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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DJHile:
When I get to the Tri-Color bootloader screen it just flickers white, says something very quick, then goes back to the Tri-Color Screen and says:

KAIS1*0

SPL-3.34.hard

CPLD-8

Then at the bottom in a white box it says "USB". There is no USB plugged in at all.

Whats the deal?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
Anyone else have a hard time booting into Android with NAND setup? Sometimes, when I restart, I see the boot screen but it doesn't switch to the Android text.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Yes. Did you install the BT_UPDATE? Mine never boots after I do that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
My problem is that it sometimes boots into Android text, and sometimes it doesn't. I tried BT_UDATE and that ****ed it up completely, though someone told me to fix permissions or something.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Dunno about you guys, but whenever I install an update I got a ritual, goes like this....

1. prep sd card, put androidupdate.tar in andboot folder.

2. power off phone, insert sd card, power on, wait for 'press dpad for installer'

3. enter installer, install update, fix permissions, clear dalvik cache, quit.

4. boot phone to android, leave it for 5 minutes, use as normal.

Ok so maybe some of it's a little on the cautious side, but seriously, I don't seem to have as many problems that way, also remember, it's still very much beta, and anything you can do to keep the install/update process a slow and careful one has got to be good for the phone, and your blood pressure ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
my ritual goes fix, clear, update,fix, quit.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] One Hype:
So guys my Tilt has been unusable for two weeks now since no one has tried to really help me fix it. If anyone could help me that would be great. I'll even be happy just getting back to Win Mo, since I can't even get Android to work at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Check this page: http://xdaforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=5956876

Have you tried the steps described under "5. Download and Flash your Prefered Rom"->"Flashing Via MicroSD Card"?

That should hopefully help you restore Windows Mobile.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] One Hype:
Yes I have. Over a thousand times, and I can't get into the bootloader. It shows the white screen flashes a messages for 0.5 seconds, then quits it. I can't restore via USB because it's kinda broken. I can try, but it only works every now and then. I don't know what else to do right now that I can't even get back to Win Mo and my device is useless.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
My guess is that your HardSPL somehow fails when accessing the SD-card. Try reformatting the SD-card and also, if possible, try using another card.

For formatting SD-cards I recommend the Panasonic SD-formatter. I'm using version 2.0: http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
I ran into a similar situation and my solution was to flash back to an original rom. You have a ATT Tilt, then download the original ATT rom, and extract the *.nbh file from it. Rename it to KAISimg.nbh and stick it onto a formatted SD card. Put KAISDIAG.NBH onto it as well, though I don't think you really need it, but just in case.

Hold the Camera button and power button and press reset. Wait for it to flash, and hopefully you're good as new.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
If your phone won't boot properly, then something is messed up in the bootloader, or something messed up somewhere in the 'basic system'. That doesn't mean your phone is junk, it just means you need to take some very specific steps to fix it.

First download THIS file. I created it, but not the files in it. It has two files in it. One is an nbh that fixes your bootloader, and the second one puts your phone to what I consider the perfect windows for either booting haret, or going to nand. It has the radio that I recommend too :)

Next, format your SDcard using an XP or Win7 machine. Screw Vista. After that, add the KAISIMG.NBH file from the attachment to the sdcard using your laptop or whatever.

Now, take the battery out of your phone. Insert your SDcard, and put battery back in the phone.

Press power and camera at the same time. You should get the tri color. Press the power button to update hardspl. When finished, take out the battery.

Take out the SD card, put it back in the laptop, and format it again. Now this time, put the fixphone.nbh file onto the SDcard, and rename it KAISIMG.NBH.

Take the battery out of your phone, insert your SDcard, and put the battery back in the phone

Press power and camera at the same time. You should get the tri color. Press the power button to update hardspl. When finished, take out the battery.

Boot back into winmobile. If this doesn't work, then let me know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] One Hype:
Thanks a ton! I will try this and let you know if it works or not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] One Hype:
Thanks again, but unfortunately I still can't get in the bootloader to flash this. I bet it works, but I unfortunately can't even get it to flash. Do you have any ideas around this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Have you tried this information regarding JumpSPL?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=354061

I know you can't boot to windows, but it might send you down the right path.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thewooleymammoth:
Install fails i think?

I have followed the guide to the last step. and select install system and it scrolls trhough some text then returns me to the menu screen (selecting options and install).

Is this happening because the installation is failing?

i see in the text scrolling by something like

chown: /system/bin failed no such directory (something like that.)

several times

here is the bootlog that i noticed is now in the andboot directory

** /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

** Phase 1 - Read and Compare FATs

Attempting to allocate 978 KB for FAT

Attempting to allocate 978 KB for FAT

** Phase 2 - Check Cluster Chains

** Phase 3 - Checking Directories

** Phase 4 - Checking for Lost Files

Free space in FSInfo block (232424) not correct (232430)

Fix? yes

Next free cluster in FSInfo block (18037) not free

Fix? yes

6 files, 929720 free (232430 clusters)

Formatting...

Installing...

Android Installed

Fixing Permissions on files

chown: /data/app_s: No such file or directory

chmod: /data/app_s: No such file or directory

chown: /system/bin/su: No such file or directory

chmod: /system/bin/su: No such file or directory

chown: /system/init: No such file or directory

chmod: /system/init: No such file or directory

sh: 0: unknown operand

mount: mounting /data/sysfiles/su on /system/bin/su failed: No such file or directory

can anyone help with this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
No,thats all perfectly normal, once you return to the installer screen, choose quit, and it'll boot android ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thewooleymammoth:
ooook thanks. yep, i assumed after it was done installing it would boot but it brings you back to that screen and select quit to get it to go.

I was confused because the quit step was not mentioned and i assumed it was failing at install.

I guess im just a bigger dumby dumb than i thought :(.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Who posted no to my poll? Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
It's not an obvious step for anyone not used to flashing this way, as winmo users we were used to just flashing and having everything done for us ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thewooleymammoth:
mmmm

i have the tilt

do i need to reinstall the system if i just want to try panel 2 instead of 3 or can i just flash and let it boot?

it seems like when i do that it just gets hung at android.

also can anyone explain the difference between the panel types?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
It should just be a case of flash and reboot.

However to be safe it's best to flash, pull the battery and then restart.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
I even can't get wifi on with mssmisoneclair7 (all zImages) on SD partitions, so how easy can it be to flash? It's so diffucult to have a working install, flashing isn't that difficult like finding the right install files.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
Did you try the exact steps I posted?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doctor_cleveland_MD:
really helpful

Hi! I really appreciate Zenity's reply to thewamoooty question... initially thought that it didnt install but dumb me, just need to choose quit and everything works out fine!

Just got some dumb questions again:

1. is there a sync software of droid for Windows 7, and use my USB cable?

2. how do i sync my MS Outlook contacts to my Droid HTC TyTN II via USB?

3. im worried that when my battery runs out, all data will be lost; i did NAND option; but when i restart the phone/remove battery, it goes back to the initial step: need to hold the D-pad button, choose *NAND, save *NAND, clear all data; [YES] [YES]

what option should i chooose if i have setup my Droid phone during a restart?

thats all folks for now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
To answer your questions:

1: Android doesn't sync windows, it syncs the 'cloud'. There might be something specific out there however that does this. You can do it manually by outputting a CSV file from outlook, and import it using android. Quicker fix: use gmail.

2: You aren't going to sync outlook contacts with android, but you can import them. Again, i'm sure theres something out there, but it doesn't do it right out of the box. See answer 1.

3: Data won't be lost. When the button push gets asked, just ignore it. It will boot then.

Oh, and FYI your phone will run faster if you pull the battery out of it when you need to do a soft reset. Pushing the stylus for some reason doesn't reset right.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thewooleymammoth:
that is good to know, i was wondering if that was the case this morning.

It always works better if i pull the battery

also is anyone getting any coloring issues? my phone works great with panel 1 but its like its using 16 bit colors on certain icons/images. Maybe its just me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Normally issues with screen coloration are panel type issues, try flashing another panel type.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Of course it did.. If your sig is correct, you've ignored the instructions to update your radio. The old 1.65 radio is NOT supported. You need the 1.71.09.01 radio.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
My original instructions called for not updating the radio.

This thread is not relevant to anything anymore.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doctor_cleveland_MD:
Thanks for the reply! made a CSV and imported to GMail.

bigger problem now: i can make a phone call, but i cant hear anything? any solutions? thanks!

bluetooth and camera isnt working either, but not that important as of now

where do i surf for the best softwares/apps? ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hoatienii:
What build you use? ( poly 2.1 or warm donut)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doctor_cleveland_MD:
i am using the eclair from the first page; but im using the radio 1.70? should i go to 1.65? im ok if gps, bluetooth and camera is not available. as long as its stable, i usually text a lot--so something that i can backup my contacts and messages

thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
polymod 2.1g is pretty stable now, I have been using it on my main kaiser for over 6 weeks now, it does have it's little 'quirks', but overall I find it nice and stable if set up properly.

If you don't need camera BT gps or wifi fully functional, polymod is a good build, Myn's warm donut is also well supported and stable.

The jury is still out as far as radio versions are concerned, some advocate 1.71.09.01, some say they have better results with older versions, basically, whatever works best for you in winmo may work best in android....

Best advice is, try running from SD card for a while, get used to it, then once you are comfortable go for nand flash :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thewooleymammoth:
I switched to warm donut and i had alot less problems. also bluetooth and wifi are working for it (i dont remember if they were on polymod)

Thanks for whoever suggested that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Kurt Cobain:
Help me plz, I flash my Kaiser, and after the boot menu that have Install system, Fix permission, etc,... I choose Install system, but after a lot of text, it return to that menu again. Btw, I flash using mssmisioneclair file androidinstall.tar
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
After it returns to that menu, choose quit, that will quit the installer and continue booting android
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Kurt Cobain:
Thank you, I flash my Kaiser now, mssmision works fine. Now I have one question, would you please instruct me how to install Apps2sd. I have a 2gb card, with a 1.5gb fat32 and 0.5gb ext2. I have chosen to install data to ext2 when flashing but it seem did not work for me as the data still stay in internal memory.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kaiserII101:
Ok. So I did everything but I'm having an issue and I'm pretty sure it is nort android's fault nor the paneltype-NBH file. I've tried putting a different NBH file on the root of the SD card (Hyperdragon) but when I go to the bootloader It says serial. Now it can't be the NBH file since I used two and I just re-flashed HardSPL so I'm stuck wondering what it could be?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
are they called kaisimg.nbh or something else? Whichever nbh is called "kaisimg.nbh" is going to get flashed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Two possible causes for this, either the nbh file is wrongly named, ( HAS to be KIASimg.nbh), or the SD card is formatted FAT rather than FAT32, ( if you format in windows check the format type).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pichulec:
KAISimg.nbh ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kaiserII101:
neither. It's named correctly and It is formatted as FAT32.

I've also tried using two different SD cards.

Is it possible I could flash the nbh by leaving the andboot folder on my card but taking off the nbh and instead try to flash it via USB even though we're supposed to use the SD? do you think it still might stop at 100% and then I could take it off the cable?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anagarika:
Have you ever successfully flashed through SD before? Some devices just refuse to do so. I know someone with Hermes that never has the SD method working. Using the same SD card on another Hermes, it worked, so it's the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kaiserII101:
nope sure haven't lol. useless paperweight. -chunks phone-

I think I will use usb cause that method above is almost exactly what I was going to do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kaiserII101:
success is ridiculously close. I'm at the text where it asks to hold the Dpad center to enter the installation screen and yet when I do it won't enter. gonna try mssmison's build tomorrow and see if the .tar works
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kaiserII101:
success is joy :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
If you are getting sucess using the .tar then you may want to try extracting the tar from the tgz on other builds, just for the sake of experimenting, you should not need to reflash if you have the installer working already :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] himalayasplaya:
I am going to follow this guide tonite, but I have a question about saving contacts.

My USB port is damaged and I cannot active sync via USB. I active sync via Bluetooth now, will android/nand allow me to active sync my contacts with bluetooth after I install it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] himalayasplaya:
for step 7 i renamed the file to KAISIMG.nbh instead of KAISimg.nbh in the root of the folder. Other than that, I put the andboot folder (with installandroid.tgz) in the root of the sd card.

I did the sd install, and all the linux text was flying by and then now its stuck on a black screen. I kept pressing the middle button because I wasnt sure when to press it, then it went to this screen:

The top says mount: mounting /data/sysfiles/su on /system/xbin/su failed: No such file or directory

mount: mounting/data/sysfiles/su on /bin/su failed: Invalid argument

mount: mounting /data/sysfiles on /system/etc/ppp failed: No such file or directory

mount:mounting /data/sysfiles on /smodem failed: Invalid argument

ANDROID [ 6.76756

I Init: Unable to open persistent property directory/data property erno:2
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] meazo:
hi..

thank alot for this good thread that may help me to flash android on kaiser

question my kaiser is not AT&T what nbh file i have to use?

second how i can return to widows?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] One Hype:
Same problem here, and no one has helped me fix this. Currently my device is useless, since I can't even get back to Win Mo because the phone won't enter the bootloader screen. So basically, all I can do is hope there is some Android build that will work so my phone is no longer a brick.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] RizwanKhan:
ofcourse you can still go to boatloader. take the battery out. power on the phone with the camera button pressed; viola you are in the bootloader. i have been stuck at that very screen about a 100 times before finally getting Android flashed.

What you have to do:

make sure and i mean MAKE SURE 1000% that the sd card is formatted as FAT32. put the androidinstall.tar in the folder andboot (this should be in root of your sd card). if you are in bootloader reset device else power on device and hold the dpad when android starts pulling a bunch of text on screen.

After you finish installing system. select the quit option from install menu and than wait VERY PATIENTLY, ignore the errors it gives about not being able to find some files ... JUST WAIT PATIENTLY and you will, in about 10 minutes be on the android desktop.

i KNOW IT WILL work because i have been in the same predicment you are over the past 5 days and i finally got it working just an hour ago.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bteljuice:
i followed everything as it should till this step. After i hit install, it keeps going back to this pic(the one on the right).

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e379/james27007/AndroidFaq/InstallMenu7a-1.jpg

I tried once,twice ....5times, and it keeps going back to this step after of 30s of texts (not 10min).

Can anyone help?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xPreSiDenT:
After youve installed, it will come back to this screen. Just hit quit, and it will load android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bteljuice:
Thank you for your kind and quick reply.

after hitting quit, it says,:

"ANDROID

Unable to open persistant property directory /data/property errno: 2"

Did i do anything wrong?

Edit: all i had to do is wait 2min and the STAR showed up. I presumed when it wrote Error that something was wrong. Thanks buddy :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] antelope:
my veryveryveryveryvery strange error!!!!

my kaisar is HTC version and when i run winmo its OK.i have use it for 2years.

now i have a new phone.so i want to try android on kaisai.

1st,i run android on sdcard.its ok.so i want to flash it in the nand.

i download the .nbh on sourceforge.panel2&320,and androidinstall.tar

then flash the nbh in kaisai.it's ok.then reboot it.after a lot of words scoll on screen.hold the d-pad and i got the install menu.then stepbystep.install the system on nand.ok.finished.

then quit.reboot.ok!the android run on kaisai.and just press skip button.and do nothing else for at least 5 mins.then reboot it(i pulled the battery).then reboot.the kaisai DOWN!!!

it stop at the first screen!(the phone's boot screen).i wait 10 minutes,20 mins,30mins,...and nothing.

i change a other nbh,panel 1,panel3,and new hardspl,and new radio,and new card.....every one is the same question.the 1st boot is ok.but the second boot will stop on the first screen.if i hardreset it .it will boot again.but the second...is down....

my hardspl is 3.34 radio is 1.65.24.36 and now i can return to winmo.its ok.

but who can tell me why?

btw:the lasted test i try a 480panel nbh.it's ok!.........but the text it's to blurred.i want to use 320. what is the different in 480 and 320 nbh?

tks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] One Hype:
I have this problem as well and have tried everything. I even mounted the data.img file and it still won't flash. Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xPreSiDenT:
Check out the guide linked in the polymod eclair first post. It has a list of errors with solutions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shar1r:
Error

Same here. I've checked all of the stickies and tutorials and keep getting stuck on the err:2 No matter what I do...

I left it like that all night, came back in the morning and it was still there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] One Hype:
Yup. Done exactly the same to no avail. Yesterday I spent hours going through the android subsection of this forum and still nothing worked. Tried putting a data.img file in the andboot folder since the error I keep getting seems to be stating that the data.img isn't being mounted, based on what I read. This still didn't work. My usb is broken, I mean barely functional. It will maybe since 1/100 times. I don't know how to sync it now though since I have a new computer, a Mac, but with Win 7 as well. If only I could force it to flash back to WinMo via USB, I would have a usable phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Ok if I understand you, you cannot access the bootloader, so even if usb worked you'd still be unable to flash anyway.

What I don't understand is why you are torturing yourself with this, I think you need to consider that if USB is dead, and you cannot flash through SD, then you have major hardware issues that may be causing the problems you are experiencing. I understand that it's hard to let go sometimes, but unless you have some way of accessing the bootloader you are not going to be able to fix this anyway, since most solutions require either flashing WM or using another Android nbh.

Since the USB problem is almost certainly a hardware issue, most likely a broken pin, fractured solder joint, or something similar, the only way to fix that is to disassemble, repair or replace the damaged component, not a job for anyone other than a professional, and as a professional, I can tell you, it's a difficult repair.

Even with working USB, without being able to access the bootloader you're still pretty much screwed.

Bootloader is all, without it I'm afraid you have nowhere to go, at this stage I'd consider selling it for spares, or buy a broken kaiser that has a good mainboard.

Sorry I can't be more constructive, but once the hardware goes, it's a one way trip, modern devices are not designed to be repaired, sure you can replace some of the parts, but once the mainboard goes, it's all downhill.

:(