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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
I already fixed couple things:

- improved performance of launcher dropdown

- launcher window position was messed up on some resolutions

- gestures can be turned on/off and it's possible to launch custom cmds

- rotate screen can also be called from launcher

- possible to launch htc notification through gesture or from launcher

I'm still not satisfied with the gesture recognition. it works fine on Omnia II but I have troubles on my Diamond 2. I want to make this FINALLY alright for the next release, and I don't have time during this weekend, so you guys have to wait few more days...

But enough for today. Now it's already 2am and I have to get up early in the morning!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] appelflap:
Can't you upload the fixed version as a pre-release with gestures disabled and let us just wait for the fixed gesture feature? It sounds really great what you've fixed and added. Take the time with the gesture feature. I mean this is really revolutionairy hot stuff, you know.

Anyway, thanks man, keep up the good work!

EDIT: just a suggestion (I appreciate your hard work): can you add the commands "go to next/previous app" as possible commands to assign to the gestures?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nabcha:
Intact notification trigger

Hi RAMMANN.

Nice work, no doubt. Is it feasible that your taskbar launcher only affects the 50% left side of the taskbar as a trigger and leave Notification trigger alive. In a way like Arkswitch. ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
Alright. I will upload the new version tonight (it'll probably be late again *ggg*).... with gestures working or not. The problem with the gestures is the sensitivity over the taskbar window. You also have to tolerate movement out of the taskbar window because otherwise you are unable to use it on small screens. But then you also have to watch out to not be too responsive (see previous issues)

This actually is a VERY GOOD idea. I'll consider it for my "release plan" ;)

@Nabcha this is already planned for later versions too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
I forgot to mention....

one of the reasons why I wrote this tool is the problem that when hiting the taskbar you never knew whether HTC Notification was launched or the horrible WM 6.5.x slidebar or whatever that is. At least that happened on my Diamond 2. So in upcoming versions I will definitely NOT ignore parts of the taskbar (like Arkswitch) and only focus on left part or right part of taskbar. I will always block the whole taskbar!!! BUT it will be possible to say WHAT WILL REALLY HAPPEN when you hit a certain range. Taskbar will probably be split up in 3 parts (left, middle, right) and you can tell for each one what will happen, i.e. HTC Notification, launch a special program, show taskbar launcher popup etc.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
task manager

a bunch of people also have asked to include a task manager. This will also happen!!! But unfortunately it will take a little time until this is done.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Could you place the option to set the vertical position of the Launcher (so we can correct the little problem of half overlapping the windows taskbar, when using on a WM6.5 WVGA screen)?

Thanks!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
will most likely not happen in new version anymore. see previous messages when I wrote about fixed issues:

- launcher window position was messed up on some resolutions
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Thanks, I will be waiting for your new release!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scilor:
Looks fine :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ukintel:
Hi, Thanks for this fantastic app.

I seem to be having trouble skinning the files, will you be adding alpha png support?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
beta 0.3 is finished!! I hope the gestures are working fine on every device now!

I think I had something going on with transparency, which is now changed in beta 0.3 Please test again with the new version. There's now also more images to skin! ;) If results are still bad with the new version then please upload one of the PNGs you are using and I'm trying to work on a solution.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bugsykoosh:
Hey you got a way to call the HTC Notifications - SWEET!:) I like the improvements. The 'rotate' button is interesting - it takes you in a circle if you keep going...not sure why you want a screen upside down but I guess that's for people to decide:) Is there a way to just make it toggle 90 degree (clockwise or countrclockwise) and then reverse it? It's probably more useful that way. I like the project though. Thanks again.

By the way, I notice that I can still use Quick Menu with this enabled. The key is to press and hold in the taskbar where the quickmenu arros is (top left corner) and then you'll be able to get the arrow to stay there. After that if you press anywehre in the taskbar you get Task Bar Launcher, but if you press and hold for a second over the quickmenu icon you can still launch it...best of both worlds sort of thing:) The only reaons I like quick menu is because I like to be able to see recent programs:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
About the rotation: well, I had just implemented the rotate left/right commands because I thought it's the most comfortable/flexible way to rotate when using the gestures. The Rotate launch icon is just calling the Rotate right command. I kind of added it just for demonstration but you are right, actually it doesn't really make sense to rotate all around the circle. I can add an AutoRotate command that will only switch from portrait to landscape and back.

About the QuickMenu: I never used the application, but probably it's not directly hooking the task bar but using another way for activation (maybe adding a little window on top or something?) - so if you're able to launch both of them, that's just fine!

This recent programs thing was already mentioned before. if I figured out how it's working then I can also add it for a future release ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
03 beta, is working very good on my HD.

The only problem I found is that when I press the side volume buttons the taskbar launcher comes insteed the htc volume control.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
that's weird! what is htc volume doing with my taskbar????

I tried to reproduce it on a couple devices and it also happens on Touch Diamond. It doesn't happen on other devices because I got S2U installed which comes with its own volume control. I try to fix the issue asap.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
I also want to ask you if it is possible to use a transparent background (I made one with photoshop but it shows white in taskbar).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
you mean taskbar or the taskbar launcher window?

I just looked at imported functions of HTC Volume Control DLL and maybe the thing is firing a tap event in status bar. I guess tonight I have to debug and find out how to filter it out.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
The taskbar launcher window to be transparent.

Thank you for working on it! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
I'll look into this as well...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Sorry, I found another problem (it was in 02beta too).

If I manually stop the taskbar launcher (press and hold on the taskbar launcher window and select "Stop Taskbar launcher"), the phone application (mscprog.exe) stops working anymore and the only way to make it work again, is to soft reset my device.:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
can you tell me what exactly is happening? is the phone freezing? or only the phone application crashing and remaining system is running? what ROM do you have?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Only the phone application is crashing, the remaining system is running properly.

I check using MemMaid the 'running processes' and I see that cprog.exe (the phone application), has been disappeared. Also, the phone function of the HD stops working.

The 'phone freezing' is not happening all the times I stop taskbar launcher.:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dande:
On Omnia II works fine.

Now it's easier to click the taskbar to close it.

Thank you very much
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Hulzer:
I can also confirm that the phone app crashes when closing taskbar launcher.

Device: Touch HD

ROM: WM6.1 21054.1.6.5 duttys
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] appelflap:
Hi RAMMANN,

The taskbar launcher is getting really great. I love it! No problems whatsoever. Everything is working just fine.

I really love the gestures. You implemented this feature really good. No weird behavior, it goes very naturaly.

I even love this gesture thing so much that I was wondering if you can't implement more gesture alternatives.

I'm using my phone with my right hand and making the gesture from the middle of taskbar to right goes very naturaly with one hand. Now, i'm wondering if you can't implement a opposite gesture: one that is going from the right corner to the middle (see picture). That way I have two gestures at my disposal when I use the phone one handed with my right hand. (The gesture from the middle to the left is just to far away for my short hand :) )

Thanks, keep up the good work! Count on a donation from me for the release version. (BTW I like the idea that you're going to add a taskmanager to this launcher. I hope you make it that way that the running programs are directly accessible when you launch the taskbar launcher)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
I found your application a few days ago and tested it (v0.2) and I loved it. I see that you have a new update and definitely I'm going to try it.

On v0.2, I actually modified and added a few other applications and it worked very well for me, except that I don't have the right png file for the applications. Was wondering if you are able to help with the icons for the following applications:

a. Activesync

b. Calculator

c. Email

d. Text

e. Comm manager

f. Shutdown

I tried to look for pngs for the above but could not find the default icons for the first 5 listed above. Managed to find a padlock png for the last item.

If you could consider to add the above to your cab, it would be great. Thanks for this great app.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] appelflap:
To create icons is actually very easy. Find a nice transparant icon set. Open the icon you want with Paint, substitute the transparant color with black, copy it and paste it over one of the icons that are provided with the taskbar launcher. (oh yes and for the selected icons make a "negative" of the icon. Something that can be done with paint for windows xt)

(That said, things would be a lot more nice and easier if one could use transparant icons for the taskbar launcher)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
Found the pngs that I needed. Going to give a go with v3 and put in the pngs to good use.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Hi RAMMANN,

Do you have any news regarding the mentioned problems?:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Livven:
Wow, great app, very useful for me as I find the default taskbar dropdown useless and annoying.

One suggestion: Could you emulate the Start and Close buttons by tapping on the left and right of the taskbar, respectively, so you have these functions even when an app disables the standard bottom bar? That would be very appreciated :).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
sorry for lack of commitment to this thread during last two days but I've been ill. Whatever, I'll release a new version in the weekend. New features and also some bug fixes or at least work arounds.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
I am sorry to hear that you are ill, my wishes for you to get better.

Thanks for the upcoming release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
here we go! BETA 0.4 is up now!

The phone freeze problem is not reproducible on any of my devices. I changed something but not sure if the issue is fixed. If the problem is still existing then I can offer the following workaround: don't use "Stop Taskbar launcher" anymore. Instead use "Deactive Taskbar launcher". It will keep Taskbar Launcher attached to the taskbar but will restore all functionality as usual. If you later want to activate it again then use the Configuration tool, or directly set [General] Active=1 in the ini file.

HTC Volume Control problem. Reproducible on HTC Touch Diamond and also fixed on this device. But I'm not sure if it is fixed for all screen resolutions. If the problem still persists then please send me a log file.

Log file: If you have problems with any of the two issues (phone freeze or HTC volume) then you can also create a log file. Therefore open tbl.ini and add the following lines:

[Debug]

LogFile = 1

LogLevel = 16

Then restart Taskbar launcher (or soft reset) and after reproducing the error please send me contents of file \tbllog.txt as PM or attach it in this thread.

There's a couple more new features, just check out first post. I hope I didn't forget to mention anything. Otherwise just ask if something is unclear.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ai6908:
WOW! Excellent tool my friend...:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Indiant:
Great work!

Maybe in the future releases, could you develop the configuralable activation field like "ArkSwitch" has?

like this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=618300
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
I'm not sure if that's necessary anymore since taskbar is already divided into three parts, with each one customizable. I don't think it's very "catchy" to add more random launch fields.

Another note about 0.4 beta: You see I have added a little configuration tool. This will grow during the next couple releases in a wizard like style. Whatever..... What I want to say: a shortcut to this app is already in Start menu / Programs location but unfortunately I don't have a icon. I'm also pretty stupid at graphics (just look at the icons) so maybe someone wants to do a nice icon for Taskbar Launcher??? I'm open for suggestions!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Perfect!!!

HTC Volume control is working again, using side buttons!

Since now I tested stopping launcher and the phone didn't freeze!!

If I notice something I will post it.

Thank you!!!

P.S. When I return home, I will post my suggestion for icon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
WOW! That's actually good news! I had accidently blocked the timer messages of the taskbar in 0.3 (and maybe also 0.2) - it's possible they were responsible for the phone app freezing? At least I hope so!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Here is my suggestion...;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dande:
Ramman it works just fine in Omnia 2.

I don't understand why should one like to have a link of Start on top right side (once again).

I have even changed the launcher on the right side where is the clock so I can easily launch it and it's where naturally human hands can easily touch.

Keep it simple and light.

Thank you very much. It's very nice and useful.

Take care
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sallcho:
Is there a way to change the pressing behaviour? As far as I understand, the press is successful after releasing the finger. Is it possible to register a press ON click and not ON RELEASING the finger? Would be cool because you would be able to use taskbar like in android, without aiming you slide your finger from top phone down the screen and not aiming for couple of pixels to click.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
In the first version I actually had the launcher window pop up ON click. But then I implemented the finger gestures, which made it impossible to launch the popup on click. So it NEEDS to be launched ON RELEASING.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daemons:
Hi,

Well, this looks very interesting app....i just imagine if this cold be like ina android style app..

when we press taskbar, we get a screen with running apps, and notifications, customizable program starts??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
here's a little (raw) appetizer for the upcoming beta 0.5

now the 3 launch areas in the task bar suddenly make even more sense right? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
When is beta 0.5 coming? I had added up to 20 applications to 0.4 beta and it is fantastic. Love your application. Looks like I have work to be done to bring the 20 applications to beta 5 soon. Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
I don't know. Probably next week. I want to add some more features not only the new taskbar design.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
sorry this is not really what I'm looking for. Looks like a PC screen. so if there are more suggestions I'll be happy to see them ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Livven:
Wow, the preview looks awesome. Great work and thanks to incorporate part of my suggestions ;).

Someone asked why it was necessary to launch the Start menu with a command: Usually it's non-sense, yes, but there are some (excellent) apps like iAgenda etc. which disable the default toolbar so you can't access the Start and Close buttons. So, I still hope you could add an option to emulate the Close button in your next version as well :).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
Putting a close button over taskbar wouldn't be a problem, but it doesn't fit my concept. If it helps I could add a launcher command "Close current application".

On the other side: I just checked out the iAgenda thread. In the screenshot it seems for me like iAgenda is a full screen application and it's drawing its own "iPhone" taskbar, like i.e. S2U is also doing. So it's not possible to access the original taskbar, on which I'm hooked into.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Livven:
It does have an option to show the default taskbar ;). Anyway, thanks very much for doing this!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Indiant:
Cool, so we can use the old icons, to mute the phone and so on.

Because that prog. do not disable the "top bar" and Samsung notifications, I use OMNIA.

About beta 0.5,

so you develop a new program? Taskmanager beta 0.5?

What about the Taskbar Launcher? It was a great program.

Mem and cpu use???? Why?

I liked your taskbar launcher, it was a simple BUT great and useable soft.

With one handycap, it disabled the whole taskbar.

Pls. develop in that way that not to disable the original icons.

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
You misunderstood something here.... I'm not doing a new task manager. I'm only continuing to build more features into taskbar launcher. And there's gonna be a lot. In the screenshot you see the original task manager from Microsoft. if it looks different than yours then it's probably because I'm using a different theme like you. ;) But in the screenshot you see a new feature of Taskbar launcher. Look at the taskbar. All the notification icons are gone. The current time is centered, on the left side you see a bar indicating signal strength, on the right you you see a bar indicating battery level. The icon on the very left will change depending on your current connection (GRPS, Bluetooth, ActiveSync, Wifi), and the icon on the very right shows battery state (again, but with detailed % value) or it shows another symbol when connected to power. So now you maybe know in what direction I want to go. Oh! if you don't like the new look of the taskbar: if will be customizable through ini file, so you can also keep the "old" look. I hope it's clear now ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mikevillarroel:
Nice app

Excellent application RAMMANN,

For now I'm using it only to launch xTask, but i know i will be using this more,just need to understand a little bit more the editing of the ini file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] joyride76:
link to volume.... General WM device no htc

Is not the exact 3d but very related :)

In the original WM taskbar there is the shortcut to the volume properties which is very useful to change system volume, speaker volume vibrate, ecc...

no one know how to link it in this new taskbar? what is the process to run?

Thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
@joyride: attachement for you, see PM
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yardi4life:
Thanks RAMMANN. I have not tried it yet but it sounds good.

Its a pity microsoft did not put this functionality in themselves.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] t0mmyr:
it would be great if instead this app would just let u switch between running apps in background, sort of like a fast task manager
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ghost_nup:
Look awesome!Will it be transparent?I like it,please keep working!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
Yes, I'm working on the transparency issues. Indeed, I'm currently working on a Taskmanager popup and I can no longer hide behind my own custom icons because I HAVE to properly show the icons that come with the applications!

For the people already waiting.... beta 0.5 will take some more days. But it will definitely be worth it:

- new taskbar look and feel (see previous screenshot)

- build in task manager (actually only a task switcher in the first release)

- switch to next/previous app through a simple gesture in taskbar
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] appelflap:
Cool!! Can't wait.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] joyride76:
@RAMMANN: attachement for you, see PM
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
little status update because the new release is still not finished. I have fully implemented a task manager, and also the ability to switch to next/previous process with a gesture over the taskbar. It needed quite some logic and fallbacks to recognize the running applications properly and assign the correct icon. The functionality to show the new taskbar style is working fine but I need to support ini file customization and add better graphics. I try to release it within this week. Oh and the transparency issues are still here. Sorry I'm a graphics nerd! But I promise it WILL be done... one day ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Livven:
If you need any graphics, tell me what you need and I'll do it :)!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
That's good news!

BTW, I just realise a problem. Maybe it is not a problem, but I don't know how the proper use.

When I have a calendar reminder occur, a notification icon appears on the taskbar. With TaskLauncher running, the only way for me to get to the notification icon is to stop TaskLauncher, which is rather inconvenient. It would be good if the middle section of the taskbar could be assigned to allow to click on the notifications. Pardon me if I have made a mistake on the above but please point me to the right way. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
Set to 2 and use $HTCNOTIFICATION is the solution. Sorry, should have read post #1 properly before posting.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
BETA 0.5 is ready!!! Enjoy!!!

@joyride76: I'm sorry but I can't really reproduce your problems and have no explanation or idea of what might be wrong!? :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] addicus:
Does this program close out programs on Beta 5?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
not yet, but it's already on to-do list, see 1st post. right now it's only a task switcher to be precise.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
Is there any chances in the 'ini' file? If not, I want to use back the version from 0.4 because I have many other short cuts inside.

Thanks for the new release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ramdroid77:
wait? what do you want to do? copy shortcuts from your 0.4 to 0.5? I'm confused.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
I had changed shortcuts to your 0.3, then 0.4 ini files, adding new shortcuts to new applications and icons. I now have a total of 20 shortcuts. So if the 0.5 ini file has new entries or change of formats, I will need to manually edit it before use.