yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
28011 is out, please have a look at http://bbs.xbeta.cn/viewthread.php?tid=24444&extra=page%3D1%26amp%3Borderby%3Drecommends%26amp%3Bfilter%3Drecommend&page=1, can someone teach me cooking a room?how to get the new xip?

there are so many build here, which one is better? 28*** series or 230** series or 23*** series? what is the difference between them? thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
21xxx COM2: Old style WM6.5 (Start Menu and X-Button on top)

216xx COM2: HTC's development with new GUI style.

230xx COM3: New GUI style

234xx COM4: The same as COM3

235xx COM5: New development but nothing special

28xxx COM3: Also called COM8, it is the latest COM3

I believed this is it, if I'm wrong please correct me :)

Personally I like the 28xxx.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
oh thank you very much, so now we should go for 28xxx because it is the newest, right? thanks a lot

guyz, do you have sleep death issue on 28008?read somewhere else that some of 28008 user has sleep death issue which is cause the device screen wont turn on, the only way to turn on is to do soft reset

and do you have a new keyboard style on 28008?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
I had that problem in the previous build (as reported) but for the last days I didnt had any issue. Maybe its because I uninstalled SHOWCASE and started using AMEBA instead. :/
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] gemj95:
Hi =D the rom is beautiful but there's an italian version?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
I spoke too son, just had one of those "sleep of death"... :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Strange, I use Showcase and didn't have a sleep of death,I think I just make a search on the site to see if it had something to do with the new gui.

Keep you informed
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
For an Italian version just take a look at the rom's of salvy.c.83 you can find it here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=502176 ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
I'm trying this trick for a couple of hours:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1315807&postcount=6

... nothing to report so far, the SOD's dont occur now and then.

Also found this one, but I'll try them one at a time... ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2

And found a mention that i could be related to the GSM or SD CARD or even a simple reset every day wouldnt let that problem appear.

And...

I'd also recommend prayer and listening to Enya. :/
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
Been using this "fix" for the SOD for some days now and didnt happenned once yet:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1315807&postcount=6

Two tips:

---------

- Treat the file like a simple CAB.

- The warning came in SMS form for me.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Thanks, did a search, noticed it happened with almost every rom, and all phones.

Can't point what is the problem, didn't have an SOD on my rom's but I didn't use all the software, so I made a full rom based on the latest build and nothing happened.

Maybe this helps: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5041977

You can chance the active sync value instead of 5 min to 300 min or more ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
It -appears- to be indeed a activesync issue on the latest WM6.5 versions.

The fix I mentioned is named "Disable Sync Schedule"...

And, like I said, didnt had any SOD's in 3 days.

Apparently a reset a day also helps to "reset" this issue, thats why I havent resetted for 3 days, to make sure its fixed.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Just edit my last post.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
Not comparing the fixes here, because we obviously need more time to see the final results, but my fix is much simpler to install, hehehe... :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
hello rataplan, i have using your kitchen to cook 28011 and until now i haven't face any SOD problem, don't know what cause it? but probably i have reset nike once a day.

do you has "can not power off" bug? how can i solved it? thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
No didn't solve the powerbutton issue, still seaching, did solve the battery issue and the comm manager issue, send you a link to test an update on 28008 before I release 28011, let me know what you think of it.

Enjoy your kitchen and if I solve the powerbutton I let you know.

About SOD, I don't have that problem to, but I think I found something that can be usefull, still testing. ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] deepankerjha:
Power prob

If someone is having a power problem,and loving the rom,why not to use a shut down cab.This contains softreser,sleep,shutdown and many more.made by tomcodon.sorry,if the name is spelled wrong.use search button and get it.

long live rataplan...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
I'm aware off the shutdown cab, but the real problem is a file called "PowerOffWarning.exe".

If that file isn't working, the cab's you install are useless.

So if someone find a file called PowerOffWarning.exe and copied that file to the windowsdirectory on the phone (use resco-explorer) and it works plse let me know and I cooked it in my rom.

I tried several but still get the message "Sorry, your device is not supported to be powered off.".

If I can't find a solution you have to remove the battery to power off. :(

For all tester's on my update plse send me a pm. :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] The Stranger:
I will test

Hi Rataplan,

I'm back in again, sold the Hi NIKI100 and all my previous problems are not relevant any more ( the scrambled 3G dialer ) get me self a wonderful iPhone - the best phone ever!

but.... recently I both a brand new original HTC DUAl, just for 30$

I could not let that go by..... :p

I cant help it, HTC Dual sucks, a nice toy to play / fool around with....

And here I'm to test your ROM...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] lqihuemc:
can you send this ROM(28008lite) to my email?because i can't download in my country .please !
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] lqihuemc:
my email:lqihuemc@gmail.com
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Kebapmann:
28008 update download not work

Hello

I try to download the update from the 28008 version but "The file link that you requested is not valid. "

whats wrong ?

greets from Austria
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Kebapmann:
Power off problem

Try to use the Power off notifacition.exe from 28002 build but it dont work ...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
@ The stranger

@ Kebapmann

@ lqihuemc

Thanks for testing and plse pm me if you found another bug than the powerbutton :(

Rataplan
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ebautista:
Hey sir, what's new and fixed in 28014?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
The only thing what is new is the build, it is just the latest release maybe the rom is a bit faster than the previous versions, for now all seem to work.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] syre:
build 28014 works nice.

little problems:

in setting -> system:

device information and the tool for hardrest are not available.

the internet explorer shortcut is missing in the start menu.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] deepankerjha:
Downloading 28014

Hi Pal

was out of town for a day.came back and saw ur new build.downloading now,will be back tomorrow with my feed back.

rgds
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Hi syre, thanks for testing, it's correct I didn't build in the device info, I think it is useless, the same with the hardreset. (I'm always using the buttons).

But I keep it in mind.

The internet explorer and also pictures is on the home-screen, I don't want to make the startmenu to big, maybe next build I add internet explorer on the startmenu, and delete something else :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Thanks as always :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
i've test your ROM, good until noww, not seeing any problem, can you please cook it with 3g dialer?it just kind of weird when you got a 3g phone with video calling ability but you can't do that because you have 2g phone canvas.

can you also please put backlight, power, keylock icon in setting, and also asked for device info. that's all for now. when update is available please tell me,i'll be beta tester :-)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
First of all, thanks for testing, okay I know I miss some stuff, that is because I want to release a rom as lite as possible so you can add your own stuff, you're the second one asking to put the device info back in the rom, I thought it doesn't give the phone something extra except the release date and my nickname, maybe in a next release.

Power is available, (just tap on the battery in the upper-screen) backlight is a good one didn't think about it, device lock I'm working on that one.

Just thinking to make a full rom, with 3g dialer and touchflo, but first I wanna do some icon-changing and that takes a lot of time because I'm not a graphical wonder, so I just have to search for complete icons and stuff to add in the rom.

If you do have suggestions for a full rom plse pm me, and send me a link for a cab so I can download it, and ask permission to use it. :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joannerve:
For some the hardreset application is better
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] wmn79:
I know Twolf has made an iconset for another rom so maybe he'll be so nice to help you out. He seems to be quite experienced in the graphical area.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joannerve:
still sleep death issue like the other roms
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] syre:
Can you please post the kitchen?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joannerve:
still sleep death issue on rataplan 28014 lite
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Why ? (not ment sarcastic, just asking)

I'm using it already, but still miss some icons, will send twolf a pm, hoping he has some spare time left.

Take a look in my 4shared folder, will post a link for rom and sys 28014 later today.

I will take a look at it again, don't have a problem on my own Nike

Thanks for testing. :):p;):D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
backlight, keylock and device lock and also power exe is already in your rom, i change that setting by running the exe directly from windows folder, so just add a shortcut to it, maybe you can categorized the shortcut into some folder for easy navigating. and also don't forget to add a calculator shortcut. how can a htc with windows mobile but don't have a simple calculator :-)

I myself prefer lite rom, with some usefull stuff inside it, so we have many storage space left to add our own apps into it.

For addon on your rom, i suggest you make with some stuff added like 3g is a must (maybe you can cook 2 version 2g and 3g like insomnia), 16key insomnia keyboard to get nike hardware keypad working, dotfred task manager, a manila version, total commander, soft reset button, at contact for titanium, chome editor for titanium, m2dc for manila, mortscript, ok that is for now.

keep developing guyz :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] deepankerjha:
Good one

Hi pal

nice rom.apart froma few bugs things r ok.i will suggest u to give links for some useful cabs,so that other people can use them with ur rom.

and come up with a manila version also.

regards
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Thanks for your list, it's a lot of work but I give it a try, I know a lot off stuff is available in the windows directory, but I think I have too add more shortcuts to the programlist to make it a lot easier to work with.

I also prefer a rom as lite as possible but I just want to add the most usefulls apps in it (for myself I don't even use bluetooth).

About a full rom with 3g and manilla, working on that one. But when I take a look at dtrain's Insomnia roms I just noticed I am far away from that.

He make's better roms than htc and microsoft together.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Thanks deepankerjha, try to post some links on the first page, just have to search where I found them over the past months. ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
why i'm still facing sleep of death on this?how can i resolve it?

please include 3g dialer in your next release even in lite version, thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] deepankerjha:
hi pal

tried a lot to upload the screenshot of my new rom.but failed.please check my avtaar for the same.

sorry and regards
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
I'm trying to add a 3g dialer in the rom, but the one I choose is corrupted, so I try to found another one (plse help me searching) about your SOD, it is a strange problem it happens with all roms (original and common) and with all kind of HTC phones, the biggest problem for you is that I don't have that issue at all.

I only can make suggestions but I'm not sure if it will helps but we can give it a try.

1. Uncheck Home timeout (start/settings/home/items)

2. Uncheck On battery power (It's in the battery setting under advanced)

3. Read the post 65 to 69 in this thread (maybe twolf solution works also for you)

4. Keep me informed :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Perfect, you finally did it, great :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
for 3g dialers, maybe you can get it from d_train insomnia kitchen @ http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=497402

please can you write the detail about your full ROM?what is include in it?thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Hmm, thks for the tip, about the dialer, details and screenshots will be posted asap.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mashalzhang:
Hi Host:

i'm very like this rom that u upload version 28014 lite,but im just come form China,in my country,i can't open your URL what version 28014Full with that server,i just wish to get this rom,can you change the other stroage server to upload the ROM file,pls help me,tks.

THE A4DRIVER Storage Server may be OK,i could download items form it

Etc:why the 28014lite can't sync data with PC by USB connection,my PC is use the Win7 System and install the Microsoft Mobile Center,I can't find the setting just like 'USB To PC' form the setting ->connection panal like the other version,may be they are intergated version,pls help me,tks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] LaBarreMars:
Thanks again for your work Rantanplan !

Does the 28014 version resolve the no task manager issue ?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
I make a mirror for the 28014F, about your sync problem, try to reinstall MMC, for me it's working.

Mirror on the first page
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Not really an issue, it is in the windows folder so you can create a shortcut :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] deepankerjha:
manila

hey pal

can u plz tell me about the latest version of manila 2d available for qvga.

rgds
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
still no detail from 28014 full rom?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Sorry, my fault, just working on other builds will upload it later today.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Later today, I will upload my 4-shared folder with the manilla build I'm using and pass the link to you.

If that is what you mean. :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mashalzhang:
Hi :

Tks 4 u upload the mirror to me, i just already downloaded the ROM,and flash to my niki,and the test is many time it was run ok,it was very speed, include the startmenu,programs,SMS,this rom is the best speed before i seen

BUT i just have a big problem, i use my GSM service by CMCC(China mobile) and use the EDGE with GPRS(today later i will try the CU-China Union WCDMA),when the GPRS-EDGE was linked,i use any program to access the internet(whatever WAP or WEB),when i close the screen out of 5 minues,the niki could not be opened again

i update the Radio ver 1.65.24.58 orignal and 1.65.29.26K

now i will try to upload the ver 1.71K

if it be change,i will tell you
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Keep me informed
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] mashalzhang:
scince now, i already update 1.71 radio and test some software to access the internet,also close the screen,wait a long time,the mobile phone isn't down

so i think radio v.1.71K may be solve this pro

etc: the phone's assistant camra couldn't display form the camra interface,is that the version of camra software low or others problem
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] euplio:
Rataplan can you translate this rom in italian??? PLEASE.......
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
It sounds like a radio-problem but I'm not sure because it should work with the 1.71 radio version, maybe you have to flash an original rom first and then my rom sometimes that makes the difference.

Btw I am using radio 1.65.29.22 and I don't have any problem with my camera.

Regards
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
I wish I could, I will try it next year to make more languases of my rom for now just try salvy.c rom's, he builds very nice Italian roms.

Regards
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] euplio:
i have already salvy's rom but i'm sure yours is the best;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Thanks euplio, do you think it is possible to upload your original Italian rom, I cannot find one.

Regards
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] euplio:
if you want I can help you translate this fantastic rom into Italian. but you must give me the necessary ;)tools ...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] eeeeeh:
Nice work with the full ROM...

Works great. Just wondering, is there a CAB for the 20keys keyboard in the full ROM that i can install onto the lite ROM? I like that keyboard.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Thks eeeeeh, yep there is just look in d-trains thread here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=497347

Regards
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
how your work with 3g dialer?is it completed?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
It's finished, just do some tests and upload it tommorow :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] eeeeeh:
Thanks Rataplan. In the first post your screenshot of the keyboard in the full ROM seems different to that of d-train's post. Is that the same CAB?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
good that will be a new year gift from you to all of us here :-)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] veil80:
Problem Running Nav-n-Go iGO

Just installed the ROM + 20 key keypad support. Works fast stable.

An issue: iGO 7 & 8 won't run - just tap on the exec/shortcut and nothing happens - the application just don't start. Please help!

Minor issues:

* When clicking YouTube link from Opera, instead of running the clip through media player / other player it claims that there is no program associated with file type.

* The weather does not update on the home menu, claiming "no data" although successfully working on the weather tab

Thanks, keep up the good job.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
I'm not sure, I don't use d-trains cab :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
It will be hard for me to test because I don't use iGO, the other issue's are solved on my next release.

Almost finished will upload it later today.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] veil80:
iGO + blackout issue

iGO 8 torrent: http://dl5.torrentreactor.net/downl...go+8+-+FINAL+FULL+++CRACK+(+working+licence+)

An interesting observation on device blackout issue brought up earlier in this thread: I discovered a correlation between the phenomena and MSN money widget. The blackout happened twice in an hour while MSN money was running and stopped happening when I killed the application.

When the bug occurs, the Niki does not respond to short press of power button (to wake it up). However the device is alive and the leds are blinking. When happens, only soft reset resolves the issue.

Maybe the MSN money widget generates 3G traffic from time to time causing the problem?

Using radio 1.71.

Thanks.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Thanks for your reply, just started updating a new release so I stopped updating and see if there is any relation between this issue's.

About iGO, I know how I can download a torrent but be aware that it is not allowed to post illegal links in the post just keep that it mind if you don't wanna get banned.

It is nothing personal it is just not allowed.

For now I'm gonna check my builds and see if the sod is related as you mentioned above.

Thanks :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] veil80:
Got you man.

Thanks.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] veil80:
iGo issue resolved - iGo ver. >8.3 is required to run on WM 6.5.

I saw a post on disabling M2D to allow earlier versions to run - did not check it.

Rataplan, the new ROM shots look terrific! Did not check them yet.

Did you manage to figure out the blackout issue?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] veil80:
P.S.

Happy New Year! Keep up your great work!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] youngsien:
23517 is out? it is a full ROM?not a lite one? can you list included apps?why it is not a 28xxx series? 28xxx is the newest platform i think, am i right?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Thks for the tip about iGo, saves me a lot of work, about the blackout or SOD, can't really check it because I don't have that issue, I'm still searching for a real solution because it happens on all sort of rom's and all kind of htc phones.

Thanks, same to you and keep testing ;)

Rataplan
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Until now 23517 and 21620 are the latest builds, didn't see an update on 28014.

But if there is just let me know.

List included apps follows in approx. 1 hour.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] boli:
do you plan a new rom with titanium?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Titanium is in it just uncheck Touchflo under start/setting/home/items and check windows default
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] veil80:
Meanwhile downgraded to Insomnia build 23081, the blackout issue does not seem to exist there.

Is 23517 actually a later build than 28014?

I thought these are increasing build indexes...

Another question - what is the difference between 2G and 3G builds?

Thanks.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
It is not really a downgrade, d-train just make's perfect roms, about the build I have that question before just see post 58 of this thread, don't look at the numbers because htc and microsoft makes both new releases. For now 23517 and 21620 are the latest releases, the only thing I do is take a look at the build-date, so that is why this is the latest build. :)

Not much only with 3G you can make a videocall, I don't use it but people asking for it thats why I try to make them.

About the SOD, I had that questions before it is also in this thread, I believe post 61 and above, there are some tips maybe that is usefull for you otherwise try to flash an original rom first and then my rom.

Until there is no real solution I don't think it is worth to spend a lot of time in registry-editing if I'm not sure it will solved all the problems.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] phantom007:
hi, thanx for the rom..

looks great..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Thanks for using my rom :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] phantom007:
thx for the fast response..

i have just read it..

i edited my post :D