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[Touch HD Android Development] Tigermoto:
A haha

WOW! About time someone made a thread like this. Easy to understand and not having to read 20 billion posts!!! I reckon this should be a sticky.

Nice Work.
[Touch HD Android Development] Makkiezz:
My device is working fine as well with the startup from the rar:

set ramsize 0x10000000

set ramaddr 0x10000000

set mtype 2030

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "lcd.density=210 msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77 clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3"

boot

With the startup txt from the first post I had problems with the g-sensor and I didn't know where to push the buttons right.

I have an error on startup, the error text is "The application Android keyboard (process com.android.inputmethod.latin) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again"
[Touch HD Android Development] aavan:
I have the same errors, there are 2 buttons shown "force close" and "wait" just push "wait" and it will be ok.
[Touch HD Android Development] herpez:
TheBrilliantMistake - please, update new build from today

;)
[Touch HD Android Development] Jal84:
Thanks for the tutorial. I just had a little problem with yout STARTUP.TXT the screen axises are inverted, I mean when it is vertical the display is on landscape mode and when it's horizontal the display is normal, I put back the one on Osamaa's topic and it worked fine (without the mac address)
[Touch HD Android Development] Makkiezz:
I used the strartup from the rar instread, working fine for me. Now will test the build of today.
[Touch HD Android Development] Jal84:
Hey guys, there's a new build from XANDROID >>http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.22.01.7z

I'm going to test it right now
[Touch HD Android Development] Bl@ck:
already tried it a bit, it's working really fine but i can't seem to wake up the phone after a couple of standby, can't understand if the phone is freezed or it just takes some time to wake up since the touch buttons don't vibrate anymore :\
[Touch HD Android Development] Syc:
Just a tip:

The Sleep button on the top is better for waking up the device, less buggy. Remember to press it _once_ and if it doesn't wake up, press the end call button _once_.
[Touch HD Android Development] Domskibus:
Thanks a lot!!!!!
[Touch HD Android Development] Bl@ck:
gonna try it
[Touch HD Android Development] damo_samps:
hi, i am an avid blackstone flasher, trying new roms on a regular basis, i found this thread to be amazing, i have wanting to try an android build on my blackstone for a while but always seems to be to much effort, until this thread!!

I followed the simple step by step instructions, to be greeted with "waiting for sd card" after running haret???

am i being an idiot, and have missed something v.simple?
[Touch HD Android Development] s7yler:
....

Try another SD card, there are problems with some cards afaik....
[Touch HD Android Development] brodos123:
Zedge

Hi I am trying the XDANDROID.22.01.7z and I noticed the Zedge ringtons and wallpapers was beeing downloaded automatically.

Is this normal?
[Touch HD Android Development] ali30349:
Thanks

Dude thanks you are the man I have been trying to troubleshoot this for a while. I am testing now and will def send feedback.
[Touch HD Android Development] twanj:
Thanks!! This is just what i needed. All the info we need. Will get a sd card fast. Any suggestion which cards work best? I believe class will work best?

Twanj
[Touch HD Android Development] 7896zx:
when i boot and it goes to the black screen it does everything and then i get "waiting for SD card" over and over again is this ment to happen?
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
I've updated the opening post with new instructions for the latest build... incorporating the comments folks have made.... esp the Startup.txt file (which I'd incorrectly pasted from the wrong device). It should be correct now!

I do realise that the startup.txt file is included in the package, but it was easier to tell folks the settings than to tell them how to find the right file in the package!... and besides, it helps folks SEE what those settings are when discussing if values need to be changed. So there's a sort of logic of documenting it this way.

I've also added a note about the SD Card issue... since some users have trouble with their SD Cards.

With regards to the 'status' of what's working and what isn't... I'm having to rely purely on my own findings, the documentation, and anecdotes from other users. (The last part is the hardest) because in some cases, I have to 'filter' the evidence.... ie. Some user will say "doesn't boot"... I have to guess it's the user at fault ;-). If 20 users say the same... then I'll believe it :-)

Also, the Opening Post should be the place to get the latest info, not the thread... general rule of thumb should be:

1) The opening post has the latest info (based on the date in the OP).

2) If there's any 'hot off the press' info, you need only look at posts in the thread dated after the OP date (usually a day at the most). So no trawling through hundreds of pages.
[Touch HD Android Development] Syc:
If you try the newest kernel build from http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/ it might work. Some have reported that Class 6 cards works fine now!
[Touch HD Android Development] mcdull:
Yes.. Its me.. reporting my class 6 card works. But I really started trying this card with this new kernel only. So it might be the card was always compatible. For your information, my card is a ADATA Class 6 4Go.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Because it's documented NOT to work... the developers haven't coded this part yet... it will come eventually, but at the moment, you have to be patient, there are bigger problems to solve first... :-)
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
It's a bug... the shortcut was setup for English only... the next release should fix this problem :-)
[Touch HD Android Development] mickael91210:
Hello all and thanks for very good sharing.

I'm using the 1.2 version because i have also "black screen" with 1.3 one. I wanted to know what you are using to have "sense" interface please? Thanks in advance.
[Touch HD Android Development] Dynamic_d:
Yeah thats a good one guys. On the very first post you see all the xandroids with the sence ui. How can we get that?? is there sum kind of kickass theme we can download?? or was that crafty fotoshopping?? cuz if it is it still rules :)

Cheers
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
For the clock, use Weather Donate.... and download the H7C theme

For the sense bar at the bottom... use Open Home... and use Hero Dark theme

There are many other alternatives too...but the standard build doesn't (yet) come with Sense widgets (although you don't actually need them... there's loads of other widgets as good or better)

Sense IS being worked on, but it's messy right now, so I would not advise trying to play with it... as soon as it's usable it will appear as part of the builds, I'm sure!
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
There's a workaround for the black screen in V1.3.. it's on the opening post... BUT I'd advise that folks stick with 1.2 for the moment... V1.3 has so many new parts it's very unstable... I'd avoid it for the moment.
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
Ive a problem with the baattery indicator on the taskbar with 1.2. always show full battery...it's possible to solve? also temporarily waiting for new build?
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Nope, it's well documented in the OP... Battery reading is inconsistent... you can't trust it.

when that's fixed the OP will say so, but until then, we're all in the hands of the developers.

You're not alone my friend! :-)
[Touch HD Android Development] Kenia1234:
Great!!

This workaround actually works pretty well!!

It's a good build but the biggest changes are maybe for Raphael's and Diamond's users...isn't it??
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
:-) thx! ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
how android drains your battery?

my rhodium 100% to 0% in less than 2 hours :eek: with no calls...

Ive a issue returning to WM: my phone no more send-receive sms...
[Touch HD Android Development] brodos123:
Hi TheBrilliantMistake.

Have you tried to use partitioned sd-card? this way the system.sqsh will be "unsqsh" to a ext2/3 partition.

Some people think this makes a faster android.

Do you have an opinion to this?

Thanks!
[Touch HD Android Development] sosojerk:
How can we install HTC Senese UI on top of this build?
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
the first image its only for dreaming...:D
[Touch HD Android Development] jet-27:
brobleme battrys

me too android drains all battery less than 2h

any correctives for that plais
[Touch HD Android Development] juno256:
why do i get a blank screen after android starts loading? is it working in the background or is it just dead?
[Touch HD Android Development] WinningDays:
I don't know how i did, but now i'm able to answer incoming calls, without changed anything :eek:
[Touch HD Android Development] juno256:
Android Loaded and working

however i did not hold on the menu.... :S

looks pretty weird!

why do i get ADS???
[Touch HD Android Development] zeldhaking:
It is maybe a stupid question but how to shutdown or reboot the phone once on Android in the BLACKSTONE without "soft reset" key press?
[Touch HD Android Development] WinningDays:
Un français ! :D

Enlève la batterie ou appuie sur le bouton rouge "reset" avec ton stylet, pour l'instant il n'est pas possible de faire autrement ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] jet-27:
battry

ca chaufe trop la battry et rapidement dechargabe pas de solution ?
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
pas de solution maintenant... ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] PaKo0o:
"Something used micropklt_lcd_ctrl . This function should no longer be used." What is this error ? I get it when I try to load Android. And how do I fix it. Thank you.
[Touch HD Android Development] zeldhaking:
Oki, merci pour ta réponse, je m'en doutais un peu.

Découvrant le monde ANDROID, connais tu une interface clonant celle du HTC HERO?
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
You can't (yet), but you can get Hero style themes (do some searching, I've answered this question a number of times already but will add it to the post)
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Hmmm well, I don't really understand why it needs to be on a diff partition instead of just 'unsquashed' on the same partition... however, it's complicated

Since squash is compressed, it's a trade off... here is a THEORETICAL example...

Read 1000K from ext 2 = 1 second (1 meg per second read)

Read 500K from sqsh = 0.5 second (same speed to read)

IF the data can be decompressed in less than 0.5 seconds then sqsh is better... if not, ext2 is better... so it all depends!

However, the big reasons for NOT having multiple partitions are:

a) It's too complicated for most users, and those that know how to do it probably don't need 'simple install'

b) It's not possible to make a simple installer for multiple partitions in WinMo (not easily at least)

c) I'm not a Linux geek, so would have too much to learn (and I'm too busy!)
[Touch HD Android Development] AndrewSM:
The link for v1.4 is not working - "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable."

Can anyone please upload it somewhere else?

Thanks.

EDIT: Nevermind, it works now.
[Touch HD Android Development] zebiddydoodaa:
I loaded up the latest 1.4 cab today and my phone shut down, kept trying to reboot into windows but never quite made it.

Now its dead as a doornail :(

Anybody know anyways to get it going again or is it a goner?
[Touch HD Android Development] juno256:
if u had HTC Sense on.....switch it off before loading android

if u want to go back to windows...

remove battery and then switch on
[Touch HD Android Development] zebiddydoodaa:
Tried that, it won't turn on, can't even get to bootloader screen. Can't hard reset, can't do anything.:(
[Touch HD Android Development] zebiddydoodaa:
oops

Discovered the poblem, the battery was dead :rolleyes:

Was using cheap usb lead which wasn't charging it.
[Touch HD Android Development] gerocha:
I made the fix1 and 2 to my sd 8g class6 and still not working.

Any ideas?
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
OK, let's be sensible...

'It won't turn on'. What does THAT mean? No power? if so, then you're never gonna see ANY screen.

If you mean it DOES turn on, but you can't get it to boot... read the opening post (I'm assuming you're on Blackstone?)... if so, turn OFF HTC Sense / Touchflo... reboot windows, THEN launch Android. After all the black and white text, the screen will go dark (no startup animation) for about 2 minutes... the Backlight will be on, but nothing on screen at all. After 2 minutes, you'll be in Android.

If you're using Rel 1.3 or Rel 1.4 and you're a novice, then use Rel 1.2 (ALSO in the opening post)... you will have a much smoother experience with this release (it's more stable than the brand new / buggy 3D releases)

When you say you can't hard reset.... I THINK you mean soft reset (press the reset button). You're simply wrong to say you can't reset... the reset button is hardware... no software can block it. Or, pull the battery. Again this is stated in the opening post...the only way to power down from Android right now is reset button or battery pull.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Sadly not... it's a pretty common problem (about 20% of users have this issue).

I'm using a class 6 and it's fine (as are many others), but it seems some class 6 cards just aren't working properly (or more likely, Android isn't handling them properly).

All I can recommend is waiting until there is a proven fix, or grab an older card from your wife / gf's phone ;-)
[Touch HD Android Development] gerocha:
Thanks for the reply.
[Touch HD Android Development] mcdull:
Since 3D is still broken in HD, does it means HD will freeze when ever 3D application launch? Or will it just refused to start at all?
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
It crashes for me..... if I try a 3D app. :-(

It's a total mess at the moment, unstable as heck....

I'm JUST releasing a new release in the next few minutes, but have to be honest.... the 1.2 release is the only stable release of late (4/feb ver)

HW3D will be great.... it's working wonderfully on my diamond, but Blackstone just doesn't like it (yet)
[Touch HD Android Development] gsmgsm:
thank you!
[Touch HD Android Development] xraytech8704:
anyone now a fix on the ring tones it is always on silent, cannot shoose ringtones diamond 500 vga sprint.
[Touch HD Android Development] dunebuggydude11:
for some reason i can't even install the cab. i keep getting a message that says "Installation of XDAndroid 2.0.1 (rel 1.5).cab was unsuccessful" I tried two different memory cards, both formatted and still it won't install. Ver 1.3 won't install either. (I have a Touch Pro 2 btw)
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
You are installing this to memory card right?

And you do have plenty of memory free on both the memory card AND the internal memory (because stupid WinMo needs space to 'decompress' the cab before installing it to memory card)

Do you get as far as the dialog that asks you your device type?
[Touch HD Android Development] kieboy:
Is there a good software than can extract the rootfs.img and repackage it? The reason is because I want to make the adhoc connection work, I have tried the Terminal emulator and busy box but having a problems in saving modified tiwlan.ini because I'm using a Touch HD, no trackball or multi touch to do alt+1. (to go out from edit mode)

So instead, I want to manually edit the file which is in the rootfs.img...the free software some can read the rootfs.img but could not extract properly. Just want to make the adhoc connection work. (Using a 3g usb modem + laptop..no router)

Thanks in advance.
[Touch HD Android Development] mickael91210:
Hello,

I have the same problem ... Is there somewhere a solution? (didn't find in FAQ).

Thanks.
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
Hi guys!

1.5 drain 50% battery during first boot process and dont start: after the kernel "blah blah" Ive a black screen and not boot also wayting for more than 5 minutes...
[Touch HD Android Development] sbarts:
Hi

Try as I might I still can't get Android to run with my current SD card. I've tried the formatting tool and the amended startup.txt file but my Transcend MicroSD card is having non of it. I just get the waiting for SD card message, Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Cheers
[Touch HD Android Development] simonkn:
I have the same problem..
[Touch HD Android Development] mickael91210:
With BlackStone and µSD Transcend Class2, 1.5 is working like a charm. With the original Transcend Class6, it doesn't work.

But I always have no sound for incoming calls...
[Touch HD Android Development] Thegn:
This pack contains support for hardware 3D, which don't work on every phone (Blackstone, for instance).

* If you're stuck with a black screen with backlight, make sure you have run a 3D program in WinMo before booting Haret.

* If that did not help, you're probably using one of the phones that does not have 3D support in Android yet.

Check the first post:

•Still VERY troublesome on Blackstone (great on Diamond). If you're a Blackstone user.... I'd not bother, stick with Rel 1.2 listed below.

************

Notice HW3D has some troubles... for some devices (esp Blackstone) if you have a black screen with the backlight on (freeze) do the following:

1) Turn off Sense/TouchFlo in WinMo.

2) Reboot

3) Launch Android again

4) At the black screen.... WAIT for 2 mins, it should boot :-)

Please remember this is cutting edge development and so not everything is perfect... PLEASE BE PATIENT...fixes will come eventually

************
[Touch HD Android Development] jjplayground:
Some problem here.
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
Ive done read the first post but its not working...the 1.3 version was working on my rhodium...:confused:
[Touch HD Android Development] cirion:
It's the opposite on Blackstone!

IF 3D was used, it will boot in a black screen...

Installed 1.5 and got stuck in black screen, then I red on glemson the above and flashed with the superlite Energy rom for Android and my Blackstone boots nicely :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=625330
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
tried with a similar nrg rom for rhodium but its always not working for me...:-(
[Touch HD Android Development] Thegn:
Hi,

Yes, as I wrote and as the first post says, Blackstone is Not supported yet. So if you boot for instance from WinMo and TF3D, it will lock on a black screen. However if you boot without TF3D or any other 3D program running when starting Haret, it will boot load Android normally. Of course without 3D support, but at least running.

I will try the Superlite Energy ROM probably someday when Android for Blackstone is more mature, and when GPS works! Progress is made everyday by the great developers :) We can't thank them enough!

Cheers,
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
This is ALL written in the opening thread. It should NOT be a surprise to anybody... (other than those who didn't bother to read)
[Touch HD Android Development] Insaneboy:
Wel phhusson is getting a rhodium soon, according to the raphael thread and seeing how it's more similar to the blackstone i think that we can hope to see hw3d on the blackstone :p
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
I've updated the Opening Post advising MOST users to avoid downloading - simply because the latest releases are just too unstable for 90% of users.

If you're a Diamond or Raphael user you should be OK. I've tested this on Diamond and the 3D is a massive improvement.

As for batter drain etc.... the opening post states CLEARLY.... do NOT trust any battery level told to you by Android. It's just garbage most of the time.

This is a known issue and has been around for a long time... until the devs work out the battery capacity algorithm, you just have to live with it. Of course Android DOES drain the battery quicker than WinMo at the moment, not least because the Power Management isn't 100% working correctly.... but hang on in there, it will improve!

There's only a limited number of developers and they don't necessarily have every handset type available to them, so some of the code is 'blind'... it might work great on Diamond, but have issues on Blackstone etc... Fortunate the general rule of thum seems to be:

2-3 good releases with huge improvements

2-3 bad releases with big bugs (as new work items are tested out)

2-3 stability fix releases

2-3 good releases with huge improvements

... and so forth

I cannot say this strongly enough.... Rel 1.2 is the most stable release to work with... 1.3 / 1.4 / 1.5 all have 3D / boot problems in some shape or form
[Touch HD Android Development] Zailynne:
I got it working. But it's so irritating with cab file, because, when I install a version of the Andriod. I can't uninstall it or install a new version... Does anyone have an idea what to do to make it work...? :P
[Touch HD Android Development] BladeStorm:
How long should the total boot process take until complete - I have tried with various versions and waited more than 20 minutes / version but the screen stays on the linux screen and every few (+-3) minutes scrolls and displays the same info. (Raphael) The keyboard is working - whatever I type on the keyboard appears on the screen.
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
when the process works fine no more than 5 minutes...
[Touch HD Android Development] BladeStorm:
Thank you - is there nothing else I am supposed to do ? - Install cab to storage card, disable Sense 2.1 in today, soft reset, start Android from programs - am I missing something ?
[Touch HD Android Development] davidebeatrice:
no, all you ave done its right...the new builds not working well. try the 1.2 on the first post.;)
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Of course you can...

You can either just run a later cab, or clear your SD and then apply a new cab.

How can the cab be any 'worse'? this is all stuff you'd have to do without the cab... the cab simply automates it. All the cab does is documented in the OP... it does nothing very clever or complicated... just decompresses a built to your SD Card

Can you explain what issue you 'believe' you have with the cab that you wouldn't have with a manual install?
[Touch HD Android Development] Zailynne:
It's wierd... I know the cab would be much much smoother, and installing it was. But now when I want to install a new version, it just says that the installation was unsuccessful... And when I installed the previous cab I installed didn't register so that I could uninstall it in anyway on the phone, except for deleting the files.
[Touch HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
I disabled the uninstall... that's because Android launches and creates a whole bunch of other additional files in the root.... files that are impossible to predict meaning I can't 'clean them up'.

I COULD completely erase the entire SD card... but then users would cry about that, since many have personal files on them... so there's nothing I can do but ask you to delete the stuff yourself (and keep what you need to keep).

Some users want to keep 'downloads' folder or the settings / content downloaded by some apps, and each app creates its own folder in the root.

That's basically why it's tricky for me to uninstall.

I might put the facility back, as long as folks know it's not going to complete 'clean up' your system (it will leave behind files created by Android and Android apps).

On top of all that, not many users bother to 'uninstall' via Windows Mobile.. they just download the latest cab and run that instead, without uninstalling the previous version.

I will look into this a little more... but for the moment, the best option is to just delete the stuff manually I'm afraid.