yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chenders:
YOu may want to check once you update to a Vanilla ROM that the BAND Selection still includes the NextG Frequency, ie WCDMA 850Mhz, thats if you still want to use the NextG Network. If it is missing you need to add some entries into the Registry to be able to select the WCDMA 850 Band

To check what BAND options you have, goto Phone -> Menu -> Options -> Band Settings.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flashmore:
Hi pies, Im just curious does the Vodafone HSDPA network cover the 850/2100 MHz frequency that the Telstra HD2 is soley supporting?

I would hold off because if you want to use Vodafone HSDPA then the Telstra version wont have any or as much covereage as the European one, 850 MHz is only used by Telstra as far as I know, whereas 3, Crazy John, Vodafone and Orange all use the 900/2100 MHz frequency.

Regards

Flashmore
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pies1:
hi flashmore,

so you think i should wait for the phone to be open to all networks? (i spoke to htc and they said after then it shall be available to the open networks) i know telstra only has the rights until the end of march! so i guess ill wait till then!

thanks flashmore.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flashmore:
Nothing would change at the end of March Telstra will likely re-contract, however, just do some research and check to make sure my info and other info is correct. I bought HD2 from UK which comes standard with a 2 year warranty, AUS you will most likely only have one year warranty, mind you I have the hassle of sending HD2 OS if there are any issues. That is no big deal to me really.

The phone cannot be open to all networks on HSDPA (sort of) since Telstra are the only comapany in Aus using the 850MHz frequency, Telstra model also supports 2100MHz HSDPA so you should get some coverage but not everywhere.

AUS, Telstra HSDPA (NextG) 850/2100 MHz

US, AT&T HSPDA 850/2100 MHz

Rest of the world (including Australia) HSDPA 900/2100 MHz

So the summary :D If you plan to use Telstra only then buy a Telstra branded model. If you decide to switch providers you will lose some coverage with a Telstra (NextG) model.

Regards

Flashmore
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saied16:
Sorry I need to correct myself FLASHING to a none official ROM will void your warranty.

I used a HTC TOUCH HD, which I bought from TELSTRA. and was Telstra branded. I had to take for warranty claim, since I FLASHED to a non Telstra ROM HTC claimed they will not fix it because I tampered with the phone.

HSPL is like jail breaking iPhone. and you can flash from your SD, and with SSPL you need your PC. Also with HSPL you can revert to Official ROM if something goes wrong during FLASHING which means you could get away with warranty issues. Read post 7.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609477
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
Telstra flashing

Hello I am hoping to flash an official ROM to get rid of the telstra stuff, but still use the phone on the Telstra network- specificaly the 850 3G network

So could I get confirmation from somebody that the 850 UMTS frequency is still available to use after flashing, and if so which ROM did you use. (note that the phone working after flashing doesn't necesarily mean the 850 frequency is working- you may just be using Telstra's inferior 2100 frequency.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockerseven:
non Telstra HTC HD2 no next G

Hi, im older, and not real high tech savvy but my new HTC HD2 from ebay did not work with Telstra MMS,they sent me settings for other model because theres none on auto config site. OK got MMS but appears only E for edge I assume is 2.5G? I have tried all settings on net and fiddled now got no MMS and Telstra sent me to HTC for rom upgrade..there is none..SO.

How can I get NextG or 3.5G whatever on this phone,getting dropouts as in country area. I would be happy for Telstra branded if the thing worked on Next G. I know settings up the creek as when send mms test message I get reply Pocket NEWS :code is invalid.ha ha ha boy im gonna be iNVALID soon.

Any help would be great .need sort of step by step config thanks :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
@rockerseven

If you bought your phone off ebay it probably does not have the 850 frequency- check the back- if there's no telstra logo you don't have the 850 frequency. No 850 frequency means no access to Telstras (better) Next G 3g service. This is a hardware problem, you can NOT fix it with a ROM unfortunately. Can't help with the MMS settings sorry- I find it cheaper and easier to send emails via my phone.

Onto my question-

anyone in Oz flashed their Telstra edition HD2 with a (non Telstra) stock or custom ROM and had it still work on the Next G 850 UMTS frequency, and if so what radio did you use?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockerseven:
sorry prob wrong forum but my HTC HD2 specs are HSPA/WCDMA 900/2100MHz

GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz so shouldnt I be able to get NEXT G ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quietman75:
Testra HD2 flashed to NON telstra ROM

I can confirm that with Xany HD2 rom , I no longer have the UTMS 850 band. Does anyone know what Reg change to get it to reappear ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
No- You need HSPA 850 MHZ (GSM 850 only gives you voice/sms NOT data)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BuuBox:
Remember that GSM and UMTS are two separate mobile network standards, and Telstra do not have a GSM850 network.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
Without getting into specifics of 3G (which I haven't bothered to fully learn) I think you agree that a phone that only has 850GSM (and not 850 UMTS/HSPA) will NOT work on Telstra Next G
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
This is what has worried me. I have asked this question on this and another thread, but no answer yet. Do you think you are on the Next G 850UMTS network even though you can't see it as an option, or have you now been shafted off to Telstra's 2nd string 2100 network?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dood001:
Here is the address for the registry settings ( xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=469573 )

- I have just flashed to Artemis 2.9b and had to go in and change these. I now have "H" next to the signal strength graph. I did not have the "H" until I changed the registry settings.

For Telstra I put in GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+850)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Better? :D The NextG is just HSDPA (7.2Mbps) which various providers in Aus support, anyway Telstra is not the only choice, certainly not mine.

Regards

Flashmore
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dickenz:
Guys,

Firstly the HD2 is exclusive to Telstra for 2 months. Other carries in Aus will have it post March.

Secondly you do not need HSPL to flash a stock ROM.

Thirdly flashing a ROM from these forums or a cooked ROM will not lose your NextG functionality. I have already flashed multiple cooked ROMs to see what the chefs had on offer on my Telstra HD2 and all my 3G/internet things work properly as they should. Just like they did with my previous Telstra phone; the Touch Diamond. But none suit me so I am opening up the kitchen again!

Lastly if you have a Telstra HD2 you will not get 3G reception on the other networks such as Optus or Vodafone or any carrier piggy-backing off their networks. The Next-G network runs at 850mhz and the HD2s have a radio that works on that particular band and it doesn't play so nice with the others; 900/2100mhz. Feel free to prove me wrong here though. As for the radios you can use any radio on the Telstra HD2, some may have better performance, some worse, test and see for yourself. I am currently using 2.06.50.04 so I can get the 576MB of RAM on my device. So far I seem to be having slightly better reception and battery usage than the stock Telstra radio.

Hope that helps.

Cheers.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockerseven:
HTC HD2 NO nextG no Telstra phone

Boy what a dummy I am,Thanks you guys for helping me understand about the hardware difference re Telstra branded and HTC HD2 from other suppliers.

Its only that in the country area im in, NextG does give better coverage,but my ol hp6515 got me through and this one will too.

So it looks like im running EDGE. My last question is..In advanced Network settings I have HSDPA/HSUPA dissabled. Is it of any advantage to me to enable?? keeping in mind my HTC leo is not Telstra.

Thanks again for your advice and info will keep eye on forum with interest and hopefully not bother you again with these off topic questions.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] illuzi0n:
for aussie people like myself who bought their unlocked hd/hd2 from telstra use band WCDMA 850 to get NextG

and if you go overseas u will have to change the band to GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) to get 3G and be able to connect to any other network as Next G is unavailable overseas
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lude219:
I noticed that with the Telstra HD2, if you flash in a cooked WWE ROM, you'll have your data speed almost cut in half. The Telstra HD2 comes with 1.49 ROM with a 2.05.51.11 radio, and with that combination, i get 500kbps on EDGE. Yes, that's on EDGE!!! I also measured it on 3G and HSPA and both with great numbers ( 600-900kbps and 1300-1700kbps, respectively).

I've been flashing about 5-6 cooked ROMs by now (by many different chefs) and every single one has given me horrible data speed. On EDGE, I'll be lucky to get up to 120kbps, 250kbps for 3G and 1200kbps for HSDA. Before you tell me that it's the radio, well, I test those too. I test with 2.05 (Telstra radio), 2.06, and 2.07 with similar results which lead me to believe that the Telstra registry/ROM has different settings for managing data. So now im in this predicament, I can stay with the Telstra ROM and get amazing data speed but have to deal with all the crap that Telstra shove in there, or flash in a clean ROM but suffer ****ty data speed :mad:

[Remember that both ROMs have exact band setting GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)...as this setting is ideal for AT&T users and probably for those in Canada also]

If you don't believe me, do a speed test with stock Telstra ROM(+radio) and then do one with a cooked ROM with your choice of radio, you'll see a dramatic drop in data speed with the cooked ROM.

Any chefs willing to give some insight on this matter? Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
Sorry should have been more secific- by better I don't mean faster data transfer- I mean better coverage (rural and in buildings in the city. YMMV, I found Next G was enough of an improvement over OPTUS to wear the higher charges and frustrating customer service.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micaman:
That's interesting, I was planning on flashing mine once it arrives with the most recent official rom but now I don't know what to think. Can anyone else confirm the decrease in data speeds?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheContact:
No, it won't make a difference to you. HSDPA/HSUPA is 3.5g.

If you live in metro areas, you'll get 3G on Optus/Vodafone/Three, they all use 2100MHz in the cities. Only rural areas have 900MHz.

Of course, I haven't actually got the Telstra HD2(yet...). Though I can happily connect to Vodafone 3G with my Telstra Touch Diamond.

:)

Now this new speed issue is a little worrying...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
A request for help with this please-

I have flashed a telsta HD2 with a non telstra stock rom, and can't access the 850 UMTS

I used your link and Using PHM I navigated to that area in the registry but couldn't find the option for those telstra settings (ie only GSM 850). How did you adjust the settings to make UMTS 850 an option

any advice/ guide on this would be greatly appreciated
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dood001:
no worries - I physically typed in the values over the top of some other frequency combination that I was not interested in. If and when I go to a part of the world that has a different frequency that what i already have I can change it. As it is now, because I am going to live in Sth America I have set the frequencies up to operate in Sth America and here in Australia.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
thanks dood01

I did something similar in the end- altough I added the 5th option that was on that original thread you linked to (that includes the same line you added). Seems to have improved signal strength, and data connections go to H rather than the old E.

Maybe this is why people who imported the Telstra model to AT&T have had speed drops when they flashed the ROM. Interesting to see if reg edit improves their speed.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d_train:
I got my HD2 from the UK last year and have been using it on the Telstra network without an issue - however the weird thing is that with the SIM in my Touch Dual (not NextG one) I get coverage at my parents home (as do they with their Telstra supplied mobiles), but in my HD2 I don't get coverage.

Is this then a radio issue? I am currently using the stock 1.66 ROM and the 2.06.51.07 radio.

Thanks

DT
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Agoattamer:
I have a telstra HD2 in the US. Now I cant remember what all the band selections were on the original telstra rom. I was able to get H and using the iphone speed test I got around 1600kbps. 3G was just about as bad as edge showing around 200kbps.

I flashed to the southeast asia wwe 1.66 rom. My speeds have not improved nor got worse in my opinion. I still get about an average speed of 1600kbps on H and the others are just as bad.

Now when I go to the band selection settings there are no 850umts settings. I usually just leave it on auto to be safe. Any of the other settings will just not work for me. GSM (1900+850) is the only setting that shows H but I cant connect to many websites for some reason.

So there are definitely some registry settings that are fouling things up. I'm not sure just changing the numbers does anything except the listing itself. If I flash back to the Telstra radio only will my Band settings be restored as they should be in the Band frequency settings?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
Probably- Many early Touches had quad band UMTS (before qualcomm objected), so it's likely to have 850UMTS and be getting NExtG- which usualy has better in building coverage.

Your UK phone won't have 850UMTS, so won't Get NextG (this is a hardwae problem), so will have worse reception to the Touch
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
I sort of agree with you with the registry changes possibly not doing anything now after a bit of testing.

However there as one thing that made a huge difference-

Using the SEA WWE stock rom didn't work- I ended up on our shared Telstra/Three network (which is not 850). When I flashed back to the stock WWE (NOT asia WWE) I fixed the problem.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Agoattamer:
Well I live in the states and the 850UMTS band is all that I can use to connect on. I flashed just the radio back to the telstra radio and it didnt change the band settings. They were still the non 850UMTS settings. So I guess I wont ever get those back till an unbranded Telstra rom is released if ever.

So I figured I might as well give the 2.07.51.05 radio a chance and see what that does for me. Not sure if there really is a difference as the 07 just might be a location number and not a real update.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scooby099:
Telstra NextG or Not?

Hi, I recently went into a Telsta store and got myself a HTC HD2. I already had a Next G sim card in my older Nokia 6120c. With my 6120 it actually showed a 3G symbol with signal strength. My HTC HD2 is not showing this, only the normal antena symbol with signal strength. There is an icon that shows 3G is available but I'm not sure if the phone is actually using the 850 UMTS network. I have also noticed on my contract paperwork from Telstra that the network type is listed as 3G2100. Does this mean that when I went into a Telstra shop a few years ago and asked to be put on the "Next G" network and got a "Next G" SIM card that they actually connected me to the 2100 network and not the 850?

Any responses much appriciated! :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quietman75:
Telstra Band registry entries

All , I've just reflashed my Telstra HD2 ( T9193 ) back to the Offical Telstra ROM --- I was on a Xanny Evolution 6.5.3 ROM ---. I exported the registy hive for the band settings. I've attached it here so when you flash a Cooked rom ( to remove the telstra CRAP ) like I will be again. You'll simply have to import the registy key and still maintian your 850 band NextG ( or AT&T 3G ) capability. Cheers.

:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodrye:
Vodafone and Optus use 2100 MHz in the Cities and 900 MHz in rural areas (still a fairly small network).

Telstra uses 850 MHz for Next G, they also have access to 3's 2100 MHz network.

3 Use a 2100 MHz network and roam onto Telstra's 850 MHz network as needed.

The Telstra version does 2100/850 (The same as the iPhone), while the international version does 2100/900. You should do ok with the Telstra version even if you are on any carrier unless you live / travel to a rural area where you could find data coverage sparse. On the other hand with the international version, if you're on 3 / Telstra you are going to have a fairly small coverage footprint.

Still you're best off having the international version (at the moment only in Australia by importers) if you're on Vodafone / Optus, and the Telstra Version if you're on Telstra / 3.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kokkos:
Do you have a link for the HD2 original Telstra ROM? I would like to make sure availble before flashing a custom ROM.

Thanks,

Kokkos
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mbernstein:
Here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=578920
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mbernstein:
Will have my HD2 soon. Will try it out. Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Agoattamer:
Thanks quietman75. I have been looking for this. I flashed mine to a 1.66 rom and was almost ready to flash back just to get these reg values to see if it made a difference. There seems to be a cab file floating around and its settings are messed up. Much appreciated.:)

I noticed something in your dword values. Item value 1 is 0, item value 2 is 1, item value 3 is 2 but then the pattern changes. item value 4 is 4 and 5 is 5. Is this a misprint or is the value of 3 supposed to be skipped?

Forget the question they are indeed correct. Thanks again.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reggrd2000:
many thanks quietman, I'll give it a go after a reflash
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kokkos:
Thanks MBernstein, none of the searches I did would result in that link.

Kokkos
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thumpabar:
Hi scooby099, I don't know if this is still relevant to you but I too have gone from a 6120c on NextG to a HD2. I had the 3G symbol (it may have even gone to H for data, can't be 100% on that) on the 6120c but my HD2 with same NextG SIM works as it should. It's 99% of the time displaying 3G and rarely goes to plain old GSM, apart from when I have very poor signal in the hills etc. I get a H display when using any type of data. I did see it go to E once to update the weather when I wasn't on 3G (which lasted all of 5 seconds and it went to a H again).

I recall having to change my SIM card version to a newer one when I got the 6120c to support the 850/2100Mhz properly, this may be your issue? It was free for me to upgrade the physical SIM card as all it did was go to the latest revision of card and i've never had an issue, same number and everything...just they burnt me a new card which replaced the existing card.

Anyway, just adding some info. Hopefully you've got it working correctly since your post?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjw67:
Worked a treat

Many thanks Quietman 75, dumped that Telstra ROM with all its bloatware and flashed to 1.66. That registry import got me back onto Next G. Many thanks :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Targanon:
Ok on reading this I went in and in the band frequency section

all the options are like

GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)

GSM(1900)+UMTS(850)

GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850+2100)..... ... tick here

GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850)

will this change if I flashed cooked rom
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjw67:
Next G

I used the HSPL and then used the official WWE ROM. There is the thread by quietman 75 on the registry key that you import. I did this and the Next G settings (above) were there
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Agoattamer:
Here is a cab file that will restore the band frequency back to the telstra settings.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjw67:
Thanks!

Thanks Agoattamer, I'll drop this in and run it to make sure. Cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Agoattamer:
You are welcome. Credit goes to quietman 75 as I used his registry settings. Saved me from flashing back just to get them.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tazz_008:
So if we have a Telstra HD2 we cant use in on Optus?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.p.smith:
I have the HD2 operating in NZ on Telecom. How can I remove the Telstra customisation as the bulk of it as connecting to the internet is difficult, seems to be all locked to big bond.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dawesi:
Read the forums... with the HD2 if you don't have the right band, then just look for registry hacks to return them. Telstra HD2 supports ALL networks in Australia.

I use mine on 3 and everything can be tweaked fine without flashing anything... just add another data connection and the rest will come from your carrier. I've also flashed another with WWE rom and T-mobile Rom and they work just as well as Telstra rom. grab the telstra quicklinks cab from this forum and then you can use your own links.

you can also turn off some of the telstra tabs by using the settings and untick them.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ksingal:
Huh?

Hi Guys

Here's the thing...I didnt wanna be a pesky question-monger...so I tried going through all the posts on this topic. But to be honest, after going through everything, i'm sitting here scratching my arse and wondering what language you guys speak.

Ok...I admit it...I'm a total dunce....now moving on...here's the issue

I went and bought myself the HD2 from a Telsra shop with the understanding that since i'm buying a phone outright it should not be very telstra centric.

But, as it would be, i have the same bloody issue....Telstra icons, apps and stuff that is of NO use to me cause i'm with Virgin and do not plan to change that. I have 2 questions..

1) Is there an idiots guide to remove the telstra stuff from this phone...kinda like a simpler step by step process?

2) From what I read, wasnt this phone supposed to have co-pilot pre-installed onto it?

any help whatsoever would be greatly appreciated...

thanks

ks