[HD2 General] Muscleboy:
HTC HD2 Tmobile

The price for the HTC HD2 Will be 449 and the Motorola Cliq XT, realeased the same day will be 339(not as sure about that. I called T-mobile and they swore up and down that there was no date-certain for release but it has been confirmed by other sources that both phones will be in store on March 24th.

I like T-Mobile for service quality and overall costs. It has good internet and good phone. But calling their customer service can be like playing Russian roulette. Some times you get people that seem like they are working for a criminal organization and others you get people that really know their stuff and make any problem go away.

With t mobile I would still recommend sticking with the everything plus program they have it's good and there is no contract(good to know you can leave anytime if t-mobile takes a nose dive with customer service). You can get a phone with no interest payments over 20 months. Great idea t-mobile had but beware they have stripped away things like my-favorites so you don't get unlimited mobile to mobile unless it's tmobile. But there default rates are lower than the other competitors. Service wise I put them way up there.

I liked Verizon but disliked their customer service and policies that always seemed to tend to rip you off. If they get their prices down and stop scamming I might go back to them one day. I do wish all carriers would switch to GSM and the government made it so any phone made could be used on any network in the USA or Europe, partly also a matter of the equipment vendors adding in multiple radios AND GIVING OUT THE CODE SO HACKERS CAN MODIFY AND IMPROVE THINGS... this makes me want to buy a phone if it's locked off in some way I won't buy the phone at all. Good hackers(I don't mean crooks) help make our lives so much better. I hope HTC continues to let out it's roms and codes and Motorola stops blocking it. At this point I won't buy another Motorola until I see them stop this practice. I was glad to see a US company come out of the ashes of defeat but they are playing much more to the control freaks at Verizon and subverting customer interests-- not good. MAKE ALL FEATURES FULLY AVAILBLE. Heaven's sakes we got full Androad working on the old HTC Touch there is no reason they can't put out the Cliq Android 2.1 rom tomorrow with all the bells and whistles fully working including Flash 10 and Google's turn by turn. Google also should put out a Windows Mobile turn-by-turn or people should consider boycotting all Google products. That's just monopolistic anti-consumer behavior to have google undermining Windows Mobile(why is it I can write a GPS program in 3 hours that will get 8 satellites instantly locked on a cloudy day with my curtains down and quite some ways away in my bed but I can't get googlemaps(winmo version) to lock even one satellite unless I'm outdoors and even then it takes a while. I think they might be subverting Windows Mobile. Just like I found out that Telenav on the Motorola cliq was ruining one's ability to get sat locks so I had to have it removed from memory(one thing I hate about Android is it allows things to just run in memory without your permission so you end up with loads of progs running and eating up the ram). Android runs on Linux which is cool but they messed up some of it for no apparent reason.

We have such a crooked system in the USA we have to wait years to get phones the Europeans have and ironically it's often underlying US technology and engineering.