yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Questions and Answers] timmymarsh:
hey

simply......... yes lol or goto the xda-wiki and search for blackstone, it has dl links for all stock roms. But use officical site if you can :D

Hspl will still stay on on fone should you wish to change your mind again lol

btw why are you reverting back to stock rom?
[General Questions and Answers] johnny cammaro:
problems with exchange. When I shutdown my pda, it forgets my account and mails. Only from exchange, pop3 accounts are still there. When I switch my telephone on again I only have to click new account (it remembers my settings from exchange.) I click sync and it starts dl all my exchange messages again. That's not ok :P
[General Questions and Answers] timmymarsh:
What device and rom are u using now?
[HD2 General] jamuk2004:
Hello everyone,

I know this has come up before, but now I think it's time to start actually testing this!

I've found a cable on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Micro-USB-Host-OTG-Cable-for-Palm-Treo-800W-data-sync_W0QQitemZ260524857077QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca87dd6f5

Also, in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=480899&page=17

There seems to be confirmation that HD2 has the right files to make this work, so what am I missing?

UPDATE: I found this quote on a Modaco forum

- Hmmm, thoughts anyone?

Thanks!
[HD2 General] Jackuuuuu:
Hey,

Please report after receiving it!!! This is great to know man!!!

Thanks a lot!
[HD2 General] the-equinoxe:
hTC service manuals (just look at the Diamond series service manual) depict a y-cable.

This is a cable where you can plug in a power supply, your device and the cardreader.

The powersupply is necessary because hTC devices don't have a power output.

I doubt if the standard treo cable works on a hTC.
[HD2 General] Tubgirl:
I'm holding this cable in my hands right now.

What do I do now? I have a USB memory stick that would be nice to be able to read for instance.
[HD2 General] kholk:
You only have to wait for my ROM (or another one that includes Qualcomm's USB Host drivers) to come out and...

TEST, TEST, TEST! :D
[HD2 General] Tubgirl:
Ok, too bad. I thought it would be possible to install drivers separately. :(
[HD2 General] bouaroudj:
Did you try these drivers from Zeno USB Host drivers topic?

http://rapidshare.de/files/45220151/__Zeno_USB_Host_Drivers_v6.0a.rar.html
[HD2 General] Tubgirl:
Thanks for the drivers. I installed them but unfortunately my USB memory stick isn't detected. I wonder if my cable is OK though... when I insert it the NAVIPANEL starts. I've disabled the automatic startup of Navipanel but all programs are in landscape when the USB cable is inserted.
[HD2 General] the-equinoxe:
No wonder, the stick isn't getting any power (as I told in the third post)..
[HD2 General] spastik:
true !

try using a external powered usb hub in the middle.
[HD2 General] Tubgirl:
If that's the case it's pretty useless with the USB host function. Then I'd rather do whatever I want on a computer instead if it's nearby anyways.
[HD2 General] turt:
Well, for starters the Diamond uses extUSB while the HD2 uses a standard microUSB. So the Diamond service manual is pretty useless in this case!

So don't try and mislead people here, chances are high the USB-host function can be used in the HD2 with the appropriate drivers.

Tubgirl, have you tried installing these drivers? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=480899

Please let us know! :)
[HD2 General] Tubgirl:
I have tried the Zeno drivers and they don't work with my cable.
[HD2 General] Archer:
I mostly agree with this, but you can get portable USB power supplies. I've got 2 of them for when I use my phone for watching vids, playing games and listening to music on long journeys. They take rechargable AA or AAA batteries, so with the correct adapter, they could power a USB device, without the need for a plug socket.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
USB devices need ~ 5V of power and I read somewhere that the output power of the HD2 is limited to 100mA.. not much to make most of the usb devices work.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Not sure what those USB battery powered chargers output, but that's a good point. I'll keep my arse shut next time I want to make a suggestion ;)
[HD2 General] ahdai:
Usually 5-5.5V and up to 2000mA.

I play around with USB alot. Will look into it also. Got to get the cable first, or anyone with the microusb pinouts?
[HD2 General] Archer:
Maybe it was my mouth and not my arse then :) I've got a couple. One takes 2 AA and one takes 4 AAA, so they're capable of putting out a decent amount. Whether they do or not is obviously a different matter.
[HD2 General] the-equinoxe:
The Y-usb CABLE used for the Diamond isn't extUSB..

I am not MISLEADING but INFORMING that every USB device needs POWER.

This power won't come from your device, but from an external source, hence you need a Y cable to provide the power.

This is how the hardware was build, has nothing to do with drivers or software.

But please, keep being thickheaded and insist in your irrational delusion that your device is able to power external devices through USB...

EqX
[HD2 General] jamuk2004:
If this is true, how come the Toshiba TG01 which has the same chipset and uses the same cable for USB host, can run various devices such as USB stick, HDD, Gampad? It does not require a seperate power source.
[HD2 General] ahdai:
A standard USB host following official regulation WILL provide power. Never seen a MP3/MP4 with USB host?

If the HD2 provides only 100mA then it is just not designed for USB host and we are pushing it. Can't blame HTC, what can we expect from that tiny battery...
[HD2 General] the-equinoxe:
Apples - Pears

HTC != Toshiba

HTC historically does not enabe USB power output.

But please prove me wrong: take a multimeter and show me that there indeed is a power output..
[HD2 General] jamuk2004:
Ok thank you for clarifiying this.

Any way to check this or to enable this, maybe via registry?
[HD2 General] Tanmay®:
^^ :| How can a registry setting help if the device is itself incapable of supplying enough power.

And if an external power source does help in any way, it just defeats the purpose of the portable Host funationality. Who will carry external power with them everytime....
[HD2 General] turt:
So because HTC historically does not enable USB power output, they haven't done it in the HD2? But historically they don't use capacitive screens, yet they have for the HD2!

Talk about apple & pears...

The TG01 and the HD2 use the same chipset, and furthermore the usb-host feature was enabled in the pre-production HD2 device reviewed by the poster b3ler3fonte: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4586061#post4586061
[HD2 General] skr_xd:
Just checked the pins 1&4. There is no Vout.

May be a registry change required?:confused:
[HD2 General] skr_xd:
Incase,

Pin out specs.
[HD2 General] the-equinoxe:
pre-production != production

Toshiba != hTC

Any chipset needs their vias and wireing on the pcb to enable certain functions, if the manufacturer doesn't make the wireing (eg. for better energy management) the feature isn't enabled, eg. in the X1 pre-production model there was a g-sensor which was emitted in later models, and the Hermes had GPS disabled by grounding one line (pulled down).

Still waiting for you to provide the proof that there is a power OUT on the USB..

EqX
[HD2 General] NLS:
A moderator one day before Christmas could be cooler.

Ok most of us understand turt is wrong. He doesn't deserve the death penalty.
[HD2 General] the-equinoxe:
K, critique accepted, could have told it nicer.

BTW wasn't meant as death penalty, just an attempt to make him think rationally.

But still, could have expressed myself in a friendlier way, point taken.

Happy festivities,

EqX
[HD2 General] NLS:
Happy festivities to you too man. :)
[HD2 General] jgal:
I would :) Carrying a small charger with a built in Li-ion cell (Philips makes these) or even a small wall charger and a small usb hub - I think its still better than carrying a whole laptop or even a netbook :) So I still think it is worth investigating!
[HD2 General] turt:
Well, I'm not claiming anything apart the fact that usb-host may be possible on the HD2.

Will you eat your hat if the HD2 indeed supports usb-host?

Testers who have the right cable, you could try and flash this ROM, because the main claimed feature is that the USB-host functionality is activated! :)
[HD2 General] the-equinoxe:
/Facepalm/

Turt, I never said usb-host is impossible, I said: The Cable is not right!!

USB Host needs an external power supply.

Try actual reading next time..
[HD2 General] David Balfour:
After reading through the thread the question Here is has anyone actually managed to get this working?

I have a powered USB drive that i carry but using this with my phone would be a great advantage for work and stuff.
[HD2 General] laraczech:
Hi, i dont think so. USB host no need external power. EG external keyboard havent any external power...

But i am not sure ;)
[HD2 General] NLS:
and this is why you are wrong
[HD2 General] ahdai:
Guys there is no right or wrong here. A full fledged USB host does not need an external power. But we are now talking about official and non-official USB host.

Let me repeat, the HD2 was not designed to support USB host function therefore even if we enabled it we will may need an external power source due to hardware design.
[HD2 General] David Balfour:
This is seriously getting out of hand now. The Leo might not give out enough power over USB to power a USB device but has anyone actually tried? Wasn't the whole point of this thread to ACTUALLY find out if this works not just sit and speculate.

@jamuk2004 have you made any progress with seeing if this works or not? I wont be able to get hold of a cable myself until next month
[HD2 General] jamuk2004:
I have the cable but waiting for the rom to be cooked with USB Host drivers in :)
[HD2 General] brooon:
Has anybody some exciting/sad news here? :)
[HD2 General] aodabas:
any update for usb host
[HD2 General] Ben86:
maybe this one could be interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlyRs1fr0yk
[HD2 General] moooxooom:
hmmmm let me translate for you:

2nd generation HD2 super fast charging converter

#1 - normal power source

#2 -super fast converter

#3 - normal converter
[HD2 General] Ben86:
oh okay thx xD

it looked like that the device was reading a power out of the hd2 :)
[HD2 General] will9895:
Where am I going wrong?

OK I've had a go at this, but it didn't wokr. Hopefully somewhere can point out what the problem is!

First I bought a male micro USb to female USB (the normal type), tried this directly with a memory stick after installling Zeno's 2011 v1.0 drivers, but with no joy.

So I figured there wasn't any power provided by the micro USB port on the HD2. I opened the cable housing and cut the red and white leads (the 5V power ones), and built a little basic power supply by wiring 3 1.5V AA batteries in series. I wired this to the USB power wires leading to the female port, with the idea being that it would power the USB device while data could still flow to the HD2. It didn't work. I've checked the power output by both the tongue test and charging various devices over USB. I tested the host functionality with a memory stick, a wireless keyboard and mouse, and an android phone, which didn't give any indication it detected anything other than a charger.

What I've guessed could be the problems are that 4.5V is insufficient, in which case I'm wondering if 4 1.2V batteries (i.e. 4.8V total) will be enough; and secondly that I've done something wrong with installing the drivers. Thirdly, there was part of the wiring I didnt understand- while the 4 wires from the USB weer shrouded and then wrapped together in foil, a 5th unbraided wire ranall the way around the outside of these, inside the final casing of the cable. I had to cut it, but I think I joined it back up well. I just think I read somewhere about the 5th micro USb pin enabling USB host funtionality?

My next step is to flash the ROM with the drivers cooked, as before I installed them through activesync onto Energy ROM April 8th. Thanks to everyone developing this stuff, and for any suggestions for the next step I should take.
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
I could be completely wrong here so exscuss me if I am. But I thought that the read and black wires were the power wires in the USB cable not the red and white. I was under the understanding that the red wire was the positive and the black wirewad the negative. If I am wrong just disregard my post please.
[HD2 General] motoi_bogdan:
yep, black+red are the usb power pins.

If you send anything between 4.5 to 5.5volts there, the data pins (white+green) can be enabled, thus you get usb hosting under an OS capable of doing that. The phone itself doesn't supply voltage over those pins.

HOWEVER.. this will never work on hd2's winmo 6.5. I also had an htc athena that has usb host functionality. But the connector is different, so different pathways for usb host and usb slave modes. HD2 doesn't have this. Instead the usb controller chip can be set to either host or slave, but by booting the phone with a specific kernel (linux). In winmo.. there isn't any option to simply switch the usb controller for one mode to another and from what i know there aren't any native usb host enabled devices made by htc that are built in this way.

So if you want usb hosting, linux is the way :p

Related to the problem of a portable usb hosting enabled hub, i will design a compact lithium polymer battery powered one. I guess it should be smaller then a pack of cigarettes and more thinner. I could design it in a about a day, but i don't know what case to use to house the thing and make it look more decent. :D
[HD2 General] T-Macgnolia:
Hey facdemol, I don't want to hijack this thread. But.I can not send you a PM as you know. I Busted my LCD on my Lenovo G530 laptop. Can you recomend a website to getca replacement for a decent price? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[HD2 General] motoi_bogdan:
aww. didn't know i can't receive pm's. Will fix that.

About the display, well i quit servicing laptops some time ago. As technology changes, i'm not sure that the same options we had some years ago ar still available today. Still, i don't know the outside market or things related to it, we got or spare displays from retailers inside our country, don't know where they got them. We however paid something around $100-150 for a standard 15.4 wide glossy display. From what i know the prices should be about the same now. Can't really make a choice on where to buy them as i don't know the outside market. Sorry about that :(
[HD2 General] will9895:
Woops

Thanks to everyone for clearing that up, I did actually connect the power to te red and the black leads, I was writing this the middle of a sleepless night! The white and green leads are in tact still.

Right ok about the host supporting kernal, that's a seroius shame though! I think I'm right in saying Android has OTG functionality? might give that a try as soon as I get a new microSD, and definitely Ubuntu. Is there ever any hope for this support coming to HD2? doesn't the Toshiba TG01 have host functionality over its micro USB? I've seen it browsing photos stored on a camera- is there any hope for this being patched to HD2? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I'm clueless past school physics!

I'll upload my power supply I built up for this later, I must say I'm quite pleased with it. If I could make thisI'm sure everyone could, but I reckon it beats buying anything. I'm going to throw in some switches so that I can divert the battery power to both or either of the ends of the usb cable, so power the USB device and/or the phone.

Great to see there's still people interested in this thread!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musje83:
Hello all,

A couple of weeks ago I flashed my Xperia to the Valkyrie_v3.8 FireStorm ROM and I love it. It's beautiful, it's fast, and it's stable as hell.

However I have two major issues.

1) When i write a text message, it automatically (and randomly) inserts marks. So, when I write the following:

"Hello dear! How are you doing today? I am feeling fine!"

It looks something like:

"Hello Dear! How. Are you doing. Today? I am. Feeling fine!"

With my previous ROM (Christiaan's NL rom) I had no such problem, so it is software related. Is it possible the language is set to english (I type in Dutch) that causes the problem? Where can I change this setting?

2) Windows Mediaplayer is horrible in this version.

When I select a song in the front-panel it starts playing well. When i open the Mediaplayer screen it works well. When I close mediaplayer however, it stops playing alltogether. My previous ROM ensured the music kept playing unless I pressed either pause or stop. This way, when I have my Mediaplayer open, I cannot use the rest of my phone (at least, I haven't found a minimize-button as of yet).

These are my main complaints, I hope somebody can help me! :)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] comeradealexi:
Comment on the Valkyrie rom page where you downloaded it because this is all rom specific
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] EclipseTouchPro:
is this possible for the touch pro? :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] moonman23:
Works Great

I found an app called Keep My Tones which allows you to assing ringer to all your contacts.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pimpmyfriedl:
Most custom Roms don't have the TV out driver.

has anybody extract this out of the original ROM?

driver and settings?

or can somebody tell me, how to extract this driver out of the ROM?
[HD2 General] petexx:
Hi guys,

I have recently moved from symbian platform to WinMo. I do have a question regarding data connection. Does it ever auto disconnects? (for example in my old N95 if I clicked sync in my mail application, the phone would connect, download new mail and then auto disconnect when the job was done)

Also the phone would disconnect from data connection after closing app that was using it.

Now with my HD2 when I sync email, refresh weather etc the data connection stays on. Do I have to disconnect it manualy every single time so it doesnt drain my battery? It is very annoying since I have to do it manually very often.

Please advise... maybe I am missing something...

Cheers

Pete
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
Hi,

There's a few threads on here on data connection disconnection. There is also a hints & tips thread right at the top of this page.

Use this tool to find what you are looking for..http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://xdaforums.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all

WB
[HD2 General] sharpey:
install the 1 min disconnect tweak thats on this forum.

if you only set emails to check automatically it will disconnect ok using the above tweak but if you have weather and/or twitter apps connecting to update for some reason it will not close the connection at all :confused: i have told htc but never heard back
[HD2 General] NeilM:
The only real reason for disconnecting a data connection is if you want to prevent unwanted costs associated with data exchange.

If you're in a weak signal area you can save battery by switching the connection band to GSM rather than 3G, but in a strong signal, 3G is more power efficient.

An open, but quiescent data connection has little or no effect on battery life as it's simply using the network infrastructure; battery usage only occurs during actual data exchange. So, if you turn off all the auto-update features and set email polling to a longer interval you should be OK. Kind of defeats the purpose of the device though :)
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
From my experience all Symbian devices and the iPhone auto disconnect from the network once the data connection is no longer needed. They also reconnect in the blink of an eye. It kind of irritates me that Windows Mobile doesn't allow you at least the OPTION of doing so. It's particularly annoying if you're connected to a speaker and can't get 3g as there's a constant noise going off. I also think it can't be great for your balls having that connection constantly active! It's not HTC's fault though, just I think a result of Windows Mobile being inherently quite archaic...perhaps Windows have just overlooked it.

There's a great free app HERE to tweak the WinMo connections for individual apps. It's a must have for me.
[HD2 General] matt07930:
This really isn't a problem, I've seen N95's that retain their connection at all time (and some that don't) and to be honest it just makes your handset a little quicker.
[HD2 General] DexyG:
WMLongLife is the nuts. You need it.
[HD2 General] blanco360:
Thanks for the link, I pay per minute on my connection (rather than data transferred) so an open connection is not good for my bank balance ;)
[HTC Excalibur] billybob666:
Does anyone know where I can the lowlight cab?
[HTC Excalibur] stylez:
I have attached just made .cab form the .exe

Also there is a .cab here to which will automatically changes screen bright-dim when click the shortcut.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4768177&postcount=32
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rafter_01:
Hi,

coming from the HTC Hero phone, i liked the locking pattern and was wondering if its available for HD2? Ive searched but no joy.

Also, yesterday i helped a mate install the POCKET GOD game on his iphone and its amazing, is it or will it be available on the HD2?

CHEERS
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seed_al:
Search for 'ThrottleLock'.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DMAND:
I love how people ask on here instead of bugging the actual developers to make a HD2 version! Looks cool.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mrxdaking:
Hello,

i want to buy a bigger SD-Card for my Kaiser but which Size is the biggest that would work in the Phone?

4, 8, 16, 32GB or more???

Which Size are you using???

Thanks for the answers

Mrxdaking
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stuntdouble:
32gb sdhc card is the max you can use.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] 03hdfatboy:
I'm using a 16Gb.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] darkic:
SanDisk 16 gb, and works perfect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Greeee:
I'm running a Kingston 16GB SDHC card, so far so good, however I am noticing some problems with Audio Manager with some albums.

Am just putting the music back on, to check if its not just a problem with the original transfers, but it shouldn't be.

Will keep you posted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Flying Kiwi:
Avoid Sandisk 6 GB if you can

I'm using Sandisk 16 GB now and it's working fine. I used to have a Sandisk 6 GB in the same device and that was problematic and kept loosing files 3 times over a period of months so I'd personally avoid a 6 GB card in a TyTN II!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dcarr622:
Agree with the above--16GB no problem. I wouldn't even bother with 32GB, they are sooo expensive and so easy to lose :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ArsoBelly:
I use an 8 GB sandisk since almost a year and a half and it just works perfectly, never faced any trouble using it :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Let's all repeat each other..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gazzacbr:
I use an 8 GB sandisk and have no problems, also I use an 8 GB sandisk and have also had no problems.

its like deja vu all over again :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bliblablub:
btw: Did any of you ever notice a different speed with different classes?

e.g. is class4 faster (feeling) than class2 aso.?

I personally can't see any speed drop from 8gb class4 to 16gb class2
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] darkic:
I got SanDisk 16gb class 4 in my Kaiser, and it works excellent.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Abel2007:
hello,

i have bought 2 16GB (sandisk class 2) micro sd card for my kaisers.

i have 3. 2 htc 1 vodavone.

the 2 htc only see 1 GB

the vodavone kaiser doesn't sees the sd al all.. is there a tweak for the large sdhc or is it something else?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Abel2007:
anyone an idea why my kaiser and touch only see less than 1GB of an 16GB microsd?