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[Touch HD Themes and Apps] :
thanks, didn't noticed his donation account as i recently checked this thread.

Thumbs up MAXYCY, great work.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] aksilvershadow:
Is it possible to change font color throughout sense? some wallpapers i use make it hard to see the text within sense exspecially on the home screen.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Wil Badger:
Changing the font color would be no different then changing it on what ever rom you are running currently.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lukem:
why don't we try to study graphically the home layout inspired by windows 7 theme? I mean, flat -minimalistic rectangels....

I do understand that the project was inspired by Android, but layout seems now more similar to the windows 7 one.....it would be nice to have also similar graphics...

Sorry, it's just an idea....
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] acidbath5546:
Some of us that our Beta Testing are also doing Themes...

And once it is Public I am sure that other Devs will add skins/themes like what u are talking about.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] aksilvershadow:
Well thats just it. Ive asked in and searched many threads but have never seen or heard of any cab file or registry tweak that would allow me to do so. I apologize if this question doesnt seem to go along with this thread but would sincerely like to know. Especially since ill definately be using MaxSense as soon as it is released.:confused:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] millski:
It seems to me that the font colour is controlled by a script in manila, usually lua. Each item has its own script. So changing the font on the home tab would require hunting down the lua script font colour entries for each area - taskbar, softkey bar, alarm, calendar, call history, weather header, weather description, date, time, quicklinks etc etc. There's just too many of them (and that's just for 1 tab) and a lot of them haven't been found anyway, which is the reason you can't find a cab or tweak anywhere. The GTX Sense theme has different colour fonts though; they may be able to hit you up with some info.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] aksilvershadow:
Ty for ur time and info.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Mahagon Coral:
This looks really good!

Can't wait for release and themes ^^

This is my last hope on Windows Mobile ... if this should fail, I'll buy an Android device pretty soon -_-
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] auTONYmous:
Quoted for emphasis.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fKngFtd:
This is very nice.... Love the layout, design, and functions. I was browsing threw the ERIS forums and came across acidbath, saw the sig and had to see what it was about. Cant wait till it hits the ERIS. Good work, and look forward to seeing what it is capable of when complete.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] acidbath5546:
Glad you stopped by :)

But unfortunatley this is for WinMo and not Android...

I work on both OS's.

Sorry.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fKngFtd:
Ah, Sounds like I will have to get a WinMO device also.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] acidbath5546:
LOL.....Yep :) Get a Touch Pro 2...Verizon is selling them cheap cheap right now :)

Back on topic....
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] kuzibri:
Indication

I know there are a lot of questions about the ETA of a beta release of this project and I also know that the answer usually is "when it is finished". Therefore, I would like to propose something else:

I think/am convinced that a lot of the aforementioned questions can be avoided when Maxy would be willing to give an indication/answer of the time he needs to be ready to release a beta version of his pet project. Whenever he would do that, people are more inclined to wait for the estimated time of release without asking questions. Another problem is that Maxy himself does not answer questions about this issue instead of that usually Milski does that.

Of course this can mean dat Maxy is too busy finilazing his pet project, but it would be nice if Maxy himself would respond to certain questions. This will lead IMHO to more understanding for the time he needs to release a public version.

Kind regards, Kuzibri
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] millski:
Must... resist... urge... to... reply... Oh bugger :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Gustopher:
@millski - great try, we all felt your struggle not to reply and are deeply sorry that you lost

@kuzibri - your suggestion is no doubt well intentioned (and hell's teeth friend, we are all gagging for a go on maxycy's new toy) but setting any date - conservative or optimistic - sets expectations, which very quickly and even with the very best will in the world metamorphose into hard, guilt-edged, cast-iron promised around delivery in the minds of the many. When that deadline passes, the accusations start flying...again...

SPB have very successfully declined to give deadlines for their releases for exactly this reason - people gripe, but they have not missed a single deadline recently...!

I'm trying to think of this project like a pregnant wife. You don't know when the happy event will happen, only that it most certainly will in its own good time and that it will be well worth waiting for.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] acidbath5546:
@Gustopher

LOL....Well said sir...it is coming along well guys...just hang in there :)

@millski

It is so so so very hard to not reply sometimes.....Good try...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] kuzibri:
second the reaction of Gustopher!! Already pleased that you did not answer "when it is finished". On the other hand, your reaction is, euphemistic mode on, no answer to my question, euphemistic mode off.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] shadowhawk2020:
I sometimes wonder if they would release it, if they could go one day without someone asking ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] kuzibri:
asking what???
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mlin:
I imagine that once this beautiful project is released, it will be nicely polished. Based on knowing some of the beta testers on this project, they are knowledgeable members who I know will put MaxSense "through the ringers" so that it will be nicely optimized with great implementaions, as we have already seen in the videos. Thanks Maxycy for your hard work and genius!

BTW, out of curiosity, how many members are on the beta testing team?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Wil Badger:
I am not by any means on the team but from my understanding.......If you like the functions of Manila and Sense then you will enjoy this. It uses a good bit of the structure as far as the tabs go and their functions. The real changes are the heavy optimization of the existing manila, a full rebuild of the home page and how it functions, it's quick links to different things from the tabs, to the notifications, program quick links.......etc.etc. If you are expecting a whole new shell like SPB this is not it.

Am I pretty close to what is going on?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] siraloz:
Asking what???

Asking for the ETA.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] shadowhawk2020:
Bingo! I want this thing bad, but I am willing to wait patiently while it is finalized.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] R^7Z:
Honestly, I believe if everyone did in-fact stop asking for an ETA on this, hell would actually freeze over and cease to exist! :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Smobbo:
Very true ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] blantoncg:
Good Work!

Just wanted to say once again that you are doing some GREAT work maxcy, keep up the good work, and I'm very eager to try this out. A new great update has came out for you Manila 2.5 mod lovers, It's not really new but just recently had a huge update, here it is: Co0kie's Home Tab 1.7
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] acidbath5546:
There are 9 of us :)

Then Max...He kinda counts for 3 experienced users ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] acidbath5546:
LOL...Shamless Plug :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] acidbath5546:
Your pretty right...

It is essentially Maxycy complete re-working of Manila 2.5...and in the end it comes out like a sort of hybrid UI....

The best way to put it:

If Android and Sense Manila 2.5 had a beautiful son/daughter, and its Godfather was Windows Mobile, when it grew up it would be Max Sense!!!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dragonreborn:
Brilliantly put ... :D

Waiting "impatiently" for the release
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] donny_79:
dag dig dug..

waiting for this
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] modembug:
just thought id get this out of the way for today (in best whiney voice) "When is this gonna be done guys I can't wait anymore!"

haha, sorry didn't see any of those today...:rolleyes:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] simzz:
After the release of WP7.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] spitfire122:
i'll be happy to test/debug..

MOD EDIT: be nice, further usage of foul lang will result in a ban.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Crossxcalibur:
Yes, this sort of language goes a long way in getting someone who does this for free to throw everything else to the side to get this done just because of your impatience.

There are plenty of other things to play with until this is done. Go check out the many ROM's available at PPCGEEKS and also the latest version of Cookie Home.

Be mindful that Maxy has put painstaking effort for the past few years into many upgrades that have benefited this community greatly. He deserves respect. Please show that. It will be released when it is released.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] hello00:
Very well done. I'd be very happy to help maxx with the graphics. I've already pmed max. Count me in! (:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] uqo11:
When comes the next vid? :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] andes83:
Just one suggestion make an option that switches off all animation I bet it will be faster and a lot of users will benefit from it I know how much 2.5 takes from the HD and slows all things down.I really like Leo animated stuff but it's really annoying when HD hicks up on it and gets lazy.Fast is the future :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Wil Badger:
I wouldn't worry about that. Yes manila is a hog but it can be handled. Knowing Max this will have no problems with lag.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dragonpluto:
6 movies uploaded already and no beta version yet... I think I'll check back this thread next year LOL.....
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Gustopher:
Be sure to do that. Do make sure it's no more than a year though as I'm concerned that the rest of us will struggle to muddle by without contributions of this quality...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] hello00:
Lmao..that just made my day.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] allex234432:
This project, has reminded me the Russian manufacture of cars, in other words to tell, while will make a beard to the earth will grow. To authors, I wish good luck...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] spectheintro:
. . . What?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] stianbert:
preview

WHY make a tread for 3 months preview....? dont annonse something before its almost ready for release. Looks like its ready to use and why cant we be a part of it. Waiting.......:) If we are lucky touchxperience is released before;)

i dont think so, but maxy release a BETA soon:)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] R^7Z:
I was just about to check to see if hell had frozen over but looks like you saved the day! ;) :D

Honestly, I could care less when he releases it... Seems he's got beta testers that he can rely on, why would he release it for public use...:confused:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Maringer:
By God, there are some drama queens on this board!

If Max doesn't think MaxSense is ready for release yet then no amount of whinging or moaning will change his mind. I'd rather wait another couple of months for a more stable release than face being tantalised with something which looks fantastic but is too unstable for everyday use!

Just as long as Max isn't spending too much time fiddling with the minutiae when the basics of the interface are solid... ;) :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Smobbo:
Patience is a virtue...

I'm under the impression that XDA-developers is a forum for people who want to develop and update/change their devices, however lately it is starting to transform into a consumers forum... People only come here to get the best features or complain when something doesn't work :(.

I hope the developers will keep in mind that the vast majority of the board is still very thankful for all the hard work that is being put into making our phones the most complete as possible :D!

Keep up the good work Max and take your time!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] patience88:
I totally agree with this

Thanx for all Max and take all the time you need
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dkaka2k:
Take your time Max

It teases, but we "MUST" wait...Max, ball's in your court!- thanks for your hard work. :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] VistaOpfer:
Is it possible to post that remark in ENGLISH please?

If not... I don't think we miss much! :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] siraloz:
My guess is:

By the time this thing is made, even the Earth will have grown a beard...

Probably indicating that it will take a long time. I dunno. Never heard of earth growing a beard. But then, there's the Amazon. Maybe those are pubes. :-)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] AlienHairball:
I took it as by the time this is done he'll have grown a beard all the way to the ground.

And on that helpful note I'll duck and run. :D

p.s. - love the videos and while I'm anxious to get my hands on a beta I don't feel entitled to it in any way so take whatever time you want or need. :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] siraloz:
I think you are right. Makes more sense. MaxSense makes the most sense, though! :-)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] piranah:
it does seem a little odd that it looks fully functional in the video. i know there are quite a few beta testers, but everybody seems to be waiting for this, while it looks fully functional. im sure there are a few bugs, but thats why you release something, so they get figured out. i doubt many people will slam it if there are a few bugs, i think we have all come to expect them in something as monumental as this.

at least let us know what we are waiting for to get fixed, or something...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] uqo11:
I'm also a developer but only for PC and i know a video looks good. But you put only a perfect video online so it looks good but maybe there are many bugs.

@Maxy, are you still developing? i don't hear any progress ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] acidbath5546:
It is still under Development. And it is coming along quite well, and gets better and better as things progress.

Please bear in mind that people also have lives and things to do outside of XDA :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] AlienHairball:
Well people obviously need to get their priorities straight then. :p
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] sk8boardd:
WOW cant wait for it to be finished. great work/idea.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] R^7Z:
Will be sending something your way once I get my hands on it!!! :cool:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bugzy:
very promising!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Wajk:
:eek: very cool, thnx your work :cool:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bobboviking:
amazing!

amazing ui, very clean! a suggestion is to keep it very android-like for the first stable build, then release more customizable versions?

If this gets stable i'm sure it's going to be huuuuge! Finally there's some hope for a nice windows mobile interface!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] crazaytalent:
wow...pretty impressive... love how you can make the clock just come up when u want it by tapping the bottom right soft key... and then keeping the tabs all streamline in one page makes it pretty convenient... sometime having to slide to find what i want is a pain so it'll be nice to just have it laid out in one page and just have a quick tap to access what i want.

than use the additional pages for widgets or whateve... maybe some sort of browser/search/ social network kiosk on one...

it definatly has a lot of potential... Maxcy does some really good work! cant wait to see more

vga compatibility?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] EGOvoruhk:
How about a pull down notification thing similar to Android? It looks like you're not going to be using the tab/slider thing that's normally in Sense 2.1/2.5, so maybe you could incorporate the info that's normally on the slider icons into a top pull down bar. I'd love to be able to pull down the "shade" and read my newest text/e-mail, disconnect my data connection, and maybe even see general WinMo system messages/notifications (Alarms, alerts, etc) or a task manager. Stock HTC ROMs already have something similar, but I'd like to see it a little bit more interactive, and smooth like your programs pull up menu
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Silverdragondk:
I'm just gonna throw this out there, but is it possible to make something similar to the UI of the Lenovo U1 in tablet form? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5DYuVN6nuY

I know it's running on a snapdragon with linux, so I'm not asking for a clone, but something similar, if at all possible, would be great.

Anyway, I was wondering if it was possible to do what you're doing now maxycy, so my deepest respect for doing this. You really are "the man".

Regards
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ceesheim:
wow max this is really looking cool :D.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] maxycy:
Thks again for the feedback so far. I've make some progresses but also got some bad news. First, let me explain the UI concept here.

Main Screen - Tab Launcher

You can see all the 12 tabs icons on the screen which will navigate you immediately to the tabs. It will have 2 other screens (left and right) as you see on my movie. Bottom button will open up what I call the Application Launcher. You can have up to 25 quicklinks here. Works like your shortcuts. Left button supposedly opens up settings panel (still working out the concept). Right button opens up a menu list ( for eg, wallpaper change and other options which I'm adding in)

Good news is this part is completed and fully functional. :D:D

Clock Screen

This is where your clock and all notification indicators will be here. When an alert comes, it will automatically scrolls out to display the message and miniminzed when none.

I'm still undecided where I should put this yet. Right now, you can see that I have it located on the left side of the screen but the weather panel has slowdown the speed considerably and I may consider using this as a lock screen instead.

I'm reserving another screen for information and settings panel.

And, yes....I've planned to have the top bar scroll down like in Nexus. :p

Ok....that's the progress right now. Still a long way to go. ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] gianton:
Once finished will be fantastic, thanks again for your hard work mate! :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] chasy:
To me, those are just good news :D

Does the weather panel slow down the system even when it's static?

All the notification "slider" on the left would make it look a little bit too much "left-orientated" ..

but to be honest .. i have no better idea :/
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jjohnson1701:
I really, really like this UI. If/when I get a touch screen phone, I will install this post-haste! As far as suggestions, I would suggest to change the app icon to a straight white Windows icon, as that would essentially be the start menu. Also, "pages" within the start menu would be nice...something like this:

-flick up the app menu to get all apps, alphabetically, or date added, with a little text up top-left saying "all"

-swipe right to get 'office' and have only the MS Office apps on it.

-swipe again right to get 'games' and have only games on it.

-on any of these menus you can scroll through your apps using an up/down swipe just like on any menu. So if I have 150 apps on the machine, I can scroll through the app launcher all the way to #150.

Something like that would be more 'organized' to me, and then the actual screens we swipe left/right would be where we put our most used apps.

I like the gear to access settings, which makes sense; could the other be a phone to go directly to the dialer? That would make it easy to access across any screen.

I'd say have a left screen be the 'widget screen' - put the big clock, the last 4 apps used, weather, appointments, and all alerts (mail, SMS, missed calls, voicemail - icons with a # bubble over them)

A lock screen like WinMobile 6.5 would be nice and useful - swipe the different locks to go directly to that app.

If you're thinking of apps to include, an RSS reader, e-book reader, and a media player would be great. Even better if the media player imitated the Zune interface.

Does this UI utilize an accelerometer to tell if it should rotate the screen to landscape mode?

...these are just a few ideas I had. I like this UI so far and look forward to seeing it evolve!

James
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] jjohnson1701:
Also, a persistent clock on the top right, as well as a signal, battery, 3G, wifi icons up top would be good.

And for contacts, I had an idea of how that would look, but I'm not a programmer. I can do mock-ups, but no real programming. I was thinking something like this:

profile picture at the top left quarter of the screen. Right of this, the name, e-mail, phone number. Underneath, a profile tab, then four tabs to see call history with this contact, e-mail history, text history, and schedule history. On the profile, show address (and a button to map it on Bing, relatives (within contacts, with mini-pics that link to that other person's profile in your contacts), and other general info.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] gdem3685:
Max great job. My opinion is that there is enough space in the Main Screen to add the Clock there. it can perfectly fit in the empty space there. i think it woulb be much better to have it in the main screen since we sometimes wake up the phone to see the time and notifications and then put it in sleep mode. Now Having to wake up the phone, unlock and turn to the left page sounds not so usefull. In my opinion:

Clock on the Top with notifications in the main screen is a must!!!!!

Less buttons with the ability to change the arange of them (8??) in the home screen so everyone can just add there the most useable buttons for their needs,

Left and Right screen Fully adjustable to everybodys needs.

Think this will be more like SPB Shell but Sensinh!!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Irishpride:
Amazing work! I've been hoping someone would take the best aspects of both WM6.5.x and Android to make a Super-UI, it looks like your on the way to doing just that. One question I had was how customizable would the screens to the left and right of the main screen be? If it is going to be based somewhat off Android, the ability to customize is huge. Also, love the idea of making a slide down/curtain notifications bar.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ziupo:
maxycy - what do you think about my proposal about clock like in Motorola Droid? And what about landscape mode? Yet here I miss the battery level and scope (such as strokes or sign in Nokia GPRS, EDGE, 3G, HSDPA, etc). Expect them?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] HD2_Noob:
This looks Awesome =)

Is this still Manila or do you developed it from scratch? ;)

Will it be available for HD2 too? :-P
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] srgudhka:
are you gonna make a qvga version
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] cesium:
If you make a VGA version you'll get a nice donation from me :D
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] acidbath5546:
LMAO....

Touche' ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] R^7Z:
XDA is the last place I visit in my day...

:cool:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] sumedh_vsk:
you do have a point but i believe that these complaints indeed help the developers build their best stuff....:D:D:D...coz its always possible for the developers to miss out something...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Remco-:
wow, this definitely looks more than interesting.

If you need a BETA tester... I suffer from ORD, so happy to help ^^