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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] raist1976:
Make this build snapier

First thing, let me tell you how much I'm impressed by this build.

It's really fast and on pair with the previous reference in term of speed : Myn's warm donut.

I was however disapointed by one thing : when returning from an application to the home, it was loading again... it didn't stay in the memory.

To fix that I applied the same memory thresholds as the one used in Myn's warm donut and it now loads back smoothly without having to wait a few seconds !

I didn't create an update.tar for this, just edited the sysinit.rc inside the tar file and reinstalled without wiping the data.

I run on pola100 but I guess the device memory is the same on kaiser and vogue.

Extract sysinit.rc from the zip, push it inside the tar archive and install !

... and enjoy fast eclair :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hyperfly:
I am using HaRET...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] iseeka:
an update.tar would be great so we don´t have to reinstall everything
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ArvinSR:
Did you select the default.txt for your phone(vogue/polaris/kaiser) and rename it (if necessary) and edit it to use the zImage-eclair instead of zImage?? After doing this and copying the androidinstaller.tgz to the andboot folder, the installation process is exactly the same as before. There is a link to the instuctions in the first post. Hope this helps.:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
This is a full wipe install, best way is to backup your default.txt, and clear the SD card of any previous installs, then reinstall the new build, this will ensure you have no files left from 2.1a4 which may cause the install option not to show in the menu.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] raist1976:
well I don't know how to do an update but will look into.

However, reinstalling the system doesn't kill your data partition and your settings, unless I'm mistaken.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hyperfly:
Yes, I am using all files from previous build (which works well), except system.img and data.img (I deleted them). I copied "androidinstall.tgz" into andboot folder and started HaRET- after that my boot menu contains "fix permission" item instead of the "Install". I hope that repack from "androidinstall.tgz" to "androidinstall.tar" will help. Now I try to find some archiver for Windows which can do this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hoatienii:
Boot very slow, suspended. This version is not good
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jonahs:
NAND installation and tgz support

Just thought I'd give you all some feedback on my NAND installation. I tried using the same NBH-flash as I did with 2.1b which is dzo's 15-02-10 version and this didn't seem to support the change from tar to tgz. I went to the SF repository and flashed my phone with the 2010-02-20 version and I got this to work immediately. I'm now happily running OpenEclair-v1.2.2,polymod_2.1g on my trusted Kaiser and I'm still impressed by the speed of this ageing phone.

Great work poly, I enjoy every release!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
Hi,

I want to report that I got rid of the msm-i2c error waiting for notbusy with the kernel from there http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D zImage-04-03-10

@polyrythmic do you only make the image or the kernel too? can you point out, why I get that error with the zImage-eclair from sourceforge and with the zImage-04-03-10 from dzo I think it is fine?

EDIT: but man, it is very slow on fat32. I have to try out ext2. I think that will be better. BUt if i close the background task and let android boot for a while it is pretty ok with fat32
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] reiteravi:
do u mean the home screen ?

did u try spareparts home app in memory ?

or i missed big ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] assangflexx:
I was playing also in spare parts. I changed the option what the end button has to do. Default nothing was selected. I changed it in some option, tried button, but didn't go to sleep. Now i can't change it back :( Android won't go to sleep anymore. Only if ya wait for 30 seconds.

Someone has a fix, without install the whole android again on fresh formatted sd-card ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 249184912:
Why can not I use this system, I want to use this new 2.1G of ANDROID system, but I entered the installation interface without the option to install the system, who can help me? ? I'm using POLARIS ...

My memory card is 1G, format is FAT32.

Who can help me overcome this difficulty, Thank you very much.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
Then there may be some files missing or the default.txt is wrong
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Ok for those of you having trouble updating from 2.1a4 to 2.1g, you MUST wipe all the old files from SD card before you try to install. Best thing to do would be to Format your SD card, then do a full install.

I think the reason some are having trouble upgrading is that they are trying to install onto an SD card that already has an installed system on it.

As noted by Poly already in the first post:

UPDATE 4 Mar 2010:

polymod 2.1 gamma now released! This is a major update!

THIS IS A FULL-WIPE BUILD. SYSTEM and DATA MUST BE WIPED FOR INSTALLATION.

Please note that this means you MUST make certain that you wipe your previous install completely, remove everything. The only thing you might safely keep is the default.txt you used previously to boot Haret, Personally, for me a full wipe means just that, Format that SD and reinstall, this makes sure that any problems are NOT from previous installs.

@Polarfuchs: glad to see you managed to get around the msm_i2c issue, kinda knew it was a kernel issue, just wasn't sure if the dzo and vilord kernels were the same, ( this confirms that they are in fact different ), the only differences I had noticed before in the nbh's were the supported keyboard types.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] the-nj:
thanks!!

hey thanks poly for this great build again!

i would love to help in any way i can but as im still a high school student in germany i can't really afford donations...

but i would love to help with the camera/bluetooth/speaker/video playback problems...

so if you could tell me where to get the files and what to do (so what has already been done and what has to be done) it would be great!

and thanks again for this build! i love it

nick
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Beackman:
Hey poly, i installed your build, and are great, now i dont know what Build i use, your or Myn's. hehehehe.

Only one thing to say, some times they get slow, not too much, but slow, and i go to taskkiller and are 5 sometimes 6 programs open. any idea to solve this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
I found one downside:

with ext2 partitions on SD Card I get the msm-i2c error again, even with that other kernel.

Have these ext2 partitions to be lable in an specific way? Or why get I this error only with ext2 method and on fat32 method not?

I made the partitions in an ubuntu VM with gparted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
@raist1976: reiteravi is right, if you want the home app to stay in memory, you should check the option in spare parts. Changing your sysinit could cause other problems.

@hoatienii: this version is great, you just need to have patience.

@Polarfuchs, @zenity: dzo and vilord kernels have the same code by date, sometimes dzo just has a few new patches that haven't been committed to the sourceforge repo yet. Interesting to know that it half-solved your i2c bus problem.

@assangflexx: Setting the End button behavior to "Go to sleep" works just like normal for me.

@the-nj: You can see/get the source from http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/develop . Then it's up to you to pick a project you feel comfortable with. You can always join #htc-linux on freenode if you have questions.

@Beackman: In Android, unused memory is wasted memory. Android autokills tasks based on priority when it starts to run out of memory, and it autostarts tasks when it has free memory. I find this build to have great memory management and I hardly ever use TasKiller now. However, there are programs available in Market that will autokill your tasks if that's your preference.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
I found the following in the dmesg, perhaps that is a hint:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Beackman:
Poly sorry the invasion, but i made this "update" to who need the LCD density in 160.

Unzip the file copy to andboot and install the update.;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Cool, but why did you also include/modify with the sysinit.rc? I'll add your post and that wifi one to the FAQ's
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Beackman:
î keep the file sysinti.rc to avoid problems. :D

PS my last post are the word HOW the correct is who. hehe
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 249184912:
I did everything I can do, I put back POLARIS installed WM6.5. And then install the polaimg-panel3-320-14-02-10.nbh, then androidinstall files on anboot folder, and then they the memory card into my phone, when the show hold center, I hold the navigation key in the middle, but the show is still not installed the system options, WHY? Points were wrong? who can tell you?

Thank you .....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Beackman:
You are putting the Androidinstall.ZIP or Androidinstall.TAR in andboot folder?

you need to use the Androidinstall.TAR not the .ZIP.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
Now I freak out!!

I went back from ext2 partition method to singel fat32 method and now this won't go either. Though before it did work with fat32. :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Still using the same SD card? I have a 4Gb card that works fine, until I try to install from it, sometimes it works, sometimes it won't, I use an old 2Gb for installing, and just keep my media files on the 4Gb one, since it works fine once Android is installed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 249184912:
yes,I putting the androidinstall.tgz in andboot folder.

March 4 is the release of that TGZ file. That light.

What step do I wrong? I have formatted the memory card, and is FAT32 format.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 249184912:
But my 1GB memory card can be used normally and will not be your kind of situation, if as you say, the interface will be prompted to wait for cards, but will not. But also be able to see other options. I have an 8GB card if it can be used to install?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
Please use the latest SourceForge kernel/.NBH (currently 20-Feb) from polariseclair as stated in the OP.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
I only have that single 8GB Sandisk microSDHC Card.

And it is still the same card, yes.

I did run checkdisk but all fine, maybe I can defragment it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Blinkydamo:
Benifit of using NAND and will the battery be better??

Hi guys, I have been using this OS for a little while on and off, for the most part it runs well using partitions on an sd-card (fat32 and 2 x ext2).

The biggest problem that I seem to have is the battery, runs down very fast and is not showing the same battery level as wm6.5 is showing.

Will running the NAND version be significantly faster and will the battery life/level be better then running from SD? I am not worried abot bluetooth at the moment but does everything else run on NAND?

Cheers for any info supplied,

Blinky
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
@Blinkydamo all the questions you have can be answered by reading the OP and using search. Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
@polarfuchs : may have to try getting another SD card, I'm not even certain if defragging an SD is possible, or even worth doing. I'd just go get a cheap 2GB SD for installing, can't be that expensive, they only cost about 5-10 euro here.

Plus that may help with the problem, or eliminate another potential cause at least.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 249184912:
I installed the new NBH file, and then use my 8G card to install. Now Tip: hold down volume up or dpad center to launch installer.

But I hold, and no use. To stay in that picture.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Sounds like good stuff here. By the way, if you set up a Paypal I would consider tossing some bucks your way. There just hasn't been enough Android development for Kaiser lately.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Offer still stands on an app. If I get a list of even just what to include I will write a front-end app. Being inherently Java, your best bet is an app for debugging I just don't know what specifically to look at such as the standby script. I can make a service that will run that when the phone is put to sleep (and probably will) if I can get a couple other things to add to it. I am all about quick and dirty hacks until a real solution is made. I can't use Eclair full time because of the sleep issue and that would be enough to let me.

Either way I will research that further on my own but some help/feedback would be nice-- let's at least get temporary patches in order right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aqtrans:
An app that would 'emulate' the correct sleep function would be perfect until the source of the problem is found and correctly fixed. I was just thinking of making a widget that's only function would be running a script to sleep the phone, but an app or service is definitely a better "fix".
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
This is the real problem

[ 1918.049999] android_power_suspend: enter suspend
[ 1918.051417] PM: Syncing filesystems ... done.
[ 1918.089421] Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed 0.00 seconds) done.
[ 1918.096499] Freezing remaining freezable tasks ... (elapsed 0.00 seconds) done.
[ 1918.100376] RTC Suspend: Current time=7:46:13
[ 1918.102144] Wake up in 108 seconds
[ 1918.102144] sleep_delay=0
[ 1918.102144] msm_pm_wait_state(80, 0, 0, 0) failed 10929
[ 1918.102144] msm_sleep(): msm_pm_wait_state failed, 10929
[ 1918.102144] RTC Resume: Current time=7:46:13
[ 1918.103599] msmrtc_resume: alarm=1261295281, now=1261295173
[ 1918.122452] Restarting tasks ... done.
[ 1918.249477] android_power_suspend: exit suspend, ret = 0 (2009-12-20 07:46:13.732353325 UTC)
[ 1918.251407] android_power_suspend: pm_suspend returned with no event
[ 1918.292242] ds2746: 4191mV 15mA charge: 100/100 (4509 units)
[ 1918.292271] aux0: 237 (1299) aux1: 16 (70)
[ 1918.399982] android_power_suspend: enter suspend
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] windows300:
To make Android, mobile Windows 6.1 or 6.0 are needed?

With mobile Windows 6.5, Android starts?

Sorry for my language, i am French
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] phjott:
Doesn't matter, you can choose what you want. But I think you have to HardSPL and CID-unlock your Kaiser before booting Android (correct me if I'm wrong) and you have to disable PIN-check in WinMo before booting aswell.

/phjott
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] windows300:
Yes Tanks,

You a sur for Windows Mobile 6.5 !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] unilizer:
I'm running it on WM6.5 and it works fine, so it shouldn't give you any problems
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joelmassee:
New error for me on Startup -- Keyboard not Responding

Hello, I am running the latest files for this build and am experiencing the same issues already noted, expect for this one.

On initial startup, after unlocking I receive the following error.

Sorry

Application Android Keyboard (in process com.android.inputmethod.latin) is not responding. Force Close Wait

Force Close seems to eliminate the issue.

I haven't seen the issue at other times when using phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] windows300:
I want a movie of Android Eclair on HTC kaiser ! Please ! Tanks !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] LyfSkills:
I'll make a video here shortly for you. Just picked up a Flip UltraHD! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kendav911:
many thanks

I was able to get my tilt back in working order. I had used an old startup and was missing a few things.

Other things to have this as a perfect fit for me permanently.

A) Flashable

B) Speakerphone working

C) Bluetooth working

I know the Vogue forums has flashing working just hope it comes over to the Kaiser soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ReggieA86:
Great build!!Anyone figured out how to get street view working with google maps??

"common Sense Isn't Common Anymore"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Cryos:
Great work on this sofar, has anybody notice increased Battery usage ? Im seeing 3 hours to flat

Radio: 1.70.19.08

P: 25.83.40.02H

Get about a day out of WinMo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
What do you mean? Sometimes it doesn't feel like loading, but usually if I close it and then open it again it'll work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
@Pandemic187: Thanks, I hadn't really considered it before. I appreciate the thought, maybe I'll get my Paypal account linked up.

@Newbie16: Is that from strace? If you would show me the commands you used to get that far, I'd love to learn it. Well done and thanks!

@windows300, phjott: You don't need to unlock or flash your phone with anything to boot Android, but it's best to flash the latest Radio to be the most compatible.

@kendav911: Flashing Android on Kaiser is a longggg way off for now, don't hold your breath unless you're working on it yourself. Flashing will introduce a whole new set of problems (as anyone who has read the Vogue Flashing thread knows). Bluetooth is not far off but again we need someone who can fix the driver. We have to concentrate on getting the hardware working (BT, GPS, etc) and stable before we start flashing. Believe me if/when we get that far there will be a huge new thread about it.

I think at this point an app to force sleep won't work, since it's not truly sleeping as Newbie16 points out. Most of the sleep function is working correctly until it goes to send the chip sleep command. I don't know how much time I'll have over the holidays to fix the sleep issue but I'm going to try to get all our information together with Vogue and Dream devs and see if anything clicks.

EDIT: @Cryos: Wow, 3 hours? I usually can get at least 8 out of Android on this build. Is that 3 hours of heavy use? Anyway, working 'standby' is definitely my highest priority for this build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Cryos:
Yeh i might play about with Radio roms and see. I know it is definatly misreading the remaining battery life. Ill play about and see if i can get to the bottom of it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
I used adb to get a shell, then used logcat to watch the error messages
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
Excuse me for being the noob here, but when I did that with my device it wasn't nearly as detailed. Do I need to set a variable to see more low-level debug messages? I've tried looking in the 'events' buffer, looking through dmesg... what am I not doing?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Not the most informative answer but logcat is pretty detailed. There probably is a way to turn up the verbosity but I don't know. If you've got some free time you can always compile the kernel and throw in printf statements. Although I didn't get far on my own, I did that with the framebuffer to help track down where X was crashing. Also, you can grab the current kernel's .config file from /proc/config.gz (which is set in make menucfg) to make sure you have everything checked. I found a couple things different from the posted version than my phone had so it saved me a lot of time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxaznxx27:
i sometimes just pull the battery out, let it load back up and it works. hahah+D

hey does anyone think if i just reflash android, market will work again? maybe i didn't wait long enough when i installed it?...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Am I seeing a pattern here? Is it just me or do people with 8Gb cards seem to have more issues than those with smaller capacity cards?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Well it won't hurt, I actually waited about 15 minutes after first boot, just to be extra sure, and pretty much everything works as normal, apart from my eternal struggle with my wifi setup, ( gone to the extent of getting an older tiwlan.ini

that I knew worked, it eats more power, but works better).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dameon_03:
can anyone help me with gettin this into full sleep? i am running the early version of the 2.0.1 build because i cant seem to flash the radio required for the newer version. any help?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
I'm running this on NAND but using an 8 GB SD card and I haven't had any problems. I read everything and search so if I have any issues I can fix it.

@Poly: Great build. Haven't had any issues!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] raist1976:
Will check that indeed because system is becoming way too slow now.

I was tempering with those settings because I've seen other people changing that setting and also the setting was different in Myn Warm's donut...

But I guess system are a little too much different and that the memory usage is getting too much for my poor polaris :)

Will get back to default and try the spare parts !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DJHile:
First, I just wanted to say that this update certainly improved the speed and stability over the old version. I'm not getting NEAR as many unresponsive apps / Force Stops.

Here are the problems I've noticed:

1) Still a bit slow between transitions from home screen to launching apps.. usually a 20-30 sec "black screen" when launching an app

2) For some reason I am getting absolutely no data connection at all. Not getting WIFI connection either. When I turn Wifi on and then open the browser or try to connect to the facebook app... Web Page Not Available. Odd because wifi worked in the old version but I can't seem to get it to work in the new update. I'm using the recommended radio of 1.71.09.01.

3) I can hear people during a call but they can not hear me... again, I figured this may be a radio problem but I am running the 1.71.09.01 radio that is recommended.

4) Maps won't load for me bc I have no data connection so I can't test out the Maps / GPS etc

5) Stupid n00b question but... How do I install the "Optional Apps"? Do I just run them from the SD Card? Is there a certain app/setting/etc to use to install the files?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 249184912:
I have to do according to your requests, and the boot after I hold the dpad centre button down, suggests so.

In the end I was not the memory card is not suitable. My two memory cards are FAT32 formatted. Use 1G cards Tip: waitting for card ....... still have to thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
I'm really happy with this build, I'm using an class 2 16GB sd-card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 249184912:
OH, YEAH. I feel like I succeeded, because the option to install the system that has. Thank you Thank you Thank you. Now INSTALLING. . . . But it seems that will jump back to installation options, I pressed the exit to try