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[HD2 General] karlpj:
I agree with you that HD2 is flawed. Perhaps it can be solved with future updates. I simply point that HTC touch pro 2 is not a flawed phone or that at least any problem is a lot less visible. Independly what you or I think it is true that both phones are designed for differnent markets. HTC calls touch pro 2 a bussiness phone and not HD2. I'm sure that HTC will release the next version of HTC touch pro 2 this summer, they always do that. I had the HD and the HD2 and I have found both phones cumbersome and buggy for bussines, but they have his own market that preffer less phone and more multimedia. I will keep the HD2 for now anyway because I'm surprised of the speed and how good is brownsing internet, not because it excels as a phone.
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
what i am so courious about, is what phone do all this naggers will switch to ? geezzz
[HD2 General] Bluecharge:
By the way, I find maati and Holy Bear immoderate exeggerating. They should stay factual. Who wrote anything like HTC is evil? Who wrote that HTC is worse than other? Just nobody. Stay cool!

Why entitling somebody as a troll?

Emotional flaming on others is not the right way to discuss in a forum, you should know this.
[HD2 General] meptik:
Agree completely. I still love my HD2, but it's absolutely ridiculous that the device isn't able to reliably send an SMS. I've owned many phones in the past and, yes, all of them had some bugs. None, however, were as critical as this.

People have every right to be upset about this, I feel - especially when the first update sees HTC focusing on "improving flipping through music" instead of tackling the SMS problem :mad:
[HD2 General] lentinen:
so far crap experience eagerly awaiting new rom

I completly agree, i bought this for business use mainly and the email bug described above makes this phone almost unusable. HTC support promised last week a new Swedish rom by monday morning at the latest and it's still nowhere to be found.

/Markus
[HD2 General] OneGoodKnock:
Totally agree with you sir!
[HD2 General] karlpj:
I wonder, is HTC looking this forum? If I was HTC I certainly would look on it.
[HD2 General] here4info:
ahh! another of those threads..

i have been using HD2 for a week now, and apart from the occasional issues that i see with every new phone, haven't experienced anything major.. my guess is, this phone is attracting more iphone-esque users who want the simplicity and reliability of iphone..

as lot of people pointed out, OP please mention what phone you would be moving to!
[HD2 General] sunking101:
Who the hell doesn't want reliability? Never mind the iPhone, I haven't owned one but every single phone I have owned has been able to send SMS correctly and without fault. I could also turn the speakerphone and earpiece volume down from deafening levels. I wish you owners of supposedly fault-free HD2s would stop labelling the rest of us as incompetents or expecting too much from a handset.
[HD2 General] kuzibri:
to be right or not to be right, is the question. Is it really???
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
Must admit I hesitated before adding to this thread but what the hell.

Some people seem to be making broad-sweep assumptions about others here on XDA which I don't understand, given that those people have never approached me directly for my opinion.

Fact is I like threads like this where the OP gives a factual view of the problems he has been having and why he has decided to give up. It is useful information, especially to those who are considering buying the device but want to know more before committing.

I understand that some viewers have no use for threads like these but please speak for yourselves only, do not speak for me.

The device is flawed. Some people can accept that and live with it and some can't. It does not make either camp wrong.

To any of you who wish to share their negative experiences in a FACTUAL way, please continue to do so. Do not be bullied by a few on here. You have the right to speak out.

WB
[HD2 General] jakem:
These threads really are pointless. A few people can't work out how to send an SMS or use a soft keyboard and we have to put up with this constant whining. Rather than start a new thread, why don't you all just add these pointless comments into one of the numerous other threads that discuss the same boring topics.

What is the point of telling the world that you're getting rid of a phone? We get it already. You couldn't get it to work and now you're getting a different phone. Big deal.
[HD2 General] kuzibri:
second that, WB
[HD2 General] jakem:
That's a matter of opinion.
[HD2 General] wacky.banana:
Exactly. Doesn't make that view wrong though and does not give others the authority to come down on people with that view just because it is at odds with theirs. That's the point I am trying to get across.

Where would we be in the world if that happened? All the hard fought freedoms that exist today would be for nothing.

Remember one man's meat is another man's poison!!

WB
[HD2 General] spastik:
Completely agree.

What is the point of openning a thread after selling the phone?
[HD2 General] sunking101:
Now if this isn't spam I don't know what is.
[HD2 General] omneity:
Without them anyone who hasn't visited the forum for half-an-hour might have forgotten the sunking101 has problems with typing, the phone volume and SMS sending on his HD2. :D
[HD2 General] _tangent:
Interestingly, I've never had any problem with call quality or volume. Equally, the SMS bug has thankfully not effected me either. I actually didn't expect the earpiece speaker to produce great sound before i bought the device, because i had foreknowledge of it's slight profile - the physics behind speaker design favour a deeper cone with a lighter material and a larger magnet. Again, everything is a compromise - there's no such thing as a free lunch.

Bugs in HTCs interface are indeed regrettable and probably close to unacceptable. They are not, however, deal breakers for me or many other users. HTC have development budgets and deadline constraints just like every other manufacturer. If you want a more sophisticated handset, you should be prepared for the fact that it may well be unfinished out of the box. Developers can only do so much and remain cost effective. You can either pour your budget into testing and stability, or into enriching the feature set. You can't have it all for half the price.

People keep mentioning the iPhone, and it really is a great example of this. If you close your architecture, castrate your functionality, and focus on mass-market basics, you can create a very slick and stable end user experience. But what is the cost? A fascist like approach to software development and greatly reduced power, flexibility and function. I'm a software developer myself, and apple's approach to the iPhone OS really does clash strongly with my philosophy about computer technology.

In any event, i think any sane, rational human being would recognise that it's a little strange to continue posting on a board concerned with a device you no longer own, purely to complain about it. People just need to get over it. It's just a phone.
[HD2 General] myth1001:
Yeah , another thread filled with same people with same stuff.. again and again.. and again and again.
[HD2 General] sunking101:
So someone starts a thread criticising various facets of their HD2 (I didn't start the thread might I add). Then the same old fanboys dive in being aggressive towards the OP, accusing him of being inept, he can't use his device properly, he should buy an iPhone, all HD2s are perfect etc... yet when I join in the thread I am slated for coming out with the same old stuff. What about the fanboys? If it weren't for people like me the forum would be overrun with aggressive, HTC loving psychos! :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] DaveShaw:
Another one... /sigh.

Dave
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
Today I dialled my voicemail to check for messages as it seemed odd to me that I had none in the 3 weeks i've had the phone?!

I found 11 messages sitting there waiting to be listened to, some of which were very important!!!

Where is the voicemail notificaiton?? Is this just my phone??

Karlos.
[HD2 General] weepatc:
Go into Sound & display in manilla. Click on Notification sounds & then select Voicemail on (this is disabled by default). Then go into All Settings > Sounds & notifications > Notifications in Winmo & select a sound for Voicemail. Hope this helps.
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
Yeah that is on and only gives a one off sound but what about an icon on the task bar??? If I dont here the sound then I have no idea that I have a voicemail!! lol :confused:
[HD2 General] weepatc:
I get a missed call icon on mine & also have set up with Vodafone to receive a text message. I am using Brians Taskbar. Are you using the stock taskbar?
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
Missed call icon doesnt tell you there is a voicemail though does it?

I'm using Brians too but only as of today, so I get nothing on that or on the stock taskbar.
[HD2 General] edgerfs:
Just checked and I too had voicemails waiting, where is the symbol on the taskbar?!
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
Yeah exactly!! Yet another bloody 'bug' for us poor HD2 users lol :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] Isadora:
Not quite the same as a taskbar icon... but in all settings > sounds and notification, there's a "display message on screen" option for voicemail
[HD2 General] Fergus278:
I don't know if the notification system for orange and vodefone is the same as o2, but when i call my o2 voicemail there is a setting for notification types. ONe to send you text, one to call you back and the last one is to send a voicemail notification to the phone.

The last option is what enables the voicemail icon in the taskbar.
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
I can get the notification with the LED but it keeps blinking after listening to the voicemail (when the message has been leaved with the HD2 turned off only). That's really annoying.
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
It's better than nothing if it stays on the screen until you close it or listen to the message?!
[HD2 General] Isadora:
No idea, haven't tried it but I assume it stays on until you dismiss it.
[HD2 General] LondonTownGuy:
Same problem here with the standard taskbar.Taskbar Icon is missing. Im getting stupid texts such as >@ or H@ I wondered what they meant untill I check my voicemail and found 2 messages.
[HD2 General] Xaddict:
LED Notification

Mate this is a feature!

How did you get it to work without realising?
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
ah is that what they are? I've had the same random messages! lol
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
Sorry i haven't understood.
[HD2 General] Bakedbread:
does anyone have a solution to this?

ive been using my HD2 for about a week now and never realized this either (Im on Rogers network in Canada)

I just did a test by leaving a voicemail:

I get a missed call notification

a SMS about the voicemail

but NO VOICEMAIL icon! (usually looksl like the little tape)

Does anyone know how to fix this?

I've been into the "Sounds and notifications" menu and checked "Phone: Voicemail" and checked off "Display message on screen"

but still no icon on the taskbar?

Anyone know? :(
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
I've not found anything yet mate :(

At least you get a SMS notification!
[HD2 General] haplohaplo:
I've just read through these and I'm thinking you are after the same thing I am. But just to be sure, I'm going to reword what you are looking for. Because what I am looking for (since I also get the missed call, and the voicemail text) is the option to simply tap the voicemail icon and have it dial into my voicemail automatically like I used to be able to do with my htc tytnII. For now I have to go to my phone screen and press and hold one, which I find a pain as some times I don't have time to check my messages right that moment, but I hate turning off the phone with the missed call and voicemail text still there, so I get rid of those, and then forget to check voicemail later. Are you guys talking about the same thing? And has anyone yet found a solution if so?
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
No that is not it!

We do not get a Voicemail icon so do not know that we have a voicemail!! :(
[HD2 General] haplohaplo:
Okay, I understand. I get a notification by text about the voicemail, I'm just not sure about a one step macro that will dial directly to my voicemail like I used to have on my tytnII. Anyone with suggestions on that?
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
I have the same thing!

But when I try to setup my voicemail number, under: Settings (Manila) --> Wireless controls --> Phone --> Voicemail and Text message, here you see that you can enter your "Text message service center" and one for your "voicemail number". When I enter my voicemail number (for me that is: +31 6 2400 1233) and click on done, it will not save my number :mad:.

Someone else can clarify if this is the solution and if they can save the number in there?
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
Message centre number is for text messages isnt it? As you dial up your answer phone!

I'll look though and see if I can change and save my MCN........
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
Any luck? Or is it totally something else?
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
Yes I can change and save my MCN, but this doesnt effect the AP notification :(
[HD2 General] Diamond Dave:
I'm also on O2. I left a voicemail for myself, and got the missed call icon, followed by the text message icon. The text message said there was a voicemail.

I dialled into voicemail and went through the settings - it currently said that I had notification of voicemail via text message. I changed it to option 3 which was something like 'to be notified of voicemail by display on phone'.

After leaving another message I get the usual voicemail on the taskbar - the one that looks like a little tape.
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
For t-mobile I can not do that, only a sms notifaction message or they call me :S. BAH!

Such a small problem, but it so big ffs!
[HD2 General] malix007:
Same problem here, no notification icon. (little tape icon in the taskbar)

I sometimes get weird text messages when somebody leaves a voice message.
[HD2 General] chrisnash:
I had this problem years ago on my TyTN I I think it was. There was a fix back then called 'SMS Providers (Fix VM Notification) but this doesn't work on my Leo. In fact it really buggered things up and I had to hard reset.

Basically it seems to be a problem with SMS_Providers.DLL

Have a look at these threads:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=411989

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=299072

Unfortunately none of the fixes in these thread work with the Leo.

Any ideas anyone?
[HD2 General] JamesSt:
I've been having the same problem since I bought the phone.

Following the advice above, I dailed into my voicemail and managed to enable icon notifcations in one of the options (replacing the defualt of SMS notifications).

All is working fine now.

I don't think it's a problem with the phone but a setting with the network provider.

I'm on Vodafone in the UK.
[HD2 General] chrisnash:
Good advice - I'll give it a go
[HD2 General] jools5431:
SMS sent notification

Slightly different problem. On all my previous HTC phones I've always got a "message sent" notification. I ask this as I have had numerous SMS's dissapear into drafts when I thought I'd sent them.

Is anyone else getting a notification?
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
Will try that as I hate the SMSs for VMs...what options did you use?
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
got it working, call your mailbox, go to mailbox settings, notifications and select icon notification...you get a little reel icon for VM...

**This is for Vodafone UK
[HD2 General] alkorsi:
...I do not find it! Could you please describe it step by step???
[HD2 General] EddyOS:
Call your mailbox, listen to the options and go to mailbox settings (think it's option 4). Then select notifications (can't remember the option number) and then it'll say 'text message notification selected' and give you other options to choose from. Press the number for icon notifications and it'll select this. You then get a little reel (like a video) icon on the taskbar
[HD2 General] alkorsi:
can I find this in the original windows mailbox settings or in the htc mailbox settings? Because I try to find this by using the message option in sense :-(
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
Some one got it working for t-mobile (NL or something)?
[HD2 General] alkorsi:
starting from home - messages - inbox - menu - options:

I can see only: "request delivery report" (and some other MMS settings) but not yours :-(
[HD2 General] chrisnash:
You have to dial up your voicemail and go through the options on the phone. There is no software option on the device for this.
[HD2 General] chrisnash:
Damn - Orange UK do not have the option to change the voicemail notification type - only to turn notification off and on!!
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
call orange UK, maybe they can help you or tell you when that function will be avail!
[HD2 General] jb14:
I went through my 3 mobile voicemail box - no options at all to change notifications!
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
What do you have (provider)?
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
His provider is 3 ;) lol
[HD2 General] jb14:
Yep as Karlos G stated, Three (3) is my mobile provider. Wouldn't particularly recommend them tbh. My contract finishes in a few months and im off!;)
[HD2 General] chrisnash:
Well I'm going to be leaving Orange soon. Apart from the lousy 3G reception where I live, they seemed to have stopped taking on any new HTC WinMo devices - only the the Touch now and thats sooooo old ;-)

Being trying out voda's data connection here in London and it is so quick. I get full HSDPA reception most of the time at usually about 1.5mps download and the upload is faster than my BT line!!!
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
Rofl didn't know there was an provider 3 :X. If you really want this, maybe you can contact them, maybe they have a way.
[HD2 General] vally13:
I think the issue comes from Orange that don't support this option. Even in France I have the problem : no available option when I dial the voicemail. Only SMS or call from the voicemail.

Orange sucks on this!
[HD2 General] jarrodp:
I am on Vodafone on Australia and had to dial 1218 to configure SMS notifications for voicemail and now at least I get that to tell me I have a voicemail. No options for me to set icon notifications unfortunately.
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
Mine now works, icon on the start bar and main screen!!! :D

I think it has been working since I did the last SMS Hotfix, but I dont get that many AP messages so couldnt be 100% sure.
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
Hmm @ t-mobile Netherlands it still doesn't work :-/
[HD2 General] malix007:
I am with Orange UK and had the same problem of not getting the voicemail notifications, But suddenly from 9 am today I have started to receive voicemail notifications (the little tape icon) for new voice messages :)
[HD2 General] XTREEM|RAGE:
/me stabs malix007 in the face (<-- irc owns :D)

Nice, so it's really provider independent :/
[HD2 General] Flection:
Worked for me, thanks!
[HD2 General] SS_381:
Thanks, knew it was a setting somewhere, and was pulling my hair out trying to find it on the wifey's X10 mini!!!

Seems network providers (O2) set it as SMS by default - stupid!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idinaxui:
something wrong with the rootfs file, cannot download:(, can you upload to another mirror server?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
Thanks! Downloading and will try it later.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
mirror added
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Areinu:
Does it work if one has PIN set up on his SIM card? I know 1.5/1.6 didn't. I would check it myself, but I don't have PIN and I heard that once set one can't undo it on my SIM card...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djp3k05:
polyrhythmic, because of you, we can test this new build. We value your contribution and we are not left out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aikeru:
Wow!! Thank you! I'll have to try this out! I'm pretty newb when it comes to HaRET :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Here guys, i modified the rootfs from polyrthmic to work with msmissions and vilords eclair hero.

Uploaded second version with init.eclairhero.rc as init.eclairhero.kaiser.rc

Changelog from Polyrythmics one

:

-

copy init.eclair.kaiser.rc to init.eclairhero.kaiser.rc

-

works with http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=599907

http://rapidshare.com/files/320878683/rootfs-eclair-andeclairhero-kaiser.img
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
I installed this version and:

- it works slow - first version for kaiser so I understand it

- BT and WiFi not work

- GPS - I didn't check

- something strange with battery - when charging it shows i.e. 73% and battery widet shows 77% but this is probably not Your fault ;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djp3k05:
:) It seems to be a full night. and it seems that we still have devs on our Kaiser phones. God bless you all. Now I test Zen's build, and after that, thanks to JeckyllHavok, msmissions and vilord's build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] paulharrison123:
No idea how to get this to work, not had trouble before with Ion donut.

How is it meant to look on the SD card?

CONF

MEDIA

default.txt

haret.exe

initrd.gz

rootfs.img

zImage

system.sqsh

is how mine looks, is this right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Updated my rootfs. See my post above now works ith eclairhero
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
Looks like you and I are working toward the same end :) Come and join me, let's keep the Eclair Hero discussion in the Kaiser Eclair Hero thread :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
That is how it used to be done. Now we make an /android/ folder in the root of your SD card, and put all the files in /android/. conf and media should be lowercase, because case matters in Linux.

So, it should look like:

/android
/conf
eclair.user.conf
hero.user.conf
...
/media
default.txt (or startup.txt)
haret.exe
initrd.gz
rootfs.img
zImage
system.sqsh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] paulharrison123:
Many thanks, managed to get it working with the old style which was odd, however no wifi means i cant use this :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djp3k05:
same here, unable to start wi-fi. it does not create de calibration file on the sd card.

is fast, like donut.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] czarnas:
how to clear data partition?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
During boot, when it says Press VolDn, press VolDn (left softkey). Then follow the instructions on-screen.

I'll see what I can do about the WiFi, 3G data works great for me so far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djp3k05:
polyrhythmic - would be great if you fix this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
I would love to help with Wi-Fi but I can't find a terminal app on the phone. Am I just missing it. Please let me know. Thanks :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
No, bash is not in the image. I added the one from Donut. I'm no expert but I believe since your carrier has imposed the PIN restriction you will need to talk to them or maybe you haven't fully unlocked your phone. I can't say since I don't know your carrier but are you sure it's not CID locked or asking for a PUK?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] phjott:
No, the problem is the PIN-check. Can't remove PIN-check in WinMo, so when I boot Android it can't start up, because it wont work when PIN-check is enabled. But this is with the earlier versions, so I wonder if anyone has got the PIN-check to work with Android..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
How long should this take, i've been waiting a while, but still no startup. I'm tweaking the builds and i don't know if its an issue i've added or i haven't waited long enough.

Can you please add an approximate time?

Edit: waited 9min 02 secs