yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Damager:
I'm with the "why should we re encode?" side.

I'd like to be able to play my 23.976 fps, 624 x 352 xvid clips on coreplayer without the need to re encode.

with the following settings

qtv, high quality

frame loss is around 40%

with touchflo3d off, the frame loss is significantly reduced to less than 10%.

There definitely has to be some sort of link between how coreplayer interacts with wm6.5 and tf3d on or off. I dont think it's just that touchflo3d takes more RAM which is affecting the performance of coreplayer. There seems to be a graphical element of tf3d affecting coreplayer's video performance. I'm not an expert by any means, but this is my observation.

the smooth zoom, is it better on or off, or 50%? not sure what's dither, are they best on or off? no idea.

I've also encoded to mp4 with excellent results and smooth playback, but i hate having to re encode.. and WAITING ... I want to drag and drop to my sd card and play and enjoy!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] japper88:
There has to be some kind of fix but it will have to come from coreplayer... touchflo3d with wm6.1 didn't cause these problems with coreplayer. It's just wm6.5 and Manila
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyj71:
Question..

Why don't you just...acquire..the xvid clips already in mp4? That's what I don't understand. I have read this thread and hear problems and complaints. Everyone's problem and complaints is important to them, so I'm not bashing. However, since there are about 200 million Video Ipods,Ipod Touches, and Iphones in the world, MP4 clips are a dime a dozen. Since you guys are on this site you have to be somewhat internet savy. Damn near every video has already been converted. This would seem like the least of your problems.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] osrix:
Coreplayer 1.3.6

Just got much better playback, no ripping and no lag by: Tools> Settings>QTv Display>> Untick TyTN II driver mode.

I'm sure all have seen this setting but its a bit hidden this change has made a massive improvement to my video quality.

I hope this helps
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
Nope, still a problem. You are turning off QTv performance which depending on the video you are playing performance just dies.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
And this is why developers never resolve these issues. I can understand if a major upgrade like wm6.5 broke QTv support across the board on all devices. But no, just the TP2 and only with TF3D running.

Now my workaround is just to turn off TF3D. Not a big deal. Much better than redownloading my collection. And you are right -there are bigger issues because the workaround is simple. But because the workaround is so simple the resolution has to be just as simple. For Corecodec to resolve at this point of course.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyj71:
See that's where we differ because I don't see this as an issue for Corecodec to resolve. If what you say is true and TP2 is the only device with this problem then it would be an issue with HTC. Anyway it's neither here nor there. There are many devices that you have to encode video in order to view so I hear your pain but I can't really understand it.

BTW- If you guys really want to figure out your issue, maybe y'all should post some more information such as: What model phone(Tilt2,Sprint TP2,etc), what chipset(I've read there are two), What apps installed, what apps running, Is My location active. That way one of the many people on this board that are smarter than me can fiqure out the problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
No need for more information. TP2, WM6.5 with TF3D running. Simple as that. Granted, I do see your point. This really sits in HTC's lap but I see Corecodec fixing this first based on HTC's past history with video issues.

And yes, I agree with every new device you have to do some re-encoding. But we are now getting too granular here. We are already re-encoding for the Qualcomm problem. Now we need to re-encode again for a Qualcomm problem due to TF3D?

Again, I just turn off TF3D. I am not re-encoding again until a new generation of devices are introduced. That is when it makes sense. This does not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
Coreplayer VS ALBUM PLAYER

BANG BANG BANG Coreplayer gone.

Please please MP4 VS XVID

MP4 Bigger files bad , but outstanding quality

XVID Small Files good , SH*T quality (compared with mp4)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Sergio76:
To convert videos just use Winavi MP4 its the best and the fastest.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
Mmmm, switching off TF3D is easier. Coreplayer has a better UI for media files. Also, mp4 is nice but a properly coded xvid still plays better at higher resolution in coreplayer using the QTv options than mp4 in HTC Album. But that just me.

I am complaining about this more than usual because the issue is just so annoying. How can something so simple just break all of a sudden? And this only impacts the TP2. The same scenario is not a problem on my Pure.

Moments like these I can appreciate the iPhone busines model. No dilution of the product. Lame, but bullet proof. Too bad the lame part makes it so boring though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dindin223:
what's the easiest way to switch off TF3D? is there a shortcut for switch on/off available?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] japper88:
You can make a script that turns it off and opens coreplayer and turns it back on after you exit core player.

Someone over at ppcgeeks made one:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1380746&postcount=52

You just need to have mortscript installed for it to work. (attached)

And I found you need to exit coreplayer through the menu and not the "x" for it to work properly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bigjezza:
I feel ya pain. The scene standard xvid tv rips dont play too well with WM6.5 :(

My Universal does a much better job, and its 4 years old :(

I am seriously considering going back to WM6.1. I know they work fine in that. No conversion necessary...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
i think all the cooked roms with base on the test rom of htc wm6.5 play very good
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] schizo:
After reading much of these, i got confused because many information are lacking from the complaints. I suggest everyone put these minimum information:

- your ROM version

- TF3D ON/OFF

- free RAM memory before run coreplayer

- coreplayer version you're using

- video setting you are using (QTv, GDI, Rawframe buffer? High quality? Smooth Zoom?)

- zoom setting (fit best, fill screen, stretch, 100%?)

- pixel aspect ratio setting (Auto, square, 4:3, 16:9,etc)

- the most important thing: your video file. State the extension (.avi,.xvid,.divx,.mp4?), resolution, bitrate if possible. Click Menu - Media Properties

- to get objectives scale, run benchmark and state the percentage number. Clic Menu - Tools - Benchmark

That way we have comparative performance which may assists people here on managing their expectations.

Me first:

- ROM: Josh New 1.6a Build 21882

- TF3D ON

- Free RAM: 93MB (directly after softreset)

- Coreplayer 1.2.5 (i have higher version too, will try later)

- Video Setting: QTV High Quality Smooth Zoom Only For 50%

- Zoom Setting: Fit Best

- Pixel Aspect Ratio : 16:9 Screen

- File: .avi, filesize 14713KB, Video: MPEG-4 Video, Video Size 320x240, Frame Rate 30, Audio: MPEG Layer 3, 44100khz 2 Ch 96kbps

- Benchmark: 128.72%, benchmark data rate 541 kbps, original data rate 420kbps

- File: .avi, filesize 49436KB, Video : MPEG, Video Size 320x240, Frame Rate 29.97, Audio: MPEG Layer 2, 44100khz 2 Ch 112kbps

- Benchmark: 129.68%, benchmark data rate 1.38mbps, original data rate 1.06mbps

- File: .mpg, filesize 33632KB, Video : MPEG, Video Size 352x288, Frame Rate 25.00, Audio: MPEG Layer 2, 44100khz 2 Ch 224kbps

- Benchmark: 142.94%, benchmark data rate 1.99mbps, original data rate 1.40mbps

- File: .MP4, filesize 17852KB, Video : MPEG-4 Video, Video Size 320x240, Frame Rate 15.00, Audio: MPEG4 AAC, 44100khz 2 Ch

- Benchmark: 253.36%, benchmark data rate 1.50mbps, original data rate 590kbps

- File: .avi, filesize 42885KB, Video : MPEG-4, Video Size 720x480 (direct DVD RIP), Frame Rate 29.97, Audio: MPEG Layer 3, 48000khz 2 Ch 192kbps

- Benchmark: 46.29%, benchmark data rate 825kbps, original data rate 1.78mbps

First conclusion : our device can run with bitrate upto 1999kbps with coreplayer running .mpg file and MPEG-1 video codec

Will try to rip one music video track from DVD and play around with containers, bitrates, resolution, etc, to get more conclusion. My target is to run original DVD resolution on my TP2, on 16:9 aspect ratio, and Fit Best zoom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
my opinion is .. somethng goes bad with coreplayer not with windows 6.5

i have a video for test on TYTN II with stock rom take 67% (bechmark coreplayer) on my cooked rom i take 86-88%

ok now on rhodium

with wm6.1 take 107%

on windows 6.5.3 i take after restart 106-108% but if close or change video and come again in the same for test i take 89-90%

my rom after restart have 94mb ram free after close core player i have 87mb ram free that will be a reason but after that i close the TF3D and free rams goes to 102 test again the same video and i take again 89-90%

so is not compatible with 6.5.3
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hani1:
no lagging here
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
Really? What OS are using? And are using TF3D? And are playing videos close to the maximum resolution of the device? That is the issue - WM6.5, TF3D, and videos at resolution close to or greater than VGA.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
Perfect. Thank you for posting this workaround.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pkoper:
You will most likely find that it affects roms with Manila 2.5 and way too many Leo packages.

Not the OS and not TF3D is the culprit, but simply ext_packages designed for LEO hardware that obviuosly does not exist on the rhodium.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
Not true. This problem exists with the ATT stock rom as well. I noticed this right out of the gate. Turn off TF3D and it goes away. So definitely TF3D, 2.1 or 2.5 with WM6.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] pkoper:
So you tube does not work on ATT stock roms?

Obviously speed will improve if manila is disabled as this frees heeps of memory. But I think thats not what this thread is about.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] antoine_32:
Mine isnt lagging, it runs 700MB avi(divx), tried few movies and all runs smooth. I only get lags when tried to play a wmv(1400kbit) but it lags aswell with windows media player so i guess the lag is cause of the bitrate.

Im using .9 timor ROM, core player v1.3.2

Benchmark Result from avi xvid file 699MB, f/s 25

Avrg speed: 140.01%

Video Frames: 600

Audio Samples: 1105681

Amount Data: 2928KB

Bench time: 00:17.142

Bench Frame rate: 35.002

Bench sample rate: 64501

Bench data rate: 1.40Mbit/s

Original Time: 00:24.000

Original Frame rate: 25.000

Original sample rate:44100

Original data rate: 999kbit/s

***RAM was about 70% used (30% free) before opening core player
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] japper88:
The culprit is manila 2.1 or 2.5 running on 6.5 or newer. So AT&T and others who have stock roms with 6.5 + manila 2.1 will suffer with coreplayer issues unless they turn off manila.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thug_life_inc:
I am currently running a 6.5 ROM (almost stock) with 2.5 Leo Manila, issue is even worse, no proper playback even when TF3D is disabled ....

We should overclock the TP2 :D, not enough hardware for this new software I guess....

Regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] japper88:
Sounds like you have too many things eating up your memory. How much free ram do you have after you disable tflo3d?

I made a cab of the script that turns off manila and opens coreplayer and then turns manila back on when you exit coreplayer.

-you must have mortscript installed

-you must install the cab to your main memory for the shortcut to work

-you must exit coreplayer via menu exit otherwise manila might not properly turn back on (DO NOT exit via the "x")
[Windows Mobile Software Development] SyCoREAPER:
My undersatanding is that the Windows Mobile Control Panel is made up of 3 files: "Ctlpnl.exe, Control.exe, and collection of Control Panel (.cpl) files"

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa932174.aspx

I have found dozens of articles saying how to link directly to a Control Panel item, but not directly to the Control Panel itself.

How would I create a shortcut directly to the Control Panel?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rtomakov:
EDITED:

SORRY, I misunderstood your question. You want to run complete control panel, not just specific item.

Well, there is ControlPanel.exe on samsung omnia i900 that do exactly what you want: opens the complete windows control panel.

I could upload it if you want to try it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] SyCoREAPER:
unfortunately I do not have a Control Panel.exe. I have searched the windows directly for something that even looks similar. No dice.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] rtomakov:
Here is ControlPanel.exe from omnia. Try it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] SyCoREAPER:
wow! No shh#%. That worked! Thank you so much!

Edit: Thats odd. It opened once and not again. It attempts to open but doesn't do anything.

Edit: soft Reset has it working agian so far. Will post back if it doesn't.

But thank you so much for your help with this! You saved me tons of headaches.
[HD2 General] feeltch:
does leo have it or is it missing?
[HD2 General] Zero Masamune:
nah, I think it's next to the light sensor thingie. But I haven't got it working
[HD2 General] br3nt:
there's only 1 camera on the leo? or are you talkin bout something else?
[HD2 General] nic85:
only a 5mpx camera on the back...
[HD2 General] xmoo:
There are 2 holes next to the ear piece.

But one is lgith sensor other is the proximat blablabla sensor.

No sec cam.

For sec cam buy Acer F1.
[HD2 General] feeltch:
what they found out people don't do videocall?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Yes, but cause of the size and thickness.
[HD2 General] johnk1973:
Pure speculation.

You might have one but that doesn't mean you know everything about them. Guessing why HTC does certain things and then telling it as fact is just wrong.
[HD2 General] jrvenge:
I emailed about this and they said surveys said people didnt use video calling, i must admit, my phone has the feature, but its just so expensive to use.

Would have been nice though
[HD2 General] kinnyfaifai:
I agree. It would've been nice. The only time I used video call was when I had free video calls. Besides being expensive, i don't see much benefit having video in a call.
[HD2 General] newuser888:
Would your answer be still the same if you happen to have an extremely attractive girlfriend and you want to see her face and smiles when you call her? :D
[HD2 General] nicelad_uk:
Still not worth 50p a minute when I can see her when I get home.
[HD2 General] br3nt:
for mute/deaf people videocall is awesome (or so I've heard) ....

ever since they launched 3g with videocall in sweden i've made like 5-7 videocalls ( and its been a couple of years ;) )
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Yes. Because generally speaking I don't want her to be able to see where I am and what I'm doing.... :cool:
[HD2 General] kinnyfaifai:
I agree. :)
[HD2 General] Jaguarp:
Believe it or not, I use video call

My network operator (Telenor Serbia) applies same charge for both voice and video call, and also includes it in free traffic as a part of a contract. I myself am a frequent user of that feature because my job is 200km away from my hometown where my wife and kids are. Video call is the only way for me to see them almost every day. Apart from that (and occasional video surveillance by 3g cameras - our company has two of them installed) I almost never use video call. Main downside is a lag in conversation of approx. one second both ways which makes any serious conversation impossible. There's also a huge battery drain. So, it's quite understandable to me why most of people don't miss this feature on HD2.
[G1 General] mak213:
i tried billions of batterys + new ones and my g1 dies after 3-4 hours of use i use CM 4.2.3.1 and also i have tried to use overclock widget and make everything not to go over 246 and still any idea why?
[G1 General] brummiesteven:
It's something to do with Cyanogen's Rom. I flashed (by accident admitidly) the Dev Rom (from htc.com) and then for some reason it removed my recovery image so I couldn't flash back to cyanogen and didn't have time to sort it out today.

I only had to charge once, using my portable motorola charger thing, for about 30 minutes, the whole day. It's lasted around 15 hours. On Cyanogen's roms I was averaging around 4-5 hours. I was web browsing a lot too (had a long coach journey there and back with no headphones)
[G1 General] dj westie:
That's strange, i was getting 2-3 hours using standard G1 (after updating to Donut 1.6). I'm now on 4.2.3.1 and battery life has greatly increased!!!! Although i am using overclock widget as well... But it does come down when browsing a lot..
[G1 General] Icebergxx:
Battery life is a real pain in the ass for me too, I was on the Cyan train but I jumped to a soul life build and on a day of light usaged I have gotten a full 24+ hours off a single charge, and on heavy use 6-8 hours before it turns orange.

But

I disable "Always on-mobile Data" and typically am on Edge/2g networks since I don't really care to use the auto refreshing browser much.

I've played with it a lot.

Loaded a lot of widgets

3g

2g

Always on data

etc etc etc.

I would go back to Cyan but I'm sure he doens't have these features [always on mobile]

But mind you it's a 1.5 build I'm on.
[G1 General] young1:
iam sure them options are now integrated in the latest release but 2-3 hours is major strange i would look towards a problem with the battery or the charger perhaps?

brit
[G1 General] rivera618:
I know that if you remove the batterystats.bin file while the phone is plugged in your battery life will be extemely short. Plug it in and charge to 100% and then unplug and remove the batterystats.bin file through the terminal. If that doesnt work ,then you might need a new battery.

For the record ,i have very good battery life on CM roms, over 12 hours with medium usage, so dont blame the rom.
[G1 General] xxvtcxx:
I recently unrooted my phone, went back to the original: image, spl, and radio. I noticed that my battery drained real quick on the old radio. I installed cyan's 4.2.4, Danger SPL, and the 2.22.19.26I, and with this configuration I'm lasting 1-2 days on idle. (Oh, I'm also using setpu ramping from 128-528mhz).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Accessories] Kenn Lynch:
Hi Guys

Searching for that perfect case for my ATT Pure

I've not really found one I like for the Pure

(Leather flip/cover prefer book but horiz hinge is ok)

I've bought/tried some that where meant for the Diamond2

that unfortunately just did not fit

(shame some very nice inexpensive leather clip types for the D2)

Part of the problem might be that the Pure has a long metal trim bar around

the camera lens opening. The D2 as you probaly know has the triangular metal piece (I dont know what the Compact V has on its back?)

The problem with the Pure and the clip case was that the metal bar extended up from the surface of the case enough so the phone would not seat into the clip

Also appeared the clip in the D2 case was wider than correct for the Pure?

(but specs say D2 is narrower than the Pure?)

Anyway I'm hoping someone has seen the two side by side or

at least knows the facts

Thanks

KJL

PS I think I've found a case I really like but its for D2 and Compact V

Its not a clip but more strap or sleeve so it should be forgiving of a little

difference in width. I'll post what I find.

(its amazing the limited choices available for the Pure)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Accessories] cmstackar:
Yep, they are the exact same housing size
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] willthomason:
I know this is probably a common problem, but despite searching i cant figure it out. I have the ATT tilt 2 but i installed the af_Rhodium by Ark and it is great but the slide out keyboard isnt mapped correctly. How do i map the keyboard back to the ATT version? i found an option to change languages and in there was the ATT keyboard, but that didnt help. My ! button is my 1 button, and the numbers dont work when i hold down function, and may other problems. Is there a cab i can install to make my keyboard work again?

Thanks,

Will
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] flammjager:
Hi from Spain!

i know that problem because i have a tilt2. i can't find some "news" about that problem until today, but finally i change my rom to that:

post 2782 at htcpedia.com/forum/ or rom's name: 21907_WCX_RHODIUM_S2_TILT_2

it's for tilt2 only and works find...

don't be a solution but...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cajunflavoredbob:
Try the attached file.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] F2504x4:
Thanks this cab just fixed my keyboard problems
[G1 General] Pinesal:
G1 is starting to show it's age and we've had the superior Hero for awhile and now the DROID is out and even better than Hero. The problem is, they are for other carriers.

Tmobil just cam out with the Motorola CLIQ but it doesn't seem to be even as good as the Hero and definitely not as good as the DROID.

Are there any rumors of a worthwhile upgrade coming to Tmobile?
[G1 General] Carloswithac:
Sony Xperia X10 hopefully.
[G1 General] Anartic:
The Samsung Behold II is coming to T-Mobile, I don't know much about the phone, but that's something you can look into and decide for yourself.
[G1 General] Ace42:
Excuse me but the hero is actually superior to them all I thought I should correct your error mate.the only reason its slow is because HTC is using slow hardware that can't keep up with such elegance and beauty.the droid uses 1.6 while heroes use 1.5 so comparison isn't fair...

Good day to you all..
[G1 General] Meltus:
christ, i can't wait for this phone.

Here's a video for those of you who haven't seen it yet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiZ2DBN6zCM
[G1 General] Chedderknight:
I'm only hoping there next contender will also have a 5 row qwerty keyboard, im not much of a onscreen typer and hopefully running snapdragon.
[G1 General] AdrianK:
Today kiddies we're going to learn about the difference between "fact" and "opinion".. Christ!
[G1 General] Ace42:
im assuming you cant tell i was being sarcastic when i was talking about elegance and beauty:P
[G1 General] AdrianK:
lol, apparently not :P I hate Sense UI, it's a resource hog that looks pretty but doesn't do anything useful. I'd rather just have a faster phone than that bogged-down UI.
[G1 General] roguestatuskat:
i hope they make an actual G2, like 5 row keyboard 1ghz proc. capacitive touchscreen trackball with light , LED light ambient light sensor ,3-8000MP cam, 512 mb ram

pretty much a G1 with an upgrade =]
[G1 General] neoobs:
... WOW, you want a light emitting diode light ambient light sensor? I hope there was supposed to be a comma there. And I have never seen anything with 8000MP camera. Maybe the hubble LOL. somehow that is supposed to take pictures with just 512MB ram.. and a 64GB SD Card?
[G1 General] Ace42:
thats kinda true i only get about 30-ram avail on a hero rom :p

on a xrom or something i would have alot more available.
[G1 General] roguestatuskat:
yeahh there was, but pretty much what i mean is just an upgraded g1 , a true G2