yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cityslicker:
I think if it was possible to have some form of timeframe say in a week or month so it would help? If everyone is like me some idea would help a lot :).

I'm resisting experimenting with the various stock ROMs until the we can use cooked ROM's with all the best bits. Again not looking for for the nearest minute just a rough idea please would be grateful and appreciate the efforts by the team?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] BenPope:
It's not that difficult to understand is it?

Reverse engineering software on a microcontroller is hard. There isn't a defined set of time-sliced steps that you have to follow. Even if there was, we're talking about people who are doing this in their spare time, coming up to holidays... they probably don't want to commit to spending specific amounts of time on this.

Can't we just be patient?

I don't see a need for anything more to be said in this thread unless it's constructive. A constant stream of "Are we there yet?" followed by "No", followed by "How long?" followed by "When it's ready" is just tedious and frustrating. If everybody stopped that noise, the next time this thread has a post, it could be good news.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Drakknar:
Well, apart from Cmonex effort, I think it's very interesting to follow the progress that kholk and gauner are doin on the HSPL/JumpSPL side and reading the infos/docs they post about the topic. I still won't be able to create an HSPL by myself, but those are some very interesting things to read :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
This is why the thread got closed! it will be here when it arrives and exactly what difference does it make if you know a time/date or not.

we are all waiting so wait.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cityslicker:
A question was asked an answer received. Thats what a forum is all about?

Unless I am mistaken. People are rather sensitive on this one? Merry christmas everyone :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
Okay, it's just about to clarify some things about that, for preventing future locks of the thread.

What you CAN and what you CAN'T ask

You can ask technical informations about our work and/or future projects for SPLs.

Instead, you can't ask the ETA at every thread page. This is why the thread were closed and this has not been asked by me and/or gauner.

When we will have an ETA we'll say it.

Please take in mind that the things that we're doing aren't simple tasks like cooking a ROM or porting a program to other resolutions: we're working with ARM assembly code that is different from the x86 one, and this needs to re-learn almost all the language for people like me that are familiar with x86-ASM but not with ARM-ASM.

What's the status of our work?

The status of our work is reported in the first post. However it's impossible to update in real time because when you're working on something, you have to "synchronize" your mind with your work, and you have to think only of what you're doing.

This is even MORE true when you're dealing with an SPL because if you make a mistake and flash it, you'll brick all.

What can I do to have a realtime status of this work?

Join the #xda-devs IRC channel on irc.freenode.net (don't ask HOW, use the SEARCH).

Now I'll update you on the status of the work by me and gauner1986:

We're close to boot SSPL, I've relocated the SPL and gauner is calculating the start address for getting it to boot.

Relocating is important because in the SPL there are hardcoded addresses.

We can change these addresses to relative ones, but this would take YEARS to complete the task and it's not so convenient to all of us.

Have a good time, stay tuned and enjoy our work!

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] OrionBG:
Thank you very much for the info! Keep up the good work and happy holydays ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
No, a forum in about reading and learning, you search. Things arrive when they arrive and the only people privy to times/dates are the devs who do this for virtually nothing. and they release when they release

Its not a matter of being sensitive, i think a lot of people here are getting irritated with this once fantastic forum getting flooded with pointless NOOB posts!

Everyone else seems to be sitting waiting patiently, but NOOBs are firing questions left right and center! Please do not post anything here unless you have managed to build HardSPL and got it to flash!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wazaaappp:
Mystic u got me boiling just stop posting useless information. Please ppl wait for an official announcement.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] hdbueller:
You all just need to take a major chill pill....LOL I cannot tell you how often I have seen this crap before with most,if not all devices here!It is NOT an overnight process to do these things! Also remember, we all have lives OUTSIDE of these forums!

IT WILL HAPPEN SOON ENOUGH AND WHEN IT DOES,IT WILL BE RIGHT!!!

P.S. Sorry for shouting,but I have been on the receiving end of this crap in the past,and it fries my taters.....LOL

Have a great holiday everyone............... Later
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wazaaappp:
If you saying to me. Please I invite you to read my post, otherwise let me know to explain to you, that was my first post in the thread, just to don't fail in the same again. I won't post here anymore, so please as I told you if you need any help PM me.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RRibeiro:
Check this out... (HardSPL HD2)

I just checked my twitter page and saw this:

http://twitter.com/SatScan

I hope it's today. ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tids2k:
wow this is awesome for users as well as developers. donatoons up coming :d
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wacky.banana:
@ gauner & kholk,

Could you guys enlighten us? What is the difference between what you are doing and what Cmonex/Olipro are up to? Are you running a parallel process to create an SPL or doing this just for the learning?

I am assuming that there is a certain amount of collaboration/sharing going on?

Also, at a summary level, what have been the key challenges you have had to overcome with, as I understand it, having some of the hard spl code in the radio stack?

No rush answering these questions, come back when you are ready. Alternatively if there is somewhere you can point me to to get the answers to my questions then please do so.

Thanks

WB
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] itje:
yet another break in this thread is needed

op, pm me if u need it reopened
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] waza123:
SSSPL done ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tomtom140:
Thred up again

:) this is nice that you are back on the job again...thaks for opening
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cmonex:
QUESTION:

what would you like?

I can release SSPL in current state (I've had it for 1-2 weeks in this state), which is basically the same features as bepe version (different binaries of course, but features same right now), it can flash anything that's not SPL or radio.

OR

I can take more time and work out a way to do SPL and radio flash as well.

tell me please :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tomtom140:
SPL

To give you a onest wish is that I prefer a BIG one..HSPL

Still, I leve at your discretion what is the best solution to go for.

thaks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] nightstar:
take the time to finish the SPL

Hi cmonex.

i prefer you take the time to finish the SPL

so we all could use other radios as for now we

already able to flash OS's with bepe SSPL

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] spajdr:
cmonex : i would rather wait and get complete solution :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Drakknar:
Hey Cmonex, first of all thanks for your continued effort. As this is a HSPL thread I think that as SSPL is already out, I'd prefer to have a full working HSPL no matter how much time it will take... Just my 2 cents :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] itje:
radio and spl would be a nice treat
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] broncogr:
I think that since we have bepe's SSPL working for OS it would be better if you could follow on with your work on HSPL.

Eventually we will need to flash Radio so we will need that developed.

Since newer devices will probably have the same protection, it will be for the community's best interest to develop this HSPL.

Thank you for your efforts

Andreas
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Pappagallo:
In the end I guess we're all looking for the HSPL, and as long as your SSPL is no different in functionality than Bepe's version, than my preference would be that you keep working on the other issues before releasing your version.

Or

You could release your current version as 0.1 and as more functionality is added, just upgrade the version number :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] RacerII:
Since the features are the same , doesnt it make more sense to take more time for spl and radio flash?

And since im not a windows user (except for winmo) , i would love to see hard spl so i can flash with sd ;) it saves me alot of time.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] rd2000:
If you ask me, take your time :)

We have Bebe's SSPL for now, and since there is no real difference between yours and that one, there is no need for you to release it.

Keep up your hard work CMX, and I have confidence that you will crack the SPL/ radio problem soon enough :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lancemate:
i donated and ive absolutely no problem waiting as long as it takes as im sure the majority will agree
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] markd66:
+1 HSPL & radio. Worth waiting for, without question.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] crazy cat:
I prefer to see HSPL.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] eddieul:
me too.. I have no problem wait as long as U need for HSPL..thx a lot...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] anja31:
No question for me

please make the real thing - sspl is a nice to have for now - to cook and test, but hardspl is much better for us cooks when their will be a secure way to go back to stock spl in case that something is broken or you have to send the device for repairing.

Just my thoughts

regards

Anja31
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] christonabike:
The release of bepe's SSPL should take the pressure off a little. At least now the angry mob can flash custom roms.. I'd love to see HSPL eventually but it shouldn't be rushed. Maybe take a break for a while? I think the decision should be yours alone and no one should question that decision.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] skr_xd:
As we have SSPL from Bepe already, no hurry now. We can patiently wait for HSPL. Take your own time;)

BTW, seeing the trend HTC is following in making the SPL crack harder, i don't think it is going to provide any good for them in future.

I prefer to buy the HTC devices for the convenience/freedom i have in flashing customized ROMs with HSPL. I think most of other HTC users are in same boat. After HD2, i would definitely hesitate with my future purchases of HTC devices.

Just my 2c.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] 4D3:
what exactly can we do with this?

personally i think you should take your time and complete!

hope you had a good xmas!

MG
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gauner1986:
My oscar goes to...

real HSPL :)

plain SSPL brings too much circumstances with it.. Can't even flash through a VM.. Real Windows needed. What a ****ty. :)

But of course nice work by bepe and cotulla, no question.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] DANEMAN:
just take your time ,it,s xmas remember hspl will be ready when you are finished.

we thank you for all your time and effort,donation in post lol .

9LU81124WH8239509 paypal

happy new year from scotland.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Bouloama:
Please take your time.. and enjoy the holidays.. and we will see some Hard-SPL comming soon :D

So Fully SPL and Radio flash ability would be great!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Fab985:
hard spl is better

as allways :o

sspl is useless for me :rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] cmonex:
thanks for your opinions :) will go & work on HSPL in a new thread soon
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alesscam:
Hi cmonex a sspl already exists ;)

but it is not this that I want and believe others user and chef…

to continue your great job…

I personally do not have haste…

thanks of all cmonex

I attend your hard spl :cool:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lpsi2000:
I say Hard SPL was the goal and we should continue with achieve that goal.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antoniomistretta:
Good work and hopefully soon! :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ComfySofa:
absolutely - with hspl youve got the lot...! ill wait for that....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wacky.banana:
So should this thread now be closed or are Gauner and Kholk working on something else that we need to keep abreast of?

Thanks Cmonex for the hard work and I am with everyone else on this; Hard SPL please.

Also I would not post anything on XDA until you are ready to release else you will get 10,000 posts asking you if its ready yet or people impugning your integrity just because they can't have it when they want it.

Not worth the hassle posting early, IMO. Just go quiet for a while. :)

WB
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] djet:
[delete it]
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lucid:
Hi Cmonex, please take the time you need, HSPL is so much easier, and we need to be able to flash radio's.

Thanks for your ongoing support to all of us. Third donation coming as soon as it's out.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] waza123:
HardSPL will be the best !
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] prank1:
Keep up the good work

I hope this is the right thread to ask this (as its to do with HSPL)...

When this HardSPL is released will there be any of this 'licensing' per user going on (Like the topaz and Rhodium), or will it be nice and simple like the Blackstone HardSPL (where we don't have to worry about it)?

Just a slight cause for concern for me as there are two people in my household (including me) who own a HD2 lol.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] fosseperme:
but for return to the original rom?? :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] crazy cat:
Now: Flash a any ROM you want by using SSPL. For getting original ROM use the goldcard.

In Future: Use HSPL for flashing any ROMs. For getting original ROM flash it like all other ROMs. No GC needed.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] tenzin:
Thanks a lot Cmonex for all your work

Of course, take your time for HSPL ( which I really prefer, and others too as it seems reading the posts above ;))

Happy Winter Holidays and New Year
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] DrBasem:
HSPL gives us the merit of flashing from the SD card which isn't the case with SSPL

Live Long the HSPL :D and Cmonex too :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jakehonson:
where can i find a whole process for upgrading a new HD2 to a WWE ROM with HSPL?

THX
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] wacky.banana:
HSPL not developed yet. Go to the top of this forum and look at Bepe's thread for SPL flashing.

Also RTFW (read the wiki) and anything else on flashing thoroughly so you understand the process and the risks.

WB
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] jonboyuk:
Oh I should have said, I updated using Win 7 x64 and it works fine :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Titek:
HSPL is the best way to flash, I do think, and as it was said before, flashing from SD CARD is also very good :)

And now that many cookers have shared their own roms, it is a nice step forward :)

(sorry if my english is not very good sometimes ^^)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lrbpereira:
One stupid question, i search for her but i didn´t found the answer... Does SSPL or HSPL remove the SIM LOCK? :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] psycho46:
No it don´t!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lrbpereira:
Amigo tuga! Então para tirar o sim lock só mandando vir o código da operadora? Pensei que o HSPL limpasse isso quando se colocava uma rom completa!

Hi my portuguese friend! So, to remove the sim lock I have to get a code to unbrand it? I had in mind that the HSPL plus a CU ROM would do the job...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] psycho46:
São duas coisas distintas, uma em nada tem haver com a outra!

It´s two different things, one has nothing to do with the other!

As always Portuguese do it better!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lrbpereira:
Então não me safo para retirar o SIM LOCK? So mesmo por código comprado na net? Nem aqueles X-SIM´s nem nenhum flash caseiro dá para remover a protecção?

So I can´t get ride off the sim lock, only buying a code on a internet site? Not even a x-sim or a diferent home-made flash will do the trick?

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] psycho46:
Well, in the meantime it´s possible that already a x-sim does the trick but in this high-end phones it´s always better the code cos after that the phone gets clean of the unlock and it´s done, the x-sim tricks all the time the network.

Besides isn´t that expensive to buy a code from the Internet, from the carrier it´s to dawn!

Sorry, no flash will do the trick...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] p-kirill:
Why ?? Flashing with SSPL is

- very safe

- does not destroy original SPL

- provide all we need - flashing custom system

I have never seen custom roms with radio. We always did flash original ROM with later radion before custom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Fab985:
sspl don't work for all

and to flash a radio, you allways flash an official rom? :eek:

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] antoniomistretta:
I quote! :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] clubbtraxx:
Why not team up with Bepe?

Cmonex,

Please continue with HSPL development, the impatient can use Bepe's SSPL for the moment.

Besides, it may be a good idea to team up with Bepe and share ideas?

I'm sure that will benefit both of you and there is no need to invent the wheel twice so to speak ;-)

Cheers,

CT
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] htc12345:
cmonex a big thanks for all the work so far! looking forward to HSPL, take your time.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] dirtytwo:
Hey Cmonex, first of all thanks for your continued effort. I think that I'd prefer to have a full working HSPL no matter how much time it will take.

Please make the real thing.:cool:

Please take your time and enjoy the holidays.

seeya dirtytwo
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] deaad:
I agree.

I'l wait for the real HSPL too.

Thanks in advance, happy hollidays and all the best for 2010.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] madindehead:
Agreed with this comment. Anyone who wants to flash for now, can use Bepe's SSPL. But I think a LOT of people would love to have a real HSPL.

Take your time over it, and make it right. Don't let anyone rush you. We are all adults. I'm sure we can wait!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] diigibio:
LOL.. Yeah OK, remember how we was just waiting for our devices from mobile.co.uk.... Adults, acting like kids. lol.. :) I'm happy to wait also.. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] madindehead:
Haha. Well, true. But still. That's what we are like with technology I guess.

The HSPL will be worth it. Take your time cmonex. HSPL will be a nice present for the New Year when you finish it :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alan_g:
hspl would be the perfect 2010 gift............
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Ca5c4d3:
Further info

I will try and put some time aside for this but I am not sure I will be able to so I might as well share some info. The way to do this is to use a Hex Editor on the dump file and put a jump around the check of the rom origin (signed/not signed). One way to find out where that jump must go will be to compare the address calls while debugging the flashing of a signed and an unsigned ROM. Did someone say the dump was encrypted?

Update:

Will try an obtain some more info on ARM9 from a friend who works at ARM. Also http://arm.com/products/DevTools/RVDSEditions.html
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
I think this can be taken off sticky now?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alesscam:
I think also ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Xeon:
Ok the HSPL is available. Thanks cmonex anyway..........
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] narkolitar:
I have been following this thread from the beginning, but I haven't figured out when HSPL showd up. So could you please tell me where to get it since i have a HD2 (leo) with win 6.1, and would really like to upgrade.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] barbapappa_86:
Look at the stickys in Leo ROM Development. Searching isnt to hard either ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] nerodante80:
Huh! Where's cmonex? bepe and cotulla beat her to sspl and even hspl. Is she making a better hspl than what's available now?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
SPL is always the same, mayb diffrent version or fully security unlocked...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Sjuust:
I would like to know this too...are there differences in HSPL's? (If cmonex comes with her own)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] alesscam:
xmoo it has already answered over yours post

I do not understand because this thread still is opened :confused:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] slyb5:
is ther enay way to flash that MFG SPL (posted in page 1) on HD2?

I am badly looking fro an MFG HSPL to control NAND from bootloader...if anybody could help...

I'm willing to contribute in any ways...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] gauner1986:
Sorry - just saw your PM. It should of course be possible, if you have SSPL or HSPL.. You should be able to flash it at least from SD card. Not sure though if just renaming to nbh is sufficient.. Don't know how these files are built up, but i guess there is enough reading on the XDA wiki.

Be warned though.. It's untested and i don't know if you can flash back to HSPL or stock SPL, if any problems occur.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] slyb5:
hey! thanks a lot for your reply!

My main problem was "how" to flash it :)

Actually I tried both ways 1) "RUU_Signed.nbh" with customRUU and 2) leoimg on an SD without success. I beleive the .bin file can't just be handeled as an nhb. That would be too nice...

So how about previous studies on that MFG SPL with IDA? Are there some MFG 'functionalities' that could be built into an HSPL?

Or anybody would be ineterested to pack that binary into an nbh flashable into the HD2 (I can do testing and report)

I have some time...I can help if anybody think having an MFG SPL is of interest...

(at least it is for me. Again my goal is to be able to control NAND from bootloader for some code injection & registry tweaking from the tricolor screen)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] SkywalkerPD:
Can't wait to flash my dutch device as well........Hopefully it soon becomes possible to flash custom ROMS.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
Tried to dump the SPL from the SPL itself with the rbmc command, but unsuccessful.

Now...

"ERROR: ITReadProcessMemory - Invalid access to memory location"

It means that even the RAM memory location where the SPL resides is protected.

I think the protection is resident in memory and NOT because of the CE Kernel.. but because of the SPL itself. HTC enforced the various protections...

It's sure that we can dump the SPL via JTAG.

However, I'm examinating the situation via the OS. The next step is KITL logging, but if the read protection is in the SPL, we're happily ****ed :P

I'm almost expert in cracking sort of kernel protections, but in x86/x64 systems and I don't know how to do in ARM systems, but I'm sure that I'll find somewhat for doing this job.

Hope that I'll have spare time for doing this ;)