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[G1 Android Development] Sleeepy2:
I completely agree.

Unfortunately for me rogers was the leaser of the 3 evils at the time. They all suck compared to the USA and Europe rates but hopefully Wind and Dave (or what ever they are changing it to) will provide some actual competition so all 5 will have lower and more competitive rates.

The fact is that the big three don't want you changing your rom period. we can all ***** and complain that now we can't or they won't let us but the fact is they don't want you to and you are the one that signed up for that in the first place. oh but android is open source... yes very good you win 1 free internet (spend it wisely). The problem is your not using open source android you are using a rogers phone with custom HTC software that isn't open source. If you wanted a fully open phone go by it from google or where ever not rogers.

But rogers shut down my data. Boo hoo, get over it. you get a free month's worth of data for that 1-3 days. What it a **** thing for rogers to do. Yes it was. Was it right for them to do it. Technically no but they have legalese crap in the contract that you signed to be able to weasel there way out of that.

If your reading this than you are probably modding your phone how many millions of times are you told not to use an official update before the people that are smart enough to figure out what it does tell you it's safe. That goes for any modding, PSP, iPhone, any other phone.

If you updated and can't get root any more it's your own damn fault and stop crying to everyone and wait until someone smart enough figures out if it's possible and how to do it.

For my phone i bricked it a few days before this whole thing started so it gave me a good excuse to ask for a new one. I am sure I will get a fully updated one that can't be rooted yet but I didn't get this phone because you could root it, I got it because I liked it before I even knew you could root it.
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
all good facts, but you missed something

rogers is targetting rooted/unlocked phones

why is it they are only coming after us *dream/magic* users?

iphones are jailbroken.

blackberrys have crap done to them

all different makes of phones are unlocked

it was wrong of them to target a specific phone manufacture cause they found a little loophole

if they are going to come down on people for using custom things on their phones, go after everyone at once, not like the way they handled it.

/end rant.
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
Just a side note.

I call into rogers today and asked about the credit for data and he gave me 2 months free unlimited data
[G1 Android Development] Unicornasaurus:
The thing is, Apple is already targeting jailbroken users..they break your jailbreak every patch. The only reason why Rogers isn't taking a bigger stance against it is because Apple controls the software, and it's an Apple branded device. Rogers is just merely selling it for use on their network.

As for Blackberry's..they all run on the Blackberry OS, just with different modifications.

Lots of phones are unlocked too, but if it's not a Rogers branded phone, then to them it just appears as a "Grey Market" phone..meaning no support whatsoever on their end. It'll work on their network, but if it breaks or anything goes wrong - it's your fault.

I don't think they were targeting Magic/Dream users specifically, it's just that they saw an opportunity and they took it.
[G1 Android Development] dash4g:
Talked to rogers, got a $100 credit to my account because of the mess up, they were not budging an inch on the breach of contract story I was giving them. I was on the phone for about an hour (75% of the time I was waiting on hold).

Overall I am not happy that I could not cancel the contract without waving the cancellation fee, however I dont think I could have gotten that far without taking them to court. I encourage everyone to get more than a months worth of charges credited to their account for this mixup.

For the record- Did a network refresh over a week ago, and still 3G'ing strong with Cyanogen.
[G1 Android Development] DefconZero:
So I figured I would try this, as I have received my magic, and can use that while experimenting on my dream to figure out this issue.

Flashed the new 3.22 radio, and the recovery img, already have the 2005 SPL.

I can see that I have the 3.22 as this is what fastboot shows me:

DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF

HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)

CPLD-4

RADIO-3.22.26.17

I rebooted, and got the rogers screen.

Figured I would do a wipe, and flash a new rom. Rogers screen.

Tried a different rom, Rogers screen.

Is there something I did wrong? I can still access both fastboot, and the recovery, but not normal boot.
[G1 Android Development] dash4g:
Try searching, or making a new thread, your problem will most likely get lost in this thread
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
grr

Well, I'm running radio 3.33 and I just lost data services as well, so that rules that out I guess.

I'm going to wait till tomorrow as well, to see if data comes back.
[G1 Android Development] Tolarian:
I have a Dream 32B with latest CM and I lost my data connection an hour ago or so. Been on hold for 60+ mins on the phone now, haven't spoken with anyone yet. I hope that by telling them that I'm running a custom firmware, they'll be able to re-enable the data on my phone.
[G1 Android Development] :
lost my connection also. i really hope for them they will re-enable the internet cause this smells like a class action suit if they don't , i didn't spend 80$ and a 3 year contract to be told what i can and cannot do with my own goddamn phone
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
Don't hold your breath. I fought with them for 5 hours yesterday about this. They weren't willing to be at all reasonable.

I suppose if enough of us call in, it might make some difference.

We should organize a time for everyone to call in at the same time :)
[G1 Android Development] ViXXoR:
I'm running ADP1 on Rogers, latest CM. I'm in Sudbury (~4 hours north of Toronto for those of you who are geographically challenged ;)), it's 2:40pm here, and I still have my data working. I only get EDGE as the ADP1 doesn't support the 850/1900 MHz range, but it is still working.
[G1 Android Development] Tolarian:
I finally spoke with someone and I was told that even through my version is more recent than what they provide, their system is basically only letting the phones with the exact version from their site connect to 3G "until they are sure that everyone has upgraded".

That could mean that no custom firmwares will be able to have a data connection for a while, or until someone releases a ROM with the right version number. I think that they are checking the build number but I'm not sure.
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
I recommend everyone just pressure Rogers into not being idiots.

Call customer support (888-764-3771), escalate to the Office of the President, and escalate further to the Office of the Ombudsman. If you still don't have data, bring the issue to the Commissioner for Complaints for Telecommunications Services (CCTS - 1-888-221-1687).

BRad Barnett was correct in stating that there is court precedence for this kind of thing. I'd much rather pressure Rogers into doing whats right, instead of having to continue hacking our phones further, to remain on the Rogers network.

I'm on the phone with Rogers again, making sure Roger and I understand each other. I'll be filing a complaint with the CCTS tomorrow morning.
[G1 Android Development] :
would it be possible to do a collective complaint? this is BS , we pay for the right to use the network 99% of the time from a phone rogers sold us, we're not slowing the network down or introducing interference to it, all we do is use the FULL potential of an OPEN SOURCE phone! I hate canadian corps and their monopoly on things. Its not like they are loosing money.
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
Call in right now :) That is the only collective complaint. Once they've refused to resume your data services, tell them you'll be filing a complaint with the CCTS tomorrow morning.

You should be able to get as far as the Office of the President this afternoon.

Their lines are hella busy right now, which I suspect indicates a LOT of angry G1 users.

Call in! Right now! If you have nothing to do today, keep calling, all day! Waste their time like they're wasting ours.
[G1 Android Development] :
im just going to withhold my monthly payment , make them wait for the money, ill just tell them im currently upgrading my financial network and i apologize for the inconvenience :D
[G1 Android Development] Tolarian:
Now, even if I want to run their update software, I don't even know how... The RUU doesn't find my phone.

This is officially a pain. I'll be filling a complaint tomorrow with the CCTS.
[G1 Android Development] godofthesms:
i also have been cut off ... i was runnign with 2.01 and wanted to go back to 1.6 after flashing to the latest cyanogen i realized my data is OUT!

MF rogers!
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
i lost data earlier today, running on wifi most of this morning

my radio is radio-2.22.19.261

rogers branded htc dream.

not happy with rogers this week, all problems, now this.
[G1 Android Development] godofthesms:
Can anyone confirm they have tried this fix and it works on Roger g1?
[G1 Android Development] BRad Barnett:
First, some info. I'm with Fido, and I'm running the latest Cyanogenmod. I upgraded by flashing my radio as well, so my phone does have a non-Rogers radio.

I was recently disconnected, about 2 hours ago. I called Fido support, and spoke to a woman. She was helpful, but a bit uncertain of everything, which is often the case.

I explained that I was using a t-mobile G1, which I have had for over a year. I also explained that I could not patch with this new Rogers rom, because it would destroy my t-mobile based G1.

I also explained that my t-mobile based G1, had an update 5 months ago for this particular issue, and that I have no 911 issues as a result.

She called up tech support, and they reactivated my data service. I'm fine as of right now.
[G1 Android Development] gmupps:
Rogers branded HTC Dream.

HSPL 10.95.3000

RADIO 2.22.19.261

Dwang's ROM, 1.17.1

So far, I have called Rogers, they have told me that in order to have data turned back on, I need to update to their newest firmware. They implied that once my data was back on, I would be able to revert back to the ROM I had been using before. I see now, after reading this thread, that I won't be able to do that very easily. I foresee a lack of bill payment in my future, as well as a complaint to CCTS. We shall see...
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
I was considering doing this as well. I could just tell them I bricked my Rogers G1, and am now using my own hardware from another provider, on the Rogers network. Will try it to see how it works out.
[G1 Android Development] godofthesms:
not paying your bill will just get your services supended and a head ache yelling at the retard lvl1 support.

No matter the way you see it you need to play by their rules or else!

What we need is a fix, whether it be radio update or spl update i dunno but we need something =)
[G1 Android Development] gmupps:
I like this idea. I think I'll call back, escalate the call, and see what that gets me.
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
True, one person not paying their bill will go nowhere, but a thousand or so, would turn some heads.

Its always a bad idea to allow the telecoms (or any evil corporation) to dictate the rules. There are laws in place to prevent Rogers from doing this. Force them to abide by them, or waste their entire day by calling repeatedly, and then file a complaint with the CCTS/CRTC. The CCTS/CRTC won't care if "I" have a problem with Rogers business practices, but they will take notice if a thousand people phone in on the same day to file a group complaint.

If my service isn't back up tomorrow, I'll be filing my complaint, and I'll see about making it an open/group complaint to which everyone else can simply just call in and add their mark to the tally.
[G1 Android Development] xaueious:
If you have the EBI1 radio (3.x) installed you need to install the EBI1 kernel.
[G1 Android Development] alan090:
Can you get better than my plan?

17.00 Corporate Rogers

250 mins

unl 6pm e/w

call display

voicemail

10c/min LD

unl company calling

50 sent/unl recieved text

Free:

250 messages (picture/video/text)

6gb of data

30$

when it comes down to it im only paying around 60$ a month over which of half is my data

not to mention ive gotten 2 phones outta the past 6 months ;D

and i will be getting the xperia x10 as soon as its released as i have my account ready to go once it is ^^
[G1 Android Development] beav_35:
I just made a new wiki page on upgrading the radio on Rogers dreams. I tried to make it very detailed so that anyone can follow it. I think it should be good but let me know if there are any errors or feel free to make the corrections yourself. :)

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Upgrade_Rogers_Dream_Radio
[G1 Android Development] gmupps:
I apologize for the thread jack. I didn't think this merited its thread when it's a couple of fairly simple questions...

2 Questions...

1 Does this radio work with HSPL10.95.3000? I'd rather not flash a different SPL unless absolutley necessary.

2 Does the EBI1 kernel work with ROMS other than Cyanogen's? I currently use Dwang's rom and would rather not switch if I can avoid it.
[G1 Android Development] westway11:
I'm sorry, but you're trying to uphold something you know very little about.

The device is worth around $450 new when sold on a classified site (reference in link below). Let's say conservatively you sell the phone for $400 brand new, this will make it one of the cheapest new Magics available anywhere. The maximum Rogers contract termination fee is $400 on a 3 year term. (reference in 2nd link below) Now, many of us are already a few months into our contracts so it could cost even less than that.

So let's suppose all of use happen to sell our Magics at the exact same time and because of high supply and low demand, we have to sell them for $250. Even then we can terminate our contracts at least 1.5 years early. Worse case scenario you end your contract much earlier than expected, best case scenario, you end your contract and make a few dollars. Win-Win situation!!

References:

1) http://toronto.kijiji.ca/f-htc-magic-Classifieds-W0QQKeywordZhtcQ20magicQQSortZ4

2) http://www.rogers.com/cms/html/iphone_vpterms.shtml
[G1 Android Development] beav_35:
1 Are you using a Dream sold by rogers?

2 You need a kernel port. See: http://briancrook.ca/magic/

There's one for Wes Garner and Super D but none for Dwang.
[G1 Android Development] interr0bangr:
The only feedback I could give would be to have a clear starting point in the instructions for people who aren't updating "From Scratch".

Is there any guides like this anywhere that give instructions for the Magic? I've been data-less since the 24th of Jan. :(
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
k so im getting tired of the phone calls and msgs from rogers 2+ times a day

so i called in to complain and ask them to stop, they WONT BUDGE

i removed my house number from my account

i remember when i first got the phone it had 1.1 firmware. it had a feature to block calls throught contact list, i cant find that in 2.1.

anyone have ideas on how to block calls from certian contacts??

ive added rogers 1877 number to my contacts to block them from calling.

ideas?
[G1 Android Development] gmupps:
Yes, I'm on a rogers dream. I guess I'll try super D, since it's based on Dwang. Do I need to change my SPL?
[G1 Android Development] beav_35:
Thanks for the suggestion I will work on that.

The Magic update included a v6.xx radio. This is incompatible with bcrook's EBI1 port so you will have to flash CursorSense until he can make a kernel port for that radio. There is a link on that page to instructions for flashing the proper radio and SPL.
[G1 Android Development] beav_35:
Yes, flash haykuro's 2005 SPL like on the guide on the cyanogenmod wiki.

How did you get that SPL version? Do you remember what guide you followed?
[G1 Android Development] DefconZero:
So, applied the radio update, flashed the new recovery, the new CM 4.2.14, and the new kernel that was required for my dream, but I'm still stuck on the rogers logo.

What now?
[G1 Android Development] interr0bangr:
So there's no way to use CyanogenMod and a Magic with Rogers at this time? I'm OK with waiting a bit longer without data as long as I know there's a fix on the horizon...
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
i used cyanogen rom on my rogers htc dream for 4 months or so.

now running cloverdale's 2.1 rom on the phone.

i think when i rooted my phone i installed the tmobile dream image instead of the rogers one.

could be why?
[G1 Android Development] beav_35:
DefconZero, please post what you see in hboot or log on to #cyanogenmod irc channel and we can chat there if you catch me. Ill be on for the next couple hours at least.

interr0bangr, I think some people with the old radio have had luck with requesting a "network reset" from rogers but other that that, no. Keep an eye on Bcrook's port thread.

EkostonS, yes that must be why.
[G1 Android Development] swampangel:
I used ezterry's method in post #6 to go from Cyanogenmod to the Rogers update. This left me with SPL 1.33.2005, recovery-RA-dream-v1.5.2R, and radio 3.x (and got my data back).

Today I attempted to revert back to Cyanogen and EBI0 using ezterry's instructions. I did a nandroid restore, flashed signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-14721.zip, then did another nandroid restore, all without rebooting.

Now my phone is stuck on the Rogers screen and I can NOT access recovery or fastboot. Is there any way to recover from this or did I permanently brick it?
[G1 Android Development] beav_35:
If you have a 3.xx radio you need to install the kernel port from: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=592377

edit: Sorry ignore that, I missed that last part. No recovery or fastboot doesn't look good, I don't know what to say. I hope you get this sorted out.
[G1 Android Development] jackkerouac:
It's bricked.
[G1 Android Development] ezterry:
When you ran nandroid restore are you sure you used a EBI0 (not EBI1) backup?

Otherwise your are bricked like I am bricked (updated the warning to indicate another failure on that restore. Also changed the processes.. since it seems the other processes fails too much

I have a theory as to how to un-brick it.. but it will require a serial cable and for my assumption as to why the phone is bricked w/ valid radio+spl to be true. The cable ought to arrive this week.. I'll let everyone know if I manage to make my phone a phone again.. .this sony ericsson I'm temporarily using bites.

PS.. I know the process worked for me the first time.. and the second time I forgot the nandroid restore all together...
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
use the brick as a reason for rogers to send you a brand new phone

call them and tell them your phone doesnt boot up after you applied their new update rom.
[G1 Android Development] swampangel:
Yes, my only nandroid backups were from a normal EBI0 Cyanogen install (originally rooted using Haykuro's method).

I was torn between restoring my original EBI0 settings versus switching to the EBI1 version of Cyanogen. I guess I chose poorly. :( Thanks for the info about a potential fix.
[G1 Android Development] gmupps:
I can't remember exactly. I read through several of the different methods and then just sort of jumped in with both feet. I had to use my old phone for a day or two, but at the end of it i had a working phone on Cyanogen's mod. I swithced to Dwang a month or so later, after finding that cyan slows down considerably after the first few days. I used flashrec to initiate the process.
[G1 Android Development] kavel:
New update from Rogers Techsupport!!!

I just called the techsupport regarding to the stupid update. I was very honest :D and told him I am using a newer version of Android. He asked me if I have done the update blah blah.....

The point is I confirm that my version can flash the update and he said YES! because the update utility will format the phone, that means the OS I am currently using will be wiped out. I was doubt due to different radio and SPL but I gave it a try since I assumed he knows I hacked my phone. The update was done in less than 5 min and my phone is now running Rogers' rom (1.5) so I am just waiting for 3G back.

Will update when 3G is back in 24 hours.
[G1 Android Development] copolii:
I hope you realize that you won't be able to root it again unless someone comes up with a new way to root it.
[G1 Android Development] kavel:
Oh S*** i didn't know that. But hope I'll get 3G back and I'll find other ways to root
[G1 Android Development] copolii:
yup ... I'm stuck with this crap too.

The SOB Rogers tech said oh just apply the update then wait for your 3G to come back and root it again (the first moron didn't even know what rooting was and kept repeating you have to install the update to get your 3G back, literally!).
[G1 Android Development] polaroid22:
I don't have link but I saw on some posts that a "gold card" method can give you back root on your phones. see that post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=485364 and http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=595243

Good luck
[G1 Android Development] Spamwich:
Thanks bcrook and beav_35!

DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF

HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)

CPLD-4

RADIO-3.22.26.17

Flashed the new radio image extracted from the update, got my data service back a few hours later. I am in your debt!
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
you didnt have to do anything other then call for a network refresh haha

other then the harassing txts and calls u get your data and your custom rom left in tack.

i had cm 4.2.13 on my phone when i did network refresh day we lost data, havent lost it since. im on 2.1 now and goin strong

you get used to the harassing txts/calls

and the guy from the presidents office said it will stop once they have stopped scanning *which he didnt mention when that would be*
[G1 Android Development] missy_nurselove:
Continuous Voicemails/Texts

I keep on getting the calls (which I do not answer and turned into voicemail) and text msgs from Rogers that tell me to update.. I just delete all the messages altho I wish I know how to make it stop, but we might have to wait it out. For the time being, I still have my data. And I've had it back since the refresh on the night of Jan 24th.
[G1 Android Development] SilentTweak:
I did a Network Refresh the day it happened too, no loss of 3G yet. Harassment continues though. I blacklisted the 1-888 number that keeps on dialling me and texted stop to the text messages I get (but that didn't stop it at all lol). I suppose there really isn't any way to reject text messages are there? I'm on Cyan 4.2.14.1 here.

Hopefully someone finds a way to root, cause if I do get my free Magic I'll have to root that pos too.
[G1 Android Development] Unicornasaurus:
How did you blacklist the number? Is there an app for that?
[G1 Android Development] Jest311:
Following the instructions on the 6th post...

When I boot into HBOOT it keeps saying there is no image, but I did copy DREAIMG.nbh to the root of my sd. Suggestions?

I have:

DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF

HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)

CPLD-4

Radio-2.22.19.26I

Apr 20 2009,15:30:43

How did you fix it?
[G1 Android Development] DefconZero:
HBOOT says the exact same thing for me, yet I can't get past the Rogers logo. Care to explain what rom/kernel you installed after the new radio? Or what rom/kernel you have?

Thanks.

Wes