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[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
I personally dont have a problem with people liking their respective phones. If you like the iPhone thats great. If you like the HD2, thats fine. If you like the G1, thats great too. Hell, if you like the Motorola DynaTAC 8000X then thats just peachy.

What really pisses me off is when you try to use incorrect logic, flawed tests, and biased opinions to try and prove to me that the 3g signal in a Motorola DynaTAC 8000X is better than that of the HD2 (lets just say). This is what Engadget and many other reviewers have done, who after all this bull**** with biased opinions and flawed data are no longer considered reviewers in my opinion.

And it also pisses me off that because most people are ignorant, they take these reviewers words as truth and instead of forming there own decision, testing or doing more research already have a bad taste in their mouth. People should be like the recent TechCrunch article and and realize that just because you are not used to it and that it is different from the norm DOES NOT MAKE IT FLAWED, WRONG OR BROKEN!!!! IT JUST MAKES IT DIFFERENT WHETHER THAT BE FOR GOOD OR BAD IS FOR THE USER TO DECIDE!!!
[Nexus One General] hassan:
CrApple must be paying them good money for messing things up with N1 launch. I really hate these fan boy srories poping up every day. I've got HD2 Bold2 and expecting N1 on monday. Every device has its own strength and weakness.

I think iToy user think they have best device and it will be forever. They have been deceived by Apple and whore member of on line media. New hardware of iToy can't be jailbreak any more, game over for now.
[Nexus One General] RueTheDay:
This is preposterous. First the web browser speed test between iPhone, Droid, and N1 where the iPhone had clearly visited the page before and was just loading from cache and now this? What a complete joke.
[Nexus One General] FabianNL:
Please stop bashing Engadget for nothing...

Engadget post doesn't say anything about the performance from the iPhone or the Nexus One. Engadget just posted an article from MOTO, without making any conclusions. And, if you read the post at MOTO, then you will know that the Nexus One preformed very good (the same as your picture shows) if you press 'medium' on your touchscreen.

So, please, stop bashing Engadget and read the posts good en entirely!
[Nexus One General] markimar:
Wtf. Don't these people have anything better to do than doodling lines? Why are they spending countless hours to rip a phone?
[Nexus One General] Crowe T. Robot:
You can't say that engadget hasn't exhibited a clear bias. Their browser test was clearly rigged. That generated a lot of bad press. Almost every aspect of their review focuses on the tiny contrivances they found instead of anything positive. Literally, the phone is twice as fast (almost) as any of the other smart phones out there, yet they could hardly find even a single good thing to say about it.

Everything was written from a "the iphone has been doing it better for years now" perspective.
[Nexus One General] dills84:
I tried this myself as well, and my lines came out pin straight even moving very slowly. Engadget is really a bunch of apple fanboys, even from their initial review of the Nexus.

Ive had my girlfriends Iphone 3Gs and my Nexus side by side, and in all aspects I'd rather use the nexus. :)
[Nexus One General] FabianNL:
The browser test was indeed very poor and totally useless because they only use one website, Engadget.com, instead of multiple websites like it use to be. And yes, I have seen better reviews then this review... But, to say that all the articles on Engadget are 'crap' because they are iPhone fanboys is a little overdone.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
No its precisely what it is..crap.

Its liek asking a redskins fan to break down Dallas Cowboy performances.

These guys clearly have an agenda which means the product is irrelevant. Once that happens things become tainted and "crap" is the label most appropriate.
[Nexus One General] tat2guy:
The N1 is becoming the most hated phone to ever come out. It's amazing at how tech sites and apple fans are trying to make this phone look bad. Just admit it, you really do want one. We all know you do.

Got my N1 2010/01/07

Absolutely love it.
[Nexus One General] mer6:
My N1 brings all the boys to the yard,

And their like

It's better than yours,

Damn right it's better than yours,

I can teach you,

But I have to charge
[Nexus One General] mark925:
I've come to the conclusion that these sites only pick up and use an Android phone when they only need to review it. I don't think there's a single person at Engadget or BGR that actually has an Android handset that they use as their main phone for day to day use. In fact, I'd be surprised if they spent more than a half hour with an Android phone before reviewing it.

I've also seen it mentioned that one of the faults of Android is that the base is "fractured" (aka the OS is on too many different handsets). I wish the idiots would realize that if Apple's OS was on multiple handsets it would be the SAME THING.

The way these sites are literally reaching and stretching to find anything to smear this handset reminds me of the Republican party in the months before the last Presidental Election where they would pretty much talk out of their ass and say anything to try and make the other side look bad.
[Nexus One General] cheetah2k:
Goodness me. Are you on the apple "cash for comments" band wagon as well? Stop your posting now before you dig yourself an even bigger hole!

I hate to admit it if Engadget choose to post or re-post an article from another site without checking their sources first hand, then they are just as culpable (liable) to negative feedback as the originator of the article.

One thing I have learnt about reporting - check your sources first before calling the sheep black. :mad:

I hope Google chooses to sue Engadget for stirring up the bad press. Thats got to be worth a few Million $$ in lost income - oops did I just put engadget out of business?? :D

************

I currently have the iphone 3GS, HD2 and just received my N1 30min ago (thankyou fedex!). All are great phones, but after drawing the straight line grid on all three, the iphone was the worst, not to mention, its only got a low res screen.. Now thats not bad press.. Thats friggin reality folks.
[Nexus One General] jamesyb0i:
Oh my God... If that's true and the iPhone was loading from the cache then it's just ridiculous, we need a voice
[Nexus One General] predator290:
So i called tmobile to get the unlock code for the mytouch 3g, as i'm getting my nexus one on monday. I just started asking questions about it and the rep told me somthing interesting. He said the cheapest way to go for the nexus one is to order it through tmobile on a brand new line. Then he said when u get your phone call them and they will just add it to your existing plan(mine being a family plan). Then i would just be paying for a 3rd line for a few months(which is like 10 bucks more a month or somthing like that) and then can just cancel that line. yes you are paying for an unsused line but its a whole lot cheaper than buying the phone for $529. Any thoughts? has anyone done this?

Even if u kept a 3rd line on your account for 2 years thats only 120 more.thats 299 for the phone. still cheaper than 529.
[Nexus One General] Orangeandblue302:
im pretty sure that if you just wait til the 14 days are up and cancel, pay the ETF for that line it would work.
[Nexus One General] predator290:
I read earlier that if u did that they would still make u pay full for the phone. or am i wrong here?
[Nexus One General] Orangeandblue302:
actually you are right. you probably do have to let it ride for a few months.
[Nexus One General] mesajoejoe:
I thought you werent allowd to get it for $179 and add the line to an existing plan. Dont you need to have it as a Even More plan. I guess I dont quite understand how you would get around it?
[Nexus One General] Orangeandblue302:
after reading that line on my contract it says:

"for contracts of one year or more, I may cancel my service without paying a termination fee if I return all phones I acquired with my activation within 14 days from my activation"

hmm not sure but it seems that if you pay ETF you get to keep your phone, correct?
[Nexus One General] predator290:
well its just what the tmobile guy told me that he tells everyone. He said u keep the plan until the phone comes in the mail. Then you call them and they can just add the line to your existing plan. As in my case i'm already on a family plan. so i only pay 10 bucks for a 3rd line instead of the 80 bucks of the even more.
[Nexus One General] gimiento:
Sounds like there might be an opening there to save some money. I guess this is why Verizon raised their ETF to 350 on smartphones (though is being questioned by FCC).
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Highly doubt that works.

You can't merge accounts like that...

And I bet they'll make you keep the $80 plan no matter what, not $10 / month
[Nexus One General] resinous:
talked to a tmobile rep and this definitely does not work, nice try though :cool: btw you forgot to mention the 35$ activation fee.
[Nexus One General] kot_as_kot:
It may theoretically work if you give up not the line you've just purchased, but the older one that you had in your family for years. So you may need a line you had for years and it should be available for immediate termination (i.e. the previous 2 years contract has expired).

Keep us informed.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
Data is required for all of the 2 years, you CAN'T have it removed.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
The ABSOLUTE cheapest option ever is getting the phone unlocked + Even More Plus at $59.99, then remove the unlimited texting for a total of $49.99 / month, and no contract whatsoever. (Use Google Voice for free unlimited texting.)

$49.99 month vs the subsidized (and forced) phone plan of $79.99 a month is $30 per month saved. $30 * 24 months = $720 saved, MUCH more than the cost of the phone itself.
[Nexus One General] swetland:
I had no idea you could cancel the text messaging part of the plan... good to know. Any idea how much it then costs should I accidentally send or receive an SMS?
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
If you really wanted to play it safe and use only Google Voice without the slightest possibility of ever getting charged for a text, T-Mobile actually offers a very easy to activate text messaging block. Just log into the website -> Manage -> Plans and Services -> Add Services:

More info at: http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm23533.xml

Anyway, here's the standard messaging rates:

Domestic rates for text, picture, video, and instant messaging

$0.20 per message sent or received. This applies to messages you send to or receive from domestic numbers while you are in the U.S., Canada, or Puerto Rico. This rate also applies to international messages sent or received while you are in the U.S and Puerto Rico. If you have a T-Mobile messaging bundle or a plan that includes messaging, messages received from international numbers are deducted from the allotted number of messages included in your bundle or plan.​
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
The cheapest plan is $54.99, not $49.99.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
You should read the entirety of a post before responding.
[Nexus One General] Orangeandblue302:
i haave herd of people doing the google voice trick but how the eff do you get a goggle voice number? I applied for one awhile ago and didnt get a response.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
Really?

Google Voice reqiures use of data, so how did you plan on using it? Standalone data is $25, not $20
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
That package is a BUNDLE, you CANNOT just remove texting and expect data to still be $20. You've got it all backwards. DATA and VOICE is a minimum $54.99
[Nexus One General] aldo37:
Can someone clarify - there seems to be two options.

The 59.99 Even More + with text and web for 59.99. Apparently you can remove the text messaging to make it 49.99. (Is this legit - has someone done this?)

The question is - is this a legit plan in T-mobile's eyes with regards to data and Android phones? Or do you have to have the Android data plan? Will Tmo begin scanning the nexus IMEI and telling people they need Android data?

Right now I've got the Even More + at 29/month and I've added the Android data plan at $25 for $55/month. I've got the 15% AAA discount so it comes out to around $50/month, but with the official Android data plan, so I don't think there'd be any issues. At least this way I am "official" and wouldn't really have to worry about whether my plan is valid with an Android device or not.
[Nexus One General] Orangeandblue302:
how did you manage to get your discount applies to and even more plus plan? I tried and tried and tried some more but they wouldnt do it.
[Nexus One General] dills84:
After getting the nexus for 180$, if you cancel your contract within 24 months google will come after you for the subsidized cost of the phone (being around 350$) because tmobile will retract their subsidized price.

This is all in the "Terms of sale" on www.google.com/phone
[Nexus One General] RueTheDay:
Couple of points:

1. This is only true if you're not currently under contract. Most people that are going to get an N1 are currently in a two year contract with a carrier that has *SOME* amount of time left in it before expiration.

2. If you want unlimited voice minutes/data/texts under T-Mobile, it's going to cost you $80/month with or without a contract. I currently am halfway through my two year contract (Unlimited Loyalty Plan) with my G1. If I switch to the current EM+ Unlimited, it costs me the same each month, no contract, but also no subsidized phone.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Actually, you CAN switch to Even More Plus regardless of your contract. Yes, you still have to fulfill your remaining contract, *BUT*, you are paying the new monthly price. That is the difference.

(You can verify this by logging into T-Mobile -> Change Plans. It lists very clearly that you still have to fulfill your remaining contract, but you

ARE

in fact switching plans.)

(And you can waive the $35 switching fee if you are a AAA member - http://ww1.aaa.com/scripts/WebObjec...on=aaa&club=004&page=AUTOMOTIVE113&kw=tmobile .)

Who said anything about unlimited voice? ;) The $59.99 is for 500 minutes. And since this topic is strictly about being inexpensive, the $59.99 plan is *THE* plan to choose (that has unlimited data, for obvious reasons).
[Nexus One General] Bronk93:
So I decided to call tmo myself today and find out whats going on and this is what I found out. I currently have a my faves plan with 2 lines, under contract until october of this year. The rep told me the cheapest way to go is to get the N1 on an brand new account with the contract. Then I would do a "change of responsibily" on the line that has my g1 on it, so that way I dont have to pay a cancellation fee.

Once that is done the remaining line, which is my gf's, switch that to an even more+ plan. So I guess it would be like 59.99 x2, which is about what I'm paying now for my 2 lines of my faves, with 400 shared minutes. I dont see a downside to that, really.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Wrong. Google will only take their $350 if you downgrade or cancel your T-mobile plan within 120 days.... that's 4 months.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I just called T-Mobile. This is correct.

$30 - 500 Minutes

$25 - Unlimited Data

So essentially $54.99 without texts or $59.99 for unlimited texts. Is unlimited texts worth $60/year? Your call.

And damn, I forgot to ask the service rep, but the AAA discount can NOT be applied to Even More Plus plans, correct?
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Even More Plus isn't eligible for any discounts... only Even More.
[Nexus One General] Orangeandblue302:
I can verify that discounts dont work for the Even More Plus plans :-(. They did, however, wave my activation fee which was nice of them.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Godson1227:
I just bought a non working dummy MT3G phone as a prank on my gf and it cost $13 it was a "throw away" gift and I wanted a black MT3G so I'm wondering can I use the dummy casing as a replacement ??? Its brand new. I appreciate all responses
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] nacron:
more than likely no, usually the dummy phones are not made from original phone parts
[myTouch 3G, Magic Accessories] Godson1227:
Oh ok thanks well it should make for a good prank on my gf and really cool toy phone for my 2 yr old neice lol
[G1 General] ttc_smokee:
I created a rom for myself that i've been using for a few weeks now.

Its based off dwang 1.17.1 with no ramhack using kernel from cyanogen 4.1.12.1

Redone custom_init for G1 only!

A2sd automatic - ext 2 through 4 supported

/system/sd/userinit.sh support

No ramhack but stll fast

Black statusbar

Eclair themed STOCK launcher.apk (no advanced launcher)

Edited droid bootscreen from android 2.0

Added nano support so you can edit scripts on the fly

Working compcache 0.6, rzscontrol gives all 0's for stats but it works

Edited STOCK phone and contact .apk with some eclair theming

Muititouch

Eclair calculator, alarm clock too (but it doesn't ring alarm when set so may go back to stock)

Other stuff too can't remember

Its pretty fast for me I keep cpu constant at 384 mhz.

Like I said I made this rom for myself and have been using and tweaking for a few weeks now. I wasn't going to even post it but I thought maybe someone would like it.

Its G1 (HTC Dream) ONLY I removed anything mt3g related cuz I own a G1.

I'll include screenshots if yall want but it'll be later one cause I'm not near my computer at the moment. But if i dont get any interest in the rom i wont even waste my time.

I dont want to be just another rom in the development section so i wanted to see if there would even be an interest in the rom first. So respond and let me know what you people think.
[G1 General] tyweezy:
i would like to try it
[G1 General] Karolis:
Sure, why not. Throw it at us and let's see if it's going to stick ;)
[G1 General] bleulady82:
Absolutly

If you are still working this ROM, I would like to give it a go... I'm happy ith the Dwang roms and would like a much updated one
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sintoo:
Hi,

Is there an app that when I run it, with an argument, then it will shut down the app with the name given by the argument ?

I think this kind of app is very useful.

For example, I want to Automatically Start then Stop a GPS program for a given time every day.

A program that can Turn on then turn off would be great but a Turn-off only would be fine as well.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] darfri:
Try SKSchema or Mortscript
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sintoo:
Thank you for the info, Darfri.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
Hey im a noob on this g1 thing {i just got it 2daii } i search n search n learn somethings I just need help with more.

1. What is Radio ?

2. Whats the best Rom n do i need to activated Again [ I ask cuz i have no data plan ]

Sorry for My Noob Question
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
Radio is the thing that let's you listen to music in the car...

I would try one that works, like cyanogen

Yes you will have to reactivate, but most let you skip or use wifi
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Know-Fear:
WTF is a NOOD?????
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
Darn you beat me to it

edit: looked on google images, not acceptable to post here
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
What the hell is a nood?

Is that what kids are calling it now,bunch of muppets i say.

Radio allows roms like cyan aka third-party to be installed. You really shouldnt be to concerned with what those do though its not important for you.:p
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
Wtf Lol So i Saw this { THis Radio Required:

Any (Recommend Latest for Dream/G1 - 2.22.19_26I - See POST #2 for Download Link) } N Can cyanogen LEt me skip or use Wifi to reactivate
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
Sorry It Wass Noob LOl
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
That should only be needed on the bigger, prettier roms (hero, blur,etc.)

Cyan does yes
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
OK IS there A Way that I Dont have to Downgrade from 1.6 to RC29 to root the phone ? bcuz if i do that i have to activate the phone n i dont have data plan
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Know-Fear:
LUUURRRRRN 2 REEEEED!!!!!

Get ur knowledge on. There is info all over on how to activate over wifi.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
Leeeeeaaaaaarrrrrrnnnnnn to sppppeeeeeellllll
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HAHucant:
luuurrrrrn 2 swallllow
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
Leeeeaaaarrrrrrnnnnnn to ggggeeeeeeettttttt ssssooooommmmmmeeeee
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
Lmaoooooooooooooooooo

Nah I read. About using with the adb shiit I try to do it n I couldn't so I have to pay 15 dollars I no I no I got jipped lol n I'm not paying no more 15 dollars so I'm just gonna stay with the tmobile firmware if there no wey to root with 1.6
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
$15 for what
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
For I phone store did the activation thing for me I had to pay 15 dollars =\
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
OOOOhhhhh, you couldn't borrow someone's sim?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
Wow thats the first ive heard of that with rooted phones.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
Nah I don't have friends with g1 they got mytouch n the dataplan r not the same bcuz I try.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
Dude reed my phone is not rooted that's wat I'm trying to do but I have to downgrade from 1.6 n I don't have data plan do activate again
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
G1 and Mytouch both have the Android data plan
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
I meant to say unroot, i have a unroot(friend) and i dont need anyone to activate it for me.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
I try it dosent work plus I call tmobile they told me they r not the same

So there's no wey to root on 1.6 ?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
Not without downgrading
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
Well thanks anyway .

I don't no why I unrooted my **** =\
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JAguirre1231:
Because you wanted to see what you would be missing out on?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androiid=D:
Yeah someting like that lol it had the hero one. It was realy slow
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hatebreeder209:
which android 2.0 rom is as of right now the most reliable and fastest
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
Ya mom's rom..jk

The fastest one out is manup's or jacman.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djluis48:
i believe its a matte of taste...download some of them, and decide yourself...:)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smackdown85146:
IMO, jac's xrom. His kernel is blazin' :cool:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frito37:
Both 2.0 roms are really slow, They run fast but for anything other then the home screen its slow.

Stick with cyano :D
[General Questions and Answers] spereira88:
New to the forums! Hi im Serg ^.^

Just got my Touch pro2 Recently and am wanting to get a Plan with the New carrier here in Canada called WIND Mobile

Link to there site: http://www.windmobile.ca/

i was wondering if my HTC Touch Pro2 is Compatible? ive had to Do a Hard SPL unlock to change the language of it from Portuguese to English threw a ROM update. i kept official rom.

the Carrier uses SIM cards and is using AWS/1700 Mhz/BandIV

"You need a phone that is designed and unlocked to work on AWS/1700 Mhz/BandIV"

http://www.windmobile.ca/support/faq/phones-wind/#question-5

Question is, Will this phone work Fine with the Carrier? Or will i have to flash a New radio? or am i just screwed?
[General Questions and Answers] zfahrenheit:
Yes its compatible with windmobile. Probably you might have to unlcok your phone.

zee
[General Questions and Answers] spereira88:
Ah! :D Thats GREAT News! thanks m8!!!!:D