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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I do not plan to release a version with Sense 2.1. If you're heading for real speed I suggest that you try my Oldschool ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iris_aim:
aye aye commander

am lovin oldschool :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Ach. I thought you wrote in my S2 thread.

I have such a Hybrid done WM6.1. + Sense 2.1. But it has got permanent not fixable issues.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BeEazy10:
hmmm i did that but it didnt work... i will check for an updated carries cab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nblakqori:
wow

i am impressed with the speed and flow, very nice.

now my tp2 is usable.

thank you sir,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GermanGuy:
Does this ROM support bluetooth dialing (e.g activate VoiceCommand from bluetooth handset like the original TMOUS 6.1ROM)?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Yes, it does. I tested it with my HTC BH M300.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DrzNight:
Umm for some reason when I go on to create a new account in the email, when I press next it says wlmLauncher cannot be opened...anyone else getting this?

Edit: Nvm seems to be because its a windows live account and the rom doesn't come with it pre-installed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Yes, that's true. wlmLauncher is a part of Windows Live.

If you need this, just ask - I'll include it in the 1.1 version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
I need it as well. Can you included it in Old School 1.2??? LOVE your ROM!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I thought you may download it from the MS Marketplace 0.o That's why I deleted it from my rom, the version that comes with WM6.1. is a "bit" antique, so probably you're overwriting it anyway.

But if you want it back, it's no problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Is there a way you can include the latest version cooked onto the ROM? Otherwise I'll just download it myself. Besides, I'm hoping 1.2 comes out with maybe some new features or somehow with more available RAM. Best ROM out for the TP2 in my opinion.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Sure, I'll check the latest Windows Live for WM!

Heh, I like the Oldschool ROM too, but I don't think it's the best out there. Hybrids would be perfect, but HTC messed so much with the drivers and compatibility X_X I'm so pissed on this :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bombardierq400:
Is there no location service on this ROM? When I update the weather, my town does not show up and it also does not show in the time settings.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
This is NOT Sense UI...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HRQ.SLV:
Are you giving another shot at the Hybrids?

I sure hope so. :D

Again, congrats on a great work!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] GermanGuy:
That is awesome news. I wonder however whether it will work with other bluetooth headsets as well. Did you modify the bluetooth stack? I have never been able to initiate bluetooth dialing on stock-based 6.1 Rhodium ROMs except the T-mobile US 6.1 version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Hey Jacko, I flashed your OldSchool ROM a couple hours ago and I absolutely love it. However, the 3.xx.xx.30 radio absolutely sucks in Little Rock, Arkansas USA. Where I was getting 4 bars of HSDPA I was getting 1-2, and 3 instead of 4 bars of EDGE. If you update the oldschool ROM, can you use the rilphone.dll for the 4.49.25.77 or .91 radio? .77 works best here.

Thanks for the fantastic ROM; I'm a free RAM freak and this certainly fits the bill.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
I wonder what do I have to do to run it with my Nokia BH-600. I works really well with TP2, and the redial function works fine, but the function of voice command works strange - it switches off the use of the headsed during conversation. I mean there is a headsed connection symbol in the taskbar, but the dialer doesn't forward the sound to the headset. I have to reconnect the BH-600 to use it normally again.

It's strange because it worked well on Omnia stock ROM... ;) Well, probably it's a matter of some drivers...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
They WOULD be perfect, but they're impossible to get... Too much important issues I got. Starting with the freezing cloak and ending with a poor battery life.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Hmm, so if you where not able to use it on stock HTC WM6.1. so you won't be able to use it on Jackos too. I did not modify the bluetooth stack.

Maybe you're doing something wrong, because I have used MS VC from the beginning with stock WM6.1. and a lot of other roms and they all worked fine? :confused: OK, it could be better, but it did it's job.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
If you can sacrifice battery life for a better signal reception, just use one of the newer radios. Remember to hardreset after a radio rom change.

I won't include the latest rilphone.dll because it isn't fully capable with WM6.1. and it causes a poor battery life. One of the main reasons why Hybrids where abandoned.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I'm not an expert, so I can't help you. Maybe Samsung does use different bluetooth stack. Currently there are two main stacks: Microsoft and Widcomm. They're different in many cases. For example you can use a bluetooth mouse with Microsoft stack, but the Widcomm isn't capable of that.

I tried to change a bluetooth stack (from Widcomm to MS) in a rom years ago, but I never managed to get this to work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Is it necessary to HR after a radio flash? I started flashing back when the Wizard was the cream of the crop, never had an issue flashing radios without HRing. If I do need to, would it hurt to use Resco Backup to backup everything? I'm loathe to set up everything twice in one day.

Also, what's RAM utilization like in your S2 ROM with Sense disabled? Not percentage used, free megabytes plz. Also, how does it compare with OldSchool in terms of stability?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Yes, I recommend that you do a hard reset after a radio change. A lot of chiefs say it's not needed, but for my personal experience this actually DOES matter. I had strange problems with pairing bluetooth headsets, sms not working at all, broken calls etc. etc. I pretty sure this was due to the radio rom change. Maybe I had this because I switched between 3.xx.xx.xx and 4.xx.xx.xx, but that's highly possible that it does malfunction some other things that aren't so clearly visible.

Once I did a full backup with Spb Backup, changed radio, did a HR and restored anything. I'm not sure, but I think this solved the issues. However I wasn't really satisfied with the reliability, so I did a HR once again later.

But this is just my experience and a lot of chiefs will probably disagree with that. Maybe I'm just a paranoiac. I suggest that you try this on your own. If you will experience some issues with the radio, just do a HR and restore from a backup copy. If this doesn't help, you can always HR and start from the beginning.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
OK, so I'm using v1.1 right now (consider this as a beta rom). On the boot, without Sense the RAM was about 130MB. After some days of usage I had about 85MB RAM left (without Sense of course).

I really dislike to write about the ram and speed of any ROM, because this highly depends on how you're using it. So this is not measurable at all!

For example, check the ram before and after putting some pictures on the SD. When you're playing with the Sense photos tab you will notice a 5MB higher RAM usage just after clicking on the photos tab :eek: Same goes for the WM6.5. start menu or lockscreen. So just some "tweaks" and you will get 10 MB more. Not even to mention the pagepool settings X_x

EDIT: About stability, I'm using the 21905 build (changed from 21887) and I don't see any difference comparing to Oldschool. The device freezes sometimes, but after some seconds it's working again. No SoD's or other total freezes for me (such freezes when you need to reset the device with your stylus).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oajungen:
Do you have plans to update the Oldschool ROM in a short while? Just asking because if not I am planning to start using the current version. Thank you for letting me know.... hopefully :-).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
No, actually I'm focused on the S2 series. The Oldschool is stable and pretty good done, so I'm not "forced" to upgrade it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
No upgrade? =*(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I'll upgrade my Oldschool roms too. I just don't want to reflash my device now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BeEazy10:
:) blah that out

One Question.

What Is "Beam" thats located in Comm Manager
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Use search. This was explained (partially) already.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BeEazy10:
I search before i post nobody know exactly what it do. That why i asked again to see if someone found out what it exactly do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
It turns off IRDA. I have tested it on ASUS A639 and noticed that I can't receive any files after I turned it off.

Edit: It should work for Bluetooth OBEX inbox too, but TP2 has a Widcomm bluetooth stack and I think that's not compatible.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BeEazy10:
So that why I couldn't send file from my pc to my phone. Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
LOL, I where sure that someone wrote that it doesn't work for the Rhodium at all :confused:

Thanks for the research :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
An updated Oldschool ROM is now available for speed addicted users to download. As always, Jackos is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HRQ.SLV:
Are you trying to get a job working for HTC? ;)

I've never seen anyone achive such great results at ROM cooking!

I hope you finish your school soon, and with good grades!

You'll become a great professional if you continue this way!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
OMG Thank you!! Downloading 1.2 now! Best TP2 ROM out!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Ahaha, my text was ironic to what HTC is doing ;D The don't give a **** off user experience. 3 ROM releases by now and all crap X_X

Actually I would be glad to work at HTC. I would use the possibility to kick apple fan boys asses by developing something innovative.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HRQ.SLV:
Man, I love to hear people talk like that! :D

I've showed your signature to my wife (she's a WM freak also), the one you had about folders, and we took a good laugh about it!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Ahahahaha, just gimme time :D I'll caught her later :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nblakqori:
hi, is anyone having sudden freezes, ex. sometimes when i close the file explorer from taskmanager, it just freezes and have to softreset.

it happened 2 times i 30 min.

anyways thanks for the speedy rom, lovin it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Does someone else confirm this? Maybe it's because of the changed processor instruction set.

@nblakqori, do you use bluetooth activesync connection?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nblakqori:
hi, thanks for the fast reply,

and no, i dont use bluetooth sync, now i changed it at the task manager to permanently close with x, if it happens again i will report back, other than that, its perfect,

thanks

edit:

it just happened again, as i was closing file explorer, waited it for 5 min to come back, but it didnt. i will uninstall fextention 2.x and see what happens, maybe it is extensions fault.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BeEazy10:
its somthing you install, i haven't experience any freeze yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ravicai:
Good gravy, shouldn't this info be on the first post, or the title even?

Something like 'GSM ONLY' would have saved me a lot of time :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
CDMA rom development has his own section? :confused: It's obvious that a GSM rom won't fit a CDMA device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ravicai:
It does, but this forum is only labeled 'Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development'. No mention of GSM. Whereas the CDMA forum title doesn't mention ROM development, just 'discussion'.

I guess it's more of a labeling issue with the forums. A little misleading to casual modders like me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TR_Maniac:
I've the same problem in Jockos latest S2 rom (using the full version). It freezes when closing file explorer with the x button on homescreen (task manager). I only installed ExtendedFileExplorer cab. Don't know if that's the problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TR_Maniac:
Question: Does this rom have kinetic scrolling in menu's etc.? Or is this a feature for only WM 6.5 roms?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nileshvedi:
Msging Bug/Issue: Sender Name Does Not Auto-complete

Hey Jackos,

Flashed your updated v1.2 Oldschool ROM yesterday, running smooth & perfect except one thing....

When I type contact name in SMS Sender, it does not automatically fill in the contact name/no.

Don't know whether anyone else is facing this.

Regards,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iris_aim:
that come at the bottom of screen a little odd location for selection(look above the "softkeys" at bottom taskbar while filling in the contact

cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BeEazy10:
Few Problem

I Tried to open Sharepoint and get an error saying "Spmc is not a valid pocket pc application" Same with power point. (not really a big going to try in install microsoft 2010 over to see if that would fix that problem)

Second problem is When opening up Text Input Settings i cant see half of the setting.

Someone already mention the SMS auto fill problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
OK, I understand you now. I'll change the threads name.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I'll look at it ASAP.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Sure, I'll fix this when I will be at home.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nblakqori:
hey jackosh,

i guess the problem with file explorer freezing was at the fextention 2.x.

after i uninstalled it, i have 0 problems with the rom.

a small visual thing thou, comm manager in landscape doesnt show completely (i cant see 3g-gsm switch).

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BeEazy10:
:D thanks other then those little thing everything fine
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Jacko's old school ROM has bugs? That's a first....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rpowell:
Interested in trying this ROM. What messaging does it use? Really prefer arcsoft over htc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] v1xz:
Hi Jacko's,

Im new to TP2 and have decided to use your ROM as it looks the easiest out of all which is available. Im just having a little bit of trouble trying to send MMS. Ive tried all settings but to no avail. Im on O2 Contract in UK if you have any methods. Ive been on Filesave.com and think the settings on the site are old and need updating.

Once again thank you for your efforts with this ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I'll check it. Probably a scroll package issue.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
It has got ArcSoft. If we talk about MMS ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
MMSes have to work, because I tested them just before releasing this rom (part of my research work for S2 series xD). I think that the communication setup should configure your mms settings right.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
An updated version is available. Bugfix release, sorry for the inconvenience.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nileshvedi:
Hey Jackos,

I know you are busy.... pls answer whenever you have time...

Does this (1.2a) release also fix the SMS sender issue...

Also, I am having a problem extracting the files from the 1.2a release also fix the SMS sender autocomplete issue?

I am unable to extract the files from the 7z.... shows some error while extracting... Although downloading again now

Thanks

EXTRACTED..... FLASHING NOW, will revert ASAP

Thanks again for the response & of course the Cool ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Yes it does. It was bugged because of the IME.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] v1xz:
The problem i have is that it does actually try to send the mms, it gets to 99% and when you think all is good it comes back saying unable to send, saved in draft.

Is there something i am doing wrong? Ive checked the Communication setup and reapplied it a few times. Same thing
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Update the Connection Setup database.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] v1xz:
Settings>Personal>Rhodium>Menu>PushInternet Engine

Everytime i go to turn off pushinternet engine the program shuts down with error message. I have found a CAB file which works and it speeds up this ROM even faster. Just thought i'd mention it if you want to place this CAB in your recommendations dude.

Here is The Link

Connection Setup isnt updating, any suggestion on how to? Really want MMS working on this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Why it isn't updating? It has to.

The push internet engine is disabled by default. The Rhodium Settings Tool isn't compatible with this push internet engine I implemented. This was answered million times, please refrain from posting before searching/reading the thread first.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] v1xz:
Just trying to help, im sure when people are flashing your rom they want it to be as fast as possible. When i first flashed it, it was sticking in places and sometimes i had to press a button twice. As you say it is disabled as defualt but the Rhodium software says differently. It was on the ON position. Maybe you want to place a message or something at the start of your thread when people are downloading ROM. Any how if you dont like my suggestions then please accept my apology and delete post.

As for the Connection Setup, it has the most upto date information. I just cant think why it doesnt send MMS messages. Any other suggestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
No problem man :)

I'm sorry that I can't help you with the MMS. Works for me "out of the box".
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] v1xz:
Great!

Thank you for your help sir
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdgay22:
is it possible for u to put sense 2.1 on this.. that would make it perfect.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
... Actually I did.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
You did? You mean Jackos hybrid v6 or is there something we don't yet know about? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Heh Scrobel, you should know that it is impossible to make a stable (normally working) Hybrid... Stupid HTC drivers X_X
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdgay22:
why does it not have the weather on the front
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Yep, that's what I learned from your thread and my own experience, but your last post caused some doubts. Oldschool does not have the Sense 2.1, so it had to be something else ;)

On the other hand yet 3 weeks ago I thought it is impossible to make a really fast & stable WM6.5 + Sense 2.5 without any memory leak.... ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdgay22:
i was talkin about the weather on the front with the new tabs
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdgay22:
have u found one with no memory leak
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Hell yeah :) Please look at my sig :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jdgay22:
is the htc messenger client work fast on that rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Please go to the thread and read for yourself (a couple of the last pages will be enough) :) Mine works as fast as in the Oldschool :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nileshvedi:
Works Great

Hey Jackos,

This ROM is now officially the greatest & best(est) & of course the fastest the TP2 must have ever encountered....

Love it, works great even with my Mobile Shell 3.5.5.... Just posting a Screen Shot (Pls don't mind)

Thank you for the "GREAT(EST)" ROM

Regards :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mionica:
If you think this ROM is fast, try changing the pagepool size before flashing to 20MB. You can afford that, since this offers heaps of free RAM anyway - then you'll see fast. As in, unbelievably fast.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] xefe:
amazing rom, tried like 5 roms and your S2 rom but this one beats them all, incredibly fast and the battery life is amazing, really increased by a lot. Is there any way to add a security app to track the phone in case someone steals it? since usually they reset all data on phone, if its cooked on rom it will be there after hard reset.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I do NOT recommend setting the pagepool to a higher value then 14MB. If you're not satisfied with the PP I suggest that you start with dynamic PP.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Thanks.

I use Lookout Mobile Security.