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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] galuh:
frustrated with radio

hi all,

it's been very frustrated for me since been 2 weeks ago my HD2 512 has lost its signal,not surely,signal its there and shown up 3G but i can't make a call,browse with inet,also when i switched it to 2G it is always lost the signal.

I've been trying all kind radio which is available for my EU HD2 but the result still suck my brain out.I was tried to unboxing it and rising up the antena incase it is loose up from the backcase receiver but still comes with the same result.Anyone can suggest me what to do?

i had some 4 bad blocks,did it will going to effect the radio?please help me,i've been frustrated and going to crush my beloved hd2 to the wall!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Mister B:
Try another providers sim

Use the radio test feature if in your WM rom >

To access the Radio Fieldtest: Execute fieldtest.exe, stored under the \Windows directory Once its launched you can also pull it up from the dialer: *#*#364#*#*

Reflash WM6.5 ROM & Radio & if persists it could indeed be hardware related.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gunnroseclose:
Link broken, anyone could you please up a working link for radio Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14** :(:(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Mister B:
HTC HD2 Wiki has 3 working links for this >

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/HTC_HD2#Official_ROMs_.26_Radios

Worth book marking that Wiki ...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Henry_Lee:
I also using Miri ROM and till yesterday try to use 2.07.

Today I had one call about 5 min, BT is on and I have lost about 30% power for 8 hour. :(

I thing its not good result....

Return to 2.06. :cool:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] raf.tam1982:
Notizie Radio 2.07.51.05

ciao ragazzi

oggi ho fleshato la rom Axlor v2.6 con HSPL e tutto è andato ok!poi quando è toccato di flashare la radio (2.06.. e 2.07..)ho avuto un sacco di problemi!

credo che il tutto dipenda da i file che sono a disposizione su questo thread!

infatti confrontando 2 file scaricati da 2 forum differenti , quello preso da xda è di 8Mb mentre l'altro è di 20Mb!

qualche anima pia che ha i files buoni a dispoisizione potrebbe riupparli? o magari segnalare altri link su cui è possibile scaricarli?

cmq dopo circa un'ora di smanettamento sono riuscito a fleshare la radio 2.07.51.05_2 ed ho iniziato a monitorare il consumo di batteria:con wifi e Bt acceso consuma moltissimo infatti in 10 min è andata giù del 15%, poi con carica completa in 5 ore di stand-by (senza toccare il palamre) è calata del 6% (tengo a precisare che ho Tim e il segnale è sempre al massimo in H). che ne dite?io non riesco a fare confronti tra il prima e il dopo il flash!!quindi dobbiamo confrontarci tra di noi!voi che ne dite? è un buon risultato o devo flashare un'altra radio??(come la 2.06.51.07 che è anche indicata per la mia rom?)

aspetto con ansia qualche risposta!

ciao

English..o quasi! (i am sorry for my mistake!)

this morning i flashed AxLor v 2.6 Rom on my Leo by HSPL and all was ok!

after i tried to flash a new radio (2.06.. 2.07..)and I had a lot of problems!

I think that all depends from a files upload in the first post and it was 8 Mb!infact I download the same file from another forum and it was 20Mb big!after this i was able to flash!and the file was good! If anybady have a good mirror pleas post it!!

I flashed 2.07.51.05_2 Radio.

With Bt and Wifi on it dropped about 15% in about 10 Minutes!after this I charged to 100% and after 5Hours in stand-by without touch the pda it dropped 6%. (Signal was very good in H with Tim)

what do you think?is it a good result or not??have I to flash another Radio??I can't compare with myself before and after a flash!

thank's a lot. I am waiting for reply!

Raffaele
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] KB24@CL:
to quote Da-G

nk.exe is the "boot process" for Windows Mobile.. it brings up hardware to initial values and displays the radio/protocol/build version info on the intial boot screen.. nk.exe controls such low-level things as the size of the page pool, certificate checking, etc.

This is where the nk.exe patch comes into play.. it replaces the code that checks certificates with a "No Operation" - so the system now trusts all code installed, regardless of if it has been signed by a trusted provider or not - this is a good thing, as you control all code being installed on the device, rather than the OEM, and one would presume at the point you want such checks removed, you know better than the OEM

Without the nk.exe patch, when you replace rilphone.dll, the system checks it against it's internal certificate store, finds that it's not signed with a trusted certificate, and refuses to load it. This is why replacing rilphone.dll on unpatched ROM's results in no radio function.

Once you have a patched nk.exe you can replace any trusted file in the system with an unsigned file and not have to worry about the checks - note you no longer need sdkcerts.cab either as this is intended to load onto your device's root certificate store, and then manually sign the files you're replacing with the sdk certificates, then it would be loaded up as a trusted file.. however this doesn't work on drivers that are loaded early in the boot process, as there are 2 "states" of the certificate store - one early boot state where the drivers are loaded, where it's using a pre-defined set of root certificates (specifically sysroots.p7b in XIP, which contains 17 certificates from trusted root providers) - the 2nd "state" of the certificate store is farther on in the boot process, after drivers and services are loaded - this is when it would load in the sdk certificates and allow you to load manually-signed drivers. But again this is too late in the boot process to allow sdkcerts.cab to work for Drivers and Services - which is why the nk.exe patch is needed.

Note that any files/modules cooked into ROM are automagically treated as trusted, regardless of nk.exe patching status or if the files are actually signed with a trusted authority - it's assumed by Windows Mobile if the file is cooked into ROM, it must be trusted.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] twerki78:
I'd read that before you needed a patched nk.exe before... is it the same exe for all devices? is it possible to replace on the device or does it have to be cooked into the ROM? Any pointers if it doesn't have to be cooked into the ROM where to get a patched file from?

Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
I managed to install the nbh radio file that was in the "SIM update" hotfix via Goldcard as I havent put on HSPL yet. Would this Radio be flashable via Goldcard or would I have to use HSPL because of country or soemthing?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Mujja:
In the sticky "[REF]Leo Official ROMs" Click the first link to the 4Shared folder. You'll find a 1.43 Voda ROM in there.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] danusko:
After reading this lines i have to say, that i used always only new radio rom withou installing rilphone.dll. If i good undestud withou this file, i can not see any changes in radio.

In some threads i wrote, that after installing new radio 2.07.5 is cracking and poping during calls much better, but now after a few other calls i think, thats not much better. :(

Please anybody know, where can i download rilphone.dll to new radio?

thx
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] twerki78:
I think I'm right in saying that you were able to install the sim update because its a signed HTC update. But to install the radio ROM only nbh you will need hspl installed.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Rob277:
Can you install any Radio on any Rom?

I was planning on testing :

Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **1.66):

with

RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.48.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2_Ship

Rob
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] redbullman:
Radio flash problem

Hi guys I hope you can help.

I've already flashed the HSPL and installed Pandora 1.1. Evolution RC1 and now the final release of Evolution - all without issues.

However I now want to flash the latest radio. I've followed the corect procedure (remame the radio to .nbh and install with custom ruu etc). However when I sync with Windows Mobile Device Centre, it comes up stating error 238: Cannot open file.

Does anyone know what's going on. I've noticed searching on XDA and the internet others have had this issue, but I haven't read a solution/fix. The HSPL must be fine as I've flashed 3 custom roms.

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong????

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tossero:
Yes Rob , feel free to do it ! :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Rob277:
Cheers matie :)

Just done it and seems good :P

Are there any tools to use or beginners guides to creating your own Rom?

Im quite interested.

Rob.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tossero:
Eh ! This is way over my head! Sorry I cant help you ! ~
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Rob277:
Cooking your own Rom that is, fiddling with the clock styles etc then putting together the various combinations of Rom rev / Radio rev :)

EDIT:

Think i found it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=622230
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] raf.tam1982:
Hi Guys

this are a results of a battery monitoring:

In STAND-BY Mode

24/01/2010 13:30 = 100%

15:15 = 100%

16:00 = 99% Stand-by + Bt about 3 minutes

18:30 = 95%

20:30 = 93%

21:00 = 93%

22:00 = 92%

25/01/2010 12:00 = 82% Stand-by + Tel about 2 minutes

17:00 = 77%

18:10 = 76%

it's about 1% per Hour only in Stand by mode!!what do you think about? is it good??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] dortok:
which radio is that with?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4tune:
I'd say it's not to bad, but sub average.

Standby my phone spills 0,5% per hour overnight and 1% per hour during a day. That is with data connections open to any app that requires it. Weather updated every hour, pushmail on at peak hours.

Radio is 2.05.51.05_2. But don't be fooled, some users lose power fast at the upper regions of the scale, others do at the lower regions. It al depends on the device, radio and ROM itself.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] raf.tam1982:
my radio is 2.07... and ROM axlor v.2.6

but now I will try radio 2.06.51.07
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] the_scotsman:
Just flashed 2.07 radio...reception improved straight away...at home I was getting 1 bar on 3G/HSPDA with .06, but now get 2 bars :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BigE:
comparing apples with apples

Some GSM 101 for dummies..

The RX sensitivity will normally be translated by the phone as 'distance from tower'. As such the energy (battery drainage) spent on maintaining connection to a tower even in idle mode can vary depending on location, if the phone is connected at all times to the same tower, or is the phone registering to new towers (while walking or driving, the phone 'hop' to the best in 3 towers by looking at RX reading of signal) That 'hop' requiers the phone to transmit..

In few words- the same radio (2.07) can drain the battery under the same conditions completely different depending on the conditions i mentioned. Obviously there are far more variables in the equation.. Are you located in a tall building very high above the towers? Are you taking the phone 'on a ride' in an elevator where the signal sucks and the phone must use more TX power to stay connected to a tower, etc. I try to make it simple for everyone, without getting things to be too complicated to comprehend. Now this is only the physical aspect of RF communications. The flashed 'radio' is merely firmware code that makes some changes to when and at what steps power (TX) is changed, based on reception conditions. It is a trade off between battery life (the need to tranmit a low power as possible) and good connection (the more power, the better chance to have a good connection).

So there is more to be tested. Who is the provider, how far away towers are and how far towers are from each other? for some of us (I am in the USA) the results of 2.0.6 may be better than 2.0.7 (a guess, i did not try), for others just the opposite. It's a trial and compare session each needs to do. Most likely it will not have a meaningful difference. I tried 2.0.4 , 2.0.5 and currently on 2.0.6 and they were all good. I keep 2.0.6 because I am lazy, and when i will test 2.0.7 it may stay on my phone for the same reason. Without a history log telling me what the difference between 2.0.6 and 2.0.7 one can not judge..

Let's keep this thread updated, and keep testing. If people try it, it would be nice if they can compare old one to newer one based on the same conditions, and also to report who is the provider and where they are located.

As for myself: AT&T , California, Radio 2.0.6 works great. No comparison made to any other radio.

BigE
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Henry_Lee:
Not bad. This result typical for me with radio 2.06.

With 2.07 radio I have lost about 30% power for first 8 hour in standby mode.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
I have a question... I am a little confused about this rilphone.dll thing. I looked on the first page and there are versions for 1.43/1.61/2.01/2.02. I have a official HTC UK 1.48 ROM and I am using the 2.06.51.07 Radio via the "SIM update" that HTC released for the UK.

Firstly under what circumstances would I need to install the rilphone.dll?

Secondly if I do need it, do I pick the one based on my currently installed ROM version or based on the ROM that the current Radio I have was packaged with?

Finally if I do need it, how do I install it? (Point me at a resource if its already out there but I struggled to find it...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Bartkevin:
Yes i have been roaming these forums for quite a while now and i can't find any reason to install a rillphone.dll, so i would also like to know why to install such an DLL.

----different question----

I just flashed my first radio rom as i hoped to improve my battery life + better 3g and hsdpa reception. I live in the Netherlands and was hoping if there are any dutchmen with some advice about wich radio to use with vodafone here in the Netherlands.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mr.vandalay:
as fards already mentioned couple of pages back

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3354857&postcount=13
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] thetruand:
i dont understand when i have dowload the radio ( . rar on my desktop) and afther what can i do . i have put this files in my htc hd 2 put i cannot extract it ( in the htc) plzz need help!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chimpsinties:
There are loads of threads telling you how to update your Radio version.

You first need to extract the .rar file on your PC. Then usually run a CustomRRU and it will install it on your phone.

Try and read every post you can to get a better understanding of what you're doing before you screw something up (and p!ss too many people off :p :rolleyes: :D)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] raf.tam1982:
extract the file on your desktop and after you can choose if flash by microSd or by customRUU

read thist discussion http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609477

after read you are able to flash Radio and Rom!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Luigi.:
Leo_RADIO_15.29.50.07U_2.06.50.04 is this the rom with 576MB RAM?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bimori:
Has anyone been able to extract the radio from the tesltra ROM??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] LongZheng:
Yeah I have. It's 15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.11

Download http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3UXM5KC3
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] camo.b:
just flashed 207.51.05_2 have been stuck on edge all day couldnt figure out why (did restart and fiddled with phone band settings auto to manual no good)....ran sim fix from htc a few weeks ago had radio ver 206.51.07 then flashed duttys hg1.3 the other day (cant recall if it flashes the radio too....) that little edge symbol really pissed me off 2day so i searched and flashed new radio,,,,,after reboot took aprox 1 min to get off gsm and zero signal to 3g and full signal happy again now....every thing seems fine again now...stuck on edge all day...what is to blame vodafone???? towers??? ****ty weather or my hardware...... any ideas
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] nirojan2:
rom update 1.66

Hi,

After I update the rom to the latest 1.66, do i need to install the previous updates on the htc website such as the sim contacts and camera fix???? or is it all included in the new ROM??

Thanks in advance
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bimori:
Thanks mate
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] broncogr:
This is the Radio thread!!!

Apart from that all fixes are included in the new Rom...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] dingolino:
>Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **1.66):

Is this HTC singed 1.66 rom update somewhere available with the new radio?

Because all 1.66 roms I have seen so far have the older radio version 2.06

Best regards,

dingolino
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] broncogr:
Not yet...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
Question...

On the first page it says this:

Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **1.66)

Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07 **(from HTCWT 1.61)

Yet I have just downloaded WWE 1.66 ROM from HTC and its got Radio 2.06.51.07 not the 2.07 Radio... how come?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] danbst:
With regards to hk.exe folks....

Please offer your thoughts.

I'm wanting to try a few radios on stock roms because I haven't yet decided which chefs roms to experiment with.

As I understand it from reading the last 28 pages if I want to try a different rilphone.dll file on a stock rom I need to have hk.exe (on the phone????). If I do not then I will have an "Aeroplane" phone as the replacement file will not be regognized as signed.

I've searched the forum for hk.exe but it returns no results. A google search throws up lots on non specific threads relating to hk.exe.

Please can anyone explain how to obtain said file and which version I need? From what I think I understand the file can be device specific?

Sorry if I'm a search forum n00b. Perhaps I missed something. Please go easy on me

:D

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wangtang2k:
What RILPHONE.DLL do I need for the Telstra Radio?

I was wondering if the RADIO_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.11.rar needs a Rilphone.dll to function properly after installing a new ROM on the HD2. Thanks in advance.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] yeahbabyyeah:
I too was looking for this in case i would end up with a pnon-working phone.

I was on ROM 1.66 NOR and had big issues with reception, 3G/H and general caller issues. Was looking for a new radio rom and finally 2.07 was out. Installed it without new rilphone.dll and any hk.exe.

Will say this, it appears reception is better. Atleast sound during calls is improved. ROM 1.66 improved response in phone, radio 2.07 seems to have fixed reception issues.

Will give it a few days more and post any updates.

Update:

I have given this radio a few days, and i can now say i'm not satisfied. Sometimes my phone drops out and i have no reception even though i have 4 bars. Even if 3G works, five minutes later it decides not to work. Even if i havent moved.

Sick and tired, hasnt worked well since i got it. Thinking of returning it now.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
Can I install the 2.07.51.05 Radio into my official HTC UK WWE 1.66 ROM without needing the Rilphone.dll...

How come the HTC UK WWE 1.66 ROM didn't come with this Radio in the first place when the front page of this thread says thats where it comes from?

Edit: OK I have just looked at all the 1.66 ROM's listed in moooa official 1.66 rom thread and they all have 2.06.51.07 Radios, so why does the first page of this thread say 2.07.51.05 comes from 1.66 and is it OK to use as per the above?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
Strange.

Someone said to me that it is coming from an 1.66 ROM...

I'll fix the first post.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chargedRam:
Question

Hello People,

this might come as a very noob question to you guys.. but I need to know ....

I bought HTC HD2 with these specifications

3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100

Now I am in canada which does not support my any of the above 3G bands .

Now telstra just released its own HD2 with supporting 3G bands. Also some body was able to extract the radio

Now my question is this....

would i be able to access 3g services if I flash with this radio..

My current radio is

2.05.51.05_2

Let me know...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
So where'd the 2.07 Radio come from then lol?

And can it be installed on 1.66 without a rilphone.dll or do we have one thats suitable? :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] the_scotsman:
Nope...it won't work. The difference is in the hardware.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chargedRam:
Thank you very much for clearing it.. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jabbawalkee:
How do I go about flashing a new radio on a Mac?? I have HardSPL already
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Spoofy:
Hi there, my phone is a telstra leo and it is 850/2100 mhz will upgrading affect this?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] the_scotsman:
Nope, you're safe...upgrading the ROM and Radio will not affect this :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lude219:
Any AT&T users here getting horrible data speed with the 2.06 radio + 2.02 rom (576 ram enabled) combination? With the 2.07 rom, my EDGE would be around 400-500kbps, but now, i keep getting +100kbps on EDGE. sacrificing data speed for more RAM is killing me :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Caste23:
Hi all

2.06 radio drain a lot of battery for me :(

With the 2.07 radio is much better. There is a big difference, but no 576 Ram enabled :(

sacrificing battery for more RAM is killing me too :(

Caste23
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] madindehead:
Is it possible to flash these radios using goldcard?

I flashed the official radio using that, and it worked. Will this also work?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Mr_President:
Hmm I have an interesting question me thinks. I've had Kumar's 2.1 rom (1.61 based) installed for quite some time. During which I've had no CAB's installed at all. At first I had the radio 2.06 installed. Had no problems with it (a really good one actually), but decided to try the 2.07 to see if it might be even a tad better.

I've noticed a strange thing though. While I've had 2.07 installed I've started to get the "my location is off" error. I live in Sweden but sometimes I've gotten the weather on homescreen for Porto in Portugal :eek: :D. That's waaaay off. And always in the combination that I've picked up the phone, unlocked it (either normal unlock or tap/slide for SMS), and before the weather is updated on homescreen I've started to read/type an SMS. And when I'm done and return to homescreen, there it is, the weather for Porto :rolleyes:. It doesn't happen 100% of the time but very often.

Gonna update to Kumar's new 2.2 and the 2.06 radio. Never had any issues with that radio atleast!

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mean-machine:
Just copy the radio file on the sdcard in hd2, rename to LEOIMG.nbh and restart your phone and hold volume down button. You will get a question about loading the file. Choose Yes and voila...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ric69:
Ah ! good to see i'm not alone, this 2.06 radio is horrible for me too, yesterday at 22h00 i was at 75% and this morning at 13% :o (tested with Miri and Seatone's 576 RAM in 2 days)

With the same config and radio 2.07, I loose max 2/3% by night :rolleyes:

The question is : Is it the radio or the extented ram that do that ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
Double post
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Starfury:
Any ideas where it came from yet?

Also do you reckon we can use 2.07 Radio on 1.66 Rom without needing any rilphone.dll or that nk.exe thing