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[Nexus One General] anthro:
It's right. The battle is just hardware. The Desire ROM runs on Nexus One http://android.modaco.com/content/g...sire-rom-on-the-nexus-one-my-findings-so-far/
[Nexus One General] neva dinova:
Isnt it possible that a different split could change the data partition enough to fit the rom on the nexus
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
anyone pulled flash 10.1 from it yet ?
[Nexus One General] dnanj:
According to the article, the N1's Broadcom chip also has FM transmit & receive capabilities.
[Nexus One General] derbyjozef:
Well I found the main differrence is regarding to those keypad.Well the memory is also considerable..As per my thoughts I prefer Nexus one..All latest features.Well All of those functionality and software are work so nicely with android..Please share your thoughts for it.Thank you so much in advance for your support and suggestions...
[Nexus One General] DMaverick50:
I'm under the impression its either "ready" for 10.1 or else currently has an older version. I don't remember which but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have flash 10.1 which a couple weeks ago adobe said still needed a lot of work. Hopefully I'm wrong but that's software so I apologize

Also, desire has more ram but will it also not use it properly like tithe nexus? After having a g1 and mytouch 3g I was super pumped about all of the n1's ram but it doesnt even use it...
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
There is currently a RAM hack that allows rooted N1 users to use more of their RAM - I also believe there is a 10mb RAM hack for G1 users to allow them to use 10 more mbs of RAM, but in turn lowers 3D processing.

If you've been reading around, you'd know that on the Desire ROM for the N1 that Flash 10.1 is working perfectly.
[Nexus One General] mikeybags:
How about the screen? I know one major complaint by some about the nexus is the fact that it's only "dual-touch" compatible. Does the Desire use the same screen?
[Nexus One General] colonel:
????

its a capacitance screen with multi-touch
[Nexus One General] paratox:
i think the desire will have the same touch screen as N1.
[Nexus One General] mrbkkt1:
after coming from the xperia.... I can say, that an optical trackpad is better than a trackball.
[Nexus One General] Nipje:
Naah i preffer a trackball, + i want the trackball colors :D

I currently have a hero, but i think i'm going for the Nexus One instead of the desire.

The ram is the only thing that could make me change my mind, but i doupt if the desire even uses the extra ram it has ... dont think so.
[Nexus One General] JTHM:
Folks

Did I hear a viscous rumour that the N1 could only run 1 app at a time a la iPhone? ...it was prior to launch mind.
[Nexus One General] SBS_:
I just ran the browser, a snes emulator, got a call and had an email app up at the same time, with easy switching between them, so that's a retarted rumour.
[Nexus One General] grainysand:
Are you serious?

Android multi-tasks like a champ.
[Nexus One General] JTHM:
It was just a rumour and I'm pleased to read that that's all it was. So I've just pre-ordered my Desire from Clove.

Thanks!
[Nexus One General] coolbho3000:
Please be aware that the Desire will probably lack the fastboot oem unlock command (Google insisted that the command be available on their device, but they have no control over the Desire), so unless HTC decides to be extra generous, a root exploit would be needed.
[Nexus One General] t0pgun:
Any info on if the Desire's GUI has GPU acceleration enabled? Thats the one thing i miss with N1 coming from iphone.
[Nexus One General] coolbho3000:
AOSP 2.1 is more GPU bound than previous versions of Android and I expect FroYo and beyond to be even more GPU bound.
[Nexus One General] t0pgun:
Ok does that mean that we can expect similar GUI UI improvements (smoother transitions, less "choppiness") to N1 with Kernel 2.6.32 ?
[Nexus One General] jp_macaroni:
Not digging the Desire design at all. Heres one example....

Look at the wasted space.
[Nexus One General] coolbho3000:
I'm talking versions of Android, not kernels. Different kernel versions have relatively little to do with how userspace applications perform.
[Nexus One General] t0pgun:
Sorry i wasn't clear. Since FROYO comes with 2.6.32 kernel, could N1 be upgraded to Froyo then?
[Nexus One General] fuzzmo:
It's funny - they are more or less the same phone - minor differences in truth. I'd be happy with either but in the end it will probably be the HTC Desire purely because Orange is gonna carry itin March and therefore I can get my upgrade. If the Nexus One came out on Orange instead then I would get that.

Given the wizards at XDA - I am pretty confident that I could have a Nexus One, or HTC Desire ROM on either device if I so desired....
[Nexus One General] :
both really phones, they look like they are related for sure haha
[Nexus One General] Mafian:
I'm pretty sure since HTC made the nexus for google, they are going to alter the design a little to remarket it and add a little bit more to it..as motorola did to their cliq..they added a flash and removed the keyboard...money making strategies...sneaky
[Nexus One General] rb_darryl:
Visually I think the Nexus One has the Desire beat in the looks dept. hands down. Overall the Desire to me seems like a overkilled version of the Hero but the only thing that is holding my interest at the moment is the Sense UI... which will be on the Nexus given time either from a Google update or a dev making it possible
[Nexus One General] rb_darryl:
I think you read something backwards... Androids are the s#!t at multitasking the iPhone on the other hand can only run one app at a time... you'd think Steve Jobbs would be paying attention...
[Nexus One General] Android Touch:
The Nexus One is expected to get more ram soon.
[Nexus One General] anthro:
Cool finding. it doesn't just show waste of space (actually, to be fair, the "wasted" space is beside N1's trackball), it also shows that the buttons are farther from the screeen. I don't know how much it affects usability, though
[Nexus One General] ericc191:
In my opinion, the N1 looks better. I like the look of the optical trackball, though.
[Nexus One General] anthro:
More RAM? How? HTC's going to open up the Nexus One and tweak the hardware?
[Nexus One General] t0pgun:
More RAM is always nice but i'm not a big fan of sense ui. Beside that what i would like to see in N1 is full flash support and the FroYo version of Android.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
I think the Nexus looks better and I like the look of the optical trackball light (especially with differnt colors :)
[Nexus One General] anthro:
For my taste, Nexus One looks way cooler especially the front speaker. HTC Desire's front speaker looks like Bugs Bunny's teeth
[Nexus One General] DMaverick50:
Wow glad to hear that about flash. A couple weeks ago a new video came out (which I found on engadget/giz/phandroid I don't remember which because I was 'reading around') and adobe showed off what thy had but said it would be a while before it was ready. Every other time adobe said "we're close" they would then say the exact same thing months later so I don't know what the deal was with that video it seemed legit. Maybe they just meant nexus version still needed a lot of work...
[Nexus One General] Android Touch:
Google said that there's gonna be a update to free up more ram.
[Nexus One General] anthro:
Ohh. Have a smaller footprint. OK cool
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
But the max is still 512mb, no?:confused: from the current 190mb to 512mb?
[Nexus One General] anthro:
According to http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/02/18/can-htc-desire-outgun-google-nexus-one/ ,

You agree with it? If so, is it a software thing?
[Nexus One General] acabbie:
not bothered about senseui, like the idea of flash and an FM transimtter to allow me to tune my N1 into the car radio and stream music directly without using the Aux/3.5mm jack sounds great.
[Nexus One General] Nipje:
The desire doesn't look bad, but the nexus one looks better imo. Its cool that the desire has some more ram tho :O, but i'm not sure if you will even notice that.. Did they add more ram for the new sense ui? or whats the reason :O
[Nexus One General] anthro:
They'd add as much as possible. As long as it's feasible, there's no reason not to do it. Actually, the difference between N1 and Desire aren't impressive considering the amount of time between their releases. In tech, three months is a lot of time. By the time the Desire comes out, imagine the other options in the market. It's just like Nexus One but released later.
[Nexus One General] Nipje:
Do you think the extra ram is noticeable? When you look at the speed of the device etc.
[Nexus One General] anthro:
You're asking what the reason behind is. I say, if they can put more RAM, is it logical to put less?
[Nexus One General] Nipje:
I know, it was just my next question :(
[Nexus One General] JTHM:
Being from an engineering design background I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the delay was down to managing resources in this time of austerity + a bit of commercial wrangling thrown in.

Google probably put a fair bit of money HTC's way to design and develop the N1 and they will have wanted a bit of time to recoup some of that money and build the Google Phone brand before an established player launches the exact same device (or better) for the same (or cheaper) money. HTC would have been happy to slow the development time of the Desire to come off the back of the development of the N1 and be able to use that time to spread the validation and productionisation time, and hence the development cost, of the Desire. HTC are also probably learning through the Tech Support of the N1 what they can put straight in the Desire before its launch and head off some the issues they might have seen if they'd launched simultaneously.
[Nexus One General] timeu:
I really have a hard time choosing between Desire and N1.

Both have aspects I like:

I prefer the design of the N1 (softtouch buttons give it a nice look) but on the other hand I have heard that the physical buttons are better than the softtouch ones.

The 2 microphones and the noise reduction are really nice features of the N1 (although probably the other end of the line will benefit from it ;-)). This makes it also more future proof (voice recognition).

Desire has more Ram (I don't know how much this will affect performance if they both run vanilla 2.1).

BTW is it possible to install vanilla android 2.1 on the Desire and update to new android version like the N1? Because I don't want to depend on HTC to release new android versions. If that is not possible with the Desire I would definately go for the N1. But if it is possible to install vanilla 2.1 on the Desire and install new versions of android then my decision will only depends on pricing and availability of either device.
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
No, actually, they are going to have a similar footprint but they don't currently use all of the RAM on the N1 so about 100 to 150MB of the 512 it came with is just wasted.

The problem is due to a limitation of the current kernel and how much max RAM it can support. A future kernel has support to use all of it.

Cyanogen has also backported all of the necessary code to the existing kernel to open up this unused RAM in his version of the OS, but we're still waiting on a future OTA from Google to get the same support in the stock OS.
[Nexus One General] t0pgun:
What about the amoled screen. Do they use identical capacitive sensor (clearpad2000) and same digitizer?
[Nexus One General] nellyspageli:
more ram takes up more battery.
[Nexus One General] t0pgun:
must be minimal. so far releasing more ram through himem hack or as of the latest .32 kernel hasn't drawn any more battery.
[Nexus One General] anthro:
N1 and Desire share ROMs. Desire's ROM is ported to the N1 now that it's not even out yet. Desire devs will probably port N1 ROMs, too.

I like the 2 microphones also because of Google translate and voice search. We need audio accuracy there.

I prefer the N1 mainly because of the look. I think, Desire would be great for countries where it will be officially sold because of support and availability of accessories.
[Nexus One General] vegetaleb:
What about speakers?

Is it true the Nexus 1 doesn't have a rear speaker while the Desire has one???
[Nexus One General] anthro:
Desire doesn't have a noise-cancelling mic. That thing you heard is about the Nexus One having two mics and the Desire only having one.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Ringwraith_Nr9:
Hey there,

I always listen to music on my HTC TD (xda version O2).

But after some time it just corupts my mp3's and i can't listen to them anymore.

I always have to newly sync them onto my device.

furthermore, sometimes even directly after a complete new sync some files are instantly corrupted (yes, they work on my pc and after 2 or 3 syncs they work O.o)

as i said:

device: xda diamond (htc td)

os: wm 6.1 <- i had the problem with o2 version and now, with the 2.03 htc version also

is that a known problem? i couldn't find anything with the help of the seach function.

can you help me please? i need my dayli portion of music ;)

edit:

just discovered 2 more things:

1. it doesn't help just copying, instead of syncing the mp3's

2. the corruption especially occurs, when i save some mp3's in a playlist
[Nexus One Android Development] mrandroid:
So flash was already demo'd on the nexus one which means there has to be a way of installing it. Now you can download the Flash 10.1 for Linux on their site. and it has included 2 files. 1 is "flashplayer-install" and the other is "libflashplayer.so".

Can we push libflashplayer.so onto the phone and it'll pickup the library or is it more complicated than this... What can we do to make this work?
[Nexus One Android Development] FettsVett:
Its much more complicated than that, there are optimizations that they've done to even make it fast enough to use on a phone, plus the plug-in has to be compiled for the architecture on the phone (ARM) I do wish we could get a leak of the alpha plug-in though.
[Nexus One Android Development] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
Ya, I think the only way this is happening is if someone leaks the version we've all been seeing. There's gotta be a leaky faucet somewhere.
[Nexus One Android Development] aniteshj:
We might not need to wait, the Desire (Nexus One minus the Google) has 10.1 Flash baked in...

Beyond me but it could be possible to, along with the Sense UI and whatever else is new and applicable, to port over Flash 10.1 if Google doesn't release it before then.
[Nexus One Android Development] MvP77:
According to engadgdet the htc desire they demo'd had flash 10.1 so maybe when that rom leaks.
[Nexus One Android Development] king_dani:
just a quick question : say the Flash 10.1 is released officially , in what form will it come?

an over the air update from google for OS? or just android Market app to be installed?

any ideas?

will it affect browser in any way?
[Nexus One Android Development] snakebitezz:
OTA

something like this will have to be an os update because the browser will need to be able to access this lib/plugin along with other apps IMO unless someone can further my knowledge and tell me otherwise
[Nexus One Android Development] kylez64:
I always thought flash would come as an upddate (perhaps 2.2 Froyo?)
[Nexus One Android Development] AC!D:
as i've read, flash is already available for developers.

asking google....
[Nexus One Android Development] ~~Tito~~:
Maybe it will be a OTA or it will come along with 2.2 as kyle said. Then again we will have it quicker once someone has a Desire rom leak.
[Nexus One Android Development] flak0:
I have some files I am going to post, which may help.
[Nexus One Android Development] tontonHD:
That would be great :D
[Nexus One Android Development] jamesyb0i:
Flash has been on Sense UI as early as the HTC Magic & Hero and when my youtube app stopped playing videos I resorted to playing them in the browser with flash, how come HTC seem to have no problem releasing it? Flash 10.1 must be a lot faster
[Nexus One Android Development] ~~Tito~~:
HTC leans its devices more to the media oriented. :cool:
[Nexus One Android Development] shaggy-h:
There's a little bit of info from Adobe in this thread:

URL: forums.adobe.com/thread/550281?tstart=0

(sorry, as a new user I can't post real external URLs yet!)
[Nexus One Android Development] blunden:
That was Flash Lite. The upcoming Flash 10.1 is the full version.
[Nexus One Android Development] N3xt2N0N3:
Hope you can post them soon
[Nexus One Android Development] mrandroid:
can someone grab FLASH from the desire rom and figure out how to make it work on CM5.0.2?
[Nexus One Android Development] southeastbeast:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=635821

I posted screenshots of flash (Hulu focused) in the apps section. Wasn't sure where to put it... If this place is more relevant then we can just delete my other post (if there are any mods reading =))

Here is the recap:

So I can get Hulu web page to start, and it says "loading" the video but it gets an error message.

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Is anyone more informed of why? I know flash != shockwave, not sure if that is the issue. Or is the browser telling Hulu what kind of browser it is. I know that is spoofable. The last thing I can think of some sort of cache issue with the browser? In the settings the max I can set it is 6mb so maybe Hulu won't stream it. If we can get Hulu working on our N1's it would be a huge win. =)
[Nexus One Android Development] rheza02:
guys, i just playing farmville on nexus one.

its works

for 1 minute before get yellow sign, not enough RAM.

hahahha
[Nexus One Android Development] Paul22000:
Did you try setting browser User Agent to Desktop?

Or try Dolphin?
[Nexus One Android Development] rheza02:
FarmVille on Nexus One VIDEO

http://yit.me/g7753p
[Nexus One Android Development] Paul22000:
iPhone users just sh@t their pants
[Nexus One Android Development] Gimpeh:
Now just imagine playing that Civilization game on our Nexus when it hits facebook. Drool!
[Nexus One Android Development] PISSANDVINEGAR:
I second that.
[Nexus One Android Development] flak0:
Grab Flash Here, I posted a new thread. I will extract it from the desire ROM and post an update. The files I posted were from a source who wants to remain anonymous.
[Nexus One Android Development] rheza02:
Moodstream On Nexus One Video,

http://yit.me/32pdkc
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dracoaffectus:
I've been having this problem for over a week, basically every time I leave my phone on the charger overnight, I wake up to a frozen phone. This is a big problem because the alarm doesn't go off, and the phone doesn't ring when I get a call so I end up missing calls. The battery DOES recharge to 100% though.

I first experienced this problem with KingKlick's HTC Espresso ROM v1.3, I then switched to KingKlick's AOSP 2.1 v1.5, and finally to OpenEclair v1.2.1. I've experienced this problem with all of these ROMs, so I'm guessing my problem is ROM independent.

I know the first thing people are gonna say is "full wipe and reflash", but I've done that many times over the last week, I've even unrooted and re-rooted my phone, and yet I still have this problem.

What do you guys think?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] matm:
This might be a bit of a noob question.

I bought a TP2 yesterday and have HardSPL'd and flashed with 6.5.3 Build 28014, but I'd like to keep all the default OEM packages that were in the original ROM.

I dumped the factory ROM before I flashed, so now I'm just hoping to find a way to basically "merge" the default OEM packages from HTC in to my new 28014 ROM.

Can anyone offer any advice on how I'd go about doing this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Marneus Calgar:
Very simple, replace SYS and Xip from your dumped official ROM with files from from 28014 WM build. Easy as can be ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] matm:
Thanks for that reply.

Just to make sure I understand correctly, will this work?

1) Flash my device with a clean build of 28014

2) Dump the Part01.raw and Part02.raw files from the device

3) Follow the process at (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=560519) using the dumped files and an official HTC Rhodium ROM

4) Flashing that ROM to the device

So effectively a combination of Part01.raw and Part02.raw from a 28014 build merged with an official HTC Rhodium 6.5 ROM.

Am I making sense?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Marneus Calgar:
Arghhh, I don't know that kitchen but it appears that this is correct. I know to do this but with Ervius Kitchen.
[Networking] Soikiro:
hi, i have a htc pro 1 vodafone UK but now i use it in italy with vodafone and the signal is instable...like, in a gallery is full...in a restourant is NO signal, when i muve it...lost signal, if i take down for a sew second it serch and find network...

is problem of radio? radio rom? ROM? vodafone? i can test in anymode?

thx
[Networking] Soikiro:
bump... for my problem!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] griffin911:
Does anyone know how to change/edit the registry to change the ereader program from B&N to the mobipocket reader?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Xandegar:
Free eReader Site

I found the following site to download free ebooks from...

http://www.epubbooks.com/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Xandegar:
Registry Change for storing the books on the SD Card

Having quickly compiled a long list of books, I thought to moved them to my SD card and changed the registry valves accordingly...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\EReader]

Changing the default values by prefixing them with \Storage Card\My Documents\ does the trick... Of course don't forget to move the folders accross to your SD...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Xandegar:
Changing the above registry should do the trick, as it just points to the application... You might need to change the OEM\Build_Order entry in HLM as well, not sure...
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] LatinSilEighty:
I havent posted in a minute but i found a .gif that i would love to break down and make a boot animation, i wasnt sure if maybe someone knew of a program that broke .gif's down into individual images? or if maybe someone wanted to take this on

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~dga/...stuff/cylinder_combustion_cycle_animation.gif
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] drater:
thats quite good i like it, heres a zip full of pngs from that animation, hope its what you meant.

http://www.mediafire.com/?gr5olzkrrya

heres my bootanimations..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=623960