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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] itm:
I'm going to Vegas next week and would really like to have a city map on my phone. Does anyone know of a free source of city maps which look good on the TP2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kierandill:
Something other than Google Maps? I mean what more would you want besides maps, aerial photos, the ability to search for points of interest? Show my location, show on the map all of a certain category near my location. You might find something else, but you won't find something better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] itm:
The only problem with Google Maps is the need for a data connection. With the ludicrous cost of US data roaming I was planning to avoid it!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kierandill:
Since I assume you know you will be roaming, you are stuck with buying (or getting pirated) a GPS program. I have both Garmin and iGo and they both look/work fine. iGo has a 3D mode with 3D wireframe buildings, if that sounds exciting, with substantial detail in Vegas (just brought it up and "drove" in front of the Luxor).
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itaysk:
Hi,

Anyone knows how to push folders from Exchange Other that the Inbox folder?

(Using HTC mail)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fred Doolie:
Mods, I have a Touch Pro. If this post applies to HTCs in general then please move it.

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Here's my little effort to help.

I've been screwing with my TP and wanted to get it factory clean so I did the ##786# thing to get it back to pure factory settings. While doing the automagic setup it kept getting 1012 errors. Then I noticed what it was doing:

1) Only one bar of signal on the data indicator.

2) Bounces to three but goes back to one.

3) Data arrows blinking (I've never seen that before!) instead of staying on steadily.

4) Indicator going "EV"...."1X"

5) Then it would 1012 on me.

The Living Room is a semi-dead spot for signal. Took it in the bedroom where data signal is better and got three bars (still 1X though :(). Held it out the window and got four bars. Turned it off, turned it back on, it did the automagic setup and all's well.

I guess 1012 just means it can't get a good data lock into Sprint's servers.
[HD2 General] Sherbet66:
I was having some setup issues with Gmail pop; I’ve found a workaround so thought I’d share it.

I like to check my email regularly with the HD2 throughout the day, but manage the majority of these through Outlook when I get home. So on my HD2 I set up a pop mail account to check my Gmail at regular intervals (5 mins), get the entire message but leave a copy of the message on the server so I can still access these with Outlook later.

Problem was whenever the HD2 downloaded an email despite the setup being configured to leave the message on the server these mails were marked “as read” by Gmail and archived, presumably because my Gmail account was set to “archive emails that have been accessed through pop”. This was clearly overriding the “leave a copy on the server” setting. So I’d get an email on my device, this was then automatically removed from the Gmail inbox and archived, 5 minutes later the HD2 would check again, see the inbox was empty and therefore delete the email from my device. Outlook never got a look in as when I got home all the emails had been archived so it was seeing no emails at all.

Hence the disappearing email problem.

Firstly I tried changing the Gmail setting to “keep Google mails copy in the inbox when it had been accessed by pop”, this worked to a degree but I found it slightly irritating having to go in and manually erase all the emails in my Gmail inbox once I had downloaded them.

I then tried enabling imap in Gmail and binning pop access altogether, i.e., accessing all my emails through imap both on the HD2 and on Outlook. Again this worked to a degree but I have Outlook set up a particular way and I found that imap didn’t really work for me in that regard.

Eventually I sussed getting it to work the way I want, I set up both pop and imap access in Gmail. I had the HD2 accessing mails through imap, and Outlook accessing through pop (with the setting for ” archiving emails once accessed through pop” enabled in Gmail). So the HD2 would accrue all the emails that I received throughout the day and keep these in the Gmail inbox so when I fired up Outlook at home these were still there to be downloaded. Of course once I had retrieved these emails through Outlook these were automatically archived by Gmail and only then were they removed from the HD2 then next time it checked the server, which was fine as they had been dealt with and were no longer required, perfect!

So that’s been my weekend really, hope it helps anyone that wants a similar setup.
[HD2 General] dameon12:
POP is the wrong method for your interest.

POP catches the mails from your server and deletes em from it.

You only need to use IMAP method to leave a copy on the server.

Just that easy.

You could have saved a lot time if you only setup imap in your email settings in the phone.

All other stuff was completely too much. Sorry :)

Im using that method since i had the Touch HD and still use it with Gmail on the HD2 and my mails stay on the huuuuuuge google servers too.
[HD2 General] Sherbet66:
Undoubtedly imap has its advantages, certainly on the phone its working well for me.

You did raise a point:

"POP catches the mails from your server and deletes em from it"

Should this happen when the you have set-up an account on the device thats configured to "do not delete messages from the server"? Because despite my account being set-up this way my emails were being deleted (or archived, either way, disappeared!) nevertheless. That's specifically why i wanted to detail why I did what I did as I'm sure this issue could catch other people out.
[HD2 General] dameon12:
POP is designed to catch mails AND clean up your email account on the server.

This makes sense when you have limited storage space (i have an arcor account too and have only 25mb on there).

From my knowledge the client and server must support the "leave emails on server".

Look in desktop Outlook you have the opportunity to check a box with this option.

In our pda version of outlook we dont have that option.

This is mostly the reason that the emails get deleted when using POP.

IMAP is designed to give you the opportunity to have a look at your emails like on the server.

When you read an email on your pda the mail will be automatically flagged as read on the server too.

It is some kind of sync.

There are these two well known ways just to give you the opportunity and fulfil your needs. Just use the one that serves you well.

In your case this will be IMAP :)
[HD2 General] Sherbet66:
"From my knowledge the client and server must support the "leave emails on server".

Look in desktop Outlook you have the opportunity to check a box with this option.

In our pda version of outlook we dont have that option"

When i was setting up the account on the HD2 I was ticking this option to leave message on server upon deletion (see screen shot), although it seems i was misunderstanding this function.
[HD2 General] dameon12:
Yeah the function you checked was only for the deleted mails.

It just tells the server what to do with the mails that you deleted on your device.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Sounds good, I'd just replace imap access on the HD2 with activesync, even better.

I'm interested in what your "weird configuration in outlook that makes you not able to use imap" is though.
[HD2 General] aoch88:
I don't need it and it's annoying to manually clean up all the time. Someone help?
[Desire General] vegetaleb:
By browsing the different topics here and there I came to a cnclusion that we have now several release dates :eek:

So we have now:

-24th March

-26th March

-31th March

-1st April

-5th April

-6th April

-13th april

It seems that first countries to get it will be UK,France and Netherland and the last countries to get it will be Asian ones(protecting N1 sales?), passing by the Middle East right in the middle. But the most probable dates are 1st and 6th March which have been observed in amazon and expansys. Leaking Desires like the Legend could happen next week
[Desire General] lukaswat:
My shop has 9th of April as delivery date for a month now. (Netherlands)
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
http://desirehtc.com/

It's an official site from HTC and aswell as that, it knows your location (for me is counting down to 1st April).

I think unlocked handsets will be avaliable 1st April.
[Desire General] n-j-f:
Says the same for me. I hope it's not an April Fool. :)
[Desire General] mroek:
The countdown is independent of your location, it counts down to April 1st for everyone. If you click on the pre-register button you are sent to UK operators it seems, so it would be fair to assume that the countdown is for the UK release date.

I'm in Norway, and it seems we have to wait a few more days. Distributors seems to have a delivery date of April 8th here. Unfortunately...
[Desire General] n-j-f:
It did say London for me on the home page. Not sure how it knew that. Also the local temperature. What did it say for you?
[Desire General] brummiesteven:
The original site said Birmingham but now they've gone and updated it I just get London.

It's probably getting your location from your IP Address.
[Desire General] vegetaleb:
Are you sure?

I think only the weather app is working with the ip, it gives me Beirut but like all the others the launch date is set to 1st April and the pre-order page is for UK shops
[Desire General] n-j-f:
Anyone dealt with HTC Direct? They are showing the Desire at £386.95 incl VAT http://www.htcdirect.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=789. It does say price is still to be confirmed but it took an order from me and the number available went down by 1.

Sounds a bit too good to be true but I paid by credit card for the security.

Website didn't say when they charge the card. I'm going to phone them tomorrow to see how they sound.

Done a whois and also checked that the VAT number check digits are correct so seems a legitimate business but are they any good?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
This is my first attempt at cooking a ROM, driven by the desire to fix the HTC messaging application. Therefore, there may be some imperfections but it works for me! Thanks go out to the OSKitchen and many threads on here about cooking.

This ROM is built from the official 2.53 ROM but with Manila from the Touch Pro 2. Someone decided to write that version of Manila to use the WM messaging with the Sense 2.1 style messaging interface :) Arcsoft MMS is cooked in for MMS functionality. The SMSRetry service is included so messages can sent without coverage with the phone sending when coverage is found.

Pagepool is set at 20MB as this seems to produce a very smooth ROM. Although not cooked in, I've used TD2 Tools 3 to increase file system caches, graphics caches and several other tweaks and it is now very smooth!

Disclaimer:

You already know this but.. I'm not responsible for bricking any device, data loss or anything terrible happening. It hasn't bricked my device after several tries.

Notes:

I would set your radio band from Auto to your regonal settings (GSM 900/1800 3G 900/2100 in UK) as it seems to lower battery use,

When using COM5 (6.5.5) I recommend MMTaskmanager.

COM2 Branch:

Download Link: Here!

Password: xda

OS 5.2.21887 (21887.5.0.86)

Manila 2.5.20113030.0

Comments: Reverted back to Topaz shipped Manila, Finally fixed T9 new words issue :) Cool rotating effects on music and photos enabled. Battery life back to good levels for me (Radio 4.49.25.91) Advise a hard reset immediately after flashing. Says BETA, but definitely more final :)

COM5 Branch (Beta 2):

Post is: here (Download link broke it seems, now working)

OS 5.2.23563

Manila 2.5.20113030.0

Comments: Been playing with 6.5.5 :) This is beta so expect bugs / crashes / glitches although I find it rather stable with day to day use. This has been my day to day release since cooking (middle of April)

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
version

Can u enter the version of Manila, OS, etc you've used in this rom...

Greetz
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Wow, I didn't realize that I am that famous already.

Downloaded it, check:

[URL="http://www.htc-topaz.co.cc/diskstation.html"]BeeGee's Disk Station (faster)[/URL] User [I][COLOR="Red"]xda[/COLOR][/I] Password [I][COLOR="Red"]xda[/COLOR][/I] =>Cooked_ROMs=>WM6.5=>craiglay
[URL="http://wwww.htc-topaz.co.cc/website.html"]Topaz File Mirror (HTTP access)[/URL] =>Cooked_ROMs=>WM6.5=>craiglay
[URL="ftp://ftp.giesecke.tk"]FTP access[/URL] User [I][COLOR="Red"]xda[/COLOR][/I] Password [I][COLOR="Red"]xda[/COLOR][/I] =>Cooked_ROMs=>WM6.5=>craiglay
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] yoppie79:
Conratulatiion

Conratulion with your newrom, i think it is more nice if you post with screen shot, thx
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Stock 2.53 ROM has OS 5.2.21887 build, Manila 2.5.20121324.1
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
Updated with OS and Manila versions.

Thanks BeeGee, your mirror has proved invaluable as HTC, Rapidshare, etc always seems to fail just as I want to download a ROM.

Will try to post some screenshots later (prob tomorrow now) but it really is just stock Windows 6.5 / Manila 2.5 but with 2.1 style messaging (and WM messaging of course). I haven't changed any styling.

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
Stock ROM with updated OS and Manila ? Exellent, but official have 21887 bulid , not 21877... Question: Have Manila 2.5.20121331.0 or 2.5.20121324.1 like write in first post ? Have it Recent Document Tab on Manila Home Today ? Because for me docu is very important...

Thanks

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
The first post is correct, its 21887 and it has Manila 2.5.20121324.1 BeeGee's post was before I posted the OS and Manila ver.

No, it hasn't got the Document tab i'm afraid.. I think it can be added through a cab though.. [EDIT] Have a read through this.. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Manila%20Tutorial%20Two

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] monsoon78:
Hi Craig,

I have flashed your ROM. It looks good so far. Original Windows Mobile messaging works great.

Otherwise, it looks pretty the same as recently published original HTC ROM with Sense 2.5. There is also missng HTC task manager button on Today's screen. But I have installed attached cab and it is patched now.

In general, it seems to be a good piece of work and great idea to bypass original HTC messaging. I

Many thanks.

Monsoon
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
Thanks Monsoon78, finally Sense 2.5 on our Topaz is usable!

Yeah, i've installed the task manager is on my device too, quite why they left it out i don't know.. I shall hopefully post some useful cabs this evening (as well as some screenshots!).

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] PES13:
I'm using a french HTC 6.5 sense 2.5 rom, have you a fix for MS SMS and T9 ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
No, I'm afraid it had to be cooked into the rom. I don't think it can be made into a cab.

I haven't worked out the T9 words issue yet..

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cryst_666:
I was looking for a stock Rom with WM messaging for a long time :D I was considering to cook one but time isn't too much :mad:

Many many thanks craiglay :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
Interesting issue, My service provider, O2 UK was blocking some of my MMS being sent to my phone, giving me a message that I cannot receive that type of MMS. Turns out this is a size issue, I could send / receive small MMS!

Turns out this is due to my provider not recognising my phone and sending it as basic as possible (compatibility mode) Quote: Here from O2 Forum

A Google search shows that setting it to an N95 seems to fix it. Quote: Here, with solution

So, in a registry editor:

HKLM \ SOFTWARE \ Arcsoft \ Arcsoft MMS UA \ Config \ mm1 \ WspHeader

User-Agent: NokiaN95/11.0.026; Series60/3.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1

x-wap-profile: "http://nds1.nds.nokia.com/uaprof/NN95-1r100.xml"

and all is good!!

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] TurtleTech:
Can't believe this thread only has 2 pages. Doesn't everyone using 2.5 currently affected? Is this the best solution craig?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
I know, maybe everyone just lives with 2.5 style messaging or the various cab hacks. I also believe several other ROM's have integrated 2.1 messaging (EnergyRom is one I believe) but they are heavily customised to the author. I prefer to start with a pretty standard ROM and customise it to my liking.

Its really just a personal project that I've shared with the community. I customise it further myself.

Regarding the best solution, I don't know. I would prefer the HTC Messaging application over WM messaging but I personally can not live with the lagging. The cab hacks work, but from experience can have notification / SMS bubble issues. The Manila version here has been written (by HTC or OEM) to use WM messaging natively which is what makes it different.

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] monsoon78:
Hi,

I just wanted to add my experience with Craiglay's ROM. The stability seems to be good. After 5 days of testing, I haven't encountered any major issues except the one, which is common to last official HTC ROM. This ROM has PAGE POOL 20 MB which seems to improve the performance compared to official HTC release. Battery drain is not bad. I am quite addicted to the phone, so one may can achieve even better results. I use lot of email synchronization, RSS channels and have 3G enabled. My battery runs out in about 36 hours. One important remark, I run it with radio 4.49.25.17

With regards to the bugs, as Craiglay has already indicated in the post #1, there is an issue with T9 dictionary, because new words are neither permanently stored in the memory, nor they are inserted into to the text, when you add them manually. This is a bit annoying since you need to retype the word once again and teach the dictionary all the time, when you reboot the device. I wonder if there is any solution for this bug ?

Inspite of this bug, I plan to stay with this ROM.

Thanks.

Radim
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
Thanks for the review Monsoon78! I run it with Radio 4.49.25.91 which works well.

Unfortunately I have been unable to sort out the T9 issue :( I've tried a few different versions and the suggestions Here but still looking into it.

I have however an updated ROM with Manila 2012.1412 with Sense 2.1 / WM messaging. It also includes the Document and ereader tabs, no Sprint branding and cool animated rotating effects in Albums and Music.

If testing goes ok over the weekend, i'll upload the ROM soon.

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lordsinasina:
i was going to use this rom , and u made me wait longer :D.looking forward for this new rom. i just have one question : does manila on this rom have weather animation on home screen ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
Cool!! Unfortunately I've dropped the eReader, Document tab and Footprints as there were too many issues and battery drain was HUGE!! You could still hack in the tabs if you really want them with the link i posted above.

New Manila 2012.1412 is still there and Photo's and Music cool animation is still in. Will test for a few days and see how it goes.

Sorry for the delay!! Please appreciate I want to release something good with few bugs!

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lordsinasina:
i myself find ereader , doc and footprint tab useless.they just want to make sense more fancy ! so dont bother yourself with them.;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
Release 2 on first post. Manila 2.5.20121412 with Ereader, doc tab, and footprint tab removed. Enabled the cool rotating photos and music tab :) Cant remember if I switched it on but its just some reg changes now. Some minor tweaks but still pretty stock.

Seems to be running fine, but haven't properly tested battery life. If you have problems, please let me know..

Password on zip is "xda", sorry its on RS!

Thanks

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] monsoon78:
Craig,

what about T9 messaging bug ? Have you managed to fix it or is there any progress ?

Thanks.

Monsoon
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
T9 is still not sorted, i've tried a few things as suggested in here but searching for the issue doesn't suggest very much.. gonna try a few more things.

I hope to get it sorted soon as its really annoying me!

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] plex12345:
good rom but i need a task manager what do you recommend guys?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] monsoon78:
Please see my post #9. There is HTC default one.

M.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lordsinasina:
Thanx man.i was waiting for this.but one question : are these cool rotating effects the same as we saw on hd2 roms before ? or they are new and more fast for topaz ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lordsinasina:
and i have a suggestion . would u mind make 6.5.x rom with sense 2.1 style messaging ? because i found your tweak the most bugless one against the others
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
I think they are the same as on the HD2 but have just cooked a new ROM with our original Manila 2011.3030. Yes they are a little laggy, its going to be personal preference as to whether thats acceptable. I think photo's are ok, but music is a bit more laggy. Its easy to disable if you dont want them.

I have had a thought and a play with the 6.5.x ROM's and although they are very impressive, i'm not sure they're ready for general release. I'd rather have a rock solid stable ROM so am sticking with 6.5. QBUS makes a very good 6.5.x ROM with 2.1 messaging if you want to have a play.

Ps, I'm gonna upload another ROM in the next day or so to address the battery concerns of release 2

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tinox.:
Can you please give instructions on how to install this rom? its in NBH format. I would really appreciate it
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
Easiest way to flash this is with an SD card.

1. Ensure NBH file is called TOPAIMG.NBH and copy to root of SD card

2. Enter bootloader (tri-colour screen) by pressing power + volume down when phone is off

3. Follow instructions on bootloader

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jcamacho14:
Hi craiglay!

I just wanna say Thank you!!! I don't use Sense 2.5 because of the Messaging, so I was looking for something like this. I will try your ROM right now. I just wanna know which of the 2 is better in battery life and speed?

Thanks again.... :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] plex12345:
hi man thanks for the rom but i think battery drains faster can you check on that! thanks:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
Hi

jcamacho14: I'd say neither, I have a ROM i'm currently testing which I would wait out for, if you really can't wait, release 1 has better speed and battery life.. I hope to upload my ROM soon.

plex12345: Yeah, that version of Manila seems to consume CPU time when it shouldn't which increases battery drain. The ROM i'm currently testing is much better. Again, I hope to upload my ROM soon.

Loosing T9 added words after a soft reset is still an issue :mad:

Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] craiglay:
Release 3 is up, More final than beta as suggested in the title!

Reverted Manila to shipped Topaz 2.5.2011.3030.0

Fixed T9 add words not being saved :)

Battery drain is now good.

Ps, if you haven't noticed, there is an SMS retry service so if a message cannot be sent, you will get a "cannot be sent" message, just close this and the txt will send when your next in signal :)

Craig
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lordsinasina:
You are making a series of roms that make me just look for new ones in THIS thread and nowhere else :D. just to be clear.what do u think has remained to make this series FINAL ?