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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anothertmobilemda:
it's the Zimage file....use the default one in the haretinstall.zip. i used the mar 19 and got the error as you. I switched to the def file Zimage-eclair and now installs:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aikeru:
IMO I think this has to do with loading the phone app into memory. Usually what I do is load it when my phone is restarted to decrease the time it takes. I'm surprised you have this problem with NAND though. :(

I'd like to know how I can better tweak the loading/unloading of programs in Android. I'd like to expand the available memory since I'm using an 8GB off-brand class 6 MicroSD card (programs appear to load quicker but no scientific testing yet) and allow it to cache as greedily as possible if that makes any difference.

Are there instructions for this? I did a Google search but might not have put in the right search terms. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] manu33xtro:
Have you a Polaris ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] assangflexx:
@manu33xtro

I have a TytnII

And still no problems at all.

I am really considering to flash android with an nhb. But still i am facing the problem with the battery. It's really draining as hell.

I think when battery is working properly than i would flash immediatly android. Camera can always work after a update :)

BTW,

my battery is freaking out? when i am charging in android, i restart in winmo because usb host doesn't work yet, and when sd removing, android freezes. Only for a update.

But charging, after 35% it jumps to 100% in WINMO!!!

Someone can tell what the hell, and maybe how to recalibrate it again in WINMO...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carcomp:
If your battery is dying quickly, try a different radio. Try the 1.65 one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] maneki:
Hi guys, can u remind me wich radio is the best in order to install Andy :) ?

thx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DJHile:
I've been runnning the latest build on NAND now for about a week or so. Things were great the first 3 days, then I started getting a few force closes on apps that came with the build.

NOW for some reason, when I get a new notification and click on it to say.. open up the missed calls, it pops up a black screen as if it's going to show me the call log then goes blank and goes back to the home screen. This doesn't happen if I get a notification of a new text message, only the Call History, and it also does the same thing when trying to access the Phone, Call History, and even Menu>Settings ... now I can't even adjust my settings.

Anyone else had this happen? Any idea how to remedy this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
in NAND...

/sys/module/hw3d/ is empty

shouldn't there be /sys/module/hw3d/parameters/version with a value of 1?

if so how do I create it? I can't get it to mkdir parameters.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
Thanks for suggestion. That works.

How do I get the bluetooth fix? I have tried several Zimages and ones that work with bluetooth, sound on phone is not working (handset, alarms, etc), others were sound works bluetooth does not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
Seen this question asked a few times now, so here's a quick guide to fixing permissions.

Assuming you are updating, the procedure goes like this.

1. power down/pull battery, ( whichever you prefer), power on and enter installer, ( press dpad centre key when asked ).

2. move down to 'update android', press ok, wait for update to finish, you should now have returned to the installer menu, now move up to 'fix permissions', press ok, wait for it to finish, returns you to installer screen, you can now exit the installer, move down to quit, press ok, Android now continues to boot.

And thats the procedure, you can use the installer to fix permissions at any time, not just when you install or update, sometimes when things get a little slow or buggy I fix permissions and clear dalvik cache.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Keland44:
has the androidinstall.tgz been updated with this? i'm redownloading the main install

do i need to still run the update? thanks for the help keep up the good work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ruz:
I haven't posted any feedback in a while, and yesterday I had my first serious issue running Polymod so I thought I'd feedback my latest experience for reference.

Running the recommended radio, NAND flashed 2.1G without the BT updates, I tried to answer a call just as the caller hung up. I then went to Messaging app, which hung. I couldn't do anything with it. Eventually I took the battery out, and rebooted, but something appeared hosed, and I got no network lock, and the phone was really really slow and unresponsive. Eventually I had to pull the battery out again, and the same thing happened on the next reboot - it seemed like something was spinning in a tight CPU loop, but I couldn't get into any task manager to find out what.

Eventually, after a couple of reboot cycles I started seeing the very first 'android' install wizard screen, prompting me to touch the android. The phone was still unresponsive, and nothing happens when I do that even after a few minutes.

Anyway, performing a clean reinstall to see how it goes.

Just feeding back, not complaining :)

Cheers

Ruz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Biglittlewhateva:
I would have to say no, I don't. Can I just drop it in place and run?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] saint168:
I just changed zImage to zImage-eclair. It's working better, apps are not crashing all the time, but still no sound and I could hear the caller but the caller couldn't hear anything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
Will you also release an Eclair version based on OpenEclair 2.0 (this 1.2.2 version is just to slow to use after a few days)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
This version is not too slow to use, if it is, it has not been installed right or an app you have installed is bringing it down. MAKE SURE to not do ANYTHING on first boot of a new installation, leave the phone alone for several minutes as in the instructions in the OP. I have been running the same polymod 2.1g installation for two weeks without issues, but I do make regular backups just in case.

OpenEclair 1.3 is coming before 2.0, there are a lot of changes and I make sure to test all updates before release. I keep a close eye on OE and any (non-kernel) improvements OE has we will have as well. Keep in mind we had more of 3D and BT working before G1s did :)

Memory settings have already been tweaked for this build, it doesn't get better than this for now. Don't worry about free memory :) free memory is wasted memory. Polymod caches as much as our old phones have memory for.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
I just can't use this version: no usb drivers (win7), no 3G-sharing also over usb (BT not working on notebook), suddenly freez gps (using every week), ...

I've used the nexus one a few times, it was much faster between switching apps (standard apps are quite fast on kaiser).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I'm sorry...but...did you...just...compare Kaiser...to...Nexus One? Uhh...yeah...

Do you seriously expect Kaiser to be as fast as Nexus One in any way? Even with the fastest build in the world on the Kaiser, the Nexus One will be faster with a ton of stuff bogging it down. It has more than twice than processing power of the Kaiser.

So yeah, I'm not sure why you would think that is polyrhythmic's fault. He's an outstanding developer - not a miracle worker.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] crackmaniac:
what is wrong with my phone?

Wifi doesn't work for me on my Kaiser.

Radio: 1.71.09.01

i installed the latest version from the first post. With an without the BT-Update, but wifi doesn't work.

Android tries to turn it on. But doesn't get it.

"WLAN kann nicht gestartet werden"

Could anybody help me, please?

I followed the installation guide written by j101399j.

The rom is fantastic, but i need the WLAN option (used as VOIP phone at home) if this would work i could Flash Android to nand.

thx

crackmaniac
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
You never needed to restart the phone regularly? Has your phone gotten stuck when booting, like just as you turn on the phone you never see the Android scrolling text? Sometimes I gotta pull the battery out and hold down the power button to completely drain it of power, and then it'll boot.

Just making sure I didn't do anything wrong.

What's the difference between 1.3 and 2.0? BTW, does either support installing apps onto the SD card?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] reddragon72:
This is the same issue I had. I even installed it 4 times and tried using it over a few days to see if it would go away, but whenever I called someone they could not hear me, and when they called I could never get it to answer and had to switch back to WM to make the call. Other then that is seems to be faster then WM and I love the apps selection.

BTW I am no longer trying this as a daily phone as I received a Nexus One and gave my Kaiser to my son. He wants Android on his Kaiser, but like I said the phone sound issue is stopping me from putting it on there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bluedots:
thanks poly and all fren. now I can use openeclair. which became my current problem is I can not update the latest zImage kernel to BT. when using haret suddenly my screen so freeze. but if I use my old kernel can boot and made it into the android. I am using the latest HSpl and Radio .. thanks ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sandy.bluebird:
Unable to get the Wifi

Build is very good, but am able to connect to Wifi.. not able to get internet from it... not sure why????

Can any one help me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anothertmobilemda:
i have 2.1g. and have done these updates in this order

a.bluetooth

b. wifi medium

c. full market.

wifi works great on my wireless (wep 64bit) network. tested 5 times with a 3mb download

3g = 1500kbps avg

wifi medium = 1350kbps avg

wifi high = 1371kbps

google maps cellular locations did not work until 1st initialization of WiFi (google maps latest ver on market). extremely accurate. turned wifi off and cellular location still works great.

*Note*

cellular location didn't work for me till i performed these steps in trying out WiFi speed

kais-100 flashed to nand over a fresh install of win 6.1 with radio 1.79.09.01
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bluedots:
aha...me too.:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marevaloh:
Polymod 2.1g on Polaris

Hello, I'm having a lot of problems with this on my Polaris. After a lot of tries I could get it to install on two ext2 partitions with Haret.

But it runs veeeeeery slowly, it says the system process is not responding and, although I press wait, it never ends: I get a black screen and I can poweroff the mobile through the (flight, power off, reboot)-menu. The first time I launched it, after installing, it could finish the boot but run with pauses and hicups, and no WiFi at all.

The only thing I think is left for me to do is updating the radio, is there any report of a working radio on a Polaris? Which radio?

I have1.58.21.23 (the original with WM6).

I haven't installed yet any Hard-SPL.

By the way the Ion Donut ROM is working at full speed (though no WiFi).

Thanks in advance.

BTW2: I get lots of those "waiting for notbusy" errors...

BTW3: When I say sloooow I mean that it takes half an hour to reach the system process error message. The first time it launched ok and it was a little bit slow, but man, I already know this is a 400mhz CPU :-D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bluedots:
i mean this...sorry double posting:o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Woodham:
Hmm it seems whatever I do the cellular location for me is waaaay off. I have finally got GPS working fine. Not sure what I did, however before I get GPS lock the cell location will put me well away from where I am, but always in the same place.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huttonjd:
Which zImage did you use?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
All I have to say is this:

Thanks Polyrhythmic, for a fast, stable, fun, build, without your tireless work on this we'd all be back in the dark ages of sqsh files and no wifi, gps, bt, running on sd cards and running out of battery every 30 minutes......

Just in case anyone has forgotten what it was like, read the first 10 pages of this thread, then look at your shiny android enabled Kaiser.

Fantastic isn't it, and you know what? We owe it all to guys like poly, myn, dzo, vilord and many others, who selflessly and tirelessly give their time to present us with these builds.

So next time you think polymod is slow, or would rather complain about not having a certain feature, please remember, these builds are still experimental, we users are part of this experiment.

I have noticed that a lot of problems faced by users are often down to rushing into things, and not reading the installation instructions carefully enough. If we miss a step, however small, the consequences may not be obvious, but later instability is often the result.

And yeah, I'm kinda P.O'd at some of the recent comments on this thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anothertmobilemda:
the one from the sourceforge link on 1st page....the 2010-2-14 folder

file name is haretinstall.zip

btw...i was finally able to boot from sd. i then decided to flash to nand.

much faster now

wow this is extremely amazing to be running android on my old kaiser......Poly and everyone thank u again.....its amazing man
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ostrozub:
Running 2.1g with all updates as a NAND on my Polaris and WiFi doesn't work. It turns on and than "unable to scan for the networks" shows.

Radio is 1.65.30.09. Using .nbh from sourceforge.net (POLAIMG-PANEL1-320.NBH)

BTW: BT doesn't turn on even after i've install BT update
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mayad79:
Market updater?

So the new update with the market updater .apk installation. How do we use it?

Poly,

You are the man. We have come so far, compared to a few months ago. WOW

Whenever I do your install, if I get any errors I simply start over. I think most folks are so happy to see anything after an install that they doen't realize initial FC ussually mean something went wrong, and to just start over.

Starting over, sometimes means re downloading the original file.

Thanks again,

Mo
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] totalkakkas:
This is an awesome thread...I didnt know anything about Andriod and I installed it on the first go....I love it...yup there are some problems. (No Windows XP drivers) (No Camera...). i am sure all ths will be fixed soon...

I also have one problem, When i slide it open it correctly changes to Side orientation but when i slide back it goes 180 instead of 90. I am sure this problem has been discussed before ( i tried looking at 250 pages ) but didn't get it... any help would be appreciated.

LOL Just saw the FAQ on the Windows XP Drivers and Orientation... Please dont mind... No answers necessary

Its nice to meet you all though...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
anyone using android with an external gps receiver with Bluetooth? Does it work fine? The longer is use this android, the more functions, solutions I find :)

Is NAND faster than using two EXT2 partitions?

With NAND: do you only use one ext2 partitions or also fat32 (my windows does recognise ext2 and ext3 partitions!)? You install only on device I think (like flashing windows mobile). Do you use for the data partition your SD card?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
I used mssmisoneclair7.rar and zImage-26-03-10:

First install takes a very long time (no bootlogo) and I have message "Process system is not responding:" when it's finally in android.

Installed on ext2 partition (not using data&system.img!)

Is this default the most correct one for an kaiser130 (original htc)?:

#-------------------------------------------------------------------

#alloctest 0x2000

kill *.exe

set RAMSIZE 0x08000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage-26-03-10 #http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/

set initrd initrd.gz

#

# The following kernel parameters are useful

# ppp.nostart	- Set ppp.nostart=1 to disable starting the ppp connection on boot

# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller

# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used when the phone is off

# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,

# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt 4=Wait for Interrupt

# Default is 1, use 1 for best power savings

# board-htckaiser.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on

# 0=Don't power off the panel (Default)

# 1=Sony 2=Topoly 3=Topoly (probably just the same as 2)

# lcd.density - Defaults to 160, 128 shows more on screen

#

set cmdline "ppp.nostart=0 pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=240 mddi.height=320 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0" hw3d.version=1

boot

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Edit: wifi doesn't work now with the latest fix (high)-Can't start it.

Why do you link on your homepage to an older androidinstall file? (mssmisoneclair7.rar works much better)

I really like this version (more and better menu's), it's blazing fast (almost as fast as the nexus I used previous week), but why is there a menu voque parts?

Does android for kaiser have edge support (mobile inet)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
It will pair up with the GPS but I've found no way to actually use it.

I don't know if anyone have measured it. I've tried both and I can't say that I've noticed any difference.

With NAND you either install both system and data also in NAND, or you can choose to put either system or data or both on EXT2 partitions. What I consider to propably be the best setup is to put system in NAND (for optimal speed) and data on EXT2 (for larger storage). Remember that you still need to create a primary partition for system as the data partition always is primary partition 3. I think it's hardcoded that way. You may also want to create a forth partition with the size of 32Mb in case you want to enable swap.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
Can't get wifi on with kernel 26-03, with kernel zImage 19-02 I can't boot within haret.

Edit: with kernel zImage-eclair can't get wifi working too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vexersa:
Working well, but not getting any Wifi data. Wifi connects, obtains IP Address but doesn't get any data...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Before I have configured my APN settings I can use the browser on Wifi but things like signing in to Google (for market, gmail, syncing contacts etc) does not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kangi26:
First thing I would try is to update your radio.

From Poly's first thread

"Please use this build with the latest radio, for Kaiser that is 1.71.09.01. Old radios are not supported."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kangi26:
Still have battery issues

Hi again poly, I've decided to give your new 2.1g a try, and it is SO much faster than some of the other previous versions. It's looking great, but I am still having battery drain issues. I installed last night, let the battery charge overnight, picked it up this morning, started to configure everything, and within 5 min, I went from 100% to the phone shutting down due to low battery power. I've looked for solutions for this, but couldn't find anything. Any ideas?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ostrozub:
Thank You for advice but i can't find radio version newer than 1.65.30.09 for Polaris. Please help to find
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] punjabiest:
EXT2 Partition Size

Does the partiton size for 2 EXT2 Partitions have to be 512 ? or can u make them whatever size you want ? Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ostrozub:
each partition should be at least 256MB
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kallt_kaffe:
Don't know. I read somewhere that the installer could crash if they were less than 256Mb so I made them 256Mb each (and told gparted to round up to nearest cylinder). I later resized the data partition to ~500Mb and I've reinstalled a few times since then and install still works. So 256Mb and larger seems to be save. Haven't tried smaller, but I guess you could always use gparted to resize them after the install in case you want to have smaller partitions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mordesku:
Hi, I have a problem. I have a Radio rom version 1.71.09.01 and wifi does not start, gets the message "Unable to run WiFi." I'm using the latest version of the rom from sourceforge. Perhaps somewhere a similar problem was discussed, unfortunately I have not found an answer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] robuser007:
Have you installed the fix? Are you using 2.1g or the latest mssmisoneclair7.rar 25-03 build?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kangi26:
Sorry Ostroub, didn't know you're running Polaris, I assumed you ran Kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
@robuser007: I also think mssmison has done a great job with his Eclair, but if you post about his build in my thread you're only going to confuse other users and myself as well. Please go post any comments related to his build in his thread :) Thanks.

Thanks to my supporters :) and donors :) :) for all the support! It looks like the update process is getting a bit confusing, I'll have to put together a couple full packages this weekend to make things simpler.

For now:

If you can't get Wifi to turn on at all:

Are you using the most recent radio for your device?

if you're using Feb 20th basefiles or NBHs, do NOT apply the BT fix. It will break your Wifi.

If you are using NEWER zImage/NBH for BT from the poly @ ponack site, you MUST install the BT update to install the updated WiFi driver.

If Wifi will turn on but won't connect:

Apply one of the WiFi power updates to increase your WiFi power. Every WiFi Access Point is different, and your device may need better signal strength for your AP.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fiddelm3742:
Market Server Error

Well, I've been rockin Polymod 2.1g on Nand for a while now. Did the BT Update a while ago and held off on the newer 3-19NBH, Wifi, and Market Fix. Well yesterday I took some time and did them all so I could be "bleeding edge" (And yes, I did the clear cache and fix permissions between updates/reboots, etc.)

Well my market is no longer working. Throws an error

"A server error has occourred" Retry/Cancel

So i opened up Market Enabler and tried to fake TMobile US settings and go back in. Same deal.

Anyone else running into this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] peto01:
if android will be fully working on kaiser, I will definitely use it. good job, keep going