yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] meptik:
You're saying this like it is somehow an acceptable, or possibly even a good thing. It is not.

It's true that this forum is now visited by people who:

cannot be bothered to read the first post of any thread

have no intention of educating themselves, only blindly consuming

will shamelessly ***** and make demands about things they are getting for free

These people do not make the community "better" in any way, and this kind of behaviour should not be tolerated in my view.

Heated discussions in themselves do not need to escalate any further. They are already a waste of everybody's time, and have no place here.

I'm relatively sure the user who is seriously interested in testing and reporting is not in need of a completely seperate thread to voice their opinion on which ROM is somehow "best". For testers it's not constructive to voice opinions about a ROM in any other thread than the original ROM thread.

Not so sure about that. I've seen plenty of chefs say that they basically cook for themselves, and just like to share. Even if they are cooking for the community, they do not need people to praise or diss their ROM's in any other thread than their own.

Overall, I feel the biggest problem with having a centralized ROM discussion thread is the intented audience: people who cannot be bothered to test and compare by themselves, people who cannot be bothered to read individual ROM threads.

What would be the point in creating a new thread for these people? Once it gets beyond 1 page, they will not bothered to read it anyway.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antaed:
for me personally these "top 20s" don't have any value whatsoever but i understand why so many people want them. some of them are just lazy and want to avoid to read the threads, others are not able to think for themselves and need to be told what is good or bad for them and there are those who want to become famous reviewers.

for cryin' out loud, don't fix what is not broken! this forum is perfect as it is. moderators, don't let the comorades tell you what to do!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] huggy_72:
I think is better we not make comparative, believe it is better for all!!

but if you say it is impossible to compare among themselves the Rom, you're wrong!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alipi2007:
lol reopened.

anyway i belive this huld be discussed. we are here three levels of people. so this will need for 1st level, and 2nd level will be trying the roms and giving feed backs. so 3rd level always will be cooking and editing roms. just my opinion.

lets start the work.. i go for duttys HG V.08
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wilcovh:
Just a practical question. How are we going to rate the roms in an organised way then?

roms arrive with several new releases per day. this thread will become so huge in a few days that the people that are intrested in this subject cannot be bothered reading 100+ or even 1000+ posts.

I think this is practically impossible to have a thread like this, beside of the jugements of what is a good or bad rom.

the only thing that might work is that a moderator is setting up a closed (i mean here you cannot reply with posts only vote) poll with all the current chefs in.

this will give the new people a quick view of what the majority of the people like here on XDA Leo section
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Also think about it from another perspective. Many of the chef's do cook for themselves, and they consider their thread as their little boundary. If you want to post your likes or dislikes it is freely welcome to do so in the thread. But if you make a billboard type thread and start ranking them against one another they may be offended and decide to no longer share their work. And if several of them did the same thing soon you would no longer have as many ROM's for your use for free. But you would still have your thread filled with complaints, praises, heated arguments etc etc. We don't do this as business but as pleasure and as soon as you take the fun out of it then it is no longer worth sharing.

I'm not saying it's not a good idea but I don't think it is a good idea to do it here on xda. Start yourself a blog site, get people to come there and post their opinions. Then you will be happy, but don't try to do it here.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Yes but even this is flawed because if some chef is liked by many followers he may get a higher than normal rank. The same is true for those cooks who people don't like. They would be ranked unjustly on the bottom. Some of the better chefs here are not all well received.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antaed:
well said bobsbbq!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wilcovh:
Isn't it that the chefs that have a lot of people using their rom, those people are happy with their roms? The roms they make suit at least most of the needs of all those people.

In the discussion started here is to help people to make a choice on the first glimse for those that cannot be bothered to read all the posts of the different custom roms.

if this thread has become big and it will be, it defeats the purpose of helping people making a quick or easy decision. that was the original intention of the thread started by jaxouk
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] the_scotsman:
Sorry, but I really don't see how you can say "ROM X" is the best ROM...there are far too many variables. What's good for one person is not necessarily good for another person.

It's like asking which is better, Windows or MacOSX? Everyone will have different opinions.

I think these threads are started by people who are too lazy to actually read the ROM threads and try them out for themselves....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tictac0566:
"Life is like a box of chocolates..." Forrest Gump was not so wrong, was he?

When I first came here to xda devs some time ago, I quickly found out that all those threads asking "what´s the best" are not really helpful.

It takes of course some effort and time to read some threads for all the ROMs if you come here as a "newb", but then again, it usually is enough to read the first and last couple of pages.

In case of HD2, there is quite a big number of ROMs, but this, I do consider as an advantage: Lots of things to choose from.

Flashing an HD2 is, timewise, a piece of cake. It´s fast, and if you proceed with a certain care, no headaches at all. I think this way, many people (including myself) got something like a "flashaholic". After a certain time, you can easily find what you like best. And from then on, you can focus on those which offer what you like best.

In the sum, I am just thankful that there are so many skilled people offering the result of their efforts for *free* in this forum. This is how I come to the software which makes my device usable the way I like it. Many people may be happy with a stock ROM, I am not. For people who don´t have those skills, like me, this is just like being in the land of milk and honey.

Maybe some people just need to learn how to live in this land, the options are endless and all of them tempting...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wacky.banana:
I think the OP's question has been answered in a number of ways so I will now close this.

Good discussion so I will leave this thread on here for reference unless the Mod Team decide otherwise.

Many thanks

WB
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] k.reddy:
guys anybody out there who can help me out here i flashed a cdma rom on to my diamond and now only the touch diamond scren is coming i am still new to the flashing software please i beg u all help me
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] awran5:
you need to do MTTY ( to format your device ) then reflash your original ROM

here's MTTY Tutorial .. read it carefully and [Video]
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] samsingh4u:
hello friends

please help me

i want generic rom for imate pda2k

please help me by providing
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] egzthunder1:
You mean a stock rom?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] UnholyGod:
I guess that's the generic rom means

I second the request

can I have the stock rom

the WM2003 one
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Hakim Rahman:
you can go look it up in http://www.shipped-roms.com/download.php?category=windows mobile&model = Blue Angel&file = Imate_PDA2k_WWE_12200_162_10600_SHIP you'd better learn the procedures, before you do the Flash ROM !!! careful ;)​
[Liquid S100 General] AngioNicholai:
Enjoy....!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbPimMHDWJc
[Liquid S100 General] macfreaker:
Really great.

When this will be released ?
[Liquid S100 General] brumbrum:
Wow!

Is it 2.1 fully working, or is it just a very very "pimped" 1.6?

--

Edit:

Wait! You got your new Liquid already? Gratz! :-)
[Liquid S100 General] AngioNicholai:
its official
[Liquid S100 General] brumbrum:
Do radio, gps and everything else work? I

Is this the version that runs on the Liquid E?

Still hard to belive Acer would release a new phone with 2.1 that is the same as current phone and allow us that have the "old" hardware to upgrade.

I would however be happy if I am wrong. :rolleyes:
[Liquid S100 General] AngioNicholai:
its official, liquid E is the Eclair update

Edit: and everything works
[Liquid S100 General] Platinum_egoist:
And it will update Acer Liquid to Eclair?
[Liquid S100 General] [[ Cold ]]:
any word on ETA?
[Liquid S100 General] AlexIvasuc:
guys sry for off topic but : i want to buy a new phone and i decided to buy the acer liquid,i can buy it in a couple of days...should i wait for the liquid e?or is it just a software update?
[Liquid S100 General] FeRoX80:
this is the Acer Liquid E, the normale versione (acer liquid) wil be update on June...
[Liquid S100 General] AlexIvasuc:
soo it has the same specs as the acer liquid? (acer liquid=acer liquide e )
[Liquid S100 General] vsg2000:
The update will be on june for Acer Liquid???? Are you sure?
[Liquid S100 General] baley:
That doesn't make any sense...

Mind you I am not claiming that acer needs to make any sense at all :p

We can all use leaked elcair roms by then anyway :D
[Liquid S100 General] xmoo:
As far as I know. There was a 2.1 ROM update planned for the normal Liquid around March, this had been confirm by the Acer support aswell...
[Liquid S100 General] FeRoX80:
http://www.androidiani.com/dispositivi-android/acer-liquid-e-il-liquid-va-ad-android-2-1-5779

Here they asked when the normal liquid will be update, and acer says on June.

"Ultima informazione ai possesori del Liquid normale: Acer non si e’ dimenticata di voi, e ci ha confermato che un update alla 2.1 verra’ rilasciato verso Giugno!"

This is italian :)
[Liquid S100 General] vsg2000:
L'avevamo capito dal tuo messaggio precedente..... ma non si parlava di marzo????
[Liquid S100 General] FeRoX80:
hai detto bene... "si parlava"... ora invece dicono giugno... staremo a vedere...
[Liquid S100 General] swallow74:
Liquid E esce il primo aprile, quindi secondo me l'update uscirà quello stesso mese, se non prima. Staremo a vedere! ;)

(in english: Liquid e will be released the first day of april, so i believe the update will be released in the same month, if not before. We will see!)
[Liquid S100 General] [[ Cold ]]:
my guess is that we all will have eclair long before that ;)
[Liquid S100 General] elcasa:
seperemo ben !

I hope it !
[Liquid S100 General] [[ Cold ]]:
there's already unofficial roms... check the development section
[Nexus One General] jacksonj51:
Maybe I'm overlooking this but isn't there a way within the gmail client on phone to select a group to email all at once?

Seems simple like in messaging (Handcent) when you create a message it gives the option to select an individual contact or a group of contacts from your gmail account.... but I can't seem to find this feature within the phone's gmail client? There's a group of 5 people I email very often and and have them in a contact group on my google account but I hate having to enter each one by one!

Was just wondering where I'm going wrong or if anyone knows the trick?

Thanks

**Edit: Having the same problem within the google voice client on the phone as well, can't select multiple contacts to sms at the same time.....
[Nexus One Android Development] persiansown:
If you haven't noticed, Pershoot has taken over this thread a LOOONNGGG time ago. We just keep it here because it's easier than opening a new thread.

Here is a kernel for the Nexus One running at 1.113 Ghz. Its been perfectly stable for me. Enjoy.

Remember, I hold NO responsibility for anything that goes wrong. I'm simply providing the kernel, whatever happens with it is on your shoulders not mine.

Pershoot just compiled the .32 kernel that is both undervolted and OCed. Big props to him.

Instructions:

1. Root your Nexus and install the latest Cyanogen rom (5.0.2 as of 2/15/2010)

2. Download SetCPU from either XDA for free, or support the developer as I did and buy it on the market

3. Reboot into fastboot and type "fastboot flash zimage zImage"

4. Push the .ko file to /system/lib/modules

5. Once your phone boots, open SetCPU and tell it to autodetect your CPU (Don't choose Nexus from the list!)

6. Set the max clock to the highest and tell it to set on boot.

7. Enjoy :)

Keep in mind that this kernel is both undervolted and overclocked. So you're getting less power consumption as well as faster speeds.

This also fixes the issue that many had that prevented them from flashing it.

Direct Pershoot link

How to revert:

take the boot.img out of the cyanogen zip and fastboot flash boot boot.img

If you are using enom's, use a similar process (as well as pushing the proper .ko file back as well)

You could also just reflash the rom you were using before. That will get rid of the addon, and you won't have to wipe.

EDIT: You may have issues with the phone getting warmer while it is charging. If that is the case, simply set up charging profiles in setcpu.

This kernel is now undervolted for everything but 1.113ghz. So you should probably see about the same battery usage as a stock kernel :)
[Nexus One Android Development] rheza02:
can you upload to another website ?

4shared doesn't work really well on here.
[Nexus One Android Development] piggie916:
Works fine for me!
[Nexus One Android Development] rheza02:
yeah, works fine too now :D

thanks
[Nexus One Android Development] asci:
Are the improvements evident or it's only a metter of numbers?
[Nexus One Android Development] Eclair~:
This.

Is this extra amount of GHZs really of any interest to us? Or is it just a matter of knowing your phone is going above average speeds?
[Nexus One Android Development] rhov23:
You know this is XDA-developers right?

Pushing the limits is what it's all about
[Nexus One Android Development] serialtoon:
Oh yea. But is it worth frying the processor if there isnt any notable gains from doing this?
[Nexus One Android Development] Driskol:
What about the battery? Faster Draining?

Bye!
[Nexus One Android Development] rheza02:
its still using old voltage. nothing will happen.
[Nexus One Android Development] squintzzhero:
thank you!

this works on eno1.6.1 too. great work.
[Nexus One Android Development] DocRambone:
Some superpi results:

2720 with stock enom1.61

2410 with overclock :)
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
double quote to Rhov23!
[Nexus One Android Development] asci:
Does it mantain himem availability?
[Nexus One Android Development] amwayorlando:
I've got an error: can't load "zImagekmobs". Do I need to change the file extension to img? I tried with both the bat and img file extension. Got the same error. I did copy the zImagekmobs file to the fastboot folder.
[Nexus One Android Development] persiansown:
Yes. It was built of CM's source.

I do not plan on releasing a higher clock version, because a higher clock would require bumping the voltages. That is something I am not comfortable doing with a phone.
[Nexus One Android Development] kylez64:
put .dat at the end

for example

fastboot-windows flash zimage zImagekmobs.dat
[Nexus One Android Development] kylez64:
Definitely better safe then sorry
[Nexus One Android Development] m00moo:
thats why you dont OC unless you're willing to be sorry :) not very necessary is it?
[Nexus One Android Development] mgorman:
flashed and it booted. so far so good.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] FRSP:
Just confirmed working usb host mode on the magic 32b using hacked up version of the hero host patches posted to android-kernel google group by Andrew de Quincey, applied on top of current cyanogen. Y cable for external power required.

No where near ready for production (word to wise, dont try to mount a 32gb partition while each usb register operation is debug logged) but at least we now know the hardware can do it.

Chris
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] pagubg:
Can you provide the link with the patch?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] FRSP:
When I get rid of the hacked up part... supposed to be asleep right now.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] FRSP:
Andrew's patches are at

http://groups.google.com/group/android-kernel/browse_thread/thread/c8471573d7553331

The one for 2.6.27 will apply to current cyanogen 2.6.29.6 if you remove the diffs for the battery file which will fail incomplete.

However there is a bug that was causing one of the structure to get corrupted so some function pointers for phy setup never got called leading to inability to detect anything on the USB bus below the built-in hub. I did an ugly fix to verify the hardware works. I suspect for a real fix the hcd_to_msm7201() function needs an internal cast to (char *) or just some extra () or something to make the arithmetic come out right (it seems to be multiplying the size of the structs instead of adding them).

Of course you loose your adb when you play with this...
[HD2 General] Savage-wp:
I am using the 2Gb SD card that came with the phone.

I have moved the Opera Cache to the storage card. The problem i am having is that when I clear the cache from Opera, it takes a very long time. After 2 hours of surfing, it took about 6 mins, the phone just sat there with the coloured circles spinning. I have read on these forums that the card that comes with is a class 2 card, and that class 6 is faster.

How much faster, and will it make a big difference.

Thanks
[HD2 General] DennisMoore:
Since Opera creates a large amount of files, it'll always take a long time to flush the folder where the files are located.

I'm quite sure the class-specification addresses the transfer-rate and not the access-time.

So you could have a faster copy-rate, but deleting files would be as slow as now.

BTW: The same problem caused me to re-transfer the operacache back to flash-memory. The access-rates are much better there and so the process of deleting many files is faster.
[HD2 General] Savage-wp:
Hi Dennis.

Thanks for the reply. I'll probably just move the cache back to the phone as well.

As long as you periodically delete the cache, you won't run into any storage problems.
[HD2 General] Bib_x:
Hi, how can i set the maximum space of the cache? And how can i delete the cache? With file explorer or with a built in function in opera?
[HD2 General] Savage-wp:
Hi Bib_x. I think if you go to the opera config you can set the cache size.

Type opera:config in the address bar.

You can delete the cache using file explorer or the built in function in Opera. Makes no difference. I don't think you can do a select all in file explorer, so the function in Opera is easier.
[HTC Excalibur] timepassman:
is there any profile manager which allows changing profile for a specific time?

for example, goto vibrate mode for next 1 hr and then back to normal again automatically.

i keep forgetting changing profile back. :(
[HTC Excalibur] alm7room:
Any luck ?

I'm looking for the same software
[HTC Excalibur] TMinh:
I think SmartToolkit can do it.
[HTC Excalibur] gandi54:
CTscheduler lite will allow you to do this, I have mine set to silent at midnight, then back to normal at 8 in the morning...can also schedule other events too
[HTC Excalibur] timepassman:
i m now trying smartprofile v1.05

u can get it if u know whr to look
[TG01 Themes and Apps] rosedsed:
i just bought tgo1..anybody got medical software for tg01..
[TG01 Themes and Apps] LeTo08:
Hi,

What are you talking guy?

Is something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MNQmD_Jtco&feature=player_embedded#watch-main-area

Any more info if you want any help... :cool:
[TG01 Themes and Apps] rosedsed:
thank u boss
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] littlej:
Hy, i found a guy who has a bricked hero ( stucked at bootloop ) he is seling it preaty cheap and i'm wondering if maybe it can be revived. He said that u push the power buton, it starts up stays like that for like 5 seconds, than it shuts down. he also said that the problem started when he tried to upgrade it from 1.6 to 2.1 and also he mentioned that the phone was rooted before, but now wont enter in cyanogen ( havent got the time yet to read what cyanogen is).

here is a youtube video ( not his phone ) but where the phone is stuck, u can look at the second 26, there his phone reboots. what u say? can it be somehow revived? what do u sugest me? curently i own a diamond and i would love and android phone. cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nprussell:
I don't think that's bricked mate. A bricked Hero, typically, won't turn on at all.

Can he enter Fastboot?

I think it's Home+Back+Power...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] littlej:
as i said i dont have the phone but i could buy it for about 140euros if i have any chance to revive it. cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
i think i would take it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Branwen:
Or you could be generous and point him here, so he can fix it himself?

You know, be nice?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nprussell:
+1

(10 char)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] littlej:
he is seling it especialy becouse he does not have the time to get it to service or read some forums on the internet... the idea is, can it be fixed? should i buy it or not ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nprussell:
The chances are, it can be fixed.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lennyuk:
Story seems a bit strange to me

But yeah sounds like it can be fixed.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] -l-Z3K3-l-:
Offer 100 for it. Say you might be able to fix it and you are taking on all the risk!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] sphinxo:
This happened to me too. But it isn't bricked, at least it wasn't for me. I don't know if it's rooted, but mine was. I took out the sdcard, booted in to recovery (the one where you flash new ROM's, dunno if it's the right name). And then I wiped, and installed a new ROM.

Hope this helps :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] littlej:
hy, thx for information, can u be a little mor specific? if somehow it aint rooted is it anyproblems entering into recovery mode? this hapend to you also while upgrading from 1:6 to 2:1 ? sry for mistypes, posted from diamond cheers
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] screwhead89:
There is no 1.6 or 2.1 on Hero.

Also, Cynaogen mod hasn't been released for Hero but for the G1.

I would make sure that you are getting what you're paying for. Buy it off ebay and make him write that he'll accept returns.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pulser_g2:
If you see the network operator logo or the HTC logo, I reckon it's not bricked. Bricked usually equals nothing, or just an error triangle or something like that (even the error triangle may indicate hope).

I reckon it may be worth a shot (can't see any youtube link to see for myself).

Back+Power is to enter fastboot FWIW. Maybe you could ask him to plug it in and see if the charging LED comes on??? That sometimes indicates it's still working.

I'll vote 'boot-loop', which isn't critical. Should be fixable by goldcard and RUU downgrade, then installation of custom ROM.