yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mikey:
Not a threat, it's a promise :) Are you capable of differing the difference??

Edit: Thanks: ataranine for pointing it out :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
I'm capable of putting together a sentence correctly, I'll tell you that much.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Can we call this a draw and be done with this now??

Lets all go to the strip club together and kick back :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
As long as binny gets the one stripper with herpes. :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] chizzy58:
dude why u flippin on everyone?

i KNOW u not letting an internet forum get u that upset!

these dudes r really working on the fix just sit back and watch.

i been following this since the other thread u helped to get closed.

dont let this one get closed.

just dont even respond.

not even to my (this) post.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mikey:
You should know when to say when, see you in 7 Days.

Too the rest of you:

Sorry for this, hope you guys move on with the topic-at-hand :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Quiet :)

Thanks Mikey1022 for handling that!

Lets all get back on that positivity band wagon!
[Droid Eris Android Development] chizzy58:
hate to say it but...thanks! :)

LETS GET ROOTED!

geniuses, carry-on.
[Droid Eris Android Development] syrkel2:
wow

wow the admins let people act like this on this forum? I guess i chose the wrong forum to sign up to. If i'm correct didnt this kind of childish talk cause one of the dev's working on the root to leave the forums?
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Well guys on that note I'm out for awhile.... Goodluck I just need a break and I'm not going to be bad mouthed for trying to help.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
This kind of thing happens on almost all forums/sites once in awhile.

The great thing about XDA is that it happened for 1 hour this morning and then is quickly handled and stopped :)

There are always bad apples around, but dont worry, we are a positive and dedicated group :)

Right everyone?
[Droid Eris Android Development] hilaireg:
Absolutely; and moderators such as 'Mikey1022' do the best they can to mediate instead of moderate.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Very well put, thank you.

Now back to finding these exploits!
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
another good dev leaves due to the same person's antics. it's a real shame.

sad to see you go binny

sorry you got flamed hope you come back.

and jmanley hope your lurking still. we really miss you too.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
I understand that getting flamed or bad mouthed sucks...

But I think we have turned Xda/Desire section into a positive and better maintained forum now :)

binny1007 & jmanley and any other that have been offended by "Bad Apples" come on back!

If there is any flaming or non-constructive talk going on, we can all as a community jump on it and get one of our great moderators involved!

We have a bounty of $470.00 now, we have constant ideas and updates....things are improved!
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
on a positive note anybody have any idea how to get the arm machine codes so we can try to get a root prompt directly from the kernel. haven't been on for a while. i've been lurking but have missed alot of what's going on lately.

my whole thought process on this is cause regular exploits seem to be patched so a software exploit is going to have to be way out of the box to work. i was thinking and jmanley also brought this up once. that if we inject code at the processor since it would have the super user permissions to give us what we want. we could override the kernel to give us what we want without playing with the software.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
Metasploit can convert between x86 and ARM, or so I'm told. I have an exploit that may work I just haven't had time to change it, compile it, and see.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
I'm out. If my exploit works at this point ill give it out to the people who have helped. Mostly from the original thread.

I'm tired of the whining and complaining going on about not having root. You knew when you got.the phone it did not have root. And now you are complaining there is no root? Let this be known: if my exploit works, binny c07, rigamrts, and anyone else who has helped so far will recieve a copy of the exploit. And that will be it.

Enough said. I'm out. Bye.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
Well, this sucks :/ A lot of us have been patiently waiting for the chance to fully customize our phones the way we want to.

I'm grateful for all the hard work put into the development, but I don't feel its fair for all of us. You guys don't deserve to be flamed for trying to help. If you only release it to certain number of people , the Eris Hacking community will not really exist and people won't get to develop some cool things that need root.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoban_eris:
What about those that don't fit into either category?

@zifnab06 - I really hope that your exploit works. If not for those of us that have been waiting, than at least for you and others who have been hard at work. I haven't been around xda-developers long and haven't seen a lot of the politicking that goes on here, but I do feel that there are many of us who have in fact been waiting patiently, willing to help, without *****ing and moaning. I, for example (see post 225 on the closed "Root Status" thread for Eris that this one is based on.) have came looking for a way to help out and was ignored. For that reason I have been patiently looking forward to some good news and for any posts which included things that I could do to help out in some way.

Long story short, if there is an exploit available, I hope it's made widely available so that your hard work can pay off and you can get the credit which you deserve.

Thanks to all of you who have been working toward root access on the Eris and again, if I can help in any way, (I'd need some help getting started) let me know.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
don't feel that bad this has been brewing before the eris/desire section was opened.

it takes one person to drive all the devs out and that's what happened. we all tried to give what we were experts at to the community but some have to ruin it by flaming the people who wanted nothing but to help.

i left cause of the same thing. i'm hoping people in the future take into consideration here. not all of us were looking to snag that 400 dollar bounty. while it's a nice jesture we were not looking for money.

it's happened in the dream forum.

it's happened in the hero forum.

and now here.

nuff said here. we need to regroup and think positive. also if any other person feels they have to be the internet toughguy take a look at what you'll cause as a reprecussion. let the devs work please cause if you fight with em. we leave.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Wow, I ignore the thread for 1 day and things goto hell....

Sorry to see you go Binny and zifnab06. Again thanks for your help.

I'm still working on an exploit as well, though its (obviously) slow going.

Its a shame that we're not working as a group on this anymore but I respect your choice. Good luck!
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
I can never quite understand the flaming or negative stuff.

I learned when I started out in WinMo Xperia Threads that people hassling or acting "Entitled" while you are working hard on a Mod or Rom or anything can be quite disheartening.

If it can be agreed upon, I would like to open a new thread, for root status and updates. (hopefully for the last time)

Or I can just add it to the bounty thread that is already open (I know and understand that most of us do this for the love of hacking and modding and out of a sense of community, but it is also a nice gesture and could really help someone that devotes time and effort to this)???

I would monitor it constantly and report any flaming and abuse to one of our great moderators immediatley.

What does everyone think???
[Droid Eris Android Development] chizzy58:
just link us to it and you got my vote :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
it's in his sig he changed it to the root status/bounty thread

hopfully all the riff raff will stay away after todays events.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jballz0682:
or hopefully they just stay here thinking this is the true root status thread...lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] CPCookieMan:
I completely see your reasoning for leaving. You very well deserve giving it a break. Just ignore the flamers. They mean nothing but harm. The mods will do their work to set them straight. I just can't believe that I didn't read the thread yesterday, and BOOM our devs are gone. Thanks for your hard work guys. I don't know what commands to run, but I have Windows, Linux, Mac, and now I just need the guidance on what to do.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
funny thing you didn't miss much

it all happened between 10 and 11 am today

it got even more funny when the antagonist attacked a moderator and got his well deserved ban.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Lol....very true...

New thread guys.....lets move it here :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=617203

I need all devs to give me whats not worked and all that so i can post there :)

And. dont worry...will get a moderator involved ASAP if flaming starts
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mikey:
Remember this button is your best friend :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigamrts:
i did that's why his post came up on the radar to you guys. i didn't want a repete of when me and jman left. but it happened anyways. this all sucks that alot of the devs i was working with are gone now.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mikey:
I tried my best in settling the dust....

Like it was mentioned in here before, there are/will be a couple of rotten apples in the basket.

With XDA being so big and popular, there really isnt any way of controling this problem till its reported.

That's why XDA is creating a developers section. Where developers with some credentials or knowledge can take care of business.

I dont know what to say but the XDA droid community is gonna miss theme, Desire community on XDA will miss them.

Hopefully they will take a day and notice that us mods are here to clean house, if needed.

Yes the whole XDA developmental era has lost MANY great developers cause of lil kids, or even adults acting like kids, well no more :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] syrkel2:
Yeah it's just a shame that 1 person can ruin it for everybody. I appreciate all of the effort on the part of all the devs and hopefully we can still root this thing. If there is something I could try on my phone to help I will do it; i'll just file insurance on it if it bricks lol; last time they sent me a droid as my replacement haha...
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
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Im done helping here binnny, jman, zifnab. I'm not that big of a help but ya need anything let me know.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Please close this thread...it has become negative and no longer serves any purpose
[Droid Eris Android Development] chizzy58:
please post a link to the new thread! :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Here ya go:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=617203

Check it out...we need some help...got some ideas going...
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Nope, the Eris' goldcard doesn't work like previous HTC devices. Its *NOT* the Hero, so don't expect the Hero roots to work on it.

Also, nobody so far has been able to boot the extracted .img files in oem-78 mode.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Also you could try from fastboot oem-78 "fastboot update Rom.zip" or "fastboot flashall Rom.zip" you may have to run it twice it dose some flushing.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
That should bypass any version checks
[Droid Eris Android Development] chuckz07:
Jman, I PM'ed you with more of an explanation. This forum still needs your help if you feel that you can let the other thread happenings go.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Hey rsx did any of those work for you?
[Droid Eris Android Development] rsx-s newbie:
Fastboot update rom.zip gives an error that says "Whoops didn't find expected signature"

Fastboot flashall rom.zip gives "error: neither -p product specified nor ANDROID_PRODUCT_OUT set"
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Hmmm..... well I wish I knew more what you were working with, the only thing I can think is if the Rom is signed with test keys that may be why it is failing. But regardless there has to be a way to flash it if it was made for the Eris.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Welp thats it, If We cant figure this out in the next 5 days im returning it and buying a nexus one... :( I feel ashamed.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
adb shell reboot bootloader

fastboot boot recovery-RA-heroc-v1.5.2.img

adb shell mount /sdcard

adb push recovery-RA-heroc-v1.5.2.img /sdcard/recovery-RA-heroc-v1.5.2.img

adb shell flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery-RA-heroc-v1.5.2.img

adb shell reboot

Thats from the signature forum about the hero and flashing a Amon_Ra custom recovery partition.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
That won't work for us. We can't reboot to the bootloader, it doesn't allow fastboot on the Eris. We CAN boot to oem-78 mode to get fastboot, but it signature checks what you try to boot, where the Hero doesn't.

No dice.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
I just adb shell reboot bootloader.... im at the bootloader screen....
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Yes, but you can't fastboot from there. We're locked outa it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Reason we are locked out is because the device is not listed the device now shows up as "My HTC" instead of adb device...
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Device Manager now shows it as My HTC instead of a adb device, thats why no devices are listed
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Hmm, under Linux fastboot recognizes it, but says 'Not Allowed'. Or something close to that.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
im gonna experiment for a while till jman gets back to me.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Sure thing. I'd love for you to prove me wrong :) Good luck!
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
We have a perfect SPL nothing can be done from fastboot, its just not going to happen. I just don't want you to waist your time.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
I can flash the image if we can get it into a directory that adb has read permissions from
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
right now i got it into a folder on the root of the device called /sqllite_stmt_journals but it is permission denied for adb reading the files, i either need to change adb's permisions for the file/ what user is it running from? or move it to a folder adb has full control of to read.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
hmm dunno if this means anything but im "stuck at the htc logo"
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Yes we have been there. You can use fastboot commands from that screen. But still it won't let you do anything it just acts like it is doing somthing.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
signature checks :/
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Think amon_ra's nexuone recovery will flash to it?
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Not likely, different hardware.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
What i really dont understand is why we dont use the goldcard, then flash the hero spl to it, then flash the recovery onto it, then turn around and reflash the eris spl back onto it...
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Because the Goldcard won't flash from a different phone with the Eris, only a different version, the Eris is not a Hero so the Hero's SPL would very likely brick it even if we could flash it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Will T-Mobile be getting a nexus one in there stores soon? I think I may have to go feel it :(
[Droid Eris Android Development] SoCalSpecialist:
oh no no no.

ur not allowed to quit. Ive been watching this thread very closely and you're one of the main contributors here. we need this device rooted just like every other droid on the market right now. keep with it. im sure the lot of you will have it figured out shortly.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Goobalicious:
Don't give up!
[Droid Eris Android Development] metasage:
I think the Nexus is an online Google Store exclusive. This phone and others to come will never be offered in carrier stores.

But yeah, please. Don't give up. :o
[Droid Eris Android Development] fdxgnd:
I have been following this the whole time. My wife has an Eris. She is just like me and we got fed up with apple and switched to a Droid and Eris hoping to root. Me, I'm good. While not a developer but slowly learning I know u guys will get it. I gave her the option to switch to get root in another phone and she respectfully declined. So in the midst of frustration and desire just know u guys are backed 100% and will get root. So, thanks to all involved and in the words of Joe dirt. U gotta keep on keeping on.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Tried Resourcing out

I tried contacting a few people who are in the know of this kind of things they are following:

Paul - MoDaCo = offered to create a thread on MoDaCo to tap a different user base to help us, no "response" about helping gain access.

Amon_Ra - XDA = No response, his mailbox is probally full

fo****** - XDA = One who leaked the "C" Rom, Only has limited access nothing to help us gaining root, but still great source for 2.0/2.1 Before Verizon pushes it and HTC finalizes it.

Jman - XDA = He will talk to a few of us after what happened, but provided all the files we need to gain root once we find a way in. (Probally best Guidance we have so far)

OliPro - XDA = Developer of HardSPL for blackstone - Current mailbox is full.

Private Friend = Hosting Co - We setup a box running several programs designed to bruteforce and compare the 2 roms we have available - I expect results in the next 58 years or so.

If anyone knows anyone on other phones specifically HTC or Android that have done anything significant (sorry no rom cookers we need root first) please contact them.

p.s. im not providing this for people to bug them but the opposite for people not to be mass messaging them asking for help / stuff. Piss these people off and you may be SOL on root.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
I got a reply back from Amon_ra and no luck, he does not know of anything for us.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Since this is "Open Source" and a "Open Platform" isnt HTC Required to divludge any information regarding the device and anything they added - If im right they are required to provide the tools to sign a rom. Since that is something they changed in the OS.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
No, they're required to give us the kernel source, but not the keys. The keys are something the DEVICE needs to auth the kernel.
[Droid Eris Android Development] samster786:
hey guys i joined xda when i was into winmo a few years back and came back after making the switch to the android platform (after first messing around with iphone os, symbian, blackberry, etc lol) I love my Eris and Im here to stay.

Im fairly tech/mobile savy, but a complete noob to android hacking. I just want to say good luck and thank you! Whoever ends up finding the exploit that works better post their paypal account :) And if you could find anyway that tech-savy android noob to help short of destroying my Eris, count me in-- you have my full support!
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
I've had a request open for a week now with HTC about the kernel they arent providing, They have 24 hours before I can file my complaint :D I just sent them another email about opening up the platform or providing a ENG SPL or some other way of gaining root as they have provided it for the nexus one.
[Droid Eris Android Development] CPCookieMan:
Double that for me! :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Dude the ENG SPL on the nexus one was only on the test devices they sent out. I guarantee the production devices bieng sent out now do not have a ENG SPL on it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
They dont have a eng spl, but they can be unlocked. The ones being sent out are confirmed to be unlock able.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Yes you can unlock them to use on a different carrier, but that is way different than root.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
They DO however apparently have a built in unlocker just for people like us. You can do "fastboot oem unlock" and you're done. Too bad the Eris isn't like that :(
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
binny this is completely different it unlocks and disables all security checks. Its a "unlocker" for the security. Its included and has been posted about. The phone is rooted allready because of this, it bypasses the eng spl need.

P.S. Im giving up on posting for a while until I can come up with some I think all the chatter in this forum may be the downfall on why we dont have more people with the know helping, Need anything just PM me. I really think there are people who assume we are "close" when we are no closer than we were a month ago.
[Droid Eris Android Development] CPCookieMan:
Hmmmmmmm... Well here's a question. Since we bought the device, we should be able to do what we want with it right. Is there a reason why HTC wouldn't just give us a method of getting root. Maybe a petition? Why do they lock it down so much in the first place. If we want root, we should be able to run a command and get it. I feel that someone should try asking. See what they say. Or if nobody is brave enough, I'll shoot them an email. What's their email address?

P.S. If anyone wants methods tried on Mac, just holler.
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
Good luck with that email. Just go to the HTC support page and shoot them an email. However, we are still trying to get the Android Source code which they legally MUST give us access to, however, they are trying to jump through hoops to avoid giving it out.
[Droid Eris Android Development] samster786:
well the 'developer-friendly' device i was sold by VZW/HTC isn't very developer-friendly without root access! HTC needs to quit being like Apple regarding jailbreaking ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Actually, from an app development standpoint they're very developer friendly. Unfortunately, if you go beyond app development, you run into this issue :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Framework43:
Not sure this will help at all but I found a really weird settings page that I never encountered until today just messing around.

Why is this even on the Eris if its a CDMA exclusive?
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Thats the GSM Android SIM lock screen. It shouldn't be there on the CDMA phone. How did you get there?
[Droid Eris Android Development] laxattack:
maybe that could be our key in for root?
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
I'm gonna go with No on that one, but it is an interesting screen considering it's a CDMA only phone.

Also like to know how one gets to that screen.

EDIT: Page 83 of the other thread, I think, someone said they were using the Goldcard and it showed them a SIMLock screen.
[Droid Eris Android Development] samster786:
x2 how did you get there?

could VZW be prepping an Android-equipped World-Phone?
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
Is this under the new update or the old RUU? It may just be leftover from the Android kernel, although in any case, unless YOU put it there yourself through some unknown exploit, it's pretty useless. Neat, but useless.