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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KevinAlbrecht:
I have a few questions about Sense, Win 6.5 & 6.1.

I feel quite n00bish, since i had the Kaiser(Tilt 1) for two years & even flashed a custom ROM, but I am looking for some insight into what 'Sense' is, and what does it get you, and does my stock ATT ROM that I have, have it?

I just got the handset, so I assumed it was WIN 6.5, no?

Do I need to flash a custom ROM (Is it advised, since I am happy with the stock ATT rom <for now>?) to get the weather on the clock?

If these are questions I should have read already, please direct me to those threads. But honestly, I am on XDA daily, and I have not come up with the answers.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] azuka:
Yes i installed the Official version from the HTC Hong Kong site. I had to Hard-SPL it because so as to be able to install it since i have the middle east version of the TP2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] irkan:
I am not sure that have to do that, as the HARD-SPL just bypasses the signatures so the cooked ROMs can be installed. but since you are installing an official ROM, which comes with its own boot-loader, than no need for the HARD-SPL.

just learned it from this thread :P

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=610590
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sumflipnol:
Sense (for WM) is the new upgrade to TouchFlo3D. It is what HTC now dubbed as the WM version of the Android Sense UI found on the Hero.

The stock AT&T ROM contains the old TouchFlo3D 2.0 (aka Manila 2.0). Some ROMs here come with Sense 2.1 (aka Manila 2.1), which has weather on the clock.

Other ROMs here come with Sense 2.5 (aka Manila 2.5); however, Sense 2.5 is native to the HTC HD2 (Leo), so it's a little buggy on our Rhodiums, but it's pretty good; Sense 2.5 have quicklinks and an animated weather background on the Home Screen, but there is no "Programs" Tab.

The Tilt2 from AT&T has a stock ROM containing WM6.5 and TouchFlo3D 2.0. I liked flashing my T-Mobile ROM since it came with a lot of T-Mo bloatware on the device, like your AT&T ROM. Custom ROMs will get rid of all your AT&T bloatware, and thus make your phone faster, but the drawbacks are the fact that some custom ROMs will have their own bugs. And like I said earlier, Sense 2.1 and 2.5 are the ones with weather on the Home Tab.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] irkan:
and just to add, that the unlocked Touch Pro2 devices that come pre-shipped with the official WM6.5 have Manila 2.1 (at least the GSM ones)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KevinAlbrecht:
Thanks so much for this reply. Crystal clear now. Now to decide on what to do...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] playerofdeath:
Hi

I got same phone, it have all telstra stuffs on it.

From your post looks like my phone wont have any problem if i upgrade it to 6.5, currently it has 6.1.

If you don't mind can you please let me know the safe procedure for upgrading rom and still keeping the old one as a backup.

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] charlie_82:
Here in South Africa, the release has Sense - coloured icons and weather animation on the home tab.

It doesn't have the 3 customisable shortcuts on the home tab though and no big buttons on the bottom, just the standard windows bar with text
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jmarotto:
No weather animation on the clock

My sig has all of the info from my phone, which is still running the stock ROM. After cleaning out the crud and a few changes to the slider icons and bar/tab, I'm very happy with it except, there is no weather animation on the clock and the clock is blue.

I found this thread searching for how to get the animation. I have cabs that will change the clock to clear, but I'm still looking for BLACK. Will be working with HD Wall and MAXTF3D Theme maker over the next week or so to try and come up with the black clock.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] S3BAZ10:
HELLO OUT OF ALL THE NEW LEO 2.02 ROMS IHAVE TRYED THIS ONE IS THE BEST REALLY STABLE AND FAST! ALTHO HE HASNT POSTED A THREAD ABOUT I FOUND IT IN HIS DOWNLOAD FOLDER ND I LOVE IT!!!

http://hotfile.com/dl/22456269/fb0f6ad/EnergyROM_21885_RHODIUM_31.Dec.2009_StandardM2.5.rar.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] irkan:
Why are you screaming? Lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petzku:
LOL, I would yell it out too :)

It's new years eve!! Happy New Year Everyone! And thank you eNeRGy for your great roms for this year!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] S3BAZ10:
lmao idk my keyboard was just in caps lol. bt petzku is right haha,

but yup happy newyears to all, nd yup NRGZ28 alwais has great roms!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] biobas69:
his rom post was updated earlier with the new info, but for up-to-date info on nrgz28 rom follow his twitter.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Gandhi70:
as i do not like the automatic landscape switch for manila 2.5, is there an option to disable landscape mode for manila 2.5 in these new roms?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] just2good4u3434:
Google Navigation is constantly giving me the "Searching for GPS..." message. Even when I use other navigation programs I still get the same message and the same blinking GPS icon in my status bar.

I have tried a number of things:

Flashed a new ROM (went from Cyan's latest to Dwang)

Reflashed the radio

Flashed the Danger SPL

Flashed Amon RAs Recovery

Nothing worked

There was a time when it worked, but that was a few months ago and I don't remember when it stopped working.

Just so you know I have tried it outdoors on a clear day, and I have reinstalled Maps many times.

If anyone has any ideas it would be greatly appreciated.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
Try downloading the GPS status app from the market and see how many satellites your receiver can see. it needs atleast 4 for a good lock, at minumum 3. If your receiver can't see any, it may be defective
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] just2good4u3434:
It cant see any.

Could something like flashing a ROM cause the GPS to become defective?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kusotare:
not likely. are you inside a building when doing this? I seem to recall way back when I first got my G1 in the preorder that we were told to properly calibrate the GPS by going outside, turning the GPS on, setting the phone down for 5-10 mins somewhere that had a clear 360 degree view of the sky and let it go to work. I did exactly that. Over a year later and it takes my GPS less than 10 seconds to drop to a 3m radius, unless I happen to be in a building, and even then its pretty good (I can generally get a 20m lock inside thick buildings like shopping malls, etc).

So give that a shot and see if it calibrates.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] just2good4u3434:
Well I left the phone outside for a solid half hour, and it still isnt finding any satellites. Any other ideas?

*EDIT*

I realized what is wrong. A few months ago i PEELED OFF THE GPS ANTENNA!! I just thought it was pointless tape on the back and it was already starting to loose its adhesive, so I just pulled it off. I feel like a grade-A moron.

Is there any other material I can substitute, or any way I can repair this?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] just2good4u3434:
Bump for new info
[HD2 General] ManuelLemke:
Hello, i bought HTC HD2 and there is one problem with it:

Sometimes it starts to call the last called Person automatically!

The Device also starts opening the Windows-Mediaplayer and Active Sync in the Background.

So how can i stop autonomous Programm-Starts and make the ****ing Thing shutup and work what i ordered it to terminate?

It is my Capacitys, my Time, my Electricity where i have payed for, my Internet, my Device - i own it to all Eternity, so my Personal Data Slave has to do what i ****ing want!

How to "help" it to "its Self" to return to the Right Way by Working correct? THX,

Manuel
[HD2 General] romac:
Had similar problem until I upgraded to 1.48 ROM
[HD2 General] leslie lee:
same problem

I had the same problem.

I noted after installing the program Global Navigator 5.5 I had this same problem.

I tried locking the hd2 n thereafter switching it off however it still intermittenly recurs again.

Guess I may have to either hard reset or flash a newer rom and hopefully this problem can be eliminated.
[HD2 General] danusko:
Hi all,

pls. know anybody, where can be a problem with my ringing.

I choosed "increasing ring" in settings, but it always start ringing on level, which i have set with my volume buttons :(

I desperate because this :(

I want to use something like my previous phones...where works profile and defined volumen ringing and, increase ringing egg.

Thx for all help.
[HD2 General] danusko:
nobody has problem with this?

if you have set increasing rigning start your ringing on low level an it increase? becasue my not :(
[HD2 General] danusko:
pls. help, where can be a problem? nobody knows?
[HD2 General] danusko:
pls. only write here if your increase type of ringing works.

thx for each help
[HD2 General] amang2205:
Hey mate, sorry to see noone picked up your question...

So, increased ringing is working fine for me, and I'm almost certain it works for you too.

However, the guys at Microsoft had a rather... "interesting" way of creating this feature: why you don't probably hear an increased ringing sound is because increased, microsoft way, means that the "song" will first ring at your current volume, that a little bit louder, that louder again...

So keep in mind, the entire sound (so if it's 10 seconds long, you will hear the entire 10 seconds, the sound at one level). When the sound is played from the beginning, only then will you hear a louder sound and so on...

Hope everything got clearer!

Alex
[HD2 General] danusko:
Thank you amang for your important info. I use mp3 song and this is long song. But increasing from current volume level is strange :(.

Do you thing, that is possible to change, that increase ringing will start at level 1? Or maybe (but this is maybe impossible) increase after 2 second of ringing and not after whole mp3?

thx
[HD2 General] danusko:
Knobody knows if is here any way to do this?

Maybe with mortscript, which will control if is ringing ON and if yes, then will increase level of sound to higher. Eg. after 1 sec..

Is it not possible? I tried to search which registry key control phone ringing status (if now phone ring - incoming call) or NOT.

Really is it not possible to do this?

thx for any help
[Touch HD General] jldiablo:
Hi all,

I made a cab from the 2009-12-15 Leo SMS fix (http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=812&news_id=407), so this can be installed on other devices with Sense 2.5..

I'm on a sense 2.1 rom currently, so can't test it...So be careful, it might break ur SMS function, test with your own risk and always backup (I guess the new 2.02 package has the update already or even a better fix)..

happy new year!!

George

New SMS Fix Cab added (dated 2010-01-14):

http://www.mediafire.com/file/wodzbyyzdmy/SMS_LEO08007.cab
[Touch HD General] will_santana:
wath exactly it fixes?

[]s
[Touch HD General] edangel:
yes...what exactly it fixes??
[Touch HD General] jigners:
Is this to fix the slow Messaging with Leo Roms ??
[Touch HD General] jldiablo:
i'm not sure what it fixes... but it doesn't seem to fix the annoying slow messaging thingy... I was just coverting the .exe which can only be installed on HD2 to a cab that can be installed on every device..

I have heard that the htc messaging in the 2.02 pack is fast, anyone tried it?
[Touch HD General] jigners:
what is your point in creating a thread with a cab entitled "sms fix" and you are

not sure what it does? shouldn't you have tested it first and shared to us what

exactly it can help?:(
[Touch HD General] d.cortez:
no offense, but i agree with jigners... hopefully the OP has had time to test it by now! :)
[Touch HD General] Swarvey:
Am I the only one in this thread that uses the actual HTC site? or do people just like to hijack threads and flame people who are doing what they can to help the community... As I remember no one else knew what the Leo Camera Fix did either, but it proved useful, at least for some.

Looks to me like HTC don't really say what the fix "fixes" but THANKS for creating the CAB, i'll have a look and see what it effects if anything. If it's worth it I'll cook it in for my next flash
[Touch HD General] Swarvey:
Okay, have just installed the CAB.

So far no noticable difference when sending / recieving SMS.

I'm using my own custom ROM, using WinMo 6.5 28014, and most of the packages from Leo 1.48.

Thanks again for the CAB anyway.
[Touch HD General] poopoo:
Hi guys,

be easy, read the link:

"this update delivers just that: fast and reliable SMS messaging."

these files have been updated:

Messaging.dll

Messaging_Client.exe

MessagingClientDll.dll

MessagingNotification.dll

MessagingRes.dll

MessagingService.dll

mms.dll

MsgSettingDll.dll

PushClient.exe

DlgHelper.exe

GetHtcMmsLimitDll.dll

HtcMailAccount.dll

JSRHandler.dll

MessageStore.dll
[Touch HD General] jldiablo:
@Jigners

When the fix first came out, I tried it but it won't install on hd. and now I learned how to create the cab, so I just made it. I need to have my phone switched on all day right now and I'm with a sense 2.1 ROM, so can't test it, but I thought someone with a lower leo build may want to try it...

yes, you are right..sorry for let you down.. I won't do it next time.

@Swarvey&PooPoo

Sorry for wasting your time... thanks for your kind words :)
[Touch HD General] miniterror:
also gonna give it a go

still on a energy rom of 23-09 whit m2.51919

will report back later

ps gonna restore over 800 messages to test it to the ultimate:p
[Touch HD General] miniterror:
well tested it and it works sort off

i can type directly but the message im replying to isnt shown:p

so its kinda a fix:p
[Touch HD General] andycted:
hi,

have you tried restoring tons of messages to see if the slowness has been somehow fixed ? Last time I've tried with 2.5 the phone almost got stuck (with about 600 messages)
[Touch HD General] ClydeB1:
I sort of think the 2 posts directly above your post answers that question don't they ;)
[Touch HD General] andycted:
thanks, I could read those, but I'd like a bit more of an explanation:

you installed the fix and restored tons of sms, what I'd like to know is this:

- adding a contact with a lot of sms history to favourites slows down the phone ?

- opening such contact slows down everything ?

- I understand there is no sms history shown in the manila contact at all ? actually that point isn't very clear to me. where is that the original message is not shown ?

what I'd like to know, if you have got time to explain it to me, is what actually the fix changes, and how fast it makes opening sms history on a contact.

One last minor point is that a big sms history had most sms cut to one or two lines.

Regards

Andy
[Touch HD General] miniterror:
well for from the contact page i cannot tell you as i have flashed my phone a couple of times afterwords:p(im trying to build my own)

for the sms not shown

when i get a new message i go the message tab and click the sms

there im supposed to see the threaded conversation between the person im replying to

the whole conversation doesnt load(waited about 3 min)

but i can directly type a reply to the text message whitout a lag

hope this sorts of that question:p

best regards

miniterror
[Touch HD General] jldiablo:
here is a fix for the slow sunny animation....

I have tested this, it works
[Touch HD General] bertrandno7:
does it work for 2.1 manila?

and come on people! just thank this guy for even bothering to create a cab and sharing it in this community.
[Touch HD General] jldiablo:
no, the sms fix is only for Leo package lower than 1.49...and the weather fix is for any sense 2.5.. I think 2.1 manila does not need any fix, both sunny animation and sms are working ok in 2.1 manila
[Touch HD General] miniterror:
well i believe im on those packages as my rom i tested it on is from 23-09 using sense 2.51919 but dont know for sure though
[Touch HD General] andycted:
I see, my interest was caused by the problems I encountered the last time I flashed a 2.5 rom, having tons of sms for a contact would bring the system to a crawl, but is this what it fixes or just some related problem (while writing sms) ? just curious before I find time to flash 2.5 again.

I was also wondering why no sms history shown on the hd...

[edit] apparently reading the thread at the leo forum, this fix is only for the 'stuck in outbox' bug (whatever that is) and doesn't absolutely touch sms lag.
[Touch HD General] jldiablo:
The Htc messaging is slow and if you have lots of msgs, it will take a hell lot of time to load them...without the fix, you have to wait some time for it to load some of them b4 you can write anything (replying)..

the fix will allow you to start replying b4 it loads anything..i think this is what “the fast and reliable SMS messaging” meant by HTC... and it is consistence to miniterror's observation

@miniterror

I think ur package is 1.43 or 1.48, so definitely you can use it… but if you cook in the new HTC messaging from 2.02 pack, it should be even better… I know I shouldn’t have made the cab, it is useless and ppl don’t like it 

Anyway, have you tried the weather fix, this one truly fix the problem… now the only thing left for sense 2.5 is the slow messaging..
[Touch HD General] andycted:
thanks for clearing that up, I fear though that this could be bad news, maybe at htc they think that this is enough of a 'fix' and they won't sort the extremely slow (also on hd2) htc messaging loading...
[Touch HD General] miniterror:
it isnt useless;)

every attempt to try to make the messaging faster/better is a step in the right direction:p

as for the weather fix i have not tested it as in my opinion the weather goes smooth over my screen on the 23-09 rom

maybe in the newer roms it slower then my ''old stuff''

when im done playing whit the kitchen and make my phone all fday uasable i will try the fix:D
[Touch HD General] jldiablo:
really....? i tried a lot of sense 2.5 rom...none had a smooth sunny animation.. you must have got a good package.. good luck with your cooking:)
[Touch HD General] 13141312:
HTC has released new SMS update on 14 Jan, would you pls re-make a cab for devices with Sense 2.5? Thanks.
[Touch HD General] onesolo:
x2 please!!!!
[Touch HD General] vdude_1:
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=849&news_id=475

Just follow the instructions. Not quite a cab but still very simple to install.
[Touch HD General] jldiablo:
it doesn't install on HD, does it? You get the wrong device notification... I will try to make the cab tomorrow if I have time...there are 700+ files in the update, it will take sometime to get them all sorted..

btw, the update contains Messaging_Client.exe 1.5.2011.2130
[Touch HD General] emanrov:
Wow update as cab? Any chance of getting all those input methodes back, I lost with custom ROM win6.5/sense2.5? Somthing like this worldwideweb.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=824&news_id=473 (not permitted to post links - sry) as cab? Would it work?

Thanks for help.
[Touch HD General] ado_civon:
It works, its great

This has brought my HTC Touch HD back to LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW AND WOW again. Installed on MaryOne Rom 1.07 I think and i must say i'm impressed. I like my phone again

PS: run the file from device memory not from storage card, might get error "no permission to execute..." half way through.

I did, but copied to device and re-run works!

Downloaded from HTC Pedia
[Touch HD General] gnagis:
are you talking about the new or the old sms hotfix?

i cant find this hotfix anyway else then the "exe" file that says "not for this device" ?
[Touch HD General] 13141312:
It's a good news for me, and awaiting for your new cab. Thx!
[Touch HD General] st3ph3nt3:
http://htcpedia.com/sms_hotfix_for_all_leo_hd_roms/soft/other.html
[Touch HD General] millski:
Thanks st3phent3! Installed on my HD running Balaji 2.0 rom (based on Leo 2.02) and it made no discernible difference to the speed of messaging. Oh well, worth a try :)
[Touch HD General] eddyve:
I can't install the sms hotfix on the new nrg 23518 rom. It worked on the pevious rom (28011), but not in this, not the first hotfix or the new (from HTCPedia) fix. I get the same error "..not sufficient rights to install...". I tried to install from device memory as some suggested, but that din't work either.

Anybody else?
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Just tried this. No difference in speed, smoothness or anything with regards to sms. Going to uninstall it

EDIT - WARNING

Once installed it doesn't appear on Remove Programs list
[Touch HD General] st3ph3nt3:
But you should be able to write sms right after the htc messaging page appear while old messages are loading, right?
[Touch HD General] millski:
I sort of always could. As the messages loaded if I tapped the entry field the keyboard would open before all the messages had loaded and I could start writing (though it was slow and jerky). With the hotfix installed the behaviour is the same - it still makes me wait to load the messages or I can tap the entry field early and type, but still slow and jerky. The hotfix faq says it's for roms 1.66xx and below, doesn't it? So presumably the 2.01 and 2.02 based roms already have it anyway...? :confused:
[Touch HD General] st3ph3nt3:
If you have the sms count beside the recepient name on htc messaging page then I would assume that your rom already had the latest sms fix.
[Touch HD General] millski:
Yeah it did. I thought that was a part of what was 'new' in the hotfix but it doesn't give much informatikon on HTC's site. When I read that I thought 'oh, my 2.02 rom already does that so this hotfix must already be included...' Anyway the upshot is HTC messaging still seems laggy to me, and I hardly carry around any sms (3 or 4 at a time, regularly empty the deleted box etc). Keep trying HTC!
[Touch HD General] vdude_1:
I installed the cab followed a flash of Xannytech Grid Leo 2.5B but didn't check before hand how fast it was..So I'm not sure if it's the ROM or the cab that did it but messaging is much faster now than I've encountered before.
[Touch HD General] Zach2030:
Installed HTCpedia cab on Touch HD with Dutty's Leo Holy Grail R0 and works a charm. Messaging app is now much faster, no lag, can type immediately. Just what I wanted.
[Touch HD General] pLUSpISTOL:
Same problem, I've tried the HTCPedia Hotfix on NRG's new Leo 6.5.3 rom but when installing it says "not sufficient rights" :/
[Touch HD General] gnagis:
Disable manilla

for those having problem try this:

1. put cab file in MAIN memory

2. go to settings and disable "HTC SENSE" so you have no todayscreen

3. restart phone

4. install cab

5. restart phone

6. activate HTC SENSE again

that worked for me when it said i did not have permission to install cab file
[Touch HD General] 13141312:
Great work, thanks your effort!
[Touch HD General] daasguy:
works with LEO roms SMS hotfix

this works with leo roms fix slow manila 2.5 msgs

http://rapidshare.com/files/336616993/Touch-IT_SMSFIX_Leo_0409.cab.html
[Touch HD General] el_dobre:
It works with ITA roms?
[Touch HD General] Atmos:
reupload please
[Touch HD General] playdo:
Here is the download again link

I installed it and only "feel" a light improvement.

Could be imagination, but it seems faster.

But now, there stands "-GSM" behind every message.

Whats that?

greetz

playdo
[Touch HD General] Tsointsoin:
It is much faster for me but I can only receive sms, sending sms freezes my HD... and I need to soft reset it.

How can I uninstall it? I can't find the "SePpI_HTC HD2_LEO08007" file in the control panel... :confused:
[Touch HD General] 13141312:
Official update of SMS for HD2 is leased today by HTC website, don’t sure if possible to install into HD with Leo ROM.
[Touch HD General] onesolo:
Can anyone make a new cab from this third cab?!?
[Touch HD General] BRSG:
I second that... Any chance of getting a cab of this new version of the SMS Fix?
[Touch HD General] onesolo:
still no one?? this third fix is said that is much better...