[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
Hey little kid, you think I'm not familiar enough with WinMo plateform to know the truth? You think I do not know how to do HardSPL, flash ROM, and do all the tweaks that you're doing?

If you've any sense of honesty, any at all, then you'll admit that you're replacing one set of imperfect ROM with another imperfect ROM. You fix some bugs, and find new ones. Many shortcoming could never be fixed. Just an example, you can never make your volume button change volume in fine increment across all application - only to some application but may not be able to do it on the music player that you have chosen for yourself.

In the case of iPhone firmware, the defect is corrected and shows up in subsequent update. Can you say the same for winmo OS when you switch from phones to phones? You have new features, yes, but often the old problems persists. Just look at the ability to set default keyboard and to make it stick for example. People think it is memory problem preventing it from sticking. How many versions of WM OS are released with the same problem over and over and over again? To claim that spending 15 minutes flashing a new ROM gives you a perfect device sound too much like a fanboy talking to me, sorry.

Each new firmware version has to be re-cracked. Each winmo upgrade has to be recooked. For vast majority of iPhone users, the effort of jailbreaking is equivalent to installing a cab file via activesync on winmo. For many winmo users, perhaps not you, significant part of their lives evolve around waiting for a new ROM and flashing it. Where the're many cooks for that models, this could turn out to be multiple ROM flasing per week kind of activities. If you enjoy what you're doing, it's fine because I too use to do that and enjoy it. However, I've come to hate it, because after all those efforts, the phone still does not work the way it should, and I was sick of not being able to get well designed finger friendly applications to cater to all my needs. So I tried other options and found that it meets my needs much better. Also, remember, upgrading to a new firmware is stictly optional. Nobody puts a gun on your head to upgrade, so don't give me this cat and mouse argument as an excuse for refusing to jailbreak. Yet people like you is also the same persons who complain that iPhone cannot be tweaked! Crickey! Give me a break. I'm entitled to call you fanboy as much as you're entitled to call me one, but I'd rather keep that opinion to myself. I only voice this out when you attack like a mad dog and can't let go.

You really must widen your eyes and perspective beyond what you're seeing kid. Majority of the users could not live with winmo and do not know how to flash ROM, and even if they could, their problems would not be solved. However, majority of the users could use iPhone without jailbreaking. Three out of four members of my famiily use it without jailbreaking at the moment. I did JB their before but they don't use any of the additional features, so I restore it back to stock firmware. That vast majority of users of non-JB iphone find that it meets their needs is a fact which even Microsoft is now admitting. We can now choose to either JB or not to JB, and once JB, it meets my requirements far far more than WM phone could.

I see it over and over again on the HD2 forum. Anyone expressing disappointment with HD2 are treated like a leper and attacked, labelled HD2 bashing. The fanboys are often the one who call others fanboys. Where's the ability to reason? Where's the maturity? Where have all the 'brains' gone to? I can tell people that I like what I saw in HTC Supersonic and no-one would say anything against me - not one would. We would discuss the pros and cons, but I don't see anyone being bullied or abused for expressing their desire to "defect to the other camp", like I see here. If it has happened, it's not common as I really don't recall that happening.