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[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
A small review of the Sunno S650 T5388++ dual sim, focusing on its dual sim integration with windows mobile. Probably also applicable to its smaller sibling S628 T5388i, but possibly not all all applicable on competitor phone TOPS A1.

The dual sim function is reasonably nicely skinned into the phone. The dialer has 2 dial buttons. The caller history screen has an icon for each call to indicate which SIM was used, and responds well.

Once you go into deeper screens, like contact details, or contact editing, those functions have no more 'sim awareness' so calls go out via sim1. So it is difficult to dial to 'alternate' numbers for a contact with sim2. Using VolDpad you can work around this by selecting alternative numbers with left-right from the main dialer.

The SMS messaging is also skinned, but less nicely. When you first look at the SMS messages, it is dog-slow, but does have icons before each message to indicate the SIM used. After a short while however, these disappear and the message center is fast again. I suspect the skin causes the slowness, at some point crashes, and then it works like the default windows message center again. In any case, it takes a soft-reset to get the icons (and slowness) back.

Other utilities are which SIM to use as default GPRS/EDGE connection, a program to name SIM1 and SIM2, a program to set caller forwarding for each SIM separately and a flight mode program to en/disable SIM1/SIM2/WIFI/BLUE separately.

Also important to note is that when I used a different utility to go into flight mode (SPB Mobile Shell), this 'forgot' to disable sim2. More importantly, when I next try to enable sim1 again, it did not work. It would show the signal strength, but not operate properly. Not even when I used the official clone flight mode to disable/enable again. In the end, I had to soft-reset.

So lesson is: Do not use 3rd party or even Windows default, sim enable/flight mode programs. In fact, I wonder if some reports about unreliable sim connections is due to some program being installed that does this at windows startup. But it could also be that I am just lucky with the ROM version I have.

All in all, so far I am quite happy about the phone. I wanted to both have a double sim phone (I travel internationally frequently) and some core windows mobile utilities on me. I used to have a Touch HD and the clone cannot run a lot of the 'gadgets' and 'eye candy' program of HTC due to different graphics and sensor chips, but it functions it primary roles in a single device.

Oh, and the battery: I've used it medium intensively for 2 days now (like you would any new toy), and the battery is at 50%. Not sure if the last 49% is going to collapse suddenly on me, but with 2 days, it has already matched if not surpassed what I get out of the Touch HD battery.

If you have different experiences, I'd like to hear it, but with the exact ROM/RADIO details (like previous post) included please. And a link to the ROM, if you have it. Unfortunately, I do not have this ROM in a file, sorry.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] M_DD:
Experienced the same problem. Actually after finishing the SMS don't use left icon to send it. Pressing this icon always send your SMS via SIM 1 even SIM 2 is set as default. Instead push menu icon on the right. Two last items in this menu are not seen (in my ROM), but they are here. The upper one is "send via SIM1" and the last one (at the very bottom) is "send via SIM2". If you press these inviible item the SMS would be send via SIM2. For me this works.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] fschwenk:
@M_DD

Thanks for the clue! Works!

@cybermouse

No problem with getting the dummy title - as long as things work and I am happy with it :)

Device info reports:

ROM Version: C03.001.01 ENG

ROM Date: 2010_03-15

Radio Version: 2-2-2010 13:50:3

Protocol Version BASE_W09.20_P4

So, that is absolutely identical to your info it seems.

I have installed some add ons like Resco Explorer and MagiCall

International format: Not Working

Zoom bar: Working

Wifi: Working

Bluetooth: Working

G-Sensor: Working

SMS send & receive: working on both SIM (yes, now that I know how to do it ...)

Signal strength: Looks good to me

GPS: working

GPRS/EDGE: Works at least on SIM1

Reg the international dialing: What I am experiencing is that when something is dialed I get a message that says "the number you have dialed is unknown". When I use MagiCall, I create a rule that replaces "+" with "00" which is the international prefix in Germany. So, my conclusion is that without MagiCall the plus sign is either not replaced at all or it is replaced with a wrong sequence of numbers. I do not know how to determine whether it is the former or the latter.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Mig45:
Sim Toolkit

Does have anybody working Sim Toolkit /STK/ for bank or operator aplication ?

Do you have install STK cab for cells like T53xx ?

Thx

Mig45
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ZGOGO:
Helo

It is great forum...

i learn lots of things..

But i still have a problem..

I have T5358+

everything works great I managed to instal Garmin navigation on it..

Problem :

I can not turn on the phone, or if the breakthrough soon It turned off I managed to make only two calls, I tried all sorts of things, but im slowly crazy:) :mad: I hope you can help me please please

regards from Croatia

thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
Your error description is unclear. Anyway, mobileuncle seems to think that phone is a C02 series, so you may try some of those ROMS. Google translate is your friend. Search, read, search some more, read some more. Repeat.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] t0urist:
T5353++

Please help me to find Kitchen ROM for T5353++
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
What I do notice is that the phone drops the + for numbers that are in the SIM memory itself. So phone addressbook is working, but those originating from the SIM book are not. Is that possibly your problem too?

I am not bothered by that, because my main addressbook is from Outlook through ActiveSync anyway.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] fschwenk:
@cybermouse

Unfortunately, all phone numbers are stored in the address book - I am using the sync feature as well.

and a new problem:

If I select a contact in the contact list and then select card 1 or card 2 from the menu to initiate the call, then it seems that the number is not dialed at all. Only if I use the dialer the call works. any clue?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
Teeter / HTC G-sensor compatible !!!!!

Hi all

I used to have a Touch HD, and now a T5388++ clone. I knew I would be giving up some gadgets due to hardware differences, but I wanted a double sim windows mobile, so I am happy with the T5388++ (so far)

But my 8 year old nephew had a much harsher judgment: No more teeter game, so it must be a bad phone :(

Well, some dude at the chinese boards has solved this with a HTC-Clone G-Sensor translation utility. Now Teeter works:D:D

The sensor is of less quality, but it works.

See the link at the bottom. Install the HTCGSDK.cab. Also copy the HTCAPI.dll to \Windows.

First calibrate your G-Sensor with the normal clone utility. Then start the extra utility. (Tip for calibration: If it is way of, meaning X or Y is too far from 0, it refuses to calibrate with a "lay phone flat message". Hold the phone so that X and Y are closer to zero, and calibrate a few times, each time stepping to the proper calibration.)

Options (in Chinese squares):

- x1 to x4 force multiplication.

- Negate X axis

- Negate Y axis

- Swap X-Y axis

I had to use Negate X, Swap X-Y and factor 4 (HTC normally goes to 1000, so check if Z goes to 1000)

Also in the same download page: A Teeter/Labirint version that does not check for HTC hardware and some other gravity games.

Enjoy, and all thanks to ptlgf at mobileuncle He wrote it for a completely different Sunno clone, but it probably works for all. In any case, unlike ROM flashing, this will not brick your phone, so go ahead and try.

Download:

http://files.uloziste.com/bbb065ac4c49cbbd/
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
And another useful utility by this ptlgf guy. But not for T5388++ :(

Its to reprogram the zoom bar as 4 programmable buttons. The zoom bar normally only works in Internet Explorer, so reprogramming as 4 soft-buttons could be useful

But when I install it, all touch-input on the lower half is messed up. I am guessing the program was made for the 320x400 WQVGA screens, so it is expecting the zoom in the 400~450 area, and thus it messes up my 640x800 screen. Beware: the only reason I had not to hard-reset is because I had VolDpad installed for cursor control.

But for you WQVGA users, it may be a useful tool:

http://www.mobileuncle.com/thread-11193-1-1.html

EDIT: Hmm, the program is OrchidTouch and its source seems to be public

Anyone a better programmer than me?

Download:

http://files.uloziste.com/bbb065ac4c49cbbd/
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] soul_train:
Any news for T5353 users? Still waiting for Win 6.5 Eng... If anyone can read chinesse at mobileuncle forum please share if they made some progress with t5353 roms. Ty
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
*You* can read Chinese too! Just use Google translate. Easiest way to do that is installing Google Chrome browser. Brush=Flash. British=English. I think Cottage=Windows, I have not figured 'oil' out yet.

But to be honest, I have never seen a 'British' ROM on any of those websites, the ones we do have I believe are from westerners and came to those westerners by means of seller service/warranty.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] markytanmusic:
T5358+

T5358+

Device Info

CPU : Qualcomm MSM7200A 528

RAM Size : 288 MB

Flash Size : 512 MB

Display Resolution : 240*400

Did anyone manage to run touchflo 3d or Android on this phone?

I couldnt find any rom, maybe one you guys done the job already..

Let me know the step by step installation.. Thank you.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ascii79:
Can someone point me where to buy these phones ?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] crustie:
if you want the dual sim 5388++ (touch diamond2 copy) try here

www.fastcardtech.com/goods-4320-Dia...adband++G-sensor++600MHz+CPU+GPS+WIFI+FM.html

this is where i purchaced mine they sell others as well

or just google 5388++ and look around

if you are in Europe there is a dely with postage at the momment due to the Ash/plane problem

Crustie
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
As if that airspace problem is going to delay his phone.

While fastcardtech did deliver a good phone, and probably are a good company, they were slow shipping. Though I paid close to US$50 for express DHL shipping:

- First they send an email it may take 3 days to ship

- After 3 days, they provide a DHL tracking code, but claimed it may take 3 days to show in in the DHL computer. (BS: it means they stuck a DHL barcode on it, but still did not hand it over to DHL. As soon as its in DHL hands, the bar-code is scanned and available)

- Then after 3 days they warned me that due to holidays, it may take 3 days before DHL processes it (Come on, I work with DHL more often, professionally too)

So I do not think the banned airspace will bother this. Mind you, despite the excuses on shipment, fastcardtech seems to be a valid operation, and they did provide Crustie with post-sale support. Maybe they were jut stalling due to a stock problem, but they came through, so I probably would buy again.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
I found [HKLM]\Software\Hisi\HiDeviceInfo on my device, its were the fake device info on CPU speed (MSM7200 600MHz) is stored.

You can make it display anything you want, but if you remove the CPU and speed keys altogether, it comes with HiSilicon K3 533Mhz (as already known)

The RAM/ROM does not come with automatic values if you remove the key, so I updated them myself with 256MB/256MB (on a T5388++)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] binary_vortex:
Is there anywhere in EU where i could post my phone to reset it and install the wm 6.5

i am trying to reset it for a couple of months now, without success.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Mitsuke:
T5388++

Hello,

my first post here :)

I have bought T5388++ dual sim mobile from eBay. Today i got it.

So, first i have checked device info. Here it is:

ROM Version : C03.001.03 ENG

ROM Date : 2010-04-07

Radio Version : 2-2-2010 13:50:3

Protocol Version: BASE_W09.20_P4

CPU: Hisilicon-K3 @ 533MHz

RAM/ROM: 288MB/512MB

Display Res.: 240*400

Colors: 65k

Now, i'd like to know if the resolution is really 240x400 :(. Because seller had written in auction, that the resolution is 480x800. Also RAM and ROM sizes can be somehow identified real values?

I want to resolve this with seller as soon as possible.

Here is link to eBay item:

hxxp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220578392896

Thanks for any helpful reply.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
Come on !!!! The info you're looking for is 3 post up! Read before you ask people, its the only way to learn.

Information on your phone can be faked, using registry HKLM\Software\Hisi\HiDeviceInfo

You can make it read resolution "Harry Potter" and CPU speed "Warp 9" if you wanted.

Its true one has to be careful with these Chinese clones, soooo many variants about, but since you have a double sim, and since the ROM is a C03 and you have the same radio/protocol versions, you can be pretty sure you have T5388++, and thus pretty sure you have a 800x480 screen, no worries.

Also you should also be able to simply see it, on a screen size like this, 400x240 would be clearly pixelated, while 800x480 nice and smooth, unless if you look through a magnifying glass or have reaaaaly good eyes.

It appears you have a ever so slightly newer ROM (C03.001.03 in stead o C03.001.01) and when they baked this ROM they left some of these device info values wrong. You can set them as you like in the registry.

So, please try to get a ROM file from your seller. Not sure if he will be able to give you one, but you can ask, and then post the ROM here. Also, please check all the functions of your phone and post that too.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Mitsuke:
Hi cybermaus,

sorry i forget to write it in the first post, that i have already cleared those fake registry values. It was showing some Marvell cpu. But that didnt solved my question. RAM and ROM values are not automatically filled. Neither display res.value. So thats why i asked in the first place.

I have attached screen image captured from the phone. The number 4 in the middle of the screen (in time info) is thick 3 pixels which are clearly visible. Also the image dimensions is 240 x 400. Well, that answered my question :D :(

So which version of phone is that??

Things that i have tested:

International format: not working

GPS: working

Bluetooth: working

G-Sensor: working

SMS send and receive: working on both SIM

GPRS/EDGE: working

Wi-Fi: not tested yet

Any advice what should i do? If i knew that the resolution is going to be 240x400, i wouldn't bought it. :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
The trick to finding English ROM's for your phone on the Chinese boards

(with all risks of mistakes and bricking your phone)

1. Install Google Chrome for near seamless translation.

2. search example: T5388++ 英语 WM6.5 -元

meaning: T5588++ British WM6.5 -Yuan

That last bit, because you are not interested in sites offering to sell one.

Once you have the ROM:

- Double check for all hints to see if it is really for your phone

- Read all hints in this thread on how to hard-reset & flash your phone

- Still unsure how to flash then read this thread again.

Once you have flashed your phone, and it's actually working and working well

- Report back, with details of the phone, the ROM version, and the link where you got the ROM.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
A Marvel CPU? But Dual sim?

Maybe its a TOPS A1, that's the only other dual sim lookalike I found.

You can check here at the bottom of the page they show physical differences.

But that makes it really strange. The ROM version looks near identical to mine, as does the radio, and the TOPS A1 is supposed to have a completely different chipset from MTK. Also, on the other thread, they just told me the Marvel phones do not have the Hisi registry set, which would be logical as it probably stands for Hisilicon

Are you sure about that screenshot, did the software not automatically downsize it?

EDIT:

I looked at your ebay ad again (because I am intriged).

The specs show "3.2 inch WQVGA TFT touch screen, 65K color, 480 x 800 pixels" which is self-inconsistent, as WQVGA is 240x400, and 480x800=WVGA, without the Q.

The pictures of your ad are clearly not from a TOPS A1 though, but appear from a T5388++

EDIT2: It turns out this is actually a S628 T5388i, not a S650 T5388++. The same dual sim phone, but WQVGA only, a 2M camera only, a 460MHz Marvell CPU and possibly with only 128M RAM Ref: here and here
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Mitsuke:
From the screenshots on that chinese forum you posted i can certainly say it's not TOPS A1. My phone looks same as the one marked with 5388.

Well, about that screen i posted i think it was not scaled. You could try it on your phone.

I used this software:

yyy.pdamobile.cz/index.php?ind=downloads&op=download_file&ide=5&file=VitoScreenCapture.exe

(replace yyy with www and watch for the space in word file :))

It runs on PC and works when you connect your phone over Active Sync.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
Your Vito screenshot does resize the image, it came out for me as 400x240 also.

More importantly, if I next look at the screenshot on a large screen, and at my actual screen with a magnifying glass, I see clearly that the screenshot was indeed pixelated, small print on the actual screen is much sharper.

As a final test, just download some software that has clearly distinct versions for WVGA and WQVGA, like S2U2 (you'll need that anyway) and install the WQVGA version. If only a quarter of the screen is used when you run the software, you know.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Mitsuke:
Done, first i tried WQVGA version and it fit perfectly across whole screen. Then i tried WVGA version and that one didn't run at all. It said wrong resolution version installed. :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
Ok, well that settles it.

It means that Sunno has two versions of the 5388++ out there. One with the advertised Hisilicon 533Mhz and 800x480 WVGA, and one with Marvel (what speed was it?) and 400x240 WQVGA.

Maybe they ran out of component stock and fitted the other screens.

Maybe your seller is honestly also unaware about this. The mistake in the add (naming 800x480 as WQVGA) could be a normal mistake, I think I've seen that before with others too. Maybe the naming of WQVGA is indicative he knew already.

Also, it probably means the C03.001.03 variant of the ROM is specifically to cater to this variation of hardware build.

Good to know, sorry about your problem. You could simply assume it means all screen graphics will be 4 times faster.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Mitsuke:
I wrote email to the seller. Hope he respond fast and we can settle on refund or replacement. Argh i hate when this happens :mad:

You bought your phone from some e-shop? Can you please send me link to that store?

Anyway, thank you cybermaus for your time and responses :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
fastcardtech. This time you really did not read the thread, cause that too is on the previous page.

Slow shipping, but they provided after-sales to another guy in this thread in the form of a replacement flashable ROM

I don't want to scare you, but there is a slight risk that all this is strategy from the manufacturer, building better phones first, and worse ones later, which could mean fastcardtech is now/will also be also supplied with the WQVGA versions. But that is pure speculation on my side.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mr nick:
I just returned my T5355+ to the seller because of memory problems and the seller told me he was going to swap it for a T5388++ which looked like a decent enough spec. I then looked closer at the details and I saw that it was advertised as having 800x480 WQVGA resolution. I contacted him and asked him to clarify what the resolution REALLY was because to my understanding it can't be both 800x480

and

WQVGA.

I'm at a loss as to which way to go now - get the T5355+ replaced and hope it was bad memory which caused the problems or get the T5388++ with more memory but a possibly lower resolution. Pity they can't just make a phone which has all the decent bits in it rather than everything seemingly being built for the same cost with a variation on components i.e more memory but lower resolution, or lower memory but higher resolution. :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
And yes, they can build a phone with all the decent components in. Its called a HTC, they cost twice as much, and they make them in Taiwan, not China.

Possibly one of the reasons I am happy with my phone is because I knew what I was buying when I went for a cheap clone. Personally, I would be disappointed about the resolution, but if the rest of the phone works, I'd be using it. If you really think you are going to get everything you want for half the price, then I can predict you your next purchase will also not be to your liking.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mr nick:
I fully appreciate that 'you get what you pay for' with these clones but as far as the model I sent back, it had the resolution and all the features I wanted. I guessed that having 128Mb of RAM would be more than enough but it would crash when browsing web pages or running TomTom - problems I didn't encounter with my lowly O2 XDA Mini S. As for the spec of the offered replacement, on paper it looks good and even on the site where you got your phone from it looks good with the WVGA resolution but as you pointed out in an earlier post, it looks like the manufacturers may now be downgrading the components and using lower spec display units.

I'm not after anything over the top - just what is actually advertised on the websites. If they say it's got 800x480 then I don't expect to get 400x240 and if it says it's got 256Mb RAM I don't expect to get 64Mb. If the phones are advertised correctly then I can make a decision based on that info and not feel like I've been scammed. I know the info on the actual phones is generally fake but a lot of sites do advertise the correct specs but when you get 3 levels (advertised, implied and actual) then it's pretty much a lucky-dip as to what is going to turn up in the post.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
Precisely. Myself, I was expecting to be 'scammed' and feel lucky I was only scammed a little (slow shipping at high price, and I am only now finding out the GPS is not as precise as should be, but hey, its working)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
But I think you tried to flash an original HTC rom and that failed? Anyway, a relatively short search shows this (if you have a 5353, and not a 5353+):

http://translate.googleusercontent....&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhgzbxBf-lfjWIYrSsCHQvt0lRlDeg
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
@Crustee; fschwenk

If you are still reading this thread, I am retracting my 'working' judgment on international format. Its working sometimes.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] fschwenk:
Thanks for the update! I have finally purchased MagiCall!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cybermaus:
So how does that work. Does it actually *updates* the address book, or does it intercepts and modify at the moment of dialing?

The first I would not like, as it would next sync the updates back to my Outlook. The second I can live with.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ascii79:
I did research . The official manufacturer site is

http://www.hot-china.hk/

They have some official software to download.