yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] psyminion:
total newb question

Will we lose the ability to flash a new Rom? Ie. does the perfected SPL remove the ability of the recovery?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daeshawn:
hmmm interesting ..if it is engineering SPL then we might be in luck
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] DaMonk:
Hmmm I just got the Rogers Update text message and is was only in French.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Taknarosh:
Yeah, IPs are given out by the service provider. In this case Rogers. Not the other way around.

It can't be a hardware or hard coded based identification (MAC address, IMEI).

The only way I can think of Rogers knowing if you upgraded or not by the Build Number (not to sure how).

I suppose theoretically, if someone can get a dump of the build, hotweiss or redglasses, and patch it into their ROMs and we upgrade to them and Rogers sees the build #. Then our 3G connection should be restored.

You'll get it in English soon after.

If you enjoy installing Custom ROMs you might want to hold of upgrading. There is confusion whether it's shipped with a perfected SPL.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kassemalaa:
is it possible to root it?

will it be possible to root the phone (eg. 1-click method)?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Teletran:
I just wanted to post a link to a thread on another forum where a user mentioned the following:

"I just called Rogers and told them what if I didn't want to update or I was running a custom rom. and they said if my internet is turned off just give them a call and they will turn it back on. "
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreckis604:
Guys my question is what happens if we have a custom rom.... for my sake i have the hofo rom, can we simply run this update and not have to worry??? I dont want to brick my phone!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daeshawn:
i would hold off until someone figures out if its a perfect spl or not. I would think hotwiess would be able to mod it so that we can install it without having to worry
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] DaMonk:
Confirmed form someone over at HowardForums

Firmware Version: 1.5

Radio: 6.35.10.18

HBoot: 1.76.0010
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daeshawn:
hmm new spl but can they confirm that it is perfected?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Dazog:
I posted it a page back.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] widowmaker777:
This better be true or I'm firing off an irate email and phone call.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kimchi0400:
Engineering SPLs generally have 1.xx.20xx, the 20xx prefix denoting an engineering SPL, right? This rom has 1.76.0010 SPL, which means it's not.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fatcow167:
do we need to unroot it first before updating?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kassemalaa:
will it brick my phone?

hey guys, i am using a custom rom (myHero) and i want to upgrade to the latest rogers update, since it will be optimized for our phone, i have 2 quastions mainly:

1:will it brick my phone (because of the spl)?

2:can i root the phone once updated, using the 1click method?

this is getting really confusing! :confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] aaziz:
There is so much confusion about this. Everyone should be posting there ROMs, Build Number, SPL, and radios to be clear on the different scenarios. I tried 3 times just a network refresh, that was not it. Perhaps it was only that the 4th time the tech had me also pull them SIM.

For the record, I had the stock radio and SPL that shipped with my phone, that is, 1.33.0010 perfect spl. I applied the patch, pulled SIM and battery during network refresh. Really, it's going to take people trying everyone different scenario (each time with a network refresh) to find out what works for them.

Whether you believe the patch is the fix, know it will NOT work with just applying the patch. You then have to ask for a network reset in order for the network to rescan it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] flewid:
so, i waited like 30 minutes with the battery out, after calling for the refresh, booted back up, and still no data.

as I mentioned before my win7 pc and my vista PC don't seem to see the device for HTC Sync so I can downgrade.

Is there anthing else I can do? I don't mind downgrading to 1.5 (i don't want to, but i want data).

Any help would be appreciated.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] zelrikriando:
I didnt call tech support...they redirected me there.

BTW, I have HBOOT-1.33.2005 and Hofo's rom. I dont know how to start from there...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] DorDroid:
Rogers latest ROM

Has anyone figured out how to root the magic with the Rogers latest rom (911 fix) ? Instructions are greatly appreciated!

Thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] flewid:
figured I should post my details;

Rogers HTC Dream (White)

Firmware: 1.6

Baseband Version: 62.50s.20.17u_2.22.19.26l

Kernel Version: 2.6.29-6-cm42 shade@toxygene )

Mod Version: CyanogenMod-4.2.13

Build: DRC 83
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
yea alot of the times they dont seem to actually do the network refresh - not all agents are equal as they say :P - - fyi u can only tell the refresh is done when u get disconnected on the call after they do it

my friend was told twice they did it but no dice

final time someone actually did it and it disconnected his call and he rebooted and data was working - you cannot always trust what someone tells you they will be doing

ive been using the 1.33.2010 with stock 32 a rooted radio and no problems since sunday after my refresh

you people over estimate the complexity of rogers system lol

fastest way to cx care is say "cancel my service" then "wireless" or "yes" depending on the question

anyone thinking of downgrading there is no need and it wont magically fix your data, youll just kick yourself with your unflashable unrootable phone with stock image
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jrochet:
Haha, I feel you there with regards to the contract wish:) I actually detest Rogers for plenty reasons other than this mandatory update. I'm not doing their update and I'm cancelling my data plan. Might try to argue them to waive the $100 cancellation fee just for fun.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] pg94au:
If the current thinking is that a network refresh is the solution to this problem (and that it may or may not have anything to do with actually updating your firmware), then is the implication that every single Dream/Magic owner will have to call Rogers support individually, before this is over? That seems improbable.

If this really is what is currently happening, wouldn't it stand to reason that at some point, Rogers will just do a mass network reset and be done with it?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] {ROn1N}:
HTC Magic 32A

Firmware: 2.1

SPL: 1.76.2007

Radio: 6.35.10.18

ROM: Kingklick's AOSP 2.1 port by ahmgsk

flashed the rogers rom without using their update (extracted then flashed boot.img, system.img and userdata.img via fastboot) and got my data back sunday evening.

then ran CursorSense 1.2, SuperD 1.6 for 6.35 radio and Kingklicks 2.1 AOSP also for 6.35 radio ported by ahmgsk.

I never had to call Rogers customer care to get my data back and haven't received any text messages or phone calls telling me to upgrade.

...knock on wood
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] smlt:
Magic

CM mod 4.2.13

Baseband: 62.525.20.18u_3.22.20.17

Kernel: 2.6.29.6-cm42

Build: drc92 3.05.631.7

Patched with bcrooks netfix2.

Powered off, pulled battery, pulled sim

Called rogers iphone support from home phone, asked for a network reset - he didn't ask any questions

3g has been up since maybe 12pm est (~11 hours thus far). Will post if I lose my connection

Edit: Did, however, get a call from rogers to update at 12:44pm and a text at 6:40pm
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] digitaljeff:
call again and ask for a network refresh from the iphone group

*611 --> technical support --> option 1

also there is workarounds to get htc sync to work on win 7, however default htc sync should work on win vista... if it doesnt then there is something either wrong with your usb ports or your usb cable...

good luck

-----------

EDIT

i still have data going strong over 48hrs after calling rogers for network refresh... running stock spl and radio w/ cm 4.2.13....no patches. although this could be because i am a stunningly handsome guy with exceptionally great persuasion skills *sarcasm*
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Thesniperz:
Running:

SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP50000)

CPLD-12

RADIO-3.22.20.17

Just called Fido yesterday morning and asked if they could do a network reset on my phone. She told me that we'll get disconnected and this "might not work" and once we got disconnected from the phone, i rebooted my phone and after a few seconds... voila! DATA!!!

i've received a few txt messages yesterday and today, but still haven't lost my data connection since..

**knock on wood!**
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] HyeProfile:
pg94au... I've already made this conclusion: http://howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=13459094&postcount=302

Chances are that just by disabling your data, Rogers creates enough of a mess to claim it's done its due diligence in this matter... If I were Rogers, I'd thread carefully, and make sure my legal staff are the best in the business, cause this smells like "class action" to me...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] smlt:
Well, the only people who aren't willing to update to the NEW rogers rom are the people who already got rid of the OLD rogers rom, and therefore don't have the 911 issue.

As much as I hate rogers. They HAVE been spamming texts, and HAVE been making automated calls. It just sucks that the modded community got dragged into the clusterfuck that is this debacle.

I doubt any "class action" regarding their ignorance towards the 911 issue would hold.

If they refuse to reconnect people JUST because they don't have the rom that rogers wants them to be running however...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
ive been telling people this since sunday but they keep on with their crazy theories
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] psyminion:
So my story is a lot less inspiring...

After updating my radio and spl, and applying cursor 1.2 I have not got my data back.

I called Rogers tech support yesterday, and the "helpful" agent told me that he could not do a network reset, and that my data would be restored in 24 hours.

Well 24 hours came and went, and nothing, so I called again.

Different guy, I explain that I did the update over 30 hours ago. He seemed to care, and after much convincing on my part, he agreed to do a network reset, after confirming my build # and IEMI.

I pulled the battery and sim and... nada.

I called and told them, and they assured me that it would be fixed by tonight since it didn't work when I pulled the battery.

Well its 10:30 and still nothing.

I'm FURIOUS.

Has this happened to anyone else?

Ps. I keep getting the text messages telling me to update.

Pps.. iPhone tech support won't help me.:(
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
yea lawsuit against rogers? dunno if youve read page 2 of your bill but unless they choose to goto court, all disputes resulting from your service are to be resolved by legally binding arbitration
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] OsirisAD:
I appreciate that folks are frustrated by this service interruption, but Rogers is required by CRTC regulation to ensure the proper operation of emergency service redirection (911), a service which saves lives and keeps people safe. The only way that Roger's can guarantee this service works for all of their registered customers is a mandatory software update, it's a minor inconvenience and we have all been credited for a month of data services as compensation for this.

Are we all done with this selfishness yet? How about we all stop whining and move on to what we can do to help get this new ROM rooted? :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] smlt:
It's just that they went about it in a terrible way. I can understand why they took away data services for anyone with the stock rogers 1.5 rom. But to I mean how hard is it to script their scanning service or whatever to be something like:

IF rom <= x THEN cut data

instead of

IF rom != y THEN cut data

where x is the latest rom with the 911 issue, and where y is the newest rogers rom.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mrashley:
The real question I and others are probably wanting to know is what to tell Rogers representative when asked what the build number is?

How sad that Rogers has pressed us to choose between lying to them, or our freedom of software choice.

Could someone say what I should tell the rep? I have a Dream. Also posting what a Magic owner might say would be helpful to some.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] androidandrogersdontmix:
my situation

I am running one of cyanogens roms on my phone i think 4.2.9.1(thanks to Bcrook...lifesaver haha). After calling rogers 3 seperate times trying to explain I dont have the 911 issue because im useing third party software and the glitch had already been fixed. Finally I get to a manager who then checks everything out and tells me on are network your data is no longer blocked it should be working fine. hmmmmmm I did no upgrade but apparently im no longer blocked. The only problem is my internet still is not working. They did a network refresh for me pulled the battery and still no luck. The manager took down all my info and said to try my sim in another rogers phone when I get home and he would call me today around 10am. I tried it last night in my dads Bold and didnt have internet on that either. I am now waiting patiently at work for my call so I can freak out about why I still have no internet. Why must rogers make are lives so hard. Has anyone else tried calling and just asking to check if your data is blocked they can just look that up because I have a strange feeling rogers may have ****ed up a bunch of stuff with this issue.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jasonwang:
where can I download this ROM?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jdbethun:
Just wanted to relay how I got mine working:

On Monday night (jan. 25) I put on CursorSense 1.2.1, and Tuesday I still didn't have internet access. Used the online tech support, they had me give them my build number, firmware version, and pull out the battery. Nada, no connection. He said that since it wasn't 24 hours yet, that I needed to wait, so I said fine.

Today I STILL didn't have a connection, went through online support again. Same deal, but this time they had me go here for some reason:

http://www.htc.com/ca/support/magic-rogers/downloads/

And ONLY enter my serial number in for my phone. Then when I put my battery back in and fired it up, I had my connection back. Now I don't know if it was the second battery pull or the serial number entering that did it. Interesting when I asked him if he did anything on his end, he assured me he didn't do a network reset or anything on his end. He then said it was because I entered my serial number?!

Take it with a grain of salt, cuz it just coulda been the second battery pull and he had no clue.

Thanks again to everyone on this forum, you've been a HUGE help.

In case you need it:

Firmware: 1.5

Baseband: 63.18.55.06KU_6.35.10.18

Kernel: 2.6.27-CCR32A-0.6

Build: 3.05.631.7
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shankara:
I installed CursorSense yesterday, called tech support, they told me to wait 24 hrs (they didn't wanted to do the network reset). today morning I still didn't had data, I turn off the phone, went into fastboot, and then I just restart my phone and my data was back right away.

Maybe going to fastboot is equivalent as removing battery + sim.

Thanks Cursor, I still have my root and now my data is back
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] smlt:
Just lost data ):

Lasted about 26 hours

Edit: Odd, turned off my phone, attempted to fast boot (which i probably screwed up.. it's not menu+power.. is it -_-) and now i have data back
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] stratux:
Just got 3G back TY NETWORK REFRESH WOOT WOOT AMON ROM 1.6 FTW
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] osokthedevil:
how to reload the rogers rom

does anyone have the original rogers ROM 1.6 and how would i reload it back into my dream. i want my data back. i have kernel version 2.6.29.2-cm42shade@toxygene

i just want to put my dream back to normal again the way rogers sell it to you or me

mode- cyanogenMode 4.2.13

build- DRC83

some one hit me up with a link or something would be nice thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shankara:
fastboot is "power + back" or "power + volumen down", either way will go into fastboot
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] novadoc:
"update" with and old rom

im one of the unlucky ones that updated to the new rogers rom, i still have an old update on my computer from way back when.

is there any way to downgrade my phone using this old OFFICIAL update from rogers?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] wolfier:
I don't feel one bit sad or guilty or anything about lying to Rogers. Between us lying to them and our freedom of software choice, of course we should pick software choice without even a second thought.

Of course you don't have to lie to them. Rogers asked you to apply an update, and you applied an update (Cursordroid's, not theirs). You tell the rep you applied an update. You don't lie to them but they'll still think you've applied their update. It's just their misinterpreting what you've said, so zero guilt and no lying on your part.

When they ask for the Build number just tell them Cursordroid's build number, it appears to be identical to Roger's update, anyway.

You don't have to lie to be deceptive. I do it all the time.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hotweiss:
48 hours later I still have no data.... I called them up today, and they will be escalating this issue.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
sorry shoulda took my advice on multiple threads which said it had nothing to do with the rom at all and only requires a refresh ;)

untill someone comes up with a root for the new firmware your sol because the one click root was fixed
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] novadoc:
no one to blame but myself, kinda jumped the gun without thinking of the consequences

is there any information about anyone working on this problem? I've been kicking my own a$$ for updating, but i think if we knew that someone was working on a fix not only would we be very grateful, but it would set a lot of minds at ease also.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] psyminion:
After more than 3 days I finally got my data back!

They told me I was on the same trouble ticket as 176 other people.

Said it was HTC that gave the update, interestingly enough.

Anyways they are actually trying.... dispite what I originally thought.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mrashley:
I mean to say that it's disappointing to me that I can't own a piece of hardware which I picked based on it's (relative) openness and have it stay online without restoring to trickery.

I did call Rogers and ask for a reset. The tech specifically asked for my build number. I told him. He told me that it's not the official one, so he couldn't reset my network connection. I called Fido the next day and the tech helpfully reset my network connection, but my data is still not back.

If this foolishness isn't resolved shortly then I shall throw in the hat, cancel my plan and I'll be very specific as to why. I would encourage anyone else to do the same.

It's upsetting to me that I can't run my hardware in the responsible, and social way that I prefer without the approval of a gatekeeper. If I wanted that then I would have bought an IPhone. The culture of permission we find ourselves more and more immersed in is a real societal ill, and I for one intend to confront it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dobrin25:
3G update

Hey guys,

I had the same problem with no data 3 days after performing the mandatory update.

Because I have Windows 7, i had to perform the useleslly complex procedure of updating.

Anyways, after the update was done, I still had 3 days without data.

Turning off and then back on did nothing.

Simple solution (for me anyways): turn off phone, remove battery, remove sim card, wait 10 min, reassemble, turn on phone and VOILA!

ya....very pointless instructions but they worked for me

hope it helps others
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] atesgoral:
This is an insult to the savvy Android owner

I was thinking the exact same thing. The reason I bought an Android instead of an iPhone was the freedom. Now that's being taken away from me.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Gormanimal:
Alright, so I was a dummy and applied to Rogers rom without thinking they would mess with my current SPL. I know I cannot put any custom roms on it anymore until I get that fixed. Is anyone working on that? Is there anything I can try? Any way to make a goldcard and reflash that way?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] atesgoral:
Confirmed: CursorSense + pulling out battery & SIM brings back 3G

As as Rogers user, I lost my data connection a couple of days ago.

Just updated to CursorSense (along with radio + SPL updates of course ) last night and still didn't have data this morning. I tried the battery+SIM pulling out trick and now I have my data connection back!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] zuk_:
Apparently I "passed" the scan using a hacked build.prop/build.sapphire.prop -- rogers tech support is telling me that my account is no longer locked out. However I still have no data. I tried getting tech support to do a network reset, pulled the battery a million times, etc.

I suspect that it might take more than just passing the scan to get things working. i.e. Maybe a radio upgrade is required (although I've read postings vaguely suggesting that the radio upgrade is not the issue, so I dunno...)

Anyway I'm still without data. Just about ready to throw this piece of **** phone out the window and go buy an iPhone.

...

Running CM 4.2.13

FastBoot shows:

SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP50000)

CPLD-12

RADIO-3.22.20.17

Jun 2 2009, 17:28:28
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Mihalavr:
Have you setup APN correctly?

Try this APN: internet.com for both Name and APN.

Don't forget to save it. :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] zuk_:
^ thanks, but no dice :(

didn't work with the original apn settings either (rogers-core-appl1.apn)

I'm starting to think it might have something to do with the HBOOT version shown in my fastboot screen. Mine says SAPP50000 but I think most people see something else there.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jbrnd:
Exactly the same thing happened to me. They tell me I should have data, but I don't. I think I'll just play cool for a while and see what happens.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] d4mn3d:
How I understand this, the upgrade will change my radio to RADIO-3.22.26.17 so the cyanogenmod 4.2.13 EB0 that is currently on my Dream will not be compatible with this version.

The only people that seems to get this fix working are on EB1. Since on a cyanogenmod 4.2.13 EB0 with radio 2.22.19.26I, I'm a bit afraid of break things.

And since I don't mind being in EB1 from now on would it be more simple to skip the last part where we reapply the EB0 radio and instead do a recover of my cyanogenmod + apply rad-4.2.13-ebi1-withcontacts.zip ???

Does someone know if this would work?