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[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
With the right drivers your vista would work properly, obviously your lack of general setup of a pc is bleeding through to your understanding of cell phones, HTC has been tweaking sense, since 2.0 and have had 2.1 well before other companys as they made the nexus 1, they have been working on 2.1 and it is more polished then your ****ty post. If you seriously think that your opinion matters here it doesnt... take yourself back to your iphone forums further proof of 2.0/2.1 working fine is the droid has 20 some mhz more then the eris and its fast running 2.0. The Android OS's also provide more speed and tweaks the hacked 2.1 is faster then 2.0 on the moto droid. The shortcomeings of the G1 and first gen devices is the ram. Our device is utilizing more than the G1 and is not a 1st gen. P.S. upgrade your pc to windows 7, It will more likely run faster.
[Droid Eris Android Development] pinksocker69:
If I remember correctly, the HTC Eris actually outperforms the Moto Droid in 2D rendering. Again, I'm not allowed to post links, but there are certainly benchmarks showing such. (Google "droid eris benchmark" sans quotes and hit the first result; you'll see the Eris perform 10.5:1 in opaque blits and 3:1 on blended blits. Not bad if I do say so myself!)

EDIT for numerical accuracy.
[Droid Eris Android Development] moqadasi:
settle down firesokar. do we need to hose down your flames, lol?

i worked as a computer technician in kuwait for almost 2 years!! so all i did was setup computers and install operating systems. smartphones (android in particular) are one of my passions, thats why i am here posting comments. i'm NOT an iphone user however i do think iphone & android os are fantastic mobile operating systems but i personally would prefer android (even though android os is virtually non-existent in the middle east). there is no reason to belittle iphone, they are the ones who changed the entire mobile device market and a major reason why android exists, this is an utter fact.

yes, the processor on the eris and milestone are similar in terms of clock speed but thats not the issue. if you are as big a "genius," as your swagger suggests, you would know that modern-day devices behave much like computers in that for sufficient performance you need both decent cpu and graphics chips (cpu's and gpu's via open cl & gl are the future for computing) for desired performance. if you read my post thoroughly you would have realized this. the moto droid uses a 550 arm cortex a8 processor (good quality) while the eris is using a 528 msm processor (decent quality). the resolution on the moto droid is double to that of the eris, the moto droid even has more RAM.

i own the droid eris and the motorola milestone among many other phones, i'd really love to see the eris rooted thats why i posted. i think my 2 cents are worth just as much as yours or anybody elses. since soo many people contributed their knowledge (including you) and valuable inputs, i did so as well. whats wrong with that?

whats up with all the assumptions? and how is my post "****ty?" i think i made pretty logical arguments. my inference is based on statements made to me by verizon wireless technical support and even an interview with Erick Tseng by engadget, the senior project manager for android, lol. how can you disagree with this?

thanks for the advise but my macbook pro is already running osx, win7 professional (with xp), and linux redhat and virtualized chrome os.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
I'm quite sure Sense won't be "Slapped together" in 2.1

The only reason we've been waiting so long for the update is because they've been putting a new version of Sense in it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] moqadasi:
exactly right

you are exactly right ataranine :) of course it won't be "slapped together." however it will not be built from scratch as firesokar suggested, it will be built on code based on the original sense UI.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
Well either way, it doesn't matter to me. I'll probably be disabling Sense anyway.
[Droid Eris Android Development] moqadasi:
much gratitude

i'd prefer it disabled as well, i like standard android's appearance.

its because of people like you, acidbath, binny, rigmrts, and even firesokar that this sort of medium of communication exists. thank you guys. i wish i could intellectually contribute more
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
I prefer that pretty white Notification bar, and the 2.0.1 lockscreen as well. :( Guess I'll have to learn to cook roms... once this thing gets rooted.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jriley60:
help

my phones screen is busted...insurance replacement is coming tomorrow...is there anything i can do to test that hasn't been tried. since i'm not real worried if i was to brick this..
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
Damn son, PM Binny I think he might have some ideas for methods that could brick the phone. Not sure.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Why didnt you claim the device as lost/stolen? its the same price as defective/broken.
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Never suggested it would be redone, it has been overhauled. If you want to continue this discussion take it to another thread. This is beginning to get off topic.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jriley60:
good question...guess i'm just that burnt and didn't think about it. :(
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
Hell yea, if you do that then you definitely don't have to worry about bricking it.. and you have one to donate to FireSokar! I think he mentioned he wanted one to test on..
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
I dont understand whats wrong with your phone that you are burnt. You havent rooted it so they wont/cant claim its not covered.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jriley60:
no i meant like burnt out....too stoned should have claimed it as lost and didn't think about it
[Droid Eris Android Development] Spencer_Moore:
Haha amen brotha...btw ill do anything I can to help if that means anything
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
dont worry :)

Dont worry...i started out not knowing a thing with my.HTC Fuze/Raphael....

Now i am flashing and hacking my Xperia WinMo everyday still and learning Linux :)

Just the fact that you are participating is a start!

I just got my PHD and am now a Dr. Treating patients...took me 10 years....lol

Rome wasnt built overnight!

Lets all try and keep the personal attacks and. swearing down...we are better than that here!
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
I just got word from someone at Engadget Mobile that Htc has heard us and seen the threads and emails.. And like they did on the Hero, they will release kernel code...its just a big machine over there...so we do owe them a bit of patience.. them a bit of patience.. But it is good to know they heard.. Amazing what we can do as a community!

I will update as I hear more back :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
I for one would like to see alink to the source update.

Thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
OK. This is going to sound bad. But i need help on something.

/sdcard is mounted with the noexec option. Where else can I push files to so I can see if they will work for root. noexec means it can't run files.

From running "Mount"

mount
rootfs / rootfs ro 0 0
tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,mode=755 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=600 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
tmpfs /sqlite_stmt_journals tmpfs rw,size=4096k 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock3 /system yaffs2 ro 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock5 /data yaffs2 rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock4 /cache yaffs2 rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0
/dev/block//vold/179:1 /sdcard vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,uid=1000,gid=
1000,fmask=0000,dmask=0000,allow_utime=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,s
hortname=mixed,utf8 0 0

Thanks!
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
Zfinab give me 5 mins to boot my desktop i found a folder to push the file to before one second
[Droid Eris Android Development] FireSokar:
I used adb push boot.img sqlite_stmt_journals

sqlite_stmt_journals is a good spot so far ive found to dump stuff its right on the root of the partition.
[Droid Eris Android Development] pinksocker69:
Hey good tip, man, thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
I allways push to /data/local/ than

adb shell

chmod 0755 /data/local/***yourfile*****

/data/local/***yourfile***

Hope that helps
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
Thanks.

My exploit didn't work. I'll take another look at it probably tuesday (snowboarding tommorrow :D)

Thanks for the help!
[Droid Eris Android Development] apreichner:
That sucks. Good luck man, and have fun snowboarding! I'd try snowboarding but I have a suspicion it won't be as fun considering I live in Florida and it doesn't snow here.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
Don't give up. :D

So I asked you if the source could be of any help to us on Twitter, and no reply.. so I'll ask it here. Since HTC should be releasing the Source for the Kernel soon, could it help in getting root access?
[Droid Eris Android Development] chr1831:
Yes the source will help A LOT because we can go into the kernel and find faults and buffer overflows (the linux kernel is not perfect) in their kernel and gain root that way

-Chr1831
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
I'm guessing we will not see the kernal until they update to 2.x
[Droid Eris Android Development] chr1831:
Wouldn't surprise me.... If only they would release 2.x today......

-Chr1831
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
The word on the street is that the moto droid is getting a update maybe starting today to 2.1 than after that I would expect to see us get the update shortly after that... but don't quote me on that its just what I have been hearing.
[Droid Eris Android Development] chr1831:
I thought the moto droid had 2.1 already?

-Chr1831
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
They have 2.0.1
[Droid Eris Android Development] pjsockett:
I doubt we will see an update until a device with sense and 2.1 is released. I just don't think they would release the software unless they have a released phone using it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] syrkel2:
agreed

I agree with this statement. I think they will want a new phone to come out so they can make some money on it running 2.1. For this reason is why I will be dumping the eris for a moto droid. These updates just take entirely too long and I like to be running the newest OS possible so with no root and no 2.1 i will just stick with a stock android OS phone.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
sorry guys but the bug i found will not work..... back to the drawing board.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
And the moto droid did get a update today just not to 2.1
[Droid Eris Android Development] 00110001:
I'm not familiar with phone hacking or phone app development, so I don't know If this will help at all.

developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission.html

Hope this helps any.
[Droid Eris Android Development] JTF2007:
I know this is slightly off topic and I apologize in advance.

Has anyone seem the "Online Rom Kitchen" for the Hero over at the MoDaCo website?

http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/299869/12-jan-2-0-1-online-kitchen-for-modaco-custom-rom-for-sprint-cdma-hero/
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
The milestone just got rooted....
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
It was rooted the same way as the droid so no luck for us.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
Ugh, I say we give it up.. we're stuck with a phone that we can't control any way we want..

Not even a 500 dollar bounty is helping to come up with ways to root it.. probably because, either no one cares, or they have a Droid.
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Wow, way to be a downer. I'm glad the rest of us dont think like you or no phone anywhere would be rooted ever. Its being worked on. Rooting takes time.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
Downer. That's funny. If you say so. Face it pal, Eris owners are a minority.. the Moto gets all the attention.. if half the people who own Motos owned the Eris instead, we'd have root by now. I don't care anymore if it gets rooted. Have fun reading every new post in this thread in hopes that someone finally got it.

All the work everyone did was appreciated, and it's too bad it didn't get us anywhere. Good job on all the work you've done everyone. I understand you were trying.. just HTC has us beat. :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] chizzy58:
its aleis:

dude dont give up!

it took almost 5 months for us to get GPS on the samsung omnia!

have patience.

if you have a contract on your eris you aint goin no where anyway! :)

its GOING to happen.

and if it dont happen for me by june..i`ll have a nexus on so...i wont care :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
That's why I don't care anymore. I'll be getting a new phone this year anyway. :P
[Droid Eris Android Development] greemthumb:
i second that
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
This is getting Emo in here!

Ataranine I can feel your pain man...its frustrating and annoying..

But your getting all Twilight/My Chemical Romance on us ;) lol

Lets be positive people!

Lots of good minds working on this....

We will get the kernel code from HTC eventually...

But until then we have everyone looking for exploits and a Mysterious update coming on the 22nd...

Ohh by the way, I heard from a good source that the update includes:

The ability to use Eris as a Hover Board!

Compatable with Windows 95!

And 2 tickets to a strip club in rural Alabama!
[Droid Eris Android Development] chizzy58:
YES!!!

i love this phone now!! :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
lol

I know right!
[Droid Eris Android Development] pinksocker69:
I'll be the first to admit it's pretty disheartening. I was way off base with my idea (for a number of reasons), and it was pretty tough knowing that I had gone into it all wrong from the get-go. That said I'm definitely not done yet. I'll keep reading up on the flashing / upgrading routines, trolling linux security advisories, and (when we get it) I'll go through every last line of source code and I'll keep going through it until uid=0 comes out.

Unless I get too distracted by the Alabama strip club. Then y'all suckers are on your own. ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Thanks :)

Thanks man...I know its tough...trust me i am still knee deep in WinMo 6.5.x!

Your hard work is very appreciated :)

Have a good lap dance!
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
New Email from HTC about 2.x update...

"bigdroid" over at http://androidforums.com/members/bigdroid.html

just got this email from htc.

The update is scheduled for the first quarter of this year. Now while I can not definitively say any dates, I would expect it sometime end of January to mid February. Hopefully, this helps you.

Regards,

HTC Support
[Droid Eris Android Development] chizzy58:
wait, is this the same update that was last month, rumored to be released the first quarter of this year?
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
2.0 or 2.1 update

This "Update" they are talking aboit is the 2.0 or 2.1 update that Verizon and HTC have promised for our Eris/Desire.

They said that we would get in in the first quarter of 2010.

Article:

Link: http://www.informationweek.com/blog...l;jsessionid=5KMHLSRS4RF0TQE1GHPSKH4ATMY32JVN

"Today Verizon said that that the HTC Droid Eris, Verizon's other Android phone, will receive a major software overhaul in the first quarter of 2010. Verizon spokesperson Brenda Raney said, "The Droid Eris currently using Android 1.5, can and will be upgraded to newer a Android operating system software in first quarter 2010. The enhancement will allow customers to continue to enjoy the powerful HTC Sense experience while also gaining the additional benefits of Google Maps Navigation."

When asked to clarify exactly which version of Android the Droid Eris will get, Raney explained that, based on the timing, the Droid Eris will be updated to either Android 2.0 or 2.1. We know that Android 2.0 brings some serious platform improvements to Android, but right now we know little about Android 2.1. "
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Here is what I take from that, HTC has aprroved the update and so has Verizon, they must have it scheduled and unless one of the testers for VZW find a major show stopping bug than the update will be pushed.

Or they are waiting on the tickets for the strip club to arive.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
i agree...

Thats what I took from it too...

And those damn strippers getcha everytime :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
I just read that the update bieng pushed to the moto droid is part one of s two part update that will install 2.1 that means we should see our update soooooon
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
:)

Thats would be for sure in my mind...

They gotta finish them up first...being the Face of their Droid campaign and all...

Could you please share the link or where you read that?
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
http://bit.ly/7XJiuG. Here you go.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
yep...

looking like were next in line :0
[Droid Eris Android Development] zifnab06:
I'm having some problems with my idea. It may not work.

Just to update you guys. I'm still working though. If anyone wants to start looking for 2.6.27 exploits and post them, I'd appreciate it. I think I might be able to compile it even if "personalty.h" and "sycall.h" (we don't have them in android) are there. I'll try cross-compiling it with libc. The executable will be HUGE but it might work.

Thanks,
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
I have some time this weekend...will look for 2.6.27 exploits...

Any other help you need let me or any of us know!

If we dont know we will find someone who does!
[Droid Eris Android Development] GrdLock:
From HTC's twitter page:

"@chenry81 We are. Sprint Hero will be getting an update to 2.1 in the first half of this year."

If the Hero's getting 2.1, I'd assume the Eris will be as well.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jballz0682:
Wow, that sounds so final. Anyway, I'm still not giving up hope. Though I really don't know much about source code and flashing and all that stuff I do know that I had so much fun flashing my HTC Touch Pro when I was over at Sprint. I'm looking forward to the same fun on this phone.

For the one's that are still working on root:

Don't let guys like Ataranine discourage you. There are still plenty of us watching this thread and waiting for the tutorial on how to root our Eris.

And HTC does not have us beat. The code was made by humans therefore it DOES have flaws.

Keep going guys. Don't give up.
[Droid Eris Android Development] R-T-B:
Ditto on that.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
Dude, go look up the word "discourage" before you use it next time.

And you've been here a year, leeching.. then you decide to make one post.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
How many times do I have to say that the so-called "mysterious" update on the 22nd will be a damn BUGFIX update? Why is it that everyone is relying so much for a 2.1 update on the 22nd when they know good and well the bugfix is coming out on the same date?

Ever since the phone was released there has been a scheduled bugfix update on the 22nd of January. There was also one scheduled on the 11th of December, which everyone got. Friday we'll see the bugfix update.

I know it's a little hard to take but that's what this update is going to be. A bugfix.

If you need proof, read this link: [urlhttp://phandroid.com/2009/11/09/htc-droid-eris-ota-update-coming-too/[/url]

Now that we're done with that, we can move on to the next bit of speculation for the update on the 1st of February that everyone's pulling out of their ass.
[Droid Eris Android Development] binny1007:
Wow that was posted on Nov 9th, why don't you just settle down, and let us beleave what what we want to. Lots of things have changed since that was posted, the moto droid was only suppose to get a bug fix too but they got part 1 of a two part update to 2.1. So just calm down and stop trying to get on everybodys case. If you give up than stop following this thread.
[Droid Eris Android Development] stormtrader:
Long time reader, First time poster,

+1
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
Leave my posts alone.

Mod edit: One more name-calling and you're out!!! The January 22nd update is a bugfix. That was RELEASED by Verizon to let us know. Anything that thing says still stands.
[Droid Eris Android Development] acidbath5546:
Please stop being drama.

If you do not have anything productive or positive to say, please go to another site, where useless ramblings and hazing is permitted.

XDA is a community, and should be treated as such.

Please refrain from flaming and swearing and lets try to be a little mature.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jballz0682:
I don't really want to get into it wiith you dude--I've seen in the past what happens to people that respond and sink down to your level. If you want to call me a leech then go ahead. Like I said I don't know much about this stuff to really offer a lot of help. I was merely trying to keep morale up despite what you had said.

I really think you need to relax dude and relize that this is a community not an elite club. People of all kinds are allowed to join and leave as they please.

Oh and I took your advice and looked up discourage...I used it correctly. Your words are discouraging in the fact that you are saying that HTC has us beat. I'm not arguing to what extent it is discouraging or whether your percieved pessimism is waranted. I'm just saying "don't give up." I did notice that you thanked everyone and I am sure that is appreciated but there are some of us here that don't want the real hackers to give up.

Let me reiterate that I'm not trying to antagonize you, Ataranine. I understand your frustration and I hope you find a phone that satisfies your needs/wants.

Have a good day.
[Droid Eris Android Development] false_apology:
I'm by no means a Linux hacker, but something came to mind after reviewing this thread. The old Tivo boxes used the Linux kernel as a core, and Tivo hackers used a tool called "killhdinitrd" to kill the initial ram disk in a way that did not violate the kernels digital signature.

See this thread:

http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36692

Is this at all something that would for our devices? I have a feeling I am way out of my league with this, and someone probably already thought of this, but I thought I'd ask...
[Droid Eris Android Development] n0irsmurf:
I have said it before in another forum... going to say it again, ataranine... you seriously are a big baby. Go buy the Droid, stop complaining about your Eris and let the people who would like root on this phone hope for it to happen. I fully support you guys and keep it up please.

I've already seen you sink down one of these threads please don't do it again.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
I'm glad you registered just to say that.

Now, go back to wherever the hell you claim you said that to me for a first time. I didn't reply to anyone else's posts to refrain from pissing anyone else off, but since you couldn't keep your mouth closed, and registered just to say that to me, I had to reply. (I'm flattered, by the way)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mikey:
Actually, i am glad he signed up......as long as he respects others, anyone and everyone should/WILL be respected. :)

Ummm, pardon me, who are you again to tell members to leave???

Oh i'm sorry, do you think that your status "Senior member" means anything?? not in my book, if you have nothing good too say. :)

Play nice or else :)

That goes to everyone, no one in specific ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] ataranine:
First off, I don't care about my title/status.

Second, don't threaten me with your "Or else.." crap.

Third, who is Binny to tell ME to leave?