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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NSider:
Search for Finger Keyboard :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lanceydavid:
I have the latest cyan but ever since I got the 4th prior update for cyan anything I try and download on the market just stays and say "starting download" and I even did fix permissions and also I clean the cache in the market! What do I do? I want to update my apps
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quierotacobell:
Try a full wipe, and then starting clean, I know it's a pain, but that's what I always do when I get problems, most of the time it fixes it.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ezkilla:
you can also go to apps and find market and uninstall updates, that worked for me
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lazzzara:
Open Google Talk. It will take a couple of seconds to sign in. Downloads will then work.

The market uses something in Google Talk to start the downloads or something... I don't ask questions, I just know it works.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lanceydavid:
google talk wont even open! wtf lol, and i want a wipe to be the last resort! anything but starting all over again AGAIN lol
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garok89:
erm.....wrong section?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lanceydavid:
sorry, but does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lazzzara:
The problem is you need to be signed in to google talk to be able to download from the market. If it won't even open you're gonna need to reflash.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NeDen:
The same issue

I am experiencing the same issue (permanent "Starting download...") with Market.

Now I am signed in to GoogleTalk but it does not fix the issue.

Any ideas?

I have got: US T-mobile 1.5 CRC1.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grandomegabosses:
have you tried going to settings>applications>manage applications>market then clicking "uninstall updates"?

somebody else mentioned it here, but nobody else ever gave any feedback. i had a similar issue to this and uninstalling the market updates fixed it. when you're on your market homepage, is there a "T-Mobile" button?
[Touch2 General] neokens:
hello

i have a probleme with my phone when i'm receiving a picture from my mms friend it is resize in a picture very small

did someone know how to change that

sorry for my language i don't speak english
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreamsofubuntu:
Okay my phones info is as follows:

UK Vodafone running Donut 1.6

SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Jul 31 2009, 15:49:25

Now is this or is this not a perfected SPL "1.33.0007" as I cant do jack with it:rolleyes: nor can I get any computer to recognize it when it's in fastboot connected to a PC...*sigh* (although it will when it's turned on)

Now assuming the above is correct and it is a perfected spl will the below work:

Step 1

Flash the phone with the 32A ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010) this being a higher rom version than my own from Amon_RA's thread (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=548218)

Step 2

Change the radio (any recommendations?) back to that of a 32B HTC Magic device and install CyanogenMod using the info again from a different Amon_RA thread (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4314039&postcount=1)

Step 3

Sit back and bathe in the glory of my finally rooted HTC Magic?

Thanks in advance for any and all help even if it's just a quick reply to tell me I'm off my trolley and it's a sure fire way to brick my phone:(
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] narse:
Has anyone managed to get anywhere with this hardware. I have exactly the same version of hardware and have not been able to get it to connect to the pc in fastboot.

I would imagine that a lot of people are in the same position, with the same hardware so could someone point us in the right direction please.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hacker1:
Yes, 1.33.0007 is a perfected SPL, but nevertheless you should get fastboot to recognize your phone. Did you properly install the Android SDK USB drivers?

I had the same perfected SPL on my 32B but (luckily) with Android 1.5 CRC24.

I think it should work if you flash a "official" vodafone 1.5 CRC24 1.33.0007 image, then install flashrec on Android, change the recovery Image, boot into recovery mode and flash an engineering spl. Thats basically what I did, except for the downgrade to 1.5.

AFAIK on 1.33.0007 you should be able to downgrade without a goldcard.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] zabbensx:
Same Version

Hello everybody,

i have the same phone with the same SPL, too.

My Problem is when i try to flash the sappimg.zip with the POWER on and Volume down methode, everything wents fine.

But after reading the Update File i end up with an error like:

"Main Version is older".

Don't know what to do...

Phone HTC Sapphire (Magic) 32B Ship S-ON G

SPL(hboot): 1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)

CPLD-10

I already tryed a Goldcard, but no luck at all :(

Any Ideas.

I readed 2 Threads, they got a problem with theire devices,

it also was an 32B Magic and they wanted to do an update, too.

And they ended up with the same error message, so they tryed

to flash a 32A Image, and then the 32B, and it worked.

But i am worried, don't want to brick my device.

Anybody out there, with an idea?

Greeting

ZabbensX
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] IsmailBhai:
i got the exact same problem. waiting for answers...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Wayneh73:
If you are running Donut Rom DRC92 then at the moment you are stuck. We need to wait until a higher firmware with a non-perfected SPL is released. If you are running a Cupcake Rom (starts with a C) then you can upgrade fine. I'm in the same situation after bricking my first phone using a RUU (they are for 32As only). Luckily Vodafone replaced it under warranty but I have ended up with the perfected SPL.

After having root and now unable to get root I can't say I miss it much. It makes you think what do you need root for? One of the reasons was the ability to flash custom roms but no disrespect to all the Hero Rom developers but NONE of them run well on a 32B Magic. Cyanogens software is good but what does it do that stock firmware doesn't? Any way hopefully Eclair won't be long, a new Rom will be released and we can all change to an engineering SPL and all will be jolly again. :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Remobero:
what's ur OS ? Can HTC sync read ur device ?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] zabbensx:
No HTC Sync doesn't recognize my phone :(
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreamsofubuntu:
Thats the reason I want to use the 32A rom as it's newer then my current rom and so it *should* hopefully flash the phone including the spl and then I can change the radio back to that of a 32B device

also what do you mean about being able to change to an engineering spl in Eclair?

Also I've never been able to get HTC Sync to work ever =[ in both xp or vista, and never been able to get the drivers working properly however I am yet to try with Ubuntu
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Wayneh73:
You should be able to get both fastboot and adb to recognise your phone although you won't be able to do anything. That sounds like a driver issue. If you go to the HTC website and download the latest drivers (pick the ones for the HTC branded magic) you should be ok. Try the link below.

http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=267&act=sd&cat=all

As for flashing a 32a rom then changing the radio, good luck with that after already bricking one phone I haven't got the balls to try. If you do try and it works please post here exactly what you done as many people will thank you.

Lastly what I'm waiting for is a higher rom version which will probably be eclair (Android 2.0) which comes with a non-perfected SPL. Then the devs on here can get the relentless rooter to work on our phones.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreamsofubuntu:
Okay thanks =] will see if I can get the drivers working with Ubuntu via the Android SDK although I cant try the Goldcard method until I get hold of another memory card as I've misplaced the one that came with the phone:(
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] IsmailBhai:
u cant access it unless u enable USB debugging. If u cant pass activation, then ur screwed until u activate it with 3G
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] IsmailBhai:
hacker1 suggested this:

hasnt worked for me yet.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreamsofubuntu:
USB debugging was one of the first things i turned on =]
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] xepergod:
In the same mess....

I hope someone can figure this out soon, I'm also in the same boat and cannot root my mt3g. It has the following specs:

I have tried the following methods...

sappimg.zip + goldcard

Model ID incorrect!

Update Fail!

SAPPIMG.nbh

Main Version is older!

No luck, just errors. Anyone got any suggestions?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Wayneh73:
Not yet and the fact that none of the senior members are bragging any where they can do it I think we are pretty much stuck. In fact no-one is talking about trying to hack this so I think it maybe in the too difficult bin! Time to save up and get a Nexus One :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreamsofubuntu:
nooooooooooo

Dream killer:rolleyes:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] linuxluver:
32A Rom on your 32B may brick your phone

*IF* you load the 32A radio and SPL and ROM on your 32B, you may only succeed in bricking your phone.

They are different devices. You can try it if you like, but be ready to throw the phone away.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] stian230:
I do not know if this helps you guys.http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-root-a-donut-phone-android-1-6/

All phones are diffrent I have perfect spl too and I manage to flash in fastboot:confused:.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreamsofubuntu:
I've found something which I think might help on a German android forum and it looks like the guy succeeded in doing something similar to what I posted originally in this thread from what I can gather from google translate

http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-hacking-modding-htc-magic/11285-flashen-mit-1-33-0007-spl.html

can anyone help me out and post a translation for me? (I mean someone who can give a translation not from a website unless it's blindingly better then google)

Current translation via google...

So from what I can gather this guy succeded in rooting and flashing his HTC Magic 1.33.007???????????:D:D:D:D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] easy_geeza98:
HTC Vodafone Magic 1.33.0007

Has anyone managed t root a Vodafone 32b 1.33.0007 Magic yet. I have been checking and double checking for weeks to make sure this "perfected" version can be done without bricking it. The problem is choosing the correct method as there are currently severalw ays to do it?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] dreamsofubuntu:
as far as I know if you havnt updated your phone to android 1.6 then you can easily use the 1 click method available here:

http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-root-the-htc-magic-in-one-click/
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Xx_xBLADEx_xX:
Can anyone confirm this!?
[HD2 General] TheDynamo:
Without having to increase it on the PC with some fang-dangled program?
[HD2 General] thebomber:
same here i wanna make the ring volume higher like those china branded phone

that i can hear it if it buried

people complaing of the high voice while in call

tried it today well its a bit high really but just tell the other guy to lower his f**** voice and its clear like honey :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quicksite:
New Hero owner here... using it 3 weeks. LOVE the phone, love the 7 pages, love the widgets, love the screen, love SenseUI, HATE the capacitive screen.

Coming form windows mobile for past 5 years, i am expending at least 5x more time and energy to navigate or browse due to this "feature".

I am certain this has been hashed out here before, but I will settle for a short answer, even one that has a laundry list if you like.

All I ask is that you please tell me it has something to add other than MULTI-TOUCH. I could care less about pinch-zoom. Initially when seen on first i-phones it had a wow factor. But very soon on WM, with OperaMini, Netfront, Skyfire, Iris and other browsers, pinch-to-zoom was rendered irrelevant, as all of these browsers provided way more efficient way to zoom in, out, and frame the area of the screen you want to look at. One tap, or two taps, or grab a square positioner (netfront) and tap.

Regardless of marketing, not only were these solutions fantastic, I alos didn't feel any sense of loss.

Now that I HAVE multi-touch on Hero, it's way beyond "yawn". It's more like, "what in the world is the advantage here. all I see is that a capacitive screen is far inferior to a resistive screen for easily 25 reasons. I listed them elsewhere on an XDA "general" forum. Typing: worse. accurate hitting a target: worse, but not just worse, horrible. Tap-hold context menus, require twice as long to press in order to instruct the OS you're indeed pressing for the purpose of holding, vs pressing just to try to make contact. Takes twice the tap impact to activate GO and other action buttons.

So I am dying to hear what is the advantage I have been given on this fantastic $500 USD phone I bought?

2nd question: I am currently using the device straight out the box, with just maybe 25-50 aps or widgets form android marketplace -- which has been fantastically smooth user experience, with perfect degrees of feedback on what access each app will give to the phone etc... very reassuring.

Has the truly amazing world of XDA-devs made some of my major usability complaints above go away, or lessen (after rooting the phone and using a custom ROM)?

Sign me: Baffled and Dismayed in San Francisco
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quicksite:
Are there no replies here because this has been previously beaten to death? If so, wold someone please point me to the best thread discussion on this subject matter?

Thank you.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsirhc6x:
personally, i love a capacitive screen for typing.. as long as you can hit the buttons. For me i have no problem in the horizontal view, but they shouldnt have used a "qwerty" keyboard in the horizontal view, i despise it aha.

for the browsers multi touch, personally i just think its kinda cool, but as you say not very productive.

so really to me, i just love the feeling of capacitive touch screens...when they work of course!

and i know that companies "try" to put capacitive screens on as much as possible (because the iphone and ipod touch are so popular) but you can only really have it on bigger screens. The hero has pretty much the "bare minimum" screen size, and thats why we have some problems!

sorry i didnt really answer your question, just my thoughts but i guess the advantage is (was ment to be) that iphone touch screen experience, but capacitive screens work much better when the buttons have space between them (on bigger screens!)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quicksite:
THis was very helpful thank you. I know what you mean that the glassy smoothness is elegant and competes, I guess, with the look & feel of the Apple handheld devices. But also you seem to be answering my question, which is really the essentiual thing wanted to know:

Apparently there is ZERO added-value that capacitive brings over resistive screen than pinch-zoom... and that glossy glass feeling.

Is this correct, though? Can it really be that the primary reason for running Android on a capacitive screen is its sexiness factor in comparing to glossy look of the iphone?

I know there MUST be threads galore at XDA regarding the value of stylus for rapid composing, and more rapidly scrolling thru a long list on contacts, going into something like 2x or 5x speed flashing through the letters of the alphabet, then slowing down to land on desired contact...

The HTC Leo thread addressed this quite a bit, with both groans and raves for that WM device...
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsirhc6x:
well i used apple as more of an example but i dont think i was very clear before sorry!

Although the screen is glossy and well glass, but i ment that alot of people like having that "touch" not "tap" feel. like how with capacitive you can barely touch the screen and it responds whereas resistive you have to push on the screen. so this makes companies want to use capacitive so there putting it on alot of the bigger touch screen phones
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dac0908:
well here is your problem. and I know exactly how you feel, having some PDA and SE P1 also with resistive touch. you'll have to get used to it, there is no other way. it looks similar, like, it's a touchscreen! but difference in technology makes it hard to shift your way of using it

same thing as forgetting clickable keyboards where you can feel edge of each key and you KNOW exactly what you have pressed... and believe me, when you get that feeling with almost microscopic P1 keyboard, first few weeks of brand new high tech on-screen typing makes you smash that phone into wall next to you... but it gets better with time :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sausageman:
This is the correct answer. Most people prefer the touch feel of capacitive compared to the press needed for resistive screens.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenkaw:
I moved from an Omnia i900 (WM, resistive screen) to the HTC Hero (Android, capacitive screen) and I am really enjoying the sensitivity of the Hero's screen. Everything is activated with a feather-light touch which really adds to the experience of using a touchscreen device.

On the Omnia, when I tried to halt a scrolling list with my finger, more often than not, I would end up choosing an item instead of stopping the scolling. This got irritating enough that I ended up using the scroll bars most of the time. On the Hero, the scrolling list amazingly stops when my finger makes contact without any unintended item selection. This probably has to do with the sensitivity of the capacitive screen but whatever it is, it works brilliantly.

The only time when I miss the resistive screen is if I need to accurately touch points on the screen due to poorly designed software but this can generally be avoided. Copy and paste could potentially have been a pain with a capacitive screen but the Hero has a trackball which gets the job done quite well.

I agree that multi-touch is nice to have but not critical. It is the sensitivity of the capacitive screen that really makes my day !
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peterc10:
IMHO the capacitive screen is one of the best parts of my Hero (the other is not having to use clunky Windows Mobile anymore). It makes it so much more user friendly - and that attribute is what has made the iphone the best seller it is.

It is so much easier to scroll through my emails, texts, contacts, apps etc without accidently clicking on one and opening. And the same applies when scrolling between screens. In my last phone (HTC Touch Diamond) I was forever opening apps and windows I did not mean to when trying to scroll up down or sideways.

And scrolling long lists (I have over 200 contacts) is so easy. Just flick and let it run and then stop it with a finger. Try that on a non-capacitive screen and you are likely to open something you did not mean to open.

And, admittedly after a bit of practice, I have found the QERTY keyboard is no problem at all. It is almost as easy to use with my finger as my TD was with a stylus. And it is even easier when you are in landscape mode.

Still, each to his/her own. If, after giving it some time to get used to, you still don't like it I am sure there are plenty of alternatives out there - it always amazes me the number of different high-end phones HTC makes.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Volker1:
Resistive touch screen: You have to press harder to make it work better (Rinzai school)

Capacitive touch screen: You have to touch lighter to make it work better (Soto school)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quicksite:
I am starting to feel this now, too. So I am shifting mental gears in my head.

This is actually where I have the most problems.... way more than touching the screen, which I am becoming accustomed to, and now seeing what p[eople are saying about feathertouch responsiveness.

I have not been able to find any settings for trackball responsiveness, the kind you'd find on any laptop for the touchpad or mouse rate of movement -- from super fast to super slow. IS there such an adjustment?

I want to love the trackball, and I am getting better at it. But to me, this is almost just the opposite of featherweight touch on screen. My finger "wants" a more "sticky" or locked-on connection to the trackball, so i can control it better with micro-movements. For me, right now, it is so slippery as to super-slide way out of range, and shifting fields on form data entry, and , when I am using it on a slider bar such as for volume control or color mixing (chnaging color of a background), it's sensitivity is way too wild for even a light touch attempt to control it

QUESTION: I am not yet using any rooted rom from XDA... I am still experiencing the Hero out of the box. So, are there any added control settings that people at XDA have figured out and added to the custom ROMS?

thank you

I agree that multi-touch is nice to have but not critical. It is the sensitivity of the capacitive screen that really makes my day ![/QUOTE]
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quicksite:
I a starting to feel this now. I was flicking too hard initially -- as part of my learning curve. I am now getting the hang of it and am getting the kind of control you speak of. nice!

No ****. what an amazing company... and why I like how XDA-developers built up around HTC... This is a serious question: Is HTC a good stock buy? They seem like moreso than ever, with their new branding and direct-to-consumer marketing campaigns (at least in the USA, big time), ready to leap out as a huge brand in the way Samsung shot up from obscurity many years ago, into a top-5 leading brand of electrionics.
[HD2 General] 1pudding1:
Hi all,

Just got a new 8GB mem card. Had my HD2 for a couple of weeks now, so got a few things on the old 2GB card. Whats the best way to go about installing the new one and getting everything from the old to new card?

Cheers.
[HD2 General] warlack:
Simply copy and paste everything from the old one to the new one...

I usually copy everything to my pc, format my old card and put the backup onto my new card.

You can try it otherwise as well:

Leave the 2 gig card in your phone and connect it via the data connection (not active sync because it's faster)

Then put ur 8 gig card into your pc by using the adabter supplied (came with the 2 gig card with your leo)

and copy the files directly to the new card.

Leave the whole structure as it is and you won't have any problems

greetz
[HD2 General] 1pudding1:
Cool thanks, I'll give that a go in the morning when I can. :)
[HD2 General] Chrlz:
Am I the only one whose HD2 decides to enter menus without even touching it?... I tried 1.43, 1.48, 1.61 - no change.

When the device is at the home screen, it sometimes decides to enter clock/calender menus... I dunno what might cause this. tried enormous hard resets, different ROM versions - nothing. :mad:

It's random - sometimes it happens, sometimes it does not.
[HD2 General] warlack:
Your screen is too sensitive or wet.

My HD2 does the same thing when I'm watching a movie in the bath tub with it and get the screen wet.

When there's no fluid anywhere on the HD2 then you might need to replace your phone on grounds of faulty hardware.

Did you try the screen sensitivity cab? To some it works wonders.