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[HD2 General] gargon01:
Battery Guard Readings?

Hi Guys,

I started a thread about this then I saw this one so I thought I'd ask here. I've been suffering from very severe battery run-down over the last few days. My battery lasts about 14 hours before it hits about 30%! I've got quite a few reg-tweaks and apps running and, as I have the phone running exactly how I like it, I'm trying to work out what could be causing the drain rather than doing a hard reset and starting again.

I'm using Battery Guard which is excellent but I'm a little unsure what a good initial reading is? When I start the program and the Draining/Charging bar settles (the program usually opens at 170mA or so) I get a stable reading of about 55-60mA. Is this too much or not? I'm pretty new to this program and doing some searches but I just though I'd ask in the forum if anyone else is using this program and, if so, what kind of reading they are getting? Any info would be very helpful.

Thanks in advance
[HD2 General] precsmo:
I've had good experience with Touch HD. And with my HD2, I turn absolutely almost everything on inclusive using messengers, surf nets, emailing and so on, most auto updates are turned to on. And the fact is that HD2 no doubt suck out battery scary fast! I would roughly claim it to be about 30% even less efficient to Touch HD. I absolutely need 2 batteries for sure daily! Yes, daily, and I need the 3rd for backup! But I really don't mind about carrying more batteries, I've been use to it, and HD2 starts up way faster than any phone, I love it! Really love it!
[HD2 General] leobox1:
i love it too but i really feel unsecured about the batt.. am wondering is the screen brightness affecting it too... i noticed the auto dimmer is a little too bright...

i am afraid lumous etc may not work properly
[HD2 General] chongbh:
Hi,

I have turn off all the Weather update, email checking to OFF and I have one program which is running on the background.

Does that contribute to the draining of battery?

Below is the situation :

1) Phone charge to 100% as of 7:30am

2) Phone connected to Car Bluetooth HU at 8am

3) Received SMS at 9am

4) Battery at 83% as of 10:10am

Is that normal?
[HD2 General] leobox1:
hmmmmmmm

i did some "Test"

watching around 13 minutes of internet streaming video VIA 3G

drains 10% !!!! of the battery.

100 % = 130 minutes only? isnt 2 hours short
[HD2 General] dr.melle:
in my experience, my battery lasts about 24h after a full charge. i'm usually connected to 3g internet 24/7, have msn on during the day as well as opera with ~2 tabs open, sometimes with the screen on for several hours. and some other apps i need during the day, sometimes,some music. for this heavy use i consider this pretty good battery life, i have a cable for charging at home, work, in my car...

my old glofiish x500+ did about 5hours with the same (ab)use, in its better battey days, after 2 years this went down to 2hours on good days when the wind was right.
[HD2 General] lovebell:
I don't mind if it drains much while I am using it, the point is mine drains too much in standby mode, flight on, micro sd unpluged, 100% before sleep, wake up (7-8hours)showing 70%-65%.Hard-rest, flashing rom wouldn't change a thing.

Considering send to repair , due to this is my first time deal with HTC custom service, are they positive? I 'd like to hear your experience, I appreciate it.
[HD2 General] tabackd:
Solution

I found that Microsoft my phone kills the batt

I have set my active sync to every 5 min

I have turned off HSDPA in phone settings under advanced

also the GPS seems to kill it so I try keep it unused.

I am getting +- 14 hours of hard use.
[HD2 General] leobox1:
i will try lumos to minimize the brightness
[HD2 General] adell_:
For me using the Airplane mode overnight helps quite a lot.
[HD2 General] cugel:
My two cents .....

I had problems with battery life (about 5% loss each hour without activity), after uninstalling WMLongLife application (ironic) i'm back to 1% each hour.

Today my battery has decreased 30% after 12 hours of medium usage.
[HD2 General] gargon01:
Really? Can anyone else confirm this? I use that program and think that it's genius but if it causes these problems then I guess I'll have to remove it:mad:
[HD2 General] leobox1:
hmm any idea what program is this? longlife seems to work opposite !

BTW lumos does not help much... main prob is the 3G network ...

i watched videos on youtube.. 1% gives 1 min + of video.
[HD2 General] leobox1:
ok saw it.. it is one of the programs developed here.. did not install that so i am alone..

100% 16 hours ago. Now, 40%
[HD2 General] leobox1:
dont you folks feel there is something very wrong? :

Power & Battery1

Battery type: Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery

Capacity: 1230 mAh

Talk time:

WCDMA: Up to 320 mins

GSM: Up to 380 mins

Standby time:

WCDMA: Up to 390 hours

GSM: Up to 490 hours

Video playback Up to 8 hours

Audio playback: Up to 12 hours
[HD2 General] leobox1:
heard from another thread that the latest HD2 update of "sim contacts" is actually a radio update lol... and seems to improve batt. any brave soul ? heehee

From the thread :

"The radio version is the same as rom 1.61. Battery life of rom 1.61 is a lot better than the 1.48 version."
[HD2 General] co2-guy:
Go longer, get further, jump higher.

Don't know if anyone allready wrote this but...

Just disable HTC Sense and you get at least 40% battery improvement.

Just use the WM standard screen instead...
[HD2 General] leobox1:
hmmm HTC sense is part of what HD2 is all about Lol :P
[HD2 General] co2-guy:
I agree... I sure hope HTC will fix their battery/cpu usage soon.

But till then it's actually not that bad without sense. It still uses their programs like HTC-sms, album etc. plus you get a faster responding phone...
[HD2 General] leobox1:
i will install the fix tonight from htc and see if it improves my 1% for 1min+ of youtube video on 3G lol
[HD2 General] nitrate:
for me too

Anyway... does anyone know which micro SD-cards don't use much battery power?

I got a SanDisk 16GB microSDHC in my HD2 and it has only 4GB of free space left.

I used my device last night at work. After 8 hours the battery power was drained while listening to music and surfing the web (on EDGE, GPRS and HSDPA).

Thanks in advance.
[HD2 General] leobox1:
why will micro sd cause battery drain ? i want to understand ...
[HD2 General] pino.rbk:
Yesterday 10:00 PM - 100% Bat. Then all appl. turned off and switched to the Airplanemode. No Data, No BT, No WiFi. I don't have G-Alarm! I didn't touched the phone till 7:00 AM Today and Bat = 76% :mad: without work. At 4:00 PM after some calls (20 min.) and 10-15 SMS I've only 31%!!!

No Data, No WiFi, No BT!!!

I've Kingston 4GB micro SDHC, ROM: 1.48.479.1, Radio 2.05.51.05_2

I'am waiting for a new 16GB SDHC. I'll see, if it helps.
[HD2 General] nitrate:
Someone else in this topic wrote that some specific microSDHC cards would cause a faster battery drain than others. So i'd like to know what cards don't do that.
[HD2 General] Bib_x:
Anybody knows where i can get a tool to log my battery drain? Isn´t there a tool called "bat log"? Cant find it.
[HD2 General] cgeboers:
Radio update needed ?

I also had about 30% drain during the night, even after a warm reset with no programs active besides the phone, until I installed the " Update for HTC HD2 SIM Contacts".

I don't know what it actually did, but from reading the forum I understand it is also a radio update.

After the upgrade my HD2 will only discharge 3-5% over night.

It might not work for everybody, but it is worth a try. The upgrade is non-destructive, despite of what it says, it does not wipe your data at all.
[HD2 General] bel_z_bub:
If you'd ask me, I'd say it will only drain battery while written to or read from it and I would think a faster card would use less power as it takes less time for the operation.

anyway I have a 16gb sandisk and have no troubles, I've set storage to sd for every setting I could find..

the battery will get better over time.. I can use it for two days now. normal usage.. don't charge it too much but let it drain untill the warning (or more) and charge fully the first week.
[HD2 General] Bariša:
Standby

I have a 16gb sandisk and last night put it out from phone to see if it affects on battery but nothing changed.

I have a problem with standby mode. Even if I turn off every data connections, wifi, bluetooth, 3g, weather, locations, my battery drains exactly 3% per hour. I installed new radio update but drain percentage keeps to be the same. I tried with Bsb tweaks to save the power but nothing. Standby mode is killing me. The only time when battery loses a little is in flight mode but I dont have too much of that option.
[HD2 General] nitrate:
Well, maybe my battery drains fast, when i'm listening to music. Because if i do so, my battery (which was fully loaded before) would be empty within 5 hours after continuous listening to music. Is it possible that the operation of the equalizer needs alot of power? I have it enabled.
[HD2 General] RichardC:
I don't think anyone has mentioned that phone signal strength might badly affect power consumption. I read a long article about a year ago which basically said that if the phone has a strong signal it greatly reducing the transmission power to the cell. I can see my cell mast which is about 2 miles away. The phone was fully charged nearly 18 hours ago, it's had light use with a few texts etc. and it's used 11% of the battery.

Just a thought.
[HD2 General] nitrate:
Strange... after playing around with my HD2 i almost lost 4% of battery power...

This can't be normal!
[HD2 General] bel_z_bub:
while listening to music it's reading from the sd.. but again, I use listen to music quite a lot and was quite happy with the battery consumage.. what brand of sd card are you using?

eq? I haven't found the equalizer yet, is that maybe a part of audio booster? audio booster doesn't work with bluetooth stereo headsets so I haven't tried it yet. I'll try with wired headphones later and report if the drainage is worse..! But I doubt if the eq will consume more then the bluetooth stereo streaming..

some large headphones also drain battery..
[HD2 General] peterge:
Battery HD2 Leo

I do not understand English and I am translating a text in Google Translate for what it is sorry
[HD2 General] peterge:
Battery HD2 Leo

I do not understand English and I am translating a text in Google Translate for what it is sorry

Hello, I had a problem with battery discharge per night (approx 11 hours) to minus -44%.

... ......... So I tried several ways to determine what are the battery so it consumes.

Anyway now I use for 12 hours minus 6%. Of course, talk about the battery consumption during the evening + night when the phone is in use. I personally do not give your phone into airplane mode.

1. - I uninstalled G-Alarm 2.3 complete with the phone registers.

RESULT less - 18% of the battery over 2 hours. (so G-Alarm is not!)

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2. - I chose the memory card

RESULT less - 2% of batteries for 2 hours. (so that certainly is a problem somewhere with a memory card!)

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3. - I made a HARD RESET and format my memory card (was empty).

RESULT minus - 1% of the battery over 2 hours. (so that certainly is a problem somewhere in memory

card!)

Now I'm gradually installed everything needed (list attached below), but beware the phone (! NOT on the memory card!) All terms and battery consumption is OK. Warning do not forget to turn off in settings - Wireless controls - data connection (switch on automatically and is only visible to 2 icon next to the left of the battery).

And my view is that the problem which is also a discussion on XDA about G-alarm and post-consumption battery is likely that you set the alarm melody which is the memory card (also logical to me) and there exists the problem. For me the problem was that I used and also using S2U2, where I had set as the background graphics file with about 100 pictures which rotovali, which was imposed on the memory card of course.

So my advice to you is proven - if you install the Lea anything that is permanently turned on (ie napr.S2U2 resp.G-Alarm) is not good if the path to either music or pictures on the memory card. I have the opportunity to try it on another HD2 so on mine and it has helped others to try can help you.

I have installed: SK Tools, S2P, S2V, S2U2, Core player, Total Commander, Inesoft Phone, Net Frameworks, G-Alarm, Vito Audio Notes, 10beta Opera Mobile, Pocket Mechanic, Pocket RAR, beemer cert HD2 + Tweek Bord http : / / wmmania.cz / forum / viewtopic.php? t = 34251 č.112, 23,24,27,33,36,4,63,70,74,78,79,8,80,90,17, 28.29.

HTC HD2

version of OS 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)

Manila version 2.5.19211619.0

ROM1.48.479.1 version (71294) WWE

Radio 2.05.51.05_2

Slovak localization

operator Orange

SDHC memory cards 8 gigabytes
[HD2 General] GeitjeG:
I sometimes experience a battery drain, still do not know the cause. But it solves with one or two soft resets...
[HD2 General] leobox1:
i concluded, hd2 EATS battery..

i simply charge daily at least sigh
[HD2 General] wookashpyka:
Thanks, peterge. I'm going to use you're advice, since it seems our devices are set up similarily. I'm just waiting for the 1.66 east europe rom.

At the moment, it's pretty horrible in my case. Rom 1.48 in Airplane Mode today from 9:15 to 10:37 from 100% to 86%.

Edit:

It's 12:50 and I'm at 67%, still in Airplane Mode. That's crazy!!!
[HD2 General] blackb1ade:
I'm sure prior suggestions are also very useful but just one other to mention.

I was talking to a guy on Sunday who also had an HD2 and spotted mine - he specifically asked about battery useage - apparently he was a little frustated as his was dying in much less than one day.

What he did reveal (that I suspect is the culprit) is that, one of his email accounts is set to synch 'every 5 minutes'.

My most 'regular' email is only set to every 30 minutes - (but really as I have no need to have email to my phone more reguarly than that)

So - check you email settings as well, to see how regularly you have them set to synch - I suspect that KILLS battery.

Just a thought.
[HD2 General] wookashpyka:
Now it's 18:37 and I'm down to 10%. 90% battery drain in 9 hours and 20 minutes in Airplane Mode!!! During this time, I've only checked the battery status a couple of times (haven't used the phone all day:). All connections, all auto-updates, all auto-syncs are off. The only non-standard processess in the background are WMLongLife, AEButton Plus, Showcase task manager, G-Alarm.

Next time I'll try to change the alarm and wallpaper to files not located on my sd card, perhaps that will help. I'll report back.

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Edit 1 : I've relocated all the stuff to internal memory. I've just had a 50 min call on speakerphone and lost only 2%. More to come.

Edit 2: From 3:00 (a.m.) till 12:51, again in airplane mode, it went down ONLY 4% !!! So it seems that IT IS REALLY THE MICROSD THAT CONSUMES ALL THE BATTERY!
[HD2 General] emsee:
HD2 battery Life

I'm using a stock Telstra unit - it came with a 16GB microSD card.

I've installed about 50 programs and made about 25 Registry changes.

I'm using my HD2 for business so about 90 minutes of outgoing calls a day and about 130 minutes of incoming. I manually check my emails about every 2 hours. I have blue tooth and WiFi off until I need them - I probably use my wifi for 2/3 hours per night and Bluetooth for 1 hour a day.

I surf the net for 2 hours a day average

I've got the weather update set to manual but check it spasmodically.

I don't use Flight mode [unless i'm on a flight].

I'm getting 44 to 50 hours out of a battery.

If it's the MicroSd that's causing the battery drain, I's say it's a faulty card not the fault of all cards - try changing cards!!

cheers

emmsee
[HD2 General] leobox1:
u mean a constant read on the SD card cause drain? hmmm interesting
[HD2 General] geekyhawkes:
Maybe its just me, but the fact we are even talking about switching off sense, having overnight flight mode or reducing email sync (to a near useless for some) 30mins mean HTC have a problem?

I love the phone, but I am sick of getting home each night and putting it on charge for 15mins so it lasts until i go to bed. I havent even played any games as the battery is always too flat and thats bound to kill it.
[HD2 General] ephestione:
I experienced two things:

1) Higher-than-1%-per-hour (more like 2%) battery usage in simple GSM mode (3g disabled) from this morning.

2) Accelerated battery usage when charge is low (from 25% to 10% in a few hours while doing nothing but checking, once ina while, the battery icon from the lock screen and turning off display right away)

I also have installed Taskmanager by FDCsoft , which I suggest to you all, to check which processes are running, how much ram they eat, and especially how much CPU. In my case, there's nothing really to hinder on the cpu that justifies the battery usage, apart from GSM connection obviously. Didn't try pulling the microsd out, but it's the standard 2gb one, I'm still waiting for the sandisk 16gb from china (hoping it's the real thing :P)
[HD2 General] adchesney:
I have just purchased two additional batteries, a desktop charger and becuase the screen is useless for text input, I have bluetooth keyboard.

So all in all - I have about as much weight as my netbook.

That said I still like my HD2 - I must be mad :-)

ADC (Yateley, UK)
[HD2 General] wookashpyka:
It seems it's the card. At this moment, flight mode since 3a.m. (after 19hrs) the device is at 94%. I'm returning to the previous wallpaper settings, I'll see if it makes the difference.

Edit:

I've returned to my previous settings with wallpaper, lockscreen background and g-alarm melody set up on the SD card and... After 14 hours of normal use (no flight mode) the battery went down only from 94% to 70%, which I find pretty decent. That doesn't really comply with the sd card theory, does it? But what else, then? Did the soft reset I performed make all the difference? Cause that would be even more strange than the sd vard theory... I'll do further testing.
[General Topics] aaron11193:
Hi, for a while now I've just been putting up with it, but recently as I've been sending and receiving pictures for nitro car parts and stuff and it's become such a pain in the ass as I have to soft reset to stop the phone from constantly connecting to telstra.mms and trying to send a non-existent MMS every 7 seconds. I know a hard reset would fix it but I really don't feel like setting up the phone all over again and if I backup it would backup whatever is causing the problem too most likely :mad:

EDIT: I forgot to mention that it happens whenever I do anything that has anything to do with MMS, like creating a new MMS to put pictures into, or pressing send via MMS after I take a picture.

Has anyone had this happen before?

Any help very much appreciated.

Aaron.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] larsoss:
hello.

i have a quistion about the original htc diamond rom.

is it possible to use my gps position in the weather tab? with a cab file or something? i like this from custom made roms.. but it's not a option in the original rom.

sorry for my bad english.

thnks anyway.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] sanka@autocourt.net:
What is a good value (REG_DWORD) for reducing the amount of Finger Pressure required to use the touch screen.

I have set the FingerPressure Value to 217840 in the registry (REG_DWORD) and I do not feel much of difference from the default value of 10892.

Is there any other registry to edit to adjust the Finger pressure?

Basically I want to use less finger pressure to use my Touch HD, make it feel a bit like my wife's iPhone!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dwizzy130:
Install this. It cranks the values to the highest they can go.

dwizzy130
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] HJ200:
As far as I can remember, you can also adjust the sensitivity using HD Tweak
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] blc4:
I don't feel any difference,to me it's the same as it was :(
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dwizzy130:
Well all my cab did was crank the values to what was considered ultra sensitive in HD tweak and Advanced Config.

dwizzy130
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Lizzo:
I've tried to flash 3 different custom roms an for some reason, my phone just won't flash!...the furthest i've gotten to was 66% and that was when i tried to flash touch-it1.2....

can someone please provide some assistance?:(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] lithium1977:
may be u r using rom 1.61

so try to flash the original rom 1.48 first then try again

i hope this could help you
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ajhuddy:
I have successfully installed amon-ra's rom on my rogers' 32a magic device (also using his recovery image).

I have tried countless ways to install the cyanogen rom (followed all instructions on wiki), but I can never get past the rogers boot screen.

Any ideas what could be causing this? Do I need to be using the cyanogen recovery image too? If so, when I flash that recovery image, I can not seem to get into it (home+power).

Thanks for the help...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] oshizzle1991:
what are the steps you are following. are you flashing the custom recovery before you flash cyanogen like it says to in the wiki?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ajhuddy:
Hey, thanks for the quick reply.

In the recovery bootup, I am

flashing : DRC83_base_defanged.zip

then flashing: update-cm-4.2.10.1-signed.zip

I have also tried the various 'wipe' options that are in the recovery menu, but nothing has made a difference. I have read that you should wait a while for it to boot, but how long is long? After about 15 mins, I give up.

I have followed the instructions on:

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod

The ION rom takes not time at all to successfully boot after flashing.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone:
You flash the base, the rom, then the port file.

You did everything correctly except you didn't flash the latest 32A port. You basically flashed 32B Cyanogen which obviously won't work and will hang at a black screen.

Flash the 32A port.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ajhuddy:
Got it! Flashed the third file, and I now see the funky cyanogen logo booting up.

So...shouldn't the cyanogen wiki be updated to mention this third file that needs to be flashed?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] NguyenHuu:
the "third" file is a port file created by third party (bcrook/radix) and it is unsupported by cyanogen that why it isnt inlcuded on the wiki (the wiki is part of cyan's official site).
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ajhuddy:
Fair enough. So it's all up and running now.

Couple questions:

I used the latest CM rom posted (update-cm-4.2.11-signed), but notice that in 'About phone', the 'Mod Version' is listed as 4.2.4 - is this expected?

Also, will I be able to use the CMUpdater utility, or must I always apply a new CM rom through recovery mode, and do the 3-step flash as before?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Kidmet:
Ok, here is my problem... And I will try to get pics tomorrow. But, I have a cracked screen, sort of... Definite crack... Touch Screen works perfectly... LCD is not damaged... What part of the phone is cracked? And can I get this replaced without paying the $100 deductible?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] calimove:
it is your digitizer and depends on the carrier..if you have tMo go luck...all others you can buy the digitizer but installation is a whole other ball of wax. you best know what you are doing to swap it. you can buy the digitizer on fleabay for about 35 bucks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rjh1:
how can it be the digitizer???? his touch screen works! I have no idea what is cracked if both the display and touch screen works

Rick
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] whiteblazer01:
post up some pics? :)