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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
won't happen I'm afraid ;) :( (contrasting feelings here :p)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Sammy88:
thanks ephestione, i will test it :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
How do I copy the read-only files from the ROM?

FWIW, I installed Dark's latest LG Expo 6.5.3 ROM and in call recording with ACR works perfectly; therefore, can the necessary files for chef's to try on the HD2 be pulled from the ROM install package?

I do like the Expo, but would gladly trade to the HD2 for the cheaper Tmobile service and think I could live without the physical keyboard.

Thx.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
just in case you missed the thread, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=536472, I'd suggest the latest "HD" version, browse the last pages, slothie attached it to one of his last posts (it's not on the first post)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seeraeuber:
dear morgej,

which device do you use with this LG ....ROM and perfect working ACR??

thxs
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seeraeuber:
certificate issue

@sammy88:

try sd-certs, a .cab that can be found here around. this useful cab will install the reg-tweaks for turning of certification-control on your device.

regards
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
Seeraeuber-

I am using an LG Expo, a snapdragon powered side slider offered by AT&T but only through alternate channels (i.e., you can't order it from their website, but you can find it on amazon.com, ebay.com, etc.).

So far ICR with ACR and/or Vito Audio Notes works like a champ.

Thx.

-James
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seeraeuber:
@Morgej,

Here in Europe it was said that this LG Expo will never be distributed, in fact it sounds that good to me that I want to buy it - Any Idea? Google didn´t help that much.

(It was also said that AT&T will not distribute it - and YOU know in fact what is true and what isn`t ...*gg*)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dinomc:
Very good explanation.

I hope that someone will found the solution.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
upp.............
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Bright.Light:
On my Universal I used Resco audio recorder (with WVGA skin)... I will try to use that in my new HD2 ...

It worked great, showing all recordings automatically, start recording automatically to a folder I selected, in various formats and on SD card.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
sure sure, but I'm betting the recording quality of the other person's voice is next to awful ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] woaloo:
+1,

I can confirm, it's terrific !!! speaking with the aliens....

You can turn speaker on for better results, but when it's your sweet baby calling you in the supermarket....

I don't know if SRWOW can improve. I haven't try it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
you probably mean terrible, as "terrific" means "great" ;)

One of the inconsistency of the english language :p

I suggested a modded 3.5mm jack hack once, were you would get a jack suited to be used as audio output and input (the one for 1ph0ne is the same afaik), and connect the output channel to the input ones, and you would make it so the audio from the caller goes back to the microphone directly
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Dino Crisis:
Which also implies that you would create a echo for the person you are talking to. :rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
d'oh, didn't think about that :p You're right :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] norikohxb:
Does IPhone support ICR?

thanks!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
does my toastmachine have multitasking support?

Oh, wait, it does, there are two slots for toasts......
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] amb9800:
Not directly-- APIs don't support it. There are some server-based solutions, but nothing free as of yet.

It's pretty much the only feature on Windows Mobile that's not available on the iPhone-- and as we see here, it's not really possible on many WM phones anymore either.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mamumami:
i just read hald of this thread, what going on, no solution yet, can someone, give something that works??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
nope, no can do :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] superflyboy:
What about VitoAudio Notes?

That seemed to work somewhat on my TyTnII, but now it's out of commission after falling in some water! :eek:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
you should really read more of this thread... it's been said several times that the problem lies not in the program used, but in the audio drivers shipped with the phone, so it's software independent until someone releases a "hacked" driver
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] aoakes:
I dont know if its too soon to say this... its just not going to happen. the mic and speaker are routed differently so basic recording software can only obtain your own voice. by law that really all you're allowed to do anyways..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
several people in this thread have said this, yet noone could provide proof that it's how it really works.

It also defies simple logic, since wiring separately the call audio from the rest of the device audio would be plain silly as it would require more efforts in planning and production.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] SaintNULL:
not exactly. it depends upon where you live. if you're in the US, some states allow you to record your own phone calls without notifying the other party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws).

of course, in most cases, you can record phone calls without consequence, since it's unlikely anyone else would ever find out--or do anything about it even if they did.

also, most companies you call give notice that your "call may be monitored or recorded". this acts as sufficient notice to both parties, and thus even in two party states you may record the call without notifying the representative you're speaking to.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] norikohxb:
http://billtietsang.blog.163.com/blog/static/12833576720102844623322/

don't waste time on it.

stupid HTC block it .

modify the headset can make ICR work well

**** HTC do this sutpid process

next time please try another brand phone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
This is the (let me say VERY funny) translation by google of the text in the link noriko posted.

...in other words, he just did what I suggested in this thread, uhm... couple months ago maybe? Even moreprobably.

That is reroute the headset audio to the microphone line.

As someone else pointed out, ven if it's bound to work, the other party will probably hear en echo of his own voice.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] gsm-decode:
Any clear pic for the modding ?

Need to modify my headset

thnx
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] kostasalfa:
bY THE TIME ICR MAY WORK FOR THIS PHONE..MOST OF US WILL BE PLAYING WITH THEIR HD3!!

IT TOOK SOME TIME FOR THE ORIGINAL HD TO GO OUT,ABOUT MAY IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY..

NOTHING BUT WAIT FOR HTC TO RELEASE A PROPER DRIVER..SOME SAY HTC WILL DO THIS IN THE TEST 3.01 BUILD..DONT KNOW..!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] woaloo:
Some cooked roms HAVE in call recording working great.

Take a tour on HTCPedia.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
it's in the originally linked blog post, see the post previous to mine... but anyway, let's say that if you feel up to the task of playing with soldering contacts, you should also have plenty of skills to figure out the correct pins ;)

I don't really think htc will EVER release a driver fully working for fully duplex ICR, I do count though on the fact that someone will mod the current driver to suit this need

There have been several people reporting this. Which is basically false news, since also on my device ICR "works", I can hear my own recorded voice just brilliantly, but try and find a single HD2, whatever the software on it may be, that also records the other party's voice in a similar brilliant way :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
You mean Miri-rom? The option is enabled but I thought it was not working really 2way!

I understood was the same problem as with other solution, your own voice clear, the other side just recorded the sound of the speaker directed to your own microphone.

Anyone tested the above stated?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Bright.Light:
Does not work... Uses the same registry keys...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] calozano:
It is just easy: put the speaker on.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jigners:
Dutty HG 4.1 has this cooked in
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
But is it working 2 way??

If Dutty uses the same drivers as the other cookers and nog spended extra time on this issue then it is only working 1 way of with a minimal quality on speakerphone.

Someone tried Dutty`s rom already?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
don't worry, it doesn't work the way we need, just like any other rom with sponsored "call recording" capabilities :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pseventhirty:
in call rec

there is an app in this forum called GAZ TOUCH TOOLS,one of the options is an in call recorder,never tried it myself but nevertheless the option is there
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] atabakrezaie:
hi

Alredy i install in call recording on my hd2

but it dosent work and i need this program to much?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] nagagaya:
help on voice recording

dear all

i am using voice recording for meeting in htc hd2, what is the best setting to be made for voice recording the meeting

Please help me
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jemarti:
Try: WM Sound Recorder
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] nagagaya:
thanks

can I get link to download

thanks in advance
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] trotterjerry:
Still no solution for the in call recording that is clear, eh?

I wonder if this whole Mel Gibson thing will speed things up? ;-p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] .razor:
Touch Tools (apart from being the best Tweak App out there) allows you to turn on In Call Recording:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=683951

Though the volume on the caller is low - this can't be changed. Still, it works.

Razor
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
nothing new, nothing new... :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
LG Expo

All-

The LG Expo is a windows mobile snapdragon powered smartphone that works perfectly for in call recording from the speaker/mic and bluetooth headsets...can anyone suggest what files need to be extracted (and how to extract the files) to try out on the HD2?

Thx.

James
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
that's been tried already by copying the -supposedly needed- audio driver from exp to hd2, nothing appeared to work. Just lurk in the previous pages of this thread to check for yourself ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
Expo

I recall the conversation re: copying the driver file form the Acer not working, but do not recall anyone trying the audio driver file(s) from the Expo.

Happy to help as I am now using an Expo, but would very much like an HD2.

Thx.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
oh, then I just remember wrong :D it was in fact me encouraging taking dll's from other devices... in this case anyway, you should still target the wavedev.dll file, that's the one which handles the audio paths inside the Leo afaik
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
I've tried to grab the wavedev.dll, but get all sorts of errors because its a readonly system file.

How do I get a copy of the wavedev.dll file from the Expo to post here for the technically equipped folks to determine if its usable on the HD2?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
being that readonly should only be a problem for overwriting, not for copying somewhere else... did you try making a copy of it with totalcommander?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
I get the following error message: "Cannot copy or move file!"

I tried putting it into a zip file with similar results and being a ROM file, i can not change the readonly, system, or hidden flags.

Suggestions?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
gee, if not even totalcommander helped, then I'm out of my wits, someone else should know, maybe by asking in the general forum. Must be possible somehow!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Mox512:
Any developers working on this problem?

Really usefull it will be ))
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] mageor:
With respect to the cooker...Sir Sternas in Artemis Roms managed to achieve what are u all looking for...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=612580
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] djurkash:
Is it possible that Sternas managed to achieve this !?

If he just added app for incallrecording, than it's nothing, but if he jumped over htc ban, than this is really great thing!!!

UPDATE: false hope :(, just have read confirmation:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ianjnb:
The Artemis 26 ROM doesnt make ICR work on my HD2. It's the same as it always was... my side is fine but the other side is faint and can be impossible to hear if I was is a noisy enviroemnt when I took the call :-(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] sanos99:
Probable Solution

Hi yall,

I have read all the posts pertaining to this HD2 in-call matter and I am pretty sure I found the answer: it all has to do with just hardware and the way the feedback from the remote side is routed back to the earpiece.

Normally, the caller voice and the remote voice are mixed together in a specific percentage and then routed to the earpiece already mixed. Some phones allow for the remote side volume to be altered independently from the overall volume (like on Palm Treo with wm 6.1 - you can easily see there are 2 volume bars that can be altered independently which establish the percentage of the mix of the two voice flows).

With HD2 (OR WM 6.5 - I couldn't do much research because I couldn't see many Wm 6.5 phones), there is but just one volume, making me thing that the feedback mixing part is fixed and cannot be altered.

I do believe that HD2 does not mix feedback voice flow digitally BEFORE sending the mix to the earpiece, but rather is mixing analogically the caller voice and the remote side by the means of an analogic device of some sort.

This hardware approach would make sens if the hardware developer wanted to reduce the number of components in the phone, as this can be easily achieved by using a very small size resistor and maybe also a capacitor.

If this is true, than wavedev.dll will be able to intercept ONLY the caller waveflow and NEVER the remote side waveflow. Nor any software hacks of any kind would be able to solve this issue.

The only (simple) solution would be, as stated in earlier posts, to use the speaker and force a mechanical mix of the caller voice and the remote side voice side back into the microphone, which will be intercepted by the software audio hooks.

An other (crazy) solution would be the following:

- dismantle the phone;

- try and locate a free path from the earpiece to the mic;

- install an air duct (a very thin pipe)into the phone, from the earpiece right in front of the mic;

Later edit:

I had an idea last night and put it into practice today, you might do the same to see the evidence:

1. put your headphones on the hd2 and make a call to your other line (i.e. your land line);

2. put the remote phone as far as you can from your hd2;

3. speak into the hd2 mic.

You will not hear your voice at all in the headphones: this means the two voice flows are completely separated.

Now, leave the HD2 away from the other phone.

Take the other phone and speak as close as you can into the phone's mic.

You will be able to hear you own voice, as regular phones DO MAKE A VOICE FEEDBACK.

Since in-call recording never records both incoming and outgoing flows, this is the reason why in-call recording on HD2 won't ever work without a workaround like those described earlier in this post, at least if some intelligent developer will find a way to realize this voice feedback by software.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] carmendel:
Thanks, thank you very much for yours ideas and yours works. THANKS
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] superflyboy:
Just FYI to all, I just got a T-mobile (US) version of the HD2, and installed Audio Notes on it.

The program looked like it bombed on install, but apparently the new (Sense? Touch?) version of Windows 6.5 did not like the simple interface of the older AN program, which is probably why the Audio Notes Touch program is required.

Anyway, it still could be configured properly, and it works (as it did for me with a HTC TyTnII) if you configure it to speakerphone mode, where the conversation is recorded flawlessly. (Better than the TyTnII, actually!)

PS: Now I wish I could find a similar program for the Blackberry...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] SpiritRC:
Nothing new, bro. Nothing new. Absolutely ANY voice recording program works "flawlessly" in speakerphone mode. But do you always want everyone around you to hear the conversation? I don't. Neither do other folks around here who are waiting for a properly working in-call-recorder for HD2. We don't want speakerphone mode. We want the party to be recorded directly from the GSM digital signal, not the speaker-to-mic way.

We already know that it IS possible on LG Expo, which is also Snapdragon. Now we are waiting for someone to find out what is responsible there for properly recording the party and to port that part of software to HD2.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] superflyboy:
I agree - but one has to deal with what one has, so I was simply reporting my experience, which is actually *much* better than the TyTnII experience, where the recording (in the same manner) sucked totally.

Great - keep us posted!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
bit harsh of a reply, but yeah, it's the same that I think :)

With time passing by, even if I had tried to demonstrate the contrary, I'ms starting to think that it MAY be a possibility that the incoming voice is routed via hardware and not via software, in that case making it impossible to achieve digital direct recording
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] epdm2be:
And hence HTC will not get my 500 euro's for their "flagship" Windows Mobile phone. Infact it seems that the same cost-reducing hardware restrictions are used in their Android phones. This means that HTC is out o/t question with regards to ANY new smartphone purchase!

Thank You HTC! For releasing again a crippled piece of **** like you ALWAYS do.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] AndrewCH:
Tested the "built" in Registry solution on HD2!

Running absolutely smooth and creat good quality recording
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] woaloo:
Humm,

Can you post your "built" in registry modification and a sample recording test...

I can't believe it's true!

;-)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] justin0679@gmail.com:
well done sir - when can we all expect to see it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] seeraeuber:
Solution in proper -2way- phone-call-recording

In case that this problem has been solved I would be glad in spending 550,-- € to HTC´s flagship and I am willing to cancel my already placed order for the Samsung Galaxy S.

But I need to know a working! solution, neither via headset nor via speakerphone.

I posted that I am willing to PAY for a proper working solution - will keep this promise.

Thxs and regards
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] djurkash:
Sorry, mate, but maybe yoy're wrong, I've had HD2 for 8 months, and now I own GALAXY S. I must say that if outlook and sync is a must for you, than go with HD2, but for anything else, my recommendation is GALAXY S, it is absolutely superb.

And not to go offtopic, this recording registry tweak is not confirmed, I can't see enybody published it anywhere. I have followed this thread from the begining, and as in case of FM transmitter thread no solution...so far...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] soniczz:
I miss my In Call Recorder so much....before the hd2 i had a raphael (Touch Pro) with the same issue..... opposite caller wasn't recorded... I did several registry tweaks and settings but that ditn't work... A hardspl, a Radio and a Rom update worked perfect for that one...

I think it's the same kind of issue here, but i don't know if it's the hardspl the radio or rom who dit it... and flashing my new hd2 is little scary now... maybe someone else??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] blitzkrieg7710:
Hi GUYZ... GREAT NEWS !!!! GOT AN IN CALL RECORDER FROM THE HD2APPS.BLOGSPOT.COM.... ITS CALLED Soundrecorder-2-1... HAVE TRIED IT ON MY HD2 AND WORKS LIKE A CHARM !!!!! YIPPEEEEEEE FINALLY A GOOD RECORDER FOR WM IS HERE !!!!!

P.S. SORRY FOR WRITING IN CAPS, BUT M TOO EXCITED ABOUT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] skippy2710:
Another failure

It would be great if it actually worked.....BUT IT DOESN'T.

Still the same old story..Will record my voice but not the callers.

I have a HD2 T9193
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] GLO:
I tried this with the Energy Rom and it maxxed out my cpu locking it at 100%, I would drop calls and it took ages to access the uninstall menu (since the CPU was 100%)

Finally once the software was removed my HD2 was back to normal.

Strangely though the 2 links have different file sizes and further more the Rapidshare link would only down load approx 10% file size, and say it was complete, then it would say its corrupt once it was unzipped.

Im using the same T9193 and only got 1 test call before it maxxed my cpu (using battclock to view cpu)

On the blog, it says it only works with the stock rom, presumably 6.1.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] blitzkrieg7710:
I beg to differ @skippy2710... i tried recording another call today morning and it works... albeit the sounf from the other end was not perfect, still was able to hear both sides of the conversation. Also, if u can change the settings of the recording format. Well i have tried it with mp3 and 96kbps setting and is working for me. hope it helps !!!! :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] blitzkrieg7710:
Hi GLO,

The two files have different sizes because the one shared on rapidshare has another text file in the rar folder which is nothing but crap typed by the owner of the file. which increases the file size to ~8 mb :)

P.S. and I am using it with WM6.5 WWE 1.66 based Stock rom
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] GLO:
Hi blitzkrieg7710,

I will try the Rapidshare link and try to install.

on that blog it, someone does say that it needs the stock rom, but apart from that, im stumped how much CPU it used.

Perhaps a conflict with one of my other apps, but honestly, its the first time i have heard of an app only working on the stock rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] 2xmanman:
is it really work without problems?

Let's try it and share!

Thanks for this GREAT info!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] geralt:
Thanks for good solution. It works perfectly on my HD2, only incoming voice is a bit dimmer than my voice, but I can work and live with it :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] GLO:
pls advise which rom your using?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tamiroff:
hi

can someone post a link for download?

thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] juston80:
Same problem even after hard reset with ROM 1.66, the phone no longer responds to commands end key.

Still feels very low almost like the other applications.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] halloj:
1.66

I´ve installed it in a stock rom 1.66 and it works fine, the other party is slightly lower than the one holding the phone.