yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
I do not think it's strictly hardware related.

The volume buttons can change the volume of the in-call speaker as well, and they are connected to the system volume as well (ringtones, mp3 player, whatever) which is in turn related to the software aspect of the phone.

Hence, there must be a software hook somewhere to get the speaker audio to be recorded.

Or in the very worst of cases, there MUST be a way to wire a "faux" headset in a way so the audio output of the other person, coming from the 3.5" jack, can be sent back to the microphone thru the same specially wired jack, in order to get the other person directly on the microphone as well.

After all the standard wired headset is uniquely wired for both your voice and the voice of the other person.

Hardware wiring through the jack may be UGLY, but it surely as heck would work, and most probably it's possible to build a specially wired jack with passthrought audio, that is you can transparently speak with a normal headset, still having the other person's voice being sent back to the local microphone.

Thoughts anyone? It's mathematic that the hardware solution is possible, I'm just not so good with circuitry anymore ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ianjnb:
Hi Seeraeber

I installed Laurentius26 on my HD2 and in-call recording still does not work. I installed Vito AudioNotes but it is still recording through the speaker, resulting in the quality of the recording of the other person still being very poor.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
I just tested with the first incoming call after installation.

The other person's voice is low-quality only volume-wise IMO, and no, didn't test in crawded/loud environment yet, but if you talk inside a "normally bruisy" environment, then it's pretty much ok as long as you can pump up the volume :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DrBasem:
ooooh!

I tried everything and still nothing works sans Laurentius26's ROM V1 (not bad but also not as good as it was on HD)

I wonder, why this issue on Leo is not interesting to the Devs who made the recording work for other devices?

what a big let-down ! :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seeraeuber:
sorry - double post
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seeraeuber:
poor quality-vito-HD2 2wayCallrecords

Dear ianjnb - thxs for the info, mate (I hope a workaround could be found here ...)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MegaMatze:
So who has a guide on how to install ICR on the Touch Pro2?

The Reg way only makes it possible on one way and the ICR with the nice button in the menu doesn't start because it misses any certificate or something?!? Who can help?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pooh4o:
You're in HD2 section. Search Touch Pro2 section in the forum or try to google ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] orbite:
Confirmation of Incall recording on HD2

Dear All member!

I have tried follow the guide above, and the voice from the called is more clearer than before. I think It can work, someone can try it.

otherwise, HD2 have 02 mic, one in the bottom and one is near the volum key, sothat the voice can not move direct to primary mic like another HTC device, the voice separate in to 02 mic and make it lower than another HTC device. But after I try config like above, it more clearer.

I will try to make a call in next morning when I drive on the way which has more noise, and will report more.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
Yes please give us news regarding that :)

I installed ACR 1.2.3 and those reg changes are made on install, and I received a couple of calls today while being in somewhat of a noisy environment.

My voice is deafening high while the other party's one is really faint and disturbed, but nothing you cannot tune up in volume to make understandable to my language native speakers ;)

As I stated in one of my previous posts:

And I would still like to have opinions of the "experts" on this :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Calkulin:
You guys can try this version that works on my TP2 and see if it works on the HD2 also
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] superflyboy:
I tried it on my TyTnII, but the phone said that it couldn't find the folder "ICR"! :eek:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
is that your own app or it has a dev thread somewhere on XDA? Couldn't find it myself

Anyway, afaik there's still a link missing to the hook for incoming audio, so no matter the app you should oinly be able to record what comes to the microphone from the speaker's vibration
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Gandalf67:
This version of Vito Audio Notes works well. Not perfect but in caller voice quality is enough good. It's polish version but if You find it useful - google Your language version.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] madbird:
hi, i think you are perfectly right. anybody who think he has made incall recording work, can do a simple test. make a call start recording and then mute your microphone while the other person is speaking. play the recorded file and see if you hear somthing in the time your mic was muted. i hear nothing in the recorded file, no matter what solution i tried, it is only working when the sound came from the speaker to my microphone.

regard mad
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kostasalfa:
Yes you are right guys. I ve seen the AMAZING difference in my hd(1!).. Before the icr working cabs the recordings were just as now with an hd2!! After the working cabs the sound of the others voice was at least as loud as yours..

So as i said before, no reason to argue if it worked or not!

IT DIDNT YET!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
doesn't matter the app (which in your case is a paid one), unless the incoming voice is GOOD, then there's no "good enough" that matters, it's still coming from the microphone picking up vibrations.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] orbite:
Report for last post

Dear All!

Really, I am very dissapoited for my last post about the icr... I have tried in these days, and not success.... Because after I config the HKLM is the night and the voice in record very clear, but in the day time it not work....

PLEASE,,,, ALL PROFESSOR OF WINMOBILE. LOOKING FOR THE SOLUTION FOR HD2 IN CALL RECORDING... PLEASEEEEEEEE

BECAUSE MY JOB NEED TO RECORD THE INCAL ALOT,,, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SALE OUT MY HD2 TO BACK WITH HD OR ANOTHER...

AGAIN PLEASE HELPTHANKS
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
I don't think begging will help much :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] actionaer:
pls we need a incall recoreder
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hasan_abeer:
i hope that too much
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ianjnb:
Thanks Calcu8323 but "Calkulin’s In Call Recorder" doesn’t work on my HD2. I get a message: “The file ‘ICR’ cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate....."

Am I doing something wrong? Is there a file that I manually need to copy somehwere?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DrBasem:
what really gets on my nerves is all the fuss that once spread out that the new WM6.1 & WM6.5 were the secret as the 2-way voice recording functionality was a mere function of the software and it had nothing to do with the device made!! This turns out to be a pure fiction given the HD2 case.

It's also wierd that such a mighty device find no one interested in adding this value to it. No one of the Devs seems really interested in that (AFAIK).

Let's just hope !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
as I already stated in one of my previous posts, since you can modify incoming audio incall with volume button, that control must have a software hook. I simply don't believe that "it's a hardware issue you cannot do anything" is the reason behind all this.

On the other hand, you can't even be nervous because noone is thinking about improving this function in the phone ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Chino68:
excusse me if i missed this one

pardon me if it's already been written but i use the "livePVR" which is in the marketplace,. i use this with no problem recording both sides of the call

sorry if there is a thread already on this.

:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
is the voice of the other person speaking, good at least as your voice in the recorded file? Because if it is lower volume and very low quality, you are getting the same we do ;) Which incidentally is not full-duplex recording :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] coolape:
I was wondering if the radio's had anything to do with the volume of the caller on the other end being low? or isit purely hardware related?.. or are we all just baffled by this problem?

Just curious. and indeed I would like this function to work.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
radio is not the culprit, at least not apparantly, the problem is the impossibility, for now, to record directly the incoming voice, what programs do is recording just what comes through to the microphone from the speaker... it's the sound getting out ot the phone and back in with microphone ant that's why it's so feeble.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mmmalas:
tried it today,

didnt work well, only one way recording
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] woaloo:
Not working

I tried ICR HD in conjonction with resco audiorec, and it's not good, Only my voice is well record, the other is too "tiny"

I'm still searching.....

I can't understand why it works on TP2 and not on HD2.

Is it the Snapdragon fault ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DrBasem:
An expert's intervention is needed over here , BADLY :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MORES27:
I´m all right. We nedeed an espert dedication for solve the problem but I answer: No wavedev.dll changes?... in Diamond was wavedev.dll. In that order the question, No body experts working about?.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
on other forums someone use a strange cab called

2_Way_Plus_InCall_Recording (can find on google)

to enable recording of two voices during the call

but i do not know if it works on HD2...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MHoefler:
No, this does not work.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hasan_abeer:
@developers of xda ?

i think its time to review this thread in order to see what call recorder is importent to hd2 owners ,plz i promise any one can do this any one, i will donate with 50 euro via western union as i promise nrg in its rom thread ,and i hope others can promise here in order to help developers of in call recorder how spended time in order to upgrade either rom or app ,

so plz any news ?

im really now buy omnia 2 and use it while hd2 is in my unused devices !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks in advance and im sorry for my bad english language writing.

rgrds
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] rassien:
supporting call recording on LEO

i support you hassan, it is very important to have your device record calls to review any missing or if you forgot something, and moreover, if the other party is telling a phone number or address or something like that, you can go back to the recorded call and review it. and for lovers as well, to hear the voice of his beloved when he/she miss him/her (LOOOOOL) :p. keep moving ahead on this thread and make it working.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
nothing...no software company...no xda expert...no one can do nothing.

bump this post up....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] QuiXilver:
A mate of mine is using something on his Xperia. Will get more info. Watch this space.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ghalik:
For call record do this

Some of you might not be aware that Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional has its own, built-in, default in-call recording solution, it's just that it's not active by default. You don't need any other third party solutions, just need to enable it via some registry edits or with a cab we've put together to make the process automatic.

Method 1 - registry edit: Create a key called "AudioRecording" in "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\" and inside that key you've created, add a new dword called "Enabled" with a value of 00000001. Create a key called "Voice" inside "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft" and inside that new key create two dword entries called "EnableCallRecordMenuItem" and "AllowInCallRecording", both with the same value of 00000001. Soft reset your device and you're set!

Method 2 - install our cab: Download the automated process and install it to device, followed by a soft reset.

Successfull activation of native in-call recording will put a "Record" option in your in call soft menu. Tapping "Record" will record from that point on and save the wave format file you've just recorded to Device\My Documents\Notes.

Note: Device has to be application unlocked for this to work. Tested with HTC Touch HD, HTC Touch Pro and HTC Touch Diamond. AND

HD2
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] steveianson:
Thanks for the info. ghalik

I have done a search..... give us a clue as to where the .cab file is
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
that is not news at all... those registry keys are automatically created by ACR 1.2.3 when you install it, but that still leaves you with very poor incoming audio quality since there is no direct recording of the other person's voice, but just of what comes of it through the internal microphone.

So that is not a solution at all...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
true..

enabled call recording ,but i can ear only my voice..

we are at start again!

Vito tec. (in audio notes) say to enable spekearphone in hd2

it is only way!

i think they are right!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] starbase64:
Hi,

this is not working on HD2.

with friendly greet

starbase64
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Sky Forever:
me too... 50 euro for person, who enable 2-way
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] anne_ketty:
Emergency solution

One "solution" if you really need call recording is to use the VoIP-application "AGEphone" that supports just that. Both sides are recorded with good quality. To do that you need a SIP-account with an operator and some kind of unlimited data plan (via Wifi or 3G).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
having alternatives is always a good thing, but that would be quite the ungodly workaround wouldn't it :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hasan_abeer:
@ developers of xda

have a look here please:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5814357&postcount=707

rgrds
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] MORES27:
+50€ too. I´ll donate that... if 2 way for HD2. ;-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seeraeuber:
+25,-- €

will donate 25,-- € for an easy and proper - 2wayRecording app (.cab if possible) without ennoying beeps. Would make my month, at least. Regards
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dneto:
BUMP :D

Until now 100 Euros.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seeraeuber:
Dear ianjnb - thxs for the info - UNFORTUNATELY - I DEARLY WANT THE 2WAY-RECORDING POSSIBILITY ON HTC LEO!!!!

I already rewarded any chef who ´s able to find an easy and practicable working solution with € 30,-- (approx. $ 50,--) and will keep my word. Regards
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dneto:
Please BUMP!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DrBasem:
Suggestion

Could anyone (with proper previllages) change the

thread title

to make it visible that donations are promised when the software is developed?

i guess many people would open the first page and just walk by when they find no link to a proggie!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] carmendel:
I need any solution, conclusion that I´ll donate 50€ for it. ;)

I vote for change de Title of thread :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hasan_abeer:
i vote also for changing the Title of thread and also i promise for donation 75 euro for in call recorder to be excuted.

rgrds
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Sky Forever:
+1 for change Title and question for moderators to stick this theme!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seeraeuber:
Change Title - make it Sticky - Donate as promised!

Change Title - make it Sticky - Donate as promised! Regards & Please Chefs: Get it done!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] a771la:
in my rom this cab working :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dneto:
Can you give more details? How this cab works and settings if existent. :D

Regards,

And MODs: PLEASE , change title.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] maymaymay:
It's just that reg inside:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AUDIOGAIN]
"AUDIO_DEBUG_FLAG"=dword:00000040

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]
"RingingAddressId"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev]
"VocRecPath"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\AudioRecording]
"Enabled"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Voice]
"EnableCallRecordMenuItem"=dword:00000001
"AllowInCallRecording"=dword:00000001

Same as here - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5650234&postcount=85

So cut that ..... and go away.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] hasan_abeer:
hi im already try this cab on latest official rom 1.66.405.2 but no way it only record caller sound?????????

so i hope more explanation from you which rom ,radio and on which 3rd app (like vito,reco or acr ??/

rgrds
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DrBasem:
naaah!

I'm afraid the above cab did work too :(

specially when using the BT headset

it records only the caller's voice!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
agree with maymaymay.

Those registry mods are the same that go around the forums with no luck for anyone.

Also, ACR installs those reg keys by itself.

They are no help at all.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] follettoverde:
the only way, at the moment, is to activate loudspeakers when recording
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
not really :)

that woukd.just improve the sound coming to the mchrophone.

A better solution n this case would be t send back to thw microphone the othsr person's voice through the wired headset plug with a special rewiring scheme, and anyway that would still be a workaround...

(messy typing drom the hd2 :p)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] follettoverde:
for me, when loudspeakers activated, result is good, not perfect but..... (installed mskip 2 way recording and resco audiorecorder)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
mskip's mods are the ones in that cab and the same which have been going around in the forums.

For practical use, they do not work with HD2, you still cannot record directly incoming voice. With loudspeaker activated, you get a way louder set of vibrations which the microphone records much better. That's why I was proposing that idea of modifyed wiring for headset jack pluck, you would need to take the incoming audio that goes to the headphones, and also "reroute it back" through the line-in channel. Dirty and ugly, but if possible would save the day...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] follettoverde:
i know, and i know that recording with loudspeakers activated is not definitive solution, but i record with resco audiorecorder setted to automatically recording and with loudspeakers on i can hear the "other's" voice clear enough
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seeraeuber:
easy working solution

you are not wrong, but it is not what I am heading for, sadly this way is not for any interest to me, regards
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] follettoverde:
i would like another solution too........
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dneto:
I tried the suggest in Da_G post.

After soft-reset, the RECORD menu is showed in Menu Call. The sound is recorded in My Documents\Notes\ (a huge file)

But just record environment sounds. Not IN CALL sound.

We want a solution... :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] etaoin:
agree for the subject changing!

and UP :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] un2666:
this is x1 incall record cab

this might work i'm not sure

this works on hd and x1

and records only incaller's voice not my voice

i used this with vito My Audio Notes

tell me the result
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
this 3d must be UPP!

forever
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] EvilBetty:
Well, I tried... :mad:

Though unhelpful, they were VERY courteous and very quick to respond. With Samsung I was lucky to get a response, and when I did it was very snippy.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
you knew beforehand what was coming to you when asking to HTC for help on this :D

They even deny to have any problem with pink blob on camera and slowness of htc messaging, so...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] EvilBetty:
Yeah I know but I didn't want anyone else implying we hadn't made the attempt :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
...point taken :D

So what's UP? :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] EvilBetty:
I wonder if anyone has tried this on a T-Mobile HD2 today? Or is it the same ROM from the EU version?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
US T-Mobile HD2

None of the in-call recording options in this thread appear to be working.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] EvilBetty:
Damn. Thanks for checking!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
wouldn't see why it should work, since most of us arealread using cooked roms based on the TMOUS one, and we still have no 2-way recording capability...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] EvilBetty:
Hard to say not knowing what the problem is. We don't know if it's a registry change / addition, a hardware limitation, or a driver limitation.

To me it was possible that one of those things could be different on the US model, and yet not be included in a cooked ROM.

Someone had the idea of pulling some files from the Rhodium to try on the HD2 but they didn't have one themselves to test with.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] atreal:
The fact of hardware limitation had never been proven. That one was supposed for years concerning htc devices until lol commonplace registry driver switches leaked with rom beta from htc. It doesn't matter imho whether the problem is in registry driver specific switch or driver itself (wavedev.dll etc.) as both unlikely be solved without next leakage or deep disassembling.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] EvilBetty:
Informative AND depressing at the same time! :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] atreal:
The problem of call recording is interesting to investigate. Say Nokia allowed it with no limitations in symbian while HTC, Motorola, Sony-Ericsson, Samsung (last thanks god without passion) avoid it like devil. In Android version 1.5 the api for call recording was not implemented yet. It was implemented in v. 1.6 and seems HTC had no time to set limitation as there is android app for call recording with Hero 1.6 rom. While there are similar problem threads with call recording problem with HTC Nexus and Motorola Droid with Android version 2.1 where guys think that similar problems occur in oem sound routing drivers as api provides such ability. Same api does provide Microsoft as there are many latest WM 6.5 devices (Acer, Samsung, Eten) with call recording ability.

So I think that it would be nice of htc and others to investigate legal issues more deeply as Nokia which is same at least serious company (not aware of communicators market share in US though) allows recording in latest Maemo devices as well.

By the way Apple as device manufacturer had also given no ability to record calls. But with Apple the issue is not that obvious as the limitation there could be multitasking specific. Wait for iPhone 4.0 and see.

The reason for putting such limits may also be caused with security and privacy in mind as if user gets some trojan on device the call records in theory could run somewhere. Who knows.