yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BobbyManifesto:
thanks 4 the info on that one. works like a charm :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ScooterG:
Make sure that within the YouTube app, you do not have high quality selected under the performance section.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] BeEasy:
Thank you for this wonderfull ROM

Hi BOB,

First ... thank you for your hard work :))

I'm trying your rom from last two days ... and till now I feel comfortable with it : fast , fast and reliable....

Maybe one of the fastest I tried, I'm usually a 2.1 manilla user the 2.5 it was so slow, your ROM is the first 2.5 that stay on my phone more than few hour ...

It is really great a great ROM....

During use here are the few small things I noticed (hope it will help) :

3G is sometimes very slow when starting (or maybe the new Opera ???)

GPS is sometimes really takes a very long time to start.

While browsing album sometime when going fast I loose the top bar it get replaced by some part of photo icon (then have to go to home move to landscape to get it back)

the communication mgr interface is missing the 3G icon ...

The data connection setup was manual ...

sometimes the windows lock screen don't start (but still you have an haptic response)

inside the dialer : the virtual kbd button is overlapping the "all ppl" & "menu" button.

I miss the calendard inside the dialer....

Here is what I found till now I hope it will help ....

AND AGAIN :::::: it is one of the best ROM (for sure the best manilla 2.5) I tried till now

Thank you very much for this ....

Best regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rhoneil:
Is there a way to change the 'delete' button in email? to something more productive (and less destructive if i click too fast) like 'new mail?'
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
Welcome

Hi b16b,

welcome, after a long time of absence on my device, now with Sense 2.5 and more, I'll flash to try your last work :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shorty083:
Been using valkyrie roms only for the last 2 months and wanted to try something

different again so I flashed this rom a couple of hours ago.

I have to say i'm impressed by the speed and smoothness.

No hang ups or bugs so far.

Will try it out for a couple of days, thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
to change Explores buton to Phone (default wm6.5.3)

how can I change the button on the bottom bar from Explorer to Phone command?

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RAYARTS:
Still no sound YouTube and TomTom

I still have no sound on youtube and TomTom voice messages. I checked Video quality setting as well as you suggested.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
you must have install something and you broke it... rhodium dialer or htc message or something else.. right?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Looking the same Soft key remap ..

Wonderful light/fast ROM. Kudos b16b!! Moved from a NRG cutting edge ROM. Put in everything I wanted, and there is still a lot of free RAM. Battery drains too quickly, so flashed the AT&T Stock Radio. Will monitor that over the next few days.. Great Job!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
3 post back #266
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
i think the best way is:

flash att radio and battery driver from att rom

check if i have it on 2nd post otherwise go to rhodium aplication thread and search for drivers..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Thanks for your suggestion... Do you mean the "rilphone" when u say battery driver? I thought the "rilphone" did not take effect unless it was cooked into the rom..

Got the Radio from the Radio thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=549939

There is a link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3354857#post3354857 in the Radio thread where Da_G mentions a "Rilphone.dll" will not take effect unless a patched nk.exe is used in the ROM build. B16B, does ur ROM have a patched nk.exe?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
I found

HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila

In "HomeLSKPath" set the path of the application.... (to phone dial is \Windows\cprog.exe)

In "HomeLSKText" sset the Text you want on the button... (for example Phone)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
Softreset program

I do not like the application installed to perform the soft reset, it is too long to do, there are different solution with application monocommand and very fast ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
SMS client Leo 2.02 installed

To open a sms layout page from a contact card we must add a sms client (htc), in this rom it doesn't cut audio in youtube client ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
WOW, this ROM is very very fast.

I did encounter some problems though.

After flashing, I hard reset again, but when I go into the start menu and scroll, everything gets VERY VERY distorted.

I thought there was no hope after hard resetting 3 times, but after I did a regular soft reset, everything looked normal again. However, the whole bottom taskbar went back to the original MANILA one.

Another problem I have noticed is that the "TIME ZONE" pops up every restart.

Is there any way to fix this? Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
Thanks for this as well :) Any chance of changing the RIGHT "menu" button?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] truffle1234:
i cant seem to sync.........changed 3 cables... tried all the diffrent settings as well... i am on windows 7 and not seem to work it tries to sync forever..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
Just had the same problem, but eventually works lol :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wildfxp:
I found the Manila folder in LOCAL USER, but I do not see the Path/Text files
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] truffle1234:
how long is evantually... i am trying for 1 hour now...

i am going back to energy rom 31st dec 2009... got to go for meeting... last ditch effort i am reloading the rom... hardrest, and soft reset all do not work.... give up...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mrjetking:
Working fine on Vista and XP
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] truffle1234:
F#@$% my notebook and PC both are on win7 and some rom has issue with sync.... i will be going back to energy rom as it works for me at least..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mrjetking:
Have you checked for updates to the Mobile Device Manager on the Microsoft site?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gandhi70:
can someone tell me, how i can disable the activesync autostart after reboot?

removing poutlook.exe from autostart did not do the trick.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
until now what ever i try on win7 working great

set opera 10 to turbo mode is a little bit faster 9.7 is faster but 10 is better for me ans easiest to use

we waiting for the latest version...

i have more than 500 downloads + mirrors everyone must br flash this rom

thank you all
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] truffle1234:
i will uninstall the mobile device ctr and re install and hope that will solve my issue.... however energy 208011 31st dec 2009 rom as well did not sync for me so i a m back to 28014 built 17th dec rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] guamhtc:
Can't seem to figure out how to remove clock on the task bar...installed cab but no effect whatsoever. Was I supposed to do something to the registry. I followed the direction and went to the:

[HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell]

"ShowTitleBarClock"=dword:0

"TBOpt"=dword:0

but I couldn't find the "TBOpt"=dword:0"...so if anyone can walk me through what I'm doing wrong, I'd appreciate it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
If you add a contact to one of 3 icons in home tab of manila, with associate a picture (not avatar), after a soft reset, it doesn't appear..

It is was a problem in other rom but now solved...

It could be interesting the fix to add in this rom :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Freddy2Fred:
What happend to the task manager??? I dont like to go to settings all the time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Freddy2Fred:
and what happend to file explore???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] shorty083:
Small question, I'm using the classic windows mobile lockscreen,

in which you'd normally have to tab unlock twice, once softkey and once in middle of the screen, but with this rom

I only have to tab (softkey) unlock once or just press the 'answer call' or 'start menu' hard button to unlock completely.

This makes it very easy for it to unlock in my bag and start randomly calling people.

Is there a registry setting which I need to change to get it to work like it's always done.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RAYARTS:
Need standard dialer back

Hi there, which dialer should I install after uninstalling Leo Phone Canvas Enhancement Cab (from page 2) ? I lost sound after installing the Leo Phone Canvas Enhancement from page 2.

After uninstalling Leo Dialer I lost the numeric pad when dialing!

Any help appreciated. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Novek:
Hi

If you're open to another keylocker the Slide 2 unlock 2 (just search google s2u2, and enter the first (can't post links I see)) is pretty fast, free and simple, at the same time it's nice looking (looks like the one on iPhone).

I haven't noticed anything wrong with my native keylock, but I allways swithc to S2U2 =)

GL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Novek:
Total Commander is far better than the native File Explorer, which btw seems to have been deleted in this ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
the task manager is the same top right corner just tap there...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
if you still want the file explorer install it you will found it on 2nd post
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
bump. hoping to catch your eye again b16b..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RAYARTS:
Please point me to right Dialer Cab

The Dialer Cab shown on page 2 disables sound on YouTube.

Uninstalling the Dialer leaves the ROM with no keypad when you want to make a phone call.

Please assist me reinstalling the right Dialer Cab.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gandhi70:
i installed the dialer from page 2 and youtube is working fine for me. :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Gandhi70:
the rom is working nice so far. fast and stable.

but battery life is way down compared to my previous rom (fusion 6.0).

with ahtineos i get about 4 hours of use whereas with fusion i got about 6 hours.

i will try the radio you recommend in the second post to find out if it makes a difference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
I confirm, battery life could be much better, but it's not bad. I think it might be due to the wm build still in development!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
after one day..

very good work this rom,

stable and fast, battery duration is normal, if you have tried different rom with build 28011 or 23518.

To find some modifications for the next release I suggest:

# Add Advanced Config Tool, Google Maps.

# Add subfolders in Start Menu to reduce the number of applications visible, for example:

Start\

Tools (Total commander, MP3Trimmer, Advanced config Tools 3.3, PIM backup...)

Multimedia (Radio, Recorder, Streaming, Youtube...)

Internet (Opera, Facebook, RSS...)

GPS (QuickGPS, Google Maps...)

# restore left softkey in home tab with Phone instead Explorer

# traditional Manila bottom band (colored)

# Different SoftReset with this only function, faster...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
here you go m8

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4470221&postcount=1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
Thanks for the link. You already have a 1% battery driver in the ROM. Do u want me to replace that with the Chainfire 1% driver?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
So, is there any particular reason when installing the leo client, the sound breaks in youtube or has it been narrowed down at all? Im only asking as I like using the leo sms client (especially retaining the ability to make call from contact card) and with this new patch http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5363035#post5363035, the client is MUCH better. Ive been testing it for a few hrs now and havent had much of a problem out of it....just no sound in youtube:D

edit**By the way, when uninstalling the leo client, it appears that now the association to htc messaging and the winmo messaging gets screwed up. If I go to start menu and hit text or use titanium and tap text messaging, it says, "The file (some weird square symbol) can not be opened, please try...." And if tap on a text while in manila, it takes me to text screen, but its all blacked out. Anyway to reactive the way messaging was without hard reset?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jlavoie:
if you reinstall the leo htc messaging client you can get youtube sound to work by modifying HKLM\Software\HTC\YouTube\EnableMDP set to "0"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
GOSH DANG JLAVOIE!! How do you know all this sh**:D You've probably saved me at least two hard resets in the last couple mths. Guess this will keep me committed to using the leo sms client as I cant go back for now:D At least that will give me more time to see how the patch causes the client to react once messages starting piling up from multiple contacts. Ive already noticed the diff when youre in the thread of a contact with lots of messages. Thanks as always and maybe you should compile like a list of all the regedits youve found that fix stuff or find helpful:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jlavoie:
if you have the problem with the send button being on the bottom bar and not above the attachment icon you can modify HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\LSK_Send_Msg set to "0".

with the new client patch i notice the messages do not load one at a time but rather all at once. this is definitely a welcome update from htc. i think it will load even faster if it gets cooked in.

glad i could save you from a hard reset.

edit: you can also change max recipients by modify HKLM\Software\Jataayu\Messaging\MaxRecipients change to what ever.

edit2: you can also set to permanently delete instead of move to deleted messages by modify HKLM\Software\Jataayu\Messaging\DeleteMessagePermanently set to "1"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
@jlavoie. Oh, I remember the first one as I always go back to it in agent_47's thread when I cant remember it after a flash:D The other are certainly welcome, especially the max recipients.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jlavoie:
you can also disable auto rotation of contact card message tab by modify HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\People_MessageGSensor set to "0"

and htc message client (all messages) modify HKLM\Software\Jataayu\Messaging\GSensor set to "0"

you must also open GConfig and remove "messaging_client" from list (long hold and remove).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
Actually, for some reason, the leo sms client cabs I installed didnt cause the autorotation by default. But, did notice how annoying it was when it did do that until it stopped doing it:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
Hi,

it could be very useful to have a list of registry editing we can perform...

I think it is a big work, but a dream we ask :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
Opera 10

I do not like Opera10, I think a prototype, not without bugs, everyday I need to soft reset the device during navigation...

I'm using Skyfire.

I suggest Opera 9.7 in the next release of this ROM.

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
Hey b16b, have you thought about CFC compressing manila? Ive ran a few roms with it compressed and seems to make a noticeable difference. Although, yours is fast even thought its not CFC compressed:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
Im new here on sense 2.5 i have cfc only 2.1

on 2.1 is not big diference or my sense is already quick. hehehehe
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rwertz14:
Kwill, how did you get the patch to install, it keeps telling me I insufficient permissions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jlavoie:
did you install a leo messaging client before trying the update? if so what do you have for HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Hotfix\Messaging_Client_Versi on? if you have this key, try setting it to 20091119-00 and try again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rwertz14:
I have the Leo 2.02 Messaging Client installed and that key is not there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jlavoie:
is this the cab you tried to use? http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7JBRZJZU
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rwertz14:
That is the one. I almost completes the install but then errors out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
It's that your sense is already fast!! hehe, just like I said it is:D

And jlavoie is right, that should get it done. Ive managed to install leo client 2.02, install the patch. Then uninstall 2.02 client, change the regedit mentioned above, then install leo client 1.61 and the patch again. Both times it worked fine. I installed 1.61 because I thought it might not break my youtube sound, which jlavoie helped me sort that out:D I'm still using the 1.61 as I didnt want to go through the whole process again. I really dont see the diff between the 2.02 client and 1.61 client anyways. And figured it'd be better to use 1.61 roms and technically the patch says its only for foms 1.66 and below.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rwertz14:
Redownloaded the file and it installed. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Novek:
A few things that would make this ROM superior (even better) is:

* Make the start menu 4 or 5 rows

* Manage the start menu items into folders

* Pre-install Registry Editor, WIFI monster, noData, quick menu, advanced configuration, change screen (or other automatic rotator), safe inbox extender, pocket RAR.

* Change left softkey to e.g. "Smaberg TP2 actionscreen" (like in the newest NRG ROM)

* Maybe add S2U2 as it's a nice looking, light weight keylock =)

All this can be done afterwards, but it's a thought =)

At least some of the tools, and the action screen would be nice :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
I do not like ROM with a lot of applications installed, because not all are favorite by all user, so, I agree with:

* Make the start menu 4 or 5 rows

* Manage the start menu items into folders

I a past post I listed my suggestions:

To find some modifications for the next release I suggest:

# Add Advanced Config Tool, Google Maps.

# Add subfolders in Start Menu to reduce the number of applications visible, for example:

Start\

Tools (Total commander, MP3Trimmer, Advanced config Tools 3.3, PIM backup...)

Multimedia (Radio, Recorder, Streaming, Youtube...)

Internet (Opera, Facebook, RSS...)

GPS (QuickGPS, Google Maps...)

# restore left softkey in home tab with Phone instead Explorer

# traditional Manila bottom band (colored)

# Different SoftReset with this only function, faster...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwill:
Yeah, lite like it is now is perfect actually as none of the stuff mentioned above do I use (nodata, etc.) and as you said, easily installable and no faster whether cooked in or not. The only thing I would say missing from a stock rom is the widgets, which are used by many, but dont work right unless cooked in. fcasoli is about spot on with the ONLY FEW improvements that could be made. Mainly just organizational stuff.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
A light ROM is the biggest attraction to me. 4 or 5 row start menu plus extra folders to organize is the best start.

also dont cook in a Radio. A generic "rilphone" that will work with most radios is also good..

Please continue to keep it light and fast..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dineshh:
Best

One of the best 6.5.X ROm on the TP2 forum. I loved it. Used Outlook exchange mail, BB Connect mail, IM Nimbuzz, WMP, Wifi Internet for the First time looks good on Opera 10, GoNews RSS reader, Max Manila mod v 2.8 also used.

Excellent Work bro, keep it up, been using it for a week now, and mind it thats lot of days for a impulsive flasher like me.

Just sometimes dialer no.pad didn't show up, required a reboot, which may be because of extensive RAM usage.

I fail to understand why people demean/ underrate Win mobiles, whereas it the only Mobile OS which can be customized to any extent. The Symbions, Androids etc don't even have 25% of functionality.

And then Software experts like you make them worth every penny/ Ruppee.

:o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Novek:
Sure, I can see what you mean. I totally agree with you at most of your points, but the left softkey could get a better shortcut than phone (explorer is better), which you can load with the left hardkey. I just thought the fast access to an actionscreen where you can go directly to new sms, new email etc. would come more handy.

Also googlemaps isn't that much needed for all to install, and will also take up ~2MB of the internal memory instead of installing it on the storage card afterwards.

But hey, b16b is the chef :)

cheers mates!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
thanks for your great words

can you post a photo with your home tab wih max manila?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dineshh:
Sure

Sure Why Not?

Pix is attached:o
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Novek:
Which theme are you using on top of Max? :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
I quote, I'll try as soon, but the theme is very important for the final result.

How can I replace standard colored bottom bar in Sense 2.5?

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fcasoli:
The best one

My rating, after using for one month and more different solution (23517, 23518, 28011, 28014) of Valkyrie Firestorm, EnergyROM and Athine, all with Sense 2.5, is:

Athine 8.5 (I would like my suggestion to gain 1 point)

Firestorm 7.5 (fast but big problems with ActiveSync, dialer and rings, some with email client and SMS, good park of applications.. soft reset too often)

EnergyROM 7.5 (stable and good list of applications, problem with top bar to visualize audio status, dialer, and sms client...)

Range 0-10 points

Please replace Opera10 with 9.7 in the next one ;)

My compliments to b16b :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] :
forgive my ignorance, but apart the digital/analog clock and more shortcuts, what does max manila do?? does it eat much ram?? your homescreen looks really good, wow!!

thank you!:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Baronic:
your rom's task manager for Rhodium is conflicting with FPSECE (playstation emulator for windows mobile) is there a way to remove the X1 task manager or at least make sure it doesnt start up