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[Hero CDMA General] thecodemonk:
Hey, thanks for seperating out all your questions! That makes it a lot easier to read!

Ok, time for answers...*cracks fingers*

Recovery ROM doesn't modify your OS, just changes the OS it boots into when you go into "Recovery Mode" (Volume Down+Power, then Home). This is where Nandroid will be (there's a backup and a restore option there...it drops the backup to the sdcard).

When you flash a recovery image, you are still on the factory/stock OS, nothing has changed there. However, if you want to go back after a custom ROM, the Nandroid restore option will be there to pop you back (as if you never left!).

If you want to go back to factory settings, as if you just bought it, there's an official RUU (Rom Update Utility) you can download...check out the stickies in the android development section. :)

Root things just require the "asroot2" instructions (one of the threads in this forum (How to Root)...shouldn't be hard to spot). That's all that's needed to my understanding.

The Recovery ROM is more just there for Nandroid and if you want to install a custom ROM (like MoDaCo's).

Hope I didn't miss anything!

EDIT: Oh and one more thing, Nandroid just makes an image of the last Nandroid backup to the sdcard. If you want (and I do this), after a nandroid backup, copy off the nandroid folder and rename it (I did nandroid-[date or changes]). Then you can go back to any point in time, drop the folder back in, rename it to "nandroid" and restore.
[Hero CDMA General] QuiQNeZZ:
I'll take a stab

Hope that helps.
[Hero CDMA General] johnsongrantr:
lots-o-questions

1)that guide will work just fine

2)recovery rom isn't a "recovery" of your stuff, you are pushing a custom recovery environment so you can flash custom files on your phone

3)there's a nandroid backup application once you flash the custom recovery to your phone, try backing up, then restoreing to build confidence (backup your /sdcard/nandroid afterwords)

4)don't worry about that... it's in the custom recovery... you'll see it once you flash it to your phone... and the custom recovery will not effect any functionality if you just want to stop at that step and take a breather... it's kinda stressfull

5)self explanitory once you get in there... it's like option 3 in custom recovery once you flash it to your phone

6)find the cdma sprint RUU ... there's links to it spralled across this forum and if you check my past posts I just posted a link to it eairlier today and yesterday evening

7)all the apps you mentioned are built into modoco's custom cdma rom in this thread and work fine out of the box.... i can't vouche for apps2sd cause i only flashed his 1.1 build.... haven't tried 1.2 yet

hope this helps.... and agian... the info is out there if you are willing to find it and if one of us gets a chance we'll try to find answers to the problems you have along the way ;)
[Hero CDMA General] fx17:
so where do I find Nandroid executables?

thanks
[Hero CDMA General] fx17:
OK, I think I got it. The recovery image is just a small file you flash to the device that lets you load other roms. Is that right?

Its the RUU rom, nandroid, or custom roms that you load using the recovery mode right?

thanks
[Hero CDMA General] QuiQNeZZ:
It's not an executable file, it's an image file. It's in the how-to link you posted above. "download http://www.androidspin.com/downloads...roc-v1.2.3.img and place that into the same directory you extracted asroot2."

After you successfully root your phone you need to follow the directions at the end of the how-to in order to flash this image to your phone. This is basically like a "bootloader".

Once you have done this, the next time you hold down home while pressing power you will get the following screen...

This is where you do your flashing/backups/restore.
[Hero CDMA General] thecodemonk:
That's pretty much right!
[Hero CDMA General] fx17:
Now I get it. Most of the work has been done! that makes it a lot easier.

thanks guys.

One final question. how big are the backups that nandroid makes? How much free space do I need on my sd card?
[Hero CDMA General] auto_exec:
Mine was somewhere around 240MB.
[Hero CDMA General] fx17:
thanks guys! this forum is the best!

Got my Hero rooted, recovery flashed, and nandroid backup made!
[Hero CDMA General] kr9091:
does the nandroid backup make a copy of your system apps just in case I want them back after I wipe my phone?
[Hero CDMA General] thedudejdog:
yes.

basically its a image of the phone at that moment in time.

so you should always backup before you flash anything (themes, roms, beta apps) and i try to backup at least once a week just in case anything happens.

you can copy your nandroid folder to your PC also, that will keep your backup safe if you format/mess up the sd card.

if all else fails, then you can always RUU back to the shipped software and start over at square 1
[Hero CDMA General] kr9091:
Awesome thanks for the quick reply. Is there really any advantages of wiping my phone instead of just installing a custom ROM over the stock? I have been searching for DAYS here on the forums but can't seem to find a straight answer. Thanks again for all the help!! :)
[Hero CDMA General] thedudejdog:
some roms will need a wipe before flashing. but others you can get away with no wipe.

pretty much, if you change firmware (1.6,2.0,2.1) you will have to wipe before it will boot. but if you just flash a android 1.5 rom (ttg, fresh, modaco, gumbo, gutted...the list goes on) you shouldn't need to wipe, it is recommended if you have any problems tho.

android isn't like windows mobile you can flash rom after rom after rom on-top of the other as long as you don't change firmware versions (for the most part)

so.... if after the flash you have a lot of force-close messages or if the phone doesn't boot you will need to wipe data. but other than that you should be good.
[Hero CDMA General] gu1dry:
If you are flashing an Android 1.5 based ROM, you usually don't have to wipe before flashing; I do so I have a clean slate to flash on. If you are flashing a non-Android 1.5 based ROM, then you do have to wipe, or at least it's highly recommended.

EDIT: Damn thedudejdog beat me to it. I need to stop bouncing around so many tabs :p
[Hero CDMA General] kr9091:
Awesome Thanks so much for the help!! All of you guys in the forums are awesome!!! Keep up the good work!! :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roguestatuskat:
i am running cyans latest ROM and i keep trying to open the browser app and it keeps crashing, and so i switched to dolphin and it does the same thing now too

does anyone know how to fix this
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tazz9690:
i suggest wiping and reflashing the rom. i never had this problem with cyanogen before.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctorfugazi:
I had this happen when first stepped into donut. Go to that phones app manager and clear the cache for the browser app. Worked for me.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ^Apo^:
hey guys,

is there a rom like the one from the touch pro2, with WM6.5 and HTC Sence that is stock like?

which build has the RTM?

i want that my touch hd runs as smooth as the touch pro 2 from a friend of me. its with original 6.5 firmware and the speed is really very impressive, like on the old XDAs with 320x240...

greetings,

apo
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crashDebug:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=578338
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ^Apo^:
i've seen this release already, but this is manila, not sense.

touchflo was called manila till 2.1, since 2.5 its sense, isn't it?

i'll miss the programm shortcuts on the mail screen.

a few minutes ago i saw a post, where someone mentioned that WM 6.1 with sense 2.5 would be very performant like the touch pro 2. is anyone in here who could confirm that?

i want to flash a hd2 or touchpro2 stock rom :-D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] crashDebug:
sorry if i got you wrong; however, there actually IS a manila version called sense 2.1. it's the one with the weather displayed on the clock.

the touchpro2 stock rom has this version of htc sense (and kwbr released it for HD)

sense 2.5 (shortcuts on home) is meant for 1ghz cpu and thus it will never, ever, be as fast as in a HD2.

win6.1 + sense2.5 = no go as many features of sense 2.5 are heavily dependant on some wm6.5-specific updates
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jigners:
Yes, the Manila 2.1 version in the official Rhodium update is called HTC Sense. The closest to this Miri V30, Dutty R15, Dutty Holy Grail Man 2.1, and KBWR Topix 3.0.2
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ^Apo^:
thank you guys, now i'am actually trying the topix 3.1.2...

runs very very fast and stable! thats like our mobiles have to work!

but i miss the weather and the program shortcuts on the main screen :-(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jldiablo:
yes, Im kinda in this situation as well.

while enjoying the speed of sense 2.1, missing the weather and river flow pic album. Wonder why they don't put the weather animations in the weather tab. If they can display fine in homepage, surely they can show ok in the weather tab.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mancsoulja:
why dont vw put a v12 engine in a polo if they can put in a veyron? lol short answer, if they made every manila the same no1 would have any reason to buy a new and more expensive device :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] varunverma:
I know this is a loong shot but can't manila or sense be modified ?? like we take out some cabs from a ROM and make a new ROM, can't similar thing be done with manila/sense? take out the tabs we like and put in a new manila!!
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] QuiQNeZZ:
I don't know why the hell HTC or Google dissables predictive text in some forms like search, address boxes, password forms, but it is ANNOYING as hell. Now that we are rooted, would one of the many talented developers care to take a shot on removing this hindrance and allow predictive text in ALL forms?

Many thanks and a beer to anyone who can figure this out.

Oh and also, how about finding where the dictionary file is saved so that I can do a complete clean wipe and install without losing it.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] irishman06:
The MyBackup app from the android market will backup/restore your dictionary.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] QuiQNeZZ:
Nice, thanks for that info.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uccio67:
I would update the rom of my hero , but i see in many post in the web but i don't understand what is the best model to update the phone with APPLE MAC.

Can anyone helpme ?

I download the rom number 2.73.405.5wwe Italy user it's right or wrong ?

best regards

nice to meet to all
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Manssoor:
hello every one ...

can any one help me with my jasjam ...

i have this mobile and i want to upgrade to Russian version ...

i can't find any thing !!!

thanx a lot ...

Manssoor
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Manssoor:
can any one help me ??? please
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Manssoor:
please help me !!!!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reg442:
i've used my bar code scanner a couple of times with cy 4.2.3.1 and never heard the click, now i have the 2.0 cy's theme and the black notifaction bar flash, the damn thing makes a loud clicking noise by the ear piece ( im assuming that its comming from the speaker, but why).. any suggestions. and it wont let me scan any qr codes anymore just barcodes
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rp1783:
My phone does this too. I think it's the autofocus trying to read the code. It has always done this for me, although I don't have any issues with actual scanning.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reg442:
yea the noise is loud and it does appear to have something to do with auto focus, but i still cant scan qr codes.. i even tried to uninstall and when i reinstall, same thing happens.. i might try uninstall the theme and see if that helps, unless anyone else has any idea's.. no warrenty on a rooted phone right.... lol
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reg442:
ok found out its nothing to do with phone it wouldn't scan from this aoc computer screen.. scans perfect from any other screen.. no more clicking either.. problem solved:)
[Hero CDMA General] thorracing1:
Hi I have MoDaCo Custom Hero ROM and when i make a ex2 partition on the sd card my phone just loops at the sprint sprint and when i take the card out the phone boots and all my apps don't work.
[Hero CDMA General] thorracing1:
someone please help me:D
[Hero CDMA General] johnsongrantr:
double posting is bad unless there's a reason for it.... remove your sd card and see if you can get in

if that fixes it... try "SDPART:fat32 only" in custom recovery rom....

this should have been fixed in MoDaCo 1.1+... you are probally booting into stock rom with ext2 partition on your sd card if I had to take a leaping guess
[Hero CDMA General] thorracing1:
so if i do sdpart fat32 only will i still be able to install apps to sd?
[Touch Pro CDMA] fatherof2:
Hi,

this seems to be the right place for the question, but I'm sure the answer will be applicable to other phone. Assuming there is going to be an answer :confused:

Stupidly, yours truly downloaded and installed hotfix from here http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=140&act=sd&cat=all in the hopes of improving audio quality. Well, this apparently was not meant for CDMA (or US phones). After installing the phone rebooted and got stuck at the Touch Pro screen where it lists FW/SW versions in red towards the bottom. The phone can not get past that point no matter what I do (reset, battery remove/replace) or how long I wait (overnight). Sprint 'suggested' hard reset (thank you very much) and HTC said they have no fix for that either. Well, if you have not guessed it already, I have not backed up the data on that phone. Ever.

Not smart :(

The phone was running stock SF/FW before. I have not had time to mess with it.

US$64K question is: Could I retrieve the phone book? Any other data that was not on SD card (that one is safe)? Is there a chance to recover data AFTER hard reset? Anything else the smart folk out there can recommend?

Thanks a lot in advance.
[Touch Pro CDMA] kurtslashmx:
try flashing via SD card

If its stuck at the bootloader mode (the tri color screen) i thing its possible to flash it via SD card.

there is plenty of info around or check out the Raphael wiki.

There is a chance it is not bricked.

(i seriouslly doubt is it because the HTC hotfix cannot do that)

Let me know if you need any more help my email me at hotmail

best regards.... Erik
[Touch Pro CDMA] fatherof2:
The screen looks like this: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h15/cadillacjew/TP-1.jpg

with some test indicating SW/ROM etc versions in RED at the bottom. If it is important I can upload the picture of it.

Also may take you up on your offer. Need those contacts, otherwise I'm so screwed :eek:
[Touch Pro CDMA] Farmer Ted:
I dunno, it sounds like you're going to need a hard reset. That will fix the problem, I'm sure. Have you tried connecting by active sync? I'm 99.999% positive it won't work, but it wouldn't hurt to at least try and see if you can pull pim.vol off of it. Also, you might download ceregeditor (just google it) and install it on your pc, and see if you can dump the registry from the phone. But I have a bad feeling you're screwed.
[Touch Pro CDMA] fatherof2:
Is this really the end of the road?

Yes, I (and Sprint store that I went to) tried connecting the phone via usb and it was not even recognized as a device. Hard reset sounds goo, but it will erase the data. Before I take that drastic measure I'd like to make sure there is nothing else I could do.

I'm willing to pay some money to a forensics company to extract the data, but can not find one that looks trustworthy and experienced when it comes to Win mobile phones. Any recommendations, btw?
[Touch Pro CDMA] Farmer Ted:
I have no clue; you might try one of the rom dumping procedures. I think that some may dump the rom and all the info on the phone; I've never done it myself (well, I've played with grab_it on another device, with little success). I believe that some will dump all the info on the phone (rom + stuff in main memory). But I can't tell you how to do it, I'm afraid, and I have no clue if it will work on your phone.

You can check these tools-maybe there's something there.
[Touch Pro CDMA] MOBGangsta184:
Most likely everything is gone.
[Touch Pro CDMA] 88fingerslukee:
I have to sadly agree. This sounds like something only a hard reset would fix.
[Touch Pro CDMA] fatherof2:
Any possibility of data recovery after hard reset? Anybody knows of a way to that? Of course this is wishful thinking on my part, but I'm pretty desperate now.:(
[Touch Pro CDMA] egzthunder1:
Unfortunately, it seems that you are stuck. I do not know of any way to recover your data if the device is stuck on bootloader since, as you pointed out, the device does not get recognized by the computer.

Anything that you do at this point might end up making things worse if you are not careful. Just cut your losses and hard reset the device.
[Touch Pro CDMA] kurtslashmx:
its not in booloader mode, dumping the ROM sounds like a good and only way to go, try it, it wont hurt you, if that dont work i'd say its pretty much dead with no way to recover it, unless the info is unrecoverable (spell?) hard reset it.....

best regards. Erik
[Touch Pro CDMA] fatherof2:
The only issue with your suggestion is that I'm no longer in possession of the phone. I had to leave it in the Sprint store in order to walk out with working phone. I can go back to the store and try to get the data off of my old phone. They are holding it for me.

However, I need to know what to do exactly and be able to do it quickly. So if there are easy to follow instructions that you can point me to, please do so.

Also after dumping ROM what data will I have?

TIA for all your help.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Hammanu:
your data will be gone but try putting a raphimg.nbh file on the memory card then holding power and volume down while hitting the reset button, that will flash you off the mem card. good luck. Ive had to do this several times due to bad flashes and vista issues. Oh and as an added thought start using microsoft myphone to back up your data in the future.
[Touch Pro CDMA] fatherof2:
Thanks for your suggestion. I will try this in a week or so when I'm back in town.

Also myphone is something that should work. I actually did not know about it until this past Monday. I have not looked at any MS-based backup solutions because I'm not using their software, if I can avoid it. So while I have a Windows PC I do not have Outlook installed and thus have never given my phone a chance to sync up. Kind of silly, I know.

I had bitpm installed on another system that went bad. I've replaced it with a new one, retrieved other files and data, but forgot about Bitpm folder :(

So few lessons learned ...

Thanks again to all who provided feedback.
[Touch Pro CDMA] Farmer Ted:
It sucks if you lost everything, but you should be able to put your phone in bootloader and connect it to your pc through usb. The only question is if you can dump the rom that way and if you can dump all the files on it with the rom. The only problem is that some of the rom dumping methods (like with pdocread, I think) require you to transfer a file to your \windows directory, which you're not going to be able to do. It's a long shot at best.

I back up my pim stuff 3 different ways-I think you want to do it in multiple ways just to be safe. My main method is using sk tools and its backup tool. You can separately back up the pim database and the messaging databases (not as important to me). You can also back up email accounts with sk tools (using the pim information tool). These are my main backups, and I keep them on my sd card, and occasionally transfer them to a hard drive (it's not that big of a deal if the hard drive backup is a month out of date to me). I also use Pimbackup 2.8, and store that on my sd card (and hard drive). I don't use it for restoring anymore, because it's pretty slow with 6.5 roms in my experience. Finally, I have a file backup mortscript that I use that backs up user data for various apps; I use it to restore the data after flashes. Anyway, included in the script is a command to copy pim.vol to my sd card. I never restore my pim files by copying pim.vol back to main memory, but I like having it saved just in case, and it doesn't take any time to run the script (FYI-all your contacts, tasks and calendar stuff is stored in pim.vol, which is on the root of your device). Anyway, I feel like my pim databases are pretty safe-it would take an awful lot of bad things to happen for them to be lost, and I'd probably be dead in half of those scenarios, lol.
[Touch Pro CDMA] |Jason8|:
You're going to lose everything. The phone will not boot and as a result, all your data is unrecoverable. Next time, use a back up solution like Google Sync. :)

Do a hard-reset on it and you should be good to go. Turn the phone off, hold the volume down key, the center dpad key, and then hold the power button. It'll come up to a screen with hard reset instructions. Push the volume up key here. It'll be ready to go like it's brand new out of the box.
[Touch Pro CDMA] fatherof2:
Lost everything, but .... happy

Hi,

thanks to everyone who replied. Just wanted to post and update so we can close this thread.

As I indicated before, Sprint has replaced my phone with Touch Pro 2 when I came to them with this problem. They did it beacuse they no longer have loaner phones and because I was about to go on 10 day business trip.

After using the new phone for 2 weeks, I got to tell you that this one is a leap forward compare to the the old. So I'm happy with new device, installing software and trying to recreate my Address Book by dumping my friends and family's data via Bluetooth. Backing up using MyPhone and about to install Outlook (not going to use it for anything else but the backup)

Also, I finally went to Sprint store and asked them one more time if they can think of any other way to recover the data. I even mentioned bootloader. They did not know/could not do it. I asked them to hard reset and after few tries the phone was restored to it's original state. Not a trace of my data . :(

Would be nice if in the future I could save contacts (and other data) directly to SD card. IMO it will give better chance of recovery, but I'm not sure it is possible.

Again thanks to all who tried to help. Much appreciated.
[Touch Pro CDMA] jbailey49:
Same problem sort of

I tried to load Energy Rom 28005 and now can't get pro to do any thing but restart every 15 seconds or so. any ideas on what can be done? tia.:confused:
[HD2 General] BerreZ:
I made a shortcut of the taskmng from the windows folder to the start menu folder buut the icon is incredibily ugly in the sense interface.

And is there a way not to start the Sense interface to use the Windows 6,5 interface or SPmobile. I could not find the classical today menu .
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] luxa44:
i could no find any nice buttons for my programluncher. so i have made new transparent programluncher buttons.

i have manila 2.1.19193517 so i don't know if it works in other vesions

Download Here!

i made new rar file one file was missing

just copy files to windows dir

have fun =)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Thewizzz:
Where to copy these files? Just the \windows directory?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] luxa44:
Any one knows how i can make this 4 rows?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Dirk:
Works great and looks great on the Sense 2.1 that i have.

Good work fella, thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure Themes and Apps] Dirk:
Bumping this for OP.

This is a really nice tweak for anybody who may have missed it. It really does make the Programs tab look great.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Euroman28:
If one has a build of Windows Mobile made for a phone which has a different XIP and screen resolution than the xperia x1.

How does one do a socalled "port" and make this build run on the x1???