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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
I've never thought that er could be a reason to add STK Services. Been removing it from my ROM's for years. Will see if I can create a CAB for it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] wallot:
stk services are used for dealing with encrypted messages used by banking applications if I am right.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
found some information about STK HERE.

In the Netherlands where I live STK Services are used to add some extra services to the SIM card like weather, news etc.

But when you use internet on your device I can't see why I would want this on my device. I will have a look to see if I can create a CAB that can enable the STK Service part...

EDIT: This is what WinMo says about STK: "A list of services provided by your operator should appear on the page."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
@wallot

Please try the attachment. It works on my device so I did test the STK Service.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thierry2064:
Swype

Hello McCune,

Would you consider adding Swype, from the latest TMO Rom? this one is mutiingual, but when installed through a cab it causes issues. When included in the Rom it works...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Just post a link if you have it. Will take a look at it.

I prefer to have as less as possible in the ROM. Would be nice if I could manage to get a Multi lang Swype version for the Cosmik Debris ROM though...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thierry2064:
I agree. Link is here. I am not sure the other Chefs use the same though...

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thierry2064:
Actually I guess the one here is used by another chef. I guess the file "modelnames.txt", indicating T-Mobile_LEO, causes issues when Swype is not in Rom...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Will have a look at it. Thanks for the URL's thierry2064!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
@thierry2064

I did some testing with CAB files and v2.0 seems to work (English) on my device just fine.

What are your exact problems with Swype on Cosmik Debris?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thierry2064:
Apparently it broke data connections on most users. Check here or here
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Hello Mccune,

I might have questions concerning your ROM:

1. In some posts I've found a question concerning problems with installing SPB Mobile Shell. Am I supposed to uderstand that so far I cannot use third party "Desktop managers" like mobileshell? I may misunderstood that post, but it made me worried.

2. I want to ask you if it would be a problem to make it possible to install the default HTC music player from Sense 2.1. I know it sucks, but for me it has one major advantage - can control it by my RC E100 remote control. No other player is able to do this on my TP2 (yes I also tried PocketMusic with all the plugins I've found on xda, but without success - always problems either with volume or play/pause). I don't know it's possible to "retrieve" the player from HTC Sense (like you did with many other HTC applications and/or Communications Manager) and make it available as cab?

3. Are there any reported problems with BlueTooth communication in r3.1? I read all the 21 pages of this thread, but after releasing r3.1 with the older BT stack noone posted any comments on BT. I drive a lot, so BT headset is one of my major working tools.

For the end:

Please keep up the good work. There are many users who are looking for stable ROM without memory leak, and without unnecessary garbage. I meet them on one of the polish forums - where there is already a topic concerning your ROM, and out there was une user who reported that he cannot pair any BT device with r3.1 - that's why I asked.

I myself used Jackos Hybrid ROM, and I liked it's functionality very much, but had some problems with freezing clock (yes, still manila...) and with dialer application. Now I switched to the newest "quasi-official" HTC S2 but after 1 day I am already tired of it. I work for hours, so I do not always have time to try any ROM myself, that is why I try to ask first, then install.

Regards from Poland

Skrobel
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
I removed Manila\Sense from the ROM. Have not had any problems with SPB Mobile Shell. Can't remember that any other user had a problem installing this on my ROM.

Do you mean the actual Tab that plays the music when you use Sense? Or is there another program actually opened? I hardly ever used Manila\Sense so it's not quite clear to me what you mean by this.

I have had no comments on the BT in combination with headsets. I don't have any problems using it for ActiveSync or FileTransfer though. The BT on r3.1 should be very much like the stock WM6.1 ROM. The only thing changed is that some files are compressed to gain more space. I still don't own a BT headset so I can't test this myself.

Thank's for your interest in this ROM. I'm still very happy with this release. Last week I was able to renew my cellular contract but there is no device that can replace my current TouchPro2 it seems. Though I would like to get my hands on the HTC Desire! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Damn, you're fast Man! :)

That is very good. I don't like Manila anyway, but I consider putting clock and some shortcuts on Today screen very handy.

Sorry, I am still not feeling easy in English...

Yes, I mean the "thing" which is represented as "Music" tab in Manila. I am sure there is some program "behind" it; just like in case of the ConnectionManager which is only an element of the settings tab in Manila (or could be represented as separate tab - I have seen it in some releases).

Ok, I presume then if worked on Jackos and stock WM6.1, will work also here. Too bad the voice command won't work here, thus on none of WM6.5 I managed to run it, so I will just have to get used.

OT In Poland TP2 is available in one network only, and prices are not very attractive there, so most people buy it wherever they can... OT

But if you find nothing interesting devices at your operator, this gives us a hope for further issues of your ROMs.

:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
The problems with Voice Command are related to WM6.1. Did some replacing of Bluetooth files but did not succeed in getting VC to work. Therefore I returned the old BT files for stability.

Will have a look at the Music tab. But I'm afraid this is hard to trace since you have to check quite some Manila files. If you do find a screenshot or post about this music player then please let me know!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DJChriZZ:
battery

Hi mates ....

I have flashed another radio on my tp2. using your rom r.2 and radio 4.49.25.91

117h 10min standby

5:27 usage

11 min talktime

60% full load

:-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skrobel:
Yes I read thorough whole your thread :) I found one user who claimed that he used voice command via a BT dongle on stock WM 6.1, but the post was dated October 2009 and when I PM this user I got a message that he doesn't use Rhodium anymore, thus he doesn't remember etc. So let's leave it as is.

I searched over the xda and it seems to me that this is not possible to have an external cab for an app which works as Music Tab in TF3D. I only find posts about HTC Audio Manager, but this is something completely different.

And I love the possibility to control the music with my remote. It was the only reason I bought it. But seems like I can't help you enough to make it possible to help me.

Is this even possible? I can't believe it! :D:D The usage is very small though... 11 minutes talktime within almost 5 days...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
@Skrobel

Just shout when you found anything about the audio player.

This radio does give best results for me as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stanip:
Have tried out the 4.49.25.91 radio on the new 3.1 rom. The previous ram leakage suspicion has disappeared, performance seems slightly better and the battery usage is clearly improved. Thanks DJChriZZ for highlighting this new radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thierry2064:
I flashed 3.1, I had an issue at the beginning with phone not ringing, maybe it was related to the fact I did not hard reset after flashing (not sure), after hard reset it rang. It looks good now.

I was wondering why you used the fdc soft task manager. It is not very practical to switch between apps, not even stylus friendly (you have to tap and hold), what do you use it for (no issue, I am using alttab, I am just curious)?

Keep up good job!

Thierry
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
I understand the confusion. Fdc TaskManager is actually my program to view processes and import\export registry keys. My personal favorite TaskManager would be WkTask. But this program causes increased battery drain :(

So for now my only real alternative is HTC's "stock" task manager.

Currently testing my personal Beta. This week I wan't to flash an uncompressed ROM to see if it actually seems like a speed increase. The cost for this is free storage memory. In my test ROM it took 80MB more storage after flashing. Good thing is that it still leaves about 300MB free for your programs etc. Will have to see if it's even noticeable!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rr100:
It seems there is still something wrong with the BT...

When I flashed 3.1 ROM i can paired my BT headset, but when i wanted to set the activesync via bluetooth i can't start the BT pairing again. (that pane not warking anymore )

Now I put back the original stock ROM, and there is no problem with the bluetooth.

Is it possible to put back the original BT stack in to your next release?

ELSE:

Does anybody use skype/fring with BT headset? I can't, so somebody please help to route audio to the headset without that "jerky" microphone sounds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Will see if there are any differences in the BT part of the ROM, compared to the official WM6.1 ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MisiuKP:
Same problem...:confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Just created a new Beta ROM so I will see if I can do some extensive BT testing on my side ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rr100:
Thanks in advance, I look forward to ...:)

It would be nice if you could look at the Skype with BT headset.

The stock ROM feels like an old low-cost car in the 21 century ...:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Concerning BT I've done some tests with my latest Beta. I'm afraid I can't test everything.

I've made the following steps in about 4 minutes:

Setup Mobile Device Center in Win7 trough BT connection. - succes

Disconnected and send a picture from my Nokia E72 to Touch Pro2. - succes

After this I've send a picture from TP2 > Nokia E72 - succes

Reconnected with Device Center again on Win7 - succes

There were no problems whatsoever on this test. I'm afraid I cannot test any BT Headset since I don't own one :(

I wonder if this procedure is causing any problems on r3.1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rr100:
Can you paired two devices at the same time?

Sorry for this question, but i can't. That pane works only once for me. I do hard reset, but it not solves this problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Will try this BT pairing during the weekend. It might even be possible for me to loan a BT Headset but I can't make any promises on that one!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thierry2064:
All right, I have no problem with 3.1 so far, it is really good (I do not have a BT headset). But the Radio Rom 4.49.25.91 is draining a lot of power. I switched back to 4.49.25.17.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
At the moment I'm testing Radio 4.49.25.77

Can't give any feedback on this one though.

Also managed to get a BT headset. So I will do some testing during next week!

Also added some transparency to the taskbar and softkey buttons. Attached a screenshot of what it looks like when you're using a wallpaper instead of the default black background ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikentucson:
looks good. would like to test. had problems with bluetooth also. couldnt get stereo to connect
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DJChriZZ:
you mean 4.49.25.77. Ok testing 4.49.25.77 radio too ..... tp2 is the best device I used till now :-) with your rom !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Typo fixed.. ...should indeed be 4.49.25.77
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikentucson:
i've never seen transparent taskbars with wm6.1 before.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Credits for transparent the bars go to Ham3r in THIS thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikentucson:
thats pretty sweet! hope u make a full transparent version too :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Small update concerning tests I've been doing.

The transparent bars are not perfect. Somehow some programs cause to show little glitches on the top taskbar. Therefore I'm afraid that I will not implement it just yet. Maybe if somebody comes up with a solution I can implement it. I rather leave something out than have it working 90%. So for now you have to be slightly technical and apply the 'hack' yourself if you want it.

Concerning Bluetooth and simultaneous communication. It is working for me with my current Beta. I've managed to borrow a headset from my brother. It is a Bluetrek UFO. See attached images where I was using Windows Mobile Center on Windows7 to sync my device while I was on a call.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikentucson:
have you tried a FULL transparency to see if you still get the glitch?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
I'm really looking forward to your latest ROM. I loved WM 6.1 because of the speed and stability. One question, can I run Touchflo on this ROM??? Release date on the new ROM? Thanks chef!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Yes I did. But every now and then the glitch appears.

You might search for a TF3D\Manila CAB. If I remember correct there where several CAB's available for the old Diamond, so I guess it should be possible for the Rhodium as well. Since I really don't like Manila on the Rhodium I'm not planning on making a CAB for it as it involves quite some files.

Don't have any release date for it since there are no major issues with the latest 3.1 release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thierry2064:
Hello all,

I am still happy with this Rom. Thanks to Mc Cune advises I now use Pocket Breeze, the only thing I miss is a contact manager that you can use without stylus (Pocket Breeze is good, but with stylus). Now I am using Avatar, which only displays the contact with photos, but this is limited. I am not tempted by iContact, I do not like the rolling option, like iPhone does.

Can Cosmik Debris users tell me what they use ?

Cheers

Thierry
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jaxboater:
Contact Manager and so forth

SPB mobile shell. The UI is great for 99% of TD2 use.

As a matter of fact I may flash this ROM again - it's been a couple of months....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thierry2064:
I agree SPB Mobile Shell is good, but I found (on other Roms) that sometimes everything was slow. Are you keeping good speed at all times ? Maybe I'll try again...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rr100:
I agree SPB Mobile Shell is fine. No problem with speed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jaxboater:
Same here.

Some AT&T apps. may be nice some of the time (WiFi) but not really worth it to load a slow ROM (imho)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
For contacts I've used Inesoft Phone in the past. But this was before I got the Touch Pro2. What's nice about this app is that it has a great full screen callerID. But also a nice contact manager. The 'problem' is that the dialer on the TP2 is great as well. And I don't like two programs eating my memory or slowing down my device. And I don't wan't to disable the HTC dialer because of the flip action etc. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thierry2064:
Thanks to all for your advise. I also prioritize speed, so I would go along with the HTC dialer if I knew a way to go to the "Speed dial" screen, other than dialer->menu->Speed dial. Do you know of any ? Is it possible to have a shortcut to the Speed dial ?

Edit : actually the speed dial does not allow to send SMS, so even if I get a shortcut, it would only be half satisfactory!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Darn... ...the PSU of my PC died. Have to replace it and test the rest of the hardware. So for now I'm just testing my current Beta, but I have to fix things for my PC first before I can continue. Hope to be back very soon!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DJChriZZ:
damn ... I have a PSU here but its old and has not big Power only 220W.

A Good PSU is from LC Power 420W silecne ! I kill you :-) ahhm the PSU is silence

Hope you're back soon here
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
620W OCZ PSU and up and running again. ;-)

Here is the current changelog for the Beta I'm currently using:

Updated CleanRAM to 2.1

Compressed more files

Updated MMS Client

Updated PocketRAR

Removed IA_ZIP

Updated SYS folder with more 21056 files

Updated OEM folder with more 21056 files

Removed Advanced Config

Removed HTC's ContactsUtil

Removed FieldTest

Removed HTC NewEmailAccount app.

Removed CMPhone

Removed CMPin

Increased maximum size for panorama photo's.

Old WM keyboard, blue > gray

Fixed theme issues

Fixed: Undismissable BT notification

6.5 Native Kernel

Large Menu enabled in Landscape

10MB PagePool

There are still a few more things on my ToDo list. But this is just to let you know that I'm not being lazy! :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stanip:
Look forward to testing out your enhanced rom...

By the way, any reason why pagepool is only 10mb?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Busted! I'm still experimenting with different PagePool settings. The latest setting was 10MB. I'm using a memo file to keep track of my changes. That's why it was still in there.

Please share your thoughts about different PagePool settings. You can use a PagePool changer yourself to modify the .NBH file of my ROM in case some of you didn't know that already ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] virus154:
Love the speed. Everything works great except bluetooth is buggy. Can't see paired devices. Bluetooth utility works one time then will not open again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] alexander_sibags@mail.ru:
My PP is 20mb, and all fast and stable with u Rom :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] virus154:
I can't get the Bluetooth utility to show connected devices like in your screenshots. The Bluetooth utility will run once. Once I add devices, it will freeze everytime I try to run it again. Can't add stereo Bluetooth.

I found a workaround for adding bluetooth devices. I'll flash a rom with a working Bluetooth utility, add my devices, backup with SPB Backup, flash to this rom, and restore system. Bluetooth devices work great from there, but I can't add additional devices using this rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
What ROM version are you using?

I think I'll release 3.2 within a few days. Been testing it and it all seems stable enough to replace 3.1 ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] virus154:
I'm using version 3.1 since last night. This rom is almost perfect. It can run 10 apps with no shortage of program memory. Super fast too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Strange... BT is pretty much stock.. Will see if I can find out anything.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Changes from 3.1 > 3.3

20MB PagePool
Updated SYS folder with more 21056 files
Updated OEM folder with more 21056 files
Update cleanRAM to v2.2
XIP Hybrid with 21898
Compressed some extra files
Updated MMS Client
Updated PocketRAR
Removed IA_ZIP
Removed Advanced Config
Removed HTC's ContactsUtil
Removed FieldTest
Removed HTC NewEmailAccount app.
Removed CMPhone
Removed CMPin
Removed Enterprise
Removed IPSecVPN
Removed PKG
Removed SIM Toolkit
Removed SQLCE
Removed SQLMobile
Increased maximum size for panorama photo's.
Old WM keyboard, blue > gray
Fixed theme issues
Large Menu enabled in Landscape
Hide lines of today screen plugins
Added Bluetooth notification settings to the Cosmik Debris Settings Script
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] virus154:
BT utility works as normal with version 3.2. This is great!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Thanks for the reply!

I feel like this release is the best I can get out of WM6.1. It contains all my knowledge about WinMo and this project made me even learn more.

It feels great when I see other people enjoy my effort and are working with this Cosmik Debris ROM.

Now it's time to get some sleep. See you all tomorrow...

-Posted from my TouchPro2-
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikentucson:
just wanna throw in my 2cents and say i think this was the best rom i tried for my Tilt2. 6.5 always seemed to slow down too much for me with a few apps open. i was always a fan of mobileshell so your rom was perfect for me. but recently my wife and i both picked up HD2s and im finally happy with Manila 2.5 and 300MB+ free ram. the phone is freaking awesome! i'll be flashing your 3.2 rom to the Tilt2 for my son though :) keep up the good work, but like you said, 6.1 probably cant get any fast that this on the TP2/Tilt2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] virus154:
Tellme works with this rom too. This is the first rom I've used that is able to rum Tellme.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=576961
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] norritt:
a brilliant rom! Thanks for all your efforts. After all the eye-candy roms I actually enjoy now the clean and information driven home screen and speeed.

which homescreen addons do you recommend to keep up with weather and cal/todo organization? Is there somewhere already a must-have list?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DADDYDC650:
Going to try out the latest release and see what the fuss is about...

ROM is very fast and responsive. I'd use it all the time but I need the eye candy because I'm a gfx whore. I'm not a fan of the action program being mapped to the power button. It's useless in landscape mode...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] stanip:
New ROM is light, stable and very responsive. Thanks all the great work in cooking a very speedy rom.

Re the action list, are there ways to remove it to allow pressing on/off to direct go to power off? Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mccune:
Need to recook the ROM to get rid of the long press power button function.

If you like that I can do this for you.

@norritt

There are various weather apps. Personaly I like SPB Weather. But you could also take a look at SBSH or the weather app from AGeye.