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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
Not working on Sprint Touch Pro

Installs with no errors, but upon launch, sometimes I get only parts of a map of Europe (sometimes a full-screen view of the same map), saying No Fix in the upper left corner, which doesn't change after 5-10 minutes in full view of the sky. Unresponsive to any screen taps/swipes and button presses, so not sure how I'm supposed to bring up the menu to show the onscreen controls, etc. Also unable to switch back to the app once I go back to my Home Manila Tab and try to open Task Manager or other app. Internal GPS works fine under Windows Managed settings with GMM and other apps, but not with OMM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PMDColeslaw:
Freezes on 1st run after installation for me too (CDMA Diamond)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] -Jonny-:
I don't get any futher than being asked where the storage card is.

However, I have noticed that in its cache it has downloaded the map of UK.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] buggs1a:
I just installed this on my vzw tp2. it opened first time asking where its at. I installed tp storage card. well this app did nothing when I clicked on the to option storage card. I tried the other 2 and still nothing happened. I had to manually turn off my phone.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheRem:
i can't wait... thanks Cipher! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] buggs1a:
could we please have a bug fix only release till all the bugs are fixed before any new features?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
At the moment I have no idea why it is hanging or crashing on some phones. It runs well on my HTC Wizard with WinMo 6.5 build 23053 and on HTC Diamond with WinMo 6.1. And it runs well on all emulators provided by microsoft's SDK for WinMo 6/6.5.

@the people, where it crashes with an error message: please post the contents of that error message, so I can see at least the stack trace.

@the others:

I uploaded a new version, where I made the settings to use GPS or GSM locationing optional. If the application hangs you can edit the ommconfig.xml in the root "/" of your device as follows:

<gsm>1</gsm> means, that GSM will be used

<gsm></gsm> means, that GSM is deactivated

same applies to <gps>

By default the application starts with both disabled, if those settings are not defined.

Maybe this way we can narrow down the cause for hangs.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Dtrieb:
Here some new ideas:

Make an update function

If you move, change the Pin to a car or etc.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gFreshman:
Excellent APP, thanx. Working flawlessly on my Touch Elfin WM6.1 with BT GPS.

Ideas for future development:

self-update (AppToDate?)

ability to update OSM tiles. Automatic checking for new tile version when they are viewed would be great (and the setting to turn checking off), but manual context menu option to update visible tiles would do the job as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raiderfan247365:
Samsung Intrepid and OMM

instillation on samsung intrepid unsuccessful? and ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
how does the installation fail? any errors?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] citrix80:
does this need data connection ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Yes, an internet connection is needed to download the map tiles.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] citrix80:
so it is like google maps? it cannot be used without data connection? or only when downloading maps>?

does it have voice, turn by turn?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
actually it can be used without data connection, if you download the tiles before on your desktop with a program like http://www.amberhome.de/pdatm_download.html

Maybe I will release an offline tile downloader in the future.

Not yet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ricarp:
hello Cipher the program simply closes it does not give any message...

Diamond 2

WM 6.5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] citrix80:
this is exactly same like google maps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
It seems that the uninstaller does not remove the \ommconfig.xml file and new versions do not overwrite a file that is leftover from a previous installation. When I went to try out the gsm and gps settings, this file was reporting my version as v1.0.3634.9654, apparently left over from an earlier installation.

After running the new version with the default settings the first time, it freezes after asking me for my Storage Card location. The next time, it freezes on the OMM splash screen. Previously it would at least get to the point of trying to download some of the tiles before freezing, necessitating a soft-reset.

Editing the ommconfig.xml file and trying all 4 combinations of gsm and gps settings made no difference, with OMM freezing on the splash screen each and every time.

:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Could you try the attached Debug version and post the contents of the \ommdebug.txt file afterwards, please?

EDIT: Debug version updated...see later posts...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] -Jonny-:
Still cannot get version on page 1 to work.

However, debug version is working fine!

Attached is the debug log.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ricarp:
Hello Cipher, the debug version works well it didn't close!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ricarp:
i think it closes when I was triying to zoom in, but after doing it (zooming in) with the debug version, everything works well!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
thanks for the feedback on the debug version.

I made an updated Debug version, which is close to be the next release version if it works correctly.

Please try this debug version and post your "/ommdebug.csv" files.

I hope I nailed the bugs, now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
Debug version works fine!? Log file is attached...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] del4:
First debug version worked better and the latest one better yet! Definitely moving in the right direction. My CSV file is attached...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dannyzen:
when uninstalling is the application's default configuration for where to store files removed?

I mistakenly chose storage card and now cannot change it to internal storage.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
the configuration file stays on the phone. so you have to delete it yourself if you want to set another place for saving the map.

this will be changed in the next release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jake Bullit:
It would be nice to configure GPS ports and baud rates.;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
You can do that in your GPS Settings in Windows Mobile Settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
I have tried this one on my HD2 and now it working nicely, no freeze or unexpected programm stop like before.

Allthough the HD2 is connected to my laptop and has therefore Internet connection via the laptop OMM is still establishing a mobile network connection.

Another more basic comment:

- maybe could add a feature to limit the space on the storage card of give a warning when a certain level is reached

- off line mode: Add a warning (not a disturbing dialog), mabye just a "red light" that the requested tile is not located inside the cahce storage

Please find enclosed my log file

Great APP with a huge potential!

Best regards

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
ok, thanks for the debugging. it really seems, that i fixed the most annoying bugs. i released a new version on the first page.

@HD2 users: do you notice any difference in performance when dragging the map with controls on/off ? and how about with controls on and information on?

DrawAlpha seems to be quite slow on my devices. maybe I'll write an optimized routine to see if it helps to speed up the dragging with controls on.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Iguana775:
how do you use that? I cant find a gpx file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dannyzen:
Great, where / what file is it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
the file is in the root of your device: "\ommconfig.xml".

if you already downloaded and installed the latest release, then on first start this file is being moved to the application folder. just delete it there, so you can choose the storage folder again.

from now on, with every new release you will lose your settings, because the ommconfig.xml will be uninstalled as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
i admit, it's a bit complicated. you don't need a gpx file, just proceed to the next tab and enter the min and max longitude, latitude values. but be careful -> this may result in a long download of many tiles....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Iguana775:
yea, I finally figured it out.

too bad you couldnt just select a state or a city.

btw, how can I put the speed in MPH and not KPH?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
MPH is not implemented yet. will be in next release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dorigny:
and WVGA res is possible ? for my HD2 =)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
download, install and find out by yourself. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jimbaou:
Hello,

Very Good software, simple and smart. Congratulations.

I installed it on my HTC HD. It works fine, except that when I try to download the tiles in advance (by exploring, with the finger, the area I want to download), the software often ends prematuraly without any message.

Have you planned a tool to pre-download a complete area ? The exploring method takes time, especially if I want to download several resolutions, and is not very reliable so far.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Hi, thanks for the feedback. could you please install the debug version (posted one page earlier) and explore the map with it until the program crashes? after that just post the \ommdebug.csv file...

i am going to write a tool to pre-download the tiles...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jimbaou:
I tried the debug version and it did not crash.

I'll try the basic version again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
I am making the same experience:

Debug version is not crashing

Even the latest non-debug version is terminating wothout any notice - smae as before on my HD2

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
wow, this is really strange because there is nothing changed in the non-debug version except for the debug-logging.

I'll look over the code again, maybe I overlooked something.

EDIT: could you please upload the ommdebug.csv after heavy testing anyway? because it's possible that an exception was caught in the debug version, therefore it didn't make the program to stop. but it should be logged.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
I will retest.

With the debug version I was "going east" from Europe to China and had no problems (zoomed in and out a little bit). But from previous runs I had allready a number or "tiles" in the cache.

Than after installing the last non debug version I was "going west" from Europe over the Atlantik to US. But the problem was I never "arrived" to the US somewhere over the Atlantik the program was closing without any notice.

This was the 1st time that I was going west and had therefore nearly none tiles in the cache.

The HD2 was connected to my laptop and the laptop had the internet connection.

With this version the HD was using the internet via the laptop I have not seen that the HD was establishing a seperate 3G or 2G connection

Hope that this more detailed description could help

Could it be a timing problem that the program tried to access tiles which are not totaly downloaded yet into the cache?

Best regards,

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] maff90:
could you make this support openpistemap.org aswell and maybe opencyclemap aswell then this would be great
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
yes, this is actually what I suspect, too. i hope i find some time on christmas to fix this issue.

thanks for the hint. i will consider that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jake Bullit:
Sorry can only use GPS with GPSgate so need to be able to configure individual port/baud rate.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rupro:
Cannot fix GPS on Asus A696

I have several programs that connect and fix to the GPS just fine. However, OMM cannot fix GPS and always shows 0/0 sattelites, even under sunny open skies. Any suggestions?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raphyrod:
omm program,gps

i have a htc snap running wm 6.5.i downloaded the cab and install no problems.when i click on the icon to open mobile maps,it says "an unexpected error has occurred in omm.exe. select quit and then restart this program ,or select details for more info. messege text unavailable.resource file'microsoft.virtualbasic resources' not found." any help would be appreciated.i cant get copilot live 8 to work either.it will not even look for gps signal.when i go to settings,search for signal,it does not even look for the gps.i emailed the company,with no response yet.thanks for help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phil82de:
Could you pleaee support AppToDate, so that everybody can use the newest update??

http://www.modaco.com/content/apptodate/267789/developers-how-to-include-apptodate-support-advanced/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] richardsoffice:
runs well on my HTC Diamond Touch

Installed faultlessly and runs well on my HTC Diamond Touch. :)

I think I have the same requirement as Citrix80 (Message 78) that is when I will most want to use OpenMobileMaps is while on foot in a part of the world where using my phones Data Connection to load maps simultaneously as I am moving would be very costly for me. But this is not a problem, as before leaving home using just OpenMobileMaps I can load via WiFi all the map resolutions I need for the area of my forthcoming journey, and then I can turn my phones data option off while overseas.

The only problem I have with my HTC Diamond is if I’m walking down a city centre street with tall buildings either side it has difficulty getting a GPS fix, and I had hoped to get a fix using OpenMobileMaps option “Allow GSM Location” with my cellphone connection on but my Data connection off, but this appears not to be the case? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phil82de:
I updated to v1.0.3640.29639 before a week or two. Since that the program closes itself after a while!

PS: here is my ommdebug.csv of the newest debug-verson (9.1.2010).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scheppi:
openseamap server integration

Hey,

as the openstreetmap server should be of th same communication like the one from openseamap.org it should be configurable, which server the software accesses.

could anybody verify which server / port details OMM needs and where it can be set up ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Thanks for the hint. I will consider that option to change the server.

Right now I am very busy learning for my final exams so I am not able to work on OMM for a few weeks from now.

Sorry for the delay...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
No excuses please ... :D

I was always told that students have the easy life:

sex, drugs and rock´n roll :cool:

Sorry I could not resist making this comment :)

All the best for your exams!!!!

Best regards

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scheppi:
Hey Cipher,

no worries. I am patient :-D

Anyway I can leave feedback, that OMM works fine on my Samsung Omnia II WVGA (480x800). I had only some trouble loading tiles via ActiveSync, though it works fine via WLAN (did not try UMTS, yet).

Scrolling speed is impressive.

Let me motivate you: If you add a place-search function it will substitute google maps on my mobile. another gimmicks could be nice, but are not necessary:

- using G-Sensor to rotate the screen

- using auto-zoom depending on speed

- night-view with inverted colors

- loading GPX Files to add some Geocaching functionality

- disable standby by Option to enable quick car-navigation

thats all for the moment - just in case you have no more ideas :-D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
I found little time to add a new feature for testing!

Try out the latest version from the first page! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
Are there also maps for mexico available?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MusikMonk:
Been messing around with your application for a while and I really like it.

It's not of much use to me (the maps available for my country aren't that detailed, I'm planning to try and contribute once I'm free) but I like your idea.

I'm about to download the new version but I don't know when I'll have the chance to try it. I'm also in the middle of university finals...

Keep up the great work and good luck on your exams!

If it's on OpenStreetMap.org then it's available on this app. That's were it gets the maps from.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vpreHoose:
New menu version

Great work on the app, I am using it regularly.

I'm using it on an HTC HD (sadly not the HD2) and I much prefer the old menu structures. The new one fills the screen and is very inconvenient. I regularly toggle the controls and GPS status on and off and it is much more convenient to do that simply by tapping and holding with the context menu directly. Opening a new window that fills the screen in order to select checkboxes is a (big) step backwards in usability.

One feature request would be a command to manually refresh the maps. I live in an area that has poor coverage and frequent updates to the base maps. Also some maps have failed to download completely, even after repeated restarts and pan and zoom attempts I have just gray squares at certain zoom levels. Short of deleting the entire osmcache folder how do I manually refresh a map at a certain zoom level? A command or button that would re-fetch the current view would be most appreciated.

Best of luck for your exams too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Thanks for the very good feedback on the latest changes.

In the next version I'll put the GPS status on/off and Controls on/off back to the context menu. But I think the other settings can stay in the new window, cause otherwise the context menu will have too many items and this would also affect usability.

Refreshing the actually visible maps manually will be possible, too. And I'm considering an automatic update of tiles when a new version is available.

stay tuned...i will have some free time at the end of february...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ricarp:
Hello Cipher, I installed the last version, But it closes itself againg, i returned back to the 1.0.3640.29639 that works well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
@loox-user:

thanks for the feedback.

and thank you for the hints on the tile downloaders. i will think about your further suggestions. but I'm afraid an offline search function would be very difficult to implement if I won't get the data. I doubt that I can download data from OSM reduced to the detail level of the tile. it'll be rather everything or nothing. and everything could mean some gigs...look at the size of tomtom maps...

on the other hand, OSM's database is still quite incomplete for many countries and therefore the search function is almost useless there. even in my well covered city i sometimes get very strange results. i'm still not sure whether it's a bug in my calculations or the search query or OSM itself. but I didn't have the time to track it down either.

so it all has to wait... ;)

oh, and yes..you can use the screenshots. I don't claim any copyrights for them. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] loox-user:
Hey Cipher,

getting data for a specific area from the OSM database actually isn't too difficult. There is an API that allows to fetch data quite easily

(take a look for API or XAPI in the OpenStreetMap-Wiki).

If you would like to get the whole data for specific area the following gives you a data.osm file with the data in OSM xml-format:

View attachment 283388

(please click to see the address)

where the numbers define left, bottom, right and top longitude and latitude values of the bounding box. To get only specific data from the database, like e.g. all banks in a specific area you can use something like:

View attachment 283389

(please click to see the address)

This data may be used to for offline search functionality restricted to some special things like e.g. cities or towns. Other data like points of interests may be used to show e.g. the position of banks close to your position. Take a look at e.g.

View attachment 283390

(please click to see the address)

where you can augment POIs on the map. Wouldn't it be cool to have such a functionality in your app?

oh, and thanks for your authorization to use your screenshots - I just added them to the OpenStreetMap-Wiki...

P.S.: I am not yet allowed to post links. Therefore they are included as images ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Hi loox-user!

Thanks for the links. I'll see what I can do to integrate them.

Btw. I created an official homepage for OpenMobileMaps where the latest cab can be downloaded from now on.

Though, this thread here will still remain the main discussion thread for OpenMobileMaps.

The official homepage is located at: http://omm.mine.nu
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] apirec:
Man, this is about the coolest app I've ever installed on my phone!!

However, it's just a toy for me. What I need would be a tracker for cell ids (since I don't have a gps reciever), so I can record my cycling tours.

Can you implement this? I'd donate for that!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
this is indeed possible. but you have to be aware, that you will need an internet connection to use cell ids for tracking. OMM needs to lookup the geocodes for cell ids online.

the next thing to consider is: cell ids are not very accurate for tracking. you will only get a track from cell tower to cell tower your phone was logged in on your cycle tour. you will not be able to see your exact track.

i would recommend to invest about $30-$40 into a bluetooth gps receiver.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] apirec:
I did some research about that some time ago. Unfortunately, my .NET-coding-skills are quite low. If you only want to record tracks, you can simply take a sample every x seconds and save it in e.g. a textfile. When you go online again, you can resolve them and thus making them visible in the map view. Although I have to admit that this track thing would be a whole new feature for you app.

I'd like to stick to my current phone for several reasons (wenn du die wissen willst, schreib mir).

BTW.: If you're onroad outside a city, you don't need a high resolution for tracking, since there aren't much roads in a gsm-cell and you know you have a smooth track.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
Right now I'm collecting new ideas for future development. And tracking is definitely a good candidate. ;)

and this is exactly the problem with tracking cell ids. look at the picture below. the brown track is your original cycle path. and the green line is what the tracked route would look like if only the cell ids would be tracked.

if this vague track would suffice your needs then so be it. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] apirec:
As you can see in your sketch, there are no other roads in that area, so a snap-to-grid-operation would be quite accurate! :D

Of course, this would only work with road-bound movement. And I think with no parallel roads nearer than a couple of hundred meters it'll work pretty good, due to the constraints given by the rest of the track.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cipher:
well, i've been quite optimistic in my drawing. but imagine that: in many off-road areas one cell tower can cover up to severel kilometers. if your cycle track is in this area, or you cycle severel kilometers around one cell tower then the only thing you get is just one cell tower location. how would you approximate in this case?

from the tracker point-of-view you just did not move. :/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] apirec:
I guess that's just the worst case. I'd say you have at least two towers most of the time PLUS roads don't always make a perfect circle around one tower. I believe (hope?) that it would work "in the field".

If you give me a rough test-app, I will ride through lesser populated areas, so we know for sure what we are talking about.