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[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dsixda:
As a start, I would read that thread I just linked above. Once you can dump the contents inside the system.img and then combine it with the boot.img to build an update.zip, then you are already halfway there - that's actually fairly easy. But knowing how to add custom kernels to the update.zip, making the custom ROM rooted, etc. are all stuff that I'm still working on. There's supposed to be a lot of info in the Dream/Magic forums, so I'll keep reading.

Android is still fairly new and very few people know how to use Linux, thus there's less support and less interest in wanting to cook for one's own Android device.

BTW, that thread I linked above is also found here.. Doh!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=551711
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] naivemonarch:
Thanks for the link, a good read.

Anyone know what the process is for using a custom kernel? There are a few things I'l like to enable that aren't in the HTC kernel (like FUSE).
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dsixda:
If I eventually manage to find out I will post it here. My most important concern is making a rooted ROM from those shipped ROMs, as some people have been doing here.
[Nexus One General] homerrulez:
I have a rooted nexus one with stock rom. Never did anything else but the root.

I have been trying to use the manual update method and always got an error 7 installation aborted message

Now that I can receive the OTA update, I get up to the point where it shows the arrow and the android guy with the box then seconds later it shows the android guy with the exclamation point. It stays on that screen forever. I waited several times the past 2 days for over an hour plus.

I've tried a wipe of the phone and update via manual/ota and that didnt work.

I wiped the sd card, that didnt work.

I cleared storage and hard reset, that didnt work.

WTF am I doing wrong? Im using the phone on ATT and paid over $600 for the phone and now it wont update. Where do I go from here? Am I dead in the water and stuck with a phone that cant be updated. This has got to be the most rediculous issue around. I cant believe it and yet its happening.
[Nexus One General] duncan888:
why dont you flash it with one of the custom roms which has the update included.
[Nexus One General] homerrulez:
dont know how to. seems to complicated. I only rooted so that I can use certain programs but a custom rom sound like trouble to me.

I'd rather just use stock rom and update. What is it everyone else with a rooted stock rom phone can be okay and update but I cant? WTF is up with that. What makes my phone not update?

How stupid is it that all i want to do is update my phone and I cant even do that. This phone has its flaws but if I cant even update it then whats the point of having an android phone. Somethings wrong here and it cant be Im the only one with this issues.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
That's part of the risk you take with unlocking the bootloader... it's not Google's fault man.

That being said, check out some of the threads in the Development section...just sounds like you need to do some research and flash the update the same way others with unlocked bootloaders have to.
[Nexus One General] Volker1:
OTA works only on unrooted phones. Head over to modaco to download the ERE27 update.zip. Its definitely worth the update!
[Nexus One General] homerrulez:
tried and failed. Ended up reselling the phone off for $475.

Just wanted to point out that while this is certainly a good overall phone, I wont be buying it again. Im going to wait it out for another android phone.

Certainly fell way short of my expectation. The sound quality on the phone was bad, the video recording was okay and the failed apps shutting down was a bummer.

Im still waiting for a phone to come out thats actually good enough to warrant another $600 price tag.

we'll just have to wait and see. For now Im going to get a simple phone to save up some cash.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Wow... I've never had the problems with sound quality. Video recording is MORE than adequate for a high-end mobile phone, and "failed apps" is a problem to take up with developers... I've never had a failed Google app, even the Launcher FC that some people have experienced.

It sounds like what really happened here is that you couldn't figure your phone out, so now you're telling yourself whatever you can to make yourself feel better about selling it off. I don't understand why you're the only person who couldn't update his phone here. I hear they're selling for over $600 on eBay, so you probably should have set a higher reserve. Good luck finding another phone of this caliber man....
[HD2 General] flunkyou2:
more rumors/info here.
[HD2 General] MadBastard:
.....indeed
[HD2 General] altec1000:
Unfortunately if this is true. The only positive will be the zune lookalike and probably no more hangovers.

The rest looks just like Iphone. Not third parties applications without marketplace. I think WM6.6 will be more popular. And porbably Android. Steve Balmer did it again.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
if it does turn out to be true, (paused in backgroud, service based app install etc) then i for one will be sticking to 6.5.x. Seems like too much of a copy of how apple works, and thats the very reason why i hate apple!
[HD2 General] Swarvey:
Sounds to me like WinMo 7 defeats the purpose of using WinMo all together. I too will stick with 6.5.x if this is the way things are going.
[HD2 General] alexsql:
And all the profits from WM7 will go to Apple too

I am surprised that WM community falls so easily for the rumors spread by I WONDER WHO.
[HD2 General] balane:
Serious, how does unsubstantiated speculation help anybody?
[HD2 General] tfouto:
i really hope this is just nonsense speculation, because if its not, i will stick with WM6.5 on my HD2 for a long time. And when i need to buy a new phone it will be a Android one.
[HD2 General] xLAMBIEx:
Lets hope the smart people here on xda will find ways around these things.
[HD2 General] liamR:
No way that this is real. It doesn't make any sense, it will be the last nail in WM coffin...

Maybe these (rumors) features are for the "Media WM7" version and the "Business WM7" version will be like WM6.5.x...
[HD2 General] crazyman1:
I can't really see them doing such a U turn on Windows.....but then again Microsoft copy the competition to crush them......that does sound familiar
[HD2 General] lude219:
Grow a brain, guys. This is WinMo's bread and butter for the upcoming generation and could very well be the nail in the coffin if MS fails. First of all, no multitasking? No flash? LOL. They've overcome that already with 6.1. People here will buy anything with RUMOR and SPECULATION slap onto it.:rolleyes:
[HD2 General] d3l1:
yes for now its just a rumor so lets hope ms doesnt become like apple otherwise hello android
[HD2 General] gabbs:
lol..they did this for windows 7 also..
[HD2 General] Timothye:
i'll be in the q right behind you ..
[HD2 General] spiderhider:
the rumour machine strikes again. WM7 could be anything. we just don't know anything about it yet.
[HD2 General] d3l1:
sorry for ot: no idea what you are talking about, win7 is nothing like osx
[HD2 General] TrYde:
Yeah for french media to spread this rumor :(
[HD2 General] spastik:
This simply can't be true. Not even MS are that dumb.
[HD2 General] equalness:
If it is so , then it will be the end of WinMo for me :( , What are they thinking :confused:
[HD2 General] Volw:
I think, before posting, people should be forced to read this:

Rumor

Main Entry: ru·mor

Pronunciation: \ˈrü-mər\

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English rumour, from Anglo-French, from Latin rumor clamor, gossip; akin to Old English rēon to lament, Sanskrit rauti he roars

Date: 14th century

1 : talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source

2 : a statement or report current without known authority for its truth
[HD2 General] equalness:
Kind of you ! I hope its a rumor then ;)
[HD2 General] Archer:
Even if it's 100% correct, it is a rumor until an official announcement is made. We've got a week to go, and I guarantee that there'll be more rumors before then.
[HD2 General] flunkyou2:
made a few changes to original post YES PEOPLE THIS IS A RUMOR

:)
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
Nice

-The User Interface is based upon codename “METRO”. It will be very similar to the Zune HD User Interface with a complete revamp of the “Start” screen. The UI is “Very Clean”, “Soulful” and “Alive”

-Marketplace will now support “try before you buy” as well as an API

-Microsoft is confident that devices will be ready by September 2010

-Full Zune Integration

-Full XBOX Gaming Integration (Gamer tag, achievements, friends, avatars, merchandising, etc)

-Full support for social networking

F*cked up! ffs

- No Multi-Task support. Applications will “Pause” when in the background, however will support notifications via push notifications.

-Unfortunately there will be no Flash support at the get go as there was not enough time to implement these features.

-Windows Phone 7 will only support application installation through service based delivery. (i.e Marketplace). Application installation via storage card will not be possible.

-No NETCF backwards compatibility. This means the original rumor of no backward compatibility for applications holds to be true. That being said, there are high hopes of porting the NetCF to the newer platform easily.

-Windows Mobile Device Center will no longer be used. Zune software to take over syncing via PC.

-OEM Interfaces will not be allowed to run on the device. Say goodbye to Sense UI / SPB Mobile Shell / Point UI / Infinity, etc, etc (NOTE: I heard it will be possible next year, still suxx)

The disadvantage are to big imo :/, if it is true!
[HD2 General] arxx:
1. I really hope that MS gets the phone totally userfriendly, even if that means no multitasking, installation from other sources than Markedplace...

Because, most users want it easy, just look at iPhone.

So, if Microsoft gets this user friendly, gets the Marketplace to be what it should, then maybe the great masses will join in. And if they do, we will maybe see new great games and apps come every day from EA and so on..

2. xda-developers will continue the great work. WM7 will be hacked, and we will enjoy multitasking, installation from any source and enjoy every little thing we do today. we nerds.

1 + 2 = We have what we have today, in addition a new era of games and apps to our beloved phones.
[HD2 General] l7777:
The rumor wouldn't be that surprising and I also don't think it would be that bad. Remember, we're the minority. The average joe buying a cell phone doesn't care that his phone can multitask. If the application simply remembers where it was or "pauses" like they say, it will be sufficient. I mean how often to we really need an application to run in the background? IM is nearly the only thing and how many people actually run an IM client on their phones? I was thinking to myself that I have nothing that needs to run in the background. Everything I do can be suspended and then resume activity when I switch back to it. Web browsing, Remote Desktop, etc... I'm sure there will be "services" that can run in the background and take care of most of our perceived multitasking needs. WM7 sounds like it's geared more toward people who just want their phone to make calls, play music, and be able to do a little bit more. So yes, in a way they are going more iPhone, but that's what sells. The previous WM version have been great for us tinkerers, but it's terrible for non-technical people. I would have a hard time recommending a current WM based phone to most of my family members as they wouldn't accept the quirks.

With all that said, even if WM7 does have all those restrictions, it will still be ripped apart and massaged to do what we want by the development community here and elsewhere.
[HD2 General] flunkyou2:
heres some more rumors :)

Microsoft will drop much of the business side of WM in favor of the consumer side. The traditional business offerings like Office / Exchange functionality will of course still be supported, but the focus will be shifted to gaming and multimedia. The Xbox and Zune brands will be represented, the Zune player willl be included and it will be possible to wirelessly exchange data, multimedia, and games with the Xbox 360.

The first batch of phones that will be released will have pretty much the same chip specs, and HTC, Samsung, LG and SE will be the ones to deliver this first batch of phones. In this first batch (September 2010), the OEMs are apparently not allowed to make big changes, they all have to use the same interface.

This means, no custom UI like Sense, no Opera Mobile either. Instead the default WM UI will be used and a new PocketIE based on IE7, but with some functionality from IE8.

The second batch (end of 2010) will be allowed to have small changes, but likely only theme-based and addition of some custom application.

Only at the third batch (early 2011) will the OEMs be allowed to add their own interfaces, like Sense, Panels, TouchWiz and S-Class. (ouch third batch_!)

The official announcements of the WM7 phones are not expected to occur more than a few weeks before actual release of the OS, [CF: so we probably won't see official (unleaked) specs and such before the end of July (based on the September release date)].

As hardware goes they say mostly the same as the chassis 1 specs. 1 Ghz+ CPU, Open GL ES 2.0, 800×480+, 3.5"+, 384mb+ (possibly 512+).

According to those we have seen the WM7 interface, it is nothing revolutionary. It should have standard multi-touch support and supports only capacitive. The interface is said to be a hybrid of iPhone / Android / Zune HD elements.

Apparently those that have used WM7 builds differ in opinion about the software. Some state it is much faster than for example the 3GS, while others mention apps are slow to start and experiencing ‘hickups’.

Apps-wise, old applications will in principle not be compatible with Windows Mobile 7, throwing away many thousands of apps that are currently available. It may be compatibility for old apps will be emulated, but this is not clear yet. How exactly this will work will likely be explained at MIX 2010 in March.

It certainly seems like only .NET apps will be supported [CF: ugh!], however it is not clear if the Compact Framework will be a part of that .NET support.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Flunkyou2, do you have a source you could cite for this?
[HD2 General] flunkyou2:
http://tweakers.net/reviews/1527/1/preview-windows-mobile-7-inleiding.html
[HD2 General] aceo07:
I think everybody (all the sites) is just jumping on the rumor bandwagon and probably rewording each other. It's not that much longer until there's some official word about it.
[HD2 General] flunkyou2:
fingers crossed we will hear somthink this week or next!
[HD2 General] shu8i:
how cool would it be if wm7 would be something like this?

http://www.istartedsomething.com/20100208/location-based-operating-system-concept-locus-os/
[HD2 General] flunkyou2:
WOW i want it lol.... fingers crossed eh? i cant wait till the weekend!
[HD2 General] Nighthawk:
As we all know, Microsoft has had multiple versions of the mobile software. All this is a specific 'phone' designed to run media apps (video, audio etc.). No where does it say that it is the 'only' version of Windows Mobile 7.

I suspect that we will see several versions of WM7.
[HD2 General] shu8i:
does someone know if there will be a beta of wm7 available? and if yes when?
[HD2 General] freyberry:
No--------
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
No, really, that's why I didnt bought an Iphone! Multi-tasking is a must and the option that I can install everything that I want is an must! that means, no music anymore from an other location then market-place?! I hope i'm wrong but those were the things that stopped me to buy an Iphone :(
[HD2 General] flunkyou2:
first page updated With none rumor news!
[HD2 General] eskasi:
If this is the future of WM... then I will be going down the Android road for sure..... Its just rumors but if they do this, it seems they are burning down the WM house in hopes of chasing the Iphone... THAT will never work... They will ALWAYS play 2nd fiddle to the Iphone.... The Iphone is a GREAT phone for what it does... gaming and multimedia. Its not what I am after. I predict the Google guys are eargerly waiting for MS to shoot themselves in the foot this evening...
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I agree somewhat that in most cases multitasking isn't needed, but often it is a must have. IM, downloading files, satnav working during a call come to mind. On the other hand, you certainly don't want games or videos not pausing while you are in a call or checking a new message. The way it currently works is just fine in this respect.

I'm also sure that this limitation will be possible to overcome. There is one aspect of multitasking though that goes beyond running apps in background, and that is switching between active apps. Unfortunately, nobody has been able to make it right so far, and there is nothing to copy from the iPhone. I was hoping for a native solution...
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Palm Pre??
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I haven't seen a Palm Pre in my life and probably won't, but if the ProSwitcher application for the iPhone is a real clone, then I'd say there are too many movements you have to make to switch apps - it looks cool but is hardly convenient. Even that is better than nothing (WM default "solution") or lame HTC Xperia menus. The best approach I've seen is Showcase (an app I found here on xda), but it's buggy and is abandoned by the developer.
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
15 of feb!
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Task Facade is the perfect concept, IMO. But like Showcase, it isn't developed anymore.

A native implementation that works like TaskFacade and shows live previews like the Palm Pre, that would be perfect.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
True, but no multitasking means no native solution.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] cmd77:
Hello,

I have wm6 CE OS 5.2.1938 Build 18538.0.7.0 PV from pdaviet, radio version 1.13 and I have a radio issue: I cannot start wifi and BT in the same time from connection manager. If I want to start wi-fi for example - I have to start it from wlan settings/turn on wlan. If then I go in manager to start BT, it won't start, only shows the round thing for waiting but notthing happens, the BT doesn't start.

If I want to start BT, I have to tap BT in manager and when I see the round thing for waiting, I give a restart and it restarts with BT on and the BT works but than there is no way to start wifi.

Any ideeas? This is quite anoing....pls help

Thanks
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Chef_Tony:
the issue with switching on wi-fi is widely known and happens to all of us.

the bluetooth issue is something else.

maybe you messed something up. you could try a hard reset. in case, that problem first appeared after you flashed the pdaviet rom, you could try another rom and/or radio rom from this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=630416
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] cmd77:
radio

After some searching I saw that BT is linked with run_bttray process wich I dont find in start up, neither in windows dirrectory. My radio version is 1.13 on wm6. Where should I check to see if bttray is present? How can I start it? Can you provide an aplication wich I can run to control BT?

Thanks for your help
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] egzthunder1:
Switch to a newer rom. I believe that this BT issue was present in older versions of WM.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] j_constantine:
same problem

hi!

i have the same problem.

But I know that it's software related.

People always tell me, they can't hear me well, and that parts of words are suppressed.

I tried with AGC ON and OFF and tried the impact on the voice recorder.

The voice recorder is influenced by the settings and I could hear a clearly distinguishable difference.

Loud and clear record with AGC on. Damp, attenuated record with AGC off.

The problem is, that the AGC settings seem not to influence the microphone level of the phone-calls.

Is there a solution?

I use WM 6,5,21888 German made by D-Two
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Kapiza:
Hi @ll.

I wanted to know if there's a way to stop the animation in the weather tab.not home tab

Version applying tó is sense 2.5.2011.

Thanks in advance

Greetz kapiza
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] pedram_2000:
Stop Weather

yes

with any registry editor go to :

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]

then change the "Home.WallpaperMode" value to "2"

enjoy !
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] tsalta:
Can i stop the Animation in my Weather tab ALSO? I think the Animation is BEAUTY but the Animation slow the Touch Sense Alot.

Im with Manila 2.1.19.20
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] pedram_2000:
soory my friend .. I dont know how to stop that in weather page
[HD2 General] .::EmreE::.:
Hello!

I want to HSPL my phone but where will i find the original ROM if something happens?

I use 1.61 ROM ..
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
go see the "official roms" sticky in the rom development section. if you don't see it straight away keep looking, some links are buried in later posts.
[Touch CDMA General] lavalyn:
How do I change the resolution from 320x240 or the lcd.density on the vogue from nand boot? There's no default.txt anywhere to tweak these.
[Touch CDMA General] jnadke:
For the resolution:

Flash a different NAND image (put image in base directory of SDCard as voguimg.nbh and hold volup/voldown --not sure -- when booting up)

For the density:

It's in /system/build.prop (edit the file as a text file)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Macrophage001:
Is it possible to flash a ROM via the Android SDK or Recovery Console?
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
Made my Nexus run iPhone OS last night.... :) Sweet
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Interesting...
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
You are kidding me, right?
[Nexus One General] bockjacob:
Or you just have a screenshot on there.
[Nexus One General] Domskibus:
...not! Where is the instruction, more sreenshots, downloadlinks???

However: It looks interesting:D but i dont think so, that you've manged it "last night".
[Nexus One General] iVisionX01:
I can tell by the pixels.
[Nexus One General] TonyHoyle:
Come on guys.. you really believe someone ported an OS to a new platform 'last night' expecially when that OS has no source code available and is only available for a very specific hardware configuration - even writing and integrating the drivers woud be a nightmare.

I could just about believe someone porting WinMo and that would be a major undertaking (unless one of the HTC phones has sufficiently similar hardware).

Far easier to photoshop a picture of an iphone on top of an N1.
[Nexus One General] JoshHart:
Look, I ran 1.6 on mine, lol, definitely a screenshot.
[Nexus One General] archboy69:
Why would I care or for the fact even want the iPhone OS running on my Android phone. The reason I got an Android is that I wanted an Android. Blah.

If you wanted an iPhone then go get one.
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
Got some newbies and some senior members here :) hahahaha
[Nexus One General] r8zer:
this is not iphone OS its a FAKE!!!, more than likely it is an app like on the windows mobile forum, for an iphone look, so hate people trying to BS everyone!!
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
I hope you're kidding...
[Nexus One General] NexVision:
Y u would even want to tarnish the phone by faking that is beyond me.
[Nexus One General] cadavg:
The picture doesn't even look photoshopped. It looks paintshopped! For anyone that's convinced this is real please take a look at the screen edges. The iPhone screen is smaller and this guy can't figure out how to stretch the image to the fit the bezel. Also his hand has no pixelation but the screen does? Funny funny... so funny. If you really are that lazy maybe you should get an iPhone.
[Nexus One General] DarkLord7854:
It's called a joke, get with the program. :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] oklahomatulsa:
I would have believed you if you said..."N900..":cool: