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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilrah:
"Possible but too heavy". 98 already takes 15-20sec to open an explorer window...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] miko3d:
guys, make sure you have installed the cirrus graphic drivers properly, it makes big difference,win95 works really fast in 16 bits with those drivers,win98 needs more memory, make sure you have given plenty of it in the qemu settings, Qemu has some issues at accesing and writing data, it seem to stall,

there are great apps and games to try, as I already wrote before Starcraft Broodwars runs on it,with the full units, missions packs etc... and the speed is surprisingly good ingame, the biggest issue is the clunky interface for the keyboard and the mouse, really needs to be developed for the HD2 multitouch.

i have also tried civilization 2 and theme hospital with good speed.

but there are plenty more that comes to my mind like c&c red alert, total anihilation,settler2 etc... basically any game of around mid 90s, maybe even newer....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arxx:
How do you install games with this emulator? I don't seem to get access to the memory card from My computer?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] miko3d:
Its easy, just mount the hd image using winimage and then drag and drop folders, or you can also make virtual isos and mount them in qemu
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arxx:
Cool, now I can google those things you just said ;) thanks!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kruithofm:
Whahahaha..... :D

I had the blue screen on it.... Pitty I did not have a camera within my reach....

Cool.... :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xiniyo:
magic mouse

can it use the bluetooth of the phone ??

so i can use my magic mouse and logitech keyboard:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmmalas:
can someone upload a video of booting \ usage. it will got alot of publicity for sure :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 96edwy:
sorry for being an idiot but i opend the qemu launcher and i selected stor card/qemu/emul/win95 n nuthing happens wen i hit launch any tips?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 96edwy:
nvm sorry i extracted it with winrar and didnt do extract files i did folder so i had 2 win95 folders
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 96edwy:
im sure someoneon here could modify the qemu slightly lik make the keybourd so tht it pops up wen u clik sumthin and obviously bigger than it is now and make it fullscreen n stuff
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
:) It starts fine with qemu.exe. For qemu_launcher.exe it has to be in the previous mentioned directory. If I would have followed your instructions it would have worked right away. Sorry for that. :o
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
swiss420 you made me understand how to use launcher. Never had the idea to create folders in Emul dir before :rolleyes:

What do you mean "it works none the less for me also"? What do you want to do?

I tried to make a clean setup with drivers, important updates like msi-installer and iE6, some touch friendly settings and input help so from so from this point you can install the directx version you need and any software possible on Win98. I dont know how this could be more flexible.

Maybe there could be other versions with optimised touch interface using additional car-pc software or versions for

-gaming

-office

-design

-slim speed

or whatever.

But first I tried to make it clean, complete and useable.

Hm, nice whishlist but we must be carefull, this is not linux, it is always based on a stolen Windows. May be there could be a way to make this legal by removing serial and license so you have to use your own serial and license with this. Dont want to ask Microsoft.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
Don’t worry about "it works none the less for me also" that’s just a Swiss guy trying to be creative with the English language. I just meant to say that it works for me. There are a couple things we can try. The first one would be that we can make a nice tutorial with step by step procedure for others to follow. Secondly we should find out what the true restrictions on a Windows 98 License is. Because it’s no longer supported it might be legal to use without a license. I read this somewhere @ Microsoft but I would have to double check on that first. If that would be the case I would think that we can go nuts with QEMU Win98 Images. Just the Software used in the image has to be legal also.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
double post
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Oh no it is unsupported but all microsoft windows versions and even old dos versions are under license and not free. Would be nice if not so.

But I hope they let us play and most of us have already payed for most windows versions or can easy get a used Win98 license.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
They dont allow you to modify, sell, or share it maybe but just Privat Usage I am not 100% sure. I am probaly wrong but I read something a long time ago but it might have been more a question then a true statement. Have not found anything about it anymore. Lets forget about that for now.

Edit: A nice collection of Batch Files would be nice to faster start stuff and reach certain things. Basically a little Win98 Control Panel.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nmambre:
I think we are safe, cause we have our own legal Win98 license. If you have your own disk, Microsoft won't mind that you are using an image created by someone else disk.

aSiD, can u pm me the download link? thx
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
aSiD1712 I am experiencing problems with QEMU Manager 7.0 When ever I restart it messes up part of the Image. Have you had that happeing and what settings do you use in Qemu Manager CPU/Network wise? Maybe a Screenshot of the settings would be helpfull. Its working but would be helpfull if I could restart better. Did you get the network working or is there still a problem? In my Image I took out all unneeded extras and the interface is a little more touch friendly. Large Icons etc. Will hopefully be done tonight if anyone is interessted in testing if it works for you.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Qemu network on windows mobile is not working and I can not do this. I hope Trukky will get it working or it will need someone else.

The Win98 image was never online yet.

But my similar german Win98 image was online on qemu under XP and under Ubuntu. I will try to get it online on windos desktop qemu and post settings later.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
dont understand the restart problem, it restarts on desktop without problems for me.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
Figured it out it was a second partition that was having read issues. Got that sorted out. Getting the Keyboard cleaned up would be nice. Asked amiral-levassor if he has any input regarding this. Otherwise it runs very nice. A list of usable software would be great. Name and Version. Maybe a prepackage of some addons like backgrounds etc as a CD Image or hdb.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zarathustrax:
Hey asid, could you pm a link to the 98 image. Its great to see that someone is developing qemu images for the hd2.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
win98

It will be hard to create a compatible software list since it is windows 98 and so much software will run on this.

For gaming it has very limited speed and no directx hardware so only old or simple games will run smooth.

But there is so much other software running. This could be a music studio pc or a 3D and design workstation or used for developing software, science, databases, whatever you need. Tell us what you want to do...

This is just the point, everyone can easy install and use every Windows98 or XP or Linux compatible softare on those qemu images ;-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
Hi friends, sorry for my "lazy days"... I was in some problems but I have some very bad news...

Internet can't work on QEMU. I was try everything, but not sucsses.

If someone can help us try this for first steps.

http://linux.die.net/man/1/qemu-kvm
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
Hi TruckyBN, we probably went through about the same steps. I found this should provide a NIC but it has not worked as described yet.

-net nic,vlan=1 -net user,vlan=1

-net nic,model=rtl8139 -net user

I wonder if a a Work around via Bluetooth or parallel/serial would be possible. Bluetooth PAN Network for example.

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In Order to expand a RAW Image (Example 400MB image needs to be increased to 1000GB for more space)

qemu-img.exe create -f raw temp.img 600M (Create a empty image with the size you want to increase by) then use the copy command to combine the old one with the temp one to create the new one. copy /b old.img+temp.img new.img Once you have the new Image with the new size you have to use a boot CD to resize the containg partitions to use the new space we have added. (gpart or partition magic - Hiren BootCD for example)

Additional found links:

http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~qemu-win/HowToNetwork-en.html (QEMU Networking) <--- Check this out maybe you can make sense of it. Seems it does not accept the -net commmand.

http://wiki.qemu.org/download/qemu-doc.html (QEMU Emulator User Documentation.)

http://superuser.com/questions/24838/is-it-possible-to-resize-a-qemu-disk-image (Resize QEMU Images)

Note: Also looking for working Skins like Talisman Desktop http://www.lighttek.com/talisman.htm (CAR PC Theme would allow for big Touch friendly Icons while Talisman works under QEMU Manager it seems to have a little problem with the same image on the device but it would not required as much resources as Stardock for example.)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
hey trukky you are right:

"Internet can't work on QEMU"

this qemu versions for windows mobile are not prepared to have internet and it is not possible to get online with any settings in qemu or windows host.

Before something like -net ... could work, this qemu version has to be changed and recompiled or there is a new plugin needed...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drjawad:
aSID thanks for win 98 its very fast. i have one question can office 2003 run on this image? and can ur qemu work in xp image as urs qemu is fast than trucky
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
I did not tested Office 2003 and I dont know if it is compatible with Win98, but just install on image on qemu desktop and test, copy on phone and test agin. If it not running it should run on Trukkys qemu. "My" qemu is faster and has better UI but has a Bug, so XP and some programs are not running. For those software use Trukkys version.

We need a good programmer for network!

Trukky could you try to do your xp fix on my "my" qemu so we could use better UI on xp?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
I will try this weekend. Is "Your" QEMU in win98 download package?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Yes it is included.

Trukky please test my Win98, it is very easy to install and mouse input is working fine, but if I boot same image on your qemu with same settings, mouse is impossible to move without dragging, only if I disable click on toolbar, mouse is moveable without dragging. May be this is because of mouse plugin? Also Toolbar Change, Menu and Multitouch-Zoom is working very nice on this version.

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=457082&d=1291591348

and the original thread:

http://forum.pdaprime.ru/index.php?showtopic=45356&st=240

There are also Plugin Sample Sources.

Please dont missunderstand if I say we need a "good" programmer for internet, I dont know anything about this but I think this is very special.

May be we should try other ways too. On HD2Ubuntu the only Emulation running out of the box was Dosbox, but I booted Win95 on it and it has USB Host Input (mouse and keyboard). Internet should be no Problem on Dosbox. There are modded Dosbox versions on Ubuntu for better netork and better emulated Grafik card.

Qemu could be easy installed from HD2Ubuntu softare center but seems not to start complete. But may be it is very easy to fix since there are already arm CPUs running on Android and WinMo and Rest of emulation should be same as on desktop Ubuntu? Wine is not possible native on HD2Ubuntu but may be with additional CPU Emulation.

I hope u are all using or tried HD2Ubuntu?

My Windows98 image runs on Android qemu and Android bochs, so there are already 3 emulations to run it on my phone!!!

Someone already get Bochs running on HD2 on Windows Mobile?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
I was tried bochs and win95. works ok but only in landscape. I will test your 98 and write about that
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
you run bochs on Windows Mobile? Which Phone do u use? I tried on HD2 but did not get it running, do you have a working folder or setup?

Do you have the XP HDD image geometry for bochs so we can try to boot your XP on bochs?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
I will upload that soon. bochs with 95 in one package. I haven't xp geometry now.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m4sta2k:
Would have kicked ass

Dobar poso dobar poso !

Samo nastavi
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
"NAND" Windows 98

Installed a small fast Win98 on growing image and booted from internal storage.

Will test and set up a little more and upload soon.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drjawad:
aSID how did u do that.Booting from nand? hows the performance? plz upload soon
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
I just moved hdd image to internal storage and updated path in emul.cmdline. You could do this easy with any qemu image fits in your internal storage.

My image is 130 mb and I dont think you all could easy clean so much internal space. I removed much from Rom. But I am testing very much and will upload a very small and fast optimized but compatible version soon.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
on my "old" english Win98 are some Updates installed in german, so some system menus are in german. But most is in english and this seems not to cause errors so just use it. Sorry for that.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
"NAND" realy gives a little speed, the stipped Windows 98 image takes 1:06 to boot from SD and 0:55 to boot from internal Storage. Same image on same machine. Scandisk MicroSDHC 16GB class 4. May be on a class 10 card it boots faster than internal? Who has a class 10 Card to compare speed?

Windows 98 stripped image is 82 mb now, I know there are smaller versions but I try to keep it supporting most software. The system is responding very fast comparing to my "old" Win98 image. The explorer shell is from Win95 and Internet Explorer is removed but most games and software are possible.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] white-energy:
is there anyway to get that win 98 image?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m4sta2k:
well i just follwed this guide and it works fine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvywfeDiTio

its 7 months ago it was uploaded and i dont know why xda says thats this is the first time booting win 95 on htc hd :S
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] white-energy:
We should try Windows XP!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
m4sta2k: this thread is older than 7 months and maybe your youtube link is also based on this. It is no more just about running Win95.

white-energy: XP is already running fine on HD2 thanks Trukky. Send you PM.

I have stripped a Win98 SE image to only 22Mb. This is booting from internal storage in 35 Seconds and responding without any delay faster than your pc.

You can use games and some software with this but it is only optimized for speed.

I also installed a complete new Image of Win98 SE. It is one of the most advanced and complete but small and fast Windows9x ever, I would say it is "finished". Will upload image and a video soon. It is responding faster than my old image and supporting more software. It is online on Desktop and I will include settings.

Bochs is running on this Windows 98 and I booted complete Win98 in bochs on Win98 in qemu on windows Mobile HD2. Booting 2. level emulati9n was "only" an half hour and it responding on inputs only after seconds. Realy sweet unuseable.

All new images are online on qemu desktop pc and I ill include settings.

I want to upload all versions soon:

- Win98SE Perfect Setup Latest

- Win98SE fast but compatible 80 MB image (nand)

- Win98SE Turbo only , 22 MB image NAND!

- Additional image "gaming"

- Additional image "3D and Grafik Workstation"

Now as the Images are finished I want to make easy uploads and howtos and I hope I can upload everything tomorrow.

After that I will upload my Version of Trukkys XP image.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drjawad:
wow aSID its great.waiting for your uploiads
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Still updating, just a screenshot:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jopo:
keep continue ;) i can't wait to try your images
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zagitta:
Anyone that can PM me a link to a image file? i got Qemu running on my PC and created a image file and installed win2k3 on it (had nothing else laying around) however when i try running WM qemu with this image it just says "Could not open disk image"

Also could anyone post those 2 aditional files the youtube video talks about? right now i'm reading the log file of WM qemu to determin what commands to use and then launching it without the launcher included wich is hassle...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hasawei:
waiting for the new image, thank you guys.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pablo71:
I've been wanting this for 7 months now, and I am so excited.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Hi,

Its about 2 years ago i played around with bochs and qemu on my Touch HD.

I was sucsessfull with starting Win95 and Win98se, xp doesnt work.

But it was very slow, and the interface... terrible.

Since i doesnt get managed to etablish an network connection (file transfer / internet) it was useless to work with an windows with "locked in syndrom".

Nice to hear that someone picked up this projekt, and even get winxp to run!

Is there any noticeable difference in speed, WM compared to Android?

I mean qemu is in original an linux emu, so its close to say android is an native surrounding?

Jet i was trying my old win95b image on my HD2 and i must say: wow - it feels maybe 10 times faster than on hd :-)

Please send me the links to your projekt, so i can play around (running xp sounds nice) ;-)

Keep up the great work@

Thanks an greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottydoguk:
win98

Thanks for the link aSiD1712

was suprisingly easy to install even for a noop like me. So strange to see this on a phone. everything as said seems to working fine thanks again
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Thanks alot aSiD1712,

you are using another (newer version) of qemu then i, lets test if net is possible :-)

Time to play ;-)

in attachment my old qemu parameters (not all of them are working on wm), maybe someone is interested...

and some newer bios files...

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drjawad:
aSID when u done with uploading new images send me lonks.waiting for ur images
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
sorry I was setting up so much. This is Win98SE realy "complete" now also including flash9, divx, quicktime, .net framework 2, better sound, all updates i found and all online updates from microsoft, Open Office, virtual joystick required for some games, new qemu toolbar and much more...

I am realy packing now and locking for space to upload. This is bigger than last one.

This also includes Win98SE NAND, bootable from Win98SE in Host as 2. level emulation. Extract c98nand.img from d98crazy and copy to internal storage.

So sorry for waiting but I dont want to do this again.

If it is up I will send some links, please resend or repost here or where you want and reupload. But it ill take some hours to upload, you will have it before christmas.

@ Tokl: I know there arre diffrent versions and latest has bugs on arm.

XP runs on Trukkys qemu version and this is also included in my upload to boot alternate required for some software on Win98SE image. This is only for 3 Programs and everything else will run better on default included qemu version from start menu. I will test your bios and settings.

But please follow complete the steps for my images for first boot and dont just copy into your qemu folder because there are diffrent versions ith diffrent plugins and the mouse and menu and keyboard ill only work fine if you follow the steps.

Upload will have 1,17 gb and I don´t want to remove anything more noe just to get a few mb. So I will have to split and upload will take some hours.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skysailer:
That's a nice gift, hope everything goes well, um...I'd love to try some linux image if that's possible, like DSL, puppy linux.. really greatful if there is some kind of mod guide or something...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xspojlerx:
Hi aSiD, could you send me pm a link to the 98 and XP image? Thanks.;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Files are uploading, 2 hours.

There is no network or internet on winmo qemu as I know.

Network Hardware is emulated but not connected to "host".

I tested qemu on Android on HD2, I like the winmo version much more, it is faster, more stable and has better input. Android qemu has no network too. But may be there is already a new Android qemu?

Try Dosbox on HD2Ubuntu for Win9x with internet on HD2 or get qemu running on HD2Ubuntu. May be an linux freak in this windos thread?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
this is so easy, download a linux cd image or set up a hdd, copy image files to emul dir folder and set up drives in emul_cmdline.txt

Or emulate 10mb linux via Bochs on my Win98SE image, it is included. Also you can boot Win98SE NAND image inside Win98SE Emulation via Bochs.

Extract the small nand image direct to your phone root to enable Win98SE NAND boot via winmo qemu.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
oh no I forgot the most important!

Please always use this screensaver:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Tried this but i was not sucsesfull because i did not found qenu for arm ubuntu (embedded).

The normal version for x86 is not working and returns wrong cpu architekture...

Greetz Tokl

pls send me the new links when available.

where did i found qemu dor android?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crampedson:
Thanks for your efforts aSiD. I can't wait for the upload to finish. Feels like Christmas come early :)