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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] babbelut:
this app does not start when I add it to my kitchen and add 'xtask.lnk" to the startup...

I can see it starts up for a second and then disappears... I want to make a rom where this app starts when windows boots up... HOW? :s
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] soma900:
The request of both of you are noticed. I will tell the author and discuss it. Happy new year 2010 and thanks for supporting Xtask.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] soma900:
I think you might use registry to set it to "AutoRun XTask". But I am a nut on programing. If this can not work out I will ask the author to help you to solve the problem. Happy new year 2010 and thanks for supporting XTask!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] babbelut:
I already added this to the register... Are there any authentication/certificate problems?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] noellenchris:
2.16 is out and seems a little cleaned up w/a few more options...:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Farmer Ted:
Lol, here's my 2.15 package. It runs xhook at startup. Just swap in the 2.16 exe's to upgrade, and maybe change the registry keys if there are any new ones. The start menu option is turned off. (Edit: Just remembered, I added the X icon to xhook and I screwed around with some of the menus, if things seem weird, lol. That's why I didn't post it earlier-if you want to run 2.15, you may want the stock xtask.exe in there.)

I just added a 2.16 package, with no reshacking involved, lol. I can't guarantee that all the reg keys are correct; there may be some new ones needed.

@babbelut

I really doubt the xtask not running at startup issue has anything to do with certificates. It won't run for me in the background at all. I'd recommend just assigning a soft key or button to launch it, and run xhook in the background.

Edit: I don't think there are any new registry keys in 2.16, however the position fix is over-doing things. It does fix a couple apps that I've had problems with, but it also messes up a couple by pushing the windows up too far, when the didn't need a position fix (Total Commander, eReader).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 4D3:
hi,

this download is dead, where can i try the latest version?

thanks

MG
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dwizzy130:
I just dl'd it from the post above yours (He did some stuff to it though) but I was wondering the same.

dwizzy130
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chinagb:
new xHook1.2xTask2.16

http://www.box.net/shared/0cv72i0ctx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] soma900:
Thanks for the first bug report of the new version. I heard from chinagb that, regarding to running xTask at background, only xHook constantly resides in memory. It occupies about 68k in the RAM. Whenever the menu is activated or setup started, xTask starts. When you exit the menu or setup, xTask quits. Chinagb wish to keep the memory use by the program at minimum. He said the other taskmanager program might use 100-200k RAM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tacchan23:
Just my opinion, to make it on par (or even better due to the extra functions) with Showcase:

- press the WinMo icon to launch the WM Start Menu; press and hold to launch Xtask

- option to choose which menu (TaskMan, Control, FileMan, Process, etc) is shown by default on opening the Xtask

- when Xhook displays icons, it should also hide/cover the name of the active application (like Indibar or WKtask)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kane159:
gsfinder+

例外頁變成這樣了

Xtask設置也變的很怪

很優秀,繼續加油

very good, keep it up:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 4D3:
Hi,

Im still not getting this, why is there so many different files in this thread!!! WTF?

first post gives this: xHook1.3xTask2.16aEnglish.rar

somewhere else you get XTask 2.16.zip

XTask 2.16.zip this is just a folder full of random stuff, and the rar contains 2 exe files.

What are there random files placed throughout the thread?

First post says

ok from where here XTask 2.16.zip or from xHook1.3xTask2.16aEnglish.rar?

It cant be hard to post the correct files and instructions can it?

MG
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Farmer Ted:
The one that I posted is a package for rom cooking; the .exe's are in module form. I'm not sure if it really matters or not, but I usually cook .exe's in that way. You can't use them as they are on a device.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] soma900:
Chinagb received the bug report and realized the "automatic fix toolbar" in 2.16 build is very premature. So he leave out this function but keep the clean layout which forms xHook1.3xTask2.16a.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scottspa74:
any other way?...

This looks really nice (but I dont know if I'd uninstall showcase for it). Wondering if there's any other way to get the files. I used the rar link to box.com, but it downloaded some file to my phone that my mobile zip reader cant open. Anyone help?.... please?... thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] soma900:
It is a RAR compressed file. You beed to unrar it on PC and copy them to the phone. In your case probably Farmer Ted can help you making a cab install file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] deepthroat:
what a development! simple fast and easy! please continue developing it - Cheers :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scottspa74:
thanks..

and, Farmer Ted...any chance...?

any Showcase users; I'm guessing I'd have to uninstall showcase for this to work, as showcase hooks to x-button, too- is that right?

@soma900, thanks for your super-quick response.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] soma900:
Will be glad to hear if it works together with Showcase!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Farmer Ted:
Here's a cab for 2.17. It puts the exe's in windows, and runs xhook at startup. Either soft reset to get it running, or click the link in the startup folder. There's a link for XTask in the start menu.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siealex:
What does the Shortcut tab mean and why is it always empty? I have a Russian version of WM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Farmer Ted:
I haven't figured that one out either, lol.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scottspa74:
thanks lots...

@ Farmer Ted, thanks tons for the cab. (I did eventually find pocketRAR, which appears that it will work to do this; but thanks for the cab/effort) I am nervous/reluctant though to try this out cuz I fear that if I try to install OVER Showcase that it will crash/freeze my phone in a way I can't fix. I suspect that I'd have to uninstall Showcase and re-enable htc default task manager ... (I can barely remember what all I had to do to get Showcase working properly, not looking forward to figuring it out again, if necessary/desirable)

Is anyone else on this thread using showcase, or know if this may work WITH showcase? Anyone have any suggestions, tips, advice, or ideas?

again, @ Farmer Ted and soma900~ Thanks for your work and responses. I hope to figure out a way to try this ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Farmer Ted:
If you're worried, just do a full system backup before installing. But I wouldn't be too worried. You can always kill showcase. FWIW, I have about 5-6 different task managers. Let's see, stock MS, AE Button, gscroll, dotfred's, sk tools, ishi task and xtask. Make that 7, lol.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scottspa74:
farmer ted, thanks for words ;) . I will get the nerve to try it, and will let all know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siealex:
Some feature requests :).

1. Tapnhold menus for the icons and the X button. Close, minimize, kill, close all, settings, xtask.

2. Swap the battery and memory gauges on the taskbar.

3. Erase everything under an icon before drawing it.

4. Some apps make xtask show TWO identical icons, e.g. Messaging or SPB News.

5. Task manager must be default when opening the main window. Not the file manager or controls!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siealex:
6. Do not kill today!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] parthabhatta:
This seems to be a very very potential app at a nascent stage. I installed this in my Acer DX900 dual SIM and found it working. But it seems to be a bit erratic sometimes. Anyway, can be developed as a very very useful app replacing quite a few apps like WKtask, Quickmenu etc as its developed further with very low memory footprint. Thanks to both ChinaGb and Soma900 for giving us such a great app in New Year.

As has been already pointed out and conveyed to the developer a WKtask like launcher (gesture controlled or otherwise) will make it more versatile.

There is a shortcut menu in Taskmanager which I couldnot put to use. If we can attach a few shortcuts of very commonly used apps under "Shortcut" menu of Taskmanager it would be wonderful.

Thanks and keep it up.

One more thing - How to o back to Today screen after minimizing an app if Today option is put under exceptions and not shown in Taskamanager.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siealex:
Clicking KILL in Today makes my device hang up. Is it possible to disable this item in Today?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siealex:
Beta 2: Do NOT remove the memory bar, it is very useful! Only move it down.

PS. What is [\] in Shortcuts? And is it possible to place the whole Start menu there?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siealex:
One more bug... when I select 'replace start menu' I can't use enhanced editing. Is it possible to call the enhanced editing menu by tapnhold on the Start icon?

I want to get rid of TWO programs, WkTask and QuickMenu, and replace them by ONE XTask.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
what I can see on my HD2 with Dutty´s rom is that I cannot "hide" the "start" application which is Manila-Sense.

If I am using"hide" for this one I am "killing" Manila and need a soft reset.

But it is very snappy!

Best regards,

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scottspa74:
I must be doing something wrong...

I haven't seen anyone else report what I experienced after unRARing files to a folder in 'Program Files'. Has anyone had success with this on WM 6.1??

I got it to run/open really sporadically. I uninstalled showcase, then used registry to re-enable htc task manager, and dropdown Qmenu. Then installed the .exe files from RAR. Maybe i was pushing in the wrong spot for the 'active area'. I was tapping screen on top right (where winmo6.1 x is for dropdown Qmenu). Everytime I tapped, Xtask would open for just a flash, then default htc Qmenu would dropdown, shutting down Xtask. Once or twice Xtask stayed open, but I don't know why, and could not get it to repeat and open consistently. When it stayed open, I WAS able to access 'options' and select auto-run, but that made no difference. Am I using this wrong or misunderstanding the application, ...or maybe need to change some reg values for htc task manager?

Any ideas or advice?, and anyone got it running on WM6.1? sorry to be a pain :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Farmer Ted:
You don't need the HTC task manager/quick menu running when xhook.exe is running. I think that is probably your problem. XTask itself doesn't run all the time-you need xhook running in the background, though. You should just try the cab I posted a little ways up.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siealex:
Disable the quickmenu's battery indicator and xtask will work correctly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] soma900:
about the "shortcut"

Chinagb gave me a tip. After activate the XTask goto FileMan, there is an A at the right of the each item, either a file or a folder. Click it will add the link to the Shortcut. Then you can run the application under shortcut.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scottspa74:
wonder if...

I did try disabling Qmenu settings. Farmer Ted, as for your cab, does it uninstall properly/easily (in case i choose to stick with Showcase)?

as for disabling battery meter in Wmenu, I do have a program that I had to install SDK Certs for to make my battery meter read in 10%s, but I'll take a look, thanks.

anyone make this work with winmo 6.1 ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siealex:
Where does xTask store uts Shortcuts?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] parthabhatta:
Great ! Tested and working in 2.17 beta2. Thanks for activating an unknown function. More like this awaited. Thanks Soma900.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siealex:
Also D means go to directory with this file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hoactaithien:
it's very usefull!

thank you very much for your application!

it's work well on my phone!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scottspa74:
+1

I did get this running consistently (except sometimes it applies my today skin, sometimes not, can't figure out why - that was when launching from today page which segueways into 2nd part of my comment) .

I was going to say that I don't like that you can ONLY open Xtask from today page and not from within a program (unlike showcas or which is important to me...then i reread thread and saw post about drag and drop from active area to open - brilliant, very nice app. Very comprehensive and well thought out. I do still have a few, minor, reservations, but very very nice, and I'm gonna try it for a bit.

How do you remove items from History tab? I couldn't find that in the thread.

Thanks all.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dunggiacat:
Can not quit calendar in some case

When i press X button in calendar or internet explore, it minimize the program instead of closing. (WM 6.5)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
For the size of the proramm it is absolutley GREAT!

What could be improved - or I haven´t figrued out the right way - is the way how I could exclude application from beeing shown in

xHook

and also in

xTask

For example is Thumbcal a standard application for me. I do not want to close it and I do not want to see the Icon in the task bar.

But somehow i do not find the proper setting to prevent Thmbcal from beeing visible in the task bar.

xTask:

I am using a HD2 with Manila-Sense and this has a application/process called "start" If I "hide" this one than Manila-Sense is gone to the background. But I just would like to remove it from the list shown in xTask.

How?

Best regards,

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nextpimp:
Tap and hold ... go to other and ADD EXCEPTION ... for manila and thumbcal.

I LOVE this app ... and would beg that you KEEP the runnning task icon in taskbar feature. Makes for VERY easy switching. And IMO... THEY BELONG THERE!!! This app is spot on PERFECT!!! The most powerful little piece of software ive seen in a LONG time. Im $old. :bows: The author has a follower here with THIS ONE!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scottspa74:
question

anyone know how to remove items from 'History' ?

I like the icons in the taskbar, but I like even more that xI can disable that so I can use the notifications in my taskbar. And the drag-to-open (from any app) is brilliant. Gonna keep trying this for awhile before choosing between Xtask amd Showcase

thanks to developer, soma900, and Farmer Ted, etc.

(how to clear history?)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] youngsien:
good apps, found a bug. this morning i'm trying to backup my touch dual wm6.5.5 28205 with sprite backup. As usual sprite backup ask me to do soft reset to perform backup action. As soon as it finished restart the backup process begin and after it finished the device automatic restart again. When i have xhook autorun, my device is freezing (hang) after restart and backup cannot be processed. leave it for a few minutes, nothing happen, keypad not working, the only way push the hardware reset button. Tried 2-3 times still give the same result. So i deactivated xhook autorun and the backup process went smoothly. Any clue?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
>Tap and hold ... go to other and ADD EXCEPTION ... for manila and >thumbcal.

This is excatly what I did, but Thumbcal is still visible.

in xTask I see 2 entried from Thumbcal one with the name and one without any name.

But I would like to hide it also in xTask itself not only in the Taskbar for 2 reasons:

- than the list is not showing items which I do not need to see

- no risk to close accidently Manila

What I will do is to delete the regitery settings and start from scratch - I updated from 2.17beta 2 to beta 4 just by exchanging the programm files, mabye this could be part of the problem.

So a "reset" button would be nice to bring all settings back to basic :D

Best regards,

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nextpimp:
If you used farmer teds packages to cook... some of his settings are in the app.reg. The following is mainlt directed @dingolino and boba23... First off. You cant close manila. I've tried. I was afraid of this too as i map the middle bottom hotspot to close all. Running tasks in the taskbar... and the ability to switch between them.. or close one without opening... Or close ALL without having to go into a seperate area IS WHY im sold on this program. Like... what good is a task mgr if you have to OPEN it too see whats running. I like Xtask cause it shows whay i may need to close.

Xtask on my rom runs pretty much hidden. I dont See it.. unless something is open. I was going to ask the author for the icons to populate the other way...From L to R instead of from R to left. But I came up with some settings i can live with. So now all i do... is set the icon number to 7 and slide the icon position all the way Left. You can cook these settings in using Farner teds reg (position=0 icon=7) but they WILL NOT stick if you open the setting prog. The icon# will.. but the slide position wont. You'll have to move that back to the left. The result of these settings should be that the first icon will line up just to the left of the messaging icon area And open programs will start populating from there to the left. And you should be able to "start a hook" anywhere in the taskbar LEFT of the messaging icon. It seem the original settings were meant to act this way but leave an area untouched for the COM2 start menu which is on top. Icon # is a key setting because it adjusts the width of the "start hook area" Just remember that thing populate from R to L and you should be fine.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Farmer Ted:
Here's a cab for 2.17. It puts a link to xhook in the startup folder (but it isn't set in the registry). There's also a VK package.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Xannytech:
Could be a very popular taskmanager on 6.5.X roms if the author will provide to hook the start key on bottom, not really difficult but i do not have access to the sources ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nextpimp:
I was thinking the same thing at first but now... WHY do that??? You only need to close what is open... and the start button is not "sacred" area. Apps like pandora come to mind... on 6.5.x this tsk mgr is the ONLY way to minimize pandora without opening another program FIRST (b4 pandora). Pandora move the whole start bar.. I do see there is a "force vga" option gonna have 2 play some more.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Xannytech:
why? ;) because i necessary it's stupid have a taskbar working on OLD WM 6.1 hook. the near future is wm 6.5.x and topbar its really busy with ms stuff and htc stuff, but if you find spaces to add there also that taskmanager you're welcome, but please don't block taskbariconmgr or ms magnifying function... you can't :rolleyes:? now you know why i asked to hook the start button, not to redesign all the program two small values to change :D

maybe you misunderstood me? i just asked to longpush start and have xtask appear ;)

And it's not true that WE need just to close the app that we open, someone else could need to switch between apps, or do others things that maybe YOU don't need
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Martinhdk:
I just pointed my homebutton to XTask and use that instead of the terrible WM programs menu.

And here comes my idea, as I use Xtask as a programslauncher.

1) Could it be possible to have a setting of FULLSCREEN view of FILES - and even better; listed in rows, or alphabetically just like the GOOD old programs view of 6.1 or Manila 2.1 programs tab.

2) Is it possible to make XTask START on filemanager when launched?

That would make this an app of the super league...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nextpimp:
I have RE-READ this entire thread I dont think you're using xhook to its potential... I Understand that you dont want icon overlay... so on my 6.5x rom ... I push xhook all the way to the left. Where the old start was. So all I have to do to start a hook is start from top left. If you show 6 or 7 icons this way you also have a much wider "active" area .... pretty finger friendly on a fast close. You CAN switch between active apps, you can minize by tapping on icon, for that matter you can close a different app than the one your in. Xhook is like having the WINDOWS (desktop) taskbar. You can exlude items you dont want to see in XTASK in xtask settings, you can exclude items you dont want to see in XHOOK with exclusions ... whew ... you guys need 2 play a bit more i think. There are NO PICS of XHOOK in action in this thread... I may need 2 change that. It could use some refinement .... Full screen option for XTASK would be nice. Map to long press start option eh OK i understand desire... its just that some apps remove 6.5.x bottom bar. quite a few but Pandora is the one that is preventing me from thinking of the others. A map to long press start would be useless in that app as there is no start. Had that issue w/showcase. For that matter I love the fact i dont have to open a program to see whats running.. you can close anything or everything from the taskbar
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bh77a:
@ nextpimp,

Yes, some screenshots would be great. I'd love to know more from seeing!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nextpimp:
I dont have any programs open .... but here .. This shot is from an instuctional set for my ROM.

This is what the screen looks like when you're USING xhook. I have show free ram enabled. The white line is the "hook" I hope this will make some other settings make ALOT more sense for some people...There is a language barrier... but I speak geek. Fluently =D

With my settings everything to the left of the messaging icon is "xhook hot" So I pretty much just swype down starting top left-ish to whichever funtion I need 2 use.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rjmjr69:
Thanks will try this on my stock sprint rom
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] soma900:
Chinagb is going to make a big change in the next release very soon. He will use dll instead of soly exe as the program. In this way precess-killing program such as CleanRAM or Sprite Backup won't kill xHook thus avoid PDA hangup problem. This effort is in part in response to the bug report from this XDA thread, particularly to XDA member, youngsien.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nextpimp:
2nd try ... Xhook in action. Better pic ... this one closing a program in background, with a bunch of programs opens so you get the idea. I dont have ANY issues w/xhook and clean ram in 2.17b4, however I AM using re-moduled exe's
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] deepankerjha:
after installing ur app can't start the home screen pal.neither on manila nor without it
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nextpimp:
this happens when you "hide" manila as oppsed to adding an exeption. "lang barrier".... havent figured out how to unhide... When you hide the process runs just hidden from the user in the most powerful fashion... its like a FORCE HIDDEN so to speak. Like maybe if you wany to track your wife or kids, you set up rom to boot w googlemaps running, and tell xtask to HIDE it. If wife need directions or gps app well...she gotta use bing ;) Just an example

EDIT... To UNHIDE: Open xtask... move over to Windows tab. Find Start |C|Manila, long press on it ... then choose Show =D

Like i said .. you guys need 2 play!!! this is POWERFUL software. Only thing you cant do is edit the reg with this thing... lol. Its like he might as well add that to it too
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] siealex:
Is it possible to map the HARDWARE start button to XTask's Start menu? And is it possible to sort the Start menu alphabetically?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Abomb:
I really like it, keep up the great work!

One thing though: AppToDate support, that would be great.