yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Sorry Guys, again I where wrong with the SMS sorting bug. Not fixed at all! :/

I attached a comment in the Bugs section.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ericc191:
Yeah, I've been trying to sort that out on my end and so far no luck, but I'm patient. Everything else is solid!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] universil:
Nah Jacko,

I couldnt even make a call so the signal indicator was correct.Also she tried sending me text message and that didnt go through.

I am currently "upgrading my rom" to smartmove :)

EDIT.

Ended up using show lite for now, (just coz of quick links)

In me heart I still love Old School, better quick links and a little slicker, but for now I try this.

The cool android taskbar still works here :-)

I may go back to Old School but the radio issue troubles me, ever so slightly, coz most of the time I had no problem with it.

Thanks again for a series of excellent roms.

One other thing.

Is it possible to switch off weather animations?

ooops didn't matter I found a registry adjustment to get rid of weather, and using Jacko Full 1.6 for now :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mionica:
No idea, if I don't get 6.1, I might just as well get the program buttons on the home screen :) I'm actually using ShowLITE ATM, but considering moving (back to) JackFULL (again).

Well, unfortunately the issue with the radio is very much real. I've lost some phone calls I really shouldn't have, and that's on GSM 1800 (DCS), not HSDPA 2100. Phone also reported no signal. Seems to be coming-back-from-standby related, though.

Same spot, an hour later, ShowLITE: 4 bars. Even after resuming from standby. I did quite a bit of testing to make sure :)

I think I'll unpack OldSchool and put in the radio dll from the S2's and see just how bad battery life is. I still prefer OldSchool above all, but missing important calls in certain spots is not my idea of how things should happen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] universil:
I love Old School best by a mile.

And in desperation I am trying it with a newer radio.

I know the battery life may not be brilliant but if it lasts a day I can easilly live with a daily charge :rolleyes:

There are numerous reasons why it's best.

the speed of it!!!

The excellent multi links when you use "start". (way faster and better than cookie.

The speaker phone works :D:D:D:D

The touch pro 2 loves old school and old school loves it.

It's a perfect marriage and other roms well.....

I did try plenty other roms again, and they are ok, if not for the speakerphone issue i would have lived with them...but I couldnt help but miss the speed and fluency of Old School :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Pff, LOL. There is a switch with you may put in the quicklinks so you turn off the animation X_X Stop using registry tweaks, haha, you're not the first one.

THERE IS A STUPID SWITCH. COME-ON GUYS :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
As always, blame HTC. They messed up things with the old radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I agree that there is definitely a issue. I where thinking about using a radio from S roms, not the S2 ones. I mean the 4.49.25.17 radio. I always tried to put together WM6.1 + 4.49.25.91 radio. Maybe this was my bad?

It's bad... Trust me, it sucks battery like hell in standby. During usage you shouldn't be able to tell the difference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
In collaboration with Skrobel I'm trying to force HTC to fix this. Unbelievable they didn't fix it already.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] universil:
hmmmm whyever not 4.49.25.17

Well.....

Since changing a radio is so painless I will most certainly do it right now LOL

So, if Jacko says that 4.49.25.17 might be a solution thats good enough for me.

Who knows????

Maybe Jacko's new, but yet top secret, Sleek Basic 1.6 will rival the wonderful Old School anyways ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I prefer a hardreset after a radio change. A lot of other chefs/users disagree with this, but I'll stay with my opinion. Imho hardreset is essential after a radio change.

Without a 4.49.25.17 rilphone.dll included in ROM a radio change won't help with the battery problem. It was just my loud thinking that maybe some other radios and rilphones might perform better on WM6.1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] universil:
Dammm IT!!!!

The new radio is in, and didn't hard reset.....

But it will work as good as last one did for now eh??

Till you get this fixed in for me as a cab or a fully fledged new Old School rom.

I expect you will have Old School 1.4 New within the hour????? :D:D:D:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Nope, I have no plans to update Oldschool ROM soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mionica:
Sounds well worth a try... thanks!

Fair enough, that settles it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Tell me how it performs. Maybe I'll do this same in the original Oldschool ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mionica:
After a while on SleekBASIC, I believe you could safely bury this ROM. It's IMO still the best you've ever cooked ;) but the radio quality issue makes it somewhat... unsafe.

P.S. I didn't get to try the S radio / rilgsm.dll yet, but given SleekBASIC, I don't think I will anytime soon :D

Sigh. Though SleekBASIC isn't perfect (OldSchool is), the radio support in it seems to imply that I won't be flashing my phone again in the next weeks :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] universil:
Agreed, OldSchool was a masterpiece, I would never have flashed again but, the radio issue makes it very iffy :(

So it's slick basic for me too.

Rest in peace Old School :(:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] morsoseth:
Thanks Jacko!

Sorry that its taken so long to post but as I dont know much about programming and I pretty much just use the site to download Roms, I really cant contribute much. That being said, I felt compelled to give thanks to Jacko. This Rom is amazing.

I hated my Tilt2 when I got it. Not the functionality, just the fact that the homescreen was so blah. It didnt take long to find xda. Glad I did. I went through quite a few Roms before finding this one. I used just about all of them. I liked them but I hated the battery life or lack thereof when using them. I was actually going back to the stock Rom when I stumbled upon Jackos.

This is by far the best Rom for the Tilt2. The programs work at amazing speeds. Everything is perfect for me and my style of use. I pretty much use the phone for calls, messaging, email, and facebook which shocked me when using other Roms due to the quick depleting battery life. My phone sits in my back pocket nearly 10 hours a day out of my 12 hour workday. With other Roms, I would basically have to leave work and charge the phone on the way home.

After using Jackos for a full day including changing the settings to my liking..I had over 78% battery life after work. It was amazing. Infact, I took my two boys camping this weekend in the woods back behind our house. I left work at 5:00 pm Saturday having taken the phone off the charger at 8:00 am. I came directly home, packed up our gear and took off to the woods. After the boys had fallen asleep around 11:30 pm, I began watching some Youtube videos (George Carlin clips) until the temperature dropped enough to sleep comfortably. I'd say about 3 hours of straight use. Leaving the phone on the for rest of the night, we awoke around 7:00 am. My phone still had 39% battery life. This is exactly what I had been looking for. Once again, thanks for all the hard work Jacko.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] universil:
I agree with you morsoseth :D

BUT......

You really must try Jacko SleekBASIC 1.7a because it is like Old School but better.

I know it sounds impossible but its true LOL

Sleek Basic 1.7a is THE rom for the touch pro 2 :D

ps.It lets you use a nice more uptodate radio and it retains the genius of Oldschool.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] greatdane73:
Proximity sensor not working

Hi,

First of all, my sincere congratulation for your superb build. I have been using it for the past week, and it truly rocks.

I do seem to have a small problem. While on a call, once the screen goes off, it does not light up even when i take the phone away from my ear.

In fact even to cut the call, i have to press the power button to switch on the screen, and then cut the call.

Am I doing something wrong?

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BeEazy10:
this is the best of the best of Jackos Roms. fast, no choking, no glitches, no hang, no surfing the web problem, no dailer problem, no SMS lagging, i can keep going on and on... its clean loaded with the basic stuff that needed for the room. dont have what you want... then go here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550973 .cab THANKS jackos if u don't mind how can i go about updating the installed apps
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stanip:
sms sender autocomplete seems to be back...

Jackcos,

Love this rom. fast and stable.

Just tried out the latest version. The SMS sender autocomplete issue seems to be back. Can't select sender anymore...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Please update to SleekBASIC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stanip:
Jackos, I tried SleekBASIC but somehow the same issue with the lagging sms stays. Any advice? I don't use manila. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BeEazy10:
that why i move back to Oldschool... but the SMS lag issue is Microsoft fault every rom have the lag issue.. i think Deepshining use it his own SMS so u could ask him if he have a cab version of it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stanip:
The lagging sms is really bugging me with the new roms... moving back to cosmik 4.1. Thanks Beeasy10.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hmmhmm1222:
hello jacko, i like your appraoch, i am also one of those that need the ability to multitask, coming from the blackstone where i used a 6.1 rom with sense 2.5 i found to be a great combo. would you be willing to give that combination a spin? id would be happy to donate a couple of beers for your efforts to try :)

2.5 uses some more ram but i found when m,ultitasking, using push and some workbased apps i would at minimum still have 50% free ram and superb battery life and yet benefit from the sense 2.5 UI.

So i would be your personal fanboy if you would give it a try, i sense you try get same things from your device as my self desire to have!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
Sense 2.5 AND 50% free RAM? :O When it first boots up, it already starts at like 49% usually. Our Touch Pro 2's can't really handle it :/ Even Sense 2.1 gets kinda slow. The TouchFLO 3D approach is a great idea.

Jackos, I just reviewed your Oldschool ROM today on The Wingster, I really liked the ROM!

I just have one suggestion that I touched on slightly in the review: Add the newer HTC Album software that has the Facebook integration in it. Uploading to Facebook is such a useful feature. If you get around to updating the ROM with that sofware, update Google Maps while you're at it ;) It's missing the new Voice Search (I think it's on Version 4.0.2 now? Something like that)

But great job on the ROM! You did a nice job with WM6.1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I where developing a WM6.1+Sense2.5 ROM, but I ran into too much difficult problems that cannot be done without help from HTC. Those problems are device specific - for example: driver problems.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Thanks for the review, but the ROM development is discontinued :) I advise that you move to SleekBASIC.

The latest HTC Album 3.2 cannot be run under WM6.1. Not to mention the problem with specific facebook engine that matches both TF3D and the Album.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hmmhmm1222:
ok i see, well you have several chefs over at the HTC HD forum that did it :) so i am sure they could share some things, but i understand.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Please read carefully once again what I wrote :) Those problems are DEVICE DEPENDENT, that's probably why we don't see any S2.5+WM6.1 ROMs for Rhodium here. It just doesn't match drivers and this results in poor battery life and other problems like time synchronization, stuck clock in Sense, phone not ringing etc.

Any other questions? ;]
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hmmhmm1222:
well you are right i should have read more carefully :) sorry about that, well its a shame anyhow :) cuz it was a great combo, but we will se what happends, i wish it was as eazy to upgrade ram on phones as on laptops some days
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I know, the performance was awesome.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husam666:
This is too good to be left on a shelf collecting dust, :(

I'm downloading now will flash soon. :D

What do you use to put weather on manila home?

BTW: hotfile link is dead.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mionica:
Use my mirror...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husam666:
Thx but there's already another mirror on the 1st page :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
This rom is discontinued.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Perhaps you should point it out on the first post?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Maybe :rolleyes:

Kidding, that's a good idea. I'll do it later.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husam666:
But it's a good ROM that makes my phone run fast, I don't care if its discontinued I will still use it :D

VIVA Oldschool ROM! ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Try SleekBASIC, it's a successor to the Oldschool ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ace10134:
And it works just as well as Oldschool basically. The only thing I miss from Oldschool is the keyboard it included, it felt like a faster keyboard, and the way it handled word suggestions seemed better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mydogyuma:
Jacko,

Love your work, you are the man who know how to do it.....Thanks,

I have a Tilt 2 from ATT, I"ve run 4-5 of you roms to find the one I really like and settled on the Jack Full 2.2

When running Old School I found that I had the option on turning gsensor on or off but it only worked when I opened the keyboard.

Isn't there a cab you could make that would give US the option of turning it OFF or ON when we want?

Now that I''ve planted that thought.......

Thanks for all that work you do, don't go disappearing on us into the corporate world although you do have a gift for doing this type of work.

Use it !

Later,

David
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] spammonster:
Having this problem also. Anyone figure out how to resolve this? Did the soft reset but the problem develops again over time. Once it develops it becomes random. Sometimes I can answer and sometimes not. It's definitely frustrating. Love everything else about the rom but if I can't answer calls, I think I might have to go back to ATT stock 6.5 which I hate. For reference I also have a Tilt 2, like bsimss, using the suggested radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
This rom is discontinued. I do not provide support for it anymore. Please update to my latest S3 roms. I suggest SleekBASIC (closest to Oldschool).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] spammonster:
As much as I hate reinstalling all my apps, I'll go ahead and give it a try once you release a new version of sleekbasic(I really need to have my notes sync). Overall I have to say I like the "barebones" approach you have taken. Like my servers and computers, I like my phone running clean, fast, and with little to no eye candy.

I'll be looking forward to the next release of sleekbasic and good luck on your exams!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mionica:
Don't. SleekBASIC S3 1.0.0 doesn't have notes sync cooked in. Either wait for the next version (Jackos says it will be fixed), or get S2 2.0.2 from here.

Given the performance of S3 though, you might want to wait for the next version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] spammonster:
Thanks for the heads up. Yeah I plan on waiting until the next release. The lack of notes syncing kills it for me since I rely heavily on them. I think can wait although the periodic inability to pick up calls is annoying.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tukken:
Hello,

How about use the latest radio (Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.91.exe) on the rom.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
I tried that. Very bad for battery. In fact only 3.xxxx radios perform nice on this ROM. That's why I had to abandon it, because the 3.xxxx radios had bad reception on the other hand...

But you can certainly try some older but 4.xxxx radios, for instance 4.49.25.17 or 4.46.25.24
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Prepare for something unexpected.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Haahaaa! I can see you changed the thread title! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Had a very productive night today. After I realized that my method of developing a overclocking-underclocking rom doesn't work I found a way to fix the WM6.1 based problems. Currently I'm running a Hybrid with the latest radio that doesn't leak calls and the battery drain isn't worse then S3 series.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Of course the release if far from being perfect, I got still a lot of compatibility issues (for example bluetooth doesn't work at all), but that I'm gonna work that out for sure. Just a mater of time until I got the drivers mixed properly. It's hard work, because basically I need to review any file/module in Drivers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Good that the last time you figured out that the clock freezes because of CHT1.7.1, that's a really useful information that I'll check in the future.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
The rom is currently bugged-as-hell, but I'm fixing the bugs one by one in no time. Bluetooth working already.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Honestly I don't remember discovering the CHT 1.7.1 as a cause of the clock freezing. Especially that I had the same issue on Hybrid v6 with Sense 2.1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Didn't you tell me that CHT was the cause? 0.o

Uch, nvm, I'm currently working on a Hybrid ShowLITE - no clock freezes at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Hmmm... It was a looong time ago. I really don't remember (I guess I'm getting too old for this ****).

But as far as I remember you never had any problems with clock freezing on any version of Hybrid ROMs so you're not a best tester :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
No, no, I had some after I changed the device region/language/whatever to P(r)oland.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Hahaaa! I should know you would write that!

Anyways good luck in your tests.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Currently having fun with sorting the start menu xD
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HRQ.SLV:
These are indeed great news! :D

Do you plan to do a Sense 2.1 version?

I hope so...

I'm asking because one of the mods in the 4th post are for 2.1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Hmm, I plan a SmartMOVE EVO, no plans for SmartMOVE or SleekBASIC Hybrid. I don;t think that there is any need. S3 SmartMOVE/SleekBASIC does the job.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
PS Those mods are for Jackos Oldschool, I plan to wipe or at least rebuild the thread (together with the EVO thread with isn't complete too).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] latinohot:
do any of these roms have the start menu button on bottom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Yepp: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=989073
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] engfantom:
i see u back the tiltle again did you change your mind about hybrid rom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Jdepp. It's a pity, but I run again into a problem that has been known for ages - the phone does sometimes reset the ringtone back to standard windowsmobile sound and does not ring... It's something I cannot figure out. There must be a package/driver that is needed by Sense 2.5 and doesn't work properly on WM6.1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
That's a pity... But at least (judging by the thread title) we will have a refreshed Oldschool ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Nope, that's not possible either. Couldn't get to work a reliable dialer based on the S2 drivers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HRQ.SLV:
****, ****, ****... etc... :mad:

@ Jackos:

Thanks for trying!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I would try to work the problems with the dialer... But without the ringtone working properly it's not worth the effort. I had now about 4 attempts at making a Hybrid ROM - all failed. Every time I tried to start from the beginning, with a totally different base and build it from "another" side. Still, some errors came back, no matter what I do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Also, if you're up for a clean, fast, bla bla, bla ROM that's running TF3D then S3 SleekBASIC should do for you the trick.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Indeed it does :) But remembering the bettery reliability on the "old" Oldschool ROM I was hoping for the new one...

But... not everything is possible, or - as you wrote - worth the effort.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
It wouldn't be more reliable. Trust me. That's something I was sure. A Hybrid that I where using was like a bridge made out of glass. Just one problem and the whole driver pyramid goes to hell.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
OK, you are the chef ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HRQ.SLV:
Yes,I know.

But I'm a WM6.1 fan. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Yeah, actually me too. That's why I tried so hard. WM6.1 is the last WM system that is so... quadratic and simple. I love it. IMHO MS ****ed-up a beautiful PDA OS.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HRQ.SLV:
My thoughts exactly. :cool:

I think that with 6.5 we lose more than we gain!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
If all packages would work on WM6.1 I would still use this OS as base. For sure!

When considering buying the Rhod I used to think that I'll use the EXT packages from WM6.5 together with the WM6.1 base to make a much improved rom (I was so happy that the device had base for both systems). Heh, thoughts...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] engfantom:
man i want to try your legacy where is the links?