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[Nexus One General] HippoMan:
Forgive me for requesting more details about applying this OTA. I have to admit that I'm a little bit confused about the definitions of terms like "bootloaders", "recovery images", etc., and I want to make sure I understand this properly and don't screw up my phone. There is SO much useful information here, that it's hard for me to wade through it all and make sense of which items apply to my own, personal setup.

Feel free to reply via PM if this information is repeated here, somewhere.

OK. With all of those apologies and disclaimers out of the way, here are my questions:

Last month I got a stock Nexus One from Google and rooted it via Amon Ra's method (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=612858). I haven't loaded anything non-standard besides this.

Now, I'm getting the OTA notice, and I want to make sure of the following things:

1. After having applied Amon Ra's root image, do I still have "a stock, rooted ROM"?

2. Do I have to apply the recovery image before applying this OTA?

3. If I accept the OTA, will my Nexus One get bricked or otherwise stop working? I know that it was stated that everything "should" be OK for me, but can anyone who has actually done this confirm that it works with Amon Ra's root image?

4. If the answer to question #3 is "it indeed works with Amon Ra's root image", applying the OTA will result in my phone being un-rooted, correct? I'd just like to double-check.

5. Assuming that I'll then have an un-rooted phone, can I re-root by simply repeating Amon Ra's rooting method? I think that I can indeed do so, but I just want to verify.

6. To re-root, will I have to re-download a new nexus-addon-0.1-signed.zip, or is the version from January 6 still applicable?

In other words, given my particular, Amon-Ra-based rooted configuration, is it safe for me to accept the OTA, and can I then safely and easily re-root if I need to do so, and will I have to load the recovery image before accepting the OTA?

Thanks again for any clarification that any of you can offer.

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[Nexus One General] mobiousdigital:
@ UK OTA updaters who got the update automatically, any of you noticed on the lock-screen the | issue after the carrier name?

Cheers,
[Nexus One General] aagvain:
for those in the US who installed via ota, are ya'll experiencing the dots issue on the home screen when hitting the home key from an app?
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Yup..seems like a global issue.
[Nexus One General] vlizad:
N1 update from google, download it now!!

here is the //android.clients.google.com/updates/passion/signed-passion-ERE27-from-ERD79.a487b405.zip update i found it online. good luck!
[Nexus One General] arifhanid:
Yeah I got the | symbol on the lock screen. I'm on T-mobile UK.

Not a big deal but nice to have it without!

There's another thread on the forum discussing this issue, apparently it's happening to UK T-Mobile and O2 customers and some other networks in Europe.
[Nexus One General] aldo37:
I did OTA and have glitch 1, probably an issue with the patch in general and not whether you did OTA or manual update.
[Nexus One General] darkzeroz4:
I did the update manually and experiencing glitch 1. I am still having issues with the touchscreen going nuts. I get sporadic movements on the keyboard. Touching an app on the home screen brings up the menu. The problem is resolved after a reset but comes back eventually. Is this a software related issue and why hasn't it been fixed in this update. I thought Google was aware of the issue.
[Nexus One General] Abbsta:
I did the update OTA and no glitches.
[Nexus One General] mobiousdigital:
Vodafone UK?
[Nexus One General] darkfire23:
OTA update. T-Mobile USA. No glitches.
[Nexus One General] kpjimmy:
Manually did the update not OTA. All works fine. Did this 3 days ago and all is still good.

-Unrooted

-Unlocked
[Nexus One General] mobiousdigital:
Put an app on another of the screens and then launch it from the non-default screen, hit the home button then look at the dots, if they are not ".." ".." then you have the dot glitch.

I can't see how some would and wouldn't have this issue as its the same update files.
[Nexus One General] kpjimmy:
I just confirmed that. Same dot glitch here. But not a big dealbreaker. Any fixes?
[Nexus One General] brucemeng:
Well I guess the dot glitch is confirmed. Not a big deal but it does loses a bit of the polish from the stock rom. ..
[Nexus One General] mobiousdigital:
Exactly, no word from Google about it either nor the issue with the | pipe, while these are cosmetic issues it makes me wonder what else may be glitched?

And yea the ROM is not as polished as the stock one it shipped with now. Worth hounding Google? probably not?
[Nexus One General] dextroz:
Another FYI, this update seems to be like a windows 'service pack' which you have to reinstall everytime you 'reinstall' windows.

I say this because I did a hard-reset to my phone and I had lost the new labs features in maps. I had to reinstall the update to get them back. Not sure what is going on here - but just a heads up.
[Nexus One General] mobiousdigital:
I factory reset mine the other day but didnt have that issue, the Multi Touch was still present etc?

How did you perform a 'hard reset' dextroz?
[Nexus One General] :
Well, of course. The image that's included on the device for recovery was made before the update.

mobious: Hard reset and factory reset are different things.
[Nexus One General] cudofcow:
After updating, Multitouch does NOT work.

I was expecting the update to be to the entire operating system, not just to certain applications. Meaning, that pressing in multiple places at the same time would get things like live wallpapers to respond to two fingers, and getting Nesoid to allow me to look up and shoot bad guys in metroid. This is still not acceptable and i hope its just a temporary fix.

Pinch Zoom works in the gallery, keyboard is a little better, I noticed that if i use app killer to kill background applications, it gives me like 80mb free memory which is nice. I dont see many other fixes... Did Google release a fix log?
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
You do understand that developers are allowed to include their own multi-touch if so wished, things like multitouch Live Wallpapers I'm sure wasn't on top of Google's list of things to be fixated on.

Multitouch will only effect applications that are meant to work with said feature, if the Nesoid does feature multitouch, then yes, you'd have a problem. Google simply added the feature to the default applications that require, or more so are better with it. Android has had this ability of multitouch for a while now - it was just never added to the default Google apps.

To sum this all up, multitouch is only enabled on apps that this feature has been built into. If you knew this, then sorry for explaining it to you. Someone can recreate the Nexus Live Wallpaper (example) and enable it to respond to two fingers, but I don't exactly see Google caring.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Funny... I always thought they were the same thing. Doing a factory reset through Settings IS the same as doing a reset from the Recovery menu.

How would you say it's different?
[Nexus One General] cliffy15:
Ugh.... after a few days, I have to take back my statement. my 2G/3G switching problems are still there. In fact, it takes longer when dropping the data connection to resume another. Also, I seem to be dropping voice along with the data when the switch occurs.

So far, the radio update basically made my 3G perform better. WHEN I have it...
[Nexus One General] Abbsta:
I take that back. Glitch 1 confirmed here but network displayed OK in lock screen (no pipe).

OTA update on stock ROM.
[Nexus One General] the jeffster:
I am having an issue with no tethering on Mac OS X running Cyanogen 5.0 I had to revert back after the OTA as the 5.0 mod wouldn't boot on top ot it.

Anyonne have a fix?

I also can't get market enabler to work and have a persistent issue were in terminal if I try to run the SU command I get "permission denied"
[Nexus One General] :
Factory reset through the menu defaults the phone to stock settings of the current OS in place, it doesn't overwrite the current iteration of the OS on it.

Hard reset reflashes the entire OS with whatever OS version the phone was shipped with.
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
That isn't accurate either. A hard rest returns the phone to 100% stock for the currently installed ROM. The phone isn't going to partition off enough memory to hang on to the original shipping version of the ROM forever, let alone this isn't the reality anyone experiences. If I hard reset my G1, I don't go back to pre-cupcake... if I hard reset my N1, which I have done since the OTA, I don't/didn't go back to pre-OTA.
[Nexus One General] :
Hmm, interesting. I figured it was setup that way.

I think that was the case on my shadow from htc. Kinda how mobo's have two bios's, one flashable, one not so you always have a failsafe.
[Nexus One General] the jeffster:
I tired running the OTA via the RA recovery image and it woudn't take, I was using this file (signed-passion-ERE27-from-ERD79.a487b405) and I get the error "verification failed" this is on Cyanogen 5.0 ROM

Are we going to have to wait for the update to be cooked into a new ROM?
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
Read the first post of the Cyan thread, he has the new radio and the new google apps pack posted in it. You will never be able to flash a partial update like this on top of a Cyan ROM, and as many found out and was discussed at length in this thread, those rooted had to wait for Modaco, or someone else, to make un update.zip compatiable with a rooted device and custom recovery.
[Nexus One General] the jeffster:
Thanks for the reply, often it's hard for new users to wade through long threads to find info. I appreciate the update.
[Nexus One General] beaubrewer1977:
Trackball Lights!

Hopefully this will enable changing of the track ball lights to other than white, with out all the hassle of the other methods!
[Nexus One General] misterjimmy:
Sweet! now I can't wait till I get the roll out update. This will make things much easier for me.

Now we wait for the developers to work on the emulator apps for the multi-touch feature :D
[Nexus One General] The Jones:
Sorry to be thick here, but will I need to re-root? I just rooted mine but did not flash any new recovery images or any of that stuff.
[Nexus One General] Bicster_:
If you have a custom rom it's unlikely you'll get the OTA update.

If you have a stock, rooted ROM, you'll probably get the OTA update, and if you apply it you should be able to re-root in just a few seconds using the same method you used the first time.
[Nexus One General] Domskibus:
Any information about "more free RAM"?
[Nexus One General] The Jones:
Sounds ideal. Does this process wipe the phone?
[Nexus One General] kostodo:
Or palm wrap?

Multi touch on keyboard?
[Nexus One General] Bicster_:
No, although if you run into trouble you may need to manually wipe.

I presume you have Amon's recovery installed so making a nandroid backup is always a good plan before applying any update.
[Nexus One General] The Jones:
I don't have that installed. Might flash that first actually
[Nexus One General] sknoslo:
The blogpost doesn't say any thing about touchscreen issues due to "palm wrap" or otherwise. Doesn't mean its not fixed but I'm guessing they would have mentioned it.

As far as the keyboard goes, it already has multi touch...
[Nexus One General] scuzzy19:
No it doesnt.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Yes it does... it's just not implemented the same way you'd expect from using the iPhone. Eric Tseng clarified this on his web interview.
[Nexus One General] misterjimmy:
its a shame that google doesn't offer a freebie of relocking our bootloader for us on this update that'll be sweet. but of course just wishful thinking :D
[Nexus One General] Smokuevo:
as soon as someone finds the update cyanogen or whoever you got the mod from will add all this to their ROM.. so dont cry :O)
[Nexus One General] Slimgym20:
I didn't mean it was hard initially. Just didn't want them to try and block it and make it hard now, is what I meant. I plan on rooting, just haven't yet.
[Nexus One General] sknoslo:
I'm sorry but I think your mistaken. You can press two buttons at once. Hence "multi-touch". Before android had multi-touch, like in 1.6, if you pressed two buttons at once it would think you just had a huge finger and click somewhere in the middle. Post 2.0 you don't have this problem.
[Nexus One General] scuzzy19:
do you happen to know the timestamp of when he said that as far as I remember "were looking into it" is what I remember
[Nexus One General] beaubrewer1977:
Do you feel uneasy that your warranty was voided... That is why I have not rotted my phone yet.. But Tmob does offer to insure it.
[Nexus One General] snoopstah:
As mentioned above, the keyboard supports multitouch already -- if you press one key, then press another before releasing the first key, a non-multitouch device would think you were pressing in between the two points (so if you pressed 'q' and 't' you'd probably get 'e' appear).

The N1 doesn't suffer this, if you press 'q' and then press 't', you get q entered, and as soon as you release q, you get t entered.
[Nexus One General] scuzzy19:
Thanks for that awesome explanation! that makes it clearer and now after trying that I see what you're saying
[Nexus One General] misterjimmy:
lol no tears over here evo. I knew what was coming across when i unlocked the bootloader just most people in here that want to relock it so bad I thought i'd make a small joke about it :p
[Nexus One General] misterjimmy:
Naw i'm not feeling uneasy what so ever. I was when i couldn't get the root working but that was fixed and done with. However I've been hearing some people mentioning that they don't want to offer insurance on it(T-mobile). One of my co-workers has the phone and apparently they declined it so I dunno what gives on that part. maybe I might be lucky if they do offer it to me.:)
[Nexus One General] rmrector:
That's not what I would call "supporting" multitouch. In fact, every program that does not actually "support" multitouch has this same exact behavior. That is the effect you get when the OS handles multitouch, but the underlying program doesn't know what to do with it.

Also, if you play around with the keyboard, for instance hold one finger over the "d" button, then touch another finger on the keyboard, and move it near and around the first finger while keeping contact with both fingers, it gets confused and will wobble between pressing "d" and "f" and whatever else.

Support multitouch, the keyboard does not do. With the OS now knowing how to handle multitouch, that gave us a slightly better result when dealing with multiple fingers on the keyboard.
[Nexus One General] bofslime:
Kernel version doesn't support HIGHMEM, so it would looks as though this does not yet fix the ram issue.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
This OTA is great news, I can't wait till I get the roll out update! :)

And still hoping the memory will be updated :mad:
[Nexus One General] beaubrewer1977:
I asked about the insurance, they asked when I got it, I said Monday - It was Tuesday when I called - and I got insurance on the phone (but I paid full price, maybe that makes a difference)
[Nexus One General] :
Uh, I think your confusing multi touch function with the differences betwen capacitive and resistive screens.
[Nexus One General] ggrant3876:
Amon RA posted the update file on his twitter just a minute ago.

signed-passion-ERE27-from-ERD79.a487b405
[Nexus One General] Smokuevo:
more like this ::::

http://android.clients.google.com/updates/passion/signed-passion-ERE27-from-ERD79.a487b405.zip
[Nexus One General] ggrant3876:
Yeah, just wasn't sure if I could post the actual link.
[Nexus One General] DMaverick50:
ive never restarted into recovery on this phone how do i do it? im assuming the update works like the rest of them...thanks
[Nexus One General] TFJ4:
Rename it to update.zip, hold audio down and power...select recovery...hit random buttons to get menu to pop up (that's what I did :D)...select the update.zip one...Good luck my directions are wild :D

Seems like the keyboard is so much better with this update (Multi-Touch)
[Nexus One General] kevinddavis:
Ok, not sure if I can remember all of the questions.

MT = yes. It is shown on engaget.

YES you have to reboot. At least twice.

NO it does not wipe the phone.

YES we got the new Google Maps. Yes to MT. Bunch of new stuff in Labs.

NO to the more free memory. I didn't check before the update, but I've got 113MB free now which was about the same.

NO I do not see anything on the SD Card that could be the update. I don't have ADB running either. It came up and said something like "You have update, want to install it?", I pressed a few buttons and everything just happened. After rebooting and showing a few Robot screens, it was done.
[Nexus One General] Raymond77:
I'm getting missing signature error when trying to flash that zip file.

"E: No signature (208 files)":(
[Nexus One General] dashed:
Lol same thing worked for me. I think power + volume down brought up the recovery menu.
[Nexus One General] EErez:
if i am connected to wifi but not 3g/ edge will i still get the update?

what if i am not connected when i am sent an invite? will it send me it once i connect?
[Nexus One General] frandavid100:
I'm getting that too.
[Nexus One General] stabu:
All i get is a trianlge and a ! with the an android... what am i doing wrong?
[Nexus One General] :
Doing this now. random buttons definately brings up the menu. lol

you owe me a nexus if I break this somehow. =P

edit:

(unclear instructions for non root, stock rom, don't hold me accountable!):

put that zip file in the root of your sd card and rename it to update.zip

Power down your phone.

Hold volume down while pressing the power button to boot the phone back up to the recovery/fastboot list

select "recovery" from list

Wait for the ! with android to come up.

Freak out cause you don't know what to do

to get the menu to pop up are (hold) power + (tap) volume up

select update.zip from sd card in the list that comes up

Let it do it's thing and follow instructions

Freak out again when the adroid with the arrow comes up cause it's not doing anything

Sigh a relief when it reboots.

Pinc to zoom to your hearts content.
[Nexus One General] scuzzy19:
hit random buttons to get menu to pop up
[Nexus One General] dsarch21:
will i get while on Wifi or need to be 3g?

thx!
[Nexus One General] scuzzy19:
wow my phone is really SLOW after the update
[Nexus One General] dashed:
That sucks because mine is blazing fast!
[Nexus One General] EErez:
can u actually notice a difference? also is the keyboard any different (better?)
[Nexus One General] sknoslo:
Just wanna point out that the "random buttons" to get the menu to pop up are (hold) power + (tap) volume up.
[Nexus One General] inlogan:
I just installed the update.zip manually and have had no problems. It seems very fast indeed. I also noticed new Labs features in Google Maps. I don't know if those were in the previous version, but now there are a few new lab items to play with!
[Nexus One General] frandavid100:
When do you have to do that exactly?
[Nexus One General] sknoslo:
After you press recovery and get the android with the exclamation mark.
[Nexus One General] Raymond77:
Those of you who have managed to update, are you running "Stock" N1's?

Mine is rooted, with the R-A Recovery, and Cyanogen's Beta 4, and can't update using the zip file.
[Nexus One General] :
The "System Tutorial" isn't working for me.

I wanted to see if there was mention of the pinch to zoom, but nope. Just stays on the main screen when you hit begin.

Can anyone verify that?
[Nexus One General] scuzzy19:
rebooted twice and its working better now Gallery was taking FOREVER to pull up. All is well now time to play with the new features
[Nexus One General] dextroz:
You are not doing anything wrong - just press a combination of volume down and power buttons to get the next menu options.
[Nexus One General] frandavid100:
Alright I'm a bit lost here, I'm not getting the android guy thing.

From a powered off phone, what steps do you have to follow supposing you downloaded the update.zip to the sd card?
[Nexus One General] 51b8f7d9f56e53:
Got my update in Poland ;]

I think the phone is more stable than before - no launcher FC after the OTA. It seems to load homescreen icons first, and than the live wallpaper which I am using which I don't think I have seen before.

Pinch-to-zoom is great, but doesn't work on all websites in the browser, i.e. if you go to a 'mobile' version of a site, you don't get to use this feature. I never had an iPhone, so I'm not sure if it is a bug. One thing I am certain is that pinch-to-zoom does not reflow the page. You can zoom in using multituch, but if you want the text to be adjusted to the new zoom level you need to click the +/- buttons.
[Nexus One General] frandavid100:
Could that be the reason I can't install it either? sknoslo, are you running an unlocked system with the recovery image, or stock one?
[Nexus One General] scuzzy19:
Keyboard seems to function the same way so not COMPLETE multitouch support, but pretty close to it
[Nexus One General] :
Car home and Clock home apps now have dock settings!

There's also a dock settings sub menu inside of settings.
[Nexus One General] vikramdhani:
Can i get the OTA using Wifi ?
[Nexus One General] Raymond77:
Sorted!

Taken from this thread on here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=627442

Go to http://android.modaco.com/content/g...-boot-image-and-superboot-image/#entry1177760, and you want the Update.zip file.

Flashed without any problems, and I'm now multitouched up!
[Nexus One General] sknoslo:
1. Hold volume down + power.

2. A screen will show up with really tiny writing. "fastboot" should be highlighted. Press volume down once to select "recovery" and press power once to accept.

3. Now you should see the exclamation mark. Hold power while tapping volume up once.

4. You should now have a menu that will allow you to flash update.zip from your sd card.

5. Let the phone do its thing until it gives you the option to "reboot now" it will then flash the updated radio image I believe. Then it will reboot on its own.

Edit: I'm running completely stock, locked bootloader.
[Nexus One General] harsaphes:
I get no signature, verification failed, installation aborted.

build RA-nexus-v1.5.3
[Nexus One General] :
There's a notification sound menu under the messaging app.

I'm not sure if that was there before or not, but if it wasnt then you can set a different sound to text messages/mms now.
[Nexus One General] TFJ4:
Try restoring to stock rom and flashing (Flash it over ERD79)
[Nexus One General] jerrycycle:
This is my set up if this helps anyone. Rooted with stock rom cm add on. I flashed the secure update from Modaco site. I then went back and flash the add on back for the su permissions to work again.
[Nexus One General] adam18488:
Will i lose all my texts, apps etc if i update? (..from unrooted, stock build)

thanks
[Nexus One General] luisbm10:
anyone else getting the mobile version of websites with this new update?
[Nexus One General] TFJ4:
no you will not...
[Nexus One General] kunalpatel87:
Rename the file "update" without the ".zip". It's already .zip file.

Enjoy!
[Nexus One General] dsarch21:
worked great!

used amon's link page 5 i think...?

renamed to update.zip used your instruction......BAM!

running real fast and all multi touchy!

stock non rooted phone......

thanks!
[Nexus One General] Firerat:
somewhere in browser settings you can tell the web you are a desktop, then you won't get mobile pages
[Nexus One General] Firerat:
yes I know, which is why I suggested configuring the browser to report as a desktop so the website would show a normal page :p
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
I don't have the update yet and I have the following items in my Messaging app settings:

...(a bunch of other setting categores, then lastly)...

---- Notification settings -----

Notifications [checkbox]

Select ringtone [submenu arrow]

Vibrate [checkbox]
[Nexus One General] Brajin:
I have not yet received the update. will unlocked users get it?