yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Thanks for your answer sir.

It it confirms my suspicions that there is really a difference

between the two methods
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Maybe you're right with the above explanation, but I do not recognize this problem. Everytime I change something in AC, I push the save and exit button and then perform a soft reset by pressing the icon that is in the Artemis ROM and all changes are saved. Don't know wether this is customizations related or anything else.

good luck to everybody with this problem and regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Thanks for your answer sir.

It it confirms my suspicions that there is really a difference

between the two methods. So I think if there are people that

experiments same problems we must advise them switching off in stead of resetting.:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pa3x:
Hm, assuming there is no one to confirm hide/show keyboard problem, i'm having bad flash. Will try to reflash and see if everything is ok.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Sebgti42:
i use that:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9CPAYZX3

you can download;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gabriel.twl:
Just like the link you pmed me, this is temporarily unavailable too? :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Dear Kuzibri,

Read post # 21662 for a very good explanation for this problem. Do not always assume that if you do not have the problem that it does not exist.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Sir AC working OK

Please check your customizations/Applications
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Macelangelo77:
Sir,

It's not an issue with AC, as registry changes are written. Somehow they don't 'stick' when performing a soft reset. The issue is somehow WinMo related, but I can't understand why some users have it, and some don't. I've tried it after a fresh flash (with task29, app data deleted, hard and soft reset) and I had the same issue on different occasions. I'm apparently not the only one, and the shutdown works fine for me. It's just something one has to know and difficult to explain.

Sincerely,

Mac
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gdallas:
I have just flashed 31.5, from 30.

my music would stop after a few seconds, thought 31.5 might fix this, but it hasnt.

any ideas?

Thanks

Artemis 31.5

HSPL 1.66

Radio 2.07.51.22_2
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Dear Sir Sternas,

I experience this issue since I start using your roms from v25 until v31.5 NLD and every version between them.

After clean install and

before

I install any apps I make some chances in AC and I must always reset by hardware button otherwise the settings will not save. So i think

people that are experience the same problems we must advice them to reset by hardware button.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
The fact Sir, is that you are the only one

from 7000 users (until now for ver 31.5) with this problem

Please give us more info

HSPL, Radio ver, customizations etc...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] digao100nocao:
Maybe WinMob take some time to write the RegSettings or something like that. :rolleyes:

It should explain the fact that some people has the problem and others has not.

To the ones who have the problem, try change the things in ArthemisCenter and wait about 5 minutes (do not let it sleep - the screen ON) and then soft reset.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
NO Sir

AC write to Registry with "SaveExit" button...without delay...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jirka607:
Just a little hint for everyone who will encounter the problem with Igo8 on this ROM just download the sattelites info from web and you re done.....

Have Fun....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] digao100nocao:
Hello Sir!

Humm.. I understand, but if it is a WM fact, and the RegValues take some time to be written.. It will happen, wright?

Well, I do not know much things about the way WM mannage the reg values..

Im just suposing it.

I'm searching for some docs thar reforce my theory :D

Any news I will post!

Thanks!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] NLS:
Well in fact from WM5 reg values "show" immediately if you read them, but are NOT flashed immediately.

WM buffers those changes internally, so that it will write less times but in batch mode the sensitive FlashROM and there is a tiny chance that changes don't get recorded (if reset too soon).

I remember many people yelled about this (me too) back when we switched from PocketPC 2003 SE and people believed writing to flash all the time would kill the chip (remember 5+ years ago flashROMs were more sensitive to writes than today - in fact they are still sensitive but not as much).

This is not Artemis problem, this is known for years.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Macelangelo77:
Sir Sternas,

Does this mean that Artemis Centre uses RegFlushKey to write changes directly?

Sincerely,

Mac

(the second one with the same issue, at least in the past...)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Dear Sir Sternas,

My radio and hspl is in my signature.

I do not want to offend you but I disagree with your conclusion that I am the only one with this problem Sir. See post #

21648

post #

21659

post #

21662

post #

21674

It occurs already after clean install and before any customizations
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
for some reg values yes Sir
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gdallas:
Sorry, Sternas

Went back to Stock ROM. Couldnt get my music to play on v30 or v31.5

all the best :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] NLS:
Remember that this function is also dependent on the vendor (HTC). It might direct the OS to flush the buffers to flash memory, but the vendor drivers ultimately do it (or don't or take time or whatever).

Count me as number 3 as it HAS happened to me in the past too with Artemis ROM - but also a couple of times with stock ROM. (i.e. after reset I find a key I have changed before, revert to previous value!)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
No problem Sir, thanks and have fun...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Dear Sir Sternas,

Here are some screenshots to clarify the issue.

Screenshot01 start position.

Screenshot02 push checked all and then push SaveExit

Screenshot03 open again AC to check settings before reset/close phone.

Screenshot04 situation after soft reset.

Screenshot05 situation after reset using hardware button.:confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] digao100nocao:
Man, try doing what I said: Make the changes in the AC, push SaveExit, wait about 5 minutes (do not let the phone enter to sleep mode - do not let it turn off the screen), and then soft reset it..

Tell us if it work!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Ok Sir I will try this option.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Maybe you should read my post a little bit better. I'm not assuming the problem does not exist, only that I do not have this problem. And I also wished the members with this problem good luck, so before reacting, read more carefully.

Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Dear Sir Sternas,

thanks for your support on this issue.

yours truly, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
+1 for that reaction,

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
+1 for that also,

yours truly,Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Ok Sir,

I have try this option but it did not work for me.:(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Why do you not consider to reflash the V31,5 version? Maybe you just have a bad flash. I really do not have this problem and I'm with Artemis ROM's since version 9. And further FYI, I do not deny this problem exists, I only do not have it.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] digao100nocao:
Dude, stop arguing.. You always do that..

It is not good for the comunity.

The other user(s) do not have any personal problem with you.

Well, like many other users I'm using V31.5 without this issue.. So I think that it is a isolated problem, so I suggest that you do exactly what Kuzibri tell you to do: REFLASH YOUR DEVICE

But do not forget to do a TASK29 before it. And if it is possible, REDOWNLOAD the ROM.

Sometimes a few wrong bites make all diference!

Good luck!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Dear Kuzibri,

How can you + this reaction from Mr Sternas although he did not replay on my reaction. That I'm certainly not the only one with this problem. See below my replay on his accusation that I'm the only one with this problem from 7000 users. I think you must turn off your "Sternas glasses" Mr Kuzibri.

Read the post numbers I mention in my answer to Mr. Sternas.

Dear Sir Sternas

My radio and hspl is in my signature.

I do not want to offend you but I disagree with your conclusion that I'm the only one with this problem Sir. See post # 21648 post #21659 post # 21662 post # 21674

It occurs already after clean install and before any customizations
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] huismeester:
Hi sir dit you no that twitter gives inlog trouble since 2 days
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Dear Sir,

Thanks for your replay but i have all don that.

This problem occurs in all my roms from V25 until V31.5

and all the other one between them. I don't think it's a isolated problem, because other users have the same problem. See post # 21648 post #21659 post # 21662 post # 21674.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] digao100nocao:
Hello again!

I understand and saw the posts you mentioned, but you have to agree with me that it is very weird that the HUGE majority do not have this issue.

All I can tell you to do is what you know:

1

FORMAT YOUR SD CARD USING THE PC

2

REDOWNLOAD THE ROM

3

FLASH THE 2.07 RADIO (again if you already have it)

4

DO A TASK29

5

FLASH THE ROM USING CUSTOMRUU.EXE

6

WAIT IT BOOT / SOFTRESET IT / TEST IT

7

CROSS YOUR FINGERS :D

Hope it helps!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
As Sir Sternas already asked, what are you other customizations/mods,tweaks, etc. Maybe there is an incompatibilty that causes this problem/issue.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
I agree completely with you! Alas, he did not answer yet to the questions about his customizations, mods, tweaks, etc. So, it's difficult to help him solve this problem. I would like to help him to solve this, but at this moment it's not possible to do without having more information.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] digao100nocao:
Maybe he did not crossed the fingers..

Anyway...

:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
Thank you. I am glad I have WM 6.5.(3)(5)? on my HD2 now. Awesome. I am even more glad that I could flash having in mind that "It should not void your warranty like HSPLs do, because it does not change your SPL." I also flashed my HD2 because I don't want to wait ages until HTC comes up with a 6.5.x ROM. Thanks for linking this. A little donation is on its way.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] delta-roh:
To all users with the discussed "reset-problem":

This small articel gives an overview of writeback caching: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-6700-xv6700/83872-writeback-caching-dangerous-tutorial.html. So, everyone with the "reset-problem" after making changes in AC should check, if the caching options in AC are turned on ("Disc Cache" - "Enable Disk Cache"). And, after all, there is a difference between reset and shutdown: A Reset initiates a device restart without flushing the cache buffers; shutdown does a buffer flush before the shutdown.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] majplus:
ROM for HTC HD2

Please help me how should import your ROM in my phone HD2. I need instruction.

Thank you for help me
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] schlumpfschlaubi:
have you ever read the first page or at least 5 posts above yours?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] molann:
1. please read the first page.

2. feel free to ask about things you didn`t understand)

Could you please share the source of this info?

why I you always writing in Bold? It`s quite depreciatingly in respect to other posters.

Dear Sir. I really appreciate your help in this topic - lots of Artemis users got help from you. But could you please avoid such posts - what`s the use of them for others? I guess you could PM this to Sir Sternas.

Daily number of posts in this topic is large enough to fill it with unrelated info which is of no use to others.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Macelangelo77:
Thanks for your list. It's quite useful to me.

Sincerely,

Mac
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] nickytheshaft:
Hello sir sternas

In sound notifications, all is set to "twitter" for sms, mails... could you have it fixed in the futur version so that the notifications really show what sounds they are playing?

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Dear Mr. Kuzibi I will translate my answer to Mr. Sternas "post # 21676" for you in Dutch .

I experience this issue since I start using your roms from v25 until v31.5 NLD and every version between them.

After clean install and before I install any apps I make some chances in AC and I must always reset by hardware button otherwise the settings will not save.

Ik heb dit probleem al sinds ik uw roms gebruik vanaf V25 t/m 31.5 en alle tussen liggende versies.

Na een schone installatie en voordat ik enig programma installeer

pas ik een aantal instellingen aan in AC. Daarna moet ik opnieuw opstarten via de hardware knop omdat anders de wijzigingen in AC niet worden opgeslagen.

Voor de duidelijkheid "een schone installatie en voordat ik enig programma installeer betekent

geen customizations/mods,tweaks"

zo ik heb wel degelijk meneer Sternas vraag beantwoord over customizations/mods,tweaks,etc. Zou u in vervolg de vragen en antwoorden beter willen lezen.

Met vriendelijke groet, Harry
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tiwas:
Problems with b31 and 31.5

After installing these, my phone gets extremely unstable, and some times I cannot even get to re-flashing from SD (don't have USB here at work). Is this a known issue? I'm running SPL-2.08.

Cheers!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Brains555:
Dear Sir,

I have certainly answered Mr. Sternas question about customizations/mods,tweaks.

See my post #21676. "After clean install and before I install any apps" This means No customizations/mods,tweaks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] hoc:
I had the same problem after installing ver. 31.5. without a task29. (former ver. 27.0).

Now I have done a Task29 and it seems very stable. :)

Hope that it works for you

Kind Regards

Erik
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Towserspvm2000:
Yep - I always do a Task 29 - it only adds 2 minutes to the process.....

Nice ROM Sir Sternas, by the way..... ;) Now I tell you what I have found handy, is the backup of the owner settings, bluetooth settings, Sense settings etc done by a utility of the Energy Roms. Not that I have first hand experience mind :p ..... But it is very handy to have - I did try an energy rom and used the back up program and it saved a lot of info as reg files. I was able to save these and use them when upgrading your roms. Saves a lot of time. Just a thought :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] delta-roh:
Sir, you can read it in the text I've posted:

" ... What happens if there are pending writes and you do a soft reset? You can end up causing damage to your filesystem's structure. ..."

This refers to a normal soft reset und the red reset button - both are not and can not be controlled by WinMo.

" ... Writeback caching is usually enabled for hard drives, because people need to shut down Windows to turn off their PC. ..."

This passage refers to the shutdown of a desktop PC, but it's the same with the WinMo shutdown function: The processes are stopped and all buffers are flushed - it's completely controlled by WinMo. That's why this function takes about 5 seconds.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jjollyroger:
hi,I red the article but I did not understand everything.. you write about "disk cache" page in AC, I disabled the disk cache cause I noticed quiet important lag of my device.

I've just managed the "full manila rotation" option in AC and made a soft reset (via reset shortcut) and the change has been saved.

so you mean that changing settings in AC requires the "hard" :p soft reset when the "disk cache" option is enabled?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tiwas:
Yup...didn't have time for it this morning, so didn't do it as I was hoping the task28 (reset+up+down) usually fixes most problems. Guess I'll have to wait until I get home, but it sucks being without a phone when I'm expecting calls :S

Cheers, though!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cb1100r:
Just for information i hope that you know that Task28 isn't only an HardReset ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Thanks..

I am thinking for a backup application

Guys, any suggestion?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] max2327:
Maybe Sashimi, Sir Sternas? Many users on one of the russian forum are reporting that this application are working great with your ROM's
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cb1100r:
i think is talk about Settings Exporter

sorry bad way ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] NLS:
Sashimi doesn't even need to be cooked (someone simply runs the exe).

There are other systems that can "reprovision" a fresh phone after first boot.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] max2327:
Sashimi is the autoinstaller application and settings exporter. It's NOT a simple backup. Just look: http://www.winmo-experts.com/index.php
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
autoinstaller applications are out of scope guys

for stability...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] delta-roh:
No, Sir. The article describes the following:

- If you use a soft reset or the red button, it may be, that the cache buffers are not flushed and that, therefore, there may be some settings lost.

- If you use the "longpress endkey" - "shutdown" option, the device is stopped under control of the operating system itself and you will not lose settings.

I do not know, if the AC disc cache option affects the caching of the registry entries. To disable this cache was only a hint and worth a try for all people, that have the problem of lost entries, when they use a normal soft reset to restart the device. After all the safest way is to shutdown the device with the longpress endkey function.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] max2327:
Stability is very important, sir Sternas.

And if autoinstallers could make your great ROM's not stable - we don't need them! :D

And, btw, I used many of your ROMs, but your last one - 31.5 - is the best!.. And the programs tab was a good idea, IMHO.

And thanks for very fast reaction in fixing a couple of bugs at the 31.0 version.

Keep going! Good luck, sir Sternas.

With regards,

max2327.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tiwas:
Yup. Couldn't be bothered to write more...hehe :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ChefChaudart:
when you change your ROM

To change ROM, a good backup (Sprite, SPB), and a restore are not enough ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tmihai20:
I am only backing up my calls, SMS, appointments and contacts using PIMBackup. And only this. I don't have that many programs installed. No games, nothing fancy, only Total Commander, BsB Tweaks (for those tweaks not present in Artemis Center), CHT+CHT Edit (I use v30.0 and I haven't seen the programs tab), Garmin, 2 versions of iGO (both not needing installation), TCPMP, PockeTwit and S2P. I don't need them immediately, so I install over in time :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] g10rg0z:
Hello guys! Just curious... is there a way to synchronise the device without connect it to PC via USB?

I also noticed that when I check what I want to synchronise via ActiveSync on PC then I can't check the same things on my device... what does this mean?..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jirka607:
Sir sternas may i ask you if you can include czech language to your next artemis i can even help with translation of the added things if you need

thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] dioxda2:
sync.....

DID YOU SYNC YOUR CONTACTS AND CALENDAR VIA OTHER SOURCES? (LIKE servers.... :))
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
thanks Sir
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Towserspvm2000:
I found this info on the Energy settings exporter, incase it gives you ideas to write your own! :)

http://www.wmskins.com/blog/backup-settings-of-your-windows-mobile-with-settings-exporter

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=118752
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] blubbhome:
+1 for bluetooth settings and Sense settings (cities, stocks...)

Owner setting is already handled by Sashimi :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] digao100nocao:
Humm.. Depreciatingly in respect to other posters?!?!

I do not think so. :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Dear Harry,

Unfortunately I missed/did not read that post,sorry for that. Yet, it still remains strange that you have this problem, while almost all of the other Artemis users do not have this. Shall we continue this discussion by PM's. I sincerely hope that I can help you in this way without "overusing" this forum. Then we can also talk in our native language.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] hav0c:
Great ROM.

Thanks a lot!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Thanks too..Sir
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] nikos k:
nikos

sir

I have problem with change wallpaper,end CONTACTS IMAGES.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Give us more info Sir
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pa3x:
yes, trough bluetooth.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cb1100r:
Exchange ... ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] pa3x:
Ah, yes, about keyborad show/hide problem... its dissapears after 2 resets... M$ and Windows :D.

So its deffinetly not a bug.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 14theroad:
Please stop typing in bold, not needed, if the forum can help, it will!!

You do not need to attract attention!!

GET IT??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Karish1989:
Hey Artemis,

Yesterday I installed the new Rom V31.5 it worked fine for me but it was without a Sim Card.

Today I got my Sim Card and i put it in my hd2. When I tried to boot it, it doesn't start suddenly :confused:

What can i do about this

Tnx

HTC HD2

ROM: Artemis v31.5 WWE

Radio: 2.07.51.22_2

SPL: 1.66HSPL
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Sebgti42:
Hello

You can try again

It's ok now for download ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
I have read your message over and over again in order to see what might be the problem. I have noticed that you apply certain changes in AC before applying any other programs/apps/customizations, etc. Could you please tell me/us which changes you make in AC before applying the rest of the stuff. Maybe that will help us in solving your problem. As I already stated/asked before, this can be done with PM so we do not have to overflood this thread and, as a nice sideway, we can talk in our own native language about that.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
having again unwanted reset during a call (with hanging on htc logo during restart (not telling me radio or rom version, only htc logo), had to take out battery and put it in again)... and i think, this time it was a call, not a sms during my call, that caused it. anyone knows, to what third party app this is related with 31.5?!... is it cht? ... maybe this is related to the sound it should make, when a new sms comes in or a call... and winmo can't load it for some reason during a call?!