yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Eris Android Development] scary alien:
Newer trackball-optional version available (based off of 1.7.1 recovery.c)

All,

I have updated my original post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9124095&postcount=83 to include a new version based off of the 1.7.1 recovery.c source code.

I'll let you read the details in the post, but suffice to say that the new version restores some functionality not present in the 1.6.2 recovery.c source (namely, the Partition sdcard menu items).

Let me know if you have questions. Thanks!
[Droid Eris Android Development] MissNinjaKittie:
I was wondering if there is an "official" process to using this? I've found several processes that vary pretty widely and was wondering what's a good one? Some use fastboot via a PC, some use a console on the phone itself. Since I can't post links, I've found a YouTube video by EmoGamer and an article in android-dls's wiki.

I was also wanting to confirm my understanding of what this is for. I'm looking to root and upgrade my Eris to a 2.2 ROM. It sounds like I need to root my phone, get this on there, take a backup of my current setup, upgrade, then I could switch between my original ROM and the new one. Is that about right?

Thanks!
[Droid Eris Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
First off, not trying to be an ass, but there is a reason this thread says Read First listed on that page is a link to jcase's 1 Click Eris Root it will automatically install AmonRA's Recovery for you. Before you run 1 Click, have saved on your SD card, at the root not in any folder, a custom ROM you would like to run.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zaith1234:
Trackball doesn't scroll up or down on two Phones

I have an issue where I can not use the track ball to go up and down on 2 phones. The only thing I can use the track ball for is press which just reboots the phones because thats what is highlighted. My phone has been rooted for a few months and i didnt notice this issue until today on it. I rooted another phone that was givin to me today and now I am having the same issue on it as well. I have reflashed the the one I just rooted but I am getting the same issue. Has anyone else had this issue and is there a work around or fix?

Never mind i found a possible fix searching the forums http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=760080&highlight=trackball
[Droid Eris Android Development] scary alien:
Well, you don't have to use ClockworkMod (which is reported to sometimes have issues on the Eris).

You can still use Amon_RA's recovery...see this post here in this same thread: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9124095&postcount=83 about a version I tweaked-up that doesn't rely on the trackball.

Hope this helps and good luck!

Edit: By the way, if you do use this you'll probably want the recovery-RA-eris-v1.6.2-trackball-optional.img version.

2nd Edit: Also, in case you haven't already tried it, there are a few ways to clean your trackball. See this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6oz_FHz0O8 referenced here http://androidforums.com/eris-tips-tricks/114731-trackball-cleaning.html (even though its shown using a BlackBerry, the principle is the same for the Eris). Good luck!
[Droid Eris Android Development] waffleb051:
im getting an error whenever i try to back up or restore any ideas of how to fix this?
[Droid Eris Android Development] sk842018:
You might wanna make sure your battery is charged. If not it will give error
[Droid Eris Android Development] fo0you:
also, make sure you have enough space available on your SD card to store the backup
[Droid Eris Android Development] SicNside:
This is why i state alot that most should learn how to use adb if they plan on rooting, even if for some reason its not the battery or space on sdcard you can still perform it using adb. Or atleast find the problem
[Droid Eris Android Development] elpavomundy:
I know it sounds silly but how do I install????? Lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
You can read a little, I'm sure there must be instructions somewhere hereabouts.
[Droid Eris Android Development] LyuboLove:
Restoring rooted 2.1

I downloaded this as part of the 1 click root app. It's cause me lots of problems and now I have followed the instructions on this site to restore my stock 2.1-androidheadlines . com

When I start up my phone and follow their instructions, your system recovery pops up. When I to go "Flash zip from sdcard" it finds the update.zip file, but tell me that "E: No signature (690 files) E: Verification failed." How can I fix this?
[Droid Eris Android Development] bftb0:
Learn how to download ROM files (and/or transfer them to your phone from your PC) without truncating or corrupting them - either that or avoid using "off-brand" ROMs which are unsigned. 100% of the devs that publish ROMs on this (XDA Eris) forum sign their ROMs, so if you are using a ROM from this site, the error message you report indicates you are failing to correctly download or transfer ROM files to your phone.

You can use the free market app "AFV" (Android File Verifier) to check the "jar file" signature of a ROM file you downloaded/copied to your phone - that will save you the trouble of booting into the recovery only to find that you have a corrupted file.

While you are at it, you might want to do some reading on what a MD5 signature is, how to go about computing it, and how to properly use the "safely remove hardware" control on the PC when transferring files via USB to the phone.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Tarpit_Carnivore:
Is there a major need to update this? Mine has been working fine and everything I use (nand restore, nand backup, battery/dalvik/dat wipe) works perfectly fine.
[Droid Eris Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Not a major need, though Amon did mention the update will be able to flash from a directory. I know my sdcard will be cleaner :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Tarpit_Carnivore:
Thanks i guess I'm just paranoid about messing up my recover. Is this as simple as replacing the img file on the sd root.
[Droid Eris Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Well, its like 3 lines in adb or terminal emmulator, pretty straight forward, and if something does go wrong the compartmentalization of Android is your friend, as long as your not touching any other partition, just try again :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Tarpit_Carnivore:
Thanks, I'll just go follow the same steps I did with the first one.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Acton_Minuteman:
Confirming a NAND Backup

With KaosFroyo V39 my NAND backups suffer from consistency. Sometimes NAND restores correctly the ADWSettings other times I must reinstall ADW Launcher, then manually restored ADW backup settings/desktop.

I read several very old NAND web posts (sorry I didn't save their links) suggesting that certain actions require additional time to complete than simply clicking the trackball.

One post in particular sticks in my mind which stated you needed to boot into recovery. There was a difference between powering off the phone plus booting into recovery versus rebooting into recovery.

When I first began using RA-eris-v1.6.2, I maybe made one NAND backup each week and never tested them. Now, whenever I make any application or widget changes, I made a NAND backup, then immediately test by restoring it.

Reboot to Recovery

NAND Backup

Wipe data/factory reset

Wipe Dalvik-cache

NAND Restore

Other- Move recovery.log to SD

Reboot system now

Assuming my phone/hardware is ok, is there any reason why the above sequence should not work all the time?

Thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
You might could find an answer here.

Or at least do a little troubleshooting, have you even tried a different launcher? It might just turn out to be an issue specific to ADW.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Acton_Minuteman:
fyi - thanks for not yelling at me for double posting as the thread below was started by me.

If there was a significant problem with the ADW launcher coupled with KaosFroyo and using Rmon_RA, then I might expect to find links in the KaosFroyo and/or Amon_RA recovery threads documenting the need to specifically do a backup/restore directly from the ADW settings after completing a NAND restore.

For whatever reason, I appear to be part of a small minority that has issues with NAND backup/restore with KaosFroyo. I have a technical background in systems engineering and for the last several weeks have methodically worked on this problem.

As part of the little bit of troubleshooting that USSENTERNCC1701E suggests, I found some very old web posts suggesting that the hardware boot sequence might impact creating a good NAND backup. I asked a very specific question as to whether my documented sequence is correct and should work.

Again, as part of the little bit of troubleshooting, there are a fair number of ADW Launcher specific web posts documenting the potential need to do a backup/restore directly from ADW Settings. My Droid Eris is stable and I am able to backup and restore with these additional steps.

I ask why me or why so few users have NANDROID backup/restore issues with the ADW Launcher and is it somehow hardware specific to my phone? Between now and January 16th, I can upgrade my Droid (for the cost of the upgrade) or wait 7 more months.

I'll ask my question again in a different way. Does anyone test their NANDROID backup immediately after making it to confirm that it is good? What specific sequence do you use to test it?

Thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
I don't. I just save the last five or so Nandroid backups for each ROM that I run and think that there may even be a remote chance I will go back to. I usually run a backup when I am switching to another ROM, so I'll restore back if I switch back later on. If the latest doesn't work, I'd just restore the one before that. If none of them worked, I'd just restore, wipe data, load Titanium and restore my apps that way. I have never had a problem with a Nandroid Restore, by the way.

Also, I use LauncherPro Plus, and have never had trouble with a restore from that. Maybe you should try out a different launcher?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Tiras007:
I have a problem with installing KaosFroyo V39.

Selecting install zip from sdcard installation went.

But after a reboot, HTC Eris hangs for a long time when he wrote "Android". Now do not even know what to do. I don't have Backup.

Please help in this situation. I am in a panic.

Sorry for my English.
[Droid Eris Android Development] SicNside:
If your talking about when it hangs in the boot screen (black screen displaying android) than that's normal. It can somtimes take up to 10 mins, but only takes a while for the first time you boot up after flashing. Ohh and I hope you did a full wipe ( factory reset) before flashing
[Droid Eris Android Development] Tiras007:
1) I am wait ~35 minutes.

2) I don't do full wipe. How can i do it on this situation?
[Droid Eris Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Just boot into recovery, do a full wipe (Dalvik and Factory/Data) this time, and reflash the ROM.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Tiras007:
I do it! Thank you USSENTERNCC1701E and SicNside.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Nikolai2.1:
whatever happened to this? lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] oneders65:
old recovery to new where trackball is not required

I am trying to update my RA recovery to a newer RA recovery that does not require the trackball. Am I correct that all I have to do is flash the newer RA recovery in the current AR recovery? If not how is the best way to update my RA recovery??
[Droid Eris Android Development] scary alien:
oneders65,

Check out my thread over on AF (http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/214240-amon_ra-1-6-2-custom-recovery-trackball-not-required.html) for some installation options and instructions.

The instructions for Android SDK / adb-savvy users are at the bottom of the first post in that thread.

Cheers!
[Droid Eris Android Development] oneders65:
Worked like a charm. Thanks big time!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] wpbear:
I have moved most of my apps2SD on my ROM (GSB CyanogenMod 7).

I tried a nandroid in RA Recovery 1.6 and it completes ok.

When I try a Nand + ext backup I get error "Run 'nandroid-mobile.sh' via adb!"

First question: Do I need to do a Nand + ext?

Second Question: How do I fix this error?
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
No. Nand+ext is used when you have partitioned your card for an apps2sd technique typically used on 2.1 based ROMs. Starting with Froyo, Android creates a folder called .android_secure (because it's name starts with a period, it is typically hidden in directory listings, unless you specifically set the listing to show hidden files and directories) on your SD card for apps2sd instead. In fact, the Froyo and GB ROMs will tend not to mount the SD card at all if there is an ext2, ext3, or ext4 partition in addition to the standard FAT32 partition.

Short answer: Nandroid backup in Amon_RA will backup your phone, but will not back up the .android_secure folder in which your apps are stored. Nandroid+ext will not change this.

If you use ROM Manager and have it flash Clockwork (it will not replace Amon_RA, but instead will create a flashable file called update.zip that ROM Manager can call on a reboot command) and backup from within ROM Manager, though, it will also backup the .android_secure folder. Again, the Nandroid backup in Amon_RA will not back up that folder (or anything else on the FAT32 partition).
[Droid Eris Android Development] wpbear:
That is a really good explanation thank you. If I need to use the cwm backup will I be able to use RA to restore the cwm nandroid?

Sent from Droid Incredible using TapaTalk Pro
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
No, I tried that and it didn't work. However, when you use ROM Manager to "flash" Clockwork, what it does is to put a file called update.zip on the SD card. You can always get to Clockwork by starting Amon_RA, choose "Flash a zip" menu and choose "update.zip". This will then start Clockwork within Amon_RA, and you can restore those Nandroids from there.

Another advantage to Clockwork is the wipe data option also wipes .android_secure, which Amon_RA does not do. You can then get back to Amon_RA by going to the Advanced menu in Clockwork and choosing restart recovery. I don't really like flashing ROMs with Clockwork, though, because it doesn't check the zip file before starting the flash. If you have an incomplete download, I prefer Amon_RA, which does a signature check on the zip file of the ROM.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tsaxda:
My Eris is running gsb 3.4 which supports moving all apps to SD including system apps.
[Droid Eris Android Development] scary alien:
LOL, quoting jamezelle's post from 19th March 2010, 06:12 PM (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5928779&postcount=26)? ;) :p :)

There's been lots of activity since then (lots and lots of new ROMs) and even cache2cache that was adopted pretty early by Zach.xtr to help give folks more app space. A lot has happened since then...

Cheers!
[Droid Eris Android Development] hallstevenson:
I presume support for the ERIS is at a standstill and this tool won't be updated... I know other phones have gotten an update that includes, among other things, the ability to navigate the SD card. Can be handy if you forgot to move a flashable file to the root folder... :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] ebuzz:
Just flashed my Sprint EVO 4G gingerbread and was wondering if this can be used with that phone.
[Droid Eris Android Development] scary alien:
No, this version of Amon_RA's custom recovery is specific to the HTC Droid Eris.

Check out this thread in your phone's development forum regarding custom recoveries:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=701245

It lists these two:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=705026

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=702214

Good luck.

Cheers!
[Droid Eris Android Development] ebuzz:
Thanks! I'll do some reading, but so far, it looks a lot more complicated than it did when I flashed on my Windows Mobile phone.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zaaye:
How can i get armon recovery for my eris. I can not find file
[Droid Eris Android Development] TheGratefulDead:
Use the one click root app form the market
[Droid Eris Android Development] scary alien:
The original Amon_RA recovery is downloadable from the first post of this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5908078&postcount=1

Also, if you're trackball gives you problems, check out this thread, too:

http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/214240-amon_ra-1-6-2-custom-recovery-trackball-not-required.html

^^ this is also discussed and referenced here at XDA:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9124095&postcount=83

Cheers!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Jaxellis:
Anyone have these files anymore? All download links are dead :/
[Droid Eris Android Development] doogald:
Scary Alien developed a better version of Amon_RA Recovery for the Eris (with Amon_RA's permission) which, among other improvements, allows the use of the hardware buttons to control Recovery rather than just the trackball - some people have issues with the trackball.

You can find it here: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-t...2-custom-recovery-trackball-not-required.html

If you are not yet rooted, he even has a modified copy of JCase's 1-click root app (see Scenario 5).

Download links all work. ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Jaxellis:
Thanks! and yes i got root already :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] scary alien:
Long live the Eris!

:) :) :)
[G1 Accessories] oreoOozZz:
All these batteries + G1 Dock with 2nd slot battery charger = WIN.

So. Many. Batteries.

Just got my other two in from ebay at $4 a pop. They were supposed to be OEM replacements but to my suprise, one of them says "1300mAh Replacement Battery For HTC G1". The other looks like a replica of an OEM battery but you can tell its not OEM. For $8 for both though, who really cares? lol, here's some pics of all my batteries.

"OEM" Replacements From Ebay At $4 A Pop.

Seidio 2600mAh With Extended Back Door $50

Andida "1600mAh" Extended Batteries (2) They are $10 each but i got em $10 for both ;)

And of course, my stock OEM pos bloated HTC battery but you all know what that looks like.

Think i got enough Juice?

:p
[G1 Accessories] revwillie:
Impressive. I also have a 'defective' andida that I charge with an external charger. I have one of those white label batteries that came with one of my external chargers. It's a good emergency battery, but inferior to the OEM. I have a Seido 1400 that works pretty well. The Seido and the Andida seem to last about the same time in the phone. I still use the OEM even though it started bulging a bit. I hope that doesn't mean it's about to explode.

Depending on usage, I can rotate out all four batteries in a single day. The new radio has improved battery life, though.
[G1 Accessories] G1ForFun:
How do they perform?
[G1 Accessories] oreoOozZz:
Yea, i was gonna spring for the Seidio 1400 but for the price, i just spent a couple more dollars and got the 2600 Extended at the time. My OEM battery is buldgy as a mofo too, that sh!t scares me sometimes lol. It dies so quick, its ridiculous.

There is no words for the Seidio 2600, that thing is a beast. 3 days easy with everything on. The Andidas last about a day and a half with heavy usage and some things turned off. The others i havent tested yet and the OEM is garbage, lasts about 4 hours max with LIGHT usage.
[G1 Accessories] protomanez:
I have no plans on making my G1 a super brick...yet.
[G1 Accessories] Ace42:
Hey do you have a link for the andida battery, I cant find'em anywhere .:o
[G1 Accessories] oreoOozZz:
and you shouldnt have to when they have these slim extended batteries that fit with the extended cover now because believe me, those things turn your phone into the only brick.

Unforunately, he stopped selling them after the whole fiasco he went through with getting a bad batch and sending it out to everyone then having to replace them all...he just called it quits. =\

If you wanna see exactly what im talking about, just read up on the Andida 1600mAh Battery thread, its like 50 pages long from various XDA members including myself waiting months and months and months for a working $10 extended battery...it was crazy.

On another note though, i've heard there are other 1600mAh extended batteries on ebay so just do a search and they should come up. I think i remember one guy telling me about "Ecell" extended batteries? Give it a go and let us know how it goes.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] krjcook:
I just read a article about WP7S regarding multitasking. This was posted by L3v5y. For those who don't know L3v5y, he is a well known dev/cook/moderator on XDA-Dev's and a Editor for WMPoweruser

Here it is quote for quote

Here's the link: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=14400
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sids911:
Hmmm,

That makes sense. Till MS messes up their multitasking approval process.

For apps like Pandora, there definitely is a need for multitasking, and I agree with game apps suspended to conserve up on battery life and OS usability.

Normal joe isnt too good with the concept of killing apps!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] style1:
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Also in video form HERE Fast foward to about 6:25 to here the MS thoughts on Multitasking

~style1~
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Jaxbot:
Let's hope Microsoft doesn't get too overkill with application approval process.

Apparently, college (DreamSpark) students will have the developer fees already paid for them, but I'm not sure about each individual application.

And yes, the system does support multitasking, so I guess it is just disabled if not needed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQwzgNVVlc
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] WhyBe:
I don't see how that's going to stop users from running several multitasking programs :confused: Is MS just trying to reduce the likelihood of that happening ?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gom99:
I wonder if they'd let me make an app that could always run in the background that I could use for transferring text data from one application to another. I'm having trouble thinking of a name for it though...

Joking aside, this is good news, I can live with having a rationale for multitasking.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] krjcook:
I already watched that, Engadget is in my RSS feeds. Apparently the platform supports multitasking, but not in the traditional sense. He's basically saying that it's not a Desktop enviroment, the multitasking you need on a mobile platform isn't as deep.

It will load web pages in the background while in another app.

Media application will continue to play in the background

No need to keep resource hogging apps running, will pause when not using. (Games, etc.)

Video won't play in the background, but what's the point of doing that anyway?

Dev's that want their app to run in the background must be have their app approved by MS.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] DMAND:
Nice write up by l3v5y,

The only apps that really need to run in the background are music apps, web browsers maybe
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] krjcook:
MS is heavily backing on Push Notifications for those kind of apps. There paused, but will continue to notify you, not to sure how that works.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gom99:
I was just joking, the name for the app would be clipboard :).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] krjcook:
I'm guessing that if MS only limits what app can and can't multitask then it will stop that situation. It looks like only important things like Web browsing, GPS, Calls and other the limited apps they allow will multitask. They seem to want to pause things like gaming, e-reading, and other apps that serve no purpose when not using.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] X-BLADE™:
According to the video in this article, WM7 will also allow IE to load pages even if navigate away to the main menu, which is some form multi-tasking.