yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] H@OBouget:
I did some more tests.

Using Cellfinder I found a spot with semi clear line of sight (few trees) to a tower that gave me what I considered good readings for my area.

25 asu -63 dBm average was more like 12 asu and -101 dBm

Not overly impressive I know, but the best I found.

And that was 1600 feet (485 m) for the tower.

I used xtremelabs speedtest to check the speed.

On the stock build.trout.prop

25 asu -63 dBm

703d 150u

749d 152u = Ave 679d 152u

585d 153u

Rebooted x2

signal changed to 21 asu 71 dBm

780d 153u

527d 154u = Ave 728d 152u

877d 151u

Changed script to the one I made with Stimpoff and Amon Ra's data.

18asu 77 dBm

754d 142u

513d 141u = Ave 593d 145u

513d 153u

rebooted x2

Signal remained at 18asu 77dBm

781d 147u

912d 151u = Ave 742d 153u

534d 162u

What ever super readings people are getting....I'm not seeing them on the south end of Seattle Wa.

Maybe I did something wrong.

I also discovered that getting to close to the cell tower causes your signal to switch to a different tower. Try driving around looking at your phone for the best signal and suddenly have it switch to a tower a mile away, across a freeway, in an industrial area.

It's like playing hide and seek with a mouse. Just when you think you got it...It's over there--->

The cop who was following me did not understand the need for cell data or what a script was. He did understand the need for his ticket book. :(

I guess its not only illegal to talk on a cell phone, but just having it in your hand is an offense now.
[G1 Android Development] freaktractor:
damn...that sucks bro

the ticket that is...
[G1 Android Development] uansari1:
As a law student and someone who fights every ticket (and has won a few), I strongly recommend fighting it. At the least, you should plea bargain with the prosecutor after your arraignment and tell her/him you don"t want points and will deal for a lower fine. I think you could get the whole ticket dismissed though if you played your cards right.
[G1 Android Development] elingreen:
T-Mobile

Los Angeles

G1

before and after was about the same, anywhere from 500-800 down and 150 up.

i ran multiple tests in my office before and after. no noticeable gains.
[G1 Android Development] cal3thousand:
TMO

LA

i was getting 300 down consistently before this and afterwards I get anywhere from 500-800

also, it started to get faster after subsequent tests of the system.

Not sure if it was due to the phone having more resources at hand at the moment or if there was a real improvement. Haven't rebooted yet either.
[G1 Android Development] Zei:
T-Mobile G1

Houston, Texas

Pre Mod

WiFi

3183kbps down

612 kbps up

3G

545 kbps down

415kbps up

2G[Edge]

206kbps down

104kbps up

After Mod

WiFI

3821Kbps down

682kbps up

3G

587Kbps down

418kbps up

2G[Edge]

201kbps down

106kbps up

Improved some but not a whole lot but good improvement over what I had. See as I fly alot ill test this in other cities. and cant wait until 7.2 is released
[G1 Android Development] jerhoyet:
Did anyone else have an issue using this mod in the US and having download speeds fluctuate drastically during tests? Mine jumps between 800kb/s and 250kb/s over and over during the Speedtest.net app test (with the mod). Before, it would hit around 700+ and sit there.
[G1 Android Development] g1g:
Im running cm 4.2.7.1 tried this mod and did notice and difference in dl speed but now im getting random reboots 3 in the past 10 min since i did the mod ... So my question is if i reflash cm from nandroid back up will it replace the moded trout file with the stock cm trout???
[G1 Android Development] Sxyman815:
yes when you restore nandroid backup then it will restore all files including those the only thing that will/wont change is your recovery image depending on what recovery you have so yes it will restore the stock cm trout files
[G1 Android Development] tee aiy emm:
Yes, I've noticed this. It's like the connection is inconsistent and so it sporadically pauses and starts again.
[G1 Android Development] tama82:
I think the HSUPA just improves the uplink speed, based on the following article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access#High_Speed_Uplink_Packet_Access_.28HSUPA.29

So it may or may not improve the download speed. Also depends on whether the operator adopted HSUPA.

I just enabled. Didn't do any testing. As long as no noticeable slowdown.
[G1 Android Development] cal3thousand:
Tmo is going right for HSPA+ 21 for their 3.5G
[G1 Android Development] jerhoyet:
I reverted back to the default settings and still had the same issue. Seeing how you're from the same area as I am (Fredericksburg is only about 40 minutes down 95 from DC) maybe the Speedtest.net server in DC was just having a bit of congestion last night.

Anyway, I think once I start hearing reports of T-Mobile flipping the switch on their HSPA 7.2 upgrades in my area I'll switch to these settings, because then I should see a very substantial increase in throughput.
[G1 Android Development] Proxin:
Will our G1 hardware be able to connect to this when the time comes?

Or will we be stuck in the original iPhone 2G owners' boat like when the 3G came out?
[G1 Android Development] ivanmmj:
The G1 does not support HSPA+ so we won't get the full speed, unfortunately. But we WILL get a massive upgrade from what we have now.
[G1 Android Development] cigar3tte:
Houston, TX and T-Mobile US, two runs

before:

down: 821kbps/868kbps

up: 173kbps/128kbps

after:

down: 604kbps/325kbps

up: 42kbps/39kbps

Switched back to old settings and will wait til 3G to test again (currently on Edge)
[G1 Android Development] dadennis:
for me it's working very good as well, especially for uploads and teh latency ... here my results:

before:

Down: 2275kb/s (3g)

Up: 408kb/s

latency: 162ms

after:

Down:2345kb/s (3g)

Up: 975kb/s

latency: 124ms
[G1 Android Development] thenefield:
I was also wondering what these parameters are specifically for and what the range of values may be and there purpose.

I found some good answers:

ro.ril.hsxpa:

http://www.hsupa.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=31

ro.ril.gprsclass:

http://www.newlc.com/en/GPRS-Class-overview.html

Class	Dynamic	Download Ch.	Upload Ch.	Max Active Ch. Combinations

1	Non	1	1	2	(1+1)

2	Non	2	1	3	(2+1)

3	Oui	2	2	3	(2+1) (1+2)

4	Non	3	1	4	(3+1)

5	Non	2	2	4	(2+2)

6	Oui	3	2	4	(3+1) (2+2)

7	Oui	3	3	4	(3+1) (2+2) ...

8	Non	4	1	5	(4+1)

9	Non	3	2	5	(3+2)

10	Oui	4	2	5	(4+1) (3+2)

11	Oui	4	3	5	(4+1) (3+2) ...

12	Oui	4	4	5	(4+1) (3+2) ...

Overall, it sounds as if the modification only doubles the uplink speed. Still testing out my MT3G to see any noticeable difference.
[G1 Android Development] H@OBouget:
Looking back at some of the posts got me thinking.

We are posting data from all over the place, but it is not valid for comparative results.

Some people have posted latency, while others have not.

Some people used an online speed test while others used an apk.

I just used an online speed test (www.mobilespeedtest.com)

My first result was 601.504 Kbps latency .739

No upload stats.

According to their chart my DL is 200 Kbps faster than standard 3G/EVDO/HSDPA

My result on their 2mb test was 3013.183Kbps (DL) and a latency of .0405

Which means my phone is 2x faster than DSL ??? WTF?!

My point...we need a set testing method so that the results we are posting are consistent.

If I had posted that I was getting 3013d you guys would have $#!^ bricks, and wanted to know what I had done.

Any suggestions on how to create aa accurate, repeatable, testing system?

Right now I am using Cellfinder, and Xtremespeed speed test apps on the phone. Neither offer latency readings.
[G1 Android Development] Amon_RA:
People... the mentioned settings will only work if your network supports them!

Most important is the fact that they NEED to be set to the value that your network is currently supporting if you want to enjoy optimal speeds!!

ro.ril.hsxpa : inidcates hsxpa support of target network :

ro.ril.hsxpa=0 - UMTS r99
ro.ril.hsxpa=1 - HSDPA
ro.ril.hsxpa=2 - HSDPA/HSUPA

ro.ril.gprsclass : inidcates GPRS class of target network :

Class 2 : 3 slots : 8 - 12 kbps upload / 16 - 24 kbps download
Class 4 : 4 slots : 8 - 12 kbps upload / 24 - 36 kbps download
Class 6 : 4 slots : 24 - 36 kbps upload / 24 - 36 kbps download
Class 8 : 5 slots : 8 - 12 kbps upload / 32 - 40 kbps download
Class 10 : 5 slots : 16 - 24 kbps upload / 32 - 48 kbps download
Class 12 : 5 slots : 32 - 48 kbps upload / 32 - 48 kbps download

ro.ril.hsdpa.category :

Cat 1 = 1.2 Mbit/s
Cat 2 = 1.2 Mbit/s
Cat 3 = 1.8 Mbit/s
Cat 4 = 1.8 Mbit/s
Cat 5 = 3.6 Mbit/s
Cat 6 = 3.6 Mbit/s
Cat 7 = 7.2 Mbit/s
Cat 8 = 7.2 Mbit/s
Cat 9 = 10.1 Mbit/s
Cat 10 = 14.0 Mbit/s
Cat 11 = 0.9 Mbit/s
Cat 12 = 1.8 Mbit/s
Cat 13 = 17.6 Mbit/s
Cat 14 = 21.1 Mbit/s
Cat 15 = 23.4 Mbit/s
Cat 16 = 27.9 Mbit/s
Cat 19 = 35.3 Mbit/s
Cat 20 = 42.2 Mbit/s
Cat 21 = 23.4 Mbit/s
Cat 22 = 27.9 Mbit/s
Cat 23 = 35.3 Mbit/s
Cat 24 = 42.2 Mbit/s
Cat 25 = 46.8 Mbit/s
Cat 26 = 55.9 Mbit/s
Cat 27 = 70.6 Mbit/s
Cat 28 = 84.4 Mbit/s

ro.ril.hsupa.category :

Cat 1 = 0.73 Mbit/s
Cat 2 = 1.46 Mbit/s
Cat 3 = 1.46 Mbit/s
Cat 4 = 2.93 Mbit/s
Cat 5 = 2.00 Mbit/s
Cat 6 = 5.76 Mbit/s
Cat 7 = 11.5 Mbit/s

Not speed related, but still nice to have :

ro.ril.enable.3g.prefix : adds the 3G prefix to the operator name.

ro.ril.enable.dtm : Only set this to 1 if your network allows simultaneous transfer of Circuit switched (CS) voice and Packet switched (PS) data over the same radio channel (ARFCN).
[G1 Android Development] Hellek:
Thanks for that small hack. Speed difference for me:

Download unchanged (as expected): about 1300 (my max. so far: 2300, but that was on another location)

Upload pre : 244

Upload post: 954

Very handy for uploading pictures and videos. Google Goggles now responds extremely fast.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] memoouda:
I am a big fan of urs roms, the speed and performance are very nice I have a Wizards & my request to made roms to our device wizard coz the roms in form is not same as urs ,plz help us
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] TheCaesar:
Are you being offered a job or simply ROM development just to the maestro?:)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] wapvirus:
why don't you ask the wizard ROM cooks to dump one of these ROMs and port it to wizard ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] merten3000:
Ok here's my problem:

I make custom dutch roms for the Rhodium (touch pro 2).

I use the latest XIP/SYS builds (28009 at this moment) and I use manila/sense 2.5

(Almost) everything works great!

I also own a pioneer car-entertainment set (avic f900bt) which has a built in parrot bluetooth carkit.

Pairing goes perfect and I can transfer my phonebook and make calls.

The problem is that when I recieve a call and try to hang up the system hangs and needs a reset. My TP2 also hangs for a while after such an event and then after minutes goes back to the today screen.

At first I thought it was my carkit, but my wife's samsung and my brother in law's blackberry work fine.

Then I tried my own phone with the latest OFFICIAL 6.5 rom (dutch) and it worked great.

So I started to trial and error with different adjusted roms. I got it all working with the newest XIP/SYS builds. But the problem seems to lie somewhere in manila 2.5. I even got it working in manila 2.1 without any bugs

But with 2.5 I get the problems above. And I forgot to mention another bug:

- When I make a call or recieve a call I do not see a 'red phone' button to hang up which I do see with other phone's or roms without manila 2.5. So I have to end a call on my HTC instead of my carkit. And when I try after recieving a call it hangs as described above.

After 2 weeks of flashing and trying I give up...

I use the OEM from the latest official dutch 6.5 rom so those drivers can not be the issue. As stated before...It's all pointing to manila 2.5. But after flashing disabling manila does not fix the problem. So it must be somewhere in the cooking proces (Ervius VK 1.82)

Please one of you supreme chefs help me out here because it's frustrating me now and I want to get it working as it should.

Thanks a milion in advance!!

EDIT: to the mods; I did not know where exactly to post this after the re-organisation. So please move if neccesary.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] merten3000:
Almost 170 views and no comments??

Please fellow cooks...I'm desperate...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Noonski:
Well i do think you already have an answer.

But the actual non existing pressure you feel from users that always want the latest no matter how buggy it might be ;)

When MS started to "Leak" builds beyond 20000 (But before 21054).

I also started noticing Bluetooth pairings going haywire and acting differently.

As i don't care that much about what most "Flashers" think and tend to believe that the choices i make concerning cooking a rom are probably more founded in what is right.

I tend to stick to stable OS Builds. It's the New Age XDA dilemma, either dish out unpredictable New Builds, or make a ROM that in the first place Suits you and has the functionality You need.

In this case that would be an older SYS.

I think that also because of TP2 has now switched to different Bluetooth Stack and 2.1+EDR isn't helping.

And it might be that MS is actually working on getting up to speed and changing their own BT Stack, so HTC will not need to turn to WidComm for the BT Stack.

I do believe that there are a few Senior Cheffs and some Non Cheffs do probably know which other parts (besides the Obviously named Bluetooth related SYStem parts), might be related to dealing with Bluetooth Pairing and such.

Whatever solution there might or might not be, don't hesitate to make it hybrid.

Use the old fashioned method of dividing and conquering.

(Get a good supply off Coffee)

Start with Stable Release Build SYS replace 50% test. (leaving all obviously Bluetooth related Packages from Stable Build)

Replace the Next 25% Test etc, you know the drill.

And hopefully isolate the Packages from SYS that have related Files to Bluetooth.

Luckily there's already enough SYS packages you can rule out like enterprise, entertainment, Office and such.

I know it's not a cut and dried answer, but hopefully i can "Je een hart onder de riem steken" that your up against this alone ATM.

But consider this, how many time do you have at hand, and is it worth it putting a lot of time into it, only finding out MS fixes it in a few "Leaked" Beta Builds.

Who knows maybe this Bump does get a few others on to this thread that has already tackled this problem.

(Da_G is the most likely, that i know that might know other Bluetooth dependencies inside the SYS)

Cheerz,

PS: don't forget to enjoy the snow a bit.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Magic3091:
Pairing with Avic f900BT

I too have the exact same problems. The phone is straight out of the box.

Any easy ansewrs as yer?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] merten3000:
I got it working on mine using the attached cab :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hoss_n2:
After i asked customer service again about an official release of wm6.5 for hd they told me that

it is now under testing

and they have not decided yet but it may get it after all (LETS HOPE IT WILL GET IT)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
this is good news, but it may only be close, similar or even the same as the ROMs we are enjoying with the Cooks here in XDA, we owe everything to them!:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vysus:
Yep, but maybe we could pass over that annoying freeze problem: it affects EVERY cooked ROM....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hmmhmm1222:
i had same problem, i flashed back stock and then a cooked, and no more freeze!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
Never had freeze when i was with Vanilla Series Rhodium Port by Kwbr, used it for a week. Now on my Third day of Topix (Kwbr) 3.2. absolutely faultless ROMs.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hoss_n2:
but stock roms are usually better and if there is problems they will be fixed by hot fixes released in htc site
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hmmhmm1222:
I would disagree , some cooked are far better in terms of speed and response. But many suffer problems due to mtty problem, flashing to much, and flashing back to stock fixes this and after that you are good to go stock, so every once in a while if you are an avid flasher you should flash a stock rom to avoid your mtty to clog up and cause freezes and hickups.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ClydeB1:
+1 on that. If stock roms were better than cooked roms, this site would have shut down before it even got started. Even back in the days before cooking 6.5 roms, there where 100's of avid flashers trying to get the best out of their device.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] d.cortez:
add me to the list of those who had to flash to a STOCK ROM to correct a freezing issue. i reflashed the custom ROM 3 times and my device's issue did not go away. i flashed a STOCK ROM, 2 hard resets, then flashed the SAME custom ROM and no problems to date. oh yeah, i'll be SHOCKED if HTC creates a WM 6.5 ROM for the HD.:eek: if they were to give us one, it would be interesting to evaluate performance differences.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] petrica79:
lol

we will never see WM6.5 from hTc. i know it's christmas, but wake up guys.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Never had freezes ...

Even stock roms have bugs and these are not always fixed by hTC :)

But hTC releasing a new HD rom is great news for HD owners.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] egyptos:
dont think so

im sorry to tell u that if ur info was from htc call center then most probably its not true, i know how ppl work there they basically know nothing abt htc devices.....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hoss_n2:
no it is from htc custmer service by email are you from egypt because egypt call centre no nothing about htc
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] live4themoment2x:
I believe

I believe you as i was speaking to a guy who works for Telstra the other day and he said that there will be a official Htc 6.5 rom for HD sometime in January in Australia.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
To be honest, the day HTC officially release wm6.5 will be the day aliens make contact with earth

As for stock roms being better than cooked roms, obviously you've been trying the wrong cooked roms. I would never flash back to a stock rom for everyday use, just wouldn't happen. Cooked roms bring faster, more reliable, improved devices. The basic stock rom for the HD was a joke. After owning the Hermes, Diamond etc I was very disappointed with the stock rom and I thank all the great chefs out there for making the HD a better device!!

Also, I haven't had a freeze yet, so no need to flash back to stock....yet :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Imperium:
I flashed back to stock because that is the fastest ROM i could find.. i tried all sorts of ROM's, Dutty's, LEO, NRG, Kwbr, Laurentius, etc.

But all were sluggish and very unresponsive. Now i have the stock ROM with Manila 1.3 and it is fast as hell..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BlueAnt1958:
Downunder News

Now that is interesting, Mind you Telstra is about as truthful as HTC. :D

Still it would be interesting to see what build they propose.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BlueAnt1958:
R u sure about this.

Sorry but I have to disagree with this statement. Stock roms have always been slower. The only times our phones function as they are meant to is after a chef (long may they live) as cooked up a treat.

I have now had 6 different HTC's 2 x hermes, 1 x Touch dual, 1 x Kaiser, 1 x Touch Pro and now a Touch HD. Every single one of them has performed way beyond what a stock rom offered after I loaded a cooked one. This is just a simple fact.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KayK:
well i do hope this is true, with official W6.5 ROM for HD, maybe then chefs can get their hands on updated / "official" HD drivers that are meant for W6.5...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NeoS:
Gheh, let's put some more oil on this bonfire...

I've flashed my girlfriends Topaz with the 6.5 stock rom and it outperforms my HD in EVERY aspect! I thought it could also be with my HD and i flashed the stock 6.1 NLD ROM and wow! I had forgotten how FAST 6.1 was. Compared to 6.5, 6.1 is ALOT faster and responsive. Now, what went awfully wrong with 6.5 here?

Bummer i'm so accustomed to manila 2.5 and the finger-friendliness of 6.5, because it's slow as hell. However, if HTC would release an official ROM, it'd be the first thing i'd flash back on my HD.
[Touch CDMA General] Macmee:
I got a HTC dream now, and it's time to lay my vogue to rest. The vogue was a brilliant phone, but I didn't really see how brilliant it was until people like mssmison or zenulator started providing all sorts of support for Android.

Sorry if this is sort of a random thread or something, but I just wanted to say thanks to you guys. Without you and this section my experiences with the Vogue would have been limited to Windows Mobile. And we all know that is -shudders- very bad.
[Touch CDMA General] jamezelle:
peace out :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsirhc6x:
just do i use my recovery image to install a theme? like rename theme to update.zip, power on holding home and end, click update.zip....

so im pretty sure about that but...

my rom/radio will still be there untouched right?

like this will only replace the image files or w/e is needed to make a theme?

thanks a bunch!

edit*

unlocked hero, modac. 2.9, not the permanent recovery image!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goose247:
There are 2 ways to flash an image. When you go into recovery and choose "Flash update image" you will probably have 2 options.

1. Apply sdcard: update.zip

2. Apply sdcard: choose zip

Method 1. Move zip file unchanged to SD card and choose 2nd option then browse for the correct zip file.

Method 2. rename image file to update.zip , upload to your SD card and choose option 1

It doesn't affect your rom/radio etc.

Always best to do a nandriod backup before installing a theme, so that if you decide you don't like it or it doesn't run smoothly you can then do a nandriod restore which will put everything back to the way it was before you installed the theme.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsirhc6x:
thank you very much!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
i beg to differ. the rom is affected, as parts of the rom are exchanged with the parts modified to create the theme.

basically the images that are used to create the gui are altered and then repacked. if you extract a theme update file you will find several apk's of system apps inside, extract these and you will eventually find the images.

usually to create a theme the original app from the rom is used and only the images are altered, not the application code, so it won't make any difference for the functionality, but it leads to themes being tied to one version of a rom, and working only with that rom version.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsirhc6x:
thanks, yea i wasnt sure if i clicked update.zip, if it would erase the whole rom, and only put the alteered stuff on... leaving me without a functional rom:)

ahah but now i get that it only erases the parts being added!

thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goose247:
That's basically what I meant :) about functionality and images
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsirhc6x:
if either of you know anything about creating themes could you check over into the dev section and answer my questions?

thankss:)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goose247:
Beyond my knowledge. But if I was to do a theme I would download a theme and have a look at all the image files and work from there