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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] leoni1980:
Whoaaaa! Calm down!

Your point about searching for apps - whilst true in some instances - is somewhat patronizing. It might be true in your case but my experience is that although there IS an app to 'do the job' in most instances, simply fulfilling a task is not enough for me, nor indeed for many other people: I like to glean pleasure from using Apps, and it is no fanboyism to acknowledge that the IPhone SDK is thorough and allows for much better implementations of things such as social networking apps and games. If this were not the case then we would have decent versions of apps such as Nimbuzz on Windows Mobile, instead of clunky variation.There are many apps available from alternativesources for windows mobile but it seems that many of them are simply to fix problems and inconsistencies in the OS...I don't see a great development scene on Windows Mobile when it comes to apps, and implementations of things such as Facebook (demonstrated by FIM) look very homemade and amateurish compared to similar developments on the iPhone and Android platforms.

I don't mean to completely write off Windows Mobile. As A HD2 owner I am keen for development to burgeon, but when people continually get on their high horse about the iphone as if It's satan's rattle it makes me wonder if people on here aren't just a little bit jealous. The iPhone - to my mind - has been a game changer and should be celebrated for that. If you don't want to own one fair enough but it is a little ironic I think that peoplecurse it whilst clutching phones like the HD2, which wouldn't exist were it not for the 'iToy'.

....And can someone explain for me exactly where the limits of technology are being pushed here? Is copying Apple's technology and infrastructure pushing boundaries? I'm not so sure.

My HD2 is no iPhone and I miss having all those apps, but you know what - I still love it. I just don't feel the need to get angry about the iphone in the process: if the iPhone leads indirectly to a better user experience for me then I'm all for it, and I certainly wouldn't write it off as a toy.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] imperiallight:
If I was only allowed to carry one device it would be the iphone 3gs - its the best all around device, if it was two it would be the HD2 (for browsing, reading, movies and camera) and an ipod touch and in the future it may just be the HD2 with android.

There are many things this device cant do in this present time due to the crappy OS and its limited development for it. As Leoni said in another thread it is seen as an OS that lacks ambition. The iphone is the most functional device out there.

Lets shoot out three simple ones I need:

1) Voice Transcription - You can use Dragon Dictation... on the HD2 nothing.

2) PDF Annotating - You can use Aji Annotate... on the HD2 nothing.

3) CHM, DJVu or other non PDF reader that shows the document exactly like it does on my PC and doesn't take half an hour to turn a page iCHM and xDJVu... on the HD2 nothing.

With the iphone and its decent hardware and community nearly any feature you could want has a decent app for it. Scratch that make that 4 or 5 different apps competing against each other and trying to improve their product.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pspbirte:
The Palm Pre, with its new PDK, has an easy and efficient way to port existing iPhone apps to their own platform.. Thats why we begin to see full blown 3D titles on the Pre popping up everywhere.. And in no time... If Microsoft would just dedicate a SMALL amount of its resources to its mobile department, we would actually have something interesting in sight...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
Should i change this thread title to [Discussion] Running / Porting iPhone apps to HD2 ?

So that we all might share or find out more links about porting apps to HD2.

Yes iPhone have loads of crappy apps, but not totally all.

There's some great apps & when/if you have it HD2 it will be magnificent.

Having iPhone apps doesn't make you a iFanboy or make your HD2 an iToy,

its just an app, maybe does who are good in developing apps in WinMo might be able to take some of their ideas.

Like I said no flamming, if you don't like the idea of having iPhone apps in WinMo,

you may choose not to read or discuss in here. It's about pushing WinMo technologies to it's freedom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] yosisndr:
iphone apps

Hi

most iphone apps are replacement for html browsing because the iphone safari does not have plugins

in the WINMO world you can use regular browsing (mobile ie , mobile opera

and the new mobile firefox .

most other apps , if they are good enough - they will be ported by the writer to other platform

Yosi
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] matthewharmon102:
sorry if im coming accross as agressive, but too many people search for an app, click 1 link, cant find it so decide to rant about how rubbish something is. i am not too bothered about GUIs (although it is an added bonus), i find it far more important to have practicality/functionality over a pretty interface. this is why im not an apple/iphone fan, in my opinion, apple would rather package up second rate hardware, put a fruit logo on it, charge double what it is worth and use clever marketing to make most people think they need it, then 6 months later release the same thing, with a slight change and start again. i cant remember who said it in this discussion, but apple seem to get away with a lot compared to microsoft in terms of licensing breaches, misleading advertising and market control. im from the UK, and here apple were allowed to sell their iphone only on O2 and no other network could have it, nor could it be purchased unlocked. this sort of thing is NEVER allowed here, yet apple were allowed to do it 'because its apple'. and dont even get me started on the ipad!!

'pushing the limits of technology' i was refering to emulating an iphone OS/runtime. too many people dismiss the idea, but it is possible. the HD2 has about 3 times the power of an iphone so the hardware is there, it would just be a case of re-compiling the OS. i suspect drivers would be a major issue. copying apples technology would actually mean copying most other manufacturers technology. there is very little in the iphone that is unique in terms of the technologys used. hence why manufacturers like nokia are in a legal battle to get licensing fees from apple.

developing apps is never easy, and i agree there are poor versions of apps out there (i know fring is really bad, hence why i stopped using it) but its all comes down to lazy development to make products run on all platforms, reguardless of how poor the app is. im sure there are 100s of poor apps for the iphone, as there are for android, symbian and all platforms.

the reason i write the iphone off as a toy is because it has no real selling point for me, it just seems 'gimmickie'. the low spec hardware, limited OS features and the ethical policies of apple mean i would never consider one of their products. in todays world, would you not agree that running multiple apps out of the box is essential? or sending multimedia messages to others.

like i said before, the HD2 has really raised the bar in terms of development potential and for me it has become my web browser, camera, mp3 player, camcorder, photo uploader, satnav, router and ive even used it to make phone calls!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] thewookie78:
well it seems it might be doable

if someone was to decompile the app/game you wanted to convert and used this Airplay. i can't see why not multi platform development tools are not new so with this new tech anything on any phone could be:) on any phone. what app/game developer would not take advantange of the increased users usings their apps/games they would be silly
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] eskasi:
Just carry an Ipod touch with your HD2.... do you really need their gaming and multimedia capabilities so badly? I got pals who complain that their Iphones are Dumbphones that have good apps....

Personally, I am happy with my HD2 and of course would like more if possible. I hope WM7 addresses this. A higher bar for minimum hardware would also be great and I hope MS has done this with the specs the just released. This will allow for more standardization across the multiple handset manufacturers and allow devs to feel more comfortable writing apps for Windows...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hebbe:
my sentiments exactly :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
Added:: iPhone like app

Download:

»SBS Bus Time [SG Only]

Thanx to afoongwl215
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
Added:: iPhone like app

Download:

»Show Traffic [With Google Map][SG Only]

Thanx to dZenkinZ
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
Added:: iPhone like app

Download:

»Metal Detector - Proof Of Concept

Thanx to 6Fg8
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
Download:

»S2U2 - iPhone Style Slide Lock

»Co0kie's Home Tab - iPhone like menu [Swiping Style], Extended Quicklinks & More

Thanx to A_C & Co0kieMonster
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Spoofy:
Clearly none of you have read this artical:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hebbe:
clearly you didn't read this thread :p :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Spoofy:
Well the thread states possible or not, when the artical states it is MORE than possible, in fact Microsoft now have a "How to guide". I don't see that anywhere in this thread?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hebbe:
noone said that PORTING isn't possible :D you know what PORTING means?

the thread argues about running iphone apps on an hd2. thats a difference. i think "running" is more like "emulating", but not like "porting". :)

i assume that nearly every app from any system can be PORTED to another system (if there's no use of special hardware, of course).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kilrah:
Clearly you don't know about software development...

Porting, like mentioned in your article, means partial rewriting by the developer to suit the other system. That means the developer must decide they will spend hundreds of hours doing it... while the interest for them to do that is currently close to 0, so there's nearly no chance for it to happen, much less for "that precise app you'd want". What will decide if this changes is whether WP7 is successful.

This thread was about taking an iphone app executable as it is and run it on WM.

But yes, I wonder why things like airplay don't seem to have that much use. As a developer it really makes sense not only to make your work available to all platforms, but also to make it future proof... Let's say you write an airplay app now, distribute it to WM, iphone etc... and when WP7 comes out and the matching airplay module comes out, you click a button and voilà, you've got your app out on the brand new platform without any additional work.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hebbe:
that's the point, exactly! :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
That's where people always misunderstood, about running means emulate ? duHh

Running can be in any form, it just depends on how the developer want to create it.

Even if you port an app it still run as iPhone app but its only built for WinMo.

So it's still basically just an app. Lastly chill down, there's no need to flame each other :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hebbe:
i think there's no missunderstanding by most of the people! :D (and noone is flaming -> personally i think this is a very interesting discussion ;))

running an iphone app definetly means taking an iphone binary, putting it on a winmobile device and just executing it. emulation is a method to do so (maybe the only possible). taking an app for the iphone, completely rewriting the code, adapting and recompiling it is porting an app to winmobile (in order to run it).

there's still a fine but remarkable difference between these expressions! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] omershahab:
What do you think the chances of an iPhone OS port to the HD2?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Birger:
Check out my video, this eliminates the need to have iPhone OS on the HD2 :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yDWXDk4GWM :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] plotgame:
Hey Birger..

I just watched that video on youtube you posted and i was amazed..

Is it possible to have sth like that on my HD2..?

Are there roms in this site that could allow you to enjoy such a result?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] nalab1:
+1 for that!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jzamero:
Hey Briger

can you share with us yours application list

very nice phone
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] BlazinAsian:
grand theft auto chinatown wars on the hd2!? that would be truly amazing come on this is a must have! would this be possible?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jzamero:
Does somebody have the link to the Expose task switcher that shown in the video
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Popeyes_Rat:
Off topic but right thread; I would LOVE 'Angry Birds' to be on done for the HD2!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
Nice video mate, keep it up :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ironman12:
i would agree 100%
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mazzarin:
Nice work, new-thread worthy!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Birger:
Hi guys,

Tnx for the positive reactions,

OK, here are all my used ingredients:

The ROM I use is that one of Arthemis 5.5 NLD

I use iPhoneToday as today plugin. There I use the Alpha blend on background,and following movement settings: 1; 12; 40; 70; 1.

For icons, I used them mostly from http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4238184&postcount=6

I use PhoneEx for phone, email, stuff and also put it into the today so I get the top bar.

To get the next upcomming calendar apointment, I use the standard calendar today plugin and click "only next appointment".

As calendar app, I use "Thumbcal"

To get it small enough, in the Screen settings, I use cleartype off and size of letters "extra small".

Then I used for the lock screen "S2U".

As music player, I used "S2P".

"CorePlayer" for video

As photo app, I use "Resco Photo Manager"

"Resco Explorer" for ... explorer

The "Expose" is called "TaskFacade4" (look for facade on this forum)

And a very important one is "cleanRam" this keeps your device working at full speed all the time (no resets or blocks)

I hope this helps you to get a similar result. If you happen to find some things to add, please let me know :-)

Regards,

Birger
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Wombat57484:
really nice setup, but when I tried it I was unable to continue using the htc contacts. I therefore lost all of the pictures it kept updated from Facebook. also, phoneex needs to be paid for :-(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Birger:
Hi, I think of setting up my phone with the manilla as it is standard and to add a tab with the iPhoneToday...

If I set it up and all works well, I'll make a new video and a list of used ingredients.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tidefever:
I have an iPhone 3Gs that is jailbroken (hacked) and it can do everything that the HD2 can do and alot more. I have an HD2 so I know. I like both of theses phones very much. The HD2 appeals to me more because of the screen size and multimedia portion but the iPhone is the best when it comes to apps and games. Both are great phones and very customizeable. The iPhone probaly more though.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] HTC_Junglist:
And it seems it can't even play a video clip at the moment without going out of sync! What is the point of us having this sized screen & processor power if it can't even do this simple thing. My P3600 runs films better than my HD2, so sad :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mamv:
Have you tried TCPMP? here

It can play my pc divx movies without convertion really smoothly...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] HTC_Junglist:
My divx films play smootly, and look nice, but always no mater what I use (Core Player, WMP or Built in player) the audio always goes out of sync.

From what I have heard this is a HD2 & Snapdragon issue, does TCPMP solve this?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mamv:
Never tried watching with other software, but I'm watching movies all the time with subtitles and the audio is in sync...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] HTC_Junglist:
Ok, thanks, I'll give this a go.

Will see how the sync issue goes with it.

Thanks again.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] HTC_Junglist:
Just tried it and yeah it runs sweet, no sync issues!

May have to play with video settings though as some lines look jagged, but only minor if you look close. I'll have a play but its certainly not an issue if I can't find a better video setting within TCPMP, its only a very, very minor issue if I look close.

Thanks again :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mystik610:
Except Multi-task.

and view flash sites

and have a calendar that doesn't suck and support alerts

and support a wide variety of video codecs

I have a jailbroken iPhone (first gen), and windows mobile is definitely more customizable...particulary when you start modding sense.

The iPhone wins in terms of apps though...by a landslide.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Archer:
How's the wifi router? Is it better than the windows app? And videos must be smoother on the iPhone since it's only 1/4 of the sharpness, so it's not comparable.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Birger:
TCPMP works very good on my HD2, and so does CorePlayer. No lags, smooth playback on all formats.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] skylinepigeon:
my videos play perfectly with the stock player
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MrCreel:
WOW! Can u share CAB's? Looks really great! : )
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] loomx:
Coreplayer allows you to adjust the Audio/Video syncing in the settings :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] HTC_Junglist:
I don't get any lag or juttering, just the audio going out of sync.

But TCPMP has solved that :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] quasi_mojo:
WOW after reading 12 pointless pages of nonsense i can definetly say:

Worstest thread evar!!!11!!

apple & microsoft & Htc: 3 company's each with different ideas.

well done to HTC for providing us a massively capable marvel of hardware in such a sexy design

microsoft? could at least try to push WM further into the minds of the general public, and actually create some half decent software rather than concentrating on making another bloody search engine (BING, i hate it)

apple? well i will always hate apple for being such arrogant, closed-minded, vain, w**kers.

and if i had the intelligence to create my own apps, you can bet your spotty backside i'd be cloning every app i could find from the itunes store ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
Nonsense & worstest thread ever ? LOL :D

They why are you replying this thread for mate ?

'and if i had the intelligence to create my own apps, you can bet your spotty backside i'd be cloning every app i could find from the itunes store' - it already prove that you want iPhone app in WinMo.

I guess there's no wrong or harm having iPhone apps in WinMo, as you know

WinMo have all the freedom for all kinds of mod. Don't tell me you're have not even use

CHT app in your HD2 ?

From my knowledge, there's already some iPhone apps in Marketplace which

is a failure to most of us.

It's true iPhone really sucked big time, but I was referring to some of their great apps to be ported / cloned / remade for WinMo users.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] quasi_mojo:
yes its a crap thread, im adding my 2 pence, as i said, if i had the intelligence to create/port/rip apps then i would do whatever i could to give a proud 2 fingered british salute to apple....

unfortunately my mind is elsewhere... cars/girls/party's/setting up a modshop for custom cars, so my head is kinda full already :D

i'll just try as hard as i can to never EVER giving apple any of my money! (i wont even have quicktime installed on my machine LOL)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
Then why even bother to reply ? Like I said in my 1st post no flaming :D

If you really don't like the word iPhone or Mac, feel free to move on.

I don't need negative feedback in here. This thread are meant for discussion.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] edangel:
i have a question...i ve just watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm3QgFi7cQo&feature=related.........

so it is possible games from WP7 to be combatible to htc hd2 with sense?

cause i know wp7 will not be upgradable for htc hd2!if kinda those games like on wp7 will be playable and supported on our beloved htc hd2 then we dont need an iphone if some of you need only the games...!!!

i have both devices htc hd2 and an iphone 3g but i love much more the htc hd2...but when i am boring and i am on my bed i want to play some games and iphone hangs me well to that point...but i kinda dont like iphone!!!so it would be great if we can have those games of the WP7 on htc hd2... !!!!sorry for my english.....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] quasi_mojo:
uugghh!

as i said: if i could port the apps across, i would. not because i want the apps (imho i dont think id ever use them) i would do it for the community of XDA (and to get up the nose of every apple fanboy) and i would fully support anyone willing to undertake the task.

the point is: there is no point. porting/emulating the apps will never happen.

as stated before earlier in the thread: different hardware model, different file structure, etc etc

the only reason there are so many apps for iphones is because of the fixed hardware and software, many small-time 'developers' sprung up to make a fast buck (as said before, how many fart noise apps do you need?).

however, cloning the apps is a more viable approach, yes it will take longer to develop but the end result is therefore written specifically for WM :) once i've got some organisation back in my life im going to continue my studies and hopefully start coding some simple apps for our HD2's (start small, think big!)

anyhow: Continuing the 'discussion'

espaleena: what apps on the iphone do you specifically like?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
Hmmm about WM7 games or apps I'm not too sure, but I would love it too.

Maybe you can keep track in here http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=605

I'm still waiting for the dual boot on HD2. Loved my Leo too much then any other phone LOL!!!!

I have some PS1 games & other emulators which are great enough to kill my boredom, but rarely

play much games on my HD2 as it will drain batt quite fast.

I prefer apps for daily use but than again I'm not speaking for myself only.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] edangel:
yes you're right...so the ps1 emulator is a good solution to kill my time..i didnt tried it yet but i ll give it a try...!!!!hope to run well as i heard...!i will agree with you to have apps for daily use...AND i love my htc leo much more than my girlfriend :p:p:D:D:D

last thing,i would like to provide a link to a video that could make most of you laugh cause the conversation we got here on this thread is some kinda close to this video...so enjoy it.. i am still laughing :D -------->>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdbaMOcwgUc&feature=related
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] keem85:
This is totally killing me!!!! :

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/irig/features/

I WANT THAT APP ON MY HD2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] JHimmelbauer:
no problem - use PocketStompbox from 4pockets (http://www.4pockets.com/product_info.php?p=81) - check the trail version...