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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] huggs:
Why is Astro built in ?

Is there some functionality that the Astro file manager offers that the others dont? The reason I ask is because it says I have an outdated version and makes me wait like 400 seconds to use it. So I updated it in the market today and it still says its outdated and makes me wait. I installed the OI file manager and it seems to work pretty good, with no wait. ??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
Anyone who was having issues with the AOSP .cab can you test this one for me and let me know the results? It works just fine for me, but so did the old one.

Thx

http://www.filefront.com/16268525/ProjectAndroid 2.1AOSP 042610.cab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] devilcuban:
How do i install this ? :p lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] demandarin:
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [04/23] 2.1 BUILDS

I tested this out. it works. it let's me pick from either Home, Sense, or Launcher. I was able to use launcher fine. whether u pick home or launcher, it definitely moves alot faster. the live wallpapers dont slow down or slow things up noticeably anymore. putting it in home or launcher makes this look like the 3/31 build. now my marketplace wrkn again..lol outta nowhwere.

other things noted, in launcher, u have like 4 or 5 panels. in home u only have like 3 panels. of course, Sense, gives u da most panels like 6 or 7. the interface not all flashy like sense, but it does dramitically increase responsiveness and smoothness. i accidentally pressed da search on da marketplace n was like damn, this gonna reboot now n might act funny. well it rebooted but this time it asks me whether i want to use Sense, Home, or Launcher. i chose launcher or home, cant remember, and this thing started right up...no delays like when using sense and everything is loading. now thats cool. u still have to kill all apps though. Now, this Sense version has some versatility to it. i can choose which UI to use, by following easy steps..

in android, go to menu , then settings, then applications. press manage apps. then find the Htc sense program. when u do, click on it. then press clear defaults. then force stop. once its stopped, just press the home button, up top power button for rhodium, and Now u can select whther u want to use Sense, Home, or Launcher. picking any of the latter definitely speeds things up. i came across that while reading...try it out

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] gehzumteufel:
**** man, those days sucked. We were on the edge then. lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] amwbt:
Is there a way to get the hardware keyboard on the tilt2 in android remapped for the number and symbol keys to work properly?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] atticuscc04:
bam

try this....

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5516262&postcount=867

i just typed in tilt2 where it says to and it worked for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
Ah no, he means in the tilt2 keymap, there are still buttons that do not work properly, even when tilt2 is selected. Phhusson has brought up fixing this a few times, but he is a very busy guy. Same with AdamWill, who is the person who got the tilt2 keyboard working as much as it is now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] amwbt:
Ok, not a problem! Just thought I'd ask. I'm happy I can even test out android without buying an android phone. Linux is by far a superior OS to windows anything! Thanks for the info.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] atticuscc04:
oops i caught that after i read it again, my bad :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] noamaniac:
Endless loop at boot

Hello I just downloaded the latest cab non-sense cab. Before installing I removed my old version already installed. I installed, ran the update just to be sure and started it up. I've been using these builds for some time now and haven' t had any issues. After screen calibration the phone gets stuck in some kind of endless loop, this is what's being displayed.

Aside from random amounts of garbage numbers:

[2010-04-26 current time UTC]

request_suspend_state: wakeup

init: untracked pid 1986 exited

and then it continues and the 1986 changes everytime. looks to increase in multiples of 7.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled twice now, and aside from trying out the sense one instead I don't know what to do next.

Not a big deal, i wasn't using it regularly, just for fun and to show off :) Not sure if it's a bug.

Oh, I'm using a Tilt2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] J-Hop2o6:
i love how u can open it up in Windows (i have Vista) via disc drive, and use High Speed Internet to update the files that the Update Utility updates, instead of using 3G..

and does the new system.sqsh for 2.1 SenseUI have working APN that'll add them in automatically? or do i have to still do it manually?

does the updated AOSP 2.1 Vanilla have an updated system.sqsh? i ask because that .sqsh from 4/23 didn't have a on-screen kb, calendar, and other small things.. will this be addressed soon?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
AOSP calendar and software KB work just fine for me. Maybe try deleting your data.img? Or be a pal and test the cab below for me? :)

Try this one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] kaybegod:
I installed the cab and it installed a lot better than the last cab. The only thing for the first time is my 3G stopped working, then again, this is the first time I turned off Hardware Acceleration. I have the Rhodium 400 (Sprint TP2). Another thing that kept happening was it kept asking me to sign in to my google account and after I did, it just kept asking me againg and again and again, you all get the point lol. Will turn on the Hardware Acceleration and post my results.:eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
Thank you for your feedback on the new .cab. If I get another couple positives from people who were having problems with the first one then I will switch the link on the fist post.

Unfortunately hardware accel will have nothing to do with any of those bugs. We have come to find over time that HW3D actually does not work at all right now. I personally disable it as default. A soft reset may end up fixing some of those issues. It may inadvertently seem like enabling the hardware accel fixed it, but I assure you, this is not the case.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] J-Hop2o6:
HW acceleration works now?

and im guessing mixing my old data.img with 2.1 (with and w/o SenseUI) screwed up the file.. so yea, i'll try it out again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] kaybegod:
Funny you would mention that because I enabled it and it seemed like it worked but then again, my phone was rebooted. Everything is working now <minus the vibration> lol. Thanks Reefer and your whole dev team for the great work that have been done so far.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SPIDERTECH:
I'm about to try the new AOSP cab. I tried it the other day and got the pid error during boot. I got it up using the rar pack though. Mine did the same thing you were talking about with it repeatedly asking for a google account. I just hit the home key and it went to the home screen. I haven't been prompted again.

Has had trouble with using google voice on the phone? I initially tried to change the number used for voicemail manually and it wouldn't change. It also will not let you change how calls are forwarded. Each time I would change a setting it would go back to the default. I installed google voice and it tried to change the voicemail number too and that didn't work either.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] kaybegod:
3G....check. Tested out the marketplace and that works as well.

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
lol, no HW3D does not work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] demandarin:
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [04/23] 2.1 BUILDS

hey guys, get the auto memory manager frm the marketplace. I never go under 60mbps now..lol at one time I had almost 100mb left. this goes great with Sense. it moves almost as slick as my tf3d now. u know normally live wallpaper eat up RAM and mke device slow..well this picks up da slack. wit the new trick I learned earlier to cut Sense off, I stay 80-100mb left wit auto memory. try it...it works...

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SPIDERTECH:
The new AOSP cab works great. It even turns off the backlight. For some reason running the new AOSP or Sense from the sd card using Haret didn't turn off the lcd. The button lights stay on for some reason though. Ideas?

No problems with 3G or the market.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rakkk:
Try the Sense 2.1 build. The corpcal is included and it works like a charm.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
The button lights were on when you booted android, so they get stuck that way since android doesn't control them yet. :) The reason the backlight is working is the new auto-backlight controls I added in the startup utility, haret does not include this code, which is why it doesn't work booting directly from haret. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SPIDERTECH:
Ahh gotcha. I was wondering why they weren't coming on the last time I booted into android so it must have been because they were off when I booted. Is this something that will be changed/added later? I like having the keyboard backlight when typing in the dark so if it's possible that would be awesome.

I'm seriously digging android and can't wait for full functionality. I don't think I would go back to windows mobile if that happens. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Slayer942:
Loading

Hey i recently installed 2.1 and i've been waiting for about 1 hour and a half and it still says loading
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
It should only take about 5-10 minutes to boot. It still says "loading"? On what screen? Also what version of 2.1 did you install, and what was the date on the .cab. We need a little more information if we are going to be able to troubleshoot for you bud.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] wattseb:
sense 2.1 error

I just installed the new android with sense but i cant work with it for 2 seconds (literally) with out a error message popping up saying "The process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again." The only option is to force close. also when i boot up i get that msg for abt 5 other processes...any suggestions because i cant do anything on the phone because of the txt box. everything else is working fine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] sexcbeast:
andriod market not working says unable to connect ive changed the APN to the ones from post 2 i believe
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
This is how you use the "search" feature we have here at XDA:

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=36587526
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mrj:
Yeah I dunno what is going on with data on the sense version of 2.1...

I entered the APN settings and it shows the little data symbol at the top of the screen but data does not seem to function web or market place or anything... Im on Vodafone AU
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tekgurl:
For some reason, the .cab for the build w/o Sense did the same to me. I used the .rar instead and it loaded right away. Also, I was disappointed with the new build w/o Sense because it looked like a dated verison of Android. I went back to the 3/31/10 build.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] urkrnboy90:
For some reason, when my screen auto locks...it freezes on the black screen and I can't do anything except a soft reset.

My second problem is the market. I can open it and it loads, but when i press the search (magnifying glass) button my phone freezes and reboots.

why is this happening?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] coolwater22:
i belive this is a know feature which happend to me...are you using the cab or the rar file, and is it w/o sense or with sense..this happend to me as well but only when i used that cab's..someone in this thread told me(check back a couple of posts back) that you can download rar file then install the cab. then without uninstalling the cab delete the andboot folder and cache and replace them with the ones fromt the rar, and that helped me.. although this wasnt my original problem, this method got search button, and got android to load for me :)..let me know if that works..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] elazullizard:
I'm currently using the Sense 2.1 version right now. I entered the correct APN settings for T-mobile USA and still cannot get the 3G to connect correctly. The Android Market will also cause a spontaneous restart every time I click on the search button, for some reason.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] urkrnboy90:
im running the rar with sense though...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] coolwater22:
check the post above :)..see if that works..search and reading doesnt hurt :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
I did update the new no-sense cab and rar today, so that they shouldnt do that anymore. key word there is "shouldnt" LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] coolwater22:
hahah cool,well im really loving this work :). im starting to like android more that windows. windows seems so outdated lol..keep at it guys..btw quick question when using sense is the menu tab,when on landscape is it suppose to be ont he side?? also while in landscape things are over one another and when i try to move things and they go to the trashcan...:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] J-Hop2o6:
no, not HW3D.. HW acceleration.. right now we're using software rendering right? atleast thats what i keep reading around in older posts.. if we had HW accel. and opengles, it would make Android more smoother and quicker on our Rhodium right?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] michaelra:
How do you guys carry over your contacts, messages etc when you dual boot to Android? I searched everywhere but there is no such tool to migrate (PIMbackup is not for Android :( )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mxxcon:
ah, the usual flawed logic.

i bet in Windows you are also running one of those memory optimizers?:(

what's the point of memory? to use it!

what's the point of constantly forcing your memory to be empty?!

on average an ACTIVE app takes up 5-30MB of ram, passive much less than that.

what's the point of constantly kicking out apps from memory? just so that your free memory counter says "60mbps"?(btw wtf is that? mbps is megabit per second. what does a measure of network transfer speed have to do with amount of system memory?)

anyway,

getting to 0MB free memory is bad because then android will start swapping.

however arbitrary trying to keep free memory just for the hell of having free memory is stupid.

your phone has memory so that it can be used!

otherwise take a solder and solder out extra memory chips, shrink-wrap them and put them on a pedestal.

also let's not forget that many apps have useful and sometimes required background services, which your memory manager will blindly kill. android will try to restart that service, but memory manager will kill it again. this process itself will use up more cpu/battery power than just leaving the thing to run.

constantly killing all the tasks, how do you expect to get background notifications?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mxxcon:
setup google mobile sync in WinMo(Google pretty cleverly fakes exchange:)). and then login in android and it'll fetch everything from your Google Contacts.

though be sure to look through your Google Contacts and make sure all the fields are properly populated. i had some rather annoying mix ups.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Slayer942:
Twas android 2.1 with sense, Says loading where the sense home screen should be, twas .cab, not sure on the date but i downloaded it yesterday.

sorry i can't give anymore info.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] eghoti1:
can we add the Market Search bug to the first post? these posts about that are getting extremely repetitive.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] MooGoo:
I wonder about this as well. Currently animations on android run somewhat choppy, but consistently so. As such the OS still feels relativly snappy.

The only time this choppines gets in the way is while scrolling through web pages, especially image heavy ones. With Opera on WinMo, scrolling is perfectly smooth.

Is this choppines because of the lack of hardware 3D acceleration?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] demandarin:
you are right. thnkx for the schooling..lol i found that out after i posted that. No, i dont run memory optimizer in windows...not needed..lol i deleted bloatware so enuff freed up frm that alone. i do see what you are saying though. ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] M_T_M:
I'm in awe!! :eek:

Beatifuly explained...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] phhusson:
Just a little supposition, but really little....

What if I don't actually remember of any problem with tilt2 keymap, especially since that's the device I own ?

Which one ?

Some are working.

Theorically, that's true, if all apps follows android guidelines, the apps would take only memory and nothing else when "in background".

There is a little but.

No app actually does that. Just open taskiller and see which apps are only in memory (grey ones), and which ones are actually running (legitimately or not.)

Concerning the "will swap when 0MB is free", that's wrong, there is just no swap for us :p

(well ramzswap, but I don't consider it as swap.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] demandarin:
The only reason i tried it out because in Android, theres always a ton of apps running when u hit advanced task manager. Apps that i didnt open or arent needed. Even when u use task killer to kill apps, they pop back up. Most of these arent even essential apps needed. So i guess getting the automemory manager was a form of workaround to free up more RAM so device run faster and smoother in Android. It does work but i see what the other guy was saying. I have it set on Aggressive, ima probaly change it to mild or a custom setting. It didnt seem like it was draining my battery more. It actually lasted longer than usual.

Anyways, i like the live wallpaper. On default, running the live wallpapers slows down the tilt 2. When i got the auto mem running, now device isnt slowed down or as choppy. Having it set on aggressive will kill other apps prematurely like ur background notifications. So i guess its a matter of finding the perfect median or balance. I read different places its not good to kill apps all the time since the Android OS operates a lil differently than the rest when it comes memory and programs. it is supposed to free up memory itself. plus i read a tip on how to shutdown the sense UI. doing that alone will free up alot of memory for device to use since its not using the memory intense interface. i dont free up memory juss to free it up..lol im just trying to make device faster and get more out of this Sense Android build.

I did check the log thru one of my tool apps and did show that this mem. program was killing everything off..lol I had it on agressive setting. im going to change to mild or do a custom. I know im not as skilled as alot of the members up here but still learning. I didnt want to come up here online talking about why my android running so slow etc..and how do u fix it? If i can help it, i like trying things out myself. Not to say i like to learn the hardway. Thnks for the insight from both of you all. That in awe pic is hiliarious from the previous post. when i first saw the post from mxxcon i was like oh lord, im getting flamed already, damn..lol but i know thats not the case. I appreciate the insights.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] phhusson:
I haven't be clear at all, the problem is not the memory at all, we have plenty of memory, plus ramzswap, if it was only a matter of memory, a taskiller wouldn't be really useful.

The problem is really that applications doesn't "sleep" when they are supposed to, and eats a bit of cpu and i/o. Even if it's really little, when almost every apps does like that, you totally kill the performances.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Reefermattness:
Honestly, I don't notice it either, so it must be keys that either of us rarely, if ever, use. I was pretty sure I remember Adam saying there was some things he didn't map, but am not certain of what they are.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] demandarin:
ok, I understand now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] The Jack of Clubs:
since weather animations are broken, how do you turn them off?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] stevefxp:
No Downloads

Anyone having issues downloading the cabs? The link never kicks off automagically, nor does it when i invoke it directly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] atticuscc04:
same here nothing happens....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] kaybegod:
May want to check your internet settings and/or firewall settings on your system. Never had a problem downloading any of the cabs or rars
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] stephboyle127:
Sense UI Fault

Don't know if this is just my phone or not, or its something to do with the Gsensor. I have the latest build with sense UI just got the latest updates ( but was also happening in the last Zimage) when flicking between pages the bottom tab stretches out as if its in landscape mode then back again once it moves to the desired page. Also if in landscape mode the indicator above this tab moves as if its in portrait mode but the tab is in landscape.

Also want to say, keep up the good work. Loving this android on my TP2. Can't wait for the final product.

Orange: Touch Pro 2

Rom: 1.90.61.0

Radio: 4.49.25.17
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] El_Capitan2:
The download links are not working.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] kaybegod:
I just tried and I was able to download. I am using Firefox.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] michaelra:
Yeah I always hate auto syncing - which is why I turned everything off..don't really want to mess up my phone's contacts and I normally separate my online and my "real world" contacts anyway
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] bdk184:
is anyone else having issues with their data in the new builds? i get signal but for some reason it wont connect to my data. Im on a Tilt 2 (AT&T) and in the older builds i had no issue with data. and also when i turned on WiFi I couldnt connect so it it like a all data issue? Any help is much appreciated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] stab244:
I read that you have to manually set the APN in these builds. That should work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] raticus76:
That's cool, but I can't even edit the APN's on the 2.1sense build. The option is greyed out.

How can that be fixed?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] raticus76:
OK, I've searched and read over and over. Maybe I'm just tired or something but I swear I saw a fix for 2.1Sense not connecting to 3G.

I have the 3-31cab build and the 2.1SenseRar build running off the same card; different boot folders. Both work great as if they were the only ones there, except the 2.1Sense version will not connect to AT&T's data network (voice and text work fine). I can't even edit the APN because that menu option is greyed out. The mobile network option just above it is checked however, but if I uncheck it and check it again, it says, "turning on" for an eternity.

I tend to overanalyse things and miss the simple solution, so I hope that is what is happening here...

Anyway, I'll take my beating now for having to ask :(

Any ideas??? :confused: