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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kuifje_xda-developers:
Hi,

I tried to download (on my mobile) a piece of the map, level 7 to 11. In all a bit more than 1300 tiles. I noticed that some tiles experienced an error, and that up-to 3 retries were done. That's a very nice feature!

However, a couple of the tiles didn't even succeed after 3 retries, the program asked whether I wanted to save anyway.

Trying out the map, i found that only level 7,8, and 9 worked. Is that because of the error? If so, i suggest that simply instead of a missing tile, a white square is shown.

greets

Kuifje
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
If you saved the Navi zip and extracted the Navi Setup file, you can run it on as many computers as you like. Without Active Sync connected, it just won't install it on a device. Within the Navi Directory, there is a CAB file that can be used to install the PC app to a device if you do not have the active sync available.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] krups:
This is amazing app! It is working great on my diamond!

I wished it can be used with google maps, because maps of Indian cities are not well described in OpenStreetMap. Nevermind this is great app.

Thanks NaviComputer for sharing your hard work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bill340:
Would be so great, if you could add multitouch-zooming for the HTC HD2!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] seppi_eat_world:
superb program!

Hi,

I want to thank you for this wonderful program. I think it will be future running mate since it's more intuitive to use as run.gps, (and autonames when saving gpx files them with the date) and it's not overfilled with stuff.

It's sad you had to remove the Gmaps support for this program but I understand your decision, when it's against google's politics, and for sure google is an enemy nobody would like to fight against. OpenStreet map is great, and hopefully people use their recorded data to complete OSM

I kindly ask you for some minor improvements:

- you could make an options dialog which will let you choose if the program is started with "online mode" on or off.

- same with gps - please make an option dialog to start the program with gps turned on

- some more data displayed on the record window: like total the height meters you already ran/drove.

Keep up the good work!

Donating now 3 Beers (or coffees) too keep you motivated to continue the great work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ne0n:
Hi,

first: Great program!

I download your program and just test it. It works, but I have a few questions and a few improvement suggestions.

Questions

I select a map with the NaviMapper (Zoom level 10-17) and the estimated file size was ~1GB. But the map is only ~400MB big. Is this right? I can't test it, because it is the map for NY where I will go in a few days.

improvement suggestions

I will use the app also for gps tracking to merge the gps data with my photos. For that it is very important to have a working gps tracking system. Normally I use the KDR GPS Tracker but your app is a little bit better (respectively will be better in the future ;) ).

I test you app for that and I recognizance some mistakes:

1. The GPS data is written to the gpx file when I stop the tracking. When the apps crashs or the TaskManager closed the app while I go to the homescreen, all the data is lost :-(

It would be better, when you create the gpx file first and then write the gps data to the file (during the tracking). When the apps close, we doesn't lose all data.

2. When a new track starts, the user will have the choise to use a old gpx file or create a new. If the filename (date) is already used, extend it automatically with a number (like 091228-1.gpx)

3. Whats about the battery life? Afaik the battery is in heavy use, when the phone must display/render the map. The gps trackings doesn't effect the battery life so much. Is this right? How you app handle this? I can't test it jet. When I'm under way with may camera I'm tracking the route all the time (the whole day) So it would be great when the app doesn't use so much battery when I'm only tracking the route.

4. Standby: As point 3, it would be great when I send the phone into standby and the app will track the route. It is working now, but I don't know what's happen when the phone is in stand by for a long time. Maybe the taskmanager will kill the process. It is possible to mark the process as "important" so the taskmanager doesn't kill it? I use the EnergyRom and the TaskManger kills the apps often (afaik it is the taskmanager from the SE Experia).

5. You write, that the app choose the right map automatically. This is great, but it would be nice, if I can choose a map, so I can view it without being there ;)

Your app is great and I hope you don't mistake my improvement suggestions. I will only help you to improve the app ;) If you will finish the hints until thursday, it would be greate ;) So I can use your app for my holiday and spend you a beer ;D

regards,

ne0n

P.S. Where are you from? I think you are from Europe. My English is bad (see the text above ;) ). So if you from Germany, we can talk about further functions. If you want...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ne0n:
I can't import gpx files that I export with bing maps. I mark some points and create a few waypoint and export it to a gpx file. But it isn't possbile to load the data. Also when I create a new Track but doesn't move my cellphone. After saving this track it isn't possible to load the track.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NaviComputer:
Hi ne0n,

If you got a "successfully" message in the end, it is right. The size varies much depending on map source, map area etc. The displayed estimated size is sometimes very rough.

If you switch to track statistics view, the map will not be rendered. Anyway, the most battery draining thing on most devices is the gps receiver itsself... Compared to other gps applications, I have experienced very good battery life with NaviComputer.

NaviComputer keeps tracking in standby. I think if your device closes the app automatically, you should consider buying a new phone (just kidding;) ) Seriously, try to close all other apps, NaviComputer doesn't need to much memory so I think there is no reason to auto-close it.

I don't know the gpx capabilities of bing maps. Please notice that you need a track segment (trk) in the gpx files, not only waypoints. (waypoints will be supported in next versions...)

If you do not move your phone, you won't get a track because a track needs more than one point ;)

I have read all of your other suggestions but don't have time to answer all of them in detail right now. Some of them are already on the todo list.... :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ne0n:
I think also that the taskmanager is the problem. But I thought that there is maybe a option to add a high priority to the process, so no taskmanager will close the app.

Here is a part if the bing gpx file

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<gpx xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" version="1.1" creator="Bing Maps" xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1">
<metadata>
<name>New York</name>
<desc>Sehenswürdigkeiten</desc>
</metadata>
<wpt lat="40.75268200529633" lon="-73.99369086857263">
<name>New Yorker Hotel</name>
<desc />
</wpt>
<wpt lat="40.75890049338341" lon="-73.97904485464096">
<name>Rockefeller Center, NY</name>
<desc>Subway: B, D, F, Q bis Rockefeller Center</desc>
</wpt>
...
<rte>
<name>Bedford Ave</name>
<desc>Szenenviertel</desc>
<rtept lat="40.66328926744247" lon="-73.96088399209594" />
<rtept lat="40.66377756845491" lon="-73.95376004495239" />
<rtept lat="40.652448064383336" lon="-73.9526442460022" />
<rtept lat="40.65215503444413" lon="-73.9590386322937" />
<rtept lat="40.652187593389804" lon="-73.95929612435913" />
<rtept lat="40.66328926744247" lon="-73.96088399209594" />
</rte>
...

And if I don't move my phone, it is a POI ;)

When we can expect a new version? It would be real great, if you can add the features until the next days ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
From what I understand from the developer, this capability should be coming out in one of the next versions.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] seppi_eat_world:
+1 for all the improvement suggestions from neOn.

Especially the autosave gpx while recording would be great (let's say every or every 5 minutes). I lost a two hours track yesterday when the application was closed somehow after taking a photo with the camera.

Just curious: When do you expect the next update being released?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vernoncomph:
sms

does version 0.8 has the ability to send current gps location via sms/email?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] m_mobiel_htc:
Hi NaviComputer,

Great program.

Haven't really had the change to try your program outdoors yet. Just been playing with it at home. I want to use it for hiking but I can't load GPX file it says "GPX file not supported".

I read that in the next version way point will be supported, don't know if that is the problem with the GPX file I try to load.

I attached the GPX file maybe you can have a look at it.

Thanks for the hard work so far.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bmaceachen:
View downloaded maps

Great app!

Question though, how can I view nmaps that I have downloaded on my PC? I have downloaded a number of maps of my region and favourite routes, but I would like to see what I have already before downloading extra zones.

Good job.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ne0n:
I solve this problem as follow:

Download a Worldmap with a few zoom level. This map is only 10MB big. Then you can zoom into the area where you have the other maps and NaveComputer will switch automatically to the correct map. At the moment there is no other solution to change the maps. NaviComputer loads the needed map.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] frizzone:
some possibile improvement

1) the possibility to the ppc sw to read the maps generated by user: I generated with softwares like compegps or mapcalibrator some electronic maps scanning my paper maps, and I understand I cannot read it with Navicomputer.

2) the possibility from PC to automatically divide in more than 1 " .nmap " file an area. For example I select a big area and the generated file for maximum zoom create a very big file. A button with "divide in x subfiles" could be useful.

congratulations in any casa for the idea
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wielandp:
GPX display wrong

I have a gpx track from a routing software with a long distance between points sometimes. This displays only correct when all points are visible.

Mostly parts are missing if start or end is outside the display.

Sometimes it connects wrong points, when the next point is outside the display and a later point is inside.

I you need, I can make some screenshots.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gorn15:
NaviComputer did not work

NaviComputer did not work on my Windows 7 64bit PC it always crashes at start up.

How can i download with Navi Computer Maps via Internet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Windows 7 x64

Hmm... that's odd. NaviComputer works perfectly on my win 7 x64 pc. I just downloaded it and ran it, and it worked. I am downloading maps right now :)

Thanks for the great software!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NaviComputer:
New Version

Hi Guys,

I have just released a new version 0.8 R2

This version does not contain major new features such as POI (new features will come in version 0.9...)

It's mainly a bugfix/stability improvement.

Especially interesting for those who want to go skiing soon: OpenPisteMap download should work now.

I have also implemented one of your recent suggestions:

If the application was closed unintendedly while recording a track, it is possible to continue this track after restart without loosing all trackdata.

Full changelog is in the first post or on the new NaviComputer website
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] maff90:
thanks for the update just what i needed :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ne0n:
Great! Have you a idea, when you will publish v0.9?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DW!:
Hmmm, why is there no .cab-file available for download?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] windowz65:
NaviComputer,

Great Job!

It should be 0.81 or something like this, if it is just bug/stability fix or 0.9 RC2, if new features introduced, but some options maybe not work properly.

You already released 0.8, so Release Candidate is in the past...;)

maybe 0.8 New Year Edition??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NaviComputer:
yea, you are right:D This is confusing:eek:

Let's call it v0.8 R2 (R for revision or release - whatever you like most);)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cynic:
navimapper not working

i have windows xp sp2

dot net 3.5 sp1

what else do i need? it starts and then just stays kind of frozen.. :'(

and is it still possible to edit the mapsource.xml with the google map server settings? how?

thanks a lot, love this app!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ablaoubla:
i try to install the software to my xperia and it says tha this is a not valid application!whats going on??please help m:confused::confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] amir13:
direct me to Desktop Software of NaviMapper

:confused: where is the desktop software? i want to download maps for my WM, the only software i found is the WM version, http://navicomputer.com/download.php
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NaviComputer:
cynic: What about your internet connection? Are you using a proxy? Any firewall which blocks the app to access the internet?...

ablaoubla: Probably .NET 3.5 is missing.

amir13: The downloadable setup installs both, the Desktop and the mobile software.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ablaoubla:
where can o get this .NET 3.5??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ablaoubla:
i found the net 3.5 but i cant install it to my xperia!what should i do??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] graham.ball@europe.com:
Hi,

I've downloaded a detailed map of Singapore to use when I go out there in a few weeks time.

I centre Singapore on the world map, but when I zoom, nothing happens.

I can't use the 'centre on GPS' option, because I'm not there yet.

How can I check that this is going to work when I get there ?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
Graham,

You are centering the world map over Singapore, but as you said, Navi does not know you are there, and so it cannot load the proper nmap file.

If you properly used the NaviMapper as per instructions, then it shoulld work fine.

If you are concerned, download a local map and try it. If you do downoad the local and Singapore maps the same way, then Navi will have no trouble loading the right map set wehn you get to Singapore.

PS: Make sure that when you set up your tiles (zoom levels) that you have some of the larger zoom levels included (6-7-8). If NAVI DOES NOT SEE THE GENERAL AREA, it will not zoom down. Your trying to find the head of a pin on a world map! This means that if your "centering of the gps" is not exactly within the tiles you downloaded, Navi will not zoom down beyond zoom level 3 (default).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
Can you please explain what you mean by "cant install it"?

Did you try and the installation failed?

Do you lack active sync or equivalent to get the file onto the device?

Is the Net 3.5 file in a zip, CAB file or exe file format?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
Amir,

If you downloade NaviComputer setup file, THAT is the file you use to install it on your PC. Within the Navi directory once it is on your PC, you will find a CAB file which you transfer to you device (if you don't have Active Sync or similar) and run it. The CAB file installs it on your device.

When I installed Navi with Active Sync, the setup file installed it on both the PC and device by itself.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
What difference does it make? We know that it is an updated file.

V.9 is not ready yet.

It is more important that the developer continues with his work. Let's not get too picky with what he calls the files.

:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
Recommendation

Duplicated post....removed.

See next.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
Recommendation

I did not see these yet in the thread but it might be a nice feature for a later version.

Wish List:

1. Can we have Navi go "track up or north up" instead of having the arrow travel along the map in all directions. It would make it easier to use for situational awareness.

2. With any new update, have all version numbers reflect the "Build number" as well. This makes it easier for a user to insure they have the latest build within a revision.

Ex: Recently .8 was updated to .8R2 but the About screen still shows .8 along with a build number.

Unless the update file bears the Build number (or it is listed on the website), the user cannot verify if they have the correct file installed.

Just some thoughts. :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Leonida:
GPX file not supported

Hi,

thanks for the nice program :)

I've been found the same problem of the quote. Just to exclude a wrong gpx file I've been generated a gpx directly by recording a new track with NaviComputer and even in this last case nothing to do, the "self generated" gpx file has not been imported properly, always the same message "GPX file not supported". Some one can help me? It exists some tricks or workaround or it is simply a bug? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] graham.ball@europe.com:
Downloaded local tiles.

Spent 10 minutes outside in sub-zero with searching 0(6) and nothing happened. I fired up Gpstest and it got a fix in 15 seconds.

So, I restarted NaviComputer and it then got a fix too!

Zoomed in exactly as you said it would - great!.

Thank you.

BTW a wish list item. Can it remember the last folder I downloaded a map to. Having to navigate every time is a pain.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
GRAHAM

Graham,

You should not have to navigate to the folder containing your map set if it was placed into the Maps folder under Navi. The app will find the correct set of maps dependent upon where it determines you are located.

Example: Under MAPS folder, I have StLouis.nmap as a map set, and in the same folder, NewYork.nmap as another. Navi knows which set to load based upon my Lat/Long coordinates.

The only time you may need to switch anything is if you prefer a different map source such as Open Street Maps vs. Google Maps (oops! :D), or other. One source may have better maps for an area than another.

You switch these by using the Context Menu (press down on your screen until a menu pops up.) Choose Map Set and select which map source you want to use).

I hope this information helps you.

Oh, and your welcome! :D

:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] amir13:
NaviComputer setup file

of course I installed the NaviComputer setup file from my pc to my htc(with only global small map), and i do not find it on my pc? under what name should it appear? I double checked my program files...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] graham.ball@europe.com:
Sorry, didn't make myself clear; I meant Navimapper.

Other mapsources intrigues me. Do you mean to say that you can read, say, Maptech Memory Map files as well?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khvahik:
Navicomputer in HD2

Great job,

its working great in HD2, but i have the "keyboard icon" instead of the circular button in between of "FULL SCREEN" and "MENU" buttons, so i can not use "center GPS position", "online mode" and other options in this page.

would you please tell me how can i activate this options.

Thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zinconnu:
Can anyone post the .cab file of the last update please ? I've a problem with ActiveSync, and the .exe don't want to install the app on my computer. :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Winggie:
Dude, u r missing the point here. It's not about being picky, it's about being on the same page. Versioning helps in helping others who might be facing trouble. I can say that I am running version .08 and can't install any maps but you would never know if it's version .08 old or version .08 new. The reason the IT industry follows versioning in the number format is because it's easier to keep a history of each release without confusing letters like "a" or "b" or "c". I understand that NaviMapper is doing his best in giving us a bug-free product but this is a little thing that would go a long way in providing support.

@NaviMapper, mate if you can come up with Click Once Deploy, then people don't have to worry about versioning. More info on 'Click Once Deploy' can be found here

If you need any kinda help, mail me and I will do my best to help ya...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ablaoubla:
its ok i installed everything!!!awsome software!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zinconnu:
Can you post your .cab file please?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nkawtg:
Here you go.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
On your PC, it should appear under your local disc whidh is usually the C: drive, then Program Files and it is called NaviComputer.

On your device, it depends on where you stored it. The file will normally come up on the screen to install on the Device, unless you selected Storage card.

You can try to search your PC for the navicomputer.exe file

On the device, check your storage card under Programs.

Hope this helps.

QA
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
If you touch and hold on the screen for a second, a Context Menu will appear showing you those functions.

:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] qanda6900:
At the moment, I don't think you can do it. I believe the developer wanted to give users the versatility to save the map sets to where they want. Many save to their PC but with Active Sync or equivalent, you can download directly to the device. It should not be difficult for the developer to create a default folder under the NaviCompute directory, and still leave the user with the option to store the map sets elsewhere.

Why don't you recommend that option to the developer? Not a bad idea.

As for Maptech, I am not sure in what format they have their maps. Here is an excerpt from the Navi Computer website:

6. What's the secret behind NaviMapper "MapSources.xml" file? How can I add map sources?

Each mapsource consists of a <MapSource /> Node within the MapSourceList Tags.

Each mapsource node needs at least two attributes:

ID: The name of the map. This will be shown in the program. Generally you can enter what ever you want. However, some (of the predefined) IDs will be treated specially in the program, so you should not change the ID of the default map sources.

Server: The server from which the map tiles shall be downloaded. The address must be entered without http:// at the beginning and with / at the end. Path of the tiles on the server must follow the standard OSM rules. (server/zoom/x/y.png, size 256x256).

Here is an example:

<MapSource ID="OpenCycleMap" Server="c.andy.sandbox.cloudmade.com/tiles/cycle/"/>

To make it easier, I will modify the xml file to reflect the addition of Maptech. What you will need to do is add in the server address where indicated. You should be able to get it easily by watching the connection you make to the site when downloading maps.

Open up the Navi directory, find the xml file and save it under the new name xmlORIG. This way if the new xml does not work, you can switch them back simply by deleting the one modified, renaming the xmlORIG to xml and putting it back.

Ok, here goes"

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>

<root>

<Proxy Address=""/>

<MapSourceList>

<MapSource ID="OpenStreetMap" Server="tile.openstreetmap.org/"/>

<MapSource ID="OpenStreetOsm" Server="tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/tile/"/>

<MapSource ID="OpenCycleMap" Server="c.andy.sandbox.cloudmade.com/tiles/cycle/"/>

<MapSource ID="OpenPisteMap" Server="openpistemap.org/tiles/contours/"/>

<MapSource ID="MaptechMap" Server=".....add download server address....."/>

</MapSourceList>

</root>

AS you can see, I have a few different map sources in my xml file.

QA
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zinconnu:
Thanks a lot! :)