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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] the-nj:
hey i had the same problem....

i read thousand of threads but nobody knows exactly why it is

for me i got a sulution that i formated the sd card in ext2 and then again in fat 32 and then i loaded all files to it again...and make sure not to copy the .thumbnails folder back to sd card after reformatting...

this could solve the problem...otherwise try another sd card...

nick
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
No clue?

2: I have bad wifi, i try do download opera from app store and the download bar just scrolls till infinity.

Websurfing does only work on google not on other pages. Some times I get network error (timeout)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] alheira68:
Huum ok... but if you can see the logs he can't find the files of the system... because of this i thinked isn't the problem of the time... when he said "system can't reach tty. job control turned off" and then go to new line and put a # (so it is shell) i tried the command ls and i can navigate in the folders... i leave it some time, and after some seconds start a wallpaper, with Red lights, green lights , blue lights like a rays come from all sides of the creen and all joint in the center with white color...

But i will try give to him, more time :D, and see if he need more time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jb_0776:
Small tip for anyone else out there as stupid as me -

don't install the build from an SD card with 7GB of music on it!

I had no end of trouble and had almost given up on getting it to install cleanly. I could get it installed, skipped the setup, and left it for 5-10-15-20 min before turning off and restarting. Only to be confronted with a ton of FCs. It only just clicked that the first one, the media app, could have something to do with all that music. I'm guessing it's trying to scan it all when I shutdown and it gets upset with me.

So I installed from a clean SD card, and surprise, surprise, no FCs and a superb build.

Thanks for all the hard work that's gone into it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] alheira68:
Ya, I will try this... i just plug one time the USB cable and in the shell start appear the state of the connection.

Everytime to enter in the menu...i need to hold the middle d-pad... with the volume control (holding the Jog Wheel) i can't enter in the menu...

I think i tried the second try, going directly to the Quit submenu...

many thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] alheira68:
Ok... i leave it... after all errors and after the wallpaper will all rays...the systems booted... first start with errors and low battery status, but then voilá...

But every boot ... he make the same... stucked... then disco rays =D then... voilá...android boots... it is normal boot??

Many thanks and good job by the way ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jaffarbp:
well I get the discobars too but I highly suspect that I got the nbh wrong.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] alheira68:
EHEH

About DiscoBars ( or rays like "X" ) i read in other post...it is normal... why you got wrong ngh??

( i dont know if i choosed the best ngh for my kaiser...lucky or not... i took the panel 2 428... it works.. iam trying to improve the boot... just this... and btw i dont have sound in the cals... so iam chaging the radio for the last one... to see if it can improve and resolve the issues...

btw which parameters we need to consider to choose the correct .nbh??

Best regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jaffarbp:
as far as I read to get your pannel right you would have to dissasemble your phone and check it on the back. To be honest those discobars don't disturb me at all, since everything else is working perfectely (well xcept for BT and camera) and my battery life on full charge is atm 30h and still alive :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Hey guys those "Disco Bars/Colored X rays" is standard boot animation taken from Google Nexus One Phone... Do not have to disturb at all... it is there by design to make it bit more Coooool :D:D:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Well I'd say, before disassembling the phone just try to boot by HaRET with testing panel settings in your default.txt... Change it few times from 1/4 and you should see which one is good for you ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cesierra:
sipdroid

is anybody using Sipdroid successfuly?

for me, it connects, but when it receives a call it crashes.

I am using the latest version of polymod and latest sipdroid from the store.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jaffarbp:
when talking about discobars I am not talking about animated x, I was talking about screen anomalies :D like each few pixels have random color :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dukeofdream:
hello i have a small problem...i am trying to install android with haret...i am a bit confused...so i downloaded the haretinstall.zip i unpacked the files to the root of my SD i renamed the default_kaiser.txt to default.txt...then i downloaded Eclair polymod 2.1g Light-Themed for SD install or NAND and i copied the file andoidinstall.tgz also to the root of my SD...then when i push "install system" and i choose to wipe and clear data,after a while it gives me this "Unable to open persistant property directory /data/property error: 2" j101399j said to copy the file data.img provided to his tutorial to the root of SD but this time DO NOT WIPE DATA...how can i not WIPE DATA?if i do not the installation does not begin...my SD has a single partition of FAT32 and it is 1GB with absolutelly no other data than the needed ones...help plz!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Terrandroid:
I still cant get this to work, i have an KAIS130 model.

Do i have have to get an KAIS???-PANEL??.Nbh file first to

flash To NaNd ? Which nbh File do i need for my model.

Please help , i really want it to work.

Thanks people.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
Instead of putting everything to the root folder you have to create a "andboot" folder and put everything in there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Terrandroid:
I have the same problem as you quoted in previous post,

And i also created an "andboot folder with al the files in

It. But doesn't work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djkoa:
Polyman

Questions:

- Is it possible to put the new zimage with bt and an androidupdate.tar with the proper BT setting as a patch? ;)

- Was someone able to compile the camera from that thread? With those too...i promiss i wont go WM anymore. Promiss :D

Hugs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Well... and are you sure, you've choosen the right panel type?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ReggieA86:
Well the issue im seeing is the actual street view is not an option in layers. I've tried going to the market and installing the update but the update is always unsuccessful in downloading. Also, it seems im unable to download any apps. Could it possibly something in the default.txt file????? Any help is appreciated!!

"Common Sense Isn't Common Anymore"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
If you're using the build shown here, you should definitely have street view. Are you sure it's available where you're looking? Because street view isn't available everywhere in the world, and I don't know where you are. If you're not in the U.S., make sure you can access street view on the PC version. If you can't, then there's no street view for that area.

As far as updating - yeah, that doesn't work for this build, and I don't know when it will.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ReggieA86:
Thanks, im in Virginia and upon checking from my pc I was able to determine that currently its not available. My other issue is im unable to download any app from the market successfully and ideas as to why??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
You can't download new ones, or you can't update? Because I don't think updating works for any apps, but I haven't had any problem downloading and installing new ones.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ReggieA86:
nevamind rebooted my phone again and now my apps are updating and installing fine(except google maps of course).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
Does it hang and say Downloading ...?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Completely not related to this image but for reference:

if your apps are "Starting Download" indefinately you should check that the Gtalk service is running. For me, I logged into my account and downloads instantly worked again. Just throwing it out there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ReggieA86:
no doesnt hang in the download stage. Just gives me error "package file was not signed correctly" when it tries to install. Im just go with the adb way and extract the apk.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
i think by the time a fully stable and functional build is made most of us will have either converted to native google devices or least invested enough to switch soon,just my 2 cents
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] LOTG:
I think most people are in it for the fun. I don't think the people running android on there kaiser now are doing it to so they have an android phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gochem:
Finally got it working!!!

I created a zip containing all files you need. Just extract it to your SD Card and run haret.exe. If you want data to work you might need to edit startup.txt for ppp settings.

http://www.mediafire.com/?mjh2yktzn3j

http://rapidshare.com/files/324817608/HTC_Kasier_Android_Eclair_2.0.1.zip.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AciDCooL:
When most of the problems are fixed, like the massive power consumption, and the ability to use bluetooth, camera, gps normally.

Then im glad to have this as an full replacement for winmo.

But atm I think ur right most people are in for the fun of it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gochem:
Anyone got adb working?

When I list devices it keeps returning ? as serial
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
If you want a stable Android, stick with Donut until Eclair is developed further-- it's still new.

gochem, what's your OS?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Cryos:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5182594#post5182594

Like the one i posted on P16 ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gochem:
Didn't see you post :( wish I saw it earlier it would have saved me the trouble
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I would like to see the camera working on this build but its not a big issue for me. I did not like the way donut handles data connection over the ION builds just seemed to take a long time to connect. the data connection in donut was iffy at best. Eclair seems to handle data connections well, I like the browser and the phone calls work well. So I get out of eclair a very usable OS for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] atommota:
When I run 'adb devices' (under Ubuntu in a VirtualBox VM) I also only get ???'s However if you issue 'adb shell' or 'adb logcat' it will successfully connect. I suspect it has something to do with my udev rules being incorrect but it works so I've stopped trying to fix the ???'s :D

Try connecting and see if it works for you as well...even though it cant pull down the full device info you may be able to use the remaining adb functionality.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] boufa:
There have been a few pieces of software that have been released for the android that are not availibe for the windows mobile platform. That has given me the reason to look into this method of running android. I have options. I can run anything (mostly) that the android can run, and still have my windows mobile phone. If they came up with a virtual machine type iphone, I would install that too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I've run Donut exclusively for a long time and it's great for me but once the sleep issues are fixed it should be ready to use. Mssmision suggested diff'ing Cyanogen's kernel against ours which I'm going to do soon and maybe we can find out what he did right.

Jamezelle said he had "???" showing up as well using v3 of the SDK. I've always stuck with v1 and never had an issue. I uploaded it for him and it worked right away too. I don't even need udev rules. Here's a link to my tools folder from it (Linux version).

http://www.mediafire.com/file/yjzwkondzyj/SDKTools_R1.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dukeofdream:
yeah i tried that too...doesn't help :( isn't any pack wich you just drag n drop all the files to the SD?sorry but i'm trying to understand a tutorial all day long and i cannot seem to find any "full" tutorial...all the tutorials i found takes you from one part to another without telling you what to do between the two parts :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Get a Kaismg.nbh from here : http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/2010-02-20/kaisereclair/

I suggest KAISIMG-PANEL2-320.nbh, as this works fine with my Kais130, it may not be the correct panel type, but panel2 seems to be the most common type in 130's so far.

The 320 is the screen resolution, the higher the number the smaller the everything appears, 320 is a good safe starting point.

Remember to rename the KAISIMG-PANEL2-320.nbh to KAISimg.nbh.

For nand install you need one folder on the SD card, andboot.

Inside andboot there should be one file, androidinstall.tgz

On the root of SD there should be one file, KAISimg.nbh

This is all you need to have on the SD for nand install.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seancojr:
I'm not sure I can absolutely agree with that. Which part of j101399j's polymod Eclair install guide did you get lost with?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dukeofdream:
i mentioned that i used j101399j's tutorial...and it has holes...if you check the previous page you will find my post...but i didn't used only this tutorial ...i used many...i have pretty much the same questions...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bellor:
Well... I really don't want to be mean, but if j101399j's polymod Eclair install guide is too hard to follow for someone, than maybe those people shouldn't be fooling around with their Kaisers. It's easy enough to brick this phone without trying such advanced hacks. I for one had no idea how Android flashing is done prior to doing it with this version (a few days ago), but I managed quite well with j101399j's guide. But that's just me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seancojr:
HardSPL 3.34 should be fine, it's what I'm using. After partitioning and formatting your card, try installing without copying any additional files (documents, photos, music) to the card - just the needed androidinstall package.

I'm seeing many times that others are frustrated with their device not booting past the splash screen and well, I've almost come to figure it has everything to do with either a.) how the card was setup, b.) how much additional data is on the card, or c.) the class (speed) of the card altogether. After letting the system boot up a "second" time (meaning reboot once after initial install) then you can power down your phone and copy over any media you like.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dukeofdream:
well i have flashed my phone over 50 times,i have been fooling around with Ubuntu quite long and i believe this gives me the skill to install android on my phone...i just do not understand some parts...i did exactly what the tutorial said...i got an error, i did what the tutorial said to do about that error but then it tells you "THIS TIME DO NOT WIPE DATA"how am i supose to not wipe data?when i press install system it says WARNING THIS WILL WIPE ALL DATA...if i press no nothing happens...so i'm stuck...now what?

edit: i forgot to mention that i'm not trying to flash android to my TytTn II i'm just trying the haret...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
try hitting the quit :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dukeofdream:
didn't try that...i will thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bellor:
From what I gather... I may be wrong... but you should click yes to wipe the system, but click no to clear data. I had the same error when I first tried Haret and the guide helped me work it out. It would be normal that the system does nothing if you don't wipe the system... it means you don't want to install the update.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dukeofdream:
i tried that too...i even tried hitting quit from the beggining without even pressing install system like lggyxx's suggested but didn't work either...i am very frustrated...but i never had any luck with linux without getting frustrated...linux just has to make you suffer :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dukeofdream:
so after i did the same things 5-6 times in a row,the last time i did it,it gave me the same error but after some time it finnaly booted android...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Some call it suffering, some call it learning ;)

With time it starts to become enjoyable, and after a while you'll wonder what all the fuss was about.

But the lessons learned are now set in place, and every install or upgrade will be easier than the last, sometimes I look at my kaiser and remember how I was when trying to get android to run at first, and how easy the answers were when I didn't have to learn them anymore.

Oh and before I forget, I only started messing about with android december last year, before we had nand, or wifi, or gps, when batteries which lasted for maybe an hour, ( my battery cover is actually warped slightly from the heat of one 'fix' for wifi ).

(kids these days, don't know what it was like back in my day... blah blah blah.... :D )

(oh and I've also been using linux off and on since about 1995, with slackware 1.2, and I still suffer some days, lol, try hand editing an xorg.conf file to get 1024x768 for an nvidia fx5200 sometime, that's suffering....)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dukeofdream:
that's for sure ;) it took me like a month to get ubuntu to work with my 2133 mini-notebook but in the end it surely deserved it ;)...so now that i have android on my phone i have to start learning how to use it...haha...i guess that installing them was the easy part hehe :p!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Thermopyle:
Yeah, I'm using a completely blank card that only has KAISIMG.nbh in root and androidinstall.tgz in /andboot.

I've tried multiple configurations of partitions. Always a FAT32 partition at the beginning and then tried several different sizes of EXT2 partitions at the end.

I've tried a Class4 and a Class6 card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Have you tried the simplest configuration of all, Sd card formatted to fat32, no partitions, androidinstall.tgz in andboot, kaisimg.nbh in root?

Unless your running Haret you don't really need any ext2 partitions anyway.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Thermopyle:
Good idea, and is what I'm currently trying since typing my previous post reminded me that I hadn't tried such a configuration...

Will post back.

edit: Ok, that didn't work either.

Just want to confirm this:

1. Press power, camera, soft reset until white screen comes up

2. Press power to apply update

3. When it says update complete, remove battery for several minutes.

4. Insert battery, power phone on

5. How long should the splash screen stay up before you get the linux logo and scrolling boot text?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MrPaveL:
Stig introduction FTW!! I love that ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
1 yes

2 yes

3 yes

4 yes

5 varies, should be about 1-2 minutes at the most, however I have had some issues in the past with SD cards not wanting to let me install, my 4gb class 6 card will not let me install ever, but my class 2 2gb card works fine, I also had some issues with delayed writes messing up my sd card, so now always use safe removal to eject my SD card from my card reader.

I also have one kais130 that no matter what I tried just didn't want to let me install android in nand, turned out I had a couple of reversed blocks in nand which does not appear to affect winmo, but i'm not sure about android, ( any info on completely and safely reformatting nand gratefully received, i'm not about to try task2a ;) ).

@MrPavel Some just call him 'The Zen Scotsman' ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seancojr:
Yea I saw that, but not until after I hit submit. *doh* I'm glad to hear that it finally booted for you - and it does take dreadfully long sometimes. Is it running okay now?

From the steps you provided, it looks like you're reflashing the .nbh. Once you have flashed that there's no need to flash again unless you're upgrading to a newer kernel.

The issue you mentioned in #5 many users are experiencing (myself included before). I can't confirm if this makes any difference but what I've tried at times is to fully press and hold the track ball (center pad) immediately after power on. Sometimes it randomly worked and the boot text came up shortly after. This could just be my random luck however as it doesn't always work. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
When will the bad wifi performance in snail speed and random network errors be fixed? Hopefully soon
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Since november last year we've had a huge amount of amazing progress, from barely booting android to full useable builds, yes there are still some issues, but slowly and surely these are being fixed, and new functionality is being added at an incredible rate.

Don't look at how far we have to go, look at how far we've come.

(Some people see the glass as half empty, some see it as half full, I think the glass is twice as big as it needs to be).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
ok. the wifi sometimes works fine, but only for about 5-10 seconds and the it takes 1-2minutes till the next amount of data comes through the air. sometimes a network error pop up. And then suddenly the wifi works normal for about 5-10 seconds again.

That is my experience.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ruz:
Some people say "mmmmm beer" :)

FWIW, I've been a) really impressed so far, and b) really grateful to those people who have clearly invested so much personal time and energy on this.

I've also not noticed any issues with WiFi on my Kaiser130, and I will do a few tests at some point when I have a chance.

Ruz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Actually I also have the same issues with wifi, I thought I had it fixed, but apparently not, however, I don't rely heavily on wifi, so I prefer to wait for improvements to come as part of the natural evolution of what is still a development system, I expect that things will break as we push the envelope further, and once they are broken, I'm also confident they will be fixed.

Rest assured, Bluetooth will be fixed, camera and voice too, wifi is buggy, and will also be addressed, at the risk of getting all philosophical, ( again), the young have time, the old have patience ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] acompres:
isn't there anyway to make the NBH 480 and 428 resolution not look squashed/overstreched? also the font being so soft hurts my eyes, isn't there any workaround?