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[Nexus One Themes and Apps] xManMythLegend:
Right. That is an inherent problem. But one that can be solved by adding a recent screen cap. The card doesnt necessarily have to be "live". Its for ease of use and better GUI.

No. Its not.

People are under the impression that you should run your system until theres no ram left.

You need free ram and frankly a decent amount of it. Apps dont use static amounts of memory , depending on whats going on it could fluctuate drastically. Waiting for the OS to free up ram by killing idle tasks is more time consuming that just utilizing whats available.

Lazy ?

The whole premise of good design is to make things easier. Your way is cumbersome and ugly to most no matter how comforting it is to you.

Staring at a bunch of folders and taking 4 steps to get to a prog you just closed would be insanely poor design sorry.

If you can make things easier ,more usefyl AND better looking youre doing it right.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] SilentMobius:
Ok, so you hold down home and get the last few applications in a card like view.

Easy enough to do.

What do those "cards" show? The current parent view of the app or the parent view state the last time you switched away from it? So the app may not be running, so we'll need to save a screenshot each time a process hibernates (anyone fancy adding that to the core framework?)

This is pretty much what you need to do due to the way android multi-tasks.

As to those people arguing that they want more free ram. being able to decide the "at least this much" threshold would be nice, would give the users a feeling of power back. Would it make much difference to the performance of the phone? I doubt it.

Yeah it really is, that why GNU/Linux uses free memory as disk cache, because its _that_ easy to free up the memory for usage when needed. Now if you're paging/swapping data out of memory that can cause performance burps when memory is freed swapping things back in, but Android doesn't do that, so unused memory is wasted memory.

Linux disk cache: http://www.linuxhowtos.org/System/Linux Memory Management.htm

Vista does it too: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/09/why-does-vista-use-all-my-memory.html
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] bobdude5:
Man i hope somebody makes this because it works amazing on my ipod touch..it is soooooo convenient..when im playing a game and i decide i want to check my facebook i hold the home button, the cards come up and i swipe to my facebook app and then i go back to my game

if a jailbroken ipod can do it with an OS that does not support multitasking with an app..i am positive a multitasking opensource OS can do it too
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] BrooklynAvi:
There is a flaw in your process. No matter how much eye candy you have, people will ALWAYS have to open new apps the way I described. No design will change that unless they can wire it into my brain. I have 300+ apps on my N1 that have to be organized in some manner. So at some point, when I have to open a new app, I'm going to need to do it exactly as I've described. All we are talking about here is a better way to access the currently running apps and I believe showing the ten or twelve most recently (rather than actually running) apps by long-pressing the home key would solve just about all the problems. Using the Pre is not any more intuitive than using the N1 when it comes to opening new apps. It may only be more useful--and I say may because it is, after all, a matter of taste--for opening currently running apps or the most recent apps. I personally like to see the most recent apps because they are usually either running or I'd like to go back to them quickly. I just think six is way too little.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] noodles12:
The n1. Doesn't need this guys. It already multitasksbettrr with more Apps than the pre. How hard is it to use Apps organizer, shortcut on home screen, and go to it.

What we need is more than just 6of our most recent apps when we hold home. Besides that, android isn't webos and it functions better the way it is. You really want 30 cards to pop up when you switch tasks?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] johnnie93:
Task OS is very close :-)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] aleitry:
not entirely on topic, but an iphone feature that I used quite a bit along with kirikae is spotlight. this is another swipe-to-invoke form that I liked quite a bit.

ultimately, anything that decreases the number of presses and flicks required to access a contact, song, application, etc - is very useful IMO.

so, of course, i'm liking gestures a lot. it's spotlight with finger writing recognition. it's fast and accurate. i'm pretty sure that folks would cry foul if android implemented the swipe to invoke feature - but that would be awesome.

i've got nothing substantial against shortcuts (which can of course be created to open gestures from the home screen), I just dig the notion of swiping or shaking even to invoke.

anyway, as offered today, gestures is already making navigation within 2.1 speedy and efficient. and no quadrillion cards to flip through as with web os - not that i ever had that many concurrent apps running on my 3gs. i always maxed out at 5-7.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] gunnner:
Swerving completely off topic, I just wish that it included mail. Then, as far as I can remember, it'd be roughly equivalent to Spotlight on the iPhone.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] johnnie93:
No progress on this?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] PhantomRampage:
What he said ^

There's gotta be someone out there working on something like this
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] johnnie93:
is there a way to use the desires multi touch pinch to zoom on the home screen so that instead of it showing the home screens it shows running applications?? probably easier then porting something that is not on the OS like the palm pre cards...only downside is that it will only be for desire roms ....unless someone can port it...

OR we can just ask the developer of the WebOS cards for the Iphone/ipod to help us. :)

just sharing my thoughts .
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jamezracer:
To get the screenshots the parts of the os that manage opening and closing apps would have to be modified since it is that low level function that would have to be interrupted to take the screenshot of the program before putting said program into standby. This would have to be a feature build deep into the os so it would have to be up to modders like cyanogen to implement into their custom roms. I just don't think the demand is high enough for that sort of effort.

A less memory and process intensive method would be a more streamlined and polished version of taskOS. Know that nice smooth springy animation that we get when tapping a contact's picture to bring up the shortcuts? Something like that on a larger scale with the current running app icons would make for a much more appealing user experience and make it seem like it was intended to be part of the os instead of a tacky add on. Don't get me wrong, it's useful, just not quite the polish that we are after :)
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] jettrue:
I found a program called "app launcher", I like it.

It puts an icon in the notification bar (and it has an option to be transparent so you don't have to always see it), you swipe down, click "app launcher", then you have your favorites there.

I like it because I don't have to have so many icons on my home screen. I'm more of a minimalist. And then I don't have to go searching alphabetically through my main launcher.

It does take a swipe, and then a click, so yeah, home screen shortcuts are faster, but I like just having my phone and messaging icon on my home screen (plus a sense-like clock), and that's it!

If the main launcher could auto sort applications by amount of use, that would be great! Then your most used would be right at the top.
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] king_of_freedom:
Hi all, does anybody know, if there is an app for using SE Chatpen CHA-30 in WM? It's working in 'stupid' phones, but can't get it work in Symbian, WM and others..
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mtstmp:
DO NOT TRY THIS ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN WINDOWS MOBILE VERSION 6.5.3 OR HIGHER! IT CONSISTS OF A .DLL FILE DEVELOPED AFTER WM 6.1! YOU WILL DISABLE FEATURES!

I love using Mobile Shell 3.5.3, and I love using Windows Mobile 6.5.3, but the facebook and twitter widgets would not connect for me. I kept getting the error cannot connect. It was driving me nuts and forcing me to switch to a regular 6.5 rom. I figured out that 28002 was the last 6.5.3 build that these widgets worked on, so I pulled some packages out and added them to the new builds and viola! it worked. I've narrowed it down to the webview.dll file. This works fine for me when I cook it in, and I've tested the cab a few times. The widgets can connect now, and Internet Explorer doesn't seem to be affected. I don't use it all that often so I can't really say for sure if it makes a huge difference.

The cab is hard-coded to go to the windows directory and cannot be uninstalled. So this is kind of a one-time deal.

This is only a test and will need some feedback from others before we can call this one a sure thing.

BACKUP YOUR PHONE BEFORE YOU TRY!

I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THIS MAY DO TO YOUR PHONE!

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

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[Windows Mobile Software Development] mtstmp:
i'm guess i'm the only one with this problem?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] burtcom:
I'm using a 28205 6.5.3 build, and the Facebook widget works fine for me.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bipinsen:
No you're not. People are all over SPB developers behind in the SPB forums. So far they have just said that they are looking into it.

I'll back up my phone now and try this. Is there a manual way of uninstalling and getting back to the old settings?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bipinsen:
So no luck. I am using build 23037 and the Facebook screen still keeps getting the "Retry" button. Internet Explorer seems to work ok.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Absynthe:
I actually receive the same error, yet it updates my status anyway.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JOeS:
It works! It opens my default browser and there's a message about a bug in the application, therefore I cannot log in. But when I try again to open Facebook in SPB Mobile Shell it logs in. :D

My ROM: Energy.KOVSKY.23519.Leo_04.Feb.2010

Thx a lot man!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] formula84:
I too have a 23519 build this seems to have worked for me although only for google and facebook widgets the twitter does not say fail to connect any longer but it just sits on a white screen anyone else?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] clintonwes:
I'm have ing the very same issue using Flame build 23529.

Twitter widget sometimes say failed to connect with a retry button, sometimes it just displays and white screen and hangs the mobile, requiring me to pull out the battery. :(

I'm downloading the patch now! Will let you guys know how it goes.:D

WOOHOO!!!

It works!!

Thanks mtstmp!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] royalgold323:
WICKED!!! IT workedd!! you're a genius, i love the facebook feature of spb mobile shell too =D THANK YOU SO MUCHHHHHHHHH
[Windows Mobile Software Development] f0vela:
Amazing :D this solved the problem for me too :D :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ranasrule:
thank .....works like a charm
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jphni12:
My facebook works fine but twitter has never worked. I get a range of errors error 403, error 406, white screen or a twitter message about the page being invalid.

I tried installing this fix but its still not working. I have tried all the cookies etc.

Im using an hd2 with a cooked rom (WM6.5.5)

any other ideas?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ljinsane:
man ...thank YOU and F SPB :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Saitek009:
Works perfectly. Thank you!

Twitter's still borked though. After login and confirm it says sending you back to application and proceeds to lock up. :confused:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Kellicros:
Thanks for the great work, FYI, this also fixed FIM's internal browser on 6.5.3.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tmacgarris6727:
still does not work

im using kumar rom 1.3 for tmobile and it does not work
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Keland44:
thanks man this seems to be working for me I can at least get to internet explorer to log into facebook now i wasn't able to before. big thanks for that i can at least add pictures to my contacts now using facebook
[Windows Mobile Software Development] 95FormulaTA:
Just gave it a shot and I also got the white screen. It also dissabled explorer for me. Used SK tools to uninstall and explorer up and working again. For now..... Thanks for working on this problem.

Stock 6.1 Rom on Vouge
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Giannacl:
it doesnt work for me...

I have a Palm treo pro and until last week both twitter and FB widgets worked fine. Now, no matter what, they won't connect. I tried using this cab but just got the white screen and stop IE for working properly, so I deleted and IE got back to normal. Thanks anyway...

Anything else we can try to make these widgets work?:confused:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] coquipr:
m going to try it
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Mega Maniac:
What did you uninstall with SK to remove this. I'm just getting a white screen when I try to connect to facebook with the widget now. Thanks.

Edit: sorry, just had a bit of a dig with SKtools and it was there to remove in installed programs, you put me on that track tho, so thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Mega Maniac:
Ok, so everyone seems to be having this problem with the facebook widget but it seems my problem is a little different.

For me when I log in via the facebook app it asks me for my name and password then logs in and says "you may now close this window and use the facebook app" or along those lines. Except when i close the window and use the widget it just goes back to the enter username and password page. very infuriating...

anyone else having the problem manifest in this way?

Edit: One day I'll stop answering my own questions.

I solved my own problem by going into IE deleting cookies and brousing history, logging in, hitting the home button on my phone (i.e.NOT exiting IE) then using the facebook widget in SPB, which then logged into facebook and asked me to confirm the SPB widget application. Now my phone logs in with one touch allowing me to update my status.

Sorry for my stupidity, perhaps it will benefit someone else who shares this trait with me.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] choco376:
You made my day.... it worked like a charm :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] perern:
dont work

it doesnt work on my diamond 2.

plz tell me how to install it properly
[Windows Mobile Software Development] globularfunk:
Thanks for the Uninstall fix + SK Tools is the ****!!! I almost freaked out when I installed this and then could not view emails from outlook. FB still was not fixed (white screen) Not dissing the creator of the cab and glad it works for some but not on LG Expo's with SPB Mobile Shell 3.:eek:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] woodgrain816:
installed it.

got a white screen everytime I tried to log in to facebook or twitter

uninstalled it.

The only way I can get my status update **** to work is to click on someone's contact info and set their picture thru facebook. It'll ask me to log in, but for some reason, it works! Then the status updater works. Now i gotta figure out how to make the twitter update work
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chromerepublic:
iv installed the fix and it only takes me to a white screen and does nothing. im using winmo 6.1 version on the HTC Mogul. how do i fix this problem?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mrkevo3000:
I was having the same problem and did what u did to solve the problem it updates the contacts and so on buttt......... the problem im having is when i go back to the widget it asks me for the the info alll over again and then asks the facebook ms question then im good! but when i go back to update my status it asks everything all over again!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] panapower:
I'm quite new here but i'd tinkered around the phone for a bit. I'd like to get this application running so that i can tap a contact and then ask for facebook which then will use the pictures from it.

The only device that i have CeRedEditor. Will this program help me restore my settings if something happens and can this cab be removed if I install it? Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] panapower:
well i tried this cab on my expo and it didnt work. Now all i get is a white blank screen whenever i press the facebook app. another thing that it does is that my alerts, wether its a wireless network or email or IM, it just shows me a blank box with no information on it. I'm going to have to try to uninstall this thing. :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] panapower:
not only does that cab not work but it also disabled my text messaging. wtf!?!?!? :mad: any assistance on getting my text messaging back at least?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chromerepublic:
i had to uninstall the .cab file to get my internet working again. the file doesn't do anything. i hope they fix this cab soon. :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mtstmp:
the cab is just one file, webview.dll. something to do with pocket IE. it enables log ins on some builds, and not on others. if at first the widget says connection error, then try the cab, then open IE, log in to facebook.com, keep the browser open, then try the widget again. in some builds, i could log in from the widget no problem. in the latest builds, i always have to log in on IE first, then the widget works. they must be evolving security for IE and changing things. this file shouldn't have anything to do with messaging, so I would try other things if yours is broken.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] panapower:
yep, i tried that already with logging in through the net and then launching the facebook app from SPB. nothing.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chromerepublic:
after all that, still nothing different. i hope there is a fix coming. :confused:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] goninph:
Test Mobile Shell 3.5.4:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chromerepublic:
thanx man.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] everwerever:
it worked for me! thanks a lot
[Windows Mobile Software Development] electrikjesus:
Confirmed, This works on my rhod210 on T-Mobile running SPB MS3.5.4!!

Happy Day!

EDIT: Twitter widget hangs on a blank screen after the connecting screen.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] timsah:
The Update 3.5.4 didn't change anything on my device (HD2) but the cab did. Thanks a lot mtstmp!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] SupraFast:
Does anyone have a fix for this?

1. The cab gives me the white screen. So I uninstalled the cab.

2. I tried clearing history, cookies, cache.

3. I tried logging in with IE and then logging in with the widget while IE is opened.

Nothing works. I click on the Facebook app and it asks me to login. So I enter my info and it opens up a browser. It asks me to login again so I do and then I get to my facebook home page in the browser...and that's it. It just leaves me there as if I were going to view the facebook site (i don't see anything about the spb mobile). So, I exit the browser and it leaves me at the login screen again asking for my info and etc. Just an endless circle.

What I did notice is that when I login to my application settings in facebook, I do see the SPB mobile app there, but it doesn't seem to do anything lol.

I'm using the Spring HTC Touch Pro 2 with the the latest rom update from HTC:

Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional CE OS 5.2.21889 (Build 21889.5.0.87)

I'm using SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 Build 9885
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nmhai3:
worked

it works!

using 3.5.3 build 9885 and 23563,

i has problem, i googles yoos, installed, i no longer has probrem

great detective work! thank you.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jonahy:
Twitter no luck

Fb works , Twitter can't even show in IE error 406 hence cant work in SPB but can login use Opera.

HD2 winmo 6.5.3
[Windows Mobile Software Development] xxlagunaxx:
thank you so much, been looking for a solution to this.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] EnriqueMx1:
Just perfect

Prefect, this solved all the problems !!! THANKS !!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] soylatino:
Thank youuuuuuuuuu veryyy much!!!!!!!!!! more than 3 hours searching for this!!! Really thank u man you re really nice!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Jeepin' Rock Climber:
Works like a charm for me! Using NRG Rom's latest (7/14/10?) Titanium rom for the D2/Pure.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bigga29:
Does this work with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.5 ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Eternity-3D:
Having an issue but with 6.5 not 6.5.x

hello mtstmp

i am having a problem with the blank webpages on facebook IM

but i dont have 6.5.X i have 6.5 only

i am using energy's latest rom on sprint TP2

can you help me already tried cab in post #1 and no luck :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kk1973:
It's work! thank you very much :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] shougo93:
Works perfectly. thanks =D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Meradin:
I think I solved problem, I had same problem that connection to facebook. However, I tried everything; different version of mobile shell, this patch etc. On the other hand, when I change version of Net. Framework to 3.5, my problem was solved
[Windows Mobile Software Development] halliehal:
sorry if i sound dumb but where did you put the download that was provided? i put it into the file on my phone and it still doesnt work..
[Windows Mobile Software Development] thekrautdog:
no workie

Hello mtstmp, I just want to make sure you know I appreciate the effort to help by making this cab and sharing it with us, although it did not work for me. I wouldn't post just to complain it didn't work, but I think maybe you are nonetheless interested in our experience. In my case after installing your cab fix I am not getting the white screen, it does the exact same thing as always - "connection failed-retry". I have tried every single combination of suggestions re: IE, this cab, going thru contacts for FB picture, nothing changes from connection failed retry. I mean it's not the end of the world, we have other ways of accessing facebook, but this widget would indeed be nice to have. Thanks for working on a fix, I hope we can get this working. Actually what I really wish is for SPB to put out a fix, but I know they are busy working on the next version of MS. All the Best.

Oh BTW I have a Sprint TP2 running pavanmaverick's SPBMS 6.5.X rom
[Windows Mobile Software Development] thekrautdog:
just trying to help

you need to run the file and install it. Find where you put the .cab file on your phone and click (or double-click depending on your file explorer) on the cab file and install the fix onto your phone.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Thunderer64:
Same here - no longer crashing SPB but not able to connect to facebook! thanks for your effort.

(BTW just trying out SPB - lloks good ;))
[Windows Mobile Software Development] prospeed:
No, but you don't need this fix for SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.5.

Just try to set Internet Explorer (IE) as you default browser.

I am not sure if you have to log on facebook first via IE to get the widget to work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] HTC_HD2_PrOuD_UsEr:
Hi, :) I was wondering if SPB Backup will do the job when it comes to backing up? And I really hope this works! :p

Edit: Nope! Doesn't work. Dunno why. I just get the white screen. Restoring Backup...