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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Question on text messaging ...

I'm needing a little guidance on the way text messaging is working in this new 2.5 version. When I'm in a message thread between myself and someone else, I can't seem to exit out. There's no "X" to exit, and the Menu button can get me to ' All Messages', but if I select 'Back' or the 'X', it just takes me back to the message string I was on between me and the other person. I want to be able to exit the message string ... backing out to 'All Messages then backing to the Today screen or anywhere else on the phone, like it used to. Even when I hit the 'Start' icon, then 'Home' it doesn't take me out of the message string, it just stays there. I turned the phone off and back on. Not the best way to have to leave text messaging.

EDIT1: The same goes for the "People" tab ... how do you back out of that? I used it to make a call, and now I can't see how to back outback to the Today screen. As before, the 'Menu' soft key doesn't give you and option and there's no 'X' or 'Back' to take you out.

EDIT2: I just noticed the newer 3.8.1, so I'm going to install that one. But if this is the way messaging is handled in 2.5, I'll still likely need some guidance on how to exit a text string to get back to other functionality on the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yeah this is normal behavior for the HTC client. You have to move the slider to the left to get the Back button then you can use that to get out. Ive been trying forever to find a way to make the end button exit out of it.

If you want it to go back to the way 2.1 messaging was then follow the steps on the first page. Only thing you lose by doing it is the manila bubble showing how many texts you have unread. You still get the icon on top though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Thanks, Ryan! The help is greatly appreciated. I'll look for that 'slider' ...

I upgraded to 3.8.1 and noticed that 'Settings' is in a different location, now under 'Tools' instead up just under 'Start' as before. Also, the actual settings is now labeled 'HTC Settings' and it has no logo. Is this correct or should I flash to AT&T before the 3.8.1 (from 3.8)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
mine was in the right place i do have the htc setting in tools with no icon but it takes me to manila settings
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Mine's missing. And you're right, the one w/o the logo under Tools takes me to the Manila settings tab, and then I have to select the Menu soft key, then 'All Settings'. So you have the "Settings" (gears icon) under the 'Start' menu? Hmmm...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
something odd twice today my phone pad has desapiered only way to get it back is a soft reset any one else getting that in their dialer?>
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadh:
I had the same problem with the 2-22 3.8 build also. I also found soft reset to clear it up. Also re-flashed stock, flash 3.8, and HR; same random disappearing keypad within 10 minutes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 4bettilt2:
hey arrup flashed 3.8 then 3.8.1 ATT, liking it no problems with the dialer for me...but then I'm not pushing the envelope
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
2 days, NOT ONE problem

It's been two days now, using the thread you pointed me two. With the settings mentioned earlier, I've had not one freeze up, glitch or anything!

BT, call announce, custom ringtones are all working PERFECTLY on my BT.

I haven't played with manila yet, I'll be on the road this weekend, and will

switch it to manila after work and see how BT works on that. Just in the

2 days, I've had 20 or so emails, 30-40 text messages, around 300 minutes

of incoming & outgoing phone calls, surfed the web, ran some apps and everything is flat out flying!

Congrats, I think ya hit it out of the park!

Have a fantastic weekend! Don't know how much I'll be around. Heading to the folks. They want me to hook them up on facebook (which I don't really understand much myself). If you are like me, and have to be the "IT" guru for you family, do yourself a favor and use REMOTE DESKTOP! It will keep your hair color, and reduce the "gray" effect.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jola66:
That has happened once or twice to me as well. At first I thought it was of the B4all cab i installed. I dont think you always have to reset. Mine has gone back to normal with out resetting. Fortunately, it atleast doesnt happen too often.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Can't sync...

For the thrid time, I can't seem to xync. I have NEVER had this problem, so please help. I have reflashed the ATT ROM, then trying to flash the 3.8.1, but I can't get the ATT to connect to Activesync. No matter how may times I hard reset and try everything I know to try, it won't connect via Activesync. And you know that if it doesn't connect via Activesync, it won't allow you to launch a new ROM.. WTF?!?!?!?!

Sorry, but I'm getting VERY frustrated with MS at this point. It makes a non-Apple guy like me actually consider if I'd I've have as much trouble screwing around with Apple.

Sorry, just getting very frustrated. I MUST get back to a scenario where I can at least sync. I will go back to the stable 1.5 I keep going back to if I can just get there. I'm frustrated with all these updates that don't seem to work for me, and I'm just trying to get to a stable platform. Friday's this late are NOT a time to try something new and I keep trying new stuff. Shame on me!

Can anyone help me get to a point where I can be connected/synced where I can either try 3.8.1 one more time ... or go back to 1.5?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
hold volume down and reset with the stylus if you want to flash. You can flash that way from bootloader.

If you want active sync to work try going into usb to pc settings on phone via the comm manager menu and uncheck the box to enable faster data connections. reboot computer and phone should sync then.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
FYI I will not be on tomorrow. I have a huge event at work. As per my tweet earlier Ill work on a update sunday.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yup im pretty happy with both 3.8 versions. ;) Ill cook in the BT stuff next version ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Just did a total ROM revision after yet another ATT stock reimage. I still don't have the Settings button/icon under 'Start' ... just as before. So I have no idea why someone has it and I don't (in that location). I guess I'll stick with this, but sure seems weird ... can someone confirm that they 'Start' button reflects a Settings icon or not. Mine is located under 'Start', then 'Tools > HTC Settings > Menu > All Settings". Not an easy way to get there, but I would like either confirmation or something that refutes this. Saleen says otherwise, but this is the second time for me for this.

This is the second re-flash to ATT then to 3.8.1 and have received the same results.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mr_zero:
I've never facing this problem (missing or misplace "Setting" icon). But You're not the only one. Sounds odd, but you can try pull out your sim and sd and give it a try which what Aadadams solved the issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Location of RRE BTfix on 2/22 ROM

On my 2/22 ROM you can find the RRE BTfix CAB by:

Start / Tools / Reg Tweaks /RRE BTfix
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rgb-rgb:
Check this Key

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo]

"HideSettings"=dword:0

If it is set to 1 you will not see the setting button. Change it to 0 and soft reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Thank you fellow Texan!

That was it!!! Now my Setting 'gears' icon in back under the Start menu! Sure appreciate the help with that. Next ROM flash, I'll drop the SIM and storage card out and see it that helps. It's never been an issue before.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
New question re: Programs

With the Programs tab gone in 2.5, how do you quickly get to all the programs on the Tilt2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
if your asking about sense if you swipe your finger up in the main screen it will show six shortcuts for you to work with. the first three are the ones were you would like to place your most often used programs.

there is a prog out there that gives you access to more shortcuts but im not that sure as to were the prog is it is in xda some were if i find it ill post a link to it 4 you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Weather City Editor appears ot be flipping HTC Sense off ... at least for me it is. I created a location for my town, then went back in and made a change a couple of times. Each time coming out of WCE, HTC Sense was switched off. No big deal at all since I only go in there once after each flash to create my town's location (except when I went to Hawaii last week and added Wailea ... don't hate me for going to HI in the winter). :)

Also ... just out of curiosity ... My Location seems to be working for me now where it didn't before. It presented my town, whereas before it never recognized it while sitting in my home. But the weather temps are a couple of degrees different for My Location than it is for my newly set up town using Weather City Editor. Where does My Location gets its weather from versus the locations on the weather tab?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Yeah, I'm using that for my favorites. But I was just curious on how to get to all programs installed on the phone. There's always the occasion when I have to launch something that isn't set up as a favorite and I didn't know how you guys might be accessing all programs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
have you tried using the taping on the start on the bottom left of the screen it takes you to all the programs

wait wait i think i got you the manila program list right yea its gone i just use the programs on windows now
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
oops ...

Posted a question but figured it out. Wanted to delete it but didn't see how. So ... hope everyone's having a great day!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
It uses the position of your phone via the cell phone tower triangulation scheme (I believe), then uses that to find the closest city with a weather

forecast.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Sense 2.5

Played around with sense 2.5 this weekend...I can see what all the fuss is about. When the my location is working, it sure is pretty to look at.

The only thing I notice is that it appears that the workload of 2.5 drags down the phone just a bit. I might switch to sense on the weekends, when I'm not rushed for time, but I still need the fastest interface, which, for now, is still titanium. Perhaps with future builds they can tweak the sense 2.5x interface.

I really haven't followed it much, but isn't sense 2.5 really designed for the Leo?

If so, the cooks did a bang up job making it work as fast as it does on the 7201 chip.

Don't know how the weather is where you are, but it's gonna be sunny & 50 degrees here. See ya all later, I've got the batteries charged up...it's time to get my RC helicopter out and see how many blades I can destroy (or the swash plate LOL)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
I'll do this as soon as it's a single cab and I can install the cab to use it. Seems more complicated than I'm caring to take on. Messaging in it's current state is good enough for me.

Ryan, thanks for the latest version of this ROM! As usual, it's an awesome ROM you've given us. I'll be using it pretty hard core over the next week. But so far, so good!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DavisGentry:
Yeah, I've had that happen several times.

The other weirdness I am getting is that in the WMP when I play a playlist it will randomly skip about a second of each song every few seconds. IE - start a song, play 5 secs, skip a sec, play 8 sec, skip a sec, play 3 sec, skip a sec, etc etc ad nauseum. If I play the same song without going through a playlist all is good. If I play the same song in a playlist on the HTC audiio player all is good. Any ideas?

Running the 2/22/2010 build, btw
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] anit77:
See what happens if you start WMP and pause the song and let sit for 5-10 min. Then play the song. I find that after flashing both WMP & CorePlayer will do this at 1st start due to the apps building the library in the back ground. I've got about 13gb of songs on my card and with this ROM using a little more memory than norm it seems a little more pronounced this go around.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 4bettilt2:
unstableness

Hey Arrup

been running the 3.8.1 AT&T version and seems to be getting buggier the longer it goes, currently now having issues with my work related programs, I can open and navigate through them but if there is a drop down menu in the program can't choose anything in it I just get a beep

any suggestions
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DavisGentry:
wmp probs

No good - and audio went away for the song that was playing when I paused. When I restarted sound did not come back until that song finished and the next song started, but the song playtime incremented as though it was playing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] anit77:
:confused: I don't use WMP to often, mostly CP. I just fired it up and ran through 6 songs w/no issues... Did you go through the normal flash procedures? (Flash: stock-->RRE-->HrdRst)

Maybe it's the Play List itself.?.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DavisGentry:
wmp woes

Play list is one sync'd from pc - seems to be ok - it is only an xml doc anyway. The one step I skipped was the flash to stock - flashed directly from the 2/16 build to the 2/22 build. Maybe I'll try flashing to stock tonight, then to 2/24.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
I think its wmp builds in the last few 235xx builds

Yeah memory usage is high. This usually helps

Yeah I had issues over the weekend. Working on a new one

Hold off new one out within 24 hrs.

Sorry for the delay. Another employee hurt and i had to work my one day off. Ill have a test build out with leo 2.10 2012 manila soon. Im off next week so Ill have time to really dig in.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Wallpaper question ...

I was messing around with wallpaper on the phone and I picked the really cool orangy-greeny-psycho looking (delivered) one to see what it looked like. It's cool to see, but I'd like to go back to the standard black one that is standard in the ROM. Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 4bettilt2:
Next

Wow there goes the workers comp budget, I went back to a 2.1 titanium for now and will await your next posting looking forward to the next flash
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Just go to change it again and it will ask if you want to use original

Yeah second accident in two weeks :/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BzeBwoi:
Glad to hear new build is coming. Any chance of adding HTC Volume control? And the new AT&T Dialer(See Pic Below)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
I thought that would be the case, but it doesn't. Even after soft reset, all I get is the ability to choose a wallpaper ... no suggestion og using original is available. Guess I'll be living with that funkay psycho one until your next release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Not gonna add volume control till it works properly.

I am not sure thats a ATT dialer since no new ATT roms have leaked. I know I dont have a package for it if it is.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
I have a new version done. Im gonna upload it as a test build. I would recommend disabling the Documents tab. It slows down manila. I have the reader tab in this one but im still trying to get it to show up in the tabs. Ill get a new update out this weekend. Super long days at work today and tomorrow.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
thanx will test out but something wierd wierd right before I changed the Rom i lost all my contacts once again.most have happened over night any Idea why that happens??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Only glitches I've had (2-3 times) is a slow down or lock up of text messaging or email, when it receives multiple text or email, (from the Titanium screen), you click on the mail icon to bring up the MS mail program (manila messaging turned off), and the inbox will start to appear, then freeze the phone, requiring a SR.

The other glitch, appears to be related to the phone dialer. Sometimes, if you are on a call, run another program, then exit that program, the bottom curtain is "ghosting" and still showing up (the SIP icon). The normal menu button on the phone pad (just to the left of the red x), fails to display, but, if you click the area where it is suppose to be, the menu does appear.

Looks like a graphic snafu to me, perhaps fixed in a later build.

Other than those two bugs, the rom (titanium, manila options disabled as much as possible) works fine.

Hope it helps :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] photojsb:
ATT Tilt 2 new ROM?

I see you have a new test ROM for Euro. Are you going to release a new ATT one? or can I use the new euro one you released today 3/3/10? I want full functionality and I was happy to see you offered it! But it seems like the last ROM had alot of bugs. Also I cant get Cellular video to work on my phone, Does yours offer that?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] surfnet:
Please forgive me for my ignorance, but what is the difference between the euro build verses the att build? I see that you refer to is as the euro XIP.. and sometimes you use the ATT XIP, but you always say it is setup for att users..

I am on v 3.8.1 and it works pretty good, but Im the type that likes to break things to make them work better :D, so I am ready to try the test version,but I have been wondering about this euro deal

thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Ill answer both posts with one response :p

All of my roms are set up for ATT. Always have been and always will be. I typically provide links to fixes for non ATT users but they are built for ATT hardware.

I have been playing with the core files fro the latest rhodium rom which was a euro release. Basically im working on the best blend we can get ;) It takes several builds and people that use the phone different for me to tweak out a blend. Since the ATT rom and the new EURO XIP are so different I have been doing a version of each to find the best choices. So far seems the euro version is working best with manila 2.5. It is causing some issues with things like ATT video. (probably enabling the proxy will fix it). Your both good with any of my roms on ATT. Feel free to post any bugs and well try to get them fixed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
@ those using no manila

Ill get you guys a new build out this weekend ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
[03/03/2010] ™ T²-Series 2.5 build 23540 v3.9 -Manila 2.5 2012.1412 EURO BASE-TEST

Won't get much of a chance to test drive it until Thursday. Will let ya know.

I've noticed this though on the last couple of builds. See how the hide the keypad button overlaps the contacts button? Not a big deal but thought I'd pass it along.

As for testing, running titanium. In the Reg Tweaks folder:

Enhanced notifications, OFF

HTC Menus, OFF

RRE BTfix, INSTALLED

Enable Letter Rec Inputs, INSTALLED

Disable Manila Messaging, ENABLED

WVGA Tweak, "defaults" except for:

Sleep, OFF

Ringtime, WITHOUT DELAY

Startup Animation, DISABLED

X Button in HTC Album, TURN PROGRAM OFF

Keyboard Automatic Display popup, OFF

Advanced Config:

Glyph Cache, 32 KB

Keyboard Layout, AT&T

BT Audio Gateway Service, ENABLED

MS Timeout on Startup, 3000

Carrier Timeout on Startup, 3000

Play Shutdown Animation, NO

Installed Apps

Updated Bing

GPS Weather Radar

UC Browser

S2U2 v2.30, with 2.30 hotfix files. On S2U2, I disable ALL S2P options, have it set to lock after 60 seconds, lock after dialing has connected only on BT.

Everything else with that is default.

I see with the hectic schedule, you still had time to pop in the updated myphone app, THANKS!

Will let you know how it does tomorrow. Just pulled up my call list to put it back on the phone, and it looks to be a busy one Thursday.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mr_zero:
For the test rom, did you took out "Agps" under "Tools" and "GPStest" under "Navigation"?

Also, anyone have graphic issue for "Photo" tab switching to landscape mode without slide the hard KB out?

or it's just me to having these issues?:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
not just you its is like sideways and you only see half right im getting that 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Glitch with s2u2 only?

Ran into the first "glitch" (more than likely a s2u2 problem)

I have s2u2 set to lock the screen when a call is connected.

Went to check my voicemail. When it connected, as it is suppose to,

the s2u2 screen lock comes on. Slide to unlock, and when I press

the dialer button to make the keypad appear, the screen blanks out

white, with no keypad, but the bottom curtain remains, overlay of

the keypad image from the above post.

*****

With the lock on BT (S2U2) disabled, it did it again. If I check the email,

close, clear the voicemail & message notifications, then check voicemail,

if you press the keyboard soft button, the 10 keys won't appear. If I hang

up the phone, dial back into voicemail, it still won't show the keyboard.

After a SR, it works fine. Still sounds like their might be a bug with the dialer?

No biggie....comes with the territory...

******

FINALLY got home from work... Here's what it looks like.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hdstreetglide:
GREAT Ryan!!!! Loved the last one. Looking forward to a new one.:p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
same thing happening 2 me but i dont have S2U2 on my phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
I disabled s2u2, and it did it again......I'm not much of a programmer, but it looks like a bug with the graphics in the dialer?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Phone won't hang up ...

I've experienced this each of the past two days ... I'm on the phone and I go to hang up form a call and the phone does not react to any buttons at all. Nothing happens when you use the soft or hard keys to hang up. I've had to power the phone off.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
K im back and have some time off ;)

Going thru posts now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
more than deserved hope you had FUN
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yup ive seen it. Usually going to landscape and back fixes it. Rather annoying.

I saw it once but cant reproduce

AGPS i may have forgot the applet for settings

I definitely forgot to add gpstest.... Will fix in next build for sure.

Havent seen this but is prolly related to leo dialer.

@all

The camera preview also dosent work in test rom. I forgot to change the camera to rhodium..... Will fix this too.