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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eichenberg:
Need more info like who is your carrier...the problem you are describing sounds like you flashed a gsm rom (t-mobile and at&t) to a cdma phone (sprint and verizon). If that is the case you need to flash back to stock rom then grab the energy rom from here for the CDMA phone

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=86489

hopefully you did not brick your phone...good luck
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] joseph881:
Seems like you've done everything right. Just note that first time flashes usually take a while to load on the first boot before customization procedures.

If the phone doesn't budge, try a hard reset. To Hard reset your phone, Turn it completely off (remove and reinsert battery if needed), then hold down the Send and End and the power button. It should load the SPL and then ask you if you want to Hard Reset, press the Volume Up key to accept.

If the Hard Reset doesn't work, download a stock ROM, and flash that via the bootloader. If the stock ROM works, try to flash the Energy ROM again.

To enter the bootloader, Hold down the Volume Down key while turning on your phone. or hold it down and while pressing the reset button.

Hopefully you can get this sorted.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] joseph881:
That could be the case, but he sucessfully flashed a HardSPL, so he could just enter the bootloader and flash his stock ROM to continue operation of the phone.

When he responds about who his carrier is and which TP2 he has, we'll go from there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stisinai:
I am on US Cellular and I did use the GSM ROM for some stupid reason. I can load the bootloader screen and am downloading the correct ROM now. I assume I then follow the load from microSD card procedures?

Thanks guys

You are lifesavers if I can get past this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] joseph881:
Yes, with HardSPL you can flash the nbh file from the microSD card, but I recommend you flash using your PC via USB. It would save you the hassle of trying to find and extract the NBH.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stisinai:
Well it wouldn't update via the PC because it wouldn't connect. I did find and rename the nbh file and put it on another sd card. It is updating now with the stock ROM. Then its back to the drawing board if this works.

Thank - I'll update and give other noob idiots my story when all is good. (still having fingers crossed)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] joseph881:
Hmm... HardSPL usually enters USB mode when the bootloader is run and a USB cord is connected, but I'm glad you got your phone flashing either way. Good luck.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stisinai:
My problem was definitely the wrong ROM version.

For anyone else as dumb as me, this is what my problem was...

Everything seemed to flash ok originally (the program said it was successful). Then it restarted and the phone would not go past the "Touch Pro2) screen. There was nothing else on the screen.

and here is what I did to fix it...

Got another SD card and formated to fat32.

Extracted the proper original ROM.exe file using winrar.

Placed the .ngh file in the root of the card with the name rhodimg.nbh

Insert the sd card in the phone and restart into the bootloader screen

When it asked if I wanted to load the ROM, I of course did what it said

When it finished I removed the sd card and pressed the reset button

It took a while but everything loaded ok.

Then I started over with the ROM I wanted (this time using the correct CDMA version). Again everything seemed to go ok. This time when it rebooted, on the "touch pro2" boot screen there was additional text at the bottom indicating the cooked ROM I installed.

Thank you to everyone who helped me understand what I did wrong and I hope noone else is as dumb as me, but if you are there is hope.

Thanks

Steve
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] joseph881:
No biggie, you're very welcome. We all are noobs at some point of our existance and we all make mistakes. I'm just glad you were able to learn from yours and recover, in addition to pointing out to others what went wrong. Have fun with your new ROM.

~Joseph
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Badwolve1:
Glad you got your TP2 back, it's not a nice paperweight
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] akamustang:
Actually as paperweight's go, it's a damn sexy one ;)

But I would prefer a working phone any day
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stisinai:
I do have to say that I am drooling at the possibilities of this phone. Just have to take things a little slower.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Solace87:
I did the same thing basically. I tried a gsm rom on my us cellular phone. didnt know that they conflict at that point.

what rom do i need to flash to get my phone back?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stisinai:
Here is a good place to start...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98

I am very happy with the Energy Rom's, but that is a whole different discussion.

Or you can go back to the stock ROM which you can get at ppcgeeks also.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Guitar100:
O Bless you Joesph881.I had same problem.Flashed stock Rom in bootloader.My life is back to normal.Again,thanks. ;):D:):cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zstanczak:
hit the red reset button on the right. mine did that also, and that is what I did, and it came back up without a problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] worldindustry:
STOCK ROM

FYI, the stock ROM, original ship ROM can be found here at the htc mobile phone product support page. It comes as an *.exe and you double click once in the bootloader screen and it works

I had a problem where I flashed with a new rom, and it went to the white screen. I had to flash with the original ROM and it came back to life! yay. :)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] slight22:
I'm currently running an HTC touch pro 2 and i still have my HTC touch pro. I turned my TP1 on the other day for the first time in many months and the phone picked up a text message, not only did it pick it up, it picked it up at the same time my TP2 did. Unfortunately it hasn't happened since.

What i'd like to know, is there a way i can emulate the IMIE number on the tp2, so that i can have both my TP2 and my TP1 working at the same time.

I want to be able to use my TP1 as a full data device while i make my calls on my TP2 or vice versa.

If you can't post the answer here for what ever reason feel free to private message me.

*edit it will recieve every txt message that is sent to my number but it won't send and it won't take incoming calls.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] THE-COPS:
Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] slight22:
1) unfortunately telus.

2) The GPS on my phones has been completely deactivated except for when I want to turn it on. I refuse to allow someone to turn it on remotely, also in Canada that's akin to wireless phone tapping so the cops can't do it. And even if they could legally i'd still reprogram my phone so they can't.

3) That's my point. If they didn't fully remove it and my old phone can still get the txt messages that means they can re-add the old MEIE numbers back to the system and both should work. OR if i could put an emulator onto my phone or even hard code the MEIE number change on my old phone to the same as my new one...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] papeluv:
Remember back in the day when cellphones were still a new thing, the brick and bag phones and so on, well someone figured out how to clone phones and the practice caught on like wildfire and since then has been literally outlawed. AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE ONE OR MORE PHONES TO THE SAME IMEI, MSID, DEC OR HEX SERIAL TO GAIN USE OF MULTIPLE PHONES ON THE SAME LINE AT THE SAME TIME. Not being mean or an ass to you, but I would research this a little bit and tread lightly on the subject. Stuff like this is not tolerated very well on xda.

Plus, now it would be almost impossible to do this with any carrier as the data the phone sends out is not just what you want it to. Whenever it connects to the network is sends and receives configuration data such as manufacturer and model among other things and will throw red flags if it doesnt match up to what the expected result of the data sent and received to the network and carrier has on file.

Again, tread lightly on this path.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] slight22:
"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.

"not tolerated very well on xda." Why? the whole point of these forums is to learn and teach people how to modify their phones. If they didn't want people sharing this information they should never have started this website to begin with.

As to my actual question and as to one stated answer

"They probably didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system"

If it's still partially in the system that means it could be wholly in the system and means it should be able to be done. If they say it can't but i'm still getting txts on both phones that means the carriers are lying and are just making excuses to get more money. If thats all it is i'll do my best to get every penny out of them for every penny they're stealing from me.

Ok rant done, how do I clone my IMIE number? (no i won't tread lightly)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] defaultdotxbe:
its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it

and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] slight22:
Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.

as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] defaultdotxbe:
lawmakers disagree

forum admins disagree
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] slight22:
"lawmakers disagree"

I can't trace out anywhere where they say cloning your phones IMIE is illegal in Canada, and i also just got of the phone with HTC and they said they don't know of any laws saying it is.

As to the forum admins, they are allowed to disagree, but i'll be they want to know just as much as I do.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] indagroove:
Another thread (closed) on this site which discusses ESN cloning: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=380172

Just search on google, and you will find what you need. There are programs like cdma workshop out there.
[HD2 General] KobusG:
i know this is more a question about yahoo finance, but i would like to know if some has figured out how to find non-usa/canada stocks on yahoo finance.

Otherwise i'd have to get some other program to handle it (anyone know of a good one?) but I'd still prefer to have it integrated with htc sense...

please help
[Hero CDMA Android Development] MagnusRagnarok:
Ive looked through the site and found nothing about this, so i was thinking last time i made a nandroid backup,Could we instead of flashing roms just restore each others nandroids thru recovery and list all the features of the backup and put them up in a post sort of like the rom wiki? Then EVERYONE could definately find a setup they liked....just a thought. I dont have someone else's phone to test it on. Or are the number names on the nandroid backup files system specific? Any answers or info would be greatly appreciated. I think this would be cool if it works because we'd have so many choices of setups if ppl put theirs up,and it would eliminate bootloop,time for flashing roms and any extra addons. Then you can continue adding to or removing from the restored nandroid backup if you wish, or you could just leave it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] thedudejdog:
this is how the moto droid guys flash their roms. seems like ours would work...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dmc971989:
I too have been thinking about this...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
Only Problem is that is stores /data

And that is your settings and passwords for any apps you have used or market sign in etc

Also of you had any paid apps you would also not have to have those installed or the other person would get them and that would be considered warez and just flat out suck for the Devs that make them

You would have to nandroid right when you flash the update before you setup any passwords.

Or you could remove the /data part but then more than likely it will FC on multiple apps
[Hero CDMA Android Development] MagnusRagnarok:
Just A Thought.....

I think if we put up a repository for ppl do upload their fav. setups with the following specific information:

1)Rom name and version

2)Kernel if changed

3)Apps and System apps might be alot but nice:)

that we could all benefit and see some of the things other ppl are doing with THEIR roms. It would give the ppl like me who get flash crazy rather quickly many more options. We could just label them starting with NAN RECOVERY#1, with all the details and then go from there....
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 98classic:
you could skip the sign in the beginning and customize and upload, minus paid apps and stuff, that way your contacts and google log in wouldnt be stored. but yea it would work

edit: guess it wont work. haha
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dmc971989:
i was just thinking the dev could make a nandroid before they sync anything... restore any warez

everytime i try to rename a nandroid backup i cant get the phone to restore it...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] danimal_01:
This won't work, I've tried it. Ask me how? Well two of my Hero's died on me but thankfully I was still in the 30 day warranty period both times. Anyways everytime I've tried to restore my old settings from my previous phone but it won't take because it's a different serial number. I managed to get around that but once you flash the rom and boot up the phone EVERYTHING force closes on you. Even if you DO NOT have passwords/logins etc... There is your answer go try for yourself if you would like but don't say I didn't tell you.

~Danny
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tatonka_hero:
NO spaces. Make sure there's no spaces in your backup name, use dashes or underscores instead
[Hero CDMA Android Development] MagnusRagnarok:
Hmmm.....

Thanks for the feedback,i did think this through way before posting. I would have become aware of those issues if i had someone else's device to test this theory.maybe if you want to upload you get your setup and set up your apps and then nandroid before you add your paid apps to your own setup. The benefit would still be the same, there are more good free apps that i use than paid anyway. So we would not be using warez and taking money from devs,and then just log into your own google account. That SHOULD work....
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dmc971989:
you couldnt rename it to the correct seriel number?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] MagnusRagnarok:
If I had another hero i wouldve tested BEFORE posting....

Date them with dashes and it will work, i do it every time to keep track. I still need another hero to test the serial number thing since you actually just named your backups the wrong way. So those results wont work. Because if you had named them the right way your results wouldve been different. Also we wouldnt change the exact backup name, we would title and then link to the file....thanks for reporting your experience:)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mercado79:
Danny, I too had to swap out my Hero and for the hell of it restored a Nandroid backup from my original phone. However, unlike your experience, I had no problems with force closes. The only thing that happened was that Gmail wouldn't send properly. I fixed that by wiping the Gmail cache. I don't think that issue is specific to restoring a Nandroid from a phone with a different serial number though as I've read others having the same problem on occasion. Also, assuming we'd be sharing backups that don't contain personal info on them, this Gmail issue would be unlikely to happen.

In any case, I like this idea. Perhaps we should be checking out how the Droid folks are doing this (as someone else pointed out). They might've worked out the kinks in this Nandroid sharing plan.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] MagnusRagnarok:
Any One Care To Help Me Test?

If anyone would care to help me test my idea,so to maybe get something going on the site for everyones benefit who like my idea and want to flash these backups, I will test someone elses if anyone is willing to send me one or a link to one;please leave the numbers unchanged for accuracy,or i can send someone one of mine becuase i have many from 1.5 and 2.1 with several different rom and theme setups that i would be willing to share to test out my idea. Anyone interested please just pm me...Thanks
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dmc971989:
ill try it out (ill be reflashing in a bit anyways)... so if you want to send me a blank nandroid (no contacts,Gmail,etc) then ill give it a shot and report back
[Hero CDMA Android Development] thedudejdog:
I'll test it. just pm me the link. but I already know it works ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] zippy-man:
That would work and would kind of be cool if it did

But the only problem is that I don't think many people would actually do it.

Oh I forgot too if you want to download apps you gotta sign into the market first
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mercado79:
Or you can pull the apps you use on your current ROM and push them back via ADB on the clean ROM. Kind of a hassle though.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] phonetec:
ive done it, it works, just save the nandroid backup folder ie. BCDMRS-date-3463, inside the folder ie. /sdcard/nandroid/HT02yourphone/ with the rest of your backups.

then recovery, backup and restore, nand restore and select the backup u saved.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] MagnusRagnarok:
Thanks

You are awesome. Thanks for the info.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] MagnusRagnarok:
Who do i have to talk to to get this going?

Any senior members care to help me do something with this idea?:) I will do all the work. I know this would be successful. Look at all the views and replies to any new rom that comes out, its crazy.I can get it started with about 9 setups of my own,many dif. roms also 1.5 and some 2.1. Currently running a damageless plus my modfications. After that im going to nandroid. I would like to share that one since it is the most recent one im running and its also fully functional. I found someone willing to help me test, so hopefully tomorrow ill have the results and then ill know for sure, just to see for myself.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] obelisk79:
While this sounds like a decent idea in theory, it just seems to me like this could get out of hand/huge. Imagine the number of backups floating around with different setups. A better idea might be to find out how to easily share scenes? No offense...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] thedudejdog:
ok, check this out

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/android-roms/18871-droid-rom-links.html

almost every one of these droid roms are distributed as a signed .zip file OR a nandroid backup to be restored.

this way i assume the DEV just does a wipe then a backup and when you flash it there ya go.

it is possible.

how are the droid guys smarter than us? they are on Verizon for pete's sake. :p
[HD2 General] MirasHD2:
please remove topic. thank you
[HD2 General] GamerMYJ:
whats white about it?
[HD2 General] toxtrepla:
Yeah... That is black. Did you even look at the rest of the unboxing pictures?
[HD2 General] lude219:
wtf is going on here guys??
[HD2 General] lemonspeakers:
Anyone noticed that the earphone hole doesn't bulge out like the NON-USA version?
[HD2 General] MalekoUK:
Indeed....whats up with that??
[HD2 General] lemonspeakers:
It must be something with the positioning of internal hardware.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
this phone is us version look at its picture it is written under it tmob news
[HD2 General] H3ALY:
Ignore i miss read what was being said.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
pointless thread please any moderator close it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] EDENO1:
I loved the non-slip battery cover that my Kaiser had, now I have the Tilt 2. anybody know of or seen a battery cover for the Tilt 2 that is the same as OEM just non-skid/non-slip material instead? Was hoping to avoid getting a cover/case for it...been checking ebay w/no luck. Thanks for any suggestions!

edeno
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] totriz:
the zagg invisible shield is very 'rubbery' to the touch, and my phone doesn't slip easily when it's on a flat surface.

it may be easier to buy that than to find a replacement battery cover and it's a much better option than using a (maybe ugly) case

the only drawback of the invisible shield is that it will start to look ugly after a couple of months, turn a little yellow and start to peel on the corners. mine is 4 months old and it looks like I may have to replace it in the next month or two.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] SMF_12:
i was looking at changing my one for one from a sprint as it looks like black rubber or something. maybe one to look at :cool:

as for the hard rubber cases.. there a few quid off ebay, but the front one scratched up my phone :(:mad:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 85Mario85:
im trying to set up a adb so i can use my g1 as a webcam:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4975656&postcount=17

however when i plug in my g1 it says everything was installed except the adb.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anartic:
Do you have ADB setup on your computer in the first place? If not, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=532719.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 85Mario85:
I installed the adb with the sdk as it was mentioned and my computer still doesnt show my phone as an adb device
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
Did you install the drivers for adb?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 85Mario85:
i cant find out how! :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bodyman:
a little search and VOILA!!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=446274&highlight=64bit+usb

this works if you are running windoze 7 x64
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 85Mario85:
i dont get how im supposed to put windows 7 on test mode =S
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 85Mario85:
im getting this aswel "When running the command prompt adb install I receive an error dialog stating:

"This application has failed to start because AdbWinApi.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem.""

im getting so frustrrated with thiss :confused:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 85Mario85:
bump! i dont get this =[
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r3s-rt:
Search for pdanet and install it. That's how I set up adb for Windows. (Btw - get rid of Windows. Finally did my switch to ubuntu today - ahahahahahahaha I'm sad I ever even used Windows.)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
Yea, but adb is kind of a ***** about permissions and such on ubuntu. But each has its quarks.

@85mario85 - You have to cd to the adb.exe in the tools folder ie. c:\sdk\tools\ then run adb. Or add it to the paths part, but I can't remember at the moment.