yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
I use all three. I use skyfire if I am viewing flash intense/rich sites i.e anime sites. I own three of them..

Opera I like to use when I am on XDA forums at work, lol.

And I use I.E. when there is something that the other two can't run. Oddly enough.. it works on IE :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
HEY i just tried the compact qwerty and full qwerty and they worked!! idk why they didnt work before...?? o well its all good now

ok i found out the problem..i cant do any of those options when the phone is in the slide out position..but when its normal, the options all work fine
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
That is a relief to hear that, lol.

1.6.5 BT is going to be horrible on memory. I don't think anyone can even use it unless they have an expansion card. I wish the Wing/Herald had more resources..
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
well what do you know?? youtube works as well! ok so why do you think it didnt work the first time??? so weird haha
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
You know what is wierd.. My phone restarted only once on this 1.6.5 and hasn't since. And now that I think about it, it restarted once only on all my other builds.. And I think I ran into similar instances as you did where things weren't working, then, after the random restart, things just started working.

I'm going to have to pay closer attention, lol :o
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] richardlw2001:
i wonder if u took apart the wing/herald ..is there a way to find a way to give more memory..........anyone???:D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
That would be pretty cool to do if it was , say, a spare device. If I ever get another phone I may try to do just that. :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
OKay. In about 20 minutes or so I will be uploading version 1.6.5. Can someone test run it for me and see if the BlueTooth capability is working?

I'll keep editing this post to let you guys know where I am at when I am done flashing, when I start uploading and when i'm done uploading..etc..
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
will 1.6.5 include manilla?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Yes. It will essentially be 1.6 M2D but with BlueTooth capabilities.

So far I am about 80% flashed.

Okay, now I am uploading via Rapidshare..

Hopefully I configured the bluetooth to work on it correctly..
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
oh ok cool..btw pandora on 1.5.5 has the same adobe problem as youtube did..my phone restarted on its own again, but pandora still didnt load when i tried the next 6 times!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Pandora only works on skyfire for some reason. I also have a Pandora app in my App archive on the first post.

You see IE can only use adobe flash light. Not the same codec as skyfire uses..

But it restarted again, huh.. Hmm....

Well.. 1.6.5 BT is up on the first page. Thanks to whomever test it for me. Just need to know if BlueTooth works on it or not..

OH yeah, my next post.. I become a senior member :D lol.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Deaconclgi:
Rapidshare

Hello,

I am unable to download your latest M2D with Bluetooth because rapidshare says that there are no more slots for Free Users and that I will have to become a premium user to download. Can you host the download on another site?

Thank you for your ROM developement and hard work.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Hey, no problem. I get out of work in 4 hours. I will do a Megaupload mirror for you.

+And thank you for using my ROM. ^>^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
=[ 1.5.5 has restarted on me about 6 times since i got it last night..and the sms button on the side of the wing does not work..i'm gonna try the latest 1.6.5 though

alrighty well i clicked on the rapidshare link for 1.6.5 and it says for some reason it can only be downloaded 10 times and the limit has been reached..just let me know when its available again!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Seems like 1.5.5 is the only one still giving me problems with restarting..

Button 4 is actually a button you have to set I believe. I don't think I have a way of allocating it to a program like sms.

Oh yeah, I have to remake 1.6.5 because I didn't save it to my computer. Well it was written over by my kitchen. But I will use MegaUpload for the manager.

I will take a look at 1.5.5 more and see what I didn't add that I added - or vice versa - what I forgot to add that I added to the others.

EDIT :

1.6.5, for you manilla/bluetooth users, is updated (and new download link) :)

I am also stripping down 1.5.5 so I can figure out why it's restarting.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
awesome..ait so all i have to do is replace the nbh file? and run romupdate?

btw any stats available for 1.6.5??
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Yeah. Just delete (or sometimes save) the .nbh file that is there with the new one that you want to flash.

LOL I'm flashing my device with the new 1.5.5 right now.:p

EDIT:

1.6.5 Stats - 18MB Free Storage + 20MB Program Memory Free

And I just finished uploading 1.5.5 (33.54MB Storage Free + 20.34MB Program Memory Free)

Anyone willing to test my BlueTooth (1.5.5 and 1.6.5) Editions?

I know 1.5.0 and 1.6.0 are working great but 1.5.5 and 1.6.5, the bluetooth editions, I am still not sure of..
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] 9876:
I'm going to test out 1.6.5 now. 1.5 kept restarting on me.

I'll let you know how it goes :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Yeah. Thats what is wierd. So I stripped it down and just put up a new 1.5.5. I hope the restarting issue is resolved now.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
weird habit

ok so i've flashed twice now..and both times i get the "tap to set up your windows mobile" so i tap it to start tapping those targets..but then my screen goes white and i cant do anything so i have to restart it..then everything goes normal..????

also, what does "would you like to let the device choose the connection for this SIM card?" mean?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Does you GUI (graphical user interface) look like my screenshots?

When it pops up asking about choosing the connection for the simcard, choose YES because it will automatically choose Data settings based on your service provider. You may have to run the network wizard as well if the sim configurator doesn't allocate the correct settings for your carrier.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
ok so far the touchflo format is my favorite..but...ok first, when you slide out the phone, it doesnt change to landscape! for some reason the phone doesnt turn off, the screen just turns off..i see the "launch browser" and "youtube" links on the internet tab, but nothing happens..wifi cannot be turned on..i restarted the phone manually and still no good to any of the problems

ok i tried to open up IE from the start menu and it opened so i know wifi is working, but it does not show it at all..when you go to the touchflo settings, the checkboxes saying "enable large start menu" and "show system status screen when status icons are tapped" do not work..you can check them, but go back and they're unchecked

in the people tab of touchflo, you can add contacts, but for me, none of my contacts show when i choose it..but if i go to my contacts from start menu, they're all there
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Actually, when you press the power button it will only turn the screen off. You have to hold the power button in to turn off the device.

Landscape support is still being inserted into this version.

Youtube should work. Let me check and see what I have the settings for..

Wifi should be there too. But let me see. I will make another 1.6.5 with wifi and youtube if need be
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
yea i hold down the power button, and it says "do you want to turn off?" i press yes and all it does is go dark..and for me sometimes youtube works, sometimes not

but i LOVE touchflo
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
ok i realized that you have to save your wanted contact to the phone to add it to "People"

..and i tried waiting this time when i turned off my phone, but it restarted
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] oofoof:
hey sorry i havent been testing the new roms ive been on a lil weekend getaway for my birthday yesterday but i will b back tomorrow to help test and run the roms and check 'em out...it was crazy the 1.5.5 had been working soooo perfect for me until randomly today it started doin the restart thing again

also just go a new touch pro 2 today and im loving it...this thing is a beast compared to the tiny lil wing but i will still b updating roms on my wing and testing so no worries on that front
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
I'm making a new 1.6.5 because I wasn't aware that the launch browser wasn't working. So I flashed it now and I'll have it uploaded once I am done testing it. I also made sure that there is wifi. Also I made sure to check all the other thouchflo menu's seem to be working.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Lol, no need to appologize.. I am grateful that you are available to help me test my ROM's out. And Happy belated B-day :D

Oh yeah, I put up a new 1.5.5 build and a 1.6.5 build on the first post.. hopefully the restarting issue is resolved.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] 9876:
bluetooth is working fine in 1.6.5 but my phone is still randomly restarting

Also, could you please change the background to the default touchflo one?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] djrajir:
I still cant seem to find whats causing the restarts, I cooked a few with SJK v0.7 and keep getting the same problem.

however when I use your 1.65 and 1.4 I dont have that problem.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Yeah, I only seem to get the restarting in the 1.5.5 and 1.6. I can't figure it out either, so I did what you did and cooked with Ivan's .07 and I am still getting the same thing -_-

I'm thinking its just the 28008 Build. I can't wait for others to post there ROM's with 28008 so I can see if it's the same thing for them.

So calling other cooks, lol.

And to 9876 - My background is kindof the theme in all of my ROM's. :o
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
sd formatting

guys i'm thinking if i flash into my micro SD then the whole thing will run a little smoother..but i have no idea how to do it..i cant find and card reader on my comp and i need to format the card to fat32..how do it do it? :(
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Unfortunately, my ROM's can't be flashed through the sd card being that they are more than 49mb.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] djrajir:
yeah I think it has to do with 28008 and .Ncf cause it does it less often with the 3.7 framework then the 3.5
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
sup guys..i flashed the latest 1.6.5 and it still has problems turning off..it doesnt turn off, it prompts me and then it just goes dark..and also the launch browser and browser choices do not work..but yea let me know if anyone else has a rom update!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
I'll try to make a micro edition tonight so you can flash by sd.

Im also going to add a different manila tonight so the launch browser can work.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] djrajir:
Which one works I have yet to find one that the internet tab works on.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
yo trib the sliding landscape view and camera arent working for manilla..and the "all bookmarks" option is unresponsive

and does anyone know my shutdown problem? if i hold down the power button, it will prompt me to turn off, i press yes, and all it does is turn off the screen, but if i leave it like that, the phone will restart..so far i'm unable to turn my phone off
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
It seems like the 28008 build is the problem. Im going to remake the ROMs with 28005 and see if that is the cause.

I dont know why there would be this issue of the restarting and whatnot.

Ill make sure the camera works in these ROMs though.

Ill be on probably in another 4 to 5 hours; I am still at work..
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] djrajir:
Yeah I am starting to think so aswell. I went back to cooking with 23071 would you mind hooking me up with your sys and xip folders for 28005?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
sweet yea i'm not worried about it being 28008, but i do have to say manilla is rather sexy..i'll be ready to flash! i just need to know how to format microSD (1 gb) to fat32!!!!! :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] brian7000:
btw thanks for the BT edition....I'm luvin it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Here is 28005:

http://mediafire.com/?ikhmtguzzno

Ill make the ROMs soon.. Im at a friends house.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] djrajir:
TYVM Now if I could only find the dang extrom file I like SJK but its abit different.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] oofoof:
thanks for the birthday wishes...and i just felt bad cuz im usually right there the second u post up the new rom and im sorry to say ive been busy playin with the touch pro2 and updating that and kinda neglected the wing today but...have there been any changes recently to ur rom

im just goin to download wutevers on the front page and check it out now to see...and just a suggestion that might make it easier for people to know how new ur rom is maybe post the time or date when u edit the links to the rom

[EDIT] i guess i wont b downloading wutevers on the front page cuz megauploads tellin me ive downloaded too much from them and i need to wait til tomorrow
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Okay. I'm home and ready to work on the ROMs using 28005. I'm hoping that will be the "problem solved" to our problems, lol.

Thanks for the tip Oof. I will do that from now on..

Here we go. I'll post up soon updates. :)

Also, You can download all the files from JustKitchen.info, Ivan's site, for the file you are looking for, djrajir.

Update: I am flashing v1.5.5 now made with 28005 sys and 28008 xip (which is 28005 just renamed in most cases anyhow).
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
i shouldnt be awake now but i gotta get the new ROM!!!!!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
I know what you mean. I wan't to get this working so badly.

I wish others would make some 28005/8 ROMs so I can test theirs and see if it's happening to them as well, lol.

UPDATE: Cooking 1.5.5 again (forgot the camera)

(Oh yeah, I have an all new startup pic :D lol)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] oofoof:
well im up and im able to download things again so i should b able to help test this one as soon as u get it goin to see if it resolves the problems
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
-__-

Guess I can't mix 28005 sys with 28008 xip.

I'm gonna head to bed and work on this more tomorrow; I'll be making a ROM with 28005 xip and sys instead of combining them like I did.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CheeseDave:
Cant turn off wifi.

I get in WLAN settings, in main window, i see Turn On Wireless LAN, but when i click to it nothing happens.

Then I go to Comm Manager, click to Wifi (which is displayed as OFF), then its start to load the wifi, i can connect to networks so its definitely on, but the comm manager still says its off. From this point, I cant turn it off. When i press again wifi in comm manager, nothing happens, nor in Wlan settings.

Cant turn on bluetooth in comm manager either.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Okay. I'll change the wifi manager and comm manager in my next builds..

I am starting from scratch and working my way backward this time, starting with the biggest ROM, my version 1.6.5BT. That way I don't forget certain apps, like the camera, lol.

Update: Cooking 1.6.5 now, about to flash.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] 9876:
i noticed that touchflo settings wont change in 1.6.5
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Tribulattifather:
Update: Uploading the new 1.6.5

I think all the problems should be just about solved now. I will post the link on the first page in just a few moments..

If anyone has time, will someone please test? :)

Also - I could not fit Opera on the ROM - and that is all that is needed to use the "Launch Browser" feature.

Will link in just a second too.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] coolndnguy:
i'm here to flash..let me know when its ready!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] libove:
My Topaz screen has developed a disappointing amount of scuff marks in the four months I've had it, making it not quite as clear to read in a few specific areas as I'd like.

Does anyone know of products or services to polish or replace the screen?

And, thereafter, any product (preferably cheap so I can replace it occasionally as needed) which will protect the screen without noticeably reducing the touch sensitivity? (Since the Topaz touchscreen just isn't quite as good as some of its competitors in sensitivity to start with).

Thanks!

Jay
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] niknik76:
you have to replace the digitizer, do a search on "digitizer" in this forum. you can get them as low as 20$ on ebay. I just bought one, but I haven't got it yet.. with screen protector I don't know..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] shayan.k:
if you still have the htc warranty u should send it in
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] wenxi:
does warranty cover scratch marks that we made? No right?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] libove:
warranty wouldn't cover this, I think

I checked with the authorized vendor from whom I purchased my device. They replied that the warranty doesn't cover screen scratches. Much as I'd like the warranty to cover this, I can't see how it should...

Given that warranties, by statute here in Spain, are 2 years, I'm not going to void it by opening the device and replacing the digitizer myself (my device is less than six months old, and something more important - and covered by a non-voided warranty - might happen in the next 18 months). So I'll check with official tech support and see what they charge for replacing the screen (in a way that doesn't void the warranty).

Oh well...

Jay
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] shayan.k:
oh ok sorry for that, now i understand.

let me ask you a question. are there dust particles getting into your device? if so then you can ask them to replace the digitilizer for you.

for me dust was getting into the screen on the top left corner and i told them and they called me and told me that they were going to replace the digitilizer.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] libove:
Nope, no dust, just my own scratches. Heh.

Yeah, I'd seen the discussions about dust getting in. Unfortunately, I don't have that problem to leverage as a way to get HTC to pay for my new digitizer screen :-}

Thanks anyway everyone, cheers.

Jay
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] player911:
This is what screen protectors are for. HTC phones comes with one in the box. All the phones I own, their screens look brand new. The HTC Screen protectors are actually pretty nice quality.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] gideonMorrison:
Same, look on Ebay for some good screen protectors...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] johnny.g:
Quik - HTC Touch Diamond2 Twin Screen Protector Pack - these are fantastic ! A class above the standard one- if anything better ssurface than the stanard screen.. and yes you're supposed to put them on at the beginning ;), but you might fine that they cover the scratches well enough

get them from Amazon
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] geejayoh:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.

Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.

1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.

leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens

leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?

leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.

leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?

leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?

leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?

If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?

Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] SuperM1887:
Landscape support

Go to the aplications side of the thread. Theres apost called "Project Pulse"

Its a mod of 2.5 that supports landscape in all tabs but is still in early form with a few bugs. The developer is working on the bugs and will continue to update it. Its deffinatly worth looking at if you want to see landscape support for 2.5
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] k2thejx5:
well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.

1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.

2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.

3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.

4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.

5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.

6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.

7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] geejayoh:
Thanks for your answers man.

You're right it shouldn't be in the ROM section. But I kind of ummed and aarrred about it, and as you said yourself, it's a mixed bag whether manila is cooked in or not. Haha.

But very informative and I appreciate the time your took to reply. Kind of gives a good indication.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] raniux:
I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this

I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this