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[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] afma_afma:
I think it is simple and straight forward.

Taking the user into section by section in related categories is exciting.

I am hoping that it allows multitasking.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] afma_afma:
[Microapples] hahahahaha :D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Cavanti:
It's ok. The thing bothering me the most is some of the coloring themes. I'm not really a big fan of all this light blue stuff. But if they let me change it, it's ok.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] kel16harris:
i hope they give an option to make the squares "clear" or see through, or just change the squares all together into icons:D
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] spam.anonym:
i miss the "windows-flair"! its prety for multimedia but not so for professional. i also miss the startmenu. i would have a menu (like the startmenu) and the homescreen (like this winpho7 prevs), but i havent any seen a startmenu. is it present?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Irishpride:
I agree with you 100%! From what I've seen of the sms/email screenshots, it does look a WHOLE lot better. SMS-Chat saved WM's messaging.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
I saw hands on video which said you can customize the start screen.

He demoed how to add something there.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] xplode:
I the demoed OS have the final looks i will most likely not switch to it, looks incomplete to me, graphics have a lot more to improve, even if it has some 3d acceleration the UI elements make it look like 2d.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sunnymiu:
Although the trend of UI designing is emphasizing 'simplicity', WP7 is way too simplified. Nothing beautiful can be seen because there are no elements can show its beauty. I am not interest in a plain-color square-filled homepage.

Personally, the design sense of HTC Sense are really tasteful for me but the smoothness of WM6 is so poor. I love informative screen but not losing a bit of sense of beauty.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] xplode:
tottaly agree, but it can be reveloped further in 3d, take a look on Windows 7 Media Center, it uses similar structure and looks good, but if this is final WP7 UI i will definately switch to another mobile OS
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vangrieg:
You're just not used to it, but faux 3D is going away. In any case I'm sure this will be skinnable.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] karouri200:
This UI sucks the 1st photos of the system before it came to reality were better:mad:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] chmun77:
i find that the fonts are way to huge and wasting lots of spaces on the screen due to the unnecessary huge fonts.

And i think some of the screens are actually exposing a little bit of the next available screen on the right on purpose. I don't understand what is the need for that.

And also, imagine the user has lots of stuffs pinned on the start page. And it ended up that one has to keep scrolling along the long time in order to reach the bottom of the list?!

:cool:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
Most of the "huge" stuff isn't fully on the screen at one time (it spans multiple panels in the hub).

The 'hints' have a huge purpose. It tells you that there's more on the next page and an idea of what's there. There's just enough to give you insight.

I can't fathom why you'd have that much stuff on your start screen. How many icons do you have on your computer desktop? Too many defeats the purpose in the first place.

Check out what Yahoo's Chief Design Architect has to say about the UI.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] owenw:
Thus the name "Shortcuts"
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vangrieg:
Great article, thanks for the link!

The site also has another one, which makes a great point about information density which doesn't seem to be that great with this new UI. It appears that a bit too many swipes will be needed for some operations, which is not good.

Another concern I have with it is understanding where you are at the moment. Not in which hub exactly, but at which part of the hub; it wouldn't hurt to have text "links" on top that would work as shortcuts and at the same time indicate your current position.

We're not looking at a finished product though, and the design team's focus was probably on emphasizing discoverability of features rather than "productivity", if you will. It wouldn't be too difficult to achieve both, I guess.

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[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
All I know is I can access all apps from the home screen with no more work then it takes to access them now by getting to the start menu on 6.5. The social networking things may take more swipes but usually when you're using stuff like that you're not pressed for time anyway.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Shasarak:
Right now, 77.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] vangrieg:
There's one more unknown, by the way, about this new UI: how will it handle notifications? We have the current model, also replicated in Android, where new events show as icons on the top bar, and pressing (or sliding) that bar will give us a list, one way or another. There's also the iPhone way, where notifications just pop up over whatever you are doing, and then you have to go back to the home screen and launch respective apps to see what's going on in case you dismissed a popup. The latter way is very annoying, IMO, it was added as an afterthought, and the reason for that implementation is lack of a functional top bar. WP7 doesn't show much hope here as its top bar doesn't seem to be clickable either.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] ramdroid77:
I heard something that the top bar will be visible if you hit in that area....
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] nemo0405:
i like the visuals but it seems like there are too many screens to scroll through to get to where u wanna be...id rather have one touch everything... like here are your contacts...recent calls...and all that in one tab instead of going from screen to screen and i also this its gonna eat at the RAM going back and forth through all of these tabs... but it looks like the gaming experience and multimedia experience is going to be very very very very good but chances that just those two things wont convince me to buy a 7 phone just because i love the feel and the useablility of windows mobile 6.5.X...and this has kept me from getting an iphone or an android phone...but i guess i wont really know until i get to use it for my self so im gonna keep my fingers crossed and hope its everything i want it to be and more... yupp :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] rahulelectra:
First time I saw WP7 pics/ video i said to me is this is what microsoft want to gain its market. But after watching it couple of times i feel its actually practical and functional.

But to me solid color tiles are bit old and not at all looks futuristic. I believe if it was some sort of transparent glassy tiles would look good.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] thamarshall:
I think its perhaps promising... But if I look back in the past years of using windows mobile on various phones, one thing keeps popping up in my head.

The animations have always been sluggish (better with the years, but still sluggish). And the more power you ask of the machine, the less it leaves for the animations. In my opinion an animation should always be perfect, it does not matter that an app gets slowed down for a sec, the animation is what makes the os and device feel speedy, not its raw power.

This not only goes for the windows ce / mobile but also for windows on the pc (btw, pc is historical an IBM compatible computer, but for a while now the term is more generally used - which I find kind of annoying :p )

That said, I believe there is more future in community developed open source, plus the interfaces of phones that are using (at-least for the most part) open source software are pretty good-to-perfect in my opinion. I believe that in the end, Microsoft will probably not find much more market share with this windows phone 7 they are promising.

After 6 years my next phone will likely be meamo / meego or even android as they are currently far more attractive to me than the windows phone 7 ideas. iphone is a no go ( I hate dictators :p )

-my 2 cents-
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
Agreed,

I really hope the animation can be turned OFF completely, or set to FAST/SHORT animation.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] crd22:
I like the WP7 UI. It's much more modern than previous WM UI's and is something unique, in a good way.

Honestly, I don't really mind the WM6 UI and would be fine with an upgraded version, but this change seems like a good one.

I do very much agree that the animations NEED to have options to quicken (by a lot) or turned off completely.

Also, I really hope we get some customizability with the UI, not just with hubs. At the very minimum, I hope we can choose themes and have the ability to make our own.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] APK-1:
I have some problems with Windows Phone 7 Series UI...

Lock Screen: Why is the month name (ie February) cut off and not displayed fully on the screen?

Home Screen: Why is the Pictures hub tile twice as big as the other tiles?

Why are the hub tiles headings (Pictures, Music & Video, People) made to not fit the one screen?

The screens look as if they were made to be displayed on a netbook. I like the Windows Mobile 6.5.x lock screen and home screen. Why not compress the weather and time allowing a total of 6 tiles to be displayed with the sense touch on the bottom ogf the home screen? I do like the Windows Phone 7 series logic of the hubs and how they will interact with other hubs, but have a problem with the issues that I listed.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
As you also seen in the Zune HD, that's the new UI style from Microsoft which teasing you to swipe or scroll horizontally.

Meaning, there is another screen next.

At least, thats the intention ..

If I am not mistaken, there are 2 sizes of tiles. Small (1 tile) and big (2 tiles).

That's good question. For the lock screen, I would like to see all information without having to scroll. But probably you can customize it, not sure, I hope though .... :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] matckal:
i think its realy nice

but more feature and more eye candy design is needed
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] irdawood:
They overflow so you know that there is still another page to scroll to. Its a new UI concept, if they had 'music' on one page how would you know there are subsequent pages without arrows to tell you?

Personally i think it works very well.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] KayK:
check out the following link to know more bout why the "cut off" UI in WP7S: WP7S UI explained
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] addicus:
I see where they are coming from but it's still annoying!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Tanmay®:
It feels annoying even before you've used it? For me the whole panoramic interface works just fine! A nice breather than all those stupid iPhone clone UIs around these days and that counts Android too, grids and grids of icons feels just so boring now!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] KayK:
i have to agree with Tanmay®...cant comment as didnt try the UI yet but it definitely a fresh and innovative approach compare to just icons, icons and more icons...bravo to microsoft for being bold in making such a move, but like many i prefer if there's an option to tone down the animation...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
Yes, I would love to disable or shorten that animation, if possible.

But, that animation could be used as to wait some background process?

You know, like progress bar or hour glass timer animation ...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] addicus:
I am annoyed before I've used it because visually that doesn't give me what I like. I don't like seeing incomplete words on the screen. I don't have to use the UI to get that out of it because that's what my eyes are for.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] KayK:
IMO, maybe that's the reason for the animation (partially anyway)...instead of showing progress bar / hour glass, maybe microsoft decided to use some animation instead to hide the loading and at the same time giving the impression that the OS is more responsive...

just like the iphone, when launching / starting some functions...example starting the camera, i dont know bout you guys, but comparing the time taken (by iphone 3G) from the camera button is pressed to the camera ready to be used is almost the same as my HD...the only different is that iphone show some animation while HD doesnt really show any animation and will just load the "camera functions"...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] johnlujl123:
I totally agree with this member. The UI of WP7 is sooo unattractive. Maybe I will consider using it, only if there's a customization pack (like Sense UI) available for the WP7.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] chiks19018:
Now all we need to figure out where they are going :D :eek:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] flyboyovyick:
Reminds me of Zune and Windows Media Center

flyboy
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
I like the look of the UI. You can easily see what going on and if there's something past the page your on. I'd go play with a Zune before you say whether or not you don't like the UI. Of course that's just gonna be one little peice.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] RustyGrom:
Throw out what you know and be open to change. The Zune HD UI is dead sexy and this is very similar. If you go into it with the idea that "cutting off words is stupid" you're just ignoring it because it's different. It's sleek, fast, and just plain gorgeous. They definitely didn't sacrifice function to make way for style.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] chiks19018:
Can you raed this? Only 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
Lol that's a really old trick. The way I see it is it's not like the word is just cut off, it's just a little hint that there is more to see by panning left or right.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] addicus:
Hold on buckaroo! I said I was annoyed, not that I thought it was ugly. I still think it's the hottest thing out and I'm in no way turned off enough by the writing not fitting to not want to try it first. My wife and kids are annoying too, but I'm not going anywhere.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
I think we all will have to try it to see how productive we can be on it. It looks damn cool to me and hopefully it's just as usable.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] johnlujl123:
Who's buckaroo??? Anyways, it takes one to know one!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] addicus:
Okay - you win!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] johnlujl123:
I already know that! U are just retarded! :p
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] badboy848:
ya well the beauty in a compicated ui is its sophistication

and easy ui like the iphone is so simplistic and barely customizable

wat microsoft is tryin to do now is to attract the consumers who are attracted to simple phones which are easy to use.

i for 1 would like my fone to be complicated so tht ill have to learn its functions and features.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] addicus:
I disagree. I think what they are trying to do is make it very easy for everyone to have the information they find necessary for everyday life not only immediately accessible, but constantly updated and accommodating. That's why they keep letting people know they can pin any contact, program, etc... to the home screen. That's why they have Facebook integration with live updating built into the system on the home screen. That's why they are making it so all the contacts are quickly accessible and capable of giving you all the information on most social networks. At the same time the Calendar and Agenda encompass both business and personal appointments, Outlook is fully capable of being synced along with your Yahoo and Gmail accounts.

What they are trying to do is make the phone elegant, smooth, interactive and informative and from what I've seen they've accomplished this. Sadly we may be losing some of the many things we love from previous Mobile OS systems they've had, but weighing the pro and cons is something we really can't completely do until about 9 months from now.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] chiks19018:
I have just the phone for you.

In order to get to the dialpad , you need to press the power button, the down volume button and the "start" button at the same time.

Enjoy.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pilgrim011:
So, it's all about social networks... And what about non-teenagers and non-retards?:D

So what? It's already like this with WM 6.x.

No, as far as I can see, they're trying to make an OS for underage people, retards, music and gaming fans which don't care about the fact that they don't have multitasking, file system access etc.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] seed_al:
+1 agreed, really looks like that.

But I must say I like the UI itself.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] chiks19018:
heh heh

I have been saying this for a long time...

iphone is a hit because it was designed with handicapped people in mind.

Tells you a lot....about regular people having fun with handicapped people's facilities eg. scooter in mall, self opening doors, parking closer to the entrance to the mall, etc.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] addicus:
How about you get your head out of the sand. I was using 6000 minutes a month 2.5 years ago and always on the road. Those minutes were business minutes. If I had a UI that allowed me to access my information better than I would have been all for it because it would have made me more efficient. Just because MS is advertising/aiming the information they've released towards the people that buy the phone in droves (social networking) doesn't mean that it won't be a valuable business asset. Keep your mind closed to the possibilities and you will never find them.

Also if the damn thing runs right from the beginning we won't have to have our hands so deep in the registry we feel like surgeons. We only go there now to fix the things they've done wrong over and over and over. May be they will actually learn from all the great improvements XDA Devs have created. When I see the videos of the contacts and other things it looks like they have to me. I came here to make my phones run properly. What if it actually did it from the get go? I'd be here to see the cutting edge programs that the great devs here could make and not for the constant fixes we are forced to apply on the current OS.

I mean HTC was forced to basically create Sense so the damn operating system was easy to use. Why are you guys fighting the progress when we all know the current OS's are flawed? Isn't is MS's job and duty to eliminate as many of those flaws as possible?
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] chiks19018:
+ 1

XDA forum should now be providing better utilities and programs rather than providing bug fixes as it does currently. Not to say that that job was bad, but that should be the past. The future should be different.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] pilgrim011:
This is not how it's for me. I want to be able to access registry because I want to have a control over OS just like on "big" Windows. Windows 7 is great, but we still do have file system access, don't we? All in all, I just want that my Pocket PC is able to do almost everything that my PC can do. That's exactly the case right now with WM 6.x, and WP7 is locked just like i****. I don't want that.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] gogol:
Too bad for you, Microsoft already stated that WP7 is a phone, it is not a PC.

All in all, WP7 is a new platform, completely new. New OS, new hardware, new applications, new UI, new paradigm, new experience, new market, new development platform, everything new.

It will be the same situation like when iPhone or Android first released.

Thus, if it does not suit you, you can still stay with your current platform.

Oh btw, this specific thread is about WP7 user interface (UI).
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] havox22:
iphone was a hit cuz it was easy to use & it looked great plus it was smooth & no where near as laggy as wm not to mention there apps/games took a dump on 98% of what we have...how was it for handicapped people?? Because it worked??

so im guessing u go thru the non automatic doors (if the store doesnt have them do u not go in?) & park at the furthest parking spot at the mall? lol yeah right you make no sense
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] reeco:
By saying this, it make's you sound more stupid than the people you are trying to put your view across about.

But just to break it down for you:

You = Idiot

:rolleyes:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Divine_Madcat:
Late to the party, but I hate the look of the UI.

I guess i am wierd, but I have always liked the "Windows-like" UI. I grew up using things like a Phillips Velo 1, and am still using my x7501 to this day. The cute blocky-bubbly UI completely turns me off; not to mention, I really hate the way things fall off the edge of the screen.

That said, I own an ipod as well, and in terms of productivity (because of the UI, among other features), could never rate it as high as my WM machines. The iPod is for fun things, and the WM gets things done.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] Kloc:
Office suite is still going to be there and probably run more smoothly. Have you looked at the demo for outlook? It has great sorting selection! All->unRead->Urgent->Flagged. all by just swiping over on the screen. And the calander looks good aswell.

I don't think this will be a downer for business users at all. As long as they can get the apps the need to do their works on it.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] addicus:
Also it seems as if Microsoft is really out to make it so developers can make compatible quality product easily. That is a big benefit. That is one of the reasons behind the baselines of the processor, screen types (resolution wise), etc....

Divine Madcat - I get your point and I semi agree about the look, but I have a hard time seeing how the UI we've been shown so far will not make production easier. In fact, the more videos I watch the more I believe productivity will be the main benefit of the system whether for business or pleasure.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] johnlujl123:
I'm totally with this guy! :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] kcim:
I like this new UI, call me a social network whore, but I just like to stay in contact with people all across the globe. I love being able to see what other are upto, and meeting new people.

I like all the blocks on the home page, and the zune-like other things work for me too. I cant wait to toy around with it, since photo's and video's never do much justice to the real thing.

This in combination with the new Microsoft Courier make me feel that Microsoft is finally heading into a direction that I like.