yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ParkBom:
Its true Im agree with you, i have an iphone and it does outpoerforms our HTC HD in terms of speed and flawliness..

im making my own 6.1 based on latest 21506 build with sense 2.5 (2.5.19211619.0 cfc), what i just say is that the manila 2.5 is the main reason of slowliness.. but better than with WM 6.5..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BuroBernd:
well i tested 2 nearly identical topix roms: 3.0.2, with WM6.1 and HTC Sense 2.1, and 3.1.2 with WM6.1 but touchflow3d instead of sense.

it's like day and night, touchflow is so much quicker and smoother than sense.

so my advice is: go get a WM6.1 Touchflow rom, and just style it with various themes, you can make it look pretty nicely without losing speed.

if, somehow, somebody could add my location to touchflow 3d, that would be incredibly awesome, as this is the only downside of touchflow, which lacks my location weather and the little weather icon on the home screen.

apart form that, it is evident that touchlfow 3d was made for the blackstone, htc sense is for the leo. sense wont ever run as smoothly as touchflow on the blackstone. period.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sschrupp:
Keep in mind that there are a number of free interfaces out there that look good and are very customizable. So you don't NEED to have Manila or Sense.

What I'd like to see is someone make an absolutely clean and latest 6.1, and the latest and clean 6.5.3 ROMs. Clean as in nothing extra installed, and without TouchFlo, without Manila, and without Sense.

This would give a nice base to install a 3rd party interface like PointUI or Mobile Shell 3.5 (not free but great UI) and compare the speed between the clean 6.1 and clean 6.5.3.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Queequeg:
Topix has rilphone 1.14 cooked in. It was first included in Topix version 3.0.

Topix does not have any radio, so your radio stays as it is after flashing Topix. Version 1.17 works fine on my WM 6.1 system.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tlerner:
Count me in....thanks in advance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bodisson:
+1

Altough, I was happy with TouchFlo on my Polaris...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] THUDUK:
Can you install TouchFlo from a cab file ?

or does it have to be embedded in the ROM
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] calcop:
onkolog SuperLite build 21051 is the only i know...with this ROM MShell3 it's a rocket, zero latency!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
TouchFLO is embedded in rom
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sillysod:
I just flashed Miri's v35 6.5 21889 Premium WITHOUT Manila. First time using 6.5 interface & I have to say it is very usable, although still not as snappy as possible; pretty close though. I have restored hundreds of SMS's and texting is perfect, although not as pretty, but better than all that I have used but Sense. Mem usage is 34%.

I like the idea of 6.1 with Mobile Shell, will consider buying it. How is Mobile Shell to use? Looking up screen shots & features now.. Just missing Weather and links etc on the 'desktop' - Although can piss off for the speed gains.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] timeworm:
WHERE TO GET THAT ROM M8 Topix 3.0.2 WWE Sense with weather ★ WM 6.1 ★ ?? Is it small weather icon apear on home screen??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] timeworm:
Topix 3.1.2 seems a good rom.. Better then Dutys Final rom, but im missing that small weather icon on today screen like from Sense 2.5.. Does anyone got a good start bar icons for wm6.1?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hamkeng:
Yes, and you can download it from my Topix Link List.

Also try version 3.0.1 with weather. I like it better than 3.0.2.

Password to extract: topix version 3.0.1 or topix version 3.0.2

Tpoix 3.0.1 with weather on Mediafire, download.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GoldCoin:
So until some chef will take up the gauntlet and cook an up-to-date WM6.1 rom, i think it's better to post what available so far.

The roms below has been tested by me for almost a week, including benchmark tests, and i can say all works very smooth and stable.

Topix 3.0.2 (WM6.1 / Sense 2.1 with weather) - Thread | Download

Topix 3.1.2 (WM6.1 / Manila 2.1) - Thread | Download

Dutty's HD V4.3 Final (WM6.1 / Manila 2.1) - Thread | Download (with new start menu)

I see some talking about running WM6.1 with Mobile Shell instead of manila... Personally i don't like MS at all.

Too bad there isn't any good alternative for manila. I'm currently testing WM6.5 rom with PhoneEx and so far so good.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] timeworm:
Thx mate can i have 3.0.1 topix link from mediafire pls? rapidshare is down today..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hamkeng:
Updated my post with Mediafire link.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] timeworm:
Perfect thanks i cant wait to test it..

Just installed 3.0.2 and thats exactly what im lookin fo best rom ..

What about task bar/ startbar icons any cool alternatives?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hamkeng:
I often use this. Remember to use WM 6.1 version.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fjellborg:
Topix 3.0.2,Topix 3.1.2, Dutty's HD V4.3.....

I have tried these versions and they are excellent, but out of date ..

I would be grateful if there was a 6.1 version that has all the latest .. I.E, Opera etc etc inbedded in the rom...wishful thinking :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] timeworm:
Finally i sorted everithin myself the rom is bargain, 32% memory after restart and HD is flying like never b4... THX

Thats how it looks now!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GoldCoin:
Good job :)

Can you post the link to the taskbar icons?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] timeworm:
LINKhttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=522080
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tsalta:
Here is the right place to ask this question i think to flash back a WM 6.1 Version but i can`t choice betwen this.. can someone who know the both ROMs tell me witch one is Faster,Stable, and minimum bugs betwen

TOPIX 3.1.2 WM 6.1 Latest Release and TOPAZ Vanilla WM 6.1 ... The Both ROM`s are WM 6.1 with Regular Manila 2.1

The both ROM are made from the same Person Kwbr

So i read and hear that the Vanilla Series are the Fastes ROMs but witch one is Much better choice from this two ROM`s because im wondering witch one to Flash, i don`t like to flash my device often i just want to flash it once and to use this ROM for everydy Use:)

Thanks in advance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bodisson:
I tend to disagree with "all included", since lot of programs I use change almost constantly (even Opera).

For current list of used programs check my sig... ;)

So "naked" one would be best for me, with links to addons/programs provided... then everyone adds what is needed for him/her.

And as tsalta writes, "i don`t like to flash my device often i just want to flash it once and to use this ROM for everydy Use"

Oh... and I still don't want to put HSPL on it... yet. Guarantee is still valid... ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tsalta:
I agree with you too its better to have a clean ROM and you to install yourself the Latest programs witch you like than to flash a ROM Full with many programs and tha half of them u will never use for sure... just use Phone Memory and make the ROM heavy :)

Im waiting someone to answer to my question above and to FLASH & Enjoy my device
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dizzle:
I've always used Topix 6.1 and as far as i'm aware and i'm sure Kwbr has said it himself, Topix 6.1 is faster than Vanilla 6.1 as it has been tweaked with extra drivers etc. In any case, I've never bothered with Vanilla 6.1. Topix 3.1.2 is almost bug free, just read the thread and see for yourself.

I'm currently using Dutty's 4.3 Final as it suits me better.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hamkeng:
Agree 100%
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vjeta:
fastest win 6.1 + sense 2.5 rom

I've this rom (in spanish) installed on my HD:

http://www.htcspain.com/foro-f123/20-10-09-rom-hd-fussion-1-rev-1-wm6-t26300.html

It's working very very fast, the fastest sense 2.5 I've ever tried.

So I think the problem it's no the sense 2.5, it's winMO 6.5 that sucks!

My HD flies with this rom!

The only thing is that this rom includes htc sense 2.5.1920, a little old.

I've asked the developer if they are planing to release the same version but with sene 2.5.1922, but no answer yet.

I couldn't remember that my HD was so fast.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ParkBom:
i will post screenshots of mine with 6.1 (21056) Manila 2.5 (2.5.19211619.0) when i solve the footprints problem :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vjeta:
rom ?

"with 6.1 (21056) Manila 2.5 (2.5.19211619.0)"

What rom are you using ???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gabriel31337:
Can you pack your kitchen and upload it somewhere? :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ParkBom:
its my own rom..

maybe i will release a rom for public? after solving major bugs..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tsalta:
I flash now the TOPIX 3.1.2 the ROM is really fast but i get the ringtime delay again... its not from the Radio or from the Rilphone because i use the same befor with diferent ROM and this delay just gone.. now when i flash back to the WM 6.1 the delay of 1-2 seconds befor ring is again here i hate that.. also like you know the HD tweak and all other settings not working i mean Ring Without delay or with delay is the same so i hope that someone find a solution already for this problem and know some reg tweaks or program?

Its from the ROM im 100% Sure

Thanks in advance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hamkeng:
I'm running the same rom at the moment, and I do not have this ring delay. I just testet, and the delay is no more than half a second.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BuroBernd:
woha great idea !

will it run as smoothly as WM6.1 with touchflow? because speed and snappyness is what the people here are after ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tsalta:
Very strange.. i didn`t have befor any delay too

My delay now is exactly 1 ringing when i ring myself from other phone the other phone ring once befor my phone start ringing
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ParkBom:
well im not noticing any in terms of speed, maybe a little.. im cooking 218xx ang 21056 and found 6.1 a bit faster but sense2.5 is better with 6.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] khanem:
if you manage to fix manilla 2,5 with winmo 6.1 you will be my hero.:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ParkBom:
Its working for daily use for me :) battery lasts atleast 2-3 days :)

Apps not working with 6.1

:htcmessagingclient

:Album 3.5 to add to footprints
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BuroBernd:
well then, when can we hope to get our greedy hands on it?^^
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tsalta:
Today i use Topix 3.1.2 but i had sever problem with the ROM i had again this ugly delay in ringing the ROM is fast really but when i recive the delay not have any point to use fast ROM and to have ring delay so i use the ROM around 3-4 Hours and i re flash with Rhodium Vanila 6.5 Manila 2.1 Sense

This is the Stable fast WM 6.5 ROM i ever tryed befor i was with super fast Energy ROM but this one is Faster Simple and clear.. believe not big diference betwen the Regular Manila and the Manila 2.1 Sense in the Rhodium Vanila ROM

So you just need to test this ROM its almost Bug free.

The Reason to flash this ROM is because i flash my Brother HD with this ROM befor a mounth and he told me that he never need to do a soft reset and the ROM is almost perfect so i chek this by myself today too:)

I can find a signle BUG and its Super Fast ROM also i dont have any Ring delay when someone calling me the phone wake up and ring imideately.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GoldCoin:
Thanks, gonna try this out.

Could you give more details about the ring delay in 3.1.2? I'm currently on topix 3.0.2.

Have you tried change ring options with HD Tweak?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gabriel31337:
Yozgatg, are you in the process of expanding your kitchen for Blackstone, too? I would be more than happy to get my hands on it :)

Thanks,

G
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] demonarundo:
Ohh thank you so much

I was just thinknig in the same Topic

I like WM6.1 much more than 6.5

I now use Topix 3.1.2 and wish to see more developments , it is great in Performance and Power Consumption , the Battery last for 4 days

Waiting for more . . .
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ThaDoc:
I've been playin' around with different ROM's the past year. Today I flashed back to Topix 3.2.1 and I must say: Wow! My HD is actually FAST! :)

Latest 6.5 ROM I used (Miri v18) isn't half as fluent as Topix 3.2.1, I actually like my HD better now!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jebs_xda:
Hello.

I am going to install the rom vanilla rhodium to me.

Has it bugs?.

Solution?.

Thank you.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] THUDUK:
What I am looking for is the latest 6.1 ROM with the original Manilla (the one without calendar, has the basic weather, swipe up and down contacts and all that) Not Manilla 2.1 or 2.5

How might I find this ?

A kitchen would also be great, are there any ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Queequeg:
Vanilla rhodium is not based on WM 6.1

It is based on WM 6.5

Yes, it has a bug, the threaded SMS messages in Manila do not show as threaded. There is no solution at the moment.

Unlike Topix, Vanilla Rhodium does not have any add-ons, it is very close to the factory system you get if you buy HTC Rhodium. No "Music ID", no "MP3 Trimmer", no "Total commander", you'll have to install all of the stuff you find on Topix from cabs.

But Vanilla Rhodium is very stable and reliable.

I'vr tried it but I still stay with Topix because I prefer WM 6.1 to WM 6.5, WM6.1 has the drop down start menu and I like it more than the honeycomb.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] borg28:
wm 6.1 topaz by kwbr is amazingly fast and stable close to stock but damn good one.:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lazy79:
and i think kwbr is going to release a new 6.1 version / update in the upcoming days.. (?)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] juno256:
i am going to check out topix 6.1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gabriel31337:
Why do you think that? :)

But it would be amazing if he would do it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Maringer:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5385707&postcount=6004

and

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5395847&postcount=6045

:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] borg28:
well he's over at hd2 so maybe he's willing to give it a try for a new version of 6.1 so lets hope!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jebs_xda:
Rom Topix 3.0.2

Hello.

I have 3.0.2 installed.

Can someone solve like the failure(judgement) of the hour?

To seeing, whenever I give him(her) the task manager, the hour(o'clock) of the manila is late 1 hour and 2 minutes .... and to the instant it(he,she) returns to put well.

This failure(judgement) me sounds of other roms, but I am not sure if tape-worm solution.

And other one doubts:

Realentiza very much the manila when in my location it(he,she) appears the sunny time.

Has it(he,she) solution?

For demas, rom perfect.

Regards.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sschrupp:
Sorry, I know you're using a translator, but I'd really like to know how the translator came up with "tape-worm". That got a big chuckle out of me.

Anyone see the News Radio episode where Mr. James is doing a public reading of his business book? He had it translated to Japanese, then back to English so there were all sorts of crazy lines like, "Soon the super karate monkey death car would park in my space." and "Feel my skills, donkey donkey donkey, donkey donkey".

Totally reminds me of that. Sorry jebs_xda, I'm laughing at the situation not at you or anything. :)

As to your problem it sounds like you're having trouble with the Region settings maybe?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Semicuda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMZtdLra24E

And to stay on topic: it seems he has the clock-flipping-problem, where it jumps back 1:02h every time the home tab is refreshed.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] inspireme87:
I dont know how but i think i do understand what you mean lol sorry this is the cab you're looking for to disable the annoying clock flip everytime you return to your home screen

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=249494&stc=1&d=1258932732

from this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583161

thanks to empeka
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aure2009:
Hi. In my opinion one of the best 6.1 roms is Laurentius26_THDV3.5_Rhodium_WWE_Ultimate. It's fast, reliable, runs great, and before I forget - it's fast!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tlerner:
Do you have a link? I searched around for it but to no avail...:o
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] THUDUK:
http://www.laurentius26.net/index.php/rom-archive.html

need to register its free
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GoldCoin:
Hey guys take a look at this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=621053
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jebs_xda:
Perfect!. Is that what you wanted. Thank you very much.

My English is bad.

Another thing:

At the start screen when the weather is sunny, manila moves slower.

Solution?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] odm3xda:
I am sorry guys i have been away for quite some time i am on vacation for 18 days will read the whole thread when i come back i promise
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] borg28:
have a nice holiday and we keep the thread alive.:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] THUDUK:
Here is my Topix 6.1, with IphoneToday, Elecont weather and Battclock 1.6, I have the fastest machine setup I have ever used, 120MB free memory most of the time, so quick and usable...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jebs_xda:
Hi THUDUK,

Topix rom is 3.1.2?

can you explain how you did it?

Very nice.

Greetings
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] khanem:
Excellent work.I am also interested. Although that with flashmore latest 2.1, winmo 6.5 is usable.:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] THUDUK:
Sorry didn't make myself clear, it is Topix 3.1.2 WM6.1.

Installed Iphonetoday, changed the setup to 390 high in iphonetoday, selected Date, calendar, elecont weather(good weather application has so much info) and Iphonetoday under home today settings...

Simple quick use device
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] borg28:
great want this too can you give a download link for iphonetoday.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] THUDUK:
here you attached iphone today i used..

Also have been testing some of the WM6.5.3 with Sense and after running for a little while the average memory available at best on all these roms is between 60-75MB.

On WM6.1 I have after the same amount of usage as above between 100-130MB, you may think what is the point of this, but when you start running multiple programs you soon loose available ram with the new WM6.5.3 sense version, whereas the WM6.1 just seems to run and run, also I would say WM6.5.3 has better clearance of Ram once the program has been closed, but Ram sweeper works a hundred times better with WM6.1 than with WM6.5.3.

Programs and software seem to open and load almost twice as quick with WM6.1.

For eye candy you can't beat the latest WM6.5 and Sense UI, so if you want speed and functionality then it has to be WM6.1 all the way
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fitzy-boy:
Spot-On!

Couldn't agree more on your point sschrupp! I would really like to see a revival of Lite and SuperLite ROMs for both OS versions on th HD. I honestly think Onkolog had the right idea - cut the crud out and leave it to the user to put what they want on it - versatility really is the key in matters such as this.

Kindest regards.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dizzle:
Glad your happy mate :D

The Iphone is a top phone and probably provides the ultimate end user experience in terms of what it does.

However, There's something about the blank canvas and customiseability that comes with Windows that keeps me drawn to the platform.

Especially with so many talented artists on this canvas I find it a pleasure fiddling around with the phone and its various modifications. Guess i'm geeky like that :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tlerner:
Hello odm3xda

I am glad you are happy with your new toy even though it does sound like an ad for Apple.

I have tried iPhone too, and must admit that some of the things do work better on it than a WinMo device (both HD's) BUT, in the end it was just like my Nokia N95: uncustomizable and therefore I got tired of it and wanted something new.

I've had HD for a year now and am still not bored with it.

Also, I am used to the bigger screen of HD and nothing could make me wanna go to a smaller size. And the lack of multitasking on Apple devices would drive me up the wall.

iPhone is the best advertising gimmick to hit the mobile market in a long time but behind the pretty package is just another mobile phone. WinMo, despite its cumbersome and often difficult platform still offers the most in the mobile market. But I do understand that it is not for everyone.

And please, iPhone is better than HD2? Common, be serious!!!

P.S. For those curious about these two phone you should read an objective article http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-HD2-and-Apple-iPhone-3GS-side-by-side-review-r_2329.html
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Great to hear - so now go find an online worldwide forum for i-phone full of generous, talented chefs, weekly custom ROMS and a great spirited comminity who love to share tips and help each other..... what's that?.... you can't?? Point made. :p

Mattster.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] borg28:
ya good to hear your happy with your iphone,had it myself a 3g 8gb and 16gb

but the only thing you could do was switching to other firmware and apps cool but sold it and now i am stuck with this great piece of equipment and tell you its been fun to see all those great roms and customized goodies so glad to have htc hd!!:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] odm3xda:
:) ok here is simply what i wanted to say in brief

that was not an add for the apple toy - and i also enjoyed customizing win mo on amazing blackstone BUT maybe i dont have time anymore i dont know i started to feel like i need a phone that does everything in the highest quality and i do not need to work on it fixing and customizing staff ... I had that feeling after spending 30 minutes with iphone i fell in love with it .... because i cannot find forums about iphone to customize it thats why i like it most. the screen is smaller but with a higher quality graphics ... with all my respect to win mo devices iphone with its small processor is faster than hd2 ... AND iphone does multitasking actually but in a different way than what you are used to on windows mobile ... when you click on the home button it does not close the program completely it keeps it in the background waiting for you with most of programs like safari or im+ and but its like a sleep mood for the prog and thats why the processor is super fast cause it does one thing at a time ... to me i find it genius :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] borg28:
hello my arabic friend you can go too a forum called mygreatphone.com

i am also a member of that site there you can find the apple forum and customization and firmwares wathever you want.

like i said had a iphone before and yes its a amazing phone!!:D
[Touch HD General] Deni_N:
I have problem with camera, it starts every 3rd time... it says fail to initilize?

Does anyone have fix or ROM who fix this...

Now i am using 1.57 stock rom on OliNex SPL...
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
I'm assuming your using correct HSPL, i.e. 1.56 and not 1.14?
[Touch HD General] Deni_N:
it is 1.56.OliNex