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[Windows Mobile Software Development] mobiler:
Need to know before making payment

I am also very interested in paying for the hebrew, but I have installed the hebrew on my HD2 about a month ago and some key features were not working. I am interested in knowing if these are working now. If so I am willing to donate 200 nis since I will need to install on 3 machines.

- The number one deal breaker, the SMS when I am looking in the history is reversed. Only the words are. It makes some sentences really difficult to understand, especially if they have commas or other punctionation marks. For example : "bo nedaber baerev" appears in the history as 'baerev nedaber bo" (Let's talk tonight - tonight let's talk). In long sentences with commans and dots it's very irritating. (This is with HTC Messages 1.5). Please don't tell me to use the default WM one cause it's ugly as hell.

- Editing hebrew in SMS, when I type in an SMS it looks ok on the screen, but suppose I noticed that I made a typo and need to go back to change a letter, add space or whatever, it all gets messed up and it's impossible to make corrections, other than deleting the whole SMS and typing it all from the beginning.

- It's not possible to scroll down with hebrew alphabet in the contacts app. Only A-Z appear there. In the iPhone for example it's so intuitive you can scroll to the hebrew letter you want the last names that begin with.

- I noticed quick dialing does not work with the light version. I wouldn't want all my interface to be in Hebrew, I prefer the 'Hebrew Enabled' mode when all menus stay in English, is there a way to make it work that way? Or must I change all the internface to Hebrew installing the full version ?

I have HD2 with Stock ROM 1.66.405.2 WWE.

Please tell me the best way. Should I install the full hebrew version? Would you recommend putting a different ROM like the Energy?

Please reply ASAP. As I need 3 licensed immediately. If it works for your HD Mini it should work for the HD2.

UPDATE: I didn't want to postpone it as I need the software so I just donated 250 NIS. Please give me a link to where I can download the software and would appreciate if you could answer the issues I asked about down here. Not sure if would be better to upgrade the ROM also and if only the full version supports the dialer.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
I have been reading your post, for now there is still no fix for the NEW massage client.

Because it is a problem with Unicode fit, it also happens in RTL Languages like Hebrew, Arabic and CHT.

I still working to fix it...

I have TouchPro2 as you have read.

Installed with NRGZ MaxSence 7 jun.

For me, the Smart dialer is working, some say no, and i do not have a way to check it for them (do not have HD2).

Also, there is problems in mail out box reading, i am working on that, too.

I have some methods...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] KukurikU:
i just don't get it :confused:.

over 3 month passed since the launch of your hebrew support and still no version is 100% working. not only that your claims of "working version" are in contradiction with the huge number of users complaining but you also started kind of blackmail and fond raising campaign and on top of it you are advertising you (incomplete) creation in other forums http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=700715.

nobody says you don't deserve some compensation for the time you are investing but from this to being offended by 10 $ donations is a long way.

most of the developers here are doing it very well with 10,5$ and even less. this is not marketplace! this is a forum where 99% of the development is shared free! in all my years in this forum i had never met a developer to push so hard and shamelessly for money

before

he even finished the job.

you know what? you want to make money? OK. first finish a

complete, 100%

working version and than start selling it. meanwhile everybody here is beta-testing for you and imho i wasn't able to find any serious e improvement made by you, meaning that they are doing it for free and...... in vain. all you have to say is "for me is working"! :rolleyes: this is what i call "hutzpa"!

i am really curious to see how things are going to evolve from now on because there are ppl here willing to pay you very well for finishing your project and i suspect you are not capable of doing it (i hope i am wrong). what excuse are you going to make now that money is no more an issue?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] lathera:
first mate relax

second if you dont want to pay dont

third from where im standing it dose work for the defult manila versions that came with your device i personaly dont use manila and flash the first titanium only rom i can find as such you are not limited by htc's buggy software...

and have full suport for typing and reading in allmost all applications that suport unicode

forth at least his trying and for now the results are very good
[Windows Mobile Software Development] KukurikU:
i am relaxed. the post above shows it.

second, for the record, i do not need this localization. on my HD2, after flashing (a non HTC messaging ROM) i am using one single cab file that allow me to read and write in hebrew RTL in all my apps. my menus and my contacts are in english so i do not need the hebrew smart dialing. i am not interested in this or any other localization so, i am neutral and paying or not paying is not an issue for me. for yr info, in last year i donated at least 100 euro to different developers in the forum.

i am only a spectator in this thread and i do not like what i am seeing. hope that ppl that paid in advance are not going to regret it. that's all...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] lathera:
same here mate
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
So, now you get it?

First you have to relax...

Than i will talk to you...

I am talking on people donate 5 or 10 NIS!!!!! NOT $$$$ !!!!!

and fluid my PM with 10 mails EACH!! (Its about 100 mails a DAY!!).

I can not WORK at that situation.

Development going slowly because i am a STUDENT of Electrical Engineering working ALONE on that, you get that?

I am not Company as EYRON, 17 Software engineers FULL TIME JOB!!

You got that, too?

I DO NOT have all the devices describe at this FORUM, so I CAN NOT estimate how it WILL WORKS on each DEVICE!

For my device, TP2, and a friend, HD mini it is working!

I also, have satisfy people, that get what they want a vanish, let them TALK TOO!!

If you think you so smart, open a project yourself and DO THE JOB!

If you NOT, leave it... And let me do my JOB!

If you are not satisfy, go to BUY EYRON Hebrew in 250 NIS and find how much problems they have...

I need to remind you, they DID NOT write Hebrew FOR WM 6.5.X YET!

And, they are starting, now, because the HD mini.

The have MORE PROBLEMS than I have, because i have little more experience, on that.

I know some people inside Microsoft WM development (They are about 23 Software Engineers) , they develop new construction of module for WM every 2 WEEKS!

It means, EVERY 2 WEEKS I NEED TO TRANSLATE FROM THE START!

Sometimes, I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME FOR IT.

Sometimes, I do not follow what the renew, and the OLD ver will NOT WORK on the new ver, sometimes only half working.

So, thats what some of you experience, if you flash junks, and flash every DAY!

So, now you get it?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] KukurikU:
allow me to quote myself:

i think you misunderstood me.

read again my first post and pay attention. my only complain is that you are asking for payment when you didn't yet complete the project. nobody cares why you didn't finish it.

take it from another electrical engineer: as long as you are not asking for money, money, money, ppl have no right (legally speaking) to demand results. you don't like the pressure? get used with it, all over the world there are "nudnicks". you are untitled to close the thread until you'll finish the project.

the moment you start pushing and demanding donations they "owe" you, as somebody already said here and they don't give a damn why you didn't do it (exams, busy with another project, sick, just married, etc:p).

take my

friendly

advice, finish the job and then ask for money.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
You do not like what you see, SO DO NOT BE HERE!

No one make you be here...

You may go as you came.

And as i said, i start to ask for money AT THE TIME I HANDEL SPECIAL REQUESTS.

Believe, me, i know what is pressure, YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND the project is done.

There are free version, use it freely, PROBLEMS on your OWN!

That it, live with it...

Donation, if you feel that the problem helped you.

Special Requests, i own to ask for money.

I have also, private jobs for people over here, for special devices, manila or other requests.

I have been told you the situation, you do not care, so i do not care about what you have to say.

A little advice from me:

Get to know the people and situation before judge them!

I do NOT like your attitude, and how you handle things.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bnm7bnm:
i agree with Mr KukurikU specially that this is not something developed by the man who asks the pay its mobidiv arabizer with changed font from arab to hebrew...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
I know you have little Knowledge about programming , and it is NOT only ARBIZER, also, writing that i have added and changed inside.

ALL MUI and manila files that i have translated and fit to WM6.5.5 (i know you will say EYRON, so EYRON just now have Hebrew for WM6.5.5 because HD mini).

I used to have some respect to you...

I do not think i even have to answer you, shame on you...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Roadrunner100:
Hi Kukuriku,

While I fully agree with your points made, and your clear attempt at explaining xda's ethics, I think that this is heading in the direction of 'grinding water' loop.

May I suggest you let this fizzle out at this point, assume that you have led the horse to the water....

Regards....
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ys222:
Israeli's ....

first I'd like to support this post owner for his great work!

second I'd like to say that only in Israeli posts - we can see such responses that are not professional - but only "care" about "legal" issues.

if someone have something to say - say it in privet, no one need to see your "concern" in public (and I'm sure that you probably have interest to sabotage in that project, probably due to the fact that you are relating to one of the "official" Hebrew development companies).

It is a shame that we are the last language that doesn't have "build in" support in WM, only due to the fact that the current minor software companies control this market.

I support you and your work - keep moving , and ignore/ delete all the stupid people that are trying to stop you.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] KukurikU:
LOL! on the contrary. i encouraged him to finish the project. stop the B.S. about "controlling the market"! nobody is forbidding you to make or use whatever you want. the problem is that's not easy to be done and i do not think somebody has did it 100%. not even the "official" companies.

the "stupid" part is completely uncalled and unnecessary.

now seriously nobody here reads what i wrote? maybe your English is not so good..read again! I asked him first to finish the project and only than to start selling or demanding "donations". that's all. why are u attacking me? i am no "aid flotilla" and i am not Turkish!! :D

good luck! peace!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gourary:
hebrew compatible with hd2

Hey raz.

After trying your Hebrew with all kinds of hd2 rom, there is my report.

1)	on miri's rom v.16 that can be found here - http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1666

light version:

no smart dialing - there isn't any Hebrew letter on the dial pad.

htc messaging (I think it’s the new version) shows the message backwards

full version:

for some reason, the quick gps is showing a blank screen after the full Hebrew installation.

Htc messaging – same problem as the light version.

2)	Energy rom that can be found here - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=591784

light version:

no smart dialing

full version:

no smart dialing (perhaps he's using another version of dial pad?)

quick GPS is showing a blank page

3) about the Hebrew keyboard - the rhodium keyboard is working but you cannot switch between Hebrew and English with "ABC" button. you need to change the keyboard language by changing the keyboard itself (i hope that the explanation was understandable)

you once said:

so how can i help to make it work?

have a great day and "toda merosh" :)

p.s.

the attached file is the quick gps screen
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mikelt89:
Any update on the sms problem? I have the light version and sms display hebrew opposite.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mobiler:
I would like to support Raz for his Hebrew.

I needed to install it on my own HD2, my wife's and my friend's, total 3 devices so I paid 100 nis for each for a total of 300 nis. I have tried many Hebrews. I don't know which versions any of you guys tried.

Aftedr I paid I was given an Hebrew version that works the closest to perfect that I have seen in any Hebrew program available. I am using HD2 with Energy ROM and for Keyboard i use the FingerKeyboard with Hebrew layout. I use the LIGHT version on my device and my friend is using the FULL version. I am very content with the customized version I received from the programmer. My LIGHT version works almost almost perfect besides negligble issues. It's not 100% pefrect, but neither is Eyron and the other which charge 3 times more for their Hebrew. It is by far the best I found.

I regret Israelis are cheapies. 98% don't want to pay for a working solution. The programmer of this Hebrew began by just asking donations, nothing mandatory, however he received just several donations which is a joke. Being that the 'Donations' things didn't work he wanted to charge for the Hebrew. Israeli will almost never donate, unlike Americans or Europeans that support developers much more. Not saying all Israelis are the same, but most wouldn't.

I would say 100 nis is a fair price. This is not a software that costs hundreds or thousands of dollars. This is an Hebrew software made by just one guy all by himself, not any sort of company. Therefore, I think paying him is for a good cause, no one's going to be rich from that, but as a programmer myself I know how many hours such things require. I hope he will continue the development.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gourary:
i wanted to know if the smart dialing is working for the energy rom.

and what about the quick gps screen? - do you have a problem with that?

have a great week

btw, i also donate 100 nis.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kain144000:
If you're still working on this project (lite, specifically)...

@TheAgent1982 ... The only bugs that I've noticed since the 30/04/10 lite version release that could use some attention are...

tmail input font size is decreased

text is distorted when scrolling left and right using Edit function of Total Commander

Personally, I find the latter to be more pressing of an issue to fix, as I'm sure there're a lot of ppl editing .reg files with Total Commander, too, on xda.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] maximono:
On my HD2 with energy rom smart dialing didn't work. not in the light nor the full version..
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
If i will have enouth donation, i will buy HTC HD2 and solve a lots of problem that you have on your device, and i do not see on my Touch Pro2.

So, you can see that the donation will take part for more exploration and learning and problem fixing, so eventually it will help to the community !

I mast say, that for every one that donate, will get updates at his PM for his device as long as they come (he also, can ask on my PM if they are available - Only for people that donated).

:cool:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] relko:
Hebrew on a recently purchased TP2

Hey all!

First of all, this is my first post ever here and I'm real happy to see such an active community.

To Raz and everyone else who contributes, you guys are awesome :)

Now let's get to business...

I've recently purchased an HTC Touch Pro 2, and have been trying to get hebrew to work on it but with no success so far.

I've tried:

HebrewEnabled_Pro2_v1.0.zip (From the HTC Addicts site) - cprog.exe has an error when the device boots, and sense gets stuck launching.

Then I tried the RazSofTech hebrew, but again sense gets stuck. When I disable sense and use the classic home screen I can't access contacts or phone mode.

Windows Mobile 6.5 Pro

OS: CE OS 5.2.21887 (Build 21887.5.0.86)

Manila: 2.5.20121225.0

Rom: 2.07.707.1 (80303) WWE

Rom date: 02/04/10

Is this a known issue?

Is there any sort of fix?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] FIDO23:
Today Donation Is double the Pleasure!

why you may ask,

Well, first because when you donate to something you like out of free will or in order to support something you feel good about yourself.

second, when that something grows and evolves to somehing better with time you feel like you are a part of the success.

well today my friends - i am part of the success :-)

I saw the nice new energy rom for xperia and wanted to try it out.

decided to ask Raz in pm if there is an updated version to people who donated.

I asked for the light version and got the full(personally i prefer the English menus).

smart dialing doesn't work for me on xperia either(don't care - transformed all my contacts to English a year ago when i bought the xperia).

and i don't care much about minor sms problems or display issues.

But I'll tel you what does work - finally!!!

the Hebrew inside the details of my precious outlook items.

all my task details, calendar details and extra info on contacts i have put in there for so long is finally readable on my device - after almost a full year of suffering. and best part is, it is also editable - i can finally write in those extra fields of info and it won't become gibberish upon sync - plain Hebrew, just as i wrote it down on my experia.

I have asked about that problem all over including this thread and was always left with no answer, that is up until today.

RAZ - thank you for proving it is possible to fix that most annoying bug ever.

don't know how you did it but you r a genius.

now i am really happy with my device and i don't need a new one.

Aekemap with my own written layout for the hardware keyboard.

Finger keyboard with my hebrew layout for it.

and now hebrew that works with all outlook items.

It feels like i have the best device ever - with the interface i always wanted and that works fully with hebrew.

And another thing...this XDA thing is great, if i wouldn't have found it i would probably give my experia to the fish in the ocean very soon after buying it out of frustration.

It is a great hardware but, if it wasn't for all the great developers here and projects like aekeymap finger keyboard raz hebrew and the great rom cookers like energy i don't think I could ever make the most out of my device.

I'll spare some of you the questions - raz is not paying me to write anything nor is energy or anyone else from XDA. I'm just happy all the forum hours finally paid off, all the searching and installing and rom switching and scraping some coating from the device to get amazing reception.

Happy, i'm so happy, hmm hmm hmm hmmm hmm hmmmmmmmmm.

Raz - keep up this amazing project.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] palvik:
Hey!... What happened with the project?

Which companies have exclusive rights on Hebrew? ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chompy18:
Sounds more like "I couldn't handle the pressure, I don't know how to make everything work as my paying customers expect me to, this is a good way to bail out on them"...

Good thing I didn't pay..
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wiggle09:
Just bought my self HTC TD2. What a shame.

What bad timing, I was just looking for a nice solution for my new touch diamond2.

The light version suited me perfectly.

can anybody please please send me a copy of Razsoftech light version for windows 6.5?

this is my address: ***********************************

thanx in advance,

w******e
[Windows Mobile Software Development] lathera:
eyron idiots....
[Windows Mobile Software Development] lathera:
also im thinking he shuld have left this hole thing as a free project.... thats why they closed in on him... cos he asked money.... thats my personal opinion sence i dont know what happened exsactly with raz and to big brothers that get payed to do this crap...

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PS:

btw raz nicely done with the lite version

i think most pepole here needed that version only...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] wiggle09:
anyone? please...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] palvik:
eyron? who the f#ck is eyron? I don't believe they have the right to demand for termination of such project...

Agent, speak to a lawer... or just move your project abroad :) Your translation is 100 times better than eyron's slow crap
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dardasatla:
well...the rumor is that you had to shut down the operation because you stole some code from pdac and you ask for money ..not donation, but money!

i think the other companies didn't mind that you stole some codes from them but i think that when you started to ask for money you really cross some line with them...but again!!

this is just a rumor that run here...no solid fact.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
My mistake, it comes without manila, because there are variety Kind of Manila or users without Manila...

I have translated Manila 2.5 for all versions, you may try it...

Good Luck!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Tourist!:
THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU ! GREAT ! KOL HA'KAVOD !

question: both "light" and "full" versions have smart dialing ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] alex70b:
Great news for hebrew users.

TheAgent1982,you and who ever helped to produce this are great men.:cool:

You can't realize how much i've waited for a hebrew OS and Manila.

You have made my entire week.

Didn't try it yet on my HD2,and i hope it works allright.

I'm on MIRI's 23541 version,i saw that the full version is for 6.5 only,when will you release the 6.5.x version ?

I'm using the MOBIDIV HD2_HEB file for hebrew support and a manila translation from HTC Addicts,do i need to uninstall them first before installing your files ?

Thank you very much man X 10.:)

GREAT WORK GUYS.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] may_east:
Thanks.

the phone is on it's way to HKG for repair/replacement, but i will try it next week when it returns !
[Windows Mobile Software Development] shiransagiv:
very nice

i didnt try but nice work

could u do te same for manila 2.1?

i use tp and using heb for hd2 it writing from rtl

if u want i can uplod the heb

happy if u could translate the 2.1

tnx

shiran
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
Thank You

Thank you!

You will have to start from fresh (Uninstall Previous Version or Hard-Reset).

The Manila translate form HTCAddicts, i have written :) so, if you are using Manila 2.5, install, the new one post here (after Uninstalling the Older).

Good Luck!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
I will try, if i will have more time :( I am student...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
"smart dialing", what do you mean?

Name select or voice activate?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
For now NOT WORKING on wm6.5.x reason, issues with the dialer.

I am working on it, not an easy work...

Also, i am a student, and do not have enough time :(