yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Advantage X7510 General] rjstep3:
I didn't realise it didn't have document creation ability that is a very good point.

However, looking around at the developers, it really does seem like everyone is calling time on WM development - I wish it were not so, I should be able to keep my kit going for another year or so, but let's face it, it's time to side-grade.

I remember when Psion went out of business, I kept using my kit for a little while, but it soon became too difficult to keep it running. The world had moved on - exchange sync-ing rather than simple email for one thing. It's very sad, I have kept with WM since I ditched my Psion kit, I thought Microsoft would be a safe bet and I would never have to change, but they screwed up in a major way.

I think Dell's Mini 5 is the way to go - but it will be a little time before it is ready, that is all. The Advantage should keep going for a year or two.

rjstep3
[Advantage X7510 General] rsawoseyin:
Android and the future of WM

As I said earlier, it is all about what you are looking for. In my view, WM will remain for as long as MS-Office remains the dominant productivity tool in our offices, and as long as Google has not ported its web productivity tools into Android in a way that they can truly replace MS-Office. The true death knell for WM will be when I can use Google Docs on Android and can sync my Android device with MS-Exchange. Of course, for those only interested in social networking, these are not a consideration and the Android is good enough as it is.

I would not even talk about Apple's devices. They are great for their cool factor. But I do not see them as serious business tools.

Over time, if Microsoft refocuses on WM, it could survive many more years as a niche OS, for those who want their "office in the pocket", especially if Microsoft collaborates with the likes of HTC to blend the best of WM with the usability of Android.
[Advantage X7510 General] rjstep3:
I think we are, as they say, in violent agreement.

rjstep3
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] WaterMan!:
Hey guys. Been off the scene for a while.

Which are the fastest, most stable ROMs out there now? I know cyanogen, but now I see ROMs coming up with Donut + Hero, are there any good ones for 32A?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ronni.rasmussen:
There is no such thing as "best rom" since we all have difference requirements for our mobile. Just find a rom there will cover your needs and decide what you think is best for yourself :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] betelgeuse74:
Hi WaterMan

Welcome back.

I am currently torn between CaSense 1.1.1 and Magic GyD 2.1.1.

Both are excellent ROM's. I don't use Bluetooth so I usually flash the 2.6.29 kernel, which is faster than the 2.6.27 kernel.

Both are fast and equal in functionality, but for some reason the Magic GyD seems a little heavier on memory resources, but I have not experienced any problems with speed or lag on either of them.

And both ROM's are, in my opinon/experience, bugfree.

Hope this helps!

EDIT: These are of course Sense ROMs. Magic GyD also offer a nonSense ROM, but I have not tried it. I'm a Sense-addict.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dunjon:
On my memory card I've got some single letter character files that wont copy off the memory card and I don't think I can delete them either. I kinda thought that maybe they were part of some pim backup but that doesn't explain why I can't copy them to my desktop if the backup files will. I wanna reformat my card but I don't wanna lose anything that I might need later.
[General Questions and Answers] Robotech123:
Hi all,

I was wondering if HTC was coming out with a "newer/updated" version of the htc Advantage x7510/Athena or something similar. I know it's a niche device so it's rare I come across anything like it. I don't mind waiting to spend the money on a newer version of the device instead of buying a used one on ebay.

Any help with this questions is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] galaxys:
Looks like the HTC Thoth could be it: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1785&c=htc_thoth_100
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Got a little question for the french users in here. Can you one of you guys tell me what is the Radio version on the SFR (french Vodafone) ROM? I don't remember it and now I'm running 1.48.

I'm asking this because my data connections is acting up. sometimes when I browse (or do anything else that requires data to be sent/received) the goddamn connection just stawls for 20s. For example I'm browsing with Opera, when I click a link it goes from 3G to H, but every once in a while (well it happens rather frequently!) nothing happens (it doesn't change to H or quicly changes to H then back to 3G in less than a second) and the request times out. It renders the HD2 useless so I have to use a Wifi connection which is a pain in the ass. My iPhone, HTC Diamond, and HTC Trinity work perfectly (all with the same SIM). Unfortunitely I directly flashed to 1.48 and didn't use the phone with the SFR branded ROM (1.44 IIRC) so I don't know if this only happens with the current Radio.

Cheers

UPDATED the thread title as it seems to affect users all over Europe and with all ROMs.
[HD2 General] ugo83130:
this can help you?
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
Same problem with Bouygues Telecom and official ROM here.

I turned off the HSPDA in the advanced settings. However i keep switching from 3G to Edge when moving around, in zones that suppose to get fully 3G.

@ugo83130 : Is it the last ROM that you have here ? Is there a release history with the fixed bugs ?
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Thanks!

The HD2 seems to have a spotty radio or antena. It keeps going back an forth between 3G & H is place where I didn't have any problem with my Diamond and iPhone 3G. As if sometimes the the data request is rejected by SFR. So the connection stawls for a little while then goes back to normal eventhough I'm sitting and didn't move!:(
[HD2 General] EFCAugure:
Hello,

not a SFR problem.

I have exactly the same problem with Orange in France.

:(

Waiting for a new radio rom.....
[HD2 General] mirakle:
Was the problem here when you were using 1.43 version of the ROM?

Just wondering... :confused:
[HD2 General] spaanplaat:
I think this is not just a problem in France because I to have this problem with the radio switching between H and 3G all the time and I live in Holland.

BTW. I also had this on 1.43 so I guess it is not 1.48 related.
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Thanks for the input guys.

Just to be clear, going from to 3G to H when a data request is done is normal (it then goes back to 3G when the request is fullfilled). The problem is when it just doesn't go to H and nothing happens for 20s or when it hits H then directly goes back to 3G is less than a second as if the phone lost connection with the network or the request was rejected. This shouldn't happen especially when my iPhone 3G, HTC Diamond and HTC Trinity (just did a test with it) never exhibit this problem.
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Upping this one to get more feedback
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
That's certainly the most important bug of the HD2. 1/3 of my calls fail when 3G is enable. I have to disable it to avoid such problems.
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
The Radio or Antena does seems to suffer from some sensivity issues. I tested the HD2 and Diamond side by side (2 SFR SIMs with identical full internet contracts). And the Diamond didn't have any problem at all going from to 3G to H then back to 3G when the request were fullfilled. The HD2 kept messing around, sometimes waiting 10/20 secs t'ill it hits H eventhough it was showing more bars next to the 3G/H icon.
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
It's worst than that. Even in Paris, i have never got HSDPA, but only EDGE. That's ridiculous.
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Up please post your feedback if you encounter the same problem.
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Those having this problem, can you post you Radio version?
[HD2 General] jorglund:
Having exactly the same problem with mine here in sweden..

Operator is 3, no problem with my old Xperia X1

It happens occasionally and i have to turn radio off and switch back on again to get up again. To make a regular call is no problem, just data traffic switching from "H" to "3G" and then it is stucked..:(

ROM: 1.43.413.2(70124) SVE

Radio: 2.04.50.22_2

Protokoll: 15.26.50.07U

..Jorgen
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Thanks for the info Jorgen!

I wonder how we can pass this to HTC's support team. :-(
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
ROM : 1.43.406.2 (70124) FRE

Radio : 2.04.50.22_2
[HD2 General] golgi:
Hi,

I have the same problem on SFR in France.

ROM : 1.43.406.2 (70124) FRE

Radio : 2.04.50.22_2

Before switching to SFR, I runned on an Orange SIM for 10 days and didn't notice that kind of problem.

Some users also posted on htc-touch-hd.forumactif.biz they encounter the problem with SFR.
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
@ Golgi : Bring people from htc-touch-hd.forumactif.biz here to get their versions too ;) Thanks.
[HD2 General] spfrance:
If you want french support : http://forums.smartphonefrance.info/viewforum.php?f=39 :)
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Uppin this to collect more info
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Come on guys.. We can't be only 5 having this problem :-(
[HD2 General] ipaqer64:
Hi.

Same problem in Germany, T-Mobile.

ROM: 1.43.407.2 (70124) GER

Radio : 2.04.50.22_2

1.48 not tried, download failed (DL-Site not available)
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Thanks for the info mate!

Some more stuff I'm noticing. It strats to screw up when I have less that 4 bars. If I'm at 4 it works correctly. But as soon a I hit 3 it starts to act up.
[HD2 General] Bence:
I dont have any timeouts, but connection switches between H, 3G, Edge...almoast all the time, every few seconds.

I use original rom...
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Yeha it may depend on your network too. Looks like the HD2 Radio/Antena has some sensitivity issues!
[HD2 General] pen-pen:
I've got the same issue with an unbranded TP2 on the original FRA ROM on SFR.

Once I've flashed the HSPL and a custom ROM (NRGZ28 one) the issue was solved.

Hope it will help.

Do you tried to make a Goldcard and flash a WWE ROM?
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Thanks for the tip. Yes I'm already running the 1.48 WWE (didn't even try the 1.44 of SFR before flashing, should have though to see if the problem already existed with it).
[HD2 General] aszotten:
I have the same problem. Maybee it is connected to the SMS issue discussed in another thread

//Awi
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
Please everybody sends an email to support selecting Taiwan country :

http://www.htc.com/www/CS_Mail.aspx

Give this thread URL in your message. If we're many to report this bug, they may feel concerned.
[HD2 General] myth1001:
My HD2 signal quality is worse than my old N95. I can't receive signal with HD2 in places where i used to have signal with my N95.

I'm struggling to get a signal by positioning my phone in different positons, trying not to cover the antenna with my hand....blah blah.. but my friend sitting beside me is happily texting without any problem. Not to mention my phone cost at least 4times more. =(
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
Come on ! :)

I can't even hear the caller during the conversation when 3G is enable. HTC is good for gadgets but suck at the essentials. This device is first a phone, not a weather barometer.
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Any more feedback?
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
A reply from HTC support :
[HD2 General] weichei:
dl-site down: works for me here from germany. Simply try angain if it works now.

ontopic: everytime my HD2 has to switch from 3G to GSM because the poor radio-Hardare doesn't manage to stay in 3G network however, it hangs up and only a softreset brings it back to functioning.

not good HTC - Touch HD worked big way better than this. But i must say that radio 2.05.xx is slightly better than 2.04.xx but far away from optimum.

all my hope is on hspl and rdio 2.06 from WWE-TUR 1.61 rom, in order do try out if problems get fixed with this new radio rom!
[HD2 General] jgtthd:
t mobile UK - same problem here, sorry to report....
[HD2 General] parilicium:
problem with my HD2

Hi,

I have a problem with mon HD2, in France with BOUYGUES.

My ROM : 1.48.483.1 ( FRE )

My HD2 signal quality est good or very good with signal EDGE or 3G, but often I haven't internet on my HD2. Sometimes I have internet , sometimes no. I have random internet. And sometimes my signal connection switch random with 3G or EDGE or H its painfull.

When I reboot my HD2, its also random... And often , when my HD2 is booting , he displays "no connection to the remote modem".

I am waiting an update from HTC for this problem.
[HD2 General] TML1504:
Same problem here!
[HD2 General] freadcrash:
Hello !

Same problems with my HD2 on Bouygues (Fr)

I was always in HSDPA never 3G and my internet connection was sometimes very long or doesn't work.

But i disabled HSPDA in phone options and miracle ! for the first time : 3G.

Now, i'm often in 3G and sometimes in EDGE. HSDPA disabled.

Rom Version : 1.48.483.1 (71294) FRE

Radio Version : 2.05.51.05_2

Protocol Version : 15.28.50.07W

Hope to have fix from HTC !
[HD2 General] optiknerv:
i have noticed the icon switching back and forth before but i have had reasonable signal quality. What i have had problems with is data connections. Quite often they would not work getting connection time outs from the programs trying to access them. I seemed to have solved these problems by setting data connections to hsdpa only and not hsdpa/hsupa. I dont think my network supports hsupa anyway. I am running the 1.61 turk/wwe rom on my o2uk handset flashed with goldcard. no problems so far.
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
Little update:

I'm running the 1.61ROM now (which includes the latest Radio version) and experience the same problems. So far it looks like it's highly dependeted on the area. I don't have problems at home but at my girlfreinds place it's horrible (my other phones work perfectly there).

BUT here's the most intersting part:

The problem seems to go away when using the phone as a modem! I decided to hook it up to my girls PC and browse the web and everything worked perfectly (browsing directly on the phone was a pain in the same room!).
[HD2 General] OneGoodKnock:
I reckon this phone is fundamentally flawed. I have a very weak signal that fluctuates far more than it should do, my wifes Nokia 5800 has a perfectly good signal?? It also makes a massive difference when you have the phone in your hand - the signal drops away dramatically.

I have read the bit about not touching the back cover as this causes interference. But how stupid is that. It's a phone after all of which you hold in your hand to operate.

I personally dont think we will see a fix for this issue as I think it is a hardware problem. Not good really.
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
So plugged to a PC you mean ? And in a normal use ?

Did you manage to install the radio ROM without the whole package ?

I'd like to try this new one but i don't want to lose my whole data configuration.
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
YUp plugged the HD2 to the PC in tethering/modem mode.

I flashed the whole thing using the GoldCard.
[HD2 General] onisuk:
my phone sucks on signal too (uk O2 3G)

in areas i always had full signal with my old nokia i now struggle to use my phone at all ......... and if it does work the sound is horrible and crackly ..... like has been said here before, this device is first a phone .... and as a phone its pretty crappy !:mad:
[HD2 General] CresCent:
same problem but with 1.48

germany, tmobile
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
Guys, send to HTC Taiwan this post URL. If i'm the only one, it may not work.
[HD2 General] OneGoodKnock:
E-Mail sent.
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
Thanks ! :)
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
I'm wondering why so many of us have this problem, and not other people. I don't think it's a hardware issue / a bad batch of the manufacturing. So what would be the common fact we all have ?

I think about the SIM card. It's a pure supposition though. How old is yours ? Mine is very old, like 7-8 years.
[HD2 General] matt07930:
Bizarre, my phone worked perfect with the UK T-Mobile 1.43 rom, much better than my Diamond. Since flashing the WWE 1.48 ROM its become terrible, can't even get weather to update over the air.
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
I just got a new SIM card. I'll do some tests.
[HD2 General] mirakle:
I switched from orange fr to bouygues fr last week. So my sim card is new.

I do experience the same problem. I have to stop data connection and start it again to gain opera access to internet. ROM 1.48. I had the same problem on orange using 1.43 rom. I still like my device though. :D
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
Always the same **** bugs ... wrong track.
[HD2 General] matt07930:
Can I just check I have the same problem as you guys? I don't seem to have a problem running Opera or Google Maps over the air....although they seem slower than they were, but weather, Windows Live/e-mails and Twitter won't update unless I conect to Wifi.
[HD2 General] cellardoor1981:
I have it to guys... 1.48

I have the same probleme and is really a pain in the .....

(Bouygues) FR

System Version: 5.2.21869

ROM Version 1.48.483.1 (71294) FRE
[HD2 General] cheetah2k:
I have issues in Australia on Optus as well. Shows H or 3G, but cant/wont connect to download weather, internet or even stocks.

I usually have to reboot the phone, or turn off/on the data connection and pray it will connect.

I have the WWE UK version HD2, had issues with both 1.43 and 1.48 ROMS - and even when I'm standing right next to a tower with full coverage.....

:mad:
[HD2 General] Phaedrus Nine:
Same problem, here in UK, on 02.

I notice the signal strength is very unpredictable, on H or 3G. Especially using YouTube app. When I first got the phone it was able to stream high quality downloads with ease, now it seems to buffer for ages from the same area. I thought it was a faulty phone. My old Tytn II worked better.
[HD2 General] matt07930:
Seems really strange, anything integrated in to Sense (Facebook, weather, e-mails etc) won't update, but stand alone applications such as Google Maps or Opera work fine.
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
Any new experience report with the new ROM 1.61 ?
[HD2 General] Elcs:
I read this thread and thought "Hmm, I might have a similar issue"

UK User - North East England

T-Mobile

ROM Version - 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE (T-Mobile)

ROM Date - 28/10/2009

Radio Version - 2.04.50.22_2

Protocol Version - 15.26.50.07U

On my normal route to and from work my Leo has superior signal strength to that of my Blackstone and I no longer have a small 30 second blackspot in my signal.

The issue I am noticing is on Beejive, the IM application. I can send a couple of messages to a friend and lock the phone, putting it in my pocket. After waiting a couple of minutes, I can have a spam of 2-3 messages back all at the same time. This has happened on a couple of occasions since I have had the phone and could amount to a HSDPA/3G lag.

It could all just be a coincidence or lag over the airwaves too....
[HD2 General] webjunky:
rom : 1.48.404.2

Radio : 2.05.51.05_2

Protocol : 15.28.50.07U

sometimes i get the message that i have no connection at all
[HD2 General] matt07930:
Nope, still having the same problem.
[HD2 General] Eraser85:
I've got this problem too. I live in Italy.

Rom 1.48.405.2 WWE - Radio 2.05.51.05_2

Sometimes (rarely) it also disconnects from internet, then tries to reconnect but fails. I've to disable & re-enable internet connection from comm manager in order to fix this problem. Really annoying.

The reason not everybody are lamenting this issue is, maybe, not everyone has a contract with data traffic included and therefore use WiFi instead..
[HD2 General] creed:
Have 1.61 ROM

I hadn't realised it but after reading this I have noticed I am having a similar problem. The H is always dropping in and out frequently down to 3G. I just yesterday switched my ROM to the 1.61 TUR one with the new radio after switching from my Tmobile original 1.43 ROM. I am on Tmobile network. I only have the HTC Kaiser (MDA Vario III guise) on Tmobile to compare too and the internet is just so much better on the Leo. I get faster d/n now with Opera mobile than I used to get with Opera mini!
[HD2 General] MasterTP:
This is normal the phone never stays in H it always drops to 3G after a data request is fullfiled. The problem is when it doesn't switch to H and stays in 3G and nothing happens (the request is denied by the network).
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
Keep sending this post URL to HTC support in Taiwan. It must becore their first priority. The first feature of a phone is to keep connection.
[HD2 General] cellardoor1981:
I got a message from HTC but I'm not convinced - sorry the answer is in french

Sara (France Support (Tech))

Cher client HTC, Merci d’avoir contacté le support technique HTC. Nous nous engageons à vous fournir un service de qualité et de répondre à toutes vos questions et préoccupations liés à nos produits ou services. Concernant votre requête à propos le souci de réseau de votre appareil HTC HD2, veuillez suivre les étapes suivantes :

1- Essayer une carte Sim d’autre opérateur réseau sur votre appareil pour tester.

2- Si le problème persiste, veuillez supprimer toutes les applications que vous avez installé sur l’appareil.

3- Essayez de redémarrer le téléphone en tapant sur le bouton Reset.

4- Si le problème n’est pas encore résolu, dans ce cas il faut établir une réinitialisation matérielle de l’appareil sans la carte mémoire et la carte Sim en tenant compte que vous allez perdre tous les informations qui se trouve sur la mémoire du téléphone alors il est recommandé par HTC de sauvegarder de vos données. Pour établir la réinitialisation matérielle de l’appareil, veuillez tapez sur Menu > Paramètres > l’onglet système puis sélectionnez l’icone Effacer données. Puis entrez « 1234 » dans l’encadrement et cliquez sur Oui pour confirmer.

Si vous ne pouvez pas avoir accès sur le Menu du téléphone ; veuillez suivre les étapes suivantes :

1- Eteindre l’appareil complètement.

2- Tapez et maintenez sur bouton volume haut et le bouton volume bas du téléphone.

3- En même temps que vous appuyer sur les deux boutons, appuyez une seule fois d’une seule seconde sur le bouton d’alimentation, lâchez vite le bouton d’alimentation en restant maintenant sur les deux autres boutons jusqu’il apparaît sur l’écran un message en anglais.

4- Puis appuyez sur le bouton volume haut pour confirmer.

Si le problème persiste, veuillez envoyer le téléphone vers notre centre de réparation en France « Cirma Cordon Electroniques» : L’adresse : ZI de la Lande 10 à 14 Chemin de Barateau, CS 200 Code postal : 33451 Saint Loubés Le numéro du téléphone : 08 927 000 22

Si les étapes ou les informations mentionnées ci - dessus ne règlent pas le problème que vous rencontrez avec votre appareil ou ne répond pas à votre requête, nous vous invitons à vous rendre dans la section support de notre site web. Rendez vous s'il vous plaît à l'adresse : http://www.htc.com/www/support.aspx Ou encore : http://www.htc.com/select_country.htm sélectionnez votre pays de résidence puis cliquez sur l'onglet support. Vous pouvez aussi contacter notre centre de support au numéro: +33-170-759-171 si vous désirez de plus amples informations. Nous vous remercions de l'intérêt que vous portez à nos produits et services

Cordialement, Equipe de support technique
[HD2 General] Agent 720:
I have the same problem in Denmark with the phonecompany 3.

I have sent a message to HTC with the problem.

I also have the problem with SMS. Sometimes they are delayed. Maybe there is a connection between those problems.
[HD2 General] Lucius Snow:
Le support français est complètement à la masse. Il faut contacter celui de

Taïwan