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[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
less error prone, so more comfortable.

Furthermore, when you are working on the screen, it is much more comfortable to just swipe then to "travel" with your hand to the buttons and then to search for the correct button.

Overall it is a much more intuitive way of interacting with a device. I hope the developers will develop this further, because in my opinion it has a great potential. It's a revolutionary new UI approach.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
See this app (taskbarlauncher). Read the last post of the developer where he announces the upcoming new 0.5 beta (here)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Holy Bear:
adding the multistring BlackListClose doesn't work for me. It still closes manila.

I'm using CeRegistryEditor, and for some reason it won't let me add another string to the multistring either. Maybe the problem lies in CeRegistryEditor?

edit: d'oh, manila, not manilla... that works now, thanks.

Still can't add shell32.exe to the same multistring though...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Use Ctrl+Enter to enter a new line in CeRegistryEditor.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
I dreamed of such a program for a long time, and when it was announced I couldn't wait for it to be released.

But I'm afraid it's not that great in practice, at least not for me. The gesture recognition isn't very good, less than 50% accurate for me, but that's not really what led me to uninstall your little tool.

The main problems I experienced were frequent hangups of the total system or crashing and restarting HTC Sense all over again. I'm on stock 1.66 and have a pretty stable system otherwise, very stable actually.

I don't have time to read through this thread right now, but hopefully others have experienced instability as well so that maybe it's something that can be addressed in future releases.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
I optimized the gesture recognition in v0.3. This version will also have a default blacklistclose, so your two major problems with the app should be fixed. We will release the new version soon...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] papp.martin:
square guesture

Hi

Is it possible to set custom application to square gesture?

Could you please post register key if is?

Thanks

Martin
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
No, the square gesture is hard coded to "close LMT".
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Tr3ckie:
"added whitelist support for Back command on DoubleLineLeft gesture (e.g. Opera). Just add a multistring "WhiteListBack" with the full path to each process to include (no default values yet)"

it doesnt work on my HD2...

i added

\windows\OperaL.exe but it has no effect...the rest works perfectly
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, it should be e.g. "\windows\opera9.exe" for Opera9. You referenced the Opera Launcher and not the main app.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] xavierdemon:
I'd really like the Back function for Opera as well and I have no idea what I need to put in the reg. Could someone please just share everything I need to put in.

Thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
What version of Opera are you running?

If it's the shipped, 9.7, then create a multistring with \Windows\Opera9.exe as one of the strings. If it's Opera Mobile 10, the string you'll need to add will be something like "\Program Files\Opera Mobile 10\Opera10-armv4i.exe". Though that depends entirely on where you installed it.

I think adding those two as defaults will be in the next change log :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] xavierdemon:
I have Opera 9.7 installed, added what you suggested and it works :). Thanks very much.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] 4D3:
this looks brilliant, i watched your vid on WMPoweruser and i was wondering if you could point me in the direction of the Wifi remote app? (I wouldnt get the full name as it was hidden by something on your screen)

also i cannot seem to find task fascad.

Nice work and i look forward to trying this!

MG
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zhuozhi211:
I was on V0.2 and can't seem to upgrade to V0.3.

I tried uninstalling V0.2, and reinstall V0.3, but can't work.

Can anyone help?

*************************************************

It works now - I removed the LMT registry key manually, restarted the phone, and reinstall the cab.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] hd2_rookie:
i didn't get it :(

hi, thx for this cool prog.

but i've some problems.

i installed v. 0.3

made a soft resest

than i made this

HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH\MultiTouchDemo is set to "1". For testing set value to "0" and then to "1"

but now, i only see the pics. when i make a gesture

i tried to do this:

I think you must have accidentally set the registries by doing a double swipe question mark.

Now go to your registry to check what is your HKLM\Software\LMT\TopToBottomLineDouble currently set to and then change the value back to what you want eg: "\windows\TaskMgr.exe" , means double swipe down will take you to your TaskMgr no matter where you are.

so but my problem is, that i've no folder with lmt in my HKLM ( another question in my device its called HKEY is HKLM for local machine isn't it?

can s.o. write a manual for dummis? please?

sry for my bad english!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, just do the '??' gesture again and then the gesture you want to connect with the foreground process, e.g. your TaskManger is your current process, do '??' and then 'DoubleSwipeDown'. Now the 'DoubleSwipeDown' gesture is connected to the TaskManager.

Or: Have a look at "HKCU\Software\LMT\*" and not "HKLM\Software\LMT\*". :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] hd2_rookie:
hey thx, it works!!!!!!

best prog ever! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] xavierdemon:
Is there anyway to make LMT orientation aware?

As when I'm using Opera in landscape and attempt to use the double back gesture, the app just closes instead of going back to the previous page.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MAMeingast:
+1

It would be great if the gestures rotated with the UI!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
so what's UP :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MAMeingast:
lol

Whatever the UI says is up! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] webpatrick:
WM65 LockScreen and S2U2

Hi,

Have to say LMT is a wonderfull addition to the HD2, which hasn't got that many buttons ;-)

Sorry if it maybe that the things below mentioned before, but I haven't had the time to read the thread.

LMT UP guesture freezed up my device in WM65 LockScreen.

Also LMT works in S2U2, wich I think is not handy, cause you want your phone to be in a locked state, but maybe I've got to report this at the S2U2 developer.

Keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, the up gestures kills the current foreground process. I added a default BlackListClose in v0.3 to ignore the close gesture when manila or shell32 is the current foreground process. Just extend this multistring in the registry (HKCU\Software\LMT\BlackListClose) with the S2U2 app path and LMT will ignore the gesture also in S2U2.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
Hi, as promised 0.3 is a lot better and solves most issues. So thanks a lot for that, everything working beauitfully now.

Except, I can't seem to get Opera back function to work? I add \Windows\Opera9.exe as a multi-string entry in HKCU\Software\LMT and it won't do anything.

Does the double line left function have to be empty for the back function to work or can I have it assigned to a program for when I'm not in Opera? Either way, I tried both and neither would work with the back function.

Cheers.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
It should always work, because the whitelist entry overrides the default assignment. Just add a multistring named "WhiteListBack" in HKCU\Software\LMT with "\windows\opera9.exe" and then _restart_ LMT. Now it should work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gecko02:
Thank you for the great improvement by adding this app.;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
Huh, I swear I was doing everything right but it wasn't working. I just replaced Opera9.exe with opera9.exe and now it works though, thanks a lot!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sebstermw:
Crashes on the lock screen

hi, when using this. my up gesture doesnt seem to work,

but when trying the up gesture on the lock screen, the phone instantly crashes.

Seb
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MAMeingast:
The double up gesture is hard-coded to close the current app. Use a different gesture for your custom apps!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, to avoid the lock screen crash: Add "\Windows\gwes.exe" to the BlackListClose multistring (HKCU\Software\LMT).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Bloodix:
Thanks for this nice apps !

I report a little bug between LMT / Tomtom / XDAshutdown

When i close TOMTOM with "DoubleLineUp" after i can't used sleep button of XDAshutdown...

Only one way to solve the bug, a softreset...

Sleep is the only one button blocked. Softreset and Shutdown are working well.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bayowar:
I tried what you suggested, it seems the PHM Regedit and Total Commander

both can't handle multistring values. Fortunately I found the Tre Editor, which

is also free and works well. Just add a new line after the existing entries.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sephiroth_vg:
Why dont u guys include a Rotate Gesture to rotate the screen ?? :) Will be Really cool.. and ill write a detailed walk through for this app when i get the chance...just bought the HD2 today:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
just change under registry settings one of the gesture to rotate (e.g. first of all, copy rotate.exe in Windows folder, then asign the registry key)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Just finished some changes, so it's time for LMT v0.4. The change log:

- added gwes.exe to default BlackListClose

- added Opera9 & Opera10 to WhiteListBack

- improved overlay code

- added parameter support for program launcher. Just add program parameter after a comma, e.g. "\Windows\tmail.exe,-RunInBKG"

- found bug in ipc mechanism (now 2 times faster!)

- added single touch gesture support (see attached new gestures). To activate support, set reg value SingleTouchGestureSupport to "1" and restart LMT

I've sent the new version to l3v5y, so it should be online soon...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
installed the new one :p Thank you l3v5y, thank you noname81 ;)

Single Touch Gesture Support is a great idea too ! But, we need more gestures (a reversed triangle: \-/ or a "V" in all four positions \/ /\ < >

Please add to the program an option with ?? to learn our own gestures... it is possible ?

Anyway, thank you guys !
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aussiebum:
thanks! question though - how do I actually use the new gestures? can I assign programs to launch from the new single touch gestures via registry, for example?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Yes, or you can use the "??" gesture to assign a program to the gesture (same procedure as for the mt gestures).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
Thanks! It's actually a lot faster. There's now a direct respons after a gesture. Great. I love it more each day.

Single-touch isn't working that well for me. I often hit some buttons or other screen elements before finishing the gesture. (I now see why you guys intitially went for the multi-touch gesture :) ) Maybe some practice will help.

BTW, just a thought, have you considered my suggestion to create a command mode for single touch gestures? I've posted this earlier in this thread. The idea is to trigger a single-touch mode by, for example, making a gesture from the bottom of the screen to 1/3 of the screen (the same gesture by which one launched the HTC Cube)

Anyway, thanks for this great app!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danusko:
Hi,

pefrect app, this is my "must have" app. :)

Pls. one question, how can i set command CLOSE to single touch gesture?

btw: for me also doesnt works this single gesture perfect...it detect some move for UI or Explorer and after ending gesture it run app as i wish, but also it moves to other screen. Maybe if there can be some detecting if it starts some of this new single gesture and in this case doesnt continue with run command base UI (dont move screen up, down...). But this is not so easy .. i know :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Aandi87:
LMT and Calling

Hi Guys,

is it possible to implement another "blacklist" where we can add programms like S2U2 and the HD2s phone application, because when i press the powerbutton on my phone i can double swype down and my taskmanager (Resco Taskmanager) opens up and i can close it.

On a phone call today, ive made the double down move unwittingly and my taskmanager opens up again. After that i was unable to end the phonecall, because no hardware and softwarebutton worked...

Greetings, Andi
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, the close gesture is hard coded to "Double swipe up". I could make it configurable in the next release. :-)

SingleTouchGestures: LMT works completely independent and cannot control or interfere the fg app. Due to this problems, I decideed to focus on mt gestures.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Why don't you add S2U2 and the phone app to the BlackListStart? It is already implemented...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danusko:
thx noname81

and if i want to defined in this v4 release it is not possible :)

i think if is "close" command only any file, maybe i can set it with some registry entry or ?

thx
[Windows Mobile Software Development] markosf:
flag for displaying recognized gestures

I suggest you have a Boolean registry setting for each gesture which if true, the displaying of the gesture will be suppressed. This can save some CPU cycles. (example name: <gesturename>hide=True)

I would use this with the Alt+Tab gesture I know have.

Also can you please include Alt+Tab functionality so I don't call an external program.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danusko:
+1

Alt+tab will be usefull
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danusko:
and one more suggestion:

if you added new single gesture "delete" i think you can also add the same gesture but rotated 180 degrees.

maybe in next release? :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Aandi87:
I did this with s2u2.exe and iLock2.exe, made a Softreset, and LMT is still working in the S2U2 Startscreen.

For the Phone Issue, i couldnt find the correct application to add to BlackListStart
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Oh, that is a bug. :-) Will be fixed in the next release. Or: Patch LMT.exe with the attached one. Then add full patch to e.g. S2U2 to the BlackListStart and restart LMT.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chalid:
This really is an must-have application for the hd2. I currently don't need any other gesture than swiping down, but this small addition to the phone, is a big plus to the usabilty!

thanks for that :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aussiebum:
Oh yeah, besides alt-tab would be great if we could somehow map one of the gestures to "Home". Also would be handy to have single-touch gestures < and > implemented - I find it difficult to do the multi-touch << and >> properly...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
Yeah, same here. I have left and right assigned to Comm Manager and File Explorer, but I mostly use this to swipe down for task manager and swipe up to close processes.

In fact, I went ahead and uninstalled the HTC Taskmanager as it supposedly slows down the device and eats battery. All I used it for was to fix the X button issue and now I don't need it!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zhuozhi211:
Wah even more awesome now in V0.4, single touch gesture as well?! The next better thing can only be contactless gesture???

Just a suggestion, can we have a overaching blacklist for apps that we dont want LMT to work on for all gestures?

For instance, I was playing Super Mario on Morphgear, and it often read double swipe left, right, down, up, and interrupted my play.

My setup:

ll up = Close

ll down = Taskfacade (too bad no animation)

== left = back

== right = Opera Bookmarks

<< = Rotate

>> = Comm Manager
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danusko:
Hi,

i finaly solved what i missed in this apps.

I started a little bit lerned work with mortscripts.

I figured out, that i can close apps with simply gesture (delete) using this attached code in mscr.

You need only to allow simply gesture (change 0 to 1 in registry) and then assigned (write path) this code in retistry to gesture "delete" and thats all.

it works for me. :)

i know, most of you know mortscript, but for me is it beginning :)

edit:

i can not upload it so if you want, you can write this to txt file and save it as mscr file. e.g. close.mscr

string= activewindow()
close (string)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] papp.martin:
Registry settings

Hi

Could you please post full list of settings keys in registry?

I also dont understand what is gesture << and >> i was not able to try it.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
You draw those gestures exactly like they look. Put two fingers on the screen, and do a < or > shape.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, does anyone know how to switch to the home screen via keybd_event()? I tried VK_LWIN (and all other VKs... :-) ) but the Leo switches to the Start menu!?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
It's really too long ago that I programmed in windows :p , but can't you declare a new constant and set it to #00ED (the code of the home button on the Leo)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danusko:
one idea,

what do you think about single gesture "L" or rotate sign of "L"?

I think if can be used "delete" sign, can be also used this or am i wrong?

For me will be this sign perfect single gesture mainly for close app. :) This i use for my desktop comp :).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, mortscript is a great addition, but in v0.5 you can assign every internal command to any gesture, so you can map "Close" to the Delete-Gesture... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danusko:
its a good news noname...i am look forward to new vs.

and whats the other single gesture? like L maybe O...

what do you think?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
maybe an @ . lol
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, the gestures are not the problem. I'm able to add every single stroke gesture to LMT. The problems are:

1) The gestures should not interfere with normal user behavior (scrolling in opera, etc.) "L" is just scrolling down and then right...

2) Overlay size: The overlays are loaded on the fly, which leads to a good memory footprint. I tried to load pngs on the fly but it was too slow.

3) Recognition time: The more gestures we support, the more CPU time it takes for the recognition step (but I think we could add a lot of gestures if that were the only issue... :-) )

I'll try to add specific single touch gestures in v0.6...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
Hi, I've asked this question before. Why don't you implement a single gesture command mode that is triggered by a single-touch swipe (like one long swipe from the bottom of the screen to the middle of the screen)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] yngvebn:
Because it would seriuosly mess up stuff like regular scrolling in lists, opera etc, etc...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
The HTC cube was launched this way. When you start a gesture outside the screen it hardly interferes with any other screen activator (be it a button, be it a scrolling gesture) Try it.

Anyway that was not the point. The point is that for single-touch gestures it's much more easier (imho) to trigger a single-touch mode, enter a simple single-touch like swipe back, up, down etc, exit the single touch-mode and execute the corresponding command.

(If any programmer is interested to take up this project please PM me, and please let did not be any criticism regarding LMT, because as it is it is a great app)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, v0.5 is finished but I think I'll add such a feature in v0.6:

- new internal command (which can be assigned to any mt gesture) to toggle single touch gesture input

- add new st gestures (swipes).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kruelant:
If you add these - you'll become my hero :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
That would be so great!!! Time for a donation button in your signature? :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
hm, that's perhaps a good idea. :-) The only question I have? Do we need for all these new gestures overlays? Overlays are currently stored as bmps in rc and adding so many overlays will blow up the exe-size!? I tried using pngs but that was too slow. I have to think about that. Perhaps I should swap the overlays to the filesystem...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
Is the size of the exe a constraint on the HD2? (I mean it is designed for the HD2 in the first place, or?) And the program memory of the HD2 is really big (with the 576 Mb enabled we have an aditional +/- 100 mb) so I can't imagine that memory is the problem. Or is it slowing down the algorithm, because of the extra complexity or because of the loadtime of the overlays?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] yngvebn:
Why not have the overlay as a smaller icon maybe displayed in the corner of the display?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] appelflap:
That's actually a good idea. Maybe this with a little feedback that a gesture is recognized like a vibration, a little red dot on the middle of the screen etc.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] yngvebn:
Another quick question. Disregarding the size of the exe. Which is faster? Filesystem or embedded resource?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
I think vibration is a good idea for all the new st gestures. l3v5y added vibration support but it is not used yet...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
... please do not "damage" the battery life .. i like this mod as it is now, no draining battery at all :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
This behavior will not be influenced since LMT is only event orientated (touch events). Only a little bit more calculations for the new gestures, but that's no problem for a 1GHz CPU. The gesture recognition engine is fast and optimized... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
0.5 is now available for download!

One thing that may be neat (and that I'm working on) is that instead of showing an icon when the gesture is detected, LMT continuously displays a mouse trail on an overlay.

This may make it easier to work out where you're touching, and what the gesture you have drawn looks like.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
I'm a bit confused.

So in version 0.5 there's no default values and you have to assign them all? I liked the default values, if I need to setup close and back and stuff in 0.5 myself I'll stick with 0.4 for now.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Syed Asser Ali:
hi there is problem my imate jamin camra is very slow i spicialy in lights please help ,i cant capture moving objects in still camra or while shooting movies
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Semseddin:
I have the same problem,too. Is there any fix or optimizations available for this issue ?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] YoLoLo:
No, there is no fix for that problem...

It's a matter of light and lens...

On this style of devices, pics are quite good on natural light (sun, or cloudy)

But in artificial light, there is a lack of a flash, and the pics looks blurry and with many chromatic errors...

(this is because of the tiny size of the lens...)

Remember that this is a phone... not a real camera !

I've made the choice : My phone for unexpected pics, and a real camera for 'good' pics !