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[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Yes, but Windows Mobile 5.0, 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5 are all based on Windows CE version 5-point-something. (You forget how little development has been going on with Windows Mobile for the past several years - very little has actually changed between 5.0 and 6.5). Going to WM7 we go to a Windows CE version 6 kernel, which is completely different.

What devices are there which have identical hardware to the HD2 and are running WM7? :) I take the point that there probably will be devices out there with similar hardware running WM7 at some point; but look at the issues people are currently having porting graphics drivers from the Toshiba TG01 to the HD2 (and they really do have virtually identical hardware) - it mostly works, but it's not perfect. And every device onboard needs a driver - not just the main chipset, but things like the camera too. What are the chances a WM7 phone will have an identical camera to the HD2? And where are we going to get a WM7-compatible radio ROM from?

It's already been announced that it won't.

It would be a totally illogical choice for an upgrade, because WM7 isn't due out until Q4 this year - likely late Q4 according to some rumours. That means the HD2's successor will probably launch as HTC's first (flagship) WM7 phone. At that point, if HTC issues a WM7 upgrade for the HD2 they will be seriously cannibalising HD3 sales; from HTC's perspective, they want anyone who wishes to upgrade to WM7 to buy a new phone to do it. There was no official WM6.5 upgrade for the Touch HD for the same reason.

If HTC are testing WM7 on actual HD2 hardware, then there may indeed be a helpful leak at some point. :) Do you have a source for that claim, or are you just being optimistic?
[HD2 General] chmun77:
by 2011, i think i can upgrade my phone again since it reaching the end of my contract....

:D
[HD2 General] freyberry:
OK, some additions to your points.

I really don't think that a WM7 upgrade would hurt HD3 sales. Would Apple still sell the iPhone 3G if it did hurt 3GS sales? Probably not. If someone wants an HD3, he'll buy an HD3. If someone doesn't want to spend that much, he'll buy a cheaper device, which could then be the HD2 (because it saves HTC some costs of developing new mid-range phones if they continue to sell the last gen devices, just like Apple does). The reason for not providing a WM6.5 upgrade to the Touch HD is that they have to draw a line somewhere. Testing and adjusting new WM versions causes additional costs and they have to decide if it pays (because they give out the upgrade for free, so the "only" thing they get in return is satisfaction of their customers). Yes, I do think that they should have provided WM6.5 for the Touch HD, but apparently they decided that it would not pay. Apple only has to support two last-gen devices, it would be much too expensive for HTC to develop upgrades for all their devices, so they have to choose which ones to support.

About HTC testing WM7 on the HD2: I know that the necessary software exists, but I can't tell you any more than that (and I don't know more than that). Of course I can not guarantee that there will be a leak, I'm just being optimistic about this. Only time will tell if there will be an official upgrade or a leak that we can use, but yes, I am optimistic :)
[HD2 General] kb0n:
I wouldn't bet a penny on that statement.

All I've read so far about HTC customer support responses (HD2: ROM upgrades, warranty, release datesm..) were vague. One not knowing what the other one said, contradictious statements, etc.

Unless that "confirmation" is not from a "higher positioned" employee, it's not more promising than the russian tweet about the Upgrade.
[HD2 General] sonus:
Maybe I'm a skeptic, but the only thing I believe from that statement is that WM7 is scheduled for release in November. I wouldn't be surpsied if like most CS reps he was a bit confused and didn't realize that MS/HTC is probably going to push out 6.5.3 to the HD.

More than likely 6.5.3 will be released as a free download

WM7 will start appearing in Nov (on new devices though)

And since I've never seen HTC develop 2 OS updates for a device, I don't see it happening now, unless times are changing and that WM7 license is free or something.
[HD2 General] bigsro:
Personally I do believe we will get an update from HTC for the HD2 but I dont think it will be when WM7 launches or anytime soon after that. I hope I am wrong but if WM7 is as good as we hope and erases the ghosts of previous WinMo iterations then we will see an influx of new Handsets from most of the manufacturers. Leaving little time for the HD2...until the dust settles that it is...

Just my opinion mind you, I am thoroughly expecting to be wrong on this...:)
[HD2 General] mickfarr:
I'd say Windows 7 is being tested on the HD2 right now.

http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/microsoft-implies-windows-mobile-7-headed-to-htc-hd2
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
The critical difference there is that the iPhone 3G is still an active product: Apple is still making and selling them. (Though you'll note that they discontinued the 16GB version of the 3G as soon as the 3GS launched for precisely that reason - so as to avoid hurting 3GS sales by competing with it).

HTC doesn't operate like that. They have well-defined market sectors, and when a new device comes out in any one sector, the old one is retired and production ceases. Consider, for example, the Touch Diamond, Touch Pro and Touch HD - once the TD2, TP2 and HD2 came out, each of those replaced the earlier model, and the earlier version immediately ceased production. They didn't keep the old Touch HD going as a cheap version of the HD2; that role is fulfilled by the TD2.

Very few manufacturers offer any sort of ongoing development for phone models which aren't being made any more, and HTC is no exception: once the HD2 is no longer being made and sold, we won't see any more major updates for it. For so long as it remains in production, we may.

So the question is simply whether WM7 will become available before or after the HD2 ceases production. If it comes out several months before, there's a good chance of a port (because not offering it would hurt HD2 sales in the mean time). If it comes out after the HD2 isn't being sold any more, there is no chance. And all the precedents suggest that they will stop making HD2's as soon as a replacement model comes out, and that the replacement will likely appear about a year after the model it replaces - which is round about the time WM7 is expected to launch.

Even if you ignore HTC's history of model replacement, it's still very unlikely that the HD2 will remain in production after a new flagship model is released. The iPhone 3G and 3GS can coexist because there's such a large gap between the two in hardware terms (in the same way as there is between the HD2 and the TD2). But it's doubtful that the HD3 hardware will actually be that far ahead of the HD2. (Look how long HTC stuck with MSM72XX chipsets before moving to Snapdragon; it'll likely be a while before they move on from Snapdragon to anything faster). The fact that the HD3 has WM7 will quite likely be the primary thing that differentiates it from the HD2; giving existing HD2 owners access to WM7 would eliminate all motivation for upgrading. There's no way HTC will do that.
[HD2 General] deyanp:
I paste also here my comment:

Well, HTC can motivate consumers to buy new devices end of 2010 in 2 ways - by not upgrading existing to WM7 and offering it only with the new devices, or by offering new devices with much faster hardware, which will be an incentive on its own. I am not sure which option HTC will choose though ... having in mind how the competition will upgrade the hardware soon (Apple, Motorola) I think HTC will be forced to do the same as well (and for good)

What I am sure about is that currently MS is testing WM7 on HD2. I hope that at least this version leaks out inofficially
[HD2 General] imperiallight:
Windows 7 mobile is already in leak..

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/17/early-windows-mobile-7-build-given-some-hands-on-time-incompati/
[HD2 General] de Wolfe:
Well, WM6.5 has been tested also on Xperia X1 and finally there didn't come any update. I think that it is normal that the developers test it on phones that are able to work with the new OS, but it doesn't mean that HD2 will definetly get an official update - though I pray for it...
[HD2 General] Scrtcwlvl:
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/01/17/windows-mobile-7-rumors-getting-out-of-hand/

Certainly not the most reputable source... I would say... also doesn't seem to be a very educated one either.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] schultzy001:
The icons on the homescreen that you are suppose to be able to remove wont delete. When I press and hold on an icon it just opens the app. It wont let me drag it to remove it from the homescreen. If I want it gone I have to completely uninstall it. The htc widgets will let me remove but nothing else. I am using fresh Ron 1.1. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] alcaron:
Reboot once or twice.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] ljmeli:
Had this issue once. Reboot solved it.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] schultzy001:
Thanks, I rebooted and its working now.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alturismo:
Hi,

would like to ask if someone would be so kind to extract the WCM app

its gone on some custom rom´s and i couldnt find any decent replacement therefore ...

thanks ahead
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
I haven't tested this on a Leo, so I'm not sure if it will work. It won't hurt to try though. :)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XG1Y9YCQ
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alturismo:
thanks for the tip

didnt work ...

nothing happens on starting app
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alturismo:
worked now when i copy the "old" files from /windows rom 1.4.8 into install folder from the cab

may as hint if someone else needs a solution

thanks again
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rob63263:
bcr.cab

can you please send me the files to be overwrite, that the bcr app start?

txh
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Steve0007:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/lz97v7
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rob63263:
bcr

thanks for posting the link. the app doesnt work. when starting it apperas a W for the app on the display, then it goes away? i have a samsung omnia i 900 - can you help?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] GrahamST:
I know it is almost 2 years on, but do you still have the files that you could upload again?

I would like to get Worldcard working on my HD2,

Thanks in anticipation,

GrahamST
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] BHS Interceptor:
Hola Graham, please take a look at the middle of the following post fom Laurentius, where it says "My Cabs":

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13083746&postcount=3

You might find what you´re looking for your HD2 ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] GrahamST:
Many thanks, I have found the link and will try it when I get home later.

Regards

GrahamST

UPDATE:

Thanks again - it worked a treat - now I just need to clear some memory in the phone to let it work reliably OK!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kanishkapd:
try this rom

hey try this rom. it has world card preinstalled.

and very beautiful rom with great battery life.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1232857

regards.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Dyne86:
Dunno where to :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zeeshan9211:
is there any way to via SPB backup or any other backup tool

and any one have the backuped rom wm 6.5 from kaiser

if no then please make it possible for me so i could upgrade via this procedure

Thanks in Advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stylez:
Moved as not ROM Development.

and no you can't upgrade via SPB you need to flash which needs hard-spl the instructions are in noob guide how to flash as stated several times...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jopherr:
at my school, in order to use the wifi connection, you have to log in with your username and password(not like wireless password wep,wpa etc ). I can find and connect to the wifi but it will not work when i try surfing the web as i cannot seem to be able to enter in my username and password.

does anyone know of how to help me?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] santiargy:
that is probably your proxy server asking for user/password to let you out...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jopherr:
oh whoops i didnt state my problem.

i do not know where to be able to enter in this information to be able to access the internet.

certificates?

other things?

im not sure.

how do i enter in for certificate?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fone_fanatic:
well, what do you have to do if you were to connect to your school's wifi with a laptop?

At my university, once you connect to the wifi and try to access a page it re-directs you to a page where you must login with your school assigned username and password. Once logged in I can surf just fine. I only use it in lecture halls that have no reception.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jopherr:
oh im not really sure i havent tried.

on tuesday i shall try it and come back
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] aol8mydog:
Your school's proxy likely authenticates through Active Directory - which isn't, as far as I know, used in Windows Mobile (at least in any practical fashion). In an enterprise wireless environment, even a laptop may have to be plugged in via CAT5 cable first to obtain the proper certificate (something that isn't quite compatible with a mobile phone) - after that, it can authenticate on the wireless network. For this reason, some enterprise wireless networks offer a guest account with limited, more controlled acccess to the school's local network but it may, at the very least, give you access to the internet.

Sorry this isn't of much help, but it at least clarifies why you may not be able to access the internet. I did see this same question come up on the Experts Exchange website but they charge you to see the answer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jopherr:
okay so i tried to connect to the wireless network on my laptop. it "connects" fine and dandy. What I mean is that the "connected" icon shows up. But the message that prompts me to enter in my username and password pops up after i open my web browser (firefox/chrome etc)

on my friends iphone. same thing. the popup shows up after you open up safari mobile.

is there really no way around this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Joe USer:
Are you using Opera or IE?

Opera in turbo mode will not let you authenticate.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jopherr:
o_O let me try it tommorow without turbo mode.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fone_fanatic:
Or just try it in Pocket Internet Explorer, Log in, then switch over to Opera.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jopherr:
ok i tried it today when i ran pie, there was no popup or prompt for me to sign in. neither was it there when i used opera w/o turbo.

anyother suggestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chompx2:
I have noticed some posts here advertising cell phones at a huge discount about 1/3 of the going price. If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

I visit Hong Kong quite often and am familiar with the prices of Electronics in Hong Kong. The prices of cell phones and electronic gadgets are not cheaper than the States.

Chinese from mainland China come to Hong Kong to shop for cell phones because the prices of these goods are more expensive in China.

Does it make sense for a China based company to sell cell phones and electronic gears overseas at such a low price, when they could sell the same items at home, at much higher prices?

Draw your own conclusions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] irkan:
Yeah pretty obvious, .. I saw more than one advertisment,

beside the low price (nothing is more than 300 USD) there is the special offers in the ad they say "buy 2 and get one free, buy 3 and get 2 free" Lol.

anyone with minimum amount of brain logic would realize that it is a hoax, but it is always good to warn others just in case :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
:eek::eek:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=494964

And don´t forget to vote!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] alspecial2007:
morning.

I have a HTC Touch Dual, this handheld is restarted prematurely and without apparent cause, what could be the problem?

I handheld radio channel update and win6.5 but the defect was already present on the old rom

ideas on this?

thanks for the interest it
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General] kavoc:
I had a similar problem with my phone shutting off even after just taking it off the charger. It seemed to help when I took the battery off and wiped off the points where the battery and phone connect. Wipe the prongs and the slots on the battery. Not the same problem you are having, but it helped me. Didn't do anything else to mine so I'm assuming that's what it was.
[HD2 General] andi1977dog:
hi, for some reason the front screen is convinced i have an email that i havent read i.e its got a little green circle with a one in ontop of the email symbol. i have three email accounts and all are empty but the symbol remains ?? any ideas ??
[HD2 General] Archer:
Someone posted this exact problem a few days ago, so search this forum and you'll find the answer :)
[HD2 General] andi1977dog:
thanks, i tried but ill look again
[HD2 General] andi1977dog:
i cant find the thread on this issue, any ideas where it is ?? thanks
[HD2 General] Archer:
I've had a look, but the word "email" does bring up quite a lot of results, doesn't it ;)

Haev you tried deleting the account and then recreating it?
[HD2 General] andi1977dog:
yes , i tried deleting all three accounts and setting them back up but that still didnt work............:confused:
[HD2 General] JayVee:
There is a small tool around here (FixUnreadCount). But I do not know if it works.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5221206&postcount=15

or search for 'Unread' in titles. The problem seems to be well-known...

Best regards
[HD2 General] snerkler:
Hi,

Only had my HD2 for a couple of days having come from iphone and have a couple of gripes with it. Maybe it's just me though as never had a windows phone before.

When using opera internet browser you have to zoom in quite a bit to press links, which I find a little annoying. I've tried skyfire which is much better, but you can't use pinch/zoom. Is there a browser that has the best of both worlds?

Is there a quick way to turn bluetooth on/off without having to go into settings?

Is there a quick link to profiles? I know if you hold the end call button you can select between vibrate or ringer, but not silent. I must admit, this is one thing I liked about the iphone, there was a simple switch to change from silent/ringer without having to turn the phone on and press buttons.

When making/receiving calls sometimes the screen comes back on and my ear presses other functions, or disconnects the call. Has there not been a fix for this issue yet?

The call quality isn't great, sometimes the caller distorts on certain words/letters

And finally, is there any way to change the vibrate? Can it be set to 'pulse' rather than just a continous vibration. Can it be set just to give one or 2 pulses when receiving a sms/mms message, rather than vibrating for the full length of the message alert? (I've personalised mine and goes on for about 10 seconds)

I think the phone is great, and these niggles aren't the most major of things (accept the screen turning back on during calls) but it would make the phone more of a pleasure to use.

Cheers
[HD2 General] NeilM:
There are fixes or programs for most of your niggles, but they may not integrate with the HTC Sense interface! That's one downside of such a deeply coded front end, and one reason why I personally have stopped using it!

There is a file available which can allow links in Opera to be clicked when zoomed out- sorry, but I don't have time to link to it at present!

For profile and radio (BT/WiFi/Phone) switching, I'd recommend SBSH Phoneweaver . OK, it costs $15 but you can set any number of profiles with switching based on time, location, busy status etc, or manually. The pop-up menu also has a set of switches for the various radios. It can be launched via one of the 3 Program buttons on the front page of Sense, or via a small icon in the Taskbar. I'm, not sure if it can have the vibrate times defined or not!
[HD2 General] snerkler:
Thanks for your response. What are you referring to when you say radios? Please forgive my ignorance, I'm still learning :o

You say that you have stopped using the HTC sense interface so what do you use instead?
[HD2 General] snerkler:
Just having a look at the phoneweaver, can this be used with the sense interface? Does it overide the phone settings?
[HD2 General] NeilM:
Radios = WiFi, Bluetooth and Phone Radio. These are the things you see in the Comm Manager with the little green On/Off sliders

I'm now using a 'Light' custom ROm without the HTC Sense stuff. I prefer to use a plain 'Home Screen' (which you can achieve by going into Settings/Home (or Today) and selecting the Items tab. From there you can turn on or off any of the Today items or Sense itself.

A lot of the programs I use have their own Today screen plug-ins which suits me fine- Resco Contact Manager, Elecont Weather and Chronos clock/alarms, plus I use a Launcher program called Launchpad by Panoramic Software that is opened by tapping the top left of the screen; this has 40 definable 'Favourites' links plus a full set of Programs/Settings links.

Back to work now!
[HD2 General] NeilM:
It can take over all the phone settings and can be manual or scheduled, plus some other useful switching options. You can try it free for 15 days!
[HD2 General] snerkler:
Cheers for your help :)
[HD2 General] lorin.bute:
If you read this sticky thread you will find the answers to all of your questions:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583638

It should be pretty obvious since its the first and most talked about topic.

Enjoy.
[HD2 General] snerkler:
Thanks for that thread, the trouble is I'm not a real computer/phone buff (yet) and so a lot of it goes right over my head. I don't even know what registry's are, and wy you need to edit them??? :confused::o
[HD2 General] lorin.bute:
Ok, the concept of registry is quite simple. I'll put in a way so anyone can understand. Its a repository of stored key/value pairs.

Imagine a folder like structure, when you open a folder you will find a series of keys which, when opened, reveal the value.

Every key/folder is used by the OS or by some application. Its where all the back door settings are stored. So if you wanna make an app or the OS behave in a way you need to change the settings.

Using the registry is easy, but you have to make the first step... so what are you waiting? :)
[HD2 General] snerkler:
Can I bugger up the phone if I don't know what I'm doing?
[HD2 General] lorin.bute:
You can always make a backup of the registry you are changing. In resco registry editor tap and hold and press export. If the changes you made are not good, go to the folder where you exported the backup and open it. It will automatically imported and problem solved. But if you follow the instructions you won't have any problems, just don't change the registry for something you don't know or never seen in any tip/suggestion.
[HD2 General] eskasi:
You could affect stuff if you dont do it right... but if you follow the instructions carefully without any typing errors, you will be fine...

Use this to Turn off BT easily.... it also does a lot of other stuff... basically, your bottom left softkey will become an "action" button... prssing that will bring up the screen shown in the screenshots. Works really well for me... also give you soft reset options without opening the back cover or powering off

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=587493&highlight=action+button