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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
If you use an old system.img you will get an old system, we're no longer using the older img based installs, now we use the androidinstall.tar, which is basically a tarball of a prebuilt system, this is installed by the system either in nand or on SD, depending how it is launched.

Well since you're not required to unzip the tar file I'm not surprised your having issues, the Andboot folder should have only one file in it if flashing to Nand, the Androidinstall.tar file. If you place it in root the installer of course cannot find anything where it expects to find it.

Simply download the polymod 2.1a4 package you wish to use, get the best installer NBH from dzo's repository. All the links are on the first post, you need to download only 2 files for initial installation, the installer package and the NBH file.

Place the NBH file on SD root, Unzip the Polymod 2.1a4 package to SD root, rename the NBH file to KAISimg.nbh, you should now have 2 folders and one file on the SD card, Andboot, Taskiller, and KAISimg.nbh.

Now place the SD card in the device, pull the battery, wait 2 minutes, replace the battery, press power and camera buttons to get the Bootloader, which should read the NBH file, and then when asked, press the power button, wait until it says 'Flash Success' and pull the battery again, wait 2 minutes, replace battery, press power button, wait until the text starts scrolling, press and hold Dpad centre button until you get the menu, choose install, say yes to wipe system, and clear data, once it's finished it will return to the menu, choose quit, the device should now boot Android, congratulations, go have a coffee/beer/coke and then play with your Android Kaiser.

Now you can install the update, to do this download the Update package from the link in the first page, unzip the android-displayfix.zip and place the androidupdate.tar file in the Andboot folder on the SD card, then reboot the device while holding down the Dpad centre button again, hold until you get the menu again, this time choose 'Update System' and wait until it finishes, choose quit and it'll boot Android, that's it, job done, go grab another beer/coffee/coke and celebrate....

:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] leadpipecinch:
love this build...i reverted back to an older build right after i installed the first time, but with the display fix it's fantastic and will be my daily...great work man.

now 2 quick questions...

sometimes(about 50/50) when i restart android i get an error message that says "system process is not responding"...doesn't seem to make any problems, just kinda curious as to what the problem is/if there's any fix for it.

also, is there any way to permanently disable the android keyboard? i never ever use it and it's a memory hog. i've tried using autokill in a task manager for it, but it just causes the screen to go black and reload every time i wake the phone up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jrmurph:
I don't get any FC's either, about my only issue with it really is it is too slow to wakeup for the random phone call, sometimes it displays the answer screen quickly, other times after 5-10 seconds, other times it goes to vm before I see the screen. Other than that, I haven't had any other issues, 3G works, wifi (don't use it much) gps... etc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
@binlabin; I did not know that the nbh included an androidinstall.tar; Yes, you repalce that one with the one from the frist post; you did exactly what you are supposed to. I need to update the FAQ's

@rafiii48; If you do not know how to use an nbh file, then do not use that method. I'll quote the FAQ's

Start by reading that thread, AND reading the wiki to learn about nbh files and how to use them. Once you have that down, then you select the nbh file for the panel type for your phone, (only you know that) and the resolution you want. If you do not know how to use an nbh file correctly, you can BRICK you phone; and from your last post on "I get only "Load..." and nothing more happened" you are not using the nbh correctly. If you read that thread and the wiki and have questions, PM me and I'll help, or point you to where to find the answer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
anyone know which apks can be safely removed in the tar file before install? I'm trying to not cause instability but also conserve space since I prefer nand. So far all I did was add in a few apps of my own preference,a t9 library and all audio files with my own notification sounds/ringtones. I'm going to see if I install the update on its own to determine if i mesh the base and update together that caused it to crash after i restart once 1st boot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mehrzad8433:
so guys, i've been using android builds from all over the forums for my kaiser for a couple weeks now, and i want to thank everyone for everything that they've done to make this possible!

Recently i've been thinking about flashing my tilt to use android from NAND. Now, i like to think im no noob to flashing roms and the sort, but i dont know which panel type to flash. I normally use the stock default.txt's without changing the panel type, so i assume its panel type 1?

And what are the advantages/disadvantages of the different resolutions? (i never even new about the 428 res)

Thanks again guys!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jrmurph:
For my Tilt I use panel 2 - 428 res and modify the /system/build.prop file's "ro.sf.lcd_density" option to 144 that seems to give a decent clarity, and see most/all apps in the market and makes the icons/text big enough to comfortably read.

You may need to try different panel types to get one that works best for your device, from the sounds of it, people have different results depending on what they have.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] the-nj:
error message in installer

hey i wanted to download the update this morning and when i managed to get into the installer i get a message that says

[ a number that counts from one up, like 135.65386] tsts_thread:adress 0X48

and this repeats infinitly...

what didi i do wrong?

im running NAND and i did put the update into the andboot folder of my sd card...

thankls

nick
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mehrzad8433:
ok, guess ive got a couple to try ahah.

so if i need to flash, for bootloader/resolution reasons, do i just have to reflash the .nbh? or do i have to do the whole process over?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jrmurph:
I've had hit or miss results with flashing a .nbh without a clean install, the last flash I did however played well with my current install, so I didn't have to clear my data or reinstall.

If you have already flashed I'd recommend, doing the install and check your screen before doing any setups, should be able to tell pretty quick if it is going to work or not, then try the next one and check that one and so on till you find the panel type you want, then I'd flash to that .nbh and do a clean install and set yourself up after that.

I could be mistaken, but a few people have mentioned flashing, installing and not seeing any strange results till the next reboot, so at least 2 boots on one panel type to be sure.

If you haven't flashed yet it would be a lot easier to do a sdcard install and just change your default.txt to the different panel types and test them. It would save you from reflashing a bunch.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Hi pal, try This method to check your partitions. They may be corrupted or unreadable to Androind (set to type unknown) or whatever else.

When I did this, I was able to access my card in Win, but not in android and then I've found, that the partitions were all messed up.

So I used fdisk (as I wrote in mentioned post) to create new partition table, and voila... works like charm now :)

So be sure to give it a try...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jonahs:
Another note on partitioning

I've been experimenting a while with partitioning the SD if you haven't got an SD card cradle or Linux on any box in your home.

This was a tough one because of issues with using fdisk in Android to partition the card and afterwards trying to manipulate the partitions within Windows through ActiveSync (or the card as a mass storage device).

The problem was related to the fact that when you rewrite the partition table of the card through Android, following the partition guide being posted in this thread, and do not format it Windows will not be able to "figure out" that there is a FAT-partition that needs to be formatted, giving the result that the card is not visible at all.

What I did was to install Stickit CardExport and create a FAT32 partition first, format that partition and then go through with Android's terminal partitioning. That way I got to access a FAT32 partition and having the EXT2 partitions on the card at the same time, without the need for anything other than Windows and the Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Well, I was thinking about that one too. When I've put the card into my laptop it said, that I have to format the 1st partition to FAT32.

In fact, creating the partition table does not mean, that you really formated yourt partitions. So I'll take a look at that one and check if Android knows how to format patritions it created.

After that, I'll update my walkthrough :)

Thanx for hint...

EDIT: you should be able to use mkfs.vfat [-n LABEL] /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 to format Partition 1 to FAT32 directly in Android... But ATM I do not have my card adapter with me, so I am not able to test it :) I'll try this later and I'll let you know :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gresham:
Hi All,

Is there any way to mount the SD into window vista / xp. This is my only concern as i want to do a NAND install because the SD install is just too slow. But i am worried that should something go wrong or if i need to mount the SD on windows vista to flash a winmo then i wont be able to do it.

Is there anyway to mount the SD , i tried using the pull down menu and selecting mount but that does not work.

TIA
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gresham:
sorry double post removed ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hyperfly:
Sometimes impossible to start Android via Haret.exe

Hello to all,

I've faced with problem during booting Android: after starting haret.exe, and pressing "Run" button screen becomes garbaged, and booting process freezes. This issue reproduced in random order: it can be 1 time successfully booted and then 10 times unsuccessfully, and so on... How I can resolve this issue? PS: my device - HTC Touch Cruise, WM 6.1, radio 1.59.42.15M
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jonahs:
It's a tad difficult to figure out how far you actually get during the boot when it fails, but anyways, here's some things I'd try;

I would do everything from scratch, starting out with formatting and even removing (and recreating) partitions from the SD-card before anything.

Then, first of all I'd recommend upgrading the radio to the latest one, to eliminate anything related to that.

Second I'd get and install the standard package, without modifications, that poly has posted on the first page. I have tried this one out for quite a bit before moving over to NAND, and while having problems with vertical lines during wake up, I seem to have solved that with trying different panel settings and sleep-modes and also upgrading my radio.

Third, it would be interesting to the developers to have some kind of information such as log files to try and figure out if your problems get caught in there.

As long as you stay to standard settings (except for changing the panel type since having the wrong panel, if nothin else, can look real ugly.. :)) and try to give us some more info, we might figure things out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jonahs:
rwsystem, astro, estrong, still I can't edit /system

I have tried to get some rooting action going here for a short while and I've used a couple different methods to bend Astro, Estrong and rwsystem to my will, but I end up using the Terminal for editing files and folders within /system.

Terminal works without a hitch (I also get a freshing up on my Linux ninja skills doing it this way); I can edit files, copy, remove, just about everything that Terminal can do, as long as I prep the /system folder with rwsystem.

What I cannot do, however, is getting Astro or even Estrong to work with the rooted /system-folder. I've tried using Astro together with rwsystem in all ways but executing rwsystem from within Astro (is this even possible?) or starting up Astro from within Terminal (can't really figure out how to find Astro and start it from Terminal) and I get no privilege to edit /system in any way.

Estrong was my next bet, but it only supports Cyanogen and some HiAPK dist (which I haven't heard of) and using this together with rwsystem seems a no go too.

Am I missing something really crucial with the combo rwsystem+Astro here or am I simply just in bad luck? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Gribin:
May be this can help You http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5602064&postcount=1195
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
as of yet, i have been running stylez naked rom with spb mobile shell 3.5. i want to try something new. Should i wait for this to be fixed or should i just try it. I have one tilt which i use everyday. It doesn't have a data plan so all i use is wifi.

Should i wait. Or flash..it is the only phone i have btw, so if something goes wrong in screwed
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SharpieMarker:
I appreciate the concise and detailed response.

Okay, so I meant that the bash script won't unzip the tarball unless its in the root of the sd card, not in the andboot folder.

Also, I went through your instructions and followed them to a T. I installed kaisimg.nbh, and it says update successful from the tricolor screen. Then I pull the battery, wait, and then boot. I get the flash screen, and as soon as I see bash script scrolling I press and hold the center button but I never get a menu. The bash script gets as far as telling me that I don't have a rootfs.img file which is what has happened in the past.

I appreciate your help and am willing to try whatever anyone can suggest in order to get this to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] trehouse:
SD Card Question....

Still trying to figure out the details,

When I'm running from SD card, is there any way that I can save the entire current installation so that when my batt dies it's all not lost?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hyperfly:
Sometimes impossible to start Android via Haret.exe

I tried with the reformating and re creation of partitions- didn't help :(

I am using standart package (Eclair polymod 2.1a4 for SD install on FAT, with update from 19/02/2010), but I must say that any other builds (even not polymod) can cause appearence of such boot problems :(

Where I can find the log file?

I'll try to record video from my booting process and show here.

I am using default radio (1.59.42.15M) from official WM 6.1. Changing radio version will be my last chance to resolve this issue (in case if nothing helps)...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I did this but the file doesn't seem to be writeable. Anyone else tried this?

EDIT: I did get it to work using Estrongs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jonahs:
Yup, tried it and haven't been able to get it to work. You should be able to edit that file through the Terminal though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plutarcian:
BYE ALL

well after spending about 6-8 mnths on these forums, i finally bought a G1 :). but i would like to thank you all for bringing android to my tytn. you guys should really be paid by google for marketing :D

best of luck and c u around.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fultotop:
I normally copy the file to the sdcard and use Astro to edit the file, then copy it back.

to get the build.prop on to sdcard in terminal enter

cp /system/build.prop /sdcard

Find the file using Astro and tap & hold down the screen on your file this should bring up the dialog with open, select open then select as text using file editor.

then to copy back I normally enter

su
mount /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system -o rw,remount
cp /sdcard/build.prop /system

then I shutdown the phone and switch back on or pull the battery thats up to you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
anyone answer my question?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Ok back to basics, flash a stock 6.1 rom, I suggest this one: http://rapidshare.com/files/157469239/Kaiser_HTC_ASIA_HK_WWE_3.34.721.2.rar, since this one has the 1.70.19.9 radio included.

Once thats done, Format the SD card, make sure it's FAT32, try installing again, make sure you use one of the kaisimg-panelX-320-15.-2.10.nbh files from here: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D choosing either the tilt or non tilt version and panel type you need.

Hopefully this will sort out your install problems :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] trehouse:
You can give it a try. Boot from your SD card. It doesn't overwrite your WM operating system.

The donut versions booting with haret.exe are pretty easy to use once you figure out the setup.

I don't know what phone you have but this tutorial is excellent...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=628353

You'll find, as I have, that when your batt dies or you need to reboot you lose everything you've adjusted unless there's a fix. To me, it's a lot of fun to tinker with Android however I'm not quite sure if it's worth the effort on a phone I'm using day to day.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
That doesn't look right, mtdblock3 should be your data partition on NAND, mtdblock2 is system -- I don't recommend using fultotop's command. Regardless if you're running from NAND (mtdblock is internal storage) rwsystem should work for you. If rwsystem isn't working, are you on SD card partitions? Let me know your install setup if it's not working.

BTW, when your system is rw it will stay that way until you change it back or reboot -- you can enter rwsystem from Terminal, Connectbot, or ADB.

Ok, these replies are out of order but here goes:

@dyetheskin: My experimental build is stable, and the apps are separated for NAND install, use that. Otherwise just open the androidinstall.tar and remove whatever you won't use -- Bluetooth, Camera, Voice, Taskiller, Astro (and I'm sure there's more) are all safe to remove.

@gresham: Don't choose mount, just wait a couple minutes and your SD card should show up in Windows. Other users report it working just fine (a little secret addition in my build).

@trehouse: when your battery dies, nothing is lost. I'm not sure why you think anything would be...

@mehrzad8433: Flashing the .nbh shouldn't affect any of your system or data. Feel free to flash to change resolutions or to get the latest kernel updates.

@the-nj: You're using the old installer. Get the 20-Feb kernel/nbh

@SharpieMarker: I have a feeling you're still not following all the directions. Again, get the latest 20-Feb .nbh from SourceForge, the installer works perfectly.

@plutarcian: Hopefully I can help the G1 guys get 3D working for Eclair so you can be as advanced as we are :p It's been good, enjoy your new device!

@lggyxx: You do realize that this is a free forum, right? Try searching, there are TONS of answers in this thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
You can try that radio, but I recommend 1.71, as noted in the OP.

No. Use the 20-Feb .nbhs from SourceForge to get a working installer, again, as noted in the OP. I'm doing my best to help you guys but you are not following instructions!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fultotop:
polyrhythmic is correct sorry I should have noticed the error.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Honestly? If it's your only phone, I'd stick with the Haret option, it's safe, and does not delete winmo from your phone.

It's mostly safe to flash Android to Nand, but as with anything experimental, things could go wrong.

With Haret Android, you have the best of both, with only a small speed penalty, and the option to reboot to winmo at any time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
yea i guess i will wait till its perfect :-P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
"perfect" LOL :p ;) :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fultotop:
I been running the nand version since the 15-02-2010.nbh came out, and it works fine. I not tried the sd version with haret but my kaiser is not my everyday phone. So a day without it is fine.

Is their a way to fix the dialer not lower the dpi as it becomes harder to read. I've tried many different all the nbh resolutions and dpi's some do fix the problem. But nothing seems as readable as 240x320 120 dpi.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
ok maybe not perfect but stable enough..i cant have it messed up and i have to use it everyday..it just sucks my plan for att don't expire till august :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Hmm, that installer works fine for me, Still see the link to the dzo nbh's posted on OP, so assumed that was still the latest installer.

The 1.70 radio shouldn't affect the install process any, and was mostly suggested as a way to take the device back the best possible stock rom and clear out any potential problems left by other roms, since flashing stock clears everything out ready for reflashing in winmo, I assume this may help here also.

Must remember to check post one more frequently :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] trehouse:
If you aren't too picky and you can spend the time to adjust things (just like WM perhaps), phone, data and gps worked nicely for me. No issues there.

Email works with Seven (tried it last night) and there's loads of programs. If you can live with it, I'd try haret.exe first then a main memory ROM. I still may go that way.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ufo2121:
same here

Hi!

I'm having the exact same problem, same device and everything.

I already try to updta the radio to (1.59.44.02) but it didn't resolve the problem, I don´t know what else to do!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Jlmus1:
Rootfs issue

I was having the same issue with the rootfs file missing on the SD card, I was suffering from cranial inversion. Turns out

1) I had NOT formatted my SD to FAT 32, but FAT

2) I used a VOGUE .NBH instead of the Kaiser/Tilt .nbh

So in short, paying attention and using the RIGHT file will cure your rootfs needs unzipped to you SD card problem.

Hope that helps, Zenity and Polyrythmic are spot on. Thanks guys for the work!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ArvinSR:
GPRS

Hi guys (and girls),

Just installed android and its sweet. One question though, how do I connect to GPRS, I was having trouble accessing the APN page through settings. Any advice would be helpful.

Thanks:)

Figured how to do it thanks anyways.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
So no one else has had issues with commas?

If I open messaging right after booting the phone and try to type a comma, I get a popup that shows buttons for a single comma (,), a double comma (,,), and an x to cancel. If I hit the single comma then I do get one comma, but after that I can't add anymore commas until I reboot. This is all when using the hardware keyboard, by the way - I have no problems adding commas with the on-screen keyboard.

Am I the only one experiencing this?