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[HD2 General] Le3:
This is true. I can almost guarantee you won't be satisfied with any phone as long as they keep churning out new technology and phones. It's like waiting for an iPhone to lower in price and then they release a new model every year.

But seriously if I were you np231, I don't see why you wouldn't be getting the Tmobile version.

If you don't plan on getting a data plan and only use wifi, what is the different if you pick up the tmobile one? Euro one is just gonna cost you more for the same thing if you plan on using wifi only.

I think the only downside to getting a tmobile version is getting it unlocked. You might have to wait, you might not. But usually t-mobile provides unlock codes after the phone has been released for a while.

As for me, I am going to get the HD2 from Tmobile in hopes that my tzones will work on its edge + 3g.
[HD2 General] np231:
Hey when I said to wait, I meant until the T-mobile version comes out, I will for sure buy the T-mobile version if its cheaper, because I can use it with WindMobile for 3G in canada If I have to. What I was trying to say was that the if the T-mobile version comes out and it sells for $450 then the Europe version might get price reduction as well... I guess we'll have to wait as see.. I'll probably buy the T-mobile version even if it is locked...

man I can't even wait 2 weeks, I hope T-mobile releases HD2 soon... I'll most probably order in within next month...
[HD2 General] Le3:
To be honest, I really doubt that the euro version will reduce less than the t-mobile selling price.

One reason is that it's imported and they have no reason to. Tmobile's is branded. You can see how HTC's flagship phones rarely decrease a lot in price. So I doubt the euro version would drop lower in price than the t-mobile one.
[HD2 General] chaoscentral:
Just an fyi going by previous T-Mobile US 3G phones, it will probably support the 900/2100 Euro/asia frequencies as well. Just about every T-Mobile 3G phone does 900/1700/2100
[HD2 General] np231:
the T-mobile HD2 version will support WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz. No 900. But anyways 2100 is there for other countries.

check this out if you haven't already: http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-hd2#tech-specs (1GB ROM doubled for sure, 576MB RAM)

Regarding my previous posts about the T-mobile vs. Euro version pricing.

For Canada: Euro version is $680CAD (including tax+shipping)

T-mobile price is $450US, and you have to stick with T-mobile and their plans but no contract (don't know for sure, now this is US so If I were to buy this T-mobile version for use in Canada then I would have to buy unlocked version + shipping + customs tax for importing it to Canada + US to $CAD conversion rate) After doing all this if the pricing of this device is around $680CAD then I will for sure buy this as this gives me the option to have 3G in canada whenever I want, Euro version doesn't.

I really hope that for Canadians the pricing for the T-mobile version is reasonable after all things I mentioned above. Usually like in the case of nexus one you can buy one for about $700CAD (In US it costs around $580 including tax+shipping) so us Canadians always pay more, this is the reason I was confused because it may be that $450US t-mobile price may convert to $650CAD, I don't mind this but I really hope that it won't be more than that.

I came very close to buying the T9193 Aus version, but I cannot spend $900CAD on that device for 3G. I still don't understand why so many people are buying this version and paying so much, I mean many of them complain about random switching from H>3G>Edge so what's the point in using At&t if there so many connection problems. Its okay if you don't face any connection issues but finding out my phone has connection issues after spending so much money is a gamble for me. I would rather buy the T-mobile version for WindMobile in canada atleast it is a newer version with updated hardware (1GB ROM) so hopefully it will have resolved some of the issues users have been reporting on this website.
[HD2 General] saintnickxiii:
No one is really paying attention to the fact that we really don't know what the first column means, the $449... that could be with some basic plan. Probably is.. i would imagine for the first couple months, you will not be able to get it unlocked. same thing happened with the iphone, it was tmo or nothin.

don't get your panties in a bunch just yet..

it's an un-confirmed partial screen shot.. anyone coulda made that in excel.

BTW, i thought it was codeaname Dark Handset???

ach, ja...
[HD2 General] Le3:
Well people are pretty sure it is the unsubsidized price since every other price on that column is the unsubsidized price for the other handsets.

And yes it could be completely false and just a made up spreadsheet but I guess we will find out when the 24th gets nearer.
[HD2 General] MirasHD2:
Patiently waiting...

I hope they release it before the 24th. I have read rumors about them releasing it between the 12-17th. No matter which day the release it, I am ready to get it. I already have a leather book style case for it, 2 HTC original screen protectors (even though they might not be needed, but for me it's better to be safe then sorry) and the K...? Deluxe cradle from E-bay, well it's from a friend that was using it with hers and she no longer owns the HD2 so she gave it to me. :D
[HD2 General] saintnickxiii:
Alright, so i did some reasearch...

the first column seems to be for Even More PLus Plan, now, that is not an anuall contract, but... here is what it says on TMO.com

"Even More Plus Plans offer you even more freedom, flexibility, and value. No annual contract. Dependable nationwide coverage. And the most affordable T-Mobile individual plans, including unlimited plans that start at just $49.99 per month.*

Want lower up-front costs with a 2-year agreement? Check out Even More plans, which feature great phone discounts and competitive monthly rates.

All Even More Plus Plans include:

* FREE nationwide T-Mobile to T-Mobile calling

* FREE Nights and Weekends

* FREE Overage Alerts for non-unlimited plans

* Whenever Minutes® you can use anytime

Even More Plus minutes are bundled with Unlimited Text and Unlimited Web Browsing as additional options. "

so, these prices could be accurate, as long as you go with thier plan, paying as little as 50 bucks a month, (and with this phone, you aint getting away with $50 a month, no no, not if you want to use your phone at the same time)

so, i'm not so pissed after all, I live in berlin and am in the process of purchasing an hd2, and in us dollars its costing me 600+ .. (but it comes with 16gb sd) ...... anyways... theres the infos i collected.
[HD2 General] *Omnipresent*:
For what its worth, i called several Tmobile stores yesterday. Two of the stores claimed they didnt know jack about the HD2. The other 2 confirmed both the $449.00 + tax out the door price and the $199.00 two year plan price. Those 2 store employees also stated that i would be emailed the subsidary unlocked code within 48h after the $449.00 + tax cash purchase. Take it with a grain of salt though. I'm planning on visiting at least 1 store in person, on my lunch break to verify this.
[HD2 General] mallman:
just wanted to add that i talked to the tmobile dealer today and he said he will have stock in on March 17th :)
[HD2 General] slavany:
TMo 3G vs. Att 3G

Do you guys know how is TMo 3g compared to Att (I live in NYC). I've always been only with Att (currently Fuze) but want HD2. I would need to pay ~$100 to terminate my contract but not sure if it worth switching to TMo just because the phone is great. Anyone has recently switched?
[HD2 General] MirasHD2:
I have a feeling that they will be available to the public on that day! :cool:
[HD2 General] aceo07:
It's showing up on T-Mobile website now. 'Coming Soon'

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-HD2
[HD2 General] MirasHD2:
Saw this on the tmo site for the HD2

†On approved credit. $112.50 down payment, plus 3 monthly payments of $112.50, required. 0% APR. Taxes & fees additional. Available only at T-Mobile-owned retail stores; see store for details.

††On approved credit. $22.50 down payment, plus 19 monthly payments of $22.50, required. 0% APR. Taxes & fees additional. Available only at T-Mobile-owned retail stores; see store for details.

:confused:
[HD2 General] aceo07:
I missed that earlier. hmm. I wonder if that indicates that the contract price is really $450 instead of the $200 that we were expecting.. :confused::confused:
[HD2 General] heygrl:
20 payments of 22.50 is full retail, there are no discounts when you pay for the phone over 20 months.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wherestheanykey:
Hi, I have the Sprint Touch Pro 2 and have a couple basic questions. Is this considered the Rhodium 400 or how do I determine? And I see that there are six main threads here regarding the "HTC Rhodium: Touch Pro2, Tilt 2" but only the last one mentions CDMA. So does that mean since mine is CDMA that all of the other five threads of fixes, cabs, themes and so on do not apply to me? Or if some of them do, how will I know if what is being discussed will apply to CDMA as well as GSM?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] InRBigness:
Most of the Cabs will work just fine depending on what they are supposed to do. The one think you have to be very careful of is the difference in ROMs. They are not interchangable but it is unlikely that you will be playing with them for a while at least.

The CDMA catagory is more for CDMA specific stuff. The other catagories will have stuff that will work for both GSM and CDMA with the usual caveat of depending what they are for.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
The RHOD400 is indeed the Sprint Touch Pro2, though you can always find this yourself by looking under the battery of your device, and searching for the string of text that says RHODXXX, where XXX is a number. The various subforums (with the exception of the ROM Development and CDMA Rhodium subforums) are pretty much model independent.

The biggest thing to watch out for is flashing GSM radios and OS ROMs on your CDMA device, as flashing those can and often will brick your device. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people with completely bricked Rhodiums because they flashed an incompatible radio ROM. If you want to flash a new OS ROM or radio ROM, absolutely make sure it's CDMA, as the GSM ones found here often won't say they're GSM. Since XDA-Developers is primarily GSM, a good place to look for CDMA Rhodium ROMs is PPCGeeks, here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wherestheanykey:
Ok guys thanks for the help. Thr ROM I am really hoping to try is Juicy's LEO WM 6.5 Sense 2.5 that looks pretty much eaxctly like the stock HD2 UI, including the animated weather on the home screen background. Is that available here set up to work on the Sprint Touch Pro 2, without a lot of fixing issues after the flash? I know there seems to be a MMS issue according to the thread I saw over at PPCGeeks. But I am hoping to find one here that loads and has the phone and data working without a lot of grief. And a cab available to fix the MMS that simply is proven to work for everyone. Any help would be much appreciated. I have already unlocked the phone and am very familiar with flashing ROMS. I did it extensivly on my previous Touch Vouge and Touch Pro Raphael. But only used the NFSFAN ROMs as they were always the shi_.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
juicy r10 is going to be kinda slow compared to some other roms, mainly because of sense 2.5. If you are stuck on using sense 2.5 juicy or energy leo roms are probably the best, but still are much less responsive than any sense 2.1 rom.

Honestly if you want a stable rom (no daily soft reset) I would suggest MightyRom or Energy Pheonix. Some people also like the Mr.X 2.1 ROM. Basically our processor is just slightly not good enough to keep up with 2.5 IMO.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wherestheanykey:
Ok thanks for the comments. Are either of the ones suggested available in a Sprint CDMA version that has the provisioning working right out of the gate. And do they have the Twitter tab in the sense UI?

Thanks,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] josemald:
Sense 2.1 (for GSM at least, maybe also for CDMA) has animated weather, but only for the default background. The attached cab allows for animated weather on any background. Should work on CDMA since it's not a Rom, but I can't assure anything.

All credits to the programer, I found this cab in a few weeks ago from a file sharing service, I thought I bookmarked the address but I didn't.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
Mightyrom does not have sprint provisioning out of the gate, you will have to do a quick/easy programming. Install the rom, do 1-2 hard resets (I do one from bootloader, one from the clear memory screen), on restart open your start menu, go to system and click carrier provisioning. Load sprint, it will soft reset and then you can program your phone.

I'm not sure about the energy rom, I think it does something very similar on the first boot.

Mightyrom comes with the weather animations, it doesn't have the quick launch icons on the today screen though. No twitter tab either.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wherestheanykey:
Thanks josemald for the cab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wherestheanykey:
Well I definately want the quick launch option on the home screen, that is one of the things I like best about the new sense. It kind of reminds me of the original touch flo home screen on the original Touch Vouge for Sprint. I guess I will give the energy rom a shot. Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
since you are CDMA, check out these forums to ensure you get the right ROM:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98&daysprune=30&order=desc&sort=replycount
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MagicSpeller:
My year-old Fuze broke and is scheduled to be replaced under an extended warranty. The company called me today to tell me that the Fuze isn't available and they are going to upgrade me to a Touch Pro2.

I have been out of the loop and did some quick research on the phone. It appears that the Touch Pro2 runs Windows Mobile 6.1 and does NOT support 3G, but that the Tilt 2 comes with 6.5 and (I assume) does support 3G. This doesn't sound like much of an upgrade to me!

Should I be concerned? Will the Touch Pro2 even work on the AT&T network? (Hopefully the rep was speaking generically and that she really was talking about the Tilt 2; I hope to find out for sure tomorrow.)

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] InRBigness:
If you are on ATT then insist on a Tilt2. It does have 3g for ATT. That being said it is a great upgrade from a FUze I would think. I went from a Kaiser to Tilt2 and would never go back.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] prjkthack:
If you were talking to a rep from AT&T, I don't think you'll have to worry. AT&T does not offer the Touch Pro2 to begin with, so I don't think they'll give you a phone that doesn't exist in their inventory. Their "Touch Pro2" is the "Tilt 2". The Tilt 2 will certainly work just fine on the AT&T network.

Sounds like the rep just knew that the Tilt 2 was also a Touch Pro2 and failed to use the AT&T name rather than the general name for the device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] InRBigness:
I think his phone is being replaced by a third party warranty company like Square Trade or somthing. I may be wrong but thats how I interpeted his post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MagicSpeller:
That's correct. Thanks for the replies. It does sound like I need to make sure it's a Tilt 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MagicSpeller:
Well, I talked to them yesterday and they said it is a Tilt 2 they're planning to send me.

So...here's my next dumb question. As I continue to read comparisons of the various versions, I'm beginning to think maybe it isn't a Tilt 2 I want after all. Again, they've emasculated the phone by removing the front camera and added that irritating PTT button. I noticed also that there is a downloadable Tilt 2 ROM with WM 6.5. Is it possible to install this ROM onto a GSM Touch Pro2 and make it work with AT&T 3G?

Thanks again for bearing with me....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
the camera on these phones is a little funky when taking a picture of yourself, otherwise its great. There are plenty of ROMs in the ROM development section of the rhodium forums. http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490 they should all work with at&t 3g.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] InRBigness:
You can use the rom but the Tilt2 has the only hardware built in that allows you to use the full ATT network. It is a hardware deficiancy that the TP2's have not a software one that keeps you from using a Verizon or European TP2.

The PTT button is nice to have though as I have mapped it to the camera. As for the front camera, I never used in on my Kaiser so I dont miss it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Svein10:
Not able to get 3G from At&T on Touch Pro2 - any workaround?

As I understand from this tread, it's not possible to get my norwegian Touch Pro2 witch I brought with me when I moved to US, to work with my supplier AT&T 3G network?

I have tried several different ROM's even stock shipped AT&T, but no luck only Edge goes... When I set it manually to HSDPA it will not find the network..... :(

So it has to be a Tilt 2, or is it anyone who knows a workaround for the Touch Pro2?

My old norwegian Kaiser has no problem with the same sim card. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mrschwarz:
Your phone may be locked to your Norwegian carrier. When my wife went to Europe, we had to unlock her phone to use it with a sim card there.

Contact your old carrier and see if the phone is locked.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] joseph881:
His phone isn't locked is just that for some reason, Rhodium doesn't have universal 3g support like Kaiser did. The only way to get Rhodium to work with 3G is to get one that is made for your specific carrier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Svein10:
Thanks. It's a unlocked phone.. I think that the Euopean version don't have the proper band. That's the differense between the Tilt 2 and Touch Pro2... :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Svein10:
Thank's. Yeah, that's seems to be the case... :mad: My Kaiser has been my best friend always... ;) Don't know if T-mobile could be used, they use another band?
[Nexus One General] GodDriven:
Okay, Thanks to Gnove, Cortez, and Myself GD, We have concluded that the workaround for GV IS HERE!!!! Now, Some may have known this, But, MOST didn't.. The funny part is that is has been sitting RIGHT in OUR FACE!!!!

Creds of course to Cortez and Ove for this.. First suggestion was to change the UAString to IPHONE to Emulate the Device which allowed access to a Dialer right from the Browser... Indeed it was Intriguing. it worked and amazed the hell out of me.. (on My end At least) What it does is prepare the call and place the calling number in your dialer.. Acutal Dialer.. From there you Dial out and it's like dialing from the app... Honestly I think these both methods are both better than the app.. Each has more and more benefits.. Now, I reverted back to Android... To See if I Refreshed and Landed back on the GV web page which is just Like the APP, and sorted to find a contact, (wifey), pressed call, it calls me (You) with the identification of my GV Number and once You answer it now starts calling the Initial person you wanted to call..

Now, Since i have been trying to find a fix for this for ages, since A1, she freaking stood up and jumped on me kissed me.. Wow, what i get for being an Idiot and not checking there first... Lol..

So YEAH.. no more calling your GV number hoping to remember the number you have to dial.. Finally, an end to this GV MADNESS until it is fixed within the ROM itself..

Add: If you also go to your settings in GV you can also indicate it to show your GV Number when someone calls you to that number VS seeing the same screen as if a carrier call came through with the contacts name. Which you all know that it will announce the callers name to which you choose to answer or deny to V-Mail in where at anytime you can jump in as they are leaving the message.. Freakin Sweet.. :D

Thanks to Paul22000, He added that you could also call from WWW.Google.Com/Voice right from the Computer and it will do the same as discussed before.. Thanks Paul.. Another One that Slips away....

Is it me.. Or are Google's Products So Advanced In sense.. That now instead of just owning a calling device. We have an extension of OUR LIVES living within the ANDROID WORLD > > > Really, Remember When you broke your Android Cherry!!!?

Now, for all who couldn't be on Desire, head right on back, GV is Back!!! ;)

Please Scroll To Post #-7 to see the Upcoming Keyboard for the Android Platform...
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Hehe, you could always do this ;)

Just going to copy my picture from a previous thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5428757&highlight=google+voice#post5428757
[Nexus One General] GodDriven:
Yeah..

Yeah.. Thats what I am showing them.. Thanks for leaving your link.. I can't believe i didn't think of this.. I swear.. I was mind boggled when I discovered this with the other Guys... See I don't know if you know but the Desire has some Locale issues.. It being a European ROM and all from Modaco.. Sooo... Yeah.. that left us with missing market apps, GV all tweaked out.. and aside a Camera MP 3>5 atm w/no flash and blue tooth really buggy.. So a lot is being fixed on a day to day basis but not GV cause it's not available in the UK, so it had be done by us, whoever could help or do.. So Kudos and so MUCH thanks for the reminder and the LINK for others to see.

Please click the poll.. If It did work for you.. Even if not on Desire.. Thats the idea for everyone to do.. :D
[Nexus One General] PISSANDVINEGAR:
Paul,

That red circle-work you've used is so god damned neat! I love it. You are a really stylish guy. Keep it up.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Yup, that's how I had to do it from the G1 with the Hero ROM... anyway, someone call me when GV works on a Desire ROM the same way it does on the stock ROM...that'll be news.
[Nexus One General] GodDriven:
This you are correct.. Paul just came back today... 3/2 and announced the camera is fixed... flash Nd 5mp done... missing apps done... brightness and keypad issue should be done too.. all that is left is a good solid bt connection.... after that, we could wait however long PAul needs to take to fix this matter.. all that matters is everyone who didn't know how.. can now read and see. Step to get it going.. not just be without GV.
[Nexus One General] GodDriven:
Swift Key...!

Hello Everyone.. In conjunction with the Matter of GV, I wanted to say That I was selected out of 600 to be a Tester For a new Keyboard being made for the Android Platform called Swift Key.. Go and Research, you WILL NOT be able to get the application (HopeFully) but will be able to read up on it.. It is going to replace the Android Keyboard that is Built with the Android OS from Factory, and I can tell you, Have you ever had a Keyboard Finish a complete sentence for you. Think For you.. Punctuate for you, even exclamation points and Question mark based on the Emotional vibe your sentence carries.. I will make a video Of this And any Alpha that is out at that Time.. I promise.. You will all love this.. Well in the future you won't have a choice, it will be built in!!!

Click on the Link From Dr. Medlock's Sig To see More... :D

Alpha group with this message:

Dear Android user,

Many thanks for agreeing to help us get SwiftKey ready for launch! We are

gathering a select group of Alpha testers and will contact you soon with

further information...

Best Regards,

Ben

--

Dr Ben Medlock

Founder, CTO

TouchType

www.swiftkey.net

www.touchtype-online.com