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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
No need for both, they provide the same function. Swap partition is preferred over swap file if you're able.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
How about using compcache and backing swap ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
This is a very nice build. Thanks a lot. I'm currently using it on my Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
Is it just me, or the 4 partition conf file is not using the swap partition?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
First I want to thank the developers for their hard work.

Unfortunately this build seems to be very slow, the swap file was default enabled in the conf.

The first time it booted it crashed the second time it worked fine, but very slow.

Is there a way I can check that the swapfile is actually used?

Also the SIMcard isn't detected anymore after the first crash, it was before it crashed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
you can check if ur using swap by typing "free" in the Terminal, or get the android system info app. You can try the default conf file at the 1st post that just does compcache, think i added the swap as default to the full build.

It is for me.. edit the file in android using a folder viewer or notepad in windows...or it should look like this..

make sure swap file and linux swap set to "0". swappiness set to "60". Also make sure that the linux partition is pointing to mmcblk0p4

Swap file only users config the following :

compcache=0, backingswap=0, swap file=1, linux swap=0, swappiness=60...any other configs you should get the picture..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ycode90:
This build is nice works faster than I was expecting for Hero.

One question.

Where should music files be ?

It's not seeing "Music" folder on the root of my card.

*Edit* Cleared data and rebooted music is there . Man I wish i had a job I'd donate. I'm lovin this one even with the bugs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ahernandez4110:
Just wanted to say that I love it.... The only thing my metroPCS web wont browse. Thats about it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Disturbed21:
Hi, Just wandering is there anyway you can check out the krenel Hack made for the Eclair...Have tested it but once you enter the sleep properly it won't wake up. It saves a lot of battery, I like your build a lot more especially for HTC Sense.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Have tested it too and had no problems with it, but with this build you can use a zimage from before the enclair builds. Try and different panel type in ur default.txt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] GUY251:
Hello chef

i think im missing here, its not working

is it supose to be a data file of 128m or 256m

i dont see it here
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Had this problem too. But after a few reboots, it found my music :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Milmirex:
Hi there.

This is a great build, fast and responsive, but it can be connected to PC by USB port and transfer files to sd card?, in the icon of USB to PC i did select Memory card or something, but Windows not recognize the memory. Any help?

Thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jboussidan:
First time install

Hello,

Like many others, I am fed up with WinMo, and would like to try Android on my Kaiser. Where could I find install instructions for a first-timer?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Havent tested that yet..never really had success with that in any android build. Try leaving it in usb while you bootup..you might need the drivers for your comp.

Try this site should have some useful info for you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jboussidan:
First time install

@ajclai08

Thanks for the site link. I have figured it out, and the device has been uploading the system for the last 35 min so far. Is this normal behavior? Do I have to reexecute HaRET everytime I reset my device or can Android be set as default boot OS?

Thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Milmirex:
At this time, Android cannot be your default OS, you have to use Haret to boot up, but you can use it for every day the stable builds, try the one in this thread, is amazing and stable for me but usb sd memory access is not working by now.

Good Luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Noticed that sometimes, wifi does not turn on and I have to reboot the phone to get the wifi working again. Anyways, I changed some files on the rootfs.img and replaced the tiwlan.ini to get it to work all the time. This build is really fast and works great. Thanks devs :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] GUY251:
finelly its working, what a nice work ,i realy like it.

every body writes that its realy fast, but i think that i am missing something here, i dont know why but on my tilt its realy slow,i have to wait about 30 sec for each button pushing

i change the rom for solace 3.1 , i have sd 32fat no paratition and all the files on it

what can be the problem ?

sorry im new here !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jboussidan:
HaRET execution time...

Hello,

Can someone specify how long does it take for HaRET to execute? It seems to go on forever, and I do not understand what can be wrong on my end? Any clarification on install instructions as well as files used (I have used the full package and the partition user.conf files posted on the first port of this thread) will be appreciated.

It seems that it does timeout on instruction set blocks with no apparent reason.

thank you for your help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Disturbed21:
Hi, it should not take more than 5-10 minutes if you are running it for the first time but try and check what it is telling you in the boot screen.... if it still does not take you into Android and the logo appears try changing settings in the default.txt or startup.txt, or u can try this system.sqsh with a different baseline ( different files probably android Ion or donut recommended from these forums) also try the latest user.conf (4 partitions...) it is much faster and and stable than all the rest. If it gets stuck before you reach the ANDROID text than you might want to check your space on the memory card...it needs about 256 mb at least for data file. Try copying the files again if it still does not work or try different baseline.

Oh and almost forgot make sure you extracted the files directly in the SD card not in a folder (it needs to be on the root folder of the SD card) only folder u must have is the conf folder the rest should be directly on the sd
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jboussidan:
Another precision...

When transferring the files to the SD card (via ActiveSync) I got a message notifying that the files are converted to a suitable format. Is this OK?

If I want to format my microSD card (8GB) again, how do I do that using ActiveSync and thru the device?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Disturbed21:
No clue how to do it using ActiveSync, is it is ok for files are converted...just make sure that haret.exe , zimage......is in the main sd card location not in a folder.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] davebm:
I used to run Android on haret many months ago, those builds we not the most stable. Lately I wanted to get the latest build up and see the progress. Sadly however when trying to boot up it says it cannot mount the sd card..

Does anyone have some advice on how to fix this? Been googling all day with no luck
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jboussidan:
Help needed...

Hello,

Cannot manage to get HaRET to execute properly, and it is so frustrating to not understand what is going wrong.

I have downloaded the full package from post 1, replaced tattoo.user conf file to the 4 partition version, as instructed.

I am using an 8GB microSD card whipped clean, and copied all files to its root.

ActiveSync has file conversion settings disabled, and yet it cannot load properly. The loader get stuck and runs forever.

Thanks for your kind help and assistance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] davebm:
what rom and phone are you using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jboussidan:
phone and ROM used...

I am using a TyTN II with:

ROM Version: TPC_V11_MEGA_WWE

Radio Version: 1.70.19.09

Runs WinMo 6.5 (Build 23017.4.0.0)

What is wrong with all this?

Thanks for your help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jboussidan:
Can not boot it up...

After trying so many times to have this to boot up properly, I am sorry but I am gonna give up on this one. Too bad as it looked promising.

Thanks to all those who tried to help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] GUY251:
that would be great, i am with you friend !

Is your kaiser going fast with this android tattoo version, mine become so slow and i realy dont know why ???

Maybe u can mail me at - rabbigoa@gmail.com

thanks budy !!! :);)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TRIUMF:
how to use android with partitions? made fat32, ext2, ext3 and swap partitions. Tried usind conf for 4 partitions and it stops booting in the midle..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ycode90:
you need 1 fat 32, 2 ext2 , 1 linux swap.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Well... in general it would be nice to have more localization options with Android builds. I know, there is for example full Czech localization, but it is I guess only built in Eclair... I vote for Czech (and other locs) in every build too :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] smoky-jr:
i try it once and it's run smooth with my device.

try run it with another rom maybe the problem now it's with your correct rom.

For more developments about the Hebrew go to the following link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=613826&page=5

go to post 44.

Cheers.

:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Try and get another donut build to boot...then switch the files for the tattoo build. Make sure you use the default, or swap file user.config as well and delete any old data file. Otherwise you can just wait for the 2.1 Tattoo build that should pop up within the next month or so.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
the full build i used didn't have swap or compcache, i now use the one with 4 partitions.

it still is kinda slow but is much improved, how come the sense home reloads after opening a couple of apps?

anything i can do about that? use more swap?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
updated the 4 partition user.config for 64MB partitions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] GUY251:
i ram it with wm 6.1 - solace 3.1.........shifu v20 - which are fast

when i want to end frogram it takes 20-30 sec

i had aproblem that the haret said to check ddr so i looked on the default.text file and i have nothing about RAMADDR so i added this line myself :set RAMDDR 0x10000000

now its working but still very slow

please tell me is it supose to be a data file of 256M ???

help !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
Thanks, it's a little better now, but after booting I have to wait for about a minute before I can do anything and the first time I start certain applications Phone, Gmail, Messages it takes very long

Also I got a few timeout messages from the application ...Touch; sometimes it's not very responsive.

Market works without tricks but when searching I have to wait for about 10 seconds before the search field gets input from the (hardware)keyboard.

I ran free;

total used free shared buffers
Mem: 93484 91784 1700 0 1444
Swap:24572 23924 648
Total (you can do math :))

so I guess it's still too little free memory... unless you interpret differently
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] smoky-jr:
the data file Should be 256MB.

i run in my device wm6.5 Build 23515 (SEVEN 3.5 ROM) Radio 1.71.09.01,

and it's fast rom and the android it's rum fast with no problem.

try the rom.

:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
You need the linux swap partition to be 64 mb. Mine looks like this..

---------Total/ Used/ Free

Mem: 93484/ 91784/ 1700

Swap: 64500/ 32500/ 3200
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Disturbed21:
Hey just a question so what are the memory sizes u changed? (like the actual name and what size u put on)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Milmirex:
This build is working great for me, but i have a problem, there is no ringer tone!!!, the phone shows incoming call at the screen, but has no sound, i already change the tone, set the volume to the top and uncheck the vibrate feature, without success, anyone can help me?

Thanks in advance.

BTW, is the best build ever !!! (only Eclair is better, but the battery issue is so bad)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Hopefully we'll be using the 2.1 Tattoo build when it comes out..I think theres numerous qvga android phones coming out from htc this year.

I made the linux swap partition 64mb, Only thing about this is it will use all of the extra memory and can slow down the device over time. I might test memory limits, but right now in the 4 partition user config has a limit set to 64.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] GUY251:
ok i changed rom and radio and its more fast now but at the sense home screen its realy slow ?

And what about the deafult file ,did you checked about the ddr ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jamezelle:
you guys should use this tattoo.user.conf file if you are experiencing slowness
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Disturbed21:
Hi, already tested that one, It is the one from the first post, It is quite good but the issue is if you open..a Internet bookmark and email after (roise will reload) so it still reloads quite often.

(have tried 64,64,64) that is one of the most stable but it does slow down the device a bit especially if you are getting a call for me it takes 6-7 seconds to wakeup and load and about 5 seconds when its on. Have tired to increase ram (128)(fails bad), (90 and/or some 64) works but its takes 9-10 seconds to wakeup and load call and about 7 when its on so that is not good :D

I know have (32,64,32) and it gets the call in 3-4 seconds and 5 when it is in sleep so yeah it really helped making the 24 into 32.

I also notice something tha Linux swap file in the one supplied is set to 0 (deleate the swap partition) not 1...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] noside12123:
Market

So Yeah. I tried the Market Fix thing and the screen resolution fix. I could see the whole market when i set my default.txt to 320x480 and 160 Lcd Density. But when ! switched back to QVGA, I was not able to see the whole market.(240x320 120 LCD Dens.) What's wrong D:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
This is what's in the user.conf in the first post and I haven't changed anything (the 4 partitions version):

#compcache related parameters
compcache{
compcache_en=1	# enable(1) or disable(0) compcache
cc_disksize=24	# Ram swap disksize - any number between 1 to 98 should work; default is 1/4 of the RAM (24)
cc_memlimit=32	# Limit the memory usage for backing swap (cc .5x known issue-defaults to 15% of total RAM)
cc_backingswap_en=1	# enable(1) or disable(0) backing swap
cc_backingswap=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4 # pointing to the backingswap partition device, swap
}

#create swap file for compcache or linux swap
swap_file{
swap_file_en=0	# set to 1 to create swap file
# set to 0 to del the swap file
linux_swap_file_size=32	# swap file size in MB
linux_swap_file=/sdcard/swapfile	# pointing to the swap file location ( must be /system/sd/)
}

#Linux swap parameters
#
# linux swap can only be enabled if cc_backingswap_en is set to "0"
#
linux_swap{
linux_swap_en=0	# enable(1) or disable(0) linux swap
linux_swap_partition=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4 # swap partition device
}

this must be where the 24 meg swap comes from:

cc_disksize=24	# Ram swap disksize - any number between 1 to 98 should work; default is 1/4 of the RAM (24)

isn't it? so this should be 64?

I don't get the following:

swap_file_en=0	# set to 1 to create swap file
linux_swap_en=0	# enable(1) or disable(0) linux swap

why are they disabled?

what's the difference between those?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Disturbed21:
The best you can do at least that is what works for me:

cc_disksize=32 (you can put 64 but i notice than that it gets a little sluggish when u receive calls like it takes 6 minutes and almost 8 when it is in sleep)

cc_memlimit=64 (the lates first post the one with 64.... already has this)

linux_swap_file_size=32 (if u change this to a bigger number i notice that it is very slow)

as for:

I have tired enabling them but they make the whole thing much to slow (i guess its creating another 2 partitions.....)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Try use backingswap with a linux swap partition of 64mb, and no swap file, with a limit of ccram=32 and disk size=24, i dont get that much sluggishness.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
thanks for the advice I will try this

could you give me your conf file?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Here use this conf file..tell me if it's faster ;), this is also on the 1st post, thanks to jamezelle. This is the only conf file you need right now:). Should work without partitions on sdcard as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] smoky-jr:
I did not check the ddr,

i dont know why the sense home screen is slow,

I do not use this android version.

If you have more questions send me a p.m.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dr3w2k:
Are the files in the first post for the new themed build or has that not yet been ported for Kaiser?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Just copy over the system file and new conf file I'll upload the system in lil bit. Looks like the zimage that comes with the theme is a lil older...i kept the one in this build and it runs fine. I did however just copy over he provided and it didnt work for me.kept giving me mddi errors.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tommywoods:
one thing really bothers me is the phone would wake up once i touch the physical keys, i found that Hero is the only rom using the power key to wake it up, Donut and Eclair builds are not, if the screen turns on without my awareness, it really drains the battery... any change in any files can improve that issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
open your default.txt in notepad...make sure sleep.mode=1 in the command line at the bottom of the text file. Vogue user set theirs to 0, we set ours to 1 for best powersavings. Sometimes copying new basefiles can get these configs tweaked so always check the default.txt if anything has changed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tommywoods:
Thank you so much, ajclai08! That's the thing I've been looking for!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
the link doesn't work so i took the one from the first page: [NEW] TATTOO USER.CONFIG[96MB COMPCACHE]

it seems it's even slower than before
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mJoker:
Anyone know the best way to have this boot directly? This is much better than my WM 6.5 but it's a tad tedious to have to load haret.exe every time I reboot.

Also can I boot from the phone itself so the phone is actually running android and not running it through windows mobile?

Sorry if this has been answered, but I looked through the thread and didn't see anything. (Using the Tilt if it makes a difference)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Copy a shortcut of haret in windows/startup on ur phone. Then rename default.txt to startup.txt. And it will boot linux once u boot winmo automatically. Or you can copy the haret shortcut to start menu folder in windows then bind it too a key for a quick android boot. Or just hitting haret.exe with the startup.txt with launch it without goin in the app. Flashable android for kaiser is already possible..I'd wait just a lil longer before it matures..

yeah that 1st link had some configs backwards, and the second one had .txt extension at the end, so if you copied that over it didnt do anything. So just delete the extension or download it again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Blinkydamo:
Hi all,

Got a couple of questions if someone could help please.

I've installed using 4 partitions and it's running better then i expected but i am unable to calibrate the screen, got back screen asking to hold target on first boot, but no target and crashes the calibration screen when run afterwards, any ideas?

I am unable to import my sim contacts, i know they are there but android phone doesn't see any on the sim?

Cheers in advance,

Blinky
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
:confused: I don't get what you mean by this

ofcourse I saved it as a .conf not a .conf.txt so it is in effect

but the system seems even more unresponsive than with the previous conf

---

maybe it's better to use http://pastebin.com/ for the config files...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
I haven't been paying as much attention to the progress of Android on the Kaiser as I used to lately, so I have a question.

This is the first build I've tried where my camera actually works, but.... Why is it all green!?

It's perfectly OK in Windows Mobile... But in Android, it's all... green.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dad-gum:
Remapping Hardware Buttons on Kaiser/Tilt?

Thanks much! This latest version is running quite nicely on my Tilt.

I've been doing some searching, and I have not been able to find any utilities for remapping hardware buttons in Android (to make up for inabilites to type [Esc], for example), or to rearrange the front-facing buttons, which seem vaguely awkward, though I'm getting used to it, I suppose.

Is there such an add-on to remap buttons and keys?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dad-gum:
Partitioned SD card

Also, is there a performance benefit to partitioning one's SD card to install in ext2 partitions and to have a swap partition?

Is it better to use my swap partition for Linux swap or for backing cache swap?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
well my experiences with just a 64mb backingswap w/ CC werent as good as just having 96mb of compcache and 32 mb of memory dedicated. with the conf file above its never had to reload rosie, though the speed isnt super fast nor so slow its unusable, might be faster with a nand boot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] perkabalo:
Basefiles hiding

Hey thanks for providing all the links and creating the thread!

As the basefiles link is no longer in the mood for ones and zeros i'm wondering if I can use the full package link instead? If not, a new mirror would be sweet.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jamezelle:
buckle up guys! lol :cool:

replace your conf folder with this one here
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Your the man jamezelle!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Bump. Anyone?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ycode90:
Make this NAND flashable preashe.