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[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
OK, thanks that will help narrow it down a bit. First I have to get it to crash reliably on mine and then I can test other SYS builds to see if that solves.

Yeah its funny but I find the MS Weather thing too US-oriented for me :D

But I know what you mean about the location code (as I am in Australia so the number code thing doesn't work for me either). The trick with Titanium Weather is to find out what your locations code is using another accuweather app like the Firefox plugin or something.

So I worked out that mine was:

OCN|AU|QLD|BRISBANE i.e. Oceania region -> Australia -> Qld (state) -> Brisbane (city)

I don't know what city you are in but after looking up Warsaw on the Accuweather International page I could see the location code in the end of the URL on that page:

EUR|PL|PL007|WARSAW i.e. Europe -> Poland -> PL postcode? -> Warsaw (city)

To setup the Titanium Weather app the first time you just select it in CHome, go to the "Menu" SK2 button. Then enter you location code at top and set your update schedule (and maybe change temp to Celcius) and then go to Save/Exit at bottom. Choose "Exit with Full update" and you are done.

Accuweather by far provides the most detailed forecast info (there is a seperate chome page for each day in the panel).

However, I am planning on integrating the JMLToday plugin as soo nas I get everything else stable ... and it has its own weather built in too. So that will be an option eventually too.

No I have trouble with it too :( The hang you describes sounds like what I have seen in the past when i had more than a handful of SMS messages to restore (it does go much faster if you have already disabled threaded view - thats I do that during first boot autorun via a provxml file in my SDConfig.txt).

What annoyed me more was the way the checkboxes don't work properly in the email restore if you try and select what folders you want to restore.

To be honest I stopped using it lately. I just copied really important SMS's to my SIM card and I restore my contacts vi ActiveSync to my company's exchange server :o

But for locking up I would definitely try doing a restore with no messages and see if it hangs. Oh ... I have also seen the PIMbackup files themselves go bad and need to just use an earlier backup file.

EDIT: I just did a test restore from PIMBackup ... 100 contacts, 300 call logs and 200 sms/emails ... it did pause quite a while during messages restore. Whole process finished in 2m24s
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
Auto config weather and threaded mail disable

Just in case anyone wants it ...

Here (attached) are the two xml files you can use to pre-config the threaded sms disable and/or the location code for weather. Just rename them as .provxml files.

I call them from the SDconfig.txt on my storage card with the following:

XML: \Storage Card\Backups\Setup\sms.provxml
XML: \Storage Card\Backups\Setup\weather.provxml

Obviously you will need to edit the weather xml to change the location code to suit your city ;)

PS: I have just managed to get Tmail.exe (messaging) to lock up on me ... although I was zooming about reading text messages quite freely for a while ... then when I tried to go to outlook inbox it died :confused:

Anyway I will check it out a little more and as soon as I can maybe build the rom from a different SYS version and see what happens.

Oh and the notification panel in CHome is just a typo. the "MMS" page should be "Email" ... will fix that asap.

EDIT: Actually it looks like it was MS's mistake not mine :P I re-enabled the original (single) "Email" panel and it is called "MMS" too ... so probably a snafu in the chomeres.dll ... really think its time I ported another SYS build (hopefully get a chance this weekend).
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
well PIM Backup works for me too, whole process reaches 100% and is finished but when I click on finish or whatever to close it - it hangs.

about weather - I'll test it again with new rom build as I deleted it and it's too tricky for me to bring it back to home screen :D

my phone has hung a minute ago - when browsing sent messages again (cleaning needed ;) ) - i can't shut it down with task manager and showcase is not working anymore, i cant run it neither from start menu shortcut or by tapping start button longer (isn't it weird?)

sometimes when in contacts (but i don't remember if it was particularly in contacts or in contacts-within-another-thing) hardware buttons acted weirdly - green button instead of beginning a call with selected contact was running dialer just like if it was done from home screen.
[P3600 ROM Development] arxaios:
Very good work but i noticed that total memory in blue7 version is reduced to 48.97MB.Previus versions were at around 52MB.As a result it begins with much less memory free.If you could check it would be nice.Thanks again for the great ROM!
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
shows 57.94 MB to me...

i've just spotted something - i've started that showcase thing and it showed two instances of tmail.exe running - labelled as "messaging" and "sms/mms" - is it normal?

also contacts when run from home screen - look fine, with avatars and random acces, but when i'm composing message and click on eg "add recipient" - it shows really simple contacts window then - could it be changed?

last thing - is there any app that can backup mms messages as pim backup does not?
[P3600 ROM Development] Stelth:
Problem with the Blue Version

I have the following error with the Supersport Blue version (all releases): after flashing the ROM, my Trinity starts loading, after entering the SIM unlock code several CABs loaded and after the soft reset of the device it hangs. On the screen there is SEARCHING... indicator.

It occurs with all versions of the Blue ROM.

SUL versions are OK

upd: I can't receive calls, the device is silent, only notification on the screen appears when there is an incoming call. SUL version.
[P3600 ROM Development] arxaios:
Is there any way to post a link of the kitchen you use for this great rom?Thnks Supersport
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
it's too early for that imo.

tmail.exe is damn unstable i have to say again, it crashed couple more times, 2-3 in a way that I had to remove battery and insert it again (I was at university and haven't any staples around and my stylus is not capable of pushing reset). thing is that messages that were received just before crash were lost, some of them i didn't even had chance to read :/ this is something really important to correct i guess, but beside some minor details mentioned before this is the only major issue i'm having, when corrected - we're going to have terrific rom! keep the good work mates!
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
No mystery. Is just extra space taken by including IE8 components.

However this has nothing to do with available RAM (aka "Program Memory").

3M less of "Storage Memory" just means 3M less of images you can save to the "My Docuemnts" folder or 3M less of apps you can install to "Program Files"

In Windows Mobile terms, the "Storage Memory" is like the "C: Drive" on your PC.

Surely you all have decent sized SD cards in these phones, and that is where you should be saving images and any other bulk file storage :confused:

Sorry, not that I have found

Try flashing phone without SIM card and then insert SIM after it has boot twice and done all the setup routines.

What CABS are being loaded? Any chance these are causing hang?

Incoming call bug is fixed for some/most, but not for others. However it should not have happened on ALL versions. Are you sure about that?

Super's kitchen is on his mediafire but the version I have created is still quite messy and requires lost of manual work on every build because I am still tweaking it. But I do want to post it up for you as soon as I can trust it to be functional for other people.

The kitchen I have built creates both Trinity AND p3600i roms from same kitchen.

Yeah, all of that instability in Outlook and Contacts makes me certain I need to port another SYS to use instead of 28014 :(

I wanted to do it this weekend but did not get a chance (I was covered in house-paint the whole time :p ) ... thanks everyone for your patience. I am trying balance a lot of other priorities as well as XDA duties :o
[P3600 ROM Development] arxaios:
I am talking about program memory and not storage memory.This is at 57,49MB and i don't realy care if it is less.But with less program memory the phone becomes a bit slow.
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
one more thing from - in ssdblue7 I can't change file name prefix in camera app to anything - being able to switch naming to date&time format is really desirable :)
[P3600 ROM Development] Stelth:
Thank you for the advice. I tried to flash without SIM card, Trinity loaded, however it was impossible to enter START menu. After several boots I inserted SIM card and after 2-3 soft resets the device hanged.

I mentioned CABs included in the ROM, you can't stop them load after first boot.

SUL 4 version works OK. The incoming calls bug disappeared after Hard Reset.

One more thing. I can flash my device only after I first restore the original ROM (WM5).
[P3600 ROM Development] sprint:
Still waiting for SUL5 Trinity

Still waiting for SUL5 for Trinity.

The ROM is not done yet.

Have to fix Backlight...or at least just make a cab. file with fix.
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
New SUL Release(5) - 24001 build

Sorry for the long wait. Have just finished doing 24001 build. Very happy with result so far :D

Only had time to do the SUL roms so far. Due to included components and 5M pagepool, the free memory on boot is only 25M free (stabilises at ~20M once running for a while) ... however it is stable as hell and runs like quicksilver by comparison to previous roms :)

Amazingly the IE8 is even functional (although I still included latest Skyfire too just in case).

For folks still concerned over getting absolute top mem number for their software like iGo (and wiling to sacrifice secondary functionality like MMS, dshow, bt transfers, etc) I will cook something that lean later or just release the kitchen asap.

But give these roms a shot first, because I am quite impressed with them. I even installed S2U2 onto mine after doing some basic stress testing ... it chews about 3M of mem but even still the phone runs it smooth as silk :D

Details:

new SYS (24001 build) with minor recmod variations

Backlight Brightness icon added to Tools menu

Incoming calls tested (ring and vibrate, from sleep and locked)

MMS tested (both send and receive)

Wifi tested

Camera (video) recordings playback tested

BT File Transfer (not tested yet but should be working)

LZX Compression aka BigStorage (Trinity only)

NOTE: There are 2 points during the first bootup(s) that require interaction

The MortScript popup - you need to tap the OK in the top corner (or wait like 3min for it to timeout)

On second boot, after Connection Wizard has detected settings and shows a full screen message about needing to restart - you need to

(1) Tap Start Menu --> Home to get back to home screen

(2) Tap on the Notification that is on SK1 button (on taskbar)

(3) Tap Restart button

WWE_24001_TRINITY_SSD_SUL5

WWE_24001_P3600I_SSD_SUL5

I will get the Blue roms cooked as soon as I can ... Titanium will hopefully run really sweet on this new build ;)

Thanks!
[P3600 ROM Development] bigsilly:
Thanks for SUL5

Downloading.. will report later XD
[P3600 ROM Development] sprint:
Thanks

Thank you!
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
so I'm waiting for blue rom! will test it thoroughly asap :)
[P3600 ROM Development] aneprocopos:
You are the best,thanks a lot.Keep cooking:)
[P3600 ROM Development] tuksedra:
thank you, downloading.. hope its better than the blue one..
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
Yeah, sorry but I needed to get a handle on my "baseline" of minimum necessary components to have full functionality i.e. mms,camera,bluetooth,etc. Then I can build on top of that for the Blue.

I am also properly testing this as my daily phone this time too (my shiny new Rhodium will have to be neglected for a day or so :p ) ... so far it is still running nice and clean and I have loaded up the old HTC Home (hermes) to go along with S2U2, which makes quite a nice UI experience in lieu of titanium.

Only thing still bothering me is the standard WM keyboard :eek:

Just out of curiosity, what do most of you regular SUL users do for keyboards? Do you just install PCM or FingerKeyb via cab?
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
there's really no rush mate :) so outlook is now really stable?

about titanium - it may not be the most eye-catching shell but i really like this minimalistic approach on home screen, and it's really finger friendly and quick.

about keyboards (although i'm not SUL user, but i guess it still applies) - i'm installing FK via cab if it isn't included (as default wm kbd is terrible, strange it hasn't changed over the years), for some time I was really into EZ keyboard, but for me FK is the most usable, with many useful option available in setup that make writing quicker even without T9. my guess is that the best option would be to not include any keyboard beside default (obviously) but stick some of the along rom downloads so everyone would be able to choose what suits him most.
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
Seems to be so far. I have added my exchange sync and all my mail accounts to give it a good thrashing so I will soon see.

Yeah this sounds like a good plan. I am taking this opportunity to try out ezinput2.1 as I have not previously had a chance to play with the QVGA version from MEGA (read plenty about it but never actually tried it).

I like FK too and that is usually my default.
[P3600 ROM Development] sprint:
The best keyboard

The best keyboard I am using for the last few years

SPB Keyboard http://spb.com/pocketpc-software/keyboard/
[P3600 ROM Development] CJaKfOrEsT:
Hi. At the risk of sounding "noobish", I keep getting "Error 270" or something when I try to flash. Am I missing something?

Have had success with some of Decoys earlier ROM's but new ones won't work.

Please help.
[P3600 ROM Development] sprint:
Bootloader

Error 270 mean bootloader must be updated.

Search for hard spl on wiki

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=361036
[P3600 ROM Development] CJaKfOrEsT:
Running 3.20 Olipro. Isn't that the current one? If not where can I get it from.

(Man... My Omnia is soooooo much easier) ;)
[P3600 ROM Development] sprint:
After few reboot's

After few reboot's
[P3600 ROM Development] sprint:
More pics

More pics.......
[P3600 ROM Development] sprint:
To CJaKfOrEsT...

Try to downgrade to WM5
[P3600 ROM Development] CJaKfOrEsT:
Are you suggesting this as an intermiediatory set, or as a final solution?
[P3600 ROM Development] goalex:
Intermediary set, off course. Than try to use SD CARD method to update, there is an thread on this forum.

Read this, maybe will help you. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=454123
[P3600 ROM Development] sprint:
Problems with SUL5 Trinity

First one:

Impossible to setup MP3 ringtone. Alwais coming back to defoult window ringtone.

Second one:

Usially I am installing the same package of the programs (On the Storage Card, except Spb Shell)

So...After few rebuts on WM5 official ROM I am still having minimum 20 MB free in programs.

Using the first Beta's SUL ROM from Super Sport even more,- 25 MB.

So.. the problem is that on SUL5 I have only 12 MB left.

(My suggestion for SUL5: after fixing rings, get rid of IE8 and Advanced Config).
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
That's strange ... I have been using an mp3 ringtone all along with mine (is p3600i rom though). How are you setting it? Where is the mp3 file? How big is it?

12?? straight after a reboot? What are you installing?

Mine gets down to about 13-14M only after I have been running for a while and have opened and closed several apps (and that is with S2U2 and HTC-Home plugin running).

It doesn't matter whether you install it to your Storage Card or not. That is the Storage Memory being used. What eats up Program Memory is DLLs and other memory resident processes that components like keyboards and UI shells load into running memory (i.e. RAM)

More importantly though, is it running slow? Has it crashed? Stability is my top priority. Even when mine gets down to 13M it has been running very stable.

IE8 may have some memory resident components after you have run it once but if not it only uses Storage Memory. Advanced Config uses nothing unless you have it running, even then it usually wants to reboot after you run it to make changes anyway.

WM5 will always have more free RAM. It was made for older devices. WM6.5 is not meant for our devices and assumes it can use lots more RAM.

SuperSport's original SUL achieved such a hight free RAM number by running a 3M pagepool and removing functional components like MMS, BT files, wifi settings, video codec for camera recordings, etc etc.

The truth is that I should probably have gone back to calling these roms UltraLight rather than SuperUltraLight because that is what SuperSport meant i.e. a rom with EVERYTHING disabled or removed for maximum available RAM ... effectively useless for anything but basic phone calls and a "blank canvas" for heavy gps software.

I put a few components back in for stability and people started asking to fix MMS, BT, etc etc.

Anyway, I am currently investigating build 23102 (back to the original COM3 branch) so I will have some new roms to test shortly.

More importantly I will get a kitchen pack ready so you can experiment with removing IE, Advanced Config and everything else :D
[P3600 ROM Development] _X_:
I believe that the best way is to include everything and offer kitchen so anyone can cook ROM according to its own taste.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqhVfutWHRg

It can be done easily thanks to this video by SuperSport

only thing that I was too lazy to do is add comments for packages so everyone can really easily fully customize ROM.

here is the next best thing when it comes to package descriptions:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4268166&postcount=5
[P3600 ROM Development] arxaios:
I agree with _X_ please post the kitchen so we can customize the rom to our needs thanks decoy for great work
[P3600 ROM Development] sprint:
Thanks

Thank you the.decoy

I,ll wait for the kitchen
[P3600 ROM Development] bigsilly:
Can't wait for the kitchen, still hope I can go back to IE6

Still using trinity SUL5 without serious problem :D

Sometime when I press X button in taskbar to close program, It does not close but minimize them.

I'm using S2U2+PhonEx that keep my memory around 15-18MB

anyway, It still fast and stable ROM

Thanks for Cooking xD
[P3600 ROM Development] gaindauz:
SUL5 Trinity - Contact background is change

I notice the background screen in Contacts edit page is change (have box line) when set ringtones is apply, after that it is normal again.
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
Those are both 6.5.x issues (well "features" actually, lol) and I have not yet seen anyone resolve them.

Showcase is installed (Press and Hold the START button) for killing apps that only minimise.

I spent (almost) all night on the kitchen and it is pretty much ready to go (RC1 release anyway) but I am just porting the 23102 build SYS into it right now so you will have all three branches to choose from.

Should be only a few hours away :)
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
minor delay

Sorry just got caught up in something else :( ... just doing final testing now. Will have it up by the weekend.
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
but you will release blue roms beside kitchen right?
[P3600 ROM Development] gaindauz:
I want to install manila2D in SUL5, anyone know where I can get the manila2D cab fit with this ROM?

Thanks
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
uploading ...

Phew! Finally ready and uploading now ... will post links in an hour or so when it is up.

Yes, I have cooked up Blue and UL (UltraLight) roms with both 23102 and 24001. Everything will be posted when it is up.
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
SSD Kitchen and ROMs for 23102/24001

Here you go guys :)

Kitchen for both Trinity AND P3600i:

Kitchen_SuperSport-Decoy_v2.0rc1_P3600I+TRINITY.7z ( MIRROR )

Trinity ROMs:

SSD Blue(8) 23102 | 24001 - Titanium with full package options

SSD UL(1) 23102 | 24001 - UltraLight with basic package options

P3600i ROMs:

SSD Blue(8) 23102 | 24001 - Titanium with full package options

SSD UL(1) 23102 | 24001 - UltraLight with basic package options

Will post later on with more details on rom contents and stepped instructions for the kitchens.

The kitchen comes equipped with saved rom presets for all 3 types on all 3 sys builds. Just Use the "Load ROM" button and choose.

Both 23102 & 24001 have 0-modules in VM slot 0 (slightly tweaked recmod recipe from that used on 28014).

The kitchen is still just a RC1 release so be warned there's some unfinished stuff in there (not enabled). :o

If you are tinkering with it you will need to have a look around to see how I have re-arranged the EXT filesystem.

Hope you like it.

EDIT (2012-10-02): Well it looks like 4shared have completely deleted the files, but the Mediafire ones are still there and just required new download keys in the URL). Uploaded to 4shared and both links are fixed.
[P3600 ROM Development] arxaios:
thanks decoy just downloading kitchen

there is a problem with the 7zip archive of the kitchen is damaged

i tried both winrar and 7zip but always gives me problem to some files
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
ok, whats the difference between 23102 & 24001 builds? instaling 24001 right now :)
[P3600 ROM Development] francarl:
+1

kitchen archive seems to be corrupted, can you re-upload, please?
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
yeah, i just dl'ed kitchen to check and it's corrupted.

about 24001 - works great! it's fast, i'll say something about stability after some more testing, pim backup does not lock it any more, quite bad idea however was to put shareware game into it and removing the one with coloured circles (sorry, cant remember title :D)

from weather panel in chome you cant start msn weather widget, it gives an error, e-mail is still called mms (doesn't really matter)

bt works, wifi works, ie actually woks, although my all time favourite is skyfire (which ofcourse works either)
[P3600 ROM Development] sprint:
23102 | 24001

Actualy is good to know difference between 23102 | 24001.
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
Sorry about the corrupt kitchen guys :( ... mediafire is acting weird, I am trying to upload it again right now.

The thing with 24001 and 23102 is that they both came out at same time (along with like 6 other branches) and those two are being reported as the fastest of them. Most say 24001 is fastest (and I think it has slightly higher ram from boot I think, plus I swear IE is slightly faster) but a lot of the QVGA device chefs are saying that 23102 is more stable for our older processors.

I haven't had enough time on either to decide, so I included both. :o

I ran the 24001 SUL(5) yesterday and now I have been running the 23102 Blue(8) for 12hrs.

Memory? ... hmm, well it starts with about 21-22M ram free, loses 2M to the lockscreen and after running a few different apps it stablises at around 15M ... which I know doesn't sound good but at that point it runs quick, responsive and stable (so far) ... with _everything_ installed :D

I will keep trying to upload the kitchen. Please let me know if any of the rom zips are corrupt.
[P3600 ROM Development] the.decoy:
OK, link has been updated in original post.

Kitchen has been mirrored onto 4shared:

Kitchen_SuperSport-Decoy_v2.0rc1_P3600I+TRINITY.7z
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
I just opened the Kitchen. AMAZING work on the organization. That will help many people understand cooking a custom ROM. I have to run for a bit, but I'm anxious to try it out when I return. Maybe, if time permits, I will do another Video to Showcase your New Kitchen, and how to use it.
[P3600 ROM Development] jedai:
damn, 4shared is so slow, i will post some quicker mirror as soon as i download the kitchen
[P3600 ROM Development] asykgsm:
I have Sandisk SDHC TF 8G Class6.

Works in 28014 but I need reformat it them it can work in 23102/24001