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[Android Software Development] janfsd:
Any idea on how you want the GUI? any mockup? Btw I think having a main activity that just fires up the ServerLIst activity is a bit of an overkill, they should be merged in one.
[Android Software Development] danslo:
Some dudes named killy_ and Zant in our IRC channel are working on it, i suggest you drop by and ask them about it.

Feel free to submit a patch ;)
[Android Software Development] nicandris:
downloaded the apk and installed. added the server but it fc when trying to connect... i'm i doing smth wrong or it's because of the test version?
[Android Software Development] danslo:
I suggest you open a seperate thread for questions about the Mumble client. I don't even think pcgod visits xda-developers and this thread is about Mangler (a ventrilo client).
[Android Software Development] danslo:
Long bump, but here we go:

We managed to pick someone up (killy) who was willing to do the GUI for the app. Progress has been slow but steady;

Our latest svn build now supports inbound/outgoing audio, as well as userlist/chanlist as well as an ability to switch to channels.

There are obvious bugs that need fixing and we're working on it, but it is coming pretty close to a usable product. As always, any help on our open source project is appreciated, feel free to drop by our IRC channel!
[Android Software Development] Arekku:
Cant wait for the finished product!

What type of device coverage are we looking at? Everything under the sun, or only a select number of models?

Thanks for the hard work and I hope to see this soon!
[Android Software Development] danslo:
1.5 and up :)
[Android Software Development] pyrator:
Exicted

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[Android Software Development] danslo:
App is pretty usable at this point, things missing:

1) Audio mixing. This means that whenever multiple people are talking at once you will notice stuttering.

2) Ability to join channels with passwords.

3) Leaving the app disconnects from server, this is a temporary workaround.

Other than that it's mostly cosmetics, settings, etc.

It is however already possible to add servers, connect to them, join channels, talk to people, and listen to people (as long as it's one person at a time ;)).

We always appreciate people helping out so long as they're knowledgeable of Android development. Feel free to drop by on irc.freenode.net #mangler! :)
[Android Software Development] Arekku:
Best news all day - can you offer a guesstimate of a release date?
[Android Software Development] danslo:
Very early alpha version. Do not transmit in a GSM 8KHz channel! This will get you tempbanned, other codec/rates are fine. We're working on that issue ;)

Please submit bugs / feature requests to:

http://www.mangler.org/trac/newticket

Existing tickets can be seen here:

http://www.mangler.org/trac/query?s...roup=status&milestone=Mangler+for+Android+1.0
[Android Software Development] Whiterin:
Tried this out on the HTC Desire. For me, it didn't do anything. I get two buttons, Server List, and Settings. Neither button does anything for me, but the APP uses up about 40mb of RAM. Looking forward to when this works! Good luck!
[Android Software Development] danslo:
That's an awful lot of RAM, I'll look into that.

Server List isn't very intuitive... When you press it you'll get an empty screen; you can hit the menu button and it'll allow you to add a server.

Settings button isn't supposed to work yet :)
[Android Software Development] Whiterin:
Reinstalling it to see if I can get anywhere with it.

Edit: Alright, I can get to the add new server list now that it's reinstalled... it doesn't seem to be taking up a heep of RAM now either... Maybe it just got a bit screwed up last time or something?
[Android Software Development] Arekku:
Just tested on my rooted droid running bugless beast 1.0

Amazing app thus far, I was really impressed with it, just a few things i've noticed:

Audio mixing problems like you said

No settings (again, like you said)

Would love to see the ability to switch the button used to turn talking on and off

Would like to see a speaker function

That's all I can think of for now, keep up the great work!
[Android Software Development] danslo:
What do you mean by that?
[Android Software Development] Arekku:
Like instead of the audio coming from the earpiece, it would act like a speakerphone. I may be confusing the term with something else...
[Android Software Development] jake1138:
Working

I downloaded the early alpha version that danslo linked. It is working, with the aforementioned limitations. Here are my observations so far (and I know some of these are already known; I'm just listing them for completeness):

- You can add a server but you cannot edit or delete it once it has been added.

- You can see all channels and everyone who is logged in but you can't see who is in what channels (i.e., no tree view).

- If you click on a channel, it will put you in the channel.

- If you click on a person, it will jump to the channel that person is in.

- People can hear you clearly when you speak.

- You can hear other people well except when more than one person is talking; their voices get choppy.

- There is a good 2-3 seconds of delay compared to the desktop application.

- The chat functionality works great.

I am using the app on an HTC Droid Incredible. I'll be happy to do testing for you guys as you make new releases available. I have been a test engineer in a past life and I'm currently a Linux kernel programmer by trade. I haven't done anything with Android yet and my Java is weak so I don't know if I can be any help with development. I wish you guys the best of luck! I look forward to the next release!
[Android Software Development] danslo:
All your observations are correct except for this one. Push and hold the server selection and a menu will pop up allowing you to edit/delete the server.
[Android Software Development] estlie:
great app

it would be nice to be able to use the incredible's speaker instead of the ear piece. i am going to see if it routes through a blue tooth later on today. some indication of which channel i am in and which channel users are in would be great. People love the concept in my guild and it is wonderful app. people hear me just fine.

I will let you know about the blue tooth.

What are the numbers below peoples names? Stupid Q i know but no idea what it means.

Suggestions

Color code names to channels

settings (obvious)

indicator for who is speaking.

Expand the audio to got speaks of handhelds.

Awesome app
[Android Software Development] danslo:
We've been hearing more of this. Will look into it :)

Working on that.

It's their user ID.. don't worry about it, we'll probably make those into channel names.

Working on it!
[Android Software Development] danslo:
Updated alpha apk to latest svn revision. This should fix numerous bugs and add some features, and should make it a bit more stable overall.

Still don't try *talking* in GSM 8Khz channels, you WILL get banned.

People that have previously installed it may have to remove their current installation, I didn't mess with version strings so android won't know this is a later version.
[Android Software Development] stultz:
Great app so far just tested it over wifi on my vent server. My friends voices are very clear, except when more than one is talking. I hope its possible to add admin controls so i can kick people :)
[Android Software Development] estlie:
Sadly the android doesn't automatically switch the audio over to the blue tooth. Thanks for adding the speaker support. is there a list of bug fixes adn features add.

My guildies are all jealous cause i am on vent walking down the street or driving. the ear piece part works for ear phones not sure for a headset with a microphone i have to buy a something of the like to test it. I think the next logical steps will be Blue tooth support and and some options.

glad volume is now controlled through media and audio mixing is better; it does sputter as bad as before

really great improvements awesome app.

Once this matures a bit more it will be my main use of ventrilo
[Android Software Development] swatpup102:
following this thread and signed up to chime in. I'm running this on an HTC evo, and while i can talk, nothing comes from the speaker or headset.
[Android Software Development] 0rsa:
Omg I discover it today and it works like a charm !!! I can spam my friends 24h/24 now !

Very good job, this is an amazing port.

I will now follow the project of course.

A lot of thanks !
[Android Software Development] hoobywho2001:
How do I go about downloading this? I am very interested in testing this. I cannot find a Download link anywhere. In the OP post there is a picture, do I possibly need a prerequisite program to download this? Any help would be appreciated!
[Android Software Development] danslo:
To the people wanting to use it but don't understand how;

Either get barcode scanner (market) and scan the following barcode with your camera,

Or just download the apk directly from the link and install through adb.

http://danslo.org/Mangler.apk

That said, latest changes:

- Latency should be a LOT better now. At least I am getting the same talk delays that I'm getting on Windows Ventrilo client. It can't get much better.

- Couple of memory leaks that would cause phone to become unresponsive after a while have been resolved.

- You can join passworded channels.

- GSM 8Khz bug is fixed.

- A lot of other stability fixes.

Have fun! It should be pretty usable at this point.

Just throwing this out there:

There have been requests for BT headset functionality. None of the developers currently working on it have one as far as I know. Either get someone that has one to write some code, or send us one :)
[Android Software Development] danslo:
Quick bump, but APK has been updated yet again..

We now have audio mixing! You can hear multiple people at once without stuttering. From here on it's mostly cosmetic changes.
[Android Software Development] Wikkoo:
Thanks for this very handy app,it seems to be pretty stable.

The only issue i noticed on my desire is:

First time i get in the lobby i can talk and everything is fine but as soon as i switch rooms(in the same channel) and try to talk it locks in venny.

would be nice if there was option to set default room when entering.

Thanks again.
[Android Software Development] danslo:
Submit a patch or ticket on trac ;)
[Android Software Development] Whiterin:
So. I was trying out the older version. I got onto the vent server I was trying for, but it didn't show any people on, and only showed "Lobby". Force closed a lot. So, I switched to the new one linked in the QR code. Now, every time I try to enter a server it force closes. Will not work at all.
[Android Software Development] danslo:
Using 1.5? And by adding a server you mean pressing the menu button? If so, then this is a known bug and will be fixed soon.
[Android Software Development] danslo:
So yeah, first 'proper' alpha release :)

Link: http://www.mangler.org/downloads/mangler-1.0alpha1.apk

QR Code:

Bugs can be submitted to our Trac page:

http://www.mangler.org/trac/newticket

Or just drop by Freenode #mangler.

This release has many cosmetic and bug fixes, including but not limited to; allowing orientation changes and should no longer crash on 1.5 devices.

Have fun ;)
[Android Software Development] Whiterin:
No. I am using a Desire with 2.1. And no, I can add the server, but I can't join it once it's added. It just force closes. Going to try the alpha you just put a QR code up for.

Update: No, still force closing even with the new version. It force closes once I tap the server I want to join.
[Android Software Development] raistlin74:
Hi all,

where is the menu button on a xdadroid on a Blackstone?

I cannot find it -.-
[Android Software Development] Wikkoo:
i am also using a desire with 2.1 ,no forced close here.

This just keeps getting better,nice improvements in the alpha.

I am still having issues changing rooms inside a channel.

The room i am trying to switch to is set up so you cannot talk over each other,could this have something to do with this?

thanks.
[Android Software Development] desultory677:
I have it working on G1 with CM 5.0.8 test 4. It doesn't run in the background and then when returning it has to FC all the way out back to the server list button to work again.

1. connect

2. do something else

3. come back to empty channel and user lists

4. press menu, disconnect, FC

5. long press server in server list, FC

6. back to the server list button
[Android Software Development] HyBReDM:
Works great for me on 3G.... but it won't even connect on the same WIFI network I have my laptop connected through. A little strange?
[Android Software Development] danslo:
Here we go, alpha3! Try it and please report bugs to our trac page.

Please be advised that this release will send crash reports to a remote server. We only send a stack trace though! If you feel this is still an issue, wait for a non-alpha release! :)

Obligatory QR code:

And alternatively, here's the direct apk link:

http://www.mangler.org/downloads/mangler-1.0alpha3.apk

Happy testing!
[Android Software Development] d0p3d:
I tried this app on my Galaxy S, unfortunately it doesnt seem to transmit anything. The light in the channel goes green when I press the button but no one can hear me.

Friend of mine tested it on his Galaxy S as well with the same result.
[Android Software Development] akijikan:
Wow, this has made great strides.

Does the library include any administrative functions? It'd be nice to at least have kick/ban/mute

Also, I know I'm probably in the minority, but voice activated transmission would be great.
[Android Software Development] Whiterin:
Alright! This newest version works and doesn't force close on me! Awesome stuff. Sometimes the voices cut out a bit, but other then that, it's pretty good.
[Android Software Development] xtarsia:
Having problems transmiting sound on my Galaxy S :(
[Android Software Development] Tostino:
This is very very cool. I just installed it on my nexus one running 2.2. It wouldn't let me change channels though. I can't confirm if voice transmit and receive is working for me yet, because I didn't have anyone to test with.

Edit: Tried another server and I could change channels fine. Will have to do more testing, but keep up the good work! Can't wait for the next release :).
[Android Software Development] panda703:
Works fantastic much thanks for this
[Android Software Development] Sjflowerhorn:
DLing and testing on eris 2.1 ELB 2.7(Built from Cyanogen Mod 5.0.8)

Then im going to switch sdcards and retest on Kaos_FroYo_v10. Going to repost or edit depending on how long i am playing haha. great project idea, hope it goes in the direction you have planned :)

and i thought mabey you should post a server so that people can test by signing in from there computers at home and then their phones to test sound and such just an idea.

so far so good i only used it for a moment or so.

Open gaming server to test on(just tested on ELB2.7)

http://www.clanowns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=146 (i am not a gamer just started searching for open servers and come up with this first. not that you care either way)

SERVER: V7.HOSTVENTRILO.COM

ClanOwns.HostVentrilo.Net

PORT: 4758

Passord: NONE
[Android Software Development] danslo:
For anyone that is posting feature requests, they're not going to get done if you post it here.

Check if there's already a ticket on:

http://www.mangler.org/trac/query?s...roup=status&milestone=Mangler+for+Android+1.0

If there isn't, you can create one yourself here:

http://www.mangler.org/trac/newticket

You'll probably need an account though.

That being said, alpha4 will be out soon that fixes the Galaxy S issue, some crashes when talking in queue mode channels, and other small bugfixes.
[Android Software Development] d0p3d:
Thats great news!
[Android Software Development] daganb:
Unreal that this works, talking over my stereo BT headset to some ventrilo buddies while i'm on the train on my way home from work. Crystal clear and amazing for a alpha/beta.

EDIT: Moto Droid 2.2 (ultimate droid 2.5.0), 1250 ULV kernel, moto s9 stereo headphones
[Android Software Development] danslo:
Ok, so alpha4 is out...

This release should fix transmission issues for several devices (including the Galaxy S), and includes other minor bugfixes / cosmetic changes. Please do not try to change screen orientation while logging in, this is a known issue and is being worked on.

Someone seems to have taken our namespace on the market (org.mangler), so this update will require you to uninstall your previous mangler install manually. We've changed our namespace to org.mangler.android and we can now be found on the market!

Please still be aware that this Alpha release will send crash reports to our server. To clarify this, we have added a EULA starting from Alpha4. If you don't want this behavior, please wait for a stable release

No direct link to apk available this time, just grab it from the market (clickable / scannable):
[Android Software Development] rkantos:
Still can't seem to have the ability to push to talk on the Galaxy S

First time I installed this though.

Anyone else having the problem on Galaxy S?
[Android Software Development] Dissenter:
Just got connected and tested with my server and this looks fantastic. Thank you to all of the developers that put their time into this app.
[Android Software Development] xtarsia:
Same issue here, though its not as bad as it was, but still far far from useable. :(
[Android Software Development] danslo:
None of the people working on Mangler have a Galaxy S. Telling us 'it doesn't work' isn't going to be much help.

What doesn't work? Does it crash? If it doesn't, what is it doing? If it does; provide us with a logcat dump?

Please feel free to jump by on IRC and talk to danslo / killy / haxar / ekilfoil for step by step instructions on how to get us the information we need.
[Android Software Development] xtarsia:
I actually posted a ticket with as much info as i knew how to give, and it got marked as invalid with claims of "its a hardware problem"

Even though other VoIP apps work fine :(

Anyways,

The app doesnt crash, it connects fines, incoming transmissions are very smooth, and sound great, with minimal latency problems even over 2g/3g/HSDPA etc

Chat works great too.

The only problem is when attempting to transmit from the phone.

The following happens (observing from vent on my PC at the same time):

I press the PTT button, on my PCs client the speaker turns yellow and then green in roughly half a second.

I keep holing the PTT button.

No sound is transmitted for about 5 seconds.

Suddenly a small burst of sound lasting around half a second comes through.

No more sound is transmitted for another 2-3 seconds.

Another small burst of sound lasting around half a second comes through.

Here's a recording xtarsia.net/temp/vent.wma

Upon the releasing the PTT button, the transmission stops straight away as expected.

How do i get logs?

Edit: i'll see if i can get on IRC at some point too. Little busy atm though.
[Android Software Development] HyBReDM:
A great feature that you could add to phones that have trackballs such as the Nexus One or the HTC Incredible is when the application is not the focus (it's running in the background) that the trackball serves as the push-to-talk key. Specifically so that we can have our screens off and still be able to talk back.

Just an idea!
[Android Software Development] fsarfino:
Thanks ! for making this its working great on my evo with one small problem, If I sit idle in a channel for a while when I goto talk again the app will force close.

Also in the next release if you were to show everyone that is in a channel that would be great.

Thanks again for the app !
[Android Software Development] xtarsia:
Alpha 5 now working on the Galaxy S. :D
[Android Software Development] danslo:
Alpha5 out on the Market. Should finally fix Galaxy S issues.

For people that are using a Droid X or any other phone that is experiencing poor or broken up audio quality, this seems to be a device issue. We've added an option to force 8khz transmit in our new settings window. This will mean slightly worse audio quality, but at least you'll be able to have normal conversations.

Repeating myself: Features that are requested here WILL NOT BE WORKED ON. Submit a new ticket on our Trac page.

Have fun ;)
[Android Software Development] ebidar:
Just wanted to say, thanks for your hard work, I haven't used it much as I would want, but has been working great.
[Android Software Development] dRaCID01:
thanks for this good work...

The app is working fine and is doing what it has to do...

the next step will be now a TS.3 Client :) !!!
[Android Software Development] mbradley672:
If you are still looking for developers I am willing lend a helping hand debugging for the captivate
[Android Software Development] aladdiniii:
Downloaded from the market on my Desire HD, works perfectly. Thank you.
[Nexus One General] pr0cl1v1ty:
ok. i wiped and it fixed all my problems. good as new .....that i had from cyanogens upgrade from beta 4 to 5

but when i got to buy an app theres no option anymore to pay threw my tmobile account. how can i get this back?
[Nexus One General] Prod1702:
from what i saw the pay using your tmoblie account was something that i only saw in 2.1. I had a G1 before my N1 and had to always pay with a CC so not sure what to tell ya man.
[Nexus One General] pr0cl1v1ty:
well i have 2.1 so that doesnt really help lol
[G1 Android Development] georgegreco86:
Hey guys, well i was sitting here thinking about how much i could actually use the live wallpapers on my phone. I mean i am tired of using the newer android just to have the far and few features that are in it, to sacrifice SOOOOO much.

Am i alone? or Do you people wanna change this too?

I don't know where to start, i just realized that it hasn't been done, i mean we have ported it so far to the g1, and the run AWESOME when optimized.

Lets work on it people!!:)
[G1 Android Development] Burag:
It's not possible.
[G1 Android Development] lilwing:
thats called getting shot down haha
[G1 Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
Wow it's called [Think Tank].. you might get flamed for that mistake...

Other than that, this thread is perfect! Keep it up!

:p
[G1 Android Development] bonesy:
Wow thanks for the help there from mr 65 posts.

Think its a good idea but would need to have live wallpapers off of a 1.6 rom, i suspect this is possible with the right lib files etc.Any idea what files the live wallpapers use?

And btw they once said it wasnt possible to fly and whos laughing now
[G1 Android Development] sassyness77:
lets do it,

Okay this is not Impossible i'd say, because we do have a working 3d cube live wallpaper running on donut i believe :) So, id say we could make this work somehow just dont shoot it all down instantly guys.
[G1 Android Development] Burag:
Wow thanks for proving that posts count != intelligence.

Note: If you have 13337 posts it doesn't mean you've got huge knowledge about Android.
[G1 Android Development] fiktion:
Maybe you should have included a reason as to why you think it's not possible, and you wouldn't have gotten pounced on like that.
[G1 Android Development] SimPRoBer20:
AMEN!!!

ppl r so quick to denounce a good idea/

whether the idea is possible or not lets get to some developmental idea of why it does or doesnt work.

this is "xda develeopers"

lets act like them or not act at all....

nothing against anyone im just tryin to think critcally here.

i feel like a noob for askin but wat ev

how do u put a automatic signiture on ur posts?

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