yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BGDonLINE:
This solution works generally in android im just curious why recovery can't mount sdcard and is it possible to flash it from internal memory? Because when im in root explorer and when im in / i have /sdcard < internal memory and /sdcard/external_sd < external memory

btw we still don't have our sub forum im only one currently working on this model :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] filmaker:
Will this only work with RA recovery or other ones like TeamWin?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
dont know what teamwin recovery is (assume its for the evo 4g) but it should work fine as a few other posters got it workinig with other recoveries.

but even if it doest an unlocked bootloader should allow you to do all the commands via fastboot, wipe flash etc.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] z1on:
I just tried to do that with my custom ROM but I got this error:

Finding update package...
I:Update location: /sdcard/my_custom_rom.zip
Opening update package...
I:1 key(s) loaded from /res/keys
Verifying update package...
I:verify_file returned 1
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted.

My ROM is signed with test-key same as the one in /res/keys, I can't understand why the error..
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
does your recovery support turning off sig check? if not you may need to find a new method of signing
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] z1on:
I'm using CWM 5.0.2.8; from the menu I can disable the signature verification but can't do it via cmd line.

I'm wondering why I can't flash my ROM even if /res/keys and CERT.RSA using the same key?! I'm missing something?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] xiaomouse:
how to set this, pls help, thank ^^
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] xiaomouse:
wuwuwuwu

no ppl noe it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DecanA:
Use the CSMI icon tool, search it :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ET:
Those are notification icons and have nothing to do with csmi. Install MaxManila and you can have these 4 icons.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=551489&highlight=MaxManila
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] xiaomouse:
thank thank

thank a lot

love xda
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] huda:
Hi，guys，this ROM include Topaz original M2.5.2011.3030

download：

http://d.4tv.cn/dopod/diamond2/RUU_...61.44c.25.33_2.49.25.204_ESM7206A_Ship.exe.7z

If you want more,Please Visit:http://www.playpda.net

cheers!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Thanks for sharing.

Can you upload somewhere else? Your link is very slow (1.5kB/s)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] huda:
You can search "Thunder"(迅雷) to download this rom;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chihliouma:
Not sure if this is new or not, but the guy who post this link said it includes M2.5.2011.3010 ??? As I learn HTC won't ship TOPAZ with M2.5. Am I wrong or HTC changes his mind now ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] vadyarik:
This ROM can be used on a simple Topaz, not Topaz S2?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ljankok:
Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for sharing!.

Downloading now. 5 hours remaining :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cityhunterx:
20mins left, will upload somewhere if i havent fallen asleep!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ljankok:
Excellent :D

Take a redbull :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cityhunterx:
Uploading to beegee's server. Should be up in 30mins under official rom, 6.5.

nite ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cityhunterx:
ok, just tried to flash, it flashes ok, but then has continous boot loop :mad:

Anyhow, theres about 20mins left to the upload, ill leave you guys to play around.

nite
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Thanks a lot. Will put it on Rapidshare or Megaupload as soon as it is complete.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Faramarzfa:
hi

as in know htc didnt release any official Manila 2,5 for topaz???

i want to know where did you find this rom?

i search htc site but i didnt find any rom upgrade with manila 2.5?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cityhunterx:
ROM upload complete
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Started upload to Megaupload, Rapidshare, ... will post the links later here.

And I will try to dump this ROM and see what can be used.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Faramarzfa:
any direct link from htc site?

i cant believe that this rom is official.

any direct link from htc site??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ljankok:
you could say thank you to the uploader and then download the file and see for yourself what it is and what is isn't..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Lo_RaT_PeNaT:
This rom radio is new not?, someone can check it out to test?, although not be very well if officer in Spain
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ayl:
Has anyone tested it yet? Waiting for Rapidshare...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] huda:
I already to bulid this M2.5 to HD2 ROM,and it looks run quickly and very well!

You can see pictures in this post:

http://www.playpda.net/thread-37495-1-1.html

but you may register one ID for yourself.

sorry for my pool English!:mad:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chihliouma:
I've tried to dump out but fail. It pop out a screen ask me to input the device ID and then it come out the failure. Can you dump successfuly ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chihliouma:
please advice how you can dump out the EXT successfully ? 請教你如何dump出EXT檔案?謝謝
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ljankok:
I can try to dump when my download has finished

Now it is 3 days and 12 hours :)

Maybe it is faster to wait for BeeGee_Tokyo
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Here is the link to MultiUpload. You can select there between Multiupload, MegaUpload, Rapidshare, ....

I am at the moment in China and my download speed here in the hotel is around 20kB/s. So it will take another 1 hour before I have the file on my Netbook.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ljankok:
Thanks BeeGee_Tokyo :)

I hope you don't have to pay for the internet access :P
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
No, its complementary. And if, I would put it on my travel expenses, I am reading business emails here :rolleyes:

But its so slow. I used LogMeIn to remote control my home PC to download the file and then upload it to MultiUpload. Not possible from here.

Will later try to dump the ROM. But cannot upload the results, because it would take a day or so.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] huda:
You can use this tool,thanks bepe!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=572673

REN *.nbh FLASH.nbh

..\TOOLS\extract.exe FLASH.nbh

REN *OS.nb OS.nb

..\TOOLS\xidump.exe -b OS.nb
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chihliouma:
I am always using Visual Bepe's kitchen to dump the stock ROM and it work everytime except this time. You mean I cannot use the Visual Bepe's kitchen ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ljankok:
Newest manila 2.5 and newest drivers and kernel included!

I just dumped this original Topaz ROM and guess what?

Newest manila 2.5 and newest drivers and kernel included!

Time to cook :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Waaah, still downloading here.

What builds are in it?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chihliouma:
can you advice how to dump successfully ? I am using Visual Bepe's kitchen. Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] aaronyan116:
can anybody just briefly tell me how do you flash this rom?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ttppeewee:
Looking forward to test your new ROM:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Faramarzfa:
hi anyone

anyone test it yet??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] aaronyan116:
I just got some undefine file type, and I tried to name the file TOPAIMG.nbh, and it's not working...

can anyone just give me a guide?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
As far I can see

Build 21887

You can get EXT and OEM HERE, hope it's the same

The file downloaded it's 7Z, must be open with 7Z app,, then open again and dump, I use EVK Kitchen
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lapy:
hey guys, what base should i use to cook? Is the base provided with this rom good for our topaz? I saw that the model number in the OEM is T5363, so maybe it's a new model?

EDIT Just tried 2.54 base on my TOPA100 and it doesn't work..i went back to 2.18 base.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Already cooked, it's real nice and seems to be fast

One Note, do not use OEM/ROM 2.54, I've tried and hang on 1st screen, changed to a previous and boot ok

To publish in a few minutes
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
we might also need new HSPL in order to make the OEM/ROM work ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Cooked with a previous and works perfect, uploading now

Note there's two OemFlashDrive at OEMXIPKERNEL might be the problem
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
seems like a clone's ROM to me :confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Those two OEM_FlashDRV at OEMXIPKernel are strange, even with those removed no boot at all, once changed to another OEM/ROM files it works real nice

ALmost all EXT Packs are new (at least the numbers)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
thats what i meant earlier, if this ROM is also for our T5353 Topaz, then we need new HSPL to use the OEM/XIP from this ROM.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
I feel lucky not bricking my device, with 2.54, it stops at 1st screen and keeps rebooting
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
dont worry, HSPL comes to our rescue in such cases :D. i'll talk to Cmonex about this ROM and new SPL. this is bit like 1.33 HSPL not working on 2.17 or 2.18 Based ROMs
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] vadyarik:
Aman,

I think this ROM is designed for another device. Chipset specified in the description: ESM7206A.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Qualcomm ESM7206A 528 Mhz, at MAX 4G, maybe only the Ext packs are usable
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
yeah thats what i suspect as well :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] nhathoa:
Everything work perfectly on my Topaz with 2.19 Drivers. But with 2.54 OEMDrivers and OEMXipkernel it like Pisca reported. :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Also using OEMDrivers 2.19 only, not 2.19 OEMXIPKernel, and works perfect
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] nhathoa:
I mean it woks fine with 2.19 OEMDrivers and OEMXipkernel. :)

Btw, why have they(HTC or ...) publiced this Rom? And what is the device with model name Touch Diamond 2 T3563? :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Not tried OEMXIPKernel 2.19, only OEM Drivers 2.19

The question is how far is this rom a real one, or not, but the EXT packs look real good, even cooked with 23518, no position fix required
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lokura:
tnx for sharing

i dont care too much cause im not using it and my rom isnt public, but no footprints?, then is really a drivers problem?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] teetee1986:
huda!!!

nice to see u here. i am your rom user in China.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] slavislavi:
My topaz restarts constantly after flashing this rom.

I can see only splash (green htc on white) and reboots.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lapy:
This rom is not meant to be flashed on T5353 devices...at least for now.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] l3v5y:
Because more mirrors are always fun, here is another.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] slavislavi:
thread and the name is misleading
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Airpil:
If it is the official manila 2.5 for Topaz then it has support for Topaz video accelerator, isn't it ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] hanzi786:
My HTC Touch Diamond2 restarts constantly after flashing this rom ihave olinex 1.83 HSPL
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] madman_cro:
do you read posts above??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] hanzi786:
boss ican't get what really happening.. i am quite slow to understanding all these things.. please brother tell me the easiest way to install this rom on my phone
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Making this simple, do not flash this rom in Topaz/Diamond2
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mondilv:
:D

Good choice.

But packages structure is very useful for cooking now.

Closer to Leo.:p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] madman_cro:
so probably now you are stuck with this rom. what you need to do is next. download some other custom rom, find other way to put topaimg.nbh to yor memmory card and flash again.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Yes real usefull ;););)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chihliouma:
It seems no footprint for this Manila.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] dm03 shm3h:
So, what are you suggesting here. Offcourse I will use the EXT packages but how about the rest. What can be used & what can be excluded?

Thx.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
I use the whole Ext, and no problems at all
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] viz1977:
some screenshots pls?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Look HERE, cooked with this ROM/Ext
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] vadyarik:
OEMDrivers also fully compatible with our Topaz, and Camera and Dshow, EXT - full.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
SPL 2.52 is also compatible ;), but still the device wont boot :D. something wrong with the kernel i guess.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] arkavat:
hey Aman, are you using european Topaz or India Topaz? I mean is this ROM, in it's original form, working on India Topaz? ROM says it's for India and south Asia, so I guess it should at least work on India Topaz. If not.. some thing is fishy.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i've have indian version of topaz. u can flash it without a problem, but device doesnt boot and the main reason seems to be incompatibility with the kernel of this ROM.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ayl:
Dutty said the same before uploading of his latest test ROM.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Please read previous pages, not too much, all the answers are there
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] symeteor:
hi,

Some days ago I cooked a rom based on official 6.5 rom, using 2.16 driver, and it works fine.

Yesterday I tried to build my rom based on this one.

It seems that 2.54 driver is not working on D2, D2 will keep on restarting ..

so I using 2.16 driver instead of 2.54.

But it always hung at the screen 'setting up your phone..", I mean the screen that has a progress bar. Every time the progress bar comes to the end, the phone will hung....

Even though I'm only using the new ext files dumped from the Indian rom, it still hung.

Finally I found that if I use the 'Notification_Enhancement 2' which is included in Manila 2.1 to replace the 'Notification_Enhancement_3_0_1920_2427' dumped from the Indian rom, the cooked rom can start . But the Manila 2.5 can't start. There are always a message on screen said that 'tap here to start Manila..'

Can anybody help me?

Who can tell me how can I use the ext files dumped from the Indian rom?

Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] dm03 shm3h:
Use the same "Notification_Enhancement_3_5_20113127_00 package" but you have to recmod NTconfig module to file. Then check the Initflashfiles.dat
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] symeteor:
thanks.

it works.

But how about the 2.54 driver? How can I make it work on D2?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Pisca:
Please read 3 posts above before questioning, it's very clear,

No you can't use 2.54
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] vadyarik:
Not only works OEMXipkernel 2.54. OEMDrivers 2.54 and OEMXipkernel 2.19 working great!:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lapy:
hey mate, does 2.19 OEMXipKernel require WINCENLS? Cause i saw it's in another folder.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] opensea:
Hi,

Is there any news from olynex/olipro of a new hspl? As far as i know we need a new hspl to flash this rom directly. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chanvi93:
It's very strange i tried since 4 days to cook with oemxipkernel2.54 and 2.19 ,only the first page and reboot each time, would you like share yoyr secret Please? Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ramis7:
:rolleyes: Hi

I am also waiting new HSPL that makes this official rom possible to install.

hope we will hear from any chef soon.

I used cooked room of Dutty but its music menu and labrary tabs are not working. :mad:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ramis7:
Hi guys,

I got this link, is it helpful for new official rom?:)

Diamond - Olinex - Unsigned-Hspl-1.93 Jumpspl .zip download
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] opensea:
I think this hspl is for Diamond 1.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] vadyarik:
Nothing unusual. Probably, your problem lies elsewhere.

Use your old WINCENLS
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chihliouma:
For 2.54, I think yo need to change the NK.exe from other one, and hex to 2.54 right ?

here is the Chinese forum that mentioned about this. http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-3173-1-2.html
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] symeteor:
Thanks, it works now.

But I have 2 new questions.

1. I use the dumped file to build a new rom. Everything works fine.

But in start menu, I can't find the original link of ' Message', 'calendar'. There are only HTC message and HTC calendar. Although the HTC version is great, but I still need the old one.

How can I get back the old one?

2. I don't use Manila_Mail_2_5_20111612_0,Manila_People_2_5_20111710_2,Manila_Twitter_2_5_20111730_1,Manila_Stock_2_5_20111729_0 , but if I delete these files, Manila can't start.

But some guys said that these files can be deleted.

Any body can help?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chanvi93:
1. If you want the MS Text.lnk, delete "mxip_HTCMessage_0409.provxml" in HTCMessaging/0409, i don't know for calendar.

2. If you want delete or add somes tabs in Manila you must give instruction in Manila-Core the "26948339_manila" file, open with EdithPad and delete some entries.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] symeteor:
Thanks for your reply.

Now I removed twitter and Stock from Manila. But how can I remove facebook?

It seems that Facebook_Engine_1_1_19223127_01 is a must in Manila.

Without facebook engine, htc message has a problem that when select the icon in below picture, the htc message will hung and I'd have to restart.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] symeteor:
I also have a new question..

When I use htc messaging to create a new message, when I press OK or send, the screen will hung ....But I can also use start menu or other programes, but very very slow, and I can't use HTC messaging any more.

How can I fix it? Is that I missed any ext package?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] wwtwwt:
:pSupport HUDA! ! !
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] titan427m:
link isn't working :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
What is that ? Is it some speeder data transfer connection from HUSPA and HSPDA ?

Regards
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] nguyenhonganh:
I do have the same problem with my RUU flash with the new Rogers RUU. Stuck at 54% when device starts updating at step[4] "system". Phone will show "unzipping" for over an hour and eventually failed with error code [155].

I tried the Magic-RUU_Sapphire_ChungHwa_3.03.751.4_R_release_signed_NoDriver.exe but still the same problem. Can anyone help here?
[Imagio General] TheThenSome:
WM 6.5, HTC Imagio on Verizon

Recently, my HTC Imagio has started to launch the Messaging (Pocket Outlook) app randomly and without any input from me at all. Yes, I have an Exchange ActiveSync account as well as Hotmail Push setup but, again, this strange behavior only started a week or two ago and I have had Exchange ActiveSync setup for months. I have made it a point to make sure that Messaging/Pocket Outlook is completely closed down when I am through with it, but Messaging/Pocket Outlook continues to launch itself fully, without any input from me whatsoever.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
[Imagio General] kilroy1stcav:
I just started getting this when I added my yahoo account, never happened while using it to sync with my exchange server. so I am thinking it has something to do with adding a pop 3 account.
[Imagio General] TheThenSome:
Probs with Yahoo! Too

I have had unrelated problems with Yahoo! mail on my WM 6.5 HTC Imagio. With only an Exchange ActiveSync and Hotmail Push account running, however, does anyone have any clue as to why Messaging/Outlook Mobile would recently begin to launch by itself randomly?
[Imagio General] MarcValme:
Same here, very strange, I cannot notice a pattern, it just happens sometimes, I'm synced to an EXCHANGE server as well as hotmail
[Imagio General] kilroy1stcav:
I deleted my Yahoo account and Hotmail Account off the Phone and have not had it happen since. I still sync with my Company Server, but the app does not open by itself, so I am thinking it had something to do with the 5 minute sync for yahoo and/or hotmail accounts.
[Imagio General] Swarvey:
Just wondering if maybe Verizon or HTC has launched an over-the-air update to supposedly fix something, which has in turn broken email?

I don't know if it'll work, but a hard-reset or flashing back to stock ROM might help. If it does, then I'd sure be contacting HTC or Verizon to let them know their "fix" is systematically breaking phones.

Has anyone inquired as to wether or not any OTA updates have been applied by their carriers?
[Imagio General] gdahlberg:
Has anyone heard of any potential fix to this problem? I recently upgraded my Imagio's ROM to 3.04.605.7 -- it was only after that upgrade that Messaging started to open itself every five minutes when it checks my gmail account. I don't recall any of that happening under the OEM ROM. Any thoughts beyond downgrading to the last version?
[Hero CDMA General] acm2117:
what's it do? i see talk about it but have no idea what its for.
[Hero CDMA General] thecodemonk:
Comp(ressed) Cache

First two hits on google for "Compache":

http://android.teknologism.org/compcache/ (The Why)

http://code.google.com/p/compcache/ (The What)
[Hero CDMA General] theresthatguy:
the why, what, and how: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Compcache

how to reach the why, what, how: http://www.google.com
[Hero CDMA General] illogic6:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=compcache
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] fgadamwest:
I just got a nexus one and I'm currently in the process of finding apps that I would like to put on it. I've always enjoyed playing SNES and I wanted to put an emulator on my phone.

I got Snesoid and installed it without problems. When I try to load a rom it just goes back to the homepage. I have the roms saved in a folder on my microSD inside the "dcim" folder and then a folder called "snes roms".

Does anybody know how I can fix this problem to get the roms to work? It would be really appreciated.

EDIT: I found the answer, I needed to get version 1.3.11
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Unoid:
I Didn't even knew the emulators supported touchscreen only controls? did they get multiouch working i take it?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] fgadamwest:
Not yet but it should happen soon.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] fgadamwest:
bump

bump bump bump
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] PSYCHOtcb:
Why are you putting the roms in the camera folder? I do not have this app to test where it looks for the files, but that might be your problem.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tinbo:
Hi Guys !!

Can we modify the alignment of the icons on the start menu ??:p

Thank in advance
[Windows Mobile Software Development] 东方角:
yes ,it can

try this

hcomber
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tinbo:
Ni Hao !!

Sorry but I was maybe not clear enough !

I would like to put all icons in the same line (like Iphone aligment) :rolleyes: