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[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] zeroSIXzero:
Android here I come

This is so very strange.

So maybe the UI will be a tad better than iPhone, but WHY copy the iPhone on all the BAD stuff?

I'm very dissapointed.

There is no more reason to stick with wimMo after winMo7 is released.

Marked will never become good for the 6.5 because the focus will be on winmo7.

So, Android, here I come.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Savage-wp:
I think microsoft have lost the plot.

I use copy and paste all the time, in the file explorer and with documents.

If it does not have copy/paste, then it's pretty useless. Will have to stick with 6.5, but if development of apps for 6.5 stops, then i guess android is the way to go.

I prefer an OS to be functional. There are many apps/skins to make it look good.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vladimir2989:
so dear Microsoft if i get e-mail from some one with text like :

"could you meet Mr. Matheabthukul from the airport"

and then someone else ask: "can you text me the name of the guy you meeting?"

which part of "data-detection service built into the text-handling API" will spell that name in to new text message ?

we could copy stuff on dumbphones years ago, please dont revolutionise things like wormy Apple did, (((WOW u can now copy and past 3 generations of OS it took them... ))) and don't reinvent the wheel...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] KB24@CL:
What is Microsoft smoking in the developers room?

elementary stuff are missing...wtf.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] troed:
Problem is: ALL comapnies develop what the MARKET demands (= the majority of the users).

The majority is not WE here but the hundred thousands of people that just wanna take their cell-phone outa the box and use it without crashes, listen to music, watch Youtube, take photos and vids and don´t wanna have to do anything with fiddling around in setup menus and accidentally activate or deactivate or delete features.

And since iPhone is the "standard" MS just copies it

WE here are a little minority and MS will never ever listen to OUR demands.

It´s sad, but reality always is ...................:D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] labale25:
seems like they have been smoking from an apple bong ;) :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] TheHutt:
Unless they also cut multitasking, this OS will not be good enough.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vladimir2989:
i was sure, its illegal to be high at work place...

even they added Copy&paste to the iPhone

i guess we will have to find the unspeakable: Jailbreaking WM7P and Cydia for WM7 etc...

welcome to hell... this is the beginning of the end for XDA as it is...

i guess after WM7 take off not many Classic WM6.X devices will b out and as they become outdated, what will happen to this place ?

since XDA don't permit Cracking of the soft...

(PS this is only my thoughts, it will probably just turn in to How to Make WM7 a smart-phone again :) )
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Moandal:
I don't see this as a bad thing. It just confirms my belief that:

1) No WP7S upgrade for the HD2 is no big deal

2) My next phone will run Android.

By the way, did I really read that WP7S will not support external SD cards? If so, MS really are building their own mobile coffin.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] tonycosta:
Until reading this I was looking forward to wm7.

All the apple fans wont know what to do when they have the option of a apple iphone or a windows iphone.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] mazzarin:
I think there is a bit of difference between OS copy/paste and text-selection copy/paste. Though from what I understand, the only way to get to an OS copy/paste function is through 'jailbreaking' since filesystem access will be minimized. :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] UncleBeer:
Simple: Bill Gates is overtly killing off the WinMo portion of his kingdom, and he's gonna wait for the Obama bailout. :D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] abmantis:
So... Let's just make Android run fine in our HD2, shall we? :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] wazaaappp:
that's right, another extra point to stick on 6.5 or android :).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
Store counter: Sir, which phone do you want to buy?

Mr. Dude: I want to buy an iPhone please ...

Store counter: Right, which iPhone? Apple iPhone or Windows iPhone 7 Series?

Mr. Dude: Hey, that's new, what's the difference?

Store counter: Apple iPhone has copy paste function, Windows iPhone does not. The rest are the same.

Mr. Dude: Hmm, give me Apple iPhone please ...

:D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] havox22:
lol thats prolly the funniest thing ive read on this forum
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Audio Oblivion:
ok thats it...

thats the final straw.

i am a die hard windows mobile guy but this takes the piss.

first no removable storage... then no multi-tasking for third party apps... then only 3 front facing buttons... now this.

there is no way i could ever recommend WP7S to anyone when it hits the streets in its current form.

To me it looks like it will fail bigtime. MS are trying to grab a hold of the normal user base (ie/ everyone that either owns or wants an iPhone)..... unfortunately there is no way in hell that any of those people would ever want a WP7S handset over Apples offering. Why would they? Anyone got a reason? ANYONE?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] constructorx:
You must obay Micro$oft.

WP7S is a drones machine. A non-thinking tweeters mp3 player. It is NOT an OS. It is a development environment on top of a locked down OS.

NO API access

NO MicroSD memory

NO 3rd party apps outside appstore (M$ commission made on each app)

I am pro-actively AGAINST WP7S from now on. I can .net c#... maybe I will learn a different language.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vagrik:
MY NEXT PHONE TOO... Android...

Bye Bye Microsoft!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Peteret:
No navigable file system

No USB file storage (no micosd cards!)

No cut & Paste

Senerio:

1. Copy over text file onto sd card from client.

2. Copy & paste text from file into email to send off

3. Securely delete the text file.

None of this is possible with WM7.

How absurd.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] lucid:
Maybe a stupid question for a Compaq Aero ... ... .. > HTC Touch HD2 owner...

Does Windows Phone 7 let me install and use TomTom.

MS is on ICE, Crack and certainly not on weed or mushrooms.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vladimir2989:
if somehow some one will port WM7 on to HD2 it may be the best wm& device as it have external memory card etc... and maybe someone will jailbreak it and make file explorer and copy and paste support, wishful thinking :)

lets hope for the best and Microsoft will run out of weed before they release this smart-phone wannabe...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Ganondolf:
the first one wont matter as u wont have a sd card
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Ganondolf:
yes u will be able to use tomtom or any other satnav. u will have to re-buy tomtom for wm7s

ms said they are not including any nav system but there partners can, also u can buy software as u have gps built in the phone
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] saints5354:
Don't Worry about System file locked down, just get some info from Microsuxk web site:

Soon, M$ will release a sync programe call "WinTunes" , u can only transfer a mp3, music video using "WinTunes", this sound great ppl.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gom99:
If I don't end up getting wp7 phone, I think I'm leaning WebOS or something like the n900...something about google, doesn't rub me the right way.

Or I might just ditch phones all together, get a Courier-like device and install skype on it. I don't use my phone for talking all that much anyway. I'm not really happy with the way phones are moving in general...devices are getting stronger faster and less power consumption, but moving further away from the technical audience. I'm more of an UMPC user than a phone user, but I don't want to carry 2 devices unless there's nice courier-style functionality that comes with it.

I don't like the trend though. We're moving from openness and diversity to closeness and uniformity. It's apparent that the Entertainment division of MS are more Apple inspired than the old guard of Windows Mobile. More style over substance.

I don't need a nanny telling me I shouldn't multitask, if I want to ruin my battery life it's my concern. It should be an option turned off for the general user. I'd have no problem going into settings and turning on all the things they want to limit for the general user. That's the correct solution to this problem than setting hard artificial limits.

File System - On

Multitasking - On

While it doesn't look like WP7S is for me, I hope it does well. It does seem better than the iphone to me and I hope it does well in the general consumer market. I am interested in developing for it, so I might have to buy one anyway, lol.

Sorry for the rant, I'm not really mad about anything MS has done, just kind of upset they seem to be turning away from business/tech market.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] rdude:
"Acid" is just a street name for LSD...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vangrieg:
I think such things inevitably come and go in waves...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] paalkr:
I agree, I use copy / paste all the time when answering text messages. I think that the HD2 with sense 2.5 will be a good solution until I change to an android device in approx one year.

Regards,

PK
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] tigerpower:
please vote: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/7seriesphoneboycott
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] nsane:
As soon as HTC or any other manufacturer brings to market a full QWERTY (possibly tilting) snapdragon Android device...I am gone.

Seriously WP7 is starting to sound retarded.

No SD cards.

No access to file system

No real Multitasking

No cut and Paste

and the list goes on and on.

Perhaps WP7, but currently I don't see who buy WP7 over say an iPhone.

I went with WinMo because it was a completely open platform; guess I am not the customer MS is looking for.

Bye bye.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] fortunz:
If you didn't answer LSD, you don't understand the hipster dufus culture that MS imported from their Zune division. And yes, that is new age music wafting in from the background.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Divine_Madcat:
I voted for everything, because they must be, to try to pass off some crappy looking squares and text falling off pages as a good UI...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] jagan2:
Ms is copying iphone that may be good thing but what are they copying ? Only the cons of iphone instead of improving ms is going back to stone age. Iam sure ms is seeing all these from a community which has more than 5 million members. They must change their policy before the release.

First they removed multitasking, then file explorer, then no sd card now no copy pasting then its not a windows product, windows product has always been revolutionary and user freindly they listen to people in windows 7 to they listened to us in beta and rtm now....
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] WhyBe:
I, for one, want to wait and here the details of the alternative methods they have in store for copy and paste. Maybe things are structured in such a way that traditional cop/paste, as we know it, is no longer necessary. Maybe it will be up to each app to provide it's own copy/paste functionality? Otherwise, I don't understand why they would not include it. I need more details before I started bashing MS.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] JoeTheFro:
I hope to god this is not the reason why copy and paste was cut from WinMo 7

Apple IS A JERKFACE

THIS TOO
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] WhyBe:
Apple's patent looks like something more useful in a desktop application. Besides, cut & paste existed long before there was an iPhone. I don't see how that patent has any effect on the rest of the industry.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Wilhelm:
I vote for all of them but it's more like apple juice.:D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] JoeTheFro:
Well, thats the big joke.. we may have all been happily using these features... but then Apple turns around and slaps a patent on it cause no one else has and now blocked future stuff from being able to use it.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] fortunz:
Our patent system is a little broke, but there is a bar against patenting things in public use in the US more than 1 year before filing. Apple cannot patent "copy and paste", nor can anyone else. Apple wants a patent on automatically incl. a citation along with the pasted info, and even that is probably questionable. Filed in 2005, but MS OneNote did it by 2003 at least and I'm sure others before that.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] JoeTheFro:
Yah, i am just having a tough time wrappin my head around how MS could skip on a basic feature... and seeing how apple was awarded the patent for the lockscreen in feb of this year was also a bit funny (Date on the first one listed).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] fortunz:
One of the reasons Apple is suing HTC (a very successful, but relatively new mover and shaker) is to avoid having their patents challenged too much by suing someone with a larger patent portfolio. Just because you are issued a patent doesn't mean you'll receive its protection. Lots of patents get declared invalid after the holder tries to sue for infringement with it and the alleged infringer starts defending themselves.

I don't know enough about the history of lockscreens to know if that patent could survive, but I do know if Apple really goes to war with all other smartphone makers, they're going to lose some of their patent portfolio in the process (what is more likely are out of court settlements). Apple made noise about suing Palm over WebOS around Pre launch time, and Palm said "bring it", because while they aren't in great shape today, Palm practically created the mobile computing space and they have a huge patent portfolio that they collected while doing it. Apple backed down quickly.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] JoeTheFro:
Yah, i get all that, just funny that they have the balls to try it..

This just "sorta" in : Enough people yell, and you will be heard
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Ev0luti0n_:
hahahaha i voted for LSD! hallucination for sure! :D like i said on a previous thread of mine... I am going for an HD2 with WM 6.5.3 :D It does everything i could every want or need, so why bother? :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] willl:
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20100318/windows-phone-7-series-will-have-copy-paste-eventually/
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] glyndal:
lolwut

here's hoping that the new Zune will have the xbox live capabilities. besides xbox live, i can't see a single reason to get wp7s.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] njao:
is the not be able to copy and paste set in stone somewhere??? geez its 6 months until it gets released... and thats really why xda exists to make it better! go devs, cooks and haxers :P a stupid thing like copy and paste wont get me to chose the little green leprechaun!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sm3rtlag3l:
lol @njao what are YOU smokin'?!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] njao:
the same as you only i had a good trip XD
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] imtiyazee:
microsoft loss is android gain !
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] JoeTheFro:
The disabled non-marketplace apps is not set in stone. MS mentioned that companies would have the ability to load thier custom biz apps without going through the marketplace. those details are just not yet fully released.

So, there is that door for getting homebrew apps in there... we just dont know what steps need to be taken yet.
[Hero CDMA General] dennistpm:
Has anyone figured out how to route audio to the bluetooth earpiece on the 2.0/2.1 ROMs? In the 1.5 ROMs you only had to press ** then Dial to do this, but this doesn't work on Damage Control v1.0. I like to use this when I'm using Sprint Navigation so I can hear it better. I've searched the marketplace and no luck.
[Hero CDMA General] lugose:
Bump. I haven't seen a solution for this, but this was one of my favorite tricks on the 1.5 roms. Anyone have any ideas?
[Hero CDMA General] RTessi:
interesting thread, i'm eagerly listening as I go back and forth between my blueant and jawbone and this pertains to my jawbone on the days when its chosen...

if not, buy a blueant Q1... it has A2DP functionality in a single ear headset...

my blueant connects to 1.5 for both media and phone without the ** trick...

R
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] esseff:
The Telstra ROM for Australia has fianlly been released. Has anyone tried it yet? Feed back would be appreciated. Sense UI or TouchFlo, Telstra customizations, etc.??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
I'm happy to load it up and give it a go. Downloading now from here http://www.htc.com/au/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=901&news_id=583.

I see it has a new radio version too - 4.49.25.77

Getting **** download speed from HTC server though - 10.2 kb/sec. Says the download will take 4 hrs! And I thought rapidshare was bad :)

Update: 32 minutes to go and HTC have brought out 3 new phone models since the download commenced :))
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] esseff:
Try the US server it is much quicker. I always find US downolads much quicker than Asian or Euopean - for anything.

I have the new "Unofficial" HTC SenseUI ROM which I like, so I don't want to try the Telstra one unless it is good. It suggests there is no Telstra customisation (a good thing).

I am not sure if the current ROM I am using is NextG compatible so that is the main reason for my interest in the Telstra one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
I think as long as the device is 850 mhz compatible then the ROM doesn't matter as far as NextG is concerned. The new radio version might be interesting though if it's especially written for the 850 mhz model. Anyway, I'll let you know what it's got shortly. I read somewhere that it's got a 'My Phone' tab in Sense that accesses stuff like Foxtel etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
OK, so here's the lowdown....

Windows Version: 21881.5.0.84

Sense 2.1 19221417.0

Tabs: Home, People, Messages, Email, Downloads, Telstra Applications, TV, News and Sport, Internet and Search, Camera, Music, Calendar, Settings, Favourites, Weather, Stocks.

Yukky Telstra light blue wallpaper on Sense tabs (you can change it of course).

Hard to talk about reliability, but ROM appears to be very snappy, although older type 6.5 with 'start' at the top left.

Not sure why they would release a 'new' ROM with Sense 2.1 when the official HTC update contains Sense 2.5.

If you're a Telstra customer looking to access all of the Telstra Apps/Services then the ROM might be worth a look. If you're interested in cutting edge stuff, then give it a miss.

As mentioned earlier it does contain a radio that isn't in our sticky - 4.49.25.77 - so that might be worth ripping out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] esseff:
Thx... think I will stick with what I have.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Can someone post a mirror or even a serial number for it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Blackfyre:
radio please!

I assume this radio would provide better reception in Australia, I am a Three customer, if I download this ROM, I wouldn't be able to use all the telstra apps WOULD I??? like watch TV, FOX and all the fancy apps that telstra has pre-installed in the mobile device.... IF NOT! then can someone please get the radio out and post it in the radio section, would be appreciated by those of us who live "down under"... thnx in return!! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
I'll upload it to Rapidshare when I get home from work (+ about 10 hrs from this post)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Great, much appreciated. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
uploading now....

here: http://rapidshare.com/files/3649242...Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.77_Signed_Ship.exe.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nackas:
Any luck on the upload? I'm just grabbing it now from HTC, and happy to upload it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
link up now - sorry for the delay - got stuck playing tennis on the wii :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nackas:
Haha no stress.. I thought I'd upload it hotfile anyway just incase, so now we also have a mirror :D

http://hotfile.com/dl/33386735/1766...Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.77_Signed_Ship.exe.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cr1960:
can never have too many download options.....

I've posted the link into the radio sticky as well in case someone there wants to rip the radio from it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Thanks for the mirrors:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kkks:
thank you very much for this ROM. Very much appreciated.

I bought the HTC Tilt2 (AT&T) version of internet, and I am on the Telstra Next G network. It makes my life easier.

(Once my iPhone contract ends, I will switch it to Telstra Next G.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] palah:
I have recently swicthed from Optus to Telstra (have a T7381) & thought would do the right thing and re-install telstra rom ... if you use GPS it takes ages(or not at all to get a lock) HTC have been working on fix for last month :(... whereis navigator crashes regulary and the rom is full of 'non' removable telstra links... speed is fine (on par with HTC generic 6.5) ... just installed the NRG 21903 Cookie rom (first cooked rom on my TP2) and would highly recommend ...if you like a full featured rom :)
[HD2 General] pinuccio:
Hi to everybody in the forum...

I just ordered my HTC HD2 "Leo",and I'd like to know if I need to install the "Broadcomm Bluetooth Stack " on it, just to have Bluetooth PAN Client to work......or it is not necessary.

In other words I need to connect to a Bluetooth Access Point ,so it's important for me to have the Bluetooth PAN client on LEO.

Thanks from Giuseppe
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Everything is already there.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jtadeo:
I'm using the 2.1 release by flipz, and I removed the sensUI lock screen to use the one that's transparent. I don't like this one because it has this weird glitch with the alarm. How can I revert back? if there is a way to revert back how can I change the lock icon?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] mrchu001:
use the search function...its been resolved.

but since i'm nice, i'll help you out

search the forum and download HtcLockScreen.apk and HtcLockScreen.odex then just push the files to /system/app
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jtadeo:
thanks man
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] mrchu001:
yeah no problem!

let me know if you run into any trouble or have anymore questions