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[G1 Android Development] Kutttt:
I know but once I update will the kernel change back to Super D's or will WG's kernel remain the same and everything else update like it normally would? Thanks, and I am sorry for calling you a clown noob.
[G1 Android Development] skyundersea:
This is just a test, he isn't planning on updating this version regularly. If all goes well here, Ben will include the WG kernel in the official ROM.
[G1 Android Development] :
This is only in testing mode, but from the reports Ben will be using this kernel from now on and used in future builds so all future updates will include this kernel. Wes has only posted this for Ben to get feedback :)

And when did you call me a clown noob? I don't take much notice of insults I'm afraid unless there real good ones that make me laugh ;)

No harm no foul :D
[G1 Android Development] dangambino:
essel has different color themed nexus and hero launchers for most roms. look in android themes forum
[G1 Android Development] ngtfr:
ok reinstalled 1.9.3 : Conclusion, basic one is faster on application launching / back to homescreen & also more responsive in menus & settings etc.. But the scrolling thing i mentionned is actually the same on WG & not, changing screen in the home on WG is much faster tho, but that's actually the only benifit I can see.

I will stick up with stock 1.9.3 for now, but if you have any ideas/comments i'm willing to hear it =)
[G1 Android Development] SpiggidyBob:
This thing is ridiculous. OC'd to 528 and running JIT....wow.....Props to you both.
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
installed this after king's hero and wow, makes my phone almost as fast as my milestone! def keeping this on my phone.
[G1 Android Development] sianaka:
3G speed

I just noticed my 3G speed is slightly slower than it was. I noticed a thread somewhere that replaced the trout.prop. I am wondering if I just have bad connection because the weather sucks or if I should try that script to replace the build.prop. Anyone have any input?
[G1 Android Development] n10zf8:
How to get the JIT

Not to come off as a complete bonehead, but i like having my G1 to test stuff on and just want to ask a quick question. If iI use the info and files found here: | xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=637419 | would I be able to put JIT into this ROM?

like I said it may be a bonehead question but I am seeing much success with others running JIT and the WG kernel and would like to give it a go without running too much risk of a brick.

If someone could confirm or redirect if needed it would be great.

thanks i can do graphics no prob but the kernels and programming i leave to the smart guys..
[G1 Android Development] skyundersea:
Yes. You can.
[G1 Android Development] phatmanxxl:
Not sure if its just me but i think my battery drains a lot quicker since I flashed this ROM. It wont even barley take a charge with my GF's motorola charger.

Besides that, this ROM shall be nicknamed Super Duper D or Super Double D...eh whatever, it has wiings.
[G1 Android Development] n10zf8:
thanks givin a go just now

appreciate the help
[G1 Android Development] CaptainShanks:
HOLY **** this is fast when you do the JIT hack :D
[G1 Android Development] 1wingangel:
A:any way to port this kernel to fasttest?

or

B:any way to port the app drawer tab from fasttest to this rom?

(all I really want is an invisible app drawer tab)
[G1 Android Development] themetatron:
this is a definite improvement to superd, and that's definitely saying something considering the magic ben worked on cyanogen's kernAl. i'm sure with a little ben tweakage of the wg kernAl this will only get better.
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Been running this for over 15 hours and it is hands down my favorite rom....its just like Super D but a tad snappier.

I love this thank you!:D
[G1 Android Development] n10zf8:
so far soooooooooooooooo good!!!

Ok got the JIT in it, although from a serious noob to not so noob in a little over an hour wasn't part of the plan. i now understand quite a few more console commands, so it was worth it. got all 96 apps installed, running home++ as a launcher replacement with 7 screens and a dozen or so widgets.

No FC have used usb tether, wi-fi tether, 3d pong works?(i thought this was a RamHack) but maybe it isn't really 3d, loaded custom framework-res.APK all black and blue and even changed out the media files from a fender build lying around on the threads...did all this using android commander - no errors - which is why i didn't install the other 1.9.3 i sure am glad i came to check on whether those issues had been resolved and stumbled on this.

IMO this rocks!!! i will edit this post with updates for you over next couple days as i use and abuse and do switch-a-roos!

Great Job guys thanks a BUNCH.
[G1 Android Development] xaueious:
I don't plan to test both kernels to compare speeds, but seems to be stable enough for me so far
[G1 Android Development] Meepage360:
Sorry to drag everyone away from the JIT talk but ive noticed that on my phone, i havent got JIT installed but i cant seem to get any videos to play back, youtube plays audio for a few secs then says cant play video and beebplayer seems to ignore wifi and load very fuzzy and video freezes after 1-2 seconds of playback but sound carrys on. Is this a known problem with ramhack or because of the kernel. is it fixable?
[G1 Android Development] Loccy:
Well I'm liking the combo of this and the JIT stuff at the moment. All subjective but it seems fluid and smooth all round.
[G1 Android Development] Klyentel:
I have been testing since last night, and I gotta say this is the best setup I ever ran, yes, keep the wg kernel with super d.....ultimate combo, nothing even remotely compares to it:cool:
[G1 Android Development] domenukk:
I've had only one issue with JIT so far.

Couldn't get mystique 3 to run.

No problems without JIT.

But on this rom, this is no issue... mystique is a 3d game :p

Back to csdi.4 without JIT without Ramhack. fastest and best Rom to date...
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
I was in the same exact boat. Being my only phone and quite novice to android "hacking" in relative terms, I have been trying to avoid Danger SPL like the plague. So when I saw this thread, needless to say I was very excited. I've actually been stuck on an old WG build rom for several months now because it was the only that never gave me any problem and always flashed. Well goodbye Build Y R1 for good! This bad boy flashed up and was ready to rock in under 5 minutes! I literally haven't even tried anything out on the rom yet and I love it. Everything is crisp, looks sharper, and the black mod is excellent. Never had it before, but now I never want to go back. I must say great work by the both of you and much thanks for making this super combo available to "SPL *****es" like myself. Appreciations and salutations.
[G1 Android Development] ianandamy:
so after a couple of days say with wg or go to jit any issues with overflow or ram leaks like in superd bfs kernel?
[G1 Android Development] Klyentel:
Ben should create his own custom kernel now...

that way him, wes, and cyan will all have a kernel out there...or maybe, they could combine creating what could be called:

The Cygarnerben kernel.......lol:D
[G1 Android Development] CaptainShanks:
It should be called... The Baconator.
[G1 Android Development] dotnetguyaz:
Just a tad snappier? I have been running it 24 hours now and I have to say that it flies on my MT3G. Simply amazing...
[G1 Android Development] tlisak25:
running smooth

Just flashed over regular super d and is running super smooth. Thanks for all of the hard work. It is greatly appreciated and no wipe is required. Also if you could do a white notification bar with nexus launcher:D
[G1 Android Development] chingonx:
I really Like this Combo with Super D, just have one concern my internet is running slow and its not running 3G speed, just shows E at the top. I came from Super D 1.8.1 and the net was faster. it also had 3g icon on top, upon net activity... Any ideas... Thanks
[G1 Android Development] sianaka:
Hmmm....

Not sure if this will help or not, but I tried it and it seems to have helped me...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5081309&postcount=7036

Let me know if this is a waste of time.
[G1 Android Development] chingonx:
Hey Thanks Alot It worked, Net is faster now and 3g is working. Love this ROM.....
[G1 Android Development] docsparks:
call log force closes, no names in fav's, or contacts.

no idea what the hell happend.

i flashed this the morning it came out, installed everything fixed permissions and reset phone, since then i havent turned it off, or reset it once and it has been running great.

for no particular reason, again ive done nothing, i started to have random FC's, particularly swype [when im not even using it ] and the acore.process, so i run fix permissions and reset my phone, and all i can get to is dialer, i get FC's on acore.process when i click call log, and even on an incoming call, i get a forceclose.

oh, and all my messages, no numbers show up at all, just the messages, well it says "..." for the name

what the hell did i do? / happend?

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sorry, cant post anything, i got hard drive #3 in the mail yesterday from WD and havent had time to set everything up on my phone to look further into this. 3rd hard drive this month. besides being very prompt with warrenty, Western Digital makes terrible, terrible hard drives.
[G1 Android Development] |Logic|:
feels snappier for sure, u should adopt this kernel ben
[G1 Android Development] AndroidFiend:
I think you did the whole fresh wipe process wrong. You should first wipe (reset phone) then flash this awesome rom and then run fix permissions. That should work out better for you.
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
For about 4 months, not this rom, but any rom I have had flashed on my phone I seem to experience EDGE a whole lot more than I used too. Would doing this bring me back consistent 3G?

Also, the process is simply unzipping the contents onto the root of your sd, going into term em and inputting the first set of code that was posted. Is it just that? Thanks in advance.
[G1 Android Development] treperio:
don't' exist the super d white ramhack wg kernel???? there is only the black version with wg kernel?
[G1 Android Development] lethal:
i love this rom! its better!
[G1 Android Development] Pfeffernuss:
For the time being, yes. It's a beta to test things out you know :cool:
[G1 Android Development] s15274n:
My order of preference, AND ONE ISSUE WITH THIS ROM:

1.9.2 > 1.9.3 WG > 1.9.3.

I loved superd with wes's kernel, but for some reason I was only getting GPRS signal. I had to revert back to 1.9.2 (because .3 seemed to have TS issues) and just like that I was back on 3G.

Wes, love your kernel with superd though. Thanks for experimenting.
[G1 Android Development] ultra spikey:
Here's some feedback with numbers...

Test were performed after fresh install. ROMs were not signed into google. Test were ran in Airplane Mode. Only apps installed are Advanced Task Manager, SetCPU, Swapper, Benchmark, BenchmarkPI and Linpack. Ended all processes before test. I took the top results instead of the average because some of the results were inconsistent between test.

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ROMS TESTED

-KING HERO

SetCPU @ 384min/528max

Swapper @ 96mb @ 80 swappiness

-SUPERD 1.9.3 w/ and w/o JIT

SetCPU @ 384min/528max

Swap & CC disabled

-SUPERD 1.9.3 w/ WG KERNAL + JIT

SETCPU @ 384min/528max

Swap & CC disabled

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--BenchmarkPI(Best out of 5 runs)(lower the better)--

KING HERO 1.2 =	13,148 ms

KING HERO 1.3 =	12,800 ms

SD193-NRH-PREJIT =	12,135 ms

SD193-NRH-POSTJIT =	8,914 ms

SD193-WGK-POSTJIT =	8,923 ms

--Benchmark by softweg(Best out of 5 runs)--

KING HERO 1.2 CPU =	156.63

KING HERO 1.3 CPU =	164.90

SD193-NRH-PREJIT CPU =	165.66

SD193-NRH-POSTJIT CPU =	301.58

SD193-WGK-POSTJIT CPU =	297.98

--Linpack(Best out of 5 runs)--

KING HERO 1.2 =	2.353 mflops

KING HERO 1.3 =	2.354 mflops

SD193-NRH-PREJIT =	2.356 mflops

SD193-NRH-POSTJIT =	3.643 mflops

SD193-WGK-POSTJIT =	3.597 mflops
[G1 Android Development] Ghost117:
Hey, I am trying to really optimise my system, and it looks like this is the Rom to do it. My plan right now it SuperD 1.93 with WG Kernel and the RamHack + JIT.

SO I was wondering if disabling apps to sd and only having one partition would also help speed up the phone? (I dont really need extra room for apps). And does swap still work without a second partition?
[G1 Android Development] :
So the test with numbers show that 1.9.3 with no ramhack and no jit is the fastest opinion?

And people wonder why I don't use benchmark tools, they can't compensate for the hidden factors within a mobile phone. A spike in signal strength, proccess's not accessable, network communication etc

Sorry to be a benchmark hater but they just aint able to give proper readings as far as I'm concerned.
[G1 Android Development] Neejay:
Well, I'd assume after Ben sees enough positive feedback, he'll probably include this in his next build or *possibly* improve on it and build his own.
[G1 Android Development] ultra spikey:
One thing I forgot to note, I did not sign into google after flashing the rom, and all test were done in Airplane Mode. This was to cut down on background network communication.
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
HAHAHHAHA wow

Lets review...

SD193-NRH-PREJIT = 2.356 mflops

SD193-NRH-POSTJIT = 3.643 mflops

SD193-WGK-POSTJIT = 3.597 mflops

HIGHER THE BETTER

SD193-NRH-PREJIT = 12,135 ms

SD193-NRH-POSTJIT = 8,914 ms

SD193-WGK-POSTJIT = 8,923 ms

LOWER THE BETTER

KING HERO 1.2 CPU = 156.63

KING HERO 1.3 CPU = 164.90

SD193-NRH-PREJIT CPU = 165.66

SD193-NRH-POSTJIT CPU = 301.58

SD193-WGK-POSTJIT CPU = 297.98

THIS TEST IS OLD AND OUTDATED

now please tell me how you came to the conclusion that the stock super d was the fastest?
[G1 Android Development] ianandamy:
running great for me faster and without the mem leaks that reg super d has.
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
AFAIK the mem leaks were fixed in the regular Super D in 1.9
[G1 Android Development] chingonx:
This Rom is great, I love it, very very did I say very fast, Smooth, had one problem all fixed now. no FC. Great JOB
[G1 Android Development] chingonx:
I ran the first set of code, and BAM had 3g running, phone will idle at Edge but when surfing its 3g.....
[G1 Android Development] ultma75:
Ben

I think super d 1.10 should be running wes' kernel next built with your tweaks it would be a killer!
[G1 Android Development] Neejay:
Ugh, I didn't know this was a black themed kernal. I totally overlooked the file name

I'll just settle with the slight lag of Ben's 1.9.3. :(
[G1 Android Development] sianaka:
GPS issue in the geniewidget

Genie widget dosn't turn on GPS and keeps telling me I'm in London, when I live in California.
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
Are mock locations on?
[G1 Android Development] sianaka:
mock locations?

I'm not sure what mock locations are...

edit: I have it set to use my location instead of setting location manually.
[G1 Android Development] :
Well either I'm missing something or you are!

First one - Higher is better right so that makes stock with JIT & no ram hack faster.

Second one - Lower is better so that makes stock with JIT & no ram hack faster

That to me makes stock faster than both stock with ramhack and WG Kernel no? Also isn't JIT just a primary app accelerator speeding up the dalvik vm and in an unstable state as of yet meaning again the tests are tainted?

Edit: G1forfun just read an interesting post of yours in the JIT thread slaggin JIT off saying it does nothing more than make synthetic increases on benchmarking so proving my point further that the tests are just crap basically and mean bugger all. I actually prefer v1.8 to all the above anyway so I really don't care much :D
[G1 Android Development] Pfeffernuss:
No, actually they're the same speed as the differences are within measurement tolerancies.
[G1 Android Development] :
So all in all meaning the tests are pointless and proving my point you cannot efffectivly benchmark a phone specially using JIT as part of that comparison.

Thing is that makes it even worse are there are those with a good few hundred apps, screens, widgets running so whilst one may be good at the lower consumption range another may out perform at the higher usage stage.

There is no effective way to benchmark! People use there phones for different things so its a case of what people feel works best for them. As I have said for me its SuperD v1.8 making pretty much everything else before kind of irrelevent and that includes my earlier post saying I liked this better at the begining. After a while I found it lagged, was slower returning to home screen and I had issuse with black screens anytime I asked the phone to do anything to do with the sdcard (yet some will say they see none of this). None of which I see on 1.8 yet I know of people who hated 1.8 and others who still as myself use it. Then you have to consider sdcard size and usage, swap sizes etc.

All I'm saying is there will NEVER be a way to benchmark with true results.
[G1 Android Development] ultra spikey:
Can you provide some documentation proving that JIT does not provide accurate benchmark results? 1 of the 3 benchmark apps I use is the same one being used in the JIT thread. Each benchmark app benchmarks the phone differently, and when ALL 3 apps say one ROM is faster(or slower) than the other, it kind of makes it believable that maybe the results could be right.

You probably can not compare benchmark results from one phone to another, but from the SAME phone that has the SAME configuration(No extra apps, widgets, network connection, background processes, etc.) during each test, you can compare results.
[G1 Android Development] docsparks:
I have 4 working G1's here, that could all be wiped if there needs to be some sort of side by side showdown of benchmarks with all exact same setups..

Just need a lil instruction here.

Nexus in under 12 more hours! score!
[G1 Android Development] ultra spikey:
There's no reason to run benchmarks....what you could do is install the STOCK SuperD 1.9.3 and with JIT on one phone, then on another phone install this SuperD with WG Kernal and with JIT. I would maybe put a task manager on both phones to kill processes before running tests. And just disable CompCache and Swap. I also put SetCPU on my test just to make sure the processors were running at the same speed(384min/528max). Also, put the phones in Airplane Mode before testing.

Then do some side by side comparisons on how long it takes to open up some applications. Like the browser, messaging app, dialer, maybe some big games? You can even time it on how long it takes.
[G1 Android Development] chev:
Hi Wes,

Where can i get the android loader that you are using in your rom? i want to use it on my ubuntu box
[G1 Android Development] :
I would also like to see benchmarking without killing all process's and just using a task killer as most do to kill apps and also a phone running only a few apps comapred with one using over 100 apps and see the difference between the NRH/RM/WGK & JIT on those settings to see if there is a differnce between lower & higher memory usage and see if one outdoes another. Also benchmarking of sdcard usage size & speed with the phone. Again we start to run to many variables to do a conclusive test. Putting the phone into airplane defeats the object of network usage and the varibles involved which means your testing nothing other than a blank machine which again is pointless and proves nothing to anyone.

The test needs to be done against a phone that is used mainly as a phone, few apps and odd bit of surfing, three screens and hardly any widgets against say like my setup which is more a laptop than a phone, 275 apps, 5 homescreens, 65 widgets and 6 of those updating from the net.

Again all pointless because someone may have only 4 screens, 20 apps and find one works better for that setup than what I find better for mine. Do you see what I'm getting at. Benchmarking is impossible on a phone, just to many differing variables.
[G1 Android Development] Jaivee:
Only problem i run into is that advanced launcher loses all of its icons after pressing the home button coming from memory heavy apps.
[G1 Android Development] ultra spikey:
The way that I look at it is...lets say we run BenchmarkPI on "ROM A" in Airplane Mode with no apps installed and it runs at 10,000ms. Then we run BenchmarkPI on "ROM A" out of Airplane Mode and 80 apps installed with multiple widgets, lets say it runs at 14,000ms. That is a 4,000ms difference.

Now, we benchmark "ROM B" in Airplane Mode with no apps, it runs at 8,000ms. Out of Airplane Mode and with 80 apps installed/multiple widgets, it runs at 12,000ms. It's still a 4,000ms difference.

The point I'm trying to make is, the differences between a "blank machine" and a "loaded machine" should be relatively the same between each tested ROM. I just test using a "blank machine" just to get more consistent results.
[G1 Android Development] :
Nice hypothesis but still inaccurate as rom A's kernel could be better at low usage and rom B's kernel better at higher usage and more capable of handling it.

I guess we can chalk this down to your never ever going to convince me on this and unless someone can prove my points untrue which no-one has come close to yet guess we should just put this discussion to bed.
[G1 Android Development] ultra spikey:
haha well, maybe we can run benchmarks while the operating system is under load? Have an app run in the background then run the benchmark.
[G1 Android Development] G1ForFun:
Usually when you benchmark you want nothing running in the back ground....that is how you try to make it as even as possible.
[G1 Android Development] ultra spikey:
That's what I thought too...PC benchmark softwares run the same way I think.
[G1 Android Development] :
Your joking right?

All my benchmarks are based on a customers usage requirements allowing me to select the best cpu most suitable to there needs, can't switch a G1 cpu.

And been custom building PC's for 22 years and never yet benchmarked an unloaded cpu. Seriously what the fook is the point of benchmarking a machine that is doing bugger all. It tells you nothing about what its load capabilities are for various machine uses/ gaming/office/both/memory intensive/light user.

You can't even begin to compare a PC with a phone, a PC can change its cpu to suit the user. A phone can't.
[G1 Android Development] ultra spikey:
The reason I said that is because the benchmark apps for Android seem to only benchmark using the amount of time it takes to solve some kind of math. I am just assuming that these apps do not put any kind of load on the system during the test.

But then, there are benchmarking softwares for PC's that do test using equation solving, so are those softwares inaccurate also?