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[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
I'm addicted to this program already and love it. The only problem is that this is the only app that will make pocket amiga emulator work on the hd2 (good), but the buttons are so large and numerous that it also makes the emulator unusable (ouch). Is there a way to make only 2 bottoms appear at the bottom of the screen? This would make my day for the next week!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hm, I hardcoded the gamepad layout to get best multitouch performance. So you only need 2 buttons? You don't need arrow keys? Can you post a short mockup to visualize your thoughts?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
You did a fantastic job with the multitouch performance. The attachment is the mockup you asked about. In this emulator it uses 640x480 in gapi, so the bottom 160 pixels are wasted space, which is perfect space for a 2 button or 3 button mouse. Maybe some emulators put the image in the middle, which wastes the bottom+top 80 pixels, so maybe a "Rotate" button would be good too. There are so many great old mouse-only games for different emulators, and I think your app is the only way to play any of them using the hd2, since HTC disabled the buttons from being tweaked, plus using the buttons as mouse-buttons will destroy them fast I think.

Great program you've done! I've already assigned the 14 different gestures to different apps (instant 'Tellme' voice search is cool!)

( mockup is Pocket Ultimate Amiga Emulator playing ' Powermonger ' from 1990 - my favorite game of all time behind 'Ultima V'. )
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
After proofreading my above post I now realize that LMT v0.8 is my favorite app on my hd2! Sure I use android a lot, but I'm an emulator lover and gamer too. There are SO MANY GAMES that require me to pull the battery on my hd2 to get back to the homescreen, BUT NOT ANY MORE... I just use a gesture now to close all apps or foreground app with LMT and like magic I am back on the home screen. This apps ability to 'stay on top' of gapi games is pretty powerful stuff if you think about it.

Awesome app and loving it more and more everyday.

TIP: for those of us who don't fully use Android now, get this app, and get "TellMe" app for the samsung intrepid, install Tellme, than create a shortcut to the tellmelauncherexpert.exe file that is in /program files/tellme/ and then map that to a gesture. What happens is this: you swipe the gesture and a magical transparent "listening" box hovers over any screen you are on and you can do a voice text, or a voice search, or maps, check it out -- quite cool. (I also mapped microsoft voice command to a gesture, because holding the call key down for 5 seconds just isn't satisfying, now it activates in milliseconds...)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
MAME ( PocketCultMame ) works great on HD2 using LMT v0.8

PocketCultMame now works flawlessly using the onscreen controller with this app. Playing some 'Gauntlet II' right now.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi,

I've implemented the "two buttons controller" and refactored the controller code a little bit.

In portrait mode the controller will now switch between (use "R" button):

- portrait, screen not locked

- landscape, screen not locked

- portrait, screen full locked

- landscape, screen full locked

- landscape, two buttons, screen not locked

In landscape mode the controller will now switch between (use "R" button):

- real landscape, screen not locked

- real landscape, screen full locked

Can you please test the new version?

Have fun!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
I would be most honored to test it.... Let me load it up right now. This is fantastic, thanks... Let's check this out.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
Excellent. I ran the Pocket Ultimate Amiga Emulator, activated the controller, and cycled through the rotate options till I got the 2 mouse buttons resting nicely at the bottom of the screen. The buttons worked perfectly after I set them in the emulators options and they did not obscure the screen at all. Because the emulator uses 640x480 the pixels at the bottom of the screen were wasted space before, but now they are buttons I can rest my thumb over and are now useful pixels - they provide control without having to look through my thumb (a touchscreen issue with any app). As a matter of fact 640x480 was 'dissapointing' before, but these bottom buttons make it 'preferred' all of a sudden - heh heh. I will test this with other apps and emulators I can find that can now be run or just run better.

There might be a benefit to a '3 bottom-buttons' or a '4 bottom-buttons' version for other apps I find, but I won't know until I find them, and this 2-button simplicity is really enjoyable for me, so I'll just keep testing.

All I can say is, works perfect so far. I share my experience here so others can have fun: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10715660#post10715660
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
I just noticed the controller remembers the last setting you had it on, when you reactivate it. That's a nice touch. Maybe it did this before and I didn't notice it, but I notice it now, because I don't have to cycle through to get the 2 button controller -- it just pops up. Nice.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
The HTC pinch/zoom preview window 'almost' fits perfectly in between the 2 buttons on the 2button_controller. I'm using my left thumb to operate the zoom box to fly around a zoomed screen and hit the mouse buttons as my right fingers operate the mouse -- it's got a great feel to it for me. For others who might want to have this kind of fun the 2 buttons could be spaced a little farther apart so that they 'straddle' the zoom window.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] NLS:
Pablo that old Amiga emulator works on HD2?

I thought I tried and it didn't...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
It is working great for games at full frame rates so far (no keyboard though) using this LMT v0.8x gamepad/gestures app. Use the 0.8x version from first post of page 74 of this forum.

I share my experience here so others can have fun:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10715660#post10715660
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
MAME ( PocketCultMame ) works great on HD2 using LMT v0.8x

The MAME emulator I've been wishing worked on my hd2 since June 2010 now runs like a champ with this gamepad. I share my experience here so others can have fun: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10715660#post10715660
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
Feature IDEA for LMT

Hi Noname81,

A gesture to "close all open windows + terminate .exe's on your kill-list " might be good, but also might not be worth coding, and I'm not sure if others need it, but for gamers who pull their battery out to get their OS back, and for people who are always pecking at task managers to kill stuff it could be great.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
@pablo71

You should really learn the usefulness of the EDIT button under your posts :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
I agree with you. I try not to ramble on, but, well, I'm still 'trying' not to....
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Lord Meshadieme:
Can i request a QVGA version for Polaris, i know its not multi touch but single gestures will work right.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pablo71:
Loving this application more and more everyday

I got to say this has become my favorite application, and I've gotten a lot of mileage out of it.

If there are any plans for a future version of this app I'd be happy to pay for it and plug it as well. I eagerly look forward to a new version of it too, if there are any planned.

HOW TO DOUBLE THE GESTURES:

Because this uses 'regedits' to control the shortcuts, 2 of my gestures are pointed to 'regfiles' so I now have two modes of operation. This doubles the amount of gestures I can do. The gestures are also tied to mortscripts, so they do different things depending on what application I am in.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
wicked! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tiho5:
more gestures

noname81, I appreciate your work so much and thanks again for it! I want to ask :-) when are you going to add more gestures? I think an L is possible (then you have a mirror L and 2 more rotated Ls). Plus double L again in the 4 possible mirror positions and only with this we end up with 8 more gestures. What about a mirrored delete gesture? There are many more potential candidates. Like double square but made and then this opposite direction of movement (counterclockwise) can be used for other gestures to double their number...

Please, see the picture.

Hope to get you interested!

Thanks again!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, I moved to Android with my HD2 some months ago. So there won't be a new LMT for WinMo. Sorry! But perhaps now it is time to start porting LMT to Android (but only for rooted phones...)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
no surprise there :)

Yet I remember you saying android management of touchscreen was so that it may be virtually impossible to properly port LMT over there.

Anyway this doesn't matter much, because if there won't be a decent spreadsheet application like pocket excel, and a fully working handbase version for android, I'll be keeping WM until my wit's end, and after that I'll switch to Windows Phone.

Playing angry birds is funny, but I mainly need to get some job done with this phone, and in the end android is good just for the glitter.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Yeah, winmo still wins when it comes to office related tasks... i installed the sdk and ndk yesterday and started porting. I found a way to retrieve the ts values lowlevel and the gesture code is working again. When i have again some time left i start implementing the logic and hmi stuff. Still new to Android dev, so it will take a while...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noellenchris:
cool, good luck I really miss LMT!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
I honestly pray that there will be decent excel and database applications on android BEFORE lmt is ported... anyway have fun with the new toy :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hm, then they have to be fast. Lmt is running good on android :-) only hardcoded actions atm and still no configuration gui, but everything else is working as before...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
damn.

Honestly, this hurts, so many nice things about android, and not being able to run it because I wouldn't be able to do my job management properly...

I fear I'll have to update to windows phone :( Silly glittery android users don't deserve to have your lmt :p They don't need to switch back and forth from angry birds to virtual café :mad:

Seriously, congrats for the XP points you're acquiring on android ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] SWEATTAIMI:
this is not maybe ur "favorite question" but can u make a similar to android, i liked this launher, unfortenly i dont run windows phone :/
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, i already ported lmt to android (see my posts above) and I'm using it for 2 month now. For a release i still have to iron out some bugs and implement some GUI features. Problem: I'm a little bit lazy atm... :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rgreat:
Nice. I'm waiting for the release, or at least beta. :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] SWEATTAIMI:
Good job. I will wait for it :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Fyi: I finally ported LMT to Android and released a first alpha version: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1330150. Unfortunately the first version is only for the Evo3D. Please use the new thread for comments now...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] orfeas:
We are after your posts.

So please inform us if a generic android version is out!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
I, for one like it very much. Gestures are much more, how do I say it, error-prone. A big swipe just somewhere on the giant screen of the HD2 is so much more comfortable then to click on a software button (in opera that's two clicks, one for opening the menu and one for pushing the back btn) or one of those tiny hardware buttons.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
it is something wrong, that is draining my battery... i have installed LMT 0.1 & task facade... usually, over nights my battery was loosing about 4-5 %. After installing these 2, last night the battery drains 15 %. Which one is going wrong - task facade or lmt ?:confused:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
Hi, just wondering what rom are you running. I have battery draining problems since I switched to 2.05 based and later 2.07 based LEO roms. I had this problem before installing lmt and taskfacade.

I'm trying to figuring out what the culprit is, so any additional info is welcome.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
sorry, i have stock rom 1.66 ita, wm6.5 ... the days before installing everything was fine, no more 4-5 % over night drains, but now increased to 15%. No other mods/apps installed after these two. Maybe is something wrong with task facade, because is old. i will try tonight with an other taskmanager, but which one? Dutty's was fine, but seems slow when starting the phone. I will try with this one or something else, like arkswitch? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
I didn't change any code which is running in bg. Black-/Whitelists are read on startup, so I don't think it's a LMT related problem. Without any user interaction, LMT will do nothing -> no power consumption!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
You can also try the taskmanager from Resco. It is in the (sticky) Touch X thread in the App/theme HD2 forum. I believe Resco is tested thoroughly so... for a test it's more save.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
Thank you, but give me the name of a good task manager, please. I am runnig stock 1.66 ita wm6.5. Thank you, again :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Beefheart:
What a cracking program. I only use it for three applications - task manager, Resco Explorer and HTC Messaging but it makes life a lot easier. It also works with S2U2 which means you can compose and reply to messages without unlocking the phone. :)

Top marks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
which is the name of this process, because was removed today from the thread
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danusko:
HI,

at first - great app

I installed it and it seem it works but...

for me works only double up to close apps. When i make double down or right or left, it only show icon about gesture and does nothing.

Make i something wrong?

I dont know if i understand "?" gesture. If i do this gesture it remember apps, which now running and if i make this gesture "?" again, it runs this apps?

thx for help
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
sorry, i have not installed today plugin... now it's ok.. i will test it tonight to see battery drain
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Beefheart:
No, run an application you want a gesture to open, and with it open perform the '?' gesture followed by the gesture you want to open the application. This will then put an entry in Mobile Device\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\LMT connecting the gesture with the application.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] markosf:
How about Alt+Tab functionality?

Excellent program.

How about Alt+Tab functionality assigned to a gesture?

I tried assigning another program that performs alt+tab to a gesture but I couldn't make it work. Maybe because it takes an argument?

\Program Files\AEBPlus\AEBPlus.exe 001E

also tried to put a .lnk in the registry but that also failed.

Thank you for your great work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danusko:
thx Pagnell

now i understand and it works great

and if i good understand, now is not possible to assigne any gesture to any action or?

i mean e.g.

in resco explorer assign double left or right as up or down in folder level
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cybermo:
Sometimes the lmt gesture restart HTC sense!

any clue?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Beefheart:
Can someone confirm where all the registry entries are with this? I have manage to get it into a position where the up gesture hangs Sense and blanking Mobile Device\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\LMT and even a fresh install doesn't make any difference. Even when I perform a '?' followed by an up gesture it hangs.

I want to blank all possible registry entries then start from scratch, it clearly doesn't do this on an uninstall.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Which gesture? The doubleLineUp (close) gesture or a different one? doubleLineUp is ok, because sense is only a normal process, which can be closed. You can add sense to the close blacklist...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Up gesture is always close the current process (here manila). Add manila to the close blacklist to avoid this problem.

Btw: All reg entries for LMT are under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\LMT
[Windows Mobile Software Development] DaveLeh:
Great program, but how does this WhiteListBack work?

I addes a String "WhiteListBack" with the value "\Windows\OperaL.exe" but Opera doesn't perform the "back"-action with double left gesture.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Beefheart:
Cheers, I have just realised this. :o
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jackie_e:
Can you post the exact command-line to manila?

I added

"\windows\manila.exe" but it doesn't work, while I found this

"/Programme/TaskFacade/TaskFacade.exe"

for the DoubleDowns, and this works.

So I have to replace the backslashes with slashes, and it's case-sensitive?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jhova:
pretty nice work, but I still got 1 problem.

How can I Link the Manila Startpage to a gesture? Just linking the manila.exe doesn´t seem to work...

and paths like "\windows\manilashortcut.exe" home (or even [...]music)

or manila://home.page won´t work either.

solution anyone?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Laurenswolf:
If you make the close gesture at the homescreen the phone freaks out and I have to take the battery out to make it work again. Is there a way to not allow it to work at the homescreen?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Beefheart:
Yes. Using a registry tool, go to 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\LMT' and create a new Multi String Value called 'BlackListClose' then add a path to each application you don't want the close gesture to close, using a new line for each application. In this case '\windows\manila.exe' which will stop this 'freak out' happening. You will need to close and restart LMT for it to take effect.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] styles89:
very nice tool
[Windows Mobile Software Development] knaawmsayin:
I'm positively surprised how well this application works, even at 0.2 stage. Well done guys!

I was wondering if anyone has been able to link Dutty's Task Manager to a gesture? I mean by swiping the ?? gesture and then the preferred gesture you want to associate Dutty's Task Manager with. All other programs seem to work okay, but Dutty's refuses to open after I've taught LMT the gesture. Does this require manual setting through registry? Or is there something I've missed?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
It's (near) perfect ! :p

I just added "\Windows\manila.exe" and "\Windows\shell32.exe"to to a new multistring "BlackListClose" to avoid freezing/closing on the today screen & windows menu screen. For who don't knows, every path has his own row (in this case, 2 rows). I am missing only an automatic startup of LMT, but i will create a shortcut to startup manually if it does not exist yet :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] [★]:
Lol just found out, dont do double line up on the homescreen, it closes manila :p

good work guys ^^
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
just add to the registry what i was posted before you, then restart LMT. In this way LMT will close everything when needed, but not manila and start menu
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
with respect to the single-touch gestures, one could choose to implement some sort of "single-touch command mode" that is triggered by a single-touch gesture that wouldn't interfere with the standard touch-gestures. For example, a swipe from the bottom of the screen to, say, a third of the screen. The same way it was done with the "HTC Cube" (if you can remember that app from the days of yore).

Just a thought.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
appelflap, thank you, it's not bad resco task manager... Last night, from 23:43 to this morning at 8:30 when i was wake up by Klaxon, the battery drains only 4%... so, everything is working fine now, the battery draining was just fault of task facade running in background
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Tr3ckie:
i put a link to lmt.exe in the autostart folder \windows\autostart

now it perfectly starts with every boot =)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
so, this way we don't need an update.. we already have an exclusion list for swipe up, an automatic startup.. no more LMT 0.3 :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] def0:
Thanks for the tool, great idea. Works fine here. Is it possible to have it launching other filetypes too? I tried to use it for launching some mortscript scripts (actually copy and paste) but it didn't work for me, just nothing happened. Tried using shortcut and directly the mscr file too.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zhuozhi211:
Hi, is it x2 new multistring registry key? or x1 multistring registry key with two lines in it?

********************************************************************

Finally figured out how... at least on my HD2 unit - I am using PHM Registry Editor => instead of adding a new MultiString Value, I added New Expandable String Value.

I added one news string value for each application I want to add to my black or white list.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
I made a little cab that will bind the DoubleLineRight (opposite of the "back" command) to the home screen of sense. I made it for myself, but maybe I can do someone else a favor with it too.

It's also possible to bind it to any other gesture. In that case copy the attached home.lnk file (included in the zip file) to your device and edit the registry for the gesture you like.

Happy Swiping
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tossero:
Hi ! I must say that this is a great tool ,very nice indeed !:)

I have noticed a battery drain during the night , usually I get 3-4% but since I`ve installed LMT Launcher it gets to 8-10 % in the exact same conditions . It doesnt change if I switch from TaskFacade to Resco Tasks for example ...

Is it just me or this is happening for you guys also ?

Anyway ,thanks again and keep up the good work !

Cheers ~
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
i've installed resco task manager (2010) a couple of days ago, it's much-much smaller than task facade and it's not draining my battery at all :confused: take a look at your opened tasks/services
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
Out of curiosity, why do you prefer to use one of the available swipes for hometab, when you can press the reserved hardware button?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] papp.martin:
switch previous or next window

I would like to switch between running programs with help of LTM left/right gesture.

Could you please recommend any application to switch between aplications? AEBPlus does only switch next but not switch previous.

thanks