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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
I don't insist on getting it wrong, I wanted someone to explain to me like sirphunkee did the situation. I did not want to be belittled publicly by you. There is a big difference in how the information was presented, which in turn affects how other people view and absorb it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
But you did get it wrong !

Anyway, I refer you to post #7 in this thread

"It works like a radio, the data is sent by a number of satellites. The receiver picks up the data and triangulates your position.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System#Basic_concept_of_GPS

The maps don't have to come via a mobile data connection, they can be stored on your device. You know - SatNav !"

How clear would you like it ?

Only trying to help
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sirphunkee:
Dude, it's not your message, it's your delivery.

Here...try this:

"Actually, while some GPS apps do require a data connection, sat-nav and many other apps don't...they just have the data they need stored locally. So, the OP could still get use out of his GPS w/o a data connection, as long as he uses the right app(s)"

See...? It cleared the point up (your stated purpose), without the disrespectful tone. Regardless of how you percieve the person, there's ways you talk to strangers in public forums...and ways you don't.

Since you're so fond of Google, here's two for you to look up:

"tact"

"couth"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
I think it's more important to get the facts right, my friend.

What do we want here ? A board full of people telling each other things that aren't true or a source of information ?

I use Google all the time to search for answers to problems that I encounter in various situations. It's not good to repeatedly read page after page of threads from random forums only to get to the end and have no conclusion. I would much rather have the truth quickly and concisely than a bunch of people commenting about things they know nothing about. No matter how it's delivered. How about you ?

PS I'm glad you've now figured out what ROM stands for lol :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sirphunkee:
Nobody said getting the facts right had to suffer in the name of common decency...or are you saying you're incapable of being correct and civil?

You imply that you treat others this way because you see no reason not to...but to what end? Who does it benefit?

We're not asking you to abandon your grand quest for truth, light and clarity...just to not devalue the same populace you seek to serve so nobly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
I was trying to make sure that the person who posted originally got the message and was in no way trying to degrade that person.

In fact I'd also like to point that person towards the following thread :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=524655

It has some useful GPS tweaks. However it's also a sticky and so I'd like to suggest that answers to questions should be searched for first. It's very unlikely, esp with a device that's been about over 6 months like this one has, that you'll be the first to encounter any problem or situation. Otherwise we end up with thread after thread discussing the same thing over and over. And what good is that ?

Not that long ago I went on thread after thread showing people that mobilespeedtest.com gives erroneous results. It was unbelievable. Lots of people were being lead to believe total rubbish. There was thread after thread of this rubbish.

What is there to be gained getting things wrong ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] keno7777:
Sorry guys I didn't mean this to be a debate. Thanks dik23. I will take a look at the following thread.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iridium21:
Well that's a surprise!

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13129
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] can6rxw:
Yeah...I wonder what little surprises they'll have for us. I myself hand bought at least two versions of their previous SPB mobiles but lately have not used any. Got tired of the same old tired look.

I'm looking for re-vamp!!! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Enricosteph:
Hy!

Realy nice......i love SPB Mobile Shell but i hope this is the first version wich works on Non-Touchscreen-Devices because now i have an S740......

On the Homepage they write "Multiplattform" for Smartphones so i hope the best....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dragon Master:
I would not count on it...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iridium21:
It looks like a pile of crap :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4GTzkpDDjg
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ren13B:
What video were you watching? Looks a lot like 3.5 with more eye candy.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iridium21:
That's the problem! It just looks like 3.5 (which I hate the look of) with plastic tits :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] anonymous1:
Looks like useless, memory hungry eye candy to me.

I have version 3.5 (using this customization: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=604146) at the moment and can say I have never used the 'carousel'.

SPB have been ignoring all the great ideas for widgets on their forum, a call for SPB Diary and Phone Suite to be made compatible for WM6.5 to concentrate on creating this?!

Oh well, down they go in a lot of people's opinions.

*sarcastic tone* well done SPB!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] clickclickpc:
SPB MS 5 Release Date

Anyone confirm when SPB MS 5 will be released? I've heard Q2 or Q3 this year. Wanted to give it a try to see if it's worth the hype.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] optyqus:
Why do you see Mobile Shell 5 as such a big deal? Except that 3d good looking carousel which is just for effect it doesn't seem to bring other significant upgrades... and I must say that the carousel is almost useless ( I rarely used it in the 3.5 version).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dioadi:
i bet it there won't be a significant change as the previous version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] slimslim:
There's no news of being available yet. Not even beta.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xaccers:
I have to say I'm rather happy with 3.5, it uses less memory than TF3D did too.

I even use the carousel.

I find it a slightly better interface than TF3D, but having said that TF3D was the best interface I'd used up until I tried SPB shell, and if I'd had a non-TF3D phone I'd have tried SPB shell much sooner!.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RicarduZonta:
youtube.com/watch?v=FipjFT_kv-M

What do you think about this?

I think its awesome.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iridium21:
You can't polish a turd... :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] imaudi5000:
anyone have a release date for MS 5 yet?

i used a trial of 3.5 on my touch pro2 and really liked the quick and easy access to everything. iv tried other free 'shells' and 'launchers' or whatever you wanna call them but there is always something wrong. even ms 3.5 didnt work quite right in landscape mode (it scattered all the widgets around to random spots) hopefully this will be fixed in version 5.

p.s. mythbusters proved that you can polish a turd :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] donnaw:
It's not out yet. Later this year. As for the scattering of the widgets in landscape - if you arrange them again while in landscape mode they will stay put. In other words you have to set an arrangement for both. Hope this helps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] imaudi5000:
ahh thats kinda lame, i wish they would put somethin on their website. and yea that makes sense as far as organizing the widgets, i had to do that for another program
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] prankstarr:
How does SPB Shell work guys - if you load it onto your windows device, does it delete all settings (just like flashing a new ROM)? I use sprite to backup which works well when going from one ROM to a similar one ie NRGZ ROM's but i want to know if trying out an SPB Shell will require me to load all settings again...

Okay - I see that it appears to be just a CAB so this question is resolved...

Any news on when 5.0 will be out?

Also, how do the guys running 3.5.3 / 3.5.5 find the battery life? Cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LordVarkson:
Wait what happened to MS4? I'm guessing 3.5 is referred to as 4.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RedRamage:
The number 4 is unlucky in the east Asian. I forget which language... Chinese? Japanese, both? Anyway, in one (or more) of the languages the word for the number 4 sounds extremely close to the word for death. For that reason often '4' will be skipped in various things.

For instance, going a bit old school, but there was the Palm Pilot (Palm 1), then the Palm Pilot Pro (Palm 2), then the Palm III. Next device was the Palm V.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PoisonWolf:
In Cantonese, 4 sounds exactly like the word death.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LordVarkson:
Wow ok I read about the number 4 the other day, but for some reason I always saw SPB as European for some reason.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobaka:
european yes... as in St. Petersburg.. as in Russia
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Willuknight:
Mobileshell is really nice, only after you install mobile sense though. Before that, it looks pretty average. I'm really disapointed SPB don't have a whole bunch of extra widgets on their site users can download.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lpaggioli:
When?????

Does anyone know when version 5 will be released?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] olyloh6696:
yes when?, its been awhile since there has been any news on this. wp7 is due in 2 months time. spb are going to have to release this before the arrival of wp7.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ewok666:
SPB have lost the plot completely. Announcing a product 6 months ago with total BS like "SPB Mobile Shell 5.0 Arrives" and "February 15th, 2010 – SPB Software, a leading mobile applications and games developer announces the release of SPB Mobile Shell 5.0".

Is their forum still alive or did they have to close it due to people asking where the hell this Mobile Shell 5.0 actually is? Talk about vapourware!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geronemo:
Couldn't agree more, it will be 7 months now since the announcement.

I think there are double minded now as many users will move on to WinPhone 7.

They should release it now or never.

I have an HD2 and can use it, but i seriously dont see the point of having MS on android because they already have the same 5 screen etc layout.

The only market left 2 months from now for them will be Symbian.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xmarkom:
I still google once a week to find some news about 5.0 "arrival" but nothing happened so far...

:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] icutzo:
Go check the press release of SPB site.... 5.0 has been rolled out TODAY to carriers...

:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geronemo:
i hope they release one for consumers soon ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] coltsta:
watch this and it will show you how good it looks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNO7lL7g6pc&feature=player_embedded
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xaccers:
ok I'm drooling.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tigermoto:
Looks good

Me too,

The press release made it look like a skinned 3.5.5, now i can see it's much more than that. Waiting impatiently
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] coltsta:
yeah i found that video on youtube and i was like WOWW!! cant wait for this to come out looks soo good they have kind of combined iphone details with windows and android all in 1 UI which i think is pretty cool cant wait!!

unfortunately still until now i cant find a release date for it but what im hoping for not to happen is that i think there not going to release it separately i think the only way to have it is to buy a phone that comes with it already cooked into the phone. fingers cross they release a stand alone version of it :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xaccers:
Considering how much money the standalone 3.5 has made them, unless they've infringed patents and part of the "please don't sue us" agreement forces otherwise, they won't be able to make anywhere near as much money by only allowing manufacturers to release it on phones.

The savings for companies to adopt it are potentially huge.

Imagine the manuals for every smart phone across your range being pretty much the same. There's also the advantage of buying a cheap off the shelf popular interface which will make your phones look great, than having to develope your own interface, especially if you want it across platforms.

They're going to give manufacturers the headstart because it pays for a large chunk of the developement and marketting costs.

It won't be an iPhone killer, apple will just release new updates to do any popular features, but I reckon it will hammer WP7 sales.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 666Duvel666:
after watching the new video at youtube, couldn't see the 3D effect that i saw in the announcement movie... the 3D effect that affects all today icons and widgets when you tilt the phone to left or right...

supose that its an non implemented feature i guess... :(:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sp1tfire:
Wow, they definetely made lots of changes since 3.5.5. The first demo videos we saw about SPB 5 were presenting just a slightly modified 3.5.5. Totally gonna buy SPB 5 when they launch it for the public customers :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] muamers:
I hear (from an insider) that the relase date of the MS 4 customers will start 22.11.00 ... nice looking date and they use it ... cant wait :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hungry81:
Wait!! Spb MS 4 includes a time machine?

Ummmmmmm hang on!!! there is an SBP mobile shell 4?

I think you need to get a new informant.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] korakesion:
So your insider is not trustfull!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sas69:
It's pretty possible for the informant to be trustworthy. As the man said the release date may be 22-november-2100 :D :D :D it's less than 90 years from now so the developers will have enough time to create a better app :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] olyloh6696:
Spb shell now available android(only) beta

Go on the spb website, they are looking for beta testers... unfortunately, they havent announced any plans for WM :'( hopefully they will a bit later!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] athe_s:
is it work for 96 dpi..

i am using samsung sgh-i780 with 96 dpi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RicoATT:
Its the first month of 1Q2011 . Has Spb5 been released? (yes i am behind time)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigfood:
net jet :( we are still waiting i think.

i would like to get a beta for my galaxy tab^^
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cipri pop:
Look at the video on the site to convince your self..there are big diferences, but look at it on spb.com...you'll see it's pretty nice.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] olyloh6696:
I dont think ilthey will release it for WM anymore :( It has been a WHOLE YEAR since they first announced it at last years MWC. I would defo install this on my galaxy tab and OSF, but it is kind of pointless as the Android doesn't really need spb. It will be much more useful on WM. My TG01 should be able to run it flawlessly with 1GHz CPU power. I hope its not memory hungry though. J really hope they release it for WM...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rbastos:
spb mobile shell v5.0

Does anyone know when version 5 will be released?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spl4tt:
wow, there are still ppl who care about spb mobile shell...

im sry but spb is a bit too late with ms5.... >.<
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xaccers:
Of course there are.

MS is a vast improvement over the native droid interface and sense.

I just wish they'd ported 3.5 over in the meantime.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrXLR8:
Any one know whats new will be there?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geronemo:
probably never as WM 6.5 is already dead.

1 yr ago on android would have made sense but now ADW and Launcher Pro and others like it do the same job.

Symbian is also not doing great either.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] billerbong:
I do not see this coming out for windows mobile 6.5 either.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spl4tt:
exactly what i thought..

im never gonna ditch my launcher pro plus for ms5 :/

spb missed the time..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xaccers:
Launcher Pro plus is nothing like as good as MS.

Thankfully it was only £2 that I wasted LPP.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spl4tt:
i guess those bucks are more for donation than for something useful xD

but still, ms5 wont beat lpp i guess..

i used ms3.5 on winmo, and i loved it, but only cause there wasnt anything else that good...

on android, there is...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xaccers:
Please tell me what?

I've been searching for something as good as MS3.5 for android and found nothing that comes close :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spl4tt:
seems like a matter of taste :P

ill stick to lpp.. when ms5 gets released im probably gonna buy it, just to get the old feeling back for a time..

like i said, ms is awsome, but i guess it wont beat lpp for me
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ruenigma:
Got SM 5 for android from the wild. It is have some compatibility issues. But overall a resource hog (memory and battery both). May it is because I got a beta version.

Apart from these, it is not adding anything extra ordinary than the other android launchers on the block. I use ADW-Ex and not planning to switch anytime soon. It is not a game changer on Android as it used to be on WM 6.5.

Only differentiator observed so far is the carousel. Its fun for a while but that's it. Yes, I mean that's the end of the story.

Disappointed :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jalabert:
spb shell was nice for symbian :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mallman:
I dont necessarily disagree with you yet but #1 it is beta and #2 it is beta :) I want to see a final product because right now you cant add any spd specific stuff unless im just not seeing it somewhere.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fixxxer667:
Anyone running SPB 5 on higher end Android devices?

eg. HTC Desire HD, Evo 4g, Galaxy S, Nexus S...

The videos from the 2010 MWC were disappointingly laggy, but the 2011 vids on the DHD showed some promise.. Still, personal opinion and actual use are what matters, not only regarding smoothness of the environment, but the practicality of it as well..

Also, from what I gathered, the SPB environment is modular, but that bit is unavailable for Android yet?

What about beta signups? I did fire one up, but I haven't even received an acknowledgement mail for the beta application, so I'm cautiously optimistic for a reply..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dirk:
It's not for me but i must say that this is looking very good! Loving the animations and '3D' effects.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fettoni:
Spb Shell 5 for Android

I found online this Spb Mobile Shell 5.apk for Android

In my Galaxy S (Froyo 2.2) works fine.

Only problem requires activation confirmation at each reboot.

For those who want to try.

Ho trovato in rete questo Spb Mobile Shell 5.apk per Android

Nel mio Galaxy S (Froyo 2.2)funziona benissimo.

Unico problema richiede conferma di attivazione ad ogni riavvio.

Per chi lo vuol provare.

Sorry for Engl.

Sorry (risk banned) removed the link.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geronemo:
I think this is what you are looking for:

http://pocketnow.com/android/spb-mobile-shell-50-for-android-first-look-video
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geronemo:
In general guys i think SPB lost 1 whole cycle, i mean think about it 2010 was the year when Android really hit the roof and they were showing off at CES and talking about carrier or manufacture support etc.

If they would have been out then they would have ruled the android market with MS 5.0

They remind me of WM7 because WM7 is also late to the game which means you have to work that much harder to be in the competition.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geronemo:
Well the $ add up and the app can cater to everyone using the phone everywhere.

That's that best marketing on mobile platform these days.

Remember back in the days when WM 6.5 was in full glory apps use to cost around $20-30 bucks and a lot of ppl. would just used them illegally because they were essential and unfordable.

Now the business model has changed and it makes more sense less price and more appeal.

I would pay for Launcher Pro just for resizing the widget option.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spl4tt:
oh ****, i totaly forgot that that resizing thing is only in lp plus >.<

i couldnt live without that >.<
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] takato23:
in my vibrant moves really fast. The only thing is that i don't see any 3D effect (like the world of newspaper). I guess it is because is a beta
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] syrenz:
Yeah, I tried it out the other day and have the same feelings as you. Initially, I was like "WOW, THIS IS COOL.", but then I was like, "Meh doesn't seem to add anything that great." It would be insane if they put up a price tag like the Windows Mobile version ($30 or so). Stopped using it because I had some issues with it working properly and really drains battery.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheAndroider:
This is awesome.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kurk_droog:
It looks great but i don't know if this launcher works for me. I think i just gonna give it a try.. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beduzzaholic:
not working on my optimus one..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scott.eden:
Hi Guys

I am currently using SPB Mobile Shell 5 on my samsung galaxy s, I must admit this is working brilliantly, no lag , no draning battery, and the interface looks awesome and this is still in beta , cant wait for the full release..

better then htc sense, more flexable , widgets are better aswell
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] olyloh6696:
Its A BEAUTY running on my 7inch GALAXY TAB!!

The 3D carousel is just breath takingly amzing on the large screen. I only used it for about 10 minutes than uninstalled it because it was messing up my tab. But i highly anticipate the official release of it!

AS great as it is on android. I REALLY REALLY hope they release it for WM. Android is already good anough as it is. WM needs it. When are they goig to releease it for WM??? I will buy it straight away for my TG01.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Csierra72:
Just installed it on my Evo. Now to go play and see what the hype is about.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geronemo:
where are you guys all getting it from?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iridium21:
I've just Googled and found this thread:-

http://getandroidstuff.com/spb-mobile-shell-android-50-home-replacement-app-hits-beta-sign/

In the comments there's a link to Mediafire download.

BUT, from what I've heard, it's a very early beta and does not represent how the current beta looks and behaves, so it's a waste of time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geronemo:
awesome downloading it now, have been waiting for the since Feb. 2010 and still it's in beta, will try it tonight and report back :)

thanks alot.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fresh & Minty:
I just downloaded it and installed it successfully on my Atrix, but it says my device isn't compatible when I go to activate it. What's the problem here.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] geronemo:
I got the same problem on my hd2 running froyo 2.2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] FrameCityJackal:
runs good on the epic but umm not impressed....

Very vague I know but I'm not digging it much
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iridium21:
I agree. From what I've seen of this beta, it looks horrible :( But, remember, this is a very early beta and supposedly it's changed a lot.

I'd like to see a recent beta.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Vladimirus:
Anonymous1...this is the first time I've seen that customization you're referring to that you say your currently using. I notice it said it "partly" fixed a memory leak issue. Have you had any trouble with that? And if so, what kind of memory issue is it causing? I like the look of it and am contemplating it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] olyloh6696:
is it warez to post links on this? :S
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spl4tt:
i dont think so, cause its beta...

Sent from my HD2.