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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] akashastrega:
I have to disagree with your view. I don't find iPhones to be nearly as customizable as WinMo, I have tried Droid, and maybe in a year or 2 it will be a bangin' OS, but for stability, I will stick with my faithful workhorse...

Yes it isn't as pretty or flashy, yes it is a touch slower, but my WinMo devices have been like Timex...takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'. I'll take that ANY DAY over flash. My last was the Wizard...I had it almost 4 years. If I buy a new battery for it, it will still work...but it doesn't have GPS which I really wanted. Now I have the TP2. I am NOT gentle with my phones. I use them for everything...my device keeps me on schedule, makes my calls, keeps my kids happy while waiting somewhere...I never power it off, and only charge it once every 2-3 days...

I have friends with iPhones and with Droid devices, and they have had to replace them under warranty, they carry chargers with them because the battery life sucks...they look good, I'll give them that...for me that isn't enough.

Each person has their own taste, maybe yours isn't a taste for WinMo, but I cannot agree that it SUCKS. I agree that there are things that I'd like to see updated or sped up a bit, but for the abuse it can take, WinMo is good.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rossle12:
Couldn't agree more with akashastrega, I had a Iphone 3GS for a month or so.

I got tired of it, nothing to do.

Same crap got pretty boring, and yes, the battery life on those suck.

These WM phones are extraordinary and much more customizable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] EricaJ1073:
I just ditched a BlackBerry Pearl 8120 for my Touch Pro 2 yesterday. In the 10 hours I have had the phone, I have customized and tweaked it to my liking. I installed several programs I know I will love, and NO MORE LAGGING. I'm just missing 2 games and the Seidio Slim Extended Battery, and then it will be the phone I will carry everywhere for the next 2 years.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
WM is great!

Disagree too,

Yes there are some issues, but if you spend some time tweaking and configuring you can get great results (using a good ROM)

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Guys vote on my sig!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
Internet troll is trolling..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] poriggity:
I'm new here, but I didn't join just to post this. I am gonna be getting a Tilt2 in the next couple days, and wanted to read up on things. I have had a few WinMo phones, and I currently have an Iphone... I have jailbroken my iphone, and the things I could do with it improved drastically, but I will tell you, stock for stock, I prefer the WinMo OS over the Iphone OS. I like it so much better, that now that it's upgrade time, I'm going back to WinMo with the tilt2.

Scott
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jcterry:
Try gyrator.

Try here and here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] intruda119:
I hate that everyone always threaten windows mobile users with picking up an Iphone. No one can make your mind up for you. Every phone/os has its problems and none will be perfect. I respect apple for waking up the industry and making everyone step there game up. But as far as im concerned anyone not computer illiterate, not picking winmo or even android before iphone reminds me of people who pay 100 for an hdmi cable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jubeh:
My main beef with the T-Mo TP2 was the browser. There's IE, but IE is IE and we all know to avoid it like the plague, however, for certain things, it worked much better than the (surprisingly) crappy Opera Mobile 9 included in the latest Tmo US build.

It all changed, though, when I got Opera Mini 5 beta. That browser should be the standard against which all mobile browsers should be measured.

I also figured out how stupidly simple it's to tether my phone's 3G connection to my laptop with Vista (rather than android requiring a rooted system and kernel support) with an official build, no less. There are some things that lack polish, but HTC made a formidable job of keeping those encounters with the uglier parts of winmo at a minimum.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] daguila:
If you are just looking to use games and entertainment apps i strongly suggest you an iphone... WinMo devices are more for productivity and less for entertainment iphones on the contrary were made for the masses so that my be your kind of phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] redpoint73:
Yeah, WM really sucks, such as:

1) That sucky ability to tether and use as a WiFi hotspot.

2) Sucks that the hardware keyboard is hands down superior to the stupid iPhone on screen keyboard.

3) Sucks that MS Office is native, and greatly enhances my productivity on the road.

4) Sucks that I can customize and customize, where the iPhone is stuck how Steve Jobs wants it to look and work.

5) Sucks that the TP2 speaker phone is incredible. So good that I used it during a 10-person business meeting at a remote site where there were no landlines (iPhone could have never accomplished this).

Man, WM sucks! I better get an iPhone! ;););)

Anyway, most the iPhone "apps" that people are always raving about are all GAMES. I like to casually distract myself from time to time at the airport and such. But there are enough WM games for that. When it comes down to real apps, iPhone owners actually don't have many, they just download games. And there are WM versions of practically all of those.

If you're a kid that needs a toy, the iPhone is perfect. If you're an adult with real business needs, the iPhone doesn't cut it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] oisact:
Why does it suck so bad? That's easy. Same reason IE 6 sucked horrendously, but was still used by 90%+ of all people browsing the web. Because Microsoft will take over a market, then let their products stagnate. They won't do anything groundbreaking or cutting edge at all once they've wiped out the competition.

Windows CE is 14 years old, and it is still the core of a lot of Windows Mobile. When MS finally beat Palm to rule the PDA market they let their OS stagnate. Along came cell phone connectivity, and MS made only minor changes to the OS to adapt it for smartphone use. MS didn't make any real efforts regarding a finger-based GUI until the iPhone came along and showed how bad Windows Mobile was in that area. Now MS is playing catch up - just like when Firefox came along and suddenly started eating up IE 6's market share, and woke MS up. They will catch up - it's much easier to implement something when someone else has already shown how it can be done. So I expect Windows 7 will be pretty slick.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Ivanstein:
hmmm... I have long pondered this question myself.

But, as the eternal wisdom of Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie has shown us, "Every OS sucks."

So, it really comes down to a few deciding factors:

If you are a pompous **** that drives a BMW 3 series because you really can't afford a real Beamer, but you still want to catch diseases from women you don't know, you'd better get the iPhone.

If you question your own sexuality and you beg your mother to let you go to the $8 a cup coffee house to watch your favorite beatnick while wearing a $200 dollar Tshirt that looks like something from goodwill and you're 47, spend that extra $57 a month and get a droid.

If you're a pencilneck geek that probably hasn't had a sexual experience with someone else in a few years, but you have hacked into your toaster to burn computer generated pictures on your Albert Einstein shaped frozen french toast that you pulled out of your freezer that you grafted a 52" LCD screen onto that has your favorite fish from Dream Aquarium on it as your "pets", Winmo is probably for you.

(I hope everyone understands this post was made in jest.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tjinjer:
I wish we could "favorite" posts in the forum.....

...this would be a fave! LMAO
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] aniym:
I think the explanation for how crappy and slow WM cannot be rooted in Microsoft dominance. That explanation makes sense when talking about Windows, but MS never had a large share of the smartphone market. It may have been one of the earliest smartphone OS'es, but RIM's Blackberry has dominated the business-end of the smartphone spectrum in the US, Canada and the UK for a few years now.

I don't know what big business in East Asia, Continental Europe and the Middle East use, but I'm guessing it's not WinMo.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stevedebi:
Personally I think it is the way they designed the WM OS. The registry entries are similar to what Windows has always used, and I suspect that the multi tasking and other OS capabilities are modeled after Windows products. The OS multiasks OK, but lags in the operator interface and updating the screen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] honestgabe00:
While I feel that most of the main points have been hit, here's my view. A few people have already said that WinMo is NOT meant as a gaming/entertainment OS, and they are very right. I use my Touch Pro2 for mail, conference calling, calender etc, and gaming and entertainment when I'm bored or something. I like to think of it like a netbook: it excels at internet (Opera 10 beta is a ninja) and other things, and games as a secondary use only. If WinMo doesn't fit your needs in a phone, then maybe look somewhere else. I also love flashing new roms, trying out android and ubuntu, and personalizing the UI of my phone....

Sent from my HTC Touch Pro2 =)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] akashastrega:
For the record...I have had at least ONE sexual experience in the last few years and my twins are proof of THAT!! And my frozen French Toast is shaped like Tesla...and its not dream aquarium, it's Fish World!!

:D:D:D:D:D

I use my WinMo to keep my life organized. It excels at BUSINESS...if I am waiting at an appointment, then maybe I'll listen to some music or play a game, but those abilities are not my NEEDS...my needs are keeping my life in order.

Like I said, I tried droid and even crackberry, and have enough friends with iPhones, for ME, sucky WinMo wins hands down...probably for the exact reason that the OP has given it a major Suck Factor!!

Said it before, I'll say it again, its like Timex!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] worwig:
Another iPhony troll.

Please please please do get an iPhone, I'm sure you are a perfect match for it.
[General Questions and Answers] prashanth2009:
There are a lot of ROMs for windows mobile 6.5 for asus p320 and im really confused as to which ROM is the most stable and is the most responsive . Im currently running 23085 build and i find it pretty slow on my phone and i want to change it to a more stable and more faster ROM even if it is a little older version . I really hope somebody could point out the most stable and fast ROM as of now.

Thanks...
[General Questions and Answers] Sarvesh.huddedar:
Will someone commnet here... I am also seaching for the WM 6.5 for my ASUS P320 device ?
[General Questions and Answers] pupakota:
Go there:

http://asusmobile.net/board/

if you want to spend some time for translations, go there:

http://asusmobile.ru/board/index.php?c=20

(review of topics may give you some WWE roms there)

imo, you'd better find/make good 6.1 system, than struggle with 6.5.x fails.

Unfortunately, your p320 is worst thing you ever can get from Asus(omap cpu,), and there's no WAY to get heavy, fullblown 6.5.x with its "new" gui working ok enough.
[General Questions and Answers] jaskiratsingh:
Hi Prashanth and Sarvesh,

I am using WM 6.5 ROM build 23504.5.3.0. My device is 2 years old and i like the performance of the ROM. Its faster than WM6.1, more responsive than WM6.1. In short the performance is much better than WM 6.1. You can try it out on psppc.in.

PS: Do you face a network drop issue in your WM 6.5 ROM?
[General Questions and Answers] khankll:
where can i find it and does it have the imei issue ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ErwinLamat:
greeting to all members

i owned a GSM version of HTC TP2, running on WM 6.5 ver 1.****

ive downloaded the ROM update at the HTC support website and try to update my ROM to the latest ver. but, my updating process got stuck at 8% stating the errorr 260. ive try to do the recovery for few times but, same problem occur..

so, i need some help on how to rollback, if possible the update process because when i on my device, its only show 3 colours..please help me recover my device.

my device is empty now.huhu :(

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Welcome to forums,

Have a deep read here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550540

hope it helps

Good luck,

and please don´t forget to vote:)
[Nexus One General] temperbad:
Seems like its a simple thing how come android didn't inlude it?..... the iphoners make fun over it...lol
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Because Apple has a patent on it? :D
[Nexus One General] temperbad:
Huh? No windows can too and basic cricket phones too...
[Nexus One General] Mafian:
lol we really cant see gifs can we? LOL GOOGLE!!! make a protocol that converts gifs to a special format and patent it lol
[Nexus One General] temperbad:
And even if we can't in the browser you would think just looking at them after saved would show the animation but thats not the case. Even the basic phones can, like cheapo flips....

Good idea on the app wish I knew how, get on that and give me part of your earnings.lol. j/k
[Nexus One General] Kyogre:
For playing animated GIF:

1. Download Opera Mobile (non Opera Mini)

2. enter in the address bar

file:

3. Select your gif

It works without HTC Sense
[Nexus One General] blunden:
Either using CM or compiling Android yourself will allow you to view animated gifs just fine in the browser and has so for quite a while. I've not tried animated gifs outside the browser though. It was originally disabled because of the memory consumption as far as I know.
[Nexus One General] BiTXBoi:
we can't??

I've been watching gifs on my Nexus One for quite a long time already...:confused:
[Nexus One General] steezedout:
Never tried on stock but def works on CM
[Nexus One General] zmodp:
---download "AnimGIF" from market. it is a LWP that uses GIFs. pretty cool
[Nexus One General] grainysand:
Okay? I thought stock 2.2 displayed animated gif just fine, but it's been a long time since I used a stock ROM.
[Nexus One General] GldRush98:
****ing hell. Why was a 7 month old thread not even relevant to current Android releases bumped??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE.
[Nexus One General] SBERG117:
Whats not relevant? People are having problems viewing animated GIF files. I cant. I keep hearing that im supposed to be able to with cm6.1 rc1 installed. Still cant.

I keep reading about viewing files in the browser. Can i open a file i have stored on my sd in browser? Why cant i open the file from my gallery? Certain setting im missing? Been searching around and really cant find any answers. If someone has a link or some sort of info to help out that would be great. thnx
[Nexus One General] simms22:
you can view them while surfing the net through the browser, but you can not view them through the gallery. you can store them on your phone(sd), but you can not view them.
[Nexus One General] SBERG117:
Cool thnx.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alias_neo:
Hi guys, I have had a play around today and wanted to give you guys a look at the fruits of my labour as a thanks for all the help I have received.

This ROM is developed for my personal use, my aim is to keep it clean and minimal, and mainly to ensure something working for the UK users.

Screenshots:

Info:

Based on Lox Clean 2.1 SenseUI with some fixes for sleep issue etc.

Nothing removed except Stocks widgets and app.

Manual APPS2SD added by Lox, I don't use it so I havn't tested, please let me know if it works.

Added:

aNetshare. (in data - Removable)

ASTRO File Manager (in data - Removable)

Google Maps with Multitouch (in data - Removable)

JBed Java

Removed:

Some ringtones and sounds.

Stock app and widgets.

amazonmp3

Visual Voice Mail (Verizon, useless in UK)

HTC Navi Panel (Car Panel)

Works:

Everything

Multitouch Maps

Google Navigation in UK (and elsewhere)

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NEWS 1.3b:

I have been testing 1.3b for a few hours now, I would

like to provide the following information and ask some

people to PM me in order to beta test it before I release it.

GPS: GPS now appears to work fine, I can get a lock within 5-10 seconds on first boot. I downloaded GPS Test(free) from market and tested, all OK!

Screen off during call: I included proximity sensor in this ROM to test the brightness sensor, which showed it does infact detect brightness. I then uninstalled proximity sensor app and tested again, furing call the backlight switches off after a few seconds!

Auto brightness: On first boot, the backlights of the keys (call, menu, home, end, etc) did not work. Go to settings, sound and display, brightness, turn OFF auto-brightness, click OK, brightness again, turn ON auto-brightness, click OK. The keys light and turn off depending on ambient light (I tested with a mag-lite)

Please test some of these things on the current 1.3 and give feedback.

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Changelog v1.3 - NO WIPE update13.zip

No Wipe Update

Fixed Weather white block bug.

Attempted More battery fixes, please test.

Changelog v1.2:

Removed Navigatior Car Panel (install from Market with Maps along side the current hacked maps for full features.)

Added MMSZap in case you have an MMS problem.

Lots of APNs

Added some binaries.

Sleep fix: Battery life should now be MUCH better.

NEW INSTALL (coming from a different CUSTOM ROM other than NeORoM):

Download v1.2 full and v1.3(update13.zip)

go to recovery

wipe ALL & Dalvik

flash 1.2 from SD card.

flash updatev13.zip from SD card.

reboot.

UPDATE (coming from NeORoM 1.2):

Download v1.3(update13.zip)

go to recovery

wipe (optional)

flash updatev13.zip from SD card.

reboot

v1.3 Download Links:

MULTIUPLOAD

v1.2 Download Links:

DOWNLOAD HERE

Mirrors:

RAPIDSHARE

Thanks:

Lox for the base

Kendong2 for dmagent fix

TheAshMan for his patience and help.

Everyone who has provided mirrors.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rankjie:
Good job!

Gonna test it soon.:)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Gohann001:
testing

TNX,

going to test it now!!

great work>>>

:D:D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] e.japonica:
anyone able to download a complete rom? i got stuck a 66.9%
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rdgut:
I'll upload this to rapidshare once I've downloaded it.

mirrored: http://rapidshare.com/files/360153421/NeORoM1.1.zip
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kien:
Just flashed this but having a couple of issues:

- In navigator, view maps and navigation links don't work

- HTC Clock with weather (using current location) says weather data is not available, using 1.5 ROM in same location its fine.

Otherwise a great 2.1 ROM :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alias_neo:
You are right about the navigator, I seem to have broken that when I replaced maps with the multitouch version, i'll see if I can workaround that otherwise might have to switch out maps for the normal one.

As for the widgets I'm not sure why they wouldn't work, as you can see from my screenshot it's working fine for me and I use the same thing (current location), do you have a working data connection? It pops up about 5 seconds after fresh flash for me.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kien:
Yep, have working data connection and wifi, if I add the location manually it downloads the weather, but the same location using current location it doesn't :(
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alias_neo:
Can you get your location in maps without GPS? Using cell location?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kien:
Yep, its finding my location in Maps and Weather apps, but not downloading the weather data.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alias_neo:
Try flashing one of the NetLoc files and see how you get on.

I'm not sure what the problem could be there, I made no changes to the widgets or network location, did you try any others where it worked?

As for maps, I have found the problem, but it doesn't seem there is an easy fix, the hacked multitouch maps by brut were renamed to "m4ps to allow installing alongside the normal maps. If we have both installed we can do everything we need, is that acceptable? or shall i go back to standard without multitouch? I have tried some hack and slash renaming of the app back to "maps" but i think theres some other stuff i missed and it just force closes every time.

If anyone knows of a working multitouch maps and navigation panel that allows nagivation outside US let me know.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] VaddR:
APN

Please? include more APNs in your ROM.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alias_neo:
I'll get straight on it, my apologies.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mauro269:
New Fast Mirror (120-130 Kb/s): http://depositfiles.com/files/5hn8qa4rb
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] VaddR:
Weather animation

When i unlock the lockscreen and the weather animation appeared i got white box !!!

Yhe wearher is sunny !!!!

Please, check it !
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alias_neo:
Uploading v1.2

Currently uploading v1.2

Changes:

Removed "Navigator" (sorry, I decided long and hard and went in favour of multitouch maps after finding it impossible to get them al to work together) If you want this back install it and normal maps from market and you can use all together perfectly.

MMS Fix: Preventative fix, some people mentioned MMS not working on other ROMs, I added MMSZap, a frontend by a dev from HTCPedia which you can use if it doesn't work then just uninstall.

Lots of APNs as per the request.

Added a couple of useful binaries.

Sleep fix: battery drain should now be much lower than v1.1.

Some other stuff I can't remember.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alias_neo:
I just noticed this on my ROM too! I'll take a look into it and try release a update.zip to fix it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] e.japonica:
mirror pls nono rapidshare pls.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rdgut:
Mirror: http://www.multiupload.com/MIWS5TGWUF

Includes lots of websites :)

Give it some time to upload it first
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alias_neo:
Hosts

I have tried every mirror site I can think of and sendspace is the only one that will open on my ISP, it used to be a problem with DNS errors but it seems even with their IPs I can't get to them any more.

So, if anyone wants to upload mirrors I'll happily link them in the first post.

Once I get back to work tomorrow I can upload to any place you like with their 50Meg upload.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] VaddR:
Waiting for Wether Fix !!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alias_neo:
I'm working on it, without being able to find the exact files I can't know for sure through trial and error until I can test, and since we never get any damn sunlight here in the UK I can't tell yet if it's working or not :(
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kien:
Hi, I tried another 2.1 ROM and had the same issue, updated my recovery console, did a dalvik wipe as well as full wipe (previous recovery console only had full wipe) and current location weather is working now :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] VaddR:
When you put HTC Clock widget on screen you can select any town as HOME !!!