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[HD2 General] samsamuel:
We used to see something that looks just like that on Garmin and TomTom in-car sat navs, and was usually associated with a sudden temperature/humidity change causing moisture to condense between the different layers of screen.

They generally went after a day or two, and the manufacturers advice was always to leave in a slightly warm area for several hours. Didn't always fix it, though, and they would generally swap out for a new one if pressed.
[HD2 General] Benz-Driver:
This could happen when a cold finger is pressed on a warm screen (e.g. when getting a phone call in winter and you don't wear gloves and you take the (warm) phone out of your pocket and slide over the screen).
[HD2 General] apoc286:
Right well that explains that! I've had the same issue with mine and all i could think was pressure but couldn't fathom how, especially not without cracking the screen.

As mentionned before, a suction cup DOES WORK! Yes i know it's glass I know it shouldn't but it does! Mine was pretty minor to start with and was gradually getting bigger, used a suction cup and the black patch is gone, just a rainbow like patch remains. It's pretty minor now.

I'll be watching this with baited breath now because I know trying to get a warrenty fix will be like an uphill battle, so I wasn't going to bother but if people get a lot of sucess I might give it a try.
[HD2 General] Corwin_B:
The same problem appeared on my HD2 as well. I'll try to get an exchange from my dealer.
[HD2 General] joker.mn:
happened to me, too

i got an exchange from my store within one week. now everything is fine.

these cases are covered by warranty.

i heard that it may be caused by applying high pressure on the screen or by travelling by airplane. sometimes this happens after you were on a flight.
[HD2 General] tdmsdeano:
mine was due to excessive pressure as I'd sat on mine on Xmas day and I ended up with a patch in the middle just like the photos posted here. After the initial shock thinking I'd broke it, on closer inspection it looked as if I'd squeezed the liquid out of it so I thought why not squeeze it back?

all I did was press from the outside of the screen using 2 fingers either side of the spot and then quite firmly squeeze towards the spot. I did this in a circular motion around the spot thus forcing the liquid back into the centre. Eventually it was OK after a few directed squeezes and it had completely vanished and has never come back so imagine my relief :cool:
[HD2 General] apoc286:
Suction cup works better ;)
[HD2 General] chronicle:
This happened to mine after I sat on it in my back pocket. It's excessive pressure that causes it so it's hardly HTC's problem.

As people have explained it can be restored with a bit of work. I rubbed mine with a finger for a while and as it warmed up it came unstuck and all was good again. It has happened a few times since, each time as a result of putting a lot of pressure on the middle of the screen, each time it's fixed easily.
[HD2 General] Paul Boy:
i had the same problem (3 times) after taking it out of my pocket.....................:eek:

The 'splodge' went away on its own, after about 10 mins :D

i now have the HTC flip case, not happened since..
[HD2 General] Lukasss:
Short update

Get this:

Today I got an e-mail from my dealer demending the return of the HTC hero replacement device. Because it seems I do not appreciate the service level and because I posted this on xda. Hahahaha... I'ml not planning on returning this device anytime soon, not before I get my HD2 back.

Grtz

Lukas
[HD2 General] Lukasss:
ANother update

My retailer is telling me to post the following, because leaving out the following details is giving the readers a wrong impression:

Netintro did call Eurotwice quite a few times to speed up the repair process.

Netintro did provide me with a replacement device.

Netintro provided apologies for the fact that the replacement device was delivered with an empty battery.

There you go.
[HD2 General] kruithofm:
Hey,

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[HD2 General] apoc286:
Hmm ok this time I KNOW no pressure on the screen and yet the spot came back! I managed to 'massage' it out this time as I don't a convenient suction cup in work, but the rainbow spot is bigger now. I'll try the suction cup when I get home and see if that improves it.
[HD2 General] uberhaqer:
This exact thing happen to my HD2 but I did sit on it, it still worked but got very annoying. I got a new one yesterday from Vodafone using my insurance. :)
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
Another HD2 screen fault...

Dammit!! My screen has done this too!

Here's my email to phone dealer:

My HTC HD2 purchased from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk last December has developed a screen fault.

About a week ago I noticed a refraction pattern on the screen when it was off, running down the centre of the screen. This is not visible when the screen is on.

In the past couple of days I noticed that close to the centre of the screen is a darker patch revealing normal screen coloured dots in a grid pattern. This is very clearly visible when the screen is off but also can be seen with the screen on. The dot-grid is clearly something to do with the sub-structure of the capacitive screen.

Attached is a picture of the fault.

I have investigated this fault & other HD2 users have experienced the same problem, & suggest the cause is either humidity & cold weather, or Newtons Rings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_rings).

At no time has the phone come into contact with water.

I would appreciate a warranty replacement at the earliest opportunity. I need my phone for work purposes so I am unable to be without it.

I look forward to your reply as soon as possible.

Many thanks

Fingers crossed!! :eek:
[HD2 General] ero69:
I purchased my HD2 last Monday evening. I had the same spot as people mention here in the middle of my screen. I did not apply any large pressure and about the worst I did is put it into my front pants pocket whilst in a meeting. At first thought it was a bubble under the screen protector I put on the phone the day earlier.

The spot turned into a colorful very thin oval running down the middle of the screen about 2 or so centimeters long. Hard to be seen when the screen is on but noticeable and annoying when screen is off.

I've been advised it's classed as a Newton's Ring and HTC is now covering this under warranty. The store I purchased from said they have not yet received HD2's for warranty replacement so I could send my device to HTC for warranty repair/replacement.

I did not want to be without my device so I said I'd wait until my supplier received their warranty replacement HD2's.

Do people know if replacements under warranty are from stock different to new stock? Are they refurbished units?
[HD2 General] kweiss10:
its been sometime now since we've heard from you. what happened, any luck?
[HD2 General] colinou:
Hi,

I've experienced exactely the same issue !

There was maybe a little pressure on it (I sat with HD2 in my pocket...). And when I took it out of my pocket, it was a black spot (exactely like the picture in first post) in the center of the device.

I tested it, no sensitive problem on the spot, nothing changed, just an awful black spot was appeared.

But, taking my phone every 5 minutes to check it anxiously, I noticed that the spot was being smaller and smaller, without doing anything (no "massage", no suction cup trick).

And after approx. 20 minutes, it disappeared completely. My lovely HD2 was once again brand new !

So hope it'll not happen again !

Good luck to you guys.
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
Off to HTC...

My retailer offered me either their own outsourced repair shop or to go directly to HTC... since the repair shop will surely have to order parts & not be as experienced as HTC, I have opted to deal with HTC.

Very good on the phone & I opted to send them the phone rather than have pick-up so I don't have to sit in all day waiting...

They reckon it should only be away for a week so good job I still have my Orbit2 but it's a better "quote" than others have experienced. I wonder how long it will take in the real world! :confused:

BTW, I tried "massaging" the screen inwards towards the patch but no change there.

I have also reported to them that the power/call-end key has lost some of its tactile feel & thus doesn't work consistently so would appreciate them getting that back to standard too.
[HD2 General] kweiss10:
i wonder what happened to the creator of the thread.

did he get a new HD2?
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
His last post was this one: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5417545&postcount=63

I think his retailer may have kidnapped him. :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] kweiss10:
i thought maybe he is banned from writing anything.

seems wierd though
[HD2 General] Lukasss:
HI guys.

I'm sorry about the lack of any updates on this issue. After about 50 e-mails exchanged between me and my retailer about the given service level I just got fed up. I even didn't visit the forum anymore. Apologies.

I did not get a new HD2, however, today my old HD2 arrived with a new screen. I reported the issue to my dealer the 7th of january... So it took them more than a month to replace a screen.

I'm still not satisfied with the service, but at least I have my phone back. I hope the issue doesn't return. HTC have been generally very helpful on this, it's the only party that provided pro-active feedback, and after a while they took over thye communication between myself and the repair center EuroTwice. So no complaints there. As I said above, after a while I ceased all direct communication with my dealer and the repair center, because I was getting nowhere. I acknowledge the fact that I can be a very difficult person, but almost 5 weeks for a screen swap is overkill. Consider I only had the phone for 4 weeks, so EuroTwice was in posession of my phone longer than I did get to enjoy it.

Everything went wrong; transport to and from the repair center, communication, even my address got screwed up in the process, so the phone was sent to a wrong address, had to return to Eurotwice just to be sent again. No proactive feedback was received from Eurotwice (except 1 email message after I had a discussion with my delaer - one of many discussions), and my dealer sticks to the fact that the service level offered was on-par, nothing had to be done differently.

So there you go, I got mine back, it's fixed. I'm in the process of reinstalling everything right now. I'm considering a lawyer, because judging by the belgian civilian law it's the customer who has the right to choose between swap or repair, and that choice was denied to me on numerous occasions. I don't know if I will go through with legal steps - it takes a lot of time and money, so as I said; I'm just considering it.

Thnx for support all, and I hope fellow xda'ers with the same issue do not have to go through this $h1t the same way I did. May your phone be swapped immediatly!

Grtz

Lukas
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
Err... wow?

Hopefully not speaking too soon but just now had an email from HTC to say my HD2 is being returned after repair & should be with me in a couple of days... looks like they weren't fibbing when they said to expect it to be about a week... it was delivered to them last Wednesday, 4 working days ago. :cool:

Hopefully it will arrive without fault or any scratches... :eek:
[HD2 General] chongbh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOTrqlz4jo

Definitely my next phone will still be Windows Mobile!
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
Trying not to stray off-topic for long!

Yeah - I watched the live broadcast today - very cool but it depends on what the developers come up with for apps otherwise the novelty of the interface will fade & leave us with an expensive, inflexible phone. If they maintain the adaptability of the pre-7 Series platform then I'll be a happy man! :cool:

No demo of the gestures that have been much touted, & gaming wasn't demonstrated either... just that you can look at your gaming profile.

Anyways, not long now for the return of my fixed HD2 so gonna be busy with that for a while! :D
[HD2 General] [★]:
I hope you get it back soon ;)

And Lukas, Im glad you got yours back.
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
BTW, I chose to use HTC for repair...

I maybe should stress a point - I was given the option by the retailer of using their own outsourced repair service or going directly to HTC...

I chose HTC thinking they would have the parts in stock & also since they built it they would have the best experience in fixing it.
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
Perfect!

Very relieved to say my HD2 arrived home today in perfect working condition. New screen & they even fixed the power/end-call button that had been feeling a bit limp.

Very happy so I recommend, from this experience, that if you get the option, send the phone back to HTC, not a 3rd party repairer.
[HD2 General] Lukasss:
Glad you got yours back so fast.

Couldn't agree more. Just call HTC hotline, don't go through your retailer.

Grtz

Lukas
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
it is newton ring you have to get your screen fixed as warranty does not cover newton ring
[HD2 General] vladimir2989:
can some one give me instructions on what exactly did they do with suction cup ? coz it dosnt seems to have any effect, also "massage" of the screen changed shape of the spot... i have called HTC thay told me to sed it to them, but i want to try suction cup coz i dont want to send it off for like 2 weeks :(
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
Mine went to HTC in Milton Keynes & was fixed & returned exactly 1 week later. :cool:

I think the long waits are over now they accept the problem is a straight fix rather than diagnose & apportion blame.
[HD2 General] vladimir2989:
how much did it cost you ?
[HD2 General] vladimir2989:
also, shuld i expect any reaction on the phone being HSPL unlocked ? (i did flash official Vodafone ROM, but device was orrigenally O2 (i unlocked it)

would any of that b a problem ?
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
Nothing for the warranty repair. They would've got the phone picked up by UPS too but I didn't want to wait in for collection so it cost about £5 to post it special delivery. They UPS it back to you free of charge.

I removed battery, SIM & memory card to reduce weight.

I removed HSPL as a precaution (wipes device & install stock ROM complete with SSPL).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611433
[HD2 General] clanmckinnon:
I had this, like oil on water under the glass, right in the middle of the screen. Press it and it grows. Pressed hard above it and i got another that slowly dissappears. It is pressure. i woke up after snoozing alarm to find fone in bed and olily smear (on the phone ;) ). got replacement thru tmobuk. jumped into car with new one in jeans back pocket-freaked -pulled out phone and there's another phone wrecked! HOWEVER squeezing the sides and a lot of kissing the screen and pleading seemed to work and is now fine. Now i've got a bright spot, just above halfway down, nr right hand edge. (not related)
[HD2 General] samer_m:
i have the same issue with the weird spot in the middle of the screen. i'm trying to understand the reason it happened in the first place. but i noticed one thing, couple of days ago i left my HD2 near the vents of my laptop unintentioally, some warm / hot air was blowing on it, what i realized is that the spot shrunk a lot, like only quarter of its original size. does it mean its humidity inside? after i removed it from near the laptop and after a while the spot was back. the issue is if its some humidity or dampness this means that the screen is not sealed properly and this can happen at any time? or is it just in our case who have the weird spots. i still dunno what to do!

i tried the suction cup it just moved the spot around, i'm hesitant but thinking of leaving near a blow drier; could the phone be damaged completely? i hope somebody out there has some answers or was able to get away with this spot.
[HD2 General] may_east:
happened to me too. 4 days after purchase.

dont know why.

sent it back to HTC in Hong Kong. they confirmed that LCD should be replaced, but was out of stock.

managed to get a new one from CSL instead, and gave them the old one after HTC repaied it.
[HD2 General] tboy2000:
I got the opposite. Not black, but white marks.Tiny white glowing dots (two) under the screen and only noticeable on white screens. It looks like light bleeding through. Also there is a faint brighter splodge too. Will it go away or should I send it back to my retailer or HTC? Had it since launch day.

Anyone else or is there a specific thread?
[HD2 General] bhand:
That is exactly what it it is, HUMIDITY.

I live in a place about 1500 Meters above sea level, took a trip down to Puerto Vallarta Mexico (resort beach area) that spot appeared on the screen of my HD2 and of course I got ¿?¿? since I could not relate what happened with any obvious event with (hitting or pressing too much etc.)

I came back home and one day after, the spot totally vanished and stayed that way.

One week after I went back to the beach and this time I left the phone inside the hotel room for safety and nevertheless the spot showed up again.

I am now back in my hometown and the spot is again gone fortunately.

Have you tried putting the phone in a dry fresh environment?
[HD2 General] Halle:
This has actually happened to mine HD2 to. And, the reason it happens, is if you apply to much pressure on the device. I had mine in my tight jeans pocket, and I leaned forward to tie my shoes. After that, I took my device out of my pocket - and there it was, the weird looking screen, just like on your pic.

However I guess I was lucky since I managed to get rid of it at once. I just bended and squeezed the HD2 a little bit, then the glass released from the LCD and made quite a funny sound, like "sloop" :D.

From that day on, I always remove my HD2 from my pockets when I'm sitting down or when I tie my shoes... ;)
[HD2 General] phikal:
Have the same problem after airplaneflight, one big spot and one smalller spot, rainbowcolors around it.

Seems to me this is a flaw in the design of the phone...
[HD2 General] Halle:
Simply put it; They have placed the glass way to close to the LCD, in order to be able to make the phone so thin. I just wonder, how the new Galaxy S and iphone 4 (wich are both thinner than the HD2), will stand to this issue.:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zylograth:
Official Windows Mobile 6.5 for t-Mobile Touch Pro 2 with Visual Voicemail!

https://htc.sharefile.com/?cmd=d&id=381f147646eb4674

Mirror http://76.163.140.78/RUU_Rhodium_S_TMOUS_1.91.531.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.57_Signed_Ship.exe
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dominicanman912:
:eek:wow could it actually be? i donwloaded it but im a work and cant flash till i get home. hopefuly by then others will have flashed and posted some screenshots... great find man!!!!:cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sk337sk337:
sweet niice find!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husker91:
Mirror -> http://zhdapps.com/tutorialdownload...31.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.57_Signed_Ship.exe

Happy Flashing!!

downloading now=0.. Will report back after flash
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cindemz:
thanks. downloading as I am typing...:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zylograth:
Can't take credit for finding it, but it originated from the T-Mobile support forums.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mob...to-release-Win-6-5-Upgrade/td-p/206586/page/8

all credit to that guy hehe
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dominicanman912:
well thank you for bringing it over here to xda... im on tmobile support site too. i just dont long on over there as much as i do over here... thanks again!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venomshot629:
I read on TMonews forums that it is only manila 2.1, with no "My Location" weather on homescreen...? Visual voicemail sounds nice though, but Im used to 2.5... Patiently waiting for others to report :)

Edit: Right now I am on Manila 2.5.19222911 using NRG's Dec. 31st ROM, can someone report on the version in TMo ROM? Also OS version?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] steviewevie:
Also a thread on this at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=613594
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zylograth:
My Location is on the Home tab but i think T-mobile changed the default wallpaper so I am not seeing animated weather to go along with it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venomshot629:
Hopefully someone can extract that Visual Voicemail and updated YouTube and Facebook Engines??

Zylograth, are there 3 shortcuts on homescreen? Also, is Facebook album now viewable from an individuals contact tab? Should say "Open Online Album"?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
File has been removed from the linked location. Glad I snagged it early...even though I doubt that I'll switch from agent_47's latest.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Young_e:
you should upload it somewhere for those of us that weren't lucky enough to snag it before they took it down
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pipemetralla:
link down

hey guys can someone upload the rom, the link is down an I really want to test this rom:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Knumb:
does anyone have a mirror for it? File has been removed...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Young_e:
i need a mirror too
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] deemota:
I have the file, I just don't have anywhere to upload it to. Any ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] husker91:
ill make a mirror, give me a sec
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MCbrian:
Sorry, I would, but I'm at work now and can't do that from here... :(

If nobody else has later I will...but I'm sure somebody else will come to the rescue before I get a chance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dominicanman912:
yes the epc setting is the new standard but some of us have older data plans.... my mms has to connect to wap.voicestream.com and the internet plan i have logs into internet2.voicestream.com...... try putting it into the settings and see if that works... mine does.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sixsevenco:
For me, my GPS is working, but google maps and bing maps seem to lag behind my actual position by a 1/2 block. Kind of annoying. Anyone else having this problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bluevmax92:
Windows mobile release leaked to our kids a long time ago!!!

just thought we need a bit of humor right here...

i found a toy at my girlfriends house that belongs to her daughter. kinda ironic that our kids got to play with windows mobile WAY BEFORE we ever did.... kinda. check out the pic
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DJ ELITE:
i couldn't get BING to triangulate my position. :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] k0nker:
ok i have a question i download the file on my phone i cant install the new mobile do i need download the file on my pc and then sync to my phone and install it? sorry im a noob i dont understand when u saying flash
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kable:
On first try BING did the same for me. Once I loaded QuickGPS and enabled GPS in Google maps ( which took like 3 seconds to locate me ) BING was showing my correct location on startup.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Showtime7:
You should read first.

1. Get winrar for your pc. Google it.

2. Right click the .exe file after download and extract it to a folder with winrar.

3. Find RUU_signed.nbh in the folder you just extracted to, rename it to RHODIMG.nbh

4. Copy RHODIMG.nbh to the main folder of your SD card. Hold Vol down and soft reset to enter bootlaoder, follow on screen instructions.

If that's confusing you might want to read through the wiki page on the Rhodium.