yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Indeed ;)

I finally did my very first MTTY yesterday (only had HD2 for a week now). I wish this had been punted a bit more on the HD forum, as the solution there to fix problems was to reflash to stock, what a PITA compared to MTTY. Thanks m8.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
LOL,

i can post this in the HD forum!!

i need to check with a mod though as there are already 2 threads for MTTY and i dont want to get in trouble for loads of threads!!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
There are a few threads there making reference to it, but they soon get lost as there is no sticky on these, and as such it is not well known on the HD forum.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
this will get a sticky.

I have PM'd a mod to see if the replication is ok, then ill post it up.

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
That could get hectic, will you still maintain all 3 threads?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
4 threads if the topaz one goes up too!!

and yeah id look after them!! might need some experienced user help, but im sure it will be fine!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lorezz:
edit:wrong thread
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
I'll help out on the HD thread also, not that I'm that experienced after 1 MTTY, but I have built up a relationship with many users there.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pedaah:
Thanx for this, lost my radio/conectivity, and used MTTY to reflash rom and alls good now :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
Cool, as i said im just waiting for the MOD to get back to me then we can rock!

glad to fix!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] hyglos:
Ok, everything is working fine so far...my htc is saying : update in Progress...

Only 1 (maybe stupid) question : do i need to flash both from my memory card AND via usb .

Or is just 1 of the two enough?

Thanks for this bro :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Just 1 of them LMAO. (Yes it was a stupid question LOL, but I guess rather ask if not certain ;))

There is much debate as to which method is preferred, but I think for noobs, usb is probably safer, because if you flash to the wrong stock rom you will not be able to recover hspl.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] hyglos:
Haha, thanks man.

For a noob though....i did it the first time all good man :D !

That is because of your great guide for real dog!

Thanks again . From Holland :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
ROFL!! Ace!!:D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] HTCHD2_2010:
I think you both offer great help to all but I agree with donalgodon on this,

after reading his post and MysticGenius response, I don't see why it was

so offending to point that caused him to jump up and down like a gorilla.

That 's my 2cents worth and sorry if i peed off any of you!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] donalgodon:
No worries. Everything is smoothed out. I can see MG's perspective, and I understand his concerns relating to this thread. MTTY is a great tool, and I am glad we have it in the arsenal.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
Because i have been working on this thread for nearly 2 years now, i have covered all bases.

if people want to use XP thats cool, its their choice, but this thread is for the users who do not use XP!

thats the point. in 1 respect XP is easier, but XP is becoming less and less and soon enough people will have no choice other than to suck it up and use this!

this works, and after te amount of time and effort i have put into fixing 1000's of devices with little to no intensive and a ban related to an argument in this thread its supprising i have not pulled it all down and left you all with your paperweights!!!

people are so fast to shoot me down without actually realizing what i do for people!

you know it is £480 for a new HD2 and about £150 for a HTC service?

THIS IS FREE!! and is upsets me off when i take criticism for it!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] HTCHD2_2010:
I perfectly understand your frustration. I have lots of respect for people

like you taking your real effort to help other less "Tek savvy" users to get

their HD2 up to scratch. In the end, I hope that words of mouth will

get out and more people will see that WinMob on HD2 is not so bad at all

in comparison to Iphone 3GS. And if they have any problem, then this

thread will save the day!

All out -- better get back to work just in case they scan my web activities :-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] HTCHD2_2010:
Oh I just quickly did a MTTY on Windows XP (work laptop), ran into a bit of trouble but

nothing can't fix by reading your POST #1, disable USB option in ActiveSync :-)

Again, I say make the post on page 1 here a sticky b/c it is so useful....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
Hi MG,

Just a quick question though.

Can Touch HD use the MTTY mate ?

No matter what I did I could not succeed in the Task 29, just task 28 is fine. I'm using Vista, I try to use it on XP aswell. Of course I unchecked the "USB Connection":)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Dreezzzzz:
MTTY formats Rom and Radio???

I have used MTTY a couple of times now and it works great thx to your work MG. I use Artemis Cooked Rom's and flashed a other Radio. I noticed after using MTTY and reflashing a newer version of the cooked rom my radio was still the one I manually flashed not the one provided with the cooked ROM. Does MTTY only format the rom and not the radio or am I missing something here?? :confused:

Greetzzzzz Dreezzzzz
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gianton:
yes mtty task 29 formats only the pda part of our devices. radio remains the same. no need to format the radio part.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xenocide976:
just wan to thank mystic for this wonderful tutorial and all who contributed to this great mtty. flashed my 1st custom rom with it. easy to follow instructions.

Thumbs Up!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Yes. MTTY can also be used on the HD. MG is trying to get moderator aproval to open a similar thread on the HD forum. Perhaps MG can confirm, but to my knowledge Task 29 should work on the HD also.

Here is a thread from the HD forum on the Task 29 with users confirming that it works - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=633971&highlight=task+29
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] dusty_nz:
Just a note - Issue

Followed the instructions

1:Enabled test mode, exited then restarted. No watermarks/tags after restart??

2: Ran remove watermark (None anyway), restarted

3: Loaded drivers in flash mode. Restarted

4: Problem with drivers. No signed. REstarted and enabled unsigned mode at boot.

5: Still no waterwak however drivers loaded okay.

Performed MTTY. All fine.

I am running Win 7 ent x64. Ver 6.1.7600 build 7600.

Not a major, Just a FYI
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sputnik64:
MysticGenius, do I can flash SPL 1.42 through MTTY? i'm stuck with 2.08 SPL:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
posted many times if you read the thread:rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] band27:
Hey buddy, how goes the tourist attraction here in mtty land?

I see you are here hard at work with the typical clients....

Hope all your exams went well !!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] band27:
Simple answer: Nope

Complicated answer: The process goes beyond mtty. So back to the simple answer, nope.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
Hey!!!

Long time no see, how you been? tourists are coming thick and fast!! its getting to the point where some of the things asked are laughable!!

exams are good, i actually now have a job!! whoop!! the company is much better than i hoped to get do double whoop!!!

pay cheques and all that lol

what have you been busy with, youve not been around for long time!!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] band27:
Great News that you landed a job!! Glad all is going well.

....and yes, yes, tourist season is daily on this thread. What can u do...? When you're on vacation, reading becomes difficult...lol

Me....I've been here and there. No highlights other then picking up the HD2 finally. Sweet device even though 7 series seems to have disappear off the HD2 list. Still love it!!

THere is a skin that is supposed to replicate it. Look <<HERE>>

Ciao for now....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] craigpyro:
Hey guys!

I've been pointed in your direction for some help. My HD2 is currently a paperweight! lol

Should probably say that I've already done 4 successful ROM updates with various versions of Duttys ROMs, using active sync and good copy of HSPL.

This morning I tried to update to:

Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.2.23540.5.5.0_2.10_HG_V1_Ra dio_2.08.50.08_2_WWE

Everything seemed fine, the dialogue said completed and the HD2 did it's reset. Instead of booting, it displays the network splash (O2 Welcome) and then nothing.

Obviously, without being able to get any further I can't run activesync and try again.

Any help would be much appreciated!!!

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] fugisan:
I just wanted to say

Thank you!

This has helped me so much!

There would have been no-way, or a very long time spent on google figuring out a way to use mtty in general let alone on win7 x64.

Your guide was simple, easy to understand and it worked perfectly.

I now flash between each new ROM i try and don't have any follow on issues since!

Thank you again! xD

-Josh
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Check to see that your radio has indeed been updated to 2.08. I think one of the Dutty roms did not actually include the radio cooked in and therefore the radio needs to be flashed in order for the rom to boot up beyond the welcome screen. On the first boot screen does it show the radio version - red writing in the bottom left corner?

If not, just reboot the device into bootloader mode and connect to usb. No need for Activesync, if usb is displayed you can flash the radio.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] craigpyro:
No, it didn't give any version of anything. No radio version, no ROm version - just the welcome graphic and nothing else.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] craigpyro:
Thank you, but the problem has been resolved. For the solution path that worked for me please see here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5787092&posted=1#post5787092
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Aahh MTTY to the rescue again.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] SiliconSquirrel:
yeah MTTY to the rescue again and MG has been banned again!!!

Bummer, it seems that no matter how many people he fixes up there is no saving graces!!

SS
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gianton:
bad language is nothing to do with helping people... it's a bad manner/habbit which is quite annoying actually.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] SiliconSquirrel:
Agreed, lets hope he learns lesson this time!!

SS
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ilijan:
i do everything from first page and my hd2 show 16.10.2004 driver day... not 2003...

i use win 7 x86

can somebody tell me how fix it?

i removed x86drivers, reboot, and make new installation but its not solved my problem, or its not problem if i have 2004 yeahr?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cgrec92:
the first time i saw mtty i didnt have a clue what it was and what it did

after hearing how necessary it is i tried it

so simple to install on windows 7, flawless and fast

perfect.

thanks for all your hard work!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qazz~:
MTTY?

can anyone kindly tell me what MTTY is? and what it does. cant really understand what is does from the 1st post><
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
It basically cleans out the device memory. Flashing between different roms sometimes leaves traces of these in memory and can lead to funny problems for some users. MTTY clears or formats the memory so you can have a clean start. It does a deeper level clean than just flashing to a stock rom and is so much easier to perform (taking just 10 seconds as opposed to 10 minutes)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qazz~:
thx, for the reply but why are there so many steps to follow.. and things to do
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] band27:
Once you get the drivers into your computer, the steps are simple in mtty:

1) press entre

2) set 14 0

3) task 29

4) task 8
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
It's a once off set of steps, and only if you use Vista or W7. The steps are to allow for unsigned apps to be used on your pc and so that you can load the necessary drivers. Once this is done then it's a cinch.

There are then only 3 steps which take 10 seconds to do. If you use xp, then you can go straight to MTTY without all of the other steps.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qazz~:
so i'll have to "update" the driver on my phone too for this to work?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
No, only pc.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] blackheart2925:
am running winXP ...tired running mtty directly after installing the activesync drivers for x86 from first page but i cant see the USB...i see only COM ports...COM1, COM2 etc...

my ROM/phone keeps on doing random hard resets by itself.... :-( only one ROM i have tried after the stock rom which ran fine for a while and then one day started this damn this...now it hard resets every couple of day!!!! i use my phone for work and i cant really afford this re-setup every few days...!!!! #@$#@Q$#@ windows mobile!!

i mean i understand about experiementing and all but without anything, poking or warez installations, it just keeps crashing and wiping out!!!

please help!

EDIT!!! the fix for XP in the first post worked!!!! :P
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] SiliconSquirrel:
Why would you install drivers on XP?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] blackheart2925:
thank!...i got that!! err the first post was not very clear...its said for all...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] SiliconSquirrel:
This means you dont need drivers for XP

This means everyone running Vista or Win 7, x86 or x64.

it would be stupid of the OP to state that it works without drivers on XP, then suggest that you need drivers for XP.

SS
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ilijan:
its problem if i have not 2003 but 2004 yeahr in device manager on wind 7 x86 after use win7x86? or not?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
No, I also have 2004 on w7 x86. As long as it's not 2007.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ilijan:
so its ok...

allready to use mtty...

before i used win 7 x64 and there i had 2003...

but if u say its ok... im gona flahs :)

thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] oldbonesmcgee:
I'm going to sound like a big noob here....

But can someone tell me (or link me to) what MTTY is and how it works and what it does. I gather from reading through this thread and what other people have said that it somewhat cleans and purifies the memory to make a nice base to flash onto. If someone could tell me that would be great and i think i'll give it a go.

(was i correct in thinking that someone had a problem with a custom rom where when trying to turn the device on out of sleep, the keypad lights would come on but the screen would remain black. And this was solved by mtty???)

Any help is always greatly appreciated, and i always add that if anyone needs any graphics designed/pictures made up just give me a shout.

Cheers

Dan
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
it does the same as formatting your hard disk on your pc. It wipes the memory area where your rom is flashed. (flashing a new rom doesnt wipe the old one, just flashes over it , potentially leaving old data 'sticking out' past the end of the new rom.)

No, different issue.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] band27:
The instructions are very clear as they are located on Post #2. Follow these instructions. Pictures are even included to assist with this process.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BladeKnight:
what does this mean?

Cmd>task 29

Format BINFS start

Fill RSVD information for block 497 to 530

CE start start block=530, total block=3566

erase_page - error bad status: 0xB791D500

ERASE block 1473 FAIL !!! I'M REALLY HAVING TROUBLE WTH THIS.....

TAG NOT FOUND !!! NOT CLEAR STORAGE !!!

Format BINFS end

after the exclamation icon i get this msg Not allow" 0028002....??? where did i go wrong?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Tokolosh:
i quote the First Post in this thread, incase you didnt have the time to read before asking:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BladeKnight:
can you tell me about this one sir?

Not allow" 0028002"
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] SiliconSquirrel:
MMMM

I wonder what this means?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
I use mtty all the time, and my drivers say 6 / 10 / 2004 on win7 x86. No problems.

great job, mystic. thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Dude, where are you getting this problem. You are posting the same question in the MTTY thread as well as in the HSPL thread and a new thread in General, so is it an error while running hspl or while running MTTY? Please post the query in the appropriate thread and not spam the board. You will not get help any faster by spamming and in fact everyone gets confused as to what the problem is, ie is it hspl or is it mtty.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BladeKnight:
i'm sorry

sorry sir if i'm using the 2 threads...just want to finish this problem of mine....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Yes and I'm busy helping you on the other thread. to have 2 threads going only confuses the matter. So lets continue this on the Flashing thread as it is more relevant there.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] firaX:
in case people are wondering about the "BAD BLOCK" error. It's quite normal for NAND Flash to have a few bad blocks. These simple get excluded from the filesystem, that's all.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cliver:
Probably a daft question but....

Hi Guys, Sorry if the sound obvious but I haven't used MTTY before and want to be sure before I chance building a brick :p.

In the second post where it talks about updating the drivers for active sync. I am using Mobile Device Centre. Is it the same process and is it ok to use the same drivers posted here? Or do I need to go back to active sync?

In the post where it says....

"2: Connect Device to PC via Active Sync, Once Connected Uncheck USB Connections,DISCONNECT DEVICE then Reboot Computer"

Is this refering to Mobile Device Centre/Mobile Device Settings/Connection Settings where I should uncheck allow usb connections?

Sorry again if I'm being a bit dim but I like to have all my duck lined up before I start shooting :p

Many thanks for all the great info and for any advice.

Regards

Clive
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] henv:
yeah you're right
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry655:
Hey guys, been trying to run the mtty for the past few days now with no luck. I went with the safe option of driver, the "tested and working version" for x64. but can't get the usb to show up in the first screen of the mtty. I do have the phone in bootloader with hspl & it is showing usb, as connected. tried the other x64 driver in the first post... that driver is infaact identical to x86 as driver file, hence why ppl have had probs using it.

Any clues fellas?

cheers, harry
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BladeKnight:
what OS are you using? are you using vista or win7?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry655:
win 7. man i must've gone over all the steps like a dozen times. its still tricky getting unsigned drivers installed when you have to do it more than once, but it Is doable
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] band27:
Try hitting F8 as your pc starts up until you see the choice of installing without sighed drivers. Should be the option near the end. Select that and see if this helps.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BladeKnight:
yep try that one pressing F8....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry655:
thanks guys,

I'll give that a go tonight at home
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qazz~:
will this void any warranties?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gianton:
hspl and flashing custom rom voids your warranty, not mtty they will never know.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry655:
F8 doesn't work for me guys, the option i get with F8 is what drive I wanna use to boot from.

I've reversed all the steps for the mobile device driver & started again but still can't get usb to show in the 1st window in mtty.exe.

just about ready to give up...

the other thing, does anyone know how to get out of bootloader (since I can't complete flashing) without pulling out the battery?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qazz~:
can someone fully explain part 2 to 4 of the driver installation part, i don't understand what i should do
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry655:
1st of all you should download all the nesecary files

i.e. Files Needed:

Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider

Remove Watermark V0.8,

mtty.exe & the active sync driver for your pc x86 Active Sync Drivers.zip orx64 AS Drivers Win 7 Tested & Working.zip

then I suggest you make the 1st page of the thread a homepage tab for quick access as you'll need to reboot a few times.

Then get a drink :o & begin uninterrupted

Just go through the steps, no rushing or you wont know where it went wrong:)

Hope it works for you

Oh & don't forget to read through the actual thread mate, whatever doesn't make sense for you will probably have been covered by someone else.

I think its fair to say that most guys here are very helpfull & considerate as long as noobs don't keep asking the same questions time after time, then they get frustrated & we get nothing...;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qazz~:
sry, i wasn't so specific and u gave me the wrong info, i need help pertaining to this :

2: Connect Device to PC via Active Sync, Once Connected Uncheck USB Connections,DISCONNECT DEVICE then Reboot Computer

3: Bring device into bootloader (Reset + Hold Vol Down), This will show the Red, Blue, Green screen showing "Serial" - Once Computer booted, connect device in bootloader mode to USB, the word "Serial" will change to "USB"

4: Go to "Control Panel -> System -> Device Manager" and select Microsoft Usb Sync in Mobile Devices section (NOTE: This MAY say HTC USB Sync but as long as you select your device!!):

especially part 2 where it says uncheck your device, where should i uncheck it from ? thx for thehelp in advance
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
What operating system are you using and do you have Activesync or WMDC?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qazz~:
using Vista 32bit

WMDC i think the green colored one
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Ok, make sure you have upgraded to the latest version (6.1 I think)

Connect your phone to WMDC and then click on Mobile Device Settings - Connection settings and then untick Allow USB connections
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qazz~:
ok thx will try tomorow, half of the time my com won't luanch WMDC and it deosnt detect it as a phone so i can only view my memcard in the phone weird thing is that when i run HSPL it senses my phone even when WMDC does not
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qazz~:
just one more question, can mtty be used to just clear the rom or itcan only be done before u flash a new ROM?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cliver:
No expert but I do a soft reset and it seems to work for me :p