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[General Topics] ansar.ath.gr:
Hi,

This is the final printscreen of PKTOOLS:

[Core OS]

Windows Mobile-based Pocket PCs

[Versions]

OEM: 5.2.0.203

SYS: 5.2.28005.5300

NET: 3.5.9198.0

[Language]

0409 - English (United States)

[DPI]

96

[Certificates]

CN=OEM_UpdateCert

CN=MiTAC001

CN=OEM Sign 2005

O=MiTAC Root Certificate Authority

O=MiTAC Root Certificate Authority

CN=Microsoft Corporation CE Image Update Test - Root

CN=Microsoft MDD Dogfood CA - MS Root

CN=Microsoft Windows Mobile PCA, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US

[Missing Manifests]

Regards, ansar

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Mio A701

UBoot R48

CE image WM6.2 CE OS 5.2.28005 Build 28005.5.3.0 LZX M2D Mobile Vista 6.50 SeaDragon

GSW 3.2.2_3.1.00.12 - SDK.003P1.01a
[General Topics] ansar.ath.gr:
H,

Upgrade info on #1 post.

Regards, ansar
[General Topics] ansar.ath.gr:
H,

SeaDragon 6.500 final version with 4, 6, 8, 12 and 16MB page pool is been uploaded.

Regards, ansar.
[General Topics] Feri_1:
IGO 8 - Memory

Hi Ansar.

I have installed your ROM.

I checked what programs do I have: Costomatization tool, Ms Mobile Vista, HTC SeaDragon files_28005, HTC streaing Media, Ansar Skype, Showaco Choma editor.

Based upon this, I use 31 Mbyte Storage memory from 64. And I don't know for what reason sometimes I use 31 MB or 27 MB from 39,67 MB Program memory.

It looks like this amount of memory is not enough to run IGO 8.

What do I have to do?

THX, Feri
[General Topics] Feri_1:
Hi.

I installed the 4 MB pool page memory version, and now I have 20 Mbyte free program memory from 50.

Igo works with this.

Feri
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Looks like HTC has done it again and delivered a phone that should run crazy fast on paper BUT the actual performance is sub-par compared to other phones:

HTC Nexus One (FAILphone):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvzxZ8tOBcQ

HTC Magic and HTC Liquid Benchmark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O36LA6EhZg4
[Nexus One General] andythefan:
I don't think that Neocore benchmarks the entire system, maybe more on the graphics chip. I don't know any specifics on the N1's graphics capabilities, but the 1 ghz snapdragon cpu is a definite boost from its predecessors.
[Nexus One General] K69:
Do you work for Apple? ;)
[Nexus One General] andythefan:
How does it do on PiBenchmark? That would provide more relevant results with its Snapdragon processor.
[Nexus One General] xtop:
doesn't the liquid come with an underclocked snapdragon?
[Nexus One General] Weemoney:
I have a Magic that is rooted and tweaked to all hell and have played with the nexus. There is no doubt that the Google phone out performs any other phone that HTC has released. Ive seen it first hand. Its very fast and can handle so many things going on at the same time it makes my tummy tickle.
[Nexus One General] staulkor:
You are an idiot. Get your panties out of a bunch because you are pissed at the price and that it has no AT&T 3G. Should we all be pissed that the Droid only works on Verizon? Should we all be pissed that the iPhone only has AT&T 3G? The Nexus One is designed to be on T-Mobile. Sure, it will technically work on any GSM provider, but that isn't what it was intended to do. Google must have some deal with T-Mobile since they offers the most android phones.

And about the performance, that only shows video performance, and we dont know for sure what the N1 and A1 have in terms of a GPU
[Nexus One General] andythefan:
I thought neocore tested the graphics chip with 3d benchamarking?
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
It's called system on a chip.

and the telling comparison is the Acer Liquid with its ~750MHz Snapdragon CPU (underclocked) vs. the Nexus One with its 1GHz Snapdragon CPU.

Looks like HTC screwed up again.

Ohhh. The other posters are pissed because their Messiah phone is a big FAIL?
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
What are you, 15 years old? Get off of mommy's computer and stop *****ing because you can't use the N1 on your network and get 3G.
[Nexus One General] Maedhros:
Im guessing the benchmark isnt accurate. It goes beyond common senese that the fps are the same as the magic.
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Actually ... it goes nicely with HTC's track record of under-performing hardware.
[Nexus One General] coolbho3000:
We have too many variables that makes comparing these results difficult. The HTC Magic and Liquid are running 1.6, while the Nexus is running 2.1. There are dramatically different levels of overhead on different Android system versions. There could be way more overhead on Android 2.1 than on 1.6. Additionally, you forgot to mention that the Nexus One is running at a resolution 2.5 times that of the HTC Magic.

Just because you're not going to buy the Nexus (because you recently purchased another handset and are trying to justify your purchase, or because it doesn't support your carrier's 3G frequencies, or otherwise) doesn't mean you are obliged to spam these forums with "OMG THIS PHONE IS FAIL"
[Nexus One General] Dave Hagenaars:
the resolution used on the n1 is far higher than on the older devices remember ;)
[Nexus One General] Semantics:
The only FAIL here are your posts. You sound like a Droid owner, pissed that your phone is about to lose top dog status. Just crawl back into your parents basement, fire up your xbox, and shoot some 12 year olds. It will help you get over the fact that you are a huge FAIL.
[Nexus One General] rlplking:
lol @semantics now thats funny man
[Nexus One General] harsaphes:
I have had this phone for three weeks now and one thing its not is SLOW. Its way faster than my 3GS and my Mytouch.
[Nexus One General] Manacit:
I got 27.4 FPS on my G1.

I'm pretty sure the N1 isn't slower then the G1. That would be stupid.
[Nexus One General] esincho:
I don't give a damn, I'm buying this joint day 1!! LOL
[Nexus One General] mountainfrog:
my theory:

1. Neocore is designed to work with android 1.6 and Open GL ES 1.1

2. The Liquid A1 has the same processor (albeit underclocked) and the same screen resolution as the N1 so you would expect them to perform similarliy. They dont perfrom the same so you must look at the differences between the phones. The biggest to me is the fact that the Liquid A1 has Android 1.6 and Open GL ES 1.1, the sweet spot for Neocore.

3. The N1 had Android 2.1 and Open GL ES 2.0, specs that are not supported by Neocore. How can Neocore accurately test the N1 when it does not support its specifications? The slowness is not due to poor hardware, rather it is due to old software trying to run on the latest hardware.
[Nexus One General] stogchris81:
if you are not a lawyer...you should look into it.
[Nexus One General] andythefan:
New info!

Turns our N1's Snapdragon does NOT include a dedicated GPU. Here's why:

http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=12340.new
[Nexus One General] xtop:
i wouldn't exactly call that a confirmation. just because the snapdragon inside doesn't have the dedicated gpu like the newer snapdragon does, doesn't mean there isn't a dedicated gpu inside ;)

besides..according to the specs, the 3d power inside is more than enough
[Nexus One General] LB280772:
Just for info I have a HD2 that has the same CPU than the Nexus1.

It has a dedicated GPU build inside. It is the AMD Z430 able to output up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec.

See the official Snapdragon site: http://www.qctconnect.com/products/snapdragon.html

The only issue with that gpu is it only support OpenGL ES 2.0. The other mode are emulated...

Stop whining regarding the phone... It become really annoying to see ppl whining instead to be helpfull.
[Nexus One General] coolbho3000:
Qualcomm's spec sheets do say the QSD8250 has a dedicated GPU:

http://www.qctconnect.com/products/snapdragon.html
[Nexus One General] jeezus:
Where excatly? maybe I'm blind, but I can only see CPU and DSP.
[Nexus One General] gamikzone:
the n1 is not a fail qualcomm defiently makes good processers ive always preffered them over other brands
[Nexus One General] LB280772:
And how do you thing a 1 Ghz CPU can output 22M triangles/s and meets the requirement of Open GL ES 2.0 ? Only by software without a dedicated hardware!?

Dig on internet before making allegation... If I know it is a AMD z430 it is because benchmark application recognized it as an AMD z430... That's it...

Just for info a game, Electopia, was developed by Qualomm and Southend to show the 3D power of the Snapdragon (I own an HTC HD2 that have the same CPU and it run that game smoothly as hell).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCwtOioGR8c

http://www.southend.se/games/electopia/index.php
[Nexus One General] t-mizzle:
The OP is contradicting, in the second video it is clear that the 23% under clocked version of the same CPU, at the same impressive resolution of 840x400 scores ~35 FPS. So it's a software issue, otherwise the N1 would grasp for the 40's.

And here is another benchmark result. This one points to a 70% advantage over the droid. Take neither benchmark to heart. What matters is every day's performance and that was demonstrated in the 10 minute video.

http://www.androlib.com/android.application-comment.softweg-hw-performance-jiCn.aspx

graphic

Total graphics score: 28.704073

CPU

Total CPU scoreL 695.6539

Memory

Total memory score: 322.06616

Filesystem

Total file system scre: 76.19072

Wow, thanks for that. I'll give you guys some number crunching to whet you appetite.

vs Droid

Graphics: 28.7 Vs 17 = Nexus ~69% faster

CPU: 695.65 vs 415 = Nexus ~68% faster

Memory: 322 vs 320 = Even. Not enough of a difference

Filesystem: 76 vs 73 = Even. Not much of a difference again.
[HD2 General] borgqueenx:
I am a true iphone user for a year now, but thats only because i always want to have the greatest phone. I had a touch diamond before from htc, and it sucked.

Here is what i dislike about the touch diamond:

-Needed a reboot every day.

-Slow.

-Ram becomes filled with nothing quickly.

-sms messages dont arrive sometimes.

-did i mention it was freaking slow?

This is why i chose a touch diamond:

-Touchflow 3d is superb.

Well the iPhone 3gs is certainly better then a touch diamond, but today i saw the HD2 in the store and now im really confused what phone i want.

I have a iphone 3gs and love the huge collection of apps and games.

Like music reconition, watching the newspapers quickly, all the jailbreak emulators, tv guide, jibbigo speech translator, and some other apps.

Again a list of things i like and dislike.

iPhone 3gs things i like:

-Easy.

-Smooth.

-Simple.(has disadvantage)

-Fast, blazing fast!

-The App Store.

iPhone 3gs things i dislike in comparision to the experience i had with HD2 today, and pro's of the HD2:

-Simple. I have to launch a app to get information on my 3gs. With the HD2 you have about 10 things at desame time.

-The screen of HD2.....the size of the screen, the colors and the resolution.

It really made me in love.

-5MP camera with a flash has the HD2, but i know the camera of the iphone is good even with 3,2MP.

-The HD2 has skyfire, and i can watch youtube videos with the builded in browser or not?

-The HD has such a beautiful weather function.

Con's why i still choose for iPhone 3Gs:

-The HD2 aint got the app store. Windows marketplace is a joke so far.

-I dont got beautiful experience with windows mobile.(reboots, ram getting full, not fast but rather slow performance.

-iPhone 3gs got nice and clean sms chat system.

Thing i dont know yet what will help me decide:

-Does the HD2 got flash player in the browser? so i can watch youtube without the decicated app for youtube videos?

-Is the HD2 fast and will it hold being fast?

-Battery Life any good in comparision to the iPhone 3gs?

-Do i have to reboot alot?

-Is the sms receive issue solved already in some firmware update or cooked rom?

-Are there cool 3d games available?

-Are there augmented reality apps and text scanners? (to get text from a photo)

-Are there apps that can replace the apps i use on my iphone the most?

(music reconition for knowing what song is on, a good nice designed msn messenger, decibel meterwebcam viewer, metal detector(because compass) and a app to make encrypted notes?)

Finally, i want to say that im not an apple fanboy. Im a fanboy of the best phone, and im really having a large decision to make here. i love both devices so far.

Any replys will be welcomed alot:)

Thanks, Borg Queen X.:)
[HD2 General] H2D2:
Skyfire lets you watch flash in browser

I think there's a fix for Opera to allow flash as well

Yes, it's very fast, and only going to get faster with the 1.6x/2.x roms (not to mention the cooked roms in development)

Better than the iPhone 3gs even with stock rom, but only slightly. Users of the 1.6x roms report better battery life than stock rom, so yes.

I don't have to reboot often, as far as I'm concerned it's an always-on device. Only times I have to reboot is when installing some apps

I don't have the sms issue, only because I don't text much! But it can be resolved by disabling HTC messaging and using pocket outlook. I'm sure there will be a fix for the HTC messaging soon.

There are some very nice games like Texas HoldEm Poker, Asphalt 4, Guitar Hero 5, Sonic, Prison Tycoon, Pool Rebel, Flight Commander, Hawx, The Game of Life, Real Soccer 2010, Electopia, Need For Speed - these all have good graphics and very good gameplay on the HD2

Not sure about this, maybe someone else can say for sure

There's music recognition by Shazam, nice MSN messengers, not sure about the others but again someone should be able to say.

My friend just bought an iPhone and I've compared the two, we both like the HD2 more than the iPhone, he can't get it on his network so he's not very happy :-)

The future looks bright for the HD2 with WM7 coming out soon and lots of chefs on this forum looking to cook up some sick roms, so my unbiased opinion is go for the HD2 if you don't mind tweaking it to get the best experience. If you want a device that achieves its full potential straight out of the box then go for the iPhone.
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
Hello,

A long list of questions which I will answer as follows:

If you like the HD2 because you have had time to play with it AND it will satisfy your needs rather than you wanting "the best phone" because you get bragging rights with your mates then go for it provided:

- you are happy spending time tweaking it

- happy to search on here for solutions to problems and issues

- enjoy flashing roms and can live with the occasional lockups.

If you like things nice and easy,

- don't have the time to tweak your device

- consider your investment in iphone too good/too much to throw away

- want a device that does what it says on the tin time after time

then stick with the iphone.

Its as simple as that.

WB
[HD2 General] borgqueenx:
thanks! Tweaking is not a problem. Im a jailbreaker myself.

Is it certain that the HD2 will support windows mobile 7? Or is it just a rumour?

Ofcource the specs support the OS...but that wont say it will be released for this phone.

By the way i have another thing...when i was in store today ive tilted the phone up and down...And i saw alot white dots on the screen....maby the touchscreen? Anyways it was not really beautiful.

EDIT:

Happy to search, but i do want to find the solution. I dont like sms messages im sending that wont arrive for instance.

Flashing roms? Cool! I always want to make my phone better! But i hate useless bricks...I dont wanna **** up my phone.
[HD2 General] H2D2:
WM7 upgrade was confirmed by official HTC rep on twitter but removed soon after, make of that what you will.

The grid isnt a problem for me, I can barely see it, it doesnt show at all when the screen is on. Build quality of the phone is top notch, can't recommend it highly enough.
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
Read the hints and tips thread in this forum to give yourself a taste of what you are letting yourself in for. If after reading you are still happy then you don't need us to tell you what to do.

What you must not do after purchase though is to come on here wailing about what a bad buy it was and how you wish you had stayed with the iphone because all you will get is a serious kicking! :mad: :)

Good luck with your decision.

WB
[HD2 General] borgqueenx:
whoa so many tweaks....awesome! :D

I wont whine about a bad buy if it works fine. But i dont want a similar experience to the touch diamond i had some time ago. I can smack it on the concrete instantly.
[HD2 General] myself11:
I own a HD2 and I trully like it. One of the best buys I've made.

Nonetheless, I came from a HTC Hero, so I should warn you about some details.

It's harder to find the app you want, because there isn't a true "market", like on Android or Iphone OS. Apps don't have a stylish look (they remind me of old Windows 3.11). There's less variety of apps.

Of course there are exceptions and Roms are a different matter (the xda community is very active).

If you're ok with this, go grab one :)
[HD2 General] borgqueenx:
yeah i know it from the touch diamond. it is something im gonna miss, but not that much.

But the screen, skyfire, tweaking and touchflo are the main things that drag me to the side of windows mobile once again.

What im scared of is that damn HTC and Microsoft wont give our HD2's windows mobile 7. But if that is released end 2010, i will have a other phone anyways. But a date is not really known right?

Ive seen some 3d games running on the HD2, but i dont think there will come more that fast....
[HD2 General] borgqueenx:
Im also wondering what browser will be faster with tweaks applied(from sticky topic here)
[HD2 General] nucentury08:
NOOB-----Time Thats the real problem...lol

Sounds like to me you are a NOOB at Windows mobile I own over 6 HTC phones my main phone is the Touch pro2 Nrg 6.5.3 Leo landscape rom and when I had my Fuze it was Fast as ever with full flash web browsing unlike iphone safari see thing is most people have no ideal how are what to do to a windows phone so they just end up saying it cant do things my windows phones had been made into mini laptops as you can see below in some of my screen shots you might wanna ask your self are you ready for a windows phone not is a windows phone ready for you....?
[HD2 General] HYPERTUNE:
Personally I'm going to try android, probably the xperia x10.

One thing about the HD2 though, is xda devs.

I can only imagine what some of the cooks are going to achieve with such an awesome piece of hardware...............
[HD2 General] borgqueenx:
Still a hard decision to make...advantage is i wont lose money selling my second hand 3gs and buying a new leo.
[HD2 General] bumskee:
i think the biggest let down of iphone is the screen resolution.. seriously.. how that happen? I would seriously consider iphone if it weren't for the poor resolution. 320x480.. yeah right..

camera and all is really great with hd2.. with the pink blob fix and the extra fine quality patch, takes superb pictures. couldn't be happier.

FPSece!! PSX emul.. friggin awesome, tho there's a on screen button lag issue which should be sorted quick as the "paid" version has this sorted.

movies... supports most avi and stuff without encoding. tho I had issues playing mp4 I downloaded from youtube.. strange enough that didn't play smooth on TCPMP, and coreplayer didn't even want to try. But most of dvd rips (700mb) movies play great on hd2.

web browsing is much nicer with bigger screen especially on landscape, you don't need to zoom in to read.

HD2 has the BEST GPS. you don't even need a clear line of sight, works in doors and plenty of SAT nav to choose from.

Most of the apps that are popular and common on iphone would be available here on xda. it would do the similar task. so give xda a good search.

I had to reset my phone a lot, take the battery out and all.. but that's because I was on 1.43 stock and I had so much crap installed and removed.. played with too many things and it was like half broken. :P

recently flashed to Miri's ROM. it's so much smoother and I did have to reset ONCE so far.. it just got stuck on main home screen. But so far so good. might give it another flash to something new soon.

if you've played with HD2, you will notice you don't really deal with winmo 6.5 much.. it's mostly manilla. well at least with the most common tasks. regarding battery, I find it pretty crap to be honest. I wish it was double of what it is now.. it's always on back of my mind, I just use it without thinking too much about it but then the drain on the battery is pretty quick with web browsing and phone calls.. watching movies.. and i haven't even tried playing FF9 yet, wonder how many hours I will get with a full charge. But I think most phones do about similar hours.. well at least you can buy a spare and chuck it on if it runs out.
[HD2 General] borgqueenx:
Alright. Will search for replacement apps.

If i can find them, im on.

Hope i can ask you guys if i cant find some.
[HD2 General] borgqueenx:
I cant find the following apps i use alot on my iphone:

-augmented reality browser > to view near shops, cafe's, bar's, and stuff like that.

-Search name/adress and get phone number, adress and map application. (or does google maps support this?)

-Compass & gps car/location finder.

-Compass & gps star viewer.

-Notes application, with high encryption and password.

-Advanced photo and video editting app.(actually found alot but need the best there is)

-Music creation/beat maker.

Nonsense apps to show off:

seisometer for detecting small vibrations nearby.

beer drinking applications. there is one....but its real crappy.

Gun application.

Voice morphing.

Dice throwing.

Also, all quality games you can think of are welcome.

Especially 3d games.

blower to blow out candles.
[HD2 General] jonboyuk:
AFAIK Augmented reality is coming soon according to WMPowerUser. Google maps will search numbers, addresses etc. In fact most GPS software does this now too (Igo, CoPilot). Igo now supports with the help of some amazing guy on here compass direction combined with GPS support. It also works in Google maps. Not sure about password on notes, but you can encrypt the contents of your SD card anyway (basic wm function). Then, you could just password your device anyway. There are advanced photo editing apps, but when you say advanced, you can't mean full Photoshop type functionality with layer masking and blending etc? Use a PC?! There are apps, as with the iphone but I couldn't be bothered to do it on my phone!! Yes there is music creation/beat maker stuff out there.

No seisometer, quite a few beer ones now, yes to gun, yes to voice morphing and yes to dice. A lot of this stuff I've seen on Modaco but a bit of searching always finds what you need.

WM users have an app store that's better than market place. It's called the internet. Okay so you can't download them directly through your phone as easily, but my goodness there are millions of apps and they don't need to be signed off by Apple. It's a free market....woohoo!!

Oh and just to reiterate a point, fpsece 0.10 PSX emulator is amazing! I'm playing FFVII on it and it's just breathtaking!
[HD2 General] TrYde:
- There is a "where is my car" application on XDA

- PocketStars may be old but it's powerful and works with your GPS

- Meteor is a great music creation software

- Voice Twister is a cool voice morphing application

- For games, there's a thread about HD2 games in this forum :)

This is what I can think of for now, there could be more.
[HD2 General] borgqueenx:
thanks!

I have tried to look for some quality games, that support the 3d chip....

But the only games i found where:

-Electopia. (only a demo???)

-Experiment13.

-Xtrakt.

Are there more quality games like these? any thread to get me going?

I found alot of threads but they also had games like assasins creed...and when googling for screenshots it looks real crappy.
[HD2 General] freyberry:
NFS Undercover

Racing Academy

Spiderman

Prince of Persia

...

Or just install FPSECE and play those thousands of PSX games, they are better than anything you find in the Marketplace or AppStore or elsewhere...
[HD2 General] borgqueenx:
and screenshots?

i have the feeling im finding crappy games that are ment for java.

yes i already know FPSECE and have already 20 games ready to use.