yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] DMzda:
This might be helpful. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=594077

Someone managed to get a ROM to boot from SD card, without disrupting what is on the flash memory.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nicandris:
maybe thats the solution... i'll try the prosedure now and report
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mzover:
没有什么意义吧。。。。。。。。。。
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] prodygee:
Does the hero even have enough space for having two roms on it. Sometimes they exceed 80 mb's.

Sent from my Hero using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] DMzda:
"It does not make sense. . . . . . . . . ." (According to Google translate)

What doesn't make sense?

The solution is to store one ROM on the SD card, and either boot from there or transfer it to the flash memory when needed.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nicandris:
well files are missing so i guess we have to wait again... should we ask xdandroid team? they've been playing with dual boot for some time now
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
i have read the thread, seems they managed to do what i didn't...

here is the part i don't understand:

- how can we make the init script to prompt for anything?

- what is meant by "symlink the init.rc from /system", if we do that it won't boot, since /system is mounted in init.rc, and therefore init.rc cannot be on /system? where is my mistake?

- if we have only one boot.img that would mean we would be using the same kernel for different builds? that is what we do not want to do... i would be okay with flashing/fastbooting a different boot.img for each android i want to boot, at least for the beginning...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jex77er:
Doesnt the VillianRom 5.4 AutoUpdate feature do some of this functionality already ? It downloads some data to the SD card, reboots your phone, automattically copys the files from the download location on the SD Card to your phone (hence applying the patch). Unfortuantly you have to manually reboot at the moment.

Would it not be the same principle to dual boot? (just copying different nandroid backups from the sdcard to the phone memory)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
basically yes, but that is not what we are trying to achieve here. it would be easy to write a rom-switching script, but that is no fun as it takes too long (and is just no fun, we want dual booting ;) )
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] netgod:
Hello all.

I have been thinking for some time about this very thing.

I am also looking into running a system as a vps on the hero.

At least you wouldent have limits on space... and to vitualize memory is simple.

Not sure if this would sole this problem.... umm

Just a thought.. :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
what does "vps" mean? we are not trying to virtualize anything here, we want to be able to choose out of two different android versions that are somehow stored on the phone/sdcard, but do not let that stop you from explaining what you want to do... :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
i am just booting from my sdcard... looks promising :)

edit: confirmed. using the method and init binary from this post i was able to boot villainhero from a 3rd and 4rd partition on my sdcard (i didn't use the extended, since swap isn't used in villainrom anyway. seems like a good idea though, otherwise roms using swap could cause problems when trying to mount the 3rd partition).

it is ridiculously slow, and FCs all over the place, though nothing that seemed to remove any functionality.

i used the 2gb

sd

card that came with the phone, soon gonna try with

sdhc class 6

i have for normal use. should be faster.

edit2: it seems to work as well with the stock init binary from the hero boot.img (villain5.3/4).
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] netgod:
Trying to help...

I was thinking that if you virtualised the whole system it would be easier to create dual boot as you could run 2 at once and switch between them. That way you wouldent have to flash rom`s on every boot.

And also if you have say a 16 gig card you wouldent have the limitations of the hardware ie rom to deal with as everything runs off the card including both os`s.

I know that debian runs on htc hero and others have also done the same.

I will look into this and see if its a viable solution.

:-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
basically a nice idea, but where do you want to take the resources from? you don't have enough memory or cpu power, and how would you want to deal with all the mobile network related stuff? you can't access the sim twice for example... you'd need to write a whole virtualization layer for the gsm/3g hardware...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
i got this working, nearly fully automatic. more on villainrom.co.uk soon. (the solution needs a custom boot.img, thats why it will be on villainrom, not trying to steal users here...)

expect a fully automatic linux script which installs villainrom and slidevillain on your hero, hoping to get it ported to windows as well.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nicandris:
hmmmm can this be somehow helpfull?

http://phandroid.com/2009/02/26/android-and-windows-running-simultaneously/

more info here...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rst_ack:
That's what I was saying with the whole Virtual Machine reply. VMWare or cygwin(sp?) would be awesome! Sometimes, the most complex problems are answered simply: Let a big company do it, lol.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nicandris:
well they post in their page that ARM kernels v4-v7 are supported. any ideas about the version of our Qualcomm MSM 7200A?

Key product features:

* Based on a hard real-time, certified microkernel
* Supports ARMv4 to ARMv7 CPU architectures
* Supports market standard OS including Android, Symbian OS, Linux, Windows CE, eCos, µITRON
* Compatible with any proprietary or commercial OS and RTOS
* Delivered with integrated tools suite including Eclipse plug-ins
* Virtual machine isolation and built-in security

edit*	7200A is ARMv6
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
dualbooting, here we come!

it works. it works great, at least for me. see here: http://www.villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=417
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bratfink:
Info

Just wondering if i could flash an update zip while using this, and if so which ROM would be effected and also could i change a ROM without having to remove the whole dual boot sequence and adding the two new desired roms instead of my old roms. Thanks for any info :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] -wilking-:
An apk package will be great ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] :
Interesting, but I'm not sure about that "APP2SD would create a mess" bit though. The ROMs would not run in parallel so a simple dalvik-cache wipe at every boot should suffice. IMHO :)

Something like this should do the trick:

- Select to run ROM1

- Wipe dalvik-cache

- Install app, configure it

- Backup app config/data (e.g. with Titanium Backup)

- Reboot

- Select to run ROM2

- Wipe dalvik-cache

- Restore app config/data

True, that app data would be challenging (and a slight PITA) to manage across ROMs, but not impossible. This would be trickier with a 1.5/2.1 combo, as some apps would probably refuse to work with 1.5. Other than that I honestly don't see why APP2SD should not work in a dual-boot scenario.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
if you flash an update.zip that targets /system it will go into rom1, if it targets /data it will go into rom2.

changing only one rom is not possible, you can do it manually if you can figure out how... maybe i'll look into this sometime, but don't hold your breath...

i can imagine a script to backup all userdata, to restore it after new installation of two roms.

if you mean an apk for installation of dualboot that's not gonna happen. simply not possible. it won't get much more convinient than this script.

tbh, "would create a mess" may be exagerating a little bit. you could do it with the procedure you described, even without wiping dalvik (dalvik is on the sdcard, not DATA: ), but imho that would be more work than just installing every app you need in both roms. keep in mind that you'd have to go through the whole titanium process everytime you update an app...

let me know if you want to try it, it is easy to change the script that it leaves apps2sd in there, but you have to partition your sdcard manually then. i am in no mood to rewrite the partitioning part, as it is really a major PITA... ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jUsT2eXy:
Great work :D

Just wanted to ask if support for dualbooting say a 2.1 ROM and Windows Mobile 6.5.3 ROM would be possible in the future? That would be amazing. :p
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
has anybody ever booted a winmo rom on an android device? i don't think so, so it's not gonna happen... sry.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jUsT2eXy:
I know that why I asked you

You guys are the experts hence I asked you...

If you had asked the same question a few years ago to the Windows Mobile guys they would have said ...

LOL :p

But in the future do you think someone will or can come up with the required boot image / files / what ever ? Just like the Windows Mobile guys did for Android...

thanks..
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
thing here is: android is open source, so it can be adapted to other devices. winmo isn't so this is more or less a one way story... that's my thoughts on that topic, i might be wrong.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] codelockdown:
Well app data might be a problem, unless you modify the source of app2ad to use a different partition on the SDcard then tell each rom to use that one partition, so each rom can modify each user installed app and use each user installed app, im new to this programing on Android (Windows Tech SRY) but when you dual boot a windows machine, if you prgram it right, you can access the other system.

SETUP:

Windows XP sp3 Pro- 30gb partion 1

Windows 7 ultimate- 30gb partion 2

Thought: In ubuntu, when you boot up it asks with other OSs installed on drive: in order:

UBUNTU -xx.x.xx

UBUNTU -xx.x.xx Safe Mode

UBUNTU -xx.x.xx

UBUNTU -xx.x.xx Safe Mode

Other OS 1

Other OS 2

So it can be done on a PC, so why not android?

but like i said above, im new so i could be wrong.

but with a few changes to App2SD, the Kernal, (i suggest an older Kernal for compatibility), and of course the OS itself, it could be done easily. :)

but idk im new. lol
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alimx:
Amon_RA or somebody Please Help Me! I cannot make my phone start again.

almost DEAD SAPPHIRE?

This is the hboot infomation:

SAPPHIRE EVT1 32B SHIP S-ON 0

HBOOT-1.53.02000 (SAPP40000)

CPLD-10

RADIO-3.22.26.04

just the same with k9998 from : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=607169

I try "fastboot boot RA-MAGIC-RECOVERYV1.52"

1.H version can start,but it show "E:can't mount CACHE:recovery/log. E:can't open CACHE:recovery/log " ,i can't do any thing in this time

2.G version can not start

I looked all the possible thread about the :

SAPPHIRE EVT1 32B SHIP S-ON 0

HBOOT-1.53.02000 (SAPP40000), didnt find anything.. is it just me and k9998 that has this device? is it not possible to flash the SPL?

Edit :

I created goldcard from other sapphire device (HBOOT-1.33.2010) ,

does it matter?

because i cannot go to adb device from the dead sapphire.

From the goldcard created from other sapphire, I did try all method for :

NBH/ZIP

ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010) - MD5 : F9674D19BE5F949D0D9DC99714D210E3

ROM v2.16.707.3 (NON-Perfected stock SPL v1.33.0009) - MD5 : DC391E4A3FC57861D7197C151176ED96

ROM v2.16.151.1 (NON-Perfected stock SPL v1.33.0009) - MD5 : ADA4924293EFF619B05BB397446F862D

the device is just checking the SAPPIMG.ZIP and on the top right corner there is a blue progress bar but when finished it just nothing, went back to the Hboot screen.

I even tried the Extracted rom1.zip (rename to sappimg.zip) from HTC Magic_RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Asia_WWE_3.03.728.4.exe from http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportDownlo...at=2&dl_id=759

ALSO I tried the T-Mobile NBH file (somewhere in the UN-ROOT thread) , but it says :

Unknown Fail

Update Fail.

All the possible ROM i have downloaded and rename them to sappimg.zip but could not get through the fastboot update.

I am desperate..

Maybe if the goldcard created from the same device as the dead device would help? just another hope I guess..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] i147:
2.581 rom may help your G2.

Hi alimx,

if you can read chinese, here is a solution for your G2.

my G2 is the almost same SPL info as yours.

my SPL:

sappire PVT 32a ship s-on o

you can flash the 2.581 version rom, then your G2 should can be restarted.

you also need make APPTOSD for to storage the configuration info.

here is the link of 2.581 rom.

w#w#w.hiapk.com/bbs/thread-26829-1-1.html

(please remove the #)

hope it help to you.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] zsdja:
Hi, i147,

Your SPL is S-ON O? Do you mean it is the OMS system? Believe it is your typing error, right?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreamaway:
Hi, alimx

I flashed my oms device using HiAPK's method, and successed.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alimx:
hi guys.. sorry for late replying to all..

@zsdja its not a typo.. it really is s-on o (letter O)

@i147 i cannot read chinese.. but thanks anyway.

I already sold the unit to other person.. and I manage to get another unit with s-off.. and i learn to do a lot of things with it.

thanks all.
[HTC Vox] Jun1or:
Does somebody have a Romanian ROM for Vox? Or could anyone make it? If so, please upload it for me.

Sorry for my english. Thanks in advance.
[HTC Vox] liciniu:
Salut Jun1or ,

Why do you want such a rom ? I'm romanian but I use an english one , but with the T9 dictionary set to romanian.

O zi buna
[HTC Vox] Rhadu23:
Some of us don't know english that good.

Nu toti stiu engleza chiar bine k sa-i inteleaga toate setarile.
[HTC Vox] cardynal:
do you want romanian language rom or the orange rom?? because i saw once the orange rom (romanian orange rom) but the language was english :D..try search it within forum..
[HTC Vox] baubau646:
there is a site, mobilewave.ro. you have there a little library of roms, including romanian ones
[HTC Vox] Jun1or:
Thank you guys! the Romanian ROM it` for my dad , i have a I4 now :)
[HTC Vox] Hakim Rahman:
ROM for your Dad , you can look at --> http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=windows mobile&model=Vox
[HTC Vox] Jun1or:
10q ..... i find it on mobilewave

I can't post the link because "After approximately eight posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thanks for understanding!"
[HD2 General] asefsef:
hey guys, I need some advice on what to do. Situation as follows:

1. Not easily shown and randomly occuring screen defect, color patches appear, blue bands dance around. (as in, Fault? what fault?! like i had with a different product)

Post4 -only way to reproduce the problem, does it happen to you?

2. Bought HD2(Leo WWE UK) through Expansys china , as I'm in China atm, expansys is located not in my city so I can't reproduce the problem to them myself (no idea where the actual repair center is, expansys isn't picking up calls, and theres no "htc china").

3. Returning back to Australia in 2 weeks, what happens to the warranty?

Just a few obstacles it seems.

Could anyone share some knowledge? would mean a lot for me. Thanks!
[HD2 General] antaed:
i don't want to scare you mate but i've read there are chinese fakes on the market, it's possible you've got one. i suggest you contact htc australia and explain your situation, there must be a way they can help. good luck!
[HD2 General] Archer:
If you got it from Expansys, I doubt it's a fake. I think you're just gonna have to persevere in getting touch with them, even if it's after you get back home. The warranty will still stand, but you'll probably have to send it back to Expansys.

It clearly needs replacing from what you've described.
[HD2 General] asefsef:
johncmolyneux, think ur right, called expansys HK (not cn) they said i'll have to go through them, can't go htc directly. so no possibility to take to a htc authorized repair place in Australia right?

..wonder if I can send to Au eXpansys

the

bigger

issue:, on its own myHD2 goes retarded infrequently, like every 2 days, for 1/2seconds to 5seconds only. so i'm worried about them not seeing the problem and not fixing it.

wonder if it happens to all HD2's actually, sorry to sound sadistic, but below is the only way I can make it happen. otherwise the phone does it

on its own

every now and then.

Only way to reproduce it is by supporting at the front, on both sides with my thumb at TF3D slider height, and then pressing in from the back around the center also at slidebar height (tho sometimes a little more pressure is needed).
[HD2 General] Archer:
It's good that you can reproduce the problem. I tried it on mine and it didn't do anything unusual, so it's definitely not all HD2s that do it. (Maybe it's only mine that doesn't do it ;))
[HD2 General] asefsef:
I don't know if the guy will be able to reproduce it, probably try at few times and say theres nothing wrong. ><

reckon Au Expansys can take it in?

how long does it take ususally?
[HD2 General] Archer:
I have no idea mate. You'd best ask expansys those questions. I can just imagine the first response to the pic you've posted though... "Those blue lines are on the wallpaper" lol.

Good luck getting it replaced.
[HD2 General] asefsef:
sigh, its hard to reproduce it, you can use it for an hour and not have the problem show.

they said the process is around 2 months. i might just live with it. usually, i press somethin on the screen, it goes away

2month is a long time for high tech stuff!
[HD2 General] Archer:
2 months to get it replaced??? That's ridiculous. Surely that's not right?
[HD2 General] asefsef:
apparently it goes to HK expansys (im in sh) then they send it off for fixing. they mentioned 4-8weeks.

The problem doesn't occur all the time, so it annoying to not have it for 2 month and have it back un fixed.

HOw long should it be normally??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] saigon198:
How to uprom on Win7 (64bit)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Read and follow this step-by-step guide. You'll need to downgrade your drivers also by following this guide.

Post any further queries in dummies guide thread

Thread closed
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sengkh:
I just got a HTC Hero, I supposed it's from some Eastern Europe country as I can only select countries like Poland, Chech, Romania etc. from language and locale. I'd prefer to set the locale my country (Cambodia) although I doubt there is this option. And I want to have Chinese input as built in.

I did an upgrade to RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_2.73.405.5_WWE_release_signed_NoD river.exe downloaded from HTC website, but there's no different. I only found there's a link to this RUU_Hero_HTC_Asia_SEA_WWE_2.73.728.5_release_signe d_NoDriver.exe and my question is:

Can I upgrade ROM from one region to another, in my case to South East Asian version?

Thanks!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] deadwilder:
sure you can.

good luck! :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sengkh:
thank you, i'll try that.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sengkh:
[update]

Upgrade fail. when everything seems to complete, i got "error[131]: Checking Custom ID" on PC and "Checking Custom ID, upgrade failed" on phone.

any help please?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rhedgehog:
you have to have rooted first!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] balane:
I use a custom ROM so I don't have the original Copilot installed on my phone. I use the version I downloaded and installed. It's all great but the shortcut for it only has a low resolution icon that looks horrible on the HD2 main screen. Would somebody mind uploading their shortcut for the HTC originally included version of Copilot so I can use it? I can edit the shortcut path no problem.

Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] SimonW500:
Any luck?

Hi - I am in exactly the same position as you!

I'm a paid up Copilot user, I have d/l the custom HD2 v8.0.0.659 install from the ALK HTC mini-site, installed it and it works relatively fine on my Dutty ROM (slight issue with the rotation between landscape and portrait / vice versa not being as smooth - I suspect this is because the ROM might be enabled to rotate every app and therefore trying to do it twice.. perhaps there is a whitelist?). Only real 'issue' is the ugly icon as you state!

Very annoying.. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] sidd:
Hi Guys, I don't personally use CoPilot (I use TomTom), but recently I am on mission to design my own Glass effect transparent icons, and I have designed some for CoPilot as well.

I am attaching here with the preview files so you can see how would they look like.

(HINT: Just use the TRANSPARENT

PNG

ones, because the background ones are just for your preview)

Please let me know if they would be useful.

(btw I am using "Icon Changer" for the icon replacement on my HD2)

Regards

Sid
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] itsm3omg:
Ok Im a noob at hardspl I messed up bad... I flashed it and now a white screen comes up then restarts like every 1 min pls here!!! I tried Hard Reset doesnt work
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TheDeadCPU:
Try flashing a rom?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] stylez:
Moved as not ROM Development best bet flash a ROM like stated.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] itsm3omg:
I cant sync or connect to my comp>.> How do I flash
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ceesheim:
put the RAPHIMG.nbh on the root of the sd-card and go to the bootloader.

it will say serial and start flashing.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] itsm3omg:
Im lost how do I go to boot loader?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ceesheim:
volume down + reset button (hold it +/-5 sec)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] itsm3omg:
In the white screen or hold then power?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] the-wrangler:
yep for bootloader..even on the white screen, hold the volume down button AND the power button (with yer left hand) then at the same time with yer right hand hold the soft reset button with the stylus..hold them for a lil bit and itll show the multi coloured bootloader screen..youll get it no problem bud

hmm unless yer on verizon, someone with verizon might wanna chime in but i believe verizon is different for a few things..if yer not, then itll work no prob
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] BLEEDCOLORYOU:
Please.... CALLING ALL MT3G,magics,Sapphire Users..

I've done so much reading, from so many sources, confusion and sickness

is starting to make me wizzy...

I've currently been rooted for over 4 months now... first with cyanogen

then moved over to SUPER D... And iv been following that ROM since v1.2

now currently on his newest ROM v1.8...

let me first start off by saying when i was with cyanogen

i remember running MARKS THEME[32A] on a [PVT32B]

this was before i downgraded my SPL to 1.33.2005

(BUT KEEP IN MIND)- I never downgraded my SPL until i moved over to SUPER D ROM

MY CURRENT STATUS::rolleyes:

-My Touch 3g - Tmobile

-Recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2G

-Sapphire PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H

-HBOOT - 1.33.2005 (SAPP3000)

-CPLD-10

-RADIO - 2.22.19.26I

-APRIL 20. 2009, 15:30:43

*

-SD Card: Mirco SD 8GB

MY QUESTION:eek:

-Recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2G

-Sapphire PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H

^Should my ENG S-OFF {H} Be {G}^-Or-^Should my Recovery be v1.5.2{H}

Or Should it be as is?

-As far as my other questions and concerns:

*Seeing i have a DANGER SPL Change From THE MY Original SPL*

- How would i go about UNROOTING to Original. (Before ROOTED) -

- APPSTOSD/SWAP: What should be the recommended Partitioning Sizes for -SD Card: Mirco SD 8GB

:o!!!.THANK-YOU 2 ALL For Giving The Time Out Of Your Day To Further Help XDA Users. Your Input, Valued Time, Hard-Work, & Creativity Are Greatly-Appreciated.!!!:o

- Lucas Sasser
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
mytouch is g for google branded like the amon ra thread says