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[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
One of the users reported something happen with their phone, I don't know if it's related but until I figure it out for sure I've pulled the build.

Until I can be sure guys if you updated with the latest version please flash back to a different nbh and use a different build.

Personally I've had no issues with this but I want to be sure.

As CP0020 posted here; http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=664941 we think it's just from flashing the NBH so many times it may have worn out the nand. It's the same failure I had when my phone died. However as we are still unsure I'm not comfortable continuing development and releasing. If anyone wants to take over where I left off on this they can.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skipbarker:
Awesome. Downloading now. :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
does gmail work? can i sync my contacts?

EDIT: i saw in your txt file to use market to setup account, not wizard
[Touch CDMA Android Development] egzthunder1:
Good to see that you are back!! Do you have a list of features of this?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drewden123:
I'm sure this has been answered somewhere, and I apologize if it has, but can I run an SD card build on top of my NAND somehow? And then switch back to NAND w/o data loss if I don't lke it? Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
you bet, use the installer, install to sd..

when you want to switch back, in the options just change the installer settings back to system on nand and data on nand and exit without installing anything..

back to your nand install :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
cool, i will try this out. I dont have partitions on my sd. I assume i need to do this first. Can i create a partition without wiping my sd card?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skipbarker:
This has some real potential. It seems a little slow but I'm guessing that has more to do with my crappy sd card than the build.

I'm interested in seeing where this build goes.

Great to see you back mssmison. :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
It runs fantastic on nand.. with some optimization I expect it will run really well. Also there's no swap or anything running with this build, that would make a huge difference no doubt.

just no free space at all.. lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
i know the answer is prolly a no

but will this have the multi-touch like shown in that video,

if it does thats awesome but i didnt think its possible with resistive touch screens
[Touch CDMA Android Development] josh s:
Multi-touch is not possible with our resistive touch screens.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
thats what i thought, thanks for confirming
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
This runs great on my Eris. Thanks :p
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
hey stranger! how's eris life? :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
No root yet, so miss the versitility of the vogue at the moment. I need a new one because i have some unfinished business here. ;)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I should have mentioned this runs much better if you use the nbh from my eclair post.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I've gotten gapps working properly, just getting bluetooth up to snuff.

Will post soon.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skipbarker:
Awesome!

Any progress on nand install?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Now that I've gotten gapps figured out I'll spend some time. I'm going to set up a special way of doing it though, that should leave more space..

We'll see how it goes.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] skipbarker:
Sounds great!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
How would I go about changing that???
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mrkite38:
Different nbh for nand / change default.txt for haret
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Figured it out. Downloaded the file from Myn's thread and changed out the instal file. Seems to be loading now. Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Just got this to work on my vogue, but none of the widgets are showing (home flipcock, bookmark, calendar, music, etc.). Did I do something wrong?

Just added the installer and update .tars to andboot folder. I am using haret.

Please

no haret remarks. I simply haret.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
This looked awesome on my device but seems to reset when I called my phone. The one time it didn't reset I wasn't able to see who was calling.

Man, if this build got the kinks worked out it would rock!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
I used haret. After it finally installed, which felt like forever, I was able to slide the side to get to the other pages with more widgets.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
I got it to work as well. Then I got the same problem you had. Device reset when I someone would call me. Just a few more kinks and this phone is going to rock!!!

I had to remove it for now. I need to be able to receive and make calls without the 5min. waiting period.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] Reddog80p:
Super sexy build. Once the CDMA bugs get worked out I'm game to try it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
CDMA bugs? What CDMA bugs? It's working fine for me on Verizon.

This rom kicks ass. That is all.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
hey guys, I realized I left the vogue sensors driver in there, that's what is making you reboot I think. For now remove the senors.msm7k.so file from /system/lib/hw.

I'll try and get an update out today without it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
I took it off my phone for the moment. But i will try your update when you release it. Is it going to be nandable?:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Any Kaiser users may want to try the attached update. Enables Wifi.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
Please make it haret and nand usable. Thanks
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Just open androidupdate.tar with 7-zip, remove the file, and reinstall.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
I know what to do, I just dont want to unless its nandable to be honest. Can you verify that it doesnt reboot anymore?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Why shouldn't it be? Kernel can be in NAND, data is recommended to be put in NAND but system on SD-card. I suspect the reason for the latter is that the data need all of the available space in NAND as it allocates 96Mb swap.

At what point does it reboot? I haven't tried it out much yet but I will once I've reinstalled with data in NAND (currently backing up my polymod data partition)

Also keep in mind that I have a Kaiser so it's not certain that the same thing happens for me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
he said hes going to make it nandable monday or tuesday. It reboots after an incoming phone call.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I suppose that means that both system and data will fit in NAND?

I'll let you know when I've had the opportunity to try it out.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i think so. Although I will probably end up putting data on my 500mb ext2 partition. So I wont even need an update huh? So the system alone fits on nand already?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I want to address nandable on these hero based builds for a moment, while I can do it, it almost takes up all of your space in your /data parition (40MB for the apk's + 40MB or so for dalvik cache=80MB). The biggest performance increase from nand is having the dalvik cache on nand which is why I suggest having the system on /sdcard/partition and data on nand.

Don't take me wrong I still plan to put a nand build out (and am working on it now in fact) but I'm just not sure if there's any gain to it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] garringm:
While playing around with som of the stuff I learned from you mison I was able to install to nand however it used up almost all of the internal memory I had 23mb left give or take. BUT for ****s and giggles and probly not the way to do things I symlinked /data/app to sdcard/app it ran just a tad slower but it actually ran. Now I was using the last sense build that you put out 2.1 I think with compcache enabled at 96mb it was almost entirely useless, with it set to 32mb it got a little better, with CC disabled it ran impressively fast for a sense build much faster than hero builds but Rosie reloaded a lot. just my 2 cents
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I've tried just about anything to get GPS Test to NOT reboot Android on my Kaiser with your eclair build v7 & v8 but I just removed the above file from the installation archive and reinstalled v8, downloaded "GPS Test" and entered the settings. Voila! I have not ever been able to do this with your Eclair build while it has been working all the time in polymod.

I have no idea what that file does but it seems like I'm better of without it and I'm now going to give your Eclair build another go. :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
does anybody know if gps works on this? i know youtube does
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
gps works fine
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
i tried to use voice search and the phone just rebooted
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
imho i think that this is more stable than any of the eclair builds. its pretty fast...for me atleast. youtube works (which doesn't on eclair) it looks absolutely gorgeous!!!. gps works. the only problems i have is the phone call delay. it takes 5 rings for the caller id to display. and the voice search reboot. other than that i honestly have no complaints! A++ in my book
[Touch CDMA Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
I can confirm that removing the file that was mentioned a few posts back stopped the reboot when a call is received but the delayed caller ID issue is still present and kind of makes it hard to use this build full time. Along with it taking a really long time to open anything up on the device.

I hope this build gets developed more but for right now it is back to Myn's build which is just all around solid.....I so want to move to 2.1 though!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
agreed. I feel the exact same way. I love this build but its hard to get passed not being able to answer the phone. i dont even get a ringtone. I just get a missed call. Im trying really really hard to just deal with it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
yeah thats really my only issue. as long as the caller doesnt get impatient and hang up its fine lol but i love this build to much to give up!!! it would be cool to have it nandable so i could mount my sdcard without having to reboot
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i wonder if installing a different keyboard would help it come up faster. it takes a while
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
the keyboard takes awhile to come up?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
sometimes like 30 seconds when i click on a text field
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
oh damn!!! voice search does not work. it just reboots the phone. i dont ever use it anyways
[Touch CDMA Android Development] smarcin:
Partitions?

@ incubus26jc or cp0020:

Could you tell me how you have installed this build? Are you using FAT32, ext2, ext2? If you install sys to SD and data to NAND, do you have to unlock and flash away from WM? Which zImage are you guys using? Thanks for any help you can give me. I'm using myn's Warm Donut presently, from SD with partitions.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
system on sdcard and data on nand. just fat32. you dont have to flash your phone, you can just run it straight off of your sdcard. but it runs faster with data on nand. if you do flash it then flash the eclair nbh
[Touch CDMA Android Development] smarcin:
Thanks for the quick answer. If I choose to put data on NAND, though, I have to flash the elclair .nbh? If i put data on SD, is there a newer Eclair zImage than the one from 2/20 that I found on androidhtc? Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
You should use an eclair nbh, the new sense builds use hardware gl to make it run faster.

You can find all the latest kernels here.

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] smarcin:
Thanks for your help.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] garringm:
There are a few things I am trying to work out as far as creating space to use I have this running on NAND and running pretty good. If I can get a few things sorted out I will give you guys what I got if you want. As far as calls coming try disabling CompCache swap it will cause Rosie to reload a lot but it speeds up the rest of the system. Calls will come in faster and with caller ID working.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
how can i disable compcache? and how can i get this on nand? system and data?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
just wanted to address this to everyone. my touchscreen is broke, so i was looking for a way to install this to nand so i can mount my sdcard and use mymobiler to set this up. i deleted some of the apk's that i dont need(its still at 130mb) and i got it to install system and data to nand. and oh my god!!! this thing is blazing fast!!! after the boot animation loads it cut the loading by half! and at the setup screen there was literally no lag/delay. and rosie took half as long to load. now im not sure how much space i actually have at the moment but im sure its very very little lol

edit.....it says i have 74mb of internal storage????? i dont know how but im not complaining lol
[Touch CDMA Android Development] garringm:
If I can get some of my bugs worked out I'll post a download with a .txt file of instructions. It takes up almost all of the phones internal memory so I am just trying to fiqure out how which way is best for installing market apps to the sdcard. I have an unorthodox way of doing it that works but I would like to try to incorporate mssmison's apps2d from one of his eclair builds. Just as an FYI I am running this on a tilt so vogue users will have to do a little trial and error on your own.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
I will get nand posted as soon as it's done uploading :) I know you're all looking forward to it.

I'm looking for someone to take over updating and maintainance of this build. If you're interested let me know :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Nand build posted. :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] garringm:
Beat me to it, I seem to be having some problems with shutdown not working correctly, when I soft reset it won't boot back up keeps going through boot loop. ?? I was trying a different way of splitting my install though.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
how can i disable compcache? I 'm using haret.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I'm currrently installing and while waiting I made this alternate androidupdate.tar for Kaiser users. Not tested (yet) but should enable wifi on Kaisers.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Do I format and wipe NAND clean with the install?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Is there a difference in NAND partition sizes between Vogue and Kaiser? I get "no space left on device" during install if I try to put the system in NAND.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
another good tweak is to check sounds and display settings. There are a number of settings enabled by default that refer to sensors. Disable these.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Do I format and wipe NAND clean with the install?

So I just got to the Android setup and everything is gigantic and nothing fits. I am using 240*320. Am I supposed to be using 320*480?

Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] j8971:
use 320x480 only for Hero builds
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Sense vs Eclair V8

mssmison, what is your thought comparing this build to your Eclair v8 build? Thanks for all your hard work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
apples and oranges :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Followed your instructions and cleared data , but don't have the HTC widgets loading?

INSTRUCTIONS

Install the androidinstall.tar. Wait A LONG TIME for first boot, after you've run the HTC setup and after Rosie has loaded the first time, reboot and install the androidupdate.tar file, than go to settings -> applications -> manage applications, find and open HTC Sense and 'clear data'. Go back home and your htc widgets will show.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
everyone has their opinion. i personally like this better than eclair. its actually pretty damn fast. just about everything works, voice search and bluetooth do not work but youtube does. plus its just an all around beautiful rom
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
I hear you. I would love for this to work, but not getting incoming calls and can't get Sense UI to launch after following the instructions. And it is very slow. Help please :(.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
im not sure man. everything works for me. calls come in slow but thats about it.

hey mssmision is there any way you can add apps2sd to this build???
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
restart the phone and sense should load. just happened to me so i did a soft reset and that fixed it
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
none of the htc widgets will show up. even after clearing htc sense data
[Touch CDMA Android Development] mssmison:
Not sure what to say.. works okay here.. I've tried three seperate fresh installs (been testing new stuff all day) and it was okay.. I'll have another look tomorrow. It's possible the permissions got messed up.

The fix permissions script is in there, can someone try ./adb shell sh /system/bin/fixpermissions.sh

or if that doesn't work, try the other one

./adb shell sh /system/bin/fixpermissions

(two different versions of the same script)

Then reboot and let everyone know if it works :)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
also rosey reloads after everytime i hit the home button. and it takes a good minut and a half to load
[Touch CDMA Android Development] preardon:
About to wipe my eclair to give the nand a try. Will let you know how it goes!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
let us know if you can get the htc widgets to show up
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
uh, do i not wanna go nand? haha
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
can i keep data and change location of it and restore once i go nand?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
nand is a heck of lot faster. I just changed the system from sd partition to nand and left data on nand where it already was. and kept data. and did the update all in one shot. I have htc widgets working. Im definetly happier. I might change data to sd partition
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i mean a heck of alot faster!!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
What's the difference between the NAND download and the Full Install? I have installed system and data onto NAND, so assumed to downoad and use the NAND download. Is that correct?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
You are correct if you want system on nand then install nand version.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Well that is where I was having all the issues, so I am trying the full version now and seeing if that makes a difference.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
what are your issues?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
What we all have been saying, unfortunately. Very slow, can't get the Sense UI to load up, cannot get incoming calls. Always takes about 1.5 minutes to reload rosie when coming back home.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
you will not have the coming back home issues with the full install but i think its much slower. Im not sure you can install that version to nand either. Incoming calls are just as bad with the full install. mine takes about 20 seconds to reload rosie when coming back home. Let me know if you can install to nand without issues.

What i did was install the fulll version, system to sd and data to nand, and get everything loaded up and then after i got it the way i wanted it, I reinstalled the nand version keeping data. Then all my htc widgets were there. And its pretty damn fast and comes home fairly quicky
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i wonder if not installing the update will stop rosie from reloading everyime?

nope that didnt work haha
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Yeah, cannot install Full Version to NAND. It never finishes once I reboot. "Unable to open persistent property directory /data/property errnoi 2."
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Also, is there a calibration app here? My touch screen needs to be calibrated, my keyboard is off.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
i need it too. I saw in it one of these theads a couple days ago but not sure wich one. I will find it real quick.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Waiting, thanks.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
here you go.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] wrath:
Thanks. How do I install an app on Android?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
put the apk on your sd card and then install with astro file explorer from the market if if you dont have it already
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
my homescreen isnt reloading now all the sudden. Its running super fast. I wish you guys could see it nunning. I dont know what the hell is up but its running like donut atm.:):D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] inertone:
when it runs normally

is it ready for everyday use?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
i just noticed that the nand install is 95mb but the full install is 85mb
[Touch CDMA Android Development] incubus26jc:
but it wont work when you try to install the full version to nand. odd sizes though
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
yeah. im doing what you did with the install. hopefully it will be fast like yours
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
df -h on my Kaiser tells me that mtdblock2 is 89.5M and mtdblock3 111.4M

What are those sizes on Vogue?

EDIT: Nevermind. I've found out what parameters in tinboot.S it is that controls this and it seems the tinboot.S I have is not using the same parameters as DZO's. Will do some adjustments and reflash.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] cp0020:
after about 7 tries downloading the nand package and reinstalling system and data and following the instructions i finally got it to work. got the htc widgets and its much faster now then when i kept trying to fix it
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
What were the steps you took to pull that off? Widgets loaded first boot, but after the reboot/update and deleting the app data I have no HTC widgets. I'm reinstalling it now, I'm gonna let it sit longer on firstboot before rebooting and doing the update. I'm putting data on the sdcard partition again.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I'm also curious about "reboot". Reboot as in reset device? Or as in power off and start again? There is no "soft" way to reboot that works, right?

Also on my Kaiser I haven't once managed to power it off nicely either. It just says "Powering off" forever until I lose patiance a reset it "the hard way".

I'm trying full NAND install now after making a new kernel that has enough space on mtdblock2. Currently waiting for rosie to settle down before rebooting for the update.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drkow19:
Agreed. Donut builds for the Vogue do power off through the system, I think they reboot sometimes too. But I usually do the same thing you do for these Sense builds, which is use the stylus hole after going to shutdown in the system.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] thebulletfromhell:
Great build, but wifi dowsn't work. Is there a fix?? I'm running it in a kaiser and everything else that is known to work work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Yes! http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6181864&postcount=227