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[HD2 General] |oLo|:
Well i'm not new to this. Just new to having a HD2 on a non supported network. My first device was a HP Jornada 548 (for those that been around long enough knows what that is :rolleyes:) that i brought back in 1998-1999 and many more afterwards.

Kevin, I'm still loving this device and the rom does it's job. I am definately going to give up my Tilt 2 (maybe even sell it).

I must have missed the discussion about the 1900 and 850 in only certain areas. Kinda hard to weed through all the posts to get what you need now-a-days. But...that's all part of the journey i guess :o
[HD2 General] richsark:
hi kevinrirvine,

i understand... just looking for the best rom to use. any thoughts or suggestions:cool:?
[HD2 General] bataHD2:
Can someone confirmed if the HTC HD2 T9193 in Negri Electronics reaaly good deal than PD? :confused:
[HD2 General] delta-roh:
For the HD2 the Artemis rom is still the best and has full language support. :cool:
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
If you followed my directions that means you are flashing. I hope you left it continue and did not stop it.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
not a problem. i have said this throughout the thread but I HIGHLY RECOMMEND AND OTHERS AS WELL DUTTY'S ROMS they are second to none and more importantly very close to the stock htc rom with his own optimizations for speed and consistency. Most people on the thread either use his, Miri's, or the latest HTC Southeast Asia ROM if you want a stock one 1.66. Very few use Artemis and I don't think his/her roms are that great. Too much crap. Kevin
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
P.D. has a much, much better price. Negri is a US CO. though in Wisconsin so the only benefit here is you would get the device much faster. Your call though. Kevin
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Continue on. K
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I did not start posting in this thread to keep getting threatened that Kevin is shutting it down. Nor do I want to keep fighting with him. Evidently a mod stepping in has done nothing to halt his ego. I have helped people too, but you don't hear me mentioning it every post.

What is this thread about? Anything and everything about the T9193....Where to get it? Issues with the bands? How to debrand it? How and what to flash the T9193 with?

We have went quite a few posts. There has been no sarcasm. But Kevin is still not happy. Remember he was the first. And because he was the first we cant keep talking about the T9193 anymore. Personally walked 6 through it huh? Count again? Then go back and look at the bad advice and the bickering.

As far as Im concerned I hope a mod does shut this thread down. We can't keep it going with kevin's threats. I know you mean well kevin but I only worship one God.
[HD2 General] lquigley:
Kevin

I'm on several other forums who have great techs, mods, admin.s, But none of them belittle members like you do, or brag almost every post what you have done! Who really cares? Why can't everyone just help each other & not worry about who gets credit!! All the members know who are the good helpers, & who are good or bad arrogant ones! You seem to think you are above helping all these newbs,, if you don't want to help a newb, let someone else do it! Quig
[HD2 General] fnuna:
Try Negri Electronics. Will be available next week.

Also, Personal Digital have the phone on their Ebay page, make a search under "HD2 T9193".
[HD2 General] kris:
I ordered mine from Personal Digital and got my tracking info last night. I thought I'd be getting it this week but it's scheduled for delivery on Monday by 10:30am. I can't wait.
[HD2 General] kameleongt:
personal digital on the ebay link says they wont have any till 25th of june. . If its not to much trouble can you guys besure to post of your experiences. I plan on ordering early feb. thanx!! subscribed
[HD2 General] Raspster:
Where did u get the 2.61 radio from? Did you mean 1.61..? I only see a 1.61 that even comes close on here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611787&highlight=Telstra+radio And SMS & mms. Both don't work without it on at&t?
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
My apologies. The radio on the stock telstra rom is 2.05.51.11 and yes to both sms and mms. Also, to those of you who had asked dutty's latest rom is both here and htc pedia and everything works flawlessly.

I strongly recommend to those of almost everyone I am quessing, again the Telstra Rom on the device is completely unusable, to keep the telstra radio in whatever rom you choose to use for it is for the 850 band and all the uk radio's thus far and t-mo to come won't work nearly as well.
[HD2 General] Raspster:
Cool, thanks for the update Kevin.
[HD2 General] balane:
I've had a 3G HD2 on T-Mobile for a couple days now. I'm not sure what model it is though. It has the L26 ROM (I can't spell that guy's name. Larentis???) on it, I put it on within an hour of bringing it home. I get awesome 3G on T-Mobile in my area, such a relief after my Edge HD.

How can I tell what model number I have?
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Very easy look at your retail box on the bottom or under the battery. Not doubting your word here, well maybe a little, but the t-mo usa version of the hd2 has a mid March Launch Date so the chances of you having the USA Version of this device on January 21st is slim to None and Slim just left the building. Just saying and it is laurentius26 rom your referring to and this guy is gayer than gay. K
[HD2 General] balane:
asked to edit post
[HD2 General] lude219:
You sure it's not because you have wifi on?
[HD2 General] balane:
It's faster with wifi on and I'm near a wireless router obviously but it's still very quick with 3G. I mean, probably no faster than any other 3G phone when talking about data speeds but a ton faster than my HD with Edge was, big difference.
[HD2 General] lude219:
well turn off wifi and take a picture.
[HD2 General] balane:
Removed information from post.
[HD2 General] lude219:
Convincing. Can you do a speed test as well?

http://i.dslr.net/iphone_speedtest.html

The "H" stands for HSDPA, it's actually faster than 3G.

awww tsk tsk...you weren't supposed to let the cat outta the bag, huh ;]
[HD2 General] balane:
I was advised to take photos down so I did.

I don't get very good 3G at my house, one bar. When I was driving around, and that's the web site I use always, I got ~1350KBPS.

Let me go to the garage where I get H and test that.
[HD2 General] balane:
I just walked out to the garage where sometimes an H will pop up but I can't crack 1200kbps here.
[HD2 General] lude219:
Thank you for showing me. You said you're from the pacific northwest? That's also where tmobile USA HQ is located ;] Enjoy your phone, man. I'm sure if i talk any further, men in black suits will be at my door :p
[HD2 General] balane:
Hehe, thanks. Just for the record, I never stated this was a T-Mobile HD2. I just said it was an HD2 which is connected currently to the T-Mobile network and receiving 3G speeds. I'm inferring the radio is compatible and nothing more.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Please do not post rubbish in my thread.

I said this to you before but you won't listen to reason. You do not have this device and don't even know where to look for the model number. Let me quess no box. Please kindly do not post here again and I am being dead serious. This thread is about the t9193 on AT&T NOT T-MOBILES HORRIBLE 3G NETWORK AND WEIRD FREQUENCIES. Kevin
[HD2 General] balane:
You got it and you are absolutely correct on all points sir!

Edit: Please ignore images.
[HD2 General] doctajay:
I've been having a problem where all of a sudden my 3g connection stops working. The phone still shows the H or the 3g icon and I have full bars, but no internet is streaming through. If I put the phone in airplane mode and then take airplane mode off, then it works again. This has happened on multiple ROMs and I"m wondering if its just my hd2 or somethign with the at&t network or something else.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Could be anything. I've seen that once and I just figured it was ATT. I dropped the phone down to Edge only and it worked fine. As soon as I left that area and switched back to HSDPA, 3g internet worked fine again.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I have the same issue. The internet just locks. The phone gets stuck when switching bands. Happens on its own once in awhile. But happens everytime I delete a large number of emails or text messages. It is a real pain.

There are 2 threads on XDA I found discussing the problem but no conclusions. Its not ATT. It is the phone or the software on the phone.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5611973#post5611973

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5612093#post5612093

I thought it might have been because I flashed a different radio. I don't think I had the issue with the Telstra rom but I didnt have it on long. Not sure if HTC Australia will help me or not. But I am going to contact them in a few days. Trying to log some info about the issue.
[HD2 General] gogovn2000:
hello

what is a dutty rom? what does it do? and where can i find this dutty rom?thanks
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
it can be found at www.htcpedia.com under the APP'S SECTION. It is what I and many others here use and very close to the htc stock build yet with his own optimizations. no harm in at least trying.
[HD2 General] bataHD2:
thanks Kevin.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Not a problem happy to help

Hey ago,

You and I have been butting heads for quite sometime now and you said somethings about me last night that I felt were, well, untrue. Can you and I please make peace? I mean this sincerely and through pm's. I will check mine periodically today so that we can clear the air between us. Respectfully, Kevin
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Mistakenly double posted. DELETED
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Well my connection has been fine since the day I wrote this. I went to settings/wireless controls/phone/Band/ and changed WCDMA from Auto to WCDMA. I am in a 3G area so this has worked out for me. I never see the E anymore. Maybe its just 1 less band to switch from. :D

I am still using Auto for Band Frequency. Since I have a non branded rom I am not sure which to choose since none of the the selections match for a 850umts band.

If someone still has the TELSTRA rom, could they please tell me the choices for BAND FREQUENCY in order exactly as they are listed? Mine have changed because of the newer rom. I am going to do some searching in the registry and see if I can make some changes to adapt for the 850UMTS band.
[HD2 General] d.cortez:
Registry settings with 850 Band included:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\BandType]

"ItemValue4"=dword:00000003

"ItemName4"="UMTS(2100+800)"

"ItemValue3"=dword:00000002

"ItemName3"="GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)"

"ItemValue2"=dword:00000001

"ItemName2"="GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)"

"ItemValue1"=dword:00000000

"ItemName1"="Auto"

"ItemCount"=dword:00000004

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\NetworkType]

"ItemValue3"=dword:00000002

"ItemName3"="WCDMA"

"ItemValue2"=dword:00000001

"ItemName2"="GSM"

"ItemValue1"=dword:00000000

"ItemName1"="Auto"

"ItemCount"=dword:00000003

attached cab file will add the settings for you. now this worked on my Touch HD but haven't tried it on a HD2 (don't have it yet). i'd navigate to the keys (e.g., HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\NetworkType) in the registry to make sure they exist and that the entries do not conflict with the changes posted above. the cab file only changes the registry, it does not add any files, etc. (CAVEAT: use at your on risk, blah, blah...) :).
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Thanks Cortez on behalf of everyone in my thread. Much appreciated and it works with some other reg mod's I already knew about. Signal Fluctuating much more stable yet we still need a radio update from HTC AUD which in time will come. KEVIN

fyi everyone,

Will post a link you will all need shortly directly to HTC Australia which for the time being and will eventually change is where all of our warranties will be handled if you have an issue with your device. Please all go their firstly and register your devices for warranty purposes, sn not imei number needed, warranty begins from the date you actually received the device not when it was shipped to all of you. 12 month AUD warranty parts and labor not 24 like most HTC devices I have ever owned. No radio update yet but trust me their will be and probably within 1-2 months my sources tell me. Now if I was as some of you say arrogant, always wanting credit for helping others, why would I share this with all of you which none of you would have otherwise known? Because I am a good, honest person. Kev
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Here it is the direct link for our devices product updates.kri

http://www.htc.com/au/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all

All official product updates for our Telstra HD2 T9193 found at above link. Enjoy and Have a Great rest of the weekend. Kevin
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
My experiment today done before but this time for much longer.Ago inspired.

HEY DUDES AND DUDETTE'S AS MAZZARIN WOULD SAY,

Credit goes to Ago for this one yet I did all the experimenting and it, aka, the stock Telstra ROM Reluctantly is still on my device after 5 plus hrs. Too long.

I have said this before and from day one the best radio for our devices is the stock one and my experiment most of today proves this. I really don't care about extra ram and rom at this point I just want my device like all of you to settle down, sit fido, and not have a signal that is so sporadic you never know what it will do next. For most all of today I have been unhappily, please laugh, on the Telstra Shipped ROM AND RADIO, 2.05.51.11, and my device oddly has settled down quite alot yet still far from perfect. Much, much more stable though than any rom out there yes even my favorite Dutty's.

What exactly for those as particular like I am do I mean here? The signal and 3g connections still due fluctuate as per usual, but not nearly as frequently or severally as with other rom's and for the most part stays relatively stable. Take this for what it is worth to any of you, but for me and in my humble yes humble opinion, this proves without a shadow of a doubt this is A SOFTWARE RADIO UPDATE ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY HTC. KEVIN
[HD2 General] lquigley:
Point proved, Kevin,

""""No radio update yet but trust me their will be and probably within 1-2 months my sources tell me. Now if I was as some of you say arrogant, always wanting credit for helping others, why would I share this with all of you which none of you would have otherwise known? Because I am a good, honest person. Kev""""

Because how would anyone not be able to give you credit? You make sure everyone knows Its coming from you! Most good techs would just state the fact & go on, not you. I'll give you "credit" for that! lmao. Most good ,honest, people don't have to advertise it, It's just a fact people can tell, even on a phone forum!
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Thanks cortez.i. Gonna dig in and see whats there for the 1.66 wwe rom.

Whats up with this line? Is this a typo? "ItemName4"="UMTS(2100+800)"

These values are only for what you see in the menu. I dont believe they have any actual affects though. Especially seeing someone fudged in the umts1900 which the HD or the HD2 doesnt actually have for any version.

Phone has been running stable for 2 days now. Constant 3-4 bars H for me. And no stuck connection. Trying out radio 2.08.50.08_2 right now. I dont really expect much difference but I'll give it a try. Might be that the snow is melting here off the towers.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Lol,

No reply necessary. Junior member green behind the ears.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
Just to throw my experience into the thread: I've had no issues with the newer radios - currently running 2.08 w/ Miri's 3.2 6.5.x ROM and besides some OS issues that are known bugs - it's running great.

But if you find better performance from the stock radio, so be it :)
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
What do you think of Miri's rom? Been thinking of a custom rom. Too many to keep up with. What have you gained or lost with it? Reading through all the threads many still have some bugs. Just want an honest opinion of it to try on my T9193. What all extras does it have?

I have tried many radios. Never really noticed a difference myself. My phone is kept charging most of the time so I cant say for battery life. It seems the stock telstra radio version was also included in some other european branded roms. So I dont believe it was specially made for the 850umts band.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
I don't think Miri's ROM has any particular advantages over another. Most ROMs nowadays offer 6.5.x with Office Mobile 2010 (threaded emails... which I usually turn off anyways), the latest version of Sense, etc.

It was just a popular option that happens to include Tom's Autoinstall so just throw your cabs into an appropriately named folder on your SD card and everything should fall into place.

In terms of bugs, the most prominent one I see is the dialer moving to the top right on occasion (in which case you can just rotate the phone and you can still use it) but I don't believe that is Miri's fault.

I was thinking about trying out Eugenia or Artemis next, something extensively tweaked.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
@mazzarin

Thanks for the response. I believe I might stay stock for right now. Shouldnt be too long before the next official rom is out. I see there is a pre release Telstra version on the forum now. I believe it was 1.73. Might just be their branded version of the 1.66 rom.
[HD2 General] Fallen Spartan:
Right, I stepped in previously in this thread due to posts by certain members. The bickering has continued even though a warning was issued. As no one seems to listen, I have been left with only one choice.

Thread is closed until further notice. I will be PM'ing a few members as well

Rick

p.s. I believe another member is going to open a similar thread soon enough ;)
[HD2 General] Fallen Spartan:
I've decided to re-open this thread as it is useful to others.

However, if bickering continues from anyone, I will close it again permanently. This really is last chance saloon!!

Rick
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Thanks Rick much appreciated and we will all get along I can assure you!!! To all,

I have been harsh in my answers to some and I will not do this ever again. PROMISE. BEST BEHAVIOR. KEVIN
[HD2 General] matthewf01:
Hey guys, I spoke to a moderator about opening up a thread as a more organized 'information repository' to help out any new guys who are considering the T9193, as well as members needing support.

If theres any information you think we should collect, let me know so we can keep things up to date.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5629256
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Official Telstra Pre-Release ROM and more importantly new Radio

I am uploading this for all of your benefit shortly to my Rapid share Account where you can download it if you wish. This is great news for all of us with fluctuating radio/data connection issues for hopefully Telstra, I mean HTC fixed the software radio bug. I am testing ROM now and will post observations this evening for all of you. Thanks, Kevin
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Here is the r-share telstra rom link.

https://ssl.rapidshare.com/cgi-bin/premiumzone.cgi?savedfiles=1&forbiddenfiles=0

1st time I have ever uploaded to rapid share and not sure if I did it correctly but please let me know if this link works or not and if no I will try and correct. Kevin http://rapidshare.com/files/3509915...CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Test.rar
[HD2 General] d.cortez:
the link takes me to my premium account...
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
try it now cortez just fixed it i think. kevin
[HD2 General] d.cortez:
got it... thanks....
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=632957&highlight=telstra

Thread on XDA with the newer Telstra branded rom.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
I know this is the one I already uploaded for everyone and am testing now. Kevin
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Thanks Kevin. When you get it installed can you or cotez.i please do me a favor and check the Band Type in the registry and post your findings. The cab that cortez.i posted earlier seems to be incorrect for the HD2. It should look something like this.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\BandType]

"ItemValue5"=dword:00000005

"ItemName5"="GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850)"

"ItemValue4"=dword:00000004

"ItemName4"="GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(850+2100)"

"ItemValue3"=dword:00000002

"ItemName3"="GSM(1900)+UMTS(850)"

"ItemValue2"=dword:00000001

"ItemName2"="GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)"

"ItemValue1"=dword:00000000

"ItemName1"="Auto"

"ItemCount"=dword:00000005

I found this posted by another member. But there might be a typo in it. It seems a dword value was skipped (00000003 in particular) and I want to reference it with an actual copy to see if it is correct or infact a typo.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Happy to Ago just about to install now so your timing is perfect. It won't be until later though say mid late aft for I want to test this newer radio most of all for if it does what you and I and everyone here thinks and corrects the signal problem I WILL FREAKIN JUMP FOR JOY. KEVIN
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Ago, just quickly in the registry now and I think the best way for it is very confusing is for me to take hopefully clear photos of the registry and post them for you and others in like 3 hrs. Item value 1-5 listed 2 times, 1st section all filled in, i.e. matches exactly what you said and cortez posted, in second all blank if this makes sense. Talk later. Kevin
[HD2 General] bataHD2:
Hi Kevin,

What is the best ROM for HTC HD2 T9193. I'm working here in Mexico, Ciudad Juarez to be exact, Telcel confirmed to me that they can support 3G (850Mz) (using TELCEL Carrier)?:confused:
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Quite busy now so will pm you my reply in like one hr. Is this ok with you? Kevin
[HD2 General] doctajay:
seems like a great idea. i just made the switch and will report back. why did you chose WCMDA instead of GSM though? I thought we use GSM in the USA?
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
For ago and everyone photos of registry.

http://profile.imageshack.us/user/kevinrirvine/

Photos of the registry and hopefully they are clear enough for all of you. If not I will take more or write them down. Testing rom for a little over 2 hrs now and so far so good. Will give detailed report tonight on my findings especially the newer radio. Stay tuned. Kevin
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
ago,

what exactly, yes exactly do you want me to do in the registry? Make the changes cortez i laid out or just tell you what is there in the settings with no changes? Let me know soon and then I will write everything down or try and import my photos to the thread. Might work might not. K
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
Importing photos of the telstra rom registry.

Hopefully this works otherwise will hand write them down for all. K
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
Thanks. Your 3rd pic tells me everything i want to know. There is no setting 3 on the testra rom. Dword values are 0,1,2,4,5 on telstra. I am going to try these values and see if they actually make a difference.

I wish a dev could pull the actual radio settings from the rom so these values actually get used.
[HD2 General] kevinrirvine:
YOUR WELCOME AGO AND GLAD YOUR HAPPY. I am not a dev or tech at all and you must be reading my mind as we speak, but my next project which will take several hrs is to pull this rom apart with a tool called NBH EXTRACT to get out the most important part for all of us who need it and then post at my r-share account the nbh radio file

I successfully did this going back 2-3 yrs and hopefully it will all come back to me, yet I do know it is far from easy yet I am feeling good today. Stay tuned. Kev
[HD2 General] bataHD2:
Hi Kevin,

Thanks in advance.

I will wait your best idea.

Bata