yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Well, by that rationale, he should have left notifications out - the intrusive modal dialogs popping up on top of your active application certainly aren't delivering a good experience. And I seriously doubt that the reason why copy/paste was missing for years was that they couldn't figure out how to do it. I'd rather blame it on the "one button/64K/whatever is enough for everyone" IT arrogance. With regard to Flash - actually, nobody is asking Apple to do anything. Adobe does Flash, not Apple.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rorytmeadows:
http://hollywooddigital.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/apple-is-wrong/

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/topic.php?uid=113492765344092&topic=219

more links later, because it's time for work
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Well, the only element in HTML5 which is proprietary is canvas, and then it's subject to royalty-free licensing. Everything else is proposed public standard (a work in progress at this stage).

The "accusation" that WHATWG is "a group of individuals" is just ludicrous. Yes, it consists of representatives of browser vendors, just like W3C. The whole point is that browser makers develop standards they later on stick to, not a third-party company. Third parties can join W3C and take part in that development if they wish, however. Even you can submit proposed changes to the standards developed this way.

h.264 is a completely different story. The fuss is about whether animations, media playback and the like happen within the browser itself or a third party plugin. HTML5 is an attempt to get rid of the middle man here, which makes complete sense.

An example of poor HTML5 performance in Android is just a waste of bytes really, it doesn't prove anything. The fact of the matter is, it's up to the browser maker how fast and reliable it will be. With plugins they have no control over it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Spike15:
Are you kidding me?

Have you ever done ANY web design, at all?

It's bad enough that you have to develop for IE 5/6/7/8, Gecko, Presto, and Webkit (and possibly a plethora of mobile quirks), but now you want everything to be redeveloped HTML5 and Flash?

How about Steve Jobs stops being such a baby, and stops trying to tyrannically impose his viewpoints on his customers? He's a businessman, NOT an evangelist. It's not as though Flash on the iPhone would inconvenience him -- he wouldn't be developing it, Adobe would -- it would merely inconvenience his worldview...

...but that's not why people purportedly get into business...

...they get into business to get rich[er].
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
In fact I had. I did the entire website for my own consulting company. Are you a flash evengelist?
[Windows Phone 7 General] rorytmeadows:
Let him be. He's obviously in brainwashed bliss.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Spike15:
Just because I advocate common sense does not make me a "flash [sic] evengelist [sic]".
[Windows Phone 7 General] rorytmeadows:
Hallelujah, my friend. Hallelujah.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cerealfreak:
And seconded, whilst the iPad really opens the door for PC manufacturers I'll be waiting for proper tablets.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cellphoneuser:
iphone clone fail

the whole reason for us having windows and android on phones is so that we can enjoy a bit of freedom in our locked down world.

do you think i want a phone with a ui that looks identical to all the rest?

honestly, i use win phones and android phone for the ultimate reason which is so that i can modify it to me liking.

a phone that works like the iPhone is not what at least 90% of xda members want.

i want to be able to run any pgm including my own w/o having to upload it to a "app store" where it will need to be verified before i have permission to use my own program??

windows phones have all this until now of course...up to the minuscule point of c&p!!! and multitasking? even apple is using mtasking in their 4.0OS sure they acted like they invented mtasking but even a piece of **** apple phone has it.

so why would msft decide that it is a waste?

they are planning to implement it later on?? it should be there to being with.

I've been using ce 4.0 all the way to mobile2003 and wm6 in all of them they had mtasking c&p and pgms to my liking.

sure apple is faster or "sexier" but apple is for idiots who need "geniuses" to hook up a printer or transfer files. not to even get started on hw. do they know how to open up the computer?? cause thats all things which cause me to buy pc and unlocked hw. because not only is it more practical but i also don't have to worry about paying 10x more for a worse computer or phone.

not to mention apple phones have a VERY high sar.

so i would rather msft not steer their boat of supporters into the iceburg that is winmobile7
[Windows Phone 7 General] MooGoo:
^^ All very true.

I can easily open one of any number of task managers on WinMo to see a sorted list of applications chewing up CPU time.

There is no good reason why Microsoft cannot make a simple version of this that even the most brain dead iPhone user would comprehend.

Something like a notification that says "This POS software is burning away precious battery life that you could be using to check your Facebook account, do you want to kill it???". Then they could put a really big shiny YES button (scratch that, WP7 has no shiny) next to a a tiny little grey x so that the drooling idiot always makes the "right" choice and the rest of us still get to decide how our own phones run.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Coburn64:
Ditto. To death with Flash! *raises fist*

WP7 looks promising, let's hope MS doesn't f*ck it up. And then WP8 is total trash.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rorytmeadows:
Flash isn't going anywhere. And thankfully so. More and more is being used as many businesses have realized how pretty it is!

Yay for Adobe!!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] shaundalglish:
True, Flash is not going anywhere and this is good.

Flash for video makes little sense, but for lots of other stuff, Flash is useful and good (and there's no alternatives).

Here's an Android Developers Blog post that explains how multitasking works on Android: Multitasking the Android Way

Essentially it works the same as in Windows Mobile (with the difference that Android seems to handle multitasking better, thus running much more stable than Windows Mobile):

But what's important, it chooses 'wisely' which processes to kill, instead of simply killing the 'oldest' ones. This ensures that applications that the user wants to be running do not get killed:

Additionally, applications can run as services or tell the OS "I want to do stuff in the background, don't kill me":

IMO, that's the way it should be. And yes, it works perfectly fine. ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] rorytmeadows:
Yeah flash is not the best choice when it comes to embedded video, but it's the best choice for many many things around the web. It will never be replaced by anything! I'm so glad Microsoft has at least promised to keep with flash for these reasons.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MooGoo:
Admittedly I've probably been a little hard on Flash. I think this is probably because outside of embedded videos most uses of Flash I witness on the Internet are for annoying advertisements.

Flash really is a powerful vector graphics programming platform. The problem is that despite its capability, it is still very slow. I have yet to see a single Flash game that rivals even the Super Nintendo in the graphics department. And what is the framerate that most Flash apps run at...12, sometimes 24? That's pathetic. The SNES and almost all 2D consoles ran at a steady 60fps, modern 3D consoles like the Xbox 360 and PS3 average around 30fps.

Flash might be capable of higher framerates on more powerful computers, but I've never seen this adaptation. I believe it is a design flaw, or some kind of limitation forced upon it when being run as a browser plugin. Either way it does not reflect well on Flash. My Intel Atom powered media computer can perfectly emulate at full speed the Playstation 1 and N64, yet it stalls up completely when trying to run a moderately complex Flash game, and many embedded videos.
[Windows Phone 7 General] shaundalglish:
At least you can block them. HTML5 allows for ads that you can not (yet) block.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...eat_flash_surprising_results_of_new_tests.php

Admittedly, this is only a video test, but still it shows one thing: With hardware acceleration, Flash is actually very effective and does not consume more power than HTML5. Flash being slow is, IMO, a myth - mostly spread by Apple fans, who are annoyed by the 'slow' Flash on their Macs, which is actually Apple's fault, not Adobe's.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rorytmeadows:
I agree completely. I would post a link to the thread where I discussed this, but it was closed because some whiny iPod user didn't like all my Apple bashing...
[Windows Phone 7 General] MooGoo:
When it comes to playing any videos above SD, hardware acceleration will be the defining factor, with or without Flash.

Still I've not yet seen anything to convince me that Flash is not slow. Oh I'm sure there would be no issue with running several flash animations and videos at the same time on a brand new Core i7 CPU. In my experience, it is on older and lower powered CPU's where Flash really begins to struggle. And it really shouldn't. I've seen my Atom powered mini-computer run all sorts of videos < 720p without hardware acceleration at full speed. Yet it constantly lags and drops frames even on the lowest quality YouTube clip.

And I have yet to see any game programmed in Flash that looks as good or runs as fast as your average SNES game from nearly 20 years ago! Maybe I have not been looking in the right place. Please someone link me something that will change my world view. If it looks better than Super Mario World (I'm not asking much), I will gladly purchase an Adobe teeshirt and go hang out in the local Mac Store.
[Windows Phone 7 General] shaundalglish:
Sorry, I really can not comment on this, cause I've never seen Flash running slow. I've also never used a Netbook... :D

I won't say Flash is perfect, or anywhere near perfect, but it certainly doesn't deserve the bashing - especially from Apple.

(Flash is bad cause it's slow? Then what is iTunes?? Flash is bad cause it's proprietary? Then what about Quicktime and just about any other Apple product??)
[Windows Phone 7 General] rorytmeadows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfmbZkqORX4&playnext_from=TL&videos=AIEgU8IXnCw

OOPS!
[Windows Phone 7 General] shaundalglish:
Hilarious. :D

And extra funny how the same stuff works much better on the Nexus One :D:D

From the comments:
[Windows Phone 7 General] XaaR_:
Maybe this is a bad idea, but I thought that I would write a serious post in this flamewar.

http://bolingconsulting.com/blog/?p=46

The system suspends the main threads while the other threads are free to run (at lower priority, I suppose) until the phone runs out of resources. I would guess that they have some system limiting available resources to the background threads, to save battery life.

At least the current system seems to work like this.

And to you that is raging about that Microsoft is trying to reach out to the casual and wider mass, can you just face that it is a minority that want to flash ROMs and similar stuff?

I don't think that the platform is flawless, there is more to do, e.g. Sockets access.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] miguel11691:
Should i use these custom roms or should i use the ppcgeeks.com custom roms...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] kwambewright:
CDMA

any ROM designed and labeled for a CDMA phone will work. Do not attempt to flash a gsm ROM :(
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
You have a CDMA Worldphone, so you should only flash ROMs and Radios made for CDMA Rhodiums, or you can brick your device permanently. Unless a ROM or Radio in this subforum specifically states that it is CDMA (which is unlikely), you should not use it. I recommend getting your CDMA ROMs from PPCGeeks, as that forum is aimed more a CDMA users, and has more CDMA ROMs there.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Badwolve1:
He's right, flashing a GSM ROM is a easy wat to get a very expensive paperweight!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] AllTheWay:
Moving thread

Moving thread to CDMA section.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] burtonsnow8:
best bet would be to look here:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98
[HD2 General] saintnickxiii:
Alright alright shoot me if this has already been asked or mentioned or thought of by anyone here or any one who you ever knew. I've been searching the entire net, the XDA forums have nothin on the subject (the the search function and i arent seeing eye to eye.).

My problem is this,

I am at home, connecting to my router, and that connects fine. But i am not connected to the internet. On my PC there is an option if i want to connect to the network, and then the internet. But in the HD2, there is no option to connect, Im only connecting ot the network, but not internet access.

went to a buddys house, he got his wi fi up and running in a matter of seconds, he did exactly as i have done, located the connection, typed the pass, and that was that.

but i cannot even find a place that asks me for an internect connection after i have connected to the network, nothing there.

And i cannot find any help on this subject.

i hope you get me if not, then dont bother. i am tired of reading mountains of crap that has nothing to do with my problem.

thanks in advance

appologies for my tone, just a little frustrated right now.

ah, btw, my 3g connect works fine. just not the wifi.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Once the network is connected there's nothing more to do to get internet access. At home, does it take a long time for the HD2 to connect to the network (arrows moving on the wifi icon more than ~5secs)? If you co to connection manager -> wifi -> advanced -> advanced tab, what IP do you have?
[HD2 General] saintnickxiii:
Well it connects to 'alice-wlan' really quickly, and automatically.

but there is still no internet connection. i think its a router setting problem, because on my pc i also have to connect first to alice.wlan (does it autoimatically) but then i have to manually connect to the internet (broadband)... i do not knwo how to change this.

i dont know what IP i have, you mean as a router?
[HD2 General] saintnickxiii:
correction,

now it connects to the router quite slow, if it does at all, then drops it almost immediatly.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Just tell me the IP address that is displayed where I explained.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
that makes me think you are using the old style routers that don't hold the broadband always open. meaning either the router or the pc need to dial the adsl. usually you put the connection details into the router and it handles it,,

just thinking out loud.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Hmm actually now you say that I've been at someone's place recently where they had an ADSL plan that was time-billed, so they had to open a browser and login before being able to access the web...

Could you please say what you have to do for this?
[HD2 General] saintnickxiii:
it says 0.0.0.0 hmmm i dont know if that right tho
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Wait until the arrows stop moving on the wifi icon, and it whould then say something more relevant.
[HD2 General] saintnickxiii:
still nothing, 0.0.0.0 ...
[HD2 General] saintnickxiii:
well, in win7 i alice connects automatically, then theres a broadband (internet) tab, i click on that, and it runs the use/pass and connects.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xyrovice:
**Let me begin by saying that, as a newcomer to the forum, I apologize of this has been posted in the wrong place. I considered posting it in various HTC Fuze specific or Android subforums, but decided on this one as it is "(Android) Software...General". If there's a problem, please notify me and move this thread accordingly. I have no intention of creating problems.**

I've been doing a great deal of experimenting with Android on my Fuze, and (after trying XDAndroid 2.0.1) am trying to get 1.6 (Donut) working.

I've been using the (1.6) build on connect-utb.com. My phone is an HTC Fuze, or a Raphael 110. Apparently, it (the build) was last made/modified on 11/22/09, and (quoting from the download/version description):

"This Android package is based on the Current phhusson/leobaillard's release from 22.11.2009."

The problem I'm having is that, among other things, 1.6 seems to be VERY unstable.

A program (google maps/voice/android keyboard/marketplace/etc...) seems to crash every minute. I've become rather exasperated with it, and, after multiple manual restarts and re-installations, I've come to the oasis of mobile phone knowledge asking for assistance.

I'm confused (regarding 1.6), as this is supposedly the more stable build. I shied away from XDAndroid 2.0.1 due to the small bits of UI lag I was experiencing. 1.6 attracted me due to the claim that it's much faster (as well as having a couple more features working).

Can somebody give me some advice in regards to whether I might be doing something wrong? I'm sure I'm using the correct startup.txt, and don't quite know what the problem could be.

Granted, if somebody also has ways of optimizing XDAndroid 2.0.1, or providing an optimized build, I'd welcome that alternative.

In short, I'm looking for an Android build that will run very fast, and with exceptional stability, on a Raphael 110.

Thank you in advance.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] JR_de:
Get the latest builds from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=601751
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xyrovice:
Thank you for pointing me in that direction, JR_de, but, as I understand it, that thread pertains solely to Android 2.0.1 Eclair.

When I used that version, I found the graphics and response times (overall system speed) were somewhat laggy. Is that normal (for my phone)? Is there a way to optimize it?

I know that the HTC Fuze (Raphael) has a 528Mhz processor, as well as 288Mbs of RAM, which is on par with the HTC Magic - another Android phone.

Can you please provide some insight as to whether I could either 1)optimize Eclair or 2) download a stable 1.6?

Thanks again.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jul644:
.

try agian when its update almost everytime its improved speed wise

some have said that the febuary 22 build is faster
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xyrovice:
Would that also include every build thereafter, or just the one from February 22nd?? I downloaded and am using the March 1st build in the hopes that, as it's the most up to date, it will be the 'best'.

Also, I saw something about enabling 3D in Windows Mobile (before launching Haret, I assume). It said you could do this by launching TouchFlo3D.

I booted back into WinMo, launched TF3D, and am now going to see if it's any faster.

Thank you both for your help so far.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ben_duder:
You might have more luck posting your questions on the XDAndroid forum. I too would definitely recommend using the later Eclair versions, I remember a massive performance leap around two months ago when that version number shot up. The Eclair builds will obviously be updated more regularly too.

The graphics lag is completely normal for your Fuze. The reason isn't a hardware problem, it's because the drivers for the graphics chip and just about everyting else in your WM phone need rewriting for Android, and they haven't been optimised yet, hence them not running as smoothly as on phones whose drivers have been written specifically for Android by HTC themselves.

My Touch Pro would require a soft reset every ~5 minutes with the XDAndroid 1.6 builds, but I could probably use it for 24 hours now on Eclair without it crashing.

If you're still unsure, why not just give Eclair a go? You can always switch back if you find it slower. As for your search for a build "that will run very fast, and with exceptional stability, on a Raphael 110", I'm afraid that the development just hasn't got there yet, especially for the stability. Relative to Windows, it's still miles off for that.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xyrovice:
Thanks for taking the time to write this.

Since my last post, I have indeed given Eclair a second chance, and find it performing a bit better than I remember. Granted, I'm using the 'standard' home screen, not the Home++ one (if that makes any difference).

Also, thanks for clarifying that it's the graphics drivers that are hindering performance. That gives me hope, seeing as it's (more or less) a software issue that can, and hopefully will be, fixed.

While I would love to see the OS become faster one my phone, right now my biggest issue lies in battery life. Past that, it's camera capability, and then GPS. I'm also fiddling with a 3g/data issue, but I'm sure I'll work that out. I have never used bluetooth for the years that I've owned a cell phone, so I'm not too worried about that.

Honestly, though, I've been using Eclair for the past few days with very few reboots. I've never has any major crashes (usually only one when I boot into android and it says the latin keyboard process has crashed), and thus haven't had to reboot out of "necessity."

In short, I have given it a second chance, and am very thankful for doing so.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ben_duder:
I wouldn't worry too much about battery life, GPS and the camera as they're the most commonly asked about things on the thread. The developers are well aware of how many users want these working, and I'm sure that if the project continues to be updated, these things (particuarly battery life) will be prioritised.

I asked svetius to open a board for Raphael Android Development, and he has very kindly done so. In the future, you'll probably get more replies here.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xyrovice:
This is very, very much appreciated.

Thanks for your time, as well as the link (and your efforts in regards to the creation of that board).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] intel i7 quad:
does anyone have a good startup.txt file for their raphael

i need one because my raph has android preformance issues.

thanks
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ebartolon:
How Can I Multiboot Roms, is it possible?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] linkinx64:
There is not enough space in the phone to have multiple roms, your best bet is having several nandroids :D
[Dash 3G, Snap General] mrgreencom:
I'm looking for any information on replacing a microphone in a Dash 3g. Does anyone know where I can get the part or if it's the same in the old Dash?

I would be interested in any service manual or parts list available as well.

Any help is appreciated!
[Legend General] jokeyrhyme:
I've read most HTC multi-touch handsets use a bugged controller that has an axis-inversion issue. You can test this yourself on all Android handsets by downloading the Multitouch Visible Test (Battery Powered Games) application from the Android Market. The Motorola Droid doesn't have this problem, so I've read.

For example, my HTC Magic (32A) will show this axis-inversion problem after performing a diagonal pinch gesture and then pulling my fingers apart again (while still contacting the screen), although it can take several pinches to demonstrate it. The phone will usually correctly detect the position of my fingers when I pinch, but when parting my fingers again the phone will believe my fingers are retreating to the wrong corners of my screen.

Can someone with an HTC Legend please test the screen with this application for me? Cheers!
[Legend General] beetleman:
Hi,

I just tested, and yes it is like on Magic, he inversed multitouch in few seconds, but then he is back on track.

So it is a HTC bug.