[Windows Phone 7 General] eaglesteve:
My 2 cents contribution to this thread.

There are many non-Apple sanctioned applications that give the equivalent of info at a glance a la today screen.

Jailbroken iPhones multitasks.

More hardware button is not necessary. As they say, less is more.

iPhone can have the Xbox integration that you talk about. Strangely it was not provided by microsoft. Read this article:

http://www.geek.com/articles/games/...-bring-xbox-360-games-to-the-iphone-20100315/

I doubt the hardware standard is going to be better. In the case of Apple, everything that goes into the phone is optimized specifically for iPhone, so they're more likely to get good performance all round.

Some aspect of the lockdown can be bypassed by jailbreaking. For example, if you're a developer wanting to put in your own program without Apple approval, you can always do so, like many have done. In fact, many applications recently rejected by Apple have found their way to the Cydia store.

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Free Microsoft Office (Document viewing, creation, downloading, and editing)

File downloads (possibly)

Apps like a Wi-Fi router and file manager will likely come and be allowed

XBOX LIVE! Enough said.

1GHz Snapdragon is the processor minimum (This will lead to awesome apps and games)

WVGA display minimum (You might not care too much about this one, but I've seen the difference, and it's AMAZING!)

Bing search (That's just my preference.)

Contextual search (A handy feature, I suppose.)

There is not an app collection of 100,000 with most of which being totally useless. This means that you"ll be able to find the good apps.

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The office documents software on iPhone is way way better than the free ms office mobile. Tons of choices and cleverly designed user interface.

File download is impeccable on iPhone.

Hardware will always be upgraded with each new phone. Hard to see what the big deal is about snapdragon. The final speed and fluidity is what counts.

Bing search is available in iPhone, together with google, yahoo, and other popular search engine that you prefer.

The 150,000 application is a strength. What's wrong with having hundreds of GPS navigation software to pick and choose from? Or having 70 web browser all competing fiercely with each other for attention? It is a joy looking for and trying them out for me. Don't get bored that way.

+1. That's why I said "Bull ****" when Steve Jobs says multitasking consumes more battery and slows down the phone. I don't find it slowing down or consume more battary frankly - Not noticeable anyway. I agree it has an performance impact only on 3G, but not 3GS usually. Most of the applications simply need to stay dormant and not take up resources actively, so I find that opening many of them to allow instant switching to and from them do not pose a problem.

I disagree that a multitasking iPhone need to be slow. For 3G I agree, but not 3GS. For the hardware spec given my MS for WPS7, there is no reason to worry about performance penalty IMO.

I listen to internet radio while reading through the 1000+ google reader RSS newsfeed entries. This requires two third party software, which is why jailbreaking and multitasking on my iPhone is an absolute must. This would not be possible with WPS7 since two third party applications are involved.

I may also download a 800MB movie on my iPhone (using a third party web browser) and while waiting, use another third party application to enjoy browsing some nice pictures.;) I do it all the time with my iPhone now.

Another possible scenarios is to keep the VOIP client running in the background (so that you can receive call) while using the Navigation software.

Some of you mentioned that whether or not iPhone multitask it will still be smooth. This I agree. It will however, become a little unresponsive if you're having way way too many applications opened, especially on a 3G. On a 3GS, it is smooth weather you multitask or not.

Low res is a shortcoming of iPhone. Let's not make excuse for Apple. They can make the pictures a lot sharper. Having said that picture sharpness is not everything. (I would never want HD2's pink pictures, pink videos and wash out night shots.) You need lots of good camera software to do stuffs like taking panaromic picture easily, taking picture with very very bright as well as very very dark spots on the same pictures, changing the exposure/put in picture frames/captions/text on the picture without using a PC, etc. iPhone is excellent in these regards.

Absolutely true. That's because the so called locked down weakness is also its biggest strength in that it controls the whole process of building the phone, end to end, and everything is optimized to work properly.

You don't need to sacrifice multitasking with iPhone, or customizability, or freedom of installing whatever software you want. Don't like iTune? Don't use it, there are many alternatives. It is completely within your control mate.

Not really true. Just about every other day or week I can find some new development which significantly enhance and changes the look and feel of the OS. Don't like to scroll the springboard horizontally? Guess what you can scroll vertically. Don't like to be limited to just 4 docked applications? Guess what? You can have more and scroll horizontally. Someone is just about to release the mode to allow springboard to toggle so that you can use the springboard not just vertically but also in landscape!

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I don't think they will be as stupid as Apple and stop GPS navigation when a call is ringing in.

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On my iPhone, GPS navigation continues to track it's position when you answer the phone call. When the phone call is done, it immediately shows my car in the correct position and continues giving my direction. It does not stop - just running in the background.

You can switch from any application to any others just like in WM once you JB your phone.

Nothing switches applications more easily than jailbroken iPhone. If you want to rotate through active applications like ALt+Tab, you can use Circuitous to do exactly that, and you can choose to cycle forward or backward through the active applications.

It is not possible if you do not jailbreak your iPhone. It is possible once you jailbreak it. Let's state the full facts rather than just half truths.

I suppose some of you might say that "Oh, but I don't want to jailbreak my phone. I want it to have all these features out of the box".

Well, strange that the very same people who complains that iPhone is not customizable and tweakable suddenly refuse to tweak and customise in order to get those functions and features. Yet the same people have no problem doing hard spl, cooking and flashing custom ROM instead of using their winmo phone out of the box.

Pros and cons I think. When you said clearly better, have you considered the camera lense that give you the pink hue in picutres and video? Or the ability to handle graphics? Or the strange behaving touch screen? Or the buttons that either accidentally reject a call while you try to fish it out of your pocket? But I agree that the higher screen size and resolution, higher megapixels and camera lense are better.

Mine is jailbroken 3GS and always multitask third party applications. There is NO noticeable difference in speed. Absolutely no difference that I can feel.

+1 to this. There are many tasks where HD2 would not stand a chance against 3GS speed wise, and what you mention here is one of them. Anything that has graphics, games, are also examples. Also, try browsing a hugh library of pictures on both devices. Or playing 2000+ songs with the sense's music player and compare that to using iPhone's music player?

Anyone who says playing 720p video is irrelevant is being selective in the comparison, don't you think?

Another factor that has not been mentioned by anyone of you is the fact that iPhone gives you much more CONSISTENT performance. In other word, it is always fast. In the case of winmo devices, my experience has been that it can be very fast at times, then out of no reasons it can become very laggy, requiring reboot frequently. Also, even with a freshly reset winmo device, you will find that at certainly places tasks flies, while in others it lags seriously. Not so with iPhone which is consistently fast everywhere.

Mind you, you're comparing HD2 with 3GS now. What do you think the picture will look like in a couple of more months with iPhone 4G? The best of WM6x phones stays goes obsolete with its extremely dated applications while iPhone marches on with newer hardware, firmware, and even more applications?

I have working hotmail and live messenger on my iPhone too. Don't understand what problem you're having.

As for keyboard, it is a matter of preference I guess, but I hate hardware keyboard as it can't handle foreign languages like a software keyboard could. Also, with iPhone keyboard, you can type very fast. Don't believe me? Watch this demonstration:

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/03/ridiculously-fast-iphone-typist-shames-soft-keyboard-haters/

I actually find a jailbroken iPhone far more customizable than winmo phone. That can be another big topic that we can go into if you wish.