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[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] jmaciak:
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[HD2 General] weareborg:
Hi guys,

I'm having some difficulty with sending SMS messages. Its sporadic. Sometimes they send immediately, sometimes not at all. Its very frustrating.

For example, the day I got the phone (last week) I sent 2 text messages. I didn't hear back from anyone but thought nothing off it. I checked my messages and they were time stamped with the time I sent them at so I presumed they had gone.

That evening, about 6 hours later, I got my two replies. The people had only just got them, hours later. One of them wasn't impressed because it was intructions for something they needed to do 4 hours previously!

So, I turned on delivery reports on each sent message to make sure they sent.

Over, the next two days, I had no problems, delivery reports come in immediately within seconds of me sending my SMS message.

Meanwhile, I called my network (Vodafone) to see if there were any issues with network. they reported none. I checked the message centre number and verified it against the network one. They matched, so I thought all was in order... except I would have to get annoying delivery reports cluttering up my Text message inbox until I was sure the service was working 100%.

Earlier today, I sent about 3 important text messages, got no delivery reports, so I texted my other phone to see if the messages were going through. Nada. I was annoyed.

I'm thinking.. whats going on?

So about 10 minutes ago I shut down the phone and booted up again. Within 10 minutes I was getting all my delivery reports and replies from people!

Does anyone know what I could be doing wrong, what setting needs to be activated etc?

Obviously I can't use the text messaging on the device if I can't trust it to just work like pretty much every handset I've owned since... year dot.

PS: I spoke to Vodafone care team who said my sim card must be old; newer sim cards (128k) are needed for these "high tech" phones.

But I just took my sim out of my Nokia N97 (never had a problem) last week AND messages ARE going through on the Leo occasionally and only after a reboot, which is utterly pointless.

This is the last thing I thought I'd have issues with on a device like this..

Any advice? Have I missed something?

Thanks.
[HD2 General] Zero Masamune:
Same here, I thought I messed up something in the sms service or so.

Done many hard resets and soft resets. But still no help.
[HD2 General] valleyman83:
I'm experiencing exactly the same problems. Also Vodafone and no one seems to get any sms from me.
[HD2 General] weareborg:
Okay, this ain't good!!
[HD2 General] br3nt:
since you both have vodafone, and I haven't seen/heard about other people having these problems, I'd say it was voda's fault ;)
[HD2 General] Zero Masamune:
Now tell me, why? I've never had problems on my previous phones.

I don't think the vodafone on the Ireland branch is the same as the one in the Netherlands

Kinda happy to hear that you guys also having the same issue.

It can probally be patched/fixed by htc. I googled for "htc sms hotfix"

And htc is also facing sms issues on other devices.
[HD2 General] Fatherboard:
sigh... How will I live without outgoing SMS capability? so lame... hope you guys will find a fix soon.
[HD2 General] chalid:
seems to be the same like the sms bug in previous manila 2.1 build. outgoing messages weren't send, but only on some specific providers.
[HD2 General] weareborg:
How could such a fundamental and critical phone component get screwed up? That just doesn't make sense. Anyone got ideas out there for a fix or we we have to wait for HTC to patch this? What about people who purchased a Leo and have no knowledge of this site etc deal with something like this? They buy a 500+ euro phone, try to send a text message, no joy. Baffled, annoyed, frustrated. Phone would get returned right? Not happy.
[HD2 General] mike91t:
I've had this same problem on ATT in the USA :(
[HD2 General] Zero Masamune:
Had? so it's fixed now?
[HD2 General] johnk1973:
Just had this problem on t-mobile UK. The thing is that if you're in conversation mode it actually gets inserted as if it's been sent. I looked in outbox and it was stuck there, even after pressing 'retry send'. I tried a reset but it was still stuck there, so i retyped the message and sent that, both ended up being sent, with the origanal sms being time stamped as if it was sent ages ago!
[HD2 General] simplymee:
I sometimes have this problem too....

O2 here.
[HD2 General] jakem:
In case it helps, I'm not having any problems on 3UK. Are you all certain it's not a network issue?
[HD2 General] simplymee:
Perhaps it is to be honest... and perhaps tapping 'resend' just makes it happen in the background so it just appears that it does nothing.

I still find of the most annoying things to be the fact that the auto capitalise new sentence option to not work.... it's bad for perfectionists!!
[HD2 General] johnk1973:
+1 !!

It might look like it's mainly vodafone but in the UK at least it by far the biggest network, therefore it's bound to affect more voda users. Only 15 posts and already i see vodafone, att, O2, t-mobile, different countries, different networks.
[HD2 General] paulrockliffe:
This is the same issue that I've had this week with my Touch Pro running the Leo ROM, the device seemed to be turning all my SMS into MMS and then not sending them, though the odd one would sneak through. The problem has been fixed with an update to the custom ROM I'm using. It's the Energy ROM by the way. I'll send the author a message to see if he can pop on here and offer advice on the problem.
[HD2 General] cilf:
same here :( O2 in my phone.. even receive some messages later.. pls help us someone
[HD2 General] mike91t:
No, I have not made any changes that would have fixed the problem, but it is sporadic and only occurred twice a few days ago.
[HD2 General] y1mrn:
unfortunately same problem on o2 uk
[HD2 General] Ben86:
just to keep that thread up ... German HTC HD2 with Vodafone - same sms problem. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. And im pretty sure about its not vodafones fault. SMS sending works just fine on my diamond but HD2.
[HD2 General] socket84:
Damn, same unbeliveble sms problem here...

Italian HTC HD2

H3G operator

I spent 645€ for that s***t?!
[HD2 General] Asik__:
HTC Support

Deleted ....

Reason ....

quote/

HTC need that all the information sended to you must be remove immediately from XDA Developers because its not public information and we will check XDA web site if you removed and if you dont we will contact by phone to talk about it. Please let us now SAP if the infomation has been removed from the web site. Regards HTC Support.

/quote

//Asik
[HD2 General] alan1467:
On Vodafone Uk and sent over 20 texts without a problem
[HD2 General] PJTOUCHHD:
I too have had this problem, I'm with Orange.
[HD2 General] Oakstreet:
Same problem for me, T-mobile NL, the Netherlands. SMS functionality back for unknown amount of time after soft reset.

To me, it seems to happen at the same time the volume keys on the left side of the HD2 change suddenly into up/down, when browsing music with HD2 upright position :confused:

Regards
[HD2 General] Graf Zeppelin:
Oakstreet and all,

Absolutely confirmed.

The volume button bug and the SMS bug seem to be connected. I just noticed that my volume rockers behavior went sideways again. Immediately send out an SMS, SMS remains in outbox since.

HTC Error Log tool is running in the background. Will read out, zip and send to HTC now.
[HD2 General] ijob:
Dont understand what this looks like. Can someone please explain more clearly?

and what do u mean by it goes sideways?
[HD2 General] KapaGT:
I have the same problem in Portugal but with a Nokia :confused:

No problems with the HD2 yet.
[HD2 General] Oakstreet:
Okay, I'll try to be more specific. When I browse my music files using the HTC sense browser and have my phone in upright position, sometimes (not always) this causes the hardware volume keys to change its function: they become the function of up/down buttons in every program/menu. At the same time, SMS delivery and sending does not work anymore.

I hope it's more clear now!

greets
[HD2 General] zepfur:
I have experienced similar problems here in Singapore, just got my HD2 3 days ago :(
[HD2 General] ijob:
gotcha! cheers :)
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
I'm on Orange UK. I am having this issue. I had about 10 messages sitting in my inbox and nothing I did would make them send. Soft reset, try resend etc.

I then changed that setting in the advance communication from 'GSM Preferred' to 'GSM only' and then watched all 10 messages send almost immediately from my outbox. Has anyone else tried setting this to 'GSM Only'.

Now texts are flooding in from all my neglected friends :o
[HD2 General] Highl1:
I sent over 100 SMS before this problem started. And funny thing, I somehow noticed a pattern. Yesterday, around 6 PM I tried to update the weather, and it updated (from partly sunny to rain, as it was, along with the proper degrees), but the time that also changes (small numbers in the right part of the screen) didnt update. Similar thing happened today, weather updated but not the time in weather tab. When I did soft reset, those delayed SMS were sent (and I got all the delieveries for every SMS I sent today), and weather update updated the time in the right corner as well.

I'll keep tracking if it happens again, but someone in the beginning of this thread said also that it was linked with weather for him as well.
[HD2 General] socket84:
good news (i hope...). try:

- hard reset

- install only indispensable utility

- don't touch the registry with any mod linked in this forum. i think that probably there is a mod that makes interference with the sms service...

try and let me know!
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
As i have said before in this thread:

im on STOCK ROM

ZERO TWEAKS/ZERO REG EDITS - hell - even zero programs installed!!!

and it REGULARLY stops sending AND receiving texts - without me noticing / it telling me
[HD2 General] socket84:
it's seems fuction... :)
[HD2 General] kasperknop:
Jep Socket 84, docchris1980 is right - zero regediting here as well and still sms problems... I guess people who doesn't have this problem just don't realize that they do. Alot of my messages appear as send, but when I ask the person in real life they have received zero messages :(
[HD2 General] socket84:
My bad guys!

Also try the chimpsinties trick... Every sms was seended on my HD2.
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
well especially receiving = its hard to know that you arent getting them - its only when my mother calls me to check im still alive because i havent replied to any of her messages....

but i think the phone is actually getting them, and not displaying them. if it was not taking them off the network - then the network would store them and send them when your phone came back after a reset, but this doenst, so the network must think they have been delivered, even though the phone doenst seem to have them?
[HD2 General] tonesy11:
The only way I can be sure they've sent is by turning delivery reports on, then

when one doesn't work I do a soft reset and then try and send another message.

This usually clears my outbox... tho not always. Plus I haven't done any reg

tweaks and was happening before I installed any apps or cabs. Tried that gsm

instead of gsm preferred thing a few days ago, didn't make a difference.
[HD2 General] socket84:
right, same here... this is amazing...
[HD2 General] bslask:
So where did you fint it? Im searching like crazy here.... :(
[HD2 General] Graf Zeppelin:
The SMS bug is a combined bug. At least on my phone that's a fact.

If you experience that SMS remain in your outbox, your volume rocker behavior in YouTube and HTC Music Player has changed to FFwd/FRwd and Track Skip. It might also be linked to Location Based Weather not updating like the other cities you have registered. All vice versa.

I had my SMS remain in outbox right on the first one I sent after setting up a brand new HD2 (Stock ROM) without any additional programs or tweaks on it.

And setting the delivery path to GSM did not solve the problem, period.

It is a Manila/Sense bug, but what triggers the problem is still unclear to me.

BR

GZ
[HD2 General] Confusion:
Temp. SMS Solution!!!

Hello,

For all the people who has the sms problem, I've posted a temp solution in this Thread before.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=584696&page=12

Post 116 just read it and try it.

It's no fix only a temp solution and you will lose you Highspeed connection.

So you will have to make a choice, Do i want High Speed internet or do i want that all my sms/mms will be sent for sure.

Remember this is only a temp solution, i don't have the fix for this.

And for people begins to Yell i have tried this before.

This option is NOT the option in de Sms Service, This one is a totally different one.

It change the Band/Frequency of the phone.

We have here 7 HTC Leo's all with this problem, but after this change all sms will be directly sent and noting hangs in the outbox.

So just give it a try.

And for the diehards over here, Don't Let my Postcount fool you in thinking... what a NOOb ;-)

Just try it, if it works for you, you can be a little bit happy, of not just switch back to you old settings.

Greetzing Confusion.
[HD2 General] nadderf:
If everyone say to HTC that they will make a complaint if an Hotfix is not available soon, maybe then HTC will make this high prioerty!

Don't want to choose between 3G/H and sms even if that solution is working. Won't try =)
[HD2 General] Noam23:
It is *not* a Manila/Sense bug.

I'm running my HD2 with Manila *disabled* (using Mobile Shell 3.5), and have this problem.

The problem is with the "HTC Messaging" application. Once I've disabled it (using the cab from the link below), problem was solved.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=556614
[HD2 General] weareborg:
With due respect if a tem fix includes knocking off the high speed internet connection of my 550 euro device. thats just a bad, bad joke. Try explaining to your non techie friends that your expensive slab of screen cannot send a simple text message. Embarrasing. Its about trust. Trust in HTC, trust that the software will work. Trust in the platform. Right now there is zero trust in all of the above and thats not good. How utterly stupid that users have to 'tweak', 'mod' and do other technical backflips to make a fundamental phone element work. HTC, if you are reading this, and I hope you are, this needs to be solved immediately for your credability as a phone manufacturer to remain intact.
[HD2 General] maninatrix:
Well, I think this is my first post here at xda-developers :)

Regarding the SMS Problem: I have been experiencing similar Issues on several cellphones with SMS and my provider T-Mobile. One thing always helped, also on my Leo now:

- open settings tab in Manilla

- wireless controls

- phone

- then Menue at the bottom bar

- extended settings

- scroll to the right to SMS Service

- there you can select GSM

By using this you will have SMS delevired instantly and you also will NOT have to miss broadband at all.

Hope this helps someone :)

Regards
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
this was suggested on the previous PAGE, you dont have to search far to see other people have been suggesting this and it DOES NOT HELP
[HD2 General] ZekeWolf:
I have the same problems with menus in other language, though not Russian, rather Czeska or similar.

Today I experienced the sms problem for the first time, after 2 weeks of use.

I love how easy they make it for a user to report/log a problem! Gah, you need to be an engineer to report a problem.
[HD2 General] lentinen:
Same problem here Leo/Swedish/Telia

Also on Leo swedish haven't been able to send a single sms so far. Also there is a fair bit of menus with some sort of cyrillic language.

Another problem that is really annoying is that OTA synchronization has reset once a week since I got the phone which blanks out contacts etc.

/Markus
[HD2 General] Confusion:
The so called temp solution that i'm talking about in the quote, is also only for people who really need the sms for there work or something like that or that there sms is more important than internetspeed for the moment untill htc comes with a fix

for example, we over here on the road we need to verify our orders with a code send in a sms to the central system. so we really need the sms.

And yes we are all waiting for HTC to Fix this problem.

And also we and our company has contacted HTC with this problem.

So lets all Hope That HTC will Fix this Problem really quick:)

Greetz Confusion
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
I got this email from them today
[HD2 General] rinobed:
SMS Problem

Hello everybody!

. Same problem here:

. Voda IT, WWE standard ROM

. No particukar tweaks

I am experiencing this problem since the very beginning, s I do not feel it os related to any particualar installation I did, it looks like a software bug.

I am not able to see any particular pattern, it seems someway realated to the internet connection, however I cannot leave my 3G (??temporary solution??) having the company Vodafone Mail installed.

.... only waiting for HTC to finally move?? .....
[HD2 General] DiscoDave2009:
So after some playing the logic seems to be for me (Voda UK) that once I connect to Wireless AP I lose the ability to send SMS. I've already set it to "GSM ONLY" (as opposed to preferred) and the only way to clear out the messages is to disconnect and turn off WiFi, reboot the handset and then send an SMS to a number starting 0044 (rather than +44) which will send and clear out the rest of the Outbox.

Whether this works overseas I don't know but from that point it seems to work until I turn on WiFi again.

Hope this helps.
[HD2 General] spaanplaat:
I mailed them too about the problem and received this mail.
[HD2 General] nadderf:
Everyone get this replay from HTC!
[HD2 General] edved:
I've had my phone for 3 days and this seems to be a widespread issue. I reside in the Middle East, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia to be specific and I have too encountered this SMS errors! Hope they fix this soon.

I've checked the HTC website several times and still no resolution being offered at this time.
[HD2 General] tsttse:
no problem here in Hong Kong and I haven't seen any reported problems in the HK forums... *touch wood*
[HD2 General] Belynda:
I rang Vodafone today, after trying various solutions all of which have been suggested on here they told me to go back to the shop to exchange.

To top it all my 16 GB card decided not to work anymore, tried another 2 gb card and that works.:mad:
[HD2 General] hazem77:
i had this problem, but aftering making the band manual to GSM i did not have it for the last 5 days. a temporary fix untill HTC releases a fix.
[HD2 General] Archer:
After 2 and a half weeks of flawless use, my HD2 has just started exhibiting this annoying problem.

Over the weekend I had 6 messages in my outbox which wouldn't go anywhere. A couple of them were really important too!

I've done the "fix" that turns off HTC Messaging, and it works perfectly now. Just a shame that we have to turn off one of the nicer features of the GUI to make my £500 phone function as well as one I could buy from Tesco for £10, with £10 of airtime on it!

I hope HTC pull their finger out on this one.
[HD2 General] Noam23:
What amazes me more than all is that even though it's easy to see from this thread that the problem is solely because of the "HTC Messaging" app, most people in this thread still don't get this and come up with their own strange explanations.

This whole thread could have been reduced to one simple sentence: "If you have trouble with sending SMS, disable the "HTC messaging" app. and wait for HTC's hot-fix".

And now let's go back to hearing ignorant explanations to why this problem occur and how it's impossible to solve it...
[HD2 General] nadderf:
How to disable HTC messaging?
[HD2 General] Noam23:
Use this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=556614
[HD2 General] Archer:
Heh - I find it funny how people are comparing networks and times of day etc.. I totally agree with you, especially since the fix actually works, albeit more of a workround than a fix.

Hopefully, HTC will do a recall so that they can fix the antenna. It's obviously the reason that I can't send any SMS messages ;)
[HD2 General] nadderf:
Is it possible to read sms in threaded mode even after this?
[HD2 General] Noam23:
As far as I know, no. I'm using Vito SMS-Chat in order to do it.
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
yes - winMo 6.5 default messaging client supports threaded/conversation view.

However - disabling HTCs messaging app hasnt totally solved my problem. i can now send ok, but every once in a while it still fails to receive a message (which is much harder to detected - its only when someone rings me pissed off i realised its not received a message!). it also occurs MUCH less frequently than the sending bug, but im a very heavy texter
[HD2 General] nadderf:
Thats bad! Are more people having that problem to receive sms?

HTC really needs to fix this now ! I thinking of returning my phone !
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
like i say, its thankfully pretty rare anyway, but also its very hard to tell you haven't received a message!

it was only when i didnt reply to 3 of my mothers messages she phoned me to check i was was still alive!
[HD2 General] nadderf:
Is sending working to 100% after disabled HTC messaging app? So i could disable delivery reports?
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
as far as i can tell, yes :)

plus you can actually see clearly if it sent or not (it highlights in red if sending fails- which is normal behaviour)
[HD2 General] Noam23:
Yes. Before disabling, the sending problem happened 100% of the time. Now after disabling, it happens 0% of the time.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Heh. If it works 100% of the time, how do you know if highlights in red if sending fails ;)
[HD2 General] speedracer13:
Optus Australia here, Totally stock ROM,tried Vodafone AU and also Telstra and still the problem is there..:(
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
because sending can fail for other reasons - like not having a cellphone signal ;)

plus it wasnt me who said 100% of the time :P
[HD2 General] nadderf:
How to ad a shortcut to sms in startmenu? Now i only have a link to HTC messaging
[HD2 General] kwanying:
Diff sms problem, anyone know how to display other language font in sms?

My HD2 is asia english but it won't display thai font or other font but only english.
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
you would be better off starting a thread asking that question rather than diverting this thread away from the main issue we are discussing.
[HD2 General] bababa:
sorry then. worked for me...
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
you dont have to heave read all 25 pages of it... but you should at least read a couple of pages !

This has been suggested about 3 times so far - and DOES NOT WORK
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
Don't worry, Setting it to GSM Only seemed to work for me so far too :) We'll see how long it lasts.
[HD2 General] ijob:
As of today, a hotfix is being worked on. Keep an eye on the HTC support website was the advice from HTC today.

I assume now that they have pinpointed the SMS problem.
[HD2 General] utvol06:
just got my HD2 today SMS does not work at all sending or receiving.:mad::mad:

Tried hard reset, sim boots, changing mms settings, etc.

Everything works on this phone, but the SMS. This is another let down from HTC I'm about 2 seconds from switching back over to my iphone. This headache is not worth it. It's funny how the iphone is such a worry free and simple device, yet does 99.9% of what a windows phone can do.

I'm going to try searching for a fix a little while longer and then i'm going back to my trusty iphone 3gs with no issues ever.
[HD2 General] utvol06:
I hope so...if they issue a fix within a couple days I will hold off on switching back to my iphone.