yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi xdawis,

tried to reproduce your problem, but cannot. Keyboard on my device is functioning normally in Opera (also on V54). Just for information. Which version of Opera are you using?

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xdawis:
Opera keyboard problem

Hello Kuzibri,

looked for for version:

It's version 9.7 build 36023.

I thought that with every new version of atemis the update for opera will be done by itsself , isn't it like this?

Thanks for your help

best regards

xdawis

P.S. If nobody else has this problem i will search for the reason.

Made some setting in artemiscenter, perhaps these probs are made by myself.

" F.e. set keyboard initial delay to 110".
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cupper:
Thank you very much adazamin for all your good advices.

Have another question: How long takes you to switch between systems in your HD2.

I'm thinking to exchange the new HD2 (that Amazon is going to send me) and some extra money for a Desire HD; but I hate to loose Artemis business advantages.

So, whay do you think, it is posssible to have the best of both worlds on the HD2?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
a little off topic, but for those who missed it, take a look HERE...

maybe this is going to be the best of both worlds... :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cee:
But than he isn't able to use his Base/EPlus SIM because the APN setting might be blocked.

As I said - just my ideas to check.

Greetz, Cee.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cee:
Hi lehrerbuch,

I use SPB Wireless with v54 GER without any probs.

May be it's related to other progs you've installed?

Greetz, Cee.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
any branding, including apn settings, should be gone when flashing custom rom afterwards... no? yes?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lehrerbuch:
I like the stock task bar ... and I have found a program for me!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lehrerbuch:
It was the SPB Wireless for HTC Diamond ... but i have found one program for me .. thx
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Thanks Sir

Artemis ROM used/use some parts from Huashan WM ROMs

-1.22.0.0 WWE (6.5.3 23127)

-1.24.706.1403 CHS (6.5.3 23137)

-1.27.1403 CHS (6.5.3 23137)

with Sense 2.6 (like OBOE with RSS at home screen) but for Huashan GPU/CPU.

GPU and CPU is NOT the same with our HD2

Now we have and Stock Android ROM.

"fire" to my lab...:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
fire away, sir! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
The version is right but in V54 Opera has been rolled back to this version,. See:

[5-2-2011] Ver 54.0 (Codename: Horus)

Quick Ref

-RollBack Opera Browser (to build 36023)

The build in V53 was 36053.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] maksym:
This is a great build if you only want WM. If you want to run Android as well, I found the following issues:

1) Running Android on top of Artemis, battery drain is very chaotic and the battery goes down very fast (2300 mAh battery switches off in under 5 hours!), when compared to running the same Android (Gingerbread) with the stock ROM (where a normal 1350 mAh battery lasts 10 hours or so).

2) The SIMore dual-SIM card menu does not work in Gingerbread if this ROM is installed. As soon as I reinstalled the stock WM, SIMore started to work fine both with stock WM and in Gingerbread.

Functionality-wise though, this build is truly amazing!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xdawis:
Opera keyboard issue

Hi kuzibri,

thanks for your report (sir sternas told already) , shall i conclude out of your sentences , that this is a known issue?

I just asked that.

best regards and thanks for your help.

xdawis
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] adazamim:
Hi again Cupper,

If you're asking about the time my HD2 takes to boot the Android build from my SD Card, I have counted it to be

5 minutes for fully loaded Android

. (Kernel version: 2.6.32.15_r2-ga236d1a tytung@ubuntu #5, Software number: DL DesireHD ARA v1.1, Data.img)

Sure this depends on factors like Kernel used (ZImage) and wither you're going to use Data.img or EXT4 on your SD-Card.

If you're asking about how frequent do I load Android,

The answer is only when I need to entertain myself with games !!! :)

That would be only on weekends.

My frequency is 1 - 2 times during weekend and never let it running but always get back to ARTEMIS WM.

It's always good to have your hardware working as it should (GPS, Radio, Cam Corder, Camera, .... alll) This you only get by ARTEMIS on your HD2:D

Android is only a Toy you use sometimes.

Not your perminent OS IMHO.

I always use the ARTEMIS WM - on business days and even during weekends.

If you love games, flash on browser and Facebook Twitter on daily basis then Android is your choice.

Business only suits on ARTEMIS WM.

It's your choice to make based on your lifestyle :rolleyes:

Good luck.

EDIT: Battery drains very fast on Android-SD-Builds as well
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xdawis:
Simore dualsim

Hi maksym,

having same problems with hyperdroid 1,7 .as well.

Didn't went back to stock-rom. What version of gingerbread do you use?

Thanks for you info.

xdawis
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] maksym:
xdawis: this one, it really is very good!

But SIMore does need reverting to stock ROM (3.14). Artemis prevents Gingerbread from seeing SIMore. Stock ROM doesn't.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi xdawis,

AFAIK this was not the reason for the rollback. The reason, I think but Sir Sternas will know for sure, is the strange behaviour of closing Opera with the double tap on the digital clock. That did not work in 053. Pressing and holding though still closed Opera.

Keyboard wise: sometimes it's mentioned as a problem for several builds already. Some users do have it, most don't. You could have a look here for that:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=486502

Search for your prob there or just post a question.

good luck and regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Sir, I answer your preview question

about the "issue"

Opera has not this problem in ver 54.0

Sir,

can you give us more info?

-Android ROM

-Did you have SPL 3.03 etc ?

I don't like manifest post
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xdawis:
Opera in v54

Hello sir sternas,

thanks for your answer about keyboard problem in opera. I am running v54.0.

It's only a small issue i can live with it.

Thanks for your help

xdawis

As i told v54.0 is a superrom ,thanks for your investigation.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Taco123:
+1

This would be great. :)

If this work, I think a lot of HD2 owner would jump into the Artemis wave :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Let's just state one thing first: everybody is entitled to his own opinion and I do not want to discuss/doubt your findings or experience in this matter, but do not blame Artemis for the problems you experience. About this issue I would like to say the following: Artemis is indeed compatible with Android, because a lot of users like to use/try Android, but is has it's price as it needs to be started from SD Card (which consumes a lot of battery power), but at least you can do it if you want. Do not blame Artemis for not being able to run your point 2, because Artemis is a heavily adjusted Stock ROM, so you may expect that these ROM's act diiferently, although Artemis is as close to stock ROM philosophy as possible. I personally always wonder/amaze me why people flash Artemis ROM and then want to use Android, or even WinMO7 for that matter. I agree with Adazamim's opinion:

"If you love games, flash on browser and Facebook Twitter on daily basis then Android is your choice.

Business only suits on ARTEMIS WM".

But if this is your opinion, I would kindly advice you to stop using Artemis and stay on stock ROM with the Android build of choice or buy an Android device. IMHO this is the wrong post, in the wrong forum, because what do you want to accomplish with your post? Just my 2 cents, you do not have to agree with my personal opinion at all, on the contrary. It's also not personally meant, but just how I think about it.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] huismeester:
Sir with all respect but If you use artemis ROM what do you do want with android
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RolandCruise:
I'd just like to say something...my opinion is: if you flash Artemis on your HD2 it means you want to use WM and, as far as I know, Artemis is the best WM rom out there if you like a "close to stock experience" (as I do).

But, if you seriously want to use android on your HD2 I'd say: just choose a good nand rom and flash it.

Sd roms can't have the best performances (battery over all) that are achievable having everything on nand only.

So, complaining about Android not running fine from SD, be it Artemis or stock rom, is a non-sense for me.

Then, on the topic "WM or Android: wich one is better for business" I'd say that it's a matter of what everyoneone intends for "business" ;)

As I always said, WM or Android, it's a matter of tastes and saying that one is better than another is not so simple as you (my two friends adazamim and kuzibri :) ) did in the previous posts (android=games and social networks vs WM=business).

This is just my humble opinion that comes from a full year of Artemis (wonderful, exciting and for ever in my heart) and a month and a half of Android on nand (a great surprise).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi,

as I already stated before, everyone is entitled to his/hers own opinion.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi my friend,

see one page back!

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] adazamim:
All my respect to you Roland and to your opinion ...:):)

It is not simple to say which is which, I totally agree.

Just wanted to share my experience, although its personal. :o:o

P.S:

You know you're my Android mentor :D;)

BTW - I bought the Lexar 16GB - Class 6 SD :D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] huismeester:
Hi Kuzibri

I just do not understand what these people want.

Two systems in one device.

This forum is about something completely different

I test on another HD2 WP7

But I will not complain at this forum about this OS

greatings from your friens huismeester:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Do not do that indeed on this forum, cause you will get me on your back:D:D:D

greetings, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] huismeester:
Your very ride Sir

I think they even regret by Microsoft when they see Sir Sternas Roms:D:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
well, i can understand those, how want all that is possible from and on there devices (as i am one of them ;) ) (like the user maksym - and he also stated that artemis rom is great)... ... at the latest, if they/we see, what is possible when some programmer like sir sternas does his work (and a lot of other great minds on this forum/board)... we become coveting(?)/greedy ... not unthankful! ... but always wanting more... and always the best... ;) (thats why we are using artemis rom!)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Artemis and Android

Maybe I miss something, but this thread is about Artemis ROM and not about Android. All of the posts regarding using Android with Artemis ROM and mentioning all of its disadvantages, like battery consumption, etc, do not belong in this thread IMHO. If someone wants to use Android, while also using Artemis ROM, it's fine with me, but please do not complain about the problems you encounter with it. Artemis=Artemis. You do not install it for nothing. You do that to enjoy all the improvements of Artemis versus stock ROM. I do have nothing against Android, but still think that WinMO 6.5.5 with Artemis ROM is the best combination there is, although Android is speeding up in the sofware mobile market. The nature of people is always inclined to follow the "hype of the day", e.g. Android, but newer is not always better, certainly when it comes to the HD2. Artemis and HD2 is a very happy marriage for those who embrace it.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
as i stated before, we are here because we DO think, newer is better! and you are one of them ;) or why do you flash every new version of artemis... as artemis rom has been fast and stable since i use it (v.18) ;) ... ... just saying...

and it is completely reasonable to complain about faults that people have with android running on artemis rom, because

1) it's stated on the first page, that this rom is android compatible and

2) it's like every other software, that runs with stock rom, but maybe not with advanced artemis, we can tell the chef and see, if there could be improvements...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
I agree on you with that, except regarding the post of maksym. However he stated that Artemis ROM is great, he advices almost to leave it in order to get Android and some other programs to run better and with better battery usage, etc.

See this:

"1) Running Android on top of Artemis, battery drain is very chaotic and the battery goes down very fast (2300 mAh battery switches off in under 5 hours!), when compared to running the same Android (Gingerbread) with the stock ROM (where a normal 1350 mAh battery lasts 10 hours or so).

2) The SIMore dual-SIM card menu does not work in Gingerbread if this ROM is installed. As soon as I reinstalled the stock WM, SIMore started to work fine both with stock WM and in Gingerbread".

I cannot conclude otherwise that in his opinion Artmemis and Android do not match, e.g. Artemis ROM is not suited for Android in his opinion.

I flash Artmemis to benefit from it's improvements comparing to Stock ROM, not to use Android or WP7.

Let's be clear: I respect his opinion, but do not agree with it, which is my right.

Just my 2 cents.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RolandCruise:
And I agree. Opinions are made to be exchanged to make them useful for our growth. ;)

I totally respect your point of view, my friend ;)

I just thought it was a bit too "extreme" for both WM and Android... :D

And I see your new microsd! It's pretty fast doesn't it? ;)

Well, our HD2 lead us to want always everything and more out of it, it's its nature...so from this particular point of view we could understand what "these people want" especially when they have only one HD2. ;)

Then, complaining about something not directly related to Artemis (because even if Artemis is compatible with it this doesn't mean every kind of android build for sd should work perfectly) in this thread remains something that could be avoided IMHO.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RolfWeber:
Works for me. no problem.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
You're partially right. Yes, I do flash every new Artemis ROM, but just to benefit from the improvements/benefits in comparison to the HTC Stock ROM. The only complaint I have is that it's not necessary to everytime complain about the "negative" effects of Android while using Artemis ROM, because they are logical. Android running form SD card, I did that also for a short while, sucks your battery, which is obvious. That's my point. You do not use Artemis for nothing IMHO.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi Roland,

Agree with that entirely and that's my point of view also and what I meant in my previous posts.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Ath73:
This seems to be one of those days, that Artemis ROM maybe running little bit too well ...and we always end up that same old topic ;)

Regards, Ath73
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] adazamim:
Couldn't agree more Ath,

:D funny thing , we keep getting on the same old topic of platforms comparison whenever we have no problems on ArtemisWM to discuss :):)

Bottom line, I suppose will be:

Artemis is running perfect on all members' devices.

We get to learn experiences form each others regarding other platforms.

All is fine :) and that's healthy :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] maksym:
Dear gentlemen,

By no means did I want to start a Holy War here. As you all rightly point out, Artemis is for business, Android is for fun. That is exactly why I have both of them on my HD2, one being for business, one - for fun. All I've done is share my personal experiences running Android over Artemis. I did not say that I installed Artemis to run Android - I would not do that for a number of reasosn.

Also, with regards to SIMore, I happen to have 2 SIM cards: one for business, one for personal use. I have to switch between them. That is why I use SIMore. That is why I shared my experience of using SIMore with Artemis and Android on top.

Let me re-iterate: Artemis is an excellent ROM with everything one might need to use HD2 for business.

Maksym
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Ath73:
Actually you didn't start anything, you just pick the wrong day (see my earlier post), so don't worry. (You just need consider the words bit more detail and you'll do well here ;) )

Regards, Ath73
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi Maksym,

point made very clearly. No war at all and no offense/hard feelings also!! It's just one opinion against another. We are one big family here, with all its pros and cons.:D

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ajtotore:
Where is my mistake?

I just finished installing Artemis HD2 v54.0 which went well.

But I can not stop the machine by the "on / off" button.

The long press this button has no tab "stop".

Where is my mistake?

thank you.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Ath73:
You can find shutdown and reset apps in startmenu.

Regards, Ath73
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] :
there is no mistake... you find an extra button to shut down the device in the start menu

Ath73 was a little faster ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
When you press the on/off button, does the screen switch off?

regards, Kuzibri

Edit: two members were faster in this subject, so see this post as not written!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] NathalieW:
I like to thanks sir Sternas for his magnificent job.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Thanks Sir, have fun...

and more good things will be come...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Sir, Artemis ROM use

"Long Press End Key v1.5.20203825.00" from OBOE phone 1.18 ROM

Stock HTC 3.14 ROM has

"Long Press End Key v1.5.20162730.00"

So no mistake Sir, it's new HTC "Long Press End Key" behavior...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] westfielddriver:
First a very very big thank you very much indeed, Sir Sternas. It's about time to promote you from Sir to Lord ;-)

I just installed V.54 and used the mass installer for the first time. It is a very nice tool to make life a lot easier after installing a new ROM.

I have two suggestions for the mass installer:

1 - please sort the files by their names (I numbered them to get the right succession as somtimes a language pack is to be installed and is does not work if the language pack is installed before the program)

2 - would it be possible to install one folder completely into the ROM, the other completely to the storage card? I know how to do it individually for each file, but simply using one folder or directory for each storage place would make life a lot easier still.

Anyway, you are doing a brilliant job!

Thanks again

Jürgen (westfielddriver)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xdawis:
radio ver

Hello artemis family,

never change a running system? ..or would it be an advantage to flash new roms by using the rom(3.14.162.5..) , which officially htc does pronounce for my hd2?

I am not an expert in flashing therefor here my question.

Is it important what rom version(3.14) first i flash for then getting artemisrom?

If the radio will be overwritten by artemis , are there also different radio-versions in artemisroms?

thanks for your infos

xdawis

P.S. until now i used goldcard method for flashing artemis. Thanks Oliver Weidel for his help.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Hi xdawis.

see my post on page 1 of how to flash (not Goldcard but in general): http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10518788&postcount=33464

Artemis does not change your radio, HTC 3.14 does that to version 2.15. Other versions will not work with Artemis 50+.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Taco123:
First of all you have to flash latest HTC-Stock rom without HSPL (please see also first post).

Artemisrom have no Radio-rom inside.So it will not be overwriten and no different Radio-Version.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xdawis:
radio ver

Helo kuzibri,

thanks for your quick report, my question more precise:

If HTC rom(3.14) is changing radio, do radio versions in newer HTC 3.14 rom differ?

thanks for your help.

xdawis
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kuzibri:
Yes, HTC 3.14 is changing the radio to 2.15 and no AFAIK it does not differ from other 3.14 versions. In fact ROM and Radio are two diffrent things, that's why you can flash different ROM's on the same radio version and vice versa.

regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kurt-willems:
Finally there is the O2 3.14 stock ROM available for UK and Germany!

O2 (UK): 3.14.206.1

O2(Germany): 3.14.207.1

From the moment I can't post mirror download links (I don't have the right S/N from it) but if there are O2 users here; you can send me a PM with your S/N and I will upload mirror download links of it (thanks in advance for your collaboration).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xdawis:
opera downloading problem

Hello kuzibri,

thanks for your help,

meanwhile another problem did occur. When downloading files with opera you are able to point to a specific directory on sd card . Comically when i want to choose a directory of the sd-card not all directories are shown ,so i can choose only between a smaller amount of directories . This problem happend in artemis v53, also.

That's one point i noticed.

Now, when i want to download files there isn't any problem while files are small.

Downloading Rom files f.e. 185mb the system starts to write to sd card folder, but after an amount of 70mb the system shows a window" there isn't enough memory". I remember this notice was shown in ver53, too ,but after pressing the "ok" button the downloading sometimes went on.

Now i tried a few times but no success.

SD card card is showing 1,6 gb space left. Phone memory shows 99,8MB

As i remember ,this topic was discussed before, but i didn't see a solution or found an answer for this behavior.

Even phone "set off" downloading is not possible.

regards

xdawis

using:

Artemis V54

sdcard 32GB class 2
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] adazamim:
Hi Xdawis,

Try using a higher class Micro SD-Card.

Class 2 is ok, but the writing speed is the lowest.

I can try to re-simulate your problem on my phone,

Give me a large file to download ....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sternas:
Thanks Sir, I am searching for S/N...

Guys your help, anyone with O2 S/N ?

send me a PM
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Ath73:
I can reproduce your problem, i was just trying to download artemis rom to sdcard. It's stopping here at 175mb. I have 175,8mb free phone storage and 5.3gb in sdcard. So maybe it's downloading file to phone storage first... do somebody have knowledge of this?

I'm using v.54 wwe and 8gb class 6 card.

Regards, Ath73
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] anubis.genix:
check your pm mate :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kurt-willems:
Mirror download link.

You're welcome.

In case of; I have already find some access to the O2 (UK): 3.14.206.1