yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] pietrucci:
Unfortunately SPB Screenshot doesn't capture the square so I draw it myself. The first picture is without the square, the second with. You can tap the square with your finger and them move it up/down (also left/right for the horizontal scrollbar).
[HD2 General] Looking Glass:
Should you make the numbers of pixels per inch..... and really, I would rather admire your eyesight if you are able to sort a single pixel out (other than a dead one)

My 19" desktop monitor running at 1280 x 1024 is much at the limit of my eyes, and you are guessing at a 30% less pixel counting on a 75% smaller screeen?

Regards.
[HD2 General] CanEpia:
Sorry to keep beating the topic, but could do you a test where WiFi is on but leaving the phone pretty idle? I think a couple of other people were curious about this also.

For example, most of my older WM phones would die within 8 hours with no use if WiFi was on (but screen was off). If I was to actually use the phone also there would be no way I could make it through a day... whereas my HTC Magic with android could last 2 days in a similar state and my Nokia N800 can do over a week while maintaining a Wifi connection! so with moderate usage those devices could last me well through the day and constantly be available for push email, Instant messaging and VoIP connections. This is the type of scenario I'm very interested in and I'd appreciate if you could provide any insight.

edit: Just as a side note, all the above mentioned devices would last approximately the same 4-6 hours if actually used constantly browsing web via WiFi, so the big difference is the handling of WiFi in standby.
[HD2 General] bemymonkey:
I would also LOVE to know more about this - it's actually the make-or-break point for the HD2 vs. the N900 right now, IMO...
[HD2 General] Dr.Sid:
I started thread about non-square pixels here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=582931

I think it might be show stopper for me, could you please review the issue ?
[HD2 General] ozzydezilk:
I put all GPS preferences on automatic.

Google works fine, TTN7 wont get a fix. Should i use the internal GPS option or "another GPS device" option in TTN?

Thanks

Oscar
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Camera results are in:

HTC Touch HD normal light => http://twitpic.com/p5hra

HTC HD2 normal light => http://twitpic.com/p5hu4

HTC Touch HD dark room => http://twitpic.com/p5hxa

HTC HD2 dark room => http://twitpic.com/p5ihm

HTC HD2 dark room with flash => http://twitpic.com/p5iry
[HD2 General] KB24@CL:
^thanks a bunch bro...altho still far away from "great" it seems like its a huge improvement over Touch HD...
[HD2 General] DocteurN:
Waouh, yes big improvement from Touch HD. Thanks ;)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
The Touch HD did have the Topaz camm app.

Works a bit better than the stock camera...
[HD2 General] br3nt:
hey xmoo, got a couple of questions for you:

1. when you first got the device, how did you charge it?

(did you play with it till battery died, or did you charge it 24 hours first, etc)

2. about how many times have you recharged battery to max since you got it?

(maybe you just keep it plugged in at work/school, if so, you don't have to answer this question... pretty hard to answer)

think ill be getting mine on friday, so I wanna have good battery time as you ;)
[HD2 General] zolom:
iGo8

Did anyone try iGO8 (8.3.x)?

Is multitouch zooming of maps operational?

Does it have the same configuration as that of the HD?

Thanks for sharing
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Pictures edited!!

Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 => http://twitpic.com/p7ig7

Apple IPhone 3G => http://twitpic.com/p7ih8

Eten Glofiish x500 => http://twitpic.com/p7iiv

HTC Hero => http://twitpic.com/p7ier

HTC TyTN II => http://twitpic.com/p3t2f

Apple IPhone 3G - Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 - HTC HD2 - HTC Hero - Eten Glofiish x500 => http://twitpic.com/p7iku
[HD2 General] mrkyo:
hello xmoo

just a quick question but it's important with me.

Do Leo have multitouch in IE? And which feature it doesn't support multitouch?

Thank so much!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Navigation

Nav N Go iGO 8 (8.3.1.57021) *In this build pinch to zoom does not work! sys.txt

TomTom 7 (7.9.10)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Multi touch works almost on 90% of the stock app.

On IE it does NOT work.

They were not allowed to do that (or something like that)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
TMC did not work Nav N Go iGO 8 (8.3.1.57021).
[HD2 General] mrkyo:
oop..really?

Sry I'm too surprise..'coz we are going to buy it with a lot of people and some information on internet some time they show it has some time not..we just make sure and need someone to confrim it.

This video it shows IE can work multitouch..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FntFBQDjek

Anyway thank for your answering.

Best regards!
[HD2 General] kao123:
Hi xmoo, this is a great thread, you are really pulling out all the stops in showing us what the HD2 can do, can you let me know how fast the camera works, how long does it take to actually take a picture from when you press on screen button.

Is it noticeably faster than the HD which is quite slow?

Thanks in advance
[HD2 General] xmoo:
As I said, on the beta roms a lot was availble.

But in the retail rom they took a lot of things out.

Only zoom working in IE is double tap and the zoom slider of IE
[HD2 General] xmoo:
It is a lot faster than the HD, Topaz, Rhodium camera.

Also taking a pic takes 2 sec instead of the old 5+sec.
[HD2 General] kao123:
Thanks for that, the fact that the camera is much faster might actually make it useable:)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Yes the phone this time is almost 90% useable.

Only problem is the speaker, if that was a bit louder and good quality it would have been greate!
[HD2 General] bemymonkey:
Do you still have to hold the camera still for a second or two _after_ having pressed the button to take the picture?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
No usualy you see the preview in 1 sec.

Goes very fast!
[HD2 General] kai_:
Has anyone been able to test if call recording works yet?
[HD2 General] bemymonkey:
Cool, thank you.

I still have a question about the WiFi (posted it a few pages back but you may have just missed it :o): Did you change the setting for keeping the WiFi on when the device is in standby? Or did you leave it so that the WiFi stays on always?

If I get the HD2 I'd like to leave WiFi on permanently, so I want to know if your battery test results from the first page were with WiFi on or off in standby :)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Wifi is stock abled to stay conencted in standby mode.

I never use my wifi, got a good 3G/H connection.

So if you enable WIFI in commmangr and go to staby, the connection will remane.

Helpdesk closed for now. Got a examen in an hour or so.

Back after that.
[HD2 General] bemymonkey:
Ah, so your testing was pretty much with WiFi off. OK, thank you for clearing that up, and good luck on the exam!
[HD2 General] refaat_ashi:
Dear xmoo,

Do you mean the internal (In call speaker) OR the external speaker? if the later, what about the in-call spaker ?is it similar to HTC DIAMOND?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Never had a Diamond, but in call is a bit better than the HTC HD.

I'm talking about external speaker.

Thx 4 support all!
[HD2 General] wilbur:
hey xmoo - can you confirm something I thought i saw in a video review - when you have new email messages, if you flick though the emails in the TouchFlo screen, does this register them as read, or do you actually have to go into the underlying WM6.5 inbox for the "new email" notifications to go away?
[HD2 General] br3nt:
:)

got a couple of questions for you:

1. when you first got the device, how did you charge it?

(did you play with it till battery died, or did you charge it 24 hours first, etc)

2. about how many times have you recharged battery to max since you got it?

(maybe you just keep it plugged in at work/school, if so, you don't have to answer this question... pretty hard to answer)

think ill be getting mine on friday, so I wanna have good battery time as you ;)
[HD2 General] poceh:
They didn't get registered ad "Read", you have to click on them to go to the full screen preview and there it gets that status.

In manila the number of unread messages stays the same.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
1. Played with it for 3/4 hours (from 45% to 10%), then put it in charge till it got 100%.

2. Only @ nights while going to sleep. Other wise no charge (Usualy I synced it with my laptop, but a.t.m. only have one usb cable :P)
[HD2 General] Zepiii:
Thank you for the camera test ! But it's bit poor, i mean, we don't have a lot of picture.

What is your point of view about it?

Is the camera of the HD2 really better ?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
YES!!!!!!!
[HD2 General] Zepiii:
Thank you !!! ;)
[HD2 General] davidguate:
br3nt: Where are you going to buy it?
[HD2 General] br3nt:
I ordered it from expansys.se

hope their delivery date stays true (tomorrow) .. had some problems with payment, so I really hope they can ship me one atleast before next week ;)
[HD2 General] davidguate:
I ordered it from katshing but im the n.71 in the list so im litle afraid to get it later , but lets see may be they ordered 100 or att least 72 hehe.

Are they coming in english? even in sweden?
[HD2 General] jackleung:
Thanks for testing it. What a pitty that TMC works on HD1 and X1 doesn't work on HD2
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Not yet, altho I think I had seen a option in the dailer.
[HD2 General] DocteurN:
Could be great if an option exists !

I'm anxious to know ! :D Thanks !
[HD2 General] D.O.C:
There is no option to record while making call or in dialer, we will just have to wait for custom ROM or install a cab that enables it, I think I saw on the forums a while ago.
[HD2 General] br3nt:
the ones from eXpansys are WWE (worldwide english) and therefore available before some other (i.e SE)

in sweden they should be swedish :p
[HD2 General] mskip:
If someone with an HD2 can install the 2_Way_Plus_InCall_Recording cab I made a long time ago *HERE* then we can see if 2 way recording is possible on a stock rom. If it works then it will enable the record option in the dialer menu after a call has been established.

The original thread is *HERE* and I know it worked on the HD aswell as many other phones. Its only registry changes so it wont mess anything up.
[HD2 General] DeeTee73:
I have applied the registry keys and tested - it does work but the other end of the conversation was very quiet and grainy ....

It may be that the other end was very quiet anyway - I only called my own voicemail (at work) and I don't think the voicemail recording is very loud to begin with .... more testing required.
[HD2 General] mskip:
Try installing a trial of resco audio recorder *HERE*, goto actions, tools, filters, enable the gain control and set it to 5-full. It should boost your incoming record levels to a very acceptable level.

With resco audio recorder you can also set it to record all calls automatically by going to actions, options, general, phone, automatically record phone calls.

I would test it by calling your customer support number which should have a normal clear voice.

Then post your results :)

Are you doing this on a HD2 as your sig says you have an HD :p
[HD2 General] DeeTee73:
A quick Update:

1. Signature Updated :)

2. Called T-Mobile Customer Serv to give me a clear line to record - very quiet still so it wasn't my dodgy work v.mail announcement that was too quiet.

3. I will try resco for you later ..
[HD2 General] ez2remember:
The HD2 comes with a wired headset and I've heard there are playback controls. Can anyone please let me what playback controls are available. This is one thing that annoyed me with the original HD you couldn't control your music through a wired headset.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=580781
[HD2 General] xmoo:
HD Confirmed on Youtube.

Played http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p27cLysfqYc without any lag!!!!
[HD2 General] hrcro:
Could you tell us something about overall build quality? Is there any squeaky noises? In call and microphone quality? And that sort of stuff.

Thanks.
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
I am VERY impressed with the quality of that video on the HD2 - sound is brilliant too - and I am streaming it over HSDPA!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
The sound quality, on high volume is **** sometimes! In call it's greate!

I did it over 3G. I disable H, cause 3G is batt friendlier
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Oh, right, I knew about that. I thought perhaps you meant Google Maps could rotate the map so that it has the correct orientation for the direction you're facing, or that StreetView could automatically rotate to show the view you're looking at. :(
[HD2 General] Dextrosan:
Don't mean to be a nit-picker, but shouldn't it say "Yes it does". Got me confused when first reading it. On the second page you clearly state it does work. Other than that, thanks for your info, great work!
[HD2 General] hnparedes:
It works, check the manual and they explain how to do it.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
My bad sry.

Also I just checked. And my version dit come with Netcf 3.5!!

Tried playing HD video, but my Core player didn't support it.

Anyone got link for a good coreplayer support hd?
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
How do you disable HSDPA and have 3G instead?

I can only find the option to change the band from WCDMA to GSM... - which turns off HSDPA/3G and just makes it GPRS/Edge.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Settings - > Network -> Advance Network -> Disable hspa/hspu.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Okay, I have a question.

Could you try installing TCPMP on it, and see if it works? Try the version from this post first. You may need to juggle settings a bit. On my TP2 I have to go into the DirectDraw settings and tick the box that says "use blitting instead of overlay". (Ideally it would be nice to test which combinations of settings work and which don't, but this might crash the phone and/or render TCPMP unuseable if you're not careful!) I'd like to know how the performance compares with Coreplayer.

If you can't make it work using DirectDraw (even with blitting) then try GDI or Raw Framebuffer mode.

If that version of TCPMP won't run at all then try the one from here.

Could you also go onto the main (i.e. not mobile) iPlayer website and see if you can play the videos in either PIE or Opera? (I'm guessing you won't be able to). Assuming you can't, can you try installing myplayer (from here) and see if that works. If possible, try downloading the .mov version of a BBC programme and see how well that plays in TCPMP as well as in Coreplayer. (Note that downloading and streaming give you different versions).
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
By golly - didnt know that - cheers!
[HD2 General] madindehead:
1) What's the multi-tasking like? ie, try browsing the net, playing music and typing in word for us =D

2) Do footprints work well?

3) Is it as snappy and as fast as it looks in the videos?

4) What's the handsfree kit like, call quality wise and listening to music?

5) Is the call quality good on it?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Ur welcome.

Uploading a recorded video with my HD2.

Gonna post link on Twitter when uploaded.

Or keep refreshing http://www.youtube.com/Xmoo123
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Oh yes, and could you try using your own set of headphones (not the ones bundled with the phone). Does the FM radio then work?
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Oh, one other iPlayer question. Could you go onto iPlayer with a desktop PC browser, and see if you can find a programme that offers a desktop quality WMV download (not the moble device download, and not the iPlayer desktop download; try the lastest episode of "Life", that'll probably have it). Transfer that onto the HD2 and see if it can play it smoothly, and with the correct aspect ratio. (I'm guessing it won't, but you never know).

Could you also confirm that HTCAlbum can play avi's encoded with xvid; and could you see if you can find something encoded with divx and try that too?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Confirm, Ipod ear pieces.
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
One more thing.... well a few more things (from one HD2 user to another)...

Do you find clicking on links in IE/Opera a real nightmare and you have to zoom in really far to click the links?

Also, how did you play an AVI? Can't play an XVID here :/

Any decent Google Reader RSS programs about? CUrrently using SpeedReader and it is very basic.

Thanks!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Played Avi with HTC Album.

Someone provided me with latest Core Player gonna instal and try opening the HD video.

After that my skoool is done, and I will close the support for now!

Core player did not work

Player: Audio coded (ac-3) not supported by the player! (0108)
[HD2 General] DeeTee73:
3 Buttons

1. Forward

2. Play / Pause / Phone

3. Back
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Does the "Pocket" version of MS Word enable screen rotation? And, if not, does that mean you can't use the keyboard in landscape orientation when editing a Word document?
[HD2 General] DAMIEN123_666:
hi mate how meny time before you got this did u charge the battery, my battery is alot worse from 8am ~ 10am my battery is at 77% i have done sofar

*backlight set @ 30%

*hspda ON

*Weather, facebook download every 1 hour;

*1call, 5min

*3 SMS got, 5 SMS sent

*1hours playing with phone (general settings)

*took 10 photos

*took 1 vid 3min long

from 100% to 77%,
[HD2 General] xmoo:
5 Hours msn over 3G only.

Sync on

No calls

2 SMS.

100% to 68%....
[HD2 General] kersh:
how you can change the hsdpa connection to 3G only?

I only known that we was two connections, gprs or 3g that is 3G and HSDPA

btw, I am far far far far more close to damien in battery terms that xmoo.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Advanced Network, in settings.
[HD2 General] panikiniki:
stereo bluetooth

Been using a stereo bluetooth headset starting from the 9th November. And sofar did not encounter any dropouts:cool:
[HD2 General] kersh:
well, I think that HSDPA it is only enabled when you connect to internet right?

As i dont connect so much every day, I think that I will have it activated.

3g only 200kbps

hsdpa 800kbps

Or i am wrong and hsdpa is active all the day with more battery even if I dont use internet?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
No, only used while downloading or browsing etc.
[HD2 General] mskip:
Ordering it today :D

Just wondered if anyone can give me an honest opinion of the colour reproduction on the 65k screen? Do movies and pictures look sharp and well contrasted? I have never seen a phone with a 16million colour screen so I wouldnt be able to compare but if someone has both and could give a comparison that would be great.

Reviews in quickly please :)

Thanks.
[HD2 General] NZtechfreak:
I'll be happy to make a comparison when I collect my HD2 in a couple of hours.

Currently I have an i8910, which has a 16m colour AMOLED display, so it'll be interesting to see how it stacks up...
[HD2 General] rovex:
In my opinion AMOLED screens are over saturated. The look great in the shop and all (like TVs in shops), but like TVs they are set up to be way to strong to grab your attention. The colours are not realistic.
[HD2 General] Yunabeco:
Had the Samsung i900 Omnia before that, and now having owned the HD2 for a day, I can say the following:

-Huge screen is huge, and is a fingerprint magnet.

-The HD2's GPS is in any and every way possible superior to the i900's.

-The capacitive screen works well, accurate most of the time, but I experience mistyping when I slide too much over the default keyboard.

-The display itself is simply beautiful. Well, besides the whole "Windows Mobile = 65k colours" thing, the picture has nice sharpness and contrast, compared to my old i900.

-The UI (Sense in particular) is responsive, but not as responsive as I expected. There's still a minimal delay.

-Video play back is good but... I experience a lot of frame skipswhen playing 480x800 videos (Using H264/AAC in MP4, at the very least). I don't really want to know what will happen if I try to play HD stuff.

Here's hoping the latter two will be fixed in a later rom. Well, HTC is "aware of the issue".
[HD2 General] mskip:
Thanks for the review. I never thought the 65k screen would be too much of a problem but its good to hear the colour reproduction is sharp. Video playback problems arent too much to worry about as it can be sorted by encoding with a different codec. Sense will be made faster with custom roms or just changing settings. I dont know if Advanced Config Tool works with the HD2 to tighten settings but it should do.

Vodafone SUDDENLY went out of stock this morning when I rang up to order and told me it wouldnt be back in til 27th so it looks like im back waiting again :(
[HD2 General] babblerx:
How do you tuen off Sense UI on HD2

Just got my HD2 yesterday, so not fully familiar with it yet.

Although I like the Sense UI, I just wanted to try Titanium, but can't see how you disable Sense UI.

Any idea's anyone?
[HD2 General] niknik76:
today screen options, a bit silly that it is placed there if you ask me
[HD2 General] babblerx:
Titanium

Nope, it's not there, unless I'm missing something really simple.

Can you give a step by step guide to where it is and how to turn it off?
[HD2 General] mskip:
I dont know if its the same as TF2D but try Start Menu, Settings, Personal, Today, Items, TOUCHFLO.
[HD2 General] niknik76:
^ It is the same - It's just called HTC Sense in the scroll down menu now :)
[HD2 General] babblerx:
Turning off Sense UI

It's not the same, at least for me...the route in is slightly different, though I'm on an undoctored Vodafone HD2 (HD2s on other networks might be different). Anyway, the route in for me is...

Start > Settings > Menu Soft Key (bottom right) > All Settings > Today > Items tab > Uncheck HTC Sense in the list.

Thanks anyway lads, you pointed me in the right direction :D
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Damn!! 47,653 views :O
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Any answers to these guys? Sorry to hassle =p

Just too excited!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Multi tasking works very good.

HTC Taskmngr does not close the apps.

This way you can work fast cause of the big RAM.

Footprints work very fast, everything seems stable.

The video playback is amazing, normal videos as hd video.

Car kit/Hands free dunno yet.

In call quality is simular like the Touch HD.

Last one for 2day!
[HD2 General] madindehead:
What's it like on the Touch HD? Call quality I mean =p

My X1 is ok, but I hope this is better ^^
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
1) What's the multi-tasking like? ie, try browsing the net, playing music and typing in word for us =D

Playing an MP3 whilst surfing the net and I have Outlook open in the background. Seems speedy to me.

2) Do footprints work well?

Works as well as any other HTC device with it - ie works well.

3) Is it as snappy and as fast as it looks in the videos?

I find it to be a little bit slower - I have one folder with over 1000 photos in it, and I cannot go into HTC Album to bring up a tile of them, then scroll through them - it seems to take ages updating the thumbnails.

4) What's the handsfree kit like, call quality wise and listening to music?

Not tried the hands free kit - but normal call quality is very good - speaker is VERY loud - wife had to turn it down to half way to stop her being deafened :) Not tried the speakerphone - but music is loud and clear through the speaker.

5) Is the call quality good on it?

Very good. No echo like on the Hero...
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Yeah, Coreplayer doesn't support AC3 (Dolby Digital) audio - a pain, but a known limitation. This is one of the reasons why I want you to test TCPMP as it does support AC3 (although doesn't support a bunch of other stuff).
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
If you tell me exactly what file to download from there, then I will test it tonight.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Check out post #33 in this thread. :) If you are feeling especially energetic there's post #38 as well....
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I've found TCPMP terribly slow on Qualcomm processors.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
One or two benchmarks I've seen suggest that it manages about 70%-80% of the frame-rate of Coreplayer on some devices. You do need to use a recent build, one that can utilise DirectDraw (with blitting). It'd be sweet if someone came up with a driver that allowed it to use DirectDraw overlays.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
New pictures online!!!

http://twitter.com/Xmoo

Also uploading 2 videos.
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
It returns "Unknown file format"