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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
As you said, read the manual first, system.img is not for FAT32 or EXT2, the real problem is that the guy forgot to press the dpad to start the installer, so android cannot find the system when it tries to start.

@lighthawk: Your sd card setup looks fine, you just have to watch for the 'press dpad for installer' line, and press the dpad centre button until the installer appears, if you are installing to ext2 make sure you select the correct options on the top of the installer menu, and once you finish installing, choose 'quit' to continue booting android, good luck :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anagarika:
I press but no installer pop up. :(

Same setup as Lighthawk, but initrd.gz instead of initrd.tar, extracted from latest HARET repository ..

When I press center DPAD when prompted, it shows

^@sh: 2: unknown operand
losesetup: /dev/block/loop1: No such file or directory
Failed
Failed to reach system.img on SD card

Basically pressing DPAD result in ^@
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
^@ is what you should see when pressing dpad, you must press and hold dpad until the installer menu appears, if you press any other key, or let go before the menu shows it will not work.

However looking at the errors it looks like something else may be going on, if you have partitioned the sd card it's possible that this is causing problems, the FAT32 must be the first partition on the card.

Try with another sd card if possible, single fat32 partition, see if that works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] richardcheung:
Accessing menu using haret

thank you for asking. actually im using the one that is bundled in baseline build 02202010 haretinstall.zip on sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/. do you have any idea how to get this to work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anagarika:
Thanks for helping. I didn't partition the SD. As mentioned on earlier post, I format FAT32 using Windows XP PC and using older Poly's build it works fine ( made backup, so I simply put them back, run HARET and it boots ok) Using this 2.1g I press until I'm tired (how long it should be?? ) and it never pops the installer. Same SD card, formatted and changed the files.

Additional info:

Am flashing new WM6.5.3 ROM, and during which I flash OEM first. Let the OEM boot and once running, tried again 2.1g. Same result.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] LightHawk:
I didn't mention it in my first post but my first attempt was with an unpartitioned sd card which was FAT32, with the same files as I have now.

But when I got to the phase when it prints 'press dpad',

I couldn't get the menu to come up. Tried almost every button I could find referenced in the forums (dpad center, top left, top right, camera...)

and each one I tried once just as the linux starts to boot and once just as the press dpad line appeared.

None of them worked,

then i thought maybe I need to partition the SDCARD but that doesn't seem to help -

(now I understand that's because I don't have a system.img because I didn't install the system)

It also seems like anagarika has the same problem as me =)

Thanks for trying to help us
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anagarika:
Does it mean we have to grab any system.img? It's not on the FAQ. IIRC, previously in Jan 2010 beta version, this is needed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shpibrazz:
Dude,thank you! I managed to do everything i needed...i did what you suggested and turned off any network activity,then i managed to sync google account. I have one question...which app is the best for using GPS navigation on Google android? Thanks in advance!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
you need this one, not the bundled one!

http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/2010-02-20/initrd.gz/download
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wizardPC:
I have been struggling with bluetooth all freaking day. I downloaded the KAISIMG-PANEL2-320-TILT-ECLAIR.NBH dated March 19 for my tilt from the polymod @ ponack repository. I downloaded the [Eclair polymod 2.1g Dark-Themed for SD install or NAND ]. Ran the NAND install, according to

Bluetooth wasnt working, so I started to go through this 3000+ post. I saw that polyrhythmic had told someone:

So, going back to the original post, I find the instructions for installing the BT Update (the files I downloaded were updated after these instructions, so I had originally assumed the update was included):

The problem is, there is no polymod_2.1g-BT_Update.zip at that URL. There are 2 folders of NBHs, a zImage file, and a wlan.ko file.

So how do I get bluetooth to work? Is the BT_update located somewhere else that I can download it according to the instructions? Can I somehow manually update the wlan.ko file I've already installed?

Where am I screwing up?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
Here you go. I haver a copy on my harddrive
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tonyc0642:
Ok, so I haven't installed anything weird lately, just a couple live wallpapers from the market. Then all of a sudden today, voice search started force closing over and over even though I never opened it.

I hit force close and the FC window pops up again and again. Taskiller didn't work, it's not even listed as running. Running Services has it listed, and I can stop it, but then as soon as I leave the application

settings page it starts force closing again. It's making my phone unusable. I don't know what else I can do. I really don't want to reinstall Android. Anyone got any idea wtf is wrong here?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Areinu:
@tonyc0642 Well, most hardcore solution would be to just remove voice search. Unfortunately as far as I know it means losing onscreen keyboard as well. I don't use either so I just got rid of it. Of course that can lead to some other unstable behaviors, bugs, whatever. Mine android seems to go stable though.

You will have to either be able to use terminal, which can be hard with constant force closes, or adb, which you probably aren't able to use with kaiser.

If you're ready, sane, desperate, didn't find another solution and can use terminal you can enter

su
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblk3 /system
cp /system/app/VoiceSearchWithKeyboard.apk /sdcard/backup/VoiceSearchWithKeyboard.apk
rm /system/app/VoiceSearchWithKeyboard.apk
mount -o remount,r -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblk3 /system

3rd line is optional. Do it if you want to backup the VoiceSearch. 5th line isn't really necessary as I think rebooting phone will do it for you anyway. After entering all lines you want reboot phone and there won't be VoiceSearch that could close.

Still, it's hardcore solution. Otherwise you might want to try uninstalling all the apps you installed recently. I suggest using some uninstaller app from market, so you won't have to work with settings. Maybe one of those Live wallpapers is breaking stuff? You never know.

@shpibrazz: Glad it helped :) For now except for using GPStest I didn't do anything with GPS though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wizardPC:
THANK YOU! BT is working now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tarekk9:
it's very good ROM,

but it's slow than 1.6, no speaker sound, few of programs hang,

how can i fix it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
thanks! Voicesearch was really annoying to me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ady2fast:
I installed this Android, but my phone remained locked in the boot loader.What can I do?I have no Windows or Android, and I need this phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
If you are on multi-coor screen with USB at bottom, then you can still recover.

Just connect to PC and install a windows load.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ady2fast:
Unfortunately I did not that picture.Stuck on Android.I need something to release Android and let me install Windows. Something to erase all Android partition. Help ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
Take battery out press, put it back in, then hold camera button while powering on. It should take you to tri-color screen.

To erase android, You have to use windows installer.

I use this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=496555
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ady2fast:
I'll try right now.I started the download and let you know.Yet I wonder ,how that will work if Active Sync is grey?How do I install Windows?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ady2fast:
It worked! Huttonjd thanks! Thank you!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tarekk9:
how can i download this file "polymod_2.1g-BT_Update.zip"

i can't find it

because when i configure bluetooth headset sound not work in device

please help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
Here you go
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tarekk9:
than you very much but it still mute mobile sound when i connect blueteeth headset
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
Yeah. BT on poly 2.1g is not very good, why I went back to 1.6.

Which .NBH are you using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tonyc0642:
Well I got anxious about it and just reinstalled Android and loaded my latest backup, and it hasn't done it since. If it does it again, I'll try uninstalling the live wallpapers first. I have a terminal on my phone so I'll try that if nothing else works. But like I said it hasn't happened again since the reinstall/restore. Must have just had a corrupted file or something. Anyway, thanks for the reply.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anagarika:
I tried with this .. still never got the installer although I hold down the DPAD center button

Is there anything else I should try?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vincio3:
my firs Eclair...

Hi, many thanks for this build. I've flashed on my Polaris 200 (NAND mode) and it runs fast and smooth. The few issues I hope will be solved soon with next release (camera is missing a lot!) Wich Radio do you sugest me? I'm using 1.64.08.21...

I'm a newbe with Android, so just gimme a few days to learn how it works. By now it looks great on this "old" device...

I've a DIAMOND too, what about Eclair on it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
only hold the dpad down with one press after seeing the message?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
I had a toch pro for a few weeks, android runs only a few minutes (40) on it (battery issues)=>forget it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tarekk9:
thanks for your reply

i'm use kaisimg-panel2-320-08-04-10.nbh and radio 1.71.09.01

next thing when i press on phone pad it's write numbers only not get names from contact like "magic"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
Since I removed this and another .apk my phone is really fast using android.

I'll think I remove more .apk packages.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tarekk9:
how can i upgrade phone dialer to use contact by calling
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Install Dialer One from Market.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] X46X:
Hi guys. I have a problem. When my device "go sleep" and after i want wake up him. Kaiser "not rsponding" I try all buttons but nothing. I must do a soft resset. Why? Any help? Please

PS.:Sorry for my English
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] byron0318:
just press the power button
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] X46X:
Oh no, I said: I try all buttons. Seriously please :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fritzpas:
Hi,

thanks for this create work.

I have done some tests.

First: With the latest kernel from dzo bluetooth works nearly perfect. Have testet it in my BMW, the coupling, telephone book, and make calls works perfect. There is only one thing, I have stored the contact mobile number in the format +49 (xxxx) xxxxxx. The BMW Telephone book syncs create, but leaves the leading plus so I can't make direkt calls and have to dial with the phone it selfs. Anybody have the same problem?

Second: The setting for the android keyboard are twice under the setting.

Third: Win 7 nor Win XP can't access the storage card do I need a driver or is it currently not working in Eclair?

Kind regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fritzpas:
I had the same symptom today. The reason was no freeze just the battery was empty in my case :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jasonsmr:
hey, thanks for this updated linux img and installation guide, everything except camera works wonderfully with my HTC Branded ATT kaiser/TitanII.

~I may have a interest to try and debug this system on my own any suggestions, or should I just start fresh and learn the linux embedded tools that works with these phones?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anagarika:
I must be crazy or my device is :) Yes, that's exactly what I did. The same SD, when loaded with previous Poly's beta Eclair build works well. That older version doesn't use this installer and have a totally different way of invoking the install first time. But it worked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
Anyone heard something about polyrhythmic? We all miss you here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vincio3:
What about Bluetooth? It seems not even setting ON... I cannot test it if it doesn't goes ON! :-)

I'm impressed about how fast and smooth this rom runs...awesome! I filled the home with gadget, links and apps and it doesn't slow down: amazing!

ANDROID RULES!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xipo.xp:
I want to know how do you take those screenshots in your post~because I tried 2 days to find apps or other way to take screenshots on my kaiser,polymod 2.1d,but no luck...could you reply me ?a solution or a link?I really appreciate that～3ks～
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hardik119:
The problem is you do reset(soft). Take the battery out and put it back and then start the phone.

please let us know if that worked or not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] meazo:
thank alot for this goog thread

ifased some problems hope to find solution for them

Astro is not working and said that it expired

calibrate screen, Dev tools>glaaxy, dev tools> grass, dev tools> water. is not working
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dude6595:
just update astro from the market....its free...the rest i dunno about
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] RizwanKhan:
when i do the install it keeps telling me can't open /sdcard/andboot/androidinstall.tar ... file or directory does not exist.

How can this be? i have the tar file in the andboot folder. i am flashing to nand; already have the nbh flashed. when i click on option 1: install system, this is the error i keep getting.

Possible corruption in sd card?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xPreSiDenT:
Did you format SDcard to Fat32?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] RizwanKhan:
yes i did

......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] miko10:
Hi,

I have tried this image as my first android and its really great. But I have one problem. When I connect to my home wifi, where WPA is used, I'm not able to connect to internet. When I ping Kaiser from my laptop, it says:

ping 192.168.1.105

PING 192.168.1.105 (192.168.1.105) 56(84) bytes of data.

64 bytes from 192.168.1.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1098 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=122 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.105: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=600 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.105: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=1083 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.105: icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=88.4 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.105: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=3.10 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.105: icmp_seq=17 ttl=64 time=3.19 ms

64 bytes from 192.168.1.105: icmp_seq=21 ttl=64 time=600 ms

From Kaiser I can't ping because terminal says I don't have permissions to create raw socket.

Is there any solution?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tukang PDA:
i just wanna ask, is it true that android system can only install apps in the device memory? because whenever i download apps from the market, it will be placed on the device. i dont see any apps data on my sd card. is that true?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tukang PDA:
i don't know if this will fix it, but why don't you try changing the wifi power level?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] miko10:
Thanks for advice, but can you tell me where I can do this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tukang PDA:
easy, just download this file and update it to your android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] miko10:
Thanks it helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bteljuice:
Learning about this
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] casoft:
Battery

Hi.

Im have a problem with the live battery. With android (boot by SD) the battery only live 6hours. Im try change the values in default but dont solve this problem.

Any have this problem? any solve this problem?

Im have a Kaiser Tytn II with a battery of 1359mAh

thanks for your help.

Ps: Thanks to all ECLAIR developers, is a excelent work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tukang PDA:
don't know if this will help but, why dont you try NAND? when you run system from sd card, it drains more energy from the battery. plus, maybe your battery is old.. i prefer to use the NAND or change the battery with a new one.. that's just my opinion..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anagarika:
I also did. But it keeps persistently not found the img.

Tried the same card loaded with Poly's BETA (working last time, made backup of the whole SD card) it still works.

Any other things I can try?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] attn1:
My Nexus One (stock rom at the moment) does not even have a menu option for reboot - just shutdown.

Perhaps the menu option on this rom for 'reboot' could be removed and then just call it a day.

I am looking forward to giving this a go on my old tilt soon!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mangrajalkin:
I love Android, but I am having some problems. I'm using HaRET to run polymod 2.1g on my Tilt (I understand that Tilt & Kaiser are the same thing?) The zImages for the bluetooth updates crash my HaRET, GPS won't work, and the only audio that works is the incoming voice in calls. I can hear the other end, but they can't hear me. I am at a bit of a loss as to where to start to get these issues resolved.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] reddragon72:
I''m with you on the voice calls issue. Still to this day they do not work. Shame cause this OS runs so smooth on my tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] casoft:
Swap partition

Today im make a swap partition into of my SD (512mb) because im runing Android from my SD, and modify the file inituser.conf to enable the swap but sinserely in no look my android more fast.

Any people had already made these changes? any comment?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wodomon:
run it on my polaris with HaRET. is there any way to sync it with HTC Sync or some to explore phone via PC?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hyperfly:
As I know- there no possibility to sync Polaris with PC in case when Android was started via haret :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lggyxx:
any chance of an update poly??? still waiting for camera and other fixes :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] piotrv:
Where is Poly ???????????

Is Poly still 'on holidays' or did he abandon this thread because of our silly and trivial questions :D

Haven't heard of him since April 6.... :confused: :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] manu33xtro:
I hope he's just on holiday and nothing more serious ;)

Like you I wait for some updates but especially the kernel which must evolve for Wifi and BT (mostly for Polaris users...). Thanks in advance to DZO :)

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shar1r:
I have no idea how to do that...but I definitely need the PolyMod update. I installed the KaiserDroid version - and none of the comm works. Any chance I can get that file from you?

:-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thesecondsfade:
I have 2 questions:

1. Can we somehow change the key mapping?

2. Can we somehow set it to wake up the device on ANY key press or if not, a different key other than Power?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jstrom23:
Vogue hangs on incoming call

I also have the xv6900 and was having the same problem. Also a disappointing deal-killer because this build is *phenomenal*. Troubleshooting suggested that it has to do with the phone coming out of sleep mode, since I could receive calls while the screen was on.

I updated to the latest zImage and then added some commands to default.txt. Cut and paste this...

set cmdline "ppp.nostart=0 mddi.width=240 mddi.height=320 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 hw3d.version=1 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 pm.sleep_mode=1 no_console_suspend"

...and see if it helps. I'm not experienced enough to know what exactly is going on, but I suspect that the panel_type change made the difference. I've been too busy enjoying Android on my Vogue to go back and troubleshoot.

Let me know if it fixes it for you so I can confirm that this is the solution.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] golfnz34me:
You were following almost the exact same tact as I was. I thought that it may have been due to the sleep mode=0, so I changed mine to sleep mode=3. It seemed to work better, but it still froze on occasional phone calls.

However, I never thought to try changing the panel_type setting: I know on the vogue-specific builds it automatically gets set to type 0, but it's possible that's not the case here since this is inherently a Kaiser build.

I don't get a ton of calls, so it will take me a few days to get a high degree of confidence in this fix. I will check back in next week.

Mike
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] remora9595:
Maybe try installing in nand. I've been running nand on my vogue for a couple months now and its been working pretty good.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WOLVERINEX24:
Can't get pandora

I intalled the eclair 2.1 nand and i cant find pandora anywhere in the marketplace...also i cant find the skyfire either....im using kaiser tilt...also how could i place all my apps on my sd card instead of using internal memory? thanks guys
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] attn1:
This isn't working, and is where I am stuck. NAND install.

edit: okay, formatted a different sdcard in Linux instead of Windows, got past that. Now it installs and loops back to the installer after about 4 minutes. Quit installer and let it sit at prompt, then it automagically completed the install and I got to first boot.

The key for me was getting the SD card formatted in Linux, since it's a Linux kernel using the SD card, I guess that part is important. For me anyway.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] monster4fun:
Wifi & 3G

Hi Guys,

just finished to install polymod 2.1g (SD) on my Kaiser, everything seems ok but I have some issue on connectivity.

I can connect to wifi network ( join and obtain dhcp address ) but not able to surf the web. Of course no restriction on wifi router, totally open / no security ( no good idea, I know ... ), and of course other devices (laptop) work ok.

Same problem on 3g network. I'm able to manage inbound / outbound calls but each time I try to surf the web with android browser, non way I can't connect to any site.

Any idea or post that I can refer to ?

Many thanks