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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] molochmaster:
I only edited the build.prop and build.sapphire.prop files to make it look like I'm running their update on my Magic. I told them that I updated it, but till an hour ago, I still didn't have data (someone at R was looking into it, they call it escalating).

Then I discovered the online waiver. I just called Rogers because the online waiver doesn't work. I spoke with someone from technical support and he tried putting my info into the waiver again (he just tried it on the website, there is no 'internal' way to do it for the guys who are answering the phones. Higher up, Rogers people can do it for you). He confirmed that it was not working and escalated the issue. Someone is supposed to push that waiver through for me within the next 24 hours. I was just sick and tired of my data being up and down again, and I didn't want to do anything with my SPL or get the Rogers update. If the waiver goes through, my phone will be taken off the blacklist, and I should be fine. They should have done this from the start!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] midnightmach:
Yeah that damn waiver... can i just give them the build number they want to hear, and i will be taken off the blacklist???
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] 3rdcoast:
And when you happen to use a different phone you'll loose data again? I got tired of the nonsense and asked for a replacement phone already updated. My data was working at which time I SIM'd an unlocked Magic with cyan, week later I loose data again. So they are clearly checking. So this time I wiped clean and ran cursorsense with the matching radio. We'll see if my data lasts this time. They need to get off that scanning nonsense, they know I'm updated but cut me off when I run a different phone which isn't right.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] midnightmach:
Yeah thats how i lost data i used my Dream... I need data anyways so w/e ill try it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] 3rdcoast:
That's why the waiver is useless, it is against the IMEI. They just need to stop this, everyone knows about the update and the lawyers should be satisfied. Is there some rule against running your own phone? The next time I get service I will not tell them what kind of phone I'm using because I might change it whenever I please.

Our best bet right now is cursorsense. But I don't get any pleasure in this cat and mouse game. I'd prefer to run the 1.6 I had earlier but to stop this crap I downgraded to 1.5. I like cursorsense (better than Rogers version) but am missing the 1.6 goodies.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daeshawn:
At least there is some good news. HTC just tweeted I know that the situation on Rogers has been frustrating to a number of people. All I can say is that we are working to get Sense 2.1 ready" http://twitter.com/htc . If they're being serious then this makes Rogers look much, much worse.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] SilentTweak:
Wow, they know the ROM is fubared? They should've refused to make the 1.5 ROM for Rogers then. Rogers so dumb.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ajhuddy:
That seems like good news. I'm sick of this. I keep coming back to this thread every day to see if there is an update on rooting the P.O.S. that rogers forced upon us.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] smaskell:
I don't understand why there was ever a problem here. How the hell is this thread still going? I just talked to them on live support once and then never had a problem again..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hol17:
The thread is still going because people are still having problems with the update?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daeshawn:
There are a lot of people still having issues with the update as stated above. Some people like myself have talked to them 3 times just to get **** back in order (I did it since the beginning and have not lost data yet, but have received the annoying calls and txt messages to the point I had to use spc to block them).

Now alot of people are having trouble signing the waiver which in my opinion is strange as i to cannot sign it. Then there is confusion as to what rogers is really searching for and why are they still searching if you've already talked to them about the situation.

The fact that HTC has acknowledged the issue, shows that either they fully understand that they could possibly lose alot of customers as many may goto motorola's milestone on Telus, or they are trying to play the good guy.

If they actually are trying to get 2.1 out for us, the question still remains will Rogers actually give it to us? or will some be blacklisted due to signing the waiver? We all know how Rogers treats their customers, and I see that blacklisting wouldn't be further from the truth when dealing with rogers.

Now if HTC is thinking correctly then alot of us may leave Rogers for telus but grab the Hero which was our first plan for a new device in the first place (at least until the Nexus One came out). So HTC would no lose customers but gain sales.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] zortoflaven:
Rooted or not, I think think the 2.1 update will be availible for everyone. Even if Rogers somehow tries to limit it, it will be right here on XDA, hacked and rooted, within a couple hours. :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] SilentTweak:
In all honesty, Rogers should drop dealing with updates for us, and leave it to HTC. Like, HTC should be distributing the updates only and Rogers should keep their noses out of it. Anything that goes through Rogers ends up being fubar!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] pyee0124:
People with problems signing the waiver need to have that escalated so that their block can be added. Unfortunately for me, I'm actually with FIDO, and Rogers support cannot escalate FIDO accounts. Calling FIDO support is practically useless unless you get lucky with someone who actually takes the time to look this stuff up. In the end, they just send resets for me whenever I call(3 resets so far).. I can't escalate anymore to get that waiver signed because they don't "support" my damn phone (Rogers Magic 32A) :mad:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] frankinmerth:
I'm also on my third or fourth reset. The last two times the operator said there was no block on my phone, but sure enough data drops again eventually. I'm getting pretty sick of the crap.

Telus milestone?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] xzil3d:
I must have called them over 10 times in the last month regarding this issue. I'm with Fido. My data service has been interrupted so many times (despite their promises that "it's the last time," it's gotten ridiculous. They've also intercepted my phone calls and redirected them to HTC support in the past. Now they're trying to win me back with a laughable $30 (1 month of free data). I'm enrolled in a 3 year contract with them now for a service they can't provide.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] midnightmach:
FYI I tried submitting the HTC Waiver today on my friends macbook and it worked!!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] frankinmerth:
My waiver submission worked so I'll hope for the best, but I gave them enough of an earful that they did make some concessions on my account along the way. We'll see if the issue stays resolved but another 24 hours downtime is lame, they will NOT do resets any longer they told me so I couldn't get them to kick my phone and get me online today, I have to wait for the refresh.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daeshawn:
FYI i tried submitting the HTC Waiver on my sister's macbook as well as my next door neighbour's computer and it still didnt work
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] BRad Barnett:
I called up Bell last night -- I'm switching. My number is portable, the cost is actually $5 cheaper per month, too.

So, why not switch?

Their new network uses 850+1900, so it seems I'm good to go...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] rqqk:
Well Ive been watching this thread for a long time.. and i know how frustrated many rogers customers are.. but switching to telus or bell or anyone else isnt going to fix anything in the long run. Half of the people i work with are with telus. and they are all so peeved off that they are talking about switching to rogers... then there are the people like us who are still dealing with rogers and the stupid choices they make in dealing with updates and what not.. they all suck. Its life for us canadians. We are almost a third world country when it comes to cellphones.. things will get better eventually.. telus and bell are actually going to allow more variety for handset choices.. but it will take a while yet before rogers or anyof the other carriers realizes that they need to stop and look at the rest of the world.

I went over 3 weeks with no data. rogers wouldnt help me because i had a mt3g. they said do the update, even after i told them it would brick my phone. finally after close to 12 hours in total talking to i dont even know how many different teir 2 reps and what not i fanally got someone to solve the problem. they sent me a new lg eve lol.. now im back to the mt3g and my data is fine. no update.

i agree with so many of you that rogers is not doing things the right way. but none of the other carriers are much better..

Just wait out your contracts, buy an unlocked hero,nexus one, magic etc and just stick with month to month.

sorry for rambling on.

ive been holding alot of that in for a while :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] boostnek9:
uhh.. hypothetical situation...

You switch to Bell, two months down the road of your contract, they decide to do the same deal with updates (cause everyone knows they arent any better). You do the update, stuck with a locked down phone.

After a few days of cursing at it, you drop it out of your hands by accident and it breaks. You now have to get a new handset AND...wait for it ...wait for it...wait for it... NOT switch sim cards, but instead have to call up Bell, wait on hold for 332659658895 hours, pay 35$ for a "fee" to switch your IMEI over.. and now you cant get an unlocked handset because the IMEI is locked down to a CDMA provider....

that's why not...wait it out till another GSM provider comes to your rescue..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daeshawn:
Soooo. my data goes out again today (as i'm at the rogers plus store in yorkdale about to pay my bill with their machine). so i call up rogers who says there is no block on my account. He does the network refresh and voila i'm back..he called 5mins later just to make sure and also stated that he know we're all upset. I had to thank him for being so willing to assist. I talked to telus after in which the store rep was willing to set me up with the milestone at a real good deal (true i knew the guy since high school lol)..still deciding
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] alan090:
BRAVO good sir

you are correct

what seem of you dont understand is that customer service is there for them an rogers is the best of the three companies in that regard

and i know this for a fact - the people that hate rogers are the ones that call in screaming at a csr and wonder why no1 helps them

the milestone is MORE locked down than your dream and your not gonna get any help from motorola

you people think rogers made the perfect spl or the update at all?

they ordered it yes but HTC is the one that shipped it

motorola milestone will NEVER been unlocked ever

thanks to motorola as the DROID from verizon shipped with a flaw but the gsm droid doesnt have the same bootloader

milestone is old tech

snapdragon coming to rogers with xperia x10

my next phone which i will get as soon as it comes out
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] rqqk:
ya i don't really understand why anyone would want the milestone? there are alot of new android handsets coming and the milestone is just average in my opinion. As for boostnek9's comment, bell now offers gsm phones, as well as telus. At the end of 2009 they started releasing their new lineup of handsets that take sim cards. they still have cdma phones because its not like they can just switch over night, but eventually cdma will vanish and everyone will be using sim cards :)

I still don't think switching carriers is going to do anyone any good.. I know that this whole data blackout thing is leaving a bad taste in everyones mouth, mine included, but it's true that the same kind of thing will happen with any of the main 3.

By the way, if there is anyone still without data, or anyone still arguing with tech support for a reset, try instead to ask them to transfer you to customer care. NOT CUSTOMER SERVICE... there is a difference and you really have to be clear about that. once in customer care they WILL fix the problem. I spent ALOT of hours going threw every hoop they tossed my way and this was the approach i should've taken from the start. took me 5 minutes and they sent me a FREE lg eve, then turned my data right back on within minutes. the eve sucks compared to the magic but a free phone is a free phone lol.. ebay here i come!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daeshawn:
you do make sense there as Rogers has helped me alot in fact everytime i call so I'm not one of those who calls in yelling. I work customer service collections for Sprint so I know how to act. Right now for me it's more of a venting issue. In the end i may end up stayin with rogers as Telus have screwed me over in their beginning stages. What Rogers needs to understand is that the fix for their 911 issue was resolved months ago, and the way they are going about bullying their customer's is not right. Yes it's a safety issue , hence 911, but at the same time they need to understand that they do not provide proper support for their phone such as say T-mobile who from what i see on here is always keeping up to par. The sense update went to so many other countries yet Rogers refused to give it to us, 1.6 rolls out and they refuse to give it to us....2.1 is comig, and would we even care anymore since the xperia is coming?. Rogers is infamous for making you buy a phone then leaving you in the cold....The only solution? Buy their newer updated phone that usually has what you want. Now to see HTC issue a statement on twitter about the Rogers situation shows me that this is a bad move on rogers part that even their provider is acknowledging the feelings of their customers. Like I said most dont even care at this point, they just want out. (Sorry for the lack of paragraphs just rambling lol)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] BRad Barnett:
Uh, no.

First, Bell and Telus are no longer CDMA providers only. They launched, in the fall, a HSDPA network.. which they both share and built, but individually manage.

Even better, this network shares *all the same frequency ranges* as Fido and Rogers, 3G. They don't have a GSM network at all, btw -- it's all HSDPA.

http://www.comparecellular.com/bell-coverage-maps/region.asp?CoverageMapRegionID=61

See above for their old CDMA and new HSDPA network.

My Rogers G1 will work perfectly on their network. I'm always month-to-month, so I can switch at a moment's notice if someone is an ass. Since we now have THREE competing large HSDPA providers in Canada, with the same frequencies, I see this as good news. Since we have number portability (and my number is portable), I can move between Telus, Bell, and Rogers or Fido.

Three separate corporate choices.

With the addition of our two new buddies (Wind/ Egyptian dude) + those other new guys, we'll have some interesting competition soon.

It's too bad that Wind doesn't use the same frequencies for 3G though. That would have *really* opened up portability.

Regardless, when I do finish the switch (still waiting for my SIM card to arrive in the mail), I'll make sure to tell Fido precisely why I'm leaving -- when I speak to their pleading customer retention rep.

I'll also follow up with a letter to the office of the president.

Sure, Fido may not take note now -- but, my call and letter will be filed away, and now that we finally have compeition between three separate corporate HSDPA providers in Canada -- someone may take notice eventually.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] BRad Barnett:
Er, Droid is alreay rooted, as you said.... I'm sure the Milestone is not far behind. Please "never be rooted" .. come on! ;P

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/

I'm not sure why people wouldn't just use their G1 on Telus/Bell though? Why buy a new phone?

Strange people!

Even better, if you *do* want a Milestone, you can use it on Rogers/Fido, if you still like them.

Same frequencies after all. The Milestone is GSM + HSPDA.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] walie:
calling the milestone average is bone-headed as it's one of the two high-end android devices that is currently available. However Apparently the bootloader of the milestone unlike the droid is digitally signed by motorola, making it possible to flash modified Roms on the milestone, although the milestone has been rooted though. Motorola have even gone as far to state that it won't support unofficial Roms on the milestone. What's the main development forum of the milestone anyway?

As for the Sony experia, I'm highly skepital about it. Sony Ericson have been very sketchy with their high end phones lately in both build quality and firmware. Their high end symbian device had horrible shipping firmware and was even pulled from store shelves for a while. An extensive review by Mobile-review panned the experia x10 for it's cheap plastic outer casing and it's sluggish performance, when has been plagueing the device since early previews, even with snapdragon. Combining Sony ericsson history of taking huge amounts of time to update firmwares and Rogers fubaring any updates makes me very skeptical of a timely android 2.1 update for the x10
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] rqqk:
"calling the milestone average is bone-headed as it's one of the two high-end android devices that is currently available."

No offence to you or anyone else that thinks highly of the milestone, but in my eyes it just pales in comparison to alot of the new android devices that are just arriving now, or soon to be on the way out to the public. I'm not trying to say it sucks or anything... I mean I'd dragon punch my lg eve up my own ass for a free milestone... but i wouldn't toss my rooted magic aside for one.. I love cellphones. I mean REALLY love them. I spend WAY too much money and time with them. My gf dreams of a detox program for me. So i would have to say i've spent more time with more cells than the average person.. i'm sure there are alot of people just like me.. maybe worse lol.. And threw my experience, motorola as a whole has never built a phone that really just blew me away.. (the first razr was pretty sweet when it first showed up tho lol) The droid is a very nice phone.. the milestone is pretty cool as well.. but when you look at some of the htc android handsets coming (htc and google branded ones) or even some of the other companies jumping into the cell market because of android and the phones they're bringing, the milestone just doesn't seem as special.. tho some of motorolas android phones that are coming mid to late 2010 do look pretty sexy ;P

One more thing about SE, I've used about 20 different SE handsets in my life.. some awesome.. some really REALLY not awesome lol.. but the one thing they all had going for them was how incredibly easy they were to unlock and flash. Ive flashed different roms on almost half of the SE phones I had and never had a problem.. I never have used android on a SE tho so I'm not sure about that, but if it's gonna be anything like the other ones it should be pretty easy and we should see alot of really cool custom roms in the future.. also anyone who is gonna get the x10 when it comes out, what do you think of the x10 mini or the x10 mini pro? http://www.slashgear.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-mini-and-x10-mini-pro-shrink-android-1473884/

I think the mini could be pretty neat.. not as powerful as the normal x10 but still cool
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] BeerGood:
For those of you still looking for a root solution to the Rogers update... good news! The Tattoo has just been rooted and the exploit might work for the Magic. Actually, this exploit should work for many android phones until the kernel is patched.

I probably shouldn't get too excited until I actually try this on my Magic... The thread was just posted a few hours ago.

I would post the URL but I can't since I'm new to the forum (f$%ing spammers!). Look here:

xda-developers > HTC Tattoo: Click > Click Android Development

Thread:

Rooting the Tattoo(its done!) - what we have got so far
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] walie:
You can apply that statement to ANY technological device.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Theros:
If this works on the Magic/Dream, it should be possible to use it to get flashrec to work again. That'd be fantastic.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ajhuddy:
Woot woot woot! Say it's so! This makes my weekend!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] BeerGood:
I've been running this exploit on my Magic for the past 30min but so far no joy. Apparently it's hard to reproduce. The m6 executable really smokes the CPU but it does assert itself. I'm getting:

usage: reboot [-n] [-p] [rebootcommand]

usage: reboot [-n] [-p] [rebootcommand]

usage: reboot [-n] [-p] [rebootcommand]

usage: reboot [-n] [-p] [rebootcommand]

reroc/5353/cmdline[ WIN! 5353

Wrote shellcode 9ab8 line 0

Wrote shellcode 9abc line 4

Wrote shellcode 9ac0 line 8

...

Wrote shellcode 9bc4 line 268

Wrote shellcode 9bc8 line 272

Wrote shellcode 9bcc line 276

[ Overwritten 0xb0000100

It just hangs there... I hit ctrl-c and run the exploit again but I never get a shell. We might have to wait a few days for a more refined executable but this looks promising.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] slicktor:
I've tried running the m6 exploit, but adb chmod just gives me the command list. Then I get './m6: permission denied'.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] slicktor:
Scratch the last post. I get the exact same result as BeerGood.

At least we have a starting point.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] cybik:
<sorry. unuseful post.>
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] xaueious:
Someone needs to make a new thread for this kernel exploit

The thing is that it may not work right away. Opening and closing programs seems to help the script want to run. The instructions say to do this. Other people have reported that it takes a while to get it to work.