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[HD2 General] jrchester:
eBay Advice on T9193 & any Differences w/T9193 bundles

Wow - thanks for that advice. This is why I posted the question to

being with!!

Great - so now I'm going to focus on eBay for my purchase of the T9193

(brand new - not used). Any things to watch out for wrt / eBay?

Any things to watch out for with regard to "red-flags" from poor

eBay vendors as well?

In particular are there technical bundles of the T9193 (new) that are

better than others? Are they all the exactly same from Australia? Do

some of these bundles come directly from HTC? Are there any release

differences from HTC wrt the T9193 - or are they all exactly the same?

And lastly - which ROMs are the best for running the HD2 T9193 in the

US with ATT? I like my phone lite on apps (prefer to install my own) with plenty

of memory etc. Do most of the ROMs have the HTC Sense built-in? Any advice

on what to do first when I get my T9193 to clean it up?

[[ I am familiar with the ROM upgrade process from my old HTC Cingular 8525 (Hermes) - which has finally died "a sad death" with my touch screen finally freezing for good. It was getting really old and needed to die anyway!! :eek: ]]

I apprecriate all of the great advice. I would hate to learn these lessons

the "hard" way and believe in sharing good advice - technical and buying.

Any advice on the T9193 is greatly apprecriated! :D

VR / - John
[HD2 General] aenimal:
I got mine on eBay in March. I'd say it's safe, just look for usual things like seller rating (I wouldn't buy from anyone with a rating of less than 100% if I can help it), item description (Telstra, T9193, bands, works in US, etc.). Arrived in a week by Fedex, no problems whatsoever.

Don't know anything about technical bundles, but sounds a bit sketchy.

As far as ROM/radio, I'll tell you what works for me. I stay away from cooked ROMs and providers' customized ROMs personally. I wiped Telstra ROM immediately. I currently have ROM v. 1.72.831.1 (82124) WWE and Radio v. 2.12.50.02_2. If you search the forum, you'll find all the necessary files, installation instructions, etc.

Sense is built in, but you can always switch to WinMo default interface. With Cookie's Home Tab installed, though, I find that Sense works just fine for me.
[HD2 General] The GrCornholio:
Ditto on that advice! From what I've seen, unless you want to experiment and enjoy the process (nothing wrong with that), sticking with the basic ROMs and RADIO's are a good way to enjoy the HD2.

With eBay, while being predictably safer than the bad apples we've already discussed like Negri, you still need to beware of the occasional scammer that passes off refurbs or used items as being "NEW". Usually the reputation feedback (no different than Negri's) will tell you if they are trustworthy. In Negri's case, I violated my own rules by not researching them first. Had I done so, I would have stayed away. Sometimes even people in law enforcement get scammed too.

Most of the time you will find people and posts here on XDA that help greatly. So far, this forum has been a great source of factually consistent information for me.
[HD2 General] jrchester:
Thanks for the eBay & ROM Advice

Thanks to both of you for the eBay and ROM and also the Radio Advice.

I have used ROMs and Radio's from XDA members before (with my

now dead HTC Hermes - RIP! :eek:) with fairly good results.

I will take your advice - and probably start with a basic ROM after HSPL

for the T9193 (once I actually buy one). Also thanks for the info on the HTC Sense.

XDA is a great source of info and I'm always learning on this site.

Thanks again to both of you (and others) who have helped me in the past.

R / - John
[HD2 General] The GrCornholio:
You're welcome!

A quick update on my Ryan Negri/Negri Electronics nightmare...

It took my Credit Card company less than 8 hours to process my chargeback complaint against Negri Electronics.:p

Evidently the Credit Card company found the evidence so overwhelmingly convincing that it did not merit any delays. I encourage all that have been wrongfully charged by Negri Electronics or have unresolved quality and/or return issues with Ryan Negri and Negri Electronics to promptly file their complaints. Be sure to save all transcripts, receipts, or web site snapshots as evidence and submit them with your complaints.

Above all, be persistent and don't take NO for an answers, from Negri or the Credit Card company. As consumers, we have rights that can only be preserved when we fight for them and not just roll-over in futile acceptance.

Complaints with other consumer protection sites, BBB, as well as Federal and State agencies will follow. Until such time that Ryan Negri and Negri Electronics atones for their deeds with a sincere apology and change their reprehensible business practices, threads like these will continue to inform the public and serve as a red flag to potential Negri victims.:D

This is NOT a "flaming", it is simply a Customer's viewpoint rendered well within the guidelines of this Forum and my rights as a citizen of this nation.
[HD2 General] jaxboater:
Try a smaller SD card (4 gig or less)
[HD2 General] Ross202:
Time & Location Setting Defaults to Brisbane

Have posted this question on another thread but then found this and thought it was probably the more appropriate place to ask for help.

Is anyone else having this problem?

This is my 2nd HD2 (first one was replaced because of a GPS chip problem) and the've both had the same issue. I have a Telstra HD2 with stock ROM. I live in Sydney, Aust, but phone keeps resetting to Brisbane after a soft/hard reset. Creates problems for daylight saving, etc and GPS sometimes wants to start driving from Brisbane - makes for a long drive ha, ha.

Have tried all the usual settings but was wondering if there was a reg setting or something that can be altered. Have checked with Telstra and they say my Sim card is correctly set for Syd, NSW, Aus so don't know what else to look at???

Any help greatly appreciated.
[HD2 General] tmorgan4:
HA. I live on the Gold Coast and it resets to Sydney.

I think I used to fix it via Settings Page - All Settings (down bottom right) - Personal - Phone. Under that is a GSM/UMTS Services Tab. Under Time Syncronization disable it.

That said I don't think I needed to do so since I switched to the 1.72 ROM.

http://www.htc.com/au/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all

On that page is also a file for Daylight Savings. I am unsure if I have it on my current phone as I haven't whiped it in ages.
[HD2 General] Ross202:
Time/Location Set

And the Winner is .... TMorgan4 of the Gold Coast. Isn't it amazing the way the simplest thing proves to be the most difficult to fix. Thanks for your help. Problem seems to be resolved now - have done a couple of soft resets and time/location stays on Sydney. Thanks again XDA is the greatest.
[HD2 General] ecb5:
i bought a t9193 and flashed it with the dutty's v2 rom.

I have this issue and wonder if it is normal...

When ever my phone doesn't receive 3g coverage my phone reboots. Exemple: in a movie theater and 3g not very strong or not accessible....phone reboots.
[HD2 General] Erik Latranyi:
I have a T9193 running Cookie's GTX 2.5 ROM on AT&T. Love the phone.

I am traveling to Hungary next week (will not go to other countries) and want to get a pre-paid SIM for mostly data (this will be cheaper than AT&T roaming since I am data intensive).

T-Mobile has the best coverage in Hungary and spotty 3G (still better than others). I think one of their pre-paid SIMs will work in my T9193 and I will get EDGE at least and some 3G on the 2100 band.

Am I correct on this?
[HD2 General] Ross202:
European ROM Upgrade for HD2 - What about Australia

I see on another thread that European ROMS are being upgraded by HTC. The new ROM gives them access to 576mb RAM not the 448mb in the Telstra ROM. Anyone know if a similar upgrade is planned fo rthe telstra ROM? perhaps someone for HTC who reads the Forum might know/reply???
[HD2 General] the_scotsman:
Most, if not all of the custom ROMs on XDA for the HD2 enable the extra RAM.
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
Anyone else having trouble sending MMS mesg ?

I am able to send a Photo mesg but not a Video :(

I get Error mesg -

Video Options-

Unable to execute MMS Composer.

Please make sure MMS Composer has been installed on your Pocket PC

Do i need a cab to fix this or settings ?

Thanks
[HD2 General] Palmiter:
I don't know about the size this company but I have purchased my last two phones from him. Both where delivered on time and at a better price and faster than I could buy the phone anywhere else, I am sorry to hear that some are having trouble with this vendor but I and a few friends in NY have had good luck with this guy. FYI: He was always fast to answer my calls and emails.
[HD2 General] terence.palmer:
Okay so ... I di not read the whole thread ... but it the real diference between the T8585 and the T9193 .... hardware?

therefore if you have a T8585 in australia you will neve get 850 UTMS?
[HD2 General] JLowe:
that's confusing, I read also that the hardware of the T8585 supports the 850 mhz band, but as I understand it know that isn't true, i.e. for using the Australia telstra 850 mhz band you need the T9193 device, this is an hardware issue, you aren't able to get 850mhz by a software patch.

the data are confusing here

m.pocketnow.com/thought/t-mobile-hd2-vs-htc-hd2-comparison
[HD2 General] Revhead:
Hi guys,

I'm looking at switching to the HD2.

I love my i900 Omnia especially sincing flashing a new ROM and adding SPB Mobile Shell with mskip's great WP7 skin.

But my poor old Omnia is starting to show its age.

Everyone has an iPhone and I'm not everyone and you probably all feel the same way too. I like the look of the Galaxy S but Android is not mature and neither I'm guessing is WP7 yet either?

I'm attracted by the HD2 because as a piece of hardware it's right up there, but I can keep on using WM which means I can keep on using all the great apps that are available and freely downloadable, especially Igo8 which I use all the time.

I understand that later when it becomes more mature I can reflash it with Android if I want anyway?

I assume that all I have to do to unlock the HD2 once I get one is flash a new ROM like I did with my Omnia?

I'm looking at the HTC TOUCH HD2 T9193 (with GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900, 3G 850 (NextG/US3G) and 3G 2100).

I assume that it will also work with 3G Vodafone once it is unlocked?

One other questions for Omnia/HD2 owners.

I'm hoping the HD2 doesn't suffer from the Omnia's hit and miss Wi-fi problems. I have rarely managed to get my Omnia to connect with my Billion router at home.
[HD2 General] techntrek:
Same for me, my phone is due in today (would have been yesterday but the carrier was too lazy to figure out I was home!), delievered in 2 days as requested. I'll report back if I have any problems but so far, none.
[HD2 General] Revhead:
Ordered an HD2 yesterday.

It's the Telstra model even though I'm with Vodafone.

Vodafone's reception outside urban areas in Oz is ****e to start with, so I doubt very much whether I'm going to miss Voda 900Mhz anyway (I don't with my current phone which does support 900Mhz).

Looking for recommendations from fellow Aussies about getting rid of the Telstra stuff - what do you recommend doing first and and in what order should I do it?

If you recommend flashing another ROM I'd be more interested in a Lite ROM because I will be running SPB Mobile Shell on top of it with mskip's great WP7 theme.

Any advice gratefully accepted?
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
Energy Rom is worth a try

I think you will like it
[HD2 General] hamer.jp:
thanks for this post. i had same problem after rom update and you have sorted it for me!!!
[HD2 General] KaH_ACT:
Try OzRom, that's what I am using
[HD2 General] Revhead:
I didn't realise there were issues with MMS with this phone.

A mate sent my a picture yesterday and it refused to download. Since then I have been reading and discovering sending and receiving MMS messages is not as easy as it sounds.

I'm with Vodafone AU.

I tried going to the Voda site and downloading the settings for my phone which it did - but still no MMS.

Has anyone worked out how to get this working?
[HD2 General] bowpay:
If anyone is interested in a T9193 HD2 I am selling one on ebay. It ends tomorrow and I live in the US.

Mod edit, ebay link removed. Refer to forum rules regarding selling on xda
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
How much u selling it for ?

what rom do u have on it ?
[HD2 General] FirefighterDown:
What's the default stock radio version on the stock rom that comes with a Telstra HD2?

I flashed it to: 2.07.51.22_2

But now on outgoing/incoming calls, there's NO audio yet the phone has audio everywhere. I cancel the call and the HD2 crashes/hangs and a pull off the battery is necessary.
[HD2 General] iarapilot:
Got a question.....I have ordered a T9193 and will be using it on ATT in the US. I have read the threads, but cant find a definitive answer.

I will be flashing it with HSPL3, and want to put an HTC WWE Rom on it. I have a T8585 with the 1.66.707 ROM, and it runs fine. Have also put the 2.12.50 radio on it and am dual booting MDJ's Revolution 1.7 Android.

So, on the T9193, would the 1.66 WWE ROM work fine on the Telstra HD2 for use here in the US? Any specific problems doing this that would relate to the Telstra ROM/phone setup?
[HD2 General] jeffanderson:
Every Telstra HTC HD2 owner needs to tweet @Telstra and @HTC for an official upgrade from 1.72rom to 3.14rom as a protest for the lack of after sales support for this great phone.
[HD2 General] c_legaspi:
im using one with hspl 3, 1.66 rom, radio is 2.14 i think. also using android as well. works good in wm and android. android seems to drain batt ok at times and sometime fast. good enough tho to run two os^s
[HD2 General] iarapilot:
Sounds good, thanks.
[HD2 General] lantern20:
I used the original hspl and never changed it. you can see in my sig the rest.
[HD2 General] jabreu203:
T9193

I have a Mint T9193 running Custom ROM and Android. Hit me up if you're interested
[HD2 General] iarapilot:
Too late. Got one on the way from OzDigital. I am sure your price is better though!
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
Please pm me

whats teh price you want ?

or anyone whos selling

need a good price

Thanks
[HD2 General] Revhead:
Why bother.

Just install a non-Telstra ROM or a custom ROM - both with the Telstra crap removed.

From my limited experience so far with this phone you have everything to gain and nothing to lose?
[HD2 General] Poppapete:
I agree. Takes less than 10 minutes and you get a phone that is twice as good.
[HD2 General] iarapilot:
FYI..ATT and Opera speed

When I was using my T8585 on ATT with EDGE only, I changed my Opera settings that are talked about on this page. They did increase my speed with EDGE. Now that I have a T9193 on ATT, these settings also increased my 3G speed using Opera. 731 kbps now. FYI.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=627318&highlight=ATT+opera+settings
[HD2 General] qqdawg:
Question for you, does your data (3G/GSM) crapped out after awhile? I'm using the T9193 (using Radio 2.10.50.19_2) & a T8585 (forgot which radio), both will lose the data connection after a while. ( I already try different flavors of Android with the same results)

However, the phone's data connection is fine using Winmo 6.5.x.

Please shed some light, if anyone have any idea on what is going.
[HD2 General] dudeluv:
Try this,

For Opera to open MEdia Net homepage, open opera then in search bar input

1)about:config

Preferences Editor page will come up

2)scroll down to Proxy, open up Proxy

3)Go to HTTP server, input wireless.cingular.com:80

4)Go to HTTPs server, input wireless.cingular.com:80

scroll down

5) Put a check Mark in both HTTP and HTTPS...click save and ok...

Type in the search Bar att.mcore.com

MEdia Net Home Page should come up, if it does not, try again. Then set MEdia Net as home page. in settings/start page

I have no problems with weather or You tube doing this. I also have gotten edge speeds up to 850:)
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
Data dropout/death is completely up to the radio.

For my T9193, 2.11.50 (the first version that came out, forgot the number after the 50) solved all of my data problems.
[HD2 General] iarapilot:
I have had no problems with WM or Android.
[HD2 General] lil_italy:
just a question about ppls 3G speeds with there HD2 t9193s. i have mine usb tethered right now and did a speedtest.net this is my speeds.

why am i only getting under 1mb downloads on 850mhz? my iphone 4 was gettin up to 2.5... is there another freq that helps with the speed of 3G other than 850mhz or is it just my fone?

i love the speed over the slower tmous on ATT but wish it was at least a full 1.5mb

EDIT: this is with running in the energy rom with only 2 of the 4 bars.
[HD2 General] ilordvader:
How to move contacts from HD2 to iPhone ?
[HD2 General] KaH_ACT:
Good advice!! :):cool:
[HD2 General] the_scotsman:
Yep ;)

When I got my HD2, I looked through it for about (literally) 5 minutes, then flashed a custom ROM :p

Then started cooking my own, as seen in my sig...but now haven't used WM since July...Android is far superior.
[HD2 General] KaH_ACT:
Step 1 Link and sync to PC (Outlook) from HTC HD2

Step 2 Link and sync iPhone with PC and outlook

Alternative don't go to iPhone :D
[HD2 General] KaH_ACT:
I like WM as I can run other Windows stuff like office, and other stuff that I have on my laptop...
[HD2 General] the_scotsman:
Android has an office suite that is compatible with MS Office documents ;)
[HD2 General] KaH_ACT:
Maybe compatible, but I like using Office....:D:cool:
[HD2 General] jrchester:
Loving my HD2 and awesome with Engery ROM

Latest update (to share with you all!) since I purchased by HD2

(on eBay got an Aussie Telstra HD2 per the advice in this thread).

First off - thanks! :) It's an awesome phone. Best I've ever seen and used.

I took the advice of starting with a Stock LEO ROM (3.14) after HSPL

of course. I got used to all of the normal functions and programs using

this ROM.

It's a very cool OS and phone - but the Stock LEO ROM 3.14 left me with

very little Free Program Memory after boot-up (about 50MB Free Program

Memory). After starting Opera and going to just the main Yahoo page -

Free Program Memory dropped to pitiful 13MB! I tired a number of the

"Boost" Tweaks and while most worked and speed up my HD2 considerably

- I found that the extra memory taken by the boost tweaks made several

of my apps unusable - including Opera, Marketplace, etc.

Well this "issue" led me to "researching" a number of custom ROMs mentioned

here and in other places. I took Lord Vader's recommendation - and installed

the very latest Energy LEO ROM -Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Dec.20.

Installation was a breeze - no problems and went reasonably fast. I already

had the correct Radio and HSPL 2.08. I checked the Memory usage after bootup

- gosh darn!! Program Memory Free after 1st bootup = 284.33 MB ! Wow!!

I will be "using" this ROM now and I'm happy to say that I've outlived my

Stock LEO ROM experience already. It was a "good learning tool" to get used

the HD2 for sure - but it left me wanting for more and better.

Kudos to Lord Vader for his recommendation for Energy LEO!! Awesome!!!!

I will be continuing my "learning experience" and will continue to tweak and try

more - but so far I"m very happy with my HD2 and now Energy LEO ROM -

great combination!!

Regards - John :D
[HD2 General] fred_up:
As you have found out, you shouldn't run the 3.14 ROM with HSPL - as it leaves you with very low memory and can be unstable.
[HD2 General] jrchester:
LEO 3.14 Stock ROM left me with little Free memory

That may be true - but it was the only way for me to try out the latest LEO stock ROM.

SSPL didn't do the trick for me with regard to my phone. SSPL got me back to SPL 1.49

and from there I was able to go up to SPL 2.08 only with HSPL and then load up the

LEO 3.14 ROM. It did work - just very low on memory. Not the case however with the latest

Energy ROM I referenced above. I now boot up now starting with 290MB of Free Program Memory.

Also I don't remember reading any XDA articles that indicated HSPL would leave me with

little Free memory for LEO 3.14. Where has anyone posted info on HSPL not leaving the user

with a lot of Free ROM? Any why is this the case BTW? It would be good to know, but this is

clearly NOT the case with the cooked Energy ROM!! ;)

R / - John :)
[HD2 General] hofo_mofo:
Hello all

I was wondering, where is the best place to purchase a NEW T9193 other than eBay. The reason being, I haven't seen any auctions for a T9193 which is new, only used.

Thanks!
[HD2 General] bigdonk:
not true, use goldcard method instead to use stock 3.14 leo rom, solves the hspl memory leakage issue.
[HD2 General] jrchester:
Thanks for the advice on usage of Goldcard. Will look into it. Apparently I don't need to use Goldcard method to use a cooked ROM such as Energy however.

Thanks again for the info.

R / - John
[HD2 General] Fusius:
I would just do a search on Google. Here's a site I found when I did one (www[dot]cell2get[dot]com) that had one for ~$450 US. I would just call and confirm that the model you're getting is the T9193 and not the T8585 before purchase, but it's the cheapest i've seen online. Good luck...truly a great phone!
[HD2 General] jonbus:
You bought a new one for $450?? for real?? the only one they are selling is this http://www.cell2get.com/htc-hd2-t9193-telstra-unlocked-works-with-att-3g-p-1629.html for $832.

I´ve just bought one on ebay australia for 345AUD, flawless, it seems new. And they shipped it to Costa Rica with no problem.
[HD2 General] Revhead:
There on the way out. So I wouldn't leave it too long. JB Hi-Fi had them, but the last time I looked they'd removed them.

To be quite honest, although I bought mine recently because I wanted Windows, I have since installed an Android ROM.

After you start playing around with that, you might think twice about going back to Windows which means you'd probably be better served getting a Desire HD (essentially the same phone with more memory).

The only thing Android doesn't do as well is Igo8 - very impressed with wi-fi which seems trouble free compared with Windows.

MTC
[HD2 General] friend'scatdied:
The Desire HD has a significantly faster GPU as well.

But the HD2 looks much, much better.
[HD2 General] griselgallardo:
Hi well I did the latest system update in my hd2 and end up without my swype :( I did download and install this fix for the new version but nothing happened and I cant even see it install. How do I activate it??
[HD2 General] Poppapete:
That cab seems pretty old, here is one I loaded last week. Just copy to your phone and run it.

MOD EDIT::

CAB REMOVED - SWYPE IS NOT A FREE APP AND SO IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE POSTED HERE FOR FREE DOWNLOAD.

http://swypeinc.com/index.html

They have no download link on their site and this product is only available as an OEM. If you find other ways to get it, great. Just don't post it here.
[HD2 General] rpalmer68:
Hi,

The last swype .cab I installed (Fixed-Swype-HTCBlackBird-3.9.10.10.5032) mucked around with all my connection settings, does this cab make any changes other than installing swype?

Thanks

R
[HD2 General] Poppapete:
Didn't seem to change anything but note that I am using a dutty ROM which is probably sweeter and cleaner than Telco ROM.
[HD2 General] Poppapete:
Sorry, my bad didn't realise swype was not free and open. I sure didn't pay for it.