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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ultracrix:
I'm know that is offtopic, so Im short, I hope this help a litte

just use total video converter, and MPEG4 simple codec, not the AVC, you can use AVC coding in multipass so you get 2Mbytes per minute of audio and video, but it's drain your battery, the mpeg4 simple is better, you can benchmark it, if you get more % with a certain codec besides the size of file, then you battery last more

I'm use mpeg4 400x240 23.98fps 650 Kbps for video 128kbps for audio, the quality is great, ~5.56 Mbytes per minute, and its take about 5% more the duration of the video to codec, ie: 42 minutes episode will codec in no more 50 minutes (source 624x352) in a celeron 2400MHz

the other option I use is multipass/2pass AVC in .MP4 container, taking near 2.5 hour to codec the same 42 minutes

my benchmark on omnia i900 winmo 6.1 with TCPMP:

mpeg4 = 460%

AVC = 120%

my battery aprreciate the mpeg4 ^^

but if you want to watch over wifi, AVC is better, buts need strong machine to realtime conding

also windows media enconder, version 10 or more probably has profiles for you, sitll needs strong pc

sorry but I haven't vlc, but I think you need to consider battery life too

anyway, 800x480 is a bigger resolution, I estimate 400kbps for video with AVC codec but 2 pass, its not possible multipass in realtime i belive, so I dont know if you wifi can transmit enought data, In my omnia I just can get 250kbytes/s download via wifi, you need to consider how much user will watch your stream, and your upload

the whole performance of TCPMP on my omnia is worst than coreplayer

coreplayer benchmark:

mpeg4 = 520%

AVC = 173%

so I preffer to expend 240mbytes per 42 minutes in mpeg4 than 140mbytes in AVC, with the battery fully charged I can watch 2-3 episodes of stargate and It's remain in 80%

returning on topic:

if I instal de addon when use TCPMP at moments its closed in middel of playback, subtitles doesn't work, no matter the format

without the addon subtitles appears to load, there is a subtitle menu but the subs never showed, no matter if use directdraw, xscale, gapi, gdi, etc
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcmm:
Hello,

I have heard that some people have had problems with SRS WOW HD, so that gives me some respect install this driver ... "In the case of doing an uninstall of the driver everything is normal as before installing it?.

If it is a shame that the video in TCPMP is no better ... Do you come to improve?.

A designer of a very good skin for TCPMP has done WVGA has informed me that next week will be conducted in VGA (Mort Player Skin), is good news.

Thank you very much for your response and comments, is a pleasure to hear.

Sincerely,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] frmariam:
Well it's not that video isn't that good on TCPMP... it's more video isn't that good on Qualcomm processors (ergo all new HTC devices)... Such poor video drivers. There was also never a OpenGL render implementation before TCPMP was officially abandoned afaik (and no current unofficial project to do it either).

And yes CorePlayer has better performance but for a player that was dumped by the developers in 2005 TCPMP still does a bang-up job! avc.plg source is closed so any new version would need to be developed from scratch. It takes a lot of knowledge, effort and time to optimize this sort components (not to mention devices to test stuff on) and Core decided to close the door. Still I find the gesture a huge lack of ethics (even more considering they never lived up to the promise of the substitute BetaPlayer open source project).

I believe that due to the kind of access the Windows Mobile OS (and maybe some Linux phones... not Android) gives to the hw resources it's the only mobile OS capable of ever having a good universal video player that isn't the one from OEM. Un fortunatelly the big OSS project like VLC or mplayer don't even seem to consider it (and I guess they'll do it even less with 7).

Sorry but I'm a diehard open source fan. Plus I have a philosophy of using only free software (well besides the OEM stuff that comes with my machine).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcmm:
Hello,

I wanted to ask various topics on this version of TCMP, if you please answer:

1 .- "ffmpeg.plg": I have installed the latest version (6.22.2010) from this website. I have a HTC Touch Pro (original HTC WM6.1 ROM). Is it enough to keep this plugin of the "cab" indicated, or should I change it to any of those coming in the "zip" extra "FFmpegPack.zip" and if so, which correspond to my HTP me?.

2 .- Do I need to install any additional plugin to the "cab" (22/06/2010), or already have everything with you?. If I had to get some additional plugin, where do I download?.

3 .- I installed the program in main memory of the device (always consume less battery power than if you use the MicroSD). What are the ideal data in "buffering" to work properly this program?.

4 .- How to save the program file custom settings I do?. Indicated by taking a backup copy if you ever have to restore a fresh installation and not having to make all the adjustments.

Thank you in advance for your kindness. Not if you understand me well, I am not fluent in Spanish and English (use the Google translator).

Sincerely,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Willuknight:
not sure if im reading your first question right, but take the ffmpeg file for your devices processor and replace the one in the TCMP program folder after you install it.

Having a few issues with the WM12 skin, I was hoping for some assistance, sorry if the answer is somewhere else in the thread, I had a quick look through, but it's 50+ pages.

I'm running WiMo 6.5 on a Rhodium with SPB Mobile Shell and Mobilesense.

1) http://willu.net/photo_galleries/2010/06_oldphone/tcmp01.png

buttons seem really small compared to what they should be in your screenshot.

2)http://willu.net/photo_galleries/2010/06_oldphone/tcmp02.png

same problem, but worse in landscape.

3) http://willu.net/photo_galleries/2010/06_oldphone/tcmp03.png

Video gets stuck in bottom part of screen

4) http://willu.net/photo_galleries/2010/06_oldphone/tcmp05.png

play button also gets stuck.

Any help appreciated!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcmm:
Hello,

I have a HTC Touch Pro (original HTC WM6.1 Pro ROM) ... Who among the "ffmpeg.plg" I put the package additions "zip"?. Sorry, but this should not put. If you know what I would be grateful if indicated.

Sincerely,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bimbam69:
The cab installer already provides you with ffmpeg.plg plugin, but if you want to gain some speed while playing some videos replace current ffmpeg.plg with the one that suits your processor.

The skin was made that way, you should ask for creator of that skin to make buttons bigger.

At first try to enable taskbar: Options->View->Taskbar, hiding taskbar while skin is loaded won't do any good(that's why you are seeing screenjunk on the bottom).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bimbam69:
I'd guess it would be ffmpeg.plg from armv6 folder.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcmm:
Hello,

Inside the pack is a folder "ARMv6" with a "ffmpeg.plg" of 1.172.480 bits that tells me the program at startup that does not support that I have installed TCPMP. Within the pack there is another folder packetffmpegs, and within another "ARMv6" with a "ffmpeg.plg" of 483.840 bits, that if I work with the program. I have tested with "ffmpeg.plg" that comes with the "cab" of the program and this second pack ... not find any difference in playback with 2 videos that I have, so I finally left the "ffmpeg.plg" (576.512 bits) that came with the "cab". Should I be differences of operation with these two different versions of "ffmpeg.plg?. Thank you.

Sincerely,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bimbam69:
jcmm, What video files you've tested? I Forgot to mention that ffmpeg.plg is used for playing flv video files. Plugins with bigger size refuzes to load on some Windows mobile versions and in order to make them work it is needed to modify registry, its described in Readme-ffmpegs.txt contained in FFmpegPack.zip
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcmm:
Hello,

I had tried a "mov", sorry, I did not know it was to "flv", so it did not show difference.

I have it now, a "flv" with CorePlayer plays. With the "ffmpeg.plg" of the "cab" is not recognized in TCPMP. With the tablet in the pack (which showed no problems either) ... not recognized this "flv" either. I put the other "ffmpeg.plg" which gave me incompatibility, and I made the change in the registry, made a soft-reset, and starts the TCPMP without error, but this video "flv" does not acknowledge with This another one version of the plugin ... the screen is in black.

Does this have some solution with TCPMP?. The "flv" does not work with any of the three plugin "ffmpeg.plg". Thanks.

He was also the question of the "SRS WOW HD" you told me that he used with TCPMP. I had read that sometimes give problems. I have seen that until there are 3 different versions of the program. I have not dared to install it for fear of damaging the overall sound of my HTC Touch Pro is the first version of the XDA website, the v1.21, and v1.51 ... What would that be correct?. What are the appropriate settings in the program?. Does it affect the sound change (in the case of work) for calls, alarms, etc ... or just music?. If you are having problems it is sufficient to uninstall the program and do a soft-reset, or is something changed or damaged?. Thank you.

Sincerely,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] frmariam:
Use the packed ffmpeg.plg from the zip. Get a simple flv1 file and use benchmark to determine which is the fastest version in you device.

flv videos aren't all he same... flv may contain different types of video/audio streams formats. Currently TCPMP does not support flv files with h264/avc video and aac audio.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcmm:
Hello frmariam,

Thank you very much for answering my message.

I used the 2 "ffmpeg.plg" of the pack, corresponding to the folders "ARMv6" (I think it is appropriate for my HTC Touch Pro processor), and also the "ffmpeg.plg" that came in the "cab" of TCPMP.

Not all the videos I downloaded from YouTube have allowed me to try these plugins (in the 3 versions). I've downloaded in the format "flv" (curiously low 2 me my download "flv" different but not what is the difference) and also in "MPG4".

With the "MPG4" I work well the 3 plugins with similar performance using the benchmark: 55.28%, 54.46% and 53.49% (which comes with the "cab"). In the reproduction does not show appreciable difference in quality.

With the "flv", despite having added to the registry key listed in the file that came with the pack, none of the two "ffmpeg.plg" recognizes the pack is more, sometimes it just goes to black screen but that takes me out of the program.

With the "ffmpeg.plg" that comes with the "cab" I recognized several "flv" without any problems (not everyone, but if several of which I downloaded from YouTube), but in the first version of the download, the second version does not recognize (both with a "flv"). In these cases the image and sound reproduction is correct in these "flv". All "MPG4" perfectly reproduces this version of the plugin that comes with the "cab."

As a result of these tests, I think the plugin that I'm leaving is the next in the "cab" because it best suits my HTC Touch Pro Although there are some "flv" which does not recognize (the least I've tested), generally going well. Those who do not play me at least not throw me out of the program, simply does not recognize.

I can finally leave the key in the registry added without harm me at all to my device?.

What do you think of this?. Thank you for your invaluable help, and the bimbam69 too. You are very kind at all.

Bimbam69 had asked the sound program he uses with TCPMP for playing the sound, did you know, and in this case, it is advisable not to give me problems on my HTC Touch Pro?.

I hope you can understand me, I'm Spanish and I use the Google translator.

Sincerely,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] castilhos:
Wepop source

Hi, just posting an info.

In the page of wepop they released a source of sorts, maybe this project can take some ideas from their rmvb plugin, that works quite well.

wepop 0.99 unstable

;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tbutler:
Another Suggestion

I am running an older version of TCPMP player with your plugins for one reason and one reason only - it allows me to run multiple instances of the player. This is important to me because there is no bookmarking in the app. So I would lose my place in an audiobook or podcast if I want to listen to music. Since I can run multiple instances, I can have one player hold my place in the audiobook while another plays my music. When I'm done, close the instance with my audiobook last to preserve my place.

Would it be possible to update the code for your player so that it allows multiple instances of the player to run at one time? I would love to have the features that you've developed (particularly the playing while suspended feature), but I don't want to give up my ability to "bookmark."

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] frmariam:
@jcmm

mpeg4 files are mpeg4 file... they are not flv :p The player doesn't use ffmpeg.plg to play them (it uses the mpeg4.plg) hence the benchmarks are very close.

Get yourself a working flv file like I decribed before (use a decent video player in your pc like VLC to make sure the file doesn't have avc/h264 streams).

Have you tried any version besides the armv6 (that one never worked in my device even though it should support it... I use the arm5te)? Try to benchmark the other packed versions in the zip file.

@castilhos

Nice find. I'm personally curious about the avc plugin.

@tbutler

Having multiple versions of TCPMP could be a mess (I'm not sure but I think that WVD and mVu would open a new instance of TCPMP everytime you stream a video). Would be better to have an actual bookmark function.

Anyway as a less memory hungry alternative why not take screenshots of TCPMP and use afterwards use the scrollbar to restore the position of the screenshot?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tbutler:
I often have 2 instances of TCPMP open at the same time. Sometimes I've had 3. (Of course, only one of them was playing at a time.) No issues. I don't object to a bookmark function, but I would think that it would be easier to just enable multiple instances to run at the same time. Believe me, it works fine. No mess at all.

Of course, I would welcome an actual bookmark function.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcmm:
Hello frmariam,

Yes, I know that the format "mpeg4" is not the same as the "flv", but the document that includes the pack indicates that, besides the "flv", this plugin also affected in other formats, including "mpeg4 "why the test is also considered the" mpeg4 "and this plugin (although I saw that there is a specific plugin for the" mpeg4 ").

Well, I unzipped the two folders "armv5te", and have tried all 3 versions of the plugin (the 2 folders "armv5te" and next in the "cab"). I tested with a video "flv" that ran the "ffmpeg.plg" of the "cab". Now it works also with the two plug-2 Folders "armv5te". The test result is: 105.14%, 106.17% and 101.08%. The differences are not large, and if the file sizes of the 3 plugin (not that change with size), but the image quality is identical in the three cases, so that I would stay with the "cab" , which is smaller and uses less memory to me almost equal performance and image quality. Is that correct?.

I tried to vary the size of buffering up to 3 MB or even 10 MB, but I see no difference in operation, and that the video of the test is large (about 10 MB in size). For sound I have risen from 64 KB to 512 KB to avoid any possible audio clip. The sound I'm doing well, and properly adjusting the EQ much as I like TCPMP works better than CorePlayer and PockerMusic.

I hope you'll comment a bit these results and the choice of the plugin above. Thank you.

Sincerely,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bimbam69:
jcmm,

Yes ffmpeg.plg supports other formats but when you try to play mpeg4 file TCPMP uses mpeg4.plg by default, because mpeg4.plg is faster, but when you try to play flv file TCPMP will use ffmpeg.plg, but

first check what type of flv file you have, read here for more info: link. If you have htc touch pro device then ffmpeg from armv6 should fit your processor. About SRS WOW HD, I haven't experienced any problems using that app, but my device is different than yours, you should read through forums to find what steps you need innorder to make it work on your device.

frmariam,

What device do you have? Omnia? Then it dosen't support armv6 only up to armv5te.

castilhos,

Unfortunately Wepop source does not contain rmvb sourcecode.

tbutler,

try to use your old player.exe with components provided in first post it should work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcmm:
Hello bimbam69,

For me it works strangely with the "armv5te" but it does not work with "ARMv6, despite including recommended amendments to registration.

Do not be taken further support the AVC/H.264 Video on TCPMP? ...

I finally left the "ffmpeg.plg" that comes in his "cab", since the differences in performance and quality with the plugin "armv5te" (2) are negligible. The the "ARMv6" did not work (none of the two). Did you quit also the modification made in the register without having problems with it, but the plugin has finally left its original "cab"?.

I've looked at the forum as of the "SRS WOW HD, but I'm very confused with everything I've seen ... 3 versions, people with problems with them ... do not know if uninstalling the "cab" (in case of problems) and a soft-reset I leave everything correctly (this worries me), and if the correction of sound with this program affects the entire device (alarm, telephone, etc. ...), Not only the TCPMP player.

If I could clarify all these issues are so grateful.

Sincerely,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Gunnme:
Hello. I have an HTC Jade that should use ARMv6, but it does the same: Black screen and exits. v5 works ok, and the file inside the cab, works ok too.

any other tip?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tbutler:
I installed the new cab and then copied in my old player. Can run multiple instances of the player, but the play while suspended feature doesn't seem to work. Oh well.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bimbam69:
tbutler,

Strange, the play while suspeded functionality is implemented into common.dll so use of different player.exe shouldn't affect it. Does play while suspended feature work when using my version? Also which version do you use to run multiple instances (i guess its 0.81)?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bimbam69:
Strange the ffmpeg pack was posted a while a go and recently started to hear that armv6 does'nt work. I will do a recompile of ffmpeg for armv6.

Edit: heres a fresh recompiled ffmpeg for armv6. I couldn't test it because my cpu doesnt support armv6
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcmm:
Hello bimbam69,

I also stated that "ARMv6" either did not work on my HTC Touch Pro, and the "ARMv5" if it works, although poor results compared to standard file that accompanies your "cab."

I wanted to also tell I've been doing tests with this TCPMP and CorePlayer ... CorePlayer actually manages to reproduce some versions of "flv" can not the TCPMP, but speed problems (is jerky at times), and in the case of "flv" operating in the TCPMP, CorePlayer in there any improvement of quality ... although in his day I bought CorePlayer (I have the latest version), so far I have uninstalled, then the subject of the video there is no difference I have it on my HTC compensate, and as for the sound ... TCPMP plays the better and higher quality. I tuned to maximize the equalizer for both programs, and give best answer always TCPMP ... and that I have not come to install additional software that tells me, not having known not going to give me problems on my HTC.

Sincerely,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGoodtunes:
Thanks for this. I tried it on my HTC Vogue, and found same results as with ARMv6 from FFmpegPack.zip, even though this fresh comp is slightly larger at 504,832 bytes versus original 483,840 bytes.

Specifically, MP3s play beautifully, which is all I really need/want. But the one FLV that had failed previously with original ffmpeg.plg from Pack, fails in same way with fresh ffmpeg: TCPMP starts, shows UI with file title, and then closes in 1 or 2 seconds without ever playing. This particular FLV used to play nicely in previous (non-skinable) TCPMP-0.72RC1-ARM-PPC-recomp-03.

Edit - Tried ffmpeg from CAB, and it works! Now can play FLV, still plays MP3. Guess I will dump ARMv6 and continue with CAB.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jcmm:
Hello bimbam69,

I tested on my HTC Touch Pro this new plugin ARMv6 ... When starting a flv video with him ... I pulled out of the program, as I did with the other two ARMv6 plugin pack. I only work with the original plugin "cab" and the 2 pack armv5te.

Sincerely,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tbutler:
Actually, my mistake. It does work. I didn't know how to test it. When I use my task manager to suspend the device, the TCPMP play stops. But when I push the power button, the device suspends but the play continues. So, it appears to work as designed. Thanks.

I'm using the same version of the player that is in your cab. Only it must be someone's custom build of the code since it allows for multiple instances.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Osprey00:
Willuknight or anyone,

I re-did the 480x800 and 480x640 versions of my WMP12 skin. First, I magnified the graphics so that they're bigger and easier to press. Second, I made the backgrounds 52 pixels taller, since it looks like, from your screenshots, that the backgrounds are not offset by the taskbar (which is 52 pixels tall), which is the opposite of what I assumed. Please let me know if this is better and if there are no bugs. If so, I'll update my original post with these versions. Thanks.

EDIT: I've updated my original post with the new zip. Please visit the following link to download it: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6071639&postcount=284
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dontomase:
I am unable to get mediaplayer skin to work on my htc hd mini I cant see the bar in the bottom.

Anyone else with the same problem or are there any other skins for hvga resolution to this excellent player?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lypthebest:
problems:

It doesn't work????

Everytime I want to play a movie, there is a green blur and than my htc hd2 freezes.

Did I do something wrong:confused::(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrGoodtunes:
Congratulations tbutler, for the innovative way you have dealt with your need for bookmarking. You inspired me to look further into my own need for quick adding of songs into TCPMP's playlist.

So frmariam, you found where the current playlist is stored? Is it in the registry? Do you think one could possibly add a file to the playlist from search result(s) of Total Commander?

When I try to use TCPMP to add file(s) to playlist, it takes several minutes, apparently because the Oldies folder on my Storage Card has over 10 GB. So I've been using Christian Ghisler's Total Commander/CE v2.52ß2, which opens the 10 gig folder quickly and gives search results even faster. Since I have MP3 files associated to TCPMP, they can be played almost immediately after being requested. But when several requests come in short time, I'd like to add them to playlist for playing after previous request(s) finish playing. Have been using Total Commander to move requested files from Oldies folder to a folder called nQue, and then use TCPMP to add nQue contents to playlist. This works, but it would be better if I could add them to playlist directly.

I am considering Total Commander's user defined button bar. It was easy to put a Core button for TCPMP on the bar. Maybe it could be used to enque file(s) selected in Total Commander into playlist of TCPMP if the correct parameter could be written?

Anybody know how to write such a parameter, any suggestions or ideas? TIA