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[HD2 General] d3viou5:
Nova Chongli/

Nova Chongli? is that the one next to Taipei Main and the Mitsukoshi? If so, which floor?

There is a PDA king on Bade Road i think i may try there later.

Have you tried flashing with an official update. I hear either the WWE or the Eastern European WWE can be flashed straight onto a device without hardSPL.
[HD2 General] wpy:
Nova in zhongli City, Taoyuan. Its not carrier locked. Tried flashing with the WWE but no deal. Guess we'll have to wait for the hardSPL...
[HD2 General] d3viou5:
Ok.....Got one!!! PdaKing all the way! Liking everything so far, but the language thing is a bit of an issue. I have done the reg tweak to change the language in Sense, which is OK, but there are still a massive amount of menus in Chinese. Guess that's the price we pay. Roll on HardSPL.

I also tried flashing WWE Euro and WWE East Euro to no avail. Has anyone had any luck flashing any kind of rom onto a Chinese HD2? Are there any tips for making living with a chinese phone easier?

Apart from not buying a Chinese phone.......
[HD2 General] squall09:
Can't the HD2 in Taiwan have English interface as an option? I have an old motorola phone bought from Taiwan, I can change the language of interface, can't HD2 do the same??

I too am thinking to buy from Taiwan since I want to be able to read SMS, internet and file explorer (when I store Chinese music), but I want to operate under English...
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Old Motorola phones with the Symbian OS could change the UI language, but Windows Mobile cannot do that. There is a hack now with the HD2 that will change the language for the HTC Sense on the HD2, but does not change the language on Windows Mobile itself.

I did some checking, and licensing for Windows Mobile does not allow HTC to sell English phones in Taiwan, and that came from Microsoft Taiwan itself. However, for those who want an English HD2 and get it from Hong Kong or elsewhere, HTC headquarters here said they would try to repair it here if you take it to their service center in Taipei. They would only send it to the place of purchase if they could not repair it here. That is a bit of comfort, anyway.
[HD2 General] squall09:
Thanks for this... I was not aware of... this is a bum for me, now I don't know where to buy!!

I would like English interface mainly, all I really want Chinese is when I transfer my music from PC to MicroSD, the file name and the music player will recognise Chinese rather than symbols! SMS and internet can read Chinese would also be great! Any suggestions? thanks.
[HD2 General] sscywong:
Hong Kong English version is released today.

People are saying that the HK Eng can read Trad Chi and have Changjei Pinyin and Stroke input... Interface remains in Englihs... You may try your luck in Hong Kong... (p.s. MSRP HK$5,698 = appox NTD22,xxx)

Too bad I've pre-ordered Chinese to avoid installing CE-Star... :(

Supply's too limited and I'm not allowed to change my order
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Check this thread on changing languages

Hi guys, have you seen this thread on changing languages on the HD2? If you only want to flash an official ROM rather than a cooked ROM it should work going from a Chinese ROM to an English ROM.

If anyone tries it and is successful, please let us know the results. I do not yet have an HD2 to experiment with.
[HD2 General] squall09:
What is the Gold CC method?? I can't find the procedure to apply it... it's not the same as #9 in this right?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583638
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Nope, this is not the same method.

Read the whole thread that I linked to above again. cmonex is a grand and knowledgeable XDA Developers lady. As the thread says, you have to pm her through this website, and for a donation, you can receive and use the Gold CC method. You can find her through the members search.

Donating to cmonex is certainly acceptable, as without her efforts many of the HTC PDAs we love so much would not have been unlocked and not nearly as useful as they have been to us.

I do not understand the Gold CC method, as that is beyond me, but I know that 1). I trust the knowledge of cmonex, and 2.) I trust the posts that say the method worked. I wish I had an HD2 to experiment with now. I looked at one today when I paid my TWN phone bill. You lucky guys who already have one!

Again, to summarize what I understand, the above method will allow you to flash an official HTC ROM to your HD2, and thereby change the language, but, without the HardSPL we will not be able to flash cooked ROMS.

I guess your options are 1.) deal with the Chinese on your HTC HD2, 2.) go with cmonex to get English now, or 3.) wait until the HardSPL comes out.

Hope that clears something up instead of making the waters even more muddy for you. :)
[HD2 General] squall09:
thanks for the response. I did read the thread and come across the PM. I thought rather than PM and bother her, i might be able to get just a brief of the method (eg. a cab file, or tweak thru rego).

I've had a dig around and seems the HK version supports exactly what I want. I emailed HTC HK support and the lady said yes, though her initial response was the Hero model, with 2nd reply Touch HD2 (I hope she's not confused with the HD2 with Touch2!). I then found a retailer in HK which have the spec indicating:

Menu Language: English/Traditional Chinese

Text Input: English (Standard, T9, Handwriting); Chinese Traditional (Stroke/PinYin/BoPoMoFo)

I guess I am assuming with menu and input capable of Chinese, it 'implies' that the file explorer, sms, internet can all display Chinese.

I am hoping someone can confirm this though...
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
I am guessing that what the Hong Kong dealers are offering you is an HTC HD2 with an English UI, but with an additional program such as CE-Star, that will give you the ability to read and write in Chinese, and yes, it would show Chinese in explorer, sms, and the Internet. I would check with the Hong Kong dealers to see which program they are actually using. The thing to remember here is that Microsoft does not produce a version of Windows Mobile in English that natively supports English and a second langauge, such as Chinese.

If it is CE-Star or another language program they are using it might be wise to search on the forum here, as I recall the CE-Star can cause strange problems. I used it about a year ago, and with my old phone it took up a huge amount of space and really slowed down the system.

I see that the gold star method of flashing into another language now has a tutorial, and is presently free, so maybe some of the others on the thread might want to try it.
[HD2 General] biou:
What is official language in Taiwan? Japanese or English?
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
The "official" language used in Taiwan is Mandarin Chinese, with traditional characters used rather than the simplified characters that are used in China. Thus, PDA phone manufacturers in Taiwan are licensed to sell phones here with the traditional Chinese UI, not an English UI.
[HD2 General] d3viou5:
Success

If anyone is interested, i have managed to flash a Taiwanese model, chinese language HD2 to Asia WWE 1.48.xxx exactly as described in this guide.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=591314
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Congratulations! You must be one happy man now. What is your experience so far with the PDA now that it is in English? I looked at one yesterday at Taiwan Mobile, but cannot yet justify the expense. Yet, lust is close to my feelings after seeing the phone.
[HD2 General] d3viou5:
Very happy its not bricked. I hate the flashing process. Especially on a brand new 500 pound device. My heart rate was rather high to say the least.

What can i say. I have owned windows mobile devices for years. About 6 months ago i bought an iphone, but i hate apple and i hate itunes. That "Your phone is not synced with this version of itunes, do you want to delete everything even if you haven't backed it up" crap, really does my head in. But as a user experience it far surpasses any windows mobile device.

However, i am used to windows mobile and used to its flakey, slightly unstable and endless tinkering required to get it to work, so if you can get past that, then the huge screen is just great for web browsing, and it is by far the fastest Winmo device i have ever used. If MS get their act together, or HSPL comes out and the chefs here start releasing some wicked fast roms, this thing will be a killer, but sense aside its nowhere near as polished an experience as the Iphone.

Then as a WM user we come to expect that i would say!!
[HD2 General] squall09:
That's what I am worried as well, that it's a "tweaked" unit in HK, and not big fan of tweaking and causing problem with the phone, hence really wish to buy one which can give me the English UI + Chinese Reading.

However, I then discovered there is on the official htc support site of an English (Asia) user manual. If you look in Chapter 5 (pg 116-117), you will find the input/keyboard section, it has the sense keyboard with Chinese input. This to me means the English (Asia) model - HK, SE Asia etc, have natively Chinese input capability with English UI.

The one thing in which I am not 100% sure is whether the it's reasonable to assume if it can input Chinese, it can also read/display Chinese. I would love to be able to go to shops and check, but I don't live there.
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
In this case, if I were you. I would fire off an email or call to HTC's headquarters in Taoyuan, point out what you have read in the manual, and ask them directly for an answer.

I would be interested in the answer that they give you, as I have never heard of a WinMo phone that natively supports two langauges, and if they do, I wonder how companies that produce CE-Star and Monster Chinese can still sell those products, as there would be no need for them.

Of course Hong Kong would still need a solution with Chinese and English, as those who are able to buy the phone would also be the ones who would most likely be bilingual.

On my modded Himalaya phone, I can read Chinese on it, but not write, as I installed Chinese fonts.With CE-Star I could write Chinese, and it did have a Chinese keyboard, but the program caused me too many other problems.

At any rate, if you research you can surely get the information you want before you decide to buy. One of the other guys on this thread successfully flashed his HD2 to the Asian English version. You might ask him about Chinese support on that ROM.
[HD2 General] squall09:
Why call TaoYuan?? I thought English (Asia) is not the same as Taiwan version?? I've asked my friend in HK to ask shops for me, wrote email to HTC HK Support, their reply was (note the reply said Touch HD2, the bit makes me worry given the lady initially replied with Hero):

"Thank you for your reply. Please be noted that the Hong Kong English version of HTC Touch HD2 would have the English interface and the capacity of displaying Chinese Characters. It also has the build-in Chinese input method like Pinyin, Zhuyin, Cangjie and Stoke, thank you again for using our service."

Well, for the US/Australia people, importing these model is still not perfect as it does not support the 850Mhz bandwidth of 3G, so they may rather go the flash ROM method (I personally don't).

Do you know who is the person flashed the Asian English ROM?
[HD2 General] wpy:
just flashed the taiwan hd2 with the english 1.48 ASia WWE rom found on the rom sectoin using the gold card method. And yes the chinese chars. can be displayed and you can also input chinese using zhuyin and pinyin. Hope this helps...
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Check post 38 of this thread to see details about the guy who flashed his phone to the English Asian version.

Also, the above post now confirms that the English Asian HTC ROM does support Chinese input.

The reason I suggested you contact the HTC headquarters in Taoyuan is that it is the worldwide headquarters, and since, as you pointed out, in an HTC manual for Hong Kong it shows Chinese input support, they are the ones who will give you a definitive answer, straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak. If anyone can tell you what is the source of Chinese support in an English UI it is these people. Where do you think the research and development of HTC phones is carried out?

Perhaps I am wrong, but I thought you are in Taiwan.

Please be aware that when I refer to native support I mean what comes straight from Windows Mobile. In the HTC HD2 manual it of course shows HTC Sense, and you must be aware that HTC Sense is not native to Windows Mobile 6.5, so it does not follow that Chinese support in an English UI is native to Windows Mobile just because it is in the manual. I believe if you do a bit of research you will find that English Windows Mobile does not natively support English and Chinese together, although with a Chinese Windows Mobile there is support for reading and writing English.

The fact that recent HTC phones are not worldwide 3G is well known, and a matter of some frustration for many fans of HTC PDA phones.
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Thanks for that information. It is good to know. Do you know where the code for Chinese input is from? Do you think it was developed by HTC, or uses something like CE-Star or Monster Chinese code, or ported from the Chinese version of Windows Mobile?
[HD2 General] wpy:
its the same keyboard as the taiwan rom where you can switch from chinese or english keyboard. i thinks its from htc.

I was really glad that the rom is able to show chinese characters. If i had to use ce star then that would be a big problem since the ce star virtual keyboard is so small and would be imposible to use w/out a stylus or using the capacitve sceen.
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Thanks once again for your answer. It is just what I was looking for, and when I can budget for the phone, I know now just what is the right course of action!
[HD2 General] wpy:
sorry but i am mistaken. after further exploration it seems there is no zhuyin only pinyin, stroke and handwritting recognition. The downer is the pinyin seems to be showing simplified with no way to change to traditional. the handwriting has on option to show trad or simplified but not for the pinyin method... bummer...
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
Ya, a bit of a bummer, indeed. Does it at least show traditional Chinese fonts in email and SMS?
[HD2 General] wpy:
Yes at least it shows traditional Chinese in sms and email.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IndooMonkey:
Hey guys,

I've recently updated to Cyanogens latest mod, and I was wondering something.

Now that I've got Apps2SD working thanks to Cyanogen, I'm experiencing a crapload of apps appearing in my menu..

Is there a way to make folders/maps in the pullup menu where i can store my apps that are clogging up my menu?

Regards,

IndooMonkey
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kusotare:
yes. install advanced launcher.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jasonkwh:
such as title,

someone who had the key or rom, please share to develop the customize rom~
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] samhain937:
There is an active thread regarding this.

Go to:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=582543
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jamesyb0i:
Ht96mkf00616
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jasonkwh:
thx very much
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jamesyb0i:
It's really fast and sooo stable :D faster than casense UI
[Imagio General] wc3:
Does anyone know if there is a setting for Opera 9.5 to force web pages to load or browse as a desktop display? Internet Explorer has a setting that allows you to browse as either a desktop or mobile device.

On Opera, even with "Display - Mobile view" unchecked, some sites, notably CNN and FOX news, automatically redirect to their mobile website. Is there another setting I'm missing or is my Opera not functioning correctly.?

***Figured it out: A speed tweaking cab I installed had a default string in the Custom User Agent that allowed these sites to detect it as a mobile device and redirect. Could not change the string (would automatically default) so I'll probably have to remove the cab.
[Imagio General] eric12341:
I need to kno if there's a way too. this has been annoying la mierda out of me
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] zavalem:
I can not do a hard spl to this phone, I try 115, 116, 122 but they don't work also I can not upgrade the OS, anyone out there has any look with a phone like this.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] idada10:
neon hard spl

use neon hard spl
[Hero CDMA General] Fadakar:
My first android phone, finally rooted, installed MoDaCo's rom...now what?:confused:
[Hero CDMA General] magicalan:
get the clear theme :D lol

am trying to put it on mine its not working tho :(
[Hero CDMA General] thecodemonk:
Enjoy your phone? play around with it, check out themes...use it with a laptop to get internet on the bus...call/text someone? :P
[Hero CDMA General] chuckhriczko:
You also need to wait. Before you know it we are going to have roms flowing out our ears. I am working as hard as I can to learn how to make kickass roms so hopefully I can release something good soon :)
[Hero CDMA General] zedwards:
Actually, after doing all the above, I was kinda looking for other things to do :o I am loving the tethering though. Thought there would be a place for apps that are not in the market.
[Hero CDMA General] ix3u:
im having the same problem. i dont know what to do with my phone while waiting for everyne makes awesome custom roms. im just waiting to figure out how to get it fully optimized with everything thats already ready for it
[Hero CDMA General] thecodemonk:
Get a development environment setup and write some apps! Download the GSM Kernel and learn how to compile and tune it (use Teknologic's changelog as a guide perhaps) and prepare for the eventual release of the CDMA Kernel (or even the 2.0 Kernel...what? I can dream!)! It's fun to prepare for such things and test! :)
[Hero CDMA General] jjjjayd13:
Thanks Much!

Chuckhriczko, please keep up your 'good' work!

I used your instructions for rooting my hero, a little confusing but helped me to better understand linux procedures.

jjjjayd13, :cool::cool::cool:
[Hero CDMA General] david279:
Lets try to get Google maps with nav on the hero. They got it working in the Dream forum with some directions. Let me get my backup ready......
[Hero CDMA General] pitmanr2003:
Where can i find more themes? I did the clear one and its ok, but not much to it. Also what is so special about modaco rom other than u can save apps to sd
[Hero CDMA General] dom2114:
go try out droid explorer and desktop sms...you can get desktop sms stand alone, or it comes as part of droid explorer...both took about 5 seconds to get working and work perfectly.

This is the thread I started about it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583157
[Hero CDMA General] slayter202:
i have also rooted my phone and added the cyanogen mod 6 to it and i dont have the market anymore and i cannot flash my clockwork mod also i do not know how to add any roms can anyone please help (htc evo 2.2)
[Hero CDMA General] ACSP:
if you don't have the market, you probably forgot to/need to re-flash the google apps zip.

aside from that...you should be hanging out here -> Evo Forum :D

Start by looking at the [noob guide] and these FAQs.

Any other problems/questions search around in the Evo Q&A or General sub-topics and you should find what you need ;)
[Hero CDMA General] augoza:
What now? you should ..idk same with me. Maybe just hope for android to come out with a youtube app that works. (it can't be easy to make one tho)
[Hero CDMA General] Houndog101:
I have the BlueAnt S4 and it cannot voice dial, says it needs Andriod 2.2 . Looks like the Hero will not get that from Sprint/Google, so will a rooted phone with 2.2 be able to make blutooth voice dial ? Thanks, Ted O.:confused:
[Hero CDMA General] noskoviak:
Yeah a rooted 2.2 should work just fine with ur headset. I don't see why your headset isn't working fine now to be honest.

sent from my hero aosp2.2 cause aospcm7 2.3 was not as fast or stable for me.
[Hero CDMA General] Houndog101:
BlueAnt states that, for the S4, andriod 2.2 is required to do voice dialing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] grant9908:
I've read about it everywhere but can't find an explanation of what it is or what is does. It's like everyone knows what it is so there's no need to explain it anymore lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MCbrian:
Have you done a search yet? There are a couple of sticky threads on hardspl and rom flashing at the top of the Rhodium Rom Development sub-forum. They tell you all you

need

to know.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rvt1000:
Grant: read the sticky's and wiki at the ROM forum.....

Short answer, hard spl changes the bootloader on the phone thus "unlocking" it for other ROMs. Without hard spl, you can't flash other ROMs. Read the stickys and good luck.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] grant9908:
I have a TP2 and I have no clue what "flashing ROMs" means. what would be the benefit of doing this? If it's cool and helpful I'm all aboard, I just don;t know what it's talking about. Are we talking about Game ROMs, or apps etc. etc. etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] deardav1:
ROMS, etc.

Grant,

This site is full of very technical minds, who disassemble code to build updated operating systems and tweaks for their devices. It takes a while to sort through all the acronyms that are used. I've been reading on this site for several years, and I'm still lost most of the time!

Do a lot of reading before you try ANY of this stuff; or your new, very expensive pocket pc phone (or whatever you call yours?) becomes a very expensive paper-weight!

This is a great resource site, but you have to become fluent in the language before you can converse with these people. Good luck, and happy learning!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rvt1000:
Grant, start here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550540

Read through that about 3 times and it'll finally start making some sense.

Overall, many people are quite happy with the ROM (operating system) and programs that come with the phone and thus leave it the way it is. Others feel that it is quite to slow and bulky (uses too much memory with crapware that you don't ever use) and thus want to put a nicer looking, faster, smoother ROM on the phone. Also, this allows us to keep up to date with the newest ROMs as they are realeased.

Downsides: you've got to learn about flashing, you're ROM may be buggy since it's newer or it may be more stable if it's just a stock rom with crapware removed. Either way, to do any of this, you must first hard spl to allow the phone to take other ROMs. If you don't hard spl first, you phone will be mad at you and not wake up! Be warned that if you do this, you void your warranty (albeit there are ways to go back explained on the hard spl page) and you may become very very addicted and make posts on XDA froums on a holiday at 7 am in bed with your wife giving you dirty looks! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] grant9908:
I've read everything 7 or more times lol and it did start to make sense =D after about 7 hours or reading last night I finally figured everything out, I think mike would be the best ROM to go with but I'm going to leave mine stock for now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] martian07:
Welcome aboard Grant. I think the sentiment is pretty much same with most (except our all know elite who bring us most of these ...) of us. This site is very intimidating in the begining, but quite addictive later on. I still do not post regularly but takes some time to read almost everyday. But I can tell you one thing, whatever it takes, once you have flashed a custom ROM from these great developers here you will never go back to stock. It changes everything, stability, speed, functionality customization etc. and the most common complain, signal stregth, when you start playing with different ROM and RADIO combinations. Its fun.