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[HD2 General] lakeland:
Seen as there are no phones released for WP7 they had to use some sort of prop for the video!
[HD2 General] ephestione:
from the still of the video, I'd say it's either not an HD2 (you can guess only from camera lens and leds), or they went so far as to model it to look thicker and with "rounder" edges.

Still, the fact that they did so much to camouflage it being an HD2 (admitting it actually is), if nothing else, proves that they didn't want to give too many hopes about hd2 getting WM7,otherwise it would have been a good idea to take the most succesful WM device on the market right now and put it in a WM7 video...
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
Sure, but I have no doubt that WM7 will be running on the HD2 soon after release (if not before.) It uses a newer version of the Windows CE core, so it isn't that inconceivable that it will find its way to the HD2, one way or another. Not sure what all the fuss is about, really. After seeing the videos, the interface is not that great. It is better than 6.5, but Microsoft has NEVER been known for its design strength or esthetic sense. Sure, the guy who was a designer for Nike is responsible for it, but how much do tennis shoes and cellular phone UI's have in common?

I hate the fact that MS has decided to take the position that they have with regard to the UI, but if history shows us anything, this "limit" will mean nothing. Any barrier they put up will eventually be crossed by someone.

I still think that Sense is the best mobile UI experience, and I really like it on the HD2. Microsoft has publicly stated that they will continue development on WM 6.5, so I hope that it gets updated, along with Sense, to preserve what is special about the HD2 user experience. It's just cool, and it does everything I needed my phone to do... even more so with custom ROMs.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Looks like an iPhone to me :p
[HD2 General] Gustopher:
A mocked up photo no more means an upgrade for the HD2 than a mocked up photo of a car on the moon means that it is capable of space flight!

Leaks aside, I can't see HTC rushing to provide an upgrade for a device that will be nudging a year old come the time WM7 hits the market. It's rather more likely that MS are teeing up device manufacturers for the next generation of phones. Any link to the HD2, even tenuous ones like the phone in the video, may be because the HD2 is one of very few devices capable of running their alpha/proof of concept.

As to whether I actually want the upgrade...looks OK-ish but seems to be moving too far towards the 'I won't like it if it's too hard and needs me to think for myself' brigade of Apple-loving iWhingers for my tastes. Of course this is all still essentially speculation.
[HD2 General] webjunky:
lucky we got htc sence because the OS 7 interface looks ugly
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
if wm7 doesnot support other ui ,then all the years of development done by htc untill reaching htc sense 2.5 will be threw to rubbish as all future htc phones will not have htc sense , may be hd2 is the last device to use sense 2.5 in htc windows product line ,
[HD2 General] lakeland:
there is always potential for windows 6.7 upgrade for future devices :p
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
There actually will be concurrent and continued development of WM 6.5, per Microsoft's direct statements, and Sense UI will continue to be used in other platforms, most notably, Android, so Sense is safe for the foreseeable future. I don't think HTC will scrap it, nor should they do so.

I love the Sense UI, and I wish that MS would adopt it as the stock UI in WM7, but they never asked me. :)

Seriously, can you imagine how it could be improved if it wasn't just a skin, but actually a part of the OS itself?
[HD2 General] de Wolfe:
Sorry, but the Xperia X1 has been also in WM6.5-promos and it has never got an update...
[HD2 General] aceo07:
I found that odd as well. Nike? What's that got to do with user interfaces??

WP7 just barely works during some of the video presentations I've seen today. In a couple of the videos, the presenter had to go back to the home panel a few times and try again or just continue on to the next feature.

It might be December before it comes out and then most of you guys will be lusting after the HD3.
[HD2 General] Stilts:
Isn't HTC going to have a press event tomorrow at MWC? Maybe someone will ask a question on whether or not the HD2 will receive an upgrade to WP7?
[HD2 General] ylloree:
HD2 Running WP7

I hope we can have this OS soon...

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13395
[HD2 General] youmeus:
This looks fake to me...
[HD2 General] ylloree:
I just hope it's not fake... :)
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
looks quite legit to me...
[HD2 General] thug_life_inc:
Looks really fake to me too :)

Here is how Windows Mobile 7 looks like (officially) and is yet to come to HD2 (hopefully):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBOFIbAddcY
[HD2 General] hnparedes:
Didn't get the differences!

Looks real and I hope it's real :D
[HD2 General] brandi:
The dutch site, that published this said it was real and used it too!

they said it was really smooth!

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...raait-op-de-htc-hd2/&sl=nl&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

Read in English if you like ;)
[HD2 General] dcarr622:
HD2 seen running Windows Phone 7

http://pocketnow.com/software-1/htc-hd2-seen-running-windows-phone-7-very-very-good-news

I definitely hope that HTC offers an official update as the OS is clearly compatible with this phone. Apparently it also runs existing apps such as TomTom that are 6.5 compatible.

If HTC doesn't push an official update, does anyone think it would be possible to load it on aftermarket? Any thoughts/news/ideas on how the WP7 installation process will work?
[HD2 General] gavinfabl:
its definitely not fake. v7 needs a lot less resource, has better code.
[HD2 General] gianton:
i think it won't be long to see cooked roms with wp7.
[HD2 General] mightymn:
what if this ROM leaks? say e.g. in a month! rather than holiday 2010! :cool:
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
Do they have Dutch named networks in Barcelona?

Looks like a fake to me.

Nice idea though... :D
[HD2 General] Pappagallo:
Can't see why it is fake.

The picture shows the same type of interface as the youtube video, there's just some other items showed like XBOX Live etc.

What I do see in the picture that it's a HD2 somewhere in the Netherlands as it's running on T-Mobile NL :D

So get this ROM uploaded here :D
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
Well, they claim it was spotted/tested at MWC in Barcelona.

I don´t know if you get T-Mob NL reception down there in Spain.
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
That´s a nice idea... :D

However, I am wondering if you really get T-Mob NL reception in Barcelona, Spain.
[HD2 General] erdoke:
Mabe it can show the home network only. When roaming I have Home NW/Host NW sign on my Leo as well.
[HD2 General] tictac0566:
Interesting, didn´t know this. While traveling in Europe, my HD2 always shows the network I was using, eg. A1 in Austria, T-Mob in Germany. It did not show my "home" network.

Anyway...
[HD2 General] rovex:
WP7 spotted on an HD2

Take a look here. Good news for us?

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13395#comments
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
about the 10th time today its been posted...lol
[HD2 General] appelflap:
In my opinion, this is fake. How can the author say that there aren't any sms problems? I mean, how long has he/she played with it? And why would one pay attention to such a thing when covering a whole new OS.

By the way, this site isn't a real news site. It never has any news of it's own. It only reports what other sides and fora already has published. Not that it is a bad site.

I appreciate the joke though.
[HD2 General] KB24@CL:
I rather have my OFFICIAL XannyTech rom with wm7:D
[HD2 General] whf2000hk:
that's really a good news though !
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
It's proven to be a likely fake - if they're in Barcelona, Spain how do they have T-Mobile NL reception?
[HD2 General] Archer:
Hahaha - sorry mate, but excellent use of ambiguity... "It's proven to be a likely fake". lol
[HD2 General] Mikulec:
wow, this is the 1000th post about the same thing, some people should chill out a little bit. Can some mod merge this thread with the others? Pretty please.
[HD2 General] tonycosta:
sweet. At least this suggests we will get to try wm7 on our hd2's
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
yeah, doesn't make sense does it!! brain not really working...

take 2:

"it's been suggested that this is a fake - if they're in Barcelona, Spain how do they have T-Mobile NL reception?"

better? lol!!!
[HD2 General] Tigrouzen:
Its just a picture making with some program like's photshopo to easy !!
[HD2 General] Archer:
Much better lol.

Anyway, 60% of the time it works every time ;)
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
gotta love Sex Panther
[HD2 General] Robrecht:
The official Windows Phone Twitter channel says:

"to everyone asking about HD2 & Windows Phone 7 Series; nothing announced yet but there may be info coming next month"

Sounds promising to me!

(http://twitter.com/windowsphone)
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
suppose that's about as concrete as we'll get!
[HD2 General] hyellow:
Let's hope this dude already has an HD2 running WP7, in the Netherlands. in other words, he might be just in Holland and have acces to wp7 in holland. i did not see any mentioning he was in Barcalona, or maybe i just over read it.

In any case... i'd stick with sense, it's being more productive for me.
[HD2 General] hyellow:
what if the guy has acces to a WP7 Rom and he has installed it onto his device, while he is just in the Netherlands? What if he is not even near barcelona a 1600km. That would explain why his network info displays the right information. but then again... it might be just a fake, a good fake, that is. A way to generate more hits on the website?
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
a HAHAHAHA

So if I mock up a WP7 picture and display it in fullscreen on my HD2 does that constitute proof that it exists?
[HD2 General] Moandal:
The "Pictures" tile is labelled "Foto's" and you think it's real???

What a bunch of suckers.
[HD2 General] CbsTau:
Detailed Window Phone 7 demo

The official HTC Twitter feed yesterday pointed to this link for a detailed live demo of Windows 7 (22 minutes). It is really worth the watch.

http://ow.ly/17DbC

What this means for current HD2 owners - I guess this means the end to Sense ???
[HD2 General] OrionBG:
Who said this is a WWE ROM ???
[HD2 General] Tanmay®:
the fact that they are not denying proves they are working on it or the least they are thinking about it. I guess we should try to keep showing our keen interest for WP7 on HD2 and show them that we really need it.
[HD2 General] Dr.Sid:
Why would not it be possible ? They have to test it on something. HD2 is one of the best current WM devices.

Anyway it does not prove there will be official upgrade.

Actually I'm not even sure I would want it.
[HD2 General] Oberoth:
i think this is not a fake, because SUCH an image of WP7 was never taken...

It is NOT a Photoshop fake because it is too perfect for that...

There never was a NL-Version showed on MWC...

... So maybe it is a real ROM with WP7 from an Microsoft or HTC worker...
[HD2 General] Broekhuijsen:
What is wrong with the pictures tile being called foto's?

My Nokia N82 allways shows my dutch operator and then the roaming network here in Portugal. That the current HD2 does not doe that means nothing. That is just a matter of software preference.

Ofcourse then still it is not said to be real. In a couple of months we know the answer I guess.

Btw, the article nowhere states that the picture has been taken in spain.
[HD2 General] _ads_:
I for one won't be using WM7 on my HD2. It's closer to the iPhone in terms of user experience with applications. The whole reason I ditched my iPhone was for the robust multitasking capabilities of a Windows Mobile based phone. To me it seems like absolute bull and although you can change the colours of the 'live tiles' it's still very bland looking. Gimme HTC SENSE any day.
[HD2 General] hyellow:
i realise now, it may be fake for real. Iy you look at the image, and especially the arrow in the circle on the top right. Check the space between the tile and the edge of the phone. there is too much space between it. Now look at any original wp7 pics or video's, you'll notice that the space the arrow is floating in is much narrower. just my 2cts
[HD2 General] Oberoth:
it may be another build of the OS...

so that doesnt see anything...

... on the nl page where the photos were taken from he says that nothing of the zune functions are working, but these functions were shown on MWC...

So maybe this is an earlier build...
[HD2 General] pack21:
I dont care the Picture.....i just want to know, whats the point of HTC, for WM7 update in HD2...YES or NO, just that!

If not, maybe i can have good time to sell my HD2, without problems....and wait for a WM7 device ou another SO if surprise me.
[HD2 General] Moandal:
OMG! In what language exactly would "Foto's" be the correct spelling and use of an apostrophe? But hey, don't let me shatter your little fantasy.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
It's correct Dutch spelling and use of the apostrophe. Looks awful, but it's correct.
[HD2 General] Oberoth:
In Dutch it is Foto's...
[HD2 General] Moandal:
I totally agree - WP7S just looks so dull. I think MS have underestimated how important good looks are in the mobile phone market.
[HD2 General] geekyhawkes:
FOr me the only reason i would run windows 7 would be for better kernel support of the snapdrogon processor. THat way we might get a more snappy device, but no way i would upgrade if i couldnt get sense running over the top, but its a personal thing. Im glad MS has made a bold jump, fortune favours the brave and its nice to hear about something other than the damn oversided iphone (ipad).
[HD2 General] Moandal:
Damn! I'm wrong! (checked via www.dutchgrammar.com)

Apologies. *scoffs humble pie*

I still reckon it's a fake though, but my % confidence has dropped. And the fact that WP7S is so dull just means I don't care if I can't get an upgrade on my HD2, so that's got to be a good thing. :)
[HD2 General] Spike15:
I've been reading/watching everything about WP7S that I can find, because I really like the UI etc., but two things that are really important to me aren't documented:

- File system support

- Multi-tasking support

Do we have either of these confirmed either way? Will we have a file explorer? Can we use it has a USB mass storage device? Can we run more than one app at once?
[HD2 General] AFW:
Of course WP7 runs on the HD2 - what do you think the developers at Microsoft have been using and testing their code on? The HD2 is HTC's premier hardware, and there must be dozens with WP7 at "Corp" in Redmond. This is more than obvious.

Whether there will be an official HTC release for the HD2 is an entirely different matter. Judging from past experience, I doubt it very much. HTC will want us to get the HD3. Has it ever been different (WM6 on TyTN2 aside)? Of course not.
[Off-topic] Danny-B:
:rolleyes:Hi. I was just thinking if it was only me who is not bothered what so ever what Jordan (Katie Price) is up to nowadays. She is all over the papers.... and for what?

Maybe it should be taken to the vote to get her sent to some far away land where people might give a crap about who or what she is climbing into bed with this week.

No offence to Peter Andre but I think it all went down hill for him just after the single with Bubbler Ranks charted!

:confused:
[Off-topic] Fallen Spartan:
If you want my honest opinion on her I think she's an ugly cow obsessed with herself who spends little or no time with her kids and only cares about herself.

I have no time for her and cannot undertand why everyone else has!! Breasts are to big, her lips are massive (fish lips), she looks like an umpa lumpa.

I feel sorry for her kids as its all about her her her.

Maybe came across as a little strong, but world would be a better place if they just ignored her!!

JM2C's
[Off-topic] Andy@Contacta:
Hey now, don't be insulting umpa lumpas.
[Off-topic] Fallen Spartan:
True....must apologize to all umpa lumpa's....sorry :o
[Off-topic] stylez:
I'm just surprised this thread hasn't had far more reply's lol

Totally agree with Fallen Spartan ;)

There are a lot of beautiful women in this world and she's just not one of them, talk about being in a delusional state she must be to even think that she's got the looks.

Falling/tree/branches think you get the rest? :D

And i also feel sorry for the children and what the media spotlight has done to them.
[Off-topic] farukb:
there aren't many replies since people don't care for her hehe
[HD2 General] kinsago:
Resposted due to server issues
[Nexus One General] EErez:
Ever since I got the nexus one in mid January I have noticed dust build up between the screen and the frame on the left side, and its really annoying . Am I the only one with this 1 mm gap? Is this replaceable under warrenty?
[Nexus One General] ztm.000:
Dude. Search next time. This has been covered in multiple threads.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] redcannon:
Windows has already released phones with winmo 7 (the TG02 from toshiba?). My HTC touch pro 2 is still running winmo 6.1! When is sprint going to provide the update to 6.5, which by now is already outdated?

Is anyone else frustrated by this? Hasn't the hacking community already built up a 6.5 rom for the touch pro 2? Why can't sprint get with the program?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] burtonsnow8:
"The touchscreen interface should be slicker on the TG02, not just because of the improved touchscreen, but also because the TG02 runs the Windows 6.5.3 operating system, rather than the Windows 6.5 operating system."

http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/02/toshiba-unveils-tg02-and-k01-mobile-phones-203779

Windows Phone 7 will be coming out late 2010, if at all this year.

If you really want windows 6.5 just use one of the cooked roms, they will probably be more suited towards your needs anyways.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] coolwater22:
im fustrated

:mad: i don't know why sprint hasn't got 6.5 already, like you said other companies have 6.5 and even windows 7.. im frustrated and willing to upgrade with a custom rom someone made, but i just dont want to because that might ruin my warranty..i think lol..
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] burtonsnow8:
technically it does...I waited for vzw 6.5 to see if it was any good...was less responsive than the original stock rom, so I tried mighty mikes and am really enjoying it.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] redcannon:
EDIT: i tried giving the link for the Winmo 7 phone that I got my info from. Just google "engadget windows 7 hands on" and you'll find what I was referring to. I would post a link but I need to be verified first.

I got this new TP2 because of my original TP warranty (it was freezing so Sprint gave me a TP2 for FREE).

So I want to keep up this warranty so I can keep my total equipment protection and replace this one when it gets old.

But sprint is saying 6.5 will have all of these cool new personalization features that are specific for the TP2.

the suspense is killing me! Winmo 6.1 is such a drag...

Also, can these 6.5 ROMS have the new features that sprint is talking about for this phone?

Oh, and also I just want to say I LOVE THIS PHONE
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] burtonsnow8:
Most likely one of the builds will have it. Check out the ppc forums for a consolidated CDMA app forum:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] redcannon:
I appreciate the link but "flashing" a rom is, to me, a dark and mysterious process that I do not understand. Also, i cannot lose my warranty, it is the ticket to my next pocket pc.

I guess I just have to be patient...but I've been using windows for years so I'm used to that
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] burtonsnow8:
Honestly at first I was a little apprehensive because I had seen mention of bricking your phone. It is super easy though once you get into it. Just take the time to read the stickies and follow the steps. I haven't had to take my phone in for warranty yet though so I'm not sure how it will turn out in that aspect. If you are worried don't do it. A phone that works is better than paperweight.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Podgym:
I'm not sure if this has been asked before, and if it has please forgive me, but are there any apps that can replicate, or resemble Palm Pres Card style multitasking? Is there a limitation with the Android Platform that means it couldnt work? Jailbroken iphones have this functionality too, and it seems like with the open nature of the Android Platform we should be able to have.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] kendong2:
that would need an app that runs other apps "windowed"... i don't think that is gonna happen. opposing the iphone android already has true multitasking out of the box, just get a task manager if you need one.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] mifran:
please explain how this multitasking on the hero works as when i am one app it has to be closed before i can open another app

mifran
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] G8D:
If programmed to do so the app you close will remain open and working in the background. Then you can re open it and you will be where you were when you closed it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] booon:
You could just use the built in multitasking. Hold Down The home button until the little window pops up.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Waza_Be:
Have you ever tried TaskOS? It just do what you want ;)

I'll post recent screenshots but at the beginning, the app was like that:

Now it has a lot of customization features.

I am not able to develop the screenshot now, it show only the icon. I strongly believe that i wiill be able to implement the screen capture feature soon...!

Report me any bug/suggestion/remark.

Features:

Launch it with a long press on search button ( camera button will come for devices without search button)

1) See all running app in an endless horizontal scroll

2) icons ( not screenshots) are displayed like palm pre

3) kill an app by dragging it to the top of the screen

4) Drag down an app to ignore it

5) icons ( not screenshots) are displayed like palm pre

6) icon size / space beetween icon fully customizable

7) Graphic png fully customizable

look in the preferences for all features
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Podgym:
Thanks for that App, I like it alot. One minor aesthetic thing I wouldn't mind seeing in future versions is kinetic scrolling, although that's really not important. Good luck implementing screenshots, too!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] peterc10:
That list just shows the last 6 programmes you have used so you can shortcut to them. It does not necessarily mean they will be running in the background.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] derekwilkinson:
Multitasking on the Pre is the best multitasking there is. Hands down. If someone made a "cards" application for android it would sell a ton...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
Windows Phone 7 Series ... phone ... will NOT be released on the same time for the whole world.

Meaning, it will be first released in the United States .... Just like Zune :(

Meaning, for the rest of the world, we will have to wait longer (3 months? 6 months? 1 year? more?) ...

To anyone who is attending MWC ... Can you ask this to Microsoft? Or gather any info link to an answer / confirmation? ...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Fantastica:
Microsoft said Christmas 2010. They released WinMo 6.5, a minor release, everywhere worldwide in October 2009. There's no reeason to think they wouldn't release this major new 7 version worldwide.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] anaadoul:
Yep, plus this is not something you get on CD or DVD, you get it on your phone so they release it to all manafactureres at once. it's up to the manafacturer to sell @ this location or not :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] denco7:
HTC releases all their new phones to the world first and six months later we get them here in the US,

It is only right when a US company releases something " we " should get it first for a change :D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Fdo35:
I don't know, but I do remember an HTC rep saying that. That would be weird though, because HTC almost always releases their new phones in every country but the US first (very, very annoying).