yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rayjt9:
Apparently it will be out at the end of April. I would advise against updating it until the community can ascertan whether root will be affected in any way.

The reason root might not be possible after the update is simply because with updates they can change the way android handles everything and can make it so that no one can root. We don't know if they will, but it's quite likely.

Hold out a little while after 2.1 is released and everything will be fine, I reckon.

And happy birthday.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] blackheron:
Thanks for the reply, couldn't wish for more.

So i will have to stick to the old ROM for some more day after the release. This is bad news because the small kid eager to try new tech stuff is so strong in me, i will need to eat tons of lollipops to keep him from rushing the HTC support site and thunder-install the 2.1 official :)

Well.. i think i can do. I am waiting since late october for an update, 2 days less or more wont' change much overall.

Btw i agree with the other guys being mad at HTC. What nobody took in care about the "they are selling new 2.1 devices so they keep the 2.1 for hero back" is the fact that you can buy an hero at around 300€ nowadays, and since they are in stores already, i don't think resellers will be happy to have all those old Heros unsold because people are not wanting to spend 300€ on a piece of hardware which is unsure to receive an update to keep it up-to-date with the remaining android line of smartphones.

If someone has the money for a Desire or a Legend, then he'll take the latest product, no doubt about it. But if someone doesn't want to spend all that money on a piece of hardware which gets replaced ever 2-3 years (talking about normal people, not geeks or tech-maniacs/addicts), he should be entitled to see his 300€ have some value. We are talking of a PS3 price, not about a tip left for a waiter.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Ampicillin:
Hello Guys, i m new to this site ..but i m loving dis site..:) :( i want to know how can i update/firmware on my Htc Hero 1.5 to 2.1 ..:confused: i m waiting for 2.1 update since 1 month .. i dont know much about android or Htc ..can any one explains me it would be really great.. Thanks in advance..:)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Explosive_Cornflake:
In about 2 weeks you can, if it's released then. It has not been released yet. Rumored to be the end of the month.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] SherlockHolmz:
I'ts not out yet, you will find most of the info you need on HTC and android in the Hero subsection.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=510

and for basic info

here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Hero
[Hero, G2 Touch General] gardpett:
Blame #Iceland and #Eyjafjallajökull

But seriously I understand the impatience, I felt it myself. But I installed 2.1 from VillainROM4.0 Beta2 based on Legend. Working as a charm.

Stop whining please, I am sure there are some issues related to the delays...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cauli:
Not days, hours at most, more than likely. It's a comparatively simple process to modify an official update so it won't trash rootability. Essentially just rip out the spl & recovery images, though the minor changes to make it pre rooted will also be made & I imagine whatever else the dev/s feels like.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] harsha_aithal:
looks like u missed all the thrills..

http://www.android.com/about

http://www.htc.com/uk/about_htc.aspx
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Thunderglaive:
So Taiwan says 29 april? True? I pretty much believe them
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JW 301:
afaik Taiwan said April 26 if you refer to the release date in taiwan.

for Europe, all we know by now is "end of april"

for Sprint Hero it seems like beginning of may

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[Hero, G2 Touch General] cocomunga:
Early May now :(

http://www.channelnews.com.au/Communication/Mobile_Phones/F8R6W4C7
[Hero, G2 Touch General] SherlockHolmz:
im guessing early march.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Thiesen:
The year 6455674456..........
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JW 301:
that may date is for Australia.

good chance that Europe gets it end of April

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[Hero, G2 Touch General] pietplakpleister:
We will wait again. What should be the reason for all the delay?

:confused:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Dac0908:
To force is into buying new phones... desperately want Eclair? Pay for it.

There is a much cheaper solution - flash with custom ROM :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] mardurhack:
Yeah but custom roms won't ever be like stock ones... Expecially for kernel differences (draining of battery comes from it!). Would be nice, one day, maybe, to see a custom 2.1 rom based on the official one! And Nathan Russel (Villain) has written that he'll keep developing for Hero even a few weeks after the HTC release.

By the way: We're on April 21...Should be released tomorrow...If THE_ALL_SEEING/MAKINGMONEY_EYE (HTC) approves... :(
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rayjt9:
I've heard that it's likely to be released in its home country on the 26th, and everywhere else shortly thereafter. Would link to a source, but I can't for the life of me remember where I read it. It cited some official HTC thing in some language I couldn't read as its source though, so who knows.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kadison:
There hasn't even been a rumour about the 22nd, let alone anything official.

Now that sounds like a solid piece of information :rolleyes: ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
Yeah, HTC TAIWAN released a statement on PLURK (?), which I think is abit like Twitter saying the 26th. But again,.... I'll beleive it when I'm holding it in my hand.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ddotpatel:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-on-april-26th-in-home-country-of/
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Thiesen:
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait... *catches breath*... wait, wait, wait, wait, wait... *drops down dead*...

That's what it feels like when dealing with HTC...

GOD DAMNIT HTC, RELEASE THAT ****ING UPDATE ALREADY!!!!! JUST DO IT!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rayjt9:
That's the one! Couldn't remember for the life of me this morning. Cheers.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] hkr:
Hmmm, try again with:

DEAR HTC, PLEASE LET IT LEAK TO A XDA-DEV!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] SherlockHolmz:
June!

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...confirms-another-delay-to-hero-upgrade-684928

FUC* YOU HTC

last time im buying a HTC phone.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cauli:
Lol. I know it isn't the case, but it's still hard to believe they're not trying their hardest to piss existing customers off. Especially as Froyo will almost certainly be out by then, if only in the form of an initial AOSP source release. Who's up for a (worthless) online petition to HTC that they scrap the 2.1 update & go straight to 2.2? - I'm sure no one would mind an additional slight delay :rolleyes:

No announcements would have been better than the series of unofficial, semi-official & official statements that have come out of HTC from various levels. In terms of damage to their reputation, at least in the eyes of enthusiasts, it's getting to the point, imho, where no announcements & no upgrades would have been less damaging to them than the ongoing farrago followed eventually by an upgrade. They're certainly doing themselves no favours & should sack their PR dept, if they've got one.

I might well buy HTC in the future but support in the form of updates is very important to me. If I can get only slightly inferior hardware under the Google brand, compared to the then current offering from HTC, I'd almost certainly go with the former, after this current experience. At the very least, this issue far outweighs the benefits of Sense afaic.

Rant over, until June anyway ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sadape:
I agree with your rant.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] VaKo:
You nailed it, months of dicking about is far worse than silence.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] werpu:
Same here

I must say once a more reliable option supportwise is here, I will drop HTC instantly.

But the sad situation is:

HTC: Good hardware, absolutely lousy long term support of existing hardware.

Samsung: Bad hardware, software support is even worse

Motorola: Good hardware software support definitely is better than HTC but their non Droid Milestone is locked down like no other phone, so if they stop supporting it you are left alone, definitely a no buy because of this.

Google N1: HTC hardware, official google support, best of both worlds, but only buyable in the USA and UK which leaves the rest out in the dust.

LG: Mediocre hardware, software long term support seems to be not very good either

Acer: Just dropped the support for the liquid one as it seems, worst of the bunch so far

Sony: Mediocre hardware, phone does not get ratings which are too good

That sums the situation up, as sad as it is, as soon as someone promises and delivers relatively on time updates in combination with a decent hardware for a secured period of 2 years, I will leave the HTC world.

And no I dont want an iPhone, I want to stay with Android!

Heck they could even sell me a support contract if they stick to the updates.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] VaKo:
I think the only long term solution is to buy the Nexus One, as it's *the* Google phone, its the only one that is going to be supported in the long term. But alas, unless the next version of Android solves the fragmentation issue I can't see Android being a player for to long, there are only so many €400 phones people are going to buy if they are out dated inside a year, and even less if they're on a 24 month contract.

Also, I have to mention Nokia, they seem to support the enterprise phones for ages. My E71 seems to get updates every few months.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ansontou:
I'm gonna say good bye to my hero and welcome Blackberry.. HTC as a company Sucks...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] waxfondlr:
that HTC EVO is going to be the sh*t!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JanSchotsmans:
Actually, Google has just stated that they will not follow up and invest time in debugging the Nexus One any longer.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
really? where is the link to this announcement?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] attn1:
I think that was only in reference to 3g complaints, and I think the statement was made by one employee in their support forum, and not some official announcement. I could be wrong.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jwwd:
Hi again

I just got this reply from HTC Nordic Tech Support:

Hello Henrik,

Thank you for your inquiry regarding your HTC Hero.

I am sorry you were disappointed, but since HTC does not want to send a software out before it is absolutely right, there was a delay.

We have no details about software development from HTC, it is difficult for us to give a 100% secure date.

What we have been told from HTC is that HTC will provide a free update to Eclair for European HTC Hero variants. In early June, all HTC Hero owners receive an initial preparatory update, shortly followed by a complete Eclair update.
For the full update, we recommend using a free wi-fi hotspot or an unlimited data plan, otherwise the standard data charges may apply.

Should you have further some questions;, please feel free to contact od via email or telephone.

Sincerely,

Agnes

HTC

Best regards,

Henrik
[Hero, G2 Touch General] SherlockHolmz:
just got the same apologies and excues crap in my response.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] [funcoder]:
Ok. HTC has problems since january of this year?

I know the update was first planed for the 10. January.

So, how many programers has HTC?? One - programmer?

Thats absolutely not customer friendly.:eek:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] :
HTC replies

Got this from HTC today after emailing them about the delays to 2.1 for the Hero, and basically blaming them for the state of Android fragmentation.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bzh10136:
Just keep waiting...

so i read on engadet the other day that UK users wont see the 2.1 upgrade until late june so yall got one heck of a wait ahead of you on the bright side sprint users should expect the update to 2.1 in early may i expect well before the 14th of may
[Hero, G2 Touch General] SherlockHolmz:
And you got that confirmed where?

We (thanks to a guy somewhere above me in the thread) have the Director of HTC Nordic on tape, promising 2.1 on in 13th of november ( 2009 ) for nordic countries, aswell as 1 of april.

So unless you got that written in a iron clad contract, i wouldnt get my hopes up.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] wywywywy:
Well I still remain hopeful for a 26th Taiwan release!

As soon as it is released in one market, we can all then jump onto the Modaco/etc custom roms.

To the people who aren't happy with HTC, the only other viable choice at the moment is Motorola really. But I really hope Dell can produce something of quality to increase the competition.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tweedie:
Dell Thunder, Smoke, Flash, Aero are the up and coming dell android phones. The thunder looks interesting - hardware keyboard, 4.1inch WVGA screen, 8mp camera, 2.1 OS, but others will have 2.2 OS.

But bad news is that its not due for release till Q4 of this year (more likely 2011!)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JW 301:
well, if you ask me, setting the release date for the update to June is the cleverest thing HTC's PR department could do.

don't get me wrong, like you all I'm angry as hell about all the delays. but from their point of view it's the best thing to do. they don't have angry customers asking them about a release date whenever a rumoured release date has passed, which I think was about every 2 weeks. they don't have to disappoint customers all the time, just this once. and if they maybe get it finished a little earlier than they thought (which I actually don't believe, but hope never dies, right?), they can go "hey, big surprise". then it seems like they have hurried and customers think a little better about them.

so, I'm still mad at them because my Hero doesn't run 2.1, but at least I can understand why they took this step now, because after all, it was really embarrassing for them by now.

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[Hero, G2 Touch General] Thunderglaive:
Is it really comfirmed that it's the start of June? Fair enough.. Not that long time :o
[Hero, G2 Touch General] olafos:
No, it's not confirmed.... it's yet again a vague announcement via alleged direct contact between an obscure spokesman for HTC and some newspaper. This could again just be a rumor.

To be honest, I don't believe we will see an update. There are no races of official statements from HTC left, that state there will be an update, and rumors are a dime a dozen but never hit the aim.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JW 301:
it is confirmed that it will come in June, but not at the start or end of June; all we know is June, the rest are rumours.

i couldn't believe it myself as I read it would be delayed again, so i started a support request on HTC Europe. this is what I got:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] olafos:
Just observe what happened the last few months...

HTC's support reps have NO clue. It sounds unbelievable, but it in fact seems to be the case. Once there was a rumor on the forums HTC reps would answer emails with exactly those rumors (copied word by word sometimes). As long as HTC hasn't put anything on their website or at least on twitter NOTHING IS CONFIRMED.

To be clear on this... I don't think HTC's twitter is 100% reliable, but they have made announcements there before regarding the upgrade... why NOT THIS ONE?

HTC has a development section somewhere in Taiwan or maybe outsourced, and only those guys and the head staff seem to know what's going on. Local representatives just say whatever... we have videos of local country wide reps saying the update will 100 % certainly come before April... yet no update. It' all lies and keeping angry customers at bay/ quiet.

I hate what HTC is doing and I don't think there's anything we can do... but I truly believe that there WON'T EVER BE AN UPGRADE to 2.1 for the HTC Hero.

You don't think that's possible? Well, do some research, they (and other companies) have done this (false promises... then in the end NOTHING) several times in the past with other devices.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JW 301:
at least we can say that HTC promised the update (yeah i know promises can be broken) but stop telling that HTC never promised anything and therefore won't deliver anything.

we have some statements by HTC, and they are official

http://twitter.com/htc/status/5243593307

http://twitter.com/htc/status/9197263393

and last but not least

http://www.htc.com/uk/press.aspx?id=124748&lang=1033
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
Thanks. i wanted to post the HTC link too. some people claiming that there was no official statement have no clue. 2.1 will come for hero, no doubt.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] olafos:
Pff, es ist überhaupt nicht gesichert. Ich geb zu dass es wohl doch offizielle Ankündigungen hab, aber es wäre nicht das erste mal das HTC am Ende einfach sagt, dass es wohl doch kein Update gibt. Ehrlich gesagt weißt alles genau darauf hin.

Wenn wir andere Hersteller mit reinnehmen wird's noch lustiger... siehe z.B. Samsung. Da wird mittlerweile gar nix mehr erwartet.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JW 301:
very kind from you to reply in german on a fully english speaking board.

for all of you who don't speak german, i translate his reply for you:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
actually i can't remember ANY case where HTC OFFICIALLY announced an update but didn't deliver at all.

i can remember MANY people whining about i.e. 3d performance of Touch Diamond or Touc Pros or drivers not being up-to-date or whatever. But there were no official announcements on HTCs side which have not been fulfilled.

HTC never announced new drivers for the qualcomm chips, and they never delivered. Which shouldn't be a problem.

Please give me some kind of proove that HTC has done such kind of thing in the past many times...and i'm not talking about devices which didn't fullfill what the user expected (like the case with the laggy touchpro), but what was officially announced regarding device updates.

i have no doubt that we will get 2.1. The question is when...the latest june statement is also inofficial. Because we have heard many interviews with many htc representatives, and none of the was correct. The only thing we know for sure is that the update has been officially announced on the HTC.com website in the news section, without any specific date.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JW 301:
well, it's April 26 now and about half past three in the afternoon in Taiwan. any news about an update there?

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[Hero, G2 Touch General] laufine:
I got the news is the update will come in June.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] DaanJordaan:
...

Impatient

...

Impatient

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Impatient

...

Dead

...

Patient people live happier and more enjoyable lives. Buy some patientness now from www.idontwanttowaittill2012todie.com
[Hero, G2 Touch General] seshmaru:
Yup. June.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kadison:
Impatient :p
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sadape:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-apologises-for-android-2-1-hero-delay-685681

Less words, more action.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] xangma:
Search up HTC_NL on twitter, see their latest tweet about it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Sir_Oliver:
HTC_NL:

HTC is currently testing new functionality serving update to 2.1 for the Hero. This update will be offered as soon as possible.

about 3 hours ago via HootSuite
[Hero, G2 Touch General] SherlockHolmz:
sorry for going OT..

see you have Telenor(way) as carrier, do they serve in serbia? :D

Hope they release 2.1 way before june, hope they realize people are mad as fuc*
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Sir_Oliver:
Check your pm ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kharma45:
God I hope Tweet from HTC_NL is accurate.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
The tweet is accurate. They said it is being tested currently. what is new about this? They have been claiming this since Nov.2009.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] olafos:
Really? Have they been saying that they are testing ways to serve the update since then (as they do now)?

Because this actually implies, that they have the update ready (in the local offices) and only need to distribute it now.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JW 301:
I don't think that Google translation is very accurate

"HTC is currently testing new functionality for the update to 2.1 for the Hero. this update will be offered as soon as possible"

well, my dutch isn't very good, but I think it's not clear that it's about serving the update^^ could also be about the update's functions being tested.

very sorry about it^^

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[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
yeah we could start analyzing single words now in the hope to get the update earlier. But lets keep it realistic: This is just another standard reply which gets way too much attention.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] 2ma:
anyone heard about this? androinica.com/2010/04/27/htc-offers-apology-to-hero-owners-regarding-2-1-rollout-delays/

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[Hero, G2 Touch General] waxfondlr:
i am still holding out hope for early may..

i posted a couple pages back that i work for sprint.. for about three weeks they have had an alert that says that 2.1 is comming 'early' may, but conveniently leaves out any specific date.. i have absolutely no reason based on this to think it will go untill june.. if the software wasnt near a release stage why would sprint even get this info from htc? ..

continuing to be patient
[Hero, G2 Touch General] El Salvador:
Well, you're right about the translation. They say that they're testing some functionalities (of the update of course) and that they're releasing the update as soon as possible. In this context, 'testing' could imply a lot of things. Hopefully it's in the final testing stage but I'm affraid that it still gonna take a while..
[Hero, G2 Touch General] makerber:
I am working for T-Mobile and had the chance to talk to HTC techies today and here is what I was told:

1. Reason for the dealy is, that they moved most developers to other topics (new phones)

2. The update is mostly ready and needs clearance from mobile service providers

3. OTA on Hero from 1.5 to 2.x is broken, that's why they have two updates. One to fix OTA and then the final update. First update will take 2-3 weeks to roll out, which added some delay. They made the effort to fix OTA, because they anticipate future updates.

Take, leave it, bash it - just wanted to share.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
actually i also think that enabling OTA updates for the major 2.1 release will enable the hero to get further 2.x updates much faster. Since those updates will be minor updates there shouldn't be too much effort needed on HTCs side.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] SherlockHolmz:
What about unlocked phones then, why would we have to wait for clearance?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
because the update is "mostly ready" which means it's not finished, even without taking carriers into account.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] stanleyxu2005:
HTC is just a lier. I would never buy a HTC product later again.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] SherlockHolmz:
Im just saying it isnt a point for it not coming out.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] antz88c:
Check this out: Android 2.1 for Sprint Hero and Moment
[Hero, G2 Touch General] [funcoder]:
In the past there were a lot of htc employes which say that the update comes on XYZ. And we all know the result.

i think we will not get the update earlier as June!:mad:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] DSF:
Froyo (Android 2.2) may be released in June (source androidandme.com).... Cool. We get 2.1, others 2.2. Nice one..
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tweedie:
Wonder if we should write to htc to skip 2.1 and go straight for 2.2 like they skipped 1.6+2.0? Not sure if I can wait another year though for the update!