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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
If you can't get past the boot screen that means there is no ROM or no boot files at all. For me the procedure like

- task29

- radio ROM

- ROM

works everytime. On Jackos ROMs as well. And everytime the flash utility resets my device I hold the "Volume down" button to enter the Bootloader, then I flash next part.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kaaniz:
is flashing the radio necessary? it wouldnt work without it? i have done everything except update the radio rom.. i get error 209 on 100%.. invalid command..

the rest i do according to the procedure and still stuck on the bloody start up screen..

oh and i can flash absolutely every other rom.. :/ just not the one i want.. this one!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
After you wipe out whole storage area by making task29 unfortunately it is necessary to upload all the ROM components, also the radio.

Do you use Windows Vista or 7 on your PC? I think the error 209 is among "known issues" with flashing. But there is a patch somewhere. Do a search around this forum or google. I still use XP and never had such problem. So alternatively you can try to flash from a PC with XP (if you can access such somewhere).

EDIT: Oh, you actually CAN flash ANY other ROM? Also with radio? Even after task29? Then you can just flash another ROM (stock WM6.1 for instance) and reflash ONLY the Jackos ROM itself (without formatting the storage memory by task29, hence without the neccessity to flash radio)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kaaniz:
radio? no.. roms? yes.. all of them.. mostly i dont do the task 29 thingy.. but this time i was.. because i wanted it to work out.. let me try without the task 29 and with the stock rom flashed.. fingers crossed!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
It should work as stock ROMs usually have radio included in one nbh file. So once you flash stock, you will have whole set ROM + radio. Then you flash the nbh from Jackos ROM without task29 leaving "old" radio intact.

Should work ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kaaniz:
just finished doing EXACTLY that.. didnt work :(

*sighs*

still stuck on the damned "touchpro2" screen :/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
I give up... Also I am not a complete greenhorn, but this is something I don't understand... Why this 209 error comes up only when flashing radio?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kaaniz:
i think that error has got something to do with the lock/unlock of the radio.. right now i am trying another 6.1 windows.. lets see if that works ;p

hmm... that rom is working :/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] freaknormel:
I have upgraded too, i had 6,5 first ( Yes, i am calling this an UPGRADE, because its 100 times better '

Is it possible to get a dutch version of this ( maybe its not much work for ya ) but would be great for me..

Especcially because of the word suggestions are english , i want it to be Dutch..

PLease someobody
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gunstar_Hero:
Anyway to get kinetic scrolling?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ametshark:
Rhodium

I follow your Recommendations in installing your rom in my Rhodium

first i had EnergyROM GTX

I installed the task 29

and the phone boots in the start screen and hang up there and doesn't launch windows!!!

I can't fix it and i vant flash another rom because the computer doesn't see the phone!!

what I should do please help:mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kaaniz:
not to worry my friend.. just turn off the device.. by taking out the battery or by pressing the soft reset button.. but make sure.. when it is being turned on? you press the "volume down" key.. that will make your device go into boot loader and then you can connect to the computer and easily flash another rom..

hope that helps..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ametshark:
thanks

thanks kaaniz it did work !!!!!:D:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kaaniz:
glad it did :D

and now if only someone would help me out :/

oh and btw? after task 29? there IS NO WINDOWS to boot to ;p that is what that specific flash does.. wipes your windows.. then you have to enter bootloader and flash the JackOs.. Just so you know ametshark.. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
You really don't realize how useless all the new Sense features are until you go back to a ROM like this. I can still run all of my apps, faster, and with less battery drain. Really the only thing I miss about Energy ROMs right now is GTX UI. I know I could theme S2U2 with GTX styles and some other apps, but I'd really love to learn how to recreate GTX in TF3D. I know I'd have to do it myself since it's too outdated for anyone else to create a project based on it, lol. Ah well something to look into I guess.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
gtx for tf3d is a good idea.

hybrid v3 :

i am testing right now .

at first charge the battery is drainig fast.i will see how this is changing over the next charges.i am using radio *.77 for testing.

twitter tab:

shouldn't it be normal that when i press on a single twit(post) , that it links to the personal page?

ringtones seem to work great now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Twitter tab isn't working fine, that's why I hid it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Ach, I tested this weekend the 4.xx.xx.77 radio with Oldchool ROM.

Guys, don't use it... The signal coverage is really better, but the battery live is ****... The device goes hot for whatever reason and my battery didn't last 6h on 3G.... It was so urgent that I had to change my radio when I arrived at Warsaw.

Use the 3.xx.xx.30 radio. Much better, more reliable.

Keep in mind, that you need to do a hard reset after a radio change to make sure that everything works well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
i used the *.77 on the oldschoolrom and got a good batterylife- nearly 2 days.

before i used the 30.xxx.30 and got the best life of all roms : nearly 3 days.

now , my testings with your hybrid 3.0 and radio *.77 are bad: only one day.

i will try the 30.xxx.30 on that rom. perhaps its better?

not everything in the hybrid is flowing real smooth.

in adition with the short batterylife i will surly go back oldschool in some days.

perhaps we will find a way to adjust the hybrid to the longer lasting side.

thanks anyway
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I do NOT recommend using a 3.xx.xx.30 radio with the Hybrid. It doesn't match the rilphone, nor the localization functions will work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
For me the best battery life on Hybrid goes with the 4.49.25.91 radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
thanks for the info, i will try the 91.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
For my experience, the radio must first match the rilphone.dll, secondly the WM version. If you match both then you got the best possible battery life.

That's a pity that you can't do it on Hybrid.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kaaniz:
and no one has still answered me :/ why does the rom not boot?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
The Oldschool one? Works fine...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
@Jackos,

Please have a look back from this post on:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6424911#post6424911
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
No idea. Do you have a RHOD100 device?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Hey Jacko, is there any way to get the programs tab on 6.1 V1.0B to work properly? Once I enable the drop down start menu and change my Home hardware key button to point to my Today screen, I lose the start page and that is why I enabled the programs tab. Only thing is, it does not seem to work properly. Am I suppose to change a different registry entry other than the entry to enable the programs tab?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
It's bugged because the 4-row menu.

I'll explore this a bit later, currently I'm busy with some other stuff.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Really? Man, that's the only reason why I can't use the ROM. Thanks for your time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] maczaros:
To have normal Start menu and working programs tab in TF3D you need to change few registry keys:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]

"EnableStartMenu"=dword:00000000

"Manila://programs.page.hidden"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu]

"EnableManilaStartMenu"=dword:00000000

After that you *NEED* to soft reset.

It works on my device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] maczaros:
As I see you are still using this hybrid ?

How it works - still bug free ?

I'm asking because I'm thinking about to move on 6.1 + Manila 2.5.

How about energy consumption ? My current ROM (from this topic) work for about 3 days before low energy message appears...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
The only bug I got is the battery drain. Anything else is perfect.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] maczaros:
How often you need to recharge ?

And how about interface speed compared to TF3D ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
The battery should last for a one day (24h) with standard usage.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] maczaros:
It's really poor :(

And as you wrote It's because radio version (needed for localisation) ?

Using radio from Jackos 1.0b wouldn't help ?

As I think only disadvantage is loosing localisation mechanism ?

It's using only for weather, or for something else ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
If you want to use a 3.xx.xx.30 radio on a Hybrid rom, you need do copy rilphone.dll from that rom. To get the best possible experiance you need to use a radio that matches the rilphone and the WM version.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Thanks for the input! The programs tab is working perfectly now. Thanks again!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
So this fixes the programs tab even without uninstalling the 4row menu? That's great. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] maczaros:
Yes - after applying those changes you have 4row programs tab in TF3D :) - without uninstalling anything.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sirrah:
I use Hybrid ROM SE v3.0 with Sense 2.5 and I can't add a New Appointment on Calendar Tab :/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Such a bug was found in my Hybrid Sense 2.1 roms. Dunno if it's fixable.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zorroz:
what is an Hybrid Rom?

sorry for the dummy question, but: what is an Hybrid Rom?

I read some pages on this thead and i understood there are 2 kind of rom:

Oldschool wm6.1 + TF3D2.1

Hybrid wm6.1 + TF3D2.5 (v3.0?)

in some posts I even saw Jackos Hybrid ROM WM6.1 21048 + Sense 2.1 v6

mmm I'm loosing myself!

Is there someone who can explain the main differences?

THANKS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
who here is running the 3.46.25.30 radio on their Tilt 2? because im gonna flash this ROM and Jackos says the 4.XX.XX.XX radios are really bad with this build...is it true?

for now ill be on the safe side by downloading the recommended radio until someone from the US that has AT&T posts a quick review regarding the 4.XX radio

UPDATE: just flashed and im already running into multiple problems, when i go to the Messaging tab of Manila it crashes TF3D and restarts, i cant recieve or text anyone, for some reason :confused: can anyone help me out? thanks, running Jackos OldSchool ROM
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sichr:
I use the Oldschool ROM with 3.xxx.30 radio. Last time I charged was Friday night and the phone is still alive ;) I don't call too much. There are no serious issues with the ROM for me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
I ran that ROM with no real problems for a week with att in Florida, but the signal wasnt great with the .30 radio so I switched to the .77, which for me had the same if not better battery life and much better signal.

Currently I'm not using the rom because the battery life was poor, BUT it seems that the problem is my battery not the rom.

So use the Oldschool and love the ram its an awesome rom and for me everything works.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
v1.1 is up.

Even better speed and more free ram. A detailed changelog is in the second post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
I thought 1.0b was perfect. Guess I was wrong... thanks chef! Your ROM fell down from heaven and into my TP2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
can anyone lead me to the post that has Sense 2.5 for Hybrid? i cant find it for some reason :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HRQ.SLV:
Thank you!

Extraordinaire work as always!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Here it is:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6412913&postcount=668

It's not recommended. Consider this as a tech preview.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Guys, if you dislike the choppy scrolling in dialer, you may enable the gestures here:

HKCU\ControlPanel\Gestures\Touch

by setting Disabled=dword:0

Dunno if you knew that, most of roms have this enabled by default, mine doesn't and this causes some confusion.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] HRQ.SLV:
What's the advantage of it being disable by default?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
I have the same question I switched to another rom for a bit because of the lack of gestures for sms to email. Now that you've informed us on how to activate the feature Im stoked, but does having it enabled have a disadvantage?

AWESOME WORK!!! Jackos
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I disabled gestures, because when they are enabled I can't select more then one file in file explorer without using ctrl key. Old habit ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
Music with screen off

Hey Jackos off hand do you know how to enable music playback in manila after power button screen off. I'm searching and haven't found a fix yet. Just curious because some roms have it enabled by default others stop play back.

Thanks, oh and I'm liking having gestures back.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
If you have a bluetooth headset paired and on or a wired headset plugged into your Rhodium the music should keep playing when you suspend the device.

If you want to play music while suspended I'll search for you with driver you need to set to unattended mode (I guess wav1 but I'm not sure). Just keep in mind that this may cause the battery to drain faster.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
playing music with screen off:

install xdashutdown, map it to longpresspower and configure it to shut screen off on sleepbutton.

its not as comfortable because you have to press twice , but it works.

with headset you can ever turn off display with normal power press.

out of the box is only sense2.5 able to play through loudspeaker with screen of, if i am right.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
There are lots of roms that will allow music to play thru either bluetooth headset or speaker after power button suspend. Most recently when I have a headset connected and am playing music with screen off when I pull out the headset music will stop, which is perfect.

With all the battery and ram I find myself wanting to take advantage a lot more streaming listing stuff etc.. , and it eats the battery alive when the screen is on all the time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
Ok I found a cab I'm going to give it a shot it seems to only show up on the cdma sites but dont believe that will matter. Its called KeepMusicOnWhenIdle.cab. If it works I'll let you guys know and post it if you guys want.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Ach, this rom does it too, I mistyped in my message. The problem is that the speaker goes off when you don't have a headset plugged in because the driver is in attended state.

I guess that your cab just does change the speakers driver state.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
Not for me when I have my phone plugged into a headset and find a song that I like and hit the power button the music stops instantly...is that wrong?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Hmm... This is strange. What headset are you using?

I'm using HTC RC E100 and HTC BH M300. The music doesn't stop when I suspend my device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
I'm using a htc headset adapter that came with the phone and then plug it into the aux-in on my cars head unit.

Ok so installed the cab music works with the screen off. I then unistalled the cab and the music still works so I switch to the adapter from my car works then after a few moments 20sec maybe it stops I turn the screen on and manila player says no music found and requires a soft-reset to find the sd card again.:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Do a backup and try again after a hard reset. Maybe you installed something?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
Fair enough thanks Jackos
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dryice1049:
Ok so I hard-reset installed nothing and went to the manila tab clicked play with my headset plugged in hit play and power off the screen via power button and after maybe 20-30sec music stops and when I hit power button again manila says no music found aka wm unmounted my sd card.

So to me it seems wm is shuting down my sd card but I looking in advance config tool and its not set to power save...

Any further ideas Jackos?

Sorry for being a pain in the A$$
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Heh, crap. Dunno what's going on.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Running_Roti:
hey will this work with CDMA unlocked phones (tp2 originally from telus but now unlocked to a sim card SP - rogers)

let me know
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] XERO_Racer:
if its originally CDMA, you should strictly go to the CDMA just to be on the safe side, although you said its unlocked to a sim card which im not familiar seeing a lot of people having phones like that
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sichr:
I just flashed 1.1 and the LED keeps flashing green, any idea why? It starts to flash few seconds after power-up, just when the system starts to boot... :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sichr:
After reflash the LED sopped :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rossiniferrari:
Hey guys...

can I flash this rom on my Samsung Omnia2 ?????

That would brick it?!:eek: Or can I return to another O2 rom if that not work?:confused::confused:

Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sichr:
BUG (not too important)

In Rhodium app when I want to disable Push Internet engine the application crashes.

(Oldschool ROM v1.1, .30 Radio)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
The push internet engine is already disabled. It's needed for Opera 9.7, but is not functioning at all because it's not supported by TF3D.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
back again (after a short ride on the big SOD horse) :D

actually there is no chance to use the newer roms without many problems.

biggest problem is the sod thing, wich i never got on the old roms and exspecialy not on this great oldschool release!

one thing i got to know: what does the "beam" in communications do?

saving energy by disabling it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
To be honest, I'm not sure xD

I guess it's the OBEX service for receiving files thru bluetooth and IRDA (with we don't have on Rhodium). Or at last something related, so it might save battery.

It wasn't my idea to include the "hack" for Communication Manager, so ask the one who provided a cab to me somewhere in one of my two threads :)

About SOD, I guess it's something related to the XIP. HTC updated it and users aren't reporting any SOD's on WM6.1 roms... So that's my guess :) Can't figure it out because I didn't get my first sod yet 0.o lucky. It might be hardware related (someone at HTC answered so) and this is highly possible as I have a Rhodium from the new batch. Maybe they changed something in the mainboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
hahaha, great. ;)

i did a smal search for obex:

in our registry it is set to bth protocol, so no irda is needed.

the beam button is used to change the obexservicemask .

i now disabled the whole obex service in registry with :

1. comm manager Beam option En/Disable receiving of files over BlueTooth/IrDA according to following registry key:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Obex\IsEnabled, 0 for disabled, 1 for enabled.

i tryed to receive files over bluethoth from my netbook with obex disabled and it worked.

so i do not know what is beam doing exactly.

is it a pushservice that will activate bluetooth on demand? (and disable it after)

i don't know. i will let it disabled for now.

ot:

the sod thing started when the first oficcial sense2.5 roms from htc were launched.

perhaps its hardware related and only some devices got this problem.

but no problem for me :D i got your rom :D

have a nice weekend
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ztrike:
I cannot connect to the internet.

Hi, im from ecuador south america ( :D), i flashed this ROM into my tilt 2 from at&t, i thinks this is one of the best i have tried because is smooth and the battery life is great, so here is my question how can i edit the APN or VPN or Modem, because with the automatic setting for connection i can not connect to the internet, im using RADIO 4.48 original from AT&T, what could i do to fix this? If i solve this issue i will be a user to this ROM! i like pretty much your preference, Performing and Low usage of battery!! so this is the rom that could make me love WM! so thank for the rom and need your help because im Noob, :D

Thanks a lot. sorry for bad english :(

Oppss i do not know how but is working!! yeahh!! now i will have time to love your ROM :)

Excelent WORK!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
Good that you fixed your issue.

I would recommend that you install the 3.xx.xx.30 radio. The battery should improve a lot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ztrike:
Oki :D

I will do it for sure, i want to improve my battery! a lot! but til now All is ok with my current radio, i will swicht my radio, Thank a lot

Another question do you recommend to me your Jackos S2? what are the improvement, the advantages and disadvantages?

Thanks Again :D.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jackos:
I do not recommend my S2 ROM now. I'm hardly working on it now to release a v3.0 version, but it's nothing special to be honest.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aber82:
oldschool 1.1

some findings:

on internet tab the favorites are empty. how can i import some?

one time i got an infinitive vibration by getting a new mail. i had to change the mailsound to end the vibration.

one time the lcd backlight didn't turned off.

and then i saw the highest current i ever saw on the rhodium: 650mA for some seconds.

measured with powerguard 1.3

everything else is very beautifull.

here some pics of my pseudo gtx style: