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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoonS_BR:
GT-I5500B - Backup&Restore - /boot and /recovery, WHERE ??????

Hi,

This is my very first post. I am a total newbie regarding smartphones and even more regarding Android. 3 weeks ago I acquired a GT-I5500B (Samsung Galaxy 5). The phone itself is very good and the OS fits well on it. As curious as I am, I started poking around and found lots of good things about android devices like, rooting, flash Custom Roms, Images backups and recovery. Soon I found that was was supposed to be an easy and fun task like applying custom roms and OS upgrades are indeed quite hard to figure out. I give credit to the word 'Hard' to the carriers that like to make things as obscure as possible so for an OS upgrade you should get a new device. Seems that this is the problem with mine (I5500B).

They went so far that they removed the possibility of rebooting in recovery mode just by pressing a buttom combo (Power + Home + Volume Up). The recovery image is there, garanteed. It can be accessed by using 'adb reboot recovery'. The menu is quite simple and doesn't have the Backup, Restore option. Also, as a side note, I'd like to add that I have a feeling that a simple configuration change would make this work because while trying to enter in

recovery mode the screen hangs at the GT-I5500B logo and doesn't go further until I release the phone buttons. It is like if it was trying to find the boot and/or recovery partitions but couldn't...

I was checking up the OS installation on the device. I am somewhat skilled in linux so navigating through the shell was pretty familiar. For my surprise the /boot and /recovery partitions don't show up.

I would love to start playing around with my phone but I have a few questions before I do that.

1) From what I've been reading seems that there is no way I can perform an image backup without flashing a custom recovery image. IS this true ?? Isn't there another way of performing a Full backup before starting flashing things around ??

2) If there's no way to make a full phone backup before flashing, I think the appropriate way to push back the stock OS is by using the ODIN method (Download mode has not been disabled on I5500B), right ?? If so, how can I find the stock rom for my device ??

3) Do you have any idea if I can mount the recovery and boot partitions so I can take a look at their contents ?? Or even backup those partitions to an external drive. How can I find out on what device they are on ?

Any kind of answer, documentation pointing, blog, any new information helps...

Thanks,

SoonS_BR
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brettbellaire:
I'm sure someone will come along that knows much more than I, but I can get you started. Sometimes you can root with unlocking the bootloader, in which case you will be able to do a proper backup before flashing anything. I think sometimes it is also possible to do a temporary root, that doesn't stick after reboot, and that would suffice for you as well maybe, to get the backup and then do things properly. But, since this is the Nexus 1 forum, I don't know any specifics about your phone. I did a quick search, and it looks like there might be stuff out there (universal androot????)

superoneclick does the trick if it supports your phone. I see GT-I5510 on the list, pretty close :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=803682
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoonS_BR:
Hi brettbellaire,

Thanks for replying. I posted it here because this seemed to be a generic thread... My apologies, I will post this in a more appropriate thread.

Tried the UniversalRoot but didn't work very well as busybox didn't get installed properly. Then I used SuperOneClick to get root access and busybox properly installed.

Thanks again...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brettbellaire:
I didn't mean to say you were in the wrong place, just that I didn't know much about your particular phone. I'm not one to give a hard time to people who are just trying to learn and solve problems.

That said, so if you have root access is your problem solved?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoonS_BR:
No worries... Didn't feel that your were trying give me a hard time. Just trying to make things as right as possible.

Maybe I need to redo the whole post. I am reading it again got a little mixed up by technical issues and disappointment regarding the phone manufacturers (Samsung in this case) in trying to lock everything. Android should mean freedom. So we should be able to upgrade our OS as we like. It is going to work everytime ??? No... But a lot less problem would come from this if the phones were unlocked and comply with some kind of standard for the OS itself. Although I don't agree with the commercial tactics behind this, I can understand the decision. But I am pretty sure that we will see in a few years from now smartphones being sold by the hardware features, with an stock OS (any mobile OS) but with the user having the right of changing the OS without voiding the warranty.

Now, back to my "problem".

Let me ask the basics first:

Having my phone successfully rooted, am I able to perform a FULL Backup ? Like taking a snapshot of the phone as it is. What would be the procedure to create this backup and do the restore ? (Without flashing anything)

Regards,

SoonS_BR
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brettbellaire:
Gotcha. That's easy. Titanium Backup. I would suggest to get confirmation, because I haven't actually done this. But I'm pretty sure after a wipe it restores everything back to normal. From my understanding, it doesn't miss anything.

Find it in the market.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoonS_BR:
Thanks again...

I already have the Titanium Backup (Free Version) and it seems to be only for apps, not the ROM... But I will check to see if the full version has this option.

Regards,

SoonS_BR
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brettbellaire:
It will back up your apps, data, and settings. What do you mean ROM, like it will replace the ROM? No it won't do that. You flash the ROM, then restore your backup and you will have everything.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrabbani:
Root help please

When I do adb oem ulcok, it completes and shows bootloader unlocked. I flash Amon's recovery (adb flash) and looks like it successfully completes. But when I try to boot it into recover, I don't see amon's recovery. I see triangle and push some buttons and then I see recovery where I can pick a file to flash doesn't flash radio update.zip file Unsigned error.Not sure if that recovery is Amon's recovery, doesn't say, I tried room manger from market and it says 'your phone in not unlocked'. On fastboot I see bootloader unlocked. Please help...

2.3.3 (GRI40)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danger-rat:
You're getting your fastboot and adb commands all mixed up.

fastboot oem unlock

NOT

adb oem unlock

fastboot flash...

OR

adb flash_image...

Check twice on everything you are doing...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrabbani:
Thank you for reply, I got that part right while doing it, just made mistake explaining. Is there a reason for Amon's Recovery image not coming up even when I see in command promt successfull for flash command?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danger-rat:
You have to boot straight into recovery, without rebooting the phone (use the on phone menu and select BOOTLOADER> RECOVERY)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrabbani:
That is what I did, it went to screen with exclamation triangle. It sits there. Few times I tried pushing volume up/down power and it would take me to blue recovery menu where I can select a file to flash. But that menu doesn't look like Amon's. I don't even know what it should look like, It says Android system recovery (3e).
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrabbani:
Thank you, That is what I missed, not rebooting after flashing Amon's recovery worked. Not sure why I missed it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joe_the_man:
Android Revolution HD

I've installed and running Android Revolution HD on my Desire HD (Inspire), I now need to install the radio image. I've downloaded the package and the read me file says to hold the volume down and press power to enter bootloader mode, This ain't working, I've also tried adb reboot bootloader from the command prompt. Still not working. Any ideas how I can get this installed? I have no sound at all! Please help!!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smittstarr:
I only wish I'd found this thread earlier!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roman_:
Hello. Just got around trying to root my Nexus One (Gingerbrad) today. I finally got the SDK part right, as my computer (Vista) recognizes it. But in Fastboot I can't get it to show the device.

I installed the drivers. Changed the system path. In cdm I type from the changed system path and from the directory fastboot is in with no luck. I also tried moving the fastboot file to the root directory.

(In another note: I also tried rolling it back to froyo FRG33 naming the file passimg.zip in the root of my SD card and trying to "update" but nothing happened.)

Any help in finally unlocking the bootloader so I can install a different rom? Any method would be welcomed.

Thanks in advanced.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danger-rat:
What errors are you getting?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roman_:
None. Just goes back to the root cdm line. Nothing happens.

Thanks for replying.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danger-rat:
Thereare two drivers for the phone. One is a generic usb mass media driver, which is used for spring files on your SD. The other driver is for the adb/fastboot interfaces. I suspect you just have the mass media driver right now...

Make sure your phone is at the fastboot screen, then connect it to the pc, and see if the pc recognizes it...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roman_:
It does and it shows up in the device manager, nexus one bootloader.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danger-rat:
But no response when you type "fastboot devices"?

Try rebooting the phone and PC...

I've heard that installing PDAnet will also help with device recognition...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roman_:
OK, let me try that. Thanks.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roman_:
It's always the stupidest thing. I decides to download all the files again and then it worked. It was probably a corrupt fastboot file.

Thank you for your help. I'll continue with the process now.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roman_:
I just can´t catch a break. Now it gets stuck on formatting cache when installing the radio.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danger-rat:
How are you trying to install the radio?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roman_:
I finally got it using superboot. It's a lot easier. Thank you for responding. Hope I wasn't much of a pain.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krezo1987:
Hi everyone i need some help, please...i can use adb commands, but when I try to use fastboot commands I get this:

'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

What am I doing wrong?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joerusama:
Thank you for this. Saves me the job of searching all over the boards

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neardood1:
Hey this may sound like a stupid question, but with the whole ADB thing, how do you actually use it/ where is it when you install the Android SDK. I'm trying to downgrade my Legend's OS from 2.2 to 2.1 so i can root it, but the instructions http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1082362 say to "Open a terminal window in your /tools/ directory. Type this at the prompt: Code: crackin.bat" How do i do this, i've tried using cmd to run the bat file but it says adb is not recognized as an internal or external command, ect. How do i use this console the guide talks about to use ADB and the crackin batch file?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suncityrk:
what all images can be tested only recovery or what you test before deciding rom?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] angel_tan:
if u wipe,does that mean your gonna erase all the data on your phone?specially the music,pictures,games and other apps?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dude Random21:
No if you wipe the SD card will stay intact the only thing that will be affected are the /data and /cache partitions one the phones internal memory.

So out of what you mentioned only the apps and games would be deleted the music and pictures would stay intact.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vortex147:
What can be a reason of impossibility to successfully "fastboot boot boot.img"?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dude Random21:
Why are you trying to fastboot boot boot.img and also do you have the appropriate files in the appropriate directories.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vortex147:
Of course it exist.

fastboot says: "downloading 'boot.img'...

OKAY [ 1.116s]

booting...

FAILED (remote: incomplete bootimage)"

P.S. Partition table doesn't exist.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sangkelana:
Thanks for the information, i would like to try it now.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mudhi:
Thank you seraph, your very clear explanation helps me a lot.

A few noob questions.

When I unlock the SPL/Bootloader, which also means S-off, now I'll be able to flash custom ROM or modify/add/del system partition etc, also update RADIO, is this correct?

A custom ROM isn't include recovery partition?

Will I able to flash Stock ROM to make the phone out of factory defaults includes all partitions includes S-ON and original recovery partition so that I can receives OTA?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dude Random21:
Well when you unlock the bootloader on the nexus one (other than with the XTC clip) you keep s-on but you will be able to flash custom ROMs, recoveries and new radio and hboot versions.

No when you flash a ROM you keep the same recovery as you had before you flashed it.

Using the passimg method you can set everything back to stock except the bootloader it will stay unlocked but you will get OTA updates.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] H a R 0:
These really helps a lot. Much thanks! :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BattousaiTMS86:
Nexus 1 SPL

Is there an engineering SPL available for the nexus one. I am trying to use fastboot te restore nandroid backup files and erase old boot.img files. When I do this it reads remote: not allowed......any ideas?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jaxbot:
I was on Twitter, and people were discussing some of the biggies of Windows Mobile 7, with some rumors and all.

One of the things mentioned was hand gestures. I was curious about this, and thought about my Fuze's ambient light sensor, so I thought I'd give this a shot :D

It's proof of concept, but what do you guys think?

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_JAFskYwME
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] michd43:
Nice work!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kryptech:
Impressive! I see you're using only vertical gestures in the video but I suppose horizontal gestures would be possible too?

It looks like this is running on Windows Mobile 6.5 with TF3D2? I don't know if that effects things - I'm on stock WinMo 6.1 with TF3D1 but would be interested in trying out something like this. I'm a noob at serious development but I'd be happy to help test if at all needed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jaxbot:
Well, it's complicated. I'm going to work on designing some more gestures, but all the device can see is that SOMETHING went over it, it can't tell direction, size, etc. So really it's a pattern issue.

Windows Mobile 6.5.3, using HTC Sense. However, none of that really matters, because it is simply simulating key press's.

I'll work on it a bit today, and hopefully release a build with more than one gesture, for people to play with.

Cheers!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jaxbot:
Here's a zip file with the EXE and DLL in it, copy them onto your device and run them.

It's glitchy, and BY NO MEANS ready for normal use, but it's a pretty good Proof of Concept.

http://windowsphonehacker.jaxbot.com/files/Gestures.zip
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kryptech:
I gave this a try but didn't have much success. A few times (maybe 4 or 5) it did move as though up/down were pressed but I wasn't able to find a way to duplicate it. I tried different lighting, speeds, and directions but to no effect. I've tinkered with the sensitivity too.

Is there any particular place to which these 2 files should be copied? I had them in a folder in \Program Files\ and also \Windows\

I do have the KforTouchPro_v1.0.0.3 driver installed so I can make the hard keys. (showthread.php?p=2791652). I don't know if this would make a difference.

My Touch Pro is a CDMA phone with Telus up in Canada, FYI.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jaxbot:
As I said, it's highly proof of concept and extremely hard to use. I have a higher success rate, simply because I know all the timings.

Where you copy doesn't matter, I like mid-sensitivity and a wave that allows my arm to fully block out light for a one-half to one-fourth of a second.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kryptech:
I'll try some more with it then. Actually, it was a bit annoying because my mom saw me waving my hands over the phone and when she tried it responded right away! But she wasn't able to get it to work a second time...

As I understand, I just run gesture.exe then I can open another program (like TouchFlo or the program folder) and then your program will emulate key presses as it detects the correct shadow patterns.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jaxbot:
Yes, that is how it works. On the screen (after opening Gesture.exe), there's some numbers, Cur and Avg. What range are they in? It might be too dark where you are for it to see a difference.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] madsurfer1:
Any update on this?

Ty
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jaxbot:
I've been a little preoccupied lately (school...), but so far it seems it's a bit too unpredictable. Not to mention it requires a lot of light.

I'll mess around with it and see if I can't get some better results.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] annalee:
Am I still stuck?

I have G1 and Magic, and G1 is running on Android 1.6 ... but the battery life is really not up to standard. On the other hand, Magic has good battery life but I am stuck!

My magic:

SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT-1.76.0007(SAPP10000)

CPLD-12

RADIO-6.35.07.29

Is there anyway to fix this?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Ace42:
G1 has smaller batt capacity compared to magic in other words the matt holds less.Which explains short life.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] march83:
sorry, are you looking for a way to solve your poor battery life issues with the g1, or are you trying to revert from the 1.76 SPL and 6.35 radio back to standard?

for the former, you are in the wrong section.

for the latter see this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=605239
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] AltDimension:
If you've got to this stage using the RUU there is currently no way to downgrade. That SPL is perfected.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Grimms:
?

Hi, have you tried the gold card method?

i hade perfect spl, but i was able to fix this with this method..

Look in here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=547133
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cursordroid:
Gold card method will fail when trying to apply the 2.53.707.2 SAPPIMG with an error stating 'main version is older'

You have to wait until a newer version Engineering ROM is available from HTC. Or maybe a new kernel exploit on 2.6.27 will be found...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Grimms:
Oki, it was just a proposal..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] annalee:
Thanks guys...

I guess I will just have to keep checking HTC website... and no I really wasn't looking for a fix for the battery life on G1 coz G1 now mostly resides in my draw .. I only use magic now but very frustrated with being stuck in 1.5 while I see my old G1 can run on 1.6! (or above) : (
[Nexus One Accessories] Fresh50:
I just put my order in!

Here
[Nexus One Accessories] snoopstah:
Are these the static cling type of screen protectors?
[Nexus One Accessories] Fresh50:
Nope, they are the peal and stick type. The plastic is a bit thicker so they are not as flimsy and are easy to apply. Best I have ever used. The one I put on my g1 is still on there.
[Nexus One Accessories] H0CKEY:
their shipping charge is a JOKE!!
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
How much is it?
[Nexus One Accessories] Yaotl:
was $5.90 first class to ny. I'll wait off until there's a cheaper alternative.
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
Wow... I bought my Phantom Skinz, which is a 2 pack for $5.97 shipped with their discount. In fairness though, I have used and really like the Seidio protector. You can wait, as they often have discount codes and free shipping... the product is worth the money though... it will last quite a while and has a great feel.
[Nexus One Accessories] H0CKEY:
i got a quote of $9.23 USD i recall for shipping to canada so cost of the protector and shipping and US to CAD = close to $20.00

I can garantie if i ordered and recieved the item the postage paid on the package/envelope would be no more than $2.50
[Nexus One Accessories] Bicster_:
Removed dead coupon code
[Nexus One Accessories] Fresh50:
I tried that, it ended Jan 13th.
[Nexus One Accessories] Bicster_:
Oops, sorry. It says ended on the 15th - I thought it was sent on the 15th. I need less coffee, more sleep :D
[Nexus One Accessories] damienallen:
I ordered one over the weekend for 13.85 shipped. I'll be sure to review it once it comes in. Also, I can't stand wet-application screen protectors, so I'll see how this fares.
[Nexus One Accessories] metallicant:
I can't take worrying about scratching my screen anymore so I finally took the plunge. I ordered the 2 pack for a whopping $20.67 shipped. I'll let everyone know how good they really are once I apply one to my screen.
[Nexus One Accessories] un1ucky:
umm, not to be mean. any reason why you need a screen protector when the screen itself on the nexus one is scratch resistance?
[Nexus One Accessories] march7th:
you just answered your question. It is scratch resistant not proof
[Nexus One Accessories] metallicant:
Exactly. I already have a light surface scratch on my screen
[Nexus One Accessories] s15274n:
Anyone know a code for seidio?
[Nexus One Accessories] Fresh50:
My order shipped today!

Your order has shipped. (Order#: XXXXXX placed on 1/16/2010)
[Nexus One Accessories] ollie6286:
i just got my 2 pack in the mail today and failed to apply both of them and got dust/lint stuck on the adhesive side. talked to seidos online customer service and they're sending me another 2 pack as a one time courtesy! hopefully i dont mess thsoe up.
[Nexus One Accessories] uansari1:
The hardest part in installing the Seidio is getting every minute particle of dust off the screen first. I don't know about you guys, but this seems to me to be the biggest dust magnet of any phone I've ever had! I wipe it with microfiber, and within 2 seconds, there's more ultra fine dust on the screen.

Anyway, once you get it clean, hold the protector buy the little tab extension that they should have included on the backing strip... gently start peeling the backing paper off the opposing side and just expose one edge of the protector. Then start "rolling" it on as you slowly pull the backing paper off. Should come out perfect as long as it's cut properly.

By the way, how well IS this product cut? Is it short in width and/or height like the other screen protectors seem to be?