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[Touch HD Android Development] Zommy:
Sorry for not mentioning it in my post i've got a DIAM100 so the storage is internal :)
[Touch HD Android Development] kieboy:
Nothing mentioned in the Diamond section? this is blackstone for a reason...sorry.

For all those having problems with the wake up, I've been getting a lot of PM how to do my 2-3 sec wake up method. I have already told it to Mitikos and let him post it since its not a guaranteed method but it worked for me, so if you all want to try then do this:

Turn off Manila or Titanium if you currently have this loaded (just have nothing checked in the Today -> items)

Then do the following:

Plug your usb cable to your phone and have it charged then turn BT on. Run Haret.

Again, its not 100% guaranteed to work on your device, so far it works like a charm for me. To wake up device just tap the Home key, if it doesn't wake on the first attempt, usually in 3rd or 4th presses will.
[Touch HD Android Development] mcdull:
This is not the point. This build is designed for Haret and that's why it runs on haret. It is just not mature and safe enough to be ported to ROM.
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
okay tried so far.

- disabled all today plugins

- connected my HD to usb cable for charging purposes

- activated bluetooth

- started haret

i thought it works, but after a few sleeps, the same procedure: my HD isn't wakeup properly. have to press it definitely more than 3 or 4 times. feels up to 100 times to press the home button :(

which version of kernel are you using?
[Touch HD Android Development] mcdull:
One may also try, as told in the wiki, bluetooth prevent the system to go into deep sleep. From my experience, if you enable bluetooth, you can get the system wake pretty quick. Just enable it in android using widget.

Please report if it works.
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
tried this also at my HD. it seemed working. but after a few put to sleep mode key presses, it behaves as usual, even if bluetooth is activated. BUT i have to admit, the chance of getting the device waking up is pretty higher. but as i wrote: it's not the solution, some deep sleeps will be performed although bt has been activated.
[Touch HD Android Development] mcdull:
Yes, sometimes you need 1 min to wake the machine. But without Bluetooth, you may never wake the device. IMO, this is not a good way as it drain more battery. but certainly you get better response when you got incoming call.

Anyway, put it in widget is easier. No need to set anything in winmo.
[Touch HD Android Development] Fallen Spartan:
Thread has been stickied
[Touch HD Android Development] mcdull:
Nice... I just searched for the thread for few minutes without knowing it being stickied.. Good news.
[Touch HD Android Development] Duncank:
Guys, a new zImage is available at http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/. (Wed Nov 25 21:43:43 2009)
[Touch HD Android Development] townkat:
yup, but no no changes for blac in this update
[Touch HD Android Development] Duncank:
How do you know that? I don't see a changelog or something like that on that site. Am I looking wrong?
[Touch HD Android Development] townkat:
i asked phhusson, but there is also a changelog on that site, scroll down to the table
[Touch HD Android Development] Duncank:
you were right! I've found it now:) Didn't see that part of the page.

but when there are no mentioned updates for our blackstones, couldn't it be some minor things are better? that it runs a bit smoother or something like that? or are the zImage and modules files internally divided in different parts for blackstone, raphael ed?
[Touch HD Android Development] townkat:
yes they may, but thats why i asked him ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] kieboy:
Heres a note for the BLAC100: WiFi ok, no heat up on the bottom ¡¡¡ but some unestable using system (bluetooth,...)
[Touch HD Android Development] crystal_clear:
tried that...

downloads a file, then i try and put it on the sd, it goes to sd.

trying to open or do anything with it, is where the fun begins...
[Touch HD Android Development] townkat:
very good, i was lazy to test it so i asked first, but you are free to test it, i am really curious if that is true for you too (the no heat fix)
[Touch HD Android Development] Bl@ck:
anyone have a link for the latest android build posted by phh? i'm still using the old one from 15/11 (not the kernel, i'm talking about the os)
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
here we go my friend: build-update-donut 1.6 2009-11-22
[Touch HD Android Development] mitikos:
I stick this to the first post

Edit: uhm is not a full release, so i correct the first post to the last full release, better to wait to have a new full version for normal users.
[Touch HD Android Development] greatbal:
Anybody knows hwo to change the font size permanently? i tried Spare Parts>Font Size but it's temporary. as in when I navigate away from the Spare Parts window, the font reverts back to "Normal" size.

Or is there another way to change the font size via config perhaps?
[Touch HD Android Development] sakkeus11:
Howto boot debian in blackstone?

I already asked this question in blackstone rom develonping tree but no results so i try here.

I have a couple day try figure out how to install debian in the blackstone, but

no good results.I know there is a wiki how to android and linux to blackstone but it was too hard understund so if you can easily expalin how to do it...please it is welcome.(like android is very easy..just put few files in storage card and boot with haret)
[Touch HD Android Development] Bl@ck:
thanks mate
[Touch HD Android Development] onesolo:
if this is an update, what is the procedure to update it on sdcard? Just unzip it to the sdcard ?

Anything else?
[Touch HD Android Development] munemune:
did every body know that? the screen backlight in sleep mode is still lighting then
[Touch HD Android Development] djharty:
That's a problem at this time and it's very battery consuming with the backlight active :(
[Touch HD Android Development] auss81:
Thanks, we know this from the beginning ;)

The best thing to upgrade is to delete the old files from sdcard and put in the latest ones

:)
[Touch HD Android Development] frank.white1975:
Whar's new in the last release?
[Touch HD Android Development] Roadrunner100:
Thanks, I noted this the first time you explained this, however I thought I should mention it since TouchFlo is active on my device before booting Haret. So, 3D is enabled...

I am getting some excellent results with latest zImage package (Wed Nov 25 21:43:43 2009 +0100), before fully reporting I have one fundamental question:

Each zImage package also contains a file - Modules******.tar.gz

The instructions are a bit ambiguous - this file contains some *.ko files.

Should this

specific

file archive also be unpacked?

Should the *.ko files be unpacked and placed in SDcard root directory?

Thanks
[Touch HD Android Development] LukeH:
With last update 22.11 I think My HD is little faster but I have bigger problem to wake up and unlock the screen.

My SD card was not formated before start Android, but I hope that isn´t problem.

Android explorer can´t open any folder.

Did enybody know why I have with Adnroid two diferent mac adress when I can connect with wifi?
[Touch HD Android Development] Duncank:
What always is told with a new zImage package, is that we should extract the package so we get two files, the zImage.xxxxxx which we should rename to "zImage" without extension, and the modules****.tar.gz file, which should go right onto the storage card the way we found it. No need for extracting the file, I think Haret does that itself while booting.

I don't know if it's better/good if we extract it, or if it even works that way, but I know it works know, so maybe better leave it this way:D
[Touch HD Android Development] blastman:
hey guys,

This is the first time I've used android and I'm loving it :)

the real bug I've found that when i open android market (and a few other apps) I hit the search bar to seach for whatever, I get the keyboard up and then the app closes.

A part from that all is super-sweet.

loving your work, so keep it up!!

Blastman
[Touch HD Android Development] kingofslide54:
Hi men, good news!

Wep-protected wifi is now working with the last zimage!

Some more reports:

-It seems that, if you disable 3g on winmo, it's also disabled on android. I don't know if you already knew, but I thing it has not been commented here.

-Btw, 3g logo appears for me, but movistar spain data is still not working... and it did with the caveman-age distros!

-With the last zimage, it takes a looong time to enable and disable airplane mode, and sometimes it NEVER does and phone hangs.
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
Well, Captnoord was working on fixing it on raphael, I don't know if he did/will do. Anyway I'll take a look tomorrow. Also please check wether it did work for releases before the new mem layout.

This archive shouldn't be extracted at all. The extracting part is done by rootfs, and it's not extracted in the sdcard.

Hu ? I changed nothing about wifi for more than one week /o\

I'm pretty sure it was just the usual problems with dhcp and android love.

It works fine here... Maybe it disables it somewhere else than for me. I might try to see that. Also how do you disable it ?

Well, I'm pretty sure you're doing it wrong. But if you're sure of what you're doing, please provide adb logcat and adb logcat -b radio results.

I don't really care about airplane mode as it's not needed for daily use. But well I know this bug.

Are you using my last build ? This bug should have been fixed in 22nd november release, and it actually fixed it for me (my phone heated a lot after that ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] brumbrum:
Tryed out this build of android now.

Worked good in 3½ minutes, then it froze.

Had to remove the battery...

Retryed, same as last time, freeze, battery-removal and boot again.

Cant find out why...

No, I dont mean that the phone goes into sleep, because it is happening during usage.

Anyone know what is wrong?

Using PhamQuang V78.

HardSPL.

radio 1.17...

Maybe the answer is in the thread and I have missed it. Please direct me to the correct page if so. thanks!
[Touch HD Android Development] blastman:
I sure am.

granted I wasn't when i posted but i had already upgraded byt the time you replied :)

I still get this issue, however it does happen a lot less. I've alos noticed that if i wait till the market ahs fully openned (downloaded lists) and then hit the home button and search i get a better rate of sucess.

Still, I love the work thats been done. fair play. :)

edit; a quick question...

How offen does the zimage get upgraded?? I only ask so I can check back to make sure I'm on the latest version. I don't want to get left behind now I've been bitten by the android bug!!
[Touch HD Android Development] superfuffo:
Looking better and better...

The latest release (25 Nov) works better than previous for me. No more problems getting the phone out of sleep (but I've just begun playing with it).

One problem common with all releases is bluetooth hands free opertation. While I can pair my earphone, I cannot head anything from it, and the other party cannot hear me as well. If I switch to loudspeaker the audio works. I've searched the thread but did not find a bug report on that, so I though I do it...:p

Other that that great release... I will try A2DP later today (I worked in first release, but hung my blackston with the 20th release).

Thanks for the effort guys.. we all appreciate it... and great FAQ on first page.. I had a blast reading it.. hehehee
[Touch HD Android Development] kingofslide54:
I don't know why it happened, but wep was supposed not to work (and didn't work fo me) and now it does. I'm sorry I cannot provide more info.

I don't use to disable it. But yesterday I noticed it was disabled in winmo, I enabled it via commanager and it worked again in android too the next time I booted it (well, it did NOT work, but the logo appeared again (before there was only the 'g' logo))

Maybe I am. However, I got it working in pre-tux releases and tried the same, and lots of different things in the latests releases, with no success. I'll try to provide that logs now.

I use it to try connecting to data when I change something in the APN.
[Touch HD Android Development] bobsbbq:
I don't know if it is the right time to ask but since this project is getting closer to a usable OS. Could someone please start a newbie how to thread. A step by step how to setup on the device and configure data connections etc. And other general use for windows convert users.
[Touch HD Android Development] mitikos:
My touchscreen got broken.

Dont worry is not android related.

But i cant test or do anything at the moment, so i gave my user id and password to phh, so he can update this thread.

I hope i can be back soon with my hd working...

:(

Bye guys
[Touch HD Android Development] sakkeus11:
okay i still waiting if there is anyone who would little help me????????????
[Touch HD Android Development] sakkeus11:
do you have warranty?:( (i mean do we still hear you?)
[Touch HD Android Development] Jossie90:
I don't think a broken screen is covered by warranty :-).

I broke mine as well some time ago. it fell ~20 meters and after a new LCD it worked fine again.
[Touch HD Android Development] Syc:
I love this project, and I've had no unusual problems until now;

I've gotten the "Waiting for SD-card" problem.

The SD-card is exactly the same as it was when i bought my blackstone, and I haven't had any problems with Android until now. I'm not sure if it's the new zimage (the one released 2 hours ago) or the rom i flashed today (Miri 6.5 manila 2.1). Either way, it's the first time I've heard that the SD-rom suddenly have become "incompatible" without any changes to the filesystem or anything.

Just thought I'd let you know that the new zimage may bring some new problems regarding SD-card compatibility.

Oh, and i can't thank you enough for the time and effort you've put into this. You're a prime example of what communities can achieve.
[Touch HD Android Development] miniterror:
also had the problem off the usable sdcard that went unusable

solved it whit reformatting the card again;)
[Touch HD Android Development] Roadrunner100:
Thanks. Using a process of elimination, going back to last Tux kernel version, I suspect that this issue as well as the application resize (full screen) issue are at the zImage level. I've used a variety of "doughnuts" and packages, mixing them around and have found that as long as I was using Tux's last zImage, it would work. At some point, his Kernel would not boot with your recent Android 1.6 "doughnut" versions.

Anything else you feel I should check?

Thanks for clearing that up.

Regarding

Wed Nov 25 21:43:43 2009 +0100

build:

* Overall OS reaction time noticeably improved.

* Wifi does not disconnect as readily as in previous build. When it does disconnect, a simple off then on again (using Power widget) will in most cases quickly reconnect. Again, a noticeable improvement.

* Mains charging works well, and does recharge battery to 100%. At this point I'm not sure whether it carries on recharging or Stops (as it does in WM). In WM reaching 100% charge, the Power LED turns from Orange to Green indicating that recharge is complete.

* Sleep mode still does not turn display off fully (as you already know), as a consequence, while in sleep mode battery lost over 30% of charge in one hour.

* Overheating of device is mostly reduced, with Android reporting battery temperature at around 25 Deg C. Previously this would be at around 30 - 35 Deg C. So again, a noticeable improvement.

* Youtube application connects nicely with sound only. No picture. I suspect that this is again due to the drivers not being loaded at Android boot.

Thanks, and good luck with your exams.
[Touch HD Android Development] Syc:
Yeah that did it.. Weird though..

EDIT: Uhmm.. What's up with the 700+ files that android creates on the SD-card after a failed launch? Some of them are 4-5mb, while others is 32KB..

(not in a folder, all files is on root, pretty annoying)
[Touch HD Android Development] mcdull:
Can someone please tell the importance of "calibration" file?

does it related to the functionality of wifi?
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
These files are the lost files: It check the filesystem at every start, and when some files lost their names, they go in the fsckXXXXX.rec files.
[Touch HD Android Development] Pzander:
Same problem

Hi Ingmar!

I have the exact same problem.

Have you heard anything about a solution to the problem?

/Patrik
[Touch HD Android Development] Kafro:
Using latest build, still can't send sms.
[Touch HD Android Development] Zailynne:
Hi! This is my first post on xda, so I hope it's a good one... :p

First of all, I'd like to say thank you for doing this project. I love it.

But I have a small problem like Kafro. I can't send sms... I've tried to follow the to do as it says on the first poster, but it doesn't work. Maybe I'm doing something wrong... :confused:

And another thing is the Android File Explorer, nothing happens when I click on folders and stuff there.

Thanks again!
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
Latest build from 2009-11-29 is working just fine now. Very good enhancements:

1. Wifi working fine for me (WPA 2 i think at work)

2. Wifi is still active even after coming from sleep mode

3. WOW -> Sleep mode is now going fine for me, means: if i touch the home button at my HD the system is coming out from sleep in a few seconds, if sleep was lasting very long. 1 touch and it's coming from sleep. WELL done. we're getting closer to a non-beta release i think!

Testing nothing more till now, have to work ;) BUT ... RESPECT!!!!

Some questions:

1. How to close active applications? When i press the POWER button of my hd for a couple of seconds, i get the screen of running apps. But HOW to close them?!:confused:

2. I have no data flatrate. But if Wifi is deactivated, i came up the following:Android sends/receives mass of data through the data connection (if enabled i think). More than 4 MB per minute (as my provider stated). How to disable this? Is it ok, if i deactivate background data?

Thanks in advance and again: RESPECT to the team!
[Touch HD Android Development] zakariae:
hi,

link to latest build please?:D

thanks.
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
All latest builds...

here we go ... BUT check the first post ... there, it's listed already. perhaps, mit/phhu should update the first post perhaps ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] JbDam:
Newbie

Hey guys. :)

I'm totally new to the Android world (but know a few guys who has the Magic and therefor wanted to try it out).

Is there a place with some tour guides? Fx to turn the phone completely of in Android, killing apps and so on? I'm specially interested in a way to get my contacts from WinMo to work on the Android as well!?

Another thing is that I can't get the WiFi to work.

Am running the 11/29/09 21:30 modules and zImage, 10/25/09 23:38 roots and 11/22/09 12:36 system.
[Touch HD Android Development] vdude_1:
Look in the market for an app called toggle data. Once you've installed it, you can add it as a widget to the main screen so you can turn it on and off at will.
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
thx dude installed it and i hope it's working ...

but about how to close applications ... any suggestion?
[Touch HD Android Development] DaniLoveSky:
kniffo80,

I think that is the list of recently open applications, they do not have to be running.

From my observations if I "leave" the application using back button "<-" the application closes. If I run it again it is in "fresh" state, not the way I left it (e.g. Terminal emulator screen is clean and does not have the output of previously executed commands).

On the other hand if I leave the app using power button (jumps directly to home screen) then the next time I run app it is in the old state (did not exit).
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
aye thanks dani. i hope so ;) would be great if someone may acknowledge that statement ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] vdude_1:
I'm pretty sure they're closed. The list that comes up is recently used applications, not ones currently open.
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
okay ... sorry for my distrust. and thanx for the information dude!
[Touch HD Android Development] Don_Diego:
You can search and install Appkiller from the market, so you can see exactly wich app is still running.

I confirm that the list you see is the recently used app.

Sorry for my english, thanx a lot to the developpers, this is my first post here, but i follow this thread, and the previous one from tuxhero from the beginning, and all the work you already did is amazing guys !
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
i use advanced task killer now. and it seems truly, there are running a number of apps in the background!
[Touch HD Android Development] samsanchez88:
Yeah, that's true, my gf has got a magic and she downloaded task panel (wich works very well) and found out that there are always apps running in background unless you kill them with one of these programs, and when there are alot of apps running it really slows android down!
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
yip. it's true. it seems, nearly every application, that ships with the android system runs in background, i tested it with: browser, market, email, sms/mms, google maps!
[Touch HD Android Development] vdude_1:
You might not care for it, but at least you have the option to run programs in the background ;)
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
yep. *shows the middle finger to the iphone users*
[Touch HD Android Development] samsanchez88:
It would seem that WinMo shows the middle finger to both iphone and android :eek::eek::eek: The system in winmo where you choose to close or run in background beats all!!!!
[Touch HD Android Development] patp:
WinMo's not really any better - when resources start to run out, it will close your apps as it sees fit. And default behaviour is always to run in background, it's only with 3rd party task managers that you can choose what the close button does. What would annoy me in Android is if Google apps are impossible to close and are started automatically. That would suck and be in Google terms, "evil".
[Touch HD Android Development] samsanchez88:
I thought that the "press X button to close app" option was part of windows and not a 3rd part task manager; i stand corrected....

Well then, it seems then android has equalled winmo..
[Touch HD Android Development] bobik91:
can somebody update the link at the first ppage?

new build, new kernel asw.

thx
[Touch HD Android Development] kieboy:
this is irrelevant to having the android run on our HD or about the testing...I just want to know who is that boxed (wooden? or carton) toon in the screenshots on the first page...looking for more wallpapers of it but dont know how to search for it. thanks in advance :p
[Touch HD Android Development] aavan:
I don't know (These are the screenshots of my device)

That wallpaper was in one old android build I've tested (way before tux)

I can post that one, if you want, but I don't have more than that.
[Touch HD Android Development] k-zik:
the last zImage of sunday 29,works really fine,the phone is more stable and too fast to wake up,due to the remaping of the power button as the wake up button.

Wifi works in some cases,we're near to have a complete android OS in our HD Soon.

you can download the zimages from here:

Zimage
[Touch HD Android Development] mouzetc:
Can someone upload the 12-11-09.z7 file to a diff site? (The one from 68.4Mb).

Dunno if the download is broken, but my download s keep getting stuck after a while. Tried diff browsers and PC's :F