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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bgsitizen:
I agree that the TP2 is a pain but its what I like about it.. To be honest sometimes Ive run into very stable ROMs for each one of the WM devices Ive owned and havent had to mess with them for a long time untill one day I realize that Im bored out of my mind as the damn thing isnt acting up in any way.. Well that pisses me off lol. Its like having BBerry or Android phone.. Ive owned both and after a month I got rid of them going back to my Kaiser every time even though its screen wasnt as nice and i love nice screens. Even that couldnt make me switch. Having a nice WM phone and modding it is like having a new phone every week. I love modding so therefore those OSs arent for me not to mention noone should tell me what i can or cannot do to my phone haha. I had a RAZR that was way more moddable than a BBerry not to even mention my Linux powered ROKR E2 which i had overclocked to 520mhz for everyday use.. So yeah I right there with most of you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sirphunkee:
Wow...I can't believe it never struck me to use it like that, but that's great, I love it! One minor issue though...call me dumb but how do you get the screen to revert to portrait when you've got the keyboard open and tilted...? I've got TF3D on the gsensor list but the open keyboard seems to override that for me...what am I missing?

Once I get it working right, I can see this is how I'm gonna be using it darn near all the time! This will take away 49.9% of the pain of losing my beloved Wizard and it's dpad :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
If any of the "bye bye touch pro 2" boys want to trade unbranded Rhodium for a Topaz let me know:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
I do it manually, using Rhodium Keyboard Controller. One long press of the windows key rotates it to portrait, 3 presses rotates it another 180* if I decide to go left-handed (which would involve remapping other keys -- RKC allows you to do this on a per-program basis, so my arrows in my ereading app act normally everywhere else).

I haven't looked into how to disable the keyboard's little rotate on open item, but I'm sure there's a registry entry if you use it this way repetitively enough to get annoyed by having to manually revert each time. I typically open it and keep it that way for extended periods, so I don't have to manually trigger portrait very many times.

This didn't occur to me before I bought my TP2, or else I would have been even more eager to get it. I just kind of happened on it will toying around, and I find it to be a extremely comfortable to use this way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sirphunkee:
BRILLIANT! :eek:

(oh...yeah...duh. I should have thought of that)

lol thanks man, that's working great now, I have it set like you suggested, except I use long- and triple-press on the "P" key to do the same.

Now I just need to figure out how to get the arrows to remap just whenever it's in portrait mode and it will be PERFECT!! lol I love this :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Do you have any recommendation to get the best left handed remapping?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SlimJ87D:
I really want an android based phone with sense.

I'm wondering how my insurance works, if I can break it and then get an android phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bmw2320:
I love Winmo and HTC. Honestly speaking, without HTC I won't be as fond as it now to WinMo. Have been using HTC for 5 years and don't like other yet :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
My right thumb falls right on the arrow keys, so I assumed it would be most comfortable to use keys on the mirror side -- but it didn't turn out that way. My left thumb actually falls more comfortably on the C button, so for reading (the only place I bother to have a left-handed setup -- in case I get tired of holding TP2 with my right hand) I have C in an app-specific remap to the down arrow key and F to up (for those purposes, up and down are all I need). Obviously, YMMV.

My recommendation is to hold the device left-handed, and see what range feels most comfortable, I imagine it will be a little different for each person depending on their hands in terms of both size and dexterity. (hopefully I interpreted your question correctly)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Yes,, thanks a lot mate:)

I´ll do some more tests.

Still looking for a perfecto config for left handed:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jach707:
I really like my phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jach707:
give the Android developers some time, they will get a full working version to run on our phones. then you will have winmo and android on your phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fuzzysig:
hey guys cool down.

i didnt say i absolutely hate the phone

i hate the fact that it is not designed properly to work smoothly out of the box

the OS is too damn heavy and the processor cant handle the OS

good point on the weak cpu NOT!!! its the main part of the phone cpu is the heart.

and guess what guys

to all you blackberry haters

i havent restarted my phone once in last 3 weeks

never froze on me, never had any bugs never had to reconnect to email server like i did with HTC.

blackberry email server goes down? ok when it goes down then we"ll talk

htc email connection went down on me every day hows that for a great phone...

i found a way to work around the limitations with few tweaks and free apps.

do i miss anything from HTC? yes the big screen but nothing else

i call this phone "HTC barely pass" the whole format is really useless

it looks great in theory but as far as the usability its umm not so much

is it a minimicro laptop or is it a phone on crack that pretends to be a laptop...

either way its too big for a phone and too small for a personal computer...

now when the new HTC touch pro 3 comes out and its thinner and has capacitive touch screen, camera flash,faster CPU and maybe a trackpad then ill be allover it

like i said i have used HD2 for few minutes and that phone owns blackberry.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] l3it3r:
lol... you had that many issues and you blamed it on the phone? You deserve that blackberry.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] aleksandar0475:
TP2 is state of the art...

Windows Mobile is not for everyone,nor is HTC.

HTC Touch Pro 2 is remarkable device. State of the art.

Using it for a while already,and have no complaints whatsoever.

Running stock,unbranded HTC WM 6.5

Regards,

Alex.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
:confused: I've seen threads about the weather that were more heated than this one.

If people were any cooler, they'd be in cryostasis. Were you hoping for fireworks?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] daguila:
So how is that trackpad working on your Blackberry? HAHAHAHAHA

Like ppl are saying here, you do deserve a blackberry. Why are you on this forum here anyway?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fuzzysig:
lol whats that supposed to mean?

trackpad is working great i actually like it better than winmo interface on touch pro2.

its much faster to navigate with that.

can you navigate your google maps and enter search with one hand while driving? and how long does that take you?

can you open your camera and take a quick snapshot while you at the redlight? or any other time you need?

does your email show up instantly and how many times you had to set up your email in order for it to work correctly?

can you even hear people on your speakerphone while in the car? i sure as hell couldnt. but im perfectly happy with the sound and volume of blackberry

can you plug in your headphones and listen to some tunes whenever u want to? oh lol you need that stupid box headphone adapter...

can you take pictures at night? oh wheres that flash?

yea i can watch movies on the phone ok or i can just wait till i get home and watch it in full quality

i can surf the internet? umm not really, the IE freezes all the time
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
Yes. Not long.

Yes.

Yes. Once.

Yes.

I use bluetooth headphones but I do miss the LED from the original Touch Pro. Not for taking pictures, LEDs are useless for that. I like to use it as a flashlight.

You obviously didn't know how to use the Touch Pro 2.

I will give you stability, this thing does need to be restarted more than it should be. Ever since I made my own ROM without the junk though I can go a long time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SlimJ87D:
I'm not going to defend my TP2, it ****ing sucks balls.

Every ROM results in problems 1 week later. Messaging is terrible and lags. Andorid where are you!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] deepthroat:
could not agree for more ...:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Lol!!

That is right:D:D

+1 for this!!!

Rhodium is the best hardware keyboard device ever made!

We just need a better processor on the next series model

I am so happy with Rhodium:cool:

-------So guys please go and vote!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fuzzysig:
thats right for all you blackberry haters. i had it for 6 months and never had to reset the phone. not even a soft reset.

i pulled the battery maybe 5-6 times total due to issues.

and for all the people that keep laughing.

just bought an HD2 and it crashed within first 5 minutes of use,during wifi setup lol

so far my blackberry has been providing extremely stable OS and services such as instant email wifi calling and rest, BUG FREE!!!

which i cant say about windows phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fuzzysig:
oh

just froze again lol great stability there on windws phones...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] XERO_Racer:
why you keep on bumping this thread??? this damn thread has been around since January and yet you reply to your thread to get more people to flame on you, gawd i dont care if Blackberry doesnt freeze up, good for them for making a freaking OS that you can barely do any customization! youre making yourself look more of a fanboy of Blackberry which i could careless but next time(LIKE EVERYONE SAYS) if youre gonna buy a Windows phone or Android OR ANY Phone...DONT BE BI***ING ABOUT IT IF ITS GOT ISSUES, DO SOME RESEARCH! its all about patience, studying and research

bye
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Fazziebear:
Well said, lets all move along now nothing to see here!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fuzzysig:
hmm. i thought it was all about USING your phone for what its meant for(calling, txting, business, movies, documents, wifi, etc u know the features) and not spending weeks looking for a next bug fix or a cooked rom to make your phone be able to make a call without issues...

im sorry but you all got stuck on POTENTIAL and not real performance of windows platform... like a bum saying: oh i live on the street its ok at least i dont pay bills...

i have absolutely no complaints about phone itsself. i wouldnt return to HTC otherwise... but windows SUCKS!!!!!!!!! because it crashes all the time.

im just fkn frustrated that HD2 and touch pro2( great phones) came loaded with this garbage that doesnt work right...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] p51d007:
I've seen some complain of slowness with the TP2...most, not all, I see are result of upgrading to a custom rom, with sense 2.5.

I have a custom rom, that has sense 2.5, but, I prefer titanium.

Could be the slowness is a result of stuffing sense 2.5 on a phone that only has

a 528mhz processor. If I overclock to 728mhz, sense doesn't slow one bit.

I only OC to 652mhz. Titanium is rocket fast, and, save to the text messaging

bug (lag), it's pretty fast. Not as fast as the 1+ghz snapdraggon, but fast

enough until November, when I can get a "cheap" upgrade.

I'm looking at 4 different phones then.

HTC/win7 phone (whichever version at&t has)

Droid X (the dark side..Verizon)

Dell Streak (HUGE screen)

iPhone 4 (yes, now that it can be "legally" LOL unlocked)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
/me stabs fuzzysig for bumping the thread. i hate these types of threads. started with say "i hate every thing about this phone!" just to see people get mad. im ready for a new phone. not because i hate my touch pro 2, i love it, but because its time for a new phone. :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sunneyloves:
I AGREE

Do you think HD2 is better in that respect?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] XERO_Racer:
not real performance? LOLOLOL maybe you havent been looking around, Acer NeoTouch, HTC HD2, LG eXpo all got the snapdragons and youre saying that its not real performance? maybe if you took the time to get a program that takes out all the unnecessary garbage then youll see the true performance, and theres this thing called "Custom ROMs" if you flash one youll be suprised, 99% of the community here dont want bloatware carrier roms but then yet again you just want to be lazy and not deal with bugs, any smartphone you buy will eventually have a bug no matter what, and you get frustrated if it crashes or if theres one little bug?? someone seems to have OCD....if its not a big deal to you dont worry about it and just move on with life, pretty much if i catch a bug, i report and wait on next release of a rom and wouldnt be long from them, you seem to not have any patience for Windows, dont expect ANY OS to be a perfect build
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rr5678:
derp. A battery pull is a soft reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fuzzysig:
ye one battery pull a month i can deal with that.

i just spent 2 hours trying to make a fn call from my HD2 lol

you calling this normal?

seriously guys you need to try using a phone that works and then come back to winmo

and if you read carefully i didnt say the phone was bad, i said the windows mobile is gay. theres just waay too many bugs and it works randomly.

i mean wtf do you buy a phone for? so you can spend all your evenings loading custom roms in order to make if bug free? or you buy a phone so you can actually use it.

maybe the blackberry doesnt have that many fancy flashing apps like android or this phone but whatever is has in it works prety damn good...

many people admit that blackberry OS is ne of the most stable OS they have used.

while i had TP2 i loaded 3 different roms and didnt see much improvement just different features and icons were added.

you can paint **** with gold but its still **** underneath...
[Nexus One General] JunoonX:
I've been trying to launch the Camera app but I've been unable to do so. To try to troubleshoot this, I hooked up the N1 to my Mac and fired up ddms.

Here's part of the verbose log:

01-15 19:53:55.508: VERBOSE/RenderScript_jni(513): surfaceChanged

01-15 19:53:55.508: VERBOSE/RenderScript(513): setSurface 800 480 0x606a00

01-15 19:53:55.508: ERROR/Surface(513): surface (id=0, identity=402) is invalid, err=-19 (No such device)

01-15 19:53:55.508: ERROR/Surface(513): surface (id=0, identity=402) is invalid, err=-19 (No such device)

01-15 19:53:55.658: INFO/dalvikvm(1333): Debugger thread not active, ignoring DDM send (t=0x41504e4d l=40)

01-15 19:53:55.718: ERROR/Surface(513): invalid token (-1, identity=0) or client (0x0)

01-15 19:53:55.798: ERROR/Adreno200-EGL(513): egliGetNativeWindowSize: unable to dequeue native buffer

01-15 19:53:55.798: ERROR/Surface(513): invalid token (-1, identity=0) or client (0x0)

01-15 19:53:55.798: ERROR/Adreno200-EGL(513): egliGetNativeWindowSize: unable to dequeue native buffer

01-15 19:53:55.798: ERROR/RenderScript(513): EGL/Surface mismatch EGL (0 x 0) SF (800 x 480)

01-15 19:53:55.918: DEBUG/dalvikvm(1333): GC freed 1329 objects / 92912 bytes in 75ms

01-15 19:53:55.948: ERROR/RenderScript(513): Pending GL Error, 0x3f9698

01-15 19:53:55.948: DEBUG/CameraService(52): CameraService::connect E (pid 1333, client 0x17f60)

01-15 19:53:55.978: VERBOSE/RenderScript_jni(513): surfaceDestroyed

01-15 19:53:55.978: VERBOSE/RenderScript(513): setSurface 0 0 0x0

01-15 19:54:00.458: WARN/WindowManager(67): App freeze timeout expired.

01-15 19:54:00.458: WARN/WindowManager(67): Force clearing freeze: AppWindowToken{44caddc0 token=HistoryRecord{44cadb68 com.android.camera/.Camera}}

01-15 19:54:02.568: DEBUG/dalvikvm(67): GC freed 11814 objects / 607904 bytes in 112ms

01-15 19:54:05.382: WARN/ActivityManager(67): Launch timeout has expired, giving up wake lock!

01-15 19:54:05.655: WARN/ActivityManager(67): Activity idle timeout for HistoryRecord{44cadb68 com.android.camera/.Camera}

Every time I try to terminate just the camera app (after atleast 5 mins of it being up and hung), and restart it, the last line (in bold) is all I see and that is it. Nothing shows up on the screen from there on wards.

This N1 is rooted and is only running Cyanogen's bacon bits, nothing else.

For the time being I will try to uninstall applications that I have recently installed and see if that helps this situation at all. If anyone else has run into this on their N1, please do share your experience.
[Nexus One General] burton14e7:
Everytime I brought up my camera last night it would just black screen for a couple minutes then ask me to force close or wait. It was working fine earlier in the day and I didn't change anything with my phone. I had to do a wipe to get it to work again :( Also rooted with Cyanogen Bacon 1
[Nexus One General] burton14e7:
Just stopped working again...I think it might have to do if I let my battery die...
[Nexus One General] bradyonly:
I'm having the same problem. I'm rooted but nothing else. I was using my camera fine before, no additional pieces of software installed between when it broke and when it was working... I don't get why it's hanging like this...
[Nexus One General] iVisionX01:
My Camera has been functioning fine, I was able to snap a photo while using navigation of a driver doing something stupid (would be impossible on G1) and switch back to Nav with no problem. I suggest that anyone that isn't having any problems do a nandroid backup just in case.
[Nexus One General] bradyonly:
Well I just did a reboot and that seemed to help. A nandroid backup wouldn't hurt... just wish I knew what was causing the problem. Any of you have picsay installed? I uninstalled it and restarted then it seemed fine.
[Nexus One General] JunoonX:
I can restore using Nandroid to a few days back, so I'm not too concerned, but not knowing the root cause just means I could end up in this situation again.

I'll try to keep debugging, but it likely has to do with installation of some application, because nothing else makes sense.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Are you rooted?
[Nexus One General] iVisionX01:
Yes and I have Cyanogen's Addon.
[Nexus One General] JunoonX:
Uninstalling Picsay and then rebooting did address the camera (thx for that hint!).

Reinstalling Picsay and then rebooting, then retry launching Camera caused the same issue. For the time being, I'll keep Picsay uninstalled and report this thread back to picsay devs. See if they have any insight into this. Thx for your help guys.
[Nexus One General] iVisionX01:
The Gallery and Photoshop Mobile have some basic photo editing tools you can use in the mean time.
[Nexus One General] SANTilt:
Mine did the exact same thing last night; bombed out with the black screen several times over. I rebooted into console and fixed uid's and it's been fine ever since. I've noticed the N1 has some software issues here and there.

BTW, my phone is rooted but nothing else.
[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
This happened to me after updating to the latest "Nexus One Torch" with widget.

Edit: Preliminary reports indicate this is indeed the issue at hand, and that updating to the latest version of Nexus One Torch should resolve this.
[Nexus One General] erikku:
Ya, the same thing happened to me as well. I removed it and all is well again.
[Nexus One General] iVisionX01:
Check the market again it looked like the dev fixed the problem my camera doesn't hang.
[Nexus One General] dustpupy:
Verified. Updated Torch app and camera is back to normal for me.
[Nexus One General] SANTilt:
Interesting, as fixing permissions from console fixed the issue on my phone. I used the camera quite a bit after that too.

Just updated the torch app, hopefully this behind us now.
[Nexus One General] Fking1:
I have the same problem, unfortunately on a phone i just got and installed just a couple of applications.

I've done factory reset few times since then and the problem still persist, it doesnt seem to be application related here.

SANTilt, you said that you fixed some permissions from the console? Can you tell me how you did that, im new to android.

If that doesn't help i'm pretty sure i got a falty hardware and i dont even have a warranty... :(
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Brainze:
If I take a ROM in .ZIP format and unzip it on my PC into a folder with the same name...

Then delete any .APKs of programs I have no use for (Twidroid, facebook, etc) and then replace the boot.img with a different kernel of my choice and different SuperUser.apk...

Can I then ZIP this primary folder and load it as a ROM onto my MT3G?

Forgive me if this sounds really stupid, but I have no idea.

Would it need to be "cooked" before I can load it??
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Ace42:
When you cook you need to make sure the gloves are on and you have the oven's temp turned up real nicely to fry that thing:D

I guess you didnt search or something? I need you to confirm that you cant/can see this at the top left corner of screen:

xda-developers > Dream > Dream Android Development

Press Dream then head to Q&A section please.Wait a sec...Thats not a Dream..You belong here for asking q's about your phone:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=480

Just do a search for signing tool and it shows up.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] gitanojr:
its more complicated than it looks...

First u will have to know if removing those .apk will not cause any trouble...

Second u will have to sign the apks u r going to add, and signed the zip too...

about changing the boot.img has been tried before in another thread...

but most important u will have to search, search and read, read...

going to try and find some thread for u, before the mods closed this...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ilostchild:
Need to have it resigned...once a zip file is open it breaks the signature but I would aslo like to kno if this is possible
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] gitanojr:
here its a thread about resigned:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=473580

read it all, has interesting stuff, but keep searching...

actually i would like to try this too...

if u ask devs, unless they want to teach u, great...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] MOONSSPOON:
Wow...

You can open zips (roms/updates) and browse them without the need to resign them. If you change any of the contents in a zip (rom/update) file, as in remove or add, then you have to resign. You do not have to resign the apks you add to the zip (rom/update) file.

To do what you want to do, refer to the link about signing zips that was posted above. Remove the APKs, sign the zip (rom/update) file, and apply the update to your phone.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] hiddengopher:
bring in the wrecking crew!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Iman07:
anyone know how to run this on a mac?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] gitanojr:
Ha people had post, but the one that make the thread, its no where...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Brainze:
Sweet! Thanks folks.

The "Search" function is the most important in any forum, but it does the user no good if they have absolutely positively no idea what to search for... lol :D

My goal is to take Manup's Eclair_2.1-v1.5 and remove all the .APKs I don't have any use for... Swap the boot.img for the eclair one with the 10MB hack, replace the SpareParts.APK with one that contains "Keep home app in memory" option, etc, etc, etc.