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[HD2 General] GodsGift:
SMS Chat does this... there is an iphone skin.

http://iwindowsmobile.com/threaded-sms-messaging.html
[HD2 General] mndl632:
this was linked to on the xda homepage http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=629875 not sure if it will work with sense as it seems to be designed to change the colours and theme for the standard WM messaging program
[HD2 General] king_of_da_kingz:
is there any way to install that sms on HTC HD2 ?
[HD2 General] socialwill:
So I am looking at getting the HD2 to replace my 3Gs iPhone. I actually just tried a Nexus One and while it is a great device there are some items that need to be addressed, mainly in the fit and finish side, plus full out of box Exchange support.

SO, with that said. I noticed MobileCity has the HD2 for $719 and this feels like a good price for this device. It is however the import version and the guy on the phone said it will NOT work in any USA 3G system.

My question is this, with a ROM update will this device work just fine on the T-Mobile 3G system today?

Thanks!
[HD2 General] BigE:
Current HD2 will not work 3G US

Please note that the hardware of the HD2 is only 1900/2100 bands. For 3G in the USA you will need 1700Mhz for T-Mo or 850Mhz for AT&T.

No softwre will do it, if the radio band is not supported by hardware. Rumor says T-MO will have the US version of HD2 by the end of Q1/2010. my guess is April 2010. Note that if you are on AT&T even unlocking will not work for you even then.

Personally- I 'lost' my 3G by buying the current HD2 model. It worth it, as for SMS/emails the 3G is not needed, and I can have WiFi free hot spots ..
[HD2 General] socialwill:
Bummer, but a glimmer of hope there....

So you saying you do not miss the 3G service at all? I would also be in wifi coverage at home and in the office, heck I could even just stay with AT&T for now. Would you be able to compare it to an iPhone 3GS?

I thought that the HD2 radios were the same for both the US and the Europe versions as they are quad-band radios and it was just a software update for the radios.
[HD2 General] NeilM:
There are now 4 distinct locality based versions of the HD2 with different radio bands for UMTS/3G

Quad band refers only to the GSM element, not UMTS :(
[HD2 General] socialwill:
Well slap me and call me Susan, I did not know there were 4 units...which one is the device I should look at then even if it would not work on 3G?
[HD2 General] NeilM:
There you go Susan- details on PDAdb :)
[HD2 General] socialwill:
Great! Thanks for the link.

Anyone able to say they are happy they went from a 3GS to the HD2? If so, why?
[HD2 General] lude219:
No offense, but PDAdb is utter trash. 4 different units of HD2? The Tmo US having 900/2100? Another HD2 US having 850/1900? Tmo US is on a 1700/2100 UMTS so no, that link to Tmo US HD2 is completely wrong. When did the 850/1900 HD2 was even mentioned anywhere on the net? AFAIK, the closeless you'll come to AT&T 3G is the australian version which has 850/2100 UMTS. I'd be careful giving people that link with unsubstantiated information.
[HD2 General] socialwill:
Thanks. What device do you have?
[HD2 General] socialwill:
So now the question is would it be better to wait for the T-Mobile version or go with a current device?
[HD2 General] lude219:
So I'm assuming that you have T-Mobile? If you do, just wait for the Tmo version to be release around March. That's all you need to know if you want Tmo 3G.

In case you want AT&T 3G, there's no news of 850/1900 band other than the Australian version that i talked about above. The Australian version is coming out at the end of this month.
[HD2 General] omershahab:
Damn..now the question is whether to wait for the Australian version or just get it tonight from eBay.
[HD2 General] BigE:
iPhone 3Ha vs. HD2

had both. there is no way the iPhone beats the HD2 in any category but battery. but you can have two batteries...

the iPhone is slower , bloated, had to be jail broken of you consider any customizing, and must have itunes and Apple support. not for me. was a bitter trial.

why EBay? see www.networkingrus.com . got 3 phones from them already.

bigE
[HD2 General] socialwill:
What makes networkingrus.com so good? Just curious, but I like the site.
[HD2 General] socialwill:
No, actually I am on AT&T so it would be a break of contract to move to T-Mobile, however it would be a cheaper data plan over all..

What are most people using here? T-Mobile or AT&T for the HD2?
[HD2 General] omershahab:
I'm using AT&T without data plan.
[HD2 General] FunMCRider:
I am on T-Mobile simply for the fact I save $50 dollars a month for the inconvenience of only having the Edge network.
[HD2 General] socialwill:
How are you doing that?
[HD2 General] socialwill:
How is the device on Edge only? Part of me wants to move now, however the other part of me says if I am going to get a device on T-Mobile, why not just wait for the 3G edge version from T-Mobile.
[HD2 General] tjex:
In the US it's going to be Edge only. I'm using it in Canada (Edge only again) but to be honest, haven't really missed much. I don't surf on it that much and I'd rather do it over Wifi anyways (home/office)
[HD2 General] lancguy:
I've had my HD2 (unlocked) since Nov 2009.:) I'm on AT&T and Edge works fine for my needs. I use RSS and browse lightly when not on WiFi. I get my Exchange mail fine and all browsers work fine. Video is the only thing that's slow. (oh yeah, voice dialing too...)

My SIM is non-3G, so I'd have to do some maneuvering to get a 3G card anyway.

AT&T is lost without the 3GS. They refuse to see what great phones and technologies are out there because they are too cozy (see: lazy). If they treated the 3GS the same way they treat the Touch2, the 3GS would die on the vine. The only thing the 3GS has over the HD2 is a CLOSED marketplace. That's where AT&T and Apple make their money. (It's like HP and their printers; only make money on the cartridges).

Give up my HD2 because of no 3G? Never!!! I'd only give it up if there was an HD3.
[HD2 General] FunMCRider:
Here are the pros and cons as I see it. And of course I am not known for waiting to try new toys. I bought this unbranded HD2 so I can pop my work AT&T SIM card in when I travel out of T-Mobile service areas. If T-Mobile was in more markets I travel to then I might have waited for the branded Phone. The biggest pain on T-Mobile with an unbranded phone is that MMS messaging will not send unless you change the MMS Network Address.

As far as using the Edge network I don't find it too slow but My Xperia X1a will not connect 3G to their network either. If you check facebook or myspace or any other big picture sites then I would suggest waiting. But if you just check email, weather, movies and banking then it is tolerable.
[HD2 General] d.cortez:
Telstra HD2 version that supports 850 mHz at&t 3G supposedly available 01/19/10. all you need is $1G. too pricey for me at the moment. personal preference is to have a 3G HD2. if the price drops to $850 (or less), i'm in. on the other hand, if this weekend's NFL playoff investments yield a good return i'll reconsider my decision. :)
[HD2 General] socialwill:
I think I am going to wait to see what T-Mobile does because I feel that two things will happen at that time. 1) There will be a cheaper (with contract) HD2 that as 3G on T-Mobile and 2) There might even be cheaper unlocked versions as the price would prob drop to around $599 for an unlocked phone (my guess) 3) 6.5.3 or whatever it is called should be loaded on the device and will be a launch device from MS for the updated 6.5 OS.

It sounds like a good idea to wait just a few more weeks.

(Ohh, that was 3 reasons and not 2 but its all good!) :o
[HD2 General] tbfl:
Is there a good chance other online Aussie retailers may have this for a little less?

On Telstra's own site they list the phone as $829 (I am assuming thats AUD) to buy the phone outright.......if you do that I would think it would have to be unlocked wouldn't it ?

http://www.telstra.com.au/shop/Cons...01&categoryId=16103&ddkey=http:ProductDisplay
[HTC Startrek] pgmanq:
Hi,

Ive been facing some trouble downgrading from an unlocked Win 6.1 by Erofich back to the default imate smartflip win5 ROM.

I followed the steps of a standard install, get the SPL screen, and then run the RUU from the PC, but its gives me an Error 260.

I have installed several Win 6.1 ROMs without issue. Never had to go back to win 5. Can someone tell me what Im doing wrong?

Thanks for the help.

Edit: Im running ActiveSync (Sync Center) on Win 7. I was reading elsewhere in this forum about having to be on XP to downgrade. Can someone confirm this.
[HTC Startrek] aldo0203:
yes, you need a pc with windows xp sp2, obviously you need to make a cid unlock
[HTC Startrek] TheJ0ker:
XP mode

You can download for free of microsoft the virtual machine called xp mode. and attach the usb to the virtual machine and do it that way, without having to find another machine with xp on
[HTC Startrek] freibooter:
If your Windows installation does not support Microsoft's "XP mode" (e.g. because you're not running Windows 7 Pro/Ultimate or Enterprise or your CPU doesn't support visualization) installing your old Windows XP license in the free http://www.virtualbox.org will do just as well, maybe even better. :)

Also, I never really had any issues running any RUU on Windows Vista or Windows 7, usually running it as admin or temporarily disabling UAC should do just fine - you can also try the XP compatibility mode (not to be mistaken for XP mode).
[HD2 General] ian_uk1975:
A lot of people have complained about the HD2 camera, but here are a view examples of shots I took over the last week that show it can still take some pretty nice shots. All have been retouched in Photoshop for artistic effect...
[HD2 General] spritable:
Can you please share you camera settings? Like White Balance, Contrast, Sharpness, etc. Do you change them for different type of lighting?
[HD2 General] d3l1:
the second and forth pictures are awesome, makes me wanna go out there and try the camera out more myself :)
[HD2 General] ian_uk1975:
To be honest, the camera settings are pretty irrelevant due to the amount of post-processing performed. However, I use +4, +3, +4.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martint235:
Hi,

I know there have been threads on this before but largely they just mention installing the Vista 64 bit drivers (done that). I'm running Windows 7 64 bit with the Vista 64 bit drivers and MCR 2.8 (although I was on stock and 2.2 with the same problem). HTC Sync on the phone just will not find it on the PC. I can mount the SD card with no trouble, just problems with Sync.

Any suggestions as to what I can do? Please feel free to direct me to another thread that I've missed so long as it's not just about the drivers.

Ta

M
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] princedwi:
In addition to HTC sync and the drivers, have you tried getting the android sdk? I know that I had issues with HTC sync finding my phone as well when syncing it to Win7 x64, so try following this guide here, it might allow HTC sync to view the phone properly. The guide teaches you how to setup adb-usb drivers which might trigger the application to know that your phone is there.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FloridaK:
I had the same problem, turns out one of the task killer apps that I had been using had killed the sync process. Might be a plan to check if the same has happend to you.

Florida.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martint235:
Hi Princedwi and Florida,

Thanks for the replies. I'm confident that my sync process is still running as I've tried numerous reboots of phone and PC so the task killer wouldn't have had chance to stop the process. However I will give it a go just to make sure.

Regarding the SDK, I'll try that when I get home. I used to have the SDK installed but then I did a re-install of windows and haven't bothered installing the sdk yet. May well work, I'll let you know.

Ta

M
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martint235:
Hi,

Ok tried it at home. The SDK isn't installing in the same way as I remember it doing last time. A DOS box flashes up and then disappears when I run SDK setup.exe.

Any other ideas?

Ta

M
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yrreP:
2.0.18 is out now... should be W7 compatible -

http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=847&news_id=471
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] igalan:
I had to install the Vista 64 bits drivers twice to get them working properly. The first time my hero appeared as "HTC Hero ADB". Rebooted, connected to USB, opened notifier, selected PC-Sync and reinstalled drivers (always choosing the folder where HTC should be leaving their drivers). This second time it appeared as "MY HTC" and it worked fine then. So just try again until you see the magic word "My HTC".
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bram_smulders:
I've installed it today on my 7 64bit ultimate installation, and still no avail, i installed the vista x64 drivers and it worked.

Gr. B
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zophar78:
Because from android 1.6 setup process has changed in SDK. Normally it opens a windows from where you can add the version of android SDK you want and install the driver.

Same problem here with windows 7 64bit. Not sure if it's related to java environnement installed (For example when i installed JRE on my win7 64 the JAVA_HOME env variable was not set, i had to do it manually).

Nope for now but if I found the problem be sure i'll post it here.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zophar78:
Ok I found the solution. My problem is that I've installed only the JRE but according to the requirements (developer.android.com/intl/fr/sdk/requirements.html) we need the JDK also.

So i've uninstalled the JRE 1.6 (64bit) I had, and installed the JDK 1.6 (32bit as i saw many ppl having problem with 64bit and android SDK). And it worked, I run againg the "SDK Setup.exe" and it opened the windows as intended.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexchuck:
I had the same problem, even with 2.0.18. what I did was install HTC Sync 2.0.18 (with the drivers copied in Program Files\HTC\HTC Driver\Vista_x64). then go to device manager, ADB interface, update driver, browse for a list of compatible software and choose My HTC.

after rooting it (although I'm not sure this is the cause) it happened now and then to fail to get recognized by the computer so I followed the same steps to update the drivers to My HTC.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] igalan:
I can't install HTC Sync 2.0.18, it gives an error about some resource file not found and closes. I tried on two different computers with the same result. Anyway 2.0.8 works fine here after I reinstalled the 64 bits driver until it was detected as "My HTC".
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xlxl:
the same for me.

after update to version 2.0.18 my win7 64bit didnt find my phone anymore...:mad:
[General Questions and Answers] Hal_rr:
Hi,

The Dreambox is a series of Linux-powered DVB satellite, terrestrial and cable digital television receivers (set-top box), produced by German multimedia vendor Dream Multimedia.

I'm getting tired to see all these Iphone apps capable of managing the Dreambox and nothing in our WIMo environment

I'm sure one of our contrubutor should be able to build one app such as this one for exemple : Idream Remote fot Iphone
[General Questions and Answers] tilleke:
Interesting - I wasn't aware of the existence of these kind of applications for the Dreambox.

Well, when I find some sparetime, in a week or two, I might have a look at it. I don't know how the iPhone communicates with the dreambox (I don't think it uses infrared or similar) but my guess would be that it uses the WebIf of the Dreambox to change channel, volume-control and so on.

In order to use WebIf (or telnet), please be aware that your Dreambox must be connected to your network which at the same time is accessabile by your phone.

I don't have a Dreambox (I had one but it broke) but I do have an IpBox which is also running Enigma 1 so if it works on my IpBox, it should also work on your Dreambox running Enigma 1. I don't know about Enigma 2 but I think the WebIf is the same so it should work as well.

If you're still interested, please let me know.
[General Questions and Answers] Hal_rr:
You're exactly right, it uses the WebInf and has nothing to do with infrared type connectivity.

I can reach the WebInf from the Internet with my HD2 but I guess there's probably an issue between Opera and the way they have coded their interface.

You're help will be much appreciated ...$$
[General Questions and Answers] tilleke:
Which dreambox (enigma) do you have?
[General Questions and Answers] t0flus:
I made a windows mobile remote for my dreambox but I suck bigtime at GUI :) I don't remember how far I got on the .dll that controls the box but I did manage to send most of the keys you find on the normal remote control and zap between channels by browsing your bouquets and channels in a listview on the phone.

As I've switched to the iPhone I stopped the development but If you guys need help remote controlling the box by posting http queries to webif please let me know and I'll help you!

Øystein
[General Questions and Answers] Hal_rr:
I own a DreamBox 8000 HD running enigma 2.

It is a truly fantastic piece of technology!
[General Questions and Answers] tilleke:
Hej!!

I am currently having a look at the source-code of Enigma http://cvs.tuxbox.org/tuxbox/tuxbox/apps/tuxbox/enigma/src/ to see if I can trace the syntax of common http-queries needed, at least for the most basic operations such as zapping and so on. What regards Enigma2, I found a nice wiki for the Enigma2-webinterface.

I am also trying to figure out if I can do common operations also by telnet.

I very much appreciate your offer for help and if I get stuck, I will definetely get back to you (screaming for help) :)

Tack ska du ha. Nu ska jag sova :)
[General Questions and Answers] t0flus:
Send me a DM 8000 and I'll send you a remote control ;)

As far as I know my application only works for Enigma 1.....

Øystein
[General Questions and Answers] Hal_rr:
Well you see I personally think, watching TV on such a small screen is probably not priority one but rather being able to set recording timer, EPG ..etc all these options which are available on webinf would be much welcome.
[General Questions and Answers] ajocius:
This would be great app. I have DM7000 (Enigma1) and DM800 (Enigma2) and HTC HD2 ready to test out. My dream application would be possibility to change bouquets and channels using mobile device and also be able receive streaming video to the mobile device. This is all possible and I use a PC with VLC to reduce the size of video stream , but I need to do all of this manually today. Log on to Webif ofdreambox, change channel, then log on to the 24/7 PC that runs VLC (via remote of course) stop the stream, open new stream from dreambox. Then catch that stream with coreplayer on mobile phone. As you can see it is very difficult. But result is great, I am really satisfied with video quality.
[General Questions and Answers] t0flus:
What kind of parameters do you start vlc with to transcode the signal to a format that the Window Phone can handle? And which player do you use on the phone?

Øystein
[General Questions and Answers] ajocius:
Will respond when at home on the vlc parameters.

I watch video with CorePlayer. Here is the preview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts4QCfFzYPA

Video is taken while watching through WiFi. DM stream is reduced to 2Mbs, works great, video quality is really good. Didn't try through 3G or similar. But just imagine once 4G kicks in ( I see you might be from Norway, I am in Norway too), you can basically watch good quality video wherever you are (if it does not cost to much to use network:) )
[General Questions and Answers] t0flus:
I'm from Norway. When it comes to streaming to the internet my ADSL upload bandwidth is the biggest problem. I've ordered fiber and hope to have it installed this summer :)

So you start VLC manually each time you need to stream? And if you switch channel you need to restart VLC with different paramters since the stream from the dreambox has changed? Am I right? Which OS is your VLC transcoder running on?

Øystein
[General Questions and Answers] ajocius:
I am running VLC on Windows Server 2003. Same can be done on XP.

Yes, I need to stop VLC manually. I do that by logging in remotely into my server and clicking stop button. If I want to switch channel, I need to log to DM Webif and change channel there, then on Server stoP VLC and open new stream from DM. Basically, due to this complexity, I rarely watch tv on mobile. In fact I set up Discovery channel (since I watch it most) and when I want to watch it on mobile, I log on to DM Webif , change channel to Discovery and then just open stream on Coreplayer on mobile.

All of these steps in theory can be on mobile device. Ideally, there would be functionality to read channel list (only when needed) from Dreambox into WM device memory. Then there are command lines that can be executed to change channel on DM. At least I have at some point did it from my Win XP PC. Then there are command lines to stop VLC and reopen new stream with all parameters. And then there should be a way to stop and restart coreplayer stream...
[General Questions and Answers] t0flus:
Same setup as me....

I already developed a remote to my WM device that can zap channels based on the bouquets. You get a list of your bouqets and you switch to whatever channel you want. This is done by connecting directly to WebIf by HTTP queries. It's not ready to be released but it works...most of the time :)

About watching video I'm thinking of a solution where the mobile client contacts an Asp.Net server by either webservice og regular http to start the stream. The server will close any instances of VLC that's already running, fetch the current stream from the dreambox and start VLC again with the proper transcode parameters.

Fetching the stream from the dreambox is easy and already implemented.

Stopping and starting VLC works is OK.

The only thing missing on the server is the transcoding part....

On the mobile client:

Expanding the GUI with a "Watch" button.

Store additinal settings for server ip/host and credentials....

Starting Coreplayer with the server path once a confirmation has been received from the server.

/Ø
[General Questions and Answers] ajocius:
Anything I can do to help? testing? donation? I am not a programmer, so can't add much help with improving the program...

Not sure what transcoding difficulties you have met. Doing it manually is quite straightforward. There is a command line description of commands here:

http://www.videolan.org/doc/play-howto/en/ch04.html

There are some projects that kind of works, but just on PC platform. Can some ideas be taken from them? I have in mind m4rtin solution, or some other.
[General Questions and Answers] ajocius:
By the way, I see that success of this project also depends on having right Enigma version, DM image, VLC version, unless somebody can make a flexible app allowing to select all these parameters.

I have DM7000 (Enigma 1) and DM800 (Enigma 2), both running Gemini image (do not remember version number now). VLC version is 0,86. Changing VLC version is absolutely not a problem, of course.
[General Questions and Answers] ajocius:
By the way, if you plan to invest your time into this project, it would be great to have profiles to select, that would contain different streaming settings. Let say when you are home, IP address to the server might be 192.168.1.1 for exemple and you can aford 2Mbs stream size (although I am not sure it makes sense to have more than 800 X 480 around 400kbs). Once you are outside home, you but have good Wifi connection, you can select another profile, where IP of server is *****.dyndns.org and stream is set to 3-400 kbs (depending on up speed of your line). When you have week signal, you might want to lower bitrate further.

So profiles would be great!