yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] littlestrong:
sindrefyrn:

I have tried update your SPL 1.76.2007 from recovery. It remain S-ON afterward.

So, I downgrade my SPL to 1.76.0007 and raido 6.35.07.xx from HK stock sense rom (Hboot mode -> sappimg.zip). The SPL and radio are successful downgraded. Then, I flash the SPL the 1.76.2007 in recovery. No luck.. SPL has been upgraded to 1.76.2007, but it is still S-ON..

pyee0124:

I flash all roms below with full wipe (all 5 wipes in recovery), they all are for new radio:

--[ROM][32A][6.35] SenseUI 2.1 based on DROID Eris dump. Both v01 and v02.

--Super-Hero (Build By AhmgskMod) [Based On Eris Dump].

--Eclair AME [Android 2.1] MADE BY ME [Only For New Radio] [28th Feb]

I also restore a nandroid backup which it was backup with Eclair AME rom, when my phone in good condition.

All the above roms can't boot up, all stop at htc Magic screen..

I search this forum and found 2 topics about making ENG SPL to S-OFF from S-ON.

1. Flash the nandroid backup boot.img file to the phone, might be one of them will make the SPL to be S-OFF.

2. Remove the battery for a couple of day, and leave the phone as it is .The phone might change to S-OFF itself.

Another problem, I can't flash my magic in RUU. ERROR 170 was found both in XP and win7. I tested it in computer with and without htc sync. I have install proper driver.

I have one more question, I can flash custom rom for new radio here in recovery mode. But all 3 roms I had tried won't boot up and stuck in htc Magic screen. Can anyone flash custom rom with S-ON SPL and found no problem in boot??
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] pyee0124:
You should still be able to flash custom ROMS regardless of S-ON. One of the other things you should try is formatting your SD card again.. Try a full FAT32, then try partitioning afterwards. I found that I could only boot Ahmgsk with FAT32/Swap/Ext2.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] littlestrong:
pyee0124: I have flashed the [ROM][32A] CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1, it can boot up with my S-ON SPL.

I will test flashing others rom and see if I can use Android 2.1.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] xaueious:
Having an S-ON SPL only affects your ability to use fastboot mode to flash things.

The way I reset my S-ON ENG SPL Dream was to downgrade all the way down the HSPL, but I do not know if this works on a 32A Magic.

I would try different combination of SPL and radio until I get S-OFF. However, this means that you have to flash your recovery, hboot and recovery all in your custom recovery. This was a little tricky to do because you have to do it 100% right or else you can get a brick (must have recovery that works with radio, SPL that works with radio, and radio flashed last, then rebooted to recovery via home+power).

My case was that I ended up with SPL 1.33.2005 ENG S-ON on my Dream. Changing to 1.33.2010, 2009, 0009 (my stock) did not resolve my S-ON issue. I was also not able to access my SD card.

Here's some Hboots to try: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=529019

You have to make sure you also downgrade to 2.x radio to use these Hboots/spl.

Make sure you also use the correct recovery: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=530492

(not sure which one it is you need to flash h/g. Or just CM 1.4 because I'm sure that one works for 2.x radio)

Not sure if you need to make your own update.zip files to do this or if you can just use flash_image.

I think the root cause is that flashing 1.76.2007 retained the S-ON flag on your old 1.76.X ROM. You need to start on an S-OFF SPL or a SPL version that 1.76.2007 overwrites the S-ON flag with S-OFF for.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] littlestrong:
xaueious, thank you for your suggestion.

I believe downgrade the SPL and radio might help to fix the S-ON to S-OFF.

But it is a risky action.

I can use the stock sense rom and [ROM][32A] CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1. Even though they are 1.5 rom..

I don't know why I can't boot up with 2.1 rom here for new radio.

I have tried format the sdcard, and flash the 2.1 rom, in case there is any problem with sdcard. But no luck, my phone still can't boot up, even I wait for over 30 minutes.

I will try any new 2.1 rom for new radio here, and wish one of them can boot up. May be there are some actions need S-OFF SPL while booting up.

For now, I had removed the battery of my phone. I will boot it up this Saturday, hope my phone will turn the S-ON to S-OFF itself.

Since, I found a topic here discussed about the phone changed from S-ON back to S-OFF after a few days without battery.

Hope we can find out why ENG SPL changed from S-OFF to S-ON. Before I came to this situation, I didn't flash any radio and SPL while flash the rom.zip in recovery.

This is strange!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] xaueious:
The ability to boot 1.5 or 2.1 ROMs is dependent on how the kernel is compiled and not the Android OS version number. However most 2.1 ROMs need a newer kernel that has support for the new radio, and hence the limitations. As soon as official support source code is released for new radio, we can have new radio + old ROM combinations.

I tried taking out my battery too but I had no luck with mine.

Flashing the SPL is not that bad if you know what you are doing. But since the new radio ROMs are not that bad I wouldn't bother too much with it.

There has not really been a good enough 2.1 ROM to use without any kinks yet. Just stick to cursor sense for now?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] littlestrong:
I will keep my phone without battery until this Saturday, hope the S-ON will change to S-OFF itself.

If not, I will flash the “Sphaerospresso_Alpha_1”, and see if it can be booted up.

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For downgrading my radio and SPL, I think I should go for SPL 1.33.xxxx and radio 3.22.xx.xx.

I have a thought to downgrade the SPL and radio by flashing sappimg.zip of “ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010)”. I don’t if it is possible.

I can erase my system and boot partition via “fastboot erase” command. Can I erase these partitions and escape from the mainver check while flash sappimg.zip in Hboot mode?

I this is OK, all the SPL, radio and rom image will be flashed at the same time which is more safe to prevent from bricking my phone.

If no go by flashing sappimg.zip. Below is my imagined step to downgrade my SPL and radio in recovery mode.

Now I have SPL 1.76.2007, radio 6.35 and RA-hero recovery.

1.	I need to copy the necessary zip file of SPL, radio and “recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.6.2H.img (for 32A old radio)” into my sdcard.

2.	Boot to recovery mode (RA-hero recovery), then flash the RA-sapphire recovery via “adb shell flash_image recovery”. No reboot.

3.	Then I should update the SPL via “update from zip file”. It will complete flashing while rebooting to recovery.

4.	Update my radio via “update from file” in RA-sapphire recovery.

5.	Check radio and SPL version in fastboot.

I have a worry, downgrade the SPL to 1.33.xxxx in recovery should reboot the phone in order to complete the update process. I don’t if the RA-sapphire recovery is suitable for SPL 1.33.xxxx with radio 6.35.

If not, can I boot to the 1.33.xxxx SPL in fastboot mode to boot recovery or flash radio?? OR Flash SPL and radio using "flash_image" in recovery?

Please correct me if there is anything wrong. Thank you.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] xaueious:
Downgrading using ROM v2.53.707.2 is better than flashing the files one by one because you can't screw it up. You might need to make a goldcard to have it flash this though. But if you have S-ON it might not let you flash this even with a goldcard. Try this first. If this doesn't work flash the SPL and radio individual form recovery. I don't know if it is going to work on your phone. There are threads on how to make a goldcard in hiapk I think.

6.X radio does not work with 1.33.X SPL so don't even try it.

Otherwise your steps 1-5 are correct, except that in step 3 your phone should not ask you to reboot until you flash the radio. It is supposed to reboot after you flash radio aka step 4. Double check that k?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] littlestrong:
I have a goldcard. Will try the ROM v2.53.707.2 sappimg.zip first.

For downgrade in recovery, using zip file changing SPL will ask you reboot with "home + back" then reboot to complete the update process.

I am now searching if I can update the SPL through "adb shell flash_image hboot". If it is possible, then step 4 should be update the SPL with "flash_image", so no reboot required.

I will also check if I can update the SPL.zip and radio.zip at the same time in recovery then reboot.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] littlestrong:
I have boot up my phone today.

The SPL is still S-ON..:(

Then, I have flashed the v2.53.707.2 sappimg.zip from Hboot.

I successful downgraded the radio, SPL and rom. After reboot, fastboot mode show radio 3.22.20.17 and SPL1.33.2010 S-ON...

So, I flash the SPL.zip from recovery. I tried:

Engineering SPL 1.33.2010

Engineering SPL 1.33.2009

Engineering SPL 1.33.2005

All of above SPL can't change the SPL to S-OFF.

I believe my phone has been locked in S-ON state. No matter any SPL is written. May be I should wait for a new ENG SPL to override the S-ON state..

I will switch back to stock 1.5 sense rom and wait..
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] bragajb:
HELP

Trying to upgrade to Froyo new rom ....

now all I can see when magic is on:

"SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT-1.76.0009 (SAPP10000)

CPLD-12

RADIO-6.35.08.29

Dec 8 2009, 17:38:48"

RUU USB

No way to get out of here!

It doesn´t reboot normally- Always with this info. I can connect thru sdktools but when I try another radio or version it always say :

it says:

sending "boot"

writing "boot" ...INFOsignature check....

FAILED <remote 12 signature verify fail>

Any help?

thanks

:(
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jgcaap:
this is quite anoying i've been seying this situation in many members. I have a friend in same situation. No solution yet found ... :\
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] drbobb:
how about

fastboot oem enableqxdm 0

? IIRC it's been reported to work for some people.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] MarcVikernes:
There is a way out of it. But due I am a new member I cant post a Link. Search in the Forum for "Are there any solutions to deal with PERFECTED SPL 1.76.0009?" and go to page 21.

Try Post #204. I have had same Problem on my HTC Magic 32A though. After I flashed to the new RUU I was able to flash everything :-) Have Fun and report back!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] darkwingduck20:
your little fix for the s-on issue bricked my phone
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] dingas:
fastboot oem eraseconfig changed S-ON to S-OFF on my device!

spl 1.33.2010 in here!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] thelibrarian:
THANK YOU ... been trying to get s-off for a while now but nothing worked until now ..... fastboot oem eraseconfig worked like a charm

radio: 6.35

spl: 1.76.2007
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] bryanch12:
my SPL are the same as yours. but when i try the mentioned command

i get waiting for device. do u encounter same scenario?

C:\android_sdk\platform-tools>fastboot oem enableqxdm 0

< waiting for device >

so what shall i do next.. an idea?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DonJuan692006:
Trying doing fastboot devices and see if you get the phones serial in the return line. If not, you don't have the proper drivers installed.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] kanttii:
AWESOME thanks man, that command did it. My hboot suddenly changed to S-ON - I noticed it when the phone suddenly became super slow, I couldn't access sdcard (block not found), couldn't flash images... THanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pluke100:
I added music to my storage card, however i can't see them in the music tab. I added them to the WM library with the hope that they are linked, but nothing happened.

any tips ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] grahamkdt:
Mmmm...

When you say you can't see them, do you mean none of the tracks are there or just the images are missing? If it's just the images, you need to open your music folder on your storage card (with a file explorer that can see hidden files) and make a copy of one of the image files there and rename it 'folder'. Windows Media player names it's music images 'Album_Art.....jpg' - TF3D album needs 'folder.jpg' - If there are no image files, you'll need to manually copy them from your PC and rename as mentioned.

If the music is on your device, but not showing in TF3D album, try soft resetting and see if that refreshes the list.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pluke100:
i don't see the list of music. i tried soft resetting
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mitsi:
Try the following:

1. disable touchflo in your start\settings\today\items screen

2. soft reset

3. use total commander to delete Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Audiomanager_Eng.vol

4. restart touchflo

It should then work. However, this process will also delete any playlists you have.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pluke100:
thanks mitsi. it worked :-D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
This is all one picture, so you will need to download the zip file.

Move them to your Storage Card and reboot or they will not show up

Here is a thread to many more

1st Set

2nd Set

3rd Set
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
Nice I've been using the black tile one for a bit...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
Dibbs on the chick!!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
haha. nope already taken lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
here's an HTC desire "like" wally... and a few misc. ones to...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
Well share her lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
added more
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
thanks! I don't usually use anything fancy but some of these are really cool
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
You may want to add a 'potentially nsfw' to this title. ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
what does that mean?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
'not suitable for work'

they don't bother me, but might be considered work inappropriate at some places (not that any of us would browse xda at work, of course) :D

Edit: i see that's done - thanks, mate.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
Dibs on all the girl's lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
cool, im glad you like them. I didnt create them, just made them more accessible to us in the vogue forum
[Touch CDMA Android Development] krwilson:
Is it possible to add wallpapers to the NON ROOTFS so they're already there when you install??? I do not see where they would go, such as media/audio/alarms for example.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i believe you would have to edit an apk to include them in the rom itself. I may be wrong but you can put them on your sd card and they will always be there no matter what rom you install
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
yes and yes, you would have to create thumbs and add them to the launcher.apk. or just put them in a folder on your sd card and mediascanner will find them on boot and add them to your gallery app.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
My wallys have never been added to the gallery automatically on startup. I put them in a folder called "wallpapers" on my sd.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
mediascanner should find them anywhere you put them on your card. You do have to reboot though after putting them on there or it will not find them. My gallery shows every picture i have on my sd card. like 3000 pics from different wm themes i have on there(kinds annoying) i need to get rid of some stuff, but it will always put the newest added by date at the top of the list.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
Yeah I was confused. I thought ms meant the built in wallpaper gallery. Yeah the gallery is semi-annoying it even shows album art.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
so your saying you can get them to show up in the built in gallery by putting them in a wallpapers folder on your sd card?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mr. Clown:
First of all, I will like to thank you for sharing your opinion It's quite interesting to know your personal observations regarding mostly of the roms.

My opinion to you, is that you probably didn't experience the fullness of some of the tested roms.

For example, from your info above you only tested a combination of Hard and radio...having this, probably it affected the perfomance of some roms and your opinion about them. The chefs try these roms for a lot of time and they test radio and hard combinations that most suit their roms.

Maybe you should need more time testing roms and update your thread constantly over the time, if you want to keep it interesting.

Additionally and my final comment, roms are made for different tastes and suits different needs for many people, that's why there are many out there. What I'm trying to say to you, is that what is best for you and it will not be the best for me. You can see in the specific threads of these many roms that many people says the rom is the best for them and for others isn't. Also you will experience it here.

Thanks and good luck
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Hence the reason he put this in the post.

That was pretty cool of you to write this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] galorin:
I'll definately be following this thread, as I am new to the world of ROM's as well. I've not tried a lot of radios with each ROM, and I've only tried out 3, though none of the ones the OP has tried. Maybe I will give them a shot as well. For me my priorities are a fast phone that I can use for system administration and looks good as well. I am currently running T.I.R. v 10k Angel ROM currently. It has a lot of the features I like, and is fairly responsive, but some of the customisations are not to my taste, and I've had to disable a couple things because of speed constraints.

I look forward to more reports. It does seem no matter what I choose, even the stock HTC ROM, my wifi is a bit buggy, has trouble connecting even when a few feet from the AP, with unobstructed line of sight. Oh well, might fix it when I replace the digitizer in a couple weeks. Phone was well used before I got my hands on it.

***Edit***

I don't know how much of this is true, but a work colleague who has had years of experience with WiMo phones offered this tidbit:

A lot if the improvements in Windows Mobile 6.5 are HTC's customisations on 6.1. Microsoft and HTC built Windows Mobile 6.5 off the back of HTC's work on UI customisation and other changes. The keyboard in 6.5 is excellent, as is the haptic feedback.

I don't know what a naked 6.5 ROM looks like, as I haven't found one to try yet. All 6.5 ROM's will be slower compared to a 6.1 just because of the system requirements and all the extra fancy stuff 6.5 does.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aggelosp:
Thank you all for reading this thread and special thanks to the people that replied. So far, I haven't tried any other ROMs as Ahmedfikry's has kept me very satisfied.

So the latest status based on my experience:

- Ahmedfikry Tilt UC rom [23544] [Light]: My mobile phone has been fully functional for the whole week, without even the need to reboot it. I had no problems while exchanging e-mails, using office applications, connecting via mobile internet/WiFi and playing games. I am going to try 23545 that I heard it's quite faster.

I'd love to hear opinions from other people for other ROMs as well. Come on guys, share your opinion. It's a general opinion thread after all. I'd prefer to post positive or negative xopinion about ROMs into a general thread than going to an author's thread and saying "your ROM is slow, this one is fast". ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] WWebber:
Cant get follwing to work on a HD2:

InputModeEditor.SetInputMode(<TextBoxName>, InputMode.Numeric)

The keyboardpanel always shows up as it was left before. Maybe it's relevant, I'm using this in an option dialog and not in the main window.
[S740, S743 General] insyirah:
problem solved..thx
[Windows Mobile Software Development] WWebber:
I managed to perform a focus control change with <Enter>, but it beeps always. How can I suppress this?

private void <currentControl>_KeyUp(object, KeyEventArgs e) {
if (e.KeyCode == Keys.Return) {
<nextControl>.Focus();
e.Handled = true;
}
}
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] georgeono:
the program tab in WM 6.5 has 3 columns. How can I get 4?

Thanks in advance!!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] fighter7139:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=539107
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] georgeono:
WM 6.5 :-|
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] fighter7139:
Sorry.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=589380
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] georgeono:
thanks

thanks a lot. If you have any more useful links, please post. Any kind of themes, games etc, whatever you know ;-) Thanks again and cheers!!!
[G1 General] zyxel04:
hello i've got my htc g1 and i've requested unlock code from t-mobile and

they gave it to me. but unfortunately, i've tried changing the sim and entering

the unlock code but gave me network request unlock unsuccessful error.

i've checked the code a lot of times and still couldn't get it unlocked.

please help...
[G1 General] evilkorn:
What did T-Mobile say when you called them back and said the unlock code didn't work?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwerty3656:
My experience is only with a G1 - what is state of the art these days? I would probably want a real keyboard.

Thanks for any advice.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anartic:
I think this is all about opinion though, so in my opinion, it would be the Nexus One. If you want to know what might be the best Android phone that hasn't been released yet, I would say the HTC Desire, but again, it's just my opinion.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwerty3656:
Neither have a QWERTY keyboard, right? Any thoughts on a phone with a real QWERTY keyboard?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coredalae:
there are none wich are up to date with android 2.1 :<

there is this LG phone but it still runs 1.5, and the x10 mini pro will also only run 1.5

wtb HTC device with keyboard and 2.1!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asb123:
well theres the droid, but its not htc.

It should be getting 2.1 soon.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hiddengopher:
wait for the nexus enterprise
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legend221:
I like querty want to see a phone with an actual keyboard too.

The G1 is definitely an awesome phone but can not last forever as newer and better Roms are officially released.

I don't think these companies understand that not everyone wants an all touch screen phone.

Hopeful to see a decent, rootable replacement for the Dream sometime in the near future.
[HD2 Accessories] saggydog:
Can this be used as a Bluetooth wireless keyboard for HD2?

I found this device at mobimega

http://www.mobimega.com/logitech-dinovo-mini.html
[HD2 Accessories] NightFire123:
yes i used it on mine, but i dont remember the program to connect it.

With the program u can even use the mouse

only some mappings on the keyboard doesnt match the key u press
[HD2 Accessories] saggydog:
ok thanks for the info
[HD2 Accessories] tunppi:
any news on working and which program/driver you need for it?

found one cheap and maybe could get it if it works nicely on HD2

gimme your recommendations or hates!
[HD2 Accessories] fuxer:
Yes it works,i use them both regularly.

You don't need any soft/driver,just pair it over bluetooth and you'r good to go!
[HD2 Accessories] skysailer:
how about in android? anybody know how to use the BTKB under android???
[HD2 Accessories] DJChriZZ:
I tested on my hd2 with android ... the dinovo mini paared but not connected :-/

I will try today more ..... the dell striked works with the keyboard but I don't know how.

I think there's a solution with "BlueInput for Android" but this cost 9,99

I test the demo version .... no connect to the keyboard :-/
[HD2 Accessories] teejayenator:
The Dinovo mini works perfectly. I personally use it. although i don't know about the mouse, i had an issue with a few key mappings in the start but when i flashed another rom, they disappeared and now works like a charm :)