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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] attn1:
I finished in the wee hours this morning, same issue with wifi, but my 3g works somewhat.

I am looking at this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5802785&postcount=2140

edit: this works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] monster4fun:
thanks, much appreciated, but now struggling with tiwlan.ini file permissions. I'm trying to edit the file with vi, but of course it's in readly only. Tried with chmod, nothing.

Is it possible to elvate as super user trought command line ? :-(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
Have you tried su?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Actually su, rwsytem, and rosytem commands, su gets you superuser privileges and rwsystem makes the system read/write instead of it's usual readonly state, remember to return the system to it's normal state using rosystem.

Oh and unless poly removed it, we should still have nano for file system editing, for those who don't see the need for vi's unfriendlyness, lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] golfnz34me:
Ahh, but therein lies the rub... I don't want to permanently install Android until I can reasonably trust it. Sort of a catch-22 here.

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] attn1:
I like vi, and I'd use it if I knew how to map ESC and CTRL keys.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xPreSiDenT:
What works for me: dpad C takes me back to the first character, dpad + fn + c gets me to the : for commands. I have no idea why, but dpad C has to be done first to get to the command line thing... sorry don't know the proper terminologies, I hardly know anything about Linux.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] attn1:
Thanks! Dpad C gets me the escape I was looking for on my Tilt. Then it's function : and I am good to go.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rayzine:
Hello,

I have long long time have not using Android on my Tytn ii.

Previously I am running Android 1.6 on my SD card via Haret.exe. The WM is still on my phone.

Is there still any method to run Android 2.1 without wipe out my WM?

Is the new SD install and NAND method both will wipe out my WM? If so, how can I flash my phone back to my original WM?

Pls advise. THANKS!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Only running on Nand will wipe WM, SD installs still use Haret and do not wipe WM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rayzine:
Then I go for SD install route. THX for make thing clear and lightspeed response!!!

However I still have problem when try to install via SD.

According to the instruction, I have follow the link to download latest basefiles (haretinstall.zip) from SourceForge. However, the given link direct me to a file called mssmisoneclair7.rar. Inside the rar is a androidinstall.tar file and there is no such default.txt and zimage-eclair files inside.

Also base on another guide (see link below), it said Copy andboot folder from the zip file to your phone’s sdcard. However the said andboot folder cannot be found inside the tar file. May be I get the wrong file! Someone can provide the link to direct me to the basefiles(haretinstall.zip) file? THX.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5602064&postcount=1195
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] remora9595:
So I just updated to the latest DZO image the other day (4-29) and I noticed the bt-audio doesn't want to pair anymore. Also holding the camera button (on the vogue) brings up an app launcher instead of returning to the home screen. I'm pretty sure theres something I'm not seeing but seems like its kinda hard to get out of apps like the browser where the back button has a function in the app. Thoughts?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxaznxx27:
so after using it for a good...3 months or more it finally went nutts and i had to reinstall, but nonetheless, its way better than WM! but does anyone know how to turn down the volume? i think im go deaf soon.haha
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
I think it works if you have one of the later kernels. On erlier kernels the incall volume had no effect unless I'm mistaken.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vincio3:
quote:

android by polyrhythmic:

Eclair 2.1 for Kaiser/Vogue/Polaris -- polymod 2.1 gamma [Based on OpenEclair 1.2.2 (XDA thread)]

endquote.

Hi,

how can try the new "OpenEclair - v1.3.0.1 - 04/02/2010" from XDA thread in this polymod 2.1g?

I downloaded the files, but I don't know how use them!

I think this polymod is great, but still too many bugs. Maybe this new version could be better...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Volume controls are the two 'softkeys' ( the two - keys beside the green and red phone keys), I often use my handsfree for music, and have to turn phone volume almost off to avoid deafness, lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxaznxx27:
haha i know. but for whatever reason it has no effect? lol. maybe the other guys right, its the kernal? i try updating and see what happens. lol

maybe i should jump on incubus's supereclair? supposedly its super fast and works on the kaiser as well? any input? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dannyliemburg:
Can't read sim card anymore

For some reason my phone stopped reading the sim card.

I'm having this issue since yesterday morning and tried reinstalling and reflashing the .nbh, but it seems nothing is working.

Does anyone has a clue on how to fix this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Reflash with WinMo or try the SIM card in another phone. Maybe it's just the SIM card that is broken?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
It's fast, at least when installed in NAND. I'm currently done an SD-card partition install as I need WinMo for while to try to figure out some GPS settings. Not surprisingly it runs slower on the SD-card. It ran really nice in NAND. It still has a quirk or two that needs fixing but so does the polymod release in it's current state.

It won't make a difference for in-call volume though. The kernel need to support it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
Incubus's build is in many ways much better than the old polymod which was a nice start for us all.

Loading gmail, email goes much faster in the Incubus build using ext2, it was too slow with polymod 2.1d(latest). There's even apps2SD support.

I sometimes still have problems mounting the microsd card, but with RLS 2 I hadn't this problem at all (I'm not on NAND).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Maxxd01:
Any way to make this work on Niki100 ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mangrajalkin:
Still can't get GPS, sound or outgoing anything to work... Incoming voice/text will work, just not outgoing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] youngsien:
I've try this on my niki100 but there seems a few problems,the worst is device can't wake up from sleep state, so you can't do anything with your niki
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rlan214:
finally got this to work using haret :)

after lots of reading so a lil tip for everyone i'm

pretty sure its been covered alot but

install the right radio and make sure you format your sd card

everytime you load a new build i know you don't have to

but i felt I had to do it anyways especially when you get

that never ending loop once you exit the android install

so far so good wifi works(I don't have data plan so this is perfect for me)

gps i just soft reset and use my wm garmin

the only issue i have here really it couldn't find the audio folder where

I put all of my ringtone other than that everything works fine

if anyone can help me with the audio folder thing it would be great

i've used media scanner with no help at all
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pablogarm:
polymod 2.1g BT update

Where can I download polymod_2.1g-BT_Update.zip?

When I visit polymod_2.1g-BT_Update.zip URL from pavel web I get a "404 Not Found" error.

Can somebody give this file?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rayzine:
SD install problem

Follow the SD/haret installation instruction but stuck at the following screen.

Questions:

1. The file inside the zip file is installandroid.tqr (not .tar) is the different of file extension matter. (Although I have download other file with .tar extension, the installation problem still stuck at the screen below).

2. The dpad button is located at the center of the keypad (see the red arrow in the given picture).

3. The installation process will not stop and wait for me to press the dpad key, it just show the following text until "fail to reach system.img ..."

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Shovelhead84:
press and hold the "volume up button." In this case that is the soft key to the right of the direction. (the small dash left of the END CALL and above the MAIL button)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Bigoldben:
I have the same problem as Rayzine....Thing is, after selecting this button, which does take you to install, no other buttons seems to work...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] testuser0072:
Probably your fat32 partition type is extended for now, so delete it and initialize new PRIMARY partition. You can use very good linux tool "GParted" running on virtual machine (VMware). Hope so you have rest of files needed to install android in folder /andboot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rayzine:
THX for reply.

Any window freeware can format my SD to fat32 primary partition?

THANKS.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] h4d3z:
I keep getting image not found and i did everything the tutorial says : haret files are all there also the zImage is in the andboot map.

*edit*

now i do get into the menu but i dont have an install option lol

BTW the SD ard is 2GB 1 Primary partition.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mJoker:
This may have been answered before but searching the 300+ page thread is difficult :P

Is there a way to get WiFi working? That is the only thing I really need to work before I use this permanently. (Camera/GPS/Voice search don't seem to be working either but I'm not too worried about that. If I can get it fixed, great. If not, I'll live :P)

Any help would be appreciated! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] byron0318:
BE ALERT. once you see the "Hold down Volume Up or Dpad Center to Launch installer" press the Dpad button which is pointed with the red arrow and dont release it, just press until the screen goes to the installer menu.

it will not wait for you to press the dpad and will continue until you reach that error "fail to reach system.img".

i had the same thing the first time i flash android on my TyTn II. i guess every newbie will experience that:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] byron0318:
did you try NAND install?? for me it's easier than HARET.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] byron0318:
try installing everything from the start.

~ install the latest .NBH file by fultotop (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=663125)

~ install polymod's 2.1d (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=6105602#post6105602)

~ install WiFi Power Level updates (http://ponack.net/poly/WiFi/)

WiFi works for me...:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rayzine:
THX for your advise but still the same...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] attn1:
How did you format the SD card? Mine did not work formatted FAT32 with Windows7. You could try formatting with Linux or MAC OSX. An Ubuntu Live cd works in a pinch.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kulen:
Use search and you'll find a few programs that should do it from windows. But I tried that. but it's a pain to download, then I couldn't install it for some strange reason and it's a trial ...

So, I used ubuntu live cd. and did that in 5 minutes. there's graphical interface to do that. so even I without any linux experience and without any help did it with no problems. My only suggestion is to do it action by action. and to keep those first few MB unallocated. and you have to unmount any partition prior to doing anything
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jaomi:
How to get Wifi working? I installed on nand, when trying to start wifi it just says "Unable to start wifi" :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rayzine:
THX attn1 and Kulen,

The I will try to format under linux.... THX
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] h4d3z:
But with Nand install dont i flash the phone.

Haret i can run android and win.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rayzine:
I forget... Is that factory pre-formatted? If not, I think I am using Win 7 to format it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
SD cards are usually pre-formatted, however some are formatted as FAT, Android requires SD cards to be formatted FAT32.

If you format an SD card without changing the format type then Windows will just format it using the same file system that is already in use.

Check before formatting that it is set for FAT32.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] khaytsus:
The above very closely matches my configuration.. I have a 512M vfat, 280M ext2, and around 3G ext2 partition. To me it looks like everything installed right, everything runs, but I cannot install from the Market, says "not enough space to install this item". The Settings app shows lots of free space.

Is it permissions? I've re-ran the "Fix permissions" in the boot menu already, just in case, didn't help however.

Same with installing from apk, "K-9 Mail could not be viewed. Free up some space on your phone and try again."

Installed to SD card (4G card) partitioned as above, installed using haretinstall.zip and polymod_2.1g.zip

Any suggestions would be appreciated!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Try with a data partition less than 2Gb.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] khaytsus:
Really?? It's ext2, not FAT, surely there isn't such a silly limitation as that!

I'll try it though.

WTF! That was it! I don't get it, ext2 has no such limitations..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Gonkerd:
nice

nice work

GPS works

Wifi works

although in the Netherlands the required radio version doesn't accept the code on the sim.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
It does if the kernel says it does ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] junooni:
missing instructions

the above method doesn't say to download basefiles and haretinstall.zip doesn't have rootfs.img

gives a million I/O errors and doesn't work!

Please post correct step-by-step process
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
you are a. @!/*

1. if you would bother to read what it says in the part you quoted...

just following where it says "SD install"

2. i/o errors are a problem with "YOUR" sdcard.

3. don't be an Ass when asking for help. this website isn't focused on guiding step-by-step for noobies...the name 'developers' should clue you in to that..

(oh yea...you don't know how to read)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] reggiec:
My Experience with Polymod 2.1g on Kaiser

My first post

As a total newb to the Kaiser scene I just wanted to say thanks to all the Devs and Mods in this thread, and the greater XDA community. Since I joined I have gone from a stock Kaiser running Winmo 6.1, to an awesome 6.5 Rom, to Polymod 2.1g. My setup is so much nicer now that I am running Android, and the biggest point I want to make here is to READ the thread (and others) in DETAIL before you attempt to mod your OS. Chances are that someone else has already asked your question before (in over 300 pages) and that the answer is already there. The guys on here that know their stuff put a huge effort in to get it to this point, so show some respect and SEARCH for an answer before asking a question. The more you research and prepare before attempting any mod, the more your chances of doing it correctly improve.

You guys rock, much respect :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
I have been involved with kaiser android for a while now, in particular, answering questions and giving help where I can, but really, the sheer lack of at least a basic search for help astounds me.

If you read the thread carefully, you will have realised that there is no more rootfs, it's no longer needed, and I/O errors indicate an SD card problem, also covered in this and many other threads.

A step by step process is as follows, use this : http://xdaforums.com/search.php

Prepare your SD card properly.

Carefully read the instructions for installation, read them again, then follow them, one step at a time.

I hope this has addressed your complete lack of basic knowledge of Android, and look forward to you posting the outcome, ( and your gratitude to the many devs and other community members who selflessly give their time to help realise what was only a dream 6 month ago).

Thanks reggiec, nice post, I like it :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] solucionesjj:
i get the lasted version from: http://www.ponack.net/poly/2.1g/polymod_2.1g.zip, but it not run, run from haret, after create data file, show this message: failed to find system.img on sd card.

the files on sd are:

/andboot/androidinstall.tgz

/conf/cyanogen.user.conf, donut.user.conf, hero.user.conf, ion.user.conf, rogers.user.conf, tattoo.user.conf, xrom.user.conf

/media/audio/****

/media/resources/****

/default.txt

/haret.exe

/initrd.gz

/rootfs.img

/zImage

it is correct? any idea?

kaiser 120 tytn II
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] casoft:
Press the down Volume button

Hi.

Im have this problem and please check your hared version, when start in the screen show: "Press dpad" or "Vdown", then when your look this message in the screen press:

Down Volume button or DPAD Button (The button of the center)

In other versions you need press: Up Volume Button

Please check this to install Android in your SD or in your NAND.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mreaglejr:
hi guys, i tried installing this via haret:

got in the install menu, wiped data, installed android, pressed quit.

after reboot i got: "Unable to open persistant property directory /data/property error: 2"

i tried overwriting the data.img from j101399j's post, and tired reinstalling without deleting the user data, but same ending.

is it that i didn't do the 3 volumes? anybody has any ideas?

i tried looking in this thread, used search, spent a few hours, but no idea

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jaomi:
This thread is halfway to hell!

Also, I think i got my wifi working by installing a update, but i'm also getting a ****load of msm_i2c_interupt : IRQ but nothing to do errors.

EDIT : Removing the battery is now necessary if I want to be able to soft-reset.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] junooni:
Thanx Zenity, I wish mnjm9b was half as sensible...

I am a noob in terms of android and only time (and support) will change that...I changed the sd card and it worked so yes there was a prob with the card but never occurred in winmo...i have over 2 dozen apps installed on the card on winmo and none ever gave any prob so obviously i didn't doubt the card.

there are some issues that i want to understand:

1. I'm using a 2gb card on FAT32. immediately after bootup, i get an error like "process system is not working" or something like that....i usually press 'wait' and it goes fine after a while.

2. as soon as i open an application or do any activity, the cpu shoots to 100% (even if i flip the home pages) and the device freezes for sometime. all in all, it feels very slow and annoying

3. A-GPS does not work. since you can't get gps indoors, this kills the device as it keeps looking for a lock...i haven't checked the GPS outdoors yet

I think if the issue of cpu is resolved, the OS will be fast enough to be usable. Right now it takes upto 2 min to bring up an app and i get a prompt of 'not responding' a couple of times during that. Even resuming from sleep is painfully slow.

Any help? is this also related to sd card access speed? i have bought a brand new kingston sd and if would like to check the OS properly before experimenting on NAND
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xPreSiDenT:
Backup your winmo and try nand, you cant check the OS properly or get an idea of the stability that nand offers, without using it on nand for yourself. If android is working too slow, or if stuff like gps isnt working, try some different nbh, or zimage if you still want to stick with haret. Make sure you have gone through all the performance related threads, as there are many things you can experiment with and noone can possibly point them all out for you. Personally I find the present eclair builds abit too slow so I'm sticking with donut. Try that on nand for speed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] junooni:
thanks a lot sadar sb :)

i think i'll try donut for now...and take a deep breath and flash on nand over the weekend!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
@junooni

I often give help, advice, and tips to noobies that ask for help. ( we were all noobies at one time)

the problem is... you didn't ask for help.

instead you come in here making BOLD statements about something

you obviously don't understand.

there was nothing wrong with the instructions.

there is nothing wrong with the speed on this build (maybe not as fast as a desktop...)

and the errors you get are also not a problem with the build.

Zenity has a nicer way with words. ( at least he seems to have more patience with your nonsense)

one thing I should say to you is "DO NOT FLASH TO NAND"

you have no idea what you are doing and you will probably Brick your phone.

you have to do a lot of reading and understanding of what your doing and

you need to know what to do if it goes wrong (and it does sometimes go wrong)

the last thing we need is for you to come back here SCREAMING about how it

is Poly's fault that you broke your phone.

Also, Read forum rules...

Read Stickies

and most of all use "SEARCH"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] junooni:
:)

on this note of your patience, I would apologize for the way I made you or anyone else feel...

I'm pretty hands-on when it comes to windows mobile but this is the first time i have tried android. also i have bought kaiser a week ago so still understanding it...

i have a blueangel, a universal and had an advantage (advantage was lost)...

coming back to android, i've figured out at least how to flash on sd and am going to try Incubus's eclair or Myn's donut to compare...

i can also buy another (bigger) sdhc card if someone has a better experience with a certain class...

thanks for help and hope to be able to become one of the 'helpers' instead of a noob :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Ok as far as running form SD card is concerned, it is slower, however it's not really that slow.

I agree with Mnjm, don't flash to Nand yet, you must take some time to get used to Android, and how to optimise it to get the best out of it.

I have had a few scares since starting to run Android on nand, and would not recommend it until you have more experience with it.

The size and class of SD card don't make that large a difference in my opinion, although you must have enough space for the android install of course, anything over 1GB should work fine though.

To help optimise the speed you may want to take a look at some of the settings, in particular the window animation settings, turning down the settings helps speed, also have a look at taskiller, running this as a widget allows you to kill tasks you are not actively using, again saving memory and increasing responsiveness.

And reread my original answer, including the reason for editing ;)