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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rajuabju:
Let me state that I have tried in the last couple of days the various flavors of NRG's roms (Sense 2.1 vs 2.5), both 6.5 and 6.5.x, as well as Sergio's and some other roms.

After a number of people in various threads said that Sense 2.5 now runs almost as smoothly as Sense 2.1, I decided to give it a try for the first time in about 6-7 months.

NO WAY.

Anyone claiming that sense 2.5 runs as fast, smoothly or is as responsive as Sense 2.1 on a Rhodium is living in fantasy land. Its not even close. Its bitterly clear that Sense 2.5 is designed to run on 1ghz Snapdragon processors.

Is Sense 2.5 more visually appealing? ABSOLUTELY. For anyone who prefers 'eye candy' as their #1 requirement, I highly recommend you guys try NRG's Sense 2.5 ROM's. All the landscape issues of past months have pretty much been resolved, the icons, animations, etc look fantastic.

But its also a whole lot slower. Just switching between tabs causes lag, not to mention loading apps, emails, txt msgs, etc. It it horrific? No. But is it noticeably slower than Sense 2.1? Yea, for me it was without a doubt.

As for the the other Sense 2.5 ROM's... they all look great as well, both the 6.5 and 6.5.x versions. But in each and every instance, the phone was sluggish with some level of frequency.

I think its too bad that so many chefs are now cooking exclusively with Sense 2.5 ... our phones just cant handle the added resource requirements the way HD2's can.

So for now, I will continue to stick with Sense 2.1 rom's, always based on 6.5 since I hate the buttons at the bottom nonsense. But thats just me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] intruda119:
im with you buddy. I hate the buttons on the bottom stuff and all I wanted from sense 2.5 was the full screen. everything else is just a waste for daily use. To much lag from all the extra graphics.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Agree, 2.1 is the best for Rhodium as for performance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
depends on the build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slimslim:
True. Me too, I was so tempted to flash the new eyecandy sense, but reading the threads, i've noticed only people that flash their phones 3 times a week (as a hobby or just for trying new stuff) are happy with it. I want more functionality, so I thought is not a good idea, now I see is not only me :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dougstoner:
I'm going to have to chime in and agree with you guys. I love the look and feel of 2.5, but it is too sluggish for me. I don't mean to dis the chef's here that spend a LOT of time so that we can have it, it's just that our processors aren't quite enough to handle the load. I've flashed just about every sense 2.5 here, and they are all quite slower than 2.1.

Oh, and I'm with you guys on the bottom buttons. IMO it just looks ugly, and seems unstable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lennyz1988:
Yes, it's a little bit slower. But there has been a great speed improvement compared to the past. And I believe that the advantages still outweigh the disadvantages. I really don't want to go back to sense 2.1. Yes it's faster, but the way 2.5 looks and works is a great improvement.

And for the comparison between 6.5 and 6.5.X, if you like to have a small X button at the top then stick with 6.5. But if you like to use the phone without a stylus then the bottom buttons are really great. You can press the buttons faster so I think you just need to get used to it ;)

For me 6.5.X with sense 2.5 is the best combo :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fastguebo:
2.1 all the way

the only difference i see in 2.5 is music tab but basically they're almost the same, 2.5 gives you less icon tab if you want more you have modified and that make it slower and them there's landscape for more they do to it its not perfect. common guy just add what you like from 2.5 to 2.1 and that would make a perfect rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
2.5 has every tab redone to be more efficient. some builds even have the twitter client, document viewer, ebook reader, and foot prints. some builds, like the 2011 are made for this hardware and work really well. its up to what you like. and 2.1 will probably always be faster. but i like features. if you prefer 2.1, by all means use that instead. im not going to try and convert anybody to 2.5 like a mormon going door to door.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] intruda119:
Like the above poster mentioned if your flashing often then I think that everything is snappy. I had so many crashing/freezing problems when 2.5 was cooked in. Everything disappeared when I flashed e2 att rom to my tilt 2 or if I used titanium. I love flashy stuff myself but at the end of the day I need something thats reliable. I want the device waiting on my input not the other way around.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hoss_n2:
and what about the official upgrade with sense 2.5 that tp2 got is it fast like on hd2 or still slow
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ohyeahar:
I had high hopes when I heard about the official ROM with Sense 2.5...but it just wasn't meant to be. To me, it's slow.

Having gone back to stock WinMo 6.1 ROM, the performance was like night and day...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] intruda119:
Im very interested in that also. Aren't most of the 2.5 manila that installed in most roms from other devices thats tweak to use with tp2. I would give a look at any official rom. Im running official without bloat and havent had a single problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mr_sheen:
the official 2.5 is just sluggish. None of my performance tweaks seems to work. Thats all. Tried it for 4 days and didnt encounter any problem with it except for slow and buggy messaging app. The home screen is noticeably slower when you have the weather up and running.

Overall, i needed a great response from my device, so i revert back to the official 2.1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Scalage:
It surprises me that nobody mentioned that tf3d/sense is just eye-candy in the first place! If you want a fast and stable rom, go for one without it.

Myself, I haven't noticed any severe lag on sense 2.5. It is a bit slower at some times (messaging), but nothing that pushes me back to 2.1.

Just my 2 cents...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ca3sar:
i want the today quick launch icons from 2.5 thats all
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Allen Mead:
I have up dated to the new ROM and I really like it asthetically it's pleasing but, as others have said, 2.5 is sluggish on a few things which is slowly becoming annoying. This is notibly when using the hardware keyboard pressing FN and then SMS, very slow.

Not that keen on the SMS app, preferred 2.1's and the calendar has too much of a delay in the agenda view to show all day appointments. The 'built-in' facebook features also seem to be slower than before. I may well go back to 2.1, we'll see.

My 2pence worth.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gunner13:
First of all thanks a lot for making this post as i 'm new to all this and i 'm currently expirimenting with different roms and i couldn't miss the slugginess you all refer too. I had decided that i would put energy rom which looked cool but when talk became action i was kind of disappointed. +i hate the people tab from 2.5. I want to have 3 people in there not 9. why make me? So switched to 2.1 and from now on i will only be looking for roms with that.

Thanks again. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] redpoint73:
Try the simplicity ROM, its buttery smooth and fast. Energy looks great and has a ton of cooked-in features and apps, but not the fastest. Other fast, lightweight ROMs are Jackos and Valkyrie. Haven't tried those myself, but good comments by other users.

And don't forget, most ROMs take a while to "settle" right after you flash. Give it at least an hour before you start freaking out about lag and slowness.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cajunflavoredbob:
Are you relying on the information in an eight month old thread? Sense works wonderfully on the Rhodium. It requires a bit more work than TF3D, but the rewards are well worth it. As far as the people tab goes, you could simply use CHT to put a few contacts in one of the side pages. There's also OCT to look into to overclock the CPU. Running at a constant 748.8MHz makes the entire ROM buttery smooth. I, like most users here find that the benefits far outweigh any negative effects that you might find in the UI. Yes, it requires a bit more tweaking, but it is by far a better one than TF3D.

If you must go for a TF3D ROM, Jackos has a really good one available that you might want to consider.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
are we waiting on the official 2.1 to be released to get more fully functioning roms?

do you guys see more apps and themes being made for our cdma heros in the near future?

id love one day to see as many options on the cdma versions as they have for gsm.

any thoughts or input on this guys? what would you like to see? :D

maybe even the possibility of porting webos or maybe even winmo to our phones? i don't see why not as winmo can port android. it's not on the top of my list but it would be cool to play with.
[Hero CDMA General] Leukay:
Dude. You start a lot of threads man lol. But yeah, Android 1.5 was made for GSM, and HTC had to do some crazy wackjob stuff to make it work for CDMA. Android 1.6 started including CDMA support, and Android will continue to support CDMA from 1.6 on out. So basically, once 2.1 comes out officially, I believe we will be in business. You should just chill out a little bit about the whole being bored and what's gonna happen stuff, and just enjoy your device. The HERO is a great phone, and it's only gonna get better!
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
yeah but i like to discuss, hence why we are on a forum. ;)
[Hero CDMA General] mrcharlesiv:
Haha.. Yeah think it would be kinda cool to have WinMo on our phones, too; although I doubt I would use it for more than a day or two. Our Devs are seriously working hard getting the DEV-ROMs working and they're doing a ****ing great job. I can't wait to see what comes after the official update!!!
[Hero CDMA General] sirstanley:
So... this might be a stupid question, but exactly what are we looking to see in the 2.1? I don't have any problems with my phone now, a little laggy and short battery life but I plan to get a new battery on payday. So, what is so great that people are actually talking about unrooting to go to the Official 2.1? I wouldn't unroot for anything they could possibly put in there. What if I'm at a friends and need internet and he doesn't have any? I gotta be able to tether. i can always use PDAnet, but its just not the same. And no longer being able to control the CPU, etc. And I love flashing all the new roms that come out and experimenting with the awesome stuff the Devs crank out, so really what is gonna be so awesome about 2.1?
[Hero CDMA General] ko0pa11:
i actually saw a guy on here with a pic of his hero with winmob 7 on his hero...don't know if it was legit or not, but nice to see
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
i debunked that this morning. it was a photoshop job. wm7 cannot run on any current device out there let alone an android phone.
[Hero CDMA General] ko0pa11:
smh @ that guy tricking people

still would be pretty cool to see it ported over
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
lol that was me.. not meant to trick.... but to... inspire...? yeah.

and again.... NO PHOTOSHOP WAS USED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:cool:
[Hero CDMA General] Gregalous:
Because when Sprint releases 2.1, then our devs will be able to take all the amazing-ness from 2.1 and combine it with the amazing-ness of having root access! Until then, we're just using hacks and leaks to get what we can get.
[Hero CDMA General] mrinehart93:
And we'll have the actual kernel instead of stuff with backported drivers.
[Hero CDMA General] akijikan:
well to me 2.1 was the holy grail until today.

The Dream rom has Flash 10.1, so its my new holy grail.
[Hero CDMA General] sirstanley:
Oh, I agree totally that it will be awesome when the devs get their hands on all the 2.1 stuff, but what about the people talking about unrooting for the official upgrade? I guess what I'm really asking is...what amazing-ness? What are we waiting for? Will the phone make us breakfast in the morning and grab beer for us once we get 2.1? I'm in here every day like the rest, checking for updates on 2.1 status and waiting impatiently for the release, but again I ask..what am I waiting for? More speed? Less bloatware? Bug fixes? I'm just curious, I know that going from 1.29 to 1.56 fixed the massive lag when going from portrait to landscape and the original MMS issue, etc. But I really didn't notcie a diff in my phone after the upgrade. Seriously, what are we looking for in this new update?
[Hero CDMA General] regaw_leinad:
I'm down for that one :cool:
[Hero CDMA General] toastcfh:
Official .29 kernel or not. I bet once camera is backported most devs will use the modded .27 kernel to optimise their builds until .29 source is released. The main things we will get from the official release is the frameworks, a few and apks to allow for all of Sprints stuff to work. And I've almost managed that already :P but yeah other advantages of 2.1 are vwp, better frameworks, better opengl, better apps, UIs, and a better os all together. I know ill make sure the build is ready for all the root users on day one. If its not already leaked by then.
[Hero CDMA General] rt1oo:
let's hope for a HERO200 leak then!

come on single unruly mischevious HTC employee....if you do this, then we promise we won't bother you like we did to get the source code.. :D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
I just read an article on Gizmodo:

http://gizmodo.com/5476641/adobe-fl...lash-allergy-due-to-hovering-clicking-cursors

Basically, a developer from Adobe explained why Flash is not in the iPhone/iPad, because Flash wont work on touch based device like that.

What is this?

Could this be true as well for the WP7S? Because it has capacitive touch based similar to iPhone.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] seed_al:
No, that's nonsense, since Flash 10.1 already works on Android (it'll be included with the HTC Desire and you can already try it on the Nexus One).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] machackpc:
Flash 10.1 will be on Windows Phone 7 Series (Confirmed)

Yes! Mike Chambers, Principal Product Manager at Adobe Confirmed this.. Read the story below..

http://www.machackpc.com/headline/flash-10-1-will-be-on-windows-phone-7-series-confirmed/
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] krjcook:
Microsoft already confirmed that their working hard with Adobe to bring Flash to WP7S.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ronkra:
Morgan Adams, the person who "explained" why it would not work is a ****ing apologist and a very poor developer, just go on the net and look up sites he "helped build" and it will take you no more then a couple seconds to understand he ain't worth ****. I seen monkeys arrange poo in more artistic way. He also happens to be a mental midget and played the shill when Adobe cut flash for winmo 6.5. So **** Morgan Adans and **** Adobe.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] GuestK0081:
oh come on, we've got multitouch now

two finger scrolling = hovering

one finger scrolling = clicking/dragging

or vice versa, i think it would be easy for them to do that..
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ronkra:
The way Adobe demoed it, either the flash window runs full screen (a game, a database app, etc) or you double tap the flash content inside a page and it gained focus so everything worked like it does on any browser (mobile or not) so screw this revisionist crap.

Adobe CS4 sales tanked after CS3 numbers, I am hoping CS5 sales will take a nose dive so hard you folks actually have to wake the **** up. ***** slap extraordinaire in the mail for you jerks. Thanks for making it possible to compile native to iphone while taking a gigantic dump on winmo users after all that you promised. Nice to watch all those videos on Adobe tv with your developers running flash on winmo 6.5 machines. Shame.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] fortunz:
And webOS. Some people just lack imagination.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jul644:
What do you guys suggest as your favorite/best rom for being touch friendly and easy to navigate just using the touch screen?

-----------------------------------------------UPDATE------------------------------------------------------------

Of course follow all the guide so your ready to flash you can find them stickied

HERE

but after trying a couple i would suggest this one:|TP|6.5.5|WWE| ★ Energy 'Phoenix 2' (21892) ★|Feb 17|★ Sense 2.1

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=536751

(the 23547 build is more touch friendly to)

Once you flash it go over to the settings and the tab selections and then click so the weather and stocks tabs are not showing(this speed everything up alot) then go into programs then go to see all them scroll down untill you see keybord selected and select your keybord;

If its blue then its a fuze if its green its a touch pro

after that of course adjust brightness to according to your liking

***WARNING***

Do not do anything to try and make it more finger friendly trust me its best the way it comes.

(Don't even click on the thing thats says it makes menus more touch friendly)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] patrick_spd4u:
Windows Mobile 6.5.3 was made for capacitive display, so it must be finger-friendly, so every ROM that based on Windows Mobile 6.5.3 is finger-friendly, no matter it has Manila (TouchFLO/Sense) or not..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] qkzoo:
I've never flashed before. Any suggestion for a ROM to flash to my Fuze?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jul644:
Advice

Of course follow all the guide so your ready to flash you can find them stickied

HERE

but after trying a couple i would suggest this one:|TP|6.5.5|WWE| ★ Energy 'Phoenix 2' (21892) ★|Feb 17|★ Sense 2.1

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=536751

Once you flash it go over to the settings and the tab selections and then click so the weather and stocks tabs are not showing(this speed everything up alot) then go into programs then go to see all them scroll down untill you see keybord selected and select your keybord;

If its blue then its a fuze if its green its a touch pro

after that of course adjust brightness to according to your liking

***WARNING***

Do not do anything to try and make it more finger friendly trust me its best the way it comes.

(Don't even click on the thing thats says it makes menus more touch friendly)
[Touch2 General] Langetek:
HI,

For some reason I can't copy any files in my windows folder

I select the file, copy, go to my windows folder, but then I can't paste them. I don't get an error message, but the option "paste" in the menu isn't even there, everytime I try this doesn't matter what kind file I choose

And the windows folder isn't viewed when I'm using my pc to look on the HD of my Toch 2 (WM 6,5)?

isn't that weird?
[Touch2 General] mirost1:
What explorere do you use, with Total Comander i can do it.
[Touch2 General] Langetek:
I'm using the explorer of the Activesync program. If I connect the device to my pc, I can only see the internal HD (as far as I know) using the activesync explorer.

And the copying I tried from the device itself. So I've selected a file on my HTC (using the explorer of the HTC itself), and tried to paste it in the windows folder, but mt HTC doesn't show the option paste in the windows folder.

You suggest to use Total Commander for this?

Then I will try this as soon as I'm back home from work....
[Touch2 General] mirost1:
Look, you cant see Windows folder without special Explorer, cause its a system folder. Take Total Comander, install on your phone, and you will be able to copy/paste files out from Windows folder, and then put them on your PC.
[Touch2 General] Langetek:
Thanks! I will give it a try!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] owbi:
Hi all

I have downloaded a file which lists (as POI's) which petrol stations in the UK have LPG pumps. the file is downloaded as ttn.ov2 (which I renamed when d/loading to lpg.ov2). I have placed this file into the same directory on my storage card as the current POI file. Does any1 know how to get TTN to 'see' this file or merge into the current POI file.

I have a Touch Pro 2, Win Mob 6.1, TTN 7.450.

Cheers to all.:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stunno:
As far as I can remember you just need to copy the ov2 file to your map directory and start Tomtom.

When it has loaded click the screen, click change preferences then show POI on map and click the one that you want to show.

I think thats how you do it
[HD2 General] mur76:
My HD2 sometimes overheats and the battery gets drained when in my pocket. Is this a hardware fault
[HD2 General] ephestione:
unless you have flashed custom roms/installed particular kinds of programs, that is if you're using a mostly standard phone with no big customizations, yes, it may very well be a hardware fault; most of us keep the phone in our pockets, me included, and this is not a common thing.

As a last resort, hard reset and if the problems persists send it back for warranty servicing
[HD2 General] flunkyou2:
mine did this yesterday i found out it was Windows My Phone.... it was downloading all my old files (233 music files)
[HD2 General] kilrah:
Yup, firstly check it's not simply a program running in the background doing stuff. It's often the case.
[General Questions and Answers] Burnie-Bernhard:
Hey

I've an htc HD 2 about a month now and have the PS1 Emu FPSece and i'm a real fan of it and want the full Version with Multitouch etc. and want to donate it, but i have no Paypal account, because I'm only 16 years old.

Does anyone know, how i can make a Donation ?
[General Questions and Answers] hanackin:
I guess you should ask them directly :cool:

http://www.fpsece.net/
[General Questions and Answers] stylez:
Moved as not software release and as hanackin suggests best way would be to contact them directly.
[General Questions and Answers] Burnie-Bernhard:
I've tried it about an half month ago, but until know i got no answer
[General Questions and Answers] Burnie-Bernhard:
Donation :D

OK.. my brother made an Donation for me :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] RiCu:
Hi all,

Anyone know of a free app which can record audio and then play it back, backwards?

Thanks,

Rich
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] danjohnson19855:
why? lol must be another iphone app
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suprhb:
I formated my SD card on my mac as fat32 and now something strange has occured. It seemed to format fine, and I can add things to the card in both OS X and Windows, and Android, however now I cannot format the drive on the windows PC no matter what I try. The disk mounts in windows fine but when I right click and go to format, the SD card umounts and I get the pop-up message:

There is no disk in drive E:

Insert a disk, and then try again.

I think something weird happend when it was formated on the Mac.

My goal was to gain root access, which I've done in the past, but however the Mac disk utility formated the SD card, I cannot get the phone to recognize the DREAIMG.nbh file upon restarting the phone using the rooting method outlined in these forums.

I tryed a few different methods to format the card in windows, including diskpart, and through managment tools. The same thing happens with all methods.

edit: I also tryed formating using the format utility in in Android. It formats fine, but something is still wrong, it will not format in windows.

Any help would be much appreciated.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zachattack052:
are you sure its a mac to pc issue? can you add files to the root of the sdcard and such on a mac