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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BHS Interceptor:
:D:D:D In order to make good things, it takes some time, unless you make a bad thing, you should ammend your error as fast as possible.

Artemis ROMs are great, the best around - and that´s because Master Sternas takes his time making them the best. No need to hurry :)

As you know, even though I´m a "CoOkie-Fanatic", I do agree 100% with you :D

First, I would and will never flash a ROM with CHT cooked in - until now it´s been proven that some ROMS with CHT cooked in have problems with CHT, while other´s with CHT as cab install afterwards work very well (either 1.8.5.1, lower versions which are also very good, or even CHT 2.0 with all it´s addon´s like CHTS and CHTS Loco)

Second, the "stock-close-philosophy" is for me the way to go, BUT keeping in mind, that Sir Sternas always includes the best fixes, most advanced and stable tweaks and more of his magic in his ROMs, as well as a proper sorted amount of "standard" (and not so standard - Artemis Center, NoData) reliable apps.

Third, I think it should be the user who decides which other apps he need based on his personal taste and needs...

You´re both right, but I also prefer to be able to change the registry instead of having an app doing things to my device without me knowing what exactly has been done... This implies to learn a bit about registry and understand how these changes work. Some apps remind me of a well know Windows saying when Win95 releaved Win for Workgroups 3.11 = "Plug and Pray". I felt the same when I started modding my phone and installing cabs... "Install & Pray"...

Oh, and please forgive me my off topics ;) I just changed my main device from BlackBerry to another HTC. Now I use an HD Mini (but keep as always one of my HD2s "Artemis ROMmed" as PDA. And I have a hughe question, even asking for kind of a favour to Sir Sternas: Could you please let me know, if there is a way to "port" the Artemis Center to the HD Mini? Or even "teach" me how to be able to tweak manila to enable Full Manila Rotation (reg key enabling g sensor works only for some apps, but not for manila)? I know this is asking for very much, but I´d really love to have an Artemis (or Artemis like) ROM for mi Mini (which I find to be an exceptional device as well) :D:D:D

After a week of usage with Artemis v 54, I can only say that I´m loving the ROM day by day even more... Awesome job done. Runs excellent without any issues running Sense (with CHT 2.0), Titanium, Artemis Home, SPB Shell and Host 1.5 :D

Muchas gracias Sir Sternas for all your effort and your outstanding ROMs :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antaed:
Dear Sir Sternas,

My fellow Artemis voyagers,

I'm very glad to be back to the mothership after a 4 month adventure to the exotic territories of WP7 and Android - thanks to Cotulla for the HSPL4 lifeboat :).

I had a great time in my long journey, with many ups and downs but like the proverb says - there's no place like home :D.

I see many things have changed since I left, so I have a lot to catch up now - see you around guys ;).

Cheers,

antaed
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Skyguar:
Totally agree with you Antaed,

After trying WinPhone 7 and Android some weeks, there is no more pleasant thing on earth to come back to Artemis Rom :D. Always feels like home. Nice to try new things and new possibilities in order to move forward with the future things, but always good to come back and enjoy the things improved by honorable Sternas programming skills.

Besides, I am big fan of navigation systems and could say that there are no beter navigation programs (and variety of them) that the ones which come on WinCe platform. And that are my two cents to WinMo 6.5 system :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Stephen.chaves:
Can I use it on a Telstar? i actually using artemis 36, rigt now my hd2 is on service, but i want to try the new one.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Welcome back guys...:D

any conclusion from your "Odyssey"
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Skyguar:
Thanks Sir,

Well, the Android I didn't like at all...

But the windows phone 7 has to have some good future possibilities.. :D

But there are still lots of problems, but I did like 720p recording and smoothness...

But the future could be more bright for this system...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi Anread,

there is nothing, as yet, better than Artemis ROM. Welcome back!!! I know I'm not objective in that, but the only really functioning "mothership" untill now is WonMo 6.5.5. with Artemis ROM.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Also Skyguar,

welcome back. I agree with you about Android. WinMo7 has to evolve a lot further to beat Artemis! And: the only really functioning "mothership" untill now is WinMo 6.5.5. with Artemis ROM!! I know I'm objective about this, but nevertheless.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mikempower:
with Artemis (and few other roms)wm 6.5 is again on the top,but i have tio admit that stability and smoothness of wp7 is incomparable with no other systems..when you use it it seems you're touching the window you are scrolling with your finger...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antaed:
Android is not my piece of cake and it will never be my primary OS.

It has some cool apps and games and it is very good with syncing but it looks and feels (to me) like an OS for kids...

WP7 is another story. It lacks some important features to become my OS of choice but I find it very promising.

Very fast, smooth like silk and amazing cloud account integration. The UI is a love and hate thing but I fell for its simplicity and effectiveness. If customization will become possible, I think it will become a killer...

The main shortcomings are well known already:

- lack of multitasking for 3rd party apps (and no task switcher) - MS says it's coming this year;

- copy-paste missing, blah, blah... - coming with the next update;

- no auto-focus function with the camera - the problem is only with our HD2 because we don't have a 2 stage camera button;

- some multitouch issues, especially with pictures - also an HD2 issue because we only have 2 point multitouch screens instead of 4.

I am very curious about the future of the MS-Nokia marriage, I think there are 2 possible outcomes:

- either it will prove to be a disaster and the world will be ruled by the androids and the communists;

- or it will be a success and we still have a chance for a free world :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antaed:
Glad to see we have similar views... :)

Thank you Kuzibri :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi Antead,

It's very funny: I do agree with you on the Android opinion, but whenever I say/write that Android is for "youngsters" (you call them kids), almost the entire community falls over me. So, I'm curious what kind of comments you get!!

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Ath73:
I'm just waiting here...and i'd be very surprised if this is not end up to that same old story.

Regards, Ath73
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] raven_raven:
lol

To think that 3 years ago Android was (and it still is, but nvm) all about openess, freedom and open-source. It was predicted to free us from iPhone and Apple with their not-so-straight rules.

And today there are ppl who compare Android to communism and say that WP7 is freeing us, heh.

I also want to add, that TBH, with all respect, don't call Android "OS for kids". If you prefer Windows Mobile (or one of it's highly enhanced distribution called Artemis ROM) then it's good for you. No one really makes you use Android. But there are ppl who prefer different OS and that does not mean that it's OS for kids, it's not an fully functional OS and users aren't as pro as you. Just sayin'.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
I really do respect your opinion and everybody has the right to it's own opinion, but I'm not amused with this quote:"If you prefer Windows Mobile (or one of it's highly enhanced distribution called Artemis ROM) then it's good for you". This last quote is IMHO a rather blunt insult to all the good work Sir Sternas does for us. Thanks to all his hard work, we still have an HD2 that still beats Android, WinMo7 or whatever other OS. Before you start an endless discussion about this, I directly admit that I'm not objective in this matter, but I do regret your choice or words.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
mass installer

sir sternas,

i have tested the mass installer the last two artemis versions... it is a very powerful and useful tool. but some of my cabs caused problems.. they won't install and i have to install them seperately.

they are:

galarm 2.5

icq

opera mobile 10

tomtom navigator 7.918

the mass installer just hang up when i have these programs in my list with all the others... i don't think it's a problem with your mass installer, but maybe something is wrong with those cabs... or they ask for user interaction, that is not turned off by your option to ignore them...

it's no problem for me, i just want to let you know what i found out...

oh, and the android thing... like linux and mac os... people like it, or they don't... but if they say it's for kids, they have no idea... ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi kb1313,

some apps require a restart/SR of the device, but Installer does not (yet) ask for this and keeps installing all apps until it's finished. That's the main problem of (mass) installer. Further it's a wonderfull app that saves a lot of time.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
thanks for the answer kuzibri,

but i don't think that this is the problem with those cabs... as they don't ask for a restart, when installing them seperatly... it has to be something else...

and yes, it saves a lot of time!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antaed:
you missinterpreted my post, i was referring to apple/iphone...

also, i did not mean wp7 is freeing us but rather preventing a "duopoly" and thus providing us (customers) with more freedom to choose...

by saying that, i did not mean to insult anybody and i appologize if i offended you or anybody else for that matter. i did not mean to say android users are kids but there is something about that os that doesn't allow ME to take it seriously.

p.s. oh, i almost forgot. look in my signature mate, sometimes i like to go there myself... but just for the fun of it :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] adazamim:
All community but me, I never opposed you :D

But you funny dear friend Kuzibri, I couldn't stop laughing at your comment.

And let's wait to see what falls over antaed for saying so, :D:D

With all respect and no offense to all my dear friends on the forum:o

EDIT: They've began already lol
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BHS Interceptor:
Muchas gracias amigo ;) Guess you´re right, especially if the cab is "programmed" right. But then again, you also know that a lot of them are not, and after uninstalling sometimes the only option left is to do a HardReset.

And I do love ceregeditor. I only use the devices reg editor in emergency cases or when I don´t have my Laptop available :)

Wellcome back Antaed. Glad to see you also left version 37 behind :D

I agree with you totally :D My wife loves Android - and she´s not a "kid" anymore either, but I don´t take that literally. Android is not childish, nor anything similar. It is a great OS for people who´s needs and taste are satisfied by it. Mine are not, so I stick to WinMo 6.5.x, especially with Artemis ROMs. Too bad Sternas isn´t cooking anything for the Mini :(

Oh, and regarding WP/, I like it a lot, I see it´s potential and I also fell for it because of the same reasons you mentioned above. But the drawbacks are still there, at least atm. But indeed, it will be a killer when time comes, so my guess is that´s the answer to the possible outcome. Nokia thought well and made it very clear on where to place their bet leaving symbian :)

@ Sir Sternas, please check your in Box - sent you a PM ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RolandCruise:
Yes, you are right...if you check the market only for funny apps and funny games.

But there is a lot more than that, on the apps side and, much more important, on the user experience side.

And for "non-kids" too ;)

Furthermore, (now I talk about all this kind of posts, not only yours) referring to Android as "OS for kids" or childish or whateveryouwant in your opinions, when all about you are talking are its apps and its user interface (unless between all of you there are linux/unix developers able

at least

to compile a linux kernel, and in this case, please, ignore what I'm saying...) denotes how the majority of your opinions are too much superficial.

So, you all don't like the Android UI and this is understandable, but you can't like or dislike the OS if you don't even know how it works ;)

And finally, if there are developers between you who don't like the OS, I'd like to know what about the OS you don't like, because I don't even know well enough how it works and I'd like to learn ;)

@kuzibri: now the entire community will fall over me... :D ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antaed:
@RolandCruise

what we all need to do here is differtiate between objective and subjective views.

the key words in my post are "looks" and "feels" so i admit my perspective is purely subjective. i don't know much about linux/unix so my view on this matter is that of an average user, of a "random citizen" if you want... :)

is the fact that "i know" the os is capable of a lot more, sufficient for me to change my point of view? no, knowing is not enough, it is all about experience...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RolandCruise:
I totally agree on this.

So I was right...you don't like the UI/user experience. And this is subjective, you are right ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi Ahmed,

I know, that's why I wrote "almost the entire".

your funny friend Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Guess I wrote a very funny, yet honest, post!! And let's hope not for you!! This I mean of course: @kuzibri: now the entire community will fall over me...

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djsolidsnake86:
cht can be installed?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Yes Sir

Artemis has NO applications limits...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djsolidsnake86:
i see :)

regarding battery consumation how is the situation?

i'm tryng from first day android in nand, and battery consumation is too fast :((
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Better than Javadroid... :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djsolidsnake86:
javadroid? :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] huismeester:
Sir Sternas how about the translation from the oranje today screen its a long time ago
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
I think that what Sir Sternas means that his ROM in combination with WinMO 6.5.5 is far more battery friendly than Android, with or without NAND. I use Artemis long enough to know that it's the most battery friendly ROM, certainly when compared to Android or WinMo7.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djsolidsnake86:
i see, thank you ;) i'll try soon this rom
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Yes Sir,

Java on top of a cut-version Linux Kernel

the Android 3.0 emulator is so slow (PC with 4CPU/8Gb RAM/GeForce GTS 250 1024 MB GDDR3)

..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] huismeester:
Yes battery live is bad even with an original WP7 device like HD7 or Trophy
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] z_harris:
I am agree with mr. Kuzibri.

Thanks to mr.Sternas and his job - I have to say that Artemis rom IS the most battery frendly rom ever.

Regards.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] syb09:
verry nice!!!!!!!!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
One thing I know about that: the NLD version is already available for a long time. Maybe Orange HS is not a priority (anymore) for Sir Sternas or he just forgot about that with all the new developments in Artemis ROM itself?!

If you want the NLD translation for OHS, ask Sir Sternas's permission (preferably by PM) that I can upload the NLD version to you. I will not do that without his explicite permission!

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Could you explain your post a bit more? Just the statement of "very nice", raises only questions about what is so very nice!

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
I freeze OHS because I DEV Artemis Home Screen

Lab news

-Update OS/Drivers/HTC Libraries

-Update SysInfo application (attach image 1)

-Update some HTC packages

some tests from Artemis Imager API (attach image 2)

you can try this API test (attach 3) upzip to SD Card and run...

oh, I can build this small test and for Win32, Win64, Linux32, Linux64 etc...

on request...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
My dear Friend,

I already mentioned to Huismeester that OHS is not your priority at this moment, which is obvious to me.

What to expect from attachment 3?

your dear friend Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
My friend

Imager API, it's an Multi-OS image library with

Alpha-blending, antialiasing, filters etc, without MS libraries...:D

it's NOT usable yet, it's only for preview

aka, software technology preview...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Thanks for your fast answer my dear friend!!

Edit: looks very nice my friend!!! You keep amazing me!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vandeo:
A little question for You guys, with knowlege base for artemis. Is it possible to make calendar to show on home screen several appointments (below alarm and date on sense) beside the one that is showing? And on lock screen too? Like, make icons a bit smaller and lower, so it makes room for a few appointmens more. But, if it could avoid installing CHT, I don't wont to spoil this great rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Dear vandeo,

I'm really afraid that what you want is only possible by installing CHT and CHT Editor. And, as usual, I recommend 1.8.5.1. Sorry to have no other solution!

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
sorry, i don't know if what you ask is possible without cht... but i can tell you, that you won't spoil this rom with cht... it's a great software, running on a great rom... it will still be fast and stable!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mistieger:
What is relationship between MS/Nokia alliance and communist / free world?

Hodoronc tronc !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antaed:
I'm talking about the "smartphone OS war":

The androids (Google) took the lead in Q4-2010, with ~33% marketshare.

Together with the commies (Apple) they own 50% from the market.

Both are growing fast - iOS 86%; Android: 615%! (Q4-2009 vs Q4-2010)

Symbian (Nokia) is the main competitor and has just lost the 1st place.

Windows Mobile is apparently left for dead (by MS). Windows Phone 7 was just brought to life but still needs to justify its purpose.

Nokia+MS brings hope for a fair fight at the top with the other 2.

I don't like the idea of having to choose only between Android and iOS in the future. I want more freedom :)...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Dear friend,

I'm also a member who can make firm statements, but to link Android to Communists is IMHO one step too far. I respect everyone's opinion but this is way out of line. Of course there is a possibilty that I misinterpret your post, but nevertheless, this is my opinion about this. I also do not agree that WinMo mobile is left for dead, maybe by MS, but certainly not by Sir Sternas. Your reaction is just too black and white while there are also grey colors. Just my 2 cents.

Let me be clear, I respect your opinion, but do not have to agree with it.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mistieger:
If indeed MS (soft) and Nokia (hard) will work together, they will be successful in the marketplace.

This could mean more dangerous than a monopoly Android + IOS.

Remember the collaboration between Intel and MS Windows, which has led to the supremacy of Windows and "Intel inside".
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antaed:
Kuzibri, my friend, I'm afraid you misinterpreted my post... :)

Unfortunately, no matter how brilliant it is, Artemis does not count in the "OS war".

WM has 3% marketshare in Q4-2010 and has dropped by 20% since Q4-2009.

How much of those 3% is represented by HD2 users?

How many of the HD2 users flash custom ROMs?

And finally, how many WM6.5 custom ROM users have Artemis on their HD2s?

No matter how bad it sounds, one day we will all have to move forward from our beloved HD2...

This is possible yet highly improbable because the competition is too strong.

I think it is more probable that the marriage will prove to be a disaster.

Let's hope not... :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antaed:
kuzibri, guys,

the one that should be sorry is me. without wanting to, i started a useless off-topic discussion on this nice thread. i appologize to you and sir sternas for this.

to end this, you all took my words way too seriously and i regret i wasn't able to make my point clear to you. i would love to try harder but this is not the right place for it...

cheers ;)

antaed
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi my friend,

no hard feelings!! You do not have to be/feel sorry, because eveyone is entitlled to his own opinion, but sometimes you can indeed get heavy criticism. But all in all: we are one big family, so do not worry/feel bad about this!!

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BHS Interceptor:
Off and On Topic

Yep, I guess that´s down to the point... I also almost fell for the idea/concept behind N900 with Maemo and all the potential it offered... but got me an HD Mini with WinMo 6.5.3 and Sense instead. And I love my HD2 with Artemis on it :D

Yes, too bad sometimes in a hurry I´ve installed some stuff without looking at what´s in it and what it will do :o Now I take my time and check properly :)

:D:D:D I always figured OHS would be only a "step-stone" in between - for the real AHS :) Looks interesting, very interesting...

And muchas gracias for PM Sir Sternas ;)

Possible yes, all of it :eek: Question is, do you want to learn Lua, Mode9, Manila, etc....? If not, then either you have to find someone who mods the corresponding files for you, or use CHT and check or dev widgets for it.

Regarding the icons, it´s about the same, but with CHT you can set them as FreeLinks and thus "size" and "place" them where you want ;)

CHT is ment for a ROM like this :D:D:D

"Freedom of choice" my friend :) That´s a very deep and serious statement, almost makes be get "·philisophical"...

Hola amigos, maybe we actually should open an ArtemisInternal Chat/Off topic thread :) Seriously, Sternas´ ROMS are simply great, awesome and most bug free, so we could leave this thread for real ROM Dev only, and have a separate one for the off topic and chatting... But then again, this also something I like about this thread and the Artemis family.... We all are so different and share this one common ROM and every once in a while, we get to know eachother through our posts in this thread a bit better :D Thanks to all :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djsolidsnake86:
guys if i want pass to android in nand, and backup all settings and apps of artemis there is a way to do this?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
The Artemis settings itself you can backup with Artemis Center to SD Card. Regarding Apps: you can either copy them to SD Card in a seperate folder or copy them to PC also in a seperate folder.

regards, Kuzibri