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[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] saijao:
What made people believe its the storage card?

I am sceptical that its access would cause this level of drain but in the interests of not being pig-headed in my assumptions I will make a simple winmo app to read + write from the card/Diamond Internal storage 8 times a second to see if there is heat up or battery drain.

Ill post findings after I test it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
Just though I would give an update to some people on Build(Date: Fri Feb 19 18:57:25 2010 +0100 )

Running on Fuze just using zimage and modules

Wifi build from 02/08 build

Fuze is cool to the touch until use of wifi witch crashed the system on turn off.

No errors until I tried GPS on google maps.

Bootup is quick with no animation.

Will do some more testing with apps and app store to make sure phone stays cool.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] saijao:
If any1 else would like to test here is the quick and dirty program I made, It reads and writes 7kb of nonsense to/from either My Device,Internal Storage or Storage Card every 125 ms.

It requires .net cf , just run the exe on the device.

Please post any power consumption findings you make.

I have only started running it but Ill post if I notice any power probs.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] saijao:
I have been running this for about an hour, accessing the auxiliary storage does not affect battery life (well for 8 r+w ops per second anyway).

@ least its been tested so we can rule it out.

the 20 mins coding was worth it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
He is talking about the Android folder on your SD card. If you go into it, it has a data folder and a file. I just deleted the entire Android folder and rebooted. All is well.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Instinct64:
Stuck In Sleep / Unresponsive During / After SOME Calls.

Build ID: htc-msm-android@20100219_030507

Phone: Diam100 (P3700)

About 1/4 the time after calls or during calls the phone gets stuck in a state where you can continue talking, but trying to hang up using the buttons on the phone, or trying to resume the display becomes impossible. The phone LED shows that it is in deep sleep by showing the "charging" light glow.

** For me this is the single biggest problem with XDAndroid at the moment. It often forces me to have to reset my phone after a call.

I noticed someone has posted what seems to be the same issue on the blackstone device, I have tried registering for the bugtracker however have not received a activation email.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] phhusson:
You're trying to get back from deep sleep with the power button and anything else I hope ?

If so, then provide logs.

Blac has another, way bigger, problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Instinct64:
Yes with the power button, and when that doesn't work ive tried pressing hang up, and then power button but It wont even hang up the call let alone resume from sleep.

Are there instructions anywhere one how to get the logs? Is it a case of just booting into windows and getting them off the SD card after its happened ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] XERO_Racer:
has production been halted??
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Instinct64:
There are regular build updates still, you can update your device to these if you like, they may however not be as stable as releases posted on the first post in this forum:

http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] bigfatdude:
Keyboard repeat rate

Is there an easy way to turn down the keyboard repeat rate and increase repeat delay? I often get multiple letters from a single key tap.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Switcher05:
It seems to be working perfect except for wifi, i can turn it on and off and connect to my wifi but once connected it disconnects after about 30 seconds or so. Not even staying on long enough to load market terms and conditions. Is there any solution to this? I have wiped the entire package with no results. Im using a Alltel CDMA Touch pro
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] freaksey:
is there a way to check if openGL hardware is running?

because i started touchflow3d in winmo before, but in android everthing is still very very laggy. i thought the hardware accerlation would kill this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] stinebd:
Haha. It's not a factory. :D

Production hasn't actually started... everybody is still doing development.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] XERO_Racer:
well i use different terms :p

what i meant is has development been halted or is there a suprise coming for us? :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] phhusson:
There is not much things to do in userland, only kernel has to be updated (and it is updated almost daily).

Sometimes it might happen rootfs is updated (see http://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/ ), but that's really rare.

(Although I'll need a brand new release for rhod's wifi, but that's another story)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Critical_Impact:
This, my 2d interface always seems to lag quite a bit, especially when pulling up the drawer. Is this the same for everyone?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] siulmagic:
if you want smooth menus download and use donut, elcair still needs optimization, and no hw3d will not help with the menu
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
Update on Build(Date: Fri Feb 19 18:57:25 2010 +0100 )

Battery is amazing. just as good if not better then stock WinMo.

I have had the system on for a good 3-4hours now. Still cool to the touch.

I have not used the phone at all but will give it a full minor test tomorrow.

What I mean is I will use it for a phone purpose only

Phone calls

Texting

Email.

I have installed a battery widget to let me know what is going on.

Currently off

GPS

WIFI

Bluetooth.

Quick update to this. I just played around in the market for less then 2min and the phone is getting a little warm. So as of right now looks like if you are not heavy downloading/uploading and just using the phone for a phone it seems pretty stable.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Dunnera:
where did you read that?

and who wrote this?

man thats fantastic!

when is it possible to get that update?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
Where did I read what?

These are my personal Experiences with my HTC Fuze running a specific build on my andriod.

I am using the last build from the 02/19 and wifi from the 02/08 build. Like I said it works fine just as a regular phone but once you start using something that take connecting to the internet(minus email) it starts to get hot. The good thing though is once your are done on whatever thing you are using it will cool back down.

BTW I have had no error messages minus me trying to see if GPS is working on goolge maps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Dunnera:
oh sorry my bad.

I thought a developer wrote that somewhere

unfortunately that build isnt available for diam 100....
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] phhusson:
?!?

There is no recent (ie after circa november 2009) build available for raph that is not available for diam100
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Dunnera:
i know

but he means a cdma build
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] phhusson:
cdma diam100 ?!?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Dunnera:
nope

raph 500

can i also run the new build for diam500 also on my diam100?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] phhusson:
Don't know, but AkumaMax has a fuze, which is a gsm raph, not a raph500
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Dunnera:
so i can use the same build as he, can´t I?

and where can i find the new build from 02/19?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Dunnera:
--double-post
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
I think some of these people have lost their minds. As far as I know if there is a build for one device there is the same build for all devices. Am I wrong on this?

you can find the autobuild Zimage link on the first page. I think it is in the first post last link. Look for the 08/02 build and it'll say autobuild. Now just letting you know it might not be the same for other phones.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] phhusson:
cdma have (used to have? I have to ask.) a different tree because of some conflicts
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
Thats what I thought all builds are the same minus CDMA devices.

Dang rolled out 2 new builds eh. Will have to test those out sometime tonight. Going to test drive my current build. It has been sitting here on my desk charging all night and still cool to the touch.

BTW full charge notification works with the LED's. Both the Make call button and end call buttons stay lit as well as the circle.

When using anything battery likes to jump around not much just a few percent but when you are done it goes back.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] chamonix:
Full Tests

As there seem to be many opinions about battery life and what is good what is bad here my summary for Eclair 08.02 and recent Kernel:

I observed a battery life of 16,5 hrs and that is for me enough for daily usage. No breaking news, has been like this for a while now but it seems not everyone is aware of that :D.

Full test report: http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/boards/1/topics/show/142
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vilord:
raph500 is very different from all the others... different memory qty, different cpu, etc... cdma sprint is very similar to gsm, but cdma vzw is different animal.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] IceBone:
For anyone wanting more home screens, search the market for launcher+. It only gives you more screens (up to 7), without any extra junk.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Skaryd:
For me, the battery life is approximately third or half of W6.5 life. Somewhere around 14-16.

That bothers me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] siulmagic:
thats about average right now, wait till eclair get's optimized/battery stuff
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Skaryd:
I hope so. I love the system. Very good work from the builders. R e s p e c t.

1 - btw, does the D-pad blink for everyone? Just like it does when you are charging? Is it supposed to blink non stop?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] phhusson:
Don't expect much about that.

AFAIK no dev is no more interested in PM now (well, just fixing rhod). There might be some improvements if someone see something that can be easily done, but that's all.

We already have a longer battery life than windows mobile for standard smartphone usage (meaning at least push mail). That's really enough for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
This was posted earlier, something about the phone breathing when in deep sleep... :confused: I kind of think it's kool...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] IceBone:
It's been answered at least every 20 pages. It's the deep sleep indicator. If your phone is not doing that, then it's not sleeping properly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Skaryd:
Aha, thanks for the replies i must say i didnt know how to formulate the search so i didnt try. Sorry.

Yes, i must say for brutal usage it really holds longer then WM. I just wonder why it doesnt hold longer on "not so brutal" usage. :-)

Still thanks for the development. Now only GPS :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] dk103213:
Still working?

This hasnt been updated since the 8th---

Are they still working on it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] butterdori:
I'm confused... the battery on my android diamond is nowhere near reliable as on the WM one..

It is not uncommon to see the battery drop from 50% to something like 8% almost immediately..
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
See above post...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] saijao:
Using Donut with a new kernel?

Hi Guys,

I was wondering do you know how to get Donut working correctly with a new Kernel?

It seems that the screen calibration is quite off (in some places calibration is inverted and in others the calibration point is to the south west of where it should be)

Many thanks :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Haasan:
Is here good the question on Kernel?

Following Log seems to be output and not to be charged the battery well.

htc-msm-android@20100222_004430

"W/BatteryStatsImpl( 1203): Couldn't get kernel wake lock stats"

1203 is like System_server.

"1203 1000 219m S system_server"

Can I solve this situation?

thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Hemant:
I second that. I am using TP Raph100 and i get the battery at max 4 hours that too without any push emails or any data working off the background. It might be that my battery is really old now about 15-16 months has gone over 500 recharge cycles.

But i am quite surprised that others can hit a mark up of 10+ and a bit sad that i cant get it myself. Hehe cant complain too much i guess. Thanks for your work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
This all depends on the build you are using. I was in the same boat as you guys with my Fuze. Now with the Last build on 02/19 I get 7+hours that is just using the phone and playing some games as well as having push email. no heavy internet usage.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] AkumaMax:
You have to look and fully read the first post. They update the Zimage and wifi on a different site instead of clogging up this thread with every build. Just makes it much easier.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] kholk:
If you see the android splash screen at boot (the "X" of Nexus One) you've got HW3D acceleration, it's simple! :D

Anyway, I've got my girlfriend's Diamond for seeing the development state of Android on DIAM(300) as my Diamond got stolen...

She is now using my HTC HD2 and you should understand the state of my heart XD

Already said that I'll give my support for Leo Android... supported this Diamond project when I had my old Diamond... and now that I'm running (only for a day! :P) Android on my gf's Diamond I'm proud to say that I can report my experience with the latest eclair build on DIAM300 (and remember that the last build that I've tried when I had got a Diamond was from october 2009):

(Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:59):

*- Android boots successfully

*- The capacitive panel for buttons is working correctly now, but it would be great to see an implementation for multitouch gestures on this panel, like pinch to zoom (Android supports it as seen on NexusOne!)

*- All the buttons are mapped correctly and are working flawlessly

*- The Accelerometer/G-Sensor is working correctly and can rotate screen automatically

*- Backlight control is working (in WM6.5.5 is set to auto)

*- HW3D acceleration is working (but needs to be initialized in WM6.5.5, 23540, Eugenia Project for HTC Touch Diamond)

*- BUT the whole system is very very slow compared to the last build that I've tried (Oct, 2009). Maybe it's for ramzswap that is swapping too much?

*- Calls and SMS are working flawlessly, but slow.

*- Android keyboard works, but slow.

*- Deep sleep state is working correctly and it shuts down ARM11, as stated by LEDs under the capacitive panel (the phone "breaths" :P)

Very good work guys! I'm surprised for the state of development on Diamond!

In my opinion, the development should focus on:

Priority N.1: Camera! (I know that there's something strange on the communication between the OS and the Camera even having the correct modules for this :( )

N.2: Speed!!! (Eclair is really slow on doing all tasks, even opening the messages program or making a call!)

N.3: Flash on NAND. (This should solve some speed problems because loading the system from NAND and swapping on InternalStorage would use two different chips and it would be a lot faster)

And for "Priority N.3" I mean that.. your work on this is really good, I know what means porting Linux on a PPC with Qualcomm chipsets.. Solving camera and speed problems would result in a daily usable system and I'll never stop to say that this is really near to the perfection.

I'll never stop to thank you for your hard work on this, even if I haven't got a Diamond anymore.

Sincerely,

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Hemant:
Akuma,

Thanks for your response but could you direct me to the 02/19 build. I am using the latest kernel as of today and it still i dont have much luck with the battery and it might be as i said earlier being too old. But still great work and the hard work of the progammers are much appreciated.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] sincity2k:
Latest zImage

I'm running the latest zImage from the glemson site. It boots up and everything looks pretty good. Though I do not get hw3d to work anymore. It did work in the latest build on the first page but with these newer build I do not get the boot animation. And I can't use the labrinth game in 3d mode?

I have sense 2.5 running in win mo and I even run a 3d app, what am I missing?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Mr_stickz:
just run the Diamond VR Hologram program and goto file explorer and start haret.exe thats how it worked for me...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] phhusson:
Try this donut build, I think I fixed touchscreen calibration in it:

http://htcandroid.xland.cz/Android1.6-14.02.10.7z

Which board and which kernel ?

1.HW3D doesn't work in current glemsom's kernel.

2.Even on proper kernel, only VGA devices are supported.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] stevesuk:
I'm running on the original HTC Diamond (DIAM100?).

Have been installing the latest zImage files, and apart from the obvious issues (like the camera not working), its getting better and better all the time. Battery life seems to be improving too.

One issue I've noticed is that it will run for hours and hours without any issues when the phone is in one location (ie. in my house).

But if I take it out the house, for example on a car journey, it reboots fairly often. I wonder if its a problem with moving between cell towers, or moving in to areas with no cell reception that is causing the reboot?

Anyone else experienced this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] wilsun:
Topaz running fail...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] phhusson:
I'm using this exact build on my rhod, could you be more specific ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] KoolTurk:
booting Android on an ext2/ext3 partition

I just installed ubuntu (kovsky) on a partition (extracted the contents of ext2 image) on my sd card. made 3 partition 1:fat32 2:ext3 3: swap(512MB)

I get the command prompt after the OS loads, type startx but I am stuck on a black screen (backlit is on) I am fascinated how fast it actually loads, but how come Android takes almost 4 minutes? :))

is there a way to install Android on an ext2/3 partition on SD card? Will it make boot up process faster?

I used the tutorial on omniubuntu. changed start.txt to fit raph100, this is exciting but, even the OS loads in GUI ( like I was able to just put ubuntu.ext2 or ubuntu.img on the root of the SD card, the problem is it is not usable unless Android-like frameworks are loaded to provide telephony services.. I agree with the comments, let's finish Android first..
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vahid_ppc:
sorry guys but can any body tell me how long do i have to wait?!

now its gonna be about 1hour that i start the heart.exe and its just installing on the page like dos pages! is any thing wrong?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Instinct64:
So whats the easiest way of retrieving the kernel log ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] TheDeadCPU:
What device do you have?

Please have Device info in your signature..
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Instinct64:
Sorry, Sig Updated. I have a Diamond 100.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] KoolTurk:
I just installed Android "polymod 2.1 alpha 4" on ext2 formatted sd-card on my Touch Pro. I used Feb22 kernel, with their initrd.gz file and raph100 default.txt.

not as fast as I thought it would be, nevertheless I tried and succeeded:) now, next step is try to get XDAndroid on that partition.. is there any idea how I can mount squashfs image on Ubuntu, it complains about version mismatch.

I checked dmesg:

"SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor mismatch, older Squashfs 3.1 filesystems are unsupported"
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] phhusson:
Not on topa/rhod :rolleyes: (you get the splashscreen but not the 3D)

Although I think too it would be great to have such feature, there is something that might not be clear about this panel.

It's not a true multitouch:

It's actually three panels (right/center/left), and each panels are able to support only one touch at a time. Well I guess it might be multitouch, but I haven't seen it in htc debug app.

It's still something I have to investigate. My rhod when setted with the same amount of memory works far better than my diamond. Might be SMI VS EBI or some turbo HW.

Oh the communication with the camera is damn easy. No, the problem is to talk to the DSP.

Someone (hey chamonix.) has android on NAND, and it doesn't seem to help at all.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vahid_ppc:
was i your audience?

if yes: my device is raphael with energy phoenix2 28jan rom

now it takes 2hours and still nothing!:(

p.s: i do that immediately
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Instinct64:
I think it was aimed at me, the first time you boot HARET.exe should finish the progress bar in a couple seconds, then begin a console output to your screen.

If it is stuck at a certain point please give us any details which might point to the problem that you have on screen. If you can the line that is on the screen when it gets stuck / crashes.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] TheDeadCPU:
And also you should check that you have the right Startup.txt
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Instinct64:
I just had the issue again a posted about a while ago, ive been looking for the kernel log using pTerminal but cant find the location :(

Plz tell me ;) Would love to find out what is actually happening.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vahid_ppc:
no it dose not stuck its going on but very very slowly!:(

now after 2hours on the last line in the console output is:

[ 6307............]

thanks for ur answer
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] vahid_ppc:
now my device after a vibrate signal restarted and on the normal boot screen crash and say my battery level is too low! but my devise now and all the installing time was connected to the charger!

edit: after couple minutes it start normally. i boot heart.exe again and every thing start from the beginning!

can any body tell me how much is the normal time for complete boot?! how long do i have to wait until can see the ready to work android os?!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Instinct64:
What might fix this, is Backup all the files you want to keep from your Internal Storage.

While connected to the PC go to My Computer > Right Click Internal Storage Drive, Format, and then Format the Card with Default Options.

Then put the android files back onto the Internal Storage and load haret.

Depending on the device your using it might not be called Internal Storage.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rajivkamath:
Time delay

Guys

First off, Thanks for this great Android port to HTC. I love it. Cant wait till we can just run Android on HTC Diamond without winmo.

Well i have been using Android on my HTC Diamond for about 6 weeks now. And i notice that after may be a day or so, the clock has delayed by few minutes. I guess my phone is not syncing time with Sprint, my network carrier. Its off just by few minutes in 2 days but i have a feeling that the delay would keep increasing as time goes by.

Anyone else seen this issue.

Rajiv
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] drdrewdown:
i am super impressed with the work you all have done. keep it up, i'm looking forward to future progress.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Bayria89:
Hd2?

Hi everybody,

can somebody tell me, how i can install that on my new HD2? (codename Leo)?

i would try it, because i find Android really cool.. but i didn`t find any about the Leo or a how to for it?

pls help =)

Thx Bayria89
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] TheDeadCPU:
You can't.. Not yet.

Don't think there are any devs working on it either..