yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] athanaso77:
This is what i like in your roms!!! :D

It is absolutely sure that it is not a problem of your rom... but it's a 2.10 issue.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] PROTOCHIP:
Dear mr.vandalay,

When you slide to ereader tab and then to settings tab-sound/display settings section; you will see a blank screen... hope this helps...

Kind Regards...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] OrionBG:
Thanks! Any chance of the dialer pad icon fixed in your release?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
grrr i hate it too, but i asked some more experienced chefs and they don't know how to do it...

if anyone does please let me know as it's really poking my eyes
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] niknik76:
mr.vandalay, have you any plans on releasing a ROM without manila?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] athanaso77:
I can confirm the above bug, it is a problem of e-reader tab.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] athanaso77:
I would also want to propose to use the old camera drivers as the following issue appears...

In the old driver, in force flash mode, the light is always on. now it only flash. If the autofocus work during the period where the light is on, it ok. But the problem now is it autofocus before the flash fire and thus rendering the focus incorrect due to lack of light during the focusing period. This is a problem with all 2.10 camera driver. So you may need to cook in the camera driver from 1.7.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
i was thinking about that , for all the spb mobile shell users :D

yes... that's true, i think we'll have to wait for official ereader tab..

i can cook older cam , no problem

@all

currently i'm using 1.66 base manila 1921 sys 21892 and some ext packages from tmous... and radio from 1.61

i'm trying to see if i get "sleep of death" now... i red a lot about it on the forum and no one actually found a solution. some said that htc confirmed that it's a hardware issue...

anyway i'm using this rom from this morning and had no SOD...

what do you guys think about all this???
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gianton:
regarding the sod issue, i can confirm that in three different 2.10 base roms never happened. i am on topix 1.4 atm and no sod as of yet after 14 hrs.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Richy99:
i had the sleep of death happen this mornin, flashed the rom last night and noticed the alarm failed to go off this morning(it was there in the notifications but it was as though something was stopping it from running), seems to be something preventing the device, maybe a reminder that screws up the wakeup call as this morning i dismissed the alarm when it came up and then when i got to work ihad the sod issue
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
yeah i was on 2.10 base for 1 whole day and than it happened...

a lot of people blame alarms, facebook , weather updates etc.

i would really like to know what's happening , and i really hope it's not a hardware issue as a lot of people claim.

also what bugs me is that several users said that they experienced it on stock rom :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] OrionBG:
You can look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=596614 For some possibly helpful info on the matter!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
hey thanks for this :D

will cook it in after my little test
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] OrionBG:
You are welcome but still I'm not shure if it is a working solution! Still... there is some info on the DLLs that are responsible for the dial pad so I hope that you can do something about it! ;)

Keeping fingers crossed
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mikiort:
I think, there is a bug in this ROM

I think, there is a bug in this ROM (I tried the latest version 2.6, manila 2012 [radio 2.08] and also 2.2, manila 2011 [radio 2.06 and 2.07]).

If you listen to FM radio and remove the headphones without properly exiting the radio application (while the screen is off), the next time you'll try to call somebody or someone would call you, the phone will be stuck right after connecting. There will be no sound and the only way out is removing the battery.

If you just listen to the radio, but exit its application properly, prior to removing the headset, the calls would work OK.

I tried this scenario several time with this ROM and with different radio ROMs (2.6 ; 2.07 and 2.08)

The Dutys ROM (Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.2.21892) doesn't exhibit this behavior.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
thanks for pointing that out...

p.s. just expirienced SOD on 1.66 and 1.61 radio...

now i removed my sd card...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
Yes please share the ROM. I want to test it as well. I do believe it has something to do with hardware. My unit is 'from' HTC Asia hardware. Whenever I flash to 2.06 base and above, I will get SoD. Now using 1.66 base no SoD after 36 hours.

My hypothesis is that HD2 Asia unit (hardware wise...) is not FULLY compatible with 2.06 base and above.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pa49:
I've been using LeoLite Rom for a number of weeks now and I have never had the Sod occur.

A friend of mine has a unit that is only a few numbers away as far as the serial is concerned and he has been having the Sod, sometimes numerous times a day. He was on the point of returning the phone when we had a discussion about this.

It's my belief that all the problems are caused by bad software coding and installation to mem card.

I suggested that he hard reset (he's using stock ROM) and only sync his PIM stuff and see what happened for a few days.

Result - no SoD at all. (this was without mem card in the phone).

I then had him reinstall all his apps to the phone mem and leave out the ones that needed the mem card and test again.

Resut - No SoD. (again no mem card in the phone)

Then he reinstalled the the apps to the phone that needed the mem card storage space for data access only and no SoD.

He then uninstalled apps one by one and reinstalled to mem card.

After the third install to mem card he got the SoD.

His card was a cheapy (I couldn't ascertain the class) and I suggested he bought a good quality item and this has made things better, but, the SoD returns occassionaly.

I have since replicated this on a Touch Diamond 2 as well as my own HD2 and I got the SoD, but only rarely.

Try it for yourselves and see.

NB. After each install do a red button reset.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] athanaso77:
Another bug that i face is that after some calls, when i try to make a call, the screen does not respond. i can only stop the call procedure only with hard keys! :confused:

EDIT: It is not a rom bug, but a problem that i caused after some registry tweaking!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Steve_Walker:
I've seen this bug to. If you install BSB tweaks and set to not show system menus(?) and soft reset you get the sounds and notifications back in the settings.

This might just be me, but I have all the tabs as they should be now.

HTH

Steve
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Noam23:
I think that this can't be the only explanation to the sod problem.

For two weeks I've used stock 1.66 ROM with *zero* sod, even though I install some apps to the memory card (simply because the stock ROM leave only a small amount of free storage memory).

24 hours ago I've installed "Leo Lite V2.5" with "2.08 RADIO". Because Leo Lite leaves so much free storage memory, I was able to not use the memory card at all for app installation. Still, in these last 24 hours, I've gotten 3 sods.

I'm now back to 1.66 stock ROM.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qukace:
I'm using these excellent ROM's from the begining.

My experience is that Maybe something changed from the v2.2. Until that never occured the SoD, but with the newer than v2.2 I got occaissonaly that bug. Now I turned back to the v2.2 ROM date 11.2.2010. OS:5.2.21891 (21891.5.0.88) with satisfaction.

That ROM is rock solid and atom stabile for every day use.

I'm waiting the solution for SoD patiently.

Many thanks again.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Noam23:
Important

: which RADIO are you using ? (please be exact, and if possible provide a link for download).

Thanks!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
hey everybody... i contacted Laurentius yesterday about SOD and asked his advice... anyway he said that he only experienced SOD on 21892 builds... which adds up to what you said... 2.2 (21891) build being stable.

so i made a rom base 1.66 drivers 1.66 radio from 1.61 manila 2012 ext 2012 and from yesterday had no SOD (with my sd card in the phone)

rom is even faster (imo) than tmous based ones...

about those bugs people reported.... i apologize but i can't fix them today or tomorrow as i really want to get to the bottom of this SOD crap.

so if it turns out that 21892 build is causing all this mess than i'll build new roms based on 21891.

Will keep you all updated!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gianton:
thanks for the update mate, glad you found the cause. your roms are an asset to the leo community. looking forward to your new releases!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Noam23:
I've got sods with 23534 too (your v2.5 ROM).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
will upload this one (1.66) would you test it?

just to see what happens...

i think that everything started with tmous drivers and 21892 build... maybe it has nothing to do with SOD maybe it does... so i'm testing a rom without tmous drivers, radio, base rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pa49:
I certainly agree with you here. There could be various other possible causes.

I would love to know for sure why I never get the SoD as I've had many combinations of ROM and radio.

I still maintain that a fair number of users get the problems from how their phones are setup and "managed". There are a lot of variables in play here and reducing them to a minimum would seem a logical way of eliminating possible sources of the causes.

Everyone is looking for a fix for his or her problem when good practice in use should really be the first priority as it's something we can all do.

mr vandalay,

2.6 version

Boot vibrate to sense loaded - 53 secs

Slightly longer than 2.3!

+ I d/ld the version without ereader and doc tab and found they were included?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Noam23:
Ok. I'll test it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pa49:
Just noticed that after 2.6 flash Device information tells me I have 2.3?????
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mikiort:
I flushed it also, but mine shows ROM Version: Leo Lite 2.6 WWE
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
i'm uploading SOD TEST ROM:

1.66 base and drivers

no 576mb rom enabled

build 21891

most ext packages and manila 2012 from 2.10 tmous rom

i removed document and ereader

please use radio from 1.61 rom

http://rapidshare.com/files/332295358/Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07.rar

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0GLX4O1B

also if you experience sod with this rom please report here in this thread!

rom will be online in about 1hr
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pa49:
Just to try and clarify I d/ld this

http://ftp.canardwc.com/HTC/HD2/ROM/Leo Lite/23.2.Leo_lite_V2.6.1_2.10base_ 21892sys.rar

2.2 164Mb

2.3 178Mb

2.6 155Mb

Nbh file size down from the previous two?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
ok,

2.6

the one with ereader tab and doc tab nbh has 170mb

the one without ereader tab and doc tab nbh has 155mb

2.3

manila without doc and ereader 164mb

manila with doc and ereader 179mb

as i build roms i just remove whatever i can... i experimented with different packages etc.

also i will check what you said that version without doc and er tab has them...

can anyone verify this...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mikiort:
I flushed a version without e-reader

23.2.Leo_lite_V2.6.1_2.10base_ 21892sys.rar

nbh file size: 148 MB (155,462,624 bytes)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
ok here's SOD TEST rom

http://rapidshare.com/files/355764568/02.24._1.66base__21891sys_2012manila_XPR.rar

i've put it on shared download so everyone can download you don't have to wait...

1.66 base and drivers

no 576mb rom enabled

build 21891

most ext packages and manila 2012 from 2.10 tmous rom

office 2010 , google maps 4

i removed document and ereader

please use radio from 1.61 rom

http://rapidshare.com/files/332295358/Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07.rar

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0GLX4O1B

also if you experience sod with this rom please report here in this thread!

thank you
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
and does it have ereader and doc tab or not?

file size is correct
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mikiort:
I flushed a version without an e-reader
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] athanaso77:
I see that there is a new build 21893. Why don't you use that?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
i will... just want to keep this 1.66 rom on my device to se if sod happens...

so far it's been +24hrs and no sod :)

if anybody flashed 1.66 rom i posted a few posts back please report back if you did or didn't experience sod
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
downloading. will flash & report back.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chrism_scotland:
Have to say this is the best ROM I've tried so far, very very quick!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
Already flashed "Test SoD" ROM. Gonna wait 24 hours before starting to install softwares. No BSB tweaking. Right now tweaking the plain Manila only (backlight, ringtones, notifications, etc.). Later will ActiveSync.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mmorisa:
No SOD

Mr Vandalay,

I never experience SOD but the ROM is not the latest one from you.

the ROM that I used is very stable and fast for me. I don't need that ereader or doc tab at all.

furthermore, the official released ROM by HTC in Asia is 1.66 so I stick with your 1.66 lite.

here is the screenshot;
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
thanks , i also think that 1.66 is the fastest rom...

great, now i use 166 test rom for 36hrs and no sod.

i'm using my sd card normally, installing apps on sd card, weather update , push mail... everything works.. i didn't even softreset for 36hrs.

also i red that builds 21892 23534 and 23540 had SOD

that's exactly how i think...

no ereader , no doc tab , plain and simple, fast and stable :)

thanks for your feedback
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
12hrs without SoD. this is a keeper. 1.66 base is stable so far. after 24 hours without SoD, then only install softwares.

Now that it's been more than 24 hours, I'm installing all my favourite software into the internal memory. if after another 24 hours without SoD, I'm gonna upgrade to 2.08 radio.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] .domi.:
this is what I've been looking for.. Thx man
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
i didn't have any problems so far... everything is fast and smooth...

please report back if you have any problems after flashing tmous radio.

no problem, glad you like it

i updated first post with this 1.66 base no 576 ram 21891 sys
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
TESTERS NEEDED

i build new rom:

build 21893

manila 2012 no ereader and doc tab

most packages from 2.10 tmous rom

office 2010

google maps 4

voice recorder from tmous with nice interface

NO 576 ram

direct link

as i don't have any beta testers and can't test everything i would appreciate if some of you who have time/will to test this and report your opinion of this rom

all feedback is welcome!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
more than 48 hours without SoD. gonna upgrade to radio 2.08. still testing 1.66 base.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Noam23:
This was a bad ROM for me. I'm using SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 and it is unstable and many things that always work, for some reason didn't work with this ROM.

I'm now testing V2.2, so far in 12 hours the device got stuck 1 time, it was during boot and I'm not sure if it was a sod. If I'm getting even one sod with this ROM I'm going back to 1.66 STOCK.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
thank you , keep me pposted :)

did you HR after flash... because that rom works really fast for me and without any bugs
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g.lewarne:
i might just be luck, i have never had a SOD. but saying that, i have never kept many 21889 builds for very long, thats why im using it in my rom, proven and stable. its a good choice by Mr Vandalay :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] colint3:
What is SoD

can someone explain what sod is
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vn1minh:
your version 2.2 without ms voice command seems to be the best lite rom around. I'm using it with radio 2.08.50.05 and it gives me the best performance as well as battery life. Also, 576MB RAM.

I tried all your later versions, they all seem to have problems so now i'm back to 2.2.

Great work ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] c4Lvin:
I would also like to know what is all this "SOD" is. As i do not read every post here, someone pls tell us what is that. thank you.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 3to4:
Hello,

I have been using your rom (Leo Lite V2.3 WWE Manila 1921 with 20 quick links) without any issues. It is very stable and fast. How can I use Manila in landscape mode? Can some one help?

I use my HD2 as GPS and I use it in landscape mode. So, it would be nice if Manila goes in landscape as well. Thank you.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
sod is "sleep of death" when you pres hardware key and keys light up but the device is unresponsive and screen doesn't turn on... it's been on 21892 23533 23540 builds, and some people believe that it can happen if you're using tmous drivers and 16gb sd card

glad it's working good for you

explained few rows up...

i never wanted to use manila in landscape , but i'll see if i can do it... think it's a reg tweak...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
72 hours without SoD on your "Test SoD" 1.66 base ROM. Therefore, it's proven (on my device) that the 21892, 23533 and 23540 builds have stablility issue. Gonna stick with this ROM (21891 build) for now. I've upgraded to 2.08 radio as well. No issue.

I will find a time to flash to your 21893 build ROM found here > http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5742804&postcount=466. Downloading it right now.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qukace:
I'm using the HD2 with the same confuguration (ROM and RADIO) for more than 2 weeks without any SOD as I've mentioned earlier. :) Excellent work. Here is the ROM's detail:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
@Qukace

glad it works for you :)

@dgtel2

thank you for testing, i really appreciate it!

i'll have 2.10 base 21893 sys 2012 manila up for test in a day or two
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
already flashed the 2nd SoD Test ROM build 21893. radio still 2.08. will report after 24 hours.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] c4Lvin:
thanks mr. vandalay for your assistance. not many here are willing to take their precious 30 seconds to help others like u do. thats why i continue to use your ROMS.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
the 1.66 base 21893 build sys is running smooth without SoD. 2.08 radio is playing nice as well. can't wait for 2.10 base 21893 sys.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
thanks , that's very kind :)

i'll upload it today ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] PROTOCHIP:
Dear mr. vandalay,

I have been trying v2.6 ( both versions with/without doc,ereader tabs ) since you uploaded and never faced a SOD till now. It is so weird most users get SOD. Even it is the most stable and fastest rom for me. I am using with 64 mb pagepool... I am waiting 21983 based rom and hope it includes 576 ram patch afaik it will be 2.10 based... Thanks in advance...

Kind Regards...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
yeah 2.6 is 21892 sys which had "sod"

i'll upload today 2.10 base 21893sys manila 2012 no ereader and no doc tab with 576ram , you'll need 2.08 radnio from tmous to use this rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] PROTOCHIP:
Dear mr.vandalay,

This is weird that i have never get SOD with 2.6 and still using it... Anyway thanks for the new version and efforts.... Waiting for 21893... Already have 2.08 radio from TMOUS rom. Thanks in advance...

Kind Regards...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
here's new test rom

http://ftp.canardwc.com/HTC/HD2/ROM/Leo Lite/TEST_03.01_2.10base_21893_m2012.rar

2.10 base

21893 sys

manila 2012 no doc and ereader

576ram

before flashing this rom you need to flash 2.08 tmous radio (if you don't have it already)

again, all feedback is welcome!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] forisp2004:
who said that 28192 build has sod ?:confused:

i'm with 21892 from 21/2 without sod.:eek: (without memmaid)

something else maybe causes sod.

i notice that in previous rom has 21891 build and for first time i had sod and the only change from the others roms was memaid dinarsoft.

i think the users who has notice sod tell us if had installed memaid.

i'll test your new rom 21893.:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
don't know what to say... a lot of experienced rom chefs think that 21892 23533 23540 had SOD , now i flashed my 21891 3 days and no sod , flashed 21893 2 days and no SOD, but with 21892 first day SOD

i really can't say with 100% but it fits at least in my case

p.s. Laurentius said that 21892 has SOD and he's one of the most experienced chefs around and he has his whole beta team to test/confirm bugs, freezes , SOD...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
Downloading...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skycamefalling:
With this test ROM I flashed one of your ROMs for the first time and guess what: It's great :)

At first I was confused as I saw that you left out programs like RSS Hub, My Phone and MP3 Trimmer but I'm glad that the ROM is very light and doesn't include any useless application.

The few programs I missed I did install manually.

I customised your ROM with 16 quicklinks, a black clock and the Token slider icons. Now it looks great and I could not find any bugs until now.

3G, HSDPA, My Location, iGO8 GPS...everything is working as it should.

If anything comes up I'll let you know but the system looks very reliable so far. By the way, the memory footprint is very low -very nice :D

Thank you very much for this.

:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Richy99:
just installed radio and rom and ill give it a test and report back
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
thank you all for testing... we'll make a kick ass rom :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] forisp2004:
i try a dialer with video call. i think works fine. i don't test video call yet because it's 2am.

mr.vandalay if that dialer really works i think you could have it in your next rom.:)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=596614
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] retrofred:
so far no SOD's

i am using the 21891 rom with no extra ram and kept the stock radio from the stock 1.66.707 and so far i haven't had a SOD yet. today is day two, and i am installing software slowly to see something i install triggers a SOD. seems to be a very random problem as not everyone has them.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pablo11:
Does this rom include navipanel? I use it a lot but I need a rom like yours and would like to try it.

Cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
The best LeoLite to-date.

I've flashed the LeoLite 3.0.0 WWE (aka 2.10 Base 21893 sys) with 2.08.50.08_2 Radio. Various software installed.

Conclusion after 12 hours : Perfect. No SoD. It is kick ass ROM to-date...lol