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[Windows Mobile Software Development] aussiebum:
Hmm, tried the test exe but can't seem to trigger the tap and hold feature. Is it supposed to be only for the single finger gestures, or is there a specific area I need to hold on the screen?

Thx
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
No, it's only for the mt gestures. Just tap one finger on the screen and do the gesture shape with the other finger. Then release the tapped finger and the mt gesture should be recognized. There is no specific area where you have to tap.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
Okay, got it!

Can you also enlighten me as to what this 'tap and hold' feature is I see mentioned in the thread? I didn't manage to find out by messing about. :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
great ! with this option, no way to get wrong ! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Akademist101:
i dont have a pentrac.dll in windows
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, can you go a little bit more in detail? Which version did you install? The Cabs should always contain the PenTrac.dll and the LMT.exe. Did you forget to activate "Show all files" in explorer?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Akademist101:
assigning programs

the learn mode doesnt assign the programs i do besides the task manager and file explorer.

ive reinstalled a few times from before where it wouldnt on any.

when i assign it through registry how do i set it up? do i do the filepath towards the programs in windows...?

please can someone message back

i would like to assign the people list and some others
[Windows Mobile Software Development] AviaTIGER:
task manager in the video ???

I really wonder the name of the task manager in the video , could anyone tell me please...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
That's mmTask, it's on the marketplace.

Check out http://www.chainfire.eu/ for some more info.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
This won't work for something like tabs in manila, that you'll have to do manually (I think that's what your thinking of).

In that case, there's a special syntax for manila commands (can't remember exactly).

One of them is

38#"\Windows\ManilaShortcut.exe" calendar

So for LMT, it would be "\windows\manilashortcut.exe,calendar".

Hope that helps.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
0.6 is now out!

Changelog in first post! :)

Also, I've found a way to make this rotation aware, so that should be coming in the next release.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] clockcycle4mobile:
Great job!!! Could you also use this rotation gesture for rotating pictures in the album??

Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] xavierdemon:
That's great news :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] danusko:
hi,

i don know if somebody ask this but it try:

Is it possible to add this functionality in next vs.

Define single gesture only for active window/app?

I mean, e.g. for Resco explorer i set, that single right gesture is "forward" and left gesture is "back". Maybe for other apps, where single gesture doesnt negate with main gesture of htc it will works perfect or?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zhuozhi211:
can you add a little details how to use tap and hold? where is the 30px area?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MAMeingast:
I simply love this app! It works really great and is one of the most useful new apps I've encountered in a while! :)

A suggestion: Could you include an inverted delete gesture? I really like the delete gesture, because it can easily be used with one finger! And having a second one (by rotating the gesture 180 degrees) would be awesome!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] boogey:
I wanted to created a gesture to open the manila "All People" page. While searching I found this page which shows how to link to specific tabs:

Also, to link to the list of all people, I ended up with:

\windows\manila.exe,--switchtopage people\\browserlayer\\?.page
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Yes we can... :-) We are working on bigger features for v0.7, so I don't now if we can add new gestures in this release. But "new (st) gestures" in on our todo list.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
Just ideas :)

I know it's not really "polite" to hop in the discussion without reading the whole thread, anywho :p

I discovered and have been subscribed to this thread (and sparingly participated) since v0.2, just to "check the updates" because I was most interested, but never installed it until now because probably of laziness.

On a side note, you may want to include in the first post the reg keys path for the internal settings, as I had to do a search in totalcommander to find it was in hkcu/software ;)

Anyway, right after installing LMT I was smacked in the face by it's potentialities (and yelled at myself for not having installed it before), and there's couple things that I think would be quite an improvement:

TapAndHoldGesture support: make it as a "keyboard tap and hold", that is, repeating the gesture effect as long as you keep it held. Especially useful when you map DPad gestures to doubleline (I did it to use tcpmp more comfortably with volume and skip controls, but I am thinking about reinstalling Cantris which is a tetris program which can't be used unless you have a dpad or a valid alternative to it)

Per application settings: make some gestures (new or user-defined) have specific behaviours in different applications.

Great job l3v5y and noname81! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
I'm loving this program more with every release... but can someone please tell me what this 'tap and hold' feature is? I don't know either what it does or how it works...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aussiebum:
tap and hold screen with one finger and do gesture with other :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aussiebum:
Love the latest release of LMT! Just some more suggestions:

* Have BlackListAll setup by default to exclude programs known to not play nice with LMT, eg. S2U2?

* A Double Triangle multitouch gesture? Can't use the single gesture "delete" in apps like Opera 10 at all...

* Ability to specify a "tap and hold" area, where tap and hold only works in that area. It's a bit annoying when LMT intercepts my Opera 9 pinch to zoom...

* A Settings UI would be nice :)

ALso noticed the "Home" function doesn't take me back to the Manila Home tab.... oh well, I'll stick with my "\windows\manila.exe,--switchtopage home.page" shortcut in the meantime.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cruuz:
nice work m8,

i really like your LMT Launcher :)

is the sourcecode available? i just want to figure out how multitouch can be used in an application. Is it possibe to recognize more then two fingers? if yes, where is the limit?

cheers - cruuz
[Windows Mobile Software Development] papp.martin:
LMT 0.6

Hi

Great job with LMT :-))

donation well deserved

Martin
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
I see. Thanks! I gave it a try, doesn't really suit my needs.

But I just thought I'd come back and reiterate how awesome LMT is. I just set up a rotate command and it's simply superb.

Every HD2 owner should install this... I don't know how I used the HD2 with its lack of buttons beforehand. :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Thanks, but then you have to wait for v0.7! There will be a really cool new feature (I hope you'll like it...)! It could have been even better if HTC would have used better mt hw (the screen alignment aka "shadowing" is driving me crazy... :-)).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, the source code isn't available. But have a look at this thread: "http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=591698"
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jonva:
thanks a lot:D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] MAMeingast:
Stop teasing us! :D

Donation on its way!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] G-ThGraf:
Thanks for your work!

I've a "bug"...

When i'm writting on keyboard I launch some apps with LMT...

Is it possible to say at LMT that he stop to control screen during writting?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JamesRC:
Outstanding application! Thanks for the work!

>> and << would be amazing for task switching!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
What do you mean with "would be amazing for task switching"? This feature is already implemented in v0.6!?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] spirgas:
Hello,

help is needed here.

I installed LMT v0.6 And it seems something wrong. I can draw mt figures and i see them on the screen, but it does nothing, i tryed to learn with ??, but still nothing. I looked in the registry under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\LMT and its totaly empty. Is it ok? :confused: Must i add values to the registry manualy?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
Strange, somehow your installation went wrong since no reg keys were imported.

Before adding them manually, you could try uninstalling, rebooting and reinstalling to see if the keys are written in the registry.

Otherwise, yes, you need to add them one by one or import a reg file.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
CloseApp command too "aggressive"!

I have set my mt gestures with "delete" as CloseApp

That's what I am having partial problems with.

I have this database app installed, that is set to automatically save changes to file on close, and autosave works if I do File>Exit, works if I longpress on the X button, and worked when I used it on my old iPaq214 and used an AEBplus shortcut to close the app.

But when I do a delete gesture on it, autosave doesn't work, it's like LMT is terminating forcedfully the app instead of sending a "close" request to it to let it do "its things" before actually closing; if I close it via LMT CloseApp command, in other words, the changes to the file are not saved and reopening that file gives back the older version.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JamesRC:
I havent setup the reg. files to activate it yet!

EDIT: I'm special. Its done already, apologies!

and its awesome!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
I totally agree... :-) We have to fix that in v0.7. I forgot to implement it correct (first try to close the app in the normal way and _wait_ a bit - if something goes wrong, then kill!).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] spirgas:
Thanks, i almost gave up on this, because i already tryed it about 3 times or so... uninstall/soft reset/install/soft reset. So gave it one more shot, this time without soft reset after install. Took a look to registry and magic! All keys are there :D Now all working perfectly! Accept some problems with white listing opera, but i think its problem with my registry editor. Maybe someone could sugest relyable reg editor? Now im using one from PHM.

Anyway big thanks goes to devs! For taking care of our multitouch screens ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ascker:
Xperia X2

Please help is there any way to run LMT Launcher on Xperia X2

I try the version v0.6 but nothing is done.

I am waiting...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, unfortunately LMT will not work on other devices than the LEO and perhaps the HD Mini. But if you find a way to retrieve the touch values from X2s touch.dll as a service it could work... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
After we finished v0.6 I thought about new features to make LMT even more essential. We have really good emulators (morphgear/FPSEce/...) for our LEO but the multitouch gamepads never worked really well for me. Why? As we all know, LEOs multitouch hardware has problems when the 2 touch values have nearby x or y values. They get aligned (aka “shadowing effect”) and that makes it real hard to implement a good multitouch gamepad. Some gamepads try to hide that problem with “special arranged” buttons, but it never worked well for me.

So, a new LMT feature was born… :-)

The first problem was the shadowing effect. I implemented an alignment filter which tries to hide the hardware problems. This filter won’t work for multitouch movements, but it works for gamepad touches!

The second problem was that I had to block all touch inputs in the gamepad area for all other running apps. This was really hard to archive, but I finally found a new way to block the values for _all_ other programs whilst LMT is still receiving the values. (With this new approach are also other cool features possible!)

I tested the new multitouch gamepad with morhgear and FPSEce and I must say: Now I like gaming on the LEO. :-) I will talk to l3v5y. He wants to add “rotation awareness” to LMT in v0.7. I hope we can release the new version soon…

Btw: You can also use the gamepad/controller in every app e.g. as a dpad replacement (portrait and landscape support).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
...if THAT is what we're going to get in 0.7, what can we expect for 1.0? Telepathically activated gestures? :D

Just make those overlay buttons semitransparent, and you got the perfect onscreen gamepad|
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Semitransparent buttons would be quite cool but unfortunately it is not possible with an accurate performance... :-(

EDIT: I cannot make the buttons transparent but I added a new mode where you can see more bg... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] xavierdemon:
Sounds awesome I only installed morphgear yesterday and it does depend on the gamepad you're using, I'm using this one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=621371, which by far is working the best for me and if you check the last post I tweaked it a tad ;) but I would be very interested to see how your new LMT gamepad feature works and can't wait :)

Keep up the awesome work, LMT is the number one app to have.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
The gamepad you've mentioned is currently the best gamepad because it eliminates the shadowing effect nearly perfect if you hit the buttons in the middle. I only saw (sometimes) problems with up+b or down+x. But with LMTs new gamepad you can play morphgear also in landscape mode... ;-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
That is exactly what I had in mind, looks just about perfect now! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Eskilden:
Hi... I've done a couple of installs and re-installs, with the soft resets and etc. Done the registry alterations, but here is my problem (and I think it's the same as some others had in the older versions);

My Leo does register me doing the gestures, say the single/double square, left, right and so on, but they don't do anything. Except double down wich opens task manager. And if I try to open the LMT program itself, it says "LMT" up in the left corner next to the Windows logo, but there is no application opening...

Any ideas?

ROM: 1.66.409.1

Manila: 2.5.19211

OS: 5.2.21
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
When drawing gestures, do you get the gesture showing up?

If so, you'll simply need to teach LMT what programs you want to load when you do a gesture. Load the program you want to associate, draw a double question mark, and then draw the gesture you want to associate that program with, and you're done!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Eskilden:
Okey, this obviously makes me feel like the biggest retard in the world! Worst part is that I read everything over and over again! But now it's working! Thanks a lot for your help, and the amazingly fast reply!

But one question if I may; Say that I've cofigured double stripe left to be for instance solitaire ( :p ), but now I want it to be something else... Is it just dobule questionmark in the other app, than double stripe left?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aussiebum:
1) double questionmark

2) launch app in question

3) perform double stripe left to assign app to gesture

:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Eskilden:
Well, that's the part that's not working for me :/ I end up back on the home screen on pretty much whatever I do, or it doesn't do anything, depending on the gesture!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
even better, go into HKCU/SOFTWARE/LMT and change the shortcuts there, you can even assign internal commands, check the first post :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Lecl0ne:
Wow, so great app.. Does it consum battery? Will it to be released new gestures?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
No, and yes.

It has hardly any CPU usage, and version 0.7 is going to blow your mind away :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Lecl0ne:
What do you mean?? :rolleyes: when? :D Sorry I'm French, I'm not sure to understand lol
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Eskilden:
Okey, that worked like a charm! Thanks for the awesome help! Donation on its way as soon as I get my paycheck ^^
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Eskilden:
That worked like a charm! Thanks for the help! ^^ Donation on its way as soon as I get my paycheck! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
It means that from what I understand it's going to contain a certain amount of impressively useful new features ;)

No idea when it'll be out, I just know noname81 and l3v5y are working on it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Lecl0ne:
Ok thank you !!! Can't wait for it grrrrrrrrrr !
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Lecl0ne:
Ho !! Any chance to get "Copy" "Cut" "Past" commands? :) It would be so usefull !!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
[REQ] "backlist keyboard touches"

...on a short note for lecl0ne, cut/copy/paste support would be very useful even if I use quickmenu for that..., anyway I think that initiating a gesture on the screen while editing text would immediately move the focus to another area and the whole purpose of the function would be defeated...

But back to my request: I notice that, sometimes (nothing regular, it just happens) when I'm typing on my keyboard, LMT gestures are picked up, especially double line up or down, probably due to the tap/hold support. Didn't test disabling tap and hold to see if that's the culprit, but I still want to keep it as it is useful when I have to do gestures while using phone with one hand.

Anyway, if possible, and if that doesn't take significant cpu resources to be accomplished (it's not a big issue as I said, it just happens once in a while when typing), it would be nice to have LMT "ignore" gestures that are initiated on an open SIP, maybe with an additional check that if you typed a char on the SIP just a while ago, it means the gesture isn't actually a gesture but just a keypress.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
i'm currently on holidays, but i'll have a look at this problem on we...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chalid:
It would be nice if you outsource the gesture images, so they can be skinned ... :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Lecl0ne:
I thought about it and you're right.. it's a pity. ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Bigboibob11:
iso help lmao

im new to xda and dont know how to do much of anything on a winmo phone but i was like a expert @ iphone just got my htc hd2 loving it by far and i dont know how to get apps of this site like lmt i dont know how to put it in my phone any assisstance with basic termonaligy plz
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Lecl0ne:
Hi Bigboibob ;)

Just:

Register to xda

Download the CAb file

Sync your HD2 with your computer

Cut/Copy the Cab file on your device (SD card if you own one),

Launch it

Enjoy ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Bigboibob11:
help

hey im new to xda winmo and all this but i wana learn how to put applications on my new htc hd2 tmobile usa version idk how to unzipp it just breaks up into like 5 files evertime i unzip any of the cabs and i dont know what next step is after that any video links you can recommend me too or help if you woulndt mind? thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
funny you took the time to go an unzip a cab to search, maybe, for a setup.exe inside of it, and you didn't think about searching on the web for the solution (which is pretty simple, after all :D)

Shorthand for the search results, copy the cab over to your device, and (double)tap on it to run it and start installation.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
fyi: v0.7 is finished and will be released soon. I hope that someone can test the new controller feature with morphgear and FPSEce and give us some feedback... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
super :)

I am sure more than someone will, morphgear, even more than fpsece, is a perfect timekiller when you have short pauses, so a match or two in your favourte rpg is a fast one to test :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
0.7 has been posted now! :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
great! Thank you, testing now!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
I confirm delete command now works as expected, also confirm gesture timer works better: before, when I closed tomtom with delete gesture, associated to CloseApp, the gesture icon stayed onscreen very long, for some reason, while now it only stays a little longer than normal, barely noticeable, maybe not even that and I am imagining things ;)

I am having some difficulties in setting the keypad with morphgear (the version recompiled for HD2), as somehow, where I select the gamepad emulated action, and I need to press on the hardware button to associate (emulated by LMT keypad) only the directional buttons, and 1-2 buttons work, while A B C D X Y always give back a 229 code to the program, weird!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Some hints for the morphgear config:

- activate "orientation east"

- deactivate "Use virtual pad"

- deactivate "tactile feedback"

- activate "polling method"

Set keys via regedit (HKCU\Software\Morphgear\SNES\):

- vkUp: 37

- vkDown: 39

- vkLeft: 40

- vkRight: 38

- vkSelect: 12

- vkStart: 13

- vkL: 96

- vkR: 97

- vkA: 98

- vkB: 99

- vkX: 100

- vkY: 101

enjoy!

Btw: Perhaps one should make a cab for that... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
heh yes, I had to find all that by trial and error, just came back from a test run of Earthbound ;)

Like you suggest in your settings, had some headache setting the directional pad for landscape snes, as you have to imagine how morphgear detect dpad presses with the device rotated... so up is not really up, but left or right, depending on orientation, and so on :D

Anyway, morphgear has a bug (I thought it was LMT at first but far from true), where if you try to assign hardware button to snes actions, it autoassigns 229 to the ABXY keys, no matter what else you press.

The feedback regarding the onscreen pad appearance is that it should be made even less intrusive, maybe removing the frames.

I have made a simple draft to let you get the idea of what I think may be a newer version:

As you see it's made to copy the layout of classic snes and psx controllers, also graphically. There are no frames around the symbols, if you do a double white/black outline you can see the buttons anyway, and there's less on the screen to cover the images.

The red arrows are actually invisibile, and are sensible areas which "sum up" the effect of the two near keys, whatever they are, in other words when you put your finger on those hidden areas, it's like having a simultaneous press on the two nearbye arrows. This is needed since with MT you cannot just hold your thumb over both, say, up and right to go diagonally, but you would need to hit them with two different fingers, and that's quite impossible ;)

Also, the XABY keys are in a layout which resembles the original snes/psx ones, as C and D buttons are renamed to R and L to represent the respective keys, and the close/rotate buttons have their own symbols (just random ones to put something in the image).

Let me know what you think ;) Overall I love what LMT is becoming!