yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] skyhacker:
Boas tenho estado a testar esta rom e parece-me excelente, sabes se a o novo manila que vais integrar torna o telefone muito mais rapido ou é apenas um pouco porque nesse caso irei passar para o sense 2.1.

Obrigado pela rom parece estar muito boa e em PT-PT :D

Excelente trabalho

Hello i've been testing this rom and it's excelent, do u know if the nem manila ur testing is gonna speed up the phone a lot ou just bit, in the last case i'll be flashing the sense 2.1 version.

Thx for the ROM it appears really good and it's PT-PT :D

Excelent work
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
A diferença de velocidade não é muito superior, nota-se maior fluidêz na parte grafica, mas não se pode dizer que é fabolosamente mais rápida.

It isn't a big improvment, but I can notice some speed increase on graphics.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] brk:
Obrigado pela rom, vou testar. Cumprimentos
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] skyhacker:
Boas de novo notei 2 problemas na Rom (critica construtiva), o quick GPS não está a funcionar, faz o download do ficheiro mas depois diz que ocorreu um erro na ligação, e adicionei três atalhos na zona do quick launch em baixo e ficaram todos desnivelados, se quiseres posto pic, em principio vou testar a do Sense 2.1 depois ponho la se axar bugs ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Vou validar o Quick GPS, quanto aos links, não estou a ter esse problema, podes colocar uma imagem?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] skyhacker:
Ok entretanto descobri o problema que estava a fazer os quick links desalinhados, instalei o Manila Locker MOD by Kisja & amarullz (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5161612&postcount=1120) para tornar o manila locker do Sense 2,5 "usavel" e causou-me isto, ja removi e voltou tudo ao normal :D

Em relação ao quick GPS consegues arranjar uma solução sem ter de reflashar ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Logo que descubra o problema, muito provavelmente sim, parece que existe muita gente a queixar-se do QuickGPS, estou à procura de uma solução.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
O manila locker mod já está incluido na rom, basta ir às configurações->personalizar->Manila Locker. A versão online não tem o local PT, por isso deixou de funcionar.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Correcção para o quickGPS:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6020020&postcount=5
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
New version with sense 2.5.2012

I'm uploading a testing version with sense 2.5.2012, the interface is more fluid and fast. This is a Testing version and it might have bugs, I won't post it on first page until stable. For everyone willing to test it please refer bugs as belonging to version 2.0. Hope tomorrow morning to post it here.

Estou a fazer upload de uma versão de teste com o sense 2.5.2012, o interface é mais fluido e rápido. Lembrem-se de que é uma versão de teste e pode ter bugs. Não a irei colocar na primeira página até que esteja estável. A todos que estejam dispostos a testá-la, por favor refiram-se aos bugs como pertencentes à versão 2.0.

Espero amanhã de manhã a poder colocar aqui.

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

And there it is:

E aqui está:

L@P.2.0.Beta.rar
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] vitormcs:
Olá, antes demais obrigado pela partilha da rom, não consegui concluir a instalação da 1.1, dando-me erro no final, quanto a 2.0 beta noto pouca fluidez comparada com a rom com sense 2.1 que apresentas, essa sim, bem rápida e fluída com um belo trabalho.

Se conseguisses o mesmo desempenho nesta com o sense 2.5 era fantástico :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] skyhacker:
não sei se vai ser possivel melhorar muito a performance visto o sense 2,5 ser bastante pesado (na ram por exemplo).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
É como dizes... esta versão do sense 2.5.2012 é a mais rápida alguma vez construida. O hardware para o qual foi desenvolvido é substâncialmente superior ao do Diamond, os cozinheiros têm feito um excelente trabalho e parece-me que este é o fim de linha. Pode-se aumentar o pagepool e aumentar a performance, mas preparem-se para não conseguir executar muitas aplicações por falta de memória.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Tomorrow I'll try this one. I've never tried any cooked roms, it'll be the first time. If this's based on the Gen.Y then it most certainly rock, from what I've seen on youtube.

Obrigado aí, depois de testar posto feedback.

Abraço
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Well, after a 30 minutes test the ROM looks pretty fast. Very good indeed.

Though I have two questions:

1 - The home physical button does not work, how to fix this? [EDIT: a soft reset seems to have fixed the problem]

2 - The customized start menu does not let me access the standard definitios of WM, so I cannot access the remove files configuration, how to do it?

Abraço ;) E parabéns pelo trabalho!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] plantunes:
Esta ROM, como tem o SENSE 2.5.2012, dá para colocar o relófio "flip" mais pequeno com o tempo mais de lado como algumas que se vêem aqui?

Tem também 4 links ao fundo?

Permite vídeo-chamadas?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Dá, basta usar o tweak Co0kie's Home Tab v1.7.1, se bem que com este tweak a memória fica mais baixa, o uso do Opera fica comprometido. Eu pessoalmente uso o Home Tab, mas nunca uso o Opera, optei pelo opera mobile windows native e a coisa funciona bem.

Quanto à video chamada, eu não incluí porque a memória é mesmo muito pouca, se houver uma quantidade suficiente de utilizadores que a queiram eu posso pensar nisso.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
1 - Never notice Home bug, perhap's it was low in memory and task manager killed key manager???

2 - Use Sense Settings Page, Right menu -> All Settings.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Yes I've managed to figure it out, I searched a little bit more and found it.

Well, I've been playing around with it and the ROM looks absolutely great, pretty good performance, given the fact that Sense 2.5 wasn't made for a slow processor like the one in the Diamond. Memory usage is around 80% normally after a couple of hours of usage and exploration, opening tabs and programs leaves DLLs on the RAM (a good thing, because they open faster on the second time).

If I find something else I'll keep you posted ;)

Thanks once again! ;)

EDIT: Well there are a question I forgot to ask:

1 - The HTC Album natively on the Diamond stock rom, supports G-rotation. In this rom, the rotation happens to the sliding movement but no to the photos themselves, is this supposed to happen? Photos always appear in landscape mode, even fotos that were taken in portrait mode.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Thanks for the review and for using my ROM once again. The biggest credit goes to yozgatg and sense porting team. As for your question, you must add album to g-config. I didn't add it by default because album allways show the best fit for photo and it look's good to me.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
I just made a hard-reset now and Album is indeed in the Gconfig... This makes the photo scrolling capable in both the device vertical and horizontal, although if I set it horizontal, the side scrolling is very slow compared to the vertical scrolling.

Is there any way to remove this HTC album and install the one that comes with the stock ROM?

EDIT: Another one, I used to use "No sleep" to prevent the backlight from going off during a call, apparently it doesn't work with your ROM, what can I do to provent the light from going off during a call?

Thanks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
I believe so... Just need to find original package... I'm also believe you will lose sense album tab, at least some capabilities! If you find original album just send it to me I'l see what I can do!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Another one, I used to use "No sleep" to prevent the backlight from going off during a call, apparently it doesn't work with your ROM, what can I do to provent the light from going off during a call?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xcforum:
Well Well done !

This rom os great. Congratulations man. Ip've been waiting for a rom like this for a long time. Base GenY and WM6.1 in PT Lang.

Thanks.

The only problem i've noticed is that i can't configure speed dial on the "1" key. It was supposed to be Voicemail, but in my phone that key does nothing when longpressed. Is that a problem of mine or it happens on yours too?

Abraço e continuação do excelente trabalho!

XC
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Thanks. As for voice mail it does not happen to me, but now Im testing the same base with new packages/tweaks so I cant be shure the bug wasn't fixed mean time. Tomorrow I will restore base rom. I will post a solution later. My rom asks for voice mail number first time and then it works like expected.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xcforum:
Yeah, for some reason that wasn't working but after a new hard reset all seems to be working as it should now.

Thkx

XC
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
You forgot to answer one question of mine:

1- How do you prevent the LCD light from going off during a call, since "NoSleep" does not work on this ROM?

2 - I've installed Manila Locker and sometimes the phone completely blocks on black screen and I have to soft-reset. Do you use Manila Locker? Which version works with this ROM?

Thanks :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Didn't... still looking for the answer...

Wich version of manila locker do you use? the version from 2.5.19 is not compatible.

Also don't use "dim light on lock" on manila locker, it as problems.

I've used manila locker with "don't dim backlight"; "unlock on call"; "relock after call" with no problems. Now I'm using cookie Home Tab v.1.7.1 with the same settings with no problem!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Did you MTTY?? this is a kind of NO MTTY BUG!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Hey,

I installed this one: "Manila Locker 2.5.2012 update1.cab" found here in the forum, it does not contain the settings panel as the previous 1920. Is this the one you use? Could you post here the one you are using?

It works fine, but as I said, sometimes it just does not unlock the phone and does not bring the light on, so I have to reset.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
This is the one I've been using before Cookie Home Tab 1.7.1 (it includes Manila locker 2.5.2012, but more stable).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Hmm.. I'll try CHT too. After a while of playing around with the ROM, it does feel slower than the oficial ROM, does your version with the Sense 2.1 feels snapier?

Oh, another bug: the XT9 does not work 100%, there are new words I try to add to the dictionary and they dont get memorized, it has been a pain in the ass to write SMS since I used the numeric keypad for thumb writing. Are you aware of this issue?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Sense 2.1 is mutch faster than 2.5. I was not aware off T9 new work bug, I will take a look.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
I've tested for a few hours your 2.1 ROM and my God the speed!! :D Compared to 2.5, it's very very fast! I'm now with the sense 2.5 ROM 2.0beta, but as I said it's very slow, is there anything I can to to make it a bit faster? Using the WM stock dialer for example, would help? Pagepool increase? I really like Sense 2.5, it has some nice features but the lag is killing me... Very unresponsive turns me mad!:mad:

Oh, I found some bugs in the Sense 2.1 ROM:

1 - in the edit people tab, there were some debug lines of text saying that the text was bigger than the space or something like that, and also when I pulled the calendar from google with ActiveSync, everything was 1 day shifted back, for example, christmas was on the 24th of december... I don't know what happened there... :P
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
OK, let's put some order in the house :) ...

Now we are having some good souls testing them, it's time to compile on main page the bug list. I will try to join it all, but it will be dificult to track sense 2.1 bugs on sense 2.5 forum and the other way arround, I know it will bring to you a bit more effort, but...

As for the time lapse, there was a bug in original sense database for PT-PT Cities, did you check youre timezone at google and the selected citie on sense? Both google and sense must have Lisbon (or other portuguese citie) GMT +0. With this settings never had a problem and I use calendar everyday for meetings.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
You can always use 14 Mb pagepool, but your memory will be so low that the phone will be almost unusable.

Removing HTC dialer also increases memory a lot, but we always get to the point where hardware is the bottleneck, and agains't these...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
I've reinstalled L@P 2.0 Beta from the scratch to be shure there were'nt no tweaks over it and the words I added to xt9 stayed memorized, even after reboot (used the method "add word" when I was typing). Could you give me more details (where did you try to add the word, aplication, selected language, used keyboard, T9 enabled or disabled)?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Peolple editor fixed, just download this file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2124377/xda-developers/lap1.0Beta/Fixes/ContactEditor.exe.0816.mui and copy it to windows folder.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
The thing is, I wanted to add the word "janto" and even after adding it, it kept suggesting the word "jantou", so I had to remove the final "u". But I guess this is just the XT9 imperfectness.

Tomorrow I'll install the 2.1 ROM and as I said, I'll compile a list of issues. I'll also check that "fix" out.

offtopic: Meanwhile, since we both create someting, you create ROMs, I create software, I invite you to check out BatteryCare, a project entirely developed by me. It's very useful if you have a laptop. :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
So we both create software! of course I will test your software. By the way... nice idea!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
I've tried setting the pagepool to 18MB on Sense 2.5 ROM, it felt a bit more responsive, also I disabled the HTC dialer and installed Slide2Unlock to increase available RAM.

I have two suggestions that could improve speed on this ROM:

1 - Use the default keyboards, found on the stock ROM, since they are much faster to type. The keyboards included in this ROM belong to the new HTC devices and they require more processing power, it's impossible to write sms fast as I used to do. EzInput is the way to go here, I guess.

2 - Use the default HTC start menu, the one a little bit larger than the default WM. The current start menu, although it's cute, it's very heavy.

Could you cook a test ROM without this start menu and with the Diamond default one? And also include the Diamond input methods.

Fixed the issue. I will test the Sense 2.1 ROM today.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Thank's for the sugestions. For the start menu you can always disable it (I allways do, I hate it because it's slow), just navigate to HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\Programs.EnableStartMenuReplacement and set is value to 0

As for the keyboards I don't believe it will improve performance, first because I stripped T9 dictictionaries do basic (PT, FR, EN), second because at startup you get 57% memory usage, it is a lot of memory, and ant this point you get the best performance diamond will ever get with sense 2.5, you only start to feel memory lost at 90% memory usage, of course I can always build just for you a rom with your request's if you wish.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Thanks for the tip about the start menu :)

About the keyboard, there's no need to compile a version just for me, I'll get use to it.

I've been testing all day, first on the morning I tested the Sense 2.1 ROM and after a while I checked the RAM usage and it was about the same as the 2.5 one. The difference in speed is not enough to make me want to use it because Sense 2.5 is much more pleasant and has some new nice features. It's a bit slower but I guess I can live with that.

Here's some curious thing that happened, I was testing pagepool sizes, and I set Sense 2.5 rom with 20MB and after flashing, everytime I made a soft-reset, the device made a hard-reset. I investigated and came across a bad flash... I was about to make the famous MTTY when I saw here in the forum that, flashing an original ROM would also do the trick and fix the issue. And so I did, I flashed the official 2.03 ROM and after that I flashed your ROM with 18MB pagepool and it looks good.

After disabling the tachi dialer and installing S2U and using the device for a couple of hours, configuring everything and such, I get 79% free RAM.

I still have to find out what's the best combination:

HTC dialer disabled and S2U to answer calls;

or

HTC dialer enabled and Cookie Tab with manila locker;

How are you using the ROM at the moment? Oh, and what Radio are you using? I'm TMN, does that matter, or it's just the country that matters?

I have 1.09.25.23 and it gets very hot during calls, and battery drains very fast during calls, on GSM only, I dont use 3G.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Of course I use it :) but with one small change, I use it in english! Being a software developer for 15 years it's hard to get used to PT Operating systems.

As for Cookie, I also use it (unless bugs on L@P Rom) but beware it consumes memory very fast, get used to 85%, S2U2 I've left it behind a while ago, Manile locker was a good memory/performance compromise. As for Radio, please use 1.13.25.24, it consumes less battery and the phone stay's cooler.

Original rom's has built in rom format that's why it solved your problem, remember always MTTY (or original rom first) or you will certanly have problems.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Strange thing happened just now, I installed cookie tab and made a soft-reset. Now it made the same thing again, the hard-reset, it started to install the ROM when an error poped saying that could no find a certain cab for the installation... :( I had it all setup and now I have to start over...

Could this be caused by the pagepool being setup at 18MB?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
This is just what happens when I'm too lazy and avoid MTTY. Never used 18Mb PP, so can't have opinion. Please try first MTTY, if you have any problem performing format please say something, I will help you.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Hi, I managed to make the MTTY and flashed the ROM with 12MB PP. I will test it in the next few days and then'll post feedback. ;)

I found one thing, I don't know if you removed it on purpose, but, when viewing a contacts details, if I click on "View Facebook album", it just loads the default album and not the FB one.

edit: No need to create another reply, but I've been testing the HTC album and it fails alot! lol I can't even play videos, it just crashes, mostly because of not enough memory. In Coreplayer everything runs fine, both MP4 recordings and Xvid AVIs, in the album not even the recorded MP4 run fine. I really would like to have the diamond stock Album in this ROM.

edit2: I've been playing with other album versions (didnt manage to find the original 2.0 included in stock diamond, though) and well the version you include, the 3.0 one, found on the Tachi I guess, seems the best one, it does not support auto rotation but it's faster, and about the memory consumption, here's a fix:

found here.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Well, after 10 days, I can tell that the ROM is mostly stable, although it crashed a few times always because of the Album. HTC Album 3.0 included, consumes alot of RAM and when loading videos from it, fs free RAM is low, it crashes.

Maybe including the HTC Album 2.0 found on the stock Diamond would improve this. And maybe it could also support image rotation. 3.0 does not support it, unfortunately.

Globally it's a very good ROM and I'm very happy with it! :)

PS - been using it with the HTC dialer disabled (S2U, with slide2answer), 12MB page pool, and with the following tabs disabled:

internet;

twitter;

stocks;

I installed Opera Mobile 10, it's faster than the included 9.7 and Mini 5.0.

:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xcforum:
Well, in my case i've been using this rom for about 2 weeks and all seems to work in a very stable way.

PP: 12 MB

RAM: 75-80% after some time

Disabled Tabs: Music, Internet, Stocks.

Cookie Home tab enabled.

Tachi Phone Dialer enabled

Radio: 1.17.25.09

GPS isn't workins as well as it worked when i was using GENY2.6 ROM. It gets a lot of time to connect and it often looses connection...

In general the rom behavior is very good and i'm very happy with it. :)

XC
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Im using radio 1.12..25.16 and GPS signal is found after 10s max. With the car in movement it takes around 30s. It has never been so fast. With the stock rom and radio 1.09 it took about 2 3 minutes...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xcforum:
Ok, I'll try that radio. Thanks for share that info.

XC :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
Also don't forget to keep quickGPS updated, my black diamond take about 12 seconds to fix, white diamond fixes in 6 seconds... amazing...

White diamond hardware must be different, even with cold GPS boot and outdated QuickGPS it fixes in 40 seconds, I've waited 5 minutes with black diamond with same conditons, so, hardware has a word to say.

Also black diamond loses signal from time to time for about one second and white diamond never loses signal.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
Mine is black and I never noticed signal loss, even with the previous radio.

This radio is good for GPS but during calls it also gets very hot and drains the battery fast during a call.

However, if the phone is idle most of the time, the standby time is alot longer. :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xcforum:
Well, i've been testing GPS with some radio roms.

The result is quite the same in all of them - even with quikgps updated, some times it takes 15-20 seconds and some other it can reach 4 or 5 minutes to wake up.

Tomtom takes allways more time than NDrive...

Of all the radios i've tested i think the better one is 1.17.25.09 on various things like battery drain, wi-fi signal, etc. About GPS is like all the others.

Diamond 2 gets GPS signal very much earlier then touch diamond and it can get signal in harder conditions, like indoor...

However, this is my device and i can live with this handicaps...!

XC
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fjlour:
I use tomtom and it's very fast. However, with the old ROM and radio it wasn't :P

I must test that radio 1.17 since I've heard that it drains less battery.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lap33733:
I still thing it might be hardware related, exemple:

I have 2 diamond's, one white other black, same radio, same SPL, same Rom, white reports 192Mb memory, black reports 128Mb (They both only have 128Mb avaliable for user). White has excelent GPS signal and bad WIFI, black has excelent WIFI and bad GPS signal, they both are DIAM100. So, hardware had some changes over the time (white is newer).