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[Droid Eris Android Development] ECLIPS3:
I am trying to stay positive and productive here. I am not trying to boss anyone around, but rather to try and get this thread back on topic and to hopefully stay on topic.

PLEASE,

If you do not have anything constructive or nice to say, please do not post in here. This thread is for ROOTING AND THE BOUNTY ONLY. If you want to vent make a new thread called RANTING / VENTING and post in there. Please do not post in here any more about flaming, personal attacks, venting, etc. As it has been said, that will only hinder the chance of getting this phone rooted.

I have been watching this and hoping that I wont have to post. As an outside view it seems like everyone wants to post and have their opinion noticed. Im not saying opinions are a bad thing, but when it involves people saying how they knew they were right, or they saw this from a mile away, or 10 posts on how they should stay on topic, then it gets overboard. (i know i just broke this point, but bear with me.)

Please have some respect for your fellow community, and please stop all the posts that are NOT RELEVANT to ROOT AND BOUNTY of the Eris.

I thank all the DEVS working on this phone for their hard work. I wish i could help or at lease view the private board, but I have realized it is not worth it to keep bugging the people that are trying to do something that no one else has been able to do. Especially for the community and for free.

My last piece of advice:

EVERYONE, please just take your hand off of your keyboard, step outside and take a deep breath. After you have done that, come back inside and spend some time with your family, friends, pets, whoever. When you have finished spending time with them, come back to your computer and check the thread. Hopefully by then they might have root. If not either offer constructive help on finding root, and either join the THREAD or the IRC. If you unfortunately cant help on root, like i cant, then just go back to your family.

(Mods, Acidbath, ETC, If you take offense to this post, let me know and I will be glad to work out a more appropriate post.)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Sub-Standard:
To the Devs hard at work on finding a root:

Please don't give up on your hard work because of a few ungrateful people. There are many more of us that very much appreciate your hard work & realize that not much talk from you guys just means that a lot time is being spent on task.

To change the topic a little, I have a question regarding the Eris....

Has anyone had problems finding a good screen protector? I ordered a mirror screen protector from eBay & it made the screen look kinda 3Dish & blurry.

I have also tried a different screen protector from ebay. It was one that you stick on by wetting the back (non sticky adhesive). It also makes words seem a little blurry.

I guess it's my fault for being cheap. But are the $12.00 screen protectors from the Verizon stores any better?
[Droid Eris Android Development] nimdae:
Most development and hacking that I've seen takes place in more realtime communications, such as on IRC, with someone posting updates on forums. This is NOT the exception, but is the norm, at least outside of XDA.

As for the choice of IRC network...wouldn't it have been better to use something like freenode, or as suggested by someone else, efnet? Not that I'm interested in joining in, but there are people that prefer to limit the number of servers they connect to. It's neat that you can run your own server, but you have to think of other people that might be involved. Freenode seems to be used for a lot of opensource development.

Anyway, I'm being patient. I know of a few projects I've had at least some participation in that required platform hacking to get things working, and it takes time sometimes. Developers get really cranky and don't feel like working when people complain to them that they are taking too long. I mean, really, do you want to be part of a community that does nothing to help and constantly complains?

Good luck on root. Maybe some better luck can be had with the 2.1 update?
[Droid Eris Android Development] jamezelle:
+100

back on topic now please :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] redman213:
Since when did testers become so loyal? We really can't get a copy of 2.1 from any of them?
[Droid Eris Android Development] MikeChannon:
It seems things have ground to a halt as far as the original purpose of this thread goes. The thread will be destroyed if we let too many pages of divergent stuff get posted, so I'm closing the thread.

This will hopefully be a temporary measure only, in place only until some on-topic developments come through. The thread can be easily re-opened by contacting a Mod if there are new developments to report.

Mike
[Droid Eris Android Development] ljbaumer:
hey i am kind of a noob in programing and if i want to work on a root for android the leaked android 2.1 am i supposed to use the android sdk? and if so what part?
[Droid Eris Android Development] CPCookieMan:
Wow way to bump a really old thread... We have a dev team working on it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ljbaumer:
ok then...
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
@CPCookieMan

Try and help newcomers as opposed to being sarcastic, seeing as though you barely senior as well, its better for the community.

@ljbaumer

Check here as this is a very old thread...best bet asking members grdlock or jcase, they are good guys and impressive Devs :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=655634

Cheers!
[Droid Eris Android Development] ti-89rox:
Bump

Back to the good old days. :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] paraplegicpanda:
Yep. So far the team consists of pinksocker69 and myself doing web stuff, Acid doing our face work and PR. Jmanley has signed on and pinksocker69 is also putting forth what he can to help with the exploit. Pink and I are working on the website front right now. We're trying to decide on our collaboration software right now and hopefully we will have our team and our methods of contact pretty well straightened out by Monday.

The Eris Dev Team will soon be working hard to bring you a great Eris root. Who knows where we'll go from there, but we still need devs and ideas. PM me if you want to join the team. If you have something to contribute that may not necessarily be technical know-how, please post it here. As I said we'll try to put together a list of tasks that non-hackers can do to help us out as well as tutorials and resources to perform those tasks. If you have resources you're willing to donate post them here... you never know when we may need somebody with a rocket-powered vacuum cleaner.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Raziken:
Yeah, I know that. I should have clarified. I know the OEM commands can wipe your phone. I ended up using Fastboot boot g or something to that effect and it rebooted my phone, went into recovery. From recovery I rebooted, and the phone performed a wipe on its own.

Whatever the case may be, it happened. I'm just going to continue looking at the Tattoo and Hero src.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Probots:
I've seen, the HTC Tattoo hackers have the same problem as you (hangs on boot ...) (see: android.modaco.com/content/htc-tattoo-tattoo-modaco-com/299976/13-jan-1-2-superboot-rooting-the-tattoo/)

I don't know if it helps, but since yesterday, the HTC Tattoo Kernel Source Code can be downloaded from: developer.htc.com
[Droid Eris Android Development] Videofolife13:
In that thread, they made a post that says that the Tattoo and the Eris are pretty similar. Maybe we should be looking at THAT source code instead of the Sprint Hero code?
[Droid Eris Android Development] pinksocker69:
Looking at the kernel source for the Tattoo, I would anticipate that the person in the other thread was referring to the fact that the images are checksum'd, and validated on boot, not that the devices are similar in build. In fact, I don't see our device flag (CONFIG_MACH_DESIREC) even mentioned in the Tattoo kernel, where it certainly appears in the CDMA Hero source (which is, itself, outdated.)
[Droid Eris Android Development] jballz0682:
Hey, if you build it, they WILL come.
[Droid Eris Android Development] pinksocker69:
In this case I tend to agree. An easily-accessed clearing house of information and a good collaboration network will not only make the current dev's jobs easier, but will allow others to quickly get up to speed on what has been done, and quickly jump into the fray with their own ideas.
[Droid Eris Android Development] 00110001:
I contacted a friend of mine who is a Professional Security Consultant. He is going to get back to me on whether or not he is going to help us out. I will let you know when I hear back from him.

Also, I have donated a website where we can organize all of our efforts in getting the Eris rooted. I am working with paraplegicpanda in setting up the website. I also have an FTP server that I am managing so we can host any files that we all are working on there for easy access.
[Droid Eris Android Development] SoCalSpecialist:
as some may know im a mod over on mydroidworld.com, and im pretty sure i can speak for our entire staff when i say we would like to help with the cause.

we're here to help and contribute just like the rest, so why not bind together and work something out!?
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
I have a rocket-powered vacuum cleaner! :D

But if you need any web work done, or any extra Google Wave invites (I have one) for that matter, I can help you.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Lol....my vacum has a tv mounted on it :)

Thanks for offering your help!

Its really awesome to see everyone getting together
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
I'd be happy to help as well. I'm a professional Android developer, and have rooted phones before, and done rom development work.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Raziken:
Hum, making progress...

r00tKanal, anyone? :D

Thats all I'm saying for now, I don't wanna get hopes up in case things don't go as expected.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
How long until you know?
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Hope your having some luck :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] 00110001:
@binny if that was for me Idk when he will get back to me. He's normally a whitehat but he's show interest in finding root. He's going to talk to his CTO and going to get back to me. (He's president of the company.) It's one of those contacts you don't pressure.
[Droid Eris Android Development] pinksocker69:
Awesome man. Keep me posted on how its going; I'm working on getting most of what we know pushed into the fancy-pants new website. Love to hit the ground running with whatever new data we have.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Raziken:
Things are... progressing... slowly.

But progress is still progress. I'm not going to put a timeframe on it just yet, but I'm working as fast as I can on getting at least some proof out.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Rasiken chk your androidforums pm :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Raziken:
Checked and Sent

Tried: milw0rm/exploits/8478

Worked (y/n): no

Why?: Does not effect this Kernel Version.
[Droid Eris Android Development] thewhun:
If you need any more web guys I'd love to contribute to the cause. PM me if you'd like the help.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Thanks man :)

I will let ya know, great to see new members!

Welcome and enjoy.
[Droid Eris Android Development] d1g1talz0mb13:
the CVE-2009-2848 link leads to missing documentation.

Also, put me down for the $30 that brings us to $500.
[Droid Eris Android Development] cold21blooded:
Yeah guys.. if i knew how to do anything i would lend a hand but i dont have a clue maybe i'll look into it but its not really my thing.. Anyhow good jobs guys and lets get this baby rooted
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Thanks man...All of us didnt know much at some point!

Just stick around and enjoy :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Thnaks for the heads up....I will try and find the link and update :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] joey3002:
Count me in for $20, so thats now $520

I am good for it as I have donated to a few others on here in the past in reference to the g1.

thanks
[Droid Eris Android Development] 00110001:
@ parapelegicpanda

Check your message box. I sent u a pm yesterday.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Good Stuff man!

I updated your Pledge :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] paraplegicpanda:
Sorry it took me so long to get back here, I've been sick all weekend... :-(

Anywho, I really, really appreciate all of the volunteers so far! Right now we're not in a position to take on anymore web developers, but our website should be up this evening!

For those of you that are looking to help with web stuff, please send me an email. Even though we don't necessarily need anybody at the moment, we may need people at some point soon. If you send me an email (not a PM, mine are filling up pretty quick) with your what you're good at and what you can offer to help, I'll keep your information on hand until we need you.

As for developers, keep them coming! We've got 4 so far and we could definitely use more! Just send me an email and I'll send back all of the information you need.

My email is paraplegicpanda@gmail.com. Hope to hear from you soon!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Raziken:
Working really hard, I've literally been at this non-stop. I'll get some screens up as soon as I can.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Videofolife13:
Cool. Really looking forward to it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
If you don't mind me asking what point of attack are you using. Or did you find a new exploit?
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
This whole website to collaborate elsewhere to me is pointless. Thats what these forums are for, It's a waste of time and detracts from the main goal. All these "web developers" and support etc is not needed. Moving the project to a different site will not enhance the odds of it being rooted, i feel it will detract and alienate what possible help/ ideas are from the general public as that is what this forum is meant for.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
i feel your pain

but this site has turned into nothing but a few babies complaining cause root isn't coming fast enough.

alot of the original devs that worked on the project are getting tired of it and have left.

so a site where only people working towards getting root is the best plan to keep the bad apples from picking fights with the devs.

in about 3 days ataranine's ban will be lifted and we'll be back to the same nitpicking we had before and if it happens again i won't be back cause i'm tired of it too.

i might join up with those guys cause most of em i've worked with before the ataranine jman issue that caused the first thread to get canned.

i always lived under the rule as a moderator put it "moderate yourself cause you don't want the moderators to do it for you."

alot of you guys are great with your support.

but we have a few here that want nothing but to be the center of attention.

or trolls as we call them.
[Droid Eris Android Development] pinksocker69:
And I agree with you ... BUT.

Point 1: Exclusivity as a plus. Filtering and limiting access to a limited number of people helps keep discussions and process on task.

Point 2: Better organization of attempted exploits and reasons for failure. Currently we have a locked 150+ page thread with a pack of unnavigable historical data. Moving that into a cohesively organized database will quickly allow us to say: "yes, been there, tried that, didn't work" and provide reference.

Point 3: I was bored and tired and wanted to see if my years of web development experience had paid off. (They had.)
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Not to mention having to explain things that we beat to death about a month ago, im all for the more help the better but it gets frustrating explaining things over and over.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Point three is my favorite. I hate bieng board.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Lol..mine too :)

The point is that there have been issues and flaming and lots of counterproductive posting going on.

So now there is a quiet and organized place for Devs to go and collaborate.

I can ensure everyone that this isnt some elitist website with the goal to alienate people.

Its the opposite, its so that a root can be worked on quickly.
[Droid Eris Android Development] paraplegicpanda:
Point 3 is so VERY true... I'[m pretty excited about the awesome website Pink has put together for us. It's available to our devs for now and once we have a domain set up it'll be available to the public with a locked forum.

While leaving these sorts of efforts up to a community usually does the trick, this time it went horribly awry. The efforts of many great developers were squandered away as bickering ensued and the devs were run away by petty arguments. With the official dev team that I'm putting together right now I am bringing most of these devs back together. So far I have Jman, Zifnab, Raziken and Binny on board and I've been told more are on the way.

I wanted to put this dev team together to give the devs a quiet place where they can focus and collaborate without unnecessary distractions. However, their progress will not be kept from the rest of the world. Acid is our face man, our link to the outside world. He will be running our blog as well as pushing our weekly achievements to other communities to let them know where our developers are at with the root.

Another advantage of this method is that it provides a closer sense of family and collaboration. With a smaller group of developers our team can get to know each other better and learn what each one is best at, learning how to work best together.

As for the mass of web devs that are offering up their services... We are happy to show our appreciation but we won't be taking on any more team members than we have to. Low level developers will likely be given read/not write access to our files. Web designers and developers will be put on file in case we need to add more in the future.

I apologize to anybody who disagrees with us, but to those that do I say this: don't join us. Continue your efforts on this forum with any developers that come to the forum. Work on other forums and come up with answers. I mean why not? We highly encourage everybody to continue their efforts to root the same way we are and with everybody putting forth all of their efforts, hopefully we'll get this fella rooted.
[Droid Eris Android Development] 00110001:
Just an update, a friend of mine that is highly skilled in network security / hacking is going to take a look at the phone and let me know around the end of the week whether he is going to help us out. If he is hell need access to the new forum website.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Awesome!

PM if he is interested, and him and I can email and get him setup :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] totalnewb2.0:
Hi, I am in no way a developer or of any real help to you great people here and I'd like to say thank you for all the hard work, but what about when 2.x comes out? Would the root you WILL find not work on 2.x?? KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
that's where the rom cooks come in. they just repack the new update with our files and wala 2.0 with root access. once root has been hacked it's easy to keep and upgrade to new and better stuff. the hard part is finding root access.
[Droid Eris Android Development] CPCookieMan:
AWWWW! You did it without me! I could've hosted it free too... :mad:
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5467193#post5467193

Just wrote this up. Enjoy.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tmwilson02:
Thank you!

I just wanted to thank everyone that has been working their butts off on this project. I have been in love with this phone since returning from Iraq. I have little to no experience in this field but am drawn back to this forum and check it daily. if i can do anything to help, please let me know.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Glad to see you here!

You support and just being here is enough.

Also from a Marine over her, welcome back man!
[Droid Eris Android Development] larrymartin830:
I know this may not help but i was looking at file manager and well i downloaded File Manager by WooBoo

And well if you go to the bottom 3 folders they are data,root *wdf ?* and dev

but also when you open the program open the sys folder and it has a dev,firmware and also a kernel fold when i go to open the kernel folder it says *permission denied,permission limit to out side of the SDcard directory!*
[Droid Eris Android Development] redman213:
Nope, nothing useful in there. Lol i wish root worked like that just copy all your files to the root folder and install the su apk from the root directory and viola, you have root!
[Droid Eris Android Development] cryppie:
And now for something different

I thought I would throw this out there as maybe another path to take.

neat, I can't post links. That's great...

"To prevent spam to the forums, new users are not permitted to post outside links in their messages. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed."

I guess google Miller and Mullinger’s

Click first link and check out Miller and Mullinger’s paper at the bottom. The title is misleading. It is also for android and win.

I have been working on this on my own, so forgive me if this has been thought of before.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
yeah that flaw is old news. if i remember right the iphone was more vulnerable to it when they jailbroke thier phones cause they used a sms sever to jailbreak it and alot of people left te same password so it was easy to crack from the outside. i think everyone who was affected had thier wallpaper changed and got rick rolled. but i think android patched that hole ASAP so it won't work.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
True, but now will it work on the IPAD....lmao
[Droid Eris Android Development] 00110001:
Is the new dev website up yet or are you still working on it?
[Droid Eris Android Development] paraplegicpanda:
The website is up and our Dev Team is making some wonderful progress which Acid will be making a press release about very soon... We're just waiting until we have a public domain before release it to the public.
[Droid Eris Android Development] 00110001:
Greetings,

My offer still stands if you need a website to host the files on. I have a site with GoDaddy.com that I use for testing that I can let you use, with full access for your purposes. It is an unlimited domain, meaning unlimited bandwidth, storage, and I also believe MySQL databases as well.
[Droid Eris Android Development] paraplegicpanda:
We appreciate the offer Mike but things are on the same track they were when we last spoke. We have already built into the website my webserver and we are only waiting on one of our devs to register on the website so that we can use his domain to make the site available to the public. Again, we appreciate your offer and if at any point anything changes we will let you know.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Thanks again for your offer, I look forward to.updating everyone on our progress.
[Droid Eris Android Development] metasage:
No one else caught the capitalized letters in this post?
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
What does it mean!?
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Yeah we did.....

Lets all stray back towards topic.....lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] greemthumb:
thanx

just wanted to say thanx to all the devs working hard to find root for this bad boy. :cool:
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Thanks for your support man!