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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] chronicle:
Having a few issues here:

I installed Rasco Audio Recorder 4.62 and when I tick the box for 'Automatically record calls' when a call is made or is incoming the mic no longer works and no one can hear me. Also when I play back the recorded file there is absolutely no audio recorded at all.

Any ideas what's up?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
I have same version 4.62 running; no problems at all. resco is recording but only my voice; the other side is not recorded or just on a low volume the sound what is picked up from the speaker in the phone.

Your problems must have to do something with a different rom and therefor different wavedev.dll what is responsible for the handling of audio in general and especial for the phone.

So please post your rom and or version of the used wavedev.dll in your rom.

I have been trying out the here posted way to solve the problem by installing wow SRS HD in combination with advanced config. No changes at all, still not working. Maybe the poster could tell here his exact settings in advanced config and wow SRS HD as well as the rom he uses and version of wavedev.dll in the rom. Thanks in advance!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] 3rd Eye™:
ROM version 1.66.707.1(76641)WWE

Radio version 2.07.51.22.2

Wow SRS setting

3D EFFECT 100%

CENTER EFFECT 100%

FOCUS LEVEL 100%

DEFINITION 100%

Trubass/Gain

TruBass Level 100%

TruBass Equalizer 40 Hz

Input Gain 0dB

Output Gain 0dB

Advance Config 3.3.0.0

HTC Audio Booster

Bass Level : Very High

Treble Level : Very High

3D Sound Level : Very High

The above are my setting

Hope this will help U
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
Some one already tried this software?

http://www.pocketgear.de/en/usd/device:HTC_HD2/Auto-Phone-Call-Recorder/product_5326841_details.html

it is called Auto Phone Call Recorder 1.30 and has HD2 in compatible devises list.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
like others!!

recording only your voice..

it's impossible !

HTC has blocked it!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
Then the big question is : how they blocked it?

I think it has something to do with the wavedev.dll and some reg-settings.

I was trying to look into the wavedev.dll and compare it with a working wavedev.dll that I was use in my old Diamond that had the same issue before. In the Diamond changing the wavedev.dll and making some reg-edits did the job.

I serious need a good voice-recorder but I don`t have experience with changing dll's.

Someone here has experience in that?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] wickedpenguin:
I believe the issue is a hardware one, rather than a software issue. Speaker is output only and you can't patch to an input for direct record without making a change to the circuit.

Its a design fault with the device Or maybe a design feature it depends who's looking at it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] PanD@:
So how BT driver manage to transmit incoming voice to BT headset. ;) The problem is how and from where to extract incoming signal . Probably we need special Call Recorder for it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
It is absolutely NOT hardware related; maybe a little because the hardware is using another driver/DLL than for instance the Diamond!

When having a phone-conversation audio in and out is compressed and routed "from the micro" and "to the speaker".

the only important thing is that the compressed incoming audio ( normally routed to the speaker, the headset or BT ) is gonna be saved ( and converted / combined ).

The wavedev.dll and/or registery-settings make it impossible until now but a specialist in modifying DLL's / register should be able to make it work the wright way!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
As long as I think it is a driver issue ( wavedev.dll ) and HTC did on purpose keep incall recording out of the HD2 we need to concentrate on drivers and wavedev.dll's of devices with WM6.5 and same Qualcom chipset:

Phones with Qualcom QSD8250 chipset and WM 6.5:

Toshiba dynapocket K02

Release Date: June, 2010

OS: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.5.3 Professional

CPU: 32bit Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, 1000MHz

Toshiba TG02

Release Date: April, 2010

OS: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.5.3 Professional

CPU: 32bit Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, 1000MHz

Toshiba dynapocket KG01 (Toshiba K01)

Release Date: April, 2010

OS: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.5.3 Professional

CPU: 32bit Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, 1000MHz

Toshiba dynapocket IS02 (Toshiba K01)

Release Date: March, 2010

OS: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.5.3 Professional Japanese

CPU: 32bit Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, 1000MHz

Acer neoTouch S200 (Acer F1)

Release Date: October, 2009

OS: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional AKU 5.0.0

CPU: 32bit Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, 1000MHz

Everybody who can help finding out if recording works properly on one of the mentioned devices, or gets a hand on the wavedev.dll and register-settings is helping much to solve this issue!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
"Something very cool here is that the neoTouch can do in-call recording. Finding the resulting recording isn't easy, so I'll make it easy: it's stored in My Documents in AMR format."

as quoted from http://pocketnow.com/review/acer-neotouch-s200-f1?p=2

We need register-settings and wavedev.dll from that device to test!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
+1 on that.

In a coupleof my previous posts I already stated the logical process that demonstrated how the incoming audio HAD TO be manageable (and managed) by software, with several examples on phone functions, but I didn't think about the BT driver. Yours is another clear example of how the software does actually access the incoming audio (because it simply has to) so there must be a software hook somewhere to make it also accessible to third party apps.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
LG Expo settings?

So the Acer phone appears to not be very popular since nobody has the files; however, in looking at the LG Expo forums I found a reference to someone doing a test with ACR/ICR and it worked. See http://www.lg-expo.com/general-lg-expo-discussion/recording-a-phone-call/

The LG Expo ROM has been dumped per this XDA thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611429

Anyone with the skills, and an HD2 to test, want to dry and pull the necessary dll from the LG Expo ROM to see if it works on the HD2?

Thanks.

James
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
Since it uses the snapdragon as well, in theory it should be sufficient to copy its wavedev.dll over to the hd2, test. if it doesn't work just restore the original, and ask the savvies to check the dll more thoroughly :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dallastx:
I have a HD2 but and had a NEXUS both have same issue no in call recording because of the way the sound is routed.....I don't know enough about phones to narrow down to a hardware or software issue. Any of the newest HTC phones except Droid cant use ICR no matter what OS they have and designed totally different.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
LG Expo Tweaker Program

More evidence that call recording on the snapdragon chipset is possible via the LG Expo Tweaker program: http://www.wmexperts.com/lg-expoiq-tweaker-v102-fix-yer-phone

Anyone with an HD2 want to try using the LG Expo tweaker program on the HD2 to see if it can enable ICR?

Thx.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DopeWeasel:
Sorry if this has already been mentioned (tldr):

I enabled ICR on my TMOUS HD2 by following a few simple reg tweaks I saw on pocektnow.com...

Method 1 - registry edit:

Create a key called "AudioRecording" in "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\" and inside that key you've created, add a new dword called "Enabled" with a value of 00000001. Create a key called "Voice" inside "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft" and inside that new key create two dword entries called "EnableCallRecordMenuItem" and "AllowInCallRecording", both with the same value of 00000001. Soft reset your device and you're set!

http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/how-to-enable-windows-mobile-native-in-call-recording
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] dallastx:
Yea mos tknow of this tweak. The original cab/reg tweak works the other party is just not loud enough on HD2...Unless your talking to someone who talks loud, the complete conversation is not always audible.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pedrovay2003:
Unless I'm doing it wrong, I can confirm that the LG program doesn't work. :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
Arghhhh.....! :-(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] pedrovay2003:
Yeah, that's what I said, too. :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
you don't need to install a program, there are other great tools for that for the hd2, like acr.

what you need is probably try to drop on the hd2 the wavedev.dll from the lg :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] low-dogg:
Bump... Comon XDA you can do it!!!!:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
Well , just dumping the working wavedev.dll from another phone with same chipset and os is not gonna work!

I've got the acer-drivers and can asure you that when I look into the DLL that all dependencies are different than in our HD2.

Just overwriting your HD2's wavedev.dll with one from the Acer 's DLL is not gonna work.

I have no experience with changing / modifying dll's , but if someone cab do this?

The attached wavedev.dll is from the acer F1, WM6.5, snapdragon.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
mhhh..at this point..i do not know
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] DrBasem:
we cannot lose hope

it's simply not an option

I wonder, what could be a real motive for experts around here to put in serious effort and solve the puzzle?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tigro11:
guys I tried everything, but ICR can not get it going with HD2.

No one has solved the riddle?

thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] fei001213:
It's HTC's responsibility to solve this issue, What's HTC's attitude ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tigro11:
want to wait intervention HTC ......:rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
Simple, NO NEED for HTC to do anything about it! The phone was not supposed to ICR, changing DLL/ROM for making it possible is an investment en in legal terms : ICR is not everywhere allowed in the world.

HTC is not gonna do anything for us. The problem can be solved technical. Maybe one of the real master on XDA want to take a look at it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
corrected :p

EDIT: didn't need correction :D my bad!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tigro11:
hope you put hand
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] SpiritRC:
ephestione, the fact that you can change the volume of the party's voice and see a graphical response doesn't in ANY way mean that there is a path (as in "wire") that the party's voice travels from the GSM part of the chipset to its audio input. It may pretty well be wired directly from the GSM receiver/decoder to the speaker, the minijack, and the bluetooth module.

As an IC engineer by education and Linux kernel programmer by job title, I assure you that the volume rocker may simply result in some value to be written in some volume control register, and the value read from that register is used to draw a volume bar that you see as "graphical response".

If on your screen you saw a waveform of the incoming voice, THAT would be a proof, but the volume rocker and volume bar AREN'T.

What indeed may be a proof of software problem is if there are devices

with exactly the same GSM+Audio hardware that CAN do the 2-way ICR.

I'm not familiar with the specs of Snapdragon and so I can't tell whether

or not it is sufficient for the device to just use Snapdragon. It may be required to have some external circuitry/wiring or even additional ICs to be present for the feature to work.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Niker84:
Without having to read this thread from the beginning can somebody summarize what app or tool to use in order to record calls...

Thx guys :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] brynweb:
Right now, that 'tool' would be 'some other phone'.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
...you got me there. Ach!

Admitting my reasoning is no certain proof of what I sincerely count on (Which by itslef shook me quite a bit), isn't it still very unlikely that they preferred to have the incoming call audio go into completely separate hardware ways than the central processing unit?

As in "wouldn't it have been silly to design the phone so that there are different 'wires' transporting call audio instead of simply having the software render it unaccessible by driver design?"

great reply :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Gotheat:
Did we not have the same problem with the HTC FUZE. It took a new dialer and a ICR cab to get it to work right?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
got a quick one for you.

i'm now sunbathing in my yard Connected with WiFi, listening to music with mortplayer and a bluetooth Motorola s9 .

Does outgoing audio to bluetooth get routed to thebbt drivers via hardware as well without passing through CPU? :p
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jjollyroger:
+1, resco audio recorder v4.51 works well on Artemis 9 ROM .I think the low volume on other side of the call is due to the fact that it records via microphone , but the sound is clean and is not a big problem, just have to pump up the volume in playback
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
try recording in a noisy environment (like during the evening in a busy restaurant) and the only thing you'll hear clearly is your own voice, and a lot of background noise.

I had a woman stalk me one evening while I was in such a place, and guess what, nothing was hearable from the other side. No funny audio clips to play to friends :mad: :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] jjollyroger:
next time go answering in the toilet, your friends will thank you :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] KlimovS:
About bluetooth:

msdn .microsoft .com /en-us/library/ee495578.aspx

1 qw. how to use "Audio Gateway Service"
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
I couldn't grasp much of that not being an "insider", yet from what I get it talks about the audio subsystem for the device (so where all the audio goes through, both music and in/out call voices), and about drivers.

That is, software management of the data transmission, that is ultimately yet one more clue ICR should be possible
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
48Hours UP..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] norikohxb:
I plan to change my HD2 to another 1GB CPU phone supports ICR.

anyone can recommand one.

I think should give HTC some lesson to know that if their WM machine doesn't support IRC.

we will give up it!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] epdm2be:
I've heard that the Acer Neotouch F1 has incall-recorder.

Normally you can test it through Windows Notes which has a record button. I discovered it on my Samsung SGH-I900 (omnia 1) with the standard Windows dialer which let you activate Notes during a call. I noticed that the record function recorded both parties excellent. Then I tried Resco Audio Recorder and Vito's Audio Notes touch. Both worked excellent on the Omnia 1.

I'm unsure if WM6.5 has the same Notes capabilities as WM6.1 or if this is hardware restricted. I'm aware that older HTC phones like Diamond and diamon pro have incall-recorder.

Anyway. I discovered that on the Omnia 2 I8000 it didn't work either. So it seems that the newer WM6.5 phones lack this feature.

It's the only reason why I'll stick to this Omnia 1 for as long as possible. Audio Notes Touch works excellent and silently in the background. It has a lousy screen but as a phone nothing can beat it!

Anyway. since the i900 is dying breed I have to look for alternatives. If Windows smartphones can't deliver then I'll go to Android or any other kind that does. Which means that for now I'll have to revert to dumb Sony-ericsson phones whom all have incall-recording as standard. It appears that current Android models have the same incapabilities as their current WM-counterparts. Funny though, from what I've read online, the HTC Hero appears to have incall-recording but current top-class Desire or Google Nexus don't.

BTW. Does Symbian still have this capability?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] le_cactus:
Switching to Symbian? Don't make me laugh :)

Seriously, why don't the experts miss ICR. I'm sure they would be able to solve this if one of them would take a serious look at it.

Cheers,

/Cacti
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
UP...forever...until hd3...

and afetr...<UP...forever...

XDA has limits...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] norikohxb:
if HD2 never supports ICR

will never buy HTC's mobile phone again. until HTC announce their phone supports it.

there is not only HTC to use.

we can use Samsung ,LG,

why there has the only choice.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] norikohxb:
symbian is not worse thant WM

do thinkWM is the best.

it is just the most popular,because of PC OS reason.

but if HTC or Microsoft still make stupid machine/os

why not give up?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Nilee:
hi, i'm not sure if this one works on the htc hd2, but it did work on my old htc diamond 2. but now i have htc hd2 so i have to test it out
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] starbase64:
Hi,

your cab includes Reg entries already known.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\AudioRecording]
"Enabled"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Voice]
"EnableCallRecordMenuItem"=dword:00000001
"AllowInCallRecording"=dword:00000001

with friendly greet

starbase64
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
oopppsssss
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Nilee:
what's up//
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
up........................
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] morgej:
LG Expo

All-

FWIW, I couldn't take the slow performance of my Tilt2 any longers, so picked up an LG Expo off of Amazon.

I installed the "Expo/IQ Tweaker" from http://www.lg-expo.com/third-party-lg-expo-applications/expoiq-tweaker/ did a reboot, installed Vito Audio Notes, enabled Auto Call Record in Vito Audio Notes, and I am good to go.

I now have a Snapdragon powered Windows Mobile phone with ICR that works for both handset calls, Bluetooth calls, and Speakerphone calls with loud and clear recordings of both sides of the conversation.

For any of the technically inclined folks on this thread, let me know if there is anything I can send you from the Expo which might help with getting ICR enabled on the HD2.

Note, I am still running the stock ROM, but will be trying Dark's 6.5.x ROM shortly.

Thx.

James
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] peter515:
Did you test the cab?does it work?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
I am at my wit's end, and also noone of the developers seem to be really interested in enabling this function. Anyway, posting the wavedev.dll and waveapi.dll files in your \Windows folder as a zipped archive attached to a post in here MAY be useful to someone... at least I am counting on it :rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] zaharakis:
don't anybody reads in this thread??

stop trying and trying and grumbling for this issue!!!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
ok then, please show us the hardware sheets of the hd2 where it's clear that it's a hardware issue and not a software one... until that's proven, it could very well be just a software limitation.

Actually, I would like for someone to demonstrate it's a hardware issue, because at least in that case I would definitely give up waiting for a "fix"; yet, until now, it's always been about people (me included) arguing it "should" be hardware or software related, without any certain proof.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] zaharakis:
i don't understand why you need proofs ...

as i say in my previous post,the device writes what it hears only!!and this you can see it easily,if you connect a bl or cable hands free..;)

i wish this i'm telling,to be lie and someone will find a solution,but and if not that happened,personally i can live with this issue..

Dimitris :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
from what I understand, other users have reported the exact same problem with previous HTC phones, Blackstone included, where the full duplex ICR wasn't active until someone released a software mod in order to use it.

Also in that case, all that happened was that the phone recorded only the audio that reached the mic.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] enobrec:
but...have we a reply from someone of XDA DEvelopers ..in this 3d?

one only?

i do not know them....i am sorry....i just ask..is there one of them in this 3d..with his opinion ??

only one reply..??

just curious...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Sammy88:
hi everybody,

i can do recording but when i would edit the option into the programm menu by clicking on the tape

i get : ICR is not sign with trusted certificate or one of his composent isn't findable...

sorry for the bad translation

many thanks

sam
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] alfamini:
Maybe you should read more about WM-OS, and GSM-technology to make statements like this here.

Every phone, independent OS, is getting scrambled Audio in and out when making a call. The audio is scrambled by an allogaritme that makes it not easy to listen for people by receivers.

The way the audio is coded and compressed is done by protocols, you can compare that with MP3 for music for instance.

Also the HD2/Leo works like this. The chips used in our devices are not very different than other snapdragon-based devices that CAN record in and outgoing.

What every call-recorder does is converting , both incoming and outgoing audio-stream, already decoded, save in a normal used audio-format.

The only reason why HD2 cannot record both ways is because of different drivers/Dll's that are responsible for audio-streams / decoding-dll's for GSM during the call.

Same problem was before with de Diamond, replacing wavedev.dll did the trick. There is not yet any good dll for the HD2. Using the dll from the Acer is not gonna work because all other information in this dll is based and points to other dll's and drivers with names that are not present in HD2-rom.

I personal have no skills and experience in changing Dll's, but I am still convinced that someone who has the skills and aknowledge of WM, and compares the roms and the responsible DLL's from HD2 and Acer, he can change our HD2 Dll's/Rom so that the HD2 can record both sides.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] carmendel:
+1 OK... Thanks for your opinion. I'm right with that.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Sammy88:
nobody have an idea or a topic which describes the same problem, i have found nothing :(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
if call recording is what you need install ACR 1.2.3 and that should work for you, even if you will have very bad quality on the other end.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] Sammy88:
thanks for your quick answer ephestione, but certificate issue couldn't be fixed with something, i remember i have to do something with my old SPV M600 aka Qtek s200 prophet...

thanks !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] ephestione:
I suggested you to use ACR since, whatever the certificate problem may seem to be caused from, noone ever reported problems with certificate validation with ACR and HD2 in ACR's thread :)

So, unless you already tried ACR and had the same problem, you may want to test it anyway ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] norikohxb:
all of us please give up HTC for his stupid decision

buy ohter 1G HZ hignend Mobile phone

give up HD2