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[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Barogi44:
Im just finishing off 28205 V2. i am also uploading the cabs to install manila, ezinput, and windows live, that way if theres people that dont want it they dont have to install it.

So far the only bugs i know of is that the default theme has some graphical issues, but you can simply switch to any other theme, or install your own. :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] ski21:
Downloading and trying it out. Do you know if the weather works in manilla?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jadesse:
Just flashed the V1 & did find one bug. The e start contacts don't open from the soft key or from the start menu.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jadesse:
Just flashed V2 contacts & the calendar will not open. Weather does not up date either.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Barogi44:
k thanks ill fix this. for the weather you have to do the usual weather fix.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jadesse:
You'll have to refresh my memory as your 6.5 ROM is the only one that I flashed that required the weather fix.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] ski21:
Flashed your rom, seems pretty quick. I can't get the weather in manilla to update. This isn't just your rom. It's on just about all roms except for Vin's and nagroms rom.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Barogi44:
If you go over to egzthunder1's thread they were talking about the weather fix and he also has the download for it.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jadesse:
Didn't have to do the weather fix on his ROM.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Barogi44:
k ill look into it...are you using titanium or manila?

V3 will be posted in about 10 mins. i fixed the contacts and calendar.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigboy292000:
Hmmm... intrigued :)

Is this carrier generic? Anything we need to do to make sure interwebs and text work?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Barogi44:
Yes this rom is generic and you must install your appropriate DCD carrier cab.

As far as i know now everything is working.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Hey Barogi!

V3 already? Wow, you are moving thing quickly around here :D

I noticed that you are including eZinput as a separate cab. Have you been successful installing it? I have tried to cook it (both versions 1.5 and 2.1) in and install it as a separate cab with no luck and there are a few people out there who would like this feature in future roms. Let me know if you have any pointers. Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Heresfitz:
I am having problem downloading V3....Any sugustion?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Feenixforce:
Anyone wanna help a brotha out, and submit my IMEI to T- for me? i'm hurr in canada, needing the unlock, ill give some1 a google voice invite for their time, if they're in need of one, pm me.
[HD2 General] pharao:
I just wasted close to a thousand US$ on the most brain damaged SmartPhone ever constructed by HTC - and they've got a lot of brain damaged products to show for.

For one, that IDIOTIC keyboard they got built in there NEVER,EVER lets me finish what I'm typing.

IT allways(!) ends up "correcting me" in mid word and 99% of the time, it corrects it wrongly.

It simply exchanges one letter for another and I'm sure is darn proud of itself while doing it.

And no, I already tried disabling "auto-correction" in the device input options, and it doesn't change a thing.

This is just a moronic design!!!!

How the f$#! can I get that plain old & boring Windows Mobile keyboard to work on that thing?!
[HD2 General] dgtel2:
Then try TouchPal Pro. But for me, I prefer HD2 native keyboard. The T9 mode is useful.
[HD2 General] Archer:
I'd recommend calibrating the screen (with your thumbs, as if you're using the phone), and just slow down and get used to it. It does take a while, but I can type very fast with it now and very rarely make mistakes. The keyboard takes a lot of practice, but is worth it.

I have T9 mode on and auto-correct off. I like to have suggestions, but don't like it forcing words on me. It usually gives me the correct word by the time I'm half way through typing it, so this obviously speeds up typing.

Incidentally, T9 rather eerily learns how you type. It seems to adapt to your typing style as you go along, so stick with it, or just turn it off completely if you want no suggestions at all.
[HD2 General] Prinzessin Horst:
Deactivate T9 on the keyboard.

I didn't feel happy with the original keyboard, too.

Tried Resco keyboard 5.23.

Now i have a better accuracy.
[HD2 General] eskasi:
If you must do the tap tap thing... Touchpal 4.0.... however, I find that Swype is the best and really really fast.... it's almost like magic...

Yes... turn off T9....
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Then DIE or use the forum SEARCH!

T9 is supposed to learn your "style", you can't expect it to correct everything right without you teaching it first.
[HD2 General] unque1:
Dont run just yet

You shouldnt need to change ur keyboard... i tried Swipe and i think its really good but still can use the HTC at top speed with T9 and correction on

Things to try first

1.Recalibrate

2.Install 3.3 Cab from this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=604831

3 if you dont want to reduce sensitivity just add a screen protector takes away about 3-5% of sensitiveness

Thats all I have done and i dont dread sending texts anymore

Hope this helps
[HD2 General] pharao:
Your heart warming reply was so (not) helpful that it makes me appreciate the other responses which contain actual hints - rather than mindless insults - that much more.

Thanks once more (for nothing)

And by the way, I specifically stated that I did not want *anything* to be auto corrected - as I can correct myself a lot faster if I don't have to correct the keyboard first all the time.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Sorry, but there are countless threads about the keyboard. If you're not able to search before you open another one, then it's your fault if you get resposes like this.

Same for your stupid thread title. Make a proper thread title, use the search and you won't get such responses.

And if you disable T9 and autocorrection, then it won't correct you. If you're still not able to type, then it's your fault. It doesn't exchange letters just for fun. It's you pressing the wrong keys.
[HD2 General] ajaydalmeida:
This is just a moronic design!!!!

How the f$#! can I get that plain old & boring Windows Mobile keyboard to work on that thing?![/QUOTE]

Try the Swype keyboard!
[HD2 General] ftr2k8:
See that T9 switch at the left of the keyboard? Press it. Problem gone.
[HD2 General] adell_:
I recommend to use Swype.
[HD2 General] superplayboy:
die and prove it:)
[HD2 General] Archer:
Way to go making friends on the forum superplayboy.
[HD2 General] jbh99blue:
I totally agree with this. Whilst I don't hate the original keyboard I did find it a touch fiddly. Swype is fantastic IMO' a great idea and so easy to use.
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
I can sympathise with the frustrations here. I like using auto correct and am very familiar with all of HTCs onscreen keyboards, along with those of the omnia i8000, Galaxy and iPhone and I must say that although the HD2 keyboard isn't the WORST, it can be most frustrating, particularly when you need to type out a quick text. most of my problems stem from what seems to be poor prediction algorithms. let me say that I am no Apple fanboy, but this keyboard has a long way to go to be as excellent as that of the iPhone: often on here if I get ONE letter wrong at the start of the word it will be incapable of understanding what I'm trying to type, whereas if I get a letter wrong somewhere in the middle it'll be fine. another problem I have is that sometimes when sending an sms the cursor will magically jump to the top of the text and I will unwittingly start typing over the start of my initial sentence. Also if I go to delete a number of letters often the keyboard will have a fit and start throwing letters and paragraphs everywhere. I accept that this is probably my finger not being 100 percent accurate but surely it is also a sign that the keyboard is just TOO SENSITIVE, even with the patch installed. I never had this problem on the Hero, nor the iPhone - both of which have vastly smaller screens.

lastly i'd like that t9 button moved as its just TOO easy to catch without realising.

I accept that some people on here don't seem to have any problem, but perhaps you guys are too forgiving, and sometimes it takes a bit of a whine and moan to get things fixed. Like I said, I'm very familiar with onscreen keyboards and accept that there is a certain learning curve to all of them, but after nearly two months with a HD2 I'm starting to believe that this one is very flawed: given the massive screen real estate of the hd2 I believe there is no excuse for a flawed onscreen keyboard. remember, this is a CRUCIAL part of a device with no hardware input facility, and we should not (in my opinion) have to buy third party software to get an acceptable basic user experience on a handset built as a thoroughly commercial mass-media device.

Thats my two cents.
[HD2 General] MaskedMagi:
I agree with both of those cents fully ;)

Also with regards to the post a few posts up, I presume that the person who spent $1000 on a phone lives in America where a HD2 would be hard to come buy as its not actually out there yet? You can't really blame him for buying it without testing it, especially with all the rave reviews on hundreds of sites, none of which seem to mention the flaws such as the keyboard and terrible (seriously terrible) sms sending issue.
[HD2 General] adell_:
Actually I also think HTC keyboard is not very good. I will not recommend anybody to use it. Anyway different people have different experience.

If you don't like Swype, you can try Finger Keyboard I think it's better than the HTC Keyboard.
[HD2 General] darken_rahl:
I also have problems with my keyboard but I suspect a hardware fault and I am going to return my phone.

When I type it sometimes selects (multiple) letters on the other side of the keyboard or around the key i pressed. It usually comes in "bursts"; sometimes its nearly impossible to typ. Nearly threw the thing out of a window. Its a good phone but my keyboard is ruining the whole thing. Also (thats more rare) it can begin typing on its own, selecting or opening programs, switching tabs without me touching the screen! I waited for a new ROM and tried various tweaks but it doesn't get any better
[HD2 General] freyberry:
@darken_rahl

Have you tried decreasing the sensitivity with BSB Tweaks?

If that doesn't help, then it's a hardware fault.
[HD2 General] SOLRAC13:
HTC HD2 ultrasensitive keybord Bug

@eoni1980 2 cnts

I absolutely agree with you, don't see why we have to go and buy other keyboards, that by the way aren't any better I have try them all, and yes long way to go to catch the Iphone keyboard. Even Nokia 5800 had a better keyboard.

Cross fingers HTC will come up with a nice and fast solution since many new phones are on the way.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
That's what you say. I say the Leo keyboard is a lot better than the iPhone one. And I'm sure plenty of people will agree.

Just because you can't use it properly does not mean it's bad.
[HD2 General] MaskedMagi:
I think to tell someone that its their fault because 'they can't use it properly' is a load of nonsense.

I mean how many ways are there to 'use a keyboard'? Its not like the man is trying to use his ears to type while hanging upside down!

The keyboard is not perfect, but there are probably variations on different devices which is why some people feel its better than others.
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
What exactly do you mean by 'can't use it properly'?

I don't recall the cursor on my Hero, iPhone or Omnia leaping randomly up the screen,or completely misinterpreting keypresses to an unacceptable degree. I also dont recall having to install a freakin third party hack to try and facilitate a problem that apparently doesn't exist. if I'm simply stupid and don't know how to use this keyboard then I take comfort in the fact that I am one of many stupid people who can get used to every keyboard I've used but this one.
[HD2 General] MaskedMagi:
Just to add, even with the keyboard sensitivty tweak the delete key still goes insane everyonce in a while and before I know it ive got a crap load of random characters all over the screen...
[HD2 General] sunking101:
+1

The keyboard is a joke.
[HD2 General] meanvulcan:
I find this disheartening. Freyberry's comments notwithstanding (I generally don't appreciate self-righteous pricks), it's sad that the keyboard on this device is anything but perfect. I have been (and still am) looking forward to Telstra's release of HD2 so I can buy one to use with AT&T's 3G network in the US, and one of the most important things for me was the belief that a larger-than-iPhone screen with a good on-screen keyboard would make the lack of a hardware keyboard on this device a non-issue. All of a sudden the Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 is looking more appealing. I might still try the HD2 with tweaks, swype, and the like, but this thread has put a seed of doubt in my mind, that's for sure. I'll keep reading... good luck to those trying.
[HD2 General] Eoinoc:
I too feel it's a pity the screen isn't perfect. But after I installed the cab mentioned earlier along with swype I'm now happier typing on this phone over any I previously had. And that includes my beloved E70 with full qwerty keyboard.
[HD2 General] :
I don't think this is a keyboard problem, I get this problem when using the virtual pad in Morphgear too. I think it's more the way WM handles the capacitive screen.

Also, have you tried the sensitivity cab? It really makes the keyboard a hell of a lot easier to use. I haven't had any ghost characters since installing it.
[HD2 General] Spl4tt:
why does nobody mention fingerkeyboard 2.1?

i love that keyboard on the big screen of the hd2, its just amazing

maybe u should try this?

and i agree, htc keyboard is really.. ****
[HD2 General] eaglesteve:
Thanks for this info, Leoni.

As usual, I can always rely on your posts, and I know you have tried just about everything out there and you know what you're talking about and are never afraid to call a spade a spade.;).

Do you know if my favourite keyboard (Tengo, in case you've forgotten) still works on this device?
[HD2 General] Prom1se:
i see a few comments of swype, are you all using the English dict or what?

Because im Dutch and i wanted to have a Dutch dict, its bugging me awhile and sometimes it gets me frustrated.

Somebody any help here? and i already tried to import orther words by selecting etc, but sometimes its wont save it.

Already looked at the topic from swype on xda and on other forums, but i cant get the file's open and convert them to ascii from hex..

Help?

Already thanks..
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
Yes I've used the sensitivity patch and it does help prevent random letters appearing, however it does have the added disadvantage of causing MISSED keypresses, which is obviously not as bad but is still undesirable. This also doesn't prevent the cursor moving to the top of the sms input screen at the slightest misplacement of a finger, nor the delete key spaz-attack problem which occurs when you try and hold down the delete button in an environment which does not allow 100% steadiness of the finger.

Sat as i am in my room, lying down and using only my index finger I am able to quite happily tap out this thread reply, however the problem is when you need to send a text FAST, or when you are not in a perfect environment.

With my iPhone - and to a comparable extent, my Hero - i could be stood on a bus, rocking about with bags of food under my arm and still quite happily knock up a quick message; with the HD2 i wouldn't even bother trying as I'd inevitably end up hurling it through the window in frustration. there is just NO WAY to dash out a quick text on this phone in anything but a perfect environment, and as spontaneous and continuous text addict this makes me very frustrated. Despite my seemingly angry criticism of the keyboard I do really like this device, i just wish HTC would look again at developing a better keyboard so we can ALL enjoy a better user experience, in ALL conditions without having to endure the flaws or move to third-party solutions. if they just make the keyboard as good as that of the Hero I'll be elated.
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
Hi Eaglesteve, haven't seen you about since the Athena forums. Good to see you again.

I haven't tried Tengo but i'll certainly take a look at it.
[HD2 General] Ruudfood:
I have sympathy for those who are experiencing problems with their keyboards but I have to say that it is not a problem for me. I'd heard about the sensitive keyboard even before I'd seen the device and when I went into a Vodafone store to test it I was happy that the keyboard worked quickly and without any problems.

I can also say that this is true of the one I got so I can assure you that this is either misuse (although I don't know how anyone could possibly "misuse" a keyboard - sausage fingers perhaps?) or something in the ROM (I'm on 1.48 which I flashed the minute I got the phone).

My advice would actually be to get it replaced.
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
No offence but that is a bit of a daft suggestion: I bought a HD2 upon launch. I subsequently sold it but I presently have both a VERY new HD2 and a prototype PRO.THREE. ALL of these devices have the same touchscreen issue, so either I've just been stupendously unlucky or I'm just a bit more fussy with my expectations of a £500 phone. Either way I am a phone obsessive and have used a huge number of devices and the HD2 is ONE of the most frustrating to use so far in terms of text entry. Certainly the only recent device that comes to mind as being worse in recent months is the Samsung Galaxy, but that wasn't a screen sensitivity flaw but a problem with Samsung's dreadfully ill-conceived custom Android keyboard. It was easily fixed by installing the .APK for the extracted hero keyboard. Unfortunately it seems that this might be more a problem with HTC's capacitive touchscreen drivers than with the keyboard itself. As most people will know Windows Mobile does not support capacitive screens natively and for them to work a driver is obviously patched in by HTC. It is this driver I believe that is causing most of our issues.
[HD2 General] Prom1se:
Anybody idea's?
[HD2 General] hilmir:
on HTC keyboard, i need to press on a button for around 3 seconds for the number to appear (ex: i press Q button for 3 seconds to get number 1). how can i reduce this time?
[HD2 General] lx1cw:
I am 4 times faster (sic) with my htc magician using stylus and Buchstabenerkenner (in englisch: letterrecognizer?) than with the htc leo using fingers,Telefontastaur (in english: telefon keybord) and XT9.

I am not going to accept that.
[HD2 General] creed:
I agree Swype is amazing! I can almost Swype as fast as I can type on a conventional desktop keyboard. It really is that good!
[HD2 General] Prom1se:
Dude if you swype as fast, witch dict do you got the same as your normal language? if not so how did you manage to get all the words in the dict??

if so, do you got any ideas?
[HD2 General] pharao:
Just to get back to the original topic responders.

There were some useful replies, but others were just plain mean.

One thing that amazes me is that NO ONE mentioned the fingerkeyboard that is an XDA development to begin with (and Donationware at that).

I mean its done by XDA folks and thus should be the standard recommendation for anyone in my predicament.

Specially since it looks sooooo cool and works soooooooooo well.

Indeed it is far superior to ANY commercial solution I've tried (and I tried out many).

It even allows for multinational keyboard layout switching (genius design that) and of course it has the cursor keys.

Use it in landscape mode with that idiotic vibrator switched off (just use the click sound instead) and its almost as good as a hardware keyboard!
[HD2 General] Prom1se:
link? ill test it to
[HD2 General] Towserspvm2000:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=501122

It's the only one I use on my Diamond
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Well, I told youto use the forum search feature... there have been numerous threads about the keyboard and Fingerkeyboard has been recommended countless times...

You could easily have found it. Obviously my answer WAS helpful and I was right to tell you to use the search instead of opening one more thread for a topic that has been there many times. You must understand that the users here don't want to give the same answers hundreds of times, just because some are too lazy to search.

And you still haven't changed your stupid thread title. Sorry, but with a title like that and a question that has been asked a hundred times before, you can not expect a different answer, and obviously, I was right.
[HD2 General] zelduy:
is there anyway I can disable T9 completely? coz it's easily pressed on and switch me back to T9...
[HD2 General] rexboy:
Everyone has different opinions which is to be expected, for me i actually dont mind the keyboard, after a few hours i found it reasonably qiuck. I love T9 once you get used to it, i can understand the original poster. I felt it was correcting me mid sentence all the time but when i persisted and kept typing it would generally predict or complete the word i was typing.

For me i prefer Touchpal 4.0 (3.5 not compatible), its quite fast and with a skin, it looks alomst like the standard HTC HD2 one, even colour etc.

Havent tried swype, will have to give that a go.
[HD2 General] pharao:
Your comment after telling me to just "go and die" if my keyboard is killing me was:

You were NOT HELPFUL AT ALL IN THIS as people like you do not intend to be helpful, just scornful.

Google and my persistent searches there be all the thanks here.

AND STOP PRETENDING TO HELP PEOPLE BY JUST POINTING THEM TO THE FORUM SEARCH FUNCTION!

There are 10000+ postings on XDA and the search functionality of this forum is way to limited, as is the time of busy people like me who can't spend all day trying to hunt down info, to allow for any quick turnaround here.

Certifiable a*holes like you (excuse my french, but I really had it with this stuff) are about as helpful to a guy in distress like the man who tells the desperate traveller at the train station to stop bugging everyone with questions about where the trains are departing and go look at the billboard instead. If the guy would have been able to utilize the billboard for his (desperate) search, he wouldn't be wasting his last few minutes before missing his connection asking fellow travelers about his train.

Either you don't know the answer or you just don't care to help.

That's your biz either way, BUT STOP TELLING PEOPLE TO JUST USE "SEARCH", because that is just telling them

"you're sh*t out'a'luck and on your own"

Now go and contemplate your own stupidity! :mad::mad::mad:

PS: And its called "XT9 " and its learning abilities aren't worth crap (just like your help skills).
[HD2 General] Jammie_1989:
Haha legend
[HD2 General] pharao:
In my opinion the fingerkeyboard2 is so superior on the HD2 that it should be part of any custom ROM cooked around here.

I'd ask for HTC to adapt it as well, but based on the quality of their castrated GUI designs, I doubt that they pay any attention to such user requests anyway.
[HD2 General] Spike15:
FingerKeyboard users, how do I turn off the stupid input mode selector?

You know, the upward-facing triangle next to the icon on the bottom that pops up the onscreen keyboard?

When I'm going to hit spacebar (landscape) or an arrow key (portrait), I always wind up somehow triggering this button (which is under the FingerKeyboard) and getting a massive menu.

It's REALLY irritating...