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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alioop:
Impressive App, with even more impressive support from developer!

Thanks for the tip. But I couldn't get RemoteSpy to launch properly. It gives me a "Class Not Registered" error. Anyway I will settle for how I have managed to configure BattClock so far. It is already useful enough without that last tweak I had in mind. :)

To be honest, I have had my HD2 for exactly 5 weeks now, and I have Hard-Reset it about a dozen times already.. not exaggerating. It's not my first windows mobile, but this is the first windows phone that I have added more than what came with it. And after reading and reading through forums for hours every day, I am exhausted! :( I want to stop tweaking and start using my phone now :)

Thanks for all your replies. I will keep an eye on this thread in case I can learn how to use your app better from other people's questions :D Oh and of course I'll be even happier with your new version that will monitor more parameters like Wifi and Data statistics! And I want to say again, I am VERY impressed by how light your app is on resources! Great work!

PS. May I suggest, that as you focus most of your efforts to add more and more incredible functionality into such a tiny App, you also put a little effort into redesigning the Config utility to make it more intuitive and straight forward. This will greatly benefit the increasing number of new users that will want to use your app. Fortunately I was patient enough to play around with it and figure everything out. But it took quite a bit of trial and error, and not everyone has my patience :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alioop:
My workaround..

Hi Tokl. Finally a third opinion :) Thanks for your input.

I actually forgot about the CPU load issue until you brought it up again.. hehe. Cause I worked out a compromise with BattClock :p

Yes, I had already tracked down LeoCpuSpeed, and even when I force my phone to stay at 998Mhz, BattClock still shows an unusual high activity even on idle. It definitely appears to be receiving incorrect information about the real CPU load. So even though it is not accurate (on my phone at least), it can still reveal that there is some real CPU activity when it is showing a load of over 30%. So what I did in the end is move the first 25% of the CPU Stripe out of the screen.

(X = -12 , W = 50) (Yes, I like my stripes very small ;) ) So now, I will see the strip only when activity is over 25% according to BattClock :) . I find this a satisfactory solution until hopefully ZuinigeRijder makes the CPU Load reading more accurate in the next update..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tokl:
LOL i did a little different with the same result:

I set the low color to black (on black background) and medium to 35%, so everything below 35% is not shown *GRIN*

Jeah welcome in the world of Windows Mobile: everything is Patchwork :D

But i like it !!! (because everything is possible)

Greetz Tokl
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] slavissa:
Telephone signal is always in maximum

Hello

I installed BattClock on Toshiba Tsunagi, and telephone signal line is always on maximum. Any suggestions how I can fix it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
I also use both, BattClock and TouchLockPro together.

Actually I use the BattClock program to show information over the Windows Logo/Start button and let TouchLockPro show time and battery % on the usal place.

What error message do you get when you try to select the background color?

Are you sure you did not select DetectBackGround in the BattConfig Other screen?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tokl:
Wrong CPU values seems to be the right!

It gets even more curious:

It seems that BattClock shows always the correct CPU Load!!! :confused::eek:

Today im flashed an new custom rom (Goatrip 5.5 Ger, brand new - relased today).

First thing i installed after flashing: of course "BattClock". :)

Then the Nightmare begins:

CPU load in BattClock is Jumping from 60-100% and even after 10 Minutes no change...

I look into the Windows Taskmanager: Manila around 4% and some other Processes 1% -> all together less then 10%.

I installed Homescreen++ and look into it: CPU Load around 5-10%...

I tried XTask... and other Taskmanagers: same result.

OK i thought ... same Problem with BattClock in this Rom... :mad:

I lied my HD2 on the table and do some other thing.

After 15 mins or so i realized the screen has not switched off (my fault i checked accidentally not to switch off in battery mode :rolleyes: ).

But wait, why is my device a bit warm in the CPU area? :confused:

Checked the battery drain and: 300-400mA load!!! Normal is around 100-150mA !!! CPU load is still at 70-100% in BattClock, but other Taskmanagers show nearby nothing ...

So WTF ??? :eek:

After a while of testing what drains my battery i finally get it:

when i pull my storage card out in the same second the CPU load goes down nearby to zero... and oh wonder battery drain is now around 150mA.

It seems that Sense or another ****ty windows service is accessing and collecting data of the SD card (and my 16Gb is really full, alot small different files from work)...

After one hour im realise the ApplicationData Folder is again growed up to 50Mb and CPU load is normally at 10% ... until next time the Card is checked :mad:

For me im believing in BattClocks CPU load because no other Taskmanager has shown me this curious fault... ;)

Thanks again ZuinigeRijder ! :):):)

Greetz Tokl
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
Ok, you should run RemoteSpy on your computer (not on your phone) and your phone should be connected to ActiveSync. Was that the problem?

Actually I am redesigning all the Config screens to be more user/finger friendly for the upcoming version. I am quite far with it (all functional features are in), but I need to do a lot of testing ;)

Till now I only did test on the emulator, will try to run it now on my diamond, to see what the real performance is.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
BattClock is using a registry key to measure the phone signal:

HKLM\System\State\Phone\Signal Strength Raw

Apparently that registry key is not filled on your phone :confused:

You can check with a registry key editor on your phone if there is a value there.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
Can you determine which application is collection/writing data?

Unfortunately that is not possible with BattClock ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pupakota:
eheheh, you know, some of you, sense/manila/other BS users realized how MUCH battery you are losing after using BC showing real drain.

Funny is, that some modifications for feeble BULL**** of HTC are able to lower batt drain pernamently, but nobody here said how-to so far.

I cannot help, just observation. I never ever use HTC BS, so i can stay 7 days without charging FOUR Y OLD device.

Good luck, ZuinigeRijder, i am still wating for item-launch option.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tokl:
until now im not getting the real name... but my sense :p is (HTC) Sense :D

Somewhere i see how to disable HTC Sense (i think it is an reg key),

i will search for it an keep you updated since i know more.

Last but not least:

Finally i managed to take some screenshots.

Greetz Tokl

P.S.: Let me know if you need help by Beta testing...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
It will be in the upcoming version:

# Added option to execute a command when the BattClock is pressed ("BattClockPressCommand")
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jonto:
Hi GLO>> What are you using to get the " CPU Speed " to show? Is it a Registry entry ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] slavissa:
Hallo

Thanks for fast response

I checked Registry and there are value 100%, Your application works correctly. maybe is problem in my phone. Thanks for great application. I wish translate it in Serbian, can You send me file for translation.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pupakota:
Absolutely fabulous. Respect.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
That would be awesome.

This is the direct link to the excel file.

Thereafter post the translations in the excel spreadsheet as zipped attachment in this support group

I will then update this in the next version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
Example screenshot of upcoming version

I am testing the upcoming BattClock version.

I have an example screenshot showing some of the possibilities.

6 stripes:

1 left top to middle: battery % (because my battery was full, it is flashing, so you do not see it on this screenshot)

2 right top to middle: signal strength

3 left bottom to middle: Uptime in minutes

4 right bottom to middle: Free Memory %

5 left bottom to left top: standby minutes

6 right bottom to right top: display on minutes

5 columns, 2 rows

First Row, from left to right:

1. Time

2. Week number and Day of week

3. Battery temperature

4. Battery MilliWatt

5. CPU %

Second Row, from left to right:

6. Date

7. Wifi Kbs

8. Wifi KB Total

9. Mobile Kbs

10. Mobile KB Total
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pupakota:
Hooooly damn, wow, multiple lines/rows!

btw, any chance for showing cpu mhz's?

I am using xscale cpu device so temperature and battdrain is not working(typical problem with that kind of software), although i do not use these meters, so it is not problem, but (working)cpu speed meter would be nice, as i frequently under/overclock regarding to the situation. Checking freq is problematic, as clocker has tray icon(obviously invisible while something is launched). "BattClockPressCommand" to launch that oc'er's menu from such cpu speed function would be complete solution.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
You can configure indeed the number of columns and rows, e.g. 3 rows x 4 columns. Maximum number of items to show is 12, should be enough ;)

I would love to show cpu mhz's, but I do not know how. I asked GLO how he showed it in one of his screenshots, no answer yet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GLO:
Hi ZuinigeRijder,

Sorry for my absence.

Unfortunately I acheived the mhz by simply using 0mhz as the CPU separator.

So whilst it shows usually 92% mine would display 920mhz.

Sorry if i got some peoples hopes up.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tokl:
New Version seems to be alot greater!

WOW, can´t wait for the new version!!!!

Especially the Data counter funktion will be the hottest funktion!

Is it possible to reset the counter Daily/Monthly (would be nice to reset counter when you have an limited data plan)

And another question:

Is the Position of each Row/Column separatly given, or are they stick together?

I ask because it will be nice to have 2 or more rows placed separatly on the screen, for example one row horizontally in the left up corner and another vertically in front of the clock.

Will this be possible?

Keep up the great work ZuinigeRijder !!!

Thanks for your support.

Greetz Tokl
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tokl:
Yes, the fault on my phone was/is Manila/Sense from HTC!!!

It seems that something does not like the files on my storagecard.

Dont know what file, i deleted all MP3´s, because others having Probs with special mp3s files. Even formatting and then copy all the data back dosent help...

When i disable Sense (HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\HTC Sence\Enabled -> set to 0) and do a softreset or kill manila.exe i have not seem high CPU usage again, and my problems are gone...

And:

Sense is an Battery eater!:

No SD card insert -> lowest Background LED -> Phone and all wireless off (flightmode) -> no Programs opened:

Battery drain with Sense in Homescreen: 88mA

Battery drain without Sense in Homescreen: 75mA

13mA difference for doing nothing than exist (no animation etc.)

OK this is not so much but in idle more than 10%.

Shure i have waited and viewed a longer time to this values, so this is an average.

But i like the handy functions from sense, so i must find a way that sense do not touch my storagecard...

Sorry for off topic :rolleyes:

Greets Tokl

[EDIT:]

If anyone has the same Problems like me, (High CPU usage caused by Sense) try following:

Prevent HTC Album collecting infos: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3076289&postcount=1

Prevent Sense Player collecting infos: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5916504&postcount=6

For me this is finally working!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
I was planning to make it possible to fill in new data values in BattConfig. I do not have designed the Setting Screen for that. I am still thinking if I want a general screen for it, or a dedicated screen.

Currently the Column/Rows stick together. There is a story about it.

I have improved the performance. With those 10 displayed items and 6 stripes, it consumes 0.00% CPU for just getting the data (no longer in the UI thread). But when screen updates are done, I see this consumes more CPU as before, because the area I update is bigger :cool: Of course, I do only updates when one of the values changes. But then I still have to Paint the whole area :eek:

So when a screen update takes place, it can have a small spike of 1% CPU. One way to circumvent that, is indeed to split the rows and columns into separate cells. So only the changed cells need to be repainted. That would also serve your request, 2 separate areas. But of course it is less easy to configure all those (max 12) separate cells. So I have to think if I need to redesign this and want to offer this. For now I changed the measuring of CPU% to do only once per 5 seconds, so the spike is only once per 5 seconds when you enable this to display. If you configure less items, you do not have this spike. Anyway a spike of 1% CPU is still not much. But I am always try to get the best performance ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pupakota:
Tell me sth.

Is this possible to make data update ONLY in ON mode?

You know what i mean - visual output and metering is rather logical when device is ON, but it is useless when device is standby etc.

So - updating data occurs ONLY when machine is turned ON. Could it be good idea?

Or it is working that way already?

I think that everyone would agree on small delay for meters update after turning machine on and ZERO activity when hibernated/standby/whatever.

just curious.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tokl:
Thats true, even now it´s not easy to have an overview of all settings.

and im still get used to the menu.

When there are 12 points more to configure it should be a bit easy to understand.

especially new users might have their problems to get used to the configuration screen(s).

when i remember the first time i configured BattClock it was a try and error session to find out what thing does what.

I think the configuration screen is an part who many users avoid to use BattClock... They try, don´t get it and try another program (maybe?).

Sorry i dont want to say something sad/wrong about BattClock this is an great piece of software!!

But in my opinion the configuration screen should be a bit more comprehensive.

Im wondering every day how you managed it to get BattClock so lightweight and using so less resources, thats really great and one great part of BattClock!

Greetz Tokl
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
This is already the case. Only the updates will be done in ON mode. That is by design, only when the display is on, the repaint is taking place. And when the phone is in a deep sleep, even the data gathering does no longer take place. Only the Phone Radio is than taking Battery away ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
I think the configuration of the upcoming version has improved. But of course the users have to tell it. So still have a bit patience, although the testing is advancing pretty well......
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pupakota:
All right!

btw for some reason, configurator was not stable in last version, it CTD'ed sometimes for no clear reason...

upd: you know, you may be one of last persons that are making REAL, native, useful soft for windows mobile, btw..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tokl:
hmm... mine never ended unexpected, and i played alot around with the config.

what kind of device do you use, you sayd 4jr old? maybe is it wm5? i had alot undefined probs with wm5... since wm6 everyting is much more stable!

Sad that wm6.5.x is the last usefull wm.

next wp7 is only an iphone clone...

greetz Tokl
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
BattClock version 1.4

Updated version BattClock 1.4.

- Fixes the problem that the battery charge indicator was not changed till the next minute.

- Fixed the problem that the not know battery paercentage (-1%) was not changed till the next minute

Note that BattClock normally only polls the battery percentage once per 3 minutes, to avoid battery drainage, most other solutions poll much more often. Only when needed, it polls. For some people/phones the battery returns unknown immediately after standby. Now it retries till it is known. Till that time -1 is shown.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sxtheone:
great! v1.4 is now working perfectly.

thanks a lot, ZuinigeRijder.:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Odjavel:
Yes, thanks for your quickness, perhaps you could have a rest now ! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rjmjr69:
Yes very nice app a GUI to adjust settings instead of having to registry edit would be nice.

Also I love this app its great. Can you get rid of the 0zero with the 12 hour time?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tcchuin:
hi,do you mind adding latest changelog in first post every release?so ppl don't have to look for it :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] letsgoflyers81:
You can remove the leading zero from 12 hour time. Just go into the registry and change UseLeadingZero to 0.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
I will add that on the wish list. But 3 lines will be crowdy.

Anyway, adding free program memory could be an option too for 2 lines.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
The color possibilities is already on the wish list.

In touchlockpro I already experimented with it and have a test version having this already. So I would see if I can merge that code to BattClock. This would solve the problem too, that people not having a solid color, could make an icon with their taskbar look and feel, use this icon as background and draw the info on top of it. So I add it on the wish list.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
I was lazy, because the info is also available here:

BattClock Changelog

Otherwise I have to update the info at 2 places :cool:

But you are right, adding the changelog in the first post is more user friendly.;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
The Config GUI is on the wish list. Till then you can install TouchLockPro and configure the BattClock with the TouchLockAction BattCLock Config screen and deinstall TouchLockPro thereafter.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
Oops, I did not know BattClock was so popular. I get a message of photobucket that I used already 7 GB of the 10 GB download limit, after 1/3 of a month :mad:

So I modified www.zuinigerijder.com to show sometimes thumbs instead of the full image. When you click on some of the thumbs you can still see the full image.

All sort of sites are also referencing the same BattClock photo. I uploaded a version which only shows the BattClock part. At least that saves me some bandwidth. I saw since 3 days almost 8000 hits per day on www.zuinigerijder.com. Photobucket stat showed almost 60.000 times the BattClockUnlocked.jpg was viewed (external site references). Replaced that picture with the smaller battclock only part. Hope that I survice this month ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
I am wondering which windows name is then used for the Taskbar. Because I try to subclass the HHTaskBar. Visual Studio has a program called "Remote Spy" to look up Window names, I do not know if this is available somewhere as separate download or can be used without Visual Studio install.

You should be connected to ActiveSync and run the tool ccspy.exe on your Windows PC.

Maybe it works, see attachment.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bobby0724:
I try to install this app on a Samsung SGH-i637 with WM 6.5 and i get this error

unable to find HHTaskBar
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] webercoder:
Installed 1.4 in HTC diamond P3700, and enabled 12 hour format. Everything works perfect.

Thanks very much for your great work.

BTW, my Diamond has WM 6.1 (21054) with Sense 2.5 (Cookied ROM SUN Y 1.2).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sxtheone:
a minor issue with v1.4:

battery drain, not very much, but noticeable.

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update: battery drain caused by other program, not by BattClock. My mistake, sorry, and thanks again for this wonderful app. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] marty81:
I'm using BattClock on my Touch Diamond 2 on WM6.5 and it's working fine! :)

But is there any possibility to change the background colour when I lock my phone? I use the WM6.5 lock screen with a semi transparent task bar. Now I have a black square on it. :(

So when I lock my phone background could changed to transparent.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Szior:
Transparent Background for BattClock

See post #66 in this forum:

Originally Posted by ZuinigeRijder:

"Making the background transparent is not possible, I tried that a long time ago."
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jokes On You:
I wonder would it be possible to use a picture as the background?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sxtheone:
as you can see from the pic attached, there's still enough room for a third line (in the middle), and the font (size=13) is pretty clear and readable. :cool:

guess what, the battery status and time is something I can't afford to lose, yeah, thanks to your great app, :D as for free program memory, well, it's kind of

supplementary, and I have to let it go if I can't keep the batt status and time together in the same screen. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rjmjr69:
Congratulations on such a great hit. Why dont you host it a better site with no limit? Can you not do so here?

Did you consider a better way of editing settings other than registry
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pupakota:
...asus p525 with last 6.1 available now(last os i wanted to see and use), but i had configrr crash in 6.5's too. using netcf 3.7 on both.

btw, i am cook, i do not remember exact builds i had crash with, it is just not important, just observation, maybe netcf was f'ed up, i am not sure. just nevermind. good, that program itself never crashed for me so far.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ephestione:
I'd prefer having 13mA overhead and use the co0kiemonster mod, couldn't do without it probably; on the other hand, I rarely use all the other tabs.

The thing that's probably eating your SD card is the mp3 player, checking for new songs in there.

Maybe the album viewer as well, but I don't think so, given that when I take new pictures, they are not immediately loaded in the album when I opened it, but there's a discrete lag before they are shown, thus indicating that the album viewer searches for new images only when its tab is opened
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tokl:
@ephestione:

Thanks for your tip, you gave me the right way (I edited my original Post so if anyone have the same Probs they can see the solution).

Greetz Tokl
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ZuinigeRijder:
I asked my dutch colleague NetRipper how I could add the current CPU speed in BattClock, because he made LeoCpuSpeed.

He responded I could call a method in LeoClockLib.dll to get the current CPU speed :eek: So it seems it becomes possible for BattClock to show this information :rolleyes:

I have asked him it is does harm to call this method on non-HD2 phones. Because otherwise I need protection for it.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tokl:
Hi,

i asked the same question yesterday in the official LeoCpuSpeed Forum http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=682663,

but i did not get an answer until now.

Thanks ZuinigeRijder!

Greetz Tokl