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[General Questions and Answers] PJTOUCHHD:
I have just got an upgraded phone on Orange which is the HTC Hero, which I have given to my son on PAYG.

I put £10 credit on for him last Thursday - today it stands at £2, he hasn't made a phone call or sent any texts.

It seems that the phone is making data calls, he has had some Facebook messages and a few emails which shouldn't take alot of data usage, I have turned the weather updates off, email is now on manual send/receive as are Social networking etc.

Everytime the phone is on the credit is depleting at an alarming rate.

Can anyone offer any advice here or had a similar experience.

Thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] TheBrit:
It's a data centric phone. Though you don't have to have data switched on all the time. See if Orange can provide some type of data bolt-on for a fixed fee.
[General Questions and Answers] skrki:
Yeah... just create the data switch widget on the home screen and make sure it is off, unless needed. That's the first thing I do, since I don't have an unlimited data plan. Other than that, not much more you can do, unless you want to delete the data APN, in which case he will never have data connection.
[General Questions and Answers] PJTOUCHHD:
Thanks for the info.

First I checked the account online - all GPRS data. I have disabled the app auto connection and left the mobile data on, touch wood its now okay it's not taken any more cash from his account for over 18hours now.

I've switched to Dolphin PAYG - should get free internet and 300 texts!

Thanks again
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
Has many of you noticed, the touchscreen is way too sensitive and while typing / using the device, the touchscreen does not react correctly / works alone.

I think i found a way to at least make it a little better.

Install the cab and reboot.

Please tell me what you think.

Thank you.

EDIT: V2 of the tweak. It is my best. Can't find better results.

http://rapidshare.com/files/308896736/HTC_TouchScreen_v2.cab

or

http://www.4shared.com/file/155409836/f3823f42/HTC_TouchScreen_v2.html

in case you don't like it ..

http://rapidshare.com/files/308273174/HTC_TouchScreen_original.cab

Edit 2 - It seams that some ppl ( http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/hd2-capacitive-screen-too-sensitive ) like to judge without knowing what the problem is all about, so, two videos are really better than my english..

The problem in not about the display being to sensitive, is about it being precise or not and about ghost key-press ..

Just download the file bellow to understand what this is all about first...

http://rapidshare.com/files/307595308/touch_screen.zip
[HD2 General] yessirrom:
I am trying it now. The screen has been making me nuts. I have had mine for four days now. I read books using mobipocket and it will start changing pages by itself. It will also register random screen presses when using core player. And don't get me started on typing.....Hope this helps.
[HD2 General] yessirrom:
I do notice an immediate improvement. I will keep you posted, but the initial couple of tests feel way better. THANK YOU.
[HD2 General] Archer:
I should have thought of this before installing the cab, but do you have a backup of the registry key that it alters? (Just in case I want to back-out)
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
yes i have.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Cool. I'm not finding any difference, to be honest, but I was just about getting there with typing and have never had any phantom screen presses anyway, so probably not the best judge ;)

Would you mind posting either a cab or reg file for backing out? Not planning on doing it, but would like the option.

Cheers mate.
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
http://rapidshare.com/files/308273174/HTC_TouchScreen_original.cab
[HD2 General] Archer:
Cheers big ears :)
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
first try...seems to be much improved!!..will keep an eye and see if it really is better or just my imaginaton and wishful thinking
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
For me it's 100% better!

I can now type the alphabet in one go without any error's!

Way to go!!!!!
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
cool :D !! i thought it was better too so would like to hear more opinions.

keep testing and thank you
[HD2 General] docchris1980:
Hi,

can you explain, simply, what it actually does please?

thanks :)
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
It changes some values in: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel
[HD2 General] kazriel:
Ive been suffering nothing but grief from my touch screen, alot of phantom presses, if I just rest the phone in my palm and keep the screen untouched it goes crazy.

Just installed this a few hours ago, fantastic! Its probably too early to call it yet but this seems to have made a really big difference.

Thank you so much
[HD2 General] blackb1ade:
Can I ask - does this REDUCE the screens *sensitivity* in any way, or does it actually refine it's *accuracy* somehow? (if so, do you know how?)

Cheers :) (I'm considering it.....I dont get phantom presses but typing IS a *****)
[HD2 General] AndyGarton:
Another thumbs up here, seems much better. It's hard to know for sure if it's placebo/just getting better or not, but it's certainly no worse. It's also hard to describe what the change actually is, but the end result is that I get things right more consistently now.
[HD2 General] Appelsap:
Works fine here also, don't notice a difference in touch sensitiveness, but it seems more accurate, can't say how you did it, but I like it.

Could be a placebo effect ofcourse, then again, I still like it :p
[HD2 General] -NRG-:
I've tried it as well but i didn't notice any difference but i wasn't that unhappy with the screen sensitivity as well.
[HD2 General] Xaddict:
Phantoms

You could try a hard reset to see if it fixes your issue.
[HD2 General] bleary:
Amazing!!

Was just saying to a colleague if this was on an iPhone, its tough luck!!

However this has been fixed with a simple cab file installation. Dont miss my iPhone 3GS one little bit!!
[HD2 General] brinlarden:
lol i find it too un-sensitive now, but i guess thats becasue im used to the smallest thing making it work. i could type fast on the keyboard but now i miss letters out. i shall keep for a while though see if i can get used to it!

cheers!
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
So, is the only way to get this back to the way it was to do a hard reset? Any chance you could post of cab that will get the settings back the way they were so we can test one against the other? :D
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
OK, it does seem to make it easier to type :D but I wonder if it makes it harder to do other things. I just had quite a bit of trouble selecting a link. Anyone else get this problem?

Maybe I'm just not used to the capacitative touch screen? I do sort of miss my resistive screen from the Trinity a bit :(
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
page 2 you will find what you ask for....... search.

This is trial error. That's why i asked help on testing. I found the screen way too sensitive to the point that i managed to make it react without touching it.

( i'm also coming from an 3gs ).

I'm trying to find the best settings but the fix has to come from htc.

The driver that controls de touchscreen is a mess and htc keyboard links to that driver ( don't ask why, i do not know, just that the registry is there and it makes sence).

I noticed that when i use another keyboard like touchpal it's alot better so my theory seams correct.

Looking at htc history on almost no hotfix or they come 1 year later i guess this is the best we will get.. and it sucks.
[HD2 General] Dr.Sid:
Did you guys try screen calibration ?
[HD2 General] siksik6:
Can anyone re-port the CAB file please? That rapidshare link is "premium" accounts only now for some reason.
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
calibration gets lost on reboot.

Can't be. Links are in normal download.
[HD2 General] siksik6:
Well firstly it prompted me to become a premium member, now it's saying it's busy and to try again in two minutes.
[HD2 General] siksik6:
OK managed to eventually get hold of it. Seems a little better, although it's still not a patch on the iPhone keyboard.

Will do some more testing and feed back. Thanks very much for the patch.
[HD2 General] kazriel:
even better v2. Fantastic work, screen is working a treat now.

Thanks so much
[HD2 General] Sim-1:
Works like a charm now. Thanks for that!
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
ok :D Hope this helps you "unhappy" campers like me :D

Have fun
[HD2 General] polystirenman:
tested and 100% working.thank you!
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
I've used your 1st version. Now I see that you have a 2nd version.

Can I run the v2 over the v1, or do I 1st need to restore it?
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
just run over it and reboot
[HD2 General] Pantaloonie:
Certainly seems to help. I nearly threw the damn thing at the wall yesterday when I was trying to fill out a complex form on a website.

Now I seem to make a lot less typos.

Thanks!
[HD2 General] darken_rahl:
great work! it really helps. I just typed the alphabet to times without making a single error. The ghost that once resides in my HD2 is gone!!!

thx!!
[HD2 General] AndyGarton:
I can't get it from RapidShare either, any chance of attaching it here? Or even sharing the registry settings that it changes please?
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
don't understand why but! pm sent..
[HD2 General] clubtech:
Rapidshare link not letting me download.

Can you please attach the caps to the post? it will be much easier to download.

Thank you!
[HD2 General] br3nt:
"This file can only be downloaded by becoming a Premium member"

can someone fix a mirror if its ok with creator? :)
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
""""There are no more download slots available for free users right now""""

PM sent
[HD2 General] clubtech:
Can i get a PM as well please?
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
You can download it from here for now:

Removed by request from adolfotregosa.
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
If you don't mind i would like to keep track of the number of downloads.. to know if ppl are keeping it or not :S
[HD2 General] clubtech:
This Cab + Disable the vibration feedback + enabling typing sound + enabling spelling correction makes it feel like you are typing on an iphone...at least for me. And that is a good thing.

Thanks for the Cab!
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
I understand.

I've removed the links to the files.

Keep up the good work!
[HD2 General] tboy2000:
The cab works great thank you so much. I would love to add a link to your cab in my hints and tips thread if you don't mind. Please kindly let me know if ok or not.
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
Shure , why not ! please, just use the original links.

Thank you
[HD2 General] stuartforrest:
First test it seems much better thanks.

Having moved from a Touch Pro 2 the onscreen typing strangley seemed much worse on the HD2 despite its bigger screen. I was really missing my hardware keyboard too, I hope this will help.

Thanks again.
[HD2 General] Dutch-Leo:
I think the HD2 is a lot worse to use than the iphone, and even this upgrade doesn't make it much better.

It's less sensitive but now it feels sometimes like the screen is of the resistive kind, especially the backspace and spacebar don't always work as well.

The Sense UI also suffers from it IMO.

I'm going back to stock settings.
[HD2 General] Gerton:
works for me also, is there also a "between" version? its almost to unsensitive mostly with pinch zooming it sometimes dont see both fingers, if not pressing quite hard.

thanks.

maybe by editing the registery value's by 1/2 from original -> new .cab?
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
I'm back to version 1 again as this works better for me.
[HD2 General] abucas:
Wow what a difference this has made.

Can easily type one handed (quickly) now without all the errors I was getting before.
[HD2 General] Appelsap:
I see you have put up a version 2. I am wondering what you've changed, it could help me decide to try v2 vs v1 (which I have installed right now). Could you update the first post and tell us in which way it has been changed, ie closer to stock settings or the opposite or something different...?

Thanx!
[HD2 General] drfroz:
Thanks for this tweak. Like others said, not sure if it's just placebo or real, but it seems to make typing a lot easier! :D
[HD2 General] Gerton:
is the v1 also avalible somewhere?
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
v1 removed some sensitivity and that is not the point of a capacitive screen. That was WHY i asked for HELP on testing the tweak.. i did not say "USE it, it will make you touchscreen 100% correct.."

Some ppl ( http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/hd2-capacitive-screen-too-sensitive )just do not have enough intelligence to see the difference between trying to fix ghost presses on the screen / imprecise interpretation of were you actually pressed and that makes BAD ""news""... I just don't get it..

V1 should not be used, distributed if you still have it.

Regarding making it more "sensitive".. i can do that but that will bring back what this is all about.. Until htc realizes we are not joking ( c'mon, who are we trying to trick ?? this topic has almost 5000 views !!! that has to mean smt ), the screen has life of its own!! I'm pressing backspace not "b" or "n" .. i'll stick with this "not that good of a fix, i admit, but better than nothing" :S
[HD2 General] HSKalay:
I'd like to try this - but if I want to take it off (for whatever reason) I can use that link provided yes...does that restore whatever registry changes were made in order to try this?

I have made other registry changes (tweaks to power management) those will stay if I use the option to remove this?

Sorry abotu the questions, I'm new to all this!

Thanks in advance.
[HD2 General] tnyynt:
Off topic!

Buddy, you think your thread has 5000 views because there are 5000 HD2 owners? Guess again! Your thread has 5000 views because people who you say "do not have enough intelligence" happen to be editors at the no. 1 website for Windows Mobile and have exposed your thread to 15.000 readers.
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
Fantastic news!! really !! but 5000 actual hd2 owners ?? no, but i do have a little good sense to look at that numbers and see "possible future 5000 hd2 owners" !! Now that i know that i'm not alone on this problem, I only hope that it could be officially fixed and "have exposed your thread to 15.000 readers" is really good news. I just wanted that it was the correct news, not that "and after trying and applying so many tweaks, hacks and edits to increase sensitivity on the classic resistive screen devices, now that we've got increased sensitivity on a capacitive screen, it's too much to handle".

That was unpleasant to read
[HD2 General] Appelsap:
Dude, relax, it's not personal - and you have to admit there is some irony in this.

I think I speak for al lot of ppl here when I say that we really appreciate what you are doing, we have similar experiences and love you for being the one to work on finding a solution - we will provide you with feedback, and perhaps you can finetune it even further. If any comments made are useless to you, ignore them (even if it's mine here :p)
[HD2 General] adolfotregosa:
Unfortunately there is.. Really, i have tried and retried and reseted so many times and cannot find better settings that this one. I'm out of values. The fix will have to come from htc.

I'm the first saying that i miss the iphone capacitive screen and that i was really not expecting to ever be talking about hd2 "bad" capacitive screen ! I can only hope for better times.

I really feel like this ...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=587266
[HD2 General] GeitjeG:
I'm using it for a day now, and I'm not yet sure what to think. I can notice keypresses are missed more often now, but also less mistakes... I guess also the size and warmth of your finger is invloved, cause the screen reacts to warmth....?
[HD2 General] chalid:
installed the cab and can confirm that the screen sensitivity goes down by a lot. not sure i will keep this, because i didn't have much of a problem with the old settings, only occasional typos ... we'll see.
[HD2 General] user_last:
works great for me, thanks!!

i've gone and used regedit to change the values myself... hope i haven't missed anything besides the keys below?

"FingerThreshold" value="40"

"FingerupThreshold" value="40"

"NoiseThreshold" value="40"

"XBorderFilter" value="8"

"YBorderFilter" value="8"
[HD2 General] thimiost:
i think that you did a great job

My hd2 now is better tuned :)

THX
[HD2 General] ddeluxe:
sometimes when i wake my hd2 up the screen doesnt react at all. i have to press the hang up button a few times then it works. am I alone with this??:D
[HD2 General] djet:
Could you point out what these registry parameters actually change, each of them?
[HD2 General] ivanohtchd2:
Ciao,

I'm tried to restore my HTC HD2 with the original .cab but it looks like it has beem removed by the server.

Pls. can you tell me where I can get this file?

Many thanks

ciao
[HD2 General] spark001uk:
List of registry changes made

Hi guys, i have the v2 tweak but not the file which reverts it back to normal. However, i opened it in winrar and viewed the xml file, the portion of which i've pasted below shows the registry changes that are made, so all you've got to do is use a registry editor and make a note of all the default values before you change them to the values below.

For those of you who may not have the default settings, i will try and make a note of mine and post them here shortly.

characteristic type="HKLM\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel"

parm name="XBorderFilter" value="8" datatype="integer"

parm name="YBorderFilter" value="8" datatype="integer"

parm name="NoiseThreshold" value="40" datatype="integer"

parm name="FingerThreshold" value="40" datatype="integer"

parm name="FingerupThreshold" value="40" datatype="integer"

parm name="YNegative" value="0" datatype="integer"

parm name="YPositive" value="0" datatype="integer"

parm name="XNegative" value="0" datatype="integer"

parm name="XPositive" value="0" datatype="integer"

parm name="YAvgDis" value="48" datatype="integer"

parm name="XAvgDis" value="48" datatype="integer"

parm name="MultiDebounce" value="30" datatype="integer"

parm name="SipExpand" value="10" datatype="integer"

parm name="Sipmenuwidth" value="40" datatype="integer"

parm name="SleepTime" value="0" datatype="integer"

parm name="HWSleep" value="0" datatype="integer"

parm name="HWMode" value="201" datatype="integer"

parm name="driverMode" value="65535" datatype="integer"

parm name="timeClick" value="900" datatype="integer"

parm name="maxAvgsize" value="1" datatype="integer"
[HD2 General] spark001uk:
Ok, here's the values - only 5 of the 20 settings are altered:

location = HKLM\HARDWARE\Setting\TouchPanel

Tweaked values:

----------------

"XBorderFilter" value="8"

"YBorderFilter" value="8"

"NoiseThreshold" value="40"

"FingerThreshold" value="40"

"FingerupThreshold" value="40"

Default values:

--------------

"XBorderFilter" value="5"

"YBorderFilter" value="0"

"NoiseThreshold" value="0"

"FingerThreshold" value="0"

"FingerupThreshold" value="0"

I've just applied the tweaks now to my unit, so please do post back on how it works for you?

EDIT: Well ive been using it quite a bit this evening and so far it seems to be a marked improvement! I mean it probably depends on the individual, size of fingers, typing speed etc etc, but on the whole it seems better. Its certainly cleared the problem when you tap a letter and it goes all over the place! Not too over the top tho either, i havent noticed any missed letters so it seems the values are pretty much spot on!

Well done for this tweak Adolfotregosa, thank you!! :)
[HD2 General] Admin0389:
Hi Guys,

I dont know if anyone has noticed or not but the new firmware thats on the HTC website at the time of writing this works much better than firmware that gets shipped with most (older) HD2's or HD2's that have been shipped with contracts.

I've had 2 HD2's side by side and the difference is very real and noticeable, it made me very scared my screen was defective at first.

Anyway, my flat mate is asleep at the moment, but if anyone wants i'll try and get on tomorrow with his registry configuration and mine to see what the differences are?
[HD2 General] Admin0389:
The default settings under

HKLM\HARDWARE\Settings\TouchPanel

HKLM\HARDWARE\Config\Touch

HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH (with the exception of DWord:CalibrationData)

Are all identical for the 1.43 & 1.48 Versions.

But my initial point that there is a definite difference between the versions remains.

Those with screen jitter, what are your ROM versions?
[HD2 General] graham_uk:
I had a play with these numbers and for me, found tweeking to the following didnt require too much screen pressure to use the UI the but still cut out the typos in SMS

"XBorderFilter" value="8"

"YBorderFilter" value="8"

"NoiseThreshold" value="20"

"FingerThreshold" value="20"

"FingerupThreshold" value="20"
[HD2 General] davidcopus:
Hi

Are those double-digit values hex or decimal, please?
[HD2 General] spark001uk:
They are decimal values.
[HD2 General] davidcopus:
Yes, thanks - I guessed they were, wanting to start gently with a small change.

Thanks for your response. I've used those.values and it's so nice that my HD2 now feels more reliable under the fingers.

Incidentally, anyone: has anyone noticed that with the default configuration the keyboard seems much more stable when XT9 is deselected? I'm quite certain I'm not imagining it. Try it out
[HD2 General] chimpsinties:
Are people still finding they need to use this tweek even with the newer builds of WinMo6.5 like 1.61 or 1.66? :confused:

I don't know if it's just cos I've got used to it now but I desperately needed this when I first got the phone and it was on version 1.43 but ever since installing 1.48 and above I've not found that I've needed to install it at all. I'm now using 1.66 and it seems fine. :cool:
[HD2 General] RainesX:
Anyone have a cab of the deafult settings?

I have put on a Screenprotection and think it would work better when a little more sensitive.

Im using zagg invisibleSHIELD.

or does the v2 of this cab work better?
[HD2 General] American-Seller:
How can i get the original.cab? I installed a InvisibleShield so i need it more sensitive. Thank You!
[HD2 General] mingkee:
On three "threshold", I use 25-30 instead of 40. Now the screen is a lot more stable and it doesn't go crazy on touch.
[HD2 General] otacon:
Hi all. Is it just me, or both links are not working? Seems like the uploader has removed the files...

I really need this... typing is making me crazy...
[HD2 General] Titicaca:
the same problem here ... the uploader has removed the files... for both links
[HD2 General] aegidios2:
Consider hotfix 08787....

the only patch that work 100% with my device is the hotfix 08787 V1.0 witch contain new touchscreen drivers ....
[HD2 General] sculpture:
Cab. files

Could someone Please repost the cabs to slow this thing down, it is impossable to type on the keyboard, so I can not use registry edit because of typos. Thanks for Your works!!!
[HD2 General] sculpture:
Thanks anyway the typing problem went away on it's own, strange.
[HD2 General] adamlayzell69:
mmmm guys, you don't need no cabs. just install HD tweak and adjust the finger pressure (P.S. reduce the pressure) setting until the screen reacts like you want it. I have had the same problem as all u guys with the HD2 screen (coming from the HD1 and touch diamond 2) fat fingers and no stylus makes for pressing "delete" in a text message over 15 times. Try Hd tweak and when u find you something near re-calibrate your screen and you will find you will be typing texts mint again!!!
[Wing, P4350 General] timowong:
Hello everyone,

I've been having problems with my tmobile wing... (unlocked, with firmware came from t-mobile)

When I have no sim card inserted, the device boots up perfectly with 100% battery life.

However, with the sim card inserted, the wing keeps rebooting, and when it finally boots up, it complains about battery being low and shut down. I tried plugging it in while starting it up, and it shows 1% battery life. Removing the sim card brings the battery life back up to 100%

tried the same sim card in my nokia 5800 and no problems at all =\ so I wouldn't assume it to be a sim card problem....:confused: