yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
I'm currnetly trying a few tricks/tweaks with the 23568 beta build to see if I can eliminate the tearing effect.

Also, I would really like to get back the bouncing effect upon scrolling, like in WM6.5.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
the bouncy effect has been disabled in all new builds, i really cant believe M$ is doing that. if u want it i'll have to use physics engine from an old build, and i dont like mixing builds.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
You are right, lets not mix the build parts. I'll just get used to it, I guess... :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pgonza02:
Volume Preview

Hi,

Can anyone tell me how to enable the volume preview when using the up/down buttons?

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Do you mean the beep when going up/down?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pgonza02:
Yes, that's it.

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] sjauquet:
Hi,

I also noticed the slow speed when clicking on the box for replying, sometimes I have to wait 10-15 sec for the phone to "un-freeze".

I didn't find a way to disable the HTC interface for displaying and responding to SMS. The solution given in the "holy grail R5" rom doesn't work here, any solution to disable htc sms ?

Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] imranbashir_uk:
Hi Aman,

I haven’t yet used any of your ROMs (still using 6.1!) but I have been keeping a close eye on your releases, I understand that you have removed the various shortcuts that appear when you ‘Long Press End Key’ I use the set vibrate and terminate data connection shortcuts regularly.

Whilst im sure you have valid reasons for removing these functions as they may not add value to your needs, I do use them and would sorely miss their absence. If it is not possible to cook these options back in can you attach a cab file that will reset these options back to stock?

Many thanks, I hope to try your ROM over the coming weeks when I have a few days off…
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tuniel:
long press end key

You (and others that miss the chance to set the long press end key function) could use this cab:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1782000&postcount=1

install the cab, soft reset and then the end key setting is back (in the system menu)

only thing is that, in my case, if i assign the long press to display the list it doesn't show up (minor thing as i use the end key to set vibrate/ringer)

hope this helps

cheers
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] emx_o:
long press endkey is not stock
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kili:
I made some Screenshots, so you can take a look on it and understand my problem :o
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
copy these files to ur windows directory & soft reset to solve menu bug.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] imranbashir_uk:
Thanks, if i move over to a TESS rom i will use this...

I have been using it so long i never gave it another thought doesnt matter if its stock or not it's brilliant...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] marjanot:
So then it makes no sense to have GPS info on images, if I took shot at some position, I don't want it to be displayed half kilometer away :confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gomo187:
Long press end key is in the stock HTC Diamond shipped ROM version 2.03.831.2 WWE. Seems pretty stock to me, at least on the D1, an older device...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] orik13:
I think if you are setting your camera to GPS mode then only a regular GPS is used and it's going to be more accurate, probably. In this case it seems the phone does not use a data connection to retrieve a cell location.

It's my guess, I never used footprints yet, but regular GPS pictures were located accurate enough (last time it was a couple of months ago with other ROM). Anyway get a try.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] daffie:
Aman...do you know why the shortcuts in start menu for HTC (calendar, music) keep coming back after I have removed them? Thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gianton:
Apply changes to the reg and soft reset, then you can move/delete them:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]

"IsShortcutEnable"=dword:0
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] daffie:
Just to make 100% sure...this is to make possible to remove HTC shortcuts from *startmenu*...correct ? Thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gianton:
Yes, you can move/delete any HTC shortcut.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] daffie:
Great, thanks again :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] terencetan75:
Messaging is really slooooooooow

Hi,

Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this but the messaging app is really slow. The format of how the text messages are presented is really cool but all the messages really take a long time to load, so long to the point of being unusable.

When I go into the message conversations thread, and click on an individual message, it goes to my contact's message tab and takes about 30 secs to load the messages.

And when I try to press the back button to go back, or press the end key to go back to home screen, it either takes about 1 min or hangs my entire phone.

Other than this problem, it's a great ROM. VERY responsive and fast.

Just that the messaging really sucks.

The moment I try to access my text messages, the entire phone slows to a crawl.

Any solutions for this?

Or how do I get back to the default WM messaging app?

At least that was more usable speed-wise

Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] zimmicz:
Some cab disabling HTC Messaging would be nice I suppose
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] sjauquet:
I searched around, found solutions but they doesn't work on this rom.

Else this annoying problem, this rom is really great !
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Laban:
does the Active Sync application always start up for you? Almost all the time it fails for me.

After starting it I see the title saying Active Sync and I get an x in the upper right corner but I still see the home screen. I also get the correct left soft button but don't see the actual application.

Annyone else?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] zimmicz:
Guys how long does it take your Topaz to drain the battery? It seems to me 4.2 comes with the quite high battery drain (mine lasts not even 1.5 days and i am not doing anything special - no push, a little bit of wifi (like 10-15 minutes), some sms, no calling).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Go to HKCU/ControlPanel/Volume

And set "Mute" to 3.

Soft reset, and voilá! :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pgonza02:
That was it...awesome.

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Youre welcome! This is what this forum is for, to help each other! :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Prime V

Aman,

The Leo 3.04 ROM and the Oboe 0.70 both have the new Manila, 2015 and 2016, respectively.

In the Fuze forum, they are reporting very good speeds with the 2016 Manila, and the 2016 lockscreen adds support for passwords as well (not that I use any...).

Until the COM5 builds get ironed out, these upgrades would be great for the COM2 Prime!

(Just a thought)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
but we dont know if the existing OEMs like Phonecanvas will be compatible with new manila builds. its just a chaos these days, so many branches and builds of WM and new OEMs may also not be fully downward compatible with COM2 builds.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
It is a chaos... we have COM2-3-4-5, and Manila builds all over...

I remember that the new phone canvas is not fully compatible with Manila 2.1...

So the new Phone Canvas does support 3G then?

But the new features are very tempting... :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
no, the phone canvas of Oboe doesnt supprt 3G video calls. thats the main reason i dont want to even give it a try.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Darn... even though I only made 1 video call in the past 14 months... :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i've never made any, coz my operator doesnt even support it :D. and as far as functionality is concerned, i think Rhodium dialer is the best. lets hope HTC releases a wm 6.5.3 based upgrade for topaz or rhodium :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
LOL...

I would not hold my breath...

Even when Topaz made the jump to Manila 2.5, I was sceptic because of the speed of my device... Now with your TESS, it is the only thing that keeps me with Sense 2.5...

And COM5 is just waay slow for my taste...

I guess the best combination is still COM2 + Sense 2.5 - I get speed + functionality I need.

This is why I am hoping that Prime V would continue down this path, with a newer Sense ( NRG published his new ROM with 2015 and writes that it is the speediest Sense 2.5 to date!)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
a lot of factors contribute to the speed/functionality/stability of a ROM, i wont go too much into details coz it could go on. i started experimenting with COM5 coz a lot of times i've been asked to work on such a ROM. if TESS just means stablity and speed, there is not much room for experiments.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
By all means, experiment! :)

And if you do make a new beta, I would probably be the 1st to flash it! :D

Also, if there is any way to make things work better/faster, I would be happy to help!

Oh, are you currently running the 23568 build?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i dont see a way to dramatically improving the speed of the ROM, just hope for M$ to produce some stable builds now.

yes, still using 23568 build.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
I am still on the beta build as well.

Throughput speed (read/write) is ~the same as COM2, but the screen tearing is killing me!!! I am still trying more and more tweaks to make it go away... :)

But the e-mail client really makes up for everything!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Aman,

How are you progressing with the comparing of files?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
didnt get it....
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Didn't get what? :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
comparing of files query
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
This comparing... :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i haven't had much time this week, so there is no progress for last 2-3 days.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
:D

I am starting to enjoy the 23568 build, actually... It is just sooo finger friendly!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
of course.. and if we get compatible OEMs, the user experience could be even better.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
Did Aman release a 23568? Where???
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Here you go...

POST
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
Thanks!!! I will give this a try now ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
Cannot connect using Active-sync to PC.....IT goes into a loop...blank screen and what not....hard reset 3 times...no go...

Here is exactly what happens:

Load the RUU.

Phone starts perfect.

I connect usb cable to pc and start activesync.

I enter mail server information.

I hit done.

The main screen becomes blank.

After a lot of button pressing, the screen shows the top left corner blink a window (open & close), which I suspect is the device password window (corporate policy to have WM devices have lock). I cannot go past that. I cannot enter anything in the window because it is blinking.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
The problem is the Device Lock.

I just hard reset and went to settings -> Lock and it does not show the window. All it shows is blinking window.

I also did the following:

I did a regedit

HKLM\Security\Policies\00001023 = 0 (Enabled)

and the moment I saved the registry, the window started blinking.

I reverted it back to '1' (disable), saved it and the blinking window disappeared.

So what the heck is going on here???
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
it has an easy fix, go to HKLM\software\microsoft\shell\lockscreen and change "showlockscreenpicker" value to 0.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] zpjotr:
beta feedback

Device stuck, after missed call. I have S2U2 installed, with full screen Caller ID mode. The green led was blinking, but phone didn't respond to power button. I had to remove battery to restart.

I had same problem with different ROMs, but never with prime.

Thx for cooking :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
u could test without S2U2 to see if the problem persists.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
Thank you Aman...I will try and report back.

As usual all other aspects of the Aman 23568 ROM look sweet and mem-friendly!

It works!!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i want to try new manila builds, but my internet is giving me problems for some days and i haven't been able to download the Leo 3.04 ROM. seems like u guys have to wait a bit longer for next beta.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
About bugs: I haven't found any, though I hardly use any addons.

As for Leo 3.04, can I download it and upload it somewhere where you have better access?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
the problem is that my broadband isnt working and i'm on Dialup connection from my mobile :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Argh.... :(

So will you be updating the COM2 or COM5 build with the new Manila?

Right now, I am actually neutral on this, as I find that COM5 is pretty usable (though maybe 10-15% less responsive)...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i wanna try new manila with COM5 first before deciding whether to update it for COM2 also.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Cool! Though I do not know whether Leo 3.04 is COM5 or COM2... It is probably more stable on what it was designed to be run on...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bruce Inman:
Sorry to butt in, but did comm 5 stop development after 23569?

I thought I read this somewhere but can't seem to confirm?

It's my preference.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i also "heard" that, just like you and rest of us :D and the rumors seem true so far.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i think it is COM2. as far as i know, HTC haven't released any shipped ROM with WM 6.5.X so far for any of the existing devices.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
It is COM2. I guess that the new Manila would be better suited with a new COM2 build, then.

Other: Aman, what is "dynamic pagepool" that keeps popping up in current ROMs?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
Oboe has 2015, and not using com2 ;)

Dynamic Pagepool is nothing, a stupid concept named by someone which is not feasible technically as of now :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] neveceral:
I think, that WM 6.5.X only wastes the screen space, so i prefer WM 6.5 :-)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
Although the question was directed to Aman, I will try and take a shot at it.

Under "regular" pagepool, the system allocates a definite amount of paging on the filesystem. With dynamic pagepool, it might be a range from 10MB - 20MB. So initially the allocation maybe 10mb and extends up to 20MB as needed or maybe up to the remaining space on the filesystem....

:confused: :rolleyes: ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
u got it wrong here :)

Pagepool is always fixed, it doesnt vary. i already explained in my post above.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Thanks!

By the wink I sense something good is coming!!!! Am I right or am I right? :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
maybe, i'll try Manila 2015 with this build tomorrow.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Yessss!

BTW, I am still on 23568... I am getting stronger and not flashing every 2-3 days, I've been on your 23568 build since the 2nd day it came out... :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
btw, what made u curious about dynamic PP?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
I am always browsing aroung XDA Dev, and I see it popping up in the newer ROM changelogs...

Other: Would using the Oboe Phone Canvas take care of the incoming call bug in your 23123 beta build?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i heard so, but i dont wanna use it for some reasons: doesnt support 3g calling and it is for GSM+CDMA calls.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Uh-huh.

Well, I would not object, as I never use 3G calls... I do not know how many people actually do...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
maybe not many, but i prefer Rhodium dialer always coz its the only one which has 3g support + call conference + silent on pickup etc
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Every dialer that I tried up until now has the silent on pickup function, but it sometimes has to be enabled via a regedit.

But all in all, you are the chef! :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i really want call conference feature in a phonecanvas, a phone as expensive as 600$ is incomplete and kind of a joke if it cant support conference calls.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
the Topaz 2011 canvas also has conference call function, just not as a button on the dial pad, but as a menu option. are you sure the Oboe canvas has no such option in the canvas menu like the Topaz?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i wont use it, so there is no question of checking :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
Ha Ha Ha.....
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
That's why I wrote you're the chef! :D

And I actually figured as much (for not using it) b/c you would've used it already if you wanted to... :)

In the meantime, I am eagerly awaiting your new creation!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
What is 3G calling?

I see the 3G AT&T banner and the H with the signal bars when using the 23123 ROM from NhatHoa. So I assume I am having 3G calling with 23123 ROM. OR am I misunderstanding something here?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
3G calling denotes video-call... That's it, nothing special...

Apple calls it "face-time" or whatever... Quite funny, like the iPhone is the only new device to have it... :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Aman, did you manage to get the Leo 3.04 shipped ROM?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
guys, join me in wishing blasev all the best coz this is the day when he goes thro the worst nightmare of his life........................................ he's getting married today :D

all the best Blasev, my friend :D :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
yeah i did. i'm however going to try Oboe manila first.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Blasev, all the best to you!

And don't listen to Aman, marriage is good (especially the honeymoon... ;))
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Cool... Because Oboe has 23123 build, which is WM6.5.x already, so that Manila is better suited for that...

BTW, I can not find the specs for the Oboe anywhere... Is it closer to the Topaz or more like the Leo?

EDIT: Stability wise, it would look like this: COM2 with Leo Manila, COM5 with Oboe Manila... :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
even i could not find the specs for Oboe. i'm already using some OEMs from Oboe for a week (like notification enhancement, volume control etc) and they seem to be running fine so far.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Then its not just me... I even went through some Chinese sites (what a mess!) but all in vain... :D

Looking forward to the new ROM... Will it be with 23123 or your last 23568?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
fonts were messed up in 23123, so rather than mixing modules from an old build i would prefer using 23568 build.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Sounds good, at leat we know that it works pretty much as advertised!

BTW: my tweaks did nothing to help the tearing of the screen...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
its a new (beta) build, with old drivers and oems... there will always be some unresolved issues.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
i guess... i also noticed a tiny lag in igo8 this morning, but it started up faster...

i think com5 has its ups and downs as well.

at least if the Oboe Manila was designed for Com5, that would futher enhance the user experience...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i've tested Oboe manila, it doesnt have twitter, stocks, footprint tabs and facebook integration has also been disabled. maybe thats the reason ppl feel it is 'faster'. i dont see anything special in it. home screen has call history in place of alarm, rss reader (i dont like it and dont know how to disable it), 4 column quick launch and sunny animation in weather demo is slow like it used to be with Leo Manila builds.

overall i'm not really impressed, manila 2012 still seems more suitable to me.

EDIT: i'm going to mix Oboe and Leo OEMs to get the most possible updated OEMs for next beta.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Oh.... Then it seems that the Oboe has a faster processor than the Topaz... The call history is a big plus for me, as I use that constantly, and CHT slows down my system too much...

RSS I use, so that's another plus, the sunny animation we can take from the 2012 Manila file, so thats hould be no biggie...

But darn... I was quite hoping that the Oboe Manila would be the holy grail for my Topaz...

Are you planning on using the new input?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
call history is definitely a plus, but not at the expense of Alarm (which i use daily :D). weather animation is already solved. i'm trying Leo manila right now, also gonna test CFC compression this time like i used to do with Manila 2.1

btw, do u know which file does CHT edit to get call history? i could try to edit that file before cooking.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
This file: "5DED22E8_manila" is responsible for the home page, but its heavy lua scripting. Though Cookie has distributed the source for it... Its just over my head...

In the Blackstone forums they are raving about the speed of the new 2016 Manila core (that's the one from Leo 3.04, right?)...

EDIT: for my daily alarm, I use a thing called "kids" :D They wake us up at exactly 6am every morning, even on weekends..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
yeah im using maila 2016 now with CFC compression. i dont have the luxury of "kids" as yet to wake me up early in the morning and i'm also not familiar with lua scripting but i can take a look at it if u can point me to that source (i cant find the file u mentioned in my manila packages).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Here is the source - all credit goes to Cookie.

Since anybody can add a Call History as either a shortcut or a LeftSoftKey, there would be no need to edit the scripts yourself... Just leave Manila as is...

Also, how is the CFC'd 2016 looking? If I had to choose, I would try that one first on my Topaz... :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
alright i'll leave the manila as such. i dont feel much difference in performace, so i'll wait for the feedbacks once i am able to upload a beta.

EDIT: i'll just map the LSK to Call history from now onwards.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
2x hip-hip-horrays!!!

Will it be today? :eek:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] keanyiap:
England vs Germany match today become not a big deal to me since new beta is going to release :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
hmm not sure about today, my broadband is still not working.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Damn broadband... :mad: