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[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
I felt the need to come into this thread to let everyone whose feelings I hurt know, that I would like to publicly apologize for my actions a few weeks ago.

I still have the Eris, and it sucks that this thing isn't rooted yet. However it's not a big deal anymore to me, because I'm getting the Droid on Tuesday.

Once again, I'm sorry and good luck with root, devs.. I'll still have my Eris handy I think, so if anyone needs me to do anything to it, I don't care if it gets bricked.

Now, if someone could direct me to the Moto Droid section...I'll gladly be out of your hair.

Now that I think about it, I probably am going to miss Sense.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hallstevenson:
How will having root help ? Adobe could check the "CPU ID" or the phone's "name" and refuse to install. I suppose with root you could change the phone's name to something that will allow it but I doubt you can chance the CPUID.
[Droid Eris Android Development] SellswordShev:
I doubt they hard-coded that into the phone, I think it will just be firmware based (i.e. they will only code it for 2.1). But yeah root won't immediately help with that either, unless we are able to figure out how to push a custom rom quickly.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ffej5647:
The best thing is that we don't have to wait for root to update to 2.1 because we can always roll back and we also have a dev on the inside working on a 2.1 exploit anyways! So I am going to be the one to update to 2.1 immediately!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
I'm sorry that the forums is going at snail speed lately.

I'll promise to try to make it up to you guys when I have stuff that I can tell you :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] jamezelle:
Nothing we can't edit in the build.prop ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] chizzy58:
Takes a strong man.
[Droid Eris Android Development] laxattack:
So i guess the thread died
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
Not dead, Just kinda slowed down.

Theres not much to report on right now.

Be patient, Good things will happen in the future to those who wait :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] t2noob:
waiting is boring to say the least...Been waiting since november..while others only had to wait a week for their phone to get rooted..I wish I was some good at rooting..

Thats why I give my total appreciation to the DEVS.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
We've mostly moved to IRC to find out how we want to do this.

Server is irc.thefuzz4.net, channel #roottheeris. Feel free to join in!
[Droid Eris Android Development] NKT:
Well, this just wasn't nice...

*** You are permanently banned from irc.thefuzz4.net (blocked. Sorry!)
[Droid Eris Android Development] tdavis42:
I knew this section would die once they decided to "go somewhere else" and try to figure out how to root the Eris.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
acidbath is just away for a bit, just hold tight I'm sure everyone is takin a break from the forum til he comes back too. Or until they get an email saying that the thread was updated 500 times in the last day signaling that root has indeed come.
[Droid Eris Android Development] thefuzz4:
Hey we blocked the mibbit client due to security reasons but I can assure you that no one other than mippit is on the ban list. Thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hallstevenson:
Acidbath is the "spokesperson", not a developer. He also stated that if the develops break through, one of them would post info. They aren't going to wait Cory him to return.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
I am actually happy acidbath is gone for a while, he seems to have over-run the entire development process and appears to newcomers as the "man". I am also against the moving away from this for the exact reason that has happen. Smaller developers like myself have no way to contribute and nowhere to know 100% what was tried. The bounty also needs to go. half the contributers will probally never pay because of how long it has been.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
Its not really that, we just dont have much to report on, and anyways none of the devs really posted here, it was just acid writing updates.

Most of the devs barely post here, even before the chatroom opened.

If you feel you have something to contribute, just join the IRC channel.

We are all patiently waiting.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
We have the mibbit client blocked for security reasons. Feel free to download a native client and use it though. Sorry!

@FireSokar: If I could +rep you for that last post, I would :D Agreed, totally. And I'm on the "Dev Team".
[Droid Eris Android Development] hallstevenson:
By the way, where is this "somewhere else" that they've went to? The developers have had a private forum all along.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
No they havent development started on this site.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
Yeah they were posting in the Tattoo forums while working with those guys on the exploit that got the Tattoo root but only because it was easier for our devs to communicate with them that way. I'm guessing since they weren't on the Eris team at the time.

Also the Tattoo guys didn't seem to have people flaming/losing hope in their root threads every time one was started like we do here.

The Eris Dev Team did what was needed for them to get the job done at the time. They've already helped get root on one phone and they're STILL willing to do it for us at no cost.

As for the bounty. It's great that it's there, for everyone said that they would donate thanks! However, the length of time that it takes or the reason of motivation to provide root should not come in to play here and cause you to pull back your donation. You said you'd donate to the person/group who gets root (and most of our devs don't want the bounty anyway) even if they stumbled into this thread for 1 minute and figured out how to root the phone.

On that note, and long overdue, I'll be giving whoever gets root $13 even if they are some greedy bastards! :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
I think people are just interested to see what's going on, but at the same time, the developer team is afraid if they do have too many people in there, then the same sort of stuff that we had before will start popping up. Only major issue is that any developer that wanted to contribute would have to jump through hoops to join the dev team or do it by themselves with the help of some known exploits that don't work.

And if you really want to get professional, you should ditch the whole spokesperson idea, no offense Acidbath, and put this on Sourceforge or something. And each time you hit or miss, just have someone go type it in or copy and paste the IRC conversation into the little Bug Reports field on sourceforge. You don't have to revise it, or make it look easy to read, or make it rhyme, or turn it into a song. The format is really not important, it's just getting the message across as fast and as efficiently as possible. That way, anyone can come in and see everything you do, and even contribute their own tried exploit. The whole website was an idea, but I guess that kind of fizzled out as I have not seen any news on any sort of dev team website. And to be perfectly honest, the giant Droid Eris Dev Team banners are a little tacky, kind of makes it seem like you guys are better than everyone else, when we are all just trying to do the same thing, but again that's just my opinion, not trying to offend anyone who has one or who created them. I just think that we need to make this more like an Open Source effort, rather than a "Join the cool club and have VIP access" thing.

As for the bounty... I see a lot of people saying we should stop the bounty, or not have one, or whatever. I very much appreciate the dev team saying that they aren't doing this for money, that's very gracious. Although, I don't think we should get rid of it. If someone comes along and actually roots the thing, I could care less whether he did it for the money or not. If he wants it, give it to him, if he doesn't, give it to me. :D Suspending the bounty is a thought also. I see the point in doing that, but at this rate, the bounty has kind of hit a ceiling anyways. It raises a little from time to time, but not like it did before. So it's sort of like the stock market, but I think if someone did root the thing, they wouldn't just wait for the money to raise, especially if they notice it hasn't climbed in two weeks.

Sorry this is a long rant. Please don't feel like I am directly insulting any of you, as I respect all of you. If you feel that I am out of line, have a mod fix it or you can PM me yourself. If you really want to call me a as*hole you can do so in a PM :), just keep the insults or flaming off the boards please.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jcase:
Channel (No Password Needed):

#roottheeris

Servers (linked):

irc.wastate.net

ircd.thefuzz4.net

RoundRobin:

irc.thefuzz4.net
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
Oh thanks, I thought it was #erisroot for some reason. I'll correct my previous post.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tdavis42:
I almost spit out my coffee when I read the statements above. But this one stood out to me.

The eris Dev team did what was needed for them to get the job done(what root the Tattoo? HAHA) at the time. I didn't realize it was the Eris's Dev team's responsibility to root the Eris. Oh wait our genius "Dev team" rooted the wrong phone. This is probably one of the reasons we don't have root, because they looked over the obvious.

I think the result of them "going somewhere else" has shown it face and now XDA is suffering. We have a bunch of soft Devs and they can't take one guys crap so they pack up and leave and root a different phone. This should be called the Eris comedy thread because their is no Eris Android Development going on in here!
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Why is a non standard irc server being used? Why not use efnet or something. I personally dont want to open up a 5th irc connection just for one channel.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
Meaning they did what was needed to get negative feedback removed from conversations that were taking place. Every time the main Dev guys stop posting for a few days some guys came back expecting a tried and true root method to be here waiting for them.

BLALAALALALALAAAAAH...

I'm here to stay and I will support anyone that decides to work on getting root for the Eris, in a positive manor. If I could do it myself, I would. But I can't.

Nuff.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tdavis42:
Because this is how stupid things have gotten. If we would have just stayed around and worked here we wouldn't have this problem of fragmentation. Also new people would see that their is actually work being done and might want to get involved not watch one thread to see if it is updated. I have already come to terms with the fact that this phone will not be rooted with 1.5 on it. I have a little more hope for 2.1 but won't hold my breath.

I look at this section as a stock watch now: I come a check the ticker to see if I made money and one day I came by and saw that my company made money for someone else. BTW this ticker doesn't have much action!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Spencer_Moore:
I don't usually post here, but I think this is necessary. I have been following phone hacking since my XV6700 (HTC Apache), then the Vogue and now my Droid Eris. Each of my first two devices had to be hacked by using a special bootloader. This task was left up to the verteran hackers or people of knowledge and everyone else sat around as a support team. This is how the community has always worked and will continue to work. Although everyone would love to put their input in, that is simply not possible. Having an established Dev Team and spokesperson unifies the task so it can get done quicker.

XDA is not suffering, once root is acheived by our dev team (and it will), We can all contribute roms and themes; creating the community everyone keeps talking about. If you feel like you have something to give to the dev team (which almost all phones have) contact acidbath. He seems very nice and welcoming, he will probably let you try and help.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Videofolife13:
I completely agree. As sad as it is, there's not much to do with 1.5 on it. It was said earlier by someone that our kernel seems "unhackable". Hopefully when everyone is on 2.1, there will be more support and it'll happen.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
I value your opinion, and can appreciate your point of view.

And I apprecite the civil and respectful way that you voiced your opinion.

So thank yiou for that :)

I wont argue the point as to why people moved offsite, or whether it was just because of a few people, thats really here no there anymore, we have beaten that horse to death!

As far as jumping thru hoops or having to solve a rubicks cube to get on the Dev Team, thats not true at all....you would just have to email or PM me and have some knowledge on exploits or kernel hacking.

As far as the signature pic goes, I agree with you and removed mine, made me kinda look like a D.Bag I think...

With the spokesman role, it was just to make sure that everyone was informed, I never ever intended to look better than anyone else! I am just an cell addict like everyone else, and I honestly spend most my time making WinMo Roms for my Rhodium more than I do anything android.

As far as the bounty is concerned, that another dead horse, its just not that important to me so I will leave that alone.

I just picked up my HD2 while on vacation, so I am happy no matter what :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Try and voice your opinion in a constructive way.

Just slamming people or threads is not productive.

Try and have some sort of contribution.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Right...WOW...lmao!

Good stuff man :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
dont hate the truth even a member of the dev team agreed, one of the members i respect most as well.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Edit : Dont want to lower myself, Good Luck :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
Nothing against you, just never saw the point of the private forums :D opensource ftw
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
No worries man...Nothing at all against you either :)

We all disagree on some stuff, its life right.

Hope to see you over on the Darkside (WinMo) someday ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
Farewell,

Hope everything goes well for you.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
Simple:

This thread was created to work on root. We've been using IRC lately (irc.thefuzz4.net room #roottheeris). Feel free to join us there if you want to work on it. Keep comments on topic to root please. Enough said, thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tdavis42:
I did voice my opinion in a constructive way when this was all being started in another thread. I said that this area would die if all the Dev's(?) went off site. I recall everyone going "Oh no, don't worry about that, that won't happen." Well here we are and it has happened.

I have been giving this a go (rooting) for a while now and:

A. Didn't want to join a secret forum

B. Couldn't come here to collaborate, no one is left

c. Didn't like the attitude from some Devs when people started asking questions about going back and trying different methods on same exploit.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
As I said, please try to keep this on topic. I'd appreciate if we worked on root as a group instead of all over the place, and hopefully without flaming each other.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Blizz127:
Saw this coming a mile away. lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] Raziken:
MR2 Extraction is underway, not really finding anything. InstallerShield Really locks things down, in terms of extraction.

Edit:

Success, got extracted. Not many details at this point but I will say that replacing the rom with a new rom may work, due to the presence of some sdk variables I found. Also ADB.exe is present, as well as a Console Tool that wont run for me... yet.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Dangraef:
What rom.zip would you use?

I am new to android moding, but trying to figure the same thing out for the last few days... strange when I upzipped "ADR6200_MR2_Upgrade.zip" windows 7 gave me an option to extract keys to a file... don't know what that file did but I extracted everything. It saved to a .pfx file.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Trying to use the Installer is the wrong way, when flashing it sends the entire zip to the device, the device does the checks not the installer its a dead end no exploit is there.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Dangraef:
Is there a rom to try though? I thought I saw someone post one awhile back, saying at least the rom would not brick the phone?
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
I dont know if it would help much...it would send the

whole zip over....i think we might hve dead end there like firesoaker said...hmmmmmm
[Droid Eris Android Development] Dangraef:
I found the post by jmanley but the link to the rom is dead... anyone have it? I have a few ideas I would like to try?
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
I think our attacks are going to have to focus on either the bootloader or the kernel exploits.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Yeah, all the RUU installer does is extract the zip, reboot into oem-78 mode, then run flash zip rom.zip

The fastboot loader does the signature check, so unless you can change the zip without changing the sig, which isn't real likely, that'll be a dead end.

I think it might help to look into the 'superboot' recovery images that are coming out. They seem to exploit a few extra kb at the end of the zip that the bootloader ignores if I understand them correctly.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Raziken:
What I was going to try to do was change one of the predefined command modules to boot into OEM-77/79 and see if sending the zip by use of that would allow for an unsigned rom to be run. No luck however.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tkirton:
Would the Sprint Hero source help out in this? I know it's not exactly the same code, but I was thinking it may help in trying to find a vulnerability that you guys can use to achieve root.
[Droid Eris Android Development] JTF2007:
I'm wondering if the "78" for fastboot stands for "SU" and if there are other number combinations that might gain us access. I don't have the know-how to test any other potential commands but just thought I'd throw this idea out there. Some other possibilities could be:

38 or EU for Engineering User

38 or FT for Field Test

482 or HTC for HTC

89 or VW for Verizon Wireless

Anyway, you get the idea. Is there a chance that any other switch is a command like "78" is?
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
The RUU's pretty much a dead end. we threw everything at it. i logged every command it uses in fastboot oem. unless you can break the rsa encrytion which is next to impossible it's a dead fish. no sense doing anything with the RUU except post it here in forum when a new one comes.

but later once we get root the RUU will offer us a way to send our packages to the phones.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
True...

And with HTC releasing the Sprint Hero code today...we know whose next :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Forget the CDMA Hero, your bet is to use the Tattoo Source, it is unable to be exploited the same as our and is in the exact same situation for not being rooted, all exploits have the same effect. The money is in that source until ours leaks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Raziken:
I'm checking it out.

Also, has anyone experienced any issues when using terminal to use fastboot commands? I mistyped a command and ended up having the data on my phone wipe. :confused:
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Some of the fastboot commands can wipe your phone. One of them can disable your SD card. They're SUPPOSED to do that, its just one of the things to worry about when playing with fastboot.
[Droid Eris Android Development] paraplegicpanda:
Hey all, Acid suggested I post this over here in the bounty thread so here it is:

Pinksocker69 and I are working on the website right now and it should be up by the end of next week at the latest. Acid has agreed to be our ambassador. If anybody else wants to join just PM me and I'll be more than happy to get you all of the details. Hope to hear from people soon!
[Droid Eris Android Development] CPCookieMan:
Well, I have a computer that runs all day and does nothing much, just recording TV, so how would I set such a computer up to crack the encryption? :confused:
[Droid Eris Android Development] paraplegicpanda:
I don't exactly have an answer for you Cookie, but as soon as we get the dev team organized we'll see if we can't get a list together of things non-hackers can do to help out and maybe even tutorials on how to set those things up.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Videofolife13:
This is all great stuff and I love all the hard work, but have any devs signed on yet? I mean, that's the big if.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rom116:
seriously?

The people who get upset enough to flip out and complain on a forum like this must have no lives. I am excited about getting root too, but we r talking about a phone guys...get a life. Thanks devs for all the work and for putting up with retards who have nothing better to do then act stupid on internet forums.
[Droid Eris Android Development] devildog9999:
Good Lord... what has happened to this thread. Everyone wants to root this device, but it is a tough nut to crack. I learned a long time ago while in the Marines a very simple and important way of life... "Remove ALL emotion from Every decision you make."

There is no need for any personal attacks, flaming, trolling, or any other conduct that is not (for the lack of a better word) Adult. If you are not able to handle yourself in a manner that is prudent to the original thread, then simply go elsewhere. Negativity toward the main goal will only hamper it.

Let's stay on topic and continue to do what we can to try and break this thing open, and PLEASE, leave the emotions out of the forums.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
With the direction this is going,

Can we get a mod to close this thread?

Thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hallstevenson:
Damn, talk about a bunch of ungrateful, impatient, and immature people.... I'm curious, what do the folks trying to root the Eris owe you ? Not a damn thing, that's what ! I certainly hope they ignore the childish antics here and keep working on things. I know most do it only for the challenge and hopefully that still keeps them going.