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[HD2 General] cgrec92:
ive just realised something, i think it has to do with the t-mobile proxy! and apps on the phone requiring internet access!

for example everytime i flash my phone and use windows marketplace, myphone, live etc the connection dropouts are ridiculously frequent and i can barely get anything done, and then when i set up my e-mail clients, as some of you may know, you have to remove your proxy in order for it to gain access.

in fact ive never had an internet dropout when downloading only email, and to further back this up, i just have re-flashed my phone, using the connection setup for t-mobile, only this time instantly disabling the proxy. to my surprise, there were no issues using myphone, marketplace, live, etc

now that i think about it, the connection dropouts, if the proxy has been disabled in connections, is only with opera. i read somewhere that there is a setting that opera overrides this and uses a proxy and i have seen this setting somewhere in the past

just a little update for everyone having problems, i think we might be getting there!

hopes up!

[UPDATE] so far can confirm, without using opera, only using email, weather, stocks, time, marketplace, myphone, have had a stable HSDPA connection

now i really think there's something in opera causing the drop-outs

I believe the ROM i have installed is also contributing to this

I have just installed the official HTC 1.66 hotfix which updates the official 1.66 radio and protocol version

at the moment i am very impressed! nothing cut out and yet fast, smooth, surprisingly beautiful

The ROM is not a .nbh, it is an exe, it does not change the SPL and installs the radio itself

make sure to do a MTTY before hand to keep the ROM as flawless as possible
[HD2 General] scottydog90:
i'm so glad i found this thread...quite a few intelligent people trying to solve a problem that is very similar to my own.

my phone seems to float between G H and 3G

my problem is if the signal says G or H then my works software works fine.

if it displays 3G it seems to drop/freeze the connection and the software doesn't work until phone finds H or G again ????

ideally i need it to stay on H

any suggestions on how i can achieve this?

i use miri 6.5.x v9.0

radio 2.07.50.27_2
[HD2 General] pa49:
Leo Lite 3 WWE dated 01.03.2010
[HD2 General] pa49:
I have no idea why T-mobile insist on setting their proxy server as the problems it causes goes way back in time and you would have thought they would have learnt by now.
[HD2 General] MidnightDraven:
And yet (and ive mentioned this in a few threads about it) I have NO problems with proxy ticked on T-mobile UK.
[HD2 General] gargon01:
Guys,

Without trying to sound patronising, you do realise that when you flash a new radio, you should give it a good few days to 'settle in' before you will see the true benefits of it right? It's not just a case of installing it and immediately seeing the effects. Give it a few days even a week or so, some battery cycles and, in general, you should be able to work out which one is best. I'm sure you all know this but just in case.....
[HD2 General] onisuk:
what a ridiculous comment ! this is a software/hardware issue why on earth would you need to let it "settle in" ??? what facts are you basing this stupid comment on exactly...............??? :confused:
[HD2 General] pa49:
I do know what you mean and I think we all tend to give some sort of organic identity to our devices, but, in all honesty. they all obey the laws of physics (whether known or yet to be discovered!) and as such they can't act on their own desires or whims.

Whatever they do they do it as a result of cause and whatever happens as a result is the effect we see.

If you change your tyres on your car you will see an effect and it will be different when they had "bedded in" so your point has merit, however, that change will come from the total package having the influence on the feed back from the change and it will be PERCEIVED by the user very much like how we perceive the way our phones work.

That means a lot of varying factors having an influence on the overall perception and that brings the whole discussion back to my very point.

If you change a radio ROM (or anything else for that matter) it will have an imediate effect and this will be one of notice or not depending on all the factors involved and even our state of perception at that moment.

It all depends on how clinical our perception is.

Or on how scientific our approach.

My approach has always been to start from as much of a known baseline as possible (and I have now come to the conclusion that its good practise to start from as simple as possible) and carefully assess these sometimes small changes and inject the feedback into the problem loop.

So I start with as clean a phone as possible. That means the cleanest of ROMs (which is why I use LeoLite), always a fresh flash, never install apps to test and go through a controlled routine of trying the radios.

I don't enable the fancy eyecandy functions until the time comes to try them! and that is always well after all other more basic and to me more important functions have been put to the test.

I have done this since my earliest HTC phones and along the way used the same approach with Nokia phone I have owned.

The results overall have giving me stable, full function devices (I mean without tiurning off stuff that I bought the phone for in the first place) and I have been able to maximise the usefullness and battery capacity into the bargain and I have a suspicion that we all want that.

May be we need a thread of our collective thoughts about all this as a whole?

The ZEN of phone ownership.
[HD2 General] onisuk:
no it has no merit, it is based on hardware (the phones antenna) which does not change and software which is used to interpret the signal received by the antenna and how to deal with it. so there is no "bedding in" like with tyres

it will either be better the moment you flash or it will not change FACT ! :eek:
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
hi again pa49, thanks again for your comment, we all do appreciate it!

i see what you mean, but instead of leolite, for my fresh flash i installed official 1.66 (the hotfixed one which comes with a new radio) from htc

this has still not fixed my problem

should i just install every radio there is on the radio rom thread until one works?

thanks
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
ok i just got off the phone with t-mobile for the 4th time

turns out that hsdpa hasnt been enabled, basically what everyone on other forums have said

in order to activate hsdpa you have to update to their web'n'walk plus for an extra £5 and this will activate hsdpa on the phone

GUTTED
[HD2 General] hollinshead:
I'm not on web'n'walk plus and my HSDPA works?

I just have the unlimited internet booster.
[HD2 General] MidnightDraven:
Same here, Im on standard Web n walk, and my HSDPA works too.

T-mobile are lying to get more money out of you.
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
really? you have to be kidding

but i read that hsdpa only being on web'n'walk plus was a recent even since a year and a bit?

how long have you had your contract with t-mobile for?

if you've just recently started out a contract (few months) id really appreciate it if you could post your settings? apn, username and password, proxy, all advanced settings

if they work for you and dont work for me then i dont have a clue

thanks whoever does that ill really appreciate it!
[HD2 General] hollinshead:
I'm using the 1.66 WWE HTC ROM, and the settings came from that.

I moved back from O2 to T-Mobile, contract was started on 18th February.
[HD2 General] DORMIU:
I'm not so sure this explanation by T-Mobile has any merit.

I am on 3 Denmark with a plan that offers HSDPA. I used it normally on all my previous phones. As stated in earlier posts, with HD2 my connection comes and goes. If the phone cannot lock the H signal, then data connection is dropped for good, forcing me to manually re-enable it.

Anyway, I've flashed Artemis 5.5 ROM and my connection has been a stable 3G ever since (no 3.5G though). My radio is still stock 2.06.51.07.

Still pissed about no HSDPA :mad:
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
thats exactly what im using

so is it just my t-mobile account or is it just my phone?
[HD2 General] hollinshead:
I really couldn't say, do you know anyone else with a HD2 who also uses T-Mobile?

You could try swapping SIMs with them, and see if it works.

Mine switches from 3G to H each time the data connection is used. No connection errors, it just works.

I flashed mine with WWE as soon as I turned it on and saw that gay T-Mobile logo!
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
lol!

so youre not using web'n'walk plus?

and youve only just recently started a contract with tmob?

could you go to settings -> all settings -> connections

could you perhaps post me the settings of your connection including proxy, apn, etc? or did you use the connection setup for tmob?

if you used the connection setup, could you go to settings -> all settings -> connections -> advanced network and post me what you have there?

thanks in advance
[HD2 General] hollinshead:
I used the connection setup from HTC, I don't have web'n'walk plus or whatever.

From Advanced Network I have:
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
thats what i thought, those are the exact settings i have

i have just gotten off the phone with tech support for the 5th time

he looked at my account for a bit and then came back describing the exact problem i have: i can connect for a bit but then it cuts out completely

he said it is a problem with the phone and that i have to take it to a tmobile shop to get looked at

i think its time for a tmob uk 1.43 sdcard flash :(:(:(
[HD2 General] MidnightDraven:
My contracts due up in June, after 18 months, so its not new.

Standard "unlimited internet" (web n walk) with my Flext contract.

Proxy settings are:

checked

checked

server: 149.254.201.132

advanced:

http: 149.254.201.132:8080

socks: 149.254.211.10:1080

tapping on socks its set to socks 4

And i have no problems with HSDPA or proxy.
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
guys, I never wanted to say this, but flashing stock t-mobile ROM from the sdcard has fixed my problem, the software is full of bugs but the internet is flawless.

will keep you posted if it continues, a tmob rom update is due soon anyway, if that's the case I know what I'm getting..
[HD2 General] hollinshead:
It must be a software issue then?

Out of intrest, how did you flash the HTC ROM?

I have done mine with a gold card and had no issues.
[HD2 General] pa49:
That is what I did!
[HD2 General] pa49:
Can only see this a T-mobile standard reply as if you go and get a payg sim or a new contract it's enabled from the outset so why would it be disabled in your case?
[HD2 General] pa49:
I've had HSDPA with T-mobile for over three years starting on a Nokia N95 March 2007.

I would insist on escalating your problem and talk to a higher authority and rattle some swords as it sounds like the run around!
[HD2 General] pa49:
The ROM radio is software and interacts with the OS on quite a few levels. The tyre bit was an analogy not an example.

You are right about the radio having an immediate effect, but, I said that a few posts back.

Do pay attention!
[HD2 General] pa49:
And stock ROM will have stock T-mobile radio.

Get a copy and keep it and use it where you can for any future ROM flash.

I'm really glad you got HSDPA.
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
ok well some good news and some bad news

the good news is that the internet is da bomb on the browser now

i dont know if its because its using web'n'walk now instead of opera? i dont know..

but the problem now is that apps like myphone, windows live, and marketplace dont work, at best they connect for a minute and then disconnect

it seems the problem has switched around

to summarize

internet on web'n'walk is fine

email clients, and apps are not

btw my current connection is preinstalled (tmobile) but i checked and there is no proxy

any advice?
[HD2 General] hollinshead:
Try installing the WWE rom using a gold card and see if that fixes your issues?
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
i have installed the WWE tmob stock rom with the goldcard method
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
nope its gone

it was working well but not anymore

web'n'walk dropping connection now

what can ya do

i guess ill send it off for repair

not impressed at all
[HD2 General] skoop99:
HSDPA works fine for me... It ditches connection occasionally, but hey, sh!t happens... T-Mobile tech support are pretty useless...
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
yeah but skoop, apparently the fact that our phones drop the connection is because theres an actual problem with the hardware of our phones

im sending mine off tomorrow for repair, already restored tmobile stock
[HD2 General] gargon01:
I'm basing my 'stupid' comment on actually testing a number of different radios and seeing the benefits of allowing time for them to take full effect. Common consensus within the forum indicates that my suggestion is not crazy and I'm pretty sure that if you were to ask in the radio forum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611787

if what I'm saying has any bearing, you'd probably find that I'm talking sense.

Thanks
[HD2 General] Hojlind:
The tech support said that he had the same problem himself, and that it was a problem that existed on all phones, and all we could do was to wait until HTC brought an update that would fix it... This got to be bull****, as a lot of people have no problems what so ever. I was never offered a replacement of my phone, but then again I never demanded it either (I don't feel like having to argue with them as they have some of the worst customer service I have yet to encounter). As long as the one I have now works with the settings I posted earlier I'm happy :)
[HD2 General] Hojlind:
Good luck ;) But I am pretty sure that all you will get is a message from the repairman, saying that there was nothing wrong, and that they have just updated the rom ;) That happened for me the first time I send mine in. The second time they did nothing at all, what happened was that my phone was sent back and forth :(
[HD2 General] DORMIU:
Goddamnit HSDPA connection! :mad:

I've tried different settings, ROMs (stock and custom) and radios, but nothing seems to fix the HSDPA disconnect issue. Actually after installing a new ROM the connection seems stable for a day or so. When I'm all relieved that the problem is gone, BANG!, here it comes again. Let me stress that I live in an area with very strong 3G signal, all my other phones always managed to lock HSDPA whenever needed.

My phone company, 3 Denmark, suggested I return my device so they can check it, but I'll wait until cgrec92 comes back with feedback from his experience with TMOUK's technical service.

Here's one thing I don't understand: if for some reason my phone cannot connect to HSDPA, then shouldn't it automatically attempt to connect to the next best (fastest) signal available such as regular 3G, EDGE, etc etc? In my case, it's either HSDPA or nothing!

:confused:
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
hi DORMIU

just to let you all know I am keeping my eyes on this forum and I have sent my phone off 2 days ago

i have been given a replacement phone for the time being and have been guaranteed i will receive my phone back within a 2 week period, not bad actually

will let you all know how it goes!

EDIT: btw has anyone here tested the new radio 2.09 to see if it makes any difference? i would but can't right now..

here is the link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=646755
[HD2 General] DORMIU:
Here's a weird little thing I noticed:

when I go to Communication Manager, "Data Connection" shows as "Off", but in 1 or 2 seconds it automatically changes to "On" without me touching anything. What's even more strange is that this doesn't mean the connection is actually on, because I might go check my emails or use Opera, weather, Twitter and the device will fail to connect because no connection is available???

This forces me back to Comm Manager so I can manually disable and then re-enable Data Connection, re-establishing my HSDPA connection. For a while that is, until the device drops the connection again.

Anyone else also noticed this? :confused:
[HD2 General] michd2:
@ Dormiu; Yeah I noticed this to! Very weird.

I tested the 2.09 Radio, it worked fine the first 4 hours, even my Twitter synchronized untill after 4 hours my connection locked up, and my twitter never synchronized eversince...Thats probably the worst part. The connection locking up is quite ****ed up, but in my opinion that is not as bad as not synchronizing my twitter...(twitter will only synchronize via WIFI)
[HD2 General] DORMIU:
What a mistery...

After some internet reasearch, I found an old HD2 review that mentions the HSDPA problem:

The only really problem I’ve encountered so far with thе HD2 seems tο be related tο Data connectivity (mainly HSDPA). аnd Ít looks like I’m not thе only one suffering from this. tο put Ít simply, thе HD2 seems tο be having problems tο send data request when HSDPA Ís available Ín places where other phones don’t exhibit this problem (iPhone 3G аnd several other HTC devices аnd an LG KS20). thе problem seems tο be highly depended οn thе area yοu are Ín because Ín some places Ít works perfectly аnd also depended οn thе mobile operator. I’ve tried all thе Rom versions аnd thе problem Ís still there. What happens Ís thаt unless I have four bars thе phones request tο jump tο HSDPA Ís denied so I get server time-outs etc аnd have tο wait nearly 15secs tο try again. Strangely Ít can then work perfectly fοr а few minutes then Ít restarts. What’s even stranger Ís thаt when using thе phone as а modem hooked tο thе PC this problem Ís gone (in thе same location where I have problems)! One has tο wonder what Ís causing this behavior.

The original article can be found here (scroll down to the "connectivity" part):

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/12/18/htc-hd2-review-the-best-smartphone-ever/

I had not noticed this detail about the "four bars", will pay attention from now on to see if it makes sense.
[HD2 General] michd2:
Thats allways the case. You read all the reviews you can find and after a month or 3 having your new phone you find that review that should have warned you...
[HD2 General] kit0515:
hey... i had te same problem before. but then i switched the HSDPA/HSUPA setting from both to HSDPA only. Now i have almost full and stable HSDPA connection, once data connection is cut, it auto revert to 3G again. But the switch still takes around 8-12 seconds. But if i were to leave opera running, the switch takes less then 1 second. 1 problem is that the speed is slower, but then atleast i have a more stable connection.

Hope this helps.
[HD2 General] :
HSDPA in germany Oo

before i bought the HD2 i asked my provider (E-Plus) 2 times, whether HSDPA is available in my region. he said: YES

but wonder-oh-wonder: hsdpa: NO

if i have no active data connection, the HD2 shows the H above the singal strengh...

by activating the data connection, it switches to 3G, as some of you reported too...

after deactivation data-link, it stays on 3G-possible icon till i reset...

my HD2 got frozen one day, since then it was unable to be started, tomorrow i'll get it back and post what happend to HSDPA, because:

according to the service report my main platine was replaced due damage caused by the battery/high voltage...

lets hope the best!
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] motoyola:
Here's the scenario, before i used to use the blank kitchen available here in XDA for Titan, Touch, Diamond and Touch Pro, extract and compile it again with out any problems. How i do it is just by changing the txt file inside the tools folder and can make it work for different phones such as mentioned above. Now i tried using this to the snap i get an error after running the BuiltOS.exe i get an error of "External component has thrown an exception" am i doing something wrong or i am missing some tools? So i tried to continue using builtIt.bat the the actual RUU file was reduced. If you flash it to the actual phone, the phone is stuck at the start up.

I need your help guys thanks
[HD2 General] jclsm:
Hi,

Is it possible to reduce de volume step (1 bar each time instead of 3) ?

Thanks:confused:
[HD2 General] abmantis:
I would like this too!
[HD2 General] MusX:
same here, those steps are too big
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Anderdroid:
Enlighten me please... I want to edit the keymappings and define my own symbols and whatnot. I already found the init.etc/keymaps but how would i go about rebuilding the rootfs.img?

Thx.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
How are you accessing rootfs.img? If you simply mount it as a loopback device in Linux, I don't think you have to rebuild it. Thor_Asgard listed the necessary commands needed to mount rootfs.img, if you don't know how to mount it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Anderdroid:
How did I get into it? WinImg, or something like that. Looks like I gotta boot up some linux. HMM I could just use Rhobuntu to do it couldnt i? :P

Thanks for the link
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
Is it an "official" keymap update? Is it more complete or better than what is currently being used? Or even maybe a keyboard that has not been mapped at all yet? Would you like to put it in the main build, so that everyone else can use it? Contact babijoee or phhusson, they have access to update the main rootfs git!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Anderdroid:
Oh no I'd be doing this because my T Mobile TP2's ALT key doesn't work so I'd be swapping shift + letters for symbols instead of capital letters as well as including my own custom symbols like a < and > so i can text <3's to my girlfriend HAHA.

But yeah. It wouldn't be like an official thing, just tinker with which extra symbols i want on the keyboard such as < > { } [ ] | \
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Jekku:
Hi!

I would like to make keymap for Finnish layout (only difference are FN-key combinations really). I already found the mentioned files from rootfs.img, but have a few questions:

What's the difference between rhod100* and rhod210* files?

Only place I found relevant things to change, is rhod210_microp-keypad.kcm file; what do I have to do to get the changes in use when I put the modified file back in place and into my Touch Pro 2?

Do I need to name it something different after modifications?

I'd like to submit it to general use when I'm done, so if you could just help me with these, I'd really appreciate it!

EDIT:

Did you manage to create or modify files in the img file? If so, could you advise me how to do it?