best alternative would be to playing in landscape placing the dpad on-screen and assigning the other major buttons to the few hw keys. I asked n0p some months ago to add something like this to his emulators but he said he wasn't interested.

The sources exist... But the WinMo platform isn't very popular and it has lost many great devs to the iPhone and Android scene... We need someone willing to give them a much needed update. I believe it would't take too much work or coding experience to make them usable again. Since I can't code all I can do is search and gather information and source (not enough... but better than nothing... at least the sources won't be lost).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Fa310tx:
Hmmm...

I hadn't considered turning the omnia the other direction. I'm a classic d-pad guy, so the phone should always be landscape right (d-pad on the left). It irritated me that the volume buttons were on the wrong side. I never thought to use, what should be, the d-pad button as an action button. Unfortunately, though, that only gives 3 and the psx has 4.

I, also, tried the motion sensor for movement. It worked, decently, in Front Mission 3, but I'd still rather use the on-screen analog stick.

The cool thing about FpseCe is that it saves the on-screen and hardware button configurations for each game. In Front Mission 3, I use the left analog stick for movement, but that doesn't work with some other games. I can save an on-screen d-pad for that.

JJ