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[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
actually, telus will accept an unlocked htc dream, on their site there is a place to put in ur imei and it will tell u if its capable, and my dream was, so im guessing the magic would be too.

so our phones are usefull on other networks if thats the route you wanna take

me im waiting for milestone then switching to telus.
[G1 Android Development] teknoname:
So has anyone who had HSDPA/EDGE data restored, and who had it restored for more than a couple of hours (Ie didn't lose it again 30 minutes after getting it) subsequently lost their data again?

I'm trying to decide if it's safe to take my phone out of Airplane mode.
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
ive had my data since the day it got cut off for all of us, got restored and havent had it go away once.

network refresh

+

download the update from htc site via my s/n
[G1 Android Development] copolii:
Screw You, Rogers!

God damn it, I'm forced into the same piece of **** crippled ROM that I was so happy to get away from.

... and the ***** from Rogers tells me I have 'options' ... 1- pay $300 and get out of my contract, 2- Get a new phone at subsidized pricing (and renew my contract for another 3 miserable years), 3- Get new phone at full price

Those aren't options!

When you screw someone, the least you can say is 'Thanks'

Their dip**** 'Tech Support' moron didn't have a clue what I was talking about ... the moron just kept repeating that I have to install their crippled piece of **** ROM to get my internet back and when I asked for a supervisor the retard hangs up. So I hung up on the 'options' ***** ... I figured the least I could do was to return the favor!

I've filed my complain with the CCTS and as soon as Telus brings in the Moto Milestone, I'll tell Rogers to take their service and shove it.

I want my root back :(
[G1 Android Development] uglymale:
Just called bold support and told them my internet was intermittent. She told me my sim card was from 2006 and I needed to upgrade it. Told her my friend had the same problem and they did a "network refresh?". She says she can do that no problem but be sure to update my sim card. Pulled battery and now have 3g back. Thanks guys, that was kinda fun.
[G1 Android Development] godofthesms:
HAHAH

Everyone is about to receive an sms from Rogers saying:

All your phones are belong to us!
[G1 Android Development] fastludeh22:
I'm pretty sure rogers 3g is compatiable with usa att 3g. Not sure if att is anywhere outside of us though.

Has anyone fig out what they are scanning for yet? Once it is, I'm sure we can spoof it. Also someone with "upgrade" should post build number and such so you can give proper number when calling.
[G1 Android Development] FaJu:
+1 for the network refresh here at 12:40 (UTC-7), Calgary. I'll post updates on when/if it goes out again.

Specifically I called Blackberry tech support from my Dream and told the guy my *other* phone crapped out and I'm using a BB until I get it back. He said my data plan isn't meant to work with BB, so I asked him if he could do a network refresh anyway just for my peace of mind. Et voilà!

Update: So it's 10:55 at night two days later and my data is still good.
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
firmware 1.5

build number 1.89.631.1

for rogers new rom numbers.

i am still runnin 3g strong since the day it went down. network refresh+s/n download from htc site.
[G1 Android Development] no_cannabis:
Magic after update:

Firmware version: 1.5

Baseband version: 63.18.55.06KU_6.35.10.18

Kernel version: 2.6.27-5b476e83

Build number: 3.05.631.7
[G1 Android Development] no_cannabis:
Is anyone familiar with the process of filing CRTC complains? Should we all log one, so they investigate on Rogers?
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
There are SO MANY complaints against rogers that it will literally take YEARS before any complaint today is read by anyone.
[G1 Android Development] no_cannabis:
True. But if CRTC gets 10 thousands complaints about the same subject, they will surely notice.
[G1 Android Development] teknoname:
I just took my phone off airpline mode for the first time since I got 3G back yesterday and received an "UICC Update Fail 2" error.

Googling indicates the UICC is the SIM card. Is this something I need to be concerned about? What is Rogers trying to push out now?
[G1 Android Development] dawgbone98:
nevermind...
[G1 Android Development] copolii:
I filed one a long time ago. No one gives a damn. As long as you have money and your customers on contracts you can screw them anyway you like.

We've got a massively corrupted system in Canada. Ted Rogers could stuff your bum and CRTC will be screaming "BRAVO Mr. Rogers, Marvelous!"
[G1 Android Development] xaueious:
Can someone confirm the build string of the Rogers HTC Dream after the update?
[G1 Android Development] b3395617:
I just got my 3g back, 18 hrs after flashing the updated, still hate the rom.
[G1 Android Development] el_pablo:
Okay, I did the update yesterday. I called the technical support, told them I was under Win 7, the guy sent me an email with all the yadayada. Instead of installing the mentionned update in the email, I took the one from the first post.

Here are the info on my phone :

SPL 1.33.2005

Radio-3.22.26.17

Build : RA-dream-v1.5.2R

Kernel 2.6.27-d5acf552

Build number 1.89.631.1 146733

Can I still install the cyanogenmod?
[G1 Android Development] westway11:
No, you cannot flash any custom ROM after updating (downgrading?) to the official Rogers one.

Dr.killphd posted this, it explains why you can't:

"SPL 1.33.0010 is pushed preventing fastboot writes to the phone.

The final kick in the face is that they patch the exploit used to root the android OS via flashrec-1.1.2-20090909."
[G1 Android Development] olearyp:
Handiest exploit ever.

Can you still goldcard the phone? In that case you could "upgrade", then downgrade (with the goldcard), then get back to a custom build. It's a pain, but probably the only option you have left.
[G1 Android Development] DigitalN.:
Is anyone else still getting those text messages from Rogers after just getting a network refresh?
[G1 Android Development] copolii:
I'll let you know in a few minutes :)

So I have my goldcard, but it doesn't seem to work ... The RUU complains that the bootloader is the 'wrong version' and if I dump the nbh file on the gold card and boot into HBOOT it does a bunch of things and then decides that the firmware version is 'older' and fails the update.

I am extremely annoyed. **** you Rogers. Eat $h!t and die.
[G1 Android Development] gmupps:
I did my refresh at 0300 monday (PST), and have gotten four texts (two in each of our official languages), and one phone call. I'm tempted to phone them asking them to stop the texts, but then I might lose data again. On the other hand, I found a guy who will unlock my handset for 40 bucks, and I'm 99% certain that my handset will work on Telus. I'll also be saving about 10 bucks a month if I switch. Having my data cut off again will give me an easy out on my Contract, and being month to month with Telus will be nice, as I can get a Nexus one as soon as Wind mobile comes to Victoria. (The N1 is unfortunately not compatible with any other Canadian operator at this time.)
[G1 Android Development] b3395617:
Tried Goldcard, a fail for me
[G1 Android Development] ZeroGDarius:
guys as long as you follow the post on the first or second page about flashing the rogers rom, you keep the good SPL i can confirm this i still got my handy recovery so that when this blows over CM is going right back where it belongs
[G1 Android Development] copolii:
Yes, but if you read this thread after you've already downgraded to that **** rom, then these instructions don't exactly mean anything. You've already lost the hackable SPL with no way back (as of yet). I'm pretty sure every one is aware of that.

maybe if someone can get on freenode irc servers we can get cyanogen to see if he can figure it out. I, for some reason, can't connect to freenode.

We need a way to get this damn thing off our phones. It's disgusting and it smells like Rogers.
[G1 Android Development] ezterry:
Correct you need to flash the rom w/o the locked SPL the first time; It's a reminder to always avoid official updates when running custom roms until you see what the community response is.

what you need is to find the original official Rogers "DREAIMG.nbh" file (not my newer one from the e911 fix version)... this will likely "Downgrade" you to the version with the e911 hack since it ought to have a valid rogers signature on it but I can't promise anything. If it works then you can root your phone like you did originally.

Happy hunting.. (I see requests for that version of the file.. but not the actual file)
[G1 Android Development] Houka420:
I have 2 Dreams(1 is rooted with the latest Cyan rom, the other is stock firmware) If I put my sim into the non-rooted phone & do the update, call rogers & get the flag lifted, will I be able to re-insert my sim into the rooted phone & have data again or will they flag it again & cut data?
[G1 Android Development] copolii:
According to RoJerks and other posts here, the scan runs regularly on the network, so you're likely to get cut again. but it's worth a try I guess.
[G1 Android Development] Houka420:
That's what I thought. I'll try anyway & see what happens. Probably will just get flagged again.
[G1 Android Development] :
the scan is not running anymore never was. this is just a wishwash by rogers to scare you into using their goddamn rom, wake up people. I had my 3g back every since they cut it on sunday, SINCE SUNDAY and everything works. Network refresh and thats it.
[G1 Android Development] copolii:
Bad news ... A few of us have already tried that. Various update methods ***** about different things, but they all ultimately say you can't downgrade. I tried a gold card to no avail.

I've been up all night trying to figure this out, but there just doesn't seem to be a way out.
[G1 Android Development] SpencerElliott:
No, I've been unblocked and then blocked again. I had used an updated Magic and everything was fine. When I put the SIM back into my Dream it was blocked again within 36 hours and now I'm having issues getting data working on my Magic again.
[G1 Android Development] fastludeh22:
What happens if you use an orignal g1 .nbh file on rogers dream?
[G1 Android Development] trendz:
I can confirm this worked on the previous rogers firmware 1.86.... I erroneously was following the wrong write up (US G1) and loaded the G1 nbh file....actually worked though.
[G1 Android Development] EvilGuyWhoEatsBrains:
Just to summarize the current situation... Is this correct?

1) If you installed the 911 update you are now no longer able to root the phone.

2) It's not possible to roll back to a previous version then root the phone.

3) If you've called in for a "network refresh" to turn your data back on; Rogers is still scanning to see if you applied the update. If you haven't, they'll turn the data back off.

4) Rogers is full of fail.
[G1 Android Development] tahnok:
I have called Rogers about 5 times with no success. I also tried the live chat too to no avail.

1st time I tried telling them I was running a custom ROM and that I wasn't affected, so would you give me access. He said nope, you gotta upgrade

2nd time called and told them I had upgraded, but it wasn't back yet. He told me to wait 24 horus

3rd time I called iPhone support and asked for a network refresh, but that didn't work

4th time was on live chat, and I asked for a network refresh, but it didn't help me at all.

5th time was today when I pretty much lost it with the tech support guy, telling him I wasn't affected by the bug, but he still didn't do anything

6th time I told them it's been over 36 hours since upgrading, with no 3g and the guys said he would file a report with the "network guys" and asked for IMEI and build number and stuff, so I gave it to them, but nothing has happened yet...

I've repeatedly rebooted my phone after each step hoping that it would magically fix itself, but it hasn't worked.

Anyone have any other options I should try?
[G1 Android Development] teknoname:
There seems to be some debate as to item number 3. Some people are claiming they still have data days after a network refresh, others say their data came back online and then disappeared, yet others are saying the entire "scan" idea is fakery.

I've yet to find any decent sources of accurate information on the issue.
[G1 Android Development] frenchy128:
my story...

Got the text message's and ignored them for the most part considering I was running a custom rom.

1 - Monday during the day, noticed no internet

2 - Tuesday morning called to refresh my phone, Rogers refused and advised to wait 24hr's (1st call)

3 - Wed. still no internet, Called Rogers (2nd Call) advised to remove battery and power on, no internet.

4 - Started Live Chat, requested refresh refused, pull battery and power on..

5 - Open ticket for lvl2 tech, told to wait 48hr's for a response..

sigh...
[G1 Android Development] VGMStudios:
guess Ill have to wait. I have crygens 4.0.4 and radio 2.2 something and dont want to downgrade my fone to that rojerks one.

is there anything I can do in the mean time, like update it to the latest cryogen rom?

please advise.

VGM out...
[G1 Android Development] :
the less information you give Rogers (i.e dont tell them your imei, your sn, your build,) the better , all you have to say you want a network refresh because of intermittent internet , and they will do it . DONT CALL HTC SUPPORT, they will jerk you around and not help. Call general support and simply say network refresh. They are not scanning anything they just say that to scare you into obeying them. THere is nothing in the contract about running Rogers only firmware, you paid for your phone therefore you can do what you want with the phone as long as the hardware itself is not interfering with the network. There is a clause in the contract saying that you cannot use hardware that will interfere with the network, other than that you can do what you want with YOUR PHONE. If it was not your phone you'd get a big sticker on the phone saying PROPERTY OF ROGERS but its not.
[G1 Android Development] fongoid:
Got someone who actually wanted to help me today. Told him I was running a custom ROM, he said there's no way to hit a switch that he knew of. He understands it's stupid and such...he said to upgrade, wait for the scan and then once I have data back to go and do what I want with my phone. I'm going to try the solution from the first page (i.e. image only, no SPL), and see tomorrow.
[G1 Android Development] Silent8Strike:
Well for my fourth call to rogers I got somewhere by telling them that my phone still didn't have data after I updated on Monday. I originally asked for a network refresh and they said they were not allowed to do it anymore. He also repeated the network scanning stuff, claiming that it was still underway. He asked for my build number and my firmware version, which I read of off another post with the new rogers update information in it. After a bit of screwing around with turning the phone off and on the guy said he would put the information in and they would have to manually reset it. Hopefully I get my data back soon.

Also as far as the free Magic upgrade goes I was told to check back in a few days by one person and a few weeks by another. Seems they have no information on if it will be unsuspended or when.
[G1 Android Development] copolii:
DO NOT DO THAT!

That's precisely why a lot of us are stuck with their **** rom. I've been up all night trying to find a away around this, you CANNOT gain root access if you downgrade to their rom. Not even with a goldcard.
[G1 Android Development] alphayoung:
You were right. It didn't help. I waited for 24 hrs and my internet is still disconnected.

I guess I'll need to phone the tech support. The only concern I have is that based on what people said in this thread whether I should lie to them that I already did the update or tell them I'm using a custom ROM and escalate until someone understands what's going on and does a network refresh for me.
[G1 Android Development] copolii:
Lie to them.

Most of them are too much of a ****ing moron to know what a custom rom is. I had to explain it to this dumb **** literally 10 times. He didn't get it ... kept on repeating that I have to install the new rom before I get my 3G back. I asked to speak to a supervisor and worthless sack of **** hangs up on me.
[G1 Android Development] VGMStudios:
thats my problem to. Im not good at talking to ppl over the phone. I get intminated. If there was a script and I could just follow that. but i am wondering since my radio is up to theirs they wont do a network refresh.

Ill prolly just get firmare 1.6 and a new radio from cryogen and then phone in telling them my radio is above thiers so there is nothing they can say about that.

damn you rojerks!!!

VGM out...
[G1 Android Development] g4rules:
A good one! We can also say that our bank is upgrading their system and asked account holders to wait until further notice. :-)

This is crazy. I have the original Rogers HTC Dream and my internet s also down.
[G1 Android Development] ezterry:
The solution on page one: /showpost.php?p=5440198&postcount=6

Will let you install anything since you keep the Engineering SPL Just fastboot whatever you want back to the phone.. (just be very careful of restoring radio images...)

Everyone is stuck because they used the rogers installer which replaces the SPL.
[G1 Android Development] Houka420:
I just got off the phone with a rep from Rogers. I lied to her and told her I did the update yesterday(even though my phone is rooted & i haven't done the update) & she told me that if I did the update that my data would be turned back on within 24hrs. I then asked her how would they know if I had done the update & all she kept repeating was that if I did the update my data would be turned back on within 24hrs. So how exactly can they tell which firmware you're running or if you've done the update or not?
[G1 Android Development] Tahahm:
Totally agreed. I use my switch/solo card to make payments and you must upgrade your system to receive any furthur payments from me. :P

Im not gona make any payments at all until rogers puts its **** back together and sorts it out for me. Sue me , screw me but ultimately this is gona end up at the better business bureau right? That way they will know what 'ROBBERS' is up to.
[G1 Android Development] dash4g:
The $$$Million Dollar Question$$$ Remains!

Unless we get someone from the inside leaking some info, we may never know, but I think reading all the posts here, screw rogers and lie lie lie lie. The customer is always right. If they say you haven't upgraded, ensure them you have,

and mention you lost all your contacts and apps and are in a real ****ty situation because of it

.

If they ask for specific information, tell them something about 1.6 rom firmware (and maybe tell them you can call 911 now with the new upgrade) there is someone who posted their upgraded rogers info in this thread

can someone post a full screenshot of their "about page" on their upgraded Rogers Rom? I think this is the information they may want to verify... it would be very useful to those having to deal with this
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
cant take screenshots unless your rooted :P gotta take a picture of your phone :P
[G1 Android Development] ysdoho:
i think i figured out some parts :P i called rogers yesterday, waited for 2 hours and got fed up. so i called today and told them i am using a UNLOCKED GSM phone and dont use the dream as much... i also told them that my data was down because i got a 3 year contract and got a dream. then i asked for a network refresh... somehow the guy started going off about if he does that its not gonna help me in anyways and he is going to get fired if he does. so i told him that i called yesterday and was process of RESET not network refresh.. then the guy finally recognized where i was going and set my account up so it says i am using an Unlocked GSM phone... i asked him if he needed my IMEI of my unlocked GSM and the guy said that would be not needed for some reason... then i asked him if could i perhaps use my dream with the current SIM card... he said you could but as soon as you plug in the SIM card in the dream, rogers will scan and block you off data again so unless you update you will not get your data on the dream device....

so... i am guessing there is something to do with when you insert your SIM card into the dream, rogers will recognize it? probably the IMEI that detects whether you are on their network or not :P
[G1 Android Development] dash4g:
I call bull****, these guys have been told what to say, I think it would be to resource demanding to keep a log of every dream imie and block it...

Ah, the irony, but would be still useful information
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
if you login to www.rogers.com with your account all on there , when u go to upgrade handset, it shows that im using an htc dream there with a picture beside it.

so i guess they can tell which phone you are using.
[G1 Android Development] dash4g:
but did you sign a contract that says its a dream?

if you put your sim card into an old 1999 nokia cell phone I doubt it would change and say "old 1999 nokia cell phone" with a picture of it...
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
my contract is a blackberry bold 9000

i just use my dream, sold the blackberry
[G1 Android Development] gmupps:
If you read the instructional pdf from Rogers, there is a screen cap with build number etc.
[G1 Android Development] kevwo:
has anyone who did the update received any text from Rogers to do the upgrade? From yesterday, either text or an automated msg?
[G1 Android Development] dash4g:
Rooted with Cyanogen, and I keep got those messages @2:00pm monday and tuesday, and i replied with "stop"

I also got a recorded message that I hung up on.
[G1 Android Development] kevwo:
lmao. i replied "its done". i received the messaged on my htc tytn
[G1 Android Development] ponty13:
Not Possible to Re-root??

Great .. so I stupidly downloaded and applied the upgrade not doing my due diligence first. Of course, now I've come across a hacked Rogers image that won't touch the SPL so you can re-root after the upgrade. Me however--I'm stuck until some brilliant person figures this out.

So far as I can tell, there's no way to flash a recovery--even the flashrec app fails. I've tried downgrading, but it fails too. I haven't tried the "goldcard" method yet, though I've heard it won't work either.

So am I hosed for good, or is there something I've missed .. sure wish I could get past this. I want my phone back (in my control)!! :D
[G1 Android Development] xaueious:
still up since sunday night after network refresh

i applied the build.prop patch to be safe
[G1 Android Development] JamieD81:
whats that build.prob about?
[G1 Android Development] westway11:
Rogers can tell what phone you're using by its unique IMEI. This is how they prevent people from subscribing to the unlimited $7 internet plan unless they have a non-smartphone. There are ways to spoof an IMEI to that of a different phone, but I don't know if such an application exists for the dream.
[G1 Android Development] el_pablo:
My SPL is still 1.33.2005 and the build is RA-dream-v1.5.2R (number I get while holding home button). I use the first post trick.

Can I still install cyanogenmod?