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[HD2 General] Archer:
You can change the zoom level in the settings. The wasted space on the right is what my original moan about their "fix" to the text reflow issue was about. They've done that so that text doesn't have to reflow when you zoom in.
[HD2 General] bronx:
[EDIT]

nvm... I know what You mean, but again, I'm not bothered... :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] arturobandini:
anyway, no multitouch is not acceptable.

Also, I noticed this bug. I was using Opera 10 and received a phone call. Opera prevented the phone to open the phone interface.

Therefore I could not answer the phone call...

weird....
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Found out that if you go to settings->zoom and set at 60% you get the 1:1 view (800px virtual screen) again. And scrolling is incredibly beautiful and fast. BUT, you can't zoom in at all anymore. :mad:
[HD2 General] bronx:
it just crossed my mind, maybe it's rom related? I use stock wwe 1.66 and never had any flash bundle installed.

I am triple happy now, as I can browse lloyds tsb site without any problems now. finally combo box lists are useable, I can scroll them with a finger.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Actually it's not too much of a problem! Seems they improved the clicking of links, and now even small ones are correctly clickable at 100% :)

Pretty good in that configuration!
[HD2 General] tboy2000:
i think opera 10 does support hd2. if you click on the link below and scroll down you clearly see an image of a hd2 with the browser on it.

http://www.opera.com/mobile/features/
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
Did try this but the images (like on touch.facebook.com) still looks blocky, as does the BBC Sport mobile site - sticking with Opera Mini 5 for now personally...until FF Mobile comes out!!
[HD2 General] rickyoon.vegas:
Whoo! go fennec!
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Yes, but it makes no sense viewing mobile versions at this point :)

Images are resized on the mobile version, on the full version they are not and look great :)

[edit] less broken, but still a bit. My photo gallery (in my sig) has decently sized thumbnails (200px), 800pix wide items and 1600pix originals, so it makes for a pretty good test. It seems they all display somewhat aliased, except the 1600 originals when they open in "fit to screen" style.

Apparently that view still isn't 100% for all images.
[HD2 General] Shadowdh:
Hi there, love opera 10 but can anyone tell me how to change the language as mine has come up in Chinese (and my Chinese is not quite good enough to figure it out)... also once you have changed it which button is used to save the changes? there are two and after I changed language something in user prefs I am not sure which to press... thanks...
[HD2 General] boohoo2u:
There is a long way round the missing thumbnail. Create the bookmark. Open previous Opera 9.7, visit website link just created, wait for page to load, exit, now the thumbnail appears.
[HD2 General] anhphe076:
Link:

Opera Mobile 10 Final:

Touch:

http://www.4shared.com/file/242556963/94021be9/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_final.html

Keypad:

http://www.4shared.com/file/242557840/86432583/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_kp_final.html
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Apparently, you simply can't change it, there's no such option. However in \Program Files\Opera Mobile 10\profile you've got opera.ini that has a line about "language file". You should be able to change that to "en-GB.lng".
[HD2 General] 1keynose:
flash not working for me. do i need to download a plug in and where will i find it. i have plugins enabled.

thank you
[HD2 General] lemonspeakers:
Can you please test of Newyorktimes.com and gmail.com are mobile versions or desktop versions. THanks!
[HD2 General] tboy2000:
just tried mobile 10. nice ui but horrible to use. going back to 9.7
[HD2 General] Spl4tt:
i dun really need multitouch.. and the new opera mini 5 and mobile 10 are awsome

using mostly the opera mini now.. and opera mobile 10 if i have enough time xD..

opera 9.7 suxx for me, dun need it just because multitouch.. never used pinch zoom in browsing anyway xD
[HD2 General] tlefeuvre:
Hi,

Shame that google reader iphone page does not fit correctly on touch diamond 2 :-(

Back to Opera Mobile 10 Beta 3 where everything was ok ...

Thomas
[HD2 General] dan021211:
Installed Opera 10 and lost zoom through pinch...

I just installed Opera 10 on HD2 and apparently I lost the zoom with pinch...

Is there a particular tweak I need to know about?

:(
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
how about the favorites? when I tried 10 beta it used its own favorites and not the auto synchronized favorites.
[HD2 General] Cenobite_:
Anyone knows how to edit or remove a speeddial item? As soon as I see the context menu, it disappears when I try and select the edit or delete menu item.

I can't remember if it behaves the same as in beta 3. I think I was enable to remove an item.
[HD2 General] lemonspeakers:
Does this mean u can watch hulu.com now?

also, youtube is NOT the full desktop version! wtf is that? also, u dont watch movies directly on the site, it takes you to another built-in opera streaming player.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Come on, the thread is full of people complaining there's no multitouch....

Do the user agent change described earlier in this thread.
[HD2 General] tlefeuvre:
Google Reader

Don't know if you are using or tried Google Reader but it's a major flaw for me with the final version whereas it was working amazingly well with beta 3.

Indeed, i think people should now UNDERSTAND that pinch to zoom will NEVER EVER work with opera mini or opera mobile 10 as the zoom management is completly different from opera 9.

Thomas
[HD2 General] Madmax0609:
Speaking of HULU: Has anyone EVER been able to view HULU on their HD2?
[HD2 General] milli260876:
eh? Skyfire....
[HD2 General] donwhann:
tried it and its far from perfect.....
[HD2 General] rumpleforeskin:
excellent release, i for one have no desire to implement pinch to zoom. I only ever used to zoom it to the same level that i now 1 touch zoom to... so now life is easier.

flash works well on most of the websites i visit, excellent.

My only surfing gripe now is tmobile compressing web images grrrrr
[HD2 General] :
its crap im going back to beta 3

im forever having to refresh pages to see them, very annoying
[HD2 General] Dr.Sid:
It might be opera too .. if you use Turbo. In that case Opera does lower the resolution. But you can click on the picture and select 'open full quality'. And I guess there is even some hidden option for that.

In fact turbo is perfect way to get around t-mobile proxys.
[HD2 General] novahob:
I've installed and then gone back to beta 2u. I just feel like the beta version is alot faster to load pages than the final version. I might try it later in the week, though these are my initial impressions.
[HD2 General] fazerrider:
That's the "old" HD, not the HD2
[HD2 General] Shadowdh:
DOH...!!! ok so I have to put the en-GB.Ing into the language file? man I am so bad with technamology... :D
[HD2 General] arturobandini:
Definitely a very disappointing release... Worser than a beta.

Sorry but multitouch shall become standard features on any modern browser.

I cannot understand that it is not supported in this release. Multitouch devices do exist, so the browser shall obviously support it. Even the old 9.7 version could do it...

But, sadly, it is not the only problem...

- v10 does not snap to text and autoresize columns like it did in the previous builds,

- No zoom button / no variable zoom,

- delay when typing: too slow to display the typed text

- still NO REAL FLASH SUPPORT (works only from time to time),

- Pictures refuse to load the first time (sometimes need to reload the page !),

- slower loading, slower renderering than previous builds.

Etc, etc, etc...

I'm not convinced at all.

Mainly I am quite surprise that Opera has decided to release such an unfinished product which is obviouly no less than a laggy beta version. The absence of multitouch integration is just incredible :mad:
[HD2 General] ikovac:
I think they screwed it up somehow. I installed it and cannot run it. Many people complain on Operas forums for "Opera could not be intialized" or similar error. Beta 3 works fast and stable. It is much faster/fluent than 9.7, but lacks many things too. Among usual things like pinch to zoom I hate there is no "open in a new tab" option in Opera 10 beta 3.

edit: lol it has open in new tab! but not always! must be some tricky pages then

So back to beta 3 for me.
[HD2 General] tboy2000:
Erm I don't think so. Its definately a Leo.
[HD2 General] billu:
After installing, cannot select swype as a SIP. Also had problems with the camera application in one of the Opera 10 betas. Un-installed it after 5 mins.

PS for what its worth, Youtube didn't work, running stock 1.66 WWE ROM.
[HD2 General] Coatezy:
Been using Opera 10 beta and loved it.. Installed final and love it even more now that screen rotation is supported.. I actually find the pinch to zoom on the stock opera annoying.. Not as good as pinch to zoom on my 3gs. Find it a lot of effort. Opera 10 all the way for me Until I get my Desire.. Still cant decide if I should keep the hd2 as well or not. Think I probably will end up keeping it as a second phone.
[HD2 General] Boxfresh:
I have to say it really is fantastic. I couldn't fault it in anyway.
[HD2 General] Towserspvm2000:
It's good, but I can't help feeling they should do a "best of both worlds" for us! Going to give it a go along side 9.7, and it might just win.... eventually.
[HD2 General] Jackuuuuu:
QFT...

Why on earth that Multitouch is not there?? What could be a logical reason?? :eek:
[HD2 General] Archer:
Opera 10 is not a HD2 version of Opera. Opera 9.7 is.
[HD2 General] MalekoUK:
Flash dont work for me, but then I will use the YouTube app for videos.

Prefer it to 9.7, faster and smoother.
[HD2 General] Olioaglio:
Some help

Opera 10 imports automatically the booksmarks found in Opera 9.7.

So, if you want your old bookmarks, just install Opera 10 whilst Opera 9.7 is still installed.

After Opera 10 is installed and your booksmarks are imported, you can uninstall delete old Opera9 stuff.

Read the following in the Opera All Versions thread and it might by worth trying.

The hint was posted by Eman3000. Thanks m8.
[HD2 General] dio62000:
I saw Skyfire mentioned here; I don't understand why people dislike it so much, I think it's a great browser as it plays flash perfectly. Ok, it isn't multi touch compatible, but you can double tick to zoom in, like in Opera. I think it's a perfect alternative for Opera, just to watch sites with flash installed.
[HD2 General] bronx:
to be completely honest with You I ain't got a single clue about what's going on with Your devices... to double check I went to youtube.com, launched full version of page with the link on the bottom, have searched for video ("stay too long" by Plan B if You need to know :P), launched it and with double click I made it play fullscreen. no probs at all...

another day... I'm still impressed. overall user experience is much more pleasant than with 9.7. not a single crash, I don't have to zoom 300% to click a link, no lags at all. damn, I was even able to launch 2advanced.com web page on it. :eek: those saying it's a step back need to check it again or check their glasses. :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] Athar Mansoor:
Hmm. You seem to be lucky..

When I type in Youtube.com.. I always get redirected to m.youtube.com and the videos open in the streaming player.

But when I try other sites like for e.g. pocketnow.com and check the videos there.. the page displays a 'Flash 9' icon in place of the video and thats its..

I think we guys should definitely be missing something..
[HD2 General] bronx:
if it's any help I'll repeat: I am on wwe 1.66 stock rom, no flash bundle installed in the past, opera 10 set as default browser, opera9 folder deleted from windows, haven't done the "user agent" trick yet. I always look for a link to switch to a normal site, like I did with youtube. I've noticed another improvement, when entering text, i.e. replying to posts in the forums, there's no lag at all anymore. maybe this new edit box thingy helps, but again sometimes on 9.7 it was a challenge to type something quickly w/o loosing letters or making typos.
[HD2 General] jonolo:
Camera app not working

Hi guys,

does anyone else have issues starting the camera app when Opera10 is running in the background?

I still get the same out of memory error that I got with the O10b3 release...

Cheers

Jonas
[HD2 General] Meiyo:
Won't install

It's really smooth and fast .

I like the layout , but gotta get used to it.

Youtube always opens in mobile version how can I just view the normal site ?

Camera won't work with opera running in the background . I get this message : "Unable to initialize camera. Failed to set up the camera device ".
[HD2 General] Joker2206:
And what do we get with new Opera:

Nice UI

What we lose:

Multitouch (pinch to zoom)

Still going for 9.7 because of that.

MultiTouch is future
[HD2 General] shu8i:
on youtube i get "an error occured, please try again later" on evvvvvvvry video. but every other site is working just fine :confused:
[HD2 General] padlad:
If you install to memory card, you will be able to start the camera when opera is running in the background. I get a screen freeze if i am viewing opera in landscape and then press the home button.
[HD2 General] Wildcopper:
Well you get more than just a nice UI with Opera 10, but I agree, not having Multi Touch sucks... I'm gonna keep Opera 9.7 as my default browser, and only use the 10 for the content the 9.7 doesn't display properly like Flash.
[HD2 General] Olioaglio:
just tried the youtube site with the tweaks i posted in post #89 and it works fine (desktop version). videos play fine in browser window also. just give it a try.

Olioaglio
[HD2 General] ephestione:
I might be among the unlucky, but I still get no flash in websites. No youtube, no snotr, no custom flash basic animation I got on my own wrebsite, I just see an empty rectangle with a "play" symbol in the middle.

I installed opera 10 final after having installed the ninjaduck build with flash light included.
[HD2 General] webjunky:
go on facebook and try the farmvile application , it won't work :)
[HD2 General] Si607:
Hi Eddy, what didnt you like about opera 10 could I ask please, I am using mini at the moment and think its pretty good too.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Flash does not work, 100%, with this install. If it works for anyone then it's because they already have a plugin installed that is handling it.

So, with that in mind, would someone who has Flash working please tell us where they got the plugin, as it

does not

work without one (exactly as it has always been with plugins, on every platform).
[HD2 General] ephestione:
Don't know if I should read your message as provocative or serious... I am not expecting something like "bloons tower defense 4" to work on flash lite either... but I at least would like to have youtube/snotr movies playing well, or very basic animations do the same...
[HD2 General] bronx:
ok, but have You tried actually pressing this big PLAY button? I guess it's meant to be that way, to avoid flash heavy sites kill Your device on load.

to johncmolyneux: I'll repeat once again - I never had any flash installed on my hd2 before. period. I've instaled this o10 and BANG it works... :)
[HD2 General] Archer:
Sorry mate, but something has installed it. It's a plugin and therefore HAS to be installed. Flash cannot run without the plugin being installed.
[HD2 General] bronx:
so what makes You so sure that it is not bundled in any way with this opera? see... as I said, I haven't installed ANYTHING that was using flash before. I tried all those bundles and other crap coming with tcpmp and others on my xperia, but I never felt any need for that on hd2, hence I keep it clean.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Sorry mate - I didn't mean to just openly disagree with you, and I certainly meant no disrespect. I'm only assuming that it's not bundled with v10 as it hasn't worked with any of the betas and still doesn't work (for me and lots of others). There's obviously an answer as to why it works for some and not others, but it looks like neither you nor I know what that is ;)
[HD2 General] bronx:
lol... that's true. ok... so do You see that damn rectangle with play button inside? can You press it once to zoom, then another to play flash content? are plugins turned on in advanced?? anyway... I got no worries mate, just trying to help. :)
[HD2 General] Dr.Sid:
AFAIK flash plugin is included in Opera 10 since Beta 3. It kinda works for me and I did not install any specific Flash plugin. It does not work any good. For watching videos the youtube application is much better.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Nah - I don't even get that much. I get a "you need to download the flash plugin" (depending on the site, of course). And yeah, plugins are turned on (or not turned off).

Edit:

LOL @ me!! It's a long time since I've felt like a noob!

When you go into settings and advanced, where it says "Plug-ins" and it's not highlighted where it says "off", I assumed that if plugins were off then it would be highlighted. I didn't realise that it would change to "on" when I clicked it! lol.

All I can say is... Bring on the Trumpets!
[HD2 General] bronx:
that's really weird... so maybe it's rom related then? huh?
[HD2 General] Olioaglio:
:D;):D

Olioaglio
[HD2 General] neverFollow:
I've installed Opera 10 Final English upon RTT R9i GER, and it comes up with German menus and some Russian (?) search engine instead of Google. WTF??
[HD2 General] Athar Mansoor:
So it worked for you?? I mean were you able to play flash videos.??
[HD2 General] pierluigi.rovere:
i want to let opera runs the flash contents automatically. is it possible?

on youtube i must click on the gray circle with a row inside (like a play button), for playing the video. i checked the plug-in option in the setting tab, but nothing is changed o.o.

thx XD
[HD2 General] Archer:
Yes mate. In the settings, in advanced, where it shows plugins and a greyed out "off", that actually means they're off, not that they'd be off if you select it. Do it and it changes to "on".

Stupid design really, but I'm glad it's sorted.
[HD2 General] bronx:
trust me, You don't want it to run automaticly. some sites/ads are quite heavy and can almost bring hd2 to it's knees. do You want Your hd2 on it's knees?? :)

anyway... John... You made my day... ;)
[HD2 General] jegloco:
how to make the opera 10 as the default browser?

please advice...
[HD2 General] Hoodeddeathman:
Streaming Media

I noticed that when playing a youtube mobile video, it runs through the streaming media app. Anyway to change that back to the youtube application because the streaming media plays the video in terrible quality.

Cheers
[HD2 General] mwie:
What about the sync between Opera and the Mobile Favorites of IE?

With a cooked in Opera 10 there is no Opera 9.7 you can import something from... The original HTC ROM displayed shared favorites while using Opera or IE...

mwie
[HD2 General] Olioaglio:
mwie, no idea how to do this, sorry.

Olioaglio
[HD2 General] Olioaglio:
If you do the tweaks posted in #89, the videos play straight in the browser windows as you aren't redirected to the mobile yt site anymore. Its much better quality, but maybe a bit flicky due to desktop resolution.

Olioaglio
[HD2 General] Olioaglio:
So what about just changing the default search engine in opera:config

Same with language, if you want to.

Olioaglio
[HD2 General] neverFollow:
I actually looked into opera:config in the first place but could not figure out how to change the default search engine :confused:
[HD2 General] mcdoc:
Wierd! Opera 10 beta works fine. Opera 10 final - "Could not initialize opera"

Won't work on my HTC HD2. I installed beta again.
[HD2 General] monx®:
I think Opera Mobile 10 = Opera Mini 5.

Its like it just compiled together with java emulator :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] ephestione:
Well guys, I installed the opera 10 final got from the official website, and I do have the "on" near the plugin setting, and I do see the rectanglewith play button. I did press it many times in several different websites, and all I see is that the plkay button disapperas but nothing else comes up.

EDIT: Also this happens unregarding of what I put in useragent settings. And on an unrelated note, the final version of opera 10 appears to be hanging the first time you type an url and press enter, it loads a few blue inside the progress bar and stays there, I need to retap that bar and press enter at least once again to make it load for real... bah

EDIT2: there, it just hung while leaving it by itself on the shelf presumably "loading" the flash...
[HD2 General] rik-sik:
back button

how do I assign the back button to opera ten ? be easier to have it workin :p
[HD2 General] Dr.Sid:
Not really. Opera can work directly, without Turbo. Opera mini 5 only works with turbo, and there are many little differences.

What is a bit confusing is that Opera mini 5 now comes both as Java applet and as native WM application. That is, as you said, just compiled together with java emulator (or something like that). But it still is totally different application which only does almost the same and looks practically the same.

Opera mini 5 especially has much smaller memory footprint. That is hardly concern on HD2, but on older WM devices it can help.
[HD2 General] saleemhd:
Backup & Restore

Anyone know how to backup bookmarks & settings of Opera 10 to be restored with Sashimi?
[HD2 General] Athar Mansoor:
Ahh.. the videos playing on me browser now.. ===> Happy

Thats just qualifies O10 as the default browser..

Stupid me was playing you tube on mobile version thats how the videos were playing in streaming player..
[HD2 General] Olioaglio:
You are right, sorry, thought this would also be customable in config,

but it was just homepage. Don't know though, why your O10 choose some

russian search engine, mine does google germany as default (on german system). Maybe it depends on SIM?

Olioaglio
[HD2 General] ozkaya:
only thing keeping me from using opera 10 now is the absence of multi-touch. I wish it was possible to hybrid 10 files with 9.7 multi-touch files.
[HD2 General] loney_frsu:
cant download opera10 download link not found
[HD2 General] tonydee1965:
Opera Beta 10

Did you install the 'keyboard' version or the 'touch' version on your HD2 only I found the 'touch' version gives me erros on opening the browser.
[HD2 General] neverFollow:
Nevermind, I did a hard reset yesterday, installed Opera again and now everything's fine: German menus, German Google... Go figure... :D

Thanks for your help anyway.
[HD2 General] bokechukwu1:
I installed this on my storage card and any opera 10 that I install it crashes what could be the cause of that cache? I mean what could or be?
[HD2 General] lemonspeakers:
it should be up now.
[HD2 General] Martinhdk:
Hi all. Regarding multitouch...why dont you use Zoomer? Works very good with OP10..
[HD2 General] kenkiller:
I think you don't seem to understand the functionality the guys are looking for. They want multitouch functionality similar to the one in Opera 9.7, not the enlargement type offered by Zoomer.
[HD2 General] Martinhdk:
OKI OKI..:)

Does anyone know where to find a detailed description of SETTINGS in PREFERENCE EDITOR, as I have tried to find it without luck...

I belive that OP10 / 9.7 can be tweaked even more in some of the settings in preferences, like "number of connections" and so on...

Would be cool to see what they do to OP10...
[HD2 General] chmun77:
are you guys able to run flash? I tried to play it but it is not showing at all. Just an empty white box there.

Tries removed and reinstalling but still the same thing. Plug in is turned on.

I don't have such issue when using the beta 2. Running on HTC HD2.
[HD2 General] jimvakakis:
The only missing is multitouch :(

i have both 9.7 and 10 installed on my hd2 but i use opera10 more often because it is faster, smoother and supports flash. if opera10 had multitouch the old opera 9.7 would be usless in comparsion with 10.
[HD2 General] Joker2206:
Is there any tweak when I click youtube link in Opera to get link opened in YouTube player ?