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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grainysand:
Right-o, but just because HTC won't be utilizing newer chips/more RAM this year doesn't mean other manufacturers won't. Aha, here is a link:

"That however doesn’t mean they’re resting on their laurels, as we just caught wind that at least two more versions of Snapdragon are in the works — raising the barto up to 1.5GHz, and should be released on the market sometime in late 2010.

...

But thinking that Qualcomm will introduce the 1.3GHz Snapdragon 8X50A chipset next year, working on the 45nm technology, it somehow takes away all the joy of the 1GHz model. And did we mention anything about a dual-core Snapdragon 8X72 that packs twin 1.5GHz Scorpion cores and does full HD 1080p video, making it suitable for both high-end smartphone and smart-books?"

And here:

"According to James Bruce, wireless segment manager for ARM, "You'll definitely see handsets shipping with a dual-core A9 in 2010." The A9 chip has two cores, like many modern computers, rather than just one. Bruce did not name any handset makers or phones in particular that will use its A9 chip, but said, "It's very aggressive. It's only going to be in a year's time that you're going to get these phones." ARM's A9 chip will offer 10% to 20% better power efficiency compared to its current A8 chip, which runs a single core, because it uses 45 nanometer processes compared to the A8's 65 nanometer processes. In order to use dual-core chips, the proper support for them will need to be built into the phones' operating systems. Symbian has said that future versions of its OS will support multiple cores, but other phone makers have remained mum."

Mind you, that doesn't mean most mobile OS will be able to do squat with dual-core. Even today many PC games (!) still don't utilize multi-threading properly--it's only once in a blue moon that my quadcore gaming rig is used to the full, to my sorrow. There might be a chance that the next iPhone will be using a chip faster than 1 GHz, but given that the 3GS is a 800-something MHz processor that's downclocked to 600, perhaps not.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndyCr15:
Fair enough, I still don't think that really indicates they will be in phone which are released in 2010. If they are on the market in late 2010, are they referring to 'they will be in phones that are on the market' or 'they will be available for phone makers'? If its the latter (which I would think it is) then surely they will still take a little time to actually develop and market the phone once they have the CPU?

Anyway, to be honest, we're arguing over are they maybe 10 months away or 12 months away. Either way, the Nexus One is far better techonolgy than anything you can get now, or in the near future to be honest.

I'd be more than happy if I'm wrong of course. That could work well for me though. I tend to upgrade anywhere between 6 and 12 months, so if a dual CPU mobile chip comes out in that time, then great :)

Anyway, I guess we should try and stay on topic here ;)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HighTech216:
Haha

The nexus generates a decent amount of jealousy among the iPhone crowd but honestly, most people think my nexus IS an iPhone.

I'll even have to admit myself, it is very iPhone-esque. I try not to show it off really, I hate grubby hands on my stuff. Plus, everyone always asks how much it cost and I'm not sick of justifying my purchase. I know I have cellphone problem, but there are worse things to spend your money on!:D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rossiscatch:
This has been my experience too. One of my friends has a 3GS, and his only comment now is that he hopes the 4th gen iphone brings something new to the table. That's his way of saying his 3GS has been topped. :D:cool:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul22000:
Unfortunately, every time I demo the speech to text feature it garbles it pretty badly. Doh.

What's the trick to getting it to work well? What do you test it with?

I did notice one thing... If you say a paragraph worth of stuff, it messes up a lot, but one word or two and it usually gets it perfectly?...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grainysand:
The fantastic thing is that I don't have to justify anything. Over here, like in most parts of the world, carriers don't subsidize; everyone buys phones unlocked, the end. So the Nexus One, which I imported in such a way that it's not subject to import duty/VAT, is much cheaper than the 3GS even including delivery costs. The 3GS costs about $731 here, with taxes and everything.

In fact, in my country the Hero is only slightly cheaper than what I paid for the N1, and many lesser phones on the market are more expensive than it (including but not limited to the N97, N97 mini, Samsung Omnia HD, several BB models and many more when bought from official stores). I love dodging VAT/import duty. Love it. Especially since I'd like to keep the N1 for at least two years; here's hoping its hardware will be up to Android 3.x.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjcforpres:
A quiet background helps a lot... I find when I go to demo it the first go at it will get messed up because we are talking, and it catches that...

I mostly show off the "Call John Doe" or I will show them it typing something in a text short and quick, ie "It writes for me"...

Personally, the speech to text works alright for me, but way better for other people! My manager can write emails with it with about 95% accuracy!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pzumk:
Live Wallpapers, Swype
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grainysand:
Herp derp, double-post.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grainysand:
Speech-to-text works okay for me, but not fantastic. I'll grant, though, that I have a highly non-standard accent and I've been surprised at how the phone recognizes me saying things like live wallpaper, file manager, dolphin browser, and the like (rather than just monosyllabic words). That or I sound more American than I thought.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RonnieFoxxx:
if they drink of the Apple iphone KoolAid i hit them with the strobe function of my N1 torche as i yell "DIE YUPPIE SCUM!!" as they cower in fear. :D

ahh... there's no wrong way to demo a Nexus One
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] footboydog:
If its an iPhone owner just fire up Last.fm, Pandora or Spotify and start playing something. Press home and watch their minds get blown by the music still playing. :D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndyCr15:
You see, this is the stuff I need to know. Having never used an iPhone, I'm never sure what it can and can't do. To me, that's simple stuff... :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redmongoose:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=623654 ;)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grainysand:
Better yet, fire up all three plus the stock music app! The result won't sound pretty, but it'll sure demonstrate multi-tasking like a fiend. While at it, load up the browser too. Three-four different music tracks playing at once while you browse news or check your e-mail: is there an app for that?

Here's one. On the iFail browser, when you click on a link to download, say, an MP3 file or a .zip or whatever... you can't. Yep, something that basic is impossible to do on Apple's oh-so-magical device even after its third iteration.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaotikking:
Live wallpaper, and I show them my available RAM with taskpanel. And if I really want to get them in awe I just open my app drawer, I have over 100 apps and most of them are 3d/2d games and emulators. IPhone fans usually shut up when they see my app drawer open and click a game in curiousity. I did notice the 1st question they ask is hows is multimedia, which I have movies like Jennifer's body and ninja to satisfy the full curiosity.

PS: you could also just tell them your screen has double the resolution, which is not to far off. Lol. They HATE that.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul22000:
This is actually 100% true.

320 x 480 = 153600 pixels

480 x 800 = 384000 pixels

384000 / 153600 = 2.5 :D :D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xManMythLegend:
I tried showing off speech to text twice....both times I was on friggin Edge..

If im not on 3G or wifi I wont even mention it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I remember taking a movie(divx .avi) over to my buddys' house. I went to dump it on his computer real quick

"He was like like..you the movie on your phone?"

Mount to usb, drag and drop, unmount.

then he was all

: O
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pluto:
i'd simply go and say 'Heeey , my phone sends bluetooth files' :p
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] footboydog:
Another good one would be to load up a web page on the iPhone and Nexus One and scroll down quickly. The iPhone will show checkered pattern and then load the rest of the page whilst the Nexus One just rockets down the fully loaded page. :cool:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grainysand:
Are you saying the iPhone can't be used as a giant flash drive? Seriously?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] footboydog:
I think only jail broken ones can.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevwright:
Useful as hell that. Just tried it, and you are right you know, I reckon I was staring at checkered pattern for at least 10 milliseconds.

It was much faster on the N1, must be a much better phone. Or could just be the 1GHZ CPU I suppose

Kev
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rossiscatch:
Wow, good job, I suppose you're right the 1ghz processor probably is why it loads faster. It can't be the phone, oh wait, the processor is part of the phone... weird.

As for the rest...

It has already been stated that JAILBROKEN iphones can multi task. Don't tell apple though.

It is well known that text to speech uses server side rendering (aka, needs a network connection).

Google Navigation works great in the US, sorry mate.

The SD storage for apps is a non issue for the most part because the large files can be installed to the SD card, or you can root and use apps2SD (since you seem to think a jailbroken iphone is fair..), and google has said once they figure out how to encrypt apps on the SD card they will officially support it. All I ever hear apple trying to do is tightening the rains.. (How about you try to use proswitcher on a brand new iphone? Oh that's right, jailbreaking the latest firmware is no longer permanent, sad)

The screen may not work as well as ANY other traditional LCD screen in the sun. However, you forgot to mention the advantages in power saving, resolution, and contrast. I'll take a screen that is better in 95% of situations (non-direct sunlight), than one that is slightly more visible in direct sunlight.

Music Storage. I personally love the fact that I don't need to use iTunes. My ipod gets updated almost never because I hate the restrictions of itunes. Also, what if I have a 16GB 3GS or an 8gb 3G? Too bad I can't just pop in an SD card to get some extra storage... I guess I'd just have to buy a new phone.

audible.com books can be downloaded directly to the phone from the website. Yeah, you probably didn't know that since you're used to the Iphone's restriction on downloads. I know it's rough.

How much ram does that iphone have again?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndyCr15:
Ha Ha, I love these iPhone owners who like to point out stuff we can do too. You can 'unjail break' to restore warrenty. You know we can un-root, right?

I've yet to see a good arguement for an iPhone. Have you even seen your battery for example?

Anyway, this is a Nexus One thread. Please take your insecurities elsewhere and leave us to talk about our devices.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rossiscatch:
Yeah, you're right, it probably will, in 5 or 6 months (big win there buddy). btw, you also forgot to mention that you had to wait longer for the page to load initially in your webpage rendering comparison. By the time your new iphone comes around there will probably be another android phone out there with similar or better specs, so you continue waiting. By the way, the 3GS has 256 mb ram.

I wasn't aware of the audible.com restriction. Yes, you read that right it is an audible.com restriction, so I stand corrected. Although, that's not important to me. Anyway, the bigger issue here is the fact that apple doesn't allow direct downloads from anywhere except itunes or an app.

As far as app storage, okay, you have used 24% of the available memory on the nexus. Why don't you return to that complaint when it is actually filled up. Or don't, I don't care.

By the way, of the many people I have met with iphones not one has been jailbroken. Therefore, while multi-tasking may not be a big deal to you, it is to them. I have impressed countless people with that alone.

Lastly, the biggest problem with the iphone in the US is its marriage to AT&T Therefore, say what you will, as long as the iphone is exclusive to AT&T in the US it can not be redeemed in my eyes. No minor victories in sun reflectiveness, audible.com handicap, or perceived color gamut are going to make it any better for my day to day uses.

Anyway, I am not going to reply any longer because it is off topic, but I hope you enjoy your iPhone and good luck selling your nexus 1.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndyCr15:
Also, you guys know Audible will have the Android app out within the month I hear...

My final word, I'm not convinced Apple will bring something out with better hardware. Look at the iPad...

But I agree, lets keep this thread to how we like to show off our Nexus One's :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turael:
A good way to show off the nexus:

have maps, browser, gmail, messaing, gallery in RAM.

- unlock phone

- "yeah the wallpaper moves. see you have 5 screens here to put widgets and shortcuts and stuff. if you click here (app drawer) you see all your apps, thats like the iphone homescreens. heres the browser (tap), heres maps (tap), heres mail, and this is the gallery. these are from the camera, they sort by day and location."

- go back to home screen, then hold down home, "and this is like an alt-tab. i can instantly go back to any of these apps." (go back to maps. show pinch to zoom)

did something similar to this with a mate of mine who is a huge apple fan. he kind of shifted nervously and said "it is very quick."
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turael:
YOU

need to relax. you're not going to win here - android owners hate itunes, and we see things like proprietary software as bad.

i don't know how you say the camera in the N1 is bad - I reckon it's great. the photos it takes are actually quite awesome. the video works good in daylight.

:rolleyes:
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david1171:
To the iPhone guy, search a bit more about android? Most file managers will allow to download any file type, guess you didn't know that.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndyCr15:
Ha ha, I like that you guys have set routines to impress people. Maybe I need to start doing this :)

Personally, I think the difference is, I'm a fan of great technology. I don't really care who has made it. I think most iPhone fans are Apple fans who want to remain loyal.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turael:
having a routine is the easiest way to remember to show everything impressive. Haha. I feel a bit like a religious zealot when I show off my nexus.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rossiscatch:
QFT I rarely buy the latest and greatest based on brand. I should also set a routine. I usually just do what ever comes to mind at the second, or whatever I had been doing before they asked.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greymarch:
I show them google voice transcribing a voice message, google translate turning english into portugese, or I use Shazam to find the title of a song playing in the background.

- Greymarch

I write about technology, including the Nexus One, at my website:

greymarch.com
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul22000:
Haha yes, this is what I'm going for. I find it hard to show off what would be impressive to other people, because all of this stuff is like normal to me :D :D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grainysand:
kevwright is an excellent example of how to prove the point that most iPhone owners are wastes of oxygen.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pluto:
some stuff to tease your friends with

Mine Sends Bluetooth Files + Mine Has Flaaaa~sh + Mine Has Themes & Wallpapers

WIDGETS WIDGETS WIDGETS SHORTCUTS !!

U Have The iPhone 3G naaah , Not 3Gs , Cause The Speed (s) is miiine

>>
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pluto:
repeted by mistake , please delete
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevwright:
Can you point me to how to Root (and most importantly un-root) the N1 please, I will almost certainly keep mine if that is true.

As for off topic, hang on, I own a Nexus One, and am discussing it. You guys take the piss out of iPhone, possibly without owning one, I make a few comments and you say shut up?

And you say I am insecure?

Kev
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grainysand:
It's more that you come in here with your tongue firmly wrapped around Steve Job's ****. OMG IPHONE WILL DO IT BETTER IN SIX MONTHS. Seriously? Do you swallow too?

And you know, there're plenty of instructions on here telling you how to root. It's not exactly rocket science. Your bleating that a jailbroken iPhone can do all the things we say an iPhone can't only proves the point: out of the box the iFail is an uncustomizable, vapid piece of ****. The N1 can do everything a jailbroken iPhone can and then some, even without root access.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PISSANDVINEGAR:
i lolled irl
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flarbear:
Or just install SwiFTP. Don't even need to mount - just ask him to FTP to your phone and grab it. There are a couple of apps that set your phone up as a web server, but a quick (re)check of the Market would seem to indicate that they all have lots of restrictions on what files you can access (probably a good thing for casual users, but SwiFTP is more configurable that way)...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zetacbr:
I wish we have a live wallpaper with the "power on animation" , that would blow minds by itself :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndyCr15:
You'll find it all over on Modaco. I know it's possible, as some folk have rooted, flashed back to an original and have to root again. It's all about the which bootloader you flash onto it I think (I'm no expert).

This is another strength. If you have maybe just 3 or 4 minutes with someone, you could Nandbackup and then Nandrestore a totally different ROM/setup in a matter of minutes :lol: I've never known it so easy to flash ROM's to a device...

Fair enough, you own both... and if you honestly believe the iPhone is a better device/technology and not that it has better apps, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. My point was more about this thread should be about what we like to do on the N1 that can't be done on the iPhone, not an argument about which is better. If you come in with fact 'actually, this can be done' then fair enough, but it was getting a bit messy and I would like if we can keep it on topic :)

I always find it a little annoying, for me the battle of N1 vs iPhone is not about software. Given the right developer, the fact is the N1 could do whatever the iPhone can and this simply isn't the case the other way, as the N1 has better components IMO.

As more Android devices appear this year, more and more apps will make it to the Android Marketplace. Look how Motorola went from pretty much 0 market share to 4% off the back of the Droid/Milestone.

**EDIT** Okay, it looks like I was half right.

http://android.modaco.com/content/g...302038/nexus-one-back-to-original-google-img/

You can unroot it, but you can't re-lock the bootloader, so you would still have a voided warranty. Myself, I'm still not convinced, if I got a bunch of dead pixels that Google would argue the toss saying as I did something to the software they wont honour a replacement of faulty hardware? That aside, I don't think I've ever had to send a device back. If it goes pear shaped though, it can get left on a tube and I'll claim on insurance ;) lol
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevwright:
I am very relaxed, I have both units, I am not trying to WIN anything, I already won by having the best 2 devices in the market place :-)

The N1 camera is quite good in daylight, and I suspect the 3GS would have been just as fuzzy, maybe I will do a test :-)

Kev
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevwright:
Thanks David, I don't think downloading the Audible file is the issue. It is heavily DRM'ed, so I don't think it will play on the N1.

I would have to wait for the rumoured Android Audible app if I were to keep the N1, I hear it is coming, but no dates seem to be solid.

Kev
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevwright:
You would not happen to have a source for that would you.

Despite what you lot might think, I would love to replace my 3GS with the N1, that is the whole reason for buying it.

I just happen to really like listening to Audible, and the 3GS does make it a bloody doddle.

Kev
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevwright:
You are a real nice guy.

Kev
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevwright:
Well, clearly the N1 can not play audible.com books, nor will it run some of the apps I now rely on daily, so it can not do "everything a jailbroken iPhone can and then some"

But clearly, reality means little to you, so a plea for genuine help....lets see if you are capable of anything other than personal insults.

I know how to root, but I really don't have a clue how to unroot if I need warranty. If you know how to do that, how about sharing?

Kev
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevwright:
First of all Andy, thanks for taking the time to respond, nice to see not everyone here is rude and/or 9 years old.

I will let you into a secret, I was playing a little devils advocate earlier, if interested, a look at my blog at kevwright.com will give you an insight to my real thoughts and beliefs.

I will admit some of my comments here have been a tad trollish, but people bleating on about how cool frigging moving Wallpaper is just winds me up :-) Apologies for trolling anyway.

I will say clearly the tech is better in the N1, apart from the screen tech IMO, I still think the 3GS screen (not res, the N1 kills it here) is a little easier to use, or it could be that I am more used to it I guess.

I sort of agree and disagree with this, while sales and advertising is so much higher for the iPhone, the devs will still develop for iPhone first or even only.

It is amazing what a bit of advertising can do, as you say, figures from Droid/Milestone were impressive, and one can only hope that when N1 is released in UK proper Google will spend a few quid advertising it, I mean, what are Google FFS, and advertising company :-)

Yeah, that is what I read. I have rooted and replaced ROMs on a couple of Hero's, and the T Mobile Pulse, so I do know what I am doing, but am a bit worried about losing warranty on the N1. But I am with you, I doubt they could refuse to repair a device based on an unlocked bootloader.

Have you rooted the N1 then?

Kev
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul22000:
I am absolutely 100% completely baffled as to why Google is not advertising this phone. It's such a downright amazing device, and it's basically being skipped over because no one knows about it. If it was advertised like the Droid, I'd imagine it would be another 4% jump for Android in worldwide market share. This is absolutely ridiculous.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevwright:
Even worse when you think they already have a ready made advert, seen those 4 little films showing the making and creation of it?

Kev