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[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Would you guy give it a break on the LiveWallpaper! First off, the speed and stability of this build is being worked on before little visual extras (like LiveWallpaper....all of them).

Also, LiveWallpaper was developed for the Nexus One that runs on a snapdragon CPU (almost twice as fast, if not more and has much better 3d acceleration that G1\Mt3G) and running it on a G1\MT3G will never be as smooth as it is on the Nexus, all it will do it eat up CPU cycles and battery life.

Even if the devs manage to get it working 100%, it will never be like the experience on the Nexus, especially considering we are still missing hardware acceleration drivers.

So Please give it a rest......the overall speed, usability, and stability of OpenEclair is far more important than getting LiveWallpapers running (if they ever run well on last-generation Android hardware). Having a nice little visual gimmick to show up your iPhone friends certainly isnt more important than getting a build that is rock solid.

(and no one please mention "but overclocking!!!" cause it still wont make up for the lack of hardware acceleration, and the last generation cpu).

If you MUST have livewallpapers working. please try another Eclair build such as Kings builds or another one, and deal w/ the battery loss and slowdown.

Hate to make such a long and involved post, but its getting ridiculous........

Thanks!
[G1 Android Development] Morrolan:
But this is a "community" ROM. Focus should be on what the community wants, not just speed and stability. Before you respond, I share your opinion that speed and stability are the most important. However, if there are numerous posts about Live Wallpapers, then the devs should fix the Live Wallpapers. Without allowing the majority of the users of the ROM to decide the direction of development goes, the ROM can't be considered community. Maybe collaborative, but not community.

BTW, I have used the optimized Nexus Live Wallpaper on the Hero_Over Eclair ROM and it's running pretty well.
[G1 Android Development] caffesilvia:
I have to say, I'm not too impressed with your line of reasoning. The principal features that differentiate 2.1 from 1.6 are ... drumroll ... aesthetic. In fact, I dare say that 90% of the reason Android users clamor for updates is the hope of improved UI aesthetics. We don't want to be locked into using iPhones, of course, and Android already far surpasses the iPhone OS in its functionality. But it sure would be satisfying to have a similar level of "fit and finish". (That goal is a bit far off, in my opinion. Even the N1 is well outclassed by the iPhone's smoothness and UI consistency. I suspect Android will continue to feel "hacked-together" until we're well into 3.x, but that's just my guess.)

Anyway, where I'm going with this is that it almost misses the point to dismiss "visual gimmick" the way you have. Apart from improved visuals, nobody really *needs* Eclair. (One exception: multiple Gmail syncing. That feature should have been in Android 1.0, and was indeed *promised by Google* to be in Android 1.0. Hmph!)

The existing 1.6 builds are amply functional, fast, and reliable. We mostly want 2.1 because it *looks better*. Killing Live Wallpapers eliminates a not-insubstantial part of 2.1's appeal, and therefore I believe it requires a bit more justification.

Now, about visual gimmicks... Does anyone know why none of the existing 2.1 builds has the new app screen or home screen navigation? Did Google leave those features out of the open-source release?
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
Hah, do your homework before you make statements like this. There are SIGNIFICANT changes under the hood, once the majority of phones out there are running 2.x I doubt current app developers will even continue to support 1.5/1.6, there are just sooo many framework changes that significantly improve the experience for the user and the developer.

This is a community ROM, a ROM developed by the community. Thus being a community of developers, if you want LWPs added, check out the source and fix them yourself, then submit a ticket for us (wes/myself) to take the work you did and incorporate it in the ROM. That is the point of this.

Anyway, I'm tired of hearing about the LWPs. So stupid, they are slow and won't get any faster until we get hardware acceleration. No, overclocking won't help, removing the ramhack wont help either.

And to sum it up with some good news for everyone that feels the need to have laggy LWPs... the next release will include them. Tired of hearing about it.

Also, if you want the new Launcher, I've been working on that as well. Download it here.
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
And thats all that needs to be said.....One of the devs said it all :D
[G1 Android Development] memphisraynz:
Im running 1.1.5 and gave the launcher2 a go.

But as soon as i selected if i get non stop FC's, even after a reboot.

Is there some framework im missing?
[G1 Android Development] CHERNAB0G:
likewise.....black screen. force close, force close, force close, force close....
[G1 Android Development] Morrolan:
You were right. Everybody should just abandon this and move to the more innovative ROMs. Just as one of the devs said.
[G1 Android Development] CHERNAB0G:
thats not such a bad idea, i have a lot of free time coming up and id love to help out, where do i start?
[G1 Android Development] daveerickson:
Make up your own minds...

Maybe everyone should have the right to choose what they want to run. If you want to move to a new ROM then feel free. I like where this one is going and plan to stay here for a while. I was on Cyanogen for a long time, but with his new toy he has slowed development on CM, that and there is less innovative things happening for 1.6. This ROM is in its' infancy, stability is innovative for 2.1 at this point. Once stability is a given then adding on all the eye candy will be innovative.

I am not a huge OSX fan, I prefer Linux, but at least they make stability paramount rather than Windows adding eye candy on top of the old cruft.

If you think you have a game plan of what it takes to to make the best ROM out go ahead and make it. Otherwise you are just whining about this free ROM not living up to your expectations.

Really, I am not out to slam anyone's ideas of what this ROM should be. But if you really want to have your ideas considered then file a bug/feature request so the dev's can see it. They will work on it based on what makes sense for functionality balanced out with what the community wants.

Dave
[G1 Android Development] daveerickson:
Where to begin

Looks like Chris was kind enough to post some info on building your own ROM here: http://ctso.me/

Dave
[G1 Android Development] billquinn1:
Chris,

As always communities are a little like families with kids having tempers and hormones flashing all over the place.

We all appreciate the work you guys are doing.

Your path is correct.

A community driven Rom is important.

Differing opinions are critical to the process.

Betas before releases should not be criticized but problems reported.

I hope everyone involved keeps up the good work and doesn't loose sense of humor. It is supposed to be fun!

Thanks for listening.

Have a nice day.
[G1 Android Development] f1n4rf1n:
- delete /data/data/com.android.launcher (you'll have to readd your widget, etc)

- reboot
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
What do you think will happen to this Rom when Eclair is officially distributed to the 1st gen systems?
[G1 Android Development] necorbin:
Data Connection Issues

I LOVE this rom. I'm running the latest version on a T-Mobile Mytouch 3G. Everything is flawless except for 1 issue. I can't connect over T-Mobile's network. I can connect fine over wi-fi, but when I cut off wi-fi and try to connect using T-Mobile, I get the 3G symbol on the top bar, but can't make any connections anywhere. The phone portion works fine.

Oh, also, are there plans to make the trackball on the Mytouch work like earlier roms (flash & light up,etc...)

Thanks for the help, and for this GREAT rom!
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
haha, you got a good point there. Most of you have no sense of loyalty to a Dev, you'll flash anything that's a rom even if it had a virus in it.:p

But free work shouldnt be treated like this though.
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
Loyalty is like a marriage. You can love someone and not love everything they do.
[G1 Android Development] hernandez5683:
Tried that and still nothing. Just a quick question, do I install this normally, or do I need to push it via adb?
[G1 Android Development] outsider787:
I'm having an issue with getting into the settings. Everytime I try, I get a "android.process.acore has stopped unexpectadly. Please Try again."

I've tried version 1.1.1 and v1.1.5.

Both have the same issue.

I'm coming from CM 4.2.14.1.

Did a full wipe.

I'm running the EBI1 kernel on my Dream (due to upgraded radio image)

Anyone know what I can try to remedy this? Without access to settings the phone is un-usable in my opinion.
[G1 Android Development] eskimoroll:
I've been able to remedy this by going into the terminal emulator and running "su" and then "fix_permissions". After that, I reboot into the recovery and run "fix apk uid mismatches". That usually clears up most issues.
[G1 Android Development] joshswank:
Same for me. Curious to test out Launcher2 and wondering what piece I'm missing to resolve fc's.
[G1 Android Development] neo21:
Great ROM use it as my every day rom for a couple of days now and now issues...yet :-)

I could not manage to move the missing Youtube app to /data/app as suggested a few pages earlier...getting a "cross link" error ?!

EXTRA KUDOS for including multi language support INCLUDING DICTIONARIES for the onscreen android keyboard for non english locales...THUMBS UP !!!
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
only thing i noticed with the latest builds is the lack of wallpapers, both live and standard, which i know is 100% easy to add yourself, i just find it a bit annoying, i like to change up my bvackgrounds right off the rip. Also the Nexus One live wallpaper isnt in here and thats the best one there is!

Stability ans smooth transition between screens is getting better, i would say that we are getiing close to a 100% usable daily ROM
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Live wallpaper's are almost guaranteed to be in the next stable release as they have started including them in the betas
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
i didnt mean anything bad, really a smooth release!! I appreciate all the live wallpapers in there now, just i think the one that everyone uses, the Nexus One Live, is the best one and works real good. Hope to see it in the next release, along with some standard wallpapers. Again its nothing an SD card mount doesnt fix.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I was in no way disagrreeing with you, I was disappointed they took them out. They were my favorite ones :D
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
@joshswank: if you want to try Launcher2 check out a beta rom called "raw bacon".
[G1 Android Development] capthtz:
I flashed 1.1.5 and still have original g1 SPL with no problems. I may be screwing myself over though?
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Nope, it works fine with the stock spl
[G1 Android Development] joshswank:
b-b-b-but i wanna try Launcher2 with OpenEclair. /sadface

haha. i'll give it a look possibly. honestly, i don't really care, just curious and i'm loving this mod so far.
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
@josh: its actually pretty good. Makes you not want to swipe to switch screens. Just push a button.

Flashed .5 lost multitouch system wide, in maps browser dolphin backups new flashes etc. Lost voice search systemwide, backups, newflashes etc. New widgets and folders don't align with existing icons, always higher, most noticable with Nexus LWP due to horizontal lines. Wiping sd totally, repartitioning totally to try to rectify if fix uid missmatches doesn't work.
[G1 Android Development] Phlogiston:
Could you please share your code on github or something similar?

thanks
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
It IS on github
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
Ironically, flashed KingKlicks 2.1 for the first time and it fixed the multitouch error system wide. A review if it is coming in the relevant thread.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I don't know what your multitouch problems are, I was just zooming in the brower, then switched to Maps an.... it worked.
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Chris posted a beta of Launcher2 in his post a lil while back, if u wanna try. Download it here.

Feel free, you are welcome to try other roms......good riddance.
[G1 Android Development] MtJason:
I also am having troubles with this. I installed launcher2, went into root explorer and deleted data/data/com.android.launcher, then rebooted without returning to home. When the phone boots up it gives the option to load home or launcher2, but picking launcher2 sends you to an endless FC loop.

mt3g, OE 1.1.5, swap only
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Launcher2 is VERY BETA, his just posted it to play around with. You can nandroid, and try using it on a fresh install and see if it works
[G1 Android Development] frgmtn:
I'm currently running the latest cyanogen mod but I want to try OpenEclair. I have a Google Ion. Is the danger SPL needed and if it is can someone point me in the direction to get it? Thanks
[G1 Android Development] shiben589:
If you have a magic (mytouch 3g, google ion, rogers magic, etc), you dont need to flash your radio or spl, so you're all set!

Edit: If you have a G1, look down one post before complaining.
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
You don't need a new spl on G1's either, so everyone is safe in that department
[G1 Android Development] nobleach:
I added it a few minutes ago.... it's just an "adb push" away
[G1 Android Development] shiben589:
Actually, if you get the .apk from an earlier build, you can just install it normally
[G1 Android Development] nobleach:
1.1.5 is running smooth "like buttah"... I like that comparison.

Having problems getting Sherpa to launch. I'lll logcat it later and see what the issue is with all the FCs. Visual Voicemail is flaking out too... but I've never been able to count on that one.

Overall, great work guys!!! VERY fluid, very slick and very "buttah"
[G1 Android Development] mdomski:
1.1.5 IS Great!!!

I was trying an earlier ROM, had mixed results but still thought you guys were heading in the right direction.

Loaded 1.1.5 earlier today.....and I am OVERWHELMED with the stability and ease of installation!!!!

Nice work and keep going!!!!
[G1 Android Development] mdomski:
Frankly anyone that comes to custom ROM's looking for everything to be PREFECT, needs to go back to CARRIER provided handcuffs.
[G1 Android Development] linuxluver:
Broken Live Wallpapers

Do we know why all the working live wallpapers have been removed from the ROM since v1.0 and all the broken one are still included? Not one of the live wallpapers included with the ROM actually works (last time I tried them).
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
They removed them for speed, but they will be back next version.
[G1 Android Development] RandumAccess:
Any chance of getting a 3 screen launcher version? lol

I dont use 5 screens and would love to get back to 3

-RA
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
I use 1 screen, haha
[G1 Android Development] darktrainer666:
Red Hardware button bug

Hey, Great ROM, the only issue i've found is one related with the red hardware button. I can't turn off the phone :( , if I long press that button the OS freezes and reboots, instead of the normal menu where you choose what you want to do.

Is there a fix for this?
[G1 Android Development] Sleepytime28:
I ran the this ROM for a minute on my MT3G. It ran OK. I had an issue with bluetooth. It would not pair BT hands free and BT audio at the same time. Probably not a big deal for most people but a killer for me. Overall its a great ROM. Although when I reflashed cm 4.2.14.1 It kicks me into a boot loop. Dont know why this happens. It happened both times I flashed this ROM and went back to CM. Also I like to have apps2sd on my MT3G. I have no idea how to enable it with this ROM. It is disabled for MT3G users.
[G1 Android Development] jet8300:
I'm interested in this too. I did some searching and can't really seem to figure out how to modify it to have 3 by myself.

^ This. All of the negative comments and griping doesn't make a damn bit of sense to me. This stuff is provided FREE - by talented people who could probably be doing other things or not even sharing their work with us. I love the fact that there are so many people on here willing to put so much time and effort into these ROMS and development in general. It blows my mind when I think about how much these developers are putting into this just for some ungrateful jackasses to tear it down and *****. /Rant
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
Lol, man, people here can be very sensitive. You have a different set of choices and they act like you slapped their mom. And I didn't see them react like that when I did slap their mom.

Look, work like this is always appreciated. You can see accolades on any set of pages. And such is the nature of things that some people are going to have complaints too. Now to say people give away their right to complain because the work was free is interesting. People are loading things that could severely impact the use of their phones. Phones that they probably paid for, or at least went through the effort to steal. If you get it right, you get public adoration, and that's your reward. If you get some parts of it wrong, people are gonna excersize their rights and gripe. Gotta take the good with the bad.
[G1 Android Development] jklong03:
Broke my phone!

I know no one really cares, but I broke my G1 today. I was in a freezer, came out and it fell out of my shirt pocket when I bent over! Multiple fractures to the glass! :(

Hope I can find a way to replace it cheaply, still don't have a job!:mad:

Commiserations are welcome!
[G1 Android Development] polyrhythmic:
Thanks to y'all's excellent work and the hard work of many xda devs I am proud to release OpenEclair 1.1.1 STABLE port for Kaiser/Vogue/Polaris. Screenshots and download in this xda thread. It runs super stable as advertised, even on my Kaiser.

Don't pay attention to any haters, I've been through the internals of many ROMs and this one is solid! Furthermore, if you guys need a fix to get dictionary autocomplete for LatinIME, I have it......

Cheers and thanks again!!!
[G1 Android Development] Morrolan:
Would you like a G1? I am getting a MyTouch Fender and I am just awaiting delivery within the next few days. When I get the Fender, I would happily work out a fair cost for the phone. PM me or
[G1 Android Development] deafptl4ever:
No LWP? Dang, wrong rom, must be 2.1. This is fast rom.
[G1 Android Development] deafptl4ever:
Do you have any pictures prove what your saying. Theres been many people scamming lately. Not that your a liar but it would help your cause if you showed pictures. I would be willing to help you out if I saw prove. :)
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Has nothing to do with this build.....please dont solicit for cash in this forum (especially if you arent even developing) or at least start a new thread in the correct forum, so people can ignore it. Thanks! :D

A lot of us dont have work or are currently looking for work. Begging on the street might be more useful (lol)
[G1 Android Development] Morrolan:
Are you saying the stock LWP cause the ROM to slow down?
[G1 Android Development] alcazar75:
1.1.5 magic sfr

Was on 1.1.1. Did a complete wipe - flashed back 1.0.1 and then 1.1.5. Works just fine since 2 days.
[G1 Android Development] daveerickson:
Interesting you had an issue pairing hands free and audio. I paired my S9's with my MT3G using 1.1.5 with no issues. The only clue I have is you said you only ran it for a minute, I have had issues in the past that if I turn Bluetooth on and try to pair immediately I will only get phone or audio, not both, until I go into the Bluetooth Options, long press on the S9 and go to its' options, and uncheck and recheck the missing option. This is what I have seen back when using CM roms too and frankly seems to be better on OE.

I am also going to recommend not using apps2sd with a MT3G, it really isn't necessary since you have more than enough internal rom space.

Dave
[G1 Android Development] Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚:
Don't worry. Your G1 died in service to Sparta, and that's the greatest glory it could achieve in its life.

May its spark join the Matrix.
[G1 Android Development] deafptl4ever:
Your right. My bad. How do you remove these?:)
[G1 Android Development] kristoff123:
Do what I do: call TMobile and see if they can offer you anything. Be a little whiny at first, and then *****y if theyre not budging. It could take more than once call. If you threaten to leave, that might trigger them into hooking you up with a new phone - the g1 is $100 through them now. You could keep your old battery and microsd card as well. This is the first thing I would do.
[G1 Android Development] gab1972:
I like this build. I was one of the more daring ones. I am coming from cyanogenmods latest build (4.2.14.1) and all I did was a nandroid backup and then I flashed without wiping. Wrong I'm sure. But I did it just to see what would happen. Here's my question: is there a difference in anything [performance or otherwise] between no wipe+flash and wipe+flash with this ROM from another ROM? n00bish questions I'm sure, but I like learning new things and momma said there was no such thing as a stupid question.

BTW - this 'Car Home' that everyone is speaking of, is that the app thingy that is included with the Droid? That is the shiznit. If it is, I so need to get this.
[G1 Android Development] gab1972:
When I do this, I get a failed error...something about cross device???
[G1 Android Development] gab1972:
Does anyone know where I can get 'CarHome' for this build? thanks in advance.
[G1 Android Development] gab1972:
Oh yeah, an issue I ran into is that I seemed to have to open each app twice before it would run. The first time it would just kick back to the home screen, then the second time it would run. Just sayin.
[G1 Android Development] daveerickson:
Cross device?? Why you go pissin off your phone for?? :)
[G1 Android Development] gab1972:
I take it this is a bad thing? And I also take it - from what I've read - that even if I got this move to work, I couldn't use Youtube anyway because of some drivers missing?
[G1 Android Development] nobleach:
You can download the 1.0.1 version of OE and get it there... or pull it from one of the many other 2.1 based projects. (I pulled mine from Manup's build)

Just unzip the file, find the CarDock.apk file. Plug in your phone. Fire up a terminal. Type:

adb remount

adb push CarDock.apk /data/app/CarDock.apk

or you could put it in /system/app if you want.... your choice

It really is a nice little tool. I'm a fan of the Motorolla dockrunner.apk as well but that FCs on this build. OE already has a decent clock/alarm/music/thingy so I'm not going to bother troubleshooting the moto version.
[G1 Android Development] daveerickson:
I have never seen that error, but it doesn't sound good. Correct about Youtube, missing video drivers that will hopefully be released in the not too distant future.