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[Windows Mobile Software Development] flyboyovyick:
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!!

fOUND THIS ON MSN!

According to a Microsoft executive, we are set to see the latest version of Microsoft's mobile operating system – the much-hyped Windows Mobile 7 – finally unveiled to the great unwashed at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona next month.

It is hardly the most surprising news, as many mobile industry punters were secretly hoping to see the new mobile operating system being shown off by Microsoft at CES this month. But that clearly did not come to be.

Mobile World Congress launch

Entertainment and Devices Division president Robbie Bach claimed that Windows Mobile 7 "things will be talked about at MWC" at the company's Financial Analyst meeting at CES.

"I've seen it and played with it. It will set the bar forward not in (just) an evolutionary way," added Bach.

Bach went on to add that Microsoft plans to be "more engaged" with OEMs in its "go to market approach."

Microsoft clearly hopes to change the shifting emphasis away from Windows Mobile to Apple's iPhone and Google's Android with the latest version of its mobile operating system. We are looking forward to bringing you all the news from the ground in Barcelona next month.

FLYBOY
[Windows Mobile Software Development] icedragon999:
Sounds good. I'll keep my eyes open! Thanks for info.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
I just really hope that Microsoft knows that if this is WM7 is not earth-shatteringly epoch-making, then they are almost all but screwed in the mobile market, and will get torn up. I have been a winmo supporter, but with all thid screwing around recently, it's hard to be optimistic. Most winmo oems are now 50/50 w. android.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] addicus:
Since WM 7 will not be trying to support millions of "older" users from 3 different systems I have high hopes for what MS will be unveiling. I truly feel they can get it done and give us a complete system that functions well, is easy to use and visually stimulating. Why do I feel this? They have done it with Windows 7 and proven it may take a long time, but they can do something "right" for this current generation.

If not - I must agree that they will be dead in the water concerning mobile phones.

Thank you for the updates Flyboy.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kholk:
YEAH!!!!! If WM7 will be out next month... the HTC HD2 will surely get an upgrade!

Hooray! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eskasi:
YAY!!!!! Too... from another HD2 owner :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] addicus:
Even better - maybe the TMobile USA version of the HD2 will come with Mobile 7. Now that would be a coup!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] biranouran:
Yes, this info helps the sale of HTC HD2. but just a nut behind Iphone. WM7 will be a geek's toy, and it's all.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vader165:
i have to dampen your expectations, but remember 6.5? ANNOUNCED in feb. at this MWC, released in oct.

most sources report wm7 will be released q4 2010.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] japanfred:
Guys, he never said it would be released.

Just a public debut, probably a walkthrough of nice new features and other such stuff. Don't get your hopes up about ROM's.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rajivshahi:
It's going to be released in Q4 2010... may be we might get a preview of it, in next month or so...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Lazy79:
a preview next month? wow.. would be absoluty great.. looking forward because windows mobile 7 is the real new mobile version compared to winmob 6.5 release which is just a little step into nothing just fingerfriendly.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] hsmcd:
totally agree with you...really hope that it would be next month. Can't wait to show off to iPhone or android (if only it can) :D

Microsoft come on, claim back your title in mobile market!! :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] hasseye:
Question is Did he mention it was WM7? Or did he just say "the next version of WM"???

lets look at reality guys...what is the next version of windows mobile? is it windows mobile 7??

no.....im a windows fan and have been, however i just hope they dont let us down...im kinda scared hes gnna announce windows mobile 6.5.3.3 or Windows Mobile 6.7 or something

i mean they announced 6.5, u think there gonna jump right to 7 without explaining another OS that came out??

I do believe WM7 will be released late this year, im just not so sure there gnna announce 7 without announcing their "latest OS so far" which is what were all running on our phones, remember the leaked version of another OS, wm6.5.3.3??

Windows announced that theres gonna be two OS to be running on phones simultansously withing the next few months/years...6.5 and 7. WM6.5 will be the cheaper version and 7 will be the elite version....i hope im wrong, just have a bad feeling about them prolonging this as much as possible. December 31st will be the first day windows 7 hits stores. Late Q4

to all you HD2 users...soorry but keep getting familiar with 6.5, cause 7 won't be on your devices for at least another 6 months, and thats being generious.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] segadc:
Don't forget the latest news of Xbox Live coming to Windows Phone (probably WM7 only)!

http://kotaku.com/5445100/xbox-live-officially-heading-for-mobile-phones?skyline=true&s=i
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jigar2speed5095:
Should i be happy that i will be able to upgrade my HTC VIVA when Win 7 comes, or just see you guys celebrate with faster CPUs ?:(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] DMAND:
Not sure I understand that question right but I dont see why people would want to try to hack WM7 to run on anything older than a HD2, it would be like trying to run Windows Vista (yup not even 7) on an old 486 200 MHz Computer

Im guessing given the minimum spec that even if it did run you would have to turn off so much of the fancy stuff that it wouldnt be worth it in the end.

Thats why 6.5.3 etc is there, to update older phones.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Triphazard:
WM7 was taking too long in the pipeline so they released 6.5 in the interim.

Think of it like Windows Se7en. Everything Vista should have been.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] hasseye:
i understand the reason of 6.5.3/.3 and 7....

my point was, if they developed and changed 6.5 to 6.5.3.3 i personally doubt there just going to ignore it and introduce wm7 at some of these conferences, one/some/all of these conferences are gonna have to introduce the latest 6.5
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ramdroid77:
IMO 6.5.3 = 6.5

The differences aren't THAAAT much. What has changed? Start menu gone to bottom. Small fix in the OS, big results for the user experience. A few very sloppy apps aren't working properly anymore but WFT?? After all not much has changed so I don't think they need to announce it once more.

They'll introduce WM 7!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] hasseye:
i wouldd beee shocked if they do not have at least a few conferences explaining the change....remember us as XDA members know that there isnt really that many changes....however microsoft hass beeen realeasing and updating crazyy builds...they changed the contacts and some other thigns as well as the big change of the UI button locations...i really doubt there gonna let their hard work go without being noticed by someone.

then again what do i know....and what does everyone else know

only people that know is microsoft themselves.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ramdroid77:
you sure? ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] daniel_rh:
Is this real or it is just another stock photo?

Source: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2010/jan10/01-11FutureOfRetail.mspx
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jagan2:
Buddy i also have htc touch viva and the truth is forget about windows mobile 7 for viva we wont get official when there is no wm 6.5 itself official but yes unofficially also there is almost no chance we can get as many experts are saying that it will be totally new core and requires higher hardware .
[Windows Mobile Software Development] daniel_rh:
I read somewhere that Microsoft was dropping VGA and QVGA resolution support on WM7, so I doubt itwill work on our current devices like Viva and in my case, the Touch Pro.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] djdafreund:
actually, Microsoft just announced yesterday that they are pushing back the release of Windows Mobile 7 to 2011, so it'll be a while.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Keland44:
LAME

i really hope it's worth the wait though

i noticed a thread the other day on tuaw (apple website) they had an interesting article about what users wanted for the next version of the iphone os 4.0

it would be interesting to see what everybody would want to see in the next version of windows mobile

I know for me some key things i would want to see is

* html email enabled in email (without having to enable it each time)

* better outlook integration (getting better with the new lastest 6.5.3 build)

* better app store something on par with iphone and andriod

* flash enabled browser (get with firefox or opera and do something together)

* using hardware resources better (call volume on most phones seem to be pretty bad unless you do some xda'in to it)

*might light way os get rid of the bloat but make it powerful (take a lesson from some of the great chef's we have here on xda)

* a nice mix between using it as a work phone along with a business phone

* needs to have more of a say in the hardware department or kinda like how google did with nexus one and htc htc makes great phones but they could be more functional an stylish and not lack in the hard of performance especially with all these great chipsets out here (nvidia tegra)

but that's just me i would be interested in seeing what else everyone would want to see from windows mobile 7
[Windows Mobile Software Development] noellenchris:
search for that....it's been publicly denied by M$. It's still on schedule for Q4 of 2010. :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] daniel_rh:
You're right, it was just a bad rumor
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ajhvdb:
iPhone 4G to be released in april.

Now i don't have any excuses anymore. It has a camera flasher.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] vetvito:
Windows mobile has and will forever be a platform.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ramdroid77:
I just read an article (in german language so probably doesn't make sense to post link) that WM 7 will be introduced in the MIX’10 conference in Las Vegas. The support for less devices and less resolutions (which lead to current problems in the OS) and the Q4/2010 release date is also confirmed. The also wrote they restructured the develoment team/process like they did when working on Windows 7. Good things to come, I'm sure!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Bulldog:
WM7 is the last shot for MS. if they miss that shot they will be gone on Mobile Phone biz. The good and bad thing of MS is they are knowledge wise and resources wise able to to turn the thing to success, but they are to big and have also to much internal politics amount each biz. sections.

I think that google has bring his own branded phone on the market was ONE MORE WAKE UP CALL for MS. I hope it did not come to late for WM7 development.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] hasseye:
"We were pretty sure that Microsoft would be announcing Windows Mobile 7 at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona next month, but an article from the Digitimes presents a different picture. According to their sources, Microsoft will be talking about Windows Mobile 6.6 in February (known by us as 6.5.3) which will feature support for capacitive screens. The article states that Microsoft may delay Windows Mobile 7 until 2011. If this is true, Microsoft is going to face a lot of heat next month from a disappointed crowd."

http://pocketnow.com/rumor/will-there-be-a-windows-mobile-66-announcement-at-mobile-world-congress

looks like i stand corrected. To everyone previously, as a company microsoft would not waste the time developing on OS and then jsut forget about it and not market it...that would be a waste. Do not expect a WM7 announcement anytime soon...there all just rumors. I give it at least 4-5 months, especially when they said it won't be released till 2011.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] orb3000:
Windows Mobile 7 could be delayed until year 2011

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=617810

:(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] blauze:
Anyone have news on silverlight on mobile? if they could release that news next month, that would be good. SkyFire browser does it, shouldn't be that hard to push it on the system itself.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] corsacopc:
have everyone for HTC Diamond WM6.5 german ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] chompx2:
Part Two

Installing the protective film on the sides (Chrome Bezel).

I started with the bottom strip first as it is one of the shortest one. I always choose the easiest task to gain experience. There was a notch on the bottom left size. I believe it is cut out for the microphone. Worrying that I might cover the microphone, I lined up the film strip to the top edge of the chrome bezel (Mistake no. 2). I was careful; not placing the strip too far up or it would catch my finger when I push those hardware buttons on the lower edge. The bottom film strip was short and I more of less got it in a good position.

Then I started both side pieces at the same time, wetting the strips (Mistake no.3). I then placed them on the sides trying to line them up against the upper edge and not too far up so they would protrude above the chrome bezel. I just could not get them in the right position. The film strips were long and limpy. They slide and glide along the edges. It was a chore just trying to position one piece. Doing both was impossible. I had to place one at the edge of the bowl that contained my wetting solution (adhesive side up). Working with one piece was still impossible. I just could not place it correctly; the film would not stick until the wetting solution was almost dry up. By the time the film was ready to be glue down, the position was not right again. So off it went and back to the wetting solution bowl.

I was fretting and not in a happy state until I took a look at the "credit card" that was used to remove bubbles and excess water. I made a bad decision when I tried to line up the film strip against the top edge of the bezel. I should have line it up with the bottom of the bezel. It was actually easy if I slide the "credit card" between the screen and keyboard. The lower edge of the film could just be resting on the "credit card" while it was waiting to be dried. When the film was ready, I pressed the middle and worked my way to the edges of the strip. Once the film is secured (not longer moving) on the chrome bezel. I pulled the "credit card" out and used it to remove bubble and excess water.

The opposite long strip went on without any fuss. The last piece on the top got done in a short time also. It took quite some time but most of the time was waiting for the wetting solution to be dried. Before I figured out how to do this, I was trying constantly holding on to the strip correcting its position.

The cut out on the top piece was a bit tight and I did not get it place perfectly. Otherwise, it was on quite well. I ended up using a X-acto knife and knick off a tiny piece to uncover the whole power button.

The top part of the battery cover was a little too short, an additional of 0.8-1.0mm would be about right.

The smudge on the edge is my finger print.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] chompx2:
Part Three

I installed the film on the screen last as I was worried about not doing it correctly and ended up with bad gaps and bubbles. Actually this was the easy part. I did have to peel it off twice before I got this correct. I thought I would speed up the process by getting rid of most of the wetting solution on the film before I apply. The film was applied and was sticky very fast. I could not move the film and position it. So I have to peel it off and wet it again. It was the third try before I got it right. I was worried about too much wetting solution getting to the speaker. I should have applied the same amount just like when I did the back. I did have some Q-tips at hand to soak up any wetting solution that was squeezed off the edges. I then applied the hair dryer carefully to speed up the process,

Conclusion

Do not afraid of the wetting solution. Using more will make it easier to position but it’ll take longer to stick. I would avoid removing and reinstalling the film. This would give the adhesive a chance to get lint or dirt stick on it.

Use a smooth card instead of a credit card. Hotel room key card works great. Hotel room key card does not have embossed letters. You can use it to roll over the edges on the film.

Slide a card between the key board and the screen for the Chrome Bezel. Line the film on the bottom edge. Do not let any film protrude above the screen.

Do not place any tissue close to where you are working. I know about the lint issue but still grabbed the tissue just because it was at hand.

Applying heat with a hair dryer is fine and it will cure the film and you can use the phone next morning. Just be very careful not over heating the phone.

I applied this set in 3 evenings. I did one part at a time so I could give as much time as possible for the film to dry.

GadgtShieldsz fits OK. The top piece for the chrome bezel should be longer and wider.

The back piece could be slightly bigger and the gaps on top 2 corners could be narrower.

The screen piece fits great. It does drags very little but I have no problem with it.

Otherwise, this GadgtShieldsz is hard to beat. It is cheap and provides good coverage (protection) all over,

Learn from my mistakes and may your installation comes out better than mine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] MightyCrys:
Great job, mate! I think you did excellent! Unfortunately, they don't make shield for the unbranded version I have so I had to buy one from bodyguardz which I still wait to receive, but I bought one for my friend's Omnia and is great, came in 3 days also :)

I still believe it's the best considering the price!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] chompx2:
Thanks Bud! I notice that the Bodyguardz has those pieces on the Chrome Bezel. Just remember to slide a card between the keyboard and the screen. This would make the installation much easier and the protective film is straight. If the film is cut right, you do not have to worry about the film protruding above the Bezel. Good luck on your installation and do not forget to post pictures. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Jowan073db:
I'm Searching for an HD2 Rom in my own Languide (Dutch)

now i make a poll For HD2 users that wants there own Languide on there HD2 with custom rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] rlydiard:
It would be great if there were cabs that could add fonts and keyboard support.

By the way, there is a slight problem with the poll. Chinese is the proper spelling. Also there are two variants of the language. China uses Simplified Characters (CHS), while places like Taiwan and Hong Kong still use Traditional Characters (CHT). Not knowing whether you mean CHT or CHS, I guess I can't vote in the poll.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] AKK03:
The Asia WWE comes with chinese ime and font, including them in a cab will be nice.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] simon_666:
And what about polish and other eastern european languages? It's really hard to find a proper ROM with these languages included...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] daming:
In the word CHT or CHS, C means Chinese.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] rlydiard:
CH = Chinese, T = Traditional, S = Simplified

And, that is right from Microsoft (I write and edit for Microsoft through one of Microsoft's PR vendors.) You must be aware that the encoding for traditional and simplified Chinese characters is not the same.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harky:
i need a chinese input cum read~~
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Mudgle:
I would like to see a finnish rom for hd2, I could do it myself if someone helps me out with it, i could allso translate other apps to finnish if someone is interested
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cranesky:
I would like to see a rom for hd2 support with support of chinese
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harky:
althought most of the cook rom say is WWE but it dont have chinese support.. so it cannot say it that rom is a WWE rom
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] rlydiard:
Maybe I am all confused and wrong, but I always thought that WWE = World Wide English. Can you explain to me what the relationship is between the Chinese language and WWE?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] harky:
haha maybe i mis-taking i tot wwe will have chinese input in it..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] rlydiard:
Well, I do hope that this thread can produce some results. As I live in Taiwan, but am a native speaker of English, I want an English UI, along with support for traditional Chinese, and simplified Chinese would also be nice. I know there are official ROMS from HTC that support an English UI with Chinese support, but it would sure be nice to have some language cabs that we could install on custom ROMS.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] rlydiard:
Suggestion

Unfortunately the poll does not seem to be attracting a large interest.

I wonder if the poll included the following it might attract more participation, as it would be more inclusive. (The list comes from Microsoft)

This is just a suggestion for the OP.

Available locales:

0404 CHT Chinese Traditional

0804 CHS Chinese Simplified

0405 CSY Czech

0406 DAN Danish

0413 NLD Dutch

0409 USA English

0407 GER German

0408 ELL Greek

040b FIN Finnish

040c FRA French

040e HUN Hungarian

0410 ITA Italian

0411 JPN Japanese

0412 KOR Korean

0414 NOR Norwegian

0415 PLK Polish

0416 PTB Portuguese Brazil

0816 PTG Portuguese Portugal

0418 ROM Romanian

0419 RUS Russian

041b SKY Slovak

0c0a ESN Spanish

041d SVE Swedish

041f TRK Turkish

I know a few people also want Arabic support.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] maps71:
This will be nice 0816 PTG Portuguese Portugal
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] markarty:
I am in the same case than rlydiard :( I want to keep my english system (with also my french input) but I would like to be able to use traditional chinese with bopomofo or pinyin. Because I need it for Taiwan...

I am sure someone can cook a rom by extracting the chinese input from Taiwanese phone (for the bopomofo input) and add it to a european rom version. Can someone please try it ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] abuawab:
can you please add Arabic to that poll?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tbela:
tbela

Hungarian!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] johnonly:
I just started a thread I am also in serious need of the ezInput with Chinese Simplified Support in a CAB file...

man that would make life soooo much nicer... man!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] zolinagy:
A hungarian Rom would be nice. There is some official on the www.sunnysoft.com/htc webpage, but not for TMOUS phones.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Segoy:
Polish. You've missed it in your poll.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] F-bone:
great idea! is this possible?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] yunstar88:
i could not agree with you more dude!!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] zigzagzok:
yes chinese is good

japanese too!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mbsb0812:
Portuguese??

Missing Portuguese?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Dasf77:
0816 PTG Portuguese Portugal
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jan-willem3:
You looked to my langauge pack for windows mobile 6.5.X custom roms?

6.5 will be avaible soon.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] leginag:
I'd also be after a ROM which can support the reading of Japanese and Chinese characters.