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[Nexus One General] uansari1:
It's on the first page in the Development subforum bro..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=617077
[Nexus One General] fykick:
Not to be a bother, but I have a few questions maybe a few of you could explain. But before I do I should prob say a few things about my general phone usage.

For the most part I use my phone for mostly texting. The reason I upgraded to a Nexus was to have a full touchscreen phone with a processor fast enough to keep up with touchscreen texting on the Android OS. Before this I owned a Mytouch which I then took back, and used 150 of the money to buy a g1 simply for the physical keyboard. I tried every rom mostly, and for some reason some even seemed faster on the g1 than the mytouch. The one I ended up sticking with was the MLIGN 32B. It worked without any problems and was pretty snappy. And from my understanding 32B relied more on A2SD due to less internal memory. On both roms 32A and 32B I never experienced much of a speed difference, and using my process manager, both roms seemed to contain the same amount of remaining memory after install. In the whole time I only really downloaded two apps, Root explorer and Task Panel.

Now on to the real question, about the memory on the Nexus. At first I flashed the Madaco rom on the phone with a a formatted swap-128mb/ext-1024 mb on a 4gb class 6 card, and installed only Task panel. My memory is at around 120 at the time after killing all apps. **Also not sure if I remember correctly but my memory is around 120 or 130 even with the factory rom, but that is based on memory and may not be correct.** Anyways...I reformated the card, swap-512/ext-1024, on the same 4gb card, and installed only task panel. After killing all apps, my phone still remains at 120 memory. So I switched cards to an plain jane formatted 16gb class 2, and things seem to run faster if not the same as the 4gb class 6.

Two or three questions result from this, as I understand the purpose A2SD and formatted memory cards are to extend the original memory of the phone and help performance a bit?

Yet unless task panel doesn't read all the extra partitions and gives false memory readings, I have yet to see a benefit to forrmatting an sd card, or using A2SD?

And I guess the final question is, what is the purpose of relying on artificial memory expansion, when we are striving for phones with more internal memory at the same time. After all that's why I upgraded to the Nexus, so I'd have to rely less on outside sources to make my phone's performance better. To me, I'd rather be able to rely on a rom that streamlines the space needed to allow the extra memory to go towards performance. Though I also don't download or install a lot of apps, keep that in mind. Nor am I trying to criticize any progress already made, just trying to understand it all.

So sorry if I sound completely off, or ignorant in my post, but I'm just trying to get more informed. So I will accept all forms of informative posts, flaming or not. Thanks.
[Nexus One General] hondamx525:
RAM- amount of memory to run applications.

ROM- memory to store files.

Task manager is measuring your RAM, which A2SD has nothing to do with.
[Nexus One General] simms22:
its not really needed but if you like lots off apps and big 3d games then it is. ive been with my nexus one for a week and a half, and am down to 82mb in internal phone storage. ive got a bunch of big 3d games that take up a lot of room. but for the everyday user, theres plenty of internal memory. almost 120mb more than the g1(74mb), about a total of 190mb. hope that helps.
[Nexus One General] fykick:
Okay, thanks, for the most part those two simple answers clarify things. I guess I was under the impression that out of the 3 partitions (swap/ext/fat32) that the phone used one of them for a virtual memory, the way windows uses hard drive space for virtual memory if your ram usage is getting close to overflowing. Am I correct in assuming such, or does the phone in fact not use any of the partitions in this way?

Though if it does, which partition is used as virtual memory per say? Or are there not any add ons out for the nexus yet that incorporate such?
[Nexus One General] JanetPanic:
It would be more accurate to say a2sd is necessary for (far) fewer people.

The swap partition in a conventional Linux system would be used as virtual memory. The stock ROM for the N1 is not configured to take advantage of swap however. It is possible that cyanogen or another ROM cook will enable it but, like a2sd, it is not as necessary as it was with the G1.
[Nexus One General] Ace42:
I think apps2sd isnt needed apps are usually smaller than 4MB plus will you actually use all those apps?

I have like 20apps atm and use like 10 of them.Others were good at the time i installed but are boring now.Im waiting for gameboid and the other apps to be in the market.Does anyone see raging thunder in market?
[Nexus One General] kolobok01:
We need A2SD. I have done some research and there will be a plenty of 3D games witch will need plenty of storage some of them mite need 100+mb. So you do need A2SD and it will be nice to see what Google will com up with. Can't wait to see it.
[Nexus One General] simms22:
lol, raging thunder is sweet on the n1. so is armageddon squadron, armored strike, call of duty, rs09 real soccer, sky force, speed forge 3d, toonwars, wave blazer, homerun battle 3d.... while most apps are under 4mb, some are 8, 10+. they add up. on top of games, i also have many other apps that i find useful. not all at once, but at times. why not have apps2sd as an option? i have 76 total apps and games right now, im down to 80mb. id like to download more apps in future. my g1 has 220 apps installed with 180mb left.
[Nexus One General] BrooklynAvi:
I've been saying this in many of the discussions on a2sd for the N1. There are those who feel that it is not needed on the N1. However, there is less space on the N1 (appalling for 2010 and such a sweet device) than on the myTouch and we all had it on the myTouch. Given that there is less than 200MB of storage available for apps on the N1, unless we use a2sd we are doomed to using a small number of apps each being small in size. While I dislike just about everything about the iPhone, the one thing it has is the ability to install 100MB+ apps. While a2sd will allow this, these types of apps will not be created until there is official support for more storage, whether it's built-in or an a2sd implemented by Google (supposedly in the works but that basically means nothing until it's here).
[Nexus One General] flarbear:
Until the storage limits for downloaded apps is greatly relaxed (i.e. by apps2sd) we won't see as many really nice looking media rich apps as the iPhone and iPod Touch have. Most of the apps are multi-megabyte on that platform because there is no disincentive to including lots of media and taking up space like there is on non-rooted Android phones.

You can look at the current apps on the Android Market and come to the conclusion that apps2sd isn't a pressing need, but you'd be missing the bigger picture of all the apps that aren't there because nobody wants to download many multi-megabyte apps until we have essentially unlimited storage...
[Nexus One General] shilirong:
Agreed , totally agree. hope Google can implement the offical a2sd soon, can not wait for that.
[Nexus One General] simms22:
absolutely agree. at the rate im going, im going to be out of internal storage memory by the end of this month. and by the way, i have both your apps on my g1 and cachemate on my nexus. both are extremely useful apps!
[Nexus One General] BrooklynAvi:
Awesome. Since I haven't done a2sd on my N1 yet, I've once again realized the pressing need for my CacheMate. I don't know what non-root users do with all that junk on their devices (wish I would make it for non-root users). I really hope that I either don't need my app anymore or that it only has to be run once a month. This storage limitation is a joke. The first time I ran CacheMate on my N1 it cleared almost 50MB! That's 1/4 of the available space. I'd dump Android this phone if it wasn't rooted and I had to manually clear cache all day (I had CacheMate way before it came out :D).
[Nexus One General] dnanj:
People can argue all night long as to whether or not app2sd is needed on the nexus one, but all I can say is that I love having it on mine. For one thing, I don't have to constantly check how much free space I have left on my phone nor do I have to regularly and manually clear my cache.

I know one guy on here who just got it setup on his n1 last night.

Before apps2sd, one of his apps kept crashing, after getting it setup on his nexus, he was very pleased.
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
*** NOTICE ***

Intension is now OpenEclair!

OpenEclair is a community ROM with contributions from numerous developers.
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[G1 Android Development] NICEGYPT:
thanks .... and i will root now :) and see what is going on
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
Not bad like the rom :) can't wait till it gets developed even further and becomes more faster.

Ps: Everyone reading this i recommend this rom if you want eclair :D

ps2: this semms to be the only eclair rom that will run on my phone XD
[G1 Android Development] gitanojr:
there u go...

http://www.4shared.com/file/199789880/dffe05e8/Intension-Beta2.html
[G1 Android Development] gitanojr:
suggetion...

U should add something like, "I'm. Not responsible if u brick ur phone, do this at your own risk and please make a back up first" with big red letters...

Will try now ;)
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
U need to add wipe delvik-cache as well you left that part out lol

ps: also you should create a changelog
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
First release, so theres no such thing as a changelog yet.

Dalvik-cache is stored on the /data partition, which is wiped when you do "Wipe data/factory reset."
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
not if you have moved delvik-cache to sd XD

and sry i thought it was 2nd release because of the beta2 i thought he must have had a beta1 somewhere
[G1 Android Development] amlwaycooljr:
Nice to see a new developer around here, I may eventually get into the ROM making business myself now that I'll have a spare phone. I'll be glad to try out this ROM in a few, I'll let you know what I think of it then.

P.S. How hard is to to bake a ROM anyway? I'm just curious ..
[G1 Android Development] gitanojr:
running now!!

Seems ok,

But its missing the apps running, when I go to "applications/manage applications" I can only see the ones I just downloaded from the market, also on the market I don't see a paid app called "my backup pro"

On terminal emulator the "free" command cannot be found...

On internal mem only had 62mb before installing any app...

Good work so far no fc....
[G1 Android Development] blueheeler:
Try searching for "MyBackup Pro".
[G1 Android Development] gitanojr:
Well i did and it just give me the regular one, the pro version its an app that i purchase and every time i install a dif rom, on the market/my downloads its always there, mmm weird....
[G1 Android Development] Deejaydark:
???????

So I'm guessing with my spl & radio i cant download this?
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
You can have any SPL for magics but you have right SPL so yes you can use it.
[G1 Android Development] ldf913:
uhh

I realize u don't hav a change log because it is ur first rom... but what iis in ur first rom? what are the apps included? What other enhancement do u have in ur eclair rom?.. n is it posible to have wysie's phone/contact in ur next rom..
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
All of the enhancements are listed in the OP, just some kernel tweaks and compcache basically. At the moment, I have no plans on adding any apps to the ROM other than the stock android & google apps. I want to keep this ROM as smooth and clean as possible.
[G1 Android Development] Deejaydark:
waiting patiently....

Sooooo... hows the speed and response? Any lagging..force close? Oh and one big thing... is youtube working? Eugenes and manups youtube on there eclair builds look crappy and not clear at all.. I'm talking about regular not hd.
[G1 Android Development] wschom:
Nice work. Everything seemed to work good for with one exception. I also was unable to see some paid apps.
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
Youtube will not work, there are no HW accel drivers, this has been said many times. But the OTA for eclair has started.
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
What he said.

Working on a fix for paid apps in the market not working.
[G1 Android Development] djluis48:
Explain yourself better...cant understand a single thing :S
[G1 Android Development] aaraya1516:
Great Rom

So far this is a great ROM. Keep up the good work.

The only question I have is why so many applications auto-start. I always go in an kill them with adv. task killer, but after awhile they come back.
[G1 Android Development] juangil:
deleted... wrong thread
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
Actually, he is right. I did forget, because I'm human. I'm sorry guys, it happens. I was hoping to have a fix out this AM but it seems to be more involved than I thought, probably some changes behind the scenes in 2.1. I'll be able to look at it after work.

And yes, I do all of this without asking for a dime. Feeling generous? Don't donate to me, send some money to Doctors Without Borders. They will put your money to good use, helping those who need your donations more than I do.

Again, thank you for all of those that have been supportive.
[G1 Android Development] cagaagac:
Once again a very nice ROM-release! :cool:

I noticed I had to start third-party applications twice or more before they were working as expected (actually they didn't work at all, when started for the first time).

I wiped dalvik-cache and data/factory default before I was going to flash this ROM (v1.1). As I came from beta5 I left the ext-partition as it was.
[G1 Android Development] Eclipse9069:
I'm wondering the same thing as well...

But this is the best 2.1 ROM I have used, great job !
[G1 Android Development] epeets:
This is the 1st eclair rom I've used for more than a few days. Great work! You probably don't need live wallpapers on here though cause it just slows the phone down and BT doesn't seem to be functioning correctly. I can pair but no music through my headphones.
[G1 Android Development] nduanetesh:
I've noticed this problem with other roms as well, when I wiped everything but ext. Each app requires being started twice (the first time you try to fire them up after the upgrade), but after that everything is fine and they work as normal. Not sure what's up with that, but it's not specific to this rom.

Believe it or not, I did an in-place upgrade (no wipe) from Beta 5 to 1.1 and everything is working great (other than known issues, of course)! I honestly didn't expect it to work, but it did!

Great work on the ROM. I poked around a bit with beta 3 and it's been my daily rom since beta 4. Keep up the good work!
[G1 Android Development] nyctrini3:
whats the differnce between this and manup's v1.5?????????
[G1 Android Development] wschom:
Flashed this ROM and it works very smoothly. This has been the first 2.1 ROM that I have used that is this smooth. The only issue I have is the lack of Root access. I can wait for that though.
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
Preliminary review install from fresh wipe. Seems faster. Voice keyboard seems better. could be just me but both seem crisper and more responsive. Suggestions on voice keyboard are nice. and acknowledges "period", "comma" etc now. live wallpaper works. the real live wall paper. Nexus 1 lockscreen. Yay! screens don't timeout on you anymore. Yay! still missing car home. Don't have to mention its missing super user but honestly you don't really miss it. rom is plenty fast without swapping and clocking. I can live without cache abilities and Titanium backup for now. New contacts list is a win.

Stability review to follow.
[G1 Android Development] G Zero:
Aye wuzzup breds.

A few things. Nexus 1 voice keyboard, you speak into it it types what you said. 5 homescreens vs 3. Intension is at least twice as fast as manup. Can't get manup to show you widgets in less than 3 seconds. Loads faster, boots faster, shuts down faster. Swiping screens on manup is very choppy, tons smoother on Intension. Same for the app tray. Not to mention the actual live wallpapers, and the working ones are actually fast.

To be clear though, neither of these roms are actually 2.1 (Flan). They're both eclair with flan parts, but have to identify themselves as Flan for certain apps to work. Flans UI is much different than eclair, all screen swipes wobble into place and stretch when you pull them beyond their border. The app tray is also pushbutton only, it won't let you pull it up. No one has a true flanbased rom at this time to my knowledge (except the hero 2.1 roms), but Intension is by far the closest imo.
[G1 Android Development] nyctrini3:
@ GZERO

Aye wuzzup breds?

just cool bretheren!thanks for the info i got da voicekeyboard apk installed on manup1.5 with eclair ram hack but i like the five home screens thats cool i love hero but im currently using king's expresso but i cant get picture messages which is a bummer as i travel alot and my daughter is always snding me pix so ui switched to manup(thats my back up) but ill try this rom

peace! thanx again
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
Actually 2.1 is Eclair, Google has stated that the next named release of Android will be "FroYo", Flan was just a rumored name. 2.1 is a minor release over 2.0.

The reason you are not seeing some of the stuff you see on the Nexus One is due to hardware. If you are not building for a device that supports all of the cool 3D stuff, you will get regular 2D versions.

This ROM is actually 2.1 now. As of Intension-v1.0 it is compiled from the android open source repositories, which were updated a few days ago with 2.1 code. If there are apps out there that take advantage of new API methods in 2.1, they will work, granted they are not taking advantage of some of the 3D stuff we can't do due to the current driver limitations.
[G1 Android Development] nk02:
adb remount
adb shell chmod 04755 /system/bin/su

and now superuser.apk (root app) works in my magic..

edit: for magic, we need to push /system/lib/hw/sensors.sapphire.so and /system/usr/keychars/sapphire-keypad.kcm.bin from other sapphire rom
[G1 Android Development] NViouz:
Hm, for some reason, my voice keyboard doesn't work.

I have no real use for this since i prefer typing, but thought i'd mention it.

When i click the button to enable it in messaging, it says "Couldn't Connect" with a caution triangle.

Any ideas?

Loving this ROM the more i use it :D
[G1 Android Development] maxon25:
hi, This rom runs very well but 2 problems i found are when coming out of camera app or youtube the screen don't rotate back, stays in landscape. Youtube did'nt run right with and without HQ. Other then that top rom!!!
[G1 Android Development] sfcdale:
root now works in my g1 :D
[G1 Android Development] jig_alo1:
Does anyone know why no picture shows in video
[G1 Android Development] borjus86:
at me the 3g connection don't working..at you?
[G1 Android Development] dragon546:
No hardware acceleration drivers yet and with a 10MB ram hack will be pretty difficult run 3d graphics.
[G1 Android Development] beyounn:
Can I try this on ADP2

Can I try this on ADP2?
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
Thanks nk02, didnt realize it was as easy as a permissions thing.

Also had the sensors library in the wrong dir (oops), should have a new build out soon.
[G1 Android Development] wschom:
The su mod worked but I still have no G sensor working.
[G1 Android Development] zemigl:
Thank you for this great rom, working very well and with a dictionary working in my language ;)

A question to everybody is the location by gsm working on your phones ? cause not working in mine.

Thanks
[G1 Android Development] wschom:
Mine does not work either. I imagine this will be fixed in the next release.
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
how bad is it to name it UPGRADE.ZIP instead of UPDATE.ZIP and install that way?? I dunno why i didi that i couldnt figure out why it wouldnt find an UPDATE image, so I went to the CHOOSE UPDATE option and installed it thataway

EDIT: ehh it worked fine, installed fine!! But this ROM is laggy for me, i dunno ehy, i've got more free RAM in this ROM than any other ROM ive flashed (55mb free) and its choppy, hmmm im gonna play around with it to see
[G1 Android Development] pychobj2001:
WOOT WOOT

I love this rom, but it's a tiny bit laggy, but to be expected this early on...back to my other stable rom for now...but love the progress of all these 2.1 roms which launcher2.apk could be used in these and which live wallpaper devs would scale the wallpapers for the g1 resolutions...(digital rain guy!) oh yeah, to whoever wants to know...the live wallpapers on the market work good on this rom...now we just need them to be tweaked by their devs for other devices other then the nexus...i love the mod community...we r so lucky to get all these awesome roms...thanx devs! all of u! AOSP ppl! XDA Members..well some of u..some of u need to use the search more often...again, luv this rom! can't wait for speed speed speed increases and crazy cool kernel mods and even new kernels and yada yada i'll stop now...
[G1 Android Development] dragon546:
OK feedback for you Chris

Still pretty fast rom had FC on live Wallpaper (expected I guess). Youtube not working for me maybe because clip was HQ and hung orientation had to reboot. Not tried making a call yet. Voice Input a lot better and much more accurate. Other than that it's been great.
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
Root fix is up as well as a fix for FC's on SetupWizard.

Looking into the cell location issue.

FC's are expected on the live wallpapers, and they don't perform very well at all (10MB RAM hack + lack of hardware acceleration).
[G1 Android Development] jmhecker:
I have tried each and every Eclair rom that has come out here on XDA, and this is the FIRST one that will load on my rooted G1. I have Haykuro's SPL, ra recovery, etc...this one works, and it works well at that. Thank you. No more damned Cupcake/Donut based Hero roms or the like.
[G1 Android Development] fiktion:
Just flashed 1.2, did a full wipe before installation from 1.1, and I cannot get it to sign me into the Google servers to setup my phone. I tried the initial setup, market setup, tried 3G, only from 2G networks, and from WiFi. Nothing.
[G1 Android Development] ctso:
Jumped the gun on the release, about to upload 1.3 which will go back to the somewhat broken SetupWizard until I can get it working 100%.
[G1 Android Development] fiktion:
Alright. Thanks. I did like 2 wipes, and tried it again and again, but now I'll wait for the upload.
[G1 Android Development] 7895123:
I cant Login Google account : no network connect ! ==> connect by 3G and wifi, web browse working... cant login.

I cant open camera, force close .... all other Rom ver 2.1 here I had same prob too

Else : fast boot, fast runing, all thing look well, same as Dwang, better than Cyanogen 13
[G1 Android Development] fiktion:
Read up a couple posts... Sheesh. Download 1.2.1
[G1 Android Development] nduanetesh:
Blue LED = Nice touch.

Thanks again for the great work. If you get the cell location issue figured out, that would be awesome.
[G1 Android Development] xneolithicspx:
the download link doesnt seem to be working... :/

Edit: nvm it works now :) trying it after it downloads
[G1 Android Development] nicknowsky:
cooL, I was just about to flash to something else, there was just something not right about v1.1 on my MYT3G i was a bit choppy, i did like the amount of RAM that i had with this!