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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ok, I'd like to break this post down...

Isn't this what was implemented into FRX04 already?

Different from the ones in viruscrazy's test kernel thread...?

This does seem to alleviate the issue, but doesn't make it disappear.

Please clarify what you've done here... What RIL driver?

I'd like you to clarify what you did here as well.... Thanks.

Anything in particular?

Sorry to ask these questions, but if you are doing this for the greater good, we need to know exactly what we're changing, and what effects it could have. We can't just commit it "because"... I wish it was that easy, but we'd end up with an incredible mess if that was the case.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
ok i will do that. First let me make sure this baby can run, with no issue.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
It only takes a couple minutes to answer his questions, and if you do maybe some people smarter than I can point out some things that might be affected by your changes or things to test for in your modified version, it doesn't do any good to keep it secret in this case.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] aichemist:
Just wondering, is it normal to see red led light while charging ? I can still sleep (see green led light) after i unplug the charger. This is with the latest 1/30 kernal
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Well, phone can't sleep while charging... so yes, that is normal.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Bld-:
Thanks for your explanation.

I haven't tested the above yet, because since yesterday I didn't have any SoD's..

The only thing I've done is uninstall Advanced Task Killer and soft reset.

So time will tell if that was the cause..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] husam666:
Google apps are eating my ram :mad:

every few seconds i see a list of running apps (eg. voice search, mail app, market,voice dialer....) in the task manager. and every time i kill them, the come back to life. i dont use these apps and they eat about 1/2 of my ram. i get 120MB free ram when killing them and 60MB when they start

any idea how to disable them, i tried using apps but its all useless. :(

-how can i calibrate the battery meter? i had almost perfect accuracy with froyox (just saying)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Geko90:
noob question:

where are the latest packages? on the project page it's updated to the 23th jan...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
FRX04 is the most stable build. Builds don't update very often.

You need to download a kernel. Almost every day you can donwload a new kernel.

Example threads for a kernel:

first thread

second thread
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
FroyoX doesn't have any effect on your battery, so that was placebo effect.

How to disable Google apps...? Don't use Android.

It's been told up and down that you shouldn't be killing apps. Free RAM isn't how Linux works, if you had a Linux PC you might understand this - Linux uses all the RAM it can find, and then shuffles things around as needed. Windows... doesn't do this, and I understand how you would think this applies to Linux/Android as well. It doesn't, remember, Windows is NOT Linux... for a reason! ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] husam666:
lol

thx for the info. I don't care about battery life that much. I barely go out :p

I use ubuntu sometimes but nerver noticed this. No wonder linux is faster than window.

anyways what did you mean by placebo effect?

(sry im not a native speaker i dont get some phrases :o)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Placebo is like a sugar pill - it doesn't do anything, but you think it does something...

The reason I say that FroyoX can't have a different battery meter is you're using the same kernels - and the battery algorithm code is in the kernel, not the system image.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] husam666:
thx, I'll try to be less whiney next time xD
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] BigOnes69:
Is it not also true that the core architecture is designed to allow certain chips to handle processes to free up the core processor. That these threads maintain this bypass and to shut them off will create all kinds of havoc and undue stress on the processor??? So app killers are good for shutting down non essential processes but if you use them to shut down everything you are stabbing yourself in the foot. The app killer or memory manager must be set up to not affect these core processes. Which if they are any good could be done. I personally dont use them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Obviously, you shouldn't be killing core processes. Some probably won't even let you kill them...

But yea, I wouldn't use an app killer tool unless I had a rogue app that was not behaving - that's really the only time you should be killing apps. Otherwise you'll experience data loss as the app didn't close properly.

If you look at the app killer program, it should say which apps are "active" and which are in the "background" - background apps don't hurt anything, they're just saved there so they can quickly be called upon again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
1-Isn't this what was implemented into FRX04 already?........ I DON'T THINK SO.

2-Different from the ones in viruscrazy's test kernel thread...? YES 5 LIBS DRIVERS JUST FOR THE CAMERA SUPPORT.

3-This does seem to alleviate the issue, but doesn't make it disappear. AT LIST WE CAN CONTROL THE DATA BETTER. PEOPLE CAN ADD THEIR ON SETTINGS.

4-Please clarify what you've done here... What RIL driver?....THE RIL JUST PROVIDES AN INTERFACE FOR PASSING DATA BETWEEN THE BASEBAND. (libhtc_ril.so )

5-I'd like you to clarify what you did here as well.... Thanks.....I ADD IT XML FOR, CAMERA, HARDWARE, GPS, AND FEW MORE MORE.

6-Anything in particular?.... THIS I WILL TELL YOU LATER. I TOOK SOME OUT AND I ADD SOME IN.

so far everthing is work very smooth sinse last night. i left the phone full charge. it at 90% that 7 hr.

when i get home i will let you guys test it. guys remember i just testing this. i already re-boot it 7 times back and forth. and still nothing. i'm at work right now. i will start to heavy use frx04 right now. just to maker sure. today i will upload FRX04 for everyone to test. that is, if i don't get that damm server bug.

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
K, going to break this down again... Hopefully to make it easier to read, my responses are in blue.

I guess we'll just wait and see... It really would help if we could hash all this out on IRC - doing this back and forth in the forums isn't so productive. I do appreciate your work, but in order to benefit from it we need to break it down. I know it's a pain, but this is collaboration - we need to work together so we can be stronger as a whole.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
I know buddy. It's just time. You know family, kids, work, dog. It's crazy for me. For this I will need time. But let see what happen.

Thanks man.

FROYO X/SPRINT TOUCH PRO 2/RHOD
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
You should search other advanced Android user forums that deal more specifically with this stuff. Turning off the Google's apps is pretty involved actually, there's ways to do it, but it tends to break other stuff in the process. I've seen others remove gtalk.apk for example, and that breaks the market.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
It's taken us almost 2 years to get to this stage, so time at this point is no big deal.

I know we all have personal lives, I just want to know what you're actually changing so we can analyze if they have any effects. Doing this all on your own might be valiant, but it's stupid. No offense, it's just not very productive as you're not telling us exactly what you're doing. Assuming your changes do actually fix the problem, we'd like to get them integrated instead of you just pumping out builds like a madman. The newbies love you for that, and you have created a lot of interest in this project again - but we need to slow down, and take it one step at a time. These things take time, Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will XDAndroid ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
UPDATE ON FRX04 SERVER BUG

5 HR OF HEAVY USE. MY FRIEND FROM FLORIDA CALL ME TO TELL ME THAT HIS DAUGHTER GOT FIRST HONORS IN SCHOOL. I CLICK END

TO END THE CALL. PUT THE PHONE TO SLEEP. THEN 5 MINUTE PASSED, I WAS GOING TO USE THE PHONE TO CHECK ON XDA AND PPC. LOCK

SCREEN. SLIDE THE LOCK BAR TO THE RIGHT AND BOOM, THE DAMM BUG AGAING. DAMM GUYS, I THOUGH I HAD IT.

PLAN B. Arrr. I WILL PM YOU. THERE'S ALWAY A PLAN B. I HAVE SOMETHING IMPORTAND TO TELL YOU. THIS COULD BE THE CAUSE

OF THIS BUG. THOSE SETTING, WAS JUST FOR TEST. I'LL PM YOU AFTER WORK. I'LL SEE IF CAN GET INTO THE IRC TODAY.

THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Sounds good, I look forward to talking to you about this.

Can't say I'm not surprised. Honestly from breaking down all that you did, hard-coding the APN was probably the only one with any merit. Like I said before, it definitely helps alleviate the issue... but it certainly doesn't make it disappear. Gotta be more methodical about this, I'm not just not sure how to attack it. I've given WisTilt2 several logs from the issue, we'll probably just need many more logs and someone with some RIL knowledge - I don't think anyone is a RIL guru on the team... Just a few guys who knew enough to piece it together...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] leatherman:
TP2 freezes when using internet..problem

I've completed 24 hours of using the "wistilt2s 1/30 kernel" with the FRX04, before configuring the APN, it was working perfectly, I have rebooted 3 times and no lagging, but after configuring the APN, the internet didn't work until I rebooted the mobile then worked normally, so I started to surfe the web by opening the yahoo page and after almost the page downloaded the mobile froze and didn't respond until I soft reset it, then again I've opened the market and froze again, I have noticed also that I can't see my SD card content from the "manage application", and here under is a copy of my startup.txt file:

set ramsize 0x10000000

set ramaddr 0x10000000

set mtype 2292

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off force_cdma=0 gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 hw3d.force=1 physkeyboard=rhod400 rel_path=andboot"

boot

Notes:

1- When I had my first call after booting the android, I couldn't hear the caller so I switched on my speaker to hear him and then turned off and I can hear the caller normally.

2- I got one time lagging after configuring the APN and the mobile froze and had to soft reset.

3- I didn't get SOD during all the day of use. "great job devs"

from my opinion I think the "wistilt2s 1/30 kernel" is the best kernel I've used, waiting your new versions and really "well done"

Edit 1:

Again I got a freeze while surfing the market. thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Eodun:
Let me ask a question,

Is TP2 the only device with SOD?

I've been using XDAndroid in my blackstone since my first post around here, changing kernels, system.ext2, rebooting, OC'ing, etc and not even 1 SOD. Sometimes android reboots by itself (if I remember correctly, only after installing some apps from market), but nothing that qualifies for SOD, really.

I'm the luckiest man in earth or no SOD's in other devices?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Skasselbat:
btw. What exactly is this ominous "SOD" ?

I read this now many times in different Threads but i cant figure out what the people mean with it.

Is it so simple that the phone just did´nt come back from Sleep_Mode ? Cause i had never this problem with my TP2 rhod_100de.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
SOd means Sleap of Death. So what you're saying is right. When you want to wake up you phone, by pressing the power button, and nothing is happening in the next 5 minutes.

Sometimes i takes a while to wake-up than it's obviously no SoD.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Just impossible to wake the phone basically, no matter what the phone will not wake up.

I thought it was all devices, not sure. Definitely happens to RAPH/RHOD, although cause might be different.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] robsonline:
For few weeks now I have been having an issue with system & email processes taking up 100% of the CPU. I assumed it was the system bug everyone is talking about. Today I decide to slowly add settings/apps back and reboot to see if I could narrow it down. When I setup my exchange email and set it to check every hour, I started getting the 100% CPU issue. I removed my email, and it went away. I added my email back, but left it set to push mail. It appears that when I set mail to check every hour, it pegs the CPU. When I leave it set to push mail, it works fine. I have done multiple boots with this setting, and it is working fine. Then I set it back to 1 hour, and the CPU pegged again. Changing this one setting makes it fail every time. Removing it restores functionality. I don’t know if this has anything to do with the system bug, but I thought I would post my experience. I did search and looked at the FAQ to see if this was a known issue, but I did not find anything.

I have tested this issue using Froyo X (1/28/11) and XDANDROID (1/23/11), and I have recreated it with both.

Rob
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] aichemist:
Is there like meeting we can go to listen to you guys discuss about the progress? We promise just to listen =).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Well what the system_server bug seems to be a loop. WisTilt2 actually believes he has resolved this issue. He still doesn't have the root cause solved, but he seems to have a workaround. I'm going to post it in my testing thread as soon as he gets it to me :D.

For anyone wanting a summary, here it be:

Of course! IRC -> freenode -> #htc-linux. I would recommend just lurking, as many do ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] snalbansed:
And if that means nothing to you - go to the FAQ (link on first page of this thread), then there is a link there somewhere to IRC logs, or you can use an app within the webpage to connect to the IRC directly.

Sorry for being vague - I'm on the TP2!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
Hmm. Fresh frx04 install, with 2/1 test kernel and F22 rootfs, most things work OK, but I can't make any outbound calls. I can receive calls fine, but dialing gives this error message:

"Connection problem or invalid MMI code."

What the heck is that? (Was using FroyoX before, and everything is OK there.)

Edit: ok, deleted data.img again and now it's fine after another fresh boot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jphaus:
No GPS

Does anyone have any tips or tricks to get GPS working? It worked for me early on in FRX03 and at some point along the way with updates (including FRX04) it stopped getting my location. Android shows me somewhere in the Gulf of Guinea, which according to a few searches I've done relates to 0,0 in the GPS unit. When I flip into WinMo, it locks onto my correct position in a matter of seconds so I am sure that the receiver does work.

I have tried logging into/out of Latitude, and have tried checking and unchecking "Use wireless networks" and "Use GPS satellites" numerous times in the locations settings. I have also tried QuickGPS and it too picks up the same (incorrect) location. Last night I upgraded to the new 5.1 version of Maps as well.

I am running out of things to try so am looking for suggestions. Sprint Rhod400 user.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
You said you tried QuickGPS and it picks up the same incorrect location...? As in QuickGPS, the WinMo software?

I usually recommend people run QuickGPS in WinMo before booting Android, as the tower data it downloads seems to decrease my lock times significantly in Android. I've even been able to get a lock in my basement when before, nothing.

Either way, might want to try a new data.img. Removing that (and letting the system build a new one) fixes the oddest of bugs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jphaus:
Oops, sorry about the QuickGPS reference -- I meant one of the ones from the Android market - in this case it was "GPS Test". I was afraid you might say that I should try a new data.img, which I will do tonight. But first I will try QuickGPS in WinMo before booting to Android - I don't think I've ever used it for that purpose. Will report back shortly. Thanks arrrghhh!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pgdrz4:
I get SOD on my Tilt2 like three times a day, and reboots like once or twice a day. Lots of bugs in the current version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] JBS2:
The SOD issue seems to be fixed as we speak: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=885550
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
Really?? What kernal? I only get SOD when my tilt2 has been asleep 5+ hours like when I go to bed and leave it charging. Is your phone sleeping properly with the green light?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] snalbansed:
rhod100 with AUO panel

Basic instructions for a working build on a rhod100 with the awkward AUO panel - this is easier if you can put the SD card in a PC rather than doing it on your phone!

* Download the FRX04 rar build from http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads - you want the one that is labelled as 'RAR - Android v2.2.1 Froyo: Reference'

* Open the rar archive (try 7-zip if you are having trouble)

* Delete/rename any andboot folders from the root of your SD card

* Extract the andboot folder from the rar archive to your SD card - ignore the Program Files folder

* Delete the zImage file from andboot

* Delete the modules-2.6.27.46-01253-gd53ddf6.tar.gz file

* Download the htc-msm-linux @ 20101124_215731 file from http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/

* Open the archive

* Extract both files from the archive into andboot on your sd card

* Rename zImage_20101124_215731 to zImage

* Edit the startup.txt to make sure that force_cdma=0 and physkeyboard=rhod100

* Put the sd card back in your phone, navigate to the andboot folder and launch haret.exe. (In due course, you can setup a shortcut, but this will do to get started).

That should get you running, and it should be reasonably stable. Obviously as it is such an old kernel (November 24th), we miss out on lots of lovely improvements - some related to the panel (much much improved battery life in the test kernel), some not (like keyboard backlights).

On a related note - does anyone with a rhod100 with the AUO panel use a newer kernel than November 24th? I have had good fortune with one of the early test kernels, but only for 24 hours, then I would get SOD within a few minutes of boot after that! Otherwise we will have to continue to wait for our panel to be sorted out. PLEASE!

I hope that helps.

Ed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] wormy315:
I found that the first kb/bl kernel worked perfectly. Every kernel after that would freeze after about 30 seconds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pgdrz4:
yep, something as simple as downloading an app gives me SOD sometimes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] bloodlustv6:
question

can i watch videos on this? i used the youtube player but i only hear sounds no video

i even downloaded a video but only sounds no video

what am i not doing here?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I've found that HQ doesn't work _at all_. Play it in "SD" - just uncheck the HQ option in other words.

In addition, I found the Youtube "app" works better than going thru the browser.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] AkumaX:
have you tried the camera kernel?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] snalbansed:
So you are able to use 1246 from 7th January on a rhod100_uk with the AUO panel for more than 24 hours? Cool - I'll check it out!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
Just to add to this, I don't think there's a way to prevent the Youtube app from going HQ on wifi. So no Youtube on wifi.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] sjabbie88:
Same goes for me!

No problems with SOD, and I used my phone yesterday from 9am to 8pm quite frequently (just websurfing,emailing,texting, some phonecalls) without an empty batterie too.:D

Only small thing is,,Wifi gives an error when enabling (while working perfectly in kernel 1177,ok I know that`s quite a jump...)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] snalbansed:
I've been running that kernel for about 7 hours now, and it is looking good. However, I also get an immediate error when I turn on wifi. Does anyone know if there was an issue with the modules for that build? I assumed at first I had cocked up, but if you are getting the same...

Maybe a new data.img is called for, just to check.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Atmosphere:
My Rhod100UK slows down from time to time... has automatic reboots also.... it also has the SOD.

I ran:

cat /proc/last_kmsg

during the time it started to slow down... also the previous time it rebooted on its own... and before that it had the SOD.

When it slows down i type on the keyboard and ittttttt is slllllllllloooooowwwww aaaaaand rrrrreeepeeeaaaats the characters when you type.

Hope it helps
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Raul^:
That's strange, because I couldn't play SD files , but HD worked fine on wifi. After playing few clips I clicked on HD again to turn it off and SD clips played too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
@ arrr

Hey man. I was doing a lots of testing on frx04. I even when back to frx02, and frx03. And the only thing that change is the framework res. You know for the hdpi and fonts. Don't quote me on thins. But I try frx02 and the same thing happened that bug, then I try blaze build nothing no bug.

It could be a problem with hdpi, I know with hdpi the build looks like hd. When the phone boot into android it try to apply the framework res. Thats why when the phone go sleep and we wake the phone become very slow and laggy, because it trying to apply the fonts and background in hdpi.

I was trying to boot with out the hdpi but not luck, bootloop

Stin should check this out. But I could be wrong

Thanks

FROYO X/SPRINT TOUCH PRO 2/RHOD
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ha, caught this on PPCG first. Responded to you there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] bloodlustv6:
ill check for that option... i cant even play a video thru the browser

no i havent tried it could u provide the link to it?

im using wifi

i downloaded a video with a youtube downloader to the SD but the video still didnt play only sound i get

ill continue messing with it and see

Rhod100_uk by the way
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
Just press the top right corner of the playback (where the HQ symbol is) and it will toggle between HQ and SD.

And yeah, on the camera kernel both SD and HQ work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SoorenaAA:
Hey guys I just installed BLAZN from scratch on my Tilt 2 and the problem is that when it boots up it goes straight to a browser and asks me to update LauncherPro. The thing is I have no internet connection on the phone and I can't access anything on the phone but that browser screen at this point. Does anyone know how I can fix this issue?

Thanks ahead of time!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
BLAZN is woefully out of date at this point, and there's really not much reason anyone should be using it. I recommend FRX04 or another current build.