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[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
ok thanks everyone especially dudebro & Konqeror for being honest! But even if it is only mild, how can you tolerate it for such an expensive device? How can you tolerate it when you know other people have devices that would display that image the way it is supposed to be?

And are you sure it is only that wallpaper? For me there is banding that is shown fairly often on other images, like the mars pictures in this thread, some static wallpapers it is there slightly, and of course on some images in the browser, also apps i.e. Cherry Rplayer there is major banding in the interface.

I am livid. Just got off the phone with HTC. Setting up another repair. Was told this time the display issues with the att&t version have been totally fixed and I will get back what I should have gotten from day 1.

I do love this phone but the whole experience has been ridiculous!
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
More screen shots
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
Another screen shot

All this time I thought this is just the way the screen is...but now I'm starting to think it was defective all along
[Nexus One General] aiso:
Kang-o-rama 09b2 sp1 full froyo

Try upgrading your ROM to KANG-O-RAMA 09B2 SP1 FROYO.

I've read the thread and tried the links at displaymate.

They all look fantastic in my Nexus One browser (Google) and in astro image viewer, but really look bad in gallery.

Here's the post : 6781913

Hope that helps.

Alex
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
I get it very briefly during the transitions on the preview screen, but when it settles on night or day I get no banding at all.

I noticed that your screenshots are of the preview screen (not when it is installed). When I preview it the transition from day to night goes by so fast that I can barely see it, but if I stare then I see the banding, but only during the transition which is animating pretty fast under preview.

It is now 8:18 PM, which happens to be twilight, so I installed it as the actual screen saver and it is in a transitional state that is similar to one of your screen shots. When it is actually displaying this state for the real wallpaper I see minimal banding. But, in the preview mode when this kind of screen is whipping by at high speed then I see a *lot* of banding.

So, if you are doing a screen snapshot of the transition as it flies by in the preview perhaps that explains the heavy banding. Try installing the wallpaper and watching it during dawn/dusk and seeing if the banding happens then (hopefully it will be very minor like my screen right now)...
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
@flarbear

No it looks just as bad when actually applied - day, night and the transition.

Look at the screen shot the top is all blotchy and washed out, the bottom the banding looks like rolls of wet paint dripping down a wall. It kind of ruins the whole effect of the wallpaper.
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
Is this a software problem then or a hardware problem?

If I do upgrade (I'm currently using CM 5.0.8), would the grass live wallpaper look right? Would the banding & saturation issues still show up in other areas like some apps i.e. cherry Rplayer?

The guy at HTC seemed to think I have a defective screen and should get it replaced...
[Nexus One General] erikiksaz:
Then what are you waiting for?
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
@flarbear

A beautiful blue sky... With a strange milky white film on top...again kind of ruins the effect...
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
Another example. Phone interface which I forgot about. Where the number would display, banding.Bands of green, red, washed out grey...
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
@erikikaz

Yes guess I'll be going through the repair process again. The guy at HTC was very sympathetic and told me to call back any time after 7am to speak with a supervisor to see about a replacement being sent out because of my situation.

So I just called and was told actually supervisors don't get in until after 10am...

*sigh*
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Okay, so if it's a hardware screen issue, how are you getting these "screenshots"? I'd think a screenshot would be completely independent of the screen hardware itself, ie: say the screen is broken, a screenshot would of course be fine.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
i just tried it too and i literally have zero banding, its clear and sharp as ever.
[Nexus One General] bigmout:
My grass live wallpaper has NO banding, but A Online Radio DOES have banding.
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
Well it's very confusing I don't know what to do. When I look at the screenshots from my computer yes the banding is barely noticeable if not still slightly there...

But then if there are posts like RogerPodacter's - who say there is zero banding with a clear, sharp image then surely I do have a defective screen right?

Anyway the repair process has been set up. I wish they would just send me out a new device but they refused because I live in Canada even though I complained to a supervisor.

I spent a lot of money on this phone, I sold my iPhones, I was told initially by HTC to wait for a software update even though it was a hardware problem, I already sent it in once for a repair. Based on all this they should send me out a new phone. But I guess I should be thankful they are going to look at it again...
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
Another example, very bad banding in the graph area...

The screen is beautiful but it does get annoying to see this problem in so many images... Must be a defective screen??
[Nexus One General] DarkDvr:
Tried to see those images myself on my N1.

They look NOTHING like what they're showing. They look awesome without the gradient stepping.

The test is bullsh*t.
[Nexus One General] dudebro:
I have the same banding in the graph area. don't remember seeing this on my phone before I got a replacement.

looks like I'm gonna have to lean towards getting a repair as well...
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
I feel for ya bro...

I've put up with it for months but it's starting to piss me off. Especially knowing that apparently other people see crisp, dark, beautiful images when I see over-saturated smudging and banding.

I mean how long can one ignore it? Why did the folks at HTC not see this during testing and fix it? If everyone had the problem and they released a software update quickly that would be one thing...

What pisses me off is there is no gaurantee that even after the repair it will come back right - it didnt for me the first time or for you apparently :confused:
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
That most recent screen shot you posted is what I was calling minor banding. You criticize it a lot and I agree that it isn't perfect, but the first couple of screenshots that you posted were downright horrible in comparison. I've never seen anything on my screen that matches what you posted with your first couple of screen shots, but I have seen the minor banding in what you posted in this recent screen shot.

This may be the 16-bit issue that displaymate originally discovered. It's not a limitation of the phone hardware as they incorrectly suggested in their review, but many of the apps that use OpenGL try to conserve display memory by storing their images in a 16-bit OpenGL texture. This live wallpaper may be doing that.
[Nexus One General] dudebro:
I got a repair because I had a faulty antenna. got it back and still faulty antenna.

got a replacement and noticed it was gone but now my screen display is sketchy.

might as well take advantage of warranty while I still have it.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
No no, I think you misunderstood my question. How are you capturing the "screen captures" of a hardware problem? They look like you're capturing them in software, either a screenshot app or some other method to do it on your PC or such.

The only way to represent banding on the screen itself would be a picture from a camera, and unless you're very good at it, I don't think your "screenshots" are from a camera. How are you capturing them?
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
i dont understand how these phones can be different. i'm literally looking closely and have zero banding, its not even a little. so then i started experimenting setting different pics from my gallery as wallpapers, and they all look literally perfect, no weird banding whatsoever. i just dont get it:confused:
[Nexus One General] heardamir:
still looks awesome

Okay, i viewed the Mars sunset picture on my N1, and did not see the same effects that have been stated in the article. The only time i have thought something looks a little odd in terms of image rendering & gradient banding, was the Calendar & Power Control widgets on the home screens. BUT, it's only in the the first second after sliding left or right, before it properly renders. Kind of difficult to explain.
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
@khaytsus: I'm using the 'ShootMe' app...

@flarbear:

I really appreciate your detailed information. But I'm still not sure what to do...

I get the impression you consider it mild banding. To me it is not mild. I definitely don't have to look closely or strain to see it. It's so obvious. Adjusting the brightness does not help.

I accepted that it was a new kind of display and most things displayed beautifully. But then I decided to try the grass live wallpaper. I like how it transitions from day to night but it just looked really obviously messed up. I searched online - though there is lots of info on the N1 screen banding, saturation issues etc, there is nothing about the horrible look of the grass live wallpaper. Only a few positive remarks about it. I think a blogger wrote how she loved her N1 grass live wallpaper and how it gradually changed to night. And people have indicated on this thread that there is no banding at all. So how can I not send it back for repair? I mean no one in their right mind would not notice or say it looked fine if they saw what I'm seeing!

Last night during sunset I took some more screen shots. It looks even worse on my screen. But like you say if a repair won't fix it what should I do? And what about the guy I spoke with from htc - he assured me a repair would result in my screen being the way it was supposed to be - that the display issues have been corrected...?
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
Screenshot
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
Again these don't look so bad when viewed on a computer monitor but you can see there is something there... imagine how bad it must look on my phone. It doesn't even look like a digital image it almost looks like a cartoon, drawing or painting...??
[Nexus One General] britoso:
I can 100% confirm that this is not a problem with the OS, but rather the compression added by the screenshot app.

Case in point: my screenshot via ddms.
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
Maybe you (or someone else who says they have a perfect, clear, zero banding image) could use the shootme app on the market (free), take a screen-shot of the grasslive wallpaper during sunset and post it.

Might be interesting to compare...?
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
OK, maybe there is a slight increase in the banding once the shot has been captured via the app... but it really looks honestly just as bad for me without taking screenshots...

Not sure what ddms is but if it is a better representation of what the screen actually looks like then yes your iimage looks much better then what I see
[Nexus One General] britoso:
These two look similar to you?
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
@britoso:

ok figured out what ddms is. I think my shot looks worse than yours.

But the sunset stage and night is when it is really bad... would be nice to compare those shots using ddms if it is a better method...

first shot yours, second shot mine

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(click on my image to make it larger and you can see mine is worse!)
[Nexus One General] bigmout:
OK, I spent the day yesterday scrutinizing my display, and noticed some serious weirdness.

* I do NOT have banding (i.e., concentric ripples) in the grass LIVE wallpaper, even at sunset.

* I DO have ghosting (i.e., horizontal lines) visible across the entire screen when using grass LIVE wallpaper at all times of day. It looks like the browser when you read text on a white background in portrait mode.

* Here's where things get really weird. I DO have banding (i.e., concentric ripples) using the REGULAR version of grass wallpaper (i.e., NOT live).

So, go figure, lol.
[Nexus One General] britoso:
Use another app to set the wallpaper. For example 'wallpaper set and save'
[Nexus One General] stuff:
I'll check my grass live wallpaper when the sun is setting here.

Almost positive I will have it, but I don't have my origional LED. I broke mine, and replace with an OEM part. (Same model number though). So Idk if it's older or newerly manufactured.
[Nexus One General] deanrparry:
Grabbing my Nexus One when its finishing charging to check! :eek:
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
What do y'all think? My shot looks bad in comparison right?
[Nexus One General] britoso:
Obviously; and the reason was posted above.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Meh, screenshots and the screen are totally different... This has turned into one big pile of nonsense...
[Nexus One General] bigmout:
I tried but can't get Wallpaper Set and Save to set wallpaper from anywhere but my SD Card. How do I get it to set the default wallpapers?
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
Huh? What is the reason?
[Nexus One General] Bryce2010:
not sure what 'screenshots & the screen are totally different' mean... My screenshots, especially the 'ddms' method shows how bad my screen looks some times.

What is nonsense is that Google/htc released this phone with so many issues and inconsistencies.

Look how long this thread is, it's not nonsense - these are real issues. It's hard when people are saying they see perfect images when that is not what I'm seeing! Why do they get to enjoy this wallpaper for example and I don't? Too bad for me right?:eek:
[Nexus One General] torseni5t:
Your'e right its not nonsense. I have a desire and a nexus, the desire screen is sweet, the best I have seen.

My N1 on the other hand is nowhere near as good, with similar issues to those mentioned here.

The two screens are so different I am convinced that they actually are. I have read that due to a shortage of amoled screens htc are fitting lcd units to the later N1's.

I just need to know how I can found out definatively what screen is fitted to mine.

I'll be well p1ssed off if an alternetive screen is the cause of my problems as I bought a phone from google that was advertised as having an amoled screen the same as my desire.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Very easy, wait for night time, get a solid black screen, turn the backlight all the way up, turn off the lights. LCD you'll see the bleed through and the backlight around the edge, AMOLED you'll see nothing.

And yes to the OP, comparing screenshots and calling it hardware problems is nonsense...
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
That's very weird cause the desire and Nexus use the exact same screen, down to the part number. It's literally the same Samsung 3.7 inch amoled pentile screen.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
Wow I'm testing the live grass wallpaper and during sunset I sure do see the banding. That's pretty lame. This is the first time the pentile sub pixel layout has actually effected me since all those articles first came out, I never could reproduce those results and just assumed the pentile was fine.

But this is pretty lame that Google would actually include a default wallpaper that shows the limitation of this technology. Even worse is that this technology has this characteristic in the first place.

At least you know your phone is not defective now.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
SenseHERO 1.6 is unfortunately discontinued...

ST1Cl<^^aN

T-Mobile G2 Touch

SenseHero Forums: http://www.htcdevscene.info/

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[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] knudsen81:
Nice but where is no htc clock????
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Xfight:
Really nice, but i have two questions :

- which kernel use ?

- benchmark like linpack ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
Appoligies uploading HtcClockWidgets now...

Kernel version: 2.6.27-mck-teknologist-1.92
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] knudsen81:
no problem, i must say it's a nice looking port
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
Why thankyou kind sir :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] burgess_boy:
Easily the best looking Rom

Flashed HTC Clock Widget and it does not show up in my HTC Widgets
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] EbiEre:
When do i have to flash the Flip clock zip?

Directly after flashing the sensehero zip?

Or do i need to boot first?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
I am reuploading SenseHero 1.4 due to problematic HtcClockWidget.apk, if you have downloaded the Rom already redownload from the link when provided in the first post and follow the instructions.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
Appoligies for the inconvenience, i have pulled an old HtcClockWidget.apk from a previous build to bring back flipping clock but initial startup requires rescent HtcClockWidget.apk that came with build. Once setup process is complete on first boot then reboot into Recovery Mode and flash Flipping-HtcClockWidget_signed.zip to your device.

I will update first post with step by step instructions once reuploaded.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
since you are using my flipclock you could aswell point people there...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
Many appoligies, first post updated with a link to your thread and credits given.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
thanks, and no worries.

i never managed to make it work when included in a complete rom, it complains about signatures then. strangely it works perfectly when flashed via update.zip after the first boot.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] JIeBKA:
You are genious!!!

Thanks a lot! This is the best ROM that I've seen! Great work! Thx!

You are №1 !
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] IVBlindfireVI:
Love the ROM. Only downside is that the 4 new HTC widgets are gone.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] gpompeus:
How to add the FlipClock to home screen!!

Great work on this ROM...

I'm loving the fact that its on MCR 3.2 5b which is by far the best for 1.5..

One question only... How do you add the FlipClock widget to the home screen.. its not showing on the add widget / HTC widget list..

I have already followed the instructions on installing the FlipClock update after the ROM installation...

Thanks in advance..

EDIT : ohhh i will try that now.... thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] MrPappy86:
First thx for this rom. :)

One little question.

In this rom compcache or Task Killer Adjustment tweak enabled?

Thx for the answer.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cbanbury:
Flawless ROM! Can't believe I almost didn't bother intstalling it! Love the combination of MCR with the SenseHero skin...& I've bin missing that clock animation since I got rid of my touch HD.

Thanks to everyone involved in this :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
This rom is taskkiller adjusted.

I am working on getting the new HTC widgets back so there will be a small update soon.

Thankyou everyone for your kind comments, it means a lot.

I have tested the instructions posted to bring back HTC flipping clock and it seems to be working fine, can anyone else confirm?

Thanks,

ST1Cl<^^aN
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Fre4k:
Awsom Rom dude ;) so nice!

Can you add german lang. plz?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
Update bumped CPU score from 158 to 165.8, expect futher speed improvements to come :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nysos:
I can confirm this works.

- adb pull /data/data/com.htc.android.htcime/shared_prefs/com.htc.android.htcime_preferences.xml .

- Change the string to <string name=”keyboard_language”>11<⁄string> (for dutch)

- adb push com.htc.android.htcime_preferences.xml /data/data/com.htc.android.htcime/shared_prefs/com.htc.android.htcime_preferences.xml

And I have a UI in English now, with Dutch keyboard library.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] folgui:
Hi!

ROM just installed and first impression is: stable, fast and beautiful.

Good work Stickman89 :)

Regards, folgui.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] thecastlefordkid:
Two issues from me following a days usage.

When plugging in the wired handsfree headset, it didn't registar and work until I rebooted with the headset plugged in.

The second is a cosmetic issue when composing an email in HTC Mail. The blue border around the message is very low resolution and doesn't display properly. It's very fuzzy and is the only thing I've seen that marks down the cosmetic look and feel of the ROM (not so much of an issue if you don't email much, I'm mailing every 5 to 10 mins though).

Other than the above, very pleased with the ROM. Great work.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Smallguy17:
This is now my new dayli ROM but theres one problem. On the lock screen when theres something like a new sms or the massge saying ""Drag down to unlock" theres a big ugly dark square that doesn't mach the see trough bar :(

I was wondering if you please could remove that square or somehow make it so you don't notice it like now ;)

Ps. I only think you can see it if you have a light background....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Fisgaz:
thank you!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
Thankyou for reporting your issues, I am working on them now.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] thanito:
Thats a nice improvement:)

Hope to see much more coming!

What about linpack?

Btw have you found ANY battery % widget that doesnt drain the battery?

Do u think u can enable jit in your rom?i read there's a big performance improvement,but is it buggy on the hero?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Villarous:
The fix_update_signed one?

Battery seems to be good now for some reason, listened to music for long now and it hasnt dropped 1% yet (from 100%).

Standard animations update: What does it change? Does it remove the bumping animation? Because that can be removed with spare parts.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
I cannot seem to replicate the issue regarding handsfree headset not registering when plugged in as it seems to be working fine for me.

Can anyone else confirm this issue, also does this occur when using normal headphones for you?

I am working on the incorrect mail frame resource as this was reported beforehand but thankyou for reporting.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] MrPappy86:
Updated benchmark

After i flashed fix_update_signed.zip.

Benchmark result.

All test run twice.

Linpack benchmark:

- 2,45 Mflops/s

Softweg benchmark:

- Graphic: 121

- CPU: 165

- Memory: 142

- Filesystem: 35

One little problem after i flash the update, two spareparts icons still in the menu.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
I have supplied an optional update.zip to replace the bouncing windows and transition effects to default standard hero animations for those who aren't keen on them, personally i love them and they cause no negative effects performance wise.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Stickman89:
How bizarre the update.zip specifically removes spareparts from data, basically the first rom release contained two spareparts apk's, one that was installed in the system/apps directory and the other which was installed in the data/apps directory, the update script removes spareparts from the data directory leaving only the one remaining. It worked fine for myself and others have reported working. The update did not require a wipe after flashing, there was only one report here with the same problem and they had successfully removed spareparts via the Market instead. Hmmm i will take another look at it.