yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] matttytn2:
can some one recomend a rom for speed and reliability thats stripped down but still has most features of new wm6.5 packages but not bothered about manilla or titanium... the plan is to run a very fast reliable rom then install all the apps i like and have spb mobile shel 3.5 as the ui i think this will make the smoothest and eye candy combo ava'bke for tp2.

anyone come in with any input please! discussion...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] janshuizing:
look at josh perfect black, hey have a stript version and i.m use the full one and that one is really fast
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] matttytn2:
well i am goin 2 try that! and install the missing apps i need thats been stripped out.

what makes a device faster surley it dont matter how many apps are installed i am sure the amount of services running in the back ground are though.

i will be interested to see how a stripped rom using nothing but spb shell 3.5 runs compaired to manilla and titanium. idealy i think 6.1 is fater than 6.5 so maybe will use 6.1 rom as the base as 6.5 holds no other features imo other than a horrible start menu and a few different layouts in the settings etc.

i want services like face book twitter msn hotmail/live and location and weather on all the time but any other service can be stopped / took out if the device will still work with out it and not limit me to installing any future apps.

why dont chefs cook in spb shell and lose the htc crap ( its a hardware company imo and a damn good one best mobile hardware out there) all being let down by the aplications and reliability.

:off topic

look at hd2 specs they blow all others away yet when ever some one uses our fone or we show are mates something low and behold it will make u look a prick and freeze or not do what it should have done anyone else feel this lol!

dont get me wrong i am a hard core winmo guy and allways will be but part of me is wanting an iphone 3gs as a "2nd" fone for games and social front cause winmo is lagging behind.. there emulators work brillantly so do there gps apps now they hav tomtom and even sky sports and a banking app from natwest grrr whats going on! lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rosebud:
SPB software is not free and sold at retail, if chefs were to cook software like this in, it would open up a massive can of worms.

Chefs respect (or should) the intellectual property of others, so this will never happen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] matttytn2:
and htc and microsoft are free and open to be copied changed and edited? its all a grey area but i agree we dont want to be atracting the wrong attention indeed. like microsoft spokes person said its up the the manufactures and htc said about the chefs out there we cant live with them and we cant live with out them meaning they know that cooked roms sell there devices cause neither of them can get it rite in the first place... spb i suppose ont deserve to be dragged in/ ripped off cause like you say there a seperate entity// maybe someone can show us how to cook it our selves for ppl that own the software?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Da_nao_yan:
you can flash a lite rom without manila and htc staff, then install spb software or others by yourself
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] cd993:
I HIGHLY recommend The Cell Series V7. Fast and looks the best!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Valkyrie's ROMS are excellent
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ai6908:
Any ROM in here is a good choice!

PS: How will define eye candy and speed? If you can define that two, then suggesting a suitable ROM might be easy...:rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nokiadashi:
very insightful:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kimtyson:
I prefer the NRGZ28 ROMS.

No, I prefer the Deepshining.

Well, I prefer the Valkyrie.

I think the Cell series are the best.

How about Jackos, Twopumpchump, Josh's, LeoPard, Mccune, AthineOS, Aruppenthal, Bhar's, Da_G, daxy, Sergio, eras2r, ...

Stop asking which is best. It is a matter of opinion and need. And the answer is different for us all or we would just have the Miscrosft version and xda wouldn't be needed. Try them until you find what you are looking for, or cook your own.

Please close this thread and those like it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrbrice:
Obviously there are some missing tools from the linux OS on the droid, so I'm looking to install busybox. I went directly to the source and tried to compile and install it on the phone, but it doesn't seem to work quite well.

I see a lot of people are including a version of busybox on their custom mods, but I'm not really looking to install a custom mod on my phone quite yet, but I would like the tools.

Does anyone know where I can download a good version of busybox that works on the Sprint HTC Hero without installing a rom?

I searched around the forums, but I'm not able to find anything quite yet.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
I compiled one just today for some other stuff, not fully tested, but here you are.

Let me know how it works.

mange@haxbox:~/android/src/busybox-1.15.2$ file busybox

busybox: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, stripped
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrbrice:
Nice. Cheers. I'll let you know how it goes.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rfgamaral:
Care to provide how do you install this into the Hero? I'm also interested as I don't want to use a custom ROM :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] obededom:
I'm assuming you push it, via adb....correct, packetlss?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
NOTE: backup before you try, writing this from the top of my head at 4 am.

To install:

run "adb remount" (to enable rw on /system)

run "adb push busybox /data/local" (so you got busybox somewhere on the phone)

run "adb shell" (to enter shell on phone)

in phone shell:

run "/data/local/busybox mkdir /system/xbin" (wanna make sure the directory exist)

run "/data/local/busybox cp /data/local/busybox /system/xbin/busybox" (copy busybox to xbin)

run "cd /system/xbin"

run "./busybox --install -s /system/xbin" (this should create symlinks for all the busybox applets)

run "ls -al" (you should see alot of symlinks)

run "rm /data/local/busybox" (remove the temporary busybox)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rfgamaral:
Thanks a lot for that... :)

Now I just need to learn how to do that directly into a custom ROM. Do you happen to know?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] VoXHTC:
So I followed that and accomplished it, I'm wondering what next? I have an app called SU File Manager & Terminal installed and it requires busybox. I don't see any new features or benefits? Am I not looking in the right place?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrbrice:
I'm having a permission issue getting this to install on my Hero.

Firstly I can't run 'adb remount'. I get:

remount failed: Operation not permitted

I'm not sure why.

So instead of remounting from there, I went into the adb shell and ran:

mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

This remounts rw /system just fine. I then I proceed with my install. I copy busybox to the /system/xbin folder and I run:

./busybox --install -s /system/xbin

However, I again get:

./busybox: permission denied

I have root access and I'm in su. I was able to mount system rw and make the xbin directly, along with copy the file to the folder, so I'm curious why i'm not able to install this.

Would anyone have a clue? It's 2:30am here, so I might be missing something or doing something incredibly stupid and just not realizing it. :p

Thanks!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
posted by mistake ignore...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
Make sure that busybox is executable:

chmod 755 busybox
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
Busybox gives you command line tools. I have no idea what that particular app uses it for. That is something you have to speak to them about.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrbrice:
Yeah, I had thought that, so I made sure it was executable before hand

# ls -la
ls -la
drwxrwxrwx system system 2009-11-29 07:48 nandroid
drwxrwxrwx system system 2009-11-29 05:00 rosie_scroll
-rwxrwxrwx system system 698452 2009-11-28 21:47 busybox
# ./busybox --install -s /system/xbin
./busybox --install -s /system/xbin
./busybox: permission denied

Any other idea why it might be giving me this?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
Don't run it from /sdcard, copy it to /data/local.

/sdcard is mounted noexec.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrbrice:
Ahh. My bad. I had followed your instructions initially but I must not have changed the permissions that time around (messing around at 2am, you make mistakes. ;))

Thanks for all the help, not only compiling this, but for the assistance getting it working.

Cheers man. Good job.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
If you guys want some other applets added to it, let me know and I'll compile a new one.

I think I got all the useful stuff in there though.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rfgamaral:
I'm trying to make my own custom ROM (nothing too fancy, just something to fit my needs) and I'm including busybox. It would be nice to have a list of all the busybox utilities (after the --install thing) so I could do the appropriate changes to the update-script manually.

Thanks for taking your time with this :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
Time to necro this thread again :)

New busybox out for those that cares, 1.15.3.

Code:
BusyBox v1.15.3 (2009-12-13 23:28:29 CET) multi-call binary
Copyright (C) 1998-2008 Erik Andersen, Rob Landley, Denys Vlasenko
and others. Licensed under GPLv2.
See source distribution for full notice.

Usage: busybox [function] [arguments]...
or: function [arguments]...

BusyBox is a multi-call binary that combines many common Unix
utilities into a single executable. Most people will create a
link to busybox for each function they wish to use and BusyBox
will act like whatever it was invoked as!

Currently defined functions:
[, [[, arping, ash, awk, basename, bbconfig, bunzip2, bzcat, bzip2,
cat, catv, chattr, chgrp, chmod, chown, chroot, chrt, cksum, clear,
cmp, cp, cpio, cut, date, dc, dd, depmod, devmem, df, diff, dirname,
dmesg, dnsd, dnsdomainname, dos2unix, du, echo, egrep, env, ether-wake,
expr, false, fbset, fbsplash, fdisk, fgrep, find, fold, free,
freeramdisk, fsck, fuser, getopt, grep, gunzip, gzip, head, hexdump,
hostname, ifconfig, insmod, install, ip, ipaddr, ipcalc, iplink,
iproute, iprule, iptunnel, kill, killall, killall5, last, length, less,
ln, losetup, ls, lsattr, lsmod, md5sum, mkdir, mkdosfs, mkfifo,
mkfs.vfat, mknod, mkswap, mktemp, modprobe, more, mount, mountpoint,
mv, nc, netstat, nice, nmeter, nohup, nslookup, od, patch, pidof, ping,
pipe_progress, printenv, printf, ps, pscan, pwd, rdev, readlink,
realpath, renice, reset, resize, rm, rmdir, rmmod, route, sed, seq,
setconsole, setlogcons, setsid, sh, sha1sum, showkey, sleep, sort,
split, stat, strings, stty, sum, swapoff, swapon, switch_root, sync,
sysctl, tac, tail, tar, tcpsvd, tee, telnet, telnetd, test, tftp, time,
top, touch, tr, traceroute, true, tty, tunctl, udpsvd, umount, uname,
uncompress, uniq, unix2dos, unzip, uptime, usleep, uudecode, uuencode,
vi, watch, wc, wget, which, who, whoami, xargs, yes, zcat
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rfgamaral:
Changelog?

Thanks for the binary by the way :)

EDIT: This is weird... the binary you just posted is smaller compared to the previous one I had, 682Kb compared to 1.78Mb. Why such a big difference?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
Bug fix release. 1.15.3 has fixes for ash (compilation with signed chars, SIGHUP handling fix), awk, flash_eraseall (fix for newer kernel headers), grep, mount (mount -a won't mount everyting again on 2nd run), ping (fix unaligned access), split (accepts "-" as stdin now), build system (parallel build).
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rfgamaral:
What about the size difference?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] posguy99:
dell $ file Desktop/busybox

Desktop/busybox: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, stripped

This one is stripped. Is the one you had previously?

That, or it's not linked against the same libraries.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rfgamaral:
I don't know what you mean... What I can tell you is that I got my busybox file from MoDaCo's custom ROM.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
Modaco's BB is bigger cause it includes lots of stuff that has no use on android.

Some of these bloat the binary quite badly.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rfgamaral:
What's the reason for using a build such as that if it includes lots of bloat?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] posguy99:
We won't know until he gives specifics of what he thinks is bloat. Just because his is smaller doesn't make it better, it's not like you can use the space on /system for anything else anyway.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] packetlss:
Examples of bloat, just from the top of my head:

addgroup, adduser, chpasswd, deluser, delgroup, beep, loadkeys, loadfont, various linux vt-tools, various mkfs for unused filesystems, various daemons like ftpd/sendmail/crontab etc, logname, logread, raidautorun, setarch, setconsole, setfont, setkeycodes, setlogcons, slattach.

There is more, just can't remember them at the moment.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] lostnfound53:
I am interested in installing this new version, but am a total linux noob. Can I just install this over the previous busybox or would it be a better idea to uninstall and then install the new one? If anyone could post instructions, that would be much appreciated!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] evilvoice:
I cant figure out why this wont work. Here is a copy of everything I have entered in command line, I have tried chmod 755, 0755, 4755 busybox, but the same results every time. the xbin directory does not exist, I checked for that. I installed the MR, and the recovery image. Please let me know what I am doing wrong, its starting to piss me off that I cant do any of these things with my hero.

C:\ANDW\tools>adb devices
adb server is out of date. killing...
* daemon started successfully *
List of devices attached
HT99HHF00850 device

C:\ANDW\tools>adb remount
remount failed: Operation not permitted

C:\ANDW\tools>adb push busybox /data/local
1173 KB/s (698452 bytes in 0.581s)

C:\ANDW\tools>adb shell
$ cd /data/local
cd /data/local
$ ls
ls
busybox
tmp
rights
asroot2
$ su
su
# chmod 0755 /data/local/busybox
chmod 0755 /data/local/busybox
# mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
# /data/local/busybox mkdir /system/xbin
/data/local/busybox mkdir /system/xbin
mkdir: cannot create directory '/system/xbin': Permission denied
#
[Hero CDMA Android Development] wacky.banana:
Ignore this. problem solved.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] troyboytn:
can someone shed some light on this. keep getting cannot create directory '/system/xbin':permission denied . i need to install busybox to enable titanium backup
[Hero CDMA Android Development] troyboytn:
anyone? please help, I have searched this forum up and down for answers.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] thedudejdog:
sounds like you aren't using root/rewrite permissions.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] troyboytn:
For anyone running the stock rom and need titanium backup, su file manager, superuser, or other working....the solution for "permissions denied" when trying to run ADB Remount and to install Busybox can be found on the first post of this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=593952 Super thanks to mercado79!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 2002wrex:
in your zip it isn't packed as an .exe. so can i use winwar to repack it as an executable??? or do i have to find it as an exe from somewhere else?

please help an android noob out!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] smw6180:
Once you put busybox on your phone, go to the directory you installed it to (usually /system/xbin) and do this:

adb shell

# cd /system/xbin

# chmod 0755 busybox

# exit

That makes it executable.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] spastik:
I did a quick search and couldn't find anything related with this subject...

Is anyone interested in creating our own (XDA) application "marketplace" ?

I'm putting marketplace inside commas since the purposed would not be selling, but simply create a distribution system similar to windows marketplace.

tell me what you think...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Jeeves:
Keep searching, forums full of similar projects.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
It's a nice idea, but as Jeeves has said it's been done many times, almost always with similar results. Here are some of the XDA-Developers app stores I've seen in my time here @ XDA-Developers: Pocket Download Manager, Jak Portal (which became OpnMarket), Gecko (now defunct it seems), FireSale (Gecko successor, also defunct), and DeviceUpdate. Only a few are still active now (OpnMarket, Pocket Download Manager, and DeviceUpdate I think).

While I'm not at all against the idea, it definitely needs to be executed differently and better than those other stores were in the past. A lot of people need to get behind one app market instead of creating another one three months later and forking from the original, and it needs to be actively maintained through a large network of volunteers and developers, so it doesn't get outdated and die off.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] papajohn:
And that's why I think that only MS has reasonable chances of success...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] style1:
apptodate FTW. I think there is a ppc app that links right to freewarepocketpc.net I forget what it was..If I find it I will link it
[HD2 General] mhmobile:
Not sure if this is well known here but I made the mistake of cleaning the registery with PM and it completely took out the native HTC video viewer.

Anyone know of a compatible registry cleaner? Been installing and uninstalling my old apps to find the ones that work well with the HD2 and I know there's junk left behind from the uninstalls...
[HD2 General] hassan:
Once long time ago i've used a it as well and really screwed my Vario. Its not very good mechanic i think. :D

I think batter hard reset unless some body has an other idea.
[HD2 General] pedmond:
NEVER trust registry cleaners. I never met one not to cause problems.
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
If you insist on using one try SK Tools, but stay away from reg. values cleaner, just use the normal clean which also cleans some invalid reg entrys. I use it mostly for cleaning temp files and free up some memory but as others told you is better not use reg cleaners.(Poket Mechanic messes up everything, from the youtube player, video player, to opera browser...everything, it.s the worst there is in my opinion)

I suggest you do a hard reset and after it, backup your registry.
[HD2 General] mhmobile:
Thanks for your suggestions. I've used reg cleaners for years on my WM pda devices and never had a problem until now. Maybe it's not necessary to clean the registry at all, but with all the supposed errors the cleaners find, it makes you wonder...
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
can one of you guys please port some fully working android versions over to the cdma version of the htc diamond? like for sprint/diam500 users i mean. i have no clue why there is no development going on at all for our devices but we need your help. :(
[Touch CDMA General] sricke66:
I thought you jumped ship for blackberry? What happened?
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
blackberry was defective, bought a pre...lcd went out now im stuck with a used diamond until i can save for the hero. :mad:

point of story is i hate sprint with a passion.
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
There were two guys from the diamond cdma that had been messaging me. Than they just stopped.

Tell you what, create a thread for the cdma diamond in the diamond forum send me a link to it and I'll happily jump in to help, if I can :)
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
will do and thanks!
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5037223#post5037223

here you go guys.
[Touch CDMA General] jamezelle:
guess who's back back back, back again-gain-gain, fixxer's back back back tell a friend!! :p:p:p
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
not by choice but yeah im back to winmo hell for now. too bad i sold my touch vogue, im stuck with this diamond.
[Touch CDMA General] tatnai:
lol .
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
connect-utb has several of my donut and xrom images and files necessary to run android on the diamond. i'm not doing very much development these days. especially since i'm running my donut build from nand and can now flash yaffs2 images and have a full recovery screen with selectable menu items and usb tether so my laptop has a working internet connection when in android. also the moto droid or htc passion can wait a little bit longer.
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
they won't run on a cdma diamond, there are no working builds atm.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
check connect-utb again they have an updated one for cdma. it can make calls no data though.
[Touch CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
i just checked and i see nothing for cdma. can you give me a link to the build your talking about? anyways im buying a vogue tomorrow to flash this new android rom. gonna get an extended battery too with it, should tide me over until i can get a real hero or moment.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
it's the main page connect-utb.com
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] blurp76:
Hi all, i've had this problem for a long time... hope somebody can shed me some light to solve it. I've been living with it for months but now it's starting to annoy me as it increase the battery drain significately

Basically my diamond wakes up from standby semi randomly, in order of frequency: by sliding off the back cover, shaking the phone, touching the screen or more rarely by pressing hw buttons.

This behaviour seems to appear after the phone is on for a few hours. More rarely just after a soft reset.

Sometimes it happens just once, other times it keeps waking up just after pressing the power button to put it to sleep... mistery!

I've tried kill any process except the system ones and remove anything extra from windows startup, including repllog.exe, biotouch.exe.. but i haven't been able to identify the source of the problem.

I'm running Shaks v4.30 ROM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=462455

with radio 1.13.25.24 and matching rilphone.

If i can't find a solution i'll try to install a different rom, but i'd rather avoid this as this works fine and it would take a lot of time to reinstall all programs and tweaks...

Any hint would be highly appreciated
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] blurp76:
up..

I've tried formatting with mtty, installing different wm6.1 and wm6.5 rom and an HTC stock rom, but the problem persists... it keeps waking up from standby.

I'm starting to think it's an hardware issue... Any suggestion on how i could log the reason it keeps waking up?

Please, any help would be very appreciated
[HD2 General] Hyweljh:
Hi all,

I liked it when my Kaiser flashed green when it’s on,for the people who dont know its like the reminder on the HD2 but constantly on and green and when I had an SMS or missed call or e-mail It would flash amber instead.

I would like the on light to flash of intervals of 6 seconds and the amber notification every 6 seconds as well.

Can someone do this? or is it too early in dev?

And for the poeple who think this is a bad idea due to battery life then I disagree, thanks to the powersaving regedits battery life for me has greatly improved!
[HD2 General] an123:
yeah that would be a very useful feature...a lot of times, it's difficult for people to understand that the phone is ON, when the screen is turned off
[HD2 General] Hyweljh:
I work nights so it also helps me to find where my phone is instead of having to wander around feeling everything :p