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[General Questions and Answers] wutske:
Yesterday I had to do a factory reset on my WM6.5 phone which forced me to reinstall all my applications. I had a few applications installed via marketplace, but I can't reinstall them because marketplace keeps telling me it can't connect (applications that I had not installed previously using marketplace can be installed without any problems).

So my question is, how can I remove applications from my purchased list ? I checked the marketplace website, but there is no such button and searching the web didn't offer the solution :( .
[General Questions and Answers] wutske:
I've just installed an update for marketplace, but I still can not install previously purchased (free) applications. It keeps giving me

I've already adjusted my time and changed the Aku value from .5.5.0 to .5.3.00. I've even tried installing an older (hacked) version but that didn't work either.

If tried it over edge, wifi and activesync, using different catalogs, nothing works :(

Btw, I'm now using Marketplace 1.2.1422.0000
[General Questions and Answers] wutske:
The problem fixed itself a few days ago.

Probably was something wrong at the Microsoft side of life :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mike-bravo:
has anybody managed to change the icons in the HTCbar with HDwalls ???

if so how because the normal way of doenst work for me on my HD2

thanks mitch
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cheapusenet:
i own a large amount of htc phones, but my mainphones have always been wizard/hermes sofar. I recently bought a universal, but it's too much phone for me. Too big/i live in a bad triband area. i hate to part with it but ehwell.

my question is, i bought a kaiser yesterday. theres android ports for it, whats the speed of them like?

preferbaly a comparinson to the droid eris, it's the only android phone i've played with.

any input would be apperciated, thanksguys!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Jlmus1:
Kaiser/Tilt

I have two of them running Android. One is Using the Polyrythmic version the other is the KaiserDroid. Both seem to operate well. I like polyrythmics and Im using it for a daily phone. The other Im still toying with. I suggest you read both threads and make sure you understand what youre doing before you do it.Dont fall into the traps that are well documented. Good luck
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] K_Uptain:
What I have noticed

I am using Polyrythmic 2.1b, and love it. I have gone though a few versions with them, in Haret and NAND. I have found that the NAND is faster if you are willing to take the full plunge. I only have one phone and feel fully confident in the release that it has been my daily release since the 2/23/10. A few things don’t work, but they were not biggie items to me. Read as much as you can before making the plunge.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Have to say, both the main eclair versions of android are very good, and there are a number of other flavours as well, myn's warm donut is getting good reviews also.

Recommendations? personally I divide my time between Polymod and Kaiserdroid, and have tried another few 'distros' as well.

The main questions to ask before using android are :

Do I need a working Camera?

Do I need working Bluetooth?

Do I need reliable GPS?

Have I read the Stickies in the ROM development section, and/or flashed HardSPL, upgraded my radio, unlocked security,cid and sim?

If any of the first 3 are 'Yes I MUST have these working' then android is not yet ready for you, there is still some work to be done in these areas.

If you answered the last with 'WTF is HardSPL and why do I need it?' then

you are not yet ready for Android ;)

If you know all this stuff already, then my main advice is this:

Run from Sd card, try a few different distros, get used to the installer, learn what panel type, keyboard and resolution suit your device best, and then it's time for the whole Nand experience :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cheapusenet:
im not going to run into any problems flashing it, i've got no worried about that.

but nobody answered, a) is it faster than wm6 and b) whats the performance hit compared to a native android device?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
a) Yes for almost everything I use it's faster than WM6. It has a much faster graphics driver, smoother animations and scrolling, MUCH faster screen rotation. Browsing is faster, messaging is faster, soft keyboard and touch events are MUCH better, SSH is much faster, browsing through photos is faster...

b) Depends on the build. Donut builds are basically as fast as a native device, Eclair builds are fast enough for daily use and getting faster all the time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Donut runs great and is the most stable, much better user experience than windows all around.

Eclair if you can tweak it to suit you then its a great OS. Probably runs about the same speed as a windows on the kaiser. Still a little glitchy and for the most part all are still in beta form

Tattoo or Hero would be great if speed wasn't an issue
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cheapusenet:
Alright i've recieved the kaiser, i've put kaiserdroid+droidion donut+polys version.

polys ran like hell, im unsure why. maybe ill try off nand, shame becasue its gsm was the only one that half worked.

they accept wifi-on, get an ip, but refuse to actually ping or visit a site. anyone have any input on this?

thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Michga:
i think most stable rom is here: [Android]The Android Thread [Site Update] on this rom dont work only bluetooth. else everythink other working fully. (exclude market.. it works but when i search ASTRO F. M. it show error something about bad network, but im connected with wifi) but i think its old rom whithout some new functions
[HD2 General] adrian_nene16:
okay guyz umm i dont own an hd2 yet but my friend does but i want one.. and he text a lot and when he goes to reply a text message the device takes like 25 seconds to load up..because it looks like it loads every text message he has with that contact and i was like.. what the hell? how can this happen? do you guys know why is doing this? is there any solution.. any new rom or xda rom that can fix this because i text a lot.. and i wouldn't be happy if my hd2 has this problem too..

any solutions please comment

thank you i hope you guys can help.
[HD2 General] MalekoUK:
Try the Update for HTC HD2 – New SMS Function Update (for Roms prior 1.66)

http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
[HD2 General] adrian_nene16:
does it matter if i live in usa n i use that rom? does your messages take a while to load up with the rom 1.66 or does it work fine with your hd2?
[HD2 General] MalekoUK:
Its a generic update, so wont matter.

I use the 1.43 ROM, waiting for my provider to release an update, or until they send me my unlock before i update to 1.66.

I used that patch and it now loads messages in the background, so you can type straight away.
[HD2 General] adrian_nene16:
okay thank you.

:)

did you see that supposedly hd2 won't be upgradeable to WM7S.?
[HD2 General] MalekoUK:
Yeh, because it has too many buttons?! lol
[HD2 General] morpheus1982:
Article released today, brought to my attention by a friend.

http://apcmag.com/microsoft-no-windows-phone-7-upgrade-for-windows-mobile-6x-devices.htm

What do you think?
[HD2 General] appelflap:
Tip for HTC disable 2 buttons with a upgrade ... lol
[HD2 General] wocko1:
Just another example of M$ shafting existing customers, to make them buy a new phone. And I find that quote saying that the HD2 doesn't have certain hardware components to meet the spec, sounds like a crock to me.

Hopefully someone with skill can graft a WinMo 7 on to the HD2, while M$ is too lazy to do it.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
That I frankly don't care, I got my HD2 for what it is and not what it possibly could be.

And that for those who are dying for it there's certainly a >50% chance that even if it doesnt come officially, someone on here will hack it. We have 2004 devices originally on PocketPC2003 running WM6.5 today, and having unofficially made all the steps inbetween... that's definitely very far from what they were originally intended for.
[HD2 General] adrian_nene16:
wtff?? just because the htc hd2 doesn't have the three buttons is not getting the wm7s upgrade? Microsoft just scuppered future sales of the hd2 by doing this, i have my doubts now if ill buy it or not!
[HD2 General] jorghd2:
I don't see how the buttons would be the issue...

Call can stays the same

Hang-up stays the same

Back stays the same

Home makes it go back to the windows panels

Windows could be the dedicated search button

I think HTC can upgrade if they wanted to, it just comes down to some executive saying yes/no for money reasons
[HD2 General] appelflap:
Yeah, that would even be better. A WinPhone with 5 buttons, what do you think about that!!

No, just kidding. I think you're right. The HD2 is really well designed. If HTC would just maintain the OS and update the Sense interface on the go, that would be really fine by me.

WinPhone is something for the future, far far ahead. (First wait for the first Winnie-the-Pho 7 generation, then get one when WinPhone 8 comes kicking in)
[HD2 General] chalid:
I'm not too surprised and not really disappointed. WP7 is looking way too closed for me. I would have given it a try, if the HD2 was upgradeable, but instead I will switch right to an android device (or hopefully there will be an [inofficial] upgrade for the HD2). Looking at the latest handsets with the latest 2.1 version, I really don't see why I should stick with Microsoft, which are screwing their current customers, who kept WM alive.
[HD2 General] de Wolfe:
I wouldn't give too much about this article. Until now WP7 is by far not released and M$ often told a lot of tings that never came true. The funny thing about that company is the fact, that nobody knows ho is really able to give an official statement. I think you will be able to find more then 10 "official" statements by some M$-people about WP7 within the next months...

And about the THREE buttons - what should that mean? Does WP7 not allow QWERTY-phones? If that was true they would just lose lots of business-users that simply want to have HW-keyboard....
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
Im not fussed about whether HD2 gets an upgrade or not.

WHat i am fussed about (if this is true) is the fact that MS will insist upon each of their WP7 series devices having ONLY 3 buttons and no more.

That would truly suck. Having their 3 buttons makes sense but the restriction for putting any more hardware keys onto a device does not.

I guess i will now seriously be thinking about android for my next device.
[HD2 General] derScheich:
Who the hell said that any WP7S device is not allowed to have more than 3 buttons? Right, nobody..
[HD2 General] RainesX:
How can they say that this phone dont have what they want?

It has everything except the frontfacing cam that they will use for commands like waving your hand over your phone. (that wont work in darkness)

Anyway not that i would want WP7 since it looks like crap.

And wm6.x will become classic for budget users? wtf? wp7 looks more budget to me :\
[HD2 General] appelflap:
As senseless as it may sound in this discussion, I actually think that it makes sense that Microsoft is constraining phone-makers. I think they should strive for a uniform product. That would be a very good answer to apple and in the end will serve the user better. Now, the user have to choose between a myriad of devices that only on the surface differ from each other. Maybe, when there's just one hardware standard we can look for:

a) a better integration of software and hardware (like the iPhone)

b) a better way to compare several devices

c) a broader platform of third party accessoiries producers

But it would be great if in the meantime there will be still a WM 6.5(.x) platform that is highly customizable by phone-makers. Then we can look forward to two types of Windows Mobile devices: 1. a standard WinPhone and 2. a customized Windows Mobile based phone that each have their own interfaces.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
WM6.5.x will still exist alongside WP7... this is a given.

The problem is... for how long? In my opinion... i cant see it being all that long at all... developers will obviously want to port their apps to the newer platform asap. Once this happens... to an extent its game over for 6.5.x

I like your points about how a uniform product can be a good thing... and i agree with having a hardware standard. However... extending the hardware standard to include how many buttons you can put on a device makes no sense to me whatsoever. What if i want to make a device that has a dpad? or trackball? optical mouse? etc etc.... even a simply volume rocker? is this allowed?

Some one needs to clear this up.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
FTA: the phone will be ruled out for the simple reason that it has five buttons instead of the three mandated for all Windows Phone 7 devices.

General Manager for Microsoft’s Mobile Communications Business in the Asia-Pacific region, told APC that the HD2 “doesn’t qualify because it doesn’t have the three buttons”.
[HD2 General] Starfury:
I'm sure XDA-Devs will do it ourselves like we seemingly have to do for everything, as the saying goes "if you want something done properly, do it yourself", we have with everything else in the past and I am sure we will with WindowsPhone7Series
[HD2 General] shu8i:
you watched the wp7s introduction video? i don't think so :).

btw. i don't get it. every time anybody asks microsoft about upgrade on the HD2 they just point to come to the mix. I don't think that at the mix they'll just say "no we won't upgrade". Doesn't make any sense; why don't they just say "no" right now? and i don't think that they would say "no" to upgrade right before the US HD2 launch.
[HD2 General] derScheich:
The whole show, my friend :) can you give me the exact quote, which says that no more than 3 buttons are allowed? And what about this?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/27/exclusive-lgs-windows-phone-7-series-early-prototype-unveiled/

Is it just me, or are there more than just 3 buttons? :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] shu8i:
i don't have the link now, since i watched it live. if you send me a link of the video i will show you that Joe Belfiore explicitly said that wp7s devices will have 3 buttons ;). and the link you posted above will be the first wp7s device from LG with 3!!! buttons on the bottom. if you see more than 3, i'll need glases :D
[HD2 General] Sy-32:
Seems all to strange to me...... it's like saying that "you can't upgrade your PC to windows 7 because you have to many buttons on the case or too many usb ports"

Anyway, things may well change between now and release.... (here's hoping)

Well we could go down the iphone users route and demand a free upgrade to a new handset because there is a new Os out........ lol
[HD2 General] seed_al:
But Apple makes crappy phones (cheap materials and outdated hardware). Plus, they dictate what you can do with your phone and what not, that's BS (sucks when the only way to get a file onto your phone is to email it to you, cause they don't let you access the file system... that's just one example).

You should have a look at Motorola. I like what they're doing. And it didn't take them long to provide an Android update for their Droid.
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
I accept your points but It's worth clarifying two things:

1 - Microsoft's policy with WM6 and the start button has no bearing on WP7 which they are clearly taking a firmer stance on in the interest of user experience consistency. To have one phone with two different operating systems in the wild would be anything but consistent.

2 - Android 2.1 is a software update to a free OS, it is neither a new operating system nor does it have strict hardware requirements. On top of that at present the Hero is still stuck on Android 1.5 so it is quite evident that even when a free and unrestricted update is out there HTC are less than keen to get it out to their customers in any hurry
[HD2 General] XDA mark:
Yeah actually on the day I should have gotten my HD2, it appeared the company that should have send it to me was out of stock. Then I found another company that offered me to come and pick it up, so I could end up with my HD2 on Christmas day.

But for a second, I thought to go for the Droid/Milestone. But then again, I have learned that these kind of fast decision are usually bad. Then again, maybe this time it would have been good :)

No to be honest, I have seen the Droid many times and I do not see why everybody is so fanatic about it. Stock Android OS on the droid (without live wallpapers and 2.1 features) is really boring. Nokia-like. And the Droid itself is not very nice looking IMO. Also there was some considerable lag when swiping between the homescreen's...

Today I have another look at the HD2 (looks like every day I change my opinion about my device). I was watching some youtube (not much to do at work today) about the HTC Desire and Legend, and suddenly I just saw that basically all HTC devices with Sense have almost the same experience. To go even further, suddenly I find the HTC Sense on the HD2 nicer then the one on Android Devices. The only thing that makes the Android devices better is the much better AppStore.

When searching some more I found this, which is IMO really fast and stable. Also the 6.5.3. really makes things look and work better. I really hope HTC and MS will give us a nice 6.5.3 update soon, because that seems to make the HD2 a much better device. The way the HD Mini OS looks is in the right direction. I don't need a useless and ugly 'Start' buttom at the bottem left, when I have a 'Start' key?

Bleh, I am just going to leave 7 Series alone and focus on what DOES matter regarding the HD2.

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7 Series is far away.. by then the HD2 could be optimized and I would not even want 7 Series. The first 6-12 months the Xbox Live features will be limited, in beta and so I would not be missing out on anything. Zune I would like, but is not something I necessarily need. So yeah.. it's all good. If only all these Developers would not leave, and make at least a decent appstore for us. But worst of all, Adobe should really finish their flash for the HD2.. This was posted on 12 of feb.. 3 days before MWC... 3 days before they decided to stop. No way they would stop at this stage... look how nice it is already working.

I don't know why, but I still believe Adobe's 'HTC HD2 will be the first device that will get flash' is valid, despite somebody telling me here that this device was BEFORE the 'we are not making flash for 6.5 anymore'...

EDIT2: Hmm, just read that Adobe forum thread, and the post in which he tells us 'We are not making flash for 6.5 anymore' is from 9 feb. So after that dude told us that, 3 days later they release that movie showing us flash on the HD2, running on 6.5.

Damn I feel like I am watching LOST (it's a TV show, for the cavemen here;) Very good show, must see!)... I need some answers!! From MS, HTC and Adobe lol
[HD2 General] Euroman28:
Friends and fellow HD2 owners,

Can we agree that the b.s. about "the HD2 has 5 hardware buttons and bla bla. no WM7".

That that claim is a load of *censored* ?

The most likely real reason is that MS is demanding that

1) HTC scraps their HTC Sense for Windows Phones.

2) MS wants x amount of dollars for allowing HTC do to an upgrade rom for the HD2 a price which MS and HTC hasn't agreed on yet?
[HD2 General] young blade:
I agree..;)
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
Can we NOT agree?

Microsoft are CLEARLY trying to push a consistent user experience across all hardware. This strategy could prove successful as there is no other OS provider that STIPULATES SPECIFIC hardware requirements to its phone manufacturers; this will encourage developers to move to Microsoft's platform as there is no need to worry about inconsistent hardware, so they can truly tap new devices' potential (something they are patently unable to do at present with Windows Marketplace)

Apple haven't been successful with the iPhone through pure luck, they've been very strict about what they do and do NOT accept....and it works...Microsoft have clearly seen this and are integrating this ethos within their own strategy.

Whilst it might seem capricious to write off a device because of its buttons, it would be WRONG for Microsoft to drift from this theory of 'consistency' from the outset; Microsoft needs to show that it means business and unfortunately that means showing that they are not willing to break their own rules, no matter how small.

Remember that as HD2 owners we are biased. OBVIOUSLY we would like a free upgrade to WP7 but REALLY does it matter? I'll be ready for a new phone by the end of the year anyway and I'm perfectly happy with the HD2 until then.

It's still as good as it was when I bought it.

With respect to Sense, Microsoft won't be DEMANDING HTC remove it, HTC will WANT to keep it on the HD2.

The HD2 IS ALL ABOUT SENSE FOR GOD's SAKE.

Did you not watch the teasers for the device before it came out?

And did they not make you want to buy it???

To remove Sense from the HD2 would be stupid as it is essentially the foundation stone for the handset, backed up by TV, magazine and web advertisements.

There is NO WAY IN HELL that HTC are going to devote precious development and legal time into getting WP7 up and running on the HD2 at the expense of all this effort. Seriously guys, the demand for WP7 on the HD2 is NOTHING. We are just a tiny number among the milllions of people who own a HD2 and are perfectly happy with Sense.

So let's stop dwelling on the button thing shall we? The fact is ALL THE LOGIC is stacked up AGAINST an update, much as we might like one.

I'm just going to enjoy my HD2. In 9 months time there will be something better out and we'll all stop caring and find something new to moan about.

I can see why HTC might be loathed to remove their work from the HD2 - I'm starting to think there's more sense on my phone than there is in these forums.
[HD2 General] Euroman28:
I have to disagree chief,

Cause yet at the moment the HD2 is one of the best smartsphones on the market. But why have all of these "false" upgrade rumours?

A sales gimmick by HTC?
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
Rumours come, rumours go. We could get all conspiratorial here or we could just accept that IN THE END rumours...well they don't mean s**t do they?
[HD2 General] XDA mark:
Because it is (was) pretty sure that the HD2 would get the next version of Microsoft's OS (because of high specs, first WM phone with capacitive touchscreen, etc) . But, since 7 Series is out, not many 'positive upgrade rumors' have been floating around. MicroSoft has changed the way it plays the game, so suddenly the HD2 is not so 'suited' for an upgrade anymore.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
may be they put sense as hub in wp7 series
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
Yes of course....a hub.

Search YouTube for 'HTC HD2 - a closer look' and tell me exactly where having a Sense hub in Windows Phone 7 would fit into the holistic multiplatform 'Make it mine; stay close and discover the unexpected' ethos that HTC are pushing with Sense UI.

The HD2 is a Sense-centric device. It was born one, it will die one. From a business standpoint it would be idiotic of HTC to devote time and resources to finding ways to put Sense on the HD2 with WP7. The bigger picture is that very few general consumers are savvy enough to know about such an update and even fewer would expect one; I'm sure HTC are already planning the next wave of devices and we should just hope for a 6.5.x update and some improvements to the SMS app and other sense functionality.
[HD2 General] glyndal:
I don't get the massive fuss about HD2 not getting wp7s anyways. it will get released at the end of the year with little to no 3rd party support. the most you'll get will be manufacture apps and it will take a good 6-8 months before wp7s comes out of it's shell and starts rolling.