yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wardh:
Is the 2.08 Radio needed for this ROM even if I don't won't the extra RAM? Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
WoW :eek: Can't wait!

Edit: BG all black = not set to weather wallpaper by default? would be 1 less thing to worry about :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
nah, i didnt change that, however, if you want to turn off weather animation without using a background image, change this reg key

hkey_local_user\software\htc\manila\Home.WallpaperMode to 2
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
Thx for that one
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
there are some new screenshots in first post of the new v1.00, gust to get your mout watering before it "bloody eventually" uploads :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ways:
Thanks, really thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
v1.00 looking nice, I moved to Miri after having some issues with a few things visually but those icons look a LOT better - think it's time to flash again! I take it 24hr time is available?

Any chance of a mirror on Megaupload, get full bandidth on that and RS barely has free slots!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
RS is the mirror, originally it's on MU?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
ur right, waiting on it now!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tboy2000:
Does this rom have documents and ereader tabs? yes please upload screenshots of new icons. I went to another rom because of poor icons in previous versions so woud like to see the improved icons to consider to flash to this one again. Thanks!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
see page 1, pictures now updated
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ways:
NET Framework 3.5 included?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
Another question, is the sms sent notification in this ROM? I hate it with a passion so hope it's not present in this build...also, how do you set the start menu background to be the 'chainmail' looking one as per stock ROMs?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
1) sent notification is NOT present

2) chainmail background not available (i have deleted them), you can always use any image you want, thats the whole purpose of this rom. Customisable as you wish

3).NET 3.5 is in the rom

4) Documents tab yes, ereader no
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ways:
still upload?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
yes, but very very slowloy. ETA within 12 hours :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pongster:
That is slooooow... by the time the upload is done you've reached the next build milestone internally:)

I also have slow transfer times too so by the time I'm able to completely download v1.0 you'll be in v1.5:D

Can't wait to test this out! I've got my Sashimi Auto Phase Ready to go just for this...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
Anyone got the 'chainmail' background, or is it on a stock ROM somewhere? If so, what folder is it in?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wardh:
No one?

Please, I would like to try this ROM but I don't want to change my 2.06 radio.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
i took it out of mine ;) along with twitter!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Windkracht13:
+ 1, for take it out...

I always set it off, don't use it.

Keep Tweeter in please.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Unbalanced Reaction:
+1 Please take out footprints
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sat1986:
-1

I DO use footprints... I travel lots and find it very neat... particularly awesome when snowboarding.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] disflipissofresh:
Is there a way to fix when typing on the message, it highlights the text and not end up seeing what your typing?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
no because that is intended behaviour, programed by HTC and is present in all roms
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
ah you bugge*! ill have to make one with and one without now! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jandev:
Footprints can go out. Maybe make a cab for it for those who like it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
Everyone:

About the lockscreen notfication issues.

This is a side effect of my removal of something. In all my tests i cannot get it to work the way you guys have said it does in the past. and i honestly cannot remember ever having seen what your on about on my own phone, EVER! :confused:

so, im not sure what path to take here, but to me it does nt seem like a big deal to be honest, its not like its any extra work to get to the message etc anyway! ?!?!?!

EDIT:

in my attempts to figure this little conundrum out i have also made some interesting discoveries, and i reckon i have made my fastest ever ROM, purely by chance!!! :D its also quite a bit smaller! :D:D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Windkracht13:
Hhahahaaha, your funny... I need my "update shot"

Whene is the Rom up???
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jandev:
can t wait.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
tomorrow if your a good boy :)

hey its not like im addicted to cooking or flashing(:D), its just you guys keep finding bugs which makes me have to fix them :p :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jandev:
Can it be updated with spb backup or do you reccomend a clean install?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
probably not :(

*runs and hides from eddy.....:p*
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jandev:
Better hide for the misses:eek::eek:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] brombleybybow:
Hi g.lewarne

Just downloaded v1.2 (ROM 2.1 base) and it is really fast! Good job and thanks mate.

Could you let me know where I could get the original wall papers from? I liked those, and would want to have them on this fast ROM.

Many thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] disflipissofresh:
Thanks, I kinda noticed that too when i first flashed the Energy rom.

Great ROM by the way. Pretty Fast and stable.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] VeEuzUKY:
Never use footprints. I do use stocks always.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ReX83:
I'm using an old build of CleanEx (1.17) and now I want to move to the latest CleanEx HQ.

Do you think it is possible to make a backup of the entire system?

I think that I'll loose my registry tweaks and others mods because the backup software can't understand what to restore and what to not restore because new rom buid has new registry values and key or new dll.

Thank you.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pongster:
Even faster? will be out of the loop for a while since I'll be facilitating some workshops for a client out of town and am on a reaaallllyy slooooowww connection (yes gav, almost as slow as your home connection:))

Looking forward to the "Faster" ROM... (and Kitchen patch:))

I personally change the lockscreen and use the HD2 Mini Lockscreen or S2U2 so the lockscreen fix is not too much of an issue.

+1 to remove Footprints, btw, since I always hide it anyway... isn't there a "hidden" gps mode in the camera function?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] adeeb:
Hi, first thank you for your great roms. they are exactly what we need , clean , fast and without all the eyecandy other roms have. this way we can skin it to our own liking.

i would request you to fix the lockscreen since its very handy to get an sms or a call and go directly to it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] hazem77:
First, thanks for the great ROM, very stable and really fast...

As for the lock screen, i have no issue with that, just like i never saw what the guys are talking about!

Footprint, so here too, i dont use it.

I was just wondering of two things:

i tried both HQ and Regular120 but honestly i could figure out whats the differnce? what HQ stands for btw?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] elite12:
NLD

Any chance for a NLD cleanex rom ? :D

If not i'll just flash the English one.

your nice clean fast rom is really what i'm looking for;)

Thanks in advance.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RE795:
I don't use it either
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
Gav you really don't know what we are talking about?

It's a Windows 6.5 thing, not from htc, and here is a screen :D

http://www.htc.com/uploadedImages/Common/HowTo/HTC_HD2/S_Lock_screen_notification.png
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] daigoro64:
...and you can have up to two "extra" sliders, one for unanswered calls and one for unreaded SMSs.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
Exactly ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] disflipissofresh:
I don't know if it's just me or anyone else but everytime I launch the camera, the camera button thumbnail or whatever you wanna call it doesn't show on the screen, just blank.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] greg1fraser:
even smaller n faster christ soon u will have the hd2 that small nothing left lol Eta??? im waiting patiently
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
really, i have never seen that!!!!

i think i know what the issue is, but im loathe to fix it due to putting 6mb of crap back in the rom :(

i will consider it

*goes and sits on pondering chair*
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
yeah i deleted it. why waste 670kb of space on a picture of a camera when you KNOW you just launched the camera because you pressed the icon! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
To all those concerned with the lockscreen "sliders", we have got a fix !!!

It'll hopefully be included in the next build already Gav?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
yeah, i came to the same conclusion as you did about what it must be? i presume you have tested it because im rebuilding now! if it is that let me know :)

EDIT: yea it is because you PM'd me :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Schooleydoo:
I know this is going against the ideals of the ROM, but it is a small one!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=548050

:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
Indeed tested and confirmed :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
i knew it!!!!! :p

i always install this too, i have tried cooking it in but it does not work. i think outlooks settings are created during the post flash "setting up your phone for first use..." process and only after that does installing this work. so sorry, tried and failed on that one. :confused:

but at least i tried :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
I can confirm that Diego has helped me fix the lockscreen issues, and that it work ok now. will have the new roms uploaded this afternoon.

Kitchen users:

to fix the lockscreen issue, include the "CHome" SYS package (i disabled it) and rebuild your rom. I was stupid in thinking "i have disabled it but nothing is broken", basically :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] JamesRC:
Thanks g.lewarne. Look forward to it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] solo21hd2:
V. excited. Any updates on an ETA?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
new roms will be up in about 30 mins now :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chri55tof:
I wasn`t able to fully drain my battery after last flash and there is new ROM coming lol :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] elite12:
Crap just flashed to TURBO 1.20 and i love it so much so is it really usefull to flash the new one?

i mean this one is soo fast i love it

Thanks allot
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
*** New Roms are out ***

see first post for details and downloads.

Let me know if the lockscreen issues are sorted, if they are i can rest easy and take my break from cooking for a while, finally ;):D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wardh:
Wow big update, from 1.05 to 1.54 =D

Downloading it now, hopefully this will be the one! I'm getting addicted to ROM flash ;-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RE795:
Downloading......
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chri55tof:
RS mirror ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
huh yeah, it took me 49 builds to figure out it was something simple! :o
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RE795:
We learn something new everyday?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RE795:
Probally a very noob question.....

will updating to new HSPL2 have any adverse effect on these roms?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
Coming up mate

Uploading as following:

1.54 WITH Footprint to RS.com ... busy ... ETA: 17min

1.54 WITHOUT Footprint to RS.com ... second

1.54 WITH Footprint to MU.com ... third

1.54 WITHOUT Footprint to MU.com ... fourth

Any preferences about the order of 2-3-4? :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Meeko1981:
Hey. Been using the CleanEx HQ rom for a few days now and I have to say, i'm very impressed. Great work.

My only questions would be :

Can you include Opera Mobile 10 as the default browser (remove Opera 9)

and

Are you planning on working on a WM6.5.x variant of this ROM?

Neither are a deal-breaker for me and I am happily using the ROM as it is at present (just about to flash 1.54) but they would definately be nice!

Keep up the good work.

Cheers,

G
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sat1986:
They are sorted! Now you can chill out! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
flashed and now setting up - dowloading the stock 1.72 ROM and stock 2.10 so I can get cooking myself!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
- Update -

1.54 WITH Footprint to RS.com ... http://rapidshare.com/files/367252741/CleanEX_HQ_1.54_WITH_FOOTP.zip.html

1.54 WITHOUT Footprint to RS.com ... http://rapidshare.com/files/367262768/CleanEX_HQ_1.54_WITHOUT_FOOTP.zip.html

1.54 WITH Footprint to MU.com ... busy ... ETA 20 min

1.54 WITHOUT Footprint to MU.com ... fourth
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
Everyone should use MU - nice and fast!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
i would but their web based uploader is not particularly reliable.

Does anyone have some FTP space i can use?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chri55tof:
Why MU ?

I prefer RS, have to pay monthly for members account but always have the max speed (max for my broadband).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
RS.com: yearly mate

MU: lifetime :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
1.54 WITH Footprint to RS.com ... http://rapidshare.com/files/367252741/CleanEX_HQ_1.54_WITH_FOOTP.zip.html

1.54 WITHOUT Footprint to RS.com ... http://rapidshare.com/files/367262768/CleanEX_HQ_1.54_WITHOUT_FOOTP.zip.html

1.54 WITH Footprint to MU.com ... http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AL52EDGJ

1.54 WITHOUT Footprint to MU.com ... http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NQAE6OKQ
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mynamesteve:
downloading now :)

thanks g.lewarne been using your roms for a while now they are by far the fastest ive used and the free space is seriously impressive, you do have some skills :cool:

i have a question tho ;) as the use of bsb tweeks is not advised in your roms, do you know of a program or cab that can set programs to rotate automatically like bsb does? ive been living without it because i cant find anything that does the trick and the registry route is a no go as i set alot of programs to auto rotate. any help would be much apreciated :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
MU always tops out when downloading - but agree the uploader can be a bit flakey

also, anyone got this cab to mark all maill as read? could really do with it!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
i think you can use an application called "Gyrator" to set your rotation in apps

First post updated with all mirrors! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Jallamann:
Hi!

Thank you very much for an outstanding ROM!

Btw.: any chance of getting stk back in (or as a cab). I've search the net and found a stk.rar, but think it's too old...

Ref: 2T105954WJ0688101

best regards,

Hansinegrip
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Windkracht13:
This is also a nice one for screen rotation, changeScreen v2.78

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=466858
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
thank you ever so much, in appreciation i will cook you a special CleanEX 1.54 with STK back in, and post a link on first page when its done tomorrow :) Do you want footprints or not?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
ATTENTION! :D

I have redesigned the layout and look of the first post, and included much more information about the rom to potential users. I hope you all like it :)

SUPER MEGA ATTENTION! :D

take a look at Post #2, we have a new chef on the CleanEX crew :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] elite12:
Can somebody please help me, i flashed the 1.20 TURBO rom ( with 2.7 radio) today, worked fine and i loved it then a new version was posted so i wanted that one but i read in the first post radio 2.9 was recommended so i flashed that first but now my phone hangs on the htc screen.

Is this radio not compatible with my rom?

hard and soft reset don't work so did i brick it now :( ?

first time i flashed a phone :(

thanks in advance.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Jallamann:
Thank you even more! :-)

Yes, with footprints, please - if not big deal for you (which i think it's not, Chef :-)).

Question: The compass, v 1920.3231, with set destination, do you have it? Or maybe there's a reason why you don't cook it in?

If not i can just find a cab.

Thanx alot for you kind help and splendid ROMs!

Best regards,

Hansinegrip
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] VeEuzUKY:
Im about to flash my HD2 with the newest HQ 1.54. This will be the first time I ever flash my phone:) Does this ROM include any updates on the Radio or that should be done separately or not at all? Im still running the (old) stock Radio ROM version 2.05 on my phone.

I read that the recommended version is the 2.09 but I am confused as to also the necessity to udate the Rilphone.dll, for which I dont seem to find a version higher than 2.07:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611787

So, as I read in this thread other members have issues with Radio upgradesm Im a bit confused myself and worried I will kill my phone by doing something stupid.

Should I update my Radio at all or just leave it as it is?

Thanks a lot:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
you can just leave it as it is, but with a newer radio you will probably get better battery life and signal reception / call quality

dont mess around with the rilphone.dll, as has been said a million times all over the forum, it does not need to be changed and if you do often messes up.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
no its not bricked. the reason that you have to use a 2.08/2.07 radio for the 2.10 base roms (old cleanex) is to avoid the situation you have now, a non-booting rom.

all you need to do now is flash the newer CleanEX HQ rom and it will be fine. you will need to put your phone into bootloader mode (remove battery, put battery back in. hold vol down while pressing power button until red green blue screen appears, then connect phone to pc with usb cable, then run CstomRUU)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] VeEuzUKY:
Thanks for the quick response:) I will follow your advice and leave it as it is for now.. I read too many people having issues with upgrades to newer Radios.

Battery life for me is OK on this phone but I have been dissapointed from day one with the sound quality of the HD2, not because of the Radio but because both the speakers (ear and handsfree) are really bad quality... the HD2 is by far the worse sounding phone Ive ever used and i dont think any radio upgrade can fix the hardware limitations...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
im building your ROM now and it will be uploaded tomorrow afternoon, around 2pm GMT :)

and the digital compass - i will change it for the set destination version for my next main release, whenever that will be! (im taking a break, ya know ;))
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] elite12:
It worked,now on your latest rom, im going back to your 1.20 rom not because of the speed or anything just because i really like the things u did with that one.

such as the quicklinks removal thing,575 ram and the nice icons ofc.

ty!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] CanEpia:
Just flashed your new rom and I love it. This is the only negative for me also. would love to have the Stocks tab added back.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] VeEuzUKY:
Yes, would also love to have the Stocks tab back! I used to use it every day before and now had to install MSN Money, a mediocre alternative application with similar functionality but butt ugly and less functional.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vladimobile:
Hello! :) I'm a longtime lurker here, and in fact, this is my first post, so I thought a good way to start is saying a big thank-you to Gavin for the amazing job he is doing here. Love those roms!!

What I actually wanted to say was... I don't expect my opinion to count, but I am among those few who use stocks. Going to try the new HQ 1.54, but I expect I'll have to downgrade to the 1.20 just to get the stocks back.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] adeeb:
Istalled hq 1.54, even faster and its really stable. BIG THANK YOU
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Jallamann:
Excellent, Gavin!

Hope you'll get the time to take that break soon! ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
CleanEX DsE actually sounds almost like how I have my HD2 setup once using CleanEX HQ - seems great minds think alike!!

Might have to give it a try, or get my kitchen working and see what I can do
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
Glad to hear that Eddy!

Take a look at the kitchen mate, you'll have your "ideal" rom in no time ;)

(feel free to test on DsE of course!)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Windkracht13:
Hi Diegis0n,

Im about to flash my HD2 in about a hour, first driving to 'work'

Which cab should I download to background for all?

TH@NKZzz ...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
This for for our Manila version and the one i use ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=636887
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
little suprise for some of you later today :)

keep watching, im not gonna tell what it is, but its only for some of you :p :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
OOOooo, exciting!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RE795:
Would like to be included on this ...Pls.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
what! you want a suprise too? he he ok here is one http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/surprise

lol anyway! it might be for you, but i dont think so :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RE795:
This is a SURPRISE!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
I might be ruining it, but isn't it your stocks-tab-including-rom?

the hints are obvious, not for Eddy? but for some? and you told us yesterday it'd be up today afternoon? :D

If not, than i'm curious too !!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
shhhhhh, keep it quiet, people might here you! :p

ATTENTION!

Diego has ruined the suprise :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
have a look at this :)

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7205/imag0071k.jpg

oh dear, dodgy pot of vaseline lurking that i didnt notice! :o
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Diegis0n:
Ooh wow, that Vaseline is for the fishes right? :D

You look nothing like what i pictured over the last weeks haha!

==> You're missing the CHEF hat! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
yes diego, because the fish need vaseline for their daily sexual encounters :)

in the picture is my small tank, my large one is upstairs. got about 70 fish in total and about a million little shrimp babies at the moment. but i can sell tham at 50p each so its like free money - hey, they do all the hard work ;)