yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
@danse: Thank You!!!!! KingKlick/HeroOver's Rom is quite good. I mean very good. Scored some high benchmarks too (132.4 on gpu, very high, and 16.4 on file system. Scored another record on Write speed, like 1 sec and change IIRC). And there's no Jit present. Whole Rom, looks like Manups early's. I mean you can blatantly tell its manups, from the pulldown bar to the LWP he loaded in his early Eclairs. Appears to be a cooked cooked Rom. Not bad overall. But I feel the OE devs have a different dev style that could turn out faster and more stable in the long run.
[G1 Android Development] naguz:
Listen suckers

Can people who use backup/restore apps stop whining untill they have done a full wipe+install with the same problem sill there?

Restore settings from a diferent type of ROM (or even the same type of ROM) can cause problems.

Restoring the Market db can surely cause problems.

Restoring browser data can cause FCs

Restoring data for "system apps" included in the builds, or the apps themselves, can cause FCs.

Restoring pretty much anything except third party apps and their data can cause FCs and instability. And even some of them takes restoring badly, and should be reinstalled.

For those of you who are a bit dense: Restoring can cause problems

An of course, themes=problems.

If you have problems:

1: Wipe ext, dalvik and factory reset

2: Reflash the ROM

3: Don't flash any themes, just reboot

4: Don't restore ANY backups. See if your problem is still there.

Is it still there? If so:

1: Check if your issue is noted on the issue tracker.

2a: If it is, grab a logcat - ANYONE CAN DO THIS -YOU DON'T NEED ADB. There is an app in the market called LogCollector ffs, USE IT) and reply to the issue with any relevant info, and attach the log

2b If it isn't, grab a logcat - ANYONE CAN DO THIS -YOU DON'T NEED ADB. There is an app in the market called LogCollector ffs, USE IT) and create a new issue with any relevant info, and attach the log.

If you fail to do this, go back to an official ROM from HTC or Tmo or whatever, and stop wasting everyones (especially the devs) time. You will not be missed.

I hereby release the above text under the following license:

You can paste this into any OP in any forum to tell idiots what to do. Not only "can" you do this, but you should. Really. Some changes to seem like less of an ass is OK, as long as the meaning of the text remains.

It is also OK to paste this into a post when you are telling people off for not doing this procedure, even if it is mentioned in the OP. Changes to the text to bee more of an ass, and trying to make them feel stupid and worthless are not only allowed, but appreciated by the author.

Spelling and grammar errors are OK to correct.

And apart from that, you an do what you want with it. :P
[G1 Android Development] zyssai:
Hi!

sorry but can't read 90 pages ^^

need to wipe from 1.1.1 to 1.1.3?

tks!!
[G1 Android Development] daveerickson:
Cool thing, you don't have to read 90 pages. There is a forum tool called "Search this Thread" at the top. Feel free to use that instead of reading for hours. :)

To answer you from personal experience, which you would also find if you searched, is I had slowness and force closes until I wiped from 1.1.1 to 1.1.3. However, my life has become MUCH easier since using Titanium Backup to backup and restore after a wipe. Maybe it could work for you.
[G1 Android Development] 2dorr:
Any word about Live Wallpapers on OpenEclair? I mean a working version like 1.0.1. I still use that version and I am very happy with it. It must be a super new version in order for me to put on my G1, and mostly a version with Live Wallpapers working.
[G1 Android Development] daveerickson:
They kind of work, at least some from the market do. I don't believe any that are shipped with the rom work. I have had luck with Starfield, and a friend of mine likes Earth Rotation. They are not super efficient and generally just a drain on the system. Once there are proper video drivers and the load is on the GPU it may make sense to use them on a G1/MT3G. My .02.
[G1 Android Development] :
Flashed back from 1.1.1 to 1.0.1, more stable, smooth and responsive.

On the matter of wipe... If it's a must to wipe before every upgrade, I hope that there will be longer time between each stable release. It's not fun having to configure again every 2 weeks.

I understand that we're NOT required nor forced to flash every upgrade. But you know... It's hard to resist the geek-desire... : )

BTW, is there a way to receive files via Bluetooth with this ROM...?
[G1 Android Development] naguz:
/Agree

Don't know, but if you have wifi, you can send files to it wirelessly using Swiftp.
[G1 Android Development] daveerickson:
There's a free app called Bluetooth File Transfer by Medieval Software. Works well for me.
[G1 Android Development] Niksac:
Dudes :()

where is telnetd gone ?

Nik
[G1 Android Development] mdomski:
Duplicate Ringtones

I did do a wipe and duplicate default android ringtones are duplicated, not a big deal just mentioning it.
[G1 Android Development] mdomski:
Nice work open dev team!!!

The overall opinion after the 30 minutes is NICE!!!!
[G1 Android Development] thepoetvd776:
So far this is the fastest Eclair rom I have tried. I'm sticking with OpenEclair 1.0 for now though, because the latest feels laggy.

Other than though, it runs flawless.
[G1 Android Development] vkchetty:
Comparison

How does this ROM do compared to KingKlick's Eclair ROMs? I would greatly appreciate your inputs.

Thanks!
[G1 Android Development] gregnotcraig:
After a couple days of running OpenEclair, I'm very pleased. Very.

Memory management seems to be better than other ROMS, but that could be just a matter of perception, though.

I DO miss AdvancedLauncher (being able to hide apps I don't use -like email, superuser,etc- is nice, but not enough to go back to Donut. :D

Anybody willing to port it? I seem to recall reading that it is compiled against the source of the kernel, not "standalone" code, so it could be done, yes?

There is an app on the market called ExtendedHome that offers much of AdvancedLauncher's functionality, claiming to be for 2.0 or better, but it FCs on OE right out of the gate.
[G1 Android Development] doalittledanse:
After a day of 1.1.3 I'm going back to 1.1. It slows down too much. I miss JIT
[G1 Android Development] Major_Skidmark:
I agree. 1.1.3 lags a little. I feel 1.01 was much more stable. JIT gave me no troubles at all.
[G1 Android Development] sisterchick:
Battery life short

I have noticed that 1.1.3 seems a bit rough on the battery. Into the yellow from full charge in 5 hours with no talk time. Reinstalled Power Manager to see if that helps.
[G1 Android Development] gregnotcraig:
just an observation...

It seems to me that most of the complaints about OE lagging are coming from those running it on a g1.

there's a reason tmobile/google arent going to release a 2.1 update for the g1.

said users might be better off with a different, optimized, eclair rom or sticking with Donut, or ramping up the swap/compcache, etc.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Or making their own personal tweaks ;)
[G1 Android Development] gregnotcraig:
but that requires effort. compile your own rom and who would you complain to? :D
[G1 Android Development] Jonathan062:
Compcache

Hi New guy here,I've had 1.0.1 for a while now experimenting with it and its freaking awesome. I've been playing with compcache and have not noticed any difference anybody gain anything with it? Keeping home app in memory helped alot but i see nothing with compcache. Also a little off topic since I'm new to rooting and all this great stuff, I have a question about my apps on the sd card they do not show in my downloads. atrackdog say there are updates but i cannot update them. I have tried to research before i ask but i can't find anything. any answers greatly appreiated. + thanks to all the DEV's
[G1 Android Development] daeshawn:
This is what i love to see!!!
[G1 Android Development] jerhoyet:
Hey there, love the ROM, but I have a question. I was just checking out the build.prop file to see if you guys had included the RIL hacks to assist in 3G throughput and I see that you did, however, these two values don't make sense:

Shouldn't they be:
[G1 Android Development] Morrolan:
In terminal:

cp /sdcard/Launcher.apk /system app/Launcher.apk

Cannot create '/system/app/Launcher.apk':file exists

In ADB:

adb push Launcher.apk /system/app/

failed to copy 'Launcher.apk' to '/system/app/' Read only file system

In Astro:

failed to copy file.

ADB is running as root.

Yes, USB debugging is on.

Superuser says I have root access. Yet I don't. What's going on?
[G1 Android Development] Morrolan:
In terminal:

cp /sdcard/Launcher.apk /system app/Launcher.apk

Cannot create '/system/app/Launcher.apk':file exists

In ADB:

adb push Launcher.apk /system/app/

failed to copy 'Launcher.apk' to '/system/app/' Read only file system

In Astro:

failed to copy file.

ADB is running as root.

Yes, USB debugging is on.

Superuser says I have root access. Yet I don't. What's going on?

OpenEclair 1.0, 1.01, 1.1.1 all react the same.
[G1 Android Development] user1911:
All i see is that you miss to remount the filesystem: adb remount. And after that you should be able to adb push...
[G1 Android Development] Morrolan:
I didn't add that in my post. I am mounting first. I'm going to completely wipe my sdcard and start from the beginning with a radio and spl install. Unless something is lingering after the wipe, I am at a loss.

EDIT:Completely reformatting the sdcard worked. WTF?
[G1 Android Development] :
How so...? I can only send files, but not receive.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Heres a little metamorph I made. It is the Nexus Launcher, and while there are plenty of these, this fixes the cosmetic problem where all landscape icons were sideways. There are a few things that need to be fixed (Trashcan not lining up with the 9 dot tray handle), but they are only noticeable to an OCD brain like mine. http://www.4shared.com/file/216958192/413cfb37/nexus_Launcher.html
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
For those of you who want that sexy Nexi boot animation:

Grab the attached .zip file, and unzip it (for adb to the desktop, for terminal to the root of your sdcard).

Then in adb:

cd desktop

adb remount

adb push bootanimation.zip /system/media

adb push bootanimation /system/bin

adb shell

chmod 0755 /system/bin/bootanimation

reboot

In terminal:

rwsystem

cp /sdcard/bootanimation.zip /system/media

cp /sdcard/bootanimation /system/bin

chmod 0755 /system/bin/bootanimation

reboot

All done
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
OpenEclair v1.1.4 just released, not a STABLE build, they are still calling it beta but check it out. I am unsure why this thread hasnt been updates, they have released a few beta builds over the past few days, you just need to follow the Twiiter acct to get them

beta v1.1.4 http://bit.ly/diTRuR

OpenAndroidTeam http://twitter.com/OpenAndroidTeam
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
They only release stable builds in the thread. The betas are special treats for their Twitter followers
[G1 Android Development] guitargler:
Wow, this is pretty awesome. Don't think I'll be updating just yet, I'm happy with 1.1.3, but it's good to see they're still improving on it. This ROM is amazingsauce.

And JAg, awesome changes. Just applied them.
[G1 Android Development] crypysmoker:
rather then wonder why its not updated here.. use logical thinking to why its only released on twitter. Followers are testers.. and 1.1.4 is AWESOME and very VERY stable. With what WG did with it, I do belive it should be the next stable release. Hell, even my fireworks LWP is flying now with no wipe from 1.1.3
[G1 Android Development] crypysmoker:
Woot.. you are awesome. Works. Only once using metamorph with launcher all widgets dissapeared. Oh well.. Still looks better :)
[G1 Android Development] Biodome:
Is Androidspin down for anyone else.
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
I thought that maybe, it actually that makes complete sense. I do follow their twitter acct.

I about to try 1.1.4 in few minutes, I didnt think 1.1.3 was a good as it should of been, a little rickety, but its good to see rave reviews about

v1.1.4 im kinda psyched now
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I know I'm awesome, and yes that happens with metamorph unfortunately when messing with the Launcher

AndroidSpin is back now

It's good
[G1 Android Development] bijanian:
Can anyone using this Tom tell me if it has multi touch or the 3d gallery?
[G1 Android Development] g2crx:
DUDE DO SOME READING MAN. Your in every thread asking the same questions that's been asked MILLION TIMES. Like some said you might be better off going with a Donut ROM. Since you don't wanna read how to partion your card and stuff. My sig has the common problems with Eclair. SMH
[G1 Android Development] user1911:
Not for me. 1.1.4 is running smooth, but now i have two gallery icons in launcher. Under 1.1.3 there were two map icons *g

Edit: Got some double entries all over the system. gonna wipe and reflash, but overall 1.1.4 seems nice to me
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
They included the 3d gallery (It should be the second icon)
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Why didn't anybody tell me the nexus lwp's were back in 1.1.4!?
[G1 Android Development] Temporarily:
1.1.4 is a little bit better than previous releases. But, let's be honest... This ROM is somewhat of a chore to use. It's still slow, buggy, and laggy. Icons get caught up when trying to drag and drop them, icons still keep getting deleted from the home screen, and when it's syncing, you can't use the phone for ANYTHING. It's hard to use this as anything but a frustrating toy for a few minutes at a time, especially coming from WG Build Y 2.6. Hero_Over's was still faster and less frustrating to use than Open Eclair. Sorry guys. I have faith though! Keep up the team work.
[G1 Android Development] mdomski:
Found the issue I believe, in CM there was an add-on update to restore audio resources. Second time around I skipped adding this to CM first.

No more duplicates!!!!
[G1 Android Development] cityeyes:
Try using it after a few reboots. For some reason every build of OpenEclair that I've used drastically improved after a day or so of use. No idea why this is, but it's generally true.

For the last build, I almost gave up on the benefits of Eclair and went back to Cyanogen, but when I woke up the next morning and freshly rebooted, everything was at least within manageable levels. Not as fast as Cyanogen, but still worth the troubles for the multi-email inbox and some of the other benefits.
[G1 Android Development] thenameismax:
why dont you just flash the rom and look for your self? Is it that hard for you to do that?
[G1 Android Development] crypysmoker:
my god..

seriously.. this is a rom.. being buit from pieces of a NOT RELEASE rom. 2.1 isnt out .. and these guys have made it fully functioning. I have been using it since the beginnig and every update has goten better. Calls come through, pages swipe..

If its that bad.. then go back to your 1.6 roms.. Comparing 1.6 and 2.1 is just assinine since 1,6 has been out for sometimes to reverse engineer to what it is now.. 2.1 IS NOT OUT YET.
[G1 Android Development] crypysmoker:
Huh.. I see smoke and the waves that have allways been there.. but no others, did I do somethign wrong lol. I have my market lwp, but no nexus sparkely, grass, galaxy etc...
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I'm using the Nexus one now, wonder what makes them think I'm so special...
[G1 Android Development] satbir7:
fast.....

just flashed 1.1.4, ... the speed is amazing.....

you can easily feel the diff. between 1.1.1 and 1.1.4....

Keep up the good work.......
[G1 Android Development] Temporarily:
Well I was really comparing Open Eclair to Hero_Over's last release. That's a 2.1 to 2.1 comparison, so no thank you for your response.
[G1 Android Development] user1911:
i've got duplicate entries for the ringtones after installing 1.1.4 and didnt apply the CM Audio reources, so i unzipped the 1.1.4 and in media directory some files exits as ogg and as mp3 file. Can anyone of you confirm this?

I thank you for your comparison, but i think you can stop comparing in this thread. The only information i've got so far from you is that oe is running slow for you and that is no help for me neither for others and especially not for the developers, cause you dont get us detailled background information or any else useful detail. So i wish you move on to Hero_Overs Rom and be happy...
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
And for the non-believers (or to make sure I'm not crazy)
[G1 Android Development] Firerat:
did you wipe SD:ext before flashing zip?

edit: Just done a clean install, no your not crazy
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I didn't wipe between 1.1.3 and .4, no
[G1 Android Development] fatduke720:
After flashing 1.1.4 I have no data connection. There is no 3G or 2G connections . Does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it?
[G1 Android Development] WiPPaH:
I had the same, I had to manually enter the APK settings for my network.

Works well when its done though!
[G1 Android Development] ultra spikey:
I get the same thing too, no data = no signing in. I'm guessing you need to flash a previous version before 1.1.4?
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
yep 2 gallery icons, also it didnt automatically register my APN settings, me being on AT&T is a pain in butt to manualy do it. And they did leave out the regular wallpapers, but the Nexus One live wallpaper is back in this build
[G1 Android Development] conorkickass:
Betas and such are posted on androidspin.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=264

For those of you who haven't given into twitter.
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
@JAG: sweet stuff dude. Installed the nexus boot anim via rootexplorer and worked great. Got your themed launcher on my .3 too. You ever think abt taking a swing at the purdy 5 dot launcher? Yes, that is the technical name. I looked it up.
[G1 Android Development] :
There is problem with camera(not working)-beta OpenEclair1.1.4
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Nah, I could add the dots but they would not move as you swiped screens. And it is technically the Launcher2 :b
[G1 Android Development] Morrolan:
What detailed information would you like to have? The Hero_Over Eclair ROM does many things so much better than OpenEclair, yet every time it's mentioned, posters ignore its existence. For one, the default LWP's worked out of the box. It's snappier to use. It's easier to customize without breaking things. If you want detailed information, ask about something specific. One of the reasons OpenEclair is more appealing is that Hero_Over stopped development on his ROM. So, rather than push people away, how about communicate with them and work to make this one better.

What good is a community ROM if the best parts of other ROMs in the community are completely ignored?
[G1 Android Development] sagementor:
I have the same issues with the v.1.1.4 beta

- camera FC

- two "gallery", one classic + one 3d. the 3d is horribly slow on my g1

http://code.google.com/p/openeclair/issues/detail?id=123&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Owner%20Component%20Summary

- app icons disappear, and need two runs to launch apps

http://code.google.com/p/openeclair/issues/detail?id=122&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Owner%20Component%20Summary
[G1 Android Development] neok44:
hey, i'm getting ready to give this rom a shot though.

but i have a couple quick questions.

i need my phone to work and be able to get calls/e-mails/SMS/MMS without any issues. Should i go with the 1.1.1 stable or should i go with the latest 1.1.4.

i've been reading and a lot of you seem to really like the 1.1.4 beta so hence my question.

Secondly, are there any good metamorphs for this? specifically a black hero style notification bar hopefully. And will cyanogen metamorphs work for specific apps such as the phone.apk and contacts.apk?

and is there any easy way to get the nexus boot animation? metamorph perhaps?

thanks in advance and can't wait to get this loaded up
[G1 Android Development] crypysmoker:
so did you wipe all and ext to get them to show? if so then I guess im gonna have to wipe it down and reinstall.
[G1 Android Development] TemporalShadows:
It's all about how much space is needed in /system. The DangerSPL increases /system to 92160k total space, up from the 69120k total on the stock spl. OpenEclair currently uses 77712k of space on /system on my phone, which means it is too large to fit on the stock SPL.
[G1 Android Development] jairomeo:
Just FYI, I tested my Ice 2.0 MetaMorph theme port and it does work on this ROM.
[G1 Android Development] 2dorr:
I don't have problems when going into security & location in settings.
[G1 Android Development] zeppelin481:
This is one of the issues listed on the issue tracker (there is a link in the OP for those who want to check it out). Wes is working to make sure it comes in under the 69M mark
[G1 Android Development] youngrony:
ANYONE

is this ROM really faST???
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
Why not try it out yourself?
[G1 Android Development] jaeX2:
agreeeed. it flies ! THANKS Community.. :D
[G1 Android Development] cigar3tte:
So far seems fast enough for me. Perhaps not as fast as Super D, but fastest Eclair I've tried.
[G1 Android Development] cagaagac:
I just flashed this ROM and got what I expected to find: A fast and stable Eclair-ROM!

Keep the good work up!
[G1 Android Development] :
Wow...this is really great...

I moved from King's ROM and I find the OpenEclair faster than all Eclair ROMs...

Thanks a lot guys for the brilliant work...
[G1 Android Development] shafty023:
My $0.02

Here are my thoughts on a community ROM.

Pros

With more developers on board, issues can be tackled quicker

With a single ROM to develop on per Android release (Donut, Eclair, Froyo) we can have a BASE for themers and custom ROMs to be built off of.

A single issues tracker so we don't have the same issue repeated in every single Eclair thread by a select few.....you know who you are ;)

Code improvements/ideas are already being shared among the various Eclair ROMs anyways

Cons

Ultimately the style and architecture of the ROM will be decided by the creator (ctso I'm not singling you out in any way). This includes things such as the use of /etc/init.d vs putting start scripts in /system/bin, or including Exchange support via the Motorola framework libs & MotoCAL/MotoGAL.

Loss of freedom as we would be switching to a review based code submission.

Rather than base Open Eclair off Intention, it should have been collaborated with all other Eclair builds to grab all the bug fixes into one build. Such as Location fix that is already in King's ROM for example.

With that being said I think working on a community ROM would be best suited to serve as a BASE for other Eclair ROMs to be built off. The only parts that come to mind would be system apps/framework/libs and boot.img. This is where the bug fixing & speed improvements come from.

I don't think we as a community should move towards just one single community ROM. We should look at building a community ROM that can then branch out for individual developers to continue doing what they do best and that's create custom ROMs with their personal touch and feel.

Picture this, if we went to a single ROM with a single theme do you know what that would turn into? The iPhone, yup you guessed it. Where everything is predictable and stable but boring and not custom.

Anyways there's my $0.02 thought about it. If the maintainers agree with this philosophy and are comfortable with this serving as a central location to do bug fixing/speed improvements and having those changes propagate to custom ROMs then I'm on board :) And of course for those wishing to stick with this vanilla build they could most certainly do, but at the same time would have the option to move to a custom ROM based off this one.