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[Nexus One General] shata:
Well I'm one of those people, id personally like this to change because its like slap in face to people with families and hell ive been customer for 4 years.

Check it out and sign it if you agree.

petition

http://www.petitiononline.com/nexusone/

Engadet

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/subsidized-nexus-one-pricing-not-available-to-existing-t-mobile/

Google Forum complaints

http://www.google.ru/support/forum/...a8&hl=en&fid=3c0fd3870ec370a800047c7f82ebdf02

Google's Stock droped 2.5% at release

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:GOOG
[Nexus One General] student.driver:
Have you, by chance, checked out the new plans yet? They're pretty good, and I moved away from our MyFaves plan to an unlimited everything plan for two lines.

As for the upgrade pricing, I think the problem lies in the complexities of the family plans themselves and Google being able to interact with them. This is more like getting a phone online from Amazon than anything else, where it becomes quite difficult specifying all the options that you want. I'm getting the impression that with the simplified plans from T-Mobile, you'll see more "deals" like this in the future, and hopefully the multi-line/family plans won't be so complicated for a 3rd party like Google to pick up and interact with using a short lead time.
[Nexus One General] rossiscatch:
I am thinking I will use my upgrade for something like the BB9700 and sell it on ebay to subsidize this phone. I know it's not the preferred option, but I'm not leaving my family plan anytime soon. I might as well use the subsidy.
[Nexus One General] shata:
To complicated? Comon now you cant tell me a company with xxx$ stock price per share cant make a site capable of efficiently checking plans that are more complex then 500min plans for t mobile.
[Nexus One General] CDR123:
all i can say is wow

i mean ive been a T-Mobile customer for 8 or 9 years and I have a family plan. What up tmo? this is Bull**** for you most loyal customers, if it wasnt for us you wouldnt even be 3rd or 4th in the US. Wouldnt you beyond everyone else think of us first? I dont know if its just me but that just makes sence
[Nexus One General] jimbo831:
Add my name to this petition. Also, I'm not buying the argument that it's too "complicated" to offer more than one plan and family plans. If I go to Wirefly or Amazon, or any in store 3rd party retailers, I can sign up for family plans, or upgrade existing eligible contract lines that are already on family plans. Every other example of a subsidized phone sold in the US works on a family plan. Why is it too complicated for Google?
[Nexus One General] shata:
what gets to me is im loyal tmobile customer, i tell people to get them even if sometimes there not most reliable network. Also ive owned first android phone g1, now how have mytouch both at release and now i wanted to get nexus one and i cant because i have corporate discount (military) and family plan its just unbelievable to me u know.

I just talked to tmobile again and told them i may cancel my lines with them because really what do i need tmobile now for? honestly... I was told by representative that There is not solid news yet but he thinks google will adjust things over next while to make this a little more friendly.
[Nexus One General] shata:
Also added another google support link where everyone is posting. Its in my first post edited.
[Nexus One General] Mi|enko:
Google is selling and subsidizing the phone. The stipulations on how you can get a discount seems to be theirs as well, and not TMo's. If you don't like the terms, you can always pay full price and keep using whatever plan you want. At least if you activate a new line with the Nexus, TMo will still let you upgrade your plan if you want more minutes.

Since when does anybody sell anything for what people think they're entitled to pay? I don't want to get ripped off on a Mac, so you know what? They should charge what I'm willing to pay or I won't buy one. Maybe I'll start a petition. . .
[Nexus One General] shata:
Yeah your right, But the subsidizing is ripoff to tmobiles customers... OK New customers here have ****ty plan and nice new phone, while people that have been there multiple years have corporate discount and family plan are screwed. T-mobile doesnt take responsiblity for this and blames google, But really.. Both companies are benefiting from this Tmobile is getting more customers from differenet network carriers and Google is ripping off all the current customers for 530$.

Say what you will but thats how it is, very few people that are existing customers can even get any type of discount.
[Nexus One General] roteplex:
Understand Google's Business Model...

Google, has you sign a contract for them, and t-mobile for the subsidy. Google does not forbid users to change the t-mobile plan (nor does tmobile), after purchase of the phone so this petition is simply an act of idiocy. Simply put, buy the phone subsidized for $180, with the plan google has set up (79.99,web+text), then call a tmobile rep and ask them to merge the line with your current family plan, and cancel the current google plan, this works 100%, you will not have to pay ETF or pay Google $350, because you are only altering the plan terms, not the contract agreement. If you desire more min or want to cancel texting, call rep and ask them to bump you to an unlimited min/1000 min plan, without texting. You will get a subsidy and your desired plan. If you think that I am lying call a tmobile rep, they will tell you to do the same thing. Many people are complaining about this because they dont understand Google's business model, they obviously realized that a preset-500min plan would not eagerly sell, so people would buy unsubsidized, but at the same time they do not put in their terms of service that you cannot manipulate plan terms with tmobile, so basically for those of you who are a little more informed, this is in no way a limitation but more of an illusion of one.
[Nexus One General] heygrl:
T-Mobile is not selling the phone. T-Mobile is just offering the service. You can do the above EASILY with an individual plan. It's just sad that T-Mobile has to get blamed for everyone elses screw ups. The Sidekick disaster was mostly blamed on T-Mobile and they had nothing to do with it. Just sad.
[Nexus One General] shata:
Are you 100% sure you can merge there Plan with new activation to a old family plan, Like merging accounts?
[Nexus One General] roteplex:
Yes merging 2 lines into one family plan has been possible for ages, but most people just don't know of it. If you have and old family plan, with lets say 3 people(you being one of them), you buy the nexus one phone subsidized, and transfer your number, (auto-canceling your line in the family account), your family account now has 2 lines, or if you dont transfer, then simply manually terminate one line. (note if you are still in contract with tmobile on your old plan you will have to pay ETF for line cancellation.) You now have one family plan, with 2 lines and your Nexus One phone with its own line. Call Tmobile and ask them to add the Nexus One line under your old family plan and presto, you have your old family plan back, with a brand new spanking Nexus One. Again if you don't believe this, call tmobile and have them walk-you-through it.

Note once more that Google could have easily stopped this, but they didn't. So, to conclude, there are no limitations as far as plans with Nexus One (other than the data plan, standard for smartphones), anything else are mere delusions and the petitions going around are for morons, end of story. For all who complain about upgrade pricing, there were never any good prices for upgrades. ie never upgrade but start new accounts and cancel your old ones, and wait till your contract is over for a new phone, you will not regret it. You don't have to be a new customer, but you just need a new account to get the full subsidy.

I love Google and I always have. I expected nothing less from them, they are merely trying to uproot carrier dependency in America. In EU, vast numbers of people would pay $500 for a phone like the Nexus One because they know they can get a cheap ass pay-as-you go plans. And many still decide to get contracts because carriers offer real-world subsidies, phones like the TG01, can be bought through orange on a 45 dollar, 900 min, unlimited text and internet plan for FREE, check it now on orange uk. In America, you have to pay 200, for the droid, and at the same time pay $30 just for data not including expensive per min plans. The big 4 continue a monopoly in America by leading people to think that they still have large numbers of maintenance fees for their equipment, but in reality they make nearly 85% profit from hefty charges, and still want you to pay for texting when it should really be for free, because it is for them. The American cell market is in the ****, really.
[Nexus One General] shata:
It wont auto cancel the other line, through the google site. It says my family plan does not qualify.

And i cant buy nexus one on different account cause i think google checks tmobile with social numbers.
[Nexus One General] shata:
Also on engadet now added link to first post.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
I am curious to get a confirmation that this method works...

I just paid for the unsub N1 because I am on a family plan. However I would have no problem sending it back and from what I understand:

1. get my line off the family plan

2. order the unsub phone with new contract

3. call tmo and have them put me back on the family plan

4. new contract for sub phone disappears and everything is back to normal and i just got a sub phone with NO change from what i had before

essentially this is a workaround to get the subsidized phone?
[Nexus One General] roteplex:
yes that is how this workaround can be put to use, note only your line on your old family line will have a contract agreement, and a data plan is still required so if you didnt have one before, add $30 to your plan. You can verify the method with tmobile.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
well that adds a bit of flavor to my situation of having paid for an unsubsidized phone already...
[Nexus One General] maxawesome:
Thanks for posting. Read & signed the petition.

This isn't T-Mobile's fault and the petition was worded towards TMO like they control Google's sales page. My comment in my signature was for TMO to pressure Google to change it's subsidized eligibility process to include customers in good standing for 22+ months (the standard upgrade eligibility period). Shouldn't matter if you're on a family plan or not. That's bull****.

I wanted to get this phone for myself and my wife, but it looks like that will have to wait for who knows how long now.

Sad -- this could have finally shut the iPhone crowd up.
[Wing, P4350 General] alicer:
Hello i tried to flash mine P4350 with at first Hard SPL , works fine after that place a custum rom, seems to works fine, but after a soft reset, NOTHING

even no LED activity. booting with holding camera button for 3 seconds, shows greens screen with ipl 1.08.0001 and 1.08.0001 and then is turns off..

IS this the end for the HTC????

Hello, ik can put a rom on the sd and boot it say illegal certificate?

Flashing from usb with romupdate utility says error 300 invalid update tool (rom update utility = 03.11.3.1)
[Wing, P4350 General] jdep1:
if u are abel to get to the tricolor screen im sure you could reflash to another ROM (maybe it was a bad ROM/bad download) try flashing a ROM using the sd card (if you dont know how to flash from sd card search on it firs its all over the forum) make sure your battery is higher than 50%. well good luck.
[Wing, P4350 General] ivanmmj:
Your SPL is not 4.0 or above. The HardSPL thread warns you against using the HardSPL on a SPL that low because it bricks the phone. You'll have to search for the Herald Goldcard method to revive the phone.

Other than that, this is not the right sub forum to ask those questions in.
[Wing, P4350 General] Saadmahmood:
Please I need help!!!

My rom flashing stucked on 80% over HTC herald and I had no other choice but to restart the phone and now its completely dead. tri color screen is not coming also.

Please help
[Wing, P4350 General] emde18:
I have 2 heralds which are having problems with turning on.

This is what works for me:

1) Take the battery out for 10 seconds

2) plug the charger into the phone

3) put battery back in the phone

4) press POWER button for 3 to 5 seconds

Try it few times - works for me fine, but not always !
[Nexus One General] Casao:
Did you buy a Nexus One? Have you received your shipping notification yet?

I bought mine right off the bat, already been charged, all has gone through successful, yet no shipping notification. People who ordered after me have gotten it though. Why?

I'm trying to figure out what the pattern is, so I'd like a little help. If you bought, could you post:

State:

Rough time purchased:

Shipping notification:

Hopefully we'll be able to figure out why some people got them, some people didn't.

I'll start:

State: Georgia

Time Purchased: ~1:40PM EST

Shipping Notification:[/n] No :(
[Nexus One General] mattyboy247:
Have you checked google checkout to make sure it hasn't been shipped already and just didn't email you?
[Nexus One General] jmannyjr33:
State:Texas

Time Purchase:1245pm Central Time

Shipping Notification: Shipped and Out for Delivery
[Nexus One General] nelson8403:
I got my notification at about midnight last night, I ordered it around noon. Got my phone call from FedEx this morning saying I have a package coming this morning.
[Nexus One General] CovrtNinja:
Ordered mine Jan 5, 2010 2:09 PM EST

Shipped to New Hampshire and is on the delivery truck right now.
[Nexus One General] Carloswithac:
Yep, check Google Checkout. My tracking number was there, but I didn't receive an e-mail.

State: California

Time Purchased: 10:41 A.M

No shipping notification, but out for delivery as we speak.

:)
[Nexus One General] Casao:
I've been checking Checkout every hour or so, not updated at all =/ Hoping it's just an error, since I know a few people who got shipped but it took hours to update the checkout page.
[Nexus One General] ikm19:
I got shipping confirmation but the order has not been picked up by fedex yet.. but still it shows i will be getting it on jan 6 by 3pm.. i don't know how..

Jan 5, 2010 11:08 PM

Shipment information sent to FedEx
[Nexus One General] icon57:
i just got my shipping notification, however it will arrive tomorrow by 4:30pm...i had to cancel my initial order which i placed at 1:30pm yesterday...i reordered the phone last night at about 10pm est
[Nexus One General] mark925:
Ordered yesterday at 10:59am PST. They finally shipped and gave me a tracking number this morning -- so it won't be here until TOMORROW.

I had one original order at 10:43am PST which I had cancelled.
[Nexus One General] lablunk:
I ordered mine at Order date: Jan 5, 2010 1:01 PM CST.

I just got a tracking email about two hours ago as well as an automated call from FedEx about one hour ago stating the package is to be delivered by 3:00pm CST.
[Nexus One General] Swervo:
I ordered mine at 11:47am PST on the 5th, it's now 7:33am on the 6th and no shipping update. My status page also still says that it's Not Yet Shipped. Rats.
[Nexus One General] student.driver:
In AZ, ordered at 1630 yesterday and received confirmation at 0530 today. Should arrive on the 7th (tomorrow). No engraving.
[Nexus One General] Casao:
Is everyone getting these calls? Are you having it shipped to a home or office?
[Nexus One General] Swervo:
And, as of 8:15am PST, I just got my shipping notice, will be delivered on the 7th by 3pm.
[Nexus One General] TaFFeR:
Ordered mine yesterday at 10:54 AM PST, but still no tracking number :(

I'm in the Bay Area and ordered it unlocked.
[Nexus One General] TaFFeR:
Just got the tracking number, but it's coming tomorrow :(
[Nexus One General] SANTilt:
Ordered: Jan 5, 2010 11:12 PST

State: CA

NO engraving

CC was charged immediately

Got an email at 545 today saying it will be here tomorrow "Jan 7, 2010 by 3:00 PM" That's 480 miles in two days... :rolleyes:

Apparently, when Google says "overnight" shipping, they mean it - they just don't tell you which night...

Edit: I just got the automated call from FedUp saying it will be delivered tomorrow by 1500.
[Nexus One General] nazforex:
Received mine this morning..... Very nice....
[Touch HD General] barryfell:
Anyone got any tips for getting a stylus in which the top part has snapped off of out of the magnetic stylus holder on the phone?

I bought some spare ones as I always lose them but upon using these spares I found they all suffer from the same problem, the plastic top and bottoms snap off very easily.

So now I have no stylus, but part of a stlyus stuck inside my phone.

Any help much appreciated.

Thanks
[Touch HD General] ClydeB1:
If you remove the battery cover you will see 2 sections where you can see the stylus. You use some long thin object and try to wedge it out.
[Touch HD General] barryfell:
Not on my phone there isn't.

I can see it in 1 place about half way up but the battery doesn't need to be off for that.

I can't think of anyway to get anything that is going to get any grip on it to get it out...
[Touch HD General] MasDroid:
Take the battery cover off, you'll be able to see the stylus in its sheath. Use a bit of sticky tape to grab the stylus and slide it up and out. Hope this helps.
[Touch HD General] berbecverde:
Put some super glue and put the stylus back.

I am very curious.

:D
[Touch HD General] GoldCoin:
Use tweezers :)
[Touch HD General] barryfell:
I think that may well have to be the way to do it.

I can't get any grip the other ways.

I'll try it!
[Touch HD General] telegraph0000:
Just remember that a little bit will go a long way...don't want to see a 'Super glued stylus stuck in phone' thread...
[Touch HD General] berbecverde:
Yes that is right.

Not too much glue if you want to try.

Keep us posted.:)
[G1 General] jubeh:
Title says it all. Comments in the YouTube page. I think I'll stick with Donut, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjsWWjh79oM
[G1 General] dwang:
Have you tried some other websites?

Engagdet seems to be quite javascript heavy.

Do you know what javascript engine is used in eclair? I haven't heard anything so I'm assuming it still uses the same squirrelfish engine as donut.

What about nytimes.com?
[G1 General] Shrivel:
Been my experience as well. The Eclair browser is noticeably slower than the old one.
[HD2 General] blanco360:
I've had a search, but couldn't find anything ..

Is there a way to make the HD2 say the callers name (if in phonebook) when an incoming call comes in and you are using a headset?

It's a pain to have to look at the phone all the time before knowing whether to press the "answer key" on the headset.

ROM 1.48 :)

Thanks!
[HD2 General] Archer:
Have a look here...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=416774

They're discussing doing that exact thing with MS Voice Command, but on a Diamond.
[HD2 General] blanco360:
Ahah.. great, thanks :)

Not sure if it's worth paying £30 though just to have someone tell me who is calling, lo.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Yeah, too right!

Maybe just record yourself saying the names of the more important people on your contact list and set the samples as ringtones for those people. You could do it for everyone on your list if you wanted to.

Not a perfect solution, I know, but it would work (and it's free ;))
[HD2 General] blanco360:
Haha - I guess.

What I really want though is it will only say the name if I am using the headset.

If the headset isn't plugged in, I don't want it announcing the callers name to everyone around me :)
[HD2 General] RamonPallaske:
I wondered. My trinity could do that. But it was due to a rom I got from here, I think.

Somehow it was a nice feature. But utterly scary at the first time.
[G1 General] s15274n:
I know you can put OS on a PS3.... Its likely not possible to load Android, but I thought it would be worth asking.

I know MIPS are coming out with android.... why not use my PS3 to use apps. Plus, I hate the PS3 browser.

edit: I did find this http://code.google.com/p/android-ps3/
[G1 General] CLLC:
It's a shame the dev gave up on it, It would be awesome to put it on any major games console really :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alfie196:
Can someone tell me what RIL is in the Hero?

G1 and Magic have libhtc_ril.so at 269404 bytes, can anyone confirm if its the same?

Does anyone know if the field test app is on the Hero?

Thnks, Ne0
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
no idea what you are talking about, but fwiw:

-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 399472 Aug 1 2008 /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alfie196:
Thanks, looks like the RIL is different from the Dream and Magic (For any one else that cares! ;) ) you couldn't pull that file and make it available for me to download could you?

Still waiting for my Hero and need to check what the RIL looks like ASAP!

Ne0
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
flip me a pm with your mail address and you shall have it in no time. oh, and please don't let me die a dumb man and tell me what it is for ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jdavis2037:
This is a thread for homescreens and mods for the new year

I will post my screens and mods after i get off work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] orb3000:
Welcome to forums

Nice idea but already is something almost identical here: :eek:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=531814

Don´t forget to vote for Rhodium!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jdavis2037:
these are my current apps running on my screen

these are my current apps running on my screen
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jdavis2037:
.....will post actual capture lata I promise !
[G1 General] emove:
Firstly i would like to say hello and happy new year.

Now to the point,

Yesterday I dropped my phone in the snow and it got a bit wet

I assumed it would be ok.

Few mins after this a received a call and couldn't hear the caller so i suspected that there was water in the receiver so i took my phone apart and tried to dry it out (even though i couldn't see any water in it)

The thing is when i put the phone back together it came to the bootloader and said no image file on a gray screen

I assumed that it was looking for a Dreaimg.nbh file

I put one on my sdcard and attempted to recover the device.

This looked to have worked initially but when i restarted the phone i was presented with a bootloader screen again with the red, green and blue bands saying "serial0".

I assumed that the device was looking for a ROM and couldn't find it so it took me back to the bootloader.

I went online and downloaded a rc8 update.zip

I restarted the phone again and went in to recovery mode (where you update with the update.zip) pressed "alt+l" then Alt+w and then alt+s to flash with my latest update. and tried to reflash the phone from recovery by pressing Alt+s this seemed to work initially but failed after the 2nd restart the process went like this.

Turn on phone press home key

I get a triangle ! and a phone so pressed Alt+l (to bring up the options)

pressed Alt+w to wipe the phone

pressed Alt+s to apply the update.zip

waited,

phone said it was done and press Home+back to reboot.

when i pressed Home+Back before the phone rebooted a message came up saying that it was flashing the radio (is this normal)

Phone rebooted to the G1 screen ]

Then on to a screen with the Microchip on it with a yellow and orange arrow stayed on there for a while and then rebooted again to the g1 screen then on to a screen with a status bar and a package with an arrow within a second the phone reboots and we go back to the bootloader.

This is all my phone will do

Please can some one help me with this I am an IT professional but this has me beat.

Thanks in advance Emove