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[HD2 General] xmoo:
IT plays video good/accaptible, over and out!

Next question plz....
[HD2 General] ganon4:
I'd see your movie on youtube and it seems to be really fast.. the movie looks really great too :D Thanks for your awesome job :)
[HD2 General] TomF1979:
Works flash in IE or Opera?

BR Tom
[HD2 General] ganon4:
I think isn't work :)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
On IE havn't tried it yet.

On Opera no!

HTC HD2 Video Recording Quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJgSLuUAmeg

More pix on my Twitter: http://www.Twitter.com/Xmoo
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Could you maybe test the hands free quality please xmoo?

This is very important for me. Also, does it have any problems with signal (I only ask, as my X1 would lose signal where my K750i still had signal). Thanks ^^
[HD2 General] yrreP:
I have a Leo with the o2 ROM on it.. feels a little sluggish so may have to flash again later on. Or I may give T-Mo or Voda ROM's a bash as well!
[HD2 General] zolom:
Maybe fixOperaFlash.zip should resolve that? see

HERE
[HD2 General] hmota78:
Have you tried to flash a different radio? Signal strength differs substantially between different radios.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
I'm on the 1.16.25.48 radio.

Sadly, I don't know which one might be better. It's mainly indoors that it loses signal. Especially at my work.
[HD2 General] Pantaloonie:
So have O2 branded the rom? And in what way?

I know T-Mobile ones are supposed to be unbranded...
[HD2 General] hmota78:
I would definitely give a few different radios a try if I were you. Flashing a radio does not erase any of your data and takes about 5 minutes, so it's really easy to check which radio suites you best. Also it helps if you find a few people who are using the same carrier in your country as you are and find out what radio works best for them.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Awesome, thanks mate.

Anyways, lets get back to this HD2 thread!

I WANT MINE ALREADY!

Anyone who has one, care to comment on it's build quality etc.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Got Navi Panel to work: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4892771
[HD2 General] yrreP:
The o2 ROM seems purely theme branded rather than anything 'major'. I've downloaded the T-Mo ROM and will flash that when I can be arsed..

:-)
[HD2 General] benko286:
Few questions:

-can you reach all parts of screen with one hand(using thumb)?

-How is battery like?

-How good is large pictures viewing(5MP+, does it loads fast pictures, zoom also there works smooth?)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
1. Sometimes it's hard to get to the start menu, but in that case I would say press the start button. The screen can be used 90% by one hand (this can differn on every person)

2. Dunno, gonna try tomorrow.

3. Fast and smooth!
[HD2 General] benko286:
1. Ahh i knew it screen is too big :(

2. The most interesting part for me, waiting for results ;)

3. :)

4. Manila and ROM speed after 2days without softreset, still very fast?

5. Chome included in stock rom?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Ok,

A fast update.

Here the structure of the screen.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4892873&postcount=16

I'm @ work 2morrow, so no updates till 18:00 GMT +1

Things to do 2morrow.

Take some pics with HD2 camera,

Digital Compass use video,

Battery life!

Goodnight all
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Yeah, the speed of the phone after a few days and no reset would really be interesting to know.

Currently still looks like HTC have made an awesome phone, that is very fast and slick.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
GPS is amazing, Installed TomTom7 and in 4sec 9 sattelite fix in door!!!

Battery test starts from 08:00 GMT+1 till 18:00 GMT +1.

100% to .... Wil also note how many calls etc I did/made.
[HD2 General] salamt:
Dont forget you micro usb charger :)
[HD2 General] JohnQ:
hi xmoo, i got a Q.

how is the battery performance you experienced?

normal use/hard use ,etc. thank you
[HD2 General] yrreP:
The T-Mo ROM is only branded on start-up, plus has an applicaiton named 'T-Mobile Instant Messaging'; other than that is looks the same as the HTC ROM.
[HD2 General] rovex:
I dont think that youtube HD videos using the youtube app are a very good test of the HD2s HD capability. My HD very nearly plays the same Elephants Dream video without stuttering (nearly).

A real test would be to download the video from youtube then play it with the album. If i download the [HQ22] version with a youtube downloader my HD wont play it at all.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Adding some pix on twitter, and also gonna tell you guys about the battery
[HD2 General] madindehead:
How has the phone been after running for a day xmoo?

Still pretty fast? What's it like to hold in your hand? Did you manage to test the handsfree at all?

My order has just completed, so will have mine on Thursday next week =D
[HD2 General] xmoo:
The phone is still at the same speed!!!

Almost done with the battery test, will report soon.

Handsfree + gps is a test I'm going to do tomorrow.

New pics added on Twitter http://twitter.com/Xmoo

Ps. Today I had the first crash, Manila, while going to check missed calls. After 9 sec Manila was back-up. Havn't resetted the phone since I got it.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Nice mate. I look forward to the results of the handsfree test ^^
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Battery

Tested the battery today (07-11-2009 from 08:00 till 18:00)

Setup

*Active Sync enabled all day;

*3G only, no switching to H;

*Weather, Twitter, Stocks auto download every 1 hour;

*3,5 Hours of browsing with Opera;

*11 Calls, total of 34min talk;

*19 SMS got, 15 SMS sent;

*Formatted a 4GB SD card;

*15mins MSN;

*30mins playing with the phone (Showing it to my boss);

*Vibrate only;

*8 E-mails got, 2 E-mails sent;

From 100% to 61%, so in 10 hours use, battery dropped 39%
[HD2 General] benko286:
wait wait 3.5horus of internet+ half of hout talk and baery dropped by 39%

Absolutly amazing if true?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Why would I fake it.

I'm telling you what i've done with my HD2 and what the battery said back to me.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
That's damn impressive xmoo! Man, I so want this phone now!

Is the SMS application pretty fast, even with a few messages in it?

Did you restore any to the phone at all?
[HD2 General] benko286:
Maaaaaan amazingggggggggggg :)

Can yo do me a little favour, make a picture in which you hold your HD2 in one hand so that i can see aproximatlly how hard/easy is using phone with one hand!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
I did not restore my SMS. I've got like 12 threaded msg'es.

And everything runs fast.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Cool.

Can you check and see if one setting exists for me please xmoo:

Go to Settings tab > Menu > All settings (take you into MS settings) > Lock > and then Display tab.

Are there two options in there, Windows Classic and Windows Default?

Or just the one. Thanks mate ^^
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
It has both Windows Default and Windows Classic
[HD2 General] xmoo:
HD2 Vs. My Hand: http://twitpic.com/omxjk

Compass in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEzxFD1KI8k
[HD2 General] br3nt:
is it possible to "pinch-to-zoom" with one hand?

tried it with a hero (1st time) and went pretty decent

:)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
****, the faq is gone :(

Anyone still has it in his cache???

It is posible, just put one finger on the screen (anywhere) and play with the other in and out :D
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Sweet. Thanks mate =D

Windows Classic is nice to have. I like having my phone locked on the Manila homescreen!

@ xmoo. Could you maybe do a comparison shot, of the X1 in your hand and the HD2 in your hand. And edit the two images together, so they are side by side? Don't worry if it's too much bother =)
[HD2 General] chris10230:
Any chance of a screenshot of the touchflo to give us waiting o2 people an idea of the theming extent going on
[HD2 General] kb0n:
Nice battery test. What about the display brightness during the test?
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Also, what is the screen like in daylight, and in the dark? Seem pretty easy to view?
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
The test version I had only had the O2 logo for the boot up. I flashed it to the official launch ROM (generic) from the HTCWiki site (or whatever it was called) - so it has no branding.

Bare in mind this was a test handset - final hardware but may not be locked to only O2 Roms.
[HD2 General] MattRob:
Also got mine since yesterday; am REALLY happy with it. It's really extremely fast.

What I noticed, is that the charging time is extremely long, compared to my HD. Do you have that also ? And I also really dislike the fact that the HD2 goes into lock, after turning of the screen ... Anybody seen a solution for that already ?
[HD2 General] manuelcalavera:
xmoo , according to some reviews like the slashgear's, it has usb-host , please confirm . its so important to me
[HD2 General] benko286:
Netherlands HD2 mania ;)

@xmoo-tnx for picture :)

So what about chome, can you enable it?

And I am also intersted in how is good screen in daylight, and is it too strong backlight in night(like in HTC Diamond, backlight is too strong in completly dark)?

@MattRob-first few charges should be slower, but later it should stabilze ;)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Default, so automaticly.

In dark it's good, in daylight aswell. But high light do reflect on your screen, so that sucks.

The X1 is from my Boss. So can't do.

Here a pic of HD2 in my hand http://twitpic.com/omxjk

Here a video of the HD and HD2 in hand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2htj8r1gWgc&NR=1
[HD2 General] xmoo:
If you are talking about using your HD2 as a Diskdrive yes.

Still the ole same: Active Sync, Hard Drive, Internet sharing

Explane chome plz.

The light is good, but just like HD1 and Xperia, the light sensor does not allow the backlight to shin 100%. It has been limited to 80% (With some tweaks you can get 100% out of it.
[HD2 General] benko286:
Go to settings-home-Items and see there if you can choose Windows standrd, if you can, disable HTC Sense and enable windows standard(titanium) and see what is like if you havent heard for it ;)

I need to say that i love this ppc, great job htc, HD2 is fast like hell :)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
This has been asked a lot, and yes it works you can use other items for your today screen.
[HD2 General] benko286:
Can you try following:

(I am runing 23504 build but i thing that you go same as I)

Go to start-settings-Sounds and notification and than press on notifications, is there any lag when you move to notifications?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Nope, not at all. I'm on build 21864
[HD2 General] benko286:
:eek: really amazing...

What i would like is hands on video, so take a video when you using manila/htc album/moving throught winmo settings/rotaing in music/photo tab.., so that we can see completly how extremly fast HD2 is :)

Of yourse if you have time and mind..
[HD2 General] niknik76:
Why is that amazing? :) Is it because it has to load all the different sound clips?

The battery test you did xmoo sounds very promising! thanks
[HD2 General] benko286:
dont know have you tried winmo 6.5 but here when i Go to start-settings-Sounds and notification and than press on notifications it takes 2-3sec to pen them, + i tweaked it pretty much..so normaly it takes 3-5sec!
[HD2 General] niknik76:
Yes, same on my TD2 wm.6.1
[HD2 General] hmota78:
Xmoo, thank you so much for taking your time to answer our questions. It is really appreciated.

The battery test really exceeded all of my expectations :D
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Tried to make the HD2 going crazy, by running 15/20 apps.

But it just went like a train!

Uploading video now. Stay tuned, keep checking Twitter!
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Haha nice mate. You are doing a great job here =D

If you have SPB Phone Suite could you check and see if it works ok? If you don't have it, don't worry =)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
There it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0TubBs6cG0

Video should work in 2/3 mins.
[HD2 General] MattRob:
I also noticed that the option to have flash enabled for sms and email is greyed out ... Wanted it to work like a blackberry ....

Another thing, the sms function does not have a 'send' button, but instead the left softkey should be pressed to send. But that leaves you without a 'back' button or 'X' to go back. So you have to use the back button, which is a little strange I would say.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
How many apps you running there xmoo?!

And it all still ran smoothly?! You played that Family Guy episode with everything still running in the background?!
[HD2 General] benko286:
xmoo thank you so much on video, simply amazing, athought it lags a little bit but it is(when opening a programs, manila music tab) normal due to mayn apps opened..

Also i need to say that video loading is pretty fast event thouht it a lot of apps is runing!

What is the name of the film with Will Smith as actor?
[HD2 General] nicelad_uk:
Cheers for all the videos / pictures mate, its really appreciated. One thing, the music player seems to take a while to load up in Sense, is this always the case?

I noticed both times on the video when you accessed it, it was like 5 seconds before anything showed.
[HD2 General] nicelad_uk:
Looks like BadBoys 2
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Yes, Everything I did there was atleast running 15 apps.

Including TomTom7! This was the biggest, 15MB mem usage.
[HD2 General] jgal:
So a little question from me to You xmoo... Is there a way to attach a lanyard or some kind of strap to the device? Judging from all vids and pics I've seen so far, probably not. But maybe I missed something :) Thx for the answer in advance!
[HD2 General] madindehead:
That is insane dude! Absolutely amazing. Can't wait!
[HD2 General] nicelad_uk:
You want to put a strap on such a nice looking phone?
[HD2 General] jgal:
YES, because I'm afraid that because of its nice-iness and good-looking-ness, someone will rip it from my hand on the street. This is a possibility in my country and I certainly wouldnt want that, would You?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Everyone loves somthing.

No there is no place for that.

Also funny, there is a SR button, but it's the size of a stylus...... HD2 comes with no Stylus.

2nd day and not yet needed to do a SR. So don't think SR button will be needed :D
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
Gotta ask this, is there any manila task manager? (i see that you acces the task from within startmenu) ... and if that is so, wil e-natives showcase work on leo ?

And also, did you find any way to disable the lock-screen?
[HD2 General] ibsa03:
all we've seen is the unboxing videos and people giving reviews etc. on the HD2, which all consists of light usage.., what about "hardcore" usage? fastly moving the TF3D slider from the homepage to the programs tab in under a second, in the HD it gives a small freeze on one of the tabs in the middle, and then appears in the programs tab, like warping.. another this is, what when ur 'scrolling' up and down, fast in the start menu, is it still smooth? and typing a text message? fast typing, will the letters appear slowly?

i ask this cause it looks nice and smooth in all the videos, but just like that if i move my finger slowly on the screen of the HD its all as smooth as the Leo looks, but then i start using it for real, going from a side to another, it becomes slow, as if the phone needs time to think about every single move i ask it to do haha..

so yeah, thats what i wanna know, when using the phone for real, having a couple of aps open, is it still hiper-responsive or do u see the lag??
[HD2 General] nicelad_uk:
Good point, I'm coming to Poland in a couple of weeks, I won't bring mine :) Fair point though!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
The taskmngr is normaly only accessable trough the settings page.

I copied a shortcut from the Windows directory.

Some other funny story are the games. In start/games you only see teeter. But when you browse to Windows directory, you see bubblebraker etc... And the apps are also working, so dunno why htc puts them in the rom, but not creates a shortcut to start menu for it.

Hop the showcase works on the HD2, would be cool.

I did not find a way.

They have deleted these options from the settings page.

Also the option to enable button lock, so the phone wont start whenever pressing any button is removed.

This is ****, these are the 2 options I need the most a.t.m.

Making the screen not to wake-up on every button press (in pocket) + sms will save a lot of battery!
[HD2 General] mikempower:
Hi Xmoo!

did you try speaking to the phone with bluetooth headset while using Tomtom? when you closed conversation,did you have some problem as a temporary freeze of tomtom with the screen without color?

and Tomtom has some kind of lag?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Plz check my Twitter!!

Xmoo

@HTC HD2 trying to make to phone go CrAzY!! (Fail!) http://bit.ly/fbnHZ

Everything just goes as a rock.

I don't think the HD2 is using the whole 1 Ghz, I think 750Mhz would be enough. A way they win a lot of speed and preformance is due to the big ram!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Going to test handfree, bluetooth, gps tomorrow.

Going to Thermaalbaden Arcen, Netherlands. So will be a 80km drive.

Ok 2/3 more question, them I'm closing the helpdeks for today.

Relaxing time is about to begin.
[HD2 General] jgal:
Most Poles would feel offended, but You're right and not bringing it over here is definetly a wise thing to do:P Ehh... I wonder How will it be living with such an expensive phone...

Anyway, another question to xmoo... How are the GPS fix times? Is it laggy like on some other HTC devices?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Gonna test GPS 2morrow.

I started TomTom yesterday accedently indoors, in about 5 sec I had 9 sattelite connection.

I would say it's good :P

Someone got the Omnia 2 Igo sys.txt? So I can test Igo aswell tomorrow?
[HD2 General] mean-machine:
I don't know how it is in Poznań, but I have never had any problems with expensive phones in Katowice or Kraków. I have always used the latest and most expensive stuff from HTC.

I wouldn't be so concerned unless like showing off your phone at the empty bus stop at night.
[HD2 General] hmota78:
Couple of pages back xmoo wrote he got a fix in about 5 seconds. Just read the thread...:)
[HD2 General] jgal:
It shouldn't be a problem here in Poznan also, Ive been living here for five years and I consider this city to be very, very safe. Its just that the HD2 attracts so much attention because of its extreme size. Well, we will see how it will all be in 2 weeks time when I get my unit:)
[HD2 General] jgal:
I did search it, I guess Ive missed it, thx anyway!
[HD2 General] madindehead:
You going to test the included handsfree kit, and a Bluetooth headset xmoo?

Included handsfree is important for me.

Edit: xmoo, when you say fail in the video, I'm guessing you mean, you failed to get the phone to go crazy?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
My Igo work correctly on first run.

sys.txt from the Touch HD.

For people asking about showcase, it does not work!

Ok closed for now.

I'll be open mayb 2 morrow night, or else monday for shure!

Good night all!
[HD2 General] nicelad_uk:
No offence ment, was only joking :) Its the same anywhere though, you will always have something that people want. Being a 6'3" tall, big bloke (not fat though :) ) usually puts people off. Touch wood, never had a phone stolen in 10 years.
[HD2 General] Pappagallo:
@xmoo, the video in which you're trying to get the HD2 go 'crazy' is a nice proof that this baby is performing brilliant :cool:

Noticed that you're trying to Pinch-Zoom in the Bad Boys video, but got the impression it didn't work. Should it work ????
[HD2 General] xmoo:
I've seen a demo that it did work in a video.

Now I dunno how he did it.

Anyone can help me with http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581531
[HD2 General] Benjiro:
To add to this discussion, i tested iGo8 on the HD2:

* Satellites indoor

HD2: 6 to 7.

BT GPS receiver ( Sirf I if i remember correctly, yes its old. i know ): 0

* Outside

HD2: 10 a 11

BT GPS Receiver: 6

* Behind Car Window ( note: This is anti heat glass crap, that interferes with GPS signals ).

HD2: 9 a 10

BT GPS Receiver: 5 a 6 ( but, only on "sweet" spots, if the receiver moves during driving, it will totally drop to 0 satellites ).

* Middle of the Car:

HD: 9 a 10 still

Did not test the BT Receiver in the middle of the Car

* Route calculation ( 180km route )

x50v: Several Seconds

HD2: Instant! No joke... Surprised the crap out off my father ;)

* Letting iGo8 run in fast demo drive mode ( at 1080km/h *lol*, no joke ).

HD2: Switching to task manager: 55 a 60% CPU usage when switching to it for a second, and then 2 a 3% CPU usage. Switching front & back shows the exact same pattern, and iGo8 was still "driving" or "flying" along without any problem. Did the correct distance relative to the time needed to switch.
[HD2 General] hmota78:
That's really good news, thanks benjiro :)
[HD2 General] ALÞHÃ:
Impressive, Benjiro
[HD2 General] galaxys:
@Benjiro, wow that GPS is very impressive :cool:
[HD2 General] kersh:
well, they fix fast the satellites, but have any lag?
[HD2 General] jackleung:
Hi, can you test if TMC driver work with HD2's FM or not (best test with iGo8). It's one of the killer usage on my X1. Thx.
[HD2 General] falluja:
how is the screen on the htc hd2? after I saw the screen of the omnia hd and compared it side by side to other phones include htc hd, the difference was very very very very huge, the htc hd is not even close
[HD2 General] Belzebuth.:
+1...;)

Even with Diamond, we had a rapid fix, but still lag. It was coming from GPS chip of the CPU (also Qualcomm!)...:cool:

So did you test the GPS (TomTom or/and iGO) when driving into a city?

Do you have any Lag? Even in small streets?

Thank you for this...:D
[HD2 General] Jojo100:
Camera pictures

Hello xmoo

Thanks for posting your experiences here. Its nice to read what the device is able to do.

I would like to see some more pictures taken with the camera. Netherlands is a nice country, show it to us.

Maybe in comparision with another "good" Smartphone camera.

Thanks
[HD2 General] hrcro:
I am also intrested to know is there any gps lag.

Also i would like to know how is gsm and wifi reception.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Good Morning!

WIFI is greate!

GPS will test today.

I got a HD and a HD2.

So I can make some same pics.

But there are already website's that have comparisen with HD and HD2.

But will make some pics in diffrent lighting etc....
[HD2 General] @home:
I Know it's early days for you guys who've got the HD2 But would you recommend getting a screen protector?

Still waiting for my HD2...Hopefully Wednesday:)
[HD2 General] RacerII:
Xmoo , check out this 720p clip: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581681

:D
[HD2 General] br3nt:
demo for showing video/pics quality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-XoUL7nUpA&feature=player_embedded

:)
[HD2 General] Pandor:
@ Xmoo, which version of tomtom did you use?

Navigon works,, however you need to give your ok for a bunch of dll's

igo v8.3.2.96.54, had to add to the sys file:

[interface]

skin="iu_igo8"
[HD2 General] tibursio:
Can you pinch-zoom in other videos in HTC Album? It might be because of the video format/codec, I'm not sure. There was a sample video on the HD2, did you delete it already? It should work there.
[HD2 General] zepfur:
Hi Xmoo,

Can the Sense UI be turned off so that the classic Today screen can be used? Read somewhere that Sense cannot be turned off, just want to confirm.

Hope u can let me know please :)
[HD2 General] br3nt:
yes you can turn it of ;)
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
Yes you can disable Sense UI, just like you disable manila. The confusion is made probably because one of the early presentations (when hd2 was called pro three) where the guy said that u can.t disable it.
[HD2 General] niknik76:
Yes, a guy from HTC :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] pierro78:
No he's talking about USB host like you can read external USB keys or powered hard drives.

The Toshiba TG01 can do that ...

Any idea if USB host could be tested with the USB cables which come with the Toshiba TG01 ?
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
You'll need drivers for the host to work anyway, so what would those cables show?
[HD2 General] pierro78:
Maybe these USB host drivers are included in the firmware like they are in the TG01 ?
[HD2 General] yrreP:
Here you go...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGuxr9XlXRI

Not my best ever video, but should be enough to give you an idea

:)