yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jrchester:
ok - I did IT !! yeah!! Thanks a HUGE bunch to all the XDA folks!

What I learned -

you CAN update the HSPL even WITHOUT ActiveSync working and WITHOUT

a working OS WM phone. The hard reset process confirmed that I still had

a base 1.42 ROM.

Per the suggestion above - I was able to use HSPL3 to upgrade

my HSPL to 2.08 HSPL. I also had the LEO 3.15 ROM as LEOIMG.nbh in a

separate directory with the HSPL3 utility. This worked fine - as long as I first

did a "Soft" Reset first - not a "Hard" Reset. I could NOT upgrade using the

HSPL2 or HSPL3 utility after a Hard Reset - so I just tried a Soft Reset - and it WORKED! :)

I probably could have used HSPL2 (which I had), but I went for HSPL3 and got 2.08 HSPL

on my HD2. Thank-goodness! ().

Then I discovered that the ROM Upgrades also will work without ActiveSync

running! - just like the HSPL upgrade - as long as you Soft Reset and Wait for

the USB prompt - and then connect your cable and run the ROM update.

This worked for me!!! I don't remember ever reading this - and in fact the

ROM utility and HSPL utility screens mention to have an ActiveSync connection

establish first. I guess this is for most people that have a working OS phone -

but it will ALSO work if you follow my steps above just by connecting the USB

cable after the Soft Reset progress and it says Serial - then I connected the

USB cable and the screen bootloader switched to USB! - then the utilities

both started working.

So now I have put LEO 3.14 back on my HD2!!

Thanks for the help from the Experts. I learned a lot and hopefully my experience

will help some others.

Thanks once again!!

R / - John
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jrchester:
After some more testing - Final Summary of my experiences:

1. SD Card ROM upgrades can render your phone useless very quickly.

LEO 3.14 original moved my SPL to 3.03 which was useless.

2. SSPL can't do miracles - but almost. It can't make your HD2 phone

work with LEO 3.15 and SPL 3.03. But there is a work-around!!

3. HSPL, SSPL, and ROM upgrades all work fine just by using the Bootloader

and an active USB port connection. There are posts on XDA that say

otherwise - but I beg to differ. I can get my phone (without a working WM OS)

working again - as long as I can still get back to the bootloader and I haven't

"bricked" my phone - with just some ROMs, and SSPL and HSPL.

4. I used SSPL to move my SPL 3.03 back to SPL 1.42. HSPL2 and HSPL3

would NOT do this trick, but SSPL saved the day!! :)

5. HSPL3 moved my SPL from 1.42 (via Item 4 from SSPL) back to SPL 2.08 HSPL.

HSPL3 is awesome too! :)

6. The LEO 3.14 ROM upgrade got my ROM back to 3.14 and thanks to HSPL3

I kept SPL at 2.08 HSPL. yeah! :)

7. Items 4, 5, and 6 were ALL done via a simple USB bootloader connection -

none used ActiveSync with a "working WM OS" phone. Those posts are in need

of some "tweaking" themselves (IMO!)

8. After learning the above, I for one won't need Goldcard - unless I want to

run a ROM that requires more than what HSPL(x) will support. I can see using

it maybe for a ROM that "requires" SPL > 2.08 HSPL. I won't be using that for

awhile.

Thanks to those who helped me today! It was a lot of work and a learning

experience.

- John :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] silverwind:
I'm glad you made it Bro..:)

To me, your experience is quite complicated ;)

Just wanna share too, I still can't find a way to do task 29 using SSPL.

I usually do task 29 before flashing.

I extracted the RUU_signed.nbh from task 29 and put it in the same folder with SSPL. Run the SSPL but progress bar remain 0% :D

I also cant still find a way to do task 29 and flashing radio using SD Card.

Maybe I should dig XDA thread deeper and deeper :D

Anyway, good luck Bro...

Cheers...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
jrchester

I'm happy its working for you, though your long and happy summary posts above contain about 50% incorrect assumptions.

though i shan't be correcting you, i would recommend more, much more, research.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] CompuNerd©:
@ jrchester: john, if you're using 3.14 with anything other than the correct v3.03 SPL, you will experience lots of issues :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jrchester:
I stand firmly by my Final Summary thread above. This does work for me.

I may have had some incorrect assumptions in the earlier threads - but I do know that what I found out was that SSPL, HSPL, and ROM Upgrades ALL work fine in my case WITHOUT "ActiveSynch" and a "working phone with WM OS" on it. I only had my bootloader working and I successfully used SSPL, HSPL and ROM upgrades by what I now call the "bootloader USB method" - works every single time for me without exceptions.

The XDA instructions for SSPL, HSPL, and ROM upgrades in this thread and on other threads in XDA need to be updated. Those instructions all basically say that ActiveSynch and a working OS WM phone are needed. This is absolutely NOT true in my case!!

I did learn that I could update to the "Original" ROM later via either SSPL to move the SPL to 1.49 first and then the SD-Card method worked - but it was very slow.... It also did "fix the Phone Identity" issue to HTC HD2 T9193 as indicated in the other XDA thread. I don't really need this slow and "lame" method IMO - since SSPL, HSPL, and ROM updates all work via the bootloader USB trick in my case. I could also only move up to LEO 3.15 via HSPL (HSPL3 in my case to SPL 2.08 HSPL). This DOES work fine, except for bringing back the T8585 tag - which I certainly don't care about right now. I will patch (later) following the other XDA threads indicating how.

I did enough research with the help of some others here on XDA to figure things out on my own and get my phone working fine right now. I have no problems with it whatsoever.

I will do my own "research" when I need to solve my next problem - thank-you very much.

If you don't believe me about the USB bootloader method - then I suggest you do some "research" of your own.

I am happy with my results and learned enough in my 30 years of computer work, to know that the "instructions" are not "always" correct. If they were literally correct, my phone wouldn't be working right now and I would not have been able to fix my "non-working OS" phone with SSPL, or HSPL, or a ROM upgrade.

I believe that both knowledge and discovery need to be shared. Certainly had the instructions been more clear (and more accurate) - I would have approached this problem differently with my "dead phone".

My proof is my working phone - I don't need "research" to refute that my friend.

Have a nice day!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jrchester:
I disagree - I have not "experienced" any problems whatsoever!!

The LEO 3.15 ROM works just fine having installed it with HSPL3 and SPL 2.08 HSPL.

You should take a look at some other Senior members on the T9193 Thread - I know

of several that did exactly what I just did.

Your experience may be different than mine. For me it's working like a champ!!

Happy trails......and thanks for the advice. It did actually help me down the right path.

R / - John
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] silverwind:
John,

You re right at this point. I think maybe other users also discover ways to solve their problem but they havent shared it to community for their own reasons.

So, we here at xda should encourage users to share their experience, knowledge and discovery in solving the problem. Thats why XDA lives on :)

Cheers....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jrchester:
Thank-you. I wholeheartedly agree - we all need to share more. I want to stay positive and learn and share what I've learned. I only wanted to share what I learned to possibly help others that might be stuck like I was. Sure each user has differences. That's cool.

I believe that I discovered something very helpful - that I had not seen anywhere else

and also wasn't written as so in the "guidance" steps. Sure it might be "researched" somewhere deep in the XDA threads - but really "who's cares?" Let's update the overall new user "guidance" for everyone to benefit and "share" what we learn.

I said my piece (and peace) ! :)

- John
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] CompuNerd©:
How much memory is your handset reporting ? (Settings/HW Info)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jrchester:
I have a standard new HTC HD2 T9193 Telstra Version (not the TM 8585!)

RAM = 576 MB, Flash Memory = 512 MB

(Speed = 1024 MHz)

R / - John
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] CompuNerd©:
OK John

...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] MarcoXX:
SPL 3.03

Hello,

any HSPL coming for SPL 3.03 ?

i have HTC HD2 from Orange operator (Fr)

can i put official htc rom with my spl 3.03 (then without HSPL) ?

Regards,
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Samdeath:
Hey, I dont know if this is the right place to say but that stock roms list doesnt have mine. I have a virgin media UK ROM with 1.66.351.1 WWE Rom and 2.07.51.21_2 radio
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
virging uses generic wwe rom, virgin don't rom lock their phones.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] francescozanghetta:
Flash radio via gold card

Hi guys,

i want to ask if it is possible to flash only the radio via gold card. to be more precise i flashed my T-mobile Leo512 via gold card with RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.I want to change the radio 2.15.50.14 but i cant because i have spl 3.03.000. Is any way to do it??

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] azlan96:
in the ROM i downloaded, there is a LEOImg.nbh and a Leo_SoftwareUpgrade.exe

should I download CustomRUU.exe or what?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
no, sadly not.

same thing. use either.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Calasmere:
I tried to flash Hard SPL, got to the tri-colour screen, then shortly after, the installer came up with a fatal error. Now I'm stuck on the tri-colour screen. Can't turn it off. Have I bricked my phone?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
leave phone in bootloader, just re run hspl.exe. if still doesnt work, keep trying different usb ports. leave phone in bootloader, no need to keep restarting it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Calasmere:
Oh wow, thanks man, I thought I was in deep **** there.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] robs1971:
ok so the guide says:

Run CustomRUU.exe from the Radio's Folder and follow the instructions

can you tell me how to find the rodio's folder please?

thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] silverwind:
check this out: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611787
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mskip:
You need to download the Radio you want from the above link, then extract the contents to a folder on your pc.You can then go into the Radios folder to run the customruu file and flash it.

Mark.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] JohnM109R:
Finally Here:)

Well guys after a long two months of debating if I should get this HTC HD2, It finally arrived yesterday... It's a Telstra T9193 unlocked and paid a pretty penny for it also...but thats ok :) Just got fedup of my iphone period...

Now of course this has bloatware from Australia which is fine for now as I want to make sure this phone has no ill defects and I want to get to know the phone

first, as this is completely diff from my Crapple...:)

I've been reading this forum for awhile now there are some very bright minds here and I Tip my Hat to you guys...Keepup the good work :)

There are somethings I still can't grasp yet. Now let me first say that I live in Montreal,Qc and I'm on a Fido 3G network with a 6gig data plan...And i've noticed ppl talking about make sure that your radio is at xx.xx50.xx but mine came with a 51..now I don't know if it makes a big diff..that part is still confusing to me...meaning once I get to HARDSPL and which HARDSPL there are 3 of them.before I start flashing roms do i need to make sure it will work on my " Radio ...51..."

These are my stats of my phone and all I need is some help on understanding the radio and which HARDSPL to use...

I also want to say is a Big Thanks to MSKIP on how he has the patience and helping out to ppl

Thanks you...MSKIP

Sorry if this is posted in the wrong section if so MODS please relocate....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Welcome, as I see you have the PB81110 model I believe you will need to run HSPL3. Run HSPL and select 2.08.hspl. Once you have hspl on the phone you can flash the radio, which one depends though as radios are area and operator dependent, so what works best for me may not be the same for you. Once you have hspl though, you can try different ones to see which works best for you. If you are going to flash a cooked rom, you will also need to carefully read the rom thread to see which radios are recommended.

As you don't have a TMOUS HD2 you don't have to worry about which radio you flash and both 50 and 51 variations will work, but as explained this is area and rom dependent as some roms won't even boot up if you have the wrong radio, so read the first few posts to see which radio is recommended..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] JohnM109R:
Hi Clyde :) Thanks for the info... As I didn't know if PB81110 was an important

factor see one more thing I learned... I will flash soon but i'm getting use to the

phone first it's my First WinMo...:)

so back to my reading :)

Thanks again

John

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
HSPL1 will work on the PB81110 (telstra), but only if you have spl 1.42.0000. HSPL2 won't work at all (only works on PB81100 (European HD2) and PB81120 (TMOUS HD2). HSPL3 however works fine ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] JohnM109R:
Thanks again C :) But as much as I have read so far 90% of roms need 50 and

there isn't much for 51...But like you said it doesn't matter to my unit and thats where it's confusing...:( So if I want to flash an NGR rom I don't have to change the radio even though it says you need 50..as most roms don't come with a radio right?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] silverwind:
Hi,

Just sharing. My original radio was 2.06.51. It was a year ago. Since many roms suggest to use x.x.50.x radio, I changed it. Now, I'm using 2.14.50. It works better in term of signal reception. And I never went back to radio x.x.51 again ;)

My point is, check the radio requirement of the relevant custom/cooked rom before you flash your phone.

Cheers....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] modesto:
My ignorance

I read the post, but I have to ask a few questions, sorry for my ignorance and fear:

Leo with rom 3.14.408.2 radio 2.15.50.14 - SPL 3.03.0000 Is that all right or do I have to change something. Then after you install Android, Windows Mobile or remains

we only romAndroid.?

Again I apologize for your loss this time with an item as hard as me
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Correct, most roms do use the 50 version radios. What I meant with 51 not being a problem, is because you have a non TMOUS device, you can use a 50 or 51 based radio depending on the rom you choose. A TMOUS device will get bricked if you flash a 51 radio to it. To run an NRG rom on your device you will need to change the radio to a 50 based radio as with the 51 radio the device will most probably not boot.

No, you will not be able to run HSPL with spl 3.03.0000. You will first need to downgrade your rom (look for an earlier version official rom from your operator). You need to get to spl 2.10.0000 (or lower) and then you can run HSPL to select 2.08.hspl. This is however only if you want to install a cooked winmo rom or other stock rom not designed for your device.

Your radio is fine.

You can install an sd card based android rom with the current setup you have and there is no need to install hspl. In this case the winmo rom remains and you can run a dual boot (ie switch between winmo and android.)

If you want to use a NAND Android rom, you will then need to install HSPL (as above) as you need 2.08.hspl in order to run the magldr flasher needed to flash a NAND rom. In this case your winmo rom will be overwritten by the android build and you would need to reflash winmo if you wanted to return.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] JohnM109R:
Good Morning ppl and a Happy New Year...:)

Clyde Now I completely understand what you are say it's much more clear...:)

So one more thing.... So then in my case is I need to flash the xx.50.xx radio

first and then the NRG rom right...if thats the case can you give me an ex: like

what would be a good match for a 50 that would work good with NRG roms...

Now lets say I choose a radio 2.15.50.14 and then flash which ever NRG and it

does not work good....so All I have to do is reflash another radio and not touch

the NRG rom.. can this be done this way..?

Much appreciated in your help guys...

Thanks

John

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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
It is recommended to flash the radio first and then the NRG rom. I use the 2.15.50 radio and it works well for me, but your experience may differ as the radios depend on a number of factors such as location, operator, rom etc etc so it may be a case of trial and error to find the one that works best for you. I'd start with 2.15.50 and see how it goes. Give it a couple of days to see.

If the radio doesn't work out just flash another radio, there is no need to change the NRG rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] JohnM109R:
Thanks C :) for your help much appreciated :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bighead74:
Hello

I have SPL 3.03 and I didn't find a way to downgrade to 2.10 in order to make HSPL3 to work. I tried to downgrade using LEOIMG.nbh in the SD card but i didn't work.

Anyone can help?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Which rom were you trying to downgrade with? You can't just use any rom, it needs to be a rom that matches your device id, ie it should ideally be a rom from your operator or for your location.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lukey-windy:
Ok people I have searched and searched but I am lost. Which ROM shall I download from the link provided in the original post to downgrade my SPL version?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] spirgas:
I used RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_EastEurope_1.48.479.1_Radio_Signed_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2_Ship.exe to remove hspl, so it reverted to spl 142.000, just look at your region rom, i marked it in bold(its mine region). And flash it with sd card method...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lukey-windy:
That's great thank you, I think I have found one. I am unfamiliar with an SD card method so I will get to work searching for it. Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] spirgas:
Look in the first post :) Under #3 called Flashing Via MicroSD Card

Also check second post, there is FAQ and official rom names with S/N and you will know whats yours :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lukey-windy:
Ok I am being a mega noob now. I can't seem to find a correct ROM to flash all I download result in a failure. I am located in the UK and the handset is SIM free.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] spirgas:
Maybe your device is branded? Vodafone? What rom is on your device now? Post your device software info.

I asume u want to downgrade your spl from 3.03?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
try this one

RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.0 7U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gonka95:
Thank you! This made it really easy for my first time. Nothing went wrong and my phone is awesome!:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bighead74:
I tried a WWE, I didn't remember exactly which one. I'm located in italy my HD2 is a T8585 model.

I will try again with RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.0 7U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe, it worked for spirgas, I hope it'll work for me as well.

thanks for your help...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Tudtu:
Hey

Im having problem with getting android working on my htc hd2,

when i Run "CLRCAD.exe" then "haret.exe", i just get at black screen with some very small text:

HaRET boot

Shutting down hardware

Turing off MMU...

In preloader

PSR=600000df

tags relocated to 0x1b00100 (size 0x00000f00)

Initrd relocated to 0x12200000 (size 0x001d0210)

Jumping to Kernel (custom)....

and nothing happens, have waited some time now

i have installed HSPL and tryed some builds but cant make it working
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] shubh.27hd2:
Go to shippedroms.com
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
In the rom naming convention ie 1.66 is the rom base, 405 is the area. This will work for you if 405 is the code for Italy, but I beleive the area code for ITA rom is 408. You need to therefore try to find a 1.66.408 rom
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bighead74:
Ok I found a 1.66.408, thanks a lot.

One more question:

my current radio is a higher version than one included in the 1.66 ROM, of course I would like to keep it for better performances. Will the radio be overwritten by final android NAND rom or after installing this 1.66 rom I need to update the radio with the latest version?

Thanks in advance...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] spirgas:
Flashing official rom it updates and radio that comes with it, so for NANDroid you need HSPL3+radio with 576 ram support, i think 2.15.50 is the best for that...

And then magldr + NANDrom.

Simple :)

Cheerz!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Juno-First:
Ive only ever flashed stock ROM's & my HD2 has the latest 3.14/2.15 radio.

I just checked my SPL & its SPL-3.03.0000 XE

Can I install HARDSPL 2.08 ?

thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Yes, you will probably need to update the radio as the 1.66 rom will most probably install a 51 series radio whereas you need 50 for the NAND android roms. As spirgas suggests, try 2.15.50 and if that gives problems then try another 50 sereis radio.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
You can, but not without some intervention. You first need to downgrade your 3.14 rom to an earlier version for your region and operator (if branded). You will need an spl of 2.10.0000 (or lower) in order to do that. HSPL does not work with spl 3.03.0000.

Try one of these: - http://www.4shared.com/file/CxHb52PQ/RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1664052_Radio_.html OR http://www.4shared.com/file/X9gQD6tK/RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1664052_Radio_.html
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Juno-First:
Ah, few. Good job I checked :o

My HD2 is not carrier locked, its unbranded from Virgin Mobile & can use any carrier SIM.

I already have an official ROM I downloaded ages ago from the HTC website, which is only a couple of weeks newer than the ROM which was on the phone from new, so I'll try flashing this ROM:

RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Pleasure m8, that one will do it (same as the 2nd link I gave above). Good luck.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Juno-First:
Houston we have a problem...

Installed HARDSPL 2.08 & double checked by resetting & checking the SPL Tri-Colour screen.

Installed MAGLDR 1.11

But now when the phone reboots it just stays in the white HTC screen.

I tried turning on whilst holding down the power button, but no MAGLDR screen appears.

If I hold the volume button down it goes to the Tri-Colour screen, so at least I can still put back on a WinMo ROM. I hope?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Did you change the radio? the rom you installed has a 2.06.51 radio. You need at least a 2.08.50 (and must be 50) in order to run these roms.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Juno-First:
Ah, yes that old ROM had 2.06 radio so no wonder it didnt work.

Im flashing back the WinMo ROM 1.66 now, to make sure the phone is still ok as I nearly had a aheart attack when it didnt boot-up & thought it turned into a brick.

Ok, radio 2.08 then (which I presume enables 576mb RAM?).

Trying find it now...