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[HD2 General] maati:
@leodr

You can get CVSD or MSVC for free right here at the forum.

What's your problem?

Amd do you really want to spend 500€ on a phone with a crappy, awfully slow last generation 528MHz processor?!

You can add voice command to the HD2, but you can NOT exchange the XPeria's processor...

...it's really sad how people complain about small issues that can easily be fixed, FOR FREE, and at the same time they say they'll buy other phone with much more serious issues that can NOT be fixed at all, like slow processors (XPeria), censorship and force of using iTunes (iPhone) or whatever else...
[HD2 General] vindiesel:
Do you guys hear the voice through your bt-headset when using the voice dialing which ZeevG has posted?

Can you record new voice-dials through your bt-headset?
[HD2 General] Reason4444:
Is anyone noticed, when BT headset long press launched voicedialing, device actually receive sounds via own microphone... not thru BT headset microphone.. :( I'm realize this issue because of bad voice recognition..

My old TD2 with CVD on same situation BT headset announced two beeps.. First beep; launch CVD program, Second beep; ready & wait to voice command... But on my HD2 i only hear first beep from headset... :confused:

I'm try both of program which provided with this thread but same issue happen..

My BT headset Plantronics Discovery 925..

Any comments...
[HD2 General] vindiesel:
I can confirm that!

In addition to that, I have remarked that the first push on my bt-headset's button only wakes up my device when it is locked, I have to push the button then again to activate voice dialing.

I use a plantronics 525
[HD2 General] Free Man:
I can also confirm the issue with bluetooth headset, it simply does not work as it should. In fact it is pretty well worthless as there is no "hands free" possible.

I have a Nokia hands free device. The sound comes through the phone instead of the headset, the button on the Nokia will activate the phone to attempt to dial voice tag (but the beep to notify you that it is ready for you to speak the tag never comes since it is in the phone speaker only), but unless you are yelling at the top of your lungs, or the phone happens to be in your hand or right on your lap the voice dialing fails...

So it is receiving the dial command from the headset, but all sounds are being displayed through the phone, including the reception of the voice tag to activate dialing. Worthless from a hands free standpoint.

Unfortunately this software's only use (currently) would be to simply hold the long key and dial directly from the phone which is great, but with the the sense environment it is not much value honestly and doesn't do much for safety while driving. Sigh.

Anyone else have any ideas?
[HD2 General] Free Man:
Oddly enough I can receive calls successfully on the same Nokia hands-free device and it rings correctly, picks up the call and utilizes the microphone from the Nokia device....I also do not get any disconnects between the Nokia and the HD2 so it is solid there.

So it appears to be a bug limited to making outgoing bluetooth calls via a number of handsets...
[HD2 General] Pixel:
You can get CVSD or MSVC for free right here at the forum.

What's your problem?[/QUOTE] A desire to have legal, up-to-date, supported software?

but not legally or supported.
[HD2 General] Free Man:
So it looks like everyone is having the same issue with making outgoing calls via a bluetooth device...The sound plays through the phone instead of the device and the microphone that is used is the phones instead of the bluetooth device correct?

Anyone have any clues on how to fix this?
[HD2 General] Spizella:
No solution, yet.

Let's hope some XDA genius will find the solution. :)
[HD2 General] Reason4444:
That's the case when calls initiate via Cyberon Voice Dialer with BT headset... :(

Usual bluetooth headset connection is fine with Plantronics 925..
[HD2 General] Spizella:
Plantronics

Is there a chance that this problem is related to Plantronics?
[HD2 General] optiknerv:
mod please remove
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
voice speed dial

guys,

voice speed dialing is working PERFECTLY with long press og call button AND BT devices.

i am using now the version by Dutty and it is a wonderful version all is working - i tried with my plantronics - OK my hands free - motorola 505=ok, supertooth one=ok

all is working and i am on the original rom nothing cooked

the best thing is once you've added a BT device go to the BT section and mark it as authorized device (under the address) it is the addvanced screen

the allow audio going through BT device

SR

finito...
[HD2 General] Free Man:
This is not limited to Plantronics, I have a couple of devices including a Nokia and there are a couple of threads dealing with built in car bluetooth units (BMW comes to mind).....

ZeevG. What you are addressing is not our problem, so perhaps I can better explain what the but is and someone can assist. We can dial by using the long key on the phone and then the call automatically transfers to the phone without any issue. Here is the real problem though:

1. When trying to remotely call out via a connected bluetooth device instead of using the microphone on that remote device to call the tag out the voice dialing app (or phone) is using the phones microphone to call out the tag. So obviously you still have to have the phone up close to your mouth or be yelling at the top of your lungs. I have had multiple HTC phones, including the Touch Cruise and this same voice app (and phone) accepted the voice activate (properly) though the remote headset as it should.

2. The audible been in the remote device, once pushing to activate voice dialing is not occurring in the remote device. Again the beep is heard only by holding you ear up to the phone speaker. This should also (and has on all prior HTC phones) be heard through the speaker / headset of the remote device to allow us to know when the software is active and ready for us to speak the tag.

Hopefully this can help others to diagnose the issue and perhaps come up with a fix. My guess is that it is HTC's issue and could be fixed by a registry change.

Note: There is a setting under "Advanced" bluetooth settings and beneath headset audio that can be checked that says, "Play system sounds on remote hands-free device". I have that checked so that is not working, perhaps it is poorly implemented or not functioning as it should because I would think this setting would address what we are having issues with.

Note 2: I do have the bluetooth device checked as an "authorized" device, so that is not an issue.
[HD2 General] Free Man:
After installing the Dutty's voice app, do you simply turn off the device and then turn it back on or do you have to do a full reset?
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
few answers

first to freeman - you must SR the device...

now i get the problem with the BT - yes in most cases the voice command will go through the internal mic, some times i had an even where the BT device was used to get the command and then play it back, i gues it is related to those devices that can act as sound players not just ear piece... but not sure

a test i did was to play music using the device and then press the button - it showd in some cases success.

if some one will have a solution this will be great as i am using this feature massivly.

another issue - did anyone succeed in call recording ? BOTH sides ?
[HD2 General] mrdec:
Hi

I am not really that perturbed about the bt aspect, I have read the thread, but would like clarification, is there any way we can use a hardware button (long press) on the HD2 to activate voice dialing. Ideally I would have preferred ms voice command with the functionality of connecting to your progs but fumbling to dial, while driving is my main gripe.

Any input appreciated.
[HD2 General] Free Man:
Yes, I too get intermittent success...sometimes it uses the remote devices' microphone while others it uses the phone. There is no logic to it either.

I have read this thread and wondered if anyone is feeling like trying out this registry change that makes the phone look like a "regular" phone instead of a smart phone to remote bluetooth devices...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583570&highlight=bluetooth

ZeevG, I have not tried any call recording features, in fact I was not aware of their existence. Is this an add-on?
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
very odd...

indeed the BT is not working as it should - sometimes it is perfect = all is going through my handsfree and the voice command too including the prompts (if the prompt is heard through the handsfree it will go smooth untill next time you use it), if you activate the speed dial from the BT device and the beep (prompt) is not coming from the device but from the back of the phone it will be crap = voice command will in most case due to noice etc not be accepted or be wrongly executed.

if we will find a way to force the prompt going through the device it will work smoothly.

i even tried plays a sound (my device is a2dp) and then once it is connected to press the button - no results...

any one with a creative idea ?

as per call recording - yes its an external software.

i was using on my topaz (diamond2) ACR ver 1.2.3 and it worked like a charm, the voce quality of both sides was great! it is not working on HD2

i also tried ACR HD version - same results

i tried vito - same

i installed the cab for two way incall recording but nothing happened

any one ? this is very important (at least to me )

i must admit - as much as the HD2 looks like the most sexy goddess HTC for some odd reason crippled it by taking out voice speed dialing, video call (no front camera) changed the phone audio logics so call recording is no working and i am sure i will find so many other issues - WHY ? it was supposed to be their flag ship...
[HD2 General] mrdec:
my 2cents

I tend to agree with you Zee, but with a small exception. It is new, and though floored with some rudimentary faults (sms not going through, hanging at lock screen after charge, and some of the other previously smooth functions you mentioned, I do feel that based on the fat processor and the awesome screen, it will only be a matter of time before the right rom comes out :confused: OR NOT!.

If not I have waited since the universal for this beauty and the guys at HTC would have had their chance to finally shut the iphone up properly.

Im playing a wait and see for another month or two, and then they will loose me and other loyals for good as the other players slowly start to up their game.

. I need call record, I need a2dp, I need voice dialing, I need frigging sms!!
[HD2 General] Elmo-85:
I am so glad I found this thread. Thanks to all that have contributed!! I've had my HD2 only 4 days now, but I cannot believe there is no voice dialing over bluetooth. This is a simple feature I can not believe it is not included. This is basic stuff.

My last phone was the XDA Mini S / HTC Wizard..its 5 years old, it has so many scratches on, the battery cover is broken, i have lost the stylus and it has so many dents in the casing, but it can VOICE DIAL with absolutely zero issues!!

My aim in buying the HD2 was to go forwards not backwards!!

I have read this entire thread and what I do not understand is how you are supposed to get the long press button to work with the button on your BT Device.

I have a SONY bluetooth headunit in my car and if you press the volume button in it is used to activate the voice dial on my old XDA Mini s. How do I get this button to work with the "Long Press" Is it even possible?

This issue is seriously annoying me, I appreciate the HD2 is a nice phone, but I've spent the last 2 days installing..."fixes" and "tweaks" its a bit of a joke, its almost like its been released before being finished.

I'm so glad I got this phone for free on a contract, I would be livid if I had spent a lot of money on it sim free for something we are all having to engineer and develop ourselves!

I do like the phone, I do like HTC and I do like wwindows mobile, I keep reading so many threads with small problems that really shouldn't be there, and we all keep supporting the device and company, saying its ok, they are easy fixes etc etc, but I'm beginning to wonder why we are all defending it so much. These are basic things!

Imagine buying a new car with a great engine and then the manufacturer just forgets to put tyres on the wheels...........but then says don't worry just buy some tyres from your local garage and you'll be fine!
[HD2 General] Free Man:
If you read this thread you will see that the long key is automatically mapped to the call button if you use the dutty's version of voice dial that you can download from the thread itself. Of course that does not fix the remote dialing and microphone issues that ZeevG and several of us are having, in fact everyone is having this issue!
[HD2 General] Free Man:
Has anyone tried the "fix" that makes remote bluetooth devices see your phone as a regular phone here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583570&highlight=bluetooth

graemenwallace has a simply registry tweak (that could be reversed) that sounds like it "might" address the remote bluetooth issue whereby the phones microphone is used instead of the remote device, etc....
[HD2 General] ambler11:
The MSVC issue is particularly perplexing for me - I wear hearing aids and so cannot even consider holding up a phone to my ear as it will then create immense amounts of feedback. The Bluetooth option is my only option - and MSVC has been a great help to me on my previous devices...I used it all the time.

The perplexing thing is a lack of consistency:

1. it will 'speak' via Bluetooth after a soft reset, but after a few calls will revert to 'speaking' from the phone.

2. incoming calls will always 'ring' via the headset.

3. I now get it to 'speak' caller-id for the first time ever (not on my previous three devices) - usually it will 'speak' through the headset, but not always.

Are there any fixes coming along? I can always initiate MSVC by using the buttons on the Bluetooth headset.
[HD2 General] ambler11:
For what it's worth, and we may have had this before, but I paid $36.00 to contact MS Support to have it confirmed that MSVC was built for WM 5.0 and there ARE Bluetooth connectivity problems with later operating systems. They have no notice of any further development of MSVC. I asked about TellMe and they said it would be quite a while....!!!!
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
a few insights

after drilling into i have found a very odd thing - the very first time you use the BT device like after you turned it on or switched to it it will go as we want it to to the BT like a perfect thing, then after the first time it will ignore the BT (for voice speed dialing only) and run from the phone.

i disconnected the BT and connected again and it was like the first time - going through the BT

very odd isn't it ?

so may be if we find a way to every time we want to use it somehow it will re-initiate the connection it may work

did any one try the registry thing tweak ?
[HD2 General] mrdec:
Zee, thanks a mill for that, what a useful and relevant contribution.

I installed it, it works great, I prefer the voice tag system as it "acclimatizes" to your own vocal afflictions. One thing though, I installed the cab but can not get the long press functioning, will try to do a sr again.

Thanks again.
[HD2 General] mrdec:
Nope still not, I dl`d this version: CVSD_1.2_build_61226_1_BTHeadsetFixed.cab (632.9 KB)

apologies if I missed a post, but read your response in detail, thought the long press of the call button was automatic. Do I have to assign to a shortcut?

Thanks in advance
[HD2 General] johnkst:
I also used CVSD_1.2_build_61226_1_BTHeadsetFixed.cab and can report back that it works a treat, with one small exception which probably has more to do with something I have or have not set on my phone rather than the cab itself.

I can press the button on my headset to activate the Cyberon Voice Commander which immediately starts running on my phone (even if it was 'sleeping' at the time), But when the application starts scanning for a voice, the 'peep' that it makes only comes throught the phone's speaker, not the headset and likewise it can only 'hear' my voice if I speak into the microphone of the phone, not through my headset.

However, if I speak into the phone, it happily dials the appropriate number and then allows me to speak and hear through the headset.

Anybody come across that? Any ideas?
[HD2 General] Spizella:
Exactly the same problem. As far as I know, there is no solution, yet.
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
pals - this is exactly the problem we are having here :)

the voice dialing works and works well but not through the BT (at least not as it should - every time you launch it) the normal way it works is through the phone - WE WANT IT TO WORK THROUGH THE BT (hello, HTC... wake up!!!)

i am giving it up as i don't see any reasonable solution.

did any one try the registry tweak that makes the HD2 work like a normal phone ?
[HD2 General] mrdec:
Has anyone been able to map this cool app to any hardware button yet?

I use it for car calling and to take a quick pick without fumbling around or thinking too much about it.

Does anyone know of any software that works with wm 6.5 to achieve this?

I know spb used to have something similar, not sure if it will work on the HD2.
[HD2 General] ambler11:
Have you seen the thread on the trial t-mobile ROM 2.01 that claims/suggest that Voice Command is there and works?
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
yes - the long press call button is mapped by the application

no i did not see the thread - i do not wish to change my original ROM to a cooked one.

i did ask about the registry tweak that was publishes somewhere regarding the BT issue and car systems that turns the HD2 bt to act as a normal phone - did any body try it ? is it working ?
[HD2 General] mrdec:
Thanks Zee, would you have any idea why It does not seem ton be mapping to my long press on call button? has anyone else encountered this with that cab?

I must say though, since installing it certainly helps with accessibility, it would make my (t)week if I could just get the mapping right.:confused:
[HD2 General] mrdec:
Sorted, renamed shortcut in the win dir to "long_send"
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
mrdec,

i guess you have HD2...

what i can suggest is you go back in this thread and find one of the earliest versions i uploaded, one of them is dutty's - this will most certainly add the key mapping. (it did for me)

then uninstall it and install the latest version.

twisted i know but will work for you :)

my god no one tried the registry tweak i asked about ?

will anyone dare ?

we need some real solutions here folks... :):)
[HD2 General] palmony:
Hi guys,

I have dug through the thread and found these three cabs:

CVSD_1.2_build_61226_1_BTHeadsetFixed.cab

CyberonVoiceSpeedDial_1_2_b080227_0R3.cab

Duttys Cyberon Voice Speed Dial [Updated].cab [latest build of CVD (090626)]

Which one of them is the best for HTC HD2.

Thanks
[HD2 General] Henry_Lee:
I use this one Duttys Cyberon Voice Speed Dial.

But I have a problem with run of VoiceDialer by thr button on BT headset. :(

Program run only by the long press of send button....
[HD2 General] palmony:
Thanks Henry_Lee,

What about the other 2 .cabs.

Which one of them is the better?
[HD2 General] Henry_Lee:
I don't think so one of this will be better. :(

Ive tried CAbs with BTFIX prefix and have the same situation. Button didnt works.

I suspect that is main reason for disabling of Voice Dialer form Leo. Error in the BT stack.... :cool:
[HD2 General] eskasi:
All of these cabs of both CVSD and MSVC probably won't work well with our HD2 :( After doing some research, it seems the like BT stack is our main culprit. THe HD2 uses he Widcomm BT Stack instead of the MS one. As far as my research goes, the MS BT stack is more complicated and better suited to a wide array of devices. THe Widcomm one is much more basic but has a much nicer interface (which I don't really care for or need).

This problem was also seen in the TP2 as well. Its not so simple to remove the Widcomm stack and replace it with the MS one :( After reading more info about this in other forums, I realize it isn't something chefs can simply cook into a new ROM, not easy..... I think there may be no simple solution. And given HTC's past history, I doubt they will be changing the BT stack :(

I am extremely disappointed with HTC's choice in changing thier BT stack here... especially on a flagship device like the HD2. MS BT stack was tried and tested! WTF???

My 1 glimmer of hope is that I (and others) have had MSVC working at times (after soft reset) with full control using the headset including mic functionality.... this works for the first few uses before all VC is routed through the phone hardware again. If it works for a moment, there MUST be a way to keep it working!

Finally, for MSVC users, Handango states that the app was last updated late Nov and I think there may be claims that it works with the HD2 (but those claims are usually untested!) I hope Widcomm updates their stack to keep us happy (they are getting a lot of bad press from us for such a high end device) and perhaps apps like MSVC or CVSD can be updated to work well with the Widcomm stacks!

Here is a website that shows the same menu on the TP2 and problems people have with that BT Stack... http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=10696
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
thanks for this interesting input.

i had CVSD working like a charm on my Diamond2 (AKA Topaz or TP2) - LIKE A CHARM as said and it still works, on HD2 it ALLWAYS works for the first time used with the BT device (any device) than it goes back to the phone.

in both cases i used the original ROM

maybe one of the chefs will look into it and cook us all a nice solution...

let's hope...

Merry Chrismas & Happy New Year for us all
[HD2 General] eskasi:
I also had MSVC working great with my Diamond 2... but that phone used a MS BT stack :( The TP2 (Touch Pro 2) uses a Widcomm one :(

If both CVSD and MSVC works initially before reverting back... there must be a way to keep it connected. I just wonder if it's something that Widcomm can provide in an update for future Roms or its something software developers need to incorporate. I'm assuming the former. Updating BT stacks is apparently far simpler than changing them out...

Merry Christmas to you too :)
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
possible solution

ok after a long weekend of breaking my head on it - this is not just a nice to have feature it is a top critical feature at least for me, i think i may have an idea for solution

as we all found out it works for the first time and then just go back to the phone, so if one of the brilliant programers out there will be able to write a tiny application that will reset the BT stack and then launch CVSD so what we will end up with will be:

1: change the program on long press to this app

2: once we launch the voice speed dial this app will run, reset the BT and launch CVSD - i think this may solve our problem...

or as an alternative if anyone has access to the source code to add a startup routine to CVSD so it will reset the BT this will be even better

anyone there ? cheffs ?
[HD2 General] sintoo:
:)

I've just installed this program to my Qualcomm 7225 CPU and it works well.

Thank you so much to the people who uploaded the cab.

One thing I would like to do now is to find a program to use in combination with this or stand-alone, that can dial any number, not necessarily a number in my Contact List.

There's MS Voice Command, but I wonder if it has Voice tag record like this Cyberon Voice Speed Dial.

Again, thank you all.
[HD2 General] Free Man:
Registry Tweak

This registry tweak below was found in a couple of other threads that has apparently addressed several people issue with built in car bluetooth devices, which seems very possibly applicable to our situation.

Anyone wish to try this tweak below, which could simply be removed if it does not help?

Registry Tweak:

1. Find the registry string: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys

2. Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476

This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone.
[HD2 General] ZeevG:
interesting - has anyone tried it ? on hd2...