yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnnyboy_CM@msn.com:
....Prayer Works :)

Okay, For Mac users. Make sure when the screen starts to load that you don't look away from your computer for a second. I had to click at least 4 times to reconnect my phone to my windows machine instead of mac. I think that was my connection error before. So now I have the updated ROM from HTC. Egzthunder1-would you recommend going ahead with the CID unlocker again?I'm nervous it'll get stuck like last time.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnnyboy_CM@msn.com:
Updated Rom

so do I have stock Rom since I got it from the HTC site for Us cellular carrier? Even though it is an updated one for WM 6.1 not 6.0 that originally came with the phone? Also when I go to bootloader it still says I have the SPL for 2.31 coke. Should it have gone back to like 0.00 or whatever when I updated the ROM? Sorry I'm new at this but am hoping to make phone OS my future profession. :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnnyboy_CM@msn.com:
..Sorta Fixed

Alright well. Never got it to work through the RUU. sooo I used the SD card trick. and it actually worked!! I ran an android till I decided I didn't like it and now am running WM 6.5 from NFSN. I'm enjoyin it so far. To people who are retarded like me, when they say name the .nbh file to "VOGIMG.nbh" don't actually rename it that. Rename it "VOGUIMG" and the extension should take care of itself haha. Took me awhile to figure that one out. While I'm on topic if anybody would like to shout out their favorite roms I'd be glad to try em out. Thanks for all your help EgzThunder!!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] BestHubris:
Thank you for this guide. I always find the unlocking part to be the most nerve racking since it sounds like this is the "forbidden" step, but with the exception of becoming nervous when my Win Mobile Device Center said "disconnected" it went painlessly.

Yea!

:)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
You are welcome. Sorry about not answering the other posts, but I haven't been around in the Vogue section for a few days... Glad you got it worked out. NFS should give you everything that you need in your device. However, getting the other roms and taking them for a spin is not a bad idea either :p (careful though, it is addictive :D)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Happy to see you got it working :)

I agree, it is nerve racking... particularly disconnecting from USB when you are in the middle of an unlocking process... I was sweating bullets when I unlocked mine.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnnyboy_CM@msn.com:
Unlocking

By the Way Egz, Since I never got it actually unlocked (That I know of) would that be why the GPS on google maps doesn't work? because I know people said they would get stuck on the carrier screen if it wasn't unlocked correctly so I thought mine was...not quite sure anymore?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
If you are running NFS, that means you are unlocked. The GPS has nothing to do with the locking/unlocking of the device. If you have a radio version 3.xx.xx or higher, your GPS is unlocked. There are a few things to check for in the configuration of whatever program you are using (the GPS must be set to COM4 with a baud rate of 4800, I have seen people claiming that it also works at 9600, but I am not certain). The one thing I will tell you is to be patient... it takes forever and a day for the Vogue's GPS to get a lock 9it should see satellites, but it will take a while for it to get a lock.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] johnnyboy_CM@msn.com:
Thanks

Thanks man, Your the best. As soon as I get a job I'll be contributing to all you guys on these forums that do the hard work! :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing NFSFan Rom

I have read most of the pages on flashing in this thread and have the following files downloaded:

CDMA Dialer

GPS Positioning CAB (Sprint)

Vogue RUU

NFSFan V1.0 Final

When I bought phone with WinMo 6.0, the previous owner said it was unlocked already. However, I eventually flashed in the newer stock Sprint 6.1 ROM.

I would like to follow the brave and fearless as on PPC Geeks and here in XDA world, but still need some guidance.

How do I know if my device is still unlocked?

How do I get my device into Bootloader mode?

In what order do I install the files above?

Device still using Sprint radio. Will I need to reinstall a radio after flashing?

Should I lock the device after flashing?

How many headache pills will I need after doing this? :D

Thanks

QnA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
All your questions are answered in the first few posts in this guide. The bootloader can be accessed by doing Reset (stylus) +power +camera. In there, if you don't see 2.31 CoKe, more than likely you are locked.

For flashing instructions, please look at the first 5 posts in this thread.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing

Thank you so much.

It shows:

Vogu100 MFG

SPL 2-31 Coke

CPLD 3

So the phone is indeed unlocked and I can try to flash the ROM.

Ok, a few last clarifications and I'm ready.

1. Now that it is unlocked and in Bootloader mode, I run the RUU, but are the VogueRuu and NSfans version 1.0 both complete RUUs, and the newer 6.5 ROM? I think so, but want to be sure.

2. I intend to use NSFans 6.5 ROM, but when do I install the CDMA Dialer, and GPS Positioning files he mentions?

3. Do I need to install a new radio, or will the installation keep the same factory radio I have now?

4. Is NSFan's ver 1.0, his newest one?

Almost there. I read over the first 5 posts and think I understand. Just need the last few questions answered.

Appreciate your help. I have learned a great deal from the fantastic people in this forum.

Qanda
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Timebomb in NSFANs ROM

I recently read about a 'timebomb' that was discovered in the ROM that NSFAN was using and his ROM is no longer developed.

Does anyone know if this is true? If so, which 6.5 ROM is reliable and will run on the Sprint Vogue?

Is the VogueRUU in the first few threads here as good as NSFANs?

Really confused now. Glad I didn't flash the new ROM without reading the other post.

Qanda

:rolleyes:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Hi Quanda,

1. I am not sure I understand your question. Just download and run the package you get from NFS' thread.

2. You will install those after flashing.

3. Not really necessary unless you are using a radio lower than 3.xx.xx

4. Yes

The time bomb was removed a while back if memory serves me well.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
I was trying to ascertain if VoguRuu and NSFANs ROM are the same upgrade to 6.5.

What are the differences between them?

I know you use NSFANs but why?

Also, if the version 1 NSFANs ROM clean of the 'timebomb'?

I truly appreciate your help. Just taking baby steps right now.

Thanks

Qanda
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
The VogueRUU is simply the RUU (no rom included). If you download the whole package from NFS' thread, you will have the VogueRUU and the rom (nbh file) in a single folder. The reason why I attached the VogueRUU to my guide is because, as I wrote before, many chefs opt to only upload the rom file and not the upgrade utility.

No time bomb in the latest rom either.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
I understand the difference now. However, my phone is presently unlocked with 2.31 Coke Unlocker.

The one thing I'm still fuzzy on is this. Once in Bootloader mode, and connected to the computer, I need to run ROMUU.exe (either your VogueRUU or from NSFANs package). Do I extract the files from NSFANs package and then click away on the ROMUU.exe?

Will the RUU take care of the remainder of the process? There are numerous files within NSFANs package. Do I need to concern myself with any of them, or are they simply there for the RUU to use in flashing the ROM?

I'll get this straight yet. :confused:

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] ruiner54:
This thread is amazing!!

Just wanted to say thank you for this thread!! I have been looking for a few weeks for all the file links and instructions in one place and found this. I hated Win 6.1 and was ready to get rid of the phone (even though I am impressed with HTC)

This ROM has breathed new life in to my phone!! I wouldn't trade it in for an iphone or a torch, etc.

Just a tip to anyone doing this. Don't freak out if win 6.5 hangs and doesnt boot right the first 1 or two times. I had to hard reset mine 2 or 3 times and then it worked perfectly. The best part is that the phone retained my number and I didnt have to set my service up again.

Thanks again!!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
ruiner 54,

Sent you PM re: flashing. Need to compare notes on Vogue.

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Just extract the contents of the zip/rar file that you got from NFS' thread. You don't have to worry about any of the other ones. The only one you will interact with is the RUU.exe.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Glad it helped :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing to 6.5

Ok, I extracted NSFANs package and found the RUU.exe file.

Won't interact with any of the other files. Now I need to get up the courage to interact with my device. :D:D

I'll let you know how it works out and which of the two dozen programs I have on the 6.1 work on 6.5. It may be a help to other forum members.

Any thank you for answering the PM.

Regards

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
egz,

Just got confused again reading a thread in XDA on NSFANs ROM.

It says that I need the Sprint MMS Cab. Do I? What is it for?

It also mentions a CARRIER CAB.

You only mentioned that the Provisioning CAB and CDMA CAB were the only other ones needed beside the RUU and ROM.

Will I ever get this done? :(

Oh help me again.

:)

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
The Sprint MMS cab is to install the MMS app (basically what allows you to send picture messages). You need to be more concerned with the carrier provisioning cab, which will configure your device to be used with your provider. Who's your carrier?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing

egzthunder1,

Gee, thanks for the quick reply. I guess yod didn't notice it in my signature.....I use Sprint.

I have the following files ready:

1. Vogue Unlocker (phone already unlocked)

2. eg's VoguRUU (for future flashing of ROMs)

3. NSFAN's 6.5 ROM upgrade (containing the ruu.exe)

4. Sprint Provisioning CAB

5. CDMA Dialer for Sprint

6. a prayer or two :)

I guess the MMS. CAB should be installed as well to have everything running. Don't normally send picture mail, but if the Vogue comes out good, then I might get to use the goodies more often.

Can't remember where I saw the MMS.CAB file now. :confused:

Are there any other 'surprise cabs' that should be installed?

Regards,

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing or burying?

egz,

Now things have hit the fan (NSFAN....:) )

The thread referred me to PPC Geeks where I found this Sprint package:

This file includes the following:

1. -Dcd Sprint Carrier .cab (sets up Sprint Connections) Updated 7/4/09

2. -GPS lag Hotfix

3. -Sprint I.O.T.A cab (adds Internet over the air option to

start/settings/personal/phone/services/internet menu)

4. -OzIM_Raphael_Sprint .cab (messaging)

5. -Sprint Picture Mail .cab

6. -Sms 160 (allows 160 Characters)

7. -Sprint Arcsoft MMS-5.0.82.79

8. -Sprint Navigation VGA-v 2.1.23

9. -Sprint TV VGA

10 -Sprint Update Profile and PRL (adds options to settings menu for generic roms)

This is an 'all inclusive' download, but which ones should I add to my "Rom upgrade process"?

Just when I think I'm understanding all this! :(

MY GOAL is to have the Vogue work better with more functionality then I have now. I am really afraid of updgrading, not adding all the files needed, and end up with something not working.

If you could let me know which numbers in the file above should be included in the upgrade (if any) would simplify things and I can get ready to do it.

Not as simple as I thought even with your great help. I think I might need to start a thread and call it.....

"Flashing a Vogue for dummies" :o

Again, my sincere thanks

QA

PM ME IFS YOU THINK IT IS EASIER THAN POSTING TO HERE.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Well, a lot of this stuff is really bloatware from Sprint (stock apps). If you want your device running smooth, I would only install (out of that list):

1. -Dcd Sprint Carrier .cab (sets up Sprint Connections) Updated 7/4/09

2. -GPS lag Hotfix

5. -Sprint Picture Mail .cab

6. -Sms 160 (allows 160 Characters)

7. -Sprint Arcsoft MMS-5.0.82.79

10 -Sprint Update Profile and PRL (adds options to settings menu for generic roms)

The fact that this list contains the IOTA add-on tells me that it is a bit old... Everything else will simply add stuff that you may not need.

Keep posting in here (that is why this thread was created :))

Ez
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing

Is the DCD Carrier cab (#1) the same as the Sprint Provisioning cab from NSFANs thread?

The one here is from 2009. If they are the same, which do I use?

Why is the Sprint Update Profile (#10) necessary for generic roms?

2/5/6/7 seem useful and won't add to much bloat to the device. (I don't think)

I can't find a GPS Lag Hotfix in the Sprint_Cabs RAR file. The only file I do not recognize is Rap S20089.exe

Is this the hotfix? Do I really need it?

Once I know what to do with these files, I should have a good list to follow in collecting files for upgrading the device.

You have been a super help. Yes, I will post here as usual. Only offered if you wanted to PM for your convenience since I was asking a lot of silly questions. :D Should have this worked out in a few days.

Right now, the file list looks like this:

Vogue_unlocker_MFG_2.31.exe

NFSFAN's WM6.5 1.00 FINAL ROM.rar

NFSFAN Sprint Provisioning. cab

NFSFAN Vogue CDMA Dialer - Diamond Skin.cab

Sprint_Arcsoft_MMS_5_1_.0.82.79.cab

Dcd Sprint Carrier .cab (sets up Sprint Connections) Updated 7/4/09

GPS lag Hotfix

Sprint Picture Mail .cab

Sms 160 (allows 160 Characters)

Sprint Update Profile and PRL

Is the order satisfactory for installation?

Regards,

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Your list looks good to me... I thought you said that you had already unlocked the device though...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing

Mornin eg,

Yes, it is unlocked. It was purchased used from a Sprint customer who was knowledgeable with flashing. I had it returned to the stock Sprint ROM when I first started using PPCs. It was easier getting help from Sprint at the time.

Is there any reason to LOCK-er the device?

I simply added the unlocker to my "6.5 Upgrade Folder" to keep all the related files together in one place for use.

What about the other questions in my post?

Regards,

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Go with the Sprint Provisioning cab. As far as #10, the reason I told you about that one is because I believe it has an updated PRL (newer than the one in the Sprint Prov. cab

Unfortunately, I cannot answer the question regarding the exe. I have never applied the hotfix, so unless you see something in the first post in NFSFan... I wouldn't install it.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing

eg,

I understand your reasoning about #10 since it is marked as an 'update' to the Profile/PRL, however, the DCD Carrier cab dated 7/2009 AND the Sprint Profile/PRL Update are both from the PPC Geeks site. The Sprint Provisioning cab is from NSFAN (thread dated 10/2008).

Why would you go with the NSFANs Provisioning Cab which is GPS related rather than the DCD Sprint Carrier Cab which is marked with a later date?

and do I need to re-lock the device? Mine has never been relocked.

I agree that if we cannot be sure what the Rap S20089.exe file does, the GPS hotfix can be dropped unless the GPS develops some problem we cannot isolate.

Also, I called SPRINT and the SMS has a maximum of 160 characters, so after updating, if the SMS has less, then I can use the file. Otherwise, that file will be dropped with the GPS Hotfix.

You have taught me many things in the last few posts. One of which is "less bloat is better".

Once the carrier cab issue is clear, I think I'm ready to sit down and go for it!

Regards,

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing

Well, maybe not yet. :)

After flashing to NSFAN's 6.5 ROM upgrade, what should be done about Active Sync that was part of the 6.1 ROM?

Will Active Sync work with this cooked ROM?

Thanks

Regards,

Now I should be ready! :):)

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
There is no reason to re-lock your phone other than if you are going to take it in for warranty purposes. If you are on CoKe 2.31, even flashing to stock won't relock it, so no worries there.

Just install Sprint provisioning cab. If it has a newer date, more than likely, it contains a newer PRL, so just go with that and forget about DCD. Worst come to worst, you can do a hard reset and install the other one, to see which one works better.

There are no issues at all with ActiveSync. Just make sure that you have the latest one (4.5, I believe). Other than that, you should be good to go.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Yes, I am still on Coke 2.31

Actually, it seems the DCD Carrier Cab had the more current date.

Originally Posted by qanda6900 Why would you go with the NSFANs Provisioning Cab which is GPS related rather than the DCD Sprint Carrier Cab which is marked with a later date?

Should I still go with the Sprint Provisioning Cab from NSFAN?

I sure hope so. Will get to it this week when I have sufficient time to resolve issues if things don't go right.

Here is the final list from your advice:

NFSFAN's WM6.5 1.00 FINAL ROM.rar

NFSFAN Sprint Provisioning.cab

NFSFAN Vogue CDMA Dialer - Diamond Skin.cab

Sprint_Arcsoft_MMS_5_1_.0.82.79.cab

Sprint Picture Mail .cab

Sprint Update Profile and PRL

Optional: Sprint SMS Character CAB (for 160 characters)

Regards

QA

PS: Didn't forget about the coffee and muffins....

I'm 'cooking um'. :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Sprint Services/Flashing

I recently read that Sprint has disabled the MMS capability of the Vogue.

1. Has anyone been able to flash the Sprint MMS file and have the MMS function work?

2. If I don't use Picture Mail, do I really need to install the Sprint Picture Mail CAB?

Thanks.

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
MMS

Contacted Sprint and they said the HTC Vogue is MMS capable and the feature is not disabled.

They were not very clear on the difference between Picture Mail and sending picture via MMS.

Typical Sprint support.....Everything is a secret or kept a mystery.

Glad there are forum members who can make sense out of stuff.

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
1. Yup.

2. Nope

Sorry for being cut and dry but those are the actual answers :D
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing

Ok and Fine. :D

Now to take the big plunge!

PS:

On another note, I don't think the currency of Sprint PRL file is so important since my Vogue updated the PRL automatically over the air yesterday. I imagine Sprint does it periodically, so eventually the PRL will be updated to the most current version. Beisdes, I seldom Roam.

Thanks

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Vogue MMS

Get a load of this crap from Sprint Tech Support:

" Pictures can be sent or received either via Picture Mail or through the MMS feature. Both the services (Picture Mail & MMS) are device related features. Your device is Picture Mail capable. It

is not

compatible for MMS service."

According to them, my device can only have Picture Mail or MMS.

After I install the MMS CAB, do I need to have Sprint do anything else to have the feature work?

Leaving Picture Mail CAB out of the installation.

Sprint charges extra. (of course)

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Even if you did have to go through them, most of them wouldn't know what to do :p

So, does it work fine?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing

That's for sure!

I have been away on business and just got back.

Still fuzzy on the Sprint Provisioning Cab vs. DCD Carrier Cab.

Q: Are they the same thing?

I came across a Sprint DCD Carrier CAB 20090704. If the SPC and DCC are the same....

Q: then how can I tell if 20090704 is more current than NFSFAN's?

I believe we discussed this before, but am not sure you understood what I was actually asking.

Q: When done, will all these features work with the new ROM?

Phone: in and out (I should hope so. :))

Voice Mail: normal functioning

SMS: in and out

MMS: We'll see. :confused:

Email: in and out

GPS: I think Sprint uses AGPS mostly.

Internet: std. browser (Opera 10 Beta)

911: Don't think this has been discussed before.

Q: I use Active Sync to synchronize my contacts, tasks, email, and calendar between the device and Outlook on the PC. Will this continue to work?

Q: I would imagine that the Vogue would need Outlook installed on it. Right?

Q: What do I do with this: IOTA_Internetovertheair_1128.zip ?

I even found and downloaded Mitty 1.42.zip just in case. Not sure how to use it, but I'm hoping that after all your help, I won't need it. :D

I think I'm all 'questioned' out. :)

Regards,

QA
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
You have got to be the most cautious person I have ever helped in this place :) Better safe than sorry I guess...

Anyway, on to your answers:

Will the following work?

Phone: in and out (I should hope so. :)) Yes

Voice Mail: normal functioning Yes

SMS: in and out Yes

MMS: We'll see. :confused: You may need to set this up but yes

Email: in and out Yes

GPS: I think Sprint uses AGPS mostly. Yes

Internet: std. browser (Opera 10 Beta) Yes (Netfront Browser does a pretty decent job as well)

911: Don't think this has been discussed before. Yes

Active Sync: Yes

All WM roms come with Outlook preinstalled. You have to make sure that you have it on your PC though.

Don't run the IOTA. This is pretty much useless and a pain in the you know where to remove it, afaik.

You won't need mtty for what you are doing.

Hope this helps...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing

duplicate....see next post
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] qanda6900:
Flashing

Maybe :) It's my nature, and how I learn things. Asking questions minimizes the risk. I truly appreciate the help you have given me. Your knowledge of flashing and of the Vogue simply amazes me.

Thanks for the clarifications. However, we have still overlooked the first two questions about the Sprint Provisioning CAB and the DCD Carrier CAB.

Still fuzzy on the Sprint Provisioning Cab vs. DCD Carrier Cab.

Q: Are they the same in functionality (purpose)?

I came across a Sprint DCD Carrier CAB 20090704. If the SPC and DCC are the same....

Q: then how can I tell if 20090704 is more current than NFSFAN's?

That's one of the reasons for the delay in flashing........

The other: I would hate to 'brick' a perfectly good operating device. :)

Thanks.

QA

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] scotttr:
not being on sprint I can't answer your question, but you can flash more than once or run more than one cab if the first dosn't work, you won't brick it.

are the cabs you have the same size? if not, not the same file