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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Salvatore1982:
Hi there :)

Please pardon my english.

I was wondering the same too. I know the post is old, but as I managed to install WM6.5 on an ipaq hx2490... actually I think it is a matter of drivers :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Simonas0:
If you want android, you will compile Linux Kernel for your phone (needs PC running Linux). But if you aren't a programmer, I recommend you - don't try, you can crash your PC and phone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] claudiu.b4d34:
How can I intall WM6 in english on my HP iPAQ hx2490b ?

I specify that I don't have a rom of WM6.
[HD2 General] Luapo:
My wifi icon is greyed out meaning I can't turn in on? Any else got this problem?
[HD2 General] panart:
Is your device connected with a pc in activesync mode?

Wi-fi cannot be used if you're syncing your device.
[HD2 General] Luapo:
Legend, cheers. Thought i disabled it, but the cable was still in.

Thanks again mate.
[HD2 General] serenity373:
Hello members, i got my HTC HD2 yday and got to admit have been playing with my new gadget since then. I come from symbian platform and this is my first WinMo (hence some basic questions, so pls bear with me)

1. I have a WPA-2 wifi authentication in my home and have mac address based access. I couldnt find the mac address of my hd2. I see a mac add under bluetooth section but not for wifi. it has to be simple mayb am overlooking it somewher. as i said getting used to winmo.

2. have few more but will let my curious mind to search for the answers by playing with it more before asking questions.

many thanks.
[HD2 General] TartanArmy:
MAC can be found in Start/Tools/Comm Manager/WiFi press Advanced button then advanced tab :)
[HD2 General] tibursio:
Note that WiFi must be turned on, else it won't display the Mac-Adress, but I guess you know that already.
[HD2 General] serenity373:
thanks a lot guys. i bet i went there before(advanced section) but missed the obvious :)
[HD2 General] vivek07:
You guys are awesome

Thank you so much...all of you! I registered on this site just to post this reply.:)
[Touch HD General] shadowdx:
Recently downloaded the package from this link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=562952

I love the design and all, im new to this forum, my friend introduce to me here.. anyways im just wondering if anyone mind explaining how i could do this and upgrade my Brand New HTC Touch HD to this package i downloaded from that link above? my current Version OS is WM 6.1 do i have to update to some kind of WM 6.5 Before i can flash this Rom onto my mobile or wat? or can i already just flash it straight from WM 6.1 straight to this File?

can anyone help me with this...?
[Touch HD General] beakerav:
hi shadowdx, welcome to this wonderful and supportive site.

Everything you need is contained within the site, all the info you need to successfully flash your fone, add useful apps and tweak away to your hearts content.

Can I respectfully suggest you take some time to research and digest the info you need, starting with the Wiki here . .

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone

Take your time and small steps, if you get stuck on anything there are many wonderful and experienced users that will happily help you out.

I hope you enjoy your Touch HD and using this site as much as I do.
[Touch HD General] wingtytn:
i recommend u sit down and take a look at at the different threads. look for the things u may want or even like to know about any questions u hav first search for it because it may hav already been asked about before u post the question
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Thewizzz:
Hi there,

I used to use the folowing cabs:

Stock Homescreen AllBg HD - Tore edition.cab

Stock Homescreen HD - Tore edition.cab

Unfortunately these don't work with manila 2.5 anymore. Does anyone know something exists for the new manila 2.5?

Here's the URL to the original topic:

Orignal topic
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HTCwannabe:
hey friends,

I'm still wondering about these two.

is there a way to put the android 2 and sense in the touchpro 2?

that's a consideration for the phone.

regarding droid, well, i hear motorola still trying to regain themselves and i had no good experience with their phones (especially voice quality and performance), so i'm not so sure about the droid.

moreover, i'd like to hear you guys out, if the answer for android 2 to TP2 is a YES, which one is better, the hero or the TP2?

how's the user experience with small-medium palms with the keyboard?

how's the performance? lag time? loadbalance?

how's wm6.5?

preety much noob in all that stuff, but still i have so many answers missing. internet reviews are not that helpful though, not comparing to XDA anyway :)

please, you're help.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] BrokenPixel:
There is no info because it can't be done. You can't run android on TP2 at the moment, and if it happens to run on it, you will have to boot WinMo first so that being said, you will sort off be running 2 os's... so speed will be slow, might as well stick with WinMo 6.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HTCwannabe:
Thanks,

I was hoping for a summarized reply :)

now,

I'm NOT a buisness user, but i'm moving on to work in QA.

I'd like to have excel and word on my phone,

i'd like the thought i can run pc-like apps for winmo (say dosbox for running games) or a lot of others (heroes of might and magic?),

i like customizations, i guess i'll sometime NEED push emails to my phone,

web browsing is actually not so issue to me, unless it's the ONLY alternative.

so i guess winmo is better for me?

or does the hero can do the job? (is it true it gets android 2? sense too?)

which OS is better for me?

i'm looking at the near future but i cannot see past to the long run, so i really have no idea which one to take on both phones. Keyboard can be VERY useful for writing documents and playing games \ browsing i guess.

can u play games that require buttons on the hero?

and a noob question, can i run XP apps on winmo 6.5 or do they need to be adjusted for it?

a lot of questions but they'r the branches of the original, i'd apretiate the answers. The main idea is to take something that may fit my needs & usage, and not something needs to be suited for them.

thanks again.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rick94:
I say you should go for WM.

Just because you are going to use word excel and other programs.

This just isn't possible on Android. (yet)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bradaland:
Same question

I hear ya HTCwannabe

I am deciding on the TP2 vs Hero for my wife who will be using for business function more than movies, pics, movies and games.

I went and saw both at a local store to actually see them and feel the hardware. Both are quality construction.

I have to say, Android is great, but, as a business user, I have to say that WM is the better way to go and having the keyboard is great too.

Not to say Android won't become more introduced into the business world, but Android is just hitting puberty with 2.0.

I really want to give Hero a chance and "make it work", but too scared.

Probably going with TP2 for now after I do a bit more research.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] q426669:
First of all, I can edit Excel and word docs on my G1, so that is NOT WM only.

Second of all, Hero runs on version 1.5 (Cupcake). HTC has not updated to Android 2.0 (Eclair) for the Android version of Sense. I'll be honest with you, I switched from Android to the TP2, for one reason, Android is a battery hog. With a $50 extended battery (That added significantly to the size of the phone) I got less then 10 hours of battery. The task management is pretty much crap on that device right now.

So if you need a phone that'll last for at LEAST a day (Heavy Internet/AIM/Skype/SMS/Phone calls) and that has a good speaker phone, you are going to want to go with the TP2.

If you don't care about Battery, want free turn by turn directions, an AWESOME App market, then you want to get an Android device. *EDIT* Also way better games on WM. I have Warcraft 2, and Age of Empires. You can't just run programs from XP, it has to be modified/ported over. However, as I said, I have the full version of Warcraft 2, so it obviously can be done. If anyone finds StarCraft/Quake 2, and sends me a PM, you'll be my best friend! lol :D

I have heard a RUMOR (from an unverified internet blog/thread) that when the HTC HD2 arrives in America, it will have two flavors - Android, and WinMo. So you may want to wait till the HD2 is out, because if it does come out in two flavors, I'm positive someone will get it to dual boot, or you will at least be able to change from one to the other with a simple flash. (Assuming of course that they stick identical hardware into both devices.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
Although I'm kinda biased, I'd say the Touch Pro2 is the way to go. It's an excellent device, the best I've ever had. As others have said, Android is still kind of young, and not the best quite yet. Also, as someone else has mentioned, the battery life is abysmal. I ran it on my HTC TyTN II and I couldn't get a full day out of it. On the same device, I could go 2 days without recharging.

Regarding Android on the Touch Pro2, it is possible. However, it is NOT possible at this time. The developers are still working on hardware support. Eventually, they will release a .zip file with all the necessary files. You put them on your SD card, and run an executable which will start Android and kick Windows Mobile out of RAM. This means that for now you still have to boot WM before you boot Android. And also, you might have to wait a while before stuff like the camera, GPS antenna, and keyboard are fully supported. After a while, they'll probably be able to get Android fully working. Also, there is a project that is centered around getting linux natively booting with code injection, but that's gonna move slowly.

As for the HD2 Android rumor, I don't believe that will happen. HTC should be releasing a device with comparable specs to the HD2, except with Android.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zarpy:
Touchpro2

I have touchpro2 and this is my opinion based on friends of mine that have android

1)battery power- android on heavy use only last 3 hours max...touchpro2 7-8 hours.

2) All buisness apps plus voice quality ,internet sharing,etc. right out the box. No updates requires.

3)As far as games konami has signed a contract to make games for touchpro2 so in 1-3 month you see major improvement plus lots of freeware games you can find online.

4)windows mobile will be able to run android later on anyway...so whats sense of buying android lol!!!

The only advantage android has is its a little faster and thats about it. For now they have better selection of games by a little margin. Windows Mobile is the way to go. In couple days I will release a 6 level arcade shooter for free so that should help your gamming fix. Any other questions just ask
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
I really don't understand the idea of "heavy usage" being given here for the TP2.

There is no way I could get more than a few hours of heavy usage out of mine. If I have a really slow data connection it improves battery life because it stops the thing heating up but with full on HSDPA the battery gets eaten through really very quickly. A flight doesn't haveto be delayed for very long before I have to reach for the charger.

And that's without using the GPS. Have you tried walking about with Google Maps connected to HSDPA and GPS whilst getting calls over bluetooth? Battery life is really only 2-3 hours, if that!

This has been pretty much the same (although the TP2 is the best) with every HTC device I have ever owned.

I am not saying Android is any better but I'm not sure if it's the OS, more the number of features sucking the power.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Where did I say overheat ?

I gets warm/hot depending on definition and every HTC device I have had does the same when dealing with high data throughput, just like the Wifi card on your PC will warm up when transferring large files. It's normal, but it's also a waste of battery power.

Anyway, it's kind of difficult to compare the power usage of an OS without having the exact same hardware to test both on.

Has this ever been done ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zarpy:
Yes in a way

Well right now as it stands no one has the same OS on both systems but even with half of the programs that touchpro2 has the G2 last less. But I talk facts and not my opinion. So the only thing I can compare is this.

With internet on only surfing thru websites no downolading the G2 last about

2hours45 minutes. Thats 15 minutes less than testers of large magazines said it lasted.

Touchpro2 with internet on surfing thru websites and downloading (i couldnt resist saw some apps) lasted about

6hours 25 min. Me and my friend david( G2 fanboy) did the test. The only variable is david had his phone for 10 months and I had mine 8 months. But I dont think 2 months could have put a dent in his battery that bad. Anyone else test this out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Not very scientific
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zarpy:
go on cnet then

1. Iam not a scientist lol .

2. Thats the best I can do...I really dont know what your looking for. I just compared battery power.

3. If you want to be very detailed I did a search for you ...go on google type...cnet reviews G2..

4)then after that type..cnet reviews touchpro2..

5)Finally everyone here tries to help there no need for sarcasm. I always try to find answer for anyone who asks. Enjoy your cnet reviews . peace.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Sorry if I didn't find you and your friend browsing the internet on your phones a good comparison of two OS' power usage, and those two reviews still aren't comparing the same hardware.

Without a comparison in which all other influencing factors are ruled out it is impossible to reach any conclusion either way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zarpy:
what?

1. Both phones will never have the same hardware or software. Microsoft and google are 2 different companies aiming for different uses.HTC produces both according to what the companies are aiming for. So that comparision will never happen. Its just not possible.

2. Mircosoft doesnt put consideration into games or total speed. Microsoft concentrates on buisness and navagation apps. Microsoft also has better and more frequent updates to thier OS. The bad part is sometimes Mircosoft OS is slow.

3.Android is more a youth movement. Games and apps for teens to young adult is googles focus. Google doesnt recieve updates regularly so critical errors in thier OS usually dont get fix without a long waitinig period. Android however is faster as far as interfacing and jumping from app to app.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dik23:
Well, I do think that there are some people on this board that would like to disagree on your first point since they are currently trying to make Android work on the TP2 and other WM devices. "It's just not possible" is a bit strong.

You may be correct with the Microsoft concentrating on business but since when have they released any navigation software ? If it exists please give me a link. I know there are a lot of 3rd party navigation apps and Google have their maps and new navigation app (only for Android 2.x in the US at the moment). But Microsoft ?

And saying that WM is slow in comparison is, yet again, impossible to gauge without a proper test, trying to exclude other factors.

I'm not sure about this teen thing with relation to Android either. Apple maybe. And the idea that Google doesn't release fixes quick enough kind of misses the point of open source. I'm aware certain parts of any released Android firmware are closed but the fact most of it's open means that you don't have to wait for a fix, you can do it yourself, or if you're not that way inclined you can get a fix from people who are. With Microsoft, however, you do have to wait and that is that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zarpy:
conterpoints

As far as running android on touchpro2 , if it happens, I put money on it that touchpro2 will run the android OS faster than G2. The reason I say this is because touchpro2 handle on a daily basis way more programs. With Andriod it comes with the basics internet,google maps,youtube,clock, calender,notepad, sorry Iam having a hard time listing cant think of too much that it comes with.

Windows Mobile touchpro2 I dont even have the time to list

what it comes with but I know you already know.

As far as navagation I dont really use much except for what comes with the touchpro2 is good but I have seen some in these 2 websties www.freewarepocketpc.net and

www.wm6software.com . Hope that helps if I have some time later I find direct links for you.

As far as making applications I only know the basics of making games for touchpro2. If you want to and have time I invite you to my website , its the link on my signature. I enjoy debates like this one , Iam glad I could find someone who can hold intelligent conversation like you without flaming.

I have only 1 question why is it just you and me in this conversation , I was hoping more people would join in , this topic we are discussing is not complex. I was hoping someone else with access to both phones like me would have run a test too and see what thier fesult was.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chrystalrox:
I moved to the Touch Pro 2 from the G1 (still have it), and I have to say that I get MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better battery life from the Touch Pro 2 than I EVER did from the G1. The Android OS has no task manager (w/o it being rooted/cooked, which I have) and even then, it won't end every application and doesn't save much battery life. The Android OS was less dependable (IMO,) ex: my alarm was unreliable due to sometimes me waking up and it would give me a process error... My Touch Pro 2 would never have that issue (which was recurring atleast 3 times a week on my G1.) I don't know that i would necessarily say that the Android OS is "faster"... but just that it does run "smoother" than sense... I loved Android, but it did happen to be kind of a children's phone (I'm only 22 lol!) and I am in the military so I have to have a very reliable phone! Just my opinion... No "scientific testing" or anything... But I do believe that Zarpy is probably pretty correct in his findings whether they were scientific or not~
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zarpy:
army!

If your in military I will assume you like shooting games. This freeware shooter might be fun for you to play try it here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5289209#post5289209

enjoy!
[Touch HD General] osavioro:
Does anybody noticed that the actual width of the browser is 240px and not 480px ?

A simple javascript alert(screen.width) is reporting 240px in both stock IE and Opera.

I noticed that because I'm trying to make a mobile site and I've spent quite a lot of time debugging 'out of canvas' images.

Can you please report what is your actual browser width? It will be interesting whether this happens only in my stock European ROM or in all other ROMS.
[Touch HD General] osavioro:
Anyone ?!?!?

At least ... does anybody know where can I find something like settings for IE or Opera.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] minisean:
Hi, The phone icon at the top (next to speaker, battery, etc. icons) displays an exclamation mark (!), and when I tap it, it says 'No Service'. I clicked on Settings and went to the Network tab then clicked Find Network, but it still doesn't connect to any network. However, it still shows 3 or 4 signal bars when I tap it for the first time and then it brings up the larger icons, but it doesn't connect to the network.

I am on Orange UK, and the phone can connect to GPRS / 3G, but not to the actual network.

Sorry if anything is unclear btw

Thanks in advance :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Rudegar:
have you typed in the sim code?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] minisean:
Sorry, i'm not sure what you mean? I went into an Orange shop and he activated the Sim, and said it should be ready in 24 hrs, however it still does not work over 24hsr later.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] che27:
any help for this?

i have the same problem...

sometimes i get reception, but only when the G-icon on top is not showing (but only H or E-Icon). I tried removing and disabling all 3G stuff, but still doesnt work.

Guys, any help?
[HD2 General] VanKurt:
Hi guys!

Since the HD2 doesn't seem to support OpenGL ES 1.0 (at least all the apps run slow as hell) I wanted to aks you how to get OpenGL ES 2.0 going?

Currently I'm working with C# and use this nice wrapper: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2008/08/net-compact-framework-wrapper-for.html.

As mentioned above apps created with this wrapper don't work well.

So: where can I get some info on 2.0? Are there any wrappers for C#? Or do I have to use C++ (which wouldn't be much of a problem ;))?

Wehere can I find Librarys, tutorials, samples, code etc?

Sydly Google doesn't bring up much (seems the world is switching to iPhone/Android)....

ANY help would be much appreciated!
[HD2 General] Luapo:
How complecated is the wrapper? Could it be easily converted to use the new 2.0 calls instead of the old ones?
[HD2 General] VanKurt:
Good question. Until now I just used it and never took a look "behind the scenes". Maybe it's time to change that :-)

Is there something like an OpenGL ES 2.0 SDK? Any kind of documentation? What are the differences between 1.0 and 2.0?
[HD2 General] smartphone.net.pl:
Anyone managed to get it working on HD2?

Installed both software and certificates. Already tested all COM ports, on some received error, on other it says "TMC DRIVER ACTIVE".

"Sound output" is set to Headset, and "Mute radio" is set to "tuned sound" which should give radio sound in my headset and TMC data on screen.

But no matter which COM port i choose, there's i can hear just nothing. Not even a noise.

I assume there's possible incompatibility between software and HD2.

Any ideas?
[HD2 General] JJKameR:
Different drivers to deal with.

I suppose a new version will be out soon that will work on our HD2.
[HD2 General] Traxter:
Is there already something in progress right now?
[HD2 General] seed_al:
I don't think so. Just look at the HyperGPS thread, there has been no update for a long time. Probably nobody is working on it anymore.

Or does someone have different info from the developers?
[HD2 General] tomasz:
With no breaktrough in GFMAPI, it will not help to look at HyperGPS yet.

Flywhc and some others are still working on the TP2/HD2 (both have the same FM-radio). So far, they have not yet been succesfull.

To keep an eye on the progress, or if you can help, follow this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=497977&page=82
[HD2 General] MeowMeowMan:
I noticed that even when I click on the Menu->Update Now or the circle arrow icon (top right), it does not refresh with the latest tweets (as compared to the the web). I have to go to the Task Manager and do a Menu->End All Tasks (and btw, Twitter/Peep is not displayed as an app in Task Manager), go back to Twitter/Peep and the new tweets are refreshed. Anyone else experience this?

P.S. I do not have Dowload Tweets Automatically checked in the settings.

Meow
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] bondarun:
Hi Guyz

Is it possible to use my Pc internet connection on my HTC viva..

I have Bluetooth dongle and USB cable...

Pls guide me guyzz....

Thanks...
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] TheRem:
yes. install ActiveSync and just plug in your USB cable. ;)
[Touch Viva, MDA Basic General] bondarun:
can u give me a brief tutorial of how to do it...

Pls