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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] AngelDeath:
Agreed.

Sleep not Screen, we're so use to desktops lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Axesplit:
UPDATE: Hey everyone! As I stated I would post back if I experienced anymore SODs. To date from my original post I have not experienced ANY SODs since making my changes.

This leads me to believe that maybe there is a conflict between hardware and the way animations in the new Sense are handled. It may be an issue with Manilla but I do not know if Manilla is installed on the standard ROM image from HTC. Since so many people have complained of it on most ROM images, including HTC's, it's got to be something universal that all the ROMS deal with.

If you want to try what I did feel free. I'm very happy now that my sleep of death issue appears, at least for now, to be gone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] superchilpil:
SOD

From my experience i usually have these issues with the SOD when i use th lock screen from Cookie's home mod. once i reverted back to the default lock screen the issues go away

btw im running the latest ROM from "Energy" w/ sense 2.5 w/ cookie home tab

as i said this is from my experience so it may not be the problem
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 8SE8:
I am utterly pissed off after having read this thread. I just shelled out the cash for an HTC touch pro 2 over my Xperia. The main reason behind this was the damn SODs Xperia was producing. I think this is going to be my last Windows-mobile type phone. These devices are becoming a joke for anything business related.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Bear in mind that this thread "only" has 82 replies (at the time you posted) though. Considering the amount of TP2 owners on this forum, that's a tiny amount. I'm not saying that it's not a problem, but *touch wood* so far I've not had an SOD (and let's hope I've not just jinxed myself !). Hopefully you'll be fine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cjm1979:
It only started on mine when the official Htc sence 2.5 roms were leaked. So id of said its more likely manila rather than windows.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] illyvdm:
THAT is sooo true
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 8SE8:
Let's hope so. They do have different models, I'm really hoping the one I ordered (T7373) is not affected. If I get another SOD after getting rid of this worthless Xperia I'm going to throw this device back in HTC's face.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ScooterG:
Just be careful what ROM you "upgrade" to. I've only had one day with SOD in the last 3.5 weeks and the cause of it was something I was able to diagnose and remedy that same day.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Andr3Wcz:
is there someone who has StockROM with sence 2.5 and installed OPERA MOBILE 10 and never had SOD bug? Is it possible that sod bug could be caused by Opera 10?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MauriceA:
SOD related to WIFI environment?

Last week I enjoyed a nice vacation abroad. The whole week no SOD on my TP2. This week I started working again and voila at least 3 SOD's per day. :mad:

Main difference for me was that at home en work I am surrounded by WIFI networks...

However I have WIFI turned off. :confused:

Maybe this triggers somebody in determining the cause of the SOD?

I have the latest HTC Stock ROM installed with CHT

ROM: 2.07.404.1 (80303)NLD

Radio: 4.49.25.91

Protocol: 61.44etc.25.35U

OS build: 5.2.21887
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] boufa:
There is no solution to "the" problem. The problem is that there are multiple causes. Why would I get them on my Kaiser and not on my Tilt2? There are soooo many variables. Think of the SOD as the windows mobile equivalent of the blue screen of death. Many things can cause that problem, and many things cause the sod problem.

I had 1 with my new HTC Pure and none so far with my Tilt2. I had a lot with some Tilt ROMs and only 1 in over 2 months on a different ROM.

I suspect that possibly, one of the causes is the Task29 thing. It makes sense, so I now run Task 29 before every ROM flash. I also keep good notes on what ROMs do and do not do it for ME, since it seems to be quite the individual issue.

I ready on another thread that it maybe due to older SIM cards, but I also understand it happens on phones without a SIM.

So use Task 29, find a stable ROM that works for you, and then realize that the only thing you are losing is the ability to flash and flash and flash. That is much better (in my opinion) than keeping the option of reflashing every week and then have the phone be nearly useless due to SOD.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Andr3Wcz:
Ok I tried to flash stock rom with sence 2.1 first and it works! I didnt have SOD for two weeks. Here is what I did:

1.Task29

2.Stock rom with 2.1

3.HR

4.stock SPL

5.HR

6.Stock rom with 2.5

also installed Opera 10 (last version), so Opera doesnt cause SOD.

Now I am very happy, rom is very stable and fast.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MauriceA:
Previous stock ROM HTC does not have SOD

Went back to previous HTC stock ROM with Sense2.1:

ROM: 2.07.404.1 (80303)NLD -> 1.88.404.3 (67102) NLD

Radio: 4.49.25.91 --> 4.49.25.17

Protocol: 61.44etc.25.35U --> 61.44tc.25.32U

OS build: 5.2.21887 --> 5.2.21854

Result: no SOD anymore...

And no CHT anymore... :mad:

This is very disappointing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ionut.micu:
Possible Solution

I've encountered the SOD issue and it was about to get me out of my mind.

The original 1.86 build never had this problem, but 2.07 original build almost all the time putted my phone in to the SOD.

I thought that the problem it is caused by one of the drivers or software's provided by HTC, so I started to cook and test tones of rom alternating different version of OEM, EXT, OEMXipKernel, os.nb.payload, romhdr.bin, xip.bin from 1.86 and 2.07 builds but with no success, I was about to give up and flash a stock 1.86 rom when I entered in:

Settings -> System -> Power -> Advanced Tab and I unchecked both of the check-boxes "Turn off device if unused for".

Since then the Sleep of Death is history for me.

My sister is using my old Raphael with a rom cooked by me and never had this issue, instead rhodium has it with the same windows version (23529).

I hope this solution it will help other people who have this annoying issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] egalwaat:
Hi

just wanted to say,that i'm using the stock HTC rom.1.8 (sense 2.1).sense switched off,using windows desktop.and i never had a single SOD.never .

I flashed the latest 2.07 with sense 2,5 once,but as i dont use sense/manila anyway,and heard about all the problems people do have with that release,i flashed back the previous version (without task29,just normal procedure),and as said ,not a single SOD.Rock stable,and without sense fast enough for my taste.

Cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] S.V.I:
I think it is the power drivers/hardware

I also get the sleep of death on occasion, but this seems to happen mostly when the device is asleep in the cradle over night...

However, recently I noticed that my KAISER also has this issue!!! Never happened before I started cooking for both of the devices.

I am concerned because there is a possibility that we may be getting a mobile virus.. as the desktop antivirus software would not detect it, so we also have no way of detecting it as well.

There may also be the issue with HTC possibly putting this issue within their software to make sure that the phone's are not resold without a stock rom (M$ charges for licencing) and while we can test and resolve the issues of their software, we can not have any stable versions without getting the newer hardware. (conspiracy theory, Maybe :D )

I do not think that this is accidental in any case. The Rhodium was the first phone that promised the upgrade to 6.5, but it still refuses to run it properly. at the same time HTC has switched processors and they are not likely to support our phones any longer. it is just too much of a pain in the ass.

I would suggest selling it. in fact, I am considering doing just that my self. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ScooterG:
No SOD in over a month here...:rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] koubiac:
never had a problem with the SOD until i flashed my recent rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thenefas:
fixed my SOD..

after fighting for days with SOD, disabling tabs and what not trying to determine what was causing the problem I finally just set my home screen to Windows Default and not Sense; no more SOD issues.

sucks cause I liked Sense, but, I don't like it enough to have to keep resetting phone every 2 hours.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] emwdava:
This Solution worked for me. I installed S2U2 and set it to power off the screen.

In manila i set "On Battery Power" Dim backlight setting to 30sec

and uncheck Turn off device.

In S2U2 I setup "On Battery Power" Like this:

Lock when screen is blank - OFF

Lock when Backlight turns off - ON

Power off in - 10sec

But blank screen only - OFF

Blank screen on talk - OFF

Lock on talk - OFF

When locked, turn off if Proximity sensor is blocked - ON

On wake-up, unlock if proximity sensor not blocked - OFF

"On External Power"

All is set to OFF

With these settings I get no more SOD's.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] epoh:
I've gotten the SoD without ever having installed Opera 10.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KENYONB:
The tp2 runs wm 6.5 fine. It doesn't run sense 2.5 well enough to avoid SODs.

Wm 6.5 with sense 2.1 runs fine for me. (e2s rom) No SODs. Fast and stable.

Every 2.5 rom results in death...

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Giuseppe:
Hi All, I'm in the club.

I experienced SOD

either

1.86.408.0 (67102) ITA

RADIO: 4.49.25.17

or

2.07.408.1 ITA

RADIO: 4.49.25.91

Waiting for the miracle....

Giuseppe
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] groovebiscuit:
I have personally given up (for now) trying to figure out exactly what the cause is. For me it's definitely caused by something in Sense 2.5.

I have been using DeepShining's X7 21903 ROM for the past week and a half now. I disabled Sense 2.5 and installed SPB Mobile Shell and I've had no SODs in all that time. I turned Sense 2.5 back on over the weekend just to test it out again and within 30 minutes I had an SOD; back to Mobile Shell again and nothing.

It's a shame because Sense 2.5 is nice, especially with Cookie's Home Tab, but the SODs just kept pissing me off too much to be able to live with them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Giuseppe:
No SOD for me if I close every app. I think it is caused by a lack of CPU or memory resources, causing this "loop". It happened with my old Qtek 2020, but I can't accept it on a 10 year younger device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
To be fair, that's not enough evidence to say it's "definitely" something in 2.5. It might just be some extra resources being used by 2.5, which could be used by another app too and show up the same problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ionut.micu:
I tried to cook my own ROM using sense 2.1, and the last build of windows phone and I experienced SOD.

When I will have a few free time I will try to cook a ROM with sense 2.1 based on the 2.07 ROM and I will report if I will experience SOD.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
My rom as no SOD. SOD as NOTHING to do with with SENSE 2.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bob Simons:
I've had SOD on Sergio's 2.1 ROMS, even with Task 29

I'm using the 6.5.3/Sense 2.1 ROM with no change except the Leo 2G dialer to solve the problem where you can't answer an incoming call. I've flashed it a few times, using Task29 first. I've also gone through using a stock ATT ROM. I've had it happen as quickly as five minutes after hanging up on a call.

I think it's been aboiut seven or eight times over a few months. Been using his 2.1 ROMS the entire time I've seen it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ScooterG:
.

:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] yogam1:
Could it be MyPhone?

Dear All,

I am one of those guys who re-installed the Asia Stock ROM with 2.5 to give it another try and it is nearly a month now with no much complaints of SoD.

I have kept both Twitter and Facebook synchronization setup. But all these days I left MyPhone for manual synchronization. Last week I happened to turn on the scheduled synchronization of MyPhone and faced SoD at least about 3 or 4 times in as many days. Since then I went back to manual synchronization and it is nearly 4 days now and no SoD. Could it be MyPhone with Sense 2.5?

Not sure.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cjm1979:
Ive had sod's on your recent 2.5 6.5 roms Sergio. I never posted in the thread though as ive had it had it on all roms since the 2.5 official came out for the Rhodium. Yours,Arks (worst for sods) and Dotcomps and official Htc. The only one that i might not had one on is Nrgz.

Task 29 as done nothing at all on mine to stop this either but that is not to say that it is not still a useful tool.

Also ive never had one on any 2.1 rom, ever.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cjm1979:
Suppose its possible because ive always got it set to sync auto. Ill turn off auto for a while and see. In fact at the moment im using Dotcomps 5th may 21903 and i might get 1 or 2 sods pw. I synced myphone this morning and within an hour had one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] slipin3:
Im using Deepshining x7 23569 rom and before i flashed i ran task 29 flashed new radio .91 then the rom and i have all my updates set as manual. i do have my weather tab and "my phone" backup auto updateing and i have not had an SOD in about 2.5 weeks. so i think its def something with the device in suspend and it waking to its updates and it not kicking back to wake for use after the update is done.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tinpanalley:
Deleting...Wrong thread...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MauriceA:
Advise HTC: go back to previous ROM

:confused:

I decided to contact HTC Support because of the SOD on my TP2.

First reply was about deleting SMS history and phone logs. After stating that these were nearly empty because of the ROM upgrade, it went silent.

Finally after reminding the open support question I got the following answer (translated out of Dutch):

"We are investigating the cause of the problem at the moment. Meanwhile we advise to go back to the previous rom."

I seems that HTC acknowledges the problem...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] antoine_32:
Yesterday I got the SOD, I removed the SD card and inserted it again, it worked without doing a soft-reset but i havent got the SOD today so I cant be completly sure if this really work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chazco:
I also contacted HTC support about this issue. The first reply was that it was a hardware issue and I needed to send the phone for repairs. After pointing out that returning to the old 6.5 ROM fixes the issues they eventually told me to check the website for the latest updates.

I'd advise anyone who has had this problem to report it to HTC - hopefully then they'll realise it's a major problem and issue a fix.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aiiee:
Thread you point to denies that it is SOD fix. And you should probably mention somewhere for us coming in from Google, that task29 is only for GSM phones, NOT CDMA :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stunt77:
posted in error
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Toprawmen:
I'm pretty new to these terms, with cooking and I don't know how to reinstall a new radio. But I have SOD on my HD2 with Android 2.2 and its driving me nuts. I'll stand by for some lameman's terms. Should I boot in WIMMobile or Android to make settings changes?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] the show stopper:
i still have this issue that's why i have installed screen off so i don't touch the power button :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mad Marc:
I'm running DeepShining X11 latest version for some days now. It is delivered without any Taskmanager like MM or Arkswitch and since that change in the ROM I had no SOD. Before I had between 2 and 5 SOD per day.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aijalon:
i had this problem 4 the longest but i found the answer if u als run android u must enable "post andriod auto-backlight" it will completly fix the problem
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jcxtreme30:
:)This is common cause most chefs dont do builds based on stability and to be honest most dont even own the handset they are building roms 4...... Use Jacko's S2 roms If you want stabilty and speed Ive seen no one else in the past 3 years that has put the effort into there roms and verification on the actual handset "in this case the TP2" like Jacko's.

Big props Brother!!:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GSM4ever:
That's weird, I've had my phone for like a month now. & I flashed to a EnergyRom and I haven't had any freezes or SOD's at all. Hard reset brah
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vmgspm:
I thought that I had SOD today on my Nexus one running gingerbread. I had all the symptoms including 100% cpu and only back lights when trying to wake up from sleep. After many reboots I noticed that my SD apps were missing. I replaced the card and now my phone is back to normal.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1milenia:
im running deepshinings latest sense with no sods

i think its when you have programs which update frequently
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ashmont:
I deliberated for ages whether to buy a Touch Pro2 last September. I wondered whether an HD2 wouldn't have been a better choice but the keyboard clinched the TP2 for me. I'm now seriously regretting my decision as I keep getting SODs albeit only every few days.

My TP2 came with the Sense 2.5 ROM installed and the photos on the box had Sense 2.5 running on the screen. I like the look of Sense 2.5 but the performance of HTC messaging and calendar is woeful. I can live with these but the SODs are really annoying and in my view utterly unacceptable. You go to check something on your phone and it doesn't switch on.

I've sent my phone back to HTC for repairs twice already. The first time they seemed replace the main board, buttons etc but still the problem occurred. The second time it came back they said no fault found. To humour them I hard reset the phone and tried to limit software I installed to fairly safe things e.g. Mobireader, games etc and not things which played about with Sense. For a week things were fine and then one morning the phone had an orange charge light despite being charged all night - SOD! Later that same day it happened again while out and about. A couple of days later it happened again just lying on my chest of drawers only an hour after being used ok.

I've arranged for HTC to repair phone a third time. The chap I spoke to said that they hadn't had many cases of this problem but it appears reading this thread that it is quite common. I'm not optimistic that HTC will fix the problem and I don't know what they will do if I ring them a fourth time. However I shall try the disabling of auto power off after x minutes and disabling auto update of My Phone when it comes back.

It's so annoying that we have to put up with this sort of thing on such a high end phone. I'm starting to wish I'd bought that iPhone 4, Nokia E72, [insert your favourite non-WM substitute here]
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Major A:
You have microSD inserted daily ? You tried with nothing in the slot during some time ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1milenia:
dont feel so bad my wifes hd2 sods all the time ...she end up using my tp2 for task
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] slapshot30:
I kept having SOD issues with deepshining and only deepshining on my tilt2. Three straight sense roms. Formatting didn't help. The only extra program I installed was the keyboard fix. It was so annoying sometimes I felt like chucking my phone across the room lol. Switched to energy and haven't had an issue since. I still want to switch back to deepshining though, just scared of those SOD's.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] toadlife:
The SOD is caused by drivers in the HTC 2.07.401.1 ROM. I was finally able to solve this in my ROM by using most of the drivers from the newest Tilt2 (2.10.502.4) ROM. The Deepshining ROMs you like were/are probably still using the drivers from the 2.07.401.1 ROM and the energy ROM has integrated the drivers from the 2.10.502.4 ROM.

There is no way to fix the Deepshining ROM aside from recooking them with the newer drivers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] slapshot30:
Thanks, I wasn't sure why they were happening but I had just had to move away from deepshining. I am now using energy (good battery life, but i don't use most of the programs and it can be a bit buggy). I think I might try out Nega's WP7 ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I cannot agree with this. I'm using 2.07 drivers too - no SoD at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] toadlife:
It must be a combination of certain hardware and drivers. All I know is that before I switched from the 2.07 drivers I had SOD problems constantly and since switching to the tilt2 ROM drivers way back on August of last year I have never had one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] toadlife:
Maybe you could try Jackos' ROM, since he says he's had no SOD issues and uses the 2.07 drivers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Strange :) The SoD problems always where tricky.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dust906:
SOD

i think thats where my problem is
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dust906:
i use your rom , and i get SOD all the time

i removed proximity locker and it now SOD's 50% less lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 1milenia:
i was using deepshinig rom also with no ill effect

im using negs wp7 which is simply amazingly faster than a droid

but do some adapting

like resco contacts and a few minor things

and you have a ton of memory

its going to be hard to go back to sense

i do recomend deepshing ..

i thik when you overload some of these rom they just freeze
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ashmont:
Still no joy

It came back the third time with "No fault found" and I sent it in a fourth time and they didn't seem to do anything. I told HTC that I didn't think it was a hardware issue but they kept taking it in for repairs. One thing I discovered this morning that if I enabled Facebook updates it seems to generate the SOD fairly predictably. I've disabled them and will see if it still occurs. Maybe I'll just have to go back to a Sense 2.1 ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dust906:
had that similar problem

turns out i had a faulty battery that was causing the screen to turn off constantly
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] faria:
Awhile back is was well known in the dev comunity that htc sense facebook did generate Sods.

I can confirm this even with my roms.

make sure you set facebook updates to manual.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
OK guys, here is a official fix for SoD that I have prepared for ya.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1027388