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[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
hm, don't you have problems with the existing arrow gestures? They are more error prone than the simple swipes for me!? So I thought about replacing all arrows with double swipes (up/down, down/up, left/right and right/left).

My idea is to have gestures which work nearly 100% of the time.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aussiebum:
Speaking of working 100% of the time, do you mind putting HTCVolume as a default in the close blacklist? I managed to kill it with a double swipe up accidentally today :p

Also, I've noticed LMT sometimes interpreting my Opera pinch-zooms as a "close" command (because I swipe up and down at an slight angle when I pinch-zoom)... a way to adjust gesture interpretation threshold would be handy (either that or just more accurate recognition)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
This isn't an LMT problem, but it would be really great if you could somehow incorporate a back feature for Opera 10.

Opera 10 doesn't even work with the hardware back button so it's not an issue with LMT, but if there is a way to hardcode a back function it would be very useful IMO.

Keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
Regarding the double arrows I totally agree with converting them to back-and-forth double swypes, they are faster, easier, and as far as I understood, you'r planning to add also up-down and down-up double swypes, so that's cool! :)

Regarding single finger gestures... very much ok converting square to circle... and the circle could be pimped up a lot; the faster and simple to do is a gesture, the better for LMT, so this is the idea: remove current square gesture, and add the following one-finger gestures:

1) circle starting up clockwise

2) circle starting up counter-clockwise

3) circle starting down clockwise

4) circle starting down counter-clockwise

they are fast, they are simple, they are also quite distinguishable since they involve completely opposite movements, so no room for errors in recognition :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gnash.s:
wow, that's a whole lot of cool simple gestures with a circle. not sure, if the circle starting down can be captured separately from up. but it would be great.

Yes, the smaller program will be more accurate and responsive.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aBE-One:
OMFG! How did I miss this so long!?

This is now THE BEST app on my HD2! Amazing work, l3v5y, I'll be dropping a beer for you when I get to my computer, that's for sure!

EDIT: Donated!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] d3l1:
I just installed LMT to give it a try and maybe I'm stupid or so because the gestures work fine but the screen becomes unresponsive. I can use all my hardware buttons and do gestures which effectively just open or close the taskmanager :) but the screen is completely unresponsive. I have to do a soft reset and the phone works again.

what am I doing wrong?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
hm, what do you mean with "unresponsive". Is the touch input completely disabled? LMT is able to deactivate the whole touch screen or only a within a bounding box. It is used for the controller feature. Perhaps there is still a bug in the code!?

Which LMT version did you install? Is it a "always problem"? Or is there a special usecase?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] d3l1:
I installed the newest version 0.7 and the whole screen is unresponsive as soon as I start LMT via the start menu shortcut. I can't do anything except gestures and soft reset the phone via the button under the battery cover. No input on the touch screen is recognized.

I tried it on CleanEX HQ 4.28 ROM (WM 6.5, Manila 2.5.2012) if that helps.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Perhaps the installer could not set all required reg values. Can you please have a look into the registry? Go to HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH. Is there a reg value called "LockTouch"? If not, please create a string value called "LockTouch" with the following value: "0,0,480,800" and start LMT. Does LMT work now?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] d3l1:
I just switched my ROM today, I will test later or next few days
[Windows Mobile Software Development] heybhouse:
it kind of works but mostly doesn't for me (HD2, T-Mobile, USA). It doesn't remember the swipes and they all end up taking me back to the home page. great idea and i'm glad it works for most folks. thanks for the hard work!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Perhaps LMTs reg values are messed up!? It seems to me, that on some systems, LMTs installer is not able to write the correct/initial reg values. Can you please have a look into the registry (HKCU\Software\LMT)? Can you post your all entries?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] heybhouse:
thanks for the help. i've been playing with it a lot more and i think my problem isn't that it doesn't remember the assigned programs but i'm not able to assign the programs. in the reg editor, all swipes lead to shell32.exe. i'm probably doing something wrong but i followed a video from pocketnow (they used .5 and i have .7). also, is it possible to link swipes to folders and not just programs? thanks!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Assigning apps to gestures via learn mode should work!? What are you doing in detail? When all gestures are connected to shell32.exe it seems to me that you do the learn gesture and the following "connection gesture" is always done on the home screen!?

You should do the following: Open the app you want to connect to a gesture (It must be in foreground!). Do the “double question mark” and then the gesture you want to connect the fg app with. Done...

Folders: You can e.g. open fexplore with the path to a folder as an argument. So e.g. "\windows\fexplore.exe,\storage card" will open the explorer with current folder "storage card".

Btw: You can only assign arguments when you edit LMTs behaviour via registry: "HKCU\Software\LMT".
[Windows Mobile Software Development] heybhouse:
here's a sample of what i'm doing. i open up tasks (in foreground), do double question mark (sign comes up), do double arrow right (that sin comes up). when i close tasks and go to home screen and try a double right arrow, nothing happens. i checked the registry after and it's unchanged. any suggestions? thanks!

i did get one to work (a gesture to open resco explorer) but can't get any other to work. =/
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
that's different.

If you are trying to associate the windows mobile task manager to a gesture, keep in mind it's an instantiation of a general process, started with some parameters after the exe. probably that's why you get "shell32.exe" in the registry.

If you need a functional task manager, I'd suggest you use either arkswitch or mmtaskmanager (the one I use), associating gestures to them should work.

Anyway, I'd also advice to manually associate gestures by using the registry instead of the double question mark, just edit the registry keys typing in manually the name of the app. That way, you free up double question mark, so you can manually associate it to something else and effectively obtain a new gesture to play with :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] HTCHD2_2010:
I agree with you there!

However, just to let you know that the simple double swipes left/right

currently sometimes give me trouble especially when i am inside HTC Album then

try to swipe but as soon as i touch the screen it activate the photos before

the double swipe action. But not always. I found a way to always get it right

by either quickly hard press on the screen to have the swipe recognizes before

the Album touch screen sensor kick in.

Anyway, i am very happy with LMT appl as is right now. I am using 0.7 with the update exe so consider it 0.75 version.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
the trick is to have your fingertips touch the screen at the exact same time, and it's true for every single double gesture on LMT, not quite easy considering our fingers do not have all the same length ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] heybhouse:
i got it working using the reg editor. thanks! i agree though, it's easy to accidentally launch a program at the end of the swipe.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Nafi33:
Hey guys, LMT launcher is a piece of great work, very nice.

I only have a few problems with the d-pad.

I read noname's post here so I decided to post here.

I want to use the d-pad with the flash games, I make a square and the d-pad opens when the flash game is in portrait and I can use it. So the d-pad works in portrait. But if I turn to landscape (have done that with BsB tweaks) the d-pad disappears and if I draw a square again it doesn't come up. So I can't use it in landscape. Please could you help me.

If this could be fixed it means we can play almost every flashgame (which requires touch (mouse on PC) and/or d-pad (arrow keys on PC))

That will be a great improvement with regard of gaming.

Hope you guys can fix this.

If this will work maybe you can simplify the d-pad for flash games only so we've got only arrow keys and possibly a space bar too.

Hope this isn't much work for you guys, I think this will be much appreciated by everyone.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tonyk:
hi m8, i answered you in the post with flash games too.

when you enable the lmt launcher d-pad, there is an R key. push this and it rotates and you have a landscape d-pad.

try it and tell me if you managed it :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] heybhouse:
too bad the key pad doesn't work with pocketgameboy. know any that does?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
it probably works, and you just need to assign the correct macro values to the buttons, via the registry... takes a little digging but should be ok
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
This won't work because I deactivate the controller when the screen is auto rotated. LMT has currently problems with drawing overlays in "real" landscape mode...

I finished all changes for v0.8 except this issue. Give me some days and I’ll try to fix this problem. When it can be solved, it will help the controller and will make LMTs gestures rotation aware (they will work correctly in landscape mode) :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Nafi33:
OK mate, good luck:D

I hope you can fix this soon.

Can't wait for the update:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
can we have a short taste of those? ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gnash.s:
+1 :)

can't wait for the next update..
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dinguznomad:
Single touch gestures

...so on HD2, w/LMT 0.7

?!?single touch gestures enabled (1) in registry?

AND ....

what the what and how do i do anything with one hand ...

do i add REG strings of "bottom to top line SINGLE" ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tonyk:
i would like too, someone to explain how we can make single touch gestures to make them work.

thanks !!!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] zalaros:
LMT launcher works great on my Hd Mini ;) Thank you very much :D I would like to link commands like cut copy paste on Lmt gestures. Can this be done? Any idea?

EDIT: I've managed to do that by using a program called VJKeyPress which can be found here: http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJKeyPress
[Windows Mobile Software Development] PhilGood06:
Hi noname81 :)

Sorry I missed your last week's post in flash games thread, I just saw it...

I've seen you are aware of the problem with flash games in landscape mode (thanks Nafi33) and I'm really glad you're gonna fix it , can't wait for the new release ^^

Thanks for this great App. and keep on this good work :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
The problem is fixed. :-) Now LMTs controller works also in landscape mode. All the gestures are also rotation aware and there will be new gestures in v0.8.

Now I have to test the new features a little bit and I have to write a better howto for post #1. Then I'll release v0.8...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Osama Shah:
While in Learn mode, by accident i set double line up to open an app, it was originally set to close an app. how can I return it back to default or make it "learn" again to close apps on double line up gesture.. Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
You can only restore it via registry... :-( Navigate with a reg editor to HKCU\Software\LMT and set the string for reg value "BottomToTopLineDouble" to "Learn" again.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
He meant to set it to CloseApp :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Thanks! "closeApp", "Learn" or all the other internal commands... :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Osama Shah:
Thanks both of you!! guess I'll have to wait till v0.8 till the whole guide comes out and I can know the internal commands too!!

You were a lot of help, got it to closing apps again! :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
noway :p

Just download 0.7, the whole list of commands is in the first post, read it carefully.

If you really want to get the best out of this tool, edit the registry to set it, that way you can reassign the learn gesture to something else and have yet one more gesture to play with :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dinguznomad:
Single touch still a mystery

i love this app on HD2

BUT

"single touch gestures" elude me could anyone guide me through the setup / USE*?

not being able to use this with one hand is a bummer
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
In v0.7 there are only two single touch gestures: "Delete" and "Square" (see screenshot on first post). They are activated by default. Just draw these gestures with one finger...

There is also a feature called "TapAndHoldGestureSupport". With this feature you are able to draw all dual touch gesture with one finger: Just tap with one finger somewhere on the screen and draw "one part" of the mt gesture with another finger. Then release the tapped finger and the gesture will be recognized (You have to enable this feature via registry).

Hope this helps...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Nafi33:
Wow, great mate!:)

When will you release v0.8?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Finished writing the new post #1 howto and just sent the new version to l3v5y. Hope he can upload it soon... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noellenchris:
Thanks a ton, can't wait for new version...:D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] clockcycle4mobile:
Can't wait too! It's the first application I install everytime I flash a new ROM!! Simply great!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] lemonspeakers:
I accidentiall went to the registry editor and deleted the Double question mark learning mode to a value of 0. Now my LMT launcher can't learn.

I cant remember the original value. Can anyone give it to me? Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] lemonspeakers:
Nvm I just found out that I had to input the word "Learn" to restore it. tahnks!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gnash.s:
yea!!! can't wait to draw the circles :) thanks a lot mate
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Nafi33:
Still no release :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] qpr1991:
ControllerKeys is there a list of the reg values of each key i know what a-z and 1-9 is but what value is space bar.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] demon-resident:
this is great app, but where can I find all possible value list?

How can I know what to configure in registry?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
All the internal commands are listed in the changelog (post #1). Or wait till v0.8 is online with a new howto on post #1. Hop l3v5y can upload the new version soon. I'll PM him again...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Please google for "Keys and Key Codes for Windows Mobile" and click the first msdn article. There should be a list of all available codes. Use only decimal values for the reg string "ControllerKeys".
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
uhm would that be "unpolite" to upload that version as an attachment in a post over here to let us lurkers get it right away? ;) (hint hint)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
I'll do that today in the evening (after work)...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mirakle:
Just to say that I have it installed on my hd2 and been using it for a few days, and I totally like it. :D

Thank you very much.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gnash.s:
Thank you so much! I know I'm going to hit this thread at least 10-20times from now to the evening :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
Never before I wished someone "have a nice job" with more of a positive attitude :D

...or rather go top of the page, look for thread tools and select subscribe to this thread and choose mail subscription, even if I'd rather go for standard subscription, and then go check the User CP once in a while, like I'm doing for ~57 discussions over here :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Just to warn you: :D I didn't implement the circle gesture in v0.8 because the gesture was hard to do (I tested it...). So I decided to implement a diamond gesture which works really good. You can nearly draw a circle on the screen and it will be recognized as a diamond. Strange, but it has something to do with LMTs internal recognition engine...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
yay first! :D

err I kind of miss the download link ;)

You may also want to check the date in the post's title :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
done... :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
...super! :D

Installing it in a hurry

Also, these are the settings I use in morphgear's REG file that I saved into SASHIMI's Auto\REG folder:

"vkA"=dword:00000060
"vkB"=dword:00000061
"vkDown"=dword:00000027
"vkL"=dword:00000062
"vkLeft"=dword:00000028
"vkR"=dword:00000063
"vkRight"=dword:00000026
"vkSelect"=dword:0000000c
"vkStart"=dword:0000000d
"vkUp"=dword:00000025
"vkX"=dword:00000064
"vkY"=dword:00000065

EDIT:

LOVE the double swypes instead of the arrows, they seem to work 100% of the times, also love the diamond, you actually just need to do a circle and it very often get recognized ;) If you instead try and do a "broken circle" as it practically is, the accuracy increases... now I have too many gestures in my hands... literally :)

I do have some issues with the Rotate command, which I am using only now with this version of LMT: when I use it, S2U2 seems to get messed up, no matter if I rotate back the scren, inside S2U2's screen of after unlocking the device, S2U2 always appears as rotated, uhm. (NVM, did a softreset, tried rotating again several times to mess it up, rotating several times both in unlocked device and on the lockscreen, S2U2 seems to stay in portrait no matter what, so all is good until now :D)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] waynez777:
Could I disable LMT when the screen is locked? I'm using v0.7 and I realize the guestures can still open apps even the phone is locked.

I know there is a value in the registry as "BlackListAll" but what can I input to add the windows lockscreen or Manila lock screen. Please help!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
can't help you on that, sorry... but just out of curiosity, how does the ability to activate gestures on a lockscreen give you problems? Seriiously, do you find yourself to accidentally trigger gestures when lockscreen is active?

THe only activity that you usually do on a lockscreen is tap on icons (with S2U2) or slide the unlocker, when you're not pushing the "off" hardware button to turn off the display because you just needed to check the time ;)

Obviously when the display is off, gestures won't be triggered if that's what you're afraid of

EDIT @noname81

BTW, just tried the Lock function; it launches the standard lockscreen even if I have S2U2 installed... can that be changes so that it triggers whatever lock utility is active on "endbutton leypress"?

EDIT2: nvm, silly of me, I just realized I could associate "s2u2.exe" to DiamondDouble instead of "Lock" :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Unfortunately there is no easy way to archieve this: The normal lockscreen is done by gwes.exe. So if you add "\windows\gwes.exe" to BlackListAll, there will be no gesture recognition on lockscreen but also not on home screen, etc.! If there is more than one request for that feature, I'll implement it. Just a 5 min. task... :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gnash.s:
Hello noname81,

The new version is awesome. thank you! I am so confused with all the new gestures, that I didn't know what to assign for each gesture :) finally figured it out.

I have a question tho' - I could not make the Diamond & DiamondDouble gestures successfully. Is there any easy way/tip? :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
You have to start at the bottom and draw the diamond clockwise. I decided to define the gesture as described, because starting on top interfered with the square gesture... Does it work now?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gnash.s:
Yes, you are awesome. I don't know what to assign for these extra gestures now :) thank you!

one more question, do you use the Controller? I know we can use it in the flash games, but couldn't really select the menus, etc. when controller is enabled. How do you typically use it, I mean your usage? Also, Can we use this in the regular 3rd party games like Asphalt4, NeedForSpeed,..?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
I use the controller for morphgear and FPSEce! :D Some people complained about a "lag" when using LMTs controller, but I don't recognize it. Do you notice a responsive lag?

With the "R" button you can switch between partial and full screen lock when using LMTs controller. So you're able to "touch" the menus in the games. If you have to touch "behind" the controller buttons, you have to close the controller and restart it after that. :-(

You can use LMTs controller in any game which has no problem with directdraw overlays (e.g. pocketGBA has problems with this technique). But most of the new games are only designed for touch input. If you can't control a game with the keyboard/keypad, LMTs controller won't work with that game.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gnash.s:
ha, got it. thanks for the reply and no, I don't see any lag either.

On the side note though, I don't have that many PS1 games. I have a PSP, so I tend to play on that instead of the phone. Also, I don't know how to convert psp games to HD2.

The new LMT version is a nice improvement, Thanks. I'll keep watching this space for future updates. Have a great weekend!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sociojeje:
well...

it crashed after i do some move on the lock screen. and never goes away...

well... keep crashing..

Do you happen to have any plan to separate the gamepad function?

No offense but I just want the function for my emulators...

Still great work!@!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Sorry, but the controller uses core functions from LMT (multitouch, filtering, etc.). So no plans to extract the controller. But if you give me more infos, we can find the problem.

- Which LMT version are you running?

- Which lockscreen are you using?

- Which gesture/command causes the problem on the lockscreen?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] toxicstone:
cant even to get it work, i restart the phone, start the program and nothing happens:S
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Osama Shah:
The X single finger gesture locks the screen, but brings forth the windows default lock screen. I think he is using cookies home tab with the CHT lock screen and he put the phone in learn mode and then activated the CHT lock screen and made a gesture.. the problem is that LMT does not activate the CHT lock screen and instead hangs. I had the same problem so just restarted and removed the gesture to activate this lockscreen and made my peace with the activation of the default lock screen and all was fine. :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Osama Shah:
LMT runs by default.. did you try performing the gestures??? :cool: