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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] stian230:
sorry we do it in English

see here if you can find it http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=299023

or Call Operator for Settings
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Tune_HOuse:
Dear masters i need some help for imate 8150 ultimate is hang on start up, and when i try to connect 8150 active sync do not able to connect with it because PC don't detect 8150 but its red light blink.is there any solution to recover this

if some one have SD card rom image file plz share with me

Thanx in advance
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] orb3000:
Welcome to forums

Have a look here:

http://www.totalpda.co.uk/forum/i-mate/

Good luck,
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Tune_HOuse:
Hi can some one help me??????????? or some one have imate-8150 sd card rom image file or know how to make ultimate sd card rom file??????

Plzxxxxxxx help me
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Tune_HOuse:
hi mods can you help
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] shep211:
I cant make up my mind. Is there any issues I should know about? Any help would be appreciated.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Bruce Inman:
I think its just a matter of preference, if you like hardware keyboard and tilt function, otherwise TD2 is awesome.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] naplesbill:
I was having the same dilemma. I liked the size of the screen on the Tilt 2 but it was just too bulky. I don't really care if I have a physical keyboard or not (I've gotten used to touch keyboards) so I ended up choosing the Pure.

I don't regret my decision at all. It's much more pocketable and they are basically the same performance wise.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] jdwilson:
I have gone from an 8125 to the Tilt and now the Pure. I am impressed with the Pure. I have learned to use the touch keyboard without any issues. GPS in the Pure is a million times faster than the Tilt.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] WMguy:
Had a Tilt 2, exchanged it for a Pure due to the bulk factor. Also, the keyboard on the Tilt2 was awesome but actually a bit too big if you can believe it. Lots of finger travel involved to cover the entire keyboard and, compared to a smaller keyboard, can actually make typing slower IMHO.

The Pure is a fantastic device, probably the best WM phone I've ever owned out of about 15. I do miss a static keyboard occasionally but the slim form and light weight are worth the trade off.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] rdstour:
I have a diamond2 instead of the Pure, but I definitely felt that it's onscreen keyboard and smaller size are a plus. BTW OP, if you are interested, I am selling my Diamond2, although if you are in the States, it wouldn't work on ATT's 3G data network. only edge
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] shep211:
I cant make up my mind. Is there any issues I should know about? Any help would be appreciated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Rhodium if you prefer to have the best hardware keyboard device to this date:cool:

And don´t forget to vote!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] irkan:
QWERTY all the way

If you are into typing alot (messaging, emailing, ... etc) than forget about full touch devices, .. QWERTY is the way to go, .. IMO touch screen texting would NEVER replace full QWERTY keyboard no matter how good it was

having that said, .. have you checked OmniaPro? .. It has QWERTY + AMOLED Screen + 800MHz Process and it is cheaper that Rhodium (Tilt 2) not sure if it comes to AT&T though

here is a link for comparison

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5024
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jcterry:
I would say go with the Tilt2. If you don't want to use the physical keyboard, you can always use the on screen one. That way you are not stuck with only the on screen one. (Personally, I like options.)

I used to have the first Tilt (it was my first phone with a physical keyboard). I don't think I will ever own another phone without one. However, I do find myself using the on screen keyboard every now and then on my Tilt2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] PUTALE:
i love the tilt 2. The only thing that really bugs me about it is the weight and the size. Other than that, it's a great device.

I think these are the question you have to ask yourself:

1-do you type a lot, and do not mind the weight and size. if so, go with tilt 2. (additional benefit of titlt 2 is the larger screen size which is much easier to use when you use the finger and brwose web).

2-do you want a small and portable device, if so, get pure.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Brodie619:
Tilt 2.....:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] halorin:
I learned how to type really fast using the iPhone, but for some reason the HTC keyboard doesn't 'catch up' to space bar button presses that well. I have to wait for the space to add in and the auto word correction options to go away and it slows me down.

I heavily considered the Pure, but I went with the Tilt 2 because of the screen. The device itself isn't that thick so if you wanted to go all touch screen you won't really feel like you have a needlessly large device in your hand. The Pure's screen is tiny in comparison to the iPhone and the Tilt 2's screen. At least for me. And I don't take many pictures, but without a reliable flash, 3MP and 5MP really don't make much of a difference.

I'd go with the Tilt 2 and find a good third party software keyboard. You won't be disappointed with the slide out keyboard should you decide to use it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bjevers:
Tilt2 for the screen and I like the face down speakerphone. I also like the heavy feel of it. The Pure just feels so cheap to me in comparison.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Doinshots:
I have the Tilt 2 as I wanted the hardware KB. However, after installing Swype, I am finding myself using it less and less.

The screen is also a bit larger in the Tilt 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ctbear:
I have used both and I must say the larger screen on the tilt2 is more useful than I thought :D

imo if you're a big texter get the tilt2...whether you're using the hardware or the on screen keyboard, its just a lot easier on tilt2

but if you like to take pictures with your phone get the pure...I found that besides the difference in resolution, the pure takes way better pictures...theres no match (pictures taken by the pure are clear and have nice colors...the camera on the tilt2, on the other hand, is just so bad that its impossible to not take a noisy picture)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] IamSonoma:
I tried the Pure for a few weeks. It is nice but I did not like the small keyboard much. Most keys were ok but the side keys for me were hard to get. e.g. press the one key and you get the two key, etc.

One other thing that bugged me was the vibration of the camera when I sat it down. Or sometimes when I tapped it in my hands. I took it back and looked at a new one and it did the same thing. No biggy.

I did return it though. They took it back without any questions.

My store was Radio Shack. $29.95 w/2 year renewal.

AT&T store 149.99.

I have ordered a Tilt 2. After testing it out at the AT&T($250 before $50 rebate) store it felt nice.

I ordered a refurb through Amazon for $50 and renewed 2 year contract. The new one was $174.

If ordered new through Amazon for $99 with a new 2 year contract.

I just hope the refurb is good. I am poor :).
[Nexus One General] mhaedo:
Hey everyone,

I'm relatively new to participating in this forum. I've been lurking for some time playing around with my rooted G1, cliq, and now my Nexus one.

While it's been fun toying with other people's work, I'd like to get serious about development again so I have something to contribute. Android really interests me and I'd like to learn the ropes. I haven't done anything with software development in years. At one point in time I was relatively competent with *nix based operating systems, scripting, and coding in C (never liked C++ or OOP in general, so I stuck with straight C, but I guess I'll have to stop being stubborn and realize that OOP is here to stay). This, however, was years ago. At the time I was running FreeBSD 2.2.6 and occasionally Slackware (forget the version) to give you an idea of how much I have to catch up on :)

My questions:

1) Does anyone have a recommendation for a Linux distribution that's conducive to Android development? I'm sure you can develop software in any distribution and everyone has their own personal preference for a distribution. My question is are any superior specifically for the purpose of Android development? (note: I'm trying my best not to phrase this as an uninformed newb question, as I know the eternal distro debate is quite futile and annoying. I'm just looking for a bit of insight to get me started specifially with Android development).

2) Could anyone point me in the right direction for where I can begin to learn about Android development as a whole? I'd like to develop a solid foundation in whatever aspects are most crucial. I would assume this includes basic linux proficiency (which I'm sure will come back like muscle memory), knowledge of C/C++, and Java. But I'd like to hear any input from those with experience so I don't waste my time reading material that may not be helpful.

Ideally I'd like to have enough of a basic knowledge of Android so by the end of the week I can write a basic "Hello World" Android app and continue learning from there.

One last thing. Yes, I do plan on googling it. And then googling it again. And I absolutely love the search function. The point of this post is to get a bit more insight about what to Google and search for :)
[Nexus One General] melterx12:
I dont know if you want to develop apps or work on ROMs and such. Apps are written in Java, and Im fairly sure alot of the lower level stuff is written in C.

The AndroidSDK is out for windows so you dont really need to have linux.

As for a Hello World app, read this http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/hello-world.html

thats what I followed to learn the basics, granted so far I only know enough to make a simple WebViewing application :)

EDIT: just a tip, when constructing the UI, read the part about constructing using XML, this is the ideal way to go, and you should get used to this instead of the traditional Java way.
[Nexus One General] mianosm:
1. The most condusive environment will be Ubuntu 8.04 (which I believe is referenced a couple of times on the SDK pages). Glad to have you here with us. : )

2. Here is a pdf on beginning with android, this is mainly geared toward application development though.

Have fun! : )
[Nexus One General] melterx12:
wow this is just the kind of material ive been looking for! Thanks!
[Nexus One General] mianosm:
Also, I've put together 2 or 3 of my own applications on Windows 7 (32bit), with no issues at all.

Just saying, if you have a windeers machine, it aint bad for building apps.
[Nexus One General] mhaedo:
Thanks for the positive response everyone. That gives me a lot of helpful info to get started. After I get my bearings I'll post a thread to help other developers get their start.

Here are a few other decent links I've found so far:

http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-android-devel/

http://www.devx.com/wireless/Article/39101
[Nexus One General] mhaedo:
No Turning Back

Well I just too the plunge :) I told my boss I want to go part time next summer so I get get back into software development. You have to follow your passion, and and I'm giving up a full time salaried management position with my company in order to do so.

I've gotten a good start. I bought a new laptop and gave it a nice fresh install of Windows 7 Ultimate. Installed JDK, Android SDK, Eclipse, Eclipse ADT plugin, etc.

Then took my old laptop and I'm in the process of getting rid of Fedora and putting Ubuntu 8.04 desktop on it as I type this :)

So my development environment is almost in place. Now all I have to do is brush up on linux fundamentals, brush up my my c, and learn java from scratch.

This will be fun :)

Any suggestions on a good place to start learning java specifically for Android?
[Nexus One General] joshuapurcell:
I don't have any specific links, but my suggestion is to benefit from and give back to open source projects. By downloading the sources for Android applications that are open and learning what needs to be done on that level to get the end product running on your phone, you can learn more than most any tutorial you will find. And while the next step of improving on those applications may not come for a while, eventually you will be in the position of extending that functionality you started with and making something new or just improving the existing application so it does it's job better. Pay attention to the licenses involved though, and make sure to not do anything that isn't permitted (which isn't hard to stick to honestly).
[Nexus One General] JoshHart:
Check Amazon for Head First Java which is a great starter for Java and OOP, another book to check out is Professional Android Application Development, I got both on Amazon for like 40 bucks shipped. Although I know Head First Java is used at a lot of schools like UC Berkley and UC Irvine, so I don't know if prices go up around this time of year that school is starting back up. I use VMPlayer on my Windows 7 machine to run Ubuntu when I need it, works like a charm and it's free.
[Nexus One General] mhaedo:
Just purchased both of them. Thanks for the tip.

Items not yet shipped:

Delivery estimate: January 14, 2010

1 of: Professional Android Application Development (Wrox Programmer to Programmer)

Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC

1 of: Head First Java, 2nd Edition

Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC
[Nexus One General] mhaedo:
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[Nexus One General] mhaedo:
Wow, Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop is quite impressive.

Fedora 10 was difficult to install and configure on my laptop. Neither the touchpad nor the wireless driver worked properly out of the box. It reminded me of similar install experiences years ago when I more actively used Linux. I do enjoy a challenge, and I was able to get them set up after hours of research.

In contrast, Ubuntu 8.04 is running flawlessly on the exact same machine immediately after the install. I actually prefer the UI, and the lack of useless bloated apps immediately cluttering my system is refreshing.

Thanks for the recommendation :)

About the Beginning Android book. I notice it deals with Android 1.1 with Android 1.5 only being mentioned in the appendix. Would it still be worth reading to develop a solid foundation, or are do you know of any more current information available?

I'm getting my start over at developer.android.com, but I'm not sure if that's the right place to learn java from scratch. I guess i'll find out soon.
[Nexus One General] JHaste:
i got news for you, 1 solid app that works well, does what it says and markets to a large group of people will make up for your salary loss lol

good luck though, this whole app thing and moving to android has intrigued me to possibly get into some development as well, or with friends or something... if there is a new market where money is to be made, this is it... but i was curious if google takes a cut from apps like apple does?

personally i say organize something together and sticky it to help future devs...
[Nexus One General] mhaedo:
Well I finally have my development environment after days of indecisiveness.

I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.04 on one laptop and an fresh install of Windows 7 on the other laptop, then setup JDK/AndroidSDK/Eclipse, etc on both. Then realized that Ubuntu 8.04 was installed on my slower laptop, and developing for an open source platform in a closed source operating system is a travesty. So I reformatted my quicker laptop, and setup a dual boot with Ubuntu on the inside of the drive so it gets the quicker data transfer rates. Then I had the pleasure of downloading and setting up JDK/AndroidSDK/Eclipse all over again.

Of course this was followed by hours of screwing around with different window managers and customizing things (and ending up sticking with gnome anyway)....finnnallly, days later, I'm ready to start writing some code :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dXsL:
could any of the true WM experts please have a look at this WEIRD problem.

please reply in this thread, as the other one is about UC.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dXsL:
to be more precise: the following 7 files consistently disappear from my SD card:

BsB G-Config.cab	100004	28-12-09	20:16:45
FdcSoft TaskMgr wm2005_3.1.cab	231564	08-01-10	11:45:32
MyStopWatch 2.0.cab	386209	15-09-09	07:25:56
pocket.rar.v3.80.cab	354726	05-01-10	15:33:35
TorchButton_v2.3.cab	238577	05-01-10	15:34:00
XDA QuickMenu.cab	182359	08-01-10	11:51:41
xdaShutdown 1.01 - WVGA.cab	440138	05-01-10	15:57:23

running this sdconfig.txt:

# sdconfig.txt
# pre: sdconfig.txt, xcopyce.txt and provisioning .xml file(s) in root of storage card, CABs in \_Cabs on storage card
# 07jan2010 dXsL@hotmail.com File creation
# 08jan2010 dXsL@hotmail.com Added provisioning, Interactive install
# Lock device (needed for install)
LOCK:Enabled
# Unattended install of programs on device
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\XDA QuickMenu.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\FdcSoft TaskMgr wm2005_3.1.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\BsB G-Config.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\xdaShutdown 1.01 - WVGA.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\MyStopWatch 2.0.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\pocket.rar.v3.80.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\TorchButton_v2.3.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\WM Live_PPC.ARM.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\SkypeMobile.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\DivXPlayer_PP_093.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\Facebook_v1.0.0.7p.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\GoogleMaps.CAB
CAB: \Storage Card\_Cabs\cecmd.arm.cab
# Unlock device
LOCK:Disabled
# Reset device
RST: Reset

message on the device: Error | \Storage Card\pocket.rar.v3.80.cab is not found

[EDIT] solved it! WM UC deletes cabs after installation. apparently a default setting I cannot change :( :( :(

[/EDIT]
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] henv:
I read this problem in other threads. I though the workaround was to make the cabs read only
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Syphon Filter:
I believe this is a "feature". There is a setting (somewhere in the registry I think but not sure) that means a cab file is deleted after the install process. The setting can be changed to stop this from happening. Also as suggested above I believe making the cab files RO is a quick work-around.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] benji155:
If you have some problems with running emulators and games or simply wanna share your experience with us, write whatever you want and you'll surely get your answer quickly.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] downbringer:
Gameboid runs horrifically on the hero, there is sound stutter, control delays, the onscreen buttons are unresponsive, the moment you put it into landscape mode the already low framerate drops through the floor.

I don't think there is another gba emulator on the market, I'd recommend you save your money and wait til there is an update or an adequate competitor.

Update: There is Mojo GBA on the Market as a gba emulator, however I'm not in the mood to purchase it, as lloydstsb charges me extra for out of UK purchases, if anyone wants to try it out and post their findings I'd appreciate it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] ratcom:
I own Nesoid which was great on my G1 however since having the hero I've been unable to use it because of the need to use the screen for controls which are crap. but then again I do love hard keyboard tbh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
Checkout:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=625014

Download http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/

confirm working data and testing 3d now

For newer build this should work ALOT better

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Tin boot has now been ported thanks to DZO.

Latest Builds [from me(22/1/10)]:

http://www.megaupload.com/?f=SA71F1MT

Quiet Builds (Doesnt display kernel text):

http://www.megaupload.com/?f=04HIVHK7

The easiest way to test is to download this:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zldjhfnkzk2

and copy androidinstall.tar to your sd card before flashing.

Working:

Calls,Data,Camera

Not Working:

Bluetooth,wireless,google audio search/dial

If you have a different panel type you can always change it after it's booted by doing "echo 1 > /sys/module/board_htckaiser/parameters/panel_type" from adb or /init

It currently doesn't seem to boot from a soft reset, just pull the battery to reboot.

**FLASH at your own risk***

Please remember to donate:

dzo donation link

Thanks also to:

rzk333

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After looking into dzo's code for tinboot its seems possible to port it to kaiser. has anyone started porting it over?

i presume the initial steps should be mapping the kaiser nand, then expanding the kernel to boot initialize the hardware correctly. Since im sure serveral people must be working on this i thought a thread here would help maximize our efforts.

Any help you can offer dzo would be grateful.

Added link to tinboot code:

Tin boot git
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
mainly for reference:

An example Vogue rom payload MBR:

Part1: 0100 203f 0118 0200 0000 3e06 0000 0000

Part2: 0119 233f 0133 4006 0000 c006 0000 0000

Part3: 0134 253f 41d4 000d 0000 0068 0000 0000

Part4: 41d4 043f c13f 0075 0000 005b 0100 55aa

An Example Kaiser rom payload MBR:

Part1: 0100 203f 0100 0200 0000 3e00 0000 0000

Part2: 0101 233f 0116 4000 0000 8005 0000 0000

Part3: 0117 253f 81de c005 0000 00b2 0000 0000

Part4: 81df 043f 81a9 c0b7 0000 c0f2 0000 55aa

Tin Boot MBR:

Part1: 0100 233F 0118 0200 0000 be05 0000 0000 : LBA: 00000002 (2) Sectors: 05be(1470) FS:RAWFS

Part2: 0119 233f 0133 c005 0000 0000 0000 0000 : LBA: 000005c0 (1472) Sectors: 0000 (0) FS:RAWFS

Part3: 0134 253f 0134 c005 0000 4000 0000 0000 : LBA: 000005c0(1472) Sectors: 0040 (64) FS:IMGFS

Part4: 0135 043f c13f 0006 0000 0000 0000 55aa	: LBA: 00000600(1536) Sectors: 0000 (0) FS:Unknown
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
first attempts have resulted in phone just rebooting, anyone able to help with this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
Man, I would love to help but I have too many projects on my plate right now. I do really appreciate your efforts! I'm not sure I can beta test, as my Kaiser is my main phone...