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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Can you post your screen shots as for people to see. It is strange that Kholks ROM is at the slower speed.

I just talked to Shadrac and he confirmed the lower score is better as it is doing things faster in time. He is going to post another addition of the test app with some changes.

I still don't understand how it can make a difference. Maybe someone can share some thoughts on this. 2 driver files identical in Hex converted into module makes a 23% increase in speed?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] faisalee:
May be you can display the time taken in seconds as an additional info. That will make things much clearer :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] [★]:
I expect someone has posted something similar earlier but what the heck
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] faisalee:
Haha... no one did but its clearly indicates the CPU speed! If you dont trust this text in the Hardware info page then you might as well say the additional ram with the new radios is false as well :o
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] seatone:
And what about this? :D:D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ei05035:
Battery Life Test

So far, it does seem the hack is true. I wonder if we could confront HTC with these results. 23% gain is consistent with the frequency of the CPU scaling from 700 something MHZ to 1024 MHZ.

Now, what i also think it should be done, is a battery eater test. To test how much the battery life of our device is affected by using these 2 different aproaches.

Obviously the CPU scaling solution should provide a longer lasting battery unlike the 1024MHZ constant clock frequency.

So, anyone up for it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] iDance°-->ra1n:
if i drag and drop the msm_clk.dll file of kholk in the folder windows the hack will be installed right?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ei05035:
Lol, i like the fact that the number of the display's colors are expressed in MHZ xD.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] faisalee:
LOL! You got a 5Ghz hack... lets start another discussion, is it real or fake :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
No it has to be cooked in.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
+1 LMAO :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
I'm still not 100 % convinced. I'm a bit more open minded and curios but I want to here from some senior software developers as to how this is possible. I just want someone to explain how 2 drivers that when recmoded are Identical in Hex but when they are moduled one of them produces 23 % increase in speed just by WMReloc address change?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] iDance°-->ra1n:
and how can i do it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BladeKnight:
if there is a 1Ghz hack, would be the battery be affected, it will eat alot of power in the battery...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] anja31:
here is mine with the patch:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ei05035:
Precisely. Another test that should be done is the battery eater test. It should not only prove the existence of the 1ghz hack and it should also show if it is worth using it (since it should drain a bit more battery). Although i estimate that the battery life should be decreased only slightly (around 10-20%). But its just a rough estimate.

Also, i do think that the hack is probably real, but i am also curious about how was it created, since the the dll file didn't show any difference (if i'm not mistaken).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ei05035:
@anja31

How many loops did you run?

Guys, we should probably establish that all tests should do the same number of loops. I suggest the maximum number of loops (less prone to CPU bursts affecting the overall performance gain)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] iDance°-->ra1n:
please help me about how to cook kholk's hack
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
He ran the 10000, you can tell by the time. They actually seem to be pretty close to the same with all the test just less digits.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] seatone:
just replace the original dll with the "hacked" one in your kitchen's OEMDriversHigh folder.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ei05035:
Touché, just noticed that the loops are multiples of 10 among each other xD. Sorry about that.

Well, i guess this test is done, we should prolly move onto another. I can only think about a battery eater test right now. But if someone comes up with another way to test a hacked device against a non hacked it would be nice ^^.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ShaDrac:
Updated version of CPU Speed

Updated version to show base value so we know for sure that the base value is the same.

If people can also do these test on other devices, then we can make an educated calculation of the CPU frequency.

Please post those results! :)

Enjoy!

ShaDrac

FYI:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] B4PJS:
Base: 32768 cps

Total: 1157482
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Base: 32768

Total: 1156308 with mod

Base: 32768

Total: 1156319 with stock 2.07 dll

I ran test four to five times each and took the lowest score for each.

So I don't know if there are these fluctuations in the test but for me now I see no difference. I did see a couple of times even with Kholks dll that the result jumped up to 1250000.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chalid:
I get the same results as anja31, but without the 1ghz hack. The better results don't seem to be related to the 1ghz hack.

Running a self-cooked 1.66/2.02, 576MB enabled ROM.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] B4PJS:
On a diamond that we have at work I get the following:

19200000 CPS

Total: 1467037696
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Ok I had to confirm that I did not make a mistake so I copied the stock 2.07 dll again and built another ROM and I still get the same numbers.

32768

1156318

So now in my conclusion until another test can prove differently this is still a fake, a Hoax, 1ghz Hack.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ShaDrac:
Conclusion

Besides a litle more information that the second version of CPU Speed gives..,

It runs also a initial 2.000.000 loops (on normal CPU priority) to warm up the CPU so the CPU scales up to maximum performance before the test start.

I've added it because I wanted to rule out the possibility that scaling influenses the test results.

It looks test results are all the same, with and without hack.

Thanks! :)

Based on the diamond info it looks that our (stock) HD2 is really faster then 1Ghz! :D:D:D

Love to see more results from non HD2 devices, so we can make better calculations.

Enjoy!

ShaDrac
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Thanks for the app Shadrac. I know your enjoying your new HD2 :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ei05035:
Well, suppose we can call it a day. In the end it seems the 1Ghz hack doesnt produce any visible results (or any measurable by these tests) and should be considered as ineffective.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Who wants to break the news to Mr Kholk? Maybe he should change the title of his thread now that everyone knows it to be a fake.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] appelflap:
Let's wait till the next one who thought he had seen Elvis :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Yeah, well let's see we have busted 2 myths lately. The 1ghz hack and the so called mystery drivers AMD/ATI z430 which are already included in our systems.

I don't understand why people have to try to mislead people to promote their ROM. If people like it they will use it. There is no need for all the hype.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] KevinNash:
So for me now, 100.000.000 loops test :

My HD2 : 32768 cps, 1157491 counts to complete ( Duttys 1.5 FRE, no "fake" 1 Ghz hack ;) ).

My wife Topaz/Diamond 2 : 19200000 cps, 1467837088 counts to complete ( Duttys Holy Grail R7.1 FRE ).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ei05035:
I'd really like to hear what Kholk thinks about all of this. But, i suppose these are good news, meaning that HTC hasn't messed the device up (regarding the CPU :P). Well, off to OpenGL ES spiking :S
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] B4PJS:
I think I might release a Windows Phone 7 Series ROM tomorrow. Think anyone will actually try it? :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] seatone:
If you want I can send you my 5 GHz hack, to include it in your ROM, but please, keep it in secret! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] D69K:
Kholk says: you shouldn't have measured the CPU Speed .. it will not show the "real" hack results .. just cook it it in any room and use it .. oh .. and search search search :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bmueller77:
Well.. even the measure of 32768 which as you all know is a multiple of 8 sounds strange to me although i am not very familiar with benchmarks. Sure that this number is correct?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Bob why don't you send him a pm? ;)

I'm sure Kholk's intentions where to improve the device speed and not to lie.

We all are trying to improve the device speed and stabilty isn't?

So be a man and tell him yourself dude. :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Thiago Fialho:
All that talking against benchmarking thread... and now bobsbbq are the benchmarking guy... :eek:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ebliss:
benchmarking one ROM against another is pointless.

But benchmarking one ROM without a "hack" against the same ROM with the "hack" is useful. How else can you tell the performance difference? You prefer it by Faith or by Feel?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] faisalee:
I love your signature... ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] monx®:
Its fake or stock rom already have 1ghz max capability enabled or he upload a wrong file :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] faisalee:
You answered your question already :)

"stock rom already have 1ghz max capability enabled" ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ebliss:
heehee, thanks. Feel free to copy it and spread the "news".
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
It was just a comment, I'm sure he has seen this thread and wishes it would go away. Yes we are all trying to improve things but he is misleading people under false pretenses that our device does not perform at 1 ghz. And that he has magically found the cure to promote his ROM. And he posted a bogus hack to his fellow cooks only later to be found it was a fake.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
As said this has nothing to do with previous discussion on benchmarks thread. So please lets keep on topic here.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mnet:
T-Mobile is also lying to users? :rolleyes:

http://www.sticktogether.com/htchd2/

It's good that kholk's claims have been thoroughly disproven, but I really don't see the need for such extreme measures to try to "disprove" the hack, because:

1) it was never proven in the first place that the HD2 doesn't really scale to 1Ghz

2) it was never proven that there is a hack that increases the CPU speed

So... we have no reason to believe kholk's claims, especially considering that he has been proven to be lacking knowledge many times before. See here for example.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] monx®:
just curious if his finding will make it 1.5Ghz :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] compact_bijou:
Live weather radar map

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gps-enabled-weather-radar.html
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Pappagallo:
Will try, it's nice to know when the rain will be coming :D

Off Topic, nice avatar picture...........King Crimson isn't it ???
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] compact_bijou:
21st century schizoid man ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cataioan:
srry for bothering you guys again..i have a very bad earpiece quality even on minimum volume and i think it's because i put the orange spv m5000 rom and changed the radio version too .

ROM version : D.08.20 TML WWE

ROM date: 02/01/08

Radio version: 1.13.00

Protocol version: 42.47.P8

i did thange the orange rom but the radio version remained . the earpiece quality was awesome before, i couldn't belive it (the phone has only 10 hours of incoming and outgoing calls). thanks !
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cataioan:
not really solved but with a little regedit i can hear perfectly again but only at minimum volume.

1) HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Attenuation:

i put the values to 0
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] gamikzone:
ive been using a screen protecter 6for 6 monthsi decided to take it off cuz it was annoying and the screen looked sweaty, ive been using it for a month without any scratches do u think i should get a new 1 i like the feeling of the glass screen when i tap on it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] mputtr:
there is a need. because with the protector, you do not have to worry about keeping the screen scratch free.

Anything with a screen and no protector will eventually get scratched and ugly. Rather have it protected than unprotected. Also if it looks sweaty, it might be that you didn't apply the protector properly or you had something in it during the process...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Teej53214:
I agree... get it... it might look seaty because it was not put on right.. or it is gettign oils off of you skin and you are nto cleanign ti regularly enough.. it happens to everyone...

As far as not needing on yet.... that is always the case.. you don't need one, untill it is too late.. eitehr it slips out of your hands onto bricks or concreat.. it catches a corner somewhere, etc... it can help...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] prestige77:
I lost the stylus on my device almost a year ago, and I have been using pens, paper clips, toothpicks and anything else I can get my hands on as a "stylus". This phone goes everywhere with me, and unfortunately it's been a little abused! Needless to say, there is only a tiny scratch in the lower corner of the screen! It's very durable!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Mister B:
If you get a good screen protector & fit it correctly to a good & clean screen you will be hard pushed to know it is there.

Problem is finding good screen protectors but well worth the effort to use them.

It is so easy to scratch the screen or get stains on it, with a screen protector on mine I can grab the phone & tap the screen even if my fingers are a bit mucky & not worry if the kids want to play a game on it ect.

Well worth having if you keep your devices for a while & want to retain good resale value.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] prestige77:
The ink in the notes apps tends to jump all over the screen, and after testing the angles, different styli and several similar applications I found that it was dirt/oil, whatever found it's way on the screen! I guess an investment in a couple new stylus and a screen protector are in order to avoid the most expensive, loved brick ever!
[HD2 General] Rc's:
^Hi guys, have a very strange issue, nobody talk about that.

I was on ARTEMIS 2.5 ROM FRA, i was using my phone all the days, and in the middle of the afternoon I loose the connection to phone network. That mean i have a 3G icon, can go in internet with no problem, but now i can't phone anyone, the HD2 just say me Impossible operation.

This issue is related with some other weird issues, for example when i push Data connection, they always ask me to autoconfigure it with my operator ( SFR France).

So i tried some things :

-First install Artemis 2.9b, Internet Not OK, Phone Not OK.

-Back to Official 1.66 ROM, with Radio 2.06.51.07, Internet Ok, Phone Not OK.

So what could i understand from that issue. Maybe a RilPHONE Issue ? Hardware Issue? Silly french issue ?

Thanks in advance for your help

BEst Regards

RCS
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Balapawar:
On my mobile I am facing problem where in I am not able to use activesync when I am connecting to PC. I have tried different machines and cables as well. not sure if the ROM which I have installed has done anything...

ROM Version - DONsalariROM WWE

Radio version - 1.13.25.24[/COLOR]
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Rudegar:
if the phone is set to act as usbdrive for the pc you need to disable that to connect to activesync
[Nexus One General] noammm:
hi all

my iphone 2G fell to the toilet and stoped working

should i get nexs 1 or iphone 3gs?

i went over all the posts here

and understood that the nexus has big problems in 3G and WIFI reception

screen sensitivity and other stuff

while the 3Gs - i need to jailbreak it every time again and again

and bluetooth is not open for everything and UI is kind of boring for me after 3 years

need an objective point of view on what to do

is anyone knows if SENSE UI is coming to the nexus soon? it might be the reasin to take it

thanks
[Nexus One General] firedup:
Nexus One all the way.

I can say that objectively having come from 3GS.

Better UI, not treated like a child! Faster browser and OS response and now we have multitouch.

Haven't looked back. Only thing I miss is iphone TV catch-up.
[Nexus One General] littlejob:
in the long run the nexus is a better phone. there is more and more apps coming everyday.

the only thing i miss about my iPhone was all the cool games and apps. now that the nexus one has multi-touch as well. i would stick with the nexus.

anyways, apple should be coming out with a new iPhone in a bout 3-4 months. im thinking about getting one...just because..

-B
[Nexus One General] typ_ex:
google came out w/ an update fixing the 3g/wifi issues.
[Nexus One General] noammm:
10x

what about the music player?

3Gs vs. nexus or 3rd party music player for nexus?
[Nexus One General] grainysand:
The music player's nothing special, but there are plenty of alternatives. A lot of people here, including me, really like Acer's Nemo Player.
[Nexus One General] rydr1:
@OP, why would you ask that question in a nexus forum where you will get a biased opinion?

i had an iphone 2g and 3g after owning a g1and mytouch and I had too come back to android. the phone may not be perfect but everyone has their preference and you need tho ask yourself what you prefer
[Nexus One General] bofslime:
N1 all the way, there's no question here. Hardware is vastly superior and the software will only get better. The next gen iPhone is going to be announced sometime here, it might then be more comparable, but you're still locked in apples garden.

I've not had a problem with either, and the patch 1 fixed most peoples issues as well. Seems to be some others with issues, but with unlocked rooted phones and other randomness going on its difficult to say what could be causing that, but I think the count is rather low, and likely more of a network issue.

Screen can be a little sensitive, just have to keep your fingers away from the edges, I wouldn't say its a problem though. I also have no other issues, battery life is fantastic, phone is speedy

I haven't felt a need to unlock and root my phone just yet. Maybe when FM tuner stuff gets released, or something more interesting comes out. I had tethering on my rooted g1, but I didn't use it all that often so.

Android is getting better all the time and fast. Plus with how customizable it is, I think you'll find you'll never get bored with the experience.

Since the nexus is a "GOOGLE" phone and only manufactured by HTC, it will likely not get an official Sense UI rom. I don't like Sense personally, but thats just me.
[Nexus One General] iVisionX01:
Sense UI will probably come in the form of a custom ROM actually and that would require root.
[Nexus One General] arifhanid:
The HTC Bravo will have Sense UI, so when that's out then I'm sure it'll get ported over to the Nexus.
[Nexus One General] arifhanid:
According to the TV Catchup forum there's an Android version in the works, plus there's rumors it'll have PVR functionality as well ;)
[Nexus One General] htcmagic:
iPhone is a phone with computing abilities.

Nexus is a computer with a phone app too.
[Nexus One General] grainysand:
Except the dropped calls and inferior call quality on the iPhone, amirite? Whatever else one may say in favor of iPhones, they are pretty terrible phones.
[Nexus One General] bofslime:
Yeah, I meant to touch on that. But I was omw to work.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
this is the best way to describe the two phones...
[Nexus One General] archboy69:
In all seriousness...are you for real?

You are asking in a forum for Android, for Nexus One users...whether people here perfer the iPhone or the Nexus One....really?? And what did you expect that everyone was going to tell you to run out and buy an iPhone?
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
Let it dry and it will work again.

I dropped my iPhone on the bottom of the lake for at least 2-3 minutes and it works fine. (It took almost a month for it to dry 100%)
[Nexus One General] htcmagic:
Comment from Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux kernel

" But I have to admit, the Nexus One is a winner. I wasn't enthusiastic about buying a phone on the internet sight unseen, but the day it was reported that it finally had the pinch-to-zoom thing enabled, I decided to take the plunge. I've wanted to have a GPS unit for my car anyway, and I thought that google navigation might finally make a phone useful.

And it does. What a difference! I no longer feel like I'm dragging a phone with me "just in case" I would need to get in touch with somebody - now I'm having a useful (and admittedly pretty good-looking) gadget instead. The fact that you can use it as a phone too is kind of secondary. "

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Buying a 3GS today would be absolute stupidity, even taking the Nexus One out of the equation.

The iPhone 4Gwhatever will be out in a few months. If you really love your fruit, wait till then.
[Nexus One General] grainysand:
I read that and found it silly. The factor that stopped him from trying it out before was... the lack of pinch-to-zoom? Not the 3G problems or whatever, not things like dust under screen or soft speaker, not anything solid--it was the pinch-to-zoom? That's retarded.
[Nexus One General] jp_macaroni:
maybe thats a sign. :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Dixiesmu:
Hi All

I was mucking about with my prophet the other day and found out that you can enter bootloaader by holding down the power and comms button and do a hard reset by holding down the power/camera/comms buttons all at the same time. So if you misplace your stylus and don't have a pen could come in handy.:D:D:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] soniczz:
Playing around with my Raphael and several unlocker tools,

the hermes unlocker worked for me....!!!

Now i can use it with every provider i want.... cool

I already flashed my phone with TAEL Rom.... (for your info...)

Hope someone have success too..

Go To }W(orld) W(ide) W(eb).sicon-solutions.eu {

download the file, the pass is :rolleyes: sicon-solutions :rolleyes:

Good Luck......
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Soikiro:
but your phone is security unlock?

you can install radio from xperia and topaz...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Farmer Ted:
Something smells a little fishy about this, like first of all, how come you typed in this:

When you could have typed this?

I wouldn't recommend that anyone go flashing unlockers for different devices-that's a quick way to brick your phone. If this just leads to a code, that's fine, but there are threads at xda where you can get a free unlock code.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jasoncook79:
yep

i most definitely agree!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] krzysio290:
Maybe he love acronyms? :D

I would like to pay and have sim unlocked phone, not bricked :cool:

This way isn't cheap, but is the safest.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] superchilpil:
i Agree this sounds like someone is trying to mess with us
[Android General] ~~Tito~~:
Hey all, you guys should join the android live chat between devs and members of the android community.

[url removed]

Come have fun. :cool: