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[HD2 General] mmbika:
I did it to be on 11n network with maximum speed being 270 MBPS and falling up to 162 to 150 MBPS while file transfet or data exchange was initiated.

You will ask how I verified and did this.

(1) I enabled n-only mode on my Asus USB-N adapter on one of my laptops (VAIO VGN-TT17GN where I disabled in-built Intel 5100 Pro as in-biuit Intel WiFi doensn't support initiation or existance of 11n softAP mode although it can connect to 11n networks in a client mode, so I had to buy external USB 11n adapter) which also supports softAP (virtual wi-fi mode) by doing registry hacks so it operates in 11n mode only, be AP or ad-hoc.

(2) I created softAP (using WIndows 7) which was 11n only.

(3) I had forced another computer (HP Envy 15) to be 11n only which has intel 6200 B/G/N doing registry hacks, so it is also forced to 11n mode only.

(3) I started softAP on my VAIO VGN-TT17GN on Asus USB-N13J and than connected second laptop (i.t. Envy 15) to it and it was 270 MBPS, so 11n)

(4) I had enabled 11n on HD2. Now I connected HD2 to this 11n softAP while HP Envy 15 conencted to the same softAP. it connected and my network on Envy 15 remained at 270 MBPS.

(5) Whenever I did data transfer it droped to 150 to 162 MBPS which anyway always happened whever there was data transfer earlier too, because I had alrady set-up 11n softAP long ago to achieve 11n speeds between home computers. I have no router and I don't need any as I can run 11n AP network from one of my laptops. And it does 2.6 GB file transferred in about 6 to 7 minutes!

(6) Although if you write or transfer from storage card on HD2, it will be limited to HD2's processing power as well as SD cards aboilty to write and read so it is a sort of hardware limitation which you won't find between two core i5 or i7 compters on the same network, it goes at balzzing speed!

(7) In above setup, when you have done network shares, you will find them lightning fast on HD2, i.e you click and whole shared networked folders will be there in a zippy moment, so it is really fast on 11n.

My only issue (not related to 11n) is I am not able to directly open or run those shared network's files but first HD2 needs it to be copied to HD2. I do not understand why but I am missing something and searching anyway. I am just 2 days into HD2, but long time WM user since WM 2003 SE days.

Hope this helps clear doubts about 11n capabilities of HD2.

Still need to achieve is get clients (i.e other computers) to achieve 11n speeds while we setup HD2 in server mode (be it Wi-Fi Router or any adhoc network we creat on HD2) and connect other computers to this HD2's network, it falls to 54 MBPS on client laptops. HD2 brodcasts in 11n mode and network mode is shown as 11n, but on client computers, it drops to standard 54 MBPS, so more work to do here. But for the time being, atleast HD2 can join 11n networks in 11n mode!

I haven't read entire thread or post (just in page 4 ) so excuse me if this had already been done.
[HD2 General] lorezz:
what about the bcm4329b1 file....is a .hcd file....can it be a Driver?is the first time that i see this strange kind of file....
[HD2 General] Javadn:
Good Job !!

WoW ! This Is Just Too Cool !!!

+1 here !!!:D
[HD2 General] prabhg:
Awesome!! This may lead to something really nice!!!!!:D

Another +1 here
[HD2 General] Fame123:
noob question:

Does this actually work with the htc hd2 now?

Has anyone tried it yet and got it working properly?

thanks
[HD2 General] lorezz:
actually doesn't work,the only certain thing is that the transmitter exist,but we miss drivers....
[HD2 General] Nixeus:
Hope this project will be complete soon :)
[HD2 General] Fame123:
HI lorezz

thanks for reply

Hope someone does get it working in the very near future.

This will be a big one for the hd2.

Thumbs up for completation of this. Keep up the good work
[HD2 General] Nixeus:
Have you ried to ask somes informations about HTC ???

Maybe thay can give somes informations...datasheets,etc...
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
There is no project. No one is working on it. If we want it done we need to find a developer to work on it. It would be great, but I don't think it will happen.... there's not enough interest and no one is trying to get it done.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
it needs very hard work ,and there is more hot topics taking the interest of developers now
[HD2 General] ra9na:
I've contacted HTC... no chance on getting information... =(

I also contacted Broadcomm, but without NDA you won't get any specs...
[HD2 General] fowl2:
Do any of the Android phones have transmit capability we could examine drivers for?
[HD2 General] Ryan_G:
This would be so incredible if this does work.
[HD2 General] cu2cool:
iwould donate for a finished product.
[HD2 General] DN41:
sorry that i cant help, my experiences doesnt seem strong for that :P

but sounds very interesting ;)

think a donation could be done by me :P

DN41
[HD2 General] StePPB:
Count me in for some heavy donating ;)
[HD2 General] kabuk1:
I wish I could help, cause this would be AMAZING to have. I would be willing to donate/pay for the finished app also.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Unfortunately... if it was going to happen, it would have started already.
[HD2 General] ra9na:
You need to stay calm...

I will get my device this week. If I find some time, I will look into this issue by myself and try to find a solution :)!

I also want that FM Transmitter enabled!
[HD2 General] pabloenmieres:
hi

hi all i dont have so much idea of this things but if the chip is able to receive fm radio and transmit as here says:

**w.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329

the driver of the chip could be in the fm aplication? or on our phone? probably an expert could get it out and see the code and change it to be able to transmit..

it would be great to have a fm transmitter on our HD2

have anyone tried to contact broadcom?

PD:sorry for my bad english
[HD2 General] snear:
same here, im hoping you guys get this working on hd2 so maybe we can on desire!:eek:
[HD2 General] timalpipo:
subscribing too
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
can any one confirm this the hd2 802.11 n speed cannot exceed 65 mb/sec tranfere rate due to limitation in antenna technology
[HD2 General] da_gluck:
What's about FM Transmitter Driver?
[HD2 General] ra9na:
The HD2 has only one antenna. That makes it SISO, which limits the bandwith to 150 MBit/s. I don't know, where you got the 65MB/s from...

If you have one, the post it here =) ! Or what are you asking?

Come on guys... Somebody has an CSP account at Broadcom for sure! Is it so hard to get some documentation from there?
[HD2 General] Dr4g0n:
this sounds great, i would spend some money for a working FM transmitter witin the HD2 =)

come on guys :P

the nokia n900 is open source and have a fm transmitter onboard, mybee it will help.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
thank you all for support
[HD2 General] TaxiarchisGR:
Could somebody open his phone and search for this chip? I think there is someone who done it and he has uploaded his photos. It's very interesting...
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i think it is hard to do it you will lose your warranty and can you upload these photos to let us sure of the existance of the chip
[HD2 General] br3nt:
subscribed also... here's some pics

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=582652
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
thanks for the nice pics but i couldnot know the chip tybe as he covers allot of readings

it is confirmed that the hd2 has broadcom chip but we want to know which one
[HD2 General] Tung_meister:
has anyone actually properly tested to see if the HD2 has wireless-n support? i'd do it myself but i don't have an n router.
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
Actually, when using the wireless router with the N-hack enabled, it does show up as an P2P N-network on the laptop (when connecting to the phone).

So it does identify itself as such.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
does it means that the hd2 has a real wifi n support excuse me i also don't has wireless n router & did you noticed big difference in transfere rate
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
I'll test how it works if my router is set to N-only.

Also see if the signal improves or not with the N hack enabled.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Wireless-n is working fine. Some people have reported a massive range improvement when using it, but unless your internet connection is over 54Mbps then you won't see a speed improvement, so no-one has commented on this yet.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
thanks i wish all people are responsive like you to let us continue this thread without being forgotten until we find an answer
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
have you tested it on a wifi n only network as some routers have both a,b,g&n
[HD2 General] Archer:
I haven't tested it at all - I don't have a wireless-n router. I was just letting you know what I'd read from others.

Anyway, since someone reported getting about a 50m range, I think we can safely rule out anything other than n.
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
I will test it today. I will also try downloading a test-file from a fast server to test if it really goes above G-speeds (my internet speed is 60Mbit/s, G only reaches +/- 24Mbit/s of that speed). So it should be faster.
[HD2 General] harddisk_wp:
FIFTY METERS with a pocket device?! Holy **** dude, this is amazing. It of course requires a proper router with min. 3 differently angled, hi-gain antennae so that the orientation of the HD2 in space doesnt affect signal quality (look up in your physics school book the radiation characteristics of a dipole antenna to see why.). I could indeed imagine one of those uber-big FritzBox DSL routers could be capable of supporting that feat.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
good but i want to tell you something before testing sometimes internet connection doesnot acces at full speed to be sure you need to try transfere test with any type of file explorers any way try what you could do and tell us
[HD2 General] Tanmay®:
Interesting indeed! There are quite a few people out there who have opened up their HD2. It shouldn't be long till we get to know the exact ModelNo of the Broadcom chip the HD2 uses.

Lets hope for the best!
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
some one told me in htc pedia forum that he heared that it is (bcm4325 ) but i dont think so as it is old chip and doesnot support wireless n type so he is absolutly wrong and he didnot opened any device by him self he took this informations from other forum
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
One thing is sure; it is able to connect to N-type networks.

My router set to N only accepts N connections and my phone can connect but all my other clients (still G) were dropped and could not connect anymore.

My router shows a rate of 65Mbit. So it has to be N.

Internet speed test is indeed impossible; Internet Explorer kind of crashes when I try to test it and Opera does not show the speed; the router says it's utilizing ~12Mbit/s, but I assume this is limited due to the OS/programs running.

Range when using N only is indeed better; SNR of 18 while using multi mode on router, once switched to N-only it has a SNR of 25 (20% versus 33%). Please note there is a layer of concrete floor between my wireless router and my room while testing this.

So there shouldn't be any doubt; this phone should have N, else there is no way it should be able to connect to my N-only operating router.
[HD2 General] azahoth:
this would be an amazing "tweak"

+1rep - the force is strong in you :)
[HD2 General] ra9na:
The N900 has a totally different IC for FM radio. That makes all of its libraries and drivers USELESS for the HD2 and all other handsets with BCM4329.
[HD2 General] Serpantes:
Hi guys, so how is it going? some new progress? I would pay too for working FM Transmitter
[HD2 General] The_Jack:
New info

Hi,

I just found this info in case just do no know it.

If you have it or know it. Sorry for double the info.

Best regards
[HD2 General] ASCIIker:
lol! dude, read that link carefully and you will notice that the reference link at the bottom of the article points to THIS thread...lol!
[HD2 General] harddisk_wp:
well the press copy-steals from this thread, we copy-steal from 'em
[HD2 General] ra9na:
Bad news!

I've contacted Broadcom about this issue and this is their reply:

So no FM Transmitter for HD2 :-( !
[HD2 General] Serpantes:
Ok, so no built-in FM transmitter.... let's move a little bit forward... let's pick some alternative. I have found these on ebay:

1. Ebay item number 320433266037 > Wireless FM Transmitter + Car Charger for iPod/MP3 ... small gadget with 3,5 Jack, 2AAA battery or Car charger operated

2. Ebay item number 230495197113 > CAR CHARGER+FM TRANSMITTER CAR KIT FOR IPOD NANO MP3/4 ... car charger with built-in FM transmitter, 1 USB female + 1 3,5 Jack...

Which one would you pick?

Do someone have experience with any of these?

Thanks for reply and sorry for bad english
[HD2 General] paradox2313:
Nexus one same chip - same problem!

I am currently looking for manuals, commands etc...

People using the nexus one also want to use the fm transmitter, they even dont have the normal radio function.

maybe it can be poerted from android to windows mobile if they find out how to do it!

Here' s a link I found:

chip bcm4329 source code driver api

h**p://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/broadcom.git;a=commit;h=f427424c414886903e4ad654c143c8ce6ec10e3c
[HD2 General] Drhalux:
Fm

I would realy like to have this FM transmitter on my phone. I looked all the external FM transmitter on ebay, but they dont have charging feature. since audio jack is right next to usb which we use to charge on tmobile hd2 it is not useful to have transmitter that does not charge and transmits signal.

If some one can do this app, i will definity donate/pay it.
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[HD2 General] fabler:
It would be good to have this feature. But so far nobody got success to enable it. Does HTC desire kernel has this feature?
[HD2 General] nrfitchett4:
might want to ask on the desire thread (not the hd2 thread).
[HD2 General] fabler:
Yup.. okay.. sorry.
[HD2 General] anhyeuemmaimai:
I'd just go with a motorola T505, I have one and it works like a champ with the HD2

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...=aps&hvadid=3122379131&ref=pd_sl_7r05zr5y30_b

$55bux or less including shipping
[HD2 General] GulDucat:
Sorry for my ignorance as I am relatively new to the HD2 world. If it has an internal FM antenna then why is it always asking for the headphones to be plugged in when using the radio feature? It won't turn the radio on without it. Am I missing a tweak or mod?

Also, I was under the impression that Wireless-N was already implemented since there's a .cab floating around that enables it (or so I thought).

Lastly, what is the significance of this thread (not being sarcastic), is there some potential new features as a result of these new discoveries with this chip?

One feature I would really like to see available is a bit more robust wifi sharing where WPA/WPA2 is fully supported with the ability to broadcast or not broadcast the SSID as well as a truly customizable key that is not just a 10 digit number but allows alpha and numeric strings.

That's just my wish list. :D I'll crawl back under my rock now...:rolleyes:
[HD2 General] metko:
im confused now there is or there isnt a fm transmitter in hd2?
[HD2 General] H2D2:
There isn't.
[HD2 General] slayerns:
wasn't it similar for n1. people said that n1 doesn't have necessary components but they got fm receiver working on n1. similar might be true for hd2 fm transmitter. broadcom is right about the necessity for the right components but they don't know whether htc did the connections or not?

so how is the development going?
[HD2 General] Sam2k:
Nice of them to reply, but that's not very clear.

Looking at the chip schematic, there is only a single antenna (for both FM Rx & Tx) shown & not any additional connections to other circuits. This makes sense as being the 'additional components' that Broadcom allude to. I can't imagine it needing much else, except maybe a signal amplifier. But that doesn't seem to be indicated on the diagram.

I might be wrong, (there is a limit to my electronics knowledge), but radio receivers are so simple (and transmitters only slightly less so) that I expect it's all on the chip except for the antenna (which could probably never be put on a chip due to the laws of physics!) & that's taken care of by the headphones. Infact, outside of software, I doubt HTC could have totally blocked the Tx function whilst keeping the Rx. 8-)
[HD2 General] ivo1st:
Thanks to everyone involved for this great support!

I saw (not with a saw :D) the diagrams of BCM4329 and I think that the radio part is embedded in the chip (as it is written - "Combo device"). If I'm not mistaken everything is controlled using I2C/UART and I think it could be a driver restriction/limitation.

EDIT:

The file rtecdc.bin in \Windows directory looks like the firmware for this BCM4329 chip. There is another file called "rtecdc1.bin" and it is different in size. Maybe we should look there.

I understand that the work is still in progress in that directions! Keep up the good work.
[HD2 General] mrlanrat:
I just wanted to say that the HTC Incredible has the BCM4329 chip too. It looks as if you guys are making more progress than our thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=707343

I hope something comes of it.
[HD2 General] hd2k10:
Haven't heard anything about this in awhile, any updates?
[HD2 General] Sam2k:
BCM4329 in more phones.

It seems that the Evo 4G uses the same chip and can have 'n' Wi-Fi according to http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC-Evo-4G-Teardown/2979/2

So Evo developers (and maybe Desire HD too) may be a source of useful info and collaboration.

The camera also looks to be very similar to the HD2's one so it may be possible to upgrade to 8Mp as someone wondered elsewhere. But I haven't seen a pic with it removed from the board, much less seen one in the flesh to compare them.
[HD2 General] whiplash000:
Time to revive a dead thread!

Here's something that may nudge you guys in the right direction... if MIUI's team can get the FM reciever working from scratch on their ASOP rom, then we can do the same with the transmitter! The deciding factor as to whether this feature will ever show up in the next ASOP rom will be developer interest.

Anyway, let's all assume that the FM antenna coming out of the BCM4329 is bi-directional and get cracking!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8785136&postcount=52

I'll be looking into this over the next few days. Someone should go onto the MIUI forums (need to speak Chinese, obviously) and see what their ideas are.
[HD2 General] red_hanks:
interesting...
[HD2 General] Axel85:
really interesting
[HD2 General] perrycostello:
well guy's anynews? id love a fm transmitter in my hd2 wp7 :)
[HD2 General] Hunain:
Interesting ... hoping to see a .cab / .apk file soon
[HD2 General] bv_abhi:
Requesting devs to produce an apk for fm transmiter
[HD2 General] motoi_bogdan:
If there is still support for this idea i can try to help with the electronics point of view for this experiment (hd2 motherboard tests, hacks etc) .

I can also check the output of the BCM4329 to see if we have the specific components needed for FM emissions. These should be bypassed when the chip is doing reception so the switching mechanism and it's implementation should be there.
[HD2 General] Rygielsiu:
I am looking forward to this idea!
[HD2 General] snear:
Would pay for a app that activates the transmitter.
[HD2 General] backlashsid:
Abandoned ??
[HD2 General] TheNT:
pitty...

there is interest for this for sure...

noone believe it would be done so noone write anymore...
[HD2 General] esquinas74:
How is you project?

Sorry for the translation.
[HD2 General] unlocksmith:
still waiting
[HD2 General] TPNolan224:
This is a app I would be willing to throw money at.

A few bits of info I think may prove helpful.

If i recall correctly there are two different versions of the BCM4329 chipset, one that has MIMO support and one that doesn't. (Not sure how relevant that is)

IIRC The LG chocolate 3 and N900 are two phones that have FM transmitting capability.

(Im pretty sure that the N900 has FM TX)

They both have different chipsets than most android phones but a lot of the lines of code used might be helpful as a guide tool.

The nexus 1 also uses the BCM4329 chipset and its also found on many other android phones.
[HD2 General] Gagins:
Wow that will bi nice.

I am supporting this idea!
[HD2 General] fabler:
I think the project is dead.
[HD2 General] BMXJeff:
?

Surprised nobody's on this.....

I would pay for an app
[HD2 General] jaujcik:
42 pages, and at the End noting :(

pleas ...
[HD2 General] beshox:
maybe htc dint bay certificate from baradcome for fm transmitter support

to get chip for low price maybe :D
[HD2 General] JMG01:
How do I enable 802.11N?

(in Android)
[HD2 General] kriskovski:
Any move?

Does any1 doing anything?
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
just because it has a chip doesnt mean its functional it could simply be left out.

for instance, the Touch Pro had video out, with the same chipset inside its younger brother does not, its physically not enabled.

Wifi N is enabled because its has the hardware, FM transmitter is not

THink of it another way, why would HTC pay good money for hardware then disable it, it would make a great selling point, yes their are some examples of things getting a free upgrade but these are few and far between, its more likely that they purchased in bulk a number of chipsets and then was left with left overs.
[HD2 General] Axel85:
I found this app...quick fm transmitter,from sharp is01 is02 is03 and is05.You can use it only in sharp devices but maybe it s helpfull for dev ( it really hard to find).Those are the only android devices with fm transmission enabled and with an app to use it.Sadly I don t understand if one of those devices had the bcm4329 built in
[HD2 General] prashant70242:
This will be really helpfull bro....
[HD2 General] Axel85:
Is there anyone with the knowledge to modify the apk to not check if the phone is a sharp "is series"?
[HD2 General] leo321:
I had an hd2 until my touchscreen quit working... This would've been awesome to have! I hope you guys get it to work!
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
Have you even found proof that it has the hardware?
[HD2 General] davibs:
No news? :(
[HD2 General] BMXJeff:
Every cloud has a silver lining...

It's a shame we'll probably never have an FM enabled HD2 but look on the bright side, FM radio is full of nothing but shyte music, HTC are probably doing us a favour!

[I speak on behalf of the UK]
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
Fm radio works fine, his talking about fm transmitter. Still waiting on someone proving it has The hardware.
[HD2 General] XIPRELAY2010:
Sorry i know this is over a month old, but i just wanted to say i would also purchase or put money down to anyone who got this working. Especially on the HD2 or N1.
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
I say again, there is no proof it has the hardware
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
that is a good news
[HD2 General] Tung_meister:
based on the broadcom chips available the op should be correct in what he says, as there isn't a chip available that supports n without fm transmission. It was previously thought that the hd2 had the Broadcom 4325 chip but as it has been pretty much proven that it has wireless-n support it must have the fm transmission with the BCM4329.
[HD2 General] harddisk_wp:
now some dude just has to get access to the docs and write sum proper driver...
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
so we need to make this post sticky to allow every one to see it and not to be forgotten please moderators lisiten to us
[HD2 General] compact_bijou:
+1 .. subscribed