yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ephestione:
still worth it... at least now you know that's a no-go :rolleyes:

If that makes you feel any better -which I don't think- some other users in my custom rom's thread are reporting constant call quality problems with newer radios which are necessary with newer versions of the rom.

Curiously enough, it seems that the only people having problems are the one who bought the HD2 from the UK, while the others who bought phones in italy can use the latest radios without hassles, but that's just a very partial report
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] loomx:
Yup, mine is also a UK HD2 (from O2.)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
mines o2 uk and I've not had any issues with any radio, having tried all of them from 2.6 upwards.never touched rilphone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] spikey_w:
Have you tried the Artemis rom yet? I can use any radio with this and sound quality is good.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] spikey_w:
Have you tried with ROMs that enable 576Mb of RAM? I only have this static noise with ROMs without this.

I test this by making a call to my landline and I mute the HD2. This static noise only happens when you have the volume low, so the background hiss does not drown out the static. Now speaking into the landline handset and listening the HD2 I can hear the static noise at the start and end of speech.

I'll be interested if you really don't have an issue as mine is from O2 too and may try to push for a replacement if it is actually faulty.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
current rom (and some of the previous ones) successfully showing 576 meg.

current radio is the 2.08 one.

tried your method of calling land line then muting the phone, and when listening to the hd2 earpiece there is a really faint (and I do mean faint) echo of the background noise. when un muted the echo vanishes.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] spikey_w:
Thanks Sam for trying out the test.

I'm glad you don't experience the same problem. I did try to speak to O2 but they were reluctant and since I wasn't using or experiencing the same problem with the o2 stock ROM I did not push too hard for a replacement. I also got my unlocking code recently which took a while to come, so that it is now a sim free mobile.

As I remember someone else said after a replacement the problem was gone too, I'm more determined as this is the only issue I have with my HD2.

Cheers
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ephestione:
I need to stand corrected. Someone just reported in my custom rom's thread that he's using italian phone AND is having bad call quality with newer radio.

Also, I've read about people having bad quality only with 576mb activate, while quality was fine without 576mb... so that isn't the reason either.

I have 2.06 radio myself, and no idea about when I'll find the time and good will to flash latest rom/radio and reinstall everything, so cannot really report my experience.

My 2.06.50.23_3 is actually great quality, and I get coverage even inside a room where everyone else gets no signal at all.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] HTCHDHK:
Can't flash radio

I want to flash my stock rom radio before installing cooked rom, but I don't know why my HD2 stuck at HTC start flashing screen at 0% when flashing radio, i have been waiting for long time, it still at 0%. I use customRUU with radio nbh. Am i doing something wrong? or must flash with HSPL? because of using with HSPL will loss warranty.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
i'm pretty sure radios require hspl just like roms.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
As samsamuel suggests, flashing a new radio does require hspl.

HSPL itself will not lose your warranty as it is reversible so as long as you put your original rom and spl back then you will still have your warranty.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djhackett:
error flashing radio 2.07.50.27

Reflashed a few different radios to see what one works best in my area (London uk) and I started flashing the above radio which crashes at 58%.

The utility gives me the option to go into recovery mode and then restart the update but it keeps crashing at 58% and just giving me the same option again.

Whe I start up the device it has a triange with ! in the middle and then just into the bootloader screen.....any ideas or help are appreciated.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djhackett:
Panick over I just reflashed a new radio - Scary moment, thanks for anyone that would have told me to do that anyways.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] l3v5y:
I've got a set of mirrors (fast direct downloads) but you need to go via MoDaCo to get them. Registration is not required.

http://www.modaco.com/content/leo-leo-modaco-com/304481/leo-radio-roms/
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ephestione:
did you consider the possibility of having gotten a corrupted download?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] donalgodon:
Is there a general consensus on the comparison between 2.07.50.27_2 vs. 2.08.50.08_2 Radios?

Do you get the best battery life and signal on 2.07.50.27_2 or 2.08.50.08_2, generally speaking?

I thought I'd ask this question directly here, since it seems the most appropriate place to do so.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Elenion:
if i flash 2.08.50.08_2, need i to install any additional *.dll? or its already included?

there is dll's for all previous radio versions.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
i shouldnt worry about the dll for now. try the radios first, the dll seems to rarely make any difference.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
appelflap just posted the below thread about a new Radio

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=646755

2.09.51.03

Can we get it linked on the first page and some testing done by you eager tester beavers... :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Reason4444:
RS Link for new radio; :)

http://rapidshare.com/files/363583360/RADIO_2_09_51_03.rar

It does NOT compatible with TMOUS based roms & NOT support 576MB Ram !!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chimpsinties:
Can anyone confirm if the static noise is still present this this new 2.09 radio?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kayakrak:
i have this 2.09 installed and it is much better quality than 2.08, but there is still litlle noise in background, but as i say its much better

anyone tried this radio with 6.5.5. rom with 576 enabled? its possible to boot?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skycamefalling:
It's not booting with Miris v8 (WM6.5.5) more than one time.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
grey screen lock up at boot with mine, no red text, 2.09 radio on 576 rom based on 2.10
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] HTC-77:
What is the best Radio-Rom for German T-Mobile with Artemis 6.0?

Thanx
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] DORMIU:
Sternas recommends official HTC radios 2.06 and 2.07, however some users have tested the latest 2.09 radio and said it seems to work fine.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] florio1960:
Hello,

Does anybody know what the "W" at the end of protocol version 15.28.50.07W means. I'm asking this question because i see it is associated with radio version 2.05.51.05_2. It's on my stock 1.48 ROM. I have found my radio version in case i have to uninstall HSPL but it is only 15.28.50.07U. Thanks !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] axl30:
if you have enable/disable hspda change the U in W
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] michd2:
I tried the new radio and it is better, internet is faster and the soundquality of phonecalls is quite good aswell. But the only damn problem is that my phone is still losing its data-connection every now and than, end my phone still doesn't synchronize with my twitteracount, unless I've got a WIFI-connection...

Anyone having this same problem with his phone? Is there anybody with a solution for this problem?

I read about somebody who turned off HSDPA and configured his phone to synchronize every 4 hours, instead of every 10 minutes. That was his solution, because he didn't experienced any problems anymore. But why the hell would you be having a superfast phone and use a slow data-connection...it didn't sound like a solution to me.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Petulinek:
Im using radio 2.09 with Kumars Leo Premium 1.3. Sound, internet, wifi, everything is OK. I have no problems with twitter like you. Im using push mail with exchange, 3G HSDPA, all is OK.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] florio1960:
Thanks for your prompt answer !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
My theory is network stack resources and connections not being forced to close when they are completed.

I reckon that as your phone is used for different data apps, more and more connections are opened and there is likely a hard limit in the system registry somewhere that limits the total number of concurrent connections. Connections will idle out after time, but if you have a number of apps do a lot of regular updates and opening new connections instead of keeping the old ones alive or killing them off properly so they are freed up then the system will hit its limit and stop any new connections being made.

It would explain why when it was happening on mine putting the phone in flight mode didnt work as the OS would still have connections it was waiting to drop (ie. just because your home router drops its connection to the internet that wont stop your Windows OS from trying to open connections and therefore having resources in use) and also why a OS reboot would resolve the issue everytime without fail...

That guy who changed his refresh time for his data to 4hrs was effectively using a workaround to give the OS more time to make the resources available

Now if only we could find where this potential concurrent connections setting is located in the registry and modify it to say double?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] DORMIU:
Some users like you and me are experiencing this problem. You can read more about it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=643815

and

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=614119

So far no solution has been found (it might be a hardware problem?), but there are two workarounds:

- manually re-enable data connection everytime (pain in the ass!)

- disable HSDPA and keep a stable (but slower) 3G connection

I recommend you subscribe to the two threads listed above because if there is a solution, it will be posted there :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] michd2:
@ Dormiu & Starfury, thnx a lot for these posts, it explains a lot of the HD2's stupid behaviour. I noticed that the 2.06.*something* Radio is more stable than the 2.09...but the reception and speed of the 2.09 is better. I'll subscribe to the other threads and maybe we can find a solution to this problem...Maybe it is possible to create a program that kills all the programs using a data-connection going in to idle...wouldn't that be another solution for this problem?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
Its not the programs that are the problem, the program will request the OS to create the network socket for it to use its the OS thats not giving up the resources in a timely manner (if my theory is correct).

Disabling and Reenabling the data connection has never resolved the issue for me (but then if my theory of the OS having too many concurrent connections open is true then disconnecting the GSM/UMTS/WIFI and reconnecting it wont necessarily force the OS into terminating and closing all those previously open connections.

The fact that other people are having it on other WM6.5 handsets helps to prove it may well be an OS configuration thing...

But anyway this is going waaaay off-topic,
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] zeijlertje1:
Downloaded newst version :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mb:
2.09.51.03_2 Report

Been using for a couple of days now and it's excellent.

Down just 10% overnight (10pm to 7am) with 2G, 3hr weather download and Push Email running.

Phone call quality is good, loud and importantly without crackles.

3G/HSDPA reception is fast and reliable.

A keeper!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Nino_Z:
Hello guys i have a few questions about the Radios.

First of all can i install it over my Ship-Rom and will it delete or damage the rom and/or hard reset it?

Basically i don't like the way any of the cooked 557Mb Ram roms look so i am sticking to a standart firmware, but i would like to increase the Ram and eventually improve the way the phone works, but i just don't feel like installing all the programs and games again.

So my Rom Version is : 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE

My Radio is : 2.06.51.07

So any sudgestions to which Radio i should upgrade? (I kinda suck at this)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] rumpleforeskin:
unfortunatly you will need to flasha cooked rom to acces the extra memory, the radio alone cannot give you this. It is a combination of radio and 576 enabled ROM.

Also not you need to HSPL your device to flash the radio

If you like everything looking stock but just want extra AM plus a latest updated versions of the phone softeare you may be interested in dutty's HG rom
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
Why can't people read the <censored> instructions/manual/wiki/thread/forum?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] heavyhms:
yes: the old "RTFM" is ever the best suggestion :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Nino_Z:
I did see it and was interested, but Dutty's doesn't have the Weather widget and that one is just awesome.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Reedim:
Thank you! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] donalgodon:
I am not convinced that the static in calls is a universal issue, because I have personally not experienced it in migration from earlier ROMs (1.43 and 1.66 based) to a 2.10 based ROM. Not sure what the variables are, but for some reason, on my network, the call quality has been consistently clean, regardless of base ROM, without crackling that some others have noted.

There must be some explanation, but I don't know what it is.

I did, however note a definite and repeatable improvement in battery life when downgrading to the 2.07 Radio from the 2.08 version. Not sure why this is true for me and not everyone else, but again... I suspect that there are so many variables which one must account for in this that it would be virtually impossible to do so adequately. In my area, I only have EDGE, for example, and no 3G at all. Not sure if that has anything to do with it, but I do find it odd how many different experiences we all report using the identical (or similarly based at least) ROMs.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
Radio performance is different depending on which country you live in, where in that country you live and what carrier you are on.

In addition also your phone usage habits AND your movement habits as you roam between cell-towers.

This is why its almost impossible for a chart to be drawn up to say how good radio's are vs each other as literally ever user can have a different result and even the same user can have a different result dependent on what they do on the day they are testing it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gizmolisa2006:
quick one for UK users....im on Virgin Mobile, which radio have the UK users found to be the best battery / reception wise?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Incarniac:
I have found no noticeable difference between the various recent radios (tried 2.06, 2.07, and now on 2.08) both in terms of reception (very good) and battery usage (very good). Since Virgin Mobile UK uses the T-Mobile UK network you should be having similar experiences to anyone on the T-Mobile UK network (like me), but it may obviously depend on location and reception. At the end of the day only you will know which is best for you by trying each one for a few days and see how they work :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] TCMuffin:
FWIW - I'm in the UK on O2 and I've found that 2.08.50.08_2 is great on reception, clarity, and battery life.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alexandruvlad:
If anyone can help , i'm looking for 2.07.51.22_2 (official 1.66) - RADIO Rom

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Incarniac:
The reply to this post in this very thread is probably what you're looking for ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] SMS92:
Just to let anyone on o2 UK know that I'm currently testing 2.09.51.03_2 and have got a much bigger boost in reception. I'm in South East England.

I haven't discharged/charged yet, but off the bat the battery life seems a damn sight better than the rom before (i.e. I was 95% when I left the house yesterday at midday, after moderate use I was 0% by 7pm, ridiculous).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
Another candidate for:

"Why can't people read the <censored> instructions/manual/wiki/thread/forum?"

The post above yours (which happens to be mine) basically tells you that the only way you will know is if you test them out yourself because only you have your habits therefore your usage pattern will be unique to you...

<edit> just noticed your avatar is quite apt as well... :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Muscleboy:
there is a way to reset it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ephestione:
forgetting for a while how offtopic it is... what would be the way to reset the calltime counters?

Edit: nevermind, answered myself: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1575066&postcount=3

Don't intend to test it anyway :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gizmolisa2006:
yawn

insults on forums - lack of intelligence.

thxs everyone else for your advice.

:rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Shadowdh:
Excellent news, thanks... I am in the same area as you and same network... with 2.06 I have been getting a day or two (lately its more a day as usage has increased quite a lot)... will try 2.09 and see how it runs...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jimore19:
I have also installed the latest radio 2.09.51.03_2 on stock 1.66 rom on Vodafone UK

Noticeable improvement in signal reception and call quality actually seems better :)

Can't comment on battery life as of yet
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] SatScan:
LEO Dopod Radio V2.09 mrt-2010

MODS: delete this! thanks!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] axl30:
look this...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=646755
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] the_scotsman:
So what exactly is different about the "51" radios?

Couple of users of my ROM said they get static with every radio (which I do also), but with other ROMs they use 51 radio and it's clear. But for some reason 51 radios won't work with my ROM? :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jab1972:
Very disapointed !!!!!!

I don’t know about anybody else, but I am getting sick of the HD2’s audio call performance. I am on Vodafone UK (in south east England if that is important?) and have tried just about every radio on this forum.

My experience is that they all have loud static background noise (if you have the volume set to max which I do as I like it as loud as possible).

Most of the time, if the 3rd party is goes quiet, the static noise “pluses” on and off which is even more annoying.

I have tried various roms both the 576 roms, the non ones and the voda stock rom (the original and the newly realised one) and they are all the same.

I am now using Artemis HD2 v7.0 [WWE| so I can use the latest radio version 2.08.50.08_2 and still the background static noise is there.

I personally prefer EnergyROM’s but find it annoying that I can’t use this type of rom and the latest, so called better call quality radio rom with it!

I never had any call quality problems with my old HD1 (also on voda) and this is really annoying me as I use my phone as a phone a lot and it is important for me.

P.S, personally I have never noticed any radio version giving me better reception either i.e. getting a signal where it didn’t before!!!!

Is this common to Vodafone UK, or does anybody think that my handset is faulty?????

I think that I would have more chance of becoming prime minister than getting Vodafone to replace my handset because of static background noise!!!!

All in all I am getting very disappointed in my 1 month old HD2 and considering selling it!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] the_scotsman:
I've been playing with my new ROM (1.72 base) and the 2.09 radio and they seem to be working great together!

EDIT: Spoke too soon...When I soft reset, the phone freezes on the boot screen :(

Something is stopping the 51 radios from working.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RE795:
I too live in the South East England and have this same static background noise with my calls. What i have found though, is that using CleanEx roms with the 2.07.50.27_2 radio, I get a balance = the static noise is tolerable and the signal quality is good. Don't know if this will help?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] samsamuel:
I may be wrong but isn't because of the 576 hack?(in that the 51 radios don't support it)

the rom will be making calls to a radio that can't access the memory space.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] SMS92:
Hi mate, looks like we might be able to help each other out and perhaps half the time it takes to find a decent radio!

A few days on, I'd like to update by saying that the battery life has indeed improved, but by the looks of things only to the extent of perhaps getting me through the day (I've been able to top up in my car most days lately)

Unfortunately, though the 3g reception has definitely improved, I've been finding that the phone still drops onto 'G' and takes many minutes to come back to 3g again. This isn't as frequent as before, but definitely an issue. Sometimes it seems totally random, others, like last night, I rolled over in bed and it dropped to 'G' for about 10 minutes.

I'm in central Tunbridge Wells, where 3g is patchy. My old Hermes, my partner's Hermes and my o2 3g dongle can ALL constantly stay on 3g/hsdpa, though, in patchy places where my HD2 struggles.

In Tonbridge and Gillingham where 3g reception is again difficult to find consistently, the HD2 is falling short. In Gillingham it was quite hectically going from GPRS to EDGE then to 3g.

I'm about to have another trawl through this thread and see what else is recommended. I'll post back with any results.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] k.meel:
i moved recently from Dutty's rom with radio 2.05.... to TOM's rom with radio 2.08.50.08_2. pretty efficient configuration, but my bluetooth can not find my free-hand head set (jabra stone). earlier i didn't have any problems with that. hd2 have no problem with finding other phones or pdas. did anybody encounter such problems? thanks ;)

k.meel
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Qazz~:
How do you instal the radio? 2.09.51.03_2

did u just ran the RUU_Leo_dopod_CHS_Radio_2.09.51.03_2.exe ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ephestione:
quite large signature you got there :p maybe a resize would be in order :D

Anyway the only method to flash a radio of your choice is to install HSPL and use CustomRUU.exe as flashing utility, *check the tutorials*
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
It can also be flashed via the sd card. rename the radio rom file to LEOIMG.nbh and flash as for a rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ephestione:
yup, to be strictly technical customruu is not the *only* way, maybe just the easier ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Peew971:
Has anyone found a good Radio for UK T-Mobile? I'm in London.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] hijamir:
Hello Sir,

May i know why Radio 2.09 is not extracted and post at the front page as other Radio rom? Is it have any special requirement or needs to flash 2.09?

Trying to check but still cant find the answer and if someone know where i can find radio rom 2.09, hope can kindly suggest where to get it?

Thanks in advanced