yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero CDMA General] cteneyck:
This is why i don't post roms. its a sad day at xda.
[Hero CDMA General] FoxRacR17:
Awwww man gbhil, i was REALLY looking forward to what you would cook up once we got a proper 2.1 release from sprint. I started out a fresh rom guy on my mine and my girls phone, then i decided to try gumbo when you came out with that modded kernel and i never looked back, your work was amazing and thanks so much for it. I'm sad to see you go because of one bad apple.
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Not only at XDA, but for Android Central and CDMA Heros in general.
[Hero CDMA General] auxny:
gbhil, steal the rom that was posted with ur name in it, and name it after them then put pirated appz in there, so u return the favor, but instead of 1 app, put like 30 apps, so 30 app devs start bustin their balls
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
id like to know the dev or name of the rom tbh.
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
In the end, that hurts Android more than a dumb ROM dev.
[Hero CDMA General] smw6180:
I can't even begin to state how bad an idea that is.
[Hero CDMA General] auxny:
Don't be jealous because you didn't think of it naab. heres another idea, call the FBI and tell them that the dev who posted that rom has osama bin laden hiding in his basement. kablam, pay back.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
there really isn't a reason for him to leave. just have the noob dev delete the rom and thats, that. or at least tell us a name of the guy so some of us honest people can install a different rom.
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
What if we find out the dev and ROM? he deletes it, takes blame and then what? Hell disappear, change his name, come forth with a new ROM and then gains the trust of a few people. Just let it go.
[Hero CDMA General] linkinx64:
Just give me an address man, I have some Cuban friends...they will deal with him/her
[Hero CDMA General] auxny:
LOL u sir are awesome
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Now that made me smile. :D
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
gb will be back, trust me. he's doing this to let things settle down. they had the same **** happen when i owned a htc touch vogue. a few of the devs for android had to stop for awhile to let things quiet down becuase they had custom palm pre theme and palm threatened. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] funcrusher:
So, my cuban friends that I've known for years are actually hitmen??

****!
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Was it Gbhil himself?
[Hero CDMA General] chubbzlou:
There is always an asshole that ruins eveything. Keep your head up. You will be missed.
[Hero CDMA General] linkinx64:
Hell yea.. we all came in boats , what do you think huh! :)
[Hero CDMA General] grifforama:
It's definitely whatever ROM's have Telenav. Telenav is NOT free.

So, Chocmatic, I think you are the guilty culprit.

http://chocmatic.blogspot.com/
[Hero CDMA General] funcrusher:
Probably not the best idea to point fingers for now, although, it does sound fun.
[Hero CDMA General] linkinx64:
Hey man your flag and mine...only has changed colors :) glad to see some latin android fans :D
[Hero CDMA General] auxny:
4chan here i come!
[Hero CDMA General] rockcrawler:
You should just stop while you're ahead. If you are "Stealing" licensed software off the Internet then you are a pirate. Period.
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Arent we allowed to use Telenav since its basically Sprint Nav un-branded? Other sites link to download Telenav because people dont like the new Sprin Nav version.
[Hero CDMA General] funcrusher:
SprintNav is made by TeleNav and it is free for us. It's not like it's an altered version floating around. We're able to use it because of our Sprint credentials.
[Hero CDMA General] auxny:
ARGGGGGGG!
[Hero CDMA General] bob2300nx:
I hope your joking man. Why does everyone have to get in middle of things. Just let everything calm down.
[Hero CDMA General] auxny:
its a joke f00
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Lol, yea. Theres a few of us around.
[Hero CDMA General] someonenewhere:
TeleNav it's a free app for Sprint Nav users, so therefore anyone using TeleNav it's not doing anything illegal ...
[Hero CDMA General] grifforama:
Maybe. But you are not allowed to distribute it in a ROM.

It's stealing.
[Hero CDMA General] grifforama:
Using yes.

Distributing in a ROM. No.
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Its not stealing if its free for us. If it were used in a GSM Hero or unlocked Android phone, then its different. I believe that the ROM included GDE which IS a paid app.
[Hero CDMA General] wtphoto:
gbhil I just want to say thank you for all the work that you have done and all for nothing more than a thank you and for the love of developing, and for all the help that you have given me and so many others. it is a sad day when we see someone of your skill decided to quit. I do hope that you will change your mind but I understand your reasons.

Thank you again and please at least stop in to say hello.
[Hero CDMA General] grifforama:
Show me where unbranded Telenav is free for Sprint users.

Show me where to download it legally.
[Hero CDMA General] whatsleft4her:
guys aloyisious has gde built in!
[Hero CDMA General] rockcrawler:
EXACTLY!! :mad:
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
But its not based on Gumbo, only has the kernel. Its based on Fresh 1.1.
[Hero CDMA General] whatsleft4her:
he needs to be banned for this!
[Hero CDMA General] whatsleft4her:
the kernal is the boot img i think
[Hero CDMA General] Avalaunchmods:
Boot image contains kernel. Fresh 1.1 without the kernel is just visual things
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Oh ok.

10 lols
[Hero CDMA General] troyboytn:
Good Lord! A lynchmob on the rise. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
The thing is, we dont know who to lynch.
[Hero CDMA General] mercado79:
No way is it Telenav. You can download it from their site for free...all versions including the non-branded one. I'm not sure how they do it, but it seems like they are able to check your phone number against some kind of cell phone company registry. If you're not on it, you won't be able to use the software. My phone was dropped off the list for some reason and now it says I have to activate my phone's plan or pay for the subscription.

In any case, he did say "This morning I received an email from the developer of a popular market application." Telenav is not in the market. So you guys really need to be careful who you're pointing fingers at. No one knows for sure who the culprit is.
[Hero CDMA General] grifforama:
Seriously. You CANNOT download it for free. You will be told you have to use Sprint Nav and that it's bundled. If you try to downoad anything else, you are asked to pay 9.99 subscription for it.

Try it yourself. Go on. Show me where it says "If you are a Sprint customer, feel free to download the unbranded Telenav"
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Check your PM griff. And I do believe Telenav checks your phone to make sure youre on Sprint.
[Hero CDMA General] funcrusher:
Jesus Christ. OMG DON'T TELL ME ITS NOT TELENAVS!
[Hero CDMA General] pseudoremora:
This is seriously ****ed up. Gbhil has done some amazing work and its a shame that this has to happen.:mad:
[Hero CDMA General] khaag27:
i agree. Im sad to see him go :(
[Hero CDMA General] notasimpleway:
ghbhill, I will buy my dad a whole year's subscription of Popular Mechanics if you just let things cool off and come back. :D
[Hero CDMA General] darchstar:
i literally cried a bit. gbhil you were a huge inspiration to me alongside all the other aosp and 2.x devs. the community will sorely miss your hard work
[Hero CDMA General] boredmug:
um... Isn't it kinda obvious what the offending app is? lol.. GDE?!?
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
It is GDE. Telenav is free for Sprint users with a data plan.
[Hero CDMA General] khaag27:
whats GDE??
[Hero CDMA General] darchstar:
http://tinyurl.com/yeu6cnd
[Hero CDMA General] khaag27:
hahaha very funny.
[Hero CDMA General] darchstar:
lol, sorry, it was just too easy to get you with that. I mean the first two results were about the app. :D
[Hero CDMA General] khaag27:
well I thought maybe it was a code name for a rom or something. sorry for asking a question. I'll just google everything for now on.
[Hero CDMA General] rockcrawler:
Thats exactly why I never click on Tiny links in forums LOL :D
[Hero CDMA General] bob2300nx:
Technology is really advancing. Its awesome that they get internet in the kitchen!
[Hero CDMA General] mrcharlesiv:
Dude. That's not cool. At all.
[Hero CDMA General] rockcrawler:
+1 ...........
[Hero CDMA General] corybucher:
its a sad sad day to see one of the best devs go because of something like this. thank you Gbhil for all that you have done for this community and your work will for sure be missed.
[Hero CDMA General] ccapasso:
gbhil,

Posted on androidcentral, but wanted to do so here as well. First off, thank you for all your hard work and time.

It certainly sucks that this has happened, and hopefully it can be resolved.

I also hope you do come back, but whatever you decide, best wishes and thanks again :)
[Hero CDMA General] chococrazy:
By full off I'm pretty sure he means more than 1 application, but only one developers contacted him.
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Only one way to find out... Im going to Bunker Hill with a pack of ciggs a 12 pack and some questions that need answering.
[Hero CDMA General] Seanc13:
Damn this sucks, I'm using oe of his roms right now and its by far the best Ive had on this phone
[Hero CDMA General] Sporkman:
idk what app did it people need to grow up and let it go, there are some real children that are posting here .. sad really
[Hero CDMA General] kratos313:
I'll grab a few buses and we can take everyone with us...

but man this is some really bad news..... still in shock about this :eek:
[Hero CDMA General] 98classic:
man you guys are ****ing retarded, more than half of you dont know their ass from their toe. telenav has a trial either way so anyone can download it and try it with out paying for a certain period of time. and calling any dev a noob over a mistake is ridiculous, stfu and do something better then. gees so many mouths but only a couple of brains.
[Hero CDMA General] funcrusher:
98classic full of rage ITT
[Hero CDMA General] pseudoremora:
Thanks? And I didn't understand -- we're you addressing us or speaking about yourself?
[Hero CDMA General] ItsDon:
Jerry,

Thank you for all you've done. I hope things work out for you. I've been a fan since your first rom, you will be missed.

Don
[Hero CDMA General] mrinehart93:
I think the lesson to be learned from this is that to any current dev or future dev, don't release public ROM's with any market apps in them. Plain and simple. If the user wants the app, let them install the app. gbhil, I'm going to miss you here. Without your kernel, my phone would have been thrown against a wall due to lagrage.
[Hero CDMA General] atoz350:
First the telenav that was put into that ROM is not the trial. Many apps have a trial. That was a full blown version. Apologies were in my post as I don't think that ROM is the culprit, just another ROM featuring a paid app. And since you think you can call people on here out, what have you contributed to this forum? I am a developer.
[Hero CDMA General] meth84:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-rogro-gde-zwAp.aspx

gde was primary to that rom at first and its a new paid app
[Hero CDMA General] atoz350:
:eek: Whoa, whoa, whoa. I simply stated that while I was looking for TeleNav, I found that it was not a free app. gbhil specifically stated that the offending app was a market app. TeleNav is not a market app.

It is not free for Sprint users. Sprint Navigation is free. That is a modified version of TeleNav's program that Sprint has already paid for. The actual TeleNav app is not free for anyone. That being said, it should not be included in a ROM. That's simply a warning to anyone using it, you may get a notice from TeleNav if they get wind of your ROM. I'm only trying to help.
[Hero CDMA General] jeric71:
What apps are in the Pancake ROM? All the post says are "some must have apps" - which hint at the plurality of ghbil's post. I'm just wondering, as I've never downloaded or flashed this ROM. This might be a potential culprit to look at.
[Hero CDMA General] bikcmp:
I sure hope this isn't the case. I would expect to of gotten a warning or something, and I would of gladly complied, but I don't have *any* warnings at all from anyone. In fact I actually only used open-source applications, and one's I've seen scattered in other ROMs, and not one single paid application. Additionally, I didn't put GBphil as making it; I put by bikcmp based on gumbo :P. Don't point fingers here. We all make little mistakes. So, as far as I Know, this isn't my ROM. I do however know who he's talking about, but like I said, I'm not pointing fingers.
[Hero CDMA General] magicalan:
thanks for your work

bye
[Hero CDMA General] atoz350:
The only other program I can think of is SetCPU, which is only free for XDA members. It is also sold as a paid app in the market. If the ROM in question included it, and was distributed outside of XDA, it may be in violation.
[Hero CDMA General] 98classic:
*yawn*......
[Hero CDMA General] zenulator:
I don't think that witch hunting the offending rom is the way to go about this send off for gbhil. He knows which one it is and from what I've read he's already dealt with it. I don't think this situation is worth totally abandoning something he obviously has a passion for but as I've witnessed at xda and other ppc sites drama, ego, and pirating go hand even for a so called "open source" operating system. Don't forget that most of these 2.1 sense roms use "leaked" non public proprietary htc software as well as googles proprietary apps which aren't' supposed to be distributed outside of the manufacturers rom.

Namaste,

Jason

Bluecove R&D
[Hero CDMA General] flexgrip:
Exactly what I was thinking regarding the use of proprietary software. People don't often think about distribution guidelines as part of the license. Although I would never accuse these devs of piracy because they are using leaked versions of HTC software... solely because HTC didn't give a crap about adhering to the GPL when it came to the kernel.

HTC lost the open-source spirit of things when they pulled that (and still are). But I can see why dude wants to move to something else. For me, it is not about licenses and piracy; it is the spirit of the whole thing. Yeah, HTC forked over the kernel after I (and others) called them with refund requests. But its not about just giving us the kernel because of angry customers, they should want to do it... want to encourage others to add to their work. And gbhil is one casualty of many that stems from people losing that spirit.
[Hero CDMA General] jjjjayd13:
GBHIL ;-)))

Gb you 'REALLY' did bring some GREAT work to the Android community. I hope you will reconsider since the 'developer' understood 'after' you explained matters to him.

Stay Strong!!!!

jayd, ;-))):cool:
[Hero CDMA General] gbhil:
Last and only post on this subject here.

All anyone had to do was ask me and i would have told you it was not Konikub. The way fingers got pointed at him made me realize i made the right decision. This whole mess has turned into a greedfest just like the G1 development community.

Sorry Konikub.
[Hero CDMA General] usq:
thank you!

jerry-

first and foremost, i really appreciate the hard work that you have put into making the hero a better phone. i bet i am not alone in saying that i hope you continue to help and forge ahead into new territory.

i am shocked and amazed at the enthusiasm built around the andriod os. on one hand it really has help spurn the development but on the other it seems to have gotten a bit out of hand. i doubt (and really hope) that none of this has been done out of an overreaching malcontent for others.

at this point (hopefully not the end) people like you have inspired amateur 'open source' newbies like myself to venture a bit further into the fray.

cheers and thanks again!

ryan
[Hero CDMA General] Jwahlg:
I would also like to post my thanks to gbhil.

You were always my favorite developer and I've probably flashed

just about every single one of your roms as you released them.

Sigh.. This just stinks though, I hope that your future efforts go

as noticed as they were here. We'll miss you for a great figure in

Hero dev has just left us.
[Hero CDMA General] nutswillkillme:
maybe we'll get lucky and he'll realize he was the top dawg and will have to reclaim his thrown... Love the other devs too, but wow, he had some amazing stuff. So fast.
[Hero CDMA General] KBizzle:
Thanks for your hard work, Gbhil.
[Hero CDMA General] fatkitty420:
Guess I'm stuck at 1.5c
[Hero CDMA General] jashiver22:
thkx gbhil

sorry to see you go... always did such great work for all of us with ur ROM's, Kernel's and hacks... hope we can all still see you here from time to time... thkx for all ur hard work
[Hero CDMA General] 305android:
+1

and i can help link get some more cubans too lol
[Hero CDMA General] 305android:
que bola asere?

lol same here!!

hmm... how bout a cuban and/or p.r themed rom?...... :)
[Hero CDMA General] rockage:
ok I know for a fact they will replace your htc hero (it'll be refurbished, but if your dust is as bad as it is on mine then it's worth it).

this is what I did (it's long kinda, i'll put a tl;dr at the bottom) to get a refurbed phone from sprint for no money.

skip to bottom if you want summarized version

-spent about 30 minutes in a sprint live chat, the denied any problems with the phone and tried blaming it on me, I said their forum is full of cases of people with the issue, they told me they don't support online forums. I said then why do you guys have one. they asked for a link to the thread (i linked to one with a bunch of complaints about it in one thread) and told me to just go to the repair center and they would fix it for free, no problems at all.

-went to the sprint repair center, they said sure it'll take about 30 minutes BEFORE my phone went to the back by the techs they opened it up and said it had water damage. I stood there dumbfounded, not once had my phone been near water. He said it was from sweaty palms or sweat on my head. I said come on dude the phone has no problems other than the dust, the water detecting strip isn't even all red it's no big deal, he wouldn't budge though. he told me to go pay 100 for a refurb (deductible)

-called sprint *2. summarized what just happened they said oh no they should have been able to fix it for you. I asked what now ? they said they could have a refurbed phone sent out to me instead of having me go back there. HOWEVER if there was water damage they would charge me (I'm sure there isn't though, the strip isnt' fully activated yet).

summarized

tl;dr - If you have dust, take your phone to the repair center, they can take it apart safely, without voiding the warranty. If you have a custom rom, just take out the battery before giving them the phone. If you have ANY signs of water damage, call *2, explain that you just tried to have the dust blown out at a repair center and they refused due to a minute amount of water on the sensor. they will ship one to you in 2-5 days.

I guess this is mostly my little rant on how much sprint likes to pawn their responsibilities of on the next person. Everytime i go to the damn repair center they say water damage !
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
yeah i just got my replacement the other day becuase of dust only mine was new not refurb. :D
[Hero CDMA General] rockage:
I'm assuming it'll be refurbed, but it may be new, I will post what it is when I get it (probably monday or tuesday).
[Hero CDMA General] mattcoz:
I'm going to have to do this soon, mine is filling up.
[Hero CDMA General] bob2300nx:
So the solution is replaced phones/cleaning out. But they have not fixed this problem? Makes no sense.
[Hero CDMA General] auxny:
Did you guys ever think of cleaning your houses? wtf? I've had 2 heros since it came out, and neither of them have any dust what so ever
[Hero CDMA General] bob2300nx:
So the issue is unclean houses? Your logic at the very least is interesting. And you having two clean heros does make you an expert, I mean that is a big sample size. Those filthy dusty pigs!
[Hero CDMA General] auxny:
i agree :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] samh61:
For the Brave who want to clean their own...

androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/22036-sprint-htc-hero-disassembly-diy.html:D[/url]
[Hero CDMA General] bob2300nx:
Yeah and the fact that none of their other electronics have dust in their displays is pure luck. Sprint should just email all those whiny bastards and tell them to take a shower every once and awhile.
[Hero CDMA General] auxny:
It's like your in my head d00d. instead of replacement phones, they should get you guys a hover vacuum
[Hero CDMA General] rockage:
I have had a zagg case on my hero since day one and dust has filled the lower screen and top left part of the screen as well. I don't live in a dusty house, not that it would matter really since I'm hardly home.

Also, yes you could disassemble your phone, but that could void the warranty, and this was is free and you could get a new phone from it.
[Hero CDMA General] bubbacs1:
Tell ur mom to start cleaning out your pants pockets better.

Stop placing the damn phone into those filthy pockets till she learns to do the laundry correctly.

Or better yet, how about YOU take a min to clean them before YOU put them on......dust problem solved......your welcome!!! :D
[Hero CDMA General] Sporkman:
dang every time you post you make your self look like an ass lol
[Hero CDMA General] auxny:
this is the internet, young sir, so only a no life loser would care if they look like an ass online, so skeet skeet your face!
[Hero CDMA General] zeropants:
Or a complete prick...
[Hero CDMA General] kellybrf:
unlike vzw, sprint techs dont use the indicator strip as evidence of water damage. it can be a clue, but when they take the phone apart they have to find corrosion on the board to claim liquid damage. believe it or not they actually get paid to fix phones (and are tracked on when they fix a phone versus referring to insuance or having to exchange it) so the techs want to fix as many phones as possible. the hero dust issue is a very easy repair too.

also, theres no such thing as "not enough" water damage. when moisture gets on the strip it turns colors, plain and simple. yes, if it is submerged then it will get more red than if its just a drop of water, but a drop of water is all it takes to fry electronics. now chances are the warehouse wont look at it enough to charge you, but do be weary if the techs makred the device damaged beyond repair which they should have if they denied the repair in the first place.
[Hero CDMA General] rockage:
the tech didnt get to look at my phone it was someone at the front counter he opened it up without saying anything to me and said oh theres water damage. the whole strip isn't red is what I meant. I never dropped it or came close to water so I'm positive it doesn't have water damage on the inside.

the person said that if the indicator is red AT ALL they can't touch the phone because they don't want to take a risk, they recommended that I took the phone to a third party store where it isn't guaranteed. I called sprint right after the tech store and they agreed with me though.
[Hero CDMA General] clamknuckle:
Sprint techs don't get paid to repair phones, well, not per phone. We get paid an hourly wage.

Some third parties will pay their employees per phone, but corporate employees don't get paid per phone repair.

I wish we got something per repair. I repair 3-400 phones a month. Even if we got a dollar a repair it would be nice.
[Hero CDMA General] laufine:
I also have this problem. In the same house, my other phones are very clean on the lower screeen. Many GSM users of Hero have the same problem too. I only use my hero for 3+ months. I can see dust on my screen.
[Nexus One General] m3manny:
Is anyone on the Nexus one using the Alpha 12 - MoDaCo Custom ROM with HTC Sense (Desire ROM) ERE36B ?? Instead of ERE27??
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
What do you mean by ERE36B? As in the radio image from ERE36B instead of the ERE27?