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[HD2 General] sintoo:
I tried to put long_send.lnk to my /windows but after holding the button, the program doesn't run.

Is it long_send.lnk (with .lnk being hidden in FileExplorer) or just long_send ?

Thank you.

I have a Jade with WM6.1.
[HD2 General] Cetin:
anyone using voice dial on hd2 now?

I have installed vito voicedial and it is working like a charm without headset mic.

If you could start app by pressing bluetooth headset and telling the name you stored before it would be perfect...
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
Cetin,

thanks for your post, just to make sure:

1: - are you using HD2 ?

2: - is the voice command going through the BT to the device mic ?
[HD2 General] Cetin:
Sorry you misunderstood!

I´ve just installed the app (vito voice dialer) but it is not working with bluetooth headset anyway.

Only the device mic is recognizing voice and recording voice for names too even bluetooth headset is connected and working.

edit: ...sure using HD2, too!
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
i see, this is basically what it is all about in this thread :)

anyways - did anyone try the registry tweak turning the hd2 to "normal phone" on the bt ?

any cheff or programer will try my idea on resetting the BT from one of the prev posts ?
[HD2 General] Free Man:
To reiterate. The below registry tweak supposedly fixes similar issues with built in bluetooth car systems with our HD2's:

Registry Tweak Steps:

1. Find the registry string: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys

2. Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476

This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone. I can't believe no one has tested this yet here!
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
just did the tweak

no damage and i think no gain...

the playback of the command is comming from the device

tries from a distance using my plantronics - it did the voice dial but still playback from the device not the BT

the question now is how do we check if it is really working from the BT (the recording of the voice command) - i don't care if the playback is from the phone as long as the recording is from the BT

any ideas ?
[HD2 General] precsmo:
Really no need to make a post and complaint and show frustration. You can just find one and install it. WM is the fun of tweaking and adding tons of apps. Enjoy!
[HD2 General] Reason4444:
Do you really know what are we talking about on this thread ???? :mad:

Please, understand the issue firstly, then jump the thread...
[HD2 General] filar:
Voice dialling working perfectly with wired headset! Thanks!

I installed Duttys Cyberon Voice Speed Dial cab, and voice dialling is working perfect. I am not using BT but the wired headset, so it suits me perfectly. I also tested with a pillow over the phone, and that confirmed that the microphone in the headset and not the one in the phone is being used for voice recognition.

A long press on the headset middle button triggers the voice dialer automatically. I have done nothing more than installing Duttys cab.

I added this post just to say thank you for the help, and to inform others that it works perfectly with the wired headset. :)
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
it does not work...

so we are back to the beginning
[HD2 General] :
ZeevG,

plase correct me if I'm wrong, but the only issue that is left is how to make bluetooth headset button start VoiceDial? Dutty's cab seem to work fine for me except that function (altough I can start it with "answer button").
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
ok - i am correcting you - you are wrong :)

the "only" issue left open is having the BT device be used for the voice command not the phone's mic.

we have now solved the long press talk button and the BT application activation so just this tiny thing

i have also found what is needed and we know it is because the BT inner system is chanched in HD2 (pls read previous posts to follow) so if one of the chefs will take it and either be able to change some internal software code to fix this or just create an external application that we will assign to this task that will reset the BT and then launch CVSD as it is now clear - the very first time you activate it works and then for some reason it goes back to phone's mic

hope i made this clear
[HD2 General] pat12:
Brilliant! Do you have any idea what's the name to use for the rest of the hardware buttons?

Edit: I answered after a search and the post I read was explaining the long_send.lnk shortcut, hence the question above, but I just realised I'm a bit out of context since the discussion has long shifted to the BT bug...
[HD2 General] Free Man:
I can also correct you and confirm that all of us that have tried using the functions that ZeevG just mentioned are having the same issues!
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
ok ok, let's calm down after we all expressed our frustration and complaints :)

there is a problem and HTC are either ignoring it or just don't give a damn, now we can keep on this mood or solve it...

i think solve it is the way (dear HTC please keep in mind that such things might cause you guys a big risk as if you did such thing and keep ignoring your clients you will left with no clients and alll because this "damaged" flag ship... think about it and try to help us save your product especially now when all the gorillas out there are up and looking for guys like us to convert)

is there any one that can give it a try and do either the code change (if have access to it) or bypass as i suggested earlier ?

let's join forces and have this one solved so we can move to the next one - call recording :):):)
[HD2 General] skellletor:
with aebutton plus
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
my solution...

ok, as we got nothing from HTC and there was no cheff to pick it up - here is the solution i have adopted and it seems to be even better than what i expected.

no BT no nothing is used -

1: my car audio system have an AUX jack (most modern cars have it)

2: hd2 has a normal headphones jack (unlike all htc so far)

3: simple cord with 2 DIN ends and that's it

plug the cable to the htc2 earplug and on other end to the aux

when phone rings just switch to aux (anyhow you need to mute radio)

and you will get the voice in top quality

ah, did not forget the voice dialing :) long press on diall (green) will invoke the CVSD and surprisingly if you will record the tags from some distance (not too close to mouth) it will do the job with ZERO errors

so now i have removed my BT handsfree as i got a much better quality solution.

and i promise - no more HTC for me if they keep this kind of attitude,

we the users are actually keeping them alive and they just ignore us and do what ever they wish, so if we ignore them sales will drop and then let's see what they will do - run and chase us like a yound lad after a girl... :)
[HD2 General] Reason4444:
Thanks for all of your suggestions...

Interesting,.. My car (Toyota Avensis 2009 Premium) bluetooth connection is flawless.. Voice dialing & answering, Voice command recognition & conversation with CAR MICROPHONE (tested several times, several methods.. I'm sure my voice command & conversation receiving & transfer from car inbuild microphone - not hd2 mic..)

If anyone tested this function (BT voice dialing) with BT 2.0 & 2.1 compatible headset ?? Is this issue related with BT version or what ? :confused:

i dont want to believe this.. I want to use my BT headset when i need it.. :mad:

HTC please note it; I'm a wm user several years and HTC customer of course.. If you don't fix BT voice dialing, i'm really look other brands.. If you care or not... I think you hard deal with "smart functionalty" of your devices, but missed some "essential and basic things"... :mad:
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
pal, there is no doubt - HD2 does not work with BT voice command.

if you look back in this this thread you'll see that we have done all possible tests - it is not working.

what you may have is what i had - only first time it works and then it goes back to phone mic & audio

simple test do a voice dial go through it till you hang up and then try to run again voice dial - listen carefully where is your vice being sent from - you will get it from phone speaker...

and yes i am more than in same view with you - htc just spitted in our face and keeps ignoring us... they changed the bt core so nothing will help unless they will release a new version of voice dialing nothing else as we will otherwise have to mess with our phones. another thing lost is call recording and all just because someone there did not thik it all the way and replaced the bt core killing all that was working so nice, and the funny thing is - hd2 is supposed to be their flag ship - my god no one there understand what they've done ?

there are other devices today with simmilar hardware but with all the inner systems working and i really consider replace my device as voice dialing and call recording are critical for me, and i know of others that feels the same
[HD2 General] anaadoul:
Are you sure the AUX method works ok?

i Have tried that alot with my TP2, HD, X1 and my Impreza 2.0R, they all result in echo in the other end!

anyone can confirm the echo?
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
oh yes, it works perfectly.

everybody keep asking me what am i using now as they know i am a gadget man, when i tell them nothing only aux they just can'r believe the great quality. and i have tried it on a few cars some with internal audio system some with a crappy radio disc - all worked like charm, who needs handsfree etc ?

yes i came to this as a last resort and found it is the best, now i removed the bt handsfree from my car totally

the joke is that is someone (htc ??) would provide a bt solution i would never find this simple and good solution

all other htc versions with the funny usb plug can haved an adaptor to normal earplug and connect it to aus, i showed this to few friends and the also tried - all are happy

be happy too...
[HD2 General] Free Man:
It's a creative solution and I am glad it works, for the interim. But it is certainly not a fix and indeed nothing we should let HTC slide in on.

It is totally unacceptable to have every single user test back with the same bluetooth issues with a multitude (every brand thus far) of headsets that simply do not work reliably or consistently with any current remote voice dialing solutions out there today (such as in this thread).

I propose that each user send in a support ticket to HTC to get them working on this bug. Simply put, this functionality was not ready before the release of the phone. I have seen this happen also with the HTC Touch Cruise, and one of the new ROM updates finally fixed it. It isn't a matter of IF they can fix it, it is simply a matter of when.

Submit a support ticket today, don't wait. So far many of the other issues with the HD2 have been at least addressed if not fixed.
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
i totally agree, i am not in the habbit just to complain and blow hot air :)

i have left HTC few notes so far no respond...

but if we all flood them with notes they just may wake up...

sp please pals - go to htc.com and leave a nice complaint note...
[HD2 General] Free Man:
Message Sent via HTC Europe. Awaiting response. I was very clear that any and all brands of bluetooth headsets thus far tested do not work reliably and that any attempt to use remote dialing or commands via said headsets results in:

a.) the first attempt working correctly (most times), while the second attempt all sounds and the microphone are going through the phone instead of the headsets microphone and speakers AND that after rebooting the cycle begins all over.

b.) all audio prompts are also going through the phone speaker instead of the remote speaker, again.

Basically in terms of bluetooth remote dialing we have go ourselves a verifiable lemon on HTC's flagship phone, which was just featured at CES a few days ago as the mac daddy of phones...but cannot even properly implement basic bluetooth functionality.

I encourage everyone here to voice their concerns specifically with this issue. We have to attack one issue at a time. So far HTC has listened in regards to a few other big bugs, but not this one.
[HD2 General] pioppone:
this voice dial is a big mistery...

HD2 not have

Droid not have

N900 not have

Hero not have

iphone 3g not have (3gs I'm not sure)

nexus not have

but the engineers who design these monsters do not use the car?

this function are (for me) indispensable... I do not know which phone to buy ..
[HD2 General] Ianhd2:
Thank you for the voice dial program, its the one i had on my HTC Touch cruise and works great on the HD2 also

:)
[HD2 General] Ianhd2:
Thank you for explaining how to assign a shortcut to voice dialing on the send key, now got back something i used often with my old HTC phone :)
[HD2 General] Free Man:
The voice dial works fine, the remote voice dialing from a bluetooth headset does not...
[HD2 General] casouzaj:
I posted this last November, on another thread: WM6.1 has native call recording capabilities. It just requires activation via registry changes. Follow the instructions found here (credits go to Saijo George). It works fine on my Acer M900. Hope it does the same on your device.

Cheers!

Carlos
[HD2 General] stuart-buchy:
I use leon's rom with call record and whe I want to record calls I use speaker and both sides are clear.
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
6.1 is non issue we are on hd2 and wm6.5...
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
break through ? htc responds...

just got the following mail from HTC - perhaps the penny fell ???

Dear Valued customer,

First of all we would like to apologize for the delay and the inconvenience.

On behalf of HTC cooperation we would like to apology for the inconvenience.

Our customer care department has been instructed to investigate this issue immediately, and we would contact you back once the investigation is done.

Please note that you could also contact us by phone; for more information on that service please go to http://www.htc.com/mea-en/CA_Hotline.aspx?region=MEA

Thank you for choosing HTC the PDA maker to the world

HTC

Sincerely,
[HD2 General] eskasi:
Seems like a standard response.... but any news is good news at this point.

On another note, My MSVC activated through my headset once all on it's own (no soft resets were made in a while and last few calls had sound/notification coming from the phone)... It seemed to happen when I was fiddling with the stereo headset plug... I was fooling around with the jack and an FM transmitter in the car and decided to make a call... I wonder if it's a hardware issue too? The TP2 also has a standard 3.5mm jack also does it not?

I have not tried to replicate this yet ...
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
let's wait and see...

as per your TP2 - it is still with the old kind of odd USB interface like all HTC old devices
[HD2 General] Marv-in:
In newest 6.5 ROM for HTC Touch Pro 2 has been apparently this bug repaired according to this article (and video): http://pocketnow.com/software-1/whats-new-in-the-windows-mobile-65-upgrades-on-t-mobile

So I hope there will be soon a fix or new rom for HD2 also.
[HD2 General] ambler11:
...and my latest "non-helpful" reply from HTC said...

New Response From [ William (North America Support (Tech)) ]

Hello Tony,

Thank you for your inquiry regarding Microsoft Voice Command issues on your HTC HD2 device. I apologize for the delay in responding to your email.

I understand it is important to have a device that suits your needs, Tony.

Our records show your phone was manufactured for marketing in the United Kingdom. Currently we are not aware of any software updates to facilitate the use of Microsoft Voice Command on your device. Any software updates will be on our UK support website www.htc.com/uk/support.aspx/.

We recommend you visit our user forum website www.htcwiki.com for further general information regarding this subject.

We apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced. Your email has been directed to the appropriate department.

I hope we have answered your question in detail, Tony. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions. You may also visit us at www.htc.com and our user forum website www.htcwiki.com for further assistance. In order to improve our service, I would like to invite you to participate in a survey on the worldwide HTC website at http://survey.htc.com/worldwide.

HTC Technical Support

http://www.htc.com

http://www.htcwiki.com
[HD2 General] eskasi:
Woah! Now thats proof that it can be done....
[HD2 General] Free Man:
Ya well this is not software specific as ALL voice command softwares do not work correctly when doing a remote voice dial (or command) via a bluetooth headset. So you need to rephrase your email to them so that they are aware that this is a bluetooth implementation bug specific to the HD2!

This same type of bug did exist with the HTC Touch Cruise until about a year in when finally a new ROM addressed it. I just hope they fix this before that point or they are going to loose a lot of business!

P.S. If you imported a phone from the UK, you really need to email UK HTC Support and not American support as they do not do anything with UK phones unless they are also in the US, which these phones are not.
[HD2 General] Free Man:
HTC got back to me and tried to shirk responsibility simply by the mention of a third party application.

I pinned them down and explained that in the advanced bluetooth settings there is a setting called "Audio, Hands Free Related Settings" that specifically notes that if checked, the HD2 will "Play system sounds on remote hands free device". This is exactly the opposite of what is happening. The first time we use it the sounds play in the remote headset, but the second, third and so on are played back in the HD2's speaker. To restore proper functionality you have to reboot the phone again. This clearly makes it a bluetooth bug in relationship to core functionality as it was intended by HTC itself.

This also applies to the microphone issue, as the first time it tends to use the remote devices microphone, but after that time it goes wonky and uses the microphone of the HD2 again, ignoring the remote devices mic.

I sure hope they stop trying to stair step this issue and fix it. It is so odd that this exact problem has been an issue for HTC phones for 2-3 years in as many phones as I can remember, and yet they continue to churn out poorly implemented bluetooth functionality!

If they do not fix this soon, this will most certainly be the last HTC device I pick up as much as I love the HD2. They had better step up to the plate and recognize the problem and give us some positive response as to their intentions on fixing it.
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
bless you free-man

it is so odd of them to release such a high end device - their flagship to compete with iphone and it is so bad... didn't they hear of QA ?

every crap device or software or any other kind of product is going through hell on QA and HTC are arrogant enough to release this kind of high end, super expensive device in such technical condition ?

it sure shows how they feel about us - their clients who put the buck in their pockets - they just take us for granted! and this pisses me off
[HD2 General] Free Man:
I recommend starting a new support ticket with the specific issue I mentioned above, as it negates their ability to blame it on any third party software.
[HD2 General] Gadgety:
I agree this is poor. I've been searching for a new mobile device during the past six months or so and unfortunately the mobile high end is rife with similar problems. Acer's Neotouch apparently can't do the BT voice dialing, neither can Nokia's advanced N900 etc etc. As a result it's looking like I'm getting the latest Omnia II, despite it being a slightly old device, a tad slow and laggy, but it does have the BT headset voice dial feature working in cooked roms. I'll miss the great XDA-forum, however.
[HD2 General] Soerdahl:
Brilliant :D
[HD2 General] terry1738:
I dont want an iphone but......

I have just come from a very unfortunate experiance with a N97 and thought the HD2 is going to solve all my problems but alas no.

No voice control - what is HTC thinking, if you live in most civilised countrys in the world (except the US - but maybe it doesn't qualify anyway) it is ILLEGAL to use the keyboard on a mobile phone while driving.

Voice control is not an option its a nessecity and a damn important one.

I have looked at all the options now, the HD2 was the perfect answer for me but no voice control means its off the list, and while I hate the iphone for its appaling hardware and locked up software, everything it does it does perfectly (except the camera - no flash, what a joke) so it looks like I am forced to buy the damn thing.

The problem is all the other manufacturers are playing catch up as they are being creamed by the iphone, if you dont think its true just look around you and see what people are using. So the manufacturers are forced to release their phones half baked which then destroys their loyal customer base who eventually give up and buy an iphone. Its happened to me, I was a loyal nokia fan but never again.

Anyway I have another 2 months before my contract runs out so just maybe HTC can get this issue solved by then. Come on HTC you can do it, you have the best contender on the market, you can knock the iphone out in the first round if you just supply the basics and make them work properly.
[HD2 General] Free Man:
Is anyone else actually submitted a ticket to protest this ridiculous lake of support an essential function?

Or the fact that remote headset volume and microphone features still do NOT work when using ANY voice dialing applications currently available for Windows Mobile?
[HD2 General] liangliem:
support htc

i did, same answer, first the "third party excuse" and after letting them know that i'm a little bit beter informed i got the the answer that voice dailing is not a feature of the hd2, like itis lowest of model of there range and you can't expect that from such a basic phone ?!!?

i think they just don't care and think "well let them buy a iphone if they want things like voice dialing ".??????????
[HD2 General] Free Man:
Reply to them again, keep the pressure on! Tell them what you just said. Show them this thread if you wish.

Not support voice dial in the first place is unacceptable. My two year old HTC phone had it built in and it worked fully and it was half the price and never their fleet phone.
[HD2 General] hase01:
another idea

I read the whole thread and hopefully I am aware on what the discussion is about. Another idea which came into my mind (I don't have an HD2 until now, I am just in the decision process....).

1) I think just regular dialing with connected bluetooth headset should work fine- right??

2) It should be possible to create shortcuts on the today screen which should result in calling a contact. Together with connected bluetooth headset this should also work as expected, i.d. call should use headset speaker and mic

3) Could we use voice command sw no to dial, but to launch the shortcuts mentioned in 2? May be this way the HD2 does not recognize, that we use a remote device to initiate the call??

Anybody who want to give this a try

Hase
[HD2 General] Free Man:
Hands free voice dialing simply does not work, there is no way around this. I would not have purchased the HD2 if I had know that HTC would not support this functionality, nor included the software within it to do so. I hope everyone else looking to purchase will consider this carefully and look at how HTC so far is responding with a total lack of concern in this matter.

This is an age where most states, and even countries, are requiring the use of hands-free dialing and it is the LAW! How much more basic a feature can this be, especially since every other prior phone they have made supported this well by default?

Yes, you can dial by touching a contact on the phone and switch over to a headset but that is not the point of this thread at all. Any phone can do this that has windows mobile for the past many years!

This is not only an issue of prior HTC phones supporting this functionality out of the box, or competitor phones all pretty much supporting this functionality out of the box, but one of necessity for many (read most) who live where they are now required by law to not TOUCH their phone to dial out, or receive incoming calls.