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[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peterc10:
I admit that I am partly, but not totally, wrong. ;)

Again AFAIK the GSM Hero available in the UK (where I am) does not use the phone data connection to collect orbital or almanac data from an assistance server so as to allow quicker satellite lock on, which is what I had always understood A-GPS to be, and which is part of the definition of A-GPS in Wikipedia. Again, if I am wrong on that I apologise in advance.

It does (as I had previously said) use the phone signal and the position of the masts to plot an approximate position for you when you do not have GPS (indoors for example) or when you have switched GPS off. That info can only be used by some programmes, such as Google Maps, but cannot be used by all sat nav programmes. That was not what I understood A-GPS to mean but I now stand humbly corrected. :o

In my defence I would suggest (as you should always do when looking at Wikipedia) that you check the history and discussion tabs. You will see that my idea as to what A-GPS is used to be close to correct, but the term has changed over time. Ah well ............ such is the problem of getting old(er)!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thiesen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGPS please revise your knowledge...

The HTC Hero (and every other modern smartphone) is using A-GPS... go read the Wikipedia article...
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
ok, i am sorry, also i never meant to flame at you. in fact this seems to be a very interesting discussion.

i have no idea what the hero does exactly, especially not the uk hero... ;) but it was my understanding that it uses a-gps, as says this list. also i have no idea how much of the criteria from the wiki article must/should be met to say it uses a-gps. i guess in the end everybody has to decide for him or herself... ;)

what is sure is that the hero (at least here in germany) uses at least the network information to determine the position. if you know how to wipe everything from the gps (almanach etc) then i would like to try how long it takes to get a fix. if that is an argument in this discussion at all, i guess this needs some reading in advance to get proper results...
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peterc10:
Hmmmm ..... if it is then HTC do not know about it!

Since reading and taking part in this thread I have become totally confused. I therefore decided to clear up this confusion with HTC. I asked their support team a simple question, which was this "Does my Hero come with A-GPS please?" I included in the question the serial number of my phone.

This is their reply:

"Its comes with GPS but you need to buy a software. Unfortunately we are unable to help with your query as we don not support third party applications. Please refer to the software vendor for further assistance. As far as we know this application may not be compatible. We hope that you will find further assistance with the software developer. Please also note that you can use Googlemaps, which is an included navigational software application."

So HTC themselves don't think the Hero comes with A-GPS! And I certainly haven't installed A-GPS

Now I am just more confused. :confused::confused: Or (shock horror) could it be that Wikipedia is wrong!! :eek: Or that HTC don't know what they instal on their own phones :eek::eek:
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
for me that sounds like you had a dumb supporter answering your question, who doesn't know what a-gps is (or that it exists), and when hearing "gps" he thinks about the navigation in his dads car. so he thinks "oompaloompa, dschee-pee-ass are there, but no funny pictures. need to buy pictures ompfompf!" by pictures he means cards for navigation software, since this is all one big, dirty chunk of sticky green slime in his head...

i understand it that the gps receiver itself has the a-gps feature (or not), but it is not controllable by software, at least not by user applications. i might be wrong, but i still wouldn't give too much on htc's answer
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peterc10:
Which is why I went back to them and explained that A-GPS was not third party software and it was included with some of their other phones.

Now I have got this answer back from them

"It’s come with A-GPS its standard. Sorry for the previous answer."

So there you are - straight from the horse's mouth

Having looked again at my old Touch Diamond (now my wife's :D) I was getting A-GPS confused with QuickGPS, which was a programme that downloaded updated ephemeris information weekly. Sorry for that :o
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
lol, i guess i was spot-on with my thoughts! :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sidon100uk:
Ok while we are on the subject will Android work with a bluetooth GPS unit such as the Holux M1000????? I see that google maps on Android has no options for this (can't understand when google maps was better on my Windows Mobile device)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Twenty4:
I have a Telus Hero on AT&T in the US and GPS fix time is typically under a minute. I have no complaints.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] princedwi:
Do you live in an area where it's particularly full of trees or have an older house? That usually delays GPS lock-on, however I've had success with my hero to get gps fixes in places I've never imagined could. Perhaps sending in for warranty might address the issue?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thiesen:
A-GPS is NOT an application... if you read the A-GPS article on Wikipedia you would have known that it is a service from the different cellsite operators around the globe. If you know what triangulation is then you will better understand how A-GPS works...
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peterc10:
IF you had read my post more carefully and IF you had then read my subsequent post you should have realised the following

Firstly I had read the Wikipedia article very carefully, including the notes and history tab

Secondly I decided to ask HTC (the makers of the Hero by the way :rolleyes:) whether or not it supported A-GPS

Thirdly I was reporting THEIR comments about it being third party software NOT MINE.

Fourthly the comment did not sound correct to me which is why I then went back to HTC pointing out that A-GPS was NOT third party software and asking them to reconsider their answer

Fifthly they then came back to me and confirmed that the Hero was indeed compatable with A-GPS

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Oh and BTW I suspect I was finding out about triangulation long before you were born ...... it has been used in practice in surveying for a VERY long time. And the theories upon which it is based, geometry and trigonometry, has been around since the ancient greeks, if not longer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RFOX100:
i already upgrade servall roms and each rom that i update make proble,s with the battery

i have rom 1.71.09.01

the rom of tir 20 k .

and i can play with the device 30 min and the battery goes 50% down

after soft reset its goes up to 89%

strange.

i did hard reset after the update rom and tryied alot of stuff

what else can it be?

i cant handle with this battery issue
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
That's not strange at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RFOX100:
lol so maybe you can explain me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
try another radio, the battery could be bad too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RFOX100:
radio is ok tryed so many. dont thing its battery issue .any more advice?

because sometimes its going good and sometimes no
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] WonkotheSane:
They determine the state of charge in a battery by very small changes in the battery's output voltage. When you reset the phone, the phone stops pulling power from the battery, which can temporarily raise the voltage of the battery. The opposite (but less likely) explanation is that your phone had some process going that drew a lot of power, thus pulling the voltage down. When you reset, that process was gone.

It is really hard to accurately measure the state of charge of a battery while it is powering an operating circuit. I think it's a minor miracle that they do as well as they do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RFOX100:
ok so how can i know how much is my real battery life.

and when i dont use the phone i see that there isnt even 1 program on that maybe can take battery life

dont know what to do i guess i will try to update alot of roms until i will fine the right one

maybe its better to wait for windows 7?
[HD2 General] RichardC:
I know everyone is sick of people harping on about how great the HD2 is. Sorry but it's my turn. This phone is definitely WOW. Thumbs up to HTC for breaking new ground.

I know there are a few issues with:

- A keyboard that's too 'sensitive'

- A volume level that's too 'loud'

- A camera that's too 'pink'

But not many people have mentioned the 3 things that are really outstanding. The screen, the screen and the screen.

OK - I've said my bit, now back to work.

PS. HTC - don't forget to send my cheque ;)
[HD2 General] Xaddict:
SRS WoW

Try this for WoW.
[HD2 General] RichardC:
You can't have too much WOW.
[General Questions and Answers] xredjokerx:
the stock tf3d weather tab has a "my location" update button.

i commute a lot, to about 4 or 5 cities a day and i want to know if theres a titanium plugin? app? that can be on the home screen that will update the weather according to my location

i tried titanium weather, but i dont think it can do that unless i manually type in the zip code, which is what im trying to avoid. anyone have a solution?
[Android Themes] david1985:
i know a theme is hard to make but why is there so many plain themes being made these days
[Android Themes] opasha:
i guess...get down on your knees and pray for one you like...lol...or post your suggestions of what you would like to see in a theme.
[Android Themes] sykopompos:
Well I have said in my thread for blinded by faith that says I am open to suggestions and feedback. So if you got any ideas just let me know and I would be more than willing to try to work people's ideas in
[Android Themes] mrnv45:
i dont know how to creat one or i would.. i do graphixs..im just to busy right now to learn that actual details of this and that..

but if any themers wanna get down on a new theme let me know! in a pm! i probably wont find this post anymore lol..
[Android Themes] cacheinjection:
Check out darkstar and experion!

i think they are fairly new and exciting,

i work mostly on darkstar. but try and pop my head in on experion now and again!

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[Android Themes] blackknightavalon:
I actually keep saying they should port all the old themes for JF's 1.42 RC33 build. THOSE were effin masterpieces.
[Android Themes] dmm0816:
flashed your theme for the first time yesterday and its tight...i left what little suggestions i could think of for you in your thread lol

i usually use marks theme, mblend, blackice, and now blinded by faith....alternate everyday or 2
[Android Themes] brandenk:
Make your own theme: *MOD EDIT* We aren't here to promote other sites.

Edit: PM me if you want to know how to make your own theme and you cant find the info
[Android Themes] Stericson:
Lets not promote other sites guys, especially when the appropriate content is already on XDA. I understand referring someone elsewhere when the content is not available on XDA, but when it is available on XDA we need to be referencing that content unless its outdated and not viable any longer.

Stericson
[Android Themes] B-man007:
well then...opasha's theme isnt on xda......

@ OP, if you want to see opasha's theme, its located here: http://androidoverdrive.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=72
[Android Themes] sahurbari:
lol

If I knew how to make them this thread wouldn't exist is it just me or are most of these themes made are meant for the adp phone just seems that most of the themes out there are made for the dark g1's.The only themes in my opinion for the white g1 is the alienaqua theme from prash an the plastic theme
[Android Themes] mohsinkhan47:
Yeah, I have also seen themers come and go. We should encourage them(*cough* donation *cough*). And plus if you already like the theme try to make it better by posting your comment on the theme. Critize the theme. The more ideas you give the better it is for that themer and for that theme. You should check out my thread on final fantasy 7 on xda and on my site mk47.weebly.com for previews to my theme. My site also starting to have font for any rom and theme from my thread. Just check it out and post ideas on other themers thread.
[Android Themes] digitallysick:
A lot of the themes are terrible. Enoch has the best theme. The rest are ugly, cluttered, or immature.

We are just now starting to see decent minimal themes
[Android Themes] FckingAllen:
i really want to see more unique themes. off the wall ****. and PROFESSIONAL looking artwork done on them. tired of all these amateur themes with terrible photoshop work. but thats my opinion. i love a lot of them at the same time =]
[Android Themes] mohsinkhan47:
You should help out in the theme making process( not trying to put on a stop). Help with finding a template if you have a great idea tell us themers or post a request. Try to find good artwork and we themers will try to work on it. Like for example systemforce was orginally another artist work but prash liked the idea and used it. Now look at it people were going crazy over that theme ( like I did). I'll see what I could do to hellp you guys out. I am too looking for a cool theme. A user wants me to make systemforce to blue and white. I thought about it and I am starting to customize the theme.

" You could live your life for yourself, or you could help bulid the future." -- busybox(I think that what it said from ddms)
[Android Themes] sahurbari:
video

I wish someone can make a video on youtube on how to do this I would have no problem making themes I enjoy the features that most of them give.Plus I understand how people feel an the themers feel.I think that most of these themes are just clones of one another with things switched around but @ the end of the day they do this for us.
[Android Themes] Jerzeeloon:
I can understand not making as many themes right now because CM is releasing new builds all the time,but I sure wish more people would release themes for dwang 1.13,this rom is amazingly fast and stable.
[Android Themes] opasha:
i would make themes for that rom, but i don't like it because i can't adb push my apps to the /system/sd/app the way i can on cyanongen's rom. this is because i wipe my data and my ext before switching from cyan's to dwang's and that's the problem i ran into. i could push them to /data/app but that is on internal memory and that's bad. if someone could PM me on how to fix this issue, i'd gladly switch over to that rom and makes themes for it :).
[Android Themes] djdarkknight96:
To add to that, try Metamorph. It lets you theme your phone with bits and pieces you would like.....especially if you like white themes. More and more themers are adding their bits so soon we will be able to make our own themes without the knowledge of how to produce them!
[Android Themes] opasha:
nevermind fixed my ext to have the push work :). ill try and port themes to dwang soon.
[Android Themes] amac25:
Where's your pretty, uncluttered, and mature theme?

At least one of you is attempting to make your own instead of just whining. I have a white g1 i don't think themes are made with specific color phones in mind just my opinion tho i could be wrong.

When you really "want" something don't you go get it? or do you whine about it till your mommy makes it for you? Im getting tired of ungrateful ppl do you know how much time we put into doing this and ontop of that for free no one pays us for this we do it out of kindness for the community I could've just as easily kept my theme for myself for personal use only and maybe i should've but i decided to share it. Its simple if you don't like em don't use it stick wit stock or better yet if its so easy make your own what is the point of insulting the hard work of the ppl that are trying to give you something for FREE especially when you don't have the skill to do it yourself i could see your argument if you paid for it but come on its free what do you really want. Its stuff like this that makes the good themers leave or start making market themes and no i'm not talking about myself i am FAR from a professional i do it for fun but at least i try. If you want something professional looking use any of prash's themes they are by far the best out there imo. I see alot of good concepts coming out and being taken on by themers and there is a decent collection of themes here at least where not stuck using stock anymore you should be grateful for that instead of whining about what we don't have. These are just my thoughts and opinions i'm not speaking for any other themers here but this thread is really making me consider why i even do it at all anymore with the exception of the few ppl that realize we don't have to do this.
[Android Themes] prash:
I had really hoped this thread was a joke.

You try changing 1200+ images only to get complaints about someone wanting it in a different color no matter what color you made it in :]
[Android Themes] david1171:
Next time I will try and take every image from your theme.

I am deeply sorry I have only used any kind of photo editing software for a few months. Thanks for the motivation. It is appreciated by all.

Exactly, before I tried theme-ing, I had no clue how much work went into just setting everything up, much less editing hundreds upon hundreds of images. I have 32 .apk's in my theme themed. Between 1750 and 2000 images in my theme have been edited. Almost every .9.png has been edited, meaning that it has had to have guidelines made for it, and be compiled in eclipse then tested to make sure it even works.

This thread is really making me reconsider releasing anything else. When someone makes a theme, he/she make it for his/her self to use, and to turn around and be told it looks like crap. yeah, that is huge encouragement.

If you can whine about a theme not looking up to your standards, then you can release a theme that is up to your standards.
[Android Themes] jairomeo:
It really gives me a warm tingly feeling inside to see people ungratefulness for themers hard work to give everyone options. Sorry if in yoru head you'd like to see something different. You could always sit and take the time to learn how to do it, and make these mature themes you are looking for.
[Android Themes] Jerzeeloon:
Thank you.
[Android Themes] ionsof:
Everyone is doing a great job theming and is appreciated but, i agree the themes from the old JF builds were absolutely amazing:). also i have been craving a nice hero theme for cm 4.2.7.1. if anybody is intrested.
[Android Themes] brandenk:
This is exactly why I just make my own themes for myself and just share it with you guys. If I've already spent the time for myself then I dont mind sharing but I rarely go out of my way to cater to requests because its never done right or not the right color, or something else needs to be changed too. Im not making money off of this, its not going to get me somewhere one day, I just do it for me, and you guys get the fringe benefit so enjoy it. :)
[Android Themes] ionsof:
ya that is very true, I wish i knew how to make my own themes.
[Android Themes] amac25:
I agree with that also those are the reason i started trying to make themes in the first place gloss suite, aero, system force, moondust etc..
[Android Themes] sykopompos:
Wow david, calm down, boy. It is a lot of work but there is no need to go off

Keep releasing your **** cause a lot of people do like your work
[Android Themes] prash:
Wow I can't believe you just said the old themes were amazing then in the same line asked for YET ANOTHER hero based theme...

This is the issue, everyone wants Rosie/Sense based look, anything different and new doesn't get noticed because everyones too busy making yet another hero theme.

I really don't have anything against hero themes, and I even used the original one when it was out because it did look great, but rosie was new and shiny back then, now its like everyone and their dad had their turn with her and she's not looking so hot anymore. ​

Three big reasons why the JF days of themes were so great:

JF didn't release a new rom for months. I love CM and the rom but as a themer its a pain in the ass to port over all the 1000+ files each time theres a new update, not to mention the fans start bugging you if you don't get to it right away and abandon you. Metamorph is doing a real good job of saving us from this now though. Hopefully everyone moves over to using Metamorph.

No hero. Simple, there was creativity because everyone wasn't after the same exact look in different shades. You saw multitude of themes because they were encouraged and welcomed. Right now anything new and just a tad different gets pushed aside for the scores of hero themes. Again nothing against them (read above) just how the 'fans' are responding.

I just saw a decent looking idea in the android themes forum called Crisp, to me it looked different and seemed like a great start to a full theme someone posted, yet its already getting negative comments. Fine if you don't like it its ok, just don't discourage the new theme makers.

Exclusivety. This is a new thing around here, people want fame out of making themes. Back in JF days, we made themes for ourselves, then shared them for others to use. That was it, simple. Now people are trying to compete and out-do each other and trying to be 'first' at everything then want credit.

Then people get power ego trips and keep their 'secrets' to themselves. Posting exclusively on other sites keeping away from the center of the community (here) and holding off because..well because they want their name to be somehow associated with android themes. Really, if you're making themes to get famous, then you're in for the wrong reasons.

Android itself is a community effort, especially the custom roms. Share, teach and nurture the new theme makers and you'll see more and more people coming up with new ideas. Criticism is fine, just be constructive about it not 'THIS SUCKS' "WASTE OF THEME" type comments I see sometimes.

Anywho I've ranted enough, just a themer's perspective. Hope it helps those who understand to keep going and not let users drive you off from making themes.
[Android Themes] DeaDnuLL:
Close Prash but it is more like 2,227+ give or take a couple. That is CM mod anyway ;)