yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] appel_:
I did do research, but no reviews I found mentioned that the HTC Hero has less features than standard Android in some areas. Everyone focused on what was added. So I naively thought that I could simply not use any added stuff by HTC that I don't like or find useful and get a nice full-featured Android phone.

Hopefully the future Android 2.0 update for HTC Hero will improve things.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Alex~:
Waste of time on HTCs part? No. It's nice to use and looks good!

I think people are just a bit impatient and are slightly concerned over future updates more than anything. It concerns me a bit as well, whilst the Hero is currently one of the more recent phones and HTC will want to keep it updated - what happens in the long term future regarding Hero updates?

Android is getting a lot of good press recently, I'm just slightly concerned at the slow updates causing even more fragmentation. Each Android device is obviously going to be slightly different with the hardware, but if operating system versions are going to differ on handsets then I'm sure problems will occur.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] FormelLMS:
With rosie, we could make our own themes for that.

Look at our themes section here at xda-dev.

Without that you must buy a home replacement and with it, the Hero is slower as it is with SenseUI.

And: Much of the HTC Widgets are pretty cool.

If you want the original Android Look and feel, you've bought the wrong mobilephone.....
[Hero, G2 Touch General] slovoflud:
I see the concern, but when HTC leaves us we can always go Custom
[Hero, G2 Touch General] gatogringo:
Can someone explain to me why Android 2.0 doesn't work on the Hero (and other android phones)?

But why will it work further down the road? I am confused.
[Touch 3G General] alex.gribbin:
Hi

Since Tiscali have turned off automatic DNS settings on their broadband service there is no way of connecting my Jade to the internet via Wi-Fi. I've tried using a app called wifiprofiles which lets you enter dns and ip etc but still no luck, is there another way round the problem?

Alex
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Terrorhuhn:
Dear Community.

I've one question...

HTC has a lot of Android phones in their product line...

Magic, Hero, Tatoo

But what is the big difference between them?

I only know that Hero and Tatoo have little bit more Ram and an other UI.

But is it worth to buy a Tatoo in stead of an Magic?

thanks

Terrorhuhn
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] shoemeistah:
I'm not an expert of testing different phones. But here's my short review anyway. There are no huge differences, though the Hero doesn't upgrade to OS 1.6 yet.

I'll start with the Magic.

The Magic has two version, the 32B and 32A.

To summarize that, the 32A is a little "faster" can load more apps and used OS 1.5 but now upgraded to 1.6. Big disadvantages are having no 3.5 mm jack for audio, bad camera and multimedia support.

The Hero has the nice Sense UI (Rosie) but might have little lag on homescreen once you put more applications on it etc.. One of the neat things is the fingerprint-resistant coating so you don't have to clean it over and over like the Magic.

The Tattoo runs 1.6 and is much like Hero because of the Sense UI and it is much faster with booting. The design fits better in one hand because it's more round shaped. Disadvantage is the smaller screen.

You can modify any of these phones to your taste. But I think HTC has done a great job with Tattoo. The Dream & Magic are also good phones, but if you plan not to mod the phone I'd say Tattoo.

Just my opinion with some facts. The choice is up to you.

All Android phones are cool.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] smurf:
i could live with the small screen as a pocket suitable phone but the screen of the tattoo is only a resistive screen instead of a capacitive screen. Which is a big disadvantage.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] phil_white99:
What about the TMobile MyTouch 3G?

Where does the TMobile MyTouch 3G fit in with all of that?

And why does the description on this board only say "also known as HTC Magic" but not "also known as TMobile MyTouch 3G"?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Terrorhuhn:
Thanks for reply.

I would flash roms to my phone, so the UI differences are not so importand for me...

But when I do a comparison between... Hero and Magic (Magic has a Rom with Sense ui)

Am I right if I say they are then very similar??

greets
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] shoemeistah:
Well, if you get a T-Mobile MyTouch 3G or some models from Vodafone also means you'll get PVT32B version with 192MB ram. And that isn't really good enough for a HTC Hero Rom. It would eventually lag (slow down) even with swap. PVT32A has 288MB ram FYI. There are pretty good Roms for this one, but from my experience with using Android phones I've never had problems with android 1.6 donut and 2.0 eclair. You can modify them a lot to make it look like the Sense UI if you really want to. Or ofcourse just get the HTC Hero...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Anartic:
I thought HTC already released an update to fix any lag on the phone.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] pack:
The mt3g is the same

the reason it say also known as the magic is because that is the real name of htc's phone

they use sapphire because thats what its called in the coding

the mt3g is just what tmobile decided to call it because they seem to be the only one's with a contract to switch htc's names (htc now wants to brand themselves so we'll see how much longer that last)...

the difference in the names really doesnt matter... it come down to what type of board you have 32a/32b
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] shoemeistah:
Yes that might be.

I'm not that up to date with the Hero, I heard people have had problems with it and not sure if that's fixed by now, that's why I said 'might'.

Other than that what about the motorola droid, that looks good, all metal casing.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] phil_white99:
Radio differences

pack: Thanks for the reply!

I suppose there are radio differences too since there seems to be a lot of variation in how carriers handle 3G, at least in terms of frequencies used. TMobile and AT&T in the US do 3G differently and it seems that carriers in Europe and Asia have other ways. I don't know, though, if each 3G carrier's version of the Sapphire has an internal name at HTC for differentiation.

It would be great, though, if HTC started coming out with phones that had radios capable of being used on any GSM network, including data at 3G speeds, because everyone I know in the US with a 3G phone that was unlocked and moved from TMobile to AT&T, or vice versa, has to live with 2G data speeds on the other network. Is this the case in Europe too when switching between carriers or moving between countries? Or has 3G data been standardized there?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Taknarosh:
I would not recommend the Tattoo simply based on it's resistive screen.

The HTC Hero is the best Android offering so far from HTC. If you can get your hands on a HTC Magic 32A version it's just about identical hardware-wise to an HTC Hero.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] schwags:
The sound seems to be a lot lower through my headphones than with my previous phone (Raphael). It seems to be unaffected by ROM as it happened on stock AT&T ROM and a custom ROM as well. Anyone else notice this? It seems to be loud enough, but i do have to crank volume settings quite high where before with my Fuze I would never even make it past 30% or so.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pistou:
Don't know if this helps, but I've found that the type of headphone is important. Using not-so-great earplugs I found the sound to be quite low, but using HTC or Nike earplugs or some fairly expensive headphones, the sound was great (stock ATT ROM).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] schwags:
That is helpful, I guess I can't really blame the hardware, it's brand new, I don't think there is an issue there. However I am using the stock HTC headphones. Maybe I need some better ones.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pistou:
hmm, i would think that stock HTC phones should do the trick -- but certainly try others and see if it makes a difference before fiddling with the device
[HTC Excalibur] makagsm:
some help me with sspl 1.11 for my excalibur 100
[HTC Excalibur] orb3000:
Have a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=537151
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
I will clean this rom up a little (it's good, but it could be better) and try to get something out in the next few days. I am also testing a new download service, so I would also like some feedback comparing this one to the old one.

My work is free for everyone's use, but if you feel compelled to give a donation towards my work (I am a full-time college student working on this in what little spare time I have), my paypal e-mail is "toa649@myway.com"
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Spawn24fr:
thanks Steven

I test this in my A696 and i tell why

see you later
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
*bump* (for those who haven't seen this yet)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gazpefoc:
I can't download

Hi, sorry to bother you, but maybe you can put it somewhere else? I cannot download, it says that the offer is not available in my country...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bmasephol:
Steve - can you upload to a different file sharing site... this one i can't download from without paying or entering in some peronsal info. Maybe you can start a torrent that way we can all seed it to help get it out to people without too much trouble.

I'll test out this ROM then. Hope you havent given up on 6.5.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] darky_mtp:
You can download it here.

Edit : Link removed.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] esver:
As he said :

Steven855, can you explain how and with wich tools you work ? Or can you release a kitchen to help us to make translated rom ;) (It's for the french one)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] darky_mtp:
Folg : Oups ! I removed the link.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] esver:
No pb ;) I think he want to make some money, we can download freely and he is paid for his work.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
You don't HAVE to put in your REAL information to get to the download. You can also keep refreshing the offers until you can find one that you can skip.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
It has just been brought to my attention that Windows Marketplace 2.0 has just been released. Everything should still work (and get updated) with no problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bmasephol:
Well I have tried but have been unsuccessful at getting the download by skipping or entering bogus information into the download site. I spent at least 30 mins messing around with it and have spent 29 more mins than I should have. I'd love to help test the new rom but I'd rather spend those 30 mins testing the rom than trying to get some stupid download site to work.

Steve if you want money I'll send you some :)

I said way back when that I'm making a donation to the 6.5 or 6.5.1 rom

creator when it is released.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
I promise that if enough people tell me they hate the new download site (I did say I was testing a new download source and I wanted feedback, thanks), I will move it to a new server.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bmasephol:
I didn't mean to be too negative... wasn't having the best day at work. I finally got it to download, hint to others when the lightbox popup is up keep an eye on the title across the top of it, if you skip enough ads it will eventually change to a continue here link and allow you to download.

Steve - keep up the good work! I'll flash tomorrow and report back with my test results.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] russ_bear:
hi, it's me again. damn, but i live in a Russia and can't download from this share. Steven, would you be so kind to download it to another site? Maybe rapidshare or something like that? You could pass an archive and give pass only in private messages or sumthin' like that...:confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] frblckstr1:
I get a 'offer not available in your country' followed after a few seconds by it jumping to a face-book login page??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
that should not make a difference (the download service said you can still download the file if you get the "offer not available in your country" error), you might need to keep refreshing (or skipping) until you get it
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] frblckstr1:
The 'offer not available' is presented in a kind of popup but without a skip option (only a 'X').

The facebook page is a full page thing, no skip button either.

I have tried several times at different times of the day, I always end up on that face-book login page (I find that strange I would expect it to jump back)

I'll try a few more times.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] russ_bear:
damn, am i ignored? ))

well, i have tried the new rom, but (I think) I've got some problems with step 6. While holding enter and power button I saw a blue screen constanly appearing and dissapearing. So I double tapped the soft reset and... nothing! blue screen continued to appear and dissapear...question: what i'm doing wronG? i've got asus a696:confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bmasephol:
I flashed last night and have been using it during the day today. No issues so far. I'll post back if I run into any problems.

I used the AImg.exe and USBFlash process instead of the SD card because I didn't have an SD card handy.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lord_dizzy:
Please Steven, another download link please...

I can't go further even in this step (both Firefox + IE)

Thanx!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Soupe:
Tried around 100 times cant dowload!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] piep12345:
Use this proxy 94.23.208.154:3128 and Firefox to download the rom. Worked for me. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lord_dizzy:
Worked allright

Worked #1st try, thank you piep12345!

Now let's test it and will come back with feedback this weekend.

Have a good day everyone!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lord_dizzy:
Earlier feedback #1:

On menu Settings -> Personal -> Sound & Notifications -> Notifications, I can't select any event. The menu is scrambled there...

Looking good by now overall and I see some tiny free memory avail now as well.

Internet Explorer, Office & WMP works OK. IE has flash support as I can see now...

BTW: File Dialog Changer - It's a great addon (I didn't know of its existence before)

PS: Rotating screen is WAY faster than in 6.0!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
Crap! Thanks for catching this for me. Seeing as some parts to make this rom were taken from phone roms, I (sadly) might not be able to fix this one, but I promise I will see what I can do.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DKnight110:
Works OK on A696

Hi,

The image flashes just fine on the device (A696), after changing the two bits in the image header (at offset 0xC, you must change 0x09 0x04 to 0x36 0xD6 - thanks go to _barmaley for the post here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4860396&postcount=78 ).

Some observations:

1) In Internet Explorer, there is a strange mouse-like cursor appearing; it can be moved using the directional buttons; it also seems to corrupt the image underneath, but only for the primary position in which it appears (not much of a problem, I don't use Internet Explorer anyway). It disappears once you tap the screen

2) As lord_dizzy was mentioning, indeed the "Notifications" menu is scrambled: no events are available (all the combo-boxes are empty)

After updated, the version in "System information" states:

ROM Version: V03.0735.00 WWE 0409

IPL Version: V08270700

Other than the two minor annoyances above, I want to thank you very much for your hard work in delivering this ROM release and I'm looking forward for your 6.5 release :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vita-lick:
can anybody upload to Rapidshare?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mozakca:
it will be great if reachable for everyone... Great job steven... :rolleyes:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
I'm going home for Thanksgiving break tomorrow after I'm done with work. I'll get something in place while I'm home (with my development computer).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lord_dizzy:
Well then, happy Thanksgiving!

And we're gladly waiting for any of your news to come...

As a little (more) feedback I have to add that Remote Desktop Mobile has more options in this ROM than original WM6 from ASUS, which is good.

Indeed IE is a bit slower because of menus graphics (the older one had flat menus) + flashes (maybe is there a tweak or registry edit to turn off that mouse cursor which corrupts the image underneath it and that problem be gone, as DKnight110 reported).

C ya!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bmasephol:
Have a good break Steven. Looking forward to any updates on 6.5.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
I hate integrated graphics cards (I would get it fixed if I wasn't waiting for my paycheck on Monday)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the 2nd time that work hasn't gotten done due to a blasted graphics problem!!!!!!!!!! All went well until I got to my xip-porting program to fix the startup files froze. Luckily, i have backups so I can work on something this week. For all those who were wishing for a WM6.5 rom at the end of break, I am sorry for not having a new build ready (I would have had something ready if it wern't for the blasted graphics problem).

note: after this coming weekend, my response to your support queries will greatly decrease until Dec. 19; reason is because dead week is next week, and I need to allocate as much time as I can to studyihg for finals, and my last day of finals is Dec. 18
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bd73:
Hello, link for download the firmware don`t work. I have asus a696. i want to change firmware. my asus a696 have CE OS 5.2.1239 (Build 17746.0.2.4) Thank you very much! (email adress is dbutca@yahoo.com)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pawo99:
I have ASUS A696.This ROM is working :-)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Soupe:
A696 WM6.1 v1

Hi I have still not been able to download v2.

However a slight problem with v1 on my A696 is the SD card sometimes needs to be reinserted as it stops reading. I had never experienced this with WM6.

Thanks Steven & good luck with your finals!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
UPDATE: FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!! I have just gotten a windows mobile 6.5 rom to boot! I will test it over the weekend and probably post something on Sunday or Monday (even so, my note about dead week and finals week still applies).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Xmixas:
Thanks Steven. WM 6.1 works perfectly. Waiting for WM6.5.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
UPDATE: The performance on this first rom is horrendous (many things don't work like they should, and this is why I am not going to release this rom just yet). At this point I don't, have much time for improving the rom until Dec. 19. Think of it as a Christmas present at this point.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bmasephol:
Good to hear progress is being made.

Hope finals go well and we'll be waiting to hear from you over break.

Happy holidays for all that it applies to!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rathor:
About: Asus Mypal A6x6 WM6.1 rom version 2 (11-12-09)

Here's a MIRROR to the ROM file written by Steven:

[update]: link removed...I'm waiting Steven approval vis-a-vis mirror... stand by...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
I thought I said to ASK ME about mirrors!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rathor:
Sorry, link removed.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
Update: During a break from studying for finals, I was able to make a voip rom (sorry everyone, no WM6.5 development until I get home on Saturday night, I don't have much time so I have to modify what already works), so a voip rom is coming soon.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bmasephol:
Bumping this back up.

Steve had a chance to play anymore with the ROMs for the 6x6 lately?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
During my time trying to make a rom for WM6.5, my A626 got bricked (to the point where I can't flash it with a backup), and now I have to send it back to Asus to get it repaired. The worst thing is that it happened on Christmas Eve. I might not get it back from Asus before I go back to college after Martin Luther King Day weekend. However, I am getting a new laptop that I will be using for development, so I won't have to rely on my desktop at home anymore.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
My biggest problem with making WM6.5 roms is trying to make it "fit" inside the size of the 6x6 rom image. It seems that I cannot make the roms anymore without sacrificing some aspects like (for example) Office. I really don't want to sacrifice anything big like that, but do what I must do. To keep those aspects still available, I'm designing something similar to what the package manager in linux does. I do have the packages for WM6.5 ready, but I need a working A626 in order to test it.

One other thing I have to work on is the new memory scheme in WM6.5, and getting it to work on the 6x6. For more information on this, please see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544445, and scroll down to post #2.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] alaska99:
Hi Steven do you have WM6.1 rom in french please?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Soupe:
Hi Steven

Sorry to hear of your A6*6 bricking - occupational hazard I suppose.

Good luck with getting it fixed & thanks again for what you have done so far!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
Actually, it's been fixed, and I'm waiting for its package to come back to me at college. Meanwhile, the new development laptop that i ordered won't be delivered until February.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
Good news! I have finally gotten my A626 back from Asus, and I can start making roms again! Things will be slow until when my new laptop is delivered in February. After that, expect development to accelerate (until now, I have been using my home desktop and various school computers for rom development, it will be good to have a computer that I can call my own for development).

Update: After some analysis, there might be a problem with the A626 that Asus sent back. If this is true, then it might unfortunately be a few days until I am able to start rom development again (but will definitely begin when I get my new laptop in February).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MrNice_:
Hi Steven855,

First thank you very much for your job...

Finally, I would like to create a rom based on your job with french language...

Could you please give me the step required to do that as well as the software required (to create the rom and used in the rom).

Thank you very much.

MrNice_
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Steven855:
I've been wanting to make a non-English rom (currently working on a German rom for someone, but production has been slowed by my A626 getting bricked and having to jump from computer to do my rom work). I promise a kitchen will be coming out soon. If enough people don't care about written instruction and really want the kitchen, I will release it sooner. The big thing is trying to write instructions for the process (I know there are people who are willing to do the homework for learning about rom development, but I'm concerned about the ones that can't or don't want to do the homework). Part of the problem with trying to make a non-English rom is getting all the parts for it. WM6.1 XIP and SYS parts for non-English roms are hard to come by these days. WM6.5 ones are available, but I have to change the format to make it work in my kitchen. The WM6.5 XIP and SYS parts come in a format for Ervius's visual kitchen, but Visual Kitchen doesn't work for the A6x6 roms (believe me, I've tried it already).