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[Nexus One General] mirox3m:
It is similar to what happened with Avatar movie. They started talking that the sales for the first weekend are very weak and it is a fail movie etc, but without considering that it is 3D and cinemas where you can watch it are much less.
[Nexus One General] ScaredyCat:
To be honest you shouldn't trust Google. They're a corporation and while they may not be doing anything now, who knows what the future will bring.

or more simply ask yourself this

Would you trust Microsoft?

Would you trust Apple

Would you trust Yahoo

Would you trust Me?

If the answer to any of those are yes then I have a proposal for you involving a rich relative who needs to get 76 million USD out of a country. All I'll need are your bank details DOB and SSN.

SC
[Nexus One General] dallastx:
And you trust Apple or Microsoft or let go as far and say your BANK? ..If you trust any corporation then your screwed. That doesntt mean to live in a box and start being paranoid. Also some are saying the price is high. A flip phone will cost you 250-350 from the store no contract and that's 1990's technology!
[Nexus One General] Wobblebonk:
There is nothing wrong with the Polar Clock other than it doesn't come with a color pallet selected. Mine has not had 3g or dust issue so far as I have been able to tell but I don't deny it has been a problem for some.

Also it is not really analogous to the Avatar release at all. By weak opening weekend do you really mean the highest grossing original ip (non sequel/established franchise) opening weekend gross ever? I somehow doubt the N1 is going to have magically turned out to have sold hundreds of thousands of units its first week in secret.
[Nexus One General] ScaredyCat:
Actually the problem is that either of the dynamic Polar Clock palettes will cause a force close. You can use it, provided you don't use one of those.

SC
[Nexus One General] conduct:
It's really too bad that this thread has been derailed by lunatic ramblings. This "Nexus sales fail" is getting reported all over the place, on the basis of Flurry's analysis - and that analysis appears to be so paper-thin that it is badly in need of its own analysis.

From what I can tell, the only information about Nexus One sales which Flurry has is based on the following:

Some Android apps incorporate Flurry's "analytics and monetization platform". I would seriously question just how many applications on Android actually do this, and how significant they are in terms of userbase.

"Flurry Analytics places a lightweight agent into an application, so that performance data are tracked, logged and reported back for analysis."

Said agent no doubt reports phone hardware/OS/etc.

Somehow, Flurry claims to have presence on "four out of every five iPhone and Android handsets in the market", a dubious claim to be sure - especially in the case of Android.

From this they have magically extrapolated sales numbers which loads of clueless tech press wonks are now reporting as fact, often including other widely reported nonsense (like "no support for multi-touch", or the Telegraph's depressingly stupid claim that "the late release of the Developers’ Kit for the Android 2.1 software that powers Nexus One means that many Apps don’t yet work properly with the new handset").

Propaganda to be sure. Flurry admits that this isn't even close to "apples to apples" even if their numbers are accurate, but they know full well how this will play out in the press. Not to mention that it's just irresponsible to represent the limited data their crapware platform provides as being able to reliably determine hardware sales figures.

The sheer amount of FUD and disinformation coming out about the N1 since release is staggering - haven't seen anything like it in years. I really wish Goog would get out in front of this and counter it with their own numbers, which I feel pretty safe in assuming are better than 20K in the first week.
[Nexus One General] grandmasterethel:
iPhone Sales

In the statistics, they are comparing the 1st gen N1 sales against the 3rd gen iPhone's sales. Of course the iPhone 3gs will rape the N1 in terms of sales, simply because they have built up a loyal (brainwashed?) user base for the last 2 and a half years.

I have been looking for, but have not yet found the sales stats for the iPhone 2g in it's first week. Is it likely to be much higher? I think probably not.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
And those two palettes are supposedly the best looking ones...
[Nexus One General] ScaredyCat:
I've never seen them.. it force closes on me ;)
[Nexus One General] ~~Tito~~:
Referring to all the websites that bash and people who don't think ahead

How can people expect this thing to have blazing sales if there where no advertisements, commercials, and in a retail store? That's a stupid comparison as well like someone said, comparing to the 3GS? People are just trying to lick apples balls to the core so apple will still pay them. :rolleyes: Of course thaaat was sarcasm.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Having a hard time finding it.

Id wager it was much higher though.

Even the MyTouch sold 60,000 its first week.

After looking around Ive come to the conclusion only the Nexus One first week sales were worth talking about.

Cant find 2g sales.

Pre is anywhere from 70-150k

G1 anywhere from 400 -500 k.

If the unHyped mytouch can sell 60 k Im sure a Nexus One people could actually hold in a store would sell close to that .

The pictures dont do it justice. Alot of pics make it look goldish or bronze (yuck).

Feeling is believing ?
[Nexus One General] wagz:
I guess Gmail must also be fail as well as google search too. Gmail was distributed to only a select few, then they gradually increased invites and word of mouth spread quickly over the years. So I'd say first week numbers were pretty weak for gmail, but I don't think anyone can say Gmail is fail now.

Google search came out when the dominant players were guys like excite, yahoo, Altavista, etc. So first week numbers were pretty low then too I bet. But now their search with weak first week numbers has become so dominant (by word of mouth) that it coined a new word in our everyday English lingo. Can Apple, Microsoft, etc. really say that? So fail I guess.

Apple fanboys are so threatened that people won't look on them with envy anymore, but the problem is that no one looked at them that way to begin with. :) Someone should let them know. Just rename it to iSuck already :)

~Bryan
[Nexus One General] mark925:
The comparison is really no more than an Apple fanboy circlejerk.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
I think we spent too much on this phone to let some random yahoo touch our device just so they can copy us.:p
[Nexus One General] hurrycaine3000:
agreed....
[Nexus One General] thegoshem:
I just wanted to say that i bought my nexus on january 5th, received it on the 6th. I was off work until the 8th... went in to work on the 8th and two of my co-workers played around with my nexus... next thing i know they're printing out their receipts.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
That's what I'm saying... yeah, as others have pointed out, we've dropped some coin on these phones. But that doesn't preclude us from letting our friends play with them a bit. I'd probably let a stranger play with it a little... as long as the phone was safe.
[Nexus One General] t-mizzle:
I predicted poor sales the same day it was launched. Full discount for new customers only pissed off many potential buyers as it was a 1st restriction to be imposed on t-mobile customers, online only sale didn't help either.

If they insisted on restricting it to new customers only, they could have at least put links on t-mobile's page. And at least ship demo units to t-mobile stores, maybe even only dummy units since they insisted on killing their own sales.

I still don't know why in hell they didn't add 3G for at&t as well. It would help sell it a lot more. Maybe it was a condition dictated by Verizon when they were negotiating the deal, supposedly back in September?

I would be encouraged to expect a price reduction because of the poor sales but they will not reduce it before it hits Verizon, if they cut prices at all. I'm curious to see if Google will change their approach, even slightly when it starts selling for Verizon.

The average US consumer doesn't like to buy unlocked phones at full price.

I'm actually considering buying it unlocked. And I'm noticing that I'm weighing my options a lot more now than I used to and I expect a lot from a phone I pay fo up front. It's a business, first and foremost. Selling the most phones is the goal, you don't launch a high end phone to be a niche market. The thing about having a good selling phone has been missed by Google.

I consider myself to be an average user, like the vast majority. In this economy I'm willing to wait. There just aren't enough differences between old and new phones to justify buying a new one without really thinking it through. So I might end waiting a while and that doesn't play into Google's favor. I might even wait until the summer. And since Google is pushing towards buying unlocked, I might even wait and see if the next iphone has 3G on T-Mobile. I'm betting Apple is, at the very least, intrigued by Goggle's multi carrier launch.

Everybody has phones. When you break it down, all 2-3 year old phones cover the basic functions just like the new ones. So you need to stand out with both features and subsidy to sell many.

T-mobile needs a real Android phone badly. One that will sell at ~$200 with a unrestricted subsidy. Right now, the best phone in that range is the mytouch crap.

BTW, the test units (the ones with the android logo on the battery cover) also had the polar clock bug and an email bug. Both were fixed with the 2nd OTA update that was pushed at the end of December. The stock phone OTA updates will probably be delayed to address issues users are reporting now.
[Nexus One General] BigDamHero:
Has no one noticed that this 20,000 figure is complete guess work…? Seriously its fiction.

Its not an official figure from Google or anything, its from a research company Flurry. As I understand it, its based on some module that SOME developers put in the code of their applications which SOME people will download. Most of these apps don’t work with the N1 yet. I’m sorry but that’s not an actual source of information. That’s guess work.

Until Google release the actual figures I’m releasing my own estimate with a similar amount of credibility to Flurry. 1,000,000,000,000 were sold in the first hour. Spread the word.

See here for Flurry admitting that the figures are a "significant underestimate" http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/809110-google-nexus-one-superphone-sales-figures-not-so-super
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] bigdaddy67:
I have been posting and been redirected to links that are ne help.

So to make this easier for me and you. I will pay 100 bucks to whoever solves my issue.

The problem - I have tried and tried to install the SPL on my phone and I get get errors, usb disconnects or the phone just hangs and nothing happens (and yes my phone is unlocked via the unlock kings)

End Result - to be on of the cool kids and upgrade my T-mobile touch pro 2 to 6.5 or what everever cool rom you suggest.

I am over this cloak and dagger stuff. I will pay 100 bucks to who takes my case. PLEEEEEEAAAAASE.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Zylograth:
Stop posting everywhere and read this, download the leaked official TMO upgrade from the link in my sig, you will not need hardSPL as this is an official upgrade from T-Mobile.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] xawen:
Can you post some detail about the problems you're seeing and the processes you've tried?

Some helpful information would be:

What OS is the computer you're running the SPL installer on?

Step by step, how did you attempt the SPL install? When and how did it fail? What were the errors (if any)?

I know when I did the SPL install, I had a driver problem on my XP computer. It was an easy fix, but not something obvious.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] black_mobility:
Have you tried the enabler .cab?

http://hpcmonex.net/roms/enablerapinew.cab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
Simple, fill out a support ticket for the HardSPL unlocker (here) explaining your situation, any and all error messages, and everything you've tried so far. Olipro/cmonex should hopefully get back to you soon. They know a lot more about HardSPL and the unlocker than anyone else considering they designed and made it, so they should be able to solve your problem easily.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] l3it3r:
Man you guys are way too nice... $100 is a nice chunk towards your next phones... lol ;) j/k!! Good looking out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Zylograth:
My first post fixed the issue and claimed the prize, might as well close the thread LOL

Thanks again for the hundie :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Scalage:
You'll be a very poor man (or woman) in no time if you give away a 100 bucks every time you have a problem :D
[General Questions and Answers] elbratness:
Wen a rom installed in my phone does not support my faves doeas that mean that any calls to those people I previously had registered before rooting will be charged?
[General Questions and Answers] Rudegar:
when you flash a rom all settings will be removed contacts, call log, files the works
[General Questions and Answers] elbratness:
thank you rudegar but i still don`t understand does that mean that my faves feature is no longer active in my acc
[General Questions and Answers] stylez:
As far as aware it's t-mo who hold the details via your account so any calls to the no.'s will still be under your MyFaves plan.
[General Questions and Answers] elbratness:
thank you for that!

so this whole concern about my faves i`ve been reading is for the display of my faves on your phone i can live without it.
[General Questions and Answers] happycollin26:
Is it possible to edit this message's picture?

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=267377&stc=1&d=1263405494
[General Questions and Answers] Rudegar:
most if such images and program icons too are hardcoded in resources dll's and require one to use a hex editor to change and in made cases require a custom rom to replace the original dll with the wrong picture
[General Questions and Answers] happycollin26:
I remember reading somewhere its possible to change it. Hell, the new Wisbar adv. beta changes them!
[P3400 General] ank707:
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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Doinshots:
This is my first review, so I hope it doesn't suck.

Both my wife and I have the Tilt 2. I decided to go with InvisibleShield while she wanted a case. After looking at all the comments here about cases not fitting, I decided to go with 2 different ones from Amazon. One fit horribly, so i wont even mention it.

She is using the Tilt2 Praetorian Slip and she loves it. Installation was a little tough as the fit is pretty precise. I suggest installing the top (screen) side first and then the bottom (keyboard). Install both with the KB extended. I have attached pics of the fit.

The only complaint I have (she thinks of it as a feature) is that the cover makes it a little more difficult to slide out the keyboard. She like it because it used to slide open in her purse (mostly because of the fact that she keeps it in an inside pocket of her purse which causes it to hit just right against crap she has in another pocket). Overall, this is a pretty nice cover. I am sure you can get it cheaper than amazon, but I had gift certificates to spend :)

Hope this helps!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] laurenmac:
Thanks for the review! I bought the same case a few months ago, although it was advertised as for the Verizon Touch Pro 2. I was unaware they made one for the Tilt 2. Now I won't have to worry about it falling off randomly!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] xredjokerx:
thsi case probably wouldnt work with invisible shield on too huh :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] JJHiemenz:
Neat.. glad yours fit. I ordered one for the Tilt2 from Amazon as well, and Boxwave sent one labeled 'Touch Pro 2'. I see yours doesn't have a cutout area for the PTT button either, do you have issues with that? My praetorian case would almost always trigger the PTT button whenever I handled the phone.

The top/screen portion of my Praetorian didn't fit right and opening and closing the top was almost impossible - even ended up ripping off the protective plastic along one side of the keyboard. (the protective plastic that is designed to be there, not the temporary stuff it whipped with) I can see just by looking at your pictures that your screen portion fits waay better than mine did.

When I contacted Boxwave about the issues, no questions asked and they sent a postage paid label for the return. I'd love to try this case again, as I did like the feel of it, but nervous about another no-fit. I went with BodyGuardz instead.. not sure I'm happy with those..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] orb3000:
Thanks,

I´ll include it on the main thread

:)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=524059
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Doinshots:
Man, sorry you had so many issues. The PTT button is indeed covered, but she has had no issues with it at all (hers is remapped to toggle bluetooth on and off). The fit on the screen portion is *very* tight. Took some effort to get it installed properly.

Also, mine definitely said "Tilt 2" on the packaging.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] sleze:
It is disappointing that it covers the PTT button. I assume your wife has abandoned that function (easily switching BT on/off)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] azwildcat98:
Thanks for posting reviews on this case -- I'm trying to decide what route to take to give my new Tilt 2 some added protection, and more importantly, cut down on the slickness/smudge magnet-ness of the shiny battery cover (which is my #1 gripe with the GSM TP2, both CDMA versions have rubberized covers which won't fit their GSM siblings due to the placement of the 3.5 mm jack).

I really wish someone made a rubberized battery cover to replace the shiny OEM one. These snap on type cases are okay, but they become a major pain as soon as you need to pop off the battery cover in order to flash a new ROM (as I do often), reset the device, or swap out memory cards. I worry trying to snap-in and pry off these cases frequently will damage the phone -- especially when it's a super snug fit. IMHO, a rubberized battery cover, along with perhaps the upper portion of this case to protect the chrome bezel from getting nicked would be an ideal solution! I may just go down to Home Depot this weekend and see if they have a spray that can rubberize plastic, then I might just buy a spare OEM battery cover and see if I can rubberize it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Doinshots:
Nope, the PTT button still works perfectly under the cover. Does not get accidentally pressed and is responsive when you push it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] chompx2:
Sounds like skinning/shielding your phone with GadgetShieldz might be the way to go. The GadgetShieldz does take a little time to install but it works. The protective film on the screen is easy to install and bubble free. It makes the phone non-slippery. It would not protect the phone like a case but it does prevent scratches. When installed, it adds very little weight and dimension to the phone.

Actually, there are other protective films/shields but I only have experience with GadgetShieldZ. It might work for you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] BluEyedTiger:
Boxwave Praetorian Crystal Slip for Tilt 2

Just to report on this, I got one of these in the mail yesterday. So far I love it. It wasn't terribly difficult to get on. It fits very well too. My only real complaint is that it doesn't accommodate the PTT button that the Tilt 2 has right next to the volume buttons. It's not a big issue since I don't use PTT and the case doesn't prohibit using the key anyway.

Just be careful and make sure you order the one that specifically says it's for the Tilt 2. They make other models. I know they have the Praetorian on eBay but to be safe I opted to get mine directly from Boxwave. I got what I ordered too and could have used they're return policy if I needed.

Oh...I'll be happy to post pics if anyone wants but I think someone already put some up of this one a Tilt2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] BluEyedTiger:
I wish I'd seen your post sooner! Home Depot and Lowe's does indeed have something like that. I'm sure lots of hardware stores do. It's called Plasti-Dip. I have a can right here :) You can buy it as spray-on or dip/brush-on applications. I use it on mountain bike parts and tools for extra grip. I'm not positive how well it will stick to a slick plastic surface but it is an option.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] BehindTheLight:
Hey man, I'm thinking about ordering this case and I wanted to see if you still like it and how it has held up over the past month. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Learic:
I ordered one from BoxWave and I think I'm still going to shop around for something else. It seems like the Tilt2 has less options than the other variations of the Rhodium so people may just be settling for this due to "Slim Pickin's."

I like the way the gel gives more texture and grip to the phone, but I still feel uneasy because it's definitely not a snug fit. The part that covers the screen section of the phone is very flimsy and after you get it on, you want to keep checking it to make sure that it is attached; it feels like it can easily slip off at any time. This is specifically evident when you slide your screen up and tilt it. Tap the top right, or the middle section that really has no grip around the phone, and it might just pop off...

I still have it on my phone because it is the lesser of two evils, have something vs. not having something, but are there any other options for the Tilt2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] BluEyedTiger:
It's held up quiet nice...even with as much flashing I do (have to remove the bottom piece every time). I've figured out a great way to put it back on that's really fast and easy. Some people say it's difficult to get on. I think the top piece is the hard part but I've taken it off a few times and have no issues there either. It still fits good. If I remember, next time I take it off I'll shoot some pics of how I put it on and upload them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] BluEyedTiger:
I haven't really had any trouble with mine popping off. It took a bit to get the top on right and it was a pretty snug fit too. Getting the corner edges all the way tucked under was the hardest part. I'm guessing it's a manufacturing thing. Some say it's a tight fit and other say it's loose. I will agree that the sides on the top piece are flimsy because they're not attached the the phone but if they were it would probably make matters worse by either rubbing against the bottom piece or creating too big of a gap between the two parts of the phone.

I agree there aren't many options for the Tilt 2 and I hate to say it but there probably won't be.