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[Touch HD Android Development] xiadz:
hym...

It is just loud thinking, i have some experience with Cisco wireless networking (i am cisco small affiliate) and basing on my knowledge there, wifi should work on bursts ( packets) cos it is engineered to work like that, and there is a standard 3 modes of operation of a wifi infrastructure that is :

i. burst when needed - it connects to the network only when there is need to exchange data, and connects to the last remembered connection point in buffer that was working, it is like a sleeping mode but ready to go if needed

ii. Connected but burst only, what saves the power, cos it exchange the data with router on set time co for example once a minute to maintain connection, and check availability of new data waiting.

iii. Constant on- witch i think it is the issue hire- the constant one is best for data exchange but destroying for the battery, it needs a loath of power, it constantly exchanges/maintaining data connection

The other thing is power of the signal, it can, not only affect the range of connection and the perception of the data , but also affect the battery it self .

By lowering power of emission of the wifi signal we can gain in longer life of battery, but at the moment we cant choose those factors so that our wifi emission is not optimized, it is as i think maximum throughput and constant on

what is as I believe the biggest issue hire wit our problem with battery life.....

as for the battery level, in other topic i saw that you can put command in that you will trick the phone that it is always connected to the charger,( i cant find it now, if anyone know where is it please help and put the link ) but I believe that it was just way to avoid misleading level of the battery measure , not to extend the life of the battery itself.

hymm....

if you look in to more advanced settings in wifi on Winmo you will find that there is one that you can adjust power level in " Power Mode" and that is the power that our Blackstone uses to broadcast the wifi signal. :cool:

I believe that until some of the big boys, which know how to wrote a program that will steer and use the factors that i wrote in first part of this loud thinking, we will not have any substantial breakthrough with battery life with wifi on on our ported android devices.

hymm... and for thous who will ask... ;) All wifi devices have this abilities , they are written in to the wifi standard devices!!!

Regards to all an i hope that my loud thinking will help :)
[Touch HD Android Development] HD69:
:) Awesome

Thank you so much Danro80.. for explaining everything.. now i gain a lil more knowledge :)

I really like to learn more about windows mobile.. any clue or tip where i can get those information will be highly appreciated..
[Touch HD Android Development] HD69:
Thank you very much for a very clear explaination.. Man the more i get into this the more interesting it is.. dang fun.. :) thanks all for helping a noob like me out.. Appreciate that..
[Touch HD Android Development] Spidersoft:
Uh first post :o

First of all, great work!

I just want to let you know, pin code works for me ;)

I'm running Android on a Touch HD.
[Touch HD Android Development] itetcboo:
I have observed a possible bug/issue y dev tools / Terminal emulator...

I change the size and color of screen in preferences, but has no effect in the emulator, and I can't write numbers in command line, to do for example a kill -9 pid_battery_process... anyone have observed something like that?
[Touch HD Android Development] mkort:
Just installed the 2.c version and it realy works well!

I miss the agenda items like they are in WMo.

Just one question.

How can I set the top button (the one on top of the device) to activate the sleep mode? Just like it was in WinMo?

I now have set the "red" button to put the device at sleep mode.

tnx!
[Touch HD Android Development] banes:
HAI GUYZ THIS CRAPPY ANDROID BUILD IS MESSED UP MY BATTERY ONLY LASTS FOR 30 MINS WITH WIFI ON AND PLAYING UTUBES!!11 PLEASE FIX!!2121

JK, couldn't help but parody a lot of what I have read on these forums

I effing LOVE LOVE LOVE my android build on my HTC Fuze, and I basically use it for every day use. I am very new to the world of cell phone tweaking, but I have never had any problems installing this or getting it to work thanks to the collaborators for this project. I think a lot of has to do with just following the instructions as closely as possible, though. I don't mind the missing GPS or Camera. I don't really have a problem with the battery either since I constantly use Advanced Task Manager to kill my apps, and never leave wifi on. Plus, I have a car charger, a wall charger in my room, and at work, a spare 10 dollar batery, and a 10 dollar external battery charger that plugs into the wall. It's a bit of overkill, but I can't afford to lose power since I am attached at the umbilical cord to my phone. So yes I am tremendously grateful to the keepers of this development, and those who help to compile the information. Brilliantmistake your cabs make life so much easier.

I actually would like to contribute back to the community if I can, but unfortunately I am no programmer. One thing I thought I might help with is since I religiously check for updates of all the latest Android rom files, I was wondering if anyone would like me to create an RSS or twitter account to broadcast when new releases come out? If anyone thinks they could use this, let me know and I'll start it up.

I did have a few questions, however. Does anyone have this problem with flickering on playback? My phone becomes like a strobe light when I play videos, no matter what media player I use and I have had this problem with all the Android versions I have installed. I tried searching, but I didn't find anything on it. Is this just my install that's doing that since I did not see it mentioned as one of the known problems? I suppose it's not really a big deal, but I thought it would be cool to fap to my Android, THEN it would be the ULTIMATE PDA lol jk. Also, does anyone know of a way to use wifi tethering? I don't want to have to install a different winmo version than Michyprima's winmo lite bootloader just to be able to tether :( Anyway, thanks again to all the devoted developers, and to those who compile the information and make it as digestible as possible for us noobs.
[Touch HD Android Development] whitefalcon:
Wht did u do???? did u put it on continuous charging or wht.... how long hve you installed and ran android???
[Touch HD Android Development] samizzlah:
can I use the usb connection on Diamond with Android on? I cant find any device on my computer when I connect it, only on WinMo

When is a new update coming with new features and hopefully better battery life? :D sorry, just can't wait for a android OS running smooth on my old diamond :cool:
[Touch HD Android Development] banes:
Re: Android 2.1 (Eclair) On HTC [19 Apr 2010] (V2.1c)

lol ya i cant understand why my battery dies so quickly while running wifi with the flash light app running and this new massaging app that continuously vibrates (hey that could be a good app for girls only marketed differently haha) im kidding of course my battery life is decent, ive never really checked how long it goes but i would say half a day, its probably because i use 3g, switching to 2g messes up my data plan for some reason and i cant get connected, then when it does connect its a pain in the arse to switch back to 3g, thanks for your help but my mine problems are playback flickering and still on the hunt for a wifi tethering app that works for this build

btw samizzla, ive read that u can only charge through usb but cant exchange data so u have to switch to winmo to connect that way, OR if ur on a wifi network, swiftp is an excellent app to upload files to ur sim via wifi so u dont have to reboot into winmo, it has an internet connection option too but i havent tested

Sent from my AOSP on XDANDROID MSM using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Touch HD Android Development] Zaiaku:
Finally tried this out early yesterday morning and been messing with it almost all day. Atleast I'm able to experience an android phone myself. Especially since its using the exact same phone with WinMo its really lets me give something to compare to it. So thank you very much for that.

Installed just fine. First run took about 4+min abd start time is about 1min. I really like being able to try out android apps now.

First off it's very responsive. Cmpare to WinMo + Sense2.5 it was alot more responsive then I would of guessed. Although couldn't find an equal for all the apps I used in WinMo did find some for most. Becuase of the problem with battery status I wasn't able to really test out how battery life would compare. I look forward to the updates.

I will definitely be able to give it a real test while at work tommorrow. Hopefully it wont kill my battery.

One thing I need help with is how to I re-align the touch screen? I messed up on one of the boxes and wasn't paying attention to what I was doing.
[Touch HD Android Development] sunnymiu:
This one is really stable! But all I needed is a HTC Sense-included.
[Touch HD Android Development] banes:
What apps are you looking to replace? I've done a bit of research on apps, and there are a lot that aren't on the market. What battery problem prevented you from testing the battery?

As for recalibrating the touch screen, just go into the root of your SD card and delete the ts-calibration file
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Do you REALLY?

What is sense really giving you? there's nothing it offers that you can't recreate with other widgets.

It's nice... but it's not the be all and end all, and it kills the performance at the moment.

As soon as a stable version appears, that runs quickly, I'll release it, but honestly, at the moment, it's just not worth it.
[Touch HD Android Development] spideyngo:
This post = me laughing my arse off

Brilliant Mistake = awesome
[Touch HD Android Development] Zaiaku:
It's very stable except for there's no battery optimizing. It kills battery pretty fast. Was down to 40% only after 6 hours with maybe just a few text messages.

call recorder w/o having to use speaker.

Something like S2U2, locc screen with random pictures

That's about it for me
[Touch HD Android Development] ebpomtl:
I got a quick question, probably stupid, but since I don't know a thing about Android, I'll ask.

Until the battery's problem gets resolved, is there anyway to make Android shutdown when it THINK there's no more battery and instead let the phone itself shutdown?

I don't know if you get what I'm saying :D
[Touch HD Android Development] wyfwyf007:
screen stopped at the first screen(android)... i waited for 20 mins.... no progress.....
[Touch HD Android Development] ucanthang29:
cant get this to work on my tilt 2 keep saying force close.
[Touch HD Android Development] mrdidel:
I decided to give this one a try. It is my first experience with android so far, and so far soo good :)

I tried it on my HTC Blackstone (HTC HD), and i installed the cab- version. My provider is Vodafone (Netherlands) .

My comments:

Installation went smooth. I got some error and winmo told me it needed something else to display the error itself, but i pressed continue and android installed smoothly. I booted it up, configured android and i actualy had no problems :) It got me through the sim-lock pin enter phase without any problem, which is good (as it is reported as error)... I played around with it for a while, and noticed 2 things i'd see as bugs (with low priority though):

1: When you choose the alarm in clock, the days for which the alarm should play are not stated as MON, TUE, WED, but as 1, 2, 3... This is quite weird if you ask me, or is this some weird android way of thinking?

2: Live wallpapers don't seem to work. OR at least not all of them. The strange clock of bows worked fine, the rest didn't.

Last: the whole issues-list with my personal experience:

Known Issues

SDCard - No problems with it :)

Camera - Not tried

GPS - Not tried

Battery Status - dont know yet, my battery was very low when i started to play around, so in a sudden it stopped, and it took me a while to realise my battery was empty :P

Audio - not tried with music, but the beep sound of the volume buttons worked, seemed to have some lag in it though

Deep Sleep - works... It's a little strange that the hang-up button also puts the phone in deep sleep mode, but that's ok for now.

GPRS - not tried

3G - Working... I even accidentally started up the browser, and i know it works :) Bad thing though is that that will cost me a few euros extra on my bill... but it works :)

PIN Code - Working :D (even though it is an issue)

GSensor - Working

Bluetooth - turned it on and off (without problems), but didn't try sending data through it or something

OpenGL ES - Ah, that's probably why live wallpapers don't work :)

USB - not tried yet

Headphone Socket - not tried yet neither

Application Errors: none so far :)

Cannot choose ringtones: Not tried, but i played around with the alarm settings and noticed each alert-tone is stated twice in the list :S

I hope to have been of any help :) If anyone has a question or a request for me to perform a certain action, please let me know :)
[Touch HD Android Development] bennyj71:
Android novice..

I loaded cab on My Tilt2. Do you log into your Google account with app? Secondly, I have no network connection.
[Touch HD Android Development] itetcboo:
Unlock pin code works for me too. I have a Blackstone too.
[Touch HD Android Development] mrdidel:
That's strange, I have no problem logging in with my google- account. And i have no problem with the network connection, i have called my phone without any problem... The only thing is that the sensitivity of the slide to accept phonecall- screen is a little strange, it only seems to react to the small arrow next to the green phone icon, and not to the rest of the button... Same goes for the reject call button...
[Touch HD Android Development] bennyj71:
Do you log into your account when the set up screen comes on? I skipped it because didn't know how android works. First time using it.
[Touch HD Android Development] mrdidel:
No, i also skipped the login-procedure during the install and initial setup. But after that you can just go into android and turn on your WiFi (or just use your mobile's phone internet connection like 3G or UMTS) and set up your account... You can do so by for example setting up an email- account, or probably the easiest way is to go into the android market, and you will be asked to set up a google- account (without logging in with your google- account, you can't access the market). So after that, you'll be allright :)
[Touch HD Android Development] nutzy73:
What does "Blackstone Overclocked" do ? Does it overclock my bastard or I must choose it only if I've overclocked it myself ?

Thank's.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
It will overclock it for you.
[Touch HD Android Development] aitax85:
I can't power off the phone from android's menu?? Only from softreset??
[Touch HD Android Development] Burnie-Bernhard:
Working on HD2

Hey

can I run this on my HD2 ?

I've tested it, but all I get is a black screen and I realy want to test it.

thy
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Read the opening post.

Soft reset only (as with ALL current XDAndroid releases)

HD2? no, totally different processor, totally wrong thread. And the question has been asked many many times.
[Touch HD Android Development] aitax85:
sorry I missed
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
no worries
[Touch HD Android Development] zhapness:
Hi i have had several versions of android installed on my HD but they all get stuck after a short time of use, any solutions for that? maybe i am using the wrong zImage?

Edit/Delete Message
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Stuck in what way?

If you follow the instructions on the opening post, TO THE LETTER, then it will work, I promise you. The only time it may not work is when you have an incompatible SD Card, in which case, you won't even get as far as seeing Android running.
[Touch HD Android Development] mrdidel:
Indeed... On my HD i had no problems... Just download the .cab, save it on your phone, install it on your *clean* sd-card, navigate to the sd card root and launch haret, and off you'll go! that's all :)
[Touch HD Android Development] bennyj71:
I don't have WIFI, but my phone says no connection. It shows two bars and it registers on ATT network. Like I said I've never really used Android before so I don't know how to troubleshoot the problem.
[Touch HD Android Development] Amann:
when i try to enter the Android market is sais:

Background data disabled

Market needs background data to be enabled.

But i am connected with my Wifi router and when running WM6.5 i can use the market there, youtube, browser and so on...

but on android it doesnt work... :confused:
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Are you sure you started with a CLEAN install? and not on top of an old android release?

What device?

What operator / network?

What other apps have you installed in android (if any)?

It is REALLY helpful if you try to describe precisely what you've done... otherwise it's like saying "My car just crashed"... did the brakes work? did the steering work? etc etc.

YOu have to appreciate that this build is working in multiple countries on multiple devices with lots of different configurations and variations of phone hardware versions.

in 90% of cases, folks skipped parts of the instructions and installed over old stuff etc.
[Touch HD Android Development] arno76:
Android on Blackstone

Hello,

Thks for this version of Android, on my Blackstone whith:

WM 6.5 Pro

ROM XTROM leo 2.5 WWE

Radio 1.09.25.14

Manila 2.5.19222911.0

everything works well (except for Battery which does down very quikly)

bye
[Touch HD Android Development] andrepazleal:
Is this ported to the PXA300 processor...? It will work on a t3238 Jade Clone...?
[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
No. This one is MSM7k only.
[Touch HD Android Development] catchimanshu:
android is failing in setup

hi

im trying to set android on my hd

but it is failing with following note while running setup in dos format

'failed to find rootfs on SD card. you need to unzip a rootfs zip file to the root of your sd card'

kindly help
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Follow the instructions properly

CLEAN SD Card

ONLY install to SD Card (not your phone)

If you used the zip file, extract to the root of your SD card (no other place) and make sure you extract all subdirs too.
[Touch HD Android Development] LotusElise99008:
Can anyone please kindly tell me how to install application? I can't sync with my PC....
[Touch HD Android Development] WaierYong:
:p i want you are a good man
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
The instructions are very clear on the opening page.

You do not need your PC to install.

You need to copy the cab (or the zip) to your SD Cards and install or extract there.

If you install with the cab, put the cab on your SD card and run it... choose 'Install to SD Card', then when installation is almost complete, choose your device type from the list.

If you install with zip, extract the zip to your SD Card (in the root of your SD card), then run the autosetup.exe program to choose your device type.

That's all there is to it.

If this is too complicated (which it can be for some users), I would strongly advise that you DON'T install Android.
[Touch HD Android Development] pumper1128:
Sorry...i can't open the megaupload

when i open the web site for dowloand

it will appear "This service is temporarily not available from your service area."

May i available download from other web site>?
[Touch HD Android Development] LotusElise99008:
Sorry mate, I think you got me wrong. What I'm talking about is INSTALLING APPLICATIONS INTO THE ANDROID, NOT INSTALLING THE ANDROID. Thanks for your help anyway.
[Touch HD Android Development] wyfwyf007:
how can i start android without connect to internet?

the first time i started android, it asked me to login google account, can i use wifi to login?
[Touch HD Android Development] mrdidel:
Yes, you can use wifi to log into your google account. It is of no difference weather you use wifi or your 3G/UMTS connection to log in.

And yes, you can also use android without internet connection, but it is much more fun if you have one ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] wazzay2k1:
I cant seem to get past the google log on part.... Just seems to do an infinite loop asking the same questions....

Any ideas?
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
I can't test it on my device without losing data, but during the setup, there's an option somewhere to go through a tutorial, and there's a skip option in there somewhere. We all managed to get past it, so don't lose faith, its not so hard to find.

Once you get past the setup, you can then configure your wifi, or create your google accounts using the the 'settings' tools in Android.

Good luck, and keep playing, you'll figure it.
[Touch HD Android Development] Ni7ro X:
If you get that problem just restart the phone and boot into haret again, I've had it happen to me before.
[Touch HD Android Development] looker1:
wrong time zone

Hi all,

anyone can help me how to correctly set up time zone in Android? WM is ok, when running Android always +2hour added. When changed manually - back in WM it is -2hrs...:-( Thanks for your help!
[Touch HD Android Development] Esod:
When you are in Android, keep 3 seconds the end call bouton and touch the "Shutdown" =)

Sound don't work for me =( Touch Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium).
[Touch HD Android Development] dotdotdog:
How can I turn on the audio?

After installing the Android, cannot play the ringtone and music, i can select the ringtone but no voice~ when call in, my phone is mute at all, is it any workout on this?
[Touch HD Android Development] 69hollov:
Well,very nice work:D,but my battery last for about 2-3 hours:confused:,can someone tell me what should i do!. Thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] 69hollov:
sorry ,found the link:o
[Touch HD Android Development] amaher15:
Been using for about 30 minutes now. I've been waiting for this for about a year on my raph now and it totally rocks. Thanks so much for all the hard work guys, I wish there was a way I could help!

Andrew
[Touch HD Android Development] godwai:
try it frist
[Touch HD Android Development] fredbe1981:
I did install the *.cab version.

Work greats - no major problem so far !

Thanks for the great job !
[Touch HD Android Development] Sternchen66681:
Android 2.2 News

Performance 450% gesteigert!

Wahsinn oder?

winfuture.de/news,55376.html
[Touch HD Android Development] Sternchen66681:
Android 2.2 News

For english speakting Peoble:

Android 2.2 is coming up with a performance boost (450%).

Great!
[Touch HD Android Development] nico4k:
anyone successfully boot using Diam500 (sprint diamond)

has anyone had any success starting android on a DIAM500 (sprint)?

i keep getting this error "failed to mount sd card" at startup

any help is appreciate it!

:D
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Did you install via Cab or Zip?

If Zip, did you run the auto-setup after installation?

Did you install to SD Card root?
[Touch HD Android Development] Shival:
Blackstone Waiting for Sd Card

I tried the two fixes and neither worked to get Android running.

Have no idea what I am doing wrong.

Installed using the Cab method

Zip link does not work.

I used a completely formatted 8gb card in fat32, didn't work, tried adding lines to startup text, didn't work.

Formatted the card using the tool, didn't work, Added lines to startup text, didn't work.

My current ROM is Topix 3.6 w/o HTC Messaging.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[Touch HD Android Development] deepsix_69:
tried out the new cab on a touch pro 800. It installed great and seemed fast, but I couldnt get the headphones to work. I tried the snd.force.... but no joy, the music just mutes when the headphones are in, I will go back to the old build where it worked.