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[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Learic:
I agree, it appears that Microsoft is taking notes from Apple's strategy and they are joining in. The WinMo devices have always been special because people that like to tinker have a device that they can tinker with. Once it starts enforcing an iTunes like approach, I might consider throwing in the towel and getting the "Real McCoy," an iPhone. If Microsoft wants to go that way, why settle for an immitation?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Badwolve1:
(Crying with disapointment)

Badwolve1
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ElCondor:
I love the design... and the interface...

But indeed, the possibilities in customization are all gone with WM7.

But hey, we are xda-developers, we will crack those phones and get the best out of them!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] panikiniki:
Oh yes at first but as time progresses during this presentation I felt a bit like an iPhone user again.

Microsoft has adopted the exact same strategy as Apple.

This kitchen is closed :mad:
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morpheuszg:
Well, the interface is quite nice and intuitive but without a working file explorer and locked down file system and even no skin support, it will surely get boring after time.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pilgrim011:
Where did you found information about lack of file explorer and locked file system?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Livven:
Everything is possible right now, multi-tasking, file-explorer, we'll still have to wait for MIX. But anyway, even if WP7 gets dumb like the iPhone, it'd be still good for normal consumers who just want a phone with multimedia functionalities. Not everyone has so much time to spend on customizing the device.

Though, I'm sure this community will find a way to mod the new Windows Phones just like always :).
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morpheuszg:
http://twitter.com/windowsphone

There it states, that the file system is locked down so a file explorer would be obsolete.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guap:
I already hate it. it's killing customization and freedom, and a TON of apps. they are crazy
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Livven:
Where? Didn't find it. I thought it's still unclear.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] princegoro:
Man is it me or is the new os designed for dummies??if i wanted an iphone i would have bought one,its sad really,yes they didnt unveil any details (multitasking, file explorer,...) but i think its simply because this is it,im sticking to wm 6.5 or eventually maybe switch to android if the wm 6.x development stops.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdep1:
i hate the the new look! it looks crowded, like the zune hd BIG LETTERS all over the place i like organization on my screen. Its a new concept but the spects look good. The only way i would upgrade is if we are able to creat custom ROMs. It might be the end for me on windows mobile :( might as well switch to android or iphone, but for now just wait to see what its capable of it might BRING better thing for the new era of Windows so i still have hope:rolleyes:..
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pilgrim011:
I don't see such a statement...:confused:
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frmariam:
[RANT]

Hate it... Microsoft is killing Hw diversity (this seems the end of medium/small sized devices and frontal-qwertys... plus all phones will cost even more!) and Software freedom (that interface looks like it'll be very restrictive... very bad especially to us who are used to be able to use and customize the devices as we please) in a single blow (it seems even worse than the iPhone!).

Seems completely bloated... Cluttered... Everything is too big, too many animations... Productivity wise looks like it'll take a lot to do whatever... .Net and Silverlight for everything? How much resources is that gonna eat up (lot of resources ergo battery)! Good code is lite code: C/C++ FTW!

Most features seem useless and web centric (if like me you don't usually have wireless outside your home and don't have a data plan then most of the UI and new features are useless). This is more like Facebook on steroids rather than an OS!

Don't have a 360 so xbox live will be utterly useless...

I didn't see a file browser, app/process manager or anything 3 party... Not even the office... Not a hint of multi-tasking... No Flash (I'm assuming no flv view either... something like WVD and TCPMP combined)... So far don't see the upside (other than the shinny/pretty factor).

It seems designed to force us to use Bing, IE, Zune (on the PC) and incentive to buy a 360... Seems like they are trying to tackle Google (as a web service), Opera/Mozilla, iTunes (with this part I'm OK) and Sony/Nintendo (I can't see a piece of hw win against a dedicated console) in one move (seems like a dirty move... killing 3rd party because of what I assume will be bad integration with the rest of the UI). I'm not even gonna talk about how Microsoft always assumes everyone uses their Office suite on the PC...

Will most likelly be just an overpriced toy rather than an actual working tool...

Will appeal to the dumb masses and let down the majority of the current crowd... Appealing to the masses, a letdown for the core... The social butterfly/duche phone!

[/RANT]

This is just a dev build... I mean I wan't to believe this would be like Sense (a today plugin so extended that feels like it's the full OS) but reason tells me otherwise...

I won't stay in the platform with hybrid systems or "ports"... Time spent "porting" closed source apps is time wasted (would be better spent developing anew). A hybrid system would be like a patched up tire (you can't really trust it and you never know when things go wrong... not to mention the warranty void).

Glad I got that out of my system... I was actually rooting for WinMo as a smartphone OS but now... If all this is correct... hello Android.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tim.Smith:
I love it and so far only complaint I have about it is how long we have to wait for it's release.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fortunz:
Not even close. You don't have abandon power users to be a great platform for the consumer. Microsoft is basically getting out of the smartphone market and being a feature phone os maker.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leodr99:
bye bye tweetie...

After watching for the last 10 hours, to web feeds, reading (i lost count...) an absurd amount of posts and comments....

I've got to say that, I'm sad....

No more ability to use, my great beloved apps... that many developers around here and out, have lost uncountable hours to develop.

Now the platform goes locked, a-lá apple style.

This leaves me to think, that maybe it will be the time for me to change.

But... I'll wait until I get my hands on a working model, so that i can have my deliberation made, unbiased.

Also, i really hope that MSFT do create an business "series" of the OS.

Because this look too damn dumbified to me (general consumer market).

After 10 years using WinCE, WinMo, i've got to say that i'm not that enthusiastic about it.... let's see....

Until then... I just love my multitasking winmo 6.5 HD2! Thanks HTC!!! specifically for the sense ui! keeping the engine under, such an beatifull "chassis"!

my 2cents....
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tsalta:
This is super ugly UI and i don`t know why the do it and also all this about the costumization?!?! this was the reason many peoples to use WinMo devices now in the Future when i get bored with my HD and i need a new Phone will buy the latest iPhone XXX model and will not worry about the stupid bugs,crashes and laggy UI anymore.

WIll keep using WM 6.5 for a long time now
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moswen:
I Like the Zune HD Interface and to be honest after well over a year of rumors outside of seeing the actual UI this is pretty much what I expected (but does any one know if it can actually multitask).

However I do think this will be the downfall of the customization on the level that we are used to with WinMo. I am sure the XDA community will crack this, but If they are not allowing third party UIs Like Manila, Touc Wiz, etc.. that has a larg influence on what we can do customization wise. Look at the current roms out their how much HTC code is incorporated, with WP7 Microsoft seems to be taking the don't touch it view of their OS, like apple and that does not bode well for us I fear. With that said hope springs eternal and perhaps we will see third parties like SPB or even HTC bring custom UIs here is to having your cake and eating it to:p
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OnlinePredator:
It looks sweet as!!!!! Watched the 22 minute long vid showing it off, it's pretty much everything I would need from the phone, and xbox 360 integration COULD be awesome!!!!!

Whenever I upgrade to a new rom, I am somehow hoping that it would just do the simple things well, of which windows 7 mobile seems to do awesomely. I love pretty looking UI's, and am fed up with the dated feel of 6.5 roms (although I like 6.5.x roms I still don't like the Ui's offered).

I wanted to switch to Android mid year, but would deeply consider the upgrade to windows mobile 7..........LOOKS SWEEEEEEET!

P.S. For everyone that doesn't like it, and likes the current 6.5etcetc, they will still exist and you will still be able to use it........This is just the next big step.......and yes you could choose an iPhone or Android, but you would be stupid not to consider the new windows. Looks like a highly updated and better looking iPhone os!!!!

P.S. i am looking forward to not having to do registry tweeks, ram cleaners, special apps just to get my phone doing some cool stuff. So over that lol
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matejdro:
@frmariam couldn't agree more.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_scotsman:
I agree 100%

Too many Microsoft fanbois in here...it's fugly! Those big ugly squares, rediculous use of real estate...absolutely awful...

Who cares if it has fancy transisiton effects....this is an epic fail by Microsoft.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fortunz:
Lots of people care about fancy transition effects. Sadly. :rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiks19018:
A mobile device is used when you are mobile......

When you are mobile i.e. walking, driving your eyes are not focussed for reading tiny letters or pictures. You are essentially handicapped.

When you are handicapped, you need large buttons, large icons that catch your attention immediately.

Got it?

Transitions? that would be best if they make it optional.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fortunz:
So the 7series market consists of idiots who are browsing facebook while driving? Figures.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtop:
i think its a great step up from wm6 and i'm considering switching back to wm from my nexus one
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_scotsman:
lol!

It's a sad state of afffairs when HTC can design a better user interface than Microsoft (Manila vs WM7...no comparison).

It's plain horrid.

If you want to read easier, go buy an iPad....look at the iPhone...it doesn't need huge fonts or big ugly squares to make it user friendly...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Makk:
trust me guys the TOUCHEXPERIENCE UI looks more promising than winmo7.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jokes On You:
What would trump transitions is just pure power. Nothing can replace that.

LMAO!!!! I think this will become my new signature if thats ok with you.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiks19018:
Sadly...yes.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiks19018:
iPhone has BIG buttons.

Now MS had to to something different. So they came up with HUGE Letters :D

Now nobody can say that MS copied apple.

Right?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fortunz:
Go wild. :)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiks19018:
Maybe this will also become famous...in time
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
COmment....hhmmmm....is "I WANT IT ON MY PHONE" enough...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ovale:
I Love it ,

its original, fresh and fun.

They still need to show how it handle folders/files, i Hope its not like iPhone's. Hopefully its not change much like we use to with old winmo6.*
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tim.Smith:
Really? How is this an EPIC fail? Because you don't like something then it sucks and shouldn't be done? I wasn't aware you were in charge of all of us and what we like and use.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_scotsman:
I was stating my opinion, which I have a right to do...I didn't say you had to hate it too.....geez....these threads really bring....oh never mind.

Why do yuo feel you have to defend it? Because it's YOUR opinion....
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_scotsman:
EDIT: double post
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhyBe:
+1

I agree. I like that they make the homescreen have really huge targets that are easy to hit. In the real world, I am doing other things than just standing still, hovered over my smartphone screen aiming at little icons. I want to be able to operate it one-handed while perfoming other tasks too.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
I quite agree. Just because some1 doesent like it, the rest of us are supposed to agree?? Surely not. Also, in a long run you will know how useful the BIG alphabets and numbers are useful...overall it is great and I love it. Some one doesn't that's their problem.

Leave these bunch of iPhone and Apple fanatics alone, they are the updated version of Jihad...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] insaint:
I'm not voting cause none of the votes reflect my opinion.

I love it - I hate it!

It's bigest advantage is it's bigest shortcoming. It's the greatest thing ever, but it is all new and completely different. Maybe too much. It's like Microsoft threw away the baby with the water.

It is an multitasking OS, but the interface isn't. I hope though that Microsoft would come around and give us some kind of "traditional" app model API.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_scotsman:
I'll repeat myself...WHERE did I say everyone has to agree with me????

I said it is an epic fail, because in my opinion it is...I didn't say anywhere that you have to agree with me....:rolleyes:

Oh and for the record, I hate Apple, so no, I'm not an iPhone or Apple fanatic...I'm a Microsoft fanatic, but simply stating that i think the first impressions of WM7 are rediculous.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
^ I will be honest with you, the video I saw on Utube, the interface is just NEW, NOT fast. the guy had to touch it like a zillion times to go from home to Music, but lets wait and watch. I know you didn't say we have to agree with you, but you know, its disheartening to see such crude reviews about something so new. You know about it as much as I do, lets wait, lets watch, keep yourself open to it. If I dont like it, I wil also say I hate it, but not without trying it.

So, no offense meant and apologies if I was rude o anything.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geezay:
The "new concept" of being data focussed instead of application/function focussed as it has been described is not a departure from what HTC have already done with Sense. For example, if you go to Contacts in Sense, you see all your communications, Facebook, access to albums in Facebook, so it is not that groundbreaking for me.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fards:
Tom Warren pretty much sums it up for me (except teh iphmoan bit at the bottom)

http://www.neowin.net/news/ex-microsoft-employee-compares-windows-phone-7-to-vista
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geezay:
Totally agree, especially the part "Maybe too much". If multi tasking is gone as we know and love it, I see people holding on to Windows Mobile 6.5.x for a long time to come, even after the launch of "Windows Phone 7 Series" until they have sorted themselves out.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] henrik.dk:
honeycomb is another way of copy .... M$ really sucks
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] henrik.dk:
nope. The only thing I would like to do while driving is to push a bluetooth buttton and accept the incoming call. I won't move my focus from traffic

to the phone.

Apple sells the phone, so UI matters.

M$ sells the OS, why UI matters.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sub69:
As long as what we've seen is a new front-end to replace the need for things like Sense, I'm all for it.

I've seen nothing beyond the pretty UI though, so I'll reserve judgment until I see what can be done with third-party apps, games, tweaks, and utilities.

As someone who likes customisation and plenty of options available to me, if WP7S turns out to be too restrictive, then I'll be off to Android.

One thing's for sure though - Microsoft's market share is only going to go in one direction now that they've decided to focus on the average consumer. Just remains to be seen whether they've abandoned their long suffering and loyal WinMo userbase...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smoker46:
after all there's one big problem!

this interface is internet oriented, facebook, bing...ecc....

but for example in Italy (where I am) there isn't wimax or wifi all over the city and the internet connection for phone aren't cheap at all!!!

so how can i use this UI???

i heve to spend more money for the internet connection than the price of the phone!!!:eek:
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
you nailed it bro!!Same here in India...so lets wait and watch for our other options we are presented with!!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SonicFlare:
I have a faith, that if something was left behind, xda folks will patch it a little bit and rom chiefs will offer a great cooked OS ;)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahenmakk:
TRUE. And the point we forgetting here is that the OS is not complete. i doubt its even 50% complete. alot is under works. and when 6.5 was out and wat it is actually now, there is alot of difference. MS will take in reviews and make some changes for sure. but what we saw is i believe still incomplete.

And its true that such social networking or wireless net is not yet a small thin in india. it'll take alot of time.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smoker46:
the only thing we have to do is wait!

and one little thing the hardware that requered is really big!!

1ghz processor

512 ram/rom

...I think that the os is very very heavy!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
I mean comon, If Android needs a Snapdragon, WTH will WIn7 NOT need it too..but im a lil saddened by this fact...i want it on my X1 :(
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mithrandir007:
One good news coming from the twitter feed :http://twitter.com/search?q=#wp7qa

Someone asked this and the answer was yes :

"What about customizations like multiple desktops, accessing registry and stuff"

I guess we'll still be able to customize quite a bit then.. hopefully
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
cant understand shyt on Twtter....can u plz tel me what the Good News is...

oh ok, got it...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JimmyN:
Pulling everything together from the web into the hubs is good, but I would like to see more customization options, OK these hubs do do away with certain applications but lock you in to Microsoft's way of thinking.

The diversity and availability of applications will be the deciding factor for the success of Windows Phone Seven
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cez10:
i dont like the new system at all. it looks a bit childish aimed at those sad people who cant make a day thru goin on facebook, twitter etc telling everyone there how fun was it to go to a shop n buy a pack of fags. lots of space wasted on the screen, the icons are massive and sometimes its hard to guess if a text is a button or a title or maybe a tab etc etc. it looks so simple its actually confusing. at the moment i cannot see myself upgrading from 6.5 to 7 even if i got paid lets say 50quid
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joker2206:
Hahahaa. Comment No.1 !
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmbillings:
I voted for "It's ok".

Looks pretty but if, like me, you don't spend your life on facebook or twitter etc, I dunno how much use a lot of it will be.

Combine that with existing 3rd part apps not working any more and so on, and I'm not yet sure it's for me. If you can't install your own apps without going via the marketplace then it's all getting very apple-controlled, and it's exactly those reasons I've not got an iPhone... so we'll have to see what comes out over the next few months.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomickarma:
I think WP7S represents a sea-change in the whole mobile industry - RIM are effectively out of the game, while Apple have dropped the ball wasting time on the iTray when they could have been overhauling their usable, attractive but imperfect UI.

If this UI fails - based on what we've seen so far - it will be down to a change in policy on hardware spec or useless bolt on packages from carriers than anything that is wrong with the Windows Mobile of the future.

I have to say, I'm baffled at some of the negative remarks.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leeuwtjevanjuda:
WP7 supports 3th parthy apps. Newsreport on a dutch site "tweakers.net".

I voted for I love it, I really liked the new Ui. The extra support for twitter and facebook is nice. You wont have to use it, so nothing bad about it. Only thing is that facebook isnt big here in Holland, Hyves.nl is very popular here, It almost has no use here.

My biggest worry only is how open the OS is. What I really didn't like on the Iphone are the boundaries everywhere, you cant get here, you cant get there.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fortunz:
I smell signs of increasing control as well. Watch the 22 minute Foy video and they're using the language of controlling the user experience and branding better, two big danger signs for those of us who prefer to control our own experience. We will have to wait and see how far it goes.

As far as 3rd party apps go, by the time everyone rebuilds their stuff for 7series (leaving behind a ton of useful abandonware), Android will be in at least as good if not a better library depth position. A big factor that got me into winmo in the first place (transitioned from old Palm garnet 3 months ago) was the library depth.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pg2005:
It seems to me that nothing has changed in windwos phone 7. They are far away from other present phones (maybe after a hundred updates :D ).

They present just rubbish.

Sorry to say that, but I expected a lot more in 2010 Windows Phone 7 !!!

Just want to say something about windows mobile, I started with an HTC Artemis and I have had an HTC Blackstone, the missing bit was allways that nothing really worked, i spended ages at the computer and at the phone. Now I own an iPhone and anything works fine. I have more time for my wife and my kids now. No more mucking around with anything because it workes !!! And that is the BIG different for me. PS: I am not paid by apple, it was my own experience.