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[HD2 General] djngal:
WHAAAAT! :eek: r u using this baby in your bath tub?????

I'd never let this baby not even near humid environment!! once I was out and it was snowing and my friends wanted me to take some pics of them and I just turned them down because I didn't want snow to get in this precious screen... :p

I use my old n95 to listen to music to the bath tub for which I don't care about its well-being anymore... lol :D
[HD2 General] Archer:
This has only ever happened to me when it's very cold. Were you outside at the time?
[HD2 General] dgtel2:
Looks like HD2 is not "condensation-proof"
[HD2 General] Spawn32:
Hahaha, cool, then i can taker her (HD2) to the jacuzzi :D
[HD2 General] Chrlz:
Installed the sensitivity .cab, seems ok for now... the lowest temperature here is around 11c'. I don't think it's related.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dinik:
like the title says...if you feel like me...just vot for it...and i hope the moderator gona make one.

i think it would be nice if we had a Sticky thread for icons...there gona be links and preview of icons to all post with sets of icons like mine set.

so what do you think?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Toss3:
Definitely a good idea! Especially considering the many many useless threads that get created each day. Love your icons btw. :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Rumble6059:
I'll vote for that! :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] espaleena:
+1 Vote for all icon packs to be compile into a single thread & always updated.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dick turpin:
me too would like this, also slider tab icons.:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mskip:
I will create a sticky later today with a section for icon sets, a section for taskbar mods, a section for themes and a section for general screen mods. If anyone can help with ideas or links to any of the threads then post them here and I will compile them.

I will start with a simple Title and link with maybe a screenshot and see how it goes from there. I was looking into doing this anyway as its soo hard to find what you are looking for in here as soo many new threads are created every day.

Any help is welcomed :)

Mark.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jooyyy:
+1 It's very kind of you.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mskip:
Stickie created in Themes and Apps section to pull everything together.

I have put some of you in there already but if you have anything else you want to go in then post a link in that thread and I will add it to the relevent sections.

Hope it makes things alot more ordered and easier for everyone to find.

Thread is *HERE*

Mark.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dinik:
very nice :cool:
[General Questions and Answers] [★]:
(Leo youtube app, not sure if its the same)

So yeah my 512mb of ROM is getting pretty full with me installing loads new apps. I went onto the youtube app and as soon as I load it up I get an error message saying Warning storage is full and when I tap ok, the program closes so I dont get the chance to change the storage settings to my memory card (if thats the problem) So I deleted some temporary files in the youtubes program folder and I even uninstalled a few apps but I still get that problem...

any ideas on what to do?:(
[General Questions and Answers] kavish:
I'm experiencing the same kind of problem, with the same message only in dutch: "opslag is vol".. I haven't found a solution jet..

But i have it since a day, and i have plenty of memory available on my Leo..

I'm on stock 1.48 rom...

I'd hate to hard reset my phone :S.. But if i can't figure it out is a good start a nice cooked rom mabye :D
[General Questions and Answers] marctown78:
go to file explorer/windows/youtube. there should be a lot of files there. delete those and it should work. i had the same problem and after i deleted those files, its working again.
[General Questions and Answers] godsimon:
Yes marctown78, i did what you said and it works, thank you very much. btw, i did not delete them one by one. I use "select all", which include those "favorite" and "channel" folders, and deleted them all. and the youtube still works fine.
[General Questions and Answers] godsimon:
btw, you mentioned you can "change the storage settings to my memory card", how exactly can you do it? I tried but seems there is no such setting in youtube.
[General Questions and Answers] epica:
I also deleted everything (including the favourite, search, history and channel) folders and still I am getting the warning!
[General Questions and Answers] ibsuk:
I'm still having the same problem with my HD 2. Have followed the above steps but no joy. any other suggestions? thanks in advance.
[General Questions and Answers] djchubbs:
i used to get this, i used the cleanram program to clear down any unneeded processes and woulod fix the issue, i have a schedule set up which runs the cleanram program every day and havent had the issue since.
[General Questions and Answers] ibsuk:
Cheers. I did try this but it didn't seem to work straight off.

For some reason it is now functioning again.
[General Questions and Answers] kikill:
had that problem too but it is storage memory not program memory u have to have about 10mb of free space available for youtube to run kinda strange though but thats what I figure out, what I do is install the apps that I like on memory card and the ones that r essential to phone memory so I have more free space.

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[General Questions and Answers] smilgard:
I deleted everything (including the favourite, search, history and channel) folders. I installed "Cleanram" and made a 3rd level clean but I am still getting the warning!
[General Questions and Answers] eastjavaman:
It's working again, thanks to Kikill

Thanks Kikill, I tried to delete inside youtube folder only; it does not work(I only have 7mb left in my device, 6mb before the deletion inside youtube folder), it TURNS OUT as per your suggestion, we need extra space.

The day before my youtube was working, and I downloaded some movies that were stored in my device, and suddenly my youtube is not working; thus, I clean up my other folders as well and get around 60mb back and this time it is back to normal.
[General Questions and Answers] cougal96:
I tried this also but there is no option in youtube, I've looked through the registry and can only find in

HKLM-SOFTWARE-HTC-YOUTUBE-TempFileLocation

but don't know what to do from there, can someone enlighten me?

thanks in advance!
[General Questions and Answers] GLO:
Im getting this error on my wifes HD2

Any real solution yet
[General Questions and Answers] hkcharlie:
storage is full

same problem!

Like an idiot, I did exactly like was suggested (deleted everything in the Youtube folder, without backup) and it still doesn't work.

Anyone else have any ideas?
[General Questions and Answers] rustamg:
same problem

same problem. Although i use cleanram regulary but still get the problem .
[General Questions and Answers] Nelsolar:
Youtube app Does not open storage is full

Well i recently have this problem on my HD2, after some testing i found that the app needs 10mb of free space on device storage to run, if you have less you will get the error.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] BBE:
I have spb mobile shell 3.5 on my TP2, and when I click on the sms messages widget on my lifestyle screen it opens up the little conversation bubble windows of your messages instead of the regular windows mobile messaging program. So I'm wondering an you re map the "messaging" button on the slide out keyboard on the TP2 to bring up THAT screen instead of the standard windows mobile messaging program?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Bombenbach:
Try this app:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=554240
[HD2 General] karaern:
when i listen music for about 30 mins + and running some programs such as adobe reader or opera, i can feel a warm in my hands from the battery. actually its more like to be said a relatively high heat felt by my hands !?

is this high battery heat normal? i mean for an everyday usage.

tnx in advance

Note: i did search but didnt find anything about LEO battery heating.
[HD2 General] Archer:
The battery can sometimes get quite warm, but it should never be hot. If it heats up to much you should probably get it looked at.

The battery in the HD was a lot worse than this. I think there may have been some issues, but HTC have worked on it. Thankfully, I don't know of any HTC phones exploding anywhere yet! lol
[HD2 General] djngal:
mine gets hot as well some times especially when I use igo in my car and charge the phone at the same time but also when playing a game etc.. but I read in the manual that this is normal... although I believe heat to an extent that can burn your hand its not normal.... mine never got that hold :)

just my 2 cents
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
Hello,

If you are using something like Opera, coupled with a number of applications that are cpu intensive, then you are going to get high battery drain which equals high heat output. Some of the heat will be coming off the cpu as well but the end result is the same.

The problem is worse if you are using wifi and/or gprs and you are in a low signal area, which means that the device and the battery need to work even harder to serve your needs.

If this happens again then check your location relative to wifi and gprs and/or reduce the number of intensive applications you have running at the same time.

If this fails then you may have a fault; however I think one or all of the factors mentioned above are linked to your issue.

WB
[HD2 General] karaern:
ok tnx for replay guys...i accept this as normal situation, and yes i definety like to use igo8...and really its soo nice to have pda such LEO that can easily open and run several such programs!
[HD2 General] SammyBoyWonder:
Before i upgraded to rom 1.6 I had a cab that enabled me to bring up the comm mangager simply by holding down the left soft key (call button). Since the upgrade I'v searched all over this forum but cant remember which thread i got it from. Can someone kindly point me in the right direction.

Also, while looking on google, i discovered that holding the send button during a call toggles loudspeaker on and off. I'm loving this phone more and more. (apologies if this tip has already been posted.)
[HD2 General] Archer:
You can make the "long send" key run anything you want. Simply create a shortcut to comm manager (in this example) in the windows folder, and then rename it "long_send".

As I said, you can do that with anything :)
[HD2 General] Tubgirl:
Just in case you didn't know the long press send key toggles speaker phone on/off by default. If you assign another function to it you will lose that speakerphone shortcut.

Just FYI... /TubGirl
[HD2 General] Archer:
Good point! I just put the phone face down on the desk if I want to use the speakerphone, so it's never been an issue to me.
[HD2 General] SammyBoyWonder:
turning the phone face down turns on speakerhone?
[HD2 General] SammyBoyWonder:
Really? thats just changed everything. I'd rather have my newly discovered speakerphone feature than the comm manager. thanks for clearing that one up.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Yeah, it does.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] maineim:
Hi.

Im having a problem with my wizard, ill explain:

If theres a msg in the outbox or in the drafts folder, the inbox get stuck, it wont open the msgs in the inbox folder.But if i delete the msgs in the outbox or drafts folder, the inbox folders come back to normal.

I dont know why is this happenin, i just did a hard reset and still the same.

I hope someone can help me.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] rmcknight:
If a hard reset did not fix the issue, have you tried flashing a whole new ROM (either stock or custom)?
[HD2 General] Sui Generis:
Hi, everyone,

Although, there were rumors that the camera chip is defective on this phones, mine is working just fine.

However, I post this thread to let you fellas know that I have discovered 3 very small cuts on the top right corner of the phone's case, right where the case meets the screen. They are very small but if you look closer or if you lightly slide your finger or your thumb's nail on the case's edge, you will feel them. Maybe they were created as part of the manufacturing process (when they pressed in the screen) or maybe they are just defects.

I would like to know if you have the same issue as I do. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. If I am the only one with those cuts, than I'll take it as a defect and proceed with the returning of the phone.

Many thanks.
[HD2 General] Archer:
I've not got them on mine. Any chance you could upload a pic?
[HD2 General] Xeon:
You mean like what people are describing here ? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=590425
[HD2 General] [★]:
Well first off it sucks that I only have 23 mb left after owning the phone for about 30 hours T_T but how come it says theres only 181mb left? is it just because windows can't see some of the files (like the windows folder)? because Im supposed to have 512mb right? :/
[HD2 General] seed_al:
The rest is used by the system (ROM). You can only access those 181MB.

Yes, it really sucks that there's so little storage left, especially with the Album, Youtube and browser cache growing so fast that they eat the whole storage withing just a few days. The Marketplace, that only installs to the internal memory, enforces the problem even more. This is a HUGE problem for non-powerusers, who get their applications from there and don't know how to delete the caches.

- delete the Opera executables (\Windows\Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe)

- delete the Youtube cache (located in \Windows\Youtube\),

- search the forum about how to relocate the Album cache

- install all your programs to the storage card, when possible.
[HD2 General] dgtel2:
I have a feeling that this is "design" faulty. HTC should not provide 512MB ROM. The ROM "image" is taken 300MB already.

If HD2 taken so much of "Total Storage", why in the first place HTC decided 512MB ROM? Might as well give it 8GB right away.

There's something not right with HD2 initial first batch. Camera, SMS, storage, ghost-screen, hyper-sensitive touch, etc. Too many problems....
[HD2 General] seed_al:
They should have at least provided enough so that non-powerusers would not run into problems.

And Microsoft should finally make the Marketplace install programs to the storage card.

It doesn't make sense to sell a phone that has an application store but not enough memory to buy applications from it.

Other than that, I don't have any of the problems you mentioned. It's a pity that there have been so many issues, but on the other hand, I can't think of any smartphone that was flawless from the day it was released. It shouldn't be like that, but unfortunately it is, it's a sad truth and HTC is no exception.

But at least we didn't have to wait any longer for the phone... I personally prefer some small issues to having to wait forever... :)
[HD2 General] dgtel2:
with so many models HTC has established, this is the "wierdest" model they have ever made..."design" failure issue...I would certainly advice potential buyers to wait for next batch (any idea when) to come out or wait for their super-android model(s) (Nexus One...?)
[HD2 General] seed_al:
The next batch won't have more memory and the rest of the issues is software, so waiting doesn't make much sense.
[HD2 General] dgtel2:
pray hard so that the next batch will have less "image" ROM. 300MB is too high for 512MB ROM. So the next batch "will" be shipped with fresh new stock ROM having much more stable system.

As of now, we have to play around with current situation.
[HD2 General] lude219:
There's nothing wrong with the design, per se. There's just a lot of bloatware and the pagepool setting (normally high for stock ROM) that take up the majority of the memory.
[HD2 General] dgtel2:
Talk about PagePool, what's the default PP for HD2? 8PP?
[HD2 General] PG101:
I think ClearTemp should help you delete some ofthe cache and temp files...
[HD2 General] [★]:
Thanks everyone, annoying though that its not just me, that its the problem with all the HD2 :mad:

When a hardspl comes out Im sure if I flash my device with a cooked rom, it will be alot better as they wont have so much crap on... am I right?
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
...Till then, use sk tools 4. something something .15:) (better HD2 compatability) AutoClean clears youtube and album cache. If you don.t use copilot delete the folder located in program files, it saves aprox 18mb of storage.
[HD2 General] 4D3:
Why is there a thread on this? all the info here can be found in the wiki.

1: Internal memory of the phone is used for the rom

2: why does it matter when the price of memory is insanely cheap

3: there is a thread like this in EVERY device forum

on top of this why are you all moaning about the internal memory of the HD2? personally, i would never install ANYTHING to internal memory as this is the "dedicated space" for your cooked rom when they become available and they will get bloated and all of it will be needed!

just because you get a cooked rom it doesnt mean that "there will be less crap on it" it just means that the rom chef has put the crap they want into it.

you can get a 1-32Gb storage card from ebay for about £6.99, buy one and put it in, install everything (other than system installs eg manila files & stuff that needs to be in the windows dir) to the SD card!

this is the most advanced handset on the market yet people are moaning about it for every/any reason under the sun!!

MG
[HD2 General] seed_al:
The "average consumer" soes not know about cooked ROMs and has no idea how to buz applications from outside the Marketplace, which always installs to the internal memory.

This means the low internal memory is a HUGE problem. Not for us, but for most HD2 users, who are not powerusers.

You're right, it is the most advanced handset on the market and all the moaning is annoying, but this really IS a huge issue (and actually it is the ONLY real issue). They are advertising this device to consumers but fail to make it useable for the average consumer, who has no idea about deleting caches, flashing ROMs and installing to the storage card.
[HD2 General] 4D3:
Err, no when you install an app you get the option to install to internal or SD card!

Adding an SD card is not a power user addition to the device! HTC even provide one of roughly 2Gb size in the HD2 box...put it in the device. this is not poweruser, any chimp can do that.

No, go on ebay and buy an SD card!

Incorrect again, this is a quote from the HTC website:

It clearly states memory available. and the words "EXPANSION SLOT" are a give away as to what that is used for.

ok, firstly, take a look at your HD2, if you dont know anything about these devices or at least are not prepared to read, why do you have it?

Second, i have been using these devices for 6-7 years, NEVER deleted cache in my life!!

Thirdly, if a user installs an app, gets the options: "Install to Device" or "Install to Storage Card" and then does not know what this is, then they probably also cannot tie their shoe laces.

A lot of people (stupid ones unfortunately) have got HD2's in the last few weeks and the XDA-Dev forum has been flooded with retarded posts like this asking stupid questions which are answered in the wiki or elsewhere in the forum.

XDA-Dev is THE HOME FOR POWERUSERS of HTC devices SO naturally I would assume that people are here because they know, or are looking to learn, and below i have quoted the forum rules:

this is from Flar

The problem is these "New" people dont do any of the following:

1: Read the Manual of the device

2: Read the forum rules and abide by them

3: Use the search button

4: Use google

This forum is getting ruined! this was once the home for power users, it is now the home for every dribbling idiot that wanted a phone better then the iphone but they cannot be bothered to do simple things like reading.
[HD2 General] seed_al:
No, Marketplace only installs to internal memory.

Which makes all the rest of your post obsolete. Sorry but you missed the point completely.

And I'm not talking about forum members, I'm talking about average consumers who buy the HD2 but never had a WM device before. They have no clue how to get applications from outside the marketplace. Thus, they buy everything from there, install it to internal memory and wonder why it's full after installing only a few things and watching a few youtube videos. They don't know how to install something to the SD card and they don't know how to delete youtube and other caches to free internal memory. Those are the people who then return their HD2 and buy an iPhone, because they think they can't install more than a feww applications - and this is a HUGE problem. If HTC wants to sell a consumer device, they need to make it useable for average consumers, who have no clue about gettimg applications from outside the market and freeing internal memory.

It's not a problem for me and not a problem for most of the users here, but we are only a minority among the people who buy the HD2.
[HD2 General] samtheman11:
Hi

Not trying to hijack the thread but.....

I have virtually no ROM mem left, and was trying to install some more games and apps, i was given coice of device or card so selected card, however the apps / games would not install saying not enough mem on device, for some reason even tho i was selecting mem card, it would try to default to the device mem.... any words of wisdom or ideas, is there there any way i can force the install on to a memory card??

Thanks in advance
[HD2 General] loomx:
Well I dont have a problem, and I have **** loads install on my phone, maybe its because im not a chip as said above, fitting an sd card is simple :P
[HD2 General] seed_al:
Yes you're not a chip. Most users of the forum aren't. But there are users you don't have a clue and if HTC wants to sell the device to regular consumers, who in general don't have a clue, they need to make it idiot-proof. That's why the iPhone sells so well: It's a crappy device but it's idiot proof.

The HD2 is already very easy to use but the storage thing is a huge problem for people who don't have a clue - and that's the majority.
[HD2 General] Archer:
To call the iPhone a "crappy device" is just ridiculous. It's one of the most popular pieces of publicly available technology.

The majority of people who get this phone get it because they know the brand and know windows mobile. YES, there are lots of people that don't fit into those categories (as you can see by the influx of new people on this forum), but they are simply a louder voice because the people who are in the majority don't need to keep asking simple questions.

Anyone who doesn't think that an expansion slot is a way to extend the overall capable size of their phone should buy a simpler phone, with less capabilities, OR spend the time and effort to learn how to use it correctly, without spitting their dummy every time it does something that they do not understand (or doesn't do something that their iPhone or Nokia did previously).

This forum is to help people, and to share knowledge, not for wingeing and moaning.
[HD2 General] loomx:
Thats just a stupid statement, most/nearly every phone has removeable storage and requires that to install lots of apps, weather it be a basic system like the old sony ericsson phones and so on.

And besides the people who dont have a clue about phones will read the manual, which tells you to put the sd card in the phone, the only people who will get caught out are people who dont have a clue about phones but think they know everything and natural selection just has worked out for them yet.