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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] breihan:
Hope this helps, man

Hi loserskater, I also had the same problem, but with Fido 3G in Montreal, Canada (I posted about it with no luck in the other Android thread).

The people on Freenode #android-root eventually helped me get this working. They pointed out that the apns-conf.xml file had to have an entry for my 3G provider matching what was configured on the Android APN settings screen.

I'm not sure how the 3G data works in Android, but I also got the device not found messages running the same Linux commands trying to get data working on my phone, so Android must be doing something else to bring up the 3G data connection. In fact, I haven't found a way to use the 3G data connection when using command line apps (wifi works fine if I'm connected with that), but I do have 3G data working fine inside of graphical Android apps.

It turns out that most of the Android 1.6 packages (actually, all of the ones I've tried) have an out of date apns-conf.xml file. You'll want to replace the one in /etc with the one from here: www. karrderized .com/romguide/apns-conf.xml the more complete apns-conf.xml (my account isn't verified so it wouldn't let me post a link-- remove the spaces after you copy/paste). /etc worked for my at&t Tilt but in Freenode #android-root they suggested I place it in /system/etc (I couldn't do that because /system/etc was in the readonly squashfs image and I did this before the NAND flash which I'm now using was available. I ended up compiling the old version of squahfs-tools so that I could run unsquashfs and copy the file in, but when i rebuilt the squashfs image it didn't work, so I just ended up putting the file in /etc and that worked fine).

Afterward, go to configure your APN under Settings | Wireless controls | Mobile networks and create the new APN with settings matching those in the file. After I did that for Fido 3G, data now works automatically (after a short delay for connection) on my Tilt. I also had to enable Data Roaming since my mobile network shows up as Rogers Wireless. Fido assured me that it doesn't cost any money to have that option turned on when I roam (Rogers is their parent company). I'm mentioning this because I'm in Boston right now for work and at&t's network shows up in Android as Cingular Wireless for me so maybe I'd have to have Data roaming on for it to work if I were still an at&t customer... You can probably just try disconnecting and reconnecting your phone from the wireless network at this point to get connected, but powering off and powering back on your kaiser might be necessary.

I hope this works for you. The link I gave is the most complete list of APNs I've been able to find on google. Perhaps we can get some of the Android packagers to update their default apns-conf.xml with this version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
I think you're right, for me data is working with loserskaters image for all the time, i'm on german t-mobile.

By the way, has anyone made some attempts to get dzo's new OpenGL drivers working on our kaisers? I tried with the new kernel, but no go for me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kubino99:
I had the same issue, you can try to start pppd manualy and see if you get data working :

/bin/pppd /dev/smd1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
Ok I think I've narrowed the data issue to being gsm based. It seems t

hat people on cdma networks (tmobile) aren't having any issues with data. Ill take a look at it tonight if I get a chance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
the system folder can store mp3 files but only of certain sizes,i tried copying over a small mp3 for a notification sound and it worked,what sucks is the phone browser wont download ogg files directly so i have to either shut phone off,copy ogg file to sdcard or compress the file to zip/rar,extract then copy to system folder that way
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Cool, so I shouldn't give up hope yet !!:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Interesting; that is cool and sucks at the same time. When I had size issues on my old RAZR phone, I used a mp3 editor, made the file mono and only 30 seconds long; I'm gonna try and see.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] breihan:
Fido is GSM and is working for me. T-Mobile Germany is also GSM and works for JeckyllHavok. Have you tried updating your apns-conf.xml ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knytphal:
I am having a heck of a time getting Android to flash onto my Tilt, oddly enough I didn't think it would be quite this difficult as I usually like to think that I know a little bit about what I'm doing. I've read through all the NAND threads in this section, multiple times, before deciding to try this and haven't seen where anybody has come across the issue I'm seeing.

I've tried the following methods:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4987699&postcount=1

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5485980&postcount=1

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5411616&postcount=1 (method two)

With each screen size NBH file of a panel type 2. What happens is that I enter the bootloader screen and begin the flash from sdcard, push the power button to initiate the flash, then watch the progress bar make its way to 100 percent done. After that, I get the message that it was a successful flash. Doesn't it normally at this point (during a windows mobile flash...) ask you to push the power button to reboot? I don't recall. Either way, it will just sit there forever - I left it on that screen all night long last night and it was the same way when I woke up this morning.

If I do the flash, then pull the battery from the full progress bar screen described above and reboot I get what looks like should be the animated Nexus One image (it's a still shot, though -- the Android system I'm using currently would the Droid ION Donut 1.6 from the above link) overlayed with the initial boot image of the last ROM I flashed (the 21889 WinMo 6.5 from Staxxthedan). It's currently sitting on that screen and I'll leave it there for the time being - I reflashed using the first link I posted.

I don't really need this phone, I guess, but I'm getting tired of Windows Mobile and would really like to go with Android on it. Is there something that I've missed? The sdcard that I'm using is still partitioned from the last time I used Android - that wouldn't mess things up would it?

At this point I'm just stumped.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I don't understand what updating the apns xml would do for my data not working. The Info for Att has not changed and it works fine running from my sdcard doing the 3 file nand install method . Its the non rootfs that is causing the problem in my opinion. I get a lot of errors that files in system/bin do not exist I think there is an issue with the installs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
@knytphal

Keep going, you are doing this correctly.

1. Flash - DONE

2. After it says flashed, pull the battery and lit it sit for 2 minutes (may not be needed but I do and it works). - DONE

3. Put the battery back in and watch the frozen nexus screen for the next 5-10 minutes.

It takes a long time for the 1st flash but you are headed in the correct direction, if not already done.

Also if ting's don't work load a winmo rom on the sdcard and flash again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
This had no effect
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Yes this is normal behaviour for the present Nand flash, pull the battery, I usually leave it out for 30 seconds - 1 minute.

However if you left the battery out overnight in that state it's likely there isn't enough power, I had similar symptoms on one of my kais130's, it seems that in certain cases, there may be enough power to begin the initial boot process, but part way through the kernel shuts down due to lack of power, leaving you with a zombie, the lights are on, but no-one's home.....

At this point I'd consider flashing a light winmo to check the battery status, and consider repartitioning the SD back to one fat32 partition, just to have a level playing field as it were, then go from there.

At this stage it's all experimental and we're all having various interesting issues with our Kaiseroids, and every issue we solve gets us that one step closer to our goal :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
So, here is a new nbh for our kaisers with the new opengl drivers working. Note that this will just work with eclair and not for donut (at least open gl)

In the archieve you'll find images for both panel types and resolutions. Also i included mssmissions afterboot.txt and the scriptsheduler apk, cause you have to change a file permission after every boot (read about that in the eclair thread from plemem in the vogue forum) also i included 3dgallery.apk so that you can try and see if it works.

Have fun

http://rapidshare.com/files/345432577/kasiandroid_nbh_with_opengl.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Which thread is that, I did a search in the one I saw for file permission and didn't find anything that looked right.

thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
No data for me either

didn't work for me either, on porta network in Ecuador...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
try ths one:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=625052
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Ok, I'm either blind or just don't know what I'm looking for... :) What post number has the information on setting permissions?

Thanks !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
For opengl support on boot

install this application Here. It will install an app that when enabled runs scripts on every boot. You can see with the included scripts that it runs the renicer script which will help speed up phone call answering times. As well we can use it to chmod to make hw3d work on boot. Replace the included afterboot script with the one that I've included in this post.

As well I encourage you to use the gallery3d.apk its beautiful. I'll be putting together a new update file tomorrow that included all of this and some more tweaks that I've been able to do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
More on missing data ...

Today I flashed myn new version of his warm donut to my kaiser using the NoMoRootFS Method. I could not get data working.

with the good old haret and 2 ext partitions on sd cards data works.

It made me think that the problems lies with the missing rootfs? Could be some of the kaiser specific files that were automatically detected?

I hope somebody smarter that me can figure this out, myn warm donut was fantastically fast on nand with no rootfs...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Got it started up, now how do i know if the opengl is working?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
thanks sounds cool
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Updated first post (tipps and hints) for experimental open gl
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MiZi666:
how to get wifi working?

i have a calibration and gps file from an older config, i know that these are working.

maybe it is possible to move these files in a androidupdate.tar file (i have unpacked the file already, use eclair 2.1 f.e.), so i can update it via the installer and wifi should work?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
New updates. It seems as though dzo beat me to making new nbh's. check HERE

Doesnt work... nevermind

GPS + Wifi

I haven't tested this yet, but if somebody could try THIS UPDATE I'm hoping it will solve the lack of GPS and wifi.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
i'm tryng new nand method for the warm donut build which consists of just the tar file in the andboot folder and the newer nbh(bright version displaying kaiser android", i flashed,was successful however no installer displayed to choose to store to nand,lots of code after much delay,gave it awhile and it finally shows mounting errors,any hints?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
Are you holding the camera button half way during boot?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
If somebody wouldn't mind, could they send me their wifi config file and the gps file? Don't have the time/opportunity to boot from haret to get them myself.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
that worked for the installer,i made sure both system and data were checked off for nand,selected install system without clearing data since there's no data to clear since it's a fresh install away from a wm flash,went back and forth between code and error mounting data, now it's stuck on more code,last numeric code it displays is r4:00000000
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
Have you tried pushing up/down? I'm not sure if it's the same thing that other's (including myself) have experienced, but the menu gets hidden by lines of code so if you push up or down the menu should come back up. If not try reflashing the nbh, and then when you install select yes to clear data. and then once it's all done and you hit quit, pull the battery when it gets past "V O G U E A N D R O I D" then pop the battery back in and boot up and you should be ok
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dark-Side:
here, my "calibration" file... no gps :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
What's the last thing we should see on the screen before pressing and holding the camera button?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ryomahino:
I press and hold camera button when Penguin picture appears.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
tried that, did the menu popup instantly for you? or did the text scroll for awhile? If so what is the last thing you can read before it opens menu?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
How to enter menu with DZO kaisimg?

Has anybody successfully entered the install menu with DZO latest kaisimg from 5 February?

I have tried several options to enter the menu:volup, voldown, power, camara...

anybody?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] samtruman:
tryng and tryng but...

I'm trying to flash my phone with last nbh from dzo

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D

but i can't succed.

First of all i can't understand if the latest dzo nbh support norootfs installation, anyway after installing the new nbh I put andboot directory with androidinstall.tar inside my sd, i swtich on the phone then press camera but nothing happens, i can't see any menu and system after ten minutes hang on console showing ANDROID.

Can you help me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] samtruman:
I experienced the same thing, pressing camera button don't do nothing....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
i used one of the nbh files from the vogue threads that's on newer posts since there were helpers making them for kaisers and vogues and between eclair builds and others. the one i used was edited for tilts with panel 2 settings which flashed a different splash than prev black splash still screens. these work great if you have camera button half pressed during entire boot,forget what code is displayed before the menu appears,the installer isnt like the installer through the boot code when you hit the left soft key when it was for sd install or partition selection. i made sure data and system were both selected for nand after i cleared data and cache in the menu,took while to display mounted file systems after strange code, i assume it's all on nand storage since that's what i selected,wish there was a way to tell both were sent to nand since it appears i stil have some data being saved to sd card and the tar file still in andboot folder. my method for install was just flashing an nbh while having the androidinstall.tar filem being in that folder on my sd card opposed to the other method consisting of the 3 blank files/roots.img/preferred system file/blank data.img and the nbh, anyone know how to determine if both system and data were stored to nand and not sd card? i didn't seem to find any answer in the bootlog which was found on the andboot folder of my the sd
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
Here's how to get the new nbh to work:

You should have androidinstall.tar in a folder named andboot on your SD

1. Download nbh

2. Flash the nbh

3. When it says complete reset the device.

4. You should see it say something about Android ( not the A N D R O I D part)

-this is where I had difficulty because it would freeze at the Android part

5. Pull the battery

6. Put battery back in and power on device.

7. Hold cam button HALFWAY! (Around where it says Android is where it detects the button press but its ok to hold it the whole time.

8. Install

Sometimes the menu gets hidden by some code, just push up or down to get the menu bak up
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
Try taking out your SD and then turning your phone on. If it boots and you don't have any problems, its on nand.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
i got past that,i was able to get it to boot up to android,i just 3 things to figure out since i'm learning the new method,1) how to check if nand is storing the data/system,2) why do some misc data still get saved and edited to sd card, 3)getting gps and wifi working with those config files that get stored to make those 2 features work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
i got android to load as i mentioed in my last post, i just want to know 3 things, 1) how to check nand is being used for data/storage,2) why are there extra files storing on sd card andboot folder(seems like not everthing is possible for nand),3)getting gps/wifi going since i'm using popular warm donut from vogue thread
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
Ill be working on a possible wifi/gps fix tonight. Once this gets fixed I'm planning on making it posible to automatically install the fix when new systems are installed
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Awesome on gps, wifi !!, is the Android reference for booting the "Welcome to Android Linux" ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I have to slightly disagree with this comment, It depends on the nbh file to determine whether you need it installed or not, at least with me using vilords nbh files it won't boot without sdcard but I do not need it afterwards I don't know about dzo's bootloaders. I haven't tried them yet.

Also loserskater can you tell what panel type vilords nbh files are set to, I have to assume that they are set to 0 which with a vogue this sets it to auto detect but I didn't think that option was working on a kaiser. Also does dzo's nbh files support opengl for eclair?

can you also add a mirror for the opengl files rapidshare is not cooperating --too many users downloading
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
anyone successful with gettin nand method for warm donut to work with data?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
I've been running it all day just fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
my data comes on but wont transmit,i know all i need for warm donut is the tar file in the andboot folder and an nbh,wonder of the nbh i used caused the data issue or possibly the numerous attempts at the menu to cause data to not work,anyone got the correct nbh for the tilt,i prefer the 480 version with panel 2
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] apache141:
I've been working at this for 2 days now and still cant make or recive calls or get data to work. I've tryed all the different builds but still no go. I guess my tilt isnt one of the good ones...lol. Any thoughts or even guesses at this point would be greatful.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
loserskater,

Any luck on the gps/wifi fix?

Still unable to get back into my menu (was able to do it twice, once for install, and for one update...no luck since then, so i have to reflash to winmo, then back to another android..) :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
If you're using the nbh's from dzo's site (massey) you press the cam button halfway, but if you're using the ones from the sourceforge site, I believe you have to push the cam button all the way down.

I've been working on wifi all night and all morning... it seems like it wants to turn on but doesn't... still working on it though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
wow, wish i knew enough to be of some help :(

The trigger is before it gets to the A N D R O I D line, though, correct?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
ya, just hold it as soon as the scrolling text comes up
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
argh, reflashed, getting nowhere, get to a line that has FAT32, LFH....

any other clues?

now i'm sitting at the v o g u u e a n d r o i d screen
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
You should have androidinstall.tar in a folder named andboot on your SD

1. Download nbh

2. Flash the nbh

3. When it says complete reset the device.

4. You should see it say "Welcome to Android Linux"( not the A N D R O I D part) And something about SD Card, then a couple lines and possibly "dschk blah blah" When it gets to that point...

5. Pull the battery

6. Put battery back in and power on device.

7. Hold cam button

a) halfway if using THESE (dzo's massey site)

b) all the way if using THESE (Sourceforge)

(Around where it says Welcome to Android Linux is where it detects the button press but its ok to hold it the whole time.

8. Install

Sometimes the menu gets hidden by some code, just push up or down to get the menu back up

If stuck at other points, just pull the battery and try again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flaviusio:
You don't have to reflash wm,enter bootmode and flash the .nbh file with the menu on power button
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MrPaveL:
Hi,

I've also tried to look on issue with wifi and i'm stuck at the part when Wlan is enabled in Android settings. It successfully loads a module, also text says wlan enabled, but afterwards it turns off.

I've attached dmesg output, if you're interested.

Pavel

for note: i'm using NAND thing with own compiled kernel, but i'm not sure about right wlan.ko module and calibration file.. because it's unable to recreate it from /dev/mtd/... in NAND mode.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] youngalumni:
premature charge on battery

i just upgraded to the substantially more stable beta build of android on my tilt, however the newest issue i am having and really the only issue is that my charge is completing at 71 percent. is this a bug? or am i having issues with my battery/phone