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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] finsmaniac02:
I installed this cab and it does infact fix the facebook album feature. That is a pretty cool feature really, and your rom is the only one that I have gotten it to work in. Thanks!

Now... onto the weird stuff.

So... I noticed that in the dialer, there is often times a scrollbar on the right. So I installed this cab that is supposed to remove it, BUT I was stupid and didn't check which dialer came with this rom and I think the cab was for Tachi Dialer. So by installing that cab, I lost my dialer and therefore much functionality in Sense 2.5

So I installed Pyrorob's VGA dialer for TF3D 2.5 (which does work, but the onscreen slider and end/send buttons are cut off).

I also installed the Dusk theme transparent manila 2.5 slider.

I give this background because of one major thing... Manila/Sense 2.5 now crashes and resets a LOT. I THINK this is because of the facebook sdk but I am not sure, so I thought I would give the background as to what I changed before I started having these crashes.

Also, it seems as if for some reason I cannot select a LOT of the ringtones, they say they are corrupt or unavailable (seemingly the "alarm-****) tones work but not the other ones. But most of those ARE available for other noises like received SMS, etc. Also.. I have some ringtones on my storage card that won't work either (so I don't think that it is a problem just with the ringtone files)

Well thats the end of my story haha...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Which ROM build are you using with Sense 2.5? The 23518? Fuze or TP build? I'll flash it & check it out. I hadn't noticed that the ring tones weren't working.

I don't have a scrollbar when I use the dialer, so I'm curious to see what's going on with it.

@all

The 21889 Sense 2.5 builds are up, and I'm posting 21889 builds of the Sense 2.1 ROMs as well. I've updated the Sense 2.1 builds to include WorldCard in the Office folder, and the Touch Options CP applet.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] finsmaniac02:
I am using the sense 2.5 fuze 23518. should have said, sorry
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rmanaka:
Great ROM, thank you!

Captn,

Using the 23518 Sense 2.1 build with spb Mobile Shell 3.5.3 as my "everyday" shell+ROM. Working just great, but I have a couple of questions...

Are you cooking AMeBa 0.6beta? I updated and it's working fine (disabled AMeBa position fix) so was wondering if I needed to do the update (can't tell from Remove Programs)? (too lazy to dig through registry :o)

I like the new keyboard and it looks T9ish but I don't see a way to enable word completion or number of suggested words. Input options button for keyboard doesnt seem to do anything. Thoughts or am I blind?

Thx again!

ps Sense 2.1 great implementation and works very smoothly with my installed progs...just for everyday use I still prefer the spb 3D mail viewer as I can delete, mark as read, reply and forward from the same view...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] steventeu:
hi..i wanna ask that cap rom dont have live msn cook inside?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stoobie-doo:
Quick question. Do the Fuze builds have the AT&T proxies included or excluded? I am running an unlocked Fuze on a different network and want to know what steps I would need to take to make sure data services work before flashing.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] manyun:
hi capt, can u share tfdetacher cab ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] OK Dog:
You can get newest version from market place fast and easy.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] SemperFIGOD:
Do you have Wifi Sharing on this set up if not is there a download for it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] superpc:
Is it just me or HTCAlbum doesn't seem to rotate correctly? My pictures were viewed as lanscape all the time...

Other than that everything works great and good speed too, thanks for it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] finsmaniac02:
Sorry to quote myself, just thought it would catch peoples' eyes better as a new post.

UPDATE: I did a hard reset and installed the facebook SDK first thing. left everything else pretty much alone. All ringtones work. I do not see any scroll bars on the dialer (don't know what caused that, but I have NOT installed "incall screen tweak" app that I always install, maybe this caused the scroll bars?). Manila has not crashed and reset on me.

I have had the screen do the "digital snow" like thing (cannot take pic, I use my phone as a cam lol) and freeze device needing a soft reset once. This was WITHOUT the manila locker enabled (I previously suspected maybe this was the cause)

Besides that snow issue, everything is going MUCH better. I think I caused most of my own problems by screwing up the dialer and installing the facebook sdk after I had already synced all of my contacts with the old sdk

p.s. - sense 2.5 23518 2/10 (WITH reg edit that was posted)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] finsmaniac02:
I second this, never actually viewed a pic until I read this (always just viewed the album).

I think this album isn't actually ported to VGA yet? It seems to reposition a pic lower (or to the right if viewing landscape) to where the center of the pic should be for WVGA. Also, the menus go too low. Its a shame... this version of album is needed for the facebook pics i think... but I can't seem to properly view pictures
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] alphaacres:
after installing there's a color start icon that comes and goes how can I get it to stay colored?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
I am actually cooking in (by CAB) 0.5 Beta. It should show up in the Remove Programs list. 0.6 wasn't working right for me (I was getting the reverse-colored, non-responsive bottom bar), so I just stuck with 0.5, which worked great. If you can verify that 0.6 is working fine (minus the position fix, of course), I can use that version instead, and include the Settings app as well.

The new keyboard is an MS (stock) keyboard. If you want the T9 settings, you have to use the HTC keyboard, i.e. "Touch Input".

See response below (which I also mention in the first post):

The AT&T proxies are included in the Fuze version. In the "Tools" folder, there's a folder for "Proxy Manager" that has the Enable/Disable Proxy cabs. I don't pre-configure any of the Network settings though; I let Connection Setup do that on startup, so data should work fine, as long as it finds your Carrier settings.

Yes, of course. I'll attach to this post.

Wifi Sharing is included in the Sense 2.5 versions. I actually didn't include it in the Sense 2.1 versions because I hadn't dumped the Leo ROM it came from yet. And it should've been in the 21889 Sense 2.1 versions, but I forgot to include it (though the item may actually be in the Comm Manager, even though I forgot the package entirely). I don't have it as an add-on, but I should definitely re-cook all of the Sense 2.1 versions to include it, now that I have it. If you really don't want to re-flash, I can make an add-on CAB for it.

Yes, the Album 3.2 version that's included in the Sense 2.5 ROM has some issues. The picture preview falls into the right edge of the screen, because the Album.exe is hardcoded for WVGA. Unfortunately, that's the Album version that works best with Sense 2.5, so I've learned to live with it. Also, in both Album versions, you can only view pictures in Landscape mode. That's something HTC apparently changed a while ago (although I have no idea why). That last version I've seen that actually allows you to rotate the device and changes the direction of swiping to go through the pictures was the 1912 version from the Topaz (which was made for WM 6.1).

I'm not sure what you mean when you say the menus go too low? You should be able to see all the Menu options, and if there are more than a page work, scrolling should work fine. Can you give me a screenshot of what you're seeing?

@all

Once I can get the ROMs working solidly, I'm going to work on making more customizations (adding some "pretty"). However, all such "customizations" will be installed via CAB, and will thus be uninstallable. I understand the desire to keep a ROM clean-looking, as well as keeping all the junk out, so any customizations I do decide on will be minimal and "tasteful" :).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] finsmaniac02:
Its just under "options" in the album, it shows all the options, but now "ok" button (and windows task bar is removed) ... can scroll down but still nothing. No biggie tho, don't think I'd want to change anything. No screenie because I don't have a screenshot app loaded (I think most people like "shake and save"?) which leads to my next question (or statement?):

Could you cook in a few apps like: a task manager that lets you kill processes (I use dotfred's, but the windows task manager is fine to be used on a long press of start key), a regeditor (preferrably whichever is used in NRG, it lets you import reg files (I tried PHM and Schaps and neither do)), total commander, shake and save, diamond tweak (which I only use to set to disconnect data connection at 1 minute, diable join stereo for bluetooth, and enable "x" to close photo album; maybe just cook those tweeks in?)!?!?

I understand keeping it relatively stock-like, and I of course install more apps than what I listed... but I think the ones listed would be considered as important to many people, while still maintaining a stock-ish rom?

I def look forward to your own personal touches (either cooked in or as a cab) :D and maybe these sort of things would be in that anyways

p.s. - the "digital snow" screen and freeze has only happened the past couple times on an unattended bootup (as in I reset device, but then left unattended and it sat around for a bit... went to power screen on and BAM). Hope maybe we can narrow this down... also hope my phone isn't dying haha
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
I see what you mean. That's either something I missed in porting, or something I can't change. I'll look into it, and if I can fix it, I will. On a related side note, if you rotate the phone to Landscape orientation, you can press "OK" or "Cancel" to get out of that screen. The hardware "Back" button will also work.

I can include Total Commander, as it's part of my UC anyway, and I find it useful. I don't include a task manager/reg editor because I use SKTools, which does both of those things, and more, however it's not free. dotfred's Task Manager includes a Registry Editor that allows you to import reg files - I'm pretty sure that's what NRG includes in his ROMs. I've actually never used shake and save before, because I use MyMobiler to take all of my screenshots from the PC (SKTools also does screenshots, by the way).

As far as Diamond Tweak, I stopped installing it in my UC because I cooked in all of the tweaks I was setting with it (including that "X" to close Album one - I'll have to make sure I didn't lose that one), but the others are a matter of personal preference. I guess I can include that too, if a lot of people have to install it to change things that they prefer different from my defaults.

P.S. I just checked, and it does look like I forgot the Album tweak. Well, that'll be one less thing you have to tweak.

I don't mind getting people's opinion on those sort of apps - How does everyone feel about including those apps in the ROM? Would you use them, or do you just uninstall half the stuff I include in the ROM already?

I haven't seen this yet, but I'll keep my eye out for it. It's difficult for me to diagnose without seeing the behavior myself.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dalek_Caan:
Well since you asked I will throw my two cents in.

It is just my opinion but I happen to prefer the ROM as you have it now. What I like about it is that it is a nice and clean build and I just install what apps I prefer through UC. It is very easy to have my phone setup the way I like it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Nickyschelfaut:
hey man, this is the best rom i have seen since i am busy with the touch pro,

but i can't use it because i can't find where to disable t9. can you please help me?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Which ROM are you using? (No matter which ROM you're using, you should be able to use the hardware keyboard *FN+SPACE* to disable T9 when you're in an app that has the SIP icon in the bottom middle of the screen)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Nickyschelfaut:
the 23518, but i am a bit new here, so i was looking in the options menu. under input. Well thanks again!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] finsmaniac02:
guess I spoke too soon... I do have a scroll bar in the dialer when I am in a call. The answer and end buttons are slightly below the windows taskbar. Is this a known problem with this dialer?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Yeah, I see that. I believe it is (a known problem). Just like the buttons being partially cut off. I asked pyrorob about it, and apparently he doesn't have the issues, so that's why it's still like that. I'll see if I can fix it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] superpc:
Is there anyway to downgrade the Album? I don't need the extra features. Apparently the one in yozgatg rom works very well with Sense 2.5.

I'd really like to use a 6.5 rom, so it will be really great if the album can be downgraded by a cab or something.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] superpc:
Hmm just found that the old Album 3.0 cab does work. Disable manila(and kill AlbumSearcher.exe if u already opened the pictures tab once or so) and install it. Works flawlessly, just that u don't get the social networking features.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] finsmaniac02:
I am sure the Capt is on top of this for his next release... but there was a post that is supposed to fix an issue I have had on this rom here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5356997&postcount=1582

There are screenshots describing the issue which is caused by the locker, and a fix (I haven't had the prob since using the fix, but had it a few times before) at the link. Enjoy
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] OK Dog:
I would like is Total Commander to be included. I use it to move stuff around in the start menu that I install.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Nickyschelfaut:
i don't know if it's an important problem but i can't get gsm only mode fixed.

if i put the change to gsm mode button in the comm manager, there's happening nothing. with an other rom it's no problem.

p.s can you enable and disable honeycom?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hlm818:
Hi Captain,

After much searching for a fairly clean 21xxx ROM, it seems you may have made it! I do have a couple questions. Does your 21889 build include titanium? I do not like manila and never use it. Would you consider cooking a version of your ROM (everything the same for 21889) with titanium only and NO manila? If not, I completely understand since it is time consuming, but I thought I'd ask since it looks like your ROM is what I am looking for.

On the matter of including programs in your ROM, I think total commander and a reg edit program would be nice to include, but other than that, I love the fact I can customize and include what programs I want and not have unecessary (for me) programs on my phone that can't be unistalled.

Thanks a million,

hlm818
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Yup. Already got that :).

Anyone else want Total Commander included in the ROM? In my ROM, I keep it on the main Start Menu page, because I use it quite a bit.

Someone else (madnish) said something about this as well. There's already a 3G toggle in Comm Manager. Are you saying that one doesn't work? Have you tried changing the settings under Advnaced Network? If you're in an area that doesn't use 3G (like India, for example), I think part of the problem is that your Model ID is not Touch Pro T7272, it's actually T7276. Changing that might fix your issues.

The Honeycomb is how the 6.5 Start menu is laid out. I'm thinking you're asking for the highlight not to be Honeycomb, maybe? Try installing this cab from showaco: StartMenu.cab. That should give you the expanded start menu view without the honeycomb.

Anyone else have interest in a Titanium only, ultra-lite/clean ROM? That shouldn't be TOO much trouble to do.

@all

Are there any programs/tweaks that I'm currently including that you would prefer not to be included?

Oh yeah, and I just finished updating the 23518 Sense 2.1 Fuze ROM. Here's what was updated (that I can remember):

Added kimi_sae_ireba's new ported Calendar tab from newest Sense 2.1 version.

Added back AT&T default ringtones (in case someone actually likes them) for a more "stock" feel.

Updated Opera so that YouTube web links now play in HTC YouTube player.

Added WiFi Internet Sharing (under Tools folder) and in Comm Manager (scroll down for toggle).

If I remember anything else I did, I'll note it. I'm running it now, and it might be my best work yet :p. I'll be updating the TP & 21889 versions with those updates shortly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hlm818:
Is HTC volume control included in the ROM? I believe it doesn't work on newer manila builds, but it does work in the 21xxx titanium builds. That would be nice to include.

This may be a stupid question, but do your roms include things like

SIM Manager

Task Manager (to kill things)

Advanced Config

Disable Data

In Call Recording

Voice Recording

Window Media Player

Tasks/calendar/notes

Facebook (Microsoft version)

Internet Sharing

Wifi Router

Pocket RAR

Standard settings options

I've been so used to energy ROMs and what is in them, I don't really know what is standard in a rom anymore. I have no problem installing these myself if I can find cabs, but I was just wondering.

Also, may I ask what these are for?

HTC Framework (thanks to programatix)

LockScreenAppLauncher (thanks to conflipper & indagroove)

AMeBa 0.5 beta (thanks to xtep)

AutoA2DP (thanks to xiaojin1985 & supware for the CAB)

Interceptor R4 (thanks to programatix)

Aren't there a lot of issues with this and the fuze? Can I install Swype over this?

EzInput 2.1 (thanks to mrhayami & programatix)

This may be a stupid request, but for games I like Teeter, but I also have an addiction to Bubble Breaker and Kevtris. If they are not included, do you know where I can get cabs?

Thank you so much for considering a titanium only ROM and answering my million questions
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dalek_Caan:
Captain - Just a quick question to make sure I am not missing anything in my searches. The EZ input you cook in works properly in only full QWERTY correct? The compact or phone pad outputs only numbers, i have looked but not seen a solution available for this yet.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Nickyschelfaut:
yes i meant the toggle mode in the comm manager

i am living in the Netherlands, so its the t2772,

if i put the toggle he is trying to make gsm but i lose connection. and i can't change it back because te toggle keeps stay on :S.

maybe it's because my network is knp 3g and i first need to set it to knp default i am searching ...

but the inquise rom doesn't have anny problems with this

but i like your rom, and i like honeycomb so because of this i am not going to change.

conclusion:

if i put the toggle, i must reset the phone because otherwise i have no connection

i tried to toggle 3g to off and than do the connection set up but it doesn't work

in advanced network settings i can disable hsdpa... so that is like disabling 3g?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Only the 218XX builds include HTC Volume Control, because, yes, it doesn't work right with the 6.5.x builds (it works fine with Manila).

Yes. Under Tools.

218XX build include the HTC Task Manager, the 6.5.x builds launch the MS Task Manager on long press of the Start button.

No. I pre-tweak my ROM, so I don't need this, and thus do not include it. This is easily installable via CAB.

This can be tweaked using a program like Advanced Config, or Diamond Tweak.

This requires a compatible Dialer. However, there should be an option to "Record" using the Notes app when in-call.

I don't use this, so I don't include it. If there's a great demand for it, I can add it.

This is standard in every WM ROM. Mine is under the "Multimedia" folder.

Standard MS apps. Under "Accessories" (the Outlook-looking folder).

I don't use this - the Manila Facebook integration is plenty for me. This is easily installable via CAB.

This can be selected via USB to PC (pop-up, or settings applet), and the app can be launched by the shortcut in the "Internet & Messaging" folder.

Yes. Shortcut under "Tools" folder, and toggle in Comm Manager (in Sense 2.5 & newest Sense 2.1 builds)

no. This is easily installable by CAB.

Not sure which options you mean.

Most of the supporting Manila graphics.

The HTC Lockscreen. Works correctly wth the HTC Dialers.

For closing programs via the "X" button. My ROM is set to close apps on Long press of the X button. It can be set differently.

This automatically toggles A2DP when pairing a stereo Bluetooth device.

This is for the position fix for Manila & COmm Manager in the 6.5.x builds.

It seems to work okay for me. Sometime XT9 doesn't want to disable, but if you disable it via the hardware keyboard, it usually stays disabled.

Teeter is included. MS stopped including Bubble Breaker in the new ROMs for some reason. I can find you a link to a Bubble Breaker CAB. EDIT: HERE. I'll probably include it in the next round of ROMs. KevTris I don't know about.

It comes with the territory, I guess. "With great power comes great responsibility."

Actually, you just reminded me about something I forgot to cook in - SIP Menu Workaround (thanks to programatix). Install that CAB, and it'll place a shortcut under the "Tools" folder that'll launch the SIP Menu and allow you to choose any of the EzInput layouts :). I'll cook this into the next round of ROMs. I also have to update that EzInput credit on the first page, as I'm using rsw686's Leo EzInput now.

Have you tried going into Advanced Network and changing it there?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dalek_Caan:
Not to step on Cap's toes answering you question for him, but just thought I could help with a couple answers.

SIM Manager, Task Manager, Windows Media, Internet sharing, Tasks/calendar/notes, and setting are all included. Items like Advanced Config., Facebook, and others easily added via Cab.

HTC Framework - I beleive is the basic backbone for the HTC items

AMeBa 0.5 beta - fixes for 23XXX builds with [X] button on bottom

AutoA2DP - wireless stereo bluetooth fix

Interceptor R4 -Manila position fix

At least I think I got those right.

Anything i missed and for more info I am sure Cap and others can help or of course just search for them.

As for the games Teeter is there and all the rest are easily found here on XDA.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dalek_Caan:
Thanks for the reply Cap. I have used that SIP menu before, the problem I have is when I switch to another layout other than full QWERTY it only types numbers and I can't get it to enter letters. I am about to install your latest update and will give it a try again.