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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] belalb3:
nice work

but i hope if u could make a rom but without changing the icons or its arranging inside the start-menu and keeping the start up as it was without ur logo!!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mcspikesky:
I tried with all of your ROMs with no luck. it would setup, restart then hang. In the end i did what the guy i quote below did and after it flashed and i did a hard reset it booted every time, although I am yet to try and flash another ROM.

p.s. all the ROMs i tried to flash were 576mb enabled. Hope this helps.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Well I have not known that the radio was a requirement but only to enable the 576 mb RAM. However I have never used another Radio than one intended for the 576 mb RAM. So it's good to know for others and I will update the first post.

I don't think this will happen as I like a clean start menu. You can change the theme to HTC Black and get the stock theme back. And you can change the Welcomehead192.jpg in Windows to the stock one. I have attached for you. This should put it back close to stock.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bjrmd:
Hi

Any way to start the ereader app without have manilla running--I am using mobile shell. I did install the full manilla package but did not select it in the today menu.

Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Not to my knowledge, but I have not spent much time with it as it just came out a few days ago.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
in the regestry edit you enter the section BCMSDDHD1 has any one noticed that the first 3 letters bcm reveals to the broadcom chip that exists in it as models from this company starts with 3 letters like (BCM4329)

and the only chip in this company that supports n wifi is the (BCM4329) that exists in the google nexus one and this chip supports fm transmition so

conclusion (if hd2 really supports wifi n type then it contains the only chip that supports it which is the BCM4329 that should support fm transmittence ) so if (wifi n) is really supported then the hd2 has a built in (fm transmitter hardware) that exists in the (BCM4329)chip so we hope to make an application to activate this option

correct me if iam wrong

what we have reached till now for developers

1.BLAST3RR have helped us with the datasheet in the attatchements for the broadcom chip

2. some tests are made to make sure that the hd2 has a really wifi n hardware and it seems that it supports it some what so we are some what sure that hd2 contains the BCM4329 chip as it is the only chip that supports wifi n type but we need live evidense

3. there are some pics of the internal components but it doesnot show the kind of the chip

4. xmoo posted a link to a cab that may help us in developing http://rapidshare.com/files/34053706...ebug_Tools.cab and here is the link of its thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5446085

5.BLAST3RR reached that hd2 definitely has an audio path to the TX part for the FM radio, as it is listed in the 'WceSetAudioDev'.

Among the options is a 'I2S TX'. I therefore assume this is the path needed to feed the transmitter audio

6.useful files are added in attatchements fmradiosdk.dll & htcfm.dill to help in development

what is missing us

1. we only miss drivers for now

thanks you all for your support

i have posted a post in windows software development forum to ask experts to help us this is the post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=624822

updates

the hd2 is confirmed now to to have the bmc 4329 see this link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=624331 see the attatchements ​
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
Interesting..

Subscribing to this topic.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
thanks for the support
[HD2 General] chri55tof:
+1 here ______________
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
let's hope some of the professionals read this post and help us
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
please i don't want this post to die
[HD2 General] elyl:
Anything is (possible). But wouldn't the (HD2) need some kind of (transmission aerial) suitable for (FM)? And if it had that, then (HTC would have added the feature in the first place).

Why the weird brackets, by the way?
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
interesting
[HD2 General] harddisk_wp:
Good luck for the R&D guys to figure that out. Some mod should make this one sticky.
[HD2 General] webjunky:
+1 here aswell
[HD2 General] Monty Burns:
oooh yea, subscribing
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
the fm transmittance antenna is in the broadcom chip(BCM4329) it self as it is said to has two antennas see this http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4329

and rememper tp2 it has fm radio hardware but it was disabled until some developers enabled it by cab and disabeling wifi n in hd2 until a sutiable tweak to enable it (who knows why htc do things like this)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i hope this thread to be stickey as it will be ignored and we will never know the truth
[HD2 General] ralphfx:
+1

Very interesting indeed!
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
Even if this is the case, I think the same antenna would be used as for receiving FM radio (the headset). So still, no worries as far as the aerial concerns.

This would probably require a driver to work first, though. Then the second thing to find is an application to send audio to it/control frequencies.

Anyone who would be able to develop such application will definitely get a donation from me.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
but i think fm transmittance antenna is not the same as the fm reciver my frind has nokia n79 it needs headset to recive fm but it transmits without it

i think fm transmittence is direct from the chip as it has two antennas one for wifi and other for fm transmittence as i read before but reciving fm signals is through the headset as it needs longer antena
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
I know, but I was just stating that the aerial should therefore be no problem.

And that this would definitely be worth investigating.
[HD2 General] srw985:
When I had a Nokia N86 it had the FM transmitting aerial built into the battery cover.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
sorry you are right the aerial is not the problem now
[HD2 General] nutmegy:
Subscribing!!!!
[HD2 General] qazokm123:
Hi,

FI.

My home dir655 is set to active only 11n ( no g no b ).

HD2 is connectable to wifi.
[HD2 General] The-Kevster:
Just wanted to add another confirmation. With the modified registry entry and a Draytek 2820 set to 802.11N-Only I was able to connect without any problems. Connected at 24MBps compared to 1MBps with 802.11G.
[HD2 General] chaps:
I've got a Linksys simultanious dual band N router. My 'N' enabled HD2 only sees the 2.4ghz band, not the 5ghz.
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
The HD2 does not support MIMO for obvious reasons. It only supports one N-stream, which equals 65Mbit/s which my router reported as running radio rate when connected to the HD2 exclusively in N-only mode.

Can't really test file transfers but that isn't the point. It has been confirmed.

Now lets just move on and get some results!
[HD2 General] TJSpeedy:
Hello,

everybody say "open the HD2" but is was opened and you can see the pictures here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=582652

Isn't it enough for you or what do you want to see?

If it would help i can ask my Boss to make X-ray pictures from HD2's inner life.
[HD2 General] Archer:
People are asking because the pics in the thread you linked are small. You can't see any detail on there, so you can tell what's what. It's just stuff stuck on a circuit board.

They want closer images, with more details. That's all.

Anyway, there is a guy who posted in this very thread that he'd opened his and confirmed the chip type, but he got called a liar. Since then, there's been nothing but discussion about whether or not the chip actually is in the device, despite people getting wireless connections when their router was using wireless-n only, and despite getting massively better speeds and range.

I think the people that want more proof should either open their own device or stop asking.
[HD2 General] MAD MAXX:
Hello evreybody...

im really interssted in this thread!

I looked for a simple Datasheet of the BCM4329 Chip and i found this one.

http://www.datasheetdir.com/BCM4329+Bluetooth

In my opinion it sems to be a difference between the "normal" BCM4329 Chip you wrote in firt post and another one with an additional "H" in its Name...

In the block diagram you can see it too...

(I hope you could understand me and my english :o )
[HD2 General] TJSpeedy:
Ok i understand what you mean. But why do they not open their own devices?!

I read it but i couldn't belive that he had opend it. an the chip in the picture was so hardly destroyed that the chip would not work anymore. I work for a semiconducter and know how fragile theese devices are.

Isn't it possible to ask HTC or a firm that repairs the HD2 which Broadcom Chip was used for the HD2.

Isn't there any program like Everest for PC that can be used to find out what products are build in the HD2?
[HD2 General] Archer:
Everest for winmo would be great! Nice idea.

I think the pic that you're on about where the chip was damaged was not a HD2. It was just a picture of the chip in question, so not relevant to the discussion at all.

I don't see a problem with just reading specs and accepting them, but that's just me :)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i will write email to htc and ask them
[HD2 General] TJSpeedy:
hee guys...let him...our necessary topic is to help the developers. if they read this thread they would run away and let us stay alone in the rain...

our main topic is to get a programm to recive TMC...we should do everything we can to get results but we should not discuss about other members and stupid things.

It is not stupid to contact HTC or our providers (and there repair centers) to get theese informations. it might be possible that they will help us. we must no tell the truth why we need this information we can say we need it for a	degree dissertation or something like this.

i will try to contact someone in germany.

i tried to make xray pictures but you cant see the lable of the chips.

i hope you all know what we have to do!!!
[HD2 General] Mtk87:
I've read the whole thread and it is really interesting.

Said that I'm a total noob, I found a file in the windows folder called nvram in which there are lots of reminds on the chip BCM4329:

Inside it says:

#bcm94329sdagb board

sromrev=3

vendid=0x14e4

devid=0x432f

boardtype=0x4b9

if we look at the board list of broadcom we notice that boardtype 0x4b9 refers to the BCM94329sdagb.

maybe this is a clue which says that the chip inside BCM4329, or maybe I said a big idiocy and if so, I apologize with everyone

I hope it helped.

Bye
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
I'm a bit surprised at that considering it's definitely an enthusiast/techie phone.

There doesn't seem to be ANY mention of the internal FM transmitter on their forums besides the initial discovery of the BCM4329 chip. You'd think they'd be working at it too. Perhaps my google-fu is just weak.
[HD2 General] harddisk_wp:
When you look at the block diagram, FM RX and TX antenna are same, so it should be able to use the headphones as antenna.
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
Indeed, the antenna for RX is also shown as 'optional'. So it should have some kind of antenna built-in anyways.

However, once the Android guys start working on it, we might be seeing drivers for Linux based devices soon and could use the source of those to develop our Windows CE driver for the HD2.

As we have no clue at all how to get the chip do anything, we just have to wait until we know what instructions can be sent and go from there.
[HD2 General] emigrating:
You would think so, but I am unable to get any reception without the headphones plugged in (using the HTCFM 'toolkit' app you are able to scan/start the radio without them attached) so either the optional bit means if not connected it simply won't work - or if connected it overrides the external antenna no matter what. Either way it sucks as it means having to utilize the 3.5mm jack for TCM info and/or FM transmission.
[HD2 General] ZaZu90:
Yalla shabab you can do it !!

Hopefully you will be able to turn on the fm transmitter :D

Keep up the good job guys, good luck :D

As smuppy just replied, I think you guys are on the right path :)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
you are the the firist one i see here to talk arabic i missed arabic allot
[HD2 General] Archer:
Thanks mod ;)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
are the last three pages deleted
[HD2 General] TJSpeedy:
yes it looks like the pages are missing...i think it would be better and now we can go on with our main topic. we have now the information what is inside.

how can i help to find a solution?
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
start searching about the drivers used to test bluetooth chips that is all for now untill some experts read the post and try to help us as iam not expert with chips
[HD2 General] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
I've just spent the last hour removing posts from this thread. It obviously went way off course. Please do your best to stick to the topic and be respectful of others. It will make life a lot easier for everyone if you do. :)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
will you stick this post if we respect each others
[HD2 General] ZaZu90:
I think a good approach is too look for experts rather than waiting for them to come here.

Good luck bro.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i will look in other forums and searsh for experts to talk to them
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
after the chip is confirmied now the post is dying
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
We have had some pretty technical people in this thread already. If it takes a monetary donation to bring the right minds here, I wouldn't mind helping with some € :)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
how could we apply donation in this post
[HD2 General] scottmo:
Excellent!

Guys, if you can get this to work... wow!

Subscribing
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i think work here has stopped no more posts no more development forget about fm transmitter the lake of experts is the problem now development stopped until i find any one to help us i will search in other phones forums
[HD2 General] ralphfx:
I don't think it has stopped. See this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=497977

The expertise needed is there :)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
but they are working on different project
[HD2 General] ralphfx:
True, but I read that once that is finished there will be time to investigate the BCM4329 chip :)

But if you can find other developers, please do so!! The sooner the better ;)
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
i will do what i can i have already sent to one of the windows development to help us but he didnot reply untill now if you know any one tell him
[HD2 General] ralphfx:
I will, but for now I don't know anyone with the skills needed..
[HD2 General] TJSpeedy:
i wrote also a request in some other german forums and asked if they can help us. i hope will find some experts that can help the XDA experts :D

--XDA Developers are the only ONE-- :D
[HD2 General] TJSpeedy:
we will find a solution...if you read this... :-)

flywhc wrote:

About HD2, you can see I tried looking at everything new in that HD2 FM thread. I have to do that after Eten adaption. It is unlikely to have progress in short time. in the mean time, find someone has very strong VC++ and ARM skills with HD2, or hack into broadcomm to get their documents
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
mee to i posted in nexus forum as it has same issue and posted in windows mobile software development put till now no answer
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
no more posts the thread is dying
[HD2 General] ralphfx:
Thread isn't dying, sometimes patience is in order :)

And since we have to wait for an expert (or more ;))...
[HD2 General] zefiltrin:
Just wait...

The attention is divided right now between 576 RAM and FM Transmitter.

As soon as all the ROMs start delivering 576 RAM, people will loose interest in that and will want the FM Transmitter.

This is, of course, if the rumor of 1GB of ROM does not show up, hehehe.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
good and satisfying comment i think all hardware development posts as mine and the extra ram post should be sticked like what is done in hd forums and etc
[HD2 General] d4v0r:
I've been following this thread from the first post, and I really hope FM TRANSMITTER will be enabled. Keep up the good work!
[HD2 General] NSider:
Just showing my support here. It would be fantastic if we can enable this hidden gem of a feature. :)
[HD2 General] mgear:
"Yes, look here :

http://www.9to5mac.com/broadcom-BCM4...one-802.11n-FM

I switched router to pure, clean 5 GHz mode then connected HD2 in 5GHz band. I also opened up and saw the chip. We are wasting time arguing here when we could be searching for the transmitter."

This is nonsense. As i descriped and posted earlier it does connect on just "n" mode with the tweaks but only at 2.4.ghz not 5. I know this for a fact since i have a dir-855 wireless n router witch has 2 networks up at the same time. One is named nx-1 the other nx-2. I can only connect on the nx-1 alltough set on n only it can connect. The hd-2 doesnt even see the nx-2 network, my laptop witch supports both 2.4 & 5ghz however sees them both so i think this is proove only 2.4ghz and 64mbit on n mode. Perhabs this is why it has been disabled since there is only the distance and a bit more speed to gain at the price of less accu working time.
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
Still, in the future networks might be N-only to preserve speed and performance, which comes in handy for the chip to already have this.

We have the chip, but we have the version that does not support 5Ghz-band A and N frequencies :) (there are 2 models if you look at the data sheet).
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
does the chip need an external antenna to send and recive fm waves
[HD2 General] emigrating:
Most likely, yes - the same way it needs an external antenna to receive FM.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
so how we could transmitt without antenna
[HD2 General] xelon999:
Attach the HTC earphones with the built in FM aerial?
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
error happened
[HD2 General] flywhc:
if you ever use in car FM Transmitter, you would remember they don't have antenna.

that's why they are only working in car.
[HD2 General] Cass67:
Don't need much to receive an FM signal and especially nothing with a dedicated FM antenna. The HTC headphone cable is as much of an antenna as any other type of copper cable that fits in the hole ..

As as test i had to see if anything with a 3.5mm jack plug would receive FM .. guess what ?

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/ulY0h_2VqAhUTzSqbrIXdw?feat=directlink

It seems anything with a 3.5mm jack plus is capable of receiving a signal .. That pic is an old set of headphones with as much of the cable cut out leaving only the jack plug..

She signal level is not bad on a few stations, quite good in fact ..

Im sure some hack like this would be enough to tx radio from the phone holder in your car to the car stereo antenna or home hifi without resorting to long dangling cables.. Id be happy using in my car if it ever works :D
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
then the chip does transmitt the waves i heared this in somewere but don't remember
[HD2 General] Big Purple Penguin:
I may be wrong, but the antenna is probably internal on the in car transmitters. Whereas we are talking about no antenna at all connected to the chip?
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
but i think it willnot br problem as i see in the image of the chip the rx and tx have same antenna so we can use the 3.5 mm jack to connect antenna
[HD2 General] Archer:
Yes mate. An antenna is definitely needed for a transmitter to work. Since the chip is not connected to any transmitter, even if it were possible to make it transmit, it simply wouldn't work. An external transmitter with a 3.5mm jack plug is the only way round this.
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
Doesn't work for me. No signal at all (not even weak) with my 3.5inch Philips earphones connected.

So not all earphones will work. Just have to be lucky yours does.
[HD2 General] nikc0069:
As far as I'm aware, it would use the same means to transmit as the unlockable wifi-n :)
[HD2 General] Cass67:
Yeah i must be lucky :D

I have 5 3.5mm Jack plug accessories that seem to work,

1, iPhone ear plugs

2, Sennhieser headphones

3, Wreaked plug on its own from old cheap ear plugs (pic)

4, 3.5mm - 3.5mm cable (mp3 player to hifi adapter)

5, HTC headphones supplied with HD2

All give a good fm signal .. I dont fancy butchering all of them to see if they work with the plug only though ;)
[HD2 General] elyl:
Nope. Different aerial, as per chip diagram. Same aerial as FM receiver, so via 3.5mm jack.
[HD2 General] nikc0069:
I stand corrected :) I'd love to see half the potential stuff i the HD2 hardware actually made available!
[HD2 General] thebomber:
looking forward for fm really

thx alot guys
[HD2 General] alunalub:
Please make the FM transmitter work. Thanks !
[HD2 General] jbl200:
+1 interesting stuff
[HD2 General] TJSpeedy:
Great, Today i got a answer about the device that was used for the HD2 and HTC Europe condirmed it is a BCM4329. :D Next time we could save time if we ask directly the HTC company. :D

following the German answer of HTC:

New Response From [ Christoph (DACH Support (Customer Service)) ]

Sehr geehrter Herr Jxxxxx,

Vielen Dank fuer Ihre Anfrage bezueglich des HTC HD2.

Es handelt sich bei dem HD2 um einen Broadcom BCM4329 Chip. Viel Erfolg noch mit Ihrer Projektarbeit.

Mit freundlichen Gruessen

Christoph T.

HTC

http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
[HD2 General] Cass67:
[QUOTE

Vielen Dank fuer Ihre Anfrage bezueglich des HTC HD2.

Es handelt sich bei dem HD2 um einen Broadcom BCM4329 Chip. Viel Erfolg noch mit Ihrer Projektarbeit.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Good luck with your project or work .. WOW .. Since you got such a friendly supportive response i think you should respond with a request for a driver, nice one :D
[HD2 General] harddisk_wp:
Ha, wie geil is DAS denn :D Und jetzt nach nem Treiber oder Docs fragen XD
[HD2 General] MAD MAXX:
that is a really helpful answer or (!!) they know that the part with that FM Transmitter is not connected to the Mainboard?! :p
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
the fm reciver and transmitter are on same place then they are connected to the 3.5 mm jack

PLEASE NO MORE QUESTIONS I WII NOT POST HERE ANY MORE

IF ANY THING NEW we will bump the thread again but up to know no more results no one knows any thing finally the post is dead so forget about fm transmitter and let the project die
[HD2 General] z_rudy:
Wow.. No need for a dramatic murder for the thread and the "kill itself" stuff. Someone will drop some help :) Optimism...
[HD2 General] elyl:
Dude, you need to calm down and maybe get laid. Just because every person who posts doesn't have the answer to how to access the FM transmitter, doesn't mean you should come out with dramatic crap like "(discontinued project)" in the thread title.

You make yourself out to be a petulant teen who is annoyed than nobody's given you the solution on a plate.

The thread was never really a "project" anyway, since it's clear you don't really know what you're talking about, and were just putting snippets of information others had added to the thread in the first post.

You're not a moderator. If a thread needs to be closed, they will close it.
[HD2 General] compact_bijou:
+1 .. hoss_n2 is prolly drunq :D
[HD2 General] madindehead:
I hate it how people get bored and kill a project because information is slow. These things take time.

You can't just say no more posts either. People will post if they want to. Really, how old are people on this forum?
[HD2 General] aikon359:
im sorry hoss, i dont mean this to sound bad but... you really need to grow up dude... rome wasnt built in a day.

theres no need to go all "BIG RED DRAMATIC WRITING" and kill the thread, this is a useful resource for a lot of people.

so come on.. get some stones and see this through matey.

i still apreciate all the effort you put in and im pretty sure everyone else subscribed to this thread is appreciative too.
[HD2 General] compact_bijou:
progect discontinued no more posts no more questions no more any thing since the thread is forgotten

And we don't have any thing new to say so no more posts and let the project kill it self by it self

Alan-u-akbar )[-boom-](