yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] engfantom:
thanks to you for your version and really your version is more faster than any one but the only thing the new version of max sence ( fav. contact widget)

if u can plz put it on your next release ,,, i will not change your max sence version again. realay u are the one
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
thanks m8.. please.. post some good screens with the widget.. and if your setup looking good i will included as default...

the last words of @maxycy does not want to share version 1.0.4.3 maybe will share the 1.0.5 when he have it..

here is the thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=687153
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Whoa, b16b, you really are the bomb :D. I ask to look into some differences and you release a whole ROM for it! I will test that one for sure, but I'm testing some other things too. I'm most confident with the stability of your ROMs, so could you maybe release a newer CHome version? Then it's clean and I can experiment what I want on a stable clean ROM :)!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] forster:
Guess im the only one waiting for 21908 rom.... well im patient.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] engfantom:
i cant setup the new widget of fav. contact on athine os but if you want a pic that what is i mean here u are
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] engfantom:
hay b16b

can i tell u a something like a bug in your maxsence version

when i open a contact (all contact) and i tap the virtual keyboard to enter name

it make a black gab bettween the keyboard and the contact . that black gab make the touch not good it shift the touch. when i want to press on a spicific contact i must press under that contcat to choose that no on the contact.

am i make you understand or bad explanation?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oltp:
GPS problem?

Anyone else got an issue with getting a gps fix?

I turned on agps, downloaded the sat.info with quick gps and no fix after a very long time. Have this issue with the two last versions. Tried a rom from Faria and the fix was almost instant, so I guess it's not hardware related.

Can anyone confirm the gps working?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
i do not have idea about it.. and max sense.. but i will search for it.. you can also tape this problem on max sense thread will be better.. write our version 1.04.2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
i can't help you i do not have my tp2 any more :'(

that you can do is : jump to stock official rom or back to athineos working rom... if working that mean new rom have problem or you have a bad flash..

task 29 bla bla bla

but first do you have download the quick gps?

then do you have sure you have the right port and right settings on your navigation program??

you must can found around a gps apps for test just search..

otherwise waiting from an other user to report if work or not..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gmann1:
I try your ROM - ver. 23569 MaxSense, but have problem - How can I lock screen if I push power btn = sleep mode for phone and after repeat push is mobil unlocked ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Wow, I really like the MaxSense version. OK, it doesn't use a authentic b16b skin (yet :P?), but together with the windows skin for MaxSense, I like the whole package. It's just knowing you have the stability of AthineOS, the main skin of MaxSense and when you have to go through some normal menu's, you just get the perfect b16b green again :)!

EDIT: I don't know if you guys have the same problems, but I don't like that new slide down lockscreen (2016) at all. It slow and sluggish and doesn't look all that good. I liked the sideways sliding way more, especially for its responsiveness!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
Great to see this thread did not die. I am and probably will be a b16b rom user. And i am downloading the latest.

Here is my two cents on rom developing , not sure if doable.

Your roms have always been fast and stable (probably more than others'). But anybody knows that sooner or later (within 2-3 days of average use) the phone will be laggy no matter what.(damned wm)

So i turned away from sense and used one of your chome only releases accompanied by spb mobileshell.

Again serious lag after a couple of days of normal use.

So here is my question. If someone wants to use this phone and delay the lag as much as possible, and if that someone does not care about eye candy, just speed, stability and ease of use, do you have any ideas as to what could be done?

For example could we experiment with an even lighter ui, even if less fancy?

It is really nerve stretching to have to wait 2-3 seconds before you can actually read or reply to the sms, or even answer a call while using another program.

And let me add that available memory seems to play no part in my issue. When i used 64MB ram devices i knew that i couldn't work with the phone when under 10-15 megs of ram were available. But with the tp2 i have never seen the available ram below 50 megs. So it is not a ram issue, I have often had to reboot with ram>70MB!!!!!!!

Finally the sms issue is ridiculus. I have a lot of sms. I never delete any actually. Non wm devices i previously owned never cared whether i had 5 or 500 sms stored. Wm messages are truly slow. It takes me at least 3-5 seconds to start the app, stare at the 4-dots square for 5 secs, click the new sms, stare at the 4-dots square 3-5 more secs, hit reply and use the keyboard to write the reply.

You know what is the the fastest of all the above? Writing with the qwerty keyboard. Although i start typing immediately after i click reply (with the screen showing nothing of what i type of course due to the lag), it actually remembers every letter and presents the whole reply altogether.

I do not mind waiting to start a heavy application, of a huge excel , but i wish messaging and everyday-normal-phone usage would be as fast as with conventional phones. Even the phone application lags which can lead to missed calls and even misunderstandings.

I will start experimenting with lighter ui's but i would love to read your input on that
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jlavoie:
some mods to change the left soft key functions of maxsense.

to have it go to start menu modify

HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\Max_LSKPath

Value= \Windows\StartMenu.exe

for contacts page (for some reason doing it with the soft key makes all contacts button disappear. still works when contact page is selected from tab select page)

HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\Max_LSKArg

Value= --switchtopage Manila://people.page

HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\Max_LSKPath

Value= \Windows\Manila.exe

for all contacts

HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\Max_LSKArg

Value= --switchtopage Manila://people/browserlayer/?.page

HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\Max_LSKPath

Value= \Windows\Manila.exe

for favorite people in all contacts

HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\Max_LSKArg

Value= --switchtopage Manila://people/browserlayer/peopleFavorite.page

HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\Max_LSKPath

Value= \Windows\Manila.exe
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] getemj:
great work!!

Ive had my att tilt2 for about 2months now. and i have tried maxmanila2.5 with cookies home tab and i loved it, but it was laggy and froze alot and i noticed i only had about 30MB of free ram. so i decided to go with sense 2.1 titanium and used spb mobile shell for a lil while and realized that it was sense 2.5 which wa hoging up all my ram. so after turning off sense and running spb mobile shell i had about 50-60MB free ram.. i wasnt reallu satisfied with that until i found this rom and flashed it and my free ran went up to 90MB.. been using it for a few days now and have to say it is great! just wanted to praise the builder for a job well done!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] forster:
Any news on 21908?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seattle Rat:
latest 219** builds

Thanks for taking the words right out of my fingers! I tried the Max Sense mod and the latest 23569 build, but they are not for me. I am (still) using 21904 (HTC messaging version) with Cookie Home Tab and editor (latest) and have no (major) complaints, however, I would enjoy trying the most recent 219xx build if <HINT> it has been cooked by b16b!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Tool #1: never end your SMS application, always keep it running so it remains loaded in the RAM.

Tool #2: use some syncing software like My Phone to store your archive of messages online and only keep a shorter history on your phone. This involves some work, but saves a lot of loading time. (I sync on a scheduled basis and sometimes login and archive a lot of the messages, then delete all on the real phone and resync so you get the shorter list back)

Tool #3: do use some cleanRAM once in a while. Even when you have RAM free, more is better.

Tool #4: keep waiting until somebody overhauls HTC SMS app.

There have been topics around about the app quite some times already, but they always seem to die..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] forster:
Programs Tab

I hope that this will talk B16b to make 21911 rom for us!!!​

I feel obligated to do something for this rom. so here it is:

With program tab there is no need for CHT, so memory is not a problem. This is rebuild of manila so will rum smooth and stable.

1. Instal the rom

2. Unrar and instal cab to your phone.

3. Move 26xxxx_manila file (included in rar) to windows folder on your device.

4. Softreset

Program Tab for AthineOS S2 v2 23569 Sense 2.5.2016 rom:

AthineOSExtreemeProgramsTab23569.rar

Program Tab for AthineOS S2 21904 Sense 2.5 rom:

AthineOSExtreeme21904ProgramsTab.rar

It is not removible, if you want to remove it, you shold hardreset or do it via registry

This is not my work, i want to thank kimi_sae_ireba, mkucuksari and dotcompt.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
Thank you for your answer.

A light-responsive sms app is gonna be the slution i believe.

So i loaded the latest b16b tp2 rom.

Max manilla is heavy sh1t but attractive andonce you get to know it helpful.

Has anybody tried to disable htc messaging?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] forster:
Dear friend,

I cant imagine a reason ceeping messages from the begining of the world. no messanger would save you. As you said it is WM problem, so there is no help unless you use My phne option.

Now, for some laging, there is a solution to dissable some not needed manila options and to dissable push internet, 3G, Wifi - when not neded and bluetoothh allso. Those would spead TP2 much. If trhat is not possible for you, then there is no help, unless you try lighter rom, or android build for TP2(there is separate TP2 folrum section).

There is not much trouble with manila, as there is trouble with internet connections in less covered internet areas.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fade2black101:
hey people, I havnt tested out a custom rom for months now and was just wondering if there was still a lag issue with the htc messaging client?

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vinvv:
It's a lot better with sense 2.5.2016, but still a bit laggy. I can live with it though, but I guess that's personal.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fade2black101:
Okay, thanks for the response. I may give it a go then as I remember last time I tried it literally froze while I was responding to txes, and forced me to reset and got very frustrating. Being "a bit" laggy would be quite an improvement.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
if i owned a 30 euro 10 year old phone, then i would understand not keeping all my sms. But i use a state of the art phone, and i didn't pay to go 2 steps forward and 1 step backwards.

If a simple phone can hold 300 hundred and be as fast as with 5, a wm phone with 1000 times stronger processor should work better...

And i only switch wifi, bluetooth, and anything else for that matter, only when needed....

Anybody managed to disable htc messaging?

Also, b16b, when i uncheck the sms option "use unicode when needed" my sms are received by others as question marks!!!

In addition to that, in main screen if i slide the keyboard open and close again, the whole screen is moved like 2cm down so i cannot see the lower 3 icons. It all comes back to normal if i just hit the green and the red phone button!

Also, when i switched to greek language (0408) the tab names are "ids_ta..."something...(and the messages still apear as question marks)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] fade2black101:
I can't really argue with this post. Microsoft or HTC should create a messaging app that can handle 1000s of msgs and if not, then create a lighter app that can or develop an alternative way of storing that can. Resco contact manager is a perfect example of this but unfortunately it cannot be integrated with the text tab on the Sense UI.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schumifer1:
Sms without unicode (because that leads to 70 character sms) was a puzzle i couldn't solve in the limited amount of time that i had. So i moved to a completely different rom.

However, after discovering this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=504716

i think i might try it on a athineos chome version
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gmann1:
to b16b:

MaxSense 1.05 is out :D.

Will you make a rom 23569 with this MS version ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwanice:
hum..better question : b16b will you make another rom with 23673 rom ?? seem to be as fast as 21911^^

thanks ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gmann1:
yeah, you have right, 23673 looks better (and with combination MaxSense ... hmm, damn Rom :D)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] zorroz:
@ chef b16b:

did you make italian version with wm6.1+tf3d2.1 or wm6.5 (not 6.5.5)?

THANKS A LOT!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mulky:
b1gb, my li'l request are : how about the standard (no max sense ui) 23569 WOHC & CHOME only ? seems like ure being too busy in HD2 world :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] gmann1:
I want be not bad but I think this way is closed (too much time response ...etc. :( ).

What over ....b16b has his own HD2, own way (but it's OK) - let him go :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
i working with my blog and i do not have so much time i working 12hours per day

soon 21911 with new favebook tab
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
WOOOOOOOOW b16b, till now using your ROMs, now i'm on clean version (no manila), what about wm 6.5.x version ? always waiting for your work :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] forster:
Bring me home my man!!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
shipped new Rhodium ATT rom.. may you use it packages for your new version
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Tiemen_S:
Pffff, I switched to EnergyROM GTX Cookie thing for this holiday to Ireland, because the theme works more easily when outside (easier to see when it's sunny). The instability, I went nuts! It forgot the adress of my girlfriend which I needed to send a postcard (she lives in another country, hence I can't remember it by heart :P), /me was very angry.

Back to 23569 AthineOS again, much better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seattle Rat:
I am patiently awaiting 21911. Don't hate me, but I have been using Energy's 21911 Reference ROM for about a week and noticed a couple things that I would like to see fixed (if possible) with any future AthineOS 21911 release (pretty please w/sugar): Google Maps Satellite layer allows full zooming (instead of 1 step below full zoom) and GPS lock is extremely FAST. The only other thing I can think of would be repairing the speakerphone issues (not engaging unless repeatedly pressed sometimes).

I am having some stability and speed issues, especially with wi-fi router (something that never happened with AthienOS releases)- so I do hope 21911 is cooked up Athine style soon!

**UPDATE** I had to flash a different ROM because Energy's 21911 Reference with CHT just kept freezing and stalling on me. I can't narrow down what exactly the problem is, but there is some incompatibility with my software... Also, free RAM was almost non-existent after just a small amount of usage. In the meantime I decided to flash a new ROM release titled "Simplicity". I would recommend the 21911 w/CHT to AthineOS users waiting for b16b to release his custom 21911 ROM. It is BARE, FAST, and has an incredible amount of free RAM (both program & storage). I still do not like it as much as AthineOS releases, however, it is definitely, in my humble opinion, superior to Energy's current release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
i do not have found nowhere a fix for speakerphone have anyone any solution for it?

i do not have also the tp2 and i can make test..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Florestan:
Call History tab

Hi, b16b, and congratulations for Your last Sense ROM,

Actually, I don't have found any bug. Only an information: is possible to activate on Sense, or install, a new tab with Call History? In my opinion, it would be an important utility.

Thanks of all in advance. Best regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
b16b, I don't know about the speaker fix, I even don't know the problem, which problem the speakers has ? maybe I have an idea ..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
i think you can add it after flash.. must have instraction somewhere out there :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
AthineOS S2 21911 WM6.5 Sense 2.5.2016

Download HERE (Techtacy)

Change Log 21911 4/8/2010

*NEW Facebook tab

*NEW Messaging HTC Client

*NEW Build 21911

*NEW Adobe READER

*NEW Audio Manager

*NEW AUDIOBOOST

*NEW Facebook app

*NEW Black Skin of Sense

more...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Florestan:
Thanks a lot for Your kindness. I'll see to find instructions.

I've also seen Your new work for our Rhodium. I'm sure that it's very good, like all Your ROMs. When I'll have five minutes free, I'll flash it. A request: in italian? ... will it possible? ... ;)

Best regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
i do not have italian files for simple wm6.5 only for wm6.5.5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Florestan:
Infact, if You take a look at my signature, I'm using Your last ROM with WM core 23569. Splendid work, no bugs, very fast, finger-friendly. It would be better for me in italian ... but the actual WWE is good too.

Thanks a lot for Your attention. Best regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Florestan:
I forgot: I always prefeer Sense ROM, like my dear friend

fcasoli

. ;) :p

Again thanks of all. Best regards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
WOW!!! new version, thanks b16b
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seattle Rat:
Speaker-phone Issue

The problem with the speaker-phone seems to be limited to the 219** releases. What happens is that (sometimes) the speaker-phone will not engage when the button is pressed and will require a second press to initiate. I have not yet tested 21911 (THANK YOU b16b!!!) but am planning to flash the latest AthineOS release today.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikerobs15awesome:
im that guy right now. how long should it take to boot up after first flash. sorry guys im a noob
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Seattle Rat:
I have flashed 21911 and my apps have been installed... all I can say is FANTASTIC! Great ROM that resolves both speaker-phone problem and allows maximum zoom with Google Maps satellite layer. The ONLY problem I have found is that the Facebook tab does not appear to be functional. It does not show up as a Sense tab and is not available in the add/remove/re-arrange tabs setup menu. A new version of the FB tab (1.6) just became available- I hope that 21911 will be re-released with a functional version of the FB tab, or that the non-functional files/folders will be eliminated. This ROM is so very close to perfection! Thank you b16b again for your time spent cooking a ROM for a device that you don't even use (anymore)! I hope to see V2 of 21911 soon and please let me know if you want me to test FB tab before you post a final release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Basil Hartzoulakis:
Greek characters and Keyboards

Hi b16b

just a quick question. I am using at the moment your 21898 version (the best rom I have ever used!!). I have added the "b16b random acees greek" and the IME & Ez Input in greek and everything works perfectly. Is the 21911 just released compatible with these implementations of the greek keyboard ??

Vasilis
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
yes just install the greek keyboard..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
AthineOS v2 21911 Sense 2.5.2016

http://rapidshare.com/files/412007700/AthineOS_v2_21911_Sense_2016.rar.htmlDownload HERE (Techtacy)

Change Log on V2 21911 9/08/10

*Facebook tab 1.6

*New HTC Client 1.8.2017
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Snarksneeze:
I downloaded this and it does NOT have a Facebook tab. I have 1.0 as a cab, so it's not a big deal, but are you sure you uploaded the correct ROM?

Also, at bootup the ROM has about 50% to 52% of RAM usage. Are you planning to create a "Light" version anytime soon? Check out Jackos S2 "ShowLITE 1.4" was at 39% of RAM used even after I installed CHT. I couldn't install it on this ROM without creating some serious instability due to the scarcity of RAM. Jackosm talks about the steps he took to reduce RAM in his first post, if you're interested.

Once again it took me over 4 hours to download your latest. If I wait 24 hours, the download time shrinks to 20 minutes. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but you seriously might consider dropping RapidShare and going with hotfile. I bought a premium membership from RapidShare back when you were cooking for my Kaiser, but it's just not worth it anymore.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hskeik:
WOW, nice job b16b, your ROMs are the best, I tried many many many ROMs, but still use yours for long time, more than 6 months

waiting for WM 6.5.x version, cause I used to use it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
can anyone else confirm if facebook tab working or not?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Basil Hartzoulakis:
Facebook Tab

Its there and seems to be working

Vasilis
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
are you sure you have the right rom? the @basil hartzoulakis says working..

you can change the pagepool from 15 to 12 and you will win around to 7mb free ram but slower speed of the rom also with LZX compresion you can save some MB ROM not ram around 30 but is also slower.. and nueSpinLockPatcher i never have use it but i can if you want.. but i can test it.. 59% looking too many for my rom but i do not know i can't test it...

i waiting more reply for more feedback for 21911 v2 if facebook tab 1.6 work and how much % ram is in use..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
AthineOS S2 21914 Sense 2.5.2016

http://rapidshare.com/files/412317209/AthineOS_S2_21914_Sense_2016.rar.htmlDownload HERE (TechStacy)

Change Log 21914 11/8/10

*New Build 21914

*More FREE ROM