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[Windows Mobile Software Development] zjxpot:
Keyboard

Hi, I have a couple question.

1) Is there a way to activate the Keyboard so it would pop up when you select a text field?

2) Is there a way to have the Keyboard always remain below the last item of the list? at the moment when entering items by category I have to keep moving the Keyboard to see the Items.

Thanks very useful software
[Windows Mobile Software Development] fesrts:
Thanks for this application. I just have a problem with the v1.81 in my TouchPro (VGA screen). It seems somewhat higher than it should be?

The same problem shows up in any of the skin I used.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Those issues bother me too, the problem lies within the Manila library that I use, it doesn't expose the proper events, those I cant handle these problems...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
That strange, the application is full screen, that means you shouldn't see the top bar at all (the bar with the clock), I'll try to check that up...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gigitek:
The application looks great but...

Suggestion: It would be very helpful if you entered the products one time and then when you "Go Shopping", first you make the list using the already save products.

Let me explain better: First you make a database with all the products you can think of, that you'll ever use(e.g milk, water, ham, bread, sugar etc). Of course new products are added in time...

Then when you go shopping, the list with *all* the products, already entered in the first step, pops up: now you can add only witch one of them you need to buy: let's say bread and water. But you don't need to write again bread, water, you only click on that products, and they get added to the "today's" shopping list.

Thanks !
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Dadi68:
@amirdt : 2 suggestions dude:

1. In the "Edit Shopping List"

Can you filter the items by the selected category?

The list will be more clear and understandable in that way

2. In the "Go Shopping"

If the item is larger than the row, please break it in 2 rows.

Now its very difficult to read a large item, and the checkbox overlaps it

love your application dude!

Dimitris
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kernel610:
one additional suggestion: if you could search within the list. I am using the method previously mentioned by using the uploaded groceries list and selecting my items and moving to the shopping list. If we could search, it would make this even easier. Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Really didnt understand that mate.

The whole idea is that you don't need to re-type everything, this is why you can save your list, and than just get the items from the previously saved ones.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
thanks for the comment, I'll add those to the todo list... :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] cPT.cAPSLOCK:
Nice app, works fine on a (QVGA 120MB RAM 528MHz) Jade.

However, it uses almost 5mb ram, which is quite much. Maybe try decreasing the RAM usage.

A second performance-related note:

When starting the application, it takes +- a second before all buttons are loaded. This happens again each time you go to the main menu.

Maybe try using more efficient images.

I'm not sure how to do that when developping for PPC, but with html standard 'tricks' are to use one image several times (as background) and place the text on top of the image, or use 3 images for each button.

When using 3 images, you'll have one with the left edge (+- 10px wide), one that's 1px wide that loops and fills the center, and a third one with the right edge (same width as the left one).

Hope that helps!

The features are great - performance is my only issue

The only feature I'd like to see is being able to change the order in which categories appear on the list. For example, this allows you to make a category called 'urgent' and place it on top.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kernel610:
actually to avoid complexity, if it were possible to add some sort of alphabetical side tabs like the contacts list has, I think that would work great. May be too much work for what it's worth though
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Thanks for the comments.

Just for clarification, do you have the slow performance issues also with the "light" skins?

Edit, about categories order, in the meanwhile you can do that by prepending a counter to the category names, e.g. "01 Urgent" "02 <another category name>" ...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] airbus3:
USERGUIDE

Is there an userguide for this software? step by step??
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Sorry, didn't have the time to get to that yet...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] airbus3:
Now I have CHANGED THE CATEGORIES with my own main groups in the store and put in groceries in each CATEGORY. But what is the point with this? How do I use this software? It seems that it is a very good software, but I cannot find a practic way to use this - and how do i use the SMS function? What is it for? GO SHOPPING and then all my 944 groceries come up and it is to long to go through! If I choose my own shopping list it wont show up in GO SHOPPING.

Now I have read through all the 32 pages and finally I got an idea of how to use this software.

amirdt - its really great software - thank you for you work! Much appreciated!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gigitek:
i'm a software developer and it's preety confusing for me too; it's not intuitive at all... it's should be a simple app, anyone should be able to use it in 2 minutes, not after reading 32 pages ...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ghale:
Well, I'm a developer too, but I use this nice app without problems!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] redd214:
i been using this for a couple weeks with no problem. not hard to use at all, not sure why you guys are having issues
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
than why don't you write a better one?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Isadora:
I'm not a developer and it took me only a few minutes to work it out :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] deedee:
Somewhere earlier in this thread is the way i am using it, took more time creating the list in a useable fashion in the first place.

Create a Master list containing everything you may want to buy, categorise in which ever way works best. For me that is supermarket aisle.

Go through the master list flagging the required items and then select copy to shopping list. On arrival in store the "Go shopping" button shows you the things you need.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] santiagohen:
Something maybe you can do

It will be cool if you can put prices for every item and a sumatory while we clic every item. This is usefull to know how much cost my list. I'm developer guy if you want I can give you a hand.

regards,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gigitek:
Thank you DeeDee for actually explaining something. It is not clear if "Edit Shopping List" is a master list or the actual today's shopping list.

When a user starts the program for the first time, that is the first pushed button. He enters the items there and then "Go shopping". It was unclear for me how to use the items entered in the saved list. I could only see the items from "Edit shopping list"...

Thanks again.

By the way, I have too the problem with full screen, *sometimes*, the app doesn't start in full screen. I can see the clock, start bar etc... covering the first button...

;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Laurentius26:
This app looks cool thank you for developing.

A small question, can you calculate prices in several valuta?

Grtz Leo :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kernel610:
My personal suggestion is don't add price. What I love about the app right now is how simple and clean it is. Adding price is only going to make it "too much"
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
it can be added as option so only people that need it will see it...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kernel610:
During recently flashing to a new ROM, I noticed that importing/exporting my list was extremely easy, however the categories do not come through with that process. Is there any way to save categories also? The categories that items on my list were saved as came through for those items, but the overall list of categories just goes back to only "General"
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Isadora:
I'd like to be able to collapse/expand the categories as required and if possible, have a green tick show next to the category header if all the items in that category are ticked.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Others asked for it already, it is in the todo list :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
If the program is installed on main memory and not on your SD card, best will be if you backup the ShoppingList.xml file - that will save everything (items, categories, SMS targets, user options).

If the program is installed on the SD card, than the data should be all there after ROM upgrade even if you didnt do backup (though backup is always recommended).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Isadora:
Fab:) Would you mind giving a summary of what else you're planning on implementing?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
It is at the end of post #1... :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Isadora:
:o silly me didn't notice
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kernel610:
Thanks for the quick follow up. Is it possible to make this part of the import/export feature also? Thanks for all your hard work on this? Any estimate on when we'll be seeing the next update :) ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
For the first part, not sure that I'll do it, as cant see that it adds any new functionality, you'll just get another copy of the ShoppingList.xml...

As for the second question I am working on another proggy now, will get back to the ShoppingList one prob by the end of this week.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] 4woerny:
Great

one or two question:

Is it possibel to...

.. save bought items (strikethrough or checked saved)

.. how to use the Button " go shipping" what happend??

.. saved list --> count all items (checked or not)

but

I am very happy with this tool thank you:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Fuze1969A:
Nice app. I like it. I was doing all of my lists in a txt file. No I see this app and will see how this works out.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Limppu29:
Thanks for the great program!

Here is a finnish translation file:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Many thanks, will be added to the next version... :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
When you "Go Shopping", bought (checked) items are saved when you do the Save command, or automatically if you checked that option...

In "Go Shopping" you see the list you created in Edit Shopping List, once you buy an item you check it, you can set up so that checked up items don't show on the list.

If you often buy the same items, you don't want to retype them every time again and again, so you can set up Saved Lists, from which you can copy items to the Shopping List.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pdgpereira:
Hi

I just installed the app and my feeling was that it was the best shopping app I ever had. Very nice indeed. I'm very appreciated :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bluenote73:
I'd love to see some seamless syncing with another phone. I'm not sure where the central storage would be though (google apps? ftp site?).

This sounds like a great app but syncing would be a killer app feature for me anyways... interested to hear if there's agreement?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eternalsinner:
This app tells it can't be installed cause it's not digitally signed. What does it mean to me (how to fix)? thx.

Solved: just downloaded again :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chichoko:
Just tried ur app mate! its really good and has potential! I can translate it in Serbian if you want.. Ill give it a try tomorrow ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] moryoav:
Really excellent app. A killer feature would be to be able to *receive* a list from someone else via SMS and not just to be able to send it to someone else via SMS...

Good job, keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] chichoko:
Translation complete! Translated to serbian! If anyone points out any mistakes, ill be glad to iron them ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Thanks, added... :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] acc49ers:
great app!! I have a couple requests. Would it be possible to include the ability to export/import the category list and also to edit the categories once they are made?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Hi Amir - This is a great app! It is more useful than I thought.:rolleyes: I didn't want to try it at first because I thought it was for grocery shopping only.:p It's not my fault! I was relying mostly to your screenshots:D

Since you are open with suggestions, please bear with me with the following enhancements that are not in your to-do list:

Sort Categories List in alphabetical order (it is currently sorted by the order the items were added)

Able to move an item from a category to another (I accidentally entered an item in the wrong category, and the only way to correct this was to delete the item and create a new one in the right category)

Able to copy and paste from clipboard in edit mode (it does not currently allow to copy and paste in edit mode)

Able to make a copy of an existing item in the same category (this could be useful if the item names are almost identical)

Able to add a note to an item for more details

Other observations:

each screen is shown in task manager (e.g. if I'm in Edit Shopping List and tap on the Categories list, I will see 3 entries in task manager. See attached screenshot! Note the one for Edit Shopping List is not properly displayed)

I think the item identation is too big or is that space is reserved for something else? If it is not reserved, I think reducing it to 1/3 would gain more spaces for item name
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
About cat export can you explain please how you want to use it?

about category edit you can do that today...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
:)

Thanks for the detailed feedback

A bit tough to refer to all from my mobile. I will do that when I'll be backhome...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Easy enough, I'll try to add it to next release...

You can edit and change the category of one or more items at the same time, just select (check) the items you want to change, and than select Edit from the menu

Cant with the current Manila library that I use, will look into it once I'll replace the library.

That will collide with another feature that I added (removing duplicate items), I'll see if/how that can be resolved...

Will be added to the todo list, though in low priority...

I'll check that...

This is sadly a limit of the Manila package that I use, I may move to another package to resolve this and many other issues I have with the existing one...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Thanks for your prompt responses! I look forward in the next release!:)

One more request:rolleyes::

Sort Saved Lists in alphabetical order
[Windows Mobile Software Development] acc49ers:
When I flashed a new ROM I could export then import my shopping list, but I want to also be able to import/export the category list. Right now when I want to add items to my list I have to enter in the categories again even though they exist in the list I imported. So I just want the ability to import/export categories along with the lists so they are there when I flash a new ROM. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
For full backup you don't need to do any export / import.

All you need to do is to backup/restore the ShoppingList.xml file (in the My Shopping List install folder).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Done, will be in next version :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
In the next version, when you do import, if an imported item has a category that is not in the category list - that category will be automatically added to the list.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] acc49ers:
awesome. thank you.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
[REQ] show taskbar

hi, and just discovered this nifty app from xda main page posts... it would be much more useable if you made it so it doesn't cover the top task bar, it's useful to have the buttons accessible especially if you have quickmenu installed or other taskmanager ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Obelix_A:
...this was my special wish also many posts ago.

may be an option to select if full screen or not?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Well two is a crowd, I cant stand against the public pressure... :o

The option will be added to the next version...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
:p

thank you! I mean, as long as it's a matter of 5 minutes changing the code, it's a nice idea to have that option. I wouldn't know if that's the case tho, WM developing is not among my freetime programming skills :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jdoublehaul:
Please help a Nube

Hi,

This is the first app I've attempted to add to my Touch Pro and I'm having some issues getting it to work.

The error message says that I "need a newer version of Microsoft .NET Compact Framework than the version installed on this device".

How the heck do I get this?

Very basic stuff for you folks I'm sure but I'm kinda lost.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards,

Jeff
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
googling before asking would have probably led you here :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jdoublehaul:
indeed....
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pavanmaverick:
One more request for this terrific app:

Would it be possible to make the lists so that the items can be ordered by the user, rather than having them alphabetically sorted automatically? Or is this an option that I am missing?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
This is already in the todo list, but is low priority,

In the meanwhile, if ordering the list is important for you, I suggest that you'll numerate the items, e.g. "01 <first item>" , "02 <...>" ...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] bluenote73:
Any interest in doing a syncing version amir?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Its a really nice idea, i'll add it to the todo list
[Windows Mobile Software Development] luckyuser:
The best shopping app I ever used, Thanks for sharing!:cool:

Looking out for new release!/updates.

have some little request to

- When I click on a category it would be nice if the articles belonging to this category should appear on the screen, without having to scroll to this category again .

- i would appreciate it when i could send (SMS) a selection of the total shoppinglist to someone. I tried a lot of times to sent a selection but everytime i recieve the complet shoppinglist.

Success with development!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] TheAgent1982:
Looks Great

Will Test it,

Is it in Hebrew also?

If not, i will Translate it ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
Where is that? in the editing shopping list window?

I will add an option for that in the next release.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] luckyuser:
Yes, it is in Edit Shopping List!

Would love it when i could sent selection by sms in several (more) windows of the app. than only from the window "Go Shopping".

Would be nice, when you could sent an earlier created list "Saved Lists".

And maybe in a later developmentstate send by mail, don't like it, love it.

Maybe another suggestion;

Tapping "Go Shopping" would redirect you to earlier Saved Lists instead of the whole Shopping List. Then you could make a selection of a list.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
This version had huge changes all over the code, please report if you find a problem, thanks....

New Version, Version 2.0

* Replaced michyprima Header, Text, MessageBox, and Button controls with my own controls

* Replaced michyprima SliderList control with the one made by Obelix_A

* New option to view the Application in full screen or not.

* New option to send only checked items via SMS

* Ability to Collapse categories (built in in Obleix_A control)

* Can now create a copy of another item in the same list.

* Auto open virtual keyboard on text input.

* Added Copy/Paste/Select-All context menu (long press) on Text-Edit fields

* Auto delete duplicate items (on copy items and add item).

* Sort Category List (except the special "General" category)

* Sort Saved Lists names

* Sort now ignores case on all lists.

* Multiple entries in the Task Manager should be fixed now (if not please let me know)

* On Import - If name of Shopping List already exist, items will be merged with the existing list (no creation of 2 lists with the same name).

* On Import - If an imported item has a category that is not in the category list - that category will be added to the list
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ephestione:
cheers! Installing right away... but it will be a while before I actually test it since I'm not really the shopper type :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Isadora:
Cool, will give the new version a try asap :). Any chance you might add AppToDate support? Would make getting updates even easier :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] amirdt:
hmm, well, AppToDate is supported since version 1.6

Did you have a problem updating via AppToDate?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Isadora:
Weird, it wasn't showing in my AppToDate checklist, just tried again after intalling the new version and it's there now. Probably just "one of those things" lol.

New version looks good, seems faster too :). So far no bugs or other issues, but then I only had a very quick play
[Windows Mobile Software Development] luckyuser:
Updating via AppToDate no problem, but have only boring issue with AppToDate itself because it won't store the cab files on my storagecard!(for archive).

Although I've set in AppToDate "save cab on storegacard".

But back to new version of ShoppingList, igive it a try and reply!

Thanks. Keep up great work;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] luckyuser:
* New option to view the Application in full screen or not.

Now its difficult to switch between ShoppingList app and another application with the HOME-button on my Touch HD. Version 1.8 no problem at all.The interface is a little more dancing now with this collapsing categoriebars! A little bit boring.

* New option to send only checked items via SMS

This works great sofar, but would it be possible to send only the articles/products (marked as RED) and not the categories text, because of the max.160 characters in an SMS.Categories could be done if you also could mail a list to somebody.

Grocery List

-= GROENTEN/FRUIT -=

aardappelen Bintjens

-= SPECERIJEN -=

knoflook poeder

-= VLEES/VIS -=

biefstuk kogel

* Ability to Collapse categories (built in in Obleix_A control)

Love that feature, but would it be possible when I close categories and you see only the header of the categorie (See pic.No1)that they will stay in that position even after a restart of the program. In my opinion they only should collapse /un-collapse when you manually tab them.

* Can now create a copy of another item in the same list.

That very nice, what i like the most is that automaticly the categorie pops-up when you copy the text in the inputtray.(see pic.No2)

- Made a new categorie, but didn't show on overview of categories in Edit Shopping List.(see pic.No3 + 4)

- When i'm in the screen of categories, and tap in my case on categorie "DRANK" it would be more logic when in the Edit Shopping List the same categorie appears at first. As you can see in screenshots for now its "BROOD/DEEGWAREN.

(see pic.No5 + 6).

Last but not least this will be a great app, i love it;)