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[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
Why do you keep assuming this was intentional? Why would it be intentional?
[Nexus One General] Deathwish238:
lol...yeah Google is closing off Android but not letting us pick out led colors! Damn they got us good! We're as stuck as Apple now :p
[Nexus One General] Deathwish238:
Nice! It looks great
[Nexus One General] Deathwish238:
1. Sure, but with root you can be running ROMs with features from OTA updates that are not yet released

2. GTalk works fine. The native IM app is crap anyways...just use something else on the market like Palringo or Meebo or the like

3. You'll have Google Maps Nav. That'ld be lame otherwise.

4. You can always go back to stock

5. Not sure about this yet. We'll probably be able to eventually.
[Nexus One General] dextroz:
Thanks for your answers! I am going root...on this baby!
[Nexus One General] ash99:
Trackball colours would be Brilll. I loved having the ability to changed the colours of the LED on my blackberry !!!

Good luck lads !
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Why would I be asking if I assumed that?

There's always the possibility it is.There could be a problem we're unaware of. Google doesn't let devs access for the sake of codecs and EQ bands. They don't want cyanogen putting there apps in his Roms. Why is it not in the realm of possibility that it was intentional ?
[Nexus One General] cizan:
Am I the only one who doesnt mind the white color? lol
[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
When you're an Android user, anything less than full functionality is unacceptable.
[Nexus One General] DarkLord7854:
Yes. :p

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[Nexus One General] kep0ne:
Ran some of the scripts today...cool to finally see the different colors on the trackball. Can't wait until there's an app to enable this permanently.
[Nexus One General] start_developing:
Pretty funny to see that there is no way to set any LED notification at all on the Nexus One. (with the SDK) What a senseless decision. :)
[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
I wish people would stop referring to this as a decision.
[Nexus One General] ScaredyCat:
Oh No! Google wont let you freely copy their own closed source applications that handset makers have to pay to include. How very dare they.

SC
[Nexus One General] ScaredyCat:
I have to agree. It seems that the Nexus One has had one unforeseen side effect - it's made huge numbers of people immediately turn against Google who clearly understand Google's intentions, better than Google themselves.

I'm beginning to suspect that they're ex-iPhone users/devs who now have a Nexus One but in reality still want their iPhone. :p

SC
[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
I believe it's a mix of iPhone owners and those who tuned in to the nonexistant press conference where Google said it would have VoIP, free phone calls, and scratch your ass for you.
[Nexus One General] start_developing:
Well to be honest I am not an iPhone user and have never been. ;) I just assumed it would be a decision since the latest handcents of HTC ignored the color settings as well. ;) We will see if and how fast they will fix that issue.
[Nexus One General] rastacre:
Green works fine the LED component is a 3color LED.

The led on the top right corner (battery charge) has also an amber component.

SO here's the possible working combination that will work for the jogball (I tested many different combination of RGB codes... I easily get carried away by pretty, shiny pulsating colors...) :

0 0 0 off
255 255 255 white
255 0 0 red
0 255 0 green
0 0 255 blue
255 255 0 yellow
255 0 255 magenta
0 255 255 cyan

My favorite are Yellow and Cyan.

you can have many other colors in between keeping in mind that 3colors LEDs have a limited color range, so for example you won't be able to make browns or grays and many others.

basically u can just have shades of the RGBCMY range

and will have the following colors range:

enjoy
[Nexus One General] joni13337:
i see you are very irritated with how ppl describe this issue, so let me hear your side, What is it then? A error? Manufacturing failure? Did they just forget it?
[Nexus One General] m3nster:
Aaah not working, i thought command prompt
[Nexus One General] :
Android isn't built for a single device. So they can't put device specific commands without taking into account all possibilites.

They are probably having issues with how it reacts on other devices.

Apparentlty some people think building and OS is spectacularly easy.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
You would think that the Flagship device that apparently has been worked on for a long time would be the one device that wouldn't be overlooked.

I highly doubt every single person in the "dog fooding" process failed to install some of the most popular apps on Android and all of them overlooked the RGB Trackball was limited to one single type of notification.

Actually it seems the only people NOT upset about it are former Iphone users who seem to be thrilled they have ANY kind of notifications at all.

As for the hundreds of thousands who've DLed the apps to customize them...we're used to something more.
[Nexus One General] melterx12:
I am not a former iPhone user, and I am not upset about this. Assuming that the color limitation is hardware and not software, crying about this wont change anything. Suck it up and move on.
[Nexus One General] kep0ne:
Luckily it's only software. I agree it sucks that it's not enabled by default, but give it time and it'll get figured out.
[Nexus One General] imfloflo:
As we have found the files needed to be modify to change color/brightness/period.

Can someone with development skills and Eclipse install on his PC make a little apps to change this more easily instead of typing this script.(for root user)

Please :)
[Nexus One General] Mi|enko:
I posted the Gscripts a few pages back.
[Nexus One General] VinylJStar:
The trackball on my old iPhone 3GS had 1024 assignable colors.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Right. Because 3g issues , and dust under the screen will just up and solve themselves right ?

No need to post about anything just wait for things to happen.

Amazing you have no interest in this yet you keep sticking your nose in this thread.

Your a worthless poster and continue to prove it.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
FYI from the google help thread
[Nexus One General] :
I'm pretty sure on the totem pole of priorities for prepping the device to go out, having a customizable trackball is probably nearing the bottom.

Especially something that can be patched with a minor software update.
[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
I'm assuming it's a result of some neglect on the software development side. Keep in mind that Google made every hardware decision going into the Nexus One. I think it's unreasonable to assume they wanted a tri-color LED so they could make white notifications.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Considering the 3g and dust issues. You are probably correct.

Hence me being baffled. They even mentioned the RGB in the press conference. Didnt they try it out first ?

All in all I see no reason not to bring it up and continue discussing it. It obviously now has the attention of devs here and possibly Google directly.

I dont see why anyone would have a problem with that regardless as to "why" something isnt working.

Google doing it intentionally ((maybe they felt it was unimportant , maybe they have there own customization app down the line)) or it being an oversight makes a difference as to how people will approach a possible solution.
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
I have written an app which changes the colours of the trackball via onscreen buttons. Going to add flash frequency slider tomorrow. However I'm not sure the point of it other than initial proof of concept.

I'm happy to share the apk but dont see the point in releasing on the marketplace.

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] ScaredyCat:
How about putting in a google code project ? It should be easy enough to extend it to trigger when notifications come in.

SC
[Nexus One General] imfloflo:
I know but an application is better than Gscript.

With 3 slidebars to select the 0 - 255.

another one to choose the duration it will be perfect and more easier than editing a script.

thanks @lilHermit put the apk here for the moment and if you see lot of people interesting put it on the market
[Nexus One General] joni13337:
Ok that sounds fair, but nonetheless they could have tried and fix that before they release the phone because thats jsut stupid in my opinion, but oh well lets hope they make an update or as i heard an app, i would be willing to pay no problem because thats ridiculous, i didnt even know they built in a tri colored led in the trackball until i stumbled upon this thread and now it makes me wanna have it soo badly ;D
[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
I'm curious, lazy, and inept at coding. Please post your app :)
[Nexus One General] gunnner:
Three unrelated points:

1. It seems to me that the only reason we're irritated by the lack of multi-color notifications is because we know it's technically possible. The vast majority of users out there won't give a crap - they see it's blue for Bluetooth, red for VM and white for everything else and then go back to playing with Google Goggles.

2. FWIW, when a VM comes on on Google Voice, my trackball is still white. Even with no other notifications on the bar. Is it only red when it's your carrier's VM or something?

3. The LED color customization interface would slot in really nicely with the already fine-grained audio notification system. It seems like every app that puts up notifications can already either use the default sound or any other one you choose. Having LED color right next to that option in every app would be unobtrusive and tidy.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Nope. Carrier VM still results in white for me.
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
Here is a quick and dirty apk allowing you to change the colour to 6 colours and change the flash interval.

Obviously: rooted su phone needed.

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] gunnner:
Deleted post due to stupidity.
[Nexus One General] brotbuexe:
dont work here with superuser rights.

D/su (26797): 10209:10209 eu.culverhouse.android executing 0:0 /system/bin/

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D/su (26806): 10209:10209 eu.culverhouse.android executing 0:0 /system/bin/

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D/su (26809): 10209:10209 eu.culverhouse.android executing 0:0 /system/bin/

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D/su (26812): 10209:10209 eu.culverhouse.android executing 0:0 /system/bin/

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D/su (26815): 10209:10209 eu.culverhouse.android executing 0:0 /system/bin/

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D/su (26818): 10209:10209 eu.culverhouse.android executing 0:0 /system/bin/

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[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
Apologies, was using a local symlink. Hopefully that fixes the problem.

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] brotbuexe:
works fine now
[Nexus One General] Amdathlonuk:
i keep getting SU force close error :(
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
Does it not work at all or only FC sometimes?

I'm currently working on an app which changes the colour and flash rate on incoming SMS. It is currently working but needs a lot of work tidying before I'm happy to release.

I also need more feedback on TrackballColourConcept.

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] Amdathlonuk:
That's the weird thing.

I can see your screen, I can see the colour selctions and the flash slider.

I see the SU request come at the top of the screen but then instantly dissappears and after a few seconds I get a SU force close error and it goes back to your trackball screen.

It then just loops like that, shame :(
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
OK I've moved the initial su request to before the main screen is drawn to see if that helps.

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] Amdathlonuk:
Works perfectly.

We have a 6 colour flashing trackball!!!
[Nexus One General] dextroz:
First i want to thank you for devoting your time to this app. Can your application eventually be extended so it supports all kinds of notifications sms email voice mail etcetera?

Question 2 will i eventually have to root my nexus 1 to use your application?

For everyone's sake in this forum and those interest in this thread i wish you luck in your coding efforts!
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
Yes I'm working on an application just now that does just that.

Initially it will be free however the more functionality I add it may go pay. I'm thinking, SMS, Email, Missed Calls etc all having different blink rates and colours.

Maybe even different colours and blinks rates for different people in your contacts list!

Unfortunately as it stands yes, unless Google/Android unlock the functionality in the SDK.

Many thanks

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] Amdathlonuk:
My friend, for unlocking the colours flashing trackball, charge away.... :D

This opens the door for a lot of opportunity.
[Nexus One General] dextroz:
Your plans for implementation sounds fantastic. I am ready to paint kind sir thank you!
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
I can't lay claim to all the work I've just picked up the ball and ran with, turning it into a working app.

Not sure how long it will take to get the functionality I'm aiming for, I've only been developing on android since Monday. TrackballColourConcept was my first app. :)

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] Mi|enko:
You should either make a limited one for free and a donate one with full functionality. I think everybody here (and probably most people with a Nexus) would pay a buck to unlock the potential of the trackball. :-)
[Nexus One General] velazcod:
That little app is cool, I've been playing with it with the command line but this is way easier to play with...

Also, while I was playing with the jogball files last night I found the "button-backlight" folder which led me to create this app "Softbuttons Hack" (Direct Market link: http://bit.ly/5xIKTf), so, in a way thank you very much guys!

Does anyone know whats the path of that folder in the Droid??

I'm going to go look in img files right now
[Nexus One General] usmc2k:
Hope this Helps !!!!

Ive been using always flash on my nexus one and have noticed that while im charging the phone the led blinks as it should !!! so hopefully theres sumthin in the codex that can help u figure out a solution to konstant workn leds and trackball kolors....
[Nexus One General] kwan:
It seems I'm having difficulty getting it to work. I'm rooted and I've got N1 Torch working.

I placed the latest apk file in the SD card and installed it via Apps Installer.

But when I click on the TrackballColourConcept, it just hangs on the black screen with the app title on top. Eventually it goes to Force Close.

Is this noob missing something obvious?

Thanks

Update: I turned USB debugging and rebooted, and now it works.
[Nexus One General] eabinsan:
i assume that it is not possible to have it blink with alternating colors? so that we will be able to see that we missed a call and have a new text?

if this is the case, it should be possible to prioritize the messages. when i have a missed call, i want it to blink red, and don't care about unread emails.
[Nexus One General] dextroz:
What flash do you mean? Camera flash when you take a picture?

What led blinks? The flash, trackball or the charge indicator? I don't see any of them blink while charging. Can you please clarify? In my case, the charge led is a steady orange or green while charging. The flash led does NOT turn on at all nor does the trackball led.

Thanks!
[Nexus One General] Amdathlonuk:
Mine either my LED is constant while charging.

I think it's lonely on the planet he's on.....:D
[Nexus One General] usmc2k:
On the market there is a program called "Always Flash for Root Users" download and install it what the program does is allow the top right led to flash while ur charging. I use handcent sms and have the message color set to magenta. Now while charging if i get a message or gtalk or missd call the top right led will flash the proper color....
[Nexus One General] usmc2k:
Its so lonely heres a vid :-p.... blinking magenta from new message !

Here in this one i changed it to RED !!
[Nexus One General] velazcod:
I guess that only happens while its charging right?
[Nexus One General] usmc2k:
Yes.... but it shows it works jus have to find a way to make it constant without charging..
[Nexus One General] kwan:
usmc2k,

Thanks for that info. But what do you mean by "I use hand sent.."?
[Nexus One General] velazcod:
Handcent is an SMS client for android, like a replacement for the stock messaging app, you can get it in the android market it just enables you to customize some options like led colors and stuff, and even to apply more customization per contact.
[Nexus One General] usmc2k:
My bad I ment Handcent sms... its a customizable program i use instead of the stock sms... its in the market
[Nexus One General] kwan:
Oh!

So with this app you can actually use the features from Handcent? Very cool.

Thanks.

On a side note, do you always have to activate USB debugging when installing a rooted app?
[Nexus One General] usmc2k:
It only works while the phone is charging that is the point of "Always Flash" and i always leave usb debugging on i has nothing to do with installing an app from the market
[Nexus One General] kwan:
I tried the missed call, but get no blinking from it. Text and email does work though.

Any suggestions?
[Nexus One General] usmc2k:
not set up for nexus or 2.1 yet
[Nexus One General] Mikey:
Very nice progress :)
[Nexus One General] Nycro:
Here is a proof of concept for the nexus one.

Requires ROOT

Once instaled upon recving a text message the track ball should light up red and display a message

This is a proof of concept and there will be more to come :)

Thanks,

Nycro
[Nexus One General] scepterr:
@Nycro

Force closes when receiving sms, it asked for su perm the first time.
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
Nycro,

Did you manage to stop it flashing when the message is read?

That's the part I'm having problems with, the intent is getting swallowed up by the in-build sms app.

lilHermit

Edit: Seems you are having the similar issues! Is it supposed to continue flashing until sms read or just flash once/twice?

I tested your app a few times and had mixed results. First time flashed red and did not stop, second time, flash red once then flashed white once. Not getting the FC reported by others.
[Nexus One General] scepterr:
@Nycro

Works after uninstall/reinstall. Flashes red once then white once.
[Nexus One General] Nycro:
Double Post
[Nexus One General] Nycro:
I will be working on trying to figure out how to disable the built in SMS notifaction for the trackball today along with working on enabling the FM radio that im working as well.Open to all suggestions anyone has come up to acroading to to the built in SMS service.

Thanks,

Nycro
[Nexus One General] Amdathlonuk:
Wow!

Apologies, just booked my flight to the same planet!!!

;)
[Nexus One General] usmc2k:
Any updates?
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
I should have an app by the weekend.

I have it flashing on incoming SMS/MMS and continues flashing at chosen flash rate until the message is read. I've been coding this for the 3 days 17hours a day :confused:

Just need to a) tidy it up b) add settings screen to set colour and flash rate.

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] usmc2k:
Id luv to test it out be a guinne pig... give sum feed back
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
I'll pm you a rigid version tomorrow (ie cant change colour or flash speed), so no settings window.

What seems a simple app has turned into a massive project, 2254 lines of code just to turn off the flashing on SMS/MMS read. :mad:

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] usmc2k:
Sounds like a plan... N thanks for all the hard work
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Holy cow.

Have you been looking at Handcent/MissedCall/MissedReminder to save time ? or completely from scratch ?

I have no idea what is involved in the process but impressed nonetheless.
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
Its mostly from scratch, the problem is its easy to get it flashing on SMS incoming. However as the notification in the status bar is set by the SMS app, you can't "tap" into the onClick message in Notification Window to turn it off.

The only solution is to turn off SMS Notification in build-in app and replicate that in my own code. So maintain a list of recipients and unread count and set the Notification accordingly, set the onClick myself. Then I can turn off the flashing and call the inbuilt sms to display the message.

Simple!!!

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] Nycro:
Were you able to dissable the default notification of the track ball (white) or did you have to complety dissable the built in sms notifcation? Maybe a little colberation is needed here as im working on having this for phone calls as well.

and as you I have been coding in my spare time as well as working on the fm part of the phone.
[Nexus One General] setzer715:
Sounds great, cant wait to try it out. If you put up on the Market I'll even through a little dough towards it!
[Nexus One General] indiearmy:
I'll gladly test it if you want to shoot a build my way.
[Nexus One General] geovass:
This is Great!!! Good Work!!!
[Nexus One General] Mi|enko:
Hey man, would the SourceCode that just got released be able to help you?
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
If you mean the new 2.1 SDK, the answer is no. This functionality was not unlocked in the SDK probably because this is the only phone that supports it.

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] velazcod:
He probably didn't mean the SDK but the actual Android Open Source Code.

Still, it might not help since the actual drivers are not open source and you are actually messing with it directly bypassing any SDK functionality (since its not available)...

In any case, the open source code might help a ROM modder to implement this more "natively"
[Nexus One General] Mi|enko:
Yup. Source code, not sdk.
[Nexus One General] Jonnyw2k:
Yes, but when buying the phone surely you are licensed to use the software, so if he puts it into his ROM for the Nexus One. You paid for the device which is how the handset makers paid for the right to include, so in theory you are paying to allow the software to be used on the phone.
[Nexus One General] hamshu:
IANAL, but that's what a EULA for the phone entitles. You buy the physical entity that is the phone, none of the information actually stored directly on your phone. Under most law, your contract/purchase agreement entitles you to buy the phone, but all software is owned and licensed from a larger entity(Google). However, anything released under the CC license, I think that's what AOSP is released under, is fair game for anyone.
[Nexus One General] Mikey:
Im catching bits and pieces off this, lets not forget that Google apps may NOT be modified and redistributed at all.

We remember what Cyan went through??

Handcent only pulls the message from messaging received it ;)

Handcent has its own notification system, thus if you dont turn off messaging notification you get duplicate notifications.

Just making sure you guys understand, we dont need Google sending out more C&D to anyone ;)

Then again what do i know :(
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
I have a working SMS app via intercepting the message and implementing my own Notifications. This would be much easier solved in the system software but as you as all aware we cant modify and redistribute that.

The problem I need to track now is making my app co-exist with other system notifications, like email and missed calls because currently the override each other.

If anyone has any theories please PM me.

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] bobtentpeg:
If you can't release the modified apps, you can always release what modifications need to be made
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
So everyone wanting to use it will have to re-compile java files?!?

lilHermit
[Nexus One General] bobtentpeg:
Compiling Java isn't too hard. But, its a quick
[Nexus One General] lilHermit:
I know its not difficult but its convoluted. Download the SDK, and a IDE and the relevant Java SDK/JRE etc Checkout the AOSP (which about 3gb in total). Change the files, recompile then transfer the apk to their phone.

lilHermit