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[Nexus One Accessories] Paul22000:
But is fancy packaging and soap water worth $17? :eek:

What what? :eek: I only got 1.
[Nexus One Accessories] dahui9:
Just wanted to let everyone know that with BSE skins I didn't use any soap in my water and waited for the skin to be almost completely dry and after 3 hours it has completely sealed and looks great!

PS I didn't even use an application pad just my fingers and the palms of my hands with a little blowing on the skin to dry it out.:D

-Charlie
[Nexus One Accessories] sstang2006:
last night I installed the ZAGG INVISIBLE SHIELD ( full body) and it was a pain to install using soupy spongy that they send with the kit.. it is impossible not leave any bobbles plus a lot of gaps all over the phone.. very disappointed, I took it off and now I ordered a BSE ( full body ) .. lets see
[Nexus One Accessories] thewayne01:
I finished installing the BSE skin last night. The corners are quite difficult but if you take your time it will turn out nice.

However, I don't know that I like the feel of the full body skin. I am thinking of just keeping the screen protector on.

@Paul22000

I purchased one on 2/6 and received two separate envelopes in the mail about a week later. Their site never mentioned that you get 2 for 1, but I thought everyone got this deal.
[Nexus One Accessories] Paul22000:
There was probably some type of error in their system. I only received one. Either way, You most certainly got lucky ;)

dahui9, or anyone else who purchased a BSE, did you get one or two?

Maybe there is a promotion going on that we don't know about.
[Nexus One Accessories] finesta101:
Just ordered the phantom skinz case. BTW.. where did it say you get 2 of them? I entered and used the code but i didnt notice anywhere i was going to receive 2.
[Nexus One Accessories] Paul22000:
Did the price change when you applied the coupon?

Here are the details: http://phantomskinz.com/winter2009sale.aspx
[Nexus One Accessories] Bjur:
They price changed when I ordered a screen protector. Just hope they come in 2 pack, but the priced was reduced.
[Nexus One Accessories] sstang2006:
ZAGG 20 % off discount codes expires February 21st, 2010 at Midnight MST (GMT -0700).

wpp8nf1
[Nexus One Accessories] detonation:
Should have left it on for at least a day or two. Most bubbles will go away in a few days after its sets. The directions CLEARLY state this. BSE will look the same way when you first apply it.
[Nexus One Accessories] Paul22000:
Not if you press hard enough and use sealant tape ;)

My BSE looked great right after applying. (Pics throughout this thread.)
[Nexus One Accessories] sstang2006:
just finished installing BSE ans WOW... way better than ZAGG INVISIBLE SHIEL..

BSE all the way
[Nexus One Accessories] captbunzo:
Finally installed my BSE on my Nexus One and my wife's IPOD Touch. It is a spectacular skin. I really love how easy it was to get the screen skin on perfectly. If ALL else fails, I'm happy with just that.

Better with the standard screen only protectors I used to use.

ONLY problem I had, which is I think gonna be tough on pretty much all of them, is with the corners on the bottom piece. I just didn't ge the corners to fit quite perfectly. But then again, first go, probably just experience....I'll get another one eventually, pull the bottom piece off and then give that another go.

I think the screen is MUCH better then BEFORE the screen protector was put on. Better feel and less of a mirror. I love my N1, but the screen was pretty stinkin reflective!
[Nexus One Accessories] dahui9:
Hey I just wanted to let everyone know this easy solution for thos not having the thread seal tape from the BSE tutorial posted earlier.

-Toilet paper

-any sticky tape you can find

wrap the phone one direction in toilet paper then the other after the skin is pretty much dry and you are getting ready to let it sit overnight. then tightly wrap the tape around the corners first for best results (keeps the corners more secure. After you are satisfied on the corners move to taping the phone up and down as tight as possible. Repeat left to right around the phone and then let it sit till the morning.

Once again I'm not responsible for any sticky goo :p that has been left behind because of your poor wrapping skill :D but this may help those having problems.

-Charlie
[Nexus One Accessories] kpjimmy:
I initially put the BSE full body protector on. Due to my late night impatience, I didn't focus on the lower corner of the phone enough and now it comes up. By the time I went and tried Paul's tape method, it was too late. So, I opted to customize my N1 with a picture of my daughter with Zagg's customized Zaggskins. I have one yet to come to compare which I want to put on, but I did put on the Zagg Invisible screen protector. I have to say they are very similar, but I am liking the BSE for overall fit. I'll report back on the Zaggskin next week.
[Nexus One Accessories] pongalong:
Glad to see people are taking the thread seal tape advice =)
[Nexus One Accessories] jp_macaroni:
first I bought zagg which was a waste of money. the bottom piece doesn't fit right and the screen cover wasnt clear.

Go with ghost armor. the screen cover is so clear you couldn't tell that its on there. and it barely shows any finger prints.
[Nexus One Accessories] kpjimmy:
I was open minded about the Zagg product because I love my customized zagg skin with a pic of my daughter protecting my phone....my baby protecting my baby lol....

I first had the BSE full set up, which I pretty much botched up on my own impatience so I opted for the Zagg products. First I removed the BSE screen guard and put on the invisible shield on. The fit to me was more off than the BSE. I know nothing will completely fit the N1 but come one, get close! Second, the touch was way too bumpy compared to my BSE and I said screw it and installed another BSE screen guard on and now completely satisfied.

I know have a customized Zaggskin, and a BSE screen guard, best of bost worlds IMO.

Now only if BSE would customize skins, I'd be all over it lol. I admit, the Zaggskin is not a perfect fit either, but it does cover most whereas the BSE full body shield covers the corners a little better.
[Nexus One Accessories] validis:
My reviews of the Zagg and the BSE

Hi guys, I have posted my review, thoughts and photos of the Zagg Invisible shield here:

adambuckeridge.com/nexus-one/zagg-nexus-one

And I just finished fitting the BSE to my Nexus one today, the photos and review are all here:

adambuckeridge.com/nexus-one/bestskinever-bse-review-nexus-one

My vote goes to BSE, the corners are much much nicer, the feel is not as squeaky on the screen, and only time will tell about the durability.

Adam
[Nexus One Accessories] vr24:
http://www.shieldskins.com/servlet/the-160/Google-Nexus-One-Invisible/Detail

ShieldSkins - good product. I used it on my G1 - however, I went with BSE simply based on price this time around.
[Nexus One Accessories] JAW$:
Anybody heard of www.clarivue.com they are suppose to be pretty good as well.
[Nexus One Accessories] Paul22000:
Wow having two pieces that separate in the middle was a terrible idea. That Zagg looks downright awful :(

Clickable link for people: http://adambuckeridge.com/nexus-one/zagg-nexus-one

And pics:
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
How's your BSE holding up? It's been over a month by now... have you dropped the phone at all? Curious as to how durable it is.
[Nexus One Accessories] Paul22000:
So far it's still almost perfect.

I made the mistake of falling into bed with my phone in my hand so the top hit the headboard, and there's a little piece of the top part uncurling. You can barely see it unless you look straight on, but aside from that it's still perfect.
[Nexus One Accessories] validis:
I have had my BSE for a week so far , and I am really impressed with the fit, I guess the cut makes a lot of how good the fit is. For Nexus one the BSE is definitely better then the Zagg.
[Nexus One Accessories] Noel3903:
Had my BSE for about 2 weeks. It took its first drop last night, from my lap in a tall truck to it smashing the corner on the ground then a flip to its face. I would say 99% of the damage is on the skin. = AWESOME . And for the low cost i will just order another =) Very Happy with the BSE and how it covers the corners well :D
[Nexus One Accessories] Zeboo:
Just ordered BSE. I hope it is really damn good :D Can anyone list the Pros and cons for every Skins that you have experience with?
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Paul22000's install pics convinced me to get the BSE as well... IF I ever decided I wanted a skin.
[Nexus One Accessories] irishrally:
Did you get the anti-glare or crystal version?
[Nexus One Accessories] JAW$:
Hi, All

At the moment I am using a Clarivue Anti-Glare Screen protector.

It has decreased the clarity of the screen i.e. it is very blurry & foggy.

I want to replace it with another Anti Glare screen protector that does not decrease the clarity of the screen.

I was wondering if someone with experience of use could recommend me one to order.

I was thinking of boxwave please could some one advise me further.

Thanks

JAW$
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] schakal007:
Hi together,

is it possible to get the SonyEricsson X2 Surface working on our HD2? Have a look on youtube, it looks great, funny animations etc...

Does anyone know if this is possible? I saw a lot of imported surfaces from Samsung or other phones, maybe this one is possible to bring in as well?

Cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] lrbpereira:
Sure, you need to install the X2 PAPEL INTERFACE and the TILEWAVE PANEL... seach for ti on the X1 subforum...

But it´s won´t work with the SENSE... you have use one or the other... I think it doesn´t worht the work ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] schakal007:
Thx for the hint! I will have a look over there.

Cheers

Sascha
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jeckyll:
You mean this: http*//htcpedia.com/ARK-XPERIA-X2-PM-AND-PANELS/soft/rhodium-apps.html ?

* needs : after http..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mightymn:
I tried the tilewave panel! It's much much faster on the HD2 than on the X2 :D
[Android Software Development] niko1986:
Was wondering if there exists a ubiquity style app or widget for android, and if not why not? :P

I dont know how many are familiar with how ubiquity addon for firefox works but the core idea is like a command line for the web to save pointless clicking and cross site surfing.
[Droid Eris General] Seth Turner:
I am about to purchase a NAS device to act as a home media server.

So far my short list includes:

Synology Disk Station DS210j

QNAP TS-210 Turbo NAS

Some of them support iTunes server and can stream music to an iPhone. Surely there is a way to do this on the Eris! Is there an iTunes client for Android 1.5 or perhaps a better way to do this?

Any help appreciated!
[Droid Eris General] johnwalk:
dont know anything about android, but my nas drive packed in and i got a new one from pc world. i thought it was a nas drive but wasnt it was a network media storage, my ameo couldnt pick it up at all because it wasnt a nas drive, pc seen it fine and could map. hope this is of some help. make sure its nas.
[Droid Eris General] csht:
Not sure if your NAS device supports Upnp, but if it does like windowns 7 and can share media as Pictures Music and Videos, I found a program on the market that I could access the files on the computer over my network, the music would work but I couldn't get the videos to play. Search for UPNP on the market, I'll post the program later when the gf brings her phone around. There was a similar program on the Ipod touch, although it was able to play the video files, probably missing a codec in android.

The program was Andromote... if you have windows 7 set up sharing all the media on your nas you would be able to access it.

if a mod reads this, can you pull the restriction.. I don't post much but have used the site for quite a while. Thanks.
[Droid Eris General] sdnick484:
It's not exactly graceful, but I use MPD (Music Player Daemon), PMix (an Android client for MPD), and A Online Radio to stream my music collection to my Droid Eris (via Icecast). Unfortunately, the native Droid media player doesn't support the usual streaming protocols, but the above combo works. When I'm outside my home network, I use a web based client for MPD and have my Icecast port forwarded on my router. If the NAS device you pick up supports Linux, you should be able to install MPD and Icecast (both are available in most distros); the Market has both PMix and AOR for free.

The protocol iTunes uses for streaming audio is called DAAP, but I'm unaware of any DAAP clients on the Android platform yet. Searching google for "Android DAAP" led me to a site which offers a client application to control iTunes from Android, but not client. Again, if the NAS system runs Linux but doesn't provide a DAAP server, you can possibly install Firefly Media Server (formerly mt-daap) to mimic the fuctionality. However until there's a client, there is little point.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redmdc:
hi all

my theory is this but i ask all of you first if this has already been tried, With OTA updates these are all signed with i imagine official OTA keys so your device will install the update no matter what.

Now my question is, is there any way of reverse engineering the OTA signed zip files to figure out what these keys are so that we can make a ROM that will enable root on devices with Perfect SPLs

all information is appreciated

Thank you
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockdevourer:
If you have any place for me to download the T-Mobile OTA updates I'd be happy to look at them for you
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keemyb:
Im not a proggrammer or lwayer, so take my word with a pinch of salt. Wouldnt this need reverse engineering? Making this whole deal illegal?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aron7awol:
Required reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbacon617:
This. We need T-Mobile's private keys to sign the update, which won't be happening. If you can "reverse engineer" that then get ready to be famous, cause you just broke modern cryptography.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] linuxluver:
Depends on what country you live in. In the US, probably. In most other countries....probably not.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] no6969el:
Those who know little about serious cryptography often assume that a particular encryption method is safe if nobody has cracked it. However, as the eminent cryptographer Bruce Schneier pointed out in his Crypto-Gram Newsletter dated 15 February 2003, "That's actually backwards. In the world of cryptography, we assume something is broken until we have evidence to the contrary." By this he means that an encryption method can be fully trusted only if it has been subject to rigorous and critical analysis by experts to check its resistance to all known cryptanalytic attacks.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockdevourer:
While it is true that it's pretty much impossible to crack it, you can delete the keys and make your own. Although, I'm not exactly sure this is what he is looking for...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmhalder:
its encrypted, although you have a public key, you cant change a update since it breaks the signature... you also cant sign an update since you dont have the private keys... basically, no.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdarkfirex:
It depends on the strength of the encryption if it is AES-128 good luck you ain't never cracking it. If its RSA-512 It could be cracked by 1 person in 2 months. Or by a team of people say using boinc in 2 days. We cracked all the OS signing keys for the Entire line of Texas Instrument Graphing Calculators got a DMCA take down as well. We got EFF lawyers working to make sure we can keep working.

http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/14/145/145273.html

http://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/14/145/145377.html
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
Isnt it illegal though to be cracking this stuff?

Not saying you would get caught but if you did you may or may not be charged.:p

But its easy to root so why try another approach?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbcoder:
What would make it illegal?

YOU own the equipment.

The modifications you do to your equipment do NOT enable you to break the law and DEFINITELY do not MAKE you do illegal things.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redmdc:
wow thanks for everyones replies, the only reason i question is for all the new android devices come with perfected SPLs which either conquer or make it very hard to gain root, so my theory was if we could get these keys we could make Roms signed by 'android' which would contain modified SPLs and recoverys
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sync3:
A will a way..

With modern encryption ..there are very few people who understand it..IT CAN BE BROKEN. NOw if u want to read about a sort of physical encryption check out quantum cryptograpy.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redmdc:
im seeking some help on cracking this on a specialised java programming site so hopefully with some success we may have a solution
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbacon617:
It's still a terrible idea. You'll make T-Mo very, very angry at both you and XDA, with almost zero real gain. The rooting process is trivial, and it works. I'd also recommend talking to a lawyer if you really intend to proceed.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redmdc:
its only for personal gain 'wink wink' i can do what i want with my own device as long as i do not distribute it intentionally
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IConrad01:
Actually, so long as you don't distribute any code or products themselves considered proprietary to T-Mobile, if you reverse-engineer their encryption key, there's nothing they can legally do about it.

What I mean by the above is that if we treat the decryption process in a manner similar to how Cyanogen does his current ROMs, and stick to simply releasing OSS-derived code, there's really nothing that T-Mo or anyone else can do 'bout it. The trouble with this is that it would require somehow maintaining the drivers for the SPLs on the device while only modifying the portions that lead to root.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Zylograth:
Not sure how true this is but I stumbled across it and figured I would share.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100114PD216.html

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-to-Launch-Windows-Mobile-6-6-in-February-132099.shtml
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chrisrj28:
Hm, interesting stuff, I am thinking that maybe 6.5.3 has evolved to 6.6, but the extra support of Capapcative makes sense seeing as how Microsoft is looking at moving into that type of screen.

Honestly Resistive screens have come a long way and our TP2 is just about on par with a capacative screen but official support is the next logical step. I still don't like the enlarged buttons at the bottom though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
Why do they do this...finish one damn OS as best as possible and then move on. Windows has like 6 in development and we can't get one of them unless they are cooked beta releases...absurd.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Xebec:
If they do delay 7 until 2011, it will be the death of Windows Mobile. That pushes it to nearly 4 years to develop it. Apple and Google can come out with a decent OS in less than a year, why can't Microsoft?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ZUUL42:
It may be that mainly it's just a marketing decision. Marketing 6.5.3 as 6.6 gives it more appeal to the general public, more of a new step away from the "flat" 6.5.

And doesn't some flavor of 6.5 already have capacitive support, hence the HD2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] notinkeys:
Apple has complete control over the hardware. Android is a much simpler OS than WinMo. That is part of why.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ohyeahar:
This certainly doesn't make sense to me. Why is M$ bothering with WinMo 6.x at all? They should be allocating all available resources to WinMo7!

I like WinMo, but even I have to admit that it's glory days are long over. If it weren't for HTC and the XDA forums,

WinMo would have been dead a long time ago. Certainly, M$ knows this.

WinMo 6.1 is like a car crash victim. Apple and Android has ran over it at 80mph several times over. The WinMo 6.5 update is like applying a bandaid. It helps, but clearly it's not enough. Major reconstructive surgery is required in the form of WinMo 7. But instead of rushing to prep the O.R. they're applying another friggen bandaid in the form of WinMo 6.6!

This news is very disappointing to me. It appears that I have no choice but to jump ship to Android over the next several months. I had really wanted to give WinMo 7 a shot. But anyway, I still hope WinMo 7 turns out the be a success.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] OGIGA:
Did you know that "Windows 7" is really Windows 6.1? If you don't believe me, go on a Windows 7 computer and run "winver" (shortcut for Windows version).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] b1ck132:
Windows 7 uses Vista kernels, which was Win6. So Win 7 is 6.1 as it's simply a performance tweak with a few tweaks over vista.

I just believe Win 7 was what M$ aimed to to achieve while releasing Vista, and heavily failed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Microsoft seems afraid to come out with anything really NEW. For years everything they've released has just been a patch on top of what's already there or a reaction to the competition eg Zune

They want to keep compatibility, even with software that's ancient and not even really used, but in doing so shoot themselves in the foot with layer upon layer of fixes that just end up with bloating and slow down. For instance, why on earth are they still using NTFS, is it really the best available with it's constant fragmentation leading very quickly to your system crawling along?

I read some article recently comparing the the time it takes to do simple tasks on a modern quad core machine with an old machine running Windows 3.1. Bet you can't guess which came out on top !

I think what their problem is is that 10 years ago they really were at the top of their game and ahead of the competition. Since then they have been resting on their laurels and don't want to rock the boat too much for fear of losing customers. They're more interested in keeping old customers who might open their eyes and look elsewhere if things change too dramatically. This is typical of a company that has grown too large where nobody wants to take a risk and stick their neck out.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs really since they used to do so well and obviously have the money and brains to do a lot better. I can't see anything changing much soon until their core business market (conservative and unadventurous by definition) starts to move away from Windows laptops, Outlook and Exchange Server.

Edit (just remembered):

Anyone heard of Gates' Law ? This is the man himself confirming what I have just mentioned :

http://catb.org/jargon/html/G/Gatess-Law.html

http://codebytez.blogspot.com/2005/08/gates-law.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] badersk:
They are planning on using both OSs. Thus the continued development of 6.*.*
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stunno:
I'm sorry but the Gates Law thing is rubbish.

When I was doing my Masters I was using a 'state of the art' 386dx running an excel spreadsheet modelling fluid flow through soil under a dam. To obtain an accurate result he model had to be run overnight. I tried it again a few years afterwards on a Pentium 3 running the newest version of excel at the time and it took a few of seconds.

Now if the law had said that software doubles in size every 18 months then I coud believe that one
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] naplesbill:
Seriously people, this is not a press release from Microsoft. While I don't doubt the 6.6 release, I would put absolutely zero faith in their opinion that this will push back WM7's release.