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[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lewy1:
Hi there!

There are members here who have successfully cooked for the Vogue with each one using the kitchen that he prefers, while there are many others who have researched for hours and still have trouble setting up a kitchen.

Anyone who tried to do this without prior knowledge surely remembers how much effort is needed to learn all the steps, since the cooking process is quite complicated and there are many new things to learn. Even if one managed to setup a kitchen he might still have no idea how to port a new build to the kitchen. I have also found it difficult to learn what exactly do you need to keep from the original ROM that was shipped with the device and which of those old files can we get rid of. And the list goes on and on...

Many would love to enjoy the thrill of building their own custom ROM with the programs that they find useful, and to be able to tweak it the way they prefer.

I'm calling here on all of you who have experience cooking for the Vogue to please share your knowledge here.

If you have a kitchen setup that you would like to share, I'm sure that many members would love to make use of it!

See post #18 for a description of ROM XIP SYS OEM and LANG. Thanks to egzthunder1.

UPDATE 02/18/10

From my own personal experience and as others have mentioned in the first few posts of this thread, the easiest kitchen for a new chef is the PPCKitchen.

STEP 1: You can register at ppckitchen.org and download the latest version of the kitchen. After installing the kitchen you will need to run the updater. It will take a few seconds while it connects to the server. After that you will have an option of downloading different files. In order to cook a working ROM you will need to go to ROM Kitchens\Vogue and download the following Vogue Carrier Kitchen files, Vogue Kitchen Core, Vogue Drivers. (I don't believe you need Generic OEM Kitchen files in the above directory). Of course you will also need at least one of the Windows Mobile builds from the same directory (ROM Kitchens\Vogue).

Although the builds that show up in the updater are pretty new, yet the latest builds will not show up. In the future after having successfully cooked a ROM with one of the more stable builds from the updater, you can go get the latest builds from the PPCK website at Windows Mobile Build Discussions\Test SYS Builds. *Advanced PPCk Users only*. For now I would stick to the builds that show up in the updater.

There are also OEM files that you can download with the updater. These files have different programs that you will be able to add to your ROM. You can download PPCKitchen OEM's, PPCKitchen 240x320 OEM's, Non Freeware OEM's (don't get exited it's only a trial!), and User submitted OEM's. You don't need any of these so you can download them and check if you want the programs that's inside, if not you can delete the whole file from your kitchen folder that's in your PPCK folder.

The kitchen is very easy to use and you can now build a basic ROM.

I hope to add more to this mini tutorial within the next few days.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Irishpride:
I agree 100%, I think it would be great if some of the experienced chefs could drop some knowledge on the rest of us, if not only so we can keep pumping out new ROMs for our Vogues.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Barogi44:
Head over to PPCKitchen.org they have a tutorial and everything you need to cook roms, its also the easiest to use in my opinion. :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
As you may have noticed over the past few days, I have been trying to keep the forum a little cleaner by asking people who open new threads with questions to simply ask them in a sticked Q&A thread. This request also falls under that same premise. Please do not open new threads asking questions. Threads should only be opened to contribute to the site (roms, kitchens, skins, guides, apps, etc). Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lewy1:
I also have been using the PPCkitchen and agree that it's the easiest, but I have found that it's also somewhat limiting and think it would be a good idea if those using the Ervius VK or any other kitchen would be able to help others.

Sorry, didn't mean to make a mess while your trying to clear things up. It must be frustrating, sort of like cleaning up the floor and having somebody walk in tracking dirt on the freshly cleaned floor!

I just thought that this would be a Tutorial type of thread where members could come and add their little bits of knowledge until we would have a lot of info gathered in one spot. Personally I still think that it's not another simple Q&A thread, although your welcome to disagree and to remove this thread if you want. I'm still hoping that this thread will become a guide for all newcomers to cooking.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] tharris297:
When I get home tonight, I will give you a heads up on how i use PPCKitchen. I cook for personal use only and don't publish roms. In short, all I do is use is a modified version of Vin's Generic_OEM. By modified, I take out things I don't need and insert things I want. When I used to flash manila roms, this was critical as his MANILA folder has every thing needed. Now that I don't use MANILA (I replaced it it SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 (I LUV IT!). When a new WM build comes out, I simply pop them files in the appropriate places and run it. I am currently in love with 23529.

If your interested in what I'm doing, you can start by downloading Vin's Generic_OEM from his 28014 Thread. Just search for Generic_OEM in the thread.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
I know what your intentions were and I do not disagree with you. But there are a few things that need to be considered for making a "cooking guide" for this particular section of the site...

*There are only 3 (4 at best) active chefs for this section: Nag, Barogi, vin (if he decides to fully return), and myself. I believe that NFS will not return (personal unfounded belief).

*Most of the above chefs use PPCK. I am not saying that they don't use others like VK, but the info on cooking will be pretty much the same that you can find in the PPCK website.

*There are a slew of tutorials floating around the site (not just the Vogue section, but throughout XDA), which have a lot (and I do mean a lot) of information on how to cook.

*Cooking with other kitchens is far more involved than simply dropping build packages into PPCK. You can even get down to the nitty gritty of hex editing your rom to get more stuff out of it (ie, there is a hex change in the BA roms that allow you to have more ram available).

*Lastly, since the Vogue uses newer style roms (nbh, as opposed to older formats like nbf), learning how to cook from scratch would be kinda a waste of time (believe me, I spent the last month learning how to port a newer rom to the Blue Angel and it isn't as simple as you may think).

One of the mods (I can't remember which one right now) has a series of posts with tools, tutorials, and a bunch of other things needed to cook. What we could do is simply make a one or two post sticky with the links to the different tutorials on xda as well as on other sites (ppcgeeks has a 1100+ pages thread that talks about cooking and porting). I will see if I can get my hands on those and get them in here if that is ok with you.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lewy1:
Thanks, that's perfectly fine with me. I have seen most of the stuff that you mentioned and was actually thinking along the same lines as you. If I can I will add my own little bit of knowledge like links to the various kitchens and so on. By the way there is a new kitchen, Oskitchen with new UI by airxtreme (original kitchen by Ondraster). It looks like it will be easy to use and has just been modified for the Vogue, and I'm hoping to give it a try tonight.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Yes, I did see that one. I had tried oskitchen before and it isn't too bad (still preferred Ervius though). However, this new UI seems a little more user friendly...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lmiller1708:
Start out with PPCK. It works well, most users will not notice the limitations.

Biggest thing with making your own ROM's is getting all of the Reg edits that need to be included.

Good Luck! :eek: PS Start with build 23529 it seems to be really stable and fast!:rolleyes:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lewy1:
First post updated with mini tutorial.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codf4ther:
Perhaps we can use this thread to gather up those types of regedits in one place. It would also be good to have guides for new cooks on how to add things like EzInput 2.1 (with working vibration) and Long Press End Key, BT Pan and Alarm functionality (while plugged in). Most of the newer roms have old or incomplete implementations of these features. vin was the last person to get many of these features all together in one place. With the age of the Vogue many of the cooks are trading up to newer devices and much of that knowledge is getting lost.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Are you talking bout me :D?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codf4ther:
No sir, not trying to single anyone out. I've tried pretty much every rom released here and on PPCGeeks :) I haven't tried your latest ones labeled MetroPCS. I'll flash you latest tonight and try it out for a few days.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
just uploaded 28230. Try that one and let me know if you like it...

btw, I was joking... don't sweat it. I don't get so easily offended :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codf4ther:
I don't know if you sent this over via PM but I'd be interested in reading it too. I tried replacing the Generic_OEM.rar in the kitchen folder with the one from vin, but the kitchen won't startup after i do that.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
The reason is that Vin's packages are not "kitchen ready". What he posted is in essence a dump of the Mega rom. The packages have to be worked on in a one by one basis to get them to work with PPCK. There is a nice guide on how to do that in the forum at PPCKitchen.org.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lewy1:
Thanks! Great Info I'll add it to the first post.
[Click General] belgabelga:
I people

Can someone help me here

here i can´t download NDrive Software for my HTC Tattoo and work

the most a have download don´t work "NDrive_9.2.15_rc3":mad:

help me please:(
[Click General] fluffboy:
I don't know what you're trying to say
[Click General] zuba:
9.3.02

that's the one that works on tattoo. but with some issues
[Click General] belgabelga:
mi English is not very good

i need NDRIVE to my TATTOO

can you say where i can download the software :confused:
[Click General] Zecanilis:
You can download it from the market.

Just search it in the market.

Cheers
[HD2 General] ldx00:
I know there is another short post about this, but wanted to get a quick poll from people about whether this is even a fault. The phone does not appear to be malfunctioning.

I have noticed a rattle in the head of the device (this is not related to the volume button, mine is a bit loose, but it doesn't really bother me). If I shake it perpendicular to the screen, it makes a small rattling sound. If however, I tap it lightly near the back speaker, it makes a large and rather unnerving rattling sound (if you're going to test for this, please hold onto the volume button to rule this out). The issue with this is that when I take a call and the volume is quite high, whatever is loose appears to rattle sometimes, making the unrelated but highly annoying audio distortion problem even worse!

I have managed to get opinions from 2 other users already. One has it, the other doesn't. That makes 2 that have it and 1 that doesn't so far.

Any ideas on what it might be, also appreciated!
[HD2 General] Jack E:
Mine does it, i suppose it could be the camera lense =/
[HD2 General] bobetto2008:
I notice the rattle, and have noticed previously a nasty distortion type rattling sound when on a call.....
[HD2 General] All Day On XDA:
Mine phone started doing that after using the camera edge to open beer bottles. But only after the 12th bottle....
[HD2 General] sasukeanime:
mine too...

My phone does it too, when i shake the phone it doesnt sound but when i tap the speaker it makes the loose kinda screw soundm it almost sounds like when the lens is focusing it makes a sort of click its almost the same so i would assume it is the lens, after all my phone is working great, only the screen fails to respond sometimes when typing an sms or using the sense keyboard...

i think it is the lens

:)
[HD2 General] g.lewarne:
it is the lens, is has a small magnetic mechanism, similar to a solenoid to move the lens in and out for focusing. If it didnt have a little rattle, your autofocuser is stuck :)
[HD2 General] ldx00:
OK thanks for the replies, looks like pretty much everyone has got it, but curiously, I got a reply from HTC on the matter, concluding that there might be an issue with the handset. Admittedly I asked about the sound distortion too, but they recommended a replacement?!? Sounds like they don't know about this or just blanket recommend a replacement if they're not sure.

I'll probably stick with the unit though, other than those 2 issues, my handset is perfect.

Thanks again for all the responses!
[HD2 General] Coatezy:
Hmmm I just rang htc about this has mine as developed the fault.. Also reported that my bottom buttons are starting to peel. Not to sure if i should send it off now or not.. Problem is.. It didn't do it before so why is it now? The guy on the phone was hinting towards me maybe dropping the phone I think and said I may incur a charge if they don't believe it is a problem with the phone.. Which I no I shouldn't but find really offending because I treat my phones like a baby and has never been placed on a surface hard in its life (and always placed on top of the htc case) let alone dropped.. :eek: But I know there are a lot of people who don't mind spending £500 on a phone and not treating it to well so I guess they have to presume this.. :rolleyes:

Anyway..

I also think it is coming from the camera area.. I never use the vibrate function so turned that on for a bit to see if that would make any difference and also used the camera for a while to see if it was the auto focus but still the same. :( If the noise wasn't so obvious I wouldn't send it in for repair but I think this noise is going to do my head in.. (also want the buttons replaces as they are starting to peel)

If they try to put the noise down to misuse I think I will be selling up and moving back to apple.. :( Shame because I love the HD2. :(

Just out of interest my phone came from one of the 1st batches from Clove in November.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] osirisHTC:
I have a stock HTC TMobile TP2. WM 6.5

Can I add a link to a program (a program I use alot) to the slider ?

Is there another way to have fast access to it ?

Ideas ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Ozzie Sandoval:
I would also like to know this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] osirisHTC:
ie. to add a link to a Program in Spot 1 and 2 !

:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] osirisHTC:
Anyone ?

Can you add an additional Programs Button ?
[General Questions and Answers] diego_gb8:
Hi, I just wanted to know if there is some way to save battery, I've bought an I-mate 6150 and I cant make it last for 1 day,, please I need some help :(
[General Questions and Answers] Fallen Spartan:
Turn off bluetooth, beam, wifi, data connections

Ensure your phone hasn't got automatic updates activated for anything, i.e. weather/stock/emails etc etc especially if set to update every 30 mins etc

Also in wifi settings, ensure wifi is set to 'best battery'

You could also dim screen slightly either permanently or after a period of time if not used.

Also check if any apps installed are working in background eating up battery

Simple things like these should help.
[General Questions and Answers] fwt:
Good hints so far ...

You can also take a look here

http://www.wmskins.com/blog/how-to-increase-battery-life-of-windows-mobiles
[General Questions and Answers] Fallen Spartan:
Nice link, reading over this myself to see if I can improve my own ;)
[General Questions and Answers] diego_gb8:
TY guys, but I have already did all of those hints to my phone, don't you think it could possibly be my SPB Shell 3.5.3 ? :S
[General Questions and Answers] fwt:
Here's what I do to find out my Battery Life Time:

- Flash ROM or Hardreset

- do not install any App or activate automatic Updates for at least 2 - 3 days (at least 3 x Full charging Processes) to find out the Battery Time on the naked ROM

- do a little Log (how many calls ... how many SMS ... high usage over the day ... low usage over the day)

- after these first days activate only things inside the ROM (eMail ... WiFi ... Weather ... what ever your ROM delivers) => still don't install anything new on your device (again for at least 3 x Full charging Processes)

- write your findings down

- Install Apps ... but ... only one at the same time

- monitor the behavior of your Batt

- You can also use Tools like BatTest or BattLog to get "better" (measurable) results

That way I found some Taskbar Modification and other Tools to be Battery eater (nice Icons but short BattLifeTime)

Good look

fwt
[General Questions and Answers] diego_gb8:
battery log says: 71% (dunno about what), 3,912v, 3,4ºC and 280ma; is this good for my phone? :S

Questions:

1: what is a ROM?

2: what means flashing it and what could it fix? :|

please, help me >.<, I got out from my home today, leaving the phone with 100% battery life, but when I came back (5 hours later) it was 70%.
[G1 Accessories] jrm1508:
I just ordered a 2680mAh battery from ebay, has anyone tried one this size?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...674706&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1742wt_940
[G1 Accessories] MeatyCoins:
i have the mugen 3900mah battery and i usually end the day with 30% left, or i drain it completley. idk how people go days with it
[G1 Accessories] jrm1508:
my battery will last me from about 6am to about 9pm, so hopefully this one ca last me 2 days, or i can just use my phone heavily and not worry about it dieing in the middle of the day. how much did that battery cost you, this one was the biggest one i could find.
[G1 Accessories] MeatyCoins:
$80 and its the biggest one so far
[G1 Accessories] julinjoy:
mine GT-B5512 battery gives 1-half days backup that is pretty fine for me.
[G1 Accessories] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
Just wondering if anyone is still using their phone???
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Anartic:
Who here feels that they were ripped off now that a new MyTouch 3G with these better specs is out? From what I've read, this phone is exactly the same as the regular MT3G, but with a better specs. To be honest, I'm just venting anger, but I'd still like to know how other MT3G owners feel.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Gusjdt:
Yeah somewhat. It's something they should've offered from the beginning with regards to RAM. The 3.5mm jack I don't care for too much since I use my ipod for music. The virtual keyboard also drives me crazy sometimes, which is why I - at first - thought I should've gone with the G1 but now I am holding off for the Motorola Shadow if it even exists and if it even will come to T-Mobile, let alone the US.

Or at least a high end qwerty android phone. The N1 looks tempting though...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Anartic:
I might be getting the N1 after my T-Mobile contract ends, but then again that's going to be a few months, so I'll wait to see what better phones come out.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] bunu:
I feel jipped!!!!!

I wish HTC made only one HTC Magic/MT3G and that was the 32A board. I don't care about the 3.5 mm jack but the extra RAM is what made me mad.

Damn you HTC for making a 32B board Magic/MT3G and damn you t-mobile for being cheap and getting the 32B board version
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] C0dy:
I don't since I just returned my Mytouch for the new version. Loving the 3.5mm Jack, and it feels much snappier. Now I have to wait for Cyanogen Mod to be compatible with the phone.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Gusjdt:
C0dy, were you within the 14-day buyer's remorse period or were you able to swap your old mytouch for the new one without any problems?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] trexxcrap2:
i just received my, mt3g yesterday and its the older version and i love it. i had the g1 since june and this is so much better.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] bunu:
Have you heard of the HTC Scorpion? That phone is a rumor right now but so far the rumors said that it has a 1.5 ghz processor and maybe running android 2.2 (I highly think that it will be android 2.1) and the best part......IT HAS A HARD QWERTY KEYBOARD!!!!

Hope this phone is true and is coming to t-mobile.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] C0dy:
I was in the buyers remorse 14 day return.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] cougar694u:
I wouldn't say I feel jipped, but I am slightly disappointed. When I bought the mt3g, I didn't realize there was a difference between them, and assumed it was virtually the same as the others.

After learning about the RAM deficit, I was frustrated, but this is somewhat normal with techie devices. No matter what you buy, something will show up that's better/faster/stronger/etc. Had I known the fender edition was slated to be released, i might have held off for the few months (dunno if I could have held off 4 months, though). Ignoring the 32A/32B difference, it would have simply been for the 16g card and 3.5mm jack.

I still think it's a superior phone to the G1 and my 2g iPhone, and I still love the mt3g, despite it's faults. I don't think I've been this satisfied with a phone in years.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] r3s-rt:
I'm going with Nokia for now on. i seen an E90 a few YEARS ago. (actually 2.... lucky bastards cost like 1 grand) literally like 2 or 3 years ago and i owned android then. The only thing android really has on it is how pretty it looks.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] FenderGuy:
Sorry to say this post has no merit, how you going to complain about a phone out now when it wasn't available then? I use to work for T-mobile and at the time the MY3G was the best phone out, how about them G1 users?

Technology is changing so fast that manufactures are putting out more phone quicker then they use to it the past.

I have been waiting to get a hold of the HD2, guess what if I get it, there is already a quicker phone in the works already to replace that.

The MT3G is good stuff but I'm over it and require something quicker now
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] visitador02:
Just got this twit from HTC, are you guys talking about this:

http://ow.ly/16umh

They are now 32A boards, right?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Anartic:
Well I'm complaining because they're already releasing another android phone that is exactly the same as the old MT3G, but with better specs.

I know there's been other phones like this, for example Blackberries, but I'm sure there would have been leaked information about the upcoming upgraded phone.

As far as I knew there was going to be a Fender version released, but since I wasn't really fond of the look I decided to just get the white one, little did I know, T-Mobile would be announcing the release of a better MT3G, with the original colors, days after the Fender version was released. If I knew about the enhanced MT3G months before, I wouldn't have bought the one I have now.

Yes, we're talking about that one.