yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Seems many of you misunderstood me. :rolleyes:

I stated that I appreciated Wes's work, but I mentioned he seems to spend more time informing on the progress then the actual build itself, hence why I called it "vaporware". Simply a statement about the what the build appears like.

Be cool, Im not dissing anyone. Just making a general observation.......

btw. Last time I checked, bug reporting and diagnosing is a HUGE part of progressing the android platform. We would be back at Android 1.0 if it wasnt for bug testing :p

No more fighting after this, I simply made an observation, and I didnt intend everybody to get all butt hurt over it...so I am ending it here (hopefully)....
[G1 Android Development] timal:
butt hurt :) lol
[G1 Android Development] ytj87:
I utterly disagree. Only through a multipath approach can the best solution be found. In almost every engineering situation (software eng in this case), the best solution is unknown at the start.

Compound the problem with multiple devs on a single ROM and three things would happen:

1. Variance would disappear, with the specific problem affecting a ROM going unaddressed.

2. Pride in the ROM would disappear for lack of ownership.

3. Communication between devs would lead to a general slowdown in development.

This is an analogy for a society that seeks to eliminate perceived "waste" by combining into one.
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
Not Only that

Not Only that but the whole system would collapse as the team would be dissagreeing on certain terms such as wheather the rom would inlcude a set theme for example this then comes to part of the team disbanding and at the end it just falls apart also if the developer works alone we can have a selection of roms at our disposal which makes it better for us aswell. :D
[G1 Android Development] slinky1914:
This ROM is awesome. It is very responsive and fast. I'm using the 10 mb RAM HACK with BFS. This great. Are there any drawbacks to this build?
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
I agree, some teamwork between devs can only lead to good things, as we have seen (ex. USB tethering by Zinx, CChains's Contacts, AudioHack by Meltus, etc).

However, unless they had an IDEAL communication system, it could possibly slow down developemnt to a halt.

Keep up the seperate builds, but def keep in contact :D

Long live Android!
[G1 Android Development] texasaggie1:
Keep up the good work wes

This is the FIRST rom for the mytouch 3g that I have used that STAYS FAST. Cyanogen is AWESOME but his rom always lock up on my MT3G. This is a great rom wes. Sorry about the haters. They need to get a job and move out of their moms basement.
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
ATM, this rom is based of Cyanogen, with some changes for speed. Exact same drawbacks as Cyanogen, which are all pretty minor. Random bug here and there, but Wes fixes them pretty quick.

I believe he is redesigning the kernel for the next versions , so the next release will be more of an independent build, as opposed to a slight modification of Cyan.

We'll have to wait and see......
[G1 Android Development] prince.siraj:
Right. Sometimes working separately solves different problems, then what one person finds you can move around. although starting off as a team you're more likely to fight and split up, while in a singular but collaborative setting you'll be free to share information without having the boundaries of a team
[G1 Android Development] eklipz3:
i don't care what anyone says this is still one of the best and fastest rom's out here. WES keep it up.
[G1 Android Development] merps:
Just curious, have you looked @ to what codecs (both audio/video) are required to playback whatever you are requesting, are these codecs supported by eclair?

(http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html#core)

Have sourced outside code to run these codecs on Android 1.6r2?

Have you performed a logcat to see why your playback is failing? If you could perform some basic research first this would aid both yourself and other users who may be experiencing the same problem. It always helps to know the problem rather then debating the unknown.

peace....
[G1 Android Development] shagge68:
I wasn't "butt hurt" or fighting LOL. All I am saying is everyone should be constructive with any comment they post toward any developer. Something like that would have been more appropriate in a PM so it doesn't breed negativity in the thread.

As far as me pointing out your history on XDA: bug reporting is a HUGE part of what we do but to be able to speak on Android the way you have in your bug reporting shows you know enough that you could at least contribute on your level in some manor....maybe helping some people out in Q&A once in a while. We were all there at some point or another. If all the devs were selfish then we would never see any new ROMs. If they can put in weeks of work we can take a few minutes to answer some questions beyond "did you see any bugs" every once in a while.
[G1 Android Development] shagge68:
Some people have had some random bugs like the "Data Sync" under settings is missing but other than that bugs are slim to none. (Should be fixed in the next build. He seems to have found the problem causing it tonight)

I suggest you try the 10MB RAM HACK w/ CFS it seems to be faster and more stable for me and the group of 6 devices I help people maintain (Both MT3G and G1's). That is just a preference though. If BFS works great for you then stick to it.
[G1 Android Development] linuxluver:
Smart A2SD in Build 10.2?

I have an HTC Magic 32B running WG-Build 10.2.

I have a Class 6 8GB MicroSD formatted with 64MB swap, 512MB ext3, and the remainder in FAT32.

Build 10.2 isn't using the ext3 partition at all. It's completely empty when mounted on a Linux system.

My other HTC Magic 32B runs CM 4.2.11.1 and the 512MB partition there is full of files / apps I can see when mounted on my linux system.

Is A2SD used only if you have a G1?
[G1 Android Development] geppo1975:
loooong night!!

hey Wes ....how long is your night???:) i'm waiting your great rom:want speed and stability!!!!!!!Thanks for your work.
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Still a few bugs:

Finally got settings to give me an error for data sync to work off

WiFi tether isn't working - may just abandon that since usb tether works fine

plus gotta fix CC - think I just compiled it wrong
[G1 Android Development] inuyasha84:
Ugh - I really count on wifi tether. Is there something to "sacrifice" to still have wifi tether?
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
why not use usb tether?
[G1 Android Development] djluis48:
Wes, build Y is based on CM 4.2.11.1?
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
Wouldnt usb tether be faster?
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Kernel from scratch, Apps/Framework/Libs/most of bin functions from CM

Modules/init.d/audio/etc from mine
[G1 Android Development] inuyasha84:
Because it's not possibile. I use it to share my data plan with my brother's nokia 5800 while we're not at home.
[G1 Android Development] CmraLvr2:
Perhaps, but with wifi tether your phone becomes an access point for multiple connections and it is allways available without the need to carry and have a USB.
[G1 Android Development] Joe333x:
never been a fan of cc, i find a swap partition works better. I assume you will be using the spare parts option to turn on cc. Would it be possible to add an option in spare parts to turn on linux swap and set a swapiness?
[G1 Android Development] kilo313:
I like wifi better, i can use it with my ipod touch... when i am at work watching basketball on league pass....OOPS I hope my boss is not on here...LOL
[G1 Android Development] crypysmoker:
Download Sawpper from market. ignore failed errors and do it a couple times and it works perfect. also go through advanced settings and make sure its set to same size as your partition. I use 128mb and it kinda clogs it up and slows it down so I turned it off. But you may have better results
[G1 Android Development] bug666:
It seems so to me as well. At least, currently, both CC and linux-swap just makes the system slower instead of faster.

Maybe a newer CC revision will bring along improvements, I hope.
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Ok WiFi tether is working (but the app doesn't think it works lol, looking into it) (including version 1.70pre1 - hope it doesn't bug out)

CC is working, USB Tether is working

New kernel is working great, going to clean it up a bit more then get BFS going

ummm.... anything else I am missing? lots of differences on the kernel and etc

OOOOO fixed data sync

The only thing really brought from the latest CM is framework and apps used for his new changes, also updated a few libraries

Anything else I am missing or people want?
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
Any issues with wake up or life?
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
yup unneeded on magic
[G1 Android Development] hotvico:
I have the same issue on a g1 How do I know if Apps2sd work?
[G1 Android Development] Joe333x:
I am currently using Swapper I like it but what I liked about TheOfficial Rom was that you can just turn swap partition on and set the swappiness from Enoms expsetup and your good to go. With Swapper it needs to start every time you reboot to enable the swap partition again. While swapper does work very well it would be nice to be able to just go into spare parts turn it on set the swappiness and forget about it. I dont really understand why any one even uses CC its smaller, slower, and buggier than a swap partition.
[G1 Android Development] Joe333x:
if this current build is still based on cyan then you can go into "settings/sd card & phone storage" and look at "SD card secondary" you will see your ext partition and how much space is used. From what I understand with this build if you have a G1 app2sd is enabled if not then its not.

My only concern with the way wes uses this "smart apps2sd" is if it will still back up properly when using a utility like BART to back up your ext partition because the "smart apps2sd" keeps some folders on the phone it self so from what I understand if I used BART to back up an ext partition and then wipe my phone and wanted to restore the ext partition it would not restore everything. Thats one of the reasons I havent flashed his builds yet.
[G1 Android Development] h.nocturna:
You just need to add a small userinit.sh to your /system/sd/ because there is already a script that will autorun it on boot. Here's a simple one that I whipped up that will automatically set mmcblk0p3 to turn on with 40 swappiness at boot.

Just rename without the ".txt" extension and then push it to /system/sd/userinit.sh
[G1 Android Development] CmraLvr2:
Or just use the free market program user.conf creator to tweek and push as wanted/needed on the fly and reboot with it. Use the CM setting. Works great and is very simple.
[G1 Android Development] crypysmoker:
I have used Amen ras recovery to backup the nand+ext and recovered it perfectly everytime. so yes it works as it should.
[G1 Android Development] inuyasha84:
Don't know if it's just me but I noticed today that I can't listen to music while doing something else on 10.2. When I switch app (from stock music, acer media, or meridian at least) player selfcloses (or crashes - don't know).
[G1 Android Development] Joe333x:
you dont understand recovering a nand+ext is different from just restoring an ext partition to a new rom so you dont have to reinstall all your apps
[G1 Android Development] linuxluver:
Ok, thanks. I'll have my 512MB back then! :-)

Love the 10.2 ROM. loads of function, everything works and it's nice and fast.

For any future ROMs, I need:

Camera (must-have - the Camera-less Eclair's won't do),

Bluetooth (data, tethering, phone, stereo media),

Wifi (802.11b/g

3g (UMTS)/GPRS

Sound (in and out)

....oh...and the phone. (Dialer, voice dialer, Contacts) :-)
[G1 Android Development] illusive817:
nice call

one question has anyone ever figured out how to play music through the mono bluetooth earpiece?
[G1 Android Development] sstang2006:
is it tomorrow yet? :D
[G1 Android Development] carnegie0107:
I'm really, really anxious, too... but I try to tell myself, the longer it takes him to release, the more polished it will be. Just imagine how much raw, unadulterated essence of AWESOME will ooze from these next few ROMs.
[G1 Android Development] r00ktard:
Hey wes,

What's the status of this so far? 8)
[G1 Android Development] ultraviolet74:
Hi Wes,

take all the time you need, you're ROM is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you!!!!
[G1 Android Development] yokonunz:
Can you flash this over a exting cyanogen mantaining all settings , data, and apps?

And important can you revert back to cyanogens?

Thanks
[G1 Android Development] QDT:
With the previous versions - I had no problems (wiping dalvik-cache did the trick with bootloops). Hard to tell about the Y revision.

But, why won't you make nandroid backup, see for yourself and if you don't like it you can always return to the point where you started.
[G1 Android Development] nicdub:
I have had no probs flashing straight to this rom and back to cyans without a wipe ever but I always back up Nandroid + ext just incase :).
[G1 Android Development] yokonunz:
So, nandroid... flash then i'm ok :P thanks!!!!
[G1 Android Development] lightninbug:
I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT!!!!! Wes u make the best ROMS available!!! I cant wait for the update!! Keep up the good work!
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Hey everybody, have some beta testers testing it out

So far so good - hope to release tonight - just built the noram hack kernel

I may work on BFS tonight or tomorrow
[G1 Android Development] salamandar:
I'd have to say Cyan makes the best ROMS... but Wes gives them WINGS!!!!!!!!!!!! 8P
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Speed results so far thanks to Xarion:

I don't see more bugs aside from wrong permissions on dex files.

Everything works correctly and much faster than 10.2 build. Gain of speed

over 10.2 amount - I used app "Benchmark" to get the results:

- around 7% in GPU tests

- around 9% in CPU tests

- around 10% in MEM tests

- around 29% in File Systems tests
[G1 Android Development] h.nocturna:
Color me impressed. Any idea when this will be released so my F5 button can take a break?
[G1 Android Development] t1h5ta3:
" wesgarner

#Android fyi, my builds and kernels will be posted on http://github.com/wesgarner from now on - but builds will be precompiled "

so does that mean your no longer posting them here? or just hosting them there?
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
I put that there so people can see the work or changes that are going on while I work on new builds or play with it themselves

Also makes it easier for me to move around computer to computer and keep the updated copy
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
lol prob 830 9 CST - at work so not going to upload until all is tested and BFS is tested
[G1 Android Development] t1h5ta3:
so , another bfs + ram hack going to be available?:cool:
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
So final ver will be out midnight~ish or tommorw?
[G1 Android Development] h.nocturna:
Thanks. Alright F5, you can take a 3hr break... but then it's back to work!
[G1 Android Development] lightninbug:
are we going to have to do a wipe of any kind coming from 10.2 to build Y?
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
Maybe since he made his own kernel.
[G1 Android Development] paoloc67:
many thanks good job
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Can't wait!
[G1 Android Development] harrychern:
Push Gmail

Is push Gmail going to work in this build?
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
Build y

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[G1 Android Development] BrutalHoe:
yeah read the email again bud
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
I thought that becuase on the website it has commented only final already compiled here its not secret?

ps: Sry Wesgarner if it was meant to be secret
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
lol no no go ahead, no longer secret
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
yup it's fixed
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
Sry

Sry wes my bad :(

Anyway works good next time i wont say anything ill just keep silent.
[G1 Android Development] BrutalHoe:
lol just nvm me then
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
geez don't be mean lol, it's public now since it's on git!

being too brutal!
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
you're good!
[G1 Android Development] BrutalHoe:
i know right.... im sowwie i lost that one filter
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
BFS with Ram Hack

I don't think you need BFS with Ram Hack you'll burn out the G1 lol
[G1 Android Development] merps:
Take a deep breath BrutalHoe, it's all going to be ok - considering i'm pulling/compiling the same thing from the 'public' git - no so much of a secret really...

peace..
[G1 Android Development] BrutalHoe:
hey gimme a break im brutal u know lol i just took wes's email to serious so get out of my grill yo lol
[G1 Android Development] ezzieyguywuf:
Flashed it, and it's fast as hell. Wow. I haven't read this whole thread cuz it's so fricking long (why does that happen so much here on xda? I feel like these builds should have a convo thread and a important stuff thread, so that someone like me doesn't have to wade through all this conversating just to get info on the build). But, like I said, I like it. Good job!
[G1 Android Development] BrutalHoe:
i just noticed in the dialer the "add" button or a plus has a different color blob around it.
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
Dialer

Lol yeah see what you mean looks like it has been painted on no offence. :p

Wes you got a Updater yet?
[G1 Android Development] BrutalHoe:
lmao yeah .
[G1 Android Development] QDT:
Yuppi!

Made my own Y signed package from git.

Made my own Darkstar theming on that build.

Now need to chose - play with the ROM a little or go to sleep...

There is no wifi driver :|
[G1 Android Development] djn541:
I flashed right over 10.2 and no problems at all. This thing is FAST!!! wifi tether working flawlessly. No fc's as of yet. Very, very nice Wes!
[G1 Android Development] BrutalHoe:
iw as able to uninstall the amazon mp3 from atrackdog lol how is that possible lol
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
I am having the same problem Unable to start wifi
[G1 Android Development] djn541:
The "add button" does nothing for me...anyone else?
[G1 Android Development] xillius200:
try typing some number in then pressing add

I did it a second ago wasnt working just pressing it worked out it was a button for adding numbers lol
[G1 Android Development] BrutalHoe:
strange just connected to my router no problem turn it on n off n maybe try a restart.
[G1 Android Development] djn541:
I know that when i opened the market in this build, there was an update for atrackdog. Maybe something in the new version???
[G1 Android Development] merps:
you are taking life seriously?!!?!? are you mad, deranged or just plain Christian?

how often do you remove your grill to polish it - does the chrome on your grill match the spinners on your ride?

peace.. ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] x3lillebronjames21:
Hey everyone one I just Got a t-mobile Touch PRo 2 its expensive and i am looking for a tracking program or app that i can download to my mobile so if anyone steals it i can locate them and get it back.. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] enahsak:
4 programs

1 - Remote tracker

2 - Phone Creep

3 - smart phone tracker

4 - smart protect
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] x3lillebronjames21:
Do u have the link to get anyone of these programs?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] First-test:
1.ultimate theft alert

2.sprite terminator

3.guard mobile (maspware)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] SecretAgentMan:
Try looking HERE .
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] julez456:
It never ceases to amaze me the type of dickheads that be on xda! If you aint gonna help dude out by posting legitimate links, then don't post anything at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] djinfamousflo:
well, i never ceases to amaze me how people these days just EXPECT someone to bow down and do everything for them.

if you know what youre looking for find it and make it work. this isnt the 8th grade anymore, nobody's going to hold your hand and do it for you.

these guys gave him plenty of suggestions and program names.

heres another good one, its available on the marketplace for FREE

Microsoft My Phone.

this one is especially good because you back everything up online.

if you find your phone or get a new one you just download everything back onto it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] julez456:
Ain't nobody asking any1 to bow down. If you know the answer to his question and wanna help him out then post the links he's asking for. If not then don't reply at all. For every 1 person on xda that actually wants to help you got 10-15 dumb ****s that be posting stupid ass comments.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cjm1979:
F@!king hilarious!!:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Doinshots:
You forgot about the 4-5 people that then ***** about people posting stupid ass comments.

I'll let someone else handle the total abuse of the English language.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dik23:
Respect !

Too many 'tards on this forum clogging the pages.

I mean, who'd be so green to think they're getting their phone back after it's stolen? The police aren't interested in your car when it gets taken, even if it is an "expensive one". And your phone costs less than a single tyre for that car.

And if you're thinking of getting it back yourself then you'll have to be pretty 'ard. In fact so 'ard that no one would steal it in the first place lol

Anyway, I don't know about your country's (I have my suspicions) TMobile but in my land when you report a phone stolen ALL of the networks block it. So anyone who knows their s**t will take it to another country to sell.

So how much do you want to spend on airplane tickets ?

Why not just get insurance, it's worked for car owners before. Or you could try not worrying about it, maybe you'll lead a happier life lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] MrBigKid:
XDA is emulating PPCGeeks more and more each day.

MBK
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] plfinch:
So which default to Tower location if no GPS?

1 - Remote tracker

2 - Phone Creep

3 - smart phone tracker

4 - smart protect

5 - ultimate theft alert

6 - sprite terminator

7 - guard mobile (maspware)

Which of these will default to tower or triangulated location if no GPS fix available? I use Terminator but it requires GPS lock. Looking for alternative to AT&T FamilyMap that will try to use GPS but still provide a position circle if GPS cannot lock. Need to track Tilt 2, Fuze, and Moto Tundra (non WM). Don't even mind payng for an app (one-time) versus $15/month for FamilyMap.

Peter
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] da9th_one:
i like getting on websites and talking sh!t to people for fun...when i 1st came to this site, i didnt do it b/c everyone was extremely helpful and courteous...alas, now it seem the assholes have run amuck...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] henkreyn:
Smartphonetracker
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Illium:
Hi all,

I recently upgraded to the latest ROM that's available on the Singapore WEB site (I purchased my Magic there so can only download official ROMs from the Singapore WEB site) ROM Version: 3.03.707.5.

The HTC Sense is great & has made the Magic smoother & in some cases faster, this is what the MAgic shouldhave shipped with from new!

Unfortunately HTC seemed to have messed with the way contacts are managed. Previously if you typed in the first 3 letters of a persons name (in the phone screen) it would find all the people with those 3 letters in their

names

. Any matches were listed by the persons

name

NOT in any way tied to the company that's listed in the contacts details.

Now it seems to have changed, any matches are listed in order of the company name! Now it can take for ever to scroll through all my contacts by company until I find the name of the person who matches!

Is there any way to change this on the PDA? Note my contacts are synchronised with exchange server, there's approximately 1000 entries!