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[G1 Android Development] phamous:
hopefully the dream will be able to run it, it all depends whether or not htc decides to give use the proprietary drivers to have 2.0 working on our phones.

RT @cyrowski

"Eclair won't build for ADP1 or ADP2 out of the box. Will need to wait on vendors for proprietary drivers."

RT @cyanogen

"cyanogen

Probably will start by backporting features- we need new proprietary drivers for our Dream/Magic devices."

====

jbqueru :

@maxisma Unfortunately, the drop doesn't compile for the ADPs

maxisma :

@jbqueru Whats the problem? Just the drivers in the kernel? Hope not more..

jbqueru :

@maxisma Actually, user-space libraries that talk to the various components (especially media-related stuff).

maxisma :

@jbqueru damn :( Hope @htc will provide support for our already "outdated" devices.. Thanks for your answer ;)

EDIT:

cyanogen

Just booted Eclair on my G1 :)
[G1 Android Development] yoshitoshi:
can't rush art....

just be a good boy and wait for the magic to happen
[G1 Android Development] Wii60:
Already been released.

Sorry had to. Someone toss me in the PUN-tentary.
[G1 Android Development] lotherius:
Honestly,

I have a feeling we won't ever see drivers for 2.0 for the Dream/Magic. I'm with the camp that feels they're being EOL'd only a year in. If HTC doesn't release a 2.0 for dream/magic, then we'll never have fully operational devices past 1.6.

This is pretty much the only thing I *do not* like about Android, is that Google treats backward compatibility the same way Linux does: by not considering it at all. Of course, I can hope I'm wrong, because I'm *not* switching to Verizon, and I don't see anything decent coming down the pipe at T-Mobile.
[G1 Android Development] Frito37:
How did cyanogen just boot donut on his g1?
[G1 Android Development] lotherius:
He backported features one by one until an official release of Donut was made. Also, booting is different than fully functional. Fwiw, someone out there actually booted up Android on a Treo 650 recently. Doesn't mean any of the drivers worked properly! Same here - booting is only the first step.
[G1 Android Development] Wii60:
That Sony Xperia has the 1700 Mhz band. And it looks sexy as all get out.
[G1 Android Development] coolbho3000:
Eclair, eclair, eclair, eclair.

Tasting some eclairs now. :)
[G1 Android Development] Pinesal:
Are you really testing it?
[G1 Android Development] metallicant:
Same here since day 1...!!!!!
[G1 Android Development] ChrisDos:
I don't think you understand Linux then. Linux is about as backward compatible as an OS gets. Can you put Windows on a i386 and expect it to work. No. Linux still boots just fine on a i386 and still runs very decent (Actually, it even runs on a i286). Linux also supports most architectures out there, unlike Windows and Mac. Only OS that supports more I believe is NetBSD.

Open-Android-Alliance wants to replace all proprietary with open source pieces. I don't know if that includes drivers or not. We will see. Actually, I see HTC releasing drivers for 2.0. Just not much after that. I just hope the Linux community can reverse engineer the drivers to create open source version so our phones can keep being updated.

There is no other phone on the market that I would want more right now than the G1. I use *nix for pretty much all my computing needs and having a five row keyboard with all the keys I need in *nix is very important to me.
[G1 Android Development] cyanogen:
We will get it working, don't worry :)
[G1 Android Development] metallicant:
I just might have to buy you a CASE OF BEER!!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Lomius:
I wish VAJA or Krusell or Piel Frama had cases yet. But Im impatient. But this case looks nice. I ordered it off Amazon. Ill let yall know my thoughts...

there are 3 versions. I got the VERTICAL

Horizontal

Sleeve

unfortunately the pics are not too descriptive, nor the text. So I am not sure you can use the keyboard. Which would be a bummer if not. Ill let you know when I get it...

Got it. Fortunately it does allow keyboard use.

As you can see all the buttons are still fully accessible. The keyboard will take a bit getting used to with the plastic sheet over it. But not too bad. It is definitely too tight out of the box to hold a credit card or ID card. But I dont use this as a wallet anyways. Its not too bulky. No moreso then a wallet. It does come with an optional belt clip but I never wear those. The leather is nice and smooth and Looks nice on this phone. It is not as high end as my old Krusell cases for my axim but it works well. All in all I am happy with it. It looks sleek and does not take away from functionality of the device at all. It is currently connect to my pc via usb and there are no obstructions as well.

Id say 4.5/5 only for the fact that if I wanted to fit a credit card id have to fight it a while. Otherwise it does exactly what I expected and hope it to do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] what150:
Try this man,

http://www.thinktouchpro2.com/

: )
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] 3waygeek:
Krusell does have a TP2 case -- I've had it for a couple weeks now. It's quite similar to the TouchPro case, except for a few things:

The inner liner is gray, not tan.

The TP2 case is a much tighter fit than the TP case.

The flip cover has a cutout for the ExtUSB jack so you can plug in a charger when the case is closed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Lomius:
Krusell

Can you tell me the link for the krusell one. Ive always liked there cases when I didnt feel like spending a car payment on Vaja. I just checked their website. Maybe im special but I cant find the Krusell case for the ATT tilt 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Lomius:
I really liked the Body Glove case for my Asus back in the day. But this one got HORRIBLE reviews...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] 3waygeek:
The Krusell TP2 case is part number 75424, and I ended up getting it through Amazon.com; it took a bit of effort to find as the usual outlets don't seem to be carrying it yet. Expansys doesn't list it on their web site, but the Amazon store indicates that the item comes from Expansys.

I've been using it with my Tilt 2 for a couple weeks' now; it's a very tight fit, so it may not be for you if you're always popping the back off to swap mem cards, batteries, or SIM cards.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Lomius:
This case worked out very nicely. If you are looking for a nice leather case I would definitely try it. To me it was worth every penny and does exactly what I hoped.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] MightyCrys:
It looks ok, but you didn't saw this model first? It seems to have a good build quality, anyone use it?

http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000654&products_id=17234
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Lomius:
Looks nearly identical. However the white stitching is not my thing. Nonetheless this one was not available at the time of my post. Believe me I scoured the four corners of the internet for a good leather case for this. I am still gonna by a VAJA when it comes out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] sanjsrik:
I've seen those leather cases and I don't get it. Every time you want to answer the phone you look silly with the thing hanging down and flapping in the breeze. I'm sure they're fine for some, for me, they seem a bit oddly designed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] 3waygeek:
The Krusell's front cover is removable, presumably to address this very concern.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] ScooterG:
And what is so wrong with "flapping in the breeze"! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Lomius:
Err I alleviate this problem by grabbing around the cover when its folded back. So it flapping has never been a problem... I've always preferred this type of case though. However, its all personal preference. I think someone was boasting the "NICEST LEATHER CASE" and when I looked at it, it was a horribly ugly brown phone..."purse" thing with a lanyard... So yeah all personal preference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] jabberoo:
Hi All

Krussell TP2 cases are, sorry were, utter crap.

I don't think they even offer them for sale anymore, with good reason.

They, as in Krussell, are a crap company to deal with who do not honour their product warranty.

Advice: Steer clear of Krussell, did i mention they suck...!

Cheers

Jabberoo
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] davidclarkdsi:
Krussell TP2 cases are woeful, avoid like the plague

Hi All

I agree with Jabberoo the Krussell TP2 cases were poor, poor, poor.

Though I found their customer service to be good to deal with in that they sent me a replacement product when I sent them a photo showing that the TP2 did not fit the case.

Unfortunately the replacement case was of a similar low quality (despite there being a big QA sticker on it)

Cavet Emptor and all that.

Regards,

D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] jabberoo:
Quite true...

However, i did attemmpt to argue with them that sending me a 'generic' side slide case was pointless, as the TP2 comes with one anyway - beyond that, it was not what i paid for in good faith.

I agued for a refund in light of they could not replace a 'same' or 'better' product through no fault of my own. They stopped sending responses, i have emailed them perhaps 25 times with no further response.....

Shock horror....!!

Here's me out 50 bucks with a broken (defective) product they have not replaced or refunded. So, technically, they are thieves (not to mention Wankers too....)

I will tarnish their name whenever, wherever possible..>!

(Did i mention they are Wankers...???)

Cheers to all

Jabberoo
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Lomius:
Krusell...

Wow Im sorry you have had such a bad dealing with Krusell. For my intermediate products such as cameras and mp3 players I always used Krusell. However I have always loved and sprung for th Vaja cases or piel frama. Unfotunately for the Rhodium I agree the PF case looks horrid like an oversized Hot Dog bun... I will agree that the Krusell TP2 case is fugly too. Sad they really do look like they have gone down hill...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] mhurg:
I like the PF Classic one though, but I agree the iMagnum looks like your description. Thinking of getting the Classic, but can't see from the pictures whether you can access the mini-USB or not :-/ Looks like you can't, which is a bummer. Gah.

EDIT: Nevermind, you can. Was easier to see on the red case :-P I'm getting one!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Lomius:
You ALMOST had me with this one. I was almost excited. But it doesnt look like you can pull out the keyboard. Can anyone verify this.

Looking at the Classic which looks nice. That Magnum hot dog bun is just fun to laugh at now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] mhurg:
You can't pull out the keyboard, no. For me that's not an issue though since I don't use it THAT often and if I do, I can pull the TP2 out of the case entirely. For most texts etc I only use the screen keyboard anyway.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] PUTALE:
anyone tried this case:

http://www.thinktouchpro2.com/htc-touch-pro-2-cases-7951.html

I am thinking of getting that one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] agentfusion:
No offense... the case is nice, but is it really bright to have your card number visible? There are a lot of unscrupulous people who could have a field day with that information. Perhaps blurring it, or retaking the photo with another card of some sort that doesn't contain personal information?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] agentfusion:
PF has some rather amazing cases... well, they become amazing once you take a classic and customize it. All in all, I'd LIKE to spend the almost $200 on a case, but I noticed something: No PTT button. I'll be damned if I'm going to cut a PF case to make room for my PTT button. (My Tilt2 is issued by work, and we actually do use PTT)
[HD2 General] gargon01:
Hi guys, I'm new to this forum and it's a pleasure to be a new member! As a brief introduction, I'm completely new to HTC, Windows Mobile and any non-Symbian device! I've used Nokia's, Sony Ericssons & Motorola's all my life and Symbian is all I know, I think you get the picture......

Anyhow, I should be getting my HD2 within the next few days because I fell in love with it as soon as I saw it and I just want to know where to start?! This looks like the most comprehensive forum I've seen on the net and I couldn't think of a better place to start learning. I know it's a bit of a broad question and I have had a look through a number of posts to get my bearings, as such. I've seen posts about Roms, registry modifications, patches...... and it all sounds very interesting and I want to know all the functions and information I can about my new device.

Coming from the Symbian background, everything is pretty straightforward but Windows Mobile sounds a lot more technical and something I'm looking forward to learning about. Any information or tips about what I should & shouldn't do to help improve performance/tweak the device would be much appreciated and I'm a fast learner. PS I've seen this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583638

and will work my way through it when I get the device, but it seems to be aimed at people with some previous experience with this platform. I'm sure you guys see these tpye of 'Help Me!' posts all the time but thanks in advance.:)
[HD2 General] lucid:
Welcome aboard, great first posting. Showing the threads you read already makes many people want to help you more.

If you come from Symbian, some stuff will be the same, i.e. you use icons for programs.

What differs the most is the customization possibilities and the level of deep control you have over the behaviour of your new machine.

Get to grips with Microsoft Mobile Device Center, (syncing your data).

Do you have an Exchange account or Gmail ? You can setup your device to have pushmail connectivity with GMail or Exchange.

If you don't own an Exchange Server, you can setup your own free

Custom Domain at http://domains.live.com and have your own email adress as a LIVE-ID and have pushmail with it (free).

Then, I would dig in to the many cool free applications around.

Yes, hunt for .cab files as they will install over the air (OTA) and from your device.

Another tip: When you get your device, start at the first Icon, view it, try and dig deeper in the menu's, always. Press and hold the screen/text to see if there are context menu's.

Then work your way through all the settings and icons available. It will take you about 3 days to see all the menu's and options, although the first 80% you will discover the first day :)

Hope you will enjoy the transition.
[HD2 General] Keepingitrealz:
Hey guys

First off, this a awesome site with heaps of help. And advice which is great

Secondly I amnew here too and hopefully getting my hd2 soon. Can't wait!!
[HD2 General] gargon01:
Thanks a lot for the replies guys, very informative H2D2 and thanks for the tips lucid. It's good to know that there are other people in a similar situation to myself! If anyone can post any relevant links to any apps or roms/cab files that might be useful for a first-timer then it would be much appreciated. In the meantime, I'll keep doing the research and, if I find anything myself, I'll post it here. Thanks again.
[HD2 General] Isadora:
Well I'm new as well :) so hi everyone!

I used to have a wm phone but that was a few years ago and things have changed a lot since then... so have a bit of catching up to do. Been browsing on here the last few days and ordered the HD2 this morning.

Gargon, I'm sure you'll get used to it all in no time, I know it all looks confusing at first but really it's not that bad and I'm sure the nice people on here will help if you're stuck.
[HD2 General] fards:
the wiki is a great tool (not much on the HD2 in there yet) but background reading on other devices is good.

As long as you're willing to take time to learn to use the search (often searching around the term you're looking for) then you'll solve issues you may have quickly as well..

several of us are happy to discuss stuff on PM as well..

and don't forget if you find something that you think others would find useful,

The WIKI is always there, to be edited at your leisure :p
[HD2 General] Xaddict:
Welcome

Very nice attitude from Gargon01 and H2D2.

You are on the right track about the winmo os.

In itself it is clunky on the surface but the structure sits on the registry database which is accessible through a registry editor.

This forum is quite unique and must be the largest of It's kind, that is, a community of smartphone developers/hackers.

I have been dropping in for 4 years but only started flashing recently after buying an HD.

The HD came with an earlier development of Touchflo and I saw rom versions on Youtube etc of more advanced versions from XDA Devs.

I took the plunge in flashing roms and have been addicted ever since.

I am running the latest version of sense on my HD but am awaiting an HD2 from clove tech on the uk for which sense was made.

There are many brilliant people in this community who generously offer their creativity, time and energy.

You are in the right place. More will be revealed.
[HD2 General] gargon01:
Thanks a lot for the responses guys, exactly what me and I'm sure a lot of other new users are looking for! I'll look for the Resco File Viewer jgal, there was a similar app called Modo on Symbian that was also used for deep-file exploration/modification purposes.

Also, it's good to know that there are a lot of similarities to the desktop version of Windows. I'd like to think that I'm pretty proficient with that so I'll look forward to taking that knowledge and applying it to the HD2.

A big thanks to all the other users who have contributed to the post as well! I was pretty sure that my thread would fade away into non-existence but it's good to know that people seem genuinely interested in offering help and advice.

I should hopefully be getting the handset on Monday so I'll give it a good examination and keep you all posted should I run into any problems. Keep the tips/links coming though, my brain is like a sponge!! Cheers.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
In Manila 2.1, is there any way to change the default wallpaper image to another one but still have the full screen weather animations in home tab?

Perhaps any reg edit?

Any help is apreciated

Thanks,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] zelendel:
Do a search for HDWall and use that to change the default wall paper.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Thanks I´ll go for it:)
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] sxatster:
What is bad.... i have only one line on signal WLAN on PDA (<1 meter from router, on any other WLAN device is ok (full signal)

System: Windows Mobile 5 ROM 1.38.69.3 PLK (orange pl)

Radio: 03.21.90

WLAN is WPA2 on 4 channel
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] JBZg1:
PLEASE HELP

ROM version : 3.57.502.2 WWE

ROM date : 7/17/09

Radio Version : 1.65.21.18

Protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] JBZg1:
PLEASE HELP

it all started today when i would send text messages, sometimes i would get signal and sometimes i wont and my calls would be dropped!

ROM version : 3.57.502.2 WWE

ROM date : 7/17/09

Radio Version : 1.65.21.18

Protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] efrarc:
are you running on 3g network?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] JBZg1:
Does it have to be running on 3G network?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] JBZg1:
yes its running on 3G network
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] lorenr8525:
Bad Tilt Motherboards

The reason your Tilt is losing data/phone connection is quite possibly a bad system board. The only way to temporarily get around it is to turn off 3g for the phone (which limits you to Edge connections) and make sure that HSDPA is not enabled. This will force an edge connection and should keep you from dropping calls. If you still have a warranty on the phone, I advise you get it repaired through AT&T. This is a common problem with the Tilt. (Mine included, which is out of warranty).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] efrarc:
Same here that is why i ask you just turn off the 3g and that will help your drop calls problem
[HD2 General] daming:
I am looking for the official traditional Chinese ROM, who can give me help.

THX
[HD2 General] JohnQ:
there is no official traditional chinese rom yet .
[HD2 General] daming:
The traditional Chinese HD2 is open sold inTaiwan over 2 weeks.
[HD2 General] JohnQ:
i know.

.
[HD2 General] controller38:
Not yet. HD2 hasn't been released to market in Taiwan until now.

Most retailers said the HD2 will be available later next week.
[HD2 General] shawchyn:
China GuanZhou already can buy the Chinese ROM HD2. It is in Chinese ROM not english.
[HD2 General] JohnQ:
that ROM is sick of tons of BUGS on it. LOL. its a **** ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] raullugo:
I just flashed the Energy ROM 21864 on my ATT Tilt 2 and everything is great except that the keyboard layout is the one from the Touch Pro and the key do not match with the software. Could anyone please help me to get the original TILT 2 Layout back, I'm sure there mast be a way but i don't know how...

Thanks a lot in advance...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Redhead518:
AT&T Keyboard Fix

Here is the cab to fix the at&t keyboard layout for your tilt2. Enjoy!

View attachment 246428
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] raullugo:
Thank you so much! Super fast answer too, thanks really for taking the time, this makes my life way easier...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Redhead518:
AT&T Keyboard Fix

Anytime, Hope it worked for you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] vic16ky:
similar scene with me

i want original keyboard for gene.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dan2pk:
need original HTC AT&T kaiser rom for keyboard

Hey guys still a little new to the forum and having a hard time finding the original HTC 8925 AT&T cabs for the keyboard. I flashed a new rom (Schaps_WM6Pro) to the phone and now the keyboard is all messed up. I also tried the (Tilt keyboard fix.cab) cab but it did not fix the problem. Only a few keys are now working and they are mapped correctly though. Im wondering if it isnt a hardware prob and not software. Only way to find that out would be to flash it with the original at&t rom but love Schaps rom. Thanks guys any help on this would be hugely appreciated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Demonic240:
Have you checked your respective forums? My guess is that they have .cab's listed in those areas for this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dan2pk:
forums

Do u have a link you could possibly post for me, sorry im still slightly the newbie at all this.....thxs in advance
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] sirphunkee:
Don't sweat it dan...we're all new at some point. You were close though, you needed the section for the Tilt, you ended up in the section for the Tilt2. Try here instead:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=376

Good luck!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jesus.odp:
I tried using the cab in the first post and it fixed the keyboard but it removed all my home quick links (running Energy w/ Cookie homepage) . . . anybody got any other suggestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] The Jack of Clubs:
the cab for me always worked. i have noticed theres places where you still get the original touch pro keyboard layout. such as in phone or remote desktop. its nothing you cant figure out around.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dan2pk:
thxs Sirphun that was a lighting answer and i hate to say but im thinking you nailed it. i have'nt had time just yet to sit down for another round of upgrading but i will keep u posted. thxs to all the helpfull people in this forum, its been a great help.