yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
It's not mine that's the problem and I respect the poster.

If you realy like that proggie why don't you register?

I don't see the point doing that. :confused:

You registered here as well isn't?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
Ok no probs, i joined the forum, got the file and shut the account down again!

Just thought that since it is a freeware, and the app is pretty cool, you could post it and a link to increase its popularity!

Thanks for the link though appreciated.

I have a question about your rom, do you have a plan for a lite version? or one without HTC Sense?

Thanks again

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Cool that took you 5 minutes so it wasn't that hard I see. :)

I have no plans for a light version as it's light enough to my opinion.

It's more important for me to iron the last quircks out. ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
Agreed Probably best!!:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Cool that's solved as well then. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jronimo:
hi,

i don't have my phone near me atm so i cannot confirm.

but i believe that as well in stock 1.43/1.48 (NLD) and in l26v1 as soon as you start the wifi router, it activates wifi connection itself (slider turns on, taskbar shows wifi icon, etc.), which is probably logic. as the wifi router on the phone is 802.11b/g and the wifi connection on the phone supports 802.11N it does have it's logics to connect to a 802.11N wireless connection and connect a external device (e.g. laptop, ipod/iphone) to the wifi router of the phone. (if these do not support 802.11N)

that's just my view of things, correct me if i'm wrong
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jronimo:
no offence intended =) but in the sashimi forum bengalih requests the following:

* While I encourage you to use SASHIMI and spread the word, please do not post copies of this software at other locations. Please link users to this forum for acquiring the latest version and any assistance.

so it wouldnt really be a nice thing to do.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] uglyipl:
I do not know why, but from time to time, date back to year 1.06.2000y.

Does anyone else have this problem ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Januari 16

• L26LEOV2.0_GERMAN (Uploading!)

Fixed sim contact import

Fixed Wifi router

Grtz Leo :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Arda4:
I can't wait to flash your ROMs again! When will the NLD version be ready?

Arda
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Spike™:
busy busy busy!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Indeed mate, more languages will follow one by one. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
L26leov2_german

First mirror with German V2 is up, enjoy. :)

Leo :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chrisbert:
HI

i like test it but

Password wrong 4 German Version.

please can you check this
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
LoL I'm always having issues with passwords. :D

Thanks friend, corrected the password ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] totorinox:
Hi, did you fix the wifi and sim contacts problems with the wwe version?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Not yet, I'm busy on all fronts. :D

German version has fixed wifi and sim contacts import.

Currently I'm preparing the French version, maybe after that I will come back to WWE version ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Januari 16

• L26LEOV2.0_FRENCH (Uploading!)

Fixed sim contact import

Fixed Wifi router

Grtz Leo :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jtonton:
Thanks...

I'm running WWE version since it's release, and your ROM is definitly the best so far for the HD2. ;o)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BadTasteUK:
Sorry if this has been answered before but I can't see reference to it. Does this ROM suffer from the phone canvas issue, where after a while it disappears until you soft reset?

I use the keypad a lot so this is an important point for me.

Other than that I can't wait for you to update the WWE with the two fixes and I'll load it on. It seems you have a great and loyal following!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Nope never seen that my friend. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
L26leov2_french

First mirror with French V2 is up, enjoy. :)

Leo :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jtonton:
Dowloading...

I feel that I will not go to bed early, it's a chance that I can sleep late tomorrow morning :rolleyes:

Thanks Leo
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
You to thanks for your kind words. :)

I start early so time to go to bed. :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BadTasteUK:
That's great news. Thank you for such a fast reply!

I'll install as soon as you upload the WWE version.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jtonton:
Shame on you Leo, you ****ed up my night by releasing your ROM so late in the evening...lolllllllllllll :p

So, after 7H of tests of the FRE ROM, seems everything run perfectly...

After 7H of intensive usage, I still have 65% battery...seems promising...

38% RAM usage after reset.

Only one small issue detected so far, using Footprints, if you want to create a new footprint, and wait that the system have detect GPS localisation before saving it, the sense interface restart without saving the footprint... If you save the footprint before the system find the localisation, you're able to save the footprint, but without GPD data of course... Don't know if this strange behavior is already know on other ROM, and too tired to start searching...

I've test almost all I thought about, no more sms issue, all radio connections are ok, GPS is lightning fast, office 2010 beta work, Tomtom navigator 7 also, bluetooth ok after TT7 BT stack files renaming, wifi router ok...

Have also apply some sense themes, slider modifications, tested exchange sync, social networking connections, music and photo, camera, messenger, Gmail and hotmail accounts...etc etc

Still need to test in call volume, quality, and dialer functionnalities, but this will be for later on...

Will try to complete after having some sleep, and also provide benchmarking data...

Now I go to bed... finally...:o
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Thank you Jtonton for the great review, looking forward to your other tests :)

I'm happy you like the rom.

Grtz Leo :)

Edit; I forgot to mention but I will have a look at the Footprints issue.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] neitin:
Hi Laurentius26, I have never used custom rom on my hd2 before, am starting with your rom, wish me best of luck, thank you for your rom.

Greets from India
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Good luck friend. :)

Don't forget to flash Cotulla and Bepe's HSPL first: ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611433
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sexililstut:
XDA shutdown (skinned by InsecureSpike)

Hi L26

Thnks for the fast ROM, I have been using it for a day and it's great.

By the way, Could you make a cab for the DaveShaw XDAShutdown (skinned by Insecurespike) ? or if there's already a CAB made, Please give me the link so that I can download, thnks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
I need to talk to Spike about that and will come back about it later ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] houms:
great rom

I installed the english and found the wifi router bug. Then I saw you fixed it in french version so migrate to french.

Very nice and seems stable.

In the past I had some freeze and based on your recomendation I flash after removing the SDCard. Now, seems to solved the freeze issue.

Thanks for all.

For the french, just one minor bug:

In settings tab/data settings/ synch time is having two check box but no text and is not usable.

Thanks for all again.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] peter7:
Laurentius - I tested all your english rom`s and now the german one - the only answer is: amazing results !!!

Well done Sir !

May I ask you for one favour - the german keyboard - if I use the "arrow right" the actsync porgramm starts...this always no problem in your english rom´s !

Is there any way to solve this ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] dakkie:
When is the NLD version coming out ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Thanks I will have a look on that. ;)

I have no idea yet need to investigate on that.

I can't give you a exact time but I promise it won't take long. ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jtonton:
Same issue here with settings tab/data settings/ synch time...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] widoo:
Hi Laurentius26,

I'd like to know if it possible for you to share the WiFi Router Fix you applied to the FRE/GER ROM as cab or just explain how to fix it without flashing (reg tweaks, etc...)... if you don't mind of course :)

I'm using it intensively (WWE V2) and so far so good (except wifi router) :

3G/HSDPA allway connected

Exchange Push mail (about 50/70 mails/day) allways on (8h-21h)

Gmail IMAP account, sync every 30 mins

1600 sms with about 10-20 per day

No error with Activesync (had errors with other ROM, all calendar entries randomly disappered etc...)

My location working great

Tomtom 7 working great (however after my last hard reset, it won't re-install ? had to do it manually from a SD Card Backup... strange...)

Facebook contact linking is still slow when you have lot's of SMS (the entiere SMS thread is recreated each time you sync Facebook) but it's a Sense 2.5 issue not a ROM issue

Camera/Video working great

Phone Canvas working great but I miss the "cover fonctionnality" while in call (the gray cover you need to put down to access mute, speaker etc...)

Phone/WiFi/HSDPA/Bluetooth working great

Last SMS Patch (14/01/2010) working great

Battery seems to be draining faster than other ROMs. When ON about 1%/3-4 minutes and while in standby it seems much better than other ROMs. Maybe it's because it's not yet well calibrated

It's a little review for a great ROM. :)

Thanks for it !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Bonkers:
Is anyone having trouble using the SIP client to make VOIP calls?

This V2 is missing the VOIP drivers but I found them elsewhere and installed them but I still can't make VOIP calls.

WM says the Network is unavailable.

It was previously working in v1.1 which included all the drivers but is not working in this version.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
The VOIP drivers are in my friend I'm 100% sure about that.

FRE, GER and WWE they all contain the VOIP drivers and SIP config tool which you can find in the 'Calls' map of start menu.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Mikulec:
I have seen this only on wm6.5.3 roms.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Bonkers:
Hmm ok. I will keep trying to get it working.

It seems different to V1.1 because there is no longer the 'Internet Calling' item in the Today screen settings page under the Items tab.

edit: After a hard reset I still get an error when I try to save my SIP configuration using the SIP Config Tool.

Error Code #: 2147942526
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Sorry my mistake, just came home and verified this it seems I forgot the drivers. :o

Maybe I can make a cab for you stay tuned.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Nope this is not possible I'm affraid. :(

I need to reupload all 3 language roms in order to cook in the VOIP drivers.

I start with WWE and include the Wifi router and SIM contact import fix.

Sync notes will be fixed to this time. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sexililstut:
thnks

Oh thnks a million, also keep in mind that I am waiting for it every second, lol just kidding. I know you have loads of work to do, spend ur time and just tell me when it's ready. again thnks :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] totorinox:
Thnsks for this great rom. It's better than others!

Keep doing roms like this.

Bye
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Matthes42:
Issue with sending mails

has anybody else the issue that you can´t send a new mail or answer to an existing? When I click "new" or "answer" nothing happens, not even an error message :-(

I´m using the German version. What can I do to solve it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Januari 17

• L26LEOV2.1_WWE (Uploading!)

Fixed sim contact import

Fixed Wifi router

Fixed sync notes (fsreplfilt.dll removed)

Added VOIP drivers

Grtz Leo :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] nico1885:
hi,

has anybody else the problem with a little weak signal with wifi n, (german version)

regards Nico
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] peter7:
SAME with me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait for a new version !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
OMG. Another upload! You never stop. Will be flashing this as I use WiFi Router a lot and not been able to use it. Didn't stop me going to another rom though, this is awesome, so fast, stable, just brilliant!

Can you help with a slight issue, not sure whats causing it. I have about 12 albums on my storage card and at the minute it takes about 7 seconds to load the music player. When its loaded, its fine, I flick to landscape mode, fine. Back to portrait, 7 seconds! Can't work it out.

Will try a few things but didn't know if you'd come across it yourself anywhere?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
No Manila patches?

Plane rom without anything installed and the Musicplayer rotates very fast for me.

It takes me 1 a 2 sec to rotate to landscape, back as well.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Well German is next I will check that.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] nicelad_uk:
Nope, no patches at all. All I've done is flash the rom, HR twice, gone to market place to get MS MyPhone. Bring my Messages down. Bring my Contacts down via Active Sync and then installed the HTC Messaging fix.

Confused!

Wonder if its something to do with the SD card format I did before I installed the rom, I used the one in the Tools menu on the phone. Flashed the rom without SD Card installed.

Will try a few things out and come back...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Found that, thanks :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
The only thing you could test is:

Take your sd card out and see how manila music rotates.

Remove your music from SD, and place the albums one by one maybe something there you find the cause.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tkalli:
Downloading v2.1 WWE

:)

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tkalli:
Error in unraring v2.1 WWE file.

Leo is re-uploading the file.

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Seems like something wrong with upload pff it's not my day today.

Reuploading the rom.

Thanks Mr. T
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tkalli:
Downloading new v2.1 WWE

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Thank you Mr. T, upload went ok this time fingers X. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tkalli:
Downloaded and unrared, no problem.

Flashing.

:)

Update: Flashed, no problem.

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kai_:
Getting a 404 error when trying to go to the download page:

http://www.laurentius26.net/index.php/l26leov2hd2.html
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Lars C:
I'm using the V2.0 WWE Rom and everything seems to work ok. Only one minor issue though. I'm connected through Wifi and then i want to check for new mail (hotmail) but instead of using the wifi-signal it connects to my 3G network. This issue only appears when checking for new mail and not, for instance, when updating the weather.

Suggestions??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Timmy_01:
I've got the same error, but not if you go to

http://www.laurentius26.net/
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pack21:
Me too:(

I hope with V2.1 have more fast Wifi...like V1.

Edit: dowloading. :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] totorinox:
Will you upload a French 2.1 version?

Thnx
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
Site is working fine, just downloaded 2.1 WWE
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
It's not strange as I changed the title. ;)

http://www.laurentius26.net/index.php/l26leov2hd21.html
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kimsama:
Hi,

Where can i found the version 2.1 FRE plz?

Thks a lot.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Matthes42:
2 more issues at least in german version

besides the issue that I cannot send mails I found 2 other issues:

1. voice recorder in german version doesn´t work correctly. The 2 softkeys are called "Datenträger i..." which means "disk i..." and "Datei kann ni..." which means File isn´t..."

2. Volume Manager works but the font for system and ring is too small

Beside that i really like the ROM. It´s really fast and stable
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Only one at the time, currently I've uploaded WWE.

It's getting pretty late here but I will see what I can do otherwise tomorrow.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Thank you my friend this info is very important for me. :)

Aldo I tested the German version as well it's impossible to test it all.

I confirm the mail tab, very anoying.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Matthes42:
wait till it is ready and then you will find it at laurentius´ page
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Confirmed and fixed, the mail tab is a bit harder didn't find it yet.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Matthes42:
Anja31 who offers her ROMs in a German Forum has solved this issue in her last ROM. But I don´t know what she did. Maybe you like to ask her for a short advice.

http://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=5265
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tkalli:
All personal data restored to phone.

So Far, no problems to report.

:)

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pack21:
so far, stable and fast web navigation.

Has V2.1 the last HTC SMS update? or we must install.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
You must install yourself I didn't include it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pack21:
Laurentius,

can you tell me the tweats you make on opera 9.7, not the normal like wifi N or cache, but others because like in V2 and now V2.1 when i make some "undo's" "back" on web pages the down bar funcions turn black or just fit the undo key.

I supose is related with some tweat you make, and i will try go back on that, editing on editor resco.

try to make some undo's in a facebook page...and you will see that.

but i have the suspected maybe the cause can be the S2U2 i install, because the issues apears when i install this for the first time and V2, one or other is the cause, i will make some tests tomorow.

On V1 this doesn't apeaned.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tkalli:
There is a cab that will add the 3G to Comm Manager

From *Leo Hints & Tips*

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=254263&d=1260238086

49. Enable 3G Button in Comm Manager

In Comm Manager, you can substitute the Microsoft direct push for Outlook button for a GSM/3G button by installing the cab below. See also tip 60.

60. Add an Eighth Row to Comm Manager for 3G

In tweak 49, if you install the 3G cab you will get a new 3G on/off button in the Comm Manger but it will overwrite the Microsoft Direct Push button. If you don't use that feature then no problem. However if you want to keep it and have 8 rows instead of 7 rows, perform this lengthy procedure in the registry:

Go to HKLM/Software/HTC/CommManager/4 Copy all 3 values you find in this folder. Next go back one folder to HKLM/Software/HTC/CommManager and create a new Key and name it 7. Open this folder (7) and paste the 3 values you copied from folder 4. Next go back one folder again and find the DWord value SupportedFunctions and change it form 7 to 8. Finally install the 3G cab at the end of post 58 and reset. You now have all the original 7 entries plus an 8th one to show 3G. Also you can change the order in which the Wireless Controls are listed by renumbering the key folders.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kayzee:
I cannot access to the download page?

Is that only my problem?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tkalli:
I was just able to access it.

Are you register?

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kayzee:
I registered...and signed in...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
You can find the download location here if you registered.

http://www.laurentius26.net/index.php/l26leov2hd21.html

Grtz Leo :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kayzee:
thanks!!!!:D

and the link posted on your website is missing "1" before .html
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
No nothing is missing you only need to scroll down ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Timmy_01:
Your Login is OK now!

Regards,

Timmy
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kayzee:
oh?thanks!!!

but dont know why I cannot access any website when using Opera?

But IE can...

any idea?

thanks so much!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ftd01:
registered

i registered but can't login can you help me

thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] koong32:
i just flash it , it is lighting fast as usaul , thank you for your work ,

one question; GpsMod Driver is version 1.51?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Timmy_01:
I opened the door. Come in!!! :)

Regards, Timmy
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Yeah it's 1.51. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] totorinox:
Hi! Do you know if you'll release French 2.1 today?

If no, i'll take the wwe version.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Not today for sure, tomorrow. ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] totorinox:
Ok; i took the wwe version.

Bye
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tkalli:
More languages will be coming soon.

Leo is busy working on them.

:)

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Lamvip379:
thank ....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
• L26LEOV2.1_FRE (Uploading!)

Added Mp3 trimmer back in

Fixed start menu icon Multimedia

Downgraded packages to get more stability

settings tab/data settings/ synch time... fixed

Footprints fixed

Volume menu fixed

Voice recorder fixed

Fixed sync notes (fsreplfilt.dll removed)

Added VOIP drivers

Grtz Leo :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kimsama:
Thx a lot Laurentius !

i wait that :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] precsmo:
Finally!!!! Finally!!!! I've settled v2.1 rom, it has everything working and I can really feel it speedy! Thank you so much, I'm so happy now!:D:D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
V2.1 French first mirror is online now :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kimsama:
You roxx !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] saveferris:
Wondering if anyone else is having issues answering a 2nd call when already on a call. My phone canvas freezes and is unable to answer the 2nd incoming call.

Laurentius If you're not flat out could you please check this out.

Thanks mate.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pack21:
I solve my problems with the undo key freeze on opera 9.7, instaling this cab...whats change i don't know, but it works and no more black down bar after multiple undo's

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5146378&postcount=209
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Belzebuth.:
Thank you Laurentius26...;)

I'm DL the FRE version now and flash it tonight...:D

Nog eens, hatelijk bedankt voor deze versie...;)

Thank you, one more time, for this version...:p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] VizagDude:
I had a smilar problem. But I thought it was due to the MS MyPhone running in the background.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Laurentius26:
I wanted to publish the German version of V2.1 to today but I'm still stuck with the mail open/reply people reported earlier.