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[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] bizmark03:
I'm just thinking...if they made a WP7 like interface to run on top of WinMo6.5, something like what HTC Sense is...that would be like the best of both worlds. I'm using a HTC HD2 and I like what i see, but i still dont want to let go of the accessible file system, cab installation, customization etc
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] HazzBazz:
There are a couple of versions on morph I think...but it's really not as simple as you think. Getting it to run smooth will be hard, and whether microsoft will see it in a good light is another matter. Im pretty cool with supporting the porting process with Da_g and see how the theming scene goes.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
And the good thing about WP7 is that a lot of it was developed in XAML and the files are just sitting there in plain text. You should be able to just modify them and by doing so customize the interface. Of course this is assuming your phone is hacked/unlocked.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sschrupp:
Is it just me or does the interface look so... flat? I mean there's no texture in those pictures. Just a bunch of flat squares like you're looking at someone's Myspace page.

I appreciate that some people like simplistic interfaces, but I hope there will be more options and variations on how the UI looks.

Maybe I'm just too old-school or something, but I like outlines, buttons, and some 3D-ish textures to interact with.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Shub-Niggurath:
From what I recall, XAML is complied into the assembly dll (inside the xap). Thats certainly how vs2010 outputs things. Thats not to say you couldn't use reflector on the dll and get the xaml back. It would require a recompile in any case - so only really good for rom chefs as I can't see you being able to overwrite a system dll on a running os!

Im going to a WP7 developer conference on Tuesday, if anyone wants me to ask anything (apart from the obvious)...
[HD2 General] SreePillai:
just switched to WMD Centre from ActivSync..due to an OS upgrade now for some reason i cant see the windows folder on my device, everything was working fine on activsync..i have tried various folder options..still no luck

all help is appreciated.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
Thats down to the windows OS not WMDC.

open the windows folder, (or indeed any folder anywhere), press alt-T to bring up the tools menu, choose folder options. Jump to view tab, and untick hide protected operating system files, and tick show hiddem files and folders.

Also, i recommend unticking 'hide exentensions for know filetypes' if it's ticked.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ManuelLemke:
Hello to All!

I started some Workshop about Future of Mobile Windows Devices for

- Interface and OS and

- Hardware-Sugegstions

and i want to invite all of you to be Part of this and add your Concepts, Comments and Ideas.

In my Powerpoint-Presentation i worked out some Concept for A 3D-Interface for Explorer, Messaging, Filereader and some Applications-Manager (instead of A Homescreen). Here is the Link, this is about 20MB, because i put in A Lot of Screenshots and Sketches of my Idea.

Within this, you can overview everything on the first View - and there you find Illustrations of an animated graphical 3D-Interface for easy exploring with Thumbnails of everything that is running.

My Idea includes A Concept for making Sessions of what you are doing (opened Programms, Web-Sessions, Multimedia-Sessions, Sessions for Volume, -for Settings, so that you can share whole Devices at once, ...).

Everything is presented to you in horizontal-moving Rings with Icons Rows and Thumbnails of Folders-Content:

You can preview the Content of A Folder in Background-Icons (Levels) as Thumbnails when you hold your Finger on an Icon,

Menus and Settings and Explorer+ Readers are sorted and put together in 1 Interface - that is my Vision for Windows-Phone 7 Series and later Versions.

-Within the Apps-Manager you watch:

I also want to share with you my Idea of revolutionary Hardware-Features for Windows-Devices and how that could be realized.

Please feel free to let me know your Thoughts for some animated Interface and let's talk about your Suggestions for Future of Windows-Mobile Devices (-Should Win. be more the Way of MP3-Player or of A Tablet-PC?) and please publish Illustrations of your Thoughts and Concepts here, also Comments of the new MS Phone-Concept.

"Let's create Future" ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ytsejam_:
nice job! i really liked the idea.. it's about time that somebody steps up and present a library or an idea compendium of some sort to make things uniform on most apps that comes out of XDA-DEV.. i'll subrscribe to this thread and hope it'll grow and get the attention of our dear developers..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ashupulse:
great idea....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Badwolve1:
Nice work, it will be a nightmare to code though :P

good luck

Badwolve1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ManuelLemke:
Design Concept for HTC Business-Edition PDA

- Clear Lines, practical Functions

- latest Technology for Work and Entertainment

- Multi-Speakers

- Multi m.SD and Sim-Card-Drives.

- Looking simple, Buttons are involved in the Device, like HTC Touch Pro 1 but the Symbols are made of pure Chrome.

- Material: black Glass-Surface in one Peace of black Glass all around, you can see the Inside of the Chips, CPU, ...

- Not removable 4.100 mAh Power-Battery. With kinetic self-loading Cells by Shaking, like in some Watches.

- Storage: RAM is 2 GiGs, CPU is 1,8 GHZ with Dualcore, inside 3D-Graphical Device.

- Antenna: Active-Antenna, that creates A stereo Stream with 2 Poles, 16 Times more faster than HSDPA-Signal and measures the Difference of Outer-Influences - so it detects Signals not analog, directly, it calculates it digital from indirect Signals and filters Disturbs. So it creates some Shield that can be influenced - so the Range is Increased.

- This Device can stand on A Table, for watching TV and DVBT, Internet-TV, ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Badwolve1:
THOSE ARE LAPTOP SPECS!!!!

Though, i wouldn't mind having them in a phone :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] frankie13:
why wont the vario 2 play internet radio stations that use the format wma 32kbps
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] frankie13:
i thought it was a tough one:eek:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Rudegar:
more more more info

do it play other rates?

do it play other internet radio sources ?

is it over wifi?

it it over 3g?

what streaming program?

what browser?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] billythetidd:
Try using Mundu Radio, it's a really good bit of software that enables you to listen to internet radio on you windows mobile.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] frankie13:
thank you ihave changed to vario 2 all fine now
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] johnlujl123:
Hi All,

It's all great to hear Microsoft officially announces the "Windows Phone 7 Series". Another Mobile OS, put there to compete with other OS's.

But I want to know one thing =>

Am I the only one that find the general UI of "Windows Phone 7" unattractive, "nothing special" and bore-some?

The moment I saw the "Start screen", I said to myself: "Damn, is this the UI Microsoft wanna use to show its competitiveness to other OS's??? ". From my point of view, the look of winmo 6.5.3 on the freshly announced HTC HD mini is WAY BETTER than that of Windows Phone 7.

This is just my opinion, now, what's your opinion about the UI?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] circleofomega:
I would disagree. I like the visuals. On the contrary, the look is NEW and NOT FAST!!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] krjcook:
Everyone has there opinions and taste. I honestly love what MS has done with the revisions. I think visuals are truly innovative and elegant. The animations are uncanny. I do agree the home screen is dull and boring, but the rest of the OS is vibrant. Here's some screen shots from my post. Head over to my post to see the rest, there's like 20 more photos...: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=634429
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] derliebewolf:
I do like it as well...looks fresh but whether it is good to use on a daily basis remains to be prooven!

And BTW: the look of the new SenseUI Builds really annoys me! til Version 2.1 everything was fine...but the new ones??? No way.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] freyberry:
I won't talk about looks here, because that's personal taste.

Moreover, what counts is functionality - how easy and fast it gets the job done.

This is easily and by far the best and most well thought through UI I've ever seen.

I particularly like

- the ability to pin pretty much everything to the first page (but unlike Sense, as many things as you want), whether it's contacts, programs or whatever

- the things you pin to the first page not being static, but also showing information - a very clever way to bring together the iPhone's icon-based home screen with Windows Mobile's information based home screen.

- the navigation through the pages, with the text on top going out of the screen to show you that there's more you can discover by swiping left/right

- the panorama backgrounds on all the screens (cover arts in music, a random picture in photos etc.)

- the ability for third party developers to integrate their stuff (like additional social networks or streaming services) into the hubs (I hope there will be a lot of freedom for third parties to do so!).

- the seamless integration of all kinds of services in general, whether it's Exchange, Windows Live (finally!!), Facebook...

I also particularly like that some good concepts from previous Windows Mobile versions have been preserved:

- long press menus

- softkeys

- quick search through any list (in WM6.5, it was the keyboard icon, now it's the required search button)

Those enable a consistent UI throughout all applications, contrary to the mess you find on the iPhone, where important buttons like "back" are in different places depending on the application you're in.

What I do NOT like:

- The all applications list: That should be a grid, cause there's lots of wasted space there.

- There seems to be no easy way to get to the music controls while music is playing in the background.

- Apparently there is no easy way to switch between running applications, this seems to work much like WM6.5, with the back button taking you to the application you used before. This is a mess, the back button should open some kind of task switcher instead.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] cortk:
I love the new start menu in Windows Phone 7. Titanium didn't display enough information on the home page, requiring you to hover over items to see information. Windows Mobile 6.1 today screens were too small to tap. Sense is either functional (icons for quick launching) or informational (clock), but never both at the same time. Why doesn't the launch icon for Messenger show me the latest messages I have? Why don't my contacts' icons show me the latest interaction I had with them?

Windows Phone 7 adds all of those in a simple, attractive UI. You can give a Windows Phone 7 to any person and they'd probably be able to use it, but give Sense to a person and they might not. (you might think the contrary... I thought Sense was easy to use, until I saw my peers struggle with it and typing on the keyboard... on a HD2...)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] johnlujl123:
Agree with you all!

Yes, you guys are right! Looks are personal taste! ;)

But right now, which OS would you choose, out of the following: Windows Phone 7, WebOS or Android?? My choice goes to Android! :D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] naplesbill:
I'm not sure how important the applications list is going to be going forward. With the way apps can integrate into the "hubs" I think you will not be using this list very often.

I'm hoping the music controls function like the ZuneHD. The ZuneHD has a dedicated media control button that brings up a screen overlay when pressed. This overlay allows you to pause/play, skip/fast forward/rewind and increase/decrease volume. Also, on the ZuneHD, you can pause and play a song by tapping the album art.

I am very eager to see how the multitasking works/doesn't work when they show the SDK at MIX next month.

Overall, I love the UI. It seems like an evolution of the ZuneHD to me.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pilgrim011:
Android, of course. WP7 is OS for feature phones (dumbphones) just like iPhone OS is.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] freyberry:
Android :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] naplesbill:
I actually have three upgrade eligibilities this year. If the rumor about the SE X10 coming to ATT is true, that will be one of them. I will also wait and see what Android phones HTC sends to ATT.

I will also, without any doubt, reserve one of the upgrades for WMP7. I had very low expectations for MS and WMP7 but I was very impressed with what they showed on Monday. I can't wait for MIX to see the rest.

Of course, I'm a phone whore so I am never completely satisfied anyway! :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Fa7my:
In my opinion I think the UI looks awesome. It's unique, fresh, new, & looks like nothing else (excluding the Zune HD). the start menu & the App list look a little bit dull but the whole Hubs system just looks wonderful. I like the new idea of the context menus. WinPho 7 is not evolution from the previous WM, it is Revolution.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gom99:
From a UI perspective I really like the thought behind it. It's pretty much a directory structure that's self organizing with a 'splash' screen for each directory. I have alot of applications stored on my wm device that I store over various folders. Directories are a good way of organizing sizable amounts of information. This UI is basically an improvement to that age old structure, putting some transparency on this structured yet intuitive setup.

It's visually impressive, yet does not have that bells and whistle feel that can get stale.

But I take objection to their comments that a phone is not a PC. That's the wrong message to send. A PC just stands for personal computer...you can't get more PC than a handheld device. It's clearly a PC, the message they should send is that it's not a desktop, it's not a laptop, it's a handheld device. While still a PC you expect a suitable UI to pair with each version of a PC you interact with.

From a marketing perspective, I think the windows phone 7 would mesh well with their 'I'm a PC' marketing campaign. A commercial seeing someone working on a desktop/laptop and then using mobile office, and exchange to take that to your phone would be a great commercial to make.

Microsoft is missing the picture with that overly simplistic comment.

If I could carry the power of my desktop with me, I would just need different display devices with the appropriate UI to interact with my PC. That's really the destiny of computers...well not even to carry the hardware, but to just have different methods of display and interaction with a single device. So you can sit down at a kb and mouse, or pick a up a multitouch display, or take a handheld on a train with you but still have common storage, and processing.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] chiks19018:
Great UI.

But I am not happy that it requires a minimum of 1GHz processor. Even then the graphics rendering especially the Album scrolling is not very fluid. That was very cleary observed in Joe's Demo considering that he hand only a handhul of pictures. My iphone has @3500 pictures and I can scroll through it like water flowing across the screen.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Rim1Flex:
This version of WP7 is not my favorite. I like the other betas:rolleyes:.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] naplesbill:
And this was a demo of pre-release software. I wouldn't put any weight behind the peformance that was shown in the demo. It will almost certainly be much improved before the RTM.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] chiks19018:
I definitely hope that is the case. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] freyberry:
How about "accidentally" uploading one for the HD2? :D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Rim1Flex:
It won't work it needs 2GHz processor. You will have to overclock,haha :D just kidding.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] housert:
My biggest concern with this new OS is the "need" to integrate with social networks. I'm by no means interested to see the status messages my friends/collegues post on facebook, twitter, linkedin, myspace etc. Also, WM7 is pointing towarsds xbox live integration, which will -as I understood- in basics also be used as a new "Microsoft hardware only" social network.

Another thing that bothers me about the new UI is that it looks slowish, even in a demo.. Doesn't look too appealing yet so far!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] alexleon:
I think wi7 it's still an alpha version.

the modality is good: all around hubs, it's how senseUI works from years.

I wait to see its usability...and to see some customization.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] core2cnc:
WP7

I dont like it... HTC Sense is the only UI i need...

Windows Phone 6.5 series is all i expectet from a windows Phone! Could be more stable and faster...and...thats it!

The IPhoneOS/nokia SymbianOS seem to be the better WindowsPhone 7 :D

...of course I have to see WindowsPhone7 in Action, but I cant imagene I´ll like it....
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] alexleon:
@core... I can agree...but we'r talkin only about UI and not about OS
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] johnlujl123:
Totally agree with this guy! In my opinion Symbian^3 looks more attractive than WP7! :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] burnblue:
It's beautiful, just like Zune.

My only complaint is that they can fit more stuff on the (big) screens at times. Eg. The Live Tiles being only 2 or 1 across when they could be 3 across. Only around 4 to 6 contacts fitting on the People screen. Stuff like that.

In terms of colors and what not, I do believe they'll polish it and make it shinier before launch.. add translucency and such like what happened to 6.5 last year. Nicer icons.

But the UI layout is great, the changing background imagery is great, if you've ever used anything Zune you'll know it's constantly delightful
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] SOULd OUT:
It's called Windows Phone 7 series right...

So since it's called "Windows Phone 7 Series" I get the impression that this is like the first of a couple of different looks.

Didn't we hear about several different types of Windows Phone 7? Like one for media, and such...

I dunno, back to the question though.

I really like the look of it. Simple as that.

I really like the simplicity of it, and the dead space of it. I'm a fan of the whole "less eye clutter is better" thing.

I have a Zune, and love it, so I think I have some sort of bias.;)

Obviously I want to see this in my hand before I make my final decision.

It just came out and everyone seems to be bashing it left and right...give it some time guys, and then make a decision.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] kb0n:
So we're about to see "WP7 Home", "WP7 Business" and "WP7 Premium"? :D

I still can't make an opinion about the interface. Very important aspects are not shown, like "what does it look like when writing SMS", "what do buttons/lists/checkboxes look like", "what's the settings menu like", "what does it look like when an (3rd party) app is running", etc. ...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Realmsea:
Put it this way...

I hated the iPhone UI because it's a sad excuse for being innovative to put everything on a single level. I detest desktop shortcuts, so you can imagine... it's like a desktop chock-ful of shortcuts.

I like the Sense UI (and similar) because it's a polish of the traditional today screen on windows mobile. It's like a well-skinned desktop with widgets... with a traditional Windows start bar - click on start to access everything under the hood.

I'm interested in the new WP7 UI because its a better rendition of the win6.5 today screen. It's like the windows taskbar that displays more information, or a desktop full of deeper widgets. Like the Office Ribbon, this UI seems more willing (than other designs) to take into context of what I'm doing and give access/infomation to what I likely need.

It's not revolutionary in my opinion, but its a lot more user centric than many of the UI's I've seen, so I'm attracted to give it a try.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Realmsea:
I suspect they don't want to create any misconceptions that the Windows Phone is meant to replace laptops.

However, I do think the UI would rock on a tablet, if it has multitasking support. :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] TopazUser1:
it looks great

i hope it has multi tasking

its much better than windows 6.5 tho

so im pleased that microsoft put some effort into there phone
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Jumbeaux:
In all honesty, I prefer the WinMo 6.5 Titanium screen as its cleaner. Its just a preference, just like I prefer my Win 7 desktop to be clean of shortcuts and folders; just beautiful wallpapers.

I also don't get it why MS is not using the full start screen for its panels. There's a huge amount of blank space on top and to the right with just a forward arrow. No symmetry.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] criminalogic:
***IMHO***

I think i may HATE WP7 And most likely NEVER buy or use Microapples new windows series..

Allthough it looks some what ok, and do like some of tha overall improvements - but tha draw backs and feature exclusions make me feel a Big Let Down from this...

Will need to see tha devices in action once releaced to make up my mind.. but this allmost makes me want to trash WM alltogether and jump to android... allthough 6.5 & 6.5.3 have me remaining loyal (But for how long?)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] addicus:
It will be awesome to use a system where the messaging isn't crappy.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] waffles666:
like the zune hd

to all those wondering about performance see if you can get your hands on a zune hd its mind blowing how fast it is and how the whole system works. if windows phone 7 is anything like it then performance won't be a problem just let them iron out the bugs. as far as liking it I think they just killed everything I enjoyed about winmo so I am like so many other people tossing up on what I will get next, android or 7.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Mort:
I just copy my blog comment...

On one site, there are good ideas, like the hubs which keep all things grouped quite fine. And dropping old **** might be a good thing as well.

But on the other hand, the flat and flashy look is terrible. It reminds me of old Geocity homepages. And clipped titles and menu items? Is MS serious?

Also, what about customization? What if that "super icon" doesn't show what I want? What if the most used part is the 4th page in the hub? Sorry, but I'd prefer something like Widgets, so I can get a contact list next to my favorite games, and dont have to step back, tap a "super icon" and swipe to the desired page. Though I wish for some "sub home screens" on Android as well, so some pages with (less often used) widgets/icons/links would be in some "sub menu"/"hub" instead of having to swipe over them.

Regarding multitasking, I love Android's concept. Apps that wait for input which they can't get or would update invisible components can be suspended without harm. I hope WP7 does something similar.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vangrieg:
Actually, you'll see more of that, it's the nascent design trend. Cute icons and faux 3D are passing.