yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hamkeng:
I guess we are talking about Topix 3.0.1 weather here ?

Hmm. I have just tried this rom a long time ago as I use WM 6.1 Topix with no weather myself, but If I remember correctly, I had no issue with sms sorting on this rom. But then again, I could be wrong.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] hamkeng:
He must have talked about Topix 3.0.1 weather.

The rom in this thread (TOPIX_Kwbr_Win 6.5_Ver_21877 + TouchFLO3D 2.1.38411.0), does not have this bug.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] arifqur:
Yup guys I am talking about the 3.0.1 Rom. The 6.5 ver 21877 has no such problems
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dragonpluto:
yeah this is what i'm looking for thanks so much
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dragonpluto:
Sorry simplistian, did you install that percentagebatteryfix cab and get it working yet? I tried to install it but it doesn't work yet. do you have a different cab that work for me? thanks so much.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simplistian:
I installed FInixNOverBatteryIconsOnly.cab and it works fine. Did you soft reset after installation? Maybe the sdkcerts.cab is needed as well I forgot if I did install it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KurtSagar:
Maxmanila ?

Hi Jigners,

I has a weird question, So i thought i'll just ask u :)

I've being seeing lot of ROM's with MAXMANILA these days.

Can that be incorporated in this ROM with Old Manila 2.1 ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonifen:
The ROMs I see with MaxManila cooked in are all Manila/Sense 2.5 so I'd guess it doesn't work on Manila 2.1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KurtSagar:
WM6.1 + Manila 2.5

Ohhhk ...

So, Is there a ROM with a combination of WM6.1 + Manila 2.5 ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
yes, Miri has released 3 versions of it a couple of months back but the thread has since closed, you can search for it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KurtSagar:
WM6.1 + Manila 2.5

Thanks Jigners ...

I searched it, but they haven't been updated since Sep'09 :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
i think Miri stopped its development due to so much problems being encountered, and everyone at that time was jumping on the bandwagon of Windows 6.5.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
attached is the cab for the font in my screen shot

study and learn the art of Maranello HDWall, you would open a new chapter in the HD experience
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonifen:
Jigners, can I just check if it's right that the font cab doesn't change the font for the SMS tab in Manila?

As the font on mine is still as it was before.

Also (this is aimed at anyone) I can find things to enlarge the text on the SMS tab, but not to reduce it. Any ideas?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
in my experience, using the nokia style font does not change the SMS font in SMS tab.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
am gone back to this modification style

kind of miss it

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5697372&postcount=29
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonifen:
That's a relief, I thought it might have been just me :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tsalta:
Can you write more about this ROM i mean im with 1.56 Olinex so i can directly copy the Nbh file in my SD and flash it?!

saw you wrote to pair ir with a HSPL why?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simplistian:
You can flash via SD card, I did that for this ROM with HSPL 1.56 Olinex. I think what he means is just for flashing via USB.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
just flash via sd card, i havent tried hspl with blackstone, i took the uspl way

but as others have done, pair the .nbh file with a blackstoneRUU in your

sd card and flash it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simplistian:
No need to pair with RUU just place the BLACIMG.NBH file in the SD root, get into bootloader and it would start flashing if you have HSPL. If you go USPL, take out the SD card during the USPL process and insert it before the last reboot.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
thanks for explaining hspl, as i explained i only done uspl.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
Hi Jigners. I have a real question, not a troll:

Could you explain me what are the benefit of running WM6.5 with Manila 2.1 compared to WM6.1?

Because for every 6.5 build I tested I have encountered some slow down issue after a few weeks of use I hadn't with 6.1. For exemple, the last Topix is awsome during 2 or 3 weeks, but now my 3.5.5 is becoming extremely slow, it cannot handle multitask anymore or it get almost frozen. I noticed that many 6.5 are pity in memory handling, so why to bother with 6.5 though 6.1 do works perfectly for ages? Sorry from being odd but i need to understand.

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sschrupp:
You know I have wondered this myself which is why I've often asked about getting the newest version of 6.1.

What ARE the benefits of 6.5? Is it simply UI changes, or are there other fundamental changes to the operating system that's supposed to make it better?

So far from what I've experienced stripped down 6.5 ROMs are still more unstable and slower than 6.1 ROMs. I'm normally all about the latest and greatest shiny thing, but I'm just not seeing much of a sparkle with 6.5 yet.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
it is no doubt that many has noticed this with 6.5 with the Blackstone. but for >2 weeks on this ROM (my partner is now using my blacstone with this ROM), so far we have not noticed the slowdown over time effect.

my real desire for 6.5 is its overall UI smoothness, also if you read through the post a few commented that this combination is just right for the balckstones potential. we owe this to Kwbr, who is still cooking for the blackstone. simplistian and i are keeping an eye on this thread despite me now having the Leo. so far we still havey yet to encounter somebody who tried the ROM and had a major bug found. this keeps my interest on this ROM, i highly recommend you try it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simplistian:
For me, I need winmo 6.5 for the lock screen, for the better looking UI, and as jigners said, the overall UI smoothness, especially the OS level kinetic scrolling. After installing everything I use daily (mainly SEVEN push mail, browsers, 300+ facebook contact sync), this ROM is faster than many 6.1 builds.

I also found that sense 2.5 builds will become slow after several weeks of usage. But it never happened in this ROM. If you are bored by the ancient looking winmo 6.1 and disappointed by the sluggish sense 2.5, try this!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] guy73:
i love this rom..no problem so far...along with Radio 1.17
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
thanks mate! enjoy it and please report back any bugs found:);)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dragonpluto:
This Rom is really quick and stable so far. I am wondering how could i improve the battery life? Everyone here has any idea to improve the battery drain?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simplistian:
The most obvious way to improve battery life for me is to try other radio, 1.14 works the best for me, must better than 1.17. I believe it depends on different mobile operators and the usage pattern (wifi, 3G, roaming, etc) so better try yourself. Other ways are just generic, for example disabling 3G...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sschrupp:
So it sounds like people only prefer 6.5 because of minor UI differences from 6.1 which doesn't even matter if a person were using different UIs like SPB Mobile Shell. The OS itself isn't faster or stable, it just provides some UI benefits to Manila/Sense. Which is great for people that like Manila/Sense.

Does that sound about right?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
WM6.5 is supposed to have better memory handling than 6.1

so good to read, i've just jump to 3.5.6 but I may tri it in afew days or so. Thx for your kind reply.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-CrAcKeR:
hi

i need BG4All cab plz

thanx nd b.rgrds
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simplistian:
I use HDWall to create a cab for it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
as simplistian indicated, learn the art of HDWall, you will open up a new chapter in your experience with the Blackstone. there is tutorial guide of it,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Dr-CrAcKeR:
thanx guys

i'll try to use it ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dragonpluto:
thank you for your suggestion. I'll try it and give my opinion later:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
new nbh download link in first post thanks to Lazy79:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dragonpluto:
Could someone give me a transparent clock that works for this Rom please? I've been trying many cabs and all of them don't work on this ROM.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simplistian:
Have you tried jigner's mods?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dragonpluto:
Yeah I tried them all. I Love them all except I want to have a transparent clock instead of blue clock. I also tried "Transperant Clock Manila 2.1 Sense.cab", however, it is still no effect :(...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
try searching here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=480510

look for one with clocks for Man 2.1 ( not the Man 2.1 with sense)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
now we could use the Hex edited Task 29 from the HD2 Thread for the blackstone

just to pair it with a Blackstone Radio. we should expect now for ROMs to run more stable

and faster.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonifen:
I'm not quite sure what that means. It sounds good though!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
here is the thread for this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=653604
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ktaro:
;)thank you very very
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] devile:
I notice that the new words that I added will be gone when I soft reset. Anyway to fix this or am I the only one having this problem?

Other than that very stable and fast rom!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
i'm not sure whether anyone has found a sulution to that, have you tried using

finger keyboard?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] simplistian:
It happens in topix 3.5.7 or 3.5.8 as well. I can't confirm this ROM as I never use HTC IME and always install TouchPal after flash.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
See if these files have read only attributes and remove these with e.g. total commander

\Windows\ET9IMEDB\eT9AsDb.Adb

\Windows\ET9IMEDB\eT9Rudb.Rdb
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jimk68:
NRGZ28 just post a hotfix, you might want to try it

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jldiablo:
The old version manila is way faster than all the new ones with weather animations!!!!!! I'm addictied to it now! it will perfect if this one has CHS Ezinput 2.1 or EN Ezinput 2.0 installed.. (with ezinput 2.0 WWE, we can install our own CHS IME 2.1 cab).

anyway, I'm using the topix 3.5 WM 6.1 with WWE Ezinput 2.0 and it works perfectly.. thanks for all the hard works!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] devile:
Well, I can't del the 2 files and they are not read only status.

I tried the NRG fix as well but still din work.

Guess I just gotta live with it.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonifen:
I got thinking earlier, this release of Manila is miles quicker than the ones with Sense included. I've done a few searches (both on here and google in general) but can't see if anyone has tried this Manila 2.1 (no Sense) and the newer builds of WM6.5.x - is there any out there?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] devile:
I would love to see an updated version with windows 6.5.5 and manila 2.1(without sense) but think I've not seen that before too...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
this Manila is old but newer than the original manila that the blackstone was

released with. i think it is the Manila of Rhodium and Diamond 2 when these devices

were released, it was then ported to the blackstone.

the best ROMs of the past >8 months (Dutty 3.9XT, Laurentius 3.55 full Rhoduim used

this ir similar Manila versions, then by around August '09 the Sense version started

appearing.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] devile:
Hmmm...so many best roms but you are still stuck to this one! I can totally understand why though...lol
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonifen:
I definitely prefer it this way though - I've become to wonder what the point of having the weather on the main screen is... it's what windows were invented for (looking outside) after all!!

Do you know of any WM6.5.3 or WM6.5.5 ROMs which have this manila in? Or is it likely to be a bit of a problem area like Manila 2.5 on WM6.1 (as seen in Miri's test ROM a while back)?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
i think atm, best thing to do is pm Kwbr or others cooks if they'd make one for us to test.

LOL, you are perfectly correct! Windows were invnted so humans can look what

the weather is like outside.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rust123bg:
Amazing ROM !

These days i got another HD and tested a bunch or different roms , comparing directly one to another.

Now both of the HDs are with this rom . A agree with jigners , that it is the best rom for this device !

Too much faster than any 2.5 rom .
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vranicki:
Instaled this Rom a couple of hours ago.

Till today I was using Davideuck 6.5 V-7 lite...that Rom is Great !...I wanted to change it just to try something new...

First impressions of Topix are Good...Hope it will stay that way...

Greetings from Hyperborea
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] devile:
Well I think you will be impressed by this rom definitely.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
been looking after this thread, so far about >90% of all the post are of a positive nature!:)

More power to Kwbr - ROM creator!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
custom task bar

here is a beautiful custom taskbar

courtesy of InsecureSpike (beta team of Laurentius)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] devile:
just to check, under Settings, Communications, is there an option to choose 3G? I seem to recall have but now cannot find on my tab
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonifen:
I'm sure they're busy enough with their current ROMs and life in general without me throwing more work at their feet!

I should get my backside into learning how to cook (both ROMs and food too!) but I haven't the free time these days. One day... one day :)

That taskbar looks good, gonna give it a go now. Thanks for pointing it out.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
I hope my blackstone will be up and running very soon :D Time for an update I guess
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rust123bg:
Yes .

There is also option in htc connection manager , which is more handy :)

Hey KWBR , does your words mean that you are gonna to prepare a new release with manila 2.1 ? :) Sounds nice !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
great news this is for us, Thanks!:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] devile:
Must had installed something that mess my settings tab up, now under communications 3G is missing so I can't turn it off.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Yup, that is the idea indeed :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] henrik.dk:
Have the screen back?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kwbr:
Sent by Brando and on it's way.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonifen:
I couldn't agree with jigners more, this ROM (with Manila 2.1) is definitely the best mix currently available for the Blackstone (my opinion!).

Thanks kwbr, I'll look forward to trying it out :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nakht:
This ROM is amazing! :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rust123bg:
Cheers for Jigners for opening this tread and keeping it alive !
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] joni870303:
agps, gps, my location error

Hi!

Manila 2.1 3.5 WM6.5 using TOPIX Sense weather. The concern I have with my ear to the weather location can not be updated for mobile Internet, except wifi network.

I use 1.17.25.09 radio.

What could be the solution to my troubles? Please give me help ...

Thanks in advance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] touchhdizzel:
great news!!! using ur manila 2.5 relaeses at the moment since i just wanted to flash something:) but its just to slow. looking forward to the next 2.1 release!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
things are really getting hot in here!:):) a new Win 6.5 with (I hope) an old Manila 2.1 (not the sense one) and perhaps some more goodies from Kwbr:):p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nakht:
Does anyone know of a good application to allow background on all tabs that works with this manilla version?

Other thing is the Start Menu is kinda messy... Anyone has an app to set up start menu folders with Icons etc... *don't know if this is even possible but...*
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] devile:
Recently got a problem with the ROM. Sometimes when I rec SMS, the phone will just keep on vibrating and don't stop till I off the phone. Anyway to fix it?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] edwinlinkt:
Great news :D looking forward to your new WM65 with Manila 2.1 No Weather ROM :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] edwinlinkt:
Have you try Awesome Start and Start Menu Sorter? As the name say, they're awesome :p

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=587631
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] edwinlinkt:
Analog Clock

i use Max Dual Clock (Analog + Digital) for Kwbr WM61 M21...

But when i tried with this ROM, the calendar in the home screen is missing :confused:

I think maybe not compatible with this Manila version....

Anyone can suggest a good Dual Clock (Analog + digital clock) cab for this ROM? Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
can't wait. Bored so much by Sense 2.5
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
so far you are the only one who has reported this strange behaviour, most probably a mode or app you've installed, try the process of elimination first.:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
HDWall works wonders for this ROM, if you can only see the first post where

i posted my graphical mods

I do it manually, in file explorer, navigate to \windows\start menu\programs then create four folders namely, Multimedia, web, connectivity and tools

install this cab attached and using Total Commander, rearrange the programs to

it respective folders. lastly install the awesome start cab.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] devile:
I guess must be something that I installed too..

Waiting patiently for the next Topix Win 6.5 + Manila 2.1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] triad88:
does this need video drivers?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
no, all ROMs come with all necessary drivers for it to run:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] triad88:
damn then i have to uninstall neo drivers :S

hope that i dont need to hard reset it again.

:( its slower then before reflash again with the 29 thing and then flash your rom again.

also i found a bug with the new rom.its in the "mail" setup in 2.1.when you want to set it up it hangs/loop.it keeps on running and do nothing.but if you go to "settings" in 2.1 and setup the "mail setup" it works.

After a long time fiddling around with the mail setup and looking around on the net it works.i think bc of the wrong setting that i made it hangs or so.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
actually Neo Driver is not the graphics driver that this has, but if you want you

can install this and see if there is any noticeable difference. But as many have

observed Neo Driver is effective only with Sense 2.5 ROMs
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] touchhdizzel:
jo kwbr,

dont be annoyed, but is there an eta for the update? just running one of ur manila 2.5 and really want to go back to 2.1. but since it takes me quite a while to flash and setup everything again i am trying to avoid flashing the rom of this thread and seeing the update released tmr.

thx for your hard work

dizzel
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kingsoftszw:
very good............
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] wodzu:
Nice ROM

I'm currently use this ROM and this ROM is amazing - battery life is very good.

I flashed my Blackstone with Energy ROM before but it drain my battery very fast what is unacceptable in everyday using.

kwbr good job!!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
thanks for sharing your experience, all credit goes to Kwbr. the ROM creator!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] triad88:
this is the best rom that i used just tryed a other rom with 2.5 Manila Rhodium om it and it is slower then this.so have to install mine settings again for the 3th time but i still cant get the "htc quietly brilliant"screen gone.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kazoza:
how does this rom compare to kwbr 3.2.1 ...i.e:speed wise stability wise and what extra stuff does it have
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
no one can give you a more accurate comparison than yourself. so flash it and experience it yourself, more importantly share us your opinion. thanks.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kazoza:
i was hopping for a more informative answer to avoid reinstalling all my apps(actually i am not a flashohlic) only justified flashes :)

i mean if nothing to it than the lock screen or the hexagonal start menu then i`ll pass but if it has something real benefitial and tempting tjen i`ll go for it
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonifen:
Oh, this would definitely be a justified flash :)

I used a few different ROMs after changing from the Stock ROM (Dutty, Energy, Miri) and then tried a Topix ROM. Stuck with a few different versions of that and then saw jigners mention this one. Flashed it on a good few months back now and haven't wanted to flash another ROM since. It's WM6.5 without the Sense bloat. I've been trying iPhoneToday which runs flawlessly.

You really should give it a go, it is THAT good! :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kazoza:
thanx a lot you gave me the nudge i needed to go for it:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tsalta:
Hello Jigners i have a question about that ROM because i forgot maybe befor i flash it or im not very sure so my question is

Do the Dialer have conference call option?

Im asking because there is not pictures of the room to see this, also this is with the old TF3D so my question is when you go into album tab and click some image do the image have Auto Rotation by default like the old Stock HD Rom`s !?

Thanks in advance
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
i cant remember exactly if this has the conference call option. i dont think it has, but the

album dont auto rotate when browsing through the photos like the stock HD ROM has.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Rust123bg:
This reminded me something /as you talk about the album/ . It's a must to remove album from the manila g-sensor whitelist . Otherwise , sliding through pictures when device is landscape will be very slow . You can easy see how much better is when you slide them in portrait ;)

After you remove it, it will be always nice :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nearlygod:
Anyone knows which 4 colums cab is working with this rom? Cookies doesn´t

thx,

nearly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Nakht:
Cookie's doesn't? damn! I was going to try it now... :(

Any news about the new version?
[General Questions and Answers] eujene:
Anybody knows is there any decent world clock widget for android devices? Exept one that is in HTC Sence, i didn't find anything at all