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[HD2 General] lhino9:
You'll be waiting much much longer than the end of 2010 to pay $400-$500 for the T9193. Seriously. The Touch HD has been out since 2008 and it is still tagged above $500.
[HD2 General] lude219:
Welcome to the world of unlocked, unsubsidized smartphones. Honestly, I feel stupid myself for spending $800 on a phone, but outside of that, I'm also buying the support of great developers here, I'm buying the exclusivity that 99% of all AT&T users will not be able to use this phone up to its potential, and buying the greatest satisfaction of them all...and that is a smile on my face. Putting a price tag on an item obscure the fact of the emotional and mental attachment that the user has with that item, which at the end of the day, makes it all that much worth it.

It's like lamenting someone for living lavishly in a mansion without understanding that they want their children and grandchildren to have a best place to grow up with and to see the smile on their faces. That's something you can't put a price tag on.

:)
[HD2 General] Madmax0609:
Is anyone in the US sending MMS on their AT&T Telstra? I cant get mine to work. I can send SMS with no issues, but MMS doesnt work.

Any ideas? Maybe my settings are wrong??
[HD2 General] ryuu55:
me too... I have Dutty HG V1 connected to at&t. No problems with sending sms but can't send mms. I'll try to re-run the setup wizard. I'll report back if that helps.

UPDATE: after re-running the setup wizard, I am no longer getting a 3G signal only edge or no signal at all!?!?!?! (see pic)

Another UPDATE: @Ago - all my setting were the same as yours except the GSM in the connection settings. Mine was @ "GSM Preferred" and not just "GSM", after change to just GSM i was able to send a mms.

Thanks
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Mobicity is just as cheap as personal digital. Their shipping is lower. And I have a coupon code for $20 more off. PM me for it.

To have my MMS working I had to make these changes.

message tab/all messages/menu/settings/options/menu/mms server/AT&T MMS/ and make sure where it says 'Connect via' that you have the internet connection selected that you are using. For me it is Media Net. Then select done.

Also I had to do this. I could not get mms to send over gprs.

settings/menu/all settings/connections/advanced network/ scroll on bottom to SMS Service and select it. Setting for SMS over: should be GSM. Then select ok in taskbar. GPRS on my phone will not send mms. The 2 preferred settings causes the sms bug on my phone. GSM is my only working solution.

Hope this helps.
[HD2 General] Kawaelde:
No issues

If relevant... have had no problems with with either dropped connections/SMS/MMS. Everything has been working. What a cool device ! Owned 3 weeks now...

ATT Michigan (Milford)

OS 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)

Manila ver. 2.5.20113626.0

Rom Dutty Leo HG V0.9 WWE

Radio 2.07.50.27.2

In case the guy from Howell contemplating a purchase sees this.. had no problems in your area.
[HD2 General] Madmax0609:
Mine still wont send. :( When I go to Phone/Menu/Options/Voice Mail and Text Message and look at the numbers in the two boxes they are both international numbers (+13123149***) for a total of 11 digits. do you have local numbers on your setup?
[HD2 General] Madmax0609:
BTW, I'm running WWE 1.66 rom, not stock Telstra rom.
[HD2 General] Kawaelde:
numbers

Here is what I have:

Text message service center +13123149*** Chicago area code

Voice mail +15862165*** Flint MI area code

11 digits in each...
[HD2 General] ryuu55:
about the same here:

Text message service center +1312314****

Voice mail +1251207****
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I am running 1.66 official rom also with the settings I gave. Your message center numbers are correct or your sms wouldnt send or receive. However the attachments in mms messages do not go through the message center. That has to deal with data. Check your settings against the ones I gave a few posts back.
[HD2 General] Madmax0609:
Ok, I found the problem. I called AT&T and I was still on the iphone plan. A customer rep walked me through everything by just pretending it was an AT&T fuze and the issue has been resolved.

Thanks. :)
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
So did they have you change something on your phone or did they do it on their servers?
[HD2 General] Madmax0609:
It was done on their servers.
[HD2 General] technillion:
Are you sure about this...

Over on pdadb.net they are showing a HTC HD2 US with

both

ATT UMTS bands (850 and 1900).

Are you saying we won't see that model released??

I'm trying to decide if I should get the t9193 as soon as I can or just wait a few weeks (?) for that one...
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Must be a typo. Why would TMobile release a phone that doesn't work on their own 3G network? ;)
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
That spec sheet is definitely a typo. Those are ATT specs and not T-mobile specs. I can guarantee that t-mobile has this phone exclusively on contract. No way ATT would get this phone when they still have the iphone on contract.

If that was true my phone would be on ebay shortly.

At the bottom of the specsheet it says they are preliminary specs and it is dated of october of last year.
[HD2 General] ryuu55:
It would be great if HTC goes thru with the UMTS850/1900, but I've seen HTC specs before for USA releases that never came. Either way if you haven't already purchase, I couldn't hurt to hold off until Mar/May. IF they release a UMTS850/1900 ver. @ that time, or the price could drop on the T9193...

at&t announced they "should" be most if not all UMTS850 by the end of this year since 1900 isn't strong enough. So the only benefit of the possible HD2 USA-850/1900 over the T9193 would be the 1GB ROM compared to 512ROM.
[HD2 General] harolds:
On that same page they have a link to T-Mobile HTC HD2 (HTC Leo) so maybe!
[HD2 General] DerUbermench:
is this a permanent fix or temporary?
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
If you clear that specific key, it's permanent. I think there is some link between the connmgr key and the youtube key - not sure how or why, but it's there.
[HD2 General] lude219:
Yup. If you just remove the proxy string from the youtube key alone, it'll come back, but if you also delete the proxy string from connmgr, it wont regenerate the proxy name into your youtube key. Funny how that is, but oh well...it works.:p
[HD2 General] Bwhite4801:
you rock bro
[HD2 General] lamensterms:
hey mate, good thread.

ive posted this question a couple of times before - on a couple of different threads, but now im beginning to think my 'issue' is with the telstra ROM.

is there a way to edit the links/shortcuts on the "apps & downloads" tab? ive just god a bunch of links to telstra junk that i will never use. its a bummer too, because even if i cant edit the shortcuts, i still have to keep that tab active so i can access the 'all programs' list.

hopefully someone has a solution.

cheers.
[HD2 General] Kawaelde:
info

If you go with it.. don't know if you have a ATT store there... I used the one in New Hudson off of the Milford Rd exit. Reference...Sean Davidson - spent 2 hours with me on getting it up and running. cool kid ! Knows his stuff. SDavidson@ATTMylink.com Reference "norm" and the HD2's for me and girlfriend. He'll know. He'll make sure your basics are working before leaving the store. Will include the SIM free.
[HD2 General] pepitoil:
I dunno why can't find this post at general's section... I needed to look at history to find it..it is me or the post has been moved to another section?...
[HD2 General] the_scotsman:
Can someone with the stock Telstra ROM please post the values of these registry entries? I'd be very grateful!

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\BandType

All the entries under here. Thanks :)
[HD2 General] scooby099:
ItemCount	REG_DWORD	5

ItemName1	REG_SZ	Auto

ItemName2	REG_SZ	GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)

ItemName3	REG_SZ	GSM(1900)+UMTS(850)

ItemName4	REG_SZ	GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850+2100)

ItemName5	REG_SZ	GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850)

ItemValue1	REG_DWORD	0

ItemValue2	REG_DWORD	1

ItemValue3	REG_DWORD	2

ItemValue4	REG_DWORD	4

ItemValue5	REG_DWORD	5
[HD2 General] the_scotsman:
Thanks, really appreciate it! ;)
[HD2 General] matthewf01:
Actually I looked around for this too and didn't find much. I assume this is another tab, different than the Home tab? I didn't play with the Telstra ROM much before I blew it away! Have you considered flashing a stock non-Telstra ROM? The only other mod for Telstra I've found is making it possible to unlock the home tab quicklinks, which is linked to in the first post.
[HD2 General] technillion:
Locked to Telstra?

I found someone local (to Chicago) who got some t9193s in today. But he

claims

they are LOCKED to Telstra and he can't sell them until they provide the unlock codes to them...and that the US 3G 850mhz UMTS band will NOT work until they are UNLOCKED.

Does that make sense to anyone? I thought some of the US ATT folks were using straight out of the box from Australia.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

Thx
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
He is full of it. They are not locked but just branded. He probably wants to flash a wwe rom on them before he sells them. But he is feeding you a line of bull. Possibly he doesn't know better himself.
[HD2 General] technillion:
Yea that's what I thought...

I got suspicious when he said he got 25 units in today but he needed 2 weeks to get them UNLOCKED.

:rolleyes:
[HD2 General] ryuu55:
weird!!

yeah.......Telstra doesn't lock their devices. They just have a Telstra branded ROM.
[HD2 General] mikron15:
He doesn't have them on-hand and is just buying time with some lame excuses. The two weeks period he mentions is b'coz most vendors will be getting new stock within a week or two.

The phone's are not locked and is just loaded with Telstra branded ROM. I didn't have to unlock mine...just popped my sim in and flashed a WWE rom on it.
[HD2 General] cp_kirkley:
After about 14 months is dancing with the devil (3g and 3G S) I am returning to my WM roots. Just purchased a 9193 off of Personal Digital's ebay listing. Including shipping the cost was a little over a grand. But selling my old Asus G50 and 3G S softened the blow quite a bit... lol.

Good to be home!
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Welcome back to the winmo world big spender. I can see you really wanted it. There were three links at the beginning of this thread (one in USA) that would have all been well under a grand.
[HD2 General] cp_kirkley:
Not necessarily. I looked at the other sites, and their price has/had gone up considerably since then. Cheapest would've been about 930-940 beans, and its Backordered. I'd rather spend the extra couple of bucks and not wait till whenever to get it.

All said and done though, I really didnt come too far out of pocket - I Craigslisted both the G50 and the 3G S to get 900 cash, then ordered the phone and deposited the cash. Maybe 140 bucks of "new" money spent. Which is well worth it to get the last remnant of Apple out of my life.;)

Edit - I just checked my paypal confirmation email. Grand total was 1049.99 AU, which translates into $955 USD. So I DID get it for under a grand. WOOT!
[HD2 General] apetrakian:
fixed connection pbms

Got mine last week.

Flashed Dutty's Rom and 2.08 radio. 3G connection kept disconnecting or would not connect. Tried different suggestions to no avail. Finally, Turned HSUPA/HSDPA off and 3G now works flawlessly.

start/settings/connections/advanced network and disable above.

Cheers
[HD2 General] bjk956:
Some1 please help me to solve this weather update issue.Its been 4 days since i got my Telstra HD2,weather update just wouldnt work :mad:,keep giving me a connection error,rest of the function r OK :D.

Cheers
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Have you manually entered your location first or went outside so the gps can set your location? Basically do you have a location to update? Do you have your location services disabled?
[HD2 General] bjk956:
Aaagggghhhhh...Bloody connection settings was wrong...How i missed it never know.Anyway,Telstra MMS to Telstra Internet.All OK now :-))
[HD2 General] evilpandas:
International Roaming Data Charges

Just thought I would let you know, I went Overseas last week and everytime the phone changed carrier, i.e. NZ Telstra to NZ Vodafone the data connection turned on again. I turned the data connection off due to ridiculous charging rates for data o/s ($15 a meg) subsequently I now have a data bill of atleast $150 for a week!

I turned the data settings off under the wireless controls, and really couldn't find too many other settings to completely turn off the wireless as when it flicks over to the next carrier it effectively restarts a new data session.

I've lodged a ticket with HTC but i don't think too much will happen with it.
[HD2 General] safsaf_asm:
I'm locked and I can't access to the phone anymore afterr installing the swipe!!! It seems my HD2 didn't recognize anymore my password...

Help Please!!!!!!
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Wow really? That's nuts. Thanks for sharing. I've roamed int'l before and never had to take any special precautions - I'll use NoData this time!
[HD2 General] benz0101:
Sms & mms not working

Does anyone know why my stock Telstra Rom HTC t9193 on AT&T on 3G in the U.S. Florida on 850 won't text on SMS or MMS? Thank you for any help provided.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
You need to set your sms/mms up to work if using telstra rom.

message tab/all messages/menu/settings/options/menu/mms server

select and configure the server for mms.

also you need to enter message center number

settings/wireless controls/phone/voice mail and text message

and enter service center numbers here.
[HD2 General] lude219:
I don't understand how some of you are so insistent on using the stock Telstra ROM when you're in the US. Of all kind of problems you're having with SMS, MMS, camera, quicklinks, etc, it could all be solved if you would just flash in a stock HTC or a decent cooked ROM.

The stock Telstra ROM is 1.48/1.49 ROM.....we're up to 2.09/2.10 now. Save yourself all the stupid headache and flash in a different ROM to rid yourself of all the stupid Telstra crap.
[HD2 General] pepitoil:
I agree with lude219.... I'm in Mexico and after testing telstra rom found it really sucks... so I'm using Artemis 5 rom in spanish and is Very good and stable so far... cya!
[HD2 General] evilpandas:
well apparently there is a fix that is not included in the Telstra ROM where you can turn off GPRS completely... So I wouldn't take it unless you apply the fix.
[HD2 General] Dav0s:
After installing this version the password (PIN) on my phone was changed. I tried my own passport and 0000. Both didn't work. Is it possible that the maker of this CAB had his PIN included in the cab-file?

I can't use my phone anymore :(
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I don't see what the swype cab has to do with any pin codes. I do recall others saying their pin has changed on its own or doesn't get recognized but I don't believe any of the cases had to do with swype. Search the forum. Besides that, this is not the thread to be asking about swype.
[HD2 General] mikron15:
It seems to be related to swype V3.9...take a look at this thread
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Might be the time to go back to the omnia II version of swype. I hope you get it unlocked without having to hard reset.
[HD2 General] technillion:
Here's something strange...

Last night I flashed Tom HD2 WM6.5 v2.1 WWE Build 21893 Co0kie's Home Tab Manila from here.

Now, when I go to SETTINGS/ABOUT PHONE/PHONE IDENTITY the Model No. shows HTC HD2 T8585. :eek: I thought the model was read from the bios or somewhere.

The first ROM I flashed 2 days ago was Duttys Leo Multi-Lang Ultimate V2.2 WWE and the Model No. stayed as T9193 as it should. Now, it won't change from T8585 even if I flash back.

I don't want this to cause me issues when I sell this phone a year or so from now...

Any ideas??
[HD2 General] azalex86:
If you live in AZ, do not buy this phone if you are expecting 3G connectivity. Arizona has no 850Mhz band yet, and supposedly AT&T doesn't own the licensing, so it may be quite a while until it arrives.

With that being said, the phone is actually pretty damn fast over edge, but for that you could go with pretty much any HD2 for cheaper.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
If you flash the telstra rom back using the memory card method it should change back.
[HD2 General] matthewf01:
I found in the HTC camera settings in the registry, its possible to change the values for the device; flashing a generic HD2 ROM to the T9193 did result in that tag being set to T8585, but I just changed it back.

Of course, thats just for the camera EXIF data, nothing else.

Shouldn't harm anything for it to say T8585, but I understand wanting it to say what you paid a premium for ;)
[HD2 General] technillion:
Yep...found that too.

Thanks for the confirmation. There were a few other places in the registry where the change could be made too. As long as it changes back to t9193 with the stock Telstra ROM it'll be fine.
[HD2 General] np231:
Thinking of getting the HD2

Hi everyone, I really need help from others who already have the HD2, mainly ppl in US and Canada,

I checked both Personal Digital and Mobicity website, their total comes upto $958.85AUS this is approx $900.00CAD, or $860.00US. Now this is including shipping costs and everything.

Now I ordered a sony ericsson phone in the past using a different online website, but when FedEx came to deliver the product I had to pay about $30-40 for the customs tax (imports).

Did any of you who ordered it from Australia had to pay this price or you just paid the total on the website and nothing after?... please let me know as soon as possible..

I really want to know this from Canadian users (I'm in Ontario) or US,

Thank You
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I purchased mine from Mobicity and I did not have any customs tax that I know of. Possibly it was figured in to the total. I lost track with the conversion of Aus$ to US$ but I don't think so. Also I know MobiCity shipped from Hong Kong instead of Australia. Would that make a difference? I know a few that have purchased from Mobicity and no customs tax. I know a few that purchased from personaldigital and they did get a customs tax.

If where you buy from is the case then make sure you figure that in. You could contact both places and ask them. Just to let you know if interested, if you PM me I can tell you how to get MobiCity to price match personaldigital.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
It's a crapshoot whether you have to pay customs. I think we've all been lucky so far.
[HD2 General] np231:
So I contacted Mobicity, the rep did not know anything about the customs tax, I also asked him whether they can mark it as a gift since gifts are not taxed but the rep said No..

My current phone was shipped from hongkong and I had to pay customs to FedEx, so I am not sure what to do here, as this customs tax might be huge and I really don't know how much will it be?

I tried to checkout the T9193 from both PD and Mobicity and the total comes out to be exactly the same, $955Aus (+/-3).

does anyone have more information about this customs tax thing? again I live in Ontario, Canada.
[HD2 General] mikron15:
From the chat I had with Fedex rep, these are the following charges for us Canucks:

+ GST & PST on the declared value

+$10 Brokerage fee (unless you hire your own broker)

+$6.xx Fedex fee ( some delivery BS fee)

There could be a duty charge that only depends on our Canadian Customs guy, they let it slide most of the time, but you get the odd times where they ding you for Duty. The GST&PSt is collected again by Cdn Customs, so that's compulsory unless it's marked as gift or declared value of <$25.

Hope this helps!
[HD2 General] scdoyle:
I am based in canada and ordered mine from australia. I did indeed get charged by FedEx for additional custom/duties - around $50. This is not the first time this had happened to me when ordering from abroad.
[HD2 General] bowpay:
I think its a canadian tax. I ordered mine from Personal Digital and paid nothing more than what they charged me upfront.

Has anyone thought about creating a rom based on the Telstra version? I sure like to get a clean telstra rom that had all their bloatware stripped out. If I knew how to cook I would love the challenge. For some reason I got better signal with the Telstra rom and radio but I didn't have it for that long so maybe it just appeared that way.
[HD2 General] pepitoil:
YOU ALL GUYS ARE LUCKY... I bought mine from a seller at ebay... I supose to paid for the telstra 915 CAD... plus shipping by fedex ( I live in Mexico).... but they report the 990 CAD price to customs so I paid $130 USD customs tax when fedex delivered to me... so the whole thing cost little bit more than $1000 usd... maybe some dollars more.... so consider lucky if you paid less....
[HD2 General] np231:
Thanks man, I am going to talk to personal digital and ask them if they can mark the product as a gift when shipping. If they say no then I will have to wait for the prices to go down a bit as I am on a very tight budget.

Thanks for the help everyone, I hope I can order this thing soon.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
I doubt they'll do it but you can ask?

BTW, depending on what is announced in 2wks, I might be interested in selling my Telstra HD2. I'll be spending a couple weeks in the GTA area so maybe we could work something out. Perfect hardware condition, no blemishes etc :D

Let me know what you hear back from them.
[HD2 General] aenimal:
Is there a need to activate HD2 with AT&T at some point?

I'm expecting to get my Telstra HD2 on Monday. :-)

Based on everything I read, all I have to do is put in my AT&T SIM into the new phone and everything will work (including wireless data). Is that correct?

The reason I ask is this.

I had Moto Q9h. It got all scratched up and old, so I got the new one on eBay. Put my SIM in it, everything's cool for about 3 weeks, then my unlimited data stopped working.

Had to call AT&T, they got the new IMEI from me, updated my records, and wireless data returned.

Will I ultimately have to do that for HD2? If so, will AT&T give me crap for using the officially unsupported device on their network?

Thanks!
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
You shouldn't have to. That's the reason why GSM rocks, you can move your SIM card to any device :)
[HD2 General] harolds:
I have read about people using the ROM that came with it having data problems (data connection dropping for no reason). So I would recommend (as I did) flash one of the ROM's from the development forum, I flashed the Lynx EX and it's great.

Also AT&T cannot tell you what phone you can or cannot use, as long as it meets their requirements, for which the HD2 does.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
One more thing that has never been mentioned about the T9193 being used on ATT. There is one more setting by default that is incorrect.

settings/wireless controls/phone/menu/advanced network

At the bottom scroll to where it says GPRS. ATT uses CHAP and not PAP for GPRS authentification. So select CHAP and then ok. Hopefully this may help a few.
[HD2 General] technillion:
ATT won't know your IMEI...

ATT won't know your IMEI unless you give it to them. I had the ATT FUZE for a short while and (OF COURSE) they made me pay the $30 PDA unlim data addon. When I switched to an unlocked Omnia II, I called them and told them I wasn't using an ATT PDA and I simply needed regular UNLIM data--which is only $10. They asked for the IMEI, which of course is not in their system, and made the plan switch. Once I got my HD2, I didn't have to make any changes since "my story" is the same.
[HD2 General] GeeOff_N:
Any one know when the new Telstra ROM will be out?