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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
Hello everyone,

I'm having a problem with the RCD 510 Premium Bluetooth kit that is installed on the new VW Scirocco and its been troubling me for over 2 months now.

When I first got my Scirocco the Bluetooth connection was working fine (for 3-4 months). One day out of a sudden the Touch Pro II was not pairing anymore with the car's bluetooth kit.

At the time I was using Windows Mobile 6.1 that originally came along with the phone. I tried the basics - deleting the connection, re-pairing - with no success.

So I gave a shot at phone's factory reset - still no luck. The phone is recognized when I use the "Device Search" function on the car, it prompts me to enter the pass code provided, I do so, the phone loses the GSM signal (which of course is normal) but then suddenly I get a message on the RCD510's main screen "No bluetooth connection to phone" that lasts for about 2 seconds.

Since the problem began, I tried factory reset the phone (as I mentioned before), and tried pairing before installing even a single software, still no luck.

I tried multiple ROM's in the meanwhile (I mean third-party ROMs from this forum) and now I am using the official Windows Mobile 6.5 from HTC for my phone.

I also did many tests using third-party applications for the rSAP protocol (JetWare hands-free extension, SAPSettings, some patches and drivers found around the net here and there) even though there is native support for rSAP since the first firmware that came along with the device.

As I mentioned before, the phone was pairing fine the first 3-4 months.

Please note that this phone uses the Widcomm Bluetooth Stack - not the Microsoft one.

Any help/ideas would be greatly appreciated.

PS: I apologize for the big length of the post, but I believe the more the information I provide, the more the chances to get proper help :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SH4YD33:
Sorry i cant help you but.. I want your CAR... :D

Any pics?

Well.. try this

Unhook the cars battery. Let it reset the radio (make sure you have the radio code if any) and try again.. maybe the radio is holding some sort of setting. Resetting to default (like with the device) might do the trick..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
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:) Thanks for the idea. I'm kind of worried though plugging out the battery, because there are many settings besides the radio that probably will be lost if I do so.

You know all these new cars and their complicated electronic sensors...I don't mind losing minor settings for the car that I have adjusted, my main concern is that if anything goes wrong, I will probably have issues with the car's warranty. I still have 2 and a half years of warranty.

I' will probably have a talk with the dealership before doing that.

Many thanks for your thought though :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] looking-g:
hi i like to know if pairing went okay with the 6.1 rom because if so maybe when you switch back to this rom problems are solved
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
Nop :(

Unfortunately no :(

It was one of the first things I tried. Switching back to the official 6.1 ROM. I actually kept it saved on my hard disk and I tried it a couple of times - I mean when I tried other ROMs from time to time - hoping it would resolve the issue.

And that's the strange of this case. I mean, it was working (pairing) fine the first couple 3-4 months when I unboxed the phone, and then out of a sudden, no pairing.

First logical thought would be that something has changed in the car's settings. But I have an Athena X7500 that pairs fine with the car up to this day. My car's dealership isn't much of a help...

Second thought - phone settings mess-up. But as stated in my original post, no factory reset helped, no switching to other ROMs, no playing around with settings.....

I'm really desperate. I'm thinking to switch to another phone, but besides this problem I'm quite satisfied with the TP2. And I do "need" Windows Mobile based phones, because I sync with Thunderbird's Lightning via BirdieSync for a long time now, and I am not willing to revert back to the horror days of MS Outlook. I carry my TB profile for over 2 years now and its customized the way it suits me for manipulating my 10+ email accounts.

Thank you very much for your reply though :)

Any other thoughts/recommendations?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] looking-g:
i downloaded firmware 1.20 from volkswagen hope this will help me will try tomorrow with my laptop i am with a touch adapter connected to rns 510 no pairing with tp 2 at the moment for me the only workable solution is a duo sim with my old blackberry bold meanwhile i love he TP2 so hope i can get it to pair with my premium touch adapter volkswagen carkit any other suggestion or solutions are very welcome cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] looking-g:
And that's the strange of this case. I mean, it was working (pairing) fine the first couple 3-4 months when I unboxed the phone, and then out of a sudden, no pairing.

what radio where you on first couple of months
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
Nice thought about the radio....but unfortunately I don't remember.

Currently I am using v4.49.25.17 that was upgraded with the latest official HTC firmware of WinMo 6.5 if I am not mistaken.

I am 90% positive though that the problem started before even upgrading, back when I was using the first release of WinMo 6.1 and the unknown version of radio, and everything was working ok at the beginning.

I know, I am not helpful at all :) but frankly, this problem surprises me as much as you.

You mentioned a firmware upgrade - for the RNS right? Not the RCD....

Do you by any chance happen to know if there is a firmware upgrade for the RCD510 and where can I get it from?

Thanks for your help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
looking-g:

I just realized that you are having a problem with the RNS.

Did you had this all along? I mean, did you ever managed to get it working and then it stopped, or you never had it paired?

I am just asking to see if I can be of any help...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] looking-g:
well the problem is not with the rns 510 but with the touch adapter which come delivered as premium carkit i use to pair everything with it blackberry,s nokia,s and also a touch dual (niki) without any problem but now with my new phone the tp2 its not pairing it also never did after i fill in the pincode it gives an error message it should connect with the touch adapter my car by the way is a golf gti mk6 cheers, mark
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
You kind of lost me there.

What do you mean "touch adapter"? Is this a component of the RNS 510? Because I have never heard of it...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] marcqui:
Have you determined a solution?

I just picked up a new VW Jetta with premium bluetooth and it worked the first time and not since.....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] 3waygeek:
You guys are scaring me -- I have an Audi A3 TDI scheduled for delivery in January, and it'd be a bummer if its Bluetooth didn't work. FWIW, my current car has a Sony MEX-BT3700U headunit and the Tilt 2 pairs with it in both handsfree & A2DP modes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
3waygeek: You will be probably fine. I think Audi does not have anything to do with Nokia regarding building their units.

Wish you best luck with that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
Extra info

Some more information regarding the whole subject:

I found out that when I press the "Emergency Call" option on the touch screen of the RCD510 (i.e. try to call the international emergency number - 112) and then immediately end that emergency call, the next time I try to pair the Touch Pro 2, it does pair!!! But it has no signal at all, and if you try to make a call you get a "Dial up error" (or something like that, can't remember exactly)!

Any ideas what could be the reason for that?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jimllfixit:
Your problem is common to VW/Audi's. Chances are the car kits have the rSAP Bluetooth unit. I had exactly the same issue in my A6 using rSAP, as soon as i upgraded to wm 6.5 the problem went away.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
Yes, indeed the car kit uses the rSAP profile, as well as the Phonebook Access Protocol (PBAP), but both of these protocols are supported by the TP2. Actually the rSAP functionality I believe is support in Windows Mobile 6.1 and above - I mean besides the fact that your phone's BT radio must support it in order to work correctly. (Without being entirely sure for the above comment).

And some more info for those who are willing to give an opinion:

I did eventually decided to remove the car's battery. I left the car without battery for approximately 40 minutes. Now here's the strange part: All the settings of the card indeed reset (window settings, light settings, etc) BUT the RCD510 was not affected at all by the battery removal! Yes, as weird as it might sound, the station list was there, bass/tremble customizations were there also, everything in place (regarding the radio unit always).

Side note for all those who might remove the battery from a similar VW car:

As soon as I plugged the battery back on, I had somewhere 15+ warning indicators on my dashboard turned on. From ABS malfunctions, air pressure, EPS malfunctions etc. But after rolling the car for 3m or so everything turned off. Back to normal. Probably had something to do with the electronic sensors giving proper signal to the car's "brain". Just my opinion.

Now, besides that - the fact that removing the battery didn't perform a reset of the radio (RCD510) unit, I also tried reverting my Touch Pro II to a WM 6.1 cooked ROM - don't remember which one exactly - but that didn't helped either. Same stupid error message after pairing for 2 secs: "No bluetooth connection to mobile phone".

And to confirm again: My X7500 (Athena) with a cooked WM6.1 ROM from michy still pairs and works fine. (Tested it last night, just to make sure that battery removal didn't had any side-effects)

PLEASE help me if you can. Any suggestion/recommendation will be greatly appreciated.

PS: I decided to contact the car's dealership to inform them about the whole problem. I will post soon regarding how that went...

Thanks for your time everyone...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
By the way, does anyone knows the proper way to reset the RCD 510 to it's factory default settings? Besides the function that is given inside the menu itself - I already tried that. I was just wondering if there was a "hidden" way that will entirely wipe all settings/customizations from the unit....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Sirocco06:
Hi guys! I m in the same situation: Sirocco + TP2 with 6.5 from Orange. Any progress from your side? Ideas would be greatly appreciated!! Cheers, P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
:) Unfortunately!

No friend, sorry. No news yet.

I do keep the post open hoping that someone will give me a new year's present :)

It's nice to know that I am not alone though :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
Still no luck! :(

After having a conversation with the dealership, they said that they cannot help me since the TP2 in not included in VW's list with compatible phones (didn't expect nothing more to be honest).

The guy that I talked to recommended that I removed the battery once again and leave it a bit longer.

Did that yesterday: Left the car without a battery for almost 2 days. The STUPID RCD510 did not reset! There must be an internal battery or something!

I know I have asked this before, but does anyone knows a way to HARD reset the RCD510? Besides the "Factory Reset" option in the menu - that one only resets the radio part - bluetooth settings and profiles are left intact.

Or even better - a firmware upgrade. For the RCD though, not the RNS.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
Conclusion

As weird as this may sound, I did manage to find the "source" of the problem (but unfortunately not the reason nor the solution). I came to the conclusion that my Touch Pro2 does not connect with the unit when I am using the SIM card of my specific GSM provider. When I use a SIM from any other provider everything works ok. And also when I use the SIM of this specific provider in any other RSAP compatible phone it works ok. So in a nutshell: Touch Pro2 + MTN (in Cyprus at least) = failure. Hope this saves someone some time.

Thank you everyone for trying to help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] 3waygeek:
Interesting news about the SIM. I finally got my Audi A3 yesterday -- it has the Concert II+ headunit (roughly similar to the RCD 510) and Audi's bluetooth module. I was able to pair my Tilt2 to it with no problems, and the phone book transfer worked flawlessly, using a standard AT&T SIM that I've had for several years, with no contacts stored in the SIM.

I was able to make a call using the steering wheel controls to select the phonebook entry, and the voice on both ends sounded great -- you'd be hard pressed to tell it's a BT connection.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MD323:
Wow

Dude we cant get the new Scirocco over here!!! post a pic!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] manowar666:
:) Will do. Give me a few days so I can get my hands on a good camera.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MD323:
haha dude use youre Touch Pro2!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] clickqass:
Bold 9700 and HTC HD2 won't connect

I'm pretty much in the same boat. I had a blackberry storm and it initially didn't work. The device would pair but the phonebook wouldn't transfer. Once i changed the SIM card to a newer version from the provider everything worked perfectly. But now i have replaced the Storm with the Bold 9700. It just paired and then disconnected(using the same SIM). I have also picked up the HTC HD2 using another SIM. The phone pairs up but never connects after that.

I have a Scirocco 2.0 and will attach a pic for all the fans :)
[Touch 3G General] devil270975:
What is a clone? whats all this t3232 and stuff, i'm getting a HTC Touch 3g tomorrow from orange and not sure what its gonna be??? so i can start preparing to Re-ROM it
[Touch 3G General] ronp76:
If I understand the HTC subdivisions correctly, Orange is an official offshoot or flavor. For example, my Jade Clone cost about half the price of a HTC T3232. Since you probably bought your licensed product, I would bet you paid a pretty dollar or euro.

If I could offer you some advice, take it slow on what you to your HTC phone. Install only software titles you get very good recommendations and vibes on that will do no harm to your phone.

The worst thing you could do is be in a hurry and turn your phone into a fancy brick by incorrectly flashing it.
[Shift General] Mrmarc:
See thread title.

Does somebody has an idea. I can use the help.

Normal win7 installation. Updated with latest marvell wifi drivers, however rolling back to old drivers or reinstalling shagcontrol do not work. anyone ?
[Shift General] Mrmarc:
Never mind ... sigh.:(

Strangely cygwin wouldn't install too. :mad:

So I reinstalled win 7. Now, I immediately installed cygwin with hsect2: just in case shagctrl won't work again. :cool:

Shame is I couldn't find the cause of my problem.
[Touch CDMA General] silex:
This might be asking a bit much from the dev's, but is there any way to including compatibility for the DIAM500 (Sprint Touch Diamond) and RAPH800 (Sprint Touch Diamond Pro)? I would think the Vogue would provide a good base starting point for the Diamond since it's the same chipset, but in addition it would need Wi-Fi, g-sensor, and higher resolution. Still what has been done so far here would be a good base platform to build from.

I have been contributing to the Diamond thread and would be working closely with the devs here to ensure there isn't anymore repeat work being done between the ports. I own a DIAM500 so I can test any ROM and kernel updates closely with you guys.

The CDMA Diamond has been lagging behind the GSM greatly. Help me bring it at least up to Vogue levels! Where we currently stand on CDMA builds is located at Connect-UTB.
[Touch CDMA General] gleng:
I have a cdma diamond as well, and as much as I wish there was a magic fix, I don't think the vogue port is our answer to getting android working on the diam500. The hardware isn't the same, and much work has been done already in porting to the diam100 etc, so I think we just need some good developers to iron out the kinks and get the diam500 working with that port as well.

I don't know if this thread is going to get moved back into the diamond subforum, but regardless, a thread like this might serve as a good starting off point for diam500 users/developers, since we are such a small subset of the diamond user base.

Zenulator, who i believe is/was a dev for the vogue made an offer to help with the diam500 port if he could get his hands on a diam500, so that may be one lead we have.

MrPippy made progress before. He got the cdma radio initialized (voice + text messaging), and fixed the colour issues we have by using mtype 2040. Whether using this mtype is the correct method in the long run, I don't know. But he has gotten farther than most of us.

Using semi-recent builds with their included (not specially compiled for diam500) kernels, I have been able to get android to run on my diam500, albeit without any radio support and with incorrect colours. However, 3d acceleration was working, which never worked in previous builds. I don't think we are really that far off; we just need to fix a few somewhat major problems to get us a lot closer to where the gsm guys are.

I have a spare laptop I've set up with ubuntu and the tools necessary to compile the linux kernel, so I would be happy to help with testing or anything else that would help this project.
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
1.) please don't post Diamond stuff in the Vogue forum, remember this is more than just a vogue android forum, there's regular vogue users here as well.

2.) Hit me up privately and I'll see if I can help.
[Touch CDMA General] zenulator:
I have one thing to say about connect-utb and diamond and raphael. I was offered a cdma diamond but turned it down. Most of those packages up at connect-utb are my xrom/donut builds and the basefiles from vogue-android with exception of the diamond/raphael specific kernels and startup.txt. So I'm not going to do any work on thats side. Frankly it's irritating when you go to a site and see "New donut package by ......" and I look inside and it's one of my donut builds. Same build.prop and everything. Still set for qvga. With no credit to me or the hard work at vogue-android. I talked to one of the guys that put out a diamond/raphael package and he gave credit afterwards but the next thing I see is another package with a different name and a different donut build of mine. So if thats how they deal with the work of others then they are on their own. I try to give credit each and every chance I have. Even if it's an edit of one line in a file. I've repeatedly pm'd Edvard about this and I get no response. I don't think I'm being unreasonable I just want credit to go to the right people and not to some guy that zips together a bundle of other peoples work.
[Touch CDMA General] mssmison:
So true and sooo frustrating when that happens,
[Touch CDMA General] aven_soulgazer:
I've even seen Zen turn down donations and tells people to send them off to the ones that started before him and gives them credit time and time again. I think he downplays a lot of his own work.
[Touch CDMA General] silex:
Yeah zen is definitely not your typical dev. I'm sorry he feels this way, but it is warranted. I was hoping to mainly strike up a conversation on if it was possible to use a Vogue build as a basis to build a Diamond. But it sounds more feasible to get a good dev on board to help us iron out the remaining issues.

Gleng did a very good job laying out where we currently stand. I sent both him and mssmison a PM. We'll see where it goes from here!
[Palm Treo 750] mrweeee:
Ive searched around but haven't found anything on this...

is there any way to install windows mobile 6.5 on my sprint treo 755p?
[Touch HD General] unionjaks:
hello,

in contacts i am no longer able to add further information ie birthdays etc. All i have is the name and number...there are no input boxes for any other information.

Steve.
[General Topics] ignorance587:
What if you wrote a program where you register an anchor point than were able to adjust and rotate pics based on that anchor point. I have no idea how to make it but I had the thought when I was dreaming of multi-touch on my tp2
[General Topics] ignorance587:
no? not a good idea. hmm... i thought it sounded interesting
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] excelsion:
I wanted to know do all G1 hero roms have to reload the home screen when ever you open the keyboard?

Thanks in advance!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheUriel:
Yes, i think its do to the fact that the actual phone doesn't do the slant mode thing.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
Reason #37 why Hero should die...

"slant mode thing" meaning rorating to landscape? :P

Yeah I think it's all of them. I think drizzy said that one of his ROMs would have removed, but you know what he's like...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheUriel:
Lol , yeah what Adrian said xD!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] excelsion:
oh that sucks hero roms are hot, but having to reload just to open keyboard is a huge no
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheUriel:
How about closing keyboard b4 going home ?

example : Im always using Hello AIM i use the keyboard to type w.e close it then i go home. I never get load that way.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
Just don't open the keyboard on the home screen, not that big a deal...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] excelsion:
^^^lol ill try that gonna take some time to adjust
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdrianK:
Easier said than done for me. I used Hero for a few months, and used to use the terminal quite a lot. I just couldn't get in to the habbit of closing the keybaord first :P
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PsychoPomp:
You will only have a problem if you open the keyboard while on 1 of the 7 homescreens not when opening in browser, messages etc....
[HD2 General] AndyGarton:
Anybody know how please?
[HD2 General] appelflap:
You can change the text in the registry:

hkey_local_machine / Software / HTC / Manila / Home / x / DispName

(0 =< x < 9)
[HD2 General] AndyGarton:
Excellent, thanks.
[HD2 General] TheRealBnold:
Ok, figured out to rename...but how to remove the text?

Something to do with this: (0 =< x < 9)?
[HD2 General] Syphon Filter:
nah, he's just referring to the fact that by default the home tab only has 9 slots for quicklinks and they are referenced 0-8.
[HD2 General] TheRealBnold:
Thanks ;) I was affraid it was so... Seems to me that theres no solution :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] r34p3rex:
I've tried out 2 roms now (EnergyROM "Leo" 10/28 using HTC messenger) and now Valkyrie firestorm 4.7 using the stock WinMo messenger and my phone constantly freezes after i click on a text to open it. It just gets stuck at "loading message" and I have to remove the battery to reset it. DOes anyone have a fix for this?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] joshkoss:
its conflicting with somthing your installing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] r34p3rex:
It appears to only happen after I've opened the text in landscape mode, any ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SlimJ87D:
I am having similar problems. My phone lags and sometimes I have to leave it for 5 minutes for it to calm down.

I think it has to do with the text messages being in the windows mobile and HTC home screen, there are two programs handling our text messages and they get confused with each other.