yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Off-topic] ~~Tito~~:
Should be in the Off-Topic section :cool:.

If I where demonstrating something, I usually just blab on through the whole video lol.
[Off-topic] rickyoon.vegas:
I mean, you said it was off-topic,

but this is like waaaaay off.

To solve your problem,

make sure to give it a 1-star rating, and make sure to mute.
[Off-topic] dcarr622:
But cool music is awesome!

Typically Evanescence, heavy medal, or techno are most preferable for annoying demo videos.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Da_G:
Similar to the CE5 kernel that we're used to, the CE7 kernel is a 32 bit OS and runs a 4GB Virtual Address space. Similar to CE5, 2GB is reserved for the kernel and 2GB is reserved for user space.

This is where it begins to differ. CE5 handled the user space by splitting the process memory up into 32 slots of 32MB each. (This accounts for 1GB of user space, the rest is used for memory mapped files, fixed up modules, etc.) Any app currently in the foreground was swapped into slot 0 during execution, and swapped back into it's slot while it's backgrounded.

CE7 similarly uses 1GB for the process code, however now it's handled differently. Each running process is mapped to the entire 1GB space, allowing the full 1GB of VM available for use without the trickery needed to accomplish using more than 32MB of VM in CE5. This should allow for much more rich apps to be developed (whenever MSFT decides to allow us to write native code, which is coming at some point...)

This 1GB VM space will be dedicated to the process, and not accessible by any other process. The remaining 1GB of user space has to be utilized for inter-process memory sharing.

There are 256 priority levels as with CE5, for each individual thread within an app. Scheduling is handled on a round-robin basis for threads sharing the same priority level. Priority level 0 functions as a "real time" priority level and any thread running at this level will run through til completion before the scheduler runs another thread. True multitasking will not be accessible to programmers initially, though MSFT intends to unlock that later down the line (presumably around the time native code is allowed). There is no hard limit to the number of threads a program can utilize, it is only limited by the system resources available.

Regarding the limited APIs available to us "normal" programmers - OEMs and MOs will have access to an extended set of Managed APIs and a limited set of Native APIs that "normal" programmers won't get access to. This likely includes things like RIL.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] conflipper:
Just give me an ARM build of it that is already ported over to run MSM7x00.

Thank you
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] domineus:
good bump message too short grrr
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
Are you sure it's CE7 and not CE6? Tweakers.net (which appears to have received the same docs you have) says it's 6 and 6 makes much more sense to me being that CE7 hasn't RTM'd yet.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Da_G:
Yes, i'm sure it's CE7. The docs do in fact say CE6 but the docs are dated, things move fast, and that's no longer the case :)

CE7 "Chelan" will likely RTM around the same time WP7 does.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
Interesting. That's a lot of risk for the WP7 team to take on.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] AdamiX:
Windows 7, Windows Phone 7, so CE must be 7 :D

What do u mean by "much more rich apps". 3D Games or what? I think that aplications on WM 6.5.5 are good and fast. Can u explain that rich applications?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] the0ne:
where do you get this info from.. it does sound interesting :)

Keep it coming :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Ca5c4d3:
CE7 supports directx 9 acceleration. XNA & SL 4. Do they sound any familiar?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] mlin:
Awesome information! Thanks and keep it coming; I can't wait for WP7 to be released!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] link8506:
what makes you think that microsoft is going to allow developpers to write native code on windows phone 7?

the whole wp7 sandbox architecture is based on .net, so it's hard to imagine that microsoft would allow native code...

aren't they going to allow it only on windows phone 7 "business edition", which much users won't have ? that would make sense...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] dazza9075:
if they do that then we are in luck the guys on here will eventually pull it apart and give it to us all, i serously doubt thats going to happen tho, i suspect 6.5 code base will continue side by side until devs support WP7 at which point there wont be such a big outcry.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
FWIW I was told by members of the WP7 team that it's CE6. They weren't directly related with that aspect and weren't 100% certain (more like 99%) though.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Ganondolf:
A MS spokesman has confirmed it is running on a hybrid CE6 R3 (meaning CE6 R3 + added features that are from CE7). No doubt in my mind that a update in a year or so after launch they will update it to the full CE7.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Sangheili:
According to the OS Version that the device returns, its running CE 7. Check around the 6 minute mark here: http://live.visitmix.com/MIX10/Sessions/CL16
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
It says 7 as in Windows Phone 7.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] mrcrassic:
While this is quite interesting, I have a couple of questions about this. First, since each process is now free to use the entire slice of memory assigned to userspace, does this mean that it now conducts multitasking similar to iPhoneOS and Android where it saves the application's state when backgrounded instead of the entire process itself? How does the OS handle background activities, such as background network transfers and job completions?

This leads me to my second question. Since memory allocation is done on a round-robin basis, does this mean that all backgorund activity (if backgrounded) must be completed within a certain amount of time? (For those unfamiliar with OS concepts, round-robin scheduling is a method some OSes employ where it gives a pool of jobs a set amount of time, a quantum, to complete their work. If some job in the pool doesn't finish by the end of that quantum and another job needs resources, that job is killed off in favor of the new one. More information here.) Or is the activity suspended until whatever process needs the memory is finished using it?

Thanks for the scrutinous research!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
If you're referring to 3rd party apps, there is no multitasking for 3rd party apps. Depending on what the user does, the app will be "tombstoned" (application state saved).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Tom Servo:
Why would it say "Windows CE" and then append a version number that doesn't apply?

Anyway, even if it runs a WinCE 6 hybrid kernel, I hope there's SMP support there. I'd like to see a Tegra based phone. Such a device however would be a terrible waste of CPU power, if the system can't use both cores.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Da_G:
@Tom Servo:

Having looked extensively at the CE7 CTP posted a while back, I can definitely say there's SMP support in there :) CE6 unfortunately does NOT from what i've looked at. But that's not too much of a concern as WP7 definitely runs CE7, since many moons ago :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] AndrewSh:
To Da_G

Would be nice to catch you online (read my PM if you please)..........
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Shiprat:
I am not MS, so i cant say anything for sure, but through work i have heard from both salesman and tech-rats of MS (last time 4 months ago) that WP7 runs it own hybrid rev of CE 6.0 with some of the CE7 added. When i asked why not pure CE7 they said it contained a lot of stuff aimed for x86 that was not needed, and rather than customize CE7 they just added what was needed in CE6.0.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] msanda_77:
Just for clarification da_g. Windows phone 7 does not use windows ce 7, its based of windows ce 6.0 R3 .. http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...d-roadmap-clear-in-places-murky-in-others.ars

Windwos CE7 is stated for release this year but that is most likely not going to happen. this is one of the reasons why lots of features had to be mixed and merged for it to run smoothly on windows phone7. I am guessing sometime next year windows ce7 will be the official kernel for windows phone 7.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/obloch/archive/2010/05/03/windows-ce-is-not-dead.aspx

This article is from Microsoft just stating what i was saying. You can see some features where put off but some developers have the native ability to add new features like LG with its dlna play-to features.. When the kernel goes full windows ce 7 all apps will have access to that api.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] indiekiduk:
Well those articles are really old and now that WP7 rom dumps are in our hands we can clearly see that the exes and dlls are compiled as CE7.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] msanda_77:
not necessarily. To some degree it is wince 7. But wince 7 is still not finished. Just like ie mobile is on wp7 a harsh of ie8 and ie7. Is exactly what windows phone 7 is. so yes the very core of the kernel is windows ce 7 ( which really is just windows ce 6 R3), but a few features are taken from windows ce7 like the app layer component of what silverlight runs against. The thing is its not yet a full windows ce7 but an interim to what windows ce 7 is suppose to be. Infact even in the article they state it there. "By the Way, Windows Phone 7 is based on the Windows Embedded Compact 7 core"

So if we are to take the core as saying this is windows ce 7 then i guess that is true but the matter is there are lots of other windows ce6 stuff which will get cleaned out when windows ce 7 goes rtm and finally is ported to windows phone 7. As of now is just a very functionally Frankenstein.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ntonhd2:
i assume it is not coincidence that ctp was release in july (?) and it took just about those 5 months for wp7 hd2 dft release? and then there is of course this:

http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/WP7S/IMAG0202.jpg

so this is the starting point hey :). I am getting ce7 up along with riff box jtag, ida pro, and few other tools.

I may be crazzzy but really want to get this new bldr +- oal +- nk.exe to strap up (onto- ie ce7 as quasi-firmware) a ntoskrnl.exe build.

I have source.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pk2:
Hello all,

Is there some hard UI button combination or somthing to bypass the Google sign in screen.

I have a couple T-Mobile G1’s running AT&T that I put together from some parts and a couple "broken" phones. Every time I try to fool around with ROMS or mechanical stuff, I have to go through the whole APN setup and Google sign in .

I’m flipping dyslexic, got big thumbs and, never learned to type. The whole process takes me about 30 minuets everytime.

This is a pain just to see what a ROM looks like or if I have swaped some hardware or somthing see if I've improved things. Further, one Android has a dicey keyboard right now and I don’t have the right keys working to sign in to my Google account.

Anyway, All the hardware componets I have now have proved themselvess to be good, It just takes lots of rejiggering connetions and stuff to make them work perfectly (read tear them completly apart and back together again). Skipping all the sign in stuff would sure get me going alot faster.

Regards, PK_
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SpartusTana:
quite a few ROMs (cupcake and later i believe [donut for sure]) allows you to skip the sign in process at the start. other then that, I don't know of any bypass.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Binary100100:
Huh... that's a good question. I never had to wrestle with it myself but here's a thought, what if you do a nandroid backup after you complete a setup procedure and then just adb shell reboot bootloader

then

fastboot flash userdata data.img

then

fastboot reboot

Let me know what happens. It should work. Not sure about 1.6 to 2.1 or vice versa though.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pk2:
Hmmm.... I don't suppose you can recomend any?

Thanks for your interest and sugestion, PK
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pk2:
Trying to delete duplicate post above....PK
[HD2 General] intoxiktu:
Hi guys, i'm a rookie to wm, and hd2 was my first phone with this os, so sorry if this thread is "stupid" :(

My problem :

I have a "1" notification icon on my top status bar, and i don't know what it is and how to remove it. Any help in this matter is much appreciated.

I've searched the forum for a similar problem, but no luck.

Best regards,

A fan of xda-developers :D
[HD2 General] boofhead:
press the top bar on the icon. it will take you to either a missed call or message etc. it will then disappear when you have seen what it was that you missed.
[HD2 General] tnyynt:
Nope. It's a notification for Line 1.
[HD2 General] xILukasIx:
Someone already asked this a month ago here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=634723
[HD2 General] intoxiktu:
I've searched n pages for that topic but haven't found it

So if it is network dependent, it can't be removed. :(

Thanks :D
[HD2 General] ccezar2004:
as far as i know, in romania, vodafone has the posibility to own a SIM card with 2 numbers/lines on it... maybe that's why you have it... you could trey if you have this service active through a phone call to customer care
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] af974:
subscribe to this......need to learn before my next device.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
Thanks. I didn't see these threads before. Any chance you could share or point to the docs this info came from? It seems tweakers.net acquired it and I wouldn't mind looking through.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] mord4z:
saved for future use! Da_G is the master of the roms!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hdubli:
As Usual Da_G you are cool..
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Tribulattifather:
Will you make this thread a Sticky for us? Thanks again G.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] tripknotix:
bump! Bump! Bump!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] jagan2:
Da_G you always rock, now we got a huge info.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] kwanice:
thanks for your infos :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] jdep1:
that is some good news eventually have custom ROMs on wp7
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] axelf5:
thanks!!!!!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ai6908:
So you are saying that we will be able to cook for WM7, but wont be able to get a HSPL to flash it?:confused:;)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] leo70:
Well done Da_G.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] leo70:
Hi Da_G,

How can I get my hands on these files: not wp7 os but the other partition (dpp/bldr/uldr/imgfs/etc) contents? What IS known about wp7-fs? spl?

Do you have ANY dumps - even ZuneHD equiv? maybe the source of your .ffu info and an actual .ffu? Thanks there- pm me if you get the time. Yeah... I am noob here but interested in moving into rom-dev; used to do xbox-1+live and do have jtag, logic analyzers+trace, etc here. How would I begin? Once again: thanks and well done!

Edit/Update:

Perhaps with Cotulla's partition layout over 4 seperate nand areas it would be an option to modify this and his wp7 spl because the activation thing happened AFTER (live activation hack around etc) he had finished leo70 release and then..........

-whilst jtag/usb or eth/debug happening- (obviously you'd though of this b4- im just theorizing- let me know if way off)- to take a HTC HD2 (LEO70) that HAS BEEN ACTIVATED ON LIVE and see where/how/when/with/which partitions, filesys, regkeys, etc, have pvk for live or the ffu and then insert a test cert like ur own xbmod/chevron. or whatever is in sdk for 7 or ce. and then utilize this to diff and comp. I dont see why not. Then .ffu then self signature.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] -WP7User-:
Now THAT'S cool! Thanks, Da_G!

This would mean, that we basically could get custom Rom's on WP7. Can't wait to see the first ones :D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] c_shekhar:
Interesting info. Subscribing to it now....
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sushantduggal:
Thanks or the info Da_G!!!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] arimozuki:
eh?

Did you look at the post dates before you all started subscribing? Almost a year now, doubt you'd see anything new ... but this and more 'subscribed' and a possible 'sod off' post.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] surrender420:
Is this the only discussion on the topic? I'm sure im not the only one looking forward to having an unlocked bootloader. Any updates?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gentry33:
See the first thread in this sub-forum.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] silek65:
Is there any progress with it?

I lost PVK keys in my HD7 unit and I'm trying to find a way to fix them :/

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32582271&postcount=33

Thanks!
[Sable] Kato007:
Hello,

unfortunately :( I broke my ipaq 614c display - does anybody know where to get such a sparepart not to expensive?

Thanks for any sugestions

Kato
[Sable] mendel129:
I don't know the shop, but you can try ordering hiere: http://ipaqrepair.co.uk/store.php?cat_id=432&catname='iPAQ Parts 600 Series'
[Sable] chan200606:
You can buy them from ebay. Just search for 614 touch. One example is: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/OEM-NEW-Touc...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3caa11b9bb.

I have not bought one of these for myself (I am very careful with my 612c) but have bought one for my wife's 912c last Dec.
[Sable] Kato007:
thanks - the ebay Seller "Mingxing200808" input was very competitive (price 25 € incl. shippment) for the complete display & digitizer - thats worth for repairing!

Lets wait for the product ..

Best Regards

Kato
[Sable] Zemun_PFC:
http://www.repairhppda.com/ipaq-touch-screen-digitizer-c-89.html
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] microang:
Please help me someone accidently put my HTC Diamond in the washing machine and now it doesn't appear to work! What should I do? IS there any chance of repair? I really need what is on the internal storage as I have no other copies of it!!! I know the phone may be dead but is there any way to recover the internal storage?

If I buy another Diamond is there anyway to tranfer the memory? It is still under warrenty but I'm worried HTC won't repair it and I may loose the data completely!

Please help me ASAP!!! :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ciccione:
:eek:

Now your diamond it's very clean. :p

Sorry.

(A few months ago i put the USB stick in the washing machine.

Luckily it works perfectly and I have not lost data. Certainly this is not a phone...)

Ok, i don't think you can remove the internal storage...

Try to disassemble your pda, then wash it with plenty of clean water.

Finally dry it with a hairdryer.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] velvetleon:
I'm wondering if there will ever be Pinch to zoom on the homescreen like the Desire Roms have and also i'm running Cyanogen 5.0.5 and i use ringo pro which has customized LED colors/notification, but they don't really work with the messages notifications....ANY HELP??
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] nDrg:
lilhermit is releasing Trackball alert which will have the ability to change any notification colour LED once a CM compatable version is released :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=645690
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Mantisen:
Well I do think it's possible to get the pinch-to-zoom effect on the home screens, it's all about someone developing it and that is probably some coding behind.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] ChainsDD:
The N1 trackball drivers only allow the Attention Light (the one that flashes for incoming calls) to flash white or blue. Outside of that, it's very possible that the developer of Ringo Pro is not handling things properly.

This will also have trouble changing the Incoming call flash. The drivers will need to be tweaked for that to happen.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Jrbourque:
If we were able to have pinch to zoom on the nexus builds that would complete that build in my opinion, i would actually pay for that.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Geniusdog254:
Actually we already have full color trackball notifications. Just sayin...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] ChainsDD:
Actually, I wrote the driver that allows for full color trackball notifications. Then Google supplanted mine with their own. There are several 'Logical Lights' These are the lights that the android system tells to light up and it's up to the hardware to determine what to do with these requests. On the N1, the notification, attention, and breathing light are all mapped to the trackball. The notification light (the one that the notification manager uses to display texts/email/missed calls) is passed to the trackball with full color, but the attention light (the one that the phone flashes when it's ringing) is only mapped to show white or blue. White is flashed for most calls and blue is flashed when the phone is paired to bluetooth and the phone is ringing. The breathing light is pulsed when notification manager puts something in the notification bar and the screen is on. It's actuallly mapped to the attention light, so it is also limited to white and blue.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] martin0285:
+1 for Chainsdd and all his work!!!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] velvetleon:
Well the Ringo Pro app has the ability to change the color of the trackball for each individual contact which works fine until the screen is off. It worked well with the previous cyanogen mod (5.0.4.1). when i upgraded its like there is no priority sensor which allows it to completely control the phone vs the new built in led trackball notification alerts. and when i disable sms alerts the color for ringo pro just stop.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] SiNJiN76:
It's only a matter of time...:D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Da_G:
This is a new feature for WP7. An API will be provided for external services to validate that a call is coming from a Genuine Windows Phone. This will be accomplished by a requirement that every phone have a unique certificate applied during manufacturing process (similar to an IMEI, but more than a simple number, an actual .cer)

The certificate is to be stored in the "Device Provisioning Partition" during the manufacturing process and is to be destroyed upon completion of manufacturing. Any time a reflash occurs, a new certificate is to be issued.

This represents a significant change from the existing paradigm as your phone will be instantly uniquely identifiable through this method.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
Is that going to make flashing custom ROMs an issue?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] maharz:
i think it gonna make flashing difficult..

if you flashed with custom, your WP7 would not be taken as genuine hehehe like Windows 7 lol
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ceesheim:
lol then you have to mod your bios.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vangrieg:
On the bright side, we may have fewer reasons to flash custom ROMs on WP7. What are our current reasons for flashing?

1. We need new OS versions on our devices when OEMs don't provide that. Well, this is supposed to be taken care of by centralized update mechanisms for all devices. WP7 will also support partial updates where you don't have to change everything but rather update certain components. Also, firmware files should be replaceable - otherwise OS updates wouldn't work. We'll be less dependant on HTC or whomever.

2. We need components from other devices (newer versions of Manila etc.). Well, these won't exist anymore. :)

3. We want light ROMs. WP7 will need things added, not removed, for the most part, and crapware will be very limited.