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[Touch CDMA Android Development] lordcalin:
I'm using warm donut, flashed to the phone.. before hand I was using haret until I felt everything was stable enough.

My SD card is still partitioned the old way, 7.4GB fat32, 512M ext3, 32M swap

Is there a way to enable app2sd with warm donut so I can get more room? it might just be the fun of something new for now, but watching the free space for apps going down way to quickly :P
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrono:
i second this, I would love to do apps to SD
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
I think it should be do-able now that we have the automount program that allows access sd card system and user simultaneously.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] fixxxer2008:
yeah you guys would love apps2sd...it's cool on my hero! im glad to see all of the android development going on here. ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] polyrhythmic:
If you guys want to do Apps2SD, you'll need an ext2 partition on your SD for it. Native Android devices have had some trouble with Apps2SD, so it's just been rewritten by Chris Soyars and Cyanogen -- instead of the WesGarner method that had been used previously. I suggest using their code as it's battle-tested.

Here's the relevant code at github, as you can see it's been recently updated:

http://github.com/cyanogen/android_vendor_cyanogen/tree/eclair/prebuilt/common/etc/init.d/

HTH :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I have app2sd enabled in my eclair build.

If you want to use it you must have an ext2 parition on your sdcard. than use my spareparts app to enable. Reboot.. wait... and there you go.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrono:
Can we get this going in your build Myn?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] aviking:
Did a search for spareparts and couldnt find a link to a download. Anybody have a link they could throw up that would be awesome.

Thanks in advance
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrono:
It's something that's built into the build, for msi's eclair he's got some extra things built into it. But it's not something you can just download
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i have the apps2sd.apk but it doesnt work properly. like you said i think it needs to be built into a build somehow
[Touch CDMA Android Development] aviking:
Thanks for the quick reply.

This is starting to be not worth it and I am thinking I am glad that I was able to try android on an older phone because I dont think I will be getting an android phone when I upgrade in 6 months. Getting it so I can load apps to the sd card is WAAAAAAY to much of a pain I have tried a couple of tutorials and still cant get it to work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
All you need to do is create a ext2 partition on your card and install system to nand and data to ext 2 partition. You can create as big of a partition as you want.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] aviking:
Thanks for the super fast repsonse

I used gparted to create the partition and formated it to ext2.

The second part you are talking about install the system to nand and data to the ext2 partition. I have installed Myn’s Warm Donut - [RLS 4 - 03/16/2010] nand version and thats where I am at right now. Do I need to move the data folder to the ext2 partition that I created? If yes when I connect to my PC running windows 7 I cannot see the ext2 partition that I created with gparted.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i think you will have to reinstall system and wipe data. Change the location of the data when your going to reinstall. sorry
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrono:
use the norootfs installer and set your data to NAND, hit data backup, then set your data to ext2 and hit data restore.

Windows can't read ext2 on it's own
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
there you go much better answer then mine. Thanks man
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
would using ext2 partions make the build run smoother?

what are the benifits over NAND?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
are you sure you need to have your data on the sd card? I was running apps2sd with mssmison's v7 eclair, and both my data and system were on nand, only the apps2sd was using the ext2 partition. i don't think it cares where your data.img is, just as long as you have an available ext2 partition; correct me if I'm wrong.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
yes that is correct. This is if your not using apps2sd
[Touch CDMA Android Development] aviking:
Ok making progress with your suggestion after 2 days of reading and failure -- lol.

I am now able to install apps to the sd card. However when I was trying all kinds of things to get this to work I made my 8GB sd card partitioned 6.5gb fat 32 and then made two ext2 partitions evenly split.

So do I need two ext partitions?

And as soon as I made the change and was able to install to the sd card I can no longer sync with my PC. Its not a huge deal because I took out the micro sd and placed it into an sd reader and my PC could still read it. So I am guessing that its something that I changed that is causing the phone not to sync with my PC.

Any thoughts
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
make sure that your fat 32 partition is the 1st partition and the ext2 are 2nd and 3rd.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrono:
I just find it easier to do the data on the ext2 or data.img on the SD card until myn implements Apps2SD in his release, rather then mess around with trying to do Apps2SD on my own
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
let's just be clear, though, just because you locate your data.img on the sdcard or on an sdcard ext2 partition does not mean you have any of the benefits of apps2sd. a data.img has a specified size which you are limited to (usually either 128 or 256mb) no matter where it is stored. apps2sd moves the apps out of the data.img, into the ext2 partition, and you can store apps to your hearts content up to the size of that ext2 partition. so, I don't really see any benefit of just changing where your store your data.img . . .
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrono:
Well you say that yet I had my data on NAND and ran out of space, rebooted and did the backup/restore and moved it to Ext2 and the booted and continued installing apps and haven't run out of space. I have a 500mb Ext2 partition and when i go into settings it says Available Space: 317MB. Take from that what you like.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
yep, 390mb free here
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
WOW

im definitely doing an Ext2 partition then
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrono:
Report back if it changes for you please :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
it may be that nand data is limited to 128, you are still only going to get 256 with the sd card. better, but not apps2sd.

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[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
i dont know how it would run with apps2sd but when i first started out with nand a put data on sdcard, but then i switched it to nand so i could unmount my sdcard. the speed is alot better with data on nand. and i have a good sdcard so thats not it. incubus said that with apps2sd it doesnt make it slower, is this true?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
Nand data is definitely limited to 128MB with our nbh.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lordcalin:
not sure what i'm doing wrong...

I tried the original you guys were talking about... have my SD card partitioned as ...

/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 - 6.5GB fat32

/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 - 512M ext2

/dev/block/mmcblk0p4 - 32M swap

Originally when I started it was p2 and p3 instead of p3 and p4 ... the change will be explained...

When I set it to do data on ext2 data.img, it created a 256M file on the fat32 inside /andboot called data.img and started using that.

So I tried 'on SDcard partition' and it said mmcblk0p3 had not enough space.. which was when I went in with terminal and repartitioned it as 3 and 4... when I went back to the install menu, it appeared to work, but then comes up during boot unable to load data onto SD without SD partition.

so not sure how you guys are getting it onto ext2 with 512M free :/ as none of the options give me more then 256M

On the plus side... I did discover you can do all your formatting and partitioning right inside android itself, rather then using sdcard adapter and gparted or Paragon... all it takes is the magical word 'su' as soon as terminal get's opened, and then 'umount /sdcard' to unlock it for any changes your gunna make.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] garringm:
There is an unorthodox way that I do it to add "app" space to my full NAND sense build but it does away with installing any apk to nand. I don't know how it does with running games because everything is installed to fat32 partition I'm not a big gamer that's what gaming consoles are for
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lordcalin:
Finally got it!

cleared the entire sd card of all partition info, created fat, and 2 ext2 (both 512M) then installed to Sdcard partition in nomorootfs.

Checking the actual mount tables it is definately using /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 for /data ... now to figure out shrinking down the second one, and increasing the first and third... or just living with 512M of space missing..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceo.mtcl:
I recently put my HTC Pure on craiglist for trade with iPhone. I got response from one girl who wants to trade her iphone 3G 8GB (she said she bought it 3 months back) with my HTC Pure.

I have less than a day to make this decision. And now I am so confused... Should I do this trade? Is it a fair deal?

A few more questions (may be this is not the right place to ask these questions but if anyone has any idea then please let me know.)

1. Is there a forum as good as xda-developers.com for iPhone? If yes then what is it?

2. Can I use my current ATT Phone Simcard into iPhone without buying the costly dataplan?

3. How will I make sure that the iPhone is not stolen one?

4. I have heard about "iPhone Clones". How to make out the difference between iPhone and "iPhone Clone"
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orb3000:
No way!!!

I wouldn´t do it
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceo.mtcl:
Any Specific reason m8? I know I love my Pure and I am a big WM! I am doing this deal because I already have one more WM phone (ATT Tilt Kaiser) and now I want to see why does everyone talk about iPhone a lot.

There has to be something... Dont you think?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoss_n2:
do it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiks19018:
is she local? if so, meet at a AT&T store and do the deal there....compare her iphone with the one in the store and find out if hers is a clone or not.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htc fan89:
3G has a slow processor, and No real multi tasking. it's going be a downgrade for you, that's what i think. Lol. don't get sucked in with the candy clothed games;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceo.mtcl:
Do you know how slow the processor is?

I mean do you have an idea about the specifications of iPhone 3G processor vs. HTC Tilt?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demonic_pascal:
I got both the 3G and the Pure, so I can comment on this

HTC is a work phone. Its designed to get stuff done. Office Mobile, multitasking, not to mention the inherent flexibility of WM. As a Pure owner, I'm sure you're aware of all of this.

All of this will be GONE on the iPhone. In its place will be a a great phone to consume media, HUGE selection of applications, a much more responsive touchscreen, and pretty much the best media experience on a phone.

What you gotta decide is which one of those things are more important to you. I couldn't decide on either, so I have been jumping back and forth for the past two months as what I need to get done with my phone changes.

Though, with the recent BS patent lawsuit from Apple, I havent been able to look at my iPhone or MacBook Pro the same way since...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cyberdroxxx:
I sold away my iPhone 3G after 3 months of having it. I need compatible Windows phone that will work with my PC so I stick to my Diamond2, TouchPro2 and 838Pro. For truly screen display, I have the Samsung Pixon 12 and OmniaII with AMOLED display which are very good in bright sunlight. For 12MP photo snapshots I have the Sony Ericsson Satio and the Samsung Pixon to do the job if I don't have my DSLR with me. The iPhone doesn't come close to any of these phones that are definite keepers for me. Therefore I sold the iPhone away without any regret. Talking about video calls on iPhone??? Apple have to do something about it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wineds:
I agree with demonic_pascal. We have both in my familly and I know what I prefer. Ever tried to to transfer files to/from the iphone? Its a PITA bigtime. I don't agree with comments about the media experience etiher. The Topaz will play far more file formats than the iPhone. If you are looking for a game console then get the iphone. If you want a phone that gets thigns done stick with teh Topaz.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] super114:
2. Can I use my current ATT Phone Simcard into iPhone without buying the costly dataplan?

I dont think this is possible, cuz once the sim card is put into the phone, it will automatically update your phone to ATT database and you will force buy a data plan. You can try to unlock your iphone, I heard this works, but not so sure though.

4. I have heard about "iPhone Clones". How to make out the difference between iPhone and "iPhone Clone"

There are several post online that show you how to spot a fake iphone. Generally, the cover is not as polish, the Apple logo, the fine print on the back, the screen size.

The iphone is the good phone, it has a fast processor that runs games and app smoothly but I still wouldn't make the trade though. First, the Iphone 3G now is kinda obsolete. Second, she said that you have one day to make the trade, did she give you the good reason? If not, most of the time people just want to scam you so they put the time limit to make you think its a good deal. So just make sure that its real, tell her to post proof and ask her why the rush? Lastly, the ideal of owing an Iphone is just not that intriguing to me.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snerism:
Never dream of it!

You'll regret it m8.. don't do it!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceo.mtcl:
Lol Already sold my Pure for 300.

Now buying the iPhone in 270 from a local store. Lets see what happens.

I will post my experience. But I am still a XDA coz I have a TILT :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceo.mtcl:
Got rid of iphone. But I will say it is a lot better and finger friendly operating system than windows mobile. Bought htc hd 2 thereafter but sold that too eventually... After using iphone I can't use windows mobile lol.

Right now I have google nexus one. Wow... I love this phone more than any thing ever! Android is the best operating system. It is as finger friendly as iphone and you can customize it like windows mobile.

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[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ArtieQ:
Answer is no even tho you already made the deal. Just buy an iPod Touch and have it as mp3/video player+internet+twitter+facebook+email. I got a TD2 right now together with an iPod and I think it's a nice combination because I waste my battery in less than 6 hours if I start listening to music or watch videos.

I will get a HD2 later on tho but I will only use it for telephone, internet, email, sms, videos and all that stuff. iPod as mp3 player, always.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pcrat:
Iphone has about 400 times more apps and games. the 8 gig is slower but the 32gig and 64 are faster better hardware. if it were my i would trade my pure for the iphone 8gig. I have an ipod 32 gig i compared it next to my buddys 32gig iphone. as for app launching etc.. they were pretty much equal.. but my daughters 8 gig ipod next to my pure the the ipod is faster as in moving around and lauching most apps.

but hey. good luck
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] fesstech:
In a quest to make google voice (GV) just as good, or better, than sprint visual voicemail, do the following:

1.) setup call forwarding in GV so you keep the functionality of your sprint number and set up your greeting.

2.) under voicemail settings in GV, check send sms to your (sprint) number. uncheck send email. (by using the sms feature, you will get an 'instant' GV app notification on your phone. Otherwise, the shortest refresh interval for the GV app is 5 min, and it will take 5 min for GV app to notify you. By unchecking email setting in GV you will not get an additional notification via email on your phone if you sync to gMail like i do)

3.) download/install the GV app from the market. Set it up on your phone and choose a 60min refresh interval, just for good measure.

4.) Disable the default messaging notification, since you will use Handcent instead.

5.) Download/install Handcent.

6.) place a program shortcut to GV app on your homescreen, similar to the default Visual Voicemail shortcut

7.) call yourself from another phone and leave a voicemail. You will see that you get an SMS and a GV app notification.

8.) Finally, blacklist your GV number within Handcent.

You will now have near instant GV app notification of a voicemail. And there will be no redundant SMS or email notification of a voicemail. Go to your GV app shortcut just like you would Sprint Visual Voicemail.

Now you have 'Visual Voicemail', along with a not-so-accurate transcription service.

(btw, I'm using Damage ROM and notice no call forwarding delays)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
Ah, hah! Blacklisting is a great idea! Thanks for the tip! Any idea why my Google Voice might not be playing my custom greeting? I've recorded it and set it to play both online and over the phone, but I am still getting the default greeting.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jguy:
I don't get it. If you blacklist the text notification how are you getting notified? Tried this. Dont think it works. The only notification you will get is the one the the google voice app will give you while checking every 5 min and your wasting battery checking that often. Id rather just get the text notification and you have the option to call your voicemail number from that text to get your msg.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] fixxxer2008:
isn't there an app on the market that can give you visual voicemail?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jguy:
not if you wanna use GV or if your using a 2.1 rom.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] fesstech:
Did you turn on SMS setting on your GV account? With that on I can set my GV app refresh interval to 60MIN and still get an instant GV notification, while blacklisted .
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] sbulloch:
How to Forward to GV

Guys and Gals if you call *28XXX-XXX-XXXX The X's being your GV number this will forward your calls to GV when not answered do this from the phone you want forwarded and by the way this does work kinda like it better than sprints version the text is kinda neat to or transcribing of the call.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jguy:
Didn't seem to work the first few times. It has worked when I tried again a few times. I loving it if it ends up being dependable. Thanks
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] centran:
I think the gvoice app watches your text messages and will "wake up" when you get one from your gvoice number. Make sure you are not using a task killer and if you are then put gvoice on the ignore list.

This will work nicely unless you do not care about the transcription feature.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jguy:
so if the google voice app gets shut down by android for memory reasons you could end up with no instant notification?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] VinceOB:
Why would I want to download Handcent? its garbage...
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
If you are using Handcent, you already have notifications turned off for the default messaging app. So you do get a text message there, but you never know about it. You also don't clog your Handcent inbox with voicemail texts. This is working great for me so far. Just make sure you properly setup your Google Voice first.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] centran:
so you can blacklist the googlevoice number and won't recieve a notification about the text message but the gvoice app will still see a text came in and notify you.

He is just showing you a way so you don't get 2 notifications if you want to be notified immediately when you receive a voicemail.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] VinceOB:
Oh gotcha. When I had text messaging on before I was always notified instantly when I had a voicemail...hmmm weird. I turned it off cause its annoying.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] RTessi:
i like your idea, and finally want to see if GV is worth anything to me...

anyone want to invite me to try google voice so i can give this a whirl?

richardtessi <at> gmail <dot> com

i think that's the biggest problem with everyone's GV solutions is you assume we have Google voice... but until we finally want to try it for some reason, sign up and then as Google says "We will let you know as soon as we open up the service to more users." I'm not one to sign up for something i don't want to use or try so i cannot have already been waiting and gotten my GV invitation... now there might actually be a reason I'd want to try it but i'm stuck waiting :mad:

quite disappointing, but maybe someone still has an invite!

R