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[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defaria:
As the OP of this thread I was anxious to try this out - but I had been in the process of moving so I'm only now getting back to this. Alas it didn't work for me. Yes I can remove the HtcMusic.apk and I have installed the Headset Button Fix. But pushing play on my headset does not stop or start the player I probably will be using most - Google Listen. You see I listen to podcasts most often and Google Listen's pretty good. It's also free and in the market place so could you download it and try it?

Also, what "player" are you using that works?

As for headset I use the Sony Ericson HBH-DS980. I love 'em! They work very well and are quite convenient. I fail to see how they would be different than any other Bluetooth device. I mean isn't an AVRCP pause control the same for all Bluetooth devices?!?

Other questions:

. Removing HtcMusic.apk removes the HTC Audio Manager music thingy, but you should probably remove that HTC Music widget (com.htc.MusicWidget.apk) too.

. As an installer, couldn't you rename HtcMusic.apk -> HtcMusic.apk.save and com.htc.Music.Widget.apk -> com.htc.Music.Widget.apk.save on install and rename them back on uninstall?

. It would be nice if this could be set up to auto start - and perhaps get rid of the little icon for those of us who would like it to always be running in the background

I would like to work with you - perhaps offline - to get this working for me and all other HTC Hero owners who might have a Bluetooth headset and want to use Google Listen, etc. You can contact me at adefaria@gmail.com.

This just in - I installed MortPlayer to pick a music player to test with. It works! AVRCP works with MortPlayer - just doesn't work with Google Listen! Wonderful! :( Who do I complain to now? Is it possible for us to debug this?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androcheck:
hi!

was having all the same problems (but with mixzing, I do not know Listen). This nice app makes me happy again about having bought a bluetooth headset! :)

@uninstall/rename:

AFAIK it's not possible for an application to rename/uninstall other applications on install. Additionally the HTC player is not installed in the "normal" app area, but under /system/ (that's the reason why you cannot uninstall it the standard way).

So I assume there will be no easier option than doing this as root via adb.

and @icon:

on my hero I can deactivate it in the preferences

and yes: autostart on headset connect would be nice! :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androcheck:
Ok, tried today with Google Listen:

Seems to work partly (while having Headset Button Fix running). It does not react on the Play/pause button, but "Stop", "Next Track", "Previous Track" seem to work for me (while listening).

As far as I understand this is an issue of Listen but I am not sure about this. What they definitly did not implement is to react on AVRCP when the app is not started yet (some music player do start up then). To do this the app would have to register a BroadcastReceiver via its Manifest.xml file which it doesn't.

Maybe somebody could test the Play/Pause behaviour on a different phone (not a Hero), where AVRCP works normally. If then the behaviour is the same, then probably the Listen app is to blame.

hope that helps.. :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] defaria:
Pause/Play is all I really want. My Bluetooth headset doesn't have a Stop button and Stop would be the wrong thing to do as it would loss my place in the track. I cannot for the life of me understand why this is so difficult nor why one would implement Stop/Next/Prev but not Play/Pause!!! Makes no sense.

Then again I still haven't figured out why Google Listen seems to be behind WRT podcast feeds. For example, I use Banshee on my Linux box. I've subscribed to, for example, Security Now. Banshee shows and has downloaded the latest episode. But Google Listen? Just has a refresh menu selection. Select that and it thinks for a while but no new Security Now episode. Why does Banshee know about it but not Google Listen? Aren't they both going to the same source RSS feed? Shouldn't they both recognize there's a new episode?!?

Who do I contact exactly to submit bugs/etc. for Google Listen?....

Ah here's the link: http://listen.googlelabs.com

Note they say:

Note the use of the term often! :( Ugh!

Guess it's off to their forums...

Anybody know of a good podcatcher for Android that works with AVRCP?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmszabo:
(a) solution for audio manager problem..

A solution (I know, not the beauty price:)) to solve the problem of parallel controlling audio manager and music player (in my case museek), w/o rooting my fone, and deleting audio manager:

I've recorded a nice 3 minute piece of SILENCE with recorder, named it SILENCE, and started audio manager with playlist 'my records' (only containing before mentioned silence recording). Following, start Headset Button Fix (great program!), and Museek; result: although headset still commands audio manager aswell, it only skips/ replays/ forwards the silence recording, and my music on Museek is OK, replay-able, forward-able.. I knows it's a noobie's solution; but it works! (for folks, who like me, don't want to root their Hero)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roman G:
I guess at some point I need to learn this ****! I have been trying for the last 2 days to do this and don't know how to go about it!

I am rooted, got fresh, and gumbo going, so could some one help me out with this!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
ftp://burtcom.com/esperOS/

--slow home server, so be patient. Also, it might be better to use a FTP client (like FileZilla) to download instead. Use logon anonymous with your email as password.

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UPDATE TO THE UPDATE: OK I didn't cook it properly, which may explain why some apps, notably Office apps, would just quit. I just uploaded a version with no recmoding, and using Modules instead of Files -- so it should be more stable.

UPDATE: with ahmedfikry doing a fine job with the 235XX branch, I decided to stick with the 282XX series, so here's a new build of 28205, with the native kernel. Still includes include XDA_UC -- for info see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3611692

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esperOS is meant to be a tight, no-frills lite ROM suitable for those using SPB Mobile Shell, or those who just want us much RAM as possible to install your own cabs.

It is also brand-free, there is no 'esperOS' in the startup screens. I want it to look like a stock HTC ROM.

Please refrain from asking for additions, unless you can make a case that it is essential for phone operation

As for the stuff that's there, let me know if you find a newer version that can be cooked in -- I tried to keep all the HTC goodies.

Please report bugs.

Includes Office 10, NetCF 3.5, Widgets engine (but no widgets, install your own), Chome, DRM

Apps:

Accessories folder: Bluetooth Explorer, File Explorer, Notes, Tasks

Connections folder: Dopod SIM Manager

Games folder: Solitaire

Media folder: Audio Manager, AudioBooster, Camera, Pictures & Videos, Windows Media

Navigation folder: QuickGPS

Office Mobile folder: Excel, PowerPoint, Word, SharePoint OneNote

System Tools folder: ActiveSync, Internet Sharing, Search

Calendar

Contacts

Internet Explorer

Messaging

Phone

Control Panels:

Personal: Buttons, HAC Setting, Key Lock, Owner Information, Phone, Sliding Sound

System: About, Certificates, Clear Storage, Device Information, End Key, Location Settings, Managed Programs, Memory, Microphone AGC, Power, Regional Settings, Remove Programs, Screen

Connections: Advanced Network, Comm Manager, Connections, Domain Enroll, Eternal GPS, USB to PC, Wi-Fi

Bluetooth

Clocks & Alarms

Home

Lock

Sounds & Notifications

ftp://burtcom.com/esperOS/

--slow home server, so be patient. Also, it might be better to use a FTP client (like FileZilla) to download instead. Use logon anonymous with your email as password.

No screen shots -- looks the same as any of the base 6.5 ROMs floating around.

Caveat emptor! the usual warnings apply -- use at your own risk, etc.

esperOS is built with OndraSter's fabulous osKitchen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dyanrengga:
screenshot please...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
No screen shots -- its plain standard CHOME, in the staggered layout.

Will update the first post with whats included later,-- its a very lite 101MB ROM
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lunicell:
Thanks a lot! I will try it

Very like Lite ROM
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ahmedfikry:
does it have UC (user customization)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pdileepa:
Thanks for the ROM. Exactly the kind I am looking for.

I flashed it, but noticed that selection in Contacts list takes a press of around 2 seconds. Same thing in all other lists.

But buttons in the bottom bar (Windows, OK, X etc.) react instantly. So do Start menu list and CHome screen items.

[Update: The problem in my case was TouchFLO scrolling was enabled. I don't know if I enabled it accidentally or if it is the ROM default. Fixed by disabling it using Advanced Configuration tool.]

--Dileepa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lunicell:
Also in SETTING options

Another problem : when change theme press OK ,it is dead

My radio is 1.70.19.09 HardSPL is 3.28
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cpala:
Hi,

Happy new Year

Burtcom i try your new rom today, what about the sleep and death problem?

What is new on the new build 28205 ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
The long-press is for some screens is a "feature" for 6.5 -- I think they did this to facilitate finger-presses, but I agree it's too long.

To be honest, I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 with this ROM, so I use SPBs contacts, etc, which do not suffer this problem.

As for switching themes, I just did it and it worked fine. (though it took a few seconds)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
So far so good -- but I've only been using it for 24 hours now :)

As for whats new, not sure, I've been watching the main ROM thread to see what folks have discovered.

It does seem nice and fast for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pdileepa:
Found a fix for my long press problem -- TouchFLO scrolling was enabled. Works normally after I disabled it. I am not sure if I enabled it or if it is the ROM default.

Switching themes works for me too. So no issues there for me. @lunicell should give it another try :)

Thanks a lot for a clean, HTC-like ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Jasperkins:
Nice and Fast...

I was looking for a fast 6.5 ROM that I could use with Mobile Shell...this works great!!

The only part I cant get to work is the Themes color changes for the Icon Bar. It always stays black :-(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] doomscooter:
Hi Thanks u for ur rom

This ur rom is 3G dialer? thanks u
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thesecondsfade:
Fix to the Touch Response Problem

I love that the esperos ROMs are very light, but I just can't stand the touch responsiveness in the Microsoft programs (file explorer, etc.). I installed a Kaiser Drivers CAB from TPC's CAB Downloads and it helped a bit. You can try it out if you want.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DJHile:
For some odd reason after installing this ROM I get constant vibration if I receive a text. I even flashed the stock ROM before flashing this ROM. I'd like to run SPBMS on this ROM and install Cabs to my liking but first I'd like to get rid of the constant vibration. The only way I can get it to stop vibrating is by turning the phone off or doing a soft reset.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
I'm not getting this problem with texts -- anyone else?

Could be a radio problem? I'm using 1.70.19.09
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DJHile:
I will flash and try right now!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] w4551472:
details or screen shots please

cant wait to try this lite rom and install my cabs

i would like to know more about this rom

SO would you please post some details or screen shots

THANKS
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Jasperkins:
No problems here

I just flashed my wifes and mine with this ROM. In fact I reverted back to an official ATT ROM first, then flashed to this ROM. I am running radio 1.71.09.01 too w/o any issues.

I tested the incoming sms, and just a single vibration- as it was setup to do.

The only issue I have is with SPB Software and Themes. I cant get the icon Bar to ever change from Black :confused:

Great ROM!!

Running:

Radio: 1.71.09.01

ROM: esperOS 28205

SW: SPB Shell 3.5, SP Keyboard, Kaiser Drivers CAB from TPC's CAB Downloads
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DJHile:
You were absolutely correct... wrong radio. I didn't realize that the pkg I was downloading to re-flash the stock ROM included a different radio with the ROM. I had the 1.7 radio before and when I flashed back to stock it went to a 1.2 radio. I should have checked that...

Just as a side note... I've had no sleep of death issues at all!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pdileepa:
Solution for Marketplace error

For those wanting to use Windows Marketplace on this ROM, use the fix detailed on Fuze Mobility to resolve the "We encountered an error while trying to reach the Windows Marketplace server. Would you like try again?" error message that Marketplace displays.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lunicell:
pdileepa & burtcom, thanks a lot

when i have flashed HardSPL3.29, Switching themes is fine

This is useful:) but i feel it scrolling is not smoothly
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dreamstate83:
Do the settings for input (turning off word suggestions etc) seem to be missing in this rom or is it just me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
You're right, what the heck happened to them? I'll ask in the main ROM thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
There's a fix, use registry editor and remove the bogus "redirect" in HKLM\ControlPanel\Input

I'll try to get this fixed in the ROM and a new build up tomorrow.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lim1279:
I appreciated if you could include 'Connection Setup' in your next release. Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ahmedfikry:
hello burtcom

thanks for your work..waiting for next release

can you please include the fix for text bug in opera mini...if you unzip the attached file & replace the one in COMMON/Shell users will be able to enetr text in opera mini (a known bug)....replacing this file from older build fix the problem without any other effect

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
Will do :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
Is this an HTC EXT package? do you have a link or some more info?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
new version up...

See first post -- the new version has replaced the old on the FTP server.

Includes fix for Opera Mini, Input control panel is back, and I've set the AKU for Windows Marketplace.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ahmedfikry:
hello burtcom

thanks again for the new rom & for including the fix

i flashed & i can say it is fast, light & seems to be the best i tested so far

not to mention it is the newest build

which kitcken oven do you use?

i cook roms for other devices (did not cook for Kaiser yet)..and i cook them light like this

I usually make my roms UC (user customizable) where they are flashed light but they can uto instal cabs after first boot from the memory card that are stored there in a folder named "XDA_UC"..also can auto instal contacts & registry tweaks this way

I cook UC with my roms...see if you can use it to make your light roms user customizable too (which does not affect speed or size when cooked)

again all over excellent

i think only lil adjustment is to add nicer icons to start menu..but thats an easy fix with "icon changer" anyway

one last thing:

if you take "PhysicsEngine.dll" from common/shell earlier builds you can get smoother scrolling & a nice bounce effect back

i can share that older dll with you if you like too
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
Fixed version is up...

I made a mistake with the SkyMarket fix -- just uploaded a new version with the fix fixed correctly :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
Thanks -- I'm using Ondraster's OSKitchen

Thanks -- I'll look into that :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
I was worried a moment ago -- I went to turn on my Kaiser, and nothing happened...

I thought, "Oh crap, sleep-of-death has returned..."

But then, after about a second, it woke up.

Anyone else notice this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
AutoConfig version now available...

I've just uploaded an AutoConfig version -- I won't be able to test it anytime soon though, so if some AC expert could give it a go :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Keland44:
auto config as in user customization?

lol crap you keep uploading new builds i keep putting off installing this new 6.5 one

anything else you got planned before i try and install this new version?

good job though
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
Nah, I think I'll take a break for a while :)

(unless someone reports a bug)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Keland44:
actually now that I think about it when i send emails on 28002 it doesn't auto sort/detect when i start typing in contacts is that working in this build where it will start to sort based on information typed in? i usually have to go and start searching for the contact i want

no biggy but a nice feature ya know
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jasonbtx:
Rapidshare

Could someone upload this rom to Rapidshare? The home server has to many connected users right now. Thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
I really don't want to sign up for a rapidshare account, but these are good for 10 downloads each...

http://rapidshare.com/files/330981582/esperOS_28205_AutoConfig.zip.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/330981584/esperOS_28205.zip.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] eidros:
Dialer bug?

Hi, does this rom use a skinned dialer, like the HTC's or stock MS dialer? anybody seeing the 'dialer' bug with this 28205 rom as in many others?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
This one does not used a skinned dialer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hellbrandt:
Great ROM, but not suitable for SPB Mobile Shell

This is a great rom, clean and functional - just what I was after.

You said this is ideal for SPB Mobile Shell - another plus for me. However, I have abandoned this rom because with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, the shorter height of the top task bar means there is a gap at the bottom of any background image - an when flipped to landscape mode there is a gap beneath the SPB controls.

How does SPB Mobile Shell look for you? Does anyone know of any solution to this problem? I'm after an efficient solution, ideally not something where I need to change SPB template files.

Keep up the good work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Beackman:
Hey Burtcom, any chance to have a 85MB? is more usefull with 3D drivers.

And the rom is fast great work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] saydaman:
I think you must upgrade your SPB mobile shell 3.5 to 3.5.3.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hellbrandt:
Thanks for the speedy response. I did try it with version 3.5.3 of SPB Mobile Shell - still didn't solve the problem for me. Is anyone else having this problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
SPB 3.5. has been working fine for me from day one with epserOS.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] CoreyC:
Hi. I flashed the 28205 autoconfig version of the ROM onto my AT&T branded Tilt which I'm using on T-Mobiles network and I've encountered two problems:

1) Using Radio 1.65.21.18 the signal meter indicated that I had a signal, but I could not make or receive calls or send (or receive?) SMS messages.

2) I just flashed Radio 1.71.09.01 and I can now make and receive calls and receive SMS messages, but I still can not send SMS messages. Any ideas?

Just found one more:

3) Volume control doesn't seem to be included in this ROM.

Otherwise, I REALLY like this ROM. Thanks for all of your hard work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
Thanks :)

I can send sms OK

I also have the volume control -- mind you its the plain Windows Mobile one, not any HTC control.

Try the regular version and see if that works -- I don't use the autoconf one myself
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
23518 build now up.

23518 is up -- I haven't flashed it yet because I like 28205 :)

see first post for link.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ahmedfikry:
your server is asking for username & password???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
If you're using an FTP client, yes it will!!!

As mentioned on the first post, it's standard anonymous FTP, username anonymous, password is whatever :)

( I had this info on the original link on the first post, it's now also on the new link on top)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol#Anonymous_FTP
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ahmedfikry:
Thanks

I am downloading now & will test 23518 soon

here is the "PhysicsEngine.dll" from common/shell of earlier builds

you can get smoother scrolling & a nice bounce effect back if you put it in place of the new one in shell folder

have a good day
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ahmedfikry:
ok flashed & testing

but immediatly noticed couple of things:

- the Settings/system/about...says OS 23515 build 23518, you can fix this to have matching numbers by using the attached file to replace the one in you ROM / MSXIPKernel folder

- the screen says "Beta", you can remove this by going to Common/Shell & open the "1f1aca24-d942-464a-9281-10567741499c.rgu" file by notepad then deleting 3 or 4 lines for the regisrty key that say: "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\DeviceBeta"

- you are using Auto Config, for installing cabs after flashing, you may want to consider XDA_UC which allows you to do more in my openion & it is also comletely silent & works in the background...i will also attach my kitchen oven folder so you can use it to cook your roms

- i can help you fix how the icons and shortcuts look....send me your "initflashfiles.dat" file that comes from OEM_Lang_0409...and the "mxipinit_startmenu_001.provxml" from \Base_Lang_0409 and i will work on them

- the volume icon in the drop top taskbar is gone because you now added new volume control...i personally prefer old MS regular one, but you can adjust the icons from shellres.dll in base_DPI_96 with "Res Hacker" but i just think you should get rid of new one & keep it "light"

will wait for your updates :) thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] burtcom:
Wow, thanks for the report :)

Interesting about XDA_UC vs. AutoConfig -- I'm such a noob I thought they were the same thing. Yes, UC is the way to go and I'll put that in all three flavors of epserOS first thing.

[I see you have the M700 -- I still have mine :) Great device, though I got tired of not having enough RAM