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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aichemist:
Your steps should be

1. Shutdown tp2..

2. Remove memory card( I also removed sim card).

3. Turn on tp2, connect through the computer through active sync.

4. Run task 29. Let it load flash, whatever it is doing until it actually reboots.

5. At this point, everything should be cleaned, you don't have a rom or radio anymore, so its blank, so you "pull battery out."

6. Put memory card/sim card back in. Flash radio through boot whatever menu. Soft reset it yourself. Pull battery out again.

7. Flash rom this time, and soft reset it again. Now rom should start setting up.

This shouldn't be rocket science.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmicha:
Solution - Not So Much

Well...I tried the Task 29 solution, and all went as planned.

Great tool. great learning experience, but sure enough I still got SOD'd the next day after.

This does not surprise me at all, I have been trouble shooting this for quite some time, and while disabling automatic updates for Facebook, Twitter, and weather make it happen WAY less, it STILL does it every now and then.

I believe this is a ROM issue (I am using new HTC 2.5 stock ROM) and was skeptical that this "cleaning process" was the fix as switching back to 2.1 ROM fixed the SOD issue every time.

I know some of the cooked 2.5 ROMS out there do not have SOD issues, however I really like the stock HTC ROM, so I am waiting for them to provide a fix soon (good luck right?) OR for one of us to solve it here at XDA (more likely, eventually).

Thanks All!

Michael
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ibster:
I guess the question is also how much you customize your device and how many tweaks you apply? The SOD issue is so annoying because it is very hard to tell on what part's problem lays. I've never had SOD with the stock manila 2.5 ROM. Others did. Same thing for custom ROMs. In the end I just know that since I erased the internal memory from phone with this tool, a ROM that would just overwhelm me with SODs, is now behaving well and I really haven't had a SOD for now 5 days. Good luck to you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
I had been installing Dutty's task Manager2.1 on the euro 207 rom and after a few days went by, I would get that SOD. This time I didn't install the Task manager and have just been using the task manager that comes with the phone to close programs. After running it now for 4 days, I have not had an SOD.

Just wondering if this could be the problem. That extra Task manager?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sd73ta:
I have tried flashing the stock att rom, hard ressting, task 29, and a new sim. still getting the sod. then I noticed my bootloader said:

RHOD300 32M MI-BC

SPL-0.85.OliNex

MicroP(LED) Wrong Plat(0xFD)

MicroP(Key) 0x04

Turbo HW/ Turbo SW

TP MFG DATA

522,537 822,853

824,219 220,218

224,854 Calibrated

The line "MicroP(LED) Wrong Plat(0xFD)" might be the problem. Anyone else with the sod have this?

Edit: anit77 found a solution. I had to reflash hardspl and everything has been fine : )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mtbmdk:
I flashed task 29 then HTC Euro/WWE Sense 2.5, it has been running for a week with no problems, all seems well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ctbear:
same here...using the current rom for over a week now and no freezing at all

you guys should really try the tool out :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmicha:
Task 29 Does NOT Cure SOD

Many people are trying this great tool for better flashes, but in most instances people still get SOD after.

It is something HTC is aware of and working on (whenever the fix happens...).

People get more or less SODs depending on programs / setup / usage of auto updates, etc... sometimes i go a week without one, sometime every day...

So just because you have not had one in days / or a week after this or any other supposed fix, does not mean you are done w/ SOD until an updates ROM or fix comes out.

Good luck everyone!

Michael
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ctbear:
Of course there is no guarantee, but in many cases the tool does help a lot

So why not? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ibster:
Hey Micha, if you've read the first post, I think you'd see what we were talking about.

To answer your conclusion I can only say that indeed there must be different reasons for SOD issues. Most people had them with custom ROMs and only some have reported the issue with the stock HTC ROMs. So I think nobody would come to an idea to ask HTC if they could address a SOD issues people are having with custom ROMs. The point is, the SOD issue is an old one but there are also different reasons for SODs occuring.

In the case of many who had this problem with custom ROMs the tool "task29" has resolved those issues. So there you have a plausible explanation that the earlier phone releases still had "dust" sitting in the RAM left by older ROMs and WinMo Builds and it seems that the task29 manages to "undust" the guts of the phone memory and therefore resolves the conflict between the old vs. new.

In my case I wasn't able to use almost no custom ROM (except the manila 2.1 ones) since mid March because of permanent SODs reoccurence. Since I used this tool almost two weeks ago I haven't had NO SOD with exact same ROMs I had the SOD problem with or haven't had it with any custom ROM I've tried since then.

So does this tool resolve the SOD issue? The answer is - Yes!

Nice day to all!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Forever_n00b:
I had the SOD issue on the Cell Evo 7.5 Sense 2.1. Ran task 29 and the issue got resolved. I'm on Leo Cell Evo Sense 2.5 right now which I flashed after task29. Guess what? sleeep oooof deaaath!

So does this tool resolve the SOD issue? The answer is - Yes! Sometimes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mmicha:
OK...Task 29 May Help Some People w SOD...Maybe ;)

I think Task 29 is a great tool, but I can tell you based on reading all the forums on the boards that MANY people are having massive SODs with recent 2.5 builds of custom ROMS and ALL of the recently released HTC stock ROMS. EVEN new stock / repaired phones shipping with the 2.5 ROMS are having SOD issues....they don't have any "left over" info. from prior flashes (just trying to be logical).

I am just trying to help people with more info. as I and others have taken a lot of time to try to resolve the SOD issue with: hard resets, reflashes of ROM, reflashes of SPL, AND Task 29......

And MANY of us STILL have the SOD issues...check the boards yourself...its all there, there is even an SOD poll now ;)

I will still use Task 29 when flashing ROMs while I wait for a "solid" fix.

Best,

Michael
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Saddi2008:
Applications conflict

I noticed a conflict between S2U2 and lockscreen. When you use the two the same time, then you have SOD.

May be there's other conflicts between apps doing the same thing (like incall and outcall screens ...)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
ok: SOD on cell evo 7.5 (sense 2.1) radio .77

used task29.

hmmm, is this the same sod?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DebbieNY13:
I've only flashed my Tilt 2 once (below is my current ROM) and have yet to experience SOD. Seems most have it with Sense 2.5, but not always. Perhaps it's due to particular ROM builds?

Debbie
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
so, whats going on?

sod on every rom?

are roms out there without those problems?

definatly the solution is not found, isn`t it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 80B:
no sod´s with TPC v8 21898 Rom since 3 weeks :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
i do not mean if somebody is free of sods.

i want to know if there are actually roms out there, where nobody is reporting sod !?

perhaps all roms with wm6.1 or special builds of wm6.5 ?

when did the sod thing start ? i want to go back to flash a rom of my needs just bevor that time .

i want a real stable rom and not a rom with the highest buildnumber.

i lost the overview.

the task29 thing is definatly not the real solution.

or am i missing something? can someone point me to the stable side?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
I use NRG's ROMs, and so I follow his thread. I can't recall seeing anyone reporting SOD in that thread for a long time now. I can't compare with other ROMs since I don't follow the other threads.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
thank you.

i also read some sides of tpc`c thread and saw nobody reporting sods.

perhaps i give it a try.

so some cheffs got it working and don`t share there findings to the others?

please report further sod-free-roms.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rgb-rgb:
To answer your question, Chefs and other people are all sharing what they know about it. Some even go as far a sharing kitchens to help locate the issues.

If they knew what the answer was, they would tell us in a heartbeat.

TPC has been more than willing to help in any way possible!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Loconinja:
I am currently running the official HTC Sense 2.5 ROM.

Before flashing, I ran Task29 and my phone was SOD-free for many weeks.

However, I am getting the SOD at least once a day now. We need to determine exactly what is causing this. Presumably it is something in Sense 2.5?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ScooterG:
FYI, I had SOD issues with the latest 4/4 build of the TPC ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rgb-rgb:
I don't use Sense or Manila at all in my ROM at all but still have the SOD issue.

Only thing I have done lately (2 days ago) was switch the OEM folder back to the original OEM folder from my Tilt 2. I had been using the OEM folder from the HTC 2.07 ROM. Since switching back I have not had an SOD incident. But, I had weeks at a time before when I did not have it. So, only more time will tell if it comes back.

I also switched my Radio back to the 4.48.25.20 (just haven't updated my signature yet)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] billgs:
Been using a Gsm Rhodium with stock HTC Sense 2.5 WWE for about 3 months, not a single SOD.Changed to NRG Leo 23xxx from April 1st till today, changing versions as soon as they were up, no SODs whatsoever...

Until today, when I had two consecutive SODs!

So I am in the club now, I guess...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TR_Maniac:
I use Cell pro 13.5 sense 2.1 rom. Also had a SOD. I always use task29 before flashing custom rom.

If it occurs on HTC stock rom why doesn't HTC fix this problem???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] groovebiscuit:
I have gone all the way back to the original stock 6.1 rom that was on the device when I bought it; I ran task29 first. I am going to run this for a while and see if I get SODs even on this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] OndraSter:
I'm not sure how you guys do it, but I had stock ROM for few days and no SODs - including OrangeUK 1.xx WM6.5, TMOUS 61 and TMOUS 6.5, even new HTC Asia/Europe 2.07 and no SODs.

The same for custom ROMs - only time I had SOD was when I was trying stuff in my own ROM and used stock SYS from the 2.07 ROM -- it kept SODding every day. But after recooking it was fine (no changes made even), no SODs anytime except that one. And I've gone through MANY builds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oman00339:
I just got mine (AT&T) yesterday, and had problems even with the stock ROM. I flashed the current build of EnergyROM, and still was getting a SOD. Even multiple hard resets and wipes with task_29 did not fix it.

I have a friend who has one and has never gotten a SOD, so I'm going to get a replacement tomorrow. We'll see how that goes...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Andr3Wcz:
I also have SOD bug with official rom :(

here is what i did:

1.task29

2.official rom wwe

3.HR

4.stock spl

5.HR

So i can confirm that task29 did not fix it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
I'm not personally convinced that everyone in this thread is talking about the same issue. The thread title is even "Screen of Death", shouldn't it be "Sleep of Death", because that was the original problem - i.e. phone goes to sleep but can't be woken up ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Andr3Wcz:
yes thats my problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
yes , exactly the problem.

i did not get it often, but when i use my phone to wake me up in the morning , this f***** device has to wakeup first.

question:

are there sod on other phones with newer roms or is it rhodium specific?

better go back to a rom that was cooked bevor the sod first appeared.

i am actually on jackos 6.1 tf3d 2.1 and that is soooo stable!

in the last days i realized that i do not need the sense 2.5 thing.

with a little configuration that oldschool rom is nearly perfekt.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xyap:
I fixed the problem for me when first using task29 and then flashing from mSD. Before I had many SODs when flashing from windows. Now no SOD any more with same ROMs.

Cheers,

yap
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
I flash from my sd card all the time and I still get SOD's I allways task 29 also before I flash.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Andr3Wcz:
SOD caused by wallpaper?

maybe im wrong but i think that its caused by using wallpaper from sd card. I had SOD a lot and now im using default wallpaper and I didnt have SOD for 3days. What you think?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mistm:
I never used wallpaper from SD card and i had SOD several times.... its not definitly the cause. I experience SOD on different ROM ... I just filtred ROM where I dont get it and I use them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] groovebiscuit:
Can you list which ROMs you don't get SOD on? I'm using the stock WinMo 6.5 Sense 2.1 WWE ROM and it's been fine for the last week but I miss Sense 2.5. Have you had success with any 2.5 ROMs?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ScooterG:
See ROM/Radio combo in sig. I flashed, had no SOD for about a week, enabled Twitter updates every half hour, got 2 SOD that day, disabled Twitter updates and the tab, no SOD in over a week. I know it tends to be different for everyone, but that's what has worked for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] groovebiscuit:
I've tried it already and got SODs but I did have Twitter updates going. I might give it another go without Twitter. Also it wasn't the WOHC version. I do really like AthineOS ROMs.

I'm running the latest stock rom at the moment so I'll see how that goes for a while; I've heard people getting sods on that one too but it might be twitter again...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] korayem:
And i thought it was me only getting SODs!

I falled back to the original stock after going through circles of different cooked roms, even the official WWE W6.5 w/Sense 2.5.

But quite honestly, didn't try Task 29. don't think i will since people are divided between "yaay it works!" and "bummer!" and i have wasted tons of my precious time trying to find that perfect ROM before reading this thread!

I have subscribed to the thread to see where does this lead us to....XDA-Developers community are a hard to know community, HTC. So hit us with your best shot!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] faria:
this was a recomended procEdure in the hermes days,We did not have SODs but the device would hardreset itself .

i can also confirm that some programs that auto lock the device after screen-off do cause SOD.

as for the cause being chefs not using the official 6.5 xip thats because MSXIPKernel from 6.5 is not compatible with 6.5.x as far as i can remember my testing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] groovebiscuit:
I got my first SOD on the stock WWE WM6.5 Sense2.5 ROM yesterday :(, time to go and give this one a go now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] AngelDeath:
Sorry just an FYI,

I just ran a series of tests on the today/home screen with the rain animation on the today screen, it runs roughly between 60% CPU - 82% CPU until the rain animation stops at which point it goes back to 0 the clock flipping take approx 10 - 20% cpu, here is the kicker, with no clock on the screen only quick links the CPU useage is approx 37 - 53%.

Using CookieMonsters Home Mod having only the clock bar and nothing else on the screen approx 30 - 43% CPU. Analog clock with quick links 52 - 72% CPU.

I believe if the images for manila (all of manila) were compressed using chainfires CFC, I think it would greatly reduce the lag that occurs, improve performance, and possiblly help if not stop the SOD's. But as I said, its my opinion.

These tests are being done on a Stock SEA Rom 2.07.707.1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
I do wonder whether the title of this thread is a little misleading (i.e. "Solution Found"), given that the problem seems to be going on ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tiptaptwo:
Had this problem ever since I first turned the phone on (an AT&T HTC Tilt 2), although at the time I thought I just wasn't understanding how the system works. Been through a few different ROMs now, have tried several of the things listed in this thread, but the SoD problem always persists. Really disappointing, since I like the device quite a bit otherwise.

It doesn't actually require resetting the phone to wake it up though. Here are the steps that usually work to restore it without resetting:

1. Slide the keypad out.

2. Slide it back in, lights on the 4 buttons at the bottom of the phone should turn on.

3. Press power button, lights shut off.

4. Slide the keypad out again, the device should resume from sleep after this.

It just takes a lot of fiddling around with the power button and keypad sliding to fix it if these specific steps don't do it at first.

Not sure if any of that helps diagnose the actual root of the problem here though, but I didn't see this method of restoring the system from sleep posted anywhere so I thought I'd share just in case.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cjm1979:
I agree, as i only have had screen of death on Ark's and Dot's roms and even when ive used this it still happens.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Andr3Wcz:
yes exactly! I have also SODs after Ark rom and also i noticed that when i flashed radio my phone was shown as Ark rom even I use Energy and even I always use Task29 before flashing. So I think that Task 29 dont erase whole storage (some wrong drivers must persist) and if it was, it would be the solution for this problem.

(sorry for my english)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cjm1979:
Whats to say that this solves nothing and the sod is caused by drivers in the rom you are loading? I cant see this solving it because the sod as only started on roms i use within the last 2-3 months, around the time of the leaked official htc 2.5 roms.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bleating Sheep:
Hi,

I've spent a lot of time trying to get to the bottom of the Sleep of Death problem. I see the SoD on both cooked ROMs and the most recent HTC stock ROMs. Specifically I don't see it on the most October 2009 Vodafone ROM (Version 1.86.161.0 with a 4.49.25.27 radio) (or the equivalent vanilla HTC one) but I do see it on the most recent HTC Europe ROM (Version 2.07.401.1 with a 4.49.25.91 radio) and on cooked ROMS using a Windows Mobile build of the same or newer vintage as the HTC ROM.

I've tried the following (based on various suggestions):

- Deleted the XML additions to my favourite contacts on Exchange and recreated them. This had no effect.

- Used Task 29 prior to writing a new ROM to the device. This had no effect and I agree with an another post that I believe Task 29 is automatically performed when you use a stock HTC upgrade executable (or similar).

- Re-locked and used the stock SPL with the HTC ROM in case it was a hard SPL issue. This had not effect.

- Most recently I instaled the most recent stock HTC ROM and started using it without Manilla (ie the default Windows Mobile today screen). This worked well for a few days but I've now started having SoD again. Interestingly this didn't start until I installed a weather app onto my today screen.

- Got a new SIM card from Vodafone. My SIM was around 8 years old and I read that this might be causing the SoD. This had no effect.

I am firmly of the opinion that the issue is a fundamental Operating System bug related to data access while the screen is off.

What surprises me enormously is that I reported this problem to HTC at the end of March and they said "I have not heard of this issue before, so must be limited to some devices only. I would advise that you reinstall the rom update as an error could have occurred during the installation. To ensure there are no errors I would ask that you download it from the website again". Fair advice but it had no effect.

I hope HTC are taking it seriously and are looking for a solution. I'm quite disappointed that they don't seem able to fix the problem or even acknowledge its existence.

Baaaa
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Axesplit:
Hi everyone,

New here but wanted to post my opinion. I have been using the Leo Cell Evo&Pro V9.1 for about two weeks now and started experiencing the SOD. In my experience as an engineer this usually is because of some sort of driver or resource conflict, as many of you have stated here.

For me I have used Cookie's HTE to select a clock without weather, took weather off the home tab and switched from using a animated/weather home wallpaper to just a normal one.

My phone seems to be much more responsive now and I have not seen anymore SODs for about two hours. I will post again if anything changes or the SODs come back.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] palah:
Is SOD when you see the Alignment Screen?

Hi All,

using NRG May 1 rom and have experienced after taking locked phone out of pocket the 'alignment screen' twice yesterday and once the day before... even if you click on X and align the screen, TP2 screen just goes white (with top task bar seemingly working but not accessable... taking battery out is only solution found... found this happening on HTC generic 6.5 once in a while as well... is this the SOD taking about?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] AngelDeath:
No the SOD is basically the phone going into Standby(Black screen) and when you slide the keyboard out or press the power button, the phone does not wake up, your sound more like a System or OS crash.

Axesplit, please do so, As I stated in my long winded post, I believe the weather on the today/home screen has a part to play in the SOD.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] palah:
yes but same effect ... requires the battery out for reboot...:( ... only happens every now and then but 3 times in two days makes a pain... anyway thanks for clarification
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] faria:
I have edited the tread title as it was a bit misleading.:)

regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
the new title isn't better.

because task29 is definatly not the solution for the SOD problem.

(i got a solution : i use wm6.1 :D )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] faria:
it seems nothing is!:D flashing the official rom before flashing my custom rom fixed my problem,but as many point it out there seems to be lots of causes.

personally I believe that its related to manilla.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] AngelDeath:
Here's what the title should say: "Screen of Death" on (almost) every recent custom & stock ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] faria:
quite rite.

,edited.