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[Windows Mobile Software Development] manusfreedom:
Fixed for me.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] anthnhlt:
That is what I meant. Noting is happening. I am going to try it with another gesture to see if I have the same results
[Windows Mobile Software Development] a042349:
Yup - works great now - no overlay, thanks much!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Shawn_230:
No more rotate feature in 0.7? It doesn't do anything.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Please test the latest version here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6124010&postcount=349

There is a bug in v0.7 regarding the rotation feature.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chris5932:
How do I even setup Morphgear to work with controllermode?

Seems nice ;)

Morphgear does not seem to get any input

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, please have a look at the following post and set the reg values as explained. Once you've done that, you can export the reg values and import them again, when you install a new rom:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6023819&postcount=297

Also download the latest LMT version here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6124010&postcount=349

Then you can use the "mario feature" (explained in that post) and use the controller in "full fg app lock mode". So Morphgear won't switch between fullscreen and window mode when you (accidently) touch in the middle of the screen.

Hope that works... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheSorcerer:
Good work with the controller, but there is one major annoyance: becuase of the button placement it is close to impossible to actually press two direction buttons simultaniously to move diagonally. I think the arrow buttons should be closer together and be arranged with a free stop in the center instead of how the hoizontal buttons are clumped together right now. Maybe the actual button size has to be reduced also to make it possible to press two of them at once - without using two hands and fingers xD
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, you can "press" two direction buttons simultaniously. Just hit the hidden areas between the buttons and the controller will send both keyevents.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
You're offering a great support to a lot of people who should just RTFM :D

Anyway it's a pity you cannot edit the first post, you are more dedicated to this project than l3v5y who has a lot more in his hands to deal with and obviously cannot update here as much often as you.

For next version, I +1 on my previous request to optionally disable gesture recognition when the touch is initiated on the opened SIP ;) I seem to be getting more and more of that while typing

Also, requesting more one-finger gestures, like for example S, O, greek uppercase pi, they are great to keep using the phone with just one hand... even if they possibly could interfere with some apps (handsfree note taking for example...)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chris5932:
Thanks but the .exe does not work on smaberg's touch xtreme rom :-/

no action on execution

Morphgear now works with the keypad (lmt 0.7)

But its all laggy in landscape :-/

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
What part of LMT is not working? The gestures or only the controller mode? Can you go in more detail please? Otherwise I'm not able to help you... :-(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chris5932:
The LMT version you recommend doesnt do anything on execution.

Controller mode works (LMT 0.7) but Morphgear seems very laggy.

Maybe "laggy" is a bad word for that.. after some testing, it feels like the buttons only work sometimes

Thanks for your kind help!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
hm, when v0.7 works for you, there should be no problem with the latest version. Just install v0.7, then close/kill LMT and exchange only the "LMT.exe" under \program files\LMT with the new one...

"Morphgear seems very laggy" Is morphgear only laggy when you activate LMTs controller or is it always laggy?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chris5932:
Good question ;)

But I wouldnt have called it an issue related with LMT if it was laggy even without it :p

Well, as I said.. maybe "lagg" is the wrong word.. Its more like it just doesnt work in 60% of cases

//edit

I just flashed a new Rom to test things out:

played alot with the settings in morphgear now I get this behaviour (with your reg settings):

Up is right

down is left

right is down

left is up

Anything else seems fine just sometimes 1/15 a key doesnt work

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, just added a small requested feature: When SIP is active, LMT won't process any gesture. Can you please test the new version/feature and give me feedback? Thanks!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6124010&postcount=349

Now I have to think about new single touch gestures and LMTs performance/size :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chris5932:
Bigger buttons in landscape would be nice!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
it does what's supposed to ;) thanks

Even better if gestures are enabled only in the area not covered by the SIP, but I suppose it would be too much job for too little purpose, so nevermind ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
yes, I thought about that, but I decided to make it small and performant. It would have been "too much job for too little purpose". :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] a042349:
As promised...

A small donation for your good work, thanks again for the overlay removal option, great app!

PayPal Confirmation number:	6H382803M7975333E

-Joel
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
whom did you donate to? noname81 is the most active dev of LMT :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] a042349:
I clicked the "Donate" button on the first post of this thread, if that's not the right "guy" then there's some terrible misrepresentation going on here.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
yeah well he's the OP and one of the two devs, it's just that noname81 is by far the most active dev on this project and he has no donate link in his signature, that's why I asked :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] a042349:
Well if they're both working on it, and both posting here in this thread, I'll trust them to split my enormous bounty appropriately based on their respective level of involvement.

:-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cshuwing:
Its HKCU\Software\LMT\TopToBottomLineDouble
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cybermo:
if TopToBottomLineDouble didin't exist (which was my case), just create a new string value, and be happy :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cshuwing:
You are right.

So you can use double question mark instead as i mentioned in the previous post.

Other than TopToBottomLineDouble

Gestures will have the regkey names as follow:

ArrowRightDouble

ArrowLeftDouble

RightToLeftLineDouble

LeftToRightLineDouble
[Windows Mobile Software Development] snoK123:
Thank you very very much!!! Great program!!!

After editing the registry everything works fine!

Which version of TaskFacade are you using? Mine (4.0) has some grafic bugs on my HD2...

Greetz
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietprid3:
hey for some reason im not seeing the LMT map in the registery any1 know what to do ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] l3v5y:
For most of the gestures there are no default programs, so there are no registry keys. If you manually create them, or use the "learn" gesture then the registry keys should be created.

Would people like the ability to have a back swipe/arrow do a back action in things like Opera? Things like that can always be put on exception lists (and hopefully we'll have something like that in the next version).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietprid3:
heya and thanks for the super fast reply ^^ its working fine now but i need help with 1 thing i cant seem to get Taskfacade on TopToBottomLineDouble mayb im using the wrong value data? using \windows\TaskFacade.exe but its not working :P mayb u could help me out and thanks again for the lovely program it rocks !!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] tossero:
Hi ! l3v5y , I just wanna thank you for this amazing work that you are doing ! Its ...WOW WOW WOW :)

Cheers ~
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cybermo:
use this path: "\program Files\TaskFacade\TaskFacade.exe"
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vietprid3:
Cheers m8 that did it for me ^^ this is a damn nice program i highly recommend it to every1 using a hd2 xD
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi,

a lot of bug reports!? :-) Seems that LMT ist not able to set the reg value MultiTouchDemo on some HD2's, so that users have to set this value via regedit every startup. I'll have a look at this problem in the evening.

Next Steps:

- "ability to have a back swipe/arrow do a back action in things like Opera?" -> good idea!

- add BlackList support because closing e.g. manila or S2U2 causes "system" to crash.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Mariad:
HD2, stock 1.66 ROM

LMT installed fine, but the down gesture by default did nothing. I used the '??' gesture to reconnect it with TaskFacade and all was fine.

It's a great prog, thanks to you both :-)

Maria.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] xavierdemon:
Working fine here :)

Reg entries weren't created on intial setup so manual input was required and they're working fine even after SR.

Awesome app, love it :)

ROM is Stock 1.66 if that helps. Oh and forgot how good TaskFacade was, had it on my diamond but never got round to putting it on my HD2 until now :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
"LMT installed fine, but the down gesture by default did nothing. I used the '??' gesture to reconnect it with TaskFacade and all was fine."

It is as wanted. LMT doesn't have initial process values for the gestures. You have to add them via '??' or via regedit.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] traianescu:
thank you, very usefull... works even from igo8, if i want to switch to music player, for example while i'am driving...

A question: which is the registry setings to auto-start LMT when reboot the phone, or i have to add it manually to startup?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] EndEd:
hmmmm

Sorry but I´m really Confused

- On one side I have the cab [DEV][7/2/10] LMT Launcher 022 from the #1 post. (l3v5y MultiTouch 022.CAB)

- On the other side i have the cab from the #4 post (LMT v0.1.CAB)

Which one do i need to install?

The first cab (l3v5y MultiTouch 022.CAB) install diferent REG keys from what i was seen people talking in the rest of the posts. It set with the install the MultiTouchDemo to 1 and it stay in the taskmanager until I manually closed it.

Dont seen to figure out how to get it working. I´ve change the down reg key to my TaskFacade Path with no luck

The second cab (LMT v0.1.CAB), when i started it from the start page, and try to do something else (change the registry) it closes so i cant change the MultiTouchDemo to 1 with LMT open.

Any tip? TIA
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi EndEd,

please use LMT v0.1.CAB. It is the latest version. When you start LMT you won't see any window - LMT is running in the bg. I just recognized that LMT has problems with starting the app twice (MultiTouchDemo is set to "0 again"). I'll fix that.

I just finished implementing blacklist support for "launch" and "close". When the feature is working on my HD2, we can release a new version tomorrow.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TrYde:
Would it be possible to add an option to use double swipes as DPAD actions ? double left for left, etc ?

Otherwise this worked right after reboot, but I was unable to remap double-up (close app). Maybe it is intended ?

Edit: You may freeze your device if you use double up in start menu... I tried it several times.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
"Otherwise this worked right after reboot, but I was unable to remap double-up (close app). Maybe it is intended ?" -> yes
[Windows Mobile Software Development] yngvebn:
Unbelievable!

Been using this app for a day now with no troubles at all.

I think I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is by a mile the most useful application I've ever had on a mobile phone. It really makes the phone behave in a way that feels really natural.

Great work guys! I'll make sure this app gets a special place on the marketplace once I'm done with it :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
aight :p :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JamesRC:
Can one of the gestures be mapped to "Home"? Would be very useful!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
actually it would be pretty much useless IMO, you would be "spending" a gesture to do something that is already easily accessible with a hardware button... anyway, as a reference, I once by mistake associated a gesture to manila with the learn function (pressed double question mark, then did the associated gesture when the homescreen was active, that brought me back on the home everytime I did that, in the registry the app associated was "manila.exe"
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JamesRC:
Thanks for the tip!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aussiebum:
Is there some way of stopping WM from kill LMT? Sometimes when I run several memory-intensive apps, LMT gets chosen to be killed, which is annoying.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Or use LMTs internal command "Home"... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
I never saw, that LMT was killed on my device due to "memory-intensive apps". Is is really WM, who kills LMT? Or another tool? Do you have a repro case for me?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JamesRC:
I thought I saw this mentioned earlier but couldn't see it, is there a way of avoiding the 'lock' gesture when the keypad is deployed? Otherwise the phone can lock whilst swyping!

Cheers,

James
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, in the latest version LMT won't process any gesture when the keypad is opened. So you won't get the 'lock' when swyping... See new version here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6124010&postcount=349
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
you should really "poke" l3v5y into updating the first post with a LMT v 0.75 that is your updated release ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] JamesRC:
Thanks for the post, I missed that. Thank you also for your hard work!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheGoD:
Im sorry if this was aks before, seems like I just cant find anything on this board:

Do u care to make a version for non-multitouch devices, i. e. by mapping the application to a hardware-button?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, "by mapping the application to a hardware-button"? There are other tools out there, e.g. AE Button Plus.

But a (single touch) gesture launcher would be cool for all/other win phones. I think it is possible and not so hard to archieve. So if a developer wants to implement the missing parts, he can PM me, because I don't have another win phone... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eastlegend:
dd

how do you go to your HKLM?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eastlegend:
How do you go to hklm?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Hi, HKLM is one of the root "directories" in the win/winmobile registry (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE). Just install a registry editor on pc side or on your device. When you start the editor, you'll probably see "HKLM", "HKCU", etc.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] futureshock:
Hi,

i was pointed from my app req. to this tool:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6262242

but i have a few problems using LMT....

the gestures didn't work correctly...

closing lmt didn't work... learning new gestures?! no idea how to do this to use for rotating?!

double line up, don't closing opera?!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
Ok, step by step:

- First install the cab and then launch LMT. When you now do the DoubleSwipeUp gesture, you'll see the proper overlay and after that LMT will close the fg process. Does this feature work?

- LMT stores the relation between gestures and actions in the registry: HKCU\Software\LMT\. You can use a registry editor to modify the settings:

Available gesture names:

- SquareDouble

- QuestionmarkDouble

- BottomToTopLineDouble

- TopToBottomLineDouble

- Delete

- RightToLeftLineDouble

- LeftToRightLineDouble

- ArrowLeftDouble

- ArrowRightDouble

- Square

On one side you can assign an external program to the each gesture with the following syntax: [Full path to exe],[arguments]. E.g. "\Windows\tmail.exe,-RunInBKG"

On the other side you can assign internal commands to the gesture:

Available internal commands:

- CloseLMT -> closes LMT

- CloseApp -> closes the fg app

- Learn -> activates learn mode

- Back -> sends back key

- Start -> Start menu

- Lock -> Lock phone

- Phone -> Phone app

- Up -> sends Dpad up

- Down -> sends Dpad down

- Left -> sends Dpad left

- Right -> sends Dpad right

- PrevApp -> switch to previous app (Alt-Tab feature)

- NextApp -> switch to next app (Alt-Tab feature)

- Home -> switch to Homescreen

- Rotate -> rotate screen

- Controller -> activates the multitouch controller/dpad (default for "Square" gesture). Use it for FPSEce, morphgear, etc... The controller converts the touches to key events. You can define the keys to be sent via reg value "ControllerKeys": Down, up, left, right, 1, 2, A, B, C, D, X, Y. The button "R" toggles between portrait and landscape mode; the button "x" deactivates the controller mode. The reg value "ControllerVibrate" defines the vibrate status: 0=off, 1=default, >1=time in ms.

Hope that helps! I think I should add a small howto to the first post... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
definitely, or you'll be spending time hhehhelping newbies instead of developing :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] fantasyrokr:
Nicely done...exactly what i was lookin for.....

checking hw stable is it right nw...

thnks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gnash.s:
Thank you, noname81.

works, as mentioned.. this is an awesome little app. I use it all the time for switching and closing apps.

question: sometimes, the closeApp doesn't seem to kill the active process as well. Like Resco Explorer, even tho' the app is closed, the process seems to keep running in the background. Is there any way to terminate the process too?

suggestion for a new gesture: single & double circle?? I'm not sure if that would interfere with pinch to zoom feature.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
closeApp: Is it a always problem with resco explorer? LMT doesn't kill the fg process. It tries to close the fg app but if the fg app hangs, LMT won't kill it. I saw other implementations (e.g. TascFascade I think) where the fg app is killed when it does not close after x seconds. Perhaps I should add that feature!?

new gestures: When you do the square gesture, you never "draw" hard edges. So it is nearly a circle. If I would add the circle as a new gesture, this would often interfere with the square gesture. Any other suggestion for new single touch gestures? :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gnash.s:
Regd. Explorer, I guess not. But I have seen it few times where it's killed in the foreground, but remains in bg. Others seems to be closing properly including the HTCReader.exe, HTCAlbum(Searcher).exe, which is really awesome.

You're correct about the square gesture, but it is kind of tough to get that gesture correctly and quickly. Perhaps, you could replace the square with the circle? I think drawing a circle is much faster and accurate than a square. the double arrows are the hardest and I use it to close LMT, so very rarely.

I'm not sure how hard it is for you to capture different single touch gestures. maybe, we could add few alphabets like E, M, W (with smother edges). Pardon me if I'm being ridiculous :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] HTCHD2_2010:
Hi nameless81,

Thanks for your hard work but while we on the topic of a new gesture. I know it was discussed in the earlier day where we dont want this tool to be bloated but it would be nice to have just 2 more gesture, a double up arrow and a double down arrow.

Also i kept going back to the "Tap and Hold" in earlier post trying to understand how to use it but I am still couldnot.

Does it allow me to use one handed gesture?

Cheers.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
as long as there's a reg key to enable the forced close, and another key to choose how many seconds to wait. I personally like it the way it is, and never had problems with the new "polite" closeApp

+1 on the square -> circle mod, if that isn't a problem, code-wise, I agreetht bringing up MMTaskmanager with circle would definitely be faster, square is somehow "harder" and slower to draw with the thumb ;)

Also, double arrow used to be hard for me as well, until I discovered the easiest way to trigger it: you have to stress the right or left movment, try to draw a double arrow stretched horizontally, almost like a double line back and forth, even with a small vertical skew, it will work most of the times

You can use tap&hold while using the phone with just one hand: you keep a finger pressed on a fixed point, while with the other you draw "half" the double gesture. For example, if you enable it, you can either draw a double arrow, or keep a finger pressed on a fixed point, and draw a single arrow with the other one, when you release the tap&hole finger the fgesture will be triggered. I can use it if I jhave the other hand busy, takes some practice though, and long fingers :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] HTCHD2_2010:
Thanks for your reply, i hope i can get use to this as sometimes i definitely

need to use the gesture with one hand.

Good day.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gnash.s:
That was a great tip for the double arrows, it gets it most of the time with a slight vertical skew. Thanks.

I personally don't use the tap and hold gesture. I mean, it interferes with the Pinch to Zoom function most of the time, as I hold one finger before I get the zooming going :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
I just updated to a new ROM and had to install LMT, morphgear and FPSEce again. To quickly install and configure LMTs controller with these emulators I made a fpse.ini file and a reg file for morphgear. The howto:

FPSEce:

- install FPSEce on internal memory

- before first start replace the existing fpse.ini with the attached one

- now start FPSEce

- load a rom, start LMTs controller and have fun!

Morphgear:

- install morphgear and e.g. the generator plugin on internal memory

- start morphgear and close it again

- import the attached reg file

- now restart morphgear again

- load rom, start LMTs controller and have fun!

These aren't the perfect settings since I only patched the key inputs to work properly with LMTs controller but it's a good base for further settings. If anyone has better settings, it would be nice if he could post them here... :-)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
all this precious info should be copied over the first post ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noname81:
You're right... :-) I'm a little bit busy at the moment but I plan a small LMT redesign:

As mentioned, I want to replace the square gestures with circle gestures. As also mentioned the doublesquare gesture doesn't work perfect, so I thought about replacing the arrows with "swipe left and the right" and "swipe right and then left" and the same for vertical movement. These gestures would work as good as the "normal" double swipes. Do you agree?

I also want to add two new single touch gestures. But at the moment I'm not really sure about the shapes!? Any suggestions?

When finished it's time to release LMT v0.8 and then I would also redesign the first post and add some howtos, more screenshots, etc...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] HTCHD2_2010:
How about my earlier suggestion of 2 new gesture one with double arrow upwards and the other is downwards, like a double upside down V.

Cheers.