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[HD2 General] Kelthuzar:
Most of you who experience the big/small fonts in the sms tab please do this

There is a registry key

HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Hotfix\Messaging_Client_Versi on, and the value is "20100112-00" (after the hotfix)

I edited the value to be "20091119-00", which reflects my ROM date. After this I could apply the hotfix a second time.

Be warned that this obviously doesn't do any un-install action, just allows you to apply the patch again.

Then comment on the font.

For everyone else just read the requirments for the sms fix + dont forget its not meant to be on 6.5.3 windows mobile version. And if you have problems with it, the problem might be or i have to say is in your rom version, because it works on many of the users. We will have to wait for it to be implemented in the newer roms. Do not rush to bash HTC they did great work, try flashing other roms for instance. And i will monitor the thread closely, any feedback will be useful. AGAIN take your time and don't rush into sending messages to htc for the fix.

Happy messaging :)
[HD2 General] Starfury:
Anyone noticed that in the SenseUI email section where you can swish through emails you used to be able to tap one and it would open up... (ie it would seem to zoom into it and open the email account and load that message full screen) well that doesn't appear to work anymore, tapping on it doesnt open it anymore, you have to click Inbox softkey and tap on the email in there instead...

Is there anyway to restore this functionality or is it part of the fix...?
[HD2 General] Jammie_1989:
Installed this and a few messages didn't send yesterday. Looks like it hasn't fixed the problem on mine. :(
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
Use the original lock screen(just press once on the ,,lock,, softkey in the startmenu), see if it works after that.
[HD2 General] manuelcalavera:
inbox loading in traditional mode got slower and its kinda annoying ,

anyone ?
[HD2 General] Starfury:
Thats just messed up!

I held down the power off button to get the menu and locked the phone and then unlocked it and tap on the email and it opens it.

Whats going on with that?

Edit: Oh and sorry, I forgot to say thank you...
[HD2 General] Kelthuzar:
its a well known bug for the lock screen >< you can whine about it in htc support page :)
[HD2 General] Starfury:
I have seen the bug where the screen going into standby doesnt auto-activate the lock but I haven't seen not being able to tap open emails from Sense because of that bug before the update. Just cant see how they are related.

And I dont do whining for the record.
[HD2 General] Starfury:
Does that mean we dont need the calendar view fix anymore?
[HD2 General] gohyc:
Although I am able to install the fix successfully on Flashmore ROM v2.2, and I did not encounter the font issue nor the email preview issue reported by some, but it did not fix the "message stuck in outbox" issue!!! I just found 3 messages stucked in my outbox!!

As for the speed of the threaded conversation loading and the message count indicator, this is already seen in 1922xxxx version of Manila (custom ROMs), so it is nothing new, at least not new in this fix.

HTC description of the fix isn't clear, so we have no idea what the fix does exactly. It is getting annoying to get fix from HTC that did not only not address the issues users are facing, but also trying to disguise the faults by some flowery phrases. We are like guinea pigs helping HTC to test the fixes. What the heck is their testing team doing?

Looks like we are back to square one! :(
[HD2 General] dragosj:
press windows button on your phone then lock. After that the email will work. :)

At least for me on orig. ROM.
[HD2 General] Lindenia:
Same here. Had to debug mail tab and autolock a few times before in this way, always after ROM updates and hotfixes from the htc site.
[HD2 General] weichei:
ROM 1.66 - gonna hope for a stock rom release soon!

HTC wrote: "Note: This update is only applicable to ROM version is equal to 1.66.XXX.X, or lower!"

So maybe, only maybe, we can expect a new generation of official stock rom relaese soon! Something like v1.67 with radion v1.07.xx.xx!

But maybe I am only dreaming....... :p
[HD2 General] Yes!:
PIM backup seems to conflict with SMS hotfix

I tried to get rid of the GSM-tag by restoring the messages from a backup i made with PIM backup prior to applying the hotfix.

Result:

It seems that have killed the SMS messaging application. The thing is reaaallyyy slooooww now and the old messages are not visible in the detail screen any more.....

Some messages are tagged with "-GSM". They contain the contacts picture.

From the same contacts some messages don't have the "-GSM" tag. They don't have the contacts picture.

I also tried restoring the backup that i have made after applying the hotfix, but the results are equal.

I'm seeing this as a necessary opportunity to flash a cooked ROM now... :D
[HD2 General] omar302:
Try to lock your phone - Start Menu - left soft key "LocK" & then unlock your phone. This worked for me.
[HD2 General] littlemumford:
wipe phone?

hey,

Does in stalling this wipe the ROM or is it just a partial upgrade?

cheers
[HD2 General] Yes!:
It's just a hotfix. Nothing gets wiped. ;)
[HD2 General] miri:
Or 1.66 could be with Windows Mobile 6.6, as this version of update is compatible with WM 6.5.X :D
[HD2 General] mirroalex:
The patch has been removed from htc website(new sms function update) but i don't know why?anybody here can confirm this ???
[HD2 General] arxx:
It's still aviable at the Norwegian site (and haven't heard it should be taken away either): http://www.htc.com/no/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=849&news_id=475
[HD2 General] Starfury:
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=849

UK site too, maybe your browser cache need CTRL-F5'ing
[HD2 General] Lindenia:
Has it? I still see it on the UK site

Sorry just found out I can't link it, I'm a new user so not allowed to post links :mad:

But then again, I didn't see it on the site yesterday when others said they did... hard refresh and all. Maybe your browser cash doesnt get an update for some reason.

Edit: Starfury just linked it anyway so no big loss, that no-links-for-new-users-who-wanna-help-someone-out-restriction.
[HD2 General] Marwyn:
Available on UK site

on UK site is still up (download it right now)
[HD2 General] cg3769:
New Patch does not fix the issue

Ran this patch for a day , and today it was not sending again today :-(

Spoke to HTC UK, and they confirmed a new ROM is due to fix several issues including this one but as of yet they will not give a release date.
[HD2 General] arxx:
One more stuck in the outbox, so it seems that even the 2nd. sms hotfix didn't give me a reliable phone after all :( :(

sending the logfile to HTC...
[HD2 General] SOLRAC13:
HTC HD2 messages get stuck in the outbox

I am just wandering, about the stuck message in the out box, maybe this could be the reason.

I personally never play games with my phone, and never had the stuck message bug before.

But I start playing with the experiment 13 game for a long while and the message bug came just after i had a crash and read an error of the game and was asking me to send the report ect ect....... So i was thinking that this could be related to some RAM issue

Any way just trying to figure out what the cause is, but it should be HTC and not us figering this out is really a shame so many bugs on this device.

They keep on sending us FIX for the PINK Spot in camera, Fix for the sms message, stil waiting the fix for the distortion noise and loud volume

And hope they can send us a fix for our wallet, cause I think many of us are going to have to buy A NEW devise And yes That is not going to fix HTC :pbecause it will not be HTC
[HD2 General] arxx:
It absolutely might have something to do with ram or something. I feel like it always works after a fresh reboot, but after running for some hours it fails...
[HD2 General] SOLRAC13:
HTC HD2 messages get stuck in the outbox

Yes it has been removed, and it was there 3 hours ago, :cool: so that confirms that this patch is not good at all, wish they tell us how to uninstall it since it does not appear on uninstall program. :(

HTC you are getting less brilliant day by day :eek:
[HD2 General] Lindenia:
Nonsense, as me and others said the patch is still on the HTC websites; Starfury a few posts up even posted a link. I just checked, the link still works too. The patch is fine, it just doesnt solve the send sms bug (but HTC never said it does!) but it does solve the problems many people had with long waiting times when opening sms inbox/sent/outbox etc.

HTC still did an awesome job and I bet they're still working on the sms send bug. HD2 is still the best device ever too.
[HD2 General] SOLRAC13:
HTC HD2 messages get stuck in the outbox

No is not UK site is been removed >>> http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
[HD2 General] SOLRAC13:
HTC HD2 messages get stuck in the outbox on top of all the other bugs

Oh I am sure you get pay by HTC to talk like that , or even worst you don't even own a Leo........ Because if you did and you had some experience with relabel phones you would write this way :cool:
[HD2 General] bdb25:
Download still available on the UK site as far as I can see.

Rang HTC and the person I spoke to denied all knowledge of the fact this update hasn't worked, he told me I'm the first person that it hasn't worked for, somehow I doubt this?!
[HD2 General] pgatti@hotmail.com:
i update it and everything is exellent , it solve a lot of things , but is has one bug, no it dosen t auto start the screen when i get a new sms, the positive side is that i don t drain your batery, you just turn the screen on and thats it, don t try to solve it re installing hot fix sms 1 , because i try and sms went everything wrong , size of letters and they were broken, and i couldn t fix it, just hard reset and everything is perfect but the screen bug, that i don t care..... hope to help.....
[HD2 General] Lindenia:
Click the link Starfury gave you:

I dunno why you cant see the fix on the htc page but it's really really still there and it works. You're the only one who seems unable to find the update so stop blaming HTC.

No I dont get payed by HTC or anyone else but my boss (who got nothing to do with any telephone brand in the world). Yes I got a HD2 and it beats any other Wimo device OR the iphone on tweakability and performance in any way possible. Me and others tried to help you but if you dont want to read any reply or use any offered link that's your decision.
[HD2 General] i1magic:
From some user feedback .... sms is still stucked after the patch.
[HD2 General] pgatti@hotmail.com:
no one has the screen bug, that after the new hot fix, it don t auto turn on the screen when i get a new sms?
[HD2 General] loomx:
All I can say is, I have never had the sms stuck bug :) and this has fixed the lag when open issue, So my HD2 is now perfect!
[HD2 General] manuelcalavera:
nobody has slower traditional inbox load ?
[HD2 General] SOLRAC13:
Good for you , you are one of the lucky ones, that don't have any bugs :)

Me I got them all :eek:

At the beginning i say to me be patient is a software issue but now I think is an HTC issue :cool:

Sheer by the way I am happy that you are satisfy with your devise :)
[HD2 General] arxx:
got a reply from Norwegian support:

Du sendte oss nylig en forespørsel om din enhet, angående sms feil.

Den nye sms fixen som her netopp kommet ut, skal virke fint.. Prøv en hard reset, og installer din nye hotfixen igjen. Når det gjelder loggen, sent tilbake hele errorrep mappen.

it says that the new sms fix should also work with the outbox issue, and that I should try hard reset. gonna do that later. annyone else done a full hard reset before apply the patch?

they also want me to send the content of the folder wich the error report sms.cab made, but that is containg the acctual text in my sent items, they arent gonna get those
[HD2 General] Jammie_1989:
Just trying a hard reset now. Moved FPSece with my GT2 into the storage card as took me ages to get licenses B & A lol hope this helps with do that then install hotfix first.
[HD2 General] omershahab:
Using factory default HTC 1.48 ROM

Just called HTC and they were no help, as expected. Told me to do a factory reset and retry the hotfix.
[HD2 General] CRXed:
Then why did you install the error report.cab when you are not sendin those reports to HTC?

I you don't help, it will only take longer for HTC to fix this :mad:

They will only see the first few words of a sms, not the entire message.
[HD2 General] mightymn:
I do! I actually "did" coz now I've reverted to a full backup before installing it. the text was also so small in traditional mode that it nearly hurt my eyes. But I miss one thing, the ability to have the deleted messages, immediately deleted.
[HD2 General] CRXed:
Like I said in a previous posts, installing the fix for a second time, does not help with the small font in Traditional sms mode
[HD2 General] manuelcalavera:
i have that immediate delete,

you mean that theres no option in there for you to activate the immediate delete ?
[HD2 General] mavisdavis:
14.01.2010 fix works for me

UK O2 Stock rom works like a treat.. now I can respond to my wifes text bashings.. have over 400 texts from her and its was really really lagging using SWYPE too.. now I tell her to shut up immediatly lol ;-) also not had any send bug (as yet)
[HD2 General] mightymn:
There was an option after installing this new hotfix; but now I've restored a backup from before installing it, since it was slow and with small text :o

And moreover, it seemed like my delivery messages were coming too late with this hotfix
[HD2 General] nutmegy:
guys some people have mentioned about the text size changing.

well on this very forum someone has find a fix to reduce the size again.

change in registry

HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/HTC MESSAGING/font scale (I think) to 5. the smallest view will then work.

I will edit my post later to give credit to the user who discovered it.
[HD2 General] arxx:
well,because i've read at another post, a quote from htc that no personal data are beeing transmitted... wich isn't the case...
[HD2 General] Jack E:
Works perfectly now on my Miri 6.5 v2.0 :)
[HD2 General] liumingd:
This fix doesn't help.

What I've found out is, when you reboot your phone, send another message, then all messages in Outbox will be sent.

So it also depends how often you reboot your phone: you always charge it before it shuts down itself OR you only charge it after it shuts down.
[HD2 General] DaneFTO:
Guy's

I tried to install the cab above and all I get is this message

"Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions"

Any thoughts?

Also, I still can't send sms, I know, someone else mentioning this but it is really starting to pee me off with otherwise a great rom. Also, how do I get to the WM client for sms?

cheers.
[HD2 General] xwaiz:
after clicking on an email at Manila screen, it no longer opens that email. I don't remember if this is changed after installing this SMS fix. Any one can advise? Thanks.
[HD2 General] omershahab:
For those who succesfully installed it, how long is it taking you guys to install?

I had 18K SMS messages I had transferred from my old phone to my HD2 and tried installing the Hotfix but it would stay installing forever so I just soft reset the phone.

I finally managed to delete all those 18K messages and am trying to install this hotfix again...it's still taking a while.
[HD2 General] teslapolaris:
I've tried out this and a few other registry setting. All of them affected the HTC Messaging "Conversation Mode". I was looking for registry setting that will change the font size for "Traditional Mode" but could not find any. :(
[HD2 General] omershahab:
Worked for me after deleting those 18,000+ messages!

Everything is running smoothly now and this phone is feeling more like what I expected.
[HD2 General] CRXed:
It's a known bug after installing hotfixes: just manually lock the phone once (start - lock) and after that it will work again.
[HD2 General] xwaiz:
Thanks! The trick works!!!
[HD2 General] kasmankk:
patch installed BUT...

it didn't work. Still have stuck sms.

even worse, the font became too big.

I had to disable HTC Messaging.
[HD2 General] CRXed:
Please email HTC about the problem not being solved!

I did it too. If more people complain, they might fix it sooner.
[HD2 General] s32bauer:
Not being able to see what you're writing!

I think the main issue that's bugging me about this new hotfix, is the fact that it highlights previous messages, meaning that I cannot see the text box and what I'm writing; I have to scroll down everytime I open an SMS to reply to it.

Does anyone know of how to resolve this?
[HD2 General] gohyc:
+1 I called HTC Customer Support to feedback on this latest fix and told them it doesn't do a thing to fix the SMS issue (not that I understand exactly what the fix is suppose to do to begin with, with that kinda description). Told the customer rep that I have no idea what all the updates suppose to fix given that kind of descriptions HTC uses to describe the updates.
[HD2 General] kjettern:
The new fix fixes something but didn't fix the sms being stuck in outbox... need to reboot phone and send another sms to get the sms going.. Seems like HTC removed the update from their website aswell? At least here in norway?
[HD2 General] nikc0069:
I haven't had the stuck sms bug, just the slow load one. Has anyone got the fix that they can upload here?
[HD2 General] romek13:
Sadly, I can confirm that, too. Since I've installed this fix, I wait for delivery report even one day and it comes with another one - SMS was sent a minute ago...

Exactly, when you start typing your new message just after conversation mode opens, it suddenly highlights last message and interrupts typing...

1.43 ROM WWE.
[HD2 General] dan_ep82:
i had no stuck sms issue before this new sms hotfix but i have now! lol i rang HTC uk and apparently a new sms hotfix will be released tomorrow to address the stuck sms issue..... we shall see
[HD2 General] uccoffee:
I got a reply from HTC (HK)

" Thank you for your reply and status update. The content of our website and the software update is readjusting currently and we would release the new SMS function update by the end of February, 2010. We feel very sorry for the inconvenience it may cause to you regarding to the SMS function. We would inform you again when the software update is available. Thank you! "

End of FEB? another month wait... OMG
[HD2 General] dagrim1:
Wow, end of february... this is pretty sucky. Luckily I don't experience the sms-problem of the stuck messages (*knocks on wood*), only the extremely slow loading which was fixed with this one...

But it IS pretty sad that these months after release this still isn't fixed.
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Seems like HTC's Pinch-to-zoom (TouchGL) is busted when an SMS gets stuck!

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/01/18/htc-takes-down-latest-hd2-sms-hotfix/
[HD2 General] literal:
On my HD2 on the other hand, the SMS stuck in outbox problem is gone after I installed the last hotfix.

I used to get that problem every day. I could 15-20 sms without a problem and they would get stuck in the outbox. Only a restart and a new SMS would force them to be send normally.

After the hotfix (I installed it as soon as it was released, 5 days ago) I dont have the problem anymore. I've sent 100+ sms so far without restarting the phone and all of them were sent immediately without any problems.
[HD2 General] niteowl360:
SMS to Outbox, opening mail, deleting sms

SMS to Outbox

This issue only occurred AFTER I installed the first update in December.

I removed the update and all seems fine so far!

Opening Mail

This also affected by update (or maybe 1.48 ROM)

Using a different background (not default) seemed to fix this.

May have been related to Lock, Unlock though!

Deleting SMS

Deleting in one step without going to Deleted Folder. This is still not available to me.

Seems the new SMS update may fix, but frankly, not worth the SMS sending problems that may reoccur!

Best device I have ever owned, but Bill must be getting a bit annoyed with all my error sends. Wonder if they really are free! Knowing MS, prob NOT :)

HTC Not seemingly always 'brilliant', but the quiet part is still apt!
[HD2 General] stephen2529:
hi guys

ive just installed the 1.66 rom and all these sms problems seem to have gone. its really nice to have it all working as it should. one thing that is bugging me though is the way it lays it out in conversation mode. it lists all my replys at the top of the screen and all the other persons at the bottom. is there a way to get it to stagger the conversation? like my text their text my text their text and so on. did have it like this on the old 1.43 rom? i can remember now.

would installing this new fix with the new rom be worth it. the way i read it on the htc site was for roms bellow 1.66 not including? i may well be wrong here though
[HD2 General] stephen2529:
wow not ten minutes after putting this post up my phone started staggering the msgs on its own. i didnt touch a thing. i have a conversation of 50 msgs on the last 6 are now fine. i heard you guys where good on here but my god that was a quick fix! and with no replys lol

very strange
[HD2 General] bibbe:
i have 1.66.xx rom on my htc and it says not compatible:eek:
[HD2 General] ramthor:
Odd thing! After I installed this hotfix my SMS system got hotfucked up. Now when I try to reply to a SMS in conversation mode my text is so tiny that I can barely read it. All text from previus messages is ok but the text I'm typing in reply is waaaay too small. Is this a joke from HTC or what? I'm not laughing though...

Is there a way of getting rid of this garbage of a hotfix? Uninstall page isn't much of a help without proper names for hotfixes.
[HD2 General] ramthor:
Any ideas on how to remove it?
[HD2 General] mox123:
clear all your existing sms, wipe them and start fresh, it is always recommended to do this as this is a major sms update
[HD2 General] ramthor:
I've wiped them all but the problem is still there. When I reply to a message or when I choose a contact from agenda and choose to send SMS to that person then the text I'm writing is very very small, almost unreadable. And is it set on medium size. If I'm trying to write a SMS without choosing an expeditor prior to the typing of the message then the text is normal in size. Any ideas about what makes it be this way? I'm on a romanian ROM. May it be this the incompatibility issue?
[HD2 General] barbapappa_86:
From HTC.com:

"Note: This update is only applicable to ROM versions less than 1.66.XXX.X."
[HD2 General] ramthor:
I have 1.48 ROM wich is less than 1.66
[HD2 General] bibbe:
i have rom 1.66.707
[HD2 General] nsx_23:
I installed this update on my phone, and now I'm getting friends telling me that certain characters from my SMSs show up as square blocks....
[HD2 General] pvox123:
Problems...

OK, have any of you guys noticed the following issues with this hot fix:

1. Delivery receipts are now considered as regular messages, meaning they will be counted by the application and also by S2U2. Previously, this was not the case, they would show up and reproduce the SMS sound (as they should) but were not counted as a new SMS.

2. When starting to type a reply, one of the previous messages will be marked and you will have to reclick inside the reply area in order for the on screen keyboard to show up again.

3. When sending messages to multiple recipients, they will permanently show up as unread without an option to mark them as read.

On the other hand, I have not (yet) had issues with messages stuck in the outbox. I am, however, quite dissapointed with HTC, not only for this still not completely resolved issue, but for many other as well.