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[Hero CDMA Android Development] rockcrawler:
+1, everyone needs to take a pill. Maybe they all took a break, maybe they are working their arses off...... you get what you get until you can do what they do yourself.:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] alexthearmo:
fair enough. ;)

I was just more fishing for information about progress. I could wait 2 more months...it's not vital for me to have a newer/faster ROM...i am just curious as to how the progress is coming.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] wtphoto:
lol really wasnt directed at anyone imparticular just trying to say thanks to all the guys working on this project for those of us that dont know the first thing about where to start.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Well, it doesnt matter. Devs do this for free. Let's just stop talking about this in a dev thread and take it elsewhere. Dev only in this thread people.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] obelisk79:
just *****ing, but holy **** I'm getting tired of downloading source-code...

This **** better pay off lol.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] obelisk79:
Well I'm wading neck-deep in our kernel's source, and I'm doing a fair amount of data collection at this point. After that it will be like weaving the pieces of two puzzles together in a way that actually works... it'd probably help if I had a better grasp on the linux kernel. Sleep now, I'll probably have nightmares of code scrolling through my dreams.....
[Hero CDMA Android Development] obelisk79:
Any of the other devs working on this care to share the methods they are currently using to try and get a functioning port?

I'm actually taking two approaches myself right now. One using diff to pick out the hero specific parts from our source and vthe otherros compiling a vanilla kernel and trying to boot it after adding a little at a time.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Kcarpenter:
You have that happen too?:eek:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] obelisk79:
yeah, not sure if I would consider it a good or a bad thing.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] daryelv:
Yeah, it doesn't help either when HTC renames a file dependent on the phone they're customizing it for. e.g. board-heroc-camsensor.c or board-desire-camsensor.c. Requires a lot of rebuilding Makefiles to keep things straight. Did you ever setup a git repository? I might have to boot over to my Linux partition and do a pull and see if I can help out at all.

-Daryel
[Hero CDMA Android Development] toastcfh:
Maejrep has put his source for his port of .29 on github. It doesn't boot and most likly isn't getting past setup. It's been up though so it there for anyone to tinker with.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jaybob413:
Has anyone tried used the HTC Tattoo (Click) Kernel source code as a base to port the HEROC board and driver files to?

I have been taking a looking at the various 2.6.29 source trees over the last couple of weeks and comparing them to the released HEROC source using Meld to do a visual compare and DTSearch to build a full text search repository for the various versions. I am thinking that perhaps the HTC Click source tree may require less work, as it should already have some of the HTC specific changes included. Any thoughts, comments and especially experiences on this path before I go much further would be greatly appreciated.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] HeroMeng:
Looks like the Droid Eris has a leaked .29 kernel. If we can get our grubby hands on it, this will be a MAJOR breakthrough. The Eris already has the HTC optimizations, so it will mean much less work.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] MattDrumz:
Hey guys, I've been looking at extended batteries for the myTouch 3g, and I just found one on ebay. Does it seem like a good and reliable one? It says it is 3.7V Li-ion 2100mAH, but to tell you the truth, I don't really know what that means. It also comes with a cover. Will it add a ton of thickness to my phone, and do you know if the case around my myTouch will still fit?

Link

Thanks.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] thebluecoat:
Regarding your battery

Hello!

Here's my opinion on your battery.

The original battery inside your phone now is 1340mAh (milliamp hours).

The one you're looking at is 2100mAh, which for you would be a 56.71% increase in battery life.

The upside:

Ridiculous battery life

The downside:

1970's soviet era technology backing for your phone (it's terrible looking).

No accessories skins/acrylics would really accommodate your phone. You'd have to rely on a universal-type side holster.

The battery is off-brand and ships from China, the quality of these cells are unknown, and who knows how old.

Perhaps try reputable battery brands such as "Seidio" or "Mugen"

I recently purchased a Seidio 1500mAh slim profile battery, which gives me an 11.94% increase in power, whilst allowing me to keep my current backing on with NO increase in device thickness.

Couple this with some operating system tweaks and or a new rom specifically made for battery improvements and you should really enjoy from then on in.

Good Luck!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Deleted member 704404:
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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] silvertag:
Data connection will be down from 24th to forever unless you update your rom with this update (says Rogers).
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] qberty:
How many times do you guys want to post this information? there are 3 threads now about the same thing.
[Networking] Tamate:
After an upgrade on the old xda iis from wm 2003 to wm5 my wifi will not turn on. When I click on the wireless manager icon nothing happens. Am I missing a driver or software? If so where can I download the fix?

I read some of the posts in this forums and someone suggested to check the registry keys, being a dumb arse, how do you check registry on a pda?

Hopefully its a driver issue and I will not be required to enter the registry.

Cheers for any help
[Networking] Tamate:
All fixed

Ok, just upgraded to "I did put a link here but not allowed due to being a newbie

http: //rapidshare.com/files/287331806/Build_21827.rar

installed and all i good, XDA IIs

remove the spaces
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] egasber:
Anyone else having this issue: After the Vista 32bit update yesterday, now my device center repeatedly crashes. Uninstalled and re-installed, no change, still crashing. Never had any problems before this. Haven't seen any posts anywhere about this new issue yet, so I'm wondering if it's just my machine....
[G1 Android Development] BRad Barnett:
I just received the following SMS:

So, here's the thought. Clearly they are going to be looking for something. Perhaps the radio is going identify itself, as DREAM.OK or some such?!

Obviously, they aren't looking for people to call in, one by one to re-activate their service.

Another option would be some sort of "now that you have installed the rom, SMS this code to rogers.upgrade.done...

Ideas? I'd hate to see all non-Rogers Dream ROMs blacklisted, because they didn't include "Dream.fixed' in some tag somewhere....

EDIT:

Ah, if anyone is curious, you can find the ROM at http://www.rogers.com/techsupport
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
eeee

Yea, I'm wondering whats goona happen here. Rogers has a history of ass-hattery, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they shut off data access to all non-rogers roms. They've been fighting to keep custom roms off their phones since day one.

I'm goona call them tomorrow to find out how exactly, they are planning to be disabling data services to non-compliant devices.

P.S. I have successfully called 911, with my G1, with the GPS enabled, running CM 4.0.9, and CM 4.1.11, with radio 3.33, and I've also verified on a friends stock G1, that 911 works fine, so I suspect there is more to the story.

I've created a Facebook group to track updates, and give us some better sticky handling of resolutions: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=265860828421
[G1 Android Development] dr.killphd:
Radio firmware

The new radio firmware they are pushing is 3.22.26.17.

Kernel version 2.6.27-d5acf552

u70000@android-X01 #12

It's a standard 1.5 image without sense UI or any new features.

SPL 1.33.0010 is pushed preventing fastboot writes to the phone.

The final kick in the face is that they patch the exploit used to root the android OS via flashrec-1.1.2-20090909.

If your a dream user and apply this patch, you will not be able to root your phone until flashrec is updated.
[G1 Android Development] gNooB:
I can confirm that.
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
eYup

Just got off the phone with Rogers LVL 2 and 3 support.

They say that the are discontinuing data services to all G1 phones, until some script runs through, which detects your "update version".

No one in level 2 or 3 knows what exactly this script is "detecting" other than the "update version". They don't know if its looking for android version, radio version, or spl, nor do they know if anroid 1.6, radio 3.33, splwhatever is good enough (even though 911 calls work fine for me).

At any rate, my phone is on a corporate account, so they're taking me a tad more seriously than I'd expect from Rogers. LVL 3 guy is making some calls (after fighting with him for 2 hours), to find out if perhaps our data services won't be disconnected, so long as we're running android 1.6+/radio 3.33+.

Will update when I hear back from them.

Call in, complain. Demand to speak to the "office of the president" (Apparently the guys with some measure of authority?)

*UPDATE*

So I spoke to "the supervisor for the office of the president of Rogers", and he says in a rather scripted tone, "Rogers does not allow any non-rogers provided and supported phones on their network. Connecting a non-rogers phone to the rogers network, is a breach of contract, as outline in the terms and conditions."

So, we went over the terms and conditions, line by painful line, to find the part that says Rogers only allows Rogers branded phones on their network. We were unfortunately, unable to find said stipulation.

Overall, they've said they don't care if discontinuing your data services means the loss of your business.

Now, thus far no one actually knows what Rogers is looking for, to determine how they're going to know if you've updated or not, but what they DID say, is that once they've determined that you've updated, data services will be restored to your account. This suggests that the data services will STAY activated, even if you install another ROM.

I'll test this tomorrow/monday, by putting my sim into a g1 thats been updated with Rogers ROM, wait till data services come up, and then drop my sim back into my phone. We'll see.

Any questions or concerns regarding this update, should probably be directed to Trever Rodrigez (team manager for the office of the president of Rogers) - 416-935-7543
[G1 Android Development] timekeeper:
This is only for HTC dreams right? Not unlocked Tmobile G1's running CM 4.2.13 on Rogers?
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
question. my account says im on a blackberry bold 9000, will this effect me since im using my htc dream on the account or will they overlook me not knowing im on the dream?

*edit*

im guessing they know im using my htc dream due to i got the txt msg.. so that rules that out

but arent they breaking the contract terms by disabling our data until we do their new since update since we signed before this update was even thought about?
[G1 Android Development] ezterry:
Did they text you about a e911 issue? I don't think flashing a Rogers firmware on a T-Mobile G1 a good idea.
[G1 Android Development] Deleted member 1979557:
Everything working fine, CM 4.2.13 , rooted, and 2.22.19.26. 1.6 recovery

Maybe they are also checking whether or not the phone was bought from them or from another source , by checking IMEI/SN. Not sure , but everything is fine with my internet access.
[G1 Android Development] BRad Barnett:
Ok, first the nitty and gritty.

Bell Canada already lost this argument, back in the late 70s or early 80s.

Back then, Bell only allowed "Bell Canada approved phones", or at the time, Northern Telecom phones. They claimed that other phones could "harm their switches", and so on, and so forth.

The also claimed that modems were an "abuse of the line", and that fax machines could not be connected without paying a special fee.

All three of these things were overruled, either by CRTC or court decisions at the time. The CRTC/court did not buy the hogwash, that phones designed to work on Bell's network, by competitors, were somehow a danger to Bell.

The same parallel can be drawn here, and is likely why the poster above, did not find that statement in the TOS provided by Rogers. Rogers' legal likely knows that if they push too hard to keep such phones off their network, a court or CRTC decision based upon prior prescident will force them to move to a fully open network.

That is, the CRTC or a court, will not buy that standard GSM phones, designed for a standard GSM network, running on a GSM network built and designed to be compatible with standard GSM phones, will cause issues.

It won't, and it is hogwash.

That said, there is a big difference between refusing to help with cell phone specific issues, and blocking cell phones off their network. Refusing to help with cell phones specific issues, with cell phones they are not familiar with, is reasonable.

Blocking cell phones, for no other reason that they assume there are issues with them, is not reasonable.

This all said and done, what would they be keying on? That is, is there a version string on the ROM? If so, why would we even care if the rom said DREAM in it?

Why not call it "MAERD_NOT" instead?

Is this hard coded in the radio? I'd guess so....

Opinions from any developers would be very, very appreciated...
[G1 Android Development] BRad Barnett:
I can confirm the same.

I had thought that their disconnect was tomorrow, I did not realise that today was the 24th. I guess it makes sense, as everyone will have issues on Sunday, and theoretically have time to update on their day off..

So, so far, perhaps they are triggering only on the specific bad version of the rom, which is the logical thing to do...
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
hrm

Well, I'm running CM 4.2.11, android 1.6, radio 3.33, and spl 1.33.xx, and its 1144 on 01/24/2010, and I've not lost my data services.

For the time being, it looks like they're just looking for either Android 1.5+, or radio 3.22+. I'm goona leave my phone as is for now, and see what happens. We'll see what happens over the next few hours, but their update process is clearly not what we've been told. (Data services was supposed to be disconnected for all G1 users at 0600, period.)

P.S. I asked Rogers very specifically, if they were going to probe each phone to find out which were effected by the 911 bug. They said they were disconnecting data services to ALL G1 handsets, until some script on their side, could log into our devices, and check that the update was in place. *sigh*
[G1 Android Development] SilentTweak:
Yeah my internet's been disabled too now. It happened around noon for me. I really hope someone comes out with a fix for this. I called in to Rogers too and asked if he could reactivate my data for me but he was like, "Your SIM is from 2004, so it is too old, please use the SIM provided with your phone and call us back to reactivate your number." Not sure what that means though. He said something about how it might not work.

Additionally, I'm also on CM 4.2.13.
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
I can't believe how low traffic this thread is. Are there only 7 people in Canada, running non-rogers g1's?
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
I agree, and told Rogers all of this last night. They said "There are no legal ramifications to discontinuing service to unsupported handsets".

I pointed out that this is not an issue of "support", rather it was an issue of them purposefully and forcefully un-supporting non-rogers branded phones and software, which HAS and WILL AGAIN, have legal ramifications.

All this is well and good, except that it seems there are only 7 of us using non-rogers roms :p wtf.
[G1 Android Development] zydus:
I'm in Toronto and I can confirm I just loss my data 15 minutes ago. So do the instruction on page 1 work? I'm wondering if I should wait and see or just go ahead with the flash.

I'm running Dwang's Rom.

Follow this on the Android subforum on the rogers forum at howardforums. Lol..I'm not allowed to post links sorry.

Edit: This is what I see in fastboot

HBOOT - 1.33.2005 (DREA21000)

CPLD-4

RADIO-2.22.19.26I
[G1 Android Development] ben.selinger:
What Radio are you running?

Can anyone who HAS lost data services, report back their radio version?

You can do this by starting your phone in fastboot mode (camera+power button). Radio version is at the top left.
[G1 Android Development] natmanz:
I updated my system and boot partitions, but not the radio and SPL (you can extract the images from the update if you know how...). I didn't want to update the radio in case it wasn't compatible with 1.33.2005 SPL. I also lost my data connection a couple hours ago. If it doesn't come back by tomorrow, then I know that it must be the radio version that they're checking for.

Edit: Radio is 3.22.20.17. Hasn't been touched since I got the phone when it came out.
[G1 Android Development] zydus:
Added on my post.
[G1 Android Development] Broncosis:
no love

well I have spend 2 more hours on hold with only about

15 minutes of talk time with 3 people and well

there is still no help for me they will not help me at all
[G1 Android Development] a2000rick:
I waited for more than an hour to get a representative to speak with. I told him that I was using an HTC Dream, but <lie> not one from rogers </lie>, and that I could not update it with the rogers firmware. He said I still could, and I told him I didn't want to since it was 1.5 and mine was 1.6. He then told me to take out the battery, wait 30 seconds, and put it back in. After that I had 3G data again!

Just keep on calling until you find someone reasonable.
[G1 Android Development] Broncosis:
finnaly

I just talked with a tech who did a reflash for me

all is good

I told him I did the update and I had already been on hold for hours

and that another tech had said it would help and bing he did it my call drop I rest the phone and sweetness
[G1 Android Development] b3395617:
that's so true.

Thought After doing the update, the 3g would come back on, but it didn't , also like what killphd said, i can't root my g1 anymore by using flashrec anymore, is there any other way to root the updated g1?
[G1 Android Development] aerok:
Not yet, give it time
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
Wow rogers really dont want you guys using rooted phones with better roms =/

They even went as far to put a new SPL and radio with the update that is still 1.5 not even 1.6, what a shame.
[G1 Android Development] alan090:
To restore Data

dbl post ;(
[G1 Android Development] alan090:
To restore Data

1. call *611

2. say cancel my service

3. get rep and say your phone data doesnt work and you updated 24h ago and need something called a "resend to switch" or network reset

* note cx care or tech support both can do this w/o escalating, but if they wont do it , escalation should prove safe to get a resend done, it should disconnect your call on the phone and then power cycle the device and voila

4. win

( ive stated this since sunday since i did it to get my data back on 1.6 on my magic - if u cannot get someone to do a resend to switch then thats the reason the data is not working )
[G1 Android Development] xaueious:
How does Rogers know if you upgraded the phone or not? Does anyone know if they know what phone firmware you have when you connect to their network? I presume they know your IMEI.

I submitted my serial number on the HTC site anyways.
[G1 Android Development] alphayoung:
I just tried Rogers Live Support. After stating my situation I asked for a "network refresh". The rep asked for IMEI, build number and update time. I gave him my IMEI but said mine is using a custom rom so build number doesn't comply what you guys are asking for. Anyways, after several minutes he said "you device is now attached", don't really know what that means. I asked for an ETA but he was unable to provide one. He then asked if there was anything else I said no, so I ended the session. But my 3g is not up yet, even after trying removing the battery. I'll see if given more time it will come back. Otherwise I'll trying calling and speaking to them directly.
[G1 Android Development] alan090:
dont use chat do it on the phone so u know it will be completed when u get disconnected on the call
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
just an update, its been over 24 hours since my network refresh + i downloaded the update from htc site with my s/n, havent had 3g go out once since.
[G1 Android Development] chenzhu_an:
Mine is good too, since the time I entered my s/n in htc website/download page. I'm using the eclair now. No need to call rogers customer suppport. Pls check my previous post if you want to know the detail. :)
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
which eclair rom are you using?
[G1 Android Development] chenzhu_an:
The one by manup456
[G1 Android Development] no_cannabis:
I'm going to check if updating my Rogers ROMed Magic and restoring connection will allow me to use the Dream (got Magic as an upgrade but still use G1). By the way, just got off the phone with a Rogers rep, who said that we get a month of Internet credited for all the hassle.
[G1 Android Development] b3395617:
hey, can i still get the upgrade? is it for free or do you have to get on another 3 years 3 year contract?
[G1 Android Development] no_cannabis:
It was free with prolonging your contract. But I say 7 months extension was totally worth the Magic, especially with their update to Sense UI.
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
7 months.. wow. You actually fell for it!

When you finally decide to change providers, you'll find that NEITHER of your robbers-crippled phones will work with the new provider and you'll have to get a new phone anyways.
[G1 Android Development] Sleeepy2:
I "fell" for it also. it added less than a month for me. Now I can sell the magic and save up for the next provider/phone :P

I think it was worth less than a month to me.
[G1 Android Development] b3395617:
it sucks that rogers 3g network isn't compatible with the rest of the world, I'm considering switching cellphone provider now, what is a good company?
[G1 Android Development] dawgbone98:
This is what I got from online support:

Sounds like anyone who asks for a network refresh is going to get scanned again.
[G1 Android Development] Unicornasaurus:
It's been over 36 hours now having my data back and I haven't lost the connection once.
[G1 Android Development] jehamish:
I've called them 4 times now, 3 times yesterday - being honest the first 2 times and saying I have a custom firmware, which I need for the device to be useful to me. Then, in the evening, I called them and claimed I was using an unlocked iPhone so I could at least have data as long as my dream was useless.. they basically told me that they can't escalate any issues from people who're registered (or say) they're using an htc dream unless they've said they upgraded - even if I was using a different phone. So I tried again just now and claimed I had done the upgrade yesterday, he went through all the steps and I'm pretty sure he did one or two network refreshes for me, but the data connection never came back on. It seems like they're scanning the devices after each network refresh now, and I basically came to an impasse after the refreshes didn't work and he asked me for my firmware and build versions - as I had no proper response for him in terms of the build version.

I'm going to try getting it reconnected tonight from my room-mate's unrooted dream though, as I did the update for him yesterday and I assume he has data back. We'll see.