yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MCbrian:
You used a T-Mobile

USA

version of the TP2 in Europe and had a usable

3G data

connection?? Hmmm...that's the first I've read of this.

If this is well-known (and if so, maybe I'm just clueless :o ) can you provide a link to more discussion, that is...uhh...evidence...of it? Not about what bands the USA version supports -- I know that part -- but other reports/disucssion of it actually working.

On the other hand, are there any reports of a Euro-TP2 that can work on 3G bands in the USA?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] quid246:
USA TMO TP2 will work on TMO 3G in USA. It may also work on WIND Mobile for 3G data here in Canada, not sure about voice as they are using some strange network setup.

As the phone is UMTS 2100 capable, it will get 3G data and voice in most places in Europe and Asia.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MCbrian:
Have you tried a Tmo

USA

TP2 in Europe or Asia --

yourself

-- and accessed 3G data?

I'm still doubtful, but I actually hope I'm wrong 'cause I'd love to be able to get 3G data on my TmoUSA TP2 while traveling in Europe...as long as I get a Euro sim card. Otherwise, faster data just means more roaming-$$.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
Check the specifications. It supports both 1700 and 2100 UMTS. That means it will work in Europe. ALL Touch Pro 2's have 2100MHz UMTS and quadband GSM, every single one of them, including the CDMA ones. The carrier specific ones add certain bands.

European Touch Pro 2s have UMTS 900

CDMA Touch Pro 2s have CDMA bands

T-Mobile USA has 1700MHz AWS band

AT&T has 850/1900MHz UMTS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drjby4:
TP2 overseas vs versions

I believe, as I've use phones often in the US and overseas, that T-mobile uses 1700 UMTS in the US, but that their TP2 is also 2100 UMTS. Just as At&t Tilt uses 850 & 1900 UMTS (At&t requires both frequencies), but also has 2100 UMTS. As such, both should work in most European, African and Asian countries (verizon and sprint you,re mostly screwed).

I believe the older Tytn II (tilt) was sold world wide as a 850/1900/2100 phone, so you could basically buy it anywhere and use it here on At&t only for 3g or T-mobile Edge only. Unfortunately, the TP2 is sold mostly as a 900/2100 UMTS worldwide outside the US, so you are stuck buying the US versions that correspond to the US networks. The bonus of the At&t tilit 2 version is that it is 850/1900/2100, so it will work almost anywhere. The drawback of the T-mobile TP2 is that 1700 is used by almost no one and while you can use it in most of the aforementioned places, you can't use it in the Americas outside the US & Canada.

Check out this handy wiki UMTS page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks

Just a note, I almost always pick up a pay as you go sim in other countries- much cheaper and very little hassle. Worth it for anything over a week stay. Maybe not as much so in some of Western Europe.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
That is correct. Apparently they are only able to have 3 3G frequencies (though NTT DoCoMo is currently working on a chip that can handle 8 frequencies!)

At first Europe only used 2100MHz 3G and AT&T had set up on 850MHz/1900MHz. Since those were the only 3 bands, HTC would put all three of those bands in its phones up to the Tilt (Kaiser). Once they made the Raphael though, there was 900MHz 3G in Europe and T-Mobile had chosen the AWS band.

Since they can apparently only put 3 bands in, and Europe now needed two for 900MHz/2100MHz, they could no longer put but of AT&T's frequencies in. So they must have just dropped them.

The AT&T version (FUZE) has 850MHz/1900MHz and also has 2100MHz, which is the dominant band for 3G in Europe. I am not sure if they are using 900MHz there yet, but they decided that was more important to put in the European ones than AT&T's bands.

T-Mobile's 3G phones get AWS and 2100MHz. I think AWS might use 2 of the bands because it is split on 1700MHz and 2100MHz (but a different 2100MHz apparently, maybe low 2100MHz vs high, I'm not sure)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MCbrian:
It doesn't just

support

1700 and 2100, it uses both to work: 1700 for up/send and 2100 for down/receive. So, how does the Tmo USA radio cope without 1700 band for up/send when it's expecting it?

So, the full story (?) is that T-Mobile uses 1700+2100 (up/down) in the USA (which is what I already understood/knew) and in addition to that pair there's a

separate

slightly-different 2100 band that's used outside the USA? -- That, I didn't know.

If that's the explanation, that makes sense. But confusing that there's 2 different 2100 bands...

I may have to use some frequent-flyer miles and go check it out... ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
According to Wikipedia, UMTS Band I (commonly known as 2100MHz) uses 1920 - 1980 for uplink and 2110 - 2170 for downlink while UMTS Band IV (AWS, 1700MHz) uses 1710 - 1755 for uplink and 2110 - 2155 for downlink.

Band II (1900MHz) uses 1850 - 1910 for uplink and 1930 - 1990 for downlink and band V (850MHz) uses 824 - 849 for uplink and 869 - 894 for downlink. The uplink and download for these are close, unlike bands I and IV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands

I just assume they are only able to have 3 different frequencies since I have yet to see a UMTS phone with 4 frequencies. But as I wrote this, I'm not too sure because there were phones with Band I, Band II, and Band IV which would mean that there are chips capable for 4 different frequencies? Who knows, maybe someone with actual technical knowledge about this can say.

Also according to that page, there are five different UMTS bands deployed across the world. A bit of a pain. That is more then GSM ever had and who knows if it will grow to even more. LTE also will be coming in before GSM is phased out, so we are going to have to have phones that have GSM, UMTS, AND LTE. GSM will be no problem, quadband has been standard for a while, but having a phone that has both your carriers UMTS and LTE frequencies is going to be tough unless you buy it from your carrier.

What they should have done is just used the band names, and not their frequencies. It would be much easier to know that Europe runs on band I and T-Mobile USA runs on band IV and the T-Mobile Rhodium supports both Band I and Band IV.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Montecristo:
I want to edit all of the DOC.

Where is IDS_ALLDOCUMENT == ......

and IDS_SEA....??????
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] IRREAL:
mui files missing or corrupted..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Montecristo:
I have no mui .... you have the mui???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] madsurfer1:
A quick and dirty fix for the documents tab translation, is for you to search all of the 4 manila files on the documents ext folder, and add them to your manila_core ext folder main language file

I dont know the name of the files, but if you open every xxxxxxxx_manila file with notepad, you'll find the language files
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Montecristo:
You can give me an example. Can not find what you're telling me. My English is bad.

Thanks for your time....
[Nexus One General] thedeathblow:
is the N1 capable with multi touch or it's just an update thing?
[Nexus One General] cmartinct:
My understanding was that the N1 would have multi touch enabled for the EU version.
[Nexus One General] thedeathblow:
and when the EU version ganna comes out to the market?
[Nexus One General] timothydonohue:
Google has maintained that the European version will be the same version we receive
[Windows Mobile Themes] hsmcd:
Hi guys,

found this great lock application in the web so though of sharing this to the community :D

This is a unique lock application created by Prompt Mobile Center for Omnia i8000/Omnia 2, featuring colorful butterfly, humming bird and funny yellow man which moves according to the movement of your device. (G-sensor)

Inspired by the nature, this lockscreen application features a colorful background.

The device sensor senses the movement of the device and changes the background and the butterfly/humming bird motion accordingly.

This 3D background also changes according to the time of the day. By simply tilting the device back, the screen shows missed calls, messages, or mail information received while it was locked. When the user touches the screen, the bird flies to the touched point. Touching the screen long enough unlocks the device.

S’Skin Lock Application has a setting menu to set locking time and screen backlight.

Whereas, this little funny “Yellow Man” character will move according to the movement of the device. “Yellow Man” walks, falls and hits the wall as the device moves. (i like this the most)

Check out S'skin lock in action:

Video preview

the developer's site:

http://mobile.prompt.co.kr/sskin/sskin.asp

So here's the downloads:

S'Skin HummingBird v1: http://www.mediafire.com/?nmmxbqmykjk

S'Skin HummingBird2 v1: http://www.mediafire.com/?2hmdihyymyw

S'Skin YellowMan v1 : http://www.mediafire.com/?konneamtl2o

S'Skin Butterfly v1: http://www.mediafire.com/?honyyzi2mmy

Cheers~

(not sure if this works on other WVGA device. If anyone ever tried it please give your feedback. Thanks in advence)

Edited: Seems like not working in WVGA HTC device. Wish there's any expert who can port it to HTC device. :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] ajhvdb:
Looks very nice.

The only thing missing is "lock when incoming call" but first I will test it.
[Windows Mobile Themes] minooch:
Touch HD

It doesn't seem to work on the Touch HD :(
[Windows Mobile Themes] ajhvdb:
I'm missing a shortcut in program files. If i go to the prohram folder I can start the settings. The lock screen isn't started.

You are using fluid and a swf file, nice ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] minooch:
thats what i get as well
[Windows Mobile Themes] iridium21:
Doesn't work on the Touch Pro 2 :( When I lock it just shows the Windows Mobile lockscreen.

Anyone know how to get this working please?
[Windows Mobile Themes] [zozi]:
Hi, dosen't work in HD2, may need change in reg something.

i think this aplication dosent work because the new lockscreen of WM, if change for old style maybe works...
[Windows Mobile Themes] silvscorp:
um...not working in diamond 2 either
[Windows Mobile Themes] jdw7985:
Doesnt work on diamond running 6.5
[Windows Mobile Themes] ZzFDKzZ:
Damn looks cool.
[Windows Mobile Themes] xavier1022:
Working Skin, Not Application

This appears to be a samsung add on. The LOCK application that comes with the samsung phone previewed is different. Now....If we can only dump the lock app from the samsung, this app would be lovely.....:) any volunteers??
[Windows Mobile Themes] hsmcd:
Yes i like this concept. Though it's a lock screen for omnia i8000/omnia 2, it would be nice to see this in our HTC :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] daasguy:
port for htc devices

yes i agree someone needs to port this to htc devices

T_T
[Windows Mobile Themes] dlwl:
would be glad if someone really ports this! wanna use it on my TD2!
[Windows Mobile Themes] sean222:
Wow. Beautifullllll...someone port this PLEASE!!! :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] ezzie:
Can't wait!
[Windows Mobile Themes] jyuken:
the strange looking man figure looks funny lol..

would love to get it for my TP2.. anybody ? muchos gracias
[Windows Mobile Themes] seaman123:
It's awesome. Thanks for sharing. See whether it can works on my Samsung i908.
[Windows Mobile Themes] carbide:
We'd love to have it ported for HTC Diamond/TP running WM6.5 :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] samsho:
i tried ,.. the resolution not same with omnia i900... sad!
[Windows Mobile Themes] shahzade:
The download links don't seem to be working, but it looks very cool
[Windows Mobile Themes] salim1001:
Didnt work on Diamond...

Neat Application....will love to see it working on my Diamond.
[Windows Mobile Themes] yodenso6688:
Dear Pal,

Can you provide another link to download the Yellow man? Mediafire couldn't be accessed in our country.

Thanks a lot.
[Windows Mobile Themes] selim97:
looks very cool!

and yea would love to see it on our vga screens, ofcourse once you guys have got it working on yours.
[Windows Mobile Themes] johnnyv5:
i920

Works for awhile, but after receiving a call, reverts back to old lock screen... Any ideas?

jv
[Windows Mobile Themes] janneman22:
it's seems that worksn't for the diamond 2:(. i hope that it works in future;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mirakle:
From what I've understood, the samsung lock screen is different from the windows default lock screen. That means that we need to have the samsung exe lock screen + a way to run it when the phone is idle + maybe htc g-sensor is behaving differently than the samsung one.

I've seen a thread on modaco where users try to use the samsung lock screen after having flashed a cooked rom. Look for 'enable samsung default lock screen'. Don't know if that helps though. :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Söderström:
Omnia Lockscreen is Flash based. You can run it in your Web browser.

I don't know if HTC has any built in support for SWF files.
[Windows Mobile Themes] hsmcd:
Here you are, direct download for S'skin lock screen pack.
[Windows Mobile Themes] hellepyon:
We can try to install the adobe flash lite 2.1. Now I can swtich on the setting button in the startMeun. But the srceen lock still can't run. >_<
[Windows Mobile Themes] CryptXus:
i tried it on my omina 2 and its very very nice... but then i removed it later coz i realised that when the alarm goes off, the app is cutting of the alarm sound. eg when my alarm goes off, the phone wakes up and only ring 1 sec then got cut off my the lock screen.

in view of that, there is a possiblility that it will cut of reminders from appt also... hence no choice but to revert back to S2U2.
[Windows Mobile Themes] bobbydharrell:
Background

I have this on my Omnia i920 and love it .. I want to know if we can do something like this with the Today Screen backgrounds .. have an interactive background?

And has anyone figured out how to make there own lock screens to go with this?
[Windows Mobile Themes] m0nkeyman:
Cool love the look of this mybe one day It will work on the hd2.
[Windows Mobile Themes] boubou360:
+1

It's doesn't work with the hd2. Is there any chance to have it work with the hd2??

thanks
[Windows Mobile Themes] AdamiX:
It doesn't work on any HTC device :/
[Windows Mobile Themes] lynxxx:
try alternatively Throttlelock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iskiWcHwdfM
[Windows Mobile Themes] nileet1:
didn't work on my LG GM750:mad:
[Windows Mobile Themes] hsmcd:
Thanks for the share. I like this very much! :D

Sorry guys, it seems like it works only in Omnia device so no point trying in other devices. :(
[Hero CDMA General] Lessthantito:
I have searched all through the forums and I can't seem to find an answer to my problem. I have different groups of contacts for Gmail/Google Voice: Family, Friends, Coworkers, Restaurants, Stores etc... for some reason my Family, Friends, and Coworkers groups will not show up in the groups section in my phone, all other groups sync like Restaurants, Stores, and Auto Stores but these 3 main groups will not show up all of my contacts are synced correctly yet these will not, does anyone have any ideas that may help remedy this?
[Hero CDMA General] ljmeli:
Did you try to see if they are set to sync? Go to: People->Groups->"Menu"->Sync groups. Make sure you have said groups selected to sync.

Hopefully it's as easy as that.
[Hero CDMA General] awishstar:
I believe this is a know bug with Google/Gmail... one of the workarounds is create another group like "friends contact"...
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
this is a messed up thing where the preset Google groups don't sync.
[Hero CDMA General] Lessthantito:
thanks guys I figured it had to be some kinda bug all of my other non-preset groups sync with no problem
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cursordroid:
AOSP CursorEclair 0.1 BETA!

I needed to do something between CursorSense32A 1.0 Final and the release of the 2.1 Sense ROM for the Magic, so here goes...

Features:

- Based on Android 2.1 AOSP

- CCR32A-0.4 2.6.27 Kernel and Modules

- Performance Start-up scripts in /etc/init.d

- Compcache (128MB)

- Google Apps and Framework from Nexus One Dump

- Nexus bootscreen (because I like it!)

Not working

- Google Accounts

- camera

- gps

Not included (yet)

- live wallpapers

Requires:

Radio: 6.35.07.29

SPL: 1.76.2007

Guts and brains! (I can't help with this one!)

Radio/SPL update instructions - AT YOUR OWN RISK!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=605239

Very fast, but not working entirely...

I'm still working on it.

Full nandroid backup first. You definitely need to wipe before coming from another ROM, even if it is 2.1 based.

Don't ask me to port this to the older 3.22 32A Radio, or to 32B, because I don't have the time to. (and I don't really want to)

Enjoy!

http://www.theandroidkitchen.com/fileshare/CursorEclair/?download=AOSPCursorEclair-0.1-signed.zip

Oh and by the way, this also runs on the HTC Hero! (Same things work/don't work on Hero)

Understand that this doesn't entirely work yet... Please don't use this if you expect perfection.

Don't send me private messages for support, keep it all in this thread
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eyegor:
Allright, gonna give it a shot NOW!

I hope you can get it fully functioning asap :)

Wow its quite small, almost half the size of CursorSense

You're da man Cursor!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fabioccoelho:
Good work Cursor! You´re Dude!

I rate for you.

:D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eyegor:
From what i can see right now the boot animation is a LOT faster than with cursorsense!!

There is some sluggishness when changing home screens but elsewhere everything is fast.

I'll keep you posted!

EDIT: managed to install astro through adb and get a benchmark running. CPU tests are giving good results.

I tried instally Market via adb and this is the error i get : Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_MISSING_SHARED_LIBRARY]

! Also not working : Network-based location

I'm missing the mobile on/off switch in settings :/
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bunny0007:
Any chance for you to build it with multilang support?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eyegor:
He will most probably add it later on, when he builds a fully functional version.

Patience is a virtue.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cursordroid:
Actually, if I recall correctly, it is multi-language.

I can't check for sure, because my dev phone is at the office.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eyegor:
Yes indeed it is.

German, English, Spanish, French and Italian are included.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bunny0007:
Yep but as you might know mulitlang is much more than that..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shael:
and you dont speak any of those avail. languages?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bunny0007:
I prefer to use my spoken lang there in this case are danish.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] BULL3TPR00F:
Sweet, i dont think im ready to leave cursorsense just yet though lol :(

but this is nice, hope it turns out as amazing as your last one :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mumazz:
Thanks for the great work. Cursor.

Can you include chinese in next version?

Thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Eskibo:
Hey buddy

Cyanogen wrote on his twitter that he reverse engineered the cam drivers for 2.0 and got it working. Perhaps you should have a look into it.

Great job and keep up the good work.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] blesio:
You can use an application which is called More Locale 2, it gives you more language options, even though they are not present in the Language Settings. Check if your language is there, if you set it then you should get your language displayed correctly ;) Most 2.0 and above OS'es are ML already but don't have the choise to select the one you need ;)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hubay520:
Very good, the 2.1 ROM, great! Look perfect! Has been using your ROM!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Xiripiti:
Hi cursordroid,

What a great news... CursorEclair in the house!

I use CursorSense but i can resist to upgrade my ROM to that.

Just 2 question:

- Is there Portuguese Language?!

- Bt works?!

Still the great Work, any help you need...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ralle.gade:
change the kernel?

why not try to see if you can compile the 2.6.29 kernel from lox? i know he got it up running pretty good on hero. :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] snailmale:
tried this for a few minutes, and immediately went back to cursorsense. beyond the nice lock screen, i didnt see anything that was nicer than sense1.5, and was scared off by the FC's. i would love to see a cursorespresso coming out soon tho, i dont see much promise in just pure eclair.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] evilfry:
you have my fullest support.

as soon as it gets more stable, i will change from sense to this!

keep up the good work, appreciate.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] magicdroid:
I vote for CursorEspresso too!.. it's 2.1 with Sense.

Keep up the awesome 32A support!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] wolfshadowkd:
Cool, so quick after CursorSense final. Waiting for your later releases. Thanks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] 5[Strogino]:
Just one for CursorEspresso

But i think, if Hero get official Espresso ROM, we must ask Cursor for port it.

Because, sources of Espresso ROM at this moment have test signs
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eyegor:
Chill out people Cursor said he will work on 2.1 Sense as soon as its out for the magic.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Eskibo:
I would rather have pure Eclaire.

I dont see how Sense is any better... but hey, every man his own taste.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] xzil3d:
Hi! Great work! Will the Fido Roaming bug be fixed for this rom?

Regards
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] DonDizzurp:
ill be back for this ;)..i wont use it until the gps works, though.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] DonDizzurp:
the widgets, man..the widgets..

oh yea, and the dialer, calender, weather app..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] josdehaes:
and the HTC_IME, HTC Music app, ... All a lot better than stock android.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ionhide:
Hey Cursor - Im gonna try and flash this on my second phone so you can get some feedback :-D

Nice to see you working on this, good luck..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] tnbn75:
I kinda feel that stock android is kinda like stock winmo with easy access to apps. sense gives some focus. kinda like drive a cadillac versus a model T. IMO of course.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Eskibo:
Heheh, nice comparison ;).

It's all about need imo. Only widget I ever used in sense, is the twitter and people app. I admit i love the facebook pics to contacts sync tho.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ionhide:
I can see that Google apps doesnt work - But is there an error in my install, cause i dont have the Market app..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cursordroid:
I'm not sure, I'm still playing around with that...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ionhide:
The app itself is not visible at all, i can see under packages that its there.. Very strange :-D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] catalin23x:
[ROM] [32A] Android 1.6

Hi Cursor,

Ur ROM is the best ROM so far. For ur next ROM based on Android 2.0 to work you might want to check the "[ROM] [32A] Android 1.6 Super Stable & Super Fast... [Jan 11TH] [Multi-Language]" thread/ROM. ;)

Good Luck!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hubay520:
hey,man,good job!

When 2.1ROM the full version to come into being. I'm looking forward to!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] blesio:
I am shocked, this ROM is the fastest I've seen, the animations are just perfectly fluid. It's even faster than your CursorSense ;) Keep up the good job, I'm waiting for the G-Apps to start working ;)

I also like the new gallery, too bad it's very, very slow :(