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[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
There is more to it than that. If you cancel inside the grace period, you just send back the N1 and pay for days used.

If you do what you want, keep the phone, you also pay T-Mobile a handset recovery fee of $200. So, you would end up paying 529, plus tax, plus proration and your N1 would be locked to T-Mobile.

Sounds like a very flawed logic.
[Nexus One General] cymru:
Yeah I was tempted lol
[Nexus One General] alex7619:
This would work because tmo wont charge an etf if you cancel within 14 days and google will only charge $150 if you keep the nexus.
[Nexus One General] 3bs:
I was under the assumption that the T-Mobile ETF is only charged after the 14 days?
[Nexus One General] zizoty:
Exactly. I thought google only charge you 150 for ETF instead of 350. Didnt goodle change the EFT from 350 to 150 couple weeks ago?
[Nexus One General] TFJ4:
Even so, that puts you at $530 (which seems logical but your not gonna make anything and have a lot of extra work)
[Nexus One General] zizoty:
How did you get 530?. You pay $179 for the phone and 150 for google ETF. Unless t-mobile charge you 200 for ETF but this wouldnt happen because you cancel it within 14days period.
[Nexus One General] TFJ4:
Sorry I put the whole T-Mobile etf...so it comes out too $380 with the $50 T-Mobile etf
[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
You people think found found a loophole in a collaboration between two mega corporations?

T-mobile requires notification from Google that you send the phone back if you wish to cancel your contract.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
this is the internet, the land where your good idea was somebody else's idea weeks or months ago...
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
You guys don't seem to understand...

If you keep the phone after canceling you pay:

$180: Phone

$150: Google ETF

$200: T-Mobile un-returned equipment fee

$?: Prorated usage

Add that up, you get $530, plus the proration, and you have a locked Nexus One.

Now, if you decide you don't like the phone and take advantage of the 14 day return/cancel window and return the phone you pay:

$?: Proration

You don't get any ETF's, or equipment charges(assuming the phone is in like new condition). But you also don't get to keep the phone, and google can charge you a restocking fee (which I think they do, but am not certain, if they do that is another $45 for testing out the phone for a couple days)

Big surprise, Google and T-Mobile are smart enough to prevent you from gaming them. Crazy thought, I know!
[Nexus One General] mysterioustko:
Actually all of the nexus one's are unlocked. You can put any sim card in it.
[Nexus One General] gtrplr71:
No there not my buddy has one subsidized took his sim out put his ATT sim in no luck
[Nexus One General] jabreu203:
Don't forget that they can blacklist the IMEI. Doh!
[Nexus One General] 3bs:
I didn't know T-Mobile charged any "un-returned equipment fee". Not that I would try to do anything like this anyway but why would they charge "un-returned equipment fee" if you didn't buy equipment from them? Seems about as shady as somebody buying a subsidized phone just to cancel.
[Nexus One General] alex7619:
Well we wont know if this works until someone actually tries it...plus I dont think the $200: T-Mobile un-returned equipment fee is applicable seeing as how the phone is NOT being bought in a tmo store or the tmo website.
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
T-Mobile is still subsidizing the price of the phone, and it is still a term and condition of the 14 day trial period that you must return the phone in like new condition, or you will be charged a $200 fee for either un-returned equipment or broken equipment.

And I think I might know what I am talking about, being that I am a salesman for a certain carrier.

"4. * Cancellation and Returns. You can cancel your Service without paying an Early Termination Fee if you cancel WITHIN 14 DAYS of activating a new line of Service (30 days if you activate in California; other states may differ – ask your sales representative) (“Return Period”). You remain responsible to pay for the Service and all charges, fees and taxes incurred through the date of cancellation. To cancel during the Return Period, you must return to the store where you activated (or, if purchased online or by phone, follow the return instructions in the package), and return any Device you acquired at the time of activation. To receive a refund of the purchase price of your Device (less rebates received and shipping costs), you must return it (with original packaging and all contents) within the Return Period in undamaged condition and good working order to the place of purchase. You may be required to pay a restocking fee. If you do not comply with store policy, we may elect not to process your Service cancellation or you may be charged the suggested retail price of the Device, (which may be greater than the price you paid), plus any shipping and handling charges. If you activated your Service through an authorized T-Mobile dealer, the dealer’s return policy may differ from T-Mobile’s policies. The cancellation policy for FlexPay is different; please see Section 27 for details."

In many states, they can only charge a maximum of a $200 fine for un-returned equipment/damaged equipment.
[Nexus One General] veive:
Edited because someone else beat me to the punch.
[Nexus One General] wimbet:
All Nexus One's are unlocked. They come the same weather you buy them with or without a contract.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Thank you for pointing out what these others guys should already know.
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
Are they? Since I was told the subsidized ordered ones were in fact locked to T-Mobile, and others on here have reported this to be the case...
[Nexus One General] masse1369:
definitely sold unlocked with the contact...
[Nexus One General] mysterioustko:
I can state from personal experience that they are unlocked. When I first received my phone I still had not ported my number to Tmobile (I was with AT&T). I was able to use my AT&T sim card with no problem (no 3g of course).
[Nexus One General] Mafian:
Why is he being so damn cheap..sheesh..if you can't pay for a phone don't go trying to rig it and most likely come out the pocket more than you wanted to...just pay for the phone $577...I'm also on tmobile but, i bought a cliq like a retard and did the payment method.Word of advice don't buy a cliq or anything Motorola made they suck..so i bought a nexus for full price..and im selling my cliq and using it to pay off whatever is left on it....plus motorola release another click..get this..its had a damn flash on it... fail motorola
[Android Themes] gjsii13:
Vista

Windows 7

Cleanest Perfection
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
I've been reading that o2 haven't released 1.66 rom yet. I'm not sure i understand this. I'm on o2 and just managed to download 1.66 from htc's support site.

Surely if o2 hadn't authorised this update then i wouldn't have been able to officialy download it?

That is how it worked with Nokias so what's the score?
[HD2 General] DJGurth:
unbranded?

your hand set maybe unbranded, try it see what happens I'm on o2 and have a unbranded device and all is well
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
So what you're saying is if it was branded then i shouldn't have been able to get it?

It all worked with product codes with my Nokia N96, once your product code had been authorised then you could have the latest firmware.

Is that how it is supposed to work with the HD2 only using the serial instead of a product code?
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
yea it's based on the serial.I for instance can't download roms from the htc website.I get invalid serial.

did you buy it outright or contract?
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
contract on o2, i see you are o2. Are you on contract?
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
yea, got mine start of january. perhaps they're going through stock so fast they have started to ship unbranded ones. or maybe they decided to unlock the serials so they don't need too release thee update themselves.... I'll try the download again tomorrow.
[HD2 General] larrytango:
im on contract by my serial invalid also

had my hopes up for a moment haha. i know you can do the full HSPL but people keep saying it may invalidate warranty so dont want to do that (on that note can anyone tell me where it says that this would invalidate it on o2)
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
I wouldn't actually go for the update anyway, I hspld my phone after 3 days. 1.66 would be a down grade hehe .

as for why it invalidates warranty, it is software that bypasses the correct working of the official software.

course, its easy to restore back to the original since there is a stock o2 uk rom available.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
|GREY|[URL="http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6079709&postcount=127"]BLACK DRAGON|[URL="http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6246037&postcount=172"]GOLD|[URL="http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6265536&postcount=185"]BLACK GOLD|[URL="http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6593274&postcount=304"]ZENITH|[/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL]

Click on the links for screenshots and downloads.​
[Windows Mobile Themes] orb3000:
Thanks for sharing!
[Windows Mobile Themes] SaBo:
Very nice design, especially the battery meter

Sascha
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
'Ultimate' themes made redundant by the better 'Zenith' theme, and so deleted!
[Windows Mobile Themes] iDenniske:
Looks nice!

The htc sense won't change on my touch hd.

Is there anything i'm doing wrong?
[Windows Mobile Themes] 4D3:
Hi, can you at least use the correct link to the taskbar?

MG

EDIT: Thanks for sorting that

MG
[Windows Mobile Themes] Livven:
MysticGenius... this theme is different from mine, softkeys, toolbar, selectors, scrollbar, nothing from my theme has been used here. Also the link was correct, only the page wasn't ;).

Anyway, good work, I really like the softkey buttons!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Thanks man. You are indeed correct, every graphic is my own work and different in many respects.

To the poster enquiring about Sense... this is a Windows Mobile theme rather than a HTC one.

Thanks to all!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Updated 1st post
[Windows Mobile Themes] dare2know:
well any chances of QVGA
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
I don't own a QVGA device to play with, but if anybody wants to have a crack at porting them perhaps they will be kind enough to post it here.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
I've polished up the Themes a bit and updated the installer to an all-in-one cab.

Let me know if you have any problems, i'll do what i can to help.

Thanks for your time!
[Windows Mobile Themes] ai6908:
Those themes looks awesome brother!:)
[Windows Mobile Themes] kurazz:
I couldn't agree with that more. Those look amazing! Looks like I have 999 words to go...

Are you planning on ever getting these over on 6.1 devices?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Thanks guys. I'll have to see if i can get my hands on some other devices so that i can start Theming for different resolutions and WM versions!
[Windows Mobile Themes] kurazz:
If you could ever manage to get it on a WM 6.1 Xperia phone (wvga), you would be my official hero (if you arn't already : P ). Unfortunately, I've been stuck staring at this for far too long... I think I'm going to be sick.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Bit on the Grey side? :D

I wouldn't swear to it but my Dialers might work on 6.1 phones, even if the themes do not. After all they are only replacing the default WM dialer images and they haven't changed for ages. Of course you wouldn't have options for video calling etc that a proper phone canvas has.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Themes] AngryNil:
Would you be able to tell me what are the files you need to skin to change the default dialer?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
There are 21 of them. Easiest way to see what they are would be to download one of my dialer cabs and extract the files with wince cab manager.

Edit: I remembered all the names enough to be able to copy the files off my phone for you. Gave me something to do while stuck here at work :)

Here they are, ripped and zipped!
[Windows Mobile Themes] FeLix_TheDaRk:
the skins are spectacular! but i have a qvga device... not work on it.... T_T...

QVGA PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

att.Felix_TheDaRk
[Windows Mobile Themes] lathera:
there is that microsoft theam generator thing up on their site... but im not sure how you wuld go about cheking that.... altho you culd probubly generate a theam and chek the values there....
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
I just had a look at it and it's very basic. You can change a few elements but not the solid backgrounds or Font colours.

Thanks for the suggestion though!
[Windows Mobile Themes] srgudhka:
well it possible to play with colors for themes but it requires lil knowledge.

as you can c here tacchan has made black theme which i guess @lathera was looking for.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
That's one i was thinking of. He's done a great job there! It's not a look i would want for every Theme but i might try something like that in a future Black Theme.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
DG 'Black Gold' Theme ...

So here it is, by popular demand, a Theme with an all Black background. I've tweaked the graphics from the 'Gold' Theme to work better with the new style and it works great!

Please leave feedback. If you have issues please post with Pics and info about your Device.

Thanks!

For matching Dialer please refer to the original 'Gold' Theme
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Black Background Themes..

If anybody has trouble with the appearance in the WM Messaging App it could be that the build you have isn't compatable with the mod included with the Theme. To modify the Messaging App you need to edit the 'iframe_style.css' file found in your devices Windows Directory. (Notepad is fine for this).

This is a fairly easy job. Just follow the instructions below. (Use the links to learn more). Remember to back-up the original file before making any changes:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=614131

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=622520

1) Uninstall the Themes that have the mod. (Black Gold/Glass). This will return your 'iframe_style.css' file to default.

2) Copy that file from the Windows directory of your device to your pc and edit it with the additional two lines highlighted in the picture below.

3)Install Theme.

4)Copy edited file back to the Windows directory, overwriting the one that installed with the Theme.

Done :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] rfarrah:
That Gold is awesome. Very nice work!
[Windows Mobile Themes] dare2know:
wow,New look, thanks
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Deleted Mod.
[Windows Mobile Themes] tito12:
Hi DirkGently

This gold theme is very elegant and I like the black background. Thank you :)

Here are 2 screens

Notice the calendar, the dates before and after the month are invisible. Also in mail a little adjustment is needed
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Hey guy, good to hear from you!

Glad you like the Theme! I was expecting some quirky behaviour in places due to the Background, but thanks for pointing those out. I'll see what i can do about it :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] muz2000:
I've got white area only on the email incoming detail. attached. I'm using wqvga device with os 6.5 build 5.2.22011
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Fixed and .cabs re-upped.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Deleted Theme.
[Windows Mobile Themes] tito12:
Wow!

Don't you ever rest? I am developing a skin(ning) disease ;)

Thanks mate :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Coming thick and fast aren't they? :D

I've had a free week...but it's over now. Back to work :(

There's a couple of small changes to make to 'Glass' to improve it and then maybe a break for research purposes!
[Windows Mobile Themes] muz2000:
this is awsome, thanks...

I use it with finger keyboard 2.1 with this skin.. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=543463

The grey text (inactive text) is a bit hard to the eye.. maybe can make it a bit light...

Anyway thanks for the great work..
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
I'm doing some minor upates tonight so i'll have a go. One of the changes may affect the text that you mention.

Thanks for your feedback.

EDIT: Changed a few minor things & re-upped the .cabs. Don't know if the changes will have helped you but let me know either way.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Themes] billgs:
DG Glass is hands down the most impressive theme I have ever used on my Touch pro 2.

If only you could resolve the white text on white background bug (similar to others' black themes such as tacchan23 dusk raphael theme) when typing on landscape mode with the Rhodium hardware keyboard (eg when setting up a new mail account) it would be PERFECT.

Keep it up!

PS. An ultra cool Rhodium black dialer (with dedicated buttons for videocall and conference) would be much appreciated as well
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
I haven't seen the bug you mention as on my devices the Background colour is Black with White text when in the 'Setup new account' screen. Does this only happen in the specific scenario you mention above?

All credit to Tacchan btw, as he did all the hard work in bringing us Themes with Black backgrounds. It's a helluva job to try getting everything working flawlessly together.

The Dialer you mention is beyond the scope of what i do as i only skin the Default WM one. Maybe if i learn some new tricks further down the road :)

Thanks for posting.
[Windows Mobile Themes] billgs:
Thanks for the reply.

The issue is not specific.I will give you another example and hopefuly you can recreate it.

In my case I have Energy Leo ROM 23563 with CookieHome, running on a Rhodium.

From sense go to "internet" tab, then select "favorites" button (bottom left).From here touch "+Add favorite" and try to write in the "Title" space.

There it is,white letters on white background.It happens in other scenarios as well.The funny thing is that,if you touch on something else after the text input, the text now magically appears in black.

Please do check it, your theme is one step from being perfect. You could also consult tacchan's thread as he has a fix on the issue for raphael (being a noob I am not allowed to post links)

Cheers.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
I'll have a look, thanks. I found an instance in Opera too. (The Address Bar)

EDIT: I tried that fix but it broke too many other things. I'll keep looking for a solution but bear in mind that these Themes are primarily for people who don't use Manila.
[Windows Mobile Themes] dare2know:
hey

this one z refreshing nd really stunning.

thankx man, nice work
[Windows Mobile Themes] dare2know:
still i can nt read sms properly and file names..can u recheck ur Glass effects.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Hey dude!

The Theme includes a mod for the WM Messaging App to make it work. If yours is an old or incompatable version the mod may not work. There is a great Thread i posted a link to a couple of pages back about modifying the App. Can you post a pic to show the other issue?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Themes] dare2know:
im on onyx 6.5..x v10 ,QVGA, nd apart from highlighted everything is gloomy and it is serious problem when ur using it in open ...Bright day
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
I've been using mine out in the sun and actually found it easier to see with the Black/White contrast!

Fear not, a colour version, on White background, is coming :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] dare2know:
hey may b u should see few works of DSMA, on deviant art, i guess that will b new avenue for future development of ur works...and may b better nd better day by day
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
I'm always learning new things. My first Theme effort was a mod to one of the Default WM Themes. The work has come a long way since then :D

BTW, do you think we need a new Lockscreen Slider for the Glass Theme?
[Windows Mobile Themes] dare2know:
i dont really lock my device, its on hibernation actually...

cool pic see it
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Ok, the fixes are in! I've been narrowing down what each of the themevalues Registry settings does and learned some things in the process. Some of these things will mean improvements to all future Themes.

I've updated the 'Glass' and 'Black Gold' Themes and new cabs are up. Could somebody test with Manila and let me know if the White on White problem is fixed please? (I use a clean ROM so i can't test it on Manila myself).

Post any issues with the new cabs if you could.
[Windows Mobile Themes] rakeshtiw:
Thanks for sharing.
[Windows Mobile Themes] billgs:
Testing DG Glass as we speak - it seems that the issue has been resolved! Now the text is light gray against white background,totally acceptable.

Kudos to the OP once more....
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
That's great news. Thanks for testing.

Basically the colour has to be anything other than black or white so that the text can be seen everywhere. On a colour Theme this is easier as any colour will stand out in all situations (as seen on the Black Gold update). On a black Theme shades of grey are the only option really.
[Windows Mobile Themes] billgs:
A couple suggestions.

So far so good with the updated DG glass.Could you just change the blue letters on black background when clicking on an email message at the "Mail" tab? I think a light shade of grey (if not white) would be much more appropriate, what do you think?

Also can you consider skinning the top and bottom bars like you did with the softkeys? A degrade effect would really look slick, just take a look at DeKey's dkBlack Theme v2 (great guy, excellent,excellent theme but it somehow messes up Sense in some occasions).

PS.Do you have a donation account?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
The only blue i can think of is the standard colouring in the WM threaded SMS and i love the look of that with the black background!

As for the Softkey Bar/Taskbar, i tried many combinations and after many hours of painstaking design work this honestly looked the best to me. The black theme you mentioned doesn't use glass effect buttons and a bar like that one doesn't work at all well in this case.

No Donate link, i just enjoy doing it :)

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Coming soon, Resco Explorer skins.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Resco Explorer Skins HERE
[Windows Mobile Themes] Nokser:
How to set this theme (Black-Gold) in cooking ROM?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Hi!

If you are asking how to cook a theme into a rom that you are creating try the links http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=659615 or http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=650082&page=1 for starters. Hopefully that will help but if not have a search around. ;)

If you just want to know how to select the theme on your device then install cab, go to Menu>Settings>Home and choose the theme from the list. Click 'ok' and you're done!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Nokser:
Yes, i know, I must cook this theme in ROM....

Very Nice theme My frieng

I like you work...
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Let me know how you get on with the rom and show us your work when it's finished :)

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Themes] traianescu:
i want to stay with the original dialer from hd2 but i want to remove the dialer icon like these themes.. how to do this ?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
Could you show us which icon you are referring to?
[Windows Mobile Themes] traianescu:
this one, please
[Windows Mobile Themes] Dirk:
That looks like a fault with the Theme rather than something that is intended to appear.

Am i right in saying it's a Sense Theme you're using with a Custom Taskbar? Did you install the Theme and Taskbar yourself or is the Theme default? That's where i would start anyway if i were you. If you know whose work it was i would post in their Threads and ask for a solution.

Does that button appear normal if you remove the Taskbar? Just a thought.
[Windows Mobile Themes] traianescu:
works OK as default (portrait) .. i enabled landscape mode and as you can see i have this little graphical bug... to get rid off this one, i thought to install one of your dialer themes... but your dialer is not fully compatible with manila 2.5, so the solution for me is to remove that icon.. :D