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[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
so WHaT doeS your notification message contain in senders part... i have disabled my notification messages so dont know abt that well i will try that....:o

edit:

i just enabled the notification messages. i believe u meant sent message notification...well in that case i can select contact as system administrator and apply any rule to it. and u can fetch any contact whether it is in ur contact list or not, from contacts from messages dropdown list(it's default option).
[Windows Mobile Software Development] fearless139:
thanks, this's better than other shareware :)

but I hope you'll improve UI in future :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] krups:
Nice App!

Hi Mohit,

This is very nice app. I was searching for auto hiding certain SMS or something related around last year, but no luck, so I coded very roughly and currently using it.

If you had developed this application last year, I would not have tried and coded it, instead used this app directly, hehe :D Good Job!

Regarding hiding SMS, I did some weird thing but its working. I replied you on the topic in CodeProject forum.

Did you find something to create new message in specific folder using this MAPI .net wrapper? Actually I wanted to intercept incoming message using .NET message interceptor (with NotifyAndDelete option) and then copy this intercepted message in to specific folder using MAPI.NET wrapper. I want this because, I don't want application to be running all the time.

Happy Coding!

Krupal
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Thanks Krupal,

regarding moving a message to new folder u can set the move option to true in copy message method.(if i got u correct),then u can just move the message to the desired folder.

And about notifyanddelete option i am not using it since i have to apply rules according to user preference so i am just using Notify option and using that start an application that will take care of message handling. this application will run and exit after processing the messages.

the caller application (messageinterceptor) will trigger automatically even if the application is not running.

if this is what u want please let me know i can provide u with further details.

and thanks for that message hiding hint... well since Jugad is India's invention this could have been expected from an Indain only :cool:

well i will try it out but dont think will add it in existing app. maybe next time... since my phone touchscreen is not working... so wont be able to test it much.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] krups:
Sorry to hear your phone's touchscreen is not working :(

:) Actually, for moving message i use the same thing you described. But I need to create a message in specified folder rather than moving. Currently I m doing the same way you mentioned, like using notify option and then moving message with triggered application. The issue with this is, other message parsing applications like manila or s2u2 will bring up this message on the screen which we intended to hide, also, message will be come in to inbox and this will make new sms ringtone notification; instead i want to handle notification my self :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Just a clarification/confirmation.. do you want to move each and every message, as notify and delete will delete all the new messages.(if i am not wrong) so we need to handle all new messages.

edit: was going thru some forums where i read this check the last one. seems my understanding was not correct for notifyanddelete option and according to him this should do the job. Right?

Well saw your shake app... seems awesome. :D I have elf ;) cant use :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] krups:
Thanks for the compliments! :)

It seems there is some confusion. Let me explain in detail:

I want to hide all incoming SMS arrived from specific number. So I have created message intercept on specific number. Currently I am using notify option, which takes the message in to inbox and after that I move this message using MAPI.NET wrapper to hidden folder. But as this takes message to inbox, other message parsing apps like manila (tf3d) and S2U2 brings up this new sms on the screen. Instead I want to intercept new message (with notify and delete) in such a way that it never goes to inbox instead i want it directly to be moved to hidden folder.

If I use notify and delete option, on message interception event I get full new SMS, but I am not able to find out a way to copy this new SMS in to hidden folder. If there is some method in MAPI to create a message in specific folder, this could be achieved. Are you aware of such method? Also I don't want to store message in some other db or file. I want it in hidden folder at message store itself.

Hope this time it is more clear :)

Thanks for helping me out.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Thanks for clearing it out. will try and let u know. by the way have u asked robert from MAPI.NET maybe he can suggest some thing. as i also wanted to do same for my application.

Well will try again and if u get some thing from your end please let me know.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ajhvdb:
Hi, is this open source? i'm new to developing and are very interested how you created this.. I looked at another great open source application "RemoteTracker". It intercept also SMS's but it has a problem intercepting the SMS on a HD2.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
It is a freeware since it uses an opensource library. Will be glad to help you, there are lot of examples you can find regarding message interception. i have also learned from there.

so if you want to know something please let me know
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ajhvdb:
RemoteTracker is completely written in C# and uses the concept of the "wait for change receive SMS" (notification broker). Somehow on the HD2 it is intercepted by HTC SMS handler. I looked at another open source application "ReRemind", this is written in VB and C# but a C++ service is running in the background and doing this waiting. It has no problems intercepting the change on "incoming call" and "wakeup". I'm a little bit lost which method/code is better to use.

I will send you a PM with my email address.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] DuMnUt101:
Question or Suggestion

I couldn't figure out how to do it, so if its possible I apologize and hope you can tell me how to do it. If its not possible than take it as a suggestion.

So here the deal:

I forward some of my emails to my phone, because I don't use the account very often other than for the thing that gets forwarded to my phone. So when I get a message its from sender 1001010203 and each time I get a new message from that account it goes up so 1001010204, 205, 206 etc..

So I wanted to create a rule where I could auto-move/delete anything with contact of 1001010* to catch all that are like that.

What do you think?

Thanks in a advance.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Thanks for trying out.

well to be frank this was possible with the very early release of this app. i thought of including it in my existing app but missed it. it is not a big deal. so if possible i will surely add it when i get time.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] slackdna:
hi, first of all thx for a great job well done :)

I've some question though, I'm using windows mobile 6.1 standard with both .net 2 and 3.5 installed, but I couldn't get this program to work, everytime I start CreateRules, it always throw me an error

"An unexpected error has occurred in CreateRules.exe.

Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more informations"

when I select Details

"CreateRules.exe

NotSupportedException

at Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr()

at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InitInstance()

...."

is there any other requirement to get this software working on my Samsung C6625 ?

thx a ton!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi slackdna,

So is ur device a touchscreen? also i went thru some forums where i found out that this is basically problem with the type of device.

the app is built for a windows mobile 6 professional device or PocetPC so in other device like classic or smartphone they dont support buttons on forms so this is erroring out as i have buttons on forms.

so If this is the case then i am sorry, cant help u:o but maybe next time i will keep this in mind:rolleyes:.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi DuMnUt101,

I just went thru the app again and now it seems that it would be a major rework to impliment it. I suggest that why dont u use message filter, i am sure that ur fwd email notifications must have some common text. u can put that as filter.

Thanks,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] slackdna:
Ok i get it, its for touch screen device and mine isn't a touch screen device, well ok then, guess I have to look another similar software to do the trick. o btw thx for your answer and keep up the good work !!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
New Version Available!!!

SMSRule4.1 is now available.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Jibreil:
v4.1 installed on WinMo6.5 on HTC HD2.

My Rule 1:

Rule Action: HIDE

Contacts From: FIRST NAME

To Folder: Conversations

My Rule 2:

Rule Action: HIDE

Contacts From: MESSAGES

To Folder: Conversations

Possible Bug:

- After adding password, clicking on View Private Folder crashes the app.

- Doesn't recognize names if Contact File As is Last name, First name. Hence fails to HIDE the Message #Applies to RULE 1#

- When select message to HIDE it hides the message from that person under Manila view, but when we click 'All Messages', it displays the Message. #Applies to RULE 2#

Suggestion:

- Contacts from: FIRST NAME -> The contacts should appear in Alphabetical order

- Contacts from: -> It should recognise contacts with FIRST NAME only in the Contact field

- Contracts from: -> It should display contacts with Company name only.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Thanks Jibreil for testing it.

yes i have tested as per your suggestion and i found some bugs which are there. I think no one tested it:o including me:D(more than 6000 downloads) i just use message contacts which works fine for me/other. well bugs accepted and will be fixed. A REAL THANKS to you.

Regarding the last one about hiding bug i am not sure why this should happen maybe they have fixed something in new outlook. as i have tested it in emulator and my HTC touch and it works just fine. so in detail when when u click all messages where do u see the message? is it in inbox? what happens when u click show private folder, is the hidden message there?

Yes i know u said it crashed the first time, but should work fine the next time u enter the password.

There are lot of questions but just need to know where is the problem.

Thanks,

Mohit
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Jibreil:
Hi Mohit,

In HD2 the messages come in 'Conversations', I'm not using the Inbox | Sent Box mode. So when I click on All Messages, the message is there with the default view of Conversations.

When the app crashed it deleted all the rules and resetted itself to the default mode. Hence, the Private folder appeared to be blank.

Even after I uninstalled the SMSRule app, I couldn't see the SMS via Manila but when I clicked All Messages the SMS was there.

Have you done the above on your phone? I had not done this RegTweak prior to installing/running your app. Could this be a reason for the Bugs occurring?

Have a couple of questions regarding notifications of SMS's:

-> If I get a SMS which is a part of the Rule I have set to HIDE. How will I be notified? Will I get a normal notification of an incoming SMS OR are you planning to implement a custom notification for the same?

-> If the default notification comes on the Taskbar (on top) will that notification automatically go away after we have read the message from the Private folder?

-> Does your app require the use of .NET Framework Messages 3.5?

Suggestion:

-> Combine the 'Create Rules' & 'Run Rules' into one application.

-> Make the UI more Touch friendly (more of like Resco Explorer 2010)

-> Add a feature that scans the Conversation OR Inbox for existing SMS's after a new Rule is defined. For e.g. if I set a Rule to HIDE ALL SMS's from ABC, then it should scan the SMS box and HIDE ALL SMS's to the Private folder. Make this option Manual rather than Auto.

-> Add a feature to multi select Inbox/Sent Box/Drafts etc. within one rule itself. It's avoids the trouble of creating multiple rules.

P.S.

On my Nokia E75 I've been using Private Call&SMS Guard 5.1 by symbianon.com It would be just awesome if you could implement the UI & every single feature of their software and make your software a shareware.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hey Jibreil thanks again,

well by conversation do you mean threaded mode? as i have a elf and it can have just a normal or threaded mode. so could you just confirm on it.

so well not sure what caused the rules to get deleted as it is stored in a database so a crash should not effect that. and yes uninstalling the app won't restore the smses to normal inbox. and they will remain (hidden well it seems not for u ;)). and i by default have cf3.5 activated in my phone. also it is not necessarly using 3.5framework functionality but since i developed it in VS2008 i just used the latest framework so minimum requirement is 3.5

well regarding notification i will be working very soon.

and suggestions accepted ;) will try to impliment but do not know how much can i do in upgrading UI not have much knowledge on that. ;)

One thing more do u really think first name/last name contact is really needed? I think contact from messages are good enough was thinking to remove it as contact list can grow large but u receive messages from selected ppl.

Thanks again,

Mohit
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Jibreil:
Yes, I mean Threaded mode, it's called Conversations on HD2... may be you can take a look at it via some of the YouTube videos. The threaded mode of WinMo has been overhauled to give it the 'iPhone' appeal.

I found that quite weird too the crash just restored the app to its default settings.

Thanks, I'm sure the suggestions will do a lot more for you functionality and monetary wise. The only app I've heard that doing it's job is Call SMS Blocker but the catch here is that people needed to switch of Threaded mode for it to work.

The first name/last name contact is needed since many like me who sync our contacts via Microsoft Exchange with Google Sync land up seeing our contacts appearing in Last name/First name format on the phone - even though its listed the other way on GMail. Hence I feel that your app is unable to read the contact data when the SMS arrives.

Having said the above, it's best to keep both options open.

Suggestion:

-> For loading the contacts, avoid using the frame that list all the contacts, rather allow the user to select the contact via the default Contacts application. This will also save on app memory and loading time (for people who have more than 800+ contacts)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Happy new year

Happy New Year to all the XDA MEMBERS Keep rocking... :cool:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nubibgt:
hmm....when i hide the contact message,the message still appear to my inbox, its still need a time to move it(hide) to private folder....

any other way to direct the hidden message contact to my private folder? hehehe ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
yes nubibgt i am working over it to find a solution for this. hopefully i could find a solution.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I am getting sms updates from Facebook, and each new "thread" is received from a contact that starts with, let's say, 12345. The first one was 12345001, and it increments it by one for each following one.

I was hoping that this app would allow me to archive those sms updates into a folder by filtering any contacts that starts with 12345, but I just found your note that this cannot be done.

I already thought of using message filter, but these numbers are not in the messages.

Any other suggestions?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi donfano,

ur problem has been fixed. now u can add custom number formats using Contacts from: option "*CARD #" u can enter the number format and choose the folder to filter those messages.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Filter Rules Updated

Changes in 4.2

1. Autorun option stops wm default notification and provides custom notifications for the rules applied. Unchecking Autorun starts wm notification.

2. Contact names are now in order.

3. First Name last name rules now working.

4. One more option added to add wildcard numbers. to match common format numbers.

5. Some minor fixes.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ajhvdb:
Hi, is this open source too? Would love to see how things are done.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
That's awesome!:) You know what? I was about to uninstall your software from my mobile.:rolleyes:

I will give the new version a try today and will let you know if I am running into any problem. Well, I will let you know either way.

Cheers,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi ajhvd,

well my code is all logic so i can just help u out if u have some issues. all the work done is take from internet. Accessing SMS folder is done using the dll from the MAPI.NET project(link in first post) and it is an open source and very usefull if u want to start some thing.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hey nice to know this donfano,

hope this fixes ur problem

let me know if it does thanks for trying out :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Good news, Mohit! This fixed my problem. Thank you very much!:)

I was just wondering if you could add a horizontal scroll bar in the Add Contact list view, so I can see the rest of the name. I have few people who have the same last name, and I need to see the first name to know which is which. I think it would help also if the names are not listed all in uppercase. Perhaps, the first letter should be in uppercase.

Since you are open for new ideas, I was wondering if you can consider some of mine:

+ the possibility to apply rules on other folders (on Sent Items folder to start with)

+ a feature to move/copy a whole thread (Inbox + Sent items) to a folder

Thanks,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gabfus:
Hi, good work, its good program.

its possible to create a rule with Category of contacts?

ex. Friend, Family etc?

When I select a contact its possible to have a LastName and FirstName ex. Bill Gates and not Bill only or gates only; I have more friends with same lastname.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi gabfus,

this is a very straight fwd app which helps u to sort ur messages from ur SMS inbox. there is no such option in it which u can use the contact category. well this is the first such request so i never thought abt it and lot of ppl want their smses to be sorted in a different way so i have kept it simple.

well abt displaying of contact names i have just kept 3 options(4th one added in 4.2 release) where u can select ur contact from messages, by first/last or user defined number or name string.

personally i feel contacts from messages is best as u can filter those specific contacts who regularly sms u.any ways i will just keep this in mind for the next release.

Thanks for trying.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Good to know this donfano,

well i was also thinking same about adding a horizontal scroll but due to time constraints couldn't do it may be next time.

the other two options are also nice. maybe u will see them next time. ;)

Keep it installed :D

Thanks,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
This is definitely a keeper... thanks to the new features! I look forward in the next release:)

Thanks,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] gabfus:
Thanks for response.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Dutch-AK47:
SMS Filter Rules 4.2

I have HTC TOUCH HD.

Missing most entries on the list of contacts!

I cant create rule for that contacts :(

What now?

Thx
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
I didnt get exactly what u mean by missing entries. do you mean you have entries in ur outlook contacts(not sim) but those are not getting populated in the applications contact list?

Well for your question the answer is yes, in V4.2 there is an option to select wildcard contact ie u can provide the full number, number pattern or a name, but be aware that *CARD # option will apply rule to all the contacts which fulfills the match criteria. If i give match string as 98848, it will filter all the numbers which contains(anywhere) 98848 string and its same with the name.

so use it carefully to avoid unwanted filters.

Thanks,

Mohit
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Sporadic problem with hiding rule

Hi Mohit,

I ran into a problem, and I hope you can help me to resolve it. The first time I tried the hiding rule, I got the report showing that one message has been hidden. I went to look at the PRIVATE folder, and it was empty. The message was nowhere to be found. I thought back then that I probably did something wrong.

I ran a test last night again, and this time it worked fine. My message got hidden and stored in the PRIVATE folder.

Today:

1. deleted the existing rule

2. started a new rule

3. received 2 messages that got hidden automatically

4. opened the PRIVATE folder from SMS Rules --> it was empty. Then, I noticed there are 2 unread messages in Deleted Items

5. opened the Deleted Items --> my 2 messages were found there (???)

6. closed WM Mail & SMS Rules

7. opened WM Mail

8. opened the Deleted Items --> folder is empty!

9. closed WM Mail

10. opened SMS Rules

11. opened the PRIVATE folder --> folder is still empty!

12. opened the Deleted Items --> folder is also empty, and the 2 messages are nowhere to be found
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Thanks for Testing,

Will check out it today
[Windows Mobile Software Development] drs_sa:
thanks

it is so helpful program, but not compatible with hd2, can u fix that bc the size of program on hd2 small.

thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
is the size only a problem or is it not working?

can u also provide some screen shots?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi donfano,

I tried ur steps but it is working fine:confused:

I did as u have suggested, but that worked normally for me. well i tried it in my emulator and since i have lot of messages in my elfs PRIVATE folder cant delete that:D well i will try to do it later on my device. i suppose we both have same devices:HTC elf.

One more thing just to clarify did u let the app create the PRIVATE folder or u manually created it? and did u set the app to autorun mode or manually ran it to filter messages? :o
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
You might want to put your tests on hold because I cannot reproduce the problem anymore.:rolleyes: I will run more tests during the day and will let you know.

To answer your questions:

1. I am using HTC Vogue. Believe it or not! I had to google for it because it is simply called HTC Touch in this side of the world.:D I will add the info in my signature:cool:

2. I let the app create the PRIVATE folder

3. I set the app to autorun mode
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kiolixed:
Request Features

in next release, could u add following features:

1) hide also sent msg

2) shorcuts to show hidden msg
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
I am already working on the first one, second one i have to think... it will take time as i may have to create a new application for it
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Can't reproduce the problem anymore!:confused: I will let you know if I ever run into the same problem with a way to reproduce it.

Thanks,