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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kimi_sae_ireba:
personally, i'd hold off on porting the manila packages from the leo 1.8x and oboe debug roms since they seem to be partially branded. the manila packages from the Leo_S roms are older, but from what i've been told, they're not branded.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mwalt2:
Thanks programatix. Do you think you could upload your newer ported EXT packages that you use in your rom? Even just the .xml's or patched .exe's and what ROM they came from would be great and save time on uploading things.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
Hi,

I've just updated the 2014 VGA port at http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6876583&postcount=1625
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
heyy kimi...is there anyway we can count you in with editing our manilla files when an unbranded rom becomes available? We can sure use your help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madnish30:
+1 ?

Thank you sir, could you help us with the manila EXT editing ( you mentioned y'day that most packages can be resized using XML and don't need porting... so wonder if some imp 2015/2016 will be worth patching/re-sizing.)

I completely agree, lets get our aim, and a few things clear in our minds before starting a unproductive thread and confuse new chefs further.

Maybe we should start in Chef central this time, as most of the big chefs/developer visit that side often and we may get some help ?

just an idea...

I have contacted amarullz waiting for his reply, he has been bust after marrige..

wonder if he still has a diamond...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
New Contact Card and Menu Enhancement from Obeo are good. New Contact Card now follows the XML files without the need to patch it (except 2 controls) and Menu Enhancement is fast and no need to be patched for WM6.5 (large soft buttons).

However Appointment Editor is still a no go (need to patch).

Album from Leo S and Obeo is fast (compared to usual Leo's Album) but I'm having problem with the Menu bar (it's missing). It's either having problem or I messed up during porting. It need patching and XML editing.

If you can get amarullz back, it would be great, else if I can find time, I think I can do it. It's not a promise though... and of course we have someone more experience here (kimi).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madnish30:
Sure sir i have contacted amarullz no reponse yet,

kimi is great...loved his sense2.1 port..

Do you think 2015/16 is worth a new thread just as yet ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ted973:
what about contact picker,no vga one even now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
I guess we should be sure that the Manila we port supports landscape, Oboe one doesn't.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
Well, one package that I haven't seen anyone port it, but I myself quite need it is new Streaming_Media(Not the one from Tachi). It's on XML, but I'm not good at it. Would you be porting it if you have time? Thanks!

For information, here is a version list:

From Leo S 3.02 WWE(unbranded, landscape support):

Manila_Calendar_2_5_20152831_0
Manila_Core_2_5_20142924_3
Manila_Footprints_2_5_20111529_0
Manila_Home_2_5_20153421_0
Manila_Internet_2_5_20143027_0
Manila_Mail_2_5_20143027_0
Manila_Message_2_5_20143026_0
Manila_Music_2_5_20142727_0
Manila_People_2_5_20142921_0
Manila_Photo_2_5_20142726_0
Manila_Settings_2_5_20143026_0
Manila_Stock_2_5_20143027_0
Manila_Twitter_2_5_20153032_1
Manila_Weather_2_5_20143027_0

From Leo 1.80 KR(branded, landscape support):

Manila_Calendar_2_5_20142522_0
Manila_Core_2_5_20151725_1
Manila_Footprints_2_5_20131425_0
Manila_Home_1_0_19203029_93
Manila_Internet_2_5_19203921_1
Manila_Mail_2_5_20112732_2
Manila_Message_2_5_20144023_0
Manila_Music_2_5_19221828_1
Manila_People_2_5_20152728_0
Manila_Photo_2_5_19203023_0
Manila_Stock_2_5_20122122_2
Manila_Twitter_2_5_19212816_999
Manila_Weather_2_5_20132125_0

From Leo 1.5 2.14 TW(branded?, landscape support):

Manila_Calendar_2_5_20111823_0
Manila_Core_2_5_20152125_0
Manila_Footprints_2_5_20111529_0
Manila_Home_2_5_20153132_0
Manila_Internet_2_5_20113925_0
Manila_Mail_2_5_20121822_0
Manila_Message_2_5_20121820_0
Manila_People_2_5_20161424_1
Manila_Photo_2_5_19224023_0
Manila_Settings_2_5_20121231_0
Manila_Stock_2_5_20153130_0
Manila_Twitter_2_5_20112427_0
Manila_Weather_2_5_20121525_0

From RhodiumW 2.04 WWE(branded, landscape support):

CS_Manila_People_2_5_20112533_3
Manila_Calendar_2_5_20111824_0
Manila_Core_2_5_20132227_0
Manila_Home_2_5_20113623_1
Manila_Internet_2_5_20111729_0
Manila_Mail_2_5_20113610_0
Manila_Message_2_5_20121831_0
Manila_Music_2_5_19222730_0
Manila_Photo_2_5_19224024_0
Manila_Settings_2_5_20121232_0
Manila_Stock_2_5_20111730_0
Manila_Twitter_2_5_20113227_1
Manila_Weather_2_5_20121525_0

From Oboe 0.70 CHS(branded, no landscape support, RSS on Home Tab, no Facebook and Twitter support, need registry tweaks to get Weather tab working):

Manila_Calendar_2_5_20153812_0
Manila_Core_2_5_20153712_0
Manila_Home_2_5_20161427_0
Manila_Internet_2_5_20161412_0
Manila_Mail_2_5_20161212_0
Manila_Message_2_5_20161428_0
Manila_Music_2_5_20161326_0
Manila_People_2_5_20161612_0
Manila_Photo_2_5_20161617_0
Manila_Settings_2_5_20153812_0
Manila_Weather_2_5_20152712_0

We'd better not mix the packages from different ROMs together, it may cause problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
I never tried to port it as I do not know how to test it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
Well, simply open the program and see if it displays correctly, or you may upload for me to test.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madnish30:
Guys shoulw we start a new thread if you guys like ? some other people suggested that we as this is getting confusing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
Any link link I can use to actually test the playback?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
I guess we'd better wait for some time.

Hmm... I have only some Chinese sites using this... I don't know any English sites, but it can play RTSP protocol streaming media, maybe you can find some.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darknessmessiah:
Manila WM language port

Hello there!

I'm trying to port Manila to another language WM... everything goes well, all HTC programs start (I renamed the MUI to my local as I don't care about a few programs in english) but manila doesn't start... not even the message "Launching sense" appears... what am I doing wrong? I already did this once and worked but now it isn't :(

When I go back to select the home selector, sense is not checked as if I didn't select it (on the kitchen it already goes on to the package)

Thanks in advance!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
Did you include all Manila tabs? Or you excluded some but didn't edit 26948339_manila? Or you didn't cook in a correspondent StartIconLoader?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darknessmessiah:
Thanks for the response :)

I used the OEM from which I made an english version of it (the 2015/2016 CFC from this forum - all tabs)... that's why I don't understand... Since the manila itself doesn't have separate language packs...

About the starticonloader, that's a good point for me to start diggin'.

thinkin'...

@edit: yes... it is the same... do I have to do something special in another language as the package is CFC'd? (I didn't on EN version...)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
No of course, Manila is always multilingual. Did you exclude any of the Manila tabs?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darknessmessiah:
No I didn't... to be sure, I just copied all manila tabs from the package to my "pot" to see if it solves... but what I think is strange is that it doesn't even try to start sense and disables itself on settings=>today items... :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
Ok, did you include the correct initflashfiles(aka app.dat)?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darknessmessiah:
that was my first concern... I've used an old initflashfiles that I had from a previous working pt version to test (didn't work) so I translated my english version (didn't work as well)

In my first attempt a month ago, I remember having this issue, but don't recall what I did differently besides edition the initflashfiles and reg keys to my language.

@edit: bootlancher has something to do with it? it's there in the HKLM\init and all...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
I don't think so... Did you mixed Manila packages from different ROMs?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
Ok, I find a Manila to rule them all...

Manila 2016 from Leo S 3.04(OEM only, no ROM at present):

ftp://rom:3gin.net@ftp.3gin.net/Resource/20100618_Manila_2_5_20161332_0_from_Leo_3.04.7z

Password: 911

Thanks 911SnIpEr!

Version List:

Manila_Calendar 2_5_20153814_0
Manila_Core 2_5_20161332_0
Manila_Footprints 2_5_20161230_0
Manila_Home 2_5_20161714_0
Manila_Internet 2_5_20143027_0
Manila_Mail 2_5_20161214_0
Manila_Message 2_5_20161428_0
Manila_Music 2_5_20161224_0
Manila_People 2_5_20161424_0
Manila_Photo 2_5_20153633_0
Manila_Settings 2_5_20161214_0
Manila_Stock 2_5_20161214_0
Manila_Twitter 2_5_20161326_0
Manila_Weather 2_5_20161214_0
StartIconLoader 2_5_20142625_0
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darknessmessiah:
I used the Manila from Oboe (2015/2016 and the rest from Leo 3.01 (it worked for the EN version =/)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] celoni:
great...i think we should focus on this manila with core 2016...and search for a developer to port it:)

or wait for the final release of the Leo_S rom(for what i know is a Test until now)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
There you should edit 26948339_manila. Oboe doesn't have all tabs in and you need to manually add them in. And I don't recommend mixing up packages.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
ya the Leo_s rom seems legit....it has 2016 core, only one i beileve to has it.

Is it unbranded? landscape? If yes whats stopping us other than finding a developer.....we already have quite a few in here that i believe has offered no?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] celoni:
how can i see this info???...for me it's unbranded and support landscape but i can't confirm
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
i beileve i remember seeing it though for a couple days already....i think its been out for a week.....so the shipped version should be coming out soon you would think.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
It's unbranded and has landscape support, therefore I said "rule them all":)

How to judge? Easy, it's from an unbranded Leo ROM, new Leo Manila always has landscape support.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] celoni:
ok...but who are the developers???...madnish can contact amarullz but its not sure that he can do it...any idea???:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] etoy:
if you decide to start porting those packages..i can localize and cfc them this evening when i'll be back home from work.

it's not hard,only time-wasting but at least i'm able to do it and i'd like to contribute somehow.

just tell me if it's needed or you prefer waiting for some shipped rom instead of this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
All Sense 2.5 has landscape support. It can be enabled/disabled via registry. I just tried Oboe's and I can switch it to landscape.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
When I enable landscape on the OBOE Manila (using the Manila Home & other packages), on my WVGA device, the Home screen becomes jumbled, and the Quick Links also get messed up. I guess if you're using ported files from an earlier version, then you wouldn't notice this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] celoni:
if you can do it would be great...thanks in advance:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
do we have any developers here that can give us a definite yes as to porting or editing our manilla file?

This is prob the first step.

question 2...who here think we should not start porting the leo_s??? or do you think we should still wait longer?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] celoni:
for me this manila is good to be ported...start to find a dev:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Gmic1000:
Can anyone please share the OperatorPkg, since I only have EXT files of the OBOE. I'd really like to try this theme ;)

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Omega Kaos:
Manila 2.5.2016

Hi,

I cant seem to get the manila 2016 to work i havent changed anything just put them in and cooked the ROM.

I thought that the Start Icon Loader had to have a matching version to the core e.g. Manila Core 2.5.2016xxxx.x Start Icon loader 2.5.2016xxxx.x

Many Thanks In Advanced
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
From all the sources I was told it hasn't landscape support. Did you overwrite the Oboe Manila with some other files? That may give it landscape support.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
For a start, I do not do copy-paste from older port. I am looking at the code itself. The layout misarrangement for home can be fixed. I am talking about the whole code itself. You can also try changing the project name from Oboe to something else.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
Oh I see, thanks for the clarification. Still, I guess we should put Oboe Manila aside(it's still in early test stage) and port the Leo Manila. What do you think?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madnish30:
I contacted Amarully on FB chat, on FB message he did not reply... He usually does... maybe it was someone else from his ID.

I just asked a simple question "do you still have the diamond as help is needed." no reply.

Maybe Kimi can help.

All the packages mentioned above are still WVGA and need to be ported ( after choosing the best bunch ) am i correct ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
Yes. They are all WVGA at this time. programatrix ported some of the packages from Leo S 3.02. Now the newest packages we get is from Leo S 3.04.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
well the good news is this

Manila_Calendar 2_5_20153814_0

Manila_Core 2_5_20161332_0

Manila_Footprints 2_5_20161230_0

Manila_Home 2_5_20161714_0

Manila_Internet 2_5_20143027_0

Manila_Mail 2_5_20161214_0

Manila_Message 2_5_20161428_0

Manila_Music 2_5_20161224_0

Manila_People 2_5_20161424_0

Manila_Photo 2_5_20153633_0

Manila_Settings 2_5_20161214_0

Manila_Stock 2_5_20161214_0

Manila_Twitter 2_5_20161326_0

Manila_Weather 2_5_20161214_0

StartIconLoader 2_5_20142625_0

2016 Core and all 2015/2016 packages now....i don't believe this is a test file anymore....and it is unbranded and does have landscape support

only thing we are waiting for now is someone to port it...theres no more excuses as to whats stopping us other than a developer/editor

madnish and others if you have some free time please set up a HTC Sense 2016 VGA Port please.

we needa start getting the word across and getting excitement involved other than the group of people we got here.

Lets get us all a new home to hopefully enjoy....this home has served us well, but has outgrown our needs :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madnish30:
Lets find a dev. who can port it and then start a new thread with all the files needed to be ported.. this can help the WVGA lads also because all they need to do is just download and cook ( SOOO Jelous ! :mad: )

I will try amarullz. Someone try Kimi ? Also programmatix, says he can help if he finds some time. CNZQY1: you helped amarullz in the binary comparrison or something.. is that needed for this port ? lets get that started ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
I've posted this yesterday... Well, it may from a Test ROM but I guess we can start to do something.

I guess I don't need to do this... Because new Manila has changed a lot and I guess it's better to look around all files.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madnish30:
Is anyone in for porting yet ?

This is amarullz email:	amarullz@yahoo.com

please if we all request him maybe he can help us.

Hey if it is not correct to post email ID here do tell me ASAP i'll remove it right away.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
so your more or less saying since it's change a lot that we're going to have to port this over from scratch????

cant imagine that that much has changed from 2012 to 2016.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] etoy:
i already use 2016 internet,mail,message and photo with usual 2012 port files and it seems to work fine. home,people and twitter do not work for sure with 2012 vga files. btw if you decide those manila packages are ok,i'll localize and cfc them,just to speed up a little bit. wanted to do it yesterday but found no time,will definitely do it today.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madnish30:
But wouldn't it be better if we overwrite 2016/2015 WVGA packages with VGA 2015/1016 ( corresponding ones ) unlike 2012 ones ( i presume you are ! or you could be using the basic ported ones by programmatix. )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
No need all from scratch actually... But you see, I once use a old VGA port with a new Manila(no ported files changed), it also displays incorrectly. So Manila files actually somehow depend on others. And different developers use different values and port different files, it may be useless to make such comparison.

Well, just so, if any developers need that binary comparison, I can do one.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] etoy:
obviously it would be better to have a totally new port..i just wanted to say that at least those tabs already work with old port..probably a comparison between old and new would be enought to port them again. i didn't try the programatix 2014 ones yet,hope to do so today. does someone knows if newer manila packages are expected or can i start localizing the 3.04 ones?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madnish30:
was wondering.. a few posts back programmatix said that the maila packages ( not tabs ) like appointment editor, messiging client, etc etc need re-sizing not complete porting ( i thihnk XML ? ) so if any of us are good at it why don't we start ?

last time i remember aamikan/aamikam ( sorry don't remember the name ) and programmaix ( album port/resizing) did it maybe we can ask for help from them,

And atleast get EXT packages VGA ready- as it is during 2012 also we could not get all the packages in VGA and had to use some 19XX packages as well.. so we need to initiate this.

regards.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
Why there are two files outside the files folder in Manila Core?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
Just delete it. It was a backup.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
OK, thanks! Have you got any recent updates? I'm just about to try the new Manila.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] etoy:
please post your impressions about it. i already localized about half of the packages,rest will be done this evening..then i'll cfc and upload them all. do you think the footprints tab will be needed too? if not,i'll skip it from localization.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
Well, I haven't got enough time to finish making packages and cooking yet. I heard it's better than 2012. I will try tomorrow.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
This post has been moved to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=711184
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] teorouge:
Please share, thanks! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] etoy:
wheww! awesome :)

sure..will do that this evening,i left all the files at home and i'm at work now. l8r!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Captain_Throwback:
I already made a CAB of the HTC Black theme from the OBOE, posted in my ROM thread here (with screenshots): http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6850037&postcount=1569

I considered making a thread and releasing it, but I got lazy :p. It's not like it's MY work anyway . . .
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] celoni:
I hope to see it soon on my diamond...little question...the other tabs???:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] etoy:
somebody said it's better to not mix tabs from different roms,is it right? because on leo 3.04 there's 2014 internet tab..the only one which is not 2015/2016. there's a more updated internet tab on oboe rom (2016). what to do then?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mwalt2:
It looks like programatix posted that as an update for everyone here saying "we need a developer ahhhhhh". Seeing as how the other tabs aren't listed, I'd say 0% is there they are :).

Thanks for the work programatix.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madnish30:
+1 thanks sir.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] celoni:
he is going to update the post every time he has new tab ported:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
this is amazing news...hopefully maybe by the weekend i can test these out and start cooking :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] celoni:
Quote!!:)

the list is increasing:eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] celoni:
thanks for your work...have a good night:)

test1 is available for download in programatix post:D:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] etoy:
awesome programatix! i'll finish localization+cfc of orig_wvga in a couple hours or so..brb :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
just curious guys...where are you seeing programatix updating the 2016 port?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] etoy:
1 page back,he edited his previous post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6915769&postcount=1707
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
amazinggg......i mean i hate keep on saying this...so guys pleaase yell at me

buttt this is exactly my reason why i keep hoping we'd set up a new thread...2 pages later someone misses something complelty...

a new thread would allow programmitx himself to update the front main page so all can see.

it seems like this port is almost finished with just some minor tweeks remaining...all we need to do now is just port over some of the ext files to vga which should be relatively easy if its just editing xml files.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] etoy:
here's the WVGA original manila 2.5.2016 packages,CFC and non-CFC. both are already localized and ready to be cooked :)

rev2: added 0409 weather database 2330fc3c_manila file to manila core. it caused weather tab to restart sense.

included packages:

SENSE 2.6.2016 CFC

SENSE 2.6.2016 NON-CFC
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
let the testings begin guys....now is the time to start debugging and making sure all works well

just curious does anyone know any differences between 2016 to 2012??? any large substantial differences?

i wont be able to cook these till possibly the weekend.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] etoy:
just cooked a rom with all 2016/2015 tabs (except 2016 home --> 2014 instead) and programatix 2016 ported files,missing ones are replaced by previous 2014 programatix vga.

let's see what happens :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] programatix:
Weather seems to work fine.... and yikes!!! I'm late for work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Gmic1000:
Appreciate it!

Amazing how fast you guys are, will the try the port right-away.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cnzqy1:
Just flashed Manila 2016 from Leo S 3.04, mostly good, but the sunny animation is slow(well, this is expected, I fixed it by replacing it with the Rhodium file), and also I miss the gradient background. And the People Tab also has that annoying SIP bug... When on earth will HTC fix it? Or never?

Others are fine, thanks programatrix for you port! Can't wait your update and full port:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hasseye:
whatd you do to fix the slow sunny animation? what u mean u patched it?

and what u mean by the people tab has a sip issue? how so
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] madnish30:
Lets start a new thread as soon as programmatix is done with the essential tabs, then we can focus on remaining tabs and the EXT packages which need re-sizing/porting/patches.

And also etoy has already compressed and localised the WVGA packages, and VGA will follow when once done.

Things look good.

Who wants to be the OP ?