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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] AverageCanadian:
Hmmmm looks like cursordroid going to get a lot more fans.

I'm currently on Dwang's Rom, but I don't really want to loose root.

edit: Nevermind, I got a dream as well. Crapple guess I'll have to apply the stupid update even though I don't have the 911 issue.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] CalvinW:
Actually if I can get out of my contract over this it might end up being a blessing in disguise.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shael:
not a bad idea :cool:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ma678:
I won't update until tomorrow, either.

Just called CS@Fido and got confirmed that Fido scans our handsets by IMEI. Once Fido detects it's Dream/Magic, it blocks Internet service until updating software.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daeshawn:
lol good luck I called and blasted them yesterday (just before the update was released) spent an hr on the phone with them and only ended up with a free LG EVE plus a mth credit. Blah i'll just give it to my wife. On another note.....Just got off the phone with them again (tech) and dude said he THINKS its a "Must be equal to or greater than (build number wise) for the internet interruption no to occur" He said there is a system that does a sweep to find out who has the correct build number. What he said is just wait until sunday, if my net works after that then dont worry. If not then update and then go back to 1.6 a week after (yeah right and lose root?) imma just wait for hotwiess or jsut flash cursor's rogers update ! lol just some more useless rogers info for y'all
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Rebellion_CA:
Everyone,

Here is a quote from another site containing the legalities and it looks like they have the right based on the contracts you all signed.

"Before throwing out terms like "breech of contract" let me ask, have you actually read your contract and TOS? From your above statements I'd suspect no. Read sections 22, 25 and 32. They specifically give Rogers the ability to disable some or all services, at their discretion, if they can demonstrate a critical need to do so.

If you'd like to read the TOS with the above sections highlighted here you go:

TOS_Eng_new2.pdf"

Other than that I have been told by FIDO my internet will be disabled if I do not update and will not be turned back on.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fatcow167:
anyone on fido network that has updated the new software and getting Roaming?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Thesniperz:
what IF we turn off our phone for a couple of hours before the said "cutting of our internet connection" and turn it on again after a couple of hours...

EDIT: ah, nvm. i think it will still get disabled when it tries to connect to the network..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] smlt:
That's exactly what I'm getting at. Their excuse is the "safety of their customers". Anyone running 1.6+ shouldn't need their "update". There is no critical need to cut ME (or anyone running 1.6+) off from our internet
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] SpaceBoy2000:
So...uh...what's preventing us from just modding our build.prop? Will that even work? I don't know much about ROM cooking, but if all they're doing is checking your build.prop, then it shouldn't be too hard for us to spoof it, right?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jfive74:
Can someone who upgraded post the new spl and radio please so I can check for possible rooting procedure? Thanks.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dotster:
Roaming on Fido

Regarding the "R" indicator while on the Fido network: My b/f and I got G1's from Google at the same time (Dec '08) and he was on Fido.

I remember him complaining about the "R" showing up all the time, whereas it worked fine for me on Rogers. Fyi, he was never charged for roaming, it was the software.

I doubled checked with him today and it says "E" for Edge, not "R".

So I will assume that it probably disappeared after I had applied an updated ROM (either 1.5, or the current 1.6 version).

The update that Rogers sent out probably still has that error in it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bcrook:
Everyone: Don't use the update thing from Rogers, you are better off using CursorSense 1.2

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=592856

This gives you a better ROM with the correct build number and an engineering SPL
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cursordroid:
Thanks for the props Brian!

Keep in mind though that you can't install CursorSense on top of a perfected 1.76.0007 SPL, it has to be the 1.76.2007 SPL. Check the radio/SPL upgrade instructions in my signature block. :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] TwystNeko:
Last night, I upgraded to the new rom. But with a different method - one of the threads here details part of the method. This gives me a 1.76.2007 hboot (eng), recovery-RA-hero-v1.5.2.img, and everything else from the rogers rom.

Quick overview:

boot phone into fastboot

start the Rogers Update Utility

follow the wizard until it starts searching for the phone - unplug the phone, and do a search in your temp folders on your computer for rom.zip (11,094 kb) and rom1.zip (91,664 kb). Copy to your desktop.

Open rom.zip, you want:

Radio_Signed_Sapphire_63.18.55.06K_6.35.10.18.img

now, close the RUU wizard, you don't need it.

Plug phone back in, and use fastboot:

fastboot flash hboot hboot-1.76.2007.img
fastboot flash radio Radio_Signed_Sapphire_63.18.55.06K_6.35.10.18.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-hero-v1.5.2.img
fastboot erase system -w
fastboot reboot-bootloader

Check to make sure you've got the right hboot and radio.

now, open up rom1.zip. You need boot.img, system.img, and userdata.img

fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot reboot

The phone will now reboot, and you will be on the stock Rogers rom, with an Engineering SPL, and the latest recovery.

All that's left is waiting for a rooted boot.img - which is minor, just a matter of time!

and since you people are all OMG MUST GIVE CREDIT RAWRGH, please assume it's all done, I just can't be bothered to dig up the threads to find the names. Although I'm pretty sure cursordroid was one of them. :P
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fatcow167:
baseband version : 63.18.55.06KU_6.35.10.18

Kernel version: 2.6.27-5b476e83

build: 3.05.631.7 CL#118917 releaes-keys

Hboot spl: 1.76.0010 (sapp50000)

radio: 6.35.10.18
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] George Dobrev:
windows 7

To be able to install the update thru Windows 7, Rogers sent me 2 files.

Here is a copy of their e-mail:

Please save it on PC and mount USB save it on SD card

link that points to this file: HTC_Magic_Update_File1.zip

link that points to this file: HTC_Magic_Update_File2.zip

Both zip files contain one file each - SAPPIMG.zip - same name

Just copying the ZIP's to SD card as instructed did nothing.

Any advice on how to upgrade

Will hate to call Rogers third time in a day.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreckis604:
can u provide the download location for those 2 zip files?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] George Dobrev:
I would if the moderator lets me post URLs.

Here is the description.

rogers dot com / magic-zip1

rogers dot com / magic-zip2
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreckis604:
okay whats the directions they gave u? i will try to update now
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jonney5:
Fido roaming

Did you manage to figure this out ? I to am running on Fido with my magic and after the update it will not stop roaming..

Even with network set to Fido and the APN set to internet.fido.ca and the MMS set to mms.fido.ca
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mbk.2k3:
you went from a 1.6 CM ROM to this new Rogers ROM?

can you simply follow the instructions provided with the upgrade (HTC's site) and downgrade from 1.6 to 1.5 or do I need to do something different?

Thanks.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] George Dobrev:
Sent you a PM with the latest instructions I got from Rogers.

Worked just fine for me.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mbk.2k3:
can you send me these instructions as well? what ROM were you using prior to the update?

windows 7

htc magic with CM's 1.6 ROM.

do i just wipe and apply the update using the instructions or do something else?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] itsawrap:
I got it to install on Windows 7 by installing HTC Sync first, then running RUU_Sapphire_Rogers_WWE_3.05.631.7_R_release_signed_NoDriver.exe

It wouldn't find the phone without installing htc sync. Also make sure USB debugging is turned off in the phone settings.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] stillriza:
No. I originally had stock rom, but rooted and made a nandroid backup. I then went to latest HOFO build but could not update. Rather than flash to a ver 1.xx Hofo rom, I simply Reverted back (using nandroid restore) to my rooted stock rom and simply used the download provided at HTC site.

Also, Rooted hofo ver 1.xx roms have been confirmed the download at htc site works fine for them. check out Howardforums for more details.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreckis604:
ok i did the update from hofo rom using some directions rogers rep gave me in the email! anyone need it pm me?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fatcow167:
I've ask people at fido stores, they say that it happens to some unlock phones.

because rogers and fido share same network and our phone is rogers SPL so it keep pointing to rogers.

I've put my sim card into an HTC diamond and HTC Touch from rogers I also get the roaming symbol....

but my GF been using fido sim in her diamound and did not get charge roaming.

but anyone else have any idea?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fatcow167:
I flash the rogers rom from CM4.2.13 without unrooting.... CM is running 1.6
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Nighte:
Hey everyone, it's my first post, been a long time visitor, never bothered to register, but finally did it haha

But with regards to this whole Rogers issue, anyone know if there would be any problems if I upgraded directly from the GyD ROM to this new Rogers patch/upgrade? Or do I have to go through some complicated process..? :confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shael:
if im not mistaken u must unroot first
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eyegor:
You need to go through a complicated process if you want to get it without the perfect SPL :) ... Kidding its not really complicated. Refer to CursorDroids thread on how to get 6.35 radio and 1.76.2007 SPL and flash his CursorSense 1.2.0. It has the rogers fix included.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mikeovi:
You yelled at Rogers and got a free LG EVe??? sweeeet lol
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] George Dobrev:
HEre is the e-mail from rogers less the pictures:

Requirements:

• Rogers Magic

• Battery Level of 50% or more. Do not start upgrade if battery level less than 50%

• MicroSD card formatted in FAT32, please note cards formatted in FAT will not work.

Installing the Update via MicroSD Card:

Part1

The first part will prepare the device for the actual update but will not upgrade the Operating System, the upgrade itself will be performed in Part2.

1) Download the HTC_Magic_Update_File1.zip and extract the file within, SAPPIMG.zip to the root of the memory card in this form, do not extract it’s contents and please do not change the file name.

2) Backup your personal data: All personal data (contacts, applications, photos, bookmarks, etc) stored on the device will be lost after the update process. There are also 3rd party applications on Android Market place to back up your applications and personal data.

3) Power off the device.

4) Remove the existing microSD card from your device (if there is one already installed), press in on the microSD Card to eject it and then remove it from the slot.

Insert the microSD card with the SAPPIMG.zip on it in the microSD slot, slide it into the slot until you feel a “click”.

5) Press and hold the Volume Down Button and the Power buttons until the display turns white.

6) The update will begin installing, please follow any onscreen instructions, press the trackball when prompted to press “Action”

7. Once the update is complete, “Press Action to Complete” will be displayed on the screen, press the TrackBall for the device to reboot and complete the first part of the upgrade process.

8. Power off the device to prepare for the step 2 below.

Part 2

Upgrading the device.

1) Delete the SAPPIMG.zip from the microSD card

2) Download the HTC_Magic_Update_File2.zip and extract the file within, SAPPIMG.zip to the root of the memory card in this form, do not extract it’s contents. Please do not change the file name.

3) Follow the same instructions as in Part 1 - step 3 TO 8.

4) Delete the SAPPIMG.zip file from the card.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] albaboi123:
So i'm prepping up to take the "plung" into this new update.

I got stock stuff ,rooted, running 2.0.1 (sobs)

1) whats the best way to apply this update? Is Cursordroid way the best?

2) i've been reading the forums and i hear that i may have to unroot...is this right?

any help will be appreciated guys.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] axels2009:
TwystNeko,

could you upload these files somewhere?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eyegor:
You don't need to unroot.

Follow Cursors guide, it is the best.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Dave778:
update to cursordroid 1.2.0. its the latest rogers rom rooted & hacked just how we like em. If it works out great for u then donate ta the man. Hes been right on top of it day in day out
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mikeovi:
i seriously wanna know how they check the build number...

im currently running Super D 1.4, and my Build number is "ahmgskmod_32A build" LOL
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eyegor:
I really wanna know that too lol....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Howler62:
I looked on the rogers site and did not see these two files.. only the ruu file.. kinda need this as i cant get my phone recognized on windows 7 for some reason
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] George Dobrev:
Check podts141 h 143
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bernZ:
The reason you can't see those files is because the RUU extracts them out and pushes to the phone automatically. RUU places these files in a temp directory on extraction, but does not send the items over till you've clicked on some terms and agreements.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Teletran:
Windows 7 recognizes my phone.

The drivers I used are here:

http://www.htc.com/www/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=852&news_id=487
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kassemalaa:
rooting...

hi, i upgraded yesterday and so far so good, the rom is very fast and optimized (except some fc's) but one thing is bugging me, is there a way to root this rom? or is someone working on it? i want to be able to install apps like the overclock widget and root manager, thanks and keep up the good work!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fatcow167:
Is there away to tether without rooting?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Thesniperz:
yup.. read here: http://lifehacker.com/5447347/how-to-tether-your-android-phone
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] MoreYummy:
How do you backup everything in the phone before loading this ROM from rogers?

I mean exactly everything.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cursordroid:
I would like to make sure all of you are aware that you can avoid the Rogers ROM update and go straight to the same ROM, rooted with some enhancements.

Check out CursorSense32A, right here on XDA. Version 1.2.0 and later includes the 911 fix and to the best of my knowledge will not be blocked from internet access after the Rogers cutoff.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=592856
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mbk.2k3:
if you are constantly using google services, then your email, calendar, contacts, etc will be backed up all the time. we you re-sync next time, it'll work nicely.

the only thing you'll manually need to back up are sms messages, and notes and application specific information. also any contacts you saved on the phone (as opposed to the google cloud).

to back up sms messages and what not there are applications in the market that allow you to do that. i don't know names, as i've never done that myself.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] icepixie:
i downloaded a trial version of mybackup pro from the developer's website. trying it now as we speak. you're able to backup sms/mms/bookmarks/home screen/settings,etc.

reviews for that app seem very favourable.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shael:
best app :).....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mikeovi:
I'm getting an Error [170] for some reason when I run the RUU....

what am i doing wrong?

i never had this error before.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mbk.2k3:
thank you george for sharing the instructions. this will really help windows 7 users who were having trouble updating their devices.

to summarize, this is a different method (using microSD card) for updating your htc magic on rogers using two files provided on their website. the files are located at:

http://www.rogers.com/magic-zip1

http://www.rogers.com/magic-zip2

i just completed the upgrade from cyanogen .13 (based off 1.6).

everythings looking smooth so far.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] agriff:
I flashed Hofo v227 before the update and was fine. Started off on latest Cyanogenmod. I think you'd be ok with anything in the 2's. Sense versions start with v3..

BTW, wish I hadn't flashed the update now. Stuck without root. Hopefully a solution soon.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shankara:
No, you don't have to unroot. I just did the update without unrooting
[HTC Excalibur] youngdaddytc:
first, here's the goal of this thread: to keep the display on without timing out and locking out.

my problem is that no matter what, i cannot keep the display on when sitting idle, for more than 15 minutes. i use my phone as an mp3 player, which hooks up to my car stereo and also charges through the cigarette lighter. pretty sweet deal, except that regardless of the power management settings, if implaying songs and dont touch it, it will timeout after 15 minutes. this creates problems when trying to drive. i'd like to just grab it and hit the button to play the next song, instead i have to put in the code to unlock it, then bring up the program which is still running of course, and then hit the next button for the next song.

point being, im sure there's a way to keep the display on and prevent it from going idle on me right? i mean, how can it be idle when im using it to play music?

same thing happens when plugged into computer, or any other external power source besides cigarette lighter ie. wall charger.

excalibur, 3vo series 6.5 112509, using htc audio manager (but does it with any program even windows media player)

any help would be much appreciated.
[HTC Excalibur] dermann:
you said that you have to unlock it to change songs, have you played with the Automatic Keylock settings? sounds like that could be why your phone locks itself after 15 mins.
[HTC Excalibur] youngdaddytc:
yeah that's not the problem. auto keylock in UI Tweaks is already disabled
[HTC Excalibur] youngdaddytc:
wow well i feel stupid, it was in the security settings. lol, guess that ends that mystery. at least i didn't have someone tell me. thread can probably be deleted now as it's unnecessary.
[HTC Excalibur] sherifrasheed:
adjust your security settings
[G1 Android Development] Shaquiel Harris:
Here they are just released from my knowledge at http://developer.htc.com

If you guys already had them and this is old news or if these are useless to dream user please delete devs. I just thought this may help with these new hero roms coming out sorry if im wrong :o
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
Well, it'd make more sense to post this in Tattoo and Hero forums, wouldn't it? These kernels have nothing to do with the Dream.
[G1 Android Development] vettejock99:
I would think this could be helpful here - lots of Hero ports, question is more about proprietary addon code than kernel I think though. Wish we could get Hero BT on G1....
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ViperAMD:
Ive tried searching and googling but I cannot find the best dedicated Music app for the HTC touch pro.

Any help would be fantastic. thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] 8525Smart:
Personally, my favorite app to play audio is TCPMP. It is lightweight, but highly customizable. It is the only app I know that allows you to control playback speed (something I like).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kamikaze458:
i ve a wired headset w/all the playing buttons (play-stop,pause,vol+-,etc) and it only works with windows media playe. At least without making some reg changes.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jaszek:
I use Nitrogen. It's one of my favorites.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] somepeon:
I use HTC Audio Manager. It looks clean and it recognizes the playlists I created in Win Media Player.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] chaoscreater:
the best has to be Pocket Music hands down, it has way more features and options than any of the above and i know coz i've used all of them, Pocket Music lets you customize it heaps and it includes radio FM and tons of equalizers, playlists and skins etc, it's awesome.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] merovigiam:
me too

I am also searching for a better audio player. The windows media player that come with my room is a big brick of SH*T. I hate it, while playing, the music stop when end, and looks like the phone is dead. Too slow.

Coreplayer is good, but dont have much options and crashes.

The one i am using now is Pocket music player, but it also have a lot of bugs and CRASHES too, at least have so many options, and its a lot flexible. and thats what i want, but there is a delay when changing music ( i dont know why, is this configurable?) that i really dont like.

any one knows something better than Pocked music?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] wqew1117:
how about S2P?

It's my favorite APP with WM6.5 HTC Touch Pro...:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ribcage:
I like Nitrogen too. It has nice looking skins and I like using the sleep timer.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dgaud007:
I like Conduits Pocket Player better. Check it out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] SergiusGee:
My vote goes to S2P - combined with S2U2 it is absolutely perfect

I'm missing some features though like playlists or viewing some additional info (bitrate etc.)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] 12gage:
I like s2p for music and pocket player for podcasts, PP has a great bookmarking feature that alot of others don't have
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] rbncha:
I like windows media player mobile. Coz it supports my audio adapter hardware buttons. But I miss the sleep/close/pause timer on it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] patrick_spd4u:
PocketMusic in Hermes 2 months ago, now TouchFLO Music Tab

I had used PocketMusic on my Dopod 838 Pro (HTC Hermes)..

It has features I need :

Sleep Timer

Playlist

Control playing with Hardware buttons even when minimized (like in Nokia XpressMusic)

Bass Boost

Now, I'm using the built-in TouchFLO 3D 2.1 dedicated Music Tab on my HTC Touch Pro..

Now, I need a player with PocketMusic features that can replace the Music Tab (because I love the integration), also better if it has integration with S2U2

S2P hides the taskbar, right?
[Hero CDMA General] creacher:
Is anyone using Gumbo 1.5?
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
HAHAHA I got so excited when I saw this I thought somone got us a new ROM.

I used it and got a bunch of FC's and that location wouldn't update.

Went back to fresh.
[Hero CDMA General] 98classic:
i use it when im not on 1.6 runs smooth
[Hero CDMA General] johndoehizzle:
any info on this rom?..looked it up,found the site/forum its on...not sure if we're allowed to post links to outside sites...
[Hero CDMA General] creacher:
I have been running it. runs smooth and hasn't been laggy. Most other roms have been laggy for me. I haven't seen any threads on it so i thought i would ask.