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[Hero, G2 Touch General] DJBenson:
Back on topic for a moment, I can whole heartedly recommend Sygic Mobile Maps for Android navigation, I've used it on WinMob, Symbian and now Android and it's a superb product. The map data is from Teleatlas (who remember are now owned by TomTom) so it's as close to "TomTom" on Android as you can get.

Have a look at Sygic.com for full details.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] gudge:
I recommend Copilot 8. I use it mainly in the UK, but also used it to navigate around Italy last week, worked really well. Probaly a bit more fiddly than TomTom to set a destination or favorite, but once thats done it just works. You need a car charger cable really, otherwise the battery will be dead in a couple of hours.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ZED_pt:
Strange no one mentions NDrive...

I used Tom Tom 6/7,Co Pilot and Ndrive and i can say Ndrive is much better then the other 2.

And is avayable in almost every country...unless off course,you are planning to go to Chad,Somalia or something like that.

And the 3D maps are awesome,but consume more battery.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] wywywywy:
Personal favourites are -

Sygic - Road sign display, helps a lot at night day with poor illumination

Copilot - God-like live traffic display, helped me avoid traffic jams many times

Both are better than TomTom in my opinion, but TomTom still has the most intelligent routing, particularly noticeable in the country-side.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] twinikita:
In my opinion copilot sucks, and here's why. It works well if you are only going from A-to B, but the moment oyu add a few via points to the map it starts getting really, really slow.

In my job I usually need anything from 30-50 via points, and that just makes the programming into a crawling snail

Furthermore if you make a wrong turn, the program has to recalculate the ENTIRE route from scratch, instead of doing what tomtom does, and just calculate the little area where you made a mistake. Recalculating with 50 viapoints, or even 10, takes many, many, many minutes thus rendering the app practically useless. And even when you don't make mistake the map is so freakin laggy its laughable.

I'm using in on a rooted, overclocked hero btw, but slow as crap.

Tomtom FTW! At least that's my experience on winmob, where 50 via points didn't slow the program down one bit!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] farukb:
did anybody manage to install igo? if so,please pm me
[Hero, G2 Touch General] M3nti0n:
I Think i may love the Dutch MobilePhone Providers cause they r cheap!

I can use every program i would like, even SIP on 3G.

I have an call/sms bundle of €10,- and unlimited internet based on F.U.P. ( Fair Use Policy ) for €10,- a month thats 135 minutes or sms's

i can use the internet almost unlimited cause the F.U.P is the avg usage of all internet users on that provider and that 10 times.

so if everyone uses 1gb that month i can use 10gb.

thats verry cheap for €10,-

My navigation will be just google nav i think, but just looking around since i just have my hero since thunderday last week ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sinnadyr:
COPILOT!!! The best ;D
[Hero, G2 Touch General] chriscpritchard:
Just wondering, what do you guys use as a car holder? I'm currently just relying on the voice, but that's not very reliable, it's easy to miss your turning.

Edit: already got a car charger
[Hero, G2 Touch General] peterc10:
Brodit active mount - works well in portrait or landscape mode. Not cheap but the best IMHO.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] chriscpritchard:
Yeah, they are quite expensive :( £35 ish, which is a lot of money. Was thinking more in the £0-20 range :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] peterc10:
You pay for what you get in life. I bought my last one from prepaymania - they are selling it for £28 here And delivery is free.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nightblazze:
Anyone have a good GPS client in Canada? Google Navigation is disabled in Canada and unlimited cell plans are expensive.

I used copilot before but the Canadian maps are out of date at least 5 years...

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[Hero, G2 Touch General] wywywywy:
They heard you! Google Nav announced for Canada just now!! :D

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/09/google-maps-navigation-visits-canada-and-mainland-europe-remain/
[Hero, G2 Touch General] xarvox:
Also, when i need my gps the most, is when im miles outside the coverage area (in the middle of the bushlands).

So it fails miserably when im trying to find my way to the nearest main road, when i have no data connection..

therefore, offline nav is the way to go.

i cant rely on a gsm signal when my life could depend on it..
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rophaq:
i've been using valcro for years, it works a treat, better than any holder on the market. i had a holder before, i find it too big and clumsy and pricey.

i can stick the phone to vertically or horizontally, never comes of.:)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] alsheron:
Some interesting posts but a lot of users are missing the point here: Some users want Tomtom specifically for a variety of reasons and suggesting alternatives isn't really what we're after although you can bet that it's the usual response across forums. I know no-one here can magic Tomtom for android up but it's still irritating for a lot of us who want it specifically.

Tomtom does HD traffic which by all accounts is an incredible timesaver and other sat navs simply don't have it. It's the main reason I want Tomtom specifially along with it's ease of use and familiarity.

I've recently upgraded to the iPhone 4 from my HTC Hero for two reasons: Tomtom and Skype - both of which are inexplicably not on android. This is one of the major weaknesses of Android still: the Market. It doesn't yet seem mainstream (note: not marketshare!) enough that the major names are wholehertedly investing in it with any urgency - it's kind of like they're just taking their sweet time.

I was going to wait for Android 3 and the new UI overhaul by the end of this year supposedly but there's precisely no info on that at the moment and by the time it comes out, it STILL *might* not have Tomtom or Skype available. Madness. I'm not particularly thrilled about the new iPhone 4 - same old stuff really (meh) - but it does one thing better than Android and may always do unless Google get their finger out - provide a far richer ecosystem and marketplace. I'd say that's one of the killer features that no android handset can compete with currently - no matter the spec.

btw - anyone know any good reason why skype isn't on Android? (know this is off-topic - sorry)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] croques:
Skype IS on Android! But only on the 3 network in the UK.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Betty_Swallocks:
Sorry, I obviously wasn't clear enough. I'm not paying £25 for the internet. My entire contract with 3 costs £25 INCLUDING "unlimited" internet.

And my point still stands. I don't see why anyone would want a phone that is so reliant on an internet connection if they can't afford a contract that includes it.

Why save up to buy it sim free when the majority of applications you'd want to run on it won't work properly without a connection?

Back on topic, I'm using Copilot but it does bring up some interesting routes. I was going from Peterborough to Northampton the other day and decided (unwisely as it turned out) to trust the software.

For some reason Copilot decided it was appropriate to take me on a route that was 10 miles longer than the route I would normally use and sent me right through Kettering town centre. It doesn't have to do that sort of thing very many times to make you lose faith in it.

+1 waiting for TomTom here
[Hero, G2 Touch General] wywywywy:
Not quite HD Traffic but Copilot also has Live Traffic, which is also very good.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] avgjoemomma:
Just to make sure, people are talking about CoPilot from ALK, right? I'm interested in getting this as I don't want to have use my data ...I'm cheap ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] peterc10:
For those of you waiting for TT for Android to come along I suggest you wrap up warm and take lots of hot soup. It will probably be lonnnnnnng wait I suspect. :(

It appears that TT has chosen to go down the closed operating system route, largely, I suspect, because of the piracy issue. That is especially so with its 3rd party apps - only the iphone platform is now continuing to be developed. And it is also with its dedicated devices, which are becoming increasingly closed - for example 3rd Party POI support is being gradually eroded in the newer models.

And whilst HD traffic is good it is not the "incredible timesaver" it is made out to be. And other systems either have similar (Copilot) or are getting similar (Sygic)

avgjoemomma - yes copilot is made by ALK. But remember traffic, if you switch it on, uses data continuously. Not large amounts but it can be expensive if you are charged per day for data use. And many others, not just on this forum, have reported that it sometimes throws up some strange routes.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] avgjoemomma:
Thanks for the tip peterc10. I'll keep traffic turned off as I don't really need live traffic updates, I can google that before I leave :p
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Bingo Accent:
Apologies for resurrecting this thread....

I’ve only had an HTC Desire for the past few days, and I’m trying to figure out whether to stick with the Google navigation, or plump for an off-line/paid for application.

I’ve had TomTom for a number of years – through an Orange SPV C500 and a couple of XDAs – and ideally would like to stick with it. This is mainly because I’m used to it, so I’m far from a loyal and devoted customer (although I did try, then ditch the Co-Pilot that came with my XDA Orbit a few years back).

I’m having trouble getting the Google app to work. The first time I tried it, I wasn’t getting any turn-by-turn voice instructions, then last night I wasn’t getting any useful images – just a fixed/very slowly moving overhead map, rather than the view of the road ahead.

Added to the very fast, robotic voice, which doesn’t seem timed well to coincide with the action it’s instructing you to take (not to mention the American terminology – “In 1,000 feet.... How far is that...? Crash!! “) and it’s not really ‘there’ yet.

Is there any expectation that the Google app will improve/develop in the near future, so that it replicates what we’ve become used to from TomTom, Co-Pilot et al – only with clever Googliscious things like voice-searching and a Street View interface?

At the end of the day, I suspect I’ll need a fall-back option for when I’m out of signal range – but will Google become my everyday sat-nav???
[Hero, G2 Touch General] peterc10:
The reason for the fixed overhead map is I guess because you did not have a data connection, or the one you had was not fast enough to refresh the map tiles at the speed needed for your driving.

You won't get TT on Android anytime in the near future I suspect. However Sygic's Mobile Maps has a very similar interface (more intuitive than Copilot). The problem with Google is that you are reliant upon having a good free data connection. Not a lot of good if you are roaming or in places that does not have that.

I have Sygic for Europe and Copilot for the USA (it was cheap enough for the few times I am over there). I use Google as a back up when I am in the UK and am looking for something that I do not know the address of - find me the nearest chinese restaurant for example.

And when I do have a good data connection the satelite view is really good - but don't use it too often otherwise you will find that you use up more than your monthly data allowance.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Bingo Accent:
That's pretty much what I'm looking to do.

I tried the Google navigation again at the weekend, after I had the Android update come through, and it was certainly much better - but for the reasons you state, I think I'll go with Sygic.

Now if I can just figure out how to do things like change the ringtone, I might convince myself that this phone wasn't a mistake (took 3 hours to get it to sync my calendar and contacts with Outlook....).
[Hero, G2 Touch General] peterc10:
That's easy. On your home screen menu>settings>personalise>default ringtone. Or menu>settings>sound & display>phone ringtone. And you can choose to add any other ringtone to use from within the music player.

Download the latest HTC Sync 3 from HTC site - it is much better than Sync 2.

And I found reading the manual was the best way to appreciate just how much the phone can do and can be changed. Now I am used to it I am hooked.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] :
It doesn't matter how much your internet is or how much data you use if you go driving without network coverage. Geez, get out of the city more.

Also looking for TomTom or similar on Android, will check out Sygic and ndrive. IGO is not too bad, though lacks some features I like from TomTom.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ahmed_eltalkhawy:
I'm using HTC Hero With android 2.1

I have tried the following offline navigation appliactions

1 - iGo

2 - Copilot

3 - NDrive

4 - Sygic Mobile Maps 9,10

From my point of view iGo is the best, although it take about have a minute to start, and don't have the feature of adding the coordinates of the destination, the feature which i admire in other applications, as i search for the place to go in wikimapia.org or google earth for example, and get it coordinates from there

i like iGo's optimized routes, fast recalculations, accuracy of maps and its huge number of POIs

Sygic Mobile Maps 10 seems to be a good software also, but i didn't use it enough

NDrive maps' font is very small, and don't provide most optimized roots as others

Copilot have a problem with Arabic keyboards, so i couldn't make the best use of them

but generally they are all will do the job :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cageordie:
I am not ready to be really difficult about it yet, but CoPilot has been anything but plain sailing on Android 2.1 running on a Samsung Galaxy S hosted on the Verizon network.

In the beginning it worked fine, I bought it through Android Marketplace and it all worked. Then the trial period ran out... but hang on, I PAID already. It started saying my trial had expired and my android marketplace number was no good. After contacting support and getting no response I was about to call them but when I went to check the error message it worked. It also offered a trial of their live traffic service. Well, OK. Five days before that ran out it started asking for the Google checkout number again, which I saw was already cached. When I said OK it said the number was invalid. So two months after paying for the software it still won't run.

When it does run the navigation and traffic info are OK. It isn't anything like as good as Google for showing nearby traffic. As of the last version that would actually run it wouldn't remember destinations properly and wouldn't navigate to contacts. However it did work much much better off-network than Google or Waze... which require network access, so they show a blank screen. Waze is a fun navigation toy, but not anything like as good as Google or CoPilot.

I am seriously considering buying a Tomtom or Garmin GPS again. On Verizon the network is not available during a voice call, so Google nav and CoPilot's live traffic are down. Not great on a 100 mile commute.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ewingr:
It seems there isn't too much really good available for offline NAV for Android with US maps. I tried Navigon, and it was so minimalilstic compared to TomTom on my WinMo, I didn't keep it.

Been seeing too much negative feedback on CoPilot to try it.

Ndrive is a bit expensive. The comments indicate the maps are outdated, but not sure what country they are referring to.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] peterc10:
Copilot worked fine for me with US maps running on my HTC Hero (this is a Hero thread after all). I bought and downloaded it direct from ALK rather than the Market. Cost a bit more ($30 rather than $20) but the support was much better and quicker.

If you are looking for a Tom Tom like experience then, as I said in my previous post, Sygic is the closest. However it is more expensive than Copilot and for the few times I visit the USA it was not worth the extra money, hence why I bought Copilot. However I have Sygic as my main Sat Nav at home in the UK (and Europe) and it is excellent.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Saphroxx:
I am a 100% Copilot fan! They had some issues getting their app to work on Froyo but that was solved now in version 8.2. Apart from this I somtimes use Navigon which isn't bad at all, but till I prefer Copilot.

Then there is a completely free app called "Waze" which is just AWESOME for realtime traffic news/ drug&alcohol tests / security cameras and speedtraps etc. It's free and will stay free, the more people who use this in your neighbourhood the more accurate it will work. But this beaty needs a dataconnection unfortunately.

From what I read what you like and don't like, I think you should really give Copilot a try. It's the most complete application with most funtionality in my opinion.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ewingr:
I installed CoPilot a few days ago.

I like it a lot. In fact, in many ways, better than Google Nav. Of course, GN has some nice features I'd like to see in CoPilot.

The map graphics looks a bit weird after using GN so much. Seems out of proportion, but in the end, not a big deal.

One thing that is a bit strange is that the avatar (or whatever its called) indicates your location maybe 100-150 ahead of where you are. Sometimes I seem to be actually located at the back of it, whereas I would expect to be the tip.

Its definitely better than Navigon; and better than the older version of Tomtom I used on my Tilt.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sblar:
I have asked TomTom support and to day I got an answer, saying that nothing has been planned yet. Unbeliveable!

:mad:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Max-Thrust:
I have Sygic, whilst my house mate got co-pilot and we both agree that sygic mobile maps is the best. Here are the pros and cons (IMO):

Sygic (9/10)

*Pros:

-Faster

-More accurate routing

-Better support for low-end phones

*Cons:

-The most expensive

Co-pilot (6/10):

*Pros:

-Cheap

-When you stop, it shows local businesses/attractions

*Cons:

-roundabouts (would always say "take a RIGHT at next roundabout, FIRST exist???")

-resource hog
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sblar:
What would you like it to say?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] peterc10:
If you drive on the left (as we do in the UK) the right is usually the last, not first, exit on roundabouts. And the sat nav should understand that, or we (and visitors to the UK) will be in real trouble.!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sblar:
Doh!

Sorry, I wasn't thinking ;-)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] boab74:
Thanks for the info, have just started with Android and have been using tomtom and wanted something else.

Looks like Co-pilot for me.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] peterc10:
Using Sygic is very similar to using Tom Tom. Copilot has a different menu system, accessed in different ways. So if you are used to Tom Tom then you will find Sygic very intuitive. But you will get used to either.

I have Sygic for Europe and Copilot for occasional visits to USA.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] froyo_be:
Version of Android

Does somoene has good/bad experiences of Sygic Aura

or

Co-Pilot on one the Hero versions with Android 2.3.2 ?

Thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ExMM:
I have been using Navigon for ages, with the EU maps, and he never let me down..

On my old Hero is working like a charm and I've test it already in Italy and France...

I used copilot about a year ago, with Android 2.1 and it was really laggy...

So far Navigon, with reality view is my recommendation :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] froyo_be:
CoPilot on my Hero with Android 2.3.2

Hi,

Based on a message from an other thread, it seems that there are GPS stability problem with the version 2.3.2.

See the message from ArVanHas in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=932377&page=97

I have just bought CoPilot and I will test it tomorrow on Android 2.3.2 tomorrow with the ROM Elelinux-7.0.0-RC1-Hero-v0.9.

I will give you a feedback.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Matterhorn:
Igo is the same as Motonav. Search "motonav android" and you will find out all about it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] froyo_be:
My first day of use with Android 2.3.2 is positive. Don't understand what is going wrong...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dally:
Will be TomTom for Android i think.

I heard, that THE COMPANY from Netherlands is looking for programmers to move their navigation to the Android platform.

So...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] k0zmic:
Yup: http://phandroid.com/2011/05/31/tomtom-heading-to-your-android-market-soon/
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Jesaul:
Yup.

www . tablet . ru / news / 451.html

A short translation - this summer. :D
[Hero, G2 Touch General] m--m:
NDRIVE

Hi,

May I suggest NDRIVE? Ex: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ndrive.androidusa

I'm been using it for a couple of years and works smoothly on the HERO.

Regards,

M
[Hero, G2 Touch General] SA-man:
Now TOMTOM Navigation for Android in Google Play !!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Jesaul:
Support for not supported devices will be added later.. :p
[Hero, G2 Touch General] peterc10:
Too little too late for me.

And it is also incompatible with both of my devices - a HTC Sensation and Asus tf300. It seems it only works up on phones with resolutions up to 854x480!!

Typical TT
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Jesaul:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj11...r1rRYuEH-jIbfzwVy5xftCVFtozmBlFfjwkWepuyD6DDA
[G1 Android Development] garok89:
For those who miss the IM app from CyanogenMOD which was removed after 4.2.9.1

This is intended to be supplementary to the recent CM-roms as the IM app was removed in the last few version

no "wrong section" crap please as from my experience with supplementary files, this belongs here, not the apps section
[G1 Android Development] garok89:
bump (incase anyone is still after it)

ps. not on the updater anymore but too damn lazy to update
[G1 Android Development] Daneshm90:
Hmm wierd, this is an app and i cudda swear i've seen a app/games section on xda :rolleyes:
[G1 Android Development] nephron:
thanks a lot bro. Works great! :D
[G1 Android Development] garok89:
its here for a very good reason...

at the time i was distributing it via the cmupdater and had recieved 40+ emails of people asking for it (plus some more recently)

noone ever looks in the apps section and nobody took notice in the main CM thread

also, its part of the roms before 4.2.10 so i put it here as a supliment to the roms

i report enough "wrong section"s to know what constitutes being here
[G1 Android Development] bbbblack:
Daneshm90 is a clown... Good post garok89 and this is the correct section, its a system app having to do with the cyanogen rom, therefore it needs 2 be here.. ive been looking for this and i would never have went to the apps forum to look. This is jus like when someone post browser.apk updates or contacts.apk updates etc
[G1 Android Development] Androiid=D:
Thank Have Daiis LooKing 4 it =DDD Plus When You go to CyanogenMod updater Is Not there !! OK N Sorry But How Do u Install It Cuz is not a .aPk ??
[G1 Android Development] garok89:
the way you did with good old fashioned stuff before the updater...

download it, put it on the root of your sd card

reboot in to recovery

flash it

reboot

its not an apk file as there are extra things in there that need to be shuvved in to /system/app etc to make it work
[HTC Oxygen] arampatla:
Hi Guys, Does anyone know where i can get a cab file for automatic network connection (GPRS and MMS settings)?:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] macleo:
any developers could extract and make a cab file for the new keyboard sip from build 28002
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stylez:
Respect forum rules no double posts.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=612410

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=612414

Thread closed.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] macleo:
any master developers here could make a cab for the new keyboard SIP from wm6.5 build 28002..it would be great for our old buddy himalaya..