yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Yes the calling quality is good.

Guys also take a look at this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=582059
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Sweet, thanks xmoo! Can't wait any longer for my device! Hurry up Thursday!
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
Just one quick question...does the hd2 have that 3seconds lag when reciveing an incoming call? Used to happen on TP and TP2.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
My X1 used to do that, with Manila 2.1 and before we got the official Manila 2.5 packages.

Now using a ROM based on the official HD2 packages (Manila and WM 6.5) and it doesn't lag anywhere near as much on my X1 as it used to. I'm assuming it doesn't on the HD2, given the processor, and how it performs on my X1.
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
I don.t think it.s manilla, used to happen on any stock rom i used on my TP and TP2, but with custom roms everything was fine (so i belive it.s more of a tweak), anyway i agree with you, with 1gzh shouldn.t lag at all.

Xmoo, could you give it a try when you have the time ?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Yes, but you can change it in the reg.
[HD2 General] yrreP:
Most of the devices I get are 'security unlocked', thereby allowing me flash what I want on them.

:)

The HD2 will be software locked, as with all 'branded' devices, to the software of the Network who provided the device.
[HD2 General] Nara-e-Mastana:
how? Please share?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Instad HDTools, And there you can disable it.

Cheers.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
I'm still hoping for an answer to a number of questions that I asked back in posts #33 and #38 in this thread. Somebody did, I think, try loading some sort of file in TCPMP and couldn't, but there was no mention of what sort of file it was, and no one has tried TCPMP with anything else. I'd still like to know:

- Can you run TCPMP on the Leo? If so, which version? (There are links to two different possibilities in post #33).

- If you can, which settings work and which ones don't? (For example, can you use DirectDraw overlays, or only DirectDraw blitting, or neither? Does using "device stretching when blitting" help? How much of a performance hit do you get from using dithering, or 100% smooth zoom, or any of the other quality-enhancing features in TCPMP?).

- Could you please confirm that HTCAlbum can play an avi encoded with xvid? And what about divx?

- Can you run myplayer? (Link in my previous post). Does streaming work okay in the Streaming Media Player?

- If you download one of the 480x270 .mov files you get from the BBC iPlayer site using myplayer, does that play nicely in TCPMP? Full-screen? Can HTCAlbum or Windows Media Player play .mov files?

- If you connect to the iPlayer site using a desktop PC and download one of the full-resolution .wmv files (they're something like 720x540 and anamorphic), can you play that in Windows Media Player on the HD2 without dropping frames and with the correct aspect ratio? (I'm guessing not).

- Can you play BBC iPlayer material directly in either PIE or Opera using Flash? (I mean the desktop version of iPlayer, not the mobile one).
[HD2 General] Zepiii:
Yeah sorry, APN = Camera, its a french expression, totally forgot it was not english !

What about the camera in darkness condition? (compared to HD1). Is it still blurred and sucky?

Thank you !
[HD2 General] naTpuoTXDA:
Hi! Can u test Your HD2 with SKtools Benchmark?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
No, don't liek SKtools, sry
[HD2 General] salamt:
is there a way to have 4*4 buttons in sense home screen like this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHB_8_4cBw4&feature=player_embedded

Edit: the home screen in the video was done by a software called max manila tweaks for tf3D 2.5
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Was just away to say that. Googling for it now ^^

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=551489

From xda no less.
[HD2 General] Zepiii:
Xmoo,

You said you were going to make comparative (camera) picture taken from HD1 & HD2.

Are you still going to make it?

If yes, don't forget darkness conditions, & middle darkness conditions. Also, tell us about the problem that if we move, the image is blurred (like on the HD1), is it still present on the HD2 ?

Thank you !
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Well I figured otu a lot of website do have it.

But no problem.

2Morrow night probably.

2Morrow till afternoon the helpdesk will be closed.

Will do another Battery status every hour on Twitter.

Te 4x4 thing for manila, gonna try.

Just downloaded it.

Goodnight all!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
won't work for me, got a newer Manila 2.5 build.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Ah that's a shame.

I was going to ask you something xmoo, except I've forgotten what it was now...
[HD2 General] almosmm:
Plz can you Show us a Video of scrolling in the Album ( full screen mode ) :)
[HD2 General] Zepiii:
Impatient for the camera comparative test with the darkness conditions ;)

Thank you
[HD2 General] XdaIIs:
xmoo.

Did you test your FM radio after installing TT?

I did, and for some reason it does not work anymore (FM radio starts, but than crashes)

I'm 100% sure that this is after installing TT7
[HD2 General] jonneymendoza:
Hi, could you test the battery life with playing MP3 songs all day using headfones? i am wondering if it will last as long as a ipod touch when playing music
[HD2 General] XdaIIs:
small update.

After doing a "factory reset" of my HTC HD2 the FM radio was working fine again!

I 1st tried uninstalling TT, but that did not fix the FM radio crash.

I used "wince cab manager" to edit the TomTom install cab, and removed the files "BtCoreIf.dll" and "BtSdkCE30.dll"

After this I installed "my" version of the .cab file, and yes... All is working fine now...

Only problem with TT is that pinch / zoom does not work.

Thank you for the tip erikvario
[HD2 General] raphy82:
Running App on HD2

Hi,

can you confirm that you can run most of the wm apps in HD2 ?

If not, Does it have to do with that it is Cap screen ?

I realy like the apps and like to have them running in this device aswell.

Thanks for your answer.
[HD2 General] XdaIIs:
Till now I've only installed TomTom and Resco Explorer 2008, and they both work.

Let me know what programs you would like to test, and I see what I can do for you.
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
Can you pinch-to-zoom on Resco Explorer ?
[HD2 General] raphy82:
Apps on HD2

okey, here we go,

Paint like VS paint or Vs Note pad,

Media like Core player, SPB TV or Dimond TV,

Games like Sky force, and Emulators like nes snes + Roms

barcode reader + step counter or pedometer etc...

If you test these , can you tell us who the scaleing worked ? full screen ect.

Thank you so much...
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
No

I'll 1st need to huntdown the programs, and hope that they have demo versions.

Give me some time and I'll see what I can do for you
[HD2 General] AshHD:
xmoo, can you download and try the demo at this link:

http://www.southend.se/games/electopia/download.php

It has in-built GLES2.0 drivers. If it works might help our resident chefs get started reverse engineering some hardware drivers for general use - Let us know if it works? Thanks
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
I downloaded and installed the demo game.. Wow.. It runs (and sounds) great, but I've no clue how to play it (keep running into things)
[HD2 General] Bodisson:
Any of the happy owners tried A_C's S2U2 or other S2 applications?

I think that S2U2 might solve SMS problem... I repeat, might...
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
I'm new, and have no clue what SMS problem there might be, but I'm not having any SMS problems with my HTC HD2.

I do also not see the use of S2U2 as this option (slide to unlock) is already on the HD2.

Sorry if I misunderstood.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Battery test on my twitter!! www.twitter.com/Xmoo

Gonna make the pix now!
[HD2 General] acostaf:
Did you used any kind of push email ?
[HD2 General] bloke:
Read the 2nd post, it has all the details of what he is running...

Bloke
[HD2 General] xmoo:
If you also follow my Twitter you could have known.

I use Google for my Push
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
Xmoo,

It looks like your website is down

Ping (PM) me if you need a hosting deal. I might be able to give you hosting for free if needed.
[HD2 General] mskip:
Really good performance considering the size of the battery. With the amount of activity I would have thought it would be down 50% or more :D
[HD2 General] salamt:
I was wondering if you turn on the wifi+bluetooth+3g and started surfing the internet how hot the HD2 can be compared to the old HD (or TouchPro or X1)
[HD2 General] mskip:
Well its pretty damn hot already so I think it would be steaming ;)
[HD2 General] niknik76:
hey mskip, have you got yourself a HD2? :)
[HD2 General] mskip:
Not yet I have signed up for one on mobiles.co.uk and they have stated stock is expected today so hopefully I will be getting one in the next few days :D
[HD2 General] dickerd8484:
mskip=HD2=very nice
[HD2 General] zolom:
Two questions:

1. is multitouch zooming applies to iGO8 maps?

2. does wifi stops when in suspend state? (I'd read that it stays 'on'). If yes then can we overcome that without the need to tweek (HD Config) after each soft reset?

Thanks again for your detailed sharing
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Good morning all.

Even on hardcore use the device does not get hot

wifi is always on, you can disable that by tweak.

Zooming does work in igo
[HD2 General] bemymonkey:
Did you have the wifi always on during your battery testing? :eek:

That would be a huge plus-point for this device for my kind of usage.
[HD2 General] raphy82:
Apps on HD2

I can´t belive that no one have tried using some cool apps.

Come on....
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
I cannot get nowhere near the battery usage as xmoo...

From full charge at 5pm with GPRS enabled (3G/HSDPA disabled, wifi disabled), Push email/calendar/contacts enabled (but only getting about 1 email an hour) - it was on 83% by 11pm.

Wasnt even using the phone during that time.

:/
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
such as.... ?
[HD2 General] dragonii:
Xmoo,

Can you tell us if, on the home screen, you're able to see multiple Calendar appointments spanning over several days ? If so, what's the limit of days ahead you can see ?

This, for me, is a huge point on my next smartphone. I know that in WMO you had companies like SPB doing software offering just that but I'm wondering if the HTC Sense UI comes with that feature out of the box.

Thanks a lot.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Nope, I mean when you enable wifi, and go to stadby mode, it stays connected.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
You can only see one apointment on the home screen and lock screen. That's very very bad!

Mayb the gsm connection is bad in your earia?
[HD2 General] nologin:
Xmoo,

Two questions:

Does pinch to zoom works on Remote desktop application?

I'm a wm 6.1 user, is the RDP app for WM 6.5 more finger-friendly or the same as wm 6.1?

Thanks for your sharing.
[HD2 General] CanEpia:
Can you do a battery test with WiFi on constantly? It would be great to be at home and be able to leave an IM program in the background and pull emails without using high cost cellular data.
[HD2 General] nologin:
Deleted reply
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Well on the first day I got mine, it came with 45% batt.

Had wifi on for 3 hours with msn on and played with it almost the whole 3 hours, after that the batt came tot 10%.

So 3 hours wifi on and full use drained 35%.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Can ya'll help me searching for one? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4922105#post4922105
[HD2 General] bemymonkey:
That's what I meant - did you leave it on during the battery test you posted, or did you disable WiFi in standby via the registry?
[HD2 General] dragonii:
Sorry, must have escaped me while I was reading the whole 20+ pages of this topic :)

To avoid me redoing the same, can you just tell me if it installs and works ?
[HD2 General] DocteurN:
Hi xmoo !

Can you test call recording ?

See http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4921767#post4921767

Thanks ;)
[HD2 General] mskip:
It does install and work thats what he meant by "its been confirmed" :)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Hmz should work tho.

But will try soon.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
What puzzles me completely is the fact that every review I read says that .avi videos cannot be played from the stock video player, yet xmoo says that it can.

xmoo, do you have a normal device with a standard ROM?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Well every stock rom came with no or 2.1 net cf.

Mine came with 3.5 (did had to enable it in reg tho)
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Sorry, are you saying yours isn't a stock ROM?
[HD2 General] ozzydezilk:
Hi All,

I have one question regarding the GPS of my HD2. I now use Com4 Baudrate 4800 for both TT7 (other GPS unit) and Google maps. Google works fine but TT7 does not get a GPS fix. Should i use an other option?

Thanks!

Oscar
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Dunno.

Can someone else who has the HD2 tell me what .netcf version it came shipped with!
[HD2 General] poceh:
Me too cannot play .avi files - wmp says it can't open file; album doesn't display it with a thumbnail so I can't play it.

AVI file is 720 x 576, 25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)

Mine is 2.0.7045.0
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Why not keeping it on auto?

Weird that it works with incorrect settings.

Correct ones is Com4 and 9600
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Is anyone ever going to answer my questions about TCPMP and iPlayer? :(

If the standard HD2 cannot play xvid .avi files then this makes running TCPMP much more desirable (especially for people like me who are too cheap to pay for Coreplayer).
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Now we're getting to something interesting...

xmoo, what ROM version are you using? .Net CF version shouldn't have anything to do with video playback.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I'd say if the standard player cannot play .avi files for some people and can for others then it should be perfectly possible to enable .avi playback on all HD2s.

TCPMP is the horror of horrors in terms of UI, IMO.
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
And because you don't like it, I shouldn't be allowed to ask about it?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
I know but this may show that my rom is diffrent.

My ROM info is in my signature!
[HD2 General] raphy82:
Come on...

This phone rocks... cant wait till it come to sweden...

Can someone please try some of the WM6 or WM5 apps and see it it works ?

like -

Paint like VS paint or Vs Note pad,

Media like Core player, SPB TV or Dimond TV,

Games like Sky force, and Emulators like nes snes + Roms

barcode reader or pedometer etc...

This is everyday bacic apps that most of us uses...

Thank you
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Oh no, I didn't mean anything like that! I'd happily test TCPMP for you if I had an HD2. :)

I'm just trying to say that enabling HD2's stock player would be a much better solution. Would you disagree?

You ROM seems to be quite a standard one. You have a normal retail version of the device, don't you? Or did you get it via a special channel?

Sorry for asking this, but are you 100% sure your Album player can play xvid .avis? Would you be able to provide a ROM dump (maybe not right now, but for later analysis)?
[HD2 General] ozzydezilk:
With Com4 Baud 9600 Both tomtom and Google don't work anymore...

What do you mean with standard configuration?

I fact i have 3 questions:

Which settings do i choose in the phones GPS tab?

Which settings do i choose in TT7?

Which settings do i choose in Google maps?

Sorry but i'm not as technical as you guys are and the HTC guide doesnt tell me anything..

Thanks

Oscar NL
[HD2 General] ozzydezilk:
Concerning the ROM:

I also have Rom 1.43.404.1 (70124) NLD (duch version)

date 10/26/09

Seems to be standard as i didn't change anything to the Rom

Cocerning the apps:

I installed some incl Music ID (shazam) for WM6 and it's all working fine

Oscar
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Well, if that works, sure; but I think it's more likely that xmoo is simply mistaken, to be honest. It's an easy enough mistake to make to think that an .avi file is using a different codec from the one it's actually using.

TCPMP is also useful in that (unlike Coreplayer) it can decode AC3 audio.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
That's what I'm beginning to think as well, but I'd love to be sure before burying the dream.

Yep, that's true. With the horrible interface and slowness though if I had to resort to TCPMP for video playback I'd rather not watch any videos on my phone whatsoever. Until CorePlayer 2 comes out at least. But that's just me of course.
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
Not the case unfortunately - at home, the mast is about 400 yards from us... and at work, well I work for O2 (Network provider) so the cell site is always 100% fine :)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Auto settings.

Badboys2.avi .... No lie.

A friend of my who is also owning a HD2 since yesterday, has also withnissed bad battery.

So I dunno.... I can make screenshots on next test, so you guys believe it!
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Nobody's accusing you of lying! The purpose of all my questions is to understand why you are so much luckier then others - and hopefully making others' life a little better. How do you know this badboys2.avi is an xvid encoded video?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
The encoding I don't know, and never said I was shure that is has Xvid encoding.

Someone asked me can you play .avi, and I said yes.

I dunno. I had the first device here in Netherland (First retail)
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Ah, OK. Could you check the encoding in CorePlayer, for example (File - Media properties)?

And thanks for all your patience!
[HD2 General] hnparedes:
Can anyone confirm me something? It's possible to flash a non-WWE ROM with a WWE ROM, right? Or any other ROM.

Thanks
[HD2 General] peewee2:
Sense background image

Hi, I changed my background but now I want to delete it. In my old HD you were able to remove the background. Does anyone where or how to do this?

Thanks in advance.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
No, it won't be possible until HSPL comes out.
[HD2 General] hnparedes:
Well, yes, after HSPL is out :)
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
With HSPL you can flash anything. That's the point of HSPL. :)
[HD2 General] grgczyz:
Hello

Xmoo ... Could you play a little bit with Excel and tell me what are your impressions with operating it by finger. I'm a little afraid that operating Excel without stylus might be difficult :confused: ... what is your opinion?

Thanks in advance,

Greg
[HD2 General] poceh:
The version of mine is:

OS 5.2.21864 5.0.81

ROM 1.43.479.0 (69828) WWE

Date 10/22/09

Radio 2.04.50.20_3 (15.25.50.07U)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Go the where you can set background there you can choose the stock background.

No option to remove, but you have to select the stock bg.
[HD2 General] hnparedes:
I was 99% sure, just wanted to be 100% sure :D

Thanks
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
my version of the rom is:

OS 5.2.21864 5.0.81

ROM 1.43.404.1 (70124) NLD

Date 10/22/09

Radio 2.04.50.22_2 (15.26.50.07U)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Rom: 1.43.404.1

Date Rom: 26-10-2009

Radio: 2.04.50.22
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Same rom but diffrent date :S
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Made some hands comparisons with Iphone 3G, Kaiser, and a Eten glofish.

Will upload on Twitpic soon.
[HD2 General] benko286:
waitng to see 3g vs Leo :)

What i wanted to ask is can you rotate pictures in Album?

Can you check the followin:

-go to settings tab and choose wireless conections, is there any lag,or new windows opens instantly?

-go to start calculatro-is there any lag?

If you can also do:

Make a video: open opera and run www.softpedia.com, try

few

times moving to landscpae and back to porttrait(to see how fast rotating is)

after that close opera and go to pictures tab-rotate device to landscape and than fastly back to portrait(few times) to see how fast is rotatings, same try with music tab :)
[HD2 General] ovidiaconescu:
Thanks for the review! Looking forward to more comparisons.

I have a few questions:

1. Does it come with the car-holder and car-charger. Was your HD2 in the release package or one of the white pre-release ones.

2. The light sensor doesn't go up to 100%. Does it go all the way down? Do you need to change the back-light of the device when using navigation (IGO)? Is the screen bright enought during the day and dark enough during at night. I need to constantly change the back-light on my Touch Cruise when I'm driving cause of this problem.

3. Can you make some browser tests with other devices. Load a big website, like cnn.com or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_A4

4. Did you make any statistics as to how much traffic it does over the internet during a normal day.

Thanks xmoo!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
HTC HD 2 - Sony Ericsson Xperia X1

Xperia feels like candy, how small it is!

http://twitpic.com/p3rs1
[HD2 General] xmoo:
HTC HD2 - Apple Iphone 3G

Iphone felt like a fatty, HD2 feels way better.

http://twitpic.com/p3s8i
[HD2 General] xmoo:
HTC HD2 - Eten Glofiish x500

No comment, what a bad design, is like having a rock in your hands. +1 for HD2 even with his big size.

http://twitpic.com/p3snt
[HD2 General] xmoo:
HTC Hd2 - HTC Hero

The Hero felt like a Xperia X1, how small it is.

http://twitpic.com/p3sx4
[HD2 General] pietrucci:
Unless you have very small fingers it's not that super...yet.

I've been playing with my device since yesterday evening, it's a bit like learning how to swim... My main problems are that a stylus or other sharp object doesn't work and that my fingers are to big.

The screen is big though!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
HTC HD2 - HTC TyTN II

TyTN II feels 10 times bigger than the HD2, even when you put it in your pocket.

http://twitpic.com/p3t2f
[HD2 General] benko286:
What about scrooling in excel/word?

Multitouch works?
[HD2 General] DocteurN:
xmoo > I think you've got a problem with the resolution of your pictures...

Photos are crushed in width no ?
[HD2 General] pietrucci:
Scrolling function is new: when holding the scrollbar a square icons appears and you can scroll with that. Works fine for me.

Multitouch isn't (fully) implemented in the HD2. If you mean pinch to zoom: yes that works in Office too.
[HD2 General] benko286:
so it isnt like on my diamond(little scroll bar that is painfully to move, i almost always need stylus to scrool down(i can scroll down with my finger,but i have lucky that my fingers are thin, thogh using stylus is much more comfortable!)

can you post a screenshot/pic on how scroll bar looks in office(when you press on square, actually if you can fisrt take a screenshot of office with square and than when you pressed sqare;)
[HD2 General] hagba:
Flaxh test

Thanks Xmmoo for your great effort.

Im thinking seriously getting this device,just one question though:

Could you please try and see if the following links will open and load in the Opera and IE.

Thanks in advance.

http://tal.russiachess.org/online/index.htm

and

www.fritzmobile.com/wap
[HD2 General] hnparedes:
Hi,

I know that to install an unofficial ROM you need HSPL. However, is it possible to install a official WWE ROM in a device with a different ROM? If you install one of this ROMs, will I need HSPL?
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Yes, you need HSPL for any ROM that's not an official one with the same language as the one that came with your device initially.
[HD2 General] hnparedes:
hmm... That sucks!!! :confused: :(

Well, need to wait for HSPL!
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Indeed it does, I hate this HTC policy myself with a passion as I personaly never use localized software. For me it means that I can never have proper warranty! But it's the policy nevertheless.

Anyway, this discussion doesn't belong here, we are hijacking the thread.
[HD2 General] hnparedes:
Indeed, this is already going "out of hands" :)

BTW, Xmoo, thanks for the great help you're giving us
[HD2 General] xmoo:
If one of you guys wanna photoshop them for me,

pm me so i give you the original pix.
[HD2 General] mskip:
What do you need doing with them? I use PhotoImpact which is just as capable and im on downtime right now so if you want to pm me links with whatever you want doing with them I can do them now and get them right back to you mate :)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Well I cropped the pix for the in hands comparisen. But the pics look weird, if you can fix them better. Gimme ur mail or whatso ever in pm. so I send the you original pix, so you can add them next to eachother.