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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Just installed and noticed the slowdown immediately, since I was used to the previous release.

Will stick with it for the meantime though, well after a little tweaking to get full system r/w abilities for messing about with libs etc.

Hopefully I'll also notice an increase in speed through use, however I wonder if it's not really a 'perceived' increase rather than an 'actual' increase in speed?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruddicks:
@j101399j

Thanks for getting back to me. I looked in the default and couldn't see what to change. I guess it is a bit deeper than my understanding goes! You are the first one to reply to me though so thanks it must be very annoying getting messages from people like me who have limited knowledge of what they are doing! I have had loads of fun over the last 48 hours though having updated radios, roms and now booting to android and updating to this one! Annoyingly, as much as I try I can not get some things to work eg writing sms using the default programme and getting it to access my contacts, installing widget apk's from tattoo onto kaiser... etc etc... keep trying!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] R3TR3C:
Tried with the androidinstall.tar from that post and it still didnt trigger the menu item to pop up. I just don't get this.:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DJSeraphim:
Hey thanks for your help, I now managed to solve half of it.

I change the tilt value to 0 and I changed paneltype from 2 to 1 and now the keyboard is correctly functioning again (for example @ = fn+q again now but thats not the only button combo that was wrong before i changed this) however I can still not force lock with powerbutton or redcell ... if i hold down the powerbutton the popup asking for shutdown etc shows up so the OS at least does recognize the button itself for the correct function but the force lock is still gone ...

Edit: Graphics are messed up now ... Pixels in wrong colors everywhere ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
@ruddicks; Send me an old default.txt file and I'll make one for you for this;

@R3TR3C;That is wierd; and I know that one works. I don't know how to use logcat, or if you can during the initial boot. But I'm sure if you ran it and someone with a lot more dev skills then me could decode it and see what may be happening.

@DJSeraphim; play around with the panel types. 0, 1, 2, 3 that works with the display.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jjblaster3:
hey guys, just throwing this out there (nt sure if it is mentioned before or not)

if u find it slow, try disabling animations(window animations) in the settings...

hope that helps :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I added this to the FAQ/Install page. Please let me know if it is not correct.

WHY SO SLOW?!?!? This is why

Form what I understand the reason this build is so slow after first boot, and why it gets faster over time is becasue of the Media Scanner. When this first loads it scans the phone and sdcard for any type of media available and then sorts it. It can take a few minutes to a few hours. So keep hope, it will get better. You can also disable animations for now to help until the scanner is done. (Thanks jjblaster3 I agree on that)

I have benn running the update since it came out and at first it was slow. Now my phone is as fast as the original 2.0.1; even with the GPS and GL kernals loaded. Well not 100%, but a lot better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idumych:
Is it just me or is Android on Kaiser severely regressing? I mean seriously, why the heck do we need to run an installer just to use Haret now? And don't even get me started about the latest NAND crap.

*is extremely frustrated in general*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
It's not regressing, it's progressing, however with so many working on it, it's becoming a little chaotic, so many different nbh versions, builds and methods.

vote yes on the android sub-forum poll and perhaps information will become more centralised, and we can work together on this, rather than cross threading :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=631510
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
Because this build is based on another build for the G1 (if you read more you should know) which can install to flash.

I find this version very slow when using with fat32.

Booting goes definatly faster after a few times, see G1 forums.

Installing this on ext2 with or without swap for optimal performance? Do you need another way to install this then when you're using only one fat32 partition.

(I have received my SD-hc cardreader).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] imsganesh:
This is an awesome build and it does gets faster as you use it.

one thing though, any idea why the battery gets heated?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slapadabass:
Maybe a discovery - I just changed my lcd resolution to j101399j's suggestion of 250x360 - *seems* to be a major speed increase after re-boot. Also, definitely fits everything better, including the full dialer keypad. However, now my text is a bit blurry. Any way to sharpen up the text?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slapadabass:
My battery gets very hot during wifi use, which I think is a known issue with Android on Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hom.hom:
People,

I have tried to install this build, but I can't I have done everything and read the extended instructions of the other thread. So my question now is, don' we miss a couple of files. Because the other builds of Android, which worked for me, have a lot more files.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Yes, this is due to the battery management drivers not being as optimised as the winmo equivalent, hopefully a better set of battery management settings will find its way onto our devices soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DJSeraphim:
Hey, I played a bit with the panel types and panel type 3 seems to fix the pixels for me (and somehow got me more speed :O ) but the force lock is still not here :(

So right now the things that differ from the version I downloaded from here is the default-gps.txt in which i changed paneltype into 3 and i changed attilt

I still had force lock before the gps and 3d kernel update, maybe that helps in deciphering the problem ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hexto:
I see MMS is listed as working on this build. I use a Vogue on Verizon Wireless and have never been able to use MMS with Android. It used to come up as "bad sms coding" but now they don't come thru at all. Can anyone here confirm that MMS is working with Verizon please? Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
@R3TR3C, @a.s.j and others having boot/partition/installer problems, can you post the bootlog.txt (and the dmesg file, if it is there) that is created in your andboot folder?

@zenity: everything you need to edit the system is already there :) su, rwsystem, rosystem, and numerous other tools in /system/bin and /system/xbin

@voyteckst: You should know by now that every build of Android may show different programs in the Marketplace. You can always edit your build.prop (this is what MarketEnabler does) or change your resolution to try to see more apps.

@aqtrans: you can use commands dumpsys power and cat /proc/wakelocks to see what is keeping your device from sleeping.

@joelmassee: Sometimes the new audio driver hangs. You can use the commands

su
killall mediaserver

from terminal or adb to kill the mediaserver service. It will restart itself automatically. I've reported the problem and am trying to find a fix.

@hom.hom: The new android means less files. We're trying to make the process easier for everyone.

This build definitely does speed up on the 2nd or 3rd boot, once Android has no more media-searching or app-installing left to do. This next update coming will make things smoother with proper init and memory management. The updated build also likes a swap partition, for those of you who would like to use one. Building the new androidupdate.tar is a little tricky, but I'll have it out ASAP.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Do you guys have network location working already?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Yaantra:
Location from tower not working

No network location for me. I am in San Francisco and the cell tower location (weather) shows me somewhere in Montgomory, GA...

Others, please comment on Location services... @polyrthymic, please let me know if i need to take any further actions to get the location service working correctly.

Otherwise great rom as usual!

Yaantra
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Seconded. No rush as usual, but I'm wondering if this is actually supposed to be working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
I can't install on ext2 partition (fat32 worked), I select install data.img on ext2 and image.img on ext2 (or something like that) and then it saids r5 ... r4 ....

edit: Think it will work now (VOGUE android message :) ), got an error message unable to open persistent property directory /data/property erno: 2, but it's possible that this is normal.

After install just take Quit/exit.

Any chance of running sygic/igo on android for now?

Otherwise I really need windows mobile.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DmK75:
I install this build, replace zImage to "GPS and 3d".

But 3d not working, Neocore shows blue/white scene.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j0d3:
Good night guys

I have the 1.65.16.25 radio, running Android from my sd and I would remove the Windows Mobile on my Kaiser and just stay with Android.

1) I have to update the radio?

2) install with hanging build and update it as you're going update.

Thanks for a great job they do!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] VulpesFoxnik:
This is so awesome. I really appreciate all the work all of you have put into this project. I'll be installing as soon as there is the NAND install finished up. So greatful to get Windows Mobile off this phone and get an Andriod device (which to this date does not have one on AT&T on my Parent's plan).

Orz.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jcatt:
@polyrithmic

Hey, I flashed the latest radio in an attempt to get the gps to work, but now it appears that my mic is no longer working in call. Should i try to do a fresh re-install all over again or what? Oh, and my gps is still not working.

Thanks for all your help,

Jonathan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nyunyu:
Just noticed that by default installation WILL NOT automatically install the provided apps in AndroidApps. This is caused by the settings that did not allow installing non-market apps. My solution is the disable that settings and reboot android again.

Eh??? Just noticed that data.img and system.img both are inside my SDCARD and not in the partition. Is it normal?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] R3TR3C:
brainblast!

Had a bit of a revalation while laying in bed. Realized that the system couldnt install if the partition size wasnt big enough. Resized to >256mb and it triggered the "Install System" option.

boo to the ya
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
This release is just to slow (even after a couple of reboots and after turning off animations with ext2). Just wait for the next release (but thanks for posting).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Don't know if you found the fix, but go to the FAQ (link in my signature) and look near the bottom under errors. There is a link that has a fresh data.img file that works and gets rid of that error

[edit]great catch R3TR3C

I just did a test run with the partitions and had them both a 160mb; and the load crashed. I removed the sdcard and the system.img and data.img files were in the andboot folder and they were both 256MB in size each. I changed the Ext2 partitions to 260MB each and it installed perfectly. I'll update the FAQ's with that soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Diznario:
Good call on bumpin the partition sizes. My EXT2 partitions were at 256/256 and I couldn't get it to install. So I just bumped them up to around 512/320 and it installed fine. Might be overkill, but it works.

Anyone have recommended partition sizes?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
can't wait for this to be fast for nand,sticking to myn's donut build for everyday use til this is worked on for performance,wifi and gps for nand with norootfs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
UPDATE 12 Feb 2010:

polymod 2.1 alpha 3 package with working init and compache now released! Major speed improvements!!

Upgrade Instructions: If you've already installed 2.1a2, grab polymod_update_2.1a2-to-2.1a3.zip. Extract the zip to your andboot folder. Launch HaRET with the installer (non-gps) default.txt. After entering the installer, choose 4. Install Update and once finished, choose 2. Fix Permissions . You can then reboot with the default-gps.txt and enjoy GPS and Hardware OpenGL acceleration!

Installing from scratch? Get the full 2.1a3 release below!

2.1a3 changelog:

Some improvements from OpenEclair 1.1.5 added

Fixed init scripts

No more hot wifi! Better wifi power settings!

Fixed missing hw3d driver (sorry y'all!)

Compcache added (ram swap only, no backing or disk swap, at least for now)

Custom userinit.conf supported for power users :) (just copy /system/etc/userinit.conf to andboot folder on your sdcard and tweak to your liking)

This is much, much faster and more stable. Alpha 3 really shows what this build should be like. While I was poking around in all the config files I fixed the hot wifi problem :) Let me know if you have any bad side-effects, I tested it for a few hours and it seemed to be much easier on battery and no more heating. Init scripts work properly Cyanogen and WesGarner style, including custom userinit.conf in andboot as noted above. If things start to really slow down, open TasKiller and kill what you're not using. I usually do a big cleanup after boot is finished.

The next update will be polymod 2.1 beta, the AOSP 2.1r2 source has been released, and CyanogenMod and OpenEclair have been updated. 2.1 beta will be a full wipe with major improvements to the central system. Facebook full sync is working for the beta release. The next release is more optimized but I have more testing to do to get it stable. Alpha 3 I think is stable enough if y'all want port it to NAND. You will probably need my initrd changes, so PM me if you have any questions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dyetheskin:
PM me when this is ported to nand and any updates to it :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
SO...network location...should it be working for me? Yes/no?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeesP:
Can somebody tell me wich program i need to get android on my HTC touch cruise?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hom.hom:
Guys,

I have tried anything what is said on this thread, but I can't get it to work. Because it keeps saying failed to find system.img, could someone post a video of the first boot or a link to it.

Thanks:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] R3TR3C:
Glad I could help! :D

Did you read the instructions or JJs FAQ? Hold the VolDn or Camera button {depending on your phone} after haret.exe launches the android installer
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruddicks:
Seamless update! Much quicker, very easy to use. My GPS runs but still does not find my location. It hasn't on any of the installs though but does work on the win 6.5 partition so not broken!

Great work again thank you!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] R3TR3C:
Quick question:

Android now installs and updates fine but when I run default-gps.txt my kaiser goes through a seemingly endless process where the boot says the same thing over and over "android_power: wakeup (0->0) at (increasing number) ...etc"

and the number in brackets to the left (eg. [565.123312]) is also increasing.

It's been 30 or so minutes of just those numbers going up. Is this normal?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hom.hom:
Hello,

Did you read the instructions or JJs FAQ? Hold the VolDn or Camera button {depending on your phone} after haret.exe launches the android installer.

Yes, I have done that, but I don't get the option to install. The installer start with 2. Fix permissions. I really want this build to work please HELP.....:confused:

Is there a file extra I need to downlaod or something, because I only use what is in that zip file in the link.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
Rather no. Update works fine. My location also works.

Only thing that is strange is that fix permissions doesn't find app_s. Also trying to reinstall app_s from tar is not possible - but android works, so this no problem for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] R3TR3C:
That means your partition size isnt bigger than the minimum 512mb needed to hold the system.img and data.img files. Optimal size should be anything above 256mb for each ext2 partition if your doing it that way. Otherwise just use a FAT32 formatted SD card that is atleast somewhat greater than 512mb
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yazoo:
Hi, I don't know if someone else had this problem, but I noticed it from alpha 1 to alpha 3. After some time of working with android, when I start the Phone app, I get this error:

and of course, since this is the core, after some loading I come back to the home screen.

What should I dump in the forum if someone wants to solve the problem.

P.S.: not sure, but I think it happens when I open the hardware keyboard, but quite not sure ...

best regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
anyone noticed a difference in speed bewteen using fat32 and ext2?

Can you install applications on the fat32 drive when using ext2 or fat32 method (using manual install)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pingels:
return to homescreen slow?

1. open Spare Parts

2. scroll to the last option/setting

3. check the box to keep home app in memory.

4. done!

...but the huge increase in return to homescreen may also be attributed to Poly's awesome alpha 3...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
Yes, I think it is much faster.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yazoo:
If this was answer to me, I think the problem is not the speed at which it goes back to the home, but that the core of the Android OS crashes. (and thus until it re-loads itself is slow - logically ;) )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
@hom.hom;

Are you using Ext2 paritions? And if you are what size are your partitoins when you get the missing Install system?

@yazoo; I think you need to run a logcat. Unfortunatuly I don't know how that works, so maybe if someone who better knowlegde then me can help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] reiteravi:
i have this issue

on polaris

after installin 2.1.a3 ok

i change to default-gps

and after a long time i get the force close

but the touch screen is irresponsive
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yazoo:
Edit, here is the error:

...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jeanpiere:
Live walpapers

Hey poly, great build, fast and stable.

1 quick question, though, any chance of us getting live wallpapers to work?? tried installing a few from the market, but cant seem to find a way to activate them as the "live wallpaper" string is missing from the wallpapers menu. This would be really great since we have opengles support already. . .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chourmovs:
A lot of problems here using this rom on polaris 100 sdcard

it is very slow and system become stable at the end after 2 or 3 processes stop (it can take 10 minutes).

even after that, system is very slow and touchscreen sometime unresponsive

I killed every running program using taskkiller or taskbar, but system remain slow

I tried some options in the dev's section that increase performance a little, i activated swap and limit number of running processes

On the other side, i've got gps and 3g working, unlike donut's rom

So i'll definitively try your next release

Thank you polyrythmic, i suscribe ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] reiteravi:
mine is pol200

first install is just fine

only using the zImage-kaiser-3d isnt coming up right

i suspect its the opengl driver
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
@Pandemic187: Network Location works for me about 75% of the time. The 25% it doesn't work I'm not sure why yet. I've caught NetworkLocation crashing a couple times when it got data it didn't expect... I've got more testing to do. I also suspect that the GPS and WiFi tests I do have an impact. It seems that if you jump on a WiFi network that Google knows the location of, or if you get a GPS fix, NetworkLocation caches that as your position until you move a significant distance (i.e. change cell towers, get a new GPS lock, jump on a new wifi network) -- which may give me the illusion of NetworkLocation working properly. I appreciate any feedback about cell-tower location so I can get it definitely working.

AGAIN, to ALL having boot/partition/installer problems, can you post the bootlog.txt (and the dmesg file, if it is there) that is created in your andboot folder after an unsuccessful boot?

To polaris users: Thanks for using my build, I'm sorry it's having some trouble with your devices. I don't have a Polaris to test on so I have to work from your feedback.

@yazoo: Can you provide me with any more lines from the log of the crash? I suspect it's the Dalvik JIT compiler having problems, I haven't personally seen Dalvik issues with Alpha 3 but OpenEclair 1.2 reverts back to the Donut compiler for stability. If you don't mind losing your data, try a full wipe and reinstallation... the update process is new and might not be perfect yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
@polyrhythmic

How can I tweak build.prop? In this file, sdk version is 7 and I wanted to find app which also has sdk set to 7...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chourmovs:
you probably right, i boot on kaiser zimage too

i'll try the other zimage in nandboot folder

keep in touch polaris buddy :D