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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] finsmaniac02:
Do the rilphone dll cabs affect this? This is the only thing I can think of. I have 1.02.25.32 radio flashed and I install the cab for it after a flash too. Other than that, just standard apps/mods to sense and stuff... I don't know what could be affecting this, maybe a bad flash I guess?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nkrick:
I just moved from NATF 4.7 (WM 6.1) ROM to the Sense 2.1 Build 21899 ROM. I have been delaying going to WM 6.5 for a long time because the NATF 4.7 was so stable. So far this ROM is pretty good, but have a couple of issues.

First, after having it installed for about 5 hours, after a soft reset the phone would not boot, it just hung at the splash screen for 10 minutes or more until I finally performed a hard reset. So far this has not happened again, but I am watching for it.

Second, the G-Sensor Auto Screen Rotation setting seems to be backwards. To turn off the auto screen rotation, I had to set the toggle switch to "On."

My only other criticism so far is the lack of .Net 3.5 CF being pre-installed. I also think that it would be valuable to keep Advanced Config pre-installed (I like to tweak the power settings and the Data auto-disconnect timeout).

It would also be nice if you would provide .cab files for all the HTC and AT&T utilities that you strip out of the ROM, so we can install anything that is "missing" that we want without searching all over for it (for example: MP3 Trimmer).

I'll post if I experience boot problems again...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
This is usually due to a bad flash (NOT the ROM itself). It is recommended that you flash back to stock before flashing a custom ROM to ensure any device corruption is cleaned up. But yes, keep an eye out for it, if it happens again.

The toggle in Manila should not be used for rotation. This ROM uses Flip_IT, which has its own Settings for rotation in the "Applications" folder. Auto Rotation in Manila should be switched off (even though it usually shows as being on by default).

Perhaps you misunderstood what I wrote earlier. All of the ROMs (were supposed to) include .NET CF 3.5 by default. The only ones that don't have it now are the 21889 Sense 2.1 builds (I believe), because I didn't notice that the source SYS I used was missing it. All of the other ROMs have it, and any future 21889 builds will as well. The only reason I didn't bother re-cooking those two is BECAUSE it can easily be installed by CAB, which is a lot less work than me recooking them.

If you notice, I've been posting CABs of these apps as people request them. I have a real job, and I do this in my *spare* time. I don't know if you realize this, but it takes quite a bit of time and work to do this, but if you want an MP3 Trimmer CAB, all you have to do is ask for it.

As people request these CABs and I make them, I will put a post of these "Add-On" CABs on the first page, which I have been remiss about updating (hopefully I'll have some time tonight to do so).

EDIT: Since I assume your mention of MP3 Trimmer means that's something you wanted, I'll attach a CAB for it here (installs to the Multimedia folder).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stoobie-doo:
Captain - I see you are using the 1.14.25.35 radio on your personal device. With 2.5/23518, does a matching rilphone.dll need to be installed, or is it already cooked in? (I am still obsessed with solving my problems with "My Locations" and Stock updates in Sense and wanted to see whether I could rule that out as a reason it isn't working right).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
The 5.11 rilphone.dll (shipped w/1.14.25.35 Radio) is cooked into all of the Fuze ROMs. So that shouldn't be your issue. Have you tried the original (stock) Fuze rilphone/Radio combo, to see if that improves it at all? My original Fuze shipped with the 1.02.25.32 Radio, I believe, and there should be a rilphone CAB for that also. I can't imagine it would make anything better, but it couldn't hurt to try, I guess.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stoobie-doo:
I never changed radios from stock to NATF to your flash, but I'll see what happens. I have bigger problems though. After a soft reset, I saw a new error message telling me the phone could not boot and to press send to reset or any other key to try to reboot (which gave the same message again). I am going to reflash 2.5/23518 and then see what happens.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
I highly recommend you flash back to stock before reflashing the ROM. It should get rid of any corruption issues (which is what the errors you're describing sound like).

EDIT: Link to HTC FUZE ROM Download Page
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stoobie-doo:
I will this evening when I have more time. Quick question since my memory fails me. If I flash back to stock, will I need to re-install HardSPL before reflashing?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Nope. Hard-SPL will remain :).

Here's what I recommend for the 'cleanest' stock-back-to-custom ROM flashing procedure (this is what I do when I start having weird issues):

1) Download stock ROM.

2) Run stock ROM .exe, and flash.

3) After flashing is complete, at 'align screen', hard reset device.

4) After hard reset is complete, at 'align screen', put phone in Bootloader (reset + Vol-Down).

5) Flash custom ROM from SD card, or connect device to PC while in Bootloader & flash using Custom RUU.

I think that way eliminates most of the possibility for corruption to occur. Hope it starts working better for you once you're able to get through the process. I hate to see my ROM users having trouble.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nkrick:
Thanks. Reflashing back to stock if the issue happened again was my plan. I just mentioned it in case it turns out to be some sort of incompatibility with an app I have installed (I know I didn't include a list of apps, I am installing them gradually to see if the issue happens after a specific app).

Ahh...interesting. I have not used Flip_IT prior to now. It is still worth noting that if I toggle the G-Sensor auto rotate to "on" it completely turns auto rotation off. Perhaps a problem between Manila auto rotation and Flip_IT? or is this by design?

I saw that .Net 3.5 CF was missing from build 21899 and thought it was missing from both Sense 2.1 and Sense 2.5. Since I didn't see this noted in the todo list, I thought your plan was to continue to leave .Net 3.5 CF out of the 21899 builds...

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend... I realize that most (perhaps all) of the xda chefs have real jobs. A real job and 3 young kids is what has prevented me from cooking my own custom ROM... I wish I had more time to look at (and understand) a kitchen and how to cook up a ROM.

Thanks. I haven't even had a chance to determine exactly what is "missing" that I want to install (MP3 trimmer was just one that I noticed was missing since I use it to create ring tones). A list of add-on .cabs on the first page would be great (whenever you have time is fine).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stoobie-doo:
Well, there definitely is some corruption going on. After reflashing (without going back to stock) and sync'ing back to my laptop, a new soft reset led me back to the alignment screen and setup yet again. Looks like no shortcuts is a good rule to live by.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peeps:
Cap'n, I am not finding "Long Press End Key" in the System settings menu. Buttons shows Long End is mapped to EndKey, but nothing happens.

Fuze - M2.5 23518 ROM
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dalek_Caan:
If this is what you are looking for. the End Key setting are in the buttons app under personal settings, slide two screens over from the main one
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
This is actually by design. Flip_IT uses the SensorSDK4, but also has it's own DLL & Settings that will conflict if the stock Auto-Rotation is set to "On".

I will update the To Do list with this information :)

It's all good. It's taken me quite a while to get here, believe me.

Done :).

The End Key settings are a tab in the "Buttons" Settings applet. And now that you mention it, it's not working for me either (but I know it was previously). I'll look in to it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peeps:
Ahh...I never would have found it! thanks guys! But as Cap'n said...still not working on my specific build (Fuze M2.5 23518 1/15) but was on the 23518 M2.5 1/12 build. Looking forward to the fix...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Bruce Inman:
Nice ROM

Kudos! I left the Raph for the TD2 but gave it to my son.

Thought I'd pop in to see what's cookin' and saw you had posted a ROM.

Excellent port of 2.5, minimal issues.

Way to go Captain! :D

Just to clarify, using The Captain's Special (23518/21889), if I am having landscape issues in SMS when deploying HW KB, I need to disable manila rotation and flip-it will take over?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stoobie-doo:
Not sure if this is a ROM or a Sense issue - but in 2.5/23518 I somehow ended up on the Internet tab of Sense and could not get out of it within Sense. I could get to the program menu and launch other things, but no where else within Sense or to the phone dialer. Soft reset fixed it, but sure would like to not stumble onto that again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] pkley:
The latest 2.5 & 23515 is automatically locking the phone when I turn the screen off (virtually every time). I can't seem to find where to configure this. I believe that that's why my PocketPlayer is switching off after about 60 seconds, but not certain. Any thoughts?

Other than that, fantastic ROM Capt TB...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
It's set that way by default. I like it that way because it makes it easier for me to make sure I don't press buttons by accident. That can be changed on the Settings tab, under Personalize, Manila Locker. There are quite a few options that can be selected.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] superpc:
I realise that somehow the WM6.5 menu scrolling isn't that smooth compared to some other 6.5 rom I've used before, is there anyway to speed it up? Not that it matters, 4 icons per row already makes scrolling not exactly neccessary, but it's nice to have more speed eh :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] webbahboy:
Great ROM

This is a terrific ROM!

I very much appreciate the fix of the Sense WM app -- works perfectly with my bluetooth headset. I have been using TAEL's ROMS, which are also very good, but this one edges out his 23518 version with some of the tweaks.

I really like the SENSE locker -- but it does seem to run interference with bluetooth headset use, calls, etc. For now I have it disabled, but will try it again while monkeying with some of the settings.

I was also amazed - the Footprints tab came very close to actually working!!

Thanks to you, Captain -- happy to be a donor.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] InvAzN:
good for you! How did you manage to make it work? cause on a GPS Picture with HTC album you are supposed to get a 4th options that says sent to Footprint or something like that but on a VGA screen you only have 3 options (go back, sent by mail, publish on facebook). I saw 4 options on a Touch 2 WVGA screen.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Still working on this. It seems to be working on the Sense 2.1 ROMs, and as you mention, it WAS working on the Sense 2.5 as well. I just have to figure out what's breaking it, which is going to be quite a process :(.

I'm sure there are registry settings that affect the kinetic scrolling. But depending on which build you're using, the scrolling is actually different. The COM2 builds scroll differently than the COM5. If you find anything to spped it up, let me know.

Yeah, that Footprints 'fix' is a Mortscript workaround, thanks to NRG. But it still doesn't work just right. I'm sure we'll figure it out some day :rolleyes:.

I'll post over in the Sense 2.5 port thread about the Locker stopping audio streaming over Bluetooth. Once amarullz gets back from his honeymoon, perhaps he can look into it. I think I'll also ask him if he can fix the position of the Dialer (if I can't get a fix from pyrorob).

Thanks for the donation. I've added you to the Donations list on the first page :).

That option exists in the Album included in the ROM. You have to press to the far bottom right of the screen to get the Menu that lists it (because it's hardcoded to WVGA, you can't see the button, but it's there). I'll try and take a screenshot of it, when I get a chance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] knitron:
I found the CAB but it won't let me install it until I uninstall the newer version on the phone. I am not sure how to do that, I don't see it in remove programs.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Hm. Try installing this instead: http://www.mediafire.com/?ommgm3gz13z (thanks to tboy2000 for the upload). It may not be the actual framework that's the issue; it may be this particular component that's missing. See if that will install, and hopefully, if it does, it'll solve your problem.

See below screenshot, taken on my 23518 Sense 2.5 Fuze ROM:

You have to press on the far bottom right to get those options (as the VGA screen isn't big enough to show all 4 of them).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] InvAzN:
Thanks Cap' I tried that and got it, the only thing is that after I set my picture as footprint, I cannot see it in my footprints tab? any idea why?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peeps:
I am loving the normal day-to-day speed of your Fuze M2.5 23518 ROM but once it a while it does hang...no biggie since M2.5 was not meant for these devices and I accept that. Realizing that the M2.1 port now has many advanced features of M2.5 (calendar and email tabs, homescreen weather, etc), the people tab is the only real preference I have for M2.5. I don't really need the people tab...I only keep it visible on M2.5 ROMs but prefer the standard WM contacts.

If my research is corect, the only other major missing piece moving from M2.5 back to M2.1 would be losing the social networking support (FB, Twitter, Youtube, Footprints) including the Album support aside fom M2.1 Facebook integration? But I would gain speed and landscape Sense support?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] InvAzN:
It's okay for the Footprint issue, I found a workaround.

Have to take a simple picture (non GPS one) then set as footprints and then after that ONLY, set the GPS coordinates.

Cheers mate, hope it would make some people happy ;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hedcayce:
This may seem dumb as I'm probably the last person on the planet that still uses it, but is there a way to reenable the "phone keypad" option for text entry or did you remove it entirely?

I installed another keyboard and it was working fine, but when I'd switch back and forth between keyboards I couldn't shut off t9.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dalek_Caan:
I have a People Tab question - I have not had time today to do a thorough search yet to look into it but thought I would post it here in case an answer is know - When i add contact to the people Tab Shortcuts after I add a couple I loose graphics and have a screen full of white boxes, is this a know issue or a glitch? More of a curiosity question since I don't really use the tab but the contacts instead.

I am just going to throw out my opinion if you don't mind. I used Cap's 2.1 Rom pretty much since he released it, and just in the last week or so switched to the 2.5. Besides the differences you mentioned (which I think you were correct on them all) I find the speed to be comparable on both ROMs, I have not experienced any hangs, and at least in my experience battery life is better for me on 2.5. I personally don't miss landscape support since i really only used it for messaging and that is in 2.5 build, and as for people tab as i said above I have looked at it but prefer to have my softkey mapped to All People on home screen. I guess that is my long winded way of saying that unless you need landscape or the hangs are too much to deal with I think 2.5 is the way to go.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dalek_Caan:
I am also a fan of the Phone Keyad so you are not alone. It can be enabled using EZInput Sip Menu under tools, however I have not been able to get it working correctly yet. Just curious when you said you installed another that worked fine did you mean a working phone keypad or just another full keyboard option?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hedcayce:
Apparently it was another full keyboard. It was "BJK_HTC_EzInput_VGA_Gullkbd_0409-rc2" The only issue I had was that When I wanted to use the hardware keyboard it was stuck in T9, I'd have to switch back, disable T9 and then slide it back out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peeps:
I have seen some weird graphical issues on the M2.5 People tab as well for the little squares in place of the graphic in the bottom corner of each contact.

Thanks for the feedback on M2.1 vs M2.5. I don't use landscape much, but it is nice to have things fully functional when showing off the phone ;) Having used WM since about 2003 or so, I m used to some sluggishness when I try to do too much (or sometimes just random simple things ;)) and for the most part, things are running great with Captain's M2.5 ROM. Just in the last couple days it did a couple really strange things and taking sometimes over 30 seconds to respond to keypresses and screenpresses and got me considering M2.1. I wasn't sure if it was a general WM issue or due to the stress of running M2.5. I hate dropping features after I get used to them, so I will probably just stick with M2.5 ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hedcayce:
Got it figured out working beatifully. Read back through the thread. You can install that cab and use it in t9, then on the HW keyboard hit FN- Right arrow and turn t9 off for it.

Works like a charm:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Yeah, that seems to be the only way to make it work. Doesn't make any sense that you can't just add a GPS photo to Footprints, but it must have something to do with the Leo camera hardware. At least there's a workaround, for people that want to use it.

You can select it with the SIP Menu shortcut in the Tools menu, but it doesn't work right.

I have seen these graphical glitches. I'm not sure if the cause is because the graphics have been CFC'ed, because of ported files, or because of the system resources that Sense 2.5 consumes. Whichever it is, I haven't found a permanent fix for it, but it is a known issue.

I agree with this assessment. For some reason, my Sense 2.5 ROM is quite honestly the fastest ROM with Manila that I've ever used (2.1, 2.5 or older). And i really have no idea why, but I find it awesome. That, and I really like the Manila Locker Mod for Sense 2.5 made by Kisja & amarullz.

I am going to try to get those SIP options working; however I don't think it'll be possible to fully have the hardware keyboard working, and have all of the EzInput SIP input options working as well. For me, the hardware keyboard working is more important. If others feel differently, let me know, and I may be able to come up with a fix that makes all the SIP options work, but breaks a few of the hardware keyboard shortcuts.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peeps:
Grrr...I wish I could figure out my Manila Locker issue...I loved it until I wasn't getting my push mail. You are still not seeing that issue when it has been in standby for a few minutes? I may do a clean install this weekend and test that first before installing anything...

Hardware KB working 99.5% or better is paramount for this device, IMHO...if you do come up with a "fix" for this, I suggest it be an option cab and not installed in the base ROM...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dalek_Caan:
What cab are you refering to? I have tried I think all the cabs and still cannot get the EZinput phone pad to type anything but numbers. If you have it working can you share what you did?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
I actually haven't tested my Exchange e-mail disconnected from data prior to locking, and letting the device be locked for a few minutes prior to sending a test e-mail. I'll check that after this ROM flash I'm in the middle of . . . :p

Agreed. The reason most of us have Raphaels instead of Diamonds is because we want a working hardware keybaord. Right now the hardware keyboards should be working 100%. Any changes I make will decrease that percentage. Since you mentioned 99.5% . . . is there anything NOT working on your hardware keyboard currently?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hedcayce:
this one, if it upped. trying to do it on my phone. if not ill send it when i get home.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peeps:
well, you just made my day...I said 99.5% because all the other EzInput installations I have seen on the Fuze did not have Fn+Sym support. I guess I have been out of the loop and hadn't tested it, just assumed that was something I would have to live with using a ROM with EzInput...

but I just tested on your ROM and IT WORKS!!!! :) Good work!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peeps:
New ROM??? ETA? I wold love to just flash a new ROM instead of flashing such an ancient ROM (1/15) to retest Manila Locker!!! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
I'm just flashing some test ROMs to see why my Long Press End Key isn't working. I don't have anything new to release . . . yet :p.

Sounds like you need to attend a ROM Flashers Anonymous meeting . . .
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peeps:
ahh...ok...hopefully you can track that down...good luck! Fix that and I'm not sure there is much else to tinker with! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hedcayce:
Sorry dude, no such luck. Keep getting upload failed. I'll up it when I get home from work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Here's something weird. I re-cooked my Sense 2.5 Fuze ROM and flashed it, and now Long Press End Key works again. But I haven't changed anything. This doesn't make any sense.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peeps:
well...if SBSH had kept up with the times, I would never flash as much as I have recently. Now, without a bunch of their apps and phonealarm and loading skins and config files for each of those after a flash/hard reset, etc, flashing is about an hour process for me to get my phone setup since I am using Sense to cover alot of the functions I relied on 3rd party apps for. Also, Sense 2.5 has really stepped up the PIM usability in the absence of a fully functional PocketBreeze for WM6.5 in the days of touch use and eyecandy.

My flashing may slow down if Amit finally keeps his word and releases a game changer...word is that a revamped PocketBreeze release is looming that is fully wm6.5 compatible. If it is a keeper, I may not have to seek out the latest and greatest to get the most out of my phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] peeps:
maybe a conflict with an app? Did you retry a fresh install of the 1/15 ROM?