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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
Who knows a good offline navigator for android that's working in this build?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
Probably not worth playing with at this point, I think enabling JIT just minimizes the problem, it seems the real issue is in the sensors library, there is a rootfs floating around that fixes system_server but breaks the g-sensor, now that we are hot on its trail it shouldn't be too long before that bug is squashed, so I'd probably hold out. The system gets rather unstable running with JIT on.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
All of the "good" ones to my knowledge are not free...

I'd be interested to hear in any free alternatives.

Supposedly you can use the newest Navigation app to store the route in your phone - so you basically plan your route beforehand, download the route to the phone and then go - if you lose service, no big deal.

Yo, wanted to talk to you about that rootfs actually. Did you try the one that stine posted? Haven't talked to him about it today, but it made the system_server issue disappear, and the gsensor did work... it was just "numb" or slow to respond. Kinda hard to describe... playing Labyrinth really made it apparent.

Oh, and if you go back - the context of the quote that you quoted was from a reset within Android. Nothing to do with system_server & JIT, just rebooting within Android & me only seeing that when JIT is enabled.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
Yeah I was just talking to Stine a minute ago, he added an unconditional sleep of .1 seconds or something to the sensor lib. That's why it's slow. His theory is the sensor polling loop runs rampant without sleeping or exiting, and that is "system_server" as we know it.

EDIT: *Gazes into crystal ball* I see a rootfs patch that fixes system_server in our future. StineBD is awesome!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] radcpuman:
I installed the 2/9 test kernal on my Tilt 2 RHOD 300. Everythings works well except when I get an incoming call while in sleep mode, it doesn't fully wake up. And it won't call out after that either. I've tried changing the sleep mode without any effect. Any advice would be great.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ravip_27:
For some reason the link to HTC developer site does not redirect properly. The link is correct when you hover over it. Try this in your browser: dl4.htc.com/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/USB_driver_20101122_release.zip or go to http://developer.htc.com/index.html and then towards the bottom you will find the section HTC Android USB driver for Microsoft PC
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
I've seen this problem on mine with the 1/30 kernel. Haven't installed anything newer yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rcgators:
I've experienced this with all the recent kernels. It is very intermittent, could be 1 hour.. may take a couple days. When it occurs the dialer is dead. Other functions of the phone seem to work for a little while. At the time of the incoming call, the led goes from green to orange/red and stops there. You can wake up the phone but it will never dial in or out and will never go into sleep mode.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] electriczbif:
Happened to me too with Rhod100 test kernel, after the incoming call in sleep mode, the phone was not connected to the GSM network anymore, I tried to switch airplane mode on and off to re-register the phone to the network but it didn't work, and when I rebooted to windows my SIM was gone, can't find any network with it anymore (tried it in another phone and it's dead). I'm sure it was a simple coincidence (happened with another SIM a year ago, in WinMo), but the "not fully awake on incoming call" sympthom remains.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
All, if you are on any 'testing kernel' do not post in this thread about it.

If you have problems, we will hash them out in the testing kernel thread - that's kind of the point of that thread, feedback on the kernel so we can improve it... Oy ve.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rcgators:
arrrghhh... not trying to tick you off. I saw this in the base frx04 release, not just with test kernels. Just trying to let folks know it's a known problem. I've been watching the testing kernel thread waiting for the devs to ask specifically about this problem so I can supply diagnostics. Don't want to clutter that thread when they are looking specifially for something else.

Didn't mean to raise you blood pressure, others have been doing way too much of that.;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Heh, no worries. I want to ensure that if there's an issue specific to the testing kernels, that those issues are not reported here...

If you're experiencing the issue with the mainline GIT kernels, carry on... I did not realize that was the case with all the posts ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pgdrz4:
um

i dont think im gonna be using this until its almost finnished, this has caused me to miss important calls.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I wouldn't recommend anyone run this if they're not prepared to lose some things. We're not nearly complete - lots of code is falling, but there's still lots of little bugs out there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] o0adam0o:
Thanks for all the work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Nice crosspost. Mind never doing that again? Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ramilbasa:
I have the same result....I charged the phone 100%, put it into standby and after about 30 seconds, got the green LED
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
Notification bar

I have the reference build, is there a way to change the notification bar?

and is it possible to get live wallpapers working?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Deafcyclist:
I tried the live wallpaper and it ended up messing up my xdandroid frx04 install so I had to do a clean install. I wouldn't recommend the live wallpaper until it get fixed.

What do you mean by changing the notification bar? If it's possible, I'm curious. It's a little funny to me that I can customize the UI of my jailbroken iPod more easily than my android install. I may just be missing something obvious for android though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] stinebd:
Folks, I'm pleased to announce our first public testing release of XDAndroid Gingerbread.

This is a work-in-progress build, of course. But it is also already well-refined. Performance is on-par with or improved from Froyo in most cases. Core system applications are mostly stable.

KNOWN ISSUES:

Google Apps will behave badly from time to time (arrrghhh noted blank window issues, for example)

GPS is not working (driver needs to be reimplemented) and Location services are generally missing as well

Accelerometer support is missing (driver needs to be reimplemented)

Bluetooth is not working, even on TI devices (crashes when activating - disabled in this build)

Other functionality and stability issues will occur

The system image is available for download immediately at http://files.xdandroid.com/system-gingerbread-testing.ext2.zip. This has been signed with our release keys, which means you might be able to use a froyo data.img with it, but this is in no way supported (it's a testing build after all). If you have issues with previous data images, start fresh and try again before reporting issues.

If you are going to use this build, please report issues via our IRC channel or bug tracker. Thanks!

And go easy on arrrghhh. It's tough answering the same questions over and over! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Nice! Glad to see this out in the wild :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
Amazing work! Downloading now :D

Maybe this should get its own thread, it's really a whole different build, and will have its own issues and all that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
Does anybody now how to change notification bar color, I have wite but I want black (transparanted)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
Used my old data.img, first boot took forever, maybe 10 minutes of flying Androids, after it booted up, got a pretty quick reboot to WinMo. I'll try again with a clean data.img later.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
Hmm not sure what to make of this. I booted twice without a data.img, and each time I'm getting a reboot soon after boot. I know it's generating a clean data.img because the background and widgets are stock. What's strang is that the data.img seems to be coming pre-populated with logs, including logs from FRX04, and the logs are exactly the same each time, with the last log always the same as the log I posted previously. So the log I posted previously may not have been my log at all, but instead some default log that comes with the the default data.img.

Rhod400

startup.txt:

set ramsize 0x10000000

set ramaddr 0x10000000

set mtype 2292

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "rel_path=andboot.gingerbread lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 north_am_dialing=1 force_cdma=1 physkeyboard=rhod400"

boot

WisTilt2's latest posted test kernel
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] pdawg17:
I get a reboot after first boot with or without a new data.img...2nd boot though works fine...

I had to use a new data.img though because I couldn't get my gmail sync set up correctly...there might be a way to redo it without a new data.img but I decided it's probably better to start from scratch anyway...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ryannathans:
using Froyo with latest rootfs. in startup.txt i have physkeyboard=rhod110

however the bloody FN key is an @ and there is no other key that functions like the FN. What can I do?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
does anybody now how to make the notification bar transparanted (black)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rpierce99:
RE: Gingerbread

I copied my entire andboot folder over to a new folder called Gingerbread, changed startup.txt to rel_path=Gingerbread, and launched the newly copied haret from the Gingerbread folder. So far everything works fine except data. All of my apps and settings are intact. CDMA data isn't working for me though, although it did fix my wifi problems that I have been having.

So at least for me using my standard data.img worked great. I did forget to rename froyo.user.conf to gingerbread.user.conf though, so I wonder if I will get any better/worse results with a proper conf file in place.

EDIT: Not sure if it was fixing the conf file or just the fact that it was boot #2, but the second boot was FAST, still no data though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
I mean changing the notification bar COLOR (I want it black)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Use gingerbread or blazn then... It's not exactly easy to change the color of the notification bar, it requires framework changes to the system image, and usually results in an unbootable image.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
How do I get gingerbread and what is there not working in gingerbread

And about live wallpapers

At page 1 you see pictures, there is an picture from what apps you want to install, there stay three live wallpapers!

How can that, they are not working!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Christiaan91:
Search and you'll find this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
Is there realy no way to get live wallpapers working?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Mnementh666:
Oh sure... make gingerbread available the same day I break my phone and have to upgrade :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tomdeaap:
I tried it on my first Adroid experience, and it worked sortof, but it slowed the device down so badly that it became a useless yet expensive paperweight with a background that sometimes showed some movement. My advice: don't try it, and put the time and energy into something useful like buying your partner some flowers. In the end it might get you more movement than a live wallpaper. If you really can't resist, there are several people on this forum who have tried and described it, I'd say the search funtion would get you an answer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Eodun:
X'DDDD You made my day @ the forum ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] coolwater22:
well i have tried wallpaper on mine and it worked wonderfully...:)..with a little lag but still able to use it but i would rather have my device be more like speedy gonzales!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ramilbasa:
FRX04 Rock Solid

I have been using FRX04 for around 2 days straight now and it is rock solid. I have a Rhod100 (HTC Touch Pro 2)

Battery life is awesome,2 days without charging doing casual texting and calls. WiFi ; so is 3G Mobile Internet browsing. All the apps I downloaded and installed are working.

I DID NOT experience any sluggishness (except with Angry Birds Seasons)

I DID NOT have to restart Android nor suffered any SOD's

Droid Explorer quickly recognized the phone and the SD Card.

Contacts fully functional as well as SIM access

Some additional notes:

GPS working 100% (googlemaps and mapdroyd)

Camera,BT, or course still not working (i also downloaded the camera lib but not working for me).

Speakerphone ok

Sleep working (I noticed Green LED when I put the phone in standby).

Keyboard backlight fully functional

Accelerometer fully functional (downloaded some apps as well)

Battery depletion is average when using WiFi / 3G mobile browsing / GPS (i got around 1.5 hours continuous use before i have to plug in the charger).

FB App fully functional.

Thank you so much devs for FRX04. I am lovin' it.... :D

I still use Windows Mobile during weekdays as I use my phone for work. Albeit FRX04 is the most stable build so far (well, for me, that is), I still will not use this as an everyday-use phone.....just on weekends....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
But when I install one (from the market) he says my handset does not support live backgrounds
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Grab the apk from the BLAZN build.

Did you not listen to others tho? They make the device drag like molasses going uphill in January, not sure why you would willingly do that just for 'live wallpapers'... to each their own I guess.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
Now I have the apk, but at the moment I select the background in the Live Wallpaper menu the application won't works?

how can I fix it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Considering "won't works" isn't very descriptive, I don't know how to help you. Search this thread for live wallpapers, I know there was a lot of people interested in it a few months ago, and quickly realized it's not worth it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
I mean that android say "the application live wallpapers ...is unexpectly stopped.

sorry for the english, i'm dutch
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] MerlinOfLore:
Talking Tom Cat

I'm dual booting my Tilt2 to WM6.5 and the Rhodium 2.2 Blazn android package. It works very well (Thanks!) but I have 1 question... my wife got our 2 yr old granddaughter hooked on the Talking Tomcat app for her IPhone that repeats everything you say. So I downloaded the Android version for my phone and everything seems to work except it doesn't hear what we're saying ... as if the mic is turned off. Any thoughts as to how to make sure the mic is active for this app? Any help is greatly appreciated :cool: MerlinOfLore
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
Have you read the FAQ at the download site.the mic is only working in calls accept..

1. call voicemail in wimo

2. than boot

3. mic will works
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I'd encourage you to find others in this thread that have done it in the past.

Crap, accidentally thanked your post trying to quote it... really wish I could remove my thanks, oh well.

Anyhoo, BLAZN is ridiculously old. While the call VM in WinMo trick listed above should work, if you run a newer build it shouldn't be an issue. Although I don't use this app, it sounds absolutely awful :p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
aarrghh:

The problem is, it is not for FRX04!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] catapult1234:
im on frx04. The ledlight should go green on standby. When its red and stays red its an indication of battery drainage.

Well my led stays red, is there anything i can do to check why its not going to "real" sleep.

I did update once on frx04 with the startup app that comes with it.

Cheers

-edit- i use the startup app to overclock to 700Mhz -> could this cause any trouble?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Shouldn't matter honestly, but I haven't used Live Wallpapers in 6+ months...

OC alone wouldn't cause a non-sleep issue.

The two highest reasons for a phone not sleeping - GPS being enabled in Location & Security - it needs to be disabled to sleep properly.

#2, rogue app. App killers aren't recommended for 2.2+, but if you're having an issue with the phone not sleeping this is a big culprit as well - not all 3rd party apps respect sleep state properly for whatever reason. Not sure if it's our build or if native Android devices have to deal with this issue as well. I'm kinda thinking it's a mix of both - there's probably something we're not doing correctly to shut down the app, and I'm sure there's apps out there that don't respect the sleep state correctly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] catapult1234:
Thanks for the quick reply! I will check if turning of location by gps fixes the sleep issue.

Bout your second remark. I have installed "automatic taskkiller" from the marketplace. The changelog states its froyo 2.2 compliant.

Why exactly is taskkilling not recommended on froyo 2.2+? Should i deinstall the automatic killing app?

Cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
GPS enabled kills sleep, guaranteed.

As for the task killing app, it is Google's recommendation that they should not be used in 2.2+. I would keep it, just be careful - if you kill some app that hasn't synced its data you could lose data - hence the reason Google is telling people to stop using them - for a lot of users they create more trouble than they're worth. With that said, I use SystemPanelLite so I can see which apps are running and kill only the ones I don't care about.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] catapult1234:
Tested and confirmed. My phone sleeps well again :) Thanks alot.

Hmmz good point about the data loss. I will just uninstall automatic taskkiller. Hence the only reason i installed it was cause i thought some app prevented my phone from sleeping :p

Thanks again for your help!

Cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] QuentinX5:
Tip of Advice regarding Battery Life

So, this is something I found out after a bit of random trial and error...

I was having a really low battery life, and the phone would recharge real quickly to achieve full battery life, like 5 minutes would claim to get me half-way. After doing a bit of pondering, I noticed when you start up XDAndroid, no matter what your battery life might be at, it will give you a full battery bar. For this reason, your battery life might be sustained much weaker than most. The workaround?

Charge your battery to 100% while in Windows Mobile, and leave it charged while starting XDAndroid, your battery life should last a significant amount of time. If something happens while your in XDAndroid and you have to restart, it might be best to let it charge first before starting so your battery life is extended (that is, if you plan to use it as a regular phone).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Unfortunately the way we poll pmem this is how it is. If you use an app like SystemPanel to look at the battery in mV and you accidentally rotate the phone, it'll start back at 100 and slowly drop. Devs are working on correctly the battery meter issues, unfortunately camro never really 'finished' his battery meter code.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] QuentinX5:
That explains why the battery meter is 75% finished... Resetting and recharging would only be a temporary fix.

XDAndroid is coded in XML, correct?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Uhm... what?

XML isn't really a programming language, most use it as a way to configure software...

XDAndroid is Android. Android is coded mostly in C and Java, with some C++. Obviously there's other components, depending on what you're talking about.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] QuentinX5:
Sorry, haven't done much programming in nearly a year. Was trying to find out if it was any coding language I was familiar in, because I wanted to try and pitch in some help. Haven't done much Java, but I'm familiar with C and C++.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Most of the code that needs modification is C - kernel code. There's some userland stuff that needs work, and that's all over the place. Mostly C and Java from what I understand.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] QuentinX5:
Gotcha. As for opening the kernel to view the code, any software needed to un-decode it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
No reason to do that, we have a GIT repo!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] T_D_H:
I am sure this has been asked a million times but my searched dont show anything past 2009 on this question, is there anything stopping some one from cooking an android rom for the RHOD devices?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Eodun:
Certainly... no boot from NAND.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] QuentinX5:
Daww... Your making everything super easy arrrghhh! :X
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
No reason to make it hard ;). We have a repo for every piece of XDAndroid basically.

As was stated previously, we don't have full access to the NAND. However, the effort to port tinboot is almost complete, ACL said he's close to releasing it to the masses:

Proof!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
@ STINEBD OR ARRR

hi, guys

just a though. guys why xdandroid does not have different builds for CDMA AND GSM?. example (FRX04) one for CDMA and another for GSM. i know all xdandroid builds have everything included it for all devices. most people on ppc have CDMA and most people at XDA have GSM. maybe it's harder to maintain two builds. this is just an idea. i know

people have different issue. different performance, different results. keep every one happy, if we are going to atack an issue we know where is coming from. you know CDMA OR GSM. i think people will

have different result and better performance.

THIS JUST AN IDEA GUYS. THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I guess I'll copy my response from PPCG:

What benefit would that have?

We're going to be breaking out boardfiles for CDMA and GSM, but different builds... doesn't make sense at all. Then you run into problems where GSM users run CDMA builds, visa-versa... etc. It'll just make it more confusing IMHO.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
What benefit would that have?.... NOT MIXING SERVICES CDMA AND GSM. KERNELS, ROOFTS. ETC...

but different builds... doesn't make sense at all... SORRY LET ME REPHRASE MYSELF FRX04 ONE FOR CDMA AND THE OTHER FOR GSM. DIFFERENT SERVICE.

just a though. no biggy

THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Pasted from PPCG:

Eh, we'll see what happens when the boardfiles split. Not really much we can do until that happens.

Probably really won't matter until we're flashing NAND builds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Qmaster11:
I have tested it.

It won't works in FRX04
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] AkumaX:
I decided to do a clean install of FRX04, + added newest rootfs (2/13) and newest kernel (1258). anything else i should be expecting?