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[General Topics] keyofhappy:
donate: To make a donation; to give away something of value to support or contribute towards a cause or for the benefit of another.

selling: the exchange of goods for a sum of money.

buying: obtain by purchase; acquire by means of a financial transaction.

just to clarify.

in order to get the beta what do you have to do?

"selling: the exchange of goods for a sum of money.

buying: obtain by purchase; acquire by means of a financial transaction."

if you consider this work for us, don't.

if you consider developing touchxperience a loss of time and money, well thats your fault. sell it, and make your money. either way, it will be leaked, bootlegged, given away for free, or whatever you decide to call it.

either way, schaps get over it.
[General Topics] liable:
read number 8 out loud to yourself,twice if you have to
[General Topics] schaps:
@liable Thanks for posting forum rules but I am able to read, contrary to you!
[General Topics] azaberl:
@liable, keyofhappy

Would you be happier if Mr.Schaps made Touchxperience a commercial product?

As Mr.Schaps said he needs more phones to test the program, therefore he has to buy them (unless you're willing to donate yours).

Something for you to think about: if one hour of programing costs 10€ and Schaps spent 2000 hours (speculating) developing the program, does this give any perspective?
[General Topics] keyofhappy:
woah, way to degrade yourself.

i mean if you want to lose your respect by demeaning other with insults, thats completely up to you.

considering you are what age? an adult i assume.

while your at it, start asking for donations for schooling.

make it a blind school, and just keep exploiting the word donation.
[General Topics] NI-knight:
@liable

Why do you come here, and make an ass out of yourself?

You really don't got anything to gain, with that kind of behavior!

You are only making things worse for people who have faith in Schap's project, and making Schaps doubt his OWN project!!

Is there someone, who likes your comments here or gains something by reading them??

That is just total garbage to me!

Please, Schaps! Just let comments like liable's go straight to Recycle Bin, and concentrate fully to YOUR project! You are really good at what you are doing, and it's nobodys right to steal it by putting it to some warez-site, without permission.
[General Topics] keyofhappy:
i could care less, if he made it a commercial product.

him needing more phones, has nothing to do with me.

but hey, i need more food in my house to eat.

and since you know of that, you should buy me some.

no, that doesn't make sense.
[General Topics] liable:
Ive been thanked by plenty of people for this so im sorry if you dont like it but sh*t happens
[General Topics] azaberl:
I don't think that food in your house would feed half of xda community

@mods

please lock this thread
[General Topics] keyofhappy:
metaphor.

but if you want to make it literal so you can be right, go ahead.
[General Topics] liable:
@mod can i post this
[General Topics] DaveShaw:
As per the forum rules (that you posted), please respect the other forum members. Also making second accounts to deliberately create trouble results in permanent bans for both accounts.

As schaps has stated many times, those who donate to him are eligible to try the buggy and unfinished alpha / beta versions of TouchXperience. The free public releases will be much more polished and stable.

I'm sorry you feel upset because you didn't read and just thought you were buying a finished piece of software.

It's people like you who come on this forum, and insult someone's hardwork and software and provide download links that you were not requested to post that cause the developers of this forum to leave, or simply stop posting.

Dave
[General Topics] NI-knight:
That's true, you happened!

I still don't understand why you continue to diss other people's honest work, and all he asks for, is for people to help him contribute even MORE!!

..or are you having your own project, and are you afraid that you can't compete with Schap's work and try to smoke him out?

I got two letters for you: uf, and not in that order!
[General Topics] markj113:
well have to admit it I just downloaded a warez version to try it and I have to say im blown away by it. Truely amazing program with massive potential and I will now be contributing this friday when I get paid.

keep up the good work and I hope others who like the software contribute financially too.
[General Topics] DaveShaw:
Please stop finding articles that include the download link and posting them. I'll just keep removing them.

Dave
[General Topics] liable:
im not dissin any one , yeah i leaked his work how many times have you bootleged a dvd or a cd, i just put out a copy to those who wanted to try before they gave anything whats so wrong with that, that gives people the option to donate if they like the work.We are just asking for dontions right it is a free app?
[General Topics] liable:
Im sorry for that. not a problem
[General Topics] DaveShaw:
The thing is, that it's not ready, if someone pays money for this, expecting the next SPB Moblie Shell, then they will get a shock. Only allowing donators to test the application, keeps the number of people reporting bugs managable. It also stops people posting "OMGBBQWTF!!!1!, this is the worst software I've ever seen", because they downloaded before they read.

I beleive schaps when he says that the full release will be free, I havn't donated for my own reason:

I don't have time to try a buggy beta version, I use my phone daily and don't want to be messing about and patching it, testing bugs/fixes.

I have a good friend IRL who has a Android phone, but donated to this project as a parting gift to schaps as he left WM; this was for all the work he's put in over the years.

Dave
[General Topics] Fireslave:
I´m testing right now with my Imagio(HTC Whitestone), and it works very fast and nice:). I´ll post a video (if Schap let me do it) with a review.
[General Topics] shu8i:
rofl this is all it's about. stealing all the credit from shaps. omg i can't believe this. how old are you? 12? your stupidity is beyond imagination.
[General Topics] liable:
13 1/2 you gonna come to my party............read the post ive been thanked for leaking it.I never took any credit or do i want for this. just dont fell a DEV should

scam people for 2 yrs taking donations and promising a public release. now its out there if you like it donate if you dont delete the cab from your phone and move on
[General Topics] schaps:
If I did not release it publicly it was for good reasons! This alpha version and especially this build is for testing and helping to diagnose the problems with various devices and ROMs. For that reason it has a different implementation from the final/public version and is clearly not for daily use, so it has no interest for the non beta testers, excepted for curiosity. Furthermore this build is going to expire because it was a temporary version waiting for the new release, so people who are getting TouchXperience working properly could not keep it for a long time...

Don't try to justify yourself, what you did is disrespectful towards my work and violates copyright laws! Do you really think that any of those who download TouchXperience on warez sites will contribute? Sure not! And even if they were willing to contribute they could not... Did you add or mention any donation links in your downloads and posts? Of course not!
[General Topics] pilgrim011:
schaps, please don't pay attention to these morons, just concentrate on your work. We (99% of xda community) know that you're doing a great job, and this app could possibly be the greatest thing in WinMo world in a long time, so don't be frustrated because there are few ungrateful individuals.;)
[General Topics] Bizybone:
I find it funny that ROM cookers can get donations for pulling all available freeware software together in their "melting pot", but schaps isn't allowed to get donations for writing the actual programs most of these chefs are currently using, or will be using. As mentioned earlier in the thread writing programs is very time consuming and expensive. We're talking about $x per line of code here.

And he's doing this for free? You guys are unbelievable.

I donated whether or not I was going to be a beta tester. I have patience. You guys are a pack of Piranhas. The same ones that will beg for him to release an alpha to you and then whine about how buggy it is, like one chef did here a few pages back. No sh*t it's a beta!

We donated and as a token of his appreciation he gave us a sneak peak of his project. He didn't twist our arms. We didn't buy anything.
[General Topics] liable:
Indeed i did link your page to the download, you have a guy a few post back say hey got it then said he would donate , they should have a choice test then pay
[General Topics] liable:
Thats one.
[General Topics] jagan2:
@Liable: I Think you are misunderstanding bro. Listen, you are showing rules for donation and all that we all agree but here schaps have promised us to release it free for public when it is completed, and now giving it for only donators for what? Its because as said by other members so that to manage the testers, and help him to fund his project.

If you still not convinced, a very good example is in front of you that is lesscro's wp7 skin for wad he was simply selling his skin in the name of donation, and soon like you many ppl showed the rule there and that thread got banned for permanently from xda, but the same has not been done to this thread coz he has promised to make it free. So try to understand.
[General Topics] liable:
ok so lets see if that happens here , lets see if theres an actual public version. I think he will milk these as long as they still donate
[General Topics] Nicaragüense:
Dont feel Bad Schaps, there are plenty of hard working people who appreciate a good product. Those people are generally willing to help with donations and expect nothing in return. If I find something I use alot even if it is free, I will donate because someone must have spent lots of time and money on it and that shows in a good finished product. The Fact that your product was leaked on warez sites, even if it is not the full program should actually be flattering.. Yes, it does not really make sense, but the fact that your product has gotten enough attention to appear on warez sites means people are eagerly waiting to get their hands on it.. Rather than let it bother you , just step it up and show them what Schaps can do. Make an astounding final product while you have have everyone's attention.

For those who keep replying or directing posts to those involved in warez, what's the point..(except for the mods of course since they need to uphold the forum rules and keep this place clean) Just report the post. Let the mods do their work and move along, you cannot change those who do that sort of thing. It will go on however unethical it may be. The thread is still about Schaps' program and not about the whole leak/warez soap opera unfolding. I always check back here to read the comments about the program and to read about any progress, yet now i have gone through a few pages of nothing but back and forth clamour about this and that and the other thing.. geeez..

So I am interested on seeing a video of the fellow Whitestone user's experience with this program, will there be new shots or videos soon for us to enjoy Schaps?
[General Topics] Mikulec:
The last few pages should be called: Feeding the troll.

People, please stop arguing with liable.
[General Topics] ganjaweed:
bloodclot.....rah!!!!
[General Topics] 4D3:
This isnt even the point, schaps offered BETA TESTING to donators. there is nothing more complicated than that, of you dont have the £ or dont want to donate the £ this is your solution:

shut up and wait like a good child!!!

this is what schaps has decided, if you dont like it who cares!!

SOME SENSE!!!

ROFL!!! i did say this a few pages back, the mods here enforce what they want, personally if i was a mod liable woud get a permanent ban instantly just for posting warez DIRECTLY related to this site, then posting them in the thread concerned, but here on XDA the mod policy is somewhat backwards.

for eg, I get banned for getting annoyed when people repeatedly break rules 1,3,4 & 5, these relate to searching, repeat posts etc etc, and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING gets done, the SECOND i get annoyed at answering the same question for the 1000th time and put a slightly spike answer i get a ban for being rude, i have had 2 bans in quick succession from the SAME mod, when i pm mods i know asking for help/advice it gets ignored.

I am given NO consideration over the thousands of bricks i have fixed, or the number of people i have helped out with servicing their handsets and saving people hundreds of pounds each time i fix a handset, the second a sarcastic answer or even, my last ban was for use of an acronym/abreviation namely "STFU" as we all know this is like "PWNED" its not really bad its internet slang, yet i got banned.

this is why the HTC HD2 forum has turned into a complete circus!! there are so many unmoderated IDIOTS residing here now, and what seems to be a weak mod team....

which is EXACTLY the reason NOTHING has been done to protect schaps and discipline liable!!

@ schaps: I love your work, and i am happy to be part of the testers, but this is a friendly warning... regardless of how correct/just/moral you are NOONE will protect you... not even mods!!!

sad isnt it, xda used to be the home of the elite, now it is the home of every non-technically minded gibbons who "want an new phone but its got to be better phone than my mates iphone" and these people are not interested in contributing to the forum or learning, and just suck it dry of things they THINK they are entitled to by right.
[General Topics] schaps:
I don't really care that TouchXperience alpha is leaked on warez sites and P2P, because people who download warez would never give a cent so it doesn't matter for me whether they get it now or later. But it has negative side effects on the project, and this makes me upset and demotivated...

Since it has been leaked on warez sites my server keep getting hacked, so it makes us impossible to work on beta testing. And this leaked test version gives a bad image of the project with an unusable and unfinished version, far different from the final product. Most of people will not be able to get TouchXperience smoothly working on their devices without any help. This is precisely why I did not want to make the beta public, to assist a few beta testers is ok, but I can't assist the whole world! I'm already getting tons of emails from people who beg to download TouchXperience, but now I'm sure I will get tons of emails from people complaining and needing my help. This is huge waste of time for me...
[General Topics] ranasrule:
do you have any way of tracking who leaked it ?
[General Topics] 4D3:
Hi,

Personally, i think that the people who contributed should have to sign into a "special" area on your forum, i.e. they sign in, then when they click on the beta forum they need to enter another user and pass, then YOU control who has access.

I cannot believe that because on one idiot, this has happened, it is so annoying, we have all been waiting so long for this and one {deleted expletive} ruins it for everyone.

I swear if i knew where/who he was id love to wring his neck

please continue PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!

you do have supporters here!
[General Topics] schaps:
I know exactly who leaked it, he shared his personal registration key and email address with the whole world!
[General Topics] cyron_at:
...keep your head up schaps, it makes your great work going around the world and makes you also known!
[General Topics] schaps:
Now that TouchXperience has been partially unveiled to everyone I will communicate more about the project, but I don't think I will continue to come here, that's a waste of time and a disappointment for me...

If you want to follow the progress of my work then you will get new information on my website, Facebook page or Twitter feed. Everyday I will try to publish info and screenshots of a new panel.

If there is still anyone who is willing to contribute and be beta tester, better contact me directly instead of posting your username here, so I will not miss you.
[General Topics] 4D3:
Man!!!

you only just came back!!! dont go again because of 1 fool!

MG
[General Topics] iridium21:
Can I ask a question as the above post has confused me... If you have no intentions of charging for TouchXperience, why does it have a "personal registration key"?
[General Topics] schaps:
Simply because I wanted to avoid the current situation! And for other technical reasons.
[General Topics] defters24:
MG..another 1 in the making
[General Topics] EclipseX:
because, Only beta testers have acess limit for the touxhXperience....That for app is only for donnators.....
[General Topics] iridium21:
OK. Thanks for the reply.
[General Topics] iridium21:
I beg your pardon?
[General Topics] defters24:
thats a foolish question and i believe you are not confused..a great developer is about to leave this forum and you threw that kind of question? your questioning the integrity and reputation of the man who is working very very hard for the benefit of many..

if i gave you personal registration key doest it automates your pocket to shell out cash or does it forces you to donate cash???:D donation is purely voluntary in nature and it comes from the heart and the honest and pure thinking mind.

hope you get me.
[General Topics] 4D3:
nevermind, i got it!!

lol
[General Topics] defters24:
lols too..tsk tsk!
[General Topics] [★]:
So the truth IS out there, please take heed of what MG is saying, I cant really talk as I have only been here a few months, but it does seem to be gettings worse and worse, something must be done..
[General Topics] iridium21:
I asked nothing about donations and whether they were voluntary, I asked why TouchXperience has a personal registration key.

Do try and keep up at the back there...
[General Topics] defters24:
please review your post... what is this for

"If you have no intentions of charging for TouchXperience", why does it have a "personal registration key"
[General Topics] iridium21:
WOW! Are there really over 4000 donation based beta testers!!?? At $2.49 a go that's nearly $10,000!!! :eek:

Not bad if that's so... ;)
[General Topics] liable:
no i did the 2.49 the 4000 dl came from the other sites but im sure theres more than that from his site he has 12000 people on his site so hes doing good on donations
[General Topics] liable:
touchexperince web site

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[General Topics] 4D3:
I TOTALLY agree with you, please read this, i posted it earlier:

I REITERATE:

MODS DO NOTHING

as demonstrated by this farce!!!

MG

EDIT:

AGAIN I thank you for re-hammering home the point i am making!!

any blind idiot can see that this user should be permanently banned, yet they are still here!!

I wonder, whats the cause?

MG
[General Topics] DaveShaw:
All right guys, enough is enough.

@liable, you've expressed your opinion and schaps has responded, I don't know what you hope to gain by continuing this crusade. I ask that, if you have any further queries regarding the enforcement of forum rules that you contact one of the moderators or admins in private. This crusade against schaps is in breach of the rules.

@All, Let's try and keep this thread on topic. Any other flaming or trolling will be removed.

@schaps,

I'm sorry to see you feel this way because of the actions of one person. Please consider coming back when this is out in the public.

I'll be going back through this thread, clearing out the pointless posts.

Dave
[General Topics] Fireslave:
This is really stupid, I'm agree. maybe you(the rude people) don't have a better thing to do!!:mad: I'm a BETATESTER and this app is just AMAZING but it has bugs to solve, that's the reason isn't public yet. keep walking Schap, you are doing EXELENT, and please skip this kind of post!!;)
[General Topics] bigman1:
This post was not about Schap. It was about the guy that posted the links to the alpha/beta.
[General Topics] inertone:
what resolutions are going to be supported?
[General Topics] 4D3:
exactly!!

take care

MG
[General Topics] NI-knight:
I guess only 640x480 and 800x480.
[General Topics] penglish:
Can I use this on qvga?

So this means this is no good on my HTC Titan (XV6800)? It is a qvga device.

I have already donated (and don't grudge it--I've benefitted already from Advanced Config); if it can be used on my device, please do send me download instructions, schaps. My transaction ID: 6VT28230387252004.

(I already emailed you several weeks ago on the TouchXperience website, where my username is the same: penglish86)

Thanks!
[General Topics] Chris1974:
I was wondering... We all know SPB mobile shell... Looking at the youtube clips of TouchXperience I don't really see a major difference between SPB mobile shell and TouchXperience.

Allthough I do really like the animated backgrounds in TX, but thats about the only advantage I can see at this point.

No disrespect intended towards Schaps work by the way...
[General Topics] glewis101:
EXACTLY !

I have been on this forum for some time now, i do help people out (maybe not as much as i should) and i do contribute.

Some people in here are very very talented in creating these new UIs, and the work is very much appreciated (schap). I can only guess as to the number of hours this has taken to develop.

I think there are a few who give others a bad name... and i hope this development will continue here.

This is a great place and forum.. lets keep it that way
[General Topics] NRGZ28:
I wouldn't be so sure that people that download warez never give a cent. I for one donate, when I feel it's appropriate.

What you SHOULD have done is do closed beta testing, without making it public. But only allowing people to beta test by paying you for the "privilege" is bull****. It was bound to happen that you will piss some people off. So if you ask me, this was all your fault to begin with.

Do it right, pick people to beta test in a private manner and then you won't have these "problems". Truth of the matter is, you wanted the exposure and the attention... and now it blew up in your face....

My advice ? Do your own private beta testing on your site, THEN release a finished product and charge however much you want to charge for it.
[General Topics] Prinzessin Horst:
Brilliant work!!

Seems you combined the best out of three worlds.

Waiting for release. :)
[General Topics] Portos2008:
I have a HTC HD2 and Omnia II!
[General Topics] xraytech8704:
WOW! very nice, looking forward to try it out.

thanks
[General Topics] CyberSniper:
Woah! I'm totally impressed! Shows how little dedication phone companies have in developing the UI if a talented individual like you can accomplish this!
[General Topics] tibursio:
Some features I missed on your new demo (maybe they're included as it was the case on the demos from 2 years ago):

auto-screen-reorientation

changing the lists to icon-grids (small & big icons)

Looking forward to this, I hope you would continue working on it. Guess my prayers got answered...
[General Topics] furious black:
in-bloody-credible will this run on my htc hd ?
[General Topics] ceesheim:
hi shap it looks really nice good work , but off course I have a question :

is your UI based on manila files or is this an app ?

edit: what I mean is can this be used on a rom without sense ?
[General Topics] gaiden0000:
A very weird question to ask but it was mentioned so here we go. If i made a donation would I be able to get in on the beta testing. This seems way better than the any other thing that I've seen and I'd love to test this out on my HD2.
[General Topics] schaps:
I've just tested TouchXperience on HTC Diamond, I was surprised myself to see how it runs, even smoother and more responsive than TouchFLO 3D!

At least we can be sure TouchXperience will work without problem on all HTC devices with similar or higher specs.