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[HD2 General] Leechoonhwee:
1.66.707.1 solved the problem

Hooray! Finally the latest asian rom update solved my problem once and for all! I had been running the rom since first release until now and no sms stucked and no reset at all ever since installed.
[HD2 General] cocks17:
Noticable on the 1.66 update is when yu go to Settings > All setting > connections> Advanced network> SMS tab the default for message sending is GSM preferred compared to GPRS preffered on all roms previous (1.43, 1.48, 1.61). I also notice that when you first turn on the phone the texts's say GSM next to them??

What ever it is, ASIAN 1.66 has fixed it. Now 5 days in using it and all is working great compared to 4 times a day doing a soft reset and getting stuck! Finally!Thank F#@k! Its probably more than just a setting to GSM preferred as I tried that some time back on 1.48 and 1.61. Just interesting to note.
[HD2 General] mofei1:
This rom has been fantastic so far. No more sms's getting stuck in the outbox, Weather app updates properly now, no more issues with windows live messenger, emails now receive as they arrive (hotmail), volume rocker actually adjusts the audio in youtube and video player. so far so good! I was so close to going back to the iphone but now i love my HD2 :)

Slight negative is the battery doesnt seem to last as long as 1.61 but given the fixes in 1.66, i'm not bothered one bit.
[HD2 General] oliie:
I have been running the 1.66 released by HTC on my Asian model phone for a couple of days now. I am a heavy business user of the phone.

It seems that SMSes are no longer getting stuck...

...BUT on my phone I notice that once in a while the phone gets really slow. I tried to call someone this morning and the phone menu would not come up. I reset the phone and when I pressed the 'talk' button the phone did nothing visually, but the number I was trying to dial was ringing. Very strange. This happens only after I update my phone with my historical SMSes (2500+). Not sure if it is related, but could still be an intermittent issue handling all the many SMSes.

I've since delted all my SMSes and the phone runs very smoothly. Will hust have to ensure I delete the SMSes I don't want a little more diligently to keep it running optimally.

O.
[HD2 General] mooooooa:
I've got the Danish 1.66 rom. It's pretty fast and stable, and sms fix is gone.. But now i faced another issue. When I browse @ Opera for a while, then sometimes the "back" button stops to work. Nothing happens when clicked at, and the "back" hardware button only takes one back to manila start screen. A reset is necessary for opera to work again.. Hmm..
[HD2 General] Bone4Life:
I just got this back from HTC in order to fix (?) the SMS problem...

However, I already read about users having the same problem WITH this setting...

I will stop trying to mail HTC and hope for a quick release of the new ROM on the HTC site for dutch users.

----

Hi,

To resolve this problem on your phone try the following:

Tap Start, settings, menu, all settings, connections, advanced network, sms. Set this option to "GSM", not "gsm preferred".

Send a test message, the outbox should clear straight away. if not contact us back.

Best regards,

...

HTC
[HD2 General] buncanny:
Hum. Is it just me or is the ROM-update removed from the support site? I can't find it on there anymore.

dk - support site.

I installed yesterday and it was there. Maybe theyfound out it didnt fix anything, and pulled it straight away? :P
[HD2 General] drpuma:
Same here! To my great pleasure the SVE ROM was outed this morning, tried to download, said "page not found" and now it's gone again. I must say, HTC's greatest feat is their knack for pissing people of, fixing problems and doing their job.... not so good. Really getting tired of this I can tell you....

Mailed HTC- support this morning, let's see what the reply is:mad:
[HD2 General] mooooooa:
The danish one (also spanish and norwagian one) is here:

http://www.htc.com/dk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=856

Sweden + french one here:

http://www.htc.com/se/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=856

The two links contains:

Norway:1.66.409.1, Spain :1.66.412.1,Denmark:1.66.403.1,France :1.66.406.1,Sweden:1.66.413.2
[HD2 General] novalistic:
The Link still there . . . Is it a broken link?
[HD2 General] urbock23:
HTC Italian support site removed it too :mad:
[HD2 General] L_o_k_i:
@mooooooa

Thanks a lot for the french link!!!
[HD2 General] arxx:
HTC might have messed up. 1.48 is just released in Sweden, would be strange if 1.66 came a couple of days later.

Maby HTC put the 1.66 rom in the wrong place, like the link in the quote shows, the ROM is for Norway, Denmark and Spain... i can not find it on the Norwegian site, so it might be misplaced
[HD2 General] drpuma:
Yes, the link is broken, you can't download this! What the h*LL are they doing!?
[HD2 General] drpuma:
But the 1.66 update is for fixing the SMS-problems, making it VASTLY prioritised!
[HD2 General] drpuma:
Svar från HTC nu:

Tack för din förfrågan gällande HTC HD2

I nuläget har vi bara information om att det kommer en uppgradering inom ungefär en vecka, om den varit upp snabbt och sedan bort tagits är det endast för att dom testar uppladdnings processen på våran hemsida eller liknande, vänligen fortsätt hålla koll på htc.com då uppgraderingen kommer finnas tillgänglig när den är redo.

Vänliga hälsningar,

Dennis M

HTC

In short: for sve rom there will be update in a week. If it has been on the homepage it's just because they are "testing" the upload functions.... bloody amateurs!
[HD2 General] buncanny:
Bah. My hopes for windows mobile 7 is that we don't need the customization from HTC anymore - HTC Support sucks so much is hard to even describe.

Anyways. Please let my SMS problem be gone with the 1.66 rom! *fingers crossed*
[HD2 General] mooooooa:
World Wide English - TEST rom (WWE) 1.66.405.1 - Direct Link

South East Asia (Asian WWE) 1.66.707.1 - Direct Link

Arabic-English (ARA) 1.66.415.3 - Direct Link

Denmark: (DAN) 1.66.403.1 - Direct Link 1 2

Sweden: (SVE) 1.66.413.2 - Direct Link

Norway: (NOR) 1.66.409.1 - Direct Link

France: (FRA) 1.66.406.1 - Direct Link

Spain: (SPA) 1.66.412.1 - Direct Link

[From: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=623283]
[HD2 General] smooth.dangerous:
It doesn't change anything for me, messages still stuck in outbox, even if I install the cab which allows to disable HTC Messaging. So what's wrong with my WinMo?

Could someone help me? More than 1 month without sending SMSes... :(
[HD2 General] arxx:
Still after upgrading to 1.66 ROM?

Change your SIMcard?

Did you also edit the registry? and not only installed the .cab?
[HD2 General] tfouto:
Which ROM do you have? people are saying that ROM 1.66 solves ths sms-stuck bug.
[HD2 General] uu_26:
SMS cure

I have had the same issue with SMS going into the outbox and have had to have delivery reports turned on to moniter.

When I spoke to Vodafone the first time they sent me an email to re register the sim card, which I think has already been explained and that sorted out the problem.

Been ok for a couple of months, but yesterday had same problem with SMS stacking up in my outbox and not sending. I tried re registering the sim 4/5 times but no joy...

I called Vodafone CS again, and she said that this is very common on SonyErricson handsets and said if I put the phone into offline mode, went to my outbox deleted the messages and then turned offline (airplane mode) off and resent the messages from your deleted items box, and although sceptical, it worked!!!

Id be interested to know if this works for anyone else, and interesting that it is a big problem on SE phones!
[HD2 General] wampots:
I am in the UK and have not yet loaded the 1.66 update as this does not yet appear on the HTC UK support page.

Am i missing something or is the uk version of 1.66 not yet available?
[HD2 General] paulking:
not for us...:(
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
yeah but with a little reading youcan find a WWE (world wide english) version. someone has cooked up. check my sig do a great one. why wait for htc to pull their finger out their asses?
[HD2 General] Anby:
I've installed 1.66 french and will see.

BTW, has the task manager been removed or moved from Parameters/Others, I don't see it anymore, I had it there on 1.43.
[HD2 General] paulking:
so far so good with 1.66 sent 3 all went straight to sent box :)
[HD2 General] apemonkeyman:
1.66 released for UK

Just been released for UK...

http://www.htc.com/uk/supportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=856
[HD2 General] Anby:
So now, 24hours sending SMS without soft reset, what a change!

Thanks to 1.66! Hurray!
[HD2 General] Elmo-85:
Well 1.66 Sounds like they might have finally cracked a decent ROM version then.

What does 1.66 include in the ROM? I'm still running the Stock 1.48 UK Vodafone ROM, But I'm worried I will loose a lot of stuff thats on the phone at the moment if I Flash it

Has anyone upgraded yet from the Vodafone stock ROM and lost loads of items they had before? (I knwo it can all be re-installed eventually) but its just more hassle.
[HD2 General] Rollmops:
I almost fainted when I saw that dreaded thread pop up again, but it seems it's a false alarm, nobody experienced the bug post 1.66... I'm still reluctant to turn off SMS sent notifications...
[HD2 General] Incanity:
the only update that is mentioned on the HTC for me (dutch) is the 1.45 rom.

does anyone know if the above mentioned 1.66 rom will be available for me, and the rest of Holland?

the sms issues drive me crazy.

thanks.
[HD2 General] ORiZorrie:
I have the exact same problem. They should release it soon. But hell, soon should have been yesterday!
[HD2 General] astennu:
This morning i saw a new update on the http://www.htc.com/europe/ and i think that everyone will like to know and try, me also it's called Update for HTC HD2 – New SMS Function Update and hope that they have fixed the problem whit the sms or who knows. i will try to install it hopefully also other people and we will share the feedback.

One thing that i noticed is this:

"Note: This update is only applicable to ROM version is less than 1.66.XXX.X."

I didn't installed the rom 1.66 cause for the Eastern Europe hasn't been out YET!!!! hope will come a day still hopeing.

I hope this update will work !!!
[HD2 General] arcades:
1.66 ROM doesn't fix SMS problem.

Today I've sent SMS to my girlfriend and it was arrived only after 20 minutes, directly after when she called me.

HTC definitely have programmer who write a crap code and don't understand anything. Crowd of lamers. "BLJADJ pidarasi ebanie!". Already 3 month passed and "HTC HD2" can't send SMS properly! All they can do - produce useless mobile phones in big quantities.

They should hire coders who can make working soft.

1.66 ROM has all previously released hotfixes inside, a bit different sounds. And that's all!

I suggest never buy HTC mobile phones ever, because they can't even provide the very basic mobile phone function - SMS messaging. What a shame!

I am a customer and I don't care that It might be mostly Microsoft fail, BECAUSE

I have bought mobile phone from HTC and paid about 800$ for it.

All that HTC wants - sell more crap mobile phones and they don't care wheather it works or not. Plenty of useless PR company in their updates, where Users never can know what problem there was and what this new Hotfix does.

Why GPL free Linux software always has success ? Because everyone know what the problem is and community solves these problems.

I have tolerated a lot, but when I can't deliver SMS to my girlfriend in time it just makes me mad. What to do then? Do I need to carry another old brick phone which has no problem with SMS messaging?

if You HTC employee are reading this, then you should know: You have contract with Microsoft with software on HTC HD2, then you should f*ck Microsoft about this SMS problem. If it is a fail of your programmers - you should hire experienced codes who can write working code! iPhone never has problems with SMS sending, because Apple makes plenty of hardware and software tests before releasing their product. That's why iPhone is the best selling phone, because it's quality made and Definitely can send SMS!!!

Who will pay for my nerves?

Maybe we all should arrange a big lawsuit against HTC company for compensating moral harm ?
[HD2 General] Starfury:
Confirmed I have also had a stuck message in my outbox this morning on 1.66. I have had 1.66 installed now for 3 or 4 days and this is the first instance of it.

Out of interest have you done any tweaks to the OS? Are you running bsbtweaks 1.6 for instance?

Edit: I have tried all sorts to get this going including..

Changing the SMS Service preferences to GSM only and back to GSM Preferred

Changing the band to GSM only

Airplane mode and back

Disabling HSDPA/HSUPA but cant test that now as reset will clear problem

Disabling HTC Sense

None it makes a difference, I then plug the USB cable in to Activesync it and it doesnt recognise. So whatever is stopping the SMS from leaving also affects Activesync...
[HD2 General] Refusal:
1.66 or disabling HTC Messaging doesn't fix SMS for me

I love this handset, I really do. It's without exception not just the best Windows Mobile handset in form factor and most functionality that I've used over many many years but the best handset full stop.

But ...

I've had a SIM free UK handset for over two months and have had the SMS issue since day one. I've applied every patch and every ROM upgrade to no avail. The 1.66 ROM definitely does NOT fix the problem for me. I have DISABLED HTC messaging (xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=556614) and am just using Win Mo SMS and I still have the problem every single day. Some incoming texts do not arrive and I never receive them. Outbound texts are delayed or never received - even after resetting. I've given up trying to work out the cause - after 9 weeks the variations/permutations are mind numbing and often turn out to be red herrings or irrelevant.

I've rebuilt this phone countless times - I'd estimate about 40 times. That's a lot of wasted time and a lot of annoyance and shows how much I've wanted to make this phone work. I've never edited the registry or installed a tweak cab (apart from disabling sense messaging) - this is broken straight out of the box. Some users say they NEVER get this issue - which leads me to believe there are lemons out there like mine and it's somehow a hardware issue (although I struggle to see how, I admit).

I've done all I can now and give up. The countless hours of wear on the nervous system are too much! I've no faith in this being fixed and will return to my Touch Pro 2 until I decided what to do next. I will have an argument with my reseller today and try and return it under warranty as HTC are taking no responsibility.

Thanks for listening! And thanks to this AMAZING forum - I have been visiting here infrequently over the years and every day since owning this handset ...
[HD2 General] Starfury:
OK it seems that I am also not receiving some SMS's now as well... what the hell? The phone cant be refusing them from the network or they would have come through just now when I did a hard reset, so the phone must have accepted delivery but not listed them, what the hells going on...
[HD2 General] astennu:
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812

So far so good,

it's working

, i've send a bunch of messages and all went straight to forward no more in the outbox, but i have tested this only for 1 day.

The rom installed on my HD2 is 1.48
[HD2 General] Refusal:
1.66 or disabling HTC Messaging doesn't fix SMS for me

Very predictable but no joy whatsover from the reseller (see 3 posts above) - referred me back to HTC. Despite proudly boasting of being an HTC partner and very clued up he claimed to be totally unaware of any SMS issues with the HD2!

I'll send it back to HTC for 'repair' as he says is the procedure and in the meantime switch to another handset.

Has anyone actually sent their handset back to HTC for repair based on this issue and had the issue resolved?? If they will accept returns I imagine they just flash the ROM and send it straight back to you which, as we know, isn't going to solve the problem ...

Cheers,
[HD2 General] mrdec:
Hey Chimp, hows that working out for you so far?
[HD2 General] arcades:
Yes, I have applied almost all BSB Tweaks, because without BSB-Tweaks phone is barely usable.
[HD2 General] Bimme:
k guys, let us help all together to sort that sms problem out.

i still say its no sms problem.

this is what i get:

after some hours of usage (updating weather, browsing web using opera, sms, calls..) the problem start.

i do the following: before doing anything after i wakeup the phone, i open fileexplorer and check if pinch2zoom is working. when its working, everthing is ok and when i write a sms, it will go straight to the sent items.

if its not working, the volume overlay in music tab isnt working too, and im not able to enable bluetooth aswell. in this state, every sms i write will stuck in outbox till i softreset and write one sms to myself or any other person.

so the problem start without sending a sms.

it seems like a process or service in the background crashed, because when the problem start, my phone is unusable for a few seconds up to 20sec. something is slowing down the whole system.

there are still people that dont have this issue. so first they do something different, like not using opera or anything other, or second this is no software issue but hardware related, and htc will have to change hundreds of phones.

come on guys, do you experience the same like me?

edit: ive done several hard resets, flashed the 1.48 rom again... nothing helped.

a friend has the same device, same rom, same radio, same software and no problems. this is why i begin to believe it could be hardware related... Ive installed only few things, and exactly the same programs are working fine on my friends hd2. (20shortcuts, lockscreenfix v4, official hotfixes, bsbtweak1.6 and net3.5)

i use bsbtweak only to tweak the info led and for opera to get visual back and 9tabs and link click without zoom, i checked the owner id, windows settings in startmenu and policies too. thats all...
[HD2 General] Starfury:
Bsbtweaks does install a cache tweak on first run as per the thread on it.

I am thinking that maybe 1.66 does fix the problem but some of the tweaks we have been using to get the phone to work "better" in 1.43/1.48/1.61 may well be breaking something else that then in turn breaks parts of sense.

Whenever I used to get messages not being sent it would be accompanied by other problems as well. Like Activesync via USB wouldn't work, and/or the volume rocker doesnt work as well.

I flashed 1.66 middle of last week and it was fine for a couple days then I started tweaking things and customising it more and then I started getting problems, I had a lockup that seemed to be using all of my CPU, on regular intevals I was getting bad audio quality and the volume rocker didnt work, internet connection dropped out for certain apps but not others. Each time a soft-reset was the only resolution. Then yesterday morning I got a stuck message and I tried a lot of tests (as per above post) but nothing.

I did a hard reset yesterday morning after the stuck message and haven't installed any apps and haven't applied any "tweaks" yet and I am going to see if it stabilises.

Whilst we understand WM6.5 I think there may be some things in the way that Sense works and links in with WM6.5 on the HD2 that we dont realise yet and I "think" that maybe the customising may be causing some of these problems?

Edit: As a side note, I have just read from someone that can make their device lockup by setting Windows Live to collect items "as they arrive" within 15 mins he says (who knows how much mail he gets eh), but when he sets it back to "manual" it doesnt lock up for 2 days. Maybe there are problems with the network stack and resource use? Speculation is great, you can say anything is possibly happening lol
[HD2 General] fyth:
Had the same problem that you mentioned in the 1.48 version with 2.06 Radio. However, the ROM vers 1.66 solved everything and my phone is working flawlessly now. No tweaks added...
[HD2 General] Jammie_1989:
put 1.66 ROM on it 1.48 is buggy with certain phones upgraded mine to a 1.66 base rom not had a problem in over a week.
[HD2 General] SreePillai:
i must say i have been out of the loop on this thread for a few days, coz i thought the new ROM has sorted those problems out, i updated mine on wed. and mine has worked without any issues since. so there are people with devices still not working to spec. ??

in all fairness mine could just be a matter of 'when' and not 'if'..but for my own sake i hope not

P:S I haven't added any tweaks.
[HD2 General] Bimme:
i´d like to upgrade to 1.66 or try the new SMS Hotfix, but both are still not available in Germany. And i don´t want to HSPL cause i still believe it might be a hardware fault and i need to RMA...

I was very happy to not have any of the display problems mentioned in other posts, that the camera is working correctly, and so on. But this Problem is driving me crazy, because i know few people with the same Software (ROM, Radio and Software) who dont have this problem.

If everybody would face this on 1.48, it wouldnt be that hard...
[HD2 General] rzasharp:
This is definitely something to consider. Too many people say ROM 1.66 did solve the problem... Maybe ROM 1.66 actually solves the problem, but some tweaking makes it come back!!! How would you want HTC to solve a problem caused by us tweaking??? I mean, I like BsBTweak and all, but some of you that really get the SMS everyday should start by testing your device this way:

- First of all, flash (or re-flash) your device with STOCK Rom 1.66, just to make sure NO tweak is installed.

- 1st day: ROM 1.66 and absolutely NO TWEAK. If you really had SMS problem everyday and it doesn't appear, then Rom 1.66 solves the problem. Maybe you can try it for a whole week, since the most important thing is to know whether or not Rom 1.66 actually fixes the SMS not sent problem.

- 2nd day: ROM 1.66 + BsB Tweak and default tweaks only

- following days: ROM 1.66 + only ONE tweak each day using BsBTweak...

Hope it hasn't already been tested.
[HD2 General] ageorgiou1984:
Is anyone else still got the problem after applying ROM 1.66?

Had 2 messages stuck in the outbox, ROM was applied on day of release. Running standard software.
[HD2 General] keriim:
im on tmobile...no problems with myn :)
[HD2 General] Refusal:
Another ROM update due soon apparently ... according to HTC

I Spoke to HTC on the phone today. They will not repair/replace the device - their position remains that this is a software issue that they will fixe.

I was told they are aware 1.66 has not fixed the issue and ANOTHER ROM UPDATE higher than 1.66 is due in a maximum of TWO WEEKS.

I must say I've pretty much lost hope ...
[HD2 General] tfouto:
i think that the 1.66 ROM have fixed the problem of stuck sms in outbox. At least to me i never had a problem now. I had lots of time with 1.43. And i dont see almost no one complain about it, compared before with the new ROM. If it wasn't completed fix it should be at least partial and should be now much more rare...
[HD2 General] Refusal:
Believe me, it's not fixed! Glad 1.66 has worked for you but I was sent three SMS this morning which have been lost into the ether never received ... sames goes for outbound SMS during this period. God knows how many SMS messages I have not recieved without knowing ...
[HD2 General] tfouto:
The 1.66 didn't fixed the problem just in my case. There lots of people saying that worked for them too, saying the problem is now gone. So its strange. It would be nice a poll to see the number of people with bug remaing. As i said, maybe the bug is not completed resolved, but it could be half-fixed.

Couldn't this be a carrier problem?
[HD2 General] lanwin:
It seems a lot guys miss the new SMS update for 1.66 ROMs. http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812

And it seems the custom ROM like the Artemis dose not have this issue.