yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] Raspster:
I think it's safe to say that he WAS the first as anybody and everybody that would EVER have this model of this phone in the USA would most DEFINTLY post on this forum as XDA is VERY well know around the world. Aside from that, I just received my HD2 and everything that Kevin has shared with me over PM's and in this thread has been 100% accurate.
[HD2 General] Raspster:
Pics with Dutty's ROM...
[HD2 General] Funk2641:
dude, I never said you didn't have it. But to say you were the absolute first in a country full of 300,000,000 (+,-) people and then not post pics is suspect. Anyone with a little knowledge of cell phones can fake having one.

You need assistance posting photos? Take the pics, upload them to an online account, (photobucet, tinypic) and choose the "insert image" icon (it looks like a landscape), and there you go!
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
I second that. That is a bit steep.[/QUOTE]

+1
[HD2 General] matthewf01:
+1[/QUOTE]

I'd get in on this too.

Negri, a group buy option?

Can't you beat the PersonalDigital price even a LITTLE? I'd rather give you my business instead of buying from the other side of the world, but your prices need to compete!

Make it happen and I'm sure you'd get a ton of sales from this forum.
[HD2 General] fnuna:
Hi, how is going your new toy?

Hi, I see that you changed your Rom. It's everything working well?, how are your SMS sending?, is there any delay? tell us about the 3G speed, can you measure it? Is there any function that is no working with Dutty's?

Ca you make a video for Youtube?
[HD2 General] Raspster:
So far so good. The 3g speeds varry from as high as 1800kb to as low as 400kb. I have not ventured off further from my home which is a newly added 3g area with limited 3g all around my area. The signal is very choppy. Sometimes 4 to 5 bars, then I move 2 to 3 feet with the phone and down to one bar. I have not had any missed calls but again, I have not ventured around yet. MMS and SMS seem to work just fine on at&t. I did have a 2 missed MMS's but I don't beleive its the phone or ROM since I did receive all 3 sent to me today and sent out 2 myself without error today. No delay in SMS as of yet. So far, dutty's is the best. Very close to the stock ROM and more space. The telstra ROM can not even be used on at&t without some major editing on the phone. I have had auto weather updates along with twitter and stocks and they have all performed flawlessly. Also, all my emails have come thru no problem. Sent a few too. I am not using active sync but I do sync with my contacts which worked fine. I will let you all know how the signal part works when I get out of my town. I plan on going to NYC tomorrow so that will be a good test as I will pass a few cities on the way. I want to say that NYC is mainly 850 band for 3g..? We will see. Also, battery life has been up to par with other HD2 users. A full day with moderate use. Also, I will maybe do a youtube this weekend. I will post the link in here when I do it.
[HD2 General] Raspster:
I did confirm that I can't use data while talking on the phone. Maybe a ROM thing. Anyone with euro HD2's using 3g, can you guys use data while talking on the phone?
[HD2 General] tjex:
If you're on Edge you most likely can't. 3G shouldn't be a problem.
[HD2 General] Raspster:
I am using it on 3g.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Hope I finally did this correctly. Promised photos hd2 t9193

I have absolutely no clue if I did this correctly and apologies again if I did not. 3 photos of my hd2 running dutty's rom. Thanks to iseedeadpeople and the other person who offered me advice on this, sorry to the 2nd don't have your user id handy, and hopefully I did it correctly. Kevin
[HD2 General] d.cortez:
if you see the "H" and you're in an area that has strong 850 Mhz 3G coverage you should be able to talk and use data simultaneously. if your data connection drops when you receive/take a call you're more than likely in a weak 850 Mhz 3G area and the phone is switching between 3G and EDGE. this happens to me with my Telstra HD, which only includes the 850 Mhz 3G band.
[HD2 General] Raspster:
You may be right. I know I am in a weak 3g area. (my house) as I am only getting on average 800 to 1200kb. Sometimes dropping to 400kb. I will try iy again tomorrow when I'm in the city which has great 3g coverage. Hope it's not just 1900 3g... LOL
[HD2 General] d.cortez:
@Raspster - i had the EXACT same experience (with my Telstra HD) at my home until at&t added 2 more 850 Mhz towers. from that point forward, it's been a solid "H" signal and virtually no issues talking/surfing simultaneously. i'm sure your HD2 will definitely let you know when you're in a predominately 1900 Mhz 3G area, e.g., Phoenix. :) it's a good thing at&t is continuing to migrate/use more 850 Mhz 3G coverage in the US.

@kevinrirvine - on the Touch HD with a stock Telstra ROM, once i added the at&t connection settings (via a cab file) and modified the registry to allow me to select the at&t connection settings i could connect to at&t. what does your device show in bootloader mode? (it would be nice if you could take a pic and and post a screen shot in this thread, that is, if one doesn't already exist somewhere else). also, thanks for the pics. i'm currently playing with the Nexus 1 and debating whether i should get the HD2 instead or wait for the Diamond 3 on at&t.

@others questioning chiraag's intent (e.g., spam) he is the same "personaldigital" that sold me my Telstra HD and it's my belief he's reaching out to those that want to buy the Telstra HD2 from him. i purchased my Telstra HD using email correspondence vs. ebay. just my 2cents here. that said, i'd purchase from the least expensive seller (negrielectronics or personaldigitial); may the best negotiator win!
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
@cortez,

Happy to comply now that I finally know how to post photos here properly. From memory and I have both devices on my living room table now I am using the latest spl on the touch hd telstra t8285 1.56 from memory and with regard to me saying earlier in the thread not to even both with the telstra rom for nothing works I quess you proved me wrong. I honestly knew it could be done via registry hacking, but am not sure why anyone would even both with the rom for the Aussie market and similar to our beloved AT&T more bloatware than you can shake a fist at. RE your dileman on your next device I can only say I also own the Diamond2, aka Pure Topaz at full price no contract and while I still love the device's size and fell and speed is plenty fat for me I have not touched it in about 4-6 weeks since owning both the uk and now telstra version of the hd2. This device is that solid and really not that heavy and thinner than the i can't say it. Kevin
[HD2 General] jfl:
Is anyone aware of a reliable resource that lists which US areas at&t still uses the 1900 band for 3G?
[HD2 General] Raspster:
Not sure how accurate this is.

http://www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.pl?cc=us&net=b3

Just relized my volume rocker on my HD2 is very loose... sigh...
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
@raspster please check your p.m. and get back to me when time. thanks, k

Best bet in my opinion is to call yes at&t and ask to speak to level 2 or3 tech support, don't even bother with c.s., and they will be able to tell you exactly if you live in an 850 or 1900 area or a combination thereof. or www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer Thanks, Kevin
[HD2 General] _craven_:
I read at T-Mobile USA website that the US version has different hardware. I think Telstra version should be the same as US version right? If so, can you please post your:

setting tab in Sense - About Phone - Hardware Information

Thank you :D
[HD2 General] Raspster:
Telstra is the same as the euro unlocked version. Sorry.
[HD2 General] _craven_:
Oh I see.. thanks :D
[HD2 General] alexsql:
Is answering the phone call working OK?

I have issue with all Leo cooked roms on my Telstra HD (not HD2) on ATT where it would take the phone from an instant to up to 10-15 seconds to answer the call. The dialer actually shows that call is in progress but the connection is not established, like I said sometimes even for 15 seconds.

I spent many days until I found and extracted Phone Canvas that works from one of the builds, which I have to install every time I flash any of the new roms.

How is your call answering working with Telstra HD2 on ATT and cooked roms?
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Odd. Calls for me have worked just fine over these now past 5 days with no delays incoming and outgoing and like Rich I am using Dutty's Custom HG, V05 ROM. Hope this helps. K
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
More telstra hd2 photos and cortez blackstone 120

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[HD2 General] doubledrake20:
I'm slightly confused with this whole t8585 and t9193 thing .If Telstra is the same as the euro unlocked version, and Telstra can either be hspl'd to make at&t 3g work on it, or have at&t work on telstra as is, does that mean the euro unlocked version can support at&t 3g also? If not, is there any way to make the euro version at&t 3g compatible?
[HD2 General] rjd1:
The comment I believe was mentioned around the specs for memory vs. bands. The Euro does NOT support 850 while Telstra does. No ROM can change the bands to the best of my knowledge.
[HD2 General] doubledrake20:
thanks rjd1, appreciate it.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Absolutely 100% correct still owning both devices though the uk version of mine is selling soon. Simpler way to explain, uk version t8585 quadband, edge for data phone whether on t-mo at&t etc. Telstra 3g, HSDPA on the 850 Band which at&t uses in most Markets and by the end of 2010 all 1900 towers are being converted to 850 which is perfect for all of us who either own the t9193 or will shortly. Kevin
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Direct link to my 7 photos of the telstra hd2 and 2 cortez

http://profile.imageshack.us/user/kevinrirvine

This should give you all a very good idea what to expect when your device shows, what the box looks like, model number, and various photos of Dutty's ROM with SPB Mobile Shell and WM6.5

@cortez,

As promised 2 photos for you of my Blackstone 120 T8285 1st generation in bootloader mode. Enjoy all. Kevin
[HD2 General] fnuna:
Hi Kevin, can you upload some photos of your new T9193 with different screens of Dutty's ROM. What about Artemis ROM, did you test it?. Just wondering (I'm new on this) What if you put the newest official ROM on the T9193? Will it work on AT&T' 3G?
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Sure happy to but won't be for like another 2 hrs. How many screens and what exactly are you looking for? Yes, any rom you want to load onto your device will work providing you go to the rom development thread and hspl your device with Bepe's utility. Just follow the instructions and it is actually quite easy. Yes, tried the official htc updated Leo rom and it works just fine. No, to Artemis for I only use Dutty rom's for the reasons mentioned earlier in the thread. They are very fast, consistent, and very close to the stock htc rom and without alot of crap you will never use. Kevin
[HD2 General] juiceppc:
This whole stupid US band thing is SO annoying. The stupidity behind excluding bands is so anti consumer. I wish HTC would just say screw you ATT we're releasing an ALL band HD2...
[HD2 General] 10332007:
Yes, please. Just put out a quad band 3g phone as well as edge... would make so much more sense. Stupid exclusivity contracts.
[HD2 General] Spike15:
Quad band?

I think you've forgotten that UMTS is even more of a **** show than GSM.

You've got

five

bands to worry about: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100.
[HD2 General] fnuna:
Anyone Youtube videos?

Hi. Have someone made any Youtube video of T9193 on AT&T?

Did you see the specs of the T-Mobile HD2: 1GB Rom, 576 Ram ?????

Look: http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-hd2#tech-specs
[HD2 General] 900SS:
Received my HD2 this morning. Already flashed to MIRI 6.5.XX rom.

working great will have to wait untill later tonight to get everthing set up.
[HD2 General] kweiss10:
hey man hows it going?

i didnt read through all the pages but i was wondering how many gigs or MB's of RAM and ROM did u get with urs?

thanks
[HD2 General] kris:
Just got my HD2 and flashed it with Dutty's ROM. This phone is unbelievable. Now let the tweaking begin!!
[HD2 General] mrmomoman:
Did you order yours through PersonalDigital? What was your source?
[HD2 General] kris:
Yup I ordered from Personal Digital last Monday and received it this morning. Flashed it right out of the box.
[HD2 General] mrmomoman:
Thank you!

I created an account since last week waiting for someone to tell me that they had a good experience with it.

I have been reading the ROM/RAM with T-Mobile but I don't think that the additional specs are worth the T-Mobile lack of 3G coverage and my previous experience. I am sure they are upgrading but they still seem weak in this arena compared to AT&T and Verizon. With the AT&T Unlimited Voice/Data dropping to $69.99 - it doesn't make sense to worry about ROM and if the ROM updates proves to be true that the RAM is unlocked then it only sweetens the difference.

Okay new iphone 3Gs going on craigs list/ebay. I think I will keep my Touch HD for backup. :)

Are Unlocked Bolds(9000) worth much? :)

Thank you once again for the quick answer. Enjoy your new mini-computer with a phone feature. haha
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Okay people more people slowly getting device now.post your thoughts.

Hi Kevin again. Rich and I being the first 2 with this device have answered all of your many questions now it is time for the other's ho received theirs last Friday or today to start posting your thoughts in general, what rom your using etc.

fyi, there are appear to be many questions about who to buy from and I find this mildly amusing for you have only 4 choices now so take your pick. P.D., Ryan Negri, and 2 other Aussie seller's I know nothing about yet have 100% feedback on eBay so take your pick. However, I think it is safe to say that 90% have bought theirs from Personal Digital and if it were me I would do this the main reason among other's FED EX INT'L PRIORITY SHIPPING 2-3 B.DAYS. Just do it you will all love this device. Kevin
[HD2 General] JuBond:
I'll chime in for Personal Digital. Received mine this morning by 10:30am, flashed it with Miri 6.5 ROM, kept stock Telstra radio. Its been working great all day, and there doesn't seem to be any SMS issues. I've received roughly 10 and sent out around 15... they've all been received on time. Very happy with the purchase... its scary how much bigger the screen is compared to my Xperia X1...
[HD2 General] lude219:
I just got my Telstra HD2 this morning also. Unlike my Euro HD2 (currently on sale), I can't seem to get GSM (850+1900)+UMTS(850). The best I could do is GSM(1900)+GSM(850). Anyone on AT&T know if a different radio would extract other band frequencies?
[HD2 General] stillbrad:
WRONG...I was the first. Got mine back on the 18th of Dec. Had it on att since i was an iphone 3gs user...now on tmobile...and is soooooo sick. Didnt feel the need to brag that I was the first...until now.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
whatever and i was not braggiing just excited. There is a difference. Good for you now go back to where you came from.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Sadly, there is no other setting no matter what radio you try. Have used a few and the Telstra is still the best for our device. The simple reason why: NO 1900 UMTS SUPPORT FOR THE PHONE. The best setting is wcdma and for the band auto. It will perform as it should. Hope this helps. K
[HD2 General] eighty1:
Hey KevinIrvine

I guess you were serious about the T9193, huh? Im still debating on waiting on the Tmo version or to dive in and go for this one. What do you think? You still have the T8285 I sold you?
[HD2 General] lude219:
I already know it doesn't have 1900UMTS. I was inferring about the GSM side of things. The HD2 is a quadband GSM, that's why I was curious as to why I couldn't find GSM(850+1900) in the band frequency selection.
[HD2 General] JuBond:
Leave the settings on auto and you will be fine. I flashed a t8585 rom onto my t9193, and I don't even get an 850Mhz option for UMTS anymore. Yet, my phone is happily connected to AT&T 3G. The radio will lock onto the strongest band it can find. I honestly don't think those options really do anything. Every time I've tried to set them, the phone always grabs the proper bands off the network once the soft reset happens.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Hey Darrion,

Why not just e-mail ot text me since we know each other. Yes, of course I was serious and have had mine almost one week now. Love it. Yes, to the t8285 use both of them proudly on at&t for have 2 lines of service with them. Can't make that call for you my man for your considering or have already done so going to the dark side and poor 3g coverage t-mo, but my honest opinion is go with the telstra for though it will cost you a few hundred more it is well worth the investment, better coverage, better network, no t-mo logo or crapware and I think you get my point. Take care, Kevin
[HD2 General] Svegetto:
@juiceppc & 10332007

I don't think it's htc's choice or even the carrier's (though carriers do like thir exclusivity). I don't believe that there is a radio frequency chip in existence that supports all the bands so what you're asking for is not possible atm.
[HD2 General] lude219:
The thing with leaving it on Auto is that it drains the battery faster than setting it at a certain frequency. I don't really have a problem with 3G, I'm just perplex as to why I couldn't select a dualband GSM (for voice) like I normally can with my Diamond, HD and my Euro HD2.
[HD2 General] eighty1:
Thanks Kev. Yea thats really my ultimate decision is that ATT 3G coverage is tons better but I have been feeding into the 1GB rom coming on tmo just for specs. LOL! I think I should go with the Telstra brand.
[HD2 General] JuBond:
What rom are you using? Try a different custom one maybe? My guess could be the lack of proper 850Mhz rom options. The Americas (N and S) and AU are the only places I know of that support 850Mhz. We only have one rom for the HD2 that's been built for the market, being the Telstra one that doesn't work with AT&T settings. I wonder if a registry edit could open up 850 for you, I get your point about battery drain.
[HD2 General] Raspster:
Here are my findings with the device so far on at&t with 3g. I live in the northeast (Northern NJ to be exact) and so far, the 3g reception I am getting is pretty good. Many areas of norther NJ have been upgraded to the 850 band 3G so that does help. I still get the same dead spots I would get with any other at&t 3g device but they ARE abit worse with the Telstra HD2. Not too bad thou. I also did get a few errors when trying to make a call when it would say "no coverage in your area" and I clearly had a full signal and was able to get texts and data fine. Tried to make a call 5 times in a row (within a minute) and it finally dialed. Very strange but it only happened once so far. Aside from that, at moy place of work, I never fell bellow full bars. Not once. I was also able to make calls and surf the web on the device at the same time. Now I can live up to the NEW at&t comericals. LOL. Other than that, I did miss 2 calls but I was already on the phone and that sometimes happens on at&t's network no matter what phone you are using. I had a 25 minute call while on the move and did not lose it which is good also. Data speeds have been good. At my job, I was getting on average... 1500kb to 1800kb. Not too bad! The youtube is so nice now if you leave it at high detail settings at those 3g speeds, it looks amazing and loads REAL fast! internet and data have been so sweet with this device on 3g. Very happy now. I hope things stay this way as I venture off my beat path in the weeks to come but I will keep you all posted.
[HD2 General] gb_r32:
Have you tried installing "Advanced Config Tool V3.3.3" Under "Phone" settings you can turn thr band selection menu on or off.
[HD2 General] bimori:
Finally got my Telstra HD today..I ordered on thurday from personal digital...extremely fast shipping I must say. So far so good. I popped my at&t sim in and it gave me the H signal right of the bat with full bars. I flashed miri's 6.5.x rom and its money. So far so good!!
[HD2 General] 10332007:
I dont know of one either, thats why I would go for a quad with the most popular frequencies used around the world. Leaves T-mo USA out with its weird up / down on the 17 / 2100. Would be nice if they could settle on 4 frequencies and make a standard like edge.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
@jubond and lude219,

Actually, I was proven partially incorrect here with regard to the telstra rom being completely unusable for apparently, go back several pages to cotezi 2 posts wherein he was able to use the telstra rom on his Blackstone 120 via a cab file for the internet settings and tweaking or hacking the registry. I will send him a p.m. on this threads behalf and hopefully he will reply me and tell me how it is done and if successful, hey I am curious now, I will post photos later today and outline the steps to do this. K
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
going well dude. sorry did not reply you earlier get questions all the time. ram, 448mb, flash, 512 mb, storage, 219.08 mb with dutty's rom.
[HD2 General] fnuna:
Rom Comparision

Does anyone hsve seen a comparision between the different Roms available for the HD2? I know this is a matter of test and fail, but someone has to do this to easy the life for others. I want to know which is the closest to the original, what functions works well and what doesn't, which is more responsive and fast, a video and perfomabce test would be ok.

How about a Youtube video?

Thanks
[HD2 General] tongphan:
Kevin which Dutty roms did you use
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
His latest unless he has updated again which he does frequently with his hd2. Dutty's HG V.05 Rom date, 1-24. you need to register at www.htcpedia.com to download his rom's but it is pretty easy.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
I just checked again and his latest now one day later, aka 1-25 is version 1.3. However, You can't download now for I tried and they are having server issues. Should be fixed soon hopefully.
[HD2 General] tongphan:
thanks Kevin
[HD2 General] bimori:
Has anyone with the Telstra version flashed a different radio other than the one that came with the phone??
[HD2 General] d.cortez:
guys, attached is the at&t cab settings file that i believed i used to add at&t Internet & MMS connection settings. once installed, soft reset, and test your connection. it's been close to a year since i used this, not to mention going through 2 different laptops since then. i apologize that i cannot offer more than this for now. you may also need to install another cab called sdkcerts.cab first. you should be able to find that via google/bing. i believe i also had to remove the proxy setting in the registry; it was set to Telstra or at&t (Cingular)... as always, you assume the risk for trying this!
[HD2 General] mikron15:
Hello,

Any T9193 users facing the body defects issue pointed out in this and this threads?

After reading both threads , i'm scared to drop $900 for a ****ty built phone. Hopeully by now, the t9193 has less defects.