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[General Topics] seancojr:
Well if that rumor turns out to be true then I can only imagine the disappointment of some.
[General Topics] FloatingFatMan:
IF the rumours are true, it'll be a blow for existing software BUT, a good step for Microsof to take. I mean, have you seen the Zune HD's UI? WM7 is meant to be using that, and if so, iPhone is in trouble. :p
[General Topics] Rudegar:
well if it runs .net then at least some apps would work
[General Topics] CommanderThor:
There is even newer rumor or supposedly unofficial response from microsoft, about this CE rumor. Ant it states, that Wm 7 bill be using CE7. And CE7 was already offcialy announced as to it will be using ARMv6 arhitecture.

And there is a Microsoft Commercial, where you can see some WM7-style thing beeing run on HTC touch Pro, and Xperia X1. So ported it will be, but how fast will it work on such devices, having only MSM7200.
[General Topics] malatesta:
It's false.

I don't know if it definitely CE7, though it probably is. I am hearing that it can run 6.x apps so long as they are the same resolution. Trying to get more info.
[General Topics] Shasarak:
6.5 is for cheaper, lower-specification hardware. Remember that the HD2 represents the least powerful, lowest resolution device capable of running WM7. Any new WM phone with a hardware spec in any way inferior to the HD2 will run WM6.5 instead of 7.
[General Topics] Sina™:
read this:

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12237

there's only 1 choice left for us: 100% stable android rom.
[General Topics] Win_XP:
I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too :)
[General Topics] JesusFreak316:
Yeah, I reeeeeally don't think there will be an official WM7 rom for my Fuze, but I'm hoping the chefs here will be able to make a stripped down version.
[General Topics] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
I'm not 100% sure about that. The problem is that Windows Mobile 7 will run on either Windows CE 6 or 7, as opposed to the Windows CE 5 comprising Windows Mobile 5.x and 6.x. Someone will likely have to create nearly every low level component from scratch, so the OS will support the older unsupported hardware. It might be doable, but it won't be as simple as running 6.5 on a WM 6 device. There's a thread here which goes into more detail concerning Windows Mobile 7 on a current generation device (Touch Pro2), and it doesn't look good.
[General Topics] FloatingFatMan:
Until MS officially announce something, everything we hear about WM7 is going to be rumour; and one rumour can't refute another because they're both just that, rumours.

We'll have to see if they drop any more info in Feb.
[General Topics] ramdroid77:
Well it was also possible to run 6.5 on PPC 2003 devices. Probably not really stable but it was possible. but anyway I don't really care. 6.5.x will stay on my Topaz and I'll pick up a new phone for WM 7 of course ;)
[General Topics] Sina™:
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/01/18/everything-you-need-to-know-about-windows-mobile-7/
[General Topics] Shasarak:
Yes, but every version of Windows Mobile from 5.0 onwards has been based on the same Windows CE kernel; that's one reason why other OSes (like Android) run so much faster than WinMo on the same hardware, and permit 720p video recording, etc. - a lot of the underlying code in WinMo hasn't been upgraded in six years.

To put it in desktop PC terms, going from Windows Mobile 5.0 all the way up to WinMo 6.5 is the equivalent of going from Windows 95 to Windows ME - it's still basically the same OS, just with a few tweaks to the UI. By contrast, going to WM7 will be like going from Windows ME to Windows Vista - a completely different operating system kernel, with a completely different driver model.

The drivers will be the biggest problem. Unless there is some device out there that officially runs WM7 and which uses exactly the same component as one on your target platform, there simply won't be anywhere you can get a driver file from; and even if such a thing exists, piecing together complete support for every component of a device by picking and choosing driver files from many different platforms would be an enormous effort.

There is a reasonable chance that we will see WM7 running on the HD2, even if there isn't an official release; that's because HTC is apparently using the HD2 as a WM7 development platform, so if someone leaks the ROM they use for testing, the cooks here could probably cobble together something reasonable using it as a basis. But for any other device, realistically there is no chance at all.
[General Topics] Badwolve1:
Look Here

Its CE 7.0

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=618631
[General Topics] Rudegar:
odd would be the first time ever ms made a wm release based on a ce core not available already and tested for stability
[General Topics] Sina™:
READ BEFORE POSTING PLEASE:

MWC is a few weeks away – it starts on February 15 – and we’re expecting to see a new version of Windows Mobile, version 7, to be launched with hardware soon to follow. We’ve heard some rumors about potential improvements over the current 6.x codebase, but a developer has told us that this new version is so distant from the old WinMo that it is almost unrecognizable. The worst part? It is completely non-backwards compatible, meaning all WinMo apps are about go extinct.

First, WinMo 7 is essentially a copy of the Zune HD’s kernel. It comes in one screen size and will work best on OLED devices. Microsoft will give official specs to hardware makers and force them to comply or else refuse them access to the OS. This includes a regimented screen and RAM size as well as a minimum processor speed. If you haven’t guessed, Microsoft is about to get all Apple up in this piece.

The UI looks just like the Zune HD’s with some phone controls built-in. The HD has defined the interface and the use case here, so expect a capacitive multi-touch screen with plenty of media controls.

Now for the nuts and bolts: WinMo 7 has no background processing and will use an Apple-like notification service. There is no system resource access and no threaded processes. In fact, there is no customization at all.

WinMo 7 will not run 6.x code. End of story. It is based on Silverlight and .Net. Everything save a few basic programs will not work under WinMo 7. There is no expectation that this will be a “business device” and the focus is currently on games including some XBox Live functionality for gaming and messaging. There will be a Microsoft App store with an easy approval process.

There is no visual voicemail, probably for patent reasons. As for developers, they’re kind of pissed. As far as we can tell they’re not quite sure they want to take the steps necessary to move over to the new platform. This is a Hail Mary pass and could mean huge changes in the WinMo ecosystem. This could also mean Zune sync software for the Mac, something that we expected when pigs flew.

Special thanks to our fearless tipster.

all of them (google, microsoft, palm & others) just copy from iphone os, so the best choice is android.

port android for win mobile phones or buy an iPhone.

the main advantage of iphone is strong 3rd party support, everybody cares about iphone, but what about win mobile?

microsoft & palm are big losers of mobile os war.
[General Topics] sprinttouch666:
?????????????? zune hd runs on ce6.2!

im sure that WM7 will run on ce7 (considering its built from the ground up) and my best guess would be only emulatuon of wm6.X programs (snapdragon is very capable of that)
[General Topics] Sina™:
end of discussion ...
[General Topics] StuartMaher:
Gotta wonder about the reliacbility of your source there. The first item I have quoted here looks wrong as there are already two strong rumoured phones out there and they are 2 different resoloutions (HTC TD3 device @ 800x480 and an LG device, Apollo I think at 1280 x 720).

I can't imagine there will be no background processing. If it's built on CE and aimed at multicore processors. And saying it will not support multi thread is crazy as .NET is heavily threaded.

Lastly, I cannot for a second imagine microsoft will turn it's back on the buisness phone market, which is the one place it is actually doing quite well!

There are credible rumours, and there are ones that don't seem realistic. I'm afraid the rumours you have here have a lot of points firmly ion the not realistic camp.

Stu
[General Topics] ramdroid77:
still no end of discussion?

I can't image CE 7 is re-invented from scratch. it's more likely it's based on CE 6, which is based on CE 5 etc. So everything is just the same. more features. few things not working anymore. same like switch from Windows 95 to Windows XP, XP to Vista etc.

oh, and the rumour that CE 5 apps aren't working anymore but .NET is working is absurd because .NET is nothing but a wrapper around the native WM SDK, which is part of the kernel.
[G1 Apps and Games] vettejock99:
Hey all,

I had Wikitude on my phone but uninstalled it because I was not getting the latest update and now I cannot find it in the Market. I am running Manup's 2.1-v1.5 and I can see paid apps and I think protected (isn't Bettercut one of those), but I cannot find Wikitude by name or pulling the devs other app.

Anyone care to guess why?

Thanks,

vj99
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] playdo:
Hey Guys,

I am searching for the "window class" of QIP PDA so I can add it to registry.

Is there the possibility to find out which windows class QIP has?

I searched the registry a bit already, but didn't find anything.

Opera 10 for example has an "info" folder which provides this information.

Thanks for any help/tips!

greetz

playdo
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] playdo:
Finally found something myself :cool:

I had to fight through a russian site, but there it is.

But you have to read it yourself.
[HD2 General] hyuk_19:
My battery is draining like crazy due to the 2gb Micro SD that comes as standard.

However, I'm looking to buy a 16gb class 6, (specifically Peak 16gb card) but I don't necessarily want to part with the cash if I'm still going to have the same issues.

So, on to my question: Is there a specification I should be looking for on a Micro SD card that allows it preserve power - or at least not drain all of my battery? :confused:

Thanks! :)
[HD2 General] pat12:
What makes you so sure it's the Micro SD that's draining your battery? The HD2 has a very poor autonomy anyway. Have you compared battery drain with and without the microSD inserted?
[HD2 General] hyuk_19:
Yes, completely sure it's the micro SD as I have tested the battery life without the SD inserted and it's improved substantially.
[HD2 General] malex1:
I would guess you have a faulty SD card, as it should not use any battery power except when being read or written to.

In normal use, memory card should make no difference to battery life.
[HD2 General] waxfresh:
Same Problem here.. my Samsung 8gb Class 6 SD drains battery like crazy!
[HD2 General] krijger:
I use an Sandisk 8 GB speed 4 and have no problems.
[HD2 General] Sander:
How long can you use it with the sd card in it?
[HD2 General] Marwyn:
My solution...

Hi, yeasterday i got my trandscend 8GB class 6 microSDHC card and i put it into phone. Phone goes lagy and drain battery like mad. I try to get some information on internet, but without succes, so i decide to try something myself :)

1. test card in computer (using 3 different readers) = no problem

2. test card in digital camera (using 2 different camera) = no problem

3. test in HD2 again = problem :(

4. get back my old class 4 card and no problem...

5. find 5 differencies game begins...

so, i found that my not working card is formated with 32k blocks, so i reformat card in PC to 4096 block size and put it into phone... and now it works without problem in phone!

final solution (works for me):

1. format with 4096 block size

2. put card to phone and wait till it creates his DB files in document folred on card

3. remove it from phone and copy your data to card

4. put card back to phone

3. test result and write respons here :)

I hope it will help
[HD2 General] moin786:
yes surely the micro sd card that comes from HTC drains the battery...its the main culprit!!!

My phone was laggy and slow

Once I had my battery level at 86% so i removed the card restarted the phone...

to my wonder the battery level showed 87% and the performance of the phone was like 2x...

i was really shocked!!!!

So surely its the microsd card problem..

all the members must test their phones battery performance without the card in it...

also i will try the above procedure to format the card and will post the results...
[HD2 General] ibericus:
Marwyn,

what a clever idea you had! Thanks a Lot!

I've been experiencing microSD card freezes with my new SanDisk 16Gb - it was disappearing and reappearing in file explorer, or sometimes hanging the device completely.

Formatting in the phone with bundled utility didn't help, but formatting with win7 ad this small block size helped 100% - now it works like charm.

This solution is not obvious - so I think it deserves to be put in the FAQ.

Thanks again
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
Is it possible to format with 4096 block size in XP? How?

Doesn't this waste a ton of space on the card compared to a 32 block size?
[HD2 General] aceo07:
4096 block means each file will take at least 4096 bytes. Most of your files are at least this size, so it won't matter much.
[HD2 General] s2k_vdu:
I have the same poor battery performance problem. I use an 8gb clas 4 Silicon Power sdhc. After reading this post, i format it with 4096 but the benchmark gave to me smaler speeds, so i make it back with 32.

I used Pochet Mechanic. Hardware performance index, 691 (4096) and 751 (32). At file system read and write speed was double with 32.

Till now everything i tried was unsuccessfully. Power cord unplugged about 1 o'clock in the night for having the alarm near me in the morning, i wake up at 7 with 15% battery :mad:
[HD2 General] Marwyn:
1. I am glad to share expirience...

2. Speed is not that bad in 4096 blok size, because there is no need to be fastest but working :p I hope for some drivers patch...

Please share if you find some other solution (now i am happy for working card no matter of speed)
[HD2 General] Marwyn:
it's 4096 bytes vs 32 kilobytes means 32*1024 bytes block size, so waste is 32k block size. Anyway in these days with 8,16 and soon 32GB card 32k blocks are OK. Speed can be different, for reading big files like photos is better bigger block size and for small is no difference. So, explanation, for DB and applications where we need huge files on file system, use maximum block size and for small files use small blocks, because all files are "rounded" to size of block (1byte file occupies 32kilobytes on media with 32k block size)
[HD2 General] s2k_vdu:
Of course, this is the idea, to share experience. Lucky me i bought the first bigger card i found in short time, and i didn't have problems with it.

I found the problem that bothered me: i uninstalled the antivirus (NOD). 6% battery overnight, and now in the evening still have 70% power. :)
[HD2 General] bel_z_bub:
just a note, your battery will do much better if you charge it unpowered.. (like with usb). I think it also helps to drain it completly at least once before you use it..

I drained it last night playing a video untill it died, then again with bootloader, charged with usb over night.. I can't believe I have still 80% left after today.. haven't played much with it but made for an hour worth of calls and 10 smss.. and every auto update you can think of is enabled every hour.. bluetooth headset connected all day..

btw I have a sandisk 16gb HC card, I formatted it with the phone before I used it, as that seemed logical..
[HD2 General] donalgodon:
Sorry for the dumb question, but how can one charge it unpowered? Does the HD2 charge via USB port?
[HD2 General] caspar007:
Either you switch OFF your Leo (long pressing red button) or enter the bootloader-modus. I prefer a complete switch-off, so that the battery itself decides its full :D

and YES, it is a usb port :-P
[HD2 General] jagr:
the micro sd battery drain problem, does it drain battery only when the device is turned on? or even in standby mode
[HD2 General] s2k_vdu:
1. yes, before the NOD problem, i lost al power overnight (5 hours) in standby

2. @bel_z_bub it's ok what are you saying, just that for me it's difficult to keep phone closed
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Maximenis:
Wondering if anyone can help me with this or has experienced the same...

I got a used XDA Orbit with a cracked LCD screen, when I booted it up the screen came on and was partially usable above the crack. I decided to order a new screen to fix it, and after putting the new one in the screen doesn't light up at all. I thought, maybe the new screen is bad, so I put the old screen back in but it won't light up either. Any ideas?

FYI I have experience in repairing cellphones and flashing and unlocking, etc., and I have learned ALOT from xda-developers (thanks all you guys, you are incredibly helpful, generous and intelligent!). I'm stumped on this situation, is there something I need to reset or a pressure/contact screw that needs to be in place before the screen will light up? I appreciate all responses!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] k33:
I have exactly the same problem.

After case change from O2 Orbit to Artemis case the screen does not light up at all and there is nothing to see on it. The device boots normally and the touchscreen reacts under Activesync.

I changed to a new screen with the same result and also flashed the ROM with SD-method... the screen remains dark while the device works.

Maybe the antenna contacts of the backcase have all to be fitting, closin some "case open" detection circuit" so the device starts electric power for the screen?

Any help appreciated, love my P3300/Orbit.
[General Questions and Answers] dimmar2010:
Please cann someone to help me how cann iinstal themes on to HTC diamond 2? thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jbomhold:
Is anyone working on adding manila 2.5 to the official WM 6.5 t-mobile rom? What I'm looking for is a rom that changes the version of manila it comes with to 2.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
what you want from t-mobile rom? what is better than HTC?

all package (90%) coming from HD2 and from this moment from 2.02 T mobile HD2

so nothing stay the same from t mobile rhodium rom....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jbomhold:
My issue is most of these roms put out are to customized. I want nothing more then a stock rom running 2.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] NiteFal:
My thaughts exactly
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] npahlavan:
I think they are just too buggy, unstable, and slow. A select few seem to have no issues with these roms tho
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MDANavymom:
I too would like this. I flashed the Stock Rom and it actually worked and my experience with memory was very good, so was the battery. But I really miss Sense 2.5. But with the stock I a Voice Command that actually worked, Telenav that worked and My Account that Worked, I have tried cabs of these but they just didn't work as good as the stock rom. The thing I did not like about the stock rom was v 2.2 of google maps and an old version of NetCF some of my programs would not work. Alas I have come to the conclusion I will have to give up some things in order to have my Sense 2.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwambewright:
you could always install netcf3.5, all the roms i tried the T-Mo account cab i have worked just fine. Just down load the new Gmaps from Google, it works great. I tried the new TMous stock rom and liked it very much but had gotten used to sense 2.5 so am going back custom.
[Nexus One General] anthro:
When I get my unit, I'll make sure that I won't get dust in because it would be very difficult for me to return it or get it fixed. Because the phone's not available in my country, I'm pretty sure that I can't buy accessories for it here.

I think, the solution is putting Gmask on it. I'm lucky that they have branches in my area.

Do you think, it would be a good idea to put Gmask on the Nexus One (to generally protect it and avoid the dust issue)?
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
What is Gmask? Is it like the Invisible Shield?
[Nexus One General] anthro:
I don't know what Invisible Sheild is...

GMask covers handhelds and laptops (and maybe any type of gadget). You bring it to their store then they'll cover the unit 100%, I suppose. I think, their skins are custom made for every device they handle. They also have screen protectors.

According to their website, they support every mobile phone. They show the G1 on www.gmask.com/device/phone
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Ah... I see. It's similar to Invisible Shield and the other clear skin type protectors.

To really make sure your screen is protected from dust (or as much as can be possible), make sure there's no clicking sound when you push on any of the corners. If there is, immediately warm the screen up with a blow dryer for a bit and use moderate pressure to push down on the corners and sides of the screen to seal it properly. Should be fine afterwards.
[Nexus One General] anthro:
Looks like Invisible Sheild has one tailor fit for the Nexus One http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

However, the spaces between the screen and the unit aren't covered so that doesn't assure me that it's a solution for the dust. I hope, they also cover 100% (except the holes and ports, of course)
[Nexus One General] yamanote:
Thanks- I just noticed that there is a bit of dust under the screen and that the bottom left corner clicks. The blow dryer thing worked :) Hopefully now no more dust will go in…
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nokiadashi:
The most weird thing i ever encountered today with my HTC Pro2.

I renamed the folder "Beauties" to "Beauties." with Resco File explorer 2008 (note there is a dot after Beauties).

The Original path is" Storage card/Pictures/Personal pictures/secret/Beauties".

After existing Resco Explorer,I went back to see the folder again,jesus christ, the folder has gone! just disappeared without a trace.

I tried all means,soft reset,Resco Explorer,show all the files and folders, Resco photo viewer, connected with PC etc etc,all of them cannot find this "Beauties." folder.

Inside this Beauties folder,there are many pictures that I collected over years,no no I dont want to lose them.

Is this bug?

Am I being cursed? (lots of porn pictures in this folder as well:cool:)

How to get my folder back??? please help,help,help!!!!!!!!!:(

If there is a way to get the folder back,maybe we will have a best way to enscrypt folders?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] chompx2:
Why don't you sync with your computer and use the MS ActiveSync to explore your phone? It is much easier on the eyes to look for a file on your computer screen than on your phone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nokiadashi:
thanks for suggestion,As I said,I tried all means,including your suggestion. Got nothing.:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] biobas69:
no idea what could have happened.

folders with a period show up fine on my tp2, both in explorer and commander, never used resco though.

ne how, before you do anything else, do the following

remove the sd card,

plug it into a pc,

run a data recovery program on it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nokiadashi:
tried everything,no cure for it.

My conclusion is that after you add period(dot) at the end of the name of the folder,this folder is deleted forever.

A bloody lesson.:o

Bye bye pictures,bye bye ladies.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] myknyte:
Hmm . Files may be gone..

but I'd try another file explorer app if I was you

Total Commander --> http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm

You sure you renamed it xxxxx. and it took? Perhaps you did a typo (accidentally touch the touchscreen thereafter and it's called something else your not expecting?)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] issam1979:
this just happened to me today using resco file explorer!!! dot on the end of a folder bam!!! all folder is gone!