yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero CDMA General] sleejay:
just try them all. personally i like aosp 1.6, so try that too.

just remember to nandroid backup *EVERY TIME*

after a nandroid backup i like to go to /sdcard/nandroid/*device id*/ and rename all of the backups with what they are. for example, my modaco 2.2 install is set up exactly perfect, so i went and erased all but that backup and named it 'MoDaCo-2.2', so if i ever want to restore it, i know to use that backup and not my 'AOSP-1.6-KERNEL'

;) just a tip
[Hero CDMA General] amot:
Great tip, I will do that right now.
[Hero CDMA General] dboogie2288:
****NOOB ALERT****

Ok, so I came from the Winmo dark side. I have one very simple question to ask. Why would I want a custom rom here? From what I've gathered it really doesnt change all that much outside of preinstalled apps. Is that it?! I mean with Winmo you were up to your arse in custom winmo 6.5 ROM when it hadnt even launched yet. From what I get here, everything is running 1.5...so whats the point?
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
There are 1.6 roms (look in my sig) and 2.0, 2.01, and 2.1 roms. The only roms that have camera working are the 1.6 roms. They don't have bluetooth though.
[Hero CDMA General] Darkshneider:
Or sometimes in some cases, the SMS issue.
[Hero CDMA General] HeroMeng:
Yeah, that is a problem with the AOSPs. I haven't had that issue. It seems to be geared towards certain people.
[Nexus One General] scuzzy19:
I use my trackball alot and is very handy, But at work cleaning my hands all the time sometimes isnt easy so im noticing slight discoloration in the trackball(notorious issue on blackberries) nothing major but its noticeable.

I already changed my work BB to an Atomic trackball and I seen that the Nexus One uses a standard BB trackball. I'm debating whether I should change the trackball in the nexus one with an Atomic Trackball.

Has anyone attempted to open up their phones? or just open it up just for the hell of it? I usually crack open my phones out of sheer boredom and curiosity at work(I fix phones for a repair center)

I know if I replace the TB with an ATB I will lose the light notification which is fine. but I cant stand dirty discolored trackballs :p Is anyone thinking about doing so? I like the silver trim and black trackball, and I think it will look great on the nexus one. Any advice tips or comments?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Mouse2007:
Hi all

Please help me with small problem...

I buying yesterday very good machine HTC Diamond with this default DIAM100 HTC__001 06/19/08 ROM1.37.401.3 1.00.25.03 52.26a.25.09 19591 1.1.6 1.37.

I trying flash to this latest DIAM100 HTC__032 02/06/09 ROM2.03.479.2 1.09.25.23 52.51.25.26 20764 1.4.3 2.03

Run flash tool from HTC and end of this ERROR message and end....Diamon boot to normal work

Where is problem please is this number of version

HTC__001

vs.

HTC__032

On ticks under battery is this number:

S/N: HT823GN02959

P/N: 99HEJ035-00 F

I download official ROM from this link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades

EDIT:

ALL its O.K and new ROM 2.03.479.2 is flashed!!!

:););)

I using this good: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=400950:o

Many,many THX Olipro
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] daganb:
I have a hardware question, where is the sensor located that knows if the keyboard / slider is in the open or closed position?

Fixing a friends touch pro 2 that was pretty bad off, I have everything back to normal EXCEPT it is constantly stuck in Landscape and a ROM flash / hard reset / soft reset is not working.

This phone was out of warranty and my buddy basically said to fix it or he was going to throw it out in the trash. I couldn't let that happen and dumped 150$ worth of parts for a new flex cable / digitizer / lcd.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
the ui orientation id is what flips it with the keyboard, htcs g sensor (sensorsdk4) is what controllers is when doing it by accelerometer. i would recommend a hard reset and see if that fixes it. if not, its most likely hardware and you might be screwed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kierandill:
Keyboard slider is by a magnet. I believe it is in the area of the stylus hole. If you slide out the keyboard and go landscape, you can take a strongish fridge magnet and put it on the underside of the screen near the bottom center and the screen will flip back to portrait.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] daganb:
Thank you for narrowing it down! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
ah yeah i remember that. i swear old htc slidey keyboard devices didnt use magnets like that, but oh well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] daganb:
Update: I have used a magnet to get the phone to switch from landscape to portrait, however this does not work on its own. It is possible that the magnet was lost during disassembly, Any suggestions to get this phone working 100% again? Anyone know of a replacement part or any further information on how to remedy this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] boostaddict:
I have no idea what size magnet you need, but I can get you some very small strong magnets if you need.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] adp9626:
I have the exact same problem after replacing the flex cable, digitizer, and LCD. I have no clue how to fix this problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mivanci5:
Same problem...changed lcd,digitizer and flex cable.....and now phone is always in keyboard open position...... :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Uloga:
+1 Here, same problem I lost a few pieces perhaps one of them was a magnet :p

Is there a program that we can use the Accelerometer (G-Sensor) to let the screen tilt??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Uloga:
No fixx yet? Please someone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ar_156:
Put a 0.2 x 0.2 cm magnet (I used the magnets that are holding DVD laser lens) on the underside of the main board, glue it right on the middle of the silver band you can see between the stylus and the mini USB plug.

Some boards have audio plug some not, the magnet must be placed at same place.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HandsomeRob80:
Has anyone tried this yet and does it work? I have the same problem with my TP2 after replacing the flex cable, digitizer/touch screen.

Let me know.

Thanks

Rob
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cityshark_cz:
Yep I tried it just now and it WORKS!!!!

Thanks so much for this photohelp. Very handy.

Mine problem was not lost magnet, but replacable housing. I bought complet housing (all plastic parts) on eBay and it fits nicely. Problem is, the magnet in this housing was too weak. I brought the old housing from bin where I threw it away after assambly and replaced the new magnet with the old one.

WORKS LIKE A SHARM!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] wigwam12:
I have been installing the tweaks and apps to date on the phone itself.

I have d/l a couple of games - should they go onto the main phone itself or ok on the SD card.

Would appreciate a rough guide to:

-stuff that really should be installed on the phone

-stuff where it doesn't matter which

-stuff that you should probably install to the card.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alex fung:
I suppose IME and Today related stuff must sit in the phone.

I install games to the card, but I do not know if it is a good idea. I feel that running stuff from the SD Card is slower and costs more battery.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussie1234:
Hi

Is there any Topaz ROM that does not have any of these sms bugs/problems:

1. Slowing down to a crawl while writing a long sms;

2. While writing an sms having words combine because the space bar just doesnt register or the keyboard is too laggy;

3. While writing an sms having the cursor return to the start of the message or at another line during writing a message;

4. Not being able to view, or losing the view window, when writing an sms resulting in having to re-tap the view/text writing window once or twice to see what is being written.

I have said this many times HTC messaging IS ATROCIOUS and these bugs make it downright annoying and unfunctional.

Is there any chef who has cooked with the latest 2.5 ROMS (as at Feb 2010) that has somehow fixed these problems or does HTC Messaging remain a crap app?

An annoyed Aussie :mad:

PS I have applied all the HTC SMS fix, Zenee's fix but to no avail.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
it is getting better, but a perfect htc messaging is a farcry....hopeless. :(

btw the so-called hotfix is also useless.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussie1234:
Not Just Me

Thanks

At least it's not just me with these problems.

Can anyone provide us with an email address to someone of worth at HTC? I would love to let them in on these problems.

Cheers

Aussie :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
you can always google, not that will be of any help, I suspect. :rolleyes:

ppl here said anything about (1)htc messaging is not intended to accommodate large number of texts, and/or (2)htc messaging is designed for Sense 2.1, not Sense 2.5

well, somebody somewhere is doing something about it, just have to be patient. :eek::eek:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1xinfusion:
I believe you meant to say that htc messaging is designed for 2.5 not 2.1

It is also designed for snapdragon 1ghz processor. our processors cannot act as fast and therefore htc messaging is EXTRA slow
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
thanks for the correction.

however come to think of it, htc messaging on 2.1 is superb.

oh well.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] symeteor:
When I use HTC messaging to create a new sms, and when I press Ok or Send,

the message will be send out, but the screen will hung....

Any other functions are OK but I can't use htc messaging anymore...still the same screen...

anybody can help?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shumilica:
Yeah, just disable the program, search 'zenyee disable' or 'disable htc messaging'.

Only one bug in recent ROMs that uses manila 2.5.1922 or 2.5.2010: the unread bubble doesn't dissapear after reading the message. If you don't mind not seeing the bubble at all (you have the notification icon in top-bar) this can be resolved by removing the 'sms patch.exe' from windows/start up/ directory (after installing the cab from the thread i pointed you at).

Oh and did I tell you that when used on manila 2.5.2010 the patch reverts to manila 2.1 sms messaging style?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TurtleTech:
I hope this thread becomes well known in the community for the solution to this catastrophic issue. I experience all the above mentioned problems and more, htc sense 2.5 msging is just unusable.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
somebody just posted and claimed that he/she just ended the calamity surrounding htc messaging by installing the IME (touch input method or something).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goofy3:
I've got the same... I tried Leo IV, Prime I, new roms from NhatHoa, bysio and still big problems with sms... Now on NhatHoa I can't send sms, its still in outbox, SR doesn't help. New manila is faster than previous but msg app is just terrible. I'm going back to TESS III and Im waiting for fix for msg app

cheers
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
it's got nothng to do with the ROM, like I said. It's just the HTC Messaging on Sense 2.5 is kinda pushing it on a Topaz. You can always install Zenyee's cab to disable htc messaging, and then there's this UI to mimic a more decent cosmetic by Astronout. :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goofy3:
Yes, I know that, I meen that new roms which are based on manila 2011 got this crappy htc messaging, so that's not working for me... Or maybe I just got something wrong ;) Meanwhile when TESS Leo III is downloading, I try this cab, thanks :)

EDIT: now is working like a charm, even manila seems to be faster :D Thanks again :) So I hold on for now with reflashing :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mastawindu:
Here are the links for the two treads that were mentioned above :

- [Tweak/App] Disabling HTC Messaging in manila 2.5 (version 1.2 Updated on 29th Sep)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=556614

- [SKIN SMS][06 Feb 10 UPDATE!]Beautify your standard WM SMS Thread! [All Res][WM6.1+]

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5439290

Enjoy !

EDIT: The nightmare is over !!!

With NhatHoa's last rom ( Rom_WWE/ITA/FRE/ESN_NhatHoa_08/02/2010_Build 21891/23529_M2.5.20113030_Drivers 2.53 ), Zenyee's cab restores the good old version of HTC messaging ! (the one from manila 2.1)

So no more sms bug and there is even no need to apply the skin from Astronout.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michiel0211:
So I was like.. WAIT WHAT?!

Confirmed? For real? The 2.1 under 2.5?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] symeteor:
hi all, when you cook a rom, just include IME_Tutorial_1_0_19222525_0 and a touch input(such as IME_CHS_2_1_19203826_00), then HTC messaging will be OK and works fine.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
messaging agony is over?

The good ole version of htc messaging is actually WM Messaging ?

For real.

Glad the cab can be applied on recently released ROMs.

Any chef (ljankok, patensas, Dutty, Nhathoa, etc) can confirm to this, please?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bokechukwu1:
I personally can confirm this using Tess prime I and if you disable HTC messaging then you'll get the old messaging from 2.1 but with a little side effects such as the notification bubble in messaging tab will not disappear sometimes it won't rarely it will also time stamps might be off as well but it does work and fast at that
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michiel0211:
Which of Zenyee's cabs are you using? Which version?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orouborus:
so true. cant use my td2 now because of the horrific messaging bug. im using tess iv or iii i think. rom rocks, messaging sucks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I used Zenyee's 1.2 cab with 23529 and 2.53 drivers but got the regular WM messaging and not HTC 2.1???
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mastawindu:
HI, are you sure you really did the 4 steps mentioned on Zenzee's thread including the registry editing ?

Maybe this (the back to 2.1 effect) works only on Nhathoa's rom.

After 15 hours of use I can report a quite annoying bug :

The notification led keeps flashing when you receive an sms and even after you delete the new SMS. Also, the green blue never disappears.

--> what I did (as I'm not a programmer) is too stick some black tape on the led so I can't see it flashing. The result is a fast, reactive and reliable messaging system as I always dreamed of (the one from manila 2.1)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patensas:
:D That's an awesome fix, i like your style
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ljankok:
This would then mean that this problem would not occur in official roms because there the package and its requirement oobe is installed.... I haven't read this anywhere that the problem is not present in the original Leo... I have a Leo but not a lot of sms messages to test it with..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I'm using nhathoa as well and actually I was half wrong.

It uses HTC 2.1 when you tap on the message and then you get the conversation between you and that contact, but if I click on All Messages softkey I get the regular non-threaded WM SMS Inbox and I can't get it threaded or preferably view all conversations in HTC Messaging 2.1.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] symeteor:
As I mentioned in my post, when you cook a rom, just inclued

IME_Tutorial_1_0_19222525_00

and one touch Input method, the HTC messaging will be OK and work fine.

For example, if you're cooking a english rom, you can use

IME_Tutorial_1_0_19222525_00

IME_EzInput_Western_2_1_19223329_00

And if you're cooking a chinese rom, you can use

IME_Tutorial_1_0_19222525_00

IME_CHS_2_1_19203826_00
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1xinfusion:
Someone should sticky this or at least bring it to better attention as it is a reoccuring theme in many roms. any hope of a cab or something for those who don't cook roms?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
Use v1.2, as v1.1 no longer work since certain OS/build version, quite some time ago.

Sorry, Jan, but on your v3.0 it causes 'unexpected error bla bla bla....smspatch.exe or one of its dependencies bla bla...' but it does work, only this error message pops up once on a start up. :confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
well, very good logic, as I can also confirm that htc messaging is as lousy at an official ROM :rolleyes: (well, after restoring SMSes from PIM Backup, of course). hmm, now you got me confused. :eek:

the question remains the same : htc messaging 2.1 on Sense 2.5 without Zenyee's cab, please? (please exclude the exra-slowliness, of course). :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussie1234:
Back to 2.1

Hi

I have reverted back to TESS Pride IV which uses Sense 2.1. Most of my communication is sms and phone and this ROM doesnt have the sms problems inherent in Sense 2.5's or in the later Roms.

Such a damn shame as TouchFlo has potential but all one has to do is to see the new Xperia 10 in action to see innovation in interface and functionality (only my observation from seeing it used on internet).

In actual fact the TouchFlo is a little bland with the greys and blacks and the fonts are not easy to read.

Getting back to HTC Messaging its obvious many end users experience problems with it with no fix (or better yet - a replacement) in sight.

Does anyone know who we can contact at HTC (no customer service people please - better yet executives) to get this message across otherwise we'll still be complaining when TouchFlo 4 is released!!

Cheers

Aussie :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1xinfusion:
where do i find

IME_Tutorial_1_0_19222525_00?

does it have to be cooked in?

how do i know if a rom has it cooked in?

can you provide a cab?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] symeteor:
You can get it from D2 offical rom...

Here you are, enjoy
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patensas:
Will give this a try, seems like a long shot but doesn't hurt to try :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
logically it won't work, who says official ROM doesn't produce bug onits HTC Messaging? well, like you said, it's a long shot, but hey, who knows? :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patensas:
Actually i can confirm it doesn't change a thing, at least not for me that is ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
glad to know. :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bokechukwu1:
his last cab he created the 1.2 version
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TurtleTech:
Windows msg isn't the perfect solution. I remember on previous roms on the original tilt, dutty used a third party free txt alternative and it worked beautifully. Isn't there something out there. I think what needs to be acknowledged is txt msg is simple functionality, the simpler the better in this case.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hellocourage:
I have used Zenyee's 1.2 cab, and it works beautifully.

However, i notice there are two problems :

a) When I click on the SMS message under Sense 2.5, it does not go straight to the windows messaging. The display turn white and return back to Sense 2.5 SMS message

b) When there is a new incoming SMS message, the bubble on SMS tab does not show there is a new SMS.

Anyone has the same problem ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
WM Messaging is not a final solution. It's far from working beautifully....:rolleyes: And yes, prob no 1 and 2 are widely known.

EDIT: Also found out that on a ROM that is 23529/2.5.2011.3626/2.53, restoring SMSes via PIM Backup went well and waited minutes for the messages to (re)threaded by HTC Messaging nicely; afterward applying Zenyee's v1.2 by zenkinz, now the messages got (re)threaded again by WM Messaging, but some messages were not (re)threaded properly, which is evident in "All Messages" list, they were shown as single SMSes. Why?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TurtleTech:
Some msg not threading properly!, same issue here. This whole thing is a disaster! Someone please help fix it!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 100thMonkey:
Use NhatHoa's ROM with SEnse 2.1
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
though I'm not a sucker for eyecandies, 2.1 is stable but fugly, sorry can't help it. :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 100thMonkey:
hey, kinda like me, maybe that's why I like it so much :-)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussie1234:
Use This ROM

Hi

I agree. NhatHoa's latest ROM with Sense 2.1 has a much more functional and stable HTC Messaging.

A good choice!

Cheers

Aussie :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
will try it if after a week 6.5 and its variants/derivatives are hopeless in sense of messaging (pun intended).

....of all of the fugliness, I really can't stand the rollodex contacts/fav peeps. arggh. :eek:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psion_2:
Perhaps a workaround

Hello everybody.

I had exactly the same problems as described in this thread with my new ROM and integrated latest version of sense.

Yesterday I played around with the preview of Android for Topaz. Therefore I had to disable the PIN-Code on my SIM before booting Android.

When I went back to Win-Mobile, I realized, that the speed of messaging was increased a lot.

No more stupid effects like ignoring spaces, jumping to the start of the message ...

Either the disabled PIN is responsable for that or booting into linux did sth. with the Windows System.

Perhaps someone can confirm my experience.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
Linux rules! :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TurtleTech:
http://htcpedia.com/sms_hotfix_for_all_leo_hd_roms/soft/other/download.html

Would this patch help resolution of the issue?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumAround:
Been awhile, this so called hotfix, and confirmed doesn't work. :confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TurtleTech:
I confirm as well. Hot fix listed above doesn't work. It will not compete installation.

With this noted, there must be something else we can do. Reverting back to windows mobile is duct tape and chewing gum.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hellocourage:
Think anyone who can solve this HTC messaging will be a savior. If everyone can donate at least $1 to this guy, this guy will be rich. hehe..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Yes, the person will be a hero to millions. I don't understand why HTC doesn't get that text messaging is the most important functionality after phone calls in a smartphone and fix their awful HTC Messaging!