yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
Downloading.. will put edits in this post..

edit:

first notice: looks good and stable.

Weather animation on hometab is still very very laggy ( and it is possible to get this run smoothly ;) if you dont believe me you should try a very old rom from dutty called: Dutty's Holy Grail R0. i used this rom before i got to your rom.. the weather animation on his rom runs flawless)

http://htcpedia.com/duttys_hd_leo_holy_grail_r_2e6a2262b14ec78cb/soft/htc-blackstone-rom.html <-- can download here

HTC messaging goes smooth, but is still a bit laggy. ( my god i hate HTC messaging :D )

HTC keyboard is still very slow WHEN USING T9. if you disable it. HTC keyboard gets a lot quicker --> but still not quick enough ( fingerkeyboard ftw :D)

First time scrolling down contacts-tab is laggy.. but when you do it again (up/down) it goes smooth.

bouncingbug is fixed in manilla.. but now we have the bug in file explorer :S

touchresponse in manilla is faster/ but somehow i get the feeling that scrolling from hometab is slower again. edit: When you disable weather animation on hometab. the scrolling from hometab is fast again.

Twitter: The "refresh" -bug is fixed. But the scrolling is laggy again (when you scroll down/up fast) (which was smooth in v4.8)

Facebook seems slightly faster, but you cant really tell the difference.

lockscreen pops up instantly ( many kudos for miniterror ) But when you lock your touch HD and you turn your screen off.. and back on.. it still takes about 3 seconds before you can slide the bar to unlock the phone.

this is what i have so far..

edit 2: first bug found:

hometab --> telefoon --> meer --> The letter "A" pops up --> buttons at the bottom of the screen don't respond when they are touched ( "Telefoon" and "menu" )

when you push "telefoon" on hometab, the scrolling through your contacts is remarkebly slower than in v4.8

takes a while before screen pops up when you hit the windows logo ( v4.8 had the same problem, didnt have it in 4.7 though. )

edit: just disabled weather animation in registry. this fixes everything..

when watching pictures in fullscreen and have your phone in landscape mode, the scrolling is laggy ( not when you have it in portrait )

faster: touchresponse. lockscreen pop up. scrolling in startmenu.

conclusion: this rom is slow, slower than 4.8. But when you disable the weather animation in registry settings, something magical happens.. the rom gets quicker instantly!

Mini,

I know you hate critisism. but you can better have a good critisy-guy than some one who loves everything.

We are trying to make this the best rom evahhhh, so we have to be strict :D

edit 3:

Im gonna flash dutty's HG R0 to see if my memory isnt fooling me.. i thought weather animation on that rom ran smoothly..

so im gonna flash to see if it really does..

Just flashed it: weather animation goes very smooth on his rom! You should definitly take a look at his rom mini..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
thanks for the feedback so far:d if you find other things just edit them in that post;)

as for the feel it seems the graphic drivers are bugging cause disabling weather makes everything faast again. for youre feel without weather better or worse then v4.8?

gonna revert back to the older screendrivers before i started messing with it today:p

as for the bug in phone>meer>and it selects a i dont have it but im on a different version then you have:p

also found some text missing in agps settings:-o

think i will make time to play tomorow and make a new beta

have you tried kwekker btw?

edit: i can take a little criticisem but not 20 post about the same thing wich often happens here on the forum many downloads with people not saying a thing but when something is wrong you hear it 20 times

and now i am prepared:p as i knew the rom whasnt flawless:p

also could you check what pp the holy grail rom has if the weather is flawless as i use 12 pp i believe im the lowest as most use 18 or 20 and it could make a difference:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
Im still running the holy grail.. and it is fast..

I wanna check it for you but i dont know what you mean by PP ? but im gonna search thru registry.. maybe i will find it..

I can highly recommend you to flash his rom.. just play with it for an hour.. maybe it will give you more info you can use in your rom..

the holy grail rom is perfect in any way.. but it's not NLD..

So we are trying to make this rom even better than his!

if you do flash his rom

take a look at his twittertab.. the scrolling is running more smooth than in your v4.8

maybe you can just copy some of his settings to your new beta rom?

also scrolling in his manilla is running perfect. no delay what so ever.

HTC Keyboard --> hardly any delay

I think thats why he calledit his holy grail :P

Hope you flash his rom and see what im talking about here :)

edit: flashed back to your beta rom..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
i will take a look at it later this midday

with pp i mean PagePool

its something i set in the kitchen wich is kinda a strange thing

higher pp means faster rom but also more ram consumed

as i mentioned most chefs use 16,18 or 20 and i have it on 12

if you look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=323269

you can find a program to change pp on rom images;)

will check out wich pp dutty used later

edit: just checked and dutty uses 18 as pp where i use 12 could you try changing pp on my rom with the program posted in the link above and see what happens
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hispeedworm:
hey chris i tried Energy rom... plain sense 2.5 21905 version.... even though it has its share of bugs not related to sense though.... but manila 2.5 CFC version feels faster.....n here is why

Normally if i would have weather on homescreen turned off and just the mini weather animation running under the clock... that thing and clock minute flips would turn choppy if i have all the quicklinks filled up. but in this rom i had all the quicklinks filled up and tht still runs pretty slick......

I think u should try to CFC the sense 2.5 :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
pp is now 18 mb

Nothing in the weather animation changes. Still laggy. but when u flip clock so you have the 9 shortcuts.. and you have rainy weather.. the whiper comes by 100 times smoother than when you have your clock on your screen..

Although HTC Keyboard is getting a lot quicker. scrolling in twitter is getting quicker and response time in manilla is getting quicker too!

on v4.8 when i took "hi" as internetprovider it said Hi on my homescreen.. now it says 3G NL KPN.

Put pp to 16 mb. manilla is still fast enough, so is twitter.

Weather animation stays slow when clock is up, but is fast when clock is down.

phone doesnt heat up as much as it did using 18pp.

I think you should stay with 16pp.

Maybe you could play with this a little.. i would love seeying the weather animation run completly smooth

btw: i love that HTC keyboard is finally quick :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] msanioura:
Hey Chris..

glad to hear ur coming with a new ROM build.. hope the Clean versions come with :

1. rotatable HTC Calculator (HTC calculator in full versions rotated correctly but I don't about the Clean versions.. I never managed to find a solution on my Clean build 4.8).

2. the original ring tones..

thx and good luck..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
The ringtones are original again,

You now get the original 6.5 startup sound (instead of the wm6.1 startup sound)

calculator gets full when in landscape
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
Mini,

I forget to answer your question.

I think that your v4.8 is faster than v4.9 beta. ( with or without enabling/disabling weatheranimation )

I hope that when you will flash dutty's holy grail r0 this afternoon it will give you more information on how to make your rom faster :D

keep me posted

What will be different in the beta you will upload tonight?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
a fast reply as i am still in rijswijk shopping

the new beta will have the older screendrivers back wich in my opinion worked better

als the manual backlight will be fuxed and i will revert some settings wich i tried but dont seem to do much
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
OK,

I just flashed dutty's again.

I have to say. The only thing that is really faster in his rom is the weather animation. the rest is kind of the same compared to your v4.8. On some points your rom is even faster ( scrolling thru contacts for instance ).

@Hispeedworm.

You say the flipping of the clock and the flipping of the numbers faster when you filled up all shortcuts and you DISABLED weather animation.

How is the speed when you ENABLE weather animation?

does it run smoothly than? and how does the weather animation run? (try getting rainy weather on your homescreen to see the speed of the wiper coming by.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
little update again

just came home and realised i still have to vote:-o

little off topic im gonna vote geert wilders:p

as i still have to vote i think i wont play wont with roms today as i also have to go to my little brother tonight

as for the weather animation ont forget it has a different file then the normal file and maybe thats why its a little slower

the default rainback isnt transparent so you get a black screen while the wiper comes over the screen

i found a rainanimationfile wich it is transparent but it might be that that file is causing the slownes of the rain animation

edit: will make a new nld beta version with the old screen drivers i nand the settigns back to original like in v4.8

edit2: beta2 has begun his uplaod journey

reverted back to old screendrivers

removed some stuff that whasnt in containing some settings

fixed manual backlight:D

upped pagepool to 16 instead of 12 wich should give a smoother/faster feel
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
You put settings back?

does this mean we have the refresh bug in twitter and the bounce back thingy again?

or is that still fixed :P

Edit: that was a stupid question :P

So eventually beta2 will have 21905 but with old drivers and with more pp and with fixed bugs..

I think that that could get us closer to v4.9 final.

As for the weather animation.. just play with it.. maybe you can fix it ( which will make me happy ) maybe you cant ( doesnt really matter )

I still love you rom :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
the twitter thing should still be fixed;)

as for the bounce back thing should also be the same as in the first beta;)

it will have 21905 and sense 2013

as for the weather animation and sense stuff i have some tweaks for it maybe changing those tweaks speedit up a little but i will have to flash dutty his rom and check the reg from it to see whats different in my rom on those few valeus

the new beta can be found here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZXIMTRJP
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
OKay,

I will flash your new beta tonight since i dont wanna get a huge bill from Hi for data-limit.

I get home at 23:30.

I will make another bugreport, but i guess it will be smaller than my previous bugreport since you put back the old drivers.

something is wrong with megaupload.. download goes terribly slow.. 2000B/S

You should upload it again.. i tried to download your v4.8 and it downloads good..

but your beta is not :S

I will be online for around 03:00 am.

So please oh please put up a mirror!

I wanna flash it sooo bad:P
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
Since i cannot flash your second beta i flashed back to v4.8

I put the pagepool to 16mb.

runs like a charm.

Dont hate me for saying this but :p

to be honoust. I think that v4.8 is your best rom ever.

to be more honoust. I think that v4.9 should be exactly the same as v4.8 BUT with the following changed:

original start up sound, bouncing thingy, original ringtones, twitter "refresh" bug fixed. blablabla.. you know what i mean:p

Why should you always use the newest of the newest if an older one runs like a charm?

Why use new drivers if the old ones kick ass?!

Maybe it's crazy talking since it is 3:34am. ( dont worry, I work late shifts this week )

but I believe that if you would just take the v4.8 and put all the changes mentioned above in it.

I think you just might have the perfect rom :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] anand12:
:) Post deleted.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
dont get me wrong but i think you cant compare my rom with the blackstonehedge rom

i use startmenu above and he uses startmenu at the bottom

these are tottally diferent sys packages and thats why the rom acts different then one with startmenu at the top

@thom i will reuplaod it

on a side note:

@anand please dont make such messages

those are messages that annoy me and i make me doubt to stop

and if you are so pleased with it use that one;)

reuploaded beta2 voor thom is here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SE0A75VA
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
Downloading at full speed :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] anand12:
I apologise. it was never my intention to hurt anybody or to compare Ravage to any other rom. I fully intend and am hoping to see your kitchen up again and cooking great WWE ROMs. il be the first one to download and test it,Iv already said that. My sincere apologies once again.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
apologies accepted but please dont talk in my thread over other roms that the are great and full of speed and so on as i have nothing to do with the other roms

yu could point me to a rom to check it out but that could be brought in a totally different way as the post you posted about blackstonehedge(all do respect for wajk)

edit @ anand: thanks for deleting that post:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] anand12:
Post deleted. Apologies again. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
Feedback on beta2:

This beta version is more stable than beta1.

Twitter is up and running again, bounce-back is fixed, original tones are back, original start-up sound added.

finger-respons is quicker in manilla ( if you push on musictab (not scrolling, just push) in normally takes around 2 seconds before it actually shows the music within musictab, this is much quicker now)

I think we might have a v4.9 on our hands here.

Just a few notices:

It seems that scrolling in manilla sometimes is more unstable, maybe it's just my Touch HD but it seems more laggy than v4.8 ( I'm referring to flipping the clock away, and back.. sometimes at the end it's a bit laggy-ish :p )

Can you confirm this mini?

As for me:

This rom is great, no complaints what so ever, the only complaints that i do have are based on personal preferences:

- would still love the orange windows logo at start up.

- would still love to see weather animation run smooth.

This is all i have :p No more feedback :p

I'm very perfectionistic if it comes to making a rom as stock as possible

( and i know you might get frustrated from it since you are also very perfectionistic in making roms :p)

Edit:

One more thing:

Could you add the bounce-back also in file-explorer and SMS/MMS (in the "without HTC messaging) just like you had it in v4.8

I miss this in the beta2
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
i will have a look at it

did you have anny text messages being suspended til lyou turned the screen on?

edit: also i cant confirm much at the moemtn as im getting computer eyes of being behind the comp so much:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
Okay,

Did you manage to tweak the registry by looking at dutty's rom as you said before?

Hope you can add/change.fix the latest small things :D

So i guess you'll be releasing v4.9 very soon?!

edit: No problems with incoming textmessages what so ever :) ( but my god i hate HTC messaging :p )
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
well i flashed it but to be honest i didnt like the rom at all:p(never did like dutty hi roms but neverthe less he is one of the best)

also i didnt notice much speed difference:-o

i tried to look into his reg but the regeditor reacted verry strange so i didnt manage to compare the registers

i did change the valeus to different ones and it seems a little better to me but it could be me though

as for 4.9 i think tomorow i will make releases if the localization to make it english will work with me:p

for the moment being im looking at some other stuff to see if i can speed the rom up some more:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
i just gave my touch hd a soft reset and i have to say that manilla really seems to work a bit slower and unstable than in v4.8

Could this be or is that just nonsense?!

gr
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
ok, well just play around with it. if you will put another final beta up tonight i can test it. it should work all great so you can make v4.9 final. ( i want my \"without htc messaging back :p ) haha!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
making a rom now but i cant upload it as my girlfriend already is waiting to go

im waiting till the rom is finsihed and then ill take it wiht me and flash it in the car:p

i dont know whats going to happen as there is alot changed in the drivers in this rom i am going to try aslo a little extra topaz stuff in it:p

see its finished so got to go will let you know
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
Ok,

Your starting to make me curious i have to say, but i'm just gonna have to trust you :D

Hope you fixed the final changes :cool:

okay, well.. this is gonna be kinda frustrating since now i have to wait untill you upload beta3.

Or are you going to test beta3 yourself and make it final if your happy with it?!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
well dont notice much difference so i think i will make the rom wwe and upload it

in the mainrime i wull test more screendriver related stuff to see if it gives faster animation:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
Okay, before you make it final

Can you tell me what changes are made?

Maybe you forgot something? ( like the bounce back in SMS/MMS, EMAIL)

grtz

edit1: It's kinda frustrating to me that manilla runs slower than in v4.8

do you have the same problem in your latest beta or is that just in beta2?

the scrolling is just slower..

edit2: Disabled weather animation. Manilla runs like a charm :D

edit3: You might wanna look at the "3-seconds before you can slide"-bug when you get out of standby and you locked your screen ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
making the first wwe test rom now to see if everything went alright(hope so:p)

as for the three seconds lock thing its fixed

the slider moved down and the date stays above

as for the bounceing thingie its breaking my head:S

cant seem to find what is causing it not to do it:S

so many things to do that eventually you cant see the forrest threu the tree's if you know what i mean

think i am just gonna bring out the roms and see what reactions i get about the speed

sometimes it looks like its flying and sometimes it looks like its full of sh*t

could be that i have to do a task 29 though as i havent done that the last 40 testroms:p

ona side note

have you checked kweeker yet to see if its full screen

now i am still able to replace java packages for others:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
For the bouncy thing

Cant you just look at the settings u used in v4.8 since it worked like a charm there?

Why did you move the slider down and the date up? is that to fix the 3 seconds thing cause its not original like that :p

I'm such a pain in your ass i think :p

If people will complaint you might better use the older manilla version that you used in v4.8 since that one worked very fast!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
if i had the v4.8 kitchen i would be able to use those settings:p

but thats the kitchen i lost:p

as for the lockscreen it is that way cause of the fix

playing with the wwe rom now:p

think i will uplaod a wwe beta to

its made in the same kitchen as the nld so everything should be exactly the same but just to check

it also has the newer drivers in it so its kinda like the the 3th nlg beta:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
When will you be uploading NLD Clean without HTC messaging FINAL?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
uuhhmmmmm to be honest i dont know:p

im still playing with the kitchen and finalizing some bugs out of it

just spotted a few in wwe:p

edit: between waiting i made a beta3 WITHOUT HTC MESSAGING:p

link nld without htc messaging: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S7WYK3EK
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
OKay im gonna try it,

Did you manage to fix the bounce back thing again? or is it still frustrating you to the bone?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
still frustrating to the bone

also stumbled on a other thing

something in the packages to make the rom full destroyes the automatic setup of date and time:s although i can live with it:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
I really hope you can fix the bounce back.. cant you ask other chefs?

You pulled it off in v4.8 so sure its possible :)

I'm gonna try beta 3 when i get home.

what are the changes between beta2 and beta3?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
to be honest i ant even remember

its different:p

other reg settings

i believe the beta 2 didnt have the topaz drivers in but it doesnt do that much as i hoped:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
haha maybe you could ask another chef :D

Okay, i hate it so bad that i cant download it right now !!

Did you manage to fix/change/improve something since you've been playing with roms all day :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
well for my feeling the overall feel has improved

but mostly i have been busy making the rom english and fix some missing pieces of text/translated them to something better in my opinion

also made the change in startup in clean that you get the dull orange screen

dont really get whats so special about that startupscreen:p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
OMG HAHAHA,

You make me happy :D:D:D:D

Now lets fix that m*therf*cking bouncebug and release the s*cker ( im sorry im just happy your making your clean rom so freakin clean.. )
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
just flashed your beta NLD without HTC messaging.

its fast, smooth, and all bugs are out..

if you can fix the bounce-back in SMS/MMS and Hotmail.

You can release it,

Than your rom will be perfect ( besides the weather animation:p:p have to be critic )

edit: I DO see a lot of speed improvements :D twitter scrolling is really smooth :D, Scrolling thru contactstab is smooth :D

just the bounceback ( which i know you can fix)

and the weatheranimation.. but we'll get to that in another far away version i guess :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonhdoe11112:
hmmz... chris.. what about to make the beta3 download public?

I am still following this topic and flashed both beta versions... just didn't report any bugs since I installed cht 1.8 and thinks this slows down. All other bugs were mentioned before.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] thomvanloon:
Mini,

just found a MAYOR bug,

Your beta3 doesn't detect my SD-card:p