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[Nexus One General] Dombfrsh:
thats all im saying cause for the same 72 dollar plan on at&t>59 on t-mobile
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Another contender for the first at&t android phone?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/motorola-backflip-enzo-bringing-android-contortions-to-atandt/

So now we have the following candidates?

- Acer A1?

- HTC Bravo

- Sony xperia x10a

- Motorola Backlflip
[Nexus One General] Ovrclck:
is it possible to say..flash the nexus with win 6.5? :D
[Nexus One General] TheMan42:
Don't bother with the AT&T dolt, he clearly doesn't understand how AT&T rollover even works and how it expires after a year - that and that T-Mobile has way cheaper plans and also offers corporate/premiere discounts on top of that as well - and oh yeah - no contract offerings.

Did I fail to mention that if you've accrued that many rollover minutes you're paying too much for a plan you don't use anyway? How about how T-Mobile is going to have HSPA 7.2 in a few months to all existing 3G sites and a few months beyond that, HSPA 21.

Maybe thats why Google chose T-Mobile's 3G? Ouch...
[Nexus One General] kenniy:
Hope you know the X10 doesnt have a digital compass..that means the google goggle app would not work right on it. I think augmented reality is getting to be a big deal and the X10 might just miss most of that action because of that. stupid decision from SE i think..
[Nexus One General] xtop:
can you show me a link that says there is no digital compass in the x10? quick google search mentions nothing about it not being there
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
To the contrary:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/2...-xperia-x10-versus-apple-iphone-3gs-three.htm

http://iphonehelp.in/2009/11/04/review-iphone-3gs-vs-sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-android/

Can't imagine anyone bringing out a phone WITHOUT a digital compass.

What I find worse is the fact that a lot of outlets are reporting this as a dual band 3G device: 850/1900 or 1700/2100 or 900/2100. That would be retarded.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Latest review here: http://searchengineland.com/the-google-phonenexus-one-was-briefly-in-my-hand-32148

"The Google Phone/Nexus One Was (Briefly) In My Hand

Dec 17, 2009 at 3:52pm ET by Greg Sterling

Yesterday after I had coffee with someone (who is not a Google employee) I was briefly given the “Nexus One” to look at and fondle. I was not permitted to take a photo of it but did have a chance to do a few things on it and was able to form a few “first impressions.” Here are my admittedly superficial thoughts:

•It looked to me like a thinner Droid Eris with a larger, more impressive screen (both are made by HTC; Nexus One has no “Sense” interface)

•The screen resolution was great and crisp

•The stand-out dimension of the phone in my brief time with it was its speed; it was extremely fast (running on the T-Mobile network)

•It features the “new” version of the Android Market, which is a considerable step up from what exists now

•A surprise and disappointment: no multi-touch

This is clearly now the “flagship” Android device; it’s no longer the Motorola “Droid.” In many ways the Droid is clunky and awkward by comparison.

It appears to be faster than the iPhone 3GS but I didn’t have any side-by-side comparison opportunity. It has multi-tasking and Google Navigation, Voice Search and so on. But the iPhone still represents a more “complete” and “integrated” device in my view. Others will probably disagree. Indeed, this is probably the first Android device that is a true substitute for the iPhone. That represents danger for Apple unless it comes out from under the AT&T relationship next year; Android could blunt iPhone sales.

How this phone performs commercially is obviously yet to be determined and will be contingent in large part on its price. Some arrangement exists with T-Mobile but not yet AT&T apparently, although AT&T is reportedly about to release its own Android device (the “Back Flip“). So we may see it emerge at AT&T, especially as the carrier loses iPhone exclusivity (anticipated) in the next year. The phone will only operate on GSM networks, which are widespread outside the US but only T-Mobile and AT&T domestically...."
[Nexus One General] tbaker077:
I don't think the black flip will make much splash on AT&T. It doesn't seem Android enough and the design is a bit awkward. Hell, it has yahoo as the default search engine and from the looks of things Gmail is noticeably absent. I doubt AT&T will loose the iPhone as that is the only thing they are resting on right now. They loose the iPhone there goes half their customer base.

I really like my Eris a lot but would have loved it if came with Snapdragon, even in the lower clocked 600(?)mhz model.
[Nexus One General] xtop:
:confused:

both links say it has a digital compass...
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Yes - to the contrary: ALL reports suggest it

has

a digital compass.

Bad news: FCC leaked specs say that it will only have 1700/2100 3G.
[Nexus One General] xtop:
my bad, i thought you were the same guy saying it wasn't there :p :d'oh:

so how long until the nexus gets its real reveal?? sheesh
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Are you still exited for it?

Seems to me the google phone / nexus was a big balloon bubble that burst:

1. Locked to T-mobile for 3G

2. Just another Dev phone

=> Very disappointing phone.
[Nexus One General] newjaruz:
I guess we can agree to disagree. I don't see how a phone that has these specs and IS NOT just a dev phone can be underwhelming.

Call it what you would like but in the real world the last thing it is, is disappointing
[Nexus One General] Maedhros:
Why would someone as a consumer want to buy the Nexus vs the HTC Bravo? Same speced, but the HTC Bravo looks better. Plus it will have greater support, but then again since the nexus is made by HTC it will still be supported here.

The only thing I see going for the Nexus is if its cheaper then the HTC Bravo, it is released before the HTC Bravo or the HTC Bravo is never released.

This device will sell great if the HTC Bravo is not released. If the Bravo is released, then I see this only selling if Google sells it CHEAP.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
^Well, you answered your own questions!:confused: This bad boy is going to be kicking butt long before many other promised devices in 2010!:cool:
[Nexus One General] kenniy:
I am that guy. I think everybody wanna believe it does, some blogger might post that it does. but would there be a digital compass in the X10 and it will be missing from the official white paper : http://developer.sonyericsson.com/site/global/docstools/phonespecs/p_phonespecs.jsp . Also, check the spec on gsm arena, it doesnt include it.. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10-2964.php

thats an indication that no one is sure it includes it yet..
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Especially with the Nexus being locked to T-Mobile vs. the Bravo (supposedly) supporting US 3G and Euro 3G.

Also - remember that google dev phones (which the Nexus is) were crippled in comparison to the 'regular' version of the device (e.g. HTC Magic 32A vs 32B)
[Nexus One General] newjaruz:
some new info/pics/vid on the Nexus One

http://www.tmonews.com/2009/12/nexus-one-gets-unboxed/
[Nexus One General] brummiesteven:
I love the fact that the Bravo has 720p recording. I mean, I love HTC but for years they've been bringing out really crap cameras on their phones... 90% of them without flash. The Bravo looks to have a decent one.
[Nexus One General] MadBeaverDK:
Does anyone know the amount of RAM in the Nexus One?

Is it 256 or 320 mb?

If it's 256 the Nexus One appears to be the "32B" HTC Bravo.
[Nexus One General] KrewCial:
If this phone is coming sooner than the Bravo, I might actually go for this one and trade in the (imo) nicer looks for a similar spec'd ugly phone, which possibly is a lot cheaper as well. :p

Though I found that the interface looked a bit jerky in one of the movies floating around the i-net...
[Nexus One General] tbaker077:
It may have non T-Mobile 3G as there is a video of a dude from France showing off his buddies Nexus One, unless that carrier he is on supports the 1700 band or he is using it on EDGE.
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Doesn't android show a different icon for the different connection speeds? Where's the video?

EDGE in 2010 = FAIL!!!!

PS: The FCC filing proves that it will come out in the US locked to T-Mobile 3G.
[Nexus One General] newjaruz:
512! More than I have seen on any mobile phone to date!:)
[Nexus One General] TreyDizzle:
The "Backflip" is utter fail. The Empire won't release a decent Android phone till after they lose Apple. Just one more reason to hate them.
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
The Nexus One is utter fail too.

Why doesn't Google release/sell an unlocked Nexus One that actually works on at&t and Rogers, Telus, and the majority of carriers in Middle/South America?

that's much more FAIL than AT&T defending the iPhone as their best phone.
[Nexus One General] fiktion:
I'm much more happier with my G1 as a phone than I am with my Vogue. But, I am not, however happy with the service I get from Tmobile. My phone doesn't send/receive calls sometimes, even though it has signal. It doesn't send/receive texts, even though it has signal. And as said, 3G coverage is an utter joke. I live in the Houston area, and you can move from one city block to another, and bam, no 3G. My Verizon service was never that bad, with all of the above.

That said, I think Google should release an unlocked version of the Nexus One, even though I'm not particularly looking forward to it because of it's lack of physical keyboard.
[Nexus One General] tbaker077:
I think there maybe one with 3G band as google has given this phone to devs world wide. I doubt they would give this to devs with out 3G.
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
They did with their previous 2 dev phones ...

I agree that it is STUPID of them and I wish they would change their policy but the only hope to get the Nexus One/HTC Bravo with 850/1900/2100 seems to be to wait for at&t, telus, rogers or one of the European carriers to pick up the device.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
http://androidandme.com/2009/12/phones/nexus-one-530-unlocked-180-with-t-mobile/

Just spreading the news.

Nothign is more accurate than "Fail Phone"

530$ Unlocked

180$ through Tmo but HEAVILY restricted on plans.

Massive fail by Google.
[Nexus One General] mattyboy247:
If Google is smart, they will let this stew for a few days, just enough to get everyone thinking its too high, and then release a lower price (a real one). The thing they can bank on though is the fact that no one else is going to be releasing anything to compete with in the meantime... as CES is just after their press conference.

So let the public get upset, and then appease them in the end.

Thats what I hope anyway. As it stands, I am about 80% sure I won't get this at $530 and no way I am giving up my family plan for the subsidized.
[Nexus One General] GBerg2119:
That whole plan thing is what really pisses me off. I get plenty of 3G coverage around philly but those restricted plans are so annoying. They totally screw the existing customer. I'm already on a family share plan and I dont want to have separate plans.
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Curious: where are all the people that defended google and T-Mobile as being sooooooooooo much better than at&t?

So it is EXACTLY the SAME as all the other phones sold by T-Mobile, only you can't even go into a store and walk out with your new phone!

RETARDS!!!

No wonder Apple is wiping the floor with the other phone manufacturers!

(and I HATE Apple!)
[Nexus One General] j.books:
if people have sour grapes about it not being available on ATT, then they really have a problem with lack of standardization of wireless frequencies that would make plans more interchangeable. Fact is, Google has already had a relationship with T-Mob from the G1 so its not shocking that's who they've chosen to go with given the current climate of nonstandardization.

it still looks to be one of the better phones out there, by all accounts. I'm on T-Mob with a G1 so no reason I couldn't get an unlocked Nexus One and use it with my current plan. everyone else, your issue is with the wireless companies/US govt who are the only ones who can create the standardization needed to create more flexibility for consumers.
[Nexus One General] temekio2000:
does anyone knw if i just got a mt3g 5months ago can i buy this new phone thru tmobile? is thr something that i can do to get the nexus one for the 180? i knw tmobile said that i could have got two phones, can i get the new line then have it cut off? bam got my n1 i hope :cool:
[Nexus One General] j.books:
like any subsidized deal, you can't get it unless you sign a new contract. you would have to buy the unlocked version and put your SIM card in it to use it with your current t-mob plan. same as with any phone.
[Nexus One General] shata:
woot!

http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222100268

Exciting stuff, 1ghz is crazy for cell phone lmao

I completely agree with this, Google should sell the phones and not Cell phone manufactures - If google believes Motorola meets the standards and keeps things unified then good otherwise it should be left on HTC...Sure that is kinda a monopoly in way but without developers android wont go no where right lol... You cant expect dev to buy every phone out there to make there apps thats crazy.
[Nexus One General] shata:
Cyanogen just twittered he got nexus rooted and boot.img from unknown source woot!
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
There is plenty of standardization. It's just that Google and HTC seem to be too dumb to actually sell an unlocked version of the phone that is ... actually unlocked and works on different 3G networks.

Last I checked the iPhone and a bunch of other phones (e.g. my 3 year old Tilt) have no problem with 3G around the world. Yes - T-Mobile US got the short end of the stick with AWS but what is stopping google/HTC from actually selling an unlocked phone with multiple 3G radios?

Hell - if they can't build a phone with 4 3G frequencies at least sell 3 versions with 3 frequencies each to cover all GSM 3G!

RETARDS!

FAILphone!
[Nexus One General] shata:
Some you guys are just butt hurt that you have AT&T. Thats not HTC's fault. Thats like saying your mad that Droid is only on Verizon and not GSM phone unless you import it from somewhere like ebay.

People with tmobile or whatever other networks will work with it will like the phone im sure and thats just 2 bad for rest of you, deal with it or switch carriers.
[Nexus One General] staulkor:
He himself didn't root it. One of the admins at MoDaCo did -- http://android.modaco.com/content/g...82/30-12-1-1-superboot-rooting-the-nexus-one/
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Why? Because Apple's agreement with AT&T prohibits another flagship device making its way onto the network. Don't blame Google or HTC. Us T-mo customers are ecstatic!
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Come to think of it, the title of this thread is bunk... someone who actually likes this phone needs to start a new thread.
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Yep, this is a DEAD thread! Let the HTS TMOBILE GOOGLE Party continue!

PS: PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS
[Nexus One General] GBerg2119:
When the G1 first came out werent the plans similar? There has got to be a way to get the nexus into a family plan. Eventually I hope. Cause for my G1 i just have the G1 data service added on. I want this phone so bad!!
[Nexus One General] jubeh:
Are you att drones daft? Why would google bother of offering a killer phone to a potentially small market (us, canada, and south american 3g bands) when t-mobile is using the 3g bands used in europe, africa, and asia? You're comparing a potential 2 million 3g market in the us vs 10 million plus with the t-mo us, europe, asia, africa market. If there's interest, people will buy the phone and use it on edge (and face it, if you're on att you're already riding mostly edge anyway). The profit of margin is better from people who know that distances are measured in kilometros and football is really a fast-action-world-renowned game rather than a slow paced pile-up show.
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Haha. Are you retarded?

The Nexus One has AWS 3G ... that's 34 million subscribers worldwide! Only 3 carriers use it.

Versus 250+ million subscribers with 850/1900 MHz 3G (at&t).

And pretty much worldwide 3G with 850/1900/2100 as the iPhone has it.

And are you daft as well.

Last I checked AT&T 3G has a pretty nice coverage network compared to T-mobile (which works in 3 cities?). I recently traveled around quite a bit on vacation in the US and the 3G network was nothing short of amazing. Even in the most remote locations, I had at&t 3G.

So last I checked, T-Mobile was selling it's EDGE network as 3G.

Here's a suggestion: SHUT UP if you have no clue.
[Nexus One General] j.books:
from my understanding ATT doesn't have provide service at the 2100 frequency in the US. therefore, if a manufacturer is only using 1 chip (as is standard), it is going to work on either 1700 or 1900 in the US, but not both.

don't you think manufacturers and retailers want their products available to as many people as possible? however right now its restricted due to the the ftactures between CDMA and GSM, and within GSM.
[Nexus One General] esincho:
the phones would cost alot more if it had both chips, or a chip that could do both US 3G BANDS
[Nexus One General] TheMessiah:
Hey CoolVariable,

Please enlighten us on how you got 250 Million subscriber? Here is a list of the Cell phone companies in the world and I think YOU ARE WRONG!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators

Gerry-
[Nexus One General] staulkor:
As of a few days ago, T-Mobile 3G covers 200 million people in the US and is expanding every day. They are currently rolling out 7.2mbps to replace their slower 3G, and by slower, I mean a bit faster than AT&T 3G. This should be finished before the end of Q1 2010. They will then start rolling out HSPA+ which is 21mbps 3G. This should be finished by the end of 2010. Then they will begin rolling out LTE sometime in 2011. Do you research buddy. And T-Mobile has never advertised their EGDE as 3G...you an idiot. Do you research buddy.
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
Isn't that the point of selling an "unlocked" device?

Guess someone at google needs english lessons?
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
at&t+rogers+telus+Movistar+telcel+18 other carriers in Latam

Do the math. Prob more than 250mm subs.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Yes, and nothing's stopping you from using this device on AT&T. My point was that you should be blaming Apple for its contract demands, and AT&T for agreeing to them. There's a good bet that if that agreement didn't exist in its present iteration, AT&T would have numerous Android phones already. But whatever.
[Nexus One General] shata:
Oh my mistake
[Nexus One General] rlplking:
all this complaining and i can almost guarantee that most of you will have a N1 and love it i know i will ....and if your such a idont phone fan why are you on this thread go to a i phone thread and tell thim how much you love it. this is a HTC/windows mobile/android website
[Nexus One General] shata:
No kidding, this phone is gona rock - i dont think it will beat iphone 3d games but idc cause i dont play games really on my phone anyways.
[Nexus One General] sthoeft:
Vodafone uses the 3G Bands the N1 has (and a "few" of the top 10 carriers too).
[Nexus One General] coolVariable:
???

That still does not make sense!

Google can sell an "unlocked" phone with 850/1900/2100, which anybody could be and use on at&t.

The very thought of google doing this got people excited (as it would have relegated at&t to the role of "dumb" pipe). But google does not seem to be that smart.

What would be smart (if it is true) is Apple prohibiting at&t from releasing any new OS phones (e.g. Android).

Stupid of AT&T but smart of Apple.

Only stupid of HTC and google (and all the other phone makers) that they don't take advantage of the demand for android phones on 850 carriers and sell those customers unlocked phones. Pretty retarded to be honest. Instead they are servicing 34 million subs who already have 3+ android handsets to chose from vs. 250+ million subs for a large portion of which this would be the ONLY android handset.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
What 850 carrier are you talking about? AT&T is the only one in the U.S. and it's locked up with the iPhone. As soon as the exclusivity agreement runs out with AT&T, you'll see a similar device released for that carrier as well that is compatible with AT&T 3G. That's the only thing this phone lacks. Otherwise it works just fine on AT&T, and that's the definition of an unlocked phone. Not whether or not it also connects to their 3G network.

All of these carriers are on their way to being dumb pipes... it's not going to happen yet because the voip infrastructure isn't as broad as would be necessary to do it.

I honestly don't see why you have your panties in a bunch over this. Google did the only thing that made financial sense in both U.S. and non-U.S. markets.
[Nexus One General] microwater888:
Why everyone is complaining it fail? Just because the bands?
[Nexus One General] stogchris81:
not everyone. just one misguided individual. and yes. it seems him/her feels that the band support is the reason for the rant.
[Nexus One General] esincho:
I don't care about 3G, I buy all my phones unlocked, and this price is CHEAP 4 such a unlocked device. This joint mine day 1.
[Nexus One General] Tom Servo:
The bands used currently on the N1 allow Google to reach more "customers" (or rather developers?) because that's what's being used internationally. Only the USA are using these weirdo bands and CDMA.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonflyservices:
Is it possible to make the G1 automatically switch on, when power is available?

The situation is that I have a G1 that needs to be left on constantly, and is left on charge, however should the power go off, for more than the battery life of the G1, the phone will obviously power down. Is it possible to have the phone auto switch on when power is reconnected?

Any help most appreciated?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carnegie0107:
Something that makes the G1 turn on when it's off? I'm sure it's possible, but not with software (obviously, you can't run software on a device that's off and has no power). You'd need to take apart your phone, and install some kind of circuitry that simulates pushing the power button when current passes through it....

The point is, this is pretty far-fetched and probably way more effort than it's worth. It's impossible to do with software. Although... if you did make it work, be sure to make a YouTube video and send me a link, that would make the geek in me very happy!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] sohail92:
this is a game similiar to paper toss on the iphone. Has anyone been able to get it to work on the hd2?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] twoesse:
I try this game on my HD2, but it doesn't work.

When i want to play the game, i have a white screen :(

Is there somebody with the same problem ?

PS : sorry for my english, i'm french.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] stuart-buchy:
Same issue with this game and others from that developer, I have .net 3.5 and edited the reg to use, I tried using the driver they provide but that messes up the comp phone graphics so de installed that, my son has a diamond that has a cooked rom and his phone works????

I have htc off 1.61 rom ?

Any suggestions what I could try would be appreciated?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alaasagar:
same for me
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] stuart-buchy:
I have this and the other games from there working on my diamond, maybe this is a screen size issue, I read about a screen resizer on here maybe that will fix?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] header2k:
You mean WVGAfix?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] nicelad_uk:
WVGAfix doesn't work on the HD2 :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alaasagar:
any luck???!!!!!