yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
I have not left this rom freinds actually all the things are fixed in final version but it is not upto my satisfaction level, i wanted more ram and more storage, as i posted a screenshot few months ago. So i want the final version to be the most stable wm 6.5.3 as if a official upgrade could have been from htc, but my exams are also going on so i need little more thing to catch up then will release. I dont want to post here surprising asap it completes i will upload and post. you know in this test rom i have changed many core things to get better battery etc but i need more ram coz the max i got once was 82mb and free storage 191mb ...... so wait...
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Rata26:
Good friends are in waiting, again I write to beg you please do not modify the original design of Windows Mobile 6.5.3 we want to clean ... Should improve the speed, reduce battery consumption, add more countries in the Internet connection, leaving the original input keyboard with your vibration, because if you activate it the same way does not work, it would also be interesting to see a Spanish version is, for Latinos who continue their jobs, which is a tall order but we want something more beautiful and many details ... Original as you say something like an update from HTC

Greetings
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] zxcycle:
and pls put a option for the touchinput
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] acharya.tejas:
radio hangs

Hi,

I am using vodafone (gujarat) and when i do settings for vodafone gprs, it does not connect it on demand, but we need to start it forcefully which dont start actually but hangs the radio and then we cant even use phone.

!!!??? :confused:

- SMS fixed..

- battery --GOOOOD

- speed - great.

thanks..
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
Yes i know data connection not working i mentioned it in first post... to test

So sms fixed its confirmed good.

battery thats great that u saw some improvement i will try to improve more on final one

speed - as good as expected.

btw this is a test version so after testing i would suggest all to switch to normal rom for daily usage.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] mua30:
welcome pal to cheif's world :D
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] tatocrow:
WE ARE HOPING TO GET OUT YOUR FINAL VERSION ... WHEN we will see ..? Thanks for all the effort you make ...
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] bizmark03:
@ Jagan

and the wait begins again......this is like a suspense filled saas bahu serial...."......jaan ne ke liye dekhye....agle hafte..".....anyways...just kidding...hope you do well in your exams......and hope you sort out the issues with the rom...after that....All the best..
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Rata26:
Nobody wants to wait, we want this rom as soon as possible, and I think it is healthier to wait for your genius, healthy and clean finish that is important ....

Greetings
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] freelancer81:
been testing it for 2 days now...and

battery life seems a tad better than the current roms

performance is blazingly fast (which is quite a miracle in a test rom!!!)

connectivities (bluetooth, wifi, gsm) fine except gprs data connection.

i am sure the chef will look into the problem regarding the incoming call bug.

looking forward to the 'official release' of these evolution rom by the chef;)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Rata26:
As impossible, I am also awaiting the final version ... God wants and not give retouches or change anything with regard to the environment and icons etc.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
:eek: never knew you were indian. Happy to see and yes exam went superb... was too easy.

Yeah iam very happy that battery has improved and speed as i already said it must give you lightning fast speed.

And about gprs for my next exam i have some gap so i think i can work on it today remaining all bug solved.

But i dont understand which incoming call bug u are talking about? If its that caller id display prob then dont worry that i mistakely did actually i need to replace one thing to work it correctly (in new builds they come with that bug we have to replace some files with the old buils).

Dont worry atleast once i will release a rom with no customization at all, and that rom is evolution (as if its a official upgrade, but in official roms too oem customization is present so i will do :D just kidding, the first official evo series will be totally clean.)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] freelancer81:
yeah...i am talking about the caller id problem.....

i suggest you take your time and concentrate on ur exams too...

i admire you for your endeavour....god bless you bro!!!
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Rata26:
That friend, that's what we all want a rom, like HTC's official .... THANK YOU AND LUCK
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] zxcycle:
when will you release the final rom?
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] kalpeshmist:
great to see you've finally done.. you worked hard on that..

anyway, happy birthday!! :D
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] behdad61:
I think this rom terminate my viva:(
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
ahh you remembered, thank you.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
Update

So iam too close to the official final evolution rom

Here is the list of things that i have already fixed + all the test version problem fixed.

1. Titanium added

2. Taskmanager added (Arksoft or showcase)

3. IE problem fixed

4. Caller id display fixed

5. Scrollbar removed

6. No wifi auto start

7. Wifi works perfectly

8. Bluetooth works perfectly

10. USB to pc pop up

11. Touch input option

12. New drivers from 1.57.707.3 (spanish rom)

13. SMS prob fixed

14. Data connection

Now just in case if i missed something or i need final suggestion from you all to complete the rom. So tell me before i finalise anything more to be added or any more bug fixes (iam sure i have fixed all) tell me quickly so that i can create the first rom to create histor - the first bug free wm 6.5.3 rom for opal.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] zxcycle:
check if there is a option in the phone menu
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] xtitan:
jagan2 please add compact qwerty keyboard in your rom, thank you so much :D
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] KingScorpian1980:
Bro,

Also please check if phone vibrates when call is connected....necessary....
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] lhaussmann:
can someone post screenshots?
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
Please elaborate your request i dont understnad my simply phone menu it can imply many things which one u r talking about please dont reply incomplete.

compact qwerty its a part of ezinput so it would be there.

Lol i cant check everytime dude .... i do many mods and flash and test so u want me everytime to call someone? sorry i had once was able to put this feature but i dont remember how i got... i leave this to u for checking.

@all: So nothing major is required to complete?
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] daccibas:
nope.

give us the final version ;D
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] tarakus:
hello jagan

If the option "settings / system / regional settings is set to" French ", is it possible to have an "azerty" keyboard and french dictionary for T9.

Thank you in advance and good luck.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Rata26:
Start the countdown, waiting for this rom, I hope not to disappoint my friend, and is as clean as possible, but could you changed the taskbar that true?
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] zxcycle:
go to start>phone>option its not working in the test version

and pls release this final rom asap..plssss :)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
Hmm not sure try yourself, btw i have used ezinput wwe version (1mb) not the cht version (8mb)

clicking on start>phone openes the dialer so which option u r talking about if u meant to say start>setting>personal setting>phone then its there now with touch input.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] zxcycle:
yeh thats the one..ok thx for adding..pls release your final evolution rom if possible today
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Rata26:
Hello Jagan2,

When you release the rom? or you put a screen of the same
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
So seems everything is done but i need to give a final touch which will require some few hours which i dont have today so will not release today. I have my my mathematics exam tomorrow. Need to practice :D

@Rata: I havent replied to u coz you asking me the same thing that is will there be customized task bar or so? how many times i have to reply man that atleast once that is this evo rom will have no customization.

Anyway tell me how many time i have to repeat i will do? :)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] tarakus:
Hello Jagan,

As you wish, I've tested your ROM.

1) I can not access the keyboard setting "T9" as for the Rom_PDA_viet_6_5_R28

2) The option "setting regional / French" works and "Windows" goes to French for calendar, date, alarms ....

3) The management of the SIM card is perfect, no errors reading from SIM.

This is the first ROM I test that works well for this function.

4) The ROM is the most responsive I've tested so far.

Good job
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Rata26:
Good luck in your examination friend ... And we hope the rom
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] R3ason:
I've been waiting for a rom like that for a long time, Jagan you're my savior.

No time right now to test that pre-release, work eats all my time, but i'll sur install it when it's ready!
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] lkachun9129:
Can you provide a list of packages that included in the rom?

I would like to know whether the latest htc album and phone canva are included in the rom.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] KingScorpian1980:
No problem bro. Just because its a good feature I suggested it. I am not saying you have to call everytime you build one.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] tatocrow:
jagan friend we are waiting for your ROM when you will have here?
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] zxcycle:
hey friend, pls release this final rom..im thinking to buy another phone or wait for your rom
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] elatrul:
Maybe his exam was too nervous... And he drinked too much whisky:)

So take your time, man. Relax. But don't forget about us:)

Waiting for EVOLUTION!
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
Now one more exam remaining (computer science) which i already studied plus the last exam is on coming monday so i have lots of free time. I am starting to work on the evo rom now, and will complete cant say when i release but will update here soon. Will let you know the finishing progress till now as i said all bugs fixed now some final touch needed.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] imblfmstr:
Com2 build

@ Jagan

Buddy can u pls upload ur kitchen or provide a clean com2 branch ROM of ur evolution series
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] Rata26:
We are still waiting for this rom ... Greetings
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] freelancer81:
Same Name...Different Numbers (bug?)

bro Jagan

surprisingly, battery seems to last longer in your new rom. could it be due to the NEW DRIVER or NEW CORE or Different Branch

(COM8)??

or is it due to the absence of the Lockscreen(slide2unlock)?

or is it due to the absence of Titanium?

so...when you finished building the updated ROM of yours, please build the same ROM again but this time leave out the

lockscreen (slide2unlock) and Titanium for testing purposes please.

one more thing...all my contacts shows up with only one particular name with its own correct number when i dial any person in my

contact. ex: whenever i dial a person whose name is Ricky it always shows as John but the no. is Ricky's. When I open 'Contacts' it

all looks fine- different names and numbers. i used PPC PIMBackup to backup and restore my contacts. i am confused. is it a folly

on my part or is it build related??? did anyone reported such bug? i did not do a hard reset, will it be due to this??

btw, a belated b'day wish from me and all the best in ur exams.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
Okay, first of all thanks for all the wishes.

Now back to the topic actually you have got a longer battery life, that is normal coz i did numerous tweaking i even dont remember. And it has no relation with titanium. So there is no need to creat again a rom without titanium offcourse the less app you use more u can save battery but again always remember just removing titanium would not give you a better battery.

And the other reason for high battery life, smoothness, and fastness is yes i have changed some driver, core updates and numerous tweaking (thats why its always been said a new level rom).

And that contacti problem its most probably build related problem as i said i forgot to fix that dailer problem.

@All: You can expect the final rom today (but again please dont be sure coz i may or may not upload today), but most probably i will do it today itself. I will update here as soon as it completes and ready to upload. :)

Actually was doing some testing on android, plus extendir.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] freelancer81:
yeahhhh righttttt....

you know best...it was just a noobie's thought!!!:D

no sweats...man, take your sweet time...better late than never, right?

btw...SJK_0.8.5.x still gives the same unflashable error:(
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] aidinvm_ultimate:
HI bro

is threre any chance to have your new rom today?

we're still waiting ;)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] aidinvm_ultimate:
one more thing bro,

plz don't leave toolbar with such rounded buttons :( ,maybe new light theme will useful :)

thanks in advance :D
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] shaffaf:
theme

plx use livven simple gloss themes
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
Okay, i promise today i release the final version :D

shaf.. i first thought to include that but please this is the first version in this series or u can say the first rom with all bugs fixed, more responsive and all and as i said it should be like an official update from htc so no customization.

After releasing it many flavours would follow.

All get ready to evolve ur viva. :D
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] aidinvm_ultimate:
hooommmm:D

it sounds great :D
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] mehulkarate:
pls release

We are still waiting for this rom
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
Update: Evolution rom ready, will upload in few mins or in next half an hour as soon as i put to upload a new thread will be created.

Head over to new thread. :)

(Its already 12:18 am here iam putting to upload if it get within a hour then link will be updated else tomorrow morning as i will go to sleep)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] aidinvm_ultimate:
thanks bro

and it is 11:10 pm (3:30+ GMT)

every one are awake ;)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] jagan2:
11:10 pm :-| i thought u r from india.
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] aidinvm_ultimate:
no bro

fortunately or maybe unfortunately I live in Tehran ;)

(it's really a beautiful city but government goes wrong way now a days... :(
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] havox22:
looks like gaming will be much better on WP7 plus check out the achievemnt unlock on the pic

more pics & the of the story here
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] DMAND:
Looks very cool and hopefully will attract a bigger number of game developers to the platform
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] JediFonger:
this is AWESOME!!!! =D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hoss_n2:
this is enough that wp7 is better than wm6.5
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pupakota:
pm me, if someone make snes/c64/mame/zx/Amiga/NEOGEO emus for your ubergamer wm7 system, please(just these from wm03/06 would be enough).

PSP-like gamers are not ONLY consumers of ex-PDA devices.

They think we all MUST play Diablo clones, lol.

btw, good luck with 3 hardbutton device and gaming(well, another 20+ hardbuttons would cost 5$, but...iphone rulez, i assume).

are you fresh, or what.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Shasarak:
Hmm.

That screenshot is a lot less impressive if it's pre-rendered with a fixed camera angle.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] DMAND:
From the sequence of screenshots from the engadget article I think it's less likely to be a prerendered scene. I mean come on its not too far fetched as some current OpenGL ES games look almost as good.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Wishmaster89:
Charlie Kindel confirmed on his Twitter account that it wasn't pre-rendered.

It is impressive.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] havox22:
pre-rendered or not the achievement is what excites me i hear its gonna be like xbox live arcade games where you can get 200 points per game

i mean really how awesome is it that u can build your gamerscore on the toilet:D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] JediFonger:
well time for video then =P. then we'll see >P
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] havox22:
they are showing a vid right now of it @ GDC i sure somebody will upload it if cameras are allowed there, they say it was only made in 3 weeks
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] supermaster:
Am soooooooooooo gona wait for World of Warcraft to come on Mobile :P damnnnnnn it wud be awesome! lol
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] DMAND:
Hopefully the possiblity to create games for desktop/phone/xbox in one go will lure all those games developers that have been chasing the iPhone as gaming on Andriod doesnt seem to have picked up much
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Shasarak:
So Engadget got it wrong? In that case, it is impressive. :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Pluto:
Wow , i feel like i'm gonna dump my psp when i get my hands on winpho7
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
Freakin sweet I started developing a platformer game in XNA for Xbox but I'm thinking I might change it to WP7 now. Or hell I could just do both.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] havox22:
do both & send me a free download code:D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
More videos on pocketnow.com

Pocketnow.com has some videos showing 3D games and affects:

http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/3d-games-on-windows-phone-7-series-part-1-of-2

http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/gdc-3d-games-on-windows-phone-7-series-part-2-of-2-3d-visual-effects

It is quite amazing.

If you know the answer:

- Is this much enhancement compared to current device?

- How is this compared to the current competitor (iPhone / Android) 3D gaming?

If you see the EnvMap demo at the end of video 2, what is your guess of the color depth? 65K? 262K? 16M colors?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Logicalstep:
This could be what sets WinPhos apart in the next gen phone race.

If they manage to snag all those xbox users over to Winphos dues to gaming that could really help the platform take off.

Logicalstep
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] AlkamistStar:
Wow...this looks amazing. I'm really looking forward for achievements on the go, lol
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vangrieg:
I can't claim I have the technical understanding of all the 3D lingo and stuff, but here's what I think about your questions:

- What I've seen so far, and not just in relation to games, is focused extremely and almost exclusively on rapid application development. It's obviously great in that with minimal investment you can get an app coded and deployed, but only as far as you need to do things that were included for you in the managed code SDK. So note how frustrated people were in that GDC session when they tried to figure out whether ad-hoc Wi-Fi/Bluetooth multiplayer games were possible. That functionality isn't yet in the SDK, so you're screwed, and you can't open a socket from an XNA game. Lack of native APIs is a serious problem actually. This could be a problem also for porting games and apps, no matter how quick and easy .Net, XNA and Silverlight are. Sometimes missing just one API call is enough to bury a whole project. That's why Google was forced to publish an NDK no matter how great Java was in their opinion.

- WP7S uses DirectX instead of OpenGL, which is an industry standard pretty much. OpenGL ES 2.0 (supported by the iPhone and, I think, by Android) have those programmable shaders (whatever they are), which seem to be a big deal. The DX implementation in WP7S does not. So apart from porting difficulties (which may not be that huge because companies like EA do lots of stuff for XBox), there are some limitations that might be serious.

- All that being said, WP7S is anyway a huge leap forward, if only in that it standardizes hardware, MS will do the drivers themselves (so bye-bye HTC driver crap) and it should be a gozillion times more attractive for serious game devs than Android (providing, of course, that WP7S devices sell well).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
Thanks vangrieg,

I am not surprised with DirectX because that's Microsoft stuff.

About the custom shader, they dont have "time" to implement:

http://blogs.msdn.com/shawnhar/archive/2010/03/10/xna-game-studio-on-windows-phone.aspx

So, I think probably XNA 4.1 will add that :)

And yeah, too bad with that wi-fi adhoc/bluetooth not supported, that means we cannot have multiplayer games without XBox live.

More on that, "synchronous multiplayer" (like World of Warcraft) is not supported as well:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/10/xbox-live-windows-phone-7-intergration-interview/

Are there any games on iPhone / Android with this kind of multiplayer (synchronous/traditional/real-time multiplayer?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] havox22:
you can see the harvest game running for a lil if u jump to 3:50 into the vid & a lil commentary

http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/gdc-xna-studio-40-windows-phone-7-series-part-ii
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] JediFonger:
thanks havox =)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] satchef1:
I've played an iPhone first person shooter in online multiplayer. Can't say I enjoyed it though, tiny screen + on screen controls = lame.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] havox22:
yeah but i still want the option to..there is so much they need to add & i hope they realize it & are working to get these features added
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] satchef1:
Oh, I get why people would want it. I guess MS are playing it safe to start with, there's a heck of a lot of work in WP7 as it is without adding more. Starting off with turn-based cross-platform multiplayer sounds sensible to me, I'd rather that was working well then have them try and get real-time multiplayer working and be left with a broken mess.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Scotsman828:
I can tell most people posting to this thread are under 30 years old. I just don't understand why someone wants a hardcore gaming device and phone combo, especially the younger generation. How can you possibly play games while receiving 2000 text messages a day?

Anyway you can easily see that Microsoft is developing this phone for the 20 somethings. The phone being a combination of a Zune and a Mini Xbox, they should have named the new OS, Zunexbox.

The phone and OS is going to be completely useless for anyone who wants a smart phone, this thing will simply be a mutlimedia device with cell phone capability.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] JediFonger:
scotsman, i'm a year away from 30. i don't think it's about massive ADD. i think it's about the capability of this being possible. while there *might* ADD kidz doing all those things simultaneously, i'd want the option to be game, phone, txt, do biz stuff all on 1 device instead of carrying a PSP/DS/etc.etc.etc. and mp3 player and multiple devices. it *should* be all in one.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Chaosstorm:
Well imagine being on a train every day for 45 minutes, then your phone becomes a mp3 player, internet device etc etc :P