[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] AngelDeath:
My 2c

I feel I have to add to this post, because I feel partly maybe by my post in this section of the forum asking for a clean rom might have sparked this, and if so, I want a say.

First I have read every page of this on going DISCUSSION. And this is MY opinion:

To the person that said this is a community to help one another and it hasnt been that way in a while, I agree, I have been on this site since the Motorola Razor first came out and was the rave, so that should tell you I have been here awhile on and off. Somehow my account was gone but I re-signed up. I love this forum due to the wealth of knowledge I have gained, but it has become a tug-fest over the past 2 years, and the simplest questions get shunned as someone said in a post I remember seeing "We all once we're noobs asking questions that would get us flamed by seasoned users" and hence questions dont get answered. Having said that, These forums in my opinion need to get back on track and remember where everyone started from: The Bottom.

As for this idea of a "Lite Version" is a great idea. But Lite to me is a stripped ROM. Leaving bits and pieces isnt lite. I commend the effort, but again its a ROM based on preference of the cooker. This by no means is bashing any cooker, they are all good in their rightful place, but its based on preference of what the cooker likes.

To the person who said he's asking for donations your incorrect, it clearly states:

"I don't ask for any donations for anything you ask here & actually encourage you to donate to the site or the original chef."

Which comes to NRGZ anger which I feel is unjust and MY opinion as to why: The statement above if at all anything clearly shows appreciation for your hard work in making the ROM. If ANYTHING you should be flattered that your ROM is what he picked to make the lite version. You may not like that it has been stripped from the hours of time that you put into it, which would anger any cooker/programmer rightfully so. BUT the question that comes after this is: Which COOKER asked for HTC and Microsoft's permission to alter their hard hours of creating the OS, and the Visual Theme that sits over it? (0)

Yes its a fine line everyone is walking, but understand one thing, Why isnt Microsoft or HTC as we all know monitors these forums and the dozens of other forums (Non-Phone related) that I am on, not jumping the gun and requesting the OP or Mods to remove all these links to leaks, or desisted notices for cooked ROMS? Which they easily can. Its called

INNOVATION

Where do you think 95% of these companies get their ideas from? US. Microsoft or HTC could easily get angry and say you dont like what we put out, then make your own, and how many of you can create a Phone OS from scratch? (0)

One perfect example, a User of this forum (Correct me if I am wrong) created the program Slide to Lock, which would lock the main screen so no accidential screen touches could happen. It was a Lockpad on the screen when it first came out with simple sms, mms, missed call windows. Now HTC uses that idea. Did they ask for permission? Bet not.

To the Cookers: I envy your talents for being able to be creative with your ROMS truly. But not all of us can do what you do. If anything we are at your mercy with being able to change our phones to look different then what the carriers choose to put on them, because we want to be individuals and have the "Best" to show off. And we have you guys to thank for that. But your responses of anger saying:

"If you dont like the ROMS then make your own"

is a bit harsh because if we all could then how would you be appreciated for the work you put into yours?

People saying that they dont want 30 apps they arent going to use is a valid response, because most wont. I know this is a competition in some sense to see who can come up with the best rom and cram as much in as possible, but us the users are caught in the middle. Now I agree that you guys cant make a million roms based on every users request, and I whole heartly agree. I am a Computer Builder, and I know how to manipulate Windows in so many ways I dont think Microsoft knows it can be done, and I am not a programmer. I went so far to do a proof of concept (Which is anyone that knows my handle knows what I did) and a friend of mine who worked at Microsoft HQ told me one more time I would be sought. (Hi Microsoft Gotta Love me :p)

But would it too much to ask any cooker(s), either in collaboration, or as individuals, to make your ROMS based on your liking, but also when you come across a new Build to Cook it as is and let us choose what to put in there? I have tried many ROMS, Arks, NRGZ, Valkryies, and a couple of others, all have their benefits and weaknesses. I went back to the Last EU ROM 1.8.6, because all the ROMS have way too much in them. And last I checked back years ago in this community the goal was to lighten the ROMS so that we had more of the Speed for the phones, and to remove Bloatware. Without sounding ungreatful, whats the difference if we remove ATT bloatware, Sprint Bloatware, Vodafone Bloatware, T-Mobile Bloatware, only for the Cookers to add their own?

Yes they may be useful programs instead of trial junk, but at what point is it too much? At what point do we go beyond what the carriers put on the phones? At what point does creativity stop and practical take over?

I know my post might anger some, it may even get me banished, but I dont know any of you as nor do you know me, but I have learned to always be fair and never take sides. And thats what I feel I have done. But as my long winded post is, its my opinion. Take it or leave it.