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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Shasarak:
The screen has neither a brightness nor a contrast control in the normally-accepted sense of those terms. What it has is the ability to vary the intensity of the backlight, which is quite different. Even if it did have a contrast control, that would affect whites, not blacks. If black is not dark enough then your only option is to make the backlight dimmer. That, of course, will have no effect on sharpness.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] insp@compuserve.com:
I tried to download the Winmob 6.5 upgrade for the Touch Diamond 2 from HTC last week but was refused 'not suitable for this device'. When I queried it with HTC support I was told that my phone was an Eastern European model and the ROM upgarde for these won't be available for another week. Is there are reason why I can't load the UK flash? (assuming I can get a copy) It would presumably make it easier to find the '£' on the key pad!

Thanks

John
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] fjgotgame24:
Ok...so my tp2 is verizon and I did the whole hardspl thing and somehow got the energyrom leo on my fone, and then wen i tried to update to the new sense 2.1 extreme rom, i dont know wat happened. It said to use this custom ruu thing which i clicked on, and wen it updated my fone, my fone does absolutely nothing now cept loading the start screen where it says Touch pro2

I new something was wrong becus at no point was the .nbh that i extracted used, but no ruu came with the file that i downloaded...sighhh so is my fone dead or wat? I tried hard resetting, and although i am able to get to the hard reset page, wen i actually do it, it still just freezes where touch pro2 screen comes out
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] starscalling:
dont trip

i've 'bricked' most of my phones i've played with at least once. If your getting anything your ok - go to boot loader mode, reflash the original rom on it, then the one you want. Make sure your battery has a good charge also ^^
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] fjgotgame24:
ok so im uploading this rom rite now http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91940..the verizon one, once i get that do i have to do the hardspl thing again? btw thanks so much for the bootloader thing, i didnt know how to do it, i kept doing the hard reset..lol

* i got the stock rom back, thanks alot...do i need to hardpl it again? could sum1 help me flash to the another rom as well, i just dont know wat to do wit the nbh
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] starscalling:
it wouldnt hurt. Just pretend youve never done anything to the phone.

Write or type out a list of steps for each phase

print it out and cross them off one by one.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] orobas:
thanks

Thanks my TP2 now is working
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] starscalling:
sweet

just had the black screen of death - lol was like - THE THREAD OF DEATH CURSED ME :> [all good now of course]
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] scottGx:
Failed flashing with CustomRUU.exe

Every flash has failed (freezes at "Touch Pro2" boot screen) when I tried to use a ROM that uses CustomRUU.exe (Miri, Cell_Pro, Athine, AF, Shadowline, and others). Flashing ROMs that use ROMUpdateUtility.exe already extracted flash fine. I've even tried first flash the original Sprint stock ROM and then flashing a "CustomRUU" ROM but without success. I've also extracted the files from the CustomRUU.exe and then run it with the nbh file but that doesn't work either. HTC Touch Pro2 (Sprint)

Any suggestions?

-Scott
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
You're flashing CDMA ROMs, right? Not the GSM only ones found here, but CDMA ones from elsewhere, like here? Try flashing one of the CDMA ROMs found at the second link, and see if that works, because I think you may be flashing GSM ROMs onto your CDMA device, which would explain why it flashes, but doesn't boot properly. Hope that helps
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] scottGx:
Apparently, I was flashing a GSM ROM. There really should be better indication of what the ROM is designed for than simply being in a particular form. It wouldn't be any trouble to add a few characters (GSM/CDMA) to the file name to make it clear.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] defiantone:
My Verizon tp2 is stuck on the TOUCH pro2 screen when it tries to boot.. It will not hard or soft reset. So it's not being recognized by my pc to do the hardspl thing. I was trying to flash the perfectblack rom but it said it was not for my device...so i tried Energy rom.. it flashed but will not boot.. please help...how do i fix this.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] defiantone:
Well...I took it back to Verizon...they are sending me another one. Have to figure out what I did wrong because I truly wanted to try a cooked rom or two.

Back to the drawing board.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] dwizzy130:
Wait, you are sending Verizon your phone with a non-booting cooked ROM and the HSPL on it?!?

If they figure that out, there's a good chance you'll be SOL.

dwizzy130
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] PRBajista:
Exactly. Even if you have insurance on the TP2, if you sent it back with anything that is not stock, your insurance is probably voided, they probably wont give you your phone back, and you might even have to pay full price for a new one. Good luck man. Definitely should have held out for some responses before you sent it out. If you haven't then that's good, but if you did, your probably out of luck.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] bomix:
Why didn't you try what the orginal poster did?

I loaded a GSM rom on my Sprint TP2, I wasn't paying attention to the orginal

Post and just thought oh.. I want this rom..

What I did,

Turn on the device while holding down the Power button and the Volume Down key. If you see Serial and 3-4 colored bars plug in your USB, and reflash with a CDMA Rom.

This fixed my Phone. Credits to the gurus at PPC Geeks. if i find the topic later I'll post it.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] ygohome:
*edit: nevermind ;)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Mardibob:
*edit: problem resolved
[HD2 General] niknik76:
Hi there!

Could anyone owning a HD2 check how SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 is running on it?

Software Trial:

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/download.html
[HD2 General] Tomo1340:
That's an interesting question. I have just put SPB MS 3.5 on my TP and it completely disabled my Touchflo. If that were to happen on the Leo then I would think it might stop the capacitive screen working.
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
I've had MS on every windows device I've ever owned (5 of them) yet this might be the first time I stick with TF3D....the new 'sense' as it's being called looks so good it might just be the thing that I want.

TF3D was all form and no fucntion, it was far to difficult to perform any real use and just increased the number of presses and swipes needed to actually do anything. The new one doesn't seem to suffer the same thing....but I'll only be able to tell once I get my hands on it
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Why would it stop the screen working?
[HD2 General] Tomo1340:
WM 6.5 isn't designed for capacitive screens, I suspect that HTC have programmed it to work in the TouchFlo3.5 Sense UI, as such disabling it could potentially render the screen useless.
[HD2 General] mallman:
the start menu works as well as the other native microsoft screens. I doubt sense has anything to do with the screen actually working. IN fact, there are devs ripping sense out of there and making a lite version of the Leo ROM as we speak.
[HD2 General] Ruudfood:
What would a lite version of the Leo ROM actually include if Sense is ripped out?
[HD2 General] mskip:
TouchFlo is ONLY a front screen interface and in no way takes over the control of your device from Windows Mobile. Im sure the correct drivers and everything are in place to make the capacitive screen work perfectly with WM6.5 or you wouldnt be able to run any of the standard Windows Mobile Programs from the Start Menu.

TouchFlo can easily be disabled through the Today screen settings and other front screen interfaces such as Mobile Shell run in its place. The 2 cannot run side by side but as with any other phone you can turn 1 off and start another quite easily.

The only problem with newer Windows Mobile versions such as 6.5.1 is that they have a menubar at the bottom for easy operation of the Start Menu, ok button and other things. From my experience this menubar isnt disabled when Mobile Shell is installed meaning that it overlays the bottom menubar in Mobile Shell, which in turn causes problems. Im sure spb will fix this problem as WM advances and adds more touch friendly functionality.
[HD2 General] l3v5y:
The things that said capacitive on WM was unsupported are utter rubbish. What it requires is an OEM to write drivers for it. Since HTC have done this, it's supported.

Manila is just a UI enhancement, it's not anything to do with the screen, the drivers etc.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
But it's a UI enhancement designed to increase usability on a device with a capacitive screen. Without the new version of Manila you won't necessarily have access to the HTC-skinned versions of WM6.5 utilities, which means you'll be back to using software that is designed to be used with a stylus on a platform that doesn't support stylus use.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I only took a short glimpse into a Leo ROM, and it's different from, say, Topaz/Rhodium ones in that Manila is broken into more packages (Core, Music, Settings, Footprints etc.). So it might theoretically be possible to use just some Manila features if someone bothers to actually investigate the opportunities and do an insane amount work required to materialize them.
[HD2 General] Tomo1340:
Fair comments, I was under the impression that the drivers were part of HTC sense. Also that HTC sense is designed to not be turned off so easy. So from that I drew a natural conclusion that if you were able to turn Sense off, or an application forced it off like SPB MS3.5 does then that would make the drivers not function as they were part of the working Sense UI.
[HD2 General] TrYde:
On my TYTN2 with WM 6.5.1.23053, there's no overlay with MS3.5. Not sure what build of MS you are using but for me it's just fine.

I have tested MS3.5 on Acer F1 (same CPU as HD2) and it was very smooth. However, when going in landscape, it was slower than my TYTN2 in landscape. It could be a graphic driver issue, which I hope won't be on HD2.
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
Righto guys - got the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 trial installed on my MD2 - what do you want me to test?

It has a very Android feel to the OS - kinda parallex scrolling background...

Once installed, it disables the Sense UI.
[HD2 General] mskip:
MD2? :rolleyes: I think we already sorted out that it will work fine with TouchFLO disabled LOL :D
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
Sorry meant HD2. :)

I didnt disable TouchFlo - it did it itself.

One thing i've noticed, if you enable hardware acceleration on the SPB, the whole 'carosol' goes slow and unresponsive...

I thought it would be better as the HD2 is meant to use OpenGL?
[HD2 General] 4pe:
oh no, not again! no drivers......
[HD2 General] mskip:
I guess it depends how spb makes use of hardware acceleration enabled devices. With it turned off it should still run very fast and smooth so not too much to worry about i think. You should install one of my MS3.5 themes (in my sig) and see how it looks I think it would look nice with ProPlus Elegance and all the extra widgets :D
[HD2 General] mskip:
The HD2 has OpenGL drivers as proved in this stress test against the original HD *HERE*
[HD2 General] niknik76:
Cool WildWayz! Thanks a lot, I'm just happy that it works and doesn't have quirks of one or the other kind :)

Yes you should try and mess around with some of mskip's stuff if you like

Maybe you can say how the general feel is? Speed/smoothness -how is it on the capacitive screen? And I don't know if you intend to keep on using it -but it would be very interesting to hear if there is an effect on battery life..

cheers!
[HD2 General] pongster:
Try to use the webview from the link posted right after I posted... it should work:)
[HD2 General] lwlee:
Thanks. Will look at all webview threads on xda.
[HD2 General] CHIxCITY:
whooo twitter n facebook work now...
[HD2 General] christofurry:
SPB MOBILE SHELL 3.5 use

In answer to your question (?), I have spb MS running and thinks it's great - much more tweakable then Sense (although I do like Sense and miss the music player). I used the trial version for 15 day. Then went back to Sense but missed spb too much so spent the £26 to register. I haven't regretted it yet and I'm as tight as a frog's bottom (which is water tight).

hth

Chris
[HD2 General] vikramdeepsingh:
not working

When i press the button show today in the SPB M S it not showing anything except the blank screen.
[HD2 General] vikramdeepsingh:
want manilla settings to run

i can't run the manilla settings in SPB MS. eg volume for ring and system. through SPB MS it is not working.
[HD2 General] razvan_real_one:
3d message viewer problem

any ideea why I can't see messages in 3d viewer like this with that flipping left corner and last messages fade to black even if I have enabled hardware accelerator. any solution?
[HD2 General] mskip:
If you have Spb Mobile Shell running then HTC Sense is disabled and no Sense apps will work.

Mark.
[HD2 General] mskip:
What do you get if you open the 3D viewer?

Can you provide a screen shot?

Mark.
[HD2 General] razvan_real_one:
this is what I get in 3d viewer

spb told me that they don't have hardware acceleration support for my device.

it is HTC HD2 :-??
[HD2 General] David Sade:
The best thing to do for your HD2 is to purchase and instal SPB Mobile Shell and SPB Backup (absolutely essential). They both work fine, and I would also recommend SPB Keyboard.

You can also download free UI switching software to alternate UI's if you so desire.

Good luck!
[HD2 General] mskip:
Whose question was this answering?

Do you work for Spb by any chance lol :rolleyes:

Spb Backup is very good as long as you only restore to the same rom you made a backup on. Otherwise it could cause instability issues as settings can vary greatly between custom Roms.

Mark.
[HD2 General] WINE GLASS:
Anyone got the sms viewer 3D folding animation working yet?
[HD2 General] HelloH:
(One of) "The best thing" to do for your HD2 is to install Android on it, enjoy the very latest Sense, and the whole Android Market with its gazillion apps. And forget about that stone-age WM nonsense like SBP.
[HD2 General] nrfitchett4:
yeah if only android on the hd2 would give me the same data signal strength (at work I can get 1-3 bars of hspa+ on winmo, but am constantly stuck in edge on Android).

Sorry, but if spb MS 5.0 is anything like the promo videos it will blow all current android homescreens out of the water.
[HD2 General] WINE GLASS:
Why would you get a HD2, then slate it and want android on it? just get a android handset in the first place.

Up until windows phone 7, winmo was the best, most customizable do anything handset.

Beats the do da's out of android and all the other rubbish OS's.
[HD2 General] xaccers:
Even after WP7, winmo will still be the best, most customizable do anything handset.

WP7 is more restrictive and lacking more features than the iPhone!
[HD2 General] WINE GLASS:
2002, 2003, 5, 6, 6.1, 6.5, had all at some point, all have been far ahead of anything else.

7, no chance i will touch it, don't like the look of it, the limitations, lack of customizability.

I can't see how it deserves the windows name.

Surely zune mobile or something would be more suited.

Even with the promises that development will continue with 6.5, everything has been dropped in the favour of the inferior windows phone 7, looks like the age of the so called smartphone for retards is well upon us. ( i mean no offence in any way by that remark, it is just the name i have heard it called many times and it seems apt. )

The only thing winmo has needed is a better UI, spb is by far the best, i can't stand the sense UI, and very nearly did not get the HD2 because of it, but glad i did now.

Apart from the intrusive HTC parts like HTC messaging, it has got to be one of the best handsets on the market.
[HD2 General] xaccers:
Very well said!

Zune phone would have been a much better name, or perhaps Duplo phone :D

Over on the WP7 backstage forums, when you point out the features that it's lacking, they'll say you don't need them and it's a new paradigm.

Sorry, but if someone has to resort to using "paradigm" they've lost the argument :D
[HD2 General] WINE GLASS:
Had to do a search to see what paradigm meant, this is what came up.

Paradigm is a fictional mutant character in the Marvel Comics Universe, created for their comic book series X-Force. His first appearance was in X-Force #87.

:)
[HD2 General] donSjon:
ontopic?

sorry, but all this is off topic, this is not the place to discuss this.

but I will also go offtopic :p:

HD2 rules with winmo 6.5 and MS, I will never touch winmo 7. my next phone will probably be an Android because I will have no choice.
[HD2 General] lolocristi:
Does anyone know how to use htc calendar from the SPB no Sense to go into
[HD2 General] donSjon:
I don't think that is possible.
[HD2 General] sydneyrodgers:
MS3.5 works GREAT of a HD2. I like it much better than Sense as far a useability & flexibility.Instead of discussing it to death, just download the trial version & find out for yourself.
[HD2 General] iroczinoz:
Found a nice video tutorial how to switch between Sense and SPB no installs required.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7SusCHwQ2s
[HD2 General] mskip:
Or you could install my Shell Sense Switcher (in my sig) which switches back and forth with 1 click and even allows you to put an icon on the main screen to make it even quicker ;)

Mark.
[HD2 General] iroczinoz:
Awesome stuff, have downloaded the cab and be sure to try it out. Thanks!
[HD2 General] HelloH:
The data situation did improve with the latest builds. You might wish to try the latest darkstone HD2Froyo V3.
[HD2 General] donSjon:
has anyone tested MS with the new HD2 rom?
[HD2 General] mskip:
It works fine on the new rom.

Mark.
[HD2 General] Revhead:
Hey guys,

Some advice please. Waiting for my HD2 to arrive.

Have been using Mobile Shell for some time with mskip's great WP7 theme on my Omnia.

Given that I will be installing both of these progs on my new HD2 - what ROM do your recommend.

From my limited understanding of the HD2 so far, I am guessing a Com2 ROM would be better because that way I wouldn't run into probs with the bottom taskbar?

(Mark I couldn't find the particular Duttys ROM that you have in your sig?)
[HD2 General] MicroBoI:
Its so laggy after installing
[HD2 General] boomboomer:
No lag on my phone with mobile shell, make sure you disable sense before installing/starting shell.

Can't comment on the ROM or taskbar issue, I'm using it with stock 3.14 without any issues.
[HD2 General] mskip:
Duttys latest COM2 Rom (multi language v7) is *HERE*

Mark.
[HD2 General] David Sade:
Spb mobile shell 3.5.3

The best thing to do to yourself and to your HD2 is to install SPB MOBILE SHELL 3.5.3. You can also get SHELL SWITCHER 1.05 in order to switch between HTC Sense and SPB. You may also look at SPB BACKUP without which I coulodn't exist. Also, I am using SPB Keyboard too, as the original HTC is a piece of garbage when it comes to predictive text... Good Luck!:)
[HD2 General] mskip:
As mentioned before (I think) do you work for spb as you seem to like promoting their products and you have sent a similar message to this in this thread before..

In any case why would you recommend Mobile Shell 3.5.3 when the current version is 3.5.5?

Mark.
[HD2 General] Revhead:
Hey Mark,

Got an HD2!

I thought about putting Duttys ROM on it as you suggested, but I thought there was probably no point if I'm just going to be running SPB and your WP7 scheme?

Am I missing out on anything major that I should consider before getting any deeper into modifying it?

I've got to say things sure look better in beautiful 480x800 WVGA compared to my old Omnia at 240x400!
[HD2 General] mskip:
Glad you finally got your HD2 mate :D

If you go into your system settings can you tell me what version rim you have on your phone.if you have the newer 3 series rom then there isn't too much point although custom roms do have compressed htc graphics which usually gives you alot more device memory.

Everything looks better on a bigger screen ;)

Mark.
[HD2 General] Revhead:
Is this what you mean?

CE OS 5.2.21913 (Build 21913.5.0.94)
[HD2 General] Imran shehzad:
SBP

Yeah i have HTC HD2 and i am using Sbp its very nice in flow and working everything. but if you will use cookies home tab it will not work smoothly.
[HD2 General] felixoncrusoe:
After installing Pro Plus Freedom, it will be possible to use this switcher or not? Thanks!
[HD2 General] mskip:
ProPlus Freedom already has the links to switch between Sense and MobileShell included so you only need to install the cab if you want to switch to the Today Screen aswell.

Mark.
[HD2 General] ToddeSwe:
That is not correct i think, i watched a video with some sort of manager or PR guy from HTC that said that you could not unable or shut off the TF3D on HD2, but he also said that some might figure out a way to do so. :)
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Well, maybe this manager was wrong and doesn't quite know how his company's software works, maybe it was wishful thinking and his engineers lied to him, but it's also possible that he meant that it cannot be disabled completely - there may be bits and pieces left over in various places.

With regard to SPB Shell and acceleration - I have yet to find a piece of software made by them that's not buggy as hell somewhere, plus I'm sure it works with OpenGL 1.1, while the Leo has 2.0, n'est-ce pas?
[HD2 General] precsmo:
At first SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 looks cool to me, and kinda like Android replica. But I don't like it anymore at all and the HTC sense kinda better to me, at least to me.
[HD2 General] ebb:
That's interesting- using 23081 based ROM on TP2, it overlays. Maybe its a WVGA thing rather than the WM build. Hope there's a fix shortly. Agree that manilla 2.5 is very good, and much improved, but its not mobile shell.
[HD2 General] adidanuleasa:
could you please tell me how did you switch from one to the other. actually how do you disable spb shell and go back to sense? i can't find that setting... ty!
[HD2 General] mskip:
I would assume you just goto spb menu (or launcher), settings, spb mobile shell, Menu button (bottom right), exit shell.
[HD2 General] adidanuleasa:
Really true. My question seems more stupid every time I read it. Thanks a lot anyway! :o
[HD2 General] mallman:
i turned mine off lol, i like titanium better. It isn't hard, just do it as the other guy said, through the today screen settings
[HD2 General] Audio Oblivion:
landscape mode?

i have spb shell 3.5.1 installed and it doesnt switch into landscape mode on the lifestyle home page.

has anyone had this problem or has any idea what is happening?

i have gyrator installed

every screen rotates but this one.

i want to apply the reg hack to add SPB shell to the g sensor whitelist but i dont know what class spb shell is.

if anyone knows what this is or has any better ideas to get spb shell to switch to landscape mode whilst on the lifestyle home page please let me know!
[HD2 General] Elving:
in my case when spb mobile shell is activated, I can not see my sms. I click on a sms but it does not open. It's the same thing if I try to open settings (start menu -> settings) ...
[HD2 General] pzaka:
I have this issue also. Change back to traditional view and you will be able to open the messages.
[HD2 General] niknik76:
Weird, I didn't have that problem... SMS worked fine for me..
[HD2 General] Elving:
Sorry but I'm not sure to understand; what is the traditional view ? And how to change it ?

Hmm I suppose you talk about traditional view for the sms, right ?