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[HD2 General] ijob:
I reckon the weekend for the camera hotfix, I would really love both by the weekend, well....tomorrow would be great but wishful thinking!
[HD2 General] utvol06:
!

AT&T forgot to activate my text messaging plan when i switched over from my iphone to the HD2. So far my SMS is working, I will post here if I experience any delays or send/receive failures. Hopefully a fix will be out soon.

I love the screen size and opera experience on this thing! Yes the iPhone is kick ass at music and itunes, but each has their pros and cons.
[HD2 General] Ben86:
Hey,

not sure if someone already told you (didnt read all pages) but just contact htc. they will send you a cab which you install. it saves all yout sms requests in a log file what you can send to htc. so you can support the htc support :D
[HD2 General] kao123:
I received my HD2 on the 17th of last month and up until yesterday I had no issues with SMS, I noticed I was not getting any replies to my texts, I checked the out box and there they all were sitting there all nicely queued up with nowhere to go.

After having a read of this thread I set my phone to GSM Preferred and I also disabled HSDPA/HSUPA so I am now only connecting to the 3G network.

As soon as I changed these settings and rebooted my Phone all the messages went on their merry way.

I have sent about 15 texts in the past hour and a half and so far they have all sent properly and I have received replies to all of them.

I am on O2 in ireland and I have no tweaks of reg fixes on my phone yet.

Can some one else try this and see if it sorts out the SMS issue for them, I'm hoping this isn't just a fluke on my part.
[HD2 General] weareborg:
From a HTC rep yesterday:

New Response From [ Matthew (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]

We do not have a current time frame for this update. I will keep you updated with any progress.
[HD2 General] bommel0815:
new response today from a HTC Germany rep: they know, collect data, and a patch is coming soon :)
[HD2 General] Mithrandir007:
Have you guys tried the new official HD2 shipped ROM ? (version 1.48).

It looks like it's faster and also fixing quite a few problems (calendar bug, signal problems, ...), so maybe it'll also correct the sms problem.

Here is the link : http://htcpedia.com/news/official-htc-hd2-rom-update.html

I'm still on version 1.43 though I didn't have the problem yet (but I'm not a heavy sms user).

I can't say for sure that there aren't any sms I didn't receive though.

I hope this helps..
[HD2 General] bommel0815:
as soon as the german version arrives I will try it :)
[HD2 General] bommel0815:
yep, that worked. better no 3G than no SMS, and I like the integration HTC Messaging provides.
[HD2 General] zepfur:
The HD2 was available in Singapore 6 days ago and the ROM version is 1.48.707.2 (71294) WWE, and I had the same sms problem.

Whatever HTC is releasing, I hope is something newer and sms problem fixed.
[HD2 General] mightymn:
could you tell us your windows and senseUI build numbers ?
[HD2 General] mobile88:
I have been experimenting with the SMS issue. I have found out that there is a bug in the htc manila messaging. But the problem of SMS not sent, stuck in outbox was not 100 %. Sometimes it is sent successfully

So to have peace of mind, I no longer send SMS /reply SMS directly from the homescreen interface. Instead - I select : All Messages/Menu and from here I send new SMS . For SMS recieve, I open it and from Menu/Reply or Forward

Until HTC resolve this with a hotfix, I feel is best solution

I have also notice many complaints about the bugs in this forum and I notice these mainly from the rom version 1.43####. Now that ver 1.48## is available for non Asian sets, maybe should consider upgrade to assess whether any improvement

Beside this "irritating" SMS issue, I am perfectly happy with all the software/functions of the phone. I have replace the keyboard with SpB Keyboard v4 which is perfect as inbuilt keyboard I find too sensitive

By the way Mine is Asian set and my software:

Rom: 1.48.707.2 ( 71294)WWE

Manila: 2.5.19211619.0

OS: 5.2.21869
[HD2 General] rinobed:
My (BAD!!!) experience so far

...

Voda IT

128 k Sim

1.43 ROM

Unable to send many msgs, delivery report at lest warns you, normally a soft reset would fix the issue for a while.

Loosing some (few) incoming messages

Not tried the disable3G "fix"

1.48 ROM

ABSOLUTELY WORST!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unable to send many more msgs, delivery report at lest warns you, a soft reset would NOT fix the issue for a while as with 1.43.

Loosing some (more) incoming messages

Tried the disable3G "fix": sending apparemtly works (I am getting back all the delievry reports) I am still loosing incoming messages for suree! (trying back and forth with my wife after several calls"..what are you doing?? Not answwering my msgs!!!!..."

In both cases (1.43 and 1.48) disabling the HTC msgs interface did not help!

I am afraid we do not have a real stable workaround, we are stuck in htc hands! Why are they taking so long??????????

PS: I had many WinMo HTC previously and this is the first time I am having such issues
[HD2 General] Shockwave Pyrotechnics:
I have the issue now after 2 weeks with phone.... Sim Free phone using O2 sim.

A Few Tweaks applied, ROM 1.43.405.1 WWE

I've also e-mailed their support, but no response as yet!
[HD2 General] brooon:
Oh dear, this really sucks. I havn´t known that until i´ve seen this thread. Now i´ve tested it with my friend to find out if my device is affected too and...dammit...it is.

This really, really sucks.
[HD2 General] zepfur:
OS: 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)

Manila: 2.5.19211619.0

ROM: 1.48.707.2 (71294) WWE

ROM Date: 11/09/09

Radio: 2.05.51.05.2
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
I wonder why it's worse for some people than others.

I know I had this problem a while ago but after changing the settings to use 'GSM Only' in the advanced SMS settings I've not have the problem again. I've been sending and receiving lots of text, making calls, using wifi, everything.

A friend of mine with the HD2 hasn't ever experienced it.

Maybe it's another problem that you've not worked out because it certainly isn't constant among everyone :confused:

Maybe I'll have to eat my hat later on when it starts to happen again :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
everything about that is newer than my 1.43, all 5 fields!
[HD2 General] edved:
My "unit" seems to be working fine again after a soft-reboot. That said, I'm currently downloading the WWE 1.48 ROM update.
[HD2 General] Isadora:
Touch wood but so far I've had no problems sending sms - I've set up the "GSM only" option the second I got the phone. Haven't used wifi yet as a friend started having problems with his messages after using it, no idea if it's pure coincidence or not. Im on the 1.43 WWE rom
[HD2 General] edved:
invalid vendor ID

Title says it all. I tried installing the new ROM and I saw the instructions to get around this error message, but it seems like a bit too much of a hassle. I'll wait until its posted on the HTC site!
[HD2 General] bommel0815:
I just received a message from HTC Support that the 1.48 patch will be officially available for German devices soon, but the SMS Message Problem is being looked at and escalated.
[HD2 General] rinobed:
Htc update

they suggested me by phone to do the following:

\Settings[menu - All Settings]\connections\Advanced Network, under the SMS tab set it to GSM only.

Tried one hour ago, until know 100% of delivery reports (touching wood) with band settings in the phone back to Auto/Auto.

Hope this helps
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
doesnt work, its been suggested about 6 times in this thread
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
Doesn't seem to work you mean :rolleyes: It worked ok for me so far
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
i mean it doenst work for a lot of the other people who have also responded in this 28 pages thread which i've read all of....

if it didnt work for just me, i would have said that
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
It just seems strange (read suspicious;)) that it seemed to work for some people and not others. That suggests to me that some of the people either didn't follow the instructions correctly or may have other factors on their phones that are affecting this.

If there is a chance it'll work for this fella like it has for me then I say we suggest people try it. :D

If you're one of the ones it didn't work for then we need to keep working on a solution for you but we may as well encourage people to try what seems to work for some.
[HD2 General] abonoor:
I'm experiencing exactly the same problems in Saudi Arabia (STC Saudi Telecom) i think the problem is the HTC messaging programme.. which I can't get rid of.. I tried so many caps to disable HTC messaging but with no use at all.. can anybody help us on how to retrieve Windows messaging programme
[HD2 General] sunking101:
I have LOADS of SMS sitting in my outbox, how do I purge it, how do I send those stuck in my outbox??

Damn this phone!!
[HD2 General] zepfur:
At one time after I soft reset and the sms-es were still stuck in Outbox, i decided to delete sms-es til there were about 100 left, then the sms-es were sent.

Another time after I soft reset, it was still stuck but i did not delete any sms yet... instead I wrote a new sms and sent, subsequently all sms in Outbox were sent.

Erratic behaviour :cool:

I did try setting SMS Service to GSM and it didn't work as well, my HD2 came with 1.48 ROM (Singapore).
[HD2 General] sunking101:
Yes, I did a soft reset and they were still there. As you say though, sending a new text will usually purge them. :)
[HD2 General] ift:
Change Your SIM Card To new less one Year

I call to HTC, They told me to change my SIM to new less one yaer. Call to my operator and change. Problem with SMS disapear.
[HD2 General] awtchan:
From Hong Kong: My HD2 has the presumably most update stock ROM WWE Asia (OS version 21869.5.0.82) out of the box. Without tweaks of any kind, SMS seems operating flawlessly. In fact I just tested that this morning back and forth with my Omnia II and found no problems thus far.

Perhaps it's worth consider updating your ROM from XDA's Leo Official ROMs page.
[HD2 General] davesyd:
i upgraded from 1.43 to 1.48 two days ago and have been receiving all sms' okay. :)
[HD2 General] ijob:
me too [touching eveything made of wood].
[HD2 General] gus8511q:
can you tell me how to upgrade my firm to 1.48;
[HD2 General] msmadros:
sms

I have tries the GSM option instead of the GSM preferred. It worked first time when I send a new sms. A day later, same old problem of sms piling in the outbox. So, it is definitely not the final solution. Then I tried the MS messaging by removing HTC messaging using cab mentioned earlier in this forum with 3.5.NET. So far it is working fine. BUT this solution is kind of ugly since your HTC sms tab isn't functioning fully.

I guess you just have to wait for HTC for the fix really. sucks big time this one!
[HD2 General] msmadros:
sms

And BTW I am on 1.48, using in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
[HD2 General] rinobed:
So far, so good!

Apparently I am not loosing incoming messages, had to do a couple of SR because delivery report were not coming back.

(I am sending messages to myself and sometimes my new jewel is able to mess up this too!!!)
[HD2 General] nadderf:
talked to HTC again today and asked when they will fix it. He's only answer was that they collected all information and they working on a Hotfix.
[HD2 General] Archer:
It seems to be sending okay for me, but it was nearly 3 weeks from purchase before the problem started before, so I'll keep an eye on it and my fingers crossed!

It would be really, REALLY nice if there was a list of changes for this ROM release. Is there one?
[HD2 General] rinobed:
Apparently none of the workarounds (even the hugliest!) are really working for all and are 100% reliable.

Disabling the HTC messaging did not working for me but it is working for somebody else... going through the thread I did not identify a real pattern, am I wrong?

How can we push HTC to a faster fix? I call their support yesterday, they seemed very relaxed about the issue!
[HD2 General] rinobed:
didn't find any, the ROM until yesterday night was not even posted on HTC support site yet, I have it since two days and the only impression I got is that it is smoother and typing is better than before.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Yeah, I'm getting the impression that this is just tweaks, rather than actual fixes. I'm in the UK, and the ROM isn't even on the HTC website for us yet!
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
My reply from HTC

Here's my reply just received from HTC:

Dear Eddie Thank you for your enquiry about HTC HD2 We're aware of the issue and we've just recently finished gathering data from our customers which we have now forwarded to our main office for them to investigate further and come up with a solution. For now I can only suggest you keep an eye on htc.com as when there's an update available fro your device you'll be able to download it from there. If these steps have not helped, please let me know by responding using the link provided and I will be happy to check again for you. Best regards, Customer support team HTC Corp. Global Service Division http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx"
[HD2 General] Starfury:
I had this problem the first time I flashed my Kaiser to a Window Mobile 6.5 build. It did seem to resolve itself after a few restarts.

It seems to have cropped up again with the HD2, so I am going with a WinMo65 issue.
[HD2 General] kavish:
Zenyees disable HTC messaging cab

I also disabled HTC Messaging with Zenyees cab.. My problems also started afterwards.. I don't hear anyone else talking about this cab..

But at this point the only thing that is reliable for me is disabling senses, soft reset, and my text message service is reliable again.. But of course this is just a workarround.. I hope there will be a fix soon.. :(
[HD2 General] Shockwave Pyrotechnics:
The response I had from HTC support today said a hotfix will be released within 2 weeks! Whether that's because I was pushing them or not I don't know, but I don't reckon it's going to be anytime soon:mad:
[HD2 General] fgth90:
Orange France

I've got my HD2 from 2 days and it seems that I have to face exactly the same problem.

I was using SMS-Chat on my older phone and installed it on my HD2.

Nothing more to say about SMS.
[HD2 General] LAW2009:
Phone Contacts causing SMS bug in Leo??

I'm not sure whether has this been mentioned in the forum..but this was what I have experienced just now on my HD2.

Its regarding the SMS bug. I was using SIM contacts instead of Phone contacts since Day 1(yesterday), all my 40++ In/Out SMS works 100% fine. I then start to active sync all my contacts from Outlook over to my phone. Immediately after that, i tried sending a test SMS out and found out that its sitting in my outbox. Sent a few more test SMS out but all failed.

After which, i start to delete all my Phone contacts (which was dam tedious :mad: ) as i suspect this was the cause (since it was the only change before and after) and leaving only my SIM card contacts untouched. Did a soft reset and started to test the SMS again. All (10++) worked fine! :eek: I can send and receive without any issues. :confused:

All this is done without disabling HTC messaging. Has anyone experienced this before??? It seem that if i uses only SIM contacts, there wont be any issues..but of course, i wont be able to display all my handsome and beautiful frenz' photos :cool:

Can someone else having this bug try it and let us know...:D :P
[HD2 General] Dahawk:
Same situation as above. :)
[HD2 General] mox123:
not having this issue at all, ive read the entire forum, ive been testing my sms today, however one thing i did notice was my youtube app volume key went funny and instead of using the volume button it was scrolling the movie back/forwards,

and i have been switching back and forth from gsm to 3g etc. to save battery but now im just leaving it on auto mode, also ive changed it to gsm only just in case

ive not really started using my hd2 for texting much, to be honest ive not really used it at all, so i will keep texting back/forwards to see if it breaks or not, but i find it quite worrying that alot of people are having this issue, i will keep a close eye on this
[HD2 General] sunking101:
I only use SIM contacts, haven't copied any to my phone and I still experiemce random SMS problems. Some days everything is fine, other days SMS get 'lost' totally (both incoming and outcoming) and sometimes outgoing ones pile-up in my outbox. Totally random.
[HD2 General] tsttse:
sunking101, the incoming ones that get lost, what will happen to them? Will you eventually get them after a reset or will they disappear into the oblivion?
[HD2 General] alan1467:
Mine started to do this today after 2 weeks with no probelm but I have only used it in my home area,today I travelled 90 miles away and had the probelm until I restarted and the same when I got home, if I switch off then back on it's ok again
[HD2 General] sunking101:
There are some SMS I have sent that people claim never to have received, this is some 2-3 days later. Missing incoming ones seems to be more rare but it has happened....and they never turn up.
[HD2 General] Zhuk86:
Had this today, god it is annoying as I rely heavily on SMS for my communications, basically makes the entire phone worthless!
[HD2 General] Thuggie:
It had been working fine for at least a week before it suddenly started happening to me again today :(
[HD2 General] myth1001:
I'm facing some problems with my messaging as well. My friend receive the text message 2days after i sent it!! I wonder what is causing this.. basic function such as messaging is also screwed up. I'm really disappointed with this device. =(
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
Yeah i can confirm the incoming ones simply vanish, never to be seen again.

this is terribly bad publicity for HTC since i have had to warn all of my friends that my PoS HTC phone cant even do SMS reliably so if they dont hear back from me, they have to call me. so thats 100+ people who now know that HTC builds unreliable phones - just from me.
[HD2 General] bqwd36:
in China CMCC has same issue.

read all the threads i'v got a conclusion about the solution

1.change the sim card

2.change from GSM prefer to GSM only in sms service setting

3.remove the htc message

4.someone said about battery issue
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
ive done 1 2 & 3 - it still wont work reliably for me
[HD2 General] SOLRAC13:
HTC HD2 sms message Bug

We are 18 days from Christmas if HTC don't solve this issue they will louse a lot of money and customers for sure. :mad:
[HD2 General] mox123:
is there an answer from htc yet, im getting really pissed off reading about this, just dreading for it to happen to me
[HD2 General] sharpey:
sure i read somewhere that turning off HSDPA or 3G solved it and that HTC are working on a fix
[HD2 General] mox123:
i only use hsdpa/3g for when im downloading, otherwise i put it straight into 2g mode, maybe this is why i havent experienced it yet,

i still cant go on like this though, i really need those arseholes to make a fix
[HD2 General] wibberly:
Oh well. Back to the trusty HTC Hero.

Have three sms's sitting in my outbox. One was very important. They refuse to send. This is on the Orange network in the UK.
[HD2 General] Mad_Martin:
well, it happened to me once.

then i changed back to old and fast MS messaging app, pocket outlook and since then, it works flawlessly. and did i mention fast? ;)
[HD2 General] cyberde:
It seemed to be a Vodafone issue since they had that free sms weekend as compensation for their f*cked up service last couple of weeks.

It took more than 26 hours for my texts to arrive. All seems OK now.
[HD2 General] eddie_wakey:
just as a side note on this, when my messages dont send, which is about once a day, my windows live hotmail wont synch either, brings up 3 synch errors, reset device, send a text, the ones in outbox send and live will synch again.....
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
I just had a text take about 36 hours to arrive at it's recipients inbox. The strange thing is that all others have been going and coming fine all weekend. It seems to have just been one that got lost somewhere on Saturday night and only showed up this lunchtime. :confused:

Strange
[HD2 General] RobvT:
Same here )-; Very irritating......that they can mess up such a great phone/
[HD2 General] erosennin:
I send lots of sms daily, and in 3 weeks using the phone, never experienced this. Sure it's not a network problem?

What is your preferred SMS over? I set mine on GSM
[HD2 General] leetenough:
i preferred GSM since the first day with my hd2

But today i had this f***ing Problem. Windows live mail didn't work eighter -> softreset and the problem was "solved"

this bug makes me crazy. if i send some important sms and they don't arrive -> brings me in a lot of troubles, believe me :D
[HD2 General] ijob:
Please hurry HTC, Sony Ericsson have just released their updates for the Satio etc.

This plus the camera bug are driving me nuts!
[HD2 General] erosennin:
:D

Yeah, we're riding the same wavelength, it seems. But seriously, I never experienced this problem. Could it be different ROM versions? My ROM is 1.43.405.1 (70124)WWE
[HD2 General] erosennin:
It seems you're not a SEX1 user. SE made a real F*ck up with the X1. The same thing with the Satio, and the X2 is going to be another flop. After 3 official updates the X1, was worse than dog crap, so hold your horses on the Satio.
[HD2 General] SOLRAC13:
HTC HD2 sms message Bug

WAKE UP :mad:
[HD2 General] leetenough:
1.43.407.2

thats my romversion @erosennin
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
@erosennin

already covered in depth in this thread is setting it to GSM preferred or GSM only - basically changes nothing

new sim cards dont fix it (mine is only a month old)

and its not a network problem as its been replicated from the UK to the middle east to australia

it just HTC selling sub-standard goods
[HD2 General] porterpelle:
same problem 4 me

Hi

Same problem 4 me with sms in sweden with tele2

Usa same card as in X1 and never had any problems before

/cheers
[HD2 General] _tangent:
I haven't experienced this bug yet, but i see it as sort of inevitable, so i'm hoping a fix will be forthcoming soon.

I have a quick question about it though, for those unfortunate users who're having problems. As far as you know - and i appreciate it is quite hard to know when you're NOT getting messages - does the receiving problem appear to be related to the "message stuck in outbox" circumstance? That is to say, do you only NOT get messages when there are messages "stuck" in your outbox?

I've gotten into the habit of checking on the outbox after every message i send, just to make sure it finds it's way into sent items. I also have delivery reports turned on. I'm hoping in this way, that i can at least resolve the bug via a soft reset/deletion of outbox/sending of new message if it does occur, before any incoming messages get "blocked."
[HD2 General] nadderf:
Does anyone heard from HTC ? i want the hotfix now !
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
Previously they asked me to install the logging software on my phone last week.

yesterday i have asked my contact for an update as to when they expect the fix, i will update here as soon as i hear back from him.
[HD2 General] Cocytus:
Just got a response from HTC

And the response is boilerplate "soon", with no specific schedule. :mad: