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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Thermopyle:
Yeah, but I haven't ever got it to boot, so I didn't know if the flashing was working correctly. I think it is since it says update complete, but since it's not booting, I figured better safe than sorry.

I've now tried on two different SD cards:

fat32 only

fat32 + ext2 partitions

every Kaiser nbh

every Tilt nbh

Every time it behaves just like it behaves if you boot without an sd card in the slot. I'll go ahead and order another sd card for ****s and giggles...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aerotrike:
largest SDHC

Has anyone build the system with a larger sdhc card. I have a 8GB card and am having problem installing the os in the EXT partitions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] levanvy83:
I have problem with the sdcard, when i remove or mount sdcard, the phone does not recognize it when I insert or don't mount again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SuperJMN:
I think it's a known issue. I only tried one that had this solved: KaiserDroid. You have to install both system a data into NAND, though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] levanvy83:
Thanks, I installed both system and data into NAND too.

I cannot connect to gmail or add Google account to sync though I can connect to the internet using browser and sign in to gmail by browser :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idumych:
No sound

Okay I just did a clean install of the latest polymod with dzo's latest firmware (March 12) and I have no sound whatsoever. Kind of useless as this is a PHONE. :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Partitioning large SDHC problem?

Hi, I see you referenced my fdisk use experience, but I do not see any explanations to your problem, can you please tell me more about your issues and what goes wrong with your 8GB card when partitioning?

Please be aware, that WinVista messes up partitions sometimes, so they are no longer visible in Vista (except the FAT32 one) and gets easily corrupted and thus unusable for install. Anyway, this is Vista problem, because it just does not expect more than 1 partition on the card (as all the windows does) but XP at last does not corrupt them... this is just my observation, because I see all the partitions ok in the mobile or XPs, but Vista asks to reformat!

@All newbies Hey guys, please be aware, that flashing to NAND creates only the linux bootloader there! you still have to proceed with instalation after hitting D-Pad center when it asks :) Maybe I am just underestimating you, but I see a lot of messages, that seems to me as being this particular problem :D Anyway... I've found, that it won't boot sometimes untill I pull out the battery and put it back... so just try...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
Large SDHC card problem

I have a 8GB SDHC and made the ext2 partitions with gparted. So it should create the partitions correctly.

But still I had the msm-i2c error.

Because of that I switched to NAND use.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chow_chow:
mic dead and no internet with POL200

I installed polymod 2.1g on my polaris. Wifi works with random drop outs. I can't access internet without wifi (yes I have entered the APN settings for my carrier - O2 germany).

I can make phone calls, but the mic is dead, but I can hear the other side.

I have radio 1.59.44.02 and Basefiles from 02-20-2010.

Any idea ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] iseeka:
audio problems still present even with 1.59.44.02...

Someone posted it usually happens after a battery charge or sometimes after a phone call.

I hope polaris users get a new nbh soon with any fix and bluetooth too ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SuperJMN:
Also waiting for it to be released! .NBHs for us, Polaris users, are missing in action :S
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clmartin22:
Is there anyway to get rid of my Windows Mobile 6.5 at start up, it just really annoys me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
You have to flash another bootup screen or how that is called.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anothertmobilemda:
1.when i end a call i get an annoying tone beep. even if the phone is on vibrate. anyway to eliminate this ?

2. i cannot get my call settings to accept my att voicemail service number...2532090379 (portland or) i can manually call it and it opens my vm box.

3.gps takes longer than 10 min for a lock outside

4. celluar location does not seem to work period. even with wifi on

(us att tilt)

flashed to NAND

kais100

nbh used KAISIMG-PANEL2-320.NBH 3.2 MB 2010-02-20 422
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] alheira68:
For kaiser, i think is better to go for one of the 2 better kaiser radio for this... or the last one, 1.71.xx.xx or 1.65.xx.xx ... and check if the sound problems continues...

I got sound problems...and after change my radio everything goes on good way. And Wifi it is working also.

Best regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hunterr:
Finally with the latest nbh's from 12-3 my phone boots all the time now, before it rarely did.

However, wifi won't start now, fixing file permissions in de installer did'nt work.

Any solutions? fix file persmissions manually?? (kais130)

radio 1.71
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] alheira68:
Ya ... some times, when i reboot the system, during the boot, if the boot says, welcome Android Linux... for sure will be stucked on Android.... so, i tested...just turn off the phone and take of the battery during some minutes.... then, power on...and voilá... normal boot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] alheira68:
Ya... about this anomalies, after the logo Smart Mobility of my kaiser, sometimes during some seconds... (the times depends....) appear this random screen anomalies... then the tux apear and normal boot... i don't know yet why this happens... probably the wrong panel... but i think i have the one, with better results... ( for 320 of resolution)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] alheira68:
Ahahah ... i remembers that times, 7 years ago.... when i started with Linux... ufff when i remember...ya, sometimes the correct name was suffering... =) but for sure now... it was learning... but much time waiting and trying... ( old times with Big War for wireless drivers... correct Xorg configuration..and so on ).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djkoa:
Polyman

Check the last post on the BT threat. I checked. Is working. Try here ;) Is big step!

Hugs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
What you mean old times, lol, I still have touble getting a decent xorg.conf, and don't even talk to me about ubuntu's support for acx100 wireless chipsets, lol, which is why i dumped ubuntu and went back to good ol slack, it's more work, but it's easier to do the work....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I have been watching this since the very beginning when all you could get was the home screen to come up and nothing else. I am not a developer I have just really wanted android since I heard about it. What a fun and frustrating ride it has been.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clmartin22:
are there any good android bootup screens out there
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Poly has a bootsplash file for kaiser on the first post of this thread, just flash and forget ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clmartin22:
don't see that in the first post, I have nexus one animated x, but right when I turn on my phone it still has the big windows mobile 6.5 logo, that is what I am trying to get rid of.

Any help is greatly appreciated, still learning about all this stuff.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anothertmobilemda:
a little assistance please

odd. I searched and am the only one experiancing this ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
^^ :)

It is a little buried now, but still there ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
1. tone is normal after ending call...

2. I am guessing vm is usually set by sim card

3. for me sometime gps take several minutes other time it locks in seconds.

4. cell loc works for me...maybe geographical diff?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
1. Never had this, but I do get a bleep tone when shutting down that I never used to have.

2. Sorry, never set up voicemail before, don't recall seeing anyone post anything on it either, may just be an obscure bug no-one noticed yet though.

3. I have noticed that it does take a while on a fresh install, since we don't have any fresh satellite data I expect this though, after a few locks I do notice the time decreases significantly to about 1-2 minutes, however this behaviour is normal for gps devices that have no agps input for initial fixes.

4. I'm not certain that cell location is fully fixed yet, it has been problematic and buggy for some time now, cell location does not use wifi, it uses the cellular radio network, which is partially turned off when using wifi ( modem is halted).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
Is anyone experiancing problems where task would randomly start..when i go to taskill or taskall, all the programs i never opened has popped up. if i kill them a few hours later, they will be right back up again.

I think this is what kills my battery the most

Next thing, anyone notice that the ok button using panel 2 doesnt work on the keyboard? Panel 2 is for the tilt right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anothertmobilemda:
yes i have the same issue with programs randomly opening.

and panel2 is what i use for att. i also confirm the ok button next to the jog wheel has no function
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
maybe there is a way to stop them? have you tried anything?? and what about the ok key in your qwerty keys?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anothertmobilemda:
the "ok" key on keyboard acts like the center d-pad when pressed on an item or link
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I have not noticed where any tas randomly open on mine, I use panel 2 and have no problem with my ok button are you using the proper keypad type in the nbh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Tasks don't actually run randomly, linux regularly schedules certain tasks to run, especially mail etc, which is usually set to run at certain intervals. You can usually change this behaviour in settings.

The keypad and panel are two different things, the panel refers to the LCD panel (screen), only. the keyboard is set in the cmdline parameters passed to the kernel at boot time, these settings are hard-coded into the nbh, and can not be easily changed, ( in haret it's an easy edit of the cmdline in default.txt, look for the 'board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0' line).

I'll try to have a look at the keypad, it may be possible to change, ( but will require hexediting the nbh, or hacking the cmdline in the device somehow).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
WOW, I left for a few days and there was like 100 additional pages since I last checked this forum. Amazing...

Anyways, sorry I have been gone for so long, I just upgraded to the Backflip (I know it only has 1.5); but after playing with this build I can't wait for the 2.1 for it. Anyways... Since I am spending a lot of time hacking the backflip, I have not had a chance to keep up here, so if anything needs to get fixed on the FAQ's, please PM me or I may never see the change. Or if someone wants to take it over, create a new post with that info, let me know and I'll redirect to the post in my original FAQ. Again PM me if you do.

Thanks and good luck with this build; it is wonderful

@poly; I'm so used to your background that I had to add it on my Backflip, again thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djkoa:
Poly!!!

The BT and Wifi are working perfect on donut! What ab to pack into new version? ;) Would be very nice to give us this big functionality

Next step: Camera!!!!!

Hugs

PS - There is also a new Openeclair 1.2.2 3D ?! u think 3D can work on kaiser? hmmmm
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
I am using haret so i changed the default.txt file panel=1 text..it fixed my symbols being out of place but when i hit ok to send the text or go back to the previous page..it just flash the input text here pane..its not a big problem just asking

i have been doing gps test for 30 min...not signal..i did turn 3g off on modem thought because i dont have a data plan

where in setting do i stop them from starting
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] manu33xtro:
Yeah we hope to get a new version of nbh coming soon :D

I use NAND and sometimes I can't hear partner with my Polaris... Sometimes It's impossible to get a communication : I have to wait for few minutes and after It works :confused: And sometimes I loose network and have to find a new one with parameters...

But still I use this build because It's the TOP :) Thanks Poly...

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
BT is very close, for now stay with the SourceForge .NBHs/kernel as recommended, don't use dzo's .NBHs -- he is not building from Eclair, and they are not stable for Kaiser yet.

We already have 3D working, we had it before the G1 guys did :)

Cheers j101399j, how do you like the Backflip? I have been thinking about getting a Tilt II, since I need an AT&T phone and Android almost runs well on it now :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clmartin22:
No I have the same thing even if it is set to silent
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Diznario:
Duplicate Software Keyboards

Not sure if this is really an issue or not, but here's something strange I just noticed. It appears there are two separate software keyboards installed and enabled.

You can see what I'm talking about by going into Settings/Applications/Running Services and then clicking on Android Keyboard.

On that page, there are two entries for "Android Keyboard", and they can be enabled or disabled independently. Both are enabled by default. Note that they seem to be slightly different versions, as one has an entry for "Voice Input" while the other does not.

FYI - This is a NAND install of 2.1 Gamma on a Tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clmartin22:
thank you installing now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
THe last few days all I seem to have done is tell people to use the SF nbh's or the older dzo ones if they really need the keypad changed, lol.

Honestly guys, if you mess with the bleeding edge, you will get problems, it's inevitable, always keep a backup sd card with at least an android nbh you trust, or even a winmo rom you know works.

Yes it's exciting to try the latest stuff, but it's always going to be a rough road until the problems settle down, I think I know what I'm doing in android now, and have indeed messed about with new zImages, nbh's, edited system files and installed experimental modules and fixes, and I almost always end up reaching for my backup install SD to wipe it all out and install 2.1g for it's daily stability and dependability.

If you have no issues with helping dev new stuff, and having to reinstall every few hours/days, then go for it, but make sure you know that you can get yourself out of whatever you get yourself into :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Thermopyle:
I bought a new 2GB Toshiba SD card today.

I still can't get past the splash screen when trying to NAND install.

This is quite irritating as I can't really think of anything else to try. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jaffarbp:
How I killed my facebook

While writing an SMS message I accidentally pressed function key and left softkey (dunno how to call them, the ones on the hardware keyboard that are small and have just - on them) and well I got into the same text I was on the boot. What did I just do ? :D (after that facebook stopped working and my phone reseted most of my settings to defaults, deleted my facebook contacts and refused to start facebook again (some katana just didn't work))
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ruz:
Further update:

Battery life seems to be holding up well on my 2 year old Kaiser130, although its not been used overly much.

Quick question - just discovered my USB headset thing that I got with the phone doesn't work - I'm assuming that's related to the speakerphone function not working as per the first page notes. Can anyone confirm?

Cheers

Ruz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
the usb headset does have problems sometimes, usually if it's plugged in while sleeping/off, however I find it usually detects most times if the phone is active, sometimes it takes a few plug/unplug attempts for it to activate, try using osmonitor to watch the system messages, you should see a state change for usb headset when it detects.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
I think you accidentally found the key combination to switch to console mode, press fn a + right softkey to get back to gui mode.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ruz:
@Zenity Sorted, thankyou :) I had plugged it in when asleep when I tested previously, and when I tried it awake it worked and I saw the headset message using osmonitor.

Ta muchly,

Ruz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] twinklesam123:
headset

Hi there, well i always use my headset...as soon as you plug your headset in, just press the volume button a few times...then it will surely detect it...and after u unplug it...press it again...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] despatcher:
Why do I need 'Reboot' ???

i know boot and shutdown, i have clear cache and taskkiller....

I do not need...:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seancojr:
There's an application in the market by the name of Startup Auditor. It's not free however, costs about $1.99 USD. I've used it to disable certain apps from launching after boot and to prevent them from starting themselves back up. Not all apps respect it though, I occasionally find some still running, but it helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
wouldn't it be better to just know where the programs are being launched from and remove the unwanted ones from there?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Beackman:
Hey poly, one trick to how want to partition your SD card via windows,i used Paragon partition manager, and work best so far. cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seancojr:
Not all applications started automatically are necessarily unwanted altogether. For example, an app such as Calendar may launch itself to perform a sync, you don't want to remove it if you still need to use it. The issue these two are reporting is about being unable to keep the apps from auto-starting, not so much as removing them from their device (though that works too, being the obvious).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
yes zeneith says u could stop this from settings, but there is no option in setting for this as i can see

Also i been trying to get a signal from gps test for an hour.....nothing...

i used modem to turn 3g off to stop data charges
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
the one thing I haven't grown used to with linux after all the years of using different versions, is that there always seems to be just one more rock to uncover to find where an unwanted program or service is being launched from.

depending on the disto, there is at least a half dozen different places to have a program launched from on startup and almost as many to run a service.

the trick is learning where all these places are and choosing what you want running automatically and what you only want to run manually.

this is the only real ***** I have with linux (Ubuntu especially) is that even after removing an unwanted program from several different places it will still be running because I haven't found all of the launchers.

I am sure a more advanced linux person could point out the half dozen places with ease but for us wannabes it is frustrating.

I don't want to have to uninstall a program just so it isn't running all the time.

could someone please point out where the locations for autostart programs as well as services. (and I don't mean in the settings menu...I mean actual system folder locations.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Yaantra:
tower location

Just curious... was this incorporated in the latest build? does this work?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Nice on the BT; since I still have my tilt, that is a nice addition.

As for BF, Love it; even though it is locked to high heck. Can't change most settings, can't kill apps, no SU and no non-market apps (well I found a work around) and it is stuck with yahoo search. Even with all of that, most owners, inc me love the phone. It just works; and once it is unlocked it will all that more fun. My wife played with it for a little while and she had to get one. Now she is on her phone as much as I am :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
I use only virtualisation, I've installed ubuntu under vmware and the application gparted (free and the best partition software ever).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Beackman:
Yes, Yes, best combo ever.

But my netbook no have CD drive, i no have linux instaled and i will install in other patition in weekend.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nicolas550:
pb with Polymod 2.1g + HTC touch cruise (Polaris)

Hello,

I use Polymod 2.1g on SD card.

I use Haret to lauch Android.

1er

I can't lauch android once on 10. I bug on black screen.

2nd

the phone don't ring when call come.

I can call and I can speak and hear.

But he don't ring.

one idea ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jaffarbp:
turn up ring volume ? I had that 'problem' yesterday :D go into settings and check them out...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Polarfuchs:
Here had been written so much. Is there a fix or update for bad and slow wifi available?

I really need wifi, because I use my phone 80% for wifi surfing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] remora9595:
I'm wondering if anybody else is experiencing loss of GPS signal with Google Navigation. It'd work fine for like a couple minutes then lose signal and never get it back even though Maps and GPStest can get a signal just fine. I'm on 2.1g with eclair vogue btw.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] maneki:
Hi all, my radio version is not supported, how do I updated it? thx and great job :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
You need to flash a new radio. Visit your phone's rom forum on how to flash a new radio.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] CrayedZz:
after a phone call, all speaker sounds moved into call speaker..

well, just the music, so when i play a music, i can only hear it from the front speaker, not the back one..

anyone got this problem?

well, a reboot fixed this.. but well i dont want to reboot everytime i received a call =(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] piotrv:
I have no clue why the devs/builders don't adopt my suggestion I posted here.

It also has been proven to work great with Donut

Well, they probably have a good reason :D

I always customize these power manager settings for every new build that is released, and it makes wifi working absolutely great for me, without effecting the battery too much

Give it a try. If it's not working for you, too bad !