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[Nexus One General] arkavat:
I never saw Android as a competition to iPhone. There are huge differences between them. To start with, iPhone is a hardware and Android is an OS.

Android is not just targetted towards phone.. but also a more lucrative platform buisness. Android is targeted towards Windows and Linux and not iPhone.

Windows CE and Linux are pretty much the only choice for platforms. Many GPS units, car control systems, Controllers for many equipment etc.. are all Windows CE or custom linux. Android is targeting this market share. Therefore it is not surprising that Android has similiar policies like Win CE and linux to keep the core seperate from UI. Customers can choose their UI to adapt their implimentation. e.g. many of us don't even relaize that our car GPS has windows in it or our routers has linux in it.

Of course there are other advantages of controling a platform. They have been nicely sumarized by paul.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] theherofromdoom:
Gyus I think I broke my phone. I was trying to update my tilt 2 to Max Manila 2.5 - v3.0 (beta), Max Manila 2.5 Ultimate - v2.6 beta, bnm7bnm Manila Sense 2.5 Colored Icons. I was trying to instoll those, now my phone wont load the TF3D. It just go and seys, could'ent luanch TF3D, Loading TF3D, Tap here to launch TF3D. I can still click on stant though and look threw my phone. Sorry guys, any help is apreshated.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5328667#post5328667

trying to do what we I was working on here.

Dose anyone know how I can get my phone back to normal? Thanks guys
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zelendel:
Just uninstall the apps you installed one by one till it comes back up. If that doesnt work there is always a hard reset
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] theherofromdoom:
I got the stock ROM from HTC, just reinstolled it. Lost all my numbers thou but had them on paper so i got lucky. thx though
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zelendel:
NP If you have trouble feel free to send me a pm. Thread closed
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ringolrh:
Just would like to confirm one thing:

After u took photo in landscape then view it through gallery again in landscape position, does d photo fill d whole screen? Or with both left and right side fill with black bar? I meant without zooming or whatever.....just view original.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdwardUong:
Mine would view in landscape mode, but there're still 2 small black bars on sides. It's different than portrait mode.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ringolrh:
Is your photo taken in landscape format? If your photo is taken in portrait format and view in vertical position, u will see two black bar on top and bottom, am I right?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdwardUong:
That's correct, I think because of the menu option is hidden away when you don't use it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ringolrh:
So, I guess it's normal and my phone is not having any problem ;-)
[G1 Android Development] sabin123:
As the Windows Mobile can run Android OS. Is it possible to run the Windows Mobile OS on the Android Mobile.
[G1 Android Development] sourcesociety:
Probably. But probably difficult to accomplish.
[G1 Android Development] adelco93:
why the hell would anyone want that? lol
[G1 Android Development] tehseano:
^^ True that
[G1 Android Development] JKshowman:
for the heck of it????? oh well android has sense and (my opinion) its a beast :D

KING WHERE ARE YOU?????
[G1 Android Development] Alex530:
Flash player.
[G1 Android Development] tehseano:
But the evil outweighs the good. I could goto canada because they have awesome hockey players, but I mean come on, it's canada......
[G1 Android Development] Stevenjcarney:
I laughed. That's a great line.
[G1 Android Development] Zoltair Wright:
Oh, Canada. You gave me my Dream (thx Rogers), but in the end you guys really are less cool Americans.
[G1 Android Development] mcmarkos86:
agreed

Agreed!!! android FTW!!!!!!
[G1 Android Development] Firerat:
lol

ok I need 10char

bless the ickle winblows noob. it searched, just doesn't understand
[G1 Android Development] skyundersea:
This is way too counterproductive for me to underst- *brain explodes*
[G1 Android Development] death1246:
Android OS 2.1 has flash wait for the update genious...
[G1 Android Development] tnpapadakos:
to run stuff that isnt on android yet, like slingplayer

best of both worlds, dual boot...check out mvp by vmware
[G1 Android Development] asb123:
wow that guy looks like a douche, plz dont use him as your reference canadian.

And believe me, I am wayyyy cooler than most americans :cool: :D
[G1 Android Development] boldfilter:
Canada? whats that?
[G1 Android Development] Kutttt:
I believe that was too explicit for XDA my annihilated friend. It's a shame you had to go from such non-sense in this world.
[G1 Android Development] AngioNicholai:
here ya go.

I figured out how to install the winmo Hd2 rom on g1, i dont know why i did it but it sucks, android all the way (though i still like my touch pro 2 :P)

I mean its not worth it but hey try it out: http://tinyurl.com/dcpsks

here is a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

enjoy!!!

Angio~
[G1 Android Development] AngioNicholai:
i think its a type of tube, or a bat.... something like that ?idk?
[G1 Android Development] adelco93:
so i checked it out, and it only boots ce. why would i want ce? and i dont think its worth it if slingplayer is the only incentive
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
****s & giggles maybe. Me personally I would love to dual-boot Android and Windows Mobile.

Also great health care.
[G1 Android Development] Klyentel:
good grief, do you really own all those devices in your sig?....lol, wow. And I thought flashing 3 different roms a week was too much.
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
classic hahha
[G1 Android Development] :
not all devices on 2.1 will get flash player
[G1 Android Development] carnegie0107:
No, you're not going to get WinMo (or WinPhone, whatever name they want to give it) on the Dream. Why? Drivers. There are no Drivers for the Dream for Windows. And without the details on exactly how the drivers communicate with the hardware, we can't write our own. So there's your answer. You're only the thousandth Junior to ask this QUESTION in the DEVELOPMENT section, instead of the QUESTION & answer section, and every time, it is the same answer. And after someone gives the answer, some other noob says, well, we can write our own drivers--why not, if one guy can write an entire ROM? At which point people who actually know what a driver is ridicules them until a Mod locks the thread for being in the wrong section. So..... let's all skip going through this cycle yet again and just pretend this thread is already locked.
[G1 Android Development] apreichner:
Unless you could port drivers from another device using similar hardware, which if I'm not mistaken is how Android ended up on other phones in the first place. Which in itself proves your logic is not completely undeniable. The hardest part in my mind is going to be a way to get the capacitive screen to work with winmo as there are definitely no other devices who natively run Winmo with a capacitive screen besides the HD2, which wouldn't work.
[G1 Android Development] WM_Manu:
Windows Mobile sucks, I think a lot of people think so.

believe me Android is much better as WinMo, my first Phone was an Windows Mobile 5 Phone, than the G1, at first without root (no Roms flashing) Task managers and other cool tools Android sucks for mee too, So I buy me the Touch HD. But then one day i started my G1, make root on that, make roms on that and a lot of cool tools for the Battery (advanced Task manager, Task-Killer,...) So for a week I give my Touch HD my brother for Birthday, NOW I´m using my G1. When the HTC Desire comes to Germany i buy that Android phone!

So now I am learning to develop apps for Android, and other cool stuff maybe Widgets too. I love Android it is the best system for mobile phones!

wm_manu

sorry for my bad english
[G1 Android Development] axlastro:
Android is superior to wm 6.1 and maybe 6.5. However, I'm not sure about WP7.

I'm seriously waiting to see the first devices that run it before switching the G1 for another phone. And on the topic - I'm not sure you'd want WM 6.5 with the small capacitive screen of the g1... You can, however boot Debian or OpenMoko

which might give the possibilities to run many desktop apps. It would be even greater if someone ported the N900 linux os or even UBUNTU.

Oh, and WM doesn't suck. It just has it's pluses and minuses, that's all. There are plenty of things that WM can do and Android can't and vice versa.
[G1 Android Development] sabin123:
Besides the android is it possible to port any other mobile os into G1.
[G1 Android Development] axlastro:
Yes, I said in my previous post, dont you read? Debian and OpenMoko (both linux) are supposed to run on the G1. I coudn't install debian on mine though, but didn't really try - just don't need it... If they port Ubuntu I might be interested.
[G1 Android Development] jmhalder:
I've replied in a bunch of threads similar to this, and yes, I would love to see WM boot on my G1, do I really care? no, not really.

Clarification: The reason Android is so easily ported to other phones is the similarity to existing hardware (G1/MT3G/Hero/etc), although most of the hardware is NOT plug and play... all of this has already been stated... HOWEVER, we should consider ourselves lucky that android uses the linux kernel and that most drivers are compiled in and not as modules, because of licensing, they DO have to release any modification they make to the kernel (ie. drivers)... so most of this can be easily ported.

Why this wont happen: WM does NOT have open source drivers for ANY of its hardware, it would be a huge endeavor JUST to get the CE kernel booted, a framebuffer displaying it, and keyboard/TS input... this alone would probably be as big as some of the android porting projects. On top of that, it would be MUCH MUCH MUCH more difficult to rewrite drivers for wifi/bluetooth/radio/CPU throttling/Touchscreen/CPUSleep/camera/etc...

In Conclusion: What makes Android so easily ported is open source drivers, WM doesnt have this luxury, so you'll almost definitely be out of luck.

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[G1 Android Development] tnpapadakos:
yeah, i know...slingplayer was the only example i could think of...but still, the idea of the Mobile Virtualization Platform is nice, dont ya think?
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
Enough with the darned Canada comments, at least I can go to the doctor whenever I want and don't have to pay >:U.
[G1 Android Development] ivanmmj:
People keep this on topic. Possible or not, whether you like the idea or not, let people try.
[G1 Android Development] AngioNicholai:
yea i have them all, but i do not flash roms everyday, only for the device im working on.
[G1 Android Development] apreichner:
Last time I checked, the majority of G1's drivers are proprietary... Which would make sense as to why it takes so long for full 3D to come to 2.1 ROMs. The kernel is open source, the Google Apps + the HTC Drivers are proprietary.

EDIT:

So in conclusion: It is possible, but it probably wont happen. Not necessarily because of the hardships involved, but as you can see from this thread, you wont find much support for it.
[G1 Android Development] DrLfresh81:
would be cool to have the option, but ill stay with android;)
[G1 Android Development] terminal 7:
huh

hi

notice how everyone gets real excited when theres talk of an android port to another windows mobile device, its cool..

and then when someone talks of the other way round porting win-mob to an android device - everyone is like ' nahh ' ' pointless ' ' why would you '

that should say it all.. win-mob is just no good when stacked up against the excellence of android !!... lol....

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[G1 Android Development] sabin123:
If windows OS is not possible then what about porting linux or debian in android as both of them are open sources???or what about dual boot with eclair and donut rom ???
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Well, seeing as Debian has already been done.... Try searching.
[G1 Android Development] Bigt2003:
?

Why would you port the entire os just for 1 or 2 programs that you like? Isn't that kinda like buying a car just for the headlights? If you're going thru the trouble of writing drivers, just reverse engineer & port the app you want. Its a monumental undertaking no matter how you look at it.
[G1 Android Development] :
I want Windows Mobile 6.5 + Sense UI like the HTC HD2. Mostly because I'm jealous that I can't upgrade my phone until next year which pisses me off. And it's pretty cool having Sense UI on somthing other then Android. And don't lie, you know you like the HTC HD2!
[G1 Android Development] sino8r:
Yeah, it would be pretty nice but I'll be more interested in it when it gets its WM7 upgrade!:D
[G1 Android Development] :
Well, think about it. If we get it running now, then when Windows Phone 7 comes out, it'll just be a simple task of Porting it like KiNg did to the Droid Eris 2.1 [DUMP].
[G1 Android Development] sino8r:
Oh I totally agree with you, man. We should get it running asap. I kinda already have my wm6.5 sense ui fix with my tp2. But it is really cool... I wonder though if the g1 has enough ram to run htc sense ui. I guess we have proved it does with the hero and other ports but running wm PLUS sense ui will be difficult to do. Wm is a huge resource hog.. On another note, wm7 will only run with cap. screens... so us android users will be able to pull it off sooner or later. The only crappy thing is most wm users are out of luck for a wm7 upgrade since all current wm devices use the standard touchscreen.
[G1 Android Development] Meltus:
Why on earth is everyone saying "it's pointless, Android is way better"?

So what if it is?

I'd love to see WM (or hell, even the Iphone OS) running on the G1 for the look-what-our-kick-ass-phones-can-do factor.

I mean, come on. The N64 pails in comparison to modern day PC games, but does that mean i'm gonna remove my N64 Emulator?! Hell no!!
[G1 Android Development] :
I'd have to agree with Meltus here, just the pure fact of showing the versatility of the G1 and its ability to load different systems. Also wm mobiles can get android so why the hell not the other way around? How cool seriousy would it be to be able to brag multiple operating systems depending on your mood?

Hope to see this happen one day.
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
I'm Commander Shepard, and I agree with this comment.

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[G1 Android Development] sino8r:
Holy crap Batman! That dude is freaking me out!
[G1 Android Development] Alex530:
Has the update arrived yet? NO! Brainiac
[G1 Android Development] gophergun:
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite thread on the Internet :p

In all seriousness, I might be interested in this just for Coreplayer. Last time I checked, Android is a bit weak on the video compatibility side. However, I think I'd be more interested in porting the iPhone OS (sorry) just for the various games and apps they have (e.g., I think Bioware made a Mass Effect game for the iPhone, which I'd be interested in trying out, as well as Mint.com's application). It would be a huge project to get that far, but it would be really incredible if and when it happens.

I can't possibly imagine the community would be able to get Windows Mobile up and running before we'd get a 2.1 update, unless it's just not going to happen.
[G1 Android Development] adelco93:
yea, agree with the iphone 4.0 statement
[G1 Android Development] Icebergxx:
Personally IMO

I like having my Android rooted because it just saves me money. I get bored with my g1? Hell give it a Blur rom or Sense or Pulse UI and BAM I just went through three different phones and at 400 each that's 12 hundred. To run Windows would just be another way of saving money
[G1 Android Development] markolo25:
technically impossible unless emulated due to SPL still part of android but yea theres still a large possibility because i remember hearing about a WInMo phone that has the same cpu as the g1 so i guess it might have other similarities aswell.
[G1 Android Development] 20015jjw:
hope2come true
[G1 Android Development] stangri:
Well, there's that Sunno S880 phone which runs Windows but for which the manufacturer promised the 2.1 ROM a while ago. Unfortunately, seeing there's been no development in this area, looks like Android ROM for this device is vaporware.
[G1 Android Development] sabin123:
If there is windows rom for the android then does it require the specific spl or it would work on any spl????
[G1 Android Development] domenukk:
won't need danger spl as there is not going to be winmo for our phones. xD

what could be possible is

nokia maemo and palm webos (as they are linux based)

[I would love to see palm webos on my phone, as it is the most stylish ui ever... along with iphone (and maybe senseUI).. and it now runs native linux apps (so does maemo afaik) and is not that hardware-consumpting...

and maybe nokias symbian os (as it is open source)
[G1 Android Development] M..N:
Hmm i wonder how hard it would be to port maemo, or symbian os.
[G1 Android Development] domenukk:
Maemo is linux.... Should be nto much harder than getting debian to work... then again why would you want it? ^^

Only os I would look into was WebOS. It's a masterpiece :P
[G1 Android Development] Luca_Dream:
if theres anyone who already is working on it, or wants to work on webOS on our devices, im pretty sure a LOT of people would donate to get that running

Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[G1 Android Development] M..N:
Maybe we should create a think tank to port web os
[G1 Android Development] maxisma:
Forget about it.
[G1 Android Development] Luca_Dream:
honestly i dont think any of this is gonna happen, and if miraculously it did, it would look terrible on most if not all of our devices. Instead of trying to port different OS's to our phones we should continue to make android better.

Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
WebOS probably won't happen without a LOT of work.... and WinMo, let's put it this way, there's a reason they're porting Android to it ;)
[G1 Android Development] :
amen! 10+ char!
[G1 Android Development] KAwAtA:
hahahaha I like this! +1~!
[G1 Android Development] thelistening:
haha so true, theres DEFINATLY a reason :)
[G1 Android Development] puresnow:
on purpose?!?
[G1 Android Development] www.cepdukkani.net:
if i want to use windows mobile i dont buy g1 i may buy touch pro or kaiser. i bought g1 for android. so nonsense question, nonsense work.... no more windows mobile on htc phones please !
[G1 Android Development] hairsup:
I dun mind WM on HTC (HD2?). Just please...stop asking wm on ANY of the android phones!
[G1 Android Development] Meltus:
Why? I'd love WM on my phone. and the Iphone OS on it too!

"Hey look at my amazing WM phone!"

'yeah i got that on my phone..."

"yeah well, it's not as good as my iphone!"

'...yeah i got that too.'

"what about android?"

'you better believe it!'

If not for functionality, purely so we can show how awesome our phones are :D
[G1 Android Development] otto888:
+1. I'd love to shutup the "iAssholes" that bash anything that doesnt run iPhone OS.

Sent from my HTC Dream using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[General Questions and Answers] michi.housefan:
Hi! ;)

I´m searching for a good freeware tool to send my sms ( also if possible / mms and emails) from my smartphone.

I don´t like the build in on my device.

Do anyone knew a GOOD and free Sms tool? It would be great!

Fingerfriendly would be super!

I´m searching now for hours but can´t find anything... :mad:

But I can´t belive that there is anything on the web!

And when not- why does nobody made such a tool?!

Thank you very much!

Sorry my english is bad i knew :confused::p
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
Look for sms bubbles, for mention one of the many you´ll find using search:cool:
[General Questions and Answers] michi.housefan:
Hi thank you...

I have found this aplication by searching. But thats´s not what i wanted.

I´m searching for a FINGERFRIENDLY Tool to receive and send SMS for WIndows mobile. I don´t have found anything else.

Sorry...

Does everybody knew a other aplication? :confused:
[General Questions and Answers] housefan:
Hi now after even think there is no possibility

i have found TWO good ways how to use a FINGERFRIENDLY or better SYSTEM LOOKING SOftware/Tool for Messaging/SMS on the windows mobile phone.

The first is the new

Slide2Send

Application witch is just beta but I think it will be a good program in the future. Like others very fingerfriendly Slide2... Applications... More here on XDA! Only search the forum!:p

The second and best freeware for me is the very old tool called

Pocket CM-Contact

. Search on WEB VIA google!!! This tool has a build in (!) SMS function and on the other hand you also have the chance to use a phone book! There are 2 good skins to use to!

Very cool! Love it!

:D
[Android Themes] asb123:
hey guys, I am sorry if this has been asked for but I looked around and could not find it but does someone have a zip or metamorph for a "shiny/glossy" power widget.

anything sort of like the one in this theme

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=641247
[Android Themes] MINUS Stl:
you could just dl that theme, extract the background png (forget the exact filename) and other widget-related png's from settings.apk and create the morph.

If you want, I already have anders' theme dl'd so I can work on it real quick.
[Android Themes] asb123:
sorry for the late response, but that would be absolutely amazing if you could do that for me, and I am sure there are others who would love that.
[General Topics] Samurai Big Ed:
Anybody have an invite to spare? It would be greatly appreciated.
[HD2 General] Archer:
I can't believe no-one's commented on this in nearly 2 weeks! Brilliant job mate. BIG kudos to you for doing this.

Thanks :)
[HD2 General] rikardo1979:
great job

Wow.

thats great job m8.I'm sure so many people will like this

:cool:
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
heh thanks. I got tired of giving out links info that ended up being wrong.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Well I've bookmarked this little gem and have already given it out to one person asking for advice ;)
[HD2 General] neil_swann80:
Also bookmarked, very useful. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
[HD2 General] alefsin:
Great post. Book marked.
[HD2 General] Enigmatik60:
Sometimes the simplest explanations are the best ... what a great post ... Thanks!!