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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Beefheart:
What, you actually believe the fact a pinch to zoom feature has yet to be implemented equates to Opera believing a two zoom level is superior? That's really quite amusing. How do you think features change between versions? It's about improvements 95% of the time, not a sudden reversal on a feature preference by the developers.

Personally, I'd say the lack of pinch to zoom is because the HD2 is the only Windows Mobile device that currently supports dual touch out of the box and therefore they could view the feature as being a bit pointless at the moment. Like I said though, that is going to change over the coming months and I will put money on pinch to zoom being implemented in Opera as a result.

Yes, that must be it. Let's ignore the fact the bundled Opera on the Leo has it and it gives you more control over how you view a web page. It must be something to do with that hateful iPhone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] onisuk:
i wasnt too keen on opera but this browser is frickin' ace ! love it :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] xenept:
Can I suggest that folks post any issues/enhancements on the official Opera Beta 3 for Windows Mobile forum as it's no point us moaning about stuff if we don't tell the developers!!

Here's the forum: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=102

I'm loving the opera links thing as I've now got all my bookmarks automatically synced with my opera on my desktop.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] loomx:
Pinch to zoom/multiple zoom levels must be very easy for them to implement because you can change how far the single tap zoom zooms in, from 100% up to 300%, standard zoom level is 200%
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] TheOnly1:
Was just going to tell the same :) You can in fact adjust zoom levels in the setting menu of Opera.

I love the new Beta3 but IE is still 1st choice for flash although the solution with the play button is really cool. This way you don't need to load all flash banners you don't want to see.

Edit: pinch-to-zoom also works to some extent with BSB Tweaks 1.6 :) Opera 10 is now really the best in the field.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] lancelot54:
And what about

thumbnails

in quick-links in the Internet and Home tabs ??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pkchips:
beta 2 didn't impress me at all, but this beta 3 is truly impressive :-). So much better looking and so smooth, and I like the animations too. I can't wait for them to actually release the final thing.

The lack of pinch to zoom is my only gripe with this program. And the idea that only 2 levels of zoom are supported is nonsense - the zoom level can be changed in the settings menu.

:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] chalid:
pinch to zoom would indeed be nice. without it, i will stick to opera 9.7.

depending on the website, its just nice to zoom in or out a little more than standard zoom level. especially when in public, its better to adjust the zoom level nice and easy instead of adjusting the distance between eyes and phone ... ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dXsL:
+1

pinch-to-zoom makes my screen unneccessary dirty :D lol :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Tigrouzen:
Test it before !!!

Because its to mucth faster from previous Opera 10 and mutch faster and smoother opera 9.7version and flash integrated then when you double clic on video you can see it on full screen too.

Its realy faster launch and surf!!

Just multitouch zoom need !!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Shasarak:
You'll notice it completely recomposes the zoomed-out page every time you change the zoom level, though. This couldn't be done in real time.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Shasarak:
No, I mean what I said, not something completely different that you just made up. :rolleyes: The Opera guys have decided that the way zooming is going to work in this release is that it will support only two zoom levels, not smooth-zooming. Unless they change their minds, adding pinch-to-zoom would be pointless.

As for it being "about improvements", I agree: what more evidence do you need that the Opera people think the zooming in version 10 is an improvement on version 9.7? I don't agree with them, but that's clearly what they think.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pkchips:
Perhaps I've misunderstood you, but Opera 9.7 recomposes the page in the same way, with a very small time delay, whenever you pinch-to-zoom in.

Whenever I change the zoom level in opera 10, the speed at which it reflows the text is still pretty snappy. The only difference is that there is no reflowing of text between normal zoom and zoomed in - its all already been reflowed. Reflowing happens when the zoom level is altered in the settings section. Perhaps this is a performance improvement change for slower phones.

What you mention may be a reason not to implement pinch-to-zoom in slower phones, but the HD2 is perfectly capable of reflowing text in almost real time.

Of course, perhaps I misunderstood you. In which case, please feel free to clarify.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] fards:
this isn't a HD2 specific version, HTC havent paid opera to implement it, ergo pinch2zoom isn't going to be included like the paid for by htc version
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Tigrouzen:
Im not agree with you cause all news phone mobile include multitouch hardware

Its not depending HTC but just Opera integrat it on program to works with news technologie like's google maps.

Maybe im faulse ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] loomx:
Wierd it doesnt refresh the whole page on mine, it just readjusts the text, just like it doesn in 9.7
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Beefheart:
I didn't 'make it up', it's what you said. Or, perhaps more accurately, what you effectively said by replying to my posts in the manner you did. Maybe you hadn't read them properly.

Of course they have decided that is how it's going to work in this release, that's stating the obvious. But my point was that pinch to zoom will be added sooner rather than later, most likely when more hardware comes along with the facilities to support it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Amirul0608:
I've got the pinch to zoom to work using BSB Tweak.

however youtube still doesn't work for me. im getting the same error message i got with the previous opera: xml parsing failed reparse document as html. I've noticed everyone I google youtube or type in the address bar i only get the mobile version. not sure if that is connected. anyone know how i can get rid of this error message? many thanks. i have the latest version of .net framework and latest official rom 1.66 via hspl installed from a locked t mobile phone
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Sin13:
i really dont like Opera 10, ok so it allows flash to work but without the multi zoom (pinch zoom) i find either i cant read the page or i have to do it a few words at a time. Im still using the older version to actually use the net, i thought updates were suppose to be better
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] barty22:
That is for opera 9.7, not opera 10...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kdenilson:
I find that opera 10 does not support multitouch and not so convenience. so i uninstall it.

however when i use back my default opera 9.7 .multitouch disappears as well. oh my god how can i make it back?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] scaryprowler:
Packaged version here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5618575&postcount=1458

-No prompts to make it the default browser or launch

-This makes it possible to use during UC/XDAUC/Sashimi without a custom mort script

-Default Browser is set to Opera 10

-Rotation is enabled by default

-Flash Lite is included in the package (all credit to JuggaloX)

-File associations are set to Opera 10 for HTM, HTML, MHT, MHTML, WGT, WML, WMLC

Props to mike2037
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Amirul0608:
sorry I meant bsb tweaks.just done it again to double check
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dongster:
Hi all,

I've been trying out this Opera 10 Beta 3 and would like to share my thoughts / experience:

I like:

the multi-tabs start screen

the very finger-friendly icons

swift switching between tabs

very good for simultenous multi-webpage viewing

But, i wished i could have:

there is no Vibration when I clicked on the links (which exists in Opera 9.7)

and no option to identify as Desktop / Mobile

Flash not working in some pages: For instance, I go to soccernet homepage, there is a "Play" button for certain flash content like animation, but the flash video fails to play and i see an error message "You need the latest Flash Player to view this video"

Maybe I am missing some plug-ins or settings which could resolve the above-mentioned? Because if i could resolve the above, Opera 10 Beta 3 would almost surely be set as my default browser!

:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Starfury:
lol you're not a nobody, I know who you are ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Starfury:
I noticed a couple comments about Opera10 only supporting zoomed in or zoomed out... I haven't downloaded it to try it yet as 9.7 works for what I need but I did have a snoop around on Opera's website and found this which kind of implies there is support for multiple levels of zoom, although not sure how its implemented...

http://www.opera.com/mobile/features/#zoom

Zoom

Control default text size on Web sites. Depending on your mobile phone screen size, often text can be to small or too large to be viewed easily. Control the default zoom level from 60% to 200% directly in Opera Mobile 10.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] young blade:
maybe we should not forget that this is still a Beta version..:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Shasarak:
It's a third beta version; one would surely expect that to be almost indistinguishable from the final release, bar one or two fixed bugs.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kenkiller:
Nope...I don't think anyone should make that kind of assumption until the developers themselves remove the Beta tag.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] xenept:
Lol, you stalkin me man! Imma have to get a new ninja disguise.

The opera guys have mentioned that landscape mode will be sorted out in the next release of the beta. Although it's pretty easy to achieve this with BSB tweaks.

And a reminder that folks should also be posting stuff on the Opera site just so we can encourage them to cater for the HD2! If anything, they should at least leave the 9.7 stuff that worked well in the Opera 10!

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=102
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Catatonic Conundrum:
Just installed 10 beta 3, coming from 9.7 I think its a great improvement! bar the multi-touch, but with one touch zoom all is forgiven.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Amirul0608:
you got my hopes up there! as soon as I saw file association html and flash lite included I thought yes my queries been answered.

no such luck, still getting the same error message. uninstalled and gone back to opera 9.7 and the standalone youtube app.

oh why oh why won't anyone answer my query? I thought you were all pro's?

thanks anyway
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] donalgodon:
I'm with you on that, because...frankly... multi-touch looks cool, but I don't use it, and I wouldn't, even if it were possible to do so, because two fingers is more work than using one. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] wardh:
I can live without multi-touch but it should have text reflow. Pages look horrible when zoomed out.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] karaern:
opera 10 is just great. faster and smooth+some plugins and the best is that have bookmark sync working !:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] d3l1:
works good but for me these are missing:

- text reflow

- pinch to zoom

- auto rotation (can be tweaked)

- better userprefs (lot of bs settings and no neccessary to be found like setting the locale to german e.g. to be redirected to google.de, still looking for that)

what's not working:

- quick select doesn't get any preview pictures when adding my own sites

- flash integration is really beta :)

what's great:

- it's fast, altough with turbo there is some delay until the site is loaded but when it loads it's instant

- menu, settings, browing is really fast and fluid

- finally my site all work (e.g. lastpass, tvrage) where I couldn't even login with opera9.7
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] WhatThis:
Seeing as Opera Mobile 10 seems to be made from scratch I'm not at all sure if we should expect everything to work as it used to. Maybe in a future version?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] xenept:
Ah didn't realise it was made from scratch. Might let them off but I'd still like the features in 10!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kperi:
I installed the Opera 10 beta 3 and it is ok on my HD2,but i have one problem.

When i add new bookmark from the Opera menu,this new bookmark not appear in the manila bookmark tab.

Is there a solution for this??????

Thanks a lot.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rumpleforeskin:
you need to change the "spoof user agent" setting within opera so that it is no longer identified as device that is not compatible.

this can be changed by opening opera and going to "opera:config" in the adress bar

chane the spoof user agent to "2" instead of "1" and it should fox your problem
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Amirul0608:
hi thanks for that.I can get on youtube now, however yet another problem with this version now.if I have it installed with the tweak above my start menu goes funny, if I scroll up and down all the icons go blurry leaving some kind of visual residue.its kind of reminiscent of my laptop if I have too many programs open and the laptops slowing down. the blurriness of my icons go away as son as I uninstall this latest version of opera
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] deliduran62:
No landscape mode

I just uninstallede opera 10 because there is no landscape mode or a good flashplayer. The flashplayer keept stopping the video and the quality is bad for a wvga screen.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] stephen2529:
how do you set it as your defult browser
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] arturobandini:
The more I use it the more I feel this Opera 10 beta 3 is not good.:mad: Too many bugs, too slow...

Unfortunately if I uninstall it, Internet Explorer becomes my default browser in the Internet Tab (even if I ask opera 9 to be my default browser) :confused: Does anybody know how to do?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] wstern111:
One great Bug is when i want use the keypad and i must write upper case letters he shows me on the keypad that i have activate upper case, but he write in lower case.

At the mosts passwords or other programs they want case sensetive letters / entries.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] EFCAugure:
Hi there,

is there somebody else to have the same problem as me :

-HTC HD2 WM6.5

-when trying to edit address in address textbox, i always have context menu for copy/paste but i can not enter textbox editing.

-no problem with the search textbox next to address textbox. And editing in the page is correct.

Thx for help

Lionel
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morpheus1982:
HTC are the ones that made the pinch-to-zoom work as proof of concept for a capactive WM device! Not Opera.

EDIT: Or maybe HTC paid Opera, either way, that feature is HD2 specific for the build shipped with the phone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Yellax:
I tried it but its far from ready,

i like the interface and it's nice and fast, but flash still does not work, and when i want to play a flash move on a dutch site i am getting a error.

so still using 9.7 but when the people at opra finish the cons on 10. then it will be a very browser
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] TeGG:
my cam does not work while opera beta 3 is in memory. If i cancel it (taskmanager) the cam works ...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Sultan1993:
Maybe "Zoomer" can help us to pinch-to-zoom in Opera 10 beta 3?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] xenept:
Guys, you need to be logging these issues on the opera forum or they will never be picked up. Otherwise we'll enter a recursive session of moaning with the next beta release!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] wstern111:
Can anybody tells me where i can become / download the version 9.7, i can find only version 9.6.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Kalavere:
Thanks for the tip, I went there and logged my complaints! I can't get on without a G sensor or pinch-pull zooming. I'd also like to see an iPhone style text selection, the 9.7 and 10 betas text selection just isn't good enough. :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] saziz77:
hey guys,

I upgraded my rom to the official 1.66 rom from htc website. after that I could not flash any cooked rom like miri or anything. is there a technical problem i couldn't understand ??

please help!

thanks.:confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wilcovh:
after flashing an official rom your HSPL is gone

re HSPL your phone

look in bootloader it should read

SPL-1.42.HSPL XE

look here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611433
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
If I flash my HD2 with an official ROM after using a cooked ROM it doesn't get rid of HSPL
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wilcovh:
the hspl guide says:

4) Uninstallation

Only way to remove the HSPL is to flash an original SPL from SD card.

- Take any "RUU_signed.nbh" from a ship ROM and copy it to SD card.

- Rename it to "leoimg.nbh"

- Reset the device while pressing the volume down button.

if an officialrom is flashed using the SDcard method hspl is gone.

check bootloader if the HSPL is still there. that is what i said above.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
I know that, I'm just replying to the post above it saying flashing a stock ROM gets rid of HSPL. I do all my updating via WMDC, SD card method doesn't work for me
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] saziz77:
I tried using the hspl back again but it says it only works if the bootloader screen says it is 1.42. the thing now is that the bootloader says 1.66 and thus the hspl that is posted in this forum is not working. any help ??

thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wilcovh:
your answer is in the first post here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611433
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] nahey:
hi!

i was wondering, if you have the moving background on your hd2 your not able to see the weather animation.. thats pitty

but it would be nice if the moving animation would be possible in the lockscreen? is that possibble?

and how!

thx

Nati
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] methree:
Indeed, an animated lock screen would be nice. Can't seem to find one through search...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] yaka:
[ROM][WWE,CHS,CHT,JP,KR,TH,RUS]Diamond2 M2.5_20121331 Full&Lite universal V03.03.YK

Diamond2 T5353 Windows mobile 6.5(5.2.21887) English ROM

Support Chinese,Japanese,Korea,Thai,Russian fonts,Full & liteVersion 03.03.YK

My other ROMs:Trinity WM6.1_20755 English ROM Support Chinese,Japanese,Korea,Thai,Russian fonts,Universal Lite Version 03.18.YK

Diamond WM6.5_21921 English ROM Support Chinese,Japanese,Korea,Thai,Russian fonts,Universal Ver 03.01.YK

It is a universal ROM for world wide language include English,Chinese,Japanese,Korea, Thai,

it also support Franch,German,Italian,Spanish,Cyrillic, Greek, Hebrew,Russian etc...

This ROM work with HTC T5353/5388 / HTC Touch Diamond2 / T-Mobile MDA Compact V / AT&T HTC Pure

SYS 21887

OEM,XIP base on Official ROM 2.53

Manila 2.5.20121331

ROM version 3.03.YK

Storage Memory 310M

Program Memory 181M

Pagepool 20M

Key Features:

1.Support World wide regional setting(default PRC)

2.Include CJK font

3.NetCF 3.5

4.Support CHI Pinyin and ENG alphabet mix search in contacts

Note :1. Please install inputs by yourself if you need CHS,CHT,JP,KR,TH,RUS input. Search from google.

I have made a list for all version ROM that made by myself.

Please download here.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] yaka:
Lite Version

1. PIM backup 2.8

2. WI-FI Router

3. TaskManager 2.1

4. Universal font

5. psShutXP

6. RealMedia support in WMP

Full version include

1. Skype 3.0

2. MSYH font

3. Callerloc CHS

4. Coreplayer 1.3.6

5. Rescoexplorer 2010.8

6. CyberonVoiceCommander=2_5_2 CHS

7. SPBWirelessMonitor 3.1
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] yaka:
ChangeLog

version 03.01.YK

1. Support World wide regional setting

2. Support English,Chinese,Japanese,Korea,Thai,Russion fonts etc.

3. Support CHI Pinyin and ENG alphabet mix search in contacts

4. Update NetCF to 3.5

5. Pagepool change to 16M

6. remove Autoupdate

7. remove Games

8. remove WelcomeCenter

9. remove Widgets

10. remove Twitter

11. Move Camera folder to \My documents

version 03.02.YK

1. Update Manila to 2.5.20121225 landscape

2. Update Phone Canvas

3. Update Pagepool to 18M

version 03.03.YK

1. Update Manila to 2.5.20121331

2. Update Pagepool to 20M

3. Change Message to classic

4. support in call record

5. Disable HTC shortcut
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Welcome new cook for Topaz.

I reserve some space for your ROMs on my mirror if it is ok for you.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] yaka:
sure,it'ok
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
Welcome yaka and thank you for sharing your ROMs.

Beetwen multilanguages settings in your ROM, have maybe some from east europa, maybe croatian or serbian ?

Please, if not problem, put some screenshots specific for your ROMs in thread.

Thank You again

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] sociojeje:
wow

this also looks good. I speak Korean and Japanese also read Chinese...

so tempting.. even Thai....

My question is... don't too many fonts in the phone make it slow?

That's what i heard. If it is not the case, I'll try this!

Appreciate your great work!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] yaka:
ChangeLog

version 03.02.YK

1. Update Manila to 2.5.20121225

2. Update Phone Canvas

3. Update Pagepool to 18M
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] :
This can't be right?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] taox:
let me try it!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] yaka:
version 03.03.YK

1. Update Manila to 2.5.20121331

2. Update Pagepool to 20M

3. Change Message to classic

4. support in call record
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] choijongs:
Mail Tab icon-----

it looks like your 3.02 3.03 roms have ploblem with left side of screen in mail tab(Manila) , icon looks having a problem(graphic)- doesnt fit-

thank you0-
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] :
htc diamonds 2 t5388+

works this rom with t 5388+?

have it italian?

tnks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
Some screenshots of ROM, please...

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] yorkcy:
yes,plz show some screenshots of ROM,

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] arlmsk:
screen shots

screen shots needed ^^, plz. interested with ur ROM
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] jlccarv:
yeh, that free RAM figure looks about 80-90MB too high. can anyone confirm?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] sociojeje:
just installed

and korean doesn't work. i only see square boxes. could you please fix it? Japanese and Chinese work well. But those are my second optional language and I usually speak English and Korean... Thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] yaka:
the lite version support korean.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] awdad:
works this rom with t 5388+ ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] 602peter:
many thanks!

the rom works very well on my topaz. it's still running fast even after i install lots of software, also it seldom has over 50% of RAM usage