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[General Topics] MasterDecker:
Nice "leak," it definately made me take a quick step back. My wife has been thinking to get me the AT&T Tilt 2 for Christmas, but I've been reluctant to get it because of the price. And now with the leak of what basically looks like the Tilt 3, I definately want to wait, SIMPLY because when it is released, the Tilt 2 will drop down in price to more of what I FEEL it is worth.

Currently both myself & my wife have the Kaiser a.k.a. AT&T Tilt. It's been a great phone for us, and does what we need & more. Working in sales when I am out on sales calls, I simply use my phone to log into my workstation, access our inventory, and even place an order for a customer, all within a couple minutes.

But with the upcoming releases of the newer HTC devices they all look promising in each of their own ways. The "Tilt 3" looks almost as an exact copy of the Tilt 2, with about the same specs. That is kind of upsetting that they couldn't "up the anti" for the device.

But never the less the new devices will be welcomed by many of us, and even the iPhone converts.
[General Topics] tbaker077:
I find this to be a bit odd as they posted a previous rumor saying the Passion will have a 3.5in screen ad is OLED. While the rumors of the Bravo is a 3.7in AMOLED screen. Then this brings the point what the hell is the Dragon or did that get renamed as the Bravo? At this point I am not sure what is right. I just got the Eris and was thinking about swapping for the Passion under the 30 days(if it came out in December) but there is no substantial facts so I will happily keep the Eris.
[General Topics] arimozuki:
yeah, im major confused myself. i would have wanted this bravo, but it just doesnt look right. however, considering it is an operator branding, it probably differs per operator and the unlocked version looks different as well, just like the hero. i was just about to buy the hero (i prefer unlocked phones), but that legend seems worth the wait ... SEEMS. it may not be out until later than march, the unlocked version may be fugly, im just SO! confused right now, wish all phone companies would just release a 2 year road map already!
[General Topics] sdlopez83:
None of these phones are win7 compatible I do not think. If they are they are borderline. What are we missing?

WIN7 right hello. 2010

Prediction:

All of these phones are the minor phones that will come out,-- but the real flagship phone will be the heavy hitter to premier windows 7. I think it will be hyped for much of 2010 and then come out next October, or at least be leaked specs in February. HTC is holding out to blow us away soon enough. Does not take a rocket scientist to figure that these phones are all ****.

What say u guys?
[General Topics] Ganondolf:
par one android phone (bravo) the rest is a load of crap.

let me think....like a touch pro but ****ter.... should i buy????.......er NO.
[General Topics] koen-ronse:
We can only hope that the reason of missing high-end WM-phones in the list is because of something like I found in the following article... (highlighted) :p
[General Topics] galaxys:
The passion/bravo just showed up on the pdadb site with eta of Jan 2010:

http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2120&view=1&c=htc_passion_htc_bravo
[General Topics] tats_06:
Apparently the GSM version...what about CDMA? :(
[General Topics] tbaker077:
I hear the CDMA version for Sprint may actually be called Incredible, while the VZW is what we have kept hearing the name Passion.
[General Topics] Paul22000:
Note there's another page for the Bravo on pdadb.net!

Drum roll please!!!

It's confirmed!

Please say Welcome to the new and confirmed:

>> T-Mobile Bravo <<

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2121&c=t-mobile_bravo_htc_bravo

[Edit]: Also note that the RAM went up to 320 MB, not 256!!!
[General Topics] commodore65:
glad i held off from getting a HD2, like the smaller form factor of the bravo too. Only thing putting me off switching from winmo to android is joining all those Self-righteous ignorant android fanboys.

I dont believe the speculation that the US will get a phone 3 month before us european counterparts. I dont think that has happened with any handset in the past and it doesnt make any economic sense either.
[General Topics] wonderbread57:
Being on pdadb doesn't make it anymore official. The people who compiled those specs are just like us, shmoes on the internet searching for bits of rummors. Notice how they are using the leaked pics from October for their "HTC Zoom 2 (HTC Dragon)". Site is not worth mentioning imo.
[General Topics] hooraysimpsons:
Can i pretend its official so that I don't feel bad for getting the Droid tomorrow?

I really hate waiting to get a new phone once I'm eligible but if I thought something great was on the horizon I'd try to wait. However, if its coming out on T-Mo then it makes me feel better about getting a phone now.
[General Topics] AwsmAdm:
1. The iphone came to the US first (although it is US based... and HTC is based in Asia so thats not really a good example... just saying it's happened)

2. It does make sense economically as Android is doing far better in the US than it is in Europe
[General Topics] tbaker077:
Makes you wonder how well Android is doing in Australia, or a newer market like Canada or Asia?
[General Topics] Fuzi0719:
somebody needs to use a photo site a bit more reliable and handy than photobucket :D
[General Topics] josefcrist:
agreed. I own e-harddrive.com if someone wants to make a site i can host it.
[General Topics] pb&jelly:
HTC has always launched handsets in Europe first (not including phones designated only for the North American market). That doesn't preclude the Passion/Bravo launching in North America in January per the rumors, but history suggests otherwise.

Having said that, the Bravo/Passion is my next phone. Here's hoping the rumors are true
[General Topics] B3ler3fonte:
First of all as many noticed, all the recently uploaded pics on this thread, apparently, caused bandwidth exceed, so will have to reuploaded em again somewhere else and it will b done definitely from the scratch soon with a better quality as many complaint about them…Causing even ppl’s doubt about the originality…Too bad..Why? Here w go….

Well from what I have seen so far and most of u as well, it wasn’t a coincidence that few days later ai.rs blog hosted a better quality image of the forthcoming Bravo (which obviously either already possessed or asked for it to draw more attention as they did successfully), giving total credibility to the original ones.. Coincidence? I don’t think so…The question of coz remains the same… “Whether ppl knew b4 or not about Bravo” and they were simply expecting some1 to post it first in order to make the step and make it even more official. Probably they did not…;) Lets not fool ourselves...

Whatever is the result of such an assumption will have to truly declare (based on HTC’s future portfolio) HTC’s 180 degrees turn, to a more consumer-based phones on some handsets coz that’s the segment which the company aims for next year and seeks for (mass market segment), without of coz, leaving aside and underestimating what HTC initials stand for… So definitely, do expect, apart from those devices shown exclusively and for the 1st time around the net, here on xda’s, better and more advanced devices which aim to the majority of those who want something more than a simple voice/data feature handset. Finally, to put things in an order…Bravo is the final name of this device definitely for EU market with a slight chance to be renamed for some Operators in US etc like Passion and/or Dragon as happened in previous models...NO question about it. But definitely EU as correctly stated before, by some of you, is the first priority for loads of reasons which I won’t clarify here.

Of coz, I am not the one to tell you whether you should wait or not in order to buy a phone now or wait till next yr…coz this only depends by you as HTC’s customers…

Below find a pic of Bravo, not scanned but taken through another handset's cam, from the same source the original ones came from, just to prove that simply the source (booklet) does exist….I do like how the “rumor” keeps on flowing…and many address it as “speculated-devices” (lol) when all is done and they r just not projects but final samples just b4 line of production... Peace...

http://reloadedbl.pixa.us/images/18605863/18605863
[General Topics] whoa718:
Where are the answer and end call keys?
[General Topics] edoftech:
why do the wm phones only have 600mhz processers?

they have both the windows and the home key so should be prepared for windows 7

dont they need at least 1ghz to use windows 7?

but im loving the look of the trophy
[General Topics] sindrefyrn:
Image links is dead.
[General Topics] tbaker077:
Well there is photos floating around from Google works of a phone that looks like original Passion/Dragon leaks with a camera EXIF data saying it's the Nexus one. It looks to me it might a Google Dev phone similar to how the Dream and Sapphire have a Dev phones version.
[General Topics] Paul22000:
The Google Phone / Nexus One:
[General Topics] tbaker077:
some specs and rendered pic of the Hero replacement? http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/13/htc-legend-still-looking-good-as-a-render-anyway/
[General Topics] Acceptable:
More pictures leaked. Tetris block laser show as background.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/14/exclusive-first-google-phone-nexus-one-photos-android-2-1-on/
[General Topics] commodore65:
Re the pics above of the nexus google phone, i think it looks really really grey and boring not a patch on the HD2 handset design
[General Topics] |Logic|:
im going to lol myself to sleep everynight till the bravo comes out if its on tmo only and not verizon.
[General Topics] galaxys:
Sweet Dreams :D
[General Topics] B3ler3fonte:
I laughed my head out galaxys with ur answer ;) Indeed many out there already dreaming of Bravo....including me as well..

Anyway's...I have trully fresh news to share with you which absolutely make sense why in HTC's portfolio there are no such WM7 phones...and just simple QWERTY or not, WM6.5 ones.

Microsoft, as many of you already know...moved back, the primal release of WM7 and chosen HTC as strategic vendor to launch the first HTC WM7 device late on Q2, start of Q3 2010 (Septmeber), so everything up to now, is under discussion and will be finalised till End of April of 2010.

PS: Glad to see once more that...some others are digging out directly from HTC "crystal clear images" of Bravo, Legend and who knows...still seeking for the rest like Salsa/Tera...And u call this exclusive? Indeed... "it is" :P
[General Topics] se1988:
Can you PLEASE add the jpegs to xda, as of now your photobucket is out of bandwidth... pleeeeaseee??:rolleyes:
[General Topics] galaxys:
Welcome to the XDA forum. But your off to a rocky start, you posted on the wrong thread :confused:
[General Topics] altec1000:
So no upgrade for the HD2?
[General Topics] B3ler3fonte:
Definately yes as its the first device on the market which will be able to handle WM7 and its requirements, but this won't happen as it was planned (End of Feb - mid March 2010), but really later on when WM7 will officially b released.

Unless they will plan to have a kind upgrade version of WM7, which i totally doupt about it....Don't expect anything before September 2010...

Besides Mr. Phil Moore, who's in charge on the mobile OS section of MS in UK, confirmed that they won't be any WM7 devices on the market, before August 2010 and ppl, should expect the first ones to arrive on the Q4 of 2010.

On a press conference which took place recently at the summit «Connect!» in London, Mr.Moore stated: "The release of our new mobile OS, is postponed for the end of next year but it will definately take pace. You will witness much more on Windows Mobile 7. Meeting the requirements of business users and private customers, is the subject of Windows Mobile 7. There will be flexibility through a much easier UI based on touch experience".

Moore also admitted, that Microsoft is still trying to 'catch up' with the iPhone from Apple. "It is true that Apple caught us all to sleep. They brought up on the market, a completely new device with an impressive UI.» Its trully the first time, that MS, makes such an assumption as you may all guess, about iPhone and its capabilities...

Last September, Microsoft confirmed that a team of 1,000 developers working in Windows Mobile 7, plan to incorporate social networks as a key function. Since then there has been relative calm, however, Microsoft executives confirmed, that they will make announcements on Windows Mobile 7 at MIX 2010 conference next March.
[General Topics] Shasarak:
Are you saying that there will be an official WM7 upgrade ROM released for the HD2?

And, if so, are you saying this because you have some information from within HTC that confirms it, or are you just speculating as a private citizen?

The problem is that WM7 is likely to be released round about the time that the replacement model for the HD2 is launched. If the HD3 (or whatever it is called) ships with WM7, I would expect HTC not to offer a WM7 upgrade for the HD2 in order to persuade HD2 owners to buy a new handset. If they release a WM7 upgrade for the HD2 that will seriously cannibalise HD3 sales.

I can believe that HTC may have originally intended to release a WM7 upgrade for the HD3, back when they thought that WM7 would ship sooner. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if you told me that they actually intended the HD2 to ship with WM7 right from the beginning - several aspects if its design only make sense for a WM7 device. But I would have expected that plan to have changed once it became obvious that the WM7 won't be available until Q4 next year.
[General Topics] tbaker077:
screen shots of an updated Sense UI? http://www.androidcentral.com/screenshots-show-possible-sense-ui-htc-espresso
[General Topics] yes_senpai:
I really would have liked to see the Dragon soon.
[General Topics] Nielsepiels:
Definitely don't like the glass buttons. Looks cheap to me...
[General Topics] sleepingsickness:
damn dude

photobucket always gets its bandwidth exceeded...

I WANNA SEE DA PHONEZ

:)
[General Topics] TheContact:
only place I could remember from the top of my head that had them...

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/htcs-2010-roadmap-goes-on-display/

which was sourced from this thread sooo... :)
[General Topics] TheContact:
The Nexus One and the Bravo, are they the same phone in different shells? Specs are near identical, and as posted earlier in the thread the Bravo may be getting a RAM upgrade to 512MB which the Nexus One has...

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/exclusive-nexus-one-full-specs-detailed-invite-only-retail-sal/

*sigh* wishing it would run Windows Mobile...as nice as the HD2 is, its just so damn big...
[General Topics] guap:
no snapdragon with full qwerty... I'm very sad :(
[General Topics] orb3000:
Same here:(

I don´t think we will see it till 2011...

Meantime I´ll stay loyal to Rhodium:)
[General Topics] tats_06:
I am still waiting to hear details about HTC Passion/Bravo/Nexus/Whatever coming to VZW :p
[General Topics] guap:
me too with my xperia... but I'm falling in love with android, and this is very DANGEROUS :D
[General Topics] wonderbread57:
Yes, me too. The latest speculation is that the "Incredible" is the codename for the U.S. version of Bravo, coming to VZW according to Engadget. But this news is a week stale and unsubstantiated. I think people are getting borderline angry with the lack of information about an HTC Android 2.x phone for Verizon.
[General Topics] ElCondor:
And I would like to see the Trophy in full glory, I mean it's just an awesome device! It is really going to be mine as soon as it comes out!

I rendered the pic using some attributes from the Snap:

I did because photoshop is my hobby... I am still not very good at it but I learn more and more.

Oh and sorry for the watermark, but otherwise there might be sites copying it and saying it is a leak or something like that...
[General Topics] wonderbread57:
Wow, nicely done. You could create a very successful mobile blog site with your own renders posing as leaked pics if you wanted.
[General Topics] jasonchiu:
Apart from the smaller screen, the is the Tera a better device?

I was to get the HD2, but its way to big for my preference.

I am wondering if I should get the TP2 or wait for the Tera.
[General Topics] orb3000:
Go for Rhodium definitely!

Tera is not a better device

To see something better than Rhodium we should wait till 2011...
[General Topics] jasonchiu:
thanks for your advice, but how are you drawing that conclusion?

if its just the screen size that the rhodium is better, i would get the tera as the processor is faster.

:p
[General Topics] sam640:
Orange Network

For those on the U.K orange network,

I rang up customer services last night regarding an upgrade which is due in Feb, the kind lady over the phone mentioned that orange are currently reviewing the HTC BRAVO.

Due release date: March 10.

:D:D:D
[General Topics] wonderbread57:
A phone company that actually tells customers what's going on!? Wow.

I wonder if reviewing means looking at specs and mock ups or if there is actually a prototype out there. thanks for the info
[General Topics] the-wrangler:
yep, i was wondering the same thing..theyre quite similar though
[General Topics] manoli20:
I didnt have to quote the photo aswelll.... but damn! if thats what the trophy WERE to look like id buy it in a flash. Great job. still think its a great phone, but i dnt understand why they wouldnt put a dpad/touch pad etc on it... oh well, hopefully they see sense :)

EDIT: wait, does the trophy come with touch pad... looking again at the photo, i cant tell... its too grainy in the middle?! cheers.
[General Topics] khaliltheking:
All these new HTC models are still inferior to the LEO.

yes the bravo have AOLED screen but believe me I just bougth the LEO for my self and the Omnia II for my GF. And the difference in screen size is huge while using the same interface SPBShell 3.5.

Now about Androiid and WM6.5... Well I'm sure somebody will get the droid on the Leo before the release of the Bravo (4 month to go).

And finally about WM7: I'm sure HTC will never give away a free up-grade especially if WM7 and HTC HD3 are released simultanously in Q4 of 2010. However we have the WM 6.5 installed on devices like the Niki, Kaiser, cruize.

So I will be just a matter of weeks before having a working WM7 on the only WM7-ready phone (LEO).
[General Topics] ElCondor:
Hehe thanks, I hope it'll have a dpad, it's indeed too grainy to see it.
[General Topics] B3ler3fonte:
Soon my hands on Bravo...Will keep u posted guys....Stay tuned ;)
[General Topics] paalkr:
WOW! You lucky man :) Keep us informed, can't wait for the device to show up at the resellers. I'm really looking forward to the HTC Bravo. Based up on the available information I think think the device will be the best one from HTC ever.

Regards,

PK
[General Topics] drive2droad:
nice quick set , i am really awaiting a newer & better android release from HTC for upgrading my really useless nokia5800XM to a newer powerful android experience
[General Topics] js1999:
I'm waiting for the newer Android stuff too.
[General Topics] Mobile of Sorrow:
Dood....I,am Dissapointed...no really worthy Hammerdevices ,

but the Year is long i know!
[General Topics] Nielsepiels:
Any info yet?
[General Topics] wonderbread57:
Please do keep us up to date. I am thinking of moving to Europe for this phone ;).
[General Topics] rumpleforeskin:
Talanted developers at XDA have been making linux ports for many WM devices through the years and all of them have taken a very very long time to reach a bootable state, and even then have been far from what you want as an everyday device. These projects are done as a challenge and rarley result in in an ideal operating system as many functions are still not complete. Your prediction of android on the leo in 4 months seems a little unlikley.

you can keep an eye on Android development on the HD2 in this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=578575&highlight=android
[General Topics] bradavon:
The HD2 already has a 1Ghz processor and they cost money, putting the price up. I'd imagine the 500Mz range mobiles sell in bigger numbers.

Me too :(. I hate Blackberry style mobiles.

True but HTC Touch Sense is a big pull for me. It's so fantastic. I'd rather stick to official ROMs, than custom ones.

I'm waiting for the Bravo too or Legend if the Bravo is too big but as the Bravo will be a more reasonable size (over the HD2) I suspect I'll get the Bravo. As good as the Nexus One looks, the Google interface is no where near as good as HTC's.
[General Topics] Darkaz:
do it has 512 ram?
[General Topics] wonderbread57:
Looks like someone got a hold of it (and took pictures) before you:

Mmmm, I can almost TASTE it!
[General Topics] drive2droad:
there is no mention of a certain handset called "Halo" here , its being quite buzzed around the intrawebs eversince Eldar Murtazin from mobilereview.net had something to say about it. If possible could anyone shed some light on it.
[General Topics] krjcook:
Nice render

Oh great render. I hope it looks like that i've been meaning to replace my Blackjack II for a while now, but I don't like Touch screen only phones or phone with sliding keyboards which makes the Trophy a perfect upgrade.
[General Topics] hidnface:
Agree with you.

Till now I haven't seen a phone capable of replacing my i780. But I think the Trophy is going to do it. One negative aspect is that I heard that the Trophy is not going to be commercialized around the world, but only in major countries.
[General Topics] krjcook:
I totally agree. I love all the knew phones being released, but I only sung on one form factor and that's the Front Facing QWERTY Phone.

About the the availability or the phone I'm not sure and May have to buy it Unlocked because i'm in the USA and Most great phones don't come to us. Hopefully with the "T-Mobile Natco Day" labels on the pics means that it's coming to the Tmobile US as well as EU.
[General Topics] wonderbread57:
The liveliness of this thread is pretty pitiful, but since the phandroid forums are equally pitiful when it comes to handling web traffic (they are down) I have no where else to post this than here:

pretty, no?
[General Topics] tbaker077:
Do want. btw does it have any new htc widgets?
[General Topics] Nielsepiels:
Here's a preview of Android 2.1 with HTC Sense for the Hero, which shows new widgets/functionality etc. I think Sense for the Bravo will be similar:

http://www.androidworld.nl/11145/howto-android-2-1-voor-de-htc-hero-incl-videoreview/

Beware, it's in Dutch...
[General Topics] jasonchiu:
Any news on the Tera? I am wondering if I should wait for the Tera or get the TP2.

Opinions appreciated!
[General Topics] anaadoul:
Who said that will stop them? seems someone took the entire background out and sent it to MSMobiles :)

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8925.html
[General Topics] MasterTP:
My guess is that Edward at MSMobiles did it himself...he famous for pulling those kind of stunts to generate traffic..
[General Topics] Didon:
Looks nice
[General Topics] htcfreak:
Kwel info, thanks..!!!
[General Topics] orb3000:
HTC Espresso (myTouch Slide) pics and perliminary specs

Not sure if posted before:

More:

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat...deja-ver-en-fotos&lp=es_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
[General Topics] sdlopez83:
Don't know what that espresso is about. But The Flagship device will be the HD3 and pics where leaked with specs somewhere on this site last week.

oh yeah and its got Windows 7.
[General Topics] Shasarak:
All alleged specs of the HD3 that have been "leaked" to date have been shown to be fake.
[General Topics] Nielsepiels:
Official renders:

Legend & Bravo
[General Topics] krjcook:
It looks like this leaked portfolio is mostly true. 3 of the phones from this leak: the Photon, Bravo, and Legend were announced @ MWC. While the phones names did change to the HD2 Mini and Desire, the Legend kept it's original name. I'm still hoping that HTC will announce the Trophy at some time before summer.