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[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
There's nothing too forward looking in understanding that there are situations when you don't need to do things fast, and that wireless transfers are better then wired, other things being equal. They are very unequal, that's the problem. And sometimes I just need to do it fast.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Yes, but you can only do it from a computer where Zune software is installed and a sync relationship is set up. And then it'll only work for a preset and limited number of file types.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
Well you guys were on the topic of pictures so that's what I was referring to.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Even then it still requires Zune software on the PC. And by the way, I don't know how well Zune software is done, but I know that iTunes has a very annoying habit of hanging if your files are located on a network storage that isn't available (which happens often because I have a laptop).
[Windows Phone 7 General] C:Sharp!:
Not only that you need iTunes/Zune installed, there's another issue, at least with the iPhone.

iTunes doesn't allow files (e.g. pictures) that were synced from one computer to be transferred to another. You can only sync your stuff with one computer.

With some (rather difficult) workarounds, you can sync some filetypes from multiple computers to the iPhone, but not from the iPhone to the computers.

If that's not annoying, I don't know what it is... but it's definitely not "forward thinking".
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Oh yes, that's not only pain in the ass, but also incredibly silly. Even worse than what you're saying for me is the fact that you can only "sync" one folder with images (and it will include everything in it including subfolders). Now, I have gigabytes of photos on a NAS at home, and have no interest of putting them all on my phone. And there's just no freakin' way to put some of them there. Zune software, which I downloaded recently to try, seems a bit smarter than iTunes in that it allows to add/remove multiple sources for all types of media content (it also works much faster and looks way better), but I can't try syncing functionality, obviously.

The fact that people find "syncing" files easy and convenient as opposed to copying stuff by dragging and dropping completely boggles my mind. It's just one of those mysteries in life I'll never be able to figure out.
[Windows Phone 7 General] burnblue:
I don't think it really works light that. If I took 200 photos while at the theme park, I don't think they're all synced by the time I'm done. Anyway, let's say I do initiate a MyPhone sync and it starts syncing my GBs of photos... even though as someone else pointed out their are going to be pictures that you don't want to sync to the web, like when we snuck behind the ferris wheel to get naughty. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure Music and Photo Sync is all now handed off to Zune and MyPhone will no longer handle these... which makes sense because we don't have those GBs of space online.

This means that we have to sync to a PC. So I stop by my friend's place and want to leave them with a copy of the photos before I go home. Not only do they not have Zune software, but we're not going to install it and sign in as me.. I'm trying to copy, not sync. This is not my computer so it should not be a sync point. It's a one-time transfer. Wireless sync isn't going to work by the way, because they don't have Wi-Fi so I can't get on their network. I have to plug in a cable... why not just then let me copy stuff off it? I reeally hope they treat the phones like a regular camera or flash drive and give us options in AutoPlay to copy from it.

So I go home, sync them all to my PC, try to share them all online, even the private ones.. and they most likely end up compressed. A non-online option is required, is all I'm saying
[Windows Phone 7 General] Wilhelm:
Bluetooth is the way to send a few photos to a PC. No cables, no proprietary software. The only stumbling block is not all that many PCs have it. And God knows what M$ will do with it on 7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
Usually notebooks will have it, not the desktops. You could buy a USB bluetooth for your PC though. I don't know how often others use bluetooth for file transfer, but I rarely do it on my iPhone. A few times, after taking pictures with my iPhone, I bluetoothed it to my friends' mobile phones. In another occasion, I bluetooth a spreadsheet model to another iPhone. That's about it. I can't certainly go without it, at least in the version WP7S release. Not very high on my requirement list as multitasking and copy and paste.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Wilhelm:
You can OBEX on iPhone? Let me guess, it requires jailbreaking.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
I don't blame you for making this assumption. I'm at times confused myself:D Certainly there is a jailbreak application for that, but this is where you will be surprise - you do not require jailbreak to send not just picture but also files across. This is an Apple sanctioned third party application called BlueWaves. You don't need wifi for this, like they use to do in the past. Now I just remember that the persons that I sent the camera photos to were using non-jailbreak phones.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
And where does it store files on a non-jailbroken iPhone? Not photos, other types.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
You create your own folder structure to store the received files. Files could be viewed directory with this program. You may also move the received files to organise them, so you may create a directory for all the word document, another for PDF files received, etc. In some situation,you may of course use iFle to move it to other places if you so choose. For example, you have just received an excel file and you may want that added to your existing inventory of excel files. Depending on which excel program you use, you would use iFile (A cydia application) to move this there. In theory this will work, although I have not actually done it yet. If you wish, I'll test it out and report back.

Edit: yep, just tested it. You can use iFile to move it to anywhere and used by any other application, as long as this application uses this file format.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gogol:
But there is a catch ... both devices must run BlueWaves app in order this to work.

Probably the app will encode the file as image and decode back on the receiving one :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
If you want to transfer to and receive from PC and non-iPhone/iPod/iPad, then you would need a Cydia program called iBlueNova. It works great. You can trasnfer music (oh yes), videos, pictures, and other files. It allows you to change the default save path (a different path for each type of files) so you don't need to move it after receiving. Of course, if you receive any music, iPod player won't see it for reasons that has been discussed till cows come home. You would have to use third party music player to play it. If you want it show up in iPod, you would have to drag and drop it to your normal storage location on your PC, then add that to the iTune library and sync.
[Windows Phone 7 General] aceo07:
I'm not a big fan of the limitations.

Other people probably just consider them to be 'changes' instead of 'limitations'. It's something that they've never used and don't care about it. They're the people WP7s is marketed towards.

I want the features that have been taken away.

What if I run out of memory taking pictures during a hiking trip? Do I have to buy a new phone with more memory? What if I don't have data connection to the 'clouds' to upload?

What if I drop my phone into the river? (Happened more than once.) How would I get my data back if it won't boot up?

What's next? I have to sent my phone away so they can replace my battery?
[Windows Phone 7 General] sdlopez83:
The limitations will turn everyone in this community totally off. Hello android, suddenly the fat chick at the party is not looking so bad.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Zaim2:
The ironic thing is that it's highly likely Iphone will get an official USB mass storage Documents folder which all apps can access, so soon jailbreak won't even be necessary. The feature is in the Iphone 3.2 SDK beta released to developers and has been left untouched through revisions, so it's not a stretch to say it it could make its way down to Iphone OS 4.0. It's already a confirmed feature on the Ipad which will run on Iphone OS 3.2.

So it's possible that WP7 will be less accessible than Iphone by the time it comes out. Then again seeing it in Iphone 4.0 could prompt MS to veto their position and release with with the same feature, given how eager they are to ape Apple.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sdlopez83:
Iphone will get better. This garbage will drive away this market and enter another. I think android will look better as I said before.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
No! Microsoft will wait 3 years to make sure everyone's pissed and only then "steal back" this feature from Apple....
[Windows Phone 7 General] rfarrah:
:D

My thoughts exactly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
Did you see that post on engadget the Iphone HD could have 960x640 resolution, full A4 SoC, and 3rd party multitasking. Ouch if all that is true.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Jason_25:
I cannot simply accept these major changes. I am not going to compromise my phone down to another overpriced "feature phone" like the iphone. What they are trying to do essentially is remove the little computer aspect and turn it into an internet appliance. This is absolutely a sign that Microsoft would like to alienate the people who have worked so hard here.

So let's summarize:

No desktop paradigm

No copy/paste

No third party development

No file system access

No theming/customization

No memory cards

(Opinion) 12 year old girl / retiree interface
[Windows Phone 7 General] C:Sharp!:
Isn't that ironic? :D

Apple add it, Microsoft remove it. :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] rfarrah:
What do you mean no desktop paradigm? ...not sure I've heard / understood this aspect.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I see. You going to seek professional help or drink poison right away?

They need to swap positions every once in a while, it would be too boring otherwise. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Jason_25:
This is the idea that the device is a computer that behaves similar to a Windows desktop but also has a phone built in. This has been pretty much how it has been in the base Windows Mobile up until now.

In contrast to an iphone which is a phone that happens to have some computer features.

Maybe professional help. No poison though. I will stay with WM 6.5 devices while they are still available and then look into switching to a Maemo device.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I keep reading this here and there, but not sure I get it. What was so desktop-like in WM? It was called "Windows", but you didn't really get any windows (well, not multiple ones, you could only work in one app at a time). Its home screen was never a desktop launcher with icons as it is in iPhone. It was actually a port of Outlook Today initially and later became something Zuneish in 6.5. About the only thing that was like in desktop PC was a very silly idea to have a Start menu implemented as a menu (i.e. something that doesn't occupy the whole screen). This worked well on desktop because of a large screen (you don't want to have oversized 17" buttons), but makes absolutely no sense on a 3.5" screen, and was removed in 6.5 anyway. So what is it exactly that you're missing?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Jason_25:
Fair points about not getting more than one window on the screen. I don't see that changing anytime soon with a small screen. With screens any bigger they would be uncomfortable to carry in a pocket.

I like the 6.1 and 6.5 start menus. It is familiar and is a Windows staple. It is not only the desktop UI though that is Windows-like though. The freedom to modify the OS to suit your needs, to explore the file system at will, and to develop software without the approval of Microsoft. There is also the outstanding issue of having no memory cards or copy/paste features.

So far from WP7 I have seen a lot of glitter but a huge step back for power users. So add in multitasking on top of the other things I have listed previously and you will have some idea of what I am missing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Fresh & Minty:
My phone is basically a computer in my pocket to me. I can do anything from it that i normally do. Surf the internet, download files, make a document on word, customize it, check my e-mail, listen to music, play games and even watch movies.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kloc:
I don't have a Zune but I installed the software just to see how it works. The UI is pretty slick but I hope they add more functionality to it with WP7S. Doesn't look like it hanged up on me at all though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Rabia:
i need this key, screen calibration file
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Rhodium500:
Just realign your screen
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dougstoner:
500,529 797,858 796,191 208,196 212,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sirphunkee:
Since these are the calibration settings that are particular to each person's screens, the values will of course be different from user to user...mine are below.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Rabia:
thanks, for some stupid reason my touch seems to be out of sync with the actual touch, meaning if i click at the bottom of the screen the click happens in the middle, after hard reset this done seem to fix the problem at all, so am trying to figure a way to manually compensate for the alignment to bring the touch and the cursor together , seems my digitizer is faulty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Rabia:
even better am just trying to establish the logic here, my cursor is is higher than my actual touch, am trying to figure which amount of this whole string is responsible for that, i know there is X and Y to each corner including the middle so 5 points for 5 numbers i hope
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sirphunkee:
Yes, I'm under the impression that each comma-separated pair of numbers represents a specific mapped coordinate on the screen, used to adjust for offset at each point.

The values listed look (at first glance) like they'd pretty much match 4 corners and a center-ish point if mapped out on a standard grid...a little trial and error should be able to generate a rectangle-shaped map. The trick is just knowing which corner is top-left...or wherever the numbers start from lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tseidel:
im sure im a little late but if you hold the volume up and down then tap the screen the screen alignment will pop up just for future reference this is also y that damn screen pops up when i take my phone out of my pocket to answer calls sometimes
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ubuntudude:
Hi folks

I Just found a dusted "Blue Angel" Device in the cupboard, that I always wanted to use with Linux but had already given up some time ago.

Now, before selling it off at ebay, I wanted to give it another try and was delighted to see the "idiots guide" on this wiki page:

[xda-developers wiki ]BlueAngel_Linux

What happened so far:

I go to buy a SD-Card of 2GB (couldn't get a smaller one at my local store), put the image on it and give it a try.

It boots and brings up a familiar login prompt.

I login with root/rootme and get: "can't access tty; job control turned off" and a shell prompt.

The keyboard only works partially (only letters, no punctuation) so i can't even type "cd.." to navigate

Googling and looking at some (wiki-)pages here, at handhelds.org and linuxtogo.org didn't help me any further yet.

My Questions:

Did I do something wrong up to here?

What to do to make the keyboard working (did I mention it's a german Device?)

Can I launch some kind of GUI at this point (heck I don't even know if the Image contained GPE or OPIE ;-) ) or is the "can't access tty.." a problem i have to fix first?

Is there a more up to date image (to fix the keyboard-issue) I can use with the idiots guide or some evenly up to date documentation out there? I'm a regular Linux-User on the desktop and not afraid of the command-line?

Device Info:

Model No:	PH20B

ROM Version:	1.22.01 GER

ExtROM-Version:	1.22.182 GER

Radio Version	1.06.00

I hope someone can help me on this before I go the ebay path :-)

Greetings from .de

Markus :confused:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] egzthunder1:
I have QTopiaII working on my BA, the instructions are a bit scattered and kinda confusing (and very, very outdated), but you should be able to run it without having to input any code into the HaRet prompt. It should do everything by itself. If I can, I will upload the contents of my SD later today so that you can try to d/l directly onto your card.

It could also be that you are running an older version of HaRet...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ubuntudude:
Yes indeed :-)

That would be great for a test-run! Thanx in advance :-) I think a gzipped (iso?) image file would do it, I'll transfer that to the SD using dd.

I must admit that I don't really unterstand the HaRET magic yet. Didn't find any documentation until now.

Can you point me to some usable Documentation for my project? At the moment I'm interested in:

- HaRET (how to configure and use it, up-to-date downloads)

- How to build a SD-Image by yourself (I stepped on something similar at handhelds.org but that seemed really outdated.)

- Any info readable by a non-developing but willing to learn human :-)

Thanks again, Markus
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] yuvaraj:
qtopia

i have tried qtopia in my BA if u run the HaRET it will generate a img file in u r sd card it is about 200 mb why dont u try to copy img file to the sd card:)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] egzthunder1:
I don't know much about HaReT myself, but I do know that you have to have the right parameters on the default.txt (or config file) otherwise, the thing will either crash or not boot (and this is where it can get tricky).

As far as the SD image, I was trying to get something to make an image of an SD not too long ago and I found a program called Winhex, which can make images of sd cards. However, you need to get the full version to be able to mount the image on a card. You mentioned something else in your post. Are you using a different program for SD images? I would love to know about this program if you have one.

I haven't forgotten about the things on the SD card, I will post them (SD image is not necessary though) but I just haven't had the time.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] cociuba:
-go to: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/Qtopia/

-download	Qtopia-Linux-htcblueangel.exe and QtopiaPhone-image.rootfs.tar.bz2

-copy them to sd card, make sure you have at least 200-300 mb free

-start Qtopia-Linux-htcblueangel.exe,for the first time it will generate a 200 mb root file, so it could take a while

-next time you boot in qtopia it is much faster.

ps: you dont have to edit text files in this case.

ps2: also on irc-freenode there are developers who managed to install even ubuntu on there phones
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] HKMDogs:
Any have any cool looking Tilt 2 roms? I have TP2 roms but it gets annoying because the Tilt 2 has a different style keyboard
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dazultra2000:
You know, you could just search around on the forum to find a .cab file with the correct layout for your keyboard. Most ROM developers will even have a cab linked in their threads so you can get the correct layout.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] chadster214:
search for e2 ROM. or click on the link in my signature.
[Touch HD General] cdynu:
Wi-Fi not detect anything and bluetooth is very very weak (detect from max 5-10 cm:( ) The tel is unlocked from orange , have hspl 1.56 olinex , last radio 1.17.25.09 and custom rom. I thought the problem was the software but now I think is hard problem .What do you think ?
[Nexus One Accessories] JAW$:
Hi,

There has been a lack of leather pouches for the Nexus One.

I Just found some really good one from ebay: -

http://cgi.ebay.com/Leather-Pouch-P...Accessories?hash=item414ccc2c8b#ht_3035wt_985

I've ordered one

Thanks

JAW$
[Nexus One Accessories] isjr:
Any iPhone pouch will work also since this phone is thinner, I have these

http://www.noreve.com/brand/Apple/product/Housse_cuir_Apple_iPhone_3G_Tradition_

http://www.senacases.com/google/htc-google-nexus-one-cases/ultra-slim-pouch-sleeve/#
[Nexus One Accessories] Eclair~:
Why don't these cases cover the top of the phone! Is there like a reason for this?! I mean seriously, the phone can fall out, you can drop it on its top, what would make them leave the top part of the phone un-protected and cover the rest of it -_-'
[Nexus One Accessories] JAW$:
I guess you can see the upper part of the phone so you can take it out with your fingers.

The pouch is only on the phone when you are not using it i.e. pocket, handbag & anyway when you are not using it what the % anyway the chance that its going fall on the upper visible side of the phone.
[Nexus One Accessories] firerock:
the only concern is that the pouch has a magnetics...which might mess up you compass.
[Nexus One Accessories] JAW$:
I don't think the magnet is strong enough to mess up the compass
[Nexus One Accessories] tedSmith123:
Sorry too junior to post a link but what about the pull-tab leather holster from shop.brando.com ( use find product on the home page ).
[Nexus One Accessories] mjbjr77:
magnets will screw with your compass. I had an N1 holster with magnetic

lid closure. I tested first. Started with the compass app on, with the phone

front of me like normal and held the holster at arms length, and slowly brought

it closer. At about 2 1/2 ft, the compass needle started deflecting, and got

much worse as I brought the holster closer. Got my money back.
[Nexus One Accessories] dudeldei:
I've also had two of my bank payments cards destroyed by magnets on the phone-holster....The magnet-stripe on the cards couldn't take it when I accidently put the phone and card in same pocket....

(of course the chip on the cards is more widely used now, instead of the stripe, but...)
[Nexus One Accessories] JAW$:
The Pouch I recommended is awful & wouldn't recommend.
[Nexus One Accessories] theeil:
What is wrong with it specifically? How is the quality and fit?

I'm looking for a nicer case than the stock one, mostly to protect it from my keys. I don't really mind if the compass doesn't work when I'm not using the phone.

If this isn't it, does anyone else have a recommendation for a quality N1 case under $40?
[Nexus One Accessories] Sindroid:
I want a real friggin' pouch with leather carved of Virginian grown cows with the Android logo iron-burned into the leather and smooth innside lining.. I would pay top $$$ for one. :)

None of that fake syntethic leather stuff.. i want to spoil my Nexus..:)

Somthing like this: http://www.senacases.com/google/htc-google-nexus-one-cases/
[Nexus One Accessories] Sindroid:
I ordered http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000884&products_id=28053

Looks classy and nice, even though it won't have a flip i hope it will fit it tight enough. Still, i want a cow pouch and would kill for one..
[Nexus One Accessories] jbrinkley:
I have the sena flip case with the magnets. It does not affect the compass when the flip part of it is open or flipped backwards under the phone. If you go to flip it closed the needle will twirl as you pass the magnets over the top of the phone. That's the only time though. Nothing while it's in the case.

I hated the case at first. Couldn't grab the pull down bar at the top of the phone. After breaking it in for a week it was no problem.
[Nexus One Accessories] amnigo:
I've always liked Sena cases. VERY high quality stuff. I two in the past, one for my HTC 8125 and one for my Blackjack II. Never ended up getting one for my Tilt 2, though. I play on getting the Ultraslim soon for my Nexus One.