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[Hero CDMA General] david_ag:
There is no point in "tricking" the device to think it's the wall charger because what you want is the phone to charge up, not to beleive it's charged up when it's not. The usb port will not output more than 500mA. The phone will only charge as fast as 500mA will get you, no matter what tricks we try to pull on them.
[Hero CDMA General] Rootwind:
Actually, most USB 2.0 ports can unofficially support up to 1000mA (which is indeed out of spec), with the only limitation from the device itself which when in spec will not draw more than 500mA. This is why no2chem's Fastcharge worked on WinMo phones, by increasing the maximum limit on the device.
[Hero CDMA General] david_ag:
Thanks for the clarification, It's good to learn something new every day :)
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
Thank you so much for this post, i couldnt remember no2chem's nick to save my life. I wonder how he feels about dev in android. :rolleyes:
[Hero CDMA General] kynetx:
I don't know where you're coming from, but the phone will indeed pull more current when it detects it's on a wall charger. I specifically remember seeing it in the manual.
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
Has anybody heard anything new on this matter, I really hate not being able to charge at 1A from a computer USB anymore. 500mA is pretty much useless, especially in constant usage, it pretty much just maintains the current %.
[Hero CDMA General] mountaindont:
from less than 10% to 100% in about 30 minutes when plugged into the wall...turn your phone off while charging!! itll charge so much faster!!
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
This was specifically about usb....
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
I seem to remember hearing you can tweak some usb wires (I guess remove the data pins) so the phone thinks it's on AC but I'd want to have connectivity as well as the swift charging. Otherwise I'd have to have two cords on me, though I wonder if the phone charges "AC speed" while off (since there's no mind to talk to the PC's OS)
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
yup, i remember that too, it was called fast charge.
[Hero CDMA General] danaff37:
I know this does't work, as I have a cable with no data pins (it's a cheapy charge cable only) and it's still slow on a pc to charge.
[Hero CDMA General] swears11:
Get a USB 3.0 port.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
ummm... you mean you would have to buy a whole new mobo with usb3.0 support.
[Hero CDMA General] gunnyman:
I have a belkin travel power surge protector with 3 outlets and 2 usb ports on it. The phone, when plugged into it, doesn't detect that it is plugged into AC power and just charges at USB speeds. Anybody know why? Will it only charge at AC speed if it detects the HTC supplied Ac adapter?
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
I have a cheapy cable too and that might be why it's still slow. I don't use the cable anymore because my TP used to charge at like 200mAh with it.

But the problem here is with the software not hardware lol, all someone has to do is change the value of "when connected to computer: Charge 1A" instead of "when connected to computer: Charge 0.5A" (simplified of course)

Because it was a stupid idea to ever limit the charge speed. lol

If only I knew how to program or to edit code, I'd so fix this for all of us >_<
[Hero CDMA General] HyoImowano:
I purchased the below USB hub, but rarely need the extra ports, the USB cable it comes with plugs into TWO USB ports though, one for data and power, and an extra just for power, my phone usually charges in less that three hours with this cable, while I'm using it/flashing/etc.

Ultra Compact 4-Port USB Hub
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
hmmm that's a tad steep, I was thinking something more on the lines of this:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030303&p_id=5620&seq=1&format=2

One of the plugs is just power and the other is power+data. So if you plug in just the power one, in theory your phone wouldn't know it's connected to the computer and would enable full speed charging. I'll order one and let you all know how it goes!
[Hero CDMA General] scirio:
I have an 1000mA USB wall adapter and I notice a HUUGE difference in charge times. I can charge my phone all day at work and the battery light might turn green by the time I leave. The wall adapter I use (1000ma) charges the puppy up like in < 3 hrs.

I also will only use a 1000mA USB charger in the car. For some reason that bad boy seems to go even faster...!

Also: http://www.maxim-ic.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/1815

here's my charger: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19242
[Hero CDMA General] unCoRrUpTeD:
A couple of weeks ago I was out looking at bluetooths and there was a guy up there looking for a charger. He had a HTC and the person up there said that the HTC phones require a higher current to charge than most phones. I actually have an inverter in my car and it has a usb port on it which outputs 1A+. I hook it up and in about an hour it goes from 25% to 100%.
[Hero CDMA General] DevinXtreme:
EDIT: Disregard my post...
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
I gotta start remembering my invertor!
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
Bump in case a hack has been made or if anyone has learned anything new
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
Either my hero's port or the cable is dying because when i connect to my pc i get a error that states "this device can perform faster". Im going to the sprint store tomorrow to get it looked at. But yeah connecting it to a wall outlet charges the phone much faster than from a usb port of a pc.
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
Is your computer pretty old (aka pre USB 2.0)??
[Hero CDMA General] markus_del_marko:
No, my pc is only a year old and fairly new parts. It's definitely a problem with the hero or the cable.
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
Try transferring a large file from or to the sd card. If the transfer rate is slower than 1.5 MB/s than you have a bad cable
[Hero CDMA General] wcgbmd:
Ultimately if you want faster transfer speeds you'll need a good USB port your connecting it to as well as a fast SD card. Both data transfer speed and charging speed will be affected by the amount of power supplied by the USB Port. If you need a faster charge you should use the port on the back of your computer, this will still be slower than using an wall outlet. If your really crazy and need every last second buy a USB Amplifier, they look like 2 usb plugs heading into one female port, this is double the power for the single port they usually cost $20 or more so just buy an extended battery.
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
No because the phone is an ass and refuses to draw the usb ports max speed. My old TouchPro had a tweak which told the phone to charge at the USB port's actual max instead of the relatively useless 500mA it would normally. Someone needs to do this for our hero's. No special cables were necessary, I just pressed one button in the one program on my Touch Pro once and then it charged like 90% of wall charger speed which on the computer
[Hero CDMA General] nize2beme:
back on topic

back on topic guys, anyone know of a way to have fastcharge like we had on the windows mobile phones? No2chem offered a huge benefit with this hack and I would love to figure out a way to have it on my android phone.
[Hero CDMA General] Jus10o:
I completely forgot where i was looking. But i was snooping around the files of toasts godmode kernel when i was compling one and found reference to USB plug in and what it does when you plug it into, computer, charger etc.. I was doing something, and had no idea what to change so i just kept going about my business.
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
I bet if anyone could do it it's toast.
[Hero CDMA General] drummingfool:
If the usb drivers arent installed or have become corrupted, some USB 2.0 ports can start behaving like 1.1 ports. Try running a Windows update, or click Start > Run, type devmgmt.msc and see if your usb ports have any notices or cautions on them.
[Hero CDMA General] SeanFL:
I have that same one and it's because the belkin doesn't output more than 500 ma. That is one of the slower chargers I have, and I've switched to the 1000 ma wall chargers from monoprice and they work much better. There's also a rosewill 4 port charger that will do 2 amps if one device is plugged in.

Sean
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
Thanks for all the info Sean, but how does one charge there Android phone faster using a usb single usb cable plugged into a computers USB port? IMO, thats the whole point of this thread. It was possible to dupe WinMo, theres got to be a way to do the same to Android.
[Hero CDMA General] oohoy:
i charges my hero with wall charger that came with blackberry phone and it charges alot faster.
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
There's got to be a way, I'd love to just carry around a usb cable instead of a full wall charger. I come in contact with enough computers in my day to charge from.

If I even knew about coding or anything I'd love to fix this for our community. I mean come on, our Hero has pretty much the same specs as the Touch pro did (disregarding screen/keyboard/OS/battery)
[Hero CDMA General] barry.bishop72:
if charge is so important, why not just by a back-up battery? They're on Ebay for $15-$20.

*buy
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
Yeah I just threw a bid on one. It's still gay there's no fix for the slow usb charging, even though I'd have multiple batteries, I still want to charge them faster
[Hero CDMA General] Negrito:
Agreed!

Sneaky, sneaky.
[Hero CDMA General] iviyth0s:
Bump! Anything develop yet??
[Hero CDMA General] nize2beme:
Bump
[Hero CDMA General] MrJustAGuy:
If the iPad can officially charge faster from a USB 3.0 port without any kind of complicated hacks, you'd think that an Android device could tell the USB port to do the same thing.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/gigabyte-asus-and-msi-deliver-driver-software-to-allow-ipad-cha/
[Hero CDMA General] kazprotos:
My new motherboard does this :(

http://gigabyte.com/MicroSite/185/on-off-charge.htm

How can I get this on my N1? :( SOOOOOOOOO slow charging from PC/XBOX
[Hero CDMA General] chorca:
It's not a fix, but the reason why they charge at different rates is due to ID resistors in the USB ports.

The main ones we're discussing are ones between the data lines on the USB bus. When they are not shorted, (spec lists <200 Ohms) The phone assumes it is plugged into a USB port and attempts to negotiate up to full port power (500mA per port. Per spec, a USB port will supply 100mA until the device requests more). When there is less then 200 Ohms resistance, the phone assumes they are shorted, and believes that it is plugged into an AC outlet, in which case it will draw as much current as it can, and limit itself internally.

People are asking for a way to disable this check, which may or may not be possible, due to the battery management IC being a separate part of the phone. It may be checked internally on the chip and it's not something that can be overridden, or perhaps the processor checks itself and then tells the power controller what to do. Not sure, and I assume it would depend on the phone hardware.
[Hero CDMA General] raniero1:
nobody has found an app to fast charge the phone by usb port?
[Hero CDMA General] jasonmaloney:
Your best bet is a USB Y-cable. Works great to charge on my laptop.
[Hero CDMA General] macp10181:
Cool so the y cable pulls power from two USB ports. Genius.

Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] assassin82492:
Can anyone help me get a bloat free tilt 2 stock rom. I cant seem to find one. I just really like the theme and the speed which touchflo runs. I also like how stable it is. If there is anyway to get this theme onto an energy rom that would be awesome but I havent found it. Please help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] mutantblack:
You are kidding me right? Just 2 post below of your post is the thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=585403
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] assassin82492:
O wow. Im sorry. My bad. im not so good with forums. This is the first one I have ever joined. Anyway thank you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SlimJ87D:
Agreed. I really don't think you even tried to find it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] assassin82492:
I did try but I guess if you dont want to believe it thats fine although I really dont care about your opinion
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vudu:
How did you try searching for it? If you say you tried searching for it, then let's just give you the benefit of the doubt. My question is do you even care about learning how to search for things?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Question answered in post #2.

Closed, no need to flame the OP, we were all new once.

Dave
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] custom374:
I recently cleaned my partitions on my sd card and lost all my notifications and I forgot where I got it from on here. It was the YOYO and Hoops text message notification saying "You Got A Text man" Does anyone know where to get it from or others like it. Thanks
[Networking] baz43:
Hi,

I will be visiting India in January and I was wondering which network supports a pay as you go data plan in Gujerat as I will need to for my WM device and Blackberry.

I would be greatful if somebody could tell me Pay as You Go prices which support data as I have heard not all carriers support data.

Kind regards,
[Networking] indresh88:
I think you should go for "Airtel" here in gujarat.....it has data plan like "mobile office".....which is really affordable....it costs around 400 rupees per month....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kingwild:
I hope someone can help me out here.

I have:

Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON H

HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)

CPLD-10

Radio-3.22.20.17

After unbricking it after flashing it with wrong 32A version, I managed to load this rom: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=565859

Phone is working now, but want to change to another ROM.

Bootloader is now: 2.56.494.7

Everything I try to change ROM or bootloader fails !

- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=548218

- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=548096

- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=548379

What am I doing wrong and what do I need to do to correct my problem ?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] 5[Strogino]:
ALL RUU Updates is ONLY for 32A devices

you gave phone big pressure
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kingwild:
I knew that after finding out, but now I need some help.

Willing to try any solution to change it back.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kingwild:
Any hints ? Tried several roms but could not flash anything...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] 5[Strogino]:
fastboot working?

- power off

- hold Back + Power

- then with connecting phone to the computer

check in command line:

fastboot devices

You must have SDK Tools installed already
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kingwild:
Yes fastboot is working.

fastboot devices shows device serial
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] kingwild:
Made some big progress. Managed to flash perfected SPL 2010. Now rooting and flashing a Hero ROM (for Magic).
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xologist:
I have a biggggggg problem, and it is that now a days everyone sends more text messages than make actuall calls.

So people keep sending me messages, and thinking im ignoring them.. i get people mad at me, and I also dont get important messages from my girlfriend, parties, promotors, etc.

sometimes they have to send me 2 or 3 messages so i can get the message.

Help, how do I fix this issue?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rymaples:
I'm having the same exact issue. The message appears in the notification bar but does not appear in the app, either the default messaging app or Handcent.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jad011:
I want to learn how to compile and change roms, and make roms from dumps.

Where do i begin thanks
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
source.android.com
[G1 Android Development] BinaryDroid:
I figured this should be in its own thread so those working on a solution can now focus on the software side of things.

These are the JTAG connection points I traced from the CPU to their test points. i'm almost 90% sure the Primary is still usable. Auxilary JTAG port is Very very hard to get too and i'd imagine even for the technicians that reprogram them at the repair center. I didnt have much luck getting a connection made due to mu lack of JTAG knowledge and incorrect type of JTAG circuit(working on another though). i'm posting up the complete testpoints I spent MANY MANY countless hours and sleepless nights tracing so someone who has done this before can get a recovery procedure made to fix all bricked HTC-dreams. The reason I am doing all of this is not specifically for the Dream but because in the field of work im in, and the type of work I do I could benefit from it both for my personal phones and at work. I did research over the years but could never quite understand how JTAG is used until now. I took my spare fully working beater G1 and unsoldered the CPU with an IR Rework Station(T-870A) at home with the intentions of placing the CPU back on when done. took ALOT longer than I hoped and because of the fact that i had to hold test probes on the contact pads tight so I could flip the board and trace their also, it killed a couple of the pads so thats when I decided to say screw it, still have all the spares for my main Dream, now I can REALLY find the rest of the pins....and a few extras that might be used in the future to add features.

********Technical Notes*******

Their are 4 Mode control pins listed in the pictures.

Mode 3 is under the SIM slot, accessing requires de-soldering 4 points holding the SIM carrier to the board.

Mode 0 is NOT a testpoint, but a solder point were a resistor could go to ground. it is VERY hard to solder too directly.

Watchdog pin can simply be grounded with a resistor in place or with a needle through the shielding which would be ground. its a single solder point.

Primary JTAG is next to the LCD connector.

When you see were the pins for AUX are located you will see why I think thats not were the focus should be...their scattered in odd places, also have to remove the sim slot to access the last one which took forever to find.

Trackball has a hidden test point for the return clock as well, otherwise you need to solder directly to the connector on the main board.

Note: Return Clock is missing in the Picture for the AUX_JTAG connector...it is located at the top right testpoint just above the trackball pad, otherwise you will need to solder directly to the connector on main board.

if you need any more just let me know, if anyone wants to add to this please feel free.

Images are NOT MINE, they are the property of whomever took them, I only traced and added the labels, if their is a problem with using them let me know!

IF anyone wants to donate a bricked G1 board for experimenting or donate in general please feel welcome! email@ irenep@binarytechzone.com
[G1 Android Development] CrazyEye:
Great job, I hope someone with the knowledge can jump on this because even if my phone isn't bricked (which its not) there's always a chance it could get bricked. This is a pretty good find in my opinion.

A clearer picture might be needed though if its possible.
[G1 Android Development] innerspace:
nice find!

I'll be watching this as it "develops".
[G1 Android Development] scholbert:
Hey BinaryDroid,

that's great stuff!!

Excellent finding, now we need some software ;)

Maybe someone should check out accessing the phone with QMAT!

BTW, here's a picture stolen from the Phonewreck team.

I just inserted the testpoints you found. Hope it's O.K.!

If not tell me and i will delete the picture immediately :rolleyes:

EDIT: Deleted attachment, because of copyright issues :p

Very nice work!

Cheers,

scholbert
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
If necessary, removing the sim slot and trackball is a small price to pay to bring one of these back from the dead.

But wow, I gotta say.... I wasnt expecting those primary points to be *SO EASY* to get at.
[G1 Android Development] BinaryDroid:
Yea they were easy to trace, also over this past weekend I did manage to find the mode control pins and Watchdog pin, NAND write protection enable pin..basicallly searching for anything that might be helpful. I got the wires all soldered to the board also and the phone does recognize theirs something connected to the port but the data its returning dont seem like its correct. with nothing plugged in I get "no cable connected", after plugging the cable in i'm getting "Phone did not enter debug mode, reset?" This was before I found the mode pins using only what is posted so far and on a perfectly working phone in blue light mode which I dont think matter because it does the same thing with the phone off so long as a battery is in, does not work at all with no battery. I just went out and purchased a new camera for clearer pictures so pointing out the remaining pins is easier. I believe we may see a solution!

BTW i'm using OCD commander, plan on purchasing QMAT with JTAG this week since it tailors to HTC phones, once everything is figured out i'm sure we can use whats available free with a little modding.

@Scholbert, I thought about using those picures myself but didnt want to cause any copyright issues, I am going to put up a better picture anyhow. once thats up can you please remove the image so no one complains?
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
OpenOCD, OpenOCD, OpenOCD.

Did I mention OpenOCD? :D

http://openocd.berlios.de/web/

Would be great...
[G1 Android Development] BinaryDroid:
Hehe yea I didnt try that one yet since my Ubuntu install was killed by the latest update so I had to install windows first, gonna install Ubuntu sometime this week and try the tools available their.
[G1 Android Development] goldenarmZ:
You're not the only one :mad: 9.10 is a car crash.
[G1 Android Development] tubaking182:
off topic: 9.10 wrecked my mouse on my laptop, my wifi, my screen doesn't function properly, and sound is messed up.

On-topic: great job on this, i'm glad we might have a way to fix the bricked phones soon, my phone works fine but there is always that chance, and i have been meaning to get off the stock SPL
[G1 Android Development] lbcoder:
And this is why I use Fedora....

I don't even remember the last time an update broke something. :D
[G1 Android Development] scholbert:
Hi!

Maybe you're right. That's why i asked.

I just removed the pic!

I'm getting a Dream in the next days, if you're not able to take these pics, i may help out!

Just tell me :D

Best regards,

scholbert
[G1 Android Development] scholbert:
Ooops double post....

EDIT: You said you got already all the necessary pins.

Anyway, maybe this may help to verify:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4150161&postcount=300

Some time ago r3nrut put a very interesting package for download at his webpage. You may ask him for a link to download DreamJTAGcode.rar.

Included are professional scripts to set up the Dream with a PCI JTAG controller card named JT3710 from JTAG Technologies.

Though no one would afford such a hardware, you may find many useful files :D

Cheers,

scholbert