yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
What kinda of multi tasking do you need? According to what I've read and seen. If you have an app open and then open another. The first one will be suspended but if you hit the back button on the phone it will take you right back to where you left off on the previous app. That pretty much like multitasking. It will still remember what you were doing on the app when you change. And then items that require to be active in the background will beable to with approval. I don't need my calculator active in the background when I switch apps. That's just one more thing I need to close all the time with my task manager at the moment.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
I don't get it, what make you think WP7 = newer iPhone OS?

If let say the Start Screen can have background image customization, will you still say "Right, that is newer iPhone OS because in the future iPhone OS will have that feature as well".

Then what? iPhone will have Xbox integration as well?

And the "hubs" concept, is that also the next iPhone OS feature?

If that's what you believe, then everything will be the newer iPhone OS.

Of course there will be similarities, or similar restrictions, but saying they are exactly the same is just wrong.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] seed_al:
True, that's an advantage. I do think, when you compare the two locked down platforms, WP7 is really much better.

But still, it's just as locked down as iPhone OS. I don't want that. I want something that's open like Android (or WM6.5, but that's doomed).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pilgrim011:
The same as on Windows XP or Windows 7 or WinMo 6X. Simply - multitasking.:rolleyes:

I'm not saying they are the same, but they are very similar. I hate iPhone OS (because of restrictions), and now I hate WP7 (for the same reasons).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Danni3:
watch apple will sue microsoft for a sliding to unlock mechanism XD

anyway its too early to tell, but i do wish there would be more apps developed for windows mobile 6.5 =\ i mean theres not much to do once you get done with all the nitty gritty stuff
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pilgrim011:
From what planet are you, man?:p There are tens of thousands of apps for WinMo, just they are not on one place (MarketPlace), they're all over the internet. WinMo is the OS with more apps than any other OS. Don't tell me that iPhone has more apps - they are counting books (26000 currently on AppStore) as applications, useless stuff like iBoobs, ifart i**** etc.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Fdo35:
Well, those who stay with 6.5.3 will pretty much have complete control of it, Microsoft won't really be doing much with it. So, if you really wanted to, you could probably edit the source code, if you knew how. Just a thought.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hixer:
i'll voting for Wp7s , because it's new , i don't how . I want to test in it :d
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Danni3:
lol i just havent found any that seem to stand out; i used most of the main ones though =\ (s2 applications, spb mobileshell and etc)

do you have any recommendations for apps then lol?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pilgrim011:
Well, apps for WinMo are, just like on big Windows, all over the net. If you count only this forum, there are thousands and thousands useful apps.

Here are some links:

for commercial apps - http://www.handango.com/content/Top-Windows-Mobile-Apps (several thousands)

for freeware - http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ (at least 10000 apps)

http://www.1800pocketpc.com/.

Of course, I have some other links, but this is enough for a start.

If the question was what are my favourite apps, here are some of them: Advanced Config, SKTools, Total Commander, HTorch, Lumos, FdcSoft TaskMgr, Resco Explorer, Wolf's Translator, Resco Photo Manager, 7-Zip, JZSmartMort, iGo, Garmin, NDrive, CradleAlarm, nueUSBkeyboard, SPBBackup, Pocket RAR, TCPMP, Core Player, Shazam, ReRemind, SBSH PhoneWeaver, SPB Phone Suite etc.:)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] hoss_n2:
wp7 is better specially after the announcement of thet most good developers will go for wp7 and stop developing for wm6.5
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] heov:
windows phone 7 is for noob consumers.

i'm heavy on email and messaging. I want to pull out my phone, get to my email, repsond to emails, send out texts, check something online, go back to email. Do you know how long it takes to send out a 1) a text 2) an email 3) check something online 4) send another email in that order on the iphone? it takes forever. it iwll probably take forever on WP7 too.

When i turn on my phone... i want to see emails and upcoming appoints. I dn't want to see the weather. I don't want to see anything else.

Now you may be wondeirng, why don't I just use a Blackberry? Well I like WinMo better than blackberry due to it's familiarity and hacking ability and UI.

But if MS ditches the corporate users, blackberry will be my only option.

And is MS gonna allow for other buttons? What if you have a front/slide out kb? I don't know what i'd do w/o dedicated "internet", "email/text," and "calendar" buttons.

screw WP7... i don't want a zune and stupid games and facebook.

it seems like MS is exiting the coprorate sector, and Blackberry will secure it's stronghold in that sector.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pilgrim011:
+1. WP7 is OS for minors. Although I don't like BlackBerry because it's locked like iPhone, so I choose Android - true multitasking is vital for me.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] havox22:
well do you know that if you hit the back button on wp7 then it goes to the last app/thing u were doing..it sounds like this will be a great phone for u :p

screw wp7 cuz it has zune, games & facebook?? lol im not sure if u know this but all "smart" phones now days have music, games & facebook even what you are using now..u mite not know that because your not forced to use it but u wont be on wp7 either & as far as the other stuff u wrote "wait for mix" lol
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Dr.Gonz0:
the thought of wp7 on my current phone... no dice

Only way i'd move to wp7 is if it's backward compatible with my .cab stash hehe
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] un1ucky:
i just looked up winmo 6.5.3. to be honest i like how it looks more than winmo 7 and im prob like how 6.5.3 works.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] bigcj55:
Do you really have a choice? I mean, you can't upgrade any current Windows Mobile phone to WM7..
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Fdo35:
The 6.X branch of Windows Mobile is supposed to be supported even after 7 Series's launch, basically as long as people want it.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] johnlujl123:
After reading all posts, I still go for winmo 6.5.3! WP7 looks totally different when compared to older versions and I don't like that. Take a look at Symbian^3 and ^4, they somehow still look a bit like S60 5th edition. Microsoft should improve its OS and not invent (or redesign) a totally different one.

I, for one, don't think WP7 will be as successful as Android OS or the iPhone OS itself! :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] heov:
i don't hate it cause it HAS those features. my winmo 6.5 phone can do all that ****... and an iphone can almost do everything my phone can.

what i'm saying is it's a consumer oriented phone... it puts zune and facebook ABOVE productivity.

all phones have a back button... that doesn't mean it can multitask. In my specific example, that may be beneficial.

But what if I'm surfing the web on my phone... and i get a text msg and don't want to deal with it right now... that is, i want to finish what i'm doing... so i dismiss the ontification and continue to do what i was doing. How do i respond to the text? i probably have to go home, then to the text app, then to message.

Now this is just 1 described example.

What if I get an email while writing the text?

I'm not saying this is impossible to do- it is veyr possible... it can be done on the iphone too. But it's not CATERED to business users. It's catered to people who want to text and play games and music on their phone.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] havox22:
im not sure where u get that it puts zune & facebook above productivity

what else are they gonna show when they first show it off they wanted to show something that will make people talk not put them to sleep showing how it can email & text wonderfully

i never said it multitasks cuz i like everybody else here doesnt know its limits nor full potential

the back button on wp7 works like lets say i open word then powerpoint then calender then the browser then text from the text screen if i hit back it will bring me back to the browser & if i hit back again it will take me to calender then powerpoint & so on and so on, u dont have to hit start again & again, im not sure if it will cycle thru them over & over or stop when u reach your first app tho

mite not be multitasking but its good enough for me, prolly not for most tho but it seems like u can be productive like that

so even if they dont let htc or whoever add text/email buttons then u still wont need to go back to start even tho im not sure why they would limit them in the first place, but if they do then stick to what works best for you
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ravichandrabr:
WM7

i like wm7 but i have 64mb ram device, is there any way to put wm7 on my device? thanks in advance
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] seed_al:
no

*filling up 10 characters*
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
Wow. Why would you even ask that question? We don't even know if the HD2 is geting WP7 and it's the closest to the specs we have seen.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] seed_al:
Well, that's the clearest answer so far. Sucks, but this guy seems to know what he's talking about.

Has anyone recieved similar answers?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
I think it's funny they put this in their messages. You never sign or agree to anything that validates this notice when posting a question.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Daveyg99:
Win7 v 6.5.x

thought I would try my luck to guage some idea how HTC are pitching with potential upgrades. to be fair though it's not the end of the world I mean microsoft are notoruiosly bad at releases of any O/S look at vista.. you wont see anything great in terms of apps from this new platform for at least 12-18 months
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
Look at Windows 7 it had a great release and I think it sold more then any other OS in it's first week. I think they are starting to learn that ads and UI focusing on people matter. I believe there will be a big ad push for WP7 before the holidays.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Daveyg99:
Interesting point, they did learn from the vista debacle looking at the pc Win7 release. I still think it will be a while before new and hopefully decent applications start to trickle out both inhouse and third party
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
Yeah of course with a new platform it will be awhile before a good app base is established. Hopefully alot of developers will jump on board early so we can have a decent marketplace at launch.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derliebewolf:
I voted for WP7s but it may turn out to be not so "dev"-friendly...right now we don't know but in that case I wourld preffer WM653 for the time beeing...
[Nexus One General] DaveKid:
Am I correct that if the screen "sleeps" then the music player turns off even when plugged into headphone jacks. I really hope I just have some setting not enabled or something. Cause on a long road trip, it would be ridiculous to have to have the screen stay on the entire time for music to come out. Android 1.5 music player did not work that way. the screen could sleep all it wanted to, the music would continue.......oh, and I enabled the setting that says "keep screen on when plugged in" and it doesn't seem to work. my screen still turned off thus turning off my music player. also happened after a notification (SMS) was finished processing. screen went off.
[Nexus One General] d0mo:
no, music is not supposed to turn off when the screen sleeps.

makes sure you do not have automatic task killer or some other similar application that terminates the music.
[Nexus One General] DaveKid:
it's in the ignore list of my task killer app.
[Touch HD General] mlalahoi:
Hey all,

strangest problem. All of a sudden my HD has started a very strange behaviour. it will randomly make a little "ping" sound and then power off without me doing anything. totally independent of what program is running or installed, and I have flashed several ROMs all with the same problem.... I'm thinking it's the battery? Anyone ever had this problem before? Happens at all sates of charge as well....

TIA!!!
[Touch HD General] stuntdouble:
Sounds like a possible battery problem. You sure it's not the actual low battery noise? Check the contacts of the battery and make sure they are clean. Perhaps it's time for a new one.

What have you changed about the device lately? Flashed a new rom? Changed radio? Installed a new program?
[Touch HD General] mlalahoi:
Yep, cleaned the battery terminals with some alcohol, let it dry and so far haven;t had the problem again (been about 24 hours now).
[Android Apps and Games] smartbuzzinc:
Hi All,

I have the T-mobile MyTouch phone, with Android software. Can anyone recommend an application that will let me stream a wide variety of Internet talk radio stations?

When I am on the Internet, I like to listen to stations with the "Listen Live" option, which often plays with Windows Media player. Since the player doesn't work when I'm using the phone's Internet browser, I would like to have a way to listen to stations on my phone.
[Android Apps and Games] iVisionX01:
Try DroidLive.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tareqhs:
Hi,

I'm trying to modify the internal native Skia libraries and I'm facing some difficulties. Below is related to Donut r2 (branch donut-release2).

I cloned the relevant branch of Skia and the projects it depends on from the git repository. Initially I tried cloning and modifying the build.git project, but I couldn't figure out how to force it into building specific projects instead of the whole platform.

Then I built manually with the NDK, but this didn't make it because the Skia project requires pthread library (strange, thought thread functions are in libcutils in Android...). When commenting out the -ldpthread in the make, the built library is about 5 times normal size, strangely, and doesn't work (NOTE that I haven't applied any modifications yet).

Can you please help me? I need to make a valid stock-identical build of the Skia shared libraries libsgl.so and libskiagl.so in order to apply modifications to the source..

Thank you
[Omnia II General] Marco789:
Hi All,

I have a Samsung Omnia Qwerty. When I use my physical keyboard, the

keyboard backlight goes out after 2 or 3 seconds. This is very annoying!

I would like to change this to 10 seconds or more.

I have searched in the entire registry, I have used several tools, I have

spend a lot of time on searching on the internet and I have send an email

to Samsungs Helpdesk but unfortunaly no result...

I saw on several forums that other people have the same problem but

that they also don't know how to change this.

Is there anyone who can tell me please how to change the keyboard

backlight timeout?
[Omnia II General] VOODOOS!L:
I know there is an option for keyboard backlight timeout in Advance Configuration tool. But I didn't test yet if this works on the Samsung.
[Omnia II General] Marco789:
Thanks for your reply!

I have already tried the Advance Configuration tool. This tool creates a new

key in the registry (QKeyLedTimeout).

I have changed the settings in this key but it doesn't do anything with the

keyboard backlight. Any other ideas (I hope)..?
[Omnia II General] VOODOOS!L:
pocketmax has a freeware tool called keylight. I don't know if it will work on samsung (it's created for treo) but you could try.

http://www.pocketmax.net/redial.html
[Omnia II General] Marco789:
Thanks again for your time and effort.

I have installed the application and it appears in my start menu but when I

select this application then unfortunaly nothing happens.

Any other suggestions or things that I can try?
[Omnia II General] VOODOOS!L:
:(

you could check the modaco forums, they have a more resources on samsung specific tweaks. I know a lot of special codes exist to open samsung dev and debug panels. Maybe some options exist in there to change the timeout config.
[Omnia II General] Marco789:
I had already checked the Modaco forum but they also don't know how to solve this problem.

I have tried to copy the link to the Modaco forum for this problem but

since I'm a Junior Member, they won't let me to post a link.

It's a great phone that has everything that I want but the keyboard

backlight is the only thing about this phone that is bothering me.

It would be really nice if we can solve this problem but how...
[Omnia II General] panpan1:
Hello,

Did somebody find a solution ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Digsy:
Does anyone have a download link for the generic version of CoPilot Live 7? I'm not after a license code or extra maps, just the .cab file for the generic version to try on my HD2.

I already have a bought-and-paid-for Pan European maps version of CoPilot Live 7, Touch Diamond Edition. I have tried installing this on my HD2 but the Icons and drop down boxes in the menus appear blank so unless you are strong with The Force you cannot use it. Oddly the actual navigation part seems to work fine if you can actually program a destination.

I was wondering if this was a screen resolution issue, as the Touch Diamond version was tweaked to look good on its screen, which at the time had a higher res than most phones.

I'm guessing that generic CoPilot 7 won't work at all on the HD2 for the same reasons but I want to try it to save me spending £60 on the special HD2 version. I'm pretty annoyed at ALK right now because they won't supply me with a download link for version 7 and HD2 users specifically do not qualify for the cheap upgrade price when mocing from version 7 to 8.

Hopefully someone out there can help.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] slash_1:
Hello.

I think this is the new hd2 version. I hope this is ok. It should be a normal trial version for 15 days.

click here

greeez
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pablo11:
Or here is a good one from the HD2 rom :

http://htcpedia.com/dutty_gps_copilot_33a9992979734b276/soft/leo-apps.html

you may have to register first but its a great site with many good roms and advice:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Digsy:
Thanks for ther replies but any "HD2 version" will be CoPilot 8, not 7. I'll try the rapidshare download tonight anyway but I think it will be the wrong version.

:Edit: OK, I've not tried installing it yet but judging by the setup file the rapidshare one has a "2577" folder, so this matches with CoPilot 7. I'll try installing it tonight. Cheers!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Digsy:
Both were version 8.

Has anyone got a download link for VERSION 7?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Digsy:
I finally managed to convince ALK to give me a download link for the Touch HD version of CoPilot 7 and despite ALK not officially saying it will work on the HD2, as far as I can tell its working fine.
[HD2 General] dino_Donis:
TomTom runs fine on my HD2 apart from pausing when announcing directions i.e.

"After......................2 hundred yards turn left".

Has anyone else found this or know a fix for it?

I have installed the later version 7.917 and it still does it! The previous version 7.915 also did it although it worked fine on my old Omnia II...
[HD2 General] dino_Donis:
anyone??????????????
[HD2 General] coolape:
I think its a known problem, I had this problem on my old Diamond 2... I went to Garmin instead..
[HD2 General] nerald:
I get the same thing happening with IGO8 even when nothing else is running.
[HD2 General] dino_Donis:
That's a shame as it is a bit annoying! I did notice that some mortscripts I wrote have pauses in between wav files I linked to, on every other WM device I ran them on the files are continuosly played like they are one sound file...
[HTC Excalibur] germano89:
salve a tutti ho appena comprato l'htc s620 sl il S.O. è in inglese vorrei installere uno in italiano quale mi consigliate????

Hello everyone I just bought the HTC S620 the OS sl is in English I would like to install one in Italian which I recommend???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] lbyankov:
IDK why, but since I have installed the new ROM released by T-Mobile, my phone is nothing but trouble. My text messages are really slow. Once I click the "All Messages" tab and I click on a conversation it needs 10 seconds to load it. Then if I try to go back, the phone freezes and the only way to unfreeze it is to soft reset it.

Then the Wi-Fi sharing doesnt work. I installed it but there is no trace of it in the whole phone.

The phone it self is slow. After a reset needs few mins (up to 10) to load that little quick menu that is located on the top right corner of the screen. No matter what I want to do it needs a sh*t load of time to do it.

It annoys the f*ck out of me, does someone else have the same problems with this ROM?

I apologize for the swears but I am really annoyed by this THING and I want to go back to the stock 6.1 or a cooked ROM.

BTW when I tried to download the HARDSPL from the forum, my anti-virus told me that there is a trojan in it.

P.S. I just saw that it doesnt show me the notification for new SMS, also I have the annoying (1) on the SMS icon in the HTC Sence. I know I can fix it with the fix that is given in the forum, im just saying... Is that a bug that should still be there? I am disappointed with WM, the 6.5 has more problems than the 6.1...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
I've noticed when upgrading to vzw 6.5 my phone was slow too. I stuck with it for a couple days and gave up all hope. I'm now on MightyRom and occasionally load up SPB mobile shell. Mobile shell requires more frequent restarts (every other day). The mightyrom is mad stable and hasn't given me problems (you can't use mightyrom it is cdma only, I suggest pheonix or valkryie for you).

HardSPL is not a trojan if you download it from this site or ppc geeks, no need to worry on that end (i'm running business class vipre and malwarebytes professional).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] lbyankov:
I was running McAfee.

Can you give me a link for the HardSPL? Ill be looking for a cooked rom, but that will be when I am home. Anyway, Ill have another post in this topic soon, since I just did a hard reset and I want to see if it gives me the same problems, but so far is still slow and I don't give it much hope...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
you should install nopushinternet and ssk dynamic resource proxy cabs, those will help out immensely with some of that device lag. ( http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1295157&postcount=2 )

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=232414&d=1254156455

Personally I don't like McAfee or any of those bundled suites that dell/hp/gateway/etc include. Kaspersky, Vipre, ESET, BitDefender are all better IMO.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] lbyankov:
Downloaded it. It showed improovement right away just like you said.

Also downloaded HardSPL, McAfee shows no trojans. I will look for the ROMs you recomended and ill get back to the topic soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rorytmeadows:
I'm not getting the same problems with the 6.5 update. It might be the other programs that you're running in addition to the update. I don't get the Quick Menu delay. Wifi sharing has been working.