yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Thats exactly what I would be hoping to find. I am not a dev either but it seems we can get this figured out. Here is what I found out.

I made a cab and applied those registry settings to change the band type menu to make it look like the telstra rom. And it did in fact work. I was able to select 5 and 6 setting. Which were not accessible with the unbranded rom.

Quick recap here was my rough chart.

radio setting.................Telstra............................ .............Unbranded rom

1.(dword0)........................auto..................... .............................auto

2.(dword1)........GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100).............GSM( 900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)

3.(dword2)...........GSM(1900)+UMTS(850)................... ........GSM(1900+850)

4.(dword3).........................NA...................... ..................UMTS(2100+900)

5.(dword4)..........GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850+2100)........... .........NA

6.(dword5).............GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850)............. ..............NA

Now other than being able to select different radio settings did this help us? I dont believe. Setting 3 still seems the best choice from either rom for our network. Setting 5 added another gsm and utms band that we cant use. And setting 6 added just a GSM band that we cant use. But they were selectable and the phone did function with both of the additions as I suspected they would.

I have been able to determine by searching the internet which GMS band ATT is particular with. It would be either GSM 850, 1900, or both. Our ideal choice with this phone would be (GSM850+1900)+UMTS(850) which of course we arent given in either menu.

But what if there were other settings buried in the radio that we could add to the menu? As the menu demonstrates there are selections hidden depending on which rom you install.

Being able to extract that radio definitely will be a good thing. I am using radio 2.08.50.08_2 with the sea wwe 1.66 rom and am not having any issues at the moment. But it would be great if we could tear apart the radio if thats where the selections are and easily adapt the menu for these new selections.

But I am not a dev with cellphones at least. PC windows and j2me os phones such as the samsung and lg series I have gotten to know very well. But I am a quick learner.

I am including the cab file that will make the Band Type menu of the unbranded rom firmware look like the telstra rom's menu. It is uninstallable. Try and use at your own risk ofcourse. Reset your phone after installing and go to the menu to make your selection. settings/wireless controls/phone/band. I have tested installing and uninstalling it myself. At this point I still say setting 3 is best on both menus so it is not really needed except for cosmetic reasons.

And then again maybe setting 3 does include GSM(1900+850) and UMTS(850) if you look at both versions of the menu. Telstra just may not use the 850GSM band and did not list it. Using setting 3 with unbranded rom does give me UMTS850 although it is not listed.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Ago,

are you even reading my replies

? I am in the process as we speak of tearing apart the telstra rom pre release version and will keep you all informed when I am done. Yes, the radio file is what I am after and then will post at rapid share for all to download. this is a very long process so it hopefully will be tonight otherwise tomorrow morning. Kevin
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Hi Bata,

Finally a few minutes to reply you. Welcome to the club by the way. My best idea like throughout the thread is to recommend Dutty's ROM'S and they are also the most popular on this thread though many use Miri's, and the latest S.E. ASIA ROM 1.66 HTC OFFICIAL. Dutty's are very, very close to the htc stock rom yet with his own optimizations for speed and stability. The choice is really your's though and what your looking for a rom to do. All 3 mentioned are very good rom's and you can't go wrong with any of them. Kevin
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I read everyone of your replies. Extracting the radio is good for everyone I said that. But it does nothing for what i have posted. Installing the radio doesnt bring back the Telstra menu or in fact change the band frequencies.

For those that want the telstra radio...good. I am happy with my radio at the moment. Seems to be doing fine. I rarely see anything but an H with 3 to 4 bars. If i do its 3G. I have had no data lockups in the past 3 days, call quality is good, and battery seems to be doing as well as any other radio that I have installed.

Changing radios doesnt seem to have any affect on band selection. My cab file was just to select the correct band so the switching doesnt occur that much. And it doesnt seem to matter which rom whether unbranded or telstra, setting 3 is the most desireable atleast for me. Whether I can actually pull apart a radio to see what each setting applies to might not be possible. If I cant then I will keep at setting 3.

Your time and effort to show me the pics verified dword values of what I posted earlier. Thankyou. I now know there is a total of 6 different settings that can be applied to the network type menu.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Thanks Ago meant alot. Seriously. You don't need to pull apart the radio file from the rom for I am still working on it and it is not easy. If in the unlikely chance I don't suceed for I did it before why not now Dutty, yes the master himself, will do it for me for we have been pming each other daily over msn and I gave given him alot in donations so either way by tomorrow mid afternoon our time here in the states all of you will have the radio file.

Last but not least, all of you keep that link I gave you for warranty and product update reasons for when it is finally released it will be there that you will need to go. Approximate time frame for official release 2-3 weeks. Kevin
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
No Im not talking about extracting the radio from the rom. Thats all yours. LOL. I was hoping to pull aprt the actual radio by theory and look inside it. For example to find if dword2 is selected in the band menu what frequencies it actually allows. So the menu can be better adapted for us ATT users. The menu is just cosmetic to allow us to choose dword 0 to 5.

For example dword2 selects (setting 3) different things on 2 roms. GSM(1900+850) on the unbranded rom and GSM(1900)+UMTS(850) on the telstra rom. But using that setting on the unbranded rom with an unbranded radio I do infact get the UMTS850 band. So I conclude that setting 3 actually selects GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(850) independantly of which rom or radio you have flashed on your HD2.
[HD2 General] bataHD2:
Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the warm welcome.

Can I have the link of the Duttys ROM?

Before installation I need to update HSPL right.

Soory If I ask too many question.

:)
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Not a problem and happy to help you Bata. www.htcpedia.com then go to the APP'S SECTION, you must register at their site to download the rom though, and there you have it. Please make sure to hspl first as you have said or you won't be able to do it. If any problems let me know and I will continue to help you. Kevin
[HD2 General] mikron15:
Seriously dude, get off your horses and read the posts 5 times before replying any BS since i take it English is NOT your first language. There was nothing Ago did to you in his last post other than you

failed to read his post clearly

.

I have been reading this thread since it was created and I had enough of your bickering. So here I am (heck even others) politely asking you to act more mature, learn to ignore stuff posted online and finally keep your ego, "donations" and attitude at the door. This is an open public forum where everyone is entitled to post whatever they want as long it abides the posted rules.

Take a chill pill!

Pz
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
whatever and english treats me just fine thank you very much. Do you have anything to contribute to my thread? Thought so.
[HD2 General] micaman:
Well I had to unsubscribe to this thread..good info here but way too much noise. Kevin I can appreciate that you are trying to help the newbies with flashing issues and where to find roms but that info is all over this site and for the most part clearly labeled. By answering these types of questions here you are further encouraging similar requests which are NOT T9193 specific. Perhaps you should advise them to read the entire thread and to pm you with any hand holding. Not trying to flame, just would like to see this thread back on track.
[HD2 General] thumpabar:
This thread may suck the brain cells from your head :(

Lasted a bit over half a day at least!!

I think a lot of people here don't/won't/can't read the posts correctly and go off on tangents, actually some start on tangents!...shame really :(

I agree with mikron15 and to all...TAKE A CHILL PILL!!
[HD2 General] lquigley:
Wow, Wish we had more perfect "kevins"!

Originally Posted by kevinrirvine

AGO,

There is another thread started by matthew01 who ridiculed me incessantly in his 4 posts here that I think you should go to and dominate like you have been trying to do here all day. Yes, Ago, I am very nicely asking you to leave and not post in my thread anymore. You cannot, blah blah blah

Quig's comment:

I didn't know you could own a thread? Most forums let members post anywhere they want, especially if they have more correct info than the "owner" of thread!! I'll check with admin. see if someone other than mod or admin. can order others around? Agoat never said anything that was bad towards you, might have corrected some of your errors, but, anyone should appreciate being corrected, so right info gets to forum,.. Right ? You might have some good info to add to thread, but you need to learn some people skills, like treat people the way you want to be treated!!
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
My apologies to the forum

I apolgize kevin for trying to post information to help out the T9193 with ATT. I apolgize that I have figured out something that makes the radio stable in the T9193 or atleast my phone. I apologize because I was following xda-developers rules and not starting a new thread but joining in on a discussion about the T9193. I apologize for posting in one post everything about flashing the T9193 instead of doing it through PM's and not sharing it with the forum as that's how it is done on forums. I apologize because I was able to use a telstra rom completely with ATT and told how when you said it was impossible to do but now you say that is the best to use since I proved it could be done. I apologize because I posted a thread where somebody else already posted the new telstra rom.

Forget that. I am not sorry for any of that at all. All I was trying to do was make the T9193 better. What have you done Kevin?

But in all seriousness I apologize to the other members that have to put up with this. And I apologize to Fallen Spartan and the rest of xda-developers who have to keep coming to this thread and read this crap.

You got your wish Kevin. I will go elsewhere. blah,blah,blah
[HD2 General] lquigley:
Wait!

I think the members would rather have the person who didn't cause problems, & wasn't worried about who got credit for info. It was all for the good of members, not Kevin's big head!!
[HD2 General] bataHD2:
Hi Kevin,

I found these on the site, however, I can't tell what is the difference of the two version?

:confused:

v3.51: (Latest)

14.02.10 - Build 21892: http://66.109.23.107/Roms/Touch-IT//HD2/BL3.5/Touch-IT_BL_21892.7z

14.02.10 - Build 23534: http://66.109.23.107/Roms/Touch-IT//HD2/BL3.5/Touch-IT_BL_23534.7z
[HD2 General] bataHD2:
Hello Alex,

I found out that out have HTC HD2 T9193 and you got data plan from Telcel.

Any chance you try Dutty ROM? Thus Asian ROM works stable?

thanks

bata
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
bata you do not have the right roms. here is where they are at exactly. www.htcpedia.com then apps then look for leo roms DUTTY. KEVIN
[HD2 General] Kawaelde:
Update

Kevin, an update. Phone worked marvelously over a 3 ½ hour trip up and back. Phone, text and internet coverage here in Michigan stayed 95% time connected except where there lacked obvious known coverage. Afraid to do much manipulation regarding the radio subject since everything is working nice and stable. Not to put cart before the horse – just read WinMobile 7 is announced and coming out later this year. From what I’ve read should it be upgradable with the HTC HD2. Am I correct in this assumption. Sounds like I made a good purchase decision so far to me. Thanks and will keep checking this thread for update information – appreciate the work.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Thanks Ago though you probably will not read this but most of your above comments are merely your opinion and most incorrect. You have made some valuable contributions to this thread for mine and others benefit, but 80% of the material here I brought in for the benefit of all. Something you neglected to mention. If I was such a bad person why do I constantly get pm's from people asking for my help and I help them with a smile on my face.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Your more than anyone has constantly bashed me incessantly and it is growing old and far from true. Please try and make an actual contribution to the thread rather than bad mouthing me all the time. Just a thought and I am being nice. Kevin
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
If you are going to continue to bad mouth me then yes I will read and speak. All you have done was brag and lead people by the hand to install roms. That has nothing to do with the T9193. Show me 80%. You have done absolutely nothing and brought nothing. You cant handle someone actually out doing you and trying to make this a worthwhile thread. And how many people have you called idiots and turned them away. And if you are going to keep quoting me and bringing up my name I will be back. So if you dont want me to post in this thread anymore then end it here.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Maybe you should try it too.
[HD2 General] Bwhite4801:
I was thinking about getting this phone but worried about the 850mhz coverage in my area. I live in Howell, did you happen to venture out that way?
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Yes, you are and it is actually coming much sooner than by the end of this year. Early to mid summer last I heard. The first device to break in the new os will be the codenamed HTC OBSESSION, AKA TOUCH DIAMOND3, and I can't wait for that one as well. Glad your happy with your purchase and I agree wholeheartedly if your device is working the way you want it to don't mess with it. Take care, Kevin
[HD2 General] Kawaelde:
Howell

Haven't specifically been out to Howell yet.. I will be later this week at Grand Oaks Ice Arena. I live in Milford and have zero problems. Was down at the JOE last week and again no problems down to the city for me or the g.f. Went over the weekend up to Atlanta/Alpena area. Then Mackinaw city .. again no problems at all. Up north is primarily 850 coverage from what I researched. G.F. phone was connected virtually to internet about 95% of the time. The other we knew there was no service available (for any carrier). Hope this helps.
[HD2 General] Bwhite4801:
Perfect thanks
[HD2 General] matthewf01:
Everyone, I've got a thread going under HD2 General which I hope to maintain as a more organized, structured source of information which is T9193 SPECIFIC, to help users considering the phone, or members who own them and want to discuss topics specific to that particular model... it can be found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=633404
[HD2 General] lquigley:
Great,

Sounds good to me, appreciate your good attitude,,Quig
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hello guys

i have a t9193 from australia telstra.i like to know is the dutty rom leo hg_v0.8_radio_2.07.50.2 comes with a manila version a rom version and a radio version together or separate? i want to install this dutty rom but not sure it will mess up the phone.thanks
[HD2 General] radoste:
is the body any different then the original one?

Thanks
[HD2 General] Fallen Spartan:
I posted a warning stating this was last chance saloon and that all bickering should stop.

Unfortunately no one seemed to listen to my advice. Bickering has continued and thread has gone off on tangents on more than one occasion since.

I do not wish to close threads, but sometimes its the best and easiest solution for all.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience this may cause to some users, but rest be sured another thread exists to aid and assist you here

Rick
[HD2 General] lude219:
I agree. badddddd balaneee, badddd!!! :D

Let's keep this thread on topic;)
[HD2 General] bersca:
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[HD2 General] Spike15:
I facepalmed and started ranting to my girlfriend when I saw this.

HSPA IS 3G.

This is the problem with the "3G" branding -- people stop knowing what they're talking about.

What "3G" means on your phone is that you are currently within UMTS/WCDMA coverage. HSPA is HSDPA and HSUPA (both of which the HD2 supports) and are protocols which extend and improve the performance of UMTS/WCDMA.

It is still 3G.
[HD2 General] lude219:
facepalm'd. This is the problem of people who don't know what they're talking about. I never said it's not a protocol of 3G, I simply said that HSDPA is faster than 3G (as in its speed). Is it not?
[HD2 General] Spike15:
No because "3G" doesn't even have a speed. It's merely a means of identifying 3rd generation (UMTS-based) mobile technologies.

HSPA IS "3G". UMTS/WCDMA IS "3G".

You should've said: "HSPA is faster than UMTS/WCDMA."

EDIT: As an aside, why is everyone so fixated on "HSDPA", do most places not support HSPA (meaning they've implemented HSUPA also)?
[HD2 General] lude219:
This is laughable. So, when a phone has an "H" symbol or a "3G" symbol, it's all the same? Gotcha. I feel bad for your gf when you're feeding her all this information.
[HD2 General] Spike15:
No.

When you see the "3G" icon on your phone, that means that you are within 3rd generation coverage -- UMTS/WCDMA.

When you activate your data connection, either the "3G" icon can remain, which means that the network you're on doesn't support HSPA, or it'll jump to "H" which means that you're using HSPA.

The fact-of-the-matter is that the icon is erroneous. There is no "3G", it's just terminology to refer to a generation of mobile technology. In reality it should show a "U" (for "UMTS") or "W" for (for "WCDMA").

I had a CDMA TP2, and I'd get coverage either as "1x" (referring to "1x RTT") or "EV" (referring to "EV-DO rev A"). If they'd decided that "1x" should read "2G" instead, would that mean that EV-DO rev A would no longer be a 2G technology? Would that make 1x RTT somehow "2G"?

No.
[HD2 General] lude219:
Why are you writing all that pointless stuff? When you establish a data connection, depending on what your cell tower allows, you will come within range of either a 3G speed or HSDA speed. Regardless of what kind of semantics you want to get into, there's a HUGE difference in speed between 3G (~384kbps) and HSDPA (+1Mbps)...which was my answer to the other poster.
[HD2 General] iseedeadpeople:
how about this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875502039&cm_re=htc-_-75-502-039-_-Product
[HD2 General] Spike15:
It's not "pointless". You are wrong. You are spreading misinformation/confusion.

HSPA IS A 3G TECHNOLOGY!

You can't act like "3G" is somehow different from "HSPA" when, in reality, "3G" is a superset of "HSPA".

Stop talking about things you don't [fully] understand:
[HD2 General] 10332007:
Holy crap people take it to PM... This thread is about the phone working on AT&T. Not who knows more than someone else on the Internet....
[HD2 General] Towserspvm2000:
I admire honesty! lol
[HD2 General] Wevenhuis:
Pictures, videos, screenshots???
[HD2 General] fnuna:
Doesn't support 3G AT&T

That's the european/asian version. Will work on AT&T network but just GSM (to make and answer your calls) and EDGE as well, but it hasn't the proper AT&T 3G frecuency to work in 3G speeds (Too much money for such a limited phone). It says so in the right end of the page.

The only store that I found to be selling the 3G AT&T version (T9193) in America in Negri Electronics, but they will have the device in stock until the next week. Anyway, you can make a preorder on their web page.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Thread Starter Kevin Needs help uploading my many photos of hd2

I know been a member for 4 yrs and have no clue how to do this. Anyone who can help you will see several photos, device, box etc shortly. Congrats to all I believe 3 of you are getting yours today. Will also post more impressions mostly positive from 2 going on 3 days of use. FYI: I strongly advise to keep the existing telstra radio on the device when flashing other custom roms for it cater's to the 850 frequency we need. Posted the number earlier but here it is again:205.51.11. Thanks, Kevin
[HD2 General] iseedeadpeople:
after 2 days and 6 pages no pics yet? your killing us OP

I love to see one!!
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Your a funny man and yes to some extent busy with work or not I have let you all down here. Please read my previous reply for all 10 have been taken ready to upload to xda but I do not know how to do this. Once you or anyone tells me it will be done later this afternoon for still at work. Heh, at least give me credit for other things like having answered ever question posted to me in this thread and honestly. Later this aft between 4-6 p.m. C.S.T. Kevin

P.S. Please other people getting your devices today don't out of respect for me post your's first for this would make me look bad and embarrass me. Kevin
[HD2 General] matthewf01:
Would it really? :confused:
[HD2 General] fnuna:
You are wellcome

Hi, I have a question I've been asking to your store by e-mail but got no response. You HD2 will have the Telstra ROM or an HTC ROM?
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
He is selling the right version rest assured. All the t9193's come with the stock Telstra Rom on the are unlocked out of the box but as mentioned at the beginning of the thread you will need to hspl your device for the telstra one is completely unusable. Now you don't have to wait for the reply from Negri. Kevin

If someone beats me to the photo thing I quess I am ok with this though I would like to be the first.
[HD2 General] Spike15:
Knock yourself out.
[HD2 General] matthewf01:
Awesome, comes with sunglasses.

:cool:
[HD2 General] Spike15:
=P

I was too lazy to go rooting through my girlfriend's backpack (the second HD2 in the later pictures is hers, she bought about an hour after me) to find the case for them.
[HD2 General] mrmomoman:
[/QUOTE]

Negri - how about you come down on the price a little ? ;)

Give us a group special. I am about to place an order overseas for one.

What can you do for us?
[HD2 General] Funk2641:
Seriously.

It was kinda a stretch to say he was "first in the Usa" 2 days ago and not post pics. I mean, come on
[HD2 General] netonyx:
That's the Europe model. You mean this: (argh, pretend there's a link here) /touch-t9193-smartphone-unlocked-p-3108.html

I got excited when I clicked that other link, and initially thought you had dropped the price in the last couple of hours. :)
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
What, I am honest to a fault and this was uncalled for.

I really resent this comment for have had the photos taken since 2 days ago when received but own my own business out of my home and have been inundated with work since then. Also, fyi, I have answered everyone's questions at this thread, really was the first in the whole usa to have this phone and will even p.m. you my imei and sn number's. Please do not call me dishonest though for that was unnecessary and far from true.

I don't know how to post the photos here and have asked for advice on this and no one has given it to me. Please p.m. me and give me your e-mail add and I will send them all to you. Regards, Kevin
[HD2 General] dawgfan:
Negri - how about you come down on the price a little ? ;)

Give us a group special. I am about to place an order overseas for one.

What can you do for us?[/QUOTE]

I second that. That is a bit steep.