yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] trump98:
*KenShiro*, i have no cht or something similar.

kuzibri, try doing this several times.

i've also tried it again now: 1st time x2 appeared for about half a second, then disappeared and homescreen rotated to portrait like you said, but after that upper bar (including clock) stopped to respond. next 3 times (after softreset, of course) it was the same, but without x2 appearing.

next try was more complicated:

turning phone to landscape - homescreen rotates to landscape

tapping clock - homescreen rotates to portrait

turning phone to portrait

tapping "start", then "X" ("close") - start menu opens and closes

tapping clock - wow, x2 working! :)

but after repeating this sequence 3-4 times upper bar stopped responding again.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi my friend,

I did what you asked me to to and I have no problems at all with X2. Are you by any chance using CleanRam? If yes, than that is the cause of your problem. To solve it, start CleanRam config - go to menu - settings - advanced - and check start Autorun programs. If you do that, your problem will be solved.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jjollyroger:
use a backup software!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] hjb012:
You can use skydrive or something from microsoft. Your myphone data will be ported to it, except the website favorites. You can also try MS Outlook for backing up your phone. Good luck with it.

Best regards,

HJ
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] z_harris:
Someone seen somethi like this? Why is that? Only the automatticaly rotate screen is on.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi my friend,

Did you enable full Manila Rotation in Artemis Center?

Because I never use full Manila Rotation, I activated it to see what happens if I rotate to landscape with the prog tab: alas, on my device this is working normally.

best regards, Kuzibri

P.S. Which upper/top taskbar app are you using?? Like it very much, especially the battery!!! I have my entire homescreen in B&W except the top taskbar for which I'm using now the Taskbar Win, aka 6Fg8 Taskbar.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi,

regarding website favorites: you can copy the \windows\favorites folder to your SD Card before flashing and copy it back after the new flash. Be sure to delete the \windows\favorites folder after the flash first before you copy this folder back from your SD card.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
PC Crash update

@ z_harris

@ extrapurifier

I managed to restore almost all of my data after the crash, except, besides several others important files, that "damn" txt file with all the custo's for my HD2. Besides that I'm still not able to sync my HD2 with WMC. Had that problem once before and in the end I succeeded in reastablishing the connection with my HD2. So, all in all, I'm working hard to get things up and running again and send you the info regarding tweaks, etc, ASAP, but possibly it will take some more time than I thought/expected. Damn it!! As long as computers do what they should do, they are fantastic machines, but once they fail on you it costs you tons of time to repair them again. Glad that my Email and Internet are working again!!! :confused:

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] trump98:
kuzibri, no - i'm not using CleanRam...

so, i've updated to v60 and things are the same with clean rom (no progz - only artemis center settings are restored)...

PS looks like z_harris uses this battery http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=750985
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
OK, are you using any other RAM cleaner?

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] z_harris:
Hi dear friend Kuzibri,

I do not use full manila rotation, only the rotate screen in settings/ sound & display. This thing is happened for the first time since I use Artemis rom. About the battery i use Attached File. I am a fan of Sir Sternas's Manila General Customizations (External)

For now this is all i use.

Best regards z_harris
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi,

many thanks for the link!! Alas, I reverted back to Taskbar Win, cause I like that more after all.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Snah001:
Dear friend Sir Sternas,

This is already old news of course but MS also closed down (or will be) Marketplace for WM6.5.

I have now your latest rom on 1 HD2 and Android TyphooN_CM7 2.3.4 on other HD2.

I tested yours and other CM7 and Tytung based roms and comparing them for 1 1/2 month now.

Well I think you must look at what is favorable from 2 perspectives as are one from users perspective and one from engineering/programmers perspective like you are.

Users perspective:

I think at the moment development of Android has reached the point that for the user it is very very usable, very stable and the Android Marketplace is full of very good and very usable apps, also for business use.

Even on the HD2 it works flawless and it gives the user all the tools to customize it to their own wishes without compromising the usability. All apps start very quick and using CWM for updating a rom it is possible to update without losing any personal data, installed apps etc. in a few minutes.

From the users point of view I think it evolved to the more desired system.

Programmers perspective

As already explained by you the programming of apk's for Android on Java base has it limits.

Looking where WM7 evolves to technically it will be a so much better system then Android.

But my concerns are that MS is way to late to bend things around in favor or WM7.

Your plans are also very respectable and I think at the end it will be a very good operating system where all the flaws of current operating systems are taken away.

But..., at the end the consumer decides and as owner of an own engineering company we often see that my engineers come up with brilliant ideas and solutions, but that in the end it not works for the client.....(often also budget related)

Often this means that we have to simplify designs (hard- and software) although from engineering point of view it would not be desirable but the customers whishes are always leading. We saw in the past Philips make such big mistakes like the video 2000 system that was far superior to VHS, but in the end the customer did not want it!!!

Both views are very important and for the developer it is never easy to let not prevail technical superiority over users wishes.

As said in the end the consumer decides and companies like HTC will always go the way the majority of the customers wants to go.

Remark

I to my regret see that the responses to your release and thread is way down of what it was before and seeing that at least 40% of the responses are posted by Kuzibri it only leads me to the conclusion that the customer, even the very critical ones using customized roms like yours, have already decided!!!

I do not know how many downloads your Rom V60 achieved but it must be visible there also.

This is not a statement for Android, Artemis Rom or whatever but only an (from my side) objective monitoring what is going on these days in the mobile world of customized roms.

Best regards and keep me informed on your very interesting progress in development!!!

Keep on going the good work!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] trump98:
i don't using ram cleaners at all.

moreover:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] trump98:
where is the button that switches "EnableAGPS" parameter in

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS] ?

i suppose i have seen it somewhere in one of my former rom's (and in that time have made .reg for quick restoring)...

have found this: manila's "settings" tab - location - AGPS. there are 3 controls:

1. "accuracy of positioning can be raised by gathering of the navigating data while using device", that switches "idle collection" in [HKLM\software\google\cll]

2. "HTC coordinates service", that switches "tos accepted" in [HKLM\software\google\cll]

3. "automatically disable coordinates detection in all HTC programs", that switches "DontShowAgreement" in [HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGeoService]

so, none of theese controls touch "EnableAGPS"...

PS my description of controls may be slightly different from that are used in wwe rom because i'm using russian one
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi,

OK, go to \windows\startup and see if there is a link called TaskManagerQuickLink. If not, search in the windows folder and copy it to \windows/startup.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Sir,

My opinion is that WP7 and Android are only marketing products...

Yes MS has new plan WP7 or Win Mobile 8

but NOT with WM 6.5.x

abilities

and this is a "Marketing Fact"

Artemis ROM will remain in WM 6.5.3 level, with my software.

I have publish here some samples/Tests of my new APIs (Win32/64, Linux32/64 and Wince)

for my free CodeTyphon visual IDE.

Future

As programmer I don't like "Close OS" things, like WM7 and Android.

You must build application for No1 OS OR for No2 OS.

This is NOT dilemma for me, these OSes are out of my scope...

same and for my 12 years Old Software House.

I am waiting for new "mobile OS", and I think this is not so far...:D

One similar first step is here

Now, we want

and

a new Smartphone with the "same philosophy"

But until this happen,

we have HTC HD2 smartphone with the best OS until now.

And if "Animations For the User" is the the primary target..:D

wait for next Artemis ROM... :D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bosone:
Hi Snah001,

Thank you for your post. Just my 2¢: Not everyone that uses and relies heavily on this ROM dos regularly post like Kuzibri. I did not have the time yet to test an Android build on my HD2. From time to time I install a new Artemis ROM when I have the feeling that it enhances my "experience". For the moment I have one application that work only on Windows Mobile, so no chance to switch for me.

Just if I will get some time to do a check, wich Android ROM do you use?

Thanks

Bosone
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Snah001:
Dear Sir Sternas,

Thanks for your honest response.

In my posting I not talked about "animations for users", but usability in all areas.

I hope your philosophy takes you where you want it to go, but what I tried to say is that it is the user who decides, of course for a large part pushed by marketing instruments.

When you would posses the same recourses as the big companies have then you could be successful, but in the end (even when your own build OS would be the very very best OS there is) it is the big money that pushes the market and will influence the customer.

Google and Apple together with companies like HTC have these recourses.

But limited to the HD2 there are 2 choices: Artemis V60 +++ and Android 3.3.4.+++

The user will decide which one he/she prefers to flash depending for what purposes they intend to use their HD2.

In the end most of them want to Email with as many accounts they want, multiple exchange accounts, flawless sms/mms, free Skype and other similar apps, lots of modding possibilities for home screen etc., good HD camera as well as for movies and pics, good large screen, navigation etc. etc. and for some people gaming will be a big issue without the need of restarting every 1 or 2 days to free up memory.

I agree with you that a real Linux based OS would be awesome but when there are not enough apps available then it has no chance. It would definitely bring your desktop pc to the mobile phone.

HTC and other big companies have the possibility and resources to develop a pure linux based mobile OS, but they didn't (maybe they tried but we never will know that for sure).

I am totally convinced that your plans will lead to a very good Mobile OS, but that alone is not good enough to be successful.

But we keep our fingers crossed for you.

And yes, we will await eagerly the next generation of your Rom.

@bosone

Read my signature......
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] scorpion44:
Low response

Al thou you have some valid points in your analysis,

the low response on the Artemis thread could be the result of a near perfect rom that Sternas came up with v60 and therefore users have no problems to report or ask for assistance. Personally, even thou I keep testing various Android builds and can see the appeal that it has on most users I am not prepared to remove WM6.5 and Artemis from my phone and my not posting often on this thread doesn’t mean I don’t use Artemis or follow the thread.

I just hope postings like yours will not discourage Sternas and he will keep working on his plans.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Snah001:
The excellent ROM of Sir Sternas has little to do with that.

One could derive from your reply that before Sir Sternas his Roms were not perfect, but they always were.

I Never said that the ROM was imperfect and after previous releases so many people reacted to his new builds and I not see that anymore.

It is only remarkable that one of the longest threads on XDA receive less and less responses so something must be going on. Just take a look at the HD2 Android Nand Rom section and look how many went away from WM6.5 in general. There must be something to it and not close your eyes for these developments that are going on.

Maybe it has to do something with the temporary closure of this thread a while ago or simply people who like to flash customized Rom's just want to test and try new things.

It can be that we do not like it but it also encourage Sir Sternas to speed up all his new development so the future Artemis ROM's will be that persuasive to encourage people to come back to this ROM series.

Important is to recognize that there is a huge competition and that we must support Sir Sternas in his efforts like I offered it myself.

But not ignore that there is a fierce competition that has made a huge step forward!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] trump98:
yes, it's there
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Different Angle

Hi all,

this is an interesting discussion in many ways, but you could also look at it from a different angle/point of view:

despite the huge competition of Android, Apple, tablets, etc, there is still a rather large group of people who stick to Artemis ROM because this ROM is, thanks to Sir Sternas, the most perfect WinMo 6.5.x ROM. He manages to survive in this big competition with these huge competitors with ease. Very few people are able to resist the big companies, but Sir Sternas does it all the way. His never failing devotion to not only (the development of) his ROM, but also their users (very important IMHO), is the biggest part of his popularity and therefore makes his ROM a very great success and that's all because of Sir Sternas himself and his group of co-workers. If you use Android, Apple or whatever, do you get support from the developers personally in case of problems? No you don't. Sir Sternas does offer this service without any obligation which is very important and highly appreciated by his followers/users. You can always address/post him with your problem and you will get an answer from him personally ASAP.

The diminishing attention is not only caused by the huge success of f.i. Android, but is also the result of "living in the fast lane" (media forcing to buy new things - newer is better, etc) and, IMO, also determined by an other important factor, namely the influence of the age of users on their choice of a certain OS.

Just my personal opinion.

best regards, Kuzibri

P.S. It's my firm belief that Sir Sternas will only be (more) encouraged by these kind of discussions and I agree fully with his philosophy about OS's. The only thing that's important for future developments of WinMo 6.5.x and Artemis ROM is full support to Sir Sternas!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Alas, now I'm out of options. Maybe somebody else can help you with your problem. Sorry!

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] adell_:
Agreed. In some thread there are a lot of activities and a lot of them are reporting issues. Currently, I use Android as the main OS but I still use WM 6.5 for internet sharing and alarm clock (G-Alarm).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi my friend,

I totally agree with you. I also will not "swap" Artemis ROM for Android. Rest assured, it's my firm belief that Sir Sternas will only be (more) encouraged by these kind of discussions and I agree fully with his philosophy about OS's. The only thing that's important for future developments of WinMo 6.5.x and Artemis ROM is full support to Sir Sternas!

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] heiner1111:
girls :)

whatever they critism............ keep cool.

my way to artemis was right and all you other guy,s feel free to do the same.

nice weekend to all
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] huismeester:
We have a luxury problem by Sir Sternas which is a perfect ROM

Through his dedication, we can now enjoy a very stable phone.

And the silence is the calm before the storm:D

best regards for all users
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Rarast:
Installed Artemis V60.0 NOR using the procedure given by the user scv (first removed HSPL and installed latest stock rom, then used SSPL to install V60).

As expected I got a lot of random restarts, as I always have with radio 2.15.50.14. Therefore I installed HSPL and then installed radio 2.07.51.22_2. Thereafter I removed HSLP again.

And now my "new" phone runs smoothly and extremly fast. Most of us don't bother to write when things works as expected, and that is why there are so few posts here lately, I think. There is hardly any reason to install new roms, as the old one works perfect.

Once again a big thank you to Sir Sternas for his brilliant work.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi,

I'm very glad that your device is running "like hell" and of course I do not want to intervene in something that goes very well. But, I do not understand why Radio 2.15 gives you random restarts. Is there an official HTC 3.14 Nor ROM? If yes, then 2.15 should not give that problems. I really do want to understand (am always very curious why things are going wrong) with this Radio version, cause IMO this is the best there is. Would you be so kind as to tell me your exact flashing procedure in order to investigate where the problem lies?

kind regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
=========================================

Starting Beta releases of the new "Lab" ArtemisCenter 61.0

Download AC Beta 610

Don't forget it's Beta

-Unzip copy executable to your SD Card and Run...

-Don't replace original ROM ArtemisCenter.exe

This beta version has new "Controls" more friendly for the user...

Please, post your suggestion or bugs...

=========================================
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] huismeester:
It looks very nice my friend thanks for your work
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi my dear friend,

just installed it and it looks very nice. How to add it to my homescreen Quicklinks? Cause all the time I want to add it, it chooses always the old=V60 one.

When you adjust the settings with the SD Card AC, will they also be stored and memorized by the device?

many warm greetings, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
This is beta my friend

and it's only the start..:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
My dear friend,

I have found a way to add the new AC to my homescreen quicklinks:

press the AC on your SD Card and select copy, Then copy this to \windows\startmenu and there will appear a file called "quicklink to Artemis Center" with the blue block as icon. Delete the old AC from your homescreen QL and add the new one. Done!! The only disadvantage of course is that the QL is called Quicklink to Artemis Center, but you can change that name. I changed it into QL AC.

many warm greetings, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
My respect my friend

Oh, colors on/of icons etc of new AC

can be change by the user...

I am trying to make this ability now...

...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Thanks my dear friend!!

You are absolutely amazing in your programming skills. As long as you are around, who needs WinMo7, Android, or whatever other OS??

many warm greetings, Kuzibri

P.S. How many downloads did you have from V60?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pellaud:
got a problem with the wifi router.. It forces a WEP encryption, nothing else, not even no encryption at all. My neW tablet accepts only no encryption and two other encryptios than WEP. Any clue on how to to untangle the mismatch?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
I have uploaded a new AC 61.0 version (same link at first page "Lab news")

with new color select dialog etc...

For tomorrow I've planed

Artemis OpenGL ES animations test releases... :D :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Can not wait for this release my dear friend!!

Downloaded also the new AC version and it works perfect!! I choose B/W theme and it works flawlesly!! Many thanks my dear friend!!

many warm greetings, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] SteveUK87:
Working brilliant up until now.

Looks great with the new colours keep it up.

And going to test the Artemis OpenGL ES animations.

Thanks for the great work.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ChefChaudart:
@Kuzibri

Hello,

alittle bit off topic :o

I switched back to CHT 1.8.5 ( bored by the bugs of v.2 ).

I just have a small problem on lockscreen, "Lock on stand by" has no effect !?

Have you an idea ?

Cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
could you describe the bugs a little more you had with v2? when i'm on winmo i don't experience any bugs
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Rarast:
I did the following:

0. Removed HSLP

1. Installed the 3.14 NOR stock rom (this also give me random restarts).

2. Installed Artemis V60.0 NOR using SSPL (hard reset after step 1 and 2, the a soft reset)

My previous experiences have learned me that radio 2.15 would cause random restarts. (I have One Call as my network provider, and they use mostly the network from Telenor, so technically I am roaming all the time.) And my predictions were correct, I had 8-10 restarts the first two days. Therefore:

3. Installed HSPL

4. Installed radio 2.07

5. Removed HSPL (only soft reset after step 4 and 5)

And my phone has now been running flawlessly for several days with no random restarts. I suspect there are some network settings causing the trouble, but I really have no clue where to look. The battery lasted much longer with the new radio, so it is a pity I cannot make it work on my phone. But I am used to charge every night so it is not a big issue.

Greetings, Rarast
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Guys I have upload new BETA AC version 61.0

-with new "LED" (on/off controls)

-LEDs and Cauge customizations Forms

-Update color picker form

Download from same link at the first post "Lab news"

A question

Until now AC forms background color and Text Colors

are same with WM selected theme colors

Do you want to make a customization Form for this?

oh, some screens ...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] z_harris:
Hi Sir Sternas,

Thanks sir for the upload new AC. Is that mean that soon we wel have a ne V61. Just curious.

Regards z_harris
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Sir

Artemis ROM Ver 61.0 will have new AC

but NO ETA yet

I must finish AC first ...:o

please your suggestions..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
your winmo roms are almost perfect... maybe it's time for android, and show the other guys how programming works...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
I am working and on the new Artemis Home screen

also...:D

with Full OpenGL ES
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
and sure i will test it... looking forward to anything new you are programming... including android ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] huismeester:
It is absolutely fantastic Sir:)