yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
1 and 2 - It was designed long before touch and finger input, in a time when screen real estate was at a premium, when it had to be functional rather than look good.

3 - Well of course it has no inbuilt support for accelerometer, compass, proximity sensor and multi point input et al, again, it was designed long before those were even thought of. Thats why winmo 7 will be such a large departure from 6.x.x.

To compare 6.x.x to android and whatever the iphone OS is called is unfair, it would be like comparing OSx to win 95.

For such an aged OS, I think it holds up remarkably well, and so long as win7 lives up to its promise, I think MS can be proud of their old man mobile OS.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Yes, definitely, and as I said, neither iPhone nor Android can match it in terms of functionality. Even the (ugly) UI is more functional than what you find on the other systems.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
Heh, seems im arguing the same point, didnt mean to sound so confrontational.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
My post wasn't meant to bash Windows Mobile. It was meant to answer the thread question and I think it's actually necessary to inform about the real problems, instead of letting all the ignorant people and Apple fanboys on the web (and even on 'renowned' blogs like Gizmodo or Engadget) spread all sorts of nonsense that people then believe.

When you read Gizmodo's HD2 review, it immediately becomes clear that they actually haven't used the device at all, and the whole review is only meant for bashing Windows Mobile. They fail to mention one single reason why they're bashing the device for running Windows Mobile. Of course, that's because they have absolutely no interest in actually trying it.

Of course, people reading that kind of FUD then start to worry, and the result is threads like this one. That's why I try to give an honest answer. And when you look at it, there's really not that much wrong with WM. I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone who has no clue about computers, but it also still has quite a lot of advantages and definitely not more disadvantages than other operating systems (e.g. the iPhone completely fails as a communications device - but does anyone ever talk about this? Unfortunately not, people rather jumb on the WinMo bashing train, because that's easier as you don't have to mention reasons for bashing it, since everybody does it).
[HD2 General] matthewharmon102:
i think many people forget that windows mobile is old. its virtually impossible to make a FAIR comparison to other OSs as iphone OS and android are much newer, and were built to serve a purpose today, whereas winmo was built to serve its purpose years ago. having said that, even by todays standards, its still a decent operating system. the main issue i can think of is the UI not being brillient for touch input (although i personally do not have much of a problem with it) no matter what OS you choose, they all have good and bad points. for example android has no native support for bluetooth file transfer, video calling, J2ME (java mobile), generic Java apps (99% are written specificly for Android) animated gif files, install/run apps from SD card, right-to-left languages (arabic etc), not to mention major application compatibility issues between 1.5 and 1.6, the list goes on...

BUT

the whole point of having different manufacturers releasing different phones with the OS on them is so they can be customised to what they feel the customers want. HTC knew people liked their sense UI, and they didnt like wm UI, so put the 2 together and u have a potentially sucessful phone. i personally think a majority of people bashing winmo either havint used it since it was pocketPC 2002 (or dare i say earlier winCE versions) or a looking for a fault that 95% of users wont notice and wont care is there. take the UI, most uers wont come accross the windows mobile UI enought to get to a point of throwing the phone against a wall. i would say the android performance issues (running most apps in some kind of virtual machine) and the iphone lack of multi tasking to be more of an issue then 'occasionally a box appears that doesnt look like the sense UI and it has a button that i can press'

i love windows mobile for its almost out of the box customization. install a registry editor and you can do virtually anything with the OS.

oh and to the people who said windows mobile lacks support for HD video. its all about licensing. both microsoft and the manufacturer have to have a license to use certain technology. i know broadcomm own a majority of the bluetooth, but there is a company somewhere that owns the rights to what defines a HD video and manufacturers have to pay to use it. correct me if im wrong, but qualcom will have paid the fee to allow their processors to play HD video accoring to their standards and release the drivers for it, however if HTC believe that this feature is not important, then they simply wont pay for the license to use use qualcoms drivers. all the OS needs is the decoder and the drivers. winmo has the decoder (certainly winmo 7 will have) but if a manufacturer wont provide it then your stuck. i would think HTC are going to pull out all the stops with winmo 7, giving them time to tweak their device and test the drivers before releasing them.

im always of the opinion if you dont like it, then dony buy it and stop *****ing about it! hence why i will never own an itoy, or anything else with fruit on it (thats a story for another time!)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
OS: Windows Mobile 6.5

Rom: 1.66.119.0

Date Rom:

Radio: 2.07.51.05

Enjoy,

http://rapidshare.com/files/3448070...igned_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05_2_Ship.exe.html
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Peter Deijnum:
THX ! Please tell me how to download there ? I have an account but still i can't download :(

http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-2914-1-1.html
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
Dunno, just use rapidshare
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Fab985:
Thanksssssssss

Thanks xmoo :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] abumhmmd1:
another LNK plz ! ! !​
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Steve0007:
It looks like a ship rom

Thanks xmoo :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alesscam:
thank's XMOO ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
Is it a test ROM or Official ROM mate.... thank u man
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Peter Deijnum:
DarkForceTeam has no Rapidshare ! My link is different from yours ...

I want the new Topaz rom with sense 2_5_2011_3030_0
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
Just use my link!

this is a shipped rom!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alexnvidia:
is this a T-Mobile UK WWE official ROM?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] retrofred:
link no good

the rapidshare doesn't work, it tells that you have to a premium member. also this rom iss tmouk? or tmous?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] l3v5y:
It's a WWE T-Mobile ROM with Czech set as the default language for Manila and the default locale.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alexnvidia:
thanks for the info.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harry_dinh:
Some information:

RAM size 448MB:(

Flash Size 512MB

Rom Date 01/15/10

Manila 2.5.19211619.1
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] l3v5y:
Only the T-Mobile US ROMs are likely to have the 576MB RAM... This is for an EU device, so has 448MB.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] d4v0r:
What does HR stand for?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tonyjansen:
HR is the countrycode for Croatia (Hrvatska). But my best guess is that HTC means Hungary with it.

-T.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Gurgulio:
"hr" Hungaria is the Latin form of the word "Hungary"
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] balane:
Never mind, question answered. Thx.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] d4v0r:
Actually, I am from Croatia, and I know it should mean Hrvatska. So I was really suprised to see Croatian ROM, and had to check if it maybe means something else. Hungarian code is HU, as far as I know...

Too bad I was right, and HTC is not :(

Would be nice to have it in Croatian language.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Peter Deijnum:
How can i use your link ?

My link is totaly different rom

Just asking for how to download at DarkForceTeam ...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
Hello, I would like to use this ROM for my HTC HD2 from T-mobile. I will use this ROM in Czech Republic, is it possible? Will I have to use HSPL to flash this ROM? I think that when I will use HSPL I will lost guarantee...

I'm sorry for my English, I learn English...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
http://rapidshare.com/files/3448070...igned_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05_2_Ship.exe.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/3448070...igned_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05_2_Ship.exe.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/3448070...igned_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05_2_Ship.exe.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/3448070...igned_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05_2_Ship.exe.html

You can use HSPL, SSPL, or Goldcard!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] l3v5y:
I've got a mirror of this (also RapidShare, but still) here.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Thanks for sharing Xmoo. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Rod65:
Is it possible to install this "official" Rom without using sspl, hspl or goldcard on a branding free german device with german stock rom 1.66 ?

The idea is to flash this rom first to get the new radio and then flash stock rom 1.66
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
Flash HSPL, Flash ROM 2.02 using sd card (thiss will flash SPL2.0), flash this rom...

The SPL 2.0 is vendor id unlocked (as far as I tested it).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Rod65:
Thanx, I will try it this way.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] dingolino:
I was flashing this rom and as far as I have seen SPL is reporting to be 1.66 (and not 1.42)

If anybody could double check would be great

dingolino
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
the SPL :O or the rom?:O

Gonna check that out!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pablo11:
Can anyone tell me if this rom has navipanel included? Dont wanna reflash again if it doesn't.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] svetius:
Heh, trying to grab this ROM.

RapidShare is being super annoying today...keep getting the error:

(file name) could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.

Try again later, or contact the server administrator.

Anyone else having this issue?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] HkDng:
This is older than 1.66.707.1??????
[Touch 3G General] Alan B:
I have heard that if you get an Orange version of the Touch 3G. that they have limited how the WiFi works, IE you have to use their GPSM to access the internet, and they have disabled WiFi Access to the internet.

I would be greatful confirmation yes or no, Thanks Alan.
[Touch 3G General] mikecoffee:
hi

yes this true, i've got a orange touch 3G but it has a new rom installed. which removes all the crap orange software. this took all of 20 mins to sort out.

mike
[Touch 3G General] mikecoffee:
sorry just make it clear, i installed the new rom wm6.5 this actually makes the phone a great phone now. the original rom was tosh.
[Touch 3G General] Wolves4Ever:
Yep, Mike's right. Bin the orange rom and get 6.5 and you'll (mostly) not have to use your stylus again.
[Touch 3G General] Mavis Enderby:
With my orange phone I can still use WIFI to access the net but orange charges me for the privilege at the same rate as if I were using GSM. Pretty unfair as I am already paying them for my broadband connection...
[Touch 3G General] Wolves4Ever:
Well bin the orange ROM and pop 6.5 on instead.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] smartwild:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=622170

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=624545

I have noticed that these excellent roms are not posted in the sapphire section, so thought Ill post a thread.

and 32A's can try this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=601033 to port the roms
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] SarDroid:
Here is port KiNgxKxlick-AOSP2.1-v1.4_signed:

http://rapidshare.com/files/344829797/KiNgxKxlick-AOSP2.1-v1.4_signed-32A-port_signed.zip

You can try it...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Leffo:
Mirror please

Rapidshare wont let me in on this file. Can you give me a mirror, please

/Leffo
[HD2 General] acostaf:
Hi any ones knows who to prevent HD2 to unlock the screen when you answer a phone call from the Bluetooth?

Just saying because it's really annoying when you are listening to a podcast while you are walking work/home then wife call you and your answer the call from your nice Bluetooth Stereo headphone having the £500 phone in your pocket then press play to resume the podcast UI change to the music tab and since the phone screen is unlock any small touch will change the the track.

What a lack of testing this is!!!!!!!!!
[HD2 General] DontTellMe:
+1 Same problem every time when I use my Nokia BH-503. Sometimes after call the phone back to music player and start to play 5-10 sec. of every track and skip to the next one. Only way to start normal playback is to stop and start playback again and lock the phone manualy... It will be nice to find solution for this problem...
[HD2 General] ChitownWingMan:
I am having the same problem with my HD2 and my cars blue tooth system. I answer a call in the car and fter I hang up my phone starts making calls on its own. I'm on T-Mobile in the US.

I can't believe that they didn't find this after 6 months of use in Europe.
[HD2 General] ganchau:
Same issue here. Whenever i answer a call with my bluetooth earpiece, the phone unlocks. This is annoying since it would it would open all sorts of apps and change settings without me knowing.
[HD2 General] artswan:
So there is no way to prevent android to unclock screen himself? It is very annoying thing.
[Touch CDMA General] Minker17:
I wanted to flash Android over WinMo entirely. So I followed this guide (Method 1)after I installed HardSPL. Now the screen is just black. It's on, but just black. It isn't recognized by MobSync or the Updater.

Am I screwed now?

**EDIT** I kinda panicked at first, but then realized that I have to be able to get to the bootloader. So I figured out how, got to the bootloader and flashed it again. Same thing, black screen.

I assumed this would flash an Android build onto this? Do I still have to flash a build and how do I tell the difference between builds that run off SD and builds that are flashed entirely?
[Touch CDMA General] daganb:
Flash back to a stock win mobile rom, then restart your attempts to get android up and running.

It's not bricked if the device can get to bootloader and successfully flash.
[Touch CDMA General] Minker17:
So the guide I followed should have flashed a build onto there? Not just set it up so I could?

I really appreciate the help. I normally am in the G1 section, so doing this on the Vogue is kinda new.

Also, I'm really just interested in a 1.6 ROM. 2.x would be sweet, but only if the important stuff works.

What are the best 1.6/2.X ROM? I know it's subjective.
[Touch CDMA General] daganb:
You don't HAVE to flash to your NAND, I personally run android off my SD card until a few features become complete in it (A2DP Bluetooth :/ ). So far after testing all builds I have found ANDROID] Myn’s Warm Donut – DarkStar Themed to run the fastest and smoothest, however it is far from 100%. Basic functions work as well as bluetooth headsets, however apps are a 50/50 shot at working. For the most part the stability and basic functions are all complete tho. The new 2.1 builds show a great deal of promise.

This community brought my old Vogue out of storage and I have been using it again as my daily driver.

In one month I guarantee we will have a incredibly stable 2.1 build, these people are geniuses.
[Touch CDMA General] Minker17:
I know I don't have to, but I want to. I'm going to give it to my wife as just something to play with. It will have no data/voice so I don't want her to have to launch Android from WinMo every time.

But is that link in the guide from the first post supposed to flash a build or not? Do you know?
[Touch CDMA General] Minker17:
Double Post. Sorry.
[Touch CDMA General] Minker17:
Everything I try ends up with a Kernel Panic or something about the input messing up. I can't get past the Linux boot with the Penguin.

Any one have any idea why I'm having all these problems?
[HD2 Accessories] Johnston411:
Bought one of these for watching/listening to digital media on my TV and thought i'd see what happened when i plugged my HD2 into it.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/175291

Well it works :)

When you attach your HD2 if you choose disk drive mode on the device you can browse the filesystem of the microsd by choosing file from the menu (pic 2)

One nice touch is if you want to listen to music as you scroll the track automatically starts. If you have loads of videos they play in the thumbnail so when sifting through video001, video002, video003 etc you don't have to remember what each video is of which makes it great for watching your videos recorded on the device.

It also previews your pictures too.

Currently watching a 700mb film from the hd2 through it and it works without stutter so file size seems no problem either.

You can still receive calls texts etc without interuption to the media playback too.

Oh and it's getting a charge from it at the same time

Only downside is that the range on the remote seems a bit pants so i've put the box on the mantlepiece above the fireplace as opposed to in the corner of the room with sky box. It seems 10 foot is ok but 12 foot isn't

Also the menus aren't too pretty but they are only menus after all.

Worth noting i bought mine from ebuyers ebay account as it had free postage and the ebuyer website didn't.
[HD2 Accessories] Puckmeister:
i use my phone the same way on the WD TV Live, which supports hd videos

http://westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=735
[HD2 Accessories] Johnston411:
looks like a nice piece of kit and better spec too.

i was using a dock which takes usb, sd cards iphones etc but it was huge as it has a screen. wanted something smaller so took a punt on this as it was cheap and cheerful
[HD2 General] enping:
Ever since i updated to the new 1.66 ROM i have been unable to sync my hd2 with hotmail. everytime i tried to set up a new email acct using 'mail' tab on home screen, they simply open up my browser and send me to the hotmail site.

using the window live app gives me the same problem. With the old 1.48 i'm able to sync email with my hotmail acct directly thru the 'mail' tab on the home screen w/o opening the browser. anyone else experiencing this problem?
[HD2 General] niteowl360:
Live Account

I'm having the same issue, except on ROM 1.48 (still waiting for ROM 1.66 in South Africa!) So perhaps not ROM specific related! Maybe a hotfix somehow changed this. I am running the SMS Update of 24/01/2010 which seems to have fixed the SMS stuck in Outbox issue.
[HD2 General] DexterDuck:
I have updated to 1.66 and set up hotmail perfectly OK through the windows live app. It syncs every 30 minutes with no issues so far. Perhaps you have some other applications causing a conflict?
[HD2 General] taz5176:
have the same problem, i have to setup manually

enter a non valid hotmail acc first, eg. test@hot.com

then setup the rest manually, do not download mails at end of setup (it will fail anyway since it's not a valid acc).

upon setup finish, go back to your account settings & enter the correct hotmail acc, eg. test@hotmail.com. then download mails

1 thing strange is that it scan thru all your emails in your hotmail acc, which takes rather long time even though i set it for 7 days emails.

hope it helps
[HD2 General] TheRealBnold:
1.66 here, and yes...same problem with Windows live and hotmail. Wont work at all. Ill redo the 1.66 now and try hotmail right after to check if it works, before i do anything else. Stay tuned...
[HD2 General] TheRealBnold:
Worked perfect, now i just have to figure out what i installed to spoil it...
[HD2 General] TheChozen:
Same here...

...so I guess I will have to do (another) hard reset...unless you are faster than me, which I guess :D
[HD2 General] enping:
managed to get it working aft all... i simply ran the setup for windows live again... working perfectly now... weird... maybe there was something wrong with the hotmail website the last time? hmm...
[HD2 General] TheChozen:
Yeah, I have noticed the same. Might have been some serverside changes or something at Microsoft, since it seems to be running fine now :)
[HD2 General] ghost-5:
same problems here. Just done a hard reset and still no joy. Going to flash another rom and see if the problem goes away
[HD2 General] ghost-5:
flashed another new rom and also a old rom that I know works and it still won't connect to live services.

It'll ask for user name / password, and then start doing it's stuff - d/ling contacts, inbox, folders - but this will take around 10 minuted for it to complete.

It'll then come up with an sync error and go back to the main page. Looking at sync status though it shows it as successful.

Hopefully it'll all be working again tomorrow as it does seem to be a problem at microsofts side
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] axxo69:
I instaled this rom on my hd and doesnt hawe touch flo 3d and i want to know how to instal touch flo3d on it but I cant find separated cab file to instal touch flo, In most rom i think that roms allready have touch flo inside bat this doesnt, can eny body post alink that I could instal manila touch flo 3d, i hope you understand my question
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] axxo69:
I tried couples manilas instal but it doesnt work, enyone plizz help
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] axxo69:
I dont wont to instal a new rom becouse this is the fastest, all other roms are wery slow that is because i need manila touch flo for my rom, thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] millski:
Only way to get manila is to flash a rom with it cooked in.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] axxo69:
as i said i instald this rom because it is fast and has no bugs and delays, do you know any rom that isnt slow and that works fine on touch hd, i have tried couples of roms on this forum but my hd works very slow, i want "basic" rom for win 6.5 with touch flo or something like that
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Iosif1985:
Don't you think that the reason for this ROM's speed is the absence of Manila ?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] axxo69:
ok you are corect but why put then wm6.5 on touch hd becouse touch flo 3d doesnt work good, all roms for wm65 on xda for 6.5 have manila touch flo and on my phone doesnt work good, toooool slow, I dont know about youre phones but I am disapointed..... this rom that i courently have is great and fast only missing touch flo... great work on roms on xda but I dont like them because they are too slow....
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] millski:
Try miri's 2.1 rom: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=493911

If that's too slow for you then I suggest you either find a 6.1 rom or don't use manila. I use a 6.5.x rom with Leo 2.02 manila which is about as heavy a rom as you can get and I find it plenty quick enough, except for the HTC messaging client which is a problem in all manila 2.5 roms.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] axxo69:
XtraLight

http://htcpedia.com/miri_wm21889_xtr...stone-rom.html

Standard

http://htcpedia.com/miri_wm21889_sta...stone-rom.html

Premium

http://htcpedia.com/miri_wm21889_pre...stone-rom.html

Premium without Manila

http://htcpedia.com/miri_wm21889_pre...stone-rom.html

witc of them hawe manila???? Premium???
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] axxo69:
all links that you gave me arent working could you be so kind to post a working link
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] axxo69:
I need win 6.5 rom with manila that works fast and doesnt wor slo like the most roms on xda on my htc touch hd
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] axxo69:
i need win 6.5 rom with manila that works fast becouse almoust all roms on xda with manila work very slow
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] millski:
Link works for me. http://htcpedia.com/miri_wm21889_premium_v35/soft/htc-blackstone-rom.html