yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] ephestione:
Admitting it's some kind of hardware unadequateness, they are very unlikely to admit anything... regarding the "everyday navigation", I did find it "good enough", but I still have to test it inside the city, mind it, as all I've used it for, until now, is follow the short road to the workplace.

As I said, my experience is, "fairly good while moving, hell ensues as soon as I stop or I start moving again after having been still"

I was following that thread too, I remember you having problems with the car being stopped at a traffic light; which is somewhat similar to what happened to me (check screenshots at the end of the post, I invite you to do the same and post results, you can use tomtom and nonigpsplot at the same time no prob, just save the nonigpsplot track and take screenshots of the traffic light places, to see if it's the same)

As far as I understand, you get several "snapshots" of the gps position while standing still, and then make a "weighted average" of the final position; that is probably a different field of application, and 20-30 meter accuracy is compatible with the erratic behaviour wideness. I would love to plot a little with nonigpsplot using the exeternal gps receiver I got here, just to compare... but we're under heavy snow now and it's quite impossible without getting seriously sick (ambulance sound in the background, see, told ya :P)

Just to feed you more shots, this is from a plot I traced couple days ago, during a 17km path both ways. These are three examples of what nonigpsplot tracked during traffic light stops:

EDIT:

Please note that I just re-loaded this track inside nonigpsplot to take screenshots, do not tell me "hey you have no gps signal there it's normal to have reception problems!" (I'm inside my house now...), the track was recorded on the street while driving, I had a good signal while traveling
[HD2 General] terrytpot:
I'm surprised that after reading this thread no one has mentioned the US DOD who provide the GPS data we all use from their satellites...they added a built in "wobble" factor (commonly refered to as an error factor) that can flutuate to a greater or lesser degree depending upon what value they set it at , therin altering your position upto 20m or more depending on the stregth of your received signal.Obviously that sort of accuracy is no good for dropping a daisycutter down your favourite terrorists chimney stack but for the rest of us who just want to know where we are its generally upto the task asked of it..(I'm guessing the dudes who take me up in the sky when I go on holiday spent a bit more on the software they use so its capable of "ironing out" the inconsistencies of the provdided GPS almanac from the rust buckets floating out in space)....Roll on Galileo I say..:D
[HD2 General] ephestione:
Yes of course, I know as a fact that the GPS system is purposedly set so to give back a position which is precise only up to X meters for civilian use... but does that imply that I need to have that vibrating position while standing still? This is a real question, no provocation intended!

As far as I know, GPS has a very high uncertainty about specific position, but can give a very high precision on movement speed, so if I am not moving anywhere, it should faultlessly say that I am standing still, instead of telling me that I am going around in circles before I actually stop :D
[HD2 General] elyl:
Bill Clinton removed the accuracy limitation on GPS in 2000. The only limit on accuracy now is the quality of the hardware receiving the signal (and any additional accuracy improving info like DGPS)
[HD2 General] forest.ranger:
Tried nonigpsplot on my Trimble Nomad which is a commercial grade GPS and also on a Bluetooth Globalsat BT 338.

They both show the same behavior.

I would concur that the 20-30 meter accuracy is compatible with the erratic behaviour wideness.

It is possible that nonigpsplot is overly sensitive
[HD2 General] ephestione:
Thank you, thank you, thank you for the feedback about this. I was going to test it with my previous BT receiver anyway, but having another, "professional grade" gps user confirming this behaviour comforts me.

orly? This comes as completely total news to me. I am talking without checking wikipedia or anything, but I remember that military grade receiver, without the "old limitation", could reach a few centimeters precision, and this I remember for having read it on a PC magazine issue quite some years ago.
[HD2 General] dkdontforget:
dont know if this helps. but my tp2 INSIDE under a roof with 3-4 sats isnt even close to that. i get a small little square as a graph no more tha a few meters

BUT i also read on engadget yesterday that the sun is having more flares and is supposed to be messing up GPS signals because of the radiation
[HD2 General] harddisk_wp:
In essence, military chips work better because of better amps and antennae. Also, each sat sends two signals: encrypted and unencrypted. the encrypted, military one uses the double data rate of the normal one; so a military GPS reciever has 3 times the amount of data to analyze as a civilian one.
[HD2 General] harddisk_wp:
I also have these jitter problems, btw - but only when i am standing still. i swear, i didnt move the car or the hd2, but it did think it moved in a radius of 20m around the current positionl.
[HD2 General] ephestione:
Putting the sun apart from the time being, since this would affect every receiver no matter of its kind... what do you exactly mean regarding your TP2?

You wanted to say that even under very bad reception circumstances, you still get better tracking than our HD2?

In that case, could you please provide more details, like the software you used (nonigpsplot as well?),and the kind of testing? (staying still, or moving and standing still at intervals?)

Also, to provide a most standard test-base possible, could you please test the behaviour of your TP2 with nonigpsplot outside, moving at fast pace back and forward, and alternating with standing pauses?

If that's too much excercise I'm asking of you, never mind ;)

Does this happen when you're standing still without doing anything, or is it more evident if you are moving, and stop all of a sudden?

In my case, the GPS tacking goes crazy for several seconds after stopping, until it slowly crawls back to the real standing position and remains almost still.
[HD2 General] terrytpot:
Thanks for the heads up about Bill switching off SA elyl,for someone who thought he knew quite a bit about sat nav :o it appears I'm well off the pace in this respect as I didn't know as much as I thought I did...just spent a fascinating (for me at least) half hour or so trying to digest what wiki say about sat errors and thier causes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

whats more if you've got the time to spare (try not to get too wrapped up in the math as it verges on gobblydygook for mortals like me:D) it does list several reasons why your plotter's leaping about and specifically why it may do it more in a stationary position :eek:

stuff like reflected signals,degraded signals (like the solar activity mentioned by dkdontforget) and not having an anticipated location through analysis of prior direction and velocity etc...

If you follow through to the links about Galileo you wil find encouraging stuff about future planned accuracy as shown below:

The Open Service (OS) will be free for anyone to access. The OS signals will be broadcast in two bands, at 1164–1214 MHz and at 1563–1591 MHz. Receivers will achieve an accuracy of <4 m horizontally and <8 m vertically if they use both OS bands. Receivers that use only a single band will still achieve <15 m horizontally and <35 m vertically, comparable to what the civilian GPS C/A service provides today. It is expected that most future mass market receivers, such as automotive navigation systems, will process both the GPS C/A and the Galileo OS signals, for maximum coverage.

:)
[HD2 General] ephestione:
Yes, I did fear going over at wikipedia to check, I know that I would've spent way too much time thereò

But at least you digging the info for the rest of us kind of gave a reason for this behaviour...
[HD2 General] bastanamnet:
For me all that stuff about non-military GPS being OK with accuracy of 30 meters is not relevant, sorry. HD2 GPS sucks. My old Samsung i780 has 1 meter accuracy in open field (seriously)!
[HD2 General] cozzykim:
I have also noticed this issue with the HD2.

Using GPS Cycle Computer on my HTC Polaris and Diamond I get a smooth kml track when walking or cycling.

Using the same app on the HD2 I get a zigzag track that jumps into nearby buildings, rivers etc.

This also happens with GPS Skinner, Navigon (when I stop at traffic lights the map jumps and rotates)

It's the same on both of my HD2s.

On the Diamond it was always recommended to turn off a-gps as it interfered with GPS location.

Is there a possibility that a-gps is interfering with the fix, and if so is there a way of turning it off?
[HD2 General] ephestione:
At least I have confirmation others have the same problems I noticed (check screens in first post).

I even tried gpsmoddriver back then but it didn't really solve anything... apparently made it worse.

I still get weird figures when walking back and forth on a straight line in my yard, it's like I have an approximation figure of 10m in all directions instead of a line repeated over and over on the same track...
[HD2 General] mc4ren:
My previous HTC Diamond had a marvelous GPS signal, and the HTC HD2 hasn't. Simple as that, I don't buy the other arguments. There is something wrong with the HD2.

Has anybody tried these settings:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=633904

I will try them... can't be any worse.
[HD2 General] cozzykim:
Let us know if it improves things
[HD2 General] mc4ren:
By now, I've only installed the GPS Intermediate Driver, and seems to pay off. Before that, when stopped I had a 10-25 meters "spider web". Now it marks quite a stable position.
[HD2 General] mc4ren:
Bad news. Yesterday I went karting and I used the great RaceChrono app. At low speeds (30 kph) I got reasonable data, but as soon as I began pushing a bit, the data went fool. Really disappointed with HD2's GPS performance.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Euroman28:
Any leaked specs for the 2.02 European Rom for this device?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] AramTouch:
Hi everyone,

I'm the (proud?) owner of a HTC Blackstone 'Touch HD', and nowadays I don't know what to think about my phone. Of course, I've done all the flashing and tweaking, but it's still not satisfying me. Although the Blackstone Android development seems very promising to me, I also have my doubts about a 'final' build in the future.

The real problem I have is slow texting, Opera opening slow and I am just dealing with an in-responsive system.

The HTC Touch HD is obviously a very slow phone, having tried different ROMs (Topix, Energy, Miri, Dutty and some more), both Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5. I fell in love for the agenda of 6.5 (the Sense edition, I have no clue if it's implanted in WM), so I don't want to ever go back to 6.1. Though, I realize that, if I want a faster phone, I should probably go back and downgrade my phone. What I am looking for is a ROM which satisfy me with speed and agility (no restarts all the time, because memory is slipping), and can provide me my valuable agenda in a pleasant way.

I would like if some of you could give me some valuable advise. Because I'm about to throw my phone in the trashcan.

Before you are confronting me with some of the greatest ROMs; I'm not 'really' in love with Sense UI, and if turning it off and using the standard WM 6.5 menu, speeds up my phone, I will do it. But is the build-in agenda satisfying enough for my needs?

In the far future I probably will buy an iPhone 3GS (4G?), just for the fact that is a phone which doens't crash and goes slow all the time. I will be throwing a little tweaker inside of me away, sadly.

Regards,

Aram (the Netherlands)

Currently using: Miri WM 6.5 | 18.0 WWE with Manila version 2.5.19222911.0 and Radio version 1.17.25.09 (should I update this?). Using an Exchange-server for my e-mail and agenda (Google Mail)!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] alexpetrucci:
Did you try searchig for a Calendar-Agenda Application to install before Upgrading or downgrading your phone's core software? Custom Rom don't bring anything new that Blackstone could do already as it came out of the box, imho. Then again other people do like to customize it a lot. if you do want to bin your phone, send it my way, I'll give it a home. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] AramTouch:
What I really liked about the WM6.5 roms was and still is the fact that in a single click I can look up my appointments and notes.

You are quite right about the 'why would you flash'-thing. Sometimes I've the feeling that I really downgraded my phone, instead of giving it the boost I intended to.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Again this is an opinionated query which is frowned upon in XDA as people will have different views on which is best creating endless long threads with no real result. For these reasons I am closng this thread
[Hero CDMA General] tmwoodall:
Is there an .apk or app I can install to use the rocker switch to control forward/back/skip functions while in media mode? Most phones I have had of recent gave me this ability (several Blackberries and Iphones), would be super useful to gain that back.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mister_chance:
One week ago I got my new HTC HD2 mobile. What a great thing. I got this mobile phone from my german provider Vodafone. When I try to create my one ring from my favorite mp3 song I searched the program MP3trimmer. But I can't find the programm. REading a lot of article I found out, that some of the mobiles where delivered without this nice program. Did anyone have an idea where I can get this program for my brand new HD2.

Many thanks in advance

Heiko from Germany
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kyrunter3:
Hello there :) ..im using the one from blackstone and it works just fine ;)

here u r :
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mister_chance:
Thanks a lot for the file.

I installed it and tried to run the program. But after starting the program I found myself on the desktop again. No chance to open the program. But maybe someone else had an idea where I can get an executable version of the mp3trimmer.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kyrunter3:
give this one a try too..it is a modified version of diamond's mp3 trimmer for VGA. (can only be installed in phone memory)

:)

...hope it suits you..:rolleyes::D
[Nexus One General] matthewboii:
AND IT LIVES!

hah i was surprised at myself for how non hesitant i was to reach in and grab that sucker soooo fast

lucky for me it was in a clean toilet in my home

anyways

void sticker didnt even get touched

immediately ripped out the battery

let it sit in paper towels for a bit

and then put it in a warm place near a heater just not very close

two hours later i dared to turn it on and im totally safe ^_^

its been a few days now with no problems at all!
[Nexus One General] melterx12:
you should put it in a bowl of dry rice just in case
[Nexus One General] m00moo:
does it feel nice to the face? haha glad it survived. Sure way to know if you have the peeling screen issue. Seems like yours is sealed 100000% :D no dust for you!
[Nexus One General] MadFlava:
You shouldnt be using the porn app in the bathroom, dude.
[Nexus One General] matthewboii:
lol im gay so no good porn apps for me :p

and yeah i feel very lucky that the water basically didnt even get inside!
[Nexus One General] JonInAtl:
LOL So am I and you're right about the lack of good pr0n apps :p

Glad the phone survived!
[Nexus One General] ScaredyCat:
I bet you're feeling flush..

... I'll get me coat..
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Holy Crap :eek: your one very lucky person! :D
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
I think you two may be the first people I've seen mention their sexual orientation on XDA, lol...
[Nexus One General] MadFlava:
I dropped my Treo 600 in a freakin lake about 2 months after getting it. I dove in and got it, threw it in the boat and it was dead, dead, dead. Took it home and it sat on the counter the remainder of my vacation. At first you could see the unit exhibiting small signs of life and eventually it came back and worked 100%. Sometimes miracles happen :)
[Nexus One General] malzfreund:
lol funny thread

[x] would read again
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
Wow, I'm surprised your Nexus One still works dude.. guess HTC's testing process did do some good. Or, you just got extremely lucky somehow.

On an off-topic side note, did anyone notice in the video where the Nexus One fell, the screen did not crack? I assume this was an almost final version of the product? Why though, does when people drop their phones on the concrete it still breaks? If HTC went through this rigorous testing process, why are phones breaking so easily?.. Of course glass breaks easily, but did the material they dropped the phone on was not as dense or hard enough as concrete? Or was it simply the multiple angles they tried..
[Nexus One General] Futomaki:
is there really?never heard of it before.what is it called?
[Nexus One General] metamorph8:
In the video it looks like the phones are dropped from what appears to be rather less than hand-holding height, onto a surface that appears to be slightly rubbery. Concrete tends to be rather unforgiving no matter what you drop on it.
[Nexus One General] xiutian:
In December, I dropped my HTC Magic into a kid's swimming pool, left it to dry for one day and it's still in great working condition today =)
[Nexus One General] firehawkws7:
Did this exact same thing to my old Nokia 8190 back in the day, and the bowl wasn't "fresh". Phone came out fine other than the battery life dropped to 6-8 hours of standby, ended up carrying a spare in my wallet.
[Nexus One General] pzumk:
Oh lol, nice reaction tho..

Lmao! This is offtopic.

Please create your own thread for this.
[Nexus One General] gtrplr71:
Mikandi.com porn app store
[Nexus One General] Dayzee:
OOOOhh Myyyyy Goooosshhhh I would have totally gone hysterical.

I had a google Ion that I paid toooo furkin much for and dropped the bloody thing on the pavement and scuffed it - I nearly had to have counselling I was so gutted.

Its excellent to know it wasn't killed, was the screen off when it went in?

I have porn on my nexus, but only the stuff I wrote myself ;) (see sig)

Dayz
[Nexus One General] melterx12:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/linus-torvalds-is-now-a-happy-nexus-one-owner-pinch-to-zoom-put/
[Nexus One General] redmongoose:
Here is the details from his blog...

http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2010/02/happy-camper.html

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2010

Happy camper

I broke down and bought a Nexus One last week.

I got the original G1 phone from google when it came out, and I hardly ever used it. Why? I generally hate phones - they are irritating and disturb you as you work or read or whatever - and a cellphone to me is just an opportunity to be irritated wherever you are. Which is not a good thing.

At the same time I love the concept of having a phone that runs Linux, and I've had a number of them over the years (in addition to the G1, I had one of the early China-only Motorola Linux phones) etc. But my hatred of phones ends up resulting in me not really ever using them. The G1, for example, ended up being mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights, since I had almost no reason to carry it with me except when traveling.

But I have to admit, the Nexus One is a winner. I wasn't enthusiastic about buying a phone on the internet sight unseen, but the day it was reported that it finally had the pinch-to-zoom thing enabled, I decided to take the plunge. I've wanted to have a GPS unit for my car anyway, and I thought that google navigation might finally make a phone useful.

And it does. What a difference! I no longer feel like I'm dragging a phone with me "just in case" I would need to get in touch with somebody - now I'm having a useful (and admittedly pretty good-looking) gadget instead. The fact that you can use it as a phone too is kind of secondary.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneG:
I checked. No threads here or in Q&A on this one. Nobodies talking about this, surprisingly. With a touch screen this is probably irrelavant for anyone to notice. Most likely a non issue for most but I enjoy the extra navigation option and was compelled to inquire.

Is there a mod for this? If not, is it feasible to calibrate/configure the trackball's sensitivity?

Browsing cursor is too sensitive in content heavy pages, yet the text cursor isnt sensitive enough.

Thanx in advance

[Steps out into the freezing rain and puts on flame-retardent jump suit]
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garok89:
1. wrong section

2. unlikely
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
Someone thinks we're going to flame. Not this time, let's show him the love
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garok89:
lets not...im in a good mood today
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garok89:
seriously though...zoom in further or just dont view these sites on your g1
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] domenukk:
I second it.

I've had samsung sgh i550 (100% trackball based) and got to like it. adore it even.

Now i barely use it anymore because... well... the speed sucks. :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stylez:
Moved as not Android development.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneG:
[Takes off jumpsuit]

Wheww. That was hot.

So you say, but there's a 3d chess game that allows you to change the trackballs sensitivity. There are other examples of this in other apps...I just can't name them off the top of my head right now. Feel free to chime in if you know of any
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kidblue:
I am LOVING my Cyanogen ROM and thanks to y'all it was a slice of pie (piece of cake, too) getting it on the MyTouch and starting to rock and/or roll.

At this point, I'm a little confused regarding moving existing apps to the SD card - I'm on a Mac (OS X) and can't quite figure out what to partition the darn thing to or how to do it.

In addition - I already have a handful of apps on the SD card (unpartitioned) in addition to some audio and app-created folders.

Is there an easy way (via OS X) to partition and move everything as it is so I can automatically have my apps on the SD and have new ones install there as well?

Thanks,

Noah
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] KAwAtA:
Try this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512743
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grifforama:
I just did a nandroid backup, and the timestamp in astro says

BCDMRS-20100208-1856

But I did the backup way earlier than 6-56pm

Is there some system clock that needs adjusting ?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] troyboytn:
sorry wrong post
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tatonka_hero:
I feel like it might be GMT that the phone records.

Why not rename them for ease of use? Rather than trying to figure out what those timestamps mean.

Also, if you mount the card in windows, and look at "date modified", it'll show you the time based on your computer's time I believe.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] posguy99:
<sigh> No, the timestamps in the filename are GMT. Since the local timezone on the phone can change, wouldn't it be better if the files were always marked with the *same* timezone?
[Touch GSM General] LEPIALLOU:
Hi,

Three days ago I updated my Elfin for Windows 6.5 (with a ROM cooked for Elfin) and since I have an awkward problem that I couldn't resolve after reading many posts...

I can connect on WIFI without any problems but then only IE can access to the web... Whatever over programm say me that the connection doesn't exist.

Does anyone know how to solve this ???

Or have some tip....

Thank you very much
[Touch GSM General] tito12:
I suggest you ask this question in your cooked rom's thread.