yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] KukurikU:
d-nul Budan, nu am gasit in Romaneste dar:

Rom 1.59.707.0 (48753) WWE, Rom Date 04/17/09. CE OS 5.2.20769 build 20769.1.4.5 Radio 1.13.25.24 Protocol 52.62.25.34U

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Versions

so, you'll have to try this WWE one. :D
[Touch Pro CDMA] imzack:
I dont know if i post in here for help, but that is what i need...

I just flashed my phone to this energy rom

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=536751

and my phone now starts up, says touch pro, then restarts and keeps doing this cycle...

idk what i doing wrong, or if my phone is donezo or what....

someone please help a noob,

thanks

Zack
[Touch Pro CDMA] Crossxcalibur:
This seems to be happening to a few people here and there. You're phone is fine. Just flash to another ROM. The best way to do it because you are stuck in the cycle you are in is to flash from the SD card. Copy and paste this to go to the instructions on how to do it:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=61333

I highly recommend NFSFAN's ROM.
[Touch Pro CDMA] 88fingerslukee:
The ROM you were trying to flash was a GSM ROM. The Forum you are posting in now is the CDMA Forum. If the your phone is indeed CDMA (You are on Bell, Telus, Sprint, Verizon) then you need the CDMA version of the EnergyROM.

Now, if your phone is GSM, then you need to go post over there.
[Touch Pro CDMA] jmy72:
88fingers is correct

This is caused when you put a GSM ROM on a CDMA Phone. I have accidentally done this a couple of times with ROMS that were inproperly documented. Just find a CDMA ROM and reflash your phone, and all of your problems will disappear. The proper way is to actually flash your phone to the Stock ROM. You will probably need to flash from the SD Card as you may not be able to actively sync the phone to the computer to do a flash.
[Touch Pro CDMA] BogusBizzo:
I've done the same thing prob 20 times or so...till I found out that my touch pro is a cdma (if you have an SD card its a cdma)and not a gsm...and is also called a Herman not a raphel to the best of my knowledge so far. As far as re flashing goes I've always done it from the boot screen(hold the power button,volume down,and the soft reset button until the boot screen appears). Once I bring up the boot screen i hook plug into USB and flash. Thats just how I've done it not saying its the best why by any means.
[Touch Pro CDMA] 88fingerslukee:
Let's get this straight boys. ALL TOUCH PROS HAVE A microSD CARD SLOT.

If your phone has a

SIM

card then you have a

GSM

phone. This is known as the Raphael.

If you have no SIM card, then you have a CDMA phone which is known as the Herman.
[Touch Pro CDMA] imzack:
ok guy, that is exactly what i did wrong, i reflashed my phone to a cdma rom, thank you tremendously for your assistance!!!

but when i flashed to a different rom, im having some problems with it freezing up and such, would this be due to the rom, or me going from my mess up to a different rom?

Should i go back to a stock rom like i think someone stated prior?

is that the same as the unlock utility then?

thanks
[Touch Pro CDMA] 88fingerslukee:
The unlock utility is the CID (carrier ID) unlocker (also known as SPL HardSPL, Security Unlocker blah blah blah). It allows you to run unsigned ROMs on your phone. SIM unlocking is something else entirely - it's how you unlock a GSM phone to use on other GSM networks - so it doesn't apply here.

Only a stock ROM will run on a locked phone, hence why you have to unlock it to get all these awesome custom ROMs on there.

I'm not sure why jmy72 said to go to a stock ROM, but I've never done what you have done myself. Maybe it'll reset some things that you might have jarred during your failed GSM ROM load.

Also, you could be doing something else with the ROM you loaded. Or it could be a crappy ROM. Or a whole buncha other things. For the help with that to get any deeper, you need to expound on your "freezing and such" problems. ;)
[Touch Pro CDMA] tlhop911:
you are incorrect about the cdma touch pro being called a Herman .i have a Sprint touch pro and under device info it clearly shows model no. RAPH800 which IS a RAPHEL not a HERMAN
[Touch Pro CDMA] hinds73:
You are correct sir!

Yes it does say Raph, but whenever you are looking for roms make sure that you flash Herman. It can be a little confusing.
[Touch Pro CDMA] marriotheblackguy:
Dude just flash from the SD Card...your stuck in a cycle that never ends, put the rom on your sd card and it will work fine. Just ensure you have CDMA rom for a CDMA phone....for NRG roms they are called Hermans for CDMA.

I have a Sprint TP this is the ROM I used just search PPCGeeks for it: EnergyROM_21864_HERMAN_22.Oct.2009_Standard.rar
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jepehd:
Hi all,

I have been mostly content with M2.1 ROM's due to the increased speed compared to M2.5 but it seems some M2.5 ROM's are now catching up :)

However, I don't find the HTCaction screen function in M2.5. Has it been removed?

Is is possible to add it? How?

I particularly miss an easy way to start/stop Bluetooth and Wifi and add tasks/appointments etc. Are there other good ways of doing this?

BR Jens
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jammysunny:
htcAction

hi jens,are you a german user? ;)

the great problem in manila2.5 is to set it to a softbutton, only energy didthat in his new roms.....

install the htcaction cab, search the htcaction.exe file in windows, copy it windows-startmenu-programs,after that, you can tab an empty quicklist icon, choose programs, and you`ll see it like a prog.....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jpl69:
Latest manila 2.5 (miri 12 include) you can easly map the home rigth soft key through registry to you favourite aplication like you used to do on 2.1
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Semicuda:
You'll find a nice Action Screen in the first post of this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=496631

In order to change the left home softkey, check my signature :)
[G1 Android Development] Nasrat:
Just thought I should bring this up. I have noticed that most of the builds does not support HSDPA which is a faster version of UMTS data networks, (check Wikipedia for more information).

I have first noticed it after flashing KingxKxRom, which is the only Rom - that I have tested - that supports HSDPA. Maxisma, Ccyrowski, Cyanogen, and Enomther Builds do not support it for some reason!!!

Correct me if I’m wrong; Hero, Magic, and the Dream do support it by hardware. So I wonder; where the Ball was dropped ;), or is it just that Kingklick is using a different base for his build, or is it a kernel matter.

This was bothering me for several days and after a lot of research I could not find the reason behind it. I’m not a Rom developer by all means; just thought developers could shed some light about it:confused:.
[G1 Android Development] abdulla1:
This has been discussed previously. HSDPA is actually supported in those ROMs, however the "3G" icon doesn't change when you are connected on a network with HSDPA coverage. I guess this is because HSDPA is just another type of 3G, so its not necessary, its just an indicator of a faster "3G" connection also known as "3.5G".

Hope this helps.

edit: if you get download speeds higher than 384kbps then you are connected on a network with HSDPA support, you can actually test it using a speedtest.net app on the market.
[G1 Android Development] Nasrat:
The issue is not the icon, withier you review the settings>about or use *#*#info#*#* command it clearly state what type of network you are connected to. I have also tested the speed and it does vary.
[G1 Android Development] Unimaginative:
I have no idea how any ROMs would not 'support' HSDPA, as it would depend on what hardware you're using and your carrier's network.

If it makes you feel better CyanogenMod most definitely does as I'm using it right now and I'm on a UMTS network. I think you're confusing the network type with the protocols used to get you your data.
[G1 Android Development] rex05:
I am using CyanogenMod's latest rom and im getting some great speeds on the web 3mb- 5mb download speeds!
[G1 Android Development] Nasrat:
As I understand HSPDA is an upgrade to UMTS, if your hardware and network supports HSPDA you will be connected to it, otherwise you will use UMTS only. That’s why I think it has to do with the kernel used rather than the build itself. It did actually show that HSDPA is used in Kingxkx Rom.

and I did try CyanogenMod's but it does not switch to HSPDA.
[G1 Android Development] Nasrat:
what phone are you using; im using the Dream.
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
If you see the H symbol then you are getting 3g also some states dont get 3g yet or have some crappy service.;)
[G1 Android Development] sino8r:
I can tell you for sure that they all support HSPA. My Touch Pro 2 has a "H" icon and clearly states HSPA (aka HSDPA/HSUPA) network. Right next to it is my G1... which says connected to UMTS w/ the 3G icon. Both test at around 700-1100 kbps download and 200-500kbps upload. Those are clearly HSPA speeds and not UMTS which tops around 400kbps download.

I have used a few ROMs that have the H icon and it makes no difference in speed. It's just for looks.
[G1 Android Development] Ace42:
Some people prefer the 3g icon thouch i think the H looks better on hero roms:p
[G1 Android Development] Nasrat:
Maybe I took the wrong approach in discussing this, although the main use of HSPDA is Data, Telephony could use the protocols as well. I did a small test of not connecting to Data, by deleting the APN for it, or by un-checking the “connect to network” option. It still shows the phone is connected to HSPDA vs UMTS or GSM network!! That is in Kings Rom vs. Other Rom’s. Any Ideas?
[G1 Android Development] Unimaginative:
Well I'd better sue Vodafone then for selling me a phone that supports HSDPA when it doesn't!

On a more serious note, HSPA is a packet access protocol used over a UMTS network for data, not a network type. Just because you're getting the '3G' icon doesn't mean you're not getting HSPA throughput.
[G1 Android Development] Nasrat:
Thanks for your effort so far. Forget the icons "3G" or "H" that’s not my issue. Without connecting to data either; why when I use kings Rom in the setting/about section it shows network type as HSPDA, but when I use any other Rom it shows UMTS. Giving that I didn’t move and in the same place.
[G1 Android Development] Unimaginative:
Ahh, now I get you. That is interesting though. I've only ever got UMTS as my network type but I definitely get HSPA rates so I took it as a given. Was there any correlation between using a certain type of ROM (like Hero vs. AOSP) where the difference appeared? . I remember trying a Hero ROM once and getting the 'H' icon instead of '3G' so maybe it's specific to those. Wish I'd checked Phone Status now...

It's possible kingklick made some form of modification to get the point across in his ROM, or possibly different APN settings he specifically uses. Kind of doubt it though.
[G1 Android Development] Nasrat:
I agree I think it’s something that King did, or it relates to Rom’s based off a phone other than dream, I just flashed back a rooted stock 1.6 ADP DRC83 and it showed me UMTS, so it’s not the fault of the Rom developers I guess:D. I will try to test this further and I wish if king or other developers could further explain it.

Edit: found no correlation to what the Rom is based off; tried a magic, a hero, a dream based Rom’s and they all show UMTS, only Kings Rom show HSPDA, I will try to PM him tomorrow and find out if it’s only a naming thing or if he did something else.
[G1 Android Development] ESKIMOn00b:
I've had several diff roms show hsxpa in the status screen, it just matches the icon (eg replace the build.prop to get h versus 3g icons and you'll see the network type change in status too)

All the first hero builds did it as well as all Haykuro's orig Magic to Dream port
[G1 Android Development] Geniusdog254:
Also a stock Rogers Dream shows HSDPA. Here in the US they dumb things down for us by just calling it 3G or if you're real technical UMTS. However in Europe, Canada, and most of the rest of the developed world it is called what it truly is, HSDPA. When you see UMTS in there that is because it is a broader category. The same way EDGE is just an extension on 2G GSM (EDGE is 2.5G), HSDPA is an extension on the original UMTS 3G system (HSUPA & HSDPA are 3.5G)
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
Plain and simple it does not matter what the phone shows 3g or H if you are in an area with the HSDPA you will have the higher speed data. All HTC androids at least, do have the hardware for it. As far as voice over HSDPA that is not currently enabled yet until the HSDPA is fully up and functional. If you are not getting High speed 3g then you are most likely in an area that does not support it or the connections are maxed out and you are defaulting to the standard 3g network.
[G1 Android Development] roguestatuskat:
very, someone just has to program it
[G1 Android Development] daproy:
The difference is the Radio Interface Library. As far as I know the htc source libraries distinguish HSDPA.

http://www.netmite.com/android/mydroid/development/pdk/docs/telephony.html

system/lib:

libhtc_ril.so

libreference-ril.so

libril.so

You could try pushing HTC sourced RIL libraries to these other builds but the source code isn't available as far as I know.
[G1 Android Development] rex05:
Same! using Dream also, those speeds are on the Tmobile network
[G1 Android Development] keatliang2005:
i get HSPDA on official ROM (singtel), i get UTMS on Cyanogen the speed it's significant slower
[G1 Android Development] Hornet69:
HSDPA is a general term for speeds above 384kb. To get 1.8 or 3.6 or 7.2 etc you need to be able to tick a number of boxes with your phone.

1st is phone catagories:

In 2009 the most common devices are category 6 (3.6 MBit/s) and category 8 (7.2 MBit/s).

2nd is the network you are on. Even though your provider has HSPA (shorter than writing HSDPA and HSUPA) enabled in the network, this is not a given that you will be able to use it. Network parameters can make a big difference to the avalability of these services. These are set by the network and you have no say on them. This is the best effort clause bit of your contract.

3rd is network noise/interference. UMTS is a system that utilises performance at the expense of noise. your phone see's this as a CQI measurment (Cell Quality Indicator), This should be around 22 up to 30 to get good Radio performance.

For example:

Imagine this as 10 bits of data and a CQI scale of 10, if the CQI value is 1, then you have bad radio quality and 9 bits of the 10 bit stream are used as error correction and 1 bit is data. This will be slow performance, on the flip side, great Radio quality and a CQI of 10 equals 0 error correction bits and 10 bits just of data. Equals Fast performance.

So, the Dream supports 3.6 meg HSDPA, even if the little sign shows a 3G or an H is doesn't mean you have 3.6 meg performance and one of the other issues could reduce this. Same goes as you could get 3.6 meg downloads and the icon stays as a 3G.

Hope that helps a little :)
[G1 Android Development] bakgwailo:
BTW - pretty sure the Dream is 7.2MBit/s device.

But that said, I get 1.5MBit/s all the time on a 'UMTS' network with only the 3G logo (no H). It really is just a matter of the semantics chosen by the provider. Same thing came up with the original Haykuro ports, etc, where the other providers chose to do the 'H' logo in addition to the '3G'.
[G1 Android Development] Datblkbro:
Can someone tell me what is the java app for? and do I really need it on my phone.
[G1 Android Development] coredalae:
its set up just fine for that, you'll prob just have to wait for tmo to roll out their network upgrade
[G1 Android Development] reuthermonkey:
Ding ding! We have a winner!

In the US, there's so much marketing hype around 3g, that if a phone listed "H" at the top, no one would know what was going on. 3g is used in the USA as a catch-all term for basic UMTS, as well as the upgrades of HSDPA and HSUPA. In the future, they'll probably even include HSPA+...

In the end, I believe all UMTS towers in the US are HSPA anyways, so in real-world terms, making a distinction between base UMTS and HSPA is sort of useless. Hence why it's all just "3g"
[G1 Android Development] Nasrat:
Sorry I was missed in action, this seems to be the most logical explanation given that it’s brought by one of the community best kernel developers, Thanks Daproy ;):), If someone can push those files and lets us know if the network name change, as it might take me till tomorrow to try it.
[G1 Android Development] Nasrat:
Although this might be true but I doubt it for two reasons; first each carrier will love to take advantage over others, by naming it right the can prove their network is better. The second reason I’m currently outside the US, and still have the Issues;).
[G1 Android Development] Nasrat:
This is what we are trying to find. I.e. the purpose of this thread, right on :D.
[G1 Android Development] ubernicholi:
i pushed these to system/lib there was no change in the about phone/ status menu. maybe another file is required to show the change. or i might not have that great of a signal. :/
[G1 Android Development] canadiancow:
AOSP (i.e., the open source version of Android) does not recognize HSPA as a unique network type for display purposes in the settings menu or the status bar (whereas the version included in the stock ROM for every phone I've looked at does recognize and identify it differently).

However, the phone hardware does know the difference, and you are getting the faster speed if it's available.
[G1 Android Development] adwinp:
Do you have these settings enabled?

rild.libpath=/system/lib/libhtc_ril.so

ro.ril.hep = 1

ro.ril.hsupa.category = 5

ro.ril.hsxpa=1

ro.ril.gprsclass=10
[G1 Android Development] pentace:
I work for the wireless provider offering this service. I can tell you the devices are all capable of the service it is hardware related. If you read my previous response on page 1 you will see reasons why it wont be working if u are in a service area for this. ALL Android device thus far released by t-mobile are HSDPA equipped. I run the current SenseHero and even know i do not see the icon my device still gets the correct download speeds in any network area i test. I have also tested on all previous hero builds that are up to date and all work dine on HSDPA for mt3g Moto and Dream
[G1 Android Development] mdafabe:
Just confirm what you said, using King's rom under settings ->about phone-> Status I see HSDPA under Network type. When I was using Cyan's and Emoth's Roms it said UMTS.

I am in Southern California and getting the speeds I should be getting with all Roms. Just because king's Rom labels it HSDPA and Cyan/Emoth has UMTS, they are both on the same network, so what is different?

Just like the H/3g icon on the home screen, when you look under network type, the ROM is hard coded to read HSDPA for Kings and UMTS for the Cyan/Emoth when it is in the correct coverage. Try this, go to mobile networks and move it to 2g networks. When you go back to network type it will show edge. The point is there is nothing special if it says HSDPA or UMTS under network type, it is just telling you what the ROM sees as the high speed network. The proof is would be in your download speeds. If they are all the same across the Rom's you tested, then the network isn't any different.

For the US people, hope this rolls out in the near future.

http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-7-2mbps-hspa-hath-cometh/

When this happens I am sure the ROM's will be able to give some indication that we are connected to the higher tier speeds.

Feel free to disagree as I do not work for HTC or any mobile carriers. But it makes sense to me :)
[G1 Android Development] prince.siraj:
definitely looks better on hero roms. unless you have manup's theme :D then that looks better than the H. but yeah since T-Mobile's working on HSPA+ you can forget about them keeping HSDPA... they'll upgrade their networks after speed is at least caught up or close to catching up to the other carriers lol. nationwide 3G is close, then MAJOR speed upgrades :D so by 2011/2012 you can expect to have right on maximum consumer DSL speeds :D
[G1 Android Development] ytwytw:
Hi

I am in Canada with Rogers(Providing HSPA+)

For the original ROM displaying H

the uploading speed is much FASTER then the CM's rom which display 3G on the status bar

and i used the 3gtest, which u can find it in Market

the HSUPA is not enabled in CM's release(the upload speed is only 30kb/s)

with the Rogers origional rom i can get 120kb/s for uploading

so what does this mean?!

there must be sth wrong in all those builds, and the issues are unknown!
[G1 Android Development] vicboy:
A test from Movistar - Spain

Hi,

just took the test with CM4.2.5, with the 3G Icon and the Status on Settings telling UMTS. The Speedtest.net app tells that DL speed is above 1400kbps, and upload is over 380. Ping is 270.

I have HBOOT 1.33-2005 and the 3.22.20.17 Radio, just as it came from the last official update (where they updated the SPL and the Radio, that were different, not perfected and "without" HSDPA icon with their rom).

Before updating, with the 2.22 radio, I never got that results, so in my case I think it's something "radio-related".

Just to tell my experience:)=
[G1 Android Development] jubeh:
When this thread first popped, I paid no heed to it, it was a simple icon issue, I thought. But I was just working on a Hero rom based on 2.73.405.61, and I SWEAR I saw the icon change from E to 3G, then I went to my living room and it changed to H, then I went back to the bedroom and the icon went back to E and then 3G... it only did it that one time and I haven't been able to replicate. I think there might be something to this...
[G1 Android Development] jorobochi:
I have tray this

Go to the "Phone Setting"

entered into the dialer *#*#4636#*#*

-> Phone Information

and by the Network Type i have see only UMTS and GPRS

By the Set prefered network type i have "WCDMA prefered"
[G1 Android Development] jaymn88:
what are the best settings when using *#*#4636#*#* also would the apn setting be different from epc.tmobile.com for hsdpa
[G1 Android Development] IronWolve:
I just tried the "Nonsense" 1.5 rom, and it supports the H hsdpa indicator.

Anyone know if anything about downloading or using this indicator in other roms? Just think its cool to actually see when I'm getting the better service.

Thanks!
[G1 Android Development] carz12:
Wow, you guys, it really is just the icon.

adb pull /system/framework/framework-res.apk

open it up, the icons aren't there, on rogers roms and some european roms it is, it's just a marketing thing, you can change the icons to whatever you want you know.

Anyone remember april fools day and 4g :D
[G1 Android Development] IronWolve:
Dont think its just an icon, the thing does 3g, then does H for awhile.

I'm down the street from the t-mobile HQ in factoria wa, so I should be getting the best coverage on tmo.
[G1 Android Development] RogerPodacter:
well i have a nexus one, but i just flashed cyanogen 5.0.7 and now i no longer have HSUPA upload speeds. my upload is capped at 384Kbps. but my download is fine at 2Mbps.

when i flash bac to my stock ROM, my upload speeds immediately jump back up to 1.4Mbps. so it seems some ROMS have HSUPA disabled, and i cant figure out why.
[G1 Android Development] nsa666:
add /replace

ro.ril.hep=1

ro.ril.hsxpa=2

ro.ril.gprsclass=12

ro.ril.hsdpa.category=8

ro.ril.hsupa.category = 5

to build.prop . that should restore speeds
[HTC Startrek] phoneturf:
Hi -

I am new to this phone - a little late to the party. I have used the SPB phone suite on PPCs and really like one feature in particular - the profile manager which allows you to set a bluetooth profile along with the voice parameters. Is there anything similar for smartphones, or at least a way to turn bluetooth on and off from the home screen?