yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus One Android Development] swetland:
During audio playback (when the screen is off), the cpu wakes up about every 25ms to fill a buffer with the next 25ms of audio to play. Currently the cpu halts while idle, but cannot power collapse (completely power down) during idle while audio playback is happening because IRQs from the DSP are not working in power collapse. We're looking into this issue with Qualcomm and there's hope a future radio firmware update will fix that issue and possibly save us another 10-20mA (just a guess right now).

Currently audio playback, screen off, via headphones draws ~75-85mA which is ~16-18 hours of playback.
[Nexus One Android Development] baruchs:
Who is doing the decoding of the mp3/aac/etc. ?

This means that playing with the frequency will have no effect at all, right?

That would be great.

I get 15 hours, which is pretty close. Any addition to that would be appreciated.

Thanks!

B.
[Nexus One Android Development] swetland:
All on the CPU at the moment. Handing off decode to the DSP should help a bit, but requires quite a bit of plumbing through the audio framework to work seamlessly. The media team is working toward this sort of thing, but it's a ways out (no firm timeline).

Yup. The CPU really doesn't run much at all during music playback.

Things that would help:

- lower power CPU sleep mode between buffers (gated on DSP IRQ issue)

- handing off mp3/aac/etc decode to the DSP (gated on framework changes)

- larger (higher latency) audio buffers (can go longer between CPU coming up for air).
[Nexus One Android Development] baruchs:
This is very encouraging, at least there is some hope now :).

Thanks,

B.
[Nexus One Android Development] DebauchedSloth:
I just want to thank you for being around here. This sort of answer is not only extremely interesting, it's very useful.
[Nexus One Android Development] mhaedo:
My Nexus One appears to be stable at 1113Mhz @ 1.275v.

Disclaimer: I am well aware of any risks associated with overclocking my device, and do not recommend it to others. Please do not PM me for information about how to overclock your device. Every bit of information needed to overclock your Nexus One is in the very first post of this thread. Since there are potentially substantial risks associated with overclocking your device, I do not think it is appropriate to simplify the process until it has been proven safe.
[Nexus One Android Development] mhaedo:
Will boot and run at 1153Mhz @ 1.275v, but is not stable.
[Nexus One Android Development] rvashi:
I thought this community was about helping each other achieve better standards for and with our devices....not showing off!!

I think you should tell others how you did it so we can try it...obvoiusly if we fry our devices, its not your fault. That should be the 'disclaimer'.

But that's just my 2 cents!
[Nexus One Android Development] mhaedo:
Rvashi, I have not discovered anything new here. Every bit of information needed to overclock your Nexus one is in the very first post of this thread. Since there are potentially substantial risks associated with overclocking your device, I do not think it is appropriate to simplify the process until it has been proven safe. I've edited my post to eliminate any confusion.

If you would like to overclock your Nexus one, simply read the first page of this thread and then use Google to figure out how to do it. That's what I did.
[Nexus One Android Development] coolbho3000:
Right. Whoever releases an overclocked kernel has to at least in part deal with the consequences if it has significant negative impact on peoples' phones. You just need to know how to compile the kernel in order to run this.

mhaedo, by the way, the "autodetect" feature in SetCPU will allow you to freely move between the overclocked speeds.
[Nexus One Android Development] mhaedo:
coolbho3000, thanks, never noticed the autodetect feature. Very helpful :) Now if I could only figure out how to include all the frequencies. So far I've only been able to replace 998400 with 1113600, and my c is a bit rusty. Simply appending the values to acpu_freq_tbl[] does not work, since only 12 values show up in scaling_available_frequencies. Also, no matter what when I boot my scaling_max_freq is 998400. I'm sure I'll figure it out soon.
[Nexus One Android Development] rvashi:
Right...well, I'm outta the game in that case. I don't know how to develop an overclocked kernel! :(

I'd love to test it out though...maybe for your donators you could send out a test kernel. :)
[Nexus One Android Development] igoodbyes:
sounds promising.
[Nexus One Android Development] bmj1086:
Overclocking a 1ghz processor in a phone seems like a little bit of overkill to me. lol.
[Nexus One Android Development] mhaedo:
Attempted 1267mhz @ 1.3v. Immediate crash.

Attempted 1190mhz @ 1.3v. Extremely unstable, crashes within minutes.

Didn't bother with 1152mhz @ 1.3v. Imho even if it is stable it's not worth risking pushing the processor the extra .25v for a lousy 39mhz, since I'm running stable at 1113mhz @ 1.275v.

Took a screenshot of linpack @ 1190mhz just for ****s and giggles.
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
please share your work :)

I'd like to give it a try assuming all my responsibilities !

cheers

Red.
[Nexus One Android Development] mhaedo:
It's quite a simple process. Here's all the information you need to make it happen:

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/How_to_build_a_kernel_port
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
thank you Mhaedo... you have PM.
[Nexus One Android Development] lightforce:
damn O/C our phones to 1.1 or 1.2 would be sweet as long as its stable
[Nexus One Android Development] milton007:
THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!...totally agree..all that risk for a 10-15% risk=pointless. Get a girlfriend or clean your house. What else do you need your TELEPHONE to do for you?...buy a friggin computer. Maybe that way people with true hardware issues could be able to return their defective device if its bootloader is unlocked...as mentioned in a posting 2-3pgs back,nothing CYAN has done is PAST what is recommended for the phone and is totally safe(pending you can follow instructions..). Its ignorant ppl that fry their device trying to push a PHONE to do a computers job--and try to doop HTC or whatever manufacturer built the device by covering over there own STUPIDITY to gain milliseconds in cpu response...REALLY!??? Use that intelligence and put it towards fixing other bugs...not creating a "Nexus ONE*" (asterisk=steroids!lol) that kills the battery in 30 mins...oh wait,these people probably rarely leave the house so its safe to assume they are always near a charger!
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
wow Milton007!! we was really missing your 400 words message in this forum. it seems you spend a lot of time in your house on your desktop...

relax.
[Nexus One Android Development] andjohn:
So, something like 780MHz on the G1 with only 5 or so degrees of more heat isn't worthwhile??? Sounds like someone doesn't understand the 'plod of progress'. Dude, someone fries their phone because of overclocking it's gonna be detected by HTC much like Intel doesn't warrentee overclocked procs. If they can get 26.7% of an overclock safely *EVENTUALLY* that sounds like epicness to me. So SHUTUP unless you have some help. Idiots flashing their devices isn't our concern. Furthering the development of the N1 is.
[Nexus One Android Development] Router:
being rather lame I asked my friend to try 1152 @ 1300 on my N1. its unstable - crashed twice, so i got scared and reflashed back to modaco 1.5. Frankly, I would have reflashed it even if it were stable...

Not that I worry too much about the device, I like experiments, but in my previous life I bricked an iPhone and trust me - its bitter-bitter when you get a brick out of smth that worked ok only 15 minutes ago:-)

Question - how come Droid made 32.222 mflops?? (see linpack top 10) its 600 ARM A8 Cortex even o/ced to 1100 can hardly beat MHaedo's @ 1190 (20.428 mflops). is it fake or real?

I EXPLICITLY STATE THAT I ADMIRE YOUR WORK, please carry on!
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
;);););););)

he's problably tryin' answering us, but his Commodore Vic20 doesn't connect to the web...
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
Router.. so it seems you've got this boot.img...

would you please send it to me so I can give it a try?

need to cooke my eggs tonight and would like to do it with my N1.. and burn my house.. and get it to explode.... this is MY lovely N1 ;)

thanks.

Red.
[Nexus One Android Development] persiansown:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5626156

I released a kernel at 1113mhz and 1.275v (stock)
[Nexus One Android Development] rheza02:
why not 1.267GHz ?
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
that's very good news.

thank you persiansown. I'll try and report.

Red.
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
@Router:

don't worry about it Router; Persiansown posted the 1113MHz one (see above); it would be good to test the higher freq.

@Persiansown: your kernel works with no issues. very good release! many thanks.

would you post the higher freq too, for testing purpose?

Red.
[Nexus One Android Development] coolbho3000:
Qualcomm's code now says 1v (rather than 1.05v, as is now in AOSP) is safe at 245MHz on the 8x50. This should save quite a bit of power used by the CPU while idle, and according to Qualcomm at least, should be perfectly safe. They are also, however, running 998MHz @ 1.3v. Bad news for Liquid users; the voltages used for your chip in this code shows that your chips are probably binned much lower than "normal" 8x50s.

https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...dac8c73ab58222e2b0446d;hb=android-msm-2.6.29b

They also posted the QSD8x50a code. It's running at 998MHz @ 1.275v, the same frequency that Google is running the regular 8x50 at, but not 1.267MHz (yet?). Seems like the only difference (in the tables) between this and the 8x50 is the voltages.

https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...25c87fb11d328baf8ed1d9;hb=android-msm-2.6.29b

I now wonder why Google wanted to use 1.3v on ship, and seemingly reluctantly changed it back to 1.275v because Qualcomm could not certify 1.3v yet. 1.275v seems perfectly stable at 998MHz.
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
hey coolbho.. you didn't note my 'hundreds thanks' in the other thread, didn't you?:)
[Nexus One Android Development] swetland:
We were investigating a (rare) case of L2 cache errors, which can happen if there is insufficient (or too much!) power to the cpu. Moving from 1.275 to 1.3 did not result in any observed changes (good or bad) across a wide range of test devices.
[Nexus One Android Development] persiansown:
Nice, 1.0v should drop power consumption when the screen is off even more. Swetland, have you guys tried 1.250v at 998?
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
I can confirm the overheating during phone charging @ 1113Hz stock voltage.

Red.
[Nexus One Android Development] redeyes717:
mhaedo,

the linpack score you obtained is OC + JIT?
[Nexus One Android Development] kamikazimonky:
yea i heard sumone getting 17.5 mflop\s on the linpack score with jit. how do you enable jit and is it faster or better?
[Nexus One Android Development] pzumk:
There's no need to enable since it's not stable.

It's just faster, not better
[Nexus One Android Development] Tom Servo:
I've exchanged a few words about this with a coworker of yours. He says that using the DSP would make things a little unsmooth because usage of the DSP would break software mixing. This strikes me as odd, since when listening to music, it fades out, the ringtone fades in, when the call is over, the music fades in again. I've yet to see any sign of actual use of software mixing, since the system always interrupts any audio activity when a call or notification comes in.

I hope there's use to be made of the DSP, because that'd be wasted potential.
[Nexus One Android Development] dogiedogie:
Now our developers are a lot more versed in the ways of the N1, does this still seem like a viable project?
[Nexus One Android Development] jlevy73:
Yes 1.267ghz can be done. However, you will probably never see a developer post or share that information on XDA. The reason is because to achieve this frequency you need to increase voltage past what is recommended or safe. And hence, run the risk of frying the CPU.

Furthermore, even if you had a kernel that OC to 1.267ghz, you need to have one of the "chosen" phones to even get it to boot. In the Linpack app you can see scores by devices. If you look at the N1 you will see a score of 33 (or something like that) by XDA guru The Dudes Android. His phone was dubbed the "Jesus phone" because he was able to get his phone to boot at that clock speed (with Jit).

I have experimented with mine with the help of some people much smarter than me and was able to boot at 1.22ghz (and it was super unstable). At 1.267ghz my phone would go into an endless boot loop.
[Nexus One Android Development] dogiedogie:
I thought as much, cheers :)

Wonder what those 45nm badboys are able to do on 45nm if they're stocked @ 1.267.
[Nexus One Android Development] Flippy125:
Hmmmmm.... I've had my Nexus OC'ed to 1.3Ghz for the past month, STABLE (maybe more...) this isn't new, ralle.gade made a post about it a while ago and he just got flamed for not releasing source
[Nexus One Android Development] jlevy73:
I see you got a Pi score of 790, pretty impressive. What was your Linpack score?
[Nexus One Android Development] charnsingh_online:
u could be receiving L2 cache errors which are not good for any CPU. Even if it is stable ur CPU is going to die sooner.
[Nexus One Android Development] coolbho3000:
*looks at date of topic post*

Hmmmmmm....
[Nexus One Android Development] Gr8gorilla:
seeing as how the code doesn't allow the phone to clock over 1.267 I would bet that your phone is running at most at 1.267. If you read the first page, you will see the code that limits it not including the other limiting factors that have been mentioned before.

I know it says 1.3ghz but I can make my phone say 9000ghz if I want to, it has been shown before................
[HD2 General] necotas:
hello all

can someone help me please.

I also did light LED for the mail does not work for me.

I have adapted to register but no.

sms etc. work fine except email.

one solution?

Thanks.
[HD2 General] UncleBeer:
Yep; from reading this and various other forums, it seems this doesn't work on ANYONE'S HD2. HTC Support claims it works just fine for them though, and that they've had no complaints (except mine). Obviously this is a software issue, since the LED fires for other notifications, so it'd be an easy software fix.

Suggestion: drop an email to HTC describing this (and other) problem. http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx
[HD2 General] necotas:
I have almost all the software from xda tried.

Resultaad same ..:mad:

Could the problem lie with the Radio Rom? !

Someone experience??
[HD2 General] alkorsi:
...and mine too ;-)
[HD2 General] UncleBeer:
Brief mini-rant (and sneaky opportunity to bump this up):

I'm as pissed as anyone about the SMS problem; it's a basic function of a phone that oughta work out of the box as expected even on the cheapest phone available. That it doesn't work on this pricey gizmo, and HTC have yet to fix it is shocking.

From reading these threads though, I see that folks have thousands of SMS's on their phones. Wow. On most plans, SMS's cost money to send. Why would anyone choose an SMS when an email would serve the same purpose? I read somewhere on the net that per byte it's cheaper to send / receive data from the Hubble telescope than to send an SMS.

My point: I'm surprised there's not more outrage about the non-working 'new email' notification LED.
[HD2 General] Wooley:
response from HTC re LED Notification not working

I dropped an email to HTC describing the Email LED problem and their initial response was, have i ticked the box in settings :mad:.

Then they said

i gave them my details and their response was :-

Not holding my breath
[HD2 General] necotas:
Can you let us know if they come with a solution ..??:confused:
[HD2 General] UncleBeer:
I've been swapping emails with the developer of PhoneAlarm; he's sent me a beta version that actually makes the email LED work! He says the beta should be up on his site in the next day or so. YAAAAAAY!

http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html Since this guy's the only person who's taken the trouble to look into this, I strongly encourage all to *purchase* this nice piece of software. :)
[HD2 General] Wooley:
Will do, hopefully they dont take to long to work it out.
[HD2 General] necotas:
Have more people with this problem or are we alone??
[HD2 General] UncleBeer:
Nope; this is faulty on ALL HD2s as far as I know, and also not fixed on the latest ROM 1.66.

But, the latest version of PhoneAlarm fixes this problem! I strongly encourage folks to try / purchase this great piece of software! http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html
[HD2 General] necotas:
That means HTC sense to disable switching and Phone Alarm?
[HD2 General] Jais:
I am having same problem and headache to think how is the solution. Then i eat panadol.:confused:
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
I just fired off an email to HTC about this. It's a bit frustrating that there is an option for it but it doesn't work. How embarrassing for them to have such a blatant bug. It can't hurt to let them know that lots of folks are suffering from this. :eek:
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
Here is the response I got from HTC today

I can't believe they are just being so blind about this problem. It is on every handset. Why don't they just test it on their own?

Hardware fault. WTF? :eek:
[HD2 General] UncleBeer:
Yep: the HTC guy I swapped emails with swore up & down that his email LED worked just fine. :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] necotas:
finally

People good news, Uncle Bear is right.

Thanks to him I now also working led to mail, I could not believe my eyes when I saw a green light.:eek:

So phone alarm beta version is a nice solution.

Least until HTC comes with a solution. (As can be seen a long time)
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
After the last email they sent me I sent them this back

Then they responded with their generic response AGAIN! :eek: How frustrating :mad:

I can only assume they meant to say "isn't fixing" and not "is fixing". Not only are they fobbing me off, they can't even be arsed to type (or copy and paste) an email correctly. :eek: :mad:
[HD2 General] Wooley:
I just got pretty much the same response from Joe UK Tech support. He said a Hard reset would fix it but if it doesnt he will make sure that any info he gets from the R&D department, he will get back to my straight away. (Not going to hold my breath)

In the meantime, i have started using PhoneAlarm and now the LED does flash for new emails but there are so many notification setting/changes needed within PhoneAlarm its a hassle.
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
Another response from HTC

I sent them

They replied with

So I replied with

Why won't they just give a straight answer and accept there is a problem at least. What the hell would they do with it if I sent it in anyways? :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
They replied

I don't think we're getting anywhere fast here. Looks like they'd just re-flash a stock ROM on it if I sent it back. Whoopee! Like I've not done that a million times.

Also, does anyone else get the impression that they're not actually english speakers considering they're supposed to be from the Irish support centre?
[HD2 General] Go Swalle:
maybe try to upgrade the version of the app, or redownload again.
[General Questions and Answers] radziop:
Hi,

I'm using g-profile ( ageye.de/index.php?s=gprofile/about ) and I want to download new emails automatically by execute one of the system processes/programs or something. I've found that tmail.exe is for emails/sms etc... (wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=LinksAndParameters) but I wasn't able to force it to download new emails.

Have you got any ideas how force tmail.exe (or other process/service) to download new emails?

Cheers

Radek
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] brujeria_diosa:
after trying to get a new Droid phone (verizon) and being too much a broke **** to qualify for ANY new phone, I decided to enable the data option on my pay as you go phone with at&t.

How the f do I enable the data? How do I connect? Through GPRS? I called at&t & got Sanjay from India who claimed his name was "Steve". Yes, he was no help at all.:eek:

Anyone do this already or have any ideas?

ty,

chela
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] inkredi:
is there any app to control startup apps on Eclair ROM ??

"autostarts" & "Startup Auditor" dont work
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] rustyman14:
Does anyone have the Sprint Visual Voicemail app??

I need it..
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] thedudejdog:
this guy may have a spare copy as he just deleted his ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609588
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] rustyman14:
haha ill ask..
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] thedudejdog:
i mean at least he would know where to get it, i just flashed the RUU so i would be more than willing to pull it for you if you find the filepath
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] rustyman14:
Ok ill see if i can find out where it is.. I Pm'ed some of the developers and asked if they new where it was or if they could send it to me but i havent gotten back to me yet..
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] dametzg:
Did you accidentally remove the .apk from the phone, or did it just uninstall itself? When I first rooted my phone, my visual voicemail disappeared after flashing a new rom, but the .apk file was still on my phone. All I did was reinstall it with the .apk and it came right back. The file is Sprint_Core.apk located in the system/app folder.
[HTC Monet] cardax:
Htc Lobster has a reciver dab

Dab reciver will be working with dab-h broadcasting ? or it is incompatybile?

Many Thanks for answer
[HTC Monet] Win_XP:
I think it cannot run it :)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic ROM Development] su8044:
New Questions here, old one at the bottom.

hi and thanks to everyone for your answers... you helped me a lot.

but:

I tried various 6.5 and 6.5.3 roms and found a lot of bugs in all of them... and that's not really my style. I want to go back to stock firmware 6.1 and there are not many options (or maybe i wasn't able to find them). Where can i find the Stock Firmware section or something like that, if they are unbranded even better, and if you can direct me to the latest one even better... i have installed the one from Orange in spanish meanwhile, i think it's Ver 1.57.75.3 found here. xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=566929 but if there are better unbranded ones i'll be very happy to install them... (how about this one: xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=521354).

Thanks a lot again in advance...

old Question:

Hi, i bought yesterday my new Opal and i have no idea how to update the rom to windows 6.5... I´m a bit of a perfectionist so i wanna get things right from the beginning, and i used to mod motorola phones so i understand some of the technical stuff, but htc is completely new to me.

So far, this is what i have understood:

to update:

1.- install hard_spl

2.- install custom ruu

3.- install new rom.

But i have a lot of questions on what is each one of those things and the advantages they give.

What does Hard_SPL do?

What is the Custom RUU for? (what is the RUU?)

What is the most stable and least customized rom with winmo 6.5? which rom is the most used by this forum?

What is titanium?

and last: how is the Opal unlocked? (if posible)

Mi goal is to update to winmo 6.5 but keep my phone looking as stock as possible and as stable as possible...

all the help i can get will be very appreciated...