[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
@Spike,

There is no such thing as complete freedom in this world my boy. I don't know which country you come from, but it sounds like USA. You keep talking about your own personal freedom without balancing it with your responsibilities and obligations as a law abiding citizen, and that's where the problem seems to lie. You also pretend that human nature is such that they would automatically do the right things and there is no need to put in place any restrictions. Even in USA, you're not free to do anything you want, neither is it a good thing to allow you. You must pass a driving test before you are allowed to drive even though you believe you can drive better than others already without taking any test. You must not buy a gun and use your neighbour for shooting practice even if you think he deserves to die. If you park your car in some parking lots, you must pay, although you may be used to not having to pay elsewhere and the system and rate may not be completely fair. You must pay your taxes although the system may not be completely fair. You must take care of your own children. You must not go round peddling dangerious drugs although you stongly believe that they're harmless and although you feel that you have a right to earn a living by doing so.

Application software and music artist want to get paid for their work, and they would not be encouraged to have their work distributed by Apple if the phone does not have a reasonable means to prevent piracy. Why did TomTom release a version of their software for iPhone but not for winmo? Is it not because Apple gives them more confidence that there will be continuous sales, rather than making just some small initial sales and most subsequent users are just pirating or warezing it?

You may hold deep conviction that iPhone is a piece of crap and Apple is an evil profit making machine. Sorry, many others don't share your view and their choice may happen to be one that looks for the best phone regardless of brand, so they would want to talk about not just iPhone on the Apple forum, but also WP7S on this forum because they think there may be a future for WP7S. On the surface, you espouse freedom or choice. How about allowing others to have their choice, without having you going around calling them sheeps and evil does, trying to shut them up, asking them to get lost to the Apple forum? If you truly believe in democracy, you would respect the outcome of an election in another country, although the leader they have chosen is your enemy. You can't have it both ways. So, on the question of phone choices, you make your choice, and you let others make their choice. Others are not as dumb as think. Has it occured that they may also hold the same view about you, although they have chosen to keep their opinion to themselves?

You keep accusing others for buying products from evil profit making machines like Apple and Microsoft. Are you going to stop wearing shoes because how hard they squeeze the Asian countries, paying them pitiful wages making those shoes? If you are truly a man of principle, don't wear any shoe.

Many people preach ideas and principles but are the same person who offend those principles the most. You don't agree? Well, just look at who flew in with their personal jets to tell others to reduce their carbon foot prints as examples.

There're just too many things people could have diffferent views on - religion, politics, climate change, trade. In those areas, people fight very hard and impose their views on others. I don't think we need to add mobile phones to the list. It's not that important, as at the end of the day, it's only a phone. I think you should simply open your mind, move from phones to phones, and use the one that serves YOUR needs most, while realising that others may look for something different. Why pledge blind allegence to any of them? Today I like phone A more, tommorrow phone B overtakes it. None is perfect. What's completely unacceptable to me, might be okay for the rest of the people, even though I strongly feel I'm right. Multitasking is an example. I can't live without it, but my wife and children have never needed it ever and they're happy. They only become unhappy if you call them sheeps and stupid, which they're not.

That's quite enough of our discussion on this issue and we've gone very far off topics. If you still want to talk about it, please PM me, but let's not bore others on the issue of personal rights, fascism, bla bla bla. Let's move on, okay?

Cheers.