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[G1 Android Development] :
Wes are you going to stick with non-DangerSPL...? I'm thinking whether to revert to HardSPL since there's 20MB wasted space on /system right now and maybe it's possible to move /dalvik-cache back to internal NAND...?

THX!!!!
[G1 Android Development] photolarry:
So what is password?

I can download the file yet cannot open it. I am more than willing to give it a whirl as I can always go back to my nandroid backups. But without a password I cannot test anything. Is this so unstable that Wes is worried it will break your phone beyond repair?? Wes message me privately and I sent you a tweet too.
[G1 Android Development] Kazba1626:
So much hype (2.0) so much disappointment (1.3.1). :p
[G1 Android Development] ZhekaS:
Is it over ? Shall we stop waiting ?
[G1 Android Development] javolin13:
OpenEclair is a joke.
[G1 Android Development] xaueious:
If you don't like OE, get out and shut up. Stop whining like spoiled twelve-year olds. It will be out when it is ready.

For updates follow @wesgarner on Twitter. It isn't that hard.
[G1 Android Development] gophergun:
His Twitter is too full of random crap to be a useful notification of updates IMO. Besides, for that there would need to be an update to report on :p
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
posting post #500 on huge vaporware thread. OE2 is taking too long to come, you guys stimulating it properly? You don't have to make Duke Nukem Forever part of the build, we'll still like it without it.

---edit---

damn, you beat me to it. though, technically, I'm reply #500
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
Anyway, I just talked to Romain Guy in google, he's a framework engineer for android at google. Asking about why we can't get Live Wallpapers and 3D working at the same time, he said:

"RenderScript-based features were never intended for use on an HTC Dream. HTC Dream-class devices should use the original Launcher and not Launcher2"

I asked what about was incompatible since the community can get one or the other to work but not both, so they are both supported, and he replied:

" I didn't say it's incompatible, I said it was not intended to run on Dream. Again, this is currenty a private API, not a platform feature. Mostly for performance reasons but also because the GPU driver does not support multiple contexts, which is why you can't have 3D live wallpapers and 3D all apps."

also:

"FroYo brings Launcher2 to HTC Dream/Sapphire but turns off 3D all apps in that case, and live wallpapers are not available by default."

At this point I was replying from my HD2 and mailing him direclty instead of back to android-platform google group, so I stopped until I could get back to a computer since the conversation has no reason for being private.

I have been working hard on Eclair for the Dream, but short of the long wait for official drivers, I'll halt development (there are plenty guys already working on eclair-this and eclair-that) and I'll rear my ugly head again once froyo drops.

Guys who follow my builds know how they are: no-nonsense, clean, fast, and not feature-heavy, but stable as they get.
[G1 Android Development] TeeJay3800:
That's cool to hear from a Google engineer since the original launcher ("Home") works much better than Launcher2 on my device.
[G1 Android Development] Kainzo:
Twitter was made for girls in their teens, anyone who uses that as a serious communication device needs to take a look in the mirror.

If you are still waiting for the "complete" eclair ROM to come out, good news! It's already out. Search for it.
[G1 Android Development] Shatterv2:
Of course yes lets all Facebook it, that would be a progressive effort at changing 1,000+ devs to a better way to communicate to hundreds of people at once. :rolleyes:

Please keep it to yourself next time
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Here we are almost May now...

;)
[G1 Android Development] carz12:
[rant]

Holy **** people, why do want a release if it's not ready? whats the point? and what are you smoking to say CM is a cut and paste developer? any of you ever check out github?

All these "developers" you call them, lol, have any of them even worked with the source code or compiling from source? even I am doing that and I'm no developer by a long stretch.

All these ports as you call them are just bits and pieces of others work, it's what open source is all about, but calling them developers? cookers is what they are, not that I'm saying they don't do a great job sometimes.

I see a few real base roms on here, everyone else's is a themed rom as far as I'm concerned, anyone that cared to learn could take a good base and make it there own, it's what I did, now I'm on github learning to code and learning how to make android apps.

Here check out these links and learn, if you can't do it you have no right to ***** to anyone about all the free work real developers are putting into "your" rom.

http://source.android.com/

http://developer.android.com/index.html

[/rant]
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
/rant

Go away lol

/rant
[G1 Android Development] carz12:
You must have meant "go away like all the developers are going to do"
[G1 Android Development] lightninbug:
Might as well have a thread titled.."2012 - Whats to Come........nothing is going on with this rom...
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
That explains why I'm not happy :|
[G1 Android Development] Blackman778g:
Well... I hope this isn't a letdown because, when this thread was created I suscribed to it and now all I see is nothing about 2.0.:(

Sorry Wes but Cannon's 2.0 eclair has taken your place
[G1 Android Development] :
See Wes and Chris's twitter posts, they said they may forfeit this for Cyan 5.0 for G1/MT3G, cause the codes are mostly the same anyway.

I for one, is not unhappy to see this. There's no point in maintaining 2 different versions just because one can name it his/her own distro.
[G1 Android Development] Blackman778g:
Oh, I had never known that. Cyan 5.0 huh... I have never flashed a Cyan build even though he has probably the best recomendations. :eek:
[G1 Android Development] asb123:
cyan makes full out ecair roms?
[G1 Android Development] axlastro:
He tweeted that it's soon to be released - a full 2.1 CYAN build. I must say I have used his biulds ever since he starded. For some time his build became unstable and I switched to THE OFFICIAL. His latest donut build is awesome - I havent wiped since it came out - almost two months - and I don't need to reboot for days. I hope his eclair build is as stable as his latest donut - this can mean only one thing - I'm not buying another phone for the next 5-6 months...
[G1 Android Development] gophergun:
Well, he makes Nexus One ROMs, and has an Eclair git branch IIRC, so I suppose that qualifies.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
It will be just as special, I guarantee this. He wasn't going to release an eclair rom until he felt he could get it stable ;)
[G1 Android Development] Dyonas:
Yeah it was a nice surprise to see on his Twitter account. I figured he'd given up on the G1 and stopped following him when it was lots of Nexus One chatter. Here's hoping there's something to come soon because this thread has been full of chatter with no end result. I know they've been working on it even if I haven't seen it myself but the hype machine was in overdrive a long time ago.
[G1 Android Development] asb123:
52 pages later, no rom comming out anymore :(
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
53 because of you :p.
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
Great... so its going to get FAT, SLOW, and BROKEN, like all the other CM trash.
[G1 Android Development] lowlife546:
daaaiiiinnng
[G1 Android Development] apreichner:
In the interest of not starting a huge argument on this thread, or any thread for that matter, I'll leave it at this:

Fortunately, your opinion does not matter.

But on another note:

Bring on the HW Acceleration with 2.1!!! I for one can't wait.
[G1 Android Development] billquinn1:
Do we think the "hardware acceleration" is anything other than what Firerat has working in several other roms?
[G1 Android Development] lowlife546:
video in all the 2.1 roms is buggy to flat out broken. it sounds like he got it working 100%
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
"video" is too vague really. He has only gotten video in youtube to work as well as mp4 support. I have yet to see camcorder and camera working perfectly.
[G1 Android Development] apreichner:
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think he managed to get hardware acceleration working at all. I think he managed to get Youtube working through software acceleration which would explain why it generally only works on Low or High quality through 3G and not Wifi. But again, I could be wrong.

Hardware accelerated video means: Full on video support in all aspects. Video recording, and it also relieves a heavy load on the system that was previously being filled by software acceleration which means a faster more stable ROM than we currently have.

Right now I like to think of our current 2.1 ROMs as being held together by duct tape. You enable 3D, you lose live wallpapers. Kind of a whole give or take situation because of the lack of drivers available for the G1. Apparently Cyanogen has fixed this issue almost completely. From his twitter entries, it looks like he wont release until he has it completely working. I think his last thing about it was rewriting a camera API, so I think we're getting pretty close.
[G1 Android Development] billquinn1:
From what we have seen the 3d hardware acceleration problem and the video drivers preventing video playback and video recording appear to be separate issues. If what he has fixed is 3d acceleration... well that's kind of already been figured out. Full camcorder function and video playback are the current roadblock. If I am mistaken, I apologise. I'm getting used to being wrong alot.
[G1 Android Development] apreichner:
No, he fixed 3D long ago. He never saw a point to releasing it because there is no hardware video acceleration until now.
[G1 Android Development] lowlife546:
its the video problem he's fixed. from his twitter:

"We just got hardware-accelerated video playback working :)"

and..

"watch and record high def video like you could before. no eclair roms out there can do this yet."
[G1 Android Development] jriv:
friend told me he saw on twitter that wes is gonna stop dev of open eclair once cyan drops the cm5 for g1/mytouch any one heard that?
[G1 Android Development] speedysilwady:
"lol yea it's [open eclair 2.0's] prob not going to be released - CM is doing dream/sapphire Eclair now" -wes garner on twitter.
[G1 Android Development] :
Has video capturing been fixed in any of the ROMs?
[G1 Android Development] billquinn1:
Please read the last 2 pages of discussion. The answer is possibly, maybe, apparently.
[G1 Android Development] :
Since CM released his ROM, there is no point in waiting for OE 2.0?
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
WG has said that there will be no OE2.0.

WG now works for CM.
[G1 Android Development] asb123:
im still patiently waiting for open eclair 2.0
[G1 Android Development] 01jayss:
there will be no OE 2.0 as the dev has switch to work on Cyanogen rom
[G1 Android Development] Indianbuddha:
This thread should be closed.
[G1 Android Development] unchainedrssr:
I feel the same way with regards to progress. These devs are really great at what they do. ;) Sometimes those small tweaks and additions to a rom make things better for everyone out there.

Sure, it's nice to have the fastest and most efficient kernel but, for some of the average users out there who are flashing these roms, it comes down to being as user friendly as possible. :D
[G1 Android Development] Gary13579:
I have been using JIT (DustedDonuts's .so) for weeks now. It is 100% stable for me on cyanogen, not a single force close (well, after I cleared dalvik cache, clearly).
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Wes G always doing it up right. Can't wait for this one.:cool:
[G1 Android Development] unchainedrssr:
BTW, I pretty much stay away from roms that require additional tweaking. I also stay away from swapping kernels. :D (just like other noobs :o)

To some of you this may seem retarded. "Why limit yourself?"

But, I like to stay safely between ":confused: shouldn't have tried it without the proper knowledge" and ":( well, I knew it was experimental"

Still learning and happy about it! :D
[G1 Android Development] :
Just curious... So we're still at the mercy of HTC/Qualcomm for the full camera/video drivers...?
[G1 Android Development] alongenemylines:
If you're only messing with the system and data partitions (the "file systems" a rom actually uses), the worst thing that can happen really is you might have to boot back into recovery, wipe everything, and restore a backup. It takes all of a few minutes.

There really isn't any reason to fear flashing kernels or modifying a rom's files. I don't think there's a rom I've used that I haven't modified in one way or another. Since I've learned how to repack kernels and sign my own files, it only makes it all easier. I can take any rom, dissect it, remove what I don't want, add what I do want, and then re-sign it. It takes MUCH less time to modify everything first than it does to change everything after flashing a rom.

Just don't be afraid. Make a backup, and hack away!
[G1 Android Development] ytj87:
I'll be surprised. That's not a knock on you Wes, it's a knock on the G1's hardware. We have pushed this little bugger so far. I just don't see how it'll run eclair and all those goodies anywhere near "fast."

If it does, you truly deserve high praise. But hardware limitations are hardware limitations.
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
What hardware limitations?
[G1 Android Development] bakgwailo:
Only real hardware limitations is our crappy amount of ram. Processor etc should be good to go.
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
More ram would be nice, but less ram is an incentive to code efficiently, and that is even better.

Anyways, since Android 1.{something} runs (granted badly) on a palm treo 650 (which has only 10MB ram !!!!!), I figure that we should be ok for a few more years at least :D
[G1 Android Development] jon6206:
mmm... chocolate
[G1 Android Development] nightwolf2k5:
any possibility that there can be a stock SPL compatible ROM made for us "scared to hell that we will brick our phone" g1 users? :)
[G1 Android Development] lolmensch:
so i think this will be the first rom where the devs will get money of me ^^ i mean the work which is in there is huuuuge. dont really understand that much of coding but i think i know enough to give honour to that work ^^

@lbcoder

as always you are flaming in every forum i see you :P but strangely you are almost always right with what you are saying.... :D agree to that romcooking and developing thing. almost every body is able to push apks and modify it by himself but the real work are done by very few. cyanogen, openeclair team and i guess also by kingklick although i dont like him
[G1 Android Development] lightninbug:
wow..hope it can live up to all of those features....now the next question...whens it coming out wes?
[G1 Android Development] delic:
Support this!

Hey Wes, I've given you some loot in the past for all of your hard work. It would be decent of everyone who intends to use this to throw them some loot as well...the same loot you would throw away buying some food could really support these guys which are making our phones THAT much more badass.

Hate to come of preachy, but I feel strongly that people should be compensated for their work. I'm gonna flash this when it appears ready for daily use, then I'm heading straight to donate!

Thanks for all of the work!

:D
[G1 Android Development] alongenemylines:
Just make sure you have the proper board (I forget if it's the PVT or DVT) and the 26I or newest radio. I have only heard of people bricking their g1 if they had the old 1.xx radio. They may have flashed the newer radio file, but not checked to make sure it did flash.

Just flash the newest radio, make sure it flashed, then flash the spl.
[G1 Android Development] :
Donated. I suggest other do the same
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
???

That's because its more important to be right than to make friends ;)

It is also worth mentioning that there are an infinite number of divisions between brilliant and retarded.... and *everybody* must fit somewhere.... I figure that the chances of being completely retarded are about equal to genius -- most are somewhere in between.
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
That IS one of the major intentions of the OE team.

However, you should take a look at the jtag thread.... the first phone has been successfully UNBRICKED now.... not that the procedure is particularly easy. (for most is will require sending your phone to someone to be repaired).
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
Some HAVE apparently verified that the new radio wrote... still a brick.

PVT and DVT should BOTH be fine. No proven link there. The brick rate for both is about equal.

Still not worth doing though...
[G1 Android Development] mejorguille:
WOW, this is going to be amazing! Wes, you and the OE team are some of the best developers! You guys are making me want to buy a visa gift card just so that I can donate to you guys!
[G1 Android Development] alongenemylines:
Been a while since I've looked into the Danger/Death thread. Wonder what it is exactly that's causing these few to brick?
[G1 Android Development] underoath586:
Well, I am excited for this to come out!
[G1 Android Development] lolmensch:
probably there are a few ppl who dont follow the steps properly. flashing radio and spl in the wrong order ^^ simple but effective to kill your phone forever

@lbcoder

the forum which no one shold talk about in xda. starts with droid :D you were involved with some navigation things :D
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
And I jizzed in my pants...
[G1 Android Development] Blackman778g:
I Am Drooling... Maybe finally I can use 2.1 and not get pissed off.
[G1 Android Development] lightninbug:
lol i feel ya man....so when is the update coming?
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
It's in OP, he's hoping to get it to us before/during the weekend. I doubt we'll get it before then though, probably MUCH later.
[G1 Android Development] lightninbug:
r u sure its not on his 4shared...LMAO like kings u can get b4 he releases
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
OpenEclair is showing what its got :-)
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
A brand new WG-Kernel to support Eclair in its finest - boosting speeds to a Donut level <---- This! :D
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
It appears he's found the magical pixie dust :D
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Wes only releases beta's from Androidspin in a password protected .rar file. You're perfectly welcome to figure out how to open it yourself, they're always available to download
[G1 Android Development] MattKilla:
I've said it before and I'll say it again and again and again..

Don't rush perfection. We can wait.
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
As of now, I am banning cliches. I know we can wait, we're all just so excited:p
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Well.... you guys can wait, I can play raging thunder just fine ;)
[G1 Android Development] t_rob76:
Dude thats messed up...albiet funny as hell :D
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Wasn't my intention to make you guys any less jealous
[G1 Android Development] asb123:
yeah, we are so jealous, u can play raging thunder :rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] sabin123:
Can,t wait when it available for download
[G1 Android Development] Chahk:
I'm sorry, but "magical" has been patented by the iPod.
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
don't you mean iPad?
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
or do you mean iCrap?
[G1 Android Development] G1-8701:
the iPad is pretty pointless, in my opinion, just a bigger iTouch
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Oh.... I guess I meant I can play Raging thunder on the OpenEclair beta with virtually no lag (let's face it, it has lag on Donut also)
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
LOL^^ Funny as hell.

I need to bribe a beta tester ;)

or hunt one.;)
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
We don't take kindly to being hunted, hard to nominate while we are dieing in the middle of the woods.
[G1 Android Development] Alex530:
Woah

If this launches dammit by all means i WILL fly! Cant wait,I have faith.:D:D:D:D:D
[G1 Android Development] oshizzle1991:
i seriously just got a boner. i love you wesgarner
[G1 Android Development] sahurbari:
Thanks a lot for the awesome roms 2.1 working finally lol.
[G1 Android Development] apreichner:
Lol, as long as you are carrying your G1 with it on the SD card, that's all I care about! :D
[G1 Android Development] irmatt:
woo, i cant wait! spit out a beta, with all the simple functions.
[G1 Android Development] amitabhishek:
+1. Cudn't agree more!
[G1 Android Development] alcatraz80:
When release this version? :-)
[G1 Android Development] lolmensch:
if we are lucky we'll get it the coming weekend. if we have some bad luck it'll take longer :P
[G1 Android Development] Kainzo:
I really hope this is sarcasm, otherwise I feel pity for you.

I'm looking forward to this release, I'm very interested to see how they are going to combat the hardware limitations of so many features on a device that has so little ram.
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
Don't worry I'm pretty sure it was. :cool:
[G1 Android Development] senab:
I'm listening... ;) lol
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
Oh that :eek:

LOL.

Just to set the record straight....

I wasn't actually involved in the work being done. I did some testing (on an emulator, not an actual device) and helped by coming up with a few observations.

... and had a little fun play-fighting with a bunch of disbelievers...
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
;)

;)

;)

;)

;)

:D
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
@ALL:

I *suspect* that we will see *something* this weekend. If not the release version, then a public beta. Wes has made mention of a possible public beta.
[G1 Android Development] Macmee:
Please have a rogers port

Please have a rogers port

Please have a rogers port

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
There is no need for a rogers port.

You should use a proper radio/spl.
[G1 Android Development] bernZ:
For those of us who can't use the old radio.

Can't we just use http://faruq.yandao.com/magicport/ this tool to port it into EBI1?
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
Everyone can use any radio they want.

They have an opt-out form -- you won't get your data cut off from having a non-matching radio if you opt-out. It just requires that you agree that they aren't responsible if your phone reboots when you call 911 (which it won't).
[G1 Android Development] Macmee:
And how then do I go from e1 to e0 then after I've rooted using cyanogen rogers guide.
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
e1?

e0?

Do you mean EBI1 and EBI0?

You do it the same way it has ALWAYS been done! Install an SPL that is compatible with both radios, then change the radio.
[G1 Android Development] Macmee:
I wouldn't know where to start because

- Not sure if other Rogers users have attempted this and how successful they've been

- I'm not using the new Rogers mandatory update radio

- I don't know where to get such an SPL
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
Most. Haven't heard of even a single brick from it. Not that bricks can't be fixed or anything ;)

Huh? Not relevant!

Look up. See the search button?
[G1 Android Development] Macmee:
I don't know which prerequisites are required, when to flash the radio (before/after) spl and I don't know if this will stop my phone from working on WCDMA (because although it's a rogers dream I use it on the Bell Network). Unless there's a guide somewhere I cannot simply find the correct files and flash, because I don't have a clue what's going to be the result.