yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] drblow:
OK, the RC5 seems to have fixed the sms issue! Yay!

It is still quite slow and unresponsive for me though. After installation and hard reset, things like editing calendar appts takes time to open between screens. Once I installed the dusk theme it got worse.

This could be just me ... I have a penchant for eye candy, and for a daily use ROM I need to have some nice stuff to look at. Once I install a few things to jazz it up a bit things get pretty slow.

But I understand that your ROM is designed to be lightweight and you don't want to add things on the base. Still, I'm willing to try anything - maybe if you could fix up the sms issue on the sense 2.1 rom it might allow for more user-added eye candy without so much effect on the responsiveness?

:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
lol, it's a trade off. to give free Ram on a 6.5.x build i've had to reduce the pagepool. it's set at 8MB. yes there will ba a lag. but i felt it's worth it for the ram.

enjoy
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benny0060:
chrisd1a1,

Having downloaded and flashed your Sense 2.5 RC5a ROM. Thanks for your work. Here is one question about HTC Sense. Does that mean each time before I reboot my phone, I should diable Sense in home settings? If not, the Sense cannot start? Any solution?

Cheers Ben
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
Hi Ben please read the following taken from the first and second post of the thread they answer your questions (before and after you edited your post.)

the answer is yup. for some reason sense remains stable when running but won't start on first boot following soft reset.

i'm working on it:)

regards

Chris
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benny0060:
Hi, Chris. Thanks for your reply. I edited my post because I have read these posts on 1st and 2nd pages. Sense was really fixed. But I found that when the phone is out of battery and shut down automatically, I should 'change new battery, turn on, disable Sense, restart, and finally enable Sense'. Is that the quickest way to enable HTC Sense in that situation? Thanks Ben:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stevesuk:
Hi Chris,

Just wanted to ask about Internet Sharing.

Did you remove this because it uses a lot of memory when included?

I work from home, and tend to use Internet Sharing as an emergency backup when my Virgin Media broadband dies (which is often!).

Had this problem today, and thought it would be OK, because you had included the HTC mobile router thing. But I couldn't get that to work either, so I've had to flash another ROM in the meantime.

Is it just a couple of files that I would need to put back in the Windows directory?

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
hi steveuk, i removed it when i was cutting down the rom base. as far as i know a cab file is available but as it's not something i use it's not something i'd prioritise.

sorry i can't help you more at this point. if i can add it back without affecting the ram i will consider it in a new build
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] microang:
Windows Lock Screen

I am quite interested in your ROM but could you please release a version with the NEW Windows Mobile 6.5 Lock Screen as on my current ROM which I would like to replace with yours I use the lock screen quite often for the mail & text notifications and I also have a pin number and like the new screen for this too.

So please release a version with the lock screen or a cab file please as your ROM is very good and this is my only problem!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
hi there, as advised in post 1 this has been deliberately remoced. im sorry but it eats ram. im not considering adding rhis back.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
RC6 uploaded

RC6 now up and on the first post.

no major changes but i've been working on making sense a lot more memory stable. been running for 5 days without an out of memory warning or 'sense crash'

sms should be working fine (hope i didn't miss a package again, i don't use it very often so it's not something i spot very often)

i'm taking a pause on tweaking this build as i'm looking at the new sense 2012 ports as a comparison. the next release nay be the 2012 build if it's stable and more 'memory friendly' i'll consider once i've had time to test.

i'd appreciate feedback and comments

regards

Chris
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fferna30:
Hi Chrisd, I appreciate a lot your Sense 2.1 Rom, fast and soft. I tried again today, but sms still doesn't work.

Thank for your good job.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
hi there, sorry about that. i've not updated the sense 2.1 rom in a while, as i don't use it i've not looked at it since the last update and i've been working on the 2.5 rom.

i'll look at updateing this as soon as possible

regards

Chris
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wasddgdsg:
RC6 Users Feedback

Hi Chris,

first of all: Thanx for that great rom!

Best of all 6.5.3 and s2.5 roms ever.

I am using RC 6 for 2 days now and want to give U some feedback:

-sms bug: reply to sms from sense work fine, but not possible to compose to a new one ('new' button leads to WinMo.

In WinMo (All Messages) it's not possible to send anything. Send -Button will flash when pressed, bit no effect.

only possible workaround: add a person to fav, compose via fav-tab.... not really handy!

- also i'd need a config editor (i like 'Advanced Configuration Tool 3.3' very much), don't know how to use 'PHM Reg Editor', to complicated for me.

I'd like to enable GPS-Photo and to change folder in which photos will be stored and some other changes...

2 more small things:

- Home screen: Weather anim of homescreen also runs when viewing the lower (scroll down) part of home screen

-audio tab: there s a small icon (of a CD) on the top-left, don t know what s that for, but at the moment it s performing a restart of sense ;-)

that's it for the moment, again: thanx a lot for that great ROM!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] microang:
Settings Icon Fix

Hi Chef,

Do you still have the Settings start menu icon fix? Cause I really need it for a ROM I'm cooking. Please upload it as you no longer have it on your post 1.

So if anyone has it please post it as an attaachment.

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
the cab is here,

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5445403&postcount=771

the oem is here

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5445403&postcount=771

regards

Chris
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
Sense 2012 b1 released

2012 b1 released

please read the first post
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stevesuk:
Hi Chris,

I flashed this when I read your Twitter earlier.

Although I can access the standard MS Inbox, I can't actually open any of the messages inside it (with or without Sense running).

I tried another 2012 ROM earlier which had the same issue.

Haven't been able to flash with MTTY yet because I have it on my laptop (not here at the moment).

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
hold fire, i've removed the link, working on a fix
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stevesuk:
Hi Chris, see this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5661338&postcount=116

Fixed it for me.

Edited to add:

"Read" = "\\Windows\read_note.htm"

"Compose" = \\Windows\compose_note.htm"

Then opening and composing email works fine
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
4SHARED link for the corrected visuals is up. many thanks for this fix stevesuk, will add to first post as it does correct the opening issue.

far as i can tell just about everything now works..

spent all day on this now so time for a break and to catch up on facebook.. lol.

ps i'd appreciate feedback on the rom, far as i can seethis is faster and more stable but the RAM is similar to the older builds.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
fix to graphics up

fix to email in post 2
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] omniwolf:
hey, i wanted to try this ROM out for the sense build 2012 stuff, but i couldn't get past the date screen. The phone boots up, it gets to the screen calibration screen, i do that and then it moves onto the screen where you set the timezone, date, and time. i can set the timezone and time fine, but i can't set the date. i figure i can just set that later, so i press the Next button, but nothing happens. the next button highlights, so i know it's registering my press, but it doesn't move on from that screen. a soft or hard reset doesn't help.

thanks anyway :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
have to ask, did you mitty? only reson is that i flashed this twice this morning to see if i could replicate and it's working fine. it does pause for a few seconds following the set pin option but nothing else.

has anyone else had the above issue please?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] cescof:
Same problem here with nediafire version but without mtty.

I'll try with it ..and feedback.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stevesuk:
I also had this problem, but managed to get past the screen after rebooting the phone a couple of times. I think having it connected to the PC via ActiveSync whilst booting did the trick eventually.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
ok, this is strange, i know this works cos i'm running it????

just to check the obvious, everyone is using mitty and then hard reset??

i'm hoping it's not a corrupt zip.

it's a shame as i'm finding it a nice stable bit of software:)

ps, i've modded the reg for the email for the next build so the email fix is built in. i'm not planning to upload though until there is more to add to sense (or unless more bugs are reported in the base, if this happens i'll put up a bugfix build)

so far there are 12 downloads from my 4shared so does the lack of feedback mean everyone else has got this working, or is everyone having the issue?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stevesuk:
Hi Chris,

I didn't use MTTY, because its on my laptop which is currently out of action (desktop here has 64 bit Windows 7, and it belongs to work so I don't want to go messing with it!).

I did however use the bootloader to flash it from internal storage, and before the first boot I cleared the storage memory (volume down, centre button on reset).

It caused me a problem the first time I booted, but the second time (with it plugged in to ActiveSync, it let me through).

One issue I have noticed is that on every single boot now, it can't load Sense. So I have to go through the process of removing it from the home screen, rebooting, and then readding. Never had that issue before, even though I know some have. Have you been seeing that on this release? If not, perhaps thats a sympton of not using MTTY.

Like you say, once you get it running, it works really well. I think this new build was perhaps more designed for running on differing screen sizes. Didn't it come from some device like the HD Mini?

Steve.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stevesuk:
Hi Chris,

Another minor thing I noticed is that message composing window in the Twitter client is too big for the screen (the send/post button is missing, presumably off the bottom of the screen somewhere).

However, I see you have been posting to Twitter from HTC Peep this morning, so perhaps its another sympton of not using mtty! I'm going to fix my laptop later and try.

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
lol, does yours look like the attached (screenie from mine)??

i guess if not it's a classic of why either flashing a stock rom or mitty is a good idea
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stevesuk:
No, I don't have any buttons... the area for entering text just extends off the screen.

Going to fix my laptop :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
have fun, let me know how it goes when you have updated.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stevesuk:
OK, have done the usual mtty procedure that I follow from this post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4194860&postcount=3

On the first boot, I had the issue where you can't move past the date/time screen (I had pushed on the date widget to change the date, which didn't work, and then I couldn't press "Next").

Second boot, I connected it to my laptop and ignored both the date/time widgets, and just clicked on "Next". This time it let me past and started the customisation process.

I'm not sure whether its because I had ActiveSync connected the second time, or simply because I ignored both the date and time widgets.

Haven't noticed anything else different. Twitter is now working, but I had been fiddling with the registry before and wonder if I accidentally broke something :)

Sense still refuses to start after each soft reset. Any idea whats causing that? Never had that issue before.

Anyway, small problems aside - Manilla 2012 VGA seems much smoother than the previous builds :)

ps. Do you use some way of backing up all your personal settings between flashing each new ROM? Just curious because each time I flash a new ROM, I have to tell it my Twitter password, set up my Gmail, configure Exchange Server ActiveSync, enter in my Facebook credentials etc. Just wondered if there was some kind of Manilla Backup tool?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
thanks for the reply Steve, i think i now know why people have been having issues and i've not...

i ALWAYS skip the date/time/pin setup as i use device centre to sync once it's booted. this sets everthing anyway...

as for the issue over sense on soft reset, for some reason it takes A LOT of system resource to boot. it's an issue i've not been able to fix. (on the plus side though i've not had to soft reset in 48 hours so i don't see this as major)

i'll add this to the first post for peoples ref.

cheers

ps as for backing up.. er. no. (you can imagine how much of a pain this is when i'm testing new roms...)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Brav0:
I'm still wondering if WM6.5.3 is worth it over WM6.5. Do the softbuttons at the bottom really make a big difference?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
lol, it's personal choice over the bottom bar, personally i find it 'more pleasant' to use.

i've got the ram on this similar to 6.5 standard, my aim is to make a day to day usable 6.5.x with sense and i'm happy in general thats what im close to. yes there are a few bugs still i've got to work from the base, but if you follow post one and 2 you can't go too far wrong.

the main difference you will find is the 'x' not closing apps. one of those things though;)

nearly 500 downloads of the different builds and only a few feed back

i'd appreciate feedback on how you find the rom and any bugs, i can't fix em if i don't know about em..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
feedback please!!!!!!!!!!!

folks, i've had nearly 50 downloads of sense 2012 b1

and only a few have fed back!!!!

please, i can only improve this with help from you guys!!!

if you don't tell me it's broke i can't fix it!!!

(yes i know about the first/second boot issues, and i've fixed the email for the next build. i'll only release once i can fix any other issues!!! you can't tell me everything else is working fine)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Brav0:
I see what you mean, I'll give it a whirl.

I'm on it! Flashing now! :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Brav0:
From playing around with it for a while, I haven't found any problems with it. But I don't know if its just me, but the start icon + bar and the text at the bottom just look...bad. It looks so unprofessional! :( But the ROM so far is great!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
lol, as i said, it's personal choice, i keep considering removing the theme to save a bit of space. may try it in the next build..

once you are past the first boot i think just about everything is working. i am considering adding swype in the next build. but having a few issues with the packages at the mo.

aiming to put up a bugfix rom in the next few days all being well. fingers crossed.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] fferna30:
Chris, how've you been?

I've tried 3 times HTC 2.1. No one with sms working. I'd appreciate a lot if you could fix that. Your rom looks great! I want try it, but a can't w/out sms. Thanks a lot!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] salim1001:
In this sense 2012 ....does the landscape mode work ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
hi there, sorry about the delay, i've been focusing on the sense2.5 roms. i'll put a fix up for the 2.1 as soon as i can.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
please note post 1. i removed the rotation to save ram. it's not something i use and it hammers the device memory.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
ok i've put a fix in but i've not had time to test it.

fshared link below. i'd be grateful if you would give it a go and let me know if it works. i'll then add to the first post

Sense 2.1 rc3

http://www.4shared.com/file/226991041/5a2e1b9f/sense_21rc3.html
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] thetiger1401:
Hello,

Already is a exellent rom !!!!

however, I have got two issue :

1- in contacts for facebook link = crash to manila

2- impossible to put a bottom screen in home manila
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
hi there, one of the things i checked was the facebook linking, i use it all the time and it works fine. including the link to m.facebook.com when you touch the status. can you clarify exactly what the issue is?

can anyone else confirm an issue with the FB link?

can you please clarify exactly what you mean by the second point please?

regards

Chris
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
Sense 2012 rc1 released

chrisd1a1 sense 2012 RC1 released

links on first post

changelog:

email reg issues fixed, no need to add the fix mannually.

first boot welcome changed - resolves the crash when you set the date/time etc by removing the option.

you still need to soft reset following the connection setup (this is annoying me but not worked out how to fix)

sense boot issues still there (think this is down to the RAM, doubt it's fixable but i don't view this as an issue)

very stable and memory friendly.

enjoy and please feedback any issues
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] thetiger1401:
When I include the link in m.facebook.com, the soft manila disappears immediatly. Can you explain to me what is the problem and what is the solution to keep manila on ?

For the second point : I can't put a wallpaper on the tabs of sense.

I would to know the procedure.

Thx
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
are you using opera or IE6 to try to link to FB? i use opera and no issues. if anyone alse is having issues i may be able to trace but if i can't duplicate i cant fix it

as for the wallpaper. TBH i've not looked at it. try the new release and i'll look into this.

regards

Chris
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] thetiger1401:
Thx very much

Dl the rom .............
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] thetiger1401:
So it's good but I have got a issue :

I can't put a wallpaper in tab's home :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
i suspect this is down to the htc album. i'll look into this when i can.

unless i can fix the album issue i#'m taking a break from building a new release as i'm having a play with the ereader tab. (i like so far) as this is wvga i'm not planning on releasing this unless demand is high.

will still be posting, just not releasing
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stevesuk:
Hi Chris,

Out of interest, if you install something which delays the startup of Windows Mobile, the problems with Sense not starting are cured.

I also run Android on my phone, and I use Yozgatg's Gen.Y DualBOOT app (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=623792) so I can choose whether to boot Android from the internal storage memory, or Windows mobile.

This app loads before most of Windows Mobile, and therefore causes a delay before Sense starts. So I wonder if there's something else you could stick there (like perhaps run Mortscript with a script that just waits/delays booting by 5 seconds?). Or you could just "cook in" Gen.Y DualBOOT... you don't have to be using Android for it to work, the default action is for it to "autoboot" Windows Mobile (which it does after a 5 second delay).

Also, I noticed a couple of minor things with fonts (on some screens in Sense, it looked like the wrong font was being used, causing sizing issues). I solved this by copying these files to the \Windows\ directory:

- HelveticaNeue LT 35 Thin.ttf

- HelveticaNeue LT 55 Roman.ttf

- HelveticaNeueOTS.ttf

Which I found in another Sense ROM. Which cured the problem completely (also seems to slightly improve the layout of the Twitter tab, unless it was a fluke).

Keep up the good work!

Cheers,

Steve.

ps. ereader tab looks interesting. Although I'm spending more time booting to Android these days, just a shame battery life is pretty poor (about 20 hours from a full charge), and that the camera isn't working yet.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
steve, can you upload the files? i'll give them a go.

the ereader tab is brill i love it. the bad news is it EATS ram and so freezes the phone (not forgetting the size issue.) once it's ported i'll give it a go.

i've also cooked in Ameba for the next version. no more closing app with the 'x' issues :)

i've also had a play with the HD mini lockscreen.. i'd consider adding in a build even though i don't use myself..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stevesuk:
Hi Chris,

See attached.

Definitely made a difference when I copied them in to the Windows folder and rebooted. Some examples: on Yozgatg's Android DualBoot app, there were some layout issues. On the Sense weather screen, the time of last update was cropped, etc.

So I think Sense uses these fonts, and perhaps other people have written apps that assume they are installed too.

Cheers,

Steve.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
you are correct about these. many thanks, i'll include them in the next build:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dabe:
Hey Chris, just wanted to feedback on your rom.

I've gone through 5 differnet 6.5.x roms over the past couple of days and I've finally settled on your one its fast, feature rich and seems to be the less buggy of all them out there for day-to-day use.

Won't bother repeating what others have report (i.e. sense not loading sometimes, homescreen background).

things I did notice nothing major... Coreplayer is installed in to \windows\player.exe and the myPlayer config is set for \program files\core player\player.exe (took me a while to find the exe).

Did have a question, the favourites in IE6 seem to be screwed up and not working, when clicking favourites it takes you to a file explorer window), the buttons along the bottom aren't what should be in the latest version (should be, back, fav, keyboard, menu, close) I prefer IE6 over opera you see, haven't used Opera 10 yet to might be a mute point...

overall tho, top job man! thank you so much!

also thanks to steveuk for the fonts for the htc menu's
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] chrisd1a1:
2012 RC2 released big changes!!!

chrisd1a1 Sense 2012 RC2 on first post

Ameba added!!!! 'X' now closes apps - improves RAM stability

opera mini 5 added (not default, just because i like it)

font's fixed (thanks to steveuk) twwitter and other now display properly

the only remaining bug that's really 'bugging' me is the wallpaper (but as i don't use it, it's not a biggie. sorry to those who do)

enjoy:)

Chris