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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Sherbet66:
Hi,

Followed all the steps for installing the MTTY without any issues until it came to the task 29 and i received the following message:

Cmd>task 29

Format BINFS start

Fill RSVD information for block 497 to 530

CE start start block=530, total block=3566

erase_page - error bad status: 0xB791D500

ERASE block 706 FAIL !!!

TAG NOT FOUND !!! NOT CLEAR STORAGE !!!

Format BINFS end

I see there are a couple of error messages in the above (706 fail being a new one that give me some cause for concern), i'm trying to correct the following issues (from previous post elsewhere):

been having some issues with HTC Sense on the Leo i bought a couple of weeks ago, Although this was fine at first this is now crashing every-time i try and use the quick link tabs. Occasionally this fails to restart altogether and displays; cannot re-start HTC Sense, click here to continue. The only way to re-start Sense at this point is a soft reset. The handset is suffering from regular freezing issues and black screen problems.

I was using the Axlor 6.1 ROM with the radio Radio 2.07.50.27_2. I tried a hard re-set but the problem persisted. I've flashing the Artemis 4.0 ROM and flashing to a different radio 2.08.50.08 however the problem persists with the new ROMS and radio I've tried. I've flashed back to Axlor at the moment. Device is totally non responsive now.

All the steps were adhered to exactly and went flawlessly, can anyone tell me what this additional error message might mean?

Sherbet66
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
Thought of reading the first post? (Notice the title "ASKED TOO MANY TIMES")

LOL

with regards to your problem (which is off topic for this thread, but ill try anyway) have you tryed NOT using the HTC Sense plugin?

the reason i ask is if you are having this issue SPECIFICALLY with HTC Sense, try using Titanium (Windows Default) for an hour or 2 and see if the phone hangs, if it does then it is a fundamental ROM issue.

If NOTHING happens then it is possible an incompatibility with HTC Sense and some software you have installed. I have experienced in the past this issue when i installed a theme. (personally i dont use HTC Senseless for this very reason!!)

My experience is from the HTC Touch Diamond, I was running Manila, then i installed "evellyns Black and Red theme" rebooted my device the manila failed permanently!

personally i would try titanium plugin and see if the HD2 crashes!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Sherbet66:
Apologies for asking stupid questions that's been flagged in the 1st post, I've been slightly panicking regarding this. I realise its slightly off topic, thanks for the advice re the HTC Sense.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
dnt worry, i understand how you would think it related to a hard-reset prob!!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] donalgodon:
Thanks, MysticGenius!

First MTTY attempt today went smoothly and everything is great.

It was easy after all.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
You might say its as easy as following instructions!!

Maybe others can take a leaf out of your book! glad it worked with no troubles!

;);)

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] doody21:
Thanks MysticGenius

My first use of MTTY.so easy run fast...............if others following instruction on 1st page.thanks allot.............i noticed improvment
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Meztec:
Hi Mystic,

Gonna ask a really silly question but is this ok for 32bit vista with sp2. I only ask cos in your post it says 64 & 86 bit Vista/7/ XP ect,..

I just want to be sure as I have not followed this development from the previous Diamond thread as you mentioned.

Just follow the instruction if it's ok as per your post ?

Super work and thanks in advance - matey. (can't wait to flash me HD2)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
x86 means 32 bit.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Meztec:
Cheers Sam,

As Homer would say "DOH" !!!:rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
If you know this is silly why ask? lol

x64=64bit x86=32bit.

why they are named like this i have no idea!!

probably thought up be someone who has no basic math skills!!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Dreezzzzz:
Great Tutorial

He MG,

thx for this tutorial.

I had to try a few times but thats maybe because i am pretty new to this game.

I managed to MTTY and I am glad because my HD2 was showing some strange "bugs" after flashing several custom Roms. This happenend even after flashing back to stock Rom before Cooked Rom.

I also have to use F8. if I don't use F8 my HD2 will not even go in USB mode (Bootloader) and I cant use MTTY because usb will not show, just Com1/2.

Is this, what you mean by paying the bill to save Euro's??

anyway thx for your efforts,

Dreezzzzz
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] efrant:
x86 is so named becaused it was the name of intel's original single-core 16/32-bit processor line that stemmed from the 8086 processor: the 286, the 386, the 386SX, the 486 and the 586 (Pentium). With the launch of the 586, they stopped using the x86 nomenclature for processors, and started using Pentium instead. However, it stuck when referring to operating systems that would run on that arcitecture.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
Sorry,

While I'm in hurry.... just make an mistake... I typed "task 28" instead of "task 29"... Does it effect to my device :(:(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] DaveShaw:
No, the Stock RUUs does a task 28 every time you flash.

Ta,

Dave
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] meptik:
I don't believe so. As far as I know task 28 formats a more limited area than task29.

MG wrote the following in the MTTY Diamond thread:

I vaguely remember v1 of this thread contained some discussion about the differences between the two tasks as well, with someone stating that HTC's RUU actually performs task 28. Not sure how accurate this is, though. Maybe MG can correct me on this.

EDIT: Ah, I see DaveShaw already mentioned this too.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
the only reason you get no USB with F8 is because the driver install didnt work! you have the 2003/4 drivers in Device manager when you connect in bootloader

MG

make sure that
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
Dear MysticGenius and everyone,

I try to do this on the Touch HD... does it works with Touch HD ??

And another thing is... I cant update the driver on my sister for her HD anymore.. I dont know why??? it just say "the device can not start(code 10)"... please help me sort this out please...

thank in advance
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Dreezzzzz:
I have the Driver 01-09-2003, not digitally signed, installed. MTTY also worked so I think I did it the right way.

I am using Windows 7, 64 bit.

After unchecking usb connections allowed on PC and going to Bootloader on HD2

My Pc did not recognise my HD2. I had to reboot the Pc using F8, choosing no digitally signed drivers, then it recognised the HD2 and went from serial to usb. Now I could install the driver you supplied. So not just everytime before using MTTY reboot with F8 but also when installing the Driver. I did not see that in your tutorial, maybe something to add. Does this mean the Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider and the Remove Watermark V0.8 dont work on windows 7 (64bit) and you can just reboot in F8, install the driver.

You have to reboot in F8 anyway for using MTTY.

Anyway, thx for helping me format my HD2
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
your meaning this:

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
I also try again form beginning with no luck :( Please help me
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pongster:
@MG

Can I mtty using XP as guest in VMWare using the steps you've outlined in the 1st 4 posts? :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
I dont know because i follow the instructions in post 2 & 3 myself and it works everytime for roughly 3 years, so i know the issue is not windows Vista or Win 7, nor is it because of x64 or x86.

your issue is holding your mouse! the only reason this isnt working is because YOU are doing something wrong.

Probably! I dont know because i follow the instructions in post 2 & 3 myself and it works everytime so i dont mess around with VMWare! (to be honest i have never used or seen VMWare although i hear a lot of people going on about it!!)

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pongster:
Will try it out then, if I can connect and mtty sees my device then the task 29 should work... :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
thank mate for your clarify... but I would like to know whether I can uninstall all things to redo it again ? How can I do this..

thank in advance
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
Sure, put you device into bootloader, connect USB, go to device manager and find the HD2, should be "Mobile Sync" or "HTC Sync" or something like that.

right click it and select "Uninstall" when you get the option select "Remove from system"

after this finished, reboot, reconnect USB and allow the driver to install, allow it to download from MS update if needed. reboot again once finished, then start the driver install from post 2

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
thank for that MG ;)

EDIT: I've done exactly what you advice but still no luck... poor me :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
well nothing i can do, i have provided working drivers and full instructions.

if it doesnt work it is down to your error, something i cannot fix!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Kurni:
I assume you're talking about VMware workstation running in Windows.

I use VMware (latest version) a lot at work and I found VMware indicated file copy to be "successful" but the file was corrupted, but it was 15GB file. I repeated the corruption a few times - I could only get a valid file when I copy it to external HDD through the host, and then plug the HDD in VMware.

I don't trust VMware workstation for flashing - I use my other XP laptop. Personally I try to minimise "unecessary middlemen", hence minimising the variables in between.

BTW, great tool MG :) I've just finished reading from top to bottom out of interest.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pongster:
Thanks for the heads-up... it is VMWare Workstation ... I was planning on doing a task29 before flashing a new ROM...

Anyone failed to do a proper task 29 via VMWare Workstation and lived to tell the tale (assuming all instructions of MG are followed, of course)? :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pongster:
I'm back to report success!

Used MG instructions to perfection in XP as VMWare Guest on Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Host!

Thanks for the info! task 29 rules!!!

It was easier than I thought...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] donalgodon:
With all the trouble you guys have with the driver issue, I am glad I am still using XP!

I don't think it could be any easier than just using MTTY on XP. No driver issues. Nothing. Just click and go. It's so simple, you might even forget that you were using Windows at all. :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
I think XP sucks ass personally! and i never have any troubles with the drivers because i can follow instructions.

also before you say its a fluke i have the following:

PC - XP (Parents) - Working

PC - Quad Boot (Vista Ultimate x86 & X64, Win7 Enterprise (Rock on MSDN!!) x86 & x64) (My custom build) - Working

PC - Dual Boot (XP & Vista x86) - (Friend Silicon Squirrel) - Working

Laptop - Dual Boot (XP x86, Win 7 x64) (Mine) - Working

Laptop - Win 7 (x64) - (Friend bennec83) - Working

that is not a fluke, that is because it works, and the people experiencing problems are NOT following post 2.

(you may think you are, but are you? are you adding your own twist? probably, conscientiously probably not!)

trust me it works!

Windows is the ONLY OS! MAC's are an experience, and if you can get something done while you are there then cool.

Windows YOU actually control! also, XP is going to go soon (hopefully) so people will have no choice other then to use this!

MG

(All a matter of taste and opinion BTW - I HATE everything MAC, 100% - although it is good for Media Editing but i still prefer the windows version of CS4 and Soundforge etc)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] donalgodon:
All those things may be... but realistically, it should not take so many steps to do such a simple process, IMO.

I have no compelling reason not to use XP at this point, since I only use it for things like ROM flashing, etc. IF these tools ever stop working, then I may have to dive into Windows 7, but until then, it ain't broke, so I won't fix it. :D

Windows is an ugly and counterintuitive UI, in many respects, and nobody can touch the esthetic that Apple brings to the hardware/software integration, IMO, but that's another thread!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Kurni:
This Windows vs Mac is pointless, back to the great MTTY :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] donalgodon:
Maybe someone can build a Mac version of MTTY.

Directions for use would be:

1. Plug in your phone.

2. Open MTTY

3. Press "Run MTTY."

Done. :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
I think you are over dramatizing this, it takes about 10 mins to get drivers in.

and 5 seconds to MTTY.

your making out it takes a day to get it working!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] donalgodon:
Not being dramatic. That's ten minutes (if it works on the first attempt) of wasted time and multiple steps that are simply not necessary when one is using XP. That's all I'm saying.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
got of the thread then as this thread is not for those using XP.

Also you think a good solution for those people with only vista or 7 is to suggest installing xp, and you think installing drivers is a pain.

the last thread got shutdown because if me arguing people like you. like i told them if you have a better idea keep them to yourself or post a thread. I dont really care for an opinion that is nothing to do with the reasoning i put this thread here.

I will report a next post on this subject.

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] donalgodon:
LOL.

Thanks. It's just stating the obvious fact which I have observed: That the majority of issues with MTTY in this thread, which we both know is a simple process, are related to the driver installation necessary under other variants of Windows. Sorry if you were offended by that observation, and I'll get "of" [sic] the thread now. I can assure you that no offense was intended. Just offering that as a solution to the interminable problem posts regarding the drivers. Find (or create) a system with XP and run MTTY from there. No drivers necessary.

Peace.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Shadowdh:
so does anyone else get the driver agent download to scan for drivers when they go to the Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider site...??? I am trying to follow the instructions but either I am less able than I hoped or the instructions are not clear... prob the former is true...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] eighty1:
Watermark wont remove.

Having no problem until removing watermark. When I remove watermark and reboot it should be gone correct, and will it affect the process and not work correctly if the watermark is still there?? I dont need to finish installing the drivers before it to go correct?

Edit: Got the watermark removed but no success in seeing USB when running mtty. It said drivers were installed and I was sure I did everything correct and in order but obviously not.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Obviously not ;).

In Device Manager what is the date of the HTC USB Sync drivers?

MG, just ran through the instructions to install the drivers and had no problems whatsoever.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] eighty1:
The date is 2003 but Im pulling out my girlfriends XP to have a go
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] zukers:
should I use it if my phone works very well without any restarts, can this procedure noticeable speed up my device??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] recoil:
US HD2

Awesome work MG, I have read all directions for using MTTY even tho I do not have a HD2 yet is not to be released here in the US until March 24 (allegedly) however I see in the instructions it says "AND ENSURE YOU HAVE HARD-SPL ON YOU DEVICE!!" I am sure the version of the SPL in the US is not going to allow to HARD-SPL the phone not yet at least, am I am correct to assume MTTY won't work with a US released HD2's? I know duh! not without the HSPL I guess I am just being hopeful that it is possible, please indulge me with the "no it is not possible" so I can kill all hope :( I just had to ask. I search if there is a way to downgrade the SPL to 1.42 to be able to HSPL but didn't find anything, I saw something about the gold card but I didn't really understood how it worked exactly. Anyhow great work I am keeping my fingers cross there is a way to get MTTY to work in the soon to be released US version of the HD2 half the fun of smart phones is trying cooked stuff.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Shadowdh:
Never mind... was hitting the wrong link...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
there seems to be a lot of problems with the driver signer. i would just use the F8 method!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
MTTY will work with ANY HD2 as long as you have HSPL!

PM to about the downgrade, it is not relevant to the thread.

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
Irelevant post. REPORTED
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
Use the F8 method, M$ have done something in an update and it seems to have stoped working in some systems.

I have just taken a new job and i have not had much time to update!

PM if you need fast help!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] eighty1:
Ended up using my girlfriends XP and I got it to work. Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
this is just a comment, in no way directed at you but it is however related to what you have said, hence the quote so please dont take offence.

but why have i put this thread here? this is for the use of MTTY on systems NOT based on XP.

it seems of late i have completely wasted my time as people REALLY seem to struggle getting these drivers in.

I dont get the problem, i have even provided pictures to get past the language barrier but even that is not enough. on top of that, to quote myself:

this works, and has done for much longer than this thread has existed! In the Diamond forum there were very few problems than i have had in this thread.

maybe it is a case of Diamond users generally being more tech savi!

MG

it really leaves a lot to be desired from the users of this site.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
Dear MG,

No matter what some people say bad thing about you.. But I know what you've done is just perfect.... Just wanna say, we want the perfect ROM - we like our favorite Chef's ROM- we need MTTY for our device...

Really thank you for your work here:)

EDIT: oops, forgot to mention about the most important thing...of course, the HSPL from bepe and his team :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
^+1, I followed the instructions and was able to install the drivers without any issues whatsoever (Windows 7 32bit) and the whole process literally only took 5 - 10 minutes, even with the multiple reboots :D.

I agree, the instructions should be foolproof, so some of us Leo users are not "too tech unsavvy" :p, so don't give up on us just yet.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
I used to be messing up with my device... first time I was successfully installed MTTY, then I'd done something wrong and could not re-install it... but now mine works fine:D

This MTTY is a great deal... more than the Hard Reset :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] eighty1:
I agree with you MG you have done and excellent job setting the table for everyone to be able to do this. Its a great idea and very useful and beneficial for the HD2. I cant understand why I was not successful and dont know why lots of ppl have had issues, and probably due to not following step by step directions. Im not real cpu savvy but can follow directions and felt I did a good job of it but didnt get the results, but if its a proven method I obviously did something wrong or like you said the drivers were updated which could cause an issue. Either way I think its a great idea and although I didnt get it to work on Vista I was still able to utilize MTTY on an XP to achieve cleaning my phone which is very necessary for the next flash. Thank you very much
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] monty_rm:
Forgive me if this is a stupid question but it says in the instructions:

'Connect Device to PC via Active Sync, Once Connected Uncheck USB Connections,DISCONNECT DEVICE then Reboot Computer'

Uncheck USB connections where? Is this in a menu on active sync?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
If you're in win XP so you go to control panel and go to Active Sync, Uncheck the "Allow USB Connection". If You're in Win Vista... Go to control panel and go to Window Mobile Device Center and Uncheck the "allow USB Connection"

Cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] EddyOS:
OK, confused - where do you turn off USB connections in step 2 (W7)? Anyone got a pic as I'm lost...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] monty_rm:
Thank you! :D Just wanted to be sure....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Connect device to WMDC > Click on "Connect without Setting Up Device" > Then hover over "Mobile Device Settings" and click "Connection Settings" and untick "Allow USB Connections"
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
Hi, Really appreciate the comment. what people say/feel about what i have to say it their issue not mine, water of a ducks back you may say.

I talk very blunt, no flowers, no consideration really. I get to the point. some people are "offended" by this, but that is an emotional response which i have no time for.

we all know this works, and if it doesnt it is down to the user. people REALLY have a problem being told that it is a problem with them, not these instructions!

Thanks again for your comment.

MG

I have been advocating this for years!! people messing with VMWare/virtual machines etc etc.

MASSIVE WASTE OF TIME!! lol, for these instructions you dont even have to read as i give step by step pics!!

as far as i am aware these TOTALLY complete, nothing has been left out. (i need to look at the issue with M$ Update breaking the driver signature overwriter, but F8 works so no biggie)

also i would never walk away from someone with a REAL problem, if you have a brick contact me or this thread and it will be fixed for free!! why send to HTC when i/this method can do it faster? :D

i just get highly infuriated when people cannot read the first posts, more annoying still is people getting stuck with the driver install. there is ONLY 1 way to do this, and how people screw it up when there is pics IDK!

thanks

MG

hi,

Vista is a bag of spanners at the best of time, i actually have sympathy for you because you are still using it!! I jumped ship the day 7 was released.

I am fully aware that initially this looks like a long difficult process, but as posted above, the whole thing including reboots takes 5-10 mins.

This is a perfect EG of not enough info (Not a moan at you!). Vista x86 or x64? Why didnt the driver go in? what part didnt work?

MG

TO ALL: I have just had an idea, how about on the first post i make a "Support Request Form" so when people get an issue they can copy from first post, paste it into a post and then fill it in and i will have all the info i need to help.

Any comments/suggestions?

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Could be a good idea to force all of the necessary information, but that also assumes that people will read the first post ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
ROFL!! Very true!! I think you are understanding how i am thinking!!!

MG