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[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jnwhiteh:
Sure.. but _when_ did they promise it. Either way, this isn't a relevant discussion for this forum.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
just an idea, has anyone asked htc kindly whether they would give us the 2.6.29 kernel source, if they have it already done for the hero? they might still be working on the sense ui, but maybe they have done the kernel already. they can't say more than no, so why not try? they have to release it anyway when they release the update... or maybe just the relevant patches or whatever. maybe someone who is already known there or at least with a name in the hacking scene (read: not me ;) ) could kindly ask them, imho it is worth a shot.

what do you think?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nadeemhasnaat:
E2K are u kidding me with this ? Do you really believe HTC is gonna ditch us. U could not be more wrong, u could try but u'd fail...

Lets face it, we r being selfish here arent we ? i mean we dont know how to cook roms and we certainly arent capable of getting eclair for Hero so we manipulate developers ( which are Effing good but just a handful ) into doing all the hard work for us and we'll manioulate them in anyway we can i.e " "donations", "false input".... and You know whats the most sickening thing about it.... Given the talent of these DEvs here they might come up with a fully functional version of Eclair and we're gonna fill up threads Thanking em but when HTC rolls out the Eclair with Rosie IN THE COMING WEEKS ( December ) we're all gonna jump ship .... SO my question is why not utilise thier talents into enhancing current roms or doing other things .... thats how it worked on the HTC Dream forum and with all the encouragement comes more rookie Devs ... thats how the Dream thread is what it is now .... their were a couple of whinners there and good devs like Haykuro left so I just dont want that to happen to our devs...

Damn i got emotional .... ok now its time for some bashing ...

OLD PHONE ????? E2K are u using Motorola "startac" coz thats an old phone or that nokia banana phone used in the matrix ... HERO IS NOT AN OLD PHONE ...Yes HtC is gonna release new phones ( thats how it usually works ) then why would they still release updates and fixes for HTC Touch Diamond ( the 1st Generation ... released abt 2 years back ) and that fix is for the white light around the circular D-pad... HERO came out in July or August man.... so have some FAITH ( HTC IS NOT RUN BY SATAN )

Ok now saying this in a HERO Thread is just asking for trouble

"we have a very old android handset[/B], with not even half the capabilities of new ones like the droid"

I wonder what capabilities your talking about, coz the last time i checked ( which was two seconds ago ) apart from slighlty over clocked 550 MHZ CPU and the bigger screen there are no DIFFERENCES IN CAPABILITIES ....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] E2K:
You look to much into Mhz.

What is faster? A 2Ghz Pentium 4 or a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo, that is the difference we are looking at.

Run a few benchmark applications on the Hero,

from within these apps, you can compare to the Droid.

The droid is always faster, at least 2 times at the minimum; but easily 3 times, and even 4 times faster in a whole lot of tests.

The GPU is even faster, but the droid has to draw 2-3 times more pixels so it's not as apparent there.

The Hero IS old, and it will never be used fully.

The 7200A CPU has hardware 640*480 video encoding at 30 fps.

Instead, we don't even get stable 30 fps 320*240.

Do you think anyone will ever write drivers for that? Think HTC is gonna do it?

Nein.

Anyway, I got an offer to trade my Hero for a brand new G1, plus receive 100 Euros (150+ dollar i think), but I declined.

I believe the devs here will think of something. I put my faith in them.;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nadeemhasnaat:
Yes i know Droid has a cortex A8 processor which is faster but u know what brother .... I dont think my HERO is such an inferior product as u so elegantly put it.... I dont know what benchmarks are you talking about but DROID cant out do HERO by 4 times at anything... I assure you of that.

Yesterday i tried LOX's 2.0 for HERO which is AOSP version ( loads of respect Mr. Lox for the effort ) and i was amazed how smoothly my HERO performed. so although its an "OLD" phone ( by the way i still think you have the Nokia Banana flip matrix phone confused with HERO which is why you got those benchmark results :D some comic relief ) it is more than capable of running Eclair ... Heck G1 can run it ...

And trust me HTC knows that too and put this whole conversation to rest i'll quote something from Mr. Chou ( CEO HTC ) " ECLAIR is coming to HEro soon " so i guess we can move on now ....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] FunkAndSoda:
well i like the idea about collecting some bucks for the first one who gets this done. im not a developer so all i can offer is some money. if there is a fund founded (hehe) i'm in with 30 USD.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
and then define "gets this done". what exactly is the goal?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] FunkAndSoda:
see first post.

lox_dev wrote:

The fact is that nobody has been able to port another device's rom, even a cupcake rom. We always face the same main problems: no bluetooth, no trackball, no camera, no accelerometer and, most of the time, no GPS.

goal is to solve these problems. i think a fund could encourage more devs to work on this.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jnwhiteh:
We have devs working on it. See my thread. Anyone can download the AOSP and build it and start working towards an AOSP cupcake with working hardware.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
so your goal is a fully functional eclair rom, and that before htc does it? maybe that's me being pessimistic, but... that's not gonna happen bro.

what i wanted to say is: when you set up a fund, whom do you give it to? first one to have an eclair rom starting on a hero? won't help anyone. first fully functional rom? not gonna happen. and in between those two there are like endless possibilities...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jnwhiteh:
No, that is not what anyone if after. This entire thread is about getting a working cupcake rom with all of the hardware. Without that, we're going to be extremely hard pressed to make any customizations to the system. This is why you see only 1-2 custom roms, and the same custom kernel over and over again.

There are quite a number of people in this thread who aren't developers and are just talking without really understanding the problem, or the state of the community.

Just stop fighting, and contribute. Let's get the AOSP cupcake working with all hardware.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] kendong2:
well ok, if you think you can animate people to donate for a longterm project like that good luck.

i think you don't get it, i don't want to stop this project, i don't think it is a bad idea, hell i even think it is the right point to start (to make an AOSP cupcake and then try to port the knowledge to higher android versions). all i am trying to say is: there are like 20 people around that are seriously interested in a clean rom (clean meaning without sense), so you won't be able to sell this to the masses. no masses = no donations = barrel burst. IMHO.

since you consider this being non-dev talk and don't seem to have any interest in other points of view than your own i will end the discussion here, i just hope you got what i mean.

and frankly, i think there are other reasons why there are not more custom roms for the hero. but obviously that doesn't belong here either.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] jnwhiteh:
I am not advocating anyone donate money to anyone. On the contrary, I'm about making sure that more people are involved in the process so we have a larger community working together.

I don't know who you think you're arguing with. I'm not upset, I'm not arguing. I've said from the beginning that we shouldn't be talking about paying anyone because a.) it won't work and b.) we don't need it.

The reason there aren't custom roms for the hero are because we can't make them right now. That's just a pure fact.. they all end up being based on HTC's original ROM.. which limits how much actual customization someone can do. No backporting of features, no innovation.

I'm sure there are other reasons, but there's a pretty severe technical one that we're attempting to solve. For free. For the good of the community. I don't disagree with you on that point.

EDIT: Perhaps I should clarify one of my earlier posts. I'm trying to say that the reason this thread was started in the first place was to rally people together. I've done the same in my thread, but provided resources to get people involved. I've ignored the people that think throwing money at the problem will somehow solve it, along with most of the HTC ranting/pleading. We need to figure out how to get AOSP Cupcake working with all of the hardware. Then we'll see where we can go.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] opticalc:
I have a Rogers Magic on the AT&T network here in the US. Its a 32a android-1.5

On my old phone, the Samsung i-617 BJ-II running WM6, in google maps I could get my not-so-accurate-location from the cell tower. It wasnt aGPS, it was just a rough guesstimate of where I was at.

With this magic, is this functionality just not possible? It seems the only way to get a rough estimate of location is to use wifi or gps.

The odd thing is the igoogle web page is able to get my location though, it knows what city Im in, and its not using wifi/gps to do this, so I dont see why google maps isnt doing the same thing.

BTW, does the Magic support both types of GPS?
[G1 Android Development] zayg1:
Sorry if wrong section, but wasn't sure where I am suppose to post this but here it goes.

I was looking in linda file manager & I noticed that I could copy files from my phone memory & copy apps like Camera and Browser & was wondering if I copied the .apk to my sd card & edited & signed the file, then replaced the .apk using linda file manager. Would it work??? and if so I have found the framework-res.apk & was wondering if you could mod that, sign it and replace it??? any thoughts???
[G1 Android Development] JAguirre1231:
See those question marks? Perfect indicator for the Q&A section, but anyways to answer your question- No. You would need read/write access which is not possible without root, AFAIK.
[General Topics] rsloader:
Hey everyone,

I was looking through the Office 2010 Mobile website and noticed this screen shot. It appears to be a possible shot from Windows Mobile 7. The battery and signal status are at the bottom, as well as no start menu at the top.

What does everybody think?
[General Topics] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
Odds are that it's a pretty old screenshot. Windows Mobile 6.5.1, which will become WM 7, incorporates many of the same ideas, but those screenshots have been floating around for years so there's certainly been some change since then. But thanks for posting

EDIT: Apparently, you can download Office 2010 Mobile from the marketplace as of today! It expires in April.
[General Topics] andrew-in-woking:
Link?

Hi rsloader

Please post a link to the page you found with the screenshot in question.

Thanks

andrew-in-woking
[General Topics] rsloader:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/2010/en/mobile/default.aspx

That's where the screen shot appeared, from what I can see though they have removed all of the images.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C_walk:
my bluetooth doesnt seem to be working at all. it acts like it going to turn on and then does nuthing

adb logcat:

D/BluetoothDeviceService( 144): Bluetooth state 0 -> 1

I/bluedroid( 144): Starting hciattach daemon

E/bluedroid( 144): bt_enable: Timeout waiting for HCI device to come up

D/BluetoothDeviceService( 144): Bluetooth state 1 -> 0

thats what logcat says when i attempt to turn it on. please help me if you can or tell me where i can get help
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goldenarmZ:
Which rom are you using?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
you wouldnt happen to be using a hero rom right? :p
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goldenarmZ:
Thats exactly where I was heading... :rolleyes:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
most common issue but then again it could be eclair/blur/pulse or flash procedure wasnt followed.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C_walk:
no im not on a hero rom im on cm 4.25. the thing is i reflashed the rom several times following the instructions to a t. I even downgraded to rc 29 with the nbh file and it didnt work in rc29 either.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
woah buddy thats wrong follow this pal

Flash Android 1.6 & CyanogenMod 4.2.5/4.1.9999

You will now install the actual OS of the phone. First you will install the legal Google apps, and then you will install CyanogenMod on top of those apps.

1. Turn your phone off.

2. Hold the Home button while booting to get to Recovery mode.

3. If you wish to have an option to return to your factory settings, select nandroid backup now. If not, continue.

4. Press Alt-W (or select "wipe data/factory reset")Press home to confirm

5. Press Alt-A (or select "apply any zip from sd")

* Dream (G1): signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-14721.zip

* Magic32A / Magic32B (MyTouch): See This Page

6. Press home to confirm and let installation complete

7. STOP - DO NOT REBOOT YOUR PHONE

8. Once again, press Alt-A (or select "apply any zip from sd")

* Dream (G1): update-cm-4.2.5-signed.zip

* Magic32A / Magic32B (MyTouch): See This Page

9. Press home to confirm and let installation complete

10. When this is complete, reboot your phone by pressing Home & Back.

11. Wait. Your phone will say writing radio image and then reboot. This will take a couple of minutes. Be patient!

12. If the phone enters Recovery mode after rebooting, press Home & Back again to reboot it once more. You should see the blue CyanogenMod Android logo this time.

directly from here

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.p..._Android_1.6_.26_CyanogenMod_4.2.5.2F4.1.9999

If i knew you were so eager for a brick you should hve flashed a old radio
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C_walk:
Believe me i know all about a brick im on my second g1 now bricked the first. i have done the steps you provided many times with the same result. i even deleted the partitions and started fresh. but it still does the same thing. but ill do it again and see if i get lucky
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
what............

@OP

If it wasnt working on RC29, its probably a hardware issue. If you got a new phone, it was probably refurbished improperly
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C_walk:
Well damn!!!:o I tried a old school method of fixing things. you know the one right? if it dont work just bang it a little. well thats just what i did and the damn bluetooth just turned on like it had always worked.

well thanks guys those of you who tried to help i appreciate it.:D:D:D:D:D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sonikamd:
yeah.. umm... if it just turned on by banging it odds are it's going to just turn back off by breathing on it wrong, at least that's been my experience. Until the banging on it part leads to a bruised hand and it begins to turn off when a butterfly flaps it's wings in china.

I'd say get you a new phone if it's still under warrenty. Shouldn't be hard to go back to stock and return the thing.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sugar0:
Sorry for bumping an old thread but i have this same issue. How can i be 100% is an hardware fault ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] giant56993:
im having eror codes after downloading rom from here, "cant find file"... i tried using diff roms like moonspell etc. but no luck . i use win ace to open these rar. files .. is this a common prob, or am i dong something wrong.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] msh441:
I have been searching and searching to no avail.

There has got to be some way to remap the "Launch Browser" button on the Manila "Browser" tab to launch the browser program of your choice?

I know I can select Skyfire as my default browser and it will launch with other programs... but I would like that same browser to launch when I push the big button on the Manila tab.

Seriously... there has got to be a way... anyone?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] msh441:
I found where someone else posted this in the HTC Diamond forums in responce to this same question about a year ago. I haven’t had the opportunity to try to confirm this as a work around:

All you need to do is to modify a file named “InternetPortal-en-US.xml” which is located in \Application Data\Manila. Use the freeware application Total Commander to navigate to this file and once you locate it press the pen/paper icon on the bottom of the page and that will open the file on the screen so you can edit it.

Once the file is open in Total Commander just add one of the following lines after the line <InternetPortal> which is towards the top:

Opera is:

<BrowserExe>\Windows\OperaL.exe</BrowserExe>\mobile\OperaL.exe</BrowserExe>

Internet Explorer is:

<BrowserExe>\Windows\iexplore.exe</BrowserExe>

SkyFire is:

<BrowserExe>\Program Files\Skyfireskyfire.exe</BrowserExe>

Iris is:

<BrowserExe>\program files\iris browser\irisbrowser.exe</BrowserExe>

I installed Opera Mobile 9.5 beta to my storage card, so my new path is:

<BrowserExe>\storage card\program files\opera

*Note if you can't save your changes - make sure that the file isn't set on "read only" (click the hand holding the paper icon and uncheck the "read only" box. You may have to click twice to remove the setting)

As I would be looking at going to Skyfire, I’m guessing my path would look something like this: <BrowserExe>\Storage Card\Program Files\Skyfireskyfire.exe</BrowserExe>

Again, I haven’t tested this yet (I'm at work), but looking at the information posted in the .xml, it does appear to control/direct what happens when that Launch Browser button is pushed. Whether or not other files also have an effect, and what these changes would effect, are yet unconfirmed (as I saw no replies after that post).

There are however other commands in that .xml file that I'm not sure how they effect things and I would love a second opinion.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jdmsleepr:
you can go into the registry and navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:DEFBROWSER and change the path in line number 1 to lead to whatever browser that you want to use and then change the name in line number 0...hope this helps!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] msh441:
I know how to change the "default browser" that other programs (mail, Twitter etc) launch via hyperlink. That's easy.

Setting another browser as the default browser however DOES NOT CHANGE Opera from launching from the "Launch Browser" button on the Browser tab in Manila. I want this button and tab to launch a different browser as well.

Still haven't sat down and tried the method I posted above... but I'll report back if I can get it to work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ThreeTima:
I've found this in a few places too... unfortunatly... nither the directory nor the file exist in this version. I even had it searching hidden & system files to no avail. Am looking for alternatives.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cameraddict:
Check out this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=548770

Also, here is item 4 from that thread. It appears you can have what ever browser you want to launch from the "Globe". But it does not effect the bookmarks you have set in the Manilla browser tab. I need it to launch these as well in my selected browser. BTW I have done the tweaks here, and can confirm they do work. I have 6 of my own bookmarks on the browser tab. And I got rid of the globe, didn't need it.

But I am still using Opera 9.5. I really want to be able to make this work with the book marks cause once Fenec is released I will be using that instead.

4) Remove the line <BrowserExe>\Windows\iexplore.exe</BrowserExe>

This will now launch the lower left Bookmarks and lower right browser in Opera. (this is only possible, if you have already edit the registry in the previous tutorial)

Replacing the tag <BrowserExe>\Window\iexplore.exe</BrowserExe> with <BrowserExe>\Windows\Opera9.exe</BrowserExe> only launches the "Earth" tab in Opera but the tabs will not be launched at all, not even in IE. Don't know why this happens. You can even edit the Banner tag so that it doesn't go to the web2go website by modifying the NavigateUrl to "" or whatever you want
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ThreeTima:
Unfortunately, as I had said in my other post, neither the file referenced nor the path are on my device. It has got to be buried elsewhere. I just need to know where.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cameraddict:
threetima:

You don't mention what device, exactly you have (carrier variant). Or which ROm you have (stock or some cooked version like 6.5)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] msh441:
Are you referring to the "IternetPortal-en-US.xml” file?

I'm looking at it right now on my Verizon CDMA TP2.

As for the other tweak... glad to hear Im on the right track. Cant wait till Im home and can do some file editing on the laptop. I don't use the bookmarks on the Launch Browser page very often, so I feel that I'm very close to having a solution for this issue. Now I just need to arrange the free time to give it a shot.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Natty_lite:
In case you've experiencing the frustration of your inquiries being met with "search for blah blah blah" here is the direct link to avoid frustration.

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.co...U_Hero_C_Sprint_1.29.651.1_signed_release.exe
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jonnythan:
If anyone can help me get this installed I'd appreciate it. It times out at the waiting for booatloader screen. I have the recovery ROM installed.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dagnasty:
Try this:

Pull your battery

Put it back in

Hold down the Volume down arrow and press power

Press Volume Up, screen should say FASTBOOT USB in red

Start your RUU
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jonnythan:
If I'm in Fastboot USB Mode when I run the RUU, it fails at Verifying. If I boot into Fastboot while it's waiting to boot into recovery, it still times out.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dagnasty:
Hmm, do you have the correct driver installed? Check your device manager under Android devices and see if the ADB driver is installed. If it is, install the driver from HTC Sync. Its called My HTC when it is installed
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jonnythan:
Yup, I definitely have the driver installed. I can use ADB just fine foe shell and push and so forth.

It connects initially to verify the info on the phone, but the RUU process reboots the phone and seems to expect it to boot into a certain bootloader. But it doesn't. I imagine the recovery ROM I flashed doesn't work with the RUU.

Does anyone have the original recovery ROM?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] gilroykilroy:
Had the same situation. I was able to get it to work by messing with the volume keys right after the reboot (pressed up and down a couple times.)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ajones7279:
Gah, Windows. =/

Gonna see if I can do it in Parallels.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fullthrottleenergy:
Having the same problem. It restarts the phone waiting for bootloader and then errors out.

Not sure what's going on. 100% positive I've got the adb driver. I've got HTC Sync working.

Using Win 7 64bit.

So it errors out and says a connection could not be made error 170.

I then disconnect the usb cable and the screen shows RUU but of course it's already disconnected.

No idea what to do.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dagnasty:
Not sure why it is not working for you guys. My RUU would not update using the adb driver. I put it into fastboot usb mode. My pc then detected the phone. I went into device manager and checked under android devices. Make sure it says something like 'My HTC' and not 'HTC Dream' or something like that.