yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Off-topic] Dr.Thrax:
Folish Phone !!! LOL
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I can't wait for a tablet or netbook (or both) with full Windows 7 capabilities. I'm so there.
[Off-topic] freyberry:
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=KIqtSJ1aVsmVpeqS

http://www.archos.com/products/nb/archos_9/specs.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apwIiqIKf84

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-phhqLUmKHk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJWBRGcZitg
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Yeah those are awesome. I'd only get one with a hard keyboard, obviously, because on-screen keyboards are dumb. I see that the Eee has dropped in price since I first saw it and it comes with 7 Home Premium, too (no starter sets here please). I'll have to compare it to my current M140.
[Off-topic] freyberry:
I've got a Dell Latitude XT2. Bought it refurbished in the UK for 800 pounds (with next day service warranty).

A bit heavier but also a lot more powerful, of course.
[Off-topic] rs19078:
The archos 9 looks very nice and has alot of great features (windows 7, camera, etc), but having used the iphone and its capacitive screen, I feel like typing on the archos 9's resistive screen will not be as quick and responsive. It also doesn't have multitouch. I supposed I'll wait for one tablet with all of these features. The eee pc touch looks great though! will look into it more.
[Off-topic] freyberry:
Afaik the EEE PC has a resistive multitouch panel that's pressure sensitive. I find that a really good solution (of course not as good as Wacom/Ntrig capacitive with digitizer), cause inking on a non pressure sensitive screen is not that good.

Ah I forgot to mention the HP tm2. That thing looks very good, too, but a bit think and heavy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbLZQuB6d0o&feature=related <-- That's what the iPad should have been! An actual tablet, not just a blown up MID.
[Off-topic] domineus:
I too have a dell xt 2 and got the first xt...my xt 2 dual boots mac osx (native 1280x800 no open gl support =/) and windows 7.

Touch works, pen works. Multi tasking works.

Now I ask...why would I need a tablet that is a downgrade from what i already have!?
[Off-topic] BenF1:
LOL at this thread. I love how much this thread has derailed from the iPad to windows tablets.

Shows how much people care for it!
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
It's nothing without a mention of Chuck Norris.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Chuck Norris is SOOO 2007
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
Well we can't bring up the iTampon again
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I just love the waves of lawsuits coming Apple's way. They steal everything from everyone.
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
"I'm waiting for them to master Windows 7 on it"

problem is that it use "Apples" A4 cpu which is Arm based like the cpus we have in our phones

so for windows 7 to run on it (or mac osx for that matter) they have to be emulated

which the ipad don't have enough punch to do
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I was referring to the Eee PC.
[Off-topic] plugged_in_now:
Steve Jobs, Wednesday January 27 - "You can change the background screen, home screen, anyway you want, you can personalize it anyway you want ... And what this device does is extraordinary!"

"You can browse the web with it. It is the best browsing experience you've ever had! Its phenomenal!"

"Right there, holding the internet in your hands!"

I don't know what you guys are talking about, this device is amazing! I mean I am so bogged down with my set up, its like I don't even have a desk. And all the wires! They're running everywhere, I'll getting tied up in them all! This is the best thing I've heard of coming out since who knows when, it'll be quite the upgrade for me!

This is what I have to deal with -

Hopefully you understood that was completely sarcastic.

These two Apple products are described basically the same way and have basically the same importance in the world as the iPad -

The "Apple i"

The "Apple Wheel"
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
The crowning moment of the entire keynote was right after giving the iPad's specs, he stumbled and called it an iPod
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I would have loved it if the audience started to boo that old senile man
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
I did, then I laughed hysterically. Then I stopped because Steve Gods might get angry, and I don't want to deal with more fanbois than I already do
[Off-topic] wovens:
I knew that somebody had the idea before. See link http://www.pmptoday.com/2008/02/05/htc-magnum-biggest-working-touch-screen-cell-phone-revealed/

The comments sound funny now and there is also a youtube link

But only Steve had the face to take the joke and run with it.
[Off-topic] Tabbe:
i think apple are coming with a smaller version soon in their roadmap

codename iTampon

MOD EDIT: IMAGE REMOVED
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Wahhhhhhh, I realized I churned out a POS and now I have to thrash and tantrum!

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/01/31/steve-jobs-disses-adobe-and-calls-bs-on-google/

What a baby. Looks like he spent the rest of the week googling "ipad sucks"
[Off-topic] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
I know it may be fun to trash a device/company you may not like, but please keep it clean. :)
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
Things are more fun when they are dirty
[Off-topic] :
Yeah when I first saw it on the front of Engadget I though it was one of the mockups. Pretty lame. I really don't get the point, I have a netbook running 10.6.2 (which I'm typing this on) and I have no reason to use a tablet over it.

I really don't get it's purpose, it seems to fall short in every area it's meant to excel in:

E book reader - LCD rather than E-Ink

Gaming machine - too big to hold, touch screen only

Video player - 4:3 screen, all netbooks are 16:9
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
Netbook can be as low as $300 - iPad can be as low as $500

At least the iPad is super absorbent
[Off-topic] fiktion:
LMFAO ^^ at most of those!
[Off-topic] TrYde:
Apple fans (and Jobs) are so narrow-minded. That's why they think that flash only exists to read videos or create animated menus and that HTML5 will take over flash.

What they fail to realize is that flash is widely used for :

- Games

- Softwares

- Animations

- Rich-content websites

After that they claim that flash eats CPU, while it works great on winmo devices (maybe it's magic ?)

Who needs an iPad for browsing on sofa / bed when you can have an HD2 which does more ?
[Off-topic] the-equinoxe:
I think this is the best comparison till this date
[Off-topic] MikeChannon:
​

​

"Well yeah, it's kinda like a family thing......every other generation we get this throw back gene, and like we're real

proud of Steve....... but every once in a while he just sorta needs that lobotamy we been promisin' him."​

Mike​
[Off-topic] galaxys:
^LOL...that tape job is too much :D
[Off-topic] Alexander-HTC:
I was really hopping that Apple Tablet would cure all diseases be the real notebook/netbook with resistive touch screen so you could draw in Photoshop for example. I was hopping for professional device, but Steve Jobs revealed oversized iPod. The sad part is that almost everyone in school will have iPads like they have iPhones now because it is cool.

Here are some Steve Job's statements from Keynote which I liked:

"It is a dream to type on" on-screen keyboard of weirdly placed iPad

"The best browsing experience you’ve ever had. It is phenomenal to see..." the web without flash

"They're[netbooks] slow" because they are running multiple apps in ones.
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
You forgot

"So as you can see the i-iPod's hardware...." he said after giving the iPad's hardware. I think he is trying to say something
[Off-topic] jagan2:
Lol it seems that apple ipad have to be renamed

Fujitsu sues apple for "ipad"

Yea its true check out.
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
It needed to be renamed before they released it
[Off-topic] MonteCristoffOn:
Marketing rules... iLaw is iLow

Not for iDiots...

:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] fiktion:
That company threatening to sue over the design is full of crap. They've got no case.

Fujitsu, on the other hand, actually might.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
There's actually 2 lawsuits over the iPad name going, one by Fujitsu, who actually may have the strongest case, since they are the world-leader in tablet PC devices.

If you remember, iPhone was taken, as well, when Apple decided to release it and they were sued as well. In these types of cases, a judge will usually yell at both sides saying "WORK IT OUT!!!" and leave it at that. They tried to (Apple - monstrous company vs. plaintiff - little tiny business) and Jobs lied to them, saying that Apple would support them and team up in promotion. Apple never did.

All these news stories have really shown me that Apple is a huge a**hole company.
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
My uncle said he wanted one today, I said if he got one, I would b*tch slap him.

He's like "Have you seen all the things it can Do?". My answer was, "Yes, everything an iPod can do, only bigger. My PHONE does more than that thing."

His response to this was "Was that before or after you rooted it*?" Mine answer, "Before."

*He actually used jailbroke, I "nicely" corrected him in the coming comments. Those won't be posted for obvious reasons, do NOT use iPhone terms around me... or else.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Yeah, people like your uncle need people like us to get the word out about crap.
[Off-topic] Firerat:
I came across this a few months ago

http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/gallery.htm

the when I saw the Ipad I immediately thought of the touchbook, as there was mention of them working on Andriod for it.

looking at the site they seem to be backlogged on orders

anyone got one/seen one?
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Wow! That's incredible. Just install Windows 7 on it and I'll buy one.
[Off-topic] the-equinoxe:
If he does buy one.

Gather his closest friends and family, and utter your concerns.

Because such madness calls for an emergency intervention.

Hope he will be in his right mind soon ;) ,

EqX
[Off-topic] fiktion:
What? You mean release one crap device, then release an updated device to add things that should have been in the first release? Then release a 2nd updated device with things, that again, should have been in the first release?

If that's what you mean, I'd say yeah. Definitely their strategy.
[Off-topic] the-equinoxe:
FYI. The poster you quoted was a signature spammer which was banned for spamming the forum, that is why his original post is no longer there.

Regards,

EqX

BTW, regarding apple's release strategy, look at the 27" iMac mess.

Nuff said..
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I love that there are so many brilliant Apple haters here!
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
We're almost as brilliant as Steve Jobs :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] fiktion:
We will NEVER be nearly as brilliant as the ultra-fantastic Mr. Jobs! How DARE you even utter such words.... :mad:
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
jobs don some good things in his life but making him out as some sort of godlike figure is silly
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
That's like saying that "Google is good at search but they're not the best", how dare you say Jobs is not a god.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
God of yuppie douches!
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
Are you saying you don't pray to him? Blasphemy.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
A tree is more useful than the iPad.
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
A rock is more useful than the iPad, at least they can make things
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I can't believe anyone is going to buy a large touch ipod that can't download anything unless apple approves it. That's just disgusting.

If you think about it, there are two equivalents to this. You're an employee in a company with sound IT policies that don't allow you to install anything without corporate approval. Or you're a high school kid working on the library computer and aren't allowed access to many things or even download what you want.

Wow. WOW. You're either a high school kid or employee of Apple. WOW.
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
And if you're both, suicide is the only way out
[Off-topic] fiktion:
My bad, I forgot [sarcasm] tags.
[Off-topic] fiktion:
[sarcasm]While Jobs is a freakin genius, and my hero, and I idealise him, I'd have to say that I pray to Joe Pesci, and worship the sun.[/sarcasm]

Maybe I should pray for Pesci to take make Steve Jobs brain dead... Oh wait, silly me. That's already a reality. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] Gimenez:
These better run Windows 7 like they promised or else is completely junk... This is an oversized/priced iPhone... So far I see nothing special.
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
These don;t run Windows 7. They run a bigger version of iPhone OS.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
http://gizmodo.com/5461810/windows-7-running-on-the-apple-ipad-via-citrix

But there's also news stories out there that say that the iPad is so worthless, it will drive up sales of Windows 7 because people will buy better tablet PCs.
[Off-topic] Gimenez:
Hm I just read that Windows is indeed being ran from another server not the actual iPad. Meh.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
haha, goddamnit, although, no one's dumb enough to buy a tablet for Windows 7 without a hard keyboard anyway
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
I don't understand the "no keyboard" craze going on, I absolutely LOVE my G1's keyboard.
[Off-topic] poetryrocksalot:
Yuck I love keyboards but I hate the G1.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Someone at work has one and I thought the G1 keyboard was decent.

I don't get people that are okay with an on-screen keyboard. I get annoyed typing on mine most of the time, and that's with many different versions of keyboards available. Typing on a touch screen monitor is not fun either. I don't think people realize how much it's going to suck on the iPad. We have touchscreens at work for staff to enter data and nobody likes using the on-screen keyboards.
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
I love the G1, its keyboard layout is one of the best of all time. However, this is all opinion.

Nobody likes the Droid keyboard.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
hahahahahaha

Study: The more you know about the iPad, the less you want one

HAHAHA

http://www.retrevo.com/content/blog/2010/02/apple-ipad-hoopla-fails-convince-buyers
[Off-topic] Pluto:
believe me or not , there is something i actually like about the iPad

,i guess i'm gonna buy it to play games and read e-comic books :p
[Off-topic] kdj67f:
[sarcasm]

I <3 apple lolz!!!11!

[/sarcasm]

That is the exact statement I expect to get from the first tween that I pass by with an ipad. :D
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
No flash = 80% of any online games will not work without a separate application that Apple profits from

No keyboard = Playing a DS with a larger screen and NO BUTTONS. Good luck with that one. Everyone knows holding a big ass screen up like a steering wheel tires the hell out of your arms. I learned that when I bought a P5 Glove.

If you want to read comic books, why not just get a tablet PC, which allows you to do other fun things like browse through XDA forums and type on them with a hard keyboard?
[Off-topic] orb3000:
This is one of the best hardware keyboards to date!:

HTC Universal
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
It's pretty interesting looking. I'd love to try it out, but I'd doubt I'd ever find one in the States.
[Off-topic] Pluto:
True enough , i guess i'm gon' wait for the HP slate , or the Lenovo I1 Hybird :)
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Smart man.
[Off-topic] megg:
hi guys ...do you think the ipad will support java sites and applications? :confused:
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
no flash no java
[Off-topic] Enricosteph:
Hy to all......

Yesterday i bought an Archos 5 Internet Media Tablet with 60 GB HDD!

It can surf the Internet via Wlan,it plays Videos and Music an reads Ebooks and PDF and and and.........

And this F*** thing costs 130 euro at Amazon......for me a good and cheap way......:D
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
There, I fixed it
[Off-topic] ericc191:
I'd love to see the iPad fail. Maybe I'm bias?
[Off-topic] KSon82:
I owned the iPhone, it was a great MP3 player, but my HD is proving to be just as good.

But that's the iPhone, the iPad had fail written all over it from the get go. I think the old Newton had more functionality (and a pen!) then the iPad has.

They're touting this off as the next best thing when it comes to web surfing, but no flash? WTF kinda web is that? Then, they're saying this thing will be a killer eBook reader, funny. I have a Sony eBook reader and think I'll stick with that, besides I'm not TIED to iTunes to move my media around.

It's an iPhone I

can't

fit in my pocket! :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] JAguirre1231:
Or make calls with.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Old Willy, right on cue...

"Bill Gates criticizes the iPad"
[Off-topic] fiktion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRR2A3bJwEM

My thoughts exactly.
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Lol!!

Damm good!!:D:D
[Off-topic] galaxys:
LOL...that's a real kick :D
[Off-topic] sheennick123456:
has anyone seen this???

looks promising and has nVidia tegra 2 !

http://www.yourmobileblog.com/2010/02/notion-ink-adam-ipad-killer-with-specs-and-video/
[Off-topic] liamhere:
whats a keyboard????
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
"Bill Gates criticizes the iPad"

a bit hollow for gates to say stuff should have keyboards as we

took a pretty active role in the tablet concept when ms was all about in back in 2002

hope this is not a sign ms will not keep improving windows to work well with others means of input then keyboard and mouse

we want voice, touch, writing and maybe eventually brainwave interface for our computers and we want them to be instant on like our phone

(would suppose that ipad is instant on as it's smaller clone (mini me) iphone)

so thats one thing they got right with the ipad

hoping for asus to bring me something great they seem to be innovative these days
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Part of me really would rather use a keyboard than to be talking to my computer. Same goes for over the phone: I'd rather text than make a call.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
I am so sick of virtual keyboards. When will people understand that they will NEVER be the same as hard keyboards. I don't care what anyone says, I can type faster and more efficient on a hard keyboard ALWAYS.
[Off-topic] Enricosteph:
I agree......^^^^^^

Thats why i´m sold my Omnia and bought an HTC S740.....greatest Phone i ever had.....and an full Keyboard......:D
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
I'm sure you can and I know that I can too

people younger then me can t9 sms type much faster then me using a full size keyboard

though

but tests also showed that old pro telegraph guys could beat those insanely fast t9 sms typing Asian girls when it came to speed (well maybe in a cage-fight too :P)

it's what works best for one, one should use

personally light surfing on the sofa virtual keyboards are ok I click and read more then I type in those situations

so I don't really see the need for the ipad keyboard as that would be a pain to balance on your lap :P

and on a table it would seem they are trying to replace a desktop which an ipad could never do without flash and most likely not supporting the interface of ones internet bank

if apple had managed to make a tablet running osx

using an atom cpu, still being able to run iphone apps

having front and back camera supporting writing and voice

supporting bootcamp so I could dualboot win7 and osx

same batt life

same cost

then I would buy it of cause these requirements are crazy I know but :P

maybe that book tablet ms made some proof of concept videos off some time ago would fit the bill but ms is not really in the hardware market and I would not trust hp, lenovo or dell to get it right
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Yes, but this proves nothing. I'm sure they can type faster on a hard keyboard than they can type t9 virtual.
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
no those telegraph pros can type soo fast because they only have to be _ and . 's so it's one finger movement only

same with t9 but to a lesser degree being the more keys == more movement of fingers

same reason why they use stenotype in courtrooms

and why Dvorak is superior to the keyboard type we use where our key-placement is like it is for mechanic old-school typewriters had the layout so that they pins would not get tangled

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Note_on_keyboard_layouts
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Why not just make your own layout!!!
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
yeah it's cool but think it's too expensive

and if I spilled in it I would have to punish myself pretty hard :S
[Off-topic] hello00:
I can type fast even with my eyes closed..on virtual keyboards, you have to make sure you tap on the right key, or if you have tapped it or not
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
good point, plus, the angle of having the keyboard on the same plane as the monitor you're supposed to be viewing is dumb.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Buying an Apple product is the equivalent to paying $400 a night to stay at a Budget Inn. They have a bed, there's a lock on the door, the window slides open but just 3 inches because the hotel limits you to that, a bathroom with free Suave shampoo, and a Bible in the dresser. It just works; it's just what you need to stay overnight, except that you're paying $400/night. I'd rather stay at the Hyatt, thank you very much!!! There's a fridge, free wifi, a great view, nicer digs, modern decor, Crabtree & Evelyn bathroom amenities, a microwave, robes, and room service. It just works, but better. And it's only $300/night!!!
[Off-topic] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
VERY detailed and interesting analogy. :)
[Off-topic] Wilhelm:
Scratch that second amemity you mentioned.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
which one?
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
The newest of hilarious photos...
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
the not being able to show farmville speak in favour of the ipad though :P
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Yeah, I personally think Farmville blows, but the point's made!

Why is it cool to be a farmer? Oh wait, it's not.
[Off-topic] tkirton:
But it has a crippled OS, one designed for an iPod. I have one of those netbooks with both WinXP Home (bleh) and Ubuntu 9.10...not only is it usable, but I get around 5-1/2 hours of battery life.

But I have not one, but two fully functional OSes.

Had Apple put the Mac OS X on it and a couple of USB ports, then I would be in full agreement that this will be the next big thing from Apple. I honestly think it won't be as big as the hype is.
[Off-topic] Macmee:
I absolutely love how the Microsoft fanboys are hating on the Apple product (as usual) without actually using it (as usual). Come on now, havent you folks learned your lesson on spreading ignorance after the iPhone?
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Uhm, last time I checked, my phone PWNS the iPhone. Last time I checked, my laptop PWNS the iPad. I have plans to replace my aging XPS laptop with a tablet with the following requirements:

multitouch

expandable to at least 2GB of RAM

at least 80GB hard drive

Windows 7 ultimate compatible

a decent processor

cd/dvd drive

HARD KEYBOARD

can install my OWN software/hardware

oh, and one more thing

It doesn't make me look like a douche carrying it around.

I guess that last one completely eliminates any Apple products from my scope. Oh well.
[Off-topic] Dr.Gonz0:
A real farmer is cool, but this virtual bs is just that... absolute crap! Just like the ipad and I wouldn't buy one even if it were cool just coz Steve Jobs is a ****... voting with my dollars hehe and that jerk can't have any of mine
[Off-topic] SeanFromSoCal:
New Demographics for Apple iPad??

The iPad is would be great for the the elderly (is Jobs part of this group yet?). Their eyesight isn't what it used to be. It's hard for them to get used to this new technology and all the steps that we take for granted using the computer everyday.

Something very simple to use for them would be nice. Maybe this thing running an unmodified version of the iPhone's e-mail app upscaled with 36-72pt font sizes and huge 1"x2" reply/forward/delete buttons would be great for giving the grandparents for next x-mas so they can their e-mails.
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
Don't they sell that in a bottle?

http://www.liquidass.com/