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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] appelflap:
The showcase taskmanager is recommended by many members on this forum. But I don't get it, although it is a very easy to use taskmanager, it can have an enormous delay after activating it via a hardware button or software button (sometimes it even doesn't show up in, say, half a minute or so). For me, that reduces the usability of this taskmanager almost to zero, because the very idea of a taskmanager is that you always have instant access to the running programs.

Now, I wonder if i've overlooked a particular setting, because really although I like the user-interface of this taskmanager, the unpredictability of the time it shows up is unacceptable to me.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jbh99blue:
I had the exact same problems including the delays and not coming on. I eventually lost patience and went to use Duttys one. You are not alone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Peteret:
Did you try the beta version found in in the showcase thread? This speeds up the loading considerably and is much snappier overall.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] appelflap:
I will check it out, but does it still has an unpredictable delay sometimes?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonedge:
Ok I had the latest 1.61 update (I think that was the version), followed the instructions at

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream_Rooting

To the letter however now I am thinking that I have a rogers dream.

I downgraded to rc 29 and followed the directions flashing with CyanogenMod 4.2.12.2

When booting I get stuck at the g1 boot screen, going into bootloader mode looks different than before instead of the colors I get three android icons at the bottom on a skateboard and in a yellow line says serial IO.

I'm kinda lost at this point can anyone help? I pray I didn't brick my phone.

I'm pretty new to Android, recently switched from WM. Be gentle...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s0xpan:
can u go into recovery mode? home + phone button

p.s. mind you that this isnt the proper place to be posting "problems"
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garok89:
wrong section, sorry

i will request it be moved to the correct section where you are more likely to get a useful reply
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonedge:
oops, sorry about the section...I know better than that =( I can access recovery mode. Problem is that sd card is no longer recognized by computer =( Was hoping there was something stupid and small I missed but looks like I'll need to get a new sd card and re-flash update to original.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sabin123:
Are you able to go to recovery console if yes go to recovery console and flash the rom again.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s0xpan:
sounds like u killed ur sd card :-x and your sd card is exactly what was allowing the rom to boot... it was a hero rom wasnt it lol

nevermind i reread your post...doesnt sound like a cyan caused problem....but cyanogen requires you to flash something before u flash his newer stuff...you should pay attention to BaconMod's stuff
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h.nocturna:
Did you flash the 1.6OTA update from HTC that is required first?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonedge:
Well Looks like I killed the sd card somehow. I put the sd card into my camera and back into my phone and works fine now...go figure.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thephantom007:
hey add me to my gtalk and i helo u step by step i think i know what u did cuz the same thing happened to me when i rooted the first time and those guys are being rude so if u want my help this is my gtalk thephantom0629@gmail.com
[HD2 Accessories] tmaniac:
So, i was wondering.

Since the battery life of the HD2 is sort of disappointing i wanted to look for an extended battery.

Now, i came across an ebay item and i'd like your opinion;

Here is the subject in question: E-Bay HD2 1500mAh Battery

Do you guys think it is

a) Truly 1500Mah

b) Truly standard size

still in doubt as of to purchase that battery, thats why i want to ask the opinion of the community.

Cheers :)
[HD2 Accessories] chongbh:
This battery looks interesting but not sure whether the size is the same as stock battery so that the metal cover can close nicely?
[HD2 Accessories] itoYo:
i just bought it! for seven dollars (~£4.50 GBP) i think its worth a shot! will report back when/if i get it!
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
me too. I thought I'll buy a guy in Hong Kong a cup of coffee and lets see what for good things will come from it. :)

To the OP: thanks for the tip!

BTW Mugen also makes extended batteries - though not for the HD2 yet - that have a greater capacity and a standard fit, so ... it is possible (if not, a spare battery for 5 euro is always usefull)
[HD2 Accessories] str0g:
I cant belive that this chinese crap can have more then 1000 guys
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
but it's a real Phieips :D
[HD2 Accessories] xmoo:
Please do!
[HD2 Accessories] lude219:
Noone seem to notice the mfg date on that battery is 3months before the HD2 was even available worldwide? :D

Then again, it's only $7 bucks...
[HD2 Accessories] tfouto:
I dont believe this battery his really 1500mah... I have bought some other batteries on ebay to digital cameras who 'supposely' had bigger capicity, but in reality their time was much shorter than the one that came to the camera. I believe this should be the case...
[HD2 Accessories] jaspergoh:
Please feedback if the 1500mAh battery is long lasting?
[HD2 Accessories] itoYo:
yeah i did notice that the battery was made before the HD2 came out! ha ha!

and that its made by a well know company! lol!

i just noticed that the battery terminal polarity indicators are in the wrong position! lol!

we find out when it arrives!
[HD2 Accessories] xmoo:
Use the Battery tool for it. Search for HTC Debug Tool, it's in it.
[HD2 Accessories] Wevenhuis:
I second that.
[HD2 Accessories] spyrale:
i ordered this

http://cgi.ebay.it/Informatica_Acce...QptZAccessori_per_palmari?hash=item2eaa472c9c

what do you think?
[HD2 Accessories] tmaniac:
well..only thing i can think of is...

The battery sais "Touch HD 2" out unit is called the "HD2" without the touch....but...as allways...we'll wait n see!
[HD2 Accessories] spyrale:
ehehhe, i'll let you know :)
[HD2 Accessories] rp7400:
Don't believe it

I checked c Manufacture Factory for this battery, It made in china , I found wrong record for it in chinese wesite. So don't believe it.
[HD2 Accessories] ruscik:
Please report on how it works and how it fits.

On all previous HTC phones I could stick a microSD and simcard side by side on top of battery and cover would still fit perfectly. I can not do that with Leo so am interested to see how it fits.
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
It looks that the Phieips battery isn't gonna work on the HD2 :) I recieved this email today:

Oh well, **** happens

EDIT: looks like **** happened only on 3 and 4 january. I just recieved another mail from the guy from Hongkong, which I bought a cup of coffee:

(bit ambiguous, but it looks as if my order is OK because i placed it jan. 6th. Or? :) )

He does take care of his business, that must be said.
[HD2 Accessories] Starfury:
I have always been of the opinion that cheap batteries from anywhere risk giving you a lot of pain, either physical pain from the device melting/blowing up/dieing in your hand or emotional pain from the device melting/blowing up/dieing in your hand (but you not being hurt) :D

Poorly manufactured batteries have a tendency of doing the above and is it really worth the risk for an extra 250mAh?

Edit: And to emphasise my point - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=614240
[HD2 Accessories] fards:
the battery testing is quite interesting, but I'm wondering how many people really let their hd2 go below 10%?

I decided to run it down today, I'm on my own rom, and have been struggling to get it to use the last remaining 10% of battery (as reported by the driver).

So far its taken 48mins of wifi (connected to N only router) running palringo and browsing with netfront and opera.

It's dropped to 7%
[HD2 Accessories] moneysaver05:
anyone going to give me an answer about the battery???????:confused:
[HD2 Accessories] mskip:
Its extremely unlikely that its a true 1600mAh battery but reports are saying it seems to be around the same mark as the original. You have to remember that this battery is only about £6 so you arent going to get a fantastic battery thats going to last for weeks but its cheap enough that you could buy a few and prolong your devices life by quite a lot longer :)

Mark.
[HD2 Accessories] chongbh:
I did twice with 2 batteries which I have, Momax 1100mah and Andida 1600mah battery, the phone battery is totally flat and switch off by itself then I charge the battery before turning on the phone again.
[HD2 Accessories] omershahab:
What's the consensus on the 1600mAH Andida battery for those of you who said they received it and were gonna test it?

Worth buying? Does it add a hour or two to the battery life?
[HD2 Accessories] moneysaver05:
cheers mark for the reply. I think I'm not going to buy one and instead will buy the official extended battery once its out.
[HD2 Accessories] mskip:
Teh only problem with the extended battery is the sheer size of it I think it more than doubles the thickness of the HD2 and not very attractive. I guess its good for static use though such as ona desk at work or for watching movies since it has a nice little built in stand.
[HD2 Accessories] liamR:
I keep getting the same results (more or less), so in conclusion

the HTC original battery is better than the Andida battery

.

I checked the driver reports several times, and it was correct. I missed the Excel lessons in high school so I'm a little newbie here... If you want I can attach the result files.

Does it matter ? It's not good as the original one... But it's worth the money.
[HD2 Accessories] tobbbie:
Why not, just zip them and post them or PM me. I'll make a quick Excel chart from them. Pictures tell more than words or numbers usually...
[HD2 Accessories] goldengoose:
I've been running this battery for about a week now, and can say I'm happy with it. I havn't had the opportunity to give it a real work out, but I'd say it's at least as good as the stock battery.

One thing I have noticed is that there is very little battery drain when I'm not using the phone - I have 3G with a data connection on all the time. However, this may be due to recently upgrading the radio and rom.

For the few dollars I spent, I certainly can't complain :)
[HD2 Accessories] donalgodon:
Sorry, but do you have a link for this battery where you bought it?
[HD2 Accessories] goldengoose:
Here's the link to the Andida 1600 mAh battery on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350311460513&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
[HD2 Accessories] omershahab:
Thanks for the reply goldengoose. I have huge battery drain on my HD2 for some reason with Wi-Fi on for push e-mail. Is that the reason?
[HD2 Accessories] eskasi:
Wifi on drain the batts on ANY phone really quick...
[HD2 Accessories] devil_82:
an hour of wifi drain around 8percent of my battery...sometimes i use bt to sync somemore....i think i really need a bigger capactive batt
[HD2 Accessories] kilrah:
Review for one of those Chinese offers here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5763032&postcount=21

I'm open to testing and comparing a "1600mAh" one if someone has a link or one laying around :D
[HD2 Accessories] orenxda:
"Dear customer,

we are just informed by HK Post that batteries are prohibited from shipping

internationally now so they will return packages with batteries they found

(we think not all because they check randomly). We will ship them again at

once through Singapore Post on 9/3 Tue. Orders from 25/2 - 4/3 maybe affected.

We apologize for the problems.

Please take reference at HK Post announcement:

All dangerous goods including perfumery products and lithium batteries are

prohibited

to be sent to overseas destinations by air mail.

(http://www.hongkongpost.com/eng/publications/guide/content/6.3.pdf)

Thank you very much"
[HD2 Accessories] saggydog:
I got the same reply from them too :(
[HD2 Accessories] aahkaa:
I would go with Momax instead of getting those so call "Hong Kong Famous Brand". I live in hk myself and i don't see too many ppl using this battery.
[HD2 Accessories] Sheldonjace:
Not to stray off topic or anything but in my own personal dealings with other phones a company to look into is Seidio.

I purchased their 1400 mAh Battery for the G1 (OEM size is only 1150 mAh) that is the same in size and its turned out great results. I've had this battery for about a year and the life still exceeds OEM HTC replacement batteries. The battery life increased about 17-20% over the HTC battery too.

They currently have no products for the HD2 but that will most likely change after the U.S. launch of the device in Spring (hopefully end of March).

Prices are usually higher though but I feel its worth looking into if they do make an extended life/same size battery for the HD2.
[HD2 Accessories] General Skanky:
Hi, my first post here.

Just about to get my HD2 and just looking at things like better batteries.

However, after 20 pages, am I right in saying that apart from the official 2200 batt there isn't really anything worthwhile out there apart from the Mugen as per another thread?
[HD2 Accessories] A|ex:
The mugen 1500 is not out yet, there are 1300 ones out but this only gives a fraction more life. The BEST battery is the HTC extended which is over 2k but it makes your phone bulky. The 1500 is due out end of the month and is normal size, this should give you a few extra hours or maybe even a day worth of extra life.

There are other random batteries from HK/ China that are around 1500+ but most of these are low quality and its hit or miss whether or not you get a genuine/ fake or good performing battery. If you do not know the seller it might be a 1250mah battery with a 1500 sticker on
[HD2 Accessories] alexandruvlad:
Hello !

Is this battery BETTER than the originale one shipped with the phone?

Regards & thanks
[HD2 Accessories] G-ThGraf:
Yes, who try this battery? Is it really 1600Mah ? Not Dangerous for the phone? Thanks!
[HD2 Accessories] Eggy88:
Some reports have shown that they are in fact around 1600Mah, others less. All we can say at this point is that all of these cheap packs are of pretty low quality so they might be 1600Mah, but they will often last for a couple of months then they start to "loose" the charge.

I have ordered two of these 1600Mah packs from Andida, so will do some testing when i get them.
[HD2 Accessories] G-ThGraf:
I'm waiting your impression
[HD2 Accessories] Eggy88:
Just a quick update. Got the two 1600Mah Andida today, both looked ok.

They are close to identical to the original battery, 1-2grams lighter (24 compared to 26)

They are a snugg fit in the HD2, due to the poorly made lable. It's not cut 100% so it "overlaps" the cutout on the corners. But its not bad at all and will still fit in the HD2.

I have not started testing them for real yet, but ran a short test with one of the two Andida packs:

Looped The Helicopter Demo from Samsung devices over and over again and the movie opens in full screen.

- Phone in flightmode.

- Screen backlight sett to 100%

Both packs where charged in the device up to 100% and left for another 20min to ensure that they where 100% full.

Andida 1600mAh - after 31min - Went from 84 to 83%

Stock 1230mAh - after 32min - Went from 84 to 83%

Will do some more controlled tests tomorrow / Friday to check how many mAh i will get out of them using some Lipo Rc Computer chargers i have.

I will also run some more test to see how long the different packs will last with continues video playback. I have noticed before that some of the cheaper lipos are close to equal the more epensive ones down to 10-20% but then falls short.
[HD2 Accessories] kilrah:
Wow, seems I'm not the only one finally!

Check this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5763032&postcount=21

If your charger allows the same adjustments it would be nice to do it the same way so we can do a "real" comparison :)
[HD2 Accessories] tobbbie:
I wonder if anyone want's to take a chance to measure and compare the battery capacity yourself? No HW required - just Mortscript and your device. See more details here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=629348
[HD2 Accessories] airdream54:
And appelflap, does it work?
[HD2 Accessories] Eggy88:
I will hook one battery at the time up to a computer Rc charger i have, then i will run some Discharge - Charge cycles and see how many mAh i am able to push into the pack. The charger detects automatically when the battery is full.
[HD2 Accessories] kilrah:
Of course it does :D

But try to use the same method I did, i.e measuring discharge, not charge. But that needs you to be able to set your charger to stop discharging at 3.5V.

If your charger doesn't have that setting, run a battery down completely with the HD2, until it shuts down by itself, then charge the battery with your charger and note mAh. That's as close as it will get to my measurements. Otherwise they would get biased by the fact that usually RC chargers run down the batteries to 3V, not 3.5V like the HD2.
[HD2 Accessories] Eggy88:
Will try this tomorrow, have cycled one of the 1600mAh Andida packs. Discharged it with the charger to 3.5V, put it in the HD2 and it came up with 2% left, then i used it untill the HD2 shut down by it self. After that i charged it up and got 890mAh, so far i'm not impressed over theses packs.

But i will try some different test tomorrow, including what you said kilrah.
[HD2 Accessories] Eggy88:
Are you sure that the HD2 runs it down to 3.5V and then shuts down? After what i have seen all my 3 packs where reading 3.240V - 3.270V after the HD2 had power off due to low battery. That is readings from Battery Test (Tbattery 0.60) and a multimeter with the battery outside the device.
[HD2 Accessories] kilrah:
I checked voltage a couple of times when I was close to auto shutdown, it was turning off when the voltage reading was hitting 3.6V. However, it seems the HD2 filters the reading a bit, and "compensates" the voltage reading according to the current draw, and the true voltage is actually closer to 3.5V.

Anyway, when externally discharging to 3.5V the HD2 shows 3%, and shuts off after a couple of minutes.

So it's around there, i.e perfectly safe in any case.
[HD2 Accessories] Eggy88:
Ok, did some more test her today.

Test 1 - Phase 1

Discharged the battery inside the device:

- BT and Wifi on,

- Backlight 100%

- Gps running in the background

- Looping a movie in fullscreen over and over again.

= Readings from battlog shows 540mAh drain.

Voltage readings 5min after auto shutdown:

1600mAh Andida 1: 3.240v

1600mAh Andida 2: 3.270v

Original 1230mAh : 3.300v

Test 1 - Phase 2

Charged all batteries with Rc charger:

Charging @ 1A

Results:

1600mAh Andida 1: 1034mAh

1600mAh Andida 2: 1024mAh

Original 1230mAh : 1083mAh

Test 2 - Phase 1

I decided to discharge the batteries by reduscing the power drain for the last 5%

Down to 5%: Same as in Test 1.

From 5% to Autoshutdown:

- BT and Wifi OFF

- Backlight 30%

- All other apps shutdown

= Readings from battlog shows 126mAh drain.

Voltage readings 5min after auto shutdown:

1600mAh Andida 1: 3.509v

1600mAh Andida 2: 3.540v

Original 1230mAh : 3.601v

It looks like the high battery drain in test 1 some how forced the device to be futher discharged then with a lower drain.

Test 2 - Phase 2

Charged all batteries with Rc charger:

Charging @ 1A

Results:

1600mAh Andida 1: 913mAh

1600mAh Andida 2: 984mAh

Original 1230mAh : 1043mAh

My chargers dont allow me to set a voltage cutoff, they are all forced to 3.2v

so i'm not able to preform the same tests as you did kilrah.

My conclusion after this test are that the 2 "1600mAh" Andida batteries i recived is NOT 1600mAh, but more in the range of 1100mAh. This is also supported by the litle test i did earlier when looping a movie:

Andida 1600mAh - after 31min - Went from 84 to 83%

Stock 1230mAh - after 32min - Went from 84 to 83%

These batteries are not bad, considering that they cost me 9$ eatch inc shipping, but i dont think they will give you any more power then the original will.
[HD2 Accessories] kilrah:
OK, thanks!

Good to know indeed, capacity is just like the original, their label&spec is BS.
[HD2 Accessories] lquigley:
Great info!

Thanks guys for all the testing, Gives everyone good info on what to sort of expect. Thanks Again,
[HD2 Accessories] Eggy88:
No problem i have several other HD2 batteries on the way for some more testing, including:

1x 1350mAh China battery

1x 1350mAh China battery

1x 1350mAh Ecell battery

1x 1500mAh Galilio battery
[HD2 Accessories] dameon12:
DOnt buy such low quality batteries.

I just bought an ultra nice laptop battery with 6600mAh and it already reaches only 4000mAhafter two weeks of usage and i never overloaded it nor unloaded it too much.

I thought to buy a noname battery wouldnt be too dangerous and that you pay for the name in the original batteries but i will never buy such a sh*t again.

Im only waiting for the extended battery pck with 2500mAh and that will cost about 40€ - but i am happy afterwards and not disappointed to waste my money on a crappy chinese part.

The companies got a feeling for our beloved HD2 and see that a lot people have problems with the capacity. They just fill the gap until the original extended battery pack will be released and they wann make some profit off the needs others have with this device. SOme battery packs even are selfmade recycled old battery packs filled with selfmade stuff - then it gets kinda dangerous too...
[HD2 Accessories] Eggy88:
I get what you are saying, but all in all i have spent about 60$ inc shipping and all for all the batteries i have bought for the HD2. This is litle to no money for me, don't get me wrong i am not in any way bragging. (I live in Norway, this 60$ i have spent on cheap china batteries for the HD2 is as much as what i would have payed for 2 6-packs of beer here :P)

I also love to test different low priced China products. 90% of them are all BS, but after i have been testing 100 and 100 of China products i have also come across a few good.
[HD2 Accessories] dameon12:
Don't get me wrong. For testing purposes it is great. I am the first who says "hey i was wrong" when you find a low budget battery that lasts as long as supposed or better named to be :)

Yeah the beer in scandinavian countries is horrible expensive but very good :)

Some people also buy the ciphones from asia and say it is worth it.

I didnt buy these chinese products too often but everytime i did i was disappointed.

But tbh HTC is also asian and i believe the asians also have the best technologies - it is kind of a two sided blade :)

Sometimes even reengineering or back-engineering brought out some profitable goods that came out better than the originals.

I just wanted to tell my personal experience that wasnt that good for now :)
[HD2 Accessories] Eggy88:
Just recived two more batteries. One 1350mAh from Ecell in UK and one 1500mAh from Galilio in HK. Will do some test to see how they preform during the night / tomorrow.

Results will be posted here.
[HD2 Accessories] .hide:
aftermarket battery easy get overheat and cant charge on device itself. i was force to charge my replacement battery with a cradle. sickening.

any 1 have a decent made battery which wont get overheat easily to share? orginal battery temperture is around 32 but aftermarket 1 is 42!