yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Android Development] Janis:
Oh, good. I'm not the only one who's confused about how the WG ROM shifts stuff around memory-wise.

I'm wondering what the benfit is to havig the dalvik-cache on board rather than on the card. As I understand it (pretty much from CM threads), with a class 6 card for sure, but even class 2 cards in some instances, the access to the card is actually faster, or at least equal to internal, and the free internal memory is alway a nice perk. I thought that was why Cyanogen switched it. I feel like I have a sketchy base for this statement, though, so some enlightenment would be extrememly welcome.

I know with apps2SD the apps go to the EXT partition, but the data they store doesn't, so with my long app list makes for impossibly big data storage (my task list is way too long becuase I'm poking around on XDA too much), I really like the additional on-board storage for that (like 30+ mb). I have Hyakuro's (sp?) Danger SPL, and I've just been freed up from checking my left over memory regularly. I thought I noticed a performance improvement, too, but that' so subjective, and I don't know for sure that additional RAM is what did it. I use TA utility too. Handy.

I really like the idea of an incremental-type update. It would also, eventually, I'd guess, like MetaMorph, allow users to pick the parts they want. I'm not a fan of squashFS, but I like using a linux swap without CC, for example. Many Kudos on this idea!

I've also noticed my writing is getting nearly illegibly abbreviated after reading this thread; I can tell this ROM attracts speed fiends. It's harder to read, though. (hint, hint)

I'm not getting my brain around these various installers, either. When do they happen? Can I not do them? Are they listed all in one place with a discription of what they do? I've tried reading almost the whole thread, I'm still not quite clear, maybe because I quick-read it stem to stern, and my brain didn't hang on to the right stuff through all the issues discussions.???

Thanks!
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
On paper, you're right

In testing, it just isn't working like that

Exactly about the update app - Linux works by daily updates of diff things

The update app I want to develop would let people choose their kernel as incremental changes plus small framework changes and etc
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
It will work on 10.2 if you run that

It may be a bit broken because it's so beta =/

CC is broken on it
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Put that in the OP - thanks
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Just check out the OP for the differences

I note that it is upped from CM version blah, then my changes are listed after that
[G1 Android Development] itzmotto:
So now we can juast run 10.2 with doing a increment update first?
[G1 Android Development] alongenemylines:
wg,

camera is borked with 2.9.32 kernel. just a beta testing report.
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Thanks - anything in the logcat?
[G1 Android Development] alongenemylines:
I believe this is everything for the camera. that should show both the camera magic app, and the default camera app.
[G1 Android Development] itzmotto:
Any ringtones or notifications for this?
[G1 Android Development] gwydionwaters:
i am very curious as to what is happening with some peoples devices. i am using the beta kernel and 10.2 and both compcache and the camera work just fine. the 10.2 cc fix worked for me on the new kernel. very interesting..
[G1 Android Development] gwydionwaters:
those whom compcache is acting up..

please put two files from this zip on your ext partition

working link :)

then run

userinit.sh -s

please post the following

1) your device, dream/magic

2) the error given from the above command

thanks
[G1 Android Development] itzmotto:
Ok i have a problem im running the: CFS with 10MB RAM Hack

and i downloaded and booted the fixme.zip but im not getting me email to sync
[G1 Android Development] Jigga0o7:
In my experience with the beta kernel I was unable to turn on Wifi and Compcache did not work. It was fast as all hell and I would've kept it if Wifi worked. Does Wifi work for you? And if Compcache works for you, tell me if you did something different than I.

1. Install kernel.

2. Flash Compcache Fix in Recovery

3. Reboot

The User.conf Userinit I have in System/SD use CC w/ backswap. I even tried pushing the files to System/SD again just incase they were over written but still a no-go.
[G1 Android Development] illusive817:
Thanks i appreciate it
[G1 Android Development] surfoni101:
Now 4.2.10 is out when should expect your update?
[G1 Android Development] gwydionwaters:
yes wifi works fine for me.

i came from previous versions, i was at 10.2 then installed compcache update then the kernel. in this order since that is the order they came about. are the files there if you ls the system/sd directory? try the script userinit from my previous post. i fixed the previously broken link. the script when run from the same dir as you user.conf, userinit.sh -s will output what is running for cc and give any errors about the module etc..
[G1 Android Development] gwydionwaters:
they are in the system/media/audio directory. i can email you my collection if you need more, just pm me you address. and they work from the directories; alarms, notifications, ringtones on the sdcard. there is slight lag when used off sd though
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Ya it includes many from Eclair

it symlinks to /data/media
[G1 Android Development] 2girls1cup:
with cyanogen's constant upgrades, I bet he's putting you to work man
[G1 Android Development] gwydionwaters:
ok so i only thought i had the beta kernel, no wonder everything worked lol

now i have the same issues as others reported, wifi camera and compcache are broken.

i am trying to figure out the compcache issue at the moment.
[G1 Android Development] indarios:
Its too bad about not having workable modules with the .32 kernel. Man is it snappy! Even without compcache I can finally run pandora in the background and still use my phone normally. I wont be able to keep it since were missing drivers, too bad. Is there any way to backport the missing features into the old kernel?
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
I would love someone to help with wifi drivers

Haven't looked at libqcamera yet - someone mentioned that camera was broken in .32

Is it for you?

honestly, I never use wifi so I could post it as now without wifi
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
I never compiled compcache into it for .32 - could you help look at the camera?
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Eh I have been working on so many other projects that CM isn't too hard to update anymore

Looking at the Cliq source now - may include some bits into WGBuild
[G1 Android Development] sabin123:
After flashing the rom is it compulsory to sign in the google account or can it be escaped. I just flashed your rom and i can,t passed through the google account.
[G1 Android Development] alongenemylines:
On the last 2 releases (10 and 10.2) I've been able to skip signing in at first boot. I always sign in by opening the market. I haven't heard of issues with this rom, but I know some other roms would freeze up if you signed in immediately on first boot. It's just become a habit of mine.
[G1 Android Development] alongenemylines:
Just looked at the changelog for CM 4.2.10.1 ...

I want to request that T-Mobile's IM app be removed, as CM has finally done. That thing's a huge annoyance to me. Removing amazon mp3 is as simple as removing the apk, but remove IM's apk, and FC's galore.
[G1 Android Development] ID#:
I think this will happen anyway, as soon as the base for WG-Builds is the new CM :)
[G1 Android Development] bug666:
Do you guys use Compcache or Linux-swap...? Which is faster...?
[G1 Android Development] CmraLvr2:
Compcache seems to make mine run slower than using nothing. I'm playing with Linux-swap right now and setting different swappiness. I've currently have it set to 20 and I have the swap partition set larger than most (from what I have read) at 128Mb. I'm still trying to find the sweet spot and doing tests for myself of whether any swap is faster for my setup that using no swap. It's a bit subjective and isn't what I would call a one size fits all. Your mileage may vary.
[G1 Android Development] Snakebear:
I'm still having trouble with my contacts, I tried the fix but I'm unclear on how to use it. Can anyone explain. Do I run it like a normal update or do I unzip the files on to the sd card? Please help. I'm also having problems with my alarm clock app.
[G1 Android Development] gwydionwaters:
i'll try and squeeze it in, i am pretty busy from tonight until the day after boxing day and then i'm back at work during the day. if not before i should be able to get at it after work from then on.
[G1 Android Development] djluis48:
Hm....where is the link to build 11? O.o

EDIT:

My bad, tought that he was talking about the kernel being released tomorrow...not the whole build :P
[G1 Android Development] carnegie0107:
Haha. I'm anxious, too. I would LOVE to see a WesGarnerized version of the latest Cyanogen... his new build is so full of epic win, that it makes me use internet/gamer colloquialisms like, "full of epic win," (a thing I would normally never do).
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Looking forward to this as well. Nice christmas present!
[G1 Android Development] Jamdat33:
Does anyone have any black bar metamorphs or themes that work on the rom??
[G1 Android Development] ccriffman:
Audio Hack

Hey Ace- I have been using the audio hack ever since Build 8.5 of this Rom, and it works great. I just dl'd the one from market (free) and it boosts the Audio substantially. Just dl it and play with the settings; you'll see what I mean- Chris aka ccriffman:D
[G1 Android Development] Digitalthug:
Enoch theme works flawlessly, its the best dark theme out imo.
[G1 Android Development] Jamdat33:
Thanks man!
[G1 Android Development] bug666:
My empirical experience seems to be the same - CompCache slows things down rather than speeds them up.

BTW, I made a 256MB swap partition and make use of it for linux-swap. But apparently it's way over much... After launching lots of apps just around 80MB is used.
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
96 is the best to use, but 1.6 roms dont even need swap, i recc to use it only with eclair or hero roms...Whoever told you its a overkill is right, the phone is searching through alot of memory thats unused making it slower..

Heres a ex..

Would you rather drive 96 miles

or

Drive 256 when less than 96 miles are needed?

Edit: heres a better one

Search threw a hay stack will 96 pounds or search through haystack w/ 256 pounds of hay?
[G1 Android Development] CmraLvr2:
After limited testing I seem to be fastest with no compcache, swap, nada, much as you imply here. More testing required,... :D
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
But dont test too much, the nand in the phone can get worn out if you continue this flashing rampage that most do, but then again by the time that happens you might have switched phones.
[G1 Android Development] BrutalHoe:
u know wes u said tomorrow like 2 days ago.....
[G1 Android Development] illusive817:
i agree...

but i hope he puts in the eclairs 2.0 browser in this build
[G1 Android Development] inuyasha84:
I'm really looking forward to this, but I can't wait anymore so I think I'll switch to cyanogen tonight, looks like there are many improvements in his latest build.
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Ya sorry - got caught up in Christmas

I have been syncing Cyanogen's GIT daily, so when I release one today - it will be build off the ROM he is working on now

Still working on the kernel - just haven't had time
[G1 Android Development] illusive817:
Thanks for all the effort you have put into it

You made me happy to have a g1 again!
[G1 Android Development] crypysmoker:
Woot.. Cant wait for the next update. I found one little problem this week running 10.2.... I have to manually sync to get my Gmail. Doesnt show up automatically, I go to gmail then hit refresh and my mail pops up.

Not a major problem, but just in case I wasnt the only one.
[G1 Android Development] tricky76:
The entire Synchronization option from the Settings menu is missing. You are not the only one.
[G1 Android Development] CmraLvr2:
I 2nd this. Thank You.
[G1 Android Development] big nu:
@Wes is this next release gonna be your "X" build that you mention

last week, or is "11" building up to the "X"?
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
+1 here =P

Fixed that - just waiting for a few more pushes from cy's git

While waiting there, I am still working on my new kernel to get it bug free and beautiful
[G1 Android Development] RavenII:
HAHAHA!...That's awesome, I didn't even notice the Sync options were gone...
[G1 Android Development] ccriffman:
I have loaded it a re-loaded it and mine syncs flawlessly every time....
[G1 Android Development] eawooten:
So,is there some temp fix we can use for the time being or is the next release that close to conpletion?

BTW, i have was raking my brain to figure out how i botched my gmail settings...lol...

I was convinced taskiller's new autokill feature to blame
[G1 Android Development] zeppelin481:
Use the power control widget to turn the sync on/off as a temp fix. Honestly, I use the widget anyway, so it didn't matter to me at all. Wes will have it fixed in the next build...
[G1 Android Development] eawooten:
I had it on acccording to the widget settings, but it still wasn't notifying me of new emails. I toggled it off then back on anyway to see if that helps any, just in case that was what you meant to do.

EDIT: Still not getting any push updates. No big deal, I'll just wait for new build.
[G1 Android Development] hstar89:
web browser

I wonder if it possible 2 make web browser to load web pages a lil faster. To me it feel it slow compare with new fones that r out. I don't understand if I'm using wifi why it feel 3G too me.. I know my ping time for wifi connection will be much lower compare to tmobile 3G.
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
lol sigh.... tomorrow - done with kernel at least!
[G1 Android Development] pdudek:
Hope you can include more video codecs like in eklair its just an example.

I can go on ****hub and can watch all videos but in youp*** i cant.

In android 2.0 you can watch in youp***videos :P :P
[G1 Android Development] thierrz:
You can take a girlfriend instead of watching that:cool:
[G1 Android Development] crypysmoker:
..... Gota be a child..

So you want him to do extra work because your a freak and want Pron on your phone? seriously? If you need it on your phone.. dude, youve got a serious disorder and need help.
[G1 Android Development] njb42:
Wes, I just wanted to say thanks. I have 10.2 on my phone and it's terrific: stable and very responsive. I can't wait to see what you cook up next. Great work!
[G1 Android Development] Wolfyy7:
Who knew but WG!?
[G1 Android Development] david1171:
lmao at explicit sites on the phone. even if he is a "child" bet you wish you had a phone with explicit site capabilities when you were "child" age.
[G1 Android Development] obry:
Thank you for an amazing ROM - been getting better and better with each release. I have all my friends with myTouch/Dreams on it (coming from stock TMO roms) and everybody has been like "wtf" -my phones is so fast now and looks 10 x better...

A word of advice - most people seem to really like the Android 2.0 v1.2 Launcher theme with MetaMorph. The black/Hero launcher looks out of place with the silver bar at top but even when I put a black bar for a friend he still liked my Android 2.0 looking phone (with the new Power Control and Weather widgets and 2.0 style launcher).

I have a quick question for you about userinit.sh and user.conf. CM used to put those in /system/sd - you seem to use /system more for some stuff where I would typically find in /system/sd on CM - so where should I put my custom userinit.sh and user.conf files to fine tune my 3g speeds and tweak CC/Swap.

Also what is your recommendation as to what works best with your rom. On CM, I only used 96MB linux-swap with no CC/Backing Swap. What works best for your ROM - just linux-swap or CC or CC w/ Backing Swap?

Thank you! Wanted to send you guys $20 donation for the holidays but ran out before I could. Next paycheck I will make my first donation - you and Steve (Cyan) should work for Google...
[G1 Android Development] gwydionwaters:
the files are still in system/sd. make sure to install the compcache update
[G1 Android Development] ccriffman:
Don't sweat it wes- I see you went home sick today- take care of yourself or you can't take care of anything or anybody else....
[G1 Android Development] pdudek:
@crypysmoker = stuffy guy

And im a child 16 and half years old I have fun on living on this earth.

I just asked for mor codecs ;)

I have a girlfriend and im not a freak :) Whats bad on p*** ?

I just saw that my friend has got an iphone he have million apps in appstore (not interest's me ) , multitouch (not interests me) and and I think the little things like

can watch videos of each sites (with a new video playe like coreplay in windows mobile )

I did not found a good example for codecs so i used this example.
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Ok finishing up Build Y (preview to build X)

Did tons more changes to the kernel - check it out at http://github.com/wesgarner

Many speed increases after lots of testing including the system cache will not be on the cache partition since it's never used

This should help people who don't like losing the space plus the cache partition worked faster in testing (prob because the data partition is used so frequently compared to cache never being used)

Bout to flash my BETA now and see if I screwed up my phone or not lol

Shoot me a tweet if you have any q's @wesgarner
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
It will use Danger SPL though? That would be a good idea, to use that space for something useful.
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Too many complaints =/

But I am making use of the cache partition instead
[G1 Android Development] N3xt2N0N3:
Are you still basing your roms off cyanogen's releases? If so will it be CM 4.2.11.1?
[G1 Android Development] ytj87:
My experience has been this... speed was awesome up till 8.2ish. From 9 on speed has been going down. The last pre-11 was unacceptable to me. Flashed back to 8.2 (no wipe) and it's blistering again.

Moral of the story is this... give 8 or 8.2 a try if you're not happy with the speed of 9+.

Wes, take it easy on feeling the need to update on the progress of your updates. I'm concerned you're burning yourself out feverishly working to appease a mob out here. I'm happy with updates once a week (or less often). Take your time, enjoy the tinkering, and I for one will be happy with whatever your sched is.

Thanks.
[G1 Android Development] theMAGNUM:
I agree, I'm just happy you do this as often as you can. Keep up the great work!---whenever you can.
[G1 Android Development] jamezelle:
yea you do bust out udates rather quick, just dont get burnt out bro. great donut build!!! :)
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Both Wes and Cyan go hard on these ROMs. It seems like every other day these guys have a new treat for us and sadly, it seems they don't get as much respect and credit for busting their asses the way they do.
[G1 Android Development] carnegie0107:
+1

You and Cyan are both awesome devs, bringing amazing features we never thought we would see on our G1s when we bought them. Please, take your time, and enjoy the fun of hacking. It will be a heartbreaking day if either of you decides to retire from ROM cooking. I know it was hard to accept for me when JesusFreke quit the scene, though I was already hooked on CyanogenMod at that point..... But I wax nostalgic. The point is, have fun! And we all owe you a ton. Let's get the donations rolling for this guy!
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
You know it would be better if the devs of the same firmware(1.6) or (2.0) or (2.1) just worked together instead of releasing all these seprate roms and such....That would help get more bugs out and even better roms then 1 0r 2 people working on a rom...

-Best regards Ace
[G1 Android Development] inuyasha84:
I'm not finding anymore the options to set synchronization options for gmail, address book and calendar... I'm on 10.2. Do you know what may have happened?
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
Yes it was taken out...He's working on a Build X,Y, or Z well which ever it is he's fixing the bugs and making a new kernel of his own.
[G1 Android Development] itzmotto:
i can't wait till 11 drops fastest rom i have run into!!
[G1 Android Development] alongenemylines:
I'll disagree. There's never only 1 right way to do things. Competition drives innovation.
[G1 Android Development] Jamdat33:
So true... People always want to outdo their competitor. With everyone on one ROM there would be on variety...
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
it was my bad - I think I am going to have to torture people to fix it
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
Thanks for the support!
[G1 Android Development] haozheng91:
Hi WG, I have been following your rom for a while now, and indeed, this is the best rom so far. thanks for all the great work.

but now.. I have a question..

since I am using the HTC Magic 32A from the Canada Rogers, and this rom is for 32B...I need a 32A port to run it..

previously you base your rom on cm mod, so I was able to use bcrook's 32A port for cm mod, and it all runs well.

but now, if you are using a different kernel to cm's rom, so..how can I make it run on my 32A? or can I still use bcrook's 32A port?
[G1 Android Development] justanothercrowd:
Hey Wes are you actually running make for these ROM's from Cy's source???

Any who glad to see some new faces around :) Have fun folks!
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
Nice to see you easing back into the devving JAC, we all missed you
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
yup it's git
[G1 Android Development] jf4888:
Great job dev like it..

But i also made a note to self

*Dont run a rom with zipalign at boot when you have 150+ apps on your ext filesystem*

Took me about a whole hour to get at home screen
[G1 Android Development] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
I know you are still working on the ROM, but I just wanted to double check, build y will no longer require the SPL I said I would not mention again. That means I will be able to flash straight from build 9 that I am using now right, no wipe?
[G1 Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Build 10, Build X, Build Y...this is getting a little ridiculous. Just let use know when have another ROM out to test, not when you PLAN on having another release.

You've been saying "somethings coming" for quite a while, but all thats been changed is title modifications to the post.

Not that I dont appreciate your work, its just that its becoming "vaporware" quite quickly.
[G1 Android Development] wesgarner:
well switch to CM and ignore this thread lol
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
You gotta remember people have lives and things happen so..His life is not about doing this, you should be happy he takes time out to help out people like you.
[G1 Android Development] Joe333x:
really? Why dont you let us know when you have a ROM out to test. At least you know that he is working on a an update, many devs you dont have a clue what their doing until they post the release, now I can see why some dev are like that, because of people like you.
[G1 Android Development] shagge68:
Well put! It seems by looking into this guy's post history he doesn't contribute to much of anything besides bug reporting and griping at least recently that is.

It confuses me to how so many people can gripe so much about someone giving them something for free.

Be respectful people!