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[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gunner22:
Yes sms with radio 1.16 and rilphone 1.14 works properly as the 1.14 rilphone has the correct carrier information where as the 1.16 appears to have limited or just Korean carrier information.

If you search "rilphone" in these forums you'll come across one in the Raphael forum that goes into a fair amount of detail as to the function of the rilphone.dll file.

I understand what you say about liking a particular persons rom and not really wanting to change, as I prefer ITJE's roms (leo), but they are unusable as the SOD affects using it as an alarm clock and I've had freezes whilst in a call and typing a long sms and then losing it all.

Whereas the Untamed rom gives the most reliability, eye candy and modern features that you can get minus the bad issues. (Can't run galarm as it eats the battery, but the stock alarm has not let me down once).

I will only go back to ITJE'S roms (or anybodys Leo rom) when it's obvious by the feedback in these forums that those issues have been fixed.

Cheers,

Gunner22.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omidchini:
I think the ultimate solution IS the matching version of Radio and rilphone,

since the day i have matched these two i never got a SoD again!!!!

i has been a week since the last SoD i saw.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sugarcos:
could be, as i am using an original ROM and no SOD for more than 1 month, no problems, all it's perfect.

I like the eye candy from manila, and WM 6.5, but i will never make a compromise between that and the functionality of the phone.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Howshall:
I can confirm 1.16 radio with 1.14 rilphone.dll (1.14 rilphone comes pre-built in with Valkyrie 5.x) is fine for SMS under Valkyrie ROMS although if you're looking to avoid SoD's with a Valkyrie ROM best bet currently seems to be "valkyrie.ftp v5.4.23517 jan 06 wm6.5 without sms client+ conversation style email\outlook" which some people are okay from SoD with Manila on, but definately seems free of SoD without Manila enabled.

I'm still personally currently testing but check out khaled's review of this ROM for fuller info and screenshots.

Otherwise as Gunner22 said there have been a number of reports in this thread that Untamed has been successful for a number of different people previously getting SoD errors.

Also just remember that SD Card flashing is most reliable method for solid flash. Once you get the success message then take out battery, take out SD card, re-insert battery, press and hold silver buttons while powering on to get grey hard reset screen and only then allow ROM to go through normal startup.

Only re-insert SD card after phone has finished loading and also try to have flashed radio 1.16 and disabled 'Home timeout' in Start > Settings > Home > Home items panel as other currently theorised important settings to reduce likelihood of SoD.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wookario:
For me the riphone.dll and radio 1.16 trick didn't work. As soon as I've started charging the phone it stuck. Since then even while not charging it, the phone still gets sods :( I've been using valkyrie x1_firestorm_v5.5.23518LEO. Now I'll try to flash with the valkyrie 23517 as said above, using flash card. I'll see it if helps.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xperian:
Doesn't work. I have Valkyrie Firestorm 23517 (has riphone 1.14.25.55v) with Radio 1.16 and got a SoD this morning. Now I flashed the matching Radio version 1.14.25.55 and I'll see if it works in 24hrs...

PS: The thread for the 1.14.25.55 Radio is here.

PPS: I had the 2.02 LEO SMS client installed, maybe thats the issue I dont know. I hope it's not.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Howshall:
Suggested tweaks/further testing

@xperian: Sorry to head you had a Standby of Death on 23517 with recommended 1.16 Radio + 1.14 rilphone.

If you get more SoD's can I ask you to make sure that you've also done the other suggested things of:

i) Hard Reset without any SD Card installed

ii) Making sure 'Home timeout' is disabled within Start > Settings > Home > Items panel

If you continue to get failures to return the phone from Standby (rather than lockups or freezes while using the phone) can you try in that Home > Items panel switching off 'HTC Sense' and running with 'WM Default' (Titanium/Zune like interface) for 24hrs without changing anything else to help get more confirmation that likely problem is with Manila 2.5 interactions not the base ROM itself.

Many thanks for helping give more info.

@wookario: Please also let us know your 23517 experience, good or bad when you've had some time testing.

Personally:

On 23517 I'm now up to 3 days with no SoD's and very solid without Manila enabled, just progressively built up to enabling Manila on my 4th 24hrs test cycle and no SoD's in daytime use yet, but obviously it's overnight on mains charge that's the big test.

I'll continue to post my detailed daily updates for 23517 onto the end of http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5359866#post5359866
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
please try with Manila enabled this time ;)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xperian:
@Howsall: tried both disabling home timeout and no SD card hard reset last week and there were still SoDs.

However... With Radio 1.14.25.55 and matching riphone.dll on Valykrie 23517 I didnt get a SoD tonight!!

I'll post again here when I get my first SoD :-)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
strange ...i did the same flash radio 1.14 and matching ril but SoD existed ??? manila still the suspect, titanium is okay

So ...how is it? the big test result?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xperian:
!@#$% I'll throw this piece of @#$% in a corner and get me an iPhone. I can't believe it, got a SoD this morning even with matching versions (1.14.25.55). Manila enabled so I'll try disabling it now.

Oh the good old times where my trusty Nokia 3310 still sounded the alarm even if you turned it off... I really miss it!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darthmelk:
You can't blame your X1 if it doesn't work with some custom ROMs made by third parties, now can you? I would actually not blame SE, but the chefs for this.

Does ANYBODY have the SoD problem with Untamed ROM? I didn't test 1.3, but all versions until that were SoD free for me. The only thing I did before flashing Untamed was to flash the official R3A (with hard reset after each flash). I had SoD with all itje's 6.5 ROMS and they're gone now with McRusch and WildChild's 6.5 ROM. You can try that.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jezza0:
I have NEVER experienced SoD with any winmo 6.1 ROM. If SoD's are killing you, remember X1 is designed for 6.1, and like darthmelk says, you can't blame the manufacturers if it won't work right on beta software! I use Touch X 10.8.2, and I'm going to stick with this for the long-haul now. Kudos to Smaberg and MrRusch for a top-notch ROM: fun and functional in equal measure.:D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azaberl:
If somebody has Itje's 6.1 ROM, do you experiance SODs? (I think he made 6.1 ROM with Sense a little while ago)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
but Untamed doesn't have manila 2.5 cooked in,i think that is why ..
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
well, i don't know if it is THAT simple... :p

after a 2-months-odyssey i finally got back my x1 from repairs one week ago. i flashed two of itje's roms and am now finally on yyyyy's extendir for 4 days - all roms with manila 2.5 landscape...

not one SoD so far!!! *knocks on wood*

and i had them a lot before sending in my phone... (darthmelk, maybe you can remember :p )

they changed the casing, screen and hw-keyboard (incl. all other keys as well). but the "mainboard" is the same as before, nothing changed there...

so i think it could be some worn keyboard / buttons that caused all the SoD's... could also explain why some never had them, some later than others, etc...

again, since they've changed the keyb and all the other buttons - no SoD's so far.

possible? :confused:
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
nah ...i wouldn't dare if i were you :D remember that SYS and XIP are not obtained officially and sometimes a hybrid because they must search from other build if they have to. So the chef have spent much time there to get it working with SE OEM.

In the end ...it is not us who judge their work - flash at your own risk, an equitable position amongst cookers and happy flashers :D my two cents ..
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Typako:
I had my 1st SoD

Few days ago, 1 year after getting my X1 and 4 months after my 1st 6.5 ROM, I had my 1st SoD.

Conditions:

- ROM 21885 perosnalized WITHOUT manila

- Radio 1.14.... with matching rilphone.dll (from R3A)

- X1 on charger

- phone in standby mode (pressed the ON-OFF button)

- Nothing running in bgr except SPB MS

- Phone radio ON (not airplane mode)

- Data connection disabled by NoData utility.

- Alarm (SPB Time) had been set for 7:30

All the conditions were very usual ... except one thing ...

I FORGOT TO TURN OFF THE WI-FI

Next night I intentionally left it ON and guess what... SoD happened again. Alarm didn't go off and the phone was frozen in the morning.

After this, I strongly believe that the problem is related, somehow, either with wi-fi or with network activity in general, during stand-by.

It was maybe wrongly related with Manila because Manila causes some network activity to update info on the tabs (?)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xperian:
(Offtopic:)

I know the X1 was designed for WM6.1, but honestly: If I still had to use 6.1 I would have thrown away this phone a long time ago. WM 6.5 is the only thing that actually makes it usable/finger-friendly. You simply can't use the X1 with your fingers and stock ROM.

Now if someone knows of a finger-friendly shell which replaces:

- Contacts (main problem on 6.1)

- SMS

- Email (Pain in the ass on 6.1)

- Start Menu

- Default dialer (no slide to talk, which means random calls)

Until Android becomes available on the Xperia I don't see myself using anything else but WM6.5.

@Topic: I disabled Manila now (using default Titanium) and I'll keep you posted if I get SoDs...
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darthmelk:
@caliban2 - Of course I remember. I'm glad you got rid of the problems. I would try a Manila 2.5 ROM too, but I don't have the time and patience anymore to test SoD ROMs. I can't see how it could be related to keyboard or other buttons, but who knows... Maybe they re-flashed the phone too while on service, and you got a "clean" X1?

@azaberl - SoD are related only to WM6.5 from what I know. I tried a long time ago some itje 6.1 ROMs and they worked fine.

@xperian - SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 maybe? Or Manila 2.1 over WM6.1?

@deepthroat - The chefs have all my respect, but it's clear that some manage to make SoD free ROMs and others don't. It's hard for them to see what's wrong if they don't have the problem, I guess.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
of course they flashed my phone and made a master reset. but they did that as well in june when it got repaired the first time, the SoD started afterwards with 6.5.

yes, the keyboard-/button-thingy is just a wild guess. but: my keyboard started to deteriorate from july onwards (no reaction or 3 letters at once), cam-button as well. now they replaced the kb and all the other buttons. (apart from the mainboard and battery my phone is brandnew, actually ^^)

so, what if: most kb-buttons or e.g. the camera-button were sending "pushs" all the time when they actually weren't in use. (contacts malfunctioning) under certain circumstances or after a specific amount of time (night) this is flooding the memory and locks the phone up. (compare it to a pc starting to beep if you press a key long enough / too much keys at once)

a really wild guess, i know, but i see exactly the same wild guesses in here as back in summer, when the whole trouble started. none of them could explain it. :p

anybody with SoD got keyb-/button-problems?

anybody has a brandnew keyboard and still get's SoD?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wookario:
Ok, so there's an interesting thing.

I've been all the time using Valkyries firestorm 23518leo, i've been having sods always without any expetion, whlie charging the pho, and sometimes also, while using the phone without a charger.

I've flashed radio to 1.16 as advised, and ripholne.dll to 1.14 it helped a littlebit, thus my x1 got sod only while charging. I thought flashing the rom to valkyries 53517leo, but then instead flashing the rom, i did some testing.

First of all, I've disabled manila (I've been using a max manila all the time, but I've noticed a very strange thing - I've disabled standby whlie charging - as someone advised to do it - the phone instead of getting sod, scrambled my manilla (all of manilla elements were like interlaced, and cut). The same thing happened to me, without charging the phone. I've managed to disable HTC sense, to go back to titanium - it was ok. Enabling HTC sense, got the same result, the scrren was still scrambled. Only when I've resetted the phone, manila was ok.

So what I did, whas to permanently disable HTC sense, and to go back to the original wm 6.1 keylock (the one to touch the two buttons to unlock) instead of the new 6.5 keylock (the sliding one). If you ask me of a reason, to change the keylock, I'd say it was just a hunch :)

Anyway, I was waiting untill the next charging (which was a while ago) and te thest result are for me anyway strange.

I mean I've charged the phone full, with manila disabled, keylock changed to 6.1 standard, and with standby disabled while charging, and I'm SOD free.

Now it's time for test, if the reason for this is manila disabled, or 6.1 keylock enabled. For sure I know it's not the standby disabled, thus previously it hanged my phone this way anyway - but then manila was enabled).

Next time, I'll enable manila, staying with 6.1 keylock, see what it does.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tricky42:
I'm running gtrab's SEX1 R5 BB and get SoDs roughly once a day, usually overnight while charging (sleep disabled). However, the past 3 days I happened to have left the WiFi off and haven't gotten a single SoD during that time. Maybe it's coincidence, but just throwing it out there...
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
i suspect manila 2.5 is the cause;

- anyone knows any com3 or com5 (start menu at the bottom) custom rom that have manila 2.5 cooked in and doesnt have SoD?

- any electrician can come into logical explanation as to why usb-charging is okay but AC adapter charging is problem?

any comment is appreciated, thanks xda-ian
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Varming:
I've been trying a lot of different ROMs and with HTC Sense I always get SoD sooner or later. Now I just disable the HTC and run WM65 on the home page and didnt have one single SoD since.

I'm willing to bet quite a lot on HTC Sense crashing the phone.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darthmelk:
Well, I used for a few months Untamed with Sense 2.1 on 6.5 and Inever had a SoD. Before, I tried different other ROMs from other chefs (Sense 2.1 or 2.5 on 6.5) and I always had SoDs. Either some chefs do a better job than the others, or it has NOTHING to do with Sense.

I still didn't get an answer from the people still eporting SoDs! Stop being lazy and test it!

DO YOU STILL HAVE PROBLEMS USING UNTAMED 1.3 WITH 6.5 AND SENSE 2.1???

If you don't, then it's clear the other chefs do something wrong and MrRusch + WildChild managed to get rid of SoDs somehow.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
dont understand well what you mean by stop being lazy? I dont want to go on Sense 2.1, but if the Untamed had Sense 2.5, i would like to test it for sure :D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Howshall:
SoD Testing still going on...

Just wanted to let you know that my step by step SoD testing is still going on with Valkyrie x1_firestorm_v5.4.23517 LEO which while it has known (fixable) ringer and IE issues has overall proved to me and others an exceptionally stable base WM build - as long as you don't enable Manila 2.5

If you read through the 7 days of incremental testing I've done soo far you'll see that this SoD issue is definately related to when Manila 2.5 ('HTC Sense' today item) is enabled and then the phone is either allowed to be in standby for an extended period or put onto mains charge and hits 100% battery.

SoD condition can be sped up with Reminders or Alarms trying to trigger while the phone is in standby on mains charge.

The interesting bit of my test which I intend to test further since I did a second hard reset is that Manila survived 1 night without SoD when it was enabled but none of the other tabs had been setup (i.e. Weather/Location/Facebook/Twitter/Stocks/etc)

At the moment I've doing the non-Manila Titanium testing having hard reset with any otherwise fully configured the phone (Twin activesync connections, staggered alarms, reminders and 4 hourly IMAP email checking)

Once I've checked that 'fully loaded' configuration is stable then I'll re-enable but not configure Manila and see if that's stable when not configured, and then try to configure Manila features 1 by 1 until I hit an SoD.

Obviously this is a rather long road seeing as each test cycle needs to be at least 24hrs...so please don't anyone here hold your breath ;-)

I'll be posting updates on that testing post linked above as a full daily log of where I am.

To answer others on this thread:

From lots of reading SoD is only regularly happening for X1 (not sure of other models) users with the particular combination of WM6.5 and Manila 2.5 (with or without landscape)

There have been much less reports of SoDs on WM6.5 with Manila 2.1, but that's a harder combination to find from chefs nowadays and you miss out on things like Facebook integration and home tab shortcuts (although you do get fuller home page calendar)

WM6.1 and Manila 2.1 seem to have no problems SoD or stability wise

(But can you bear 6.1 after getting used to 6.5? If so that's the way for best guarenteed stability)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
EXACTLY ...i'm not looking for stable and speedy rom anyway, just another flash-addict ..;)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jezza0:
Yes, absolutely! If you are using Sense, or SPB Mobile Shell, it really makes little-to-no practical difference whether you are on 6.1 or 6.5, except that 6.1 is noticably snappier, does not exhibit the 3-5 second screen pauses when doing quick successive screen taps, and never SoD's. Since being back on 6.1 again I have confidence that I'll never miss an alarm, or a phone call, or anything like that. Even one SoD in a week is enough to ruin my confidence that my phone will do its primary function -- take calls!

Anyway... monologue over. Sorry if I came across as a 6.1 evangelist! Well, maybe I am :p
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darthmelk:
I have to disagree completely. It's not Sense 2.5-specific. Some moths ago I was testing itje's 6.5+TF2.0 or Sense2.1 ROMs and absolutely ALL of them had SoD. Of course, the same happened with his 6.5+Sense 2.5. But I had no problem whatsoever with itje's 6.1+Sense 2.1 ROM.

I would blame it on WM6.5, becuse lots of users here reported SoD on 6.5 non Manila/Sense ROMs too. Of course, it's just a thought, I really have no idea WTF is going on with these SoDs. :confused:
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
no need to be sorry mate, there are still lot of users stayed with 6.1 for the reason you stated above. Please wait until 6.5 is mature, or even overlapped with 6.6 or win7? meanwhile, i'd like to stay in troubled water :D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vidvandre:
If I haven't misunderstood completely what this issue is all about; I can, as I've wrote earlier in this thread, confirm that this isn't isolated to ROMs with Manila/Sense. With two different X1's, I've experienced the dreaded freeze after overnight charing. Using ROMs without Manila/Sense. So in short; confirmed...

FWIW; As reported earlier, after upgrading to the 1.16.xx radio, neither of the two X1's we have in the house have exhibited this issue. Before, both froze regularly, at the very least each morning. This still is the case.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
you have no sig., what rom please ...i'd like to test your experience with 1.16, cause i wasn't lucky enough with that one :(
[General Questions and Answers] averagegamer:
I've tried different things to get Google Maps on my HTC Touch Pro with TAEL Rom, but it doesn't work. Does anyone have a proper .cab file for me or other solution so that I can get the newest Google Maps on my phone?
[General Questions and Answers] denco7:
What doesn't work ? Download the cab HERE either to your phone or your PC. Where are you getting stuck ?
[General Questions and Answers] averagegamer:
Thanks for your reaction, but it already works.

The problem was that I had unpacked the Cabfile on my PC and then it didn't work ;) I already tried to do something with the unpacked files with 7-zip but the solution was much easier :)

I still do look for a fix or something so that my GPS works better, now it has problems getting my location, even after installing QuickGPS.
[General Questions and Answers] shamefulzero:
I know its not a huge update but i wanted to put it on to go with the flow. make sure i get every feature.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RFOX100:
any one knows from where i can d/l the lastest rom of windows mobile 6.5 naked

without noting ?

i want to install my own programs.

thanks

p.s

i already tryed some roms but every rom got hes own problems .

so please share some naked rom without noting
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Henry Hayes:
Same here.

Thanks in advance!

Henry
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
ROM Development is not for ROM requests, if you have a request ask a chef either in thread or even via PM...

On that note thread closed.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] tjeo:
Hello guy,

Which nice guy wants to help me to install on my XPERIA WM6.1 to 6.5 but very detailed.

Care roman ma ajuta sa trec de la 6.1 la 6.5.

Thx:confused:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] agent_47:
ummmm

reading the stickies or the million other threads with the same title might help :rolleyes::rolleyes:
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] tictac0566:
A standard answer to this question from my side is here.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] mcbyte_it:
Not much related to the main question but:

I am still sticking with 6.1 because i like the HTC Manilla start menu replacement over Windows default programs menu, and with all 6.5 ROM's there is always the Win6.5 HoneyComb start menu.

is there any way to re-enable HTC manilla programs on WinMo6.5?
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] tictac0566:
I am not really sure if I understand your question correctly...

Manila is the user i/f of HTC, not a part of WinMo.

For some older Manila versions, there exist cab files to install HTC apps on WinMo.

However, speed will be much faster if you flash a ROM with WinMo and Manila inside.

There are quite a few nice 6.5 ROMs with either Manila 2.1 or 2.5 - while you

might prefer 2.1 because this one usually has the program tab separate.

On the other hand, WinMo 6.1 ROMs still feel faster, imho, and the latest ones

do come with the latest Manila 2.1, too.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] mcbyte_it:
What i meant is the start menu (upper left windows icon) of the Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5, in the 6.1 Manilla can replace it with it's applications launcher, which is usually just a tab of manilla, while on WinMo 6.5 i found no roms that can replace it, WinMo6.5 will still have it's start menu programs launcher...
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] tictac0566:
Well, ok then.

WinMo 6.5 does not have any start menu which is comparable to 6.1 - it is replaced by the honeycomb screen.

If you do not like Manila, but search a program launcher like the tab in Manila, you might try other apps for WinMo, such as PointUI.
[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] dialiv:
eu te ajut :)