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[HD2 General] aceo07:
I agree with you Lindsaydr. Too consumer / provider focused. I use my phone to call people, txt/chat/email, web browse and run apps (some media based). I don't want an OS that seems focused on providing me an online store to buy stuff.

Have it modular and allow me to disable all the consumer/provider modules and I'll be happy.

In it's current state, I wouldn't install it to use for over a week. I'd install it just to check it out though.

I hope it changes. Otherwise Apple, Android, Windows Phone 7 will all be pretty much the same with different UI. All consumer/provider based and trying to lock you into their little world. I think Android is a little less of that.
[HD2 General] mndl632:
well it still seems like there's quite a few months for things to change in Windows Phone 7 but it does seem like a good fresh start for Windows Mobile. Would be awesome if you could dual boot 6.5 and 7 on the HD2 although i guess that would be close to impossible
[HD2 General] UncleBeer:
Two words: BUTT UGLY.

Thank you; no. :D
[HD2 General] ephestione:
that's a partially silly question ;)

It's like keeping XP on a phenom because it's lighter than seven...

It's clearly quite a leap, so only a few will install it right away, there will be most probably compatibility problems with some applications, yet it will be the choice that "makes sense" to go for it, even if after a while, when more developers settle their applications to work in that environment.
[HD2 General] pack21:
I need WM7 in my HD2! :D
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
+100 ;)

I know I am supposed to like it, but... bleh...the design sense is not the strongest feature of MS and it never has been. Sure, the guy who designed "metro" knows something about tennis shoes, but I don't like the new UI. It's trying too hard to be minimalist, modern and cool, but it looks like a major fail so far. YMMV.

:ducking the flames:
[HD2 General] htcplussony:
I was reading the "Microsoft hits redial in phone effort (Q&A)" on cnet. It sounds like 4 point multitouch instead of 2 is going to a requirement. Does the HD2 even have that in hardware? Its going to be officially no go without it.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
Think i'll wait for sp1 myself.

*cough
[HD2 General] Qoroite:
not touching it, from what I've seen so far.

I'll stay with 6.5.5.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i loved wp7 series very smooth very fast very easy
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
I'm seriously trying to envision just how a 4 point multitouch system would work.

I am really not coming up with any viable scenario where FOUR fingers need to be used simultaneously to do something on my phone.

Seriously....What is that? A four-finger click will send an email to your mom asking her to bake cookies for you this weekend? Seriously. I am all in favor of improved function, but too many times with Microsoft we are forced to deal with what someone else tells us we are supposed to find intuitive and useful and very often, this is not the case.
[HD2 General] Stilts:
I definitely would. I like the new UI, despite what other people may think. Although I would like for it to have Sense on it also.
[HD2 General] aceo07:
+200. I used to like Nike shoes at some point, but in the last 10(?) years they've gotten too funky for me or I've gotten too old. Regardless of who made the UI, I don't like it either.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
I'm just taking a guess here, but I believe the whole '4-point multi-touch' is just a marketing name... it's not special hardware, it's just software interpretation where you have to dedicate nearly your whole hand to phone control :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
But let's try to imagine how that will work...

Two fingers can give us a nice contextual menu. I can imagine that nicely. In fact, Apple already does that in MacOSX. All their trackpads are multitouch (which, btw, is actually a patent that they hold, not just some arbitrary concept) so....

Three fingers...what does that do? Go to Home or Start? Or Search (Bing)? We have one button for those.

Four fingers? Soft Reset, which I can imagine that we'll need often enough for at least the first 4 SP releases. :D

Personally.... I'm holding out for "sextuple touch" at least that name has a little double entendre that the marketing department can use.
[HD2 General] 96edwy:
i wish that they had this new ui as lik the htc sense kinda thing, then u cud still go to the old start menu, obviously they wud make the start menu more to the style of winmo7 but hav the same functionality as the old one
[HD2 General] alex fung:
No, from the current media, WM7 looks like a piece of junk.
[HD2 General] vlad48:
Definitely no. If I need this piece of crap I'll use an iphone.
[HD2 General] zaar:
right now the win 7 is quite ugly, but I am sure that microsoft will work on it. but I am not going for a closed system like iphone has. if I had wanted that I could have chosen, iphone instead of hd2.
[HD2 General] rhitey:
Question if Microsoft aren't going to let companies skin 7 then basically

aren't all the phones going to be the same????
[HD2 General] comeradealexi:
I think the new 7 looks AWESOME - but does any one have any info about it coming to the hd2? i emailed htc and they said they dont know - just look at the website
[HD2 General] Skywalker74:
No, too much Facebook in WP7.

I really hope that Android will be available for HD2 by Christmas!
[HD2 General] thatg:
I think the big names want to be synonomous with ease of use, which is understandable considering what majority of consumers are looking for And the competition dictates. It would be cool if there was some sort of alternative ui for the guys that are so upset with a rigid ui with not much customization options. This is a leap from 6.x though, its a ui to boast about rather than have manufacturers have to make a whole ui to cover the hideous original(sense). I'm in, Where do i sign up. I believe after a conference in vegas next month an sdk is expected to be released shortly after. Is that what it takes to get this on our hd2s?
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Yes, I would. If HTC offered me the opportunity to travel back in time and have sex with an 18-year-old Jessica Alba free of charge, I would also say yes. I think the second of those things is probably slightly more likely to happen than the first.
[HD2 General] Ibb1982:
I'm undecided, mainly because I'm new to the Windows Mobile scene (since getting my HD2).

I'm very happy with 6.5 at the moment, and from what I've seen of WM7, I'm not all that excited about it yet.

I think I'll be waiting until compatibly and initial bugs are ironed out.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
ROFL, you're such a negative guy, it's incredible... how pessimistic can someone be?

Anyway, you're so often wrong... maybe a bit of optimism would help you in life...

This time, you're wrong again with a probability of about 80%...
[HD2 General] Archer:
It's impossible for me to answer this question with the limited amount of information we have. We've only seen a GUI, and have no information whatsoever about the underlying OS.

Until we have some facts (please don't quote a bunch of rumours) about the OS then I wouldn't even think about putting it on my phone.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
has any one now the reqirements of wp7 series or it is still unknown
[HD2 General] jrrigney:
I disagree I think Shasarak is being quite optimistic for i too would like the opportunity to have Jessica Alba free of charge lol ;)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
is this image true
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Yes, this is true. I told you the HD2 could run WP7 perfectly...
[HD2 General] Biso007:
only if from HTC

The key word for me is "by HTC" .. they did a great job in hiding the ugliness of WM 6.x on HD2 .. so if they are going to do the same with WM7 then I will go for it ... but I believe it may be a while before it.
[HD2 General] shu8i:
is this a leaked rom?
[HD2 General] freyberry:
No, unfortunately not... we still have to wait and hope that it leaks.
[HD2 General] Noam23:
I've heard that the HD2 in that image running WM7 is the *USA* version with 1GB ROM.
[HD2 General] shu8i:
it is not, since it has no coloured call keys.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
It's not. It's the European one.
[HD2 General] Noam23:
If the wm7 that runs on the HD2 is indeed backward compatible, I wonder if it could take SPB Mobile Shell, it's just an app...
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Nah, it's much more than just an app... it goes a lot deeper.
[HD2 General] Archer:
lol - you heard
[HD2 General] picard1290:
my opinion.

My opinion is that from looking at the ui running that it doesnt require much more processing power than current ui. Also the talk of 4 finger tracking etc. I honestly think this ui is gonna be using xbox live as its killer service. Makes sense, games that communicate via the live service would require quite high specs ? If you were gonna take on the current rivals surely you would make use of the one thing that truly appeals to a mass market, gives availabilty to purchases and even has what some would argue is the most advanced looking (avatars) social networking. Xbox live is my prediction , hence its fairly played down currently, the avatars are static ( although i think its on the gizmodo clip the ms spokesman says they will be fully animated) and no games were on view , just "placeholders".

Is the HD2 and its forefathers really the " XBOX PORTABLE" platform ?
[HD2 General] KB24@CL:
OF COURSE!
[HD2 General] lancemate:
to those saying they will wait for HTC's flavour of WP7 I'm afraid you're out of luck, M$ have confirmed that no vendor customised ROMs will be allowed, so bye bye Sense :(

I will no doubt install the first available ROM however, I'm a sucker for the latest eye candy! I just hope it does everything I can do now in Sense!
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
So you're claiming that there is an 80% probability that HTC will release an official, free-of-charge update to WP7 for the HD2? Do you have a single shred of evidence that you can cite in support of that claim?
[HD2 General] mrmomoman:
I think they will allow for a free upgrade to WM7. Just a guess but it would seem reasonable even after they pulled the comment that they would offer a free upgrade. It meets the minimum requirements of the phone specs.

Although I like the Sense 2.x UI :) I know MS said the WP7 Series will not allow for a new UI to be on top of theirs. The Sense UI HTC will continue to use it for the Android based phones and many of the phones to hit their lower price points. So its nice their is a low end, middle and high end. 6.5(starter), 6.5.x(middle) and 7.x(highend).

It flows in line of their offerings on Windows. So it makes sense in their business model.

I think they will change up the WP7 series UI. It's already customizable and I am sure it will continue to evolve now that the real cat is out of the bag. They have a few more months to tweak and tune. The phone dialpad and all of that needs to be finished up and the marketplace will also need to be updated.

I find it exciting to see what the business offering or version 2 will offer. I am a fan of the Zune Interface so I more than welcome WP7. :)

I think it will grow on some of the ones who doesn't like it now. Who knows what the final output will really look like. :)
[HD2 General] erosennin:
I'm more than happy with Sense. No upgrade for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] fcasoli:
I would like a theme or animated image based on that of Nexus One with light moving over the screen, to apply on our Sense...

It is possible to realize?

thanks
[Android Apps and Games] MaFi0s0:
I used to touch type on old candy bar and slide phones without having to look at the screen, by feeling the dialpad keys I knew what button I was on and using the T9 dictionary it was easy, I really miss this in new phones now.

I wanted to buy a dialpad phone with Android as a 2nd phone but there are none being made so I think they are going the way of the dodo.

There is no feesable way to touch type on new phones, qwerty keyboards have too many keys, haptic feedback is in its infancy, so I propose a full screen T9 keyboard for touch typing.

The whole display would be filled with 9 or 10 buttons representing 0-9 like a standard dialpad.

This wouldn't be the main input method, I think it would be good for it to activate by pressing the volume down button twice while in a text field and deactivate by doing the same thing. Hopefully it should be possible to touch type without haptic feedback when the whole screen is filled with only 9 buttons.

Let me know what you guys think.
[Android Apps and Games] olafos:
why the full screen??? my htc hero has softkb with t9, fills half the screen. I never use qwerty. Works like a charm. you can get the htc_ime.apk and use that.
[Android Apps and Games] MaFi0s0:
I havent heard of anyone being able to touch type on a touchscreen phone yet, ie writing an sms while driving without looking at their phone.

If it is literally filling the whole screen it may be possible on a 3.7" screen the buttons will be big, you are either pressing one of the corners, middle or sides.

If it is filling only half the screen it becomes a lot more difficult if not impossible.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] samueladibusa:
Hello Everyone,

I have HTC SPRINT TOUCH PRO 2 PHONE.

I was updating the RADIO version on my phone and after it installed the device went to REBOOT and it never opened again and it doesn't goto the boot loader. The only reaction that the phone does is when i put it to charge the red light turn on.

I have tried hard/soft Reset, and nothing have worked.

PLEASE, DOES ANYONE CAN EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED ?? OR What can I do ??

Thank you for your answer in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
could be a battery issue, seems like its not holding a charge. Go to a store and try a new battery?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
Sorry, but it sounds like you bricked your device. I'm guessing you flashed a radio not made for your device, like a GSM radio. If you can't access the bootloader, then I'd say you probably need to get your device replaced under warranty (by going to the store you bought it from and playing dumb about why it won't work so they'll replace it) or send it to HTC and pay to get it replaced.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jdmsleepr:
try to reflash back to the stock rom...download and use the sprint exe on this page to do so...http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91940

ive had this happen and this was the only way to get it working again
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] samueladibusa:
Thank you everyone for trying to help, I will try to reflash the stock ROM and hopefully it works otherwise I will send it to HTC since i dont have warranty.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rozenthal:
OK guys, I hope you won't mind me asking a completely noob question, but my girlfriend wants me to flash a new ROM on her X1. She has the prehistoric old default ROM and it's buggy as hell and it's pissing her off.

She's not a power user at all, but she saw Manila on my HD and loved the simplicity and user-friendliness, so obviously I'm looking for an X1 rom that has Manila 2.5 in it - all on Windows 6.5.

She want's stability and as few bugs as possible. Her everyday use of the phone is 90% phone calling and SMS. She doesn't use WiFi, doesn't play movies on it, couldn't care less about MMS, she never uses hardware keyboard etc. Sometimes she checks her e-mails and does basic social networking on it. You get the picture.

Can you please recommend such a ROM to me? I'm not really going for cutting edge latest builds that have yet to be perfectly polished, but rather something that has been proven stable and reliable.

Any advice would be most appreciated.

Rozenthal
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackleung:
Take a look on my "medium" rom. I don't promote my roms normally (hate doing advertisement) but your requirements quite match (MMS removed and stability) and I am a big fan of your software. :)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ring-bearer:
First, thank you for your Fingerkeyboard.

I've read a lot of X1 ROM recommendations, and it seems that many people consider Smaberg's Touch X (WM 6.1) about the most stable and bug-free Manilla ROM ever.

I prefer the combination of SPB Mobile Shell and WM 6.5.5, and your GF might prefer that over Manilla because it's very easily customizeable and finger friendly. The ROM I use is very stable, fast, and bug-free: Williyung's 826X.

Just my two cents.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sera_6969:
Have tried plenty but keep coming back to Agent_47's Roms. Been using his FireStorm ROM since version 2.7, he's on 5.8 now and it's damn near perfect. Stable, fast, cutting edge, finger friendly and good looking

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3733009&postcount=2
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onetimer2:
I've tried several good ROMs but I would agree with Sera_6969: Valkyrie FireStorm Leo would be a good fit to your requirements.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamsungGalaxySamsung:
try and find out.

thread closed!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harveydent:
I'd also like to thank you for your Finger Keyboard!

The best WM 6.1 (and Manila 2.1) would definitely be Smaberg's Touch X 10.1 (sorry Jack! :) )

But since you're looking for 6.5/Manila 2.5, I'd vote for agent_47's valkyrie as well. I'm currently using the LEO 24001 version and it's fast and stable.

She could also try the latest official ROM (R3A). Still WM 6.1 and no manila, but way better than what she has on her phone (I'm guessing R1).

By the way, the 6.5/2.5 combo is pushing the limits of the X1, 6.5/2.1 is more stable and faster, while keeping finger-friendlyness. But if she's used to the laggy stock ROM, the infrequent hiccups of 2.5 won't much matter to her.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Im Packing:
Instead of giving an answer I'd also like to say, you'd notice that he is one of a great contributor to XDA with his Finger Keyboard so giving a statement like that is a bit rude. He also stated certain key features which are not needed for daily use which sets him apart from the regular posters who request which ROM is suggested best fit for them.

I'd like to give my personal opinion on which ROMs to use, but being that everything you mentioned is the opposite of my needs I'm unable to.

Thank you again for your great contribution to us with your Finger Keyboard!
[General Questions and Answers] skullan:
Hi All,

I'm running Windows Mobile 6.5.3 and am having a pain of a time locating the concept of this.

What I am trying to do is the following:

1. Plug my phone into my computer and activesync.

2. Allow for My Mobiler to access and control my phone.

3. Prevent my Phone from accessing network resources via my computer.

4. When I surf, have my phone use its data connection, not Desktop-Passthrough.

I want the benefits of charging and remote control of the phone, with the benefits of text messaging/surfing/email as on-device data.

I've tried setting the allowLSP to be 0, 01 and 10. No success.

My litmus test is tcpview to see whether or not the end-point is being shown on my computer.

I've done alot of searching, xda, ppcgeeks, google and microsoft. But, no success yet.

Thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] egzthunder1:
Doesn't Active sync ask you (during partnership set up) if you want to have data and calls enabled while connected to it?
[General Questions and Answers] skullan:
It does, but even with the phone data on, it still pushes through to my PC unfortunately. I do appreciate that you brought that up though.
[General Questions and Answers] egzthunder1:
Can you just turn off the data connection of your PC? (pull the ethernet cable or disable the wifi card if you have one)
[General Questions and Answers] dubious_79:
bump... i would like an answer
[General Questions and Answers] pat12:
I was serching Google for the same reason as the OP, saw there was no answer and a while later figured it out by myself so I thought I would share: in AS connetion settings

check allow wireless connections and select work instead of automatic for the Computer connection. When I use Opera through MyMobiler, it launches my 3G connection instead of using the crappy Internet connection with lots of limitations that I have at the office
[General Questions and Answers] dubious_79:
Nope, this doesnt work for me. Any other ideas?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nokmond:
Hi all, tonight my Hero has bust! The bottom of the screen won't work so I understand its going to have to go back to T-Mobile as its a contract phone.

Its got a Modaco rom on it - do I need to flash it back to the original ROM?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izmar:
if you're going to take it back, i'd flash it with a stock rom with no root. As im pretty sure that voids your warranty or something...
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdgut:
Flash it with the latest Tmobile update there is then.

Since they will expect their own branding on the phone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] starbase64:
Hi,

i have many problems with my cooked Rom an new manila.

Here the most important:

Document Tab shows only "please insert SD Card"

Ebook Reader Tab has no menu or Buttons, but find my ebooks

the eMail Tab has a little optic error (show attached image)

Please help me to find the errors.

with friendly greet

starbase64
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] smaberg:
if u gonna run doc,ereader etc on rhodium manila, you will need some files from tmous and edit some others...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] EclipseTouchPro:
Is there any way around this so I can watch hulu on my touch pro?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TechnoHippie:
not that I've found. You have HULU to thank for blocking skyfire though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] XERO_Racer:
hey all,

im just bout in the range of buying the Tilt 2 but idk if i wanna jump ship though, i really need it because of the big 3.6inch screen and the beautiful keyboard, ive been going back and forth to AT&T lately checking it out and also looking for the expo, unfortunately the rep told me its not out yet but soon, i would get it for the snapdragon but my fuze is quick already and wont notice anything anyways, so the expo is out of the picture, so the real question is, is the tilt 2 really worth smacking 300 dollars in replacement of the fuze? and even though theres other newer devices out already?

looking foward to everyones input on this, thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nagle3092:
Keep your Fuze for now ATT is supposed to get 5 android phones this year.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RavenY2K3:
Hmmm

I moved from the Touch Pro to the Touch Pro 2, under the assumption that the only difference was the screen, as the specs were essentially the same... But I'm glad I did, It's a far better and quicker (at stock level) device than the TP, I didn't want to go android because of all the apps I have for WinMo and despite some peoples gripe with WinMo, I don't generally have any issues with it.

Plus, a lot of the new devices are being released sort of iPhone-esq, screen only and the TP2 is the only device available (where I am at least) with a decent hardware keyboard.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kart_racer3:
I had been debating about upgrading to the TP2 for a while also. But I've held off mainly because the hardware specs are almost identical (except for the larger screen). I figured that I would be better off waiting until a Windows Mobile slider phone with a faster processor and larger screen was released. Although I have been oh so tempted to purchase T-Mobile's HD2 when it's released.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Greens14:
Same boat. what are the other prospects? i was highly considering the tp2