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[Windows Phone 7 General] jasonjoo:
Nothing. Delaying the release of Windows Phone 7 Series would hurt their potential to gain a good amount of market share as the holiday season comes around, and it would make it difficult for their hardware partners to adjust their own product schedules. And it would affect their stock prices; MS doesn't want to see that drop.

At this point, there is little to nothing you can do. Microsoft is set on their new direction with WP7S, and nothing you can do right now will change that. Apple has obviously succeeded in what they do, despite their (former) lack of copy & paste, draconian App Store policies, and the only recent implementation of MMS. It's obvious Windows Mobile was not as successful as Microsoft would've liked, so it needed to step up their game and change their strategy. Taking cues from Apple is one way of doing that (because face it, it has worked so far).

If you would like customization and no Marketplace and whatnot, you'll have to stick with WM6.5.x or move to Android. Features like copy & paste definitely should be in there. But do you think WP7S will NEVER have those features? Keep in mind that it's only been in development for a bit over a year and they still have quite a bit left to go. Depending on how Microsoft plans to update this, we may see copy & paste sometime before launch or even a little bit after launch.

I don't want to say to stop complaining. But keep requesting it, and it'll be put in WP7S someday. These kinds of petitions rarely ever work though, and in this particular case it has an even lesser chance of succeeding.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gogol:
Why dont you tell Microsoft?

Start with giving them feedback on their blogs. They read ...
[Windows Phone 7 General] witch1:
I will not buy that garbage, and it is garbage.:mad:
[Windows Phone 7 General] therealreddavid:
No-one wants to hurt Microsoft, we want to encourage them to make a better product for us to use.
[Windows Phone 7 General] therealreddavid:
That is some terrible writing. You should really try studying English, and read up on how it should be used when you're trying to make a point. All you've done there is massively overcomplicate your sentences with unclear language and indirect phrases, and then made it look even worse by writing "you're" instead of "your". It's really poor work. Time for a redraft, I'd suggest.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
I don't care if everyone from PPCgeeks, here and 10 other sites asked for NO DRM, it would never happen. People want to play back protected content and the music people want their content protected.

You could always do what everyone else does...Rip your songs from a disc, then put them on your player...no DRM...
[Windows Phone 7 General] fortunz:
What on earth are you talking about? The vast majority of music is now sold in unprotected mp3s. We already won that battle.

rory was likely referring to application protection. Marketplace applications will likely limit our ownership rights in various annoying ways via DRM. Of course, those limits will do nothing to prevent piracy, they'll just annoy law-abiding, paying customers.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rfarrah:
Signed and sent.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jasonjoo:
Probably the only limitation WP7S owners have is being unable to take the app files and install them on someone else's phone. For now, we've been able to install Marketplace on any phone, sign in under our Windows Live username, and install the apps we own, right (at least, outside of sideloading)? I doubt they'll change this. An iPhone (1st gen) owner could have still bought an app and then redownload it on an iPhone 3G or 3GS at no cost.

Not all DRM is bad, and some is necessary. It's just how it's implemented and what it does that is critical. Steam, for example, does not cripple anyone's ability to do anything. The only thing you have to do is log-in to play games; even if you don't have Internet access, there is offline mode.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
In the case of iPhone, software purchased from the App Store could be installed into 5 devices using the same user account. This is usually enough for the while family. However it is possible that the entire family sell their iPod/iPhones and get themselves new iPhones. To address this requirement, Apple dies allow user to deauthorise the previous 5 devices and authorize new set of 5 devices. I think this is a clever and friendly approach which MS should also imitate.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fortunz:
All DRM is bad, some is just less bad than others. And while Steam is great -- it isn't a universal DRM scheme. Some companies can opt to increase their own protections on their own games, including activation limits, inability to play offline, etc. Some Steam games (though thankfully fewer than have it on disc) even have securom malware.

Social DRM seems reasonable to me. It attaches your information to media in question, in some cases, even part if not all of your purchase information. The message: share at your own peril. One major ebook company does it that way. That is at least preferable to "phone home" tactics, and does little to hamper my legal use of the property. Outside that, I consider virtually all DRM unreasonable. And necessary? Ha! DRM doesn't prevent piracy. Period. It only hurts paying customers.

Having finished proving that to the music industry, you'd think game companies, ebook publishers et al would save themselves millions in making the same mistakes and instead pursue policies that actually do prevent or compensate for piracy (lawsuits, takedown notices, deals with Universities and ISPs etc).
[Windows Phone 7 General] gogol:
Don't like where Windows Phone 7 Series is headed? Let's do something about it!

Yupe, I did ... I ordered an Android device :) HTC Desire ...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Qtek8020User:
Great initiative... Just signed.

Waiting for my HD Mini :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] sdlopez83:
im sure they will take this petition into consideration... lol I hate this **** I really do.
[Windows Phone 7 General] anarchyuk:
It good to keep people busy making petitions etc, but Microsoft are moving with the times, what will sell more? a hackable 6.x windows mobile or a friendly gui and easy to use touch interface? as the majority of iPhones are not sold to people planning to hack them, less that 20% of iphones are even jailbroken. who knows what possibilities having the min hardware requirements MS have stipulated will bring..

As others have said, the best talk is with your feet but I doubt that will even bother them with the amount of seasoned XDA users compared the millions who are not tech savy that can now get into the smartphone world without complicatedness..
[Windows Phone 7 General] rfarrah:
I believe you are right. Everyday folk significantly outnumber power users. It's a matter of numbers. But wouldn't you want to leave the door open for folks like us?
[Windows Phone 7 General] anarchyuk:
I would hope they consider it, If you look at the current state of XDA new builds of wm6.5.x are released every other day on here and flashed on to old hardware. If you look at it from a business point of view stopping this means if you want the new stuff you will have to pay for it. :-(

but who knows what kind of things people on here will be able to do once they start getting there hands on it!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Twinnie:
This petition is once again a bunch of geeks ignoring the fact that most people simply don't need these extra options confusing them, especially when only 1% of people are actually going to use them and those people are usually capable of hacking the phone open to get those features themselves.

- an open file system accessible to the user

Again, 99% of people don't need or want this (they'd just break something, god forbid my girlfriend ever got to the file system on my iPhone). A good app should do the hard work for you and for all we know there may be apps coming out that will allow you to get to the file system, Windows Phone Marketplace will be more open than the App Store, it's just a question of how much more.

- copy + paste

As mentioned in another thread, it's coming.

- true multitasking

The reason I didn't want my girlfriend to get an Android phone is because of the multitasking. The phone would start slowing down and eating up the battery and she simply wouldn't know why. I could teach her how to manage the open programs and to close what she isn't using but why should she have to do that when she isn't even going to use multitasking, it's a big inconvenience for the sake of a small group of people. It isn't like her laptop where she can see all the programs that are open on the task bar, most non-tech-savvy people don't understand that something can still be running when they can't see it any more.

- true customization

In what way? Changing just the look or completely changing what we can do with it? Android has this going and all it has is a completely fragmented user base resulting in an app store that is completely neglected despite the huge growth in audience.

I think it's fantastic that smartphones aren't just for us lot any more, now everyone's starting to use them and understand how useful this kind of device is to have on you all the time, just in your pocket. If you lot are like me then you're always trying to get your friends to understand how cool the right gadgets are but I always got the fact that I wouldn't teach them how to use these tools, rather the tools would adapt to them. That meant trimming the fat and that's what's been done. If you don't like that you're going to have to stick to old fashioned Windows Mobile or move to Android because returning to what the people in this petition want would be a big step backwards.
[Windows Phone 7 General] coleone13:
signed

love my hd7 for some of its hardware features, but am contemplating going back to android due to MS failing on the os this early. but signing this, i REALLY hope it helps to persuade them to step up and fix it. :confused:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Zedox:
Really...was this really necessary. *sigh*
[Windows Phone 7 General] MrKaon:
are you defending iphone or WM7 :confused:

oops I forgot both are the same thing, :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
This is one of the most accurate and honest posts on this forum. I honestly see a lot of nonsense with this release going on within these forums, to be honest.

Ignorant posts like this will slightly hinder WP7s growth here...its unfortunate too. I'm a huge fan of Windows Mobile, but I love where Microsoft is going. For years I've read all of you guys complain about how horribly slow Windows Mobile was, and how chefs needed to cook the lightest ROMs possible so you could use your phone. Or cook 10000 different variations so everybody was happy. Or provide ghetto rigs so the phone could last an entire day without a charge...you guys aren't ever happy. I've even watched many of you use Android as your daily OS on a WM device...and those of you are the ones complaining most...

Microsoft solved all our issues...without the need to cook a ROM...or flash. Because we can't SEE the files there's a problem? I don't need access, they provide you with over the air storage...and email capabilities...to allow that to destroy my interaction with a fantastic release would be foolish. I would hope all of you would open your eyes to the great qualities of WP7 rather than to bash its few shortcomings...
[Windows Phone 7 General] janemanno1:
Here users have voted what they want the most.

http://windowsphone7community.uservoice.com/forums/84435-general
[Windows Phone 7 General] f1restarter:
I think the proper title of this thread should be "WP7 is looking better than iPhone/android, let's do something about it to make it crappy like 6.1". You guys seriously need to move on. :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
+1, The only thing these negative threads will do is kill off WP7 by generating a great deal of pointless negative publicity. If you want to stay with a tweakable, hackable, customisable OS go buy an android phone, I have a Desire and can highly recommend it!
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmelo76:
Totally unnecessary, since we have people here who consistently and adult, are putting a list of bug's and this thread is totally unnecessary.

I'll just keep it, but closed.

The next that opens in this direction will be deleted without notice.
[HTC Excalibur] Kingissa:
Snaptu is one of the best free applications that lets you check weather, facebook, myspace, twitter, sports scores and much more. However, i have been trying to find one that is functional on the Excalibur but have failed. I would greatly appreciate it if somebody could find a way to make it function on the Excalibur.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rasj:
so i got this htc touch pro 2 monday... my brother put me on this site here.. did a hard spl got the latest mighty rom.. now theres so option for sending pictures mms.. only able to send through email.. would like to send mms.. thanks for any help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eras2r:
Ask this question in the Might ROM thread. Someone there should be able to help you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] InRBigness:
find the Arcsoft cab and install it. It will put MMS back onto your rom. You can then edit the file sizes to allow bigger pictures. You will have to put your providers info on it though.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iloveandroid:
Is there anyway to downgrade back to 1.5, if not can we work together and help to find a solution
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashertheplague:
man im in i want this downgraded soo bad..!
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iloveandroid:
Couldn't you just send the 2.1 rooted rom and apply it like we did with the leak
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] afoulke:
I answered your question on the other thread you posted. Please Please Please learn how to use the search feature for XDA. There is no downgrade to 1.5 the devs are working on it and you need to be patient they will post a new thread when they come up with a way to go back down to 1.5 from leaked 2.1. Please stop asking this question in threads it will be obvious when its available. I understand you want the Nexus keyboard and your looking for root please just be patient and when they are available the devs will make it very obvious. Thanks!
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sub-Standard:
Is there away to downgrade Android 2.x to 1.5 so that I can root?

..................What about now????????

Are we there yet?

Are we there yet?

Are we there yet?

What about now?..... Are we there yet?

How much longer?

:rolleyes:

Sorry... couldn't help myself. I'll shut up now. :p
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] afoulke:
I will turn this car around and we will all be back to 1.0! LOL :D
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
Downgrading made easy, by jcase.

Step 1

put phone on hard surface.

Step 2

smash with big rock.

Step 3

Go to http://www.ebay.com

Step 4

Buy slightly used 1.5 eris.

Step 5

clean up parts from step 2.

Step 6

Enjoy root.

Win?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] afoulke:
That was easy, my slightly used Eris will be here Monday.....
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sub-Standard:
For those to impatient to wait for downgrade to come, If you were to happen to have your phone lost or stolen, insurance claims are only $100.00.

Now on a completely separate thought, completely unrelated to the above statement, HTC Eris phones with unusable ESNs are selling for

$100.00 - $150.00 on eBay.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joey3002:
lmao... you crack up! :)
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sickbox:
lol damn i thought i came up with that idea!
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deseo:
bad toooo bad:(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freemanxp:
I am just dump an official using 'new ervius visual bepe's kitchen', what should I do now to remove the region protect ?

Thank's for your help!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MR.liang:
replace nk.exe
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topside:
maybe just patch the nk.exe ? Does it works?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topside:
It seems the kitchen will patch the the nk.exe automaticly. You needn't do it specially.
[Hero CDMA General] rukshmani:
Hello Moderators,

People are posting their roms here which are not doing what they are supposed to do, but the page where one dodwnloads the roms remains the same without any update on what is working and what is not.Can anything be done about it?
[Hero CDMA General] Tipharet:
lol maybe if they could tell what you were asking.

Edit: I get it.. Are you seriously *****ing bout devs who take there personal time to post ROMs but not always update their main page?
[Hero CDMA General] wtphoto:
I think he is talking about the WIKI pages and if that is the case then to the OP you need to understand how this works

1. a dev posts a rom they cooked in a new thread

2. it is up to us as a community to update the WIKI not the moderators

if the rom is a popular one then it is going to stay at the top of the treads deal with it.

edit: nope you are right Tipharet I read it worng. rukshmani you need to deal with it and read the treads that these roms have before you flash them anyways becuase if you dont then you end up asking questions that have been asked 200 times before. please stop complaing about these great people taking time from their lives and families to make our experience better.
[Hero CDMA General] troyboytn:
Well, just read through the posts and you will no what is working or not working. It really is as easy as that. ;)
[Hero CDMA General] obelisk79:
Updating the first post to a ROM release is the responsibility of the developer of that rom. Not the job of the moderators.

If you think a rom needs to have it's post updated, why don't you PM the developer yourself. If you were instead referring to the sticky-wiki for tracking roms, you aare as free to update/edit that as any one of us are.

Not, trying to sound rude, but it is difficult to understand what EXACTLY it is that you are asking for.
[Hero CDMA General] gomorrah:
This is what this about. He downloaded DarchLegend and couldnt get his app2sd to work. And then started this thread. Although its clearly working for someone else.:rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] wtphoto:
seriously I try not to flame people but apps2sd is a perk on a rom not a requirement! stop trying to get a moderator involved because you dont want to do the work little bit of work that might need to be done to get something to work that YOU want.

if I didnt think it would get me susspended I would pull a page from gbhils book and post a rediculiously inapropriate image to get this thread closed down.

edit: not directed at you gomorrah I forgot that what you quoted doesnt show when I quote you.
[Hero CDMA General] Visionikz03:
Developers cannot sit at their computers 24/7 watching to make sure every developer updates his OP timely... u have to realize two things. One these guys developing roms 99% of them have real world jobs and families which take 99% of their time. Two, this would take time away from the mods real job which is to warn and ban offenders of the forum rules. This is not part of a mod's day to day task. Now if a developer is posting bs roms that r bricking everyones' phones that have downloaded them then yes at that point a mod would have to get involved but that has never happened to my knowledge on this site. Sorry dude but just b/c everyone else on this forum has the same phone as u doesn't mean that it will accept new rom flashes/modifications the same as someone elses. Any slight variance is settings from urs to the next guys could plunder a rom flash attempt. Do ur homework before messing with ur phone. Tons of others have had no problems so obviously they did something right. Most of all every developer always puts " Not responsible for what happens to ur phone by flashing this software" It's completely ur risk.
[Hero CDMA General] Pyro8:
i see link is not being updated.. and other link is being updated.. two links active and same rom download pages.. Maybe, he clicked one of those that is not being updated and got confused.
[Hero CDMA General] Avalaunchmods:
man this whole cdma hero thread has gone downhill this week. one guy posting warez, another whining bout devs. at least theres no donation warz lol
[Hero CDMA General] RTessi:
another case of the "entitled victim"... where is the vomit smilie when you need one?

R
[Hero CDMA General] chococrazy:
Uh no you started a donation war :O.

Also in response to the person who needed a vomit smiley.

Here yah go
[Hero CDMA General] zippy-man:
All I gotta say is tuff ****, read buddy.

If you want something your way do it yourself and if you cant then again tuff **** take what you get.
[Hero CDMA General] Tipharet:
Yep and now theres another guy that just posted on how to get free service. What is going on here?

My theory still holds I think. People are so desperately wanting 2.1 ( not even really knowing why) and it seems to be making ppl irrational to say the least...lol

Yeah and I was hoping the op wasnt actually *****ing bout what I translated. You would assume that most people know not all devices and software run the same on 100% of devices.
[Hero CDMA General] RTessi:
who knows... to a certain degree forums should be a priveledge not a right...

too bad we couldn't create a "pay for membership" forum where all the members control the other members, threads, guidelines, etc.

a self-moderating group of like minded people that understand the guidelines and follow them. if you could be banned with no refund, i'm sure people would be ready to follow rules, not give opinions where none were asked for or any of the other atrocities i've seen on this site since i joined just a few weeks ago.

i sometimes wonder why there aren't "etiquette moderators" that enforce common forum etiquette. i find that too often one wrong post can start 6 pages of useless banter eventually rendering the thread a personal vendetta against one person, vs the etiquette moderator simply dealing with the issue and not allowing good threads to go to thread hell.

i can dream right?

R
[Hero CDMA General] KBizzle:
My opinion, Android is just so seemless and appealing to everyone, not just tweakers. So what we are seeing is more folks that havent been in forums like these and understand what is right and wrong. When little petey goes to the sprint store and sees the TP2 with winmo, plays with it and says "This is just to hard for me." he then picks up the Hero and says "Wow, this phone is more asthetically appealing and much easier to use.". Hence why we now have to deal with a much lower intellect of members because quite simply, Android is a great OS.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Oh my God, I can't even believe this thread exists. I'm moving to AndroidCentral. :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kloko15:
I was attempting to mod my G1 yesterday (which was a terrible idea because i have no idea how to do it properly) and i ended up changing some format from (fat) to (fat32). Im not sure what it did and i dont remember how i did it. Now the only screen that shows up is a striped multicolored screen. I cant get past it and have tried everything i have heard to do. (Hold the power key and home key) etc..

Please Help!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borodin1:
The best thing would be for you to stay as far away from smart phones as possible.

However, if you want to bring your phone back to life download DREAIMG.nbh from here (assuming you have US G1), format your sdcard to fat32 using a card reader, put the file on the root of the card and start your phone with power+camera button. Phone will restore itself. Do NOT attempt to do any further modding until you understand what you're doing.

This site would be a great place to start.