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[HD2 Accessories] tex777:
I've tested two capacitive styli with the HD2, see vid here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtgHCqZuJuw

The Pogo Sketch has a thick tip, kinda like a another finger.. The Dagi has a dot in the middle which hits correct around 80% of the times. Not perfect but if needed better than fingers!

I will definitively use the dagi when doing remote desktop work with the HD2. Until either the HTC stylus is released or Logmein/VNC apps change the way the cursor works. More like the iphone counterparts, move the desktop instead of the mouse etc. Seem more finger friendly.
[HD2 Accessories] maati:
"This video is not available in your country"
[HD2 Accessories] tex777:
Yeah, Germany isn't allowed to watch the vid because of the background music.. says Youtube. Gotta redo the music tomorrow, sorry!
[HD2 Accessories] bumskee:
yeap! I ordered dagi ones for painting. can't wait..
[HD2 Accessories] wacky.banana:
Where did you buy this from please?

Thanks

WB
[HD2 Accessories] tex777:
Ebay!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280421601875&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

It's from dagi themselfs I think. I ordered two and got 1 free :) Plus fast and cheap shipping.
[HD2 Accessories] jah:
Great find, many thanks
[HD2 Accessories] maati:
Thanks a lot!
[HD2 Accessories] fards:
I just made my own capacitive stylus :D

two experiments.

I took a small valve adaptor that's used to inflate a football (soccer) ball. filled the hollow part of the fat end with foil to come out just past the end of the screw on part.

then cover the end entire end with foil, and press the entire lot in really hard. Smooth the foil down (rub it on a piece of wooden laminate floor, your jeans what ever).

alternatively using a pencil with a rubber(eraser) on the end of it.

Cover with silver kitchen foil, leave enough foil up the shaft to make contact with your fingers. Smooth the foil down on the end.

Both seem to work fine, I prefer the shorter valve option.

*** Tested using the great Dynaink.
[HD2 Accessories] billpool:
Hello:

I've been using this one I got from amazon.com and it works just fine...

http://tenonedesign.com/stylus.php I bought this one from amazon.com

Take care
[HD2 Accessories] wacky.banana:
Interesting thread this.

However I find an irony in the fact that for years we have all been hassling for finger friendly devices and apps. As soon as we get one what do we do?

Yes, we go find a stylus to work with it! :)

Funny.

WB
[HD2 Accessories] bumskee:
it's only because the WM apps aren't finger friendly yet.. HD2 being the first.. but I am sure lots of apps will follow..
[HD2 Accessories] tex777:
Posted a follow up video with some drawing in outlook/notes with the Pogo & Dagi stylus. And some different angle shots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNlnguERZ4g
[HD2 Accessories] eskasi:
Quite frankly, the finger test at the end (after both the stylus ones) won outright!
[HD2 Accessories] tex777:
Yep, but you can't get as detailed as with the Dagi. But the problem of the Dagi is that the HD2 sometimes registers something outside of the red dot. Which means broken lines...
[HD2 Accessories] Archer:
I've had both the Pogo and the Dagi styluses, and found them both pretty useless to be honest.

The Pogo one stuttered quite a lot, and I found I couldn't slide the unlock on the phone with it, as it just kept letting go.

The Dagi one is better, but takes a suprising amount of pressure to work (I do have a screen protector on, but it's only made a tiny difference to sensitivity when using my fingers).

I'll probably try the HTC one when (if) it gets released. The only reason I want a stylus is for legacy apps that pretty much require one. I can handle using Aurora (for example), but it's much easier with a stylus.

Incidentally (off topic), if you've not seen Aurora, check it out below. It's soooo cool!

http://www.4pockets.com/product_info.php?p=125
[HD2 Accessories] Xzeven:
Hmm, how bout this?

I was having a chat with HTC just a minute ago and they sent me a beautiful photo of their latest Stylus. Im quite impressed :D
[HD2 Accessories] jah:
Same experience here, really does not work. I was hoping to use it for line drawings in Notes app.
[HD2 Accessories] kjt57:
If you look at some sites that are advertising "the official HTC stylus coming soon" the picture is exactly the same as the Dagi........
[HD2 Accessories] jah:
Anyone seen or used this stylus? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/P14-1-X-Stylu...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL?hash=item35a553096f
[HD2 Accessories] Jack Daniel's:
I bought the Dagi stylus and I'm quite pleased with it.

It works surprisingly well.

But I only use it if I need to write a lot of text or operate checkboxes.

Not for everyday use.
[HD2 Accessories] danielherrero:
I bought it just for try. I used several minutes but is useless for me. I ve installed swype and I can write very very very fast :)
[HD2 Accessories] Keethos:
I've just received my DAGi through the post and after using it a bit....didn't quite like it. Its annoying that you have to keep the disc flat to the screen for the dot to be near target, you can use about 50% of the disc and it'll still work, just won't necessarily be where you want it. Because of this...I find it very hard to draw a smooth line, cos if I don't keep the disc flat, the line with jump all over the shop.

Anyone know how this stylus works and would it continue to work if I was to reduce the area of the disc, i.e. make the round disc smaller so less contact and hopefully more precision?
[HD2 Accessories] harky:
those pen are to big too trouble to bring out..

i hope that is a kind of thin one
[HD2 Accessories] cayotte:
Me too bought one from Dagi, and I have to say that it's simple useless.

Better to use finger.
[HD2 Accessories] moooxooom:
Try doing something like excel, or fill in some form in Opera or IE. Finger is impossible. I spent 30min on a page filling up some silly form because every time I made a wrong selection, it'll reload the entire page, and I'll have to scroll about 10 pages down the selections again.

That said, this is the trouble with capacitive touch screens. You need a large enough contact area for the screen to register a "touch".

I still don't understand (apart from the easier implementation of multi-touch) why everyone thinks it's superior technology. sigh.
[HD2 Accessories] tkalli:
Capacitive Stylus for HD2

Ordered 2 Capacitive Stylus for HD2 from Hong Kong.

$3.49 Free Shipping.

HTC Stylus is +/-$25.00

Will let you know how it works when it arrives.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170426992190

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[HD2 Accessories] denizenx:
because Apple sold many many iPhones, and everyone hopes to copy the alchemist's ingredients...
[HD2 Accessories] daniel_1983x:
i got exactly the same stylus

it doesnt work well at all

only suitable for tapping, not sliding and dragging
[HD2 Accessories] orenxda:
well, large glass isn't fingerprint friendly!

do capacitive compatible "Finger Tip Mount" like intec or daydeal true tip exist?
[HD2 Accessories] eshd:
To use silver foil is a good good way. I did some experiments with it.

The problem I had, the contact-area must be flat and not to small.

By the way: I got the best result with a small potato (without foil).

An apple or a mandarin also works great, but not the small end of a peperoni.

Now I am looking for the smallest potato I can find :-)

Ernst
[HD2 Accessories] Keethos:
When you say not too small...how small would too small be? I.e. whats the minimum diameter would the end need to be for it to still function as a stylus?
[HD2 Accessories] eshd:
I got quit good results with a diameter of 6 mm.

I tested this with a very plain ALU-screw and with the head

of a nail covered with ALU-foil. The best results I got with

a plain ALU-pod of a pencil.

I can not understand, why HTC provides the HD2 without a styli,

and I hope they come around with a good one.

I had the OrbitI before, and it was not (only) a toy, but a very

powerful tool in my work as an engineer.

The HD2 is much more powerful, but for some work, the new

handling is the reverse of an improvement.

Ernst
[HD2 Accessories] tkalli:
Originally Posted by tkalli

Capacitive Stylus for HD2

Ordered 2 Capacitive Stylus for HD2 from Hong Kong.

$3.49 Free Shipping.

HTC Stylus is +/-$25.00

Will let you know how it works when it arrives.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170426992190

Your right. They just arrived and aren't that great.

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[HD2 Accessories] n4v1n:
Maybe the reason these styli are a fail, is because it can not match the change in capacitance that our fingers can supply. Maybe a battery powered solution (idk how it would be implemented) would fare better.
[HD2 Accessories] spirgas:
Hey

Hey guys, didn't you reduced screens sensitivity with tweaks? Like BsB tweaks or others. When i turned off reduction of sensitivity, my dagi stylus works quite well. So you might check this issue.
[HD2 Accessories] tuckfook:
DAGI Stylus

I bought one of those and was initially quite happy until it stopped working. Email to DAGI went unanswered.

Having a close look at the DAGI stylus and experimenting with the stylus gave me the following conclusions.

1 the stylus is nothing special... Not Magnetic, Not capacitive, Non active.

2 it uses a conductive aluminium semi circle at the bottom of the transparent circular section. The alu. looks like it may have been sputtered on to the plastic.

3 the reason for my stylus failure is because of my wiping the transparent circular section of the stylus too often. The conductive alu. came off !!!

Solution: glue a piece of alu. foil to replace the alu. rubbed off.

Conclusion: Not worth the money though it is relatively cheap.

Do Not Buy because DAGI will not respond to email.
[HD2 Accessories] Shadowdh:
Got one of each of these as well... after some testing and usage I have found that;

Pogo type... not great for writing at all... drawing is similarly rubbish, good for pressing but then my finger can do the same job there... cost about £3 and looks cheap in construction... simple pad of black spongy stuff at the end of a plastic rod...

Dagi slim line cap stylus... much much better... writing is much easier (even compared to finger) and its pretty simple to use after some practice... construction seems sturdier and its not as blocky/bulky as the other... works fine for me...
[HD2 Accessories] supertammy:
i just bought a couple of dagi stylus and am very happy with them. i made the order straight through their web site via sir jaime and he was very friendly and accommodating!

made the order and even had the laser engraving done on the stylus and it turned out very nice indeed.

the stylus was really built for the capacitative screen, really a great help! it was sensitive and for me it replaces the use of the finger. easy to use, lightweight and most of all sensitive.

i tested it with my hd2 as well as my wife's iphone and my friend's blackberry and it was as advertised.

i even tested it on non-capacitative screen (i used the tip of the base) and it worked like an ordinary stylus.

just my personal experience on the dagi stylus.
[HD2 Accessories] hop-a-long:
I am told that the Dagi P005 and P501 do not need human touch in order to work. Can anybody clarify this for me ?

I need a pen to use on a capacitive screen that does not require human touch - for the pen or phone.

cheers.
[HD2 Accessories] Fame123:
Hi

Has anyone bought/seen or used this stylus from ebay? 2 X NEW STYLUS TOUCH PEN FOR HTC HD2 UK STOCK NEXT DAY

Many Thanks.
[HD2 Accessories] misterlim:
damnit i wished i had read this before i ordered my pogo sketch.....
[HD2 Accessories] dubidu:
Fame123:

I bought two styles from some other seller which basically have the same rubber pointer as the ones you show.

If you hold the the stylus with the upper clip pointing to the pda it works quite well

something like this:

don't get amazed by my impressive painting capabilities 8)
[HD2 Accessories] misterlim:
my pogo sketch just arrived from amazon! i'm quite pleased by how quickly my package came :) but after a few minutes of playing with it, i'm quite disappointed by the stylus...it's useless! i've already put it back it's packaging. guess i'll give it to someone as a gift maybe they'll find a better use for it.. i had such high hopes too... :(
[HD2 Accessories] angel1341uk:
A lot of people like to have a stylus for drawing - IMO.

Not sure if these 2 actually work. As I haven't searched properly for any reviews. They seem pretty good though, even at an angle

I can't post links so if anyone is interested I'll just add the end of the links for youtube.

youtube video 1 watch?v=fKG7kP70CIQ - Don't know what this one is called, as the man says he came up with idea and only gives his email address in the video ($20 for a stylus I think it was)

youtube video 2 watch?v=uDuuBlsn2sE - This if I remember correctly, is called the iwand.

Just thought I'd post, see what people think. I might get one for my ipod, not sure though.
[HD2 Accessories] Fame123:
Hi Dubidu

So u reckon its worth going for yeah? by the way like ur artistic paint work, did u do that with the stylus u bought?

thanks
[HD2 Accessories] dubidu:
Sorry for the delay 8) I was out for a week testing the HD2 on a trip 8)

I think it's worth the 2 quid they may cost.

It works better if you hold the phone in one hand and use the stylus with the other, when using the stylus having the hd2 sitting on a table it doesn't react well.

I use it with apps like TotalCommander which small windows style objects, and it does the job.

My magnificent drawing was done in paintbrush, the stylus wont work, the pointer is far too thick and been flat is nearly impossible to drag it through the screen. Still, as you can see, me + paintbrush + mouse is like Michelangelo plus a big dome and some paint 8)
[HD2 Accessories] DuperMan:
ACHTUNG!!!

They both look like scams.

The first seller's video features the narrator lying about the way styluses work when touching the screen sideways yet offers no proof the product does anything special. The "if it looks like it didn't register a touch I'm just not touching the glass" bit is hilarious. :D

The second seller's website is a throwback to 1996 - not something you'd expect from the illustrious discoverers of whatever "stylus technology breakthrough" they're delusional to have made.

More importantly, who in their right would trust the kind of douches that disable YouTube commenting for their products' videos? Heh:) They both did just that.

I hope these con-men didn't fool you into buying their crap:)

DuperMan
[HD2 Accessories] mahjong:
I bought the Dagi P501 (plus the Pogo Sketch and the Milano-And-You) in mid July. I filmed a couple of videos to show that Dagi was more accurate.

Now... by the end of September... the Dagi stop working like others users reported.

I just send an email to the seller at Dagi.com.tw to find out what I did wrong.

Those are the videos:

Comparing the three stylus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aowaefk1spU

Showing Dagi's accuracy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKTeDBo3t1Y

The second one is in spanish but has Youtube subtitles in english. Remember that you cannot see the subtitles in the HTML5 browser.

If any other Dagi user found a solution or reason let me know.
[HD2 Accessories] grgczyz:
Hi,

Maybe Nokia's capacitive stylus will be better?

Look here:

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/nokia-capacitive-stylus-su-39-p26348.htm

What do you think?
[HD2 Accessories] shein:
Tweaking is needed

Pogo is useless.

Dagi's one is not bad. You just need to buy the one with 9.5. I got 6 mm tip and the first experience was bad. Stylo barely worked.

After messing for couple of hours with HKLM\Hardware\Settings\TouchPanel and HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings I dramatically increased the sensitivity of the screen. After that the accuracy and experience is close to resistive screen.

Also the accuracy and speed for finger typing increased a lot.

In many tweaking guides there is a recommendation to decrease HD2 screen sensitivity. I believe this was valid for first products where there were hypersensitivity issue. I strongly believe that much higher sensitivity is desirable. I suggest no to apply any decreased sensitivity tweaks.
[HD2 Accessories] WarlockW:
Acase Apple iPad Capacitive Stylus (Jet Black)

Acase Apple iPad Capacitive Stylus (Jet Black)

Check this one out .. works really well and is kinda like plastic so it slides really well :)

This stylus is a much more practical device for normal sized (man's) hands. The pogo stylus is thin, small, and much to light - I would get cramps in my hand with using it for more than five minutes or so.

Another plus compared to the pogo sketch is the clip. On the pogo - it's a cheap piece of plastic with broke quickly.

On the Acase stylus it is a metal clip... doubt this will break anytime soon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ULE6GU/ref=oss_product

List Price: $24.95

Price: $9.04
[HD2 General] -Vulture-:
Hi there!

Ive seen the new shortcuts on the homescreen on every video again and again. The number of programs you can add there is extensible but limited. So is there an "All Programs" button like on previous TouchFlo versions on the programs tab or at least a possibility to see all programs installed? Maybe im blind or have forgotten about it but i think i havent seen something like this on any video.

Thanks!

Phil
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Sadly, it doesn't exist. I have been asking around if anyone can port the old Manila 2.1 start menu and program tab over yet, but no one has responded to say yes it can be done :(
[HD2 General] -Vulture-:
Damnit...so theres no scrollable list with all programs installed on the device in Sense anymore? Really no way?
[HD2 General] Dr.Sid:
Isn't WM 6.5 start menu about the same ?
[HD2 General] KrewCial:
Yes and I believe that's exactly the reason why the programs tab is gone.
[HD2 General] -Vulture-:
Yeah, could be the reason for it. But a bad exchange if you ask me...but there are other programs out there that could be useful to me like TouchLaunch.
[HD2 General] William Hart:
The "All Programs" button in TouchFlo just went to an icon view of the "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" folder - This is exactly what tapping the "Start" button in WM-6.5 now does.
[HD2 General] omniajet13:
a great alternative for this is a program called launchpad which gives you a program launcher from the taskbas star shortcut but also give you the normal windos shotcut fron the hard key below. try it you wont be dissapointed:D
[HD2 General] sputnik64:
from 4pda.ru forum

1. disable manila

2. delete key HKLM>Software>HTC>Manila>Configuration, if exists

3. install the cab

4. delete ManilaFull.xml from /Windows

5. SR

6. enable manila

thanks to jamrecords

sorry for my english:)
[General Questions and Answers] se1988:
I have searched Xda for an answer to this question, but no luck... So here goes:

When i set up my live synchronization to synchronize "when items arrives" it will notify new received mail by sound every time. But that sucks the life out of the battery pretty fast, as it is constantly connected to the server trying to update new mail...

When i set it to sychronize every 15 or 30 minutes it wont notify me with sound at all! I want to be notified regardless of the synchronization frequency! Is there any way to do so? I have found no other way than installing 3rd-party software, and that is somewhat out of the question...

FYI my phone is a Kaiser (unbranded) with WinMo 6.1 stock ROM.

I also have the same problem on both my Hermes, both with WinMo 6.0 stock ROMs.

Please help?
[General Questions and Answers] se1988:
sorry for spamming, but is there actually NO solution for this??
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] phreni:
I just unlocked with coke 2.31 & NFSFAN's 6.5 21864 SYS/XIP V1.00 GENERIC CARRIER ROM, did the carrier cab etc. everythings working great except I can't seem to get the GPS working. Am I not patient enough... I've tried google maps & naviComputer and it just keeps saying searching. I also ran "Turn aGPS Off" so I wouldn't have to rely on data plan.

In GPS veiwer lots of numbers etc. come up, but it won't get my location (maybe I don't know how to use this) What do I need to do yet to get GPS working?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] ss0mohit:
hmm.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=78560

this thread should help you. :)
[G1 Android Development] eugene373:
Eclair AOSP20

WIPE UPDATE

*change*

Exchange added Back in By Demand

-Moto Cal

-MoTo Gal

* These Apps will Drain You Battery, Which was why they was removed*

Eclair AOSP19

*Changes*

*Must Wipe Before Installing*

-CC / Swap Working

-Youtube Working only By Data. Youtube Will NOT WORK OVER WIFI!

-SU should no longer Hang as before.

-Auto Zipalign, Working in AOSP18, Just forgot to post it.

-Removed MoTO Cal

-Removed MoTo Gal

-Add in myspace

-Fixed a few Config problems.

-Speed tweaks

-Few Other things I can't remember now!

-Trackball Glows with Exchange per new Mail, pending your setup config.

Eclair AOSP18

*Must Wipe Before Installing*

*CHanges*

-Fixed Power Issue's

-Ramdisk Edit's

-CPU Scaling Fixed

-Minor speed Tweeks

-Wired Tether Added

Download For Eclair AOSP

First Legal Release
[G1 Android Development] eugene373:
No because it still an issue with the calendar provider. even with it turned off it still hangs due to it.
[G1 Android Development] bolmedias:
Okay, this still looks pretty good.

Also, what is the recommended size for the linux-swap?
[G1 Android Development] vache:
Boot loop at the android logo.

Log @http://pastebin.com/m61ed3020
[G1 Android Development] sassyness77:
gallery

Im flashing this right now, report back when im done but i was wondering when e will see gallery in an ecair? or is that something were waiting for like camera, new drivers?
[G1 Android Development] kingklick:
wowow great work eugene

just checked out your ramdisk, I REALLY like what you've done.

I will most likely use it in my build and obviously give proper credit where it is due :D
[G1 Android Development] asifqabil:
bootloop at the droid logo.why ?..
[G1 Android Development] Freshmaker82:
Same boot loop issues, will wait until this becomes more stable, great work EUGENE.
[G1 Android Development] lolmensch:
standard answer:

did you wipe?

did you also wipe your ext2/3?
[G1 Android Development] Dyonas:
Same here, boot loop on the "Droid" logo. I was watching with logcat and I have no idea if this is relevant but it gets to this then starts over just after...

I/PackageManager( 175): No current settings file!
W/PackageManager( 175): Running ENG build: no pre-dexopt!
W/PackageManager( 175): Library not found: /system/framework/com.google.android.datamessaging.jar
D/PackageManager( 175): Scanning app dir /system/framework
I/PackageManager( 175): /system/framework/framework-res.apk changed; collecting certs

Standard answer to usual question - yes full wipe done, even went in to clear out manually just in case.
[G1 Android Development] droiddv:
Eternal boot loop!!!
[G1 Android Development] kwhalen:
Same boot loop on droid logo on MT3G. Full wipe and repartition.
[G1 Android Development] diaztradeinc:
Also getting bootloop, hmm was really hoping to test this.
[G1 Android Development] nazforex:
same boot loop
[G1 Android Development] Breakthecycle2:
His previous version installed and worked fine. I have been running it all day.
[G1 Android Development] Dyonas:
Key word there is "previous", how about this version have you tried it? If not then any previous version has nothing to do with it. Things break with changes.
[G1 Android Development] eugene373:
I broke The a2sd , will have it fixed shortly.

Works fine if you remove rm 2 in adb.
[G1 Android Development] RodrigoKim:
ahh i reformatted my sdcard and ROM installed a minute before you posted that hahaha.

oh well, thanks for the heads up, will do that and report back!
[G1 Android Development] jenol:
so this version with broken a2sd is causing the bootloop?
[G1 Android Development] alwaysbelieve1:
I know the autosync gets stuck on the calendar, but my question is why must we turn off the entire autosync? Can't we just simply turn off the calendar and still have Gmail autosync? Yes?