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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hhsfool:
UGH stupid windows update. close Firefox right when I finished typing a huge long thing here. ok well here's the short version.

Right now poly's build is awesome, except I can't hardly use it due to how SLOW it is, despite the "FAST" in the forum title. yes I've disabled media scanner = no difference. Pressing menu for the first time after a boot takes about 5 secs or so to bring it up. It seems like the only programs that take less than 10 secs to load are the previous 2 or 3 I had just brought up on the screen. I don't know if anyone else is having this problem, but it sure makes it unusable as a daily phone to me. Yes I'm on NAND

Here

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=634782

Is an awesomely fast 2.1 build. I can't tell the difference between it and 1.6 in terms of speed. EXCEPT that build is a lot more buggy than poly's....even though it has a lot of his stuff.

So anyway, is anyone else having these slow problems with theirs, even on nand? Or am I just crazy???

Oh and here's some additional info if anyone is keeping track of these things...

Cell tower location doesn't work for me at all. What DOES work, is if you keep wifi on all the time, google maps will use that to determine your location. Works as it should, if google already knows the location of that access point. BUT when I leave wifi on, I get disconnects from 3G alllllll the time. The icon usually stays up fine, but when I'm on gtalk, it goes back and forth from normal to "disconnected from server" and turning off wifi solves that issue.

Thank you poly for an awesome build, wish it wasn't so damn slow!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hhsfool:
You might have the wrong panel type flashed (if on nand) or written in default.txt (if booting off sd card/haret). Try panel 1, 2, 3 each, and see if one of them makes it go away. I had that once wheere it just seemed like black colors were coming over orange so most colors looked ok, but it was because I had panel 1 selected when my phone was a panel 2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thepenk:
Emergency call

On my lock screen there is an Emergency Call button just in front of the unlock slider. It moves out of the way if I change to the pattern unlock, but is there a way to get rid of it. I dont have a SIM card in the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] svenn0508:
Everything works great, speed is also great, but is there a way to connect to PC for data transfer?

Also I was wondering does SD card has to be partitioned if flashing with NAND?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] CruiseMod:
I have a Polaris and i ve got some problems after running the Haret..

-sometimes the command ask me to press the center button or the volume up to run the installation but neither of those work..

- some other times after running HAret a screen with different colors appears..

i have uploaded the dmesg file for developers to see ..

i think many people in this thread has the exact problem ..

..also tried to keep the center button in the first two vibrations as mentioned in this thread before but doesnt work (actually it show the screen with the colours)..

my default.txt is :
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Maranevim:
for some reason, im not able to start Market, its loading and then just disappears :)

and wifi kinda doesnt work in WPA-TKIP secured networks... sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt, but mostly it doesnt...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ArvinSR:
Hi people,

just wanted some clarification before installing 2.1b, I need to delete the present andboot folder form my sd card (as this is the method i am using) and go through the same installation procedure as before. Am I correct???

Thanks:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BG1KSF:
Can't use in windows after using android fdisk

I followed the above procedures and when I put the sd card back in windows, windows don't even recognize the card. What can I do now? Please help!

:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
@jmbneaf; I am using DK.10 final rom; 1.71.09.01 radio and SPL-3.29.Hard. Also like the post below I skip everytghing duing initial setup. Wait a little for everything to load; kill the stupid media scanner. Then I connect to gmail and market first. One other thing to try, don;t log into gmail during initial setup, but as soon as everything settles, go into modem, disable the connection, wait 10-15 seconds, enable the connection. It may just need to restart the apn settings. BTY stupid question, are your apn setting there for at&t?

You need to either delete the old andboot folder or rename it. You will not use those files anymore for 2.1b.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] samurai_nix:
google sync and market

I Successfully installed 2.1b for sd. all is working wifi is good but i cant sync my google account and i cant go to the market it keeps telling i don’t have any internet connection. Any idea how can i resolve this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hyperfly:
The same troubles are actual for my Polaris
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ufo2121:
after some trial and error I was able to install android on my Polaris; everything went right but actually I hadn't disable the sim pin option, so I got stucked when asking for code; I turned my phone off and did the exact same procedure but I haven't being able to install it again. I also repartitioned my sd card after first install.

Now I have the same problems mentioned before.

I'm using the radio rom 1.65.30.09
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
When using Android to create partitionsvia fdisk!

Well, today I've found, that you perhaps cannot format the FAT32 partition in Android, because it is still in use, but you can format that partition back in Windows PC. Check Computer->Manage->Disk Manager for your partitions on your SD Card and use Windows to Format the First (and biggest) one.

Just be careful. You MUST turn of Android regulary before extracting the SD card!, because othervice it will mess up everything on your card if you just Soft Reset the phone.

Today I did it the same way again... Cleared whole my SD card so I had only 1 FAT32 patrition, I followed the same way of doing that except that I was setting the size of partitions in cylinders (just to be sure that I'll avoid the the partition does not end on cylinder boundary message)

Turned off the phone and after that I took the SD out and used Win to format 1st partititon to FAT32... all that worked for me...

If I'll be able to find some way how to format the partition under Android still running, I'll let you know...

Anyway the above proces is ok, just to be sure... when setting up partitions use cylinders coung not Megabytes... for example for my 4GB SDHC it was:

P1 (FAT32 type b) Starting cylinder default ending cylinder 421696 (3,22GB)

P2 (Ext2 type 83) Starting cylinder default ending cylinder +32768 (256MB)

P3 (Ext2 type 83) Starting cylinder default ending cylinder +32768 (256MB)

P4 (Swap type 82) Starting cylinder default ending cylinder default (32MB)

Anyway... I am not sure it it does any good to use Swap Partition or if the mobile even uses that one...

I'll update the post you mentioned to follow this info...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mauro_dpc:
help

Hello everyone

I have a problem with 2.1b for SD or NAND install, I have had the same problem with version 2.1 to 4. After performing the ROM and after a while the screen is running the lines ...

I have 1.71.09.01. radio, I shared the sd card using the G parted, installed the mod in the Eclair sd card in EXT2 Partition, but after some running the screen is lines.

Someone can help me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Anyway... you should be aware, that Windows are realy bad in using Removable devices like SD Card is... I can see it everytime in WinMo, I can use the partitions with no problem in Android... but after instalation I can not access the card in WinVista anymore... Reformating that one breaks partition table on SD card.. I am still not sure why...

But it seems to be Vista problem, not in Android :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
You choose wrong panel type.. IMHO I had that issue using PanelType=2 when my Kais130 needs paneltype=1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mauro_dpc:
Sorry but I'm a bit nob these things. how do I choose paneltype = 1?

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jonahs:
Two SD card guides and experiences

You can find two of my SD card posts in my sig. They are about partitioning and using it as a mass storage device. Creds to asj for looking further into formatting the card within Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
It depends on what you are going to do...

if you instal to NAND you have to take the right .nbh file where this is set up already

If you try to install to SD just be sure that your default.txt file contains board-htckaiser.panel_type=1 on the line set cmdline "".

The possible values are 1-4 so test any of them, but perhaps it will be 1 or 2...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
My biggest problem is, that my MicroUSB connector is damaged and the phone is no more under warranty :( I am not sure to say how much it would be to repair, but at this moment it does not really hurt me that bad to give it the try...

Only... I am not able to use adb :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Raymongo:
Yes i'm experiencing this also, it is much slower than the previous version. But i'm on fat32 with two ext2 partitions. i think i'm reverting back though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I did away with the compcache swap and tweaked a couple other settings in the userinit.conf file I am running pretty darn fast and calls come in as they should.

Couple of added tweaks to userinit and my phone is blazing fast

Does anyone have the live wallpapers working on this build I tried using mssmisons update for vogue eclair to no avail getting FC's I had it working onced before but can't remember how I did it. Also Java is not working for me even before I got fooling around with settings
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
@lggyxx: flashing radio doesn't affect data

Thanks for the quick response. Do you if this Styles v4 supports the ROM 1.71.09.01? Sorry i know its not on topic

Also if i flash via sd card and when i turn of the phone will it delete android off the sd card? that is what i am reading.

Also what is the point of formating to FAT 32 and then 2 EXT 2 partions? There is alot of information and im confused.

I really appreciate the help. Im not like the rest who dont read and get upset when they dont get an answer. I am reading however there is just a lot of information to go through.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Its in the virtual memory settings, I played with them a long time ago to get hero running well on the sdcard. No swap and no CC,

vfs_cache_pressure=950 .... Don't really know what this does but when I was playing with hero I had it up to 1300 before I started seeing problems and was with DATA mostly. overcommit_ratio=300 ... again no clue but like I said I was just playing with numbers taking a stab in the dark. I do think that I am going to sacrifice some battery usage but that is a non issue for me.

I just recently decided to mess with it again just to see how well it would work off of nand, someone told me a long time ago that changing these made no differewnce but I rally have to disagree.

My app usage is a little lighter than most probably. before I perform an install I remove googles mms app and replace it with handsent. I use browser, the phone astro mail and a couple others it does seem to be working well but I really have no clue what I'm doing so don't look at me for advice.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jmbneaf:
To save time, what are the command line entrys to

1: kill the media scanner

su kill -9 ______ ???

EDIT: is this the command?

su

killall mediaserver

2: disable the modem

Yup APN settings are there, but the icon (concentric circle) doesn't have a green dot unless I tap it. Either way no 3G

Thank you for the help - maybe some hope here yet!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] arbailey3:
The kernel update fixed it temporarily.

This morning I received a text, I went and replied, and the msg wouldn't go. So I shutdown and restarted android. Ever since the restart, no data, text, or voice access of any sort, to verify issues were not with my device, went back into windows and it works fine. So, I reinstalled 2.1b, no luck.

I'm going to attempt to go back to 2.1alpha4 to see if that works, but as of right now, I might have to just give up on android for the time being.

I can provide any info you might need.

Phone: ATT Tilt

Radio: 1.71.09.01

Using Haret
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I do it a little different, I hit menu (wait 2 minutes for menu to come up) select settings --> applications --> Running processes. Then select media scanner and kill it. No typing needed. Then I open the modem program and disconnect the connection, wait a minute or 2 and then reconnect. I just tested at work and I have the little 3G icon at top. I wonder if it is your area? I have AT&T 3G and HSDPA(3.5G) in my area. There might be something there. I will have to see if I get 3g in a non-HSDPA area
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poots:
Fn Keys messed up dispite correct flash

UK Kaiser handset (Fn + Q = @) with polymod 2.1b running from nand

Have flashed to nand successfully, however Fn keys are still in AT&T style. Have used the latest .nbh (specifically KAISIMG-PANEL3-320.NBH dated 20/02/10) and even tried the AT&T nbh just incase...

have looked into key mappings (system/usr/keylayout/) from the install.tar and I dont have the keyboard mapping knowledge to see whats wrong, if some one has a 'virgin' map of the kaisers keybindings (key numbers and functions) I may be able to rectify myself.

any ideas? (perhaps poly has the build set up AT&T as default keymap?)

thanks in advance.

BTW the build is running silky smooth with only a couple of audio driver crashes. great work so far!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Instead of giving up completely on android try anther build myn's warm donut over at vogue's android forum is probably the most complete working donut build works great on my tilt. great user experience. I am going back to it after I get done playing with eclair. Im like a kid in a candy store gotta try them all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Another update? Lol, just as I get used to the last one, a new build appears, must install.....

:D

Installation proceeding smoothly, decided to try a 428 nbh this time, tried 320, felt a little cramped, even with 5 screens to choose from, 480 everything seems a little too small.

Still love that nexus boot screen, and we're go for launch :)

seems a little faster getting to the setup screen, 3g started reasonably quickly too, as always a little slow to start, but it's a carrier issue.

Everything seems fine, time to go experiment with java, see if I can get trekbuddy working on this ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] arbailey3:
So, I noticed a small irregularity in something, the APN Profile was named ATT yet the name that Android is showing for my carrier was Cingular. I switched the names, and restarted and voila, working 3g.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
The keyboard mapping is set in the NBH same as the panel type, not in the build.

Noticed that the 20/02 nbh's on sourceforge are that way, so went back to the 15/02 nbh from dzo, since these are more device specific, and you can choose tilt or non tilt keyboard types, not noticed any major differences otherwise between the two.

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D

: Note that you do not have to reinstall Android, just flash the NBH, pull the battery, reinsert and restart, voila, uk keyboard :)

Hope this helps some :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
3G results

Same here, my carrier shows AT&T and I have that little 3G logo. I just tested it; I don’t know based off the numbers if it is just 3G or HSDPA; though those high numbers point to mild HSDPA. So here is what I got after 10 tests

Down KBps/Up KBps

1: 868/355

2: 486/287

3: 1636/356

4: 1695/315

5: 663/357

6: 280/126

7: 1752/266

8: 1708/362

9: 1149/364

10: 570/301

All within 10 minutes; average was: 1080 KBps Up and 319 KBps Down
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poots:
I think this and my keymapping issue are linked, it looks like some user settings/customizations from the original test handset are left in this build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Do people actually prefer 240x320? IMO, a higher resolution is always better, which is why I use 320x480. I've tried 240x320, but everything seems too large (and the dialer doesn't fit properly).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aqtrans:
I just did a quick port of this build, and although it's much slower than this build the brightness setting works, so those problems seem to lie in something with this build specifically and not the rootfs. My build still doesn't sleep fully though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
LOL are you serious? Larger is better but Kaiser has a 4:3 screen..so 320x480 doesnt fit since thats 3:2 aspect ratio.. so android is gunna look squished. Also the DPI for the kaisers LCD is built for 320x240... so anything higher will look blurry...oppose to clear and crisp. if anything try 640x480(if possible)...least that can scale to our screen without altering the image. 320x240 too large, still use a stylus in ANDROID?????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rayzine:
No, I prefer 240x320. As my Tytn ii is QVGA... with higher resolution, the fonts and icons are too small and not "finger-touch" friendly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I sort of see your point, even though I hate when stuff takes up more of the screen than it has to. But do you do when the dialer doesn't entirely fit on your screen? Because sometimes that is the case with 240x320.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
lcd density=110 fits everything property..its just things gets slightly smaller, which is what you want right?? Its not taking up more screen than it has to..its taking the amount of screen you physically have, and adding a longer scroll bar. While keeping the UI and everything the same size across screens ranging 2.8" to 4.3 inches. Havent you seen a Video of android running high res? Its pretty much the other way around..you got too much screen space compared to the UI and everything looks smaller.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Yeah, that might be better. You must not have noticed, but in polyrhythmic's startup.txt that he has linked to in the first post, his lcd.density is 120. That's what I was using because I assumed it was optimal with 240x320. Scaling it to 110 however does make things a bit smaller, so things aren't as huge as they had been before. The dialer also fits. So yeah, I might like this better now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I'll still run 320x480 personally unless I find something I like better. It's a personal choice really.

So I got the rootfs.img perms fixed, using the old style with updated files. Things are more sane in that root is correct, telnet works, etc. but the usual still applies. No power collapse and all. Still can't use this daily because of it but it sure is nicer than Donut in terms of responsiveness. Hopefully that will get addressed but I think that's a little more advanced than I can handle myself at this point.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] LOTG:
Is it usable for us too? If so could you post it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tnayrbj:
Thanks

I am having an issue with gaining an IP address with Wireless, I tried two gateways, one has WEP and the other has no security.

It just will not gain IP address. YES I have latest files and radio.

Other than that the software is running great. I really love the 2.0

Thanks

Jon
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AciDCooL:
I havent updated my android since 1.0.. Cause then sms didnt work properly and thats the main thing I use my phone for.

Allot has changed mostly for the better.. I really like this build cause gps is working.. Omg no need for winmo anymore :)..

I have 2 bugs.. or 1 bug and 1 related issue

I can't install the newest google maps. it fails to install. Now ive read a bit and I have to remove it from the system partition by hand.

BUT!!! I cant find the shell anywhere in this build.. tried the terminal emulator from the market but it doesn't reconize the commands im giving it.

Or do I have to use the sdk tool throug usb?

Starting to feel like alice who tumbled down the rabbithole :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tnayrbj:
try it again

I had to redownload it a few times and then it updated. give that a try. Just don't take no for an answer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Here is clue as to where the white rabbit went, and why the door is locked :D... You can't use the mount, remount and read-write commands with using a sqsh or img system file (they are read only). You have to change the system file to an ext2 file. If you can change it an ext2 file, then you will be able to follow the commands to remove and force install the new google maps. However, the one included in this build should be the new one.

Here is a way to make an ext2, if you can get staysafe to work. I was unable to, but that will do it

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5075077&postcount=218
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AciDCooL:
Thx allot for ur help guys ill check it out tonight when I get home.

Installed version google maps = 3.2.1 and the newest = 3.3.1

Btw is it allready posible to install it to an partition on the sdcard or is that still a feature for the future?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
As ajclai08 mentions, I like the 240x320 because it matches our aspect ratio. I work with graphics for a living, the squished 320x480 just looks too weird to my brain. Also, the animation and transitions seem smoother at native QVGA resolution...

@enatefox: Great work. I'd like to give it a try, does it stop the endless chdir keystore permissions errors? Are there any downsides to your hybrid rootfs?

@AcidCooL: As it says in the first post, use ConnectBot in local mode for a terminal. Of course, there is always adb shell.

@tnayrbj: Sometimes WiFi works better after a reboot. It's hard to guess what the problem is, do the adb error logs show anything?

@j101399j: If you already have the system installed on your partition, you can just enter this over adb shell or terminal:

su
mount -o rw,remount /system

Then you can delete the offending *Maps files and install the new ones. You won't be able to remount /system as read-only because it's running, so reboot after the changes are made so that your /system folder is mounted read-only.

If you want to make changes to an .img file on your Linux Desktop, you can mount it to a folder and make changes. Any changes have to be made as root, you were probably having trouble because you were trying to copy/delete files in the image as a normal user.

Only the .sqsh files have to be decompressed to make changes and then recompressed -- they are like a use-once ZIP file.