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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Yes, I think that this is the default behavior of WM6.1. Had this same problem on older devices.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
I am tempted to flash this ROM, but I have been getting used to the Energy ROMs... Hmm... Good idea for a ROM though, those hybrids just were not stable at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Sure, have fun with Energy roms.

I know this rom won't target a big group of users. It's a compromise, but I personally enjoy it much.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nileshvedi:
WM6.1+Sense2.1 Hybrid

Dear Jackos,

I know you mentioned that you will not be lending any support for any hybrid ROMs, and I am not asking for any but just to mention and if there is any other issue besides the one below is it safe to use this ROM on the TP2:

I am back to your WM 6.1 Hybrid Sense 2.1 v6, I find it pretty stable apart from the occasional Left Soft Key issue and the Flip Clock getting stuck issue that is just about it.

I dont know but I am kind of addicted to the Sense Interface now....

Thanks a lot for the Great ROM - Still the Best for Me and still my Favorite.

Regards,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
oldschool

again i want to thank u for that great peace of rom.

i did some smal changes to fit my needs:

-nice taskbar

-bg4all with clear clock

-topaz notification manager

-and smal things like autolock,xdashutdown etc.

please share your mods , cause 6.1 mods are hard to find these days.

i would like to see more finetuning .

question: how to change internettab, like showing more programms and shortcuts?

is there a .xml to modify?

here some screens of this great rom:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
You need to overwrite a manila file. It's possible for 100%, I saw such a mod.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
1.0a is up. Minor bugfix, package changes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
@Aber82, would you mind showing us the links to the mods you used? For example I tested 3 or 4 different notification enhancements and none worked or it caused problems with stability. Your seems to work OK.

Perhaps @Jackos would agree to put the links to the tested mods in first posts so that anybody could benefit from them.

For instance I used the following taskbar icons in Jackos Hybrid SE and they worked like a charm, so I am sure they should work in OldShool as well:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=522080
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
OK, I'll find a place for links to mods if you want.

Actually, my tweak to get the latest Notification Enhancement to work breaks some menus... So maybe he did same...

Aber82, plz go to Settings -> QuickGPS and tell me if it's working (while you have the topaz notifications working).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
i think i am not able to find the links again so fast but i will post the cabs:

i use the same taskbar.

the notificationthing was modified from cookie and cab`ed by an other user.

i hope it is stable.

bg4all i found here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=572166&highlight=tf3d

and autolock i use is atached too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Looks like the Notification manager dlls files have been hex-edited.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
just testetd quick gps and was able to download the sattelitepositions right now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
The cab doesn't to this trick like i did, so there is no reason the items would be messed up :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
OK, I've found the LockDevice, which I still use and it works in every rom taking very small amount of RAM and almost none of the CPU:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=542482
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HRQ.SLV:
Smaller "HTC Menus"

Good idea to share mods! ;)

Here's one:

This mod will make your "HTC Menus" smaller.

The complete thread you can find it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=508919

It's works good with this ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
is there a working actionscreen for 6.1?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
This one works for me:

Smabergs actionscreen - new feature to powerbutton on top of phone

Only in portrait though...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
thank you. i will try it.

so :

modifying the internettab: i am searching for the "Application Data\Manila\InternetPortal-en-us.xml"

in this xml we can put programs like twitter and facebook and links into the internettab, but i cant find it in this release.

somebody got such an xml? perhaps one out of an nrg rom to modify?

and where to put it exactly?

its late, i will try further tomorrow.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
aber82 did get the Notification Manager 2.0 to work and I'm trying the 3.5 ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] trusa1:
Search for the 27c65cbd_manila file.

If you want to load internet tab faster, convert all icons in "ImagePath" to qtc image format.

If you have disabled PushInternet and want to remove "Add a new push page" read this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=652598
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
please control:

settings/device informatin/phone identity

is not working. or only for me?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sichr:
not working for me either...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
many many thanks for all help with the internet tab.

after pointing to the right manilafile i got a nice look.

i used some of diniks anastasia icons.

but i got a new question: how to get ringtones and notification modified?

i have some sounds put in the windows directory, the rings directory and in other directories and testet but none of my sounds are showing up in ringtones setup.

i think i am doing it the wrong way, but what is the right one?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
I tested this on earlier versions of Hybrid:

The sounds you want to use as a call ringtone can be stored in any format (mp3, wav, wma) and I tested \Windows\Rings (probably \My Documents\My Ringtones also work) as an appropriate location.

However an SMS sound for instance you have to put in \Windows\ directory and they must be a mono PCM wav files to be recognized by WinMo.

The Alarm sounds must also be in \Windows directory and as far as I can remember only wav/wma file formats.

That is annoying and took me several hours to discover and to find an appropriate format. However I don't understand why do you have problems with a standard ringtone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
hmmm,

i tryed mp3 and wma in nearly every folder.

soft resetted many times .

one thing i notice: i got 2 videos on sd-card in my documents and these two files i can chose as ringtone :/ thats crazy.

i must have done something bad whyle configuring.

how to renew the ringtonelibary?

for now i will try a trick and use the ringtone names that are already in use ... perhaps...

EDIT : STOP STOP STOP

its working!

my fault: i had set all ringtonefolders to "hide" to be not recognized by htc musiclibary.

so all ringtone were set to "hide" too.

changing back was the trick.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
But I have never noticed that HTC Music checks the data in \Windows\ folder. It only scans the SD card and seem to look at My Device\My Documents\ but I have some mp3s in the \Windows\Rings and they are never shown in the HCT Music tab library (Of course Windows Media checks everywhere and that's why I hate it so much).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
yes.

i had a folder with a variaty of tones on the sd card and wanted them not to be heared between my music :D

so i had set it so hide and forgot about that.

so now: back on topic , to this great rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
So, guys, if you want a special post with all mods for this rom posted, start sending me PMs with links and a short description what those mods do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gunstar_Hero:
Any chance an AT&T keyboard config with full support (Every button) could be cooked in? I guess you would just pull the files off a AT&T rom, probably just find them. Seems like every keyboard remapping cab leaves at least one button not working.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I don't have an AT&T device, so I guess no.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gunstar_Hero:
Understandable. I'm sure someone else with an AT&T TP2 could help with this, this rom looks great. It's exactly what I wanted out of this phone. Out of my opinion, you hit it dead on man. Props to you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mahagon Coral:
Is it somehow possible to make the file explorer more finger friendly by increasing the distance between the file names and increasing their size + widening the scroll bar? just curious whether that's possible ... file explorer is almost not usable :-/

also, the icons inside htc's notification enhancement DO seem to be a bit small ... is this what's being worked on right now?

switched to a manila 2.5 rom because of windows mobile 6.5.5 ... but I must admit that this rom here is as fast as hell! great work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
question:

how to get favorites(bookmarks) on the internettab left soft button?

the right button points me only to a black opera side.

question 2 :

somebody testetd this rom with a newer radio? perhaps the *.77?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
It should work. Didn't tested it.

Just try it, you won't brick anything.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
i will test it these days, but i know that the rillfone.dll is different, istn`t it?

thought that somebody did some experimenting.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
its called "rilgsm.dll" ;D

It's from 3.xx.xx.xx radio, but it's reported to work with 4.xx.xx.xx radios.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
can u please link to the no curtain cab?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] walter79:
works well with 4.49.25.77
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
.77

agreed the .77 radio works very well boosted my signal by a large amount here in orlando even compaired to other roms when using .77.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
How is the batery life on 4.xx.xx.77?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
Its better for me, much stronger signal to boot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nileshvedi:
Here you Go...

Hey, posting the curtain removers (both top & bottom) Works for both Jackos WM6.1 Oldschool TF3D 2.1 & Jackos WM6.1 Sense 2.1 Hybrid here in case you wanna use.

Regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
thanks for the (no)curtains :D

next question:

i take a photo but cannot press the envelope to send it via mail etc.

only me, or its a bug?

sending a photo from the album is not a problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Chovus:
Nice ROM...still testing. I will post my results

THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
Works fine for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Chovus:
BUG or what?

BUG or what?

When I click START-Settings-All settings-Device Information

..the two "buttons" are not working (when clikc, nothing is happening):

"Phone Indentity" and "About"

...is that normal? or maybe a bug?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I guess you should read the bugs section at third post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Chovus:
Sorry, my mistake...I was thinking that release is bug fixed (last edit of your first post was 2 days ago...so just my wrong guessing, thinking that new version is uploaded).

Thanks for nice ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shawndh:
Has anyone gotten the ringtone issue fixed on any of the hybrid ROMs? I think I had the 1.0d.7 version and I loved it! The only issue I had with it was the ringer not ringing sometimes. If I could get that fixed, I'd keep this ROM.

I'm currently using an Energy ROM and I'm just not happy with it. Choppy video, slow, and unresponsive. I miss the responsiveness and simplicity of 6.1 but I like the location based weather. I'm torn. :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nileshvedi:
Hi, I am using the WM6.1 Hybrid Sense 2.1 from @Jackos, I have not encountered any bugs or problems with the ringtone, I know you are talking about the Hyrid Sense 2.5, I would love to have that too, but the ringtone issue is just too hard to make me stick with it. But the Sense 2.1 hybrid works perfect for me, I think you should try it too if you are not too keen on Sense 2.5 or have not tried it as yet. The Frozen Flip Clock Issue is very rare. I haven't had that in the last 4-5 days now. Loving it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mionica:
for some strange reason, it does indeed seem boost the "signal strength" (at least the one displayed). Note jackos, we're talking the .77 radio, not the .17. It's listed as "Telstra Australia" on the radios thread.

I'm in Romania, on Cosmote (which only recently launched a 3G network), and at home with the new radio I get max signal (used to be half). Either this radio works like a charm, or they just planted a new base station close to where I live, at pretty much the same time I had changed radios :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Ach, I mistyped :D Of course I where thinking about the .77 radio from Telstra.

Great that the new radios from HTC/Telstra work fine with the old rilgsm. Maybe I should give a try too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shawndh:
Where can I download this? I just want the location based weather. The rest I can do without.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
v1.0b is up.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Sweet! Going to give this ROM a try. I love bug free ROM's with tons of RAM! Sense 2.5 ROM's are sweet but the RAM gets eaten up so fast and there's usually always a bug here and there. Thanks Jacko!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mistm:
Could anyone answer me few questions about this rom?

1) When you add a new appointment is it touch friendly or its classic add appointment dialog from windows?

2) is it possible to set up Opera Mobile 10 (or Opera 5 Mini) as a default browser? So when you click on the link in recieved mail it opens up that browser.

3) what lockscreen is there? Could anyone provide a screenshot?

4) when you start "Phone" - i mean the HTC made phone application where you can dial someone .... is there smooth scrolling through contacts? I mean if it doesnt hop one by one.

Thank you very much!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
3: the lockscreen is your hometab . to unlock press "unlock - unlock"

screen posted...

in my opinion the best lockscreen and very fast .

4: its smooth enough in my opinion but hopping a little bit from contact to contact while scrolling
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Not sure what's going on but I installed the latest version of Jacko's ROM and I'm not getting any kind of phone service. I Task29'd, installed the .77 radio and hard reset after installation. I even ran the connection setup and still nothing. I'm suppose to be connected through T-Mobile. What gives?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
xD

You need to turn on the phone. Start -> Programs -> Comm Manager -> Click on the Phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Well that was simple. Why is phone disabled from the start?

The start button takes me to the programs menu instead of dropping down the program list. Any ideas Jacko?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
There is a simply cab/regedit for this.

The phone is off at boot, because I don't want to become all my smses before I setup my phone with ActiveSync so I have all contacts and I know who send me this msg. And if I flash a lot of during the day I would lost all my smses.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Can you tell me the keyword to use to find the cab file Jacko? Can you provide a direct link even? I appreciate the help Jacko.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Let's wait for someone to post it. I'm sure that others want back the WM start menu too. I'm really busy right now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
No problem. Understandable. Thanks again.

Does anyone with a T-Mobile TP2 know how to change the home hard key to point to the Today screen? Also, how do I get the start button to drop down the programs instead of directing me to the program page?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
I want to use Jacko's latest ROM so bad but I REALLY need to know how to get the start button to drop down the programs menu. I also need my home hard key to navigate to the Today screen instead of the programs page..... =(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
old startmenue, try this:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu\EnableManilaStartMenu =dword:0

homekey always brings todaytab.

you mean windowsbutton? then its done now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Thank you! Now when I click on the start button, the drop down menu appears! Thanks again!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zhukemotor:
first letter search in pinyin

hi, i am a chinese. thus, i type chinese using ur rom. I was so glad to find that your rom supports chinese reading and even I can search chinese name using first letter search in CHINESE PINYIN. is there a software or patch for that function because other roms all dont have this function. thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Hi guys, here is a special bonus for Hybrid users:

Jackos Hybrid ROM SE v3.0

Upgraded version, youtube works, kinda anything works... Ringtone should be finally permanently fixed for now. I have done some research and I found out that I missed something important so the ringtones really could be corrupted. PP is high at 18MB.

Done a lot of minor changes, minor bugfix. The rom should be bug-free.

The one issue I got is the battery drain. About 2x more in standby comparing to the Oldschool rom. If you can live with this - enjoy the rom. The battery consuming is same as in any Hybrid roms. It's because the radio version mismatch (needed for localization).

Personally I'm back to the Oldschool as I drive today to Warsaw and I need a really battery friendly rom.

Have a nice day.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Remember that I haven't enough time to test the SE ROM, so it's your job.

However the Oldchool rom is bug-free and the v1.0b may be considered as a final version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
oh man ...

this weekend i did not want to flash!

*grrr*

now i have to test :D

about the high energy needs... which radio you tryed already? which is recommendet ?

your hybrid was nearly what i need , so i will report again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
They are recommended radios included in the package.

Sorry, I must go right now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Jacko I'm loving your latest version of WM 6.1 TF3D 2.1! It's very fast, stable and I have a bunch of available RAM.

Question, how come there is no programs tab? When I enable to Start drop down menu and change my Home hard key button to point to the Today screen, there is no way I can get to the programs tab again. The T-Mobile stock WM 6.1 TF3D ROM had a programs tab and that is why I'm curious as to why your version does not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
u can activate it in registry
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Sweet! You have been a lot of help! Thanks again!

Jacko, awesome ROM you have created! Thanks a billion!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
Running the new hybird its pretty good battery wise seems way better to me than the old school rom. Which is weird since you experience the opposite. Anyway great work as always.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Could you please check your current values in the following registry keys?:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
EnableStartMenu
Manila://programs.page.hidden

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu]
EnableManilaStartMenu

These 3 keys have something to do with Programs Tab vs Start Menu. But I don't currently have the Oldschool ROM installed so I can't remember what should be set in these. If you post your values perhaps then I'll remember... ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
any chance to activate the manila startpage in the hybrid3.0?

i testet some registry values, with no effect.

once the windows startmenue was smaller and once kompletly gone.

other thing:

in the hybrid you can also activate the twitter etc. tab within the registry .
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
What do you mean by manila startpage?

If you mean the programs tab it is gone in Sense 2.5, so you won't achieve it. It is only a feature of TF3D and Sense 2.1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
haha, yes!

i forgot about that.

about the energy:

please share your facts about radiocombinations and batterie lifetime.

the oldschoolrom was the best rom i tested so far and i used the recommended radio. (...*.30)

with hybrid 3 i am using *.77 right now and will report my findings.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
I enabled the programs tab but it doesn't work correctly. I have to click on the task manager twice before the programs tab works properly. Hmmm....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Strange... I have never had such issue.

I'm afraid you'll have to wait until @Jackos returns. He has done the changes in the registry, so perhaps he will know how to undo them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Do you have the programs tab enabled? Does it work properly? I have it enabled but it does not scroll properly and I can't add or click on any shortcut unless I press the task manager on and off. Really weird. I task29'd, installed the correct radio and even hard reset after installation.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
The problem is that I don't have the Oldschool ROM installed. I am far away from home and I check my e-mails via my Rhodium. I only remember the registry keys I mentioned above but they also come from Hybrid v6 (WM6.1 + Sense 2.1). That's why I can't help you now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
Well my Energy/GTX rom just crashed on me so I will be trying this one for a while. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kaaniz:
ok.... i have been desperately trying to flash this rom and i cant just get further than the boot screen... :(

i am not THAT new to flashing.. been flashing a lot of roms lately and i am just dying to have this one.. i tried the new SE one too.. same result..

i did the task29 thingy.. as well as revert back to the original shipped 6.1 and then tried the flash.. same result!!

HELP!!??