yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] gavinfabl:
Nonsense.

The HTC Hero (which was my last phone) was great, but Android 1.6 and above is great. I had an Acer A1 Liquid to review. It was amazing. And in some ways wipped the floor with the HD2 but overall the HD2 had the edge where I needed the spec.

The Acer A1 has very little added to the basic android.
[HD2 General] gavinfabl:
Just thinking more about this thread. Common, as soon as we buy a gadget its normally being outdated by newer models on the market place. Why dont we start a thread "Shall I get the Moto Android device with a HDMI slot or buy an HD2".

I review tons of devices.. and own many. Most of the phones I have looked at this year are all very good, all had different operating systems. At the end of the day its personal preference.

Also, and luckily the HD2 has a longer lease of life due to the confirmed upgrade path. I am also seeing some very good games finally ported from Apple Iphone to WM.

The HD2 is the first device whereby I can see longevity, a great XDA community which will help create a vibrant better device.
[HD2 General] terminal 7:
hd2 against the nexus

ok

im in love with my hd2 but i love my g1 android phone too..

simple - ill buy a nexus one too.. can never have too many decent handheld devices...

stop comparing as if theres only room for one device in your life, set yourself free and have all of them , even apple too !!

=====PEACE=====
[HD2 General] mightymn:
Couldn't agree more!

Ultimately what decides it is personal preference. If you want WM then it doesn't make sense thinking of N1. Personally what makes me stay away from android is that I can't do much customizing without first rooting the device. And I'm not sure about this one; is there a decent media player for rooted devices? I can't imagine not being able to play divx/xvid

If you want sense on android then you won't get it with N1 unless you flash custom ROMs (when available and when sense is ready for snapdragon and android 2.1)

If you don't really care if it has android or WM, the choice is then between a larger screen with less saturated colors and an AMOLED screen which will supposedly be a lot better with colors but also 0.6" smaller, or between looks (where I think HD2 excels)

In terms of longevity I think they're similar because N1 is HTC made and we will probably have a forum section for it here in XDA.

Though I'll have to admit, 530 dollars is great for a phone like N1!
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
Gavin,

I am surprised you rose to the bait that was laid out. I knew it wasn't worth pursuing as most intelligent people can read and form their own opinions so I said no more on those comments. :)

Too many flame wars happen on here with overstretched ego's being pushed to their limits, ending up in legitimate threads being shut down, so I left it as it would not have been fair to the OP.

You have to accept there will always be a maverick out there keen to let us know that the world is flat when we all know the damned place is round. :). You, as a reviewer, must surely have sussed that by now. :)

WB
[HD2 General] Martyn Day:
i was in two minds when i got my htc hd2 i was thinking is this pos really worth 495£, and i just think that better roms will come out, making the battery last longer and better apps and games will come out lol
[HD2 General] StrangeReality:
You haven't seen those bendable screens, have you? Don't underestimate technology ;)
[HD2 General] Raspster:
Personally, I would LOVE to see this phone with the latest sense UI. I hear the NEW sense UI for WVGA android devices will have all the candy look of the windows mobile ones. Is there a version of the nexus with this..? I see the bravo, the dragon, the passion. One has 850/1900 3G, the other has 900/2100 3G, and another has 1700/2100 3G etc etc. One has 320/512 RAM, another has 512/512 and another with 256/512.. WTH..? LOL
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
You shouldn't worry, it's a widespread desease among reviewers to love everything that comes from Google.

You are free to dismiss Android's drawbacks or consider them unimportant but they're there nevertheless.
[HD2 General] SOLRAC13:
Plus the HD2 has great sound are you kidding ?

I never own an Android device, my previous phones were Nokia 5800 and N97.

And always looking for perfection,that's the reason I bought my first WM > Leo.

Ok I understand must devise have bugs, but when it comes to sound I can confirm Leo has the worst external sound and same issue with internal speaker.

So if you are sure you can send sms ,receive and make clear phone calls, have a nice net browsing and perhaps make some nice shots, then yes it may be a better choice and move into some thing else, because having a huge screen is not everything a phone must have :)
[HD2 General] gavinfabl:
@ vangrieg - I wasnt sent the Acer A1 as a freebie to review. I actually bought it and really loved it. It had a few things that for me, made the HD2 a clear winner.

I also bought the Samsung Omnia II, but couldnt get to grips with the color scheme. Otherwise a very well featured phone.

@ solrac13

As I said, I had a Hero, again bought, but the chin made it slightly awkward when typing in landscape. Otherwise I love this phone too. Very easy to use

@ all

I happen to change phones very regularly. Despite reviewing phones, I only review phones I have bought myself. I dont prefer one operating system over another. Each have their own advantages / disadvantages and it depends on what you prefer.

I have a blackberry (work provided) and for work needs it serves it purpose very well. I like the iPhone but the hardware specs / my needs arent yet catered for. Android 12 months ago was IMO premature. The HTC Hero turned the corner for Android as have a number of other new devices. In another 6 months Android could be very interesting, but so could the new iPhone, so could the new Windows Phones, so could a Blackberry or Palm Web OS. And lets not forget symbian.

In fact the differences between the hardware specs is reducing rapidly to the point whereby software integration could make or break a phone.

I didnt buy the HD2 because it ran Windows. I bought it because HTC did a great job of integrating the hardware with the software. And still left room to improve it.

As to my next phone, who knows. If I go by last year, I had 14 phones in total covering windows, palm web os, symbian, android and apple.
[HD2 General] adell_:
gavinfabl,

You still miss Maemo. :)
[HD2 General] Eoinoc:
You you being paid to make up stuff like that?
[HD2 General] gavinfabl:
not tried that yet. i assume you mean the n900. have you? :)

@solrac13 - just seen your view on the hd2 sound. i hsve no issues. calls are load and clear for me. audio ie music is better imo than my ipod touch. i listen usng sennheiser hd415 .
[HD2 General] securitymayo:
Same here! When i got the xperia, i loved the screensize, not to big.

But now i've got the HD2 for 4 days now (arrived 30 december) and i love the big screen :D:D. Because i'm a firefighter:eek: (and i'm afraid for scratches on my phone;)) , i took my xperia 31 december at 11PM, to use it the whole night.

Compared to the hd2, it's to small to read :p
[HD2 General] xaban:
Phone is not a dress or a car to decide every morning which one to take that day...
[HD2 General] SOLRAC13:
htc hd2 call sound

@gavinfabl >Glad to hear you don't have that issue unfortunately it seems to be one more comun defects on this devise (in my case, when receiving or diling a call i hear my own voice on Echo besides the distortion noise ) And when trying to lissend music coming from the built in speaker the sound is of very low quality and if i dear put volume up is even worst.

Never had this with Nokia
[HD2 General] freyberry:
Look at this: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/02/exclusive-google-nexus-one-hands-on-video-and-first-impressio/

That thing is beautiful. The iPhone looks so stale next to it on one of those pictures. Did I say that I like trackballs on phones?

However, the weaker single LED and Exchange support are dealbrakers for me. Also, Android 2.1 still doesn't look refined enough, it's missing multitouch support despite the capacitive screen and the native media applications are far worse than those provided by HTC on the HD2.

I'll stay with Windows Mobile. Android is nice, but from playing around with it for some time, I really can't see anything that would make it special, or at least better than Windows Mobile. In addition to that, the HD2 still has the better hardware.

Android is certainly easier to use for those who haven't had smartphones before, or don't need some advanced features that only Windows Mobile provides. But it also lacks some features that, at least for me, are crucial, and it's not a good sign that Google still does not deliver a fluid experience with multitouch and all, despite Android being already at version 2.1 and this phone being Google branded. Somehow, I feel that with the HD2, HTC managed to deliver a more fluid experience than Google with the Nexus, despite not being the company that makes the OS and despite the rather ugly Windows Mobile as base.

But the Dragon and the Leo definitely will give the iPhone a run for its money, and they're both a lot better in many ways. If only HTC would release the Dragon under its own brand, so that people around the world would recognize HTC more than they do now - as the company that (arguably) makes not only one, but the two best phones ever created.
[HD2 General] lovebell:
512RAM is really sweet.
[HD2 General] AbdullahT:
No chance.

HTC HD2 overall design is way better than Nexus1. Moreover, I like htc hd2 4.3" screen, its the main reason why I bought this device.

also, I think there is a big chance that we have cooked Android OS on our htc hd2 after the release of Nexus1 since both devices have same processor chipset.
[HD2 General] lindarne:
i wonder if i'll get bashed for this one...

i actually like both design and hardware of the nexus one and since my current phone is an old SE x1 the 3.7 inch'er of the nexus seems huge in my eyes. yes i've had the hd2 in my hands and no question about it's looks eigther, but i'd love to have a nexus with wm on it.

does anyone know if it is posible to port a wm 6.5.x built to it?

both r htc hardware and quite similar at that. and since 6.5.x is meant to run capacitive devices. well...

no offence to android fans. wm just fits my taste better.

and to those who prefers android the opposite might not be imposible eigther.

i'm only an amateour when it comes to roms and platforms, but to me these two seem so similar that crossporting could work. best of both worlds- wichever u prefer :-)
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] 89csl:
i installed the wm 6.5 the fast on from this forum, and it just fu...s up after a few hours.

Before i intalled the wm 6.5 i had wm 6 pro and the phone worked great, how can i instal back the wm6?

i Got an HTC p4350 (herald).

if u can help can u put the links with the rom and other applications that i need, and what do i need to do pls :(
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] 89csl:
i guese no one wanna help arround here....
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] Dr.Gonz0:
Oh... you're meaning go back to your stock ROM? hehe try some of the other roms floating around here before scurrying back to your stock rom. If you pushed it this far, may as well go that extra step. Although you can always grab sjk and experiment with making your own wm6 rom.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] ashasaur:
To go back, you simply flash a WM6.0 ROM...thats it.
[Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading] 89csl:
can u give me a link with a stable wm 6?

i tried to put back tho original wm but it dosent want to install.

it starts instaling gose to 1% and then the phone restarts :(

can you tel me what to do?
[Off-topic] benko286:
I have always wanted to know on which continent there are the most hTC users ;)

Please participate, vote and

post comment to keep this thread alive

!
[Off-topic] janneman22:
From Netherlands:D
[Off-topic] brewhoxs:
Greetings from Indonesia! ;)
[Off-topic] freco:
Happy new year from Greece.
[Off-topic] Stiophan:
Danish

Happy newyear to you all
[Off-topic] Customized:
Happy New Year from Poland!
[Off-topic] kasraac:
Middle East_IRAN
[Off-topic] Jayedamina:
new year greetings to all from New York city USA:)
[Off-topic] bunu:
Hello! If this is where you live now then I'm in the U.S.A but if it is where you came from then Hello from India!!
[Off-topic] Kamill:
Same from me :)
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Happy new year from México City!!
[Off-topic] Hannigan174:
I am from the USA. I am pretty surprised that it looks like about equal proportions of North Americans to Asians, and more than three times as many Europeans as North Americans and Asians combined!

At least as of this typing...
[Off-topic] sp3dev:
Happy new year from Russia ;)
[Off-topic] band27:
HAPPY NEW YEAR to all from CANADA....:D
[Off-topic] galaxys:
Happy New Year from Las Vegas, USA!
[Off-topic] kwill:
HAPPY NEW YEAR FOLKS from Austin, Texas!!
[Off-topic] ianderson_76:
Happy 2010 from Charlotte, NC, USA
[Off-topic] Dom1n8tr1x:
Oudtshoorn, South Africa... and the only one from the African continent according to the poll. :p
[Off-topic] slash_5150:
Happy 2010 from Singapore! :D
[Off-topic] buckyg:
Happy New Year from the US. Interesting results on the poll so far. Wonder if they will change much
[P3400 ROM Development] pavanbaw:
BEFORE STARTING WITH MY NEW YEAR GIFT TO ALL ....WISH U ALL A VERRY HAPPY NEW YEAR.

HERE IS I M INTRODUCING NEW WM 6.1 ULTIMATE SERIES.

I HOPE I WILL GET THE SAME RESPONSE AS I GOT BEFORE FOR MY 6.5 RELEASES

LETS HAVE A LOOK AT ROM

FREE RAM AS MENTION IN PIC. IS 21MB WITH TOUCH FLO V2.00

AFTER SOMETIME IT REDUCES TO ~18MB.

NOW COMING TO THE PACKAGES:

TOUCH FLO VERSION 2.00

POCKET DIGITAL CLOCK

UI TWEAKER

AUDIO MANAGER

AUDIO BOOSTER

ADOBE READER

MADE TEXT EDITOR

POCKET RAR

GOOGLE MAPS

REMOTE DESKTOP

M2DC

PPC PIM BACKUP

TASK MANAGER 2

USB2PC

BLUETOOTH EXPLORER

OFFICE MOBILE

NOTES

WMP

XDA SHUTDOWN

HIBERNATE

JAVA

GAMES

POCKET NESTER

SOLITAIRE

BUBBLE BREAKER
[P3400 ROM Development] pavanbaw:
RESERVED..........................
[P3400 ROM Development] pavanbaw:
Future reserved
[P3400 ROM Development] shail00:
Cool!

Hi Pavan,

First of all,HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL THE FORUM MEMBERS.

COMING BACK TO THE ROM,THE SCREENS LOOKS AWSOME AND WAITING EAGRELY TO SPECIALLY TRY MANILLA 2.0

bEST OF LUCK BUD.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDYx1975:
This rom combines speed and stability in one ROM. This rom is very smooth and contains most needed addons for daily use.

Pictures are english, but there's also an german version available. Those Screens are the same just in a different language:

Diashow:

http://img514.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=home4icons.jpg

Key Features:

- Diverse Speed Tweaks

- WM Build 21890

- Hybrid Manila based on Leo 2.07 and Leo 1.66

- nativer Kernel (speicheroptimiert)

- nueSpinLock patched

- Drag&Drop Startmenü zum Anordnen der Programme

- Automatisches Einstellen des Datums und der Uhrzeit

- Grafik Performance Tweaks (No NeoDrivers needed)

- UDLR reduced

- NETCF 3.5

- Optimized Blackstone drivers based on 1.59.707

- Beautiful Custom Icons

- CommManager with 3G enable/disable

- Rhodium with voice and conference call

- SDTuneUp

- SDKCerts

- sqeezed .exe files

Integrated Add-Ons:

- BirthdayToCalendarInstall

- Clean RAM 1.9.5

- BsB Tweaks 1.6

- ChangeScreen 2.78

- ClearTemp

- DialUpEnablerDisabler v0.6

- fexploreext_v2.05

- FlashLite_DP_WM6Professional

- GConfig

- HTC Official Leo Camera Fix

- HTCPedia HD Settings Tool

- HyperGPS Beta 9

- HZService O2

- JWMDIconChanger v2.6b

- Manila Language Changer v0.6

- MortScript 4.2

- PIM Backup 2.8

- RegEdit 0.70

- ShakeAndSave

- Skyfire1.5

- SmartLock 2.0f

- TotalCommander 2.52

- TouchInCallScreenTweak 1.2

- WindowsMobileRegistryCleaner 1.0

- Pocket WinRar

- XDA Shutdown 1.01

Removed:

- World Card Mobile

- Welcome Center

- Bing

#########################################################################################################################

Changelog 3.0 Final RC3:

#########################################################################################################################

- WM Build 21898

- Major speed improvements

- RAM usage reduced (3-6% less ram ussage as before)

- improved drivers

- new manila home (old one hand some slow downs)

- GoogleMaps updated to 3.2.116

- CleanRAM updated to 2.1

- various bugfixes

*************************************************************************************************************************

[Manila 2.5][21887]

*************************************************************************************************************************

Download Version 3.0 Final RC3 [German + Full Version => incl. Add Ons] :

http://rapidshare.com/files/370098002/BlackDragon3RC3German.7z

Download Version 3.0 Final RC3 [WWE + Full Version => incl. Add Ons]:

http://rapidshare.com/files/378589301/BlackDragonFinalWWE.7z

If you like my work and want to motivate me to go on...pay me a beer:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDYx1975:
Most Gadgets use Lithium ion batteries. Life of such batteries can be extended using some Tricks:

1. A Lithium Ion battery should never be charged to 100% or fully Discharged. The famous 80-20 rule is applicable here as well, though in a different way. Charging to 80% increases battery life.

2. Don’t wait for full discharge, charge it frequently. Keeping the battery near to 80% always, gives better life. This is also what many vendors claim as “memory effect”.

3. Every battery has limited Full charge-discharge cycles. Of the order of 300+. In other words a typical phone battery can be fully charged/discharged 300 times. Doing more frequent charges, as specified in point #2, will increase overall life.

4. During first time use (when the battery is new) don`t use it till its fully charged. This is why it is always written on manuals “let the device charge for 2-3 hours”.

5. Best way to increase battery life is Not to use it. If you keep AC power plugged in on your phones, keeping the battery at 80% (as in #1), your battery will last longer. Though discharging it once in a month would be must in such cases.

6. Surrounding temperature contributes a lot. Colder weather gives better battery life. So make sure your cellphone doesn’t overheat, if it does, find ways to keep it cool.

7. When not in use for long, store the battery keeping point 1 and point 6 in mind.

Apart from this there are specific tips to elongate battery life which are related to user’s usage:

1. Keep the screen brightness to as low as possible. This can reduce battery consumption by upto 40%.

2. Don’t do heavy tasks like gaming when running on battery. This often uses High CPU graphics which drains battery faster.

3. Kill background processes that you are not using, multitasking is one serious battery killer.

4. Use headsets for long conversations. This will give you 40-70% improvement in talk time. Why? because when you hold the cellphone in hands, your body absorbs most of the RF.

5. Use software like WMLongLife, it can increase battery significantly. It does that by switching the network mode to 2G automatically when you doesn’t require 3G

Source:

http://www.wmskins.com/blog/how-to-increase-battery-life-of-windows-mobiles
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDYx1975:
BlackDragon - reserved for me
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TronC:
Nice, a new cooker!:D

Wil give your ROM a try, Thanks a lot!:)

Good luck in the future!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] powerdete:
iss ja cool!:eek:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jammysunny:
the best try you can do!!

his roms are great, i hope, he can cook german roms more longer than other german cooks:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] flame99:
wow great, getting my hd next week and can not wait to test your rom on it :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hamkeng:
I flashed the WWE version, and as you say, the rom feels rather quick, but there is a couple of issuses.

First the screenshots you provided is not of this rom.

This is a 5.2.23016 (23016.5.3.0) with the normal top taskbar and not as stated in the screen-shots.

I really had to check if I had flashed the right rom.

There are two connection setups the old and the new one, just ignore the old one.

There's no text in the power settings, and not possible to adjust the back-light even after two hard resets, and I find no shortcut to it in the settings, but is found via Notifications or manila settings tab.

The settings shortcut goes via manila settings.

Somewhat small, but nice icons in the start menu and an highlighting that hide the white icon text, a bit annoying.

Not able to choose the Send button in button settings.

This is just a quick test. But the rom feels very fast, and I'm hopeful for further releases.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] giniman:
Great to see another german rom cooker :D

Will give it a try.

greetz giniman
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDYx1975:
Yeah it's a newly build rom...thanks for your feedback...I need 1 or 2 runs to make it perfekt...the german version already runs great. You're right...I forgot the power language package, so that's why it does not work. The send button issue I have to check. You can count with a new update soon.

But hey the screenshots are real...I made them for myself. Just the diashow was wrong it was from my second rom. So I will upload a new version soon.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDYx1975:
So first bugfixes for WWE Release are done...new version is up. So have fun with with a more stable release. Have fun and a happy new year!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hamkeng:
I will try as soon as possible. I really liked the the speed of this rom.

Did you add some folders in start menu for better organizing?

This can be easily done by ourselves, so it's not a big issue.

Looking forward to test it. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onai:
the file extensions seems to be .exe, (BlackDragon1.6.1.exe) should we change it to rar or zip? waiting for your confirmation to download the rom.

Thanks for the quick update.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hamkeng:
It's just a 7zip auto archive, safe to download and run to unpack. :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aliff:
Hi Guys! Happy New Year!

Can anybody post screens of the new version, plz.

I can see nothing under "Pictures" in the first post.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDYx1975:
No it is a self extracting file archive...double click it...choose your storage location and start flashing as usual.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDYx1975:
Yeah I have a tools, multimedia, games and office. I guess everybody wants to have different folders...so that's why I did not created more folders. You can user the Icon change tool in the tools foder and you can save your theme for the next time.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDYx1975:
Here we go some fresh pictures...they are in german...but there's also an english wwe version of the rom.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Erkin Ay:
"Important Note:

If you do not use radio 1.12 please do not forget to install the rilphone. This is very important for the power usage of your device. "

Meine Funkempfängerversion ist 1.13.25.24 Muß ich trotdem diesen "rilphone" installieren?

Translate : my radio is 1.13.25.24 must I have to install this "rilphone"?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dool2002:
Welcome aboard New Chef

I have a request....is there a chance to produce a Vanilla edition (without any added programs AT ALL) as for example i prefer to use Resco File Explorer & Reg. Editor rather than Total Commander & PHM Reg Editor

Also i use the 1.17 radio...should i install "rilphone" too?

Thanks for ur efforts...am downloading now & will feedback as soon as i flash
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ANDYx1975:
I am almost ready to release...but I am still struggling with some small issues. As soon as they are solved.