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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ksingal:
Absolutely Brilliant

Hi Guys...

Just read through all 38 pages of posts on this project.....Have to say, its brilliant...not just the project, but the fact that you and your team are selflessly working on something that we are desperate for.

I just bought the HTC HD2 and have never been more disappointed with the apps available on Windows Marketplace....almost shameful...

I dont have any IT skills to help out, but just wanted to say that i'm greatful that people like you exist ...

when your project is up and running, I am very willing to make a small donation (sorry, am nowhere near being well off) as my contribution. I'm sure a LOT of people would be willing to do the same as well.

Thank you for your effort, time and dedication...!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lemonspeakers:
niw wors1212
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
Great work!! No worries about the green! :)

If you're bored again, don't hesitate mocking up something that could work for the web-site as well :)

I'm no designer, but I'll probably whip up something, and I like the style of your design. Simple, no fuzz, and large texts.

To Everyone: All suggestions and contributions will be appreciated! By contributions I'm talking about design-ideas, icons, and so on.

As soon as I have something workable, I'll publish it in open alpha-state on the web so you guys can try it out. I can't give any promises on estimates yet, but in a couple of days I should have a better idea of progress :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
It will be phone specific, but there will be no limitations regarding what phones will be supported.

You can for instance upload BSB Tweak, set the supported phone to be HTC HD2, and supported operating system to Windows Mobile, and even specify the general version of Windows Mobile (or several versions if it works for 6.0 and 6.5 for instance).

Users can set the appropriate phone-model and os their profile, and this will automatically filter all the apps based on these settings. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] redmanmark86:
oh wow, im getting way too excited about this because i cna just see this is going to sprawl a whole new life to windows mobile app development and if done right can so see this being more succesful than MarketPlace and i know there are plenty of applications i would donate towards, and games for that matter, Fspec comes to mind and infact you the creator yourself....

any chance of a skinnable app store :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] derScheich:
Thanks :) I would like to make the whole design part (at least for one skin) .. therfor it would be useful to have something like a sitemap, so that I know which information/navigation should be placed where. PM me so we can talk it out ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] anno65120:
Great idea

This is one great idea. I can see this phasing out every other appstore. One thing that has to come into consideration is that ther have to be room for both Windows Mobile and Android apps. It should also be possible to rate apps (with stars or something). If you need someone to test, I'm all ready:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
Any mobile platform will be available in this project (I've already made the database and service-layer, and this has been taken care of already :))

Rating is implemented and also commenting. I'm currently structuring my project with an issue/feature list, and will keep you guys updated as I progress.

I'll probably invite a select few for initial testing, but I have no thoughts on the amount or the selcting progress yet :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Exlo:
WOW guys! This is looking awsome already.

It`s not always easy to get an idea realized when you cant do so mutch about it yourself!

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
I mocked up an initial sitemap for you guys to take a look at.

Red dots indicate that login is required for that section and underlying pages.

Take a look and let me know what you think :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
I actually started this back in july 2009, but when Microsoft released Markedplace, I decided to put it on hold to see how that evolved.

Luckily it seems there is plenty of room for another Markedplace after testing the MS-version :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Recoda:
This sounds like a great idea! I would just love to see it up and running.

The uploader should input some information

It would be great if you could set minimum requirements for the application, such as minimum processor speed, ram, etc. Would also be great if you could select between resistive screen or capacitive screen, or both. As there are some programs which just wouldn't work for resistive screens (due to multi-touch). Should also be able to select a minimum resolution, maximum. It should also be possible to only select a specific phone model, if it was only created to work on that phone.

The user would be able to use automatic filters

The user would then just select the phone used, and the filter would only display the applications that work on the phones specification (Ram, processor speed, screen type, screen resolution etc.)

The user should also be able to filter depending on language

Should also be possible to filter the applications depending on language! I think that would be more important than some think. The creator of the application should be able to set if the languages available are English, German, Russian, Swedish, etc, and the user would then be able to only filter on Swedish applications and see that particular application as available.

This would be great for Caller ID applications, different keyboards and such. Please include it!

Would be awesome!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
Added to my issue/feature-list.

Great ideas! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Thuggie:
great idea! sounds really interesting :)

I would like to help out with this...I'm not any good when it comes to coding and stuff, but I can pay for domain name and hosting...

Probably help out with the design also

xda-store . com is available... what do y'all think?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rinobed:
+1

ready to collaborate!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
Thanks for the offer, but I've already got hosting set up at godaddy.com with SQL-server and all the tech-stuff I need for this to work out :)

As for the name, I propose a poll :)

When the name is decided, we'll need to get suggestions for logos as well.

I've been visiting this xda-developers for a while now, and I know for a fact that you guys are crazy good at designing stuff, so my bet is that this is gonna be kick ass :)

Also, when it comes to coding. I'd like to do the web and service-layer coding myself, but as I said earlier, I'll open up the API making it possible to make applications towards it really simple!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Thuggie:
Its good that you replied pretty quick, because I was only one click away from buying that domain name on godaddy now :P haha. yeah a poll would probably be best...the only problem is that someone could end up "stealing" the most popular domain before the poll is over.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vodnok:
Great idea...

If you need help or for testing i'm on.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xedahh:
Here's a website mockup - just an initial concept so I'd welcome any suggestions. Not everything discussed in this thread is implemented but it should work with the sitemap posted.

Obviously inspired by the HTC site, trying to make it seem like an open (and not manufacture specific) site though.

I'll send source files to those that request by PM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] redmanmark86:
i think even though we love XDA we should affiliate with XDA as the site creators have nothing to do with this project directly so its a bit unfair to associate with XDA as people will come here with every issue they have with something on the store, much better to give it it's own forum or with XDA permission ask them if they want to create a sub forum on here first and go from there???

im all for something like free-market, lol... says what it is on the tin, a free market??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tralal:
Absolutely love the idea :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Electzik:
(First sorry for my bad English)

I think, in order this project works well, keep the same system as microsoft marketplace in the big lines :

- Everybody can add an app but without paying anything (rather logical)

- But, before being able for users to download an app, it has to be checked by administrators (to kill risk of warez apps, or virus)

- 3rd parts apps can be added (for example apps linked to a website but non present on microsoft marketplace) and, on the website, to put forward a link to delete the application (if the author doesn't want his app figure on the xda-marketplace)

- Like microsoft marketplace show : description, comments, screenshots and config, but due to differences between phones, put forward speed processor and RAM and eventually differents links for differents screen resolution

- For the website i think of www.xda-marketplace.com and for the app : xda-Marketplace, and on this website, all the apps presents on the market.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Archer:
What the hell are you talking about? Stay off the thread if you've got nothing to contribute. (At least post on the correct thread, which you don't appear to have done!)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] haichuan:
It is hard to achieve.How to maintain the web and how to keep balance?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Xp3RiM3nT:
XDA-Marketplace

Hey guys, I am quite new here although I have been a lurker for a very long time.

I recently upgraded from a Samsung Omnia to a HTC HD2 so have made the switch kinda from modaco to xda forums for my information.

With regards to XDA-Marketplace, it is an awesome idea.

In fact I probably even have the back-end kind of software you are looking for too run the entire thing.

This is a project I have been working on for a long, long time:

url: sewiki .co.uk (cannot post urls due to new user restriction.)

There is also a mobile version of this site if you append "/?mobile=true" to the end of the address.

The site is developed in OOPHP and is valid XHTML and CSS ( the site has not really been tested fully yet and may still contain some bugs )

I am far more of a developer than a designer so the site does need a graphics overhaul, but the features are solid and are hopefully the kind of things users would expect from this sort of site.

I would be interested to hear from you about whether this would be useful to help speed up development of this idea?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Thuggie:
Can we get an update soon?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acky85:
Ah finally at the end of the thread. Wasnt the ending I was hoping for but good things come to those who wait.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] namelessrabbit:
Reading through the whole thread was a long journey but it was worth it :D

First, I just can repeat all the blessings and appreciations of the people who posted before me. This project surely is the most important, innovative and extensive yet.

As I share a lot of people's opinion about beneficiaries I'd like to offer my help in terms of translation. Since the page and the application as well are supposed to be used globally or at least multinational translation in different languages could be useful.

If I have read carefully enough through this thread translation of offered apps was dicussed but no translation of the What-Ever-Called-Marketplace.

Therefore: If you need translation into German, PM me, I'd be glad to contribute.

Edit: Even though consensus was that there will be no regionalisation I think we could adopt automatic language configuration like Amazon etc do it. For example if the viewer's IP is located in the UK the page is displayed in English. Accordingly German if located somewhere over here :D The app's language should be auto-configured by device's preferences, so that there is no need to download a specific language packet or version of it. This should increase ease of maintenance because language-files aren't big in terms of data size and therefore should be suitable to be directly integrated into one single installation cab.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
Hi!

I am trying to figure out the best way to make the site ready for future translation, but in the first instance it will be in english.

The best reason for this is that people from all over the world will (hopefully) upload and download applications. This leads to either

1. A huge amount of text to translate into alot of different languages

2. A site with all the main application descriptions and names in English, but all the primary content in different languages.

This - to me - sounds like a job not really worth doing.. At least not in the beginning...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] manimal666:
More and more people are adopting proxies and VPN services based in other countries for whatever reason, therefore, how would this work if someone was going through a proxy/vpn based in another country?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] namelessrabbit:
Yeah, of course that would complicate localization. But as I said one could implement it the way Amazon did. You suggest to display the page in a certain language and if it's not suitable for the viewer he will be able to change language with a click.

@yngvebn: What I was thinking about was the integration of the marketplace-app into the phone's appearance. In my perception it feels strange if you have to switch between diffferent languages on one phone (menu buttons etc). So maybe we could agree on having some kind of advantage in terms of comfort by providing the possibility to change at least the application's language?

The webpage of course would require a lot of cooperation with developers to provide translations themselves.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chichideadly15:
Sweet. It should be called "XDA X-perience" or something like that. XDA Marketplace is cool too. Or maybe, "XDA Headquarters", "XDA HQ" has a nice ring to it. I will be keeping an eye out for this. Hopefully it'll happen. Great Idea TC.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vikramdhani:
Well i like the idea of the market place but what i will really like to see if the native app for windows mobile for the forums like they have it on android
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Archer:
There is one. I believe it's still a work in progress, but there's a cab for it. Search the windows mobile software forum.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fin9ers:
Fantastic idea.

Look forward to trying it out when it comes :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JonFolse:
cant wait to see it :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] edengall:
Up !

It's gonna be great, but is it going to be downloadable..?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cjd198383:
WM Marketplace App

freewarepocketpc . net/omarket/ (Remove the spaces around the dot)

This is a free WM Marketplace. Are we trying to make whats already invented?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Archer:
Let's hope that the XDA-Marketplace will have a little more testing in place than openmarket. There's a LOT of disgruntled users who unintentionally recently made a lot of international calls after installing a virus-ridden game from openmarket. A valuable lesson to be learnt there!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] edengall:
Omarket is great but I hope XDA MArketplace will be even better..!

Does anyone knows when we can download it ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erebusting:
you cannot really compare XDA to OMarket, OMarket does not keep their apps as up to date -I found some apps on XDA with a newer version than the one which was on Omarket. Also - XDA has a bunch more stuff than just games and apps etc... it would include themes, mods etc as well (which Omarket does not have much of)...also it could be reinvented to be more efficient and customized to fit XDA's items etc etc....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acky85:
bump..........
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
hehe, don't worry ;)

To all you guys:

Remember that this is not an official XDA-developers marketplace. I am not affiliated with xda-developers, and (at least for the time being) this is a completely independent site.

The reasons for this are all very good and valid, so we'll just start off independent, and who knows, maybe we can make this work so good that it can be some sort of official site :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thulaniG:
im not into gaming that much,

but what was/is the name of said game

cheers.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Archer:
I can't remember the name. It was something about shooting terrorists though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thulaniG:
lol

cheeers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Archer:
It's in here somewhere mate...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=650393
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hus9416011:
yes we waitin for this big project
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sir Schwanzelot:
push

do you have an update for us?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] James16p:
cant wait!

I feel like a kid on Xmas eve waiting for this to come out. please keep us posted with the Updates and how we can help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] keith43:
Any kind of update of the project? :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] anrabi4:
If you need my services, I can translate almost anything in my native language, Romanian or in French, Spanish and German.

Great job, guys!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kokonaut:
bump

Great project!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JAYLO420:
Cant wait omarket sux alot of apps dont work . Hey is it also possible to add another program like winterboard for ur htc hd2 were ur able to have all ur clocks and themes in one place and can change theme simply by apply and save instead of reinstalling and uninstalling each single .cab theme???? That plus the xda marketplace would be cryptonite for all other smart phones. The reason why microsoft has such a ****ty marketplace is because they charge developers a **** load of money to put out there apps and then charge a lot for something as pathetic as a dog whistle. When will people know its just like the sega dreamcast great hard ware crappy software
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dexteral:
+1 Vote, it'll be brilliant :D:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Thijs96:
Any news?

Are there any updates on this?

Already a setup of the site and the app, maybe some working mock-ups/alphas/betas/dummies?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] arizmin:
excellent idea... fully support this. Add preview images, OS version supported as well as the users experience/ review. Awesome as this surely beat another 2 already available marketplace...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
Not quite there yet, but it's starting to look more and more like the screenshot that's out on www.xda-downloads.com :)

Sorry it's taking so long, but that's how it is when it's gonna be great! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Thijs96:
And the app?

Great!

And what's the app going to look like?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] elliott1210:
I just want to say this looks fantastic. I know your not doing this for the money, but I will def donate when this is done. This will be such a time saver, and help really bring to light the potential of windows mobile for those who aren't aware of xda.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mcmasterp:
+1

Will be donating to the dev of this app for sure! I have always wanted this
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ProjektFuze:
hmm.. if i was browsing on my old fuze.. then yea.. this cab would be a great addition... but now i'm on my hd2... and browsing with it.. is splendid.. so i'm not sure what the big fuss is about..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
it's not just an app/cab, you can browse as much as you want when the site is online too ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] malias4:
i think its gonna be really good. i know it takes time but at the end u will be hapy with the results.. good job man:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
Thanks for the support! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] adaduk:
Deffo a beer or two coming from me when this badboy is up and running!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alfaspyke:
Wow. I just recently discovered this thread.

(By the link in yngvebn's sig actually.)

This thread was a long read, but definately worth the time.

To the developers: I am amazed and in awe on what your guys are doing here.

The need for such a service is definately present.

Hopefully your project comes to fruition soon.

I am looking forward to "opening day" and have added the xda-downloads to my bookmarks.

Keep up the good work!

A couple of beers are coming your way!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chris2busy:
Same gonna happen from me as well .
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] j03:
Great Idea. I feel that most of the app's on the Marketplace/OMarket are made for older phones, and do not totally exploit the HD2's power/features.

Of course, this marketplace would not just be for the HD2 - but I think that it would broaden the repituar "swankier" applications.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chris2busy:
Any news on this yngvebn ?

Its so far the most anticipated project over here :D at for me !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jamieeeee:
i think it'll be pretty dead when it reaches him :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] yngvebn:
if it's a guinness it's okay ;)

Turns out, this project is a tiny bit bigger than I first anticipated. But I can assure you I'm working on it constantly. I put down 8 hours programming yesterday, and remember that's after 8 hours of my day-job first :)

I actually finished a pretty huge part of the site last night. The tag-system. This not only decides how applications are organized, but it's also part of the specifications that make up a "Phone" in the site.

So far (for obvious reasons) I've only added a few phones, like the X10, HD2, Desire and Omnia i8000 II will a full list of specifications. And here's how this will work out for the developers and users:

When you adds an app, you will be presented with the project page. On this page you can choose to simply say "I've tested this app on [phone x] [phone y] etc", and the site will then comprise a list of specifications that applies to that phone (or the applies to both).

For users browsing apps, this app will now turn up as tested on "Phone x" and "Phone y".

If you as a dev wishes, you can choose to remove certain specs that are not required for your app. So let's say you developed some Geo-tagging app that requires GPS:

Phone X has the specs: Camera, Proximity Sensor, GPS

Phone Y has the specs: Camera, G-Sensor, GPS

You will then be able to choose between the two requirements "Camera" and "GPS" since they are shared between X and Y.

Why?

Back to the user:

The App will now appear as Tested on Phone X and Phone Y, and also as Compatible with any phone that has GPS (and of course is on the correct OS-version)

Each project can also contain several releases pointing to different resolutions, OSs and screentypes (non-touch/touch).

A setting on your User-profile page (and overridable in the browse/list section) - Filter projects based on my phone(s) - will enable you to select one or more phones that you own, and only projects compatible or tested on your phone(s) will appear in the search-results.

Also, I finished implementing reviews, commenting and rating in a way that enables me to hook these features to anything on the site. A user might have a separate rating, a project will of course have its rating, and it even enables me to add it to phones. Who knows, maybe this site will grow into a full repository with reviews and comments on phones, and (hopefully) a rich supply of apps, games and themes.

So, as you might (or not) realize, these are pretty complex implementations - but the good news is I've found easy reusable methods of implementing new functionality, and I've comprised myself a list of features that are "must-have" for a beta-release, and I'm eating away at it.

Even though this thread might go quiet from me at times, it doesn't mean I'm not working.. Actually the opposite ;)

Thanks for believing in this project.

Comments like that, motivates me to prove you wrong, jamieeeee ;)