yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
hmm not sure coz i think manila works the best only with COM2 builds.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pedrovki:
my d2 doenst open htc sense.

when opening windows , hangs "lauching htc sense"...

and nothing happens...

:S

i've done soft reset...and nothing....

after hard-reset...still nothing...

anyone know what to do ?

thanks all
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] harisg:
What about 21905 then...? I know it's been only 22 days after upgrading but then again some new versions popped up...Do you think they have something better to offer, that deserves the TESS Prime V to come out?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i prefer to use original sources only and so far i didnt find any for 21904/05.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Fair enough... :)

And probably COM3 is not as speedy as the COM2 builds.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] bigdawggs:
Severe battery drain

Hey Aman!!!

I'm using Prime IV right now and I love it! Is there any suggestions for the battery drain I'm experiencing? If I leave my phone on overnight it is completely dead by the time I wake up (7-9 hours later). I'm using the the same radio you're using, do you experience the same? Flashed it with the latest Hardspl (2.51). My bluetooth is on but i remember doing this previously and not having this kind of drain on my battery. Thanks again for an awesome ROM!

Bigdawggs

AT&T Pure

Tess Prime IV

Radio: 04.49.25.91

Hardspl.2.52 OliNex
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i dont have this kind of a problem, my topaz has 3+ days of battery life with little usage. maybe u should try to reflash Prime after flashing the shipped ROM.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] shayan.k:
can u please make a 23xxx rom
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] N'ash:
Hi Aman

I flashed nearly all available roms and now I know nothing is like a TESS! :D especially Pride series the fastest ones.I would donate u as much as i can if i could use paypal (which is not available for my country Iran :( )

but:

1-will be very good to have tess with 23xxx buids as fast and stable as 21xxx ones

2-you update prides late :( 4leos4primes and just 5prides

3-and it will be good to have custom icons on tess why dont you cook special versions?

thanks for your work and good luck Aman
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Prime V

Aman,

Would the new Manila builds from Leo be that much slower? Since HTC Messaging would be disabled, the speed gained would probably be worth it...

Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Flurre666:
Hey,

does anyone know how i can add more alarm ringtones, because the ones that you get are kinda bad and where can i get more alarm ringtones?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
You can get all default ring tones and alarms from here:

[URL="http://www.HTC-Topaz.co.cc/diskstation.html"]BeeGee's Disk Station (faster)[/URL] User [I][COLOR="Red"]xda[/COLOR][/I] Password [I][COLOR="Red"]xda[/COLOR][/I] =>Repository=>Alarm+Ring Tones
[URL="http://www.HTC-Topaz.co.cc/website.html"]Topaz File Mirror (HTTP access)[/URL] =>Repository=>Alarm+Ring Tones
[URL="ftp://ftp.giesecke.tk"]FTP access[/URL] User [I][COLOR="Red"]xda[/COLOR][/I] Password [I][COLOR="Red"]xda[/COLOR][/I] =>Repository=>Alarm+Ring Tones

You can download the complete set or just the ones you need.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] xboxhaxorz:
I have had increased drainage with the last 2 releases. With Prime II battery life was perfect.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] retr0sic:
I constantly gets a fault message telling me something about dialing: can't connect every time i use my data connection, gps or wifi.. Any suggestion what might be the problem here?

I get the settings for mms, wap and so on from my network provider and i've double checked it and that seems not to be the problem here,.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i've had thoughts about making a 23XXX version but didnt get much time of late. pride was based on maila 2.1 and as u are aware that HTC didnt update manila 2.1, so i dont feel the need to update pride anymore. and which custom icons are u talking about?

i'm sure they will be slower e.g. weather animations from Leo based Manila.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] N'ash:
I mean some new icons for slider and apps new wallpaper or anything that makes rom looks new but won't slow it down.

so i'll be waiting for 23xxx builds :)

about pride updates I mean at least wm build update
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i dont feel necessary to just update the WM build as long as there is no major change in them.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Well, this is a Prime thread, so I will keep this Prime.

The only updates right now to Prime IV would be:

Background OEM packages

Latest Office 2010 build

WM build

But it is up to Aman to decide if changes like this are worth a rebuild... :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] steven789:
I've been using Prime IV for few weeks and find it very stable, fast and battery friendly. Just one question, is there anyway to enable automatic capitalize first letter of sentence in messaging (Sense 2.1 style)?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
It should automatically do it with Arcsoft. If you enter a message through the Contact tab, it will not do auto-capitalization, and there is no way to enable it...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
CHT and Prime

For those who want the extra functionality of Cookie's tab but don't like the slowdown, here is a solution:

Install CHT with the following settings:

No quicklinks, 5 bars appointments, show call history and original flip clock without weather.

Does it look familiar? Yes, it looks just like original Manila 2.1.

Is is fast? You bet'cha... No slowdowns, probably faster than stock Snse 2.5 because there is no weather animation to render on the home screen.

Plus! You get the call history and appointments as well!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] keanyiap:
i have install CHT and using analog clock....and yes,its really fast if compare to use flip clock...can see its more fast respond when u tap the home menu button :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] xboxhaxorz:
cht? is that a manilla alternative
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Search for Co0kie Home Tab
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] robclif4d:
Body of emails gone

I'm running Prime IV on a HTC Pure. I have two email accounts set up on the phone...one for work, the other for gmail. I have each set to download the entire message in HTML format every 15 minutes. After the initial read, I can't go back and reread the emails....they body of the email is blank in both Sense viewer and the standard email application.

Has anyone seen this or know of a possible fix?

Thanks,

Rob

UPDATE: Same thing on Leo IV, Tess III.....but I think it has something to do with a Sprite Backup restore session. I'm only restoring My Docs, PIM, and browser favorites....no email, but the restore looks to be messing something up with email on my device. I don't think it's the ROM, but maybe Sprite.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
HTC Messaging

For those of you who would like to use the HTC Messaging client under Prime IV, install the attached cab file. I have been testing this for 4 days now and everything is working as it should.

No secure box, but the client is very fast (for my taste).

All credits go to Wajk in the HD ROM Development section for the cab!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
This has never happened to me before.

I personally never use backup programs, because no matter how careful the programming, they always mess up the new installation somehow...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
What version is that? 2014 or 2015?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
2014.3625.

So there is a 2015 out as well? I'll have to try it... :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
yea....dutty is using it in his ROM...so I hear ;)

Anyways just installed the 3625 over the 2622.

defnitely tweaked for speed. I like it...muchos gracias...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] All.Os:
Hey guys,

has anyone encountered a problem with tapping Start menu? After soft reset I'm able to open Start menu only once and if I close it, it's not possible to open it again. I keep tapping on Start but it won't open until I soft reset the device.

Do you know why is this happening?

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] blasev:
no idea , never happen to me, not even once

maybe hard reset is the only choice to correct this
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] All.Os:
I just found out an interesting thing: this happens only if I actively close the Start menu (i. e. tap [X]).

If I just open Start and run an application, application opens its window and Start menu closes automatically. In that case I can tap Start and open the menu again.

But if I open Start menu, browse it through, go to Settings and do something there and then CLOSE the Start menu, next time it won't open unless i perform soft reset.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] palcuiealex:
The problem with the Start buttons happens with me, but not the first time I start the device. It happens when it runs slow [a lot of programs running] and I also click the X button.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Clound:
Have you installed wkTask? this app, without a bit tweaking, may close the start menu and prevent it to work again until soft reset.

there is a modified version floating around xda.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] xboxhaxorz:
I went back to prime II and i am getting 20% for 24hrs, with prime IV i get 52% for 24hrs. Event though prime IV was more speedy and stable ill stick with prime II since i cant get to charge as often.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] All.Os:
Yes, I have, so this could be the problem... I'll try to find the modified version (unless you know, where exactly I can find it...?).

Thanks for the tip.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] thianlim:
Is it normal when the battery dies after 16 hours of use? I unplug my phone every morning around 8 o clock, and it dies around midnight. I use hotmail (push), and 3G and Bluetooth are always on. Also, RSSHUB is updating every 15 minutes.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mikhe69:
With that usage I think it's normal. 3G it's a huge battery drain
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] xboxhaxorz:
Look 2 posts above yours
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
Aman, I have been testing out 23569 from various cooks and it seems to be working good....see attached screenshots.

I would certainly like to see one coming from your kitchen with the performance tweaks we all expect!!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mplum:
Hi Aman,

i have your latest TESS Prime IV and its great, but I do have to say that this UI look great and I would love to see it in some of your next releases...

BR,

Milan
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] bensaja:
is there any chace to have it in italian?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
just for your information ppl, i've been working on 23568 based ROM today. my net is having problems these days, i'll try to upload a beta in a few days

EDIT: is the "bouncy" effect of kinetic scrolling disabled in 235XX builds?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Good news, Aman! So are you back on the scene? :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] N'ash:
Very good news

Prime & Pride(?) finally with 6.5.x
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] harisg:
What about the new 21907 build? Do you have any plans in upgrading Prime, or you will shift your efforts exclusively to 235xx?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i dont have any plans these days, all depends on my mood :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Can you elaborate on the updates? And how do you find the speed of the new ROM?

Also, are you using Manila 2.5.2012.1225 from Rhodium?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
yeah manila is same. speed seems fine to me, but i cant decide which build to use for beta. there are just too many builds.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Which ones are you contemplating on?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i tried 23568 first, but thats not the latest. so i'm also thinking about 23123 and 23662 (but these are not wm 6.5.5)

u have any recommendations?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
I do not think I am qualified, but since TESS has always been about stability, I would go for the 231xx series, as they are the new stable branch of HTC.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
hmmm yeah i was also thinking about it, because HTC have used that series for Oboe device.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Well, I know that HTC may not get everything right every time, but if they are using it on a device, it should be pretty much stable. :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] torres.sis:
you're the man

what ever you do it will be good for sure, you're the man, thanks for your work aman
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
here's the 1st beta, based on 23123 build, so waiting for some feedback on this.

http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/!Aman!/RUU.rar
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
ARRRGH and I am stuck in Athens, Greece!!! Not able to flash for 4 days! Oh the agony of it... :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Come on, people!!! Not one person has downloaded and flashed it??? :eek:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] empeka:
i'm using new beta for 20 minutes. so far so good. only issue i have encountered so far is lack of letter recognizer, but creating valid registry key solved my problem.

//EDIT

another thing that bugs me is that characters on touch keyboard are bold (it's acceptable with ascii chars, but accented characters often overlaps). haven't found solution yet.

//

same thing with phone canvas.

also displaying of caller is somehow messed up - my friend called me and neither portrait nor phone number was displayed. to check if its repeatable error i called myself from a second number - portrait and phone field was empty as well. In call history correct numbers are displayed, but after taping first entry on list (my second number) phone initiated call to my friend (displayed his portrait and phone no.)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] roynielsen2000:
Downloaded and flashed yesterday. Other than the problem with portrait etc. mentioned in previous post, no problems found so far.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] keanyiap:
probably will flash to 23123 after the fix of bug mention above...

btw, thanks for start cooking 231xx rom :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] szilassitomi:
Hi Aman, I tried your beta, it's fast as expected - no complains about ROM performance :)

Only found one graphical glitch, when returning to home screen, can see Start menu back in top left corner for a second or so (it flashes up there and then disappears). If i click the top part of the screen (when start menu icon flashes up in the top left corner) then WM6.5.x notification menu pops up for me, after the start menu disappears from top left corner, tapping the top part of the screen takes up HTC notification screen...

Otherwise didnt test it for long, since somehow 219xx builds work better for my personal taste so I flashed Prime IV back, hope you get more useful feedback from other peepz :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i'm aware about the mentioned bugs so far. bold fonts is something to do with Build, but it seems easy to solve. and phone canvas problem has been known for a longtime, i'll work on it, but i was more concerned to know the performance of the ROM thats why posted a beta sooner than expected.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] miro666:
Manila 2015 from HTC Oboe not support landscape mode, must turn off in device settings.

Regards
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i didnt use manila 2015 :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] keanyiap:
sorry to ask why dont want to use manila 2015??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i've a feeling that only Topaz/Rhodium Manila builds work best with Topaz.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] qbus00:
Bold fonts are because of new font engine included in stable 6.5.3 branches (detailes here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff599609.aspx).

It looks that it's not 100% compatible with old font system and it appears that EXTs (Phone Canvas and IME Engine) are not fully compatible with it.

If you know the solution please share - lot's of people will be greatfull as this is one of the biggest problem for cookers right now.

The only 6.5.3 branch which does not have this new font engine is branch 235XX which seems to be discontinued :(.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
guess its not so easy after all as i thought at first :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
How about using phone canvas and IME engine from the Oboe?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] qbus00:
There are no WWE packages for Oboe (Koreaneese/Chineese only). We need to either wait for someone who will transalte it or english packages.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Oh... :(

Too bad I do not speak Korean and/or Chinese...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
why don't you take coacing classes for Chinese to help me with translations :p :D?

PS: do u have some idea for a working method to solve "incoming call" issue. and Oboe doesn't support 3G video call.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
I'll look around. Does nhathoa's new rom have the same issue? If not, it could very well be that the new manila 2015 takes care of the problem...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
manila has got nothing to do with these 2 issues. as far as i know, most chefs are mixing files/modules from older builds as a workaround, something i also used to do when i cooked for Elfins, but not anymore.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] qbus00:
In Windows Mobile Chief section of this forum there is a thread where you can find everything you need to patch phone canvas to eliminate all position bugs with 6.5.3 :).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i've tried a few solutions from there, but they dont seem to be working. could u point me to a working solution.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] qbus00:
Sure - just check your PMs :).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
thanks, replied to ur PM, my issue still not resolved.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] torres.sis:
Hi Aman

do you notice the signal network bars are cut on the last one? seams that the icon is more to the right than it should, or maybe the sound icon is more to the left, what coul be this?

Thanks for you help.

it happens this on the last rom version
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
thats been the case with all shipped WM 6.5 ROMs also.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] torres.sis:
So there is nothing to do for now?

ok thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] TeDeV:
hey guys, i was wondering if we are ever going to see an updated version of Tess Prime, thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Uh.... Did you read the last few pages??? He is working on it, bro... ;)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
reuploaded the ROM, with build 23568. fonts and incoming call issues should be solved in this build.

http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/!Aman!/RUU.rar
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Thank you!

Installed everything I need, and also added the 2015 HTC Messaging client as well. Everything is fine until now, no problems detected yet.

One thing, but that is a general 6.5.x bug: In the dialer screen, when only 1 contact is seen, there is a grey line below the contact. No biggie...

Edit: Calls, lists, email are all fine. Overall, the menus also seem a lot smoother!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Aman, how about trying the new Manila 2015? A lot of chefs started using it, and there is good feedback about the functionality and also the speed of it!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
yeah i know that. i wanted to use 23123 build coz it wasnt having this issue, but unfortunately it created more issues which we are not able to solve as yet, so i decided to go back to this old build.

no need to hurry, we can try things one at a time. and u know me, i dont always follow what other chefs are doing :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
:-)

1. In that context, it is worth using the 235xx line over the 231xx line.

2. I know, and lets get rid of any possible bugs that the new 6.5.x line might have, then lets dwell into the new Manila build!

Update: couple of calls and sms'es later, everything is still doing fine!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i guess u have more experience than me in using 6.5.X builds, so i want to know if it is possible to disable WM's notification menu thats visible when we click on top left corner of Home screen.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
I actually just do not tap there... :D

And yes, it is awfull...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
so is it possible to disable/remove it?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] N'ash:
Aman I was wondering if you will work on a Pride series on 23xxx after this :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
right now the answer would be negative. there could be more compatibility issues with old OEMs.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
No, I sadly do not know a way. Supposedly, it is built deep into WM, and no way to disable it. :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
then we need some WWE based shipped ROM from HTC based on 231XX builds like Oboe. they have been really lazy with shipped ROM of late.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Which other devices sport the 231xx line? I'll scourge the web for a WWE build...

Also, then instead of doing the WM6.5 to WM6.5.x transition first and then the new Manila build, how about getting the new Manila build up to speed and then when a decent WWE 231xx comes along, then the WM update takes place?

Just a thought...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i dont think there is a shipped WWE ROM based on 231XX yet. as for manila, i'm not sure if Leo/Oboe based versions are going to work too well, so i'm reluctant to use it.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
I have not tried any of the Leo builds since 1922, but what I have seen with just the Messaging client, it has gotten faster and faster with every build...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chikoo:
Check out my signature...

I am currently running 23569 with v1.8 2016.1228 HTC messaging.

awesome!

Aman, a ROM with your tweaks based upon the same would be a welcome sight!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] paokaras45:
Wow!!!!

Just installed it!

Dont know about builds, about packages about anything!

This is super fast and super light! It fells like an Amans ROM!!!!

Thanks for your effort!!!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
yeah, im gonna try porting more OEMs from Oboe ROM.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
Thanks Aman! So you got your hands on a WWE Oboe ROM, or a translator? :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
neither of them. im just gonna compare the language MUI files, and if i feel they have same version, i'll use from old OEMs.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] kristofpetho:
I guess that's the 3rd best thing! :)

So the base will be a 23123 ROM, but with packages from older ROMs? This should look to be one hellofa ROM!

Edit: And I was just about to start a crash course in Chinese to help with the translations... :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] !Aman!:
i might stick to 23568 build, coz it seems the most compatible with old OEMs.

learning chinese would one hell of a job, u will need a lot of luck identifying words which look nothing but figures/drawings :D