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[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gunner22:
Thank you caliban2, finally someone else is acknowledging that this rom works SOD free without having to disable this and that.

I am still using 1.1.2 and if needed I could upload it if necessary (never done this before so might need some instruction) that is if Mr Rusch and WildChild agree. I would do that as I noted some posts ago that someone put on 1.3 and had a SOD and I'm not rushing to put 1.3 on as the reponse to 1.3 in it's thread is not overwhelming.

Yet I continue to use 1.1.2 thoroughly satisfied and SOD free, would love to see them create a Manila 2.5 rom.

I believe the absolute must do is to load the latest radio from the latest stock rom for your area (has already been noted by others) but for a proper trial of this rom Caliban2 and others, leave your customisations, reg changes etc until your convinced it's as SOD free as I am (say at least a week and charging it everynight with a wakeup alarm in the morning to pass the most basic of tests).

All I have on mine is coreplayer and total commander the rest is stock as I'm not prepared to compromise the stability and reliability I have.

Cheers,

Gunner22.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
@gunner22:

if it really IS sod-free remains to be seen yet... ;)

i'm satisfied with 1.3, it's really one of the best ever. fit for business-use, if... sod...

holding back on apps/tweaks:

i'll do if i have to, but you can't call a rom stable as long as you can't install apps made for 6.5/6.1.

personally i can live without 2.5, but it would be interesting to see this rom with one of the latest win-builds instead! (in regard of SoD)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darthmelk:
I also installed all the **** in the world (hacks, icons, themes, backgrouns, autolock, X2 panel manager, loads of apps) over Untamed and so far it's flawless after almost two months.

I know it's offtopic, but do any of you use G-Alarm in Untamed and have a very poor battery life (1 day)? This is the only problem I found. Without G-Alarm i have almost 3 days with moderate use.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gunner22:
I did use Galarm with Untamed and like you found battery life was ridiculously short also I have seen posts saying the same throughout XDA.

I'm glad to hear that you have been able t put all that stuff on and still keep it stable, what autolock do you use is it S2U2?

Are you using 1.3 or 1.1.2?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
so sad ...my X1 only capable of wm6.1? come on guys, this thread even would not exist if there is no wm6.5 lol ;)

EDIT; refer to my sig, 3 consecutive AC charging w/o SoD w/ sense2.5 on ...yet it is stable and fast (no blaze - still huge files in \windows dir being a full rom).
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
3 days and nights SoD-free with Untamed 1.3 - yay! :)

If I'm not mistaken there was only one person claiming he had a SoD with 1.3, so one should take into account that it could have been a freeze caused by some program or reg-hack etc...?

@battery:

I lose about 50% the first day running G-Alarm, WiFi during half the day @Office, push-mail, hourly imap, ~1h surfing and music. Phone not so much these days. (My girlfriend moved in, so I'm back to "normal", short phone conversations... :p )

So you guys are saying that could be more without G-Alarm? I always thought it's the wear-level of my battery... :D

Sure it is related to winmo 6.5. :) It all started with it. Question is: Are ALL versions of 6.5 affected or not? Did MrRusch/WildChild something special? The same goes for Agent47 in your case. (sadly his roms were always too customized for my taste)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gunner22:
Good to hear your having success, the info re: Galarm using up your battery is correct as I proved a while ago to myself.

One day the phone was fully charged and I didn't use it and it lost 50% and a couple of days after with galarm uninstalled and a full battery it lasted 3 days without use and was still at 60%. Try it yourself!!

Cheers,

Gunner22

@ Darthmelk I have tried a tweak (Background4all tabs) makes phone look a lot better and will see if anything goes wrong. I got the version for Manila 2.1 with weather animations so it should be compatable.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
OT:

have you tried disabling "midnight wakeup"? what i've read at ageye's forum this cures the battery drain. although all users complaining about this speek of complete draining the battery over night, some "just" of at least 50% in 6 hrs. i'm definitely not experiencing this with g-alarm.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
well ...i think the "Solutions to charging and standby freeze?" has been solved now? Everyone is knowing each answer ....;) Not necessarily true but satisfying i would say.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
"solved"?! :p

seriously, in my case just saying "the only custom rom i can use without getting SoD is untamed 1.3. i don't know why, but maybe i got lucky and that's the way the cookie crumbles..." - that's it?! :D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darthmelk:
@Gunner22 - I also have a Background For All Tabs hack installed and there's no problem. I guess it only modifies some pictures in the system. For autolock I use SmartLock 2.0A set to bring the standard WP6.5 lock screen whenever I press the power button to go to standby (or the phone enters standby by itself). The Untamed version is 1.1.2, I was too lazy to install everything again so I didn't flash 1.3.

@caliban2 - Battery is really good since I uninstalled G-Alarm. Today, after 4 days, it's at 30%. But it's true I didn't use the phone much. Midnight wakeup didn't help me at all. I tried to speak with ageye, but he insists that G-Alarm doesn't run in background and there's nothing he can do. Yeah, right...

@deepthroat - The only way this could be solved is if MrRusch and WildChild start talking to ohter chefs to see what the difference between their ROMs is.

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Some good news, soon MrRusch will be releasing a Sense 2.5 ROM with WP6.5. Maybe we're lucky and he cooks another SoD-free ROM like Untamed. :D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
I dont know what you're talking about guys ...before you started to say other cookers are not good. You want to go that way, go ahead, but do appreciate anyone picking up their own favorite rom no matter how worse SoD they had. That is it.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
eh?! :confused:

where exactly are you going with this post?!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Howshall:
Soo far soo good with Oobly's Medium 2.3 with Rhodium dialer

Just a quick post to let you know that my experience with going 'retro' on WM6.1 with Oobly's Medium 2.3 with Rhodium Dialer has soo far been extremely positive and no crashes or SoD's over 2 nights on mains charge and pretty heavy usage during the days.

Check out my full update over on Oobly's ROM thread but will make sure to post updates on this thread after either extended positive testing or if/when I do get a proper SoD.

With all the work that Oobly's done in integrating all the recent HTC and finger friendly additions I really don't see many downsides to running WM6.1 (a statement I'm reasonably shocked to make!) and speed and stability seems very good so far.

The only thing I'm missing from this ROM is landscape support in Manila 2.5, but I'm happy to wait and see if that might be a new major feature of Oobly's next ROM when he's ready to release that.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepthroat:
any where other than wm6.1 :)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gunner22:
Hell yeah!! 6.5 Leo 2.5 Manilla with no SOD, FTW!!!! Lets hope.

I'd encourage Untamed users to help the boys with a donation to inspire them to greater heights.

Cheers,

Gunner22
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
hehe... at least this seems possible again. ^^

now let's hope for 6.5.3 or 6.6 or whatever they're calling it now. sense2.5 would be nice, but i think it will never run smoothless on our x1... :( (messaging-lag, made for 1ghz-cpu)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonski89:
SOD Solution

Hi guys, i just read about the solution for this problem last night... here is the link... check it out. I personally havent tried this solution since i went back to WM6.1 sense 2.1 Touch X NUTS. i havent experienced this SOD since but i tried the solution as well so dont know if it works. so if anyone can confirm, please reply.

http://www.techparaiso.com/device-not-waking-up-from-sleep-on-windows-mobile-phone-device/
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vidvandre:
I'd say this [the linked article] concerns a different issue. From my experience with the freezes, I haven't once suspected "Auto Adjust Backlight" (as the article discusses) to be the cause or have any effect on when/if it happens.

AFAIK "the freeze" (as discussed in this thread) is an issue only affecting Xperia X1's, while the "Power Application" (as discussed in the article) is a more general problem with newer Windows Mobile builds that affects several different devices.

As a follow-up to what I wrote earlier this thread; FWIW (which is quite a lot to me), I still haven't experienced a single "Standby-To-Freeze" with my X1 since I upgraded the radio to version 1.16.xx (*knocks on wood*)....
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yptan62:
I like share my some experience using sense 2.5 and may not work for you.

I have no SOD using Manila 2.1 so far.

I have no SOD using sense 2.5 with leo 1.3 and below but with a lot of bug.

I face SOD after cooked with sense 1.43 and above.

The touchscreen just freeze during device standby

My SOD only Touchscreen not working but hardware keyboard is working.

I try flash radio 1.16 with rilphone 1.4

Also try minimum 3rd party application install except RESET app.

Recmod some oem/sys modules to file

Flash rom from PC instead of SD card

Only help with lesser freeze.

goto back and compare the old and new sense 2.5

I realise that new sense I installed have new TaskManager, HTC camera installed and without SmartLock 1_7E installed. I using back old taskmanager, Xperia Camera and smartlock.

Wow! Surprise me -> no hang or freeze for more than 4 days although have lagging with HTC Messaging.:confused::D

Note: I only flash my own cooked rom only.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxcheng:
Jack 5.0 full facing this problem too.. at least 3 restarts per day :s
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zeter:
This problem is solved when i m using Build 24001 + manila 2.5.2011xxxxx .

PS: I've tried Valkyrie_v5.7 FireStorm and Touch It BL for two days. The problem hasnt happened yet.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
just had one with Touch-IT BT 24001. but so far it's only been 1, so it looks like this build-combination is at least less prone to SoD... time will tell.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darthmelk:
Caliban, I'm waiting for your reports, since you already flashed it. But I lost my hope in Itje releasing a SoD-free ROM. :)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richard.ian.brown:
Un modified NRGZ's Energy Rom (Jan 25th) without Max Manilla works for me without SOD.

When I add MaxManilla I get the SOD.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
just look one post above your's... :D

so far it's been only one, during the day. unless another SoD occurs during the next 24 or 48 hrs, i'll consider this just a "hiccup"... (because it survived the night while charging in standby with wifi on)

ps: it's not only occuring in itje's roms, EVERY cook has this problems. so stop pointing fingers, eh? :) even for "untamed" there were some reports, although it's winmo 6.1!!!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darthmelk:
I'm waiting for further reports then. ;)

I'm not poining fingers, I know most chefs make SoD ROMs - but we were talking about itje's latest one here. And btw Untamed is WP6.5, not WM6.1.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manny-:
I had this same problem for quite a while too... so i decided to try this ROM: FireStorm v.4.5.502T-R Build 23502. I've been using it for 2 days straight and I've had no problems with it at all so far :)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fallen Spartan:
MOD EDIT - Thread moved to general discussion forum
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Howshall:
1.5 weeks of SoD free living :D

Confirmed: For 1.5 weeks now Oobly's Medium 2.3 with Rhodium dialer has been absolutely rock solid for me and completely SoD free, whereas I was regularly getting SoD's on a range of Energy, Valkyrie and other ROMs since early December.

Just soo glad to have a stable reliable device back again and only thing missing is Manila Landscape support, which I can live without for now.

I'll keep an eye on this thread for recommendations or warnings on other ROMs and I'll update here when I get the testing/flashing itch again ;)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
alright, second night with touch-it bt 24001 v1.1 has passed.

no SoD so far, neither day or night. it looks like the one incident i've reported yesterday has been something else. ("hiccup")

but there is another problem with this build:

another guy and myself had to a hardreset, because the phone got stuck at SE-bootlogo after it had been completely turned off. he claims that this happens on agent47's valkyrie as well, but i haven't found more posts about this. he's talking about "crashing" though - well, for me it didn't "crash", it refused to boot up again after deliberately shutting the thing completely off.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alperyasar:
I was reading through this thread hoping that this could possibly be a hardware issue, and hence be covered under warranty. However it seems we either put up with the SOD or give up our prefered ROM.

:-(
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
as you can see this thread has been rather quiet lately, SoD doesn't occur that much anymore. :) looks like it's been related to winmo-build, sense-build or the mixture of both. anyway, latest roms are stable concerning this particular bug. maybe flashing stock-rom before custom-rom helps, who knows? i'm doing it this way and everything's fine for 2 weeks or so, including g-alarm.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darthmelk:
Or maybe people gave up trying, like me. :D

I spoke with a few guys that tried some ROMs and still got SoD, but maybe they didn't use e.g. itje's latest. If I have some free time maybe I'll have a go again. What OS version are you using right now, the one in your signature?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
nah, i think the bug "SoD" is fixed - for now.

the stability of newer builds is a completely different topic. to me it looks like many people read somewhere about SoD and when the phone freezes, they think "this has to be one". :p
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yinduyun:
After two days with Blaze 3.5 (the 24001 version), I am really really happy with it and so far SoD-free. Been using it on external charger and USB connection, automatic internet features and everything - so far it's absolutely stable. Will make a mention if it ever does go SoD, but so far things are looking good.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Howshall:
Thanks for the updates

Just wanted to thank caliban2, darthmelk & yinduyun for their updates here.

At the moment I've still been sticking with Oobly's WM6.1 and Sense 2.5 ROM so I'm SoD free on that particular ROM and hadn't felt like experimenting further until there was at least hope of finding a newer ROM that gave me significantly better features than Oobly's.

Many thanks to yinduyun for being brave enough to be testing Blaze 3.5, will look forward to hearing if you make it a whole week without SoD and then depending what other bugs you find flash over to that ROM if you think it's a keeper, although I'm also awfully tempted by EnergyROM's latest with CookieMonster Manila enhancements...

Sounds like my ROM flashing itch is back ;)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caliban2:
sorry, overlooked your question. yes, that's my current rom. (i've tried itje's 23534, but it's not stable enough yet. mind you, i'm not talking about SoD! ^^)

<off-topic rant>

nevertheless i'm close to reverting to a manila 2.1-rom, because of htc-messaging in 2.5 still being a major pain in the, err "lower back". (you know, where the sun never shines?)

it makes an important function of the phone completely useless. if you're "lucky" it's just slow, but sometimes the whole system freezes if you slide out the hw-keyb at the wrong moment and you have to softreset. and that goes for EVERY 2.5-rom and EVERY device, including the hd2. zenkin's cab to disable it doesn't really work with newer manila-versions and always introduced other annoying bugs. UTTER CRAP!!! :mad:

<off-topic rant />

edit:

look at this, SoD on HD2 or just an unstable rom? ^^ there are 2 or 3 more people reporting it in the thread.

(yes, darthmelk, i know, it's an itje-rom. but please don't start pointing fingers again? i didn't search if it happens with other hd2-roms as well, just stumbled upon this one by accident.)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wildseal2003:
so any fix?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Howshall:
Best guarenteed fix...don't run WM6.5 and Sense 2.5 together!

Check this thread for a lot of helpful advice on possible things that may help to do with flashing processes and things not to do, however if you want a quick fix then either:

Use a WM6.5 ROM without HTC Sense installed (use WM Default (i.e. Titanium) or one of 3rd party home screens)

or

Use a WM6.1 ROM with HTC Sense and accept compromise in other areas like older versions, less tabs, likely not full landscape support.

or

Read through this thread or latest ROMs list and start picking and flashing ROMs!

BUT please report back here with full and exact version and errors and possible triggers you experienced to help everyone, and if you find a good ROM, tell us! :)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Howshall:
Latest experiences in SOD, back into the breach!

Hi all,

Been away from this thread for quite a while as I was last trying to find my ideal ROM in Nov 09 when I spent the best part of 3 months flashing to many different ROMs (evidence of which you can find mostly in this thread) in the hunt for the holy grail...

A Stable, SOD free, high performance, landscape supported, WM6.5 + Sense 2.5 ROM for X1?​

...and in that time I didn't manage to find that goal and eventually got tired of missing text and calls and effectively not having a reliable mobile phone! So in Jan 10 I 'settled' for Oobly's Medium 2.3 with Rhodium dialer and stayed with that until a couple of weeks ago.

Tempted back into ROM flashing by the latest advances in Sense 2.5 extra tabs, tighter social networking integration, and particularly Cookie Sense mod I naturally started with NRGZ28's highly respected (and amazing ;) ) Energy ROMs

Unfortunately once setup (with no significant changes just user setup) I found SOD problems with both 1st and 9th May releases of Energy.XPERIA.21903.Sense2.5.Cookie

- My Initial review of ROM issues

- Further SOD specific 9th May ROM updates

- Confirmation from others on their good and bad experiences with Energy Cookie

So my question here is does anyone have any recommendations for a recent ROM that fits my 1 line wishlist above?

Successfully Tested SOD Free!:

- Energy.XPERIA.23569.Sense2.5.Cookie.May.16 - Tested for 2 weeks! - New Energy ROM based on new official shipped WM6.5 ROM and non-LEO Sense 2.5 - So far great speed, stability and no SOD :) - My SOD Testing and Flash methods - My initial review

Only word of warning is that this ROM did become unresponsive in Standby while on power if Opera 10 installed and left running in background. Problems went away with Opera 10 uninstall. Only bad thing with this ROM is that installed Opera 9.7 doesn't work with X1 hardware keyboard for web form entry. Therefore planning to test newer Energy ROM with Opera 10 baked in, otherwise will likely try install of different Opera 9.7's from official Opera Thread until I find an X1 keyboard friendly one.

Previously tested and rejected ROMs:

1) Energy.XPERIA.23569.Sense2.5.Cookie.May.01 - (2 day test) Great features, but various graphics glitches, instability and SODs - Full Views (Lower part of linked post)

2) Energy.XPERIA.23569.Sense2.5.Cookie.May.09 - (3 day test) Great features, much more stable release, unfortunately 4x SODs for me (only when Sense UI running, with default Titanium UI rock solid) - Full Views

3) TAI 21899 Sense 2.5.2013.2815 WWE - (5 day test) 21899 was labelled '(no SOD)' by chef themselves - Based on Touch Diamond 2 not Leo packages, 5x SOD and various lock-ups for me - Full views

Untested potential ROMs:

- x1_firestorm_v6.5.21901 TR2.5 - Valkyrie_v6.5 FireStorm is very well respected ROM chef

- evilash_leo_echo_theme - Wildcard choice, and female friend has X1 and might like this ;)

Let me know how you others are doing, with or without SODs!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jvanzeijst:
Thumb's Up for Wildchild's untamed 1.3 ROM,it proven itself to be absolute rock solid for me!

It has Sense v2.1, sorry no sense2.5! but at least it fullfills all your other needs.

Not even one freeze or unexpected reset needed, sinds i flashed this rom more than a month ago. dont forget to task29(found on xperia-unoff site) before flashing.

great bonus is that the panels are working too, although i hardly use them.

Happy flashing,

Jeffrey
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eiben_robert:
Possible solution for SOD

Hello

I am also one of the "lucky" X1 owners who seems to get SOD's with most Win6.5 + sense 2.5

Strangely I noticed that NRGZ28's rom's were mostly SOD free (I used 21904 Sense 2.5 CHT for some 2 weeks without a single SOD). I looked into the ROM and I found one tweak which seems to do the job. So

1) download and install Schap's Advanced Config from http://www.touchxperience.com/en/applications/view.download/11/16.html

2) open Schap's Advanced Config, go to the "Power Management" and set

"AC resuming from suspend timeout" and "Battery resuming from suspend timeout" to maximum = 90 seconds(or custom value 120 seconds). Default is 1 second. Click "Done" and you'll be asked to soft reset which you should do.

I tried this tweak in another ROM which I liked but was giving me 2-3 SOD's per day and no SOD's since (48 hours, with charging and alarms functioning normally). I had one "tentantive" SOD: pressed the power button, nothing hapened imediately but the phone woke up after some 10 seconds and worked well afterwards.

This may or may not work for everybody but if you have SOD's you can try it and report the results.

All credits go to those who discovered this (NRG, Caliban ... - thank you)

Robert

UPDATE: if the maximum value is not working for you you should try different values (start with 10 and work up by adding increments of 10 until you find a working solution).
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Howshall:
Thanks to eiben_robert for sharing

Many thanks for sharing eiben_robert, those certainly sound sensible things to be tweaking, and I agree that many of NRG's recent ROMs seem relatively SOD free.

At the moment I've been doing extended testing on Energy.XPERIA.23569.Sense2.5.Cookie.May.28 since it's initial release 2 weeks ago and I've currently only had 2 SOD's and maybe 2 lockups in 2 weeks, which certainly isn't perfect, but is livable for all the great features and look of NRG's Cookie ROMs.

As I've previously reported Energy.XPERIA.23569.Sense2.5.Cookie.May.16 which I tested for the 2 weeks before that was more stable with only 1x 'maybe' SOD.

Currently I'm waiting for his next bugfix release which I'm sure is due after he's been tweaking his kitchen and 1st embedded Cookie v1.8

If my next flash proves to have SODs I'll definitely try your suggestion and report back here. If that next ROM proves completely SOD free for me after 2 weeks I'll also report that back here of course! :)