yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] G8D:
Huh? :P

It would be a great feature, I know it's only possible with some apps but it would be a nice addition :P

Great program btw. I will now use this in parallel with SSH as my main access method. So much easier than mounting the SD, plus it backs up straight to PC :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] shenye:
any idea how i fix it? =\
[General Questions and Answers] fiskuss:
After making soft reset at my HTC Touch Pro I seeonly black screen with banner "TOUCH PRO" in the middle an right bottom tehre are SPL version....

But nothing more, HTC don't start WM (version 6.1 installed) and also not possible to switch it off. Nothing elese is possible to do, only remove battery.

Could some one help, or there is only hard reset necessary? :eek:
[General Questions and Answers] band27:
Steps:

1) remove battery and see

2) if nothing, then hard reset...

3) if not able to, then place device into bootloader mode and flash using active sync
[HD2 General] Hani55:
hi

i have HTC HD2 and its new device , i set down on the device then i notice a black point comes on the device screen , when i visit the HTC Delare , he told me that i have to change the screen ,

but the device is working 100% and no any damage ,

what can you advice me,

attached the picture of my HTC:mad:
[HD2 General] kryptonites:
dude im no expert but it happened to me once on my nokia and was told an LCD screen (liquid crystal display) may have a very fine crack in it and a bit of liquid may have come out...the only way to find out is when you press that black spot on the screen does it have a rainbow effect?
[HD2 General] htc12345:
make sure not to make it worse by pressing it. must be lcd which is damaged from pressure.
[HD2 General] Archer:
There's a few threads on here where others have reported this exact thing happening to them. Some of them fixed it by applying suction to the screen, whilst it simply disappeared for some others.

Do a thorough search - it's on here somewhere.
[HD2 General] Hani55:
so what can i do?

what can i do ? should i buy a new LCD? and from where can i bought it?
[HD2 General] Archer:
Did the information you gained from searching not help then? I was sure it would as the previous threads discussing this exact issue seemed very helpful and most people ended with the problem resolved.
[HD2 General] Hani55:
not yet help

i didnt find the right answer ,

please do help me brothers

thanks
[HD2 General] gabbs:
take it back to where you bought it and get a replacement..
[HD2 General] terrytpot:
Try harder...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5445875

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=617386

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5435632

took me 2 mins to grab those links..:cool:
[HD2 General] rahulelectra:
According to wikipedia

So anybody have idea how is it disabled ? If suppose WM 6.6 or WM 7.0 OS have HD video support and we install on HD2.

Question 1 : Is HD video decoding is disabled at CPU iteself by qualcomm or at HTC in bios or somthing sort off or is it due to OS/Kernel limitation ?

Question 2 : Can we play 720p videos if we rom update with HD Video supported WM 6.6/7 ?

I searched on here / google but didnt get the ans...

source:

wikipedia
[HD2 General] BLAST3RR:
New drivers might/could open up these possibilities on upcoming WM6.6-WM7 releases. However, there is no real use in playing back 720p movies on your device due to it's limited resolution.

It would, however, be nice not having to re-encode the file before putting it on your phone. Still, it wouldn't be of much use without TV out imo.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
On the contrary, it would be very useful indeed: you could download and store just one version of the video for use on either a desktop PC or a phone, and no transcoding would be required, with consequent enormous savings in time and electricity.
[HD2 General] rahulelectra:
Yeah i agree with you that its not wise to play 720 videos considering screen resolution and cpu / battery usage.

But what i will like , that if copy movies / videos at work I can watch while returning home in metro.

Or while journey in train etc i can copy videos from passengers (many are carrying notebooks for watching movies or mail on olong distance journeys) and play them on my HD2..

One more question considereing 1ghz processor is there any app for conevrting Videos from phone only....(I know video encoding is resource heavy task still.. ???)
[HD2 General] MerLinh:
I don't know about a movie cause most of full lenght movies ar in mkv and bigger than 4 gigs, and as far as i know ntfs file system is not supported by any phone. Although series episodes would be nice without conversation its just consumes a lot of time apart from downloadig.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
file size is definately going to be an issue for most people here (imo), regardless of whether the device will play 720p or not.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Some people will never get it, but 720p playback without HDMI out is COMPLETELY USELESS.

Because it does NOT remove the need of converting the videos. Even if a phone is capable of playing back 720p videos, it plays only specifically converted videos and NOT every 720p video.
[HD2 General] harddisk_wp:
yeah only x264 ones so where is the problem, standard 720p warez rels are x264
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
It is useless because the device resolution isnt great enough to fully appreciate the HD content.

Conversion is also an issue but as has been said x264 is supported.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Only in the right container and with the right conversion settings. 90% of all "warez" videos would have to be converted anyway...

...you want HTC to make the device even more expensive only to be able to play 10% of your illegally downloaded videos without conversion?

Ridiculous. As long as there's no HDMI out, 720p is completely useless, it only adds additional costs and efforts and delay to the release of the devices.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
I think it would be closer to 100% of peoples illegal downloads would be playable on the leo if its Snapdragon's 720p High-Definition video decoding was enabled.

But... not much point without bigger storage volume on the device.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
I could be wrong, but aren't most illegal downloaded videos in the divx container? Those would not play without conversion to .mp4. It's not enough that they are H.264, they also need to be in the right container, with the right audio format and bitrate etc.

Definitely not worth the additional cost and wait on the device.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
you are not seeing the bigger picture my friend!

pirates upload movies that have been converted for playback on whatever device already,... you would start to see 720p_HD2_Movie illegal downloads all over the place... this is what i mean ;)
[HD2 General] rahulelectra:
What additional costs ??? considering Nexus 1 with snapdragon processor plays 720p vidoes then why HD2 can't ? Where the limitation is ?

and i know 720p videos playing on small resolution has no advantage but disadvantage at the cost of cpu and battery.. but i remebery the days i owned Sony erricson which supportd only 176X220 cannot play videos even 320x240 ... the videos has to exactly encoded at 176x220 resolution to play on it. tha was a pain as videos larger shared by frnds mobile will not play....
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
The reason people don't "get" that statement is because it's WRONG. There is no reason at all to assume that 720p videos would require conversion under those circumstances. It simply isn't true that there is something special and unique about specific codecs that makes them suitable for hardware-accelerated playback while others are not: it's merely coincidence that certain hardware-accelerated applications happen to support only those codecs now. Even if it were the case that only H264 video could be played at 720p, that's the format that virtually all 720p video is already in! This has been argued out at some length in previous threads, for example: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=604437&highlight=720p&page=4

It's also simply not true that there is no point in playing 720p video on a 480p screen. There would be an enormous benefit in terms of convenience: you'd only have to download a single version of a file for desktop PC and phone use, and no transcoding would be needed.

Even if that were the case (and, as already explained, it isn't - there's nothing magical about .mp4 that makes it easier to play back) conversion from one container format to another is hugely much faster and easier than converting between codecs and resolutions.

Incidentally, divx is not a container, anyway, it's a codec.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Of course all codecs can, in theory, be hardware accelerated. But there is no manufacturer that enables hardware acceleration for more than one codec. That's a cost and time issue and it's simply not going to happen anytime soon.

At the moment, there is absolutely no point in adding 720p playback capabilities to a phone without digital TV out.

And Shasarak, I'm really getting tired of all your false or unfounded statements, it really seems like you're trying to spread FUD. If you say things that you can't be sure about (like your statements about the availability of WM7 for example), then please tell people that it's your opinion. Otherwise, your statements are no better than lies.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
And again, wrong on all points. I explained why 720p playback would be useful in my last post: convenience. As for hardware acceleration of multiple codecs, are you not aware that there is a version of CorePlayer which runs with hardware acceleration on the Toshiba TG01? (Possibly also on the Acer NeoTouch, I'm not sure). The standard video player on Samsung phones also supports multiple formats with acceleration. Even HTCAlbum handles .mp4 and .3gp files using either of the codecs the HD2 camera can use, while Pocket Media Player handles .WMV's as well.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Coreplayer with hardware acceleration for ALL codecs? I believe it when I see it. Till then, you're simply wrong.

I wouldn't want HTC to spend time and money on that anyway, until they release a device with HDMI out. I want my devices earlier and cheaper. I think you're a minority, anyway :D
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
You're just determined to make yourself look silly, aren't you? :) I've seen it. It was even briefly posted on this forum at one point before the Coreplayer writers requested that the thread be removed on the grounds that it was basically a warez thread - distributing copies of commercial software for free. Do some googling for "OEM CorePlayer" if you don't believe me. Of course it cannot legally be run on anything other than a TG01 (which ships with it) as only Toshiba have paid the money to Qualcomm to license Qualcomm intellectual property.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
I'm so tired of all your unfounded claims. Link please or it didn't happen!

And as you realized yourself, it's a money issue. I do NOT want HTC to spend money (and time) on this useless feature.

Of course, as soon as they release a device with HDMI out, it'll be a different story.
[HD2 General] rahulelectra:
Usablity of this feature is subjective..

Its not great but as shasarak said its about convenience...

But still qustion remains... so i make up as HD decoding (HW acceleration) on HD@ is disabled by Qualcomm ?
[HD2 General] harddisk_wp:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=613355

Here you are.

the|m.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
As you see, harddisk_wp has kindly provided you with a link, so clearly it did happen. Would you care for some humble pie? ;)

It's not just a money issue, of course, it's a Windows Mobile issue. Until the operating system is upgraded to something modern, the Snapdragon hardware is crippled by some of the five-or-six-years-old underlying software. (This is the reason why you see 720p video decoding and even 720 video capture on Android-based Snapdragon or Symbian-based OMAP phones, but not on any WinMo devices). Hopefully WM7 will overcome this limitation, although perhaps not on the HD2.

I have to say, your attitude is remarkably selfish. :( What you're basically saying is that because you personally don't want to use this feature, no one else should be allowed to have access to it, whether they want it or not. Clearly a lot of people (myself included) would like it, and their opinions are actually just as valid as yours. There are plenty of features on an HD2 that I never use, but you won't find me jumping up and down and demanding that HTC remove them, or condemning them for introducing them in the first place: I accept that other people have different priorities from my own, and that they have a perfect right to do so.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
And where in this thread is the proof that it plays EVERYTHING with HW acceleration?

And no, it's NOT a WM issue at all. Do you actually realize how stupid your claims are?

First, you say there is a Coreplayer version that is able to play 720p, then you say that it's not possible because of WM. WHAT?!?

Well, you'll never get it anyway... you're ridiculous. And yes, it this case, my attitude is selfish. I don't want to pay extra for a completely a useless feature! And I'm sure that's most people's opinion.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Sorry guys, but you both sound ridiculous right now. Can you take it private? A few posts we can handle, but it's gone on for long enough now.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
I'm not going to comment anymore on this anyway. Shasarak is making ridiculous claims with absolutely nothing to back them up. You can't argue with someone like that.

The reality is:

No manufacturer has ever released a device with full HW acceleration for all codecs and that's not going to happen anytime soon. Thus, there's no point in having 720p playback capabilities.

Windows Mobile has absolutely nothing to do with the lack of drivers. The instruction sets it supports are enough and neither Android nor iPhone make use of ARMv7 instructions in order to play back HD video.

I'm still waiting for any proof that this is incorrect........

And one more thing: Most people seem to prefer a cheaper device and earlier release instead of having 720p playback support. Me too.
[HD2 General] rahulelectra:
Alright so its nothing to with WM. If 720p plays on Nexus one and not on HD2 indicates its disabled by in hardware considering both have similar hw specs.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
No, it indicates missing drivers/software on the HD2.
[HD2 General] beerupop:
i know that sound stupid but when you see a 720P video on youtube

it's working !

Why ? this is not a true 720P or what ?

Sorry^^
[HD2 General] huggy_72:
wait it's just impossible have a 720p on HD2 and any other device

1 720p is a 1280x720 pixel aspect ratio 1,77, its not important the container or the codec you compress it, standard datarate(VBR) is 20800 kbps video, and need a HDMI conection.

you are talking something like this I can whatch HD on my old pal/ntsc(720x576) TV, whit my BDreader........

If HD2 can reproduce a 720p video, This mean a lower resolution the HW RESIZE VIDEO, not benefit at all, you lost to much "information" :)

now what the problem? we don't want transcode? since we can't never watch a 720p.....no way learn Sorrenson Sqeeze, Canopus ProCoder, Adobe Media encoder, and put some good multipass MPEG-4 (container) whit main concept H264(codec), whit good bitrate, and mantain aspect ratio
[HD2 General] huggy_72:
No it's NOT!!! think only at your connection speed and at the standard datarate

and umh.... to me not 1280x720 the player, and the video/audio conection betwen your grafic card and your screen, and what about your screen resolution??

sure is progressive, is a .F4V a version of flash video (.FLV) whit a H264 codec and good bitrate + some "web" filter, put your screen at 1280x720 and open it fullscreen, how look?
[HD2 General] Straputsky:
I disagree somewhat. I love Animes. Waiting for the train and being able to watch one episode would be a nice thing. These files are compressed, but in 720p. Space is also no problem: Each episode is about 300MB. Given 16GB microSDHC cards today I can take several episodes along without worrying about loosing too much space. Yeah, given the fact I take along a small card reader all the time which is often delivered with your microSDHC I could take along even a second one.* In near future there will be 32GB-Cards.

Second point is "additional costs": Due to the lack of competitors it isn't likely that the devices are priced by their costs. I would highly assume, that the devices are priced by the willingness of what people will pay for these devices. Independantly from the manufacturing costs (if they are 200€ oder 300€) - if most people will pay 600€ for a device, then the device is sold for 600€, with the company targeting the manufacturing cost of 200€.

That means: Adding these licences would make things more expensive for the company in the first place. But as long as most people won't buy devices exceeding the 600€ limit, they can't pass on these costs to the consumer.

Only in markets with high competition, the company is forced to pass on these costs, cause there is no margin left, to compensate these additional costs. But that's not what this market is like. In fact it has a very high margin compared to "traditional" mobile phones. That's why Motorola, SE and others are interested in competing with Apple with the Android-Phones.

"adds additional [...] delay to the release of the devices."

I couldn't find any hint, that proves this claim. Do you have some additional informations? I would agree that it adds some additional efforts, but if this leads to a real delay? Don't know if it would hit the time critical path that much. Maybe, maybe not.

Seeing you come from Germany, I would have liked to write it in german. Things would have been much easier. :D I hope you still get one point: Higher costs for the manufacturer does not necessarily mean higher costs for you.

* Of course you could take along many more cards. I referred to the card reader because it helps you remember where you put your second card and don't have to worry where the damn little bastard has gone. :D
[HD2 General] tsamolotoff:
Hey retar silly cows, why don't you try some 720p video in a .mp4 container in Windows Media Player or your HTC Album? It does work on Acer neoTouch.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Do you have a video of the neoTouch playing 720p?
[HD2 General] tsamolotoff:
http://rapidshare.de/files/49146937/H264_720p_Snapdragon_Video_Test_Main_L4.mp4.html

This file plays pretty good in WMP. If you need some 'testimony', I can record it
[HD2 General] Archer:
In both windows media player and the default video player I get stutters. It's worse in windows media player for me.
[HD2 General] tsamolotoff:
There should be a file named 'QTVStatsDisplay.txt' in \ directory with some info on the playback. Here it's for this specific file played on my Acer S200 (with 3.003b official ROM):

************** QDSP6-Assisted Video Decoder statistics **************
2010/02/13 21:14:35.624 (UTC) completion
Clip dimensions : 1280 x 720
Total number of samples received :: 2374
Total number of Frames reported by Parser :: 2338
Total number of I Frames reported by Parser :: 158
Total number of I Frames reported by Decoder :: 158
Total number of ConcealedMacroblocks reported by Decoder:: 0
Total number of Frames decoded :: 2373
Total number of Frames returned error :: 2
Total number of Frames dropped during decoding :: 0
Total number of buffers used :: 2352
Total number of buffers released :: 2352
Time (ms) until first frame delivery :: 544

Total number of frames dropped by the renderer :: 4
Total number of frames drawn by the renderer :: 2358
Average frame rate seen by the renderer :: 30.25 FPS
[HD2 General] brandi:
yeah, it does play it. why do people here keep asking the same questions?
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
It's not so much a question of whether it plays it, it's a question of whether plays it in a way that is acceptable to watch (i.e. without any dropped frames and without having to compromise the image quality by reducing the bit-rate so much it actually ends up looking worse than a transcode would).
[HD2 General] tsamolotoff:
Well, apparently there's no QDSP6-enabled codecs on HD2, so that's why the question of 'acceptable bitrate/profile/level' arises (however, on Acer S200, almost all video clips in 720p (High Profile @ L4.x or less) I was able to obtain go at second-to-second time rate if compared to my PC)... Well done, HTC :)
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Have you spoken to Chainfire about this? Maybe there's something that could be included in his 3D driver package that would help rectify this?
[HD2 General] tsamolotoff:
I reckon that there're two options:

a) HTC messed with DirectShow codecs, so all that you need is to re-register the proper ones (I don't know how they do it on WinMo, there's regsvr32 and a plenty of directshow-specific utilities on PC)

b) HTC hasn't paid for HD decoding capability, so you can try to use Acer's codecs or TG01's codecs (if there're any, as they use customised CorePlayer).
[HD2 General] charliepan:
HDMI OUT

hi.. if your willing to play 720P on mobile phone try this..

MOTOROLA DROID XT720..

hope that will fit to your needs..

im using it as what you want and it's really great..

regards,
[HD2 General] Sky-Net:
Hi all

Once we know about the existence of this codec... i wonder if it would be possible to make it work for our leo's.

I find hard to believe that i got almost the same playback performance with my old samsung omnia. Htc Leo is supposed to be a premium smartphone. Despite its premium price tag... Its playback performance is really poor... sadly.

I'd like to see in a near future some light with Core Player supporting hardware accelerated video playback for Snapdragon architecture... but as far as i know they provided Qtv support for previous Htc phones thanks to reverse engineering methods.

Should i give up and forget 720p?

Many thanks
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Good news... I think. The HTC Linux project for HD2 just displayed a proof of concept for a media player running on Linux, and it supports 720p video without issue :D It's not a clean, release-quality thing yet, but it's on the way.