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[HD2 General] mr_lindy:
there's nothing wrong with being hopefull but being ignorant at the same time is something else.

Adobe cancelled the release for winmo 6.5.x and we are going to have to live with it....well legally speaking.... have faith object xda ,and paitence there will be flash in the future, or buy a Htc Desire if u want flash in april
[HD2 General] lemonspeakers:
Okay. We all know that Flash 10.1 DOES exist for the HD2. We've all seen it from adobe from the videos. Admit it. It's just that it has never been released. Will it ever get released? Well, that's just a question if someone fro the inside is willing to leak it to us. If so, WM will live on! Forget WP7S.
[HD2 General] Frostlance:
The TS said 10.1 on the HD2! cant u read? no hd2 users will never get Flash 10.1
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
My experience so far has been that Internet Explorer has better Flash support than Opera 10, but that may just be for the specific sites I visit.

The Skyfire browser has very good Flash compatibility.
[HD2 General] dameon12:
LOL it is one of the fastest devices out here and you claim it to be slow. :confused:

Flash works in Skyfire on the HD2...:cool:
[HD2 General] Archer:
In fairness, real Flash files are laggy on the HD2 - he's quite right. Anything that you view in SkyFire isn't running on your device. It's rendered on a server and sent to the device so it looks like it's running locally.

Try boomshine on your PC, and then open it in IE on the HD2 (works in IE, but not in Opera, 9.7 or 10). There's a very noticable difference in performance.

http://www.k2xl.com/games/boomshine/

Incidentally, one of THE best games ever made ;)
[HD2 General] adzman808:
just found this topic via web search...

try not to shoot me down for this...

but several cooks say thier hd2 ROMs are android compatible... can we not use one of these ROMs then add the 10.1 flash that works with andoid?

i guess i'm missing something...
[HD2 General] Wilco:
If only things would be so easy.....

Android is linux, WM is windows.

Porting apps from Linux to WM and vice versa is not easy.

If it would be easy, Adobe would probably have released it themselves.

Als WM to WP7 and vice versa will not be an easy port, that is why Adobe abandoned WM

An Android ready rom is optimized for the "take-over" when starting Android.

Some apps/drivers will prevent Android from running (properly), the most legendary: Radio Rom which has to be above a certain patchlevel (i believe 2.8), otherwise Android will not boot.

An Android ready Rom therefore is optimized for 2.8+ radio-roms, does not contain drivers which conflict with Android.

Perhaps 3rd party will develop Falsh 10.1 for WM, but chances are slim, more since Wp& is now on the vierge of release, Micrsoft has finished development and released the finished product to Hardware producers just a few days ago.

Rumours are that by the end of this month the first WP7 devices will come out (like HD3/HD7)

BTW: I am curiuos about WP7, will Android also be able to run besides it? If so, My net phone wil become a WP7, almost for sure
[HD2 General] yamimillenium:
something i hate about this community is that, even if people are good in programing they are unpleasant to new comers in IT... i lost my envy to develope applications for Android (i know Java), only because people here will take my work to post it in a topic and don't say thanks (but will still insult new comers)... OK, Flash won't work on WinMo but don't forget that MS said WinMo 6.5 is not dead and will continue being supported while WinMo 7 will be deployed! So, why did Adobe forget WinMo 6.5, this way the Professional WinMo will soon lose interests...
[HD2 General] Wilco:
[OT]

I do not understand who you think is unpleasant.

If one asks a question, he gets a polite answer!

Repeatedly asking the same questionj will not change the response.

Personally I believe repeating the question is more unpolite.

[/OT]

The fact that Microsoft supports WinMo 6.5 says nothing about Adobe, SBSH, SPB and many other developers.

Having limited development capabilities, comanies have to make their own decisions. So if you want to know why Adobe abandoned (pulled the plug) on development for Flash 10.1, then you should ask the CEO of Adobe, In the end he is responsible for this decision.

Officially WM6.5 lacks crucial API's making development of Flash 10.1 impossible.

(Adobe could program the API's herself, but here are also cost/benefit arguments to consider)

Would be nice is flash would be "Java-based" though :)
[HD2 General] ASCIIker:
FYI Part 1: the HD2 hardware is by no means slow...it is FAST! all experiences of slowness are usually due to ROM issues and/or user errors, or simply the fact that WM development takes a lower priority (or NO priority!) for major developers.

FYI Part 2: i am currently using android on my HD2...i can't say this enough, but i am BLOWN AWAY. the dudes here at xda have outdone themselves and even though my experience is already very stable and pleasurable with android on the HD2, it WILL only get BETTER. i am using this build:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=769026

...and flash works 100% under android...i know cuz i tried some porn sites and it all worked WITHIN the browser :D
[HD2 General] Wilco:
:D

Now you make me think about dirty man and raincoats (flash combined with porn)

;)
[HD2 General] adzman808:
Not sure if you're directing this at the response to my question... or just in general...

but i find this site to be very friendly & helpful & the response to my query here was fine...

I think sometimes ppl get jumped on for not searching (indeed very frustrating) but some times the search is more hassle than its worth...

eg i have a threaded sms problem after restoring from micrososft myphone...

how many hits did i get searching for 'threaded sms problem' ;)

sometimes it is easier to just ask & despite ppl's moans (about noobs not searching) techies do love to explain things :) :) :) ;)

Thanks
[HD2 General] ap3604:
Thank you for taking the time to link this android build! :)

Most people would just say "I use Android" without linking anything for people reading but I appreciate the time you took doing this for the rest of us :D
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
the hero is a nice phone but damn is it a slow device, im about ready to sell this thing. im trying to hold out until the nexus comes to sprint but anymore im ready to just give it up. anybody else tired of the slowness of the phone?

i mean did htc cripple this phone or something? even running a custom rom it's slow for me.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
Mine's pretty darn quick on DC...
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
well i hope 2.1 fixes the lag issues but as ive said, im about fed up. as much as i love android im really getting turned off here.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
what rom are you running?
[Hero CDMA General] mrinehart93:
I don't have any lag... I'm running Pancake (1.5) without Sense. It uses Gbhil's custom kernel with pretty nice settings, so I always have about 60MB free (no lag). I also put the Darkstar theme on it, so it looks nice even without Sense.
[Hero CDMA General] rt1oo:
fixxxer2008, you've started so many threads about how you're tired of this phone or how you want something new and you just seem like you complain a lot and you want fulfillment from others and agreement that they feel the same way. You're a senior member and all, and you've been here for a heck of a lot longer than I have. But that doesn't mean that you can whine about your phone this much. If you want to sell it, then by all means sell it. But this is about as good as it gets right now for phones. There's a little bit of lag, yeah. There are weird hardware instances where the phone bricks itself. Hell we can't figure out how to change the color of the time in the toolbar.

But the HTC Heroc/ Droid Eris won the about.com award for best smartphone 2010. It's the best phone available on sprint right now, and it heralded in the debut of Sense UI for android.

If you don't like it, then stop complaining and do something about it. like sell it. or make your own ROM for it. or smash it against a wall, post it on youtube and let us all see. Words are just that; Words. They don't really do anything in real life

I'm not trying to call you out of offend anyone here, I love this community. But posts stating 'i hate my phone cuz it's not perfect' don't help progress move forward at all.
[Hero CDMA General] thezero4:
Damage control couldn't be any faster. The title says it's lighting fast and from what I've seen t literally is that. I haven't seen ASOP run any faster on my phone. So if DC is any indication then the 2.1 release will be pretty quick, or the ROMS built off it at least will be as fast.
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
For what it's worth my wife also has a hero, and she's on stock 1.5. It's slow as hell. I reflashed mine to update my PRL to fresh 1.1 and IT was slow as hell (though much faster than stock). Then I went back to DC 1.0 where things are instantaneous.

So yes, if you're still running 1.5 then it's likely going to be slow. Also try and remember that it's one of the first Android phones. It's going to take time to work the bugs out of the OS and the 2.1 ROMs do a damned good job of speeding up the operations.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
Yeah I saw if you want FAST, got to DamageControl. It's just ridiculous
[Hero CDMA General] gomorrah:
I completely agree with everything that was just stated, and applaud rt100 for taking the time to do so.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
it's cool..to each their own..ive just put it up for sale im afraid. :(

when the nexus comes to sprint ill hop on it!
[Hero CDMA General] azyouthinkeyeiz:
QOUTED FOR F_____ TRUTH!!!!!!

I've been saying this to him for weeks, but when I say anything opposed to his point of view, I get called a troll...

Sell your phone and stop the pity party...
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
How much??? and where?
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
unlike you guys i have no desire to make or learn to build roms and themes, i just install. look i payed a ton of $$ for this phone and i want to get my moneys worth. you guys know the hero has been known for the lag and slowness and im not the only one complaining about it...just do a google search. god forbid i give my opinion. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] spiritcrusher33:
Hum im running fresh 2.0b and couldnt be happier..fast runs great..I agree regardless if your not happy.. by all means get something else.. but since u have had just bout every sprint phone in the current roster..then maybe a dumbphone whileu wait for the N1 may be in order..lol but im sure by the time the N1 comes out u will find something else wrong with it.. so not really sure what to tell u.. find a phone and live with it.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
I hear the iPhone is pretty fast :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] bobsbobbers:
DamageControl fixed all the issues I had with speed. You really should try it.
[Hero CDMA General] Deleted member 884763:
Thank you!!

I saw a thread where you listed the phones you have owned in the past year. It's more then obvious you can not be pleased by any means or you have out of control ADD (me too) But I channel it into making my phone better, rather then starting pity party posts.

Then there is this classic uh oh... im getting bored with the hero

Not to mention all the replies that you posted threatening to return your Hero because of dust under the screen.

Please please just sell your Hero. Then move on to the next forum with a new laundry list of complaints about <insert phone name here>
[Hero CDMA General] 702DROID:
so how much you want for it
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
so since this thread really doesn't have a point...

Did you know that chocolate PEZ doesn't really taste like chocolate?
[Hero CDMA General] :
That sentence explains a lot about you. A human without the desire to learn. Pretty freaking scary. IN MY OPINION

Every time someone calls you out, you pull the opinion card. I wonder how much longer you can get away with that.
[Hero CDMA General] Sporkman:
i have to say i jump between DC 2.1 and DL 2.1 and im happy with both only thing im erked about is the facebook syncing you whole contact list but i can live with that
[Hero CDMA General] spiritcrusher33:
Lol didnt even know they made chocolate pez.
[Hero CDMA General] azyouthinkeyeiz:
I didn't either...

I am heading to the store right now just to buy some and try them out...

So if they don't taste like chocolate, they don't taste like sh_t do they? lol
[Hero CDMA General] davidboyd:
If your not willing to root and rom your phone, then why are you on this site? Stock android 1.5 is a bit laggy at times, but this forum offers so many options to make the phone faster. I am currently running damage control with the radio update and my phone is unbelievably fast.

If all you want to do is whine, I suggest you go to Sprints forum. If you want solutions, they are all over this forum. As my grandfather always said, schit or get off the pot.
[Hero CDMA General] Tipharet:
Not only no desire to learn but constantly complains. This is not the only forum he does this on.
[Hero CDMA General] Sporkman:
did you read ? his phone is rooted lol he is running the pancake rom
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
people need to learn how to read the FIRST POST in threads lol
[Hero CDMA General] davidboyd:
I must have been sampling some chocolate pez and overlooked the fact that he is running pancake. Why would anyone still be on a1.x rom anyway? My point still stands...faster solutions available. Try one or learn to accept being sucky.
[Hero CDMA General] :
Yeah I bet he's doing a CTRL-V of his first post somewhere as I type this.

Apple Jacks don't taste like apples but are damn good.

Kellogg on the other hand was a freak
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
It was a kinda fruity-chocolate-bug like taste lol
[Hero CDMA General] mindctrl:
My sole contribution to this thread will be this:

I had a love/hate relationship with the Hero until I installed a 2.1 rom on my phone. I had tried numerous 1.x roms, and although they were faster than the stock rom, they still weren't fast enough.

I've run Darchstar's v3 rom and I'm currently using DamageControl with HelixLauncher. Both are a LOT faster than any 1.x rom I ran in the past. I can say for now that I'm loving the Hero again. The lag is gone. The phone now runs like it should have when it hit the market.

Others I know have had the same experience. To the OP (since I didn't read every post in this thread), I don't know which custom rom(s) you're running, but if you haven't tried one of the 2.1 roms, I think you'll be pleased with how different the phone is.
[Hero CDMA General] rlaxton:
yeah it's pretty darn fast
[Hero CDMA General] navalynt:
OMFG ... I don't think I can ever eat Kellogg cereals again :eek:

Although, perhaps I will look for some of these chocolate pez everyone keeps talking about. Does anyone know if they are as addictive as the other flavors? I've never had an opened package of pez last more than a few hours, sometimes it doesn't it even make it into the dispensor ;)
[Hero CDMA General] atoz350:
FYI the OP was like this with the WM guys too.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
I'm sick of how slow the forum has been the last 2 days.

I have ReloadEvery on... no new posts.

I guess I just get excited inside when a thread turns dark blue lol
[Hero CDMA General] azyouthinkeyeiz:
Um... I clicked on the link and read the first couple sentences....

And then immediately stopped.

Wow.. You weren't kidding...

No more Frosted Flakes for me... UGH... *dirty thoughts*... What if the flakes started out as victims of some of that mutilation...???
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
the vogue was the best for the older phone it was. look don't pin this **** on me, lots of others have issues to with the hero. not my fault these manufactures cripple the phones. the two palms i owned were defective and my diamond broke on me, how is that my fault? if i pay $500 for a phone i want it all.

i hope you guys are right that 2.1 makes a difference in speed. if the nexus was out id buy that but it's not!
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
This is all you need

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5831848&postcount=1
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
id install if i didn't want to spend all day reading 500 pages to find fixes...that's why it's 100%. ;)

if my hero doesn't sell before 2.1 then ill try it out and hopefully it fixes the slowness.
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
If you pay $500 for a phone without researching it, you don't have any room to complain.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
most current phones are $500 without and upgrade applied.
[Hero CDMA General] mrcharlesiv:
Dude. Just take the plunge. That's what nandroid is for, remember?! There really isn't anything that needs fixed. It's not going to hurt you any to try it so why is this a big deal? I'm not trying to be a **** but you can't complain about your phone being slow when you haven't tried the new ROMS.
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
And????? If you had done your research you would have known the issues with this phone. If you still bought it, then you have no room to complain. If you didn't do the research, its your own fault and you shouldn't complain...
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
they're all in the first post.

everything worked for me after the mms fix... nothing else big left, (trackaball light)
[Hero CDMA General] :
So far in this thread, you mentioned the N1 twice or more. Have you complained about how snail slow the Hero 'supposedly' is before Nexus for Sprint was announced? Are you sure your

main

reason for this thread wasn't to brag how you're going to get the N1 when it comes out?

Shenanigans I tell you.

I'm willing to bet YOU already have touch-screen problems plaguing the Nexus One and it isn't even out yet.

You spend all day posting. Why not read?

LMAO EWW oh man....
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Whats that I hear?

...

...

...

Its a WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE.
[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
have you sold it yet? is so, why you still here *****ing about it?

so long sucker..........

I'm a proud HTC Hero owner ....
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
Nor is it ours, but we come here to collectively better our devices. not bltch about how much they suck! Seriously if you dont like the phone sell it and move on. dont have the money to be getting a new phone every month, then maybe you should do some reading/learning/reviewing in between all the compla... I mean posting. :rolleyes:

Agreed!

LMFAO!

Seriously, how about instead of clogging the forum with all the complaining you just sit down for an hour, and read up and try out one of the 2.1 roms?

Oh thats right you "just install" though... you dont fix, you dont learn.... you probably dont belong here, to be quite honest... :eek:
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
C'mon guys, let's all calm down now....
[Hero CDMA General] H4k3r4r34l:
Lol whaaaambulance... im still using bik's 1.5 rom and it faster than turds in a cannon ill wait until 2.1 gets released so i can try all the roms that the masterminds at xda can come up with. i can tell you this much if youre not willing to flash and youre not willing to learn than why did you even buy the hero? No disrespect meant but me thinks you just jumped on the bandwagon
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
some of you are real assholes on here.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
i have no desire to build roms or learn to theme. unlike some of you i have a real life, family and job...thanks!
[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
did you sell it yet? if so, why you still in here?
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Why? OP should have sold his phone as soon as he got bored with it. Was he expecting it to turn into a game console/ pr0n machine/ casino/ sports event/ other form of entertainment? No, he should just get over it, get a RAZR and use a computer for internet needs.
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
GUYS!

let's just leave this thread alone.

No point in putting people down even more.
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Oh snap! Your PS3/360 and PSP/DSwhatever do NOT count as family.

On a real note, there are TONS of people here with a real life, a family and jobs, and STILL develop ROMs.
[Hero CDMA General] obelisk79:
that's perfectly fine, have you tried the working 2.1 roms? have you actually sold your phone? Surprise! I have a wife a 1yr old son and a busy job in the Military, yet I manage to get some time in to tinker with a rom of my own design/theme.

You are also entitled to your own opinion, you've shared it. It seems there are quite a few vocal people who frequent here that do not share your sentiments. Rather than continue to troll like a juvenile and add fuel to the flames just leave this sub-forum. None of us have the magic fairy dust to make your phone do what you want it to.
[Hero CDMA General] chfields:
Well, what do expect?? You come on here complaining about a phone you bought without finding out about it? If your not happy, take it back and get what you want, but don't come on here whining...........I have a wife, kid, house, cars, job and a life too...but I don't spend $10 without researching what I'm buying, much less $500. Sometimes get stuff I'm not happy with, but, I learn my lesson and move on, I don't go online and whine to others and expect sympathy. When I make dumb mistakes, I tend to not tell anyone, just be quite and learn from the mistake.
[Hero CDMA General] H4k3r4r34l:
youre right to each their own... fixxxxer good luck on finding a phone that will best serve your needs.
[Hero CDMA General] mrcharlesiv:
I agree. This is pointless. Let's all show some maturity.

Fixxxer, sorry you don't like your phone anymore. Hope you find one that you can enjoy. I mean, it is, after all, just a phone; they're all phones.

...really cool phones. :cool:
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
The thing is... you guys are taking the time to give him the attention he wanted. so it's partly everyones fault for this dumb thread lol
[Hero CDMA General] obelisk79:
I kind of get a kick out of this thread to be honest. My morning entertainment.
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
+1 honestly.
[Hero CDMA General] smoother2010:
Kinda harsh of some of you, ive been lurking for awhile and i partly agree that the hero is a slower android phone. But he could try a few different roms.
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Some magic pixie dust for you too.
[Hero CDMA General] obelisk79:
Slower than what? I'm interested as to what is the litmus for your comparison.
[Hero CDMA General] smoother2010:
I mean ive noticed it can be slow at times, look it isn't my thread. Im researching putting a 2.1 rom on my hero as we speak. Just trying to make sure all of my themes will work?
[Hero CDMA General] H4k3r4r34l:
lol / 10 chars
[Hero CDMA General] mhguy15:
Can't wait for a SnapDragon phone

I love the phone too but its freakin' slow. The custom roms made it palatable. I'm having Nexus One envy now. I just bought my girlfriend the Nexus One for AT&T 2 days ago. That thing flies compared to my hero. I even have it overclocked with SetCPU to 640mhz (compared to the stock 548mhz) and its a little choppy at times.

I want a Nexus one for the speed, but I'm going to want a Supersonic for the Screen Size. What a dilemma. Definitely gonna put my Hero on Ebay once Sprint launches those phones.
[Hero CDMA General] obelisk79:
Well many of the popular themes have been ported to work with the various roms. If you're not afraid to get your hands a little dirty, it's usually extremely simple to port them yourself, I could provide some tips if you'd like. Also search the theme thread sticky, I don't think they are all listed in the first page. Also, I wasn't attacking you, just made it seem like you were comparing the hero to something and I was interested in what that was. Yes, at times the phone stalls for a fraction of a second, I can agree with that. But it's hardly a game-breaker by comparison to just about any phone I've dabbled with, to include the superiorly specced moto droid. I haven't had the pleasure of messing with a nexus one yet, but it apparently has quirks of it's own as well.