yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] true2you:
i don't know about that pal, when i first got the leaked SENSE 2.1 rom UPGRADE out here, i was really hoping that htc would do something about the video lag, the freezing and the speed, smoothness, memory usage etc...a couple of weeks after, it went official and BAM in our faces, nothing changed!!!

Plus POCKETNOW described an official upgrade for a american carrier touch pro 2 (ver, at,... don't remember) with sense 2.5 and it contains exactly the same elements than this one + the same things are missing

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secondly, guys i didn't want to give up after waiting so long to have a decent sense 2.5 in FRENCH, yes no cooked rom suits me because of my HARDWARE KEYBOARD (azerty, not qwerty) so i decided to dig a little further to see what i can do to make this one work and i just..:

-use core player with mort script (to disable/enable sense automatically when the program launches/ends)

-disable the HD2 messaging app with that (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=556614), so it turns back to the original touch pro 2 sms application, with the outlook background...

SO NOW it doesn't freeze anymore, and the battery consumpion is much better since the HD2 sms app is gone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rohithathie:
yeah u hope so ;)

here in the netherlands, people are getting this rom on their devices by the service center.. when their phone is repared.. so nothing test.. it's a official rom but it sucks big time! and HTC knows that now and i hope they are fixing it right now..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mhurg:
I have regular contact with HTC support and they confirmed it's NOT official and it's NOT supported. When I asked why, they just showed me a list of bugs they were ironing out.

As for your 2.1 comments, I had none of those problems :p

As far as I have been told, that was a slip-up. It was shipped prematurely and the service centers were supposed to test it, not install it on serviced phones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rohithathie:
so where's the buglist??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] illyvdm:
when buying a new TP2 in the netherlands it nowadays comes with the 2.07 sense 2.5 ROM. It even includes the "My Dad's Phone" mobile network configuration setting...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mhurg:
Still in their office I guess?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mhurg:
Maybe they do it differently in the Netherlands :cool:

LOL @ "my dad's phone" :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stormrain:
Ok very offtopic and sorry for that, but i just can't avoid asking... What on earth is My Dad's Phone??:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rohithathie:
u said, "they just showed me a list of bugs they were ironing out"

they showed it to u right?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iridium21:
Strange. My phone was repaired a couple of weeks ago by HTC UK and they flashed the new Sense 2.5 on my phone. So far no problems at all :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shadixs:
If it's not official ROM, why did they put it on their website?

http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=2&dl_id=877
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] AngelDeath:
I have a question, on the first page I see the EU rom, and I also have a link for the SEA rom, are they the same rom version? 2.07.707.1? If not, and if the SEA rom is newer does it support English?

*EDIT* I see they are not the same rom version, so Does the SEA support english?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sperti:
nice to see that HTC will release a new Update :)

I think I will wait till official release (through HTC Website) ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Edward Lowy:
ROM's are available on HTC UK site
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sperti:
I can't see them...

http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all :(

EDIT: finally I found them, you have to select "ROM Update" then you will see the updates :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
and these new officiel roms have all bugs fixed?

i am already cooking whit the roms from first post but as mentioned it has some bugs:p

if these are bugfree or have newer build number then 2.07 can someone post link for the new officiel released wwe version?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ridolfo:
Hmm, I'm only seeing the original Sense 2.1 WM6.5 ROMs (from 2009), not the new Sense 2.5 ones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pjsmith:
I just downloaded and installed the UK (WWE) update. Went in fine. Definately a new bios with new splash screen etc. I was on the official 6.5 before. Will let you know how it goes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sperti:
well, it has the same filename as the one posted on first side:

for example the german one:

_HTC Touch Pro2_RUU_Rhodium_S2_HTC_GER_2.07.407.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91_Signed_Ship

here is the UK File:

http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=2&dl_id=913
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pjsmith:
seems like a few new things in here. Youtube and facebook intergration etc. Don't remeber being asked for all this on the previous rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pjsmith:
wow. At first glance there is a lot of new and updated bits in here. All seems to work so far. Certainly seems as quick if not quicker to me than the original wm6.5 update. Scrolling is certainly better and to me the flick of the finger when scrolling through emails etc is now far more like the iphone motion than the previous one. Seems nicer so far. W'ell see how it goes I guess.

We'll done HTC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NoWorthWhile:
How is sms? Is it the Leo client?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sperti:
I think so, don't know the Leo client, but its different to the other 6.5 update (from november) ...

but, till now running quite smooth :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NoWorthWhile:
**** :/ To bad. I'm sticking with my rom then :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dcarr622:
Anyone have a serial to download the ROM from the HTC UK site?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rohithathie:
can anyone tell me what the filename is of the new 18-03 rom on the uk site??

is it different then the one mentioned in post 1??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
+1

eager to ee whats changed in the packages:p

maybe the added a taskmanager of its own
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] joshkoss:
Anyone got a mirror on the new HTC Rom??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] knigth16:
Anyone, that share s/n for download the spain ROM???? Tanks for advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeepDay:
for the serial try this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=646103&highlight=serial
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] knigth16:
Tanks, but that number only display me the WWE ROM, that I already have. I like the Spain ROM.

By the way, I had a funny problem... if I change in regional settings to Mexico mi device turn on the screen by itself inmediatly after that I turn off, It only keep turn off if I locked screen. But if I left the default setting, wich is USA, I have not that problem. Any commnet? Tanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LocDogg:
Found an S/N for UK: HT95NLL00167
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sperti:
btw: Taskmanager is included, so there may be a difference to the previous posted?

till now everythings running quite good :) I like that ROM :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rohithathie:
Really :|

that means this is a new build???

can you give me the info, Settings > System > Device Information
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sperti:
here are Device Informations:

System Software Version: 5.2.21887 (21887.5.0.86)

Manila: 2.5.20121225.0

ROM: 2.07.407.1 (80303) GER

ROM Date: 02/04/10

Radio Version: 4.49.25.91

Protocoll Version: 61.44etc.25.35U

hth
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Loconinja:
I am also interested to know if this is the same as the ROM original available from this thread, as I had a few problems with that one.

I am currently running NRG's latest maxmanila ROM, but would consider going to the latest official ROM if it is stable.

The file name is the same.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rohithathie:
that's very strange :S

it's the same as the one i have.. and i have the old upgrade.. :S maybe they just added some software and tweaks and let the name the same.. so Taskmanager was standard installed? how does the sms app respond? it's very buggy now.. so i hope they fixed that one! what did you install? is it fast?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sperti:
its difficult to say, because I upgraded from the 6.5 with 2.1.

Taskmanager is installed (but its a separated program, not located in top right corner of display)

SMS app respond is ok for me, seems not beeing laggy, but I receive not that much sms...

I additional installed the following apps: Communicator mobile, Navigon SW, Midomi and SPB Wireless Monitor... thats all :)

no problems till now :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rohithathie:
hmmzz then it's the old one.. if the taskmanager is not on the right top corner.. where did you find the taskmanager? in the settings menu? can you put it on the homepage on the right corner?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sperti:
Taskmanager is an extra application, you find it in "Start" and you can't put it in right corner, but I put it on the startscreen to the shortcuts.

to be honest, thats not a big issue for me :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jfjava2002:
for the french version, the official rom is the same as the version of htcpedia

Exactly the same size (even per bytes) and the same build. All packages seems to be the same too...

I was hoping they would make a build upgrade before to make the rom public (because of sleep of death) but it doesn't...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vinh.le:
Have you installed resco file explorer? it's not the included task manager is that your seeing?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sperti:
not sure if your question is related to me?

Taskmanager is a standalone application which is included in ROM Update.

Application is called: Taskmanager and its not located in top right corner.

:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vinh.le:
yeah it was sorry, have you installed Resco File Manager at all?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ridolfo:
That's the default Windows Mobile Taskmanager, which is in practically every ROM (although HTC has a trendency to hide the link to it).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeepDay:
Acutally I think the real quiestion is how do you change amongs running apps if you don't have that thing in the top right corner (whatever it is called).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stormrain:
Just install it afterwards. Search for Dutty's Taskmanager Leo here in xda and you will find it. Works flawlessly as it's basically the same one we used on the previous version ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ridolfo:
That, or you can use the included Taskmanager application; a double tap on a listed program will activate it.

It takes a bit more effort than the HTC Taskmanager, but it gets the job done.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Here you go Josh,

http://www.sendspace.com/file/tzxueb
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] knigth16:
Any mirror for that new Spain ROM? Thank you very much!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lakota:
So where is the programs tab then??!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stormrain:
Actually there isn't a programs tab in Manila 2.5. BUT do seach for c00kies Home Tab, it's a must have imo and it could help to what i persume you need. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] The Jack of Clubs:
wheres the task manager is the real question. :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Edward Lowy:
Having downloaded the WWE ROM from the UK HTC site dated 18th March, this seems to have the same problems as the non-official ROM's that have been commented on for the last few weeks.

The particular issues for me are :

1 pressing End key refuses to return to Home screen. Top of screen shows "START". Pressing Windows button shows you programs, but you can't reliably run anything. Result - remove battery start again

2 failure to wake from sleep. Press Power On button when device has gone into sleep, device refuses to wake. Result - remove battery start again

For me, the problems seem to resolve around Facebook integration - when i first link to Facebook, it shows all the contacts who are in my address book, but then appears to lock up when doing an update from Facebook. After I have reset the device, much of the download from Facebook has been done, but then trying to set up favourites in Contacts seems to cause the device to lock up again.

I have not experienced any problems with SMS lag, I like the new SMS client. The ability to send texts to a group of people is good but is stupidly limited. I run a kids football team and regularly have to send the same SMS to about 24 people - how stupid to limit a group to 10 recipients.

The ROM I have downloaded from HTC is :

RUU_Rhodium_S2_HTC_Europe_2.07.401.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91_Signed_Ship

This ROM is unstable. It is not usable. It should never have been released by HTC particularly when it was clear from this Forum that it had serious bugs. Several people from this Forum have contacted HTC and been told that HTC were aware of issues with the ROM and were presumably fixing it. How on earth have they managed to release it? Very bad indeed HTC.

I am pretty fed up with HTC and with the dismal news about initial releases of Windows Phone 7 being crippled at birth, I think it is time to try a different manufacturer and a different operating system.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LocDogg:
First of all, I have non of these issues. I have flashed this ROM and did a hard-reset and it's working flawlessly...For most of the issues you're having, yo should use BsB. With BsB you can extend the limit of sending sms to 50 and there are many other features that this tweak helps you with...http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=589305
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Edward Lowy:
Thanks LocDogg - by Hard Reset do you mean just a factory Reset?

Will try BSB, appreciate your advice
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] The Jack of Clubs:
mines running fine. im not sure manila 2.5. i want it but it doesnt feel complete or optimized enough. but im sure to find a cfc rom soon anyways. im only mad theres no htc task manager.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] petasis:
I have just installed the Greek rom in my Pro2 (RUU_Rhodium_S2_HTC_ELL_2.07.482.2_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91_Signed_Ship.exe), and it is working just fine. I think that this is the fastest rom officially released for this phone.

The only problem was that I was used to the task manager at the right top corner, and thus I installed Duttys Task Manager for Leo.

The phone now uses only 49% of available memory after a reboot...

(Which is amazing: the first rom was 54% and the second rom was 56%!)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Edward Lowy:
Hard reset, reflashed, reflashed, hard reset, hard reset, reflashed.

Hopeless. Device locks up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] helenstarlight:
Why?!!!

Mine locks up too, is alright for a few mins, haven't even installed any other programs, just loaded the rom, and then it freezes! Have wasted an entire weekend on this, and am so so stressed. Why release something if you have not tested it? Have lost all faith in HTC, as has my partner, shall be ordering the motorolla backflip probably as I need a qwerty device, if they can't even test an update what are their other new phones going to be like? Have reflashed 6 times now, disabled various things. Nothing makes a difference. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(:( :( :( :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Edward Lowy:
I'm with you Helen. Better things to do than mess around with phones. Hard resets etc etc should not be necessary (even if they worked) with a consumer device.

Bad on you HTC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] petasis:
Is it possible that those who face problems have a phone with a hardware problem? Are the stickers that measure humidity on the phone and battery in a good state?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] AngelDeath:
I asked this question already and yet no one answered it, does anyone know if the SEA rom thats available from HTC which has a newer build number also support English? Because if the build number being newer on the SEA could mean some of the fixes that the x.407 build needs might be in the x.707 build and am curious to try it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LocDogg:
Yup...It's in the setting under "clear storage"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] LocDogg:
I've tried it a while ago and it's in english...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] AngelDeath:
Okay, anyone by chance try out this new build and see if in fact its newer and has any added features or fixes? I'd be curious to try it out, anyone have a mirror since I dont have a SN to match?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Edward Lowy:
Have done this and also the Hard reset described in the Sticky on flashing new ROM's at the top of this forum. Unfortunately this does not help.

The device ends up in a state where i you press the END (hang Up) button, START appears at the top of the screen but the middle of the screen does not change. Pressing the Windows key brings up all the programs OK, some of which will respond. The Phone key works.

I note this happens most regualrly when you try to assign a Contact as a Favourite. Click Add favourite, select the contact you wish, then the action you want (view contact card or dial mobil etc). Then ther is quite a long pause, then you can assign a photo, at whih point you go no further. Do a Soft Reset and the contact is correctly assigned to the Favourite button.

Anyone else got problems with this "New" ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sperti:
running this ROM (the german one) since thursday, no issues till now. I like it very much :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Aurangzaib:
G-Sensor Rotation

Hi does the EU rom of the tp2 have the G-Sensor Rotation on the music tab and pictures tab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] petasis:
No, the Greek one does not rotate in images & music.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Edward Lowy:
I think I may have fixed my locking up problem using :

RUU_Rhodium_S2_HTC_Europe_2.07.401.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91_Signed_Ship

1 flashed the old ROM (RUU_Rhodium_S_HTC_Europe_1.86.401.0_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.17_Signed_Ship)

2 then reflashed the new 2.07.401.1 ROM

(this may or may nothave fixed the lockups and other strange behaviour. I think what I have done below is more relevant.

The problems I have been getting revolve around Contacts. Something as simple as setting a Contact as a favourite would cause a semi-lock up of the device. My Contacts are actually stored in our corporate server in Lotus Domino / Notes, and then synchronised to a Windows Mobile device using Commontime software. I also felt that the problems arose when trying to inegrate with facebook, again a Contacts-centric operation.

So, took the opportunity to have a look at some of the Contacts i was trying to set as favourites and how they are stored in Lotus Notes. To my surprise, in the comments field there suddenly appears text with "HTC" "Favorites" & "Facebook". Much of this text was repeated numerous times.

In Notes, I cleared all this text (some of which looked corrupted), resynchronised and .....all is well so far!

Favorites set up fine on the TP2 - text does get uploaded to Notes, but it is not corrupted, and readable on the TP2 for that Contact. Facebook integration also seems to work OK.

No lock ups so far! Am feeling better about life, HTC!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] combat goofwing:
so is this a full working 2.5 rom with keyboard working??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Edward Lowy:
haven't found any keyboard problems, but the Black Screen of death appears!

When TP2 has gone to sleep, sometimes just does not wake when pressing power button. HTC know about this, I do not think this ROM should have been released
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] quarintus:
I have the new official Dutch ROM, and luckily (for me) it hasn't have any problems. Even the amount of lag in the homescreen is little (I have the weather animation disabled).

I have the touch pro 2, the HTC phone, as stock. So no mobile provider version. Maybe that's the diffrence between all the diffrent hickups and black screens?

THe Rom is very speedy comparing even to many custom build ROMs. Still I think there could have been a lot more customized. There are just some parts of sense, or the windows system that work a bit slower, that I know can be faster.

This Rom is acceptable (as it is with me) to publish from HTC. It isn't really good though, like the first one was.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] metalmetal:
i have operator-free TP2. got the WWE version of rom and it crashes a lot. there are problem with text messaging - it crashes down whenever new message is coming in. crashing means htc sense freezes and are not active, although i can use start and make some another functions. only way i found to use the phone - disable htc sense and use windows default home screen, but what the fu.. im paying for??? i hope htc will release new rom very soon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] petasis:
I think we should organise a poll about this "sleep of death". I hasn't appear (yet?) in my phone...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] metalmetal:
i think it happens only under certain circumstances. now im using windows default today screen and it seems work fine and smooth, but i dont see point using it - my TP2 is like nokia :) cant wait for htc desire and get rid of that crappy TP2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] penguinjet:
I have encounter standby of death issue very often. Almost every first boot up of a day (I need to keep reboot my phone everyday to get back my memory, else my program always got kill due to lack of meomory) if i lock my phone and press the power button, go to standby mode then the phone will never wake up again. I somehow realize, i have to lock and unlock the phone at least one time after the reboot then only switch the phone to standby mode. By doing that, i manage to minimize this dead black screen issue. Of course, this is not 100%. But, if i straight away lock the phone and switch to standby mode after first reboot, my chances to caught in this problem is almost 100%.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lazso084:
Screen of death issue solved (?!)

For those experiencing sleep/screen of death:

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=648134

Let us know if this is working...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
I'm running the latest HTC Official ROM using my T-Mobile TP2. Running great except I can't find a cab that works!! My (MMS?) pictures come in really tiny! Can anyone please link me to a working cab?? Thanks!!!