yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] lude219:
The winmo OS itself is so massive compare to newborns like Android and iOS, that's why it takes time to get around and even more time to get yourself situated in a comfortable position (even if it means countless tweakings). With every tweak and fix, you're suddenly opening up yourself to a whole different level of usability, way more expansive than the other aforementioned OSes. As a child, you start out with tricycles then graduate to a bicycles and at last, automobiles. Each one of those stages has their conveniences and it takes time to ease into them.

If you think it's so hard to handle the OS (or HTC for that matter), take a look at the themes and applications forum and see the countless of people in there happily using their phone through personal customization and tweakings. You can't tell me that all those additions are easily accessible with other OSes (it's possible, but arduous). What I'm trying to say is that, it's a challenge when face with obstacles, but with the help of XDA, the light at the end of the tunnel is just a few clicks away.

With that said, if you still think winmo is the root of all evil and is too complex for you to even maintain data connection (though that sounds more like a service provider problem than the phone itself), feel free to return it and get whatever phone you want.
[HD2 General] immyl:
ty lude219

i think in hindsight i do agree, winmo is a lot easier to manipulate than other OS's - and even though its not always ideal, you cannot deny how powerful it is with quite a wide compatibility list

i am sticking with it for now and shall see where it goes, especially since i here there is a new ROM due soon
[HD2 General] seed_al:
You could wait for the HTC Bravo.

BUT

- it maybe won't have multitouch at all, or lagging multitouch like the Hero

- it will lack a bunch of features that you get with Windows Mobile

So what you should do is: Instead of just complaining about shortcomings of the HD2, think about whether other devices would really make it better, or maybe have even more shortcomings - then decide what to do.

I also sometimes get annoyed with the HD2, but then I think of all its advantages over other devices like Android ones ot the iPhone, and in the end I always come to the conclusion that, though the HD2 is not perfect, it definitely is the one that comes closest to perfect for me, so it's the right choice - for me, at least.
[HD2 General] mskip:
The title of this thread is maybe not the right thing to put lol :rolleyes:

Nooone needs to convince you to stay mate, if you wanted peoples opinions then thats one thing but if you arent getting on with it and would rather have a different phone or different operating system then thats totally your call and I hope you find whatever combination makes you happy.

Theres plenty of threads stating what people hate and like about the phone and how to tweak the phone and make it perform better so have a read around and then you can decide what you want to do.

Good luck :)
[HD2 General] Xaddict:
Stay

I am humbled by the moderate and patient tone of the replies in this thread.

My first instinct is to flame an attitude of 'convince me to stay'.

As it has been eloquently put, winmo is a feature not a drawback.

Too many people seem to have been caught in the crossfire of Giz-shmodo & Enfadget anti-winmo diatribe.

The way I find solutions to any problem is to STAY.

On winmo there are always many ways to skin a cat.

It would be a pity to be on a platform where there is not the possibility to solve problems other than to complain, which rarely works.
[HD2 General] mohamedmall:
I have been using Winmo for many years and the following are my personal opinions so please don't flame me.:) Truth be told, were it not for the talented developers, chefs, XDA & forum users (XDA & others), I would have moved on a long time ago.

The bigggest problem, imho,is that MS focussed on developing the Winmo OS, handing it over to the Handest maker for a few dollars and thereby "hoped" that the software & hardware would function as a unified solution.

The second issue has been that MS lagged in improving the OS and providing a viable marketing platform to developers. Their are tons of applications available for Winmo, however until recently their did not exist a single unified place to browse, purchase, review and simply install them. As a result Winmo was and to a great degree still is seeing by some as a business OS, one that was driven by how well (or not) it integrated with MS Outlook / Exchange, included office etc. MS has always traded on this perception

As a result of the above, we saw the rise of blackberrys & iphones. Both companies focussed on a single soultion where hardware and software were manufactured as a single unit. Both also focussed on specific solution points, BB on easy, secure access to email / apps and Apple with their product packaging & appstore /itunes integration.

So I ask myself why did I not take the plunge and move to either of these 2 platforms. Simple:

I like the choice I have with Winmo. I can flash Roms, try different radios, install apps from all over, play with the registry etc etc etc.

The HD2 is the first Winmo phone I have had that I can live with as is for the next 2 years. yes it has some issues, however none of them are a real deal breaker.

Until then, I wait patiently for cmonex /olipro and the rest of the team to complete SSPL and for our talented chefs and developers to give us the tools to enjoy our devices that little bit more! So if I were you I would be patient, look beyond the niggles and STAY.

Until Winmo 7 is released and then the fun really begins.
[General Questions and Answers] vadella:
Hi mates,

I've some problem with my new HTC Diamond 2,i think i upgraded incorrect version on my HTC,after upgrade the wm doesn't load the windows.

the screen is freezing on "Touch diamond2".

If there is any solution to downgrade the version of wm without load the windows???and how i can do it???

Thanks

Best Regards

Vadim
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
Welcome to forums

Have a deep read here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Topaz

Good luck,
[General Questions and Answers] vadella:
Thank you Orb

I've fixed it,just like wrote in a your link.

Thank you very much!!!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
Delete
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] niclas_l2:
Cool! I like :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
Not interesting - it is in SDR format. It is NOT nbh. Not possible to extract.

I've already looked at it:)

To be more correct - it is NBH, but encrypted in another way.

P.S. btw - hello from se-nse and mobilefree!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] augie7107:
There must be some way to extract, no?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] augie7107:
Your source is?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
Now - no way, if I am right. Needs some research to remake current nbh tools:)

//I think it is some sort of test roms.

I am sure that the same source as mine - SEUS servers;)

started to upload it here, but seems like I won't finish uploading today (low speed)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
My source is Emma decrypted firmware files:

@ultrashot - but mine is decrypted :).
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
Please tell me file's extension, nothing else needed:)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
Renamed mine. It was without extension. Will give link @22.30 GMT as I'll be home then :).
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
it is more interesting if it is real nbh:) size~190 MB?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
Open your file in any hex editor and post a screenshot of it.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
Press on picture to zoom it

my file
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] augie7107:
That is the source:)

Where's the upload?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IVO17V5N
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] SamsungGalaxySamsung:
who can tell if this x2 dump was usefull?

thank you very much.

greetz
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] augie7107:
Thank you and Happy Holidays
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] augie7107:
Able to download. NBHExtract will not work with this file.

How do you extract the files out of this dump?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
This file seems to be the same as the one posted by Ultrashot. I just got mine a different way (from the same server).
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Ethermind:
so how to extract files?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
Will try just now :).
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
Doesn't seem to unpack.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
oops, one owner of X2 told me that he has r1ad002 firmware version. So this (our) version is outdated anyway;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] darkhalf520:
Outdated or not if we are able to dump this one we can dump whatever other version....the point is dump it first !!

What do you guys think....shall we open a thread in the deving and hacking section....the more people work on this the better no ??
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
I think it would be a good idea because having access to firmwares isn't a problem, the only problem is extracting.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
I am not far from extracting cabs from this firmware;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
I got them!

example:

- <wap-provisioningdoc>

- <characteristic type="Install">

<parm name="InstallPhase" value="install" />

<parm name="OSVersionMin" value="4.0" />

<parm name="OSVersionMax" value="6.99" />

<parm name="BuildNumberMin" value="0" />

<parm name="BuildNumberMax" value="-536870912" />

<parm name="AppName" value="Sony Ericsson SlideView" />

<parm name="NoUninstall" value="1" />

<parm name="InstallDir" value="%CE1%\SlideView" translation="install" />

<parm name="NumDirs" value="4" />

<parm name="NumFiles" value="33" />

<parm name="NumRegKeys" value="7" />

<parm name="NumRegVals" value="19" />

<parm name="NumShortcuts" value="0" />

</characteristic>

:D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] darkhalf520:
:D cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers !!! gr8 news......what a merry merry christmas :D

Now whenever u'll feel to share how you did :rolleyes: GOOD JOB !!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
88 cabs extracted. I haven't tried to extract something else. I will share my way later, need to make it more organised:)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] darkhalf520:
88 cabs....wow.......thought we'd see packages before having cabs.....so on installing the rom on the x2 system installs cabs !?!?...very weird but very convenient i guess
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] :
Check p.m.'s ultra...

WC
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Ethermind:
Some minutes ago a found decryption algorithm.

So, a think ultrashot will use it for final extraction : )

Tomorrow )
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] augie7107:
Nice work!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] sx1-doc:
thats what all about.

good job m8.

hope to see cabs soon.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
I have files without this encryption (after some operations). So it isn't needed, my cabs unpack well.

Preparing cabs now;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] darkhalf520:
is slide view working ??
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] sx1-doc:
my refresh button is burning.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
Seems like cabs should be repacked (possibly missing certificate or bad checksum)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Ethermind:
I have really touched the cabs : )

Nice feeling : )

Just be patient : )
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] yinduyun:
Hi, hopeless newbie here....

Is there any word yet on the chances of any of this actually working on the x1?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Ganondolf:
seems im a bit late to this xmas party. can someone confirm if the full slideview cab is there? also if we are using the re-built cabs from the other threads are there and differences in the software in these cabs?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
press to zoom:)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Ethermind:
"press to zoom:)"

:D:D:D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] darkhalf520:
enough teasing now......zip those cabs and up em....can't wait anymore am loosing ma nerve :P
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
Be patient :D I wasn't at home for a long time, now I am finding DShow and mHub to get videoplayer working
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Ganondolf:
wow, i look good in pictures lol. cant wait for slideview. great work guys
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] cemetry:
When do you think we can play with this nice stuff? Hopefully today because I'm not on my PC till Sunday...

Best wishes and thanks for your work!
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] gtrab:
HAPPY HOLYDAYS to all mates

While you rework the CABs, I'm trying to learn HOW to flash and recover my X2. Thanks for sharing, I'm downloading the fw update

Congrats to all, and what a great year end !!!

Cheers

.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] natedastate:
that means , when the slideview is available for the x1 soon , there are no more apps left from the x2 ?

isnt it possible to develope a cooked ROM from the x2 like all the other topaz or rhodium bearbone ROM's and so on (manilla htc sense ROM's)for the x1 ?

or isnt it necessery because there are no more apps left which belongs to the x2, i mean , we already have commmanager, dialer, panelmanager, a few panels, ...yeah thats it so far i think ( but i saw a video of the x2 where the panels in the panelmanager are different displayed on the screen , not as the same as in that one we already got on xda-devs)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
everything that is already extracted won't change too much. Only files' builds changed (for PanelManager - 37XXX to 38XXX)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
Current progress:

-74 fully working cabs (they install at least)

-1 cab and 2 *.regs were fully remade (they had bad format)

-1 cab was damaged (but it has only two XPERIA wallpapers, so not bad)

-others don't contain any useful info, possibly that will be remade later

*will upload everything tomorrow. Sorry, but I need to rest :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Xperianer:
is there also a german dump or firmware?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] cemetry:
Don't know if ultrashot has deletet the language-files, but the X2-Apps which are online have German language support. I know that, becaus some apps are German on my English Rom!

cemetry
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Aerox912:
This is great news, Congratulations with this achievement Ultra :)

Is there also a slight possibility that this firmware could be rebuilt into a .nbh firmware so we can flash it on our X1's? Or maybe, probably the X2 don't have a SPL based bootloader, because that is only on HTC phone's, couldn't it be possible to use the X2 bootloader to overwrite our bootloader and then it would accept .sdr files?

Or am i totally wrong?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Ethermind:
I found reason of damage. Still the same "worms" ;)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] LaurensBER:
Awesome work guys!

I´m looking forward to it very much :D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] augie7107:
Excellent!!

Rest up and nice work.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] rasool_ka:
pleas pleas pls pls pls Weak up and upload .... I cant wait...:(:o:o
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
All languages are inside:)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] darkhalf520:
when you are upping it tell us

and i would recommend having it in a new thread to be more organized

thnx ultra
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] sx1-doc:
the R button got broken( too many Refreshs).

still waiting
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] darkhalf520:
mine is molten....be clement and give us an eta :D:D
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] uristic:
what should we actually expect, a bunch of CABs or a whole custom cooked ROM ?

can't wait to get hands on these... what ever we get, CABs or ROM. =)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Reversedhex:
once all these cabs online a rom will soon follow by nearly every x1 chef :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Xkan:
Wow, that sounds excellent - really looking forward to the cab files with all languages, that's excellent :)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Tuncal:
................:eek:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] natedastate:
cant wait! when is there somethin to download?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Ganondolf:
any news on expected upload time?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] ultrashot:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=606565
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] uristic:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. finally =D

I've been waitnig for this all day. Thank you very much, gonna test it now and I'll post some feedback.

Great work ! =)
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] djkidy123:
Thanxxxxxx.....................
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] deepthroat:
million thanks ...you're really giving us a shot!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] iosub:
just released and finaly the answer key is locked when you get a call :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hammers4life:
have you got a link? :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] 9up:
www.ac-s2.com :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DaveShaw:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=527523

Closed.

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pulser_g2:
I found that Paul@Modaco's ROM had a good idea of adding WaveSecure to the system partition (preventing listing in the My Downloads part of market, and preventing uninstallation through normal means), but his version is slightly out of date now (latest version is 3.0.0.43)

As a result, I set about finding a means to install WaveSecure to ROM myself. Here are my findings for anyone interested in doing the same.

Install the latest version from the market (3.0.0.43 at this time). Now use adb pull to get it off the device onto your pc

adb pull /data/app/com.wsandroid.apk D:\com.wsandroid.apk

Now open Market back up from the menu, go to My Downloads, and choose Wavesecure Mobile Security Beta and uninstall it for just now (to get it off the data/A2SD location that normal apps are stored in) - thanks, my-space! :)

Then push the saved apk to the system partition after a remount (to make it read/write)

adb remount

adb push D:\com.wsandroid.apk /system/app/com.wsandroid.apk

Then set it all up as usual (will appear in apps list immediately)

and remount system as read only again

adb remount

And that seems to be it so far. Remember to change the D:\com.wsandroid.apk path to whatever you actually used.

Let me know if anyone finds any problems with this, but I've done it and, fingers crossed, it's worked OK for me.

Obviously, this is only for root users, and there are no guarantees for this.

Couple of questions that might need looked into -

- Do settings carry across after a wipe (as Paul claims Modaco's version does. I've never tried it so can't confirm)

- Is there any disadvantage to using this method? (I guess this is all Modaco's update.zip does, but I don't know)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] my_space:
you forgot to metion to uninstall wavesecure before it is pushed back into system....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pulser_g2:
Oops! Knew I'd forget something, as I always seem prone to do. Well spotted, and OP corrected. ;)

Thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] my_space:
No worries I got a bit confused when i pushed it back onto the phone and was still in my downloads...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ldleblanc:
I've rooted my phone already but whenever i try to use the command adb remount I get "remount failed: operation not permitted". Suggestions?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] adwinp:
I see more and more often, redundant threads.

What How-to will you post next time? How to change backlight settings?

You're pointlessly spamming the board.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] rhedgehog:
I can't say i agree with the 'pointlessly spamming the board' comment, but i would have thought this would at least be better in the applications and themes subforum rather than in development.

Don't forget that an awful lot of android users (and more recently all HTC devices) are more and more 'newbs' and need stuff like this.

While this is good and provides info that people like that need (and myself cos i'm crap at adb and stuff like that so wouldn't have had a clue how to do this previously), maybe the development forum is not the best place for it....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] usb0:
I'm guessing one won't be notified via Market if there's an update available if you push an app to /system/app/, right?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] burgess_boy:
You won't be notified, correct
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] DJBenson:
If anybody doesn't already know, WaveSecure have started hosting update.zip files. This means it's now easy to update your "baked-in" version of WaveSecure without much messing around.

https://www.wavesecure.com/installations/update.zip

Download the file, save it to your SD card, reboot into the recovery console and choose the option to apply an update.zip file.

Voila! Your version of WaveSecure will be updated to the very latest version :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] usb0:
That's really awesome! Thanks for the tip! :)

Just a question of curiosity: If I push an app to /system/app/ and then issue the rm-command to remove its apk, won't there be lying a bunch of files associated with the program and with absolutely no function, since the app itself is removed? How do I know the name of these files and where they are located for removal?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] DJBenson:
I'm a bit confused by that question. My understanding (which may be incorrect but from what I've seen of the "guts of a ROM" appears to be the case) is that the applications reside in the apk files, they are not extracted. If you list the content of any of the app folders (/system/app, /data/app or /data/app-private) then all you get is a bunch of apk files (and some odex files). So when you 'push' an apk to the phone, that application is then "installed", when you rm/remove an application, you do so by removing the apk.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
if you remove the apk you have left something in /data/dalvik-cache. wiping the dalvik-cache every now and then helps reclaiming that space, though it is not much.

the app settings and data are stored in /data/data, you could delete the files manually by checking their names (no idea if/what convention the names follow), imho not worth the trouble as it is only a few kb.

odex files aren't created if you don't do in a PITA process manually. don't worry about them, don't touch them, then you're good. odex files are only for system apps.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] motomeup:
I bought a used phone and it had WaveSecure already installed. I couldn't find it in the applications list to uninstall, so I did a factory reset on the phone. The application was still there and it still didn't show up in the applications list.

I have the Superuser Permissions application, so someone must have rooted it.

Is there any way to uninstall this?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Bengaal:
""Just (re)flash a ROM................""
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] strife242:
I just noticed that WaveSecure now points to this post for instructions to install as system application, and I am not sure that the update.zip maintained with them is up-to-date.

However, you can now select to download the .apk directly to your PC thus eliminating the first Market step in this guide.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] pulser_g2:
I believe it is kept up to date, as VillainROM kitchen uses it as a source for the WaveSecure app (fetched each night to keep it up-to-date).

I've certainly never had any problems with it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ddotpatel:
Excellent guide Pulser,... I should really reinstall Wavesecure now Im not using a MoDacO Custom ROM. Nice one bruv.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] stickerbob:
Found this to be helpful.

https://www.wavesecure.com/blog/how-to-make-wavesecure-hard-reset-proof.aspx
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] MentalDeath:
I just did a search in the Market fro 'wavesecure' and two things popped up WaveSecure and WaveSecure UninstallProtection Add-on which needs to be uninstalled before WaveSecure and if the add-on is uninstalled it is supposed to lock the phone. (all this is in the description I have yet to try)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lennyuk:
If you do what is detailed in this post to install wave secure to system/app then you will not need the "protection" app from the market as it will become very hard to remove the app anwyay.