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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilrah:
Hey that Qemu solution seems a lot better than the Bochs one indeed... got both my Win95 and Win98 images to run, and the mouse is even useable! :)

I didn't get the keyboard though, there are the couple of keys at the bottom, but is there a way to get a full onscreen keyboard within qemu, or do we have to play with the hardware button to show/hide SIP trick?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ruffruff:
guys, this seems interesting.

instead of doing emulation, can we do something like the haret?

boot the phone from storage card and run win xp tablet on it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GeorgeHome:
what's going on? does it work? will u provide any screenshot?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilrah:
No, because PC versions of Windows are made to run on PC x86 processors, not on the ARM ones used in mobile devices. So, emulation is necessary.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilrah:
Some screenshots...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stoolzo:
nice, but what actual use is this, better to get ubuntu up and running and we can really have a play then.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilrah:
None apart from fun... but ubuntu or linux in general wouldn't be any better if it's an x86 build. Emulation just makes everything way too slow for comfortable use.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NoSecks:
Windows 95 runs also nice and perfect...

only thing is- i got no mouse xD

touchscreen is not working =/

edit: ah okay im still useing bochs, thats why ...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zippi90:
can anyone upload this files in the forum or on a hoster like rapidshare/uploadet ?

because i dont want in reg. me on this russian forum ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RichmondoUK:
yeah i second that but a compiled version!!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aszu:
I created simple compilation with the latest QEMU WM port I could find.

All the credit for this goes to mamaich (excellent work!), I am merely sharing these files.

Links:

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Instructions:

1. Extract QEMU_WM.7z to the root folder on your SD card.

2. Extract additional packages (Win95 or Homm2) to 'emul' directory in QEMU folder.

3. Use qemu_launcher from QEMU folder to start selected VM.

Note: QEMU must be placed in '\Storage Card\QEMU\' directory, otherwise you have to edit 'cmdline.txt' etc files accordingly.

Generally, everything works well and pretty fast (as for emulation). Homm2 is completely playable (with sound!). On Win95 mouse cursor is a bit dodgy - it looks like button clicks are not detected correctly.

Please note that this software (Homm2, Win95) although very old, is still copyrighted, so don't download it if you haven't got license for it. If these links violate forum rules, please remove them.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sagam12:
Hi just a few quick questions:

Does the internet work on windows 95, e.g. can i go on internet explorer and actually go on websites?

Is it possible to run windows 98 on HTC HD2?

I've seen youtube videos with a HTC HD2 running windows xp, vista or 7 on them through remote desktop, is this possible or just a fake?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFiDZ_wBAtM

Can you please post some screens of your HTC HD2 running windows 95 with internet explorer on the screen, thanks alot!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilrah:
Well as you said it's through remote desktop. So it's not fake, but the HD2 is not "running" them either, just displaying on its screen what another computer is running, and interacting with it.

They are, but it needs playing with one of the bottom buttons. See attached picture, the button pointed by the arrow is the key. When it's grey (default), a tap on the screen will do a left click. So a tap&drag will do a left click and drag, i.e selection, moving stuff, etc, which is why it looks weird to you. Tap the button, it turns to black, and now a tap&drag on the screen moves the cursor without clicking, like a laptop touchpad. The button on the left marked "rb" does the same as grey but with right mouse button.

So you need to turn the thing black, move the cursor where you want, tap it to grey, tap or double tap to single/double click, tap it to black, move to some other place, etc, toggling the button each time between movements and clicks. Not very convenient, but works.

I'd gladly try the net etc, but I just tested on my Win98 image, and it has IE and all network drivers stripped out, so no way. Plus, I still haven't found how to get an onscreen keyboard. And W98 is very slow.

Will have a look under W95 tomorrow, it seems that one was complete.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gfunkyg:
Geekaliscious !

Big points peepz - people ask - "why do it"? Answer - "because you can" !!

These proof of concept ideas show innovation & genius and leads to breakthroughs, sometimes in unrelated areas.

Keep up the good work and ignore the haters!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malkrae:
I don't see the point of windows 95 on an HD2 (oh for real!!!):mad:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheATHEiST:
Then why do you even come on this forum?

There is no real "point" other then we simply can and want to for fun. Allot of us grew up with and used Win95 and love the fact that we can boot it from our HD2's.

If you dont "see the point" in this then I suggest you find another forum or at least another topic.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arcoolka:
Did I miss something? Help, please!

1) I installed game "Fallout 1" on "C:" harddrive of my desktop.

2) I ceate a image from files in folder where I installed the game - C://Fallout via ImgBurn and named it Fallout.img

3) I used and changed aszu´s emul_cmdline from HoMM2 to this:

====

-hda

Fallout.img

-boot

c

-std-vga

-m

16

-soundhw

sb16

====

and I put everything to appropriate folder on my HTC device.

When I try to lunch it a message "Boot from Hard Disk 0 failed FATAL: Not a bootable disk" appears. What do i do wrong?

PS: sorry for my bad english.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ionbasa:
just as a side note, when running windows 98 you might want to use leocpuspeed to oc a litle, there is some improvement in performance.

also cant wait to make a windows 3.1 img!! If sucsessful i would be willing to post it. so what do you guys think?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
On Wimo or Android? How to configure emul_cmdline settings on Android?

Qemu is no game player but a virtual computer. You tried somethinglike placing the Game CD into a computer without Harddisk and operating System. Your Image is just the game and you need first a Operating System installed into the virtual machine. The HoMM2 image is a complete oprating system boot C hdd like you would try to compress your complete C partition to a image file including Fallout directory installed so you could boot your windows on qemu HD2 and start Fallout. Dont try this.

Also Fallout should be too high end game for quemu an qualcom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
omg Photoshop is running realy useable on my phone on wimo qemu custom win95. This is so great!!! Photoshop is my all and everything! I can realy open, edit and save all image formats, use all tools, windows fonts, filters... with useable speed and input. Waiting for bluetooth mouse support on HD2.

Also sound works on wimo qemu Win95 sice I typed -soundhw

sb16 into comandline.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
next step 3d studio max ;-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Agent Blair:
That's really really awesome! Maybe you could post a video of it, of course, after you're done trying Starcraft!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Windows 98 running fine on wimo qemu

great news!!!

to get windows 98 full running on qemu Wimo:

THE BIG SECRET AND MATTER OF CAUSE: MSTASK.EXE

~~~~~~~~~ just disable "mstask.exe" ~~~~~~~~~

Step by step: install a windows 98 c partition image on qemu on your windows desktop on comparing or emty qemu hardware setting. Copy on HD2 and try to boot. No Problem in save mode but in normal mode it freeses or crashes if desktop comes up. After 1000 trys to boot with difftrent settings in qemu and windows 98 guest there was a lukky error at desktop start: "could not load mstask.exe". But win98 startet complete and stable in normal mode. To get this error i had to try very bad and slow memory settings. But I just shot image down, renamed "mstask.exe" in Windows/System32 Folder and now it is runnin fast and stable on HD2 with every setting up to 240 MB Ram ;-)

So now I disabled mstask.exe in msconfig/autostart and restore mstask.exe, if it will come up again with errors I will delete it for ever! It is just the "Windows's Task Scheduler service" and causes problems on many Win98 real hardware machines... So now I will try to get Photoshop 7 and 3DStudioMax running and report soon... And I will try 3DMark 99 and 03 :D

Good luck all!! Hope you will find your old 98 CD and report. Or May be try same with win98SE or winME.

Will make a movie soon.

Someone find a way to get the toolbar bigger than the GEN-TOOLBAR size?

Someone knows how to edit settings in qemu android?

Lol this was my rabbit jumping on keyboard:

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
work by me hd2if you need instructions send me pm
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Windows Update

I made some usefull toolbars for boot screen and for Windows Desktop with big Mouse buttons and some usefull keys. Please test and report. Just unrar the *.qtb files, copy to qemu dir and load from menu. You could also change the startup toolbar to the toolbar-boot.qtb so you are able to press F8 or make selections.. If you need somemore keys in bootmenues please let me know. I also will make gamepads for some games.

Unreal and Quake2 are running under Win98 at very low fps but with bluetooth keyboard gamplay is wasd + mouse very nice ;-)

Have to find some faster software-rendered shooter and all other software-3D render engines.

Win98 ist still running stable and "fast", updated to DirectX 9.0c !!! Ie6 and all latest Patches. Photoshop 4, 5 and 5.5 is running realy useable. Deamon Tools, Winrar, Toolbar-Editor, virtual Keyboards, disability input options...

Sound is verry laggy stutterig and I have no internet yet. Dont know if internt is possible with this port. Someone knows if there is any development or discussion about or got it running yet? Direct touch input and 800x480 would be great. How to tweak Windows Desktop to 800x480???

Performance is about Pentium II 300 MHz without hardware 3d acceleration.

The emulated cirrus vga only offers direct draw so 3d software useage is very limited, only software render engines. But 3D is also possible with Software openGL under Win and Dos. If you enable Hardware accelleration in Windows on qemu the CPU slows down to under 100 MHz because HD2 needs power to simulate the additional hardware so in qemu guest it should always be fastest if any hardware acceleration is turned off. Turn it ony on if software requires it to run.

Have trouble to get old 3D Studio Max 3 running. Would be so great but with any 3D renderer setting the view initialization fails. Will try those special studio Max driver for cirrus.

Will try to run qemu in qemu under dos or dosbox in Win98 ;-)

There is a way to run qemu under dos, so if this will be possibleunder dosbox you could add driver to dos and use availible "Hardware" on all Dosbox ports (Wimo, Android, HD2Ubuntu...)

XP is booting to bluescreen at login. May be the reason is a limitation of qemu hardware compatibilty or a processor bug but may be it is just one more Windows XP bug and it could be made running by tweaking windows settings, boot options and drivers. Since it is NT-based the error-causing modules should be found easyer than on Windows98, I was only very luck to find mstask.exe ;-) But may be Windows7 is better to go than XP, no Joke, someone tested?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oZed:
Can anyone please tell me how to turn my win98 disk into an image for my hd2?

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
I use Winimage. It's running unregistered like Winrar. Just insert your CD and click on Disk / create CDrom ISO image... You can load it direct in qemu and boot it... You can also open HDD images and insert or delete files with Winimage. To create hdd images I use bochs's image creation tool, but you will have to create partitions snd format them inside the image.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Poser 6 is running! This is very advanced 3d software.

Also mechwarrior 3 !!! And Deep Exploration 3D V2.

This is all exerimental but running useable and very stable! Remember this is just a phone. And it is emulating a nice Pentium II about 300 mhz, so may be next gen phones with dual core 2,5 ghz could emulate a machine about 1,5 Ghz! This is about todays Netbooks! And may be there will be a way to emulate 3D Hardware to use software that requires it. There is an experimental dosbox voodoo 3dfx version. So may be one day this Virtual GPU is finished and may be it could be ported to qemu or other virtual machines. So you would be able to use full 3Dfx effects and software. I am still missing 3Dfx on real Hardware, my Voodoo2 was so great!

I was able to boot win95 on dosbox on win98 on qemu on Wimo on HD2 :D

This takes about days and I closed the dosbox next morning but it was still booting. Not useable but possible to emulate more advanced hardware via Dosbox. Dosbox is worst case slow emulation compared with qemu. It would be so nice to get a qemu VGA-Bios with 3D hardware emulation one day!

But I am still trying to get 3D Studio Max running. The Problem is the missing 3D Hardware. Is there any way to emulate 3D rendering on Windows 98?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oZed:
Right i got the emulation working on qemu for PC, but i can't figure out how to boot the hd image in WM, can anyone tell me what to put in the cmdline and all the other .txt files to get it to boot thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
for android or windows mobile?

for wimo you need the qemu dir on sd-card.

inside the cmdline.txt shows qemu the directory with the images:

-emul

\Speicherkarte\sdl\

Create a sdl directory on sd-card. Place you c.img image inside, so android qemu ill boot it too. Edit emul_cmdline.txt like this:

-hda

c.img

-hdb

d.img

-m

128

-soundhw

all

-k

de

-tb-size

8

This will mount c.img as C-Drive and d.img as D-Drive, create a machine with 128 mb ram and boot from c. This will not work if there is no d.img, if you dont use it remove it. If it dont boot lock into error file in qemu dir, it tells the reason for aborting. You can also use hdc, hdd, cdrom and floppy and boot from any letter including cdrom. Maybe you would like to boot and test Ubuntu 10.10 netbook cdrom...

if all is ready just start qemu.exe

Dont know how to use the manager.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
More great news:

Sound is running smooth now!

Touch screen drivers are workin so I can direct touch in Windows and dont have to move pointer.

Now i try to get internet working.

There is a CPU Problem. Some applications crashes because a zero division.

Those are running fine on desktop qemu. May be it is easy to cange CPU Module to handle this. But so so much software is running fine.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nmambre:
@aSiD1712

What modifications did you do to get touch screen working?

Is it possible for you to upload one of your img's with your modifications?

If you get internet working it would sure be useful for some legacy applications running on the HD2.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
I am sucssefully installed win xp on hd2 and toshiba tg01.

If someone need instructions send me pm.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drjawad:
congrats trucky .can u plz send me instructions
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
to get touchscreen working insert this line in emul comandline:

-usbdevice

tablet

win98 automatic finds right drivers. Enlarging Icons and Bars helps to get a touch frindly UI. Also try point n click. And use Application key on toolbar to get right mouse menue.

for smooth sound write:

-soundhw

es1370

use attached drivers and disable audio acceleration!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
I will upload all files on rapidshare maybe tomorow. Sorry my internet connection is so poor.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nmambre:
@aSiD1712

Are those options for both Win95 and Win98?

I already have a Win95 image, so I'll download Winimage to copy some files to the Win95 image to test.

I have a Win98 instalation disk too, so to create a Win98 image would creating a image of the instalation disk, a "hard drive" with Bochs, and then install Win98 to the clean disk, right?

@Trucky: do you have network using WinXP?

and is the emulation "usable"? what about performance?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
don´t know if touchscreen is possible on win95, i have seen on a qemu support side windows 98 is first system with touchscreen support but may be you could get drivers installed and running. The way to create a win98 image is right but disable or delete mstask before bootiing on fone or it will hang on boot. may be read my previous post about mstask.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
I am not shure for network. Now, network doesn't work but I want to try something. I am at work all day but I am tomorow free.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soneracar:
We would like a demo video please :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
please tell us how you get it running. In qemu? What mods on qemu and xp? I think rapidshare links to a winxp image with used serial will not be accepted but if you tell us how we can try it ourself and share news. Would be realy great to run xp on phone.

I tried to boot reactos but it did not load the shell. Will do more tests. May be someone could look into the cpu liumitations again. Reactos is very beta but has very nice features like gl-grabber, arm-source and more usefull things to make apps running.

OSzoo is a nice site to explore more Operating Systems to test with qemu.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
That works in QEMU.

1. You need QEMU Manager for PC

2. Lite version of WINXP (about 170mb) www.google.com

3. Create new virtual mashine with QEMU Manager,

1300mb partition with RAW extension (IDE), 128mb or 64mb not less of RAM,

4. Install WINXP like usual (pay atention where is your virtual partition on PC)

5. Copy that virtual partition with allredy instaled XP on Storage Card

6. Setup cmdline on QEMU on your phone and run ;)

SORRY FOR UPLOAD,

because is my internet connection is d**n slow... (estimated time: 2d 13h 42min)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soneracar:
Help

I can't seem to get this right. I downloaded QEMU and xp lite ver 3.0 sp3 but I just can't build an image. Also, you say to have Qemu on the phone as well, where do I get that from. Could someone possibly make an image for me and send me a pm with the link to the image. And then maybe add where to go from there.

Thanks in advance!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nmambre:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvywfeDiTio

check for the links in the comments

QEMU for WinMo is there, and a Win95 image to start testing (use the alternate link).

I haven't created a image from scratch yet, but using Bochs could do it...

Haven't tested this, but I'm using an Android Froyo build on my phone, and it has a 1Gb img for starters. Maybe that img can be used.

(http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=732380)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
not working, long live the bsod
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nmambre:
Also found this thread with QEMU for Android with Win98 images.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=694105

I guess you can use the same images for QEMU on WinMo

I'll be downloading those to see if I can boot the same image in both WinMo and Android.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nudi:
cmdline.txt

Please,

give a example of your cmdline.txt.

I edit it but qemu don't run.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nmambre:
It depends on the language of your phone

the original is this:

-tb-size

8

-emul

\Storage Card\QEMU\emul\Win95osr2

Mine is

-tb-size

8

-emul

\Tarjeta de Almacenamiento\QEMU\emul\Win95osr2

You have to check how the name of Storage Card is in your language

If you change the location of the image files, you have to change that too in here.

-tb-size

8

-emul

\Storage Card\folder_where_the_image_is
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
erikvario you are on right way but your partition is now damaged. please copy your partition again on storage card and check your cmdline.txt file.

there must be next commands:

-L

.

-m

128

-hda

\Storage Card\winxp.raw

-boot

c

-std-vga

-tb-size

8

and run qemu.exe

good luck
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
tried but still got the bsod.

now it doesn't work at all:(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidis57:
Why would you want to put any OS on a android phone thats not android? Makes no sense to me. Next thing you would want iphone OS. If you wanted a diff OS than purchase a phone that runs it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soneracar:
That has to be the dumbest comment ever. No phone runs windows OS. Being able to run a full blown os on a phone opens so many possibilities. second, it is a windows mobile phone and we put android on it. Guess we should have bought an android phone even though this runs better than actual android device in so many ways. Why are you even on xda?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
My image with QEMU is uploaded. PM me for link.

I have DSL (Damn Small Linux) image too, if someone need that ...

I can make any OS image.

I forgot something...

I have smallest version of xp (USB variant) too.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drjawad:
Trucky thanks u r great
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baybenbey:
Can someone make a step by step guide to instal XP on hd2 for noobs? And it would also be great if all the necessary files are linked or attached. I realy want to play heroes III on HD2.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drjawad:
baybenbay just pm trucky he wil send u the link
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidis57:
Be careful how you reply to peole. I was not talking about full blown OS that is installed on a pc. Software makes a phone work. My point was if a person wanted iphone software dont buy android phone. Same goes for windows mobile you would not buy android. I may not have used the right terminology but I know what I was trying to say.

If your trying to see if it can be done if it isn't broke don't fix it. I am new to android but I am not dumb. I built and repaired PC's most of my 60 years. I did not appreciate your comment. Next time season your comments with a little tact and grace.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baybenbey:
Actually even if i get the links i am not sure that i can work with them.

I believe a lot of noobs will be very happy if someone can make a step by step tutorial.

Please, someone?