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[Nexus One General] anthro:
I live outside the US so I asked someone there to buy for me. I'm expecting to get my unlocked Nexus One next week. I'm wondering what the "Activate my phone" link on google.com/phone is about. I can't access it because I'm outside the US, I didn't use my Google account to purchase the unit, or both.

What does the activation do? How can I activate my phone? What happens if I can't? If I use it outside the US, what features won't work (assuming there is/are)?

Regards
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Yes, you can.
[Nexus One General] anthro:
That was fast. Cool.

Using the phone? So I don't worry about how I see google.com/phone on my PC's browser?

What does activation do? I heard that I won't be able to use Google Voice outside the US (I'm from Philippines), is that true? :)
[Nexus One General] Orangeandblue302:
As long as your country supports the 3G band you should be fine. Just pop in your simcard. Do you have a gmail account?

If it doesnt support the band the only thing you loose is 3G you will still run 2G.
[Nexus One General] anthro:
Cool. Good thing N1 supports my telco's 3G band.

I suppose, the activation is only for subsidized units (the ones from T-Mobile atm). Am I right?
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Nope... you're not right, but it's cool. You don't HAVE to sign in with a Gmail address to use the phone. You don't HAVE to sign in with the Gmail address you used to buy the phone. If you want access to Gmail, the Market, etc., you DO have to sign in with a Gmail address. But Google doesn't care if the Gmail address you used to buy the phone is what you use to log on with. I bought my G1 off eBay, and had no problem using my Gmail address. After I got the N1, I changed the G1 to my gf's Gmail address and it sync'd all her info.
[Nexus One General] Wii60:
Draconian activation policies are for Apple users, not for those of us with the best cell phone in the world
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] buggs1a:
I'm selling my verizon tp2 and need to deactivate it before the buyer buys it tomorrow. So I will do a reformat to factory default using the jucy rom I have and then deactivate it. But how do I deactivate the phone?

Thank you.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] LordLugard:
What do you necessarily man by "deactivate"?

Is there an active line tied to the phone (as in can you make and receive calls on it)? If yes, then you have to call C.S and either terminate your service or swap to another phone.

If there is no current active line tied to the phone (as in you have another phone which is why you're selling the TP2), then just do a hard reset or install a ROM of your choice.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] buggs1a:
I will still have the line but no phone for awhile. So I need to deactivate the phone but I guess cs can just take it off my account and me do a hard reset. I was wanting to do this myself the deactivate. Can I or do I have to call in and have them do it?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] encephalon9986:
If you have an old phone from verizon, you can go to verizonwireless.com and log into your account and select your number and hit go. Then somewhere around there it says change device and then you put the number under the battery of the old device into that area and then once your done the tp2 should not be activated and your old phone will be activated. Then just hard reset the tp2 and you should be good to go.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] buggs1a:
Thanks for the help.

I called vzw and they said they won't deactivate it unless I have another phone to put on the line. How stupid. So I have to buy a phone and pit it on my line before I sell it cus then the buyer can't activate it for him. So crud. I didn't wanna buy a phone right now but to sell mine I guess I have to.

I'm not cancelling my line so that's why it's this way. They won't let me have a line with no phone. So hmm. Dunno what phone to get now.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] drewcam888:
Why would you pay for a plan without a phone. That sounds kinda silly
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] zcarman:
Purchase a prepaid (I think Target stores have one for $20) and activate the number to that ESN. Then call VZW back and have them suspend the line until you are ready to use it.

Be aware, YOU may face the ETF if you deactivate the data plan! This is not a 100% guarantee, but they are getting really sticky about people selling smartphones and activating old Razors and stuff on a $9.99 add on line instead.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] isdnmatt:
This is NOT true. You will only face the ETF if you cancel the line in question within the contract timeframe. When agreeing to the contract terms, there is no mention of a required data plan, only that you must maintain voice service on that line.

In fact, when activating a newly purchased smartphone, it is only required to accept the terms and conditions, NOT activate the device. Pressing 2 after agreeing to the terms and conditions skips the device activation and thus the adding of a data plan.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] encephalon9986:
You dont have an old phone that you had before the TP2?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] zcarman:
As of 11.14.2008, all Verizon Wireless customers purchasing a new PDA/Smartphone or Blackberry device are required to carry a minimum $29.99 data plan on the line as a part of their contract. When you agree to the terms of your contract, this is part of the agreement.

You cannot purchase a 3G smartphone without selecting a data plan online now - nor can you purchase one in-store without one. Check the website as you can no longer complete a purchase of the device without selecting a data plan - also, try activating a used device and you will have the same issue - data plan required! It has been a part of the smartphone contract since November of 2008.

http://gizmodo.com/5074915/verizon-forces-30-minimum-data-plans-on-new-smartphones

http://technologizer.com/2008/11/03/verizon-makes-data-plans-mandatory-on-smartphones/

Also, as far as your second statement, it is also wront. You only have 30 days to activate a new device without contacting Verizon Wireless directly. If you do not activate the device within 30 days, a lock is placed on the ESN and your account is charged the full retail price of the device. I know this for a fact, because I faced it when changing from my BlackBerry Storm to my TP2... I actually received a letter stating that, "if the device is not activated within 30 days, your account will be charged the full retail of the device." Also, when I called to ask about terminating my data plan, and rolling to what was the "Connect" plan with a Rogue, Dare and Razor on my 3 lines, they said that I would still have to carry the PDA as that was part of my contract, or I could pay the termination fee (which was $175 at that time) to terminate that contract and start a new one on that line.

See Post #7

http://www.wirelessforums.org/alt-cellular-verizon/does-verizon-require-

upgrades-activated-purchaser-8278.html

Last month, it leaked that VZW was changing their '3G smartphone and 3G media phone' ETF to $350. Not the normal $175 that was associated with them. So that was my reasoning for saying that the person might be facing $350 ETF - instead of the $175.

Basically, VZW got sick of people trying to do the BOGO's on BlackBerry's, Omnia's and Touch Pro's and then terming the second line and selling the phone. They are cracking down on Smartphone's and data plans and we are the ones that need to watch out for it.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] isdnmatt:
Are you making a distinction between accepting the terms and conditions? and activating the device? I know that you HAVE to have a data plan on Smartphones, but the system doesn't even make you activate the phone as long as you accept the terms and conditions.

If you're saying that you HAVE to activate the device within 30 days, that's not correct. All you have to do is ACCEPT the terms and conditions within 30 days to avoid the full retail cost.

Are you aware of the prompts I'm talking about? The first prompt reads the important parts of the customer agreement, like that if you cancel your line, for advanced devices you may have to pay a ETF of $350. Once you accept that, you can see online that it extends your contract for the selected contract term. The 2nd prompt asks you, would you like to activate your new device now? Option 2 is to activate later.

There is no mention of anything you said here:

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...GREEMENT&jspName=footer/customerAgreement.jsp

There is a difference between activating the device and accepting the new contract terms.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] buggs1a:
Thanks for writing guys. The reason I wanted to not have a phone on my line after I sell my tp2 was because there are no good enough phones. I wanted tojust wait till better phones came out. Well vzw said no so I had to buy a phone in order to sell mine deactivated. So after some anger on my part because of their unwillingness to help me with the cost of a new phone they finally gave me the droid for 1 year contract cost thus extending my line 1 year. They said they want me to be happy so they did this. With $100 rebate but I got no rebate. They said they don't do instant rebate on the phone which sounds like bull cus my tp2 they did. Well anyway I was ticked telling the lady I spoke to my opinion on the policy and it's my phone. I should be able to do what I want when I want. I should be able to sell and not have a phone on my line for a bit if j want. I was so mad but nice. So they gave me the 1 year cost.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mobius7107:
because removing a phone off a line forces it to become deactivated canceling your contractual agreement to carry over voice services for a set amount of time. with no phone to charge any services on then you are breaking the agreement.

and stand to get an ETF fee even a deact for a few seconds ends the contract.

just buy a prepaid and do a device swap
[HD2 General] semo2010:
Hello fellow HD2 users,

I've got an HD2 T-Mobile UK. I've just tried my luck with HSPL, I've succeessfully installed HSPL using the steps in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609477

However, when I copied the LEOIMG.nbh (1.48 offiicial rom) file to the micro SD 8GB card; and rebooted, things seemed ok untill it suddenly stopped the progress of flashing the ROM and gave me a Grey screen with the Error 00028002 "not Allow" sort of thing.

So I tried yanking battery out, rebooting normally, it displays a grey triangle with " ! " in the middle and then displays the 00028002 error then back to Tri colour bootloader, I noticed that the HSPL is gone and its back now to 1.42.0000

I even tried a Factory reset, it does the reset I reboot, but it still shows me grey triangle and same routine. I've tried everything now. This bloody T-mobile phone is just useless to me at the moment !

Can you please HELP !!! Thank you so much !

Regards !!
[HD2 General] semo2010:
Ok found solution, I just had to install the official T-mobile 1.43.110.0 ROM from this link:

http://rapidshare.com/users/258XUJ

After just switching on the phone with microsd inside, I just plugged the usb and started the RUU and followed the steps and things are back to square one now.

not thrilled that it has been a nightmare so far to get a new rom on.

but at least I can use my phone with its basic functionalities. not gona push my luck again...
[HD2 General] optiknerv:
You cannot flash official ROMS from the sd because it replaces the SPL with a stock one. Presume it got half way through then decided the ROM was not for your device since it hasd replaced the SPL. Cooked ROMS are ok to flash from SD but for Stock use the RUU.
[HD2 General] karshi:
tell me it's working please.my HD2 from UK T-Mob is same "bricked" and in Slovakia is very very difficult to find somebody who can fix this....i think maybe only the HTC repair center
[HD2 General] mouzaihem:
^

If your phone can load up into the boot loader (tri-color screen) your phone is not bricked.
[HD2 General] SPEEDHAMMER:
Deeper Trouble:Same error,but cannot use USB!!!

Guys,

im in even much deeper **** now.I accidentally tried flashing a stock ROM via SD card and now ive gt the same ROM code error.What makes this worse is that my Vista computer is not recognizing any USB connection when i connect my HD2 to the computer.If i need to flash a stock rom via RUU wrapper to get through this stupid ROM code error, i need a USB connection at the first place...which IS NOT WORKING NOW!!!...im sitting duck here guys...i really really need your help on this one.im extremely frustrated and helpless.thanks alot...
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
When u say USB not working, how do you know?

Put phone in bootloader, connect USB cable,,, on phone does "serial" become "USB"? If yes then just run the flash.
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
Go to this thread Sam as kawshigan started a new thread
[HD2 General] acryn:
broken link
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Aaron McCarthy:
Okay guys... if we can get someone who knows a little something about coding I think this will be a MUST for anyone running a 2.5 rom. This was written in VGA but with some coding changes It can be made into WVGA. I have no idea how difficult that actually is but mkucuksari said on the first page to have at it.

so lets!

I myself would love to actually have a working programs tab again as I'm sure everyone else would!

Here's the link VGA Program Tab for Manila 2.5 / TF3D 2.5 with 20 Quicklinks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] YOSEFE:
I second that idea.

I know there is Max Manila's prog, but it would be great to just have a 20 quicklink cab.

Looking forward to one for our wvga tp2 devices.
[HD2 General] harky:
eh i want to ask u ppl.

how come when i use the calculator

e.g i press ==> 18.90-10%= it give me 18.80

did i press wrongly?
[HD2 General] Sc4Freak:
Yes, that is "correct". "Correct" in quotes because "percent" really just means "one-hundredths", so 10% is exactly equal to 0.1.

Other calculators might decide to interpret it differently, but the operation 18.9 - 10% = 18.8 is still a technically correct answer. You might want to try 18.9 * 90% instead.
[HD2 General] harky:
omg...

older version of htc is not count like tht.. sigh!
[HD2 General] pat12:
I hadn't noticed until I read your post and tested it, an you're right, it sucks!

But I have the solution, look for mobilecalculator.exe in the \windows folder. Create a shortcut to it in your \windows\Start Menu folder and you're set!

This is the original version that works like normal people expect a calculator to work
[HD2 General] pigglett:
Many thanks for that pat12

I also was having the same problem ..stupid htc calc :p:p
[HD2 General] harky:
hehe thanks!
[HD2 General] Treebeard:
I can not even see a "%" on my calculator??? Is it a hidden option?

Cheers :)
[HD2 General] Treebeard:
Good tip. thanks :)
[HD2 General] freedirk:
rotate your phone and the landscape mode reveals scientific functions.
[HD2 General] Treebeard:
Well. I'll be blowed, didn't know it done that!!! Only had the phone a few days :)

The % was incorrect also; 100-20%=99.8??? How strange :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] omneity:
In portrait mode the calculator operates as a business calculator, but in landscape mode it works as a scientific calculator.

To demonstrate this enter the following exactly as written into your calculator in both modes:

3 + 2 * 5

In portrait mode it will give 25 as the result, whereas in scientific mode it will give 13 as the result. Both are correct in context. In scientific mode it will use operand precedence - hence the multiplication will be carried out before the addition if it's not used with parenthesis.

For the OP's original question, the correct result will be obtained if you divide the original sum by the (percentage plus 1) you wish to deduct. e.g for 10% use 1.1 for 17.5% use 1.175 ... and so on.

So to deduct 10% (say as a discount) from 18.90 then type in 18.90 divided by 1.1 to give the result 17.181818r

Conversely to add on a markup multiply the net amount by the percentage value plus one.

Simples!
[HD2 General] Spike15:
Wait...

...am I hearing you correctly?

You're saying the ability of a calculator to do

math

properly "sucks"?

Are you kidding...REALLY?!
[HD2 General] harky:
haha just need a calculator which can use the feature we buy from store that kind of calculator.

i dont really own a scientific calculator but i think even a scientific calculator also work this same way

xx - 10% = u get ur ans.
[HD2 General] harky:
u need to turn ur mobile to landscape u will see more feature
[HD2 General] calypsoo1:
There is another calculator bild in windows. Try TC and find calc.ink in windows folder and copy to "start menu/programs". This prog calculating properly in this way
[HD2 General] harky:
what is TC?
[HD2 General] amang2205:
mate, now I know maths isn't the greatest subject in the states... but all of you? :)

ok, j/k :)

2% = the second part out of one hundrer = 0.02... hope this is clear

so if you press 2% and then equals, you'll get 0.02, which is correct

if you try, 100-20%, you will get 99.8, which is correct again. if you want to get 0.8, then you have to use the brackets (100-20)%
[HD2 General] amang2205:
and i case you didn't know it yet, what % does is to devide the number to 100... obviously :)

and since, in the equation 100-20% (which really is 100-20/100), the division has a greater priority, that's the operation that comes first...
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
Nothing like teaching elementary maths on a mobile forum, hehe
[HD2 General] amang2205:
absolutely :)
[HD2 General] Mithrandir007:
Indeed :D

That calculator isn't working properly though, I do this :

1 + 1 and it gives 2 as an answer... everyone knows the answer is 3, right? :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] calypsoo1:
TC = Total Comander
[HD2 General] pat12:
Actually, yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Not being a math scientist, I expect a calculator to do maths the way average people understand percentages and when I see 20% off, I expect to pay 80% of the original price and not 0,2 € less.

So, in my book 100 - 20% = 80 and not 99,8 (which I would get by doing 100 - (20/100))

In addition, as dumb as I may sound to you, I don't need a calculator to tell me that 12.5/100=0.125 whereas I need one to know that 3589 + 12,5% = 4037,652 and not 3589.125. I guess if we had a poll on this you would find most people agreeing with me...REALLY
[HD2 General] Zmaz1ng:
is it possible to change the calc, so that i can use the %-function in the portait mode?

I need this function pretty much...
[HD2 General] pat12:
yes, do as Calypso1 suggested: copy the calc.lnk in the \windows folder to the \windows\start menu folder and use this calculator instead.
[HD2 General] Zmaz1ng:
thx!

but this calc looks incredible badly...
[HD2 General] casci:
I've found another solution.

If you want obtain 100 - 20%=80, you can type 100-100*20% and so on.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
The concept of people complaining because something works right is amazing and laughable. what you should be complaining about is calculator manufacturers that have taught you the wrong way to do something.

If you have used substandard incorrect calculators in the past, that is no reason to complain about one that does it right. I once had a car that pulled to the left, so i compensated in my driving. When i bought a new car, i didn't complain because my new car went straight.
[HD2 General] harky:
ya

haha by right

calculator should calculate for us

y do we need to go thur so many headache if there is a calculator.
[HD2 General] manicotti:
I think that this is a "calculators vs mathematicians" problem.

My desk calculator does what the OP wanted. The Windows 7 calculator, my does what the OP wanted. My HP calculator emulator (Free42) does what the OP wanted. Excel does not. Google does not. (Google adds parenthesis around the 20% to show the order of operator precedence.)

The OP wants the answer to "what is 100 minus 20%." The question is, 20% of what?

It seems that calculators treat the "%" key as "multiple the two most recently entered or computed numbers, divide that number by 100, replace the most recently entered value with the result of this division." Excel, Google, and the math-centric folks here interpret % as "divide the most recently entered or computed number by 100." The issue isn't operator precedence as much as it is about what a "%" operation is supposed to do.

It sounds like the OP wants "standard" calculator logic applied to the % operation of the HTC calculator.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
of course the simple answer is to forget all about the% button altogether.

want to take 20 percent off 135? multiply it by 0.8

want to add 45 percent to something? multiply by 1.45

only the x button needed , problem solved.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nightryder21:
Have you guys heard of this. It's an online tool to create your own theme from microsoft. It's super simple to use and install. I would show you my screen but I need a screen capture app.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/theme-generator.mspx#
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] S3BAZ10:
i posted this before. your the 3rd person todo so. research 1st.
[About XDA developers] vichet007:
I had seen few users with "Account Currently Disabled" label which is not "banned". I am wondering if "Account Currently Disabled" is disabled by Mod/Admin or by the user himself.

.. and what is/are differences between Disabled and Banned account?

Thanks.
[About XDA developers] DaveShaw:
"Account Currently Disabled" is the same as "Banned", the admin's just updated the terminology to avoid a possible legal ramifications.

Ta,

Dave
[About XDA developers] roofrider:
Is there a way to find out y a guy was "Account currently disabled"ed?? But i doubt it.

Just out of curiosity....maybe a bit too much :D

Cos i came across one such acc who almost a year back was trolling...and getting on my nerves.

Anyway some1 banned can just create another account and enter xda again right?
[About XDA developers] DaveShaw:
No we don't share details of why someone was banned.

They can, but we have tools for checking for duplicate accounts.

Dave
[About XDA developers] R.A.G.E:
Is a banned account just temporary or it is permanent?
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
That depends on the severity of the offence and the history of the user in question...

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[About XDA developers] invasion2:
Tools? Like IP address checker or something? What if multiple people in a house use XDA :o. Like my brother and I.
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
There is more than one way to skin a cat. None of which will be discussed here.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[About XDA developers] 85gallon:
Cool! :D
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
To answer your previous question before you're edit, that "tool" is actually a vast number of different tools from many different locations and considering the amount of posts that get made the amount that remain visible for any length of time is remarkably small.

One senior mod alone wiped out 40 accounts and jeebus only knows how many threads in just one hour this weekend. What you guys actually see isn't even a tenth of it so I think we're doing pretty well considering.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[About XDA developers] 85gallon:
Well give me a ban button. I'll handle it. :D
[About XDA developers] R.A.G.E:
My cousin ip is banned if i access my account through his ip will i get banned too?
[About XDA developers] DarkhShadow:
If his IP is banned you shouldn't be able to login, although even if you can I wouldn't risk it

Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
[About XDA developers] The El Guapo:
What's ban has to do, has to do with it

what's ban but a second hand emotion :confused:
[About XDA developers] 85gallon:
No.
[About XDA developers] boborone:
Oh wow, you're retired?! Thanks for the service man. And all your contributions back on WinMo. Have fun sitting back and relaxing.
[About XDA developers] Hedi.Karray:
so there is no way a user can disable temporarily his account or ask a Moderator to make it for him?
[About XDA developers] matt4321:
If a user wants themselves banned for a certain amount of time they need to contact a senior moderator
[About XDA developers] Hedi.Karray:
and they can decide when they will come back ?