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[Touch Pro2 CDMA] MadM3rlin:
How the **** did he do it?????????????????????????????????
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] ZUUL42:
Does Verizon have online chat that pops up on their site?

I've found that the chat people many times seem to know more about what they're doing than people on the phone. But that may just be my experience with Sprint.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] DKSE:
IT IS POSSIBLE. I own a Sprint Touch Pro I activated onto Verizon. Verizon employees will always tell you no. Verizon lies to you so you will only buy one of their phones. VERIZON WILL NOT ACTIVATE IT. YOU HAVE TO ACTIVATE IT YOURSELF by calling the phone number *228. When they automated call starts reading out your options press option 3. Then it will ask you for your 10 digit telephone number. Then it will ask you for your billing account password (usually 4 digits). Then the music should play for a couple minutes while your phone is being programmed. Then your phone will reboot and walah complete :).
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] MadM3rlin:
"unfortunatly we are unable to complete your request"

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[Touch Pro2 CDMA] ace2tre:
Just to save you some time and grief “it will not work”. If the ESN/MEID is not in Verizon's Data base it cannot be activates. Take this case and point about the open network (Which by the way was ever really stated by the company as being in effect.) If you have and Alltel device it cannot be activated on a Verizon plan.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] MadM3rlin:
I understand.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] azyouthinkeyeiz:
Um... I personally know to be a fact, being as I am a Sprint Repair Tech. There is no way to activate a phone onto the Sprint Network that is not on our list...

Nothing you say will make that any different.. Have a picture of this Verizon phone on Sprint??? Because I know its a load...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] daganb:
I have activated a Verizon Touch Pro on pageplus wireless, they use the nationwide verizon towers and data settings. Page Plus wireless does allow any ESN's to be inputted into their system. Google for more info.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] lehaitien:
wow. wow. wow. I feel your pain on this issue. all you need s to have the device loaded into VZW dmd(device management database). To do that you have two options: first. you can contact the open device ppl but doing that you'll have to send the phone out for 4-6 weeks. or two you can pray you find a way to contact the marketing team where they can load your meid into the database. after that you're set.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mxxcon:
you should take some memory pills because what you remember is very wrong.

read http://mobile.engadget.com/2009/01/06/verizons-open-hardware-compatibility-list-is-insanely-boring/ and http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizons-Open-Development-Initiative-So-Far-Its-A-Joke-100102
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] dzuchowski:
For those of you out there that are planning on buying a Sprint Touch Pro to use on Verizon's network, the switch over instructions on this site are no longer valid. Go to the last few pages and you'll see why. The phone can NOT be activated on Verizons network any longer. The *228 option 3 hole has been plugged up. Apparently they figured out how to piss us off again earlier this week.

If you have a Sprint Touch Pro that's already on the VZW network, you're safe for the moment. Just don't attempt to switch phones and then try and go back to using your Sprint branded Touch Pro. It just flat out won't activate.

Some have rumored that they have been able to convince Verizon to add the ESN from their phone to the VZW database, but it doesn't sound like many have much success with it.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] rrife:
It can be done, I do it all the time via *228. You need to reprogram the phone with the correct EPST & MSL codes. A few times I've gotten a message saying the automated system cannot activate my phone and I was forced to talk to a rep to get them to activate it, but they usually don't give too much hassle.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Quake1983:
I work for the big red (actually indirect agent) and anything not in the vzw database cannot be activated through normal channels. Your only hope is to get it added to the database and go through the legwork to make that happen. the *228 option 3 loophole has been indeed closed except for devices dun dun dun... in the vzw database.

good luck!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] bomix:
Doesn't Work

I have two Sprint TP2's that I use at my work, I have VERIZON for my personal use to call family. I've wanted to get these sprint ones to work on verizon ever since it came out.

What I've done today, Loaded the Verizon rom, did the *228, Nothing,

Changed the MSID to 00000000 load Verizon rom again,

*228 Nothing.

This doesn't work, I agree with the guy above, only way is to call and get it on their database.
[HD2 General] tdx:
Hi guys,

I searched the forum for this and didn't find any threads that had an answer so i thought I'd ask for your help. This morning for no apparent reason the touchscreen on my HD2 (stock ROM) stopped responding, everything else is working fine but the screen is just not registering anything.

I tried flashing a couple of custom ROMs but that didn't do the trick, it's now been a whole day where I can't use my phone. I've had this happen to me once before but after a few hours it started working again (also for no reason). This time though it doesn't seem to be fixing itself.

Anyone has any suggestions, hints or tips before I send it back for repair?
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
all i can say is to make sure it is flashed with stock rom and no custom spl is present when you send it back!
[HD2 General] tdx:
Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely do so. To be honest I was hoping there is a fix that doesn't involve a repair since i bought the phone on craigslist (yeah I know silly me) and there is no warranty. So I'm guessing HTC will hammer me on the price.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
you may be able to find a replacement digitiser as it sounds as if that is what is faulty on your device.

Im not sure if anyone has succesfully replaced a digitiser on an hd2 just yet though.

there are a few posts around where people have tried to do the entire screen array, lcd included but i dont know if they were succesful.

would be great to find a service manual for the leo
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
i just had a thought aswell... if you have no warranty then you may aswell save flashing the device back to stock... you will be charged for repair anyway!
[HD2 General] le_paulo:
This problem has been discussed several times on XDA. You should search for "touchscreen" or "touch screen" to see the various problems people have had. There doesn't appear to be much you can do about your particular problem.

My HD2 had the same problem when it got hot for any reason (while charging or if it was a hot day). Putting it in the fridge to cool it down helped. You can try that if you like... ;)

Seriously - if you can repeat the problem on the phone, send it back for replacement. The phone is no good to you like that.
[HD2 General] tdx:
Thanks for all the replies, it looks like I will have to send it in... sigh... Let's see how much HTC will charge me.

By the way I tried the fridge thing after reading about it on this forum. Didn't work.
[HD2 General] mallman:
anyone seen this? I highlighted the differences :) I am very excited about this.

http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-hd2#tech-specs

Operating System	Windows Mobile 6.5

Processor	Qualcomm 1GHz Snapdragon

Internal Memory	ROM 1GB;

RAM 576MB

Compatibility	* WiFi: 802.11 b/g

* GPS/AGPS

Email	One Exchange, up to 6 POP/IMAP

Dimensions	122x67x11mm

Weight	157g (with battery)

Display	4.3-inch HD touch-sensitive screen with 480 x 800 WVGA resolution

Technology	GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz

Battery	1230 mAh

alk Time: 380 min (GSM)

Standby Time: 490 hours (GSM) (The above are subject to network and phone usage)

Speakerphone	Built-in microphone, speaker

Built in Camera	5MP, including widescreen capture, digital zoom and 2x LED Flash

Audio/Video	* Windows Media® Player

* Albums

* Pictures & Videos

* FM Radio

* Audio supported formats:

.aac, .amr, .m4a, .mid, .mp3, .mp4, .qcp, .wav, .wma

* Video supported formats:

.wmv, .asf, .mp4, .3gp, .3g2, .m4v, .avi

I/O Interface	Bluetooth® 2.1 with Enhanced Data Rate, WiFi: 802.11 b/g

Expansion	microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible) (up to 32GB)

Antenna	Internal Antenna

In Box Content	16GB MicroSD Card

MicroUSB Cable

Travel Charger

User Interface	* HTC Sense user experience

* Capacitive touchscreen with pinch-to-zoom and haptic capability

* G-Sensor

* Proximity sensor

* 3.5 mm headset jack
[HD2 General] pspbirte:
Also look at the hardware buttons... The call/end buttons now have colors! (Green and red) .... :D
[HD2 General] pspbirte:
AND you get 16GB of SD storage in the box....
[HD2 General] mallman:
lol yup sure do. Since when to us Americans get the better device??? This is a first? I am totally going t-mobile
[HD2 General] Spike15:
You get that with the Telstra version also...
[HD2 General] mallman:
32 should be out pretty soon so as great as that is (and im not downplaying it, it really is great compared to what i got in my EU version lol), 32 will put this baby off the charts
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
thats a touch for you yanks!
[HD2 General] Spike15:
So just to get this straight, you're trading GOOD UMTS bands (the 850/2100 on the Telstra one (T9193) is brilliant...excellent worldwide compatibility) for neutered UMTS bands and ~100 megs of RAM?

The ROM difference doesn't really seem significant.
[HD2 General] Raspster:
WOW, that is pretty impressive. The 1gb will help CAB whores alot! As for the added RAM. Really, it's not nessasary unless you plan on flooding the hell out of your device and everyone and anyone knows that WM starts acting up with alot installed. With the current model's RAM, it's plenty. I have never seen mine drop lower than 150mb which is amazing! I would consider it if t-mobile was not so inferrior compared to at&t. Atleast in the north east that is. Whats even more impressive is how HTCa has it on their site already. Usually they don't ad a device with FULL specs unil its released or real close to release. Like a week or so away. Hmmm, Can we be seeing this bad boy earlier than we think? HTC sneak attack..? LOL
[HD2 General] freyberry:
The most important thing is the internal 1GB ROM memory.

Seems that HTC finally understood that 160MB of free memory out of the box make absolutely no sense when applications downloaded from the Marketplace (which is where most consumers - not us powerusers - get their stuff from) can only be installed to the internal storage.

That's very very good. Just look at all the questions on this forum about the internal storage filling up - good that HTC has resolved that problem, at least for the users in the US.

Unfortunately still no sign of WM6.5.X on the US HD2.
[HD2 General] mallman:
up absolutely since att absolutely stinks everywhere i use it. And Ive had it for 10 years lol. Good thing it was through my work so i didn't pay for it because i would not choose them otherwise. T-mobile has recently upgraded everything and is headed to bigger and better things. i cant really go wrong coming from no signal no can i ;) Not to mention, my company will take over my contract so i will sell my EU version and get one on contract from tmobile, that makes me money

bigger rom makes tons of difference if you are downloading a lot from marketplace
[HD2 General] Spike15:
But that doesn't help you for roaming.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
I didnt think that either difference was significant but thought it was nice for our U.S. cousins to have ...

however... now that the windows marketplace has been mentioned, along with its inability to install apps to anything other then internal device memory (at present i hope), i think the change is actuallly quite big news.

Knowing that the market place is region specific... are we going to see an aggressive tactic from Microsoft, HTC and T-Mobile in the U.S.?
[HD2 General] mallman:
i dont roam, i dont travel, i live in a tmobile area as proven by my friends full service with tmobile and my 1 bar of att. Im not saying att is bad, just bad for me. It was free forever so i didnt bother changing.
[HD2 General] lude219:
I think the +100mb in the RAM is more important than the 1Gb of ROM, seeing how programs will run smoother and faster, not to mention MORE multitasking with the added RAM. The 1Gb of ROM is good to those who wish not to tinker their phone and just use it out of the box. Though for those who are aware of XDA-developers, we can easily save programs and run it from the microSD card.
[HD2 General] mallman:
i have already run out of space on my EU version when i run things like WAD2 with all my themes.
[HD2 General] mallman:
well the way i see it, programs, no matter where they are installed are getting bigger, more colorful, more animated and use more RAM do to those facts. The word "important" may be strong to use for added RAM right now but hey, who wouldn't want more RAM??? and ROM for that matter. I agree it isnt earth shattering, but its nice to see :)
[HD2 General] lude219:
Indeed. Usually the US would get hand-me-downs or even crippled version of the EU/Asia ones, but not in this case. I'm glad that T-mobile is picking up the pace.
[HD2 General] MrMagicMushroom:
Aw man, I frown at my HD2 in comparison. :p Maybe the differences won't be so vast. What I have now works and I'm very happy with, just give me WM7!

16GB micro SD out of the box is just spoiling though, I'm spending up to £50 for one off Amazon as the 2gb out of the box just won't cut it!
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
no need.. if you know what you are doing then the extra device storage space isnt an issue.

the RAM increase is nice with an additional 128MB but what apps currently on winmo will need the extra oomph?

still... a good move by the companies involved... its probably going to help sales for those US customers who would have say, got an iPhone instead?
[HD2 General] lude219:
It helps in the fluidity of how the program(s) is running. Less lag, less jitter, and just an overall smooth ride with more RAM. If you ever run, for instance, TMCP, coreplayer, GPS programs, those are very RAM-intensive programs and with the added 128MB, you can expect to multitask between them with much ease than before.
[HD2 General] Spartoi:
I guess I have more of a reason to buy the T-Mobile version over the Telstra version now. (Coverage is fine in my area btw.)
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
yeah i suppose there would be an increase in ability to multitask more efficiently... dont see it being all that much smoother though. Doubling the ram would obviously be much more significant... but 128MB more? will the difference even be noticable?
[HD2 General] lude219:
Well, unless you're one of those power users who max out their RAM, you wouldn't be seeing much of a difference then, correct?:p
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Exactly.

But HTC is trying to market this as a consumer device and sadly, most consumers have absolutely no clue what they're doing.

They don't know that they can buy stuff from outside the Marketplace. Along with the Marketplace's inability to install programs to the storage card, the greater internal storage is indeed a huge deal.

Of course, for us who know how to keep the storage clean, it's not that important. The RAM is not a big deal in my opinion, I have dozens of programs running all the time and never managed to fill up those 448MB.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
correctamundo:thumbup:

its good to see they are addressing the issue with the windows marketplace though... IF that is what is intended with the huge device storage.

Just wish they would simply make it possible to install apps to any storage volume. That surely cant be that hard?
[HD2 General] freyberry:
I'd think so, but Microsoft doesn't seem to put much effort into WM6.5 and its services (Marketplace, Windows Live etc.). Probably because they have everyone working on WM7.
[HD2 General] Raspster:
It really is all about where you live. I wish tmobile was good in my area because to be honest with you, I like tmobile service better. Customer service that is. Also, they don't have an iphone that they cater to like att. As far as hardware, att SUCKS because the iphone is their bread and butter but that will change in 2010. If it were tmobile that got the iphone, you all would be changing your tune as tmobile would probably NOT have an HD2 coming. As for the network upgrades. ATT just 1-up'd tmobile and did the full HSDPA also. My buddy that has a nexus 1 and me with my unlocked hero from telus with att 3g bands (alternate phone) was smokin my buddies nexus 1 in almost every northeast US area and we travel together every week thru-out the northeast. We were using the same speed test off the android market.
[HD2 General] valkster:
Arent these new phone specs in line with what they say WM7 is requiring, thats odd I wonder why they changed these specs???? ;)
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
Nah... original spec is good enough for WM7:

WM7 Chassis 1 Specification

Core requirements:

Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)

Memory: 256MB+ DRAM, 1G+ Flash (at least 512MB fast flash – 5MB/s unbuffered read @4K block size)

Display: WVGA (800×480) or FWVGA (854×480) 3.5” or greater diagonal

Touch: Multi-touch required

Battery: Sufficient to meet Days of Use LTK requirements.

Controls: Start, Back, Send and End are required (soft controls allowed as long as they are always present).

Peripherals:

Camera: 3MP+, flash optional, 2nd camera optional (VGA resolution sufficient)

GPS: aGPS required

Sensors required: Light Sensor, Compass (3 axis, 5 degrees, 100 Hz sample rate), Accelerometer (3 axis, 2mg resolution, 100 Hz sample rate)

USB: High speed required, 20 MB/s transfer rate.

BlueTooth: BT2.1 required, must run MSFT BT stack, CSR BlueCore6 or later recommended.

Wi-Fi: 802.11B/G required, must run MSFT Native Wi-Fi stack, Atheros 6002 or Broadcomm 4325 recommended.

Connectors: Micro USB and 3.5mm Audio required.

Options:

FM tuner: If tuner HW is present it will be detected and supported by the Media application.

Haptics

SD Card (Micro SD recommended)

DPAD, qwerty or 12/20 key keyboards all optional

The only thing that makes sense with the specification change in the US is they did it because they could lol. (or marketplace:))
[HD2 General] aceo07:
Now I just need to know release date and price.
[HD2 General] MonnieRock:
Anyone know the exact model number Txxxx?

Thank you,

Monnie
[HD2 General] rahulelectra:
i was thinking same whether they figured out wm7 willneed more ram or its nexus effect.

May be 1G+ was missing ?
[HD2 General] 10332007:
I have been happy overall with my ATT service, decent signal most places I go. I dont travel much outside of major cites so I should be fine on that front. However some of ATT's charges are retarded (most places are like that) and I cannot justify the near 1k price tag of an unlocked version for ATT 3G which I use.

T-Mobile has done a good job recently with acquiring decent phones and a competitive pricing strategy. Sorry AT&T, but unless you release the phone yourselves I'm switching until you get the next good version.

The RAM is not a big boost, but it is very nice to seem them upgrading the device instead of just porting the same old model (not old but you know what I mean.)
[HD2 General] rahulelectra:
One the overview page i found one more thing

This means Google talk has finally relaesed for Windows mobile or just a patched version for t mobile..

seems softwares are getting bumped as well as Hardware.
[HD2 General] Shawn_230:
Extra RAM is nice... but the T-Mo logo and the coloured send/end keys make it look quite a bit worse IMO.
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
iam veryyyy sad our eurobe hd2 is old now does this tmobile version work in world wide 3g or just us
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
will they upgrade all hd2 versions that will be released after that or it is exclusive for the t mobile hd2
[HD2 General] jrrigney:
It wont help at all, ROM = Read Only Memery, basic computing terminology :)

It will only be helpfull when larger "ROM's" (in terms of the basic OS) are released
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
rom is important to carry larger softwares when wm7 is released the difference in rom will make a big difference as wm7 may be greater than the 512 rom that exists now so t mobile version may support it but other doesnot
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
ram is not responsible for smoother performance it is the processor rams only help in multitasking when allot of applications are opened and 576 does seems to be faster than 448 if there is avaliable space in ram they will be the same it will only differ in the ability to run more than program in one time example (576 10 programmes at same time) (448 may 9 or 8 programmes at same time ) it is just illustration examples not the true but rams does not affect the speed at all it is the processing speed which affect the speed
[HD2 General] firaX:
Picture still shows old WM6.5. I had really hoped they'd release the US version with 6.5.3...

Anyhow, no use being upset about the upgraded specs, we cannot make use of the US ver in Europe anyways, and we have at least had it months before. Ram is a non issue, the "makes it run smoother" theory only applies if you actually max out your ram. I have not managed to do that. In fact i mostly close all my apps after using them!
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
you are absolutly right but what iam afraid of is to release similar version in eu with similar properties like what nokia does by adding i to their existing model
[HD2 General] mooooooa:
the t-mobile hd2 is even taller?

122 vssss 120,5mm ...
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
may be they didnot measured it accuratly
[HD2 General] mooooooa:
no, cause when you look at the picture off the tmob hd2, you can see the t-mobile logo under the speaker at the front page. u can actually the that the device is taller.. this is the extra rom and ram which makes it taller.. :P
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
may be but it seems like it hasenot the glass face of our hd2 it seems that only the screen is glass
[HD2 General] gabbs:
I shouldn't have clicked this thread :(:(
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
iam depressed to
[HD2 General] 10332007:
I wouldnt be, I've had to be jealous of the rest of the world having this phone for months now :( And I have to change carriers so it evens out between us...
[HD2 General] Spike15:
You're depressed that you don't have a phone with slightly more RAM and neutered UMTS bands?

[sarcasm]I'm real depressed too.[/sarcasm]
[HD2 General] rahulelectra:
I think theres a special ROM 2.01 for T Mobile too being tested. have a look.

source :http://mobile.engadget.com/2009/12/...es-youtube-debut-t-mobile-usa-branding-along/

I think I have to wait till feb. before getting HD2
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
yes and it has the document tab which is in the coocked roms now
[HD2 General] Beefheart:
I just use Pocket Mechanic to transfer anything stored internally to the external card. Works absolutely seamlessly.
[HD2 General] rahulelectra:
Thanks for info.

Have you noticed Google talk is also included in the tested 2.01 ROM and also listed on HTC USA website.

Is it also available on cooked rom.

I guess there are more difference in the T mobile HD2 US version ...let us have confirmation from until someone who owns one.
[HD2 General] enyaj:
wth???!!! I hope the geniuses will make this work in asia. hahahaha!!!
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
and i hope there is no other hardware differences so that to be easily to port some of its properties
[HD2 General] mallman:
"currently" isnt the point :) think of the future
[HD2 General] Archer:
Let's just be blunt here.

That is a better spec phone and I would rather have one of them than the one I've got.

There - I've said it :mad:

Still love what I've got, but now there's better!
[HD2 General] mallman:
neutered??? try my hd2 here in the US :) That comment is 100% relative. Bring your HD2 here once i get my new on and we can compare ;)