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[P3600 General] bignuno:
Could you please share the solution...

I'm beginning to experience the same symptoms. I would be most grateful if you could publish the solution, or at least the link for an eventually already published solution.

Thank you very much in advance.
[P3600 General] godofwap:
here ya go http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=603960 check out my other post.
[P3600 ROM Development] godofwap:
over the past few weeks some of the buttons (namely left soft key, up and left) have stopped working, i've tried numerous roms just incase but it's definatley a hardware issue, now, i've dismanted the phone using the diamantos guide to see if anything jumps out at me, gave the phone a damn good cleaning whilst i had the chance, put it back together....but nothing, everything seems to be in order, all components in their rightful place but i still cant work it out, does anyone know if this is a common problem or if theres a fix as i've been unsuccessful in my searches.
[P3600 ROM Development] godofwap:
actually, i just found the solution and it worked a treat, thanks anyway people.

btw, if anyone would like to know what i did then i'll be more than happy to share the solution.
[P3600 ROM Development] kabtv:
I'll be more than happy :)
[P3600 ROM Development] MAsterokki:
please share your solution with us, I have the exact same problem
[P3600 ROM Development] godofwap:
ok, no problem, heres what i did.

before you start please be aware that this is a very delicate procedure and you should take care as this may naff up your beloved trinity.

ok, i first disassembled my trinity using the dimantos guide located here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311463,

now, when you get to the keyboard / button pcb take it out if, you look closely you'll notice theres a thin adhesive plastic cover covering the metalic buttons, very very carefull peel this back (i used a sharp knife to get to it), making sure not to completely remove it, try to only expose the underneath of the buttons in question, you'll see that the buttons come away with the plasic leaving the underneath exposed, now, using a cotton bud and some lightly applied alcohol clean the contacts then when all is done, replace the plastic and make sure its firmly pressed back down you may notice it making a different, kind of sharper clicking noise when depressed than before meaning its worked, repeat for all buttons.

i think whats going on here is the gum or glue from the plastic film has "leaked" if you will, onto the plates meaning theres no contact from the buttons, this would also account for the very slight change in sound when you now press the button.

i found this info here http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-289737.html
[P3600 ROM Development] temp9300:
i have the same problem with the front hardware keys. They last around 1 year, i had them changed under warranty the first time but now they are failing again.

Thank you! now i just have check for tools and some courage because i fear damaging my good old trinity. :)
[P3600 ROM Development] donaglia:
....hi to all dear friends!!after half an year of very hard work my trinity has the same problem....only central botton working but,the superior two,works if I do an hard reset!very strange!changing a lot of different roms,from w 5 to w 6.5 the problems doesn't solve...!

- I'd like to make your same operation but I'd like to know first if you too have they working on hard reset before trying....

thanks a lot and merry christmas!
[P3600 ROM Development] godofwap:
yes, even after a hard reset they work for me, its as if it was brand new, bare in mind you may have a different problem so if your gonna try this, TAKE YOUR TIME.
[P3600 ROM Development] temp9300:
I tried doing this but found no plastic cover above the metallic buttons. Maybe it's because mine went for repair with this problem before, dunno.

I don't think i can mess with the metallic part so i guess i'm stuck with this unless i buy a new keyboard.
[P3600 ROM Development] godofwap:
it's more of a very very thin laminate, like sticky back plastic than a cover, it should definately be there unless they replaced the PCB with a different model, otherwise the metalic buttons would just fall away. Again, they may have used a different version of the PCB. You can actually buy the PCB and replace it yourself. (here http://cnn.cn/shop/p3600dopod-d810-keypad-p-1825.html )
[P3600 Software Upgrading] godofwap:
over the past few weeks some of the buttons (namely left soft key, up and left) have stopped working, i've tried numerous roms just incase but it's definatley a hardware issue, now, i've dismanted the phone using the diamantos guide to see if anything jumps out at me, gave the phone a damn good cleaning whilst i had the chance, put it back together....but nothing, everything seems to be in order, all components in their rightful place but i still cant work it out, does anyone know if this is a common problem or if theres a fix as i've been unsuccessful in my searches.
[P3600 Software Upgrading] godofwap:
actually, i just found the solution and it worked a treat, thanks anyway people.

btw, if anyone would like to know what i did then i'll be more than happy to share the solution.
[P3600 Software Upgrading] FlyBy_1:
Hi godofwap,

I have the same problem with a trinity I bought used. Tried to stick some papers under the buttons but that didn`t help so I`m very curious how You managed to get them working again. Hope You find the time to write a short notice.

Have some fine days,

FlyBy_1
[P3600 Software Upgrading] godofwap:
ok, no problem, heres what i did.

before you start please be aware that this is a very delicate procedure and you should take care as this may naff up your beloved trinity.

ok, i first disassembled my trinity using the dimantos guide located here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311463,

now, when you get to the keyboard / button pcb take it out if, you look closely you'll notice theres a thin adhesive plastic cover covering the metalic buttons, very very carefull peel this back (i used a sharp knife to get to it), making sure not to completely remove it, try to only expose the underneath of the buttons in question, you'll see that the buttons come away with the plasic leaving the underneath exposed, now, using a cotton bud and some lightly applied alcohol clean the contacts then when all is done, replace the plastic and make sure its firmly pressed back down you may notice it making a different, kind of sharper clicking noise when depressed than before meaning its worked, repeat for all buttons.

i think whats going on here is the gum or glue from the plastic film has "leaked" if you will, onto the plates meaning theres no contact from the buttons, this would also account for the very slight change in sound when you now press the button.

i found this info here http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-289737.html
[P3600 Software Upgrading] FlyBy_1:
Nice find mate; sounds like a solution for my problem cause when I got my phone the first I had to do was to disassemble and clean the heck outta it, there was dust everywhere as if the old owner had laid it on the moon for a week. But who thought the buttons are actually separatable... strange technique.

Thanks for the hint, at least now I´ve got something to do over the holidays at my parents-in-law :D
[P3600 Software Upgrading] FlyBy_1:
Once again thanks for Your hint.

The problem with mine was actually not dust and stuff between the two halves but too much pressure by the former owner.

After I had separated the plastic film from the board I saw that there were very deep dents where the pick of the metal discs had pushed the soft pcb material down. So I cleaned them anyway and then reapplied the film with an offset of just a fraction of a millimetre so they make perfect contact with the pcb again.

Every single button again works perfectly now :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
Update: The ebay seller took my money, lied about sending the phone which I wanted in time for christmas as a present, then when nothing arrived on the day claimed (24th dec) i contacted them to be told they "tried" to email me to say it had a fault when packing it and will give a refund, for which I am still waiting.

Long story short, I have given up now on wanting to buy a Hero, I was cautious about the seller to start, and they have now ruined my mood over christmas.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OGC313:
Hey :) Welcome to Android...

Hero's don't need to be HardSPL'd, once you learn to 'Flashrecover/One Click Root' you can just store multiple ROM's on your SD card, wipe and flash whenever it suits you :)

Hopefully your Hero comes with a Stock ROM so there is no need to Goldcard bypass it!

Amon-Ra is just a recovery image for when you enter recovery mode after rooting... There are many more to choose from and you will learn all about these after rooting.

Rooting is useful for tethering, themes, storing applications to SD card and (most importantly for me being on t-mobile) getting updates before they are officially released!

The resolution is extremely clear and I'm sure you will be pleased with it :D

Regards
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
Thanks

Thanks

Sounds good, where do I look for a tutorial and the files to get started with this? I'd like to have a thorough read before hte phone gets here so i won't hastily do as my friend did and brick his phone by not reading the instructions first.

From what I can tell, it's a HTC generic Hero with no modifications made, so it should be stock ROM. What does this mean to me and what is Goldcard? I noticed a site where you have to go to get some code using CID? Means nothing to me really.

I saw a video of this or something similar, it's some what of a recovery menu with various recovery options as well as the abilility to install modifications or some sort from zip files?!.

I'm curious, on a phone designed for user customizability, why has it been made so difficult for us to flash custom user modifications?

Good enough for me, not like I intend on playing videos or games on this thing.

Thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OGC313:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/27/how-to-root-your-htc-hero-in-one-click/

- Thats probably the easiest tutorial for Flashrec.

If your Hero is Generic it should be fine and you won't need to create a Goldcard, you can just root straight away. In short a goldcard is editing your SD card to reverse the CID (Customer Identification) code so any RUU/ROM can be installed onto the phone. This is a hardcore method to root and only needs to be done for phones on certain carriers e.g. t-mobile, some Asian carriers.

Yea the recovery menu varies depending on what recovery image you are using (the most popular being Cyanogen, Amon-RA and Modaco). All ROM's are installed as a .zip file, but using the above site will make that clearer, its all simple enough.

http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/27/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-your-htc-hero/

- A tutorial on how to install ROM's after rooting.

There were problems with Cyanogen's custom ROM as he was using Google apps that were only supposed to be used on 'with Google' phones. Maybe for reasons like this rooting has become so difficult?

Regards
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
I see, well hopefully it's not anything like that, I'm slightly concerned because the seller claims the phone is black, but in the picture it doesn't seem to have T-mobile written, across the top, and as far as I'm aware black is exclusive to them. I am hoping it's actually brown and hence no branding, but either way doesn't matter as long as it's unbranded.

As for recovery images, I noticed the One-click rooting uses a specific recovery menu, it's that the one I'm recommended to use or should I switch?

As for ROMs, I'm happy to stick either with stock ROM and make some personal modifications, or I have heard good things about the MoDaCo ROM, although I'm concerned with one small post there, that BT OBEX is planned for a future release, does that mean the current version doesn't have BT OBEX, so I can't send files? I rely on this feature regularly.

As for "comes with Google" I thought all Android phones were "comes with Google", I guess I was mistaken here.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OGC313:
To be honest the recovery image used makes no difference, its just a preference of how you'd prefer the recovery menu to look... I'm currently using the Amon-RA, running the Modaco 3.0 ROM and it does the job for me. I think the video tutorial on unlockr is showing an older recorvery image than the one it suggests you use.

The Modaco ROM currently doesn't support BT as the Hero doesn't have the components needed until the 2.1 Eclair/Flan release. You could always try and flash the 2.1 ROM which isn't fully optimised yet and see if any applications work on that?

http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30418&posted=1#post30418 - 2.1 ROM

Not all Android phones are Google branded, I think its only the G1/Dream and Magic/my Touch, the ones with the Google logo on the back. This is why HTC were able to intergrate Sense UI onto their phone.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
I see, so I take it this is based on an unreleased BETA version? Kinda like the winMo6.5 we were flashing on the Xperia. I guess I will stick with the official ROM for now then.

Is there still some customising that can be done if I root my phone and keep the stock ROM? I require bluetooth regularly for sending V-Cards and files so I can't do without it for the sake of customizability.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OGC313:
If you decide to root, you may aswell flash the Mocado 3.0 ROM which is much faster and less laggy.

No version of the Hero currently supports bluetooth file transfer, unless it works on the 2.1 ROM. Even the stock does not support it, wasn't this mentioned in the specs. when you bought the phone? The 2.1 update which will give the Hero bluetooth support isn't scheduled for release until 1Q/H 2010. Sorry to disappoint
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
Yikes, that is a major let down, something I didn't think possible from anyone but Apple. This means I'm going to have to carry a second phone which is irritating and part of my reason for switching.

In this case, I suppose there really is no reason not to switch to the MoDaCo ROM.

So, when I root, I noticed two methods, one is a pack on the pc with some batch files and recovery images. Should I use this method, or downloaded the latest Amon-Ra and use FlashRec, I noticed Amon-Ra builds of v1.5.1 which is much higher than the ones given in the tutorials.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OGC313:
Yea but at least support is on its way where as Apple aren't even considering it.

For the easiest method the files you'll need to download are:

Flashrec

Amon-RA Recovery image

Modaco 3.0 ROM

Latest Radio (ends in .26)

Basically put all these files into the root of your SD card, and install Flashrec using a file manager found in the market (I find Astro the best).

Open up Flashrec once its installed and click Back-up recovery image, it will then say 'Working do not interupt'.

Once that is done, type the name of the recovery image in the empty box ( I think Amon-RA's is something like /sdcard/Recovery-RA-HERO-v1.2.3.img) and then click Flash new recovery image.

Turn off your phone and reboot into recovery mode by hold down the HOME and POWER buttons, which will then bring up the recovery menu which you have seen before.

Scroll down to nandroid back-up and click that so if anyone goes wrong you can restore everything. Once done click Wipe Date/ Factory Reset and wate for that to finish.

Then scroll up to install .zip file (Not install update.zip) and click the Radio file. This should be relatively quick.

Once that is finished click on install .zip file again and click the Modaco ROM, which should take a far bit longer to install. Scroll to the top of the menu and reboot system.

If it seems to take a while to reboot do not worry!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
Sounds simple enough, just one questions, I found this version of Amon-Ra's Recovery v1.5.2, should I use this instead since it's later?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
yes, always use the newest version from the official thread here.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
Thanks, got that downloaded now, so I'm good to go. Now just to sit patiently twiddling my thumbs until my Hero arrives.

Anything I can do in the meantime? Hero related I mean.

One question, as an Engineer myself, I'm curious why HTC has has made this device not only with so little ROM, but also not able to install apps to the SD card by standard(assumption based on the A2SD hack I am assuming enables something that couldn't be done before), is it not a given that we might want to install over the ROMs capacity worth of apps?

I'm just feeling a little disappointed at the moment considering all that Android was supposed to be, I followed it's progress intently as an Engineer and a curious gadgeteer, it seems things are being made a little more difficult than they should be (perhaps by HTC?) in order for us to have the customisability we desire for our OS, which, given the ability we should, technically be able to re-write from the ground up.

Someone tell me I'm wrong, and the worst I'll have to deal with for hte time being is having no BT OBEX. (I have come from an N95->iPhone->Xperia, and a rocky road it was.)

Thanks, for all the help so far guys, it is appreciated.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
read these forums ;) but i guess you know/did that already.

well, for example it will most probably give you errors and problems when you eject the sdcard while the phone is powered up... what i would complain about is why the hell does such a phone only have 512mb of flash of flash memory? flash memory is as cheap as sand, just put some 8gb in there and nobody would have a problem. make it 10$ cheaper, who cares when you can write "8GB!" on the box?

well in fact it seems to be harder to customize the hero, but that is mainly due to its htc sense ui. if you want the fullblown modding phone you should get a g1, at least that is how i see it. just have a look at the g1 threads, they're flooded with roms and themes. tbh i don't miss it, i like when i have the feeling that i know all my options. then i take the best (in this case mcr), mod it to my needs and then use it. imho the hero is a way cooler device than the g1, i find it ugly and bulky. thought this about the hero too, until the day i had my coworker's in my hands, at that point it was only a matter of time until i could extend my contract and get the hero ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
Well

Well, my getting a Hero is a funny story, I had my Xperia which I was happy with along with the custom ROMs running TouchFlo until one day I was in the Phones4U shop talking to them and they mentioned that the Satio had been recalled.

So, being the good friend I am, I went to my friend who wasn't at all happy with the Satio and told him he could swap it for something else because it's recalled.

My friend of course asks what I would recommend, and having been a WinMo user, I knew he wasn't the type to want to customize a device in that way, I mentioned HTC and android, so he had a look, we weighed up each one briefly and I basically said go for the Hero, I'v heard a lot of good things about it.

So, lo and behold, the next day he turns up with a Hero, which I then get to hold for the first time and am amazed.

Being the gadgeteer I am, it just would not do for a friend not even interested in gadgets to have the phone I now want!

So, I got myself one, and am now waiting impatiently for the ebay seller to deliver it.

Personally, I would never have considered the G1, it was ugly, and the specs were horrible, and the keyboard slide method wasn't nice at all.

When I first saw it, I was thinking, smaller, soft keyboard, slightly better camera and what not, and i'll buy it, and here we have it, the Hero.

As for customization, I'm not hugely bothered, as long as I can theme the thing myself.

The main thing that is non-stock I'm interested in are tethering by USB or Wifi to my 3G connection, other than that and theming, I can't think of anything off the top of my head I would need to do, only a phone that doesn't do everything it should, needs customizing so much as my Xperia did.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
you will be happy with the hero ;)

even theming is doable, though not in a few clicks. i tried, had a proof-of-concept and then it got too complicated for my unpatient being... :rolleyes:
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
Well, I used to theme for the iPhone, which included SSHing to the phone, downloading .artwork files, unpacking, converting the PNGs, editing, repacking and uploading again followed by a reset.

Assuming it's not too much more difficult than that, I should have no problem theming, on the plus side, I'm a perfectionist and a minimalist, so in terms of the graphics, the editing in Photoshop shouldn't be too great, and my skills are adequate anyway.

I'm very anti-clutter and anti-glass and anything of the like as can be seen from one of my old iphone themes here.

My main focus usually is on retaining functionality while being able to clearly see the wallpapers unhindered.

Although in the iPhone case, my removal of the slide to unlock bar at the bottom was for pure novelty and was done to purposely hinder unlocking the device.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
add a little signing and you have the process for the hero ;) though i prefer using adb and the usb cable. never actually hacked an iphone (my friends who own one are all wusses ;) ), but i would think it is even easier on the hero.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
I see, from what I can find through searching, I assume ADB to be the Android Debug Bridge?

Something to do with the development mode connection of the phone, does this not connect the SD card to USB though rather than the Internal?

And how difficult is the signing process for the files, I have no problems with command prompts as a programmer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tomasimic:
Read it somewhere that TP2 has second camera but it's hidden by t-mobile?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] f1ip:
you read it where???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rorytmeadows:
Yeah, you're referring to the camera built into the front of the device. The European version has it installed, but the US versions had it removed. It's used for video calling and in the US, the cell networks are so bogged down by data usage, that it's really not possible. If you look at the front of your phone, top right, you might still be able to faintly see where the camera is supposed to be.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tomasimic:
Don´t know exactly, but sure not here.

Something that is operator locked the front camera cause has forbidden in USA,

and if you unbranded the phone you can use it for video call.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rorytmeadows:
It was removed by HTC for all US phones. It's not forbidden, it's just not practical on the networks in the US. There are way too many teens texting and watching videos of stupid musical artists (Lady Gaga) for the networks to have enough room for live video feeds (that have to be as dependable as their phone service itself).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] tomasimic:
you sure that second camera (hardware) not inside device?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rorytmeadows:
Like you, I'd love to be proven wrong about that camera being stripped, but I've already read it numerous times...

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http://gizmodo.com/5335326/t+mobile-htc-touch-pro2-review-wait-how-much

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http://www.mobilitysite.com/2009/07/t-mobile-touch-pro-2-august-12th/

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http://www.wmexperts.com/t-mobile-touch-pro-2-camera-review-follow

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