yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] LunaMaria:
i would have to say from personal experience i would suspect the lock screen to be the problem. i've had many lock ups with the windows default lockscreen for a while now and have given up on it no matter how nice it is.

it also uses alot of ram>.>

you might want to try to uninstall that lock screen for a day or two to see if it still locks up. if it stops then congrats you've found the cause and can use another lockscreen like manila lockscreen or s2u2 if you need it=]
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] light_n_roses:
I have just checked it now and it seems that after have installed cookie home tab the 24hours option disappear...

Try to go to "Impostazioni" -->Sistema--->Opzioni internazionali-->ora
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] dad388:
no never mind.. i re-re flashed and now i see it.

thanks for your helps
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] lim3918:
ok...i just uninstall lockdevice... will let you know again if this solves the problem
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
In my case, I had stopped using CHTEditor LockScreen because it was causing instability (phone wakes up, but cannot unlock). But I found that the LockScreen was still enabled (just didn't automatically lock; only if I touch the lock icon). Now I'm trying with that setting disabled as well. Also I have used Acer preferences to enable any key wakeup... let's see how it goes :)
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
This is strange; maybe due to some package difference in Arto's ROM vs. light_n_roses; this is what I see when I touch Menu:

Also, in my case (using Arto's 2.8 21903) I can access this setting from Clock -> Menu -> 24-Hour format, as well as Settings Tab -> Date & Time -> 24-hour format (the tick box is active).

I am using CHT and CHTEditor, so the problem can't be due to those software.

I saw that you reflashed and the problem disappeared; but I think that is because some software was blocking it - once you install all your software back, please see if you can still change between 12 and 24 hour formats..
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] dad388:
ok as you say the 24h menu disappear again... i think that the problem is the lock screen... i set it--soft reset--- et voilà le menu disparaît :D

but i read that the lock screen is the evil and it causes a lot of problems..... i'm courios to find out why.
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
not sure about why lock screens can cause problems; I was using CHTEditor's lock screen and it was good on 2.7 ROM, but on 2.8 there are some problems (sometimes even though the phone wakes up, the screen is "frozen" - cannot slide to unlock).

CHTEditor is not affecting the availability of 24h clock, but perhaps the lockscreen you are using does... when you uninstall only the lockscreen, does the setting appear again?
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
Thanks for the tip; I was able to create shortcuts to Band Switch (ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,20,2) and Backlight brightness (ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,6,2) which is really handy for me on Quick links :)

However, for me (I was using Resco Explorer 2010 to create the shortcuts) it didn't work if I included nn# - it was only when I removed the nn# that the shortcuts started to work.

Also, how can I add icons to the shortcuts?

/Sifaan
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
Last night I had a wakeup issue, and this was with the CHTEditor lock screen disabled as well!

The software I have installed, that is also present on your phone:

- cookie home tab

- coreplayer

- chteditor

- resco explorer 2010

- resco photo manager pro

- esmertec jbed

- BsB Tweaks (reinstalled, because cooked-in doesn't work)

other software I have installed; (*) means programs included by Arto... I think you probably have some of these as well (see Settings -> System -> Remove Programs)

Google Maps 4.1 (*)

SRW WOWHD v1.5.1.0 BT Enable (*)

smaberg White 1 percent battery (*)

Touch X music tab controls transparent (*, didn't realise this was included, can remove it)

brainmaster Livven Black as default (*)

brainmaster Artos Sense ROM settings (*)

Touch X Homescreen Flip clock OFF

HandHeldUsers.com Swype

AntWorks Auto Wallpaper Changer (is NOT set for automatic changes)

Ninja Duck Opera Mobile 10 (with Flash)

SPB News (NOT set for automatic updates)

Resco Registry Add-in

Resco Today Plugin

SPB Time

Skype Software SARL Skype for Windows Mobile

Adobe Reader 2.5 (*, I think!)

Resco Bubbles (and I have changed the HTC dll files as explained in the first post)

Microsoft Facebook (this is crap, I should remove it)

SPB Backup

Adobe Flashlite (I think this comes with Opera, or was it cooked in?)

SRS WOWHD v1.5.1.0 Fixed

I doubt if any of these programs could be the issue, because the two programs that could run periodically (SPB News and Auto Wallpaper changer) are not set for automatic mode... the only other app that could run unattended is SPB Time (for the alarm).

Anyway, after the wake-up issue, I have disabled auto updates for the following

- ActiveSync (mail/calendar with Gmail, earlier was push, now manual)

- Stocks (didn't realize this could be on when I don't have the stocks tab active, but the settings showed on... this is Settings Tab -> Data Services)

- Weather

- Internet Time Sync

- Facebook

- Work mail (was every 15 minutes)

(Haven't given Twitter/Youtube settings, so no autoupdates there anyway)

Let's see if this will fix the wakeup issue (need at least 3 days without wakeup issue, perhaps more)...

/Sifaan
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] crazemaster123:
....

When can we then use the update album art feature !? Why doesnt arto seems to reply to me .....
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] ocman:
for shortcut, its regedit, with keys...

so avoid your brain's overburning and simply use CSMI for example to manage icons, or the spft provided by arto in his rom "icon changer".
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] 13357910:
CAN YOU MAKE A cook roms is in Traditional Chinese :)
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] onze1980:
Hi, is it possible to install a ezinput with pad version in this rom?
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
btw have you tried to use Swype? I like it because it is fast for "typing", and although it doesn't have a ctrl key, there are dedicated keys for copy, paste, etc (but u have to press a few keys to get there)
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] lim3918:
since last few days till now after i uninstall lockdevice application from my neotouch...i havent get any unable to wake up from standby problem...guess that is the main culprit...but can anyone recommend me a auto lock application when suspending the phone...cause another lock app i tried is smartlock...i can work right after installation...but after a soft reset it wont work anymore
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] lim3918:
btw guys...anyone know whats the default free ram for neotouch after flashing this rom? cause i only got 50mb+ after soft reset...is it the way to be? cause after sometime it will reduce to 40mb+ without having any application in the background... is abit annoying cause when i need to use camera i have to close all application in the background or when there are none and only left with 20mb+ free ram(i dont know why) i have to soft reset... can creator of this rom solve this and give us at least 100mb free ram... thanks
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
Used the phone for 72+ hours and no wakeup issue... will try a couple more days and then try enabling some of the update features to see if I can isolate the problem. (it wasn't just a problem with the lockscreen, as I got wake-up bug even with lockscreens disabled)
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
I think I had about 58 MB free on soft-reset... if you want more; see this:

http://www.acers200.net/faq/how-can-i-get-more-free-ram

/Sifaan
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
I managed to disable the start menu and now have 70+ MB free on soft-reset.

I didn't try to install the Manila start menu

However, I was kind of expecting that the Windows logo and start text would disappear with this cab, but it's still there... and if I touch it, the phone does seem to freeze a bit (but it recovers after a while)

/Sifaan
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] GenesisN:
Hi, i'm using the italian version, how i can remove the beta written from the start menù?

sorry my bad english
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] light_n_roses:
eh it's a registry tweak but honestly I don't think that I can tell you because it's not an legal thing...anyway you can try to search around the web
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] light_n_roses:
arto I don't have news from you from some times now...any news ?
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] cookieliu:
Yes, I am waiting for arto's any news of 2.9 Version ROM.
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] lim3918:
hmm...i only tried disable htc sense and i get 90mb+ free ram...total of 200mb it already used up half of it...i wonder if that can be reduce in v2.9 rom
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] Arto:
Sorry but thats just not possible, this is already optimised for ram and if you install a stock rom you will have 115mb free ( considering that there are no htc services/modules at all !) so 85 mb free on a fresh rom with my disable start menu can considered as a Good Thing ;)

If you take a look at the tg1 section, they get 54mb free on a clean boot so dont expect too much from here :)

I am near of a final release, thx for your patience guys ;)
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] euplio:
1-Arto can you tell me why you use a beta build???

2-Your rom is too complete I think you can eliminate: wifi router,mp3 trimmerand microsoft my phone

3- You could add "ahen taskbar 6a"

http://winmo.techparaiso.com/skins/taskbars/ahen-taskbars/

4- I use the italian rom and "BsB tweaks" dont' work.

5-The rom is not 100% italian

Arto if you want I can help you improving and translating this rom, if you want you can give me the unpacked rom, bye..... Euplio
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] lim3918:
oic...thanks for your reply btw...your rom rocks :)
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] lim3918:
i can help answer first question...what arto is cooking now is an beta build...it is from microsoft ongoing development of wm6.5 and not yet release to the public as final build...cause there are still changes...maybe experiments...thats why sometimes it is not recommended if you want a stable rom...but if you want the latest and greatest that came out from microsoft windows mobile division (except windows phone 7 version) then you flash this rom
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] light_n_roses:
1) All windows mobile 6.5.X are in beta if you are referring to the signature in the start menu that can be removed by registry as it's only a string.

2) Rom has been made for everyone not just for single preferences, so nothing will be removed.

3) Agan we have tried to keep windows clean as much as possible, so people can customize their phone as they want...Indeed the taskbar that you have linked is in cab form so there is no sense to put the cab directly in the rom

4) I have personally checked BsB tweaks before uploading the rom so if it's not working try to reflesh.

5) the translation is good as it is and some things like mp3 trimmer are only avaible in english ...
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] Qazer:
All wm 6.5.X aren't in beta when selling new devices with it - HTC HD Mini, Garmin Asus M10 and Acer neoTouch P300 and P400.
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] euplio:
This is true, i cooked some rom for touch dual build 28005 and 23xxx and they weren't beta...
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] -JAZZMAN-:
So why not cook your own Rom in Italiano?
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] euplio:
Because now I haven't much time maybe later...:cool:
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] -JAZZMAN-:
obviously you didn't have time to read Arto's first post or page 115-#1148

or that light-n-roses is the person responsible for the italian translation.

1. so why not "ask" whether it's possible to remove wifi router, etc...

2. if Arto's rom is "too complete" why do you suggest adding more

simply because it suits your preference? BTW, it takes less than a minute to install the task bar cab yourself!!!

3. why don't you respond to light-n-roses' reply obviously he can answer

any questions you have concerning 2.8 italiano.
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
This depends on personal philosophy/preferences of chef; Arto's general principle is too keep it as light as possible, so users can install what they want.

Generally Arto removes MyPhone (because there are better ways to backup, and it is easy to install by cab anyway) and I don't see it in the version I'm using (2.8 21903). Do you mean Marketplace? That's only a link to download and install the cab if you want it...

Anyway, according to the philosophy, wifi router and mp3 trimmer (and perhaps few other things like BSB Tweaks, etc.) could be removed... so then it is a question of

1. Is it easy for users to install it by themselves by cab?

2. Is this useful for a vast majority of users (e.g. that's why BSB Tweaks is included even though it is also easy to install by cab)
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
Problems using phone as a 3G Modem?

Hi!

Does anyone else have issues using the phone as 3G Modem?

I have created a separate thread for it, because I don't think it is a problem specific to Arto's ROM, so if you have any ideas, please answer there.

/Sifaan
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] lim3918:
suggestion for next rom

hi arto...i realise htc sense cant change to landscape on using it in landscape position...i wonder if you can make music tab and photo and video tab able to change to landscape mode on turning it...since htc sense support it originally...thanks
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] dada-06:
hello I wanted to know how to put java in the phone are possible via a cab??

and if I have a little more Beug I take a picture there are a fixed cab

Sorry for my English

thank you in advance
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
Yes, you can install by cab... I use Esmertec jbed... it's a bit messy (e.g. permissions doesn't allow me to set "always allow net access" for an applet) but it's supposedly the one with the best compatibility for games, etc.
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] Arto:
sorry, not possible as it need the htc sensor and not the acer sensor
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] euplio:
Arto when you think you can public the Arto 2.9 italian??? Because I have some problem and I must flash, so i wait the new release
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] Arto:
don't know because light and rose have to translate before and Im not ready so you will have to wait until tomorrow at the best ;)
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] lim3918:
freeze on enable or disable of htc sense

arto...i just found out that if i try to disable htc sense from the home settings it will freeze...i have to soft reset to see it disabled...same for re enable of htc sense...it will freeze again and i have to soft reset again...is this a bug with htc sense or change of home items will cause freezing?
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sifaan:
Normally, this should work fine... I cannot test it right now as I have disabled the start menu (I should be able to disable sense, but once I do that I'm not sure if I will be able to enable it again easily!)

You could try to delete the Application Data folder on SD Card to see if it helps..
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] GenesisN:
the Italian version in International Options under the heading area has English, so every program is installed in English, such as Opera, Microsoft My Phone etc...

should then reinserted bsb tweaks
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] dad388:
i see an other problem with the lock screen.

if i use adobe reader or ather app in landscape and the pal go in standby, when i wakeup it the lock screen is in landscape but not in good visualitation so i can't see the unlock bar and i must reset the phone.
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sandroo84:
Hi Arto!

It would be my question that solvable it that let Acer be with a Hungarian language? Unfortunately the sunnysoft Hungarianizing the pda is frozen off. :(

Some other manner exists this way?

(Excuse me but I speak badly in English!)
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] Arto:
no because its not an htc device but you can have landscape with a cab that I posted few hours ago, but it's not the same landscape that you want
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] likawing:
report

at the home page, Calendar and Alarm also not work.

Alarm always off and Calendar not show appointment

sorry for my poor eng. hope u know what i say.
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] krisjanne:
Sorry ARTO i don't see this, tank for link have a good night tanks

here link for probleme batterie this one show statu batt in % if you want the time and mutli usage réglage try it its fantastique me i like this app it fabulous

arto can't you intégrate this cab in future rom please tank you so mutch

http://translate.googleusercontent....gle.nl&usg=ALkJrhiNcOreeOwkjpy_ePNYviFJS_Hf3g
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] light_n_roses:
ehy arto I have seen that you have asked something in "latest realeses " thread, it's about fixing htc mail and messages ?
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] Arto:
about windows mail...I can't make it working in the new builds, I don't understand tmail.exe does'nt launch even I replace it with an old one, it must be an other dll or something else...mi arranbia !!
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] light_n_roses:
yes I use that...don't know regarding the other guy...but probably at this point...
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] Arto:
I have to say that the 23545 and 47 are little buggy for me, maybe I don't put all the necessary packages..but my sys 21895 has exactly the same folders and work like a charm...I get back to 23541 to see if it works again
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] :
i made another script. this one adds an entry in the notification que.it plays a sound when you hit the power key....most probably its not going to make any difference...put in the same folder as the other script and run "run.mscr"

rapidshare.com/files/362940488/test2.zip.html
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] Arto:
Thank you ! I tried your previous script, no wake up issue, but I have to test it during a long period, I will let you know
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] :
one more thing, to remove the notification after you finish testing run this file:

http://rapidshare.com/files/362956508/kill2.mscr.html

i forgot to add it in the previous post....
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] Arto:
yahooo my problem is solved, I downloaded another package of 23547 and it works great! email works, tasks in connection settings works and games too, and finally the bug with calendra and alarm!

:cool:
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] mspock:
Hi Arto , I've just installed your 1.6 2185 rom ,i'm trying it just now .

The free ram appears to be 71.29 Mb after soft reset , decreasing soon to 50 Mb , storage : 202 free Mb .

At the very first device initialization , free ram was about 40Mb , dunno why .

-factory reset (from sense ) doesn't work ( file clearstorage cannot be opened )

- text input settings from sense doesn't work ( EzInputsettings cannot be opened ) , however , just press menu-->all settings from HTC sense settings tab to see original WMobile settings tab . From there you can access all settings , including Owner information and today setting ( to disable htc sense )

- personally finding flashlight useless

-first problem regarding wep key being not recognized ( gives an "incorrect key" error altough I'm sure it's the correct one ) turning on wifi by wifitoggle . If I go in connection manager and manually connect to my wifi network , the same key's recognized and I can finally connect .

-"calibrate gsensor in sound&display settings doesn't work ...I imagine this' due to htc-acer incompability.

-htc messaging utility doesn't work very well..... hanged when received the 1st message . Also , it hangs when selecting words in a received message . I don't know how to have the usual messaging - email windows utility . MANY PROBLEMS with sms manager

-new message--> writing something in contact window doesn't make the "contact-search" option to appear . Using Touchpal as input keyboard .

-Accessing in gravity sensor screen orientation setting leads to hang the system.

- Alarms doesn't show in home screen , always set to off .

- Battery always at 100% , anyway I've read you installed the 100%battery util.

-Just had a random reset

-That's all for now . I hope to be useful to your work with these testings , not made to criticize but to help .

If you have some advice on what to install ( also , sense fixes ) please tell me .

- Thank you very much for your work .
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] Arto:
Thx for your feedback, that help to see better what to fix ;)

- memory : sense make the difference (with all its services)

-factory reset does'nt work because I removed clear storage (I personnaly use the old school method to make a hard reset and that works great too)

-I removed ezinput, thats why you can't go to input settings

-if you want use wm settings from start menu, use bsb tweaks

-yeah flashlight is not usefull for everyone, maybe I remove it maybe not however its a 100% working htc software :D

-you right compatibility issue

-for the wifi, I did'nt have this problem one only time, sorry

-htc messaging is unstable, you can try htc official fix, maybe that could help

-I use touchpal too, great piece of keyboard !

-gravity sensor screen hangs when accessing by sense, you have to access by wm settings

-I study this issue edit : on the build 23547 it works, just a stupid question, have you set your alarm for the next day or later?

-like you said

-it's happen to me too, sadly I don't know why it happens

By the way I invite everybody to help to resolve the problems encountered with my roms because I don't think I can make a perfect rom alone...:cool:
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] LunaMaria:
hi i've been testing your rom and i found that under settings>personal>phone, theres is no "band" tab where i can switch the band from Auto to GSM only?

i thought that it would be great to have this option as it saves battery life.
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] hanabishi87:
which version?

Hi, I'm from singapore and had recently bought acer S200 Neotouch or F1..

I understand the difference between 21XXX and 23XXX is the start menu.. but I'm not sure which 1 is which.. I'm using the official rom for Singapore and Hong Kong which is 21883.. the start menu is on top so i guess 23XXX's start menu is below..

For the Arto's Sense 1.6.. which Rom is currently most stable? I'm just a normal user and have yet explored/tried applications like sense or manila.. not quite sure what are those applications used for.

Is the 23547 for Arto's Sense 1.6 be up soon?
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] joyqing:
i hope so, expect
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] mspock:
Thanks man ! ( I'm an hard-reset-old school fan too ;) )

Nice to see you removed ezinput ;)

solved wm settings with bsb tweaks , thanks

The major problem I encountered's sms and email management . It's being very annoying leading me to reset every time I wanna see a single sms .

I've tried to install official .exe htc hd2 fix but it comes with an incorrect device error . I've also tried with a cab fix , but this time it gives I have no sufficient administrative privileges ( whhaaat ? ) . So , no fix found with this , sorry man . Isn't there a way to use original wm. outlook as sms-mail client instead the htc's one ? - EDIT : solved the administrative privileges problem ( close manila-soft reset-apply cab file from device-soft reset-enable manila) but SAME ISSUES , htc sms's buggy , crappy , slow , hangs , ...

- about the alarm issue , I've set a simple all-days monday to friday alarm at 7.00AM . Till yesterday ( saturday ) alarms were displayed as off . Today it seems to work . So basically we could say they work the day before the alarm would be ...eheh..

thanks again !!! ;)
[neoTouch S200 ROM Development] sandroo84:
Hy!

Arto there are 21903 rom on the telephone. I would have liked replacing it with an other one. Does not start unfortunately the refreshing. I don't know boot into a manner to do. I push it though the power and the camera buttons. :( what should I do?