yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
you can use the latest build for testing. just turn on "Allow GSM Location" and select "Where Am I?" about every 50 meters. and see if your position changes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] loox-user:
Hey Cipher,

I just checked your official homepage, which btw. looks good.

I am a bit confused about your requirements section and would propose some changes:

- You state that your application needs Windows Mobile 6+ Professional, while it runs perfect on my Pocket Loox n560 with Windows Mobile 5. Is there any reason, why you recommend WM6 or did you just not test it with older versions? Well if the latter ist the case, I offer to be your beta tester for WM5: it works perfect ;-)

- You recommend GPS and Internet connection in your requirements section. This is a bit misleading as some people might think that you can't use the application without GPS or internet connection. Which isn't totally true. I myself use it without internet connection by pre-downloading all necessary tiles in advance with one of the above mentioned tile downloaders. I can even think of a bunch of use cases where you don't even need GPS and use the application just like an old style paper map.

I propose to split your requirements section in seperate requirements and recommendations sections. This prevents people not taking a closer look at the application because they think that they don't match the requirements, while they could still use it with just a limited set of features.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Thanks for the hints. Done. ;)

Indeed, I didn't test it with older Windows Mobile versions. But I guess the only important thing is .NET CF 3.5.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
There is a new build available on the official download page for OpenMobileMaps. Though, it's only a nightly build that I just compiled.

Here are the changes in short:

v1.1.3717.4104 (nightly build)

- completely rewritten GSM positioning including circle calculation

- switch between mph and km/h

- Status and Controls on/off moved back to context menu for faster access

- counting data sent/received over internet connection
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] illi:
Great! Been waiting for an update for a while.

Thank you for sharing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
There is a new nightly build available, which should be equivalent to version 1.1.3673.41233 in terms of functionality plus a few extras...

For the last three days I've been working on some major changes in the code of OpenMobileMaps. The results of my hard work should be more stability, completely redesigned gui and a way better code structure.

This will be a good basis for future developments.

I probably won't be able to find more time until end of march to do anything else, but I wanted to share my latest efforts with you.

So, download the latest nightly build on the official OpenMobileMaps homepage and give me some feedback on it.

Be aware: it's a nightly build! Which means: it compiles, it runs and i tested some parts by myself - but it's not fully tested and there probably will be some bugs in it...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Ok, here is quick update for the last nightly build. In v1.1.3719.32582 (nightly build) I optimized the performance (responsiveness) of the new GUI.

Also, there was a bug when using a GPS device and opening the Settings of OMM - the GUI got stuck. So, this is fixed, too.

And there is a new About window, where you can check if you've got the latest version!

Have fun with v1.1.3719.32582 (nightly build) !!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
okay...now i am really going to learn for my exams...and v1.1.3720.33048 should be the last nightly build for the next 2 weeks (if no serious bug comes up).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] illi:
Good luck with your exams:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
thanks, and have a look at the first page... ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] glaucos:
I have a lots of tiles saved in a folder called \Scheda di memoria\OSM\osmarender\Torino\####: if I set to use it (from the settings or manually editing the file ommconfig.xml) I have alway a subfolder called "osmcache" (so I can't use the already downloaded tiles).

This seems to be hard-coded in the executable...

Is it possible to remove it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mobiljoe:
perfect !!!

Perfect, the software works excellent. Route calculation, GSM or GPS, Where I am, everything works great.

I have a little question about the search:

How does the search function? :confused:

Example:

1. Bad Soden am Taunus => 1 result 63834 Soden, DE (But I seek 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus)

2. Frankfurt => several results, but Frankfurt am Main is missing.

How must enter it correctly?

Can I translate it somewhere completely (German or English)

First of good luck with your exams.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] frmariam:
Somewhat off topic...

Would you be wiling to make a small (cmd based) app to toggle the GPS state...

Something that could maybe stay running in the background and output the connection status (disabled, conecting, conected) and number of satalites to the reg?...

I think it would be an awesome tool to use with Mortscript (for instance wait for position fix before launching a certain program).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
right now "osmcache" is hardcoded and there is no way to change it. in future versions it will be possible to change the url from which the tiles are downloaded and to switch between different folders with tiles.

for now you can only overwrite the data in osmcache with your own tiles if you want to use your pre-downloaded tiles.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] glaucos:
Thanks! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
i am also a little bit confused about the search results. i'll investigate on that..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
i am not exactly sure what you mean.

what would the cmd based app have to do (or in common) with OpenMobileMaps?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dtrieb:
Hey http://omm.mine.nu/ is down ??? :confused:

I can't load the new version. :mad:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] frmariam:
Sorry... I said it was offtopic :o

It wouldn't use OpenMobileMaps... Just part of the GPS related functions you used while developing this app.

I asked because you seem very active and are developing a GPS related app. That app is something that doesn't exist afaik and would allow for some cool stuff (small cmd apps are always useful for Today screen theming and doing scripts).

Hope you didn't get mad with this cheecky request...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dtrieb:
And can you program an update Check?

So it would be easy to download the next version!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] glaucos:
Maybe APPTODATE from Modaco :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
an update check is already integrated. just go to "About" and click on "Check for updates..."

the next thing I will build in is the option to automatically download the latest "cab" and install it if you wish to...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
i don't think that I need a special framework to download a cab from a server... ;) besides the version check is finished already...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
just try again 5 minutes later if doesn't work for you right now. the website is on my own homedns server, so maybe it just needed an dyndns update or so...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] glaucos:
Sorry... ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Due to lack of time I'm not able to start any further projects... Sorry..

Nothing to be sorry for.. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dtrieb:
Okay now i works all fine.

One Idea:

Can you store the "Adress Search" strings or make favorite streets(places)

so so can find you importent adress more quickly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Yes, don't worry. Until now I've been working on the functional part of the address search. The next on my ToDo-List is usability. The address search window will be re-designed in next versions.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Masterface7:
Maybe when the phone is in motion you could pull 2 data entries from the GPS and use them to orient the map in the direction of travel? Not sure if it is possible but Garmin Mobile does it somehow on my old vogue.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
i surely could implement a compass if i had a phone with a compass feature. :(

on the other hand: the problem with rotating the map is that the labels on streets etc. would be rotated, too. this could affect readability.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zen kun:
this looks pretty nice :D i will try it,

this can be run offline? or just online? if run offline

since there is no detailed maps in my country im wondering if i can use google tiles?

i will try download with gmaker to see if i can use it :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Masterface7:
True if might be hard to read stuff but maybe only during turn by turn navigation, if you ever decide to put that in, it might be beneficial to have the map oriented with the direction of travel up so the driver doesn't really need to think about which direction the turn is actually. Also I wish the TP2 had a compass it would make Geocaching much better with my phone.

Also, I wanted to say thanks for the hard work I just found this app via it being on the xda home page and I am pretty excited about trying it out after work today. I have been jonesing for a replacement of the 2 default map programs on windows mobile.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
if a tile is not found in /osmcache folder, then it tries to download it.

address search, route calculation and gsm locationing is also done online. no way to cache this, yet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Anyway, navigation is a feature I do have on my list. Thanks to OpenRouteService I am able to get instructions. It's just a matter of time until I implement it... ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zenkinz:
will this have the digital compass support? and if so, will it rotate the map based on the orientation of the compass?

if not, will this be included in the near future release?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
again: i need a phone with a compass to develop this feature...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] knudmand:
Older OpenMobileMaps version v1.1.3673.41233 is better

The new v1.2.3722.269 is slow to respond, creating strange, sudden backlog movements on the map. Namely the new zoom slider seems very slow to respond and is in any case inferior to the simple two screen finger buttons of ”+” and ”-”. Movements around are also strangely jumpy compared to the older version.

Hence I am sorry to say that I have reinstalled the older version even though it tends to crash from time to time.

Using Toshiba TG01 (Note the TG01 has a fast CPU...)

/Knudmand
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
well, good to hear that the new version does not crash.

the zoom slider is not really finished, yet. for the next nightly build i am going to optimize it.

optimizing map movements is on my todo-list as well. but right now i am concentrating on new features so optimization has lower priority until the most important features are in it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
I released a new nightly build.

for those of you who already had the latest nightly build: please try out the new self-update function and tell me if it works!

I removed the transparency effects on the zoom slider and status text in map view to improve overall GUI performance.

please tell me what you think about that decision!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] illi:
The osmcache folder is now back to SDCard instead of in the Program Files folder. I prefer my sdcard to be organised. Can you revert to like the one version before this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
i didn't change anything on that. after the first start OMM asks you where to cache files. maybe you clicked on "Storage Card" instead of "Application Folder".

you can try to edit the config xml or just delete it, so it will ask you again the next time you start OMM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] big_hkkid:
Encounted the following problem when installing v1.2.3725.24162 (nightly build) on my WM6.0 device.

"The file 'OenMobileMps' cannot be opened. Either it iss not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file.

Please fix it. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] surfturtle:
I have been using cooked ROMs for so long now that I can't even remember. Only very recently have I been forced to use official ROMs becuase of unavailability of HardSPLs.

I have only had this issue with two devices the Touch Pro2 and Imagio but i'm pretty sure that it happens with other models also.

Error examples:

'a problem has occurred with fexplorer.exe'

'a problem has occurred with services.exe'

I am a flash freek and every time I load about 100+ games and about 150+ applications so before everyone starts saying that when you load so many softwares something bad is bound to happen. I have already considered that but here is why i thing the problem is with official ROMs.

- I flashed official ROM and hard reset

- I first left out all the games and only installed the applications but the problem was still there.

- I then split the applications in half and after another hard reset tried with first batch and problem was there. I hard reset and also tried the second batch and problem was there.

- I am not so desperate an i am installing softwares one at a time and then testing for 10-15 mins and then installing the next software to pinpoint the problem.

even with the last approach I cannot pinpoint which software is causing the problem. Sometimes the phone crashes after 10 applications installed and sometimes after I reach 40 applications.

Now some of you will ask and suggest if maybe the problem is with the softwares. Most of the softwares I have are from freewarepocketpc.net but how can it be the software when all these softwares are the same ones that I have been using without any issues on Cooked ROMs for months and not a single crash on the Cooked ROMs.

I have been scratching my head and trying to figure out what is that secret ingredient in the Cooked ROMs that make them so stable and what can we do to make our official ROMs stable.

At one point I though Microsoft .NET Compact Framework was the culprit and so I tired several times with and without it installed and the problem was still there so I ruled it out.

I also tried installing SDK certs on the official ROM but that did'nt fix it either.

Help me out here guys, what am I missing, whats that Secret Ingredient in the cooked ROMs that make them so stable?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] shadowline:
Fairy dust, us cooks sprinkle a little over the rom in the building process and it makes them super stable. :D

Personally I have never had those two errors on a stock rom. Might I ask which brand of those phones are you using? (aka, is it an AT&T, Telstra, Verizon, etc.) Sometimes (make that 99% of the time) the carrier's version of a rom is THE WORST there can be, causing problems like that.

With that note out of the way, you have tried using it without installing anything for a bit to see if the problem still persists right? If not, it could be one, or more likely more than one application is causing it to die.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] serfer222:
the secret words for tonight are

"disable error reporting in your ROM"

most of cooks use this secret weapon.

=)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] surfturtle:
For Verizon Imagio i've used the official shipped ROM

I also had the same problem on the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 with its shipped WM6.1 ROM and once the HardSPL came out, i tried with the European Pro2 WM6.5 Official ROM and that also had same problem.

Yes I tried using the ROMs without any softwares and they work just fine. So that brings me to the conclusion that the softwares that I am installing are causing this but the problem is how to pinpoint which softwares and if it turns out that a wide variety of softwares are causing this (my suspicion) then why is it happening only with official ROMs and not cooked ones?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] surfturtle:
Does this mean that windows mobile is so unstable that the only way to fix it is to give an illusion of stability by disabling the error reporting?

Say it isn't so, I love WM and if things are so bad with it then I have nowhere else to go.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jwzg:
We have a winner!:D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] surfturtle:
Thanks

After thinking about it a few minutes I get it now. I am shocked that I spent over week testing hundreds of softwares one by one when I could have just disabled the reporting. Thanks for the secret ingredient, i'll give it a go and report back in 1-2 days how my ROM is responding. I can already notice a slight increase in speed.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sonus:
I know this is blashphemy on XDA, but I have the opposite issue. I've never encountered a cooked ROM as bug free as a stock ROM. Maybe this is b/c I've never bought a carrier phone and always gone for the unbranded, unlocked device, so I've had a clean stock rom to start off with... But with every cooked ROM I've tried (and to be fair, I don't flash regularly like I used to - so maybe things are getting better), there's always something wrong even if its a minute detail like text out of place on some screen hidden away in settings that most users don't find, or lost functionality of special buttons in oem programs like Opera (that most XDAers don't know about b/c they flash the first day they get the device), or lack of proper support for landscape, or improper bluetooth implementations where A2DP doesn't work like it used to, etc.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jwzg:
I think a lot of cooks are very short-sighted on these issues. I have a habit of testing every button, every program and every feature multiple times before a ROM goes out the door, and I still miss things. Many of the factory ROM's I've used are bad in this regard as well (my Fuze connecting to a secured WiFi network for one). Cutting off the error reporting doesn't really do that much, but I've had crashes before where I had to turn it on to find a bug that was stopping the ROM from working.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Taninpv:
Dizzy looking at ...

Man, I got dizzy by looking at your avatar. :D:eek::eek::eek:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jwzg:
Everyone says that.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Ned1968:
I'm looking for some decent/fun/'cool' apps for my HD2 and would be grateful for any advice!

I've looked in the obvious places (handango, freewarepocketpc, pocketgear, 1800pocketpc, Windows Marketplace) and to be honest there's not that much there. Perhaps being the only WinMo phone with capacitive screen and not released in the US yet means it's too early to expect much. (I've had my phone in the UK for 3 weeks now).

Eg

1. Astronomy - something that uses the G sensor and GPS to detect position and orientation of the phone and shows the relevant star field (I'm jealous of Google Sky Maps for Android!)

2. Music - piano or guitar simulator

3. anything that uses the motion or other sensors?

Thanks!!

Ned
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kaemon:
For Astronomy you either have

Pocket Stars (which use GPS to adjust the map) : http://www.nomadelectronics.com/

or TheSky Pocket Edition, which is really really good : http://www.bisque.com/sc/shops/store/thesky-pocket.aspx

I bet those 2 are the best astronomy softwares for PDA.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] funmacher:
I´m looking forward to an GPS Tram, Train etc. plan program like for iPhone!?

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] lancelot54:
Use Metro for it. It's free.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] devilman_396:
How can I create a rom with Windows Mobile 6.5 for this device?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] devilman_396:
Can anybody help me?
[General Questions and Answers] allwires:
I was wondering if anyone knows a real answer for this. How easy would it be to cook in something that would send back your email login and password? Or other logins to stuff like banking sites. The people who make the roms seem to be hard working enthusiasts, but it still makes me nervous.

The reason I am asking this is because WM6.1 seems pretty buggy and slow and I was hoping that maybe updating to 6.5 would help, however Sprint is being super slow and vague (as usual) about if they will ever release an official rom.

And please no "then just don't use custom roms" replies. I am just hoping someone has some way to show that they are safe and then I will happily use it!
[General Questions and Answers] firefly123:
I was wondering the same thing. I don't use any cooked rom for anything banking related for this possible risk.
[General Questions and Answers] stylez:
I know there are other threads that have the answer but can't find them maybe someone hid them?

Anyway what would the average chef gain, second of all how do you know a member of Opera or IE is not taking down your details or even Bill? "by that i mean there is more to worry about"

My point being chefs cook ROMs to give users better phones than stocks... Also the world of WM isn't laden with virus's/spyware so even doing so would be hard and no one would be bothered to spend there time considering how much time cooking consumes.

Just Hard-SPL your device and start flashing :D
[General Questions and Answers] galaxys:
I find cooked roms are the best! They are tweeked, customized, optimized, flexable, etc. Happy Flashing :)
[General Questions and Answers] smokestack76:
Im still leary. Im going to wait until you all flash...then i will know its safe :D
[General Questions and Answers] FloatingFatMan:
If any chef here did anything as dumb as that, I guarantee you everyone would know in VERY short order what was done, and that chef would be hung up by his ankles and verbally flogged by everyone here.

Trust me, it's never happened here, and it's not GOING to happen; because we have a great community here with great chefs who do nothing but make life better for everyone else. Choose a ROM, flash it, and quit being so paranoid.
[General Questions and Answers] qqa92:
That is a very argumentative answer to a very simple and valid concern that allwires has regarding the security of using cooked rom's. Some people that use these rom's like to use their device's web capabilities for banking and for storing personal information and he brings up a very valid question regarding the safety of using these rom's for these purposes. Then you insult the poster by saying he or she is being paranoid when we all know that the capabilities for wrong doing via viruses and other malicious software are very valid concerns in this day and age. I would like to hear an intelligent and informative answer to this question since I'm sure as this sort of thing becomes more mainstream as it is bound through time to become there will be many more inquiries made as to the safety of their usage.
[General Questions and Answers] deedee:
I'm with FloatingFatMan here, any cook daft enough to do such a thing to a ROM would very quickly be found by his peers, tried, convicted and summarily thrown to the lions.

For all that how do we know Messrs Gates, Jobs, well their minions anyway :) , and other sundry "professional" ROM cooks are not hiding sneaky payloads in?