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[HD2 General] ruffruff:
Sharing my painful crashing experience with my fellow HD2 bros:

I've got my HD2 just last month and the initial few days were a joy. After that the nightmare of phone slowing down so much that it hangs starts to emerge. I have tried all sort of tweaks but it just doesn't help. My phone will slow down randomly frequently in a day.

Hanging symptons:

1) Phone does not light up. Only hardware key lights up. This can take 5 mins to 30mins to recover. If i cannot wait, I will just plugged out the battery and restart

2) Phone hangs after ending a call. Nothing works here. Plug out battery and restart

3) Phone hangs occasionally after receiving SMS/MMS/Missed call. Same as #1, cannot light up. Plug out battery and restart.

4) During typing of SMS/Emails or in any application, sudden slow down of the phone. In this scenario, the letters which I have type comes out 1 after another in 1 - 3 sec time. Either i wait for 5 - 15mins for it to self-recover or I reset.

There might be more incidents while the phone hangs but the above are the major scenarios which happen at least twice a day.

So, i spend some time to find out what actually slow down the phone. (Did numerous hard reset to trace if it is a program or setting issue). End up with the following conclusion:

Each time I hard reset the phone, it works very well. Issue only starts to begin after I restore my contacts, SMS and emails.

I have 127 contacts so did a separate case and find that this is not the issue. The phone might still lag a bit during facebook status updates but doesn't kill the phone.

Email: Over 300 emails in 2 accounts (1 exchange and 1 gmail). No issue with this as well.

SMS: Root cause of my issue. I have over 1300 SMS/48 conversations and each time i use PIMbackup to restore them, the phone heats up rapidly and start to hang. Services.exe & CPROG.exe will prompt several errors. I found that the HTC messaging app will try to refresh the "Conversation" count every now and then, thus hogging cpu and mem which kill the phone. I ever seen twice that the number beside the conversation reset to 0 and start to jump again.

Now, I have deleted most of SMS, cutting down the number to less than 300. It is working as good as it should. Sometimes there will still be heat up and minor slow down when I tried to load fanciful website via opera but the phone crash issues have definitely dropped down to rock bottom. (Errors do still happen if i tries something funny with the phone). Now, daily on my phone, resco explorer, htc messaging, email and 2 other fav applications are always on and I have not experience another phone hang issue.

(But i have also write in to HTC to demand for a solution to resolve the HTC messaging app issue.)

Hope this will be useful to others.

Cheers,

Ruffie

On stock 1.66.707.1 with CF3.5, BSBTweaks and Cookies home tab
[HD2 General] Spoofy:
Yes changing ROM's wont fix it,

But i found changing Rilphone does! Infact I havn't found a Rilphone yet that is suitable but after removing the Rilphone completely I have found the phone operates extreemly smooth after suffering from this issue for over 2 months. I am looking into the latest rilphone 1.77_rilphone for radio 2.10.50_19_2 and will get back with further info if i can patch NRG's nk.exe

Thanks
[HD2 General] Zentury:
When the phone does not come out of its slumber i.e. blank screen with all the hardware buttons lighted up, remove battery to reset the phone. After HTC Sense is started, uncheck the below particular setting.

Start > Settings > Menu > All Settings > Today > Items

The setting "Today timeout", at the bottom left hand corner,

should not be selected/enabled

.
[HD2 General] Spoofy:
One of the first things I tried but to no avail.
[HD2 General] Zentury:
Hi Spoofy,

Would you by chance know the registry setting for "Today timeout" ? I certainly would like to know the registry setting for that "Today timeout".

Once I had to do a factory reset when my phone failed to load due to a bad app installed, I then restore from my backup which later I realised that I should have set it to do a replace instead of merge. The restored setting phone showed that "Today timeout" was disabled but the phone "hung"/shown a blank screen with all the hardware buttons lighted up whenever waking up from sleep.

I then did a factory reset again and painstakingly re-installed all the apps, applied all the settings and configurations back to as before the phone crashed due to that bad app. Since then it was able to recover from sleep.

Maybe you like to try enabling "Today timeout", soft reset,

disabling it and then finally soft reset again. Just a thought.

PS: I found the registry setting after posting the above - "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\SessionTimeout" corresponds to the "Today Timeout" in number of hours. Setting this value to 0 will deactivate the Today Timeout.
[HD2 General] Genesis3:
An interesting thing I found about HD2 lockups.... if you are polling an email server, and it fails to disconnect at the end of a session - at least for IMAP servers (not sure if POP servers do this as well) the phone is screwed.

This appears to be something in the TCP/IP stack where the phone goes into what's basically an infinite read loop. The CPU is consumed and while you can sorta get back into the phone, it's EXTREMELY slow and appears to be locked. It's not, but it may as well be in terms of responsiveness. There is nothing showing in the task manager either.

If you yank the battery and reset all appears to be fine until it goes to check email again, then you're (again) hosed.

I ran this down on my end and found that the email server was somehow getting the phone into a very nasty state. You can detect this if you go into the inbox - it will show "disconnecting" but never comes out of that state.

I don't know what causes the phone to get twisted up like this, but if it happens, you've got trouble. I was able to clear it by clearing the email server on the other end, so it's somehow related to the IMAP program (at least.)

This is a NASTY bug in that it's not in a place you'd expect, but IS in something a lot of people use.....
[HD2 General] gillgrylls:
ive gone through all of the steps ive found on here. formatted the sd card, disabled the today feature, etc....

i think its software related and im thinking cookie's home tab editor because every rom ive installed that has CHT freezes even after a new flash.

here is the kicker.....when i boot into android the screen responds fine with no errors. it lags a bit but i expect that from the android build. im running the latest froyostone V3.1 released Sept 29 based on the HTC Desire build and its running smooth, fast and the screen is responsive. i do get lags and short freezes on occasion but when i am on WinMo if freezes and will recover after I wait a minute or two and try to unlock. then after awhile like the next morning when i try to check my texts or emails it is completely frozen and i have to do a battery pull.

i also have an old tmobile sim card probably about 5 years old now. I wish Tmobile would replace the sim cards when upgrading to new phones like AT&T does.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ysl4527:
:)hi,

Everyone, I just bought a Tp2 (t-mobile), I went to some chinese bbs, and tried some rom, but working on my cell not 2 good. and I still confuse about the language, Do I have to flush a rom with chinese? or I can just push chinese language into my phone?:confused:If I can how?

Is there some good people can made a chinese version rom 4 me pls? cuz I don't want to keep flush the rom, just want to get a good rom which is speedy, and every functions working ok.:rolleyes:

And by the way,this my first time to post, really hope can get somebody's help!!!:p, I used to have a G1, but I lost it when I was playing basketball.:mad:. And I really want to learn how to put chinese language into the rom. Thx again!!!:) Here is my msn:ysl4527@hotmail.com.

Pls reply me either here or msn, I appreaciate again.Thx a lot!!!

Leo

2009-12-6 13:57:28

update:question sloved, thx!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HackMimic:
There is a chinese cab out there. i have it somewhere if i find it i will up it but it will make chinese readable on the TP2. i use it so i can communicate when i traval to china.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ysl4527:
thx for reply, but can you give me an address to download it?:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] EQUiLiiBRiUM:
Hope This is What you Looking for.... CLICK HERE

But not for nothing... I"m Not Chinses nor Do I desire a Chinese Rom and I found this By Clicking "Search" and Typing in "Chinese Language Rom" :p

Why would people Wanna Help you if you don't Help urself ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HansTWN:
If you just want to input and read Chinese (but have an English language device) you can do what I do. I use Atom's ROM CHT with Manila 2.1 and additional PlumSIM 6.1 for both simplified and traditional input and it works great. Alternatively you can download the full Traditional Chinese version (everything is in Chinese) from HTC Hong Kong using my serial number HT989LL00828. If you want to input Simplified Chinese you still have to get PlumSIP.

Finally you could get CE-Star. But I am having problems with the display in some programs and the onscreen keyboard is tiny, so I prefer above solutions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ysl4527:
thx, guys. I've already found the chinese.cab:D, and the chinese input~~
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] oskai:
can you share which .cab file you download? Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] leeneo:
in this , http://ricky119.com/chinesesupport/ ,you can find many useful resource , Chinese(Asia Language) support for Non-Chinese ROM , i suggest you choose the one can support Chinese PinYin Seek in dial panel ,this is important and very very helpful .

as friend #5 said , it just support "input and read Chinese " only , i think is's enough

but if you want a 'chinese language WM device ' , i surmise you can't find it here ,you would find it in any chinese website ,such as pdafans , 52dopod...etc
[General Topics] jackhappy:
Sweet, thanks!

Just to clarify: You're saying that the Passion/Dragon is a completely separate phone from the Bravo, right? Or are you saying that the Bravo was just incorrectly rumored to be called the Passion/Dragon?

Also, what are your thoughts/insights into this rumor that the Passion will be released by TMob US in the first 2 weeks of January? Do you have any info on that particular phone (specs, dates, etc)?
[General Topics] stroba:
Yey!

Oo, I have been waiting for this the whole day! :D Thanks!
[General Topics] nathanpc:
Waiting with anxious! :)

Congratulations.
[General Topics] Andy5:
So no Passion or Dragon in january, just bravo?
[General Topics] B3ler3fonte:
Most probable yeah....unless something changes the very last min...
[General Topics] danidentity:
Bravo in April. Nothing in January. :(
[General Topics] wonderbread57:
Thanks a lot for the excellent infoz B3ler3fonte.

Many of the pictures say "T-Mobile NATCO Day". Does this mean these phones are only going to T-Mobile and what is "NATCO Day"?

Do you think the April release date will be the earliest we see a new HTC performance phone?
[General Topics] B3ler3fonte:
I was about to mention about the TMO logo on them, but i ran out of....15000 words limit :confused: :p :D, so i was watting for som1 to mention it. So, this logo was due to the fact that TMO is interested on those mobiles for the 2010 as @ Vienna each and every Operator, took its brochure with what has been already agreed.

To make things even more clear, no i DO NOT work for TMO, it just happned to have this brochure which was meant for TMO and the NATCO Day logo, is just for internal TMO days with global Ventors such HTC, to make deals and they call em NATCO days ;)

If nothing will change soon b4 2009, then yes, the earliest of the next flagship HTC model, performance (see "Bravo") device from HTC, will be on April.
[General Topics] Cata-Kai:
Wow this is awesome! The Bravo is by far my favorite of them all! Thanks so much for leaking this out! :)
[General Topics] jackhappy:
Too bad... I was really hoping for a 4.3" Android, Snapdragon 1Ghz phone. Guess I'll just have to wait for the WinMob HD2 since the "Passion/Dragon" doesn't even exist :(
[General Topics] galaxys:
Excellently presented :) Now we have lot's to digest & think about for the long April wait :(
[General Topics] MinotaurOnyx:
@B3ler3fonte, Aw Snap. Please, just stab me through the heart one more time. You are NOT saying that the Dragon/Passion is a separate phone. You are saying that Dragon/Passion does not exist. You are saying there is only the Bravo and its coming out in APRIL?!?! I just need to understand this clearly so I can go out and buy a MotoDroid tomorrow.

Thanks for the wonderful work (no matter how much it hurts).
[General Topics] ryanjones:
I am wondering this also.
[General Topics] Cata-Kai:
The Bravo is looking so hot!
[General Topics] samac92:
thank you very much for posting this, we appreciate it!

I and many other will be disappointed to not see a 4.3" android device.

Just one question: you say this is a brochure of phones T Mobile was interested in? does this mean there could be other HTC devices to be released that aren't in this brochure because T Mobile isn't interested in them?
[General Topics] dynasty30233:
I agree with MinotaurOnyx..I guess this means I can get the Droid Eris now..No sense in waiting for a phone that does not exist...At this point we don't even know if the HTC Bravo will even be a US phone.
[General Topics] MedioGringo:
I think the Passion/Dragon does exist in one form or another, remember it was in the leaked 2.1 ROM list. Also, from what I recall of the rumors, the Passion/Dragon was supposed to be released Q4 2009, and this is a 2010 brochure. So the rumor of a so-called Passion coming to TMo in early Jan might still be true--it may have been targeted for Dec but just got pushed back, therefore it does not appear in this brochure.

However, that image the Unlocker had a few months back of an Android device with a big screen probably was the Bravo, as B3ler3fonte suggested.

So the big question is, if that device with the big screen was the Bravo, what the heck is the Passion/Dragon?

Also, those of you that are now thinking about getting the Hero or Droid-- get a one year contract. It's only 70 bucks more for the phone under a one year contract on Verizon. Too much good stuff coming out next year to get a 2 year contract.
[General Topics] 513:
The Bravo is just perfect. Nice to see it can read DivX on a beautiful AMOLED display.

I think that 3.7 inch is just perfect for the screen, 4.3 is way too much.

4 month to wait, just for my birthday :P

So the successor of the Hero will be the Legend I think. Nice evolution, new screen and new processor too.
[General Topics] wonderbread57:
Thanks for the further description.

What are your thoughts about the list of HTC codenames listed by an XDA member a few days ago? The list mentioned the Bravo and the Passion/PassionC/Dragon separately which suggest they are separate phones.

source: AndroidSpin

The info in that link is no where as credible as what you have just posted but given the overlap in some model names and your knowledge, it would be good to get your opinion of it.
[General Topics] pidsw:
What about

HTC Spark

HTC Ruby

HTC HD3?

These are WM7 models due around sept.
[General Topics] Shasarak:
Source...?
[General Topics] psycho46:
So i made group about the HTC Trophy on Facebook to see how many of us want this handset.

It´s not clear if the Trophy will see the light of day so let´s push it!

Maybe if there´s to many of us asking about the Trophy HTC might clear it up!

Make it happen!

Became a fan where http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=lu...d=324301339857
[General Topics] mazzarin:
Why do people keep bringing up the HD3? There will NOT be a HD3 in 2010! There is just no place in a product structure for it.
[General Topics] hidnface:
"No results found for lu...d=324301339857.

Check your spelling or try another term."

link down?
[General Topics] krjcook:
I'm hoping the Trophy may become a reality soon. The Photon, Bravo, Legend have all been announced leaving only 4. HTC's facebook page has a poll up stating that they're labs are working on a new device and they need help with a name. The poll consist of the HTC Jovi, Zeal, Wildfire, and Festi.

http://www.facebook.com/HTC?v=app_20678178440&ref=ts#!/HTC?v=app_20678178440&ref=ts
[General Topics] mschumacher69:
HTC Trophy

Any news on when will the HTC Trophy be released?? I've been looking for a full QWERTY capacitive touch screen device for ages and I couldn't find one so I was gonna go with the Touch Pro 2 or the Acer NeoTouch P300 but now I found out about the HTC Trophy and believe me I fell in love with the phone and now i want it more than anything! That's what I wanted in the first place, I wanted a front QWERTY keyboard with a decent size capacitive touch screen (I have the SE P1i) but I couldn't find one that's why I was gonna go with the Touch Pro 2 or the P300!
[General Topics] DeathmonkeyGTX:
I want Snapdragon at 1+GHz with a real qwerty, sliding tilt screen. If It's not out by the end of Q1 2011, I'm going to be pissed.
[General Topics] mschumacher69:
Yeah I wish the Trophy has the 1Ghz Snapdragon, maybe those specs are preliminary and it will, you never know!
[General Topics] mschumacher69:
I found this yesterday :D

http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wir...c&utm_term=HTCTROPHYBKEU&utm_campaign=froogle
[General Topics] browndirtcowboy:
the sku HTCTROPHYBKEU could be a fake. unless i can see a real pic of this device. but i was wondering why are there so many cases available for htc trophy at ebay. of course, there are not specific for the trophy. but if it's a fake why should somebody try to sell this? and what about the screen protector?

look at ebay and search for "htc trophy"...
[General Topics] jmannyjr33:
It could be that the "GooglePhone" could be the passion.
[General Topics] w00yee:
thank you so much for this big christmas gift!! :D

to bad that Passion is just a bubble... :mad: guess i have to go to SE X10... I love big screen monsters..
[General Topics] dynasty30233:
Very good point...MedioGringo..The Passion/Dragon was scheduled for Q4 2009 so it would be in a 2010 brochure. I think it does exist but will be a late Dec or early Jan phone due to being pushed back. The Bravo is awesome with that screen type and size. That is the one to get but we will have to wait and see on carrier information in April 2010.
[General Topics] chrisomnia1:
thanks for the hard work. always nice to see new hardware.

i thought the hero successor was going to have a slide-out querty?
[General Topics] Pecoy:
so htc is not making a version 2 of the g1?

theres no qwerty sliding with d-pad on the left for emulator games, 3.7" capacitive,android 2.x with flash. coming from htc? that sucks..

im probably gonna just have to get the x10
[General Topics] wooikok:
waiting anxiously....for Tera....:P
[General Topics] mtbmtbmtb:
bravo has divx and dolby

NICE!
[General Topics] Diego!:
This is cool stuff!

Thank you so much 4 posting it :)

One question for everybody, doesn't HTC Photon look like HTC HD2 but smaller??? It's the same design! :rolleyes:

Anyway, I loved, loved, loved both of these phones:

HTC Bravo & HTC Buzz

Please release them sooner than April, my birthday is March 8th :D
[General Topics] tbaker077:
And an AMOLED screen. I saw the AMOLED on the Omnia II and I was blown away by how nice it really looked.
[General Topics] mbernstein:
Very dismal for people who want a productivity phone (slide Keyboard) with all multimedia goods: good processor (800mhz or more) , good camera (a good 5MP) etc. This Tera looks like a TP2 minus 5th keyboard row... (?)
[General Topics] brummiesteven:
OMG! I was gonna get the Xperia X10 but feck that now! I want the Bravo right now!
[General Topics] J-Hop2o6:
don't forget the Tera is also a 3.0 screen and the battery is now down to 1300mAh for some reason?
[General Topics] mbernstein:
Yeah, I was leaning towards the Sony X2, and now it seems I am going that route for sure, leaving HTC at least for a while after my Wizard and then a very liked Kaiser...
[General Topics] booser4:
Don't wanna cause a riot or anything, but I might have found a flaw in that brochure on the Bravo section.

The first picture you linked for the Bravo...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/NyoR/2009-12-0619-07-17_0013.jpg

Look at the "User Experience" section... The first sentence says the following....

"Websites, maps, Videos, and Images come to life when viewed on the Incredible."

Keyword... INCREDIBLE

The "Incredible" is another model that was listed in that recent leaked ROM List....

The paragraph of that same section later on refers to the "Bravo" but why does it mention an entirely different model first, considering the whole section is supposed to be on the Bravo?

Just seems odd, and more like this could be as unconfirmed and speculative as anything else. I don't doubt the source here, you seem like you are genuinely trying to help out and give what you have, but everything must be questioned at this stage. That discrepancy and the image quality, while it may just be your scanner, could raise a lot of questions.

No disrespect meant at all though, just pointing something out.
[General Topics] tbaker077:
Well the Bravo does have an AMOLED screen so maybe they were referring to how incredible the screen is? Again I saw the Omnia II with an AMOLED the other day and that screen was unbelievably very nice for a phone screen.
[General Topics] orb3000:
Tera

Thanks for this!

I´ll definetlly like the Tera

Let´s see how many of this are really coming on 2010:)
[General Topics] wonderbread57:
Given the amount of new-to-the-blog-scene imagines I find it difficult to discount the contribution here.

On another note, I believe this leaked list is not the complete HTC list of phones for H1 2010 since all the phones listed are under T-mobile UK's band, not T-mobile US or CDMA. I understand that if the source of this brochure is from T-Mobo UK then we'd only see phones that work on their network. So, where are the other phones and might the phones omitted from this brochure have different and perhaps closer release dates? Android is big in the U.S. and not so much in Eruo. I think it's safe to assume that a U.S. carrier will get an HTC phone of some sort before 2nd half of 2010!
[General Topics] booser4:
Sorry if my 1st post comes across a bit brash, didn't mean for it to sound that way. This could also just be a screw up by HTC in a very initial brochure that isn't meant for the public...

B3ler3fonte all the info is much appreciated, more than we've been able to get in quite a while now. Thanks!
[General Topics] mykpfsu:
I'm confused about something then. You've stated there is no such phone as the Passion or Dragon as it is really Bravo. But I'm curious how that holds true if the information you're going off of is the Tmobile brochure. Just because there is no Passion/Dragon phone for Tmobile doesn't mean it doesnt exist. For instance Tmobile Europe got the HTC Hero and Verizon got the HTC Desire. The Desire would have not showed up in the Tmobile 2009 catalog.
[General Topics] plukacs7:
Bravo, by specs is instant get.

Except... where is the curved design???? Oh HTC don't go mainstream, at least not on Android phones. This device looks like a frekin' pumpled up Iphone.
[General Topics] tbaker077:
If the Passion/Dragon does not have an AMOLED screen I can easily say that the Bravo is a better device just for that fact(add that to the fact of the better audio chip and the same cpu as the dragon/passion).