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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Sense is "eye candy", but for my world it is senseLESS ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikey717:
In all honesty, I am torn. I really have not given a non-manila build a chance because I have really liked the GUI for manila.

I will say that I am eagerly anticipating a non HTC messaging manila build, because that seems to be 85% of the problems that I really have.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
The "Device Name" has changed both time I have plugged into the laptop and have synched. It renamed itself to "HTC81" the first time. I just checked the name now from a sync a couple of days ago and the Device Name was "HTC38". the numbers have never been the same ... but it's been changing after each sync. Kind of a pain in the ass having to do this after every sync as I charge my phone this way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Any thoughts on titanium changes as I move forward with the no manila line?

Ill consider it. Be after I get a stable 23xxx build though.

Heres a ittle info on similar probs Kahibi ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venelar:
Not really. All i've done on the manila build was actually remove some stuff. Searched and found out how to get the cpictures pane to show my htc album directory and just some subtle tweaks. rethemed it throughout.

It's really nice. As much as i like sense (huge fan) i like my phone to have some serious uptime more. I hated having to restart periodically through the day to keep memory low. I got the titanium as "prettied" up as a could so hopefully i wont be tempted back to a sense rom.

Thanks again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Did somebody say party?

ooh! a party? Can I come? My *replacement* Tilt 2 is "out for delivery" as I type this. This will be the 1st Tilt 2 ROM I flash. It feels good to be back :D.

This seems to be a common sentiment with Sense 2.5 ROMs. I'm glad to see you're going to try cooking without it. There are actually a couple of mods that allow you to easily exclude the HTC Messaging Client (the one I've been using exclusively with my Fuze/TP ROMs, & it works fine on my wife's PURE ROM too): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6031646#post6031646

Of course, you need to include ArcSoft MMS for MMS to work, and HTC Connection Setup seems to do a better job of setting up the network connection than ADC, and then you don't get all the lag in Messaging. kimi_sae_ireba has also produced a Messaging Mod similar to amarullz's, and it supports WVGA resolution. Hope this info helps, and I can't wait to have the RRE Series ROM running on my Tilt 2!! :D

EDIT: My phone has arrived!! Time to get flashing!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kinggofg:
Trying the latest no manila. ATT. Wiped with task 29.

Haven't falshed in a while, but was getting tired of a few issues I was having on my older rom and wanted to see if a new rom fixed. So far this ROM looks really nice.

I will do some more searching to see if I can find fixes, but if someone is feeling nice and wants to point me in the right direction that would also be appreciated, here are my issues:

1. On initial load of the rom the phone just starts buzzzing non-stop. A soft reset and it hasn't done it again.

2. When trying to use IE it says it can't connect unless I am already connected for something else.

3. Messaging (email) is realy really slow. It has frozen a few times.

4. It keeps notifying me I have unread email. I only want it to tell me when I get a new message (since I only read about 10% of my mail). This is probably a setting?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
Throwback! It's a party now :D.

This is definitely true. I had all kinds of goofy problems on the Fuze ROM that just went away when I replaced HTC Messaging with Amarullz mod. I tried to convert it to WVGA once, but broke the crap out of it. Had no idea about these other two though, that's awesome.

You picked a good time to come over. Arupp's latest no manilla build is FAST.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Kewl!

Thanks for the heads up on the device name change. Next time I'm at it, I'll toss the underscore. Dang, who'da thunk it? Stoopid Vista!

Anyone know how to get the original 'black' background wallpaper back after selecting something else? There used to be a question pop up asking if you wanted to use the default wallpaper. That seemed to have disappeared a couple of versions ago ... at least on my phone. I know you can select pictures now and not just the delivered wallpapers.

So thinking outside the box like I do, I just left the phone laying on the desk and took a picture. What do you know ... it was black. I used that one, so problem solved. I just wondered if there was something missing in my flash.

Phone's been running smoothly since the re-flash over the weekend. I still take it slow in and around messaging, so I may try the mods in the previous posts. All-in-all ... excellent!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Does anyone know if the titanium weather program has been updated lately?

Best I can find is June of 09.

Other than any updated apps, I like titanium the way it is. Clean & FAST!

Haven't had one issue with messaging with the no manila version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Uploading now. I think I have combined everything into one version. XIP should be solid now, hopefully tell me works, etc.....

Im updating first page while it uploads.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] khtims:
I'll be doing the d/l in a bit! I'll let you know how tellme is doing... crossing fingers... Thank you for your quick turn around on fixing those issues!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
thanx arupt i will test and see wha i notice. hope fam doesnt do another surprise visit.:rolleyes: thanx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jola66:
I had some issues with the first version but thought id give this one a try. Right off the bat, it feels smoother and more stable. Hopefully thatll hold up.

Couple things though minor. Phone was in Airplane mode after I flashed. NOt a big deal but never seen that happen before.

And like the first build, I get the "Voice mail is not configured. Please enter your voicemail number and dial again:" when I get a new Voicemail. I dont know the number to voicemail, it was always set up automatically with any phone ive had. But I can check it if I dial my own number. Ill have to do some looking to find the real voicemail number.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
Barely into it and already seeing and improvement. I didn't have any of the UC problems with this one that the last one did. Looks like changing the XIP back is going to make a big difference. Great work as always :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
mine wasnt in airplane mode. did you wait for the customization to end before you started using the phone???

usually it is your own number but dont forget the area code
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
Where's the Settings icon in Start Menu?

Hi, Chef,

I just flashed the new build. Where's the Settings icon in the Start Menu? I can't do any configuration without access to settings. Thanks.

Edit: Sorry. Did a search in the forum and got the registry value to un-hide the icon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
its right there its in the bottom with the IPhonish icon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jola66:
Yeah that works. For some reason, I always thought it was some other dedicated number.

One other minor thing to the Chef. Is there any chance you could put the newest version of MS My Phone on the next build? I am not sure how often MS updates MS My Phone but I dont think itd be too often. Every time I flash and run the app, you have to install the update and the restart the phone. This has been going on for over a month now, probably much longer, and I have a feeling we just keep recycling the same version rather than getting the updated one built in. Obviously this isnt a big deal but itd be nice to have that up to date.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Starting in airplane mode is not uncommon or anything to worry about. I get it about every 10 flashes or so. Its just how the autorun ends. It dosent get a chance to turn on cprog every once in awhile.

Something is not right my settings icon was where it always is ;)

Its because its a different phone canvas. Your better off using you own number since you dont get charged minutes. If you use the carrier number they charge you minutes to call VM ;)

Ill add myphone to the to do for next go around ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
this one seems faster hopefully more stable as well.

only one thing so far

has any one tried to play a song with music tab. when i try it only pays for about 40 secs then the song stops ive tried a lot of songs and same thing happens any one else.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
I think were at a point to start digging in for some real tweaks and graphics upgrades at this point. Ill hunt donw the new myphone package. I know I saw it somewhere. Im also hunting for some blue highlights to add to manila. Overall im 24hrs in and very pleased with this version so far.

Im sure you all will break something by morning and rain on my parade ;)

Anyone get a chance to try tellme yet? Interested to see if I fixed it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] khtims:
I am downloading now... prob won't flash until morning but I will know if tellme works very early tomorrow morning!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
K post and PM me so I can read it from my mobile at work ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] candyalex82:
Colored Icons

Is there a cab file for the colorful icons at the top of the screen?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
OK, I've played with the new ROM for couple of hours. No phone/SMS test yet, just set the phone up the way I like it. I found the following:

The ROM boots very slow. Well, maybe I should say Sense starts very slow. It takes about more than a minute from power up to getting stable Sense display. I hard reset again and it didn't improve.

I have Chinese IME with different input methods. I can't switch SIP to any of them. Switching between different English SIP is fine.

Would love to have 16 shortcuts at the Home tab. As mentioned before, your 20-shortcut cab distorted my background picture. I need to search for a working one.

As mentioned before, I need to change HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\HideSettings from 1 to 0 to make the Settings folder visible in Start Menu.

Somehow after the flash, my battery dropped from 95% to 19% after all auto-run customization is done including a hard reset in between. It was only about no more than 20mins use. I'll charge it up tonight to make sure it's not some odd problem

Other than these, it seems to be a great ROM. If I can at least resolve the SIP problem, I think I can stay with this ROM for a while. Thanks for another great job, Chef.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mr_zero:
1. It need abit time to boot up everything.

2. Yes, I can't change Chinese input (SIP) too.

4. Settings folder is there on mine as is.

5. Yes, but mine only drop while first boot (customization), back to normal battery level after 2nd reboot.

Just try play few whole songs no issue on mine.

my voicemail number there as is. (It happened on mine on the beta rom before, it ask for voicemail number.)

Over all, great rom so far.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Ive never seen a sense 2.5 rom boot fast. Newer ones boot even slower. I can make it fater but it cause other issues.

No clue what your talking about as far as IME. Someone please explain.

Im also looking for a working version that dosent break BG4all. Did you try the new BG4all.

My settings were fine

My battery is fine as well. Typically that is a graphics glitch and have seen in on multiple devices and OSs

All in all im guessing you have had a bad flash. I would highly recommend reflashing. Let me know if you still see it after a complete reflash. If your up for it flash stock and back. Id bet 90% of the issues will be gone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GeSpot:
White Bluetooth Icon?

For whatever reason, my bluetooth icon on the "taskbar" is white.

I noticed this when I loaded the first 2.5 preview ROM as well.

Any idea how to get the coloured icon back?

Other than that, I JUST flashed it, so I'll post any issues I run into.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dinky:
I have installed Chinese IME which includes different SIP for Chinese, say, different "keyboards" for Chinese. Even though they show up in the SIP selection drop down (or lift up?) menu, but I can't switch to them. Switching among different English SIP is fine. This always works fine with all your ROMs in the past including the Raphael ones.

This morning my phone was charged up over-night and the charge indicator LED turned green, but my battery indicator in taskbar is still showing 20%.

I will try to flash the stock then reflash your ROM again and report back. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
already had an interesting experience

Well I got the ROM flashed (I couldn't flash Hard SPL on my 7 machine, so I had to use my work XP laptop), but finally got it working. I see you're still using AutoRun for customization. Throwback appreciates that ;).

I had the oddest thing happen to me when setting up my Exchange server password - my device randomly soft reset on me. Now what's really weird about this is that my Fuze used to do the same thing, randomly, and I thought it was the phone - I have a feeling the COM5 ROMs have some weird issue with my Exchange security or something that's causing a conflict. But since the reset, it's been working fine.

EDIT: I really can't seem to get the hang of zooming in/out with this scroll bar. It does seem to be working, but not smoothly. I'm probably doing it wrong :rolleyes:.

EDIT 2: I noticed that in the Home Screen Tabs customization, there's no icon for the Facebook tab - this was actually corrected in meltwater's thread (I posted an EXT with the corrected files there). Not a big deal - just thought I'd mention it. I can post a fix CAB here for it, if you'd like, as well. I didn't realize the Documents tab was also included! Nice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
I actually found the zoom to be pretty useless after a while. The attached cab will change the function of the bar from zoom to scroll (up/down key presses). Since we don't have up/down keys on the front of the device, I found I use the bar a LOT more this way. Works great for quick scrolls through lists, though you might want to crack the cab open and change the values for number of presses per swipe. I think by default it's one press for a half swipe and two for a full.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venelar:
Taskbar icon question..

no matter which icon set i try to install, the data connection & signal bars icon never changes. it stays with the arrup defualt red icon. Any way to get around this?

edit: also the only bug i can find is related to rss hub. when going back up from an article to headlines, and from headlines to channels, the program freezes and has to be closed via task manager.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hdstreetglide:
No Manilla Dialer

Has anyone had the dialer on the no manilla version be come slow or unresponsive? Today I had it become very slow to dial when using a speed dial number and was very slow to end call. :confused: Plus it wouldn't save new number to contact list.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mam112663:
Time Changing

I have searched but not found this yet, so I apologize if it is a repeat.

I am traveling out of my time zone and the clock is not changing automatically.

I have gone to settings/personal/phone/GSM/UMTS Services and made sure that time synchronization/auto change time zone is checked, but still no change when I travel.

Am I missing something else?

Suggestions?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Wow glad to see you ;) Been running your fuze rom on the wifes phone for a while now ;)

Yeah so far the no messaging test versions are nice. I always include arcsoft even if you cant see it ;) I keep it hiding in there :p

The buzzing is a random thing. Youll see it from time to time on all tp2 roms.

Havent seen that with IE but usually use skyfire

Havent any trouble with messaging on no manila version

Thats a wm/titanium things. They feel you need to read all your email lol. I include the mark all read fro that reason.

Just go like your gonna change background and dont select one

Yeah there is a fix for the exchange thing somewhere. Its a reg key. Ill see if I can find it. It only matters if you use a secure password.

Zooming is useless on this device lol.

Yeah I caught the facebook Icon. I plan to fix next version.

I always include documents its just hidden by default.

Reader is also there via programs. I dont add it as a tab due to lag.

Im going to add the titanium weather shortcut somewhere in manila so we can have radar with our manila weather ;)

;) OK thats a reg setting pointing to gsm_rssi.dll Forget the exact key but I know its in resover. Delete the key to override. Ill post the exact key after work. Thats how I get 5 bars ;)

Ahhh someone finally finds the real bug on no manila. ;)

I left out a package. Youll have to do it manually till next version. I caught this 5 min after irst flash. Cant believe your the only one thats mentioned it lol. You win the cookie for the day.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
The RSS hub seems to share some dependencies with manila. Pretty sure I need to upgrade it. Ill get it rolling though.

Havent had any dialer issues so far. Ive actually been enjoying the lack of dialer issues lately lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
One thing I have noticed on the no manila version is that ameba dosent seem to be repositioning all the menus properly. I know I fixed this with a reg key before but ill have to track down what the change was. Time to read xteps thread again lol..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikey717:
First warranty replacement for Tilt2

So I finally broke the bloody thing :rolleyes:

After flashing to 6.3, I started getting a voicemail notification when there was no voicemail at all. The only thing that would eliminate the notification was to call, leave a voicemail, and then call back, listen to it and delete. Unfortunately, this only works until you have to soft reset for anything (in my case changing batteries... I travel alot, and have 7 batteries for the phone because sometimes it is just not convenient to plug it in). Once I soft reset, the notification comes right back.

Tried a number of different things, including hard resets, Task29, flash to stock, calling AT&T tech support (a joke) and HTC. Final solution was a warranty replacement. Oh well. Should be here today so that I can get back to it. Just happy that I am not leaving town again (blissfully) until the 4th!

Anyone else see this happen, just out of curiosity? I have my solution coming via fedex today, so not worried about it. I remember it happening with my Kaiser a few years ago, but then the fix was a new sim card. Unfortunately the sim card is not the problem here as AT&T sent and wiped out notifications through their systems and the sim functioned perfectly in placing and removing the notification.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venelar:
facebook (app) issue.

every time i soft reset the phone i have to re-enter my facebook login info & accept the terms/agreement.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DavisGentry:
senseless

Ok - is there a place to look for setting up the no sense manila? In particular I want to add shortcuts, clock, and weather on the home screen

Thanks,

Davis
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
interesting.

Use windows default in the home settings ;) Youll be set

@ Mikey

ATT can reset you remotely. Whoever you talked to is a moron. They can make the notification disappear from their end. Another things that will sometimes wipe it is to go into phone settings and reset voicemail.

FYI task 29 dosent overwrite the radio. With voicemail and such most of the time RIL is going to be involved. Your going to have to flash the radio too ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Sorry for the lack of attention. Been rather sick this week. Getting back to work now ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikey717:
@ Mikey

ATT can reset you remotely. Whoever you talked to is a moron. They can make the notification disappear from their end. Another things that will sometimes wipe it is to go into phone settings and reset voicemail.

FYI task 29 dosent overwrite the radio. With voicemail and such most of the time RIL is going to be involved. Your going to have to flash the radio too ;)[/QUOTE]

I found that out the hard way. Got the new phone and had same problem. Called back up and told them from my experience the problem was in one of two places, their voicemail system or the SIM card. Asked the first level rep to delete my voicemail entirely and then re-provision it. That did the trick in 20 minutes. I guess the bottom line is that I received a brand new phone in the box out of it. They told me I was going to get a reconditioned one, but the one that arrived was brand new in the box with another battery and all the goodies. They must have run out of reconditioned at this time. Since all they are expecting back is the bare handset, this gives me a spare charger, another spare batter, a spare back cover and so forth.

I guess in the end their stupidity worked to my advantage.:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ugoff:
Hi. I just started using the No Manila version of 23569 and I'm liking it, but I have a preference that I'm trying to implement but I've come to an impass. I like the HTC volume control, so I uninstalled the RRE Remove HTC Volume cab. I found, after a restart, the color volume icon in the taskbar had been replaced with the default white one. I'd like to keep that color volume icon and use the HTC volume control.

Is there an easy way to do this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Easy way no lol. The dll needs edited for that graphic. Ive been intending to do that but I need to reinstall photoshop which im dreading.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ugoff:
If you can tell me which dll and where, I can do that for you. I have photoshop installed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Youll need one of the following. Restorator, PE Explorer, or Reshacker to replace the graphic in the dll. The one inside htcvolumecontrol.dll is the one that needs edited.

I cant remember which dll has the original color graphic in it. Its shellres I think.

Im planning to reinstall photoshop tonight. I might be able to move the graphic after im done :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Speakerphone issue

Hopefully this isn't just me, but when I have the Speakerphone enabled during a call, the other party cannot hear me at all. When I turn it off, the other party can hear me fine. Anyone else seen this issue, or can you check & see if you do?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
I have seen it before but not in the last few versions. I dig around and see if I can find a reason. Could you give me a list of installs and changes?