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[Nexus One General] deprecate:
Warranty it and then sell it...

Brand New Google Nexus One SIM Unlocked (not tied to any carrier).

Seems obvious, yeah...but you have no idea how many people don't know that they all come this way. People want convenience.

You can even put in the description...

"if you want, I can unlock the bootloader and root the device prior to shipping"

I sold a friend's G1 on ebay "unlocked and rooted" for almost 600 dollars.
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
That's a good idea. Well it's not like I am trying to scam Google. There are really 4 specks of dust under the screen and I am pretty sure there are more coming. It will just be more convenient if they just send me a replacement with the 850 band. Is there a support number in Canada that I can call? I actually bought the phone in Hong Kong during my visit there in January. I can get HTC ship it to Canada now since it's officially sold in Canada, right?
[Nexus One General] ajwho:
If anyone is feeling a little desperate, I will buy your T-Mobile version right now for $300 shipped. I know it's low but the upside is that you'll get the money asap and have a AT&T Nexus One in hand by the end of this week if you're quick about it.
[Nexus One General] SilentTweak:
I don't think it's being shipped from Canada. I'm pretty sure it's being shipped in from the states, otherwise they wouldn't use DHL International shipping.
[Nexus One General] rotohammer:
Just ordered mine! Looks like the wife gets my old ancient N1 tomorrow.
[Nexus One General] anosis:
Well my Tilt 2 will go on ebay to make up for the 529 + Tax that I just shelled out to get the ATT 3G version that went live today.

Can't wait to play around with it when it gets here.

PS: overnight shipping is thrown in for free from the google site.
[Nexus One General] cpimpjuice2060:
Mine on da way.... n I'm shipping this 1 day old one back..... LOL 45 restocking fee but fudge it .... its worth it for some 3g speeds!!!!
[Nexus One General] mazzarin:
They shipped yours already?! Dang. I'll have to wait until Thurs!
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
So instead of repairing it, I can ask for an exchange even though it's been almost 2 months since I got the phone?
[Touch GSM General] gargashish0901:
someone plz tell me wat should i do knw.. my display screen isn't working... a white screen z being displayed with a black spot... plzz help me... is there nething which can b done...
[Touch GSM General] gargashish0901:
plzz help me on dis...
[Touch GSM General] vinoob:
ha ha is it working now... if not change it man.. it cost 2000 INR... they will change the front digitizer and the front casing.. if the problem is with the screen beyond that then its a problem.. will cost u more
[Touch GSM General] sujies:
Rt Outsourcing

I had a similar white screen problem, I think your LCD screen in broken,

I had to get it serviced and the display cost 3500 rupees

and they waived off the service charge because i was under warranty

If you are getting a partial display of the phone menus,

it might be a problem related to a soft top panel which seems to damage

the display of Elfs. Search around the forums for a solution
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
I just noticed that an AT&T "compatible" phone is now listed in the Google phone page. It looks like a new offering.

"Compatible with 3G on AT&T (U.S.) and Rogers Wireless (Canada) Supports three 3G/UMTS bands (850/1900/2100 MHz) and four GSM radio frequencies (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)"

https://www.google.com/phone/choose?hl=en&gl=US&s7e=
[Nexus One General] hjlow:
yes go get it!
[Nexus One General] lightforce:
that was a surprise
[Nexus One General] MoxFulder_CH:
mmh no more ip check from Switzerland.. nevertheless, the shipping address is refused..
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
I find it a bit strange that there has been no announcement from AT&T. Is Google introducing this phone without AT&T's blessing?... Is this a continuation of the Google (N1) and Apple (iPhone) battle?... In other words Apple attacks HTC and Google retaliates by attacking the exclusive supplier of iPhones.
[Nexus One General] melterx12:
I wonder if the at&t nexus one will have any minor differences from the tmobile other than the antenna.
[Nexus One General] melterx12:
Google will only help AT&T by doing this.
[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
I don't think hardware manufactures need carriers "blessings" to create hardware.

Whether the carriers allow the phones is a different story.
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
Agree... but without an "official" announcement from AT&T it might undermine the iPhone. There is nothing in AT&T's Smartphone offerings that really challenges the iPhone because it is AT&T's cash cow. There is no provision in the page to buy a "subsidized" N1 from AT&T... I also find that a bit odd.
[Nexus One General] jerhoyet:
I don't imagine they will offer it subsidized. Like you said, the iPhone is their cash cow, why would they (Apple included) allow a better phone to be sold along side their money maker?
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
Exactly... but if AT&T decides to disable a specific device (N1), then somewhere in the plan contract there has to be an stipulation that no "unlocked" phone from an unauthorized vendor is guaranteed service. To be honest, I have not looked at my AT&T Plan contract to find if such wording is in it.
[Nexus One General] EarthsiegeTA:
All I know is that I've placed my order for one, and shall be selling my T-Mobile one in the next few days. I was going to wait it out for the new iPhone, but now I can get the best phone that's 3G works on a better network than T-Mobile.
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
Keep us posted... eager to hear anything you have to say about it... I hope you did not opt for the "optional" engraving... I'd delay your reporting.
[Nexus One General] nak#57:
I guess I am going to join you and buy the att nexus then sell the other one :D
[Nexus One General] EarthsiegeTA:
Nope, I did not opt for the engraving on either one. I like spotless phones. Besides, it also kills the resale value. ;)
[Nexus One General] sstang2006:
plus, more expensive than T-Mobile
[Nexus One General] EarthsiegeTA:
That it is, but after using T-Mobile for a month and not having signal in a majority of the places I frequent, I went back to AT&T, even though it only works on EDGE.
[Nexus One General] nephroid:
I think this is great news and I'm also surprised that there hasn't been an official AT&T announcement... :confused:
[Nexus One General] esmith:
damn!

I just had a friend from the US order one for me and I should be getting it Thursday or Friday this week!

Arg! I'm with Rogers and would love the 3G bands... I wonder if I can somehow do a swap??
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
I would also hope that some of the folks that bought the t-mobile N1 and that are switching to the AT&T model... wait to get their AT&T N1 before selling/canceling their t-mobile N1 and contract. This way we can get a side by side comparison of the two phones. Specifically, I want to know if covering the lower part of an AT&T N1 affects the signal strength in the same way it does a t-mobile N1.
[Nexus One General] altarity:
Sure in the hell sounds like a cannon shot from Google. As long as Apple doesn't get an injunction against HTC, this is going to be sweet. How many people hate apple and their exclusive ATT deal? This is google saying "We're going to bring it to Apple and we're not going to play by Apple's rules."

I'm just guessing that google could foresee the chessboard up to this point. This is the kind of disruption to the traditional carrier/handset maker relationship they were looking to stir up. Let's turn the system on its head!!!
[Nexus One General] EarthsiegeTA:
I can't do a direct comparison, as I don't have a T-Mobile contract anymore, but I do recall what happened when I would cover the back with my hand. If you would like, when I get the AT&T one, I can speculate which one performs better by testing it.
[Nexus One General] deprecate:
This makes me less than pleased I early adopted :)

I cannot imagine that google will be releasing separate radio updates for each nexus that gets released...perhaps they will?

So tempted to buy one...sooo tempted.
[Nexus One General] insomnia:
Just buy and sell yours.... its worth it to have 3g speeds.

Do IT !!! and post your order confirmations here and make us proud.
[Nexus One General] osetivo:
Order Placed!

It's been a long time since I was this excited over a phone. Have to go way back to my SMT-5600 or the HTC Wizard.
[Nexus One General] jerhoyet:
Yeah man, I would just buy the new one. Let's face it, you can resell the old N1 for close to retail price as long as you haven't dropped it in water or broken the screen or something. Then turn around and buy the AT&T one. You'll lose money, but I think 3G is worth the lost eighty bucks or so.
[Nexus One General] :
They have to if they use different bands.
[Nexus One General] deprecate:
I think I already found someone who will offset almost all of the cost of a new one (close to 75 bucks out of pocket on my end when all is said and done).

Yeah I know. No big deal but just something to pay attention to :)
[Nexus One General] Scrog:
Can't get through to order.
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
Now I'm also curious about which two Android phones AT&T is going to announce at CTIA. Will one of these phones be the Desire/Bravo with Sense UI (subsidized) to counteract what Google just announced? Their Android top-of-the-line market could be undermined if they don't market a phone similar to the N1.
[Nexus One General] bmj1086:
As an AT&T employee with corporate connections, I haven't been able to get any information from anybody about advertisements. I'm going to keep digging around though. Wish I wasn't stuck in this stupid T-Mobile contract =/
[Nexus One General] prettyha8:
YESS, can't wait to get a Rogers working one.

I normally engrave mine to say. "Demo Unit. This Phone is not for sale. Google(c) Inc."
[Nexus One General] deprecate:
Were you recently hired by ATT while under contract with TMO? Off topic I know but it just seems odd that you work for one carrier and subscribe to the other :)
[Nexus One General] jz9833:
That's capitalist America at its best!
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
I'm glad I did not become an early adopter, this time, given all the "noise" about the other N1 versions that were going to hit the market after the t-mobile version... But now I find myself (once again) in limbo... Just a few months ago I was going to switch from AT&T to Verizon and get the Imagio... but then the N1 came out and no cooked ROM for the Imagio ever came out. I was going to wait until the Spring to get the Verizon N1, but now that the AT&T version is out I'm going to wait until I can get an overview of all 3 models. I have not been happy with AT&T lately, but I'm pretty sure that a cooked ROM for the AT&T version of the N1 will surface relatively soon... Given the Imagio's history, I'm not confident that a cooked ROM for the CDMA N1 from Verizon will come soon enough.
[Nexus One General] w00yee:
cannot get through the order process. page doesnt open..:mad:
[Nexus One General] chronzz:
I just ordered mine from google.com/phone the ATT/ROGERS one

any one wants to buy my old one?
[Nexus One General] Diplomat2387:
With all being said, I think Sprint will want to release the Nexus One...It would be a smart move...Why didn't Google just release the phone on all carriers at once though..?
[Nexus One General] bmj1086:
No I've had T-Mobile for 6 years. Until very very recently there hasn't been an android phone on our network so I wasn't going to switch. I'm not buying another mobile OS. I hate the iPhone [with a passion]. I've had Android since the G1 released and I don't plan on ever switching.

It sucks that I just signed a 2 year contract 6 months ago. By the time I'm out of it the Nexus 3 will be out [sarcasm]. I've been trying to find a way out of the contract but the ETF's will cost me almost $1k. I have 4 lines at $200 ETF each line. :eek:

It's not so bad since T-Mobile will be getting HSPA+ this year :D

Also since DT is talking about selling, we never know. AT&T may buy them out XD
[Nexus One General] jz9833:
1) FCC approval.

2) Verizon probably wanted to sell every droid it could, same with the Hero and sprint.

3) at&t is making apple happy

4) the early people were used as a development period. For example i used to search for live wallpapers and get 2 results, now they are plenty.

5) different versions of hardware and it takes time to make sure everything is working right after a change.
[Nexus One General] :
T-Mobile was the easiest to get on since android and them have had a relationship from the get go.

At&t is just a derivative of the gsm version.

Verizon, as mentioned, still wants to milk the droid before moving on.

Spring, just a derivative of the cmds verion version.

By staggering their release perioes they can offer 1 phone to four different marketshares of a relatively large period of time (6 months).
[Nexus One General] d.cortez:
Google is selling the phone, not at&t. that's why we have to pay full retail price.

disable a specific device? huh?:) they don't care what device you use with their service as long as you pay the bill. they do care that you use the appropriate data plan, but that's it. i've been using unlocked/unsubsidized phones on at&t for 4+ years and they haven't uttered a word to me. i'll be adding the at&t Nexus One as well...
[Nexus One General] awtryau89:
Well, I guess I lucked out. I stole a N1 T-Mobile version from someone that had it engraved and decided he didn't like it. I got it for $350 shipped. I had that phone for one day. Loved it and wanted to keep it but found out I couldn't live without 3G. The next day I sold it for $500 on the bay and dropped that in my account. I have been looking hard at the Telus Milestone but just couldn't pull the trigger on that phone at that price. Guess I was lucky I waited. I entertained the thoughts of a GSM Pre as well. Patience grasshopper.

Anyway, I just placed my order and I am torn. I have an iPhone my company gave to me. They paid for it and the bill every month. I finally got it performing to near its potential with a Jailbreak and many hours of Cydia shopping. I guess I can just SIM swap and go back to my first love of Android. I carried an Android phone until December when they gave me the iPhone. Am I crazy for even feeling torn? I have tons of Android paid apps just sitting out there on my account so I know what I am getting into. I know I will missed Voice Dial from the iPhone and thats about it.
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
I know that, so far, they don't care... I have also used "unlocked" phones on AT&T for many years. The point I was trying to make is that "if" they decide to pick on an specific phone (The N1) there is wording on ther service plan contract that would allow them to do so. Something, like "we reserve the right to discontinue your service without any notice or explanation" If I were AT&T I'd probably have something like that somewhere in the contract. I'm not saying that they would do it. But given that they have an "exclusive" contract with Apple we do not know if "Apple" stipulated in their contract that AT&T can not compete with other "similar" smartphones on their network for X amount of time. I'm sure that since Apple gave AT&T an "exclusive" deal... AT&T stipulated that Apple could not offer their phone on any other network for X amount of time. Again, I'm not saying that this is going to happen, but recently AT&T enforced a Smartphone Data plan on users whose phone IMEI identify them as Smartphone users. So, we know that AT&T can change or end your service contract on the flight.
[Nexus One General] jankyboy:
Does anyone know if AT&T offers a plan when you don't buy a phone from them? I'm thinking of adding a line to my family plan for a new N1, but I don't see anything online.

Thanks,
[Nexus One General] d.cortez:
uh...ok, r u a lawyer? for me, it's a non issue, that it, until it's an issue. i digress, lol... anybody wanna buy my pristine T-Mo Nexus 1? :)
[Nexus One General] d.cortez:
just add a line, get a free dumb-phone and you're good to go. if you signup with a $10 data plan, at&t will do you a favor and automatically upgrade it to the $30 Smartphone plan once they detect a change in IMEI associated with your account (e.g., you start using that at&t N1).
[Nexus One General] deekjx:
Not so sure they would do that. People would just borrow sets from friends to terminate their contracts early without a fee.
[Nexus One General] ohgood:
this sucks. it's att OR tmo, not either in one phone. sucks you can't have a phone with all the bands. :(
[Nexus One General] wyldtek:
They only did that on smartphones that they carry. They tried to do that to me (because I formerly had a WinMo phone) but when I gave them the IMEI for my unlocked Rogers Dream their system did not recognize it and I was allowed to keep the $30 Messaging & Data Unlimited plan. I'm very happy that Google is offering this without going through AT&T.

Its highly unlikely they would lock out a phone. But if they did they would lose me as a customer.
[Nexus One General] :
AT&T's system does recognize the Nexus One as a smartphone. I had a service issue and they re-provisioned my service. Shortly after I kept getting automatically moved to the $30 data plan. They keep texting me if I switch it to the $10 family data plan.

If you provision NEW service, they will only sell you a $30 data plan, the system knows better now. I don't know if they will force you to buy a data plan during activation.

-James
[Nexus One General] deprecate:
But now they will have the nexus on their network and you can bet they added it to their recognized devices list. I bet you will start to get texts about using 3g despite not actually using it.

I gave my old iphone to my girlfriend who had recently killed her iphone (water is a vicious thing). Hers was a 2g mine a 3g. Despite only have it ever set to Edge (since that is the plan she is on) they send her a text every few weeks regarding the use of 3g despite not being on a 3g plan. So far her bill hasn't changed in all the months of having the phone.

Good times :)
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
Exactly, as I just mentioned in another thread... The AT&T support forum is full of threads similar to this one http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=gsmgprs&thread.id=28657
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
No... not a lawyer, but in my consulting days I was involved with lawyers who asked for my technical advice (mostly on the limitations of certain technologies) while they drafted the consulting engagement contracts.

Like I said, it is not an issue and it might never be... but once you go to AT&T with your N1 they'll know who you are based on your contract and what phone you're using based on the IMEI of your phone.
[Nexus One General] d.cortez:
ok... i can relate to the "consulting" experience and the focus on details! :) fyi, i'm already on at&t with my T-Mo N1 and i was bumped to the $30 data plan (although i get a 50% employee discount via wifey).
[Nexus One General] tamanaco:
I'm dying to pull the trigger on the AT&T compatible N1, but I'd like to wait for a couple users experiences and maybe... just maybe... I'll wait and see what the Verizon N1 service and contracts are going to be like... But I swore to myself that I would wait no longer than that... Enough waiting... because I'm about to kill my nephew... he has the t-mobile N1 and he keeps shoving it in my face.
[Nexus One General] mlott:
Darn, I'm late for the party. But I wasn't late for the order page and got mine this morning. I'll be throwing another T-Mo N1 on craigslist and then ebay if no local takers.
[Nexus One General] zoetrope:
I'm back and its because the N1 is now on AT&T

Over a year ago, I left both AT&T and my iPhone behind and bought a G1 w/ T-Mobile (my wife works there so no contract and the voice/data plan was dirt cheap). However, the G1 was so underpowered for Android, I gave up 4 months later and went back to AT&T and the iPhone. Always loved Android, but I hated the G1 hardware. I have my problems with T-Mobile's service as well. Well, xda-devs, I'm back. Ordered the N1 GSM 3G 850/1900/2100MHz w/ overnight shipping, staying w/ AT&T because of the 2yr contract and I'll be selling my iPhone 3GS when it arrives.

There's no other support for mobile phones out there like the xda-dev forum. I missed you guys.
[Nexus One General] redrazr7791:
I think that AT&T will carry the Desire. Think about it...they have the UNSUBSIDIZED N1 but will counteract it with the SUBSIDIZED Desire for people who can either 1 - Start a new contract or 2 - Upgrade their current plan.

Either way...more customers and more money for both parties;)
[Nexus One General] redrazr7791:
EPIC :D

And I thought my 15% student discount was awesome :o
[Nexus One General] vexingv:
finally! i'm sick of my WinMo phone (HTC Fuze WM6.5.3) and was waiting for ATT 3G bands on the Nexus One.

i was on the road earlier in the day and couldn't order it through my current phone (Opera mobile), but i finally managed to place an order at 430PM EDT. since then, i have yet to see any changes in my order status (current status is that my order has been received). has anyone gotten shipping confirmations already (and what time did you place your order)?
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
delete......
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
When I ordered my T-Mo N1 back in January the order status lagged behind the actual status by a long margin. I think some people got theirs before the status was even changed. Mine appeared to have been shipped near midnight so they seem to work around the clock.

Though YMMV now that the initial rush of the first release is long over. Still, they may have staffed similarly for this release of the new AT&T/Rogers model.
[Nexus One General] j.bruha:
I'm pretty upset about this.

I was originally with AT&T when the AWS N1 came out. I bought it minutes after it became available. My plan had a 21% discount that brought my family plan to $110/month consistently with unlimited text/data+750 minutes. A month after I started using the N1, AT&T's system kicked me onto the $30 data plan and I ported my numbers to T-Mobile (and paid two hefty ETF's). Since I switched, yes, I have gained 3G speeds on my N1, but reception is nowhere near what it was with AT&T and the 3G speeds are also significantly slower.

So to recap, I lost $300 in ETF's, increased my monthly wireless bill, lost a reliable network and rollover minutes, and slowed my 3G speeds. The only thing I gained was not being on contract with T-Mobile.

Why didn't Google just announce this version at the original press release? :(
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Well, IIRC AT&T would take you back and likely put you back on your old plan since you recently cancelled... they might even credit the ETF fee's back. If that's the case, you could use those ETF's to cover any from T-mobile, sell your N1 on eBay, and then buy the AT&T version... major PITA, but might be worthwhile if AT&T is really that much better for you.
[Nexus One General] mircury:
Well, I ordered my ATT N1 at 10pm EST 3/16/10 w/engraving and it shipped this morning at 7:55am EST. Should have it tomorrow. No tax. Free overnight. Location KY, USA.
[Nexus One General] h2opoloplyr_11:
I was pretty upset as well about this, but not as much as some of you guys as i only have had the n1 for about 2 days. So i still have time to return and order the ATT version. Good thing the ATT service tech person talked me into keeping my line open until mid april when my account would recycle to close it that day.

Now the question is, is the ATT version better than the tmobile, and maybe would get better 3g (or at least not on EDGE 90% of the time). Tmobile map shows 3g coverage in my area is EXCELLENT yet seeing the 3g icon is like seeing a fabled creature, not likely to happen.

I have tried the automatic network workaround and did a power cycle, still having a little problem.

So for those that ordered, please help out. Id like your impression on how it runs with ATT network and if you guys suffer with the 3g/EDGE confusion as well.

Thanks!