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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] tazz9690:
Your phone can act like a 32A but it will never BE a 32A. MT3G lacks the ram that 32A have. 32B phones have 192 and 32A has 288mb of ram. If you try to revert back to 32A, it will be sluggish due to that fact with any of those roms, even with linux swap.

If you are looking for good 32B roms, look in the Dream forums. Almost all of the newer roms are compatible with both the G1 and 32B Magic phones, like yours.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] vincentkosasih:
32A better than 32B,

IMHO~~
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Djolenzze:
I say as others, 32A... :) regards.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
It pains me when I try to understand why would T-Mobile/HTC (don't know who the culprit is) shave off an insane amount of ram from the 32b. Really though, what possible reason!?:mad:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] JarlSX:
never got that one either! and its the mobile provider that picks the phone, but its htc that offers both versions, so i blame htc for this.

here in the netherlands, vodafone is the only one selling the Magic, they picked the 32B. so i got my 32A from belgium (which resulted in still not having an official update, because proximus/htc never bothere making one, would still be running 1.5 if not for XDA)

by the way, its not just the difference in RAM, the chipsets are different as well

the 32A uses Qualcomm MSM7200A, 32B has Qualcomm MSM7201A
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lucatorto:
idk how to update my touch pro 2 from 6.1 to 6.5 and also i want to get the fully operative iphone theme please if u can help write me im new
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mushages:
First Of all Welcome to Xda i can see ur anew user so find your right forum and post there good luck :) always remember theres asearch on the right top of your screen dont be scared to use it..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] band27:
Before flashing your phone with the latest Roms, it's important to HDSPL your device <<HERE>>.
[Nexus One General] amlwaycooljr:
If this was mentioned before I'm sorry about bringing it up again but with my lack of knowledge on li-ion batteries I figured I'd check with you guys to make sure nothing is amiss here. When I was charging my n1 I noticed the back getting quite warm so I installed spare parts and saw that my battery temp was nearly 38 degrees Celsius.

Is this a bad thing or is it completely normal and I shouldn't think to much of it?

Again I'm sorry for the noob question.
[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
Completely normal.
[Nexus One General] melterx12:
its normal, the wall charger charges at 1A, while USB charges at 500mA. If you want a faster charge wall charging is the way to go. I use USB because im not in a hurry and high temps are not good for any device (although im not saying you shouldnt use a wall charger, its just my personal preference).
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
It's normal, mine behaves the same way...
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Actually, the battery is designed to be charged optimally at .98 amps. I recall someone saying that charging with the adapter is better for battery life, and charging with the USB cable should be done sparingly.
[Nexus One General] amlwaycooljr:
Cool that's good to hear, I just wanted to be a bit on the cautious side.

uansari1: so it's better for the battery to charge it with the power adapter? Offhand do you know what kind of drawbacks would occur if we were to use the usb cable instead? I'll try to do some research on it a bit later, if using the adapter means keeping the battery healthier I'd be all for it.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
What we were told, and this was in the G1 forum, was that the battery life and capacity is maximized when using the charger, and over time if you only charge with the USB cable, the capacity can go down...meaning it loses calibration over time.

Don't worry about the battery getting warm... the phone is designed for it, and so is the battery. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] block:
Hi, right now i'm using maxmanila on energy jan 14 with the 4 icons on the main screen, call history, calendar, sms and email..how can I change when I click on the 3rd pic the sms to go to vito sms-chat rather than manilas page where it links to wm sms, also how can I change the left softkey of the txt msg tab to go to sms-chat also??? anyone please help! thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] block:
bump........
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vim0314:
alright guys and girls... i just got the touch pro 2 yesterday. its on WM6.1 and i like it, but thinking to upgrade to a cooked rom.

I would like to back-up my current rom for just in case. plus i like my settings right now becuase i get full 3g with my tzones package :D.... how can i go about backing up my current rom?

also in yalls personal experience whats the best cooked rom out there?

also could i get weather to show on my today screen with my current WM6.1 running touchflo 3d 2.1?

any other cool stuff/tips/tricks for this phone i should know about?

thanks in advance! :D

p.s. anyone in houston/texas, what radio version are you using with tmobile for best service/battery life? i only get about 1/2 bars of 3g service in my apt..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dougstoner:
I would use SPB Backup. It will backup all your contacts, settings, programs, etc... It even will allow you to restore all this when you upgrade to different roms. There is a setting for Rom upgrade mode.

Can't really say there is one rom that is better than the rest. You are just going to have to see which is best for you. Personally, I've tried Energy rom, Valkyrie, Josh's perfect black, athine, itje's, and a few others, but they all had there ups and downs. sense 2.1 is the fastest out there though, and the most stable. The 2.5 is pretty cool, but too slow for my taste.

Yeah, check these threads out.

Software

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550973

Cab's, Tweaks,etc

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=524655

Also do a search for MaxTTM and HDWalls. HDWalls is used to make highdef background cabs, and maxttm has several graphic tweak options.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vim0314:
thank you! anything like SPB that is free thou? does SPB make a rom file so i can just flash my phone with it incase i want to go back?

I've had my eye on the

|R|6.5.3|ROM|WWE| ★ EnergyROM "Phoenix 2" 23518/21889 ★Jan 16★ Sense 2.1/Titanium ★

and thinking ill probably try it out soon....

what does the WWE stand for?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] InRBigness:
World Wide English.

SPB backups will not back up your rom per se I dont think. They will back up all the stuff that you put on your rom since you got the phone though.

There is a way to back up the stock rom but it involves some specialized tools that are available in the rom section. To restore your phone to what it is today after installing a cooked rom you would have to flash back the factory rom then restore your backup from SPB or sprite.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vim0314:
^^^ Thanks!!!

Downloading EnergyROM "Phoenix 2" right now...

gonna do some researching in the rom section to try and find away to backup my full rom. because i really love the fact of having full 3g internet with only my tzones package... hopefully someone can chime in about backing up my rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dougstoner:
SPB Backup will only backup your programs, data, music, etc, but NOT the rom itself. Really, all you need to do is backup your data, and that way, you can just reload the default rom if you need to, then restore your data after that.

SPB is not free though....Microsoft has a free program that also works well called myphone.

Oh, and btw, I just flashed that same Rom (EnergyROM Phoenix 2) and lovin it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dougstoner:
Backup of Rom...

Did a little searching, and did come across this. I personally haven't tried it, but it sounds like it should work.

Check this out...

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BackupExistingRom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] vim0314:
Thanks for that info... that is only for the HTC Magician. but maybe it'll work for the touch pro 2...

i'm at school so i cant flash the energyrom phoenix right now, but will flash it when i go home.
[G1 Android Development] NCommander:
So I've been looking at the video codecs issue that blocks YouTube HD and video recording on the Dream. Seems there are two underlying issues, libsgl from donut was merged into a new library, and that theres an API break in libhardware.

On the first issue, its fairly easy to build donut's libsgl.so on eclair with some minor changes to source to get it, build it, and it seems that it works properly (as far as I can tell, the OpenGL 3D interface it binds to has had a stable API). I don't have a strong test case to use it on.

The second problem is more interesting. It seems to me that the problem with the API break is that Qualcomm is using enum's in a way that is absolutely stupid, and added new numbers that broke the magic numbers copybit needs. This causes a set of copybit failures when blitting stuff to the screen. Rebuilding the proprietary libraries would fix the problem, but as we only have libraries built against 1.6, this obviously won't work, so I'm seeing if theres a better solution we can use to solve this problem. Any ideas welcome.
[G1 Android Development] jcarrz1:
NCommander, you've done amazing work here before :)

unfortunately, based on my research and trying to merge patches from 1.6 into 2.0 source and vice versa, that this is nearly impossible.

I would expect that the only feasable way would be to make a whole new composition method for android, based loosely off the methods shown in the 1.6 source.

Unfortunately, i think that it will be best to wait for HTC to work with qualcomm, and actually release something. I've heard that the MyTouch will be getting the 2.0/2.1 update, and hope that this release will solve our problems.
[G1 Android Development] mobilemaster999:
Noting is impossible

Camera didn't work but now it does. Youtube will work 100% very soon
[G1 Android Development] bakgwailo:
Interesting.... could we possible encapsulate the existing libhardware and create a new interface to it to translate the new calls (enums) to existing? Just throwing the idea out there - probably too simple and I am missing something not knowing too much of the details. I guess I would think of a libWINE like approach, interface just translates the new expected calls to the old driver....
[G1 Android Development] smackdown85146:
if all goes well, will this also help speed up things like live wallpapers? (sorry if this is a noob question)
[G1 Android Development] ZombieReagan:
In theory, it would allow any opengl call to be handled on the GPU. Not only would the livewallpaper speed up, but you'd have more available CPU time for other operations.

The idea is sound, the tricky part is making them efficient enough to actually be a net benefit. It could decent stopgap until new drivers are released.
[G1 Android Development] llxll0m3g4llxll:
????-????

So your saying that the first eclair roms where 1.6 with 2.0 skins?
[G1 Android Development] thenameismax:
No, not entirely...when the Eclair Roms roms were first being made in the beginning Devs didnt have the drivers for the camera. But, thanks to NCommander we do now =)
[G1 Android Development] pinkolin:
Android G1 2.0 Update

T-Mobile Czech Republic officialy announced 2.0 update for G1 for end of January (1-2 weeks). Maybe is better wait for this release.
[G1 Android Development] vincom2:
Isn't january ending... tomorrow? :confused:
[G1 Android Development] tnpapadakos:
yeah, my senses tell me that it is
[G1 Android Development] pinkolin:
Yes, but this is Europe, "End of January" is in T-mobile speak half of February :-D. I have Google Translate page with this info, but i'm Junior member without rights :-D.
[G1 Android Development] protomanez:
Eh would probably be too lazy to go back to stock anyways, will just have to wait for those video drivers =)
[G1 Android Development] shawe_ewahs:
This can be "helpfully" for your work on this thread. More info:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=625108

http://www.4shared.com/file/207649694/b347bfad/RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_304401.html

Is a full origianl ROM 2.1 for HTC Sapphire, the problem is that it only works on 32A, and I think that this can be a problem.
[G1 Android Development] olearyp:
I don't see anyone in that thread indicating that it's a 2.x ROM, just that it's a potential way to root some newer 32A SPLs. Might help some Rogers people out. Am I missing something? Have you pulled the build.prop?
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
Its probably the default rom that comes with the phone.
[G1 Android Development] menace:
How close is the camera in the g1 to the camera in the Hero ? I keep seeing articles that HTC is releasing 2.1 upgrade for the hero. Will this help the g1 ?
[G1 Android Development] Daneshm90:
yup with the 2.1 upgrade ur g1 can take 10mp pics :rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] gregnotcraig:
Sounds like ndiswrapper for linux :)
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
:D doesnt it though
[G1 Android Development] gregnotcraig:
If it's a feasible kludge (I consider ndiswrapper a kludge and use it), I'm willing to alpha and beta test :D
[G1 Android Development] chrs2021:
so any idea when we might see a proof of concept?
[G1 Android Development] xtenpeben:
any news if europe got their 2.x g1 upgrade?

its 2/4 already... lol
[G1 Android Development] lotherius:
New Idea

Indications are that at least SOME Magic devices (Fender Edition MT http://www.fender.com/news/index.php?display_article=447) may well be receiving a 2.1 update.

If this happens - would those drivers be binary compatible to the G1 and solve this issue once and for all?
[G1 Android Development] xtenpeben:
yeah, but didn't they change the board of that one to 32A?

well i'm not sure since i don't have the fender edition.
[G1 Android Development] sanpei:
many user-space libs communicate with radio/dsp/other hardware directly, the kernel drivers just transport the "Magic Number" NCommander called.

so the libs with new releases for newer devices won't work well, except we could flash our Radio to make these Magic Numbers same in both side.

and I think NCommander made a mistake. the video recording is not all HTC/Qualcomm's fault, but Google/PacketVideo's.

opencore2 are full of bugs. some of them caused the recording problem. if the camera can work, with some of these bug fixed, you could recording video by software encoder in opencore. i had tested this with a new radio 32A and aosp 2.0/2.1 hybrid sources with some bug fixes.

the loading progress of hardware encoder has some problem too. I didn't fix it because I find a newer lib from hero which could be loaded by opencore2. but this lib cannot be used by 32B, since new radio have Magic Number changed (so HTC changed the Magic Number in this lib).

so I think some convention are broken, though OMX interface didn't change. it can be repaired, but will spend some time with a skilled programmer.
[Nexus One General] SystmDcln:
I haven't been reading any articles on unlocking the N1..mainly to fight the temptation of wanting to do it vs voiding warranty. However, I think I'm going to suck it up and do it once a good ROM comes out I just have some questions.

1. If I unlock the boot loader, and decide I just don't wanna have root anymore, can I return to "stock" and receive OTA from T-Mobile/Google? Or am I just screwed?

Ok so that was really just one question..my mind drew a blank on the others.
[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
You can always (whether or not you have root access) install a signed, "stock" ROM. These will always be eligible for OTA updates.

However, you will be voiding your one-year warranty, and this can't be undone (yet).
[Nexus One General] SystmDcln:
Do I have to manually install or will I be notified and have it installed for me? I understand the warranty part, it makes me paranoid but out of the 6 phones i've owned I have only ever had to send 1 in for warranty..I hope my luck doesn't run out on this phone.
[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
You don't have to install a different ROM to enable root and unlock your phone. The OTA updates, I'm assuming, will be very easy to install (however your carrier intends them). Manually installing custom or stock ROMs can vary in difficulty.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Generally speaking, our devs will put out updates before T-mobile sends them OTA, since Google releases the SDK, etc.. That was the case with the G1 and MT3G... so I assume it'll be the case with the N1 as well.
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
I had all of my SMS messages for over a year saved on the phone. A couple thousand of them at least. Until today.

I was receiving a couple of SMS from a friend of mine and lamenting that the built in messaging software doesn't provide a nice way to see a message at a glance without having to unlock the phone and bring down the notification bar, etc. With my G1 I had been using SMS popup for most of this past year and I liked it, but thought I would just try seeing how it was living with the basic messaging system on the N1 since I got it.

So, just as I'm thinking that maybe I should reinstall SMS popup since the built-in support had me swiping and swiping too much to just check the messages I get a FC on the "MMS" system app. Through the FC screen I could see all the thread of messages and was worried that if I FC'd it then I would lose the latest message. Well, that's not exactly the danger there.

I OK'd the FC message and the messaging app closed, and then I brought it back up and I have 1 single message saved - just that last message, nothing else. All couple thousand messages my phone had been dutifully saving for me for over a year - from the earliest RC releases of Android 1.0 when I got my G1 the night before it was released - all the way through cupcake and donut, all the way through my experiments with using Cyanogen through the month of December - through thick and thin - all of them are gone now from one FC on a seemingly innocuous message.

And, even more oddly - the single message I'm left with doesn't show the sender's contact picture.

Grrrrr... Should have backed up more often I guess. At least I have a backup from a couple of weeks ago when I switched from my G1 to my N1.

So, beware - backup your SMS/MMS early and often if you want to save your history... :(
[Nexus One General] Ferndogg:
Try using handcent app it has pop up built in also.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Get SMS Backup and Restore from the Market... I back up my SMS messages every few weeks.
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
I use MyBackupPro - any reason to switch?

(It has scheduled backup capabilities, but I've never made use of them...)
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Nope... no reason to switch if you've already paid for MBP. Probably want to start using the scheduled backup now though, eh? ;)
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
Just out of curiousity, why would you want to keep all your SMS from the past year?
[Nexus One General] Mi|enko:
Thank you. I was wondering the same exact thing. If they were that important, why not have people send messages to your gmail so that it's saved to the cloud. . . Or, setup a GoogleVoice account and have all SMS go there, then forward to your phone, so that they're still on the cloud.
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
The phone keeps up with it quite fine. In the first 1.0 releases it would take a long time to open the Messages app if you had more than a few dozen messages, but they fixed that in one of the earlier releases and so there was no real performance penalty to keeping all messages. By the time I reached enough messages for it to possibly trigger that performance problem they had released the fix. And since then it's been smooth sailing with upwards of 4000 messages.

My question back is - why delete them? I'm a pack rat. I save things, especially when there is no reason to get rid of them. Now, keeping physical things around the home - that can get to be a problem and so there is a cost to keeping everything, but email and SMS - keeping them is essentially "free" (I've never even noticed the storage hit on any of my Blackberry or Android phones) and you never know when you are going to want to go back and say "Actually, you texted me XXX and YYY back in March" just to needle someone... ;-)

And yes, I have a couple of gigabytes worth of email saved on my laptop from the past decade or so too. (Though I do delete most messages at work - anything of the nature of "this weekly meeting will be held in such and such a room" or "Can someone fix the build?" or an automated status message from a server get deleted, but anything with any technical content gets saved...and has occasionally proven useful...)
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
They aren't "that important". I'm just a data packrat by nature. Storage is cheap nowadays. ;-)

I haven't delved into Google Voice at this point, but that does sound like an interesting solution...
[Nexus One General] GlenH:
I can't imagine why you would want to keep a years worth of sms!

I purge all mine fairly regularly anyway, just to clean up.
[Nexus One General] Oletros:
I use G-backup to backup my SMS/MMS and call logs to GMail
[Nexus One General] pjcforpres:
Fair enough. I am a huge car nut, and have a bit of a pack rat nature as well. So, I have a garage stall filled with spare parts for Volvo 240's, and then random bits from other cars that might be useable on a Volvo 240, or a future planned project car. As well, I have managed to gather a small pile, yes small, of tools.

I just never though SMS would be affected by a pack rat mentality. For me, it is one of the few things I do keep neat and clean. Hell, I am that guy that saves 1 of every different beer bottle he has ever had, and so forth. I got it from my mom, she had 3 giant plastic buckets filled with receipts from who knows how long(at least 15 years!)
[Nexus One General] midnite23:
I had this happen to me as well and I was pretty pissed. I'm a packrat by nature as well, so this didn't sit well with me. And it seemed to happen in a similar way with me. I was using chompsms and got a new text, read it, went back to my conversation list, and it was the only one in there, and even then that text was the only text in that conversation.

But I guess it was time to start over anyways, but with the kind of stuff I'm involved with, text records can be very important sometimes.
[Nexus One General] :
They're just texts, no one cares about them.
[Nexus One General] rossiscatch:
:confused::eek::D
[Nexus One General] bengrulz:
Sms backup saves all your texts to your gmail with an sms tag. It backs them up when theyre received so youll never lose them.
[Nexus One General] midnite23:
Clearly some people do.
[Nexus One General] :
That's my point.

Anything really important should never reside in a 160 character medium.
[Nexus One General] AndroidZ28:
Clearly, you've never heard of twitter....
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
Hello!? Those late night texts are never something that would hold up in court or anything, but they are worth their weight in gold on the "social blackmail" black market... ;)
[Nexus One General] midnite23:
...I fail to see your point as to why not. I often get very important stuff in the form of text messages.
[Nexus One General] BrooklynAvi:
My friend (who reads this forum) automatically backs up all his text messages to GMail. It's really annoying. I hate the fact that he backs up everything I say. I save mine for a week or two at most. After that I believe they are outdated and a complete waste of space (unlike email which can often be more important). I still have all my email going back to the very late 80s still saved; over 21 years.
[Nexus One General] SpyderMS:
Another user of SMS Backup here. Works fantastic. Won't need it anymore now that I've switched to Google Voice, but was great while it lasted, and honestly, which Google Voice worked similarly...