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[HD2 General] cgrec92:
the connection still drops.

after a few seconds of browsing with opera the connection drops, when i look at the values theyve changed back from the ones posted below to these

Adapters=8

Count=0

Descriptions=8

simply turning the data connection on from the comm manager changes these values

RegWriteString ( "HKLM", "System\State\Connections\Cellular", "Adapters", "Cellular Line")

RegWriteDWord ( "HKLM", "System\State\Connections\Cellular", "Count", 1)

RegWriteString ( "HKLM", "System\State\Connections\Cellular", "Descriptions", "T-Mobile Internet")

(i have changes your values to be appropriate for mine as shown above)

is there anyway to force these values at all time so that they cant change? or to lock the values?

UPDATE: dont know what to tell you, i just tried again, the values didnt even change but the connection still dropped
[HD2 General] rodrigofd:
It is a nice try guys, i also tried to check for registry changes during the data 'lockout'.... however, don't waste time on setting System\State values... these are kind of read-only registry values... windows does not 'act' upon their values, but the opposite: various system events are logged on to this keys, so components can notify from those events...

This line though:

RegWriteDWord ( "HKLM", "Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{EF097F4C-DC4B-4c98-8FF6-AEF805DC0E8E}\HTTP-{3F31657F-90E2-4D6E-B5FD-16F825124C07}", "Enable", 1)

is more interesting...
[HD2 General] regis.stration:
Hmmm, do you have any other apps trying to connect automatically? email? stock? weather? when I was in debug mode I also turned on 'play sound' for connection disconnected and connection established, so I could track when the connect when up/down. This is found under 'Sounds & Notifications' settings. Not the manilla version; slide to 'settings', then press 'menu' then 'All Settings'. If you can hear when it connects/disconnects, it might shed some light on what might be triggering this. Otherwise, your issue might just be totally unrelated to mine :eek:
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
i do not poll automatically from any services

to try and fix this issue i have even removed my email accounts

no services connect to the internet

all i am using is opera 10 to access the internet and the connection keeps dropping, the values change RANDOMLY while surfing

im actually clueless
[HD2 General] ilijan:
I have solution: install back stock rom, it was htc_hd2_1.48.479.1 + LOCALIZATION PACKAGE! after that i install updated HTC_WWE_EastEurope_1.66.479.2 + LOKALIZATION PACKAGE, and everithing works well! my location works very well and connections to...
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
this sounds like it could be promising

i have searched in google and in this forum sorry if ive missed it but could you provide a link to this localization package?

it would be much appreciated

thanks
[HD2 General] ilijan:
http://sunnysoft.cz/htc/

here is the official 1.66 WEE rom + location package for Slovakia and Czech republick
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
thanks for the quick reply

i understand i have to rollback to rom 1.66 which is no problem

but i can not find this localization package for english?
[HD2 General] Frameshift:
I could be wrong, but I think there is no English localization package, because the WWE is already in English.
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
argh

well in that case the localization package does not apply to us
[HD2 General] rodrigofd:
I am really too much frustated as most in this thread with the data issue....

i came with up with an idea: could it be that this mess-up sets off when we start flashing ROMs to our phones? maybe somewhere in the process.. like the change in the HardSPL... that could explain that some people are getting better results reverting to stock roms...
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
many people here have had the problem from day 1, including me with the T-Mobile stock rom.

i have tried every rom including stock and custom and i always have to end up switching off hsdpa/hsupa (cutting my connection speed by 1/3) because it messes up my connection
[HD2 General] rodrigofd:
Have you tested for a significant amount of time, your phone internet use, with both HSDPA and HSUPA disabled, that is, plain UMTS ? Was the connection 100% stable and usable?

I've had various issues regarding connectivity and data since day 1 with my HD2 (3 months ago)... but lately , my main issue is like this:

when i use internet in any browser or app, phone attemps to initiate 3G data connection, it takes like 8 - 10 seconds (same as with all my other phones) .. then it switches to HSPA briefly, to do the actual transfer, and it works fine and fast for some time.. let's say... 1 minute...sometimes less, or more...

then , all of a sudden, such app/browser, stops being able to transfer data, or navigate.. BUT data connection appears to remain established...

I've also tried ALL stock roms, more than 12 different custom ROMs, every single radio, every single flashing/reformating/etc technique, different carrier SIM cards, different SD cards, different usage combinations, (although i already have issues without setting or installing anything at all)... and in very varied physical locations and times...and many proposed tweaks (EnableGWDetection, disable phone off for x minutes.. etc)

What i really can figure out, is that why there seems to be a small group of people having this unbearable issue with the HD2? i must conclude that, or else 90% of this forum audience would be complaining and posting in this kind of threads...

So, if that is the case, i think we could try to find out which things we actually have in common or share, so as to find the cause.. what do you think ?? cgrec92? others? ..

i myself, am using a telstra 850/2100 version, in my country (argentina, same 3G as AT&T)... actually that is my main suspect: using a half-compatible 3G band in a full AT&T 3G 850/1900 american network...
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
just to end that little suspect i highly doubt it's a band compatibility problem, otherwise you'd be getting no connection at all, and from the problem you've described yours is ALMOST identical to mine.

for me, everything happens like you said, it's fine for a minute, maybe less or more, then the connection hangs, usually goes from H to 3G, then hangs, then drops, but I also get an error message saying: cannot connect for an unknown reason.

i have googled this and it seems common amongst WM devices and posts about this issue date back to 2004 :( noone has a fix from what i can see

i also find it hard to believe that others are not experiencing this issue.

but you have to understand that I don't have a damn clue what it could be, I have sent my phone off for repair, had a COMPLETELY NEW phone, NEW SIM card, NEW storage card, essentially every single component of the phone has been replaced.

it must be something specific to our area, nothing else makes sense.
[HD2 General] teddmf:
I also have the same problem. Similar sceanrio. Telstra T9193 model, using HSPL-1.42, asian WWE 1.66 stock ROM, 2.09 radio on AT&T. The data connection stops even with HSPA disabled and using straight 3G. I reduced my e-mail refresh to 15 minutes and stock and weather to 1 hour and the frequency of the problem did lessen. I believe there has to be an interface/IP protocol stack issue with the applications accessing the 850 radio interface.
[HD2 General] TheRoggan:
Same issue with the drop in data connection here. Operator 3 in Sweden. Stock 1.66 rom and no major mods except the usual cookies home tab etc.

Strange thing is that i have been using the phone for well over a month without any connection problems what so ever... However last week this problem came up and now i need to toggle the data connection off/on to get internet connectivity working...

This might have been related to a hard reset and re-installation with other polling scheduled for email and weather which i did about 2 weeks ago, after that i reduced the time between pollings and with great positive effect on Battery life (from friday morning charge to sunday late night i had over 50% left, though quite little usage), but it seams instead i have the connection issue...

I dont have issues with the connection dropping while im using it, it seams its only dropping when its idle or that it gets stuck when some service is atempting to connect while the device is locked.

One thing which i did install quite recently is a reg adjustment to get the phone to just turn off while pushing the power/hangup button instead of locking (as im using exchange and forced pin every hour which is triggered always when the phone locks), could have something to do with it...?

This is my primary issue with the phone (second to the force pin always after lock issue)... Hope the problem is found and a solution is created. Could be operator based as well?
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
I've actually had enough of this.

From the 5 months of testing with this issue i have to say that it is very related to the amount of activity you are using.

For example the connection may stay stable for a few minutes if doing light internet use, but if you open three tabs and load a web page in each it's almost guaranteed to drop.

The problem could easily be resolved if we could find the common denominator between all of us.

But there doesn't seem to be one

1) Some people use storage cards and others don't

2) Happening to people in different parts of the world

3) Happening to people on different operators

4) Doesn't seem to be the phone (i have sent it off for repair and had it exchanged so has DORMIU)

5) Not a connection issue as it can happen even if you have 4 bars of H

6) Tried different combinations of ROM

6) Tried different combinations of Radio

am i missing ANYTHING?
[HD2 General] Sean3:
teddmf, I have the same model and network. I use to have the data freeze daily with polling email and updating weather. I made several adjustments to fix the problem, but going back and isolating it, the silver bullet was disabling My Location in the registry...HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila Enable.WeatherLocation dword=0 and soft-reset. This won't disable it in the clock, just the weather tab. The problem was, My Location would update just fine, but once my email tried to subsequently establish a connection to check for mail, something would put up a wall and prevent it from connecting. After it made several tries and could not connect, the entire data connection would crash. I watched this happen. It hasn't happened since. By the way, the whole time I wasn't using My Location to update weather, but rather had assigned my specific city to update.
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
So you have no issues updating your weather and email now, im really glad one person's had this resolved :)

But how do you find surfing the internet?

Which browser do you use?

Has it ever disconnected while browsing the internet?
[HD2 General] Sean3:
CG, I was reading over your post and the thing I haven't done is open more than two tabs at any given time, and I rarely do that. I surf pretty heavily using the stock Opera 9.7 and yes it sure would disconnect. By that I mean, I would be going along just fine on a web page and then click a link and get that pop up that says unable to connect for some unknown reason. What I think was happening is that my email had been trying to connect along the same time and couldn't and then that would fubar the connection entirely. I haven't had that problem since disabling the "My Location" in the registry. The difference it seems is that My Location updates using data and agps or gps, I believe. That extra combo of gps thrown into the mix maybe hogging or freezing a com port.
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
So it's safe to say that since disabling MyLocation, whilst heavy surfing on the Internet your connection no longer drops out?

I have tried your registry tweak.

I have no e-mails polling

I have disabled the weather service completely

I do not sync Facebook or Youtube etc automatically

I have even disabled internet time sync

I literally have NO services connecting to the Internet apart from my Opera browser, and even while browsing one web page the connection drops out and it seems to be getting more frequent. Now it even drops out often if HSDPA etc is disabled.
[HD2 General] Agoattamer:
I have been fighting this battle and have had many posts about it on the forum. At one time I thought I had it beat but it came back on its own. Was gone for a month then came back for 3 weeks then was gone again for weeks then came back again.

I too believe it has something to do with weather and email. My email was set to auto update. I would go to my email tab and see it saying disconnecting. And it was stuck. Of course connection was dropped. I have since disabled auto update of emails and it has been over a month with no data connection freezes. Phone has performed beautifully since then.

Quite possibly it may be caused by emails connecting and weather connecting at the same time while phone is in standby. Weather might be connected and emails is trying to disable the connection and that is where the clash happens. One turning off the connection while the other is connected. Since then I have gotten used to checking emails manually. Everything has been stable.

To add to this. When my connection was working properly I would see 3G on my phone when it was idle. It would jump to H when something tried to connect to the internet. When I had issues it would be H all the time.

But what causes it to go from good to bad? It is some kind of bug I think. Twice when my phone was constantly on H I went to weather and change update from 1/2 hour to 1 hour and my phone immediately went to 3G from H. Just changing something with the weather caused my connection to change and work great again.

So is it a problem with the email or the weather? Somewhere here lies the issue. I have seen many posts on this forum stating turning off auto emails fixxed the connection issue. Maybe weather and emails just don't work good together.

For the record I have had no issues using opera no matter how many tabs I have open.

I am using sea wwe 1.66 official rom with 2.09.51.03_2 radio on a T9193 with ATT in USA.
[HD2 General] Nimche:
I don't use the sense but only default windows page.

There is no weather to update.

I don't browse on the internet at all on my phone.

Only emails and only email.

I get disconnected several time per day. I checked couple of ROMs and no fix for it.

I am experienceing a different thing now, that once in a while if I don't reset my phone, when my alarm goes off in the morning, the phone freezes and it will miss the alarm.

So, I hope we get some fixes on new updated ROMs.

I want a ROM with plain only OS on it and nothing else. I don't use Sense/
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
I have to agree with you here.

I have nothing set to autoupdate.

I have disabled mylocation and COMPLETELY disabled the weather service through the registry and yet the connection dropout is persistent.

I'll look a bit deeper to see if I can disable the e-mailing service, hopefully this is possible, if i still get dropouts, then as i thought it is not an issue with these.

THESE ARE THE POSSIBLE SERVICES TO DISABLE:

AppointmentService

AudioManagerService (irrelevant)

CameraAlbumService (irrelevant)

Contacts (irrelevant)

DocIndexerService (irrelevant)

HomeService (irrelevant)

InternetPushService (WILL TRY NOW)

LauncherService (WILL TRY NOW)

Messaging (irrelevant)

SettingService (irrelevant)

TwitterService (not used)

WeatherService (TRYING AGAIN)

WorldClockService (WILL TRY NOW)

UPDATE

Guys, things look very promising!

I'll keep you updated, testing further...
[HD2 General] teddmf:
I will give it a go and let everyone know how that works
[HD2 General] Sean3:
I'm confident that it is the My Location service. I've re-enabled it twice and the first time my email tries to poll, the connection is toast. I was thinking, when you initially go through the network set-up, is it possible your network activates agps? I've never looked for that setting, so not sure where it is. The reason I ask is that My Location crashes my connection when it updates weather and some other service subsequently tries to use it. My Location uses data and I believe either agps or gps to fix your exact spot. The agps/gps part is what I believe was causing the foul up in a comm port somewhere. I'm again reaching here, and I know you're not using any services that require it, but agps is the only thing I haven't seen mentioned so I thought I would throw it out there.
[HD2 General] Nimche:
If I were to disable all of these services that you have mentioned, what would be the benifit of having a smart phone?

I got this restart app that it will do soft reset, and I do that every now and then. At least i don't get frustrated over this issue and thanks god HD2 is fast enought to make this happen in afew seconds.

I am always here to find more solution to this problem. Will let you know of any finds.
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
i completely agree with you

but if we are able to identify what it is causing these issues then maybe we can find a fix :)
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOUND - TESTING FURTHER

5 TABS OPEN

ALL RECEVING DATA

WHILST DOWNLOADING 20MB FILE

RECEIVED TEXT WHILE SURFING

DOWNLOADED WEATHER WHILE SURFING IN THE BACKGROUND

DOWNLOADED EMAIL WHILE SURFING IN THE BACKGROUND

very successful so far

never held a connection so long with such heavy usage.

all services connecting to the internet and constant HSDPA
[HD2 General] tgerbracht:
So what's the possible solution?
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
i'm still testing please bare with me, i'm trying out a couple more settings
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
Turns out what I was changing in the registry is related to PAP/CHAP authentication.

Setting the value to 3 made it more stable but in the end it went.

Sorry guys.
[HD2 General] Nimche:
keep up the good work

Do you guys know if there is any ROm I can get without Sense on it?
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
miri on htcpedia offers a manila free version
[HD2 General] tgerbracht:
Nice try friend =)
[HD2 General] Karasewicz0:
I had the samw problem but my phone was working fine on H and 3G when I was at home or somewhere else. Problem stars in my job. In some place of my job was ok and in other not. I always had a H connection with full network coverage. Frend next to with mobile from Tmobile UK (the same me) has everything working fine. I called Tmobile that I have the problem with my internet connection. They send me text with SIM UPGRADE. I removed battery as they told me to do for 1 minete, put it back and problem gone. Now running sweet.
[HD2 General] DORMIU:
What a living hell!!!

Are we, the paying customers, really supposed to spend so much time and effort just to make the damn internet connection work in our expensive HD2? Shouldn't HTC be all over this issue? After all, this phone without internet makes no sense (no pun intended! ;))

:mad:
[HD2 General] Starfury:
I have seen several mentions of "fixes" but ultimately all of this is a sticky-plaster and not a real fix as we shouldn't have to switch stuff off to get it to work properly. HTC/Microsoft should be permenantly fixing it by re-writing code.

:(
[HD2 General] Starfury:
Great minds think alike... (and apparently hit submit reply at exactly the same time) :)
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
Guys do you think that this is an issue with every phone but for some they are not affected or an issue with our current setup?

Because if we can decide one or the other it'll make looking through the registry much easier
[HD2 General] Starfury:
I personally think it has the potential to affect any handset running Windows Mobile 6.5
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
and i still dont understand how if i use 3g only i get 150kb/s speeds and if i enable hsdpa i get 270kb/s???

how is this possible when i have full H signal?
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
guys do you remember a few pages back someone posted a mortscript which changed some values but the problem was that something was changing them back? well i have manually changed the values as posted in the mortscript and have started using internet explorer instead of opera, first of all browsing is about 10th times faster, but the connection is very stable! i'm thinking opera changes the values of something in the registry.. any ideas?
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
I've found the problem guys, it was posted further back, we just need a solution

1) Turn on your data connection: now navigate to HKLM\System\State\Connections\Cellular - everytime you turn on your data connection (internet works) these values show your connection settings, eg. "Descriptions" = "T-Mobile Internet"

2) Wait for your connection to drop out: close the registry editor and open it again (to refresh values) and navigate back to these values, you'll notice that they've changed! eg. "Descriptions" = "[?]"

Now there is something which is changing these values, we just need to do a before and after of the registry and compare what's changed because at a random point something triggers these values to change.

Anyone with computer knowledge?
[HD2 General] cgrec92:
Could this be of use?

Could this be of help?

Use a manual method to reset TCP/IP

Note This section is intended for advanced computer users. If you are not comfortable with advanced troubleshooting, ask someone for help or contact Support. For information about how to contact Support, see the Microsoft Help and Support contact information Web site:

http://support.microsoft.com/contactus (http://support.microsoft.com/contactus)

The reset command is available in the IP context of the NetShell utility. Follow these steps to use the reset command to reset TCP/IP manually:

1. To open a command prompt, click Start and then click Run. Copy and paste (or type) the following command in the Open box and then press ENTER:

cmd

2. At the command prompt, copy and paste (or type) the following command and then press ENTER:

netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt

Note If you do not want to specify a directory path for the log file, use the following command:

netsh int ip reset resetlog.txt

3. Reboot the computer.

When you run the reset command, it rewrites two registry keys that are used by TCP/IP. This has the same result as removing and reinstalling the protocol. The reset command rewrites the following two registry keys:

SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\

SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\DHCP\Parameters\

To run the manual command successfully, you must specify a file name for the log, in which the actions that netsh takes will be recorded. When you run the manual command, TCP/IP is reset and the actions that were taken are recorded in the log file, known as resetlog.txt in this article.

The first example, c:\resetlog.txt, creates a path where the log will reside. The second example, resetlog.txt, creates the log file in the current directory. In either case, if the specified log file already exists, the new log will be appended to the end of the existing file.
[HD2 General] rodrigofd:
Sorry CG, but i think such reg approach is mistaken. As i wrote several pages before, such reg. settings are writter 'after' system events, not 'read upon' to perform some behaviour... so it is not that changing such values, phone will do one thing or another.. it's the oppposite.. more of a repository for various system indicators... for apps to use them... :(

HOWEVER, observating that such settings change after we experience the data 'dropout' ... is evidence that 'something' happens on the background, that is locking the connection.... i really hoped and suspected about the recently theories posted.. (my location svc, using data connection + agps etc) ...

On regards my location service, if i'm not wrong , it does not use 'AGPS' technology, but instead, some Google patented technique, that estimates current world location, by using GSM antenna ID and signal intensity, and compare such values to a database (fed by users around the globe using google maps).

Anyway, it seems like an interesting lead..