yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Turns out that the audio manager isn't the problem. Im uploading r8 with dshow installed instead of the audio manager and ill put up a working link for the manager on the front post. Just install the audio manager seperately.

Video4Eva: Look back a few posts. I think I have created one without M2D already, but to be honest, you'll do better downloading 3.5.5 and just disabling touchflo. Look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=591882&page=59/#582

Post Script: Just to keep you guys updated, I am working on the latest build, 23529, for COM5. People say that this is the best COM out there. I'd disagree, but I will put it up for the masses.

When it is done I will post it on the front post underneath my COM8 - Build 28223 r8.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dagamer01:
Hey Tribul,

Just flashed to 28223 R8 and so far it seems pretty promising. Here is the list of few things i found to be a problem/disappointment/annoyance with this build.

1) The task manager shortcut in the start menu leads to internet explorer and it doesnt work once there.

2) There is no way of turning of M2D follow and get to titanium. (i personally prefer titanium over M2D since the wing is very limited on onboard memory and M2D is very demanding of that)

3) the HTC photo album that you built into the M2D doesnt read MPEG4 Video files nor does it read the other two formats the wings camera takes videos in. (videos do not show up in the HTC Album at the moment)

4) The loading of TouchFlo after getting out of hibernation or closing a program is annoying as TouchFlo takes a bit of time to fully load.

5) The Map Search on the TouchFlo is inoperable. Doesnt do anything at all when i type in a search and click the magnifying glass button. (i do not have data so i only tried this on wifi.)

6) TouchFlo ate a lot of my memory after only 30 mins. I wasnt running any programs and my memory was at about 7k only.

Btw i tried all these things after installing all the cabs that u put on the list. The ones you said are needed to run M2D smoothly.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ee99161:
Hi Tribu.

I agree with dagamer01. I flashed this new R8 around 3 hours ago, and i've noticed the task manager shortcut in the main menu that leads to internet explorer.

The point 4 in his review... It happens the same to me, it takes to damn long to load.

The map search doesn't work, at least not for me.

And the memory thing, it is true. dagamer01 and myself (at least we have tried this new rom) seem to get the same kind of errors and that thing of slow TouchFlo load...

Thank you for all the hard work man, and keep up.

Pedro
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
I will download the ROM I have up and install the .cab files I have on the front post and let you guys know what I come up with.

As for speed - we have the wrong devices for speed - my objective isn't really speed however. It's more practicality..

I'll address your concerns in chronological order:

1.) The task manager is also in the Settings menu as well - You can delete the one in the Start menu. Go to File Explorer\My Device\Windows\Start Menu\Programs and then just hold down on the TaskManager shortcut or you can change it's extension with total commander to .ink

2.) I actually don't have titanium on this ROM - The link to the Titanium version is

HERE

if that is the version you want

3.) I wasn't aware that the HTC album should be able to recognize the mp4 videos o.O That you may have to find an external app for.

4.) Unfortunately I don't have anything to do with how TouchFLO loads.. ^>^

5.) I downloaded the r8 rom from the front post and then installed the google maps .cab file I have listed. At first I tried typing my address in and, like you said, it didn't work. Then I soft reset the device and it worked ^>^ But I also have my Google Maps installed on my device.

6.) We are doing the best we can with what we've got. If you're looking for a fast operating software then you have the wrong device. It's not whose OS you have on your device - but which device you have..

If you want fast you need a phone that has a larger bank of memory for programs, not so much storage ram. Then you can change the page-pool for that device to a higher level. You see my TribU2U ROMs are all using 3mb page-pool; it increases the program memory by 5mb. But the downside is it decreases the actual usage speed.

So like I said, if you're looking for speed, you're gonna need to use a different phone, because the Wing/Herald is a very limited in resources.

Especially if you're looking to use TouchFLO - The Wing/Herald devices were not meant for it - They were not even meant for WM6.5. So a WM6.1 ROM would be better for the device.

If you scroll down to the third post in my TribU2U thread you will see that I have made my ROM in all the COMs out there including WM6.1. And they have TouchFLO.

Remember one thing, when you are running more than one process in a Wing/Herald to disable TouchFLO in Settings/HOME >> Items screen. This will give you more memory and speed to work with.

Cheers,

Trib
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dagamer01:
I'd like to thank you for the quick reply.

I didnt know you dont have roms with titanium because i was using one of you 3.4.5 releases that was titanium. Thats why i thought u could release a rom for 3.5.5 with titanium as well instead of M2D Touchflo.

I installed my google maps on storage. it seems practical to install there due to the limited on device storage. Is there a way to make it so the touchflo directs the search through the GM installed on Storage card?

I just feel its not practical to run TouchFlo on Wing/Herald because of the limited memory. I had less memory issues with your 3.4.5 titanium lite version. But it had more other bugs. Which is why i moved up to your newer version since it has some of the bug fixes i was really looking for xD.

I like the practicality of the Titanium/TouchFlo but I believe that practicality cannot be achieved without at least average speed. It is because of that reason i would have to say that Titanium if a better choice for the wing/herald.

I love the fact that you guys work so hard for this community and i must commend your efforts. I just feel i can play the part of the beta tester to help you make your work better xD.

I hope my input was help to you in any way in making your roms better.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Hm. I think I have an idea :D

I would like to make ROMs per request.

Do you guys like this idea?

If so, please post back everything - in specifics - what you would like on your ROM. What apps, build version & Page pool you guys would like.

I'll give you an example:

'I need a ROM that has the titanium menu only - non TouchFLO.

Need GoogleMaps,

HTC Album with Dshow,

BlueTooth with A2DP,

Internet Sharing,

New HTC Task Manager,

Transcriber,

Oxios Close Apps,

MMS,

SMS,

Contact Support,

Email Setup Wizard,

Network Setup Wizard,

Kevtris,

FingerKeyBoard &

NetCF 3.5'

I really think this is a good way to please people. Also, You have a choice of 3mb of page pool (which will give you 5 extra MB of program memory - but less clock speed) to 8mb page pool which will make the device faster but have less storage...

I also can do both Titanium and TouchFLo, but remember, that will only give you the 14mb of program memory.

MOST IMPORTANTLY - Tell me if you need it RUU friendly or if you can flash by SD card.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dagamer01:
Sounds good i guess. Here goes hope i dont forget anything.

I need a ROM that has the follow:

titanium menu only (landscape as well) - non TouchFLO.

HTC Album with Dshow,

BlueTooth with A2DP,

WiFi

Internet Sharing,

New HTC Task Manager,

Transcriber,

Oxios Close Apps,

MMS,

SMS,

Contact Support,

Email Setup Wizard,

Network Setup Wizard,

Solitaire, Bubble Breaker (games)

FingerKeyBoard

NetCF 3.5'

Microsoft Office with Chome plugin.

OpnMarket (marketplace for windows mobile from Freepocketpc.net)

Ability to close programs by Pressing the "X" button.

TrottleLock (android-like lock screen)

Total Commander

8 Key Comm Manager (the one thats in your r8 28223 build is good for me)

6mb Page Pool

Youtube app

Alarm

ActiveSync

File Explorer

Notes

Camera

Calculator (something better than the one that comes with standard windows mobile - i'll like it up to you)

Skyfire (my browser of choice xD - you can leave internet explorer as well just incase)

Calender

Windows media player and TCPMP with codec

I cant think of anything else that i may want or need at the moment. Also i'd like to get it on the latest build that is available and thats most stable. Not sure if its 28223 or 23529. Also i have no idea whats the best com to have it on. I would like to have a good balance on functionality/practicality and speed.

I am not sure if i forgot anything. If you think of anything that may be useful or important to consider for my need please let me know and i'll tell you if i'd want it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Okay. I'm building it now. I will be testing for a while with it first to make sure all apps are working correctly.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dagamer01:
Sounds good. I just hope i havent forgotten anything that needs to be in the build. let me know how it goes.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ee99161:
Hi again Tribul.

I found another thing... When using the Advanced Configuration we can't change the configurations of Touch Flo. It says that can't find the congiration file for Touch Flo.

Can this be fixed, or what can i do to try to fix it? The are things in the Touch Flo, the bar that shows up at the bottom that i need to change.

Thank you man for all that you are doing to help people like me, that has an Herald and can't aford to buy another HTC :).

Pedro Reis
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
This isn't the real TouchFLO so I don't think the advanced config utility works.

Also Pedro, not sure what you meant by:

["The are things in the Touch Flo, the bar that shows up at the bottom that i need to change."]

Maybe this is something I can change for you; what is it that you want changed about it?

And Gamer: That version I just made needed two tweaks; I am cooking the new one right now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ee99161:
In the screen that has the clock, main one, it has a bar on bottom. The first item is Home, the second one is contacts, messages, mail, etc.

I mean this bar, the shortcuts...

Thank you again Tribul.

Pedro Reis
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dagamer01:
Thnx Trib. Cant wait to use the build. btw which version of the build are you using?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
I am using build 28223.

What would you like changed about the bar, Pedro?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] baronmxc:
Hey man well if you are doing it this way well maybe you can do this for me.

I would like the newest 6.5 ROM you have with TouchFlo 2.0 (I think that is the TouchFlo version you have) without Titanium. Also please make it RUU flashable as I do not have a low capacity MicroSD card, just a 4GB one. I also would like the Clock and Background as the attached photo below shows

I basically just want a clean ROM with only the following Programs installed

(These are like BaseApps anyway)

*ActiveSync

*AdobeReader

*Bluetooth Explorer

*Calculator

*Calendar

*Camera

*Internet Explorer (the new version that just has the search field on the home screen without the Favorites and History Drop Boxes....clicking on those always brought you to the file explorer anyway.)

*File Explorer

*HTC Streaming Media

*Internet Sharing

*Messeging

*MIDlet Manager (with Intent...not a necesity but good to have.)

*Notes

*Office Mobile

*SIM Manager

*Windows Media

WE KNOW THAT THE BELOW LISTING HAS A BIT OF A DIFFERENT LAYOUT IN 6.5 BUT I AM SURE THAT YOU AND EVERYONE GETS THE IDEA

Personal Settings (Most are there by default but incase some are left out)

*Buttons

*Input

*Keyboard Sliding Sound

*Lock

*Menus

*Owner Info

*Phone

*Sounds & Notifications

*Today

*Voice Speed Dial

System ((Most are there by default but incase some are left out)

*About

*Backlight

*Certificates

*Clear Storage

*Clock & Alarms

*Device Info

*External GPS

*Key Lock

*Memory

*Microphone AGC

*Power

*Regional Settings

*Remove Programs

*Screen

*Task Manager 2.0

Connections (Most are there by default but incase some are left out)

*Beam

*Bluetooth

*Comm Manager (the one that goes with touch flo will be good but if there are problems with it then just use the default one.)

*Connections

*CSD Line Type

*GPRS Setting

*USB to PC

*WiFi

*Wireless LAN

Thank you for taking your time to do this and if its too much just let me know.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dagamer01:
cool. Just curious. is 28223 better than 23529? i mean whats the difference.

also i dont know if you've already done the Personal, Connections and System menus in the settings. I'd like to get them as baronmxc has asked them to be for the build your making for me as well if its not too late. Also for the pagepool. I was under the impression that pagepools can only be changed with increments of 3 mb. so like 3 mb, 6 mb, 9 mb, etc. if that is true then the original 6 mb i had asked for is fine. If it can be changed to anything then i think 4 or 5 mb would be better. I'll leave it up to you to make the judgement call xD. You already know what im looking for in terms of practicality and speed.

I hope i am not causing you too much trouble. Thank again buddy.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
P.s. I'll be back tonight after the Super Bowl. ^>^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dagamer01:
Just tried flashing and its not working for me either. I tried both methods of flashing (flash center and MicroSD card as well)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ee99161:
The mail icon, the Internet, Album Searcher, Music, and Map Search. I would like to remove them from the bar. And how do i add the Ndrive icon there, for example?

One other question, how do i change the icon position inside the windows menu? The one that has the lock icon. Is there any way to do that?

Pedro Reis
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] numaverick:
copy of baronmxc

*ActiveSync

*Bluetooth Explorer

*Calculator

*Calendar

*Camera

*Internet Explorer

*File Explorer

*Messaging

*Office Mobile - one note

*SIM Manager

*Windows Media

Personal Settings

*Buttons

*Lock

*Menus

*Owner Info

*Phone

*Sounds & Notifications

*Today

System

*About

*Backlight

*Certificates

*Clear Storage

*Clock & Alarms

*Device Info

*Key Lock

*Memory

:)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Here ya go Gamer: http://www.mediafire.com/file/rwrmw1qtcyq/GamerR6.nbh

These apps you should install to the sd card expansion:

Click HERE for SkyFire

Click HERE for Office

Click HERE for Total Commander

Click HERE for Youtube

Click HERE for TCPMP

If I installed this on the device it would take up more than 25mb of storage mem.

__________________________

Pedro:

Working on yours now..

numaverick:

Do you want TouchFLO, Titanium Menu or both?

What Page Pool do you want?

What apps Specifically do you want?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] izzzy12k:
I installed R8 and it's working fine...

With S2U2 my memory is very close to not being able to run skyfire, if it does load.. touchflo has to be restarted afterwards. (but running skyfire is a last resort if I can't see what I want in opera)

I installed all the cabs you posted and all installed fine.

thanks for all your help!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Thanks Izzy and Lewrydiboys - Let me know what ya think. And that was a waste of a SuperBowl >.>

_______________

Baron

:

Click HERE for your ROM

I am going to make you a ROM that is light. You see, there are apps that you can install by SD card as well - So I will post those kind of apps.

If I installed them it would take up 16mb of Storage mem.

Click HERE for Windows Live

Click HERE for Opera Mobile 10

Click HERE for YouTube

Click HERE for Office 2010
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pungcheer:
Problem from install program on SD

:confused::confused::confused:

Excuse me. My english is not good.

My Dopod C800 (Herald) have some problem

1. If I install Program on SD Card (Coreplayer, GoogleMaps) and do softreset, my device boot to HTC Screen and Your WindowMobile Logo.... but It can't run to Home screen. it reset again and again.

2. When I try to eject SDcard from my phone... It's work!! But some icon from sd card will error.

3. if I install same program to phone memory. my phone can reset and boot normally

4. I try another card by copy all... it's same problem to every try( I suggest that my SD is NOT a problem)

5. I think becuz icon program on WM 6.5 menu is a problem...

can you tell me how I can fix it. Thank you
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
I don't know of a fix for that. I get that same problem sometimes too. But, like you said, you have to take the sdcard out to load. When it loads I just pop the sd card back in. The apps will look like a box but after a while they go back to normal.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pungcheer:
Thank you again.

I try many WM6.5 Rom. Every rom have same this error.

I want More RAM and stable. can you advice me for 6.1 or 6.5 Roms you build or another one.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ee99161:
I Tribul. I'm flashing right now. I'll get back to you when finished.

Thank you.

Pedro Reis
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ee99161:
Very nice man. You didn't change the icons in Manilla bottom bar, but that's ok...

Thank you again man...

Pedro Reis
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Yeah, I decided I wasn't going to change anything about the looks of my ROM only because I felt that it was taking away from what I worked on. I look at my ROMs like artists look at there art. I hope you understand.

Also, pungcheer, my ROM on my front page is the best you will find that has what you want. If you're looking for more ram with my ROM then just go to settings/HOME >> Item's page and then uncheck/disable TouchFLO and you'll get 24mb to 26mb of ram.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ee99161:
Ofcourse i understand :).

Great work man. I'll keep trying the ROM man...

Thank you.

Pedro Reis
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
I just realized that

ROM

I made was meant for Baron :1

For some reason I thought you were baron and he was you, lol.

SO what would you like in your ROM?

The Rom you have flashed now that is supposed to be for Baron has this in it:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dagamer01:
thnx trib. I'll be trying the rom you posted for me either 2night or tomorrow night when i get home and have some time. I'll let you know if there are any problems. Thanks again for your efforts.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CheeseDave:
Can i ask a question? At some older builds I had a problem, that SIM Contacts didnt shown at Phone. How did u fix that?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] baronmxc:
yeah it was a waste of a Superbowl but at least the Saints won their first ever Superbowl as well as making it to the Superbowl for the first time in franchise history. Nice job guys.

Back on topic

Thanks a lot for taking your time with this and I am downloading as we speak. I assume that the PedroR4.nbh was meant for me? Otherwise thanks. We know that you live a busy life just like us (if I could only get more time to look over the kitchen, then I could do this myself. at the moment it just looks like mumble jumble haha.) I will let you know if I run into any problems.

OOOHHHH you know I forgot to mention. Did you make this with the Herald Keyboard or the Wing Keyboard? Because I have a Herald. Man I feel dumb when I usually spell out what I have.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Your welcome - I hope you like it.

I just used a different sim manager software..

Your welcome. And yeah, I made it with a wing keyboard. I'll remake yours with the herald keyboard and rename it you, lol. And I'd like to see you guys make ROMs one day; I will definitely test them out for you guys..

Lastly, IMPORTANT - RUN THE CONNECTION SETUP WIZARD IN SETTINGS\CONNECTIONS to use the internet with your device.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] baronmxc:
Oh I thought maybe there was some kind of CAB file for a keyboard fix. But thanks though for redoing it. I know this will come out nicely. And no doubt I'll try to get in the cooking scene for as long as the Herald lasts (though I have been contemplating a Nexus One or a TP2 later when their bugs iron out). If we were able to pull of 6.5 imagine pulling off 7.0 lol. But I think I'll be using the Herald till it finally croaks.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Your welcome. I am uploading baron.nbh now with the keyboard layout for herald.

Yeah, I'll use my Wing to it dies too. Then I'll upgrade, lol. Or maybe next year - tax season..

Cheers.

Edit:

HERE

ya go, Baron.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] baronmxc:
Thank you. Downloading now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Your welcome. What I am thinking you might want to do is, if you're running an app that is memory hungry, just go to Settings>>Home>>Items page and disable TouchFlo. This will give you a gain of 9mb.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] baronmxc:
Hey I have flashed the ROM and its very nice but I did encounter 2 problems so far.

1) When you press and hold the power button, the menu that shows up is supposed to let you power off the device. However when you choose to power off, it just puts it back into sleep mode. It may be that this button referred to SLEEP instead OFF on accident.

2) I did everything you said with the connection setup, but the internet is not working. I even tried to enter it in manually and it still wouldn't go.

Other than that everything else is good, except I was not able to check the programs that use the internet yet. Hope you can find the solution. Thanks a lot.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dagamer01:
hey trib,

just finished flashing the rom. It seems great so far. I'll install all the extras that i need/want and let you know if i run into any problems. Thanks again dude.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
I actually don't have a data plan so I can't access the internet :1

Did you restart your device after running the connection setup?

But everyone seems to have the same problem with their ROMs not not shutting off properly.

Good to hear. Hope you're happy with it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kswissonez:
Bit-o-problem here

I really like this ROM, after my g1 broke I had to resurrect my wing haha. . . Anyways, the major problem I have with this is my MMS. I've been searching high and low for a solution to the small pictures I receive. I've done all I can and now I'm stressed, I just flashed your ROM today and really liking it.

Can you please help me out a bit? Iv'e done maybe 4 different proxy things, installed maybe 4 cabs, soft-reset, and still nothing is working.

Anyone care to help me out? It would be much appreciative.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
What exactly is the problem you're having o.O?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] dagamer01:
Hey Trib,

After playing around with the rom for a while and installing all the apps, i really like how its running. The only thing missing is the Option to have applications close when i press the "X" button. Im not sure if i forgot to tell you that i needed that. Anyway, is there a way to get that feature added without recooking the rom? if so, how do i do that? if not can you please cook the rom the way it is with that feature? Thats kinda a very important feature to me.

Thanks,

Gamer.