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[HD2 General] pitchbend:
don't ask me how it happened, i'm just telling you that you can't rely on the HD2 drop test video on youtube... if someone knows a good place that will make my hd2 look like a new one again, please tell me!
[HD2 General] Chrlz:
Holy crap!! :(
[HD2 General] lude219:
Good luck on finding a new housing and screen. Might as well chalk this up as stupid/careless/accident and just get a new one.
[HD2 General] mitchec1:
pitchbend your not the only one mine was picked up by UPS yesterday afternoon and is off to HTC for repair.

When I first phoned the helpdesk hadn't even received the price list off the service centre. I had to phone them up the next day and then wait for Lee to call me back

Spares are like rocking horse crap at the moment and the only people that seem to have them are HTC's service centres.

I've been quoted £140 luckily the insurance will pay
[HD2 General] DracoDrake:
Haha... Sorry for laughing, im not laughing at you. try to fix it under guarentee and say it happend wwith you thumb and pressed too hard or something:P

(its probaly not working that way but you can try, ''no'' you alreddy have and ''yes'' you may get)

Or maybe u can say: ''i have no idea how this happend, but i saw supicious little creatures jumping on the screen when i left my phone on the table at night''

This maybe sounds hillarious but i have said this one time when my SE w810 had a broken lcd. They said they done it for free because the funny make up story:D
[HD2 General] galaxys:
Have you called HTC? Should be under warrenty? Not many other options...good luck.
[HD2 General] p3eps:
Somehow I don't think throwing your phone off the ground will be covered by warranty!

Either pay the repair costs, or fork out for a new one I'm afraid.

I suppose you could buy a new one - and keep that one for 3 months until spares are available... then eBay it!
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Do you people not have insurance on this phone?

Really, at £550 a pop, I would assume insurance would be a VERY sensible option.

And how the hell did you smash the bottom of that screen in?! Looks like someone stood on it.
[HD2 General] lude219:
Maybe it's just me, but I've never purchase any insurance for any of my phones. The last phone I've had was a $700 Diamond when it first came out. I check to make sure I have my phone on me at all time. NO. MATTER. WHAT. I've grown to the point where I'm very paranoid when I step out of my car and didn't feel the phone in my pocket. Everywhere I go, I make sure the phone is in a secure spot (ie, carrying case) if not, I will make sure it's in an enclosed pocket (front pants pocket). Don't ever put your phone on your shirt pocket or anywhere with an opening because when you bend over to pick up something...BAM!! Just simple reminders that many tend to overlook. It's just a higher level of awareness when you spend an upward of $700-$1000 for a phone.
[HD2 General] madbird:
hi,

first of all a big 'sorry you', i know how it feels when a brand new toy dies.... i think spareparts are not available at this early time after release. and the glas is maby a part of the display itself wich makes it expesive. so best will be to send to htc for repair.

and if you want to try this, than you should send thme a copy of the book 'the wee free man' (i attached a picture of the cover), to proove your words ;).

regards mad.
[HD2 General] terrytpot:
to say that must be heartbreaking has to be the understatement of the year... lots of dude's don't bother with phone insurance but have you thought about claiming of your house and contents? If you have it the excess fee will surely be less than the cost of outright replacement...

yours in deepest sympathy;)
[HD2 General] thebearhack:
I'd go online and purchase some insurance, wait a few weeks and...
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
Thats nasty mate, I feel for you! :(

Insurance is all well and good but as with any insrance company the do not like paying out, you have to chose your words very carefully when telling them how it happened!
[HD2 General] psychobunny:
Know how you feel.

Oh,

That picture sent a shiver down my spine :eek:. Looks like the dog's been at it!

Year before last I got my shiney TytnII Christmas Eve, and trod on it Christmas morning. Certainly wasn't feeling seasonal after that.

Regards
[HD2 General] lucid:
When you are 16 years old, and owning a $1000 Sharp IQ8300M with 128KB RAM, and repairing your bike's tyre with a bucket of water to find the hole in the tyre, and you drop your $1000 dollar gadget in the bucket while bending over,

you will never, ever , ever ever put your phone in some risky place again. Ever. Ever.

My god the trauma hasn't gone! Anyone seen such device on ebay,

I need me one to get over it ...I just realized that..
[HD2 General] mr_Ray:
That's disturbing.

You really need to put a NSFW or 18+ tag on something like that. :(
[HD2 General] HSKalay:
Whats a good place/company to get these insured? (in uk)
[HD2 General] bloody_typical:
Got mine insured through 'Supercover' - £9.99 per month covers my HD, and the wife and brother in law's iphones. Think (for the gadget mad) they do a 5 gadget cover for £14.99.

Feel your pain - my HD was replaced within 3 days of getting it thanks to an unzipped pocket.

Good luck with it! :)

EDIT - here's their link if it's any use

http://supercoverinsurance.com/gadget-insurance.php

EDIT - the wife has suitably informed me that Supercover now do the underwriting, and you need to go through a broker. Link attached

http://laptopinsurance.org.uk/gadget.htm
[HD2 General] Dogtag:
This site http://cnn.cn will get it, but it's still to early you need to be patient or rich. they are based in Hong kong I've bought a cover once and got it in three weeks (good quality).
[HD2 General] madbird:
hi,

while surfing the net im stumble upon this honkong guy , i dont know everything about them, and never bougth something from them. but they offer the frontglas with the touchscreen, so if someone is in need for it, this may help.

mad.
[HD2 General] ephestione:
this isn't going to help the OP in any way, but things like these (which I notice start popping up here and there in various forums) are the rock-solid demonstration that HTC has made a very LAME decision in NOT including any kind of lanyard loop attachment on the device. And seriously now, this toy looks quite "soft" to me anyway!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dayyanj:
Hi,

Unfortunanately there isn't yet a lot of information available out on the net regarding development using Microsoft.WindowsMobile.DirectX namespace.

I am hoping we can start a new forum section dedicated to just this? What do you guys think?

I've only been working with it for about a week now, and I am struggling to find helpful information, and am figuring out a lot of things through trial and error (note the SDK documentation is quite thin too!).

Is there anyone else on this site that is keen to collaborate and share DirectX experiences?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] heggenhugo:
i'm very interested in but i failed in basics (look here) and nobody here seems something to know about that.

one year before i gained few expieriences in direct3d. its similar but not the same to develop for mobile...

did you get running the examples of d3d from the ms mobile sdk?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dayyanj:
Yea, all the examples (not) in the SDK worked. I put "not" in parentheses because it took me a long time to locate them as the are no longer included as part of the .Net compact framework SDKs or the DirectX compact framework.

I am working on a simple app now that will determine the hardwares capabilities, allowing developers to quickly discover which devices their apps/games will run on. But I am still only just getting used to the environment also.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] heggenhugo:
could you send me please (or link) a working example? it would be enough to see how to create a d3d window. i want to develop an application that uses the g-sensor to navigate in a little 3d environment (for instance turn around a cube or sth like this).

ty
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dayyanj:
VB.Net D3DM Samples - DirectX Capabilities App

Here are all the MS provided examples. I have not tried them all, but most of them work (on my device). The emulators run them, but very very slowly.

I have also attached the ActiveX Capabilites Test.exe application I created which will show you exactly what DirectX features are available on a particular device.

It requires .Net 3.5 to be installed.

View attachment 250789 - Vb.Net samples

View attachment 250790 - DirectX Capability Test (install to device)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] dayyanj:
A good start

Anyone looking to get started on Mobile DirectX Development, should start with the fundimentals of the Managed DirectX Runtimes.

I recommend "Managed DirectX 9 Kick Start - Graphics and Game Programming" by Tom Miller. It's a good start into the world of Managed DirectX.
[G1 General] wetas:
is thr any link that can allow me to dl ebuddy or msn in my phones? cause i went to ebuddy and tried to dl but i cant find my phone model... thxz in advance
[G1 General] Ace42:
You have g1/dream? If so use the market to find the app.
[G1 General] grandomegabosses:
where are you trying to download it?? hhaha
[G1 General] wetas:
i went to ebuddy.com but i cant find my phone model...
[G1 General] grandomegabosses:
what ace said. you have a g1, right?

EDIT: you couldn't find your model?

http://www.ebuddy.com/android/index.php

it has all the instructions right there.
[G1 General] wetas:
is it free?
[G1 General] grandomegabosses:
go to the android market, search for "ebuddy" and install it. it is free.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
I noticed that the Keypad on my HD2 is a little bit loose, I can shake it by hand, it is not rock solid.

Also the screen at the top of the device is like 0.5 mm deeper than at the bottom i can feel the sharp right edge of the device when moving my finger to the right side outside the screen.

Is it only mine or all HD2 are similar? please share your experience.

Thanks.
[HD2 General] DrBasem:
I guess it's the design rather than a single defect

I have exactly the same thing with the keypad and the top notch thing

seems our sense of perfection is making all of us so sensetive to our supposed-to-be "Mighty" devices :D

or maybe after all, we dont trust HTC that much :D:D
[HD2 General] Martyn Day:
the keypad is lose?? does your screen jiggle when you move your phone, maybe its your eyes? o.0
[HD2 General] Xeon:
No the screen is OK but the plastic keypad at the bottom is just lose I can feel it when touching the buttons.

Oh sorry, haven't noticed you're not a HD2 yet
[HD2 General] bommel0815:
same on all HD2 I have tried.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
I wonder why noone mentioned that in any review. What a shame...
[HD2 General] sectorlord:
The keypad will move since it a single piece... for the unevenness of the glass screen vs the side mount from top to bottom..is just a manufacturing imperfection...some will be perfect and osme will have varying gaps like 0/5mm etc..

Better check it before purchasing if this bothers you...

This is what I check..since it bothers me knowing that some units there are perfect..
[HD2 General] Highl1:
I tested two HD2, first that I had for a few days was ok, mine that I bought after it has a loose keyboard, but it's just a slight problem, I don't even mention it during everyday use
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Thanks for the reply guys, you're great :)
[HD2 General] Prozac2502:
Loose keypad on my HD2 aswell. The screen is even tho.
[HD2 General] hnparedes:
Well, I think that "loose" is normal. Mine also has. My Pro's keyboard was also a bit "loose" but it's normal, because the keys need a little bit of space. Maybe it has too much space :P but I don't see it as a defect. Besides that, it feels very solid in and!
[HD2 General] Archer:
The keypad on mine can be moved very slightly, but not by moving the phone - only by using my finger.

My screen seems perfectly aligned to me, at both ends.
[HD2 General] kinnyfaifai:
Same here. My screen is fine.
[HD2 General] pamand:
Same here. /P
[HD2 General] spastik:
yup ... same here :-)
[HD2 General] sectorlord:
The Keyboard is normal...

BUT >>> the right side of the display has some imperfections..

I tried 3 HD2s already ...

THe top right side display glass is not totally flush with the side plastic.. it is 0.5mm deeper than the bottom..

The left side is flushed from top to bottom..I had a Touch Diamond like this..and it broke the glass after few months...
[HD2 General] Xeon:
EUREKA !!! I am not the only one thanks god ! I was about to ask for a replacement. Thank you for the confirmation.
[HD2 General] sectorlord:
I think most of them are like this...People just dont give a damn....
[HD2 General] sunking101:
Top-right, about 7mm down I have a small gap and light can be seen leaking through it, much like a large pixel.
[HD2 General] tsttse:
now that you mention it... my top right screen is slightly lower than top left screen... maybe 0.5mm? i dont know...
[HD2 General] techdave:
The screen fit seems fine on mine.

My end/off button sits slightly lower than the other buttons. Anyone has this issue as well?
[HD2 General] Free Man:
All buttons seem normal and do not shake or wiggle. The screen is fit as it should be. I am guessing it is perhaps a quality control issue.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Yeah but think about it... For a almost 1000$ handset, they should spend more time on that. It's the first HTC I have with similar issue. My HD was perfect.
[HD2 General] sectorlord:
I had this issue on the Diamond (uneven glass mount) and caused my lower side to be unresponsive after 3 months of use before breaking afetr 6 months..
[HD2 General] Xeon:
I'll try to disassemble the device and see if it can be aligned properly. My HD2 is not under warranty in my country anyway, got it from a shop during a business trip.
[HD2 General] sectorlord:
That's why I am checking almost all the stores units here before buying..
[HD2 General] Xeon:
You mean not all HD2 screen to frame alignment are similar ? That would be really weird.
[HD2 General] sectorlord:
as some of our bro here.. their display is flushed ok..

I also worried for this end/off button to be lower than others.. it might required more pressure to activate after a few months on you..
[HD2 General] sectorlord:
did you able to fix it ?
[HD2 General] Xeon:
I didn't try yet. I am still waiting for some hotfixes from htc ( voice call, SMS lag, Camera ). In case they dont manage to solve it, Im selling the device. I will fix the screen once issues get solved.
[HD2 General] sectorlord:
I checked new HD2 today..and some of them has near perfect glass flushed on the all sides..

The biggest difference could be only 0.1mm...you wont feel it if you fit a screen protector..

Maybe I will check 10 more ..then I will choose the nearest perfect one..hehehe

OR Maybe I JUST need to pull it ..to make it even..as shown in this disassembled pics :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=582890
[HD2 General] meegulthwarp:
I always thought touch screens were slightly depressed so a screen protector would sit flush. I had the same issue on both my HD2 and ipod touch and now they are nicely flush with a screen protector on them.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Interesting tip, thanks. :)
[HD2 General] erosennin:
My keys don't move and the screen is near perfect. as some one said must be a quality control issue.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
My 2nd HD2 also got the screen problem along with the loose keypad
[HD2 General] Mithrandir007:
Both my girlfriend's and my HD2 have a screen that seems to fit perfectly, but her HD2 has a loose keypad as well.. mine isn't loose at all, I can only move it about half a milimeter if I push the keys left or right from one of the sides, but the keys are very firm when pressing them.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
That is absolutely weird

I still can't understand the reason behind all that :confused:
[HD2 General] adell_:
Why? I think it's quite normal. Not all devices are the same.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Shouldn't they ?
[HD2 General] Fatherboard:
The keypad in mine is little loose, also - in addition, I can see a light coming from the lower right edge (while the keypad lits). :)
[HD2 General] Xeon:
What about the top right corner? do you see a notch or like if the screen is lower than the frame ?
[HD2 General] Fatherboard:
The top seems to be perfectly fine, it's the lower right corner in mine which seems to be misaligned (0.00005mm higher than other 3 edges). I don't really mind, though.
[HD2 General] grega_slo:
goddamit! goddamiiit!

Why in gods name did you have to bring this up??

Tommorow I was going to take my HD2 for repair!

The keypad in mine is little loose, also - in addition, I can see a light coming from the lower right edge (while the keypad lits).

Because of this!

I hate it. 500€ worth device goddamit!

I will use quick glue to fix it...
[HD2 General] Fatherboard:
Sorry... :(
[HD2 General] Xeon:
600€ here and I have a very loose keypad, a misaligned screen, and a crackling earpiece.. that's my 2nd device...
[HD2 General] grega_slo:
Heh...

I only have issues with lower right corner... If we could somehow pin it down, there will be NO light coming out of this lower right corner AND buttons would be more static...

We just have to find the solution on how to pin it down. Super glue?:)
[HD2 General] Xeon:
I am still waiting for " HD2 Disassembly guide " :eek:
[HD2 General] grega_slo:
Basically if I understand right, we could simply "pull" the screen out for 1-2 mm and then glue it (careful) and press it back in... This should solve annoying light coming from lower right corner...
[HD2 General] Ruudfood:
Wow, some people are fussy!

Do you inspect your $25k car and say "oh no, the left rear light is 3mm higher than the right!"?

The manufacturing process is never perfect and there are tolerances that all companies deem "acceptable".
[HD2 General] GodsGift:
Sorry but mine is fine and "perfect"

well not perfect but if thats what you deem a fault then I'm soooo lucky.

GG
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Wouldn't that cause future troubles? Like I read some posts in this thread were people experienced the same problem with their old devices and the screen ended up broken. You know, sometimes I even think that it may be the cause of the screen jitters..
[HD2 General] ageorgiou1984:
My first HD2 had loose buttons and a none functioning volume UP button. The one I've got now is fine.
[HD2 General] elburna:
Further Problems possible

Well, concerning the screen: Had the same issue with my old HD (screen not perfectly glued, corners a bit up) After a while there where small dust-particles entrying between screen and glass which i always had to face while looking at the screen. After a lot of discussion with arvato (our national HTC-Repair-Center) they finally fixed it but it was a long annoying process...

By the way: same thing with my HD2 at the moment, so i sent it in for repair. Am quite excited what excuses Arvato presents this time for not repairing it...
[HD2 General] tsttse:
exact same problems of loose buttons and uneven glass...
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Repair it or replace it? Or you telling me that they will have to disassemble the device ?
[HD2 General] Ruudfood:
Possibly but I look after my devices. I've still got a Nokia 8310 and it's still in as new condition and perfect working order. But it also has some manufacturing design flaws.
[HD2 General] Jmarley:
All the HD2's I've seen have loose buttons and the screen slightly higher on the bottom right....You can press it down "gently" but it will just come up a few hours later, The problem is the plastic housing are not fixed at the top and bottom of the phone.

I do have an issue though, If I press the phone hard key sometimes it calls the last number, a short sharp press seems to not have this problem....anyone else ?
[HD2 General] elburna:
They only replaced the screen.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
My screen is lower on the top right and fine elsewhere. Still not sure if it will cause me troubles but should I really wait for the disaster to happen? I'm thinking of returning it one more time. It's all about the screen with this device.
[HD2 General] Jmarley:
So You don't have this problem with it sometimes dialing when the phone key is pressed ?
[HD2 General] grega_slo:
Here are mine photos...
[HD2 General] Fatherboard:
Mine is a bit lower than yours, but still differs from other edges.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Actually I have lot of problems, can't figure them out with only 3 weeks of usage but you know, it doesn't end... God knows what's next...
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Ewww that backlight bleeding is disgusting :eek:
[HD2 General] Fatherboard:
Xeon, stop doing this to yourself and sell this unit as well. I intend to do the same with mine. I'm sick of this "beta-testing" feeling.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Actually I already payed to much and Ive ordered a noreve case that would cost 40 euros +23 euros ship. + VAT... too late mate, too late.

I'm just gonna use my corporate e-mail and send HTC a message full of blasphemy. Let's see if that works.
[HD2 General] elburna:
Yeah thats exactly what i am facing. **** about this is, that you cant even really use the function "turn-around-to-snooze" because otherwise it will always lie on the glassplate and will get scratchy (as my corner at the top looks the same)...
[HD2 General] myth1001:
My unit doesn't have any of those problems. Only certain batch of the phones have those production flaws i think.

By the way, i pre-ordered mine from Expansys 3days before the official release.
[HD2 General] nic85:
same as your
[HD2 General] grega_slo:
Mine was also bought in Expansys (France)
[HD2 General] Jmarley:
I think You will be lucky to find many with the screen perfect all the way around and I would not worry to much, it's not going to cause the screen to break or anything, Just bloody annoying !
[HD2 General] Jmarley:
Can all You Guy's please test the phone Call button, does it sometimes when You lightly press it, redial the last number ?
[HD2 General] grega_slo:
No, it does not happen.

However, I don`t have ANY button problems... It`s just annoying light at night or in dark places AND you have to use HW keys :)

I will maybe try to fix it myself...
[HD2 General] Jmarley:
I have sound's turned on for touch and buttons and the Phone key (with the phone locked) takes about 1/2 sec to register a click sound, so it's like some sort of software delay, Anyone else ?
[HD2 General] Xeon:
I think this will affect the device somehow, the screen specifically.
[HD2 General] terrytpot:
perfect screen alignement and what must be less than 0.25mm lateral and vertical play on the keyboard which will need at least that much to avoid friction with the edges of the screen where its cut out for the keyboard to poke through it,any tighter and prolonged use would promote wear and burrs upon the edges of the keyboard..
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Lucky you, where did you get your device from?
[HD2 General] sunking101:
I am on my second HD2. The first had perfect glass alignment and perfect buttons (loose but nice to press). My second HD2 has the glass perfectly aligned on the bottom two corners but around 1mm recessed at both uppermost corners - as such, you feel the 'ridge' of the side plastic when swiping a finger over the screen anywhere from halfway up the device. This is slightly annoying! I returned the first handset due to the call volume/crackling earpiece problem but my replacement has this anyway...along with the misaligned screen. Oh and my windows hard button has much less travel than the other hard keys. Still, I am not really complaining about these manufacturing tolerances, it is the initial call and SMS problems which annoy me. :mad:
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Does your 2nd device earpiece crackles as well :confused::confused:
[HD2 General] sunking101:
Of course :D
[HD2 General] Jmarley:
The miss aligned screen is common also, there should be a function to align it like You can with a normal monitor, Just cheap poor panels/build quality i'm afraid, any problems with Your phone button ?
[HD2 General] Xeon:
I'm afraid he meant " the screen is misaligned with the plastic frame " That is something I couldn't fix. Dealing with plastic and glass , one of the hardest things:)