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[Droid Eris Android Development] bftb0:
Congrats all around!

I have two questions about this - one easy and the other sort of subtle - if you think you know the answers, please reply (but by all means, if you are speculating with your answer, please also state what your confidence level is).

Suppose you had somehow managed to get an "engineering" or "S-OFF" bootloader on to the phone, and a new "official" release of software was imminent (sound familiar?). Presumably, this means that the latest-and-greatest official release would have the "best" (most well tested) radio code, but also a new S-ON bootloader.

(Q1) I presume that the S-OFF status of the engineering/testing bootloader means that all the fastboot flash, erase, etc commands are enabled - does it also mean that signature checks are skipped for PB00IMG.ZIP - style ROM installs via HBOOT, so that in principle, you could cobble together a new, "install in one go" ROM by simply zipping up a mix-n-match collection of .img, .nb0, and .nb files - no signature required?

(Q2) I seem to be under the impression that mix-and-matching of bootloaders and radio images is a real no-no, basically... the easiest and fastest way to brick a phone. If that is the case, does it mean that preserving root forever mean that you can not allow a different bootloader to be installed ... and therefore you are stuck with whatever (possibly buggy) radio code is matched with the engineering SPL?

Note that in asking Q2 I (think I) understand that there is a "middle ground" - with a engineering SPL in place, you could (??) do a one-shot (no signature) install that still provided root by having hacked system, recovery, and boot images - and also upgrade to the new bootloader and radio code. This would be a kind of "lock-in", in the sense that you couldn't burn new ROMs onto the phone except for releases signed by HTC - but you would still have "root" on the booted OS (via /bin/su , default.prop, etc)... and of course, if you ever did an official upgrade in the future - you would be back to an stock (completely unrooted) phone.

Whew! Lots of words to ask two questions - hopefully someone will understand what I am getting at!

bftb0
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
i'll be returning my phone in the morning and starting a cooked rom on a new 1.5 phone tomorrow for you guys. enjoy :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
S-OFF means it doesn't check for keys and fastbooot is completly enabled. I think radio is more tied to the actual system than bootloader though *someone correct me if i'm wrong*
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Here you 1.5 ers go root away http://androidmobileos.com/?p=12017
[Droid Eris Android Development] GrdLock:
Ok, my phone's rooted now. MUCH APPRECIATED DEVS!!! Great work!

One question about ROM's: Can we use roms that were made for the Hero on the Eris?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mikey:
Congrats to the whole team on rooting the Eris :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] drew630:
Great work!

I stupidly updated to the 2.1 leak 3 days ago, which I was holding out on doing for root but gave in to temptation :mad:

Any word on if we can get root from the leak?
[Droid Eris Android Development] inline6power:
great job guys. hope you can find a downgrade fix easy or just 2.1 leak root. either way, congrats. wish i would have held out another week as i updated last week. thanks guys.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
Don't bother, won't work 100%.

Downgrade from 2.1leak to 2.1root is in the works, no news yet.
[Droid Eris Android Development] drew630:
Thanks JCase keep us posted. Does it look likely?
[Droid Eris Android Development] {davros}:
awesome... GREAT WORK DEVS...

to bad i didn't wait. now i can wait some more for the 2.1 rooting
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Good Job Guys,

Have not been over here in quite some time :)

It seem like the 3rd generation/group of Devs to try this finally got this Rooted!

Great job Caboose, you did a great job from what I hear :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] sunder74:
utterly new

Hey guys just defected from blackberry after 8 years. Can this all be done from the phone?
[Droid Eris Android Development] afoulke:
Just in case someone needs a mirror, I know I had a few problems with the whole need to register to download thing. Android Evolve no registration needed. Thanks Guys!

Remember this is for 1.5 Droid Eris users only dont download if you have 2.1:

http://androidevolve.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=2&task=view.download&cid=493
[Droid Eris Android Development] semmtexx:
Hey awsome job guys!! I'm glad I held off on updating the leaked 2.1. Question for ya: Do the same issues exist with this like on the leaked 2.1? Things like sign in issues and some other things that people complained about? Thanks again guys!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] toastcfh:
so no recovery yet huh... damn im ready to flash my wifes phone. ill be building a rom and be waiting for the recovery. great work guys.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rom116:
Official 2.1

So if the OTA for the official 2.1 is released prior to finding a way to downgrade to the 1.5 from the leaked 2.1, should we hold off on updating? Would the process be different to downgrade fromt he official or leaked 2.1 back to 1.5?
[Droid Eris Android Development] edgeupgx:
I dont think anyone will be able to give you a good answer on which one will be downgradable from chances are it will be the same way to downgrade for both 2.1s but really no one here can answer that with anything more than speculation.
[Droid Eris Android Development] theboo7:
So are we better off getting refurbished phone from VZW?
[Droid Eris Android Development] refthemc:
Patience is a virtue. Just wait it out, I'm sure some Dev will either figure out how to downgrade to 1.5, or root our leaked 2.1...
[Droid Eris Android Development] Spencer_Moore:
Just so I'm clear to root we only have to flash the given image? seems like i'm missing something.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
That is it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] afoulke:
Hypothetically the version we have for the leak is a beta / htc test verision of 2.1, so the final version that would go out OTA would be more tightened up and patched then the leak version hypothetically, although people and companies make mistake on firmware all the time too. The other thing to consider would be that the leak would be a smaller number firmware so you would be able to upgrade to the OTA if they found root but would not be able to go back to the leak from what I understand. Anyone who knows differently feel free to correct me.
[Droid Eris Android Development] 1wingangel:
once rooted, can you use different carriers? i.e. T-Mobile?
[Droid Eris Android Development] iamkewl:
No, Verizon is CDMA not GSM.
[Droid Eris Android Development] 1wingangel:
oh. that sucks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] markinct:
Uh, no. It's not like unlocking a gsm style phone... The carrier has much more control in the CDMA universe.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sunder74:
question now that we have root...

Now that we have root will we be able to go back to an official OS once it is released? Also are there any must have apps for a rooted Eris? Specifically performance apps. Being a long time blackberry user all this "access" is a bit overwhelming lol.
[Droid Eris Android Development] maxh:
I'm surprised there aren't a million posts in this thread yet. The leak thread grew way faster.

I tried to flash this rom but I get the error message "No image!" Anyone have any idea what the problem is? I downloaded the PB00IMG.zip and moved it to an empty storage card. It's the only thing on there. When I boot up it looks for the various files and reports "No image or wrong file name!" for all except PB00IMG.zip, which just gets "No image!" I'm re-downloading the file right now...
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
The major reason to want to root a phone is for the ability to flash custom ROMs (Operating Systems) to your device. And really, once you do that, you will never want to go back to the official release because custom ROMs are usually A LOT faster and better than the stock one. My G1 has less RAM and a slower processor than my brothers Eris, but since I have a custom ROM, it flies a lot faster than my brother's stock 1.5 Eris, even if I run a 2.1 ROM on it. Plus as we have seen, the Eris probably wont get live wallpapers or anything like that officially, once you get a custom 2.1 ROM, the sky is the limit.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mackattack:
Can you please give us this same rom but with the cpu oc'ed to 575mhz? Also does this have the friends stream app of the other 2.1 roms(that the leaked rom did not have), or the cut and paste they keep demoing all over the place? I really just want a slightly oc'ed cpu, and the cut and paste, and I would be happy camper.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mackattack:
brw with this root could that mean we could have the Android 2.1 gmail embedded picture issue fixed?
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
May I suggest to the dev team: You should try to get in contact with either Cyanogen, Modaco, or Amon_Ra to see if you can get them to create a new custom recovery for the Eris. it would make flashing and everything a lot easier.
[Droid Eris Android Development] maxh:
I re-downloaded the rom, tried again, and got the same results. Anyone know what's wrong?
[Droid Eris Android Development] sbkillz:
So I really can't go back to 1.5 then root? Or just root while on the 2.1 leak?? this is very heartbreaking. I really want the custom roms and root. Is there any way?
[Droid Eris Android Development] ECLIPS3:
Wait patiently for a dev to either find a way to downgrade the os version, or root the 2.1 leaked version.

I upgraded my phone to the 2.1 leak before we had root so i am in the same boat as you. I will end up dumping the eris and going to the Nexus 1 once it is released to verizon, supposedly on the 23rd.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hallstevenson:
No, the GMail app is broken. Well, the 2.x version is... Maybe someone can force the 1.5-1.6 Gmail app into a 2.1 ROM (?).
[Droid Eris Android Development] xcsdm:
Has anyone had any issues with Market?

I had a couple games that I had bought. (UniWar and Bloons) That no longer appear in the market after moving rooted 2.1. I bought both of these from this Eris, so I know they "should" work.

Other apps show up in the market just fine. Is there a build.prop file that the market uses to tell if your phone can run app X?

Any ideas? Or am I just screwed... (this is my wife's phone, and she won't be happy, so I'm probably in deep s**t)

Xc
[Droid Eris Android Development] tbaker077:
Could that be possible? Have cookers for other device(Hero, G2, and stuff) have it working that way?
[Droid Eris Android Development] sunder74:
going back to stock from root

Hey guys, once we've rooted is there a way back to stock in the event of a hardware issue or warranty repair? I know there are several tutorials for other Android handsets. Also in the event of receiving an ota update would the phone accept the update?
[Droid Eris Android Development] false_apology:
This is an artifact of 2.1 in general because it hasn't been officially released yet. Even us with the " leaked" 2.1 have the same issue. Supposedly, it applies to copyrighted apps, but they will show up once 2.1 is officially released.
[Droid Eris Android Development] i3urn:
the app i purchased (feedr) on 1.5 was shown as purchased in 2.1 (rooted) and i was able to download it off the market
[Droid Eris Android Development] Sub-Standard:
Is overclocking one of the main goals that the devs are working on besides the downgrade effort?
[Droid Eris Android Development] DarthMowzy:
Sweet. We have root. Now I wish I didnt update to the leaked 2.1 rom.
[Droid Eris Android Development] toastcfh:
i need a tester for a recovery. ill be right back with details
[Droid Eris Android Development] toastcfh:
ok here we go i built this from Amon's recovery found here. i just added the files needed to make it work on the desirec. this is an older version of his recovery because if it works im not here to take his glory.. Amon will im soon im sure make one for u guys. till then for all u late nighters. try this.

first do this

adb shell

su

mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

then ur gonna need to push flash_image to bin and chmod 755 it (heres that file)~~> flash_image

so do:

chmod 755 /system/bin/flash_image

then push my desirec version of amon's recovery to /sdcard (heres that file) ~~>recovery.img

so do:

adb push ToAsTcfh-recovery-RA-desirec-v1.5.2.img /sdcard

then back to shell:

adb shell

su

then while still in shell give this command:

flash_image recovery /sdcard/ToAsTcfh-recovery-RA-desirec-v1.5.2.img

now lets see if it worked. type this:

reboot recovery

now u can nandroid, wipe flash update.zips and ect...

now please this is for someone with know how. good luck and report back. asap

im not responsible for anything that happens here as a result of this. i dont think anything bad will happen or i wouldnt have posted it. that doesnt mean it wont though. good luck
[Droid Eris Android Development] Android22:
Good job Eris Dev Team :D ..... rooted and upgraded to 2.1 ROM... no problems with programs so far... and it only took 5 minutes to "upgrade" the Firmware...but is anyone's Sense UI running a little slow?, I noticed a slight decrease in response time..
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mackattack:
Anyway you can add the music player from Desire, or Legend into the rom?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Lemcott:
I already installed the 2.1 leak, so I just have a couple of questions while i wait for a root for that, or a way to downgrade comes out.

I have had no problems with the droid eris 2.1 leak, it's dramatically faster, and i love all the new features. In fact, the ONLY mentionable problems I have had is google earth, you can tap on it, but no app will load and sometimes the lock screen looks different. since updating, the lock screen has looked more like the standard android lock screen, but sometimes it looks like the lock screen 1.6 had, but off center with no emergency call button. it still works though, and it happens only rarely.

The sense i clock/weather has an awesome effect when you come out of standby, navigation works, gmail works, everything is fine. I have noticed I have been logged out of my google account twice on random occasions, but honestly, not a big deal. I have had no lags with the leak at all, everything runs super fast, granted I have nothing to compare it to besides itself, I have toyed around with a friend's Droid, but I saw no increase in speed (actually I'm fairly certain mine was still faster)

what will I gain when i root? I know a lot of people have had problems, so they need the root, but everything for me is working just peachy. will rooting bring on some apps that verizon has removed from the OS (tethering)?

main things I really want for the droid eris is: the ability to remove certain apps. Amazon MP3, footprints, visual VM, etc. tethering would also be nice. and active wallpapers.
[Droid Eris Android Development] xcsdm:
Hmm.. Any idea what their doing differently on the Droid? I've tried several flavors of 2.1 and all my market apps work great. Is this just on Eris?

XC
[Droid Eris Android Development] sunder74:
google navigator

Hey guys installed the root. Everything seems fine with the exception of Google navigator. It force closes every time I attempt to enter a destination. Also the Google maps update will not install says invalid or unverified signature any suggestions?
[Droid Eris Android Development] afoulke:
I believe this is an issue for all leaked 2.1 roms because the roms are not official at least the Eris version isn't and I believe the Droid one isn't either. I think the only 2.1 that is official is the N1.
[Droid Eris Android Development] pkopalek:
Updating it gets this issue.

But entering a destination for directions or navigation works fine in the leak, but NOT in the root 2.1.
[Droid Eris Android Development] GrdLock:
A little workaround for the nav for the time being:

Instead of typing in a destination, which makes it crash, hit the button next to the box, select Point on Map. Just press anywhere on the map and tell it to navigate there. Once it's in the navigation, you can hit Menu > More > Change Destination. Then you can type in an address and it won't crash, and the navigation works fine.
[Droid Eris Android Development] xcsdm:
That's why this confuses me. The N1 is 2.1. All of the Moto Droid 2.1 roms have no "hidden" apps that I have seen. (Hmm... Hidden apps being Seen... anyway) All of these apps that I know I have purchased on this Eris, with this account are "gone". Yet on my moto droid, I have everything right here.

Possibly a little market hackery to fix? Now I'm curious how the market identifies our devices/model.

I'm just thinking there has to be a way to do it. All my apps appear to run fine on 2.1. I just need to find a way to get them onto this Eris.

XC
[Droid Eris Android Development] Raziken:
Excellent hit guys, Grabbed the image, and am going to pick up where I left off to see about a Downgrade option.
[Droid Eris Android Development] afoulke:
Yeah the difference is that the Droid has 2.01 firmware where the Eris has traditionally the 1.5 so Google has the new market (updated in 2.0) accessible for the Droid and the N1 but not for the Eris because we are on the old market with 1.5. Most of the time if you email the dev they will send you the apk if your a paid customer. I did it with setting profiles Full and they quickly responded gave me the apk and put out a new unrestricted version.
[Droid Eris Android Development] dropdeadkyla:
eris 2.1

so my boyfriend wanted to root my phone last night and i was a bit skeptical cause my phone is always attached to me and i didnt want to risk it. but after all was downloaded all i have to say is

this is freaking awesome!
[Droid Eris Android Development] toastcfh:
I need someone to test the recovery I posted on the previous page. Please someone give it a shot. If anything the recovery just won't work and u can just reboot. Then I will fix it. U won't have a brick
[Droid Eris Android Development] testing567:
Why hasn't any one tested the recovery image yet? I would test it myself, but I have a G1. A rooted recovery image is much more important than a rooted rom! The recovery image is the program that installs and backups roms. Without it, you can't have any custom roms and you will be stuck using leaked signed roms from HTC. A recovery image can install any rom of any version at any time.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ecatano79:
As far as tethering goes, you can download from the market easy tether, really simple to use.
[Droid Eris Android Development] toastcfh:
That's what I'm saying. I posted a modded version of amon_RA a few pages back and no one has even tried it. I even gave full noob proof instructions. Please someone do it if it works ill put together a Rom tonight to be flashed
[Droid Eris Android Development] Videofolife13:
Amon_RA also put together a recovery image as well. I'm interested in that cooked rom, though...
[Droid Eris Android Development] toastcfh:
Then flash a recovery so u will be able to glad roms
[Droid Eris Android Development] DirkDigler:
Total noob question

So the leaked version came out a couple weeks ago and the rooted version came out a couple days ago. What's the difference between the two?
[Droid Eris Android Development] sunder74:
willing to try the recovery

I'm new to the Android platform after being a long time bb user...anyway are these instructions carried out via handset or pc? Really interested in learning. Thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] toastcfh:
pc using adb
[Droid Eris Android Development] GrdLock:
Didn't work.

grdlock@mainbox:/opt/android-sdk-linux_86/tools$ ./adb shell
# flash_image recovery /sdcard/ToAsTcfh-recovery-RA-desirec-v1.5.2.img
mtd: read error at 0x00000000 (Out of memory)
mtd: read error at 0x00020000 (Out of memory)
[Droid Eris Android Development] toastcfh:
thanx... did u try amons also?
[Droid Eris Android Development] GrdLock:
I think it's Amon's... jcase just posted one in the IRC chat and it worked for me.
[Droid Eris Android Development] toastcfh:
great so post it hee for others to use. or start a new thread
[Droid Eris Android Development] GrdLock:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4481275/recovery.img

:)
[Droid Eris Android Development] bpick:
I am completely unsure if this a dumb question or not, but would this assist in flashing root over the leaked 2.1 ?
[Droid Eris Android Development] toastcfh:
yep that amon's go to the thread and let him know it works also pm him
[Droid Eris Android Development] letterboxdreams:
I'm not 100% sure on how to use ADB, but if someone could get me started, I'm sure after fooling around I could figure it out. I know a little bit of Linux programming, so I may be able to tinker around and get this 2.1 off and root my Eris. I don't need a huge walk-through, but I just need that first push.

TIA!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Novakanator:
maps

Hey im New, i just went from 1.5 to the 2.1 root. I have 3 questions. 1. can i use the Wifi tethering? 2 is there a way to get google maps to work. 3 Is there a way to download apps that are "Not Signed correctly"
[Droid Eris Android Development] Raziken:
So I got PB00IMG.zip to load up an edited image in hboot, but it seems to fail when Checking, oh well, going to try fastboot push for a Downgrade.

Edit, No cigar on Fastboot. Close maybe, gonna try OEM-78

Edit 2, And also fail... I dunno. Might need to edit build.prop in system image, but for whatever reason I'm unable to locate it in the usual manor I do. I'm open to Ideas.
[Droid Eris Android Development] GrdLock:
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/53696-tutorial-setup-wifi-tethering.html

If you're talking about the navigation, then yes: http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/53634-id-like-clarify-something.html

Currently, no.
[Droid Eris Android Development] RelientDusk:
OK, so like the vast majority of people in the Eris world, i went to the 2.1 leak. Where will a fix to get to the rooted 2.1 be posted? Here or in a separate thread?

BTW Great job on getting root guys!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Novakanator:
how do i add the sdk and get wifi tether on my root phone

i have the SDK on the computer but when i run the install_windows.bat it said device not found
[Droid Eris Android Development] GrdLock:
Android SDK: http://androidforums.com/187889-post5.html (those directions are for taking screenshots with the ddms application, but they include setting it up as well)

Tutorial for wifi tethering: http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/53696-tutorial-setup-wifi-tethering.html
[Droid Eris Android Development] afoulke:
They will most likely make a new thread trust me the devs know alot of people went to 2.1 I think every dev went 2.1 so it will be a big deal like finding root when the ability to downgrade is available please just be patient.
[Droid Eris Android Development] iloveandroid:
How would you root if your already on the 2.1 leak
[Droid Eris Android Development] GrdLock:
You can't root yet if you're running the 2.1 leak.

Be patient. A solution is in the works.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Novakanator:
i am having alot of Trouble with this SDK think. i cant seem to get it to find my phone when i run the istall_windows
[Droid Eris Android Development] iloveandroid:
Is there any way to downgrade
[Droid Eris Android Development] GrdLock:
Not yet, no.
[Droid Eris Android Development] afoulke:
Please everyone use the search feature to find these questions before posting that just makes these forums longer like this repetitive post by me reminding you all to use search and patience is a virtue. :D The Dev team is working on it, they dont get paid to do this so let them do what they do instead of having to answer the same questions over and over.
[Droid Eris Android Development] thibbledorf:
recovery link gone. anyone have?

Anyone have a working link to Amon's recovery for eris?...or did the recovery not work?:D

[u/4481275/recovery.img