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[Touch CDMA Android Development] sshark:
I am just wondering if Cynogen builds on Dream are so popular, why no one is porting them/developing them for Vogue?:confused:

Any incompatibilities? Other issues?

For example, latest cynogen mod will get lots of eclair stuff - like eclair browser, based on his tweet.:)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
Hey guys this is my first time updating on nand. Is it possible to update and keep apps or settings? Or at least backup to a list? Finally had it just right : -)

More importantly, thanks Plemen!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sshark:
You can copy apps by going to /data/app folder on your data.img. This will not only copy apps but will also restore download history for market when you copy apps to new build.

Here are commands to this, assuming data.img is already on sdcard root:

cd /sdcard

mkdir backupapps

cd /

cd /sdcard/data/app

cp *.* /sdcard/backupapps

when you install nand, use following (since data will be mounted on separate partition):

cd /sdcard/backupapps

cp *.* /data/app

Use MyBackUp Pro 2.2 to store/restore all your settings including home icon positions, and you know where to find it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
Thanks you are the best!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gigermunit:
is there anyway to get mounting to work?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] hexto:
I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I cannot get this to work. I'm used to using the systemfstonand rootfstonand and datafstonand not the .tar files. I started with a clean SD card and I put the following in it:

AndroidApps folder

rootfs.img

system.sqsh

androidinstall.tar

I flashed using DZOs latest 240x320 but when it boots up its not themed, nav is not there etc. Just plain Ion. What am I doing wrong?:confused::confused:
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
I have ported a few version of cyanogens builds - I was about to upload the latest (4.2.9.1) but enomther's came out and it has all of the updates as well; the shutdown is a bit of an issue with cyanogen because to have it work requires a mod to the init in rootfs - enomther's just ports more cleanly.

I'll port and post cyanogens if it adds eclair browser and such.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
Now that you have dzo's full ion package working, copy over this sqsh and the blank data.img in the first post (if you need it) and also add systemfstonand and datafstonand (if needed) and it should update and install.

I don't think u need the tar file anymore.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] scizzle:
Does this new version still contain the fix that stops it from download OTA updates? Bill last month was HUGE haha.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
Yes - it should be fine.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gigermunit:
sorry to ask again but any way to get mounting to work?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
hey if i install this to nand with the 240x320 resolution is the market place going to mess up?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
you will see less apps, apps that arent compatible with qvga wont be in the market
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
hey jamezelle thanks for that quick reply

one more question for u if i make my own data image with haret (at 320x480) then use thst data.img with the system and roofs and flash with the 320x480.nbh will it install correctly because i use alot of those apps that dont show and i dont mind the blur
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
yea it will :) the lcd density in the build.prop has to be 160 or it will look really wierd
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
Awesome thanks!

Awesome thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
What do you mean by mounting?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] yes_senpai:
I think he may be talking about mounting the SD card to the computer.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
where is the build.prop i been looking for awhile now lol anyone any help?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
/system/build.prop I believe.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
you mean like go into the system.img with txt editor or in terminal after i flash?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
you have to use terminal or adb. or you can use a linux or ubunto box and unsquash the system.sqsh and edit it, then put it back together. read the other forums, people have discussed exactly how to do it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
bummer i have never got adb to work with my windows 7.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
assuming you have adb setup:

adb pull /system/build.prop

after you flash change the lcd line to say 160 then

adb shell mount -o remount,rw /system
adb push build.prop /system

then reboot

or assuming this build has nano (not sure)

to check open terminal and type

ls /system/bin
----look and see if you see the word/binary file "nano"
----if not try
ls /system/xbin
----again check for nano

open a terminal emulator

you may have to type su again not sure

nano /system/build.prop

make your changes and exit
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
think i am out of luck for the nano didnt see it
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
hey

ok i am being dumb i got the adb2.zip extracted it i double clikc adb and it just scrolls threw a bunch of stuff real quick and closes
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
it has to be installed there are several tutorials around http://tinyurl.com/ycysgxg
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drewden123:
So I'm having some strange issues...I'm getting a lot of lock ups while I'm connected to data, especially when i'm downloading an app from the market. Then, I reset and the notification icon for downloading (the down arrow) shows and won't go away, and I can't drag down the notification bar. It's been stuck like this after multiple reboots, etc. Anything I can do to "reset" the notification bar without putting a whole new system on?

EDIT: Anyone who has run into this issue, I figured it out. If you encounter the problem described above, go into Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Market>Clear Cache. Then reset.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
the issue i have with installing adb is my phone never shows up all the instruction i see say it will show up.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gigermunit:
exactly, that's what I mean.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] yes_senpai:
What OS is your computer...Mac, Windows, Linux?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gigermunit:
windows xp
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sshark:
Don't use ADB2, use ADB and it WILL work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmcnano:
is there any ADB for osx?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] yes_senpai:
Haha I have major issues trying to connect my vogue to Windows. If anyone wants to show us where to get ADB and the drivers and how to set it up that would mean alot.

Thanks! :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=595131&page=2 post #17
[Touch CDMA Android Development] yes_senpai:
Thank you. It's so much easier on linux. Now I can finally use windows! :D
[Touch CDMA Android Development] hexto:
:):):) That worked. Super fast and stable. Thanks. :):):)
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sportsterBK8:
help/bugreport

On these donut builds, my notification panel seems to force close, with or without notifying me of this fact.

So sometimes I get a notification of the force close, other times I don't, but either way, I end up with no way to pull down my notifications. Is there a simple way to start this process up again while inside the build without having to restart my phone every time this force closes?

I am using this eclair themed donut build, with the newest files, and the gps enabled rootfs.

Any Ideas guys??
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drewden123:
I get this so often. I haven't found any pattern for why it happens, and sometimes I'll just ignore it, then in about 20 min or however long it will work again. Sometimes, however, a soft reset doesn't even help it.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zkush:
how about adb for vista 32 bit? im a n00b to adb sorry!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sportsterBK8:
FIXED

okay, well heres how I fixed my little notification problem, I was using a program called lockbot to emulate the eclair lock screen, this was causing problems with the notification panel, and just generally causing havok with these builds.

so if you're using a third party app to ad a lockscreen to these "lockscreen-less" donut builds, they may be causing your problem as well.

guess I'll have to wait until the eclair build has better working audio and voicesearch before I can have a good lock screen.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stopthebus:
That is a known fact about these third party lock screens, the lost of the notification panel and also your SEND key as well (it will not goes to call log anymore when press). These lock apps are not just lock screens they also take over the home pages.

Lock 2.0 does the exact same thing.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
donut builds are not lock-screen-less. once you log into google services and reboot, you should get a lock screen and functionality from the green button.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] drewden123:
never worked for me..
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
hey

where are the plain adb (not adb2) drivers at because i tried tutorials and the adb2 i am using windows xp and my cannot be found no matter what i do so my lcd density is still all messed up.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] lgevo:
OR

is there a place i can get the nano .apk so i can do it in terminal on the phone?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] canadiankorean:
Ok I've been looking (not too thorough) but I still haven't been able to find or read if you can run android off the SD.

All the instructions seem to point to flashing NAND or wiping your current installation.

I used a build Donut 1.6 and all I did was copy the files to the SD and ran haret.

But right now, all the downloads have just the rootfs.img and other files but no haret.

I thought I found a link that had the SD installation method but then it seemed to require a wipe and bootloader...

I just want to try it without wiping or flashing my phone.

Anyone have the instructions/files for that?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
here are the basefiles for haret boot download these and then download the sqsh file of the build you want to run. here are instructions written by Vilord

Instructions for booting android.

Files to download:
basefiles-xxxx.zip
system-xxxx.img or system-xxxx.sqsh
updated zImage-xxxx
updated rootfs-xxxx.img

If you are updating clear the root of your sdcard of any old android related files by moving them to a seperate folder or deleting them. If you are changing system images make sure you rename or backup your old data.img it might not be compatible with new or different builds.

Copy all files to the root of your sdcard.

Extract the basefiles.zip to the root of your sdcard.

Files are now located in /android on your sdcard.

Rename any updated files to there short names and copy them to /android on your sdcard. For example if you downloaded zImage-24-10-09 rename it zImage etc...

Edit your default.txt for your panel type and resolution. There are comments in the file that will guide you.

Correct resolutions for different builds:
Donut/Tattoo:	mddi.width=240 mddi.height=320 lcd.density=120 (qvga)
Ion/Cupcake:	mddi.width=320 mddi.height=427 lcd.density=160 (this is the most common and can be adjusted)
Hero/Rogers:	mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=160 (hvga)

Rename the system image that you downloaded to system.img or system.sqsh depending on what file extension is already there. For example if you downloaded system-08-08-09.img rename it system.img. If you downloaded system-tmo-ota-drc92.sqsh rename it to system.sqsh.

After everything is setup execute haret.exe and tap run.

Any other questions post them in the correct xda thread for the build you are running.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] canadiankorean:
Thanks! worked great.

However, I can't get data connections. I do get the calls working.

I'll search through the threads but if anyone can answer, that would be great.

my provider is Telus (Canada)

EDIT: Had to manually add the APN settings.

Seems to be working fine now.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] pmcnano:
Mh, Had been trying some rootfs with the new libgps but then GPS doesnt work, anyone got it working with this build and a kaiser?

Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] LivinOne:
Is there any chance Bluetooth will work with these builds soon? It is critical for me as I use my headset exclusively.

thx
[Touch CDMA Android Development] akyboy:
hi

i am runing it of sdcard , haret.

all good except GPS.

gps worked only on first run, i rebooted it and i am unable to get gps working now

any ideas maybe?

tnx
[Touch CDMA Android Development] scramiro:
calls crash

Hi,

i tried heroblend and eclair themed but i have same problem: when i try to make a call the phones freeze (i have to force close com.phone... or somethin like that), and sometimes, when i pick up a phone call i can't hear anything.

Im using polaris with fat32, ext2 and sqsh. It didn't happen to me with the before version (18 dic). I have to turn back to wm... :(

Any idea? thank you for your work plemen.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
4RN55921A6224463F

Happy Holidays :)

As far as I'm concerned, this is the best build of Android for Vogue available right now. If Bluetooth ever gets worked out, I will forget Windows Mobile ever existed!

Thanks Plemen, great work!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] meccax5:
how do i fix the screen sensitivity? i have to basically attack the phone for it to work.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
Calibrate screen app from that menu that you pullup
[Touch CDMA Android Development] meccax5:
yeah but does that fix screen sensitivity?

also do i just have to press each red dot individually with the stylus?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
Screen sensitivity I don't think so - are you saying you have to press hard on the screen? That seems weird, as long as it's calibrated properly, it shouldn't be an issue.

The calibrate screen thing is a bit odd - the exact procedure (at least what worked for me) is to yes touch both red dots, then press the menu button and save calibration and then you can back out and it should be good.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] meccax5:
yeah i have to push really hard on it. i guess its just a bad screen, the phone used to be my friends so i guess its wear and tear.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
Did you have problems in Winmo or no? I dunno that's weird!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
Added no map version of sqsh for US users - you can use this sqsh file and then download google maps from market to get full navigation functionality.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sshark:
Any chance of new update, anytime soon?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
Lately, I've been experiencing random freezes that require me to reboot. They seem to happen especially when I am in areas of poor service. They're not nearly enough to drive me crazy, and fortunately Android seems to handle unexpected reboots very gracefully - no sms are lost, no data lost, etc, but I am curious:

#1 does anyone else experience this?

#2 what is the most likely cause?

#3 would reflashing from a clean start do any good?

Again, it is not nearly often enough to make it unusable, but I'm sooo close to perfect with this build truly the only issues I have left are #1 the random freezes #2 the GPS going a bit haywire at times in nav and #3 Bluetooth Considering this phone was made before Android even existed, this is pretty damn good!!!!!!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
Are you using nand or haret boot?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
There aren't too many updates available to apply to this build. I was trying out the latest cyanogen build with the eclair browser - its nice but it seems like a step back in speed...
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gigermunit:
I recommend people don't install mybackup without uninstalling it between uses, after i installed it i experienced alot of lag and random crashes, especially during calls, uninstalled it and the fixed was remedied.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] sshark:
You may have some meat in your argument.

I uninstalled and can see that phone is snappier, don't know about calls though yet.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gigermunit:
i do know it auto runs in the background for what i would believe is its auto backup feature but i think it uses up alot of the process and depending on how many widgets you have, it might choke off the ram til it crashes, i have quite a few widgets up so im guessing thats the case atleast for me.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] weezertom:
Hey.. i'm just trying to figure out what to do with the sqsh file.. if i'm doing a nand flash do i need it?

I updated my phone by copying the androidinstall tar over to my sd card and then running romupdate.. but that seems to have flashed it to a basic 1.5... how do i get the eclair themed rom on there?

thanks for all your work

i love android on the vogue..
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gigermunit:
yes you need that file, thats what holds the actual rom of this build.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] weezertom:
do i just name it system.sqsh and leave it on the root of the card? do i do this while leaving the androidinstall.tar in the root as well?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
Rename it to system.sqsh and also create a blank file called systemfstonand - put both on the root of the card (use notepad or something to create this file - make sure it doesn't have an extension).

You can remove the androidinstall.tar from the card just to be safe - not sure if it will interfere or not.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] weezertom:
thanks plemen.. it worked great!.. thanks for all the work you put into this build.. one more question.. the writing is really small.. how can i adjust it so the screen resolution is the same as the one in your preview pic..

thanks again
[Touch CDMA Android Development] gigermunit:
flash using this nbh,

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/voguimg-240x320-17-12-09.nbh

rename it to the one you used earlier.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
I'm using Nand - previously I was running from SD card, and it is much faster on Nand.

Also, do have any idea if anyone is working on developing the bluetooth drivers for the Vogue? Or is it something in each update (1.5, 1.6, 2.01, etc) that "breaks" bluetooth? Is this a priority at all right now or no?

I remember when I FIRST started toying with Android, I used a 1.5 Google Ion build that would turn on bluetooth, pair with headset make calls, there were issues with keeping it paired, often I would have to delete and start over just to make a call, but it somewhat worked. I've noticed in most builds 1.6 and up bluetooth doesn't even seem to turn on. I'm just curious how that works.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
Bluetooth requires changes to either the kernel or the drivers; this can change with each new version - when we jumped from 1.5 to 1.6 there where enough changes in the os to require driver changes. Audio and GPS have been implemented but bluetooth still requires work. Once the drivers/kernel is updated then all of the donut builds will have this functionality.

I'm honestly not sure if anybody is actively working on bluetooth but I'm sure somebody is looking at it.

Also, if you continue experiencing freezes, try running android using haret with an ext2 partition on the sdcard as a test and see if your freezing goes away.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] bchi49:
this runs pretty fast with ext2 partitions, w/clean data file. No freeze so far.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
Thanks for the explaination!

Isn't Android from SD card slower than nand? or does ext2 make it faster than Nand? Every once in a while I get a message that Google Maps force closed - all the time while it's not open. And when it happens, even if Google Maps is already open - Google maps does not actually force close, so I think it's a process related but not directly Google maps. Sorry if that is confusing =/

If I decide to try starting from a clean slate how would one do this? With winmo roms you would just reflash, but I don't believe it works the same for Android right? Hard reseting doesn't do it either, so do you just copy the system.img and data.img and overwrite the previous and there is never any actual "formatting" as we would in windows mobile?

Thanks for all your help
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
To start over with nand do the following:

1) flash dzo's latest nbh for 240x320

2) put the following files in root of your sdcard:

system.sqsh

rootfs.img

data.img

systemfstonand

rootfstonand

datafstonand

The ...fstonand files are empty files which trigger the flash of the respective file to nand.

To start fresh with ext2 do the following:

1) flash a winmo rom

2) re partition your sdcard to have a 100 - 200mb ext2 partition

3) unzip this file to your sdcard:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zoywdnzmumh/android.zip

*Note: this package has my heroblend build included - replace the system.sqsh with the eclair build if you like.

4) run haret.exe and wait for it to prompt you to press voldn to upgrade your system and do so - this extracts your system.sqsh to ext2.

Thats it - I have been running ext2 with no issues - not saying nand has issues but I haven't tested it recently.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] berardi:
great, thank you sir!
[Touch CDMA Android Development] stopthebus:
All this talk about NAND and EXT2 make me kind of curious.

Can we use NAND with EXT2? Format the whole sd card as EXT2 and use it with NAND.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] zkush:
does this version have the sms/call lockups running on nand like the other versions?
[Touch CDMA Android Development] jamezelle:
it isnt determined by build, afaik all builds running from nand get the lockups its kernel related i think, Don't Quote me on it though
[Touch CDMA Android Development] smarcin:
ext2 and multiple bulds on one microsd

Are you only running one ext2 partition, Plemen? Why do others suggest 2 ext2 partitions?

And, if I want to change builds while using ext2, what files can I leave, and what do I have to change? Do I have to format the ext2 partitions if I want to change builds?

I have this dream of having an 8gb microsd card with 3 or 4 different builds, and being able to switch between them. Running under haret, I don't see that as being possible. You could have 4 different files named android1, android2, ect. But not alll of the files written after you run haret are inside of the android folder. Can anyone think of a way it's possible to have multiple builds on one sdcard and switch them? Maybe it's a silly pipe dream...

Sally
[Touch CDMA Android Development] TheKartus:
You use two partitions since you have one for the system files and one for data. All you do to change images when using the partition system, is put a new system.sqsh on the root of your card (or Android folder) and then use the utility in the rootfs to upgrade the image, backup the old data, and/or wipe your data partition.

Occasionally I reformat but only if something is screwed up and it needs it.

You could in theory, have a couple different builds. Just keep some system images and data images on your sdcard. When you want to use a paritcular pair, just make copies of them from one folder and put them on the root of the card (or the Android folder) and then run the utility using that image and data image. Its a little bit of a process each time, but its not such a hassle to have a couple different builds to just jump right into where you left off.

I may actually get a hero build setup for hotdogging purposes and then have it waiting on my sdcard for use while I use donut full time.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] plemen:
You can use two but I am using only one - my data.img is stored in the sdcard/android folder. I back these up when I am trying a new build.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tatnai:
you can use NAND with ext2. I haven't, but per vilord: