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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] thedeadletters:
I've noticed a discrepancy between actual data speeds on the AT&T Tilt 2 from various users on the board.

Some people are happy with 1.5mb rate, others have about 400kb, and then some people's signatures have a data speed rate of about 4mb!

I've also read that AT&T put a 1.5mb hardware cap on the Tilt 2, which negates the Tilt 2 owners who say they have 4mb download speeds.

My device gets from 400kb-1.5mb (roughly) from standard HSDPA data connection, and a more steady 1.5mb using Wi-Fi.

Is this the same with all Tilt 2s?

Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Montea:
I'm running on the EDGE network using mobile internet explorer, I just ran www.mobilespeedtest.com 3 times consecutively & here are my results.

2162 kbps

2439 kbps

2478 kbps

I purchased my tilt 2 Dec. 30th 2009. I did add the "speed up your data connection" cab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] thedeadletters:
I'll try the data speed fix today.

Does anyone know if there is a data cap on the Tilt 2?

The fact that T-Mobile has the same phone w/7mb speed is ridiculous.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] a k a:
This is the phone I've been oggling for a while, but if there's a cap, it'll be a no go. To ask a rookie question, since I'd be coming over from CDMA and have been hearing nothing but trouble about the Nexus One in the last few days,...

Can you buy an unlocked T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 and then use it on AT&T without the cap?

Any educated guess would be much appreciated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zelendel:
The T-mobile version will not work on ATT 3G, you will only get Edge
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] a k a:
Bah. Vicious rumors....

(Frack.)

Out of curiosity: Presumably if HTC is making phones for both, then it would be a matter of swapping or hotwiring the circuit board? But then would the WiFi be capped? Newb question, I'm sure. Sorry. I'll root around the forum, unless you're willing to reply.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] burtonsnow8:
For speed tests use skyfire. Have yet to try opera 10

Opera 9 : 600 kbps

skyfire : 7200 kbps

seems pretty unrestricted as long as you got the right stuff doing the job.

*edit*

BTW, this is on a VZW locked phone with the dataspeed fix. I didn't do a before and after on skyfire for the dataspeed fix but I may try it later.

*editx2*

Also, IE didnt work much better. Best results have been on skyfire so far.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xredjokerx:
skyfire is DEFINITELY incorrect. it parses pages through its own servers before spitting them out to you so their speeds are inflated.

here are my speed tests:

www.mobilespeedtest.com - 2MB for more precision (keep in mind this is kilobits per sec not kilobyes per sec; for more information go here:http://www.dslreports.com/faq/1061)

opera 9.7 - 649kbps

i/e - 795kbps

skyfire - 6452kbps

and heres how you know skyfire is BS. you do the speed test for 7MB and you've downloaded 7MB in 4.8 seconds for a 11667kbps. That is a ridiculous number that even most internet connections at home dont get.

edit: this is with the jh20001 speed fix and also the sh4y one. and the youtube one i made. :P on an at&t tilt2 running energy rom 28011
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
http://www.mobilespeedtest.com

DEFIANTLY gives erroneous results and I really think that people should stop using it. I know EXACTLY what the maximum speed I can get is because I have an email from my network telling me what they have limited my HSDPA to and mobilespeedtest.com happily tells me I am getting multiples of this number.

The most accurate I have found is the 1Mb test :

http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1&more=1

Also - don't use any version of Opera with "Turbo" turned on or Skyfire as this will measure the speed that the proxy in between you and the test site will get. NOT your actual speed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] thedeadletters:
Thanks for all the replies.

I've also read elsewhere that Skyfire is not a good method of determining data speed.

dslreports.com's 1mb test does seem more accurate in conjunction with Opera.

I applied the datafixspeed cab and my speed still tops out at about 1500kbps on HSDPA with good reception. Even w/Wi-Fi, it doesn't go beyond that.

Am I to assume that people bragging about their 4mb d/l speed are using Skyfire, mobilespeedtest.com, or some other erroneous method of obtaining speed info?

Is 1500kbps d/l considered good? I mean, I finally gave in and got the data plan just for this phone. I wasn't expecting web browsing to be perfect, but the speed still hampers most sites that I visit. It also seems that friends w/the Droid and Blackberry have an easier time accessing the web than the Tilt 2 w/Opera. I'm not complaining, I just want to know how well our product compares to others and get the best experience I can w/the Tilt 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Skyfire and Opera Turbo both work by downloading the information you have asked for to a proxy server that sits between you and the data (web site).

The server downloads the data then it compresses it and sends it on to you, so it speeds up your pages loading because the phone has to download less data.

If you do a speed test you are testing the speed of the proxy, not your phone

No idea what's going on with mobilespeedtest.com apart from the fact that there's an advert before you run the test and people like good news ......
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xredjokerx:
i have att and my speeds are nowhere near 1500.

i get 363kbps on dslreports lol. wtfs wrong with mine! :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
There's nothing wrong with yours.

It's the network. 3G runs at 384kbps so either the network in your area's not upgraded or your network's limiting your bandwidth.

My network is limiting my bandwidth, which I am a bit miffed about
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] donniesd:
Here is one everyone can use. Its one i use. Its on my server.

Payload size is 3MB

I know it is accurate. If you theater to your phone and download the payload you will get the same results as if you ran just the test. I would avoid using opera as it will give you false numbers, just use PIE.

http://ithappensconsulting.com/speed/initialmeter.php

http://ithappensconsulting.com/speed/payload.bin
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Ok, clicked the first link on my TP2 using Opera 9.5 and....

Your current bandwidth reading is:

-3865258.70kbps

which means you can download at -483157.34 KB/sec. from our servers.

??????????

Edit : Payload (.bin) is 3.7Mb not 3Mb - don't know if that effects anything cos I'm not entirely sure what "theater to your phone" means
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] donniesd:
I forgot to edit my post here. But dont use opera. Use IE. Opera cant seem to know what 2 + 2 is.

teather means to use your phone as your internet connection for your computer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
You mean use IE on my computer ?

My computer doesn't have IE, and even if it did there's not a chance I'd be using it !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] donniesd:
Use IE on your phone.

Firefox and IE work great on computer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Why do I have to tether to my PC if I am using IE on my phone ?

And IE does work, but not very well on Linux
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] donniesd:
Forget about the computer.

Just open IE on your phone and go to the link.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Ok, that gives me an amazing ....

0 kbps !!!

Which is hard to believe since the page came up telling me I am getting 0, so I must be getting something !

lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xredjokerx:
thats what happened for me. then i retested and the speeds varied greatly with each test.. so im still not sure :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BASSMANBOB:
What Ive done before to test my speeds is to tether my TP2 to my laptop(desktop would work the same way) and use my phones data as the connection...then running Firefox 3.5.7 i run speedtest.net....I haven't run any test as of recent but the speeds of my connection are more than adequate as i can watch Hulu videos without waiting eons for them to buffer and browsing web pages is almost instant....

btw- Im running a Core 2 Duo@2.26ghz with 4Gb of DDR2 an Nvidia 9600mGTw/512Mb of VRAM and Windows 7 Ultimate....as all these factors could affect your actual browsing speed...as far as "you" are seeing it...
[Nexus One Android Development] Meltus:
I guess this is development, so here goes:

Ok, some people have repoted success with my Audio Hack on the Nexus whilst some people have reported no change at all.

If my app or the manual hack works for you can you please let me know what ROM you're running, and which version of my hack you used, it would be very helpful :)

Cheers!
[Nexus One Android Development] enomther:
I'll help ...

I'll give her a test whirl in a little bit and report back some solid testing results for you as soon as I can.

~enom~
[Nexus One Android Development] simms22:
i tried every possible combo with the options this morning and i still have nothing. oddly, i get a double screen option on the headphone boost screen. 2 yes and 2 no's. one pair is white the other yes is green and the other no is red.
[Nexus One Android Development] enomther:
my results and some information

Meltus,

Do you have a N1 to play with? or are you shooting in the dark (and thus need help)?

Anyhow ...

Some details ...

I implemented via manually pushing the AudioPara4.csv, AudioFilter.csv, & AudioPreProcess.csv files to /system/etc and then rebooting.

I tried both G7_v3r2 and G7_v2r2. Both resulted in (from what I can tell) no change. I did not witness any volume gain or decrease. No distortion. No nothin'. Literally everything appeared unchanged.

Some interesting things I found for you ...

The stock (or shipping) AudioPara4.csv in the Nexus1 (ERD79) is the exact match for all Stock-sapphire-32B(MT3G) ROM's/devices.

Also, AudioPreProcess.csv and AudioFilter.csv are not present on the Nexus1.

Also, the Nexus1 is shipping with a couple new .csv files in the /system/etc directory ... AdieHWCodecSetting.csv & AudioBTID.csv.

That's the results I obtained and the relevant detail I observed. If you need anything else from me in way of producing an audio mod. I'd be happy to assist.

~enom~
[Nexus One Android Development] Meltus:
Hmm that's odd, not sure why that happens. could be something to do with the screen resolution.

i'll look into it :D

Yeah, i'm pretty much guessing at the moment, with help from simms22, but we've still not been able to get the volume hack to work.

It's strange though, some people have reported success whilst most others haven't. And, from checking the logcat when the mediaserver restarts, it loads the AudioPara4.csv fine, so my files should make a difference and the headset boost option should work fine, but it doesn't ><

So far, we've established that the AudioFilter.csv and AudioPreProcess.csv aren't used by the Nexus, but the strange thing is, some of the Nexus firmware dumps which people provided for me include these files and some don't. It seems as if there's 2 versions of the nexus, either that or people added the files in when they sent me the dump.

So, it seems that the nexus loads the AudioPara file, but i'm not sure why as it doesn't do anything. The other 2 files seem to be bluetooth related, so i'm not sure they'll make a difference.

God, this phone's more trouble than it's worth :D
[Nexus One Android Development] simms22:
could it be that the nexus for google employees and the nexus for the public are that different. ive asked around also, no one has that app working on their nexus that i know of. could it be that some people are lying and just saying that it works(to be cool).
[Nexus One Android Development] Meltus:
Good point, and them lying is a possibility (albeit a strange one :p).

This doesn't make much sense to me, i'm gonna speak to some ROM devs and see if they have an answer :)

Cheers for your help guys!
[Nexus One Android Development] enomther:
yea I dunno ... it would certainly be hard to believe that this type of issue would be "intermittent".

This seems to me like an all or nothing affair, in which it really should either work or not. I could be wrong, I've seen stranger things happen, but I really don't see how this would be working for a "select few".

~enom~
[Nexus One Android Development] Meltus:
Very true, unless there are 2 different versions (like simms said, maybe one for google employee's), but even if there was, i don't see why they would make it different. (unless they made it different for the public, specifically to stop me doing this, which i highly doubt lol)
[Nexus One Android Development] simms22:
hahahahah...! theres always a conspiracy somewhere. but, me being more science minded than programming, the simplest answer is usually the correct one.
[Nexus One Android Development] Mi|enko:
My money's on a placebo effect. They get the new file on there, so they're under the impression it sounds better/louder.
[Nexus One Android Development] Meltus:
Probably. I remember a while ago, quite a few people (myself included) thought that the EQ was affecting the headset but it turned out to be making no difference at all. I would have put money on it too ><
[Nexus One Android Development] xManMythLegend:
lol..I wanted an EQ so bad I think I convinced myself something was actually happening.
[Nexus One Android Development] QMAN101:
I am not getting the double screen at all. I saw no difference in the volume either with the external speaker or the headphones after installation and setting up V2r2.
[Nexus One Android Development] jerrycycle:
Volume Hack

I have the double icons on the headset screen. I haven't had a change in the volume.
[Nexus One Android Development] NexVision:
Now I could have sworn when I tried it that the volume got worse and then I tried the files on your site the stock ones and it got better but after playing with it continuously for about 3 days I have come to the conclusion it is a placebo effect and nothing more.
[Nexus One Android Development] Driskol:
EDIT: Im dumb xD
[Nexus One Android Development] simms22:
hahaha....! one of my top 5 favorite posts of all time! but this statement isnt nexus one development. lol, wrong section :p
[General Topics] Carlos Arruda:
Hi Gurus,

I can't manage any files on my HTC P4351. If I try to get some file from internet, I received some messages as :"This device is restricted from downloading this file type", or "isn't possible to copy "file.jpg" : Access Denied".

If I use ActiveSync is the same situation. I can't copy / cut / paste. I can't move any file, to or from. I am using the card reader to get files from mini SD, but all files on device is "locked".

Thanks advanced

Arruda
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] g189ffin:
Hey guys,

I have an Orange HTC Hero and I rooted it a week after purchase. I then installed Modaco Custom ROM and then tried a few of the 2.1 ROM releases from this site. I realised on one of my restores that the phone would not restore nandroid backup. It said please us nandroid.sh to restore. After which I got a little scared and then tried to unroot my phone using theunlockr website. I tried to run the Orange restore for the phone and it runs the update but stops are updating signature. Can you please advice me as to restore the original firmware as currently I am unable to upgrade my patched recovery image (from Amon Ra 1.2.3 to 1.5.2)?

Many Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Nothing here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SH4YD33:
Oh man.. you beat me. Will try a little later. Gotta make a backup 1st. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I have less work then you ;D As my ROM is nearly finished.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SH4YD33:
You think its possible to get the 6.5 Smooth Scrolling into 6.1? Thats what my main goal is at this point.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I think that the Touch FLO does the job well. Doesn't it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Finally I finished this ROM. Download in #1 post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Any feedback?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BobbyManifesto:
just a bit surprised that any one wants to use winmo 6.1.

For me its like using win 3.x instead of win7- just my point of view ;p

any way congrats on this one. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aniym:
I'll probably flash this on to my phone tonight. I'm using the AT&T Tilt 2, and the problem I had with the stock ROM was that Touch Flo 3D was sluggish and music on both the HTC Audio Manager and MicroFi Nitrogen would skip and generally become unplayable if the phone reception was interrupted (on a subway, for example).

I flashed my phone to the Deep Shining ROM last night, which is cool, but still kinda slow, plus, PocketScrobbler keeps giving me a time server mismatch error which prevents me from recording my plays onto last.fm, which is really important for me. Finally, the DeepShining ROM uses a different physical keyboard layout than the one of the AT&T phones, so some of the keys don't work correctly (@ key becomes 1, for example). I never had the audio problems or last.fm problems on my LG Incite phone (running 6.1 and later, a cooked 6.5 ROM), so I'd like to give this a try.

What functionality will I lose with 6.1? Will Microsoft MyPhone and the Winmo app store still work? How about touchscreen responsiveness? That's really all I care about. Most other third party apps I use are 6.1 compatible.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
You can download MyPhone app cab from http://www.microsoft.com/myphone. Works on WM6.1.

The app store is to download somewhere in microsoft site too, dunno where as I personally don't use it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SH4YD33:
I'l flash this weekend and hopefully give you feedback. Hopefullt the speed will be better in fpsce wihout all the 6.5 eyecandy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Remember to turn off the GfxBoost before running this emulator. It may slow it down.

Aha, I messed something up with the drivers while fixing my remote control problem, so i'll upload a fixed version (this one is a bit unstable, my fault) xD
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Pozdrowienia z Wrocławia :)

Hello,

I do use WM6.1. becouse the WM6.5 is too heavy on resources. Even if you turn the ResProxy on dynamic, and disable the push internet the memory usage is high. After some days of use the TP2 slows down and you can't run more then 2 programs or whatever. That's why I switched back. Ach, and this Honeycomb is driving me crazy X_x
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I posted a MyPhone cab at the #1 post. Also uploaded a fixed version of the ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpaul3767:
This rom is great. Was a bit worried at first because I was getting no service, but then realised that it is set to airplane mode on start up. But everything is running smooth, and boy oh boy is it quick. No lag what so ever, except every now and then as soon as you have come out of an application and then use the slider, but even then, its only for a microsecond.

I thought I was going to miss W6.5, BUT, in all honesty, i think I have become so used to it, and its sluggish behaviour, that now using 6.1 again has no issues. I prefer the start menu to the honey comb, and my fingers and thumb are just the right size for the buttons, so I think I might actually leave it with 6.1. Very nice hybrid rom Jacko. Thank you for this. I am VERY pleased with it. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] looking-g:
using it for just 1 hour now but have to say what a relief smooth fast and reliable thanks 6.1 rocks for the rodium
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I didn't fixed anything at all ;D Anyway it's good that it fixed itself xD Enjoy using my rom ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] devdarshan:
Added 3 - still no issues! all with reminders and showing up in the calander tab and home page! I must be lucky!

Anyway, not a major issue for me as most of my appointments come through exchange..so am yet to come across a major issue which will take me away from your ROM...

One thing possible - I dont restore anything from backup - I always hard reset and then sync wverything from exchange...could that be a reason?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Yeah, so you must be pro ;D No idea why it works for you and for us it doesn't ;)

Doesn't matter for me however, as I just finished my Rhodium S2 WM6.5 ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] devdarshan:
will you be posting your new 6.5 version here or in a new thread?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
It's my private release. I didn't mind posting it anywhere ;) It's nothing special, just a speedy version of the stock Rhodium S2 Europe WWE ROM with some other improvements (like in my Jackos Hybrid ROM WM6.1. series).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Hmm, that could be a reason. I have a lot of appointments in my Outlook...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] devdarshan:
Please do post if you dont mind - we would love to try out - so far all the 2.5 manilla's I have come across are so bloated with Manila TV and doc reader and what not's and not to mention the execssive memory and battery drain...due to all these excessive program additions...

please please
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
OK, I'll decustomise my ROM and post it here on xda as soon as I will have some free time. Currently I'm too busy with my other projects and collage.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] devdarshan:
Thank you so very much!

You are a star!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
I tried this ROM for a while and really liked it. Great memory usage, battery life is great, and everything really fast! But I ran into a big problem which is when I noticed dotcompt's new ROM and flashed to that :D . The clock just froze up... Causing me to think it was earlier than it was when I woke up from my nap. Yeah that was a confusing moment...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I saw somewhere the issue in Gen.Y WM6.1 rom + Sense 2.1. There is a fix for that (it never did affect me, so i never looked into it). It's a autotimezone bug that causes the cloak to freeze.

I'll give you a link as I find it.

Update: Got it! http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3885687&postcount=2 "My clock stopped working / changed to wrong timezone? How can i fix this?"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
You may tryout my ROM here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=632617
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
Hey thanks for the fix... I'm using DeepShining for now but I may return to your ROM shortly. Are you still working on Sense 2.5 for WinMo6.1??? That would the ultimate ROM!

Also a bug which isn't necessarily related to your ROM but a bug I was having nonetheless, is in the Facebook app (and other apps I'd imagine) kinetic scrolling doesn't work right. In WinMo6.5 it works very nicely, but when I was using your ROM a full swipe only moved the page a little. So I was wondering if there was anything you know of to fix that issue? I never liked using scrollbars.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] edbolin:
will this work on a tp2 out of the box or do I need to do anything special? new to winmohere lol. thanks