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[General Topics] Tanmay®:
WP 7 features are leaking all over the net. Let me list them :

[Source]

While this might disappoint most but I for one am really happy to see that Microsoft is finally taking this seriously and has worked on WM7 from ground up!

Finally we will be able to get the User Experience comparable to iPhone/Android! Xbox Live and Zune integration sounds totally awesome!
[General Topics] irdawood:
Well this would be the media edition of the phone.... and all the OEM's will sport the 'professional' version of the phone...makes sense.
[General Topics] Tanmay®:
Still that won't make any Extreme Changes. The basic UI will remain the same. I feel there won't be any major differences User Interface wise between Windows Mobile 7 versions...they've already disallowed 3rd Party UI!
[General Topics] irdawood:
Im afraid your wrong :). HTC have already said they will continue supporting Sense 3D on WinMo7, now they wouldnt have been able to do that if MS is going to lock down the UI.

I think/heard there will be 2 versions of the OS, the zune version which is what you see above (this will run on MS hardware, pretty much like the zune) and all the OEM's such as HTC, Toshiba, SE, etc etc will run the pro version of the OS which will similar to what we are used to...how different the OS will be in terms of GUI will be interesting to see, i sure hope that the zune version doesnt get all the goodies.
[General Topics] koalaii:
"WP7 only supports app installation through service based delivery i.e. marketplace, so no side-loading"

Does that mean we could not anymore install cab files from xda.dev ?
[General Topics] Tanmay®:
How far the new OS is going to be customizable is still to be seen. I think they will keep everything closed just like the iPhone and only allow limited modifications.
[General Topics] tuksedra:
no multi tasking?... ... ...the point is???
[General Topics] gogol:
If the above features are true ... Good bye WinMo7 :(

I will go with Android (Or iPhone 4.0?) ...
[General Topics] galaxys:
^Could not wait and have already went over to the dark side...android is very cool :cool: best thing I've done! ;)
[General Topics] bnm7bnm:
this looks like some fanboys conspiracy:D

all windows mobile power (from the users point of view) that its so customizable and like micro computer

if wm7 gonna be kind of an iphone people will prefer the real iphone its perfect in its own limited way...
[General Topics] moooxooom:
I can only say, if winmo drops multi-tasking, I'll drop winmo.

Gee. if people want a iPhone they'll get one.

Not everyone may be able to afford a 1ghz processor now, but the future's going to catch up before winmo7 comes out anyway.
[General Topics] Shasarak:
Think of the pleasure to be got from watching WinMophiles having to admit to iPhonatics that WinMo is now even worse at multi-tasking than the iPhone is! :D (rotfl)
[General Topics] onesolo:
x2!!!

Without Multi-Tasking, HTC Sense and not be able to install whatever I want in where I want, I will never buy a new winmo pda phone again...

I'll guess I'll have to go to Android or in the worst case to iPhone
[General Topics] Master_H:
Multi-Tasking would be indeed a absolute no-go. I'm sure, that will never NOT happen.

I hope, you're also in the future allowed to install what you want where you want. I hate these Iphone restrictions. Let's hope, this will not gonna happen for WM.
[General Topics] onesolo:
I think companies are going paranoid... don't understand why many restrictions when on the desktop side u can do whatever u want... because of a majority of dumbs, that don't even know how to shutdown a computer, the rest of us have to suffer of these limitations...
[General Topics] fb401:
No multi-tasking means I'm sticking with 6.5.3 (or whatever they call it) or going with Android.

Don't they realize that competing with Apple in Apple's arena will only get them smoked PLUS alienate their fanbase? We go to WinMo because we DON'T want iphone os. What we do want is a rebuilt, faster, better WinMo os that is just as customizable as the current os.

Seriously, if they are planning on putting out a winphone os, they are going to lose. period.
[General Topics] Badwolve1:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What he said
[General Topics] ozan07:
Maybe they will remove the file manager. If they remove the file manager, the device is no more PDA.
[General Topics] Shasarak:
"We" aren't exactly a mass market, though. There were considerably more iPhones sold in the last 12 months than every single model of Windows Mobile phone put together. (WinMo is currently a distant fourth in the smartphone market behind Symbian, RIM and iPhone, with Android closing). The bulk of those who still buy WinMo phones are corporate customers. If abandoning the needs of a tiny minority of users (i.e. us) will net Microsoft a substantially improved marketshare, you can bet they'll do just that.

Having said that, I'm inclined to view this particular rumour with some suspicion; at the very least, with other rumours persistently claiming that there is more than one version of WM7 in the offing, it certainly makes no sense to assume, at this stage, that every available version will be like this.
[General Topics] donnaw:
sigh..........

I really hope some of this is not true. And I will wait until some formal announcement to make up my mind BUT if true, no multitasking, no user UI customization, no apps installed to sd card, all apps through the Marketplace?? Had I wanted to live in a walled garden I would have already bought an Iphone.

I've been using WinMo PDAs and phones for more years than I care to admit. Maybe it is time to simplify my life and get a dumb phone and swear off tech. Guess I can start carrying around all my passwords written down in a code again in my purse (shades of the 80's here except that I have a bunch more and they are all pretty complicated now- I do love my ewallet). grrrrrrr...............
[General Topics] fb401:
I fully recognize that, but look at what's happened with the Zune. They tried/are trying to compete with Apple on Apple's terms and have been continually blown out of the water. What can they possible gain by trying to compete with Apple AGAIN on their terms? They'll lose us while not gaining any market share because of the stigma that comes with the "Microsoft" name.

It just amazes me that they took one giant positive leap forward with Windows 7 but then will be taking a giant negative leap backwards with WM7.
[General Topics] poetryrocksalot:
Windows 7 is not a giant leap, it's just a better version of Windows Vista. Windows Mobile 7 is not a leap backwards, we know little about it.

Microsoft should have given their Zune HD a 3.8 inch screen.
[Touch HD General] mimicuk:
Hi was wondering if anyone can help me set up my phone to send and receive emails!!

Sorry for being a noob but i have only got my phone today and its awsome

Regards Mimic
[Touch HD General] mimicuk:
ok sorted it now :)
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Glad you got it sorted

Thread closed
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] iloveandroid:
Could someone please port the Nexus One keyboard to 1.5

http://www.mediafire.com/?jtn0jmzmjcw
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] SoCalSpecialist:
if this thread gets really going..MAN Oh MAN the Eris wont even need a root.

- im lying... we need the root, just not as bad as some may make it out to be.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] iloveandroid:
Do you know what files need to be change in order for it to work on 1.5???
[Touch CDMA General] wdbanks:
With the availability of different Android themes for the Vogue version of it, I am wondering how difficult it might be to create a program that can switch themes like we can with the Manilla2DConfig? It seems possible in my head so I think we can figure this out together.

Any takers? Any ideas?

Thanks!
[Touch CDMA General] wdbanks:
Reserved...
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
There already is one. I've made this suggestion before. Dev's post what base build you're using, than people can use metamorph to apply any of the supported themes from the android themes forum.
[Touch CDMA General] myn:
I think it's a great idea however there are a few technicalities that may get in the way.

1) Different builds have different frameworks. In the Android Themes forum most of the themes are specific for a particular ROM, usually at least Cyanogenmod. If you were to take a theme from cyanogen and drop it into our builds it wouldn't boot :(.

2) The problem in #1 lead to the evolution of MetaMorphing. This is a dynamic method where specific resource files are injected into the associated existing framework and applications. Unfortunately not alot of the themes are there yet. To have MetaMorphing work well the target ROM should really have no odex files (completely de-odexed). Some of the more modern vogue roms are deodexed but some aren't.
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
Actually that depends what you use as a base for your build. I've used super D, and cyanogens builds in the past as a base, and it works no problem with metamorph.

As well odex'ed builds are still metamorph compatible, I've done it myself :)

Again, I know this works because the build that I was distributing was compatible totally with cyan's base rom and therefore and metamorphs for cyans worked :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ebradhusla:
I installed Energy Leo ROM on my tilt 2 and that thing is absolutely GREAT!!!

I have one problem, i text alot and the ROM i installed was for the TP2 and it has a different keyboard layout so my keys don't match, any one that can help???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xredjokerx:
tilt2.blownfuze.org/rhodium/Tilt2HWKeyboard.cab

please use the search function next time
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thesecondsfade:
Obviously search is the first thing anyone tries.

I have searched for 3 hours for a fix and have found several CABs, none of which have fixed my keyboard layout. This one doesn't work either. The entire top row of my TP2's keyboard is numbers. When I hit the numbers (even after installing any of the above-mentioned CABs), different symbols come up like @_!()'":/.

Anyone have a fix for a new RHOD210 Touch Pro from T-Mobile? I bought it this week and have been looking for days for a fix. Any way of modifying it myself?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Broman400:
http://thewingster.com/Documents/Keyboard and Home Key Fix (T-Mobile TP2).cab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thesecondsfade:
That fixes my Home Key going to the Start Menu, but the keyboard is still not laid out right.

Can someone maybe extract the Keyboard Map DLL from the stock Tmobile ROM so we can just replace it? I'm not sure if the needed file is SbdNopAll.dll or what...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ebradhusla:
Works great in a blink of an eye, thanks alot xredjokerx!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheDeadCPU:
So, what ROM do you use? Vote and discuss!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
Finally...

Nice Thread
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ssj92:
EnergyROM Phoenix 2 ftw. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wingman1487:
Energy ROM, its the best way to go. I used the Leo version for a bit but had to many stability issues with it. Phoenix 2 is great and the 23xx versions make the phone so much more finger friendly!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] amin_86:
same reason here
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Qui-Gon Ginn:
There is not my rom :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NaffyG:
ROM I use not in list

I use the NATF Fuze v5.7S ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mikesim:
can anyone offer their opinion to whether or not the Teal Sense is faster than Phoenix 2?

or should i wait until the Leo is complete? I've been running EnergyROMs since the 1.X days. i've tried a few others, but i really like the looks vs speed compromise of the EnergyROMs. I'm just looking for something a bit faster now, and i'm willing to have some of the aesthetics stripped away.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] zai_hkman:
it seems that u are comparing the tael sense 2.5 version with sense 2.1 for phoenix

if that is the case, phoenix should be much more faster and better in stability
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] steezee:
Tael ROM Sense Edition, I've tried EnergyROM Leo and have had nothing but stability issues, Tael ROM Sense Edition is amazing =)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] MiTMaNeK:
Churning ROM as socks.

Now:EnergyRom Phoenix 2

1 day ago: EnergyRom Leo

3 days ago: Gen.Y TP2

5 days ago: TAEL ROM Sense

8 days ago: My own ROM

:) But now Im realy like Phoenix 2
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] codeconqueror:
Currently I'm using the EnergyROM LEO Sense 2.5 from February 7th. Up until that release I was using TAEL 3.23518 Sense Edition but it had too many display issues that required frequent reboots to fix. Before that, EnergyROM back to the 1.x series.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] homerfan:
???

:confused::confused::confused:

wheres the love for the RRE roms?

I know he's no longer cooking for the raphael but many ppl still use the RRE rom, including me:D.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] panzerxschreck23:
I used RRE roms for like 5 month, but now im hook with Energy roms Leo.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Qui-Gon Ginn:
Do i have to pay to have my roms on the pool ? :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Sab3elbromba:
I use either :

Energy ROM Leo (23xx) builds or TAEL ROM Leo Version
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheDeadCPU:
Nah, but it isn't so easy editing the poll when there is no poll editing option! D:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] palmboy5:
This sort of thread (with poll) will naturally get outdated and a new one can pop up regularly. So, with respect to the future I suggest you date the thread title with maybe 02/2010?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheDeadCPU:
I might, or the mods/admins at XDA could make it possible to edit a poll..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tntnt:
My sig is the answer! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hidden_dragon:
??

I don't understand the purpose of this poll. I would suspect the majority are using Energy's Phoenix ROM just purely by looking at the number of post counts in each ROM thread.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
For me

this is very usefull thread since i am new in using TP, and i can make this thread as my consideration to update my TP :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] HTCDevil:
Gen. Y TP2|X 5.3 ITA
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] needmoney:
There's no good rom at all. Why?

Sense 2.5 after many many many modifications in it, still lags as hell (obvious, raphael has only 528MHz)

Stuff added to rom is useless (like Beejive IM, Voice Recorder, Streaming Media, newest opera 10 which sucks hard (sorry to say, but its true) widgets in EnergyRom etc etc.

I would prefer to have stable and all-working things. Ie. in newest builds, begining from 23**** HTC Volume Control doesn't work, HTC Album crashes, Sense 2.1 likes to hang up after restoring things in PIM Backup or HTC Messaging sometimes doesn't work, and i must tap on field TO and manually add contact. :(

EnergyRoms from series PHOTON and earlier was VERRRYYY GOOOD!

I think Yozgatg is doing really good roms!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] daracoon:
Tael sense is a lot faster and a lot more stable, i have been using EnergyROM sins I bought my first HCT, but with pain in my heart I switched to Teal for speed and comfort. No offense to tael, you roms are great, but NRG has THE best eye-candy for me. I'm waiting for a stable release of NRG sense....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nettech:
I don't agree with your assumption that the majority use energy roms, .. :)

Taels Roms ... are fast and stable ... and he has his supporters as do all the other chefs
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheDeadCPU:
Actually I do agree with him.. As I think Energy ROMs are supported by the highest number of devices.. Or is it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cooljohn253:
CR192 roms should all be listed... there's more than one you know.

i couldn't be happier with version 6.5.0.1.0 RC, but his 6.5.X wasn't stable the last time i used it although these roms are amazing..

so many great features and sophisticated looking, not flashy like energy roms.

And i love how my signature still says energyrom.. i did use it for awhile but i like cracing's roms a lot more.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hidden_dragon:
Thanks. I'm not saying one ROM is better than another. One only has to look at the number of replies on each thread to determine which ROM is downloaded the most. Just look at the results of this poll so far...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheDeadCPU:
Well there Hilaireg updated the poll with some new ROMs :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Qui-Gon Ginn:
Thx for my rom :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheDeadCPU:
No problem! ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheDeadCPU:
Bumpety bump.

Any ROMs I'm missing? :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DJGonzo:
EnergyRom Leo FTW

Phoenix might be stable but my phone is like my toy AND hobby so I need the most eye candy and features (if you can call someof them features) possible :D

Tael Sense looks good but it is lacking from the graphics department and missing a lot of apps and other things EnergyRom comes with. For me, EnergyRoms for me are usually just flash 'n' go. I sync with google thru ActiveSync and download any cab I may be missing and I am off.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Prompter:
Tael sense edition

TAEL ROM SENSE EDITION, fast, stable, reliable, simply the best!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] SergiusGee:
TAEL Rom is the BEST!

TAEL ROM is perfect in everything. That's why I use it!:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ClouDtheStrifE:
Tael rom sense edition!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nelsonw:
I think Both NRGZ and TAEL are both very good. I used both, but stays with NRGZ because has the things the way I like it. So for me is stable, fast and my way! I dont agree with the users who says NRGZ's ROM has problems... They are very gooD! that's why its the most used (in this poll and the views counts)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
since you have tried both,

how about the battery life between them?

thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hinxnz:
Tael rom sense 2.1

With TAEL rom I installed sense 2.1 over 2.5 and with transparent slider an clock an clock background also changed internet tab.

The results were great, very fast, looks great and used less RAM than 2.5
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] alfmetal:
ecorom with dualboot
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] alexanders:
What is the most stable rom with litle bugs????? I loved captain special rom! But not tried others....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mdsharpe:
Da_G's clean ROM

I'm using Da_G's 23016 stock-like ROM.

Haven't found a stock-like clean ROM as stable as this yet!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] howudoinn7:
★ Energy 'Phoenix 2' (23541/21892) ★|Feb 26|★ Sense 2.1

I'm using the most current Energy Phoenix 2 Rom and out of all other Roms Ive tried I like the way this one performs. Its fast, stable and well nice to look at!!! ;) One important factor here is the costumer service, if you go into the Phoenix 2 Thread there's like 15,000 replies and over 2,000,000 views...The people using this Rom are always finding ways to improve it, they have solutions to most of the problems, and the feedback from the chef (NRG) is always there. At the end of the day, Its what Rom works best for you.....
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ronald_delgeano:
Backup ROM

How do i backup my existing rom ?because i want to try another rom, and there are so many apps installed at my existing rom.So if the rom that i try don't fit my need, i want to restore my original rom without installing the apps from the beginning

thanks
[General Topics] Frederik29:
I have read both on here and other IT sources that if the 8 GB Internal storage for WM7 device is true then it gonna excluded a high-end device like the HD2 from a WM7 upgrade.

But what could need such a high-level of internal storage? Massive 3D graphics? HD Video?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] cosmicgate:
Are not safe me whether I wrote this now into the correct range..

The MOD or Admin cannot push it if it is correct gladly into the correct range. Cook at a Blackstone HD ROM

Wants to replace gladly individual components of my ROM or also only take.

It concerns Manila Document Tab from version 2_5_19211619_0 or also the whole version infer.

Gladly I would use also only individual components of Manila of it since nevertheless everything of it is not needed.

My ROM is the version WM 6.5 21882 from Blackstone HD GER

Now I find however here nothing, how this lets itself realize in ervius the Kitchen.

From there also the question to the Cooks of ROMs is somehow feasible this.

Sorry for my English, it is not the best.. :confused:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] cosmicgate:
I close now this procedure, there here no the trouble made myself for me to help here. :confused::(:mad:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbsk8addict:
Is there a way to get the Sense Keyboard in a 2.1 rom (xROM 1.1.1 to be exact)? IME...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guitargler:
Go to Cyan's website, look for his downloads, and download HTC_IME.apk and Clicker.apk

Install with Astro, go into your phone settings, find like text and locale or something like that, and check the Touch Input keyboard.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MaxiJones:
.... NTB ....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MaxiJones:
NTB

... NTB ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tobbbie:
Device Specific threads are available for:

Vox (tobbbie)

Tornado (tobbbie)

Hurricane (tobbbie)

Typhoon/Amadeus (tobbbie)

LG KS20 (tobbbie)

Rhodium/Touch Pro 2 (mccune)

...I will add more here if someone else starts other device specific threads, please PM me for this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tobbbie:
A lot of background information can be found at the "Battery University": http://www.batteryuniversity.com/index.htm

A specially interesting part is the one about charging: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm

I have seen a strange charge curves on my Hurricane device - it goes to 68% and jumps to 100% suddenly. This device has a very bad discharge curve (% accuracy) anyway - so the charge fits to that as well. I am using the T-Mobile Germany SDA 2 standard firmware of the device - and since it is in my "museum" I will not put more effort in getting it tracked down.

At least I can confirm that the discharge for the same battery in the same device is nearly identical (I did this for the worst performing battery). I will upload some new result Excel soon.

To be on the safe side that your battery is properly charged, leave the battery charging for at least 4 hours. This should make sure that "step 2" of the charge (where the charge current goes down until charge cut-off) is sufficiently executed. In how much the "green LED" signal is linked to charge-cut-off is device dependent - it may even be different if you charge via the bootloader (device is completely "off") or with the battery driver controling the job.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Addicted2xda:
This is really an amazing tool. Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tobbbie:
Ooops, this thread was lifted to the front-page news (I checked there to see the new design), so I hope to see some new device threads starting up and some more comparable data on "my" devices.

The echo was quite low (as of now: null) on these threads, so I suspect that people are happy with their batteries and have no need to know (or report) the truth.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mccune:
Will post this in the Rhodium section as well. Great idea!

Don't give up on projects like these. It looks like XDA has a lot of members compared to a few years back, but the group of tech geeks (this is actually meant positive) remain about the same. :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vali_p33:
Thanks. Works on HD with Topix rom.