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[HD2 General] free_umi:
Very tough call, but ultimately will be decided by what you do most with your phone.

I am staying with HD2 becuase Google calendar etc work fine, can sync my gmail account. Most important for me though is the ability to tweak. If you get the opportunity, try a HD2 with a cooked ROM (something like Dutty's or Energy).

I am equally impressed with the Nexus One, but it doesn't give me the same fun as the HD2. My work colleague has one. Whichever OS you go for, you're extremely unlikely to be dissapointed.

Umi
[HD2 General] Cheeze[iT]:
lol. I've had both and did try different roms. I'm just trying to see what people think. But I did like how it synced the contacts, gmail calender all that was great, I just didn't try voice, and try opening google docs. I get annoyed of the nexus on screen and the weird registry of touch. I think this is definately a tough decision.
[HD2 General] LordLugard:
One things that niggles me about Win Mo (i currently have a Treo Pro and TP2) is its lack of a good Google Voice and Facebook apps.

If you're invested in Google services already like gmail,maps,voice and so on, then the Nexus 1 would be what i'd say to stick with. If you want more tinkering (custom ROMS and such) and a bit more aggravation then Win Mo should be it.

I played with a Hero for a while and couldn't believe how seamless the Google services integrate with Android.

Me personally i want Android on a HD2-sized device....
[HD2 General] Cheeze[iT]:
I agree. I think I enjoy the form factor of the HD2 more than anything...
[HD2 General] lude219:
The HD2 (or WinMo for that matter) is an adult's phone. Imagine if it was advertised to kids on MTV, we'd have a whole forum littered with kids in tears because they couldn't receive their friends' facebook status update. :p

Android/iphone is dumbed down for the general public's use. WinMo is not. Which side are you?
[HD2 General] Cheeze[iT]:
thats one way of putting it... I'm all for the HD2, but like I mentioned, I just need the google integration. How do you think it handles, google latitude, and google docs? I already know it does sync, mail, and maps well enough.
[HD2 General] bocsta:
I looked hard at the Nexus but decided its styling wasnt doing it for me. Screen size was smaller as well.

After getting my T Mobile HD2 I was a little frustrated with what was and wasnt on that ROM. I just thought a lot of stuff would work out of the box....

So after my initial frustration, I've reflashed it with stock ROM and added stuff like coreplayer, myplayer etc ....

I got to say using the kaiser side by side with the Leo there is no comparison obviously.

The screen is superb in both quality and size. Who says size doent matter :D

still a happy winmo user :p
[HD2 General] kr00t0n:
Get HD2.

Dual-boot with Android.

????

Profit!
[HD2 General] emigrating:
I can't really comment on Google Voice/Docs as I don't use them myself - both are however supported on WinMo devices according to Google so you should be fine.

Latitude on the other hand I do use and as far as I can tell it works as well as it does on any other device. My location is 'always' up to date and I have access to my contacts locations by the press of a button. I've seen some reports on people saying their location is not updated if GM is not running/active, but have not experienced this myself; as long as I select to "continue sharing my location" it does so no matter if it's running or not.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] maklein:
Hi is there any chance to get more than 3 quicklinks on the today screen without having to install maxmanila?

Thx
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tictac0566:
First of all: You do have 9 quicklinks actually. Try to slide from the bottom to the top...

And for even more than 9 quicklinks - either 4 or 5 of them will be visible/accessible while showing the clock on the home tab:

Why don´t you check the sticky thread in this forum?

There are quite some suggestions for you - 16 or 20 quicklinks, depending on your ROM/Manila version
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] katermuc:
My Nexus doesn't show the senders phonenumber if the number i shorter than usual, i.g. in stead of showing "1880" the phone shows the first word in the message as sendername. Is this a generell problem in Android 2.1? Works fine on any other mobiles.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supergodie:
I also feel the same, I think is a ANDROID bug. :(
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supergodie:
Anybody have the same problem ?? :(
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zappza:
Confirmed.

For me the senders name shows up as a contact that starts or ends with the same numbers.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul22000:
Who/what are you receiving texts from with a short number like that?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] katermuc:
i.g. norwegian operators send messages from a 4 digit number.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neuro159:
Same problem for me

My bank uses 4 digit number for card notification and it works with android 1.6 on HTC Magic properly and uses 1st word from SMS body on NExus %((( both on official or CyanogenMod.

Does anybody know a solution?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neuro159:
There's a ticket in android tracker.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6526
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supergodie:
It was fixed in FROYO , close please :).
[G1 Android Development] kristoff123:
Just bringing this to the forefront, as it doesn't seem to be getting much attention - but it has to be as significant as the 10mb ram hack. This ROM is blazing fast in my opinion, even though it's an older cyanogenmod. Use SetCPU and choose "motorola" for device.

There is currently one stable 550mhz ROM available for download. The kernel should be compatible with donut and eclair ROMs, from what I gather. I had nothing to do with this work, I just want to see everyone's Dream come True! Hehe.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=557863&page=11

http://twitter.com/eugene373

- of course, feel free to delete my thread as soon as you think it's useless, lol.

Direct ROM link:

http://www.4shared.com/file/216263411/ec41ef7c/Full4231_550Mhz_Kernel.html

Wipe, Flash, and then use SetCpu, choosing "Motorola Droid" for device, if I remember correctly. You should be able to clock it at 550mhz.
[G1 Android Development] digitallysick:
Sounds good, currently I run superD how Can I use this?
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
take the boot.img from this and stick it into superd, then resign.
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
How is battery life? anybody?
[G1 Android Development] smuvman:
super d

im going to try it right now but i have one question. it shouldnt mess with any programs i have correct? i nandroided yesterday so im not that worried just dont wanna have to mess with it during the game lol
[G1 Android Development] digitallysick:
Here is the boot.img

http://www.mediafire.com/file/izmtwtabvxu/boot.img
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
will this work with the eclair rom in my sig?
[G1 Android Development] SarDroid:
How can I put boot.img with adb?
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
550MHz + Jit = flood @ my local sperm bank!!
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Too much information
[G1 Android Development] thenameismax:
I should just be able to apply this using Terminal Emulator I assume?
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
that works too. put it on your sd card and type it into any terminal on your phone:

flash_img boot /sdcard/boot.img
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Actually, I had someone flash it. It hangs at boot on most roms
[G1 Android Development] Bronk93:
Also Im assuming you would need to disable the cpu scaling in user.conf for this to work?
[G1 Android Development] thenameismax:
Thanks man. I wasn't 100% sure due to I havent flashed anything thru TE since cyan 4.2.9.1.
[G1 Android Development] jklong03:
Sorta Works on OpenEclair

I flashed it on my OE1.1.4 and it booted, but was kinda jerky and wireless was unable to start.

But gave me hope and I look forward to maybe WesGarner getting a shot at compiling a complete ROM with this included!
[G1 Android Development] KingSkeme:
Im bout to try this out with SuperD.....will report back
[G1 Android Development] linuxluver:
What devices?

Looks like it may work with Magic 32B as well as that phone has the same processor as the Dream / G1 (MSM7201A).

Anyone know for sure - or tried it?
[G1 Android Development] KingSkeme:
Im bout to try it right now :cool:

*edit* Its booting up now...hopefully it doesnt loop
[G1 Android Development] kristoff123:
It should work on Dreams and Sapphires. I wouldn't flash just the boot.img to your current ROM, just wait for an official release. My guess is that within 24 hours there will be a few of them out.

I have officially decided to hang on to my G1 a bit longer in light of this new development. What I'm really waiting for is HD2 on Tmobile, with an android rom. ETA 2 months :)
[G1 Android Development] axlastro:
Kernel w/o ram hack ?

Please, stop arguing and criticizing - it's a great mod and I personally noticed speed improvement in the browser on the G1, which is one of the most important things for many users. What is missing is a kernel without the ram hack for 1.6 users that actually play games. So PLEASE, can anyone compile a kernel without the ramhack for cyanogen users.

I tried with flash_img boot /sdcard/boot.img but for some reason terminal says it doesn't recognise the command. Maybe I'm missing some binaries...
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
You'll need setcpu. It's free in the app section
[G1 Android Development] ID#:
Is there a 780MHz version with RAMHack and WiFi? :p

//Edit: I think

1# this is my shortest post here ever

2# this is my noobiest post here ever

3# this is the most lazy question of mine -.-
[G1 Android Development] Firehead:
I can't seem to get my phone to boot past the first G1 screen.

-Can go into the recovery mode

-Used the latest cyan+the boot.img at first, noticed that didn't work and then I wiped and tried to go back to the latest cyan, no dice. Then I tried with that AOSP that was posted (the one from 4shared) and I still can't get it to work..
[G1 Android Development] acejoker25000:
question will your no wipe 780mhz update work on any eclair build since its basically just the boot image and the wlan.ko?
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
That's what I'm thinking since it isn't build specific, but I'm not going to say def. yes then I'll be accused of something when it doesn't work
[G1 Android Development] acejoker25000:
lol i wouldnt blame u if something goes wrong! we all know that there are risks involved! but can never be too sure! maybe a nandroid backup then flash should be in order just in case!
[G1 Android Development] pershoot:
the kernel already has 550 max and 128min hardcoded for ondemand governor. you don't need to use setcpu.
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
Check CPU

Hey guys is there a way to check CPU status via ADB or Terminal?
[G1 Android Development] pershoot:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
[G1 Android Development] charnsingh_online:
i ported it over to 32a but i cant scale up the frequencies, do we have to compile for 32a???
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
Thank you :) .
[G1 Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
I use SetCPU for the custom profiles, (screen off, when charging, power management).
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
Does this kernel have the 10Mb hack?

I ask because some of my programs and games like Armageddon Squadron, Cube, and HomeRunBattle3D run at full retard.
[G1 Android Development] Jedipottsy:
32A has a different processor, so it wont work.
[G1 Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
780mhz OpenEclair v1.0.1

Thanks Eugene, JAguirre, and CoolBHO.

How-to for OpenEclair v1.0.1:

1. Download JAguirre's kernel image and place it on SD card

2. Download and Install CoolBHO's SetCPU app

3. Download custom setcpu.txt and place it on SD card

4. Boot into recovery and flash JAguirre's kernel image

5. Open SetCPU, Allow SU Request, and scroll down to Custom Frequency Config

Note: To prevent possible overheating, there's a Failsafe Profile in SetCPU that will lower the frequency when battery temperatures reach a certain degree.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I see your using the ugly,. not optimized version of the live wallpapers
[G1 Android Development] IConrad01:
Just to confirm; the 780MHz overclocking is not for the Dream/G1; correct?
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
Yo link is messed up yo.
[G1 Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
It's a fresh flash so haven't done any tweaking to the rom yet. :)

Fixed yo.

Works with G1/myTouch. :D
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Use these one's they are better

http://www.4shared.com/file/217038020/433c863b/LiveWallpapers.html
[G1 Android Development] TGA_Gunnman:
Display CPU info in realtime. Make / Frequency /etc..

To see your CPU frequency in Linux you would go to a terminal and cat /proc/cpuinfo. I tested it on my G1 and it works fine.
[G1 Android Development] Firehead:
Anyone :/?
[G1 Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
The 550mhz for CM; you must flash Pershoot's kernel image in recovery on top of CM's latest.
[G1 Android Development] ElahC:
How can this be applied to Kingklicks eclair hero rom? It's fast, but It could go even faster.
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
@BoomBoomPOW

Is there a way to get the 780Mhz kernel to work with CM-4.2.14.1 without causing the system to freeze?

I would love to have video acceleration and some blazing speed :).

Also please remove the 10Mb hack.
[G1 Android Development] macher91:
JAguirre's kernel image working with openeclair 1.1.1? I tried use it with this rom but it stop on first G1 screen
[G1 Android Development] bubonik:
Using the 780 kernel on OE 1.0.1

Benchmark via setcpu is 100ms faster than sd 1.8.

Curious why eugene is using .27 and not .29.
[G1 Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
Pershoot is working on a 780mhz for CM-4.2.14.1 as we speak. Not sure if he will remove the 10mb hack. You should ask him in this thread.

780mhz does not work on OE v1.1.1

It currently works on v1.0.1 and v1.1.4
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
Thank you for responding to my question and pointing me in the right direction.
[G1 Android Development] LesserAnimal:
780mhz on OE 1.0.1 working beautifully.
[G1 Android Development] pershoot:
780?! nahh. won't even go there. i can imagine some blown out batteries/cpu in the longrun. can't imagine VDD_7 being able to keep that clock stable for longevity. not sure if one can even write to that register to increase voltage (probably not a good idea at all, since there isn't extra cooling that can be put on to the cpu). i will, however, compile stock cm kernel with 550 max (as oppose to 528). i'll post it most likely tonight at some point, in this thread only.
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
You could release a 780Mhz kernel with

no

10Mb hack and label it experimental.

I would love to see my Dream clocked at 780Mhz even if it's just for a fleeting second.
[G1 Android Development] pershoot:
i will see.. however, i will not post it in this thread and pm you the link instead. if i do make one, you take full responsibility for any damage that may ocurr short-term (i.e. immediate), longterm and or otherwise. ok?
[G1 Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
I jumped the gun there. I guess I'll stick with the 550mhz that you posted

PM me one too! :D
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
Yes my liège! I understand :D.
[G1 Android Development] bubonik:
Having an issue that OE 1.0.1 doesnt retain 780mhz. It will boot to that, but upon a sleep cycle it drops to 384 and stays there.

Edit: Profile issues on my end. Disregard this.
[G1 Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
Configure the profile settings and Set on Boot in SetCPU
[G1 Android Development] linuxluver:
Clever!

I guess that's why they call them "smart phones".
[G1 Android Development] revo420:
After the bickering in the beginning I am glad we could all get along and contribute to something new and great on our aging phones. Progress is progress no matter how little it may be.

Will run some benchmarks tonight. Stock CM kernel, Pershoot 10mb hack kernel, and Pershoot OC kernel w/ 10mb hack

Thanks for the work Eugene!
[G1 Android Development] Frito37:
pm me that too please :D
[G1 Android Development] IConrad01:
That does yield an interesting question; if "the 780 MHz" kernel is set up for the G1, would that enable frequencies between 550 and 780, such as 600?

We could just use SetCPU (or Userinit.sh) to prevent overclocking to unsafe levels, one would imagine...
[G1 Android Development] axlastro:
Can anyone make an OC kernel without the frickin 10 mb hack please. Thank you.
[G1 Android Development] linuxluver:
Have you set 550 as max and min? If you haven't, the phone will scale up and down....on demand (by default).

I agree the benchmark tools don't appear to show a change they can measure.

But I also notice how much faster network and camera activity are....and it can't be placebo. It's just.....*faster*.
[G1 Android Development] kristoff123:
If you can pm the 780mhz rom, I will test it. Thanks.
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
This man speaks much logic. What's the use of overclocking if video acceleration remains garbage?

That's like overclocking a quad-core PC beyond 3Ghz and expecting the Intel Intergrated graphics to play Crysis.
[G1 Android Development] kristoff123:
Well, I think roms should offer it as an option, at the least, or just 2 diffferent ver, one with and one without. I think an extra 10mb ram is great, unless you need more 3d acceleration, which I personally do. Did I mention that my g1 is also my 3d gps nav, my super nintendo console, and my gameboy advance console as well? 8->
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
That's what I'm talking about, more options. Like a standalone overclocked kernel, standalone 10Mb kernel, an overclocked 10Mb hybrid, and some other combinations with BFS or whatever.

And I use my Dream as a GPS unit (Ndrive) whenever I'm walking somewhere I'm not familiar with, a Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, NES, SNES, Genesis, and a badass DJ mixing studio :D.
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
@JAg: I gotta thank you bro, 1.0.1 is DEFINITELY faster. Killer work putting that together. And thanks BoomBoomPOW for the instructions.

Full benches to follow...
[G1 Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
I'm just the messenger, give praise to Eugene especially as well.

Also, are you planning to sticking with 780mhz kernel for awhile? If you are, try to document any hiccups or issues from prolonged use. As stated by Pershoot, this might, and will probably fry your cpu. I suggest setting your Max/Min to 780/128, so it fluctuates in between. And keep an eye out for you battery temperature. Be sure to set the Failsafe Profile on SetCPU.
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
what app do you use for dj

zalgo
[G1 Android Development] linuxluver:
Occasional 768MHz?
[G1 Android Development] LesserAnimal:
eclair at 780mhz finally feels smooth enough to use with out frustration.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
P.S. Change the thread from 550 to 780
[G1 Android Development] Frito37:
Why wasn't it compiled on a cyanogen build or WG build?
[G1 Android Development] pl_laszlo:
Anyone have a 780mhz@kernel with 10mb-rh for eclair/xrom?
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
Uloops Music Composer and Loops.
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
I, and we as a community as a whole, owe Eugene the biggest gratitude of all. He gave all our 1st gen devices new life, and created a ripple that'll be around for a looonnnggg time to come.

Yup, I will definitely be keeping the 780 kernel. I used setcpu to use 528-780 when active. It calls for 628 a lot, haven't seen over yet. Its also set to be comatose on sleep and above 40C. And my batt/phone in whole right now is actually pretty cool. And the temperature is pretty low too ;) lol. Def cooler than it usually is while charging and using, my hand isn't sweating lol. 32C off charger, 37C on. I WILL be doing things intentionally to push this and see how far it goes.

Is anyone having like a TITANIC cache with this (or with 550MHz)? I'm used to seeing 5MB operating cache with OE non-Jit, Jit was 18. I haven't seen less than 50MB cache with either clock hack yet.
[G1 Android Development] pershoot:
probably not fry, because the voltage isn't changing past 1.325v, but it could start causing instabilities where there were none previously, which would cause breakdown.
[G1 Android Development] eugene373:
Well, so far I'm not found any instability, but only a Few weeks of Running will tell the out come.
[G1 Android Development] Hero_Over:
ok so ive run various tests, stress tests, and bechmarks.

-cpu tested at full load for an hour. No instabilties or lockups

-benchmarked at 384,528,550,780mhz

-i noticed that 384 was slowest (obviously) but 528,550,and 780 seemed to have the results

-my best guess to this is that the cpu has a high clock speed but neither the fsb or memory is made to operate at these levels.

-I believe that if simply overclocking our processor clock meant we had a significantly faster phone somebody wouldve done it already. i remember the OG overclock (528) from this forum in november 2008. we all came to the conclusion that high proc. clock speed and low bus/mem speed meant almost no difference
[G1 Android Development] pershoot:
yup. for sure, elongated testing needs to ocurr to get a definitive answer.

for all those running past 600mhz on g1, with it plugged in for one hour, how hot does it get to the touch (aside from the normal warmness when charging)?
[G1 Android Development] DynaMight:
I cant see it being a major problem if the voltage remains the same. It'll get a little hotter and drain the battery quicker but shouldn't damage the CPU. If it's too much to handle it should crash or bring up errors. In the PC world, you overclock until it gets unstable then knock it back a notch or two, something CPU intensive would be a good way of testing stability. Thankfully with CPU scaling it doesnt run flat out all the time, just when you need it.
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
I'm still wondering how exactly this is working. Once the processor is allowed to reach any speed, setting the speed through cat XXXXX for max/min frequency should work. Also, the kernel, for the most part, is independent of the Android framework. The only part where I've seen incompatibilities between kernels and android only pertaining the camera, but that's because cupcake's libcamera is made against 2.6.27, so tossing a 2.6.29 would break it. With that said, a speed hack on a 2.6.29 kernel should work on all 2.6.29 target builds, including donut, 2.0, 2.1, etc.

I haven't tested it, and although I diff the code to check what changed, I can't honestly say what's going on since I've never done any CPU programming.

However, I do find it odd that the hack supposedly works on only one type of build (eclair) with only one app. Also, the stability at such a difference from stock speed (384 vs 780, twice the processor speed) just doesn't seem realistic. I'd expect anything past 650 to start choking.

I think the supposed speed boost could be best attributed to placebo and a bug in the SetCPU app (I don't see how mocking the Device, other than for knowing which speed settings are allowed, should make a difference). It could just be that the CPU is reporting that it supports the higher speeds, but effectively these aren't as high as reported.

Probably somebody with cpu programming experience could toss an opinion on this.
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
this is sooooo amazing!!!
[G1 Android Development] linuxluver:
If the MyTouch3G is the same as an HTC Magic 32B....then it will have the same MSM7201A processor as the G1.

It's the HTC Magic 32A that has the same processor as the Hero.
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
Lol@that contrast

Jubeh, I can't explain how it works either, nor do I know the limits of scaling, but it definitely does. I start to rotate my phone, it'll finish the rotation before I'm done rotating my phone. Lol placebo ain't gonna do that for you.

You should give it a try.
[G1 Android Development] PlatinumMOTO:
where is the link for the Eclair version of the 550MHz? the rapidshare post is down