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[Hero CDMA General] jonnythan:
No, because it's using the phone's hardware. I'm not taking the card out of the phone - I'm plugging the phone into the computer.

I ran some benchmark program called ATTO or something last night, and it was consistently giving me 5 MB/s with the Class 6 card and 2.5-3 MB/s with the Class 2.
[Hero CDMA General] tyrnight:
That makes sense.. but HTC still refuses to say that it will take advantage of it.. but an "in Phone" app to seal the deal would be great.
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
right, it's still in the phone, but the phone isn't reading or writing the card, your computer's OS is, while the card is mounted... acting like a usb flash drive... someone correct me if i am wrong...

was the ATTO prog on your pc/mac or on your phone?

thanks
[Hero CDMA General] jonnythan:
The contention is that the card-reading hardware in the phone is incapable of read/write speeds greater than "class 2" speeds. The OS has no card writing speed limitations built-in.
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
right...

still not sure that mounting the card will show the speeds the phones hardware can read/write it...

what does anyone else think?
[Hero CDMA General] flammenwurfer:
The way I see it, it is still using the hardware in the phone to read/write the card itself. The data is just being transfered over usb. USB 2.0 is capable of transfer speeds up to 60 MB/s so that is not a speed limiting factor. Therefore the card reader (the phone is this case) and the card itself would be the limiting factors. A class 6 card is supposed to be capable of transferring at 6 MB/s. So comparing the same card's read/write speeds in the phone and then in a different card reader should give you an idea of whether the card or the reader is limiting the speeds at all.
[Hero CDMA General] jonnythan:
For everyone's enjoyment.
[Hero CDMA General] flammenwurfer:
Interesting. So according to your graph the phone hardware reduces the speed slightly but the card itself is the main factor.

What brand card did you use? And what software did you use for measuring?
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
thanks for the graph, that is pretty definitive.
[Hero CDMA General] jonnythan:
For whatever reason the card reader I was using is a tiny bit faster than the phone. I used the ATTO benchmark utility testing a 256 MB transfer. Both cards were Sandisk - one was the 2 GB card that came with the phone and the other was an 8 GB Class 6.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
I know this thread has turned into questions on Classes of the cards instead of the sizes of the cards, but the above qoute sounds to me like Tierez found a 32 gig card some where...WHERE AT??? I WANT ONE!!! I DON'T CARE WHAT IT COSTS!!:D
[Hero CDMA General] pulser_g2:
I can confirm that the Hero is able (for me at least) to use cards at speeds higher than that rated for class 2.

I have found, through experience, that memory card class ratings are an 'absolute minimum under normal circumstances', ie. you will achieve 2Mbps writes to a class 2 card, or above.

If a card gives a X rating (a 'times' rating like 66X), you can convert that to a speed by multiplying by 150KB/s (KiloBytes), since 1X = 150KB/s.

I have just ordered a 16GB class 6 normal SD card rated at 133X writes for my camera. Class 6 = 6Mbps write speed, 133X ~=20Mbps write speed for this card.

So classes don't mean everything. Use benchmarks where possible, as opposed to manufacturer claims.
[Hero CDMA General] skanndelus:
i still don't think they are available yet, unfortunately... man, when they come out though we'll have iphone and ipod killers ;)
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
This thing already kills the Iphone lol. Removable battery, Remvable memory, Spell Check, MMS...I think the only thing that is "lacking" is our app store is smaller, but all the popular apps just about have been ported.

Can't wait to get a 32 Gig card though, the phone will only be THAT MUCH BETTER! If we could get a good copy of the kernel, I don't see why we couldn't bump it up to a 64 gig limit. I don't think hardware is the limitation...i maybe but it would be hard to belive. then again I don't understand the architecture.

I am not sure what my phone could do more that I want HAHA

MY SPELLING IS HORRIBLE
[Hero CDMA General] jonnythan:
It doesn't kill the iPhone in speed or media-playing ability. The iPod portion of the iPhone absolutely shames all media apps on the Hero, and the 3GS is blisteringly fast in comparison.
[Hero CDMA General] Kcarpenter:
Not to highjack the thread, but all things I will trade to not have ATT and thank god, not have an Iphone and be "one of those" people lol.

Not to mention, the intent of the OS makes worlds of differences to me. Hopefully one day we will have a really good media app. one day.
[Hero CDMA General] jonnythan:
I don't want an iPhone either, but I don't have any fanboy feelings one way or the other about it. I can be objective and observe that my phone does many things the iPhone can't while also observing that the iPhone is significantly faster and smoother, has dramatically better gaming options, and simply blows away the Hero as a PMP.
[Hero CDMA General] cmccracken:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the micro-SDHC standard caps out at 32GB. The next size up will be SDXC (including standard and micro- form factor), and it is technologically a bit of a departure and is not likely to work in devices built only for SD and SDHC standards (it uses exFAT filesystem instead of FAT32). It supports capacities up to 2TB, as well a a much faster bus speed (up to 300 MB/s). More info

I'm curious where some have found the 32GB micro-SDHC cards. I have not been able to find them for sale and shipping yet, at any price.
[G1 Apps and Games] pentace:
Fell free to do as u wish with this info for they are stealing and distributing everyones apps for free, I will not include the domain name for obvious reasons

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[G1 Apps and Games] Burlyskink:
Its also kind of sad that the admin who runs that, is a member of xda
[G1 Apps and Games] alritewhadeva:
Is it DA :confused:
[G1 Apps and Games] 4hed517:
http://www.executivecentre.com/service-office-locations/hong-kong-nexxus.html

real helpful.
[G1 Apps and Games] Burlyskink:
All of my evidence points to this Guy(Note: This is a serious accusation, and I am pretty positive it is him, however, on the slim slim chance that it is not don't go flame him)

http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=1334659

I also, have some dirt on members here that are members over there
[G1 Apps and Games] alritewhadeva:
lolz okay i see.
[G1 Apps and Games] Burlyskink:
Seriously, if an admin at xda would like to ban him I could give you all of the info you want.

Also, do you think an admin should see this or should I pm one?
[G1 Apps and Games] Lamar720:
Sharing is caring! :)
[G1 Apps and Games] Sistum Id:
Wow, good job...

Correct me if I'm wrong but...

To get "dirt" on them would you require to view the threads of apps posted over there and compare names from each website or do a Google search. Either you have no life and alot of free time or are just as dirty as them.

I could goto this website and create an account and use your name (unless its already taken) and spread your name all over that website. Your evidence is flawed.
[G1 Apps and Games] Burlyskink:
Hehe, except for the fact that I have friends on that site... Secondly you very well could do that, but I am sorry I have more evidence than just names thank you very much.
[G1 Apps and Games] brian_v3ntura:
he cant be banned anyways from xda . he is doing nothing wrong on xda...

i am a member on THAT site,but i always forget to even go on it
[G1 Apps and Games] SobeGreenTea972:
wth is this?

What this? I click the link to an office leasing spot. But I don't get what's being distributed?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] WiZaxx:
The bootscreen in our devices is made of 3 pieces:

1st is an image (usually the HTC logo)

2nd is the welcomehead.192

3rd is an image/animation (usually the carrier animated logo)

I know it is possible to change the last two, but what about the fist one?

Has anyone been able to extract it?

If so can you share?

I would like to use it as a starting point of my animation so the transition is not too abrupt.

Thank y'all
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Do you have a GSM or CDMA Touch Pro 2?

edit: Well, I suppose it doesn't matter. I've just extracted the generic TP2 1st boot and packaged it up. This won't require a hard reset either, so no worries.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] WiZaxx:
Thanks TaurusBulba.

CDMA. that's my TP2.

And now brace yourself for a stupid one...

I'm actually after the image itself, so I can add to my animated GIF.

Any chance of that? or maybe the way to get it from the pack you created?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
No worries. Ask and ye shall... well, here you go. :)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] WiZaxx:
THANK YOU

Thank you so much.

Now I want to leave the office and go working on this....

I will share ofcourse!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VeraMedix:
Hi guys, need your help.

Short version:

i own the XDA Stellar, running vanilla WM6.0. tried to install Windows Live but had to soft reset before it ended. now stuck at the green boot screen.

what besides hard reseting can i do? i don't mind breaking the device if i have to, but i want my data back. particularly my text messages. everything else that i need is backed up.

while am on the green boot screen, if i receive an sms, the phone actually rings. but thats basically all it does. when i connect the USB to my computer, nothing pops up.

anyway i can get access to the files directory?

what i've tried:

- soft reseting a number of times

- remove SD card

- removing sim card

- removing Battery for a couple of minutes before putting it back in

- connecting USB cable. "nothing pops-up on computer"

- SMSing it. "it rings"

- pressing all buttons on surface of device. :p

no success

thanks for any help

Long version:

i own the XDA Stellar, running vanilla 6.0. today i downloaded Windows Live for windows mobile to update the one i already had on my device. while it was installing before it reached the end, i got a pop-up telling me that i was running out of space. and it just stayed like that, progress bar wouldn't move. so i went to the device deleted a couple of pictures and tried to cut/paste the voice notes from device to storage card. it refused to allow it. so i decided to soft reset.

when i did soft reset, it got to the green boot screen and is stuck there.

after along wait, i get a white screen telling me the device can't boot because i might have "turned off the device incorrectly" or installed an insecure software and that my only option is to hard reset and lose everything.

while am on the green boot screen, if i receive an sms, the phone actually rings. but thats basically all it does. when i connect the USB to my computer, nothing pops up.

anyway i can get access to the files directory?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stylez:
And no mention of a Hard-Reset? ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VeraMedix:
are you saying that there is absolutely no way to read the memory on the phone beside doing it when the WinMobile OS is running right?

that sounds like a completely stupid design. its like having windows without a start disk that gives you access to a command prompt.

having to lose all your data over some OS data corruption is ridiculous

i would really appreciate it if anyone knows a way, even an expensive one.

i just had text messages from someone dear to me that passed away that i'd rather not lose.

thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Flying Kiwi:
Some other things to try

Yes you can check whether the sms messages are stored on the sim card (by putting it in another phone/using a sim card reader). On my TyTN II, the SMS Messages are stored there and it's only emails that use phone or memory card memory. You could also try removing the Sim before booting (one thing not on your 'tried' list but if all this fails, the only other thing I can think of short of a hard reset, is contacting Microsoft about their Windows Live software. There's a website for support of these products and Microsoft staff will actually get back to you (I had need to contact them over a bug in the email portion of their software some time ago). Best wishes :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VeraMedix:
seeing as i have over 2000+ messages in there, i don't think the sim card could actually help me in this case.

but thanks anyway

i still can't believe they made a phone with a memory that could only be accessed through the OS:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Flying Kiwi:
Including any additional way of accessing it uses up more storage memory for the relevant program and on a mobile device (unlike a desktop PC), that's very valuable space. Maybe some of your sms messages (the most important ones) may be on the sim - you have little to loose by checking. What about trying to boot it without the sim card in or contacting Microsoft as I mentioned? Not all your options have run out yet but you seem to write as if they are....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VeraMedix:
@Flying Kiwi

thanks for replying. i actually did try to boot it without the sim card after you suggested it. it didn't work.

and with regards to contacting Microsoft, i'll give that a go but i doubt they'll be able to help if people here can't. as we all know, XDA Developers kick ass.

with regards to checking the sim for the messages, i don't have a spare phone to try it on just now, and if i remember correctly, sim cards don't usually hold more then 15 text, though i might be wrong.

the thing is, the fact that my phone still rings when it receives a messages, kinda makes me think the OS is partially loading. i was hoping someone could suggest a way for me to force enough of it on to reach my files..

am starting to lose hope.. *sigh*

am really thankful to the people who have replied so far.

P.S. oh yeah, Flying Kiwi, could you give me a link to the WM6 support page that where people actually reply to you since i can't find any support besides that to MSDN account holders, either that or paying £200 for one single phone call that last upto 8 hours at which point it could just end up with them just telling me to hard reset. thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VeraMedix:
can anyone help me out here? anyone with a link or an email address i can get support from Microsoft for WM6?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Themse:
i have a similar problem, is there anyway to get data from phone if the OS is corrupt and the system is stuck at the green bootup screen?

please say yes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mr. Clown:
If you activesync before this happened yes you can get some info.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] dom2114:
Came across this application that allows lots of drag-and-drop style management for your phone within windows. Seems to work perfectly and is simple to use.

http://de.codeplex.com/

No more messing around with linux commands etc.

Update: Just got Desktop SMS to work! Have to install the java 'server' on the phone (see http://code.google.com/p/desktopsms ) but its working perfectly! Text sent and received.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Aridon:
Anyone ever use this before or willing to check it out?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] dom2114:
I've already done it...think its pretty awesome (I'm not the developer FYI...just a keen user)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] frazmanw:
Hmmmm pretty cool
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] dom2114:
desktop sms is by far the most useful part of this thing for me...

also makes backing up all your apps a bit easier
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] elguapo76:
Sweet!!! Thanks! Now we just need a way to do USB tethering :)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] dom2114:
Desktop SMS issues

OK, so it doesn't work perfectly....

DesktopSMS sends txts using the stock messaging app...so as soon as u send one, the phone suffers from the 100% awake time/battery drain problem

Secondly, it doesnt seem to alert you in the PC client when you receive a text.

Would love for someone smarter than me to fix this as I have been dying to get this sorta application working
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] ajones7279:
Only for Windows? Booooooooo lol

This is pretty cool though. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=574677

If DroidExplorer worked for Mac I'd use it.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] dom2114:
big apologies...desktop sms doesn't seem to suffer from the 100% awake issue when a text is sent...I didnt realize that the phone doesn't sleep when plugged in.

It seems to work pretty well, but the pc client does not display any new texts when they are received...

Still makes it much easier to send texts tho.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Merckle:
I am running Windows 7 x64 and cant get it to install. Any thoughts?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] johnsongrantr:
NIIIIICE.... just breifly going over it.... looks cool as hell...

write up a simple how-to

definately sticky worthy

UPDATE:

so it works exactly as advertised! EXTREMELY RECCOMENDED!!!!

-Send/Receive sms in app.... insanely useful!

-file browser.... windows explorer+android file system

-apk installer.... quick and easy apk install (like htc sync without the popups)

-update installer.... got a theme you wanna try out? EASY AS HELL

-screencast.... control your phone from your computer!!

-screenshots..... yea it does that too

this is probally the single coolest desktop app I've EVER seen for a phone
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] BrianDigital:
looks great, the 64bit version is under their download tab
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] redram38:
Cannot get the desktopsms to work. I put and installed the apk on the phone and click the MainGui.Jar file on the computer but it will not connect.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] johnsongrantr:
did su ask for root permissions for the smsserver apk?

did you install droid explorer?

did droid explorer download the sdk tools it needed?

and finally did you activate the desktop sms plugin via droid explorer?

check these and there is no reason it shouldn't work.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] redram38:
I opened Droidexplorer and saw the plugin area, opened desktop sms and went to pref and pointed it toward the adb.exe that the program installed. I went to the phone and clicked on desktopsms and it said launch. I did get a force closed a time or two doing this step. I then clicked connect and it connected and found my contacts. I have to go to the contacts and change the way the mobile number displayed. Mine all looked like this (901) 123-4567 and it would send me back a error message saying to use 10 numbers. Once I fixed this it worked. One odd thing is when I changed all my contact info it would display both contacts in the program, instead of just the edited one, and when I sent my son a message using the new number the text I entered would not show up, however when I clicked on his other number there it was.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Kevii:
this program always crashes when i try to open it :(
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] johnsongrantr:
well as long as it's working don't worry about my questions I asked.

the fix for that now is to edit all your contacts on your phone or on google contacts to have them all be the same with the 10 digit contact.

had a similar problem on my pre... double or even tripple contacts from the pre, google, and facebook. Once I mirrored them all in google contacts and wiped the phone (not needed for android phones just sync with google) they all went to 1 contact per person.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] katmandu421:
FYI you can also send/receive texts from your pc via you google account, which i assume most of us have ;) You may need to enable it in your gmail settings/labs.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Kevii:
Wow am I the only one who cannot even get this program to work?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] bray424:
I've got the program loading just fine and can use it to take screenshots and send reboot commands, but under the explorer window all I'm getting is a single empty unnamed window. Any suggestions?
[General Topics] roaddogg:
i have got 2 facebook accounts and want to sync photos in contacts (wm 6.5.1 cooked rom) from both, is this possible????????????

if i cant have them both sync'ed then how do i log out of the one im in at the min and log into my other.

iv got a touch hd (blackstone)

i appologise if this is not the correct place to post as this is my first but cant find anything in the wiki or search about changing accounts

iv tried changing password on my laptop then sync on my phone thinking it would ask me to re enter my log in details but no such luck..

p.s much respect to the clever pple at xda u should all get more appreciation for what you do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Hero CDMA General] ryanc2:
Currently have the droid and not overly impressed. To be hones, aside from Google Nav, I'm already pretty bored with it. Seems like most people that opted for the Eris love it, whereas most Droid owners are mostly complaining.

Still in my 30 days with Verizon and am considering swapping out for the Eris, but not sure if it would be a step backward from a hardware perspective. I love the fact that it is HTC based and therefore the options of custom ROM's, etc. when made available is great. However, I'm somewhat skeptical about the seemingly dated hardware it is running on.

Any Eris owners that have some experience using both that can post why they chose the Eris? Is Sense UI that big of a deal?

Thanks in advance...
[Hero CDMA General] binny1007:
In my opinion the eris is a great phone so far. My buddy who is a iPhone user played with it today and he was very impressed by it. I do think the sence UI makes a world of difference. I have not used the moto droid yet, but if you not happy than I would think about switching. Goodluck
[Hero CDMA General] ddowell13815:
I love my eris, I only have 1 complant about it. The damn preinstalled apps that htc puts on there. I really feel that the inability to uninstall those apps go against the spirit of android and its open source roots
[Hero CDMA General] thezero4:
I would say that sense and all the other HTC improvements such as multitouch web browser are what the eris have going for it. The droid's processor would really be the only thing that I would like in my hero or your eris. The keyboard on that phone was horrible. I tried it out for a day and couldn't get to liking that hardware keyboard at all and software is worse than HTC. So it's interface or processor.