yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I've got a tilt (so you may need to change the default.txt files to show at&t tilt=1 not =0); just to check (but I am sure you are doing this), the camera button has a 1/2 press and a full press; you need the full press. What I do is right afterthe Harnet bar is at the end, when the screen colors mess up and just before the scripts start running I press and hold the camera button hard (not letting go). I just timed it and it takes between 14 seconds to 1 minutebefore I got the menu to pop up.

Also make sure you are running the non-GPS default.txt file first. The default-gps.txt file will not go into the menu. You can only use that after you have installed the system and booted to Android.

@Poly; Thank you; that data.img worked. Reinstalled the system, did not clear the data and after about 6-7 minutes it loaded. BTY I love the Nexus one boot animation. This is the 1st time I have been able to get a NoMoRootFS build (any of them) to run. Again thank you

Also I was amazed that the data.img went from 158MB to the 158k zip file on that post; WOW that's zipping a file down to size :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dv84:
Yep i think that was what did it heh. Thnx a lot man =-] I will be playing with it on my way home from work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruddicks:
Hey

This is fantastic, love the look of it. FOr some reason I can not get it to call, text, data etc and no 2g or 3g connections. There is reception signal showing but that is it. I am probably being stupid! Using Kaiser (TYTNII) vodafone V1615, Windows 6.5 (jj's Rom WWE), 1.70.19.09. If this gets sorted there will definately be beer money!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
Giving it a shot on my tilt as well but I can't even get to the point where I need to press the camera button.... haret bar never gets to the end. status box says "found machine Kaiser" then when I press Run it says "go go go..."

but thats it. Locks up. and I have to reset device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
Good news everyone!

HW3D enabled-kernel thanks to dzo (& thanks to Dark-Side for compiling and making it available :))!!

polymod 2.1 alpha 2 update coming ASAP....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lupick:
Wow!!!!

L.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
What radio are you using in windows mobile? You may need to flash to 1.71...; I have a tilt and that radio always worked for me and kept HaRET from freezing at load (never got to the boot text screens)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruddicks:
DONE IT! Silly but needed to manually put in the APN. oops. If anyone else has that problem, I am sure they wont the settings are all found here:

copy and paste, I am not allowed to post it seems! .modmygphone.com/wiki/index.php/Carrier_APN_Settings#Vodafone_

Steve
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dark-Side:
I only compile a kernel :o

All credits to

dzo

;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zzoinks:
I booted this using the regular default.txt the first time. Signed in and can't find some apps (Accuweather, Anycut) in the market. I'm guessing this is because of the resolution. Worse, I booted using 320x480 and still can't see them. Seems that my Google account is now linked to the low resolution. Will try wiping my data and starting over using the higher resolution for my first sign in.

-Brett.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] CYDVicious:
nAND flash?

Any chance to get a

system.img for nAND as well as a

no-Root.nbh

Data.img?

~CYD
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
plz see above and OP
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nyunyu:
poly, your next update would spot OpenGL in it correct? So, is it possible to upgrade alpha 1 to alpha 2 in a breeze or do we need to reinstall everything again once alpha 2 comes out?

Can't wait to see OpenGL working, this means we can use live wallpapers as well in Kaiser right? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
I am using radio 1.65.21.18 that came with the wm6.1 update.

I should mention that I have successfully been using several versions of android on this device including my current donut build.

I am thinking it has something to do with the new way of doing this.

I am sure I am doing something wrong but I have yet to figure it out.

I am following the instructions that come with the zip. (except I haven't partitioned the card yet)

will the alpha 2 version address this issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
No, I don't support outdated radios.

@nyunyu: yes, you should be able to upgrade from now on without losing your data. We'll probably be able to use mssmison's optimized LiveWallpapers, but it won't be as smooth as newer devices. It's a showy feature but it doesn't add anything functional to the ROM, so I'm probably not going to include it for a while -- even G1 users are having a lot of problems with LiveWallpapers. I'd rather spend time on Camera and Bluetooth drivers :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jcatt:
@polyrithmic

Could my GPS issues be radio related? I have still been unable to obtain even a cell-based location with Google Maps let alone a GPS fix. What radio do you use so I can try it out.

Thanks for your support and I am looking forward to Alpha 2!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
Cheers jcatt, yes your problems are probably radio-related. I use the latest radio, 1.71.09.01.

Alpha 2 is out. AGAIN, PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!!!!!

UPDATE 11 Feb 2010:

polymod 2.1 alpha 2 package with working OpenGL now released!!!

Upgrade Instructions: If you've already installed 2.1a, grab polymod_update_2.1a-to-2.1a2.zip. Extract the update zip to your andboot folder. Launch HaRET with the installer (non-gps) default.txt. After entering the installer, choose 4. Install Update and once finished, choose 2. Fix Permissions . You can then reboot with the default-gps.txt and enjoy GPS and Hardware OpenGL acceleration!

Installing from scratch? Get the full 2.1a2 release from the first post!

Note: NAND is not yet supported -- our files are too far ahead of the kernel :) LiveWallpapers will probably work, but I am not supporting them yet -- we have camera and bluetooth to fix first.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jklier:
polymod 2.1 alpha install time

Curious how long this should take to install on a Tilt. My install been going at least 30 minutes now. It's not stock as the info on the screen keeps changing, The series of numbers at the far bottom left are now showing 2199.211059. This increases every couple of minutes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
It should install in minutes... I'll need to know what the screen is saying in order to debug the problem.... if you're seeing numbers in brackets like [2199.211059] those are kernel timestamps, which likely means Android is installed but is having problems booting. Make sure you're installing 2.1 alpha 2. You also need the latest radio and a compatible ROM like Solace 3.1. If you search this thread you'll find more ROM recommendations.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jklier:
I'm running TPC Elite 11 for the ROM and the radio is 1.71.09.01.

I just saw the update for Alpha 2. I'll give it a try right now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jklier:
One other question. Does it have to go in a folder called andboot? I've been using the Gen.y Dualboot utility and I believe it only has options to be in the root of the SD card or in a folder called android. Thanks for the help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nyunyu:
True..true..better to have working camera than wallpapers.

Thanks for the hardwork mate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
Yes, it does have to go into andboot. That is very likely the problem you are having. Requests have been made in the Gen.y Dualboot thread to make the HaRET location configurable with a registry entry, but for now I don't think Gen.Y Dualboot works with this build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jklier:
No, I've been loading it from the andboot folder. I wanted to follow the directions completely before throwing in another variable. Will post how the Alpha 2 install goes shortly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
edit...

Will fix in a minute
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
I have a couple of other questions.

1. is this new way of installing coming from eclair or is it something that you are doing separately?

2. is the requirement for a hacked radio with a hacked windows rom a result of eclair or the new installation method?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mcek12:
GSM data issue

Hi all,

thanks a lot for new update.

I still trying to have GPRS/Edge data operational, but without success.

(same with previous eclair version, same with Donut).

On WM are data operational...

Configuration:

- Kaiser (HTC TyNT2)

- latest radio 1.71.09.01

- polymod 2.1 alpha 2 update on ext2 partitions

- operator T-Mobile CZ

APN config is correct (via menu), I'v also tried to create new APN config. And also use SIM card from different operator - no success.

Is there some log available? Or is possible to enable logging of data setup (APN connection, PPP negotiation, etc).

Best regards

Michael
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jklier:
Alpha 2 is having the same problem for me. Slowly scrolling through with the time stamp increasing in the lower left.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shinewithme:
i serious help!!! can one u guys help me install this to my kaiser....its a lil confusing wit all update....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Here's working wifi for Eclair:

http://www.mediafire.com/?ezyzekjozj3

More updates on the way
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
@gochem, a package of these files will not be posted. This build is not mature enough and the files change too fast, it would be a headache to maintain and support. Why don't you try one of the premade packages of the more functional builds like the ones posted here?

@Keland44: I've never tried to send or receive txts from AIM. Are they sent or formatted any differently than normal txts?

EDIT: enatefox, you rock. Did you base this off of the rootfs in my first post? EDIT 2: Looks like you based it off of the latest eclair/eclairhero for kaiser! Testing now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
It won't be in a minute. I had these issues before when they reorganized rootfs. I can't find what is causing the permission issue but then, like now, settings crashed and power sleep was broken. I'm going to upload another based on the older layout and confirm if that's the issue. Look at the perms and everything is owned by 0:0 which is bad.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
I've noticed some chown errors when watching logs. Looks like the users/groups/ids might be different in this build? Let me know if I can help with any testing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rayzine:
Good for u.

May I ask. What software/driver need to make my PC recognize the Tytn ii + Android? As I can use my PC to charging the mobile (in Andriod OS) via USB but not data transfer. So I only see the charging battery icon on top of the screen but not the USB icon. May I know how to do that?

THANKS.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
It's the rootfs, not the image. I can't find the problem. Shadow, groups and passwd are the only obvious culprits but they are the same as the one I've been using. Until someone can figure that out, I'm sticking with the older layout and updating the files. It worked for me with Donut..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tnayrbj:
Honestly

I am trying to come up to speed to help here shortly, nut what calls the eclair.user.config file. I checked the startup.txt and it is not there. should I delete the other files in the config folder and only leave this one??

Thanks

Jon
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
The eclair.user.conf file is called by the init script in the root of the rootfs. init autodetects the build you have installed and chooses the user.conf accordingly. You can leave the other user.conf files in place, they don't take up any space and you'll need them to boot other builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Keland44:
the phone receives a message from 256060 which i think is my aim account

i don't know to much more other then that might be an andriod issue i'll search around and see if other regular users are having this issue

yea just checked with another aim account i have that number is unique for each AIM account.

i'll get back on the andriod side a little later and play around with it some more to see if it just needs to take a little longer for the text to come through on the andriod side
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aikeru:
Thank you for all the work you do! I wish I could contribute!

I wonder how difficult it would be for a C# application developer to learn enough Java/C++ (?) to help with Android/Kaiser drivers :)

You guys rock and you've made my phone experience so much better so thank you!!!

I don't have the option to test WiFi at my present location but swapping out the rootfs.img works fine on my phone :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
bug reports

Thanks to everyone for the work that has gotten into this. I am exited by the perspective in the Eclair. It is snappy and the native exchange support is something I really need.

A couple of bugs:

- I can only see a couple of my music files.

- My phone doesn't ring or vibrate on incoming calls (deal-breaker) - Maybe this is fixed with the new rootfs?

- Meridian media player FC very often (almost always)

- Facebook widget does not update by it self.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chuby007:
kool

This is my first try at android... everything seems to work normally.. the 3g works, ( have not tried the wifi ) rings are ok, have not tried the camera.

Anyhow, it's kinda kool/dissapointing to see Android make this phone really work as it should.

with windows mobile 6.0, 6.1, and 6.5 it's always slughish, slow, a real pain in the ass, now comes android and kicks ass.

I know to make a loader for haret is not hard but maybe I should wait until this is more stable or the cameras work ( I have not really tried them, ,seems I have to download something, I have not checked )

Still how bittersweet to see that this phone still kicks ass but the OS is what kills it :(

thx to the poster and the others that helped out

chuby
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I can only comment on two of these, but for me, vibrate has never really worked on Android.

The Facebook update doesn't work, and neither does Maps. That needs to be fixed but no, it just doesn't work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
If you want something that works better, I recommend this build. It's made for Vogue but it works just fine on Kaiser and it's got GPS and camera as well. Only things that I know don't work are network location and bluetooth. Also, it's a Donut build but it has Eclair apps and Eclair theming, and it doesn't have the update issues that this one currently does. Try it out!

P.S.: This Eclair build is looking very nice. I'm simply recommending something else temporarily. But when camera and such is fixed, I'll almost definitely be sticking with the build found here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jforme:
WiFi works

I just just loaded this build and new rootfs, my wifi works, I tested this at 2 different places to confirm, able to make and receive calls. Have not tested GPS and camera yet, will report soon.

thanks a lot for all contributors.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
Hmm, vibrate works fine for me on other builds :confused: But the real issue is that it doesn't ring either ....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jforme:
vibrate works, soft keyboard does not work

vibrate works fine, calling and receiving voice calls is fine too but soft keyboard does not work, for now I am using the Hard Keyboard on my tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Unbelievable.. I posted the updated rootfs and already 75 downloads. Most problems that are being reported (what 5 threads now) are all related to it. The only thing I did was fix init and the wifi files and nothing more.

I said it before but to reiterate, since the new series of rootfs images, things have not quite been right with permissions. This includes brightness, vibrate, sleep state, etc. Due to me being retarded, I failed at the last couple of tweaks to it but I think I know what I need to do now to get things back. The rootfs.img I've used for Donut will work but there have been some changes since that I will need to go over. Fear not, I will post a working one but if anyone is trying to get things going on their end, I think I left enough clues.

And for theming-- images have been dramatically changed so my themes are not quite compatible. I will get to working on it probably tomorrow and I'll post a blacked out version when it's all working.

I've deleted my source files since a reinstall but is anyone working on compiling camera, etc. for Eclair yet?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
From what I can tell there are a ton of Linux-using Kaiser owners lurking, silently enjoying these builds. Every once in a while somebody with 1 or 2 posts comes out of the woodwork and starts offering ideas to fix Linux-related issues.

I don't know where to start, as far as building and testing hardware drivers, I work mostly in scripting languages... but as soon as I figure out anything good I'll post an update!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
True. No surprise but what we are dealing with is not "Android Java" related at all. This is Linux stuff pure and simple. Honestly it's not hard it's just tedious and the details are very minute. Remember "diff -e" and "diff -qr" are very useful tools to check changes in files. Right now I'm busy with real life stuff but I'm every bit invested in Eclair. Despite our woes, which I'll just say again are rootfs.img related and not Eclair specific, the responsiveness is breath taking. Seriously I've never seen a smartphone jump into a call so fast and this is by no means optimized to our hardware. I hope once we get Flan to boot it will be even better but we need to do this.

The weekend is approaching. As I said I will look into it all as time permits and I like to see others working on this too. From here on out, I will be posting updates and diff files so you can see exactly what I am doing. I hope devs do the same-- there's no reason to reinvent the wheel and it will speed up development. Remember, we still need to get Droid apps working on this too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
This new way of installing is much more similar to the system used for G1 and other native android devices. It makes ROMs much easier to port and allows easier upgrading without losing data.

It's not a 'hacked' radio, it's an updated radio, old radios have bugs. No 'hacked' ROMs are required, only compatible ROMs.

@mcek12: If you want to learn how to debug Android, start reading about adb. You get information from terminal or adb with commands logcat, logcat -b radio, and dmesg.

@jklier: I still have no way to debug your problem unless you give me a LOT more information...

@shinewithme: Just follow the directions, they are very clear. If you have specific questions, let us know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jklier:
Let me know what info you need and I'll post it. Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
I'll take as much of the screen dump as you can read, what are the last readable lines on the screen? The numbers are nothing but timestamps, so they don't clue me in to anything... I'll need to see error messages or status messages. This new no-rootfs setup should create a text file called dmesg in your andboot folder -- it should be the same output as you see on the screen. If you can change that to dmesg.txt and attach it to your post, that should be helpful.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ashasaur:
Well I for one am having a problem...I followed the instructions, but android seems to stop booting at a line that says-"Failed to reach system.img on SD Card"

The line before that is-"/dev/block/loop1: No such file or directory"

Any ideas? Methinks bad download perhaps? Thanks people.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dv84:
Check this post out it helped me with the system.img problem

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5598464&postcount=1152
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxaznxx27:
so i'm having the same problem and i tried the holding the camera button down thing, but it just goes to this option screen? what do i do from there? and where's the .tar file? o.0
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wzzp144:
script files just stopp!!

okay guys, i need help. I got in the intaller and i did create fat32, 256 ext2, 256 ext2. I pressed option the ext to system.img and ext to data.img. Then AM I SUPPOSE TO PRESS INTALL THE SYSTEM. Ok..after i did that it came back to the installer screen and then was i suppose to press exit? Then it started the script files again and then it just stopped for a long long time? is that suppose to happen? it said no such directory or file found. Should i go back and press clean
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dv84:
@xxaznxx27; When you are in the options screen goto the first option "install the system" and click it... Just wait for it to install and it will bring you right back to the options screen. Wehn that happends just go down to the last option and Exit. Once it exits it will load android. Remember give it a little time since it was the first time u are running it so let it load completely then reboot. (The reboot option does not currently work so turn of instead of rebooting).

@wzzp144; yea it does take a little time for the installation to happen but can u do use a favor and just try to copy down the errors you get so that we can try and figure out what is going on and why you are getting the errors.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxaznxx27:
thanks! its booting right now, but for some reason it said vogue android? I could have swarn i used the kaiser default.txt. we'll see. hahah

p.s.: is it suppoed to say android_power: wakeup and init:untracked pid

a bunch of times? how long has it taken other people to boot?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
It will always say 'vogue android' although it's for kaiser/vogue/polaris. No, if it says 'android_power: wakeup' that means something went wrong with installation, you'll need to try reinstalling. If it happens again, get the dmesg file from /andboot folder, rename it to dmesg.txt and attach it to your forum post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rckhndphil:
terminal

any way for me to bring up and android terminal on my pc? i would really like to enter my commands so i can read all of them