yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] moonbug:
hi all

i have a spv m2000 and have just upgraded it to htc blueangel wm6.1 wwe

and have a few problems

1. as soon as the phone opens i says the file 'screentotate' cannot be opened

then x-button cannot be opened

2.my homepage is blank just got the start bar at the topand the keybord at the bottom

3.i cant open contacts, i click on it and it just opens and shuts down again

4. in the menu all my stuff has doubled and some have trippled and are un usable

before i put htc blueangel wm6.1 wwe i put WM6.5 Build 23004 WWE R7.1 and found that the contacts did not work so i thought it was just a bad os. so i put on htc blueangel wm6.1 wwe and it has just made it worse.

is there any way i can wipe it completey clean and start again

thanks

matt
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development] Chef_Tony:
please don't double post, also i am to understand that this issue is resolvedd already.
[S740, S743 General] gt170:
I installed youtube client and shazam Music ID and now it doesn't play the videos it played before. german localization. Player tells "Der Quellfilter für diese Datei konnte nicht geladen werden" (something like the source codec for this file couldn't be loaded)

Any idea how to fix this?

well. I tried windows update yesterday (with no results as the device couldn't connect to any update server).

resets etc. didn't help so far.
[S740, S743 General] Enricosteph:
Hy!

Lösch die Programme und installier sie einfach nochmal neu....wenn der Codec aus irgend einem grund gelöscht wurde hilft auch kein reset.....einfach neu installieren....

Zu "Windows Update".....die option ist zwar unter Windows Mobile 6.1 vorhanden aber leider ohne funktion....bei keinem Gerät......

MFG
[S740, S743 General] gt170:
thanks mate. that solved the issue. probably the "youtube full" app killed it. now I use the official one (from m.google.com)
[HD2 General] adrianfly:
Someone knows if you have got 1Gb ROM hidden the hd2? or are you working for finding the "hidden ROM"?(if the phone has got it). Sorry for my english

Greetings yo all
[HD2 General] appelflap:
That's almost like asking: "anyone found god somewhere?" :D
[HD2 General] yusufjee:
hehehe made my day. But to answer the original poster, no.
[HD2 General] aikon359:
Well sayin that, i think its a fair question from the OP. i dont know why he is being shot down so quickly.

We already all know now that our EU LEO's come with the 576 ram like the US LEO's, so why is it so unrealistic to assume that they might ship with the same rom aswell? (just software locked away)

Has anyone actually confirmed that the chip on the main logic board is 100% deffinatley a 512mb rom yet? (i believe some dedicated forum members are looking into it at this moment)

Until this is confirmed aswell, im still open to the idea that HTC just shipped that same phone to us in the EU that the US are getting aswell.

Its not Impossible guys.
[HD2 General] Spike15:
While I am loath to think that HTC would do something like this, Intel does it all the time...

...so it's not unheard of...
[HD2 General] Beastage:
There is nothing loathsome about it, HTC published the specs and we paid the money, it isn't like they delivered an inferior product to what they claimed.

In fact... they gave us more for the price we paid and if it is actually 1GB of ROM... well oh boy, triple booting WM6.6, Android and Maemo anyone?
[HD2 General] aikon359:
i just still cant figure out HTC's reasoning for crippling the eu phone at release though. its strange. Surely it took them more time and resources to try and hide that extra 128mb ram instead of just releasing it with its full compliment.

Maybe t-mobile usa made an agreement with HTC just prior to the original relase in the eu so they could have what appears to be a superior unit.

At that point, instead of changing the manufacturing process and parts (thus costing them more money to reorder different nand chips) they just software crippled the EU version so the usa Model looked better on release.

The mind boggles lol!
[HD2 General] aikon359:
@Beastage - I like the way you think ;-) im just holding out patiently for the awesome devs here to crack the hard ole task of booting Anroid onto the HD2 (fingers crossed when the HTC Bravo **im pretty sure it was the bravo at least lol** is released, someone will rip the rom from that and possibly port it over, seein as the bravo appears to basically be a reworked HD2 eh. 0_0 )
[HD2 General] Spike15:
I guess you're an uneducated bumpkin who thinks "loath" and "loathe" have the same meaning.

I said: "[...] I am loath to think that HTC would [...]".

What this merely meant was that I was reluctant to think that HTC would put hardware in a device, and then lock the use of said hardware out in software, due to the fact I don't like this practice.

I have no problems with the specs I paid for, nor do I have a problem with the specs changing for the T-Mobile HD2, the only problem I have is with them advertising one set of specs, delivering a device with hardware in excess of the specs, and then making the software make the hardware appear to be in-line with the advertised specs.
[HD2 General] Starfury:
"Crippling" implies it was intentionally... they may just have run out of development time for the product and needed to release it without the additional memory address registers for the full RAM to be utilised. Between the Euro launch and USA launch they are releasing new firmware and radio's and because of this we are able to access the additional RAM (2.02 ROM and 2.06 Radio)

Alternatively maybe they were having confliction somewhere when the extra RAM was addressed so they chose to limit it to a stable amount to make sure the HD2 release went on time in Europe/Asia... and therefore I suppose that could be classed as crippling the device but also making it stable.
[HD2 General] appelflap:
I didn't intend to shot the OP down. I think it's a rather metaphysical question at the moment. But at this point I want to declare myself agnostic. I don't see the point of not asking questions about the hidden ghost in our machines, but I don't embrase them either.

I'm happy with my device as it is... but, on the other hand, the more the better of cause :)

It's a rather philosophical question about the attitude towards technology. I like Heideggers standpoint on this: we should say yes and no to it (lol, speaking of off-topic reactions...)
[HD2 General] aikon359:
im deffinatley with you on that one appleflap ;-)

the more i can squeeze out of this device the better ;-)

fingers crossed with whats going on, it seems to be a good year for the hd2!

1: 576 ram instead of 448

2: possible 1gb rom instead of 512

3: full n spec wireless

4: possible fm transmitter

5: android at some point

6: WM 7

God it feels like christmas came early lol
[HD2 General] koong32:
if i were htc executive i will talk to ms whether 512mb ram enough for wm7 or not. then ms will say to me wm7 needs 1gb ram . so htc please make device to support ms coz i want many peop;e to use my products. hows this? u think htc executive is stupid?
[HD2 General] Archer:
No, I don't think "htc executive" is stupid, but that's not how business works. They'd be more likely to sell us something now that will not run WM7, so that we have to buy something else at the end of the year that will support it. Don't forget, by the time WM7 comes out the HD2 will have been out for about a year. If there is 1GB of ROM there (and I really, really don't think there is, but would love to be wrong), I seriously doubt it's got anything to do with WM7.
[HD2 General] appelflap:
But then again, htc could not be stupid in another way. Maybe their strategy is as follows: bring a powerful device on the market (most powerful at the current moment) and reveal more horsepower when the competitors are coming with their answers. I think that is marketing strategy that could really work. Especially when you've created a broad user-base for a particular device.
[HD2 General] kilrah:
That might be far-fetched, but *could* have to do with taxing. In certain countries in Europe, like mine, digital devices are taxed on the amount of memory they hold. The tax amount is pretty high as well, and since this was introduced the majority of MP3 players and phones have gone the "small onboard memory with memory card slot" way, sometimes even bundling them with a memory card to get around the tax...

So this could be related, keeping the amount of memory under X allowing to either avoid the tax in the said countries, or at least stay below a certain tax level...

When they introduced it, it more or less killed the home set-top DVD recorders with HDD, as for example the price for a 250GB model that would cost $300 (before tax) was taxed an insane extra $100...
[HD2 General] Archer:
These are all relevant arguments, and they all have up-sides and down-sides. For example, how unhappy would you be if after having a HD2 for say 8 months, HTC turn round and say "Here... run this. It will double your ROM size." Although you'd be grateful, I bet you'd be annoyed too, remembering all those times you were nearly out of storage space, insisting on not installing marketplace apps and having to manually move caches to your storage card!

Let's simply agree that business decisions very rarely make sense to the people they actually affect.
[HD2 General] GuestD0352:
u all know, that there will be 2 versions of the WM7.. one business and one multimedia.. i think, when the WM7 comes out, then we get just the business bcs. it will not need so many space, and the 1GB version gets the multimedia.. we will see..

PS: when u look on the PSP u see.. when it came out, the CPU was?? and now?
[HD2 General] DTDK:
some of you keep saying that the EU models shipped with the hidden ram that the usa version has, does this mean that the asian versions do not have the extra ram hidden away?

thanks
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
it has the hidden ram are in hd2 worldwide version and it was first discovered in an asian hd2 just flash the proper radio and hav fun
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
we will get the business version not because our hd2 cannot hold multimedia version but because business version could hold different ui like htc sense but multimedia cannot

multimedia is only used for devices with pure windows and not for htc devices
[HD2 General] lepszy:
'The Chassis 1 requirements were leaked for Windows Mobile 7 a while back and the new leak that details the requirements for Windows Mobile 7 show that the platform is geared towards the high-end smartphone users, with on-board storage, a capable camera, and sensors requirements, and vivid screen. Here are the latest leaked specs:

-1GHz processor

-3.6 inch WVGA display

-G-sensor and compass

-8GB of onboard memory

-5MP camera

These specs lead to some speculations that Microsoft may be applying a dual-OS strategy for Windows Mobile. Some are saying that the Redmond, Washington firm may using Windows Mobile 7 for the high end devices while keeping Windows Mobile 6.x available for lower-end devices since they don't have expensive hardware requirements.'

8 GB onboard memory? Looks like we're not gettin WM7.
[HD2 General] maps71:
Microsoft, during a report of its latest financial results, confirmed that Windows Mobile would be announced soon. Peter Klein, CFO of Microsoft, said that the new version of Windows Mobile would be unveiled "in a few weeks." The common thought that Windows Mobile 7 will be announced at the MWC is probably correct.

There is also more on the minimum required specs for the Windows Mobile 7. Some of you will be glad as the ones we got from Eldar Murtazin might indeed be wrong. Eldar Murtazin, after he played with the wrong ones, saw the correct specs.

Minimum RAM: 128MB (at least 256MB is recommended though)

Minimum ROM: 512MB

CPU: 600MHz ARM v6+

3.6 inch display is not a requirement

WVGA resolution is not necessary – WM7 phones will have various resolutions, including QVGA

Compass is not a requirement (although it’s recommended)

G-Sensor (accelerometer) is also not a requirement, but it’s recommended

Most will agree that this looks allot better while the first specs where more debatable.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Anyone who believes that garbage should have a phone - it's obviously too advanced for them.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
no phone will have 8gb rom for years this is s*it
[HD2 General] lepszy:
and why exactly is it so hard to believe?

It's flash memory they're talking about not rom
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
what is the need of flash memory with the existance of memory card
[HD2 General] dagrim1:
Speed mainly I guess
[HD2 General] Tanmay®:
Damn! Im actually disappointed by MS now! When it had a higher specs of 1Ghz Proc and 512RAM I'd actually though MS finally decided to set a bar for quality of the OS.
[HD2 General] Robrecht:
Sorry for taking this even further off topic, but hell yeah: I'm no longer the only one to ever quote Heidegger on this forum! Check out this post from a time when having 4gb of storage still gave me the metaphysical heebie-jeebies:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=936122&postcount=4

Less than 4 years later, I have a 16gb microSD card that's nearly full with only a fraction of all the music I now (think I) need. It's scary how technology dictates our lives, even if we try to remain aware of it...

But anyway, back to topic! :-)
[HD2 General] donwhann:
ignore,wrong posting.......
[HD2 General] X1-owner:
If those specs are true it's a disaster. This is the first time I hear of this spec downgrade, and I will not believe it until I hear it from a more reliable source.
[HD2 General] Jack E:
I think the most worrying thing in those requirements is the CPU speed :-O
[HD2 General] Archer:
THOSE SPECS ARE NOT TRUE!!!

Please stop perpetuating this rubbish that has spread through most smartphone sites.
[HD2 General] lepszy:
Could you be so kind and give us TRUE specs then, please?
[HD2 General] Jack E:
lol they did seem a bit far fetched didn't they :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] domineus:
maybe not so farfetched if this is for the stripped OEM version of 7 and not the media (full) experience to be released next year

heck chainfire has said quite a few times the code for 7 can run on a samsung i780. So it may be likely this is true - but in the long run ...
[HD2 General] Archer:
I don't have the TRUE specs, as you put it. I'm just not daft enough to believe and then reproduce that drivel.
[HD2 General] lepszy:
So you don't know the true specs but you know they're not true. Interesting.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
you are right no one really knows the requirements of wm7 (those who always said they know are liars they choose the best specifications that could a device hold and say those are thr requirements of wm7 ,rubbish!)
[HD2 General] Archer:
You don't have to know what colour my cats are just to know they're not seethrough, do you?
[HD2 General] Benjiro:
It has already been confirmed that the WM7 will only support WVGA & VGA. So, those fake specs, with QVGA are already out off the boat.

Also, WM6.x will be there to support the older, and lower specs devices, where as WM7.x will be for the new generation devices, and upwards.

It makes no sense for MS to bring out WM7, to support the older & lower spec hardware, when almost all Mid level to high level devices that will come out, will be Cortex A8 ( ARMv7 ) based, with 256MB or more ram...

There is a saying: "Don't belief everything you read on the internet" ;)
[HD2 General] lepszy:
-1GHz processor

-3.6 inch WVGA display

-G-sensor and compass

-8GB of onboard memory

-5MP camera

So which part of this specs is fake than?
[HD2 General] Archer:
Why don't we all just wait until Microsoft, THE COMPANY THAT IS MAKING WINDOWS MOBILE 7, release the requirements? Unless, of course, you prefer to read recycled tweets with no source of validation whatsoever. Your choice. I know what I choose (the sensible option).

Just one question for you lepszy. Can you please tell me where on my phone I can get the screen size? (not resolution). Thanks.
[HD2 General] domineus:
manufacturer website or even measure it

hd2 is 4.3 in diagonal though
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
you are right no os limits screen size it only limits resolution
[HD2 General] kholk:
If I remember well, there we was talking about the HTC HD2 and the possible 1GB of NAND.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i really forgot about that
[HD2 General] aikon359:
lol the thread has kinda digressed hasnt it.

ill have a dig aorund at the internal photos that were taken to see if i can identify what nand chip is actually being used. no promises tho, as im a tad busy at the moment. also, if i end up flashing my HD2 this weekend (which will inveriably void the warranty) ill crack it open and take more shots than previous for people (have a sony alpha dslr with cracking macro so should be able to get come real close up shots i hope)
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
warranty is only temporarily void by flashing....very easy to flash back to stock rom and spl and hey presto...warranty valid.
[HD2 General] lepszy:
And what WVGA is if not a resolution?

I know its all just rumors but sometimes rumors are true. Cant see why we cant talk about it, are we suppose not to mention WM7 until its released? I quoted perfectly possible required specs for WM7 and I was told that I shouldnt have a phone because its to advance for me.

Anyway sorry for OT.
[HD2 General] aikon359:
if only i could find a uk tmobile rom. that would be a godsend!!!
[HD2 General] lepszy:
you can find it on this forum
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
look in official roms sticky in rom development section
[HD2 General] Euroman28:
Could it be that the reason for the bigger ram/rom T-Mobile US version of our phone that:

Maybe T-Mobile plans to put some extra sh*t in their Rom which requires extra space?
[HD2 General] alunalub:
+1 LOL haha haha
[HD2 General] D.O.C:
This thread already deviated from its original title, 1GB ROM..... maybe u guys can open a windows 7 specs thread? just a thought..:p
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i mean screen size in inches
[HD2 General] aikon359:
@samsamuel and lepzy

The only official tmobile rom i could find when i looked before in that sticky was the 2.02 tmobile us rom. at the moment i havent seen the original or any, uk tmobile official roms at all.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
I was assured thursday night that there is one, honest!someone posted a link in a thread j was posting in. keep looking, its there somewhere.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
try looking for the rom mentioned in this thread

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5456444
[HD2 General] aikon359:
@samsamuel

i think that rom has been taken off. i looked in the 1.43 section 4 times and theres only the htc, o2 and vodafone one ;-(. maybee it was deleted?
[HD2 General] aikon359:
result! dug around on google and found one of tonyj999's posts elsewhere leading to a 4shared acount with it. w00t!
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
yea, not all roms are in that first post, you gotta dig around.(well, YOU don't cause you already found it..hehe)

job sorted.happy flashing.
[HD2 General] aikon359:
ta sam! least i can have a right monkey around with this phone.

tho i still might just void the warranty anyway and crack this beauty open to find that elusive nand chip lol
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
hah just can't help yourself....good man.
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
has anyone done a thorough check to see if this 576mb of RAM ACTUALLY exists? sure the os is READING it as 576mb but couldn't that be simply because we've flashed the radio from a device that is 576Mb and are simply 'tricking' the OS into believing there's more RAM on board than there actually is. anyone who's ever bought a duff memory stick off eBay will no that its quite easy to trick an OS with respect to storage capacity.

anyone out there who can reassure me??
[HD2 General] koong32:
we called this 'forum' the place to discuss right so please do not ask to wait . please ignor this subject if u think its wasting your time. but here i enjoy i understand forum not news or offial news section.
[HD2 General] dagrim1:
Someone had filled up their ram to about the maximum amount, which could make you consider it 'proven'. For more/the confirmation, please check this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=622964

Of course you can always doubt everything but it really seems to be the case :)
[HD2 General] adrianfly:
up:):rolleyes::rolleyes:
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
there havebeen tests done mate please use search function and you will know
[HD2 General] leobox1:
hey folks.. i am still reading 448 RAM for my HD2.. how do i get some of the 576 RAM love.. heehee
[HD2 General] Stephen Selby:
Well there's certainly 10MB of hidden RAM with a file called __TFAT_HIDDEN_ROOT_DIR__ . They may well have left some ROM for expansion. The rate they're churning out ROM updates, it seems as if the HTC ROM is a 'work in progress'.
[HD2 General] Kelthuzar:
what makes you think i haven't checked every single thread? I've red all posts about the ram and there is no confirmation whatsoever to be existent. So i am sorry but until i see it myself i cant believe it. I will disassemble my hd2 with the help of a friend - engineer :) After that i will post you my findings >< :)
[HD2 General] ralphfx:
New info on Hynix MCP chips

I've posted this in the 448 or 576 MB thread, but that keeps going off topic, so I thought I'd post it here also:

There seems to be SOME information about Hynix MCP on the web. This is all I can find (for now), but the part numbers of seemingly all Hynix MCP chips (at least the NEW ones) start with H8B.. Both MCP chips you will find on the following sites have 1GB NAND Flash and 512MB RAM.

See for yourself. Maybe this is useless info, maybe not, who knows :P

http://company.china.alibaba.com/athena/offerdetail/sale/santos2000-1035687-576635281.html

http://company.china.alibaba.com/athena/offerdetail/sale/santos2000-1035687-576635273.html

As xda member Appelflap noted in the other thread (this one):

It would be helpful if someone who speaks Korean could call or e-mail the company of the two links I provided to ask for more information about the Hynix MCP in the HD2 (the H8BES0UU0MCR-46M)

EDIT: Hynix is a South Korean company! So I've changed that.
[HD2 General] Starfury:
English translations for the two weblinks you posted

http://translate.google.com/transla...detail/sale/santos2000-1035687-576635281.html

http://translate.google.com/transla...detail/sale/santos2000-1035687-576635273.html
[HD2 General] huggy_72:
ok I have found this hope can help @someone@

right pleace to make search is this http://www.hynix.com/gl/products/index.jsp?menuNo=1&m=0&s=0 or http://www.hynix.com/gl/index.jsp

if you search for H8BES0UU0MCR on top bar search product search select,

there is 1 result, but is hiden!! then if you press all there is 1206 result 81 page but some page are hiden....for most chip there a desription some are custumer sample ....

this is the large company of hynix http://en.krheco.com/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/index.html

nanya have Brochure part numbering guide y2010

and here http://hscs.hynix.com/ch_sa/index.jsp

there is some link for handling guide, but it say to me pdf is damaged....

some other info require login.....
[HD2 General] kinnyfaifai:
Have checked any of the custom ROM threads? I've seen a few chefs enabling the hidden ROM by flashing the correct radio version and ROM combination.
[HD2 General] ralphfx:
You are talking about the RAM.. We already know the RAM is 576MB.

Now, we are trying to find out if the HD2 has 1GB of ROM.

(RAM and ROM are not the same)
[HD2 General] huggy_72:
here they have adapter, machine and program, to develop, and the H8..... is supported,

Hynix H8BES0UU0MCR-46M
[HD2 General] ralphfx:
Found supplier!

http://nosin21cn.cn.alibaba.com/athena/offerdetail/sale/nosin21cn-1035144-581925960.html

See above link. I found a supplier that has the MCP chip for order. This site is in chinese, so maybe someone from china (or someone who can write chinese) could contact this company.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Chinese suppliers are usually able to find some English translator, especially if it seems like you'll do business with them. Inquire about the chip. ;)