yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] Spike15:
Okay, here's the deal:

I'm a Canadian.

So we'll do two tests.

1. I'll bring my T9193 HD2 to the States, get on AT&T with my 850 UMTS antenna, and we'll test.

2. You'll bring your T-Mobile HD2 to Canada, get on Rogers, fall back to 2G because you don't have the right UMTS frequencies, and we'll test.

Nice UMTS frequencies BRO.
[HD2 General] mallman:
lol, well that's hard to argue IF you live in the USA... which i do so you got me, +1 to you :) However, i am fair and i would also have to argue that unless i am in the US, this isnt a true argument. BUT, this is meant for the US so.... haha but hey, the one i use is meant for EU so i suposed they travel all over dont they
[HD2 General] Archer:
There are obvious differences that we already knew would exist, but the RAM & ROM are better - no 2 ways about it.

It's hardly the end of the world though. I'm just quite suprised to see such a change in hardware spec so soon.
[HD2 General] micaman:
It seems this phone will run well in Canada on the WIND network.
[HD2 General] mallman:
and you will find that att bands do not work at my house. So you wont get any data. Tmobile bands get full service at my house. again, its all relative. Att is the fastest, i think that is a give but you have to actually get service before that matters :) thats all im saying
[HD2 General] mallman:
no no, i agree dont get me wrong. Problem is that those enhancements are only on the US version. I agree 110%, more ram and rom is always better in ever case, no exceptions.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i dis agree with you i had a tytn2 device and an hd1 they were the same speed in normal use it only differs when a big number of applications is opened other wise it doesnot
[HD2 General] mallman:
lol ok, doesnt really mean the same thing. if your device had more it would be better if u use it or not.
[HD2 General] don_sefer:
I just dont understand why they bringing a new htc hd2 so soon...

whats the reason for this? and wouldnt it be better to name it like

htc hd2+ or something? Dont know if this version will also get

available in europe, but i hope i get my hd2 soon, cause there are

supply difficulties in germany at the moment... maybe i get the new

version if its not available before xD

best regards
[HD2 General] emigrating:
I'm guessing the updated RAM/ROM is to comply with WM7 specs - as far as I know the HD2 was always touted as WM7 compatible, but according to whitepapers I've seen there was a 1GB RAM demand from Microsoft that the HD2 (in it's original form) didn't meet.

I'm wondering if this could mean the US handsets will see a WM7 update whereas us Europeans will not?

I'm also interested to find out if they have fixed the HW fault of the camera in this new revision. Yes, I know they [HTC] later retracted the statement that the pink splodge was a HW fault, but anyone with half a brain can deduce it is indeed a HW issue. If they have I'm guessing HTC will have a problem due to all the upset customers and handset returns they will get from early customers.
[HD2 General] rahulelectra:
Yeah think positive... I was also thinking about the 1 GB thingy..
[HD2 General] jjblaster3:
this sucks, i just came from ordering a hd2 today(european version)...

what im imagining right now is that if "only" the t-mobile US hd2 gets a wm7 upgrade, what happens to the rest of us???
[HD2 General] crazy talk:
you're on XDA developers, do you think if the USA HD2 gets WM7 you wont?
[HD2 General] Spike15:
The same thing that always happens with XDA Developers...

; )
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
but if the rom is not enough then we are in trouble as we couldnot port wm7 to us
[HD2 General] Spike15:
The official requirement ROM-wise for WM7 is 512mb...1gig is simply "recommended".
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
recommended for best performance and not to be lag
[HD2 General] Archer:
And where did you get that information? From someone you put down for saying it prior to you?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5444704&postcount=55
[HD2 General] jjblaster3:
maybe u guys are right... but u gotta admit it kinda hurts doesnt it?

i mean im jus coming from a simple old kaiser but it still felt like being betrayed :p
[HD2 General] Spike15:
I wasn't putting them down, that was a legitimate question. I was actually curious what contributes to the difference between the "requirement" and "recommendation". In desktop PCs there's the page file, and therefore you get higher performance out of more storage, is the same true for WM? Or do they merely "recommend" the ROM so you'll have a place to stick programs?
[HD2 General] terminal 7:
im ok now

im ok now..

honest im ok, just stoped crying about this !

i need to start saving again .. meh...

im gonna cry again now....

1 gig !!! meh..

=====PEACE=====
[HD2 General] ruscik:
Whre did you get that info from. Every place I visited said 1GB + of Flash and no mention that it was recommended.

Maybe some briliant XDA-Dev people will find a way around. I would think moving some files to SD card would be an idea. For example entire my documents folder, all sounds except one so even if sd out phone will ring with something or even some dll's.
[HD2 General] VizagDude:
Al right.. who wants to by my MINT condition European version unbranded Hd2 :D:D:D:D
[HD2 General] MonnieRock:
Remmber,

before the annoucement of the USA version, there were:

HD2 UK/EU/Asian T8585

HD2 AUS (different hardware) T9193

now HD2 USA (different hardware) Txxxx

All are HD2's, just dedicated to country/carriers/3G Networks

Monnie
[HD2 General] atlp99:
The vast majority of ATT's 3g (UMTS and HSPA) utilizes the 1900 MHZ spectrum. Only recently have they begun activating 3g on the 850 MHZ frequency. They are only activating the 850 Mhz spectrum to try and compensate for their lack of back haul capacity. Just Google for ATT 3G problems and you will find tons of complaints about ATT being unable to connect calls and data sessions even when handsets show 3G coverage, due to lack of capacity.

Additionally ATT is still running the slower 3.6 Mbps 3g (they have only updated the software on the towers but are not activating the 7.2 Mbps on the network nationwide until late 2010, While T-Mobile has fully updated to 7.2 Mbps and is upgrading to 21Mbps nationwide by the end of 2010. The HD2 hardware should be able to take advantage of the faster network speeds.

Plus T-Mobile's 3g frequency is a combination of the 2100 Mhz spectrum used throughout europe and the 1700 Mhz frequency.

All Tmobile 3G phones will operate on UMTS / HSDPA in the US, and Europe, plus on Wind in Canada.

So which 3G frequencies were neutered again?
[HD2 General] atlp99:
RAM and ROM good

The updated RAM and ROM memory are good but the 16 Gig memory card is probably a class 2 card. If you are planning on running software from the memory card a faster (class 6 or 8) memory card would give better performance. I would personally rather have a cheaper price for the phone and buy my own memory card.

The upgraded specs are the trade off for having to wait for the phone to launch in the U.S. for months after the European version.
[HD2 General] Fantastica:
For those worrying about WinMo 7 compatibility on the European HD2...

http://pocketnow.com/thought/htc-diamond3-to-run-media-edition-of-windows-mobile-7

The specifications for the Obsession clearly say 512MB RAM and 512MB ROM, very close to what the Euro HD2 has. Don't give up hope everyone! :D
[HD2 General] eriche:
maybe WM7 will run on our european HD2.

BUT

we now already have massive problems with free space when using the stock HTC ROM,...

With WM7 I guess it will be no space left,...

GreeT`S
[HD2 General] jjblaster3:
this maybe true... but since winmob 7 (as its said) will have a massive change in UI, i think htc might shorten down the htc sence wm overlay to just a homescreen as it used to be in previous touchflo3d versions...

well at least im sure thats what most chefs will do to save up more space
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
we now discovered that hd2 eu has a 576 of ram but was disabled in current rom
[HD2 General] eriche:
Damn this crap is disgusting

Yes this news I can imagagine.

Maybe not all memory is now allocated :rolleyes:

BUT what about the ROM.

For me this is the most importent fact.

Of course cooked WM7 trashed all overhead may fit in 512MB

But I prefere official ROMs - and this may be in the professional version 750MB :eek:

GreeT`s
[HD2 General] mbernstein:
I've read this thread, and several others, and as I am considering buying the HD2 (either I buy it in the next month when I will be in the US or wait for a friend to go there someday, who knows when...), and since there is this new US version to consider, I would like to summarize my options and clear up some doubts with the generous posters here:

- Everywhere it says HD2 US comes only in Spring. I assume it will only be available at T-Mobile after March or later. Not in time if I want it in February during my trip. Correct?

- HD2 Europe vs US: 3G Bands, RAM and ROM. Any other difference?

- HD2 Europe: If HTC Sense is taken out there shall be plenty of ROM space for WM7 (if WM 7 is ever released for the HD2) and say about 100MB for applications (I don't care about installing many applications in ROM - just 100 MB or so)? Most agree with this? - This is my main doubt along with:

- HD2 US: can the camera pink hue be once and for all fixed (many people complain about it even after patch) with this new version of HD2? The Overexposure of Flash as well? - second main doubt.

I thank you so much for any help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] deeznuts:
Attached below are all files/cabs ive tried and none doing any better then the other. Sure the bluetooth volume is increased as well as the speaker on the back of the phone, but looking to also have the small speaker (that you normally use to listen to the other person, one on the front of the phone) to increase since its still low even at the max level! Any ideas? Ive tried installing the full audio boost cab, then the tilt2 specific cab (anyone know what the difference is here?), then copied and overwrote the audiopara3 file in windows, soft reset, even tried a soft reset inbetween each process and still no good. Any ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AngelDeath:
Try the files I attached, and then reset the phone before attempting, also make sure the volume is all the way up before testing incalls.

Files included are:

AudioPara3_AttMax (Directly into Windows folder)

Bluetooth Line Speed.cereg (Import to Phone Registry. I used CE RegEditor)

Modified Incall Loud Settings (2 Locations)

Ring Setting

I take no credit for the Mods.

Reboot and try it out.

Works on an ATT Tilt 2 with EU Rom Stock. (USA)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] deeznuts:
These actually do work quite well! I think better then all the above i posted! Anyway to get this in cab form? Kind of a hassle each time i flash a new rom to have to use the desktop ce reg program to import these values each time. Cab would be much nicer if at all possible? Thank you
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WarlockW:
Made a cab of his settings for anyone that wants to try it ..

Increase Volume.cab

Also here is one that seems to work for me ..

Audio_FINAL1.0_PRO2.cab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AngelDeath:
Warlock, U beat me to it, but I looked at your file, and seems you made some changes, which aren't my settings, probably to make it work with yours, but I appreciate you making one. I've upped mine as well, which is exactly the same thing as the zip folder just in cab form as requested.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] davidgee:
So which ones do what?

This is getting confusing. We now have all these CABS. Much appreciated but which ones do what? Is there just ONE that will increase the speaker volume and earpiece volume and do they also affect the ring-tone volume? I don't know how to compare them all. Can you help clarify please?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AngelDeath:
Download the files attached to my first post if you dont mind editing the registry. And add the CSV file into the windows folder. If you do not like to mess with the registry, then download my cab file attached to my post and it will install and if you dont like it you can uninstall it from remove programs.

Warlock as nice enough made a cab file, but looking at it seems to have changes in his, so as not to confuse anyone my set of files work. But remember you must install the AudioPara3_ATTMax in the windows folder of the phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xredjokerx:
hey angeldeath, i modified your cab file to include the audiopara file as well.

look on next page for volume cab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AngelDeath:
Thanks xredjokerx I didnt know how to do that LOL (Aint that sad?)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] deeznuts:
Thank you everyone, awesome work! Love it when great minds come together. Ill try this one first since these files are the ones that did the trick for me the first time. Any ideas on if i installed this cab, then installed warlock's second cab he posted? I think his first cab is just a mix of these files but his second cab is said to be different. Any ideas on that?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] deeznuts:
This cab doesnt seem to work. Just took a nap and woke up 20min late cus my device had no sound! I installed this cab, soft reset, now phone has zero sound when u adjust the volume with side hard keys in volume control, alarm clock, stuff like that theres zero sound!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] deeznuts:
Winner!

tried the increase volume cab, soft reset, checked all sounds on device and all working perfect and much louder! Im not hard of hearing, just my work environment can be very loud at times and moving around a lot i dont always feel my phone vibrate so i need a loud ringer and very loud earpiece as well!

I also installed the second cab (audio_final), soft reset, tested all sounds and all working fine.

To warlock, whats the difference between the first cab u put together and the second cab? Is it best to install both as i did or use one or the other?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WarlockW:
I would use just one ..

try it .. if it works great .. if not uninstall it.

try the other ..

if it works great .. if not uninstall it.

:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] deeznuts:
Sounds good. Was just curious if one did something the other cab didnt and if it would be better to install both to get the best of both worlds? Either way, greatly appreciate the work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] davidgee:
still confused!

I installed	marcini.thinkblu-tilt2 vol increase.cab because it reduces the bassiness heard when the headset is connected as well as increasing the headset volume. But what exactly do these other CABS do? There's the handset earpiece volume, the speaker volume, the headset volume and the ringtone volume. What does what? And as one CAB posted here appears not to work, can someone produce an alternative or one CAB that does everything? Thanks for all your input. This is a necessary adjustment to an expensive phone that we can't hear.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AngelDeath:
The Cab warlock put up after me isnt my file, the reason is cause if you install his cab his cab points to a file that doesnt exist, thats why you would get no sound. My files (In my posts) will, cause the file name it refers to is also attached to my post. So I suggest you dont mix and match or your going to have many sound problems.

These files do the following (Under my posts)

Increase the Ear piece, increase the bluetooth earpiece and sound quality, and increase the ringer of the phone to better hear in a loud enviroment.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] WarlockW:
Just to correct you .. you are incorrect. yes it does ..

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev

\windows\AudioPara3_1MAX.csv

File: \windows\AudioPara3_1MAX.csv

All I did was change the name so it didnt over right any current files.

Anyway .. Use what works :)

< THEY ALL CAN BE UNINSTALLED>
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] johng75:
HOLY CRAP THATS LOUD.... :p

now i have to turn the volume down, otherwise blast out my ear drums... haha this thing is great!:D

can ya hear me now? YES!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xredjokerx:
oof sorry, i changed the directory of where the file was installed to \Windows instead of %windows% and now all is fixed. sorry about your nap! :( RE-UPPED

also, beware of any damages that may occur if you raise the volume of any speaker. This is a disclaimer protecting myself, angeldeath and warlockw from any liability in case of any speaker damage. use at your own risk xD

(im using one too, so we're on the same boat if we sink)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] AngelDeath:
WarlockW Buddy, sorry I opened the cab but didnt see anything other then the reg entry, but the AudioPara3_ATTMAX.csv doesnt exist on any phone, but no problem, as long as everyone is happy is what counts.

xredjokerx,

Thanx for the Disclaimer ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] davidgee:
where is your upload now.

Where have you uploaded the corrected CAB? Is it now on your original posting (sorry, I don't know the uploading system).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xredjokerx:
yeah i reuploaded it on the same post. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dmkozak:
This volume cab and QuickMenu seems to consistently corrupt my ring tone file, which results in the phone never ringing when calls come in. Posted a separate thread about this, but no replies.

Anyway, phone seems stable without any cabs, apps, programs. Somehow, combining this volume cab with QuickMenu keeps corrupting my ring tone files. Shame because I really miss both the increased volume and QuickMenu.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cubbump:
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I installed the cab but then my musicplayer nolonger worked and many othe programs lost their sound
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xredjokerx:
interesting.. sorry guys!

i dont know exactly why its doing this... can anybody test this cab for me?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] msgadget:
I may not be a good tester, I'm not the best with reg edits, cabs, etc.

I'd like to try it though. If I install, does everything go in the right folders? I would really like the increased volume, bluetooth and without bluetooth.

From what's been said the "remove program" works with it, doesn't it?

Thanks much,

MsGadget
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sirphunkee:
:D

Yes, that's the beauty of cab files, they handle the "put everything in the right place" part for you...and they can be removed/reset simply by choosing them in the "remove programs" dialog
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] msgadget:
Thank goodness for "remove program". Volume 2 corrupted my ring tones.

I'll test the next version though!

Mona
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] diablolightning:
i installed this cab and now it wont ring .. it will just vibrate
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xredjokerx:
i think i've figured it out.. though..

the problem here is that even though the cab is writing as a DWORD value, it ends up writing as a STRING value. i've searched for hours online, but i havent found a solution to this... its quite aggravating.. well, here is a cab that shouldnt disable rings anymore, though i dont know if it will actually be louder. can someone test for me again? thanks!

heres a new cab i've cabbed up...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] diablolightning:
it didnt work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xredjokerx:
still doesnt work?

oof. it might have to take a manual edit to work then... sigh..

i'll keep looking to see if i can find anything else..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] diablolightning:
does anyone know how to fix this? my phone only vibrates now.. and does like 2 or 3 times as longer than before.:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] moopile:
Was there ever a resolution/final decision made about which/if any of these worked?

Is the answer here, or was it continued in another thread?

Anyway, primarily concerned about increasing ring volume and speaker (not-speakerphone) volume.

Thanks.

P.s. Using Rom in sig.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DeathmonkeyGTX:
I installed the ATTMAX audiopara into the windows folder, Angel's cab killed my sound and just vibrated like a mofo. uninstalled fine, tried Warlock's 1xx kB cab and it worked like a charm. haven't tried BT headset volume, ear speaker on phone volume but I have tried ringer volume/music playback volume, and it is definitely louder.

However, there was a setting in HD Tweak .5 where one could set it to "MAXIMAL" instead of 100dBA EU limit, and a setting below that to jack up volume further. It worked FANTASTIC, but in the last couple builds I've tried (23544 and 23547) tend to glitch when I use HD Tweak. Anybody know where those DWORDS are in the registry?

In call volume was fine, seemed to be a wee bit of an echo. It was probably just the connection, but I'll keep an ear on it through the rest of tonight and into tomorrow. Headphones with Slacker Radio are sufficiently loud, not so stupidly loud/probably capable of blowing my supremely broken in Sennheiser H280's. Ring volume is probably loud enough, but if there's a way I can make it to where I can make it go higher via the side mount volume buttons, it'd be epic for waking me up out of drunk sleep or deep REM sleep.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4840214&postcount=12

i use that. my only issue is its just a bit too loud, i nice medium between the really soft standard and the extreme loudness of that file. i need the volume in call and its nice that volume on other things is nice and loud and clear, but when im alone and just want to listen to the radio i can turn the volume to its lowest setting and its still too loud.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] karmba_a:
Karmba_a HD2 v1.3

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] arsenal4ever:
thank you abo yezen for good rom
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] abumhmmd1:
GREAT WRK abuYazen

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wannan:
thank you abo yezen for good rom
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] E_Waqad:
Many thanks abu Yazan --- Nice job

does it suppot Arabic language ??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] love is me:
Thank you Karmba,

keep up the good work...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] khaledsm88:
thank you abu yazen

is this rom with new build 1.66
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] turborider:
i dont think is the new asian rom
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] turborider:
did anyone try this rom?it doesent say anything nada what rom version is made from 1.48...1.61...or 1.66 and is only 1 file there i dont know if it can be installed ok by using hspl and i never seen karmba_a talk,oh well :D :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] audscott:
It's smooth and fast: The one problem I have is the FM radio. It won't stop scanning. I select a station and away it goes. Never happened before. I always clear storage and have soft reset several times, but the problem persists.

By the way, the black and silver motif is very appealing.

Edit: I confirmed two other ROM,s - 1.66 stock and a cooked don't have the FM radio problem. I did not come back to Karmba_a to check again. Can someone else post their FM radio results, please?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ejder1377:
i did not try fm radio yet but this is it.. i'll use my hd2 with this rom.. i love it..