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[Droid Eris Android Development] Sub-Standard:
Glad to hear you guys are getting closer. I don't have the know-how to help try to break in, but for me, and the rest like me, we can show our community support & dedication by making this the largest forum based phone bounty ever. I don't think we are far from that goal. Add $10 for me please. If everyone could just add $5.00 we will be there.

Good luck getting this job done, and great work so far! We are all indebted to your hard work.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ffej5647:
I have an idea! How about no more adding anything to the bounty. I think the bounty is high enough but I think if offers are still added then the devs finding a way to root will hold on to the directions how to do it until the bounty stops growing just to get more money. I am not here to shoot anyone down or make anyone look bad but I think its just an idea. The devs said they are close and even now that the source is out it will be a whole lot easier and quicker! I would say the bounty is high enough and to hold off but more so of maybe reward the devs with a little cash reward after they distribute it. Anyone agree?
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Nothing could be more untrue!!!

Our Developer site that we have Root up and running we will release Root and Tutorial over on our site and make it public.

This will happen whether or not 1 single cent is paid!

We will not hold onto anything!

This is a community, and we are merely members of a community trying to achieve a goal in a quiet place. The MOMENT this is achieved and we get everything together, IT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR NO COST TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.

I have to say that I am offended by your post.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
LMAO...

Damn fake !!CANDROID!! clones running arounf everywhere :)

Good to see ya hear man!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ffej5647:
i apologize acid i did not mean to offend you. I think I kind of sounded a little greedy but I did not mean to offend anyone. I am new to xda and I guess I kind of need to see how things are run more first before I make false statements like that. I apologize. :(
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
I understand, and I dont mean to jump all over you about it.

If you read a bit in the past we had a huge amount of negativity and drama, so I am really quick to squash anything, ya know what I mean?

So sorry if I was brash.

i am really excited that so many people are coming here from other threads and I just want it to be the most Positive and Welcoming experience possible :)

And the Bounty is kind of a nice gesture, but I know that if I or a couple of the Devs that I know found the Root right now we would not take a dime.

I do this for the community and not for money.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Thanks man!

Good to see you over here :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
I knew i would get ya over here! ;)

Welcome!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
I know a lot of you guys are patiently waiting, but what are you planning to do with your phone once root comes out? I know what I want to do

"Clock" the processor a bit faster

Apps to SD card

Get a Youtube App Fix

Android 2.1 is on the brand new htc phones that you can play around with and its pretty cool. =}
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ffej5647:
I admire that very much. Well I ams orry I did not know about the drama really unless you are talking about all the bashing and hell that broke loose on the hero thread all about the root on eris then yeah, i saw that but I am not a mean demanding person. At first I was going to help get root with my experience but I just cant find the time so I feel bad that I am unable to help witht hat but hopefully I can help in the future with something. I am excited to join this community and thank you acidbath for being such a kind dev!
[Droid Eris Android Development] CPCookieMan:
I don't believe the Eris is the Desire anymore, check HTC's website.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Yeah i saw that too....weirdness....we will have to see what they name the "Bravo" offically....
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ffej5647:
Pretty much the same with me also the adblocks for apps and screen capture apps are nice! What is the youtube app fix though? never heard of it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Thanks, I really appreciate that :)

Sorry again for being kneejerk to your post....Just protective of my Dev Team and people over here!

Glad you joined up and if you ever wanna help out shoot me an PM :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ffej5647:
the desire is a totally different phone and it looks quite ugly in my opinion as well!
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Yeah I saw that too...

I think that my TP2 and Eris are the best looking phones out :)

Course I am biased a bit....lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ffej5647:
I have to say the ugliest phone is probably the Hero. But I as well love the look of my Eris. Its soo sexy!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
I just want my phone to be a little less laggy. :p

I also need way more battery life, I was thinking about getting the 1750 mAh battery, but I am not completely sure it fits in the phone perfect. I sure hope it does.

oh btw, thanks Acidbath for the recommendation of swype, I love it!
[Droid Eris Android Development] jamezelle:
Editedddddd
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
No problem :)

I use it on both my phones and love it!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ffej5647:
I had the same idea as you with the battery. Swype is very nice! Let me know what you do about the battery life because I need mine boosted as well!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
-Removed because Chuck Norris can do that-
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
Here's a link to a shortened version of the Seido batteries thread over at MDW.

Extended Life Batteries for Eris @xda-developers.com
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
Does the 1750 mAh battery fit in perfectly? I heard people say that it doesn't go all the way in.

EDIT:

Thats what she said :D .. Sorry, I couldn't help myself :P
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Its handled and post will be removed...

moving on...
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
According to bad05gtt it fits fine as stated in the thread.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ffej5647:
what is the 1750 mAh battery exactly? does it just last longer than the battery already in the eris?
[Droid Eris Android Development] jamezelle:
Yes the 1750 fits like a glove back cover snaps on normally:)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
Thanks.How long does it last you if you use it alot?

BTW, Anyone who wants to chat on IRC, you can go on

irc.rizon.net

#DroidEris

I will gladly make any dev thats working on the Eris a channel operator.

Don't have an IRC Client?

Use a web one!

http://www.rizon.net/index.php?do=chat
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
Yes.

Extended Life Batteries for Eris @xda-developers.com

Please continue any discussions about battery stuff in there. This seems to be getting a little off topic here.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoban_eris:
Root & Android 2.x timeline

With the announcement today of new phones coming from HTC equipped with

sense & Android 2.1, paired with the announcement that the Eris (among other HTC phones) will be getting the update soon, I have to wonder how we'll be handling that update once we have root. This is my first android phone, so pardon any ignorance in the following question.

Assuming we have a tutorial on how to get root on the Eris tomorrow. I can either root my phone now, or wait until after the OTA update comes from Verizon. If I root now, how will I get the update? Will I need to wait for someone somewhere (do I google to find out?) releases a custom Eris rom that includes the update and then apply it myself? If I wait until after the OTA 2.x update from Verizon, will I still be able to root? If so, will it include rolling my phone back to 1.5 (possibly losing data), and then gaining root and then installing some custom Eris rom as I would if I rooted before the update? Basically, I'm trying to plan ahead to know what would be best for me, personally with regards to root and android 2.x.

Thank you devs for your hard work and forum members for making this a pleasant place to receive status updates!
[Droid Eris Android Development] devildog9999:
As of right now there is NO ROOT announced. The devs are working on it. There is also no date announced yet for 2.1 on the eris. Just hang in there bud, it will get rooted, and we will eventually get the update. Until that happens, just hang out, and enjoy the device and continue to follow the thread.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sickbox:
For one getting the update from Verizon will not provide root only Android 2.1.

After loading a ROM which has been made for your phone you will most likely get any updates from the ROM developers themselves. If you were to do an OTA or RUU on your phone after rooting it I'm not exactly sure of the consequences are but I know that in the Wii world they recommend you not to do any sort of official updates because it will strip you of all of the access you have gained or could render your Wii useless. This may hold true in the Android device world as well considering they are both just small computers.

After all... Rooting your device is not recommended by your service provider. You are pretty much responsible for it after you modify it.

I didn't want to sound mean about the last part but in essence after rooting your phone, you or someone else will likely incorporate the updates into whatever ROM you use.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Partly true...

but dont worry, once we have Root we will make a tutorial and have all these Frequesnt questions answered for everyone :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] devildog9999:
Urgh..... Going to let Acid handle this one. :-)
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
LMAO...

What? You dont want to answer repetative/ already asked and answered questions Devildog???

LOL

Like my 1st Sgt used to always say "Hurry up and wait".
[Droid Eris Android Development] devildog9999:
LOL!!! I know brother.... I know. I am trying to be patient and respectful. Semper Fi.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Good Stuff man....Thanks for your patience!
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoban_eris:
thanks

Thanks for the responses. Just in case there was some confusion about what I was asking (apparently there was by the responses I received back), allow me to quote myself an clarify.

"With the announcement today of new phones coming from HTC equipped with sense & Android 2.1, paired with the announcement that the Eris (among other HTC phones) will be getting the update soon..."

*notice that I don't ever say that I think we would be getting root access as a result of the update.

"I have to wonder how we'll be handling that update once we have root."

*This was my real question.

"Assuming we have a tutorial on how to get root on the Eris tomorrow, I can either root my phone now, or wait until after the OTA update comes from Verizon."

*I was just asking a hypothetical. I have read this entire thread and I realize that root + payload is not yet ready.

"If I root now, how will I get the update? Will I need to wait for someone somewhere (do I google to find out?) releases a custom Eris rom that includes the update and then apply it myself?"

*Thank you for answering this part of my question.

"If I wait until after the OTA 2.x update from Verizon, will I still be able to root? If so, will it include rolling my phone back to 1.5 (possibly losing data), and then gaining root and then installing some custom Eris rom as I would if I rooted before the update?"

*Me wondering how the rooting will take place under the pre/post upgrade phone which acidbath5546 mentioned would be in a FAQ. (thanks!)

Once more, "I'm trying to plan ahead to know what would be best for me, personally with regards to root and android 2.x.

Thank you devs for your hard work and forum members for making this a pleasant place to receive status updates!"

I've been long-winded again, but I just want to feel understood and have the correct questions answered instead of assumptions being made and then reacted to. Anyhow, most of my questions were answered, and I'll wait patiently for the rest to be answered if they will be answered as part of a FAQ or something else that's less personally aimed at me.

Thanks all!
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoban_eris:
After posting my last comment I saw that updates had been made to the thread. Thanks for answering my main question sickbox!
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
I understand, I didnt mean to be rude, just one of those days :( I wasnt trying to personally attack you, I apologize if you felt this way.

Once we get Root I cant wait to get everyones questions answered!

Thanks for posting and hope to see you around :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] iloveandroid:
Even if we get root, and then the 2.1 update comes out we wont have to re-root because we can just load the 2.1 rom on there
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoban_eris:
Oh, no worries at all acid. To be honest, my comments were mostly aimed at devildog9999 since he hadn't answered my questions but instead answered in a way that seemed like my post hadn't been read so I wanted to clarify in case it was hard to understand. Really, I'm not sensitive so I haven't been offended by anyone, I just wanted to get the questions answered that I had actually asked. Anyway, I didn't mean to take us off topic, I'll patiently await progress. Thanks again all.
[Droid Eris Android Development] droiddoess:
soo once the root is achieved will there be a way to make it to where the eris will actually CLOSE applications rather the just running them in the background when you toouch the back, or home button?
[Droid Eris Android Development] redman213:
Android closes apps when they aren't being used and also when you open up new apps.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Get yourself a task-killer/manager it would be a huge step backwards to auto-close apps on home multi-tasking is one of the best parts.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Ffej5647:
wow just look at you acid you ignorant asshole! you are just attacking everyone lately! whats the matter with you?!? LOL I'm just kidding around with you! You have to give yourself more credit because your not attacking people! You are a nice dev that contributes a lot to others instead of keeping it all to yourself. Keep up the good work! (BTW your my favorite dev on here so far!)
[Droid Eris Android Development] droiddoess:
i have droid task manager but its kinda annoying to have to go to that app everytime i wanna close out an app and while multi-tasking is great and im by no means slamming it, i really LIKE that about the eris but what i was wanting is a way to close out the program AND be able to run it in the back ground if i want bc when i have background apps running the battery run down alot faster, kinda like the red "X" found on the htc touch diamond/diamond 2
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
When I learned how to use Google, I realized that the answers for everything I could have ever questioned anyone about is all at my fingertips.

For example: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything

The moment I searched "The Answer to life the Universe and Everything" into Google, and the calculator came up with the number 42, I felt a sense of peace in my life I have never felt before. So now I have no more questions, and only answers that I feel I should go fourth and spread the joyous news of the all-knowing Google.
[Droid Eris Android Development] droiddoess:
Google should have its own religion. I too find peace in knowing i can ask father Google anything and he shall put forth an answer.
[Droid Eris Android Development] droiddoess:
it shall be called googleanity :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
And after I find my knowledge I can go relax and have my important meeting with Pastor Pillow and Reverend Sheets. :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
Just to point out -

Once we have root, someone *me* should be able to write some code to bypass the sig checks in the android source, so we can get 2.1 *without* losing root, assuming we have root before 2.1 comes out.

Another thing to point out - my advice is DO NOT UPGRADE to 2.1 until we get root. 2.1 runs a newer kernel, meaning we could do a diff between the old kernel and the new one, and find some exploits that were patched. All in theory of course :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] jamezelle:
yeah, i was thinking this aswell.
[Droid Eris Android Development] n2imagination:
Oooh Raah

BTW Off topic but just happened to notice a minor trend in here. How many "former's" do we have in here. I have noticed at least 2-3. Funny, some of the most tech savvy, geekiest dudes I know are jar heads.

Chesty rocks!!!:D

Semper Fi
[Droid Eris Android Development] jamezelle:
i was in the army ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] n2imagination:
Hey... It's not the Navy:rolleyes:

JK... They signed our paycheck. Props to all serving!
[Droid Eris Android Development] n2imagination:
BTW Guys. As far as the 2.1 thing goes. Does this recommendation mean do not do the OTA update to 2.1 if it should make it to us before root (which I highly doubt, but just asking in light of todays announcements at MWC by HTC).
[Droid Eris Android Development] !!CANDROID!!:
Semper Fi Brothers!!!

Sgt Evans, Wayne. United States Marine Crops!

Just waiting for root! You know I wonder why htc and the gov't don't pay you guys for your talents! If you can break the code or find and exploit...the guy who is writing the stuff on the other side...must not be that good...Hackers for example...Why doesn't the gov't just pay these guys to work for them??!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] morphius2036:
Acid I know you all are working hard on root and you update 5 sites daily but is there any way we could get a status of the payload attempts or where they are hanging up at? Not me but maybe someone eles could get a fresh set of eyes on where you all are getting stuck and be some help.

Just a suggestion

Side note how is the bounty going to be paid. I know that we didn't go with a master paypal account but I would like to be put down for $10 but depending on root and when my paycheck falls I don't want to look like I skipped out on paying.

Semper Fi brothers
[Droid Eris Android Development] CPCookieMan:
Could we always update to 2.1 and then rollback if we want root?
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
I agree :)

I agree, I spoke to a few people and a moderator, and a user based trust system is the standard.

I have seen it work on numerous occasions, and have the faith in our XDA Community :)

Any other ideas? Things I should add to the thread?

I have also posted a link over in androidcentral/htceris forums, lets spread the word!
[Droid Eris Android Development] R-T-B:
I have a paypal account with a good reputation on ebay under bcomputerconsulting. If you need a place to hold the money and everyone approves despite my limited rep here, I'd be happy to hold (and relay to the winning party) the funds.

I'll donate $20 as well.
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
I know it's sort of off-topic, but one guy on the other thread proposed we submit the information of HTCs failure to provide source to a news website like Engadget or something. Maybe after two weeks or so of the same replies? What do you think?
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Why wait submit it now...
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
yep

Yeah thay was me actually :)

I was going to put something together tommorrow and see if i cant get some press with Engadget, Gizmodo or others....

I will update what I send and replies and such..

Any other ideas?
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
Try not to mention rooting when you send it, because then if HTC does reply, that'll be the whole focus of the reply. You have to get them focused on the problem, the reasons why we need the source are not important.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Lets hope....

I emailed some editors at Engadget and Gizmodo this morning :)

Any other sites???
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
Possibly Redmondpie and Neowin.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
okay

I will shoot them the email as well.....Lets hope they will report something....
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
I think this email's a bit better, just me though:

Hello Chris,

I do thank you for your patience in this. We are aware of the many requests for the code, and I assure you we are working on making the code available. As for the update to the Eris, I do not believe you have missed any information. At this time, it has not been announced specifically which version of the Android OS the Eris will be receiving an update to, nor the exact date of when it will be available. What is known is that it will be a newer version of the OS and is scheduled to be released early this year. Here in HTC Technical Support, we do not have any further information than that; most of the information that becomes available about updates can actually be found by following the HTC Twitter account at www.twitter.com/htc. We actually find a lot of information about upcoming updates from there as well. Again, I do want to thank you for being patient and understanding with this, as well as all the others.

Philip

HTC Technical Support

www.htc.com

:)
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
:)

The emails are getting better...

They are definetly aware of us now, and that is good.

I got a reply from one of the head editors at Engadget Mobile.

He is going to get back to me soon :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Dagouk:
I'd be willing to Paypal $100 to someone that could root my Eris.
[Droid Eris Android Development] gtpdjw:
I will give 50 at least for rooting this thing
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
cool :)

Awesome!

I updated total!

$380!!!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] cyclepipe:
Put me down for 50.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Sub-Standard:
I'm new here, but have been on a couple of other forums for a while with very good rep under this same screen name. I'm good for $20.00 for this thing to get rooted.

I would also suggest that a mod hold all of the money in advance so that the money is there waiting for whoever finds root. I think that it would be a bigger incentive for someone to get this done, if we're able to say "We have $X amount in the pool waiting plus an additional $Y pledged."
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
:)

I will update with your $20.

I have already spoken to XDA Desire Moderator and Site Admin and they believe the same as I do, that this should be done via the "Honor System'.

There is to much liability on me the way you suggested, and I believe that it is better if everyone is held reponsible personally.

After all, this is a community :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] pinksocker69:
x-posting here: I'm down for $20 if someone else roots this guy.
[Droid Eris Android Development] chr1831:
Anyone know how to compile exploits (with gcc) for the android?, Everything i compile won't execute on the phone :(

-Chr1831
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
can you link me the expoit so i can take a look at to see what it does. it might need a compiler in linux which andriod does not have one.