yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
well i have it installed now as well, glad I don't have to soft reset after software installation. I can select ringtones (don't know what ever caused that issue in the first place).

I don't have problems yet but will let you know if I find any
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
I did a hard reset, im doing a hard reset again, we will see if it happen again.

I hold u up-to-date ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
Found another bug.

When I go to the photo tab, and tap on Albums, then the bottom meu is dissapeared, and I cant select the album I want to, or make an album my favorite.

Greetz,

Josh
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
Patensas, I do not know anything about cooking roms so I do not know how you got all English packages in Dutch ( since there was no official dutch 2.53 rom) but will the official dutch rom help you in maintaining your kitchen ? ( official dutch 2.53 is here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2117)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
WHAT?

HTC bring out a official ROM with Manila 2.5 for Topaz? :|

I didnt see it on the HTC website :O
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
My Hero!! :D

It was just hard work getiing all packages in Dutch...........
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Well it was allready here but not in Dutch.

Still i think it will be an older Manila version than i used for Cheetah.

Will check it out
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
This will be caused by a missing Dutch Language file and i will solve it in no time ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
Ha ha you missed out on that one ? There is manila 20113030 which was "unofficially" released by htc (asian version) thath build was especially made for TOPAZ ( and yes it is an official htc rom) and there is 2012xxxx which is the official manila 2.5 for Rhodium (also from HTC so not a leo port) ...The advantages of the rhodium version are the font size and it is slightly faster than 20113030 ( that is, I think it is)

And no it is not on the htc site yet, but believe me, it will in the coming months ..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
Me too :P

Because then I stick with the official rom for a while.

Maybe when there is something rlly new (But not for Topaz official) then Im gonna install ur custom again ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
I think you are right .. I am almost finished downloading it, but I guess it will be 20113030 from the 2.54 asian base ..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
In the coming

MONTHS?

So that means what now already is released on htcpedia, the same stuff comes in about a few months on the HTC website? or will the one on the HTC website be different?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
You go stick with the official, we'll just start pimping and tweaking it over here ;)

Do let me know what you think about the manila 20113030 version cause most of us hate the font + size in it

Also it will ( as i asume ) be OS version 21887 which is not as fast as 21889 or up
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
That's just what I said.

if there is coming something very nice, but its not on the official, then I go back to your m8 :D

Ur ROM is kinda the best custom ROM for my Topaz, that's for sure ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
Yes that's what I am saying .. The official dutch upgrade to 6.5 for the topaz was aslo released by tom codon on htcpedia at least weeks before it was on the official site. The update you will see on the official site will be no diiferent from the version you can download now.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
No hard feelings just my thoughts, i've seen all officials come by ( but this time for the first in Dutch ) and none lasted for more than 30 minutes on my phone :D

Flashing official Dutch right now, first fault allready appeared just as it did with the WWE versions.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
That rlly sucks ass!

Anyways, the official ROM is getting ready for first use right now.

I will tell you guys about wich Manila it is and stuff like that soon ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
this does mean there will be some cooking to be done tonight :cool:

Finaly all packages are available in Dutch
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
Ok guys, I've got it running here!

It has manila 2.5.20113030.0

And Rom: 2.53.404.4 (76952) NLD

Radio: 4.49.25.91

It runs nice also :O
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
:D It is almost done flashing ( just couldn't resist) but I think it will be 2011 ... but no worries ; Patensas I think you can exctract files from official roms ?? Because there is also : http://htcpedia.com/official_dutch_rom_update_for_touch_pro2/soft/htc-rhodium-rom.html?page=1

Which is the official dutch Rhodium update !! I guess ( not sure because do not have a rhodium) that will be the 2012 you are using right now in cheetah
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Yes it does but how about the font size?

Is it still bigger, does the text cut of in settings tab?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
More good news!!

Yes i`m using manila from Rhodium for it's speed and font size.

Now all ìm using is available in Dutch and it will be piece of cake creating the Cheetah i always had in mind.

Damn what a shame i have an appointment tonight :mad:

Glas it's no dat so it won't last untim past midnight

Also when they fixed font size it will be a great base for the speed tweaks ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
:cool: Okay can confirm it .. same 20113030 version that we have seen here before ..including the cut off text in settings and 21887 base.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
Yes its still bigger, and yes... some texts still cut off in settings tab.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
So there`s work to be done :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Did you notice verbindingsinstellingen stating My Dad's Phone or Vodafone as choice for connection settings???
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
Yea, I saw that... very weird O.o

What does it mean? XD
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
HA ha yes , was wondering what my dads phone was ... Send you a pm patensas
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
read and answerd it allready

Thanks!!

Well it does look like there's been some changes in it since the WWE version Topbar icons are different for starters.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bebo20aug:
Official Dutch ROM with Sense

Can I extract files out of this HTC-Pedia file, rename RUU_signed.nbh in topaimg.nbh, put it in root of micro-SD and flash this.

There is a SPL.nbh in this build so i fear a little bit my hard-SPL will be gone.

Ben
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
I will put this ROM on my phone as well, I am really curious to the official HTC version. I never had issues with the official HTC roms. The bigger font I can live with but I can't live with a rom which uses that stupid (non-useable) contact carrousel and I hate these stupid envelops in the email overview (which makes it impossible to read any part of the email ).

I will have a look on how stable and fast this ROM is but I will keep an eye on your thread as well cause for me it will either be an official HTC rom or the good and fast cheetah rom.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
Patensas, since you are going to use the official dutch rom as base, could you also leave the htc black theme like it is in the official rom? I really dislike the small scrollbar on the right side and the fact that there are no arrows at the bottom and the top. It make scrolling with my fingers a lot more difficult..This is purely personal and if you like the small bar so be it :) But it doesn't hurt to ask :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Actually i`m testin the new "TopaT 1.0 Nld" at this moment, small changes made in it ;)

Fully based on the Dutch 2.53 rom

_ changed manila

_ added speed tweaks

_ added taskmanager

_ added Soft Reset

_ added Wifi Router

etc...

Left the OS version as it is for now

So actually nothing out just more in :)

Oh and personalized to my needs

_ changed menu grid

_ stuffed all away in folders ( clean start menu )

etc
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
:) Okay .. Looking forward to your new rom , stock is just too slow.. Did you also have troubles adding the newest taskmanager 2.1.19213731_17 ? I ended up installing the taskmanager 2.1.19183631 which gave me no troubles at all ..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Well i will serve a new rom called "TopaT" and keep working on Cheetah.

I`ll leave TopaT close to stock and fully packed, optimised as much as possible and keep Cheetah for the speed and cleaner Rom

I do like the 2.53 rom with some minor adjustments but i can`t stand the manila in it :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
Agreed , especially the font is awful .. But I think it's great that HTC is giving us manila 2.5 for the TOPAZ .. Most phonemanufacturers do not give that kind of support .
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
I know this would be giving issues but since i did change manila no issues for me
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
That's why i stick with HTC :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
I have to say that from my point of view the stock rom isn't even that bad. However, when you publish your new rom I definately try it and then I will make a decission between cheetah, your new rom and the stock rom :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Well i can only say, try for yourself ;)

personal thoughts:

Stock is nice but i hate that manila in it

Cheetah is fast but has to mis out on some things

Topat will be like stock with some add-ons | Diff Manila | and faster :D

Roms are way to personal to tell what's best, all we can do ( or at least i`m trying ) is to come as close as possible in providing one for all of your needs
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
Mijn Locatie (My location)

This this just mine rom but I installed 31b today and mijn location is not working, also not the location setting app.

Must update my rom again or is this a known issue?

Greetz
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] joshoon:
Did u turned proxy off?

If yes... then go to weather tab, tap on Menu, then there is something to enable my location, in the menu.

Good luck ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
Proxy was turned of, but enabling via the menu did the trick!

Thank!!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
In Cheetah you must enable "My location" before it works

Go to your weather tab --> Menu --> Mijn locatie inschakelen

If you're using Vodafone as provider you should disable Proxy in settings menu

( location service does work with proxy on, others like live messenger don't )
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Michiel0211:
ETA on your TopaT rom?

Oh, and any tips to minimize homescreen lag? 3.1b feels sluggish with 3 programs shortcutted and weather on my location. Any tweaks and tricks for this? I know Duty's 7.1NLD managed to fix it. But I don't know how.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Both Cheetah 3.2 Nld and TopaT 1.0 Nld will arrive within the hour ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
It works now

Enabling did the trick, but in settings (instellingen) Location (lokatie) this application is wrecked?!

Common issue?

(PS: Very fast reply, i'm impressed haha)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
Thats greet news, is this with OS .887 or .891?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
Michiel,

I disabled the weather animation, that helps a lot.

I use the following reg setting:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]

"Home.WallpaperMode"=dword:00000002
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
TopaT will remain on 21887 for now

Cheetah still on 21891
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Should not be, will look into it before releasing Cheetah 3.2 Nld
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Michiel0211:
That disables the fullscreen weather right? Already have that gone by setting a non-animated wallpaper under animated section.

Any other tweaks maybe?

EDIT:

Also, I noticed what's causing the lag. Weather is fine, fullscreen weather is fine - but the sluggishness starts when I add programs to the quickbars. First 3 are okay, but as soon as I add a fourth it starts to get slower with every new program I add. Very weird. So it's definitly a performance loss with the quickbar.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
You can also try to disable the flip clock (don't really like it)

There are a couple of ways to do that, one is using a tool called Gaz TD2, see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=536410

Or google and you'll find a lot of way to do this.

(I still see clouds when I have a non animated wall paper, therefor I disabled this function via the registry...)

Greetz
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
Another issue with SMS found 3.1b

Hi, maybe before you release the lastest version (waiting for it to test)

When I receive a SMS and select it to read in the sms tab, the number 1 stays on the SMS tab?

Opening the sms doesnt work etc, can this be causes by Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2.CAB because with the cab, the mesaging app from 2.5 works oke (fast enough)

greetz and happy coocking...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Well without any cabs installed this issue doesn't show

guess it must be in Zenyee`s cab

As far as i know i read about this issue before, on of the nags from Zenyee`s
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Disabling things as animated weather and clock flip is discussed more than once on XDA, it's personal prefference if you want to disable them and there's a lot to be found on how to do it.

Will not consider doing it the kitchen since i like it and the lag it causes is one i can live with
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Arie_Nu:
patensas, this was not to add or disable in your roms, just some one who asked to improve the speed of the home tab.

This was not a request for a change in your rom

I do sometimes help other users :-)

PS: ETA new rom, waiting with my TD2 in my had to update my rom...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
I know it wasn´t a reply to you at all just a simple way to let you all know how i feel ;)

I feel i have fixed the location service bug in settings, coocking Topat 1.0 Nld now, flash in a minute to see and then release will follow.

give me another few minutes to work it out and i`m sure you´ll have a nice rom comming to you :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Cheetah 3.2 Nld & TopaT 1.0 Nld

Both online, first post updated.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
hi patensas,

can you explain what the main difference is between the two roms? never understood what the differences are between toutchflow, manilla, sense, etc?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Main difference between both:

Cheetah is based on OS Version 21891

TopaT based on OS Version 21887 ( as delivered in Official release )

Cheetah is kinda undressed ( standard apps removed / Ringtones etc. )

TopaT is close to stock and all apps etc are kept inside.

In the future Cheetah will be more undressed for speed and TopaT will be the one for those who want a more close to stock rom.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
ok so no real HTC software difference? i will try both when I'm home but think I will go in that case for cheetah. i do like the stock rom but it feels a bit slower

ps, is there a mobile version of this site? i react on my phone but it isn't ideal this way :-)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Well TopaT is left closer to stock, but isn't as slow as stock rom.

It still is optimised for speed :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
ok now you really confuse me :confused:

So what is then besides the OS level the main difference between the two? Why would you choose for one or the other? By the way I can't see the link for TopaT yet (or was it not released yet)?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Ok lets try again :D

Cheetah is optimised in all ways, speed tweaks, left outs, customized startmenu etc.

TopaT is only optimised with speed tweaks, rest is stock.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
Hey Patensas , any reason why you removed the link for Topat ?? I already downloaded it , and wonder if there was something wrong with it ...If so I didn't notice it :D been playing around with it for the past hour ..

:) I like what I've seen so far from Topat, gonna flash cheetah 3.2 now to see which has my first hand preference ..

Goed bezig !
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
ok cool, I'll try both to see which I prefer. Is it correct that topat it not yet released? (no download link)? I prefer to flash that one first since I have a big feeling that I will stay to the great cheetah versions. :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Did you try to make a call with it??

TopaT will return ( i kinda like the name ) but there was something wrond with the dialer
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
Didn't that work? well as long as the rest works :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
well i didn't notice it either but after a while playing with it i had to make a phonecall, made it through the call but screen was messed up. Perhaps something to do with 3rd party cab i installed but want to be sure before giving it back to you ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
:rolleyes: euh hmmm no I didn't .... PLayed around with a lot of things , but didn't make a phonecall ..ha ha can you imagine it's a phone and i was satisfied with all the things it could do while there was something wrong with the initial function of the phone : making a call .. feeling a bit dumb now ..:p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
I don't want to put more pressure on you :-) But do you have any idea when you release it again? Take you're time (don't worry) :) but otherwise I start with flashing to cheetah instead of the other way arround
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
sssjjjjjjtttttt i won't tell if you don't ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
It's cooking now, need to flash to check, if it's oke i`ll release again.

Can be in a matter of minutes if everything is ok, if not it will take some time.

Do flash Cheetah first, i kinda have a feeling you will like it

I'm flashing TopaT now :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
Does Cheetah also have other packages compared to the stock rom ? I for instance noticed that quickgps in the stock rom is different from the one in Cheetah ..So I wondered if there are more packages that are different ? Also noticed the dialer is different .
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] grox:
first of all thanx for updating these ROMS so quickly. Yesterday evening I flashed the 3.1b. This one is already very stable, quick and, in my opinion one of the best, but now these 2.

Can you tell me the main difference between 3.2 and 3.1b? Has there been really a lot of changes, or is it some change, so no need to update? One or some changes for speed i don't mind. When there is really need to update I will. But I have to reconfigure everything, take me some time.....

Are you planning to release another soon, or will this take some more time? I will check the 3.1b, test it for this week and flash the next free evening I have to the last rom than available.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Actually the main difference between 3.1b and 3.2 is the photo album bug and some speed tweaks. Just wanted to have both ( Cheetah and TopaT ) as bug less as possible.

Couldn't stand the thought of releasing TopaT before Cheetah was ok
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Yes some packages are different stock is all Topaz Packages and Cheetah uses also a lot of Rhodium packages.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] grox:
OK, thanks for the quick reply, I'll wait for the next update next week, or so :)

no need to update right now! Perhaps gonna test your new ROM, very curious about this!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
hmm I am having a hard time choosing between the two versions .. Both are great to use .. Cheetah's speed is a bit faster , but I also like the stock feel of topat with the boosted speed ... choices choices :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Haha that's it make a choice :D

In the future differences between both will get bigger so there will be more to choose.

Just right now i fixed the dialer issue on TopaT and will upload it again.

Link will be available within 10 minutes
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Danzka:
I'm gonna try both Roms... Time to flash :D but I think Cheetah 3.2 is the best :p. Is video call in Topat of in Cheetah rom...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
It can be in both TopaT has the right dialer for it and i left it out of Cheetah.

But i can however provide a cab file if you do want it in Cheetah :rolleyes:

Link for TopaT 1.0 Nld is up again

Now it's out of the kitchen for me, been here way to long :o
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
I'm in love

I'm in love and her name is cheetah ;-)

This really is a great ROM although I liked the stock rom this one is so much faster. And although it is no showtopper to me, I do prefer the smaller fonts.

For me however, I would prefer the bigger scrollbars but that is just how I feel :D. Don't know if I will try topat also but we'll see, I would prefer to keep a ROM for more then a day for some time now :p
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Ok Boys,

Remember this thread is about 2 different roms from now on, when you notice a bug or think things can be changed let me know. However do remember to tell which rom it`s about!

As for this moment both releases should do fine and the differences aren't that big, this will change in the future!!

I`m staying on TopaT 1.0 Nld for now and see how it holds, actually i`m kinda curious to know what this one does for the battery :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
TopaT holds the HTC Black theme and has the bigger scroll bars so if you want them you should try TopaT ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Nico van der Linden:
well... even if I love cheetah... it wouldn't harm to try another rom as well does it :D I will let you know which I prefer.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
Also manila used in TopaT does run Max Manila and other thing that doesn`t run on stock manila, so it's not only the font size but there is more ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bandis710:
:rolleyes: hmm well since you mentioned max manila .. It didn't run properly on the cheetah 3.0 and 3.1 series .. It didn't render errors , but there where setting options missing on the hometab, so setting another wallpaper wasn't possible .. Seems to be a problem on all non wwe roms , there was a solution ( something to do with homepages.xml or manilafull.xml) but never got it working .. gave up on it , because I like cheetah more then Maxmanila :)

Didn't mention this before because it doens't have anything thing to do with your rom ..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] patensas:
I've had people asking for it and tested ( briefly ) noticed it didn't run on stock **3030** manila but did run on 20121225. Never did a hard test, just figured it was working since this manila doesn't have compressed files :rolleyes:

But i can imagine it would have problems with backgrounds and things like that in non WWE roms since the files are placed in different folder.

And YES you are right, it has issues on changing wallpapers ( on TopaT )