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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
I used method 1, it's actually very, very easy!!!!!:

after downloading the adroidinstall(http://www.mediafire.com/?zldjhfnkzk2) wich contains a lot of files (ROMUpdateUtility.exe,etc and androidinstaller) you'll make a folder with all files and you add the androidinstall off your choice to your root of SD card(overwrite the old version).And open RomUpdateUtility in windows).

After flashing the installer launches (you don't have to do anything) and you can simply install like using haret(but select nand) and wait(you'll see lot's of errors).

Please add to starters-post.

Use the NBH http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=663125 (03-05-2010) or newer ! But you'll need h3dw set to 1 (don't use DZO for ).

I used eclair build from incubus RLS 5.

To reflash back to windows mobile, reboot and press camera button first and then toghether power button and reset button, you'll get into hardspl menu.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
The reason why option 4 does not appear to make sense is that it is actually a very old and outdated install method, it has not been used since the nomorootfs method became more common, which evolved into the present nbh+tar method used now.

For a Kais130 normal screen resolution is 240x320, therefore any nbh with 320 in the filename should be good, also the normal method is now to use SD for flashing the NBH and installing the build, USB flashing is now only a last resort method when using SD card fails to flash.

The only files needed for most builds is the KAISimg.nbh, and the androidinstaller.tar (or .tgz) file.

(please note that the OP has not been updated since February 4th).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deezee_uk:
I've just tried this and its gone very wrong :-( It flashes the nbh ok. But thats it. No android install? Comes up with

init: Unable to open persistent property directory /data/property errno: 2

I'm guessing I've missed a step here?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
The vital step: remember to press and hold dpad centre button when asked, this starts the installer menu :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deezee_uk:
Feel like a bit of an idiot! Pressed d-pad. Installed OK. Thanks

Just need to sort out the data connection. Won't save apn settings!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mr521427:
How to Find panel type etc ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] patrickhpr:
hELLO

I have question.

1. Do you saw any touturial to return from android to windows mobile ?

(standard method like ROM changing ?)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
this has been answered dozens of times...I suggest you use the search...

this also has been answered in many threads...

I would suggest knowing how to flash back to winmo BEFORE

flashing a winmo phone to android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jayeverette:
My tilt has been collecting dust for too long. hopefully i'm not too much of a noob to figure it out...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giveen:
I'm doing this as well, but its not installing.

Is there a specific timing when you are suppose to do this?

I see something asking me to press it, mid way through the boot up but it flashes by so fast.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Thats when to press it, it should pause a little at that point, however if you rush and press the wrong key, or do not hold the key it will not start the installer, another option is to press and hold the centre of the screen, ( I can confirm this works ), remember not to press too hard ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fiddelm3742:
I'm having a similar issue was well. I've installed numerous versions of Adroid (starting w/ polymods a while back) I haven't used my Kaiser in a while but will be going back to it again shortly (anyone wanna buy an unlocked iPhone? :) )

Anyway, I've been flashing the New NBH for the kaiser (that supposed leaves more memory) It flashes fine, however i can't get the install to come up. It flashes to the Tux screen (black baground white letters etc.) and then goes black. Now back in the old days i've dealt w/ the wrong Panel Types and different NBH files but it was obvious because I could always install fine it's just that there were groups of messed up pixels etc. Now it goes completely black. So i've never seen that before. Does that mean wrong NBH/Panel Type? I was going to use Losers NBH editor but it was pulled down recently. Is this the standard practice now a days w/ only certain panel types being released?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
I'd try a standard NBH for now, I recommend getting one from Kallt, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=660158 since it includes the nbh editor, I think the extra memory NBH is only for Froyo, so be aware that there may be issues if used with other builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fiddelm3742:
Well i was trying the new froyo build, but i'll try that NBH, and thanks for the help snagging editor :) I was hexing it earlier. Just couldn't find where/what to change at first.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fiddelm3742:
No Dice.

Still flashes to my ATT Screen, then REALLY quick to the Tux screen then off.

I reapplied my Hard SPL 3.34 i think

Tried diff NBH's, (modified the panel types) nuttin.

Maybe i should flash an offical ATT rom and then try again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giveen:
Thank you for responding.

I don't know what I did wrong, but I switched to polymod 2.1 and it installed!

I probably screwed up somewhere but everything is working now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fiddelm3742:
Well mine is working now. Even after trying all diff panel types in the NBH it still wouldn't work. I flashed back to a stock ATT rom. I then tried install again. This time i also realized i wasn't pulling the battery after flashing the android NBH file so i pulled it, waited, put it back in and started it up.

Got the normal tux screen/console output and it didn't turn off. Woot!!!!

So it was either 1, going back to stock rom, then to Android, or 2. pulling the battery after the flash.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Juraus:
Installation stopped at step #9

Help please... my installation stopped at step #9 before 'Installation menu'. I used this guide -> How to replace Windows Mobile with Android

See bootlog.txt below (if any help):

** /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

** Phase 1 - Read and Compare FATs

Attempting to allocate 1356 KB for FAT

Attempting to allocate 1356 KB for FAT

** Phase 2 - Check Cluster Chains

** Phase 3 - Checking Directories

** Phase 4 - Checking for Lost Files

Next free cluster in FSInfo block (24090) not free

Fix? yes

5 files, 1290484 free (322621 clusters)

sh: 0: unknown operand

mount: mounting /dev/block/mtdblock2 on /system failed: Invalid argument

mount: mounting /dev/block/mtdblock3 on /data failed: Invalid argument

mount: mounting /data/tmpcache on /cache failed: Invalid argument

mount: mounting /data/shared_prefs on /shared_prefs failed: Invalid argument

mount: mounting /data/tmpcache on /tmp failed: Invalid argument

mount: mounting /data/sysfiles/su on /system/bin/su failed: No such file or directory

mount: mounting /data/sysfiles/su on /system/xbin/su failed: No such file or directory

mount: mounting /data/sysfiles/su on /bin/su failed: Invalid argument

mount: mounting /data/sysfiles on /system/etc/ppp failed: No such file or directory

mount: mounting /data/sysfiles on /smodem failed: Invalid argument

---

Kernel version: Dzo's kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-eclair-02-07-10.nbh

Android version (trying to install): VaniljEclair RLS7c - A fast and stable CM 5.0.8 for Vogue/Kaiser/Polaris [2010-07-02]

-Juraus
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roos_t:
I have the same problem :-/ ... it just stops there... anybody knows what to do?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sancho1234:
What is the best preferred method for full backup for Nandroid?

Ie.: I would like to make a backup in case if the system is damaged.

Is it proposed to use the backup in the kernel menu?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ggoogle:
Try some applications like SpriteBackup or Mybackup Pro.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sancho1234:
Okay, thank you, I will try that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Good morning!

...

I have already installed several distros of Android, both via SD and NAND, but when I try to access the Android Market or any Google Account, always get a message saying my connection is having problems ....

Already updated the radio to 1.71 but Kaiser is always the same.

Reading a community on Orkut which the staff was installing an older version of the panel to run Android Market.

I've already set the apn and proxy exactly as in WM.

And the strange thing is that in some versions of Android works only on Internet, in others not so.

What Do I have to upgrade anything else?

Just went back to WM (where everything works) because the net on Android is not working right for me ...

What should I do?

Marcelo
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Downgrade to radio 1.65 series and try again :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Hi

I have downgraded the radio to 1.65, but only work internet...market place doesn't work...

my phone is at&t tilt. theres a different way to get market place working for me?

PS: i live in Brazil (South America), maybe there's a good radio that works best for me...

i think...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mr_ppp:
This is great, has got me to dust off my old Kaiser to test and it works great! Found out my Kaiser does have the rare panel 1 lol! tried 2 then 3 and it looked like windows set to 8 bit colour! :) Good job!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] r4ma1r:
I had the same issue with the tgz I just move the file over to a linux box and ran gunzip against it then moved it back over to the sdcard and everything then worked fine. So something strange when it tries to handle the tgz file.

Didn't do much more testing past that since I finally got it to work :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] CruelIO:
Cant install andriod...maybe i have bricked it

Hi

I tried servel of the guide but i must have done something wrong, because now by phone boots linux a then does nothing, it has created a bootlog in the andboot directory of the sd card.

If i press power button + cam button + reset i get the red-green-blue white screen. In the top it says "KAIS130 SPL-3.56.Hard CPLD-8" and i the bottom it says serial (and if i connect it to the usb cable it says usb)

I think there are missing some folders on the sd-card but i dont know where to find them and the appropriate files. Any one got an idea?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] r4ma1r:
From the logs I think with my very limited experience that it is still in the process of starting you just need to let it sit longer. The very first boot can take quite a long time to the point of seeming that it's not working. Wait 10 minutes or so and see if it will get to a splash screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] CruelIO:
Thank you for your suggestion. I have now waited for 25 minuts and still nothing happends, dont know if I peharps have mixed to different installations :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] r4ma1r:
The one thing I did was use the suggestions in the thread somewhere of creating folders on the sdcard called

datafstonand

systemfstonand

rootfstonand

I also used these

kaisimg-panel2-240x320-2.6.32-tilt-froyo-02-09-10_16.nbh

Then

Incubus26Jc's_Super_FroYo_RLS15_All_Language

I had some issues with it not liking the tgz file so gunziped it to be just a tar file even though there is no reason it shouldn't work it just kept getting an error related to short read on tar prior to doing this.

Otherwise I just followed the process outlined at the start of the thread.

Hope that helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Note that the methods outlined in this post are now very out of date, you may have some success using them, but it's unlikely.

The Android on Kaiser world has moved on considerably from these methods, and now only one folder is used, the Andboot folder, which must contain the androidinstall.tgz/tar, there is no need to have any other folders or files on SD apart from the .nbh file used for flashing to nand.

( Side note: Can we have this thread unstickied sometime, it is really out of date and confuses a lot of new users unnecessarily).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cnigro1279:
in agreement....

I agree with Zenity on this one......To get started the more recent way, try this thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=680518

DZO's Fresh Froyo with the more recent kernels are blazing fast.....

Zenity's/Poly's Eclair and Kalt_Kaffe's VaniljEclair are virtually rock stable....

Just to give my uneducated opinion:)

Much thanks again to the great ones listed above......

The Jedi Masters of the Kaiser Android!!!!

Zenity also has a great black and white tutorial in this thread as well...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=760518
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Problem Camera Driver Froyo 2.2

There's a way to update the camera driver?

Because i was take some pics today, and the images on built in camera are very poor.

I have downloaded the Camera Magic app on Android Market and this makes my phone freeze...

What i can do to uptade the camera driver or just fix it?

One more doubt...

What i need to do to take manila 2d homescreen on Froyo? I need what type of software?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] CruelIO:
Thank you finally got it working. I Reformatted the sdcard and copied the files baack on, and the everything worked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lucklaodo:
is there a nbh for niki? thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] acnidre:
do not only "single press" to middle button...

you must keep pressing to middle button!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
install using install-seq.sh via atools.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hrustile:
I try to compile initrd but it to big. It about 400mb. Help me please
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
maybe you are not so skilled...

also this is the wrong thread to talk about it (there is another one with the same problem)

the solution is recreating all the links.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hrustile:
I remade it, and... again 224,7 mb. Help me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] championc:
Where would I find an .nbh file for the KAIS-130 (UK Tytn II - V1615) ?

C
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n2rjt:
It is good to explore old threads for answers to questions. The problem is that sometimes the answers you find are outdated. This is a good example. The link takes me to a folder where someone has uploaded a kernel with many different variants, for different screen resolutions (320, 428, 480), different screen hardware types (1, 2, 3), and a different keyboard type. This is obsolete for two reasons. First, atools is a fine editor that lets you edit a single kernel file to match whatever you want. Second, we have newer kernels. The newest is the separate cache kernel.

If somebody reads this post six months from now, you will probably still be happy with atools, although it might be a newer version, but you should search to be sure that you have the newest non-experimental kernel. We do like to experiment, so be sure you get something that people have reported to be good. Whatever kernel you use, be sure to get the matching drivers, usually packaged as an androidupdate.tgz (or .tar) file.

What ROM is best? That varies with personal preference.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Jaguarius:
No, they aren't. There's a command line in that first thread to fix that tho, or I imagine you could edit the default.txt in the .tar file. I just haven't gotten to it yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SVrider:
this is file not found, idea?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] samtruman:
Same configuration and same experience, I also want to know how we can modify zImage that is (probably) inside NBH file, otherwise is impossible to fix wifi, gps, bluetooth and suspend mode...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
You need to rebuild the nbh to modify zImage, i'm waiting for a how to that i can post on first page
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tia95:
Here's the complete link:

it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/kaisimg-320x428-20-01-10.nbh

(I Have to removed the http because I am a new user :()

I have flashed this with a recent build of android = success :D

Tia95
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aqtrans:
Anyone had success in charging their phone using NAND? I got mine to charge a total of about 5 mins, then it stops charging and doesn't register that it's plugged in.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
Updated Roms with each display type and size:

http://www.megaupload.com/?f=SA71F1MT
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Jaguarius:
BEWARE Charging Issue

Yea, like the guy above I think I have a big problem ... phone won't seem to charge. It charged before but this time I let it totally die, and I tried plugging it in an it appears that ... it is not charging.

So essentially my phone is dead, currently. So beware of install to NAND.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
charging

try removing battery and powering on with only power, are you charging from usb port or wall socket?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SVrider:
very thx, this ok
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Jaguarius:
Battery Issue

I tried both USB and a wall charger. With the battery out, the phone will not turn on (although the keyboard back-light is on if you slide it).

I have removed the battery and tried various configs - right now it looks like it's charging as the light is on - just randomly worked after about 20 mins of screwing with the battery and chargers. Although the charging light is on, the phone will not start at all currently power button does nothing.

I have gotten it to start in a similar state by removing the power adapter and booting from battery but since it has like 1% power, it doesn't get far.

The next issue is, when the phone is nearly dead android just crashes - starts up to the lock screen and crashes.

I know it's alpha software, I am posting these observations in hopes that the problem can be tracked down. I really like android running from NAND, it makes this phone a lot nicer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
weird, what build you using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aqtrans:
Personally I've tried plemen's Donut build and just this morning tried dzo's 1.5 ION. When I get home I'm going to try starting over from scratch, reflash one of the NBHs on the first page and try using androidinstall.tar again.

EDIT: Just flashed with diagdave's new "KAIS-320Type2.NBH" along with these system, rootfs, and data.img files. Battery meter shows 99% right now, and won't register when I plug it in (wall socket or USB). I'm going to leave it on and let it run down then try powering it up without a battery.

EDIT2: After a few hours, the battery meter went down a bit and I was able to charge it. Capacity shows ~4200mV. I'm now going to run it down to 0% and charge back up. It's actually running off battery right now though, so I assume it's working properly now. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
mines been work fine, and been using it before it even was out lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idumych:
Pixel Density

Does anyone know how to change pixel density on a nand install? when I used dzo's installandroid.tar it worked just great, but when I used his same nhb to install donut, the resolution is way too high.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
what density did you want i have set 160 on all mine, apart from 240x320 which is 120. check out megaupload links on page 1 of my thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Updated first three posts
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rzk333:
I have the same, I think that is cause of kernel autostart when charger connected in poweroff state.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
How can i include a new image during boot ( not splash image)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tia95:
I'm trying to complie a .nbh with a fully functional kernel, but I have not understood this passage:

after that you'll need to download and extract any windows kitchen, and install wine however your linux distro requires and make a note of the path you extract nbhmerge.exe to as you'll need it in your tinboot.S file, along with the path to your kernel zImage and initrd-mini.gz

after that if you've got everything else in place, go ahead and run the compilekaiser script in the tinboot dir and you should have an nbh

if the nbh won't flash (i had this issue) copy the output.nb file, boot into windows, and use nbhutil.exe to convert it to an nbh and flash that one. for some reason yang doesn't work right for me personally

Where should I specify the exe on the tinboot.s?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
I have a couple new boot screens I made up really quick. check post #4
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
I'm downloading arm toolchain right now, but i think this is for linux users only
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
I'm wondering if it's possible to use Cygwin as a cross-compilation environment?

This would allow easier access to windows tools, rather than setting up a full Linux environment, it's certainly worth investigating.