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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] joerg.rahe:
feature request = whishlist

Hello Stuart,

... here is my personal whishlist for the next versions of navmi. :p

+ choose font size on sports screen, because too much "wasted space" on a 320x320 display

-> screenshot "Sport-Screen"

=> bigger ones would be better to be seen on a 320x320 Display (= TreoPro)

+ choose number/art of displayed kinds of sports (checkboxes in the settings)

(e.g. only "jogging" or only "wintersports")

=> better usability for people doing only one/few kinds of sports

+ choose number/kinds of displayed items on details screen, because for me its a little bit too much on a 320x320 display

-> screenshot "Detail-Screen"

=> only a few selected ones would be better to be seen on a 320x320 Display

+ individual settings "speed-display" for each kind of sport:

I would like to choose in the settings for speed-range whether to display the speed in digital numbers (like pace) or as a speedometer.

(e.g. I would choose speed for biking "digital" and speed for car-driving as a speedometer)

=> speed for biking in digital numbers would increase the visibility extremly

+ individual settings to "disable phone buttons" for each kind of sport:

I would like to choose for each kind of sport, whether to lock the phone-buttons or not, instead of global settings like in version 1.0.8

(e.g. I would prefer to lock the phone-buttons while jogging, carrying the PDA in my pocket, to prevent from unwanted actions. While riding bicycle I would like to have unlocked phone-buttons to switch different displays/functions, carrying the PDA fixed at the handlebar)

=> with individual settings you wouldn´t have to change the global settings e.g. for each new use for biking vers. jogging

+ userdefined hardwarebutton to toggle with a userdefined app (e.g. MediaPlayer), even with activated option "disable phone buttons during GPS tracking"

=> ability to use/select mediaplayer (songs + volume) while tracking GPS-signal

Thank you for working at this great app. :)

Greetings Jörg
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
Thanks for all the feedback

Will definitely look to do something to improve the UI for your screen dimensions!

This weekend I've mostly been testing and reviewing the elevation code - there's definitely something odd in the results I see - but I can't spot any code errors...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] joerg.rahe:
elevation value in the graph view not corrected

Hello Stuart,

...when you´re working at the elevation code, there´s one more "little" thing:

(its really not important, but may be its helpful for debugging your code error....) :)

In the settings you can set a value to adjust the deviation.

- In the "detail view" you´ll see the corrected value. => ok

- In the (optional) included values for export (gpx) = corected values => ok

- But in the "graph view" you see the plotted uncorrected values => not ok

Greetings Jörg
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flyforfun:
hello,

how about the possibility of turning gps only every xx seconds ON?

It seems , that gps is always on and therefor drains the batt very quickly.

In original gps-cycle-computer i found a setting "GPS activity; run every xx sec". In Navmi i didn't find anything similar.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alex__:
Hello Stuart,

I am a navmi user, and it is so far my favorite sport tracker.

Keep this really good job and do not hesitates to contact me for testing and/or code checking (i'm developper) if you need that.

I am experiencing also the elevation problem.

Please find below a nicetohave wish :

- In the Diary, it would be very great to record some information about:

average speed, maximum speed, elevation up, elevation down

plus:

thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chrysokomas:
if this behaviour is really a gain in terms of power consumption (e.g. for walking or hiking, where it will be probably enough to record a GPS-Signal every 15 or 30 seconds), i'd really appreciate this feature, too!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stuart.tavener:
another vote for this.:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthieu60:
Export GPX/KML

Hi Stuart,

Thank you for your job, i use navmi each week-end (running, cycling and skiing this week).

i have just little suggestions for export files (kml and GPX)

1/ Before with GCC (GPS Cycling Computer) we have the elevation in the .KML export file as:

<coordinates>

2.0441618833,49.0546618518,123

123 is the elevation

Can you add this in the Navi .KML file export?

2/ In the .GPX, GCC export the speed as:

<trkpt lat="49.2854576111" lon="2.8446183205">

<ele>57</ele>

<time>2008-12-30T15:14:32Z</time>

<speed>28.8</speed>

</trkpt>

see the tag <speed> in km/h or miles/h for example.

Can you add this in your GPX?

3/ Other remark: in the .kml, GCC add in the header some informations:

- distance, total time, min/max speed, average speed

- first longitude and latitude to center the track on a map (I use it on my web site)

see an example of a GCC header in a .KML

<Placemark>

<name>27/01/09 12:19:17</name>

<Style id="yellowLineGreenPoly">

<LineStyle>

<color>ffff0000</color>

<width>4</width>

</LineStyle>

<PolyStyle>

<color>7f00ff00</color>

</PolyStyle>

</Style>

<description>

9,11 km 00:47:34 ex stop

2,5 11,5 15,0 km/h

battery 32% 0h22m left

</description>

<styleUrl>#yellowLineGreenPoly</styleUrl>

<LookAt>

<longitude>2.0441618833</longitude>

<latitude>49.05466185</latitude>

<altitude>0</altitude>

<range>3000</range>

<tilt>0</tilt>

<heading>0</heading>

</LookAt>

<LineString>

<altitudeMode>absolute</altitudeMode>

<coordinates>

2.0441618833,49.0546618518,123

Can you add this in the navmi kml?

4/ We can add some significative waypoints for example in the GPX/KML:

- one waypoint at the beginning of the track

- one waypoint at the end of the track

- one waypoint when the track is at the maximum elevation

- one waypoint when the track is at the min elevation

- one waypoint when the track is at the maximum speed

- one waypoint when the track is at the min speed

Thanks you for these.

Best regards

Matthieu L
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drjim:
Fuze/VGA?

Sorry if this has been asked before, but will this work on Fuze/VGA?

I use GPSCycleComputer and love it. Would be a great update.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthieu60:
OK an VGA device

Hi,

i use a HTC Diamond (VGA) and Navmi works perfectly. I think HTC Fuze is a HTC touch pro (same as a Diamond but with a keyboard).

You can use Navmi.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drjim:
Any bugs so far?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] delimar79:
Did anyone try to run this app in a touch pro 2?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RDevil63:
Me too, woulde be nice if could add this.

GPSCycleComputer had this too.

Greets

RDevil63
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chrysokomas:
i'd really appreciate this...! did the developer already responded to our wish? would it be possible to implement it and is he willing to at least consider this feature?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] andyw_wydna:
non-UK installer

Hi Stuart,

I was just about to download the latest version of NAVMI when I noticed the message that the installer is for non-UK use, and the message on the homepage from 24th Feb:

"As of today, this site is for non-UK users only.

An alternative site will be available for UK users in the near future.

Thanks for your understanding."

I don't understand....:)

I really like NAVMI, and discovered that my HTC HD2 decided not to record anything with the screen turned off (first time on the bike in a while, and a new phone to boot!).

Will 1.0.6 not install correctly on UK phones, or has the UK done something to offend you? ;)

Cheers,

Andy
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zzleezz:
Hey Andy,

I asked the same thing earlier today on the Navmi site and the reason given there was that there is a copyright issue in the UK. Hollywoof is looking at changing the naming for UK use.

I downloaded it anyway and it works fine on my Touch HD, although have not had a chance to test it in real world conditions (dont think 5 mins on the car dashboard counts ;) )

Going to take it out on a ride tomorrow (time permitting) and see how well it works.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] roma:
So far I haven't had an accurate distance yet. I ran the same route about 7 times and 7 different distances were the result. About 2 of them were correct, but not exactly. The last run had GPS drops the whole course. I think the GPS part needs some work. Running this course with different software gives a more accurate and consistant result.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] veryalien:
I have a problem running navmi, it doesn't seem to find the GccGPS.dll.

I get a missingMethodException can't find pinvoke dll GccGPS.dll.

The dll is installed correctly with the other files from the cab.

I can run GPSCycleComputer on the same device without any problems! I've also been using the navmi version of the GccGPS.dll with a self-made GPSCycleComputer app (built from the source), so there is apparently nothing wrong with the navmi dll itself.

What could be going wrong? Is it the way the main navmi app is built? I've seen a few comments on the net where the wrong platform for the build could be causing the pinovke error (but I'm no expert).

For the record I have an T-Mobile MDA Pro running wm5. It's a German rom version so programs in the main memory go into \Programme and the storage card is under \Speicherkarte\Programme, but I don't think the path is the problem.

I have an external bluetooth gps.

GpsCycleComputer is working perfectly and is installed on the sd card, so I don't understand why navmi is having a problem.

Has anyone got any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
Hi All

Really sorry I've been out of touch for awhile.

The main reason is.... I've been having problems with navmi.... and navmii....

There's a UK company called GeoLife and they have a car thing called navmii. They've been politely but insistently talking trademarks and stuff that I really don't have time for right now.... Nothing nasty - it's a genuine accidental name clash and everything's been very cordial and polite.

Anyways... the news is that:

- I am working on yet a couple more tweaks for navmi to try to get it through the Microsoft approval process

- I'm still hunting for an elevation issue - still very odd behaviour I'm seeing

- navmi will definitely get a new name in the UK and I might look at renaming it internationally too!

Again sorry it's been so quiet - but I've been kept busy.

Stuart
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
Roma - can I ask if you're seeing these problems when you use the set the GPS setting to Auto rather than to a specific COM port.

I'm working on changing this part of the pipeline completely - the elevation problem just keeps coming back!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] roma:
Will give it a try hollywoof and I'll let you know the result.

[offtopic]

Maybe SportsNav as a name? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acidd:
sportsnav sounds good to me :D

sportsgps.. sporttracker... . hmm.. i will think about more names when i am at work. there will be more time for that things :p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] be_on_edge:
Hello there,

this navmi looks very promising.

I did try it quickly today while going to work and i found a little issue.

When u activate the photo button on the map page, it starts the camera application in my htc diamond (windows mobile 6.0). When i close the camera application it back to navmi, but the standard windows mobile toolbar wont disappear.

That make the navmi less efficient.

As the photo/mapdownload button, i can provide u some more stylish icons if needed. Let me know and i will upload them.

Francesco.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] smack:
Hi hollywoof and everybody,

I have a strange problem with this fantastic piece of software: Whenever I start it in the "walking" modus, it reports a speed min/km of 59:59 and an average (avg) of 59:59.

This does not happen when starting it e.g. in the cycling modus. Does anybody have had this experience?

Regards,

smack
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
smack - walking (and running) are set up to show pace rather than speed

So if it shows 19:23 then that means that you are walking at 19 minutes 23 seconds per km or per mile - and a pace of 59:59 is like 0.0 speed.

If you'd rather see speed then you can set that up in the settings - each sport has it's own settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
be_on_edge/Francesco - thanks for the problem report and for the offer of icons.

In between the day job, some changes to runsaturday and this rebranding noise, I'm trying to work out how I'll rebuild navmi with new icons and maybe some changes to screen layout too - so I'd be very interested in your thoughts about how to change the icons - I definitely am not stylish.

One thing I've thought about is whether to try to use http://glyphish.com/ icons.

Thanks again :)

Stuart
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] smack:
Thank you for your quick reply to a rather dumb question :-) Great App.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthieu60:
Hi Stuart,

i don't know if you have seen my post (15th March 2010) about export GPX/KML file.

i purpose to add some informations (already stored with GCC version) in export file.

In KML file:

- Elevation

- distance, total time, min/max speed, average speed

- first longitude and latitude to center the track on a map (I use it on my web site)

I put an example of a GCC header in a .KML in my previous post

In GPX file:

- speed

Thanks you for the best tracker software !

Matthieu
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
Thanks M - understood

I'll make sure most (all?) of those get in the next release of ... whatever it's called :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Chrysokomas:
I'm really looking forward to the next release and I'm really interested in what benefits it will bring us next...!!

Thanks hollywoof for all your great work and effort!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] be_on_edge:
Tha was exactly the style of icons im thinking about. If you need any help just drop me a line.

Any plans to have more maps options ? Something like googlemap/google earth maps would be very cool.

Francesco
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
I'd love to add Google maps - but there are licensing problems - you're just not allowed to cache their tiles...

I'd better get back to dev studio - got lots to write :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] exhbc:
Tilt2

Works great on my HTC Tilt2

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] roma:
Tried it hollywoof, but do not get a fix. Restored the setting to COM7. I'm playing with the autopause setting and pause sensitivity (what's exactly the difference here?) now to get a more accurate measurement. But still it's not very accurate.

How is development going right now?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
Thanks

Development's both OK and slow - I've got a version that I've stripped out lots of the pipeline from (so that I use more raw values)

I need to test it - which I will do this coming week (after Easter) - I need the excuse for a run! I've also got a big new package going live on runsat - with lots more heart rate training in there.

I've also also also been playing with MonoTouch which takes Microsoft code and builds it for something called an iPhone - so I may get something released on that Apple thing too.... well, I can dream!

Sorry it's been a bit slow - just work and life getting in the way!

Stuart
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] roma:
Sorry hollywoof, I'm back to RUN.GPS for now. Navmi is way to inaccurate. I can not rely on it, I get different readings every time on the same course. I'll keep an eye on development. Good luck with the development, see you again in a few releases.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] knevski:
I can't get uploading to work. I've made account to runsaturday, and when i upload event from navmi in my mobile, it says "activity uploaded", but there appears nothing in runsaturday. What have i made wrong?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
There's stuff showing on runsat, knevski - http://www.runsaturday.com/Profile/Blog/UserName/knevski - so I guess you've worked it out!

Meanwhile.... the good news is this code is open again - I'm working on it.

I've just fixed a bug in the decimation code for the charts.

Now I'm working on the UI changes.... and I'm trying to get some information about how to stop the screen rotating - so it can finally appear on the MS App store (although to do so I do have to do things like add a notice saying "downloading data may cost you money" - oh joy!)

And I'm looking at how to make this open source again (maybe code project?) - especially as I've had one request from someone who wants to help.

Expect more in the next few days :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
And I will go back through lots of the requests on here - like the requests for some power saving features and for some things like elevation in kml outputs.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] knevski:
Thanks for reply. So it seems i just can't use this... I can see my events only by clicking this link? When i go to runsaturday web page and login with my account, i can't see/find any of these.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
Once you've logged into runsat then just click on "Profile" - like you might in Facebook) - that's your "Page" with a whole load of options down the left.

I am working on usability - so all feedback/advice like that is appreciated
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
I've been testing some changes to the core engine - mainly removing lots of the filtering and smoothing. So far, 50:50 results - one perfect cycle, one very bad run (I think this was partly caused by an incoming phone call)

I'm now also looking at some ideas of changing the smoothing or of dropping the sampling rate down to 5 or 10 seconds for the recorded files - just to avoid some of the obvious speed and location jitter I'm seeing on my Samsung when I record once a second.

More soon - I'm running or cycling every day now so I'm getting more test data.

I've also seen my first in-the-flesh WP7 phone today (at Microsoft UK Tech Day) - not 100% sure about the new UI - it certainly looked striking but not sure...

Stuart
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] starbase64:
Hi,

i have a little question.

Is it possible that the pause button flashing, if the pause mode is active?

Then I can see the pause mode is active.

with friendly greet

starbase64
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
I'll add that to the todo list, starbase - especially as I'm redesigning buttons.

Currently I'm focussing on trying to get a good balance between reliable distance update and a smooth GPS track alongside a responsive UI. I've tried some timing tweaks - but am now actually looking at douglas peucker as a post processing step. It's interesting... but I'm also wondering if maybe I'm over-complicating things... will keep looking at it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] look9001:
Hi Hollywoof,

I used navmi for the first time the other day on my samsung omnia i900. I don't really have anything useful to add at this time but just wanted to say thanks, I think it will be a really useful app for me.

Cheers,

Tom
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] damikey:
This is perfect for my Sun Run in vancouver. Thank you for your hard work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] starbase64:
Hi,

please insert in next version a function for merge two or more files in one file.

Then is exporting to kml simply.

with friendly greet

starbase64
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
Thanks for the feedback

I'm not focussing on adding features right now.

Instead, I'm still struggling with getting the basics better - especially with trying to improve the GPS processing pipeline.

I've tried:

- reducing the sensitivity of the got lock/lost lock mechanism

- dropping the GPS sampling rate down from once a second to once every 3, 5 or 10 seconds (when cycling this means perhaps once every 30m, 50m or 100m, when running it means perhaps once every 10m to 30m)

- adding another UI timer to make sure the clock still updates even when the GPS distance isn't ticking.

I've had some odd results on my test rides - so am not releasing these changes yet...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
There are a few kml merge tools out there, I think.

But I will add this to runsat at some point somehow - the backend is OK - it's mainly a UI thing!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] look9001:
Perhaps this is useful to you?

http://www.codeproject.com/KB/mobile/WritingGPSApplications2.aspx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] starbase64:
Hi,

i have an idea for the next version.

Layers for importet kml files, then is route sharing possible.

with friendly greet

starbase64
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bulderhart:
Say what?

I tried Navmi this morning on my Omnia2 with WM6.5.5. Works like a charm! When I lock the screen it keeps running and power consumption seems very reasonable to me.

Stupid question: what is the voice saying to me? "Two-thirty-five". I have no clue. I looked in this thread and on navmi.mobi and Runsaterday but could find any information.

And also, is there a way to switch the voice off? My friends already think I'm a weird geek...

Looking forward to your future work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hankeys:
GMT time

i have problem with my timezone or somethig. I am GMT plus 1, when the time is 20:26, the UTC in info is 18:26 and this bad time is in GPX files.

In GPS Cycle computer i have no problem.

Is fix possible?

THX for this great app

and is there any chance to add in config to "NOT TO TURN OFF BACKLIGHT"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
What timezone are you in hankeys? I've checked through and we're calling the right UTC code. Runsat says you are in Czechia - which is currently UTC+2? (similar to BST+1 or GMT+2)

I'll add BACKLIGHT to the long todo list - will have to find the right power setting (I guess you could also set this up in your general phone settings)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
The voice is annoucing your lap time - in minutes and seconds.

You can turn it off in the app settings - disable "on Laps" on the "Sounds" page.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jfoxh:
Zephyr HxM support?

very nice.

Can you include heart rate with the Zephyr BT HxM?

zephyr-technology.com/hxm.html

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] look9001:
$500

:eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rs1990:
I seem to be having problems getting this to work when my backlight goes off, the screen locks, and S2U2 goes on. Here is what I do:

1) Turn on Navmi and go into the walking/hiking activity

2) Wait for a GPS lock and then hit the play button

3) Lock the screen with the button on top (HTC Touch Pro)

4) Wait 5 mins, turn the screen back on, slide to stop S2U2

5) See that only 42 seconds have ticked off

I have turned off auto-pause, so I don't think that it is trying to pause. Does the GPS turn off when the screen locks causing it to stop counting?

Any other ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hollywoof:
HTC's seem to like shutting down the GPS when you push the screen lock button.

To get around this, there's a "Show backlight off button" option on the "System" Settings - if you use that off button instead of the hardware lock, then hopefully the app will keep working.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] matthieu60:
Hi rs1990,

you can add navmi in the S2U2 exception list. During tracking, use the backlight off button in navmi. I use this and it works perfectly on my HTC Diamond

Matthieu
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rs1990:
Thanks to both of you...I'll try that (didn't even realize there was an exception list in S2U2).