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[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Hi guys. This seems to be a nice friendly informative thread. I too WAS having the data disconnect on my phone.

I have the 1.66 sea wwe official rom. I tried every radio from the telstra radio to the new 2.08.50.08_2 radio. To tell you the truth I didnt notice anything different between any of the radios. So I really can't say if one is better than the other. But I started changing settings.

If you are in a 3G (H) 850 area I suggest this.

settings/Wireless controls/phone/band

for Network Type choose WCDMA

for Band Frequency choose the third setting. On Telstra rom it will be GSM(1900)+UMTS(850) and on any other rom it will be GSM(1900+850) and select done.

Now this should stop most of that switching you see in the taskbar of your phone. But this isnt actually what is causing the freezing. It has to do with your sms messaging I believe. I went 2 weeks resetting my phone twice a day. Then I went here.

settings/menu/all settings/connections/advanced network/sms service

Right now GSM is working for me. 4 days and no internet freezing. :D I believe your incoming email might be coming in by sms also. Notice you only get a few lines and have to download the rest using data to see the whole email.

Others on the forum have turned off email and their phones quit freezing. So if GSM doesnt work for you try GPRS and so on. This is only my opinion but I have been very happy for the last 4 days. Thanks for letting me share this info.

If anyone is interested I have made a cab file which is un-installable that will change the Band Frequency menu to the menu from the Telstra rom. It is mostly cosmetic but at least you will know what bands you are selecting. Use at your own risk of course. I have installed, tested, and uninstalled it myself. No issues.

For the last 4 days with these settings I only see 3G while phone is setting idle. As soon as I connect to the internet it switches to H. I am very happy with my phone now. Thanks matthewf01 for starting this thread. I should have came here sooner.
[HD2 General] mikron15:
Any of you T9193 owners have not enough white paint on the h/w buttons? When indoors and when the buttons get lit, it looks ugly and un-even light luminace with fingerprint smudge on one of my button (from inside the device i believe)...it looks like a kid was doing the job :s
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hi guys

i have a t9193 from australia telstra.i like to know is the dutty rom leo hg_v0.8_radio_2.07.50.2 comes with a manila version a rom version and a radio version together or separate? i want to install this dutty rom but not sure it will mess up the phone.thanks
[HD2 General] eppy1951:
Just a query from a newby. I have a Telstra Leo and I want to flash the rom to at least the 1.66 version but when I try to get it fron the HTC sight I get the message not compatible with your handset. what I wish to know is if I can still flash to this version or not ?????? HELP
[HD2 General] Element_01303:
An Intresting question I think....

Ok, so I am from California and currently living in the UK... So I have one of the T8585 models... now I know that I am going to lose my 3G connection when I go home so now I am thinking of buying one of the Telstra T9193's to work on home networks (AT&T).... but looking a bit further at the specs of the 9193 the bands for 3G are listed as 850/2100... so does this mean that if I travel back to europe with an american sim in the phone I would still be able to have 3G connectivity? If I wait for the T mobile version which I assume will be 850/1900, if I return to Europe I would have the same problem as going back home with the T8585... Seems ridiculous actually, you should be able to get a phone like this that can maintain connectivity regardless of where you travel. I remember this problem when I first moved over to the UK and had to get a Razor, just for the quad band so I could use it on both sides of the pond... Oh well, would really appreciate it if you guys had any thoughts on these assumptions and maybe shed some light ;)

-Element
[HD2 General] matthewf01:
This is interesting --- the first such complaint I've heard for the button paint/coloration. If anyone else has noted this, let me know and I'll update the main post and we can hopefully keep an eye on it as more people get T9193's.
[HD2 General] matthewf01:
Did you do HardSPL?

You may get better support on this topic by going here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611433

or here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609477
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
A little abridged guide I had on another thread for flashing 1.66 WWE rom

I installed the southeast wwe asia rom because it is similiar to the Europe wwe rom except it doesnt include co-pilot gps. Co-pilot cant be used here in the US. I expect the same for mexico. Those to me are the 2 biggest wwe official signed roms. You will have more memory with the se asia rom because of the lack of co-pilot. But the sea rom has a button on the keyboard for chinese characters which I don't like.

SE Asia rom download here with this sn. ht9c2nw04056

http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=854

European WWE rom here with this sn. HT9AZNW00968

http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=804&news_id=401

Many do use Dutty's rom as well as mira's. Both are good and both have differences. But being new I stuck with an official rom for now. You need to spend quite a few hours reading the forums to learn the termanology and the differences between these cooked roms. Some people say Dutty's is close but still different and may have things about it that you will not like. Also They may have removed applications that you desire. Also may include a few bugs which you may not wish to deal with.

You need activesync installed on your xp pc or Windows Mobile Device Center if using vista or windows 7. You can get them from here.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/activesync-download.mspx

For HSPL and info about it go here. Needed to flash these roms.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611433

For warranty issues you will have to flash back to the original Telstra rom. You can get it here.

http://htcpedia.com/official_wm_rom_htc_hd_leo_telstra_english_version/soft/htc-leo-rom.html

If you are looking to revert back to the Telstra rom, I believe you have to extract the .nbh file with winrar and put it on a memory card and install it that way. Info on this is also included in the hspl link I gave earlier.

Remember if you are looking for English then choose WWE roms.

Flashing one of the official roms should install your network settings for you automatically. I suspect Dutty's might do the same.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
If you have telstra version then yes. A good part of the world still uses the 2100UMTS band. Of course you will still be able to use the gsm bands anywhere that 2100 is not present and just not have 3G. But please make sure you have the 850UMTS band in your area in CA. ATT should be able to verify that for you.

The US T-mobile HD2 will not be 850/1900. That is ATT bands. They use WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz. I believe 1 band is for sending and the other is for receiving. At least that is how their other phones work. As far as I know this phone will not have 3G anywhere else in the world except for T-mobile in the US because of its bands and wierd data structure.

Yes it would be to easy to have a phone that uses all UMTS bands. What fun would that be? :D
[HD2 General] Audiguy3:
I read that BB bold has this on all their 9700 phones - let's hope that other mfrs adopt this idea: http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/gsm-blackberry-compatible-with-all-3g-bands-in-the-world
[HD2 General] doctajay:
I tried changing my sms service to GPRS and after that I could no longer send text messages. did you have this problem at all?
[HD2 General] Stan City:
I never use my AT&T phone for calls either, so prepaid is the way to go? I never thought of that, I wonder now how much it'll cost me if I went prepaid. I use the crap out of Data though. * Nevermind I'd owe thousands!
[HD2 General] c_legaspi:
yeah if you use data alot then definitely get a data plan. my prepaid data is like 20 bucks for 100 megs and that is only good for thirty days and then i renew a 1 meg package for 5 bucks every thirty days (any unused data gets rolled over from month to month if your renew your data package). i dont surf much (only to check my email) when im not on wifi. i use opera mini 4.2 with image turned off to minimize my data use). i only use my phone as an emergency.

get a data plan if definitely need to stay connected 24/7. i just dont like the thought of having $70 monthly payments.
[HD2 General] KaH_ACT:
Try asking the_scotman who cooked the OZROM, from oz and using settings that work well with Telstra. It has auto settings for Telstra for 3G included.

;) See my settings in signature...
[HD2 General] Michael V:
still confused

Hi every one first post so please be kind.

Just some info i have gathered over the past couple of days reading.

As you are no doubt aware, there are at least two HTC HD2 models, the T8585 (for Europe) and the T9193 (telstra Australia) i was getting confused at to whether the HD2 was a 3G phone as many sales sites were calling it the HTC HD2 2G and charging about AU$650, as opposed to the T9193 Telstra next G which are retailing for about AU$800, i wanted to know whether the T8585 did in fact support full 3G functionality so i sent an email to A 3 mobile rep who keeps track on the Whirlpool Forums.

This is his response ( in this case he refers to the T9193 as the telstra 850 model)

"There is a strong chance the Telstra 850 model will NOT support 2100 UMTS/WCDMA

You'll note the HTC website for the HD2 fails to mention an 850 UMTS version.

You'll need to double check the one you get supports:

2100 WCDMA

900/1800/1900 GSM

You're right those specs are the same, and neither mentions the 850 UMTS supported by the Telstra or ATT versions."

he did give me some good news thought wrt using the HD2 on t he 3 network in australia

"There's no technical issues with a HD2 at all, (I've seen data that we already have some on the network) you'd need to make sure its unlocked and supporting the right frequencies.

2100 WCDMA or UMTS

and 900/1800 GSM

850 WCDMA is the other one to look for as it enables nextg roaming.

Only other thing you'd need is to set the APN details when you get it.

3services is the apn and apn name. No username or password.

Should be perfect from there."

The real difficulty i have is that the HTC website doesn't differentiate between the models (in fact the HTC Europe website and the HTC Australia website don't even mention there are two models

from HTC australia

Network Bands2

HSPA/WCDMA:

* Australia: 850/2100 MHz

GSM:

* Australia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

and from the HTC Europe website

Network Bands2

Europe: Network Bands

* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz

* GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

Asia Pacific:

* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz

* GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

and even a search on "9193" or "8585" returns nothing.

Is it just me or are HTC trying to make it really hard to buy one of their magnificent products :(
[HD2 General] rodrigofd:
SOME FACTS. Please anyone that knows missing data correct.

* There are currently 3 HD2 phone editions:

* Original - T8585

* Telstra operator (Australian) edition - T9193

* T-Mobile operator (USA) edition - TXXXX < ?

All editions are GSM-Quad band. That is, you can use GPRS/EDGE WORLDWIDE.

Main difference is UMTS (3G) supported frecuency bands:

* Original (T8585) uses 900 + 2100 3G bands.

* T9193 uses 850 + 2100 3G bands.

* T-Mobile USA uses 1700 + ?? bands (only supported by T-Mobile USA)

Other differences are T-Mobile US doubles ROM size (1gb), minor housing details (small Next-G logo).

This means, that 3G can be used in:

* T8585, 3G works in Europe and Asia (maybe partially in australia?).

* T9193, 3G works in Australia, with AT&T in USA, and in most Latin America (because of it 850 3G band).

Partially in Europe and Asia.

* T-Mobile USA 3G only works in T-Mobile USA.

The case of the T9193 is complex, because it supports ONE OF THE TWO europe/asia 3g bands (2100 from the 900/2100 pair), and ONE OF THE TWO american 3g bands (850 from 850/1900 pair).., so in conclusion, you get a partial-coverage in America, and partial coverage in europe/asia.

The value of the T9193 is that is the only current (probably ever) version supporting 850 band, but officially it only is supported to work in Australia. That's why many AT&T and latin american users (like me) are getting T9193 off-shore.

Flashing details:

In order to flash custom roms, all editions can be Hard-SPLed (however each edition supports particular versions of the HardSPL).

ROMs for T8585 and T9193 can be used 100% interchangeably.

T-Mobile US phones can also interchange some ROMs with the other two, but with some considerations (because of double ROM size and other internal differences).
[HD2 General] mcmasterp:
I have read the entire thread, good info thank you everyone.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the side bonus you get with the t9193... euro car mounts and accessories!!
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Also the 850 UMTS band from the T9193 will give 3G in most of canada too with Rogers I believe and maybe others.

What side bonuses? They do not come with the T9193. Unless the vendor threw them in as a bonus. Those can be gotten for any version.
[HD2 General] mcmasterp:
I only meant that cheap euro HD2 car mounts/skins/etc will fit the t9193. they do not fit the tmous version because it is 1.5mm taller
[HD2 General] johnboatcat:
Anyone got Bing maps running on AT&T? Florida?

Installs but no search or nav. Says to check your connection and another balloon says "Device not supported. We are working ...." Downloaded from site and it recognized my phone?

6.5, Miri Ver 10, 2.0.8 radio

Maybe they made a deal with AT&T?
[HD2 General] ReplicantRoy:
HTC HDT on Telecom NZ

Hi folks

Has anybody had any experience with a HTC HD2 t9193 on the telecom New Zealand XT network?

I am having trouble configuring the data connection and Telecoms phone support is totally unhelpful.

Am I right in concluding that there is no reason, other than software misconfiguration that I sould not be able to establish a data connection?

I am still using the Telstra standard Rom at this stage as I dont want to put a new ROM on until I am sure that the handset will work 100% on the XT network. I am able to make and recieve voice calls and SMS with no problems.

Any advice on data connection config or likelyhood of a new ROM solving my problem would be appriciated.
[HD2 General] matthewf01:
I've been able to run the new Bing app and use the navigation feature without problem on AT&T in Atlanta.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I too have installed the new BING application. Everything works 100% with it. I installed it to the storage card. I used opera to download it. Opera did not allow it to detect my version. Maybe you picked up the wrong version. I heard if you use IE it will correctly detect your phone and install the correct version. Again I have no issues with the new version. Navigation works fine.
[HD2 General] johnboatcat:
Did you ever get the warning bubble that said it

did not support your phone, but they are working on it?

I have used several cabs and they all do the same with the no search, check your settings error. I did a hard reset and installed Bing and it works fine, so it is just not playing well with one of the other umpti-million apps I have installed.

Funny though I just tried to download the new Googe maps and it said that it does not support my "MINI 5". Looked in my settings file and the phone description in hardware is correct. Downloaded Google to my computer, installed and it runs fine with all of my other apps. Voice works fine.

Time to bump up my MIRI version anyway so I will just do the old "install each app and test" routine. Will report back the bad actor when I find it.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
If you try and install the apps using Opera you will get the phone not supported answer. Try using IE to install the applications.
[HD2 General] johnboatcat:
Upgraded my Rom

to Miri V13.1, radio 2.10 and re-installed all of the apps. Bing is working 100% now so I can't say what the problem was. Maybe a remnant of some app I removed.
[HD2 General] lquigley:
Installed on computer?

I just downloaded to computer, it said your device not detected! of course! but it said hd2 was compatible. I just sent it to phone later. Works great, love it!!!
[HD2 General] freakflow:
Hello Baked Bread,

I just purchased a t9193 from australia through ebay, I was wondering if you have made any registry mods that you made to optimize reception/battery etc for use in Toronto other than the changes you have described above?

Thanks!
[HD2 General] freakflow:
Thanks for reminding to check ebay.com.au, checked and got a t9193 for $640+47aud with shipping!
[HD2 General] mugwump2:
576MB ROMs versus Telstra ROMs

I did my first ever custom rom install on 9193 HD2 for at&t.

I installed a Miri and Dutty rom for the 576MB RAM.

I used 2.05 stock radio, 2.10 dutty radio in both.

I also used agoattamer band cab to make sure the correct band setting of 1900 GSM/ UMTS 850 was used and not just the auto setting trying the wrong bands on phone.

I checked the speed using iphone 3g speed web site with opera and IE.

Both 576MB were considerably slower than both the installed telestra ROM and new upgraded teletra rom from april.

The new upgraded rom was 15% faster than the older telestra.

1st noob question:

Are Miri and Duttys roms just optimized for 8585 (they put 8585 in phone model setting when installed) and telestra has a normal advantage because it is optimized for 9193?

Or are the 576mb roms which are based on tmobile phone have some aspect to get extra rom but it makes connections slower (I read that the radio and ROM need to be specific types and could this cause the reduced speed)?

2nd noob question:

Is there a 576mb rom out there with a starting base 9193 rom to have 576mb and keep the speed (I like having my cake and eating it too)?

3rd noob question:

I used bepe's hspl and mskip (flashing for noobs) hd2 custom ruu. I had my mcaffe say they were trojans and deleted them. Is this normal? I had to turn off virusware when flashing.

Thanks

mugwump2
[HD2 General] englundm:
Javajunkie80, I've had exactly the same experience, did u resolve this? the notifications are driving me insane also.
[HD2 General] englundm:
Javajunkie80, I've had exactly the same experience, did u resolve this? the sms sent notifications are driving me insane also. Mark
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Try using a registry editor like resco or ce registry edit.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Jataayu\Messaging]

"DisableSMSSuccess"=dword:1

dword should be 1 for disable notification or 0 for enabling your sms sent notification.
[HD2 General] markber:
I have tried this on my HD2 and it doesn't work for me. Any suggestions?
[HD2 General] stumped:
have you tried this?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5881873&postcount=8
[HD2 General] hofo_mofo:
If you are looking for an AC adapter why don't you try this:

http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=195452

which can be bought at expansys.ca

http://www.expansys.ca/d.aspx?i=200192

i know you dont want to spend 50$ on an adapter, but imo when it comes to power on a device i like keeping it company specific...the only time i sway is with a mugen battery, which is known for excellent quality (and it is great indeed)
[HD2 General] markber:
Yes - I have tried to set the value to 0 and 1, but am still getting the "Message was sent successfully" notification :-(
[HD2 General] rdleeuw:
Where to buy the T9193 in Buenos Aires

Hello,

I'm from the Netherlands and traveling quite often for work to Argentina and Mexico. I'll be in Buenos Aires next week and would like to buy the T9193 there.

Does anybody have the address of a store in Buenos Aires (preferably close to the Puerto Madero area) where I can buy the T9193?
[HD2 General] 2udCrRAZdK:
T9193 configuration for AT&T 3G

Just got a T9193, I have USA AT&T service and am having a hard time getting it to connect at 3G. All I ever get is Edge "E".

I'm betting that I've just missed something simple, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is.

My sim card was used flawlessly in a HTC Fuze and always connected with the 3G at very good speeds, with the T9193 all I ever get is edge.

I've used several ROMs and several radios with no luck. I love the phone but would really like to have the faster data connection.

The Radio I'm currently using is: 2.10.50.28_2 and I'm using Energy.Leo.23569.Sense2.5.Cookie.May.22 for the ROM

If anyone can lend a hand or tell me their configuration that worked, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,
[HD2 General] mmbika:
I got telstra HD2 just 4 days back. Using it with vodafone and it is just fine 3G, H all OK.

Now when trying internet sharing on Bluetooth PAN, it tries to connect to 'Telstra Broadband" only and doesn't work. I have setup My Connections wih vfinternet.au for internet access and it works just fine, WiFi Router too is fine as it gives choice to choose connections. But this Bluetooth PAN in internet sharing defaults to "telstra boardband" only.

How to get rid of this telstra connections (can't delete them) or atleast make them selctable in Bluetooth or may be USB PAn for internet sharing when required?
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Where are you located? There are a handful of cities that just don't have the right frequency (though, as I've said many times in this thread, ATT is slated to move all 3G to 850MHz by Q4, which would be good for our phones.)
[HD2 General] 2udCrRAZdK:
I'm just outside of Toledo, OH. Is there anyway I can tell from my HTC Fuze which band it is using to connect for 3G?

Thanks,
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
If there is a way, I don't know it.

Long story short, if Edge works, 3g should automatically work assuming the signal is available in your area -- there shouldn't be any additional steps unless your phone is configured improperly in the first place.

Just to verify: press the phone button, go to menu, options, scroll down, and click Band. Network type is set to Auto, and Band frequency is set to auto too, right? (Note: I'm running a different version than the stock Telstra rom so it might not be EXACTLY like that)

If you're running a cooked ROM (eg. dutty's I think had this "feature"/problem), go to the communications manager and see if there is a "3G switch" which I believe is a registry toggle.
[HD2 General] felcas:
Navipanel on Telstra

I tried to find the NaviPanel in the Windows directory but was not able to.

Other Telstra could confirm that this version does not come with Navipanel?

Also I don't find my old Googlemaps that I had before changing the ROM. I guess I also lost that with the change am I correct?
[HD2 General] 2udCrRAZdK:
Yes, those are my settings, although I've tried others. I'm going to Cleveland this weekend, so I'll see if 3G works there.
[HD2 General] chn110:
Run fieldtest.exe http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=274269

select WCDMA group, get servingUARFCN, then look up the table below to get the frequency

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
[HD2 General] KaH_ACT:
Problem with ROMs

fixed - ignore