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[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] DaReDeViL:
Hi everybody,

I'm still here and the project is still alive ! The problem is that I'm struggling with dependencies problems which I can't solve. when I solve one two others appear. I managed to combine M2.1 with WM6.5 and WM6.5.3 successfully, but with WM6.1 .... I still have hope.

And believe me, as soon as I get a fully working Rom you'll be the first ones to use it

and also if I feel the project is falling down, I'll say it to you to avoid making you wait for nothing !

;)

bye
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] komsa:
....where is 2.1 with 6.5.3.....i would like to try :):):)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] DaReDeViL:
It's a french build, do you need it ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] komsa:
:):):)thanks but no thanks.....i don't understand french:):):)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] DaReDeViL:
Anyway, i've already posted the rom, it's in the same post of the first rom

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=660795
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] komsa:
.....http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=664280.....:):):)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ThaDeanesta:
-Closed-

Closed thread due to not using thread and the -Coming Soon- bogus. Only start a thread if you will be using it. If you feel this is a mistake, please PM me.
[Palm Treo Pro Accessories] nsula:
Has anyone bought an Otter Box case for your Palm Treo Pro? I bought the Defender for my Palm when I bought the phone November 2009. I am a Process Controls Engineer at an Engineered Wood Products mill. This case has stood up to it all! Anyone using their Palm in an industrial or outdoor environment will like.

I recently started using my phone more on the job when I found it had Remote Desktop. I use it to access Wonderware displays and machine logic from my laptop or my desktop in the office. I can also remote into the servers and manage applications.

CT
[Palm Treo Pro Accessories] ooxteme:
freakin love it their warrenty is awsome i can do whatever to it and call them up tell them it failed in some way and in two days i have a brand new one comes in the mail no questions asked!!!
[General Questions and Answers] resh1309:
I am looking for a remote tool to turn of my lights and alarm?

Mostly used for brands like Marmitek and X10.

Is there a tool available?
[General Questions and Answers] resh1309:
Oke thanks.

Is there a tool available?
[General Questions and Answers] Ryan Cordero:
http://www.iphonehomecontroller.com/2009/02/15/iphone_home_controller_21/

Just installed and it works great!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halfmonty:
I've spent the better part of 5 hours trying to come across information on ROM development.

My question is two part. What resources are there available to learn about creating a rom from scratch or editing an existing (including making the update.zip and signing)

Also, I assume the emulator is involved or at least could be. How do you create the system images that you need to create a custom avd from the zip's that you find roms in?

I have a feeling there's a lot I don't know. Perhaps the answer is in front of my face, but I've been looking for a long time and definitely have tried so please don't just say "use the search fuction" or "google it"
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
Devs normally don't like to share the info but there's a guide here:

http://ctso.me/2010/02/building-an-android-rom-–-part-1-5/

But the info is in other places to the google-android page might have some info to. You must be using a linux OS to actually build anything, windows is a no-go...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halfmonty:
Quick and helpful, thanks!

Luckily I did just put the latest ubuntu on my laptop.

If anyone else wants to chime in with some helpful resources please do!

If some annoying little 14 year old made a hero rom, it can't be all that complicated.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
He was just lying, he spammed various threads while talking about other devs.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SpartusTana:
first he's 14 then he's 12...next he'll be a spoiled 8 year old. you just watch. :p

I'm glad I checked this post. I was curious about ROM developing myself. Thanks for the post.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] protomanez:
Is it me, or does that guy have more then one account...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halfmonty:
At the risk of taking this further off topic... what guy?

But really my main concern is how to make a rom so, any other help from anyone would be good. Thanks!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halfmonty:
Bump?

I'm sure somebody knows something
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gurnted:
If you would like to compile android source code (create a rom from scratch) the best place to start would be:

http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?t=2004

or

Chris Soyars' blog: http://ctso.me/2010/01/building-an-android-rom-part-1/

OpenEclair github readme: http://github.com/openeclair/android

Official AOSP Guide: http://source.android.com/download, http://source.android.com/download/using-repo, http://source.android.com/documentat...ding-for-dream

Instructions on creating and signing update.zip files can be in a few places herre on xda. Check the themes section I'm pretty sure I saw a few there.

Install the rom on a handset & do a nandroid backup. It will produce the img files you will need for the AVD
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halfmonty:
Dude, you're awesome, thanks!
[HD2 General] n11:
With all of the credit to JDMinPDX on the T-Mobile Community Forum (HTC HD2) it appears that Voice Command is on the US version of the HD2. He has posted a video but I'm apparently not yet authorized to post links. Would an authorized forum member please post the YouTube link.

I think this is very good news!!!!

By the way...he reports that this is a retail unit that he purchased at Walmart today 3/20/10.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
It is not available yet in the US. No way he purchased it at walmart. Most T-mobile stores says they won't even have them in stock on the 24th and will have to order them.
[HD2 General] n11:
What you are saying makes total sense and it's possible his videos of unboxing, usage, etc. are totally bogus...but...after watching them and reading the thread I believe that it may be true. Watch the video of him using Voice Command. That is the important message here.
[HD2 General] aceo07:
Is this the video you're referring to.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWTBqoZtU1c
[HD2 General] n11:
Yes...and thanks for posting the link.

Wow...I can't even quote the link...I'm way too new on this forum. Maybe if this find is true I'll get the right to post links.
[HD2 General] lbhocky19:
i got it yesterday at walmart and yes it has voice command i tried it out earlier tonight after finding out it had it
[HD2 General] atlaswing:
here's the original thread and youtube links.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-HD2/I-got-one-I-am-now-a-proud-owner-Hint-WalMart/td-p/334068
[HD2 General] DirkyDiggs:
im on Virgin in the UK, I So want this program!!
[HD2 General] bronx:
CALL MOBILE! :D anyway... seems to work allright, could be useful in the car...
[HD2 General] n11:
Thanks for the confirmation.
[HD2 General] Damitu:
Sure, some retailers don't care about the release date as long as they have buyers. Wal-Mart is charging $500 for it and, Radio Shack wants $550.

Spoke to a Radio Shack near my house last night and he said-sure

got one right now....took all the willpower I had not to fly down

there and buy it....

But, didn't....I have had nightmares before returning merchandise

back to RS.. No, I'm going to wait and buy from the retail store

and save myself $200. Buying 2 phones.
[HD2 General] pspbirte:
Somebody, please upload the voice command for the HD2, as a CAB :) .. Would be awesome :D
[Nexus One Accessories] d0ugie:
Hello Google Android world, please welcome this shameful WinMo apostate into your ranks right away because I'm honestly a good guy who wants to start helping you all buy more batteries smartly as, when it comes to capacity claims of everyone other than HTC that I know of so far, you are in a sea of lies and gross exaggerations. I know this from publicly testing ten batteries for the HTC Touch Pro2/Rhodium/Tilt 2, batteries from the same factories that stamped out many of the third party batteries being sold for the N1, including batteries made by Mugen and Seidio.

As of now for the N1 I have tested the OEM which is rated at 1400mAh, two Seidios and an oversized Cameron Sino. At a 250mA current over a discharge from the phone's charging cutoff down to the phone shutdown cutoff (~4.14V and 3.5V respectively), the OEM clocked in at 1357mAh, or 97% of its claimed capacity. That is the best claimed versus actual figure I've seen so far (update: except for a new TP2 2150mAh), though on par with the Touch Pro2's OEMs which I tested, also in the mid 90s. So I say hello a little short on information, inviting any of you who want to help find the truth to let me borrow your batteries to test after which, as I've been doing with the TP2 crowd, I would fedex them right back. Also the information I can bring to the table you can use to get an idea of what to expect from their N1 counterparts.

How this works:

I am using the Computerized Battery Analyzer III. The software which is somewhat sophisticated plots out milliamp hours (mAh) burnt over the descent of voltage from 4.14V to 3.5V, the level of voltage in the batteries at which point the HTC/Google Nexus One and the Touch Pro2s decide to stop charging itself and decide it's time to turn themselves off because they're too low on juice. The CBA software plots out data in graphs, PDFs, CSVs, the whole deal. I hook the batteries up to the CBA which is plugged into my computer. With the software that came with the CBA I have the CBA test the batteries at 250mA, a current in the neighborhood of what the average user would average were he to do his thing (including having push-mail fired up with the screen on bright, downloading and browsing rss feeds, the occasional call, the occasional call being recorded etc) without interruption. Looks a little like this:

I'm not Colombo out to get the third party guys that exaggerate their numbers a little bit nor am I here to rewrite Wikipedia's take on capacity calculation industry standards. You know what? Scratch that, I'm starting to hate these guys, lying and overcharging way too much. If you're a manufacturer or a battery company sympathizer and want to break my balls about voltage cutoffs, read this simple explanation which I feel sums up our position well.

Tl;dr? This is to supply you with information that will help you choose which battery to buy. And to hurt the crooks.

Doug Simmons
[Nexus One Accessories] d0ugie:
Want to help?

First I'd like to thank Sean Graham, Jeremey Riley, Jason Weaver, Shawn Martell and Wade Woosley who've decided to do the following for me with TP2 batteries:

The next time you decide to buy a battery, hit me with a PM first so that I can give you my address. Have the battery shipped to me, I'll test the sucker then I'll hit up FedEx and get it to you asap. I have to test the battery at least three times for posterity so give me three or so days to shoot it over to you. I'll write a bit about how grateful I am you decided to help this project, yada yada, and we'll all be happier as a result. This is very valuable information and I know the batteries are also valuable to you so just borrowing your brand new battery for a little while, I realize, is a tall order. But that's a great way to help everyone out without spending a dime. I'll cover the postage to get it to you, I'm not asking for donations, I just want to run the damn tests.

Already have a third party battery but want me to test it anyway? Yes please, I am still interested in used batteries, including used OEMs to get an idea of longevity.

So once I survey the scene for shopping links I'll use this third post to list the batteries on my Christmas list.
[Nexus One Accessories] ram130:
Interesting post. Keep it up, love the idea behind this. Is it possible for you to determine how long before the n1 battery goes below 60% of its capacity by chance? and is there anyway to best optimize them for longer life?
[Nexus One Accessories] liam.lah:
This is a great reference. thanks

Do you think you can use your machinery to test the difference between two OEM batteries, running different kernels? For example this Undervolted kernel by Kmobs, a lot of people would be interested in seeing hard stats in the difference in battery useage over the stock kernel.
[Nexus One Accessories] rotohammer:
Mugen

I'm not surprised by the issue with The Mugen Power battery. I've had problems with them in the past.

See:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2097942&postcount=47

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2104774&postcount=50

I prefer to see a test done on a customers battery, not hand selected units from the manufacturer.

I felt the same way! And since I've been a Linux user for 15 years, It feels sooo good to be fully Microsoft free!
[Nexus One Accessories] d0ugie:
Damnit damnit, Mugen asked me to test another in case the one they sent was defective, asking that I mail it to them first, and I went ahead and mailed it to them, figuring I had enough data, and this not occurring to me. I didn't send back the counterfeits because I wanted to hang onto evidence for who knows what but it never occurred to me that whoever cooked up their batteries might have actually labeled them with different ratings. That is absolutely stunning. At least we've got the picture you took. Ouch man, that would really have pissed me off if I had bought a battery from a company I thought was reputable and saw that -- on top of the suspiciously underwhelming performance that led me to dissect it.

Still haven't received anything from Mugen, going to follow up with them. Also just let the guy know who bought that battery for me to test to get in on your discovery to find out how he wants to handle this, assuming they send me another. Other than saying they would I don't know why they'd bother.

Thanks for that, huge help, though also a huge disappointment.
[Nexus One Accessories] dahui9:
dude! I love this thread I've always been careful when it comes to batteries, bought the nexus seidio 2800 mah battery and I can say there is no way I'm getting double life that they claim.

That should be the next battery to test out even though they only have the 3200 mah one now.

-Charlie
[Nexus One Accessories] rotohammer:
Let Mugen do the right thing and replace an under performing unit. If they want to play games, I'll have 10 people each buy a Mugen battery, I'll send them to you for testing, then open each of them up on video. If they try to deceive me, I'll setup a website dedicated to exposing any fraud.

Rule: Never piss off a geek with resources to prove a point.
[Nexus One Accessories] ram130:
Thank you so much for your post. I am truely learning alot from you and thank you for the advice. I will be sure to follow them trust me. I got two questions though, do you think its best to charge your phone off or on? Also my battery was at 15% while on a call then I plugged in. After about 10min I hang up and now its charging while on, its been 12min and so for its at a whopping 106* F, really hot..is that normal? I know heat is bad, but I can't do anything to fix it.
[Nexus One Accessories] liam.lah:
What do you mean standalone? i bought a motorola phone charger because the US pins don't fit here, i did notice the output is lower, so i expect long charge time. Is that still going to have the same problem not throttling it down at the end.

I suppose my best bet is a pair of pliers to bend the htc charger pins to fit in our wall sockets.

Also, in regards to heavy, for example navigation+ music in a car. Does having it plugged in to power help with that? what happens when it is simultaneously charging and discharging? I also suppse a good tip is to place the mount in front of an air-conditioning vent too, if it is a warm day, the phone will get super hot in minutes, but if you are air con-ing, it will stay cool.
[Nexus One Accessories] ram130:
Exactly my point. What the hell could be causing it. Today I did a master reset once more, mainly angry with how things where running. Its fast again and so far I have not tried reproducing the situation as yet. I only use GPS for 5min total, mainly for directions. But I'm curious though, I had requested another battery from HTC because the one that came with the phone was losing charge too quickly(10% in hour). So far the new battery was working alot better, but now its the same. I keep hearing people say they get day and half of battery life with regular use and have 3G on. Yet my battery won't pass a day(by night its dead). I only have certain things like news and weather running and refreshing every 3hours to 6hours. I don't have twitter, facebook running or nothing like that. The screen is on auto and it happens wether 3G or EDGE is on. Only 2 hours more with EDGE. Am I doing something wrong? I feel like a complete ediat with two batteries.

I followed all advise, even turn it off during charging. Letting it die completely, tried 4 times this week. Its a regular thing letting it die completely since by the time I'm home I don't charge right way. Mainly because I would be expecting calls. My only option seems to be root unless you can shed some light. I can get a day or more if I leave the brightness on low, no internet or EDGE or no browsing and email syncing, don't fool around with my phone, with only a total of 20min calls during the day. Seems ridiculous to do that since others do ALOT than me and get better battey life. I feel like buy 2 more batteries now..its driving me crazy.
[Nexus One Accessories] d0ugie:
Well sucks. Sorry man.

So you did a hard reset, restoring everything to how it was out of the box, and it still sucks. This might be a longshot but do you happen to be in an area where you typically don't get a full signal? ... and could you see what happens if you go to Settings > About phone > Battery use? It might reveal clues though if you did a hard reset and it didn't help, that suggests some kind of hardware problem I hate to say. Download a battery monitor app and see what kind of temperature you get when using the phone normally. If it's not that high but the thing drains fast, then maybe it's the battery, secondary to what could initially have been a software problem that worked the battery so exhaustingly that it's now behaving like this without the software problem.

That's right though, what people are saying, at least for most of us; I am getting so much better life than I used to on my WinMo phone, free at last. I used to have a second charger, one at my desk, the other by my bed. Not necessary anymore. I bought a spare battery but I haven't had to use it yet. Only used it to run tests for this project.

Any chance you're still under warranty? Don't lose hope just yet man, we might be able to get out of this. Check that battery use thing.
[Nexus One Accessories] ram130:
Well so far its been 1hr 32min since I turned it on. I made 5min call and sen a few texts. I'm 94% now and this is what battery use is showing:

Voice calls 39%

Display 29%

Cell standby 7%

Android system 6%

Phone idle 6%

wifi 4%

Gallery 3% (WEIRD, have not went in there)

Android OS 3%

Google 2%

Current temp: 86.9*

Voltage: 4.0.84v

I took some pictures of it. Please note, to take pics I had to plug in via usb, using the SDK.
[Nexus One Accessories] rotohammer:
Lets have some fun!

I found a brand new Seidio 3200mAh battery from when I had a Motorola Q, and since I have no use for the Q or Verizon, the battery is just screaming "Open Me Up!"

View attachment 299144

Heres whats inside: 3 unmarked cells that are 32x48mm.

View attachment 299145

Compare that with the aprox 52x42mm N1 battery, we can do some math:

32x48 x
------ = ----- x=940mAh/cell * 3cells = 2820mAh total
52x44 1400

Of course this is just an approximation. The cells should be 1066mAh each, and they very well could be. I'm happy to see 3 cells in there :)

The new Seidio N1 battery is 52x44mm 9.5mm thick vs 4.75mm thick for the stock battery.

Simple math here, I bet theres two 1400mAh cells in it :) Although, they do sell a 1600mAh battery, so If thats true, then this battery could have two 1600mAh cells in it.

I weighed each cell in grams:

N1 1400mAh 30g
MQ 3200mAh 56g
N1 3200mAh 58g
N1 2400mAh 51g

Edit: Added Cameron Sino 2400.

Accounting for packaging, It sure looks like the two 3200mAh batteries are really 2800mAh.

View attachment 299146

Lets assume thought that Seidio has higher capacity/gram batteries. This will be proven when it gets tested by d0ugie.
[Nexus One Accessories] jcr916:
I'd contact tech support because Doug is probably right. You have to have either a hardware or software problem that is causing your phone to drain your battery (like GPS is always on, even though it shows it is off).
[Nexus One Accessories] Devastatin:
Is Gallery is activated every time you look up contacts and used for the background?

I think you have your phone searching for signal all time. Go into the wireless settings and click the Only use 2g networks. Only turn it on manually when you want to use 3g.

Tell us how your battery is after that. I suspect you spend some time in areas where the phone is boosting power to get a good signal and its causing battery loss. (BTW, you only get a few hours with the screen on)
[Nexus One Accessories] jcr916:
Maybe you could try using the phone during a typical day, then posting your battery results after 8+ hours of use... that should give us a better idea of where your drain is coming from, but if it is still inconclusive I would still say you should contact tech support.
[Nexus One Accessories] seanowns:
Download Juice Saver. "Ultimate Juice is paid Version"

This app basically shuts off your APN/Data type stuff while the screen is off. It does set it back on once in awhile to grab data, but generally it is off. This is definitely seeming to save battery for me. I used the phone almost identically each of the last 2 days, and I left work at 18% the first day (no JuiceSaver), and left work at 40% Yesterday with JuiceSaver. I listened to exactly the same music, and played the same game for roughly the same amount of time.

It is definitely worth a try, and would enjoy to hear second opinons. On a bad note, I cant seem to purchase the Ultimate Juice. Just wont take my credit card for UK purchases.
[Nexus One Accessories] d0ugie:
I think you mean JuiceDefender (free) and UltimateJuice ($3.72). Just installed the free one and yeah this thing looks great and ultimatejuice definitely worth four bucks because something that does these things, especially if you can define everything as you can apparently in UltimateJuice, that will buy you a lot more mileage without lessening your phone experience, no question. Me, I'm pretty happy with the battery performance and for some neurotic reason I like that data connection open all the time.

Might buy it anyway. Paperdroid looks like something I'd want too.
[Nexus One Accessories] liam.lah:
on an average day in summer in Western Australia, the inside of a car can get well over 50c, i have plugged put my phone in its mount before, got in the car, and by the time i have turned the engine on, the phone is hot to the touch. Here at least, The placement of your phone in regards to air conditioning is important.

Do you mean it is bad for the battery longevity in that cycle or through it's life?