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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Win98seHD2latest

Win98seHD2latest is up, already sent links to pm requester and thread requerster of last 2 pages.

Please someone post links here or reupload!

Who wanna to post link to XP image?

You must know I dont support illegal things, I just had it in spam folder, installed some driver and reuploaded

@ Tokl

Qemu HD2Ubuntu could may be easy run with cpu from qemu android or winmo but I dont know how to install and compile those things on Ubuntu.

Qemu Android Version is attached, here the original thread (google translate from russian is so nice lol):

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=201368&st=420
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sartet:
Dear aSiD,

Could you please send me pm with link to the latest 98 image and XP image

as well as Truky's qemu build for fast XP emulation?

Thanks in advance.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Thanks for the Links.

Im not very familiar with Ubuntu/Linux, so maybe there is an version already for Linux arm, but i dont know how to find/search right for it...

Also thanks for the Android version (Android is my new toy on the HD2...)

I wasn't successful with your version of qemu and running Network, but i will try further.

If i remember right, somebody has written 2 years ago he was successful with enabling it, but he was never answering how he get it, so maybe it was an hoax?

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
xp is uploading. If someone want to have it please post or pm

but this time I only want to send the link one time to sommeoone who will repost or reupload please.

This is "only" xp with settings and drivers for hd2 qemu.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vampir1c:
I would love to test the XP image, I've been running into BSOD with the real xp image. Thanks, your doing an amazing job.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blacksmith01:
Good Job, aSiD.

i want win98se & XP image to.

plz give me link~~
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
I dont will send more links only to one who will post links or reupload.

So please dont request links if you dont want to post links or reopload images please.

Everyone who wants should get this and I dont wanna post wanna post it or send PM Links all the day so I released it was realy much work,

so please spread it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
@ALL:

To assist aSiD, you can also ask me via PM for the Links :cool: .

Please be patient,

all requests will be answered but it can take a short Time

(I also had to sleep from time to time ;) ) .

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Great thx Tokl!

@all:

Network is not running on the Winmo qemu versions yet. Dontz wast time testing the diffrent devices and settings on winmo qemu. The qemu version has to be changed.

Network hardware emulation is working nice but guest is searching forever and could never get a bit from outside because qemu could not connect it to HD2 Network. If you use any network setting on qemu winmo it always says "..not connected..."

Any video enthusiast may be would like to make a youtube vid of running he Win98SE image?

I want to do this also but may be someone already started or would have fun to do that?

I would suggest to try the new Win98seHD2latest image and not the old because new is much better, like a perfect dream of Windows 98 at latest possible state. If you already tested old image, this is just much better. Try it on real Hardware.

There is very much demo software installed but it is still small under 500 mb upload and suporting so much. Software you realy dont like to have could easy be removed. Software dont listed in Add/remove Programms is not installed because it is not required, just delete folder and links if you dont like it or copy on other systems if you find it usefull. If you need any setup files of Win or installed software, PM me I will try to give the source.

All dos games are not complete configured and tested, so some of this games are running but input is not configured or game are running after setup or are just not working.

The XP image is not so advaced in updates and software, it is slower and keeps long time to boot, has mouse Drag-Click issues, qemu version with limited interface but you could easy install and use setup that requires xp and it is also "fast" if booted complete and . Sould is sloooow like half speed, dont know why yet. This is image from Trucky, I just installed drivers for sound and touch, changed some settings to make it rebootable and faster bootable on HD2, added onscreen Keyboard, some screensavers and qemu.

It is much more stripped than on the way to latest updates state.

It includes qemu version ready to run it on HD2.

Also inside the xp image is a qemu folder including the nand Win98se image bootable from emulated xp on HD2 from desktop icon.

You could extract qemu folder from XP image to PC, copy XP image into it and start "boot_xp.bat" to boot xp image on your PC with working internet.

You could boot the Win98seHD2latest with internet if you use qemu settings from Win98seHD2latest readme.txt on qemu folder extracted from XP image.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Here you are - some new Pic´s

As i am not so good in making Videos (Maybe one of you can do that better?!) ;-) - i decided to take some Screenshots.

Pictures are taken from both Windows 98SE and Windows XP SP3, running on my HD2 :D

I believe its one of the lowest Power consumption running X86 Windows ever (1,1Watt incl. Screen) :D

Starting sequence of Qemu:

Booting of Windows 98SE:

98 On Desktop:

System:

Booting of Windows XP:

XP On Desktop:

System:

And last but not least :D :D :D

Booting an Windows 98SE virtually inside of an virtual started Windows XP Machine on top of Windows Mobile 6.5 and that all on a Phone ... :eek::cool::p

Respect the work of aSiD1712 and TruckyBN who brought the Systems to run and at least mamaich who ported Qemu to WM and actually to Android!

And of course all others i forgot! Without their hard work this all wouldn't be possible!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skysailer:
if I remember right, when my computer hardware can't meet the minimun requirements for standard XP, or it runs too slow to use, I just run a special prepared version like PE instead, and they even got a PE version from win7.

so anyone here have PE tested ? If no one I'll test that if I have time this weekend...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drjawad:
aSID thanks alot for ur efforts.you r great.asid what about microxp about 99 mb in size have u tried that.it wil be a bit fast i guess. or any other stripped version of xp?

@skysaller whats PE and can u give us download link for that?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skysailer:
here is your referance link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Preinstallation_Environment

the latest version is WinPE 3.0, usually they are used for system maintianance. and I believe they have better graphical interface than win98 :)

as for the download links, you can find them everywhere...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Maybe we should open a new Thread called "windows XP on HD2 (for real)" :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
yes this should get better sorted.

Sorry some of my PM links are lost on the page that can not be displayed, xda is not working very often for me if I click on reply and dont wait for the page it is lost.

A slim XP hm maybe but I think since XP is running "ok" now a stipped Win 7 would be next most intresting. Someone knows a nice Win7 light PE?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruckyBN:
Hi friends, I was not in my home town some period but I am here now. I will upload PE tonight. works fast and stabile. I have one question: Is PE freeware?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
hey Trucky you are here nice!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
I did my try now with Windows 7 PE http://reboot.pro/12427/

Maybe we got really Windows 7 running on a Phone :D

PE builder itself yes, the OS it builds NO ... :(

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Did anyone get it managed to open and edit the imagefiles (.img) inside of windows mobile?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
@aSiD1712 sorry for the delay you are not fighting alone appreciate you staying active. I have been busy trying to catch up with you. Will post extensiv information when I am back on my Desk. Basically we should wrap this and all informatin incl. Drivers, etc up in a new organized thread. I have been trying to get that organized but would need at the most two more days. Post more information in a couple of hrs. check out serial to ethernet products like etima software or com2tcp, hub4com. Again sorry for the delay and happy Christmas to everyone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
It is possible to manage images complete on HD2 but not easy.

You can open images with 7z arm and extract files but dont insert files. But you could by example create image with box image creation tool on Win98, fdisk it or use ghost to create image from a emulated drive in Win98, edit it with Win98, extract to winmo with 7z, mount the extracted new image and a winmo folder with files you want to have in image via DOSBOX!!! and copy files to image via dos or with a booted win95 or 3.1 or Norton Commander as you like.

Also there should be network on dosbox but versions I tried are unstable and limited to 2 mb on winmo.

May be it is also possible with the heros 2 (her2_pol) plugin. Someone knows how it works with external files? May be network could be possible exchanged over a file?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
New Drivers for Windows 98

Since i wasnt able to install/start an Windows 7 image :( ,

i played a little with the Win98SE from aSiD :)

I found an new, maybe "all in one" Driver which is also compatible with the qemu VGABios Cirrus VGA-Card compatible :D

http://navozhdeniye.narod.ru/vbempru.htm

Maybe its imagination, but it feels a little bit faster. ;)

For this i created an Monitor inf driver which has only one standard resolution with 800X480,

but since the VGA Card of Qemu isnt supporting this resolution, its falling back to 800X600 :mad:

I read somewhere the new Desktop version of Qemu 0.13 support this resolution in VGABios,

so we need skilled people who are porting the newer files for running with WM Version.

Neither the WM nor the Android Version is able to run those files uncompiled (only get an black Screen).

I attached those files.

At installation of the VGA Driver is coming an missing File error - hit skip this file - and its going further.

So far, only tested on aSiD´s Win98 :D

Did anyone have an 2D Benchmark? Or did i miss the point in sandra?

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
nice will test it! Dam I was still hoping for 800x480. Still locking for standard vga driver for 98 and cirrus driver for xp. If you enable hardware accelleration on cirrus on Win98 everything on desktop is shon somhere else so it is impossible to use it. May be standard vga just dont do this because on standard driver is no hardware acceleration at all.

You are right we should create a new clean howto thread with overview in entry post. Let me know if I could help. May be we could better create a Wiki page?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
this is a nice 2d benchmark

http://www.tomshardware.de/download/Tom2D,0301-26150.html
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
qemu driver

here are some qemu device driver for win98 including drivers for 800x480 but did not tested.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
Information for a possible new QEMU Emulation Thread.

Definetly have the confirmed stuff trickle down into a Wiki page but in order to collect the best drivers, settings, possibilities, a very organized thread will be needed. I figured I will try to get it the way I made the MaxSense Custom Design Thread. Below is a example of what I mean. In my Sig you can find the link to the CDC Thread. Basically have 8 to 10 posts reserved.

First Post: Thread Infos / Overview / Search for Programmers / Limitations

Second Post: QEMU for ARM Information / QEMU_Manager / Available Keyboards

3rd - 9th Post: 1 Post per OS collecting all the information (Drivers,Optimal QEMU Settings, Configuration Scripts, Videos, Screenshots,etc)

10th Post and up: Discussions, findings, etc. (Confirmed Information will get summarized and posted in the appropriate reserved OS Post with links to the Post if needed)

I will start publishing what I got so far tomorrow Morning. I will start with Win95 since that runs solid and then do one after another hopefully with everyones help.

Open Questions:

What would be the best location for the new Thread. Also under HTC Leo: HD2 HD2 Q&A ? Does it only apply to the HD2 or is it just easier to collect the information here and everyone else can use it too but if their devices are too slow it would maybe not clog up the Thread with its too slow for my device answears.

What about Linux Builds? Seperate Thread?

I appologize for the large Post but would love to hear your Input on how to organize it better. Anyone that needs a link to a Build or other information you can also PM me so that aSID1712 does not have to answear everything by himself. We also would need atleast 1 Mod that would check to make sure that I and others dont post anything that is harmfull or inappropriate to the Forum.

Note: None functional mok-up. See CDC Thread for functional example of the same principal.

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
1. Place

HD2 2D Champion!!!

:D:D:DGOLD!:D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
tokl realy great no time to check complete know, will be back later
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
Nice one. Which Driver Version was the winner? Cirrus Logic 1.41?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
lol it is the standard in driver, no optimizations, Im 1.st and only.

Swiss very nice ne sorted page, will see later
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
Win98seHD2latest without additional software

I have finished a version of Win98seHD2latest without additional software but HD2-optimized at latest state. 162 mb upload.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikomarco:
can you share?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
Its downloading for me at 15KB/s as soon as I have it I will upload it to my Servers and send you the link in case you have not gotten the link yet.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
This is very small but usefull opengl bench running on all windows versions, tested on Win98seHD2_latest, running great with this settings.

Should also run on XP.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Wow thanks, nice Graphics you have made :)

That will be a lot of work :eek: - but going to be a really cool thing! :cool:

The big question is, like you said :

Should this be an HD2 Thread only or is it this more an general Windows Mobile Apps and Games thing?

Pro for WM general:

- Much more Users, so more input and bigger chances to get some developers

Contra for WM general:

-Different Types of Devices (Resolution/Memory/Speed/Input), so different settings and/or problems

-More eyes on the thread, also more care is needed for given images.

So i think maybe it would be better to put this to the HD2

One post per linux or one post for all versions may be good, i dont think this should be separated.

This Depends also on Thread Name... maybe "[HOWTO] Running Windows XP and other OS on HD2!"

Also there should be one Post for Tips and hints of installing windows in an virtual machine (Using images/size/Programs for editing the Images...).

And on this way the comparison between PC and WM Qemu (Network/Speed/Hardware acceleration ...)

Keep up that work!

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
I think this is intresting for every wm device, not only for hd2 and needs more friends.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
try this:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dxglwrap/files/dxglwrap/0.0.9/d3d8-gl-0.09.exe/download

directx-opengl-wrapper for d3d-"hardware" ^^
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skysailer:
Floppy OS & PE2.0

@TruckyBN

first, thanks for ur image.

I tried PE 2.0 this weekend and it is not so good. since PE will create a ramdisk at startup, seems it will take ages to load desktop. so how did u manage to run this baby fast and stable?

and the setting keys in ur QEMU version seems not working, so I can't load other toolbars.

@aSiD1712

thanks for ur image also, I successfully boot win98 in my HD2, but I had trouble booting PE in ur QEMU version. everytime it reaches desktop, it just gives me a blue screen with unknow hardware error.

@all

besides PE, I also tested some floppy OSs, but they are not as good as win98, here is some links, just in case anyone interested.

Injector Linux

http://injector.sourceforge.net

TriangleOS

http://www.wcools.nl/

MenuetOS

http://www.menuetos.net/
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
Attached is a mok-up of the Windows 95osr2 Reserved Post. Hopefully this will work for all OS. Here only the Titels will be Images and the rest searchable text. Am I missing any relevant topic? Text is also not done yet. Instructions, drivers, etc. Also attached are two Background images just for fun.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ax0r:
I would like to play around with 98 if its the fastest build you have, please pm me link
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
I send you the links.

For everyone else if possible please ask for links via the PM system. Its better for this kind of requests. Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokl:
Hi,

thanks for the Links, are you familiar with Linux?

Just for that case: Try HD2 Ubuntu

maybe you can get qemu to work (there must be an special ARM version...

Greetz Tokl
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
It’s coming along but it is just allot of information to compact and verify. I made some more previews for you to check out and critique.

Thread Overview

QEMU Apps

QEMU Plugins

QEMU Settings

QEMU Information

QEMU Drivers

QEMU Links

QEMU Windows 95 Part 1 / QEMU Windows 95 Part 2
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skysailer:
Sorry to disappoint but um..I am not a programmer, so I can't get QEMU working. so I googled everywhere, there is simply NO other ARM version for QEMU, only mamaich's port(see his old home page), which is buggy as we all know, and he ceased futher development as we all know T_T (check this qemu forum out)...

I searched that forum and found this:

Bug in qemu 0.9.1 (and maybe later) + fix

Problems with QEMU 0.10.2 under Windows Mobile

I don't know if this helps, there is a guy said that he can successfully run x86 linux binaries on an arm based linux system. since I wasn't able to contact him to confirm, so I am gonna just put it here:

Running native i386 linux binaries on arm linux

and again, really really hoping that some skilled programmer can fix the bug in qemu, since I cannot contribute to that, a chinese translation of swiss420's wiki page could be easily done by me, :cool:

PS, I tried ubuntu about 4 months ago, a great build indeed, but I think it would perform better if flashed into nand... just personal opinion...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tozzy2:
I don't understand it... This project has been in development for ages so why is it all of a sudden in the news? I could understand if there was network support but there still isn't. Can someone please explain?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Final5k:
I've read that people can play windows 95/98 games on their hd2. Can someone please check if this old school RPG game demo is playable without lag on their hd2 :

http://www.amaranthia.com/downloads/games/Aveyond-Gates-of-Night.exe

If we can play rpg games on the hd2, then this device will definitely be my next phone!! Please test it and report back.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
I will give it a try and let you know.

Its the principal of the Chicken and the Egg. What was first? We have restarted this in hopes of collecting enough information so that someone here at XDA (4'000'000 Members) can crack the Network problem. In other words find someone that is as smart and eager as Mamaich and can recompile QEMU to facilitate Network Support. Until now all information is spread out over the Internet. Hopefully we can create a Thread that will collect and condense all this information. I am hoping that atleast a Serial to Ethernet Connection is possible but we will see.

I realy hope to get QEMU running without any Linux. Android, Ubuntu, etc is great but not what I want to achive here.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSiD1712:
It is getting more interesting now because we have HD2 like Phones and managed to setup 98 and xp compete, input is improoved, so it feels now like a PC in your hand.

It is a very big diffrence to run win98 years ago on a 400 mhz device in save mode without any drivers and unuseable inputs

or our 2010 images on HD2.

Nearly everyone will have a arm-driven phone or pad soon and hardware is getting better, so now it is the time to make emulation of every host OS complete useable. Mamaich also wrote something like that years ago.

This wm qemu is very old and there are so many threads but it is not finished(interenet) and may be now and here is the time to do that.

May be in some years will this port be able to emulate 64 bit systems.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swiss420:
A quick try to play Aveyond Gates of Night has failed. Using aSiD1712's Win98SE Cracy Build (by the way very nice work) the game crashes right after start. Not sure what the problem might be but it happens under QEMU Manager and on the device. See Screenshots.

@aSiD1712 As mentioned great work with Win98SE Cracy. Everything included only thing I would have definetly left out was the Google Toolbar. ;) Will start with the Thread when I get back and finished some work for NRG. I think I got enough information by now and it can grow with whatever you guys can provide. Will do it in the General Section of XDA instead of HD2 if that is OK with everyone here. Still I dont know why but it feels like I am depriving the HD2 Forum if we realy move it out of here. :confused: :o

Maybe some of you would want to take over some of the reserved Posts for OS Specific Information to upkeep them. Please PM me if you are interessted. I will prepare them and a moderator will be able to transfer them to you if you think you have the time and interesst it takes.

Attachments: First from the Device itself (Shake and Save) Second and Third from QEMU Manager under Windows. Reduced the RAM to show Requirements.