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[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] avogadro22:
I do not understand what is required

Sorry
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] prdic:
Sense = Manila, so disable it and try to send mms with default windows app.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] avogadro22:
Unfortunately, this solution does not work
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] !Aman!:
post your concerns in the ROM thread which you are using.
[HD2 General] r0sc0sco:
Hey guys,

just got my hd2 this is my second one with the same damn problems.

when texting if you go to all messages and select another person to txt it will say there name but the number will be the last person you txt!

this has got me into alot of ****, anyone got a fix for the rom?

Thanks

r0sc0
[HD2 General] Fantastica:
I have a suggestion; take it back. You shouldn't have to put up with that.
[HD2 General] ChrisShUK:
sounds odd. maybe try a new ROM there are some new stock ones on here
[HD2 General] r0sc0sco:
tempted to try one of the roms on here, but theres so many,

they have offered me a new phone i.e a diffrent brand was looking at a black berry but tbh i really like the HTC HD2 shame about the bugs.
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
I'd look into HSPL-ing the phone and first go for the stock 1.66 WWE ROM. See how you get on with that and then look into cooked ROMs if you find things you wish to change/remove with the stock ROM

You'll then see what the phone can do!!
[HD2 General] ChrisShUK:
I agree 100% there is alot of power there ready for you to unlock :D
[HD2 General] ronkra:
That is it. It is being confirmed to people asking about WM7 rom update on the device. This info is given through HTC Iberia email support (Italy, Spain, Portugal) and will probably will be disclosed through other support centers shortly. So fear not, now if only someone could make it triple boot 6.5.3/7/Android. ;)

Oh well...carry on.

EDIT: email confirmation from HTC Iberia Support a part of HTC Europe.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
This has happened before, in Russia - and that time HTC head office rushed to contradict what HTC Russia tech support was saying. So you'll have to forgive me if I wait for an official announcement before cheering....
[HD2 General] ronkra:
You are forgiven ;). I am not talking about a tweet by a russian that decided to jump the gun. This is a confirmed HTC email support that can be tracked through support number. If you are a owner you can contact them through email support and you will probably get the same awnser. This information is now available to all users though a date is not set, it will happen.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i will try and see
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
can you giv us a link for the reply
[HD2 General] ronkra:
That would disclose HTC Global ContactUs System user login info, so no way.

But please contact Support and tell them HTC Europe is giving this info out and you can get your own response.
[HD2 General] dnwizard:
Can you paste the contents of the reply you got from HTC?
[HD2 General] ronkra:
Google translator does a bad job at it, but you will get the picture. And I don't really feel like this is proof of anything, a liar would make up the text and put it here anyways, you folks are really jaded here ain't'ya:D...but just so you people turn those frowns around here it goes, this is the important part of the text HTC support sent me through email:

Prezado Cliente,

Obrigado por entrar em contato com o nosso centro de atenção ao cliente.

Estamos dedicados a fornecer-lhe o melhor serviço de qualidade e atendimento para todas as suas dúvidas e preocupações.

Você recentemente escreveu-nos sobre uma questão.

Quanto a sua Solicitação, gentilmente informamos que estamos trabalhando estreitamente com a Microsoft e planejando em trazer uma Atualização da ROM Windows Mobile 7,mas por enquanto não temos as informações de quando sera lançada.

Translates to "Thanks for contacting us. We are determined to be of service to you bla,bla,bla. As for your question, we inform that we are working along with Microsoft and plan to bring a update ROM for Windows Mobile 7, as of now we do not have a release date", this concerns the HTC HD2. OK? How happy are ya now?
[HD2 General] jamieeeee:
i thought ms just announced there will be no upgrade for our beloved hd2?
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
Translated...

Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting our center customer.

We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and care for all your questions and concerns.

You recently wrote us about an issue.

As for his request, kindly inform that we are working closely with Microsoft and plan to bring a ROM upgrade Windows Mobile 7, but for now we do not have the information when it releases.
[HD2 General] ronkra:
jamieeeee - no they did not. Some people there are just way too tweet happy.

EddyOS - That is what I meant with; Google translation does a poor job at it.
[HD2 General] jrrigney:
In MS's words (or there abouts) they have always stipulated that there are no current plans to update any window 6.x mobile devices to WS7P (including the HD2)

No where in any statement that I have read does it say that it will not happen, it's always that there are currently no plans (that they want to allow in the public domain). Until they do this they I would not definatly rule it out, however I still wouldn't keep your hopes up.
[HD2 General] ronkra:
jrrigney - the belief that it would not happen was based on a tweet by WP7 dev team and some sites picked up on it. That along with the Microsoft rep that made the three buttons remark constructed the case.

Microsoft also said it was up to the makers to give a path to WM7, that was discarded for the most part on most sites.

Now HTC support is able to give the same information I state on the first post. This information is now status quo and released through their support team in Europe. If you own one get in touch with them. If you get a conflicting reply please state so. This is not hope related as of now. As of now you all have to keep the pressure on them and let's not allow that they do an "Adobe" on us.

Not that I really am in any way bothered by 6.5 pm the HD2, this thing rocks and visual studio, basic4ppc and openplug allow me to do whatever I want with it.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i asked in three different locations in europe and wating for answer

i asked now in all europe regions with all languages even i asked in the us support for the tmobile version
[HD2 General] ozkaya:
I sent a message too. I hope this one is really true; it's not the interface of WP7S that I want (looks not as good as Sense to me), but new apps is really really important.
[HD2 General] ronkra:
hoss_n2 - cool. I hope they are speedy.

ozkaya - always good to have options ain't it.
[HD2 General] shutdown:
are we going to have topics about whether HTC/MS will give us WM7 over and over until WM7 comes out?

Even if they say yes, we still have to wait so why can't we just wait. They could say yes today but in 3 months MS could change some code that might make it impossible for WM7 to run and they have to say no again.

It's far too early to be going round in circles with the yes/no debate.

Sorry for sharing
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i got my firstr reply now wating for others

Thank you for your enquiry about Windows Mobile 7.

The HTC HD2 was released to the market with the Windows Mobile 6.5 operating system. HTC is unable to confirm that this or any device will receive a future firmware update which will involve an upgrade to the operating system.

We are excited about future developments and are working closely with many partners and will post further information on our website.

We are unable to comment further on current developments in mobile technology. Please review the latest news announcement below regarding Windows Phone 7 Series
[HD2 General] ozkaya:
I received exactly the same reply letter by letter when I contacted them a week ago. Maybe (and I really hope that) the location you have contacted hasn't updated the info yet. (It was UK for me)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
uk also for me
[HD2 General] Theguru1:
to be honest i dont think it will,

1.Microsoft need to seperate themselves from all phones. Like iphone it is in its own format therefore all games are guaranteed to work with it and the games look really good (well the decent ones anyway) if you look at winodws games most of them don't even compare to iphone because it has to work accross all the varations of the windows phones so developers have to be careful to make sure they will work. across all the different hardware.

2.So in highlight above microsoft i now implementing minimum hardware specs. So that is why all windows 6x phones will not be upgradable and nor any windows 6.x games/apps or below will not work. Microsoft have stated (with the HD2) it will not be upgradable as it doesn't meet the hardware specs (i know they have mentioned the 3 button cr*p) but they have mentioned other key hardware specs it does not meet, what that is i don't know.

I have hd2 but to be honest in my opinion it is not looking good. Microsoft are taking a big risk. but at the same time, its time they moved into the next generation of hardware and create a standard of phone. because lets face gaming/feautures is the main selling point if you want to take on apple, and all current windows phones don't have that, that is why its failing at the moment...
[HD2 General] mallman:
lol I can see your point but we are on a forum.. a forum is purely for conversation. Conversation seems to make us all happy. If we don't have conversation we will be unhappy and really shouldn't be on the forum :)
[HD2 General] ozkaya:
this is what I received from UK support:

"Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center.

You recently wrote us about an issue that you have encountered with your device.

Windows mobile 7 is unknown at this time. I can not give you the exact date when it will release. But I know that there will be a new upgrade will be available soon."

I think we might really get some good news with the US release or even at MIX..
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
may be he meant an new wm6.5 rom coming soon not wp7 ,maybe
[HD2 General] ronkra:
hoss_n2 - I got my reply from HTC Iberia wich is in Italy and supports the Iberic Peninsular customers,the person was dismissive the first time I asked, I went for the jugular the second time around, then after 4 days the good news came. Read on.

ozkaya - I think you were being told about a ROM update that will happen before WM7.

mallman - thanks for the sane atittude about it.

I stand by what the person at HTC told me, there will be a WM7 update.

Is that good news or what. Triple boot option anyone? Can you make it happen?
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
That would be great but i highly doubt anyone will be able to pull it off.

Has anyone even got Android fully functional on the HD2 yet with dual booting?
[HD2 General] Sultan1993:
No, there is no Android on HD2 yet

I am from Kazakhstan, and I asked HTC Kazakhstan and HTC Russia about WP7...

waiting for their response
[HD2 General] ronkra:
Sultan1993 - I know, but there are people working on it. Hope they get it to work. Would be very cool.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
They have not decided yet.

Currently it's more likely a NO, but that means nothing.

Just wait and see what happens. HTC support have no clue, probably they're hearing different things as well from different people within HTC.

Anyway, there's no point to all those threads (this is probably the 20th thread about this...). I suggest we close them all, they're really useless.
[HD2 General] Drakknar:
The most important thing is that HD2 is already running WP7 test versions. Hopefully even if a no go should be given by Microsoft or HTC, someone will be able to leak them and integrate the drivers into the final release (if there are no significant changes in the driver model)
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Yes, it is.
[HD2 General] ronkra:
freyberry - if the responder from HTC was on crack or you just simply did not read the thread then you are correct. I really don't care what you think about it but that is cool of you to drop by and stuff...anyways.

"Anyway, there's no point to all those threads (this is probably the 20th thread about this...). I suggest we close them all, they're really useless. "

Simply don't post if a thread doesn't interest. It is a lot easier. Asking for a thead to be closed and to say there are a lot of threads about the "same sillyness", that is just not productive at all.

Because this is based on official support, if you have a problem understanding that for some reason, that is just a little...how to say this...go find another parade to rain on.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Oh, I didn't say this subject is not of interest.

It's just that we have 20 threads or so about the same subject. At least 10 of them are based on answers from HTC's "official support". Sometimes they say YES, sometimes they say NO. Their answers are useless.

Nobody currently knows what's going to happen. Not even their "official support". Just wait and see.
[HD2 General] ronkra:
See, you just making me question it all...oh no...wait...screw that. (pops bubbly for celebration) :D
[HD2 General] pack21:
Oh Boy:o.....now i´m think sell my HD2, for not loss much money, because if not have a upgrade of WM7, will be impossible to sell my HD2 with the dead WM6.5......who whant to buy it on second hand with WM6.5?

No WM7 Upgrade

= HD2 in our hands, until the end of the times, no possible sell.

With WM7 Upgrade

= HD2 in our hands until, we decide buy a upgrade device, we can sell easily the HD2\WM7 with low devaluation.

For me the question of WM7, is not, just want or like it, is a matter of not throwing garbage 600€ of HD2, without doing a year of life.

I can always make some money on sales of my previous devices, and buy a new device by year...... now for the first time, this will be impossible with HD2\WM6.5, close comes out WM7.
[HD2 General] XDA mark:
First thing that popped in my head:

US HTC HD2 launch is soon. 'Confirmations' from HTC that the HD2 will get 7 Series = more people buying the HD2. Yes I know the HTC Support that 'confirmed' the upgrade is in Europe, but people from the US will hear.

IMO we should not take this to serious. At this moment, I believe the chances are 85% 'No upgrade' and 15% that we do get it. Only MIX10 will bring us true answers.

To be honest, I was just getting excited about buying the HTC Desire ... haha :o
[HD2 General] rp-x1:
I'll have your HD2 if you're going to throw it away. Obviously for free, as you, yourself have just said its worthless.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
this illustrates every thing ,no wp7 for hd2

Hello Hossam,

I understand how important it is to have the latest updates for your device. At this point in time, HTC Technical Support has no information about when Windows Phone 7 will be available, nor what devices it will be available for. Microsoft did just announce some information about Windows Phone 7, and it seems like a complete revamping of the Windows Mobile operating system rather than just another update. While HTC will be making phones that are a part of the Windows Phone 7 series, it is unknown at this time which if any existing devices will get an upgrade to this new OS. For the latest news and updates, please keep an eye on www.htc.com.

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question, log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number.

Sincerely,
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
we also said that world mobile congress will asnwer all our question ,but unfortunly it increases it ,i don't think that there will be answer untill htc hd3 is released ,and i will go now for desire besides my hd2 which is going to have a bad end
[HD2 General] freyberry:
"Illustrates" nothing at all, actually :rolleyes:

Just stop it now. Nobody knows anything. Not even HTC support.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
you are right it seems to be no one knows any thing
[HD2 General] XDA mark:
Again for me: no answer at MIX10 = HTC Desire. I am not going to wait for these fools to make up their minds. I read today on Engadget an article that was all about 'Come on, give us those damn answers already MS!!'.. People are really getting sick of this. Either yes or no, not 'more info @ Mix10'.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Funny part about Engadget, et. al. is they usually do know ahead of time, they are just under tight NDA.

IIRC, Engadget, gdgt, and many other top tech bloggers saw WP7s long ago.
[HD2 General] dameon12:
Why are you guys so impatient about an OS that wont be released too soon?

The HD2 itself is a wonderful device and NO ONE will give you answer about wether WinMob7Series will be published for it or not.

WP7S will be great and as long as it is not officially released the whole discussion is sensless and pointless (in my eyes).

Just relax and enjoy the multitouch device HTC HD2 with SNES emulator and stuff :)
[HD2 General] mallman:
why in the world cant you use it for a year as it is? You sound like you never keep a device long anyway because you always want to sell it and make money. HD2 will be our well over a year by the time WM7 comes out and you can still use it well beyond that.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i think hd2 is a device that doesnot go old very fast
[HD2 General] MDAC3:
This is the response i got yesterday

Welcome back,

Thank you for your query about Windows Mobile 7

HD2 HTC was released with Windows Mobile 6.5. HTC is not able to confirm that this or any other device receives a future firmware update that will upgrade the operating system to windows mobile 7.

We look forward to further development and work closely with many partners and confirmed the information on this issue and will post on our website.

http://www.htc.com/europe/press.aspx?id=124244〈=1033

keep an eye on that link
[HD2 General] dameon12:
Lol making money with a second handed device...sorry but i seem to have a total different understanding of making money. :-)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
he means not losing much mony on reselling
[HD2 General] pack21:
It is useless trying to explain my point of view for some people, I'm not vendor devices, but selling my previous device, which has updated in time, losing some money on the sale, I can buy every year, a new machine without much effort.....(not the case of HD2 not upgrade with WM7, it´s very diferente, to current upgrades in same base 6.5, 6.5.3, 6.6, 6.8....)

See how iPhone owners, can always every year, have their equipment updated, spend a little money each year....It´s what i´m talking.

I never said, that the HD2 is not a great device with WM6.5.

it's useless to explain that....Maybe at the end of the year, will understand what I mean ..... when you see the new WM7 devices, and be looking at the HD2 with WM6.5...unless you like collecting devices in the drawer....i'm not because in my country HD2 it is not cheap.
[HD2 General] Thuggie:
I'm really hoping for an update...The HTC HD2 is a great phone, but it's very difficult to find good games and stuff for it...and with the new windows phone 7 series it's gonna be almost impossible to find good software for it if we don't get the update.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Let me preempt everyone by posting this:

OMGGG WP7S ON THE HD2!! VIDEO!! PROOF!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NpSAIH88_k

False, it's a mod. But you'll figure that out if you watch for more than 10 seconds ;)
[HD2 General] labale25:
Sultan do you know whats the price of HD2 in almaty?
[HD2 General] Tanmay®:
Whoa I dont think its fake. The 3 touch sensitive buttons at the bottom? This seems a new device!
[HD2 General] nemets:
Interesting, but phone in the video has 3 buttons.

HD2 as we know it has 5 buttons
[HD2 General] wardh:
The 3 buttons you see are softkeys! Just like we have "Phone" and "Menu" now on our home screen. The phone in video is HD2, if it's WP7S... only time will tell =)
[HD2 General] adrian_nene16:
u guys are wrong, this is actually the hd2 those three buttons that WM7S suppose to bring in every new device are on the screen of the hd2 like "phone" softkey and "menu" softkey watch the video again and you will notice that those three buttons are on the screen and they aren't on the device like it suppose to and the hd2 still have the 5 buttons i figured out by looking at the bottom of the device at 0:39 seconds of the video and then at the end of the video you can see them a little bit too, so this might be good news

Dear: God

i hope hd2 have WM7S update please

make this possible.
[HD2 General] ozkaya:
looks genuine WP7S to me. other skins/mods had the issue when you go back to home menu, you could see the wm 6.5 taskbar for a second. And also they didn't have "live" tabs. Also the three buttons are definetely softkeys but I can't really see 5 buttons of HD2 in the video. we will hear good things friends, keep asking HTC.
[HD2 General] Sultan1993:
About 800$ or 120 000tg

HTC Russia said that they don't have any information about upgrading HTC HD2 to WM7
[HD2 General] Icefeldt:
HD2 will get WIN7 mobile from the xda developers! :D

cooked roms will come out
[HD2 General] kel16harris:
why wont you just tell us what is used to accomplish this mod:(
[HD2 General] turt:
Yeah, the video link looks legit enough for me... The 3 buttons are softkeys, so there is no more the problem of the HD2 lacking the 3 new windows button!

And the tiles are animated, so either it's a really high level fake, or else it's simply a real WP7S alpha rom running on our HD2's!
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
TBH, I thought it was LeSScro mod since he WAS working on animated tiles, and that's when his thread was closed back on the 7th!

I didn't even notice the soft keys, but good catch!

The thing that still makes me think twice is the actual start menu/app screen - those are all Wm6.5 apps and old icons - bubblebreaker? CoPilot? Same Camera icon as we have now, really? Also, I thought they said Activesync was dead, but there it is.

Also, I don't remember the People window looking so unfinished in the demos I saw? Now it might just be this guy has added a TON of favorites and has stretched the screen way out there, but the impression I got in the demos was that MS always wanted the title to be partially visible in order to give you a spatial reference of where you are in the hub!
[HD2 General] young blade:
Finaly... there is small glimph of light shining...!!!:)
[HD2 General] turt:
Just to show that the 3 buttons are indeed soft keys, I have taken a picture out of the video, you can clearly see the screen limit, and the HTC logo beneath it:
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Do softkeys count? I feel like this is a breakthrough, if this could be our loophole :D
[HD2 General] richo27:
The UI looks bland if you ask me....
[HD2 General] kel16harris:
wish this is real

its beautiful to me, if hd2 doesnt get tan update, id NEED this mod/theme or whatever it is, ....may be the colsest thing we get to wp7s on our hd2s till further notice
[HD2 General] ozkaya:
I looked through Lesscro's Site and watched his latest uploaded videos: no animated tiles, no 3 softkey, not even a mention of them. As someone else suggested either this is a really high level skin(which I don't suppose) or it's genuine.