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[Windows Mobile Software Development] babbelut:
Hello all,

i've created a rom from a kitchen but I have a serious problem ...

I changed nothing but now my kitchen seems not to work anymore... It just creates bad roms...

I asked my mentor, Shady, how to fix this and he fixed it. He told me it has something to do with memory, with recmodding, ... but I didn't understand him.

Now, the problem is back, and I still cannot fix it by myself.

Can someone please help me, or teach me how to do this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] keanxsoul:
Hello,

Here is my issue, i have the latest TAEL Sense ROM from December. My phone just hard reset when i put it on charge while it's powered ON. This has happen on 3 occasions and does not occur when the phone is OFF and charging.

Here is what happenned the last time. Battery was low, just plugged the phone in for charging, came by after 1 hour and saw a miss called, tried to get to the call history screen, but impossible, HTC Touch Sense was not responding.

I was able to get to the windows 6.5 application menu while using the HOME button. Then I used the reset shortcut to reboot the mobile.

Took a long time to reboot(Normal boot screen) and then gave me the Stylus configuration screen, and booted up again to configure TAEL sense rom.

Then everyting gone, contacts messages,... like a fresh HARD RESET...

Does anybody have a clue why this happen ?

Could there be some issue with my battery charger ? or USB Cable ? :confused:

Or is this a ROM related issue.

Thanks for your feedback on this one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RussianBear:
thanks for the heads up, man. pretty much the same as in my thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=613653

and i did forget to mention that both times it hard-resat itself, it was charging as well.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RussianBear:
update: it resat itself when i got to work this morning, after being on charge all night.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] borisku:
same here 2 month ago with new Romeos: HR while charging...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RussianBear:
did you solve it? any patterns?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] keanxsoul:
Charging successful when mobile is OFF

Last night, i put my mobile on charge all night while it was switched off. when i booted it this morning, everything seems working fine... no resets...

There might be something going on with some applications that are installed on the mobile ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RussianBear:
all i had: calendar and contacts backup. t-mobile mms size fix cab, fuze keyboard fix cab. try leaving it on while charging!

disabled touch flo, put it on charge - nothing so far.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RussianBear:
no resets so far - disabled the touch flo. any other feedback?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RussianBear:
never mind: put it on charge earlier today and once i opened the keyboard the theme layout changed to stock, so i assume it's going to hard-reset once again :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] keanxsoul:
2 resets in one day

There has been 2 resets, yesterday night... i have tried to disabled HTC Sense and install Mobile Shell. but the OS was really unstable and when i rebooted was already hard reset... i wasn't charging the phone... :( seem to me, that this is an issue at the windows mobile 6.5 level... i'll post a link on Tael Roms page, maybe other persons have the same issue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RussianBear:
flashed back to stock 6.1 - no problems so far.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] toadlife:
I've had the exact same problem, but with my Touch Pro 2. I started a thread here, but got no replies so far. I'm wondering if something in custom ROMs is causing this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RussianBear:
that's what it looks like. since reverting back to stock 6.1 no resets whatsoever. knock.knock.knock. :)
[General Topics] dcarr622:
Based on what Microsoft is showing at CES, it appears that 23091 might be the official "shipping build" of 6.5.3.

If that's the case, I wonder what all the 28XXX builds are for? Anyone know any details on this?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/microsoft-windows-mobile-6-5-3-shown-off-very-very-quietly/h
[HD2 General] manilla:
I have bought a Sandisk 16GB microSDHC Mobile Ultra (SDSDQY-016G-E11M) which has been sold as a class 4 card. :)

The label on the card itself show's the number "2" in a circle and even the back of the original package describes class "2". :rolleyes:

So now I'm confused a little bit what quality and speed I've got for my Euro 59,- ???

anybody has an idea what's going wrong with this Sandisk article number???

thanks for help

manilla
[HD2 General] lee1980:
hi.

actually what i can tell you is that the

sandisc even class 2 ist sufficient at least to me. I've bought one last month and am very happy with it. music and video playback fast enough. . i do have also ps1 emulator and lots of roms running without any problems. i've seen a benchmark at some place that its also far better in terms of read/write then the normal class 2 cards are used to be...

so don't worry about the class but about the price you may need to chase the shop what that means because the 59 euro is a big high if class 2. I paid ca. 35 euro at amazon.de last month.

cheers

lee
[HD2 General] band27:
SD Speed Class Ratings

SD Cards and SDHC Cards have Speed Class Ratings defined by the SD Association. The SD Speed Class Ratings specify the following minimum write speeds based on "the best fragmented state where no memory unit is occupied"

* Class 2: 2 MByte/s - 13x

* Class 4: 4 MByte/s - 26x

* Class 6: 6 MByte/s - 40x

There also high performance versions of each class that go beyond the specifications.

Example

: Class 6 can go as high as 20mb/s

Take a look <<HERE>>
[HD2 General] manilla:
the price at Amazon for same 16GB Sandisk card today is Euro 55,95, but

what confusing me is the class sign shows the number "4" on Amazon's site and has the same Sandisk part number as my's, and

my card show's the number "2" in the class sign.

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001RMAM1W/ref=s9_simz_gw_s0_p23_t1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0AQB24WNV9RQ8DMDFKBK&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375173&pf_rd_i=301128

manilla
[HD2 General] Appelsap:
I've done some testing with different class cards, and posted the results in another thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5169187&postcount=41

In short, for read speeds in the HD2, it makes no difference which type of card you have, so it really doesn't matter.
[HD2 General] lee1980:
Actually upon on the product desciption the card itself is class 2, isn't it?

"original SanDisk Markenware, Erstausrüsterqualität Geschwindigkeitsklasse 2, minimal Schreibgeschwindigkeit 4MB/s inkl. MobileMate Micro Card Reader"

I guess its only in combination with that reader possible to get 4 MB. The card itself is marked as class 2.

Well and the difference in price is reasonable as you have the reader pack. I went for the one without the reader: http://www.amazon.de/SanDisk-microS...Handelsverpackung/dp/B001F7AJKI/ref=pd_cp_pc_

Cheers,

LEE
[HD2 General] manilla:
SanDisk 16GB Mobile Ultra microSDHC Card Review (SDSDQY-016G-A11M) class 4

=====================================

Feb 28, 2009

The 16GB SanDisk Mobile Ultra microSDHC memory card is the only class 4 speed rated card in the market for this size and it proved that you can have a fast microSDHC card with a large capacity!

Sandra Removeable Storage Benchmark Write Test Result

===========================================

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/914/2/

256MB Files test ...12,80 MB/s

64MB Files test ....11,73 MB/s

2 MB Files Test .... 7,97 MB/s

256 KB Files Test .... 5,92 MB/s

Sandra Removeable Storage Benchmark Read Test Result

===========================================

256MB Files test ...17,07 MB/s

64MB Files test ....18,13 MB/s

2 MB Files Test .... 18,33 MB/s

256 KB Files Test .... 17,24 MB/s

Have installed SiSoftsandra to check the benchmark of the bottom Sandisk 16GB microSDHC, which I bought as class 4 one for Euro 59,-

I used the included one cardreader from SanDisk package!

SanDisk 16GB Mobile Ultra microSDHC "SDSDQY-016G-E11M" (Class 2)

===================================================

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001RMAM1W/ref=s9_simz_gw_s0_p23_t1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0AQB24WNV9RQ8DMDFKBK&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375173&pf_rd_i=301128

Sandra Removeable Storage Benchmark Write Test Result

===========================================

256MB Files test ...8,53 MB/s

64MB Files test ....7,47 MB/s

2 MB Files Test .... 3,50 MB/s

256 KB Files Test .... 2,20 MB/s

Sandra Removeable Storage Benchmark Read Test Result

===========================================

256MB Files test ...17,07 MB/s

64MB Files test ....18,13 MB/s

2 MB Files Test .... 17,97 MB/s

256 KB Files Test .... 15,46 MB/s

so I can't believe that the Sandisk microSDHC 16GB "SDSDQY-016G-E11M" is äquivalent to a class 4 card and for Euro 59,- to much expensive,

although this card is sold as class 4 card!!!

http://www.ditech.at/artikel/MSC16G...icroSDHC_Card_16_GB_SanDisk_Mobile_Ultra.html

The shop is selling both, the 2 class and the 4 class version, each of them has a different SanDisk part number.

Both versions includes a 16GB card with class sign "2",

the version with part number "SDSDQY-016G-E11M" is sold as class "4" and is more expensive!

thanks for more hints!

manilla
[HD2 General] pathologo:
Seems like a scam to me.

Normally the class 4 card is sold as SDSDQY-016G-E11M.

I bought mine yesterday from another retailer, model number SDSDQY-016G-E11M, package says class 2 - must be an error or universal package -, but the card says class 4, for about 58 €.

Btw, the reader surely doesn't make a difference of 17 €...

EDIT: E could mean Europe and A could mean America.
[HD2 General] manilla:
So you really can be lucky that your SanDisk package "SDSDQY-016G-E11M" had included a class "4" one ;-)
[HD2 General] pathologo:
Not lucky. I just got the right stuff.

Almost any internet page declares the article SDSDQY-016G-E11M as a class 4 card.

If I were you I would return the card, if possible.
[HD2 General] manilla:
yeah, you're right in case of reading,

but I think when I pay for a class "4" card I would like to get a such one for my money ;-)

Possibly SanDisk has a problem with their packages and is selling slow speed cards for a higher price!
[HD2 General] manilla:
yes, it's possible to return the card, and I can go myself to this shop!

Because the shop first mentioned "when the right number is on the package the card is a class "4" one, even when there is the number "2" in the class sign),

therefore i wanted to find out if all available SanDisk packages "SDSDQY-016G-E11M" will contain a card with class "2" sign.

I have bought two of them and both contain a class "2" card ;-(
[HD2 General] str0g:
Why you haven't bought silicon power instead of sandisk? (On this forum we have a topic about 16b sdhc )
[HD2 General] pathologo:
Both were sold as the SDSDQY-016G-E11M by the same shop?

Report the scammers to SanDisk!

I can't believe they are allowed to sell class 2 cards as the SDSDQY-016G-E11M!

For that much money you have to return your cards and get yourself the true class 4 cards from another retailer!

Btw, the proper product number for the class 2 card is SDSDQ-016G-E11M.
[HD2 General] dgtel2:
Have you tried to re-format the card(s)? See what is the true "capacity". It may not be 16GB afterall.
[HD2 General] manilla:
SanDisk has to take the blame because these are original SanDisk packages which originally show up "SDSDQY-016G-E11M" article number including reader, but inside the cards itself show class "2" sign.

The question is if packages labeled "Mobile Ultra microSDHC 16GB" are existing as both, class "2" and as class "4" versions, or mobile ultra means automatically class "4" ???
[HD2 General] manilla:
after reformat the capacity is 14,8 GB
[HD2 General] pathologo:
Google for SDSDQ-016G-E11M and you will see that 99% of the found pages say class 2.

Google for SDSDQY-016G-E11M and you will see that 99% of the found pages say class 4.

The other 1% are scammers.

SanDisk doesn't use the same product number for different classes.

SanDisk may use the same package with a "class 2"-printing - I don't know why - but if the printing above the barcode says SDSDQY-016G-E11M then it has to be a class 4 card.
[HD2 General] manilla:
tomorrow the shop will get new delivery, will see if packages still contain class "2" signed cards ore hopefully class "4" ones!

It would be interesting to see another benchmark from a class "4" signed 16GB microSDHC SanDisk card!
[HD2 General] pathologo:
Benchmark of my SDSDQY-016G-E11M, class 4, with included MobileMate Micro Reader:

14 Megabytes write speed

18 Megabytes read speed

Benchmark of the card which comes with HD2, seems to be class 2, with MobileMate Micro Reader:

6,5 - 7 Megabytes write speed

10 Megabytes read speed.

Tested several times with large files of 200 - 1200 Megabytes.
[HD2 General] manilla:
thanks much,

so now I'm sure when the card is signed as class "2" it's really a class "2" one ;-)

have to return
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gamikzone:
Hi people, first off all thx in advance, ive been having this problem for around a week ever since i tried doing stuff with tf3d config and theme files, my problem is now if i try to play a video it simple will not work, ive attempted hard reset flash sd card format, none of it will work, ive tried 2 play a video on the htc album app and it freezes on the loading screen. On windows media it says cannot play, im not sure if this is a driver problem or a software problem, i can play videos on skyfire directly from youtube but it is not smooth at all and on my android port some videos play but they are also choppy.
[Nexus One General] JoshHart:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/01/09/google-android-personal-thoughts/

Simply pathetic.
[Nexus One General] Blueman101:
i like how he said the fact that iPhone's OS is more human and less analytical than that of the android. What a ****ing joke.
[Nexus One General] stewart1988:
Multitasking? Ok, we’ll have that with iPhone 4.0. What else? App Store limitations? Come on. Plus there’s a chance iPhone 4.0 will be announced in literally weeks away (Apple will up their screen resolution on the iPhone to probably double, and have a new resolution for their “slate”) — you can be sure Apple is going to come out swinging.​

LOL! Apple fanboys are really getting scared! I love my iPhone but come on man up and admit Android is coming up pretty fast and could even show Apple how **** should be done! :)

Gonna love got the comments!
[Nexus One General] romeo0119:
Given that iphone os been around for about 3 years now and andriod maybe 1.5? Iphone didnt even have mms until 3.0 so some one should tell them that. Also did anyone read a pathetic post on engadget about flash on android? Sounds like the guy is piss that his iphone prob wont get flash anytime soon.
[Nexus One General] JoshHart:
I don't know if all these sites writers use iPhones and their world is crumbling around them or what but it's pretty damn crazy out there right now.
[Nexus One General] frenchtom:
"you still will almost always lose that charm and that amazing feeling of connecting to something. People would die for their iPhones, people would die for their BlackBerrys – and they feel like their lives are in there. People feel connected to their BlackBerrys. Some sleep with them next to their pillow. No one gives a crap about their Android phone, there’s zero emotional attachment."

lol not so true! i slept part of the night with mine next to my pillow hahahaha! but yeah he is seriously hating right now like this quote makes no ****ing sense. In the past 2 years i have had

a blackberry Pearl to blackberry Curse 8320 to G1 back Pearl to Curve to MT3G to BOLD 9700 to Nexus one and so far BY FAR my favorit is the N1 it does have plenty of "emotions" and lil cool quirks

ONE THING i did notice though is that every review out there by a non Android website as been less then exciting, i feel like Gizmodo gave the MT3G a way better review to the MT3G then Nexus One in comparaison.
[Nexus One General] romeo0119:
"you still will almost always lose that charm and that amazing feeling of connecting to something. People would die for their iPhones, people would die for their BlackBerrys – and they feel like their lives are in there. People feel connected to their BlackBerrys. Some sleep with them next to their pillow. No one gives a crap about their Android phone, there’s zero emotional attachment."

WTF? Ok first of all, if you are that much emotional attach to your iphone or bb, you need help, get out and meet some ppl and maybe sleep with ppl and not phones. And what is he talking about ppl would die for their bb? More like the bb die on their ppl more often then not. I love all my phones, I got too many of them but none I have emotional attachment to it, if I'm bored with it and if it can still fetch me a nice price, bye bye phone, doesnt matter if it iphone, android, winmo or bb.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
he makes some intriguing points but most of what he wrote is rubbish...
[Nexus One General] duncan888:
"People would die for their iPhones"

Uhmm.... I wonder if someone said your iPhone or your life, what would that reviewer choose.
[Nexus One General] romeo0119:
Prob their life? Fanboys are true extremist
[Nexus One General] kozm0naut:
I'm not sure I've met anyone who ever loved their BlackBerry..
[Nexus One General] JoshHart:
Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Everyone I know that has Blackberries got them because they were free, either upgrade or corporate users and they all hate them.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Its baffling.

Every reviews filled with anger and massively biased opinion.

What kills me is that they arent upset about the price , or plan restrictions , or lack of a specific feature. They all seem to randomly pick things ((most of which arent even accurate)) and rant on about it while mentioning Iphone every other sentence.

Its pretty pathetic.
[Nexus One General] BrooklynAvi:
First of all, I do sleep with my phone but mostly because I like to read my email when I wake up. I've had three Android devices (G1, myTouch and now the N1) and would rather have a broken G1 than an iPhone. Okay, maybe not quite to that extreme but the writer's review is tremendously flawed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but to say the N1 is a bad phone is just plain hating. If I was an iPhone lover I'd at least admit that the N1 is nice. I mean seriously, it's such a beautiful phone and worth every penny I paid. And PS, people aren't going to run out and get an Apple tablet thingy like they did the iPhone. Remember, the iPhone is subsidized. Tablet devices will not be. So even if the Apple tablet is the greatest device ever, Apple will have a hard time selling a non-essential device with such a high price tag.
[Nexus One General] satchef1:
Good article in my opinion.

The iPhone's shortfalls are commonly known. It's nice to see someone list Android's for a change rather than pretending that all is fine and dandy. A lack of polish. That is pretty much what it boils down to. It's something that I've noticed from watching videos of Android devices, there isn't much consistency in the UI. When I first saw pictures of 2.1 and heard about the "Google Phone" I was hoping this would be solved. Sadly it hasn't been, but you can tell Google are working on it. The home screen, program tray and gallery all tie in together now and they just need to tie the rest together.

Personally I'm happy to see someone speaking their mind about Android and putting it in quite a good way. I'm in the process of choosing a new handset and it's opinions like these that I like reading, better than getting a nasty surprise when I try out the handset.
[Nexus One General] bofslime:
...Holy shipwreck that was hard, I want to puch that guy in the face now...

BTW, I've always thought the iPhone was a good solid phone, I've just liked android better due to the high level of integration and sync-ability with my gmail and cal, etc, etc. I dunno why the iphone boys gotta have so much hate.
[Nexus One General] JoshHart:
LOL, putting it in quite a good way? Half the things in there aren't even true and then he compares the N1 to future devices that aren't even out yet haha. See this is exactly the worst part of this slanderish garbage, people believe it as fact.
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Totally agree.

And he doesn't even touch on some of the biggest issues with Android IMO.

I would add Google's "Big Brother is watching you approach" to the OS/phone and the lacking/poorly executed exchange support as additional problems with Android as a platform.

As far as the app market is concerned he really hits the nail on the head. Although the large majority of iphone apps is also crap, the small minority of useful apps really stands out. there is nothing that comes even close on WM or android and the developer support on these platforms is ... non-existent.

Good article and some good points. I wish Google would address them.
[Nexus One General] staulkor:
One internets for you sir.
[Nexus One General] mcarey66:
The person that wrote that article sounds like one of the people that "would die for their iPhone" and is ****ting bricks that an Android based phone has come out that puts the iPhone to shame.

My neighbor has an iPhone 3GS (and an Apple tattoo, no joke) and he looked like he was going to cry when he used my N1.

We're going to see a lot more of these "reviews" as Apple Fanboys realize Android has just exploded onto the same playing field with the release of the N1.
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
i do miss some iphone apps.....and they were great a year ago when i had 2G......and still nothing even close in android market....sucks.
[Nexus One General] JareduPS:
I started reading this and figured someone just quoted the article, but in fact you made it so much better.

I urge you to send it to the writer of the BGR article- maybe it'll knock some sense into him!!

I'd also like my BGR ninja hat- There's no good version of google voice on the iphone. Oh right- they rejected it. *sigh*
[Nexus One General] student.driver:
I've ad both the iPhone fans at work that can't get over my nexus one. I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see such a vicious response from the Apple fans in the media. But the actual *users* seem to love it.
[Nexus One General] SystmDcln:
It's websites like this that should have zero credibility. If you're a somewhat popular publication on the internet that reviews you need to have a neutral opinion, this is just some fanboy rage post.
[Nexus One General] stewart1988:
How many sites, magazines, newspapers etc are neutral?

Cant think of any off the top of my head...
[Nexus One General] SystmDcln:
TechCrunch posted a pretty good read on Iphone and Android. It's one thing to have a bias toward a product but when it bleeds out all over the place in your "review" you have a problem.
[Nexus One General] TonyHoyle:
I get the impression that apple have paid a *lot* to make sure there's negative press about the N1 (not directly, of course.. more like 'We'd like to place a few dozen premium ads. By the way, hows the review coming?'). Probably google have paid similar amounts for positive press, so it'll balance out once the google advertising cuts in.

I wonder if google are bypassing the tech press and going directly to the mainstream.. The N1 launch was covered positively as a major news item here (and that kind of press is expensive) - everyone has heard of it judging by the number of people who have asked to see mine. Who outside the tech community have even heard of gizmodo for example? Sounds like a good strategy.
[Nexus One General] JareduPS:
That's why I quit reading articles reviewing the product unless I'm completely and hopelessly addicted. (like with the N1.. I look past the bias just to hear more about it, haha.)

Normally I go straight to youtube and watch user reviews and hands-on.. less rigging, rarely good editing(if any) so it's easier to judge real-world usage, and it's not text. haha.
[Nexus One General] mark925:
You know, reading these you'd think Android killed their dog and slept with their mom.