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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slapshot30:
That kind of processor does sound pretty sweet. And the capacitive touch screen. But no hardware keyboard... I don't know what I'd do without it, but thats just me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] osrix:
Definately but it would have to have the hard keyboard, otherwise it wouldn't be a touch pro would it?! :eek:

totally agree with dwboston ...I'm with 6.5.# with better specs Not sold on windows 7 at all so far.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LocDogg:
It would be a Touch or HD...The main reason I would buy TP would be because of the hard keyboard...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LJKelley:
I'll wait for the first Windows 7 Phone that includes a decent keyboard. Hopefully HTC, but would consider SonyEricsson as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] richc3:
I won't be touching a Windows phone ever again after this.

TP2 was a major disappointment for me because of OS, underpowered processor, and (nit picky) the fact that Telus (Canada) would release the version that does not work on their HSPA network.

I'll be swapping to Palm / webOS -- ideally the newer model that will be launched around the same time with a larger display.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] CB620:
Do You Think Screen Shots Will be Released Soon?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MCbrian:
I think it would depend on what those specs are... and have a hw-keyboard, of course. I wouldn't buy if all I knew was the name "TP3".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Seriously doubt if I'll be having anything WM again unless something spectacular happens. I like the TP2 hardware but WM really disappoints. I read somewhere that the HD2 is a wonderful piece of hardware crippled by it's software and that's how I feel about the TP2.

Android for me next I think
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
theres no pictures or specs or anything of the touch pro 3. theres no reason we really need wm7, it doesnt seem to bring much besides a new interface. ill still have my touch pro 2. and if i still have it while the current version of windows mobile dies, i hope android will be as close to 100% running on it as possible. i hope i dont get pushed into buying an iphone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] corepda:
I would go for HD2+keyboard as TP3..thats my simple & easiest solution for HTC..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stormrain:
Same here. Actually that would be my only replacement for my tp2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] the0ne:
windows phone 7 4 me
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] palah:
The only negs have found with TP2 is

1. Weight ... but it gives a solid feel

2. Faster processor

3. The zoom bar is quite useless - either make screen bigger/create a 'dpad'/make device smaller (not screen)

Have installed ZoomBarPlus today so will see if use the zoom bar more

Other than that very happy with TP2 ...nothing else on maket that would even consider at the moment
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] blanket:
i don't see how the tp3 would be the 'upgrade' from tp2, or even tp1 if it's the htc tera as rumoured and specs are indeed as leaked

in fact, it seems like a downgrade and a complete disgrace to the 'touch pro' line (although it only consists of 2 phones, 4 if u include the tytn and tytn 2)

wqvga and a 600mhz qualcomm cpu which STILL doesn't have proper drivers? oh c'mon HTC. our patience is running out
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xmoo:
Isn't this old news? Also HTC Thropy is cming this summer. The Debug ROMS are already out on the web....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MCbrian:
That's Trophy, I assume...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] akashastrega:
Only if the TP3 has a processor on crack

I gotta agree that unless the physical specs are much better...such as a processor on steroids, I am quite happy with my TP2.

I like the solid feel, I absolutely LOVE the physical keyboard...and I am perfectly happy with 6.1 as it is super stable (even though 6.5 is prettier). My only complaint is the processor...I want a processor on crack!! Give me that while keeping all the faboo things about the TP2 and I may consider getting a TP3...otherwise, no way!!

As for WinMo7...not impressed with the info out there about it...sounds like a step backwards!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Tera

I don´t think we will see any Touch Pro 3 in 2010, perhaps in 2011...

As for Tera, I don´t think it´s an upgrade for Rhodium
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BucDan:
tp3 gotta have the keyboard, touch screen only gets old pretty fast. i just got my tilt 2 not too long ago, this past tuesday specifically; it sucks to hear of the tp3 coming out in the summer with a faster proc and slimmer, but o well you know.

if i had the ability to trade up like from apple has done, then i just might do it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xmoo:
Yes, the new HTC Snap
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rich2thad:
well the TERA looks more like a cheaper version of the TP2 just a tad bit faster? i duno i love the idea of a TP3 cuz as we all agree a hard keyboard is half of the reason why we wanted the phone.. as for right now the only other phone i dare get is a HD2 other than that i can wait... MOS DEF could care less about WM7 windows always takes about 2 years b4 sumthin new they release works correctly
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slimslim:
I think the new TP3 will have at lest a 3.6” screen. Of course, same layout keyboard that made the TP2 famous for, and maybe a little slimmer. They’ll get rid of the Qualcrap they used for 3 generations, put a decent CPU, more RAM and a better camera. We may not see amoled/ capacitive/ moultitouch and WinMo 7, but hope for a more customizable TouchFlo interface…
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] F2504x4:
Side by side specs of the TP3 vs the TP2 When HTC become smart!

http://marcustavares.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/htc-touch-pro-3-a-dream-pda/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
seems like alot of those specs are made up on the touch pro 3's side.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] IceCreaMan:
if the memory/proc specs were better on the TP2 i would upgrade from a tilt. The serious lacking of internal memory in the TP2 is the same issue i'm facing with my Tilt... at the moment i'd rather stick it out with android on my tilt and wait until the HD3 comes out which is pretty much a very small netbook lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] secretasianman:
I'll wait for Windows Phone 7... or an Android phone with the Touch Pro2's awesome keyboard.

I recently came back to Windows Mobile after spending almost a year with the iPhones and I have to say the sluggishness and lockups in Windows Mobile 6.5 is still annoying. The advantages still outweigh the negatives of Apple's walled garden though.

I for one will withhold judgment of Windows Phone 7 until the final release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ronh:
Also my thoughts, it's said that the TP3 will be slimmer and a bit smaller.

These specs want to tell us they are both completely the same... :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chrisrj28:
I agree that the TP2 is underpowered and more could have been done with it but it was still a nice step up from the TP/Fuze. I would like to keep this keyboard which is the best out right now and maybe go with the 3.8" screen from the HD & Nexus 1. Maybe not Capacative or anything to keep cost down but a full size resistive.

If you look at the TP2 there is mor room to stretch the screen, a little longer and a little wider would be perfect. And I agree about the underused zoom bar, it's almost a waste of space there.

So yeah, 3.8" screen, 600-1024mhz processor (snapdragon if we are lucky enough), 1gb internal storage (wishful thinking), 488mb RAM, 5mp Camera with dual LED flash, and keep the same awesome keyboard, that would be a worthy successor and competitor for the upcoming super-phones
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] domineus:
give me a capacitive touch screen with 3 buttons and wp7 capable and I'm all over that!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jdotbakes:
I constantly think about dropping my touch pro2, but this darn keyboard is the best in the business IMO. I couldn't give it up unless something can show me at least a comparable keyboard. Also, with Android steadily making its way, it'll be the best phone for me. Anyone got a suggestion as to what can get this touch pro2 outta my hands?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chrisrj28:
Ebay or Craigslist
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Fuze1969A:
After looking at the specs in post 20, I do not have any desire to buy a TP3 over a TP2. I am surprised HTC is not looking at a Pro version of the Leo. (I hope it is in the works) Now a Leo Pro with Windows 7 is something I feel is a great business phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
That pretty well sums it up for me too. The ONLY thing that gives me pause about my TP2 is the unfortunate lack of snapdragon. If it had WP7 on it (and MS is in fact doing with it what they appear to be doing -- locking it down), I'd just as soon wait for a decent android handset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stormrain:
For me it would be at least 4 inches screen and of course the hardware keyboard. I could do with a faster processor, but if the above needs were satisfied i could do with the qualcom easily. Actually i was flirting the Leo, but decided that my hardware keyboard is irreplaceable so i'm sticking with my rhodium unless another model comes into play.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] solarboy:
stylus?

I need a phone with a stylus so I can take down handwritten notes and site drawings/measurements. With the apparant death of WM6x I'm not sure what I'll buy next. The Tera looks like a step down as I need a decent sized screen and Android/iphones/WM7 dont have styluses nor decent handwritten notes apps (like phatnotes). I know thousands of engineers that use the styluses for various applications. Who's going to cater to us now with everyone trying to make a multitouch zoom twittering app store toting fashion phone. Leo with hard keyboard and a stylus for me plz.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sanjsrik:
This is a very interesting post. It started with a speculation but nothing has been confirmed by anyone. Is the TP3 really due out this year or next? What are the real specs? If that is the memory and processor, really not a major reason to see this as an "upgrade" Some photos show it with a keyboard, some without and very slim. So, which is it? Very curious.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
You were expecting official confirmation so soon?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gplock:
it sounds good

i lik the 3.5 bas well as every1 else. i cant wait to see it hands on..... would we b able to run tp2 tweaks n ROMS? prob prob not ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sanjsrik:
why yes, yes I was

:-)

After all, we're movers and shakers, they SHOULD confirm or deny anything we ask...

Yeah, not buying that either.

Okay, moving along now, nothing to see here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
That's a policy I can get behind. :D I can imagine though why HTC might be reluctant to adopt it. :( They actually want to have some time available for building phones... (and fighting frivilous lawsuits from certain fruit-related companies) :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chrisrj28:
I looked at that comparison of TP2 to TP3 and it's pretty far fetched for the most part. I mean some features are possible, 3.8 inch screen with multi-touch maybe, snapdragon, possibly once it's more common and the high end dual core scorpion processors are out. But 12.1mp camera, seriously? 32gb internal storage? Right, the first Touch Diamond had 4gb internal but no expandable storage. I would be happy with 1 gb and sdcard storage.

Oh well like said this is all speculation, I remember the same thing when the TP2 was still in early development
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
Ah yes, year old articles are always hilarious for specs.

My next phone will have at least everything the TP2 has plus a Snapdragon 8X72 series (dual core @ 1.5ghz/core), 1 GB of RAM, and preferably a goodly amount of on-board storage. I'm hoping for a resistive screen too actually, I can't stand using my fat fingers to hit small buttons on a capacitive screen. Should be capable of running WM7S, although at this point a downgrade to WinMo6.5 would be nice.

Whichever company can provide this first gets my dollar, hopefully that's HTC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fceeviper:
Any new news on this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sirphunkee:
um, no ma'am, nothing yet...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] CB620:
http://www.i4u.com/article31851.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] CB620:
Htc touch pro 3 aka htc tera

Take A Look.:D:D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] CB620:
Hopefully The Specs Are Not Finalized Because That To Me Really Is Not A Upgrade. Smaller Screen Only 600MHZ, Why Not 1GHZ, And Definitely Should Have More Ram And Be WinMo7. But Hey Maybe Thats Asking For Too Much.............NOT!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
All the news articles eventually link back here. You might as well cite xda-devs as your authority. And no, the Tera is not likely to be the TP3. It's more of a TP2 mini. Anything is possible, but that would an awfully odd direction to take the Touch Pro line.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] CB620:
+1 I Agree. I Want To See Where The TP3 Will Take Us.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AlkamistStar:
Can't wait

I would love to know what the specs sheet is. As for which one i'm more anticipated for though...it'd have to be Windows 7.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fceeviper:
Ma'ma??? :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] udgn:
TP3 Must have Keyboard

Must have keyboard, otherwise will be useless as a business phone, and they can make it faster and more powerful, without affecting the PRICE, ask how much they get from each unit, and you will feel mocked, abused, etc. so they can do way better for what we are paying, in ex they can put AMOLED etc. People say that HTC want it to make it compete with the Iphone, but I doubt it, because it is evident that their devices are meant for specific target customers.

My wife have an I-phone and I have a Fuze and I accessed the same tv webpage "NBC" to watch Heroes, and the video looked awesome in the I-phone and terrible in the Fuze.

One hope that HTC once and for all improve the Touch Pro 3 to be the perfect device we want.

This is the reason I never got to change my Fuze to Touch Pro2, it would be more of a down grade than an upgrade.

Feel completely dissapointed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SUCCESSOR:
Honestly anyone thinking the Tera is a TP3 is a dumb redneck. I bet you that the Tera will go out as a Touch Pro Mini/Tilt Mini. And it's specs are perfect for that.

The Touch Pro3 needs to have a 4inch display capacitive(w/stylus), snapdragon(fingers crossed for 1.3 or 1.5dualcore), 1 gig RAM(really why not 1gig?), 1gig ROM, and the Rhodium Keyboard

That is all i need. Dont care about the camera. They can give it the Rhodium ke6board just they way it is. If they improve the keyboard--great! if they mess it up I'll wait for a device that gets it right. The only 2 reasons i never considered a Droid was the crappy keyboard and Verizon(too pricey).

I wont buy another Windows Mobile device. My Rhodium does me just fine for that. The only thing i see getting me into Windows Phone 7 is a decent Touch Pro3. If it doesnt ship with WP7 I'm going to Android next.

I dont see any hurry for the Touch Pro3. Im excited but it needs to lauch with WP7. I might be cynical but Summer release sounds to me like HTC might have flopped it. I want a monster device that eats babies, plots world domination, makes Leos and Supersonics cry. Is that too much to ask?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WaltA:
I agree 100%. Well said.

If I wanted an iPhone-like interface, I would get an iPhone or one of the many already existing iPhone wannabees. I like having a Windows-like interface, and very open OS.

Hopefully, the TP3 will be out before WM7, and we will not have to deal with WM7.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LocDogg:
Beautifully said...Got tears in my eyes :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SUCCESSOR:
I guess the good thing about Touch Pro3 releasing with WinMo with a definite upgrade to WP7 on the way would be options. from what i understand its just about impossible to put WinMo on a device it doesnt already come on. Since WP7 is not skinnable a person could choose not to upgrade and keep the customizable benefits of WinMo with all the issues and none of the lockdown. And running WinMo would make it possible to port Android since the hope for an HTC Android device with a slide out full qwerty and high end specs is looking slim or atleast very delayed.

But TP3 releasing with WinMo mean it will probably get a WP7 upgrade something like 6 months after WP7 release. Thats what 9 months+? So you get a device that is old before it gets the OS it was designed for.

And are you ever really guaranteed an upgrade?

So on one hand we're looking at possibly the most versitile high end device(can run 3 entirely different OSs) that might ever be released or another disappointment with delayed upgrades or none.

I really don't know what I'm talking about just my idea of what to expect. Feel free to shoot holes in it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] 1999TL:
If they just added in more ram and a snapdragon processor, I'd be happy. Any other improvements would be icing on the cake.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SUCCESSOR:
oh and add in that Hummingbird GPU that the Galaxy S has. 90 million triangle per second. Yeah that's how daddy wants it..

EDIT: I made an error. The Hummingbird is a Cortex-A8 (1ghz i believe) CPU with a PowerVR SGX540 GPU (90 million triangles per second).

I want that instead of the Snapdragon. Snapdragon GPU does 22million triangles per second. Though a Youtube video led me to belive the 1.5dualcore Snapdragon would have a more powerful GPU.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] steve7702:
More power ram and a flash would be good for me. Got HD2 at moment and miss the HW keyboard of Touch Pro
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Barneyabz:
MUCH faster processor, more rom and ram, 5mp camera with Flash (a must for me) and win 7. Also please keep keyboard exactly the same as the current TP2 as its great.

The new TP3 must be snappy, no more hanging around watching winmo on a go slow.

cheers

Barney
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] photona:
Yes, I would buy a TP3 if it is equipped with a faster processor than the TP2. The TP2 is the best phone I ever had and if it could run things a little bit faster (Sense 2.5) it almost would be perfect.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
I wouldn´t have too much expectations for a TP3 on 2010...(hope I´m wrong)

I presume 2nd qt 2011 will be the date for an upgrade of one of the best hardware keyboard devices!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jr_enver:
Upgrade to TP2!!!!!! lol

I'm sticking to my TP2, love it only 3 main issues,

No 3.5 mm

No tab button

Lame processor.

TP3 if this is a true spec, seems a downgrade if anything.

smaller screen, same ram/rom, 4 row keyboad.....

TP3, more like HTC Vista Home.....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Monrad:
Touch Pro 3 should be: TP2 + 1Ghz Snapdragon CPU + Capacitive Touch Screen + 5MP camera + Flash.

That'd make most TP2 users happy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BioTecK:
Yeah, sounds good! ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fil:
Sounds good to me, tho you forgot the 3.5mm jack port ;)

and maybe sqeeze a few more mah's into the battery area
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Untouchab1e:
And please throw Android on it!

Windows Mobile is dying if not already dead while the Android world is still yet to see an awesome qwerty device (The Motorola Droid/Milestone does not have a decent keyboard, and is pretty much useless).

A Touch Pro 2-ish device with Android, Snapdragon, etc would be the perfect phone for me!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SUCCESSOR:
HTC Vision.

Any news, rumors, myths about the Touch Pro3? Or was this "inside info" really just about the Tera?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] spacegravity4me:
I +50 this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JorgeSea:
I think that the release date is mere speculation right now and Touch Pro3 might actually come out with Windows Phone 7, let’s hope for some official confirmation from HTC on that.

But, I prefer TP3 with wm 6.5!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] deuce22:
So...

It must not have been inside information, must have just been all talk. I've been waiting for a glimpse of the TP3 but I'm starting to lose faith it will come out by August.

Also I'm tired of people thinking the new Touch Pro is the Leo...God I hope it's not the Tera.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] grymcent:
It seems that IF a TP3 comes out before WM7, then HTC policy would make it and Android phone.

Just so long as it has a hardware keyboard, better processor, etc as mentioned many times, I'd change to it, especially if Android, would wonder if it was WM6.5.x would it be upgradeable to WM7....

I'd also worry if HTC tried to call the US myTouch Slide the TP3.... although I can't see HTC trying to sneak that one past their fans
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
Been looking forward to that one, and I hope the leaked images are wrong in re: the keyboard. 4 lines and tons of wasted space = :( It's close, but it's just far enough away that I won't consider it.

I'd rather have an antiquated processor and a dead end OS than a waste of a keyboard and no tilt.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] blaiz123:
ur an idiot...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Vegas P11:
hahahaha, you win! I agree totally. Someone always has a "friend" that gave em insider info.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
Excellent debating style.:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BeEazy10:
But Think about this... look at the HD2 which run wm6.5.3 with more Ram then the touch pro2 the Os cripple the device. The next phone that touches window mobile os going to need a faster CPU(Something better then a snap) to fly threw the os and even more ram to complete task faster/multi task.

I held a cripple HD2 in my hand... it started to break my heart :(.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BeEazy10:
HTC Tera is HTC Touch pro 3

The Tera is believed to have a 3.0-inch WQVGA resistive touchscreen, dualband HSPA, WiFi b/g, Bluetooth 2.1+EDR and GPS/aGPS. It’s based on Qualcomm’s 600MHz MSM7227 chipset with 512MB of ROM and 256MB of RAM, and measures 115 x 53 x 15.5 mm – more compact than the Pro2 it presumably replaces, though with a smaller display as a compromise.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] samterry1234:
lol, thats exactly what I want.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
http://android.mobilitydigest.com/new-htc-android-slider-for-verizon-clocks-in-at-1-2ghz/ anybody seen this monstrosity? the design needs some tweaks but its a 4" screen and 1.2ghz proc. the keys on the keyboard definitely need to fill in more and if they can make it look more droid incredible/aria -ish itll be alot more like a touch pro 3.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
That one will also be a world phone, carrying GSM bands for VZW's business travelers, just like my VZW TP2. It looks more like a spiritual successor than anything else does.