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[G1 Android Development] k4str0:
Hi XDA,

This thread is for OpenEclair tweaks or tips that you might have to increase performance. I'm currently running 1.1.1 and I wanted to find out from our forum members what they have done to increase performance and just make it run faster. Tweaks & tips should be posted here for everyone to use at their discretion. OpenEclair is pretty stable, but I'm willing to sacrifice some stability for speed. Once some useful tweaks & tips are posted, I will be updating the main post to consolidate them.

My current settings:

CompCache - 32MB

No Swap

Home app is not checked to stay in memory in Spare Parts*

*I just made this change and it seems to provide a noticable increase responsiveness when hitting home and opening the App Drawer.
[G1 Android Development] k4str0:
**RESERVED**
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
wow please get this wasted space out of here

a tweaked user.conf is hardly fitting in the android DEVELOPMENT section
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
jeez whats with the rudeness man?

If it helps this community, doesnt this belong here?
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
no, it belongs in the openeclair thread

lol and changing compcache settings isnt going to make the ROM run like its on the droid :p
[G1 Android Development] G1-evolve:
kingklick, I use to respect you man. But lately man you've just been acting like a total ****. Like for real if you don't have something positive or constructive to say then just honestly don't post and gtho... No need to try and play "User Mod" when/if a mod see's this and feels it's in the wrong area they'll take care of it.

:|
[G1 Android Development] bubonik:
Hes probably pissed that nobody bought him a Nexus One yet.
[G1 Android Development] G1-evolve:
lolol... :eek:
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
See now thats how you tell someone something :D lol
[G1 Android Development] r3s-rt:
rofl, are you retarded, bro? did you even read the first post. haaaa. i love stupid people. you make me feel so self-confident.
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
I see your point:

"This thread is for OpenEclair tweaks or tips that you might have to increase performance."
[G1 Android Development] keikiman:
is anyone actually gonna post tips to improve speed? :D

if not complaining is cool too :p
[G1 Android Development] dreamhunterr:
The way I see it:

a) by only using compcache you get a better performance in singletasking, lowlevel multitasking; usercase includes people who are taskkillers compulsive fanatics; not many apps installed, few widgets on homescreens

b) extending compache with a backing swap OR using only swap, while decreasing singletasking performance vs 'only using compcache', dramatically increases your ability to multitask

So, it's a matter or personal preference and use case. I'm an a) kind of guy @ 1.6 roms, though lately I've been using compcache with backing swap (kind of a best of two worlds...).

In 2.1, which seems to be a tad bit of a resource hog for the G1 since it still lacks some optimization, swap allows you to 'ride the beast' fairly well. However, when it gets streamlined and optimized enough, with a use case like a), I'd say compcache pays off once again.
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
lmao ditto :cool:
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
haha my point exactly.....

how many times has this been said on xda period?

is an entire thread necessary is all I was saying......

chill out :p

:cool:

lol there is SOOO much tweaking to be done the only posts that have been posted have been flames directly at myself only

:D
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
Well this thread is kind of a good idea.

Even though it started off bad, it could turn into a thread solely dedicated to Tweaks and Tips instead of a whole bunch of issues, problems, concerns, etc.. like with all the other ROM threads.
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
you are really questioning MY intelligence after posting THIS??!?!?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=627858
[G1 Android Development] k4str0:
This thread was primarily for OpenEclair although if anything useful came about from it, it would probably be applicable to other Eclair ROMs on the G1. I was hoping to see not only CompCache/Swap settings, etc but Custom Kernels or actually discussion regarding the code available in GitHub that someone could run with to create an unofficial performance increasing update.zip (at the sacrifice of some stability, JIT anyone? ;)).

Some apps can also substaintially lower performance with Eclair on the G1.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I've brought it up with them and JIT is on the wait list ;)
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
Yeah can you explain to me what's with the post to that thread?
[G1 Android Development] Firerat:
Have to say i'm with King on this, its not really a topic for 'devlopment' it should be in general.

and if the ROM DEV approves they could link in OP keeping the dev thread clean for bug reports and the like

But I'm a bit of a pedant, a relaxed one though
[G1 Android Development] Firerat:
I

Macro,

put the spade down... I'll go get a ladder
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
Ok people enough with the 'hilarious' stupid jokes and sarcasm. Its becoming a serious nuisance having to deal with people who think they are too smart to explain things to other people.

Grow up.

Whether Im taking it wrong or not, its getting very old.
[G1 Android Development] ohspaceman:
Ah, le sigh, flame war.

Just get on with the point of the thread.

If it needs to be moved, it will be moved.

I generally use backing-swap, it's a nice (for me) halfway point between Compcache and Swap.

Aside from that, though, I don't know much. I generally disable animations and autorotate. I don't keep Home++ in memory. If the ROM isn't already clocked up, I throw SetCPU on there and do so.

Of course, this is all speaking from general experience, haven't tried OpenEclair yet.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Disappointed I didn't get to use my flamethrower this time
[G1 Android Development] sitimber:
still time its not been moved yet i'll bring the fuel

you bring the ram to add t it lmao
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
haha honestly thanks man !
[G1 Android Development] Daneshm90:
Lol they should have a "Approve For Thread" Forum, where a member can create a thread and what forum they think it should go under, and ONLY if mod's approve, does it actually get moved there. Im talking about junior members/senior members with junior brains :)
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
So are these optimizations something a mild user can do, through swapping files and such, or would it require a more indepth level of involvment? Do you have a resource a person could look at?
[G1 Android Development] prophetjinn:
So with a backing swap, do you still use a swap partition or do you make a swap file on sd?

(out of curiosity)
[G1 Android Development] thugplayer:
epic. lol.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Backing Swap uses a swap partition
[G1 Android Development] BrutalHoe:
Dude u r a ****ing idiot, go to General Forums! This is For Developers, since u didn't develop ****. GTFO of here.

Damn noobs.

BTW It's Noticeable not noticable
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I just had to do this. By the way it's...

Don't correct people if you yourself are not correct.
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
this thread is crazy
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
This thread just like completely lost its meaning lol.

Damn Hippies >_>
[G1 Android Development] zenstitution:
Damn, this has been the real problem with xda since the haykuro epidemic...people are getting too sensitive.

Devs: when people are fiending for roms, they get stupid. They don't read directions and ask a bunch of redundant questions that could have easily been avoided by the search button or simply reading any of the informative threads that devs out in place for noobs. However, they're noobs they're gonna ask questions and get overly excited, in a way be greatful that you're a hit in the community.

Noobs: Please use the search function more or even simply pm devs with an intelligent question while presenting them with info they need to know to help you, if you skim through any thread you can easily find out what they are. The devs put a lot of work into they're roms and deserve some respect, not to say noobs don't either. But understand devs willingly give help to the community and take a lot of **** for it.

Just everyone chill out, and let's actually work on some development, unlike this thread which is about tweaks, not any actually development.:cool:
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
Nuff Said :)
[G1 Android Development] djluis48:
Someone move this to the General Section pls...

This thread is epic loool
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I know it is epic isn't it.
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
Priceless xD
[G1 Android Development] mytharak:
Flame war threads are useless. I can't believe I just wasted time reading all that crap.
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
And I again I say...Priceless.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I'm running out of priceless pics. This will have to do.
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Although I agree this isnt a needed post (and I simply jumped to the end of the thread)....

However....King, your just pissed cause this isnt about your builds, and about something not related to YOU. I'm tired of your 4+ builds (all 2.x) clogging up the forum for weeks and Im not complaining in them, so no *****ing from you. You seem to have let all the noob attention get to your head, stop being a **** :cool:
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
lol ok youre gunna make me fall off my seat man seriously.

Priceless=Off

is that better?
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
How fast did you turn it off? You might have fallen
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
lol Not fast enough it seems :p
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
wow I forgot what this thread was about O_o.

Oh yeah Tweaks & Tips lol.
[G1 Android Development] Sxyman815:
Seriously

This is why XDA is a lame place thanks to flamers and people that clog up the threads with random stupid off topic things....senior members....members....junior members all included dev or not....

That being said it really isn't in the right place more so General forum....

although I will add my own .01 cent....

2 G1's one on 1.1.1 and one on 1.1.3 and both with many widgets and MANY apps the best config for the compcache and swap i have found is Pure swap

this thread could have been avoided by searching for compcache vs compcache w/ backing swap vs swap .... or something like that because as i have flashed many diff roms this has been the best config FOR ME

If you don't like what I have said Don't reply and waste yours or anyone elses time on XDA

GROW UP... :)
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
Lol that's my line. :p

I think that what the guy was trying to do though was just make a thread where people post how they made the OpenEclair run faster.
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
And here we have a snapshot of the dynamic on xda. Those who care, don't know, and those who know, don't care. The people willing to bridge the gap are very few. Its not difficult to say 'to achieve what you're trying to do you need XYZ, and I learned it by this thread/searching for this/googling for this'. Instead of building them up we beat them down, and those with the most knowledge, perpetually turn a blind eye. And these noobs, perpetually remain noobs.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
We've tried to help, no matter what you do it will get worse. Look through about 1500 of my posts, those are duplicate answers to the same questions. We stopped caring, when people stopped thinking. If some people thought they would know that there are very few questions that have not already been answered.

But let's not turn this into a bigger flame war than it already is. Start a thread in general and we'll talk there.
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Agreed, and enough said. I too have been involved in at least 2 swap\compcache discussions that could have been found using search. Gets old quickly......
[G1 Android Development] Temporarily:
Ironically, you know very little, if anything, about being helpful.
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
Leave it alone dude. This thread needs to be closed or moved before more people start to flame -.-
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
I can relate dude, I've been "that guy" helping noobs on many message boards, and it does get challenging. But it does feel good when you see someone you helped along helping someone else, and making your life easier in the process :)

About that offer, you got it! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5560167#post5560167 :D my brain's hungry for knowledge.
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
If you say so, guy. I've helped quite a few people on here. I don't know much but I'm willing to offer what ever I know to help someone up. I've bumped heads with a guy or two, one we talked in PMs and got on the same page and discovered a person who's actually pretty cool lol and good for a laugh or two. The other person is yourself. You seem to feed off negative energy, constantly persuing a conflict (all the while reminding me that 'you won') in one thread, in pms, and now in this thread. I feed off positive energy, people coming together, growth, etc. We are diametrically opposed, and I'm okay with that. Were not gonna click with everybody we meet. And like I told you in PMs dude, if you don't have something progressive to say, I'm not gonna acknowledge you.

Peace
[G1 Android Development] shohid1234:
Not as brutal as I would have said it, but my sentiments exactly. methinks the mods should have a look here. And also guys, lay off king, im sure if it was a real noob with her first post, it would have been moved and dissed already but because it was posted by a senior member somehow it makes it ok! look at the content not who posted it!!!
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Seriously King - cut it out - be nice!
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Ok for best speeds I suggest this:

Keep home app in memory in on

CC 16mb for basic users without many background apps

24mb for advanced users that use many background apps

I personally use 24 right now - thinking about dropping to 16

Also about to upload a brand new kernel in our 1.1.4 - GChat me to get it
[G1 Android Development] :
I've never heard of compcache so low. Also, what is your memory limit? I've heard higher is better, and vice-versa with lower. I've personally tried both and with backing swap, and just ended up kicking compcache out the window all together. I just use pure swap and reboot my phone every morning since it has also came to me that Linux swap slows down after a few days. With that, I just keep swap fresh.
[G1 Android Development] BlackElvis79:
o_O

Wowee wow wow wow!!! When does the hurting stop? :D
[G1 Android Development] bolmedias:
May I please remind you all............

of this nice bit of failure right here

Yeah. This thread and this thread have reached the level of failure and lolz that the kernel thread reached.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
that's where the kernel thread went, I was looking for it the other day but it had been wiped of the face of the earth... Until now. Bookmarked. Would you happen to hve the motoqlic one, good sir?
[G1 Android Development] bolmedias:
Google is my friend. It got deleted :(
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Darn, I was hoping they brought it back. I liked that one.
[G1 Android Development] bolmedias:
Wiped off the face of the earth. It's not even in the archive.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
That's the first place I looked. Seems somebody didn't like that thread too much.
[G1 Android Development] bryon13:
Minor tweaks

A couple of things I did:

Remove mp3 store. It auto-starts frequently, and I don't use it. If I want music, I use other sources, anyway. In fact, I remove a lot of stock apps that I don't use...they are just taking up space, and memory. (anyone know how to keep calendar & alarm clock from auto-running? I'm afraid to remove them, because I don't know if the regular clock function relies on them)

I keep the Home app locked in memory.

I, personally, use pure compcache. The 10mb hack is quite a nice bit of code, as I don't really play a lot of games.

I'm a computer tech by hobby, but admittedly, smartphones are a steep learning curve for me, so a thread like this, even if it goes to general could be quite helpful...if it weren't for the huge pile of people that are using this as their own personal chat room. Everyone that's *****ing about this being off topic, or retarded are the ones taking this thread off topic and retarded.

Some have said that this was all about compcache vs swap, but really, it's not. It's about tweaking your phone. Maybe this should be here, so if we come up with some really fast configurations, a few devs that don't have their heads up their asses might take notice, and implement some of our changes & tweaks. I'm starting to wonder if maybe going back to stock (no root) might be the best way to eliminate having to slosh through 17 identical roms that all have the same **** broken.

Of course, this thread will most likely get locked or deleted because of all you lame-ass lolcat junkies.

I may come across like a jackass here, but remember who shot first, assholes.

Thanks to all the people who have actually contributed tips & tricks! I'm always looking for a way to make my phone run faster, so long as it's stable ENOUGH to still be a phone.
[G1 Android Development] Macrophage001:
Try backing the apk's up first and then remove them. If your Regular Clock Doesn't work then put them back in.

To backup from terminal in phone

$ su
# mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
# cat /system/app/<name of apk file> > /sdcard/<name of apk file>
# mount -o r,remount /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
# exit
$ exit

To put them back in

1.Put them in the tools folder of your Android SDK

2.Go to CMD and go into the SDK.

Type this:

adb remount
adb push <name of apk file>.apk /system/app
[G1 Android Development] :
Then stfu and let people who know what they're talking about talk.

ROFL. That one just made my day. Do you even have the slightest idea wtf a lolcat is?

No. You come across as a dumbass.

I'll agree that this thread is pointless.

I'll also agree that people shouldn't be flamed for it. It takes experience to learn.

I'll also agree that they really do need to learn to read the rules. Figuring out where to put this thread isn't a calculus problem. If it was, it's still not hard. ;)

Also, Devs most likely aren't going to remove apps because you don't use them. There's still quite a many people who do. There's not a lot you can do to "tweak" your ROM for speed. The things you can do are old and have been done. There's not a single thing to implement. They all overclock. They all support swap. They all have 10mb hack or have it optional. If they want, they support a user.conf (which really doesn't do a damn thing.) They all have compcache. You get the idea, I hope.

Also, don't justify your rudeness by saying other people did it first. Anyone with a handful of maturity can tell you thats an excuse little kids use when they're scared of getting a spanking. Be a man; be a woman. Whatever one of those float your boat. Just don't be a child.

oh my god. i seriously feel over laughing and cried that was amazing. thank you. thank you very much.
[G1 Android Development] sagementor:
Wes,

I have a problem with only CC setting without swap. The browser app was pushed off memory when the phone screen switch off during loading a big webpage. any solution?
[G1 Android Development] theMODEL22:
thats freaking hilarious, i remember just watching this unfold while laughing my ass off - and ya this thread belongs in a different forum
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] FarBeyond:
Anyone seen the article at PPCGeeks.com about Windows Phone 7??

I cant believe the crap Microsoft is trying to pull...

Looks like I will be making my next phone purchase based on WinMo6 and Android... Prob wont ever go to WinMo7...
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] o2neouzr:
i wouldnt believe any rumors that come out until microsoft confirms it. there have been so many different rumors from respectable sources and they all contradict each other. who to believe? no one
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] AdamiX:
I don't want an iPhone from my Windows phone!
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] bunu:
lol. I may use Android but I was looking at WM and thinking "That is a way better work phone than a Blackberry." but after reading those new rumors I am starting to doubt that.

I hope they are wrong since we don't need another iFail on the market but I can tell you one thing. HTC won't stand for that. They will mask all the ugly with their gorgeous HTC SENSE.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] AdamiX:
Yes but if u read that

So? I think we will see, because HD2 is running with sense, and i don't thing that official update to WM 7 will be something like that.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] sc00basteve:
Oh whatever!...

honestly, why are you surprised?

Look at the success of the other companies and OS's who use similar strategies.

Lock down the device = enhanced and specific support for hardware, and etc., specifically hardware.

ZuneHD is a perfect example. I thought about getting one (for about 5 minutes) because of that sweet'n'sexy little tegra chip. MS couldn't have made that run as smooth & efficiently on a CE5.x base.

I will probably not get one of these phones either (unless they've not leaked some amazing feature like a free MS Surface Table with purchase of every WinPhone7, haha).

Though, I do wish MS the best of luck trying to deliver Proprietary content and software in a prettier way than Apple. I mean lets face it: Apple tends to slap handcuffs on it's customers and they still wanna dance. Hope MS's mobile department has been talking to the Xbox360's marketing Dept.
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] magicman0:
One of the many things I love about my phone is that I can change interfaces, get unique interfaces, and duplicate other phone's interfaces. lets hope this is only one version of Windows 7. It looks they are taking the iphone direction - make the phone idiot proof and lock it down
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] die_Leuchte:
Haha sounds like someone is making fun of us and posts all that sucks on the iPhone OS:

-Unfortunately there will be no Flash support at the get go as there was not

enough time to implement these features.

-Windows Phone 7 will only support application installation through service based delivery. (i.e Marketplace). Application installation via storage card will not be possible.

- No Multi-Task support. Applications will “Pause” when in the background, however will support notifications via push notifications.

:eek:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] BoneMo:
WM7

Hmm.. I see Microsoft Iphone :(:mad:
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] owziee:
Well if that is true then I will be staying with winmo 6.1/6.5 and Android forever :) The HD2 is such a powerful beast, I hope Android will be fully ported to it...

Imagine dual booting WM6.5 & Android on the HD2 with it's powerful cpu & large clear capacitive screen!! Then WinMO 7 can go and die a slow death, I wouldn't care :)
[Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking] djyosnow:
UGH

I fear the future also, as many do. (of the wm os) Microsoft ~ Windows Mobile has a niche for getting things wrong pretty much all the time. I read a rather creditable article that the new sync software was to be the Zune software? WTF my Zune syncs wrong almost all the time especially this last time and the other last time...UGH I fear the future of Windows Mobile and hope they get there heads out of there A$$ and step it up. I've had to call Zune support multiple times and also have to yet to date. (again ugh)

~Windows Mobile Device Center will no longer be used. Zune software to take over syncing via PC.....?????

~DJyoSNOW~

~PLUR~ Peace Love Unity Respect