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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] D.O.C:
got dmmnit, glad u got rid of it, maybe we can learn how it.doez stick to the rom like that n use it in other apps like smartprotect. congrats!:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Lizzo:
hi, do u mind sharing how u got rid of it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] PhilipZ:
I run this tool too, but after have no way to stop first try to read forum. Solution to stop program already is given from wmfreak. It is not need to make hard reset or to reformat SD card. Only things to do is to run program one more time and:

Thank you wmfreak
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fuzzysig:
i switched from blackberry 8900 only because it didnt have 3g so the internet and maps were slow...

otherwise it was a great device it was very quick OS

when i want to call someone i just type in their name and it gives me option to call or email or txt.

i open my pictures and brows thru them i have a menu option to use the image as a wallpaper or other actions

theres a camera flash

theres a 3.5 headphone jack

theres a trackball!!!!

i have never had to use two hands to do any operation on that phone.

every lil action could be done with one hand and that is the best feature of blackberry.

i understand this phone is not blackberry.

i do like the phone

i love the big screen and ridiculous resolution!!!!(something blackberry lack for now)

i love the speakerphone and the face down/spkr phone feature

i definitely love the free apps and other tweaks that are available for this device.

the regedit the file browser the millions of settings

the micro sd card being on the side

now the bad parts

the user interface is painfully slow and unresponsive.

to make a call i have to press the talk button then press contacts(because scrolling with your finger is worthless it will catch on first damn contact and start calling it right away)

and then you have to cancel the call and start over

this time thru your phonebook...

and to txt i still havent figured out an easy way to start a txt message for a contact from your recent calls or phone book

theres no button for camera shutter its a big ugly ahole looking image on the screen.

it is definitely not made for finger operation

i have to use stylus for almost everything

browsing without stylus is stupid.

the zoom bar works whenever it feels like and so far only in 2 programs

itsa windows OS and wtf theres no landscape or soom bar feature in internet explorer but they are both available in opera?? makes no sensei

the display is already loose even though i only tilted it maybe 15 20 times

theres no option to set wallpaper from image preview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like every other phone ( even motorazr had that feature)

please help me to figure this phone out
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ohyeahar:
1. Regarding the interface being slow, this is subjective. It also depends on what ROM you have. The ROM I have loaded is quite fast in my opinion.

2. You can also make a call just like a blackberry. When you're in the home screen, just slide open the keyboard and type the name of the person you want to call. The dialer will automatically launch and filter your contacts according to what you typed.

3. Easy way to text someone in your contacts. Go to the SMS tab. Tap the icon for new message. In the "To" field, just start typing the name of the person. It will autocomplete.

4. If you want to text someone you recently spoke with, open the dialer by pressing the call hardware button. Now you can see who you recently spoke with. On the right of each contact, there's an icon that looks like a contact card. Tap it. Here you can choose to call or email. You can also text by tapping on the icon to the right that looks like a speech bubble. That's 3 actions to get to the compose screen.

5. Yes, there's no dedicated button for the camera shutter. But you can compensate by mapping other keys to do the job. I've mapped the volume up key to act as the camera shutter only in the camera app. If you don't want to map keys, you can also open your keyboard and use the enter key as the shutter button.

6. My experience regarding the stylus is the opposite of yours. I never have to use it. I think it's because you need to understand how to use a resistive touch screen. Tip: apply pressure.

7. Zoombar is indeed limited in its usefulness. But it works in more than 2 programs. Just off the top of my head, it works in Word, Excel, Opera, Album, and Adobe Reader.

8. I never use Internet Explorer and, honestly, neither should anyone. So, I don't really care about it's features.

9. My display is still nice and sturdy. But experiences vary from one to another.

10. If you're using Sense/Manila/TF3D, you can only set your wallpaper via the settings tab or with HDWall. If you're just using the standard Today screen, it can be set via the Today settings or the WinMo default Pictures and Videos app. But I'm someone who doesn't change their wallpaper every other hour. So, this doesn't bother me at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sumflipnol:
Do you have the stock ROM or did you flash a custom ROM? Custom ROMs usually have a lot more speed, but some are unstable. Since you only have 4 days, I think you should only flash your ROM if you have at least 24 hours total of free time (to work out some kinks, and if you do return it, you need to reflash the stock ROM and stuff).

To make a call, just bring up the phone dialer (Talk/Send hardware button). To find names, just tap in the name in the dialer (ie. if you want to call John, just press/dial "5646" ["J" is in 5, "O" is in 6, "H" is in 4, "N" is in 6]; the phone is smart enough to try to recognize the name you want); you don't need to scroll down the whole list for John.

To text someone from the Call history in the phone dialer screen, press the small icon to the right of the name (looks like a business card), and that brings you to a screen with options to contact them.

Camera shutter... can't blame you there, but if iPhone pulled that off, I guess HTC felt they could pass that virtual "shutter" button.

**The key to maneuvering in the screen (resistive screen; needs pressure to work), is by using your nails. Think of your nail as a stylus, and you should be better.**

IMO, Pocket Internet Explorer is horrible (interface and speed). Opera Mobile is better.

Don't know what you mean by "image preview." Sorry.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fuzzysig:
well when im browsing thru images in album i can set wallpaper from there. because the default wallpaper setup program doesnt preview the images it just gives you the thumbs and once you click it the wallpaper is set...

the touch screen is the problem tho.

i dont have nails so alot of times when i try to use my thumb it will catch onto something and i end up waiting untill it processes through or wrong person dialing.

and the damn keyboard button is the worst i have to press it at least 3 times to get rid of onscreen keyboard.

i have itouch and its so much easier to use with finger especially when browsing.

internet explorer doesnt bother me i like it because it reenders webpages differently. i got used to it when i was learning web design since it would show most accurate page layout and graphics by default.

i was on stock TMO rom that came out of the box with the phone.

iupdated to EnergyROM_28011_RHODIUM_25.Dec.2009_StandardM2.5_MaxManila

and it is even slower now

is there a specivic rom you guys suggest that i should try to see if it speeds up.

i want to see if the 6.5 tmobile update will bring any improvements or not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Devoncoon:
Try MightyMike's ROM

I suggest you try one of MM's roms. I only suggest you try one of his stable releases. He has several works in progress, but his latest stable release is seeming to be very good and snappy. It also uses less system RAM.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=79579 - Thread discussion

http://www.mightyrom.com/ - Mighty Mike's website

Also, depending on when you purchased your phone, and from whom, you may have more time than you think. Many carriers offer extended return times over the Christmas season. I do believe that VZW offers all phones purchased from at least Nov 27 to be returned 'till Jan 15. Those specs. could be off a little due to poor memory, but it is something like that. Might be worth looking into.

Good Luck, and I hope you end up extremely happy with whichever device you end up with!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sumflipnol:
MM = Poor ROM choice...in this situation!

MM's ROMs are for CDMA only. Fuzzysig just said he had a stock T-Mobile ROM. Verizon, Telus, and Sprint are CDMA. T-Mobile and AT&T are GSM. If he flashed a CDMA ROM onto his GSM phone, that would be a disaster!

Yeah, the new keyboard buttons are stupid. You just have to press all the way at the left edge of the button (took some practice for me).

I love EnergyROMs (my favorite ROM is still EnergyROM Dec.4 Leo build 28008). The reason it's even slower is because you have MaxManila, which I heard slows down the system a bit.

I recommend the ROM I'm currently running (check the sig). It's sort of lite, but has some apps that help you tweak the phone (like EnergyROMs, but less apps; the flaw of EnergyROMs, IMO, is that NRG puts in a lot of apps so it's ready to go, but that starts counting towards bloatware). Valkyrie ROMs are light on memory (running 5 apps and RAM usage is still below 75%), and they're pretty smooth. The one I have is using the new Leo package, which has HTC landscape support! But because it's a new Leo package, you sill can't use Manila tweaks like HDWalls and Maxmanila (developers need to rewrite scripts, I think). Here's a post with 4 screenshots of the ValkyrieROM LEO in landscape.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Devoncoon:
OOPS

sumflipnol

:eek:

Nice catch!! I'm very glad you caught this before any harm was done. I completely missed that aspect. I would have felt Horrible if I was the cause of someone bricking their device from my advice!

With this new information, I suggest that you first switch to Verizon and then run Mighty Mike's ROMs!! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Devoncoon:
Regarding GSM/CDMA ROMs

The thought just ocurred to me. The Touch Pro 2 is a World phone, and therefore has both CDMA and GSM capability. I have no idea if this makes sense or not, but I was just wondering if the CDMA/GSM ROM issue is relevant in this case?? Is the hardware different between T-Mobile/AT&T and VZW/Sprint or is it the same?

Maybe I am totally off in left field, I don't know....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sumflipnol:
I'm not an expert, but what I think is by "World" phone, they refer to the capability of being used anywhere due to the Quadband 2G support. If the device is from a GSM company, the device will only come with a GSM-compatible hardware radio. If the device is from a CDMA company, it has the capabilities of using both GSM and CDMA bands, but the hardware radio is still native to CDMA.

And again, this is what I think prohibits us from flashing GSM ROMs onto CDMA devices and vice versa. If I'm wrong, I would appreciate if someone with more knowledge could clear this up. Unless, of course, this is one of the "just don't do that" rules! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] treo...not!:
That's essentially correct and close enough to the truth for govt work..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Devoncoon:
Thanks for the Clarification.

I kinda figured that it would be too good to be true. I am still somewhat confused how the CDMA radio accesses GSM signal, but I will leave it for another time in another thread...:)
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] cooldudie3:
Hi all,

I have an Atom Life and I want to upgrade it to either 6.1 or 6.5. I have never tried it before so I would like to ask for some help...

1. I want to look for a good, stable ROM for my Atom life

2. How do I upgrade?

3. Can I revert back to 6.0 if I don't like it?

Thanks!
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] dolphinxda:
U may pick

Here, Here, Here, Here

As i know from Hellworld1, he said the stable build is 218xx
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] cooldudie3:
Are there any ROMs that are not like modded and are the original versions from Microsoft?
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development] juliuscezar:
You may go here for the official release by MS...http://www.myxda.com/tips.aspx
[HD2 General] leobox1:
as above! this is making me crazy...

at most it is just moderate use. some calling some texting some opera mini-ing

and it is under GSM. Not 3G.

After 24 hours. I barely clock 20%.

Whats wrong with the battery?
[HD2 General] PG101:
Hey Leobox,

There could be a plenty of factors involved:

1. Constant use of GPRS to update weather.

2. Some SD cards use up the battery.

3. Make sure that your internet connection is not on generally

4. Finally, use BSB tweaks for power management.

Hope this helps.

Cheers!
[HD2 General] jlingo:
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.

And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
150SMS :confused:
[HD2 General] PG101:
as mentioned in my previous post.. the battery of HD2 seems to be ok.. a fren who is a power user has it.. generally this is what he does:

Full charge in the morning

Day use:

Approx 90-100 mins of call

15-20 mins of browsin

30 odd mins of music play

150 odd daily messages

15-20 mins of push mail

from 100% at about 8AM in the morning to about 25% in the evening at about 11PM.

I think thats pretty good
[HD2 General] leobox1:
i have weather set to 6 hours.

yes my data connection is on.. but i do not surf.. will that kill battery>?
[HD2 General] PG101:
Thats the culprit :P
[HD2 General] leobox1:
why will it kill .. i do not surf.. it is just on.. and it is only GPRS .. no 3g
[HD2 General] jimsteach:
with regard to data connection. do we have to manually turn it off in the settings page or is there a way to make it turn itself off when its idle.
[HD2 General] Bakedbread:
what ROM are you on?

I was originally on 1.48 ROM and had pretty bad battery drain problems too.

Most i got was about 1 day on average usage (couple calls and texts with browsing and slight GPS)

But i upgraded to 1.61 and i can honestly get 2-3 days now, no joke!

On hard usage about 1.5 days, but its still much better than before.

So if u want u can try upgrading to 1.61 and see how that works out for you
[HD2 General] chand4u76:
After struggling with the battery life for last 10 days I figured the real culprit to be the SD card. from day 1 I had 4GB SD card and the response was always slow while browsing the storage card or using Music and Photo tabs in SENSE.

I replaced the SD card yesterday night with original 2 GB card. I had 54 percent yesterday night and after 16 Hours I am still at 33 percent. (even with 25 mins call and some use of phone).

Seems the problem is resolved. Hope this helps to all who have battery problem.
[HD2 General] NeilM:
You are correct- a data connection turned on but not exchanging data uses minimal power as it's simply part of the GSM/3G service. However, if it is on, then some programs can use the connection for active data transfer which will use some power.

If you stick with GSM, rather than 3G, the battery hit is even less. Most battery usage when 3G is on results from the hunting between protocols when the 3G signal level is poor, though a good 3G connection uses less power than a stable GSM connection.
[HD2 General] jimsteach:
yes been thinking about updating the ROM. im on the o2 1.43 rom.

I still dont get the data connection though. even if i manually turn it off, something turns it back on i pressume its Twitter or weather. but why does it not disconnect itself afterwards?
[HD2 General] waxfresh:
i also have a question about the battery: is it normal that the battery drains 2-3 % per 10 minutes while listening radio?? screen is off, no data connection! this makes me crazy..
[HD2 General] adell_:
I'm using 1.48 ROM. It only lasts about a day :(.
[HD2 General] flashflash:
I also have a Omina II, and whilst I appreciate it has a larger capacity battery and only 800mhz processor, I could listen to the fm radio for an hour and the battery would drop 1% Max. The omina does throttle down the processor for less demanding apps.
[HD2 General] dalamario:
I had problem with G-Alarm. When in standby the HD2 use only 4-5mA in GSM/GPRS (no 3G) but when opening and closing G-Alarm, the HD2 was using in standby 80mA average.

I found that overnight it was discharging my battery around 40% (from 89% to 45% in 7hours). Then after disinstalling it I come back to normal discharge rate of around 4% overnight.

I think that G-Alarm and maybe some other softwares are not fully compatibles with the HD2 and after you open it (and close it with task manager, so not still open in background) there is a bug that let the HD2 not fully in standby, also if the screen stay off. In this situation the processor is still active and drain the battery faster. The only way to recover from this, is with softreset.

Perhaps apart from network usage / 3G / wifi / microSD etc. there are some programs developed for previous WM devices that are not 100% compatibles with HD2 and don't fully put on standby the device after you used it (also if closed with task manager) draining faster the battery.
[HD2 General] ToddeSwe:
Hi!

Which version do you use of G-Alarm?

I have not noticed this at all, and when i quit G-Alarm it quits and can't be found in taskmanager.
[HD2 General] dalamario:
I tried the 2.3 version. When I was testing it, when closing it, it was not dispaying on task manager also for me, but after that the battery was draining quicker during standby. After I disinstalled it, the draining of battery during standby comeback to normal (4-5mA).

I use battery log to check battery draining.
[HD2 General] sunking101:
It's a very powerful smartphone folks, my battery barely lasts a day either. I have to charge my HD2 every 20 hours-or-so. Stop comparing the battery drain on this handset to an old phone you just used for texting and making calls! Every smartphone I've owned drained the battery within a day if I actually used it for more than calls and texting. If you turn the data connection off and turn the 3G to GSM, you will experience much longer battery life....but then you won't be using the phone for anything much will you?:rolleyes:
[HD2 General] ToddeSwe:
I think you should go to: http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=home and write about this in the forum and see what the author have to say about this.

I can't live without G-Alarm so this was the first thing i installed when i got my HD2 so i can't realy say. And i can't wake up without it so... :)
[HD2 General] cmsc:
Same here.

Just got the HD2 last week and installed all the usual software inmediately as usual, and since the start I noticed the battery was being drained, close to 5% per hour in stand by. Ridiculous.

Decided to start by uninstalling S2U2 (had the latest v2.22 which ironically is supposed to fix battery drain in some devices though I have never had this problem with any of the older versions with other devices untill the HD2), and sure enough battery was inmediatelly back to what should be less than 1% per hour in standby. Similar to my HD.

Using 1.48 ROM, 16GB Kingston MicroSD and latest G-Alarm version with no problem with the battery.

Hope this helps others.

Crossing my finguers that this problem with S2U2 and HD2 is fixed in the future because the S2U2 is a great software program and can't wait to install it back again.
[HD2 General] lovebell:
My hd2 has the same problem, I did have G-alarm 2.3 installed as well,however, i have just uninstalled it, see if this works to me, if not, I will hard rest it, or flash a lastest rom(my current is 1.48 Asian WWE)
[HD2 General] leobox1:
hmmm my rom is 1.48 oh i hate to upgrade roms.. all settings gone ARRGGHH
[HD2 General] Filipek88:
Aaaah, that is probably the problem with me too ! Thanks for the explanation, I have like 30% drain overnight, and I use G-alarm also (Because the normal alarm isn't reliable, what the hell HTC?!?!?!?!?)
[HD2 General] leobox1:
so is it confirmed that G-ALARM is one of the problem?
[HD2 General] adell_:
My battery is drained 30% overnight as well. And I'm using G-Alarm.

Is it true that the problem is from G-Alarm? And is there any solution?
[HD2 General] lovebell:
In my case,I had uninstalled G-alarm V2.3, and still lost 30% power overnight,however, you could have a try to remove G-alarm.
[HD2 General] Eoinoc:
+1 vote for the 1.61 rom. Made a huge improvement to battery life for me.

Also I believe installing another task manager, for example I use the Touch X one from Sense 2.5 tweaks & mods thread, makes a big difference as programs actually close as opposed the the stock rom default where they stay open.
[HD2 General] adell_:
The 1.61 ROM isn't official yet, is it?
[HD2 General] lukedom89:
I've been having awful experience with battery life. Always completely drained before midnight after taking off full charge at about 9am. I'm using a 4gb sd and g-alarm 1.5. I've un-installed and removed both. Hopefully i'll see a change. Does the latest g-alarm still not address the battery drain issue?

Also how do you know what sd cards don't use up the battery?? Mine is a sandisk micro sd hc.

I'm also using the original ROM as t-mobile hasn't released an official update - does it void any warranty if you use an unofficial?

(Happy new year!)
[HD2 General] chalid:
I think there is a general problem with the suspend mode.

When using imapidle 0.60 on the HD2 it suddenly stopped working after 20 minutes or so in suspend mode - while the exact same configuration was fine with the Touch HD. With fixups new version of imapidle, the pushing service is working indefinitely, but batterydrain is huge.

So I guess there are two different modes when the device is in "suspend" mode, where the second mode kicks in after a couple of minutes and stops some apps from working. Other programs keep the device in "light suspend" mode, like g-alarm, s2u2 or imapidle, and are causing the batterydrain.

But this is of course only speculation ... :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] leobox1:
any solutions?

was charged @ yesterday 10pm now today 7pm, 46 percent.

Light usage :(
[HD2 General] lukedom89:
UPDATE from my last message regarding taking out memory stick and un-installing G-alarm.

I instantly got much better battery life after doing both. I've now put the memory stick back in and the battery life is still much better. In my case it must have been G-alarm. I now get 2+ days where as before it wouldn't last an afternoon.

Would be good to get G-alarm back though. Has the most recent one improved the issue?
[HD2 General] arturobandini:
Hope Mugen will make a battery for the HD2...

These batteries are just amazing : http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/
[HD2 General] xedahh:
I don't have any problems with battery life - My phone was on 46% at 11pm last night and 13 hours later is at 25% , thats with a couple of calls and an hour's worth of music playback with BT headset in between. I normally sync once or twice a day and charge overnight so i've never been out of battery, even with heavy use.

(Stock 1.48)
[HD2 General] leobox1:
r u on 3G or GSM normal ?

G-alarm running?
[HD2 General] xedahh:
I'm on 3G most of the time and I don't use G-alarm. I normally have a few background processes (Opera, googlemaps, camera etc.) but I don't think they are relevant as they show up as 0% cpu activity in the task manager