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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dinky:
There might be a long way to go for Sense to stablize

I played with the Sense version for an afternoon, and I have to say the interface is very sexy. But I really want the program tab though because I use it a lot to access programs that I use frequently.

As hvbelton mentioned, sometimes Sense will get "stuck". But it seems to me that as long as you wait patiently (unfortunately that's most of us don't have), it will eventually "wake up". In my case, when it became unresponsive, after the screen got locked by (I'm using SmartLock), I waited for a min or so then unlock the phone, it seems to always come back to normal.

Well, I rely on my phone for my work, so I wouldn't be able to stay with this version. I will have to try the base version for now.

xawen, great job. Please don't let Sense frustrate you. We understand there might not be much you can do to improve the Sense version. I think we (sorry, I would imagine most of the arrup's fan would think so too) are fortunate enough that you're willing to carry on arrup's great work to the next level. Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
For the lock...take a look a program called DeviceLock. It activates the built in lock whenever the phone goes to sleep. Since it uses the built in, it has virtually no memory/processor impact. I think the exe is like 42k.

On my phone, most of the cases I've seen where Sense lags really bad are when I switch to one tab and try to switch to another before the first loads. The worst would be going to two heavy tabs like music, then to album right away. The problem is the tabs kick off external programs that don't stop running just because you leave the tab. Album_searcher is a beast the first time it runs. Sense almost always recovers, but not until the external apps finish. Letting tabs load before switching should resolve most lag problems.

As far as getting frustrated by Sense, I'm not too worried about it. The guys working on that port are doing an awesome job and it gets better every day. Basically I'm just trying to do a couple things:

1) Include it in a way that I don't break what's not broken :)

2) Keep up with the updates they release

3) Include workarounds to fix what is broken until they can patch it up
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] karatche:
Xawen, thanks for your work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
1) Have you tried editing these settings through the Windows mail app? Click on inbox in the mail tab and it should work just like it always did. Not sure which settings you're looking for, but I see all the normal ones (that are missing from the sense settings editor).

2) This is a problem with the version of the HTC Messaging app I'm using. Unfortunately, the older one broke a lot of other stuff so this was the best option. The only little workaround I've found that if you scroll back to the contact info tab, one of the soft keys turns into a Back button that'll take you out of the app.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] karatche:
good information on getting out of sms.

Ok- I found my problem. I was trying to edit settings from manila tab. Once I went to Start, Apps, Messaging I was able to use the windows app. Now I can choose the download size, keep a copy oon server, ect. Thanks for the help. My bad.

I hope I can wiggle thru this. I really am liking the Candy so to speak. My battery life has been reasonable today as well. Put on charger at 1 am and still have 37% at 9:30 pm.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
No sooner do I say I don't know how to fix it, than the guys over in the Sense thread post another gem.

This cab adds a back button to the SMS screen. I'll make sure this one is baked into the next build.

Thanks for the battery info. I knew it looked pretty good from what I'm seeing, but I hard reset so often for testing that I never get a good feel for the battery.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wil Badger:
I posted a pic and a video of it. It should be 20 but for what ever reason it's low on the screen and the last row is out of view for some reason. I have not been able to figure out why yet. They all work and I have been adding shortcuts as I add my programs back to the ROM.

edit: I guess it helps to read the info posted in threads sometimes,LOL. It was because I was not putting it into full screen. Once I did that all 20/16 short cuts showed up I'll post some pics in a bit.

OK got the pics up. Remember this is running Max Ultimate theme to get the additional icons.

Standard View and Icon page

Fullscreen and Icon page

You'll notice with it fullscreen the last row appears giving you all 20 shortcuts
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] phonefan:
I'll be following your work very closely, and if Sense matures a little bit I may decide to take the plunge. My only real gripe is the icons- at some point could you release a cab to restore the stock look? To me the custom icons look dreadful.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wil Badger:
You might want to check out a theme called Dusk Evolution
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] silentP:
Many thanks dude. My kitchen is drawing dust the past couple of weeks. Midterms are here for me, so I'm concentrating on that. I'm downloading now. Thanks again...

silentP
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lantern20:
Not having the input settings in the personal settings folder was killing me because I couldn't turn off the auto-suggestion. I finally found the solution, found here.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
Thanks, this will be included in the next build.

By the way, I will probably have another build ready tonight or early tomorrow. I'm in the process of updating to all the latest HTC packages. This should make Sense run a bit smoother. Right now I'm waiting to see if the next version of the Sense port gets released today.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Sammath:
thanks for the mirror! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Azhar04:
I have a HTC tytn, please advise and by the looks of the pictures it doesnt seems to be compaitable with tytn due the location of the bottom buttons. Please inform if you are planning to release a rom for tytn as well!!!!!

I hope you do and very soon too... Cheers!!!!!:confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DHSoccer4:
Im seem to be havin some problem flashing this rom to my AT&T Fuze (GSM). I have flashed mannnnnny ROMs in the past with this phone, but for some reason after the red blue and green bars come up on my phone it seems to stall out. searched this thread and nobody has said anything. Any ideas? much appreciated
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lantern20:
You're awesome!!!

:eek:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] gando001:
Running Program Manager/task manager

In past versions of WM6.5, Ive been able to get a list of the programs currently running by holding down the end call button on my fuze, or in prior 6.1 by tapping the top right corner of the screen. I havent figured out how to do that with this rom- any hints? I know the dotFred task manager serves a similar purpose, but was the simpler program removed altogether from this version?

In the past ive used this application to vastly improve my battery life and performance by shutting down programs i was not using.

Other issues Ive noticed:

1. Sense Home screen customizations dont seem to work on my phone (ie changing the home wallpaper)

2. For some reason, my HTC media player will only play about half of a song before it decides to stop playing the track.

3. The new link option w facebook is extremely cool- but I cannot get the online photo album to operate

Great ROM!!! My fuze has come a long way from when I purchased it, thanks to you guys! I look forward to future updates.

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dinky:
Device autolock

Yea, but there's one problem about the built-in lock - if you enable screen autolock, that's what i will do, when you leave the phone idle for 30 sec (or whatever you set up in power setting) and after the screen dims, the lock activates, which is normal. But if you unlock the screen before the screen goes blank, the screen backlite will not come back up after unlocked.

SmartLock does not have this problem and the footprint is a lot smaller than s2u2 which i used for a long time. Anybody has other suggestions about device autolock? Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] karatche:
Will you be adding the additional quick links fix and the programs tab - if its stable yet?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Hemant:
xawen,

Thanks for your effort in keeping RRE roms still going. Could you please install EZInput 2.1.2 cab by default as if installed later it just brokes the htc messaging.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] walter67:
Congrats

X, glad to see you have started your own thread and progressing well as a chef. Keep up the good work.

As for me, have a nice working 20388 and am happy playing around with that and learning the more indepth things with regard to cooking :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] moopile:
Great ROM (rRedux WM 6.5 23506.2 w/out Manila) !!!! Thanks for the hard work and carrying on where Ryan left off !!!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kheechun:
Cannot SMS

I just realised that i can't send any SMS using this ROM.... the only way I can send is to open the contact list first, then right click on the person and choose send text message. If I send through HTC interface, it'll tell me that the message cannot be sent....

May I know where I can find the Restore Connection Setup tool? I'm using Touch Pro, not on AT&T...

There's an option to retry send for the unsent message, but even so it won't work...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lantern20:
Right now, I'm using 23506.2 with manila. I can't stand the new HTC Messenging. Really, it's just killing me. Is the 23506.2 w/o manila the "old" style messenging or does it have the new HTC style? I liked HTC Sense, but not enough to stick with it. I'm back to Titanium, it's clean, efficient, and customizable and more stable, can't forget that.

Thanks again xawen!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
The screen dim thing seems to only be a problem when using the registry hack to auto lock the phone. Since LockDevice uses the same call that the lock button in the start menu does, it doesn't have this problem. What you describes is actually the reason I switched to LockDevice...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
The programs tab is still very broken, but I'd definitely like to include the extra quicklinks. If that mod is compatible with the next release of the Sense port, I will put it in.

Actually it should be installing...I'll see if I can fix that for the next build. How does it break Messaging by the way?

I'll need to look for it. Does anyone happen to have a link?

A lot of people hate the new app...I'm kinda on the fence. But it's not in the no Manila version and I plan to keep it that way for those who don't want it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lantern20:
I'll be going to no manila again in the next version! Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dinky:
Viigo half broken

I just realized that Viigo is having a problem under 23506 build without Sense (I installed manila 2.1 through cab). When I go to "News & RSS", then go into a channel, then pick a headline in the channel, everything works at this point. But when I choose "get full article" under that headline (I tried different channels and different headlines to make sure it's not specific to certain channel or headline), Viigo will crash.

In the past, I think ROMs with problem running Viigo were because they do not have NETCFv2 installed (install through cab after flashing won't work). RRE ROMS never have the problem. I think (I can't be 100% positive) your first version of 23506 build did not have this problem. Did you change anything in the second version? Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
23506.3 is up and ready to go. Here's what's new:

[All] Updated most HTC packages to Leo version. Should speed things up a bit.

[All] Renabled Input applet in Control Panel (thanks lantern20)

[Sense] Updated to HTC Sense v1921

[Sense] Added 12 Quicklink mod (Uninstallable)

[Sense] Fixed shortcut locations on start menu

[Sense] Added back button to SMS screen

[Sense] Disabled HTC contact picker for HTC Messaging (it doesn't work yet)

[All] Updated to Album 3.2 VGA port

This build has a ton of updated HTC packages. So far it's helping quite a bit with speed/smoothness, but there's always the chance for bugs when changing that many packages out. Let me know what you guys find. I also updated to the v1921 port of Sense that came out this morning. It's only a few hours old, but I'm quite happy with the performance on this one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aristocrat51:
Remapping Left Soft Key

Great little app...works like a charm:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4960759#post4960759
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
Now that I have the new builds out, I'll take a look at this. Should be interesting since I know NetCF is installed and looks right. When it crashes, does it just disappear or is there an error?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aristocrat51:
Slots Full

Can't download...slots full. Any mirrors???
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
I'll see if I can upload to hotfile or something. I'm trying to find some web space to host these. I don't have enough bandwidth to host this many downloads of a 150MB file on my web server.

Edit: Looks like people are getting through to Rapidshare now. Never got hotfile to work right...

BTW, on the train ride home I discovered that I broke SensorSDK (G Sensor service) in the latest builds :mad:. There's a cab to fix it in post #3.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dinky:
Yup, it just disappear without any error message. I'll give your last build a try when I get home from business trip thursday.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Hemant:
Hi Xawen, thanks for the new rom, looks better however ezinput 2.1 still breaks the htc messaging though its not your fault. Installing 2.1 cab somewhere removes some dependies and hence this problem. So i was just wondering if it would work if it is precooked.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kheechun:
Landscape Support?

Hey xawen, are you going to add landscape support for HTC Sense? Maybe can port from Rhodium?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
Well, I see why it breaks. The packages (both cab and kitchen) contain old versions of the HTC common files like framework and flashlite. HTC Messaging and Sense use these too. I'm going to try to extract just the EZInput files, and not the dependencies and cook it in. Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll work with the newer common files.

None of the Sense releases (even on the Leo) have landscape support. The guys working on the port have hacked it into a couple of the tabs (I think Music might do it), but overall it's just not there. Someone actually did try the Rhodium/Leo frankenstein version, but it was really really (really) broken :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Wil Badger:
You might want to talk to this guy(rotastrain). He has pretty much a full version of landscape but I think it's only in WVGA.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] silentP:
Rotastrain is awesome, but he will only work with WVGA since he doesn't own a VGA device.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dalek_Caan:
Last I had really looked Ezinput 2.1 had not been updated in quite a while, that would be my guess as to why it breaks too. Also was there ever a real solution found to the keymapping on the Raph, or using other inputs like phone keypad without getting stuck in number mode? Those were items that kept me away from it
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kheechun:
when adding SMS contacts by typing in the "To" text box, suggestions appear, but it's email address instead of phone number. Any fix to this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] higherbeing:
awesome rom! Been using it for roughly 24hrs now, but i have noticed a couple issues

#1 the voicemail indicator will not go away, even tho I have cleared out my voicemail box multiple times. this may be an issue with the service provider... I dont know

#2 like everyone else said, the HTC messaging blows chunks. Is there any possible way to have the normal view co-exist with HTC messaging? that would be lovely since I understand its part of Sense

other than that, cant complain :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aristocrat51:
SMS

You can make the default SMS the old windows version which is easy to use and fast. I hate the new HTC messaging, so I get rid of it with this:

http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/Zenyee-Disable-HTC-Messaging-Download-82632.html
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Hemant:
Xawen,

Thanks for finding out the reasons and i am very happy you would be looking it in the future and i hope it works out. Also could you please use fingerkeybord 2.1 with arrows version since you have doesnt have number pad or arrows. The problem is that the cooked fb cant be uninstalled and installing over it gives a lot of problems. Please ignore if that is too much as it may not be important for you or a lot of other users. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ludojaco:
thank's to xawen for great rom!

i have update to 23506.3 from 23506.2,and i have 2 problem,first: the open album from sense and the photo scrollig cause a phone brick and it need soft reset,second:htc you tube don't open video .In the 23506.2 version i haven't this problem.

i'm sorry for the english ,i'm from italy.

Thank's
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
I switched to a new version of the Album in this build and I'm not at all happy with it. I will switch back to the other version in the next build. In the mean time, you can install the older version with this cab.

I had to disable Sense and soft reset to get the cab to install.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
Here's something I've been playing around with, thought you guys might want to check it out too.

The Touch Pro GPS has been laggy ever since it was released. Mach2003 has written an intermediate driver that attempts to compensate for the real driver's problems. I've been testing it for the past few days and (for me at least) is a big improvement. People seem to have very different results with it, so I won't be cooking it in but anyone who uses GPS a lot should give it a try.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lynam:
Connection Setup

Hi Xawen,

First, thank you for continuing Ryan's effort in the quest to bring us the best ROM for the TP.

Just to make a follow up on the Reenable connection setup

<a href="http://mobilemodcentral.com/aruppenthal/RRE%20Reenable%20Connection%20Setup.cab">http://mobilemodcentral.com/aruppenthal/RRE%20Reenable%20Connection%20Setup.cab</a>.

When I install the CAB, I don't get the connection setup prompt (to select my provider's settings) (like I used to with RRE roms). In the Control Panel\Connection, the "Connection Setup" icon is also not there.

Nothing urgent, since I can enter the settings manually, but it would be appreciated if it work again. I will try to find some time this week end to investigate on this.

Lynam
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lynam:
Connection Setup

Hi Xawen,

First, thank you for continuing Ryan's effort in the quest to bring us the best ROM for the TP.

Just to make a follow up on the Reenable connection setup

http://mobilemodcentral.com/aruppenthal/RRE Reenable Connection Setup.cab

When I install the CAB, I don't get the connection setup prompt (to select my provider's settings) (like I used to with RRE roms). In the Control Panel\Connection, the "Connection Setup" icon is also not there.

Nothing urgent, since I can enter the settings manually, but it would be appreciated if it work again. I will try to find some time this week end to investigate on this.

Lynam
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lynam:
Sorry for the double post...

I wanted to delete my <a> tags for the link as I typed them automatically but I clicked to fast! I'm not used to posting and I saw the option below "Automatically parse links in text" too late.

Regards

Lynam
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Dinky:
Second!

From reading the feedback from other, I think it's worthwhile to wait for next version because I'm running 23506.1 with manila 2.1 installed and it's running pretty smooth for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] coldbeer:
Thanks

Xawen,

Thanks for picking up the rom building. I was about to flash your latest but just saw 28002 is out in Da_G's thread. Are you planning on building that one? If so I will wait for the latest. Thanks and keep up the good work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
Heh, I have mixed feelings about him returning this week :). I almost went two whole days without flashing my phone...but I do love new build numbers.

But yeah, I've got a 28002 build cooked. I just haven't had time to test flash today. From what I'm reading in that thread it doesn't look like to big an update, but I've got some other things changed in the build as well (FingerKB with arrows for Hemant and Dinky :p).

I'll probably have a new build up sometime tomorrow...tonight I have to drive back to a bar to collect my credit card and close out a tab I forgot I had when I left :eek:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] higherbeing:
I noticed another little issue, for what ever reason I am unable to load an animated wallpaper. I scroll right to the settings tab, click "Personalize" then "Home tab wallpaper" then "animated wallpaper" 9 times out of 10 the screen goes black for a sec, then brings me back to the "home tab wallpaper" screen, when it does go thru, and show me the 3 choices of wallpapers, i can click one, and nothing seems to happen... Any ideas on how to fix this/work around this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
The wallpapers have been one of the biggest headaches in the Sense VGA porting process. I think there's actually a whole third option missing in wallpaper settings for just a regular non-animated background. It changes a little bit with every release of the Sense port. You can watch all the fun with the port here.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] higherbeing:
Ill check out that thread and see what i can come up with, its no big deal to me if the animated walls dont work, the weather ones look awesome anyways :D but just wanted to note that a friend of mine loaded a new rom onto his Touch Diamond, and the wallpapers are working... so i just wanted to point that out....

I just tested GPS (without the fix that you posted) and I have to say, what ever you did, is a miracle, my phone took <30secs to lock onto GPS sattelites, which for me is all time record

great job over all with this rom! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kheechun:
I realise that the bottom part of many softwares are covere partially by the new WM6.5 bottom taskbar, is there a fix to it? I think some of the WM6.5 ROMs does not have this problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kheechun:
Found a fix, using amarullz's Showcase Suite 1.1.0. I think you should integrate this instead of manila position fix.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] xawen:
Showcase Suite is awesome, but it's got a problem that I think Amarullz is still working on. When suite is running and you try to open several emails (sometimes only two) in a row, Outlook will crash and disappear. That's the only reason it's not in the ROM. I check his thread just about every day hoping someone finds a fix for that...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] overjjrk:
@ xawen - Off topic but, I noticed something in the screenshots. Your calander looks like mine......Go Flyers!!! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kheechun:
Hi,

I found that some of my softwares (mainly from skyscape) does not respond to finger scrolling. I was able to do so with the original ROM. Did HTC use an extra software to enable that? if so, may I know what software is that? Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] in2vnyl:
connection setup

I have the same problem with connection setup. I tried to enter my settings manually but having a problem connecting to the internet. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

This is a nice Rom Thanks heaps