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[Nexus One Android Development] simms22:
if you are afraid to wipe then you shouldnt root your phone. i garranty that you WILL be wiping your phone many times in the future. i must have wiped my g1 more than 30 times and the nexus one 6 or 7 times already. but dont worry, there are always free backup apps like titanium backup ;)
[Nexus One Android Development] kingskidd268:
The Nexus is not like the G1 or mytouch in any way to root the Nexus is Different than any Htc Phone. The Porcessor is not the mt3g or g1. so to try to root it like the mytouch or g1 may bring more problems. Note No mather how you root it the warranty is still void unless you unroot it to send it back in.
[Nexus One Android Development] simms22:
ive used backup for root users for ages(it seems like it). i seriously recommend you try titanium backup, it backs private apps up also.
[Nexus One Android Development] t4tav:
Titanium seems to work well :)

Anyways, Let's move this topic back on track :P
[Nexus One Android Development] texasaggie1:
That's my motivation

We should have a way to "unroot."

I can see the other side to this too. If some yahoo roots their phone, then overclocks it to 2ghz or something and fries it... that SHOULDN'T be covered by warranty.

On the other hand, if I'm running one of cyanogen's roms and the speaker goes out, it should be covered.

Personally, if I fried a ROM because I overclocked it or something like that, I would NEVER send it in for warranty work. I would only send it in if the problem was clearly the manufacturer's.

Just my 2 cents :)
[Nexus One Android Development] swetland:
To be very clear, this behavior (data wipe on unlock) is intentional. Otherwise if your phone is lost or stolen, it would be trivial for somebody to unlock it, boot a custom kernel, and copy your contacts, email, etc from internal flash.

The Market should restore your installed apps automatically, and Settings Backup should be able to restore the bulk of your settings.
[Nexus One Android Development] TailsNeon556:
just a thought... maybe instead of trying to re-lock the bootloader... is there any way to effectively "brick" the Nexus? if it wont boot, then nobody can see if it is unlocked.. right?

just my $0.02
[Nexus One Android Development] seraph1024:
How is this a [how to] thread?
[Nexus One Android Development] seraph1024:
Nuke it. 10 characters
[Nexus One Android Development] Fallen Spartan:
I modified the name of this thread as its slightly misleading due to the fact that its actually not a how-to thread. Its more of a task to find how to root the nexus. I feel once this has been done, thread title could be changed again and first post modified with step-by-step instructions.

I hope you understand my reasons

Rick
[Nexus One Android Development] ~~Tito~~:
We still need to find an alternate root solution because what if HTC gets wise and decides to make a rule to the CS not to allow replacements(On rooted phones) for any reason. Just because we can open the gate doesn't mean we have to go through it(meaning, hop it so it looks like no one opened it).
[Nexus One Android Development] seraph1024:
Don't we have another thread just for this purpose? But for now, you have to pay to play. Help the economy guys. Even if you want to do it $500 at a time.
[Nexus One Android Development] texasaggie1:
What would be a good thing to say

I was hoping this thread could be where we start to figure out, then solve, how to root a nexus one. Could we add [THINK-TANK] or something like that to the title?
[Nexus One Android Development] david1171:
If you did nuke the phone, then you would have to do it in such a way that the phone would not even show the splash screen or else it would be rather obvious with the padlock showing.
[Nexus One Android Development] FettsVett:
Let me just say, I've followed both of these threads since they started, always checked back when there was an update and whatnot.

That being said, it seems that they mostly consist of people who talk about how much they want/need a re-lock/non-official unlock and almost nobody who actually has the know-how or the desire to take it upon themselves to experiment and attempt to find a solution.

So, lets get off the dev's backs. Organize. Do some experiments. If you have something exciting to contribute, please do. Lets just stay on-topic though instead of just saying how much we want this.

I would suggest anybody who's serious about this to read this entire thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=613842

It covers a lot of the ideas that many of you have had. I myself don't care too much for a re-lock - well other than intellectual curiosity; "Can it be done?" :)
[Nexus One Android Development] FettsVett:
Thats good, but I'd suggest you let others know about what your doing, they may be able to help you, or for that matter, point you in the right direction. A lot of talented dev's frequent this forum and may be able to help you.

Otherwise, can't wait to find out :)
[Nexus One Android Development] liam.lah:
Open source, dude.
[Nexus One Android Development] kingklick:
ill tell u right now, there is no reason one cant push su and superuser to obtain those privelages
[Nexus One Android Development] DevPhone1337:
I have personally gotten a repair on a Nexus One with an unlocked bootloader that had an audio issue, so I can guarantee HTC will at least CONSIDER your problem. You pay a $28 triage fee, then they take the phone in and decide whether or not the problem is your fault. If it is, tough sh**, they'll fix it for a price... If not, they repair it like any other warranty repair.
[Nexus One Android Development] Know-Fear:
This whole thread is basically dedicated to the thought that you want to be able to leave your bootloader intact so when you brick the phone, you can get warranty replacement. Ridiculous. If you aren't willing to take the risk, you don't need to root the thing. Simple as that.
[Nexus One Android Development] FettsVett:
It's not ridiculous, its interesting. Don't you want to see if it can be done? Just on technical merit alone, it would be a great achievement. Even better - it would allow us to modify SPL's and whatnot - have full control over our phones - and, to be honest, i would re-lock my boot-loader if I could. Not because I want to break any rules in the warranty agreement, but because it would be nice to be able to return EVERYTHING back to stock on the phone if I want to re-sell it and whatnot.
[Nexus One Android Development] nk02:
if in nexus kernel there is the same bug... it's possible to use this exploit: http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/8678

exploit on tattoo: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5676850
[Nexus One Android Development] ruqqq:
tested. doesn't work. ):

same reason as Eris. we probably need an older .29 kernel (unpatched) for this to work.

if anyone is curious i followed the instruction from the thread, while running toon wars. somehow, you need to flood the memory or something. failed. goodluck!
[Nexus One Android Development] rheza02:
keep it up. :D
[Nexus One Android Development] dahui9:
just saw in adb the other day in the help section when flashing my kernel there was the way to disable root access with a command.. It may not allow to relocking the bootloader but if we can find the source to that file and infact reverse engineer the code could we push it through with adb and get it to at least unroot and root the phone? Unless you need to have the bootloader unlocked to use adb also...

Or is there anything more about the passimg.nbh?

thinking outside the box...

-Charlie
[Nexus One Android Development] palosjr:
You don't need the bootloader to be unlocked to use adb.
[Nexus One Android Development] dahui9:
ok just did a search again and its under 'adb root' and Ill type out exactly what it says.

adb root
-restarts the adbd dameon with root permissions

not sure if anything can be had off of that.. but devs there maybe something to work off of. I lack the extensive skills of programing and such to get into this without a ton of research.

-Charlie
[Nexus One Android Development] pandabear:
does it mean i dont need to root (read:unlock the boot loader) to do the below steps?

adb remount /system/app

adb push c:/CorCAL.apk system/app

sorry i am a noob, i thought unlocking the bootloader was the first step to get root.

(sorry i know i am offtopic)
[Nexus One Android Development] larsdennert:
It'll be interesting to see if the Verizon N1 will be rootable. I'm agonizing between the eris and waiting a couple of weeks for the n1. The extra 100$ is not the issue. The n1 keyboard worries me. Seems the sense one is better. If the vzw n1 is rootable I'll have options. Maybe"better keyboard"? Wifi tether is nice on wm. My wm phone doesn't need root but my itouch's are annoying without jb so an iPhone will never be in my future. Apple is just working to hard to block such things.

I'm not worried about unrooting. It's like submitting for a claim on a laptop with a broken keyboard and hp declining service because you have admin rights on your laptop.
[Nexus One Android Development] bobtentpeg:
Thats the adb daemon on your computer, so that it acts like it has root. That doesn't mean it can do root commands

adb remount requires root, because it modifies /system, a write protected directory.
[Nexus One Android Development] dextroz:
Get ShareMyApps - it will email you a copy of your apps with market links. Easy to reinstall your apps now - just before a wipe out ;)
[Nexus One Android Development] pandabear:
Thanks clear now! I am right now keeping it stock, till some one figures out a way to lock it back :)
[Nexus One Android Development] deprecate:
Flash a radio update and yank the battery during the flash...

negative hype? whether you succeed or fail people are going to back you on your efforts; others may greatly benefit from your ideas and could possibly run with them in a direction you didn't think of yielding solid results.
[Nexus One Android Development] seanhassars:
I know this is off-topic but you don't need to be rooted to install the sense keyboard.
[Nexus One Android Development] maxawesome:
Quite honestly, I can't believe this thread exists. There has been one in this forum since the Nexus One was released dedicated to this very topic.
[Nexus One Android Development] Brajin:
People need to chill out. If you are worried about hardware voiding your warranty then do not root your phones. Not all the hardware in android phones is identical. Remember that root was enabled in the g1/mt3g because of a flaw the manufactures put in the phones, which allowed us to root the phone through the "backdoor". Don't hate on developers for finding simpler and efficient ways to root the android phones. If I had to pick between speeding almost an hour rooting my g1 or rooting and flashing a rom on my nexus in under 10 minutes, Ill take the later
[Nexus One Android Development] timothydonohue:
personally, i'll take the way that doesn't void my warrantly, which currently doesn't exist, which = not getting it
[Nexus One Android Development] texasaggie1:
Interesting

Well said!

I've been reading all of the debate about whether or not we should find our own root for the nexus. It is interesting to me that back when we were trying to root the mt3g nobody EVER tried to argue about whether or not it was ethical to root it. So, Let's just pretend that Google didn't provide a one-time root switch for the nexus and just root the dang thing.
[Nexus One Android Development] Part Four:
Currently? It never will. There is NO WAY to root that won't void your warranty. Rooting your phone, no matter how you get there, voids the warranty. You're just looking for a way to cover up your tracks, which is somewhat akin to posting up links to warez. You're asking for a way to play dirty.
[Nexus One Android Development] crazy talk:
charging me 55 bucks because i was rooted to fix dust under the screen is playing dirty as well.
[Nexus One Android Development] persiansown:
The simcard slot on my phone died. I calmly explained that my bootloader was unlocked and they sent me a new phone without problems.
[Nexus One Android Development] Part Four:
You're getting into the whole "two wrongs don't make a right" territory right there.
[Nexus One Android Development] ernvillanueva90:
+1 that. stop complaining and take what you can. As stated, dont root if you want to keep your warranty. bugging devs to find another way is not the way to go about it either. they are way too busy working on roms, working out tweaks, and just plain and simple doing things that are more productive. we have already been given what we want with an instant switch to rooting the device.
[Nexus One Android Development] Dansfloyd:
Yeah, depends on if YOU broke your phone, or if it legitimately broke cause of normal usage. HTC's repair team will consider the fix. Just make sure to not mention it's unlocked to the customer service rep, because they are REQUIRED to deny warranty if it's unlocked, so most the time your not going to be able to sweet talk them (cause they are being monitored most of the time). It's truthfully determined by the repair team. If they turn on your phone and see it's rooted, they will still determine the cause of the break. If they find it's something you were NOT responsible for, then they should honor the warranty, otherwise, you'll probably get a call or get charged for the repair... for instance, dust under the screen or trackball isn't scrolling, those more then likely were not caused by unlocking your phone... so those should still be covered.

If you do need to send it in, I would wipe the phone, and make sure it has the Native ROM on it, and maybe even wipe it with the Native Recovery. Unless you bricked it, if it's bricked, then that was your fault, and they will probably charge you for a fix.

That's my two cents :)
[Nexus One Android Development] ernvillanueva90:
Couldnt have said it better.
[Nexus One Android Development] kolobok01:
Do you have a link to native ROM and recovery. I do have a phone which I have to sand it back. Which have factory problems.
[Nexus One Android Development] Hitorii:
Uh bull**** on above posts. Quoted $196.00 for swap after 3 weeks with unlocked bootloader for replacing the motherboard. In talks with HTC now. Sent in for dust under the screen. Aslo there are more people than just me in this situation.

You may get lucky and slide by. I'll keep you guys updated on what they have to say.
[Nexus One Android Development] Part Four:
You DO understand that it's POSSIBLE to fry your own motherboard if you have an unlocked device, don't you? Whether you were at fault or not is of no matter. The fact that it's possible, and that you willingly accepted the prompt on your phone that explained that you were waiving all rights to a warranty by unlocking the device, means that it's your responsibility. You owe them $196.00. It's not what you want to hear, but it's the truth. If they bend, and break the rules for you, good for you. But, if they don't, it's your own fault. You can't argue that.
[Nexus One Android Development] Snake55:
STOP

200$ for a motherboard replacement:eek: is a steal considering your not paying for a whole new phone....paying 200$ and having fun with the worlds most powerful device is a honor:)... So STOP being Gay:mad:, ROOT your phone and let the fun begin:D....why else did you buy this phone?:confused:
[Nexus One Android Development] wesbalmer:
I'm confused, I think that the person is talking about how he sent HTC the phone because of dust under the screen, and they turn around and say that he needs a new motherboard. Which, of course, would be bull****. Point is, yes you do void your warranty when you root your phone, dust under the screen or not. It might not be in the best interest of HTC to find an alternate way, but I am rooted and have dust under my screen; I won't feel bad flashing the update to bring it fully back to stock (i.e. without lock indication) and sending it back to them. I never pirate android apps though! so I feel good
[Nexus One Android Development] kolobok01:
So do you have link to the original rom with bootloader or a way to remove that lock from starting screen?
[Nexus One Android Development] DAP420:
I think by having Asurion is a good way to go. I will be paying only $130.00 for a new device. It's a whole lot better than paying $529.00 again.
[Nexus One Android Development] bahathir:
Use as a phone ? :) What else. Anyway we have our own way to use the phone. Rooting is just of the enjoyment, IMHO. Everything is up to you.

I already having this phone for 2 months, and it is a great phone, IMO. Not yet rooted, and I still enjoying it. :) I already learned how to compiled my own N1's Linux kernel, and this will the first thing and the only thing I want to do, if I want to with rooted my N1.

TQ.
[Nexus One Android Development] tee aiy emm:
This is interesting. There has to be some sort of "back door".. hmm.
[Nexus One Android Development] Andrewtst:
Charge or not charge I believe is depends on local service center and the person handle it, and some luck on it.

I bricked my phone last time after less than a week use, I do root the phone but I get motherboard replacement without any charging at all.

So I believe it is depends on the luck and also the way you reply, answer during send over.

One important thing - I know a lot people get angry and keep blaming during sending over for warranty or any complain raise and if you do this you properly get charge as you already piss that worker, remember he/she is just a worker there and everybody don't like to be blame or get shout without any reason.

If you are smart don't let smart cover you, let be yourself dumber than them, don't act smart.

Always be polite and smile, you most of the time will get it fix better and FOC.
[Nexus One Android Development] gtrplr71:
found this very interestion can someone take a pic of the non rooted top corner of the back. It says "void" inside the circle
[Nexus One Android Development] fdm1:
Interesting...mine says that too. It might just be a void sticker which if tampered/removed is a visible sign of opening up the phone hardware-wise.
[Nexus One Android Development] gtrplr71:
I would like to watch video of the back of the phone as they unlock the bootloader
[Nexus One Android Development] gtrplr71:
would it not be the other way around
[Nexus One Android Development] mortzz:
It's just a tamper evident sticker, you have to break it to open the device. All electronics have 'em.
[Nexus One Android Development] gtrplr71:
oh i see thanks for the info.
[Nexus One Android Development] attn1:
Yes he can - and I'd agree with him. I think it's an irresponsible attitude of any manufacturer to deny coverage of any manufacturing defect that is clearly that and not related to how the phone was used, regardless of what terms are written into the warranty. So far, HTC has been behaving responsibly. If you don't agree, that's fine - but we're all entitled to an opinion.
[Nexus One Android Development] davbran:
Here's the thing about manufacturers. They are in it for the money. They don't care about the little man. True Story - I had a blackberry curve. The little, silver colored, plastic collar that holds the trackball in place felt loose but it held it in so I didn't worry about it. The legs on that collar were broken. I assume it happened during manufacturing. Sprint wouldn't fix it, and RIM wouldn't replace it (they told me that those parts cannot be replaced). I paid $130 to insurance to replace the phone. Three months later someone told me you could buy the trackball and collar for $9 on amazon. I was not pleased.

With that story out I live by this rule now.

Win if you can...

Lose if you must...

But, always cheat!!!
[Nexus One Android Development] wesbalmer:
I can absolutely discount what you're saying. I had the 8330 and, within my warranty, when the same exact thing happened I called Sprint and was sent a replacement phone using the reasoning that my phone was 'DOA' after 2 months. If anything I would say that you were outside of your warranty period.

How long can we expect manufactures to perform maintenance.

When I receive my Droid tomorrow, as a gift from IO, I will be packaging up my root'd Nexus and sending it in for repair due to dust underneath the screen. If they have a problem solving the issue then I will ***** until I reach their highest hierarchical position, but if I have to pay I will. I voided my warranty, the phone was sold to me underneath the contract and I knew the circumstances.

Others have made a really good point to use the phone stock for a while before rooting, make sure you don't have problems. I was not patient, but OH WELL
[Nexus One Android Development] davbran:
DOA - Dead On Arrival

"DOA after two months" makes no sense. My issue was consider damaged part. I was told that warranty doesn't cover "physical damage" they never even looked at the phone. This is why I won't own another Blackberry. So, you can't discount my experience. You weren't even there.

Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Nexus One Android Development] petard:
How can you POSSIBLY defend HTC in this case? There is dust under the screen, but otherwise the phone is completely functional! Why do they need to replace the motherboard? They don't! All HTC should do is clean the phone and make sure it is sealed, and then send it back. How does changing some software on the phone cause the seals in the screen to fail and let dust in?
[Nexus One Android Development] iamwhoamnot:
the point of this thread is to find an alternative way to unlock the phones bootloader, not arguing over warranty claims.
[Touch HD General] crystal_clear:
In recent months, we are now seeing UMA being rolled out in new phones, currently about 8 on the market, mostly blackberry and nokia.

The new HTC's about to be launched are also going to have, however is anyone aware of software additions to enable me to make my HD into a UMA device, even if i have to manually switch it over when i leave the house.

As my phone reception at home is CRAP! and i end up losing so many calls due to it.

HELP, Please.....
[Touch HD General] -PiLoT-:
not sure exactly what is needed here all i know is the htc shadow 2009 has this perhaps someone can make a cab
[HD2 General] Jerbo:
After i dropped it on the floor, on a thick carpet though.

No physical damage, the phone is still powering on and all the hardware buttons work just fine, the screen just isn't responding.

I'm gonna send it back for repair, any hint/tips i might try to make it work before i send it away for probably 4-6 weeks?

Thanks!
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
Id guess the connector between the screen and the mainboard has come loose. Probably really simple to re connect, but would require opening teh phone which would void the warranty, so i would recommend you bite the bullet and send it back.
[HD2 Accessories] kdenilson:
today i see a great product. a side flip leather case with bt keyboard inside,

it is design for hd2 specially. the keyboard cannot be taken out n use mini usb to charge

i think this will be super for my leo!!

however i still get a hold on it because

1. its a bit heavy when i put my leo inside

2. the leather case is very old fashion:(

3. it is a bit expensive @hkd400

i hope more manufacturer will use this idea to make more similar product
[HD2 Accessories] ozkaya:
any photos?
[HD2 Accessories] ara-gorn:
If this is not a joke, could you please post a link? That would be great...
[HD2 Accessories] LTxda:
Link please?
[HD2 Accessories] espaleena:
N P N T - No Picture No Talk
[HD2 Accessories] kdenilson:
i do not have the link . i saw it on a shop.

I will take a photo for you guys later when I go there again .

but tbh, the outlook of the leather case is very old fashion ...
[HD2 Accessories] LTxda:
Thanks. please try to get the name of the maker and a model number if you're able to.
[HD2 Accessories] LTxda:
something else

geekstuff4u.com/mini-bluetooth-keyboard.html
[HD2 Accessories] sierra0815:
Maybe this

xxx.freedominput.com/freedom-accessories/slim-keypad

I saw a photo on Google with special Case for it.

xxx.mobilitysite.com/2007/02/small-compact-bluetooth-keyboard/

Just use Google picture search.

I'm not allowed to post Images :(