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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
@ Final5k:

I also tried "Gates of Night" and got same error, may be it is because the missing 3D3 Hardware. Only games with software render engine could run, also direct_draw and opengl 1.1.0 software mode. "Gates of Night" seems to be to advanced, may be it is a bug or wrong setting and it could run, dont know.

"Gates of Night" requires directx8.1, don´t know if it also requires directx hardware.

May be there will be a way to emulate 3D3 hardware in future, there could be diffrent ways and there are already early projects like directx grabber.

May be there will be a way to use 3D hardware of future devices?

There are so many nice RPG´s and ports running those on todays phones,

FPSECE is one of the best for me to play, it is running nearly all PS1 games perfect and there are so much RPG´s.

But also on iphone and ondroid phones are so many great games...

Games like Unreal 1 and Quake 2 are the most advanced games running on this @ very low fps.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Someone already was able to run Winmo qemu on dektop? This seems to work but much to slow. Running WM-qemu on emulated Winmo-device on Desktop could help testing and setting up faster and without Winmo device (if it is already buisy ;-)

Would be realy nice to emulate HD2 complete easy on Desktop, inpluding Andruid and HD2Ubuntu...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] axw820:
Hey guys, sorry, I'm a noob at this. I've been following XDA dev for ages and have always felt I'd be getting in the way of your excellent work by posting. However, I'm having real trouble figuring out how to download and install all of the necessary stuff for running a desktop Windows OS on my HD2. I've scoured Google and XDA dev trying to piece it all together but there is no simple step by step guide for lesser geeks like myself. I've never used qemu before, and have no idea where to download the necessary files for running 95/98/XP through qemu. I'm not completely stupid, I have installed countless roms and android builds on my Leo (including Gingerbread). Does anyone know of a step by step guide that could help me?

Cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
LOL, thats what i tried Yesterday! :p

Because i was ****ed up with recently changes (Graphics/Programs or whatever) on qemu on Desktop its running and copied the image to WinMo it sucks wit an error or doing nothing... :mad:

But i had the same experience - even on an 6X3.1 GHz Desktop it was nearly running slower than on my HD2 :rolleyes:

Thats because the WM Emulator is not using all cores on Desktop but only one...

But anyways it funny to emulate an Windows xp inside an windows mobile emulator inside an Windows 7 :D:D:D

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
U got an PM

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
:) You got some cracy ideas but I like it. As soon as I get some free time to play around I will join you with trying things out. Keep it up.

You found XDA so if all else fails you are in good hands now. ;) I will send you the necessary links and get you jump started. Soon I hope you will be able to read up everything you need to know in the new Thread. If I ever get started. ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
maybe qemu can emulate hd2 better on desktop, will see...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Just copying the image from the WM emulator to Qemu and starting it wont work...:mad:

We need an HD2 image 4 qemu :-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Running the images on qemu desktop is not the problem, a qemu version to do that is incuded in the xp image.

But I want to emulate HD2 on desktop to run our Winmo qemu ports on emulated Winmo.

I am able to run directx 8.1 mode fullscreen with directxgrabber 8.1. Amazing!!!

But I can see only poligon outlines yet. On Win98seHD2_latest on HD2 on Truckys qemu version(included in download)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Yepp, thats what i mean - we need an FULL compatible (and fast, not as slow as the MS device emulator) emulated WinMo on desktop (to start inside of this our images) -> an HD2 image for QemuX86 ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
@ Tokl: Did you tried truckys qemu version for crashing software?

I dont have that problem, just have to use truckys qemu version for some progs. What do you try to run?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Hi,

for example some old DOS Demos, run on Desktop fine, copied to WinMo and locks up (same with other stuff) ...

But i tried this with your Win98 version (i think its way faster, so have more usability on WinMo, than the XP Version)

The other one was while i was playing with different vgabios and drivers for that. On Desktop running fine - on WM no go...

Because this testings need alot of time on slow Qemu on HD2, i did want have an (eqivalent) desktop QemuARM. But the WM Device Emulator from M$ is not really faster on desktop than my HD2...

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Tokl n o what I mean is to load my win98se image with the truckys winmo qemu version.

This version has fixed bugs and could run most of the software runs on qemu desktop and crashes on my qemu version.

The more stable winmo qemu version is included in the download Win98seHD2_latest in the win98se folder.

Instruktions in the Readme "Important" section.

But this version has not that nice UI menu and some limitations in input.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
DXBALLS is one of this games crashing on my qemu version but running on my imae with trukkys qemu version.

I am setting up another gaming optimized image including dxwrapper and klatest directx, this is my favorit image I am using now.

Also there will be a stripped fast 70-110 mb Win98se image including everything to run most games and software. This is also possible to boot from internal storage if you can clean up so much.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
DXBALLS is one of this games crashing on my qemu version but running on my imae with trukkys qemu version.

I am setting up another gaming optimized image including dxwrapper and latest directx, this is my favorit image I am using now.

Also there will be a stripped fast 70-110 mb Win98se image including everything to run most games and software. This is also possible to boot from internal storage if you can clean up so much.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
LOL, thats what you mean - now i did understand :D

Will try that later... Thanks

btw: Ubuntu HD2 v0.3 is out, great Speed ;)

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bfaz7650:
Hello guys,

I would really appreciate if somebody would send me a link to the files needed to run windows 95/98 on my htc -hd2 and a short guide if possible.I have been waiting for this project to pick up for months.

Many Thanks

bfaz7650
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
U got Mail!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
tokl about vgabios, even if you could enable any display driver and device, it will not be better. The cirrus seems to have bugs with hardware acceleration enabled on evey system and driver, but no matter there is no need for hardware acceleration because there is no hardware and the performance will not be better if additional device usage is emulated.

Hardware acceleration on emulated hardware is same as:

you are faster at walking to get somewhere as you would have to build a complete car every time you want to use it.

The cirrus driver is good and enables many high res high color diplay modes. Your crashing probs are because of the qemu version. What games and software you try? Did you tested openoffice or 3dstudio on my image? It also requires truckys qemu version to start. All software and most Dos games are tested and running on my image on HD2.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Hi,

the Driver issue i had while testing around with different vga drivers and different (inofficial) qemu/bochs vgabios (also cirrus).

I wanted to get the 800x480 to work, but i wasnt sucsessful...

I realized soon, that different bios/driver is running on desktop and not on WM and vice versa.

So for this kind of testing (on faster desktop) i need an desktop running qemu with same architekture like on WM - but you gave me the hint of running it inside the emulated xp... ;-)

Im at Work these days, so less time to test. :-(

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
No you should load my Win98 image via Trukkys qemu version and not inside xp.

Direct start qemu.exe from folder start /storage card/qemu/emul/Win98SE

Open cmdline.txt from folder /storage card/qemu/emul/Win98SE and change "Storage Card" to language of your phone.

I tried to include 800x480 in the images very hard but also no success. Tried tons of drivers, regstry tweaks and powerstrip.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Trying inside of xp wont work for that what i whanted to do... (mein denkfehler :-( )

No need for Powerstrip etc, the driver i posted does definitly support 800x480 (see the documentation) but they also wrote that the hardware (in our case vgabios) must support the resulution...

thats what i whant to try.

since booting up windows on hd2 takes around 5mins and always copying the edited image to sd, i wanted to do this on desktop (faster and much comfortable) ... but no go to have run qemu-arm on desktop :-(

i have even an older version of qemu than yours or truckys, but with this i have also no sucess with different drivers and vgabios to get 800 to 480.

So i think without an vgabios that support this resulution we have no chance to get this to work.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
New Thread for QEMU Discussions

I finaly got around to opening a new Thread. Located in General Windows Mobile Development and Hacking Section.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=891844

Still allot of work left to do but It would be ready for you to move your discussions over there if you want to. A list of available Keyboards is definitely also still missing and I am writing this here just so I don’t forget about it again. :) Let me know of any mistakes or other discrepancies.

Windows Mobile Development and Hacking Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General [TUT] The Quest for the Difinitiv Guide to QEMU for Windows Mobile (Titel might need some adjustment ;) open for ideas)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pablo71:
If anyone could PM me a link to Win98seHD2latest and the right Qemu to run it I would be so grateful. I've been wanting to try this for awhile and finally got a little time off to do it. Thanks so much.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
U got PM

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pablo71:
"Win98se_latest" won't boot (lots of apps version) - qemu runs then dies

[SOLVED:] I JUST NEEDED TO 'SOFT RESET' - BOOTING NOW

---- STUFF BELOW IS FIGURED OUT ALREADY-----

Looking for some guidance:

1.) I ran the '4 install to sd qemu.cab' file and it installed and placed a qemu folder on root of sdcard.

2.) I then 'replaced' that qemu folder by deleting it and copying the contents of the QEMU folder from the extracted .rar file onto the root of sdcard

3.) I went into the QEMU folder on root of sdcard and ran qemu_launcher.exe

4.) It ran and I chose /storage card/qemu/emul/win98se and hit 'launch' button

5.) qemu runs for a second then shuts off

NOTE: I did see 'spreichenkarte' in some command.txt files and emul_command.txt files and an .ini file here and there. After repeated boot failures I tried changing all those to "storage card" still nothing.

ALSO NOTE:in the QEMU_OUT.TXT file I see something about 'not being able to create physical ram space' for the swap file? But a 'swap' folder was created, and I saw an 8mb and a 2mb swap in there I think.

ANOTHER NOTE: In the /storage card/qemu/emul/win98se folder is 'another win98se folder,' so what I see is a double win98se folder: mine goes: /storage card/qemu/emul/win98se/win98se/*.*

LAST NOTE: Before I tried this win98se_latest I tried the HDxp one, and I left the qemuxp folder on root of storage card. Would that interfere?

Thanks a lot for your help members.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
nice have fun ;-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pablo71:
"Portable Apps Work on Nand Win98se, and quick guide to adjust it's theme?

Can I can use 'portable versions of apps' with this nand image of win98se?

Can I import this nand image into pc qemu to adjust the theme? I want to make changes to sliders and X buttons for fingers etc.

I can figure this out myself, but I could resist asking if someone could help me just jump into it. Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
If you mean Programs for USB Sticks without installation:

This should work normally.

You can extrackt the images and use the image inside (win98 nand) also on desktop, after editing you can copy it back back.

I would suggest you to post your questions in our new thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=891844&goto=newpost

because this here is less monitored.

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gileneusz:
up

up :P

any news from qemu development?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zarathustrax:
Everyone moved to the other thread linked on the post right before yours.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brewhoxs:
Is this working on my HTC Diamond P3700?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boban1983:
Is it working on tg01? XP maybe ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Walderstorn:
could u guys help me? when i try to launch emuq it doesnt say anything it doesnt even startup it just shows in emuq out- could not create swap file (203751424 bytes, err=8), retrying without file, Could not CreateFileMapping 8 Could not allocate physical memory

Edit: seems i dont have the iso file even though i installed that emuq from the 1st post, am i right? now how to get an iso -_- damn

Edit2: I had a windows98se original disk and a windows95 but this one doesnt read, so i now converted it to iso so what do i have to do now?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sh1tdown:
give me link pm, please
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
there is already a xp image bootable on Winmo qemu:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=637889

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=891844

Im not sure we tried it on android.

The Win98 image is much faster and much more useable.

The Problem is not to get the guest OS´s installed and configured but any Virtual machine software on mobile device is still on very early state.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fadimck:
any news here
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tozzy2:
I wouldn't hold your breath. There's been no development for ages. I've got my eyes on linux now which is the nearest OS you'll get running on a mobile device. Windows is pie in the sky. Probably won't happen for the next 5 years if that. Even when or if it does, my TG01 will have the equivalent specs as my 13 year old windows 98 PC. Unfortunately, there just aren't enough developers working on this, if with people willing to donate some cash, seems no one is interested.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jopo:
you are right Tozzy2 but make something really working is almost impossible, that was warning quite good and were missing only som drivers and should be fully-fledged device ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tozzy2:
Jopo,

Yes, it's a shame that those drivers can't be found or modified to enable network connectivity. That's what is really lacking in the OS and making it merely a novelty phone app. I love win 95 because it's nostalgic and if ran flawlessly, would love to use it instead of android to be honest. Admittingly, it's old, outdated, slow, but love it because it reminds me of my childhood :D.

Next best thing for now for me is Archos 43 which has ability to boot to linux environment, but haven't got it yet.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trezack:
where to download windows 95
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mat1371:
http://www.vetusware.com
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
i've made a video for you

erik
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilrah:
Nice, but you really need to calibrate your touchscreen ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmmalas:
nice thank you
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bartju94:
You can also try BSB tweaks pinch to zoom in qemu.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
it's not bad calibrate but my finger is bad on the tiny buttons.

and the mouse doesen't go to the place your finger is but you have to drag it

just try its really fun

edit: i can't get other images to work someone??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmmalas:
can someone post instructions how to do it?

also did anyone try different version of windows?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aszu:
Instructions are in one of my previous posts.

I played with this software a bit more today. Looks like QEMU is quite picky when it comes to disk image formats, bootloaders etc. After many tries, using different DOS versions, drivers and so on finally I was able to create perfect combination.

It is fixed 512MB image with DOS 7.1 - this should give plenty of space for any dos-based programs. I tweaked DOS RAM configuration, so there is ample of conventional memory + XMS + EMS memory available, it should be able to handle everything you throw at it :D It also has mouse support.

I placed on it some useful applicators as well:

- Volkov Commander - excellent clone of Norton Commander, makes navigation with 'mouse' much easier!

- Bytemark Nbench - simple but very useful benchmark, according to it QEMU on HD2 achieves almost 100% speed of Pentium 90Mhz in fixed-point and about 30% in floating point operations.

- A few old classic games. Legend of Kyrandia is fully and easily playable with current controls. Others like Settlers 2, Albion (best RPG ever!) or C&C would be perfectly fine if not clumsy mouse control.. Sadly, Betrayal at Krondor doesn't go past the loading screen :(

Obviously you can quickly add new applications to this image using Winimage (that is the whole point anyway).

Just extract files in archive to 'emul' directory in QEMU folder.

DOS image (+ tools) for QEMU
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmmalas:
kudos for legend of Kyrandia,

would you know if anything more than windows 95 can be used

also how do you exit so it does crash anymore
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smeddy:
Wow, as soon as I know I can play Red Alert on this, I'm there!!

Other wishes: Twisted Metal 2, GTA2, and MrBoom (Bomberman clone!)

:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NoSecks:
windows 98 working fine and perfect on my HD2 too

(not only win95)

but u clearly can see how much bigger (longer loading time) win98 takes xD

its even able to run in Brochs'emu w/o any problems. (not only in QEMU)

greez
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DN41:
looks pretty nice :)

just 4 fun, but i think i'll give it a try :P

thanks for your help until now.

DN41

btw: happy weekend :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Star-Lite:
You guys really needs to figure out a way to get a bluetooth mouse to connect to the HD2, would make it 10000x more usefull :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmmalas:
you dont need to answer all the questions:

is seems that the windows image is not show 100% for example start menu is cropped.

how can I get sound to work?

what is the diffrence between Brochs'emu and qemu?

is there a way to make the mouse behave like laptop mouse pad, ie tapping = clicking?

TB 8MB ? what does that mean, I hope not 8mb of ram

does anyone have better keyboard plugin?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
bochs works ok but at my 2 phones without mouse

an ou have to instaal more.

you need to remap buttans what is ****ty
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilrah:
- You need to go fullscreen with the little key that has 4 expanding arrows in the toolbar

- Worked for me, but completely stuttering and slowing everything by 2, so I disabled it. Seems it's too much for it to handle. Maybe it could be better if a suitable driver was installed on the Windows image, search for "qemu drivers" and you should find them.

- Mouse doesn't work in Bochs, and keyboard is even more of a pain

- Not at this point

- Not sure, probably translation buffer for the emulation. memory is the -m parameter.

- No. Use BsB tweaks to zoom into it, still a pain but helps.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
he,

does someone know's a place for decent .img's

btw.

my video stands at the frontpage of wmpowersusers.

with a little luck other sites check them and put it on their page:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oberoth:
can anybody explain me how i can make and TRY an img with Windows XP?

or Windows 98...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
i'm now busy to try it myself with imgburn
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oberoth:
please let me know when you got it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilrah:
I tried installing a "fresh" Win95OSR2 from an install disk I have, to have the hardware detection do its job etc. I'm all set except that the QEMU keyboard doesn't seem to work in the installer, hence I'm stuck where I have to enter the serial number :D

I seem to remember there was a way to enter the serial in a file on the install disk where it would find/use it so that you didn't have to type during installation, or ask for it at first boot, but can't find how anymore...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Win_XP:
This one works on my Universal too, but its slowly, anyway my touchscreen works and the mouse pointer moves :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
img burn doesn't work.

i don't think it's possible to convert iso to img
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarmion:
So can we intall any unix SO (lite version) whit qemu?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oberoth:
how can i say QEMU to use an img file as cd?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
on the bottom of page 2 are download links download the win 95 img

in that file are .txt you need them.

copy to storage card/qemu/emul

in emul_cmdline change the hda to the name of your image.

but does someone knows ho to make a .img of a os?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oberoth:
srry because of off-topic:

when i try to boot the Ubuntu-Setup there comes the following error:

[12.734864] Kernal panic - not syncing: Out of memory and no killalbe processes...

[12.734938]

_
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
i dont think its off topic.

first where did you get the img???

an 2nd maybe in the cmdline set m higher
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oberoth:
i took the CASPAR.IMG from the Desktop version

and i mount the ubuntu.iso as cdrom

i will try to use a larger m
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oberoth:
it goes longer...

but at the end it is too less...

i did it to -m 150

i tried with 256 but then QEMU doesnt start...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erikvario:
maybe we can try android :p