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[General Topics] krjcook:
'Trophy' and 'Bravo', are the Winmo and Android Standout's in this post.

'Trophy'

The Trophy is a stand out in the Winmo category, which isn't saying much, but looks amazing nonetheless, seems like a direct competitor to the Palm Pre & Pixi, and newer Blackberry devices. A 3" capacitive screen, keyboard similar to the HTC Snap which was perfect, and a 600MHz CPU which is clocked 100MHz higher than the Pre's, and based on the same ARM Cortex Architecture used in the Pre's CPU. I was actually thinking about getting the Omnia Pro or HP Glisten, but would rather wait and get this, even if it doesn't have US 3G support.

Key features for me:

Keyboard

3" VGA screen

Capacitive Touch Screen

Faster CPU

5.0MP camera

Huge Battery

Windows 6.5 (however crippling at times)

It's perfect for messaging and playing emulators. Also a Candy-Bar styled QWERTY device with a Big Touch screen that everyone has been begging for.

Bravo

Wow, just amazing. The Spec's make you want to cry. If the HD2 isn't a iphone killer than this surely is. Has basically the same specs as the HD2 except the Screen is a tad smaller, 720p recording and an AMOLED display.

My Key Features

3.7" AMOLED Display

1GHz Snapdragon

Android 2.0, 2.1, or 2.5 or whatever it will have.

HTC Sence

720p Recording (Hopefully Playback as well).

A perfect media device, with it's huge, bright, and highly contrasted screen

-Hopefully, HTC doesn't pull the usual and don't release the better of these device's in the US market or not give it US 3G banding.
[General Topics] mr.tenuki:
did anyone think of the option that the passion/dragon is not in the list because T-Mobile already has it? In tmonew.com they say that the google phone will be launched January by T-Mobile.

Just a thought.
[General Topics] darkriderz:
Bravo my friend...... Wanted to sell my Hero for the Droid but surely i'll keep the hero for the BRAVO..... :cool: many thanx for the info...... Really helpful
[General Topics] tats_06:
B3ler3fonte, thank you so much!!! All of those look very nice, but I really like Bravo the best! Any word on Verizon getting it? or the original passion rumors hold any value? :)

Thank you again. :)
[General Topics] Mahmood:
HTC is giving better designed phones for Windows Mobile devices i saw the pictures for Android they weren't impressive. I also thought that there will be HTC HD3 but why not ? and also HTC HD for android.

Specifics are good but the designs are way old these designs were here at xda in past century if htc is missing the time we are in 2010 !!

i really thought that there will be better designed htc devices like HTC HD 3 or some other device (thinner, sexier) then HTC hd, diamond, pro). they haven't got any! i may get HTC HD 2 for myself if this is there final 2010 production then no htc device for me next year !!
[General Topics] xmoo:
Weird resolutions there using :S
[General Topics] tbaker077:
There is claims coming out that the Passion will come early 2010 to the US on VZW. It will have a 1ghz Sanpdragon CPU but a 3.5in screen. Last I heard the Dragon/Passion will have a 4.3in screen. Odd... http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/htc-passion-runs-android-on-3-5-inch-oled-and-snapdragon-in-veri/
[General Topics] B3ler3fonte:
In order to be more specific and stop the rumors around, as these keep on coming crazily as far as i can see... Ppl, what was presented to you as i have stated clearly on the 1st post, is HTC's list for 2010 and what TMO will definately choose in global basis, UNLESS something else changes ( coz u never know with all those Operators-Vendors marketing agreements as something can be blown away as a project sooo easily and a phone can easily b "burried") and some other products u were all anxiously expecting to be relased, may b there but on other brochures, for other Operators and/or other countries, which i do not posses and of course i do not know! So yes, i highly do not doupt about other HTC products which may b under developing but hese kinda nfo hasn't reached my hands yet and maybe never, if we take into consideration that HTC makes special deals with Operators and releases devices which won't b released by any1 else, the what we call, "exclusivities". Uc HTC never releases HTC brochures like Nokia for instance does and sent em along to everybody, these are made only in the way i presented you last night.

So far, what i know, Passion/Dragon might exist (along with other HTC project phones like Liberty, Memphis, Paradise etc) and might also reach Operator's selves in some way BUT b4 saying posting something i wanna b 100% sure. For that reason,will verify this shortly, though carefully...as i don't know whether these nfo that i leaked last night using proxy and so on (4 my own security), reached highly upper management ppl (no FBI van outside my house 2day as i hd my doupts, and still alive @ work ;) :D)...But what was shown was pure 2010 list and not currently 2009 one, which means that if Passion does exist in some way and/or other name form, it might b finally released, but i am not so confident that it will be globally...Uc the results now, that hoax'es cause...

Lastly, about the what is called "doupters". Ppl u have an "amazing" capabillity of irritating individuals who wanna keep u posted and have ur eyes open and when they do, then u start questioning whether the nfo's are true or not. I think its way enough....If u want something, then try to sneak it out by urselves. Stop judging and critising when a piece of work is performed, unless u have something similar to post and/or to present. if not, i think its better to stay on the shadows, coz what u only manage to succeed is nerves. As for the quality of the scanned images, i said b4. I did my best to make them look the way they are now, IF i will find a better scanner i will rescan them and offer them to you intact with the original quality, coz i do understand that some letters are dif to be read, but i wanted to be as quick as possible for you to have the latest b4 everybody else. So do show some respect about it.
[General Topics] pookie1:
Thanks for this info B3l3rfonte, verrrrry interesting:)
[General Topics] Master_H:
Thank you very much, B3ler3fonte, for the very interesting list! :-)
[General Topics] slumpey:
The specs sheet for the Bravo says the dimensions are "112 x 56 x 11.7 mm".

112 mm is 4.41 inches.

With a 3.7 inch screen that seems small. Current phones with a 3.7 inch screen have been greater then 4.6 inches.

Is this true?
[General Topics] koen-ronse:
HVGA = Half-size VGA = 480x320 pixels ??? Just tell me that's not true...:(

I thought it's a good successor for my Diamond2, but not with that resolution...
[General Topics] hmota78:
Really great thread. Thank you so much for your time and effort put into this.
[General Topics] thesacrifice:
Didn't the head of HTC Sweden make an announcement that the Hero's successor would be announced in February and be available shortly after? That certaintly doesn't correspond with the brochure. There's a million things to speculate from that. Dates been pushed earlier? Incomplete brochure, etc etc.
[General Topics] B3ler3fonte:
U don't suprise me with uranswer @ all...Speak with true facts and not bhind statements that others said...When did h said this?Did u hear by urself or read it over the net? Did h mention about the successor of Hero and if so which this is? Or u speculate it from ur empty head?

So plz give us all a break and a make a sensible..."sacrifice" to humanity...by simply suicide and leave on the shadows. Speculate whatever u want and yes this brochure aint true, like Santa does exist. and Batman is ur really close mate which picks u up every night to hang out 4 chicks to the Neverlands poche bar...

Expect ur Santa soon in few weeks h will definately gesture u b4 leaving hs present underneath ur Xmas tree, which u asked, by writting hm a mail.
[General Topics] nathanpc:
I think this is going to be one of the gretest releases of the year! :)
[General Topics] Archer:
Do the math - those dimensions give a diagonal dimension of around 4.9". That's enough for the screen and any hardware buttons below it.
[General Topics] Shasarak:
B3ler3fonte, I think everyone is happy to agree that your brochure is genuine; but that still leaves some important questions:

1) Is every single phone that HTC plans to release in the first half of 2010 listed in that brochure, or is it only the ones that are going to be sold by T-Mobile?

2) Is it possible that there might be one or two HTC phones released in the next month or two which do not appear in this brochure because they are considered to be 2009 phones rather than 2010 phones?

3) Apart from this brochure, do you have access to any other sources of information about HTC's plans, or is the brochure the source of all of your knowledge?

I don't think these are unreasonable questions to ask.
[General Topics] tikejhya:
What happend to HTC so !!!!!!!! no better screens comming in 2010..

apart from bravo 3.7"... I was really looking after for 4" android phone i guess Bravo will be last choice...:(
[General Topics] trepaulo:
Nice scoop :D

although I hoped for more ;)

the Tera seems to me like a Pro2.5-Lite or something. I might even prefer the Pro2 over it, due to screen size & resolution
[General Topics] Ouzo:
As trepaulo said above, "I'd hoped for more".

Why isn't HTC's portfolio chock full of 1ghz plus Snapdragon phones - especially for Windows Phone?

As I'm not ready to make the switch to Google Android just yet, my first thought upon ready all this was to buy a new phone now this holiday season, as there dosn't appear to be a really high end Snapdragon phone coming early in the New Year. And maybe that's the point of this kind of info - to help the very large HD2 sell well now.....

Do some of the lower screen resolutions finally signify that Qualcomm and HTC have admitted defeat with regard to trying to get a device to perform well at VGA and WVGA with the lesser chipsets? I think so ; )

Great leak though : )
[General Topics] krjcook:
I don't think HTC hasn't admitted defeat for Winmo yet, I think there trying a new marketing plan. They've release a high end phone that you know the Hard core fans will get, but most of the market is casual consumer and they don't care as much, that why they love the iphone, to grab them there releasing budget based winmo phones with capacitive touch. also This isn't the roadmap for the year, just what look's like the 1st half. I sure better will come after winmo 7.

-I was looking to replace my Omnia i900, HD2 is a good phone to expensive for my likes for an unlocked version, I heard it will come to the US subsidized but it will still be expensive. The Trophy looks like a perfect successor. It's has a better screen, physical keyboard, and a pretty quick processor.
[General Topics] iTouch24:
i was hoping they would release a TP2 model running android .. i guess not
[General Topics] lugi93:
Yeah

Skip HD2 and wait for Bravo..:thubup:

Then i'll sell my HD :cool:
[General Topics] mykpfsu:
A) Stop being a ****. For a guy who huffed and puffed like you had the entire catalog and then just put forth the Tmobile catalog you should expect people to question your previous comments which you made as absolute statements of fact and now have to retract as your own opinions (i.e Passion does not exist). You're not god so stop acting like it.

B) Sacrifice is reporting a DIRECT QUOTE from Patrik Andersson aka exec of HTC Sweden.
[General Topics] benko286:
Yepp HTC fu.cked up again..

Why Tera still has 3.2MP camera, and no 1GHz cpu?

What an idiots, they will later complaint how selling is much lower than expected, I really don't know-.-

Bravo is damn good, but too bad it is not for WinMo...we'll see maybe that is better, really don't know how will 1GHz perform on Android!

BTW is Qualcomm 600MHz cpu also 65nm, or maybe 55/45nm?

Did they only increased cpu perfomanse?
[General Topics] Bluewraith:
You are in serious legal ****, I will remove this post shortly if I were you because I'm no Photoshop artiste but I can clearly see the disclaimer you have poorly tried to erase at the bottom of the scans...

And the last line is..."not to be reproduced without the consent from HTC"

ouuupps :eek::eek:

You have better to hide quickly man and prepare some lawyers, I do not remember Taiwanese be particularly nice with site and people displaying real business secret with a not so good erased disclaimer. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
[General Topics] daveydog:
you can buy a new phone every year even on a 2 yr contract...
[General Topics] B3ler3fonte:
Absloutely reasonable questions Shasarak. Not a question about them. So according to what you have posted i am replying back, though i did mention of them on my previous posts, so u can also go back and/or read.

1) Definately what was presented is NOT the entire HTC 2010 even for the first half, for the simplest reason as i have already explained that, definately other devices are under developing, some for broad productions to most of the Operators globally and some others exclusively for only lets say O2. Its all about money...who pays more, gets it. Straight and clean.

2) Definately true of what u have stated.Phones which did belong on any Operators 2009 Portfolio for late Q4 (December 2009) and for any reason (like issues found during beta testing period which HTC R&D is searching for solutions, Operators last min changed plans, Sales changing direction etc etc) got delayed, will be released if agreed, on early 2010. Absolutely true.

3) I do have access but my steps have to be carefully in order to keep my id covered as i can end up from one day to another jobless, losing all this nfo as well....

Won't comment anything of what you've said...just...Always nice to see Greeks like you around mate... ;)

Hahaha that ws something! Ur losing something here fella. Consider urslef as a God as u called it, keep it, its aaaall urs ...God doesn't afraid to lose hs job..I do...So simply...piss off. But, i took my chances and im responsible for my actions, whatever those are or will be.I said it 10000 times, that HTC is definately keeping loads of other definately more stuff/devices for the near future, but surely ppl like u simply don't deserve even to know about them.

And btw, know that im not quoting anybody coz i simply have my sources internally, from R&D and Management ppl...So i salut u!! NJoy ur mess u have created.

PS: Time will tell (as did with Leo and specs leaked) whether my "absolute statements" as u commented them will become final true products and reach the selves...But i want u to be there, as well and have the guts then to state what u did b4.
[General Topics] Wishmaster89:
That Qualcomm chip is a new one. It is 45nm chip with openGL ES 2.0 graphics(don't know the performance) and with VFP(Vector Floating Point) unit clocked at 600mhz makes it similar to tegra apx2500(at least when it comes to the CPU performance). It's not as good as snapdragon but better than msm7201.
[General Topics] Shasarak:
Okay, so, if all of that is true, then this list of devices is certainly not every phone that HTC plans to release between now and next June. That means that, if this brochure is our only evidence, we can't say with any certainty that any other rumoured HTC phone doesn't exist - all we can say is that it isn't mentioned here.

So, coming back to the widely rumoured Passion/Dragon - how sure are you that there will be no high-end Android device released between now and when the Bravo appears? Obviously, there's no Passion or Dragon in the brochure - but does that mean it doesn't exist? Or does it mean that the rumours must necessarily all be about the Bravo?

You may well have other sources which have confirmed that the Bravo is the next high-end Android device HTC intends to launch, and that all the rumours about the Passion/Dragon (for example that it is supposed to ship in January) are false; but, if so, we'd like to know what those sources are. :) Certainly the brochure alone is not enough to contradict that rumour.
[General Topics] tbaker077:
Well those leaks are for T-mobile in UK, so other carriers like Vodafone, T-Mobile US or Verizon in the US may get the rumored device the Passion/Dragon.
[General Topics] modidlee:
Looking at the specs of the Bravo it IS the "Dragon/Passion." I think Dragon was the codename during development because of the SnapDragon processor. Bravo will probably be the official international name, like Dream = G1 and Magic= MT3G. Whichever carriers get it will name it whatever they want to, i guess.
[General Topics] MedioGringo:
I don't think so. Usually we only see the final name of a product once it is about to be released, so it seems unlikely that Bravo is the final name of any phone. I think all the names listed in that brochure are code names.

I just think it's unlikely that the Bravo, Passion, PassionC and Dragon are all the same phone.

I'm more apt to believe the recent rumor that the Passion has a 3.5 in AMOLED screen and is coming early Jan, but was supposed to be available before Christmas.
[General Topics] Nielsepiels:
My opinion: Nice guerrilla marketing campaign by HTC!. Pics are 'scanned' (or just compressed) with the worst scanner ever, but detailed enough to make us drool. Just before the holidays: will I buy a Droid or just wait a little more for some HTC eye candy? The story about you will get fired if they find out, makes it even more exciting. My RSS reader kept spitting stories about that 2010 HTC line up, and those 'silly' people at HTC who couldn't keep this as a secret. That's how you create a buzz!

Accidentally at the same day, a better picture of the Bravo appears. What a coincidence! Don't get me wrong, B3ler3fonte, I could live with a post like this everyday, but it's all too obvious... Keep up the good work!!!
[General Topics] sk8inmonk:
About the specs.....

I really hope that these are true honestly (mainly because of the thought of an easy port for the diamond with the 'trophy' being vga) but not one of these pictures has the no logo and the spec sheets call the windows interface TouchFlo which they aint calling it anymore???
[General Topics] manoli20:
gotta be the Trophy that stands out the most for me... It will make BB users crap in the pants!
[General Topics] tbaker077:
better picture of the Bravo? http://ai.rs/2009/12/htc-bravo/
[General Topics] galaxys:
Dup...See post #76 a few above yours. Anyhow, it looks AWESOME!
[General Topics] thesacrifice:
Suicide... seriously? Look, I understand that you think you are king **** because you've released some information, but suggesting suicide is pathetic. Have you ever cleaned up your best friends' remains after he blew his head off with a shotgun so that his parents didn't have to see it? And if you want to talk about my sacrifices I've made for my country, you PM me.

Funny that you criticize me mentioning information released on the net when you've done the exact same thing. When you move beyond a basic grasp of the English language you'll see that I didn't question the authenticity of your little release. I pointed out that your information when compared with others leaves more than a few questions unanswered. Things change, except maybe your maturity, or lack there of. Don't bother responding, I won't read it.
[General Topics] ez2remember:
I couldn't agree more... He also released info about HTC HD2 before anyone else and had photo's to prove it.

He works for HTC marketing but I don't really care. He can drip feed us with these so called "leaks" when many will know they're intentional marketing ploy from HTC.

Nice "leaks" though. :D ;)
[General Topics] commodore65:
Have to say the windows offerings look completely unispired. I think there will be more windows phones available maybe its a case t-mobile are not taking them up on them particulary with the success of the HD2. Also it doesnt make sense them going from the capactive back to resistive screens for new windows handsets. I would like to see, a touch diamond 3 with amoled capactive screen, wvga resolution. As much as i like the HD2 its simply slightly to large.

The legend looks fantastic but the screen res is so last year. The bravo whilst the specs look fabulous, i think the handset design isnt that great, very bland and plastic looking. A bravo with legend looks now that would be the business
[General Topics] speakerphone:
Nice. Hopw the WM6.5 devices will have a stylus again. I can't write chn/jp chars with fat fingers.
[General Topics] ulluch:
What SonyEricsson does is a rather grubby market approach - announce a phone that is obviously unready for users' hands and not available for months. HTC pretends to do better (CEO quote: "We don't comment phones that we don't actually sell") - however apparently they are not too unhappy if some information leaks, not clear if intended so or not. They are defending the future market without have a phone to sell right now - bad style. Only company that is confident not to do so is again Apple. We could be irritated by this market approach, but we should not, as we are seeking for this information.

Well, but if HTC is listening anyways, pls. read this: Bravo looks nice, but we want this HD2 device on Android - how much clearer can a community be in describing customer wishes? Perhaps B3ler3fonte can use the same channels to leak this information back into the HTC structure that he has used to leak things out? But anyways, B3ler3fonte, many thanks for providing this information, for what reasons so ever!

So cheers everyone
[General Topics] arimozuki:
re:

heres a the clearer picture of the bravo if you havent seen it already. engadget says its the same as the passion, just different branding ... and its coming out in january!!!

hxxp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/htc-bravo-pictured-more-lucidly/
[General Topics] ducey:
Would this phone work in the UK then? Or would I have to wait for a UK network to offer it?
[General Topics] rumpleforeskin:
seems the photon is closest a diamond/topaz replacement but not a great jump in the spec:

a capacative screen which in my view is a side grade and more a matter of taste if you prefer high sensativity instead of high accuracy.

And the new msm7227 that apparantly offers HSDPA / HSUPA radios, a 600MHz CPU, 320MHz application DSP, 400MHz modem processor, hardware-accelerated 3D graphics, Bluetooth 2.1, and GPS support integrated in a 12mm x 12mm chipset. The MSM7227 can also supposedly handle 8 megapixel camera and 30 FPS WVGA encoding / decoding with ease.

Not sure these specs are enough to warrant a move from topaz, but for sure HTC seem to be releasing many different flavor phones in the next twelve months
[General Topics] xplode:
OMG HTC went crazy!!!

When evryone thought they will go up in development they make step back with crappy qualcomm chipsets. The only good thing in presented devices is the capacitive touchscreens which is crappy in windows mobile (due to simulated multiouch on WM6.5) - HD2 is so far the best device, the future ones will not differ than TP2, D2 (except the touchscreen). Anyway the capacitive screen in WM6.5 does not work well, and the problem is in the Windows Mobile itself not on the hardware (so it is Microsoft fault there). maybe HTC strategy is to fil the mobile market until WM7 arrive and make these devices upgradeable to it.