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[Touch HD Android Development] MRFERRARI23:
thanks for the reply.... so for me then what does that new rootfs basically do for me if it isn't going to get wifi working??? well I hope in a few days it will be, b/c if its not then having this android on my phone really doesn't serve any purpose b/c I can't use any of the functions that require data/wifi :(
[Touch HD Android Development] norcal colby:
yeah so im good with customizing the windows mobile part of my phone (roms, registry, splash screens, apps, uis... all that fun stuff) but im new to this android business. ive been working on getting the hero ripped package working and linux has been running on my phone for the past 20 mins... its keeps listing numbers and stuff. i just wondered if i did something wrong.. all i did was us the ripped hero package and used the new rootfs
[Touch HD Android Development] la3bna:
You say GPS works, what device and fileset are you using??
[Touch HD Android Development] rajeshjha84:
I think he is confused with Geolocation service. GPS still not working.
[Touch HD Android Development] la3bna:
I kinda hoped for that
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
It's something we had a lot of problems thinking about, with "we", I mean people involved in all this overclocking stuff.

But if you think about it with your brain, you'll find out that benchmark apps can't appear to be faster without actually be.

I'll base on the fact that the benchmarks show better results, when we don't tell the system it's overclocked, but you can do quite the same thoughs about it.

The computation of the benchmarking app, always take the same number of cpu cycles.

Two cases:

Either the time counting is based on the actual cpu frequency (ie it counts the number of ticks of the CPU), or not.

First study case, it is actually based on it.

As said before, the computation always take the same number of cpu cycles, so if the timer is based on the cpu cycles, whatever the new cpu frequency is, it will show the same result. It's definitely not our case.

Second study case, it's not based on cpu cycles. And assuming there is no way to be half based on cpu cycles, half not based on it. (Actually I can't see any way to do so, thus we re fine.).

Well.... the benchmark's values are correct then !

No, definitely, whatever the timers are screwed or not, if the benchmark shows better score, it's really better.

Though, if timers are screwed, user experience might change a lot, becaues you're no longer sure of what happens at all.
[Touch HD Android Development] Bya:
Soooooo... I realized that I didn't thank you guy(s) for the work you've done.

Thanks a lot for this release it really rocks !

- Bya -

P.S.: google and youtube widgets make it restart by itself. Market doesn't work even with the "market://search?q=" trick...
[Touch HD Android Development] Werniandro:
htc sync

Many thanks you for that, so far it works immediatly.

The next problem arises than, it seems that the blackstone sends

an unknown usb\VID... string, all zeros in the end.

I put it in the htc usb drivers androidusb.inf file. this helps Windows to

install the device in its device manager.

But on XP wether HTC SYNC nor Droid Explorer can find the device.

On Windows 7 droid explorer works sometimes, just in the time when the phone tries to connect.

Has anyone some ideas ?

Werniandro
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
make sure echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch is present and unchecked on \conf\eclairhero.user.conf

it should work at least on droid explorer or with adb (android sdk tools)

Klinux
[Touch HD Android Development] Werniandro:
Thx klinux. i could get the droid working.

but once the phone goes to display timeout it looses the connection.

i have to disconnect usb cable,wait till usb on the phone is off, plug in

the cable again and than it works again... a while,sometimes it chrashes

with a typical windows error reporting question.

werniandro
[Touch HD Android Development] nickislauw:
heey klinux

ive got a problem:

on my diamond when i end an app or go back to the main screen with sense, the htc sense is going to restart everytime:(.

this takes long and is annoying.

it actually means i cant start an app because then htc sense is going to restart everytime..

know how i fix it??

tnx

Nick
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
go to setting\applications\development\ and check stay awake your phone will not go to sleep when usb is connected
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
A little trick for Speed up for Diamond Users

In the conf folder open up eclairhero.user.conf and modify

From

cc_disksize=100

To

cc_disksize=20

this should help to keep sense awake :)
[Touch HD Android Development] NoMercyWWE:
cant get 3g to work on topaz - how do you get it to work? Provider is t-mobile germany
[Touch HD Android Development] nickislauw:
oke i will try it and reply.

tnx

Nick

EDIT: Disksize is already 25 so i think it wont get the sense awake with disksize 20

Any other suggestions?
[Touch HD Android Development] dark_borja:
diamond

i have a diamond, and i cant use it becouse the same problem... U.u´ the Sense is restarting everytime, how i fix it??

I can use SWAP?? HOW i do this??

THX
[Touch HD Android Development] canthonyza:
Hi Guys!

Loving Android 2.1 Sense on Blacstone. I can't seem to search this thread to see if anyone asked this question, but is HW3D enabled and working for BLAC?
[Touch HD Android Development] N!ghty:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6105202&highlight=restore+defaults#post6105202
[Touch HD Android Development] NoMercyWWE:
N!ghty unfortunately restore defaults in apn settings is working

but 3g is still not available - there isnt even an icon
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
I got it working but it's so slow and buggy that's why it's not activated, if u use the latest build with overclockig cmdline the system will be smooth

Klinux
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Without knowing how the benchmark apps are working, it's a mute point but yes I agree... if they are measuring 'absolute time' elapsed... (assuming the elapsed time measurement is accurate) and the functions they called were truly executed, then the results should be accurate.

I've tried the overclocking values and genuinely can't (yet) see a noticeable difference, but I've yet to try any processor intensive tasks like gaming.

Based on what you've said, it seems that nobody's 100% certain (yet), but all the evidence is pointing towards the overclocking genuinely having a positive impact.

I am going to add the overclocking option to my cab releases, I'm just not certain which devices support it, and what the values should be for each device. Does anybody have such a list? (the 'values' being the max recommended o/c value).
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
Well, a benchmarking app (unless they are really stupid.), just times the time needed to do some known computation.

700MHz seems to be supported by all devices.

I'd say 650MHz is quite safe, that's the value I gave to k_linux.
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
that's the values I added to startup configs on 1st post for all devices, I'm using it myself it seems fine no extra battery consumption untill now

Klinux
[Touch HD Android Development] lovefromsky:
Any idea for three issues on Diamond:

1) Restarting HTC sense everytime when coming back to home screen

2) HTC widgets not available

3) HTC clock FC message keep on appearing

Already have conf file disksize value of 20 with no improvement
[Touch HD Android Development] Werniandro:
system0413.sqsh

Hi klinux,

here is my first feedback for system.sqsh from13.04.

On blackstone there is an new (not really shure, i have to go back to 07.04. to test it) issue with market.

if you use search it reboots the system.

response to clicks an touches looks fine.

werniandro
[Touch HD Android Development] DarsVaeda:
No i'm quite sure it works.

As i get my position exactly where i am not like in x meters radius.

I only get the same exact position when i use gps with windows.

I'm using a blackstone, i don't know what you mean with "fileset".
[Touch HD Android Development] Cyclone_storm:
Same here:D:D:D
[Touch HD Android Development] perern:
problem for me also
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
It really does NOT work.

What you're getting is basically Google logging your Wifi access point or your Cell ID

If you live in a city, then the Cell size can be pretty small, and therefore reasonably accurate.

Also, they have some agreements with SOME operators to deduce location via triangulation, which can be more accurate still.

But honestly, you ain't getting this via GPS. Besides, it usually takes a while to get a fix via GPS if you've not used it for a while and moved any distance from your last fix...

Have faith, it's not GPS
[Touch HD Android Development] lebmb:
difference

out of curiosity, what's the difference between the package_sense_hero_ripped_140310_custom.tar.gz and the newest system and rootfs?
[Touch HD Android Development] la3bna:
By filset I mean wich core files? (zImg files), rootfs, system and so on.

Can you explain how you got it to work?

Do you use a GPS app or google map application?
[Touch HD Android Development] NoMercyWWE:
Ok sorry guys i was wrong, i just format my card and after that everything but 3g works fine.

i got it to work with manual setting apn for my provider

now only one problem persists - marketplace bug with search, im not sure but i think it is also mentioned here
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
overclocking feedback ?

Hi guys,

I didn't see any feedback after using new startups with overclocking cmdline, apart thebrillantmistake post

Is he the only one who try it !? :)

If someone did it please post feedback

Cheers

Klinux
[Touch HD Android Development] canthonyza:
Ah I see, no worries. I don't use much 3D on my device anyway.

Although, the overclocking changes seems to freeze up my device. I deleted data.img and all other relevant files and started off fresh. It freezes when it tries to register to the gsm network.

Any idea why?
[Touch HD Android Development] canthonyza:
And now it froze at HTC logo :( Any modification I can make to startup.txt to troubleshoot the issue?
[Touch HD Android Development] andy555:
help

hi, downloaded new image file and loaded it boot up goes through run then i get error messages, can you lep me know where i may be going wrong, also in the folder 'rename andoid apps after 1st boot should i copy apps to this location ? where on sd card should all this be located, apart from my errors looks great

thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
I don't think it needs any agreement, anyway our RIL doesn't support that.

I don't even know if the radio supports that at all.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheDeadCPU:
Ripped is without Sense UI.
[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
I have very annoying issue with a 07/04 and 13/04 builds. To get 3G working I have to switch network mode to GSM and back to GSM/WCDMA auto. This will cause a crash and restart of the phone process. After that 3G works no prob, but I can't make outgoing calls anymore (incoming calls are fine tho).

Also I don't have Live Wallpapers - only an empty spot on choose wallpaper menu. Selecting that empty spot causes luncher restart. But it's not as important as having 3G and outgoing calls working both at the same time.
[Touch HD Android Development] nerd6373:
I tried the start up text an i dont see much of a difference...all this time ive been using setcpu app to make the build faster (I love setcpu by the way) and when i opened setcpu it told me that it was running at 633 mhz , so i do believe the start up text does work. I just dont see a actual difference in performance.

Also, some things I wanted to point out that hopefully you can help me with klinux. For some reason when the phone is in portrait the home screen looks perfectly fine. But when you switch to landscape, all items withing home screen do not seem to be in place..the clock is on the far left instead of the middle, and the icons i got at the bottom of the page is being overlapped by the bottom taskbar (^, phone, + )
[Touch HD Android Development] Werniandro:
where

hello klinux,

since i'am not very familiar with theses things until now:

where will i find this setting
[Touch HD Android Development] Werniandro:
system0413.sqsh

just a feedback.

charge LED stays on all the time, even if no usb-cable is connected

regards werniandro
[Touch HD Android Development] tomietie:
:( :( :( :( :(
[Touch HD Android Development] TheDeadCPU:
Very productive..

NO Android port has this working. Except if you have a Vogue.
[Touch HD Android Development] rvdgeer:
I do believe the Kaiser port has GPS working...

Don't know about camera...
[Touch HD Android Development] DarsVaeda:
Hi,

ahh now i get it.

Ok you are right.

When i disable Wifi the precision is lost. I never knew i can triangulate via wifi and that this is so accurate. It has the exact same position as the gps on windows.

Thanks for the info!
[Touch HD Android Development] lebmb:
cant stop this new system from rebooting all the time :(
[Touch HD Android Development] jopherr:
i tried overclocking it. on my tilt 2 it makes it very speedy only with a bit of graphical tears everynow and then

e.g. if i swipe past the favorite people widget really fast, the bottom part of it will get cut off and when i settle on that, tab,page what ever u call them, the bottom part of the widget will return.

sorry ill try to get some screenshots.

the graphical tears are only temporary and visual but apart from that the OC cmdline works wonders :D
[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
Just discovered that I can't make outgoing calls after switching back from airplane mode. Looks like disabling phone process and restoring it later kills ability to make outgoing calls on my Blackstone :(
[Touch HD Android Development] fastrat350:
the updated startup for overclocking works really well, tried it on my touch pro(ralp800) and it moves quickly. Only side effect even without overclocking i have more battery drain, but that is expected with most android builds
[Touch HD Android Development] rojeet:
thats great, i have a ralph800 as well but am having trouble getting this to work. Are you using the build with HTC sense? I am trying to get that one to work but am having lots of problems. But I dont want to give up on the Sense since its awesome!
[Touch HD Android Development] jamen:
what type of problems are you having? I get occasional freezes with the newest system.sqsh (reboots android) and sometimes data doesn't work unless I reboot the phone entirely... and obviously battery drain. other than that it's working very well both with and without overclocking. raph800
[Touch HD Android Development] rojeet:
well mine simply wont boot all the way. I can get the newest package to work just fine (the one without htc sense) but im trying to get the march 29th package to work since i believe that was the last one that had htc sense, or am i wrong? I am using the rootfs, zimage, and modules from the latest package, but everything else is from the march 29th package with Sense.
[Touch HD Android Development] [ACL]:
Rhod Wifi

I finally had a chance to get the wifi working on the Rhodium. It will probably be out on the next klinux release.

I definitely need to give PHH a big thanks for helping me decipher those logs.

So whats next?
[Touch HD Android Development] N!ghty:
i assume u restarted the phone at least once, because this is most likely required. alternatively u could enable airplane mode and disable again, which i did instead (however i needed to to it a couple of times and wait a few minutes before disabling again), then it worked fine.
[Touch HD Android Development] elroy944:
good news!!! can't wait to use it.

Hope sound or batterymeter will be fixed soon now
[Touch HD Android Development] la3bna:
From my experince the sound is a bit dogy but it works for "work noice", speaker phone works quite good i think..

I think (please correct me if Im wrong) that the battery meter calculates the remaingn capasity based on the battery voltage.

And just to add in I see that charging works good now, even has the charge animation going good..

Keep ut the good work KlinuX
[Touch HD Android Development] sebbo90:
Possibility you could post your new update in the rhodium section?
[Touch HD Android Development] Musse_1:
it works just fine with X1:) amazing boot time!! Thank you klinux for this wonderful SENSE ui:rolleyes: and for instructions on which files to use a few post back.

and also thanks to iceman198 for his step-by-step instructions:)

we, once again, users of X1 have issue with the screen upside down...fatsal worked a lot with it and had to patch android driver for kovsky to initialize the panel the correct way and make it work on X1.
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
bluetooth fixed !

I hope I don't misunderstand you

-first system sqsh that I share boots

-new system sqsh without rosie boots

-new system sqsh with rosie doesn't boot

-system from ossama's thread boots

can you guys confirm this ?

please post which package you are using and if it boots or not

to fix it before new release.

by the way, thx to phh bluetooth can be turned on and off and can pair with other devices ! :D

wait for new package very soon

stay tuned

cheers

Klinux
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
same on my rhodium...exactly what you write...
[Touch HD Android Development] greeny nl:
is there anyone who can tell me were i can find an zImage for adroid 2.1build

couse i only find the 2.01
[Touch HD Android Development] elroy944:
i read there are several rhodium users, maybe that someone wil make a package/cab with this build for the rhodium on the rhodium section. i also own a rhod100 and got it working except sense and wifi. when i use another rootfs and zimage it wont boot. Maybe it's not optimized for rhodium?
[Touch HD Android Development] BHy4ok:
I have the same problem, removed app, but nothing
[Touch HD Android Development] sahhar1993:
could you port this to our htc ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=636048
[Touch HD Android Development] brodos123:
Hi

I added this line htcblackstone-panel.no_bkl_off=1 in the end of the cmdline in startup.txt

However it seems that it goes to sleep as before, also the backlight is off.

Does this mean that It doesnt work?

Edit: it should be: board-htcblackstone-panel.no_bkl_off=1
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
look here.

tried on my rhodium and is very fast!...no rosie :(.
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
zImage from glemsom work on both 2.01 and 2.1
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
not as easy as it seems :)
[Touch HD Android Development] sahhar1993:
to add bleutoth what i download ?
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
I'm concentred on the ripped package now, so from now on it will be the main one untill we get something stable.

by the way if someone of you rhod users can explain in details what's the problem with wifi or send a logcat, maybe I can fix it.

cheers
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
i think klinux are uploading...right?;-)
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
New release ! Bluetooth included !

uploading only ripped package

check 1st post for details and link

you have to wait guys my upload speed is so slow still 1 hour left
[Touch HD Android Development] sahhar1993:
yes but where is it
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
"uploading" means that the file is still not available...wait some minutes...
[Touch HD Android Development] rajeshjha84:
Is it uploaded?
[Touch HD Android Development] sahhar1993:
are you finish klinux
[Touch HD Android Development] Gabilonso:
SD Card

Hi all,

I only see "Waiting for SD Card" before run Haret. What´s the problem? I´d put all files in the root do the card.

Thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
sorry guys my upload speed is too slow you have to wait

I will post when finished
[Touch HD Android Development] lebmb:
great job, thank you. i'll be on the lookout for it

as to what's next, lol so many things...
[Touch HD Android Development] Erik Geyskens:
Maybe we can hold a little poll to see what is the most requested feature:

Sound 1x

GPS

Camera

(Can everybody add there request to this message?)
[Touch HD Android Development] TheDeadCPU:
Well.. If I was developing.. In this FREE project. I would never work with what people told me to work with. I would work with what I wanted and could work with.
[Touch HD Android Development] Kawaiius:
Well its a good thing your not developing then
[Touch HD Android Development] Erik Geyskens:
@ TheDeadCpu

I apologize if you understood my massage like that.

My intend was just to see what other people find important and is in no way the developers should look at as something they have to do.

Kind regards,

Erik

P.S. [ACL] asked: "So what's next?", so he cares also about the others
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
But I'm developing, and I think like him.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
And I'm developing too..... into a psychopath... with every "does this work on HD2" question.

Is there something about HD2 Radio Emissions causing brain cells to die?
[Touch HD Android Development] R^7Z:
Think so? He got some good ideas, me thinks!:D

HA! and here I thought "I" was the only one that saw this "HD" thread being over populated with HD2 requests!:eek:

"I see HD2 requests!":eek:

Okay, enough of my thread clutter! :o
[Touch HD Android Development] mamuth42:
Hi! I installed Android 2.1 to my Topaz. I have problem with SIM card. It can't be read. I Have no GSM (no calls) and no SIM contacts.

What should I do to fix this problem?
[Touch HD Android Development] fastrat350:
Yes im using the sense build, but I've been using back and forth, since i keep installing diff builds, the sense is really great but one issue i have is call being delayed or not coming through, not sure if its really related. But its really nice and its keeping me sane in the meantime till the EVO is out.
[Touch HD Android Development] lebmb:
Metropcs & reboot

i think the RIL in the curent rootfs is whats causing the reboots with the Sprint Touch Pro2 on metropcs, after i installed APNDroid and disabled data while in airplane mode, then turned off airplane mode and was able to stop it from rebooting, once i entered the APN settings for metro, no more reboots. so the problem was due to trying to connect to a blank apn setting.

at least it's working now, but i cant add my gmail account over data for some reason, couldn't do it with the previous system either.

oh in case your wondering, i had to use some old rootfs that didn't have the cdma ril thrown in :)
[Touch HD Android Development] rojeet:
okay cool. Ya i got it working now, wi-fi too! coming along pretty well! cant wait to get things running smoother! im going to keep trying different zimages and stuff. how is your battery life?
[Touch HD Android Development] whitefalcon:
hahaha touche I agree with you :cool:
[Touch HD Android Development] fastrat350:
thats good to hear,

BTW heres a video i did of HTC Sense build running on a touch pro with overclocking, really smooth and fluid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3kBzSMkX5Y
[Touch HD Android Development] pzucchel:
Don't be too upset...you see what happens by overclocking?...developers can still do what they want even if people is saying what they like.... :o...and they will do it anyway...:D
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
new release ! rootfs to enable wifi on rhodium/tilt2/TP2 thx to [ACL]

Hi guys,

check 1st post for download link and 3rd for changelog

rhodium/tilt2/TP2 users please test the new rootfs and report feedback I don't have rhod so I can't test it

for all users, please test the new system and compare smoothness with the previous one it seems smoother to me to confirm

have fun, and stay tuned

Klinux
[Touch HD Android Development] klinux:
Thx man for the youtube video I will add it to 2nd post

Klinux