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[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
So i've searched the forum for how to backup my phone as i want to install the official 1.6 rom which i got from the HTC site yesterday.

Now, after reading tons of threads i must say i'm still confused. I'm surprised there is not a simple stickied guide for noobs on how to simply backup your phone, upgrade and restore.

I was good at this malarky on symbian but this is like starting over gain, i'm clueless. I know the apps SPB, Sprite & pimbackup as well as microsoft my phone are all options for backing up but i need to get this staright in my nooby nut before i start it. So...

What i want:

1). a programme that will back up my contacts and most importantly my SETTINGS, no one seems to mention backing up the settings :confused:

2). then, should i hard reset before the upgrade? hard reset after? both? not at all?

3). I'm not bothered about registry tweaks i can redo the ones i want and i've got all my cabs on my pc ready to re-install.

Sorry if i'm being thick but i want to get this right, i don't want to lose all my settings and have to go through the entire phone to make it mine again..

If the above 3 questions can be simply answered i would be eternaly grateful :D
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
The reason backup.restire isn't really mentioned much is that restoring settings after can be a little hit and miss. I hear spb backup can restore settings after a new rom, but also there are several threads where people say the phone fails to boot after the restore and they must hard reset.

The reason is that flashing a new rom is like completely wiping and reinstalling your pc operating system. Its a whole new system, so if you restore for example some registry settings, there is no guarantee that something in the new rom isn't changed from the old one.

Personally, i just re do everything manually. (Flashed a new rom not 30 minutes ago actually, and all i have left to set up is the email accounts. Takes no more than 20 minutes all in to get ot back to how i had it before)

You should hard reset after you flash a new rom. No point doing it before. Do teh flash, let it set itself up, then hard reset, let it set itself up again, start using.

You have cabs and reg tweaks saved, (as do i) so i'd say bite the bullet and do the settings manually.
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
Hell Jonbaker,

Appreciate you have taken some time to search which is what a lot of new users DON'T do so lets help you out here.

I suggest you do this:

Go to the SPB Mobile website, download a trial version of SPB Backup. When you run it the software backs up the following:

- PIM Data including text messages

- Email

- Documents and files

- System files and settings.

Once you have done this, ie made the backup onto a dedicated sub directory on the SD card on your device, do the following: as a further backup, make a copy of the SPB backup file and transfer it to your PC. This way if anything goes wrong you have 2 copies of this valuable file in 2 different locations.

Next upgrade your ROM from the HTC site, which seems to be your preferred option.

Once the ROM is installed and the phone boots back up ok

AND

you are happy that there are no problems with the ROM then do the following:

- Use file explorer to navigate to the sub directory on your SD card where you kept the original SPB backup file from before.

- Tap on the file and it will eventually load up. Note that it is a self executable file but it sometimes takes a little while to load up

-

This bit is important:

once the file is loaded up, walk carefully through the screens until you see the options for Full Restore or Customized Restore

- Choose Cutomized Restore. If you don't you

WILL

screw up your new installation

- At the next screen you will see that ALL the options are already ticked.

Untick System Data

. This bit is very important. Leave all other options ticked

- Walk through the rest of the screens then let the software do its thing

- Once done the device will reboot itself and all your data, PIM, emails, etc will have been restored.

Job Done.

By the way, you will have to restore your software packages manually but at least your PIM data is already restored automatically. Afraid there is no other way out if you are changing ROMS.

If you get stuck come back and we can see what we can do. If you take your time and think logically you will be fine.

Cheers

WB

PS: Whatever you do, DO NOT DELETE the SPB Backup file as you may need it again at a later date. Also get into the habit of making regular automated backups which this software allows you to do.

I backup every day, 7 days a week, for peace of mind.

WB
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
mmmm, pain in the arse, i've had this phone a week and i've spent hours and hours learning it and getting it how i want it and now i learn of the new rom and i got to start from scratch again.

After coming from the N96 where an over the air upgrade could be done and not losing a single file or setting without backing up, this is taking a huge step back for me. However, that was the only advantage i could tell you that the n96 has over this phone! :D

I might try the spb backup, if it fails on my settings i can hard reset no loss yeah?

Thanks for the info again mate, very helpful member ;)
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
Excellent advice, i will try this, i appreciatte you taking the time to write all that out in detail. I shall follow the steps you gave and report back with how i got on :D

one last thing, at what point should i hard reset? i'm guessing straight after i'm happy the rom has been installed correctly. Then restore?
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
Great post WB.

However... your statement i quoted above is not 100% correct. Its sort of dependant upon what ROM you are upgrading to and whether a system restore using SPB Backup will cause problems or not. The only way to tell is to actually try it out!

For info here... i have used SPB Backup for years. Recently though i used SPB Backup to backup my entire system,... applications, registry etc (not PIM data as i use MS Exchange to simply sync).

I then upgraded my ROM from 1.43 stock to 1.66 stock and restored using my backup file.... everything was back... all of my apps and registry tweaks were present and working with no hiccups AT ALL. The restored system was complete and included system integrated stuff like SPB Mobile Shell, S2u2 and even my manila home screen edits and tweaks.

It was then a simple matter of synching with exchange to get my contacts back.

When you run the restore on your newly flashed device... definately do a custom restore and if you are doing system data also, SPB Backup should prompt you with the fact that it has recognised your ROM has changed. You should then run the restore in ROM upgrade mode.
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
hmmm, system data.. would that mean registry tweaks and installed apps? does that also include settings or is that covered else where in the restore?
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
system data is indeed ALL of your apps and registry tweaks.

WB's post will only backup and restore your PIM data.

What i am saying is that you can indeed backup and restore EVERYTHING!

If i were you i would do two backups... one for just your PIM data,... and the other one for PIM AND system data.

Then when you do a full restore with ALL of your apps, settings, registry tweaks (system data) and get any issues... at least you have your PIM data backed up seperately.
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
@ Audio Oblivion,

I know where you are coming from; however I wanted to ensure that the OP had a 100% safe route back to a new working system hence me posting the intructions the way I did.

No offence to the OP but I gather at the moment that the simpler things are for him the better the end result! :)

To the OP, take my route (honest, I'm not precious about it) and you will be fine. :)

WB
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
ok cool, i have 2 last questions:

1). where do i install spb, i take it on the storage card as it would get removed from the phone memory.

2). What backup setting takes care of the actual phone SETTINGS is that in PIM or system data?

oh and this: one last thing, at what point should i hard reset? i'm guessing straight after i'm happy the rom has been installed correctly. Then restore?
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
yep... im sure he appreciates it and you are 100% correct your method is safe.

Im just expanding his horizons a little ... :-)
[HD2 General] UncleBeer:
I've flashed about 20 times, and each time SPB restored reliably. Worst case scenario if it doesn't work: reinstall everything by hand. Shouldn't take too long.

Suggestion: keep a folder on your SD card of all cabs you'd want reinstalled. Handy regardless of outcome.
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
ok cool, i have 3 last questions:

1). where do i install spb, i take it on the storage card as it would get removed from the phone memory.

2). What backup setting takes care of the actual phone SETTINGS is that in PIM or system data?

3). At what point should i hard reset? i'm guessing straight after i'm happy the rom has been installed correctly. Then restore?

I'm ready to roll, just need to know the above , many thanks
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
3 rules for anyone with a winmo device:

1. Keep a folder with all of your cabs, reg entries, tweak files etc on your sd card.

2. Backup PIM data (i use MS exchange.. you can use PIM Backup, SPB Backup... whatever...)

3. When you have all of your core apps installed and the phone is completely setup... Do a system data backup (i use SPB Backup).

You can now wipe your device and restore completely within minutes at any given time.
[HD2 General] UncleBeer:
1) card. Pretty sure you don't have a choice.

2) as I said, I do a complete backup and a complete restore, so in my case, the question is moot.

3) right after the new ROM boots completely.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
1. Install SPB Backup wherever you like... i install all of my apps on SD unless there is a specific reason to install them on device memory (functionality issues etc). The Backup file that SPB creates is a self extracting exe file so you dont need to actually install SPB backup to run it.

2. Depends exactly which settings you are referring to but if you want what i think then the answer is system data.

3. After the rom has installed correctly and you have run through the initial device setup. Hard reset the device and run through device setup once more.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
Just to clarify here:

PIM data is contacts, emails, texts and their associated accounts.

System data is EVERYTHING ELSE!
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
Just thought i might mention in this backup thread that there are certain apps that dont need re-installing on fresh device builds (after rom flash or wipe) if they have already been installed to removal media such as SD cards.

SPB Backup is one of them, Tom Tom is another... there are loads actually... most of my apps dont need re-installing.

The basic rule is... if you can install it to your SD card.... after a rom flash/wipe try to run it straight from the program files folder on your sd card without running the install first. If it works... simply copy a shortcut for it into the windows start menu.
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
Yeah the settings i'm referring to Audio Oblivion are like ringtones, backlight options etc, so that is system data.

I'm good to go now, big thanks to all that have helped me in this thread :)

I'm sure other WM noobs will find this thread useful if found
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
Let us know how you get on. Think logically and DON'T panic.

Worse comes to the worse you can always repeat your steps provided you keep hold of that SPB Backup file like your life depended on it. :)

WB
[HD2 General] jonbaker76:
I successfully upgraded to 1.66 earlier, didn't need a backup as i had to emergency hard reset today, been a real bugger has today see here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5652554#post5652554

Thanks for all your help, i know what i'm doing now :D
[HD2 General] MadSoldier:
I even have giving them numbers (cab files and tweaks) to sort the installation. You shoot not start with games befor you install program

My HD2 is working great now and I’m going to take a backup.

My idea about reinstall the backup after a ROM update is, you can always try it. But if it is not working great, reinstall everything.

With your PC, if you have a brand new one, you can not use a (full)backup of your other PC The hardware is not the same.

With the HD2, the hardware is the same, but if the ROM is different, you never know what to expect after reinstalling the backup.

A backup is the most interesting if you have a crash. Then it shoot be no problem to set it back because nothing is changed of ROM ao.
[HD2 General] MadSoldier:
But I have a question about Spb Backup

1: dues it take also a backup of your installed files on the memory card?

2: Can you choose total backup incl total memory card?

3: Or can you select what you want to backup of the card?

4: Is Sprite Backup also good? Which is the best?

Thx Mad
[HD2 General] el_kamilus:
@wb

Great job, i appreciate that you simply and clearly write step by step what to do. Thanks a lot.

Overall i have one question. I can’t find clear answer.

Can i backup and save on PC my branded ROM? Yes or No?

I would be eternally grateful for some faq like write WB about backups.

If this operations is too complicated for noobs ok, i under stand and i shut up :)
[HD2 General] sangnariu:
I was looking for a post like this one, about Backups, and it was very nice to find this one here, thanks for the help.

But I still have one doubt: my HD2 came with IGO v8 (the seller installed it to the SD card) and I would like to know if I upgrade the ROM I will loose the GPS. Do I have to backup it or it's not necessary? Thank you guys.
[HD2 General] Vipersa:
Question: How do I backup my Opera 9.7 favourites and my Swype dictionary file as I have quite a number of Opera favourites and have added quite a few words to my Swype dictionary.
[HD2 General] sblar:
Hard reset?

Hi. I have succesfully upgraded to 1.66 and restored all my settings and apps. with SPB ROM upgrade mode. I had to find out myself how to do it and it toke 4 tries before I found the right procedure. Wish I had seen this thread before ;)

Anyway, my question is: Why is a hard reset necessary? I havn't done it as I figured that the flash itself was the hardest reset!
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
Answers to questions on here

OK. I have taken a number of questions on here and dropped them into this post to give answers so here goes..

But I have a question about Spb Backup

1: dues it take also a backup of your installed files on the memory card?

Answer

- If you have installed programme files on the SD card they will be backed up when you run SPB Backup. This is NOT the same as backing up all the files on the SD card. You can do that if you specify that option in the backup but not sure why you would want to. Best way to backup your SD card is to copy the contents to a folder on your PC.

2: Can you choose total backup incl total memory card?

Answer

-See answer above

3: Or can you select what you want to backup of the card?

Answer

- See answer above

4: Is Sprite Backup also good? Which is the best?

Answer

- Never used Sprite backup so I can't answer that but SPB Backup is very good.

Can i backup and save on PC my branded ROM? Yes or No?

Answer

- No. You need to search on XDA for a copy of your branded ROM. You cannot backup a ROM in the same way as you can backup files.

My HD2 came with IGO v8 (the seller installed it to the SD card) and I would like to know if I upgrade the ROM I will loose the GPS.

Answer

- Not sure how IGO works so I can't answer. However with another package that I use, CoPilot, on the SD card, every time you kick off a new rom Copilot comes up ready for auto install. Do a search on XDA to see if anyone has the answer to your question

How do I backup my Opera 9.7 favourites and my Swype dictionary file as I have quite a number of Opera favourites and have added quite a few words to my Swype dictionary.

Answer

- As far as I am aware if you run a full SPB backup session ALL of your favourites, etc, get backed up. I use Swype but have not created any special dictionary files so I can't confirm this for sure; however I would be surprised if they were not successfully backed up.

Why is a hard reset necessary? I havn't done it as I figured that the flash itself was the hardest reset!

Answer

- It is now established for the HD2 that if you flash a new rom then a hard reset straight after is a good thing to do to clear out any old data files. There are threads here on XDA about this.

Hope this answers all questions as best as I can.

WB
[HD2 General] el_kamilus:
Another clearly and simple answers. Thanks a lot WB.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shadow_empire1:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=561124

Just wanted to know if 1.5.3.1 is working on 32A?

Amon_RA's first post is unclear to me:

"This recovery if for the HTC Hero only, so NOT the Sprint Hero!!!, it will also work on the 32A Sapphire if you flashed the 6.35.x.x radio and 1.76.x SPL, ..."
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magicdroid:
It will only work on Magic's with Radio version 6.35.x.x and SPL version 1.76.x

In other words, only if you have the latest radio running (from the latest HTC updates).

edit: lol.. just saw your signature.. it will work on your Magic since you are running CursorSense rom.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shadow_empire1:
ok, verified :)

just put it on my magic:

In fastboot-mode:

fastboot erase recovery

fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-hero-v1.5.3.1.img

fastboot oem powerdown
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dagansta24:
nice

nice recovery
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haneen:
Hi, i need to know why modinfo isn't working on Android and if there is someother command that replaces it?

Thanks
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] st_voss:
You can try "insmod".

It needs the path the kernel module file as parameter. E.g.

insmod /path/to/module.ko
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RandyB201:
Trying to explore / understand installed modules

I have read that to understand all the drivers / modules installed on my Android device, I must look at everything in these two directories: /system/lib/modules and /sys/module

my device has no modules directory in the /system/lib directory.

in /sys/module, I have:

kernel

printk

wakelock

userwakelock

earlysuspend

spurious

omap3epfb

keyboard

vt

bridgedriver

scsi_mod

usbcore

musb_hdrc

omap_hdq

w1_bq27000

usbhid

binder

lowmemorykiller

snd

snd_timer

snd_pcm

snd_dummy

oprofile

tcp_cubic

rfkill

pvrsrvkm

omaplfb

bc_example

tiwlan_drv

None of these directories has any files ending in .ko? Using Root Explorer to search for *.ko, finds only these:

/etc/wifi/tiwlan_drv.ko

/system/bin/sgx/omaplfb.ko

/system/bin/sgx/pvrsrvkm.ko

Can someone help me figure out how to get the equivalent of modinfo details for these?

Thanks.

Environment info:

device runs Android 2.1 I use adbKonnect to connect wirelessly with my PC

PC is running XP
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] james1123:
Hi, i am looking for a wm6.5.3 rom for my hermes 100. i cant seem to find any "original" looking roms.

i do like the hyperdragon rom but i cant find it so any help would be apreciated

thankyou.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] addicus:
All wm6.5.3 roms for the hermes are cooked roms as it was never developed for our phones. Therefore none will look "original". I hope that answers your questions.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] james1123:
ok thanks, but do you know where i could find a hyper-dragon ROM i have seen it on the Hermes 100 and am wandering where to download it?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] addicus:
I'm not familiar with that particular one. That seems more like a Kaiser rom but I could be wrong. Either way use the search this forum option or the search option. Put in hyperdragon and it will give you the top returns for xda. Good luck. BTW you can find most of what you want/need here that way for future reference.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] james1123:
I cant seem to find it either. i just want a WM6.5.3 rom thats stable.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] james1123:
heres the hyperdragon kaiser rom
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] james1123:
i have just found a link to lots of roms which could come in use.

Just scroll down a bit. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ultramag69:
If its a KAISER rom then installing it on your HERMES will brick it...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] addicus:
I assumed he knew that, but should have mentioned it. My bad. You can only put Hermes roms on Hermes machines.
[Touch2 General] Javi:
Hi,

I've searched this site but I can't find it, can someone please direct me to a Mega/Touch2 WM6.5 hacks and tweaks wiki please. I'd like to change some registry settings but need some help, as I'm using old WM5 registry tweaks and hacks but obviously are not working.

many thanks
[Touch2 General] Frank C:
You can use "Advanced configuration tools 3.3" and "Diamond tweak" for that purpose. Than 85-90% is covered.

Easy to find with search function.......;)

Another option is to go here...http://nowsci.com/registry-changer/ but use it AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!!!

Have fun.....:)
[Touch2 General] donSjon:
a lot of tweaks for the HD2 also work on the touch2:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583638
[Touch2 General] Frank C:
Thanks.....:D.....had not seen this one yet.......
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] zeroplace:
I have a mytouch 3G. When I bought the phone it was, from factory, a 32B. I see in the Dev section that development is for 32A only in the Sapphire(MT3G) section. Do I just need to pretend like this is a Dream and use Dream ROMS? And Why?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] sindrefyrn:
Most Dream ROMs will work on 32B, so yes - pretend it's a dream. But this section is for 32B as well as 32A.

The difference between the 32A and 32B is the motherboard. 32B have the same motherboard as dream, with less RAM than 32A.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] zeroplace:
I have 288MB of memory on this 32B phone. From what I have read, this is the amount of memory on the 32A device. Im guess Im just confused here. If I have the memory of a 32A device, why is my hardware of 32B?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] swissp:
Unless someone's flashed a 32B radio on this phone (and that is not the case as you said you'd bought it new), that is not possible. May I ask where you got this information from?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] zeroplace:
When I bought the phone new from tmobile, the sales person was going through some things on how to use it and how to change things. From there he showed me the where the SD Card and phone memory was located to see what was remaining and how much was used. It said for available memory, as it does now, 272MB Available internal phone storage. I assume that the factory software is taking up some space. Also this is a 32B from the day out of the box. I have done my research here before and after my purchase. I sought out all the info and how to find it on the phone before I did anything.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] visitador02:
It must be the newer Tmobile phones (read the thread "who feel jipped"). I believe it is a hybrid (a 32A motherboard with 32B software). Be careful if you decide to root this phone because of their unique SPL and radio. You can find threads on the developer's forum for the fender, which I think is the same thing.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] majoraccent:
I think this is the internal Flash memory used to store the operating system and other software. This is different from the RAM that has been reduced in the 32B version.