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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
Thank You so much for getting back to me, your awesome lol...and Thank You very much for the info/instructions!!! I've already told many people about this app. and posted about it numerous times on twitter!!! :D

Is there anything your looking to add to this app in the future feature wise? when will it be finalized as a final version? Also when we enter a user name will it stick or do we have to always re-enter it every time we use the app?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
If people have suggestions, I'll look into adding them, but for now, bug fixes and improvements are the main concern.

The user name you choose is not permenent, which is why it is random each time. It's just a useful identifier, that at one point will probably be 100% automatic and simply tell the user his/her ID.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
? Questions

Ok a couple of things-

1. not sure if i understand correctly, do you have to be in the same room with the person you are "shaking" with? or you can be 100 miles away?

2. Can i install this on my storage card?

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
1. You CAN be in a different area, however that takes the main idea out, but I added support for this. Simply click Pair->Manual Pair and enter the other devices nickname, and then have the other person do the same for you.

2. It is technically possible, but for some reason, the CAB maker isn't giving the user the option, so I'll look into it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mhrc4:
Thanks for the replies and the new version.

any thoughts of adding something like AppToDate to it so that it can update automatically when you add a new version?

Also, I think it would be a good idea to save the username/devicename and maybe even the possitiility of auto-login, but that might require a registration system on your database, which might not be a bad thing....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
once both parties enter in the nick names of the other people and u click on send and select what u want to send is that it...then just shake the phone??

this pertains to both people being in different places btw!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
neat stuff

thank you for the fast reply-

1. yeah- i wouldn't really use it for that. but just wanted to make sure i understood the full capabilities of the app. plus- like i said- none of my friends use win mo, so i thought maybe someone on here would go for a test run with me.

2. and thanks for looking into the memory card install. i try to put everything i can on there. especially since you said something about possibly needing 10mb if you are sending a large file.

very cool.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] heliod:
One thing I can't understand: how can you guarantee that at the moment I shake my two phones for pairing there won't be other 157 phones also shaking and receiving what I send?

It really puzzles me......

Helio
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
The client version is sent to the server upon connection, and if the versions don't match, the client gives you a message and allows you to download the latest version.

Registration will probably be added at one point, or otherwise nicknames will be phased out and the devices will generate names on their own. Auto login will be added when the advanced options (so you can change the server) are added.

Yep, the sender shakes the phone, and when it goes over to the other phone, shake it, or accept/ignore.

What I meant by 10mb is 10mb of RAM. The program allocates 10mb of ram for file sending, but the program itself only uses ~211kb.

Because not that many people use this app at once. The server timeouts pairing, so you pretty much have to shake at the same time (or within ~1 second), but as I said, not that many people use this app at once (How often would you send contacts, anyway?).

If this app becomes really popular, I will add location support to isolate the location better.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MadLinx:
Great Idea. tried to use with my TP2 & my Treo Pro. Obviously the Treo does not have G Sensor. Seemed to work fine with the TP2, but not with the Treo.

the app does open, but I can't get it to pair automatically & tapping the screen does nothing.

when these bugs get worked out...GREAT APP!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
What were you doing to try to pair on the Treo?

Pairing is done by clicking the Pair button and then selecting Pair for automatic.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
Jaxbot I tried doing as you said with sharing a contact or file with someone somewhere else but it didn't seem to work, at least when I tried :confused:

I started up the app then entered my nickname and hit connect, next I selected pair manually and then entered my friends nickname with whom I wanted to share something with and he did the same and entered in mine..Next I selected what I wanted to send and shook the phone but nothing seemed to happen... hmmmm any help??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Were you sending a pictue/file or a contact? Did the message "Shake to Send" appear, and then go away after shaking?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
I was trying to send a file and after I went through all the steps I shook the phone but nothing idk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
You clicked Yes and all, right? Shaking shouldn't be required to send files if you're already paired (Though, it won't hurt anything.)

The server HAS had some issues with file sending, and I haven't been able to track down the problem quite yet, but I've been able to send files just fine among me, the device emulator, and my friends with winmo.

What size is the file?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
the file was def. less then the stated 10mb so I know I was fine on that end.. But come to think about it I think it did the same when I sent a contact.. hmmm idk lol I know its still a new app that needs some tweaking and im sure it'll get there, I just like giving feed back b/c I think this app is really good and has the potential to be awesome!!! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Can you give me the exact file size? I think I have an idea.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
It was 843k to be exact!! Maybe you and I can try it out and try to send either a file or contact over since were in 2 different places and see what happens??

just an idea :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Alright. The problem has nothing to do with sending from different places, I've gotten that figured out. What I thought the problem was is also apparently not the problem.

I have, however, isolated the problem to the client. It's getting late, however, so I will work on it tomorrow. If anyone feels like testing out with different applications open (to use more RAM) or different file sizes, feel free :)

Hopefully I'll get this fixed soon and release a fix.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
Glad to see you've narrowed it down to it being the client it-self giving the prob. and glad my feedback has caught this and it'll be fixed to make this app hands down superb!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mrwangkai:
very useful app. Check out our overview of the app here: http://bit.ly/55Jr6U
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Thanks for the review!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
For those having trouble with sending (eg MRFERRARI23), try installing the latest update (It should auto-update as soon as the server starts).

This *hopefully* will fix the sending bug with files over 100-200kb (It worked fine when testing)

Cheers!

Jaxbot
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
Hey Jaxbot I just installed the newest bug fix version but it doesn't seem to want to work on my tp2 after I hit connect. I get this error screen about netfw 3.5 etc but the other version didn't give me any such probs.. rather odd hmmmm.... and I have netfw installed cause it came cooked into the rom im using idk :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
This happens only on the new version? The only thing that *should* be different is the way it handles file sending.

Have you tried disabling G-sensor on the main screen? That might help isolate the problem.

What does the error screen say?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
The error says something that I need to install NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm.cab

but thats weird b/c our last version worked for me after I'd hit connect and im sure in this cooked rom im using from Ark has it cooked in... IDK why this is happening odd :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
I strongly suspect that the G-sensor driver is missing, which should be included, but I'll double check the CAB.

Does disabling the G-sensor solve the problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
no disabling the G-sensor didnt seem to do the trick so maybe double check the cab?? idk
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Well that's a bummer... I was thinking maybe I hadn't included the gsensorsdk file in the CAB, but I guess that's not the problem.

I'm releasing a new build soon, if that doesn't work, I'll start seriously debugging, because this doesn't really make sense.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
I hear you, I'd have to agree with you as well b/c from one version to another idk how the latest one flakes out on me when the last one didn't... well im def. looking forward to your next release of it!!! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dtrieb:
if have the same problem and the details are:

It`s a socket problem but i have internet connection!

But only i try to connect the public server!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
TBH, looking at my server logs (the server logs incoming connections only, not any data that was received), there's been a sharp decline in connections, and most disconnect after connecting.

The new build SHOULD be released today, and I'll double check that the server itself is functioning properly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Released new version... see first post for download.

Hopefully this will work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mhrc4:
I dont get an autoupdate when connecting to the server with ver 0.5. It just connects, no questions asked...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Version 0.5 did not support auto update, so it will not recongnize the server's complaints. Version 0.6+ will. :)

Thanks for the heads up though, I'll mess with the protocol a little next build (because some packets are garbling sometimes), and thus older clients will not be able to connect in the first place.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mhrc4:
well that would make sense then.

Thanks again for this, looking forward to the GUI updates, autoconnect, all that fun stuff. The application has real promise.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
The latest version has auto connect.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MRFERRARI23:
Hey Jaxbot seems like this newest version works well on my phone without the error screen i was getting on the last one so thats a plus :D looking good im going to try and see if i can successfully send something with a friend in a dif area and ill report back :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Glad it's working! Keep me posted.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Unless someone says otherwise, the latest version seems to work great.

Until some nasty bug shows up, I probably won't release any new versions.

Special thanks to all those who helped test it :) I owe you guys.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
owe us?

We are the ones that owe you. thank you for your hard work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jdmsohc22:
I've downloaded the most current version from your posted link and I still get the error that was going around before... an both TP's have NETFW installed... And upon first open it says "Failed to connect to server." And as soon as I hit "pair" it white screens me with the error... Both are CDMA TP's one stock rom an one RZ Sense2.5 rom...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Is the data connection connected, or WiFi connected, at that time? The app will not auto connect.

Sometimes (more often lately, but I will be replacing a bunch of equipment tomorrow afternoon) the server's internet connection is down, but it was working fine at 8:22 PM according to the console.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mhrc4:
so no new versions until 1.0 with the new graphics? ;)

great app, thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Unexpected release-Important:

Thanks to Comcast, my server IP has changed (I never knew it was dynamic, since it had been the same for... several monthes).

Anyway, Comcast only allows people who pay lots of $$$ to use static ip.

So, long story short: You can no longer connect, and the old client will not auto update.

To fix this, download THIS client:

http://windowsphonehacker.jaxbot.com/files/shake2send_client.cab

Thanks. Again, I am really P.O.'d, because I just lost 90% of my users. Thanks, Comcast.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mhrc4:
what about using a dynamic DNS application, and having the client connect to that DNS entry, and not a direct IP address?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Like DynDNS? For the time being, I simply changed the build's IP address it attempts to load. I didn't have time to figure out how to work the DNS lookup (to connect to a domain and not a IP address), but it should be able to auto-update once I fix it.

Hopefully tomorrow I will have a dynamic release set up. Sorry again for the inconvenience.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
New release!

Sort of an unexpected release, but it's here!

The CABs are now handled by Visual Studio and not QuickCAB. Long story short: Shortcuts are better, and it supports installing to Storage Card!

Some artwork changes, Dynamic DNS support, bug fixes, etc.

-About the artwork: Yes, the artwork is very dull. I am by no means an artist.

If someone has some ideas, feel free to PM me.

Also, if you feel like donating, I have a button here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
does not down load

followed the link to your site, agreed to the terms of service, pressed download, was thanked, but no file was downloaded.

Did i do something wrong?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Thought that might happen. What browser do you use? I'll change the code around, then give you a link. Sorry for the inconvience
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Ok, try it again. If it still does not work, I'll just give the direct link to the file on the main page.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
working now

thank you. the download is working for me now. BTW i use Chrome.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chaoscreater:
i haven't tried this app yet but how does this work? If u say it doesn't use Wifi, how does it send files, using the normal GSM or 3G network? Does it still cost money or is this free?

And i don't want to some rude or anything but what's the point of this app, is there really any practical use for it?? If we have to connect both device at the same time and shake it, just to receive a message, we might as well talk to each other since we'll be relatively near each other anyway.......kinda pointless imo.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
1. It connects to the server using 3G or WiFi, whichever is enabled.

2. It is entirely free.

If you have a contact filled out with name, phone number, and email address, it's faster to shake the devices then to fill out the information.

Also, with file sending, you can share pictures that way too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
...and

...and the developer did not mention... -you don't have to be in the same room. If you are talking to a friend on the phone and he is 100 miles away and he had a file you need on your phone- you can both "shake to send" and exchange files.

so i don't see it as pointless myself.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
You can also click Manual Pair and enter their ID.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alnug:
Hi just used the app and it is very promising!! :) nice work just want to bring to your attention something.

I have my device set to power off after 1 minute and when this happens it disrupts the connection, is there a possible improvement so that you keep the device alive if running the program? presently I am using Mortscript to keep the device from powering off while running...hope this helps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
I will look into this, but from my experience, the device powering off does indeed kill some connections (at least ActiveSync, I know).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alnug:
Hi just back for some more feedback. I've noticed that when closing the app that it doesn't actually close it still runs in the background and you can see an instance in FDC taskmanager, you actually get a few more instances if you run the app again..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Yes, I've noticed that sometimes too. The app clearly runs Application.Exit();, but apparently the connected socket locks it up. It also attempts to disconnect when you close it, but even that doesn't always work.

I'll continue to look into this, thanks for the report :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike2nl:
It likes me very interesting this neat app. Is there a list with friends online? Or which people are online? Or it is only communication between some people. I think about some gyus here from iran with peoblems to receive donations, very bad law for us coders. I will stay in closer contact withe some people here from XDA. So about that my questions.

Or we can have one line in our signature some like that, please take a look in mine ....

EDIT:

It is possible for the future release to have a chat like funtion or short text 2 send?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
I think some of these requests are getting off the point. While they are good ideas, the point of this application was to make something similar to Bump. Having a list of friends online, or having chat functions, would pretty much just make this any other method of sending files (MSN).

The point is to be able to pair WITHOUT knowing your friends user name.

Not being to be rude, its a good suggestion, but the point was for two phones to click together, and no other mess.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike2nl:
Hi Jaxbot,

you are nor rude. It was only a to short on information. Now i know it better. We can send files. And there we can change information.

I was yesterday sometimes paired with someone i don't know. Crazy....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Really? Hmm... the chances of that are highly unlikely, as the server is only active like every 2 hours. For example, right now the last connection was at 3:14 AM, and it's 5:05 now.

Also, come to think of it, the server allows you to pair with yourself, for development reasons. I'll disable that this afternoon, but you really shouldn't get paired with strangers...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alnug:
Hi Jaxbot...just want to give some more feedback...i like the app how it is nice and simple..just purely to send contacts and files....best to work on increasing speed and stability would be key...

I also experienced being paired with an unknown user...possibly myself..didn't check the username properly i just saw it was not the username on the other device i was trying to pair with

Few questions:

- I have a HTC Jade which doesn't have a g-sensor, if i go into options and deselect the g-sensor option and save..the username changes (this is fine) but then i find it difficult to connect to the other device also a HTC Jade. If i reboot and don't bother going into the options to deselect the G-sensor then it seems to pair more effectively...

- how does the send file dialog find files? there does not seem to be an option to pick say the root directory of the Storage card for instance? Maybe can use a directory structure like how resco explorer does it for file picking?

- How big a file is it possible to send at the moment,I tried to send a 200K zip file but although it was received..i think it got corrupted

- I guess a progress bar at some point in future?

Thanks for the work and hopefully will be testing a new version soon :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
1) The client detects if an HTC G-Sensor is working, otherwise it just runs as if the G-sensor is disabled in settings. Are you sure this isn't a coincidence?

2) I did not make the file dialog, it is part of the .NET framework. And yes, it sucks if you have lots of files (like me), but I don't have a lot of time on hands to design my own dialog.

3) The file sending does have trouble. The limit is 5mb, but sometimes (lots of times) the file will get corrupted in transition.

4) Yes, that would be nice. If I can continue development, I will work on the file transfering. However, life's busy at the moment and there's lots of work to do.

In the mean time, keep giving me feedback to think about.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alnug:
any update to this jaxbot?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Unfortunently not at the moment. It's one of those times in life everyone has that just don't seem to stop nagging you.

Once I get some time to myself, I'll get to work on fixing transfers (hopefully).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alnug:
yep fully understand...thanks again..will look forward to updates :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike2nl:
With the file shake2send.cab in the download must be somthing wrong (corrupt?). win ce cab manager says: this is not a windows ce cab file. Win rar sees only a file without any ending.

Have someone the same problem? It is possible to fix that issue?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Seems to work for me, but it might be an issue with the way PHP is starting the download.

Try this direct link:

http://shake2send.jaxbot.com/shake2send.cab/shake2send_client.cab
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] newhtchd2:
Can't find it! Site is 404! Ne link?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
This project has since been discontinued, but if you still want to host a private server, download it here:

http://windowsphonehacker.com/files/shake2send_server.php
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darrenmc168:
bump compitable ?

Just a quick one, does/will this work with bump on an android phone aswell, or only with another shake2share wm app ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
No it does not, as I do not have access to Bump's servers for obvious reasons. Also, for the time being the app is offline, as I've been having major server difficulties (aka Comcast sucks). But once I get my dedicated back up and running, I'll see about putting this back online.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thepolishguy:
I think that would be cool. Still subscribed bc I think this could really be awesome for WinMo.

I know the Marketplace is lame- but if you could get this one there I bet people would use or even buy it.

I know -it is not about money - but a little extra wouldn't hurt :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lowliver:
Hi all, first excuse me for my english i m french,

i have a probleme on my HD2 with shake2send, on the opening of the soft it s trying to connect but i have an error message "DNS doesnt work, is data conection enable" ? how can i resolve it ? thank you for your reply (dont forget write simple my english is not perfect lol thanks!)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
Probably because the service has been offline for some time now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lowliver:
data connection from operator is active, but do i need to make a connection between the soft and the data connection before start the soft ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jaxbot:
No, not the operator. Shake2Send's server has been offline. The project was discontinued for a number of reasons, time being a big one.

Simply put: It's not going to work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lowliver:
oh ok so is there a Wm6.5 application like bump to exchange with htc desire with bump?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pietpodlood:
This looks awesome but its not working yet for me, I get a message 'DNS lookup failed. Is Data enabled?' and I checked it is (at least I think so, the 'data connection' in the comm. manager right?) Also Wifi is turned etc. but still no luck... any help