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[HD2 General] TheTroubleMaker:
Same here hope this will be fixed :(
[HD2 General] TheTroubleMaker:
Its really works :D
[HD2 General] dagrim1:
Hmmm, btw... the 'tap to compose text' is still very unresponsive, also after this 'workaround'. The messages are loaded instantly but it still doesn't respond (the send button DOES, kinda strange).

Anyone else having problems with an unresposive 'Tap to compose text' area?
[HD2 General] TheTroubleMaker:
Not allways.. 1 out of 10 tries its slow yes..
[HD2 General] TheTroubleMaker:
Anything new ?
[HD2 General] max1274:
I contacted HTC about this and they just told me to install the SMS hotfix, I did it but it makes no difference, I think that hotfix is designed to fix the delayed sending/receiving issue that others are having.
[HD2 General] bboerny:
sms hotfix --> crap

...it definitely does not fix the delayed sending issue either :mad:
[HD2 General] bzdemes:
This is soooooo silly. Its soo bad that even people i don't text very often are now getting slow.

I clear the messages every week or so now to keep it reasonably responsive but thats sooooo silly only cleared the messages once on my old K850i in 2 years lol. This i have done it 4 times in a little over a month.
[HD2 General] TC_007:
Same Problem here... by the way, is it possible to send more than 6 SMS in one Message?
[HD2 General] Stom:
I have the same issue. I have found a semi-solution for it:

Tap the "Send" button without writing anything. When the message pops up asking "Are you sure? Message is empty..." hit no. Then tap in the writing area and the on-screen eyboard will appear instantly.

Not ideal, but faster than waiting for it to load on its own.
[HD2 General] jkolner:
Keyboard chooser

Another workaround for the sms delay problem is to tap the keyboard chooser twice, after that you can write.
[HD2 General] chongbh:
For me, I disable the HTC Sense interface and use back the WM6.5 interface but discover that the messaging always use conversation mode by default.

When you switch to traditional mode or using the BBS Tweak, it will switch back to conversation mode after a phone reset.

At least, it does not take long time to load previous sms when replying a sms with the WM6.5 interface.
[HD2 General] dagrim1:
Just created this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=608162

Perhaps something to give a try for the brave?
[HD2 General] maximus_N_:
Just wanted to say I also have the lag (like everybody). I noticed the very small 'scrollbar' on the right of the screen getting smaller until the phone has loaded ALL messages to and from this person. You cannot do anything until it has stopped.
[HD2 General] htc12345:
When a long list of short messages is displayed indeed the scrollbar is a nice indicator for when all messages are loaded. Once all messages are loaded, the keyboard will show up when ticking the new message area on the bottom of the screen. Strange.
[HD2 General] uccoffee:
Have you ppl report to HTC yet?
[HD2 General] htc12345:
sent a message to htc about this just after posting above :)
[HD2 General] uccoffee:
I just got a reply from HTC, and they just told me to just install the SMS update .

I have forward the link of the post to them. And i definitely think they do not read before answering my complain..... hopeless
[HD2 General] dude0014:
What I sent:

The HTC HD2 has a serious issue with the SMS application. It takes very long to load a SMS thread and start typing a new message. The lag is very annoying especially considering the phone is so advanced. Is anything being done to fix this issue? As every other person using the HD2 has this same issue. The SMS update (fix) does nothing to resolve the matter. Please reply. Thanks.

What HTC replied:

Dear Valued customer,

First of all we would like to apologize for the delay and the inconvenience.

Please follow the steps below to solve your problem:

Please remove any 3rd party application on your device then:

Soft Reset :

1. With your thumb or finger, open the back cover by lifting up from the left side of the cover.

2. The RESET button is located at the bottom left below the battery compartment and SIM card slot. Use a small object with an unsharp, pointed tip such as a toothpick to press the RESET button.

Note: The phone does NOT have a stylus, it's capacitive touch screen (best used with your finger).

If the soft reset didn’t solve your problem please perform a hard reset:

Hard Reset :

1. With the phone turned off, press and hold the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons, then press the END/POWER button shortly and release it. You will then see this message on the screen.

2. Release the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons.

3. Press the VOLUME UP button to perform the hard reset, or press any other button to cancel the reset.

?? I really dont know whether to laugh or be annoyed..
[HD2 General] mr_wi:
There is an update listed on the HTC support site relating to SMS funtionality, this new fix arrived today 14th Jan 2010.

I'll try it out now and let you know what I find.

Update for HTC HD2 – New SMS Function Update

This update is only applicable to ROM version is equal to 1.66.XXX.X, or lower.

OK, installed with no problems, this update appear to allow the conversation thread to load in the background while you type a new sms.

Long over due! But pleased this fix is finally here.

Unbranded UK HTC HD2

ROM 1.48 WWE
[HD2 General] DonDolowy:
The delay is not present with Duttys ROM.
[HD2 General] htc12345:
correct.

and also fixed by HTC new sms hotfix in the meantime :)
[HD2 General] -Vulture-:
Yeah, the lag is definately gone with this new messaging client version.
[HD2 General] rexboy:
Alternative

I know this is not a direct solution for the standard Messaging, that should be able to load many sms's as with previous models but how does it perform when using a 3rd party SMS app like Vito chat.

I havent tried it on the HD2 yet but on the older P3450, i never had any lag, but occasionaly have a slight lag with the HD2.

Before i try, i was wandering if anyone else has used Vito sms chat with the HD2 and how does it compare?
[HD2 General] MalekoUK:
Has anyone else had this with the HTC update to SMS:

You open the message, you see it loading the messages int he background and you type away, but once it has loaded all the messages it selects the last messages received and you can't see what your typing, it still types but you can see it, you have to click in the text box again to see what your typing...if that makes any sense.
[HD2 General] Jawb:
That's a "bright" idea from HTC to show you, which message you are replying to. So it is supposed to do so. The "only" problems are that it does it way too slow, remove focus from the writing field and that it often doesn't hightlight the right message (at least on my phone!)...
[HD2 General] dortok:
Same issue for me. I wonder if there is a way to fix this.
[HD2 General] world705:
I found this, pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/sms-keyboard-lag-fix it seems to of fixed my problem. I have latest firmware etc couple thousand messages + emails etc.

No more lag on sms viewing etc.. messages still load but load with out lagging.

The description says you loose the counter.. mine didnt lol ?!?

See if this helps?
[HD2 General] Jawb:
Sounded really great, unfortunately it doesn't really seem to change anything to me. The lag I get is because the phone is silly enough to load all messages over and over and over again...
[HD2 General] spireite_uk:
The SMS update from HTC fixed this issue for me. I only have one minor proble, which is with the Swype keyboard, but I can cope with it. Slowness was a MAJOR bugbear of mine until I installed the SMS update.
[HD2 General] world705:
did you apply then restart ?
[HD2 General] Jawb:
Yes I did...
[HD2 General] world705:
just an update.. still lags out but not straight away this time.. seems to be as i've made a phone call since then its lagging..
[HD2 General] gatzgurl:
same things here :( too bad.... its almost perfect but the camera is a bit problem either.. ggrr!
[HD2 General] world705:
well practically everything lags.. eg. start menu when sliding up and down. checking emails. etc
[HD2 General] world705:
ok new update tried installing new keyboard etc.. restarted..

http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard.php

yes i no its older version but its the one i tried, its changed the autocomplete for the keyboard seems to of made a difference..

I dont have lag problem so far, been using for few hours now.. using phone / email / text etc and couple of programs open.

if it does lag i will keep informed. be nice to see if someone else can try this as well?
[HD2 General] world705:
no lag at all at the moment. just need someone else to confirm
[HD2 General] tuηay:
I have the same issue, with my Leo. This is the most basic function which should work!
[HD2 General] world705:
just started lagging again great
[HD2 General] tuηay:
lol

I hope HTC are working on this phone!
[HD2 General] robertyou:
Well I figured that I might as well just avoid going to the messaging tab, instead, I made a quick link to htc messaging on my home screen.

Now I can just go straight into "All Messages" and select the contact to reply without highlighting any message before i type.

P.S. would be great if HTC makes it so only recent messages are loaded at once (say like only the last 25 messages..), and perhaps the rest can be archived..
[HD2 General] Phantom3D:
I also have this problem. Very hard to send sms when you have got 60+ messages with one person. This was no problem with my Iphone (I never deleted a message!)

Deleting them manually is not an option, I need them all for the record.

A fix with only the last 25 msgs showing and the rest archived seems nice.
[HD2 General] avorkinn:
HTC, stop ignoring this loading issue, came with an update!:mad:
[HD2 General] webpatrick:
ATTENTION

This UPDATE works, no SMS-reply lag anymore...

http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
[HD2 General] Phantom3D:
No, it does not help. We mean the "lag" when you open a conversation with 30+ messages. It takes time to load the whole conversation, during this time typing is unresponsive and laggy.
[HD2 General] Jawb:
...and many of us can not install the update. It is not "compatible" with the version, which is standard 1.66.
[HD2 General] iwang:
anyway its a very stupid idea not to have a dedicated update button/link on the cellphone..thats why so many people get mixed up getting wrong rom, very slow download from htc junksite etc..

:D :D now what...it is indeed slow..this phone...and i just realize that there are no pup up sms !!!! wtf
[HD2 General] JamesRC:
I've emailed HTC with the issue twice now, both times they have said they are unaware of the issue. I have explained exactly how to replicate it and even linked to this thread!

All users experiencing this issue, please contact HTC since if they are made (more!) aware of it, there is a better chance they will sort it out!
[HD2 General] kishanbhashyam:
I have the same problem.. i just get away from deleting the messages.. they work well then.. but again seem to lag when it accumulates txts.. i wish there was a way to speed up the reply as its frustrating waiting for the text cursor to appear..
[HD2 General] Jawb:
I have tried to email them, and after third time trying to explain the problem and them telling me to update (which I of course already had done) I gave up...
[HD2 General] m0j0j0j0123:
Oh, just been talking about this in another thread, I have this issue too, only become really apparent in recent weeks, so looking forward to an answer from HTC or a fix from one of the uber techs here if possible.

Its a shame something this simple has ended up with a flaw! :(
[HD2 General] dragonglance:
i have emailed HTC about this too, i just got an email back telling me to put the text messages into traditional mode instead of conversation mode. I see this as a cop out and not a fix GRRRRRRR
[HD2 General] iwang:
hahaha conventional mode we are going back back to ericsson 388 and nokia 3120 days :p:p:p
[HD2 General] Phantom3D:
I have also sent two emails too them linking to this thread.. Hope we'l get a fix soon!
[HD2 General] aggieman2k7:
my email

Here's what I sent. I will post their reply...

'"Hi. I recently bought the HD2 for T-Mobile, and I definitely wanted to bring the SMS lag to your attention (I am certain I'm not the only one.)

PLEASE dedicate time to fixing this. Your engineers have done an amazing job designing this handset, but allowing this error to continue or just sending out an email saying to "delete all messages, or do a soft/hard reset" won't cut it. Switching to the traditional mode or installing an outdated SMS patch does not have an effect either.

I have faith in you guys, but please help your loyal fans out here. FIX THIS, PLEASE!"
[HD2 General] JamesRC:
I have not had a response yet, from 2-3 emails mentioning the issue and linking to this thread; hoping no news is good news!
[HD2 General] bikerguy:
This is a serious flaw in an otherwise brilliant phone. This will only become apparent to people as their messages build up. We all owe it to each other to pressurise HTC in finding a solution to this issue. For now I am getting by with deleting messages as the start to build up. No good for Hi-Tec device like this.
[HD2 General] Arie_Nu:
On the same rom I had it and now its gone

I installed Touch X perience rom of 3/4 and with 1 cp I have over 600 messenes, the first time it took forever to load, device hangs, but after installing some software oa a Dutch t9 cab (and more language)

I return to see the performance and strangely enough it loaded in just few seconds and also no delay typing with T9???

Beats me, did a hard reset (due to optimizing going bad) bud second too.... fast text messaging system. I'm very glad :-)
[HD2 General] simeezee:
I don't think there's an official update from htc yet. I usually just delete txt as often as possible.
[HD2 General] Nicrosoft:
It sucks because all they have to do is load the last 10 or so messages then put a buttun for older messages like 6.5 natively handles it...
[HD2 General] Raadius:
HTC needs to fix this issue NOW. Only load the last 15 messages and archive the rest like the iPhone. What's so hard about that HTC?
[HD2 General] dicksonjoe:
exactly.........God I don't want to live with this phone with such a ridiculous problem...sms lag..sigh
[HD2 General] rhuagh:
I submitted a fairly similar description of the problem to HTC last week, then went through the motions of flashing a particular ROM they wanted me to flash and trying again. Despite still having the problem while running the same ROM as them they said they couldn't reproduce the problem and didn't know what I was talking about.

It's annoying enough that it makes me consider using windows mobile without sense at all :(

Also, while the messages are loading, tap any of the loaded messages to bring up the menu for that message, hit back/close straight away and all the messages will be loaded straight away. It makes no sense.
[HD2 General] edangel:
i ve got excactly the same problem..i reinstalled two times the stock 166 rom and again all the same issues...so i send an email to htc and they told what about my imei and serial number to procedure the problem of sms lag..i am still waiting for an answer..hope to find a fix cause it getting very annoying...otherwise hope the dev chefs could port an android o.s into hd2 to run something else cause htc sense is dying...too bad for such a hitech devise..really too bad!
[HD2 General] uccoffee:
edangel,

Copy my post and send to HTC if they say they cannot reproduce the problem.

update:

I have got a call from HTC on the same day after I sent them a email.

They still say they cannot reproduce the problem with the 1 SMS instruction. But anyway, they said they can reproduce the issue with anything more than 20 SMS , which is great to know that they admit there's SMS problem.

The tech said the case will be pass to engineer and give me a respond within 2 weeks that means 23/4.

I personally do not believe that they will be able to fix it within 2 weeks.
[HD2 General] dicksonjoe:
Do you guys think windows 7 will fix this problem???
[HD2 General] canurollwiththis:
Another basic work around for this issue is to go into your message inbox and press menu and choose traditional mode. With traditional mode I do not run into any lag. Now it should be noted that in traditional mode none of your messages are threaded which is kinda a bummer, but typing is so much faster in this mode. My advice is stick with this mode and if you really are searching for a specific message in your message history switch back to threaded mode and find it. Then simply switch back again to gain your speed back once. Its cumbersome but it works until we get a fix.
[HD2 General] Urosino:
This is probably like 10min of coding, but I am not really sure why they can't release hotfix for this.

Most annoying bug of HD2.
[HD2 General] Spl4tt:
why not just use standard windows messaging? ^.^

doesnt need to load when u want to reply, FOR ME it just lags when i quit one sms thread, it lags for like 5 secs then its normal forever, till i end the process

-> means i let the progress run the whole day till i go sleep, so it never has to load

multitasking ftw?
[HD2 General] lbhocky19:
yes using regular sms works great but its a fancy phone it would be nice to have the fancy htc messaging work properly. as everyone has been saying just have it archive the older like the iphone or standard winmo messaging
[HD2 General] Lokosis:
I've always had this problem with the phones, using an HD at the moment, and switching to Classic mode from Threaded fixes the delay problem, but then you're degrading the SMS viewing.
[HD2 General] JamesRC:
I've reported it again with the procedure outlined here. Hoping for the best!
[HD2 General] bradleyyy:
I have the touch diamond 2 with the same problem and still no hotfix released to resolve the issue. Does anyone know how to install the HD2 update onto the Touch Diamond 2? Any help is appreciated.
[HD2 General] IannEefje:
lets start a Facebook Fan-page for this bug and see what HTC will do! I bet thy gonna fix it in a week! if thy found out about the Fan-page...
[HD2 General] Urosino:
Or we start an online petition :p

HTC guys don't give a *** about weird issues we have...
[HD2 General] IannEefje:
Ok lets do that... and by that i mean will you start one :D?

or do you wanna w8 till next year for this fix?:rolleyes:
[HD2 General] Urosino:
Haha, just when I thought you have plenty of time to start a petition. I guess I was wrong. We will never see this SMS bug(feature) fixed.
[HD2 General] JamesRC:
Here is their latest reply:
[HD2 General] IannEefje:
take a look at this my friend:D
[HD2 General] dlo5:
this is ridiculous.......
[HD2 General] ej713:
i have the same retarded problem of slow messaging app and on top of that at times i dont even receive the message. the phone's screen lights up as usual when i get a message, but no new message appears and i know for a fact i got a message (ask my friends or them complaining of me not replying)
[HD2 General] JamesRC:
there is a new messaging version floating around from 2.11 / 1.74. will test it soon to see if anything had been improved.
[HD2 General] JamesRC:
Update:

I've installed CleanEX UniQ v1, with the latest messaging, and it seems that the issue has improved, but is not resolved. The last message is still highlighted when opening the conversation, but in my tests so far the lag seen when typing whilst the conversation is still loading has reduced. This may be entirely due to the change of ROM or optimisations g.lewarne has made, but I think that the new messaging app has helped.

If anyone else can verify, might persuade others to flash a newer (2.11 based) ROM.
[HD2 General] reorx24:
One of the rare time I miss the Android device I sold to get an HD2.

Handcent SMS for Android was awesome.
[HD2 General] aLlamaWithARifle:
in the 250ms delay thread htc have started to admit there is a problem, they used to say they have not had other complaints and put it down to a faulty device. Maybe if we just all quote each others tickets numbers they may begin to atleast admit there is a problem
[HD2 General] uccoffee:
I got a call on firday , and the tech said they can reproduce the SMS delay / jump to last SMS problem. But cannot find any bug in HTC sense after 2 months investigation, that means they will NEVER fix it.

Hopeless.

I think they definitely think it's a feature other than a problem even so many people complains.

Time to move on and buy a new phone from other brands.
[HD2 General] JamesRC:
I don't understand, if they reproduce the lag and jump to last SMS, then surely they acknowledge the problem and will try to fix it?

The latest messaging client has fixed the highlighting of the last message and reduced lag (but not removed it entirely).
[HD2 General] uccoffee:
I m not sure why they said they cannot fix, the tech said it's the design of WM6.5, not HTC sense problem. Maybe this is called a feature request and will not have any priority.

Or you can try to resend my email to them and ask.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=6127603&postcount=134 (the numbering was a bit incorrect)
[HD2 General] qs2010:
the only resolution in my opinion is change to Android!
[HD2 General] ryennn:
is there a fix for this yet? ]:
[HD2 General] uccoffee:
I got a email from HTC today, simply saying that the delay is not a problem....

original:

關於您反映的HTC HD2 簡訊輸入顯示問題，我們測試發現在特定情況下回覆訊息時偶然會出現自動選取回覆的訊息內容，但是經過對系統的運行及程式功能分析並沒有應用程式錯誤出現，不會影響手機的日常使用。

對於您反映的情況，我們會對HTC HD2的簡訊功能架構進行提升，盡力為我們的用戶提供卓越的品質與用戶體驗，並將於下一個版本的ROM Code進行更新。

translate:

Regarding to the HTC HD2 SMS input problem, we have tested and found out in certain scenario during reply, it occasionally auto select the message (which does not really make sense).

After some system & application testing and analysis , we did not find any error. Therefore it will not affect your phone's using experience.

We will upgrade the SMS function of HD2. And update it in the next ROM code.
[HD2 General] Batas:
They say its not a problem, but it is going to be fixed...? I don't try to fix a thing if it's working fine... The way I see it, they don't know or don't care to fix it.
[HD2 General] Neoconair:
Bought my Touch Diamond 2 (wm 6.5 w. Sense 2.5) last week and am experiencing the same ridiculous problem. Because I had 50 sms on my SIM card I noticed the lag almost immediately.

Not only does the thread reload every time but the key response is slower when the thread is longer than 25. Even worse, when editing a contact for whom I have many text messages, the system takes an age to respond (which I imagine is due the to fact that Sense 2.5 links the contact card with the associated text messages). It's as if the system is updating every single SMS with the new contact information.

I sent the email below to HTC UK support. I'll post any response I receive in this thread.

HTC is aware of the substantial lag in the sms messaging app in Sense 2.5 for the Touch Diamond 2 and other WM 6.5 devices. To summarise, if any more than around 20 text messages are received from a single contact the app slows to an almost unusable pace. Editing a contact with many text messages is also horrendous slow (as Sense 2.5 links the contact card with the associated messages).

I should be grateful if you would confirm if a hotfix for this issue is still in development or it HTC has simply abandoned it.

Finally, please DO NOT advise me to switch to 'traditional view'. I should not have to do this, and it also doesn't solve the problem when viewing/replying to an SMS directly from the messaging tab on Sense 2.5
[HD2 General] thegios:
there's a new hotfix which may solve the problem, but still when installing it on some roms it says it's not compatible

and version 1.8 2015/2016 in my opinion is not worth installing cause has problems with mms (and a couple more on my phone: for example it keeps on asking me which network to use each time I send an sms)