yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 Accessories] the_fish:
hmmm, space shouldn't be the problem ;)

http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/jz19lvt3/CIMG5689.JPG what do you think?
[G1 Accessories] coredalae:
imo, if you do this, make some way to integrate this into a 'fat' back cover (for the extended battery)

would be a great mod imo :)
[G1 Accessories] captinamerica:
there does appear to be room for something but how large is a 3.5mm headphone jack case and wiring? that would be my next question. This would be NICE because i hate the OEM headphones and having to carry around and extra cable sucks.
[G1 Accessories] deepside7:
I've been thinking about this for a while now. It certainly is possible to wire it in, and drill a small hole and make a hardware solution. The problem would be that the phone would always detect headphone mode (or would it?)

I would definately try it. Is there more pictures of the internals of the phone to make sure there is enough space? That was always my concern, and I never really bothered to open it up to check.
[G1 Accessories] rage2wrath:
I agree with the previous guy, the best way to do this would be with the fat back cover.

Imagine taking that out of it's shell and plugging into the bottom of the phone then wrapping it around to the back side of the phone and mounting inside the extended back case. You would just plug everything into the sides of the back.

Or something like that.
[G1 Accessories] Wisefire:
I thought about this awhile back, Not sure how well it would work, if it even would, though.
[G1 Accessories] the_fish:
you shouldn't design your posts as serious as that then.... not funny at all...

anyways, back to topic.... i wanted to check the circuits in order to find a point to solder the 3.5mm box to, since soldering to the usb port is hard as ****. the pins are just too small! don't think anyone knows where those points are on the mainboard... still wanted to post the status...

P.S.: after a while i got so pissed of by checking for that stuff so that i stopped. gonna try again tomorrow :|
[G1 Accessories] alexjzim:
i had an idea towards this. tight fit, but it might work. if u tweek everything to size, it might JUST fit. u could connect the adapter on page 1 to the the g1 inside the phone, replace the current miniusb port with the one from the adapter, and then run the headphone jack out near the battery button, or next to the port. im not sure exactly how big the adapter is, but if its small enough (or if u find one small enough) im sure you could get it to fit, and no soldering or extreme wiring required
[G1 Accessories] code72:
I use this, it's not bad
[G1 Accessories] Bavilo:
If I had a torque that small I'd totally go for it. Wouldn't be that hard. Anyone know the size needed?
[G1 Accessories] goldenarmZ:
It's possible. I had to replaced the surface mounted usb port on my old wizard, which is the same size as the dream one. The trick to tiny jobs like this is to drown the whole area in a big blob of solder, then remove the excess with a piece of solder removal wick... However, I don't think putting a 3.5mm socket in the g1 is remotely plausible. From my experience, even the smallest surface mounted socket is too chunky to fit in there. You might just be able to squeeze a 1.75mm socket in, but thats still going to require an adaptor on the end of your headphones.
[G1 Accessories] dkb218:
Um, how would you charge it after said such mod?

How would download items from your computer?

I know some of you guys are super genius but this seems a tad out the realm of possibility.
[G1 Accessories] deepside7:
Hey that's pretty cool, where did you get that from?
[G1 Accessories] goldenarmZ:
I don't think anyone is talking about removing the usb port... :rolleyes:
[G1 Accessories] bundito:
I looked at this gadget as well. My personal idea was to disassemble it, rearrange the bits, and turn it into a dock. The 3.5mm jack could go almost anywhere that way. The problem is that I have no idea how to cast plastic. I need to dig back through my old MAKE magazines. ;)

-bdto
[G1 Accessories] Joe333x:
where did you get it and how much ?
[G1 Accessories] supersoaker253:
http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=989

google is your friend keke.
[G1 Accessories] f4phantomii:
To make a new back cover? Easily done.

Make a mold from the OEM cover using plaster, clay, whatever.

Once you have the mold made, put a release agent of some sort on it. Grease, wax, anything like that to keep stuff from sticking to the mold.

Get some epoxy. Get some thin fiberglass cloth. Make new back cover.
[G1 Accessories] digitaljeff:
honestly is there a point to this discussion? i purchased a mini-usb to 3.5mm cable from tmobile made by htc for $10. if you dont want the long cable just splice it, much easier than messing with things inside your phone....
[G1 Accessories] Gilliland12:
The point is that some people like to mod their equipment. Just the same as the software. It's fun and can teach you alot about what you are using.
[G1 Accessories] gringo69:
ill just wait till they come out with another phone hehehe
[G1 Accessories] prince.siraj:
yeah... i would do that if anyone has figured out a good way to do that. although i'm more likely to destroy my g1 in the process ;) i've killed my ipod touch 2G using it in the bathroom, my 1st G1 i bricked, now my replacement i hope lasts a little longer... curiosity doesn't kill the cat, it kills the technology that the cat uses :(
[G1 Accessories] digitaljeff:
unless your a computer engineer, it teaches you nothing...except a way to brick your phone. software hacking/programming is a different story than trying to solder/mod something into your phone.

good luck with the project... although i still think its a useless idea when there are countless hardware devices available in the market...
[G1 Accessories] lbsk8addict:
hey

where can i get one of those?
[G1 Accessories] evilkorn:
The link was already given in this thread.
[G1 Accessories] H@OBouget:
So I have the HTC adapter shown earlier in the thread, and I have ordered a 2680mAh battery from ebay (pro.pal)

Quick side note: the battery people are from HongKong but their customer service is beyond fast. I emailed them and had a response in less that an hour.

Then they sent me a "shipped" notice 2 hours after I bought the battery.

Ah the joys of time zones. :)

Anyway, I am looking into buying the housing parts from a local guy who buys up broken phones so I can operate on a dead phone. You'll see why in a sec.

The HTC jack is more housing than parts once you open it up. (see pic)

The part with the LED is the power end of the usb. Plugging the head phone in here does nothing. When it is is hooked up to a charging source the LED lights up (duh)

Quarter for size reference.

The jack was super simple to take apart.

NOTE: semi-reversible damage about to happen.

Look for the seam and shove your fingernail in. The glue is pretty weak and it will start to peal apart. The end near the pig tail slides in at a 90 degree angle!

I got mine off angle and it broke when I took it apart.

Loosen the glue then pull the two parts in opposite directions on a 180 degree line. The retaining part is very thin.

I could repair it with glue and fix it, but I bought it specifically to take apart.

So to heck with it!:p

Given the size of the 2 circuit boards there, I am planning to mount them as seen in the second picture.

I could, in theory do away with the power section from the jack and use the standard usb port.

How? you may ask...

Well that's where this gets fun.

I need to figure out the usb port layout on the daughterboard.

Then I need to figure out the space available.

Then I need to figure out how to run the wires from the jack down inside to the daughterboard.

Then I need to figure out how to solder the wires in with out frying the system.

Hmm seems I still need to do somethings. :D

And for those about to ask...

According to others, the 2680 battery is twice the thickness of the OEM battery.

The OEM battery is 2-3 mm thicker than the jack circuit boards.

As for holding it all in place..I was thinking some hot glue molded around the circuit board and then glued to the back of the internal housing.

That way the battery cover can still come off and you can get to the battery and that sim card.

Thoughts?

Edit: the tape seen in the 2nd pic is to hold everything in place while I took the picture. The Pigtail is kinda heavy compared to the circuit boards and it kept moving things around.
[G1 Accessories] scholbert:
Hi,

nice project :D

Sometime ago i did some hardware mod, to add a 2.5mm Audio jack on HTC Hermes.

Maybe this is helpful to get an idea about the mechanic and soldering ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=422956

Best regards,

scholbert
[G1 Accessories] H@OBouget:
Scholbert - Thanks of the info!

I am curious as to what your used for a soldering iron.

I've found some small ones, but not 26 ga small.

Also what measures did you take to avoid dripping solder if over heated?

Did you have to add solder, or was there enough on the circuit board?

For everyone else -

I can add the following data to anyone planning this operation....

These are based on the housing that headphone jacks came out of. They should provide a nice clean fit - Test before trying any way :p.

3.5mm headphone jack is just under 13/64" I'm using a 3/16 and tweaking from there.

For those of you not on the Greatest measuring system in the world!

[end massive sarcasm]

5 mm. (Actually is between 4.8 and 5.1, but come on! I got you to within .3 of a millimeter it's not gonna matter! :D )

The 2.5 jack is 7/32" dead on (3.988mm)

The HTC port is the screwy one. 9/64" (3.569mm) For STD you'll need to trim - the bit is to small) Metric is possibly right on.

Remember you'll have to square the 3 corners with an exacto knife.

Spacing -

Since we are dealing with 2 circles and a umm HTC, I'm gonna start at the far edge of the 3.5mm and measure back to the far side of the HTC.

STD is WAY not accurate for this. Learn to use mm. No really! I mean it!

(3.5 port[5mm])-6mm-(2.5 port[4mm])-3mm-{HTC[7.25mm]}

For looks, with the way I took the 2nd picture, I would do ...

{Inverted HTC[7.25mm]}-3mm-(3.5 port[5mm])-6mm-(2.5 port[4mm])-3mm-{HTC[7.25mm]}

I have yet to figure out the LED light. It comes up short, and I really don't wanna have to replace it. I might just remove it. I know when the phone is plugged it.
[G1 Accessories] Buennie:
hah

you guys better get some 30 guage wire to use then cos thats gna be a tight fit. Ive soldered psp's and ps3 controls before but the best bet is to just get a tiny bit of solder on the iron and make a quick connection to the soldering point and wires.
[G1 Accessories] tekkitan:
Following this thread. Very curious :)
[G1 Accessories] Fallen Spartan:
MOD EDIT - I've deleted a few posts earlier in thread due to them being either inappropriate or false leadings

Can I remind all to keep language in check and respect others, and also not to post false claims. Any further posts like these will result in a 3-7 day ban depending on severity
[G1 Accessories] :
Shapelock (also sold as FriendlyPlastic). It's moldable after soaking in hot water. At normal temperature it's a hard, sandable, paintable plastic.
[G1 Accessories] 1wayjonny:
I have the device and its the biggest piece of crap ever! It starts to separate the cord from the box because of the weight.

It ways so much after you put the other audio wires in and the usb charger. I am talking for the car mostly I had to plug in 3 wires and it way to much for the cable. At first the cable is stiff but it wears in like 1 year easy.

The wire now makes crazy static and popping noise and it hurts my speakers.

Its a pain in the pain so I opted for that thin wire that came with the g1 with the 3.5 on it. Not sure if it came with older phones but it came it with mine (2 months old)

I use that and screw the battery charging in the car just not to have to use that thing.

Get the thin wire instead its about as spaghetti noodle maybe thinner with a small 3.5 tub on the end. This HTC piece is nice but no charging but it fixes all issues
[G1 Accessories] H@OBouget:
So I got my new battery cover with my 2680 mAh battery, and the spacing is confirmed for a fit.

However, I needed to tighten my screen again so I opened the phone and studied the possible wireing routes.

There are none.

Unless we figure out relocate several other sets of wires, this project is on shaky ground.

The plastic back plate is not a big problem.

The wiring harness from the mother board to the daughter board, and the mother board itself - That's a problem.

There is very little room to go around the edge of the board. Like 2 mm.

If the wiring harness from the adapter could be flatened out then it might be possible. Currently it's round and inside of shielding.

The adapter wires are also not very long. They would need to be lengthened to reach the backside of the usb connection inside the phone.

Then there is the issue of soldering. We need to solder 11 (1mm) wires into a 14 mm area.

While very cool. I have to throw my hands up and call it a day on this set up.

Of course that means, much like on mythbusters, "If that plan doesn't work... can we make it work a different way?"

YES!

It's ugly, but I think it would do nicely.

The HTC adapter can be glued to the back of the battery cover off center, so that the phone will actually sit on its side at an angle.

Not exactly a picture, but just to give you the idea...

_____
/ /
/ /
/ /
/ /---/
/ / /
/ / /
/ /---/

We could plug into the regular usb port on the phone and still have the phone jacks and the charging port from the adapter.

And it would make watching movies easier.

If done right, you could just pop off the battery cover and unplug the adapter as one unit.

Thoughts?
[G1 Accessories] benoitb85:
How will you put it in your pocket ?
[G1 Accessories] calgore:
I've been looking at this for awhile and I've got an idea that would probably only work with an extended back plate but what if you were to mod a HTC usb wire so it was flat to the phone with a wire going into the back plate where the 3.5 jack could be stored? and a different HTC usb port of course
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] zxaptom:
I can install Opera Mini 4.2 but it said error in MiDlet when I run it.

Because I got error on reboot after I try to re install the JVM, now I wonder that It cannot use Opera Mini 4.2 on Alpine? or just my Alpine it broken something?

Please provide current working JVM if any of you can use Opera Mini 4.2 on Alpine.

Thank in advance.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] alieniz:
download JVM from : http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44168&d=1184648983

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44168&d=1184648983

next step: download opera from official site of opera:

http://www.opera.com/mini/

and install it, I recommend a opera mini 5 beta version, because it's a fantastic Web browser :)
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] zxaptom:
Which Opera version you are using?

I try on both generic and XDAII version but both still have error that say "Failed to run the MIDlet"

PS. Thanks for your JVM, now I do not have error on reboot any more.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] kevcal:
Well I did as said in this thread and am now happily running Opera 5 Beta on my XDAIIi. Thanks alieniz! :)

Not bad - just would like more options wrt display.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] alieniz:
after install JVM on your phone, download two files from http://www.opera.com/mini/next/download/ (.jar and .jad files) and copy this files to mydocuments\mymidlets.

Next open JVM, go to menu, where you choose install. Now you should see a icon of opera. Click on this and JVM ask you for permisson to install opera. Install, after few seconds the icon should change for opera's mark. Now you can enjoy internet.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] zxaptom:
I did every step you told but I still got "Failed to run the MIDlet" when run Oprea 5 beta.

Do you have any idea to fix it?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] kevcal:
Have you tried any other midlets ?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] zxaptom:
Oh! other MIDlet does not work too. It show the same error message "Failed to run the MIDlet".

What should I do?:(
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] kevcal:
I'm afraid I have little idea - only a few things come to mind and they may not have any bearing on it; it's just how mine is setup:

1. Are you connected via wifi to the internet (ie does 'normal internet explorer' work?

2. Have you got a hacked rom? I use the deathnoise(?) one.

3. Is your phone unlocked?

4. Do you have enough memory available?

Sorry, I really don't know if any of the above could have any effect and I can't begin to guess what the problem/solution is :(
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] zenity:
I use Opera Mobile 8.65 rather than the java one, never had much luck using anything other than simple java applets on my Alpine.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] zxaptom:
Here are answer

1. Yes, the normal ie work. I am using Opera Mobile 8.65.

2. Yes, I am using "Extended_ROM_v1.11.923_Cooked_PDAMobiz.rar" from here and cooked it by my self to add some app and update to radio. What is the "deathnoise" you are using? Can I have it for a try?

3. I don't know what are you mean but I think its unlocked. I have using this phone over 3 years.

4. I don't know how much memory that Opera mini want. I have around 15M for program which is enough to run Opera Mobile 8.65.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] stuntdouble:
After installing the midlet manager (linked by "alieniz" earlier) on my xda 2i to try to get opera 5 beta working i get a strange corrupt graphics home screen (I'm running the SPB mobile shell software but disabling this doesn't stop it happening). It's extremely annoying. Anyone know how to fix this please? The only way to solve (and when i say "solve", I mean to not be able to use the opera software at all) it that i've found so far is to hard reset and roll back to a previous backup. I've tried lots of other java managers but this is the only one that installs, so i'm hoping that someone knows something that I don't. Picture:

Larger pic here:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2740/4101855704_b29baa5b0a_o.jpg
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] kevcal:
Well if you cooked your own ROM, you know more about this than me(!) :)

Unlocked just means you can use the phone with different providers (ie I have an O2 XDAIIi but use it on Orange), don't think it would have any effect anyway.

The Deathnoise ROM can be downloaded from here - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=306600

Midlet Manager (from "About") -

intent Java Midlet Manager

Copyright 2003 - Tao Group Ltd

Runtime MIDP 2.0 v10.1.2.57 (Build 20040705)

And I am running Opera Mini 5 beta ..

Memory

Total Main 122.04MB

Storage Alloc 61.02MB In use 37.00 Free 24.02

Program Alloc 61.02MB In use 24.45 Free 36.57

Device Info

ROM Version 1.11.00 WWE

ROM date 01/27/05

Radio Version 1.04.00

Protocol Version 1337.42

ExtROM Version 1.11.171 WWE

Hardware

IIntel PXA272

520MHz

128MB RAM

64MB Flash

Flash Chip Type 28F256L18

Data bus 32 bits

Storage Size 59.68MB

LCD 240x320

Colours 65536

Identity

PH10C

Platform PocketPC

IMEI 35... etc

If I go on MIDlet Manager - Menu / Install I get 2 icons - one just says mini (don't know what that is) and one is opera-mini-5,0,15650-... can't read the rest of the filename.

I downloaded both the jad AND the jar to my storage card and installed them from there..

On my storage card I have mini.jad, opera-mini-5.0.15650-advanced-en.jad & opera-mini-5.0.15650-advanced-en.jar

Can't remember how now, maybe just double-clicked on one of them to instal;l; - think it was the .jar file (but I may be wrong).

Don't know what else I can tell you..

Anyone else have any input???
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] zxaptom:
Thanks kevcal for a lot of information. If I cannot use Opera mini with the Deathnoise ROM, I will give up and back to use Opera Mobile 8.65.

stuntdouble

SPB mobile shell is WM5 software. How could you install it in Alpine that cannot use WM5.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] stuntdouble:
SPB Mobileshell v2.1 worked with wm 2003. The newer one 3.5 is the one you're thinking of for wm5+.

I hard reset in the end and installed Hinavigator instead of SPB mobile shell, as I kept getting the corrupt display after installing the java midlet.

If you don't want the midlet then mobile shell works well.

Link here:

http://www.ppclink.com/?ppclink=product&do=view&id=64
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] wasupwithuman:
Mods please delete, hero has been rooted
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lapalways05:
Self-titled. I have cyanogens newest, and it actually reboots outta nowhere with dwang's and i was just wondering why it's doing this.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ToeKnee!:
Mine has done this too but I was running Enoch theme and now I'm on the stock 2.0 theme. It's only done it twice but both times the battery was really low. Was yours?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lapalways05:
no it hasn't it's just when i do regular stuff it boots itself =/
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Binary100100:
does it completely reboot (as in back to the T-Mobile G1 black screen) or does it just go back to the animated Android screen?

There are several possiblities that could cause this from a faulty sdcard to the theme that you are running. Hell... even the battery could cause this.

The only way to be sure is to eliminate the possiblities.

Reformat your sdcard/ext partitions.

Wipe your phone

Reflash the rom

If you still have the same problem then it could even be hardware related.

Difficult to tell without the logcat or last_kmsg file (located in /data/dontpanic directory).
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] softwaretech:
Restarts

I just recently moded my phone to cyanogen on G1. Same issue. It actually restarts itself and then goes into droid on skateboard.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] guillermosv14:
i want to change the skin of a touch pro... but i need a web site to buy the complete skin for the phone. any help will be appreciate
[G1 Apps and Games] lapalways05:
Any1 use apps for class? I need some , i use the app for microsoft excel and word, and a notepad widget
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] itsmikeramsay:
Now I'm currently with Verizon Wireless. The service is exceptionally well. Now I know the HD2, or HTC Leo is rumored to debut on T-Mobile. I know there's an HTC Passion or HTC Dragon coming to Verizon Wireless, with the exact same stats of The HTC HD2 or HTC Leo. I've been a fan of Windows Mobile especially as of lately with the Windows Mobile 6.5. Android doesn't have the eye candy I'm looking for and it really turns me off they only allow you 256MB for applications on your phone. Windows Mobile allows you to install apps to your SD card, which is a major plus for me. Plus there are rumors that Windows Mobile may get access to the Android Marketplace.

With that being said, I want to get the HTC Passion, but I'd like to have Windows Mobile 6.5 installed on it, instead of the Androids 2.0. Is that possible? I know it can work the other way around, but can it work this way? Please let me know ASAP....if so, can anyone tell me how?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sbarne3:
I'm pretty new to Android, but I am pretty sure you can do this with APP2SD

I would like to know this as well...

I am pretty sure I am going to convert to Android soon, but I would feel a lot more comfortable with the transition knowing that I could go back to WM if I change my mind... or at least that the possibility exists and is being worked on.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pdaimatejam:
Ekledigim programlar

WM5torage_18

Winrar

SoftReset

Jbed Java

HTC Albüm

Değiştirmek Klavye Araçlar

ClearTemp

AdobeReaderLE_R

FingerKeyb

TaskBar QVGA

Görev yöneticisi v3.1

Rom sorunsuzdur gayet hızlı ve stabil oldu takdir sizin

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[Touch GSM ROM Development] d3athbys3xy:
how do we download it? pretty goodlooking rom :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] vasujahagirdar:
code

hi

what is the code to unzip the file??

thanks
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pdaimatejam:
password.ctrlpda