yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 4bettilt2:
Chef is getting ready to cook

Oh Boy I'm Hungry, 2.1 is OK for a stop gap but I am ready for more

Hope you enjoy the time off from work

Can smell the ROM starting to simmer:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
I just disabled the phone canvas...I'm more into speed anyway, and 99% of the stuff that the phone canvas shows, I don't use anyway ;)

Other than that little glitch nadda.

The problems with BT appear to be finally nailed down. Haven't had any hangups with this build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hdstreetglide:
Ryan, is there a non manila version in the works? Or should I just flash this one?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
lol

Have it up before the end of the weekend. Im updating the kitchen to 23544
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Sorry for the delay. Had some auto hard resets last night. Im working on the issue now. Should have something today. As always I wont release something im not happy with.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hdstreetglide:
Not a problem, my friend. That's why all your work is cutting edge and 1st rate.:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
No biggie...stable is preferred to eye candy ;)

Wasn't around the computer this weekend...the weather was just too nice to stay indoors.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
SPB mobile shell 3.5

Hey, I posted this over on the software side, but thought I'd throw this one out.

I downloaded SPB mobile shell, just to play with it, and it did this.

Tried every option I could think of...having MS take over the start menu, disable the default WM today plugin etc....

I probably won't use MS, just was playing with it and came across this...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
Ooh, I know this one :). The program Arupp uses to fix Manila in 6.5.5 (Position Fix) isn't compatible with Mobile Shell since SPB decided to use the same window class as manila.

I fix this on my phone by disabling position fix (remove the shortcut in windows\startup) and installing Interceptor by Programmatix. He set his up to ignore anything that wasn't manila.exe. I can't find the link to it, so I attached the cab I use.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Thanks! Is it just a shortcut that needs to be removed, or a startup file?

I don't use manila, so if it isn't needed, I'll just dump the file.

I think when he has time, He's going to post a no Manila version.

Ryan, will the below file still be needed if running SPB 3.5x?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
Yeah, it's just a shortcut in the startup folder that you can delete. positionfix.lnk or something like that.

And you can remove it completely if you don't care about Manila. All it does is shift Manila up a few pixels to compensate for the different sized top and bottom bars in 6.5.x. I think it works for the Resco apps too, so if you use any of them you might want to play around with it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Interesting reading for those that use MSVC and BT ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5825339&postcount=1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Manila and no manila uploading ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Hdstreetglide:
wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 4bettilt2:
:cool:

When I get up about 3:30 with the insomnia thing I'll be downloading and flashing,; Hmmm manila or noManila so many choices for an old fart like me. Looking forward to the test drive.

Thanks Arupp
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
K finally posted. I got a warning from my ISP about copyright material so im keeping my bandwidth low for a few days lol. Not ROM related though :/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
carefull with that music :eek: lol will test out thanx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
[03/09/2010] RRE™ T²-Series 2.5 build 23544 v4 - No Manila-TEST BUILD

Must of had a bad flash, I'm hanging at the white at&t splash screen......

brb....gonna try flashing SD card.

****************

SD card flash ok, still hangs at the white at&t splash with the red lettered info at the bottom.

SD card flashed to the 3.8 version is ok...maybe a corrupt 3.9 download.

Will give it another go tomorrow. Getting late, will take another 45 min or so to set it back up

on the 3.8 version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mr_zero:
v4 -Manila:

Boot fast.

Everything run fast and smooth.

Photo Tab on Manila still have graphic problem when switching to landscape mode without slide the hard KB out.

@ Ryan, is it the same Leo dialer as before? Changed smaller fonts on the dialer? and what other things changed in V4?

Another great rom, Thanks Ryan!;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
No it is not the leo dialer. It is actually a photon ported dialer from smaberg. It does not have the dialpad bug the leo dialer had.

other changes

Fixed some packages

Switched to 2.10 leo ext files and manila

updated sys to 23544

Added some new manila setting graphics from sr

ehhhh some other stuff too but thats all i remember this early.

@all ill rebuild the no manila and see whats up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mr_zero:
Thanks for the change log.

No wonder I don't see dialpad bug on this rom.

Any idea why photo tab having graphic problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
It was strange....I didn't have time to screw with it last night, it could have been nothing more than a bad download. I'll have time to download it again

tonight and see what's up.

Typical....I started screwing with it about an hour before bed, and 'ole Mr Murphy thought it would be good to screw with me.

No problem though, just took a little longer to flash it back to the old version.

Kind of gets your heart in your throat :eek: when you see it hang after a flash LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
yea its going into landscape mode but upside down instead of sideways wierd wierd wierd
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
No it was me. It must have been a miracle it flashed for me. Wrong xip :/ Fixed version on the way

easy fix ;)

FIXES FOR LANDSCAPE PHOTO AND MUSIC

To dump the animation and speed up music and photo tab

HKCU/software/HTC/Manila

Change enablefullscreen to 0

Reset

or to keep animation (slower)

Delete the reg for manila in the gsensor

HKCU/software/HTC/GSENSOR

Theres one in both keys Whitelist and Modules
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
Has anyone else seen issues with the unread SMS counter not working?

I have HTC Messaging disabled (via the tool in the Reg Tweaks folder), so I'm betting that's got something to do with it. In the last two builds, when I get an SMS the notification bar at the top of the screen changes, but the unread SMS counter in Mobile Shell or Sense doesn't change. The email, missed call and voicemail counters are all working fine.

I'm just starting to look at it, so I'll edit if I find anything helpful.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mr_zero:
Thanks.... Deleted both Sence(Manila) reg, SR and fixed the issue. :D

HKCU/software/HTC/HTCSENSOR/GSENSOR/ModuleName/Sence

HKCU/software/HTC/HTCSENSOR/GSENSOR/Whitelist/Sence
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yup thats a side effect of disabling it. Noone has found a way around it yet. God knows I wish someone would find a way to leave out the messaging client. I despise HTC messaging.

@all

I think I have no manila fixed ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
Fun... Well, I may have stumbled on a way to fix the SMS Patch.exe in the Zenyee cab. The reg key it reads to get the count isn't being updated properly anymore...I got it to work once a few minutes ago, but broke it again. If I can get it stable I'll cab up a fix.

If I can't...does the no manila build have HTC Messaging?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
no it is stripped out on that. Everything manila related is removed. Im prolly gonna strip more out and check out shaps touch experience UI. Shaps BETA version is donation only so gotta ask the wife lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dwlacy:
lockscreen issues

running v4

lockscreen does not appear with a long push of the right button....no option to change it under personal/buttons :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Hmmmm yeah. Ill take a peek in the morning. I can most likely cab fix it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Installed last night, no issues so far. Gonna be another long day, so it should get a pretty good work out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
Man, the no manila build flies with SPB MS3.

Any chance you'd cook the enhanced menu or notification mods into future versions? The stock menus feel tiny after using the HTC version for so long.

If not, I think I can cab them...but the menus always run a lot slower that way. Do you cook the HTC dependencies (HTC Framework, HTC Scroll, etc...) into the no manila ROM?

And yeah, that Touch Experience thing looks amazing. Beta users are saying it's still got some holes so not ready for daily use yet, but everyone I've talked to is really really impressed. They say the animations are smooth even on the TP/TP2 devices w/o hardware acceleration.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yeah I can cook a version with menus and notifications.

I always leave in framework, scroll, media toolkit, shared modules, etc. Too much depends on that and alot of cabs and addons wont work if they are not left in.

I cannot wait till schaps officially releases it. Im dying to cook it into a rom and see how fast it is then ;).

@all

Any other requested changes to no manila before I recook it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Ran it all day, not one issue. BT works without a hitch.

Had some thunder/lightning storms rumble through, just popped the rig back on.

Power must have been wiggin' out, the UPS kept beeping.

That new UI looks impressive! The background animation is pretty cool.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 4bettilt2:
Newbie question

Using the no manila version so far liking it

started to use chome editor to set up my home screen liking that too however went to set up a calculator page and can't seem to find the .exe file for the calculator to linl it to

does anyone know the path to the calculator .exe file ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Sent you a PM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Notification pop up?

On almost every reboot, I get a black screen pop up notification.

Most of the time it goes away on its own, but sometimes I have to hit the close button for it to disappear?

Did it with the manila & no manila version.

Ok...what did I miss??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Thats the notification enhancement. You can disable it in tweaks .
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jola66:
I know its the build but its a bit buggy so far. I know itll get stable as ive used a previous ROM of yours. Some apps lock up like the camera and i end up having to restart. And sometimes on reboot, it locks up during reboot.

Gonna go back to your other ROM for now. Good luck with this one and I look forward to trying out the next version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
That's the HTC Notification manager. It will also pop up if you hit the top bar. It's a LOT more useful than the Windows pop up bar if you ask me... Not sure why it auto closes some times and not others on boot though. If you want to disable it, you can use the Enhanced Notifications Off link in the tools > reg tweaks menu.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jola66:
Damn, Im having trouble booting at all now, which will prevent me from flashing any ROM I think. It keeps getting stuck at the blue windows orb with all the apps circling around it. I cant get past that point.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mr_zero:
try flash by SD.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mykwalkr:
Flash it Via MicroSD Card...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jola66:
Thanks trying that now. n/m, i found bootloader instructions.

Alright! Thanks again guys, I shouldve thought of the SD method, ive never tried it before. Im back on the previous ROM and I think ill stay clear of this one until the next version. I like what I saw potentially, but too buggy for me right now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
LOL...ok, here's another one...when I click on enhanced notification off, I get a

mortscrip error.

"Ther is no application associated with xxxxxxx. Run the application first bla bla bla".

Almost all the reg tweaks in that folder do that.

I found the setting to turn off the enhanced notification, HKLM/services/notification manager/flags, setting it to 4.

No biggie on the others, I don't use them anyway, but weird that they all have the same mort script error.

Other than that, the no manila version appears to be working (with the top bar cab file)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yeah somehow I deleted mortscript from the kitchen. No clue how that happened. Install a mortscript cab and it will be fine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chadh:
Signal Strength

Anyone had a problems with signal strength? Tried flashing back to stock and re-flashing a couple times. Seems to be alot worse than the 2.3 23518 rom I was using before. I am using the same 4.48.25.20 radio.

It also acts like it doesn't want to switch to Edge when HSDPA gets weak.

Ryan what rilphone do you have cooked in the latest version compared to the 2.3 23518?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] anit77:
Hey Ryan, what are the differences between the rom in this thread vs the last 2.5 you posted in the other thread?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thesecondsfade:
Does anyone have the latest MSN Weather Widget as a .wgt, .widget, or .cab? I can't get the one I have working with touch scrolling.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Mortscript

Guess that's why this morning when I powered it up, I got almost the same error on the titanium ATcontacts? Red X's where the contacts should have been. I wish I had read this before I started to screw with the phone.

Oh well, it's been a while since I did back to back to back hard resets LOL.

The mortscript cab appears to have fixed it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] khtims:
Small Bug?

when I get a text message i get the 1 in the circle for one new message on the manila tab. Then I go read it but the new message indicator on the manila tab will not go away until I reset phone.

Also still having a very hard time syncing with activesync on my computer. Never had issues with that before until this new ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
I have the ril for the 4.48 radio. Seems like alot of the issues are related to the new XIP. Im going to cook a identical version tonight with the old Rhodium XIP and see if we still see any of these problems ;)

You have to actually enter messaging by clicking on the message to clear it. Thats how it is in this version of manila :/

I havent had any issues with sync but I have seen alot of reports about it to chefs across the different rom threads. What OS and version of activesync do you use?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
I applied the fixes and tweaked it a little.

@all

I will put up two different test versions tonight for those that have some time to gather info.

Several users have already helped me iron out some bugs.

TPC has helped me along with a nice dialer. Huge thanks to him for all his help ;)

I ask that everyone please let me know what you have installed when reporting a bug. With the huge changes in XIP in the latest rhodium roms it is very important in helping track bugs. Thanks to all of you for your help in the 2.5 transition. ;)

I will be publicly posting a no manila version tonight. Testers have run it and after a few minor tweaks it should be good to go.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] khtims:
Glad to hear you are making this ROM with the old XIP!!! Maybe tellme will work again too! Anyway, thanks for the tip on making that indicator dissappear. I am running windows 7 with the windows mobile device center (not actually activesync). Hope that helps! Thank you! :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] anit77:
I was having nothing but problems with both ActiveSync/XP & WMDC 6.1/Win7 64bit using the rom from the other thread. I had hard reset and installed the fix, there was nothing else installed.

Using the XP machine it would connect to Activesync & Mymobiler but it would hang during the sync process.

I flashed stock then flashed the one from here and it appears all is good now. Don't know what you tweaked but it did the trick. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] barrym1:
I'm Loving the no Manilla version of this ROM. I've been waiting on someone to come out with one. I've been using Da_G's clean ROM and cabbing to hell. Using SPB MS.

I have two questions though.

-When I turn off the phone canvas it doesn't show any contacts. It's like they are there and I can touch them, they just don't show.

-It seems the bottom right X (close) in applications actually closes. I can't find an app to tell it to just minimize like the old X button in settings, is there one?

Thanks

Barry
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
AMeBa is installed, that's what's closing the apps when you hit the X button. You can tweak that behavior in the registry (look at the first post in the linked thread for all the options). There's also a gui tool one of the guys in that forum wrote to edit the settings. I've never tried it though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] 4bettilt2:
Dumb ars

:p

never mind went into windows through active sync which allowed me to find the path got it working....if anyone needs it the path is:

\windows\htcCalculator.exe

I need my calculator frequently nice to have it on homepage and not tie up a button
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BobWhite:
I know what you mean. I am a heavy calculator user as well.

I keep HI Calc on my PTT button
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
The settings app is preinstalled. Look for the bix X in tools ;)

Minimize should be preset to long press X
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xawen:
Lol...well how are we supposed to find it when you hide it behind a giant, super obvious X icon???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mr_zero:
It's always there.

under "Start" >>> "Tools" >>> "AMeBa Settings"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] barrym1:
Thank You. I ain't used to these fancy utilities yet ya'll put in these ROM's. Admittedly I didn't look real hard.

___________________

Barry
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Ok, just upgraded and noticed that "Settings" was missing again so I followed these instructions previously provided and it's back where it belongs.

Question - why would this happen for me after a new ROM flash and not anyone else?

Also, HTC Sense was 'off' (not selected) after the flash. I noticed this on the 3.8.1 version for me as well.

Question - is this the way it occurs for others, or just me?

Also around HTC Sense, when I make additions or changes using the Weather City Editor application, every once in a while HTC Sense is 'unchecked' when I exit the WCE application so I have to go back to and select the box for it again. This also happened to me with version 3.8.1.

Question - Has this happened to anyone else?

I'll be putting the ROM through it's paces over the course of the weekend and next week as I'm on vacation and will have time to play at least occasionally.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Bluetooth isn't working in the car ...

I can get the BT to pair without a problem. I placed a test call to my wife from the car ... typical push button on the steering wheel, "Call", confirmation that the call will be placed using my cell. I don't hear any ringing, but watching the screen on my phone I see that it was dialing, then connected. I'm talking but hearing nothing for about 15 seconds. I come in and ask her if she heard anything and she said no.

Anyone have a clue as to how to fix this? BT in the car hasn't worked for me for the past couple of releases or so. I know there was supposedly a fix out there but I can't find it. I think I mentioned this a couple of versions ago and just haven't been able to use the car BT with my phone.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
The settings missing has got to be a bad flash. I would completely flash stock and then reflash to see if it happens again.

Weather city editor is supposed to turn of manila if it needs to. It keeps it from corrupting the database.

Im wondering if this is from including navipanel. Ill exclude it next version and see.

Have you tried usinf navipanel for car kit mode?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kimtyson:
Download links are not working. I searched but did not find any mirrors.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Hmmm server is down. I reupload :/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
OK mirrors up till I figure out whats going on with the primary server.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
This happened on the 3.8.1 version for me, too ... both on the initial flash AND post an AT&T stock ROM flash. So it's a recurring theme for me recently.

[/QUOTE]Im wondering if this is from including navipanel. Ill exclude it next version and see.

Have you tried usinf navipanel for car kit mode?[/QUOTE]

You might as well be speaking a foreign language, Ryan, because I have no idea how to reply to this ... I don't know where to find this (assuming it's a cab or a BT fix). I thought you had provided a fix for BT in a previous version, but I can't find anything for the life of me. So I'm willing to try anything BT related, I just don't know what. Any suggestions are appreciated ... so I'll search on "usinf navipanel".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Not sure which BT problem you are having, but there should be an RRE BT fix icon under start/tools/reg tweaks.

Also, if you are having problems with voice command, look just under the links for downloads, under reported issues, a link for a cab to possible fix that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Navipanel is in system settings. Icon is a picture of a car.