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[Touch HD Android Development] DarsVaeda:
I am able to download.
[Touch HD Android Development] samizzlah:
okey, I got some questions

1. where do I put my music if I want to see/play them on the music player?

2. Internet doesn't seem to work for me, everything else works, and when I choose network (tele2) nothing happens. Do I have to do something with that VPN/APN stuff or something? :o

3. How do I go to folders on my storage card in Android? on the older releases there was a file explorer included, something with Astro I think it was called.

4. How do I add contacts from my winmo to android? I have a google account but since the internet doesn't work on my phone I can log in. :confused:

please help, but all I can say is wow, 2.1c is very fast and works great.
[Touch HD Android Development] ynsx2:
Didn't help, left it there for 30 minutes and the same thing happened. I've tried the latest rootfs, zImage and system.sqsh. Sometimes the android boot splash does seem to be stuck, only for a second or 2 then the screen blinks black shortly then the splash resets and starts moving again (not having any output on the screen really doesn't help :)).
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Are you sure you've started with a blank SD card?... totally blank?

Did you use the cab or the zip install?
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
For most operators this is automatic, but it looks like you might need to add your operator APN manually. You will need to find out the values for yours (they are different for every operator).

Alternatively you can use Wifi.

You need to use the market to download a file manager (Astro, OI, or many others to browse your folders). They are not included in the release because many people like to choose their own apps, and don't like having a bunch of them already preloaded.

For contacts, use google contacts (that way they are stored with google and synced to your phone).It works the same for Winmo and Android (both sync to Google's online service) .. you can do the same for calendar too.
[Touch HD Android Development] samizzlah:
thanks, I used a wifi connection on a hamburger restaurant today and download OI File Explorer from Android Market so now I can browse files on my storage card. But how do I use Google Contacts?

EDIT: found out how to use Google Sync now, I have my contacts on my google account but Android doesn't seem to sync the contacts from my google account, do I need a internet connection to sync contacts into android?
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Yes you need internet connection, that's how the data is 'synced' from Google to your device.

Go to the settings screen and choose 'accounts' there are some options there for which data to sync. i.e. Contacts, Calendar etc...

You need to search on google for the ActiveSync parameters to Google Sync with WinMo... but it's very simple to do. I think the server is m.google.com (but have a search on google, they have the help pages there (takes about 90 seconds to set up...it's very very easy).
[Touch HD Android Development] samizzlah:
Yeah I figured out the Google Sync part :p

APN doesn't work for me, I've found the settings for my operator on their website but when I go to APN on Network settings in Android its only a black screen :confused:
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
You need to click the Menu button (the home key) to bring up the Android menu, then choose 'add'
[Touch HD Android Development] ynsx2:
Did another full format to fat32 and that seems to have done the trick. Thnx ;). I do have another question though, the overclock option (acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=650000) on the raphael, what speed does it get set to and it doesn't change the voltage supplied?
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
650mhz, and no
[Touch HD Android Development] ynsx2:
I really need to start reading better and stop being a newb :P. Ofcourse that meant 650mhz -.-'. Thanks for the help though!
[Touch HD Android Development] Amann:
Cant connect to android Marked via Wifi... i need to turn on my data connection but this costs money...

and using as mass storage doesnt work too yet... debug modus is on
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Mass storage is documented not to work.

Can you connect to anything with Wifi? works for most folks, inc market

What device?

Did you start with a clean SD Card? <--- common issue
[Touch HD Android Development] fr3sh_t0_d3f:
did a small search but couldn't find anything. What exactly is the difference between overclocked and normal?
[Touch HD Android Development] ynsx2:
Overclocked is, as the name implies, a version in which the processor inside your phone is clocked faster then it is set to normally (in WiMo). So for example the default of the HTC Raphael is 553MHz, the overclocked version (from this startpost) sets it to 650Mhz (outside of spec).

That means that it should run faster, however there is no guarentee that it will work on that speed nor about the lifetime of the device. It also means that the phone will get hotter.
[Touch HD Android Development] ebpomtl:
Hi :)

The question might have been asked, but I don't feel like going through 100 pages :|

I found my APN information, but when I go in settings, i always get a "searching network" message when trying to configure my apn. Anyway to update a file or something to put the info somewhere?

Edit: nvm, I wasn't looking at the right place. I needed to create a new APN service.
[Touch HD Android Development] gatorlounge:
T-Mobile HD2

I tried to install on my hd2 but its a no go wont even boot anybody know of a version that might work
[Touch HD Android Development] kendalfung:
on my HD, sync time function seems quite funny. If your time is very big different with sync time, system time will change. But device just run about few hours, it just slower than real time few mins. The sync function will not work. I think the os clock is not perfect match with device clock. If os run over 10 hrs, it will be late about over 10 mins. However, after reboot it, the time will match device clock at the moment. So i think the os clock counter is not work with device clock.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
That's why it doesn't say HD2

That's why it's on a HD forum

Please, be sensible... READ the forums before installing stuff on your device, you can actually kill a device doing the wrong thing...
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
That's correct..it seems the O/S isn't regularly updating from the Real Time Clock, so can slowly drift until the next reboot :-( It's only a couple of minutes for most people and hopefully this will be resolved in a later release.
[Touch HD Android Development] PeterLS:
Alarmclock repetition

The alarmclocks can be set to repeat on certain days. In a previous version, the repetition settings showed the names of the days. The current version shows only the day-numbers. That is confusing. Is day 1 a monday or sunday. You can't tell untill you have saved it and let your android go to sleep and wake it up. Very annoying.

Anyone else seen this?

cheers

Peter
[Touch HD Android Development] gatorlounge:
wow sorry

wow sorry i didn't mean to offend you by installing on hd2 i am aware of the risk of testing and aware the its an hd thread but it is htc and there are more than the hd being tested but i know now not to comment on testing on different devices again sorry and thanks again for the great work.
[Touch HD Android Development] DanRo80:
Whoa ! This jacked my WM ROM all up! It started freezing when it never had before. I did a hard reset and and it got worse, Screens got all messed up and cut off all over the place. I switched back to Windows because the Android wouldn't even import any of my contacts at all. So, I couldn't even call any of my contacts unless I knew their phone # precisely. I don't plan on using this again anytime soon.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
If you did a hard reset, it's impossible for Android to have an effect... it's a HARD reset...back to factory default.

Secondly, Android installs to the SD card and NEVER touches Windows (it doesn't even know it exists)

Android cannot import your contacts? from where? Android is NOT an 'application' that runs within WinMo... it's a new OS that shuts down WinMo and reboots into Android (NEVER EVER touching WinMo).

The only place Android is going to 'import' contacts is through Google Contacts sync... 'OTA' (over the air)

since we've had over 11,000 downloads... I strongly suspect that you're the more likely cause of the problems you've discovered. Either installing to the device and not the SD Card, or simply not following instructions, or understanding how your phone works.

I am more than happy to try to help people that discover issues in Android itself, but 'ruining' WinMo even after a hard reset just sounds quite ludicrous.

It might be an idea for you to inform the other 10,999 users that they are doomed.
[Touch HD Android Development] raymedia:
Hi there,thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I have successfully installed andiod on my HTC Touch Pro (6.1). I used the CAB installer. Everthing is perfect. Except there is no sound at all. I did read few comments re filename chars, but I am running it in native English platform and cannot find any non-EN chars using the tool i found on this forum. I have also reformated my sd card.

Bits that failed:

1. no rings tone

2. no system alert

3. no music sound

4. voice search error - (The application Voice Search (process com.google.andriod.voicesearch) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again)

The sounds is OK in WinMo mode. Any help, tips, guidence is highly appreciated. I really stay with Andriod and not very keen in moving back to WinMo :) Thank you, again.
[Touch HD Android Development] lebmb:
LMAO!!!!! i almost fell out of the chair reading that one! seriously u r too nice dude, if Olipro was around and he saw this, he woulda had a field day with this guy. i guess im one of those 10,999 users who is "ruining" WM and my devices, like the touch pro and touch pro2. lol
[Touch HD Android Development] DanRo80:
I'm Sorry,

I understand that so many people have had success with XDANDROID but also I am not an idiot or like to be talked to like one. I was only stating my experience with it, It's not as if I said that you were a piece of worthless crap. I only stated my experience with it. I can flash a ROM or edit the registry in my sleep and NEVER had an issue with the build until I ran this. Does it matter that I used my spare 1GB sd card (I fat32 formatted before hand to be certain)? I had nothing else on the card. It gave me the option to Import Contacts from SIM card, but it never did. But it was seeing my contacts on my card because when I received a call from a contact it showed the name that was in my SIM card. But never showed them on my contact list.

Once again, I didn't mean to offend you but I didn't cuss you out or something. I'm truly Sorry
[Touch HD Android Development] DanRo80:
Seriously, why are you guys so offended over this. Do you really have to be mean? I only said what my experience was with it. I thought that was how things improve.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
It's main because a great deal of time seems to get wasted on trying to help folks out, but just reading back a few posts and you'll see that countless times folks have installed on top of a previous Android build, and had problems, or they've installed a HD2 (even though this is a HD thread), or they've said "the battery doesn't seem to last long" (when it's clearly documented and known throughout the XDAndroid community that this is the case).

It all adds up to a lot of frustration.

So, when you arrive and claim it's killed your WinMo, it's hard to believe...

Quite often, someone's just flashed a new ROM (folks on here are sometimes doing it a couple of times per week), then install lots of WinMo utils, then try out Android and something breaks... and the immediate assumption is that Android caused it... even when Android makes a real point of going nowhere near WinMo.

The only items that are touched by the Cab are a) A shortcut to Android (Haret.exe) and a registry entry to use hires icon in WM6.5.

And, if after a hard reset the problem still exists, it gets even harder to believe it's Android and more likely to be the ROM.

Some users might say "I installed this, and something seemed to go wrong, can you help me figure what I'm doing wrong?" then you'd probably get some good responses from folks, but you started out with the premise "this thing screwed my phone".

There's a chance it did.... a very slim chance (never say never), but WinMo devices are much more predictable than PC's... and with so many other users managing to get it running easily (then discovering the usual Android / Kernel bugs), the odds seriously point to some other issue outside of Android.

99.9% of issues with Android lie in the following:

- Troublesome after installing over a previous release / leftovers from other Android installation.

- Doesn't boot into Android, or hangs during boot (of Android, not WinMo)

- Crashes when running Android

- Sound / WiFi / 3G Connection not working on a particular device type

I have yet to discover a genuine case of 'wrecked my WinMo' (with or without hard reset).

If you tell me your device (hopefully HD) and your ROM / Radio, and if you installed the CAB or ZIP, I will flash my own device to the same and test....
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Don't worry it's definitely not your phone...it's Android simply not handling sound properly for your device.

I'm waiting for some kernel and system updates before I do new release, hopefully should fix the issue....

Try having a look at the touch pro forum (there might be a fix there)... I'll also take a look when I get some free time. I think there are a few touch pro users who have it working ok, so have hope!...
[Touch HD Android Development] DanRo80:
I installed onto HD T8282

Energy.BLACKSTONE.23563.Sense2.5.Apr.23.7z

1. 10.25.25 / 52.57.25.30U

CAB file

Thank You very much. I'm sorry if I came across the wrong way at first.
[Touch HD Android Development] raymedia:
awesome... thanks for the quick response. :) i'll do more search on the touch pro forum.. but if you do beat me, pls let me know :) again, thank you.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Great, I will look at this later today... I'm in the UK, so ahead of you...

Sadly I have real work to do too... so don't expect anything until much later today (your evening)

I should at least be able to see what you're seeing (or not)
[Touch HD Android Development] cr4zy.b0y:
:D

a new release maybe :D ????? i hardly wait for battery fix and contacts importer to work :) .... it would be quite nice .... are there things we cand do about battery life :confused:
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Sadly the battery life issue has been around a LONG time... it is being worked on, but it's proving to be one of the most difficult areas... most due to lack of documentation on HTC devices and how WinMo's power management is working under the hood (so that Android can try to behave similarly).

In terms of doing things to improve battery life...

Keep WiFi to a bare minimum.... WiFi is the single worst culprit for battery use on XDAndroid.

Keep your backlight on for no longer than is necessary. (under the display settings, you can choose how long the screen should stay on for)

Disable 3G if you really don't need it. For the majority of weather updates and other nice little 'pull data' type apps... 2.5G (GPRS) is fine

Avoid too many "pull data" widgets / apps. They drain the battery by initiating radio comms / data sessions.

Some have suggested disabling the GPS switch (even though GPS isn't working on XDAndroid just now, disable it anyway.... and it should also disable LBS (location based services / My Location / Latitude etc)

There's nothing else that springs to mind right now.... I get around 1 day usage without WiFi. With WiFi, I get maybe 2 hours :-(

As for new releases, I basically wait for anything significant to improve before making a release. Some weeks things are hectic, some weeks they aren't.

I generally test out the 'hot off the press' stuff, and if it's just too buggy, I don't release...

Sadly, I can't test every device and every configuration. I have a 4 HD's and many Diamonds (long story), and a whole bunch of older HTC devices... but I rely on other people to spot issues on other phones.

The reality is, the kernel guys can fix 10 bugs, and add 10 new features, but they can also introduce 5 new issues... which might appear on any device. So for most guys, they will say "hey, this is an improved new release", but a few will say "it used to work, and now it doesn't"... Not a lot I can do about that... it's just the nature of the beast *sigh*
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
OK, installed the ROM, installed the Cab.... voila...it worked. No problem detected.

No apps installed (just straight ROM flash, and then install the cab) (choosing HD from the cab menu, and NOT the overclocked option)

I'll also have a little play with the NRG Rom, since I'm a Miri use usually (not too keen on the customisation done on NRG Roms, but will try it for a few days).

Whatever problem you had / still have, it's not Android.

Always worth keeping a copy blacimg.nbh on your SD card to allow you to reflash in an emergency away from your PC... I keep 3 or 4 on mine, so I can choose what to reflash to.

So, can you describe precisely how your ROM was screwed?... in what way was the screen garbled? what happened after a hard reset? How did you recover (if at all) ?
[Touch HD Android Development] HD69:
Newbies keen to learn :)

Always worth keeping a copy blacimg.nbh on your SD card to allow you to reflash in an emergency away from your PC... I keep 3 or 4 on mine, so I can choose what to reflash to.

Hi TheBrilliantMistake and other Pros.. I am a newbie and would like to ask for some tips from you guys.. Just wondering how do i reflash my blackstone when i am away from pc.. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.. thanx in advance. :)
[Touch HD Android Development] DanRo80:
* Find the ROM image you would like to use, normally named RUU_Signed.nbh, and rename it to "BLACIMG.nbh"

* Copy BLACIMG.NBH into the root dir of your Storage Card. (I use a 1GB card, smaller the better)

* Be certain to have at least 30% of charge.

* Turn off your device by using the Power Button

* If you use HardSPL: Go to bootloader mode. Push and hold Vol Down + press Power button. The device will display a message and offer you to flash.

* If you use USPL: Remove your microSD card first to prevent starting the flash, then go into bootloader mode. When in bootloader mode insert the card and follow the instructions on the USPL page to start USPL. The device will restart into USPL and will now present you the message to flash.

* As soon as presented the message, push Power button to start flashing or Volume Down button to cancel.

* The whole procedure will take about 3 minutes. After you finish and see the relative message, hard reset your device twice, you are ready.

* DISCLAIMER- Xda-developers community takes no responsibility for any conflict, fault, or damage caused by this flashing procedure. No warranties of any kind are given.
[Touch HD Android Development] DanRo80:
I wanted to flash the ROM again but the battery was to low to safely do so. Well maybe I can give it another try again and import my contacts from the sd card. The screens in WM became cut off on the screen that shows once it finds a WIFI spot and wouldn't show what I would type for the network key, the HTC Home tabs shifted down so that half as showing and Dialer shifted up cutting off the top back arrow. The WM OS started to also freeze. I got everything back to normal after a re-flash. All long to you generally get to go on a charge? Thank you for the time that you put into this.
[Touch HD Android Development] lebmb:
did u read what i wrote ? where was the mean part, sarcastic is what i was going for :) lol
[Touch HD Android Development] DanRo80:
That was just the vibe I got from the both of you, BUT it was only a misunderstanding.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
You can download one of the many ROMs in the Windows Rom section for Blackstone. You need to learn how to set up your device to flash first though...

Once you know how to flash and your device is capable of being flashed, you can place a copy of the flash file (ends in ".nbh") to the ROOT of your SD card and name it blackimg.nbh

To flash your phone, turn it off completely, then hold the volume down button whilst powering on. The device will enter a special ROM loading mode and search for the blackimg.nbh file. Once this mode is entered, release the volume down button, and jut follow the onscreen instructions. It is much faster than flashing via PC (takes about 2 minutes).

Remember, flashing will lose ALL your data on the phone (but not the SD card)
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Oops, I see this was already answered....

Both instructions are the same.... easy to follow and understand.

Let us know how you get on.
[Touch HD Android Development] itetcboo:
I have read your posts about battery life and it's the prior problem I have to maintain a "production" system. I must maintain 3G or GPRS enabled and running in order to have the office mail updated, maybe this is that is devouring battery. After a few hours in standby mode, my HD doesn't wake up again, maybe it hangs, or maybe thinks has no battery. I'm gonna try to change the inet access from 3G to GPRS as you says.

As a temporary fix for the battery metter problem, ¿may be any way to tell the xdandroid the battery is allways full?

If androids runs over a linux system, maybe will be a way, via crontab or anything like that for write the file in /proc to say the system the battery is full, or maybe disable the battery metter. This is just an supposition, excuse me if I'm saying any barbarity.

Sorry for my english, and as always, GREAT WORK!
[Touch HD Android Development] itetcboo:
Hi again, I have tried to set only 2G networks, but it appears disabled and I can't check it. If I select manually my operator's network, when go back to the screen showing "use only 2G networks" I can activate this option, but if I leave settings screen and then re-enter into the screen, the option to use only 2G networks is again disabled not allowing to check it.
[Touch HD Android Development] waterproof125:
3banana notes

A little bit ago I was running Android 2.0.1 but have recently switched over to 2.1 and now to 2.1c from here. But since moving on up I haven't been able to find some apps in the market and I've come to the conclusion its probably due to the new version that hasn't been signed by google yet (right?).

I only need one app and was hoping someone could help me out, I need the newer 3banana notes app. I was able to find v1.15 on some chinese site on google but cannot find a way to get the newer version. If anyone has some insight (or the .apk :) ) I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks guys and ps. you've done brilliant work brilliantmistake! cheers to you and everyone else working on this

pps. is there any way to edit the smileys to remove their noses? it looks great on my end but on the receiving end it looks dumb if they don't have android.