yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Accessories] pathologo:
No no, that's not what I mean.

I mean, if some HK manufacturers are really able to make 1600mAh batteries, then Mugen Power definitely would also be able to make such high capacity batteries.

The fact that Mugen Power only made a 1300mAh battery is more or less a proof to me that all the 1600mAh batteries are pure fake.
[HD2 Accessories] lude219:
because they are. People are stupid with such delusion of grandeur that their so-called "1600mah" is performing better than stock ones :rolleyes: I mean, who needs facts and tests that have been done on these cheapo batteries when you can just FEEL that it's better!? But hey, whatever make them sleep better at night..
[HD2 Accessories] ilordvader:
This is the best option

Energizer XP2000

or

Energizer XP4001
[HD2 Accessories] A11-STAR:
Has anyone seen these Enso smartphones? They look very familiar to an HD2:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/31/enso-whips-up-two-smartphones-and-three-new-slates-but-we-would/
[HD2 Accessories] djunio:
Looks like it has a ffc too
[HD2 Accessories] pathologo:
And this has anything to do with this thread about batteries?
[HD2 Accessories] fi3ry_icy:
just to re-direct u guys to a battery thread on the t-mobile HD2 forum here on xda..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=715407&page=3

in particular, a post on that thread..

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7281557&postcount=23

the battery in question is actually the 1600mah Andida Battery..
[HD2 Accessories] fi3ry_icy:
I'm sorry if I got it wrong..

but it does goes to show that it is actually hard with current Li-ion technology to get a much higher than stock battery capacity for the battery size of the hd2..

better to be safe and get a battery which gives the rating it states than those cheap but lower than stated batteries..

I will most likely get a momax battery which is actually lower at 1100mah since it is much cheaper than the mugen 1300mah battery..
[HD2 Accessories] A11-STAR:
Well, the one that looks like the HD2 comes with a 1500mAh battery. Though it does look kinda chubby, I wonder if there would be a chance of it fitting into the HD2? Just speculation, of course.
[HD2 Accessories] Nelthalin:
I think you are talking about the EVO or the Desire HD. Both are 4.3" but a new design so i think they kept the flaw of the HD2 in mind and kept more room for a bigger battery.

95% sure it wont fit in your HD2.
[HD2 Accessories] nzxtneo:
Cool thread, saved me from wasting money on a battery from ebay!
[HD2 Accessories] sandoz101:
As I live in Beijing, I've decided to order some of the better quality HD2 batteries available in China. (Andida, Yoobao, dragonpie, 3.5G)

Andida is the cheapest of the four so I expect the others will be better.

Their range goes from : 1100mah, 1600mah, 1800mah, 1950mah

As soon as I've received them all I will try them and let you know the results.
[HD2 Accessories] fi3ry_icy:
1950mah?

like seriously??
[HD2 Accessories] sublimee:
i would be shocked if 1950mah could be done in the size of the standard battery!
[HD2 Accessories] lude219:
He lives in china, home of the fakes.
[HD2 Accessories] jparity:
hey, don't be stereotypical.
[HD2 Accessories] moooxooom:
Hmmmmm I'm surprised so many people would be willing to throw so much money down for batteries with little improvement (ala mugen).

By merely changing the phone radio and building my own rom, I extended my use time from 1 day to 2.5 days. 2.5 days consistently dropped to 2 days when I changed radio (all with 3G on 24/7, hourly weather and email updates, etc).

Those looking to improve their battery life significantly should really look at the software/rom/radio.

Better to just buy a cheap china batt (regardless of rating, it'll still give you as long battery life as the original), then spend the rest of the time/money doing up the radio/rom.. :D

BTW, all my "fake" china batteries all perform better than my stock despite having the same power ratings, but nowadays with my new rom+radio I don't even bring my extra batteries out anymore..
[HD2 Accessories] fi3ry_icy:
do u surf the net activately or do u just push mail and update stuff on the go?

web browsing eats up the battery alot unlike push mail and twitter, facebook and weather updates which is why i am having low battery life.. i serve the net using my phone very often..
[HD2 Accessories] ilordvader:
Which Rom & Radio do you have ?

Thanks
[HD2 Accessories] durban-2009:
Hi folks, just found your Forum, wow....some really good bits of info here!

I am also looking at an extended battery for my HD2, and came across this on the Bay:

A 2400maH battery with a cover!

Item number: 170526426673 (as I am new to the Forum)

Has anyone used or had one of these? I do alot of travelling for work, and my phone gets over-loaded with mail & calls, etc!

Some info would be appreciated.

Cheers
[HD2 Accessories] fi3ry_icy:
found some more cheap batteries but im not sure are they of the claimed capacity..

http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.hd2

on a side note, i'm wondering if these 3rd party batteries work with android anot because i have read over in the android development thread that some people could not boot into android when they are using 3rd party batteries..

as such, i have created a thread to ask other hd2 users for their feedback in the android general discussion forum.. ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=7833356 )
[HD2 Accessories] lusjash:
How cheap these things can get (2400 mAh = 12$)

Just search in ebay "hd2 2400" and you can get 2400 mAh battery + cover + shipping for 11,99$. Well, i know the quality of battery and cover will not be comparable to that of original or Mungen. But the math says that i can buy 5 of these instead of 1 from Mungen and change them every 3 month (if they last).

The question is - is it still worth?

For example after researching the subject (additional battery with a reasonable price and quality ratio) i ordered Andida battery (claimed 1600 mAh) as my spare one - paying 8.99 for a battery with quality comparable to original - sure it is worth?

So please, for the folks who would bump into this message (which is quite similar to some posted here :)) and who actually did buy 2400 from ebay - if you have bad experience - please reply and reassure my reasoning.

Thanks in advance
[HD2 Accessories] hx4700 user:
A post with so much promise, but no further posts from this member. A shame. Perhaps a report soon?
[HD2 Accessories] HTC-187:
If somebody has purchased a larger mah battery from somewhere can you please let us know:

A) what the mah is (i.e., 1500mah, 1600mah, etc)

B) the Brand/Where they bought it

c) a pic.. and actual user pic..

I want to upgrade this POS (piece of Sh#t) battery, but don't want to order one from china to wait 3-6 weeks just to be disappointed.

Thanks.
[HD2 Accessories] lude219:
Here's the report:

They're all fake and perform even worse than stock battery.
[HD2 Accessories] apallohadas:
Heh. I picked up 2 different aftermarket batteries on ebay. 1 is just a tiny bit large and I'm uncomfortable putting it in my phone.

The other is almost certainly less mAh than the stock battery, but it's a fair backup.

I'm going to pick up 1 or 2 more before the Xmas holidays since I'll be traveling.

Fair warning: aftermarket batteries can be super shoddy. If you feel your phone warming up and heat warnings go off, remove that crap.
[HD2 Accessories] rhacy:
+1 here, and this conclusion is after trying many aftermarket batteries on a half dozen HTC phones over the last five years. To clarify, the OEM has easily outperformed any of the cheap third party batteries here including Andida. Plus, the OEM did well even when tested against expensive high end Seidio and Mugen standard sized batteries. Check out http://batteryboss.org/ for actual battery test results. Moreover, you can pick up genuine HD2 OEM batteries on ebay via legit US sellers for around $12 shipped at this time.

Best to all,

R
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
But then again, here in the Netherlands an original battery will cost me 38 euro.

The guy from Hongkong asks 5 euro for a battery that with a little luck will perform at least as good as the original one. Now, I ask you, how should I weight those amounts and plot them against perfomance?

As for you other point, I don't think that batteries can nowadays do much harm. But I may be completely naive :) (Anyway, I have inscurance)
[HD2 Accessories] lude219:
If you are paying for phone insurance (I'm assuming monthly), why are you nitpicking about a one-time price of batteries? It's like me buying an expensive 60inch HDTV so I can watch DVD on it, because BluRay cost too much.

Well, whatever logic you have in justifying your battery purchase is none of our business, but Starfury made a good point that so many people here fail to understand. Yes, crappy batteries from China with non-existent QA do tend to mess with the phone's hardware, or worse, blow a hole right through it. Not all batteries are made the same way and certainly not all batteries are alike. So let's see, would I rather spend 5euro to have a $800 piece of brick (or in your case, send it back in) in case it blew/melt my phone, or spend the extra money for a 38euro and have my phone stay intact? For people like me who don't have insurance on our phones, the choice is easy.
[HD2 Accessories] Starfury:
In addition a lot of insurance companies will void your insurance when they find out that you were using a non-OEM part in your device which caused the problem. You may be thinking that you could just take it out and swap it back, but in the cases where the phone gets damaged by said battery you will find the battery will have likely either melted itself and the inside of the phone around the battery terminals (if you are lucky) or have set fire and melted your skin or whatever it was sat on at the time to the phone.

So if you want to chance it to get an extra 250mAh then shoot... :cool:
[HD2 Accessories] bzdemes:
I have always used cheap batteries and so far so good :D Touchwood my luck continues. Using a £4 battery from hong kong atm. I read a article(no idea where google!) a while back about cheap batteries vs expensive ones. They are all made in the same place some get expensive labels others don't. Of course you do have more guarantee when you buy an official battery so i understand why people do it. I guess I just like to live dangerously.

Any word on this 1500 battery turning up?
[HD2 Accessories] Starfury:
Dont get me wrong, if I could be 100% sure of the quality of the battery being the same as an official OEM one I would buy one. But as there is no way you can tell until its too late whether you are going to be lucky or not I would prefer not to chance it.
[HD2 Accessories] ClownShoes:
He's not nitpicking about the price of the battery. He's saying as he has insurance, it's worth the potential risk to get a battery that could be of a greater capacity than the one he currently has... probably isn't though :D
[HD2 Accessories] blanco360:
I bought my phone from the official HTC store and it came without an official HTC battery .....
[HD2 Accessories] Starfury:
I guarantee the insurance company wouldnt pay out if a non-OEM supported part caused damage to the device that required a claim.

Its like throwing the phone out of the window and claiming on the insurance because the screen cracked vs going for a run and accidently dropping it whilst trying to use it and the screen cracking.
[HD2 Accessories] ClownShoes:
I agree. I was just pointing out to Lude219 that appleflap wasn't just trying to get himself a cheap battery. The intention is, as always was to find us a greater capacity battery.
[HD2 Accessories] tmaniac:
And we need the bigger capacity with the same slim look of our beloved device :)

Very interested to hear the review when it arrives appelflap!
[HD2 Accessories] lude219:
That's not what I meant. If he's already throwing away money, say $10/mo, for phone insurance, why would he cheaps out on the battery? Anywho, whichever kind of batteries to tickle your fancy is why we're here on this board to find out. Though a little common sense goes a long way when you compare untested, unbranded battery from some unknown mfgs to respectable/OEM ones. We're not talking about household batteries where cheap ones (that are even certified and tested) are also produced by big name companies, we're talking about a very small market for mobile phone batteries where you don't know how it's made or who it's from. Now i'm not talking about Momax or Mugen, as those are widely respectable, but for the lesser known ones where they flock up on ebay, I don't know if I want to take that risk (having a few batteries with terminal melted myself).
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
I hear you. You're probably right, but nevertheless, since I have insurance why not experiment with a high capacity battery for that kinda money?

Of course, if the bat. had the same cap. as the original one, I would left it alone (I mean "phieips", hello.... :) ), but since it is only 5 euro /and/ it has more power, why not try it?
[HD2 Accessories] Hales:
price has gone up to USD9 inclusive of shipping
[HD2 Accessories] Ben86:
guys please do not believe that you get such a battery for that cheap. its always the same with every new phone. if there would be a real 1500ma it would cost about 50€.
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
I bet 5 euro that you are wrong :)
[HD2 Accessories] Hales:
Cheap might be bad but not all cheap are bad. What goes into a battery is the cell pack from an oem cell manufacturer and probably a smart chip/circuit board, that's all.

My concern is just whether the maker of the final product does enough testing and ensure that the product works well with the device. e.g. proper charging, overcharge cut-off..
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
Has that to be tested thoroughly with every new device or can they use experience with other devices/user. The Galilio (lol) compagny happens to make a whole range of phieips (lol) batteries for all kind of devices.

http://www.galilio.com.cn/products_en.asp
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
BTW the logo's and specifications on the package makes me believe it is a thoroughly tested product. It even has CE marking on it.

img
[HD2 Accessories] Hales:
Thanks for the link. I tried searching for PHIEIPS earlier to no avail.

The img you posted looks decent but the packaging is different from the ebay version
[HD2 Accessories] TeklAR:
@ appleflap

unfortunately the CE Sign says nothing, because every company can declare that for themselves. No one checks if the CE norms are the correct ones or if the product fullfills them. I am working in teh medical field, therefore I have seen many things which had CE and they were really not safe.

For this battery I have no Idea if it works. :-)
[HD2 Accessories] Q2V:
Hi all,

See all only on disscussion, by that ways will none-stop.

Why no one only pay less than 10$ to test?

I dont like only theory, will buy one 1500 bat. and report to you.
[HD2 Accessories] ClownShoes:
Because they're not available yet!
[HD2 Accessories] Drakknar:
Unfortunately I'm afraid that the CE logo printed on the battery box is not the one used in the European Union to check the quality and safety of the products, but it's the one created in China to deceive European customers, which is identical to the original one but simply means "China Export".
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
So I got me a Galilio, Phieips battery with a phony CE marking. I'm getting more curious every day. I can't wait for this surrealistic package to arrive.
[HD2 Accessories] Ben86:
well, it would be nice if that is a true 1500 batterie but just check every forum on xda, its always the same story. some companies think the way you do "well for only 5$ ill give it a try" but what you get for this cheap is probably a fake labled cheap batterie what can damage your device. I had this story with my diamond, same thing "original sized, more cap. and cheap". if you are lucky they relable an old original one from faulty devices or you just get china crap.

If you want a good batterie dont try to save money at this point. for some orientation take the price of the original batterie, if its dramticly cheaper be carefull.

thats the original one:

http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/de/p_htc_item.aspx?i=188135

there will be better batteries some time by trustfull companies.

Just in case if ecell uk from ebay shows up with a cheap batterie they only sell crap. i bought a batterie for my diamond from them but with that battery the diamond cant tell you how much power you have (0% - 100% for batterie live doesnt work) and other stuff.
[HD2 Accessories] ruscik:
First off all it is what you say to insurance company. Believe me even if you are on the legal, correct side if you say it worng they will instantly jump on that and try not to pay. So we too can play that game.

Also my TD2 fell out of my bag while I was riding a motorcycle on motorway (well over legla 60mph). My fault for not using recommended pouch or holder yet that does not matter. Insurance has nothing to say but to pay out as I have not on purpose dropped it to get HD2 ;)

Second off all as per EU law warranty and other services can not be cancelled if you use none manufacturer accesories and yes battery is a accesory. If you were to buy a replacement screen and all devices went horribly wrong they can say no but battery is not. Exception is Iphony and all other phones with built in batteries for obvious reasons.

I have been using those cheap batteries in laptops and phones for years now with no side effects. Most of them hold almost as good as stock battery of the same size, almost. Obviously there are bad and bad batteries. Tohse proper bad if you put them in to your device it has no idea how much power is left.
[HD2 Accessories] gregwee:
I just went to Apliu street yesterday, to buy a spare battery for my HD2. What's available now in the shops are two different brands of 3rd party batteries. Original HTC batteries for the HD2 were nowhere to be found in the shops. The two brands that are available now are: Speedy and Imox. I believe both are manufactured in China by a Hong Kong based companies, and targeted for the Japan market, due to the Japanese words on the packaging.

The Speedy battery is listed to have a capacity of 1000mah. The Imox is listed to have 1100mah. The cheapest prices I found were as follows: Speedy battery was HK$98, and the Imox was HK$138. An external charging cradle that plugs in using MicroUSB cable was also available for HK$60. After bargaining, I ended up buying the Speedy 1000mah battery + charging cradle for HK$150. :) I've just charged it up, and will be using it today to see how it performs.

From talking to the guys at the shops, other 3rd party batteries will be coming, but it won't be so soon, probably 1+ to 2 months later. According to the guys I talked to, 3rd party batteries will almost always be less capacity than the original manufactured battery, and those that advertise higher capacity tend to have their real capacity exaggerated.
[HD2 Accessories] Q2V:
Hi all,

I bough this battery http://www.netimes.com/shop/replacement-battery-for-htc-hd2-t8585-htc-leo-p-2449.html?cPath=80_731

On the battery has printed 1300mAh. I'm using it for 2 weeks.

For long lasting compare it's 80% of original HTC battery.

With the cheap price, its ok for 2nd emergency replacement battery.
[HD2 Accessories] cch.angus:
I got one 1500mAh battery from Taiwan which is pretty good. I think it is real 1500mAh and standard size.
[HD2 Accessories] jarbi:
I have also ordered one, just waiting for delivery. Good to hear that it works :-).
[HD2 Accessories] liamR:
Did you compare it to the original battery ?
[HD2 Accessories] str0g:
hard to belive, how much battery drains over the night?
[HD2 Accessories] cliq:
This is available on ebay :)
[HD2 Accessories] Jackuuuuu:
please report the result and quality! !
[HD2 Accessories] cch.angus:
Yes, I am a quite heavy user, if I use the original one, I need to recharge every day, but for the replacement one, I can use it about 1.5 day (That means I can recharge it after my lunch in the second day).
[HD2 Accessories] tmaniac:
perhaps its worth the try then :)...i'd like to be able to have my push mail anabled and not have to recharge every 20 hours :P

atm i have my activesync sync every 15 minutes...saves a bit battery but not much :(
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
OK, the mailman delivered a package from Hongkong this morning. I wanted to do an unboxing video, but I was so excited that I immediately teared the package open. Sorry!

The battery fitted without any problems in the HD2 and the HD2 started without any problems. So there you go, no polar issues, no wrong design or fake, everything seems ok. I removed the battery as quickly as I could and placed it in a external charger that I had bought from ebay as well, and charged it. Now with a full charge i'm going to test it under real life conditions.

Maybe you guys (especially the nay-sayers) can give me some tips about how to test this battery. Should I measure the battery's currency in an electo-store (I don't have the equipment.)?

BTW the battery doesn't have the funny PHIEIPS brand name on it. Oh well, you can't get everything for $7....
[HD2 Accessories] Starfury:
Regarding the second point whilst you may be correct in the fact that they can't cancel the warranty for using non-oem equipment, if the non-oem equipment (in this case the battery) caused the unit to fail (by way of melting the battery terminals and causing permanent damage) then they do not have to honour your warranty because the modification you made directly caused the problem.
[HD2 Accessories] tibidul:
With a difference of more 270 mah, I'm not sure we will have a real gain.
[HD2 Accessories] dagrim1:
Ah well, in the worst case it's a cheap extra battery and in the best case you get a few more hours of juice as well :)

Anyway, just ordered one myself (battery and charger) since it's hard not to for that price ;)
[HD2 Accessories] alibobz:
So has it died yet?
[HD2 Accessories] appelflap:
Not yet! But I'm not very pleased with the performance of the battery. Up until now, it seems even worse than the standard battery. But I postpone my judgment. I will use it for a couple of days and give it the benefit of the doubt (and a couple of charging cycles).
[HD2 Accessories] UncleBeer:
I got one of these as well, and put it into service last night. Without really careful observation, I can say the performance seems comparable to the original battery.

Also, mine fits a bit more snugly into the compartment, but it still fits.

A relatively satisfied customer. :)
[HD2 Accessories] Hales:
does the battery charge properly via the HD2 and is the battery meter working accurately?
[HD2 Accessories] xmoo:
Use the HTC Battery tool.

It can log the drain, and also tell you the real size, temperature etc etc....
[HD2 Accessories] UncleBeer:
Not a scientifically quantifiable observation, but from my general impression, I'd say the answer to both questions is "yes".
[HD2 Accessories] ruscik:
Ok found it. My cheap battery that came with cradle that is apparently 1200mAh is 1300mAh ;)
[HD2 Accessories] spyrale:
i received the battery, size is identical to original, though is lighter. capacity is not reported on the battery. now is charging, i will report back about duration.
[HD2 Accessories] fuxl66:
Can somebody provide me a link to this tool?
[HD2 Accessories] fards:
here you go..

it installs into /startmenu/tools
[HD2 Accessories] itoYo:
got my battery today, the htc battery test tool indicates 12296mAh for both the official battery and the one bought from the first post!

12296mAh doesnt make sense tho! there is one too many digits making the batt 12Ah! thats crazy!

just hope it performs as well as the original! will post back in a few days
[HD2 Accessories] edsiu:
Just got my Galilio (lol) plus cheap charger set from ebay item no. 260537623595 (n00b here not allowed to post links :P)

Can definitely confirm it fits fine into the batt slot. Have only used it once and first impressions are charging and usage are both fine, comparable to original so far.

Fingers crossed!