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[Touch CDMA Android Development] JM-PDA:
Mssmison,

That is GREAT news!

Can't wait.

Thank you very much for all your efforts!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Looking forward to the new build......Any progress on bluetooth?

Also, is the full market place going to be built into this version?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
depends on what you mean by full market. all resolution apps for the market was included in the last build, but not paid apps. i guess we'll have to wait to find out... if it is not, just use market enabler (do a google search) to see them.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sak211l:
Does youtube and sprint picture mail links work because I can't see the pictures when I click the picture mail link I get to the website and all I see is the loading icon which never loads
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
i think mssmision said that there is no need for compache or swap in the next release. but i think after you choose your launcher via vogue parts you have to soft reset
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
I had saw that and it seemed to be an HTML file. Is that correct? If so, where is it suppose to go?

Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] preardon:
The html file contains a link to the latest release. It's weird, but it is the right thing.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Thank you!

Any idea when we will see the new update? Very excited for this as I recently went back to my vogue after selling my TP2 to get ready for the Evo. So I need my Vogue to keep me busy for the next couple of months!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BigBadBuu:
Found the first proverbial chink (as far as I'm concerned),

Battery drain is significantly higher than in Myn's donut build. Don't know if this is inherent to Eclair (add'l hardware usage?), or if it's something to do with data/idle/sleep/whatever settings. I know Myn tweaked something in his latest builds to improve battery life, hopefully that can be done here as well?

That said, I'm def. looking forward to further releases.

Cheers,
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
I read this significantly uses resources.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] scouzer:
Battery life can be pretty bad. It doesn't help the Vogue sucks at battery life even on WinMo.

My phone has been unplugged 14 hours and I'm at 32%. The phone has barely been used today. Maybe 50 texts, 5 minutes of calls, 5 minutes of browsing.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] preardon:
Where did you see that? I've used MarketEnabler quite often and haven't noticed any battery issues. Granted, my vogue has never had stellar battery life on any OS.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
must be one of your settings. this has been just as good on battery life for me as myns and other donut builds when settings (background data, gps, etc) are the same.

don't know where you got this, I've seen no effect, and don't know why it would.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dreamsafari:
missing calls

Hi everyone,

Anybody noticed that this build might miss phone calls? I mean, after you turn on the device or reboot it and before you make your first outgoing call, you are very likely to miss calls.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Bang3r:
Re: mssmison's Eclair V7 Updated 03-25

there is s setting in either spare parts or settings or vogue parts, can't remember which, to disable notify of sd card or something like that.

Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
settings\sounds and display
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Any word on the update???
[Touch CDMA Android Development] BigBadBuu:
Well, I can see how disabling background data would equalize battery drain--but that's not necessary in Myn's build. I think he may have tweaked some settings that essentially make disabling data unnecessary.

I'll try to play with these settings to see if that helps. If so, though, I'd hope we could get this build tweaked to where push/etc is as it should be.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I think what you're referring to was when he removed the OTA app. Which of course was causing poor battery performance as it was constantly downloading a 90MB file. Becuase I work from source based builds this isn't an issue.

In terms of battery life that depends what you've got running. I've been playing with some of the livewallpapers lately and there are lots of issues with a few of the market ones causing some heavy battery drain. With the one I'm currently testing it's been 24 hours with data connected, (and lots of xda emails about pms :) ) and I have 33% left.

Also, not using swap/compache changes battery life quite a bit (no longer included in my build).

Overclocking also reduces battery life.

Depening how many 'push' apps you've got running, ie twitter, gmail, gtalk, email, xda app, market etc. etc. etc.

EDIT** Oh and new builds looking great, if everything goes to plan it will be up today :) **
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
WooHoo!!!!! Very Excited! Thanks for all of your hard work! Now I will be checking this site all day!!!!!!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Sounds great, any words about camera?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] scouzer:
Excited for the new build!

I notice with these builds they generally make task killers obsolete. It kills the task when you return to the home screen. Is there a way to keep certain apps in memory--messaging in specific?

Also I noticed in Spare Parts setting the end key behaviour does not work. I'd rather my end key takes me home then sleep, but this setting doesn't work. Any fixes?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Nope, to the spare parts issue, though you can just press the camera button for 2 seconds (or whatever it is) to return home.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] scouzer:
Ah too bad. I knew about the camera thing but I find it a bit awkward ergonomically. Not a big deal though!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kr4zyc1d:
What all is included or changing in this build? I came across this today and was very curious/excited. Changelog? and what version? 1.6, 2.1? Thanks everyone!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
It is a 2.1 build. That is what makes it so exciting!

Change log seems to be a secret right now but we will hopefully find out soon enough.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tsrich:
Font size

How is the font size on this ROM compared to Myn's? Any bigger? I have problems with the small fonts in general, esp since we can't adjust the size upwards. Is it the same on the eclair builds?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
New version is posted.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kr4zyc1d:
AWESOME!!! Where will the post be? Front page?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
does youtube still not work?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
I'm sure someone will find out soon if they try the build.

What is the best way to install this? System to NAND and Data to ext2? I'm just asking to be sure, when I tried V7 it was about 5 fps slower than Donut in NeoCore.

edit: It seems there has been some updating of the text in the installer. Options for installing are NAND, SDCard Partition, then ext2 file. Well that's kinda confusing, since the partitions are ext2 and the file would be installed to the fat32 partition, not ext2. I'm installing system on NAND and data on the second choice, which I'm hoping means one of the ext2 partitions on my SDCard.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Umm, it's eclair, of course it's a little slower on neocore :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
Please answer the question don't speak sarcastically. I am on firstboot right now, your Vogue Parts app is not in the app tray yet? And where is the status bar at the top? I feel naked without it! I flashed the 320x480 but how do I set the system to use this res?

edit: Status bar is hidden under settings for the helix launcher.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
wait... there is no status bar? thats one of the things i loved about android was the notification bar. i have no touch screen as of right now so i cant install this yet so i apologise for the questions :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
It is disabled upon first boot. But you enable it by clicking menu > configure from the main screen and disabling the full screen setting of the helix launcher.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
oh ok. thanks :) yeah i just tried and i cant do anything without literally touching the android :(
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sak211l:
To anybody having a issue with the phone connecting and disconnecting from there PC when using the usb cord let it sit for a couple of minutes and it will stay connected I had the same issue
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Not being sarcastic, I being blunt there's a difference :) This build is designed for QVGA only, and the vogue parts app is not included.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] scouzer:
Wait, I never thought to ask. Which NBH am I supposed to use?

voguimg-240x320-eclair-06-04-10.nbh

voguimg-240x320-06-04-10.nbh

I'm guessing eclair but all the guides say just use the basic voguimg so I thought I'd ask. I'm actually running V7 on the non-eclair nbh right now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
The first one, voguimg-240x320-eclair-06-04-10.nbh. That's the one you must use for this build. Thanks mssmison!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
Technically they both function. The ones labeled 'eclair' have the stuff required for 3d graphics, the non-eclair ones have it enabled for donut. So if you used the wrong one with this build the hardware accelerated graphics wouldn't work, but everything else should.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
You can also creat an nbh for both- donut and eclair. In the menuconfig you have to make sure that both drivers are selected (short time ago dzo added this)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] scouzer:
Ack, HTC Touch Input was removed? :(

The new SMS app is broken for me. The text is invisible.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] margosmark:
I also get a force close for voice search, on boot, and whenever I try to load the app. But great build.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
As per the instructions, go into the options for the sms app to set it up, colors of txt, font size, layout etc.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
force close? or not responding with the option to wait? I'll admit I didn't actually try the voice search app, though non of my testers reported an error..

If it's an issue I'll look into fixing it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] scouzer:
Oh. I saw:

Updated messaging app, check settings within app to change settings, now full screen.

But that's pretty vague. Maybe amend to include the word colour?

Thanks mssmison your roms are the bomb
[Touch CDMA Android Development] margosmark:
Nope no wait option just a force close, not a big issue for me, but figured I would report it, the voice keyboard works though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] casualonejp:
any chance of getting this in .tar and not .rar format. I know the .tar is within the .rar but I am at work and have no .rar decompressor software. Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] crackeyes:
how to change screen size

I have my phone to boot to 320x480 so when i boot into it is much much bigger resoultion. You use o have to go to a vouge parts and switch it there but i can not find the option
[Touch CDMA Android Development] margosmark:
This is a QVGA build 240x320 as far as I know.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
here you go man. uploaded just the tar to mediafire http://www.mediafire.com/?lkzmygjmdta
[Touch CDMA Android Development] crackeyes:
Thanks must have over looked that Ill change my default.txt to reflect that
[Touch CDMA Android Development] casualonejp:
as luck would have it, our firewall blocks mediafire! I hate to be a pain, but, any chance on getting this elsewhere?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] joelmassee:
I have the same issue at work. Can you download it to your phone? I worked for me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] casualonejp:
Negative as my service cuts out and it keeps corrupting the file.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] margosmark:
Have access to google apps, I uploaded the tar to my google docs page

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0ByU8tKLWy1mBM2Y2NWY2ZWYtYWRjOS00N2ZjLTlhZDQtYjBkNjRhMzRjZTVj&hl=en
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
loving the build.

really missing apps2sd. also missing the setting to keep home app in memory. lastly, would love to have the default launcher back (with helix, which I like, it seems to take a much longer time to open up the phone app; noted this in v7, and stuck with the default launcher without a problem. now I don't have that option anymore).

Thanks mssmison.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Ive got a standard launcher build with no notifcation bar as well. I'll possibly include an update later.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
thx mssmison
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tsrich:
Great look and feel

This build has a great look and feel to it. It's the first eclair build I've tried.

It is quite a bit slower for me than Myn's builds. I'm running NAND installs of both.

Also, I'm getting the 'force close' messages at startup and coming out of sleep everytime, plus when I start a lot of applications.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
so no apps2sd/youtube/camera/keep home in memory/320x480? sounds like the only difference between eclair and donut is live wallpapers and less functionality? i'll just have to try it when i get my screen fixed i guess
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
Different lockscreen.

More 3D support.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tsrich:
Yes, I did wipe the data
[Touch CDMA Android Development] daganb:
This is a good time to ask, I will be running this build same as the previous, that being Haret / SD. What I have been doing is downloading the most up to date zimage (1.5mb) making sure its name is "zImage" and dropping it in my root / haret directory. Sleep / standby works fine however I see a laggyness in games that was not happening in 1.5 myn's build. I am almost positive that I am using a non eclair zimage, what do I do / use to get a true eclair zimage working with this build / haret?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
download the latest zimage from here. If it doesnt work I dont know what to tell you

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] loserskater:
add "hw3d.version=1" to your default.txt. it defaults to 0 (which is donut) if nothing is there.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Stellarex:
anyone have more screens of this build. I was thinking of switching from donut to eclair
[Touch CDMA Android Development] daganb:
No 320x480 is a pretty big deal for me imho, it doesn't have to be supported, but the ability to switch over to it would be appreciated.

320x480 always looked fine to me, I never understood everyone pushing qvga to the point that we had to hack the market to show all apps.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
i know right. i cant use this build cause i cant stand 240x320. nothing fits. 320x480 is perfect for me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dreamsafari:
Hi tatnai,

I'm having the same problem as you do. Do you have any idea on getting rid of the helix launcher? thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
You can try these two things...

Open androidinstall.tar with 7-zip. Edit build.prop in /system

Changing lcd density to 110 in 240x320 makes some app fit a little better.

or

Change lcd density to 160 and try running 320x480.

Then reinstall... I haven't tried it with v8 but I used density 110 with 240x320 with v7 and density 160 with 320x428
[Touch CDMA Android Development] robuser007:
I find this build very bad actually.I can't send messages using the default messenger(it force closes),... (I installed twice after repartitioning).

Wifi doesn't work with the kaiser patch (You'll propably need alll 3 patches).

I'm back to polymod 2.1d.

Both are still slow (using gmail tales 4-5sec at least f.e.).
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Try the attached update. It brings Wifi to life on my Kaiser.

You can merge those files into androidinstall.rar if you want to and Wifi will work out-of-the-box after a clean install. That's what I've done.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I'm having serious issues with software that uses the GPS with this build (and build V7) on my Kaiser.

For example "GPS Test 1.1.6" (and other versions). If I start it and press menu and the settings (or even "about") the screen goes black and Android seems to reboot (not the whole phone if you know what I mean).

Google Maps seems more stable but several other GPS softwares does the same at some points.

I've tried both V7 and V8. NAND, ext2, SD-card installations. LCD density 110, 120 and even 320x480 and density 160. It never ever works... It's totally reproducable as I have never even once been able to bring up the settings in "GPS Test".

I've tried different kernels, currently running my own compiled kernel with the latest sources from DZO. Same kernel on Polymod 2.1g does not have this issue at all.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] levanvy83:
Is V8 with OpenEClair 3.0?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
quick fix: install this update which will give a stand alone spare parts with option for home in memory. does not help with slow phone loading.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dreamsafari:
Thanks tatnai, it works:)

For the phone loading, i just modified the build by replacing helix launcher with original launcher.apk and the phone is now loading much faster.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
yeah, i've been lazy, going to pull it now and do that myself. really like helix a lot, that is the only problem i've had with it.

incidentally, starting to enjoy the "full screen" option of helix too. i see the notif bar every time I turn the phone on, and when I'm in programs, so i don't miss anything. I wish we could have helix AND fast loading of the phone, I wonder what it is about third party launchers that cause this (also tried "launcher+ beta" from market, had same problem)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] detusueno:
Just installed this via NAND. I haven't used my vogue in a long while so I'm kind of confused on how to calibrate the screen. I've tried the calibration app but it doesn't seem to work right. Once saved it's way higher than it should be.. Is their another way?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
sounds like you need to do the hvga convert in vogue tools first. change the system to r\w first also in vogue tools.

EDIT: i was thinking of ver. 7. That my not be a choice anymore. sorry.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] detusueno:
Thanks but nevermind, i just rebooted and that solved the issues with the calibration app. Works fine now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
In version 7, I was having those calibration issues because everything was tiny and I hadent done the hvga convert yet. That was only reason i said that sorry man. Im glad a reboot fixed it for you. Version 8 is only qvga so that shouldnt be an issue anymore.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dreamsafari:
i'm using a 3rd party dialer called Lianyun dialer with moderate loading speed. the problem is that it's written in chinese...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
ok just to get this straightend out. mssmision said its made for qvga, but does that mean you cant use it in hvga? has anyone tried it?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
True. Its right in the first post, I missed it too. QVGA only. I ran it with the 480 nbh and everything was tiny.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] daganb:
I took some advice posted to my original question about 320x480 and did this

"Open androidinstall.tar with 7-zip. Edit build.prop in /system

Change lcd density to 160 and try running 320x480."

Running with default.txt set to 320x480

Running fine!

This build is snappy and pretty decent so far, I do miss launcher2 tho :/

the previous build had a lot of little toys and whatnot that I liked that this version lacks, the dialer that v7 used was very cool with a animated background and is the first that comes to mind.

I'll stick with this build now that 320x480 is running, would love to figure out how to throw a overclock on my phone now.

One day we will get working stereo A2DP bluetooth, then I can finally stop running off of HARET.

Also I have all my music in .wma format, these eclair builds have yet to be able to play them, however renaming a .wma file to .mp3 it will play just fine, not really important until a2dp is working but it's little things that I want to learn more about, I'm still very green to all of this.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Try changing LCD density in /system/build.prop to 160, that should do it. You may need to do it in the androidinstall.tar (use 7-zip) and reinstall. That is, if you really want to run in HVGA.

EDIT: The post above says the same thing... Didn't scroll down or perhaps it was posted after I clicked the "quote" button.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Shidell:
Anyone else having difficulty with messaging? The screen is entirely black, which makes reading messages impossible.

?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cyburke:
your warm donut screenshots look great btw... :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tommywoods:
everything runs well except it takes so long to open the dialer, even Hero is faster... the idea of fullscreen is brilliant, it makes the QVGA looks perfect on my Kaiser, but sometimes the black screen makes me wonder if there is nothing in the subsidiary or just running a little bit slow
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jdemar:
Did you check the settings for the font color?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Shidell:
That was it, thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] br125:
edit: already answered..
[Touch CDMA Android Development] DmK75:
I installed v8 to SD.

Added hw3d.version=1 into default.txt, but many games crashes as diagonal distortion \\\\\\.

On Warm Donut these games worked.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dgege:
+1

I would love to overclock my android, but I can't fid how to (I did search to no avail :( )
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
myn will be coming out with his oc/lcd app soon. be patient guys :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dgege:
Cool. I'm just curious however to know how ppl do it now, without this app?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
im not 100% sure, but i think there isnt a way to overclock untill the app comes out. it will be soon though, i promise :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] dgege:
Ok, can't wait! :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
the phone app and contacts loading slowly seems related to the launcher. every third party launcher i've tried has this problem. using the stock launcher solves this problem, significantly reducing phone load time. run the attached update, and then select "home" launcher when the dialog pops up (unzip it, rename to androidupdate.tar, and use replimenu to update)

happens to me too - don't know if it is related to resolution, they may be made for higher resolutions. I don't think it is graphics acceleration related because neocore and armadillo roll work just fine.

anyone running v8 and 320x480, can you try rolling thunder 2 in market, see if it works for you?

also see my earlier post for a spare parts update with keep home app in memory setting. these together have v8 sailing smooth for me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] DmK75:
tatnai,

I sure this errors in hw3d acceleration on Eclair.

Because if i remove hw3d.version=1 these games (Raging Thunder 1, Eggz, Tiki Towers and other landscape) working without distortion.

But very slow.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] littlez:
can you or somebody upload to another place?

we can not reach mediafire.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sak211l:
hows getting video and sprint picture mail links to work I can get to the site to view the pic but it just keeps loading but never shows pic