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[Windows Phone 7 General] Master_H:
Like so many others, I will also wait and try WP7s. I cannot believe that it really will be that crap that it seems to be right now.

If nightmare comes true, I will stay with a HD2 WM6.5 for a very long time. :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] aceo07:
I haven't see anything new with WP7s that other smartphones can't do. (Also I'm not a fan of their new design and don't care about Flash or Xbox or Netflix or Zune.)

WP7s doesn't do anything new that I want. I don't really do social networking or xbox. I make phone calls, use the browser, read pdf/docs, listen to music, catch up on tv shows. That's all I really do on my phone.

I will most likely stay with WM unless there's a huge advantage that I haven't seen for switching to WP7s.

Yes, developers will tempted to move to WP7 but I don't need the latest apps. I just need the apps that do what I need, which is very little or already exist.

I also wonder how truly open the development environment will be for WP7. Will the developers be able to do all the cool stuff they've done before? Or will it be locked down too much? (Android could have been great if it was open enough so coreplayer could develop for it.)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Black Antitoon:
I will probably be switching to Android, but since I am sticking to my HD for at least one more year, maybe two, by then there might be WP7.1, or WP8, or another update whatsoever, which may change the situation. If I had to buy a new phone tomorrow, I would probably get something with Android.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ai6908:
I probably will jump to Andriod, cant play with WinMO, then no point in sticking around!:)
[Windows Phone 7 General] theredundant:
I'll stick to WinMo and check out WP7S before jumping ship, to Android.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cerealfreak:
?!?!?!?!? Who knows ?!?!?!?!!?

That poll was a little restrictive voting wise, as I still don't know what route I will take. So far there are still far too many rumours about WP7 and it's capabilities. I have the emulator and the new dump of the full ROM so I will be playing around with that to see what I think.

I can't upgrade until Summer 2011 anyway, although if the rumours about Copy and Paste,

USB Support

Multitasking

Easy customisation

3rd Party apps

are true then without these features, a flashy and intuitive new UI does not compare to the losses shown here. Why did I buy my WinMo phone in the first place?

Because it is in effect a portable computer, I can do most things I need to do without getting my laptop out, I can customise it with the apps I like, which are developed by a community and are easily loaded onto my phone by way of USB support and CABs. I have purchased a lot of expensive apps to do what I need to do and if I can't do it in the new WP7 series I won't be buying it..
[Windows Phone 7 General] scilor:
WM7 really sucks. Hate that step backwards from Multitasking etc... I used Windows Mobile due to its freedom. Therefore I hate the iPhone and therefore I will hate WM7...
[Windows Phone 7 General] SL:
I am unsure given the fact wimo 7 is crippled. I have started using andriod and I think that is the way to go.....

I like having programs that I like and fit my needs. I dont need M$ telling me what I can and cannot use.

M$ can have it all....the current concept and add on like iphone. But it looks like they are a copy cat.......and dont have new ideas of their own.
[Windows Phone 7 General] markgamber:
I bought WinMo phones for years and, in fact, I still have a Fuze and a Tilt. But I bought an iPhone a couple years ago and I really like it because, despite it's shortcomings, it's fast and it's stable. I was excited to see a new, relevant version of WinMo but it looks like Microsoft is intent on turning it into a "me too" OS with more or less the same built in shortcomings as the iPhone and it's effectively trashed most or all existing apps so why not just keep the iPhone or get a new one in June? There really isn't much the iPhone can't do anymore, I don't USE the Fuze or Tilt anymore and I don't miss either, and by the sounds of it, WM7 will have practically no support upon it's release. As a user I just don't see the point in bothering and as a developer I don't see any reason to start over again. So I seriously doubt I'll be bothering with WinMo any longer. Too bad. I really liked the platform, but it's too little way too late. Apple is working hard to keep users from hacking the iPhone system and I have no reason to doubt that Microsoft will do the same. That's not to say it won't be hackable but it will have reached the level of difficulty as to keep the number of hackers to a minimum. Look at all the people that screw up flashing their WinMo phones now. It's not going to get any easier so there will never be larger numbers than now.

After all this time and despite all of Apple's built in restrictions and stupid decisions, the iPhone is still "the sh*t". You know when WinMo or Android will be "the sh*t"? Never. They will never hold that status. Check ebay if you doubt it. I could STILL sell my nearly year old iPhone 3GS for a profit if I wanted to. Has any WinMo phone EVER resold for more than it's original value?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Justin241982:
F*ck winmo

Ive had it and I hope a few really good developers on her have had enough too so we have some awesome people messing with android and the possibilities will be endless.
[Windows Phone 7 General] witch1:
:mad: Microsoft sucks. No more, no less and NO MORE OF MY MONEY.
[Windows Phone 7 General] poriggity:
If my choices are only WinMo 7 Apple or Android, I will probably go Android next time around. If I can still get a WinMo 6.5 phone, I'll probably go WinMo, since I am happy with it currently.

Scott
[Windows Phone 7 General] fortunz:
I'm eager to see what becomes of WP Classic Series. I've heard rumors of it getting functionality stripped out as compared to present winmo, but who knows. What would be really nice is if it remained sufficiently in force that current winmo projects didn't die out since even though i'm planning to move to Android, I also plan to own my TP2 for a long time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
Devices with WM 6.5.3 are just about to be released. I'm sure there'll be plenty of new devices coming up from different manufacturers!

WM 6.5.3 runs so AWESOME on my Topaz (no crashes, stable, fast)and together with Sense 2.5 there's NOTHING I miss right now. There's LOTS OF things I'd be missing when switching to Android or iphone/whyphone 7 so I just keep it going!
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
I didn't miss anything after switching from WM to iPhone and personally found lots of things which I can only do with iPhone but not WM, so I'm curious as to what are these things that you think you can't do with a jailbroken iPhone. I'm sure there will be a list and it will be valid for your situation so I'm not discounting such a possibility although I found none in my own situation. However I also discovered that many people quoted stuffs which are real basic things which iPhone always was able to do but due to misinformation they thought these are issues.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
Like usual I only care about development related issues. WM is the the ONLY OS that allows full kernel access WITHOUT the need to do any "jailbreak" kind of things. only thing you need are privileged certificates (and this only for "critical" stuff) - and for private use you get them with sdkcerts.

With Android you might have quite similar customization possibilities like you got with WM, but still, your application is running in a java VM and no way to directly access/manipulate OS functionality. On iphone I doubt you can access anything "out of the box" neither...

Some people are happy to develop fart apps and fake fingerprint scanners or whatever. I prefer to develop system tools/enhancements.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
You're right if it is out of the box. I too couldn't live with some of the limitations if it s that. That's why I jailbroke. Many developers wanting to extend the OS functions are selling their tools through the Cydia market place bypassing Apple completely. They don't seem to be having any problem coming with some real useful and good stuffs. Examples: to make it multitask, to replace the home screen completely with their own, to toggle between active tasks, to do full Bluetooth file transfer, to be able to do VOIP over 3g overcoming the artificial ATT restriction forcing people to only use the gsm phone while on 3g, to jump directly to any part of the long web pages or any documents and screen, to make iPhone a wifi hotspot, to explore the iPhone file structure, to save email attachments, to download and save any files, musics, videos, and save them on the phone directly, themes, etc etc.

What are some of the tools you've developed by the way? Actually since you're interested in tools and enhancements I think the shortcomings of iPhone stock OS should be seen as an opportunity to make some money for yourselves. Research has shown iPhone users to be among the most willing to buy genuine software instead of just stealing it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
Well most of these things are already working with a WM stock ROM. Install few cabs for the things that don't come with the original phone and you're all set.

Actually I just started with WM last year so I didn't do sooo many stuff yet but you see my projects I did for XDA community in my signature. Before I bought my Topaz I used to have a NOKIA dumbass phone. But hey! I could even send MMS with it :rolleyes:

About money making possibilities. Thanks for the hint but I'm working 5 days a week for a job to earn money. Everything I develop in my sparetime is only for fun, self-education, proof of concept etc. I don't even ask for donations!
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
I know that many of the limitations in non-JB iPhone do not exist as limitation on WM phones. Although to be fair WM also has many limitations that don't exist in iPhone.

Just FYI even non-JB iPhone can do MMS already, and this is one examples of things which many people musundrstood to be a limitation if iPhone.

So I see that you're doing it as a hobby. Any reason why you can't shift your hobby to either iPhone or Android though?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
Well like I said before I'm completely satisfied with my phone like it is right now! I don't miss out on any functionality. What do you think I'd need that I couldn't get with WM?

I currently see no reason to switch phone that's the reason. Also I'm used to win32 api for more than 10 years and I just like the interface. And like mentioned before Windows Mobile 6.5.3 is just about to be launched officially so development for the platform will still go on for a while.
[Windows Phone 7 General] parnunu:
Everything bad on iphone MS bring it to Windows Phone 7.

So what is windows mobile better than iphone it not be in WP7 series.

If WP6 (WM6.5.3) stop develop i will move to Android.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rfarrah:
Gotta change the OS if they are not going to allow the customization we've been accumstomed to doing on WM.

And no install from SD? Bye Bye, WM - would have loved to keep ya.
[Windows Phone 7 General] scobie700:
Im getting an upgrade from orange in november, hopefully the obsession will be out by then, but im more exited by the phone than the os, I might swap it for a hd2...ha ha
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
oh yes I love the spec of TD3! Hoping it still runs 6.5.3 ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] spellshaper:
I really dont like all bad news coming with Windows 7 Phone. But its still my only hope for great OS for mobile devices.

If it fails I maybe end up with no OS at all on my phone or maybe some linux based OS from Samsung. Or if Apple makes some iPhone mini that wont be so ugly as older brothers, I maybe even end up with OSX.
[Windows Phone 7 General] SMS92:
I think perhaps a year or two down the line I'll be jumping on Android. I'd love for my HD2 to be top-of-the-line forever, but it was doomed to be non-future-proof from the start.

What I'd love is in a year or so, the choice between Android and WM6.5 on my HD2. Only the xda-devs are capable of this, and of course there's a big difference between 'making something boot' and making everything in the OS and hardware talk.

I really see Android as the future for us geeks though. I think it's a ship we're all heading towards.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
This could be my next phone. :D

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When HTC released the HD2, the hardware geeks drooled. To them, it was the best phone on the market, period: no other phone had a huge and crystal-clear 4.3-inch capacitive touchscreen, a crazy-thin body, 1GHz Snapdragon processor, and a whopping 448MB of RAM. That's hardware that'd embarrass a top-of-the-line desktop computer a decade ago. But it was flawed, held back by the oppressively awful Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.5, which very shortly after was mercilessly killed by its creator. The people cried out for an HD2 with a decent OS--and HTC answered them, and then some, with the Evo 4G.

To start with, the Evo 4G is the country's first WiMax/4G phone, which is reason enough to be excited. 4G can achieve speeds nearing that of a landline broadband connection--3G seems downright antiquated compared to the crazy speed of 4G. Of course, Sprint, who will carry the Evo 4G, hasn't managed to get their 4G network quite nationwide yet (New York City and San Francisco are both lacking, for example) but they're moving fast, announcing expansion into seven more cities today.

The Evo 4G meshes that 4G speed with the best-in-class hardware of the HD2--only better. In place of the HD2's 5MP camera, the Evo 4G upgrades to an 8MP shooter, plus a forward-facing 1.3MP camera (the same as in laptops) for video chatting over that superfast network. It upgrades the RAM to 512MB, and adds a focus on video with both a kickstand and an HDMI-out port for playing HD, 720p video on an HDTV.

Even better, it's capable of outputting that 4G signal as a Wi-Fi signal, like Sprint's Overdrive or Verizon's Mi-FI. Basically, it creates its own little mobile hotspot, and you can connect up to eight Wi-Fi-using devices to it, including (as Sprint was quick to point out) competitors like the iPhone and Droid. That feature will surely require a separate monthly fee, though Sprint hasn't named a specific price yet.

But the most important part, the part that separates the Evo 4G from the HD2, and what makes it an legitimately enviable handset: the Evo 4G runs HTC's lauded Sense UI overhaul over Google Android 2.1, just like the HTC Legend, but supercharged. Sense provides just about the best Android experience possible, polishing Android's dull edges, spicing up the interface, and providing alternative software like a superior music player.

This is the best Android phone yet, and a big step for Sprint, who needed exactly this kind of flashy, eye-catching, and damned impressive phone to show off their mostly-unused 4G network. It's not a revolution like Windows Phone Series 7, but simply one big step forward for Android--and Sprint as well.

The HTC Evo 4G will be available at an undetermined date this summer, and pricing has not yet been announced.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
CDMA/WiMax? No thanks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
Of course we should wait for an international version. I don't mind if the international has only 3G.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Yep. Just put Windows on it and I'm sold. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
LOL. You should stick with HD2. The supersonic is for those who want something better.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
No screw it! Now we all go buying an iPhone and jailbreak it and then we got the deal of the century! :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
Lol. Na. I think you better stick with something that you already know and keep developing tools that has no audience. :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] C:Sharp!:
The HTC Evo is THE phone. It's perfect. I'm so jealous cause I don't live in the US...

I doubt the next iPhone will even be remotely competitive and WP7S won't be competitive for at least another year from now, anyways.

The HTC Evo is "IT".
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
I'll wait for iPhone 4G to be released before drawing the final conclusion. But I must admit that supersonic is hell of a phone. I had been waiting for the right OS to go into HD2 for a long long time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Same here actually.

Android is definitely not something I want on my phone. I may be forced to use it in the end, but it won't be because I want it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ramdroid77:
lol yeah that's what I always do. some years ago I was doing music and it was way too noisy for most people and I ended up putting out records for like 5 people! if I ever jump to Android it's probably right before Google's downfall and something new did already rise!
[Windows Phone 7 General] freco:
For the time being I will change to another OS for sure. I don't like WM7 at all. And I have no hope that the final product will change my opinion.

iPhone 4 or HTC evo are good reasons to change. Time to move on.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fortunz:
At a minimum, I'm glad to see the 4.3" screen didn't die with WinMo. 3.6ish is a little small for me. It's one of the few things I'd want to improve on my TP2. There was a relentless push towards tiny for a while there that had me worried.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
Yep. 4.3 inch screen is extremely attractive. I still love my 5 inch Athena screen LOL but that's too slow and heavy for me now. The 8mp camera and 720 video sound real good on paper but I like to get a feel on whether it is as good in practice.

Does anyone have any issue with wimax? If so, why?
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I have no issue with WiMax as a standard, but I have issues with it when it replaces 3G in mobile devices, just because it isn't as widespread, and because I need to have an additional subscription to use it (cell operators don't offer it where I live, some ISPs do). CDMA is a much bigger problem though, I have no use for it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
Fair enough. Also, I think it's too early to get a 4g handset at this stage in most part of the world. May be a couple more years down the road. Not sure what's HTC's product plan is for Supersonic for the rest of the world, but in any case I hope they don't take forever to roll out. I can't even find any HTC Hero here yet the last time I checked with the TELCO shop. This makes it difficult to switch since I always like to at least play with the device for a few hours before I buy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Ah, but with regard to 4G, LTE won. WiMax won't be used by mobile networks as the 4G standard, apart from peculiar cases such as Sprint (or maybe Telstra? :))
[Touch HD General] telegraph0000:
fine...EVER....

How does one know which version (8282 or 8285) one has?

See? I told you....

Is the info found under settings/system/device accurate? Because it can be changed by user...
[Touch HD General] fwt:
As there are no dumb questions ...

look here:

http://www.expansys.com.au/ft.aspx?k=119334

and here:

http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/2866352/touch+hd+8285

hope this helps a bit

fwt
[Touch HD General] telegraph0000:
Thank you, but.the.links just provide a question/answer basis for the phone's connection to 3g. Question would be if there are any physical differences between the two phones, or is there some scrren that tells you what the phone.model is.
[Touch HD General] mightbme:
There is nothing on the 8285 that actually tells you. If you look under the system info it wil tell you 8282. Load up a program with gps and see if it works
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] galarga:
hi guys i have a problem with my htc wing, when i try do a call the signal disappear. i dont know what happen. maybe the radio rom is older please help. someone have the radio radio and how can i do to upgrade? thanks
[HD2 General] jackielo:
I have a localized version rom. With it, the battary icon on taskbar will become time within some application or when press home buttom. How can I fix it to just display battary icon?
[Hero CDMA General] scriz:
Just noticed this today after I flashed Fresh Rom 1.1..I get a notification that i have 3 new messages, open up the gmail app..it counts 3 unread emails, yet only 1 new email shows. I go to www.gmail.com, login..and sure enough there are 3 new emails.

Anyone else have this problem?
[Hero CDMA General] mendez_v:
I came across the same issue a couple of days ago. under the gmail app go to view all lables option and select the all mail tab. That will show emails that for some reason dont show up in the inbox tab...that seemed to have fixed the issue for me since it was annoying to have over 20 unread emails all the time althought i had read em all..
[Hero CDMA General] scriz:
Switched back to Gumbo 1.5C..it displays new emails properly, guess I'll be stayin with that!
[Hero CDMA General] Moe2005:
To fix that problem you go to Settings-> Applications -> Manage Applications -> Gmail Storage -> Clear Data. After that it should sync again and show the correct mail count. That usually happens when you flash or do a nandroid restore.
[Hero CDMA General] david_ag:
Confirmed, clearing the data will fix this issue.
[Wing, P4350 General] galarga:
hi guys i have a problem with my htc wing, when i try do a call the signal disappear. i dont know what happen. maybe the radio rom is older please help. someone have the radio radio and how can i do to upgrade? thanks
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] endless12:
1.) I changed new rom

2.)It freezes when i was using youtube panel

3.)I turned off and when i turn on again wont load

4.) I tried hard reset , taking out the battery and memory card still wont load

5.) couldn't connect to pc

anyone know how to fix ?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lethalfriend:
well i had the same issue few moments ago. but now i get rid of it by using a very easy method.

- While the phone is off -hold down the front left and right buttons on the X1 and insert your stylus into the soft reset hole all at the same time.

- After i did this i was presented with a blue screen that told me to press R to reset and delete all my existing stuff. Then i had to callibrate the stylus and the same stuff the day you got it.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] endless12:
:(

I tried that way too, after it said restart i pressed spacebar to restart and its still stuck at loading screen...
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poetryrocksalot:
you press R... not space
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harveydent:
R to hard reset, SPACE to restart.

If the phone has finished its hard reset (it's telling you to press SPACE) and you can't just remove the battery and turn the phone on. Maybe your keyboard is dirty and it's not reading the SPA.CEBAR presses

OT: hey poetry, where'd you been? did you sell your X1?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] endless12:
Sorry for my bad english , but it did restarted after pressing the spacebar but it still freezes for some reason and ive done like 5`6 hard reseting it ;/
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poetryrocksalot:
yes I sold my X1. I wanted to try out the Nokia E90, and my X1 was in such a bad shape that I had to sell it before it lost value.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mirelm:
i know this is old post, but i have that problem now, any solution.

i changed my rom 20x till now but now stack on XPERIA logo, soft reset hard reset not working, any help....
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mirelm:
solved. entered boot loader, three color screen, run task 29 utility 8-12 times, every time connected disconnected usb cable, removed inserted battery and then suddenly update progres was shown on phone. huh. flashing my X1 was easy till today. Good luck to all...