yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shaokang:
Yep me too. Although i'm gonna ditch my TP 2 as soon as I get confirmation of WM7 running on the hd2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] e_dogg:
I saw somewhere that Windows Phone 7 will require a 1ghz processor. The HD2 has that and the Touch Pro 2 doesn't.

If someone does get Windows Phone 7 ported over, it's likely going to run a little slowly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vader165:
don't forget mandatory 4 point multitouch... that might be a problem for full functionality.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] theguy0075:
I seem to remember the guy who introduced WM7 (WPS7) saying something about the 7 series being slated for all manner of new phones including those with and without keyboards (I think he made reference to phones similar to BBs with keyboards on the face of the phones)...So unless the price of processors comes down significantly I really don't think every new phone running this 7 series OS will meet such demanding base requirements (1GHz processor, capacitive multitouch screens etc., etc.).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TheAgent1982:
YES!

Touch Pro Series The Best Option HTC have!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khtims:
according to several websites like: http://www.redmondpie.com/htc-hd2-to-get-windows-mobile-7-upgrade-9140128/ the HD2 will get windows mobile 7. but TP2 will most likely be up to the devs here at the XDA if they can do it. My feelings are that if they can get android going on TP2 (so far so good) then they can do windows mobile 7.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ark666:
In my opinion, our devices are transition devices, most of us are waiting/hoping for a TP3 better than HD2, or at least with similar specifications as the HD2.

TP2 runs WP7, but it reminds me of my old Artemis with WM65 and TF2D, :).

We´ll see it coming soon.

Cheers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Will_nonya:
i have a blue angel runnign wm 6.5 so anything is possible especially if there is enough interest.

I understand why the move makes sense for MS but personally from what I've seen of WM7 I'm in no hurry for it to get here. Now if i could get my TP2 with a 1ghz cpu i might look at it but until the smart guys here at XDA figure out how to get past WM7's limitations i'm not in any rush to give up what I have.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
It might be able to run it, but Microsoft and HTC aren't going to release anything needed to make an unofficial port happen. Sorry, but it's extremely likely that the TP2 is not going to get WM7, officially or otherwise.

And to everyone who always cites the example of Windows Mobile 6.5 running on an old device, I hate to break it to you but it's not that easy when dealing with WM7. Windows Mobile 7 is based off the Windows CE 6.0 kernel, while Windows Mobile 5 and 6.x are powered by the same CE 5.2 kernel, making a port of WM 6.x to a WM5 device pretty easy. It's much more difficult when you have a different kernel with from an OS that doesn't support most of your hardware, as it means someone has to create a BSP themselves.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LeShin:
No multi-tasking = No dice for me! It'd be like a downgrade! Loving my TP2 with Deep Shining Rom. I use my phone for a whole manner of things, usually business orientated. If I wanted the type of phone the Windows mobile 7 looks like it's gonna introduce, I would've bought an IPhone!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jdep1:
well hopefully something could be done to be ported at least like the android ported to our devices but not so thrill about it since windows mobile 7 didnt impress me as much as the touch experience that will be release soon..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Ut0p1a:
Windoes Phone 7 Series running on

So what do you think? Fake?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] TigerUSA:
Windows Mobile(aka Windows Phone) 7 should be a better 6.5 + wipe out the competition

Windows Mobile already wins over the rest of the competition for us hackers that can get it to work right and fix it's problems.

I think it is a ridiculous attempt to compete with Android. Windows Mobile has it's own strengths. And Windows Mobile can easily be done up, even in it's current form to compete with Android and Iphone handily. We need to keep a fully backwards compatible windows mobile 7 and fix all the errors in basic things like email. Make things work from the top to the bottom and then add in support for new hardware whilst still having fully featured functionality for older hardware at least throw models like the Touch Pro 2. I mean android works on the old HTC Touch even through version 2.1. You don't need physical buttons you can simply add software buttons for devices that don't have the physical buttons at least for touch-screen devices.a
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dweezy108:
I dont believe that we will be able to use it on Touch pro 2. the pic that he showed is clearly photoshoped.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Dangerously:
6.5 is running CE OS 5.x... CE 5 was used back when (or even before) WM5 was released. So the core has remained the same for several WM versions now. *correct me if I'm wrong* 6.5 has the same features as the old WM5, with only minor changes to the interface and added capacitative screen support (and starting with WM6, WVGA resolutions were added). So any device running WM5 can run 6.5 in theory. When talking about 7 Series, it is a completely different animal. Ark has hinted that it is doable on TP2 but the overall experience will be very sluggish.

Will it actually run on the Touch Pro 2/Tilt2? My answer to that question will be to wait for a working version to be leaked or released. What was demoed and written so far can change when we can get our hands on a working copy. No one can say YES or NO unless they are a Microsoft developer or someone who has a copy and can analyze the drivers and screen functions for compatibility.

I am NOT saying it is not possible, just saying it is too early to tell!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Dangerously:
It could be a theme someone made for their Diamond. I am sure it is not the real deal as I have not heard of 7 Series being leaked yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] afma_afma:
fakey fakeyyyy ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rajuabju:
For sure WM7 will be ABLE to run on TP2... maybe not officially, but the chef's here on XDA will get it done.

If Android can be put on TP2... no DOUBT WM7 can as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quarintus:
Yeah they probably can run it. But it won't be useable. Come on, did you see the anymations going on there? The TP2 already has a hard time running manila well. The core of windows 7 just needs a lot of system recources already.

I do not think it will run on the TP2. Not in a way that it will be useable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cyber weesje:
Yeah treu i have seen a vid on pocketnow saying the os needs a captive screen and snapdragon cpu even if the manage to make it work gone be resource hog and drain your battery like crazy
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] OndraSter:
The animations aren't problem a bit, all we would have needed is fully capable driver of OpenGL ES :D.

The problem is to HAVE these drivers ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
No it will not, but not because of all the artificial rules like needing three buttons, but because it is a different Windows CE version and needs a new kernel (and HTC will not be releasing one)

Android is open source. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone are not. Take a look at the very first HTC handsets. Those never got a WM5 native kernel so they were never upgradeable past 2003. The Blue Angel never got an official WM5 ROM but MS was using it to develop WM5 and a test ROM with a WM5 kernel leaked. WM5 kernels are compatible all the way up to 6.5.3 and that is why it has all the latest WM releases. The people here at XDA can not work magic. If a TP2 WP7 NK is never released, it will never be upgradeable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] berrywr:
Keep in mind future HTC smartphone releases like the HTC Tera with it's 600 Mhz Snapdragon. It has the Touch Pro2's form factor. It's not Windows Phone 7 (the new vernacular) we Wing owners were told the same thing about Windows Mobile 6.5. That said WP7 is new code and written from scratch. It will be interesting as to how much of it can be integrated into the TP2s. We're all going to have to sit back and watch. No doubt it will drive down the price of the TP2s as they flood the market with the release of the HD2. I hope the chefs here will find a way to make WP7 work on the TP2; it cannot be stressed enough the level of excellence they do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] OndraSter:
You almost all compare it to WM6.1 vs 6.5 or 5vs6 or so. The difference here is - the kernel IS PARTIALLY CHANGED. In previous versions, there was still the same scenario when changing version. Not this time.

From what I remember from discussion about CE6 about half year ago, there is nothing like nk, it is splitted into 3 parts (now it are 3 parts too, but compiled to one file), but in the base, the rest of the drivers _should_ be almost the same.

But it's unconfirmed, it's what I heard half year ago in totally different discussion:D.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] afma_afma:
i hope your right about the drivers. because it will make things lot easier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Dangerously:
You are missing the key to Android and WM7 (which is officially renamed to 7 Series). The key is: Open Source!

Android is open source which makes it easy to port over to any device.

7 Series is not open source which makes it very hard to port over. This is why you do not see any version of Windows Mobile on a Google, Apple, or RIM branded device.

If it is true that existing programs cannot be installed on 7 Series, will we have to rewrite all drivers for the TP2?

Since we will not be able to see the source code, it will be a very long time before we see a fully working version (if any) on the TP2 if the drivers need to be rewritten.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KyuubiNaruto:
We'll see, when WM7 is released. It maybe will be able to run WM7, but there have to be some changes in the system of WM7 for it to run on TP2...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rajuabju:
I understand your point completely. Its why no one is running iPhone software on other phones too.

And while MS is saying that WM7 is a total rewrite, there still will be many similarities I'm sure. I think that in the end, it will be possible to WM7 on many of the existing phones. Just not very well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] OndraSter:
As we were talking on IRC...

They will be probably binary same or at least very same.

The problems will be controls (buttons, textboxes etc), so if the app uses their own controls, it might work. We must wait what will MS give to us, developers (since SDK will be sooner than phone itself).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xavalon:
if you look to this picture as seen on this site http://www.htc-hd2.com/nieuws/windows-mobile-7-draaiend-op-de-htc-hd2/ you notice the tomtom navigation icon. Tomtom works according to the website.

Not likely that tomtom has already developed a special version for WM7 (so long before release time). More likely that WM7 is backwards compatible enough to run tomtom 7 (which uses bluetooth for bluetooth GPS or internal GPS).

Also it is running WM7 on a HD2 in this picture. According to the text it is running WM7 fairly well and fast.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
That image was photoshopped. Do you believe everything you read online?

Just don't expect the TP2 to run WP7. Its just not going to happen. If it does you can be happy, but in all likelihood it is not going to happen.

If anything it is easier to port WM5+ (WinCE 5) to devices running 2003 (WinCE 4.2, HTC Wallaby). But guess what, that never happened. The source code is not available. The drivers are not compatible. It didn't happen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] emonster93:
noo :(

I really like my Tilt 2, i dont want to switch to another phone lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MattTC84:
Dude do you people read anything, they dont even think it can run on the hd2 anymore, and if you want it that bad go and buy a wm7 phone when it comes out, same with android, it is terrible on the tp2 so far and thats not to knock the developers it just is a pain in the a$$ to use period and I will bet you all we never have a fully functioning platform either. As i said you need a min of 1ghz processor and capacitive touch screen so no no wm7 on your tp2.:eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LocDogg:
I wouldn't want it to run on the Rhodium, it's slow already as it is :o I'm waiting for the TP3 and I'll get it, as always, 4-5 months before it's officially out :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DasTIsH:
i think you'll need tolong press a button to use the search:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fade2black101:
I just can't imagine a situation where it'll work properly. In which case, what's the point.

Like it's amazing how android has been ported over, but it's not usable as an everyday operating system.

Unfortunately will probably just have to wait and upgrade to a WP7 or Android device if you want to be able to use your phone properly without constant modding.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JBARNABY:
I think the HTC 7 pro would be a good upgrade from the HTC tp2. I haven't had a chance to do a lot of research on this, but I like the slideout keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cajunflavoredbob:
There's an entire thread that is currently discussing this. Follow the link.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] phazzy:
Not sure how to fix it. Before it happened, I was rooted with a Cyanogen rom on 1.6. I also had a black and green theme on. I went to install a new rom called "OpenEclair". I downloaded it, placed it in my sdcard root folder, and tried to install it. I had an installation error and it aborted. At this point, I figured ok, I'll just reboot. It kept me at the G1 screen for over 25 minutes, so I knew something was wrong. So no matter what I did from here on out (trying to perform a backup restoration, flash a different rom, etc), I would be stuck on the G1 screen. Finally, I flashed a JesusFreke rom and it let my phone come back on, so I haven't tried anything since. However, this rom is ANDROID 1.1. It sucks. Is there any way I can get back to either where I started, or even get this OpenEclair 2.1 rom working properly? Any help would be greatly appreciated. When I try to install the OpenEclair rom (before and after downgrade) it will say

E:Can't chown/mod /system/xbin/librank

*No such file or directory)

D:Failure at line 221:

set perm 0 0 06755 SYSTEM:xbin/librank

Installation aborted.

Press Home+Back to reboot
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] TheBogBrushZone:
I had this also. The problem went away after I installed DangerSPL which, as stated at the top of the OpenEclair thread, is required to install this on the G1.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] RoboPhred:
If you don't have DangerSPL, OpenEclair will fail to install as it doesn't have enough room to place its files.

However, if you do have it...

I have noticed this with some of the 2.1 ROMs. I think the reason is that, since we flash using an "updater", it wont wipe the partition before flashing. This leaves the possibility that there are old files with different permissions that prevent the new ROM from properly taking.

Boot your phone into fastboot (for the G1, hold the camera button while powering up), set it into usb mode (by the "back" button, I think), then use the fastboot tool to clear the boot and system partitions:

/fastboot wipe boot

/fastboot wipe system

This will clear the "ROM" component from the phone, and you can then go and flash whatever ROM you want. Make sure to wipe the data partition via recovery.

If, after wiping the ROM and rebooting, the phone is stuck at the carrier screen and says "Fastboot USB", that means it tried to boot the usual way and found no data in the boot partition. You need to boot into recovery and flash a ROM. Using "fastboot reboot" or the reboot command from the phone's fastboot screen will cause this. Use the phone's fastboot "power off" button ("menu" in the G1), then boot it into recovery.

Also remember that any install that fails after the "verification" phase will destroy the existing ROM, since you will be left with a partially installed ROM on top of the older one.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] phazzy:
Thanks a lot guys. will try all of this when I get off of work. Much appreciation!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] phazzy:
Got everything worked out. Just had to install that danger spl :]

Just flashed FastTest rom, pretty freakin' nice I must say!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] phazzy:
Is there a way to backup all my apps/contacts/texts before wiping and flashing a new rom?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Miky9:
Hi,

I have a problem with my vario, that i bought this week. It came with Tmobile CZ ROM With IPL SPL 2.21. I followed the tutorial and downgraded by flashing Button ROM. This flashing failed on 99%, so i downloaded XDA Mini S ROM which also failed on 85%... several times.

I think the problem is in bootloader, becouse when i turn Wizard on, Bootloader came on but after a 5 seconds in shuts down:( I thought that it is a battery problem, so i charged wizard over teh night(it was still in bootloader mode, i cant boot to Win CE :-( )

Today i tryed to flash wizard_love_ROM, I connected wizard to pc via usb, flashing started but after 3 minutes wizard shuted down and repeately rebooted. Flashing ended with error 302... Now I have IPL 1.05 and SPL 2.21

Can any1 help me to get my vario back to business? pls

thx for help,
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] brogunner:
Currently having some issues downloading some videos my wife sent me. First off, I am currently out of my country of origin so I've already had a few hurdles to jump over to even get the ability to download. But once that was taken care of I haven't had issues; until now.

My problem is mainly that since this morning, I haven't been able to download anything she's uploaded to hotfile.com for me. Each one of the three browsers I use have different issues. Skyfire automatically goes to File Download Complete and obviously the file won't open because its only 280b/43Mb. Opera 10 freezes loading on the /get stage. And IE just thinks the rerouted link doesn't exist.

One solution I've had is hooking my phone up to a laptop and running the Internet Sharing program. It works, however, I am not able to stay in the same location long enough to monitor it and make sure the internet connection doesn't drop. So more often then not when I get back to it the connection is reset and download interrupted.

I've tried connecting to both of the networks in my area, and same problem on both networks. Also, I had my wife verify the file is still there, and on her end she has no problem.

Any ideas? Much appreciated guys.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] etoy:
etoy Kitchen 2.4

(WM 6.1.21057 / Sense 2.5.2019)

Like the title says..finally here's the kitchen i've built to cook all of the roms above.

Now you can try to mess up by yourselves and try infinite combinations of packages.

Thanks to yozgatg for his Gen.Y kitchen,most of the little i've learnt is thanks to him.

The WM build is updated to the latest 6.1 existing build (21057) thanks to celoni for that.

HTC Sense 2.5.2019 is already included and up to date with all the latest updates/fixes.

Thanks to abrasive for the VGA port and thanks also to all the guys from the 2019 thread.

There's all the EXT packages i managed to extract (and often localize) from all the latest roms.

Sorry,only WWE (0409) and ITA (0410) are included, multi-language would've been too hard to do.

Precompiled 2.4 ROMs are already included,just choose "Load ROM" and you'll find both ITA/WWE!

A-versions are with enabled RSS Reader in home,B-versions aren't. Hope you enjoy it :)

DOWNLOAD:

etoy Kitchen 2.4 (Sense 2.5.2019)

(used for Eto.Y 2.4 ROMs)

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OLDER VERSIONS

etoy Kitchen 2.3 (Sense 2.5.2019)

(used for Eto.Y 2.3 ROMs)

etoy Kitchen 2.1 (Sense 2.5.2016)

(used for Eto.X/Eto.Y 2.1 ROMs)

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I hope you'll have fun with the kitchen,like i did till now.

Thanks for the support guys!

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P.S. i'm leaving my old signature here.. RIP ;)

htc touch diamond

eto.y 2.4 [sense 2019] - radio 1.17.25.09 - hard spl 1.93.olinex

rilphone 1.15.25.14 - my kitchen [wm6.1.21057/sense 2.5.2019]​
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] minuted74:
....... se i cambiamenti non son o importanti.....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] abejon:
grande etoy :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] etoy:
hey! anche qua :) provata?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] buwud:
Bravo

Minuted74, gli stai contando per caso?:D

Bravo Etoy e complimenti!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] minuted74:
non ho capito...:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] makpaolo:
un nuovo chef, bene!

mi scarico la rom e appena possibile la installo e la provo :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] zindo:
i agree with you....download and test it....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] etoy:
grazie mille per l'accoglienza :) i vostri consigli/commenti/critiche sono ben accetti!

la prossima versione probabilmente sarà su 2.5.2012 con supporto completo al landscape. lo sto già testando ma preferisco prima vedere prima come si comportano i cuochi più bravi come diamond lover,shark,etc.. c'è ancora un po' di roba da correggere prima di definirlo completo al 100% ;)

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thanks a lot for the greeting :) your advices/comments/criticals are welcome!

next version will probably be on 2.5.2012 with full landscape support. i'm already testing it but i first prefer to see what will the more skilled cookers like diamond lover,shark,etc..do. there's some stuff to correct before calling it 100% complete ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] minuted74:
ora sono in fermento con il leo.. tra beta tester e flash vari... ma non appena ho tempo, proverò la tua rom e ti farò sapere....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ndavidetnt:
in the screenshots I see it's italian. is it possible to have it in wwe?

However nice rom!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] etoy:
hometab's italian text translation added to first page

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ho aggiunto la traduzione in italiano del testo hometab in prima pagina

http://www.mediafire.com/?niznkzznmun

only ITA for now,let's see if people does like it..then i should think about a WWE edition too. btw thanks a lot ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ciubeca:
..si presenta bene ;) ma non trovo il link per la rom nel primo post. :o

...looks nice, but i can't find the rom link in the first post :o
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] maiors:
infatti ti avrei segnalato anche questo come small bug....

ce l'ho in prova da ieri sera e devo dire che non delude.

Ho modificato il pp a 16 MB e così si presenta molto reattiva, ma purtroppo non mi parte Opera. Forse dovrei formattare con MTTY e poi riflashare.

Inoltre in un caso il menù programmi in hometab è comparso vuoto ma dopo un soft reset si è risolto.

Proseguo con i test e ti inoltro una richiesta che ho già fatto qui nel forum ad altri cuochi italiano, cioè una rom Sense 2.1 o 2.5 basata su WM 6.5 com2 build 21xxx.cioè quella più simile all'ufficiale HTC.

Pensaci, magari non sono solo io a volerla.

Ciao e prosegui così

ENG

Very good rom. Some small bugs, probably due to flashing troubles.

Test ongoing and a kind request for a WM6.5 based rom.

Keep up your good work mate....