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[Nexus One General] staulkor:
I have never once got a dropped call with tmobile. Bunch of friends have jesus phones (iphones) and always get terrible reception, dropped calls, sudden loss of signal, etc. My 3G is also faster then every friend's iphone when doing speed tests side by side. Throw in tmobile's excellent customer service, and you have an amazing cell company. I haven't had any issues with them whatsoever. I just called them yesterday morning and asked for an unlock code for my G1 and with no questions asked, they took my IMEI and email and said it would take 24 hours to get the code from the manufacturer. I got the code in my email a few hours ago. Seriously, people dont give tmobile enough credit. They call them the smallest of the big three, sure, but the smallest have to do a lot more than Verizon and AT&T to win over customers.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
considering this phone? It's a must have for many!
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Wanted to add this...

Since so many people are complaining about the unsubsidized price and crying about it being so much, I’ve crunched the numbers to calculate what the “real price” of the phone is when you buy it for $180 and sign a contract for a higher monthly payment. Note that the service you’re paying for is identical… you’re just paying more per month if you buy the phone subsidized.

Based on that information, using the prices of the 500 minute plans that T-mo offers, the “real price” of the phone when you pay $180 upfront is $660! How'd I come to this number? By subsidizing the phone, you agree to pay an extra $20 per month for the plan. That equals $480. $480+180=$660.

If Google was like Apple, they would be charging us over $600 for the unlocked and unsubsidized phone...
[Nexus One General] mattyboy247:
I am definitely fighting the wife over the unlocked price so I can get one. I seem to be winning so I might be getting one.

I have had T-Mobile for since '05, and I have never had any issues. Every year so far, I have gotten a new phone, 3 out of 4 have been full upgrades (supposed to be every 2 years) and the other was a partial. I have had exceptional help from customer service as I have a phone on my plan that resides outside of any T-mobile coverage (its actually funny, the phone runs off ATT towers... on a T-mobile plan... go figure). I have only had 1 dropped call in the last few years that I can think of. I live in Dayton OH, and we just got upgraded to 3g about 3 months ago. I am quite happy with T-Mobile. They are making giant strides to improving their network.

Edit: On a side note, I have used T-mobile extensively in Georgia(3 years), Texas(6 months) and now Ohio (6 months) and the network has been great in each of the locations. Also, having driven up and down the east coast at least 4 or 5 times from Vermont to Florida, I can say that the T-Mobiles network has been great, at least near the major highways. Heck it even worked great when I was in Alaska for a month.
[Nexus One General] Maedhros:
Can I ask, why would someoen get this over the HTC variant?

Makes no sense considering the HTC Varient would have greater support and would have sense,
[Nexus One General] staulkor:
The HTC variant probably wont be a "google experience" device...but who knows.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Personally, I'd rather have updates as soon as they come out, not after HTC updates SenseUI to work with updated Android releases.
[Nexus One General] mattyboy247:
The only reason that I am considering getting this phone over waiting for the Bravo is this forum. I have faith that the devs here can hook up a rom that will do pretty much anything on the Nexus that the Bravo or Passion can do. I could be wrong, and if I am let me know! I don't want to buy a phone that won't live up to standards that are 3 months down the road.
[Nexus One General] kazekage011:
i know i am i have a touch pro 2 with tmobile i actually love the keyboard & everything but tmobiles version of the phone is the ugliest of the 4 companies & 2 of my friends have the sprint version which looks & is shaped much better & they keep rubbing it in my face (even though i got mines months b4 them) plus im bored of windows mobile so good buy tp2 hello nexus!!!!
[Nexus One General] david1171:
Screw sense ui. i want stock android on a phone with 512mb RAM and a 1ghz processor. sign me up for the list of people getting this phone as soon as it is available.
[Nexus One General] mattyboy247:
This is what I want too. I don't want some junked up UI being pushed on me. Thats one big reason I can't even get myself to consider the SE X10. I don't want a UI. I want vanilla Android that I can alter as I want.

If I want a UI, flashing a ROM works for me.
[Nexus One General] amniberlin:
Does anyone know, if they ship it to Europe?

If they do, I will buy it asap :D
[Nexus One General] ohgood:
+1

i'll buy a nexus, after a couple of months worth of other people using it and posting it's cons/pros.

why ?

the processor, and ram

and

two very major companies are trying to help people understand that BUYING something means you OWN it... as opposed to signing a effing contract with some service provider, for 2x what a device and service is worth. some day, americans will see the light and stop financing so much simple crap. i hope.

:)
[Nexus One General] shata:
Of crouse i am hah! Even made a site for it! pshh n1user.com
[Nexus One General] sthoeft:
I'll get one. Why? I want a native Google Phone and do hope that the softwaresupport would be very good (like the G1 at least) and we'll get all major updates. I don't like Sense anyway.
[Nexus One General] K69:
I'll probably get one because my iPhone sucks (some of the games and stuff are cool, but the overall performance isn't that good) and i don't want a WM-phone again.
[Nexus One General] terminal 7:
yep

yep ill be getting one as soon as it lands in the uk..

i have a hd2 which is similar hardware and that runs like a dream compared to any other htc before it so i rekon an android device of this spec should be a flyer - i cant wait .....

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[Nexus One General] brummiesteven:
I dunno weather to get this or the bravo :(
[Nexus One General] stogchris81:
im in the same boat. the nexus one i can have on the 5th. but the bravo is a sharp black and it has 720p video recording. however...the bravo has sense ui. im not the biggest fan of sense ui. i would prefer stock android 2.1.????
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
I'm sure once the Bravo is rooted, some dev will release a non-SenseUI ROM.
[Nexus One General] stogchris81:
oh, no doubt. and i have no doubt that the reason that i am sour on sense is because my G1 hardware doesnt do it justice and the specs on the Bravo can more than handle it.
[Nexus One General] esincho:
I want a Bravo 2, but I dont wanna wait. I'm gettin the Nexus day 1
[Nexus One General] jeezus:
Ordering as soon as able, just hoping I can get it coming during january.

So sick and tired of winmo on my HD.
[Nexus One General] icon57:
i will also buy the nexus one on the 5th...so far i havent heard anyone talk about battery life... i hope better than my g1
[Nexus One General] mr_skot:
I've also been on TMO for a few years and have never had an issue.

Currently using a Nokia N900 and I'm wondering about N1's Flash support as well as multi-tasking capability?

Anyone heard?

PS... I'm all for the stock Android ROM. Keep the Sense UI and other carrier branding out of mobile devices....
[Nexus One General] losdrivare:
It's definitly the most intriguing device that I know about right now. I have a Topaz now and would like something faster and with bigger screen, yet not bigger than the Blackstone. Leo is too big, but N1 fits the bill.

I won't be an early adopter though. I'll wait until the dust settles, until it's rooted properly and the community developers has gotten somewhere with this very tempting device and THEN I'll see if there's something more tempting on the horizon or if this is the phone to get. :D
[Nexus One General] brummiesteven:
It's going to come down to 2 things with me:

- IF I can get an upgrade when the N1 hits Europe, I will upgrade to it.

- Otherwise I will wait and upgrade to the HTC Bravo (which IMO is superior) in April/May.
[Nexus One General] Ace42:
I want my HTC Legend or Bravo^ :p
[Nexus One General] twiggy114:
I will be getting this when it comes out. Already putting my Touch Pro2 up for sale in order to pay for the N1
[Nexus One General] apreichner:
I will probably be getting this since I have T-Mobile. Unfortunately, I'll have to wait until like June until I'm eligible for a good upgrade price.
[Nexus One General] ~~Tito~~:
Man, this makes me edgy.

I am in this boat.

- Early upgrade eligibility time(mid contract), but my mom wants to use my upgrade to get a blackberry, so etf and phone price would have to be on me lol.

- My plan, 900 min w/ roll over(I do go to like 1100 min some months, most of the time its like 400 +) = 69.99($)

- Data plan and unlimited texting = 30 dollars

- I have to get the subsidized version lol, since ETF = $175, and the phone $180(?) = $325(?)

So if I can get a job and get a pay check, then I would have to give up my whole pay check lol.

What should I do?
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
You should wait.
[Nexus One General] bwilliams1:
The Wife and I have decided.

We are gonna drop $1060 dollars for this thing on tuesday. gotta love her, lets me get the latest and greatest toys and she has to have them as well! w00t N1.
[Nexus One General] seraph1024:
:) Congrats. Where did you find your wife?
[Nexus One General] Tom Servo:
This thing is mine if the import tax isn't something retarded.
[Nexus One General] K69:
Wow, thats pretty expensive.

I didnt like subsidized phones (respectively the contracts), and i would never pay such a high monthly fee.

I pay 12€ (17$) for 1,1GB data (+ unlimit email), 300 min and 100 sms. Thats enough for me.
[Nexus One General] seraph1024:
You guys don't speak much in Austria? I am curious; what are the typical European mobile phone usage. Here in the States, we want everything unlimited and I myself personally use about 1300 minutes a month. But I run around all day long and don't have a physical phone at my desk or a desk that I can call it my own. Part of the job.
[Nexus One General] illutionz:
Can't say about Europe but based on my experience in Asia, receiving calls are not counted against your allotted minutes and neither does receiving sms :o so technically people there needs half of the minutes/sms in US... I was actually shocked that I need to pay to receive phone calls and text when I moved here years back... :eek:
[Nexus One General] K69:
What, in the usa you "pay" for receiving calls? :eek:

I didnt talk much, so i never use(d) the full 300 mins.
[Nexus One General] illutionz:
Yeah when you receive calls your minute get deducted and receiving sms too... hence the 200 sms plan on iPhone is very stupid because it's around 100 conversation back and forth :P

The minute is fine though because the baseline minutes in here is 450-500 depending on your carrier :) It kind of cancels out at the end
[Nexus One General] K69:
Thats ridiculous.
[Nexus One General] jamesyb0i:
in New Zealand there's 3 carriers and most people use vodafone prepay. $10 a month for 2000 txt's and calls are $2 for 2 hours or 49c a minute (something like that). Hardly anyone ever uses their mobile for calling because texting is the only affordable option
[Nexus One General] brummiesteven:
In the UK we have a very good mobile phone system. Probably because in Europe mobile phones are more popular and there's a larger market then there is in the US (I'm sorry but it's true). EVERYONE here has a mobile and they always want the latest and greatest.

The average plan will give you around 500-800 Minutes and Unlimited Texts. We don't get charged for receiving calls or texts so your 800 minutes only gets effected when you dial out.

There are also sim free deals where you get no phone. These will give you about 500 minutes and unlimited texts for about £15 which is around $24 atm.

Pay as you go or "Prepay" is also popular. For £10 you can get 200 texts, £15 500 texts and £30 unlimited texts and similar deals. The difference is you don't have to commit yourself to paying each month, you also keep the money. So If I was on Prepay and topped up £10 I'd get 200 texts but still have £10 left to spend on calls and extra texts.

Oh.. It's also worth saying that our phones on contract are FREE.

Contracts are either 12 or 18 months but most of them are 18 nowerdays. My G1 was free in February with 800 mins, unlimited texts and internet for £35 a month which is about $55
[Nexus One General] seraph1024:
I need to move to Europe. Time to hit my my contacts back in England and Austria to see if there are any IT jobe openings. :D
[Nexus One General] kameleongt:
i'm considering this as a buffer till the leo comes out here in the U.S which seems to be going to t-mo also. I have att though I have friends who would be willing to get me the phone on and trade me for an iphone as i'm up for an upgrade and so are they. I will probably hold off as this would be my first android phone and i'm not sure i'm ready for one as of right now.
[Nexus One General] mattyboy247:
Some more rumors out today... for those overseas folks...

http://www.androidcentral.com/outside-us-nexus-one-really-gonna-cost-you
[Nexus One General] ganymedus:
it's awful to see how much we'll have to pay for shipping costs.

But then again, don't we all have friends overseas? :rolleyes:

I am considering to buy one, IF it's really as good as all the rumors en previews state. Otherwise I'll probably buy a N900 or iPhone.
[Nexus One General] sennister:
While I would like one I don't see myself spending $530 on an unlocked one. I could get one through a phone upgrade but if it is true that they won't allow it to be joined to an existing plan because it is a family plan then I won't do it.

The reason I have the G1 now is because I can have it on my family plan much cheaper than I could have a iPhone on my own. I do not see myself forking out $80/mo for that phone when I can have a G1 that does the same thing (but slower) for $41.82 after all taxes and fees. It isn't worth doubling what I pay a month.

I am sure someone will question my bill so it breaks down to this (taken from last statement)

$7.99 - Additional Line (we have a total of 5 phones on our plan)

$24.99 - G1 Unlimited Data no texting

$5.99 - Insurance

the remainder is taxes and program fees.

EDIT:

Hmmm I might be better off getting the unlocked one for $530.

530/24 = 22.08/mo + $41 (current bill) = $63.08/mo when factoring in the cost of the phone across the 2 year life with my plan. My work pays me $65/mo to have a smart phone so I will still come out a little ahead. A lot ahead if looking at a $180 for the phone + $80/mo plan + $200 to get out of my current contract. That would work out to $95.83/mo if I did my math right. That would work out to save me $32.75 a month.

The only way this will work though is if I hang onto the phone for 2 years. I haven't had my G1 a year yet and I am looking for a new phone so that isn't looking good.

I would assume that if I went the $530 route I could just pop the SIM out of my G1 and put it in the N1 and be good to go. T-Mobile shouldn't care that I switched phones early as I still have my plan of $41/mo.

So I guess it does work out better for some of us to do the full price.
[Nexus One General] Ryanmo5:
As soon as T Mobile gets it I'm going to take advantage of my upgrade option and grab it :)
[Nexus One General] lennyjaxn:
Here's the annoying part about that though:

"The $180 T-Mobile price is only for individuals that are not currently under contract, or that have never had service with T-Mobile. If you currently have a T-Mobile contract without a data package, the price of the phone becomes $279.99. If you have a contract and have both the voice and Data package, the price of the phone again jumps to a higher price bracket, which is $379.99."

I hate that we're punished for being loyal T-Mobile customers already. And it's really annoying that I have to pay an extra hundred just because I already have a data plan. That makes zero sense. I'm already paying more! Why should I pay even more on top of that? This is not how a carrier should show appreciation to its customers.
[Nexus One General] Ryanmo5:
Yeah tell me about it, I have been with them for 8 years you figure they would reward me and other T Mobile users but guess not. Its still better than 529.99 but 200.00 more for me cause I have a data plan is ridiculous!!!
[Nexus One General] lennyjaxn:
I would have done it for $180, but not $380. And definitely not $530. I'm already on T-Mobile. I've had no problems with T-Mobile. Where I live, T-Mobile's 3G is actually pretty great. I want to stay with them. They should appreciate that and let me have the phone for the same price as someone opening a new account who hasn't built up a good relationship with them yet.
[Nexus One General] karnovaran:
Rather than start a new thread.. I'm wondering if it will be possible to put a Sense ROM on this once HTC upgrades to 2.1? I'm guessing 2.1 will account for larger screen sizes, correct?
[Nexus One General] seraph1024:
That sense ROM upgrade will come sooner than you think from our resident ROM chefs.
[Nexus One General] Diplomat2387:
I would love to get this phone but I don't think a CDMA version is in the works as of yet...
[Nexus One General] karnovaran:
Oh, I have no doubt about that. My real question is will it work properly on Nexus One, considering its screen resolution is larger than any current HTC Sense product. I had read somewhere that 2.x versions of Android would account for the larger screens, but I'm unsure how that might apply to Sense.
[Nexus One General] j.books:
my friends think it would be crazy to pay $530 for the phone, but I'm already on t-mobile so I'm very tempted...

I like my G1 and following the what the devs with ROMs and themes, but it might be worth it to me to pay the money to get the speed upgrade. my G1 performs well most of the time, but there have been times where I really needed it and it let me down with its lag and force closes.
[Nexus One General] slater87:
hello all, long time since i've been on

hello all... long time since i've logged onto this website, but with the N1 coming out, i'll finally be tossin the iphone to the old phone box. i'll be gettin it in the next few weeks, unfortunately i cant afford to get it without the contract so i will be buying it locked into a contract. i'm on att now but when i had tmo i loved it. customer support alone is worth switching back.

just wanted to throw my 2 cents...
[Nexus One General] contractor:
bought mine sim free a little over an hour ago. Can't wait till it gets to me in the UK :)
[Nexus One General] newjaruz:
I have already placed my order. If HTC drops something else that hardware wise is irresistible then I'll just sell my nexus.. if not.. Ill be on here looking for Sense 2.0 roms in no time!
[Nexus One General] The Jones:
How much did it work out costing and did they tell you when it will arrive? Considering the plunge myself....
[Nexus One General] Modernly:
Strongly considering selling my TouchPro2, Fuze and E71x to finance this phone un-subsidized. My $100 a month bill is just too much to stomach with AT&T. Sooo tempted. Argh.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Just ordered unlocked! Free fedex & no taxes to Nevada! :cool:
[Nexus One General] jchap2k:
Ordered mine so I guess I'd consider it!

On another note, (out of curiosity)

Is it possible to just get the Widgets from Sense roms for use with other roms? Like, I really like the HTC contact widget, but cant find a suitable replacement in the Marketplace. I like having a grid of picture contacts.
[Nexus One General] RueTheDay:
I would love to, but......

I bought my G1 back in early April, so still have a little over a year left on contract. Thus no subsidy for me. Also, I have the unlimited loyalty program and it looks like that crappy 500 minute plan is the only one available on the N1, no way would I trade for that. So my only real option is to buy unlocked. Not sure I'm ready to spend $530 yet.
[Nexus One General] BrooklynAvi:
A No-Brainer

I haven't read all the responses yet but this is a no-brainer for me. I purchased my N1 as soon as I was able. I don't spend my money on anything else. I don't care for fancy stuff but I have a big weakness for all things Android related. I had two G1s, a myTouch and now a Nexus One. I had to sell one of my G1s to supplement my myTouch cost and have put the other G1 up for sale to help subsidize the cost of my N1. But like I said, this is my hobby/indulgence. I'll probably (almost definitely) will buy another Android device before the year is up. Hey, it's only January.
[Nexus One General] david1171:
I agree. I don't have anything else that I splurge or really spend money on other then android. Besides, come the end of the year, I can cash in my upgrade on the newest android device :)
[Nexus One General] Mutalemwa:
N1

Got tracking # earlier tonite (10pm EST). Delivery set for 3pm 1/6/2010. Ordered at 2:02PM EST.

One thing i noticed on order site was docks (Car & PC) being included with price ($530). Can anyone confirm this?:D
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
You don't need to post the same question in multiple threads. The answer is NO.
[Nexus One General] ~~Tito~~:
From what I've read, there is no way to drop the 500min plan on the Nexus One? The only way I could get it is subsidized.
[Nexus One General] JoshHart:
From what ive seen there isnt, i dont use very many minutes anyways, maybe 300 max mostly talk through texts but buying it straight up is the best bet for people that talk a lot
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Just an FYI, the 3G in our area on this baby is awesome! ;)
[Nexus One General] ~~Tito~~:
OMG, my mouth is salivating! Better than at&t?:D
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Yup. I believe at this point even all the at&t bashers must be waking up to find TMUS being an even worse carrier than at&t.

If this phone was available for at&t, i would jump on it (full price and all).

But so ... it's either an iphone for me (bleh ... I hate Apple, itunes, etc) or one of at&t's android phones (if they come out SOON!)
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
You should try reading the posts right above yours. T-mo's network is great in cities like Las Vegas (where the guy you quoted lives). Hell, I live in Toledo, Ohio, and I have EXCELLENT 3G coverage in this crappy city. Rather than constantly posting your spammy anti-T-mobile garbage, you should actually TRY the service. If you really live in LA, it'll work great.

For the record, I tried AT&T for almost a month (with an iPhone 3GS). The 3G coverage was good in Toledo, but not any better than T-mobile on the G1. There's no way in hell I'm going to pay $110 a month for service that's exactly the same as what I get with T-mo for $65 (and I prefer Android over iPhone anyway).
[Nexus One General] ~~Tito~~:
Has anyone successfully gotten their plan changed after you bought the phone subsidized?
[Nexus One General] kylez64:
A TMO rep said you can after 120 days but dont take my word on it.
[Nexus One General] ~~Tito~~:
Dude u got the nexus one? :D
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Doesn't everbody in Vegas :p
[Nexus One General] ~~Tito~~:
Haha, hes a close friend, I convinced him to get it. :p

Hopefully I can be next in the list.