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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Allen Mead:
You can download the "Stock" HTC "theme" HERE

It's zipped as it's around the 40mb mark.

I should make this absolutely clear, this is for Vodafone ROMs only, if a file is already used by the VF ROM it was not included (Generally this is for *.png, *.bmp or *.jpg files). The "theme" will make your TF3D look exactly like it does from HTC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] william-johnson:
Hi, I have read that thread very carefully but need to know if I need to HSPL my Vodafone TP2 to run the 6.5 upgrade? I suspect i might want to return to Vodafone 6.1 or flash a new ROM entirely. Guess my question is do i need to have HSPL to do any of these?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Allen Mead:
If you're using the VF 6.5 ROM update, hardspl is not necessary. This is only necessary if you are going to use anythingelse other than VF ROMs.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
I always suspected that when the Diamond2 is plugged into USB, that the phone continues to run off battery and is simply re-charged. This means that if you have programs running that are consuming the battery faster than it trickle charges, it was possible that it would never fully re-charge.

This situtation was made worse by ActiveSync which keeps the phone alive when in the cradle. If my phone was pretty discharged in the morning when I put it in the cradle, it often never re-charged. I had got into the habit of turning it off so that it re-charged.

WM6.5 has sort of confirmed this. Firstly, it now does re-charge when in the cradle when still on - I assume this is because power management is improved in 6.5 so that it doesn't consume as much power in idle.

But the original suspicion (i.e. doesn't run off USB power then in cradle but still uses battery) was confirmed today when a message popped up saying "Battery is discharging faster than it's charging, please close down some applications".

Nice :-)

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pa49:
USB2 spec is nominal 5V and 500Mah.

But if you use other USB slots then the available current will be reduced.

If the battery charge has been drained below a certain level then the charge circuit will struggle to recharge as well as power the phone.

Attempt to charge as often and for as long as possible, whenever you can preferably with a dedicated wall charger or in car while mobile.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Niczo:
I had a similar problem with one of my old phones. I had alot of devices plugged into the mainboard, so there simply wasn't enough power left to charge the phone battery.

I solved the problem by getting a USB hub with external power supply. Didn't charge quite as fast as with the wall charger, but still enough to keep the battery at full charge.

I'm not sure you got the same problem, but it could be worth a try. Perhaps you should unplug all other USB devices and see if it gets any better first.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
>USB2 spec is nominal 5V and 500Mah.

This isn't USB charging - when in a cradle, it's like charging from the mains charger. The cradle has it's own power supply.

I haven't got a problem :-) My post was just to confirm that a) the Diamond2 always runs off the battery even when plugged in to the mains and therefore if you are running programs that drain faster than it's charging, your battery will never fully recharge and b) WM6.5 now monitors this situation and warns you that it's happening so that you don't wonder why your battery isn't fully charging or takes ages to charge.

The reason it's an issue in the cradle is because ActiveSync prevents the screen for turning off and therefore one is at risk of the above, i.e. discharging almost as fast as it charges. Turn the device off in the cradle and it charges as fast as when using the mains charger. Best charge speed overall is with the device completely powered down.

But WM6.5 has also reduced the power drain when in the cradle, turned on and when ActiveSync is running. In WM6.1, it just about recharged when in the cradle for 8 hours. With WM6.5, it charges in a morning.

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] pa49:
You didn't say anything about a powered cradle!

That setup should have no trouble charging and powering the battery and phone. If it doesn't then suspect the power supply especialy if it's third party. There should be no need to charge when off.

My laptop will quite happily charge and power.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] unite:
I have problem with charging with this Error:

When synchronizing or only by conecting to PC or notebook
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
It's not an error as such - all it means is that your Diamond2 is discharging faster than it can charge. The reason it tends to occur more when connected via USB/Sync is that a) the charge power via USB from your laptop is lower than using a dedicated charger and b) ActiveSync keeps the screen on thus drawing more power.

So hence the suggestion you should close some applications to stop them running thus drawing more power. Of course, the biggest draw is probably ActiveSync and the only way to stop that running is to turn off the phone when in the cradle.

That said, I've found that WM6.5 is much better when it comes to power drain when in this mode and I've only had that message once.

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] unite:
and by navigation (IGO, Tomtom ) ?

At running IGO after 20 minutes by connected charging 5% battery is unloaded
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
Err, all of a sudden my Diamond2 appears to be showing a slideshow after a while when in the cradle. Lucky there's nothing embarassing on there as it's in a cradle in an open office ;)

Is this a feature and how do I turn it off?? Mystified why it's started doing it as it never did it before and I've not been playing - honest.

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
And also, even when the device locks itself (automatically), the slideshow is still trying to run. I've got the <<SLIDE>> icon on screen but every few seconds a bit of slideshow tries to peek through the top 1cm of the screen.

All very bizarre...

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
Anyone? :(

There must be a setting in there somewhere to automatically start slideshow when idle?

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
Not that I know.

You must have some kind of software doing that... How did you get it to lock automatically? Could it be that!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
The automatic lock is on Settings, All Settings, Lock. Just had a look and there's nothing on there that looks like slideshow. Actually, the slideshow appears before it locks full-screen but then it tries to even peek through when locked.

I've been looking around and wonder if it's something to do with "Sideshow":

http://blogs.inquirer.net/m-ph/2007/11/28/windows-mobile-slideshow/

I don't use Vista or W7 - still on Windows XP.

Cheers, Rob.

PS. It doesn't display the slideshow when out of the cradle which is another reason I suspect it's sideshow...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
Guess what: I found (just now) the automatic lock.

Anyway, there must be some trick here. I'll check it too.

I'll come up if I found something.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
Finally an answer from the Microsoft mobile forum. It's a setting on the pictures and video applet to display a slideshow when plugged into a PC. The reason I couldn't find it was because you have to scroll down the menu to find the options entry. This is one (of a few) things I don't like about WM - it's not obvious that the menu has more items on it than you can see. For a PC user, scrolling a menu isn't a natural thing to do.

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
Glad to know!
[HD2 General] mrturq:
Dear HTC LEO, welcome in my life.

But why is there no way to activate the quick menu?(on the upper right corner?)

And how about the lock screen? every time the device wakes up it locks.

how do i disable and enable these things?
[HD2 General] mrturq:
still no answers
[HD2 General] Archer:
I'm wondering the exact same thing myself mate.

Can no-one help?
[HD2 General] Beards:
Another here who misses the 'Quick Menu'.

There's a lot of talk on not being able to shut down programs that are loaded into memory without now having to launch the Task Manager first, but this was all part of the same HTC Task Manager.... you either closed it or brought it to the front.
[HD2 General] ardsar:
several threads going on this. HTC task manager cab can be found in the threads "hints and tips". The cab has been provided by Dutty Throy. I have read that some users need to disable htc sence before installing.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Thanks for that, but that doesn't work for me. Strange, since other HD2 users are okay with that cab.
[HD2 General] ardsar:
did you disable htc sence before installing?
[HD2 General] Beards:
Yes, I'm well aware of those topics. I've contributed to some myself.

What I am saying though is although there is a lot of talk on this no one seems to mention the Quick Menu's acxess list.

Everone talks of being able to access the closed 'X'.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Yes mate, after reading your post I tried that, but still no luck :(

I agree. If the memory management is so super-duper that it can leave programs open and not have a detrimental effect then that doesn't help me switch between them on my MULTI-TASKING smart phone now does it!

I just want the quick menu back. I hate the idea of having to flash a ROM onto a phone that I've had for less than a day, just to get some of the functionality that I expected to be standard.
[HD2 General] Dr.Sid:
You can switch to running application by running it again.
[HD2 General] Archer:
I've been using a very similar OS for over a year now, and have always been able to just click the down arrow in the top right of my home screen for a list of running apps. This is what people are asking for, not work-rounds.

Besides, if the app in question is in a sub-menu of a sub-menu of the start menu, then it becomes a real pain to run it again. It's quicker to stick the task manager on your quick links on the home page and use that (despite the fact that that is ANOTHER app running, and we don't have access to exclusions any more either).
[HD2 General] Beards:
Yes but this is exactly why there is an issue in not having a 'Quick Menu'.

Running them again you have to open Start then find the program (of which if you have many, many programs/games can take quite a bit of effort).

Much simpler to just open the 'Quick Menu' and click on the already opened program.....

Edited:

johncmolyneux apologies, you answered the same question just as I was posting my reply. :)
[HD2 General] Archer:
Great minds think alike :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HTCNeil:
I just wanted to share this with you all:

Free Tilt 2 with unlimited plan, seriously that what i got.
[Imagio ROM Development] kaseapfe:
I admit that I am a complete rookie when it comes to any serious modifications oh phones, but I have recently been diving in as deep as I can with the help of this great forum. I am curious if anyone thinks it will even be possible/easy to get the latest version of Android running on the Imagio (US Verizon) at some point.

Thanks
[Imagio ROM Development] rjygraham:
Why not just buy the HTC Droid Eris?
[Imagio ROM Development] kaseapfe:
Because I just bought the Imagio.
[Imagio ROM Development] Americanmetal:
I'm sure once this beast is unlocked it will be ported over.
[Imagio ROM Development] ShakespearesEdge:
Yeah, just hang in there. Duno why it's taking so long to get the unlock, but whatever........:cool: It'll be soon and then it's bye-bye Verizon!!
[Imagio ROM Development] AndroidBruce:
I am definitely interested in this, but I also feel that the resistive touch screen will limit the touch functionality,
[Imagio ROM Development] davidstre:
while its resistive touch, its extremely responsive. its very intuitive, it reacts when you want it to and never reacts to an accidental touch. i wouldnt let that hinder you.

i know they got android running on the omnia so i see no reason why it wont be running on the imagio. i started a thread here to try to collect some spl unlock information for newbies like myself, maybe we can figure it out sooner rather than later.
[Imagio ROM Development] ssjgoku24:
I would love this. I had one for my tytnII on AT&T. It would be even better now especially if we could get 2.1 running.
[Imagio ROM Development] mallman:
someone should cruz over to the blackstone forum and try the android build. It isnt a flash, you boot it from within windows.The imagio and the blackstone are virtually the same device.
[Imagio ROM Development] Americanmetal:
Not really.
[Imagio ROM Development] HTC Touch Freak:
Actually you guys should Try the Topaz build. The Imagio is a different looking Touch Diamond2/ AT&T Pure. I doubt it will since you guys have a different size screen and mebe other Hardware changes because it's CDMA but you could try.

The Topaz Android does work on the Touch Pro 2. The Imagio could be considered the bastard child of the Diamond2 and Pro2. :D
[Imagio ROM Development] davidstre:
nobody listen to this bs. only flash your phone with imagio roms. if you are going to run an enviroment, make sure it is for the imagio. the imagio might kinda look like this phone and act like that phone, but its not this or that phone. dont screw your device up. just hang in there.
[Imagio ROM Development] ssjgoku24:
You are a complete retard. Don't post before you research. Android on a Windows Mobile device does not require a flash. It is an image that boots up inside of WM and "kills" WM and boots Android. It causes absolutely no harm to your phone.

RESEARCH before you post your dumb idiotic ideas that have absolutely no base.
[Imagio ROM Development] davidstre:
listen dumbass,

i told them not to use roms and various other crap made for other phones, because and i know this may come to a shock to someone who is an expert like you, but..............phones vary. why dont you do some research. start by googling "whats a phone" and then go on to searching "why am i such a dumbass"
[Imagio ROM Development] ssjgoku24:
yet again IMAGE not a ROM. If you start the IMAGE in windows mobile it will boot android. If you RESET the phone its windows mobile again..... No harm, no damage......

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396782

http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser:install

"Installing Android

Currently, Android is booted from within Windows Mobile. It does not run INSIDE Windows Mobile nor is it emulated! An application named HaRET is used as a bootloader to REBOOT the device into Android."

Now I am sorry if I offended you and I agree people should not just go and put and ROM on your phone...

I am also not responsible if someone does mess up there stuff, precautions should be taken.
[Imagio ROM Development] davidstre:
I understand how the whole android ordeal works, i was voicing concern over the fact that it says Kaiser. It doesent say WinMo, it specifically says Kaiser. I can only assume this is because it has not been tested for full functionality on other devices. While yes, I see no real reason why this shouldnt work, it truthfully may not. You and me both have been there man, you put something on your phone, it should work, it works, then suddenly your hard resetting. I simply dont want any newbies to start throwing stuff for different model phones on their device thinking its going to be fine. I was simply saying if it isnt designed for your model phone specifically, do some research, ask around see if someone has it working on their device.
[Imagio ROM Development] Americanmetal:
Kaiser = HTC Kaiser which is a Windows Mobile phone.
[Imagio ROM Development] davidstre:
*sigh* honestly, just forget it.
[Imagio ROM Development] Machaon:
Just because it is a Windows Mobile phone doesn't mean it will work...

HTC Kaiser DOES NOT equal HTC Imagio.

The entire basis of why we are still waiting for ROMs on the Imagio is because it is a DIFFERENT phone model..obviously just because there is an Android build able to run on Windows Mobile doesn't mean we can just use it right off the bat.
[Imagio ROM Development] davidstre:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=104666

case in point. this guy had to tweak it heavily and it still doesent work right.

why?

because its not a direct line. yes, kaiser= htc kaiser blah blah blah

but phone models are DIFFERENT.

whether its a rom, or a .cab, or ANYTHING if it isnt made for your phone, theres a good chance it WONT work. theres your proof. if this build worked on ALL windows mobile phones, various builds dedicated to specific models would not be around folks. thank you.
[Imagio ROM Development] drellisdee:
Android has been booted on Imagio based on the work here on the topaz/rhodium.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=104666

If anyone is friends with the devs who are working on the topaz/rhod android can someone ask them to help us as whitestone will boot using the topaz mtype but we need the hardware keys mapped right.
[Imagio ROM Development] davidstre:
is everything else fixed? because in your ppcg thread i saw that besides the hardware keys not being mapped correctly,

the cdma doesent work, so it cant make phone calls or do data.

the wifi doesent work, so again, no data

and the bluetooth doesent work, which isnt a huge deal, but to some it may be.

also, the gps doesent work.\
[Imagio ROM Development] knotbeerdan:
I cannot wait to try this out
[Imagio ROM Development] BRosenow:
Android ?

Originally posted by davidstre

besides the hardware keys not being mapped correctly,

the cdma doesent work, so it cant make phone calls or do data.

the wifi doesent work, so again, no data

and the bluetooth doesent work, which isnt a huge deal, but to some it may be.

also, the gps doesent work.

Yea boy . . . I can't wait to try it out either! You might as well take out the battery and use it THAT WAY!
[Imagio ROM Development] knotbeerdan:
lol of course i meant after its all fixed. Still though if it doesnt screw with our winmo installation and we can revert with a soft reset then it could be fun to play with when you dont need a connection.... Whenever that is. Or when someone asks you to borrow your phone turn on Android and let them try it :)
[Imagio ROM Development] knotbeerdan:
booting now... Hopefully, anyone know how long it takes for this to boot?
[Imagio ROM Development] rjygraham:
I read that it can take anywhere between 2-10 minutes depending on your SDHC card.
[Imagio ROM Development] ataranine:
If this gets fully working I'm so taking my Eris back and getting the Imagio.
[Imagio ROM Development] knotbeerdan:
Are there any windows mods like taskbars that might keep this from booting? I tried everything last night including formatting my card and only putting android files on there. Still wouldnt boot
[Imagio ROM Development] azuban:
I was able to boot mine fine. Took a couple of minutes. Had fun navigating through all the menues, no connectivity of any kind though.

I'd definitely switch to Android if it was fully functional on this phone.
[Imagio ROM Development] knotbeerdan:
I ran it and waited 20 minutes... Still shows the pic i posted below. I do see something though not sure if it matters.... In the text that the screen freezes on i have 2 "unknown boot options"

unknown boot option 'lcd.density=240' : ignoring

unknown boot option 'wifi.mac=00:23:76:4b:6a:b': ignoring

now i know its missing something before the b but the far left side is cut off. Any ideas?
[Imagio ROM Development] BRosenow:
Is either of those the LAST item displayed? The LCD Density property should indicate the screen resolution and the MAC address is the unique hardware address that every network device is assigned. Considering that they were "ignored" I would be surprised if either of them was the reason it is not starting.

Just my .02 FWIW.
[Imagio ROM Development] ssjgoku24:
Have not tried this yet, but for the touch pro 2 to get the audio to work you can call your voicemail and while in your voicemail boot android this will start your audio up. If you want speakerphone to work do the same but use speakerphone.

If anyone tries this let us know!

Edit:

It does work if you do this. Just call anyone or your voicemail and it will keep the audio active and android will be able to use the audio.
[Imagio ROM Development] Americanmetal:
Love it

Just need to get the buttons right and adjust the slugishness for me to be fully happy with it.

When I used Android on my Mogul I had an application called Toga that I could run to get internet access.

Anyone know a way to get it on this?

When the screen automatically goes into lock can anyone else move the sliders? lol
[Imagio ROM Development] knotbeerdan:
I read somewhere that you have to press the power button because the phone thinks the screen is off.
[Imagio ROM Development] Americanmetal:
Ah

If you hit the call button twice it unlocks
[Imagio ROM Development] haris3:
Did you have a mirrored image in the beginning? How did you fix it? WiFi?

Thanks.
[Imagio ROM Development] Americanmetal:
I got my image here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3695364&highlight=releases#post3695364

2.0.1

Fix what?

No wifi.
[Imagio ROM Development] DadamsJR:
any update on this?
[Imagio ROM Development] DadamsJR:
I keep checking here and ppc and cant wait to have a fully working android option on my phone!
[Imagio ROM Development] Gbmedusa:
I have been trying to install Android on my Imagio since yesterday (Feb. 12). When I first tried it, it ran for over seven hours before I finally gave up and hard booted back to Windows. Today I have had it running for over an hour and still the same thing. It just runs a bunch of code on the screen but doesn't seem to be doing anything else.

Unfortunately, when I tried to run it again, it recognizes there is already an install of Android (or at least a botched attempt), but it can't remove it and continues with the install.

I wonder if I need to:

1) completely reset the phone to factory?

2) wipe the SD card?

Any suggestions?
[Imagio ROM Development] Americanmetal:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1558397&postcount=108

The newest kernels don't work
[Touch2 ROM Development] yonn1981:
Here, HTC released new ARABIC ROM:

HTC Touch2 WM6.5 Arabic ROM (GCC and Egypt)

http://www.htc.com/mea-en/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=738&news_id=320

Don't have middle-east serial to get it, someone can help?
[Touch2 ROM Development] JohnSmith28:
Hello,

I have the same request !

I need to update my touch2/mega device with the official htc arabic rom, do you have it ?

Please can you give me a link if you have it ?

Here is my mail adress : amservice78@gmail.com

Thank you.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Gochris:
Can the Telus HTC Hero be unlocked, without having any telus sim or being activated on telus in any way at all? I'm on Bell but want an android device. Was thinking of buying it, unlocking it, and throwing in a Bell sim.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] gthompson75:
unlock?

I am looking for the same answer, it should be able to get unlocked question is has anyone don it yet.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] firefight16:
Unlocked and android 2

Better yet lets see it unlocked and android 2 installed!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tsekh501:
There is a guy on eBay selling unlock code for the Telus Hero (try searching "telus hero"). If you are willing to shell out 25 bucks, you may want to try that. He said that he would refund you if his code didn't work.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ericlin0122:
Telus does not lock the phone, that's what the CSR told me. Pretty much u can put in any sim card to make it work.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Twenty4:
That's really good news for us AT&T guys!!! I just need to buy one now, from what I hear Telus will not ship to the USA.