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[HD2 General] Kawaelde:
Some more help please

Well - serviced up with ATT and after several more attempts still unable to update with Dutty's Rom. Tried on two different XP machines both with ActiveSync installed. Still get the time out and recovery mode. I see a Qualcomm driver indication on the PC, how would I go about verifying that I am properly running this routine. Seems it should be not very difficult. Or to save having to walk me through it - give me the location of "AGO's" install docs.. I looked and can't seem to locate his procedures. Again, appreciate the help. Off to work for a few then returning later tonight. Thanks.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5572878&postcount=280

You did flash HSPL first?
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Hi Kevin here, when you get back from work if not too late for you send me a pm and I will walk you through the process like I have with 3 other people in the past week. It is not really that difficult.
[HD2 General] Kawaelde:
Success !

Thank Kevin and Ago... !

Success ! It was the HSPL that I needed to run first then the Dutty Rom loaded... Time now to get to know this cool device. I am excited... when G.F. gets home will do the same for her's.

First thing is to get V.M up and running then on to exploring.

Want to thank you guys for all the help. I began to worry that I made a costly mistake - you guys were patient and now have one of the coolest phones around.

Norm
[HD2 General] MrJiminy:
I want it too

Nimche, how did that transaction go? I plan to buy one tomorrow but will wait for your response.
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hello everyone

hi i am new to this forum. i need help setting up my htc hd2. i just bought the phone from ebay personal digital. i cant connect to the internet with 3g at&t service i saw the big H and 3g at&t on the phone but when i try to open opera browser it say network problem. i can surf the net with wifi but not 3g service..i just hspl the phone... my radio version 2.06.50.04...rom version 1.49.841.1(71528)wwe manila version 1.0.19211622.1..sorry for the long post ...can anyone help thankyou.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Here you go to make it easy on you. Sounds like somehow your internet settings are not correct or possibly you don't have a data plan with AT&T. Just run this cab file on your device, soft reset and everything should work perfectly. Welcome fellow t9193 owner. Kevin
[HD2 General] Kawaelde:
When you have time

Kevin, Again thanks for the past help. Going thru settings perhaps you can answer for me. My radio version is 2.05.51.11 and of course limited in picking up ANY stations. Is there a US version I can install? In the phone identity it shows the T8585 model #. Is this normal? Last unable to Wi-Fi connect. I use a hidden network WEP setup. Never had a problem with other devices.. double checked key and I am inputting correctly - is there something I am missing in settings that you might recommend.

No urgency... if you have time.
[HD2 General] ryuu55:
mine is on the way

hello to all,

I have my T9193 HD2 in the post should be receiving it approx. Tuesday next week. I was curious if anyone here has experienced (or heard of) any hardware screen issues with this T9193 model as reported on some of the T8585 models. Thanks in advanced

-Joey
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Not a problem happy to help. There is technically no US Radio per say for our devices other than the one you still have on your device. T-MO Officially gets this device in the USA as you know sometime in March and there are already 2 radio's out for it but they both, have tried both, are geared towards t-mo's odd 3g frequencies 1700/2100. Since you are now familiar and I hope comfortable with the flashing process I would experiment and try several for depending upon your location and other variables you might find one better than the Stock one. You can find them all in the radio thread in the development section and if you can't find the one you want I have them all even 2 no one knows about.

2. As soon as you do way with the official telstra rom active sync or the wm device center will automatically think your using the uk version of this phone so the model number change is normal.

3. I would first unhide your wep key for the phone it appears is having a hard time finding your network. Let me know if this works for you. Kevin
[HD2 General] ekerbuddyeker:
Q: is the 3G TELSTRA / AT&T version also 3G in Europe?
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
It should be compatible on the 2100 3G band.
[HD2 General] ekerbuddyeker:
so the TELSTRA version is a 3G device on AT&T in the US and in Europe too? Are you sure?
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
The 2100 3G band is known as the IMT band, and it should be the same.

It won't have *the best* coverage because it lacks 900Mhz for Euro (or 1900 for ATT, though by the end of the year, it won't matter since they are converting all to 850.) But it should be quite acceptable.

If you are in Euro, you wouldn't buy this phone because you can get a native phone (T8585) with both European bands.

So, I guess you could say it's the next best thing to a 3G world phone? :)

Think of the iPhone 3G - it's UMTS 850/1900/2100 and 3g-capable around the world. That 1900 band was only added for AT&T.
[HD2 General] ekerbuddyeker:
thanks, I live in the US so want US 3G but I also travel to Europe so want to make sure i have 3G too. From what you are saying, it will have 3G in both places?
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Yes.

However, in your header it says you have TMobile. The T9193 won't get 3G on Tmobile USA. Just want to be sure you are aware in case you are still with them.

You will have to wait until March for the TMoUS version of the HD2 if you want 3G with them.
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hello kevin

thanks for the at&t caps file but how do i install it? i download the file extract it with winrar and then what to do next? i see 2 files wapmed and setup. i am stuck in the middle of nowhere can u help me with step by step thankyou.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Don't extract the cab with WinRAR. Copy the cab file to your phone (intact), and then run it. (Start --> Applications --> File Explorer --> Find where you copied the app and run it.)
[HD2 General] marbler:
T-Mobile version HD2

I was in the HTC Americas website and saw that they have listed the specs on the t-mobile USA version of the HD2. Nice to see that it has twice the ROM/RAM!

More importantly, after reading all of the information on this forum about the exact network requirements for AT&T, I am curious why the upcoming T-mobile version won't work. According to the HTC website, it says the EXACT following:

Technology

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

WCDMA:/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS)/2100 MHz

I have read throughout this post that AT&T uses 850 and 1900 GSM. What am I missing. Is it NOT possible that HTC could release this phone to T-mobile, but have it compatiable with AT&T as well? I'm not technical, so I am really just asking for clarification.

Thanks!
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
The phone itself will work fine, but you won't get the data high speeds available on 3G because of the WCDMA/HSPA difference.

ATT 3G runs on 850 *OR* 1900. TMobile 3G runs on 1700 *AND* 2100.

BTW, we also have the same amount of RAM, you just need to install an OS update ;)
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
yes

yes i have at&t data plan ...i am useing iphone 3g 16 gb. so i try switch sim card from iphone 3g to t9193 but no 3g service on the t9193. i havent mess with the proxy setting because i dont know what to put there i thought everything suppose to be automatic. can someone help? thankyou.
[HD2 General] HushH:
The phone will work on AT&T GSM, but not AT&T 3G. You'll only have EDGE data speeds on AT&T.
[HD2 General] ekerbuddyeker:
will the TMOB version work on 3G in Europe?
[HD2 General] marbler:
T-Mobile HD2 version

Sorry, I knew that is would work on AT&T. I meant to specify that I am wondering why it won't work on AT&T 3G when people on this post continue to refer to the need for it to have 850 GSM and 1900. Obviously, there is much more to it than that, since those bands are both listed under the GSM for the upcoming US T-Mobile version on the HTC website.

I looked up the Tilt2 on their website and it lists the following:

GSM/GPRS/Edge: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

HSDPA/UMTS: 850/1900/2100 MHz

So is the big difference the AT&T HSDPA/UMTS vs T-Mobile WCDMA/HSPA, because the GSM quad bands seem to read the same?

Also, can someone answer my last question. Is it NOT possible for HTC to release a phone that will work for both T-Mobile AND AT&T. Is that technologically incompatible?

Thanks.
[HD2 General] br4nd0nh347:
Well there is the Australian HTC HD2 (Telstra) that uses

HSDPA/UMTS: 850/2100 MHz

so it is possible.
[HD2 General] HushH:
GSM and 3G are different protocols. So just because they have 850 and 1900 bands listed for GSM on the upcoming T-Mo version, that does not mean that it will work on those same bands for 3G.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Ok, now I understand the the fix is very simple and you will have 3g, HSDPA data on your t9193. Your still on the iphone 3g data plan, completely different than for this phone, call at&t c.s.and change data plans and then I can GUARANTEE ALL WILL WORK PERFECTLY FOR YOUR INTERNET. KEVIN
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I beg to differ about the data plans. I have friends that have the iphone that switch sims all the time with other phones. Some have iphone plans, some have smartphone plans, and some have data plans for non smartphones. They are all the same just priced differently. There is no difference in the iphone plan and smartphone plan.

gogovn2000 has not mentioned if he installed that cab file or not yet. I saw where he tried to extract it (wrong). gogovn2000 did you copy it to your memory card and run it from file explorer on your phone? Reboot your phone and try and connect again?
[HD2 General] dynamo84ll:
i will be in the same situation gogovn2000 is in. My T9193 will be here monday(from personal digital)!! I was told it would be as simple as swapping sims from my iphone to the hd2.

1) Am i wrong?

2) is it mandatory to HSPL to get the phone running on att&t 850mhz 3g network?

3) is HSPL mandatory to install the cab file?

Thanks
[HD2 General] Gellenole:
I just went through 35 pages and i'm still quite confused, but I just purchased the phone from personal Digital au. I'm hoping it's worth it. and i'm going to immediately flash it when I get it.
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hi there

yes i just did installed the cab file to the memory card and run from file explorer and reboot ..but it doesnt connect from 3g at&t service. i try to open opera it say error network problem. do i have to put something in the http proxy setting box? or just leave it as default? thankyou
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I am not sure what the cab file sets up. I set my phone up by myself.

Name of connection: My ISP

select a modem: CellularLine (GPRS)

Access point name: wap.cingular

Thats all you really need. Using my unbranded rom tried to set up a username and password too. But they are actually not needed. You could try to fill them in if the above doesnt work. But these really shouldnt be needed.

username:WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM

password:CINGULAR1 (however when I do auto it shows more digits)

Opera will not function without this hack when using the telstra rom.

1. Launch Opera Browser

2. In the address bar type "Opera:CONFIG" hit enter or select Preferences Editor from the list

3. Click on Proxy and it should open up a list of options

4. Scroll down till you find HTTP Server and HTTPS server

If there are any IP addresses just delete them and scroll down and make sure you save it.

None of the opera bookmarks will work. Maybe you are getting good data and it is just opera that is blocking you. Try Internet Explorer and see if it connects. Or youtube.

Also what letter do you see at top of screen? G, E, 3G, or H

Let me know if this works. You will also have to set up your mms/sms too.

Oh and proxy isnt needed. I suggest not using it. Things actually downloaded through the cingular proxy can be changed. My last phone would download backgrounds. 240x400 on the site and 230x383 after it was downloaded through proxy.
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hi agoattmer

hello agoattmer i follow your instruction and it works.opera or internet explorer and youtube works very fast. thankyou man.my radio version is 2.06.50.04 and my rom verion is 1.49.841.1 (71528) wwe. i want to upgrade to rom version 1.66 but i dont know how to do it...can u give me instruction thankyou
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hi agoattmer

and how to setup sms/mms/email..thanks
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
If you want to upgrade you will have to go a few pages back. I put up a little tutorial.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5572878&postcount=280

lots of info in that post.

If you do flash your phone it will automatically set up your network connection and mms for you. But before you do flash here is how to set it up.

1. HTC Messaging

2. Menu -> Settings -> Options

3. Menu -> MMS Server

4. + New

5.- Server name: I used "AT&T MMS"

- IP Address: 66.209.11.32

- Port Number: 80

- Server address: http//mmsc.cingular.com

- Connect via: I used My ISP which was setup earlier.

- Send Limit: 600KB

- WAP Version: WAP 2.0

Looking at your numbers. Seems telstra already upgraded the radio. Original version is 2.05.51.11. Rom version is the same. Interesting.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Telstra has not upgraded or I think you meant HTC the radio as of yet which is what we all are hoping for to stabilize our oh so frustrating signal and reception jumping all over the place. The 2.06 radio he has on his device is the first t-mo usa radio posted on the radio thread and has been out for sometime. Kevin
[HD2 General] Fallen Spartan:
ok, I've read through parts of this thread and done a bit of spring cleaning

I will not tolerate anyone being harsh or rude towards other users. This is not acceptable. Further comments like this will result in a ban. End of story!!!

Rick
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
gogovn2000, did you in fact say your radio is 2.06.50.04? Did you get this info off of your phone? If you did , did you update your phone to this radio previously or did it come pre-installed on your phone?
[HD2 General] Kawaelde:
Advice helped

Kevin,

Update.. Wi-fi connected after making the network visible. Thanks for the tip!

Radio - looked at all the options http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611787 do you have a recommendation? I don't know enough to randomly just start flashing radio ROM's. Phone has been working great these past couple of days otherwise as I learn more on how to use it.

2 cents - keep the thread open... wouldn't have pulled the trigger on getting 2 of these phones without having found this thread, Kevin's help and all the information by others it has provided to ensure that it would have worked.

Off for a weekend of snowmobiling R&R - will check on any advice on the Radio issue upon Monday's return.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I can give you my 2 cents on the radios. I really didnt notice a difference between them. You will read on this forum that one gets better connection and better battery life than another. Next guy will come along and say the opposite.

I didnt notice much of a difference myself. But I do know and it may be a coincidence. But everytime I go to delete a group of text messages or emails from my phone, my data connection locks up and I have to do a soft reset, or airplane mode on and off to get it back. Doesnt happen when I delete 1 or 2. But if I try to delete like 20.

Just not sure if my issues are related to the radio swapping.
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
help

last night i try to upgrade to this new Miri HD2 WM6.5 (21891) ROM :: V 4.0 after i flash it my phone freeze with a white screen and htc logo. i hard reset it still the same white screen i remove the battery power on it still the same can anyone help? i think the phone is broken...thankyou
[HD2 General] micaman:
Did you update the radio to 2.07.50.27 as it is listed as a requirement. You might want to post your question in Miri's rom thread.
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hi

now my phone is freeze with the htc white screen logo.how to update to 2.07.50.27? i cant do anything i try factory restore to default nothing works.even i try to sycn the phone with the pc it wont connect. i post my message on miri rom thread but no one help me.can anyone help.thankyou
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
I can walk you through this gogo and it appears to me you might not have hspled your phone which is why it is now bricked, aka unusable. Did you hspl you device before flashing? If no you need to do this fist or the new rom will not be accepted by the device.

However, since your phone is now bricked you first need to download from htcpedia the telstra stock rom and put this back on your device. You don't need to hspl for that. The phone will accept it.

Next go to the rom development section and flash BEPE'S HSPL Utility. It will be under a thread named "HOW TO FLASH EVERYTHING" by following the procedure and then finally you can flash Miri's rom. pm me if you help any more help. thx, kevin
[HD2 General] Alex Castillo:
Radio needs to be updated as well?

Hello,

Kevin, a lot of us (including myself) appreciate your help... is just we don't like to see anyone (including people we appreciate) being rude with other people... So, just don't be harsh with your answers... if you feel a question is not worth your time (and you have the right to think so) just, don't answer... don't get yourself into a useless fight. Also, dont answer any agressive post... that is never wise.

Kevin, and Ago, I have another question for you: my HD2 is working great and stealing a lot of 'wow!'s from my friends... but I know this device has more internal memory than the original one... does it need any other updates to fully use the extra memory? what about the radio upgrade some people is talking about?

Can you share any other source of information (besides htcpedia) or good software for this wonderful cell phone?

Thanks a lot, to all the people in this thread.

Respectfully,

Alex
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Hi Alex, Point taken. Yes, to enable the hidden ram and rom like the t-mo upcoming version you need to flash the latest t-mo radio in the radio thread 2.07.50.27.2 and there you have it. As for software recommendations, I can recommend literally hundreds for the windows mobile platform but I don't know exactly what your looking for on your device. The biggest source for this is handango.com Thanks, Kevin
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Here is the direct link to the Telstra AUD ROM you first need to flash to get your device back for in layman's terms it is bricked, aka unusable until you do this. Hope I was of help to you. Kevin http://htcpedia.com/official_wm_rom_htc_hd_leo_telstra_english_version/soft/htc-leo-rom.html

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[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
gogovn2000 if you cant flash the original telstra rom using your pc do it this way.

Use winrar and extract the RUU_signed.nbh file from the signed telstra rom exe. Rename it to leoimg.nbh. Take a memory card and format it with your pc to fat32. Copy the leoimg.nbh file to the card. Put it in your phone. Hold the volume down button while pressing the reset.

This will reflash the telstra rom and remove the hspl. You will then have to install hspl before flashing another rom.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
alex I dont believe you can just flash the radio and get the extra memory. It doesnt work that way. It requires a certain rom also.

I flashed the different radios on my phone. I really didnt notice a difference between connections or battery life. Results are mixxed. All I can say is after flashing the radios whenever I delete groups of emails or text messages mty internet connection freezes. I have to reset the phone or turn airplane mode on and of to get it back.

I didnt have this issue before I started flashing different radios. I have returned the correct radio for this rom and it still has corrected itself. Not sure if the radio flashing and the data connection freezing are related but they started at the same time. Too much on my phone to do a hard reset at the moment.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
@ago,

Your missing the point here and I say this respectfully. His phone is bricked because in all likelihood he never flashed the hspl to begin with as he should have. This is why is phone is bricked. I am about 99% certain of this. We won't know for sure though until he replies.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
But at this point with his phone being bricked he wont be able to connect with activesync to be able to reflash a working rom. That is why I suggest to flash from the memory card. Doesnt matter if he did flash the hspl first or not. If he did this will remove it. If he didnt this will get his phone hopefully going again.
[HD2 General] mrmomoman:
+1

The point is that it really doesn't matter what happened. Agoattamer was making the point that it did happen and is just trying to get the phone back to square one. Then he can do it all over again and get it to take. That's all.
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hello everyone when i try to extract the RUU_signed.nbh file to my desktop why it comes out a bunch of different separate files?....or do i just rename the RUU_signed.nbh file to leoimg.nbh itself and then drag it to the sdcard.
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hi

hi Agoattamer i just follow your instruction and hold the volum button down and press reset it comes out a tri colors screen. i see this pb81110---hx-bc spl-1.42.hspl-------xe 0x5 cotullaHSPL-----0X30.is that mean my phone cant flash back to the original rom?or i did i miss something? thanks
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Dude, at some point you had to start reading and making connections on your own.

There are entire threads designed to walk through this process for someone who is completely new to Windows Mobile. There are even *videos* in those threads. It's a piece of cake.

Take a look, read, watch, think, try out, then ask more questions.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=621930 - Post#1, Item #3: how to flash via sd card.

Alternatively:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609477 - Post #1, Item #3b: Flashing via MicroSD card.
[HD2 General] richsark:
Hi, Is there a way I can load the Telstra ROM back into my HD2?

I bought mine while on busniess in Sydney a few days ago. I am back in the states and to my disbelief no 3G on T-mobile.

I found a CAB that removes the 3 apps on the home screen so I wanted to Play around with the original Telstra ROM.

I have since HSPL and installed RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe

Thanks
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
I believe the stock ROM is available on HTCpedia.com

Apps, ROMs, Leo, couple pages down the line.
[HD2 General] Fallen Spartan:
ok, I've done a bit of spring cleaning. I've also edited my previous post.

Rick
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Yes, I posted the direct link for people a few pages back. Sadly, not sure why you did not know this, this device will never work on t-mo 3g no matter what you do only 3g on at&t's 850 3g band. Kevin
[HD2 General] |oLo|:
3G or not to be...that is the question

I've been wondering if I have 3G or not. I went to the area where I SHOULD have had a strong 3G connection but recieved nothing. Speed test showed 130kbit/sec (Edge)

I checked the band settings and it's showing this:

Auto

GSM (900+1800)+UMTS (2100+(900)

GSM(1900+850)

UMTS(2100+900)

Auto is currently checked

According to this i'm in a 1900MHz area (South Carolina). I guess i'm screwed for now :(

I'll have to wait till AT&T goes 850MHz nation wide.

I wasn't going to post this but it may help someone else out.

Man this device is AWESOME!
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Hi olo, remember me, I would not say your screwed just unlucky to be in a 1900 only 3g area yet as mentioned many times by me and others hopefully sooner rather than later you will get 3g running on your device. How are you liking dutty's rom being somewhat new to all of this? Kevin