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[HD2 General] donSjon:
HD2

I have many problems with SPB 3.5.1 Mobile Shell on my HD2.

for most of the problems I have other options. but here they are:

* When calling, I cannot open my agenda, etc.

* the carousel: I can open it and "play" with it, but I cannot choose a screen. (I tap as many times as I want, but no reaction)

* When I have a missed call, and I want to see it by tapping on the top op the screen, I get the notifications screen, but I cannot open the info regarding the missed call

* when i go into the list of missed calls via the telephone pick-up HW button, I cannot choose the left bottom option.

* in the programs, i cannot choose settings

that's what i remember. (It's possible there are more problems)
[HD2 General] pzaka:
When you are in your Inbox (watch your sms messages) Menu->Settings->Traditional Mode
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
This isnt entirely true.

After some tweaking i have both Sense UI and Mobile Shell running fine side by side on my handset. You have to exit spb shell then start sense and start spb shell again but hey it works!

Here is what i do.... Turn on phone....

SPB shell loads therefore disabling sense.

In SPB go to Launcher screen -> settings-> SPB Mobile shell.

Click on bottom right hand corner button and exit spb shell.

Sense will now load on today screen... you may have to go into start menu then back to today.

With sense running... go to start menu and click on the 'spb home' shortcut.

This starts spb shell again with sense still running. (You may have to click on home hardware button and then go back into start menu to hit spb home shortcut once more)

You can now switch between sense ui on today screen and spb shell using a today screen shortcut in spb and spb home shortcut from start menu. (note: putting spb home shortcut into quick links on sense ui wont work... you must use start menu.)

sorted.

With both interfaces running at the same time the device is an absolute killer!
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
You have 3d acceleration turned on in SPB shell... turn it off.
[HD2 General] greatcapp:
If I were to install SPBShell, is it simply a case of Uninstalling it to get back to where you were?
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
yes it is!
[HD2 General] christonabike:
It does sound like the 3d acceleration is on. The new driver patch fixes 3D acceleration under spb 3.5:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=592663

well, it did for me anyway!
[HD2 General] jarbi:
Thanks, you have made my day :-)). It is sooo awsome to have both apps running !!
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
I know its sick! ;-)

Couldnt believe it when i stumbled across the way this works just by playing about a bit.... i knew it might have been possible as Sense is just a today screen plugin really. When i got the two flicking between each other it was a pure eureka moment!
[HD2 General] OliveUK:
ah I am about to get the HD2 and was worried about not being able to use SBP diary since that HTC PR person said it would be very difficult to disable TouchFlo. Thanks guys
[HD2 General] greatcapp:
This doesn't happen for me. I just have a clear wallpaper with "Phone" and "Spb Home" as softkeys.

Any suggestions?

***EDIT***

Ooh, found a setting within today screen to enable HTC Sense.
[HD2 General] Noam23:
There must be a faster way to launch SPB Shell (when in SENSE) than to go into the start menu. Going into the start menu and flicking to SPB Home is such a chore!...

I tried putting a link to SPB Home instead of the left softkey ("phone") with no success...
[HD2 General] zabique:
Is there any speed increase with Chainfire-HD2-3D-Driver-Patch in carousel?
[HD2 General] jah:
I have used SPB Shell for weeks. Just disable Sense UI from the Today setting. I also use Hi-Launcher to replace the WM Start menu.
[HD2 General] djet:
Does it really work for you? I can launch Spb menu or settings or carousel but both of Shell's main screens are overriden by Sense home tab.

BTW, does anyone know how to redefine hardware Start button to launch Spb menu w\o any 3rd party software?

Everyone:

Please vote @ SpbClub for HTC HD2 issues
[HD2 General] Jitsu:
I noticed that using the SPB mobile shell decreases battery consumption.

When I had only Sense UI the battery would fall below 40% after one day of normal usage (30 min calls + messing around with sms and settings).

Now I have it running for almost a day with normal usage and the battery holds at 70%.

Don't know if it's a placebo effect or me messing with some settings, but I'm not gonna remove SPB for a while :)
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
What kind of question is that? Of course it bloody works!... i wouldnt have posted it otherwise.

My method has been confirmed by many other users. Follow my instructions carefully.
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
I dont notice much of a speed increase but with the patch installed 3D acceleration will work on SPB shell (doesnt without the patch).
[HD2 General] mskip:
Thats because (I think) HTC in their infinite wisdom didnt include any D3D drivers with the HD2. Chainfires patch just copys the D3D driver from the TG01 which fixes the problem. I think they are testing if the ACER driver is faster but im not sure how thats going.
[HD2 General] jwilam:
SPB mobile shell 3.5.2 totally compatible with HTC Sense

Wow! SPB mobile shell 3.5.2 released, I tried and it is now totally compatible with HTC Sense. We can now smoothly switch between SPB mobile shell and the Sense UI.

I can now make widget of HTC Sense component such as HTC music or HTC calendar on SPB destop and run HTC component from SPB.

Two problems are still there: Shortcut of SPB from Sense Home still doesn't work; closing file which launched from SPB desktop activates HTC Sense but not going back to SPB.

But I feel content.
[HD2 General] mskip:
How do you make a widget of an HTC Sense Tab?
[HD2 General] robdee102:
I've just installed spb mobile shell, and the problem i'm experiencing is that when i go to mobile shell and press the launcher button, everytime i press the back button on mobile shell it goes back to the spb home screen then quicky jumps to the htc sence without me asking it to do so. any ideas ?? tis buggin me
[HD2 General] mskip:
Did you install 3.5.2 as theres a few bug fixes specifically for HD2 on that version.
[HD2 General] robdee102:
Yes i installed 3.5.2
[HD2 General] Saitan69:
Is it worth upgrading to the 3.5.2 shell...using the 3.5.1 build 9687 rite now...works like a charm.
[HD2 General] donSjon:
Did the trick! thanks,

and the 3.5.2 is great, solved a lot of other problems to.

I'll now start playing with it and try some stuff.
[HD2 General] donSjon:
ROM Update HD2

Has anybody tested the ROM update of HD2 with SPB 3.5.2?

should i install or wait?...
[HD2 General] sabes143:
It is not a problem. Whenever you do the rom update you have to install all the softwares again. Therefore before you do the rom update do a hard reset it will solve most of the problem.

Also do a hard reset after the rom update.

Goood luck
[HD2 General] Danielfr:
Since I have installed the 3.5.2 I have lost the Sense windows menus ( see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=599033).

With version 3.5.1, I could use the Sense menus without running the Sense.

When I am running both (Spb and Sense ) instead of having the Spb Mobile Shell home page , it reverts often to the Sense Home page ( after closing an application)

I have also lost with the 3.5.2 the dutty.s task manager on mySpb home page.

But the sms notification is now working.

Daniel
[HD2 General] Szior:
Ive got the same problems:

Installed the 3.5.2 because of the "Fixed issue with settings opening on HTC Windows Mobile 6.5 devices"

and now DTM is gone whe I switch to SPB, althogh it was there with 3.5.1.

Anyone got an idea how to fix this?
[HD2 General] harky:
do anyone know if the latest SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 come with the outlook sms interface..

i miss the old version as it got outlook sms interface ... and it easy for me to keep track of my old sms using outlook sms interface
[HD2 General] danusko:
i have

rom

Version 1.49

RUU_Leo_Telstra_WWE*_1.49.841.1_Radio_Signed_15.28 .50.07U_2.05.51.11_Ship.exe

and shell 3.5.2 and

mail and sms notification doesnt works :((

only led works ...i am very sad, because i want to use shell :(
[HD2 General] danusko:
now i reinstall my htc aand notificatin works. only mail when arriving does not play any sound
[HD2 General] Cret:
I'm trying to get the combination of SPB and Sense to work but I can't make it work correctly. Sure I have followed the instructions correctly but maybe I'm missing something?

I am running SPB 3.5.2 & rom is 1.48.

When I get to the point of Exiting SPB shell, it switches back to some kind of today screen but a very basic one that is not like Sense. All it shows is weather icons for Handy weather and also controls for PocketMusic - that's it - no actual Sense Home screen!

Can anyone tell me what I did wrong not to get the sense screen properly?
[HD2 General] danusko:
i have the same spb and rom and my today doesnt appear nothign...only clear home screen with word phone in left down and spb home in down right :(

..so you are better then me :)
[HD2 General] Cret:
I have a suspicion about this but can't check it at the moment.

I uninstalled SPB shell and the phone was exactly the same as it was when I tried to switch - EG Sense was not showing (blank screen on your one mate).

I went into Today settings> Items and Sense of course was not selected so I selected it again and it's back. Kinda obvious really now.

I'm guessing that's the problem we had when we tried to run SPB shell and Sense at the same time perhaps? ie it needs to be re-enabled in the Today settings.
[HD2 General] uu_26:
Losing Dutty TM and Sense kicks in over spb home screen

I had exactly the same thing today!

I was running spb ms 3.5.1 with 1.43 Rom and it was fine, when I started up I went into spb home screen, then I could exit spb and return to Sense UI and then could flip back when I wanted.

I upgraded today to spb ms 3.5.2 and the spb home screen flashes up but then is instantly covered over by Sense, and Duttys task manager has disappeared!!

Even when I went into spb menu and exited, it was still all gone.

I got the hump and have just uninstalled spb and restarted and now all back to normal, but am suprised as was working fine with 3.5.1???

Also, what is the benefit of spb mobile shell, to be honest haven't found myself using it much, think im just going to leave it uninstalled!
[HD2 General] donSjon:
well,

I rather use the SPB shell then the HTC sense.

so it's just a matter of taste :-)
[HD2 General] danusko:
there is a new vs of spb mobile shell

here are changes:

Version 3.5.3 (Dec 29, 2009):

OpenGL ES 2.0 support in SPB Carousel

Windows Mobile 6.5 icons support

Miscellaneous bug fixes and optimizations
[HD2 General] Henry_Lee:
Im start a using of SPB Mobile Shell and looks like very nice. :)

Sence has very glad things but SPB more usefull and I think I will use that for some time else.
[HD2 General] mightymn:
So this means the carousel goes 3D without Chainfire's patch ?
[HD2 General] Henry_Lee:
I don't think so. :)

Chainfire's patch works only for HD2 but SPB works on many variable devices. As I understood Chainfire Patch fixed OpenGL driver and it helped SPB.
[HD2 General] mightymn:
Well sbp shell used opengl 1.1 (AFAIK) before this. It wasn't compatible with opengl 1.1 implementation on the HD2 and chainfire's patch fixes that. Now with open gl es 2, maybe it will work as it is. I'm gonna test and report back
[HD2 General] danusko:
I dont know if will carusel works without Chainfire patch.

Now i can not install new SPB shell, because i am at work.

In my current vs of SPB 3D carusel works, but it was slower as normal carusel. I have of course installed Chainfire patch.
[HD2 General] mightymn:
Yes guys !! it works without the patch and it's smoother than before!
[HD2 General] danusko:
its good news and

any other changes what you noticed in new shell?
[HD2 General] Henry_Lee:
Great. :)

But I installed patch anyway. :)
[HD2 General] ruriruri:
MS3.5 on HD2 would be nice.

Personally I like to store my contacts on SIM card, this saves me from doing backups.

MS3.5 allows me to add SIM contact to the favorite page into a nice big button. On HD2, I have to go through the contact list as HD2 does not allow me to add SIM contact to the favorite tab.
[HD2 General] donSjon:
everything is also working for me now.

I've been testing SPB MS3.5 for a few days now, and haven't noticed any problems yet... (fingers crossed)
[HD2 General] tsaojam:
I've just installed Mobile Shell onto my HD2...personally I've never liked touch flo in any form simply because I don't find it very efficient nor intuitive. It looks great, but I'm definitely a function over form person...and I personally think MS looks nice enough as well.

so far no problems, and everything running very smoothly.
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
I've had MS for years, never liked TF3D or Sense...and some people have made some amazing add ons and widgets.
[HD2 General] mamv:
Landscape with g-sensor

Is anyone able to put mobile shell in landscape mode using g-sensor? If yes, how?

Thanks in advance.
[HD2 General] donSjon:
a reg hack is needed in the following keys:

HKCU\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor\Modulename

HKCU\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor\Whitelist

The exact details I don't know.

But it is also possible with this tool (BSB Tweaks 1.6 for HTC HD2): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=589305

it has a feature to automatically add an application. (it will just add the correct fields in the regkeys I mentioned)
[HD2 General] mamv:
Spb Auto Rotation Fix

Thanks DonSjon,

I had already tried to use BSB Tweaks, but I could only enable the Main Page rotation, when I pressed Favourites for example it returned to portrait mode. If I went to BsBTweaks and added the Favourites to rotarion I could enable it but I would loose the rotation of the main page.

I found out that it was because since the exe is the same, only the whitelist changed, BsB would replace the old with the new one.

I've developed a little cab enabling auto rotation in SPB Shell for the Home, Main and in Carousel View.
[HD2 General] joggie555:
its fine and fast looks great but to complicate

its fine and fast looks great but to complicate
[HD2 General] bakskj:
Anyone else experienced that touch x task manager does not work with version 3.5.3? I used 3.5.1 before and there touch x task manager worked.
[HD2 General] SDBArbifox:
Working

I have Both Sense and SPB 3.5 work by using a cab that allows me to switch cleanly between the 2 shells. The only problem I seem to have is that I loss me sec today page setting every so often.

Other than that I very happy.

If interested in the App search for TF3D to Mobile Shell Switcher
[HD2 General] Szior:
SPB MS 3.5.2 and 3.5.3 disables taskmanager in the upper right corner

Ive had the same problem. 3.5.2 and 3.5.3 hides the TaskManager, with 3.5.1 everything was fine. Im not satisfied with the TM included in Mobile Shell, so I rather use the Sense until this isnt fixed... :mad:
[HD2 General] danusko:
I use MS 3.5.3 with WkTask manager and most of function works fine. Only som bugs are there, but for me is this task manager the best.
[HD2 General] mmmalas:
I really like the look of the 3d screens rotation.

I would be interested if I can use that for switching tasks
[HD2 General] danusko:
now you can use it only for switching for default screen as home, launcher, spb menu, call log, favorite contacts, spb contacts, contacts carousel, weather, weather conditions, agenda, time.
[HD2 General] tanzi:
I have been trying to use spb shell for a few days, I think its a great app but the one main problem I am having is that I can't open my SMS messages I have tried all sorts of things but I just can't open them, does anyone know if this can be fixed? :(
[HD2 General] danusko:
i had the same problem and only solution for this was hard reset..:( but after reinstall all apps it works OK
[HD2 General] danusko:
i add only:

hard reset mean

turn off device, press both volume buttons and during press ON/off button, then continue base instruction on screen. But all infos will be deleted. Maybe you know this :)
[HD2 General] fredst:
youtube any1?

Could some of you please upload a youtube movie of your device running either only spb or both sense and spb.

this thread sounds so exciting and i personally am in love with the HD2 hardware but i cannot stand the sense UI ( I try to use it as on the hero and get frustrated >_<) If spb or a combo would work i would probably buy the HD2. so please show your stuff off! :D
[HD2 General] danusko:
Ok,

here is my, but it is very poor quality, because i dont have better camera :(. Only my old phone :)

But maybe for imagine it helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N0kJxOGuyo
[HD2 General] globalgpj:
I am a SPB 3.5.3 Mobile shell user, and instead of the stock HTC rom, I used a cook rom, Mire lite ver1.2. It, is super quick and without the sense UI. So, it is possible and after having, six other devices, there is nothing like the HD2.

See Miri's ROM at: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=614006

He has two versions of an excellent cooked rom, lite and full(includes sense ui)
[HD2 General] globalgpj:
I thought I had the same problem.

I didn't see the hidden START tab in the top left corner of the screen. You can't see it, but if you press in that corner, the standard WM 6.5 buttons appear. This happens even if I am using SPB Mobile Shell. You can see the START tab on bootup, if you watch closely.

Everything is working fine at the moment.
[HD2 General] Kjohnsen:
I just tryed out the free trial for 15 days or something like that, and as it expired i just bought it.. Im very glad with it. It works fine for me.

Now im just playing around with some modifications. ^^
[HD2 General] clockworxx:
Globalgpj - I have just downloaded a trial version of SPB Mobile to run on my existing 1.48 ... ROM (I am waiting to see if the HTC 1.66 ROM (when released for the UK!) is better). If that doesn't work, I either take the phone back to the shop or try one of the cooked ROMs. So far, I quite like the SPB software. I see you are using a Miri ROM. Are you able to tell me if the annoying (from my perspective :)) wake on any button is implemented in the Miri ROM or whether the device only wakes on pressing the power button?

Thanks in advance ...
[HD2 General] donSjon:
anyone tested SPB MS 3.5.3 with the new rom 1.66?
[HD2 General] Danielfr:
I have tried it with Miri's Rom 2.2 ( based on Rom 1.66) and it works fine.

If you want to have the HTC menus instead of the default windows menu

you have to add the cab 'enable_htc_menus.cab' . (I don't remember where I found it on Xda)

Daniel
[HD2 General] abc14732003:
i found a problem, when i connect with pc (any modes), if i switch the home screen left & right / click menu / or do anything on the device, then it will hang, although i can still click "start" or call button, but can't get back to spb shell screen.....then needs softreset

same case connect to pc, if do nothing on device, after unplug, it works normally.....

who knows why like that??
[HD2 General] dhamma:
SPB Mobile shell and Sence works great together

just instal

http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-482644.html
[HD2 General] clockworxx:
Have been running it since last night. So far so good. I still think the HTC SMS spp is a bit sluggish, so I'm looking to move to a lean cooked ROM and find some alternative SMS app if possible. The SPB MS 3.5.3 3.5.3 works fine so far.
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
I tried this a while back, and it doesn't work that great. on MS you can't open SMS messages, you have to open them in sense.

so I quickly took this off again. It's a great idea and would be soooo great if it worked...but it didn't work for me sadly.
[HD2 General] donSjon:
for me it doesn't work at all.

the sense keep popping up when i'm using spb MS and i cannot hide it :-(

to bad, I hoped it would work as I'm missing the HTC music player.
[HD2 General] ianjd:
This is fixed now.
[HD2 General] anonemous:
Interesting thread....

I opened my HD2 box when it arrived and the very first app I installed on it was SPB Mobile shell. It was annoying that after installing it if you touched the home key it took me back to the stupid Sense screen.

I had to go into the system section of the shell to find the start override option which solved that issue.

SPB mobile shell works so quickly on this phone and when you enable the 3d accelerator and show people the carousel spinning in glorious 3d you see lesser apple sheep start hiding their phones...

I think the that the shell gives waaay more option for customization than "no sense" and the capacitive screen thing still works in the album no problems.
[HD2 General] globalgpj:
Sorry for the late reply, I have been away for a few days on a great holiday !

Everything works fine. I have never seen any wake ups. Many us find miri's rom the best. I use the latest rom and the specific radio for this version to max the performance. I use many resco and spb products.

So, the speed is fantastic, I install xtask as a task manager which works great and a few other cabs. I have about 20+ programs installed.

Best phone I ever had. I like the flexibility of the spb UI.

If you follow the advice and discussions on miri's thread, you can't go wrong.

Update/Edit: wake up is only on Power On Button. Not sure if you can customise this to suit you, but that is the default button and I am happy with that. :)
[HD2 General] Jimbo47:
SBP on HD2

Only major issue I have is that in SBP SMS messages cannot use the "reply" function in the 3D viewer thingy. anyone able to resolve this yet? Tried 3D acc on and off but makes no difference so have to revert to Sense UI to reply/open sms and emails

Weird yesterday it worked fine -today not? anyone know what might be causing this?
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
no it isn't

I can get into the list of messages...but not actually open any of them (in threaded mode). And if if I uninstall the app, I can't get back into my messages in threaded mode and need to hard reset...
[HD2 General] perern:
if u got shortcuts to manilla apps in start menu you can use that.

i got shortcut for htc messaging
[HD2 General] jonsmith709:
Hi all, I installed spb & like it alot, looking forward to spb 5 some time this year.

Great Forum by the way, learnt alot of stuff, cheers and keep up the good work;);):)
[HD2 General] woaloo:
Call HW button brocken.....

Hi,

I've this issue with SPB MS 3.5.3

If a want to make a call, I use the call hardware button, but the screen go back to SPB Home after 2 seconds, so I can't use phone app at all.

If I put a phone app shortcut on SPB home, I can launch phone app as usual, and every thing goes fine, I can make a call.

If I go to SPB settings, and if I quit the shell, hardware call button works like a charm.

So, it think that my problem is due to Mobile shell that auto close phone app, when it's launched with hardware button.

Maybe, mobileShell remap this button......

Do you have any idea....

PS: It's typically a HD2/Sence problem, because I haven't got this issue with my Acer S200 (same hardware than HD2 except screen size)
[HD2 General] Ibn MuSa:
I've tried, works fine! Thanks for the share
[HD2 General] Ibn MuSa:
somehow if i do soft reset,it doesn't work anymore.ie it is either sense or spb mobile shell but not both. to use sense,i've to uninstall spb mobile shell. so sad..

any ideas how to fix this?
[HD2 General] Ibn MuSa:
problem solved!

in spb mobile shell, hit launcher and go to today. it will ask you what you want to include in today screen and tick htc sense. problem solved!
[HD2 General] globalgpj:
Works fine for me . Not sure what could be causing this. I use Miri's custom roms.

This is the 6.5.x thread on HTCpedia where Miri has moved to for the time being.

http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1786

I use the Standard version 11.

Cheers.
[HD2 General] streamg:
hey guys

i installed Spb Shell and noticed that i dont have 3d effect in 3d message viewer,

picture is attached down

left one is with 3d effect right one is mine with no effect