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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Panzer Schreck:
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=29104&cat=1787

I was wondering, has any of you fine gentlemen out their used this gadget with the Touch Pro 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] mda71:
This should work the same.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-FM-Transmit...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item27acd25125

I purchased one of these back in June and its still working today. You can listen to your MP3s and answer/make calls. The only problem I have with these is that it doesn't charge the phone. The car adaptor only powers the device.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] citizenatlarge:
And purchased.. Thanks for the cheap link.. If you happen to find another cheap link for one with power passthrough.. well you know.. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] devis:
What if you use the passthrough that came with the TP2? It's got the power in the bottom, and in the side it has 3.5, 2.5 and USB jacks. One could plug the ebay FM on the USB jack.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] davidgee:
I am using Spb shell 3.5. When you short press on a widget on the Today screen you launch the program, when you long press on a widget a menu pops up to allow you to change the settings or remove that widget. As a short press often doesn't register and I need to keep my finger on the screen for longer, I ghet taken into Settings when I actually want the program itself. Is there a fix to disable the long press?
[General Topics] Shasarak:
Like, is it actually going to become a real product? And, if so, when?
[General Topics] galaxys:
Haven't heard diddly on it. PDAdb.net still has a December, 2009 Release Date:confused:
[General Topics] rajivshahi:
Haven't really heard much about Toth but now the spotlight is on LEO... Actually i was one of the TOTH fan but, now the focus is on the LEO.... Can't wait to get my hands on LEO....
[HD2 General] KB24@CL:
since I installed the servicepack, the today button doesn't work anymore...

anybody else having this issue? or is that normal.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
I have min since the very very begining.

No problems at all.

But it seems a lot of people are withnissing buttons not working problems.
[Android Software Development] xmoo:
Does anyone have HTC Sense for WVGA.

I want to install it on a Stock Android 1.6 phone what comes with WVGA.

Can't tell the brand, sry.
[Android Software Development] AdrianK:
Is it an actual phone or Android 1.6 running on other hardware?

1) You can't "push" Sense UI in to android, you simply can't, you need a buid with Sense in it already.

2) There are no sense UI builds for WVGA, only HVGA and QVGA.
[Android Software Development] EGOvoruhk:
You don't know what phone you have? :confused:
[Android Software Development] xmoo:
Yes I do, The phone hasn't released yet and is new.

I'm testing it, and are not allowed to tell what phone it is.

I can say it has 1Ghz snapdragon, 3.5 Inch screen and running Android 1.6 Donut WVGA.

2.0 Will be available as update.
[Android Software Development] aiondennis9000:
xmoo. THIS is what you are testing. No question about it.

Acer Liquid

- runs on Qualcomm QSD 8250 Snapdragon CPU at 768 MHz

- WVGA touchscreen 800x480 pixel.

- Android 1.6 (aka Donut

- quadband GSM/GPRS/EDGE

- triband UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA at either 900/1800/2100 MHz (European version) or 850/1900/2100 MHz (North American version

- WiFi b/g

- Bluetooth 2.0+EDR

- aGPS

- digital compass

- G-sensor

- light sensor.

So now that that is out let's get down to the real bitty shall we. Did you have a go at that Spinlets app? Is it better then Grooveshark?
[Android Software Development] xmoo:
I will not confirm.

What about that app? Were talking about HTC Sense here.
[Android Software Development] aiondennis9000:
How about we trade answers here? Aangezien we allebei in Eindhoven zitten is dat denk ik zo opgelost of niet?
[Android Software Development] xmoo:
I have rules to follow.

eind deze maand mag ik het zeggen aangezien eind dec de release datum is.
[Android Software Development] joners:
No it hasnt been released, the Sense UI relies on an HTC Framework.

Unless HTC release a version to run on WVGA device you are out of luck!

Hope that your enjoying your liquid! - Mine is due for delivery in the next week or so. :)
[Android Software Development] aliff:
Is it possible to find QVGA HTC Sence for Android 1.6/1.5

Can anybody post a link???
[Android Software Development] xmoo:
Just download a ROM with HTC Sence in it, and strip it from the rom.

I got mine test device 3 months now.

Release date is end of december...

Have fun with ur Liquid.
[Android Software Development] mancsoulja:
this guys full of **** lol
[Android Software Development] xmoo:
Talk like that to ur moms, not to a senior member who is active on this website longer than you!
[Android Software Development] mancsoulja:
bequiet you claim to be testing this device (super secret device) witch the only way ud be doing it was working for the company .... and now you want to illegaly pirate a htc product on to this device wich would loose you your job ect lmao ur avin a laff kid
[Android Software Development] xmoo:
Is testing my brother!! has nothing to do with pirate ish.
[HD2 General] techdave:
Hi all,

I've just got my HD2 this morning. I'm having a problem when trying to create an SMS by replying from the text messages tab.

This particular contact has around 500 messages and pressing 'reply' takes more than 20 seconds before even the onscreen keyboard to load for me to type the reply. I've tried other contacts with less messages, whilst it is quick, there is still a noticeable lag to load all of the previous messages.

Is anyone else having this problem?
[HD2 General] Robrecht:
Yes. The contacts/text messaging app seems to suffer from a lot of slowdown. I also have the feeling it's linked to the number of messages for each contact.

Saving a contact after editing can be slow as well.
[HD2 General] techdave:
I did a bit of a search...looks like this is a problem with the HTC messaging app in Manila 2.5 ..... sigh........ such a fundamental problem!
[HD2 General] Fatherboard:
Too many people complain about SMS issues. SMS functionality should be one of the very first tests you do to a modern mobile device during Q.A.

At least its still good to know that I'll be able to speak with it.
[HD2 General] Sim-1:
Same here. Too slow..
[HD2 General] focuswrc2006:
Here the same problem. Can somebody make a fix for it please?
[HD2 General] prank1:
Delete all the SMS history with the contact who is taking long for the keyboard to load up.

The reason for this slowdown is that it is loading all your SMS messages with that contact, both sent and received. Hence it takes ages to load up.

1. Go to the SMS screen for your slow-loading contact, wait for it to load

2. Press 'Menu'

3. Press 'Delete Messages'

4. Press 'Menu'

5. Press 'Select All'

6. Press 'Done'
[HD2 General] hagba:
Where is the snapdragon?

man I need to get this Phone,but this seems to be the first real let down ,I use lots of SMS and to me deleting is not an option.

Must be found a work around.
[HD2 General] prank1:
HTC definately rushed this ROM.

The calendar bug, the spelling mistake in the connections settings, apparently the speed is slower than the test ROMs, and now this.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Well the only thing that lags with Touch HD on wm6.5 with Manila 2.5 is the HTC SMS.. That what made be believe I should upgrade my device to HD2. Now that I see that the device is also lagging with a dozen of SMSs... Thanks but I will not buy it unless a solution is found. I have more than 2500 work SMS all business related and I CANT FIND A REASON TO DELETE IT.

DIDNT THEY TRY THE DEVICE BEFORE SELLING IT??

EVEN A NOKIA 3310 CAN STORE 500+ SMS !!
[HD2 General] loomx:
Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Even with Thread mode off and normal SMS display, it is very slow. Try restoring 200 SMS, it will takes 10 mins. Re-access your SMS menu, you will still lag as hell.

Cannot forgive them for making such a mistake.
[HD2 General] hagba:
was going to get it today

My non HTC device loaded with + 250 messages opens the SMS app.in 2 sec. Replying and bringing up the keyboard is almost from instantaneous to 1 sec,but I need to get a WM phone.

Just one question though:

Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?
[HD2 General] techdave:
I've found a workaround for now..

Use the HTC Messaging app in traditional mode. From there, you could reply SMSes using the non-threaded mode. Once it loads, it's pretty quick to open again.

Still..the major lag is still there when you open a contact with many text messages....this is very dissapointing and could even be a dealbreaker for a few people.

Even my TD1 with Manila 2.1 doesn't have this problem.
[HD2 General] alexleon:
NO! the problem it's just in senseUI
[HD2 General] Fatherboard:
In the meantime, let your providers and htc know (mail). htc need to release a proper fix for this.
[HD2 General] mika34:
Manila 2.1 on my TP2 did`t have this problem at all.

To be honest .... 2.5 Manila messaging is crap!
[HD2 General] Archer:
I know this isn't an ideal solution, but it'll do for me (for now), and I'm sure some others will be happy enough with it as a temporary fix.

Use Microsoft MyPhone to get all your texts uploaded and then archive them using the web interface. You can then delete as many as you like off the phone and still be happy that you've got a backup online.

Not a solution, but a reasonable workround for now.

Edit: I can confirm that this works. I went to the MyPhone web interface and archived all my text messages. Then I synched from my mobile and it deleted all the local texts that I had archived (in this case, all of them). I can now edit and select contacts with only a slight lag. It's still a crap amount of lag for such a fast phone, but it's a lot better.
[HD2 General] Sim-1:
They should do like on the iPhone: when you chat with a contact, you get the last 10-15 messages of the thread. If you want to read older messages you press a button on top of the thread that will then show all the others.
[HD2 General] Roupette:
+1!! I do think too that it's the obvious solution!!!! Why the hello do HTC's SMS apps display the full thread of SMS's on their app, it's pretty much useless, and causes lags!!! The last 10 sms's like in Outlokk or on the iPhone is enough!

I don't know what the hell HTC's devs are thinking sometimes....
[HD2 General] alexd83:
Is there also some lag when you have 20-30 SMS for one contact ?

I usualy keep only 20 SMS max by contact

Thanks
[HD2 General] Noam23:
If you want *zero* SMS lag, install a software called "Vito SMS-chat". Hopefully it will automatically integrate with the SENS UI like it does with Mobile Shell.
[HD2 General] phatair:
Same problem here. i have araound 1600sms and there is a big lag if i try to answer an sms or change to the traditional mode. The traditional mode is slow, too.

I hope HTC will release a fix very soon.
[HD2 General] hagba:
thanks since im not gonna use the Sense a lot any way,

BTW is there a way to remove it completely fron the device?
[HD2 General] y1mrn:
above solution seems to be working for me. remember to install .net first.
[HD2 General] russeini:
am having the same lag problem. got my hd2 only yest and i tried to show off the messaging feature infront of my gf who has an iphone and i was almost embarassed! had a diamond2 b4 and never had this problem! also can't play streaming vids from both opera nd IE. i also could do it on my diamond2 with wm 6.5 and without any 3rd party SW! installed coreplayer on hd2 and that seems to cause occasional freezing! had to uninstall...........this is unacceptable for a phone the whole world was anticipating! i guess it's the underneath crappy wm 6.5. hope htc reads those threads and does something abt them!
[HD2 General] russeini:
one more thing......one more bug.....can't add RSS channels by searching for them! it says search engine not able to bla bla bla..........GREAT!
[HD2 General] Jay_9090:
Pffff!, I am discouraged! :(

Every time there more than likely, is what I am buying this HD2? :confused:

I read Leo news for lot months ago and is getting worse! :cool:

It is a pity to realize that for simple things like SMS, there are still big problems! :eek:

I'm exhausted by HTC! :mad:

I believe that they've no Geeks in their team for testing devices !:(
[HD2 General] umiss:
Anyone found a solution yet?

I am actually considering to sell/make them take the phone back, just because of their really bad optimization >_<

1 ghz processor kan barely load 50 sms's without lagging, pathetic!
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Actually I'm psychopathic at the moment. I can't bear it anymore. Cracking voice calls and distortion and what now? I have 130 SMS, I can't even list them, I need more a min to read them and if I want to go back to the list that's another 1 min !!:mad:

I contacted HTC for the first time and here's their reply.

Inquiry Information

Inquiry Type Technical Support

Inquiry Description Dear HTC Support, I have bought a HTC HD2 mobile phone few days ago. I am pleased with the device in general but found a quite annoying problem which is preventing me from completely relying on the device. I work for a giant telecommunication company and have hundreds of business SMS; Once the number of stored messages is > 30, the HTC Messaging application becomes very slow and sluggish unlike my old HTC HD. I need dozens of seconds to wait before being able to list and read a few days old SMS. I can simply not use the device if such a primary task cannot be completed smoothly (thread mode is disabled). Any advise or help would be highly appreciated. Best Regards, xxx xxx xx.xxx@nsn.cm

And their reply..

Thank you for contacting HTC Corporation Middle East Support,

On behalf of HTC cooperation we would like to apology for the inconvenience.

Our customer care department has been instructed to investigate this issue immediately, and we would contact you back by phone within 48 Business hours.

Gratefully your letter was brought to our attention and appreciating your perseverance in settling out this matter.

Please note that you could also contact us by phone.

Thank you for choosing HTC the PDA maker to the world

HTC Corporation Support Team

Sincerely,

============================================

I mean come on... Was I the first one complaining? OR DO I NEED TO SEND THEM MAILS FROM A CORPORATE DOMAIN SO THEY MOVE THEIR ASSES

This issue was clear on HD with WM6.5 but we all thought that it was due to the slow processor the HD got compared to the Snapdragon.. HTC should spend more time on SW testing and verification...:mad:
[HD2 General] sunking101:
Um, no. It's far too loud lol. So that's basic functionality out of the window then (texting and calling).
[HD2 General] Fatherboard:
Don't kid yourself, Xeon. they just gave you an answer straight from their "panicked user" procedures. I bet they receive similar mails every few minutes.

in order to get this issue prioritized within htc's Q.A department, people who experience this issue must mail them.
[HD2 General] sunking101:
Hey you guys, I think you need to start deleting some messages lol. Whether you think the HD2 should be able to deal with that many or not, how do you cope with all the clutter?
[HD2 General] Xeon:
Actually I am backing up and deleting.. backing up and deleting...

You know what.. 2 more weeks. If they don't manage to solve the voice call and sms issue ( the 2 things the cellular phone was born for:confused: ) I am selling this junk. The device is already too big, I can't carry an additional handset. I don't care if the camera is good or not, I just need the basic features any mobile phone has...
[HD2 General] umiss:
I would like to know how they followed this up if you wouldn't mind sharing!
[HD2 General] Xeon:
I still haven't received any update since :confused:
[HD2 General] umiss:
K, I'll patiently wait ^^
[HD2 General] NSider:
Until HTC fixes this issue (and the other issue: HTC Messaging reverses Arabic messages), I'm using Zenyee's Disable HTC Messaging (requires NETCFv3.5).

It's not perfect; clicking on the actual message gets you a blank HTC Messaging screen that disappears quickly. But if you click on the All Messages button, it will get you to the old but trusty Outlook SMS view. No bugs, no slowdown. :)
[HD2 General] bankian:
I just installed Zenyees's fix and it's working perfectly for me - Clicking on an existing sms from the Manilla interface takes me to the message in the old messaging SMS view. Clicking on the New button takes you to a new message in the trusty old application.

This is exactly what I'd want even if HTC fixed their own SMS application as I actually think Microsoft's one is pretty good.

So if you're having SMS sending problems, stop complaining (apart from to HTC!), install the CAB and get on with the rest of your life - it's a fantastic phone and this work around will get you going perfectly well 'til HTC get their act together with a new version.
[HD2 General] sunking101:
No MMS though with this option?
[HD2 General] awtchan:
Another option worth considering is to update to ROM 21869.5.0.82 from XDA's Leo Official ROMs page. It works fine for me.
[HD2 General] umiss:
And this rom actually fixes the lag and everything?
[HD2 General] RotteRotte:
I hate the slow SMS reply thingy :(:( I don't know if I can live with this. It seems like it has to load the whole SMS conversation before the keyboard pops up. You can clearly see the scrollbar at the right side getting smaller and smeller. And when it's at its smallest, the keyboard finally popups and you can start writing.
[HD2 General] shu8i:
so, did they call you?

i sent an email to the DACH support too. they said there is already updates being worked on.
[HD2 General] Enonoid:
I did the same, we all got the same issues.

Today i posted the question.

But i did read something here,, about the NEW update (1.48) ??

Who said that would help ??

Anyway im downloading the new ROM and the update for the camera.
[HD2 General] padlad:
One way to overcome the delay until the fix comes out, is as soon as you open the conversation, click 'send' and a warning window pops up asking if you want to send a blank text, select 'no' and there you have the whole conversation loaded instantly.
[HD2 General] umiss:
Holy crap it actually works xD

How sad programming by HTC :P
[HD2 General] RotteRotte:
Damn! That's amazing. Haha, thank for the tip mate! It's actually is a relief that it's that easily solved. This means if actually fixable from HTCs side. I guess we'll have to wait for a new ROM.

I've contacted HTC regarding this issue and I got this, positive, reply:
[HD2 General] RikfromBelgium:
I have to say, a lot of *****in' about nothin'. Seriously, do you guys need to keep every sms? It's just an sms. My iPhone 3G got A LOT slower when I had a lot of sms's with a contact. It opened really really slowly. It was actually one of the biggest things that bothered me on the 3G. The HD2 text app is a million times better.
[HD2 General] Karlos G:
It's not *****ing about nothing mate it's a pain! Why should we have to delete every SMS so that we dont have lag?? Or vet our SMS's and only keep the important ones?? A lot of unnecessary ball ache IMO!
[HD2 General] RotteRotte:
Strange reply. If it's possible to remove the lag and it's obvious that HTC screwed up, we just have to accept it? If the system is made for SMS/e-mail, it sure should handle it properly. Or else they could have dropped the whole SMS feature.

Not everyone wishes to keep their SMS's, but what about those who want it? This is not a problem on any other device, therefore it's not questionable.
[HD2 General] padlad:
Today i tried an older version of the HTC Messaging app (v 1.0) on my HD2 and it had no lag when opening up the conversation with many messages in, i was able to type out a reply while the conversation was loading. Only problem with it was some MMS problems, i could send them no problem but when receiving them they came from 'no contact' and was unable to download them.
[HD2 General] bzdemes:
Just started feeling this problem now. Like 4 days of use and messaging is starting to get annoyingly slow :(

Hope the fix is done fast cause this is a little embarrassing lol
[HD2 General] Xeon:
The fix is already release on HTC website. Please report back.
[HD2 General] tsttse:
the fix didn't fix the slow sms loading for me... (i never had the sms staying in outbox problem, so i can't comment on that part)
[HD2 General] uccoffee:
i report it to HTC via email , the reply is "DELETE THE SMS" or use "All message" ...

not helping at all, can you guys report to HTC as well? we need to bug them more often.

I have been sending email and complain / tell them about problems for 5 days already... cant think of anything to complain today ... is that bad?
[HD2 General] greeny12m:
Was that the new HTC fix that didnt work?

the slowness is really beginning to bug me now.
[HD2 General] ali1984:
the fix is for the SMS send Problem , many people have no send sms...

not for LAG problem...
[HD2 General] umiss:
Just installed the newly released fix from HTC's site and it DOES NOT fix the lagging issue.
[HD2 General] Funk2641:
uh, it wasn't supposed to. It was to fix the non-sending issue.
[HD2 General] Archer:
Where do you get that from?
[HD2 General] Funk2641:
It makes the most sense. The bigger problem is to fix the inability to receive or send sms messages, not to fix the waiting of them to load. I'm not saying HTC won't fix it (they need to) but the "no text at all" is probably what this hotfix is.
[HD2 General] Xeon:
This update for HTC HD2 messaging lets you reach out to your friends and family with instant notifications. Keeping in touch has always been very important, and this update delivers just that:

fast and reliable SMS messaging.

What do they mean by FAST and RELIABLE? I thought they were talking about the software.

It's up to the SMSC to decide who fast the SMS can be delivered anyway..

What's funny is that HTC from the Hotfix description always acts like if nothing is wrong with the device, only making what's already good, better..

I would have expected something like: HTC HD2 messaging allows you to send SMS to your friends without the need to reboot your device..
[HD2 General] Funk2641:
I think you misunderstand, fast and reliable doesn't necessarily mean they're going to fix the loading issue -- I bet more than anything this is for the sms "not sending" bug, which is a far greater problem.

And that's PR-speak anyway; please tell me you don't actually believe all that.
[HD2 General] umiss:
Reliable obviously implies the not sending issue.

Fast on the other hand surely should imply fixing the lag, but obviously this wasn't the case this time. Let's hope the next sms-update arrives soon.
[HD2 General] mox123:
ive spoken to htc, they have told me that this hotfix IS ONLY FOR sms not sending/stuck in outbox
[HD2 General] Mad Jock:
Well so far for me the new patch has made things worse. Messages are still not being sent and now the HTC messaging client thingy has crashed on me.

How do I go about removing the new patch please guys? :(
[HD2 General] padlad:
Its in remove programs
[HD2 General] Overstear:
The one called leo07567.
[HD2 General] julianfx:
hey guys, I resolved in this way: send message button, cancel, and then everything worked! For me worked... :-) Try it ...
[HD2 General] julianfx:
I add, I can scroll through the message :D
[HD2 General] dagrim1:
That workaround seems to work here fine as well, but still.

Could it be something with the bad graphics driver? When loading the smses perhaps the screen has to be updated so much that it boggles down the system. When you press send/cancel the updating is done in the background so the impact isn't as high?

Just a thought, could be complete nonsense of course (I have the improved graphics driver mod installed btw)
[HD2 General] padlad:
I've disabled sense ui for now until HTC come up with a fix and installed SPBMobile shell 3.5.2, HTC messaging works good like this. The sense ui is more trouble than its worth at the moment!