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[Nexus One General] hurrycaine3000:
it's been confirmed that this phone has the hardware to run on the frequencies needed, but apperantly it doesn't have the amplifier needed to boost those signals. atleast that's what I gathered from reading the really smart peoples responses. I hope they're wrong, but I have a feeling they are not. oh well ordered mine already anyway and hoping for the best. I actually turned off 3g on my touch pro, and have been kind of amazed at how little it has bothered me. although I have a lot of access to wifi, still it hasn't been an issue yet, and my batteries been pretty thankfull. only time will tell I guess. either way I'll play with it and see, and if at&t comes out with their own version I'll sell this one to my brother who's stuck on tmob. anyway. I would just switch to tmobile but they have no 3g in my area for like 40 miles, and at&t's edge network even looks like it covers more area.
[Nexus One General] McHale:
When I didn't have 3G in my area, I couldn't wait to get it. When I finally got 3G, I eventually throttled my Touch Pro to EDGE only and rarely turn it back on. Battery life is part of it, but call quality was the big deal for me. I find my call quality MUCH better when 3G is forced off. I still want the option though.

There's going to be an opportunity to buy an AT&T 3G capable phone with good specs eventually - Telus, Rogers, AT&T, direct from the manufacturer, etc. I can wait. I find it kind of funny (not hah hah funny) that AT&T's first offerings for Android are rather crappy (the Dell BLOWS). It's almost like they are grudgingly releasing Android because they are getting so much flack but they refuse to release a good one in hopes it will deter people from it. I'll laugh if Acer takes a queue from Google and offers the Acer A1 directly here in the states. They already have FCC clearance for 850/1900.

I don't think AT&T realizes that many of us wouldn't buy an iPhone even if it were the only phone they carried. Like I said, I own a brand new one, I refuse to use it.

-Mc
[Nexus One General] :
I went as far as to go get a non contract plan from T-Mobile to give them a chance. Despite their 7.2Mbit upgrade they are claiming their Salt Lake City coverage is utter crap. I can't get coverage sitting in front of a 6' by 20' window in my living room.

In in low signal conditions, the phone indeed does flop back and forth between Edge and 3G, even worse then cuts out completely.

As for performance where T-Mobile can get a signal here, I tested in the store and can still only get about 700kbit down, and 380 up. They have not enabled HSDPU here, as in lots of T-Mobile areas.

AT&T on the other hand, using a G1 from Rogers, I regularly get over 2200kbit down and 800kbit up, and Cyanogen updates are often downloading at over 300KB/sec. With the N1 on AT&T , it's an almost tolerable 180kbit - 200kbit down on EDGE. I use wifi a lot so it's not too bad, but maps loading on edge is horrendous so using navigation on the go is not that usable.

I'm kind of annoyed. I would love to be free of the clutches of AT&T, but at least in Salt Lake City, their coverage is superior to T-Mobile in every way. I never drop a call, unless I'm calling a T-Mobile or Cricket customer lol.

And it's bad everywhere I go. I got lots of friends with T-Mobile and hero's and G1's and they are always having less coverage than I would be satisfied with.

Despite that, I hear in some cities they do kick ass, just wish they did here.

Someone mentioned that AT&T is begrudging releasing A&T handhelds. It's obvious there is some back door shinnanagings going on, because not only is AT&T sucking Apples teet, but Google is kissing T-Mobile's ass by not releasing an AT&T 3G nexus one.

Despite all this, I don't think Google has much choice to get Android in the market. The american mobile carriers are terrified of being a dumb pipe. I'm sure the only reason T-Mobile let them on was to compete with the others. Verizon has the Droid because they can't have iPhone. AT&T is going to release (****ty) Android phones because now everyone else has.

No one is doing us any favors here and it sucks.

-James
[Nexus One General] hurrycaine3000:
all these politics. I just want a truly unlocked version of this phone. I would pay twice as much for a phone that I could go to any carrier, be it t mobile, at&t, verizon, sprint, or whoever. I'm done with contracts, I just want to be able to use who keeps me happy, as long as they keep me happy. You hear me google. make that phone, and they're people who will buy it.
[Nexus One General] McHale:
That would truly change the game. Based on where I live and the plan I have, there is zero chance I would change carriers. But AT&T doesn't know that and as a result, I have a VERY awesome plan. Imagine if more people were out of contract and could truly choose any carrier they wanted whenever they wanted...

-Mc
[Nexus One General] britoso:
works fine on ATT EDGE ("data unlimited plan", $10)

Can listen to Pandora, connect to all IM servers, and download apps at the same time.

Cant beat adding a line on ATT for $10, and adding Edge for $10..total $20 /month.
[Nexus One General] :
Some perspective. I have this plan too.

Pings are over 700ms. VoIP doesn't work. Web pages load slower than my Rogers G1 because there is no 3G. Maps and Navigation are REALLY slow to load. Voice search over EDGE is slow. . Voice calls get routed to voice mail when downloading.

Pretty much cramps the device

My Rogers G1 was regularly pulling 2Mbit off AT&T and with EDGE the Nexus One maybe can hit 190/kbit (.2 Mbit?).

So while the device is snappy, any time I'm not on WIFI, it's capabilities are someone crapped.

That being said, works great on wifi and if an AT&T 3G compatible version comes available, I'm getting one. T-Mobile's 3G is a joke and so is their coverage, believe me I tried.

Lets not forget that the 3G isn't even working on T-Mobile for many people.

Sorry for *****ing, wanted to switch to T-Mobile and their maps lie about their coverage.

-James
[Nexus One General] britoso:
The $10 plan is for EDGE only. Dont think you could connect to 3G even if the phone supported it.

Pings are over 700ms. >> Do you play online games that require a low ping? This does not seem to affect me much.

VoIP doesn't work. >> SIPDroid connects fine on my phone, however incoming calls get cut off after one ring. I read that it may be because Google Voice is installed too.

Web pages/maps I dont even try to use this on EDGE, its not meant to.

Navigation >> Get an alternate GPS solution like ANDNav2 or Copilot with maps on the SD card. I just check flight statuses, train timings, gmail, gvoice etc. and it works great for that.

Voice Search >> Agreed, it works for small sentences but fails otherwise.

Voice calls get routed to voice mail when downloading. >> Not sure, Havent experienced this yet. I thought this was a problem for CDMA networks only. Thats what ATT bashes Verizon about in their Ads.
[Nexus One General] hotleadsingerguy:
I've been with Cingular/AT&T since it was formed, and I've had all 3 iterations of the iPhone (as well as about 4 other smartphones, as well) with a wide range of phones using 3G. I live in Cleveland, where the coverage is pretty strong (outside of going about 20 min in any direction away from the city...).

I ordered the Nexus One the second they showed the link at the unveiling, and I received it the very next day at around 10am. Truth be told, I couldn't care less about lack of 3G. Granted, the internet's slower, but unless you're downloading something fairly large it really makes no difference. The apps are all pretty small (with very few exceptions such as Soundboards) and the browser is actually faster than the iPhone 3GS.

I still have my iPhone 3GS and having them both next to each other loading up about 10 websites at the same time (from the same wifi which is sitting less than 5 feet away) only Endgadget loaded slower on the Nexus. Every other site (CONSISTENTLY) loaded faster on the Nexus, sometimes to a pretty wide degree (edealinfo.net loaded about 20% faster on the Nexus).

Get the Nexus, download the Dolphin web-browser (so you can get multitouch in the browser) and enjoy easily one of the top phones on the market. I plan on selling my iPhone (after being an Apple advocate for a few years now) in the near future. That's quite a statement for those who know me in RL.
[Nexus One General] hotleadsingerguy:
I should comment on this...

Ping/latency is pretty much irrelevant. You're not going to be playing online games and even if you are it really makes no difference.

VOIP I haven't tested so can't comment here.

Web pages/Maps: You're completely wrong here. I've loaded many web sites and used Maps many times already this past week and it's worked just fine. It loads fast enough to be useful (loads maybe half as quickly as 3G in most cases, but that amount of time difference is inconsequential in almost all cases).

Navigation: Works great. I've used the Google Navigation a few times (just to play with it, I have an actual GPS in the car) and it worked flawlessly. You don't even realize it's loading anything because once it starts (takes 5-10 seconds to get it all prepared) it loads perfectly in the background without you even noticing.

Voice Search: Once again works well as long as you're not talking very quickly or in a loud environment. I've had no trouble searching for every single thing I've used it for (including Westfield shopping centers, specific names, etc...).

Voice calls getting routed to voicemail while downloading...plainly not true. GSM networks don't have this problem. The voice and data bands are completely separated and therefore one does not interfere with the other. I've been downloading apps while on the phone and nothing happened, and I've also gotten calls while downloading/loading.

I'm one of the biggest advocates for 3G speeds...but on this phone it really isn't that noticeable. I wouldn't want to download or browse all day on EDGE, but it works fine for anything I've used it for.
[Nexus One General] bugsy:
I'm coming from an iphone 3GS in an area with great coverage and too be honest I don't notice a significant difference. Browsing is definitely slower and you lose simultaneous voice and data, but from a day to day usage perspective it has been top notch so far. The maps have been fine for me and the voice to text has been great. As always...your mileage may vary.
[Nexus One General] :
The $10 plan works just fine for my imported Rogers G1's on AT&T 3G. Often over 2 megabits download and 800/kbit up.

-James
[Nexus One General] rotohammer:
Got mine yesterday

The phone is awesome, I already have a Touch HD from Australia that does 3G if I really needed it.

Theres 2 advantages using the Nexus One on AT&T :

1) no 3G/Edge switching problem :)

2) better battery life.

Considering that my Touch HD cost me $900, the Nexus One is a far better deal even without 3G.
[Nexus One General] dsarch21:
well, i started this thread and i guess i'll chime in now that I have my nexus in hand for a little while....

Picked up from fedex, inserted ATT Sim, downloaded speedtest....

200 kb/sec (edge) I immediately felt like i was missing out on something.

drove to tmob, made the sales rep take his personal sim out of his G1 so i could 'test' tmobs network, fired up speedtest........900 kb/sec. (3G in Southern New Jersey isn't great) Rep said closer to Philly, he gets 2mb/sec...which i believe, but haven't tested.

The rep worked on commission, so I said if i sign up right now, will you waive the $35 activation fee, done, now I am all tmob'd up and honestly, voice quality is great so far, 3G speed are close to 1mb/sec consistently and I have the best phone around....also, I got the even more plus plan, so no contract and i am about $18/mo cheaper than i was with ATT.

overall, if ATT had a N1 type phone, i would have probably stayed, but now that I am with Tmob, i have ZERO complaints, maybe i can even get my wife to dump her iphone so we can get a family plan and save even more $$.....
[Nexus One General] rotohammer:
Now you're missing out on the great AT&T battery life :)
[Nexus One General] britoso:
I meant for data intensive sites. Seriously doubt maps loads fast for you as it relies on image tiles (it uses caching, so maybe that threw you).

I should try this, maybe it caches all the waypoints beforehand.

Try new (it caches previous speech), long sentences (over 15 seconds)...over EDGE. Pretty sure you will get a server error message after it fails to upload all that voice data.

My speedtest result in Fort Worth, Texas (will be much slower than a metropolitan city) is:

Download: 72 Kb/sec (9 KB/sec)

Upload: (download test is taking 15 mins+ to complete...)
[Nexus One General] sennister:
Yeah it sucks that we have to have only one option for a plan but if you look at this link you will see that it is still less expensive to own than an iPhone or Droid. The only one cheaper is the PalmPre.

Link
[Nexus One General] t-mizzle:
It's not the plan that I have a problem with. It's changing the rules around the full discount that will hurt the sales. That's why they don't want this phone in tmo stores.

That way, they make the subsidy terms more strict and cut off all corporate discounts, all employee discounts and the loyalty plan discounts as well. Premeditated strategy to push profit margins. But they miscalculated on the number of phones they will actually sell. Knowing the phone is not out in Europe, I feel inclined to buy a and sell on ebay.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] tsalta:
Hello guys from a long time im looking for some nice looking CARBON theme for Windows Mobile for example for Manila 2.1 Sense or 2.5 WVGA resolution and its shame till today nobody make one beauty carbon theme.. so i know how to make theme but im not good with a Photoshop this is the reason why i post this!!!

Befor few days i found in another Forum SUPERB Carbon theme for iPhone and now will show you what i mean.. you can chek iBOX Carbon for iPhone here:

http://modmyi.com/forums/new-skins-themes-launches/683402-ibox-carbon.html

Why exactly CARBON THEME? Because the Carbon look stilysh, clear and all is visable.

In the link above you can download the iBOX Theme there have alot of PNG files and you can use some for patterns and etc.

For example in Windows Mobile.. and our TF3D we have ability to Costumize alot... and i wonder why Nobody create a theme like this.. i mean to make a PNG images with PhotoShop if you know how to work with its not so hard.

What the Theme can include...?

The Theme will be cool if all components are the Same Style.. what i mean its the same Carbon Patterns the same Glossy Shadows etc..

We can have a Carbon Slider, Carbon Around the Clock, Carbon Top and Bottom Bars, and many other things everyone is up to experiment.

See some pictures from iBOX to see how beautyfull look like Carbon with Metal Finish or some Neon Colours:

I Hope that many peoples here will want a Carbon Theme for Windows Mobile

So if you are good with PhotoShop try to make something beautyfull.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ASK768:
i kinda like it too. but all it would really take is a background on all tabs (there is a leo one like that) and new slider icons. id have a go but have too many exams atm...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Desibouy:
How do you make a theme for htc touch hd? i could try to help, im good with photoshop, but i dont know any programming etc.

Thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] fattiboy:
help needed with this theme

hi

first,.,.,.

is this theme is for tytn2

or

iphone

and

if it is for tytn2

how can i apply this on it,.,....

i try alot

but failed

me using

HTC tytn 2

wm 6.5

(TPC V11 MEGA Edition loaded with manilla, moto home, and TPCHome)

radio rom 1.70.19.09
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] tsalta:
THIS THEME is for iPHONE ONLY and i post is just like an example!!! you cant use it in Windows Mobile for now
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] edangel:
This is for iphone screenshots too...not compatible with your tytn2

this one is a request who can make a theme like this.....:cool:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ASK768:
on this forum you can find hdwall.

using this you can create a background for all tabs in manilla and change the slider icons.

you can then make application icons which i think the user would have to configure
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jimbo59153:
I am running Mighty Rom on my Touch pro 2. My texting tab just disappeared for no reason at all. I cant get text, send them, or even read my existing ones any more. I tried to reflash the Rom and activesync wont connect and my start menu will not open for me to fix it. Any help would be nice. Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ai6908:
Maybe ask in the ROM thread and you might get help?!:)
[Nexus One General] Alleviate:
Hey guys, as you all know the Nexus One was released today so I'm totally getting it!

I just have one question though.. I currently have the G1 with unlimited texts and web, on a family plan. When I get my Nexus One (for full price, unsubsidized) do I just switch my G1 Sim Card into my Nexus One and I will get my plan? (ie. my unlimited texts, 500 minutes, and unlimited web access)
[Nexus One General] Edible Justice:
yeah you should. the sim card is what has the subscription, not the phone. pop that sim into any phone and you keep your plan.
[Nexus One General] Alleviate:
Alright dude, thanks. I'm definitely getting the phone now. But what about warranty? Is it included when you buy the phone from Google or what?
[Nexus One General] student.driver:
Are you talking about the extended warranty/service plan you pay monthly for via T-Mobile? I talked to T-Mobile yesterday, and the rep (Kayla) had to ask internally if their insurance will cover the N1, and it doesn't. So I just canceled the insurance plan on both of the main phones and will continue without it.
[Nexus One General] Alleviate:
Yea I was talking about the one provided from T-Mobile through that one insurance company. I used it for my G1 and it was 6$ monthly. But now I'm hearing that doesn't work with the N1. So I'd have to cancel that. But where can I get insurance for my N1?
[Nexus One General] Mi|enko:
T-Mobile doesn't warrant the phone, so you should probably stop paying the insurance. Google warrants the phone for 1 year. Don't forget, it's voided by rooting.

http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-terms_of_sale.html
[Nexus One General] Alleviate:
Alright, so I just call them up and ask to cancel the insurance? Oh nice. I'll probably only have the phone for one year.. that's how long I had my G1 for and look what came out just one year after :P
[Nexus One General] Bumble-Bee:
Hi i orderd the Nexus One today (im in the UK) it looks awsome. Just a quick question to who else has brought the phone ? and where you all are :-D. Im upgrading from my G1 and iPhones :P
[Nexus One General] joeavery2:
I did

i bought one... love my G1 but until cm4.2.12.2 it was killing me, So after a little over a year I'm movin up. I hope to root it and get the same enjoyment out of it as I am with the G1 on CM builds!
[Nexus One General] mwitha:
I got one! I'm from UK! Bit of a bummer that we might have to pay VAT etc. Any ideas on how long it will take to arrive?

I'm looking to sell my white unlocked Hero if anyone's interested!!
[Nexus One General] melterx12:
i bought one! cant wait!!!
[Nexus One General] jeux_1:
same here in the UK, selling my 3gs and bought it .

I too hope Mr Custom will snooze on that one, not much hope ;-)

First Android Phone BTW
[Nexus One General] Bumble-Bee:
No idea about the shipping Id like to know too lol id say 2-3 days more than the USA shipping, and yer the VAT may be a killer or it may not get charged .... either way its a 1ghz beast with 512mb of flash and 512mb of ram :D
[Nexus One General] SpiersA:
Bought one in Italy!! Good ole military FPO address. Cant wait for cyanogen and other awesome devs to get this ball rolling!
[Nexus One General] Bumble-Bee:
Hah already rooted so devs can get to work :-D

on a quick side :-

jeux_1 does ya 3GS have the early bootloader that can be fully Jailbroken ?
[Nexus One General] th3fallen:
i ordered it as soon as the order page was online and i still have not recieved confirmation that it has shipped has anyone that ordered gotten their tracking number yet?
[Nexus One General] Constrabus:
Bought one and Engraved(USA)!
[Nexus One General] th3fallen:
nah couldnt wait the extra day for the engravement.
[Nexus One General] Bumble-Bee:
U may not get that till tommow if the phone was in high demand
[Nexus One General] Jackasaur:
I ordered one :D
[Nexus One General] Jackasaur:
err the shipping suppose to be overnight, so we'll see about this, I ordered mine around 11:00 or so. I haven't received any confirmation on shipping as well though.
[Nexus One General] th3fallen:
well if i dont get the tracking tomororw i'll get it hte same time i get the phone haha i got it when it had the free overnight shipping.
[Nexus One General] jchap2k:
Bought one and engraved my name and email address on it (USA) :D
[Nexus One General] th3fallen:
i'd be so pissed if it didnt come tomorrow, in their press conf they even said if you ordered it today it'd be on your door step tomorrow, so we'll see.
[Nexus One General] bigd5783:
I had the money ready to purchase then when I went to order it Google said I couldn't get the phone at $178.00. I call tmobile and the verified that I was indeed available for an upgrade and am not currently under a contract. I sent google an email. Hopefully we can get this worked out asap because I really want this beast. I love my G1 but this will be twice as freaking awesome.
[Nexus One General] freakzone:
Hello guys, how much does it cost in Europe, or you ordered it in US $ from google.com/phone? Maybe you won't pay vat, they should have a storehouse somewhere in Europe. It says they don't ship to my country.
[Nexus One General] th3fallen:
its avilable now bigd i checked a min ago just to see something else.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] mantrajt:
Hi:

Does having running apps slow the Hero performance?

I have constantly running the following apps

-Autoconference

-Voice called ID

and therefore (I assume) "Text to speech extended"

and I am kind of falling in despair with the lag of the Hero. I like it a lot, but the loading time opening apps, or popping up the keyboard is making me mad...I want speed, performance and eye candy...I think we all HTC Hero owners want this and bought it for that reason.

I wander if lag is experience in Android 1.5 in the hero + sense...what will happen to our phones with the Android 2.0 update?

Why does HTC sell products not fully tunned and let XDA or other developers fix their phones?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] craig0r:
Modaco's MCR 3.1 is much, much faster, IMO. When that's released to the public, I recommend upgrading.

Other than that, you can try a program like Autostarts, which I haven't used, but apparently it allows you to prevent certain apps from loading at boot time. Also, TasKiller is great, it lets you kill individual apps, or all running apps (it includes an "Ignore" list so any apps you don't want killed, won't be.)

As for 2.0, I've run Lox's Kogudroid ROM, and it is very very speedy, however it's missing the HTC software (aka it's vanilla android.) Once we have an official 2.0/2.1 ROM from HTC, I may go with a vanilla ROM like that one. I think I could pass up the HTC widgets for the speed improvement... but we'll see how the official HTC ROM runs, I suppose.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] itm:
Is there a way of having separate shortcuts to the video and stills camera modes? I'd like to have quick 1-touch access to either the stills camera or the video camera, without having to go into the camera settings and select the mode once in the app.