yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] clubtech:
Just to compare, how much FPS is this sample getting on devices like tp2 and HD1?
[HD2 General] VanKurt:
Sadly I'm at work right now. Maybe someone else can test this?

This evening I can try it on my TD2 (but as far as I can remeber the framerate was much higher there...)
[HD2 General] smilegod:
No HD2

I won't buy HTC HD2 before the problem with this and also camera issue are solved :(
[HD2 General] ganon4:
For the camera it's a know problem and htc has already communicate about this :o not all htc devices have weird colors (pink or blue).
[HD2 General] danielherrero:
Can you upload the exe file?

Thanks
[HD2 General] VanKurt:
No problem. Here it is.

Please let me know how it works on your device(s).
[HD2 General] christonabike:
Hi there,

This seems to work fine on my hd2. It stutters occasionally but otherwise it's locked to 59.8-60fps. I'm guessing vsync is on.
[HD2 General] Binks821:
I've dowloaded Electopia demo and it's running perfectly! It's so amazing that it tooks me several minutes to believe that! (it's the first mobile game I see with these kind of graphics).

I've also ran the test tool mentioned by VanKurt. It runs between 40 and 60 fps. But the framerate is moving very quickly between these 2 values (and sometimes it quickly go down to 30 during some milliseconds). Maybe it should be better, i don't know what are the ideal values to expect from this test app.

ROM version: 1.43.405.1 (70124) WWE
[HD2 General] danielherrero:
59-60 fps in my Toshiba TG01. Tomorrow arrives my new toy, hd2, of course :D
[HD2 General] clubtech:
I am getting only 31fps on this test and it is indeed lagging.

Pathetic.

I am sure my ROM version is messed up. can't wait for an updated ROM.
[HD2 General] Chainfire:
Bookmarked... I'll look at this later (but you go ahead and give neo all the credit :P)
[HD2 General] clubtech:
Can someone upload the drivers from 1.48.XX ROM?
[HD2 General] clubtech:
Glad to see you here Chainfire!

I read you have done magic on the I8000 and others. i hope you can help us here.
[HD2 General] Chainfire:
Arr. Actually I did most work on Kaiser OpenGL drivers...

Can you post those TG-01 drivers?

Snatching the 1.48 drivers right now... see if they do any good.

BTW, weird story that TG-01 stuff... Cause with a faulty libglesv2_cm.dll things shouldn't really run at all... (v1 is emulated in v2) So if some OpenGL things do work, the TG-01 driver is at least partially doing something...

Unless I read the TG-01 story wrong, that is :)
[HD2 General] dragon_soft:
Just tried the opengl test file, got 31-32 fps on the first run, so i exited and tried again, now i constatntly get 59-60 fps.

Also tried kept the test running in the background and tried playing some music through wm player, bt it just kept stuttering!!!
[HD2 General] fards:
i already have! earlier in the thread
[HD2 General] fards:
what about looking at the diag_lsm? not looked at the tg01 but the htc v2 file calls it. i still dont know what it does...
[HD2 General] clubtech:
Attached.

I am not sure what is happening but when i replace the drivers of the HD2 with the TG01, some games that do load work flawlessly. other games simply wont load. same with Sense.
[HD2 General] Chainfire:
Using 1.48 drivers now, seems to make little difference, though I can pretty consistently get 60 FPS at times. But this is _only_ if the device is plugged into USB. It drops to +- 30 FPS when USB is not connected, and choppy. So pretty much the same situation as with 1.43 drivers
[HD2 General] DMAND:
I got 50-60 fps in the below ROM, this stutters when the phone tries to collect email etc. but correctly the fps drop upon backlight dimming to save power.
[HD2 General] clubtech:
I cant get more than 40fps, mostly 31fps on 1.43.479.0.

No difference if i plug it in to AC charger or not.

Can you post the 1.48 ROM drivers so i can test with them?
[HD2 General] bunkai:
Dear all,

to add my voice, I planned to purchase HTC HD2 for mobile development. I hoped that a Windows Mobile tool capable of nice 3D graphics with OpenGL finally appeared.

But i see, I have to wait. Why is HTC ignoring this. There are so many complaints - computer games are huge business, and mostly this is the reason why mobile user decide to buy expensive smartphones.

I see, i have to wait until some other producer releases something finally working with OGL ES 2.0. Maybe Omnia II, although its HW performance is not as good as on HD2.

Regards,

Rene
[HD2 General] br3nt:
don't mean to be that person but, winMo is/was designed for business, hence no iPhone apps/games - but since the diamond came along and regular customers could habe a smart phone, the demands started to come... im afraid you will have to look elswhere if you want to have fun with your phone

maybe all this will change with winmo 7 but till then, winmo is more business and since HTC are stubborn, well, here we are :p
[HD2 General] VanKurt:
I totally disagree! The HD2 is an awesome phone with quite capable hardware. There are several games out there that show what can be done (like this "Experiment 13" demo). So the HD can actually run some great games :D

Sadly I don't know how to get started on OpenGLES 2.0 otherwise I would be coding right now ;)
[HD2 General] DAMIEN123_666:
ok people, i have played sofar

NFS undercover

Xtrakt

Electopia

with no problemts at all, where can i get this open benchmark thing to try out
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I'm afraid you misinterpret the problem. About only GL ES 2.0 game out there is this demo thing, and it runs beautifully. The stuttering occurs with older 1.0 games.
[HD2 General] clubtech:
Again:

Xtrakt and Electopia do NOT use the OpenGL drivers. they are using the hardware directly. These games are not a good example as they use the hardware directly.

NFS will be stuttering in portrait and is using the drivers.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I totally fail to comprehend how something that looks as ugly as this Experiment thingie can require any hardware acceleration. :)
[HD2 General] VanKurt:
:D At least it's 3D and runs smooth (which is something very special on the HD2)
[HD2 General] bunkai:
Dear Br3nt,

Thanks for your response. Well, computer games do not depened very much on the operating system itself. They try to access HW as directly as possible, and the OS is used mostly for file access.

Then, video driver and OpenGL support comes to consideration. Is it not a pitty, if such great device having all the potential being more powerful than iPHone can not be used for computer games development, just because the driver is not good enough?

As I see it, so little is needed to be done, comparing how much work must have been done to introduce HD2 on the market.

That is true that there were not many Windows Mobile devices available for computer games developmet - however, it is not fault of the OS architecture, but of the drivers they almost never have support for the HW.

Regards,

Rene
[HD2 General] bunkai:
Hello Vangrieg,

Ah, this would be really nice. Is there a way how to measure the performance of Open GL ES 2.0 on HD2?

Are you sure with your statement above and is the problem related only to OpenGL ES 1.1? OpenGL ES 2.0 is not backward compatible with ES 1.1.

It would be great placing HD into this portal: http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.jsp so we can directly see how powerful it is comparing to other paltforms.

From pure HW viewpoint, it should be as powerful as iPhone 3GS.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I have no idea, frankly speaking. I'm not aware of any 2.0 benchmarks.

I'm absolutely sure that the games that have problems aren't 2.0 ones - they run on Touch HD with no 2.0 support. My understanding is that 1.x is emulated in 2.0 drivers for backwards compatibility, and HD2 has serious problems with how this emulation works. You'll find more details and comments about the situation from much more knowledgeable people than I am in this thread.

I think I remember seeing that page with HD2 results.

Not quite, but it's certainly way more powerful than iPhone 3G and has sufficient firepower hardware wise to play decent games. It has a much higher resolution than the iPhone does, so it'll have a more difficult job though.
[HD2 General] RMNZR:
Tower Defense

Tower Defense runs just fine on my HD2. But only after I did this:

"13. Install Compact Net Framework 3.5 to Make Old Apps Work Again

Some apps you may have used on another phone will not work on the Leo unless you install Compact Net Framework to your phone. Download the cab from the following link and install to Device only - not Storage Card and then reset. http://justpctech.com/PPC/NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.5. Go here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5."
[HD2 General] clubtech:
.NET3.5 is required for Tower Defense to run. if you don’t have it installed the games will not start.

If you download the game from Marketplace, the Marketplace app will install .NET3.5 automatically so the game can run.

That being said, it made no difference for me. if you look closely at the army vehicles you will see they are not moving smoothly. they all stutter.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
You might have noticed that apart from installing 3.5 RMNZR also disabled 2.0, which is known to make .Net applications run faster. Maybe that could make a difference.
[HD2 General] clubtech:
Yea i did that as well...still lagging.
[HD2 General] RMNZR:
Strange, because mine runs smoothly after telling the registry to use 3.5. Do you close all other apps (taskmanager) before playing?

Also, I had a few slowness-issues on my device. Most notable when I wanted to access the Windows-folder. A hard-reset took care of that...
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
On a side note, and to lighten things up a bit, I realized I've spent more time thinking about game performance on HD2 than I have spent (and most probably will ever spend) actually gaming on any platform since 2002. :)
[HD2 General] RMNZR:
Haha! Same here. I played a lot on my HTC Hero, but games like Xtrakt and Tower Defense is almost beyond awesome on the 4,3" WVGA!
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I'll take NFS over these any day. :) I've never played racing games before, but doing it with g-sensor turned out to be a lot of fun for me. I certainly wouldn't mind to try some graphics-heavy hardware accelerated 3D shooter with g-sensor and multitouch one day on a 4.x inch 480x800 device, although if it never appears I will certainly live without it, and my family will be happier. :)
[HD2 General] RMNZR:
Where can I find / buy it?
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I tried to find a legitimate link, but it wasn't easy (and these people complain about piracy! I couldn't for the life of me find a WM download link on eamobile.com). Here's one. Please note however that not all versions support g-sensor. I think the Touch HD version on handango should.
[HD2 General] RMNZR:
Yeah, what's up with that... If the publishers actually cared about taggin their games with WVGA-support and maybe a screenshot in WVGA... Then I'd buy ****. When I boot the Marketplace-app on a Norwegian HD2 I can see a grand total of 10 apps.
[HD2 General] Roupette:
Tower Defense and Flight Commander are almost the only one to lag (not lauching) and both of them are based on .NET Compact Framework.

If, only the 2.0 version is installed on the HD2, and installing + making the 3.5 version, the default version, resolves the problem, all this talk-**** about the 3Ddriver would have been a stupid joke ^^

It's just a .NET framework problem, and nothing else I think, the HD is perfect for all the wvga games :) Don't have it by now (HD2), but it would be interresting, il people could confirm this.
[HD2 General] mdalacu:
For sure it's a driver issue, and not a .Net. On my HTC TP2 i was able to play Quake 3 Arena but on HD2 i only get 1 fps and this game it's all about OpenGL 1.1.
[HD2 General] bunkai:
Dear Vangrieg,

Thanks for the link. I will keep wathing it to see, if there are any news on the HD2 dirver performance improvements.

Best regards,

Rene
[HD2 General] bunkai:
According to this, HD2 should be very simmilar to iPhone 3GS from performance viewpont:

PowerVR MBX-Lite (iPhone 3G): 1 M triangles/s, 100 M pixels/s

Samsung S3C6410 (Omnia II): 4 M triangles/s, 125.6 M pixels/s

PowerVR SGX 520 (Palm Pre): 14 M triangles/s, ___ M pixels/s

ATI Imageon Z430 (Toshiba TG01): 22 M triangles/s, 133 M pixels/s

PowerVR SGX 535 (iPhone 3GS): 28 M triangles/s, 400 M pixels/s
[Android Themes] david1171:
Not religious in any way shape or fashion.
​

It's just a name people. It is in no way religious.

Blinded by Faith, the first theme by The Reverend Gridlock @ androidoverdrive.com...updated by david1171 while I am on my roadtrip (and banned from here)...Thanks David!

Hey everyone, I have been down at david1171's place for the past week and he's been teaching me how to theme. Seeing as this is the first go-round for me, I would appreciate any and all feedback you care to give.

This dark theme is my adaptation of david1171's Minus-X theme and includes brandenk's app drawer tab and a calendar template from Ted417 (thanks guys). I have posted a barebone version of the theme for cyanogen roms cause the different adp google apps can break on i know at least the 32a magics so this is without google apps or the lockscreen, the dvanced launcher is included though. Add-ons include David1171's skinned 2.0 apps, Stericsons lockscreen, an add-on for Google Nav

Special thanks to david1171 (buy the man some noodles) and pretty much everyone that he thanks for his theme, ted417, brandenk and pershoot for keeping up Stericson's lockscreen. If I forgot anyone, please shoot david a PM or find me on androidoverdrive.com and I will include your name as well.

And everyone: Please, please provide any feedback and/or suggestions here...Thank you

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thanks dave for the killer boot screen

Download​

BBF V.09 for Cm4.2.6 without google apps or stericon's lockscreen

cm4.2.9 v09

http://www.4shared.com/file/163226211/4be2df47/BBF426barev09.html

can be used n any device

stericon's lockscreen add-on for 4.2.6

http://www.4shared.com/file/163227031/c2ec0ece/lockflash426.html

To get the skinned Google Apps for g1 only (don't know if the g1 gApps work on mytouch's)

(looking for a 32a magic user to test skinned google apps if i make them)

http://www.4shared.com/file/153139712/b93800bd/google.html

To remove the skinned Google Apps for g1 only

http://www.4shared.com/file/153140808/84820c45/google_remove.html

for g1 only

google navi add-on' just flash and install the google voice app from the market

http://www.4shared.com/file/154348046/449e0294/skinnedmapsnavi.html

For Dwang v1.13 v0.8 this has the Gapps goodness in it

http://www.4shared.com/file/154329474/b1480a62/BBFv08_dwang_v113.html

Please provide any feedback of ideas you have :)
[Android Themes] david1171:
to dos.....

make a kickass bootscreen, gonna be good and creepy:eek: check mark

new smiley icons

change battery meter icon

edit some more .png

secretly optimize it, WHAT, everbody says it even though they all use the same programs to do it ;)

think of better theme name. fo' rizzle

scare small children. check :cool:

change log:

12-01

change for .09

ported to cm4.2.6

reverted gtalk notif icon to stock

made a bare bones theme with advanced launcher so can be used on g1,magic's and mytouchs

please flash add-ons for google apps or stericon's lockscreen

11-18

added dwang port of v.08

aslo added options of no lockscreen or no skinned google apps (people like option)

added turn by turn navi for google maps add-on flash

11-17

calendar background

calendar widget

camera

photo widget

notifcation bar pull down

app drawer background

Stericson's Lockscreen

framework edits

probably more things that escape my mind at the moment

11-16

added new boot screen

ported to 4.2.5

new dialer.

some *secret* optimizations.

Old Versions:

Blinded By Faith for CM 4.2.5 without Google Apps inside

http://www.4shared.com/file/153000640/da77191c/Blinded_by_Faith_CM425_v05.html

Blinded By Faith for CM 4.2.5 with Google Apps inside

http://www.4shared.com/file/153138804/faa0b491/BBF_CM425.html

blinded by faith v.05 for dwang 1.13

http://http://www.4shared.com/file/15310966...wang_v113.html
[Android Themes] sykopompos:
cm4.2.6 v09

http://www.4shared.com/file/163226211/4be2df47/BBF426barev09.html

gonna be a bare theme without the google apps or the lockscreen so can be used n any device

stericon's lockscreen add-on

http://www.4shared.com/file/163227031/c2ec0ece/lockflash426.html

gonna be bare themes for now on to work on all devices

use the add google skinned apps.zip for the dream google Apps
[Android Themes] sykopompos:
Looks good, really like the color choices, can't wait to see what changes this will undertake
[Android Themes] don kiedic:
at first i thought that this theme was religous but once i checked it out. i really like it and it comes with some great stuff
[Android Themes] pistol4413:
****s tight grabed this from androidoverdrive.com
[Android Themes] sykopompos:
.03 coming tonight with a new kickass bootscreen and a fix for the call length screw-up and a new dailer, maybe more

Got from androidoverdrive
[Android Themes] sykopompos:
Blinded by faith (new name of the them) .05 is out with one kickass bootscreen (gonna change the bootscreen game) working on cm 4.2.5 without steriscon lock screen.

Here is the d/l link

http://www.4shared.com/file/153000640/da77191c/Blinded_by_Faith_CM425_v05.html
[Android Themes] B-man007:
Not a big fan of skulls but the boot animation in this is sickkkkkkkk
[Android Themes] david1171:
to shut someone up. shameless bump.
[Android Themes] evry1sgirl:
Bootscreen looks really good ;)
[Android Themes] don kiedic:
The update looks really good and I like the new name

1 suggestion

How bout a different app drawer background and notifaction pulldown

I am suprised that nobody else is giving suggestion
[Android Themes] djn541:
I would, but can't get it to work.
[Android Themes] david1171:
what errors are it throwing up? saying you can't get it to work does no one any good for debugging your problem. what ROM are you using? is it on a mytouch or a g1? are you trying to use the version with the google apps?
[Android Themes] pistol4413:
The new dialer and boot screen look sweet. Lol funny story about the boot screen. My daughter was playing with my G1 and she rebooted it by mistake. So when the boot screen comes up i hear her start to wine. After about a min she throws the fone at me bursts into tears and tryes to hide. Now she doesnt even want to touch my g1 lmfao!
[Android Themes] david1171:
pretty decent update :) new screen shots, more from that fool later.
[Android Themes] djn541:
Sorry about that:rolleyes:. I'm using dwang 1.13 on g1. i've got the zip for navigation so, i don't need that. it boots ok but gets stuck at the android boot screen. The button lights come on like it is going to work but never gets any further. backlight goes off. I can then press menu to get it back on but it is still stuck at the android screen....any thoughts?
[Android Themes] sykopompos:
Sounds like a bootloop, try doing a wipe or it could be something on the ext partition hanging it up, it should boot no problem on dwang 1.13, I have tried it and it worked perfectly
[Android Themes] sykopompos:
If you are able to pull the notif bar pulldown than it is an advanced launcher crash, you could have gotten a bad d/l so try red/ling the theme if that doesn't work than wait for the dwang v08 that should be coming out later, a version could also be made without the advanced launcher also later on if requested
[Android Themes] djn541:
downloading the newest version and going to try it now.
[Android Themes] djn541:
Couldn't pull anything down. I've wiped everything but data and am trying again with fresh flashes of dwang and theme. I'll let you know.:o
[Android Themes] sykopompos:
The one in the op as newest version is the same on that you got (.05) the .08 update for dwang will not be out till later along with the non google app version and a version without stericon's lockscreen and a version without the advanced launcher
[Android Themes] djn541:
Yeah, still didn't work. Thank god for nandroid. would it help if i did a complete data wipe? Not sure it's worth it for a theme. May just wait until

.08 comes out.:confused:
[Android Themes] sykopompos:
Try it, you could always do a nandroid, v.08 should be out around 4pm alantic time so you you can wai till than but chances are your problems will persist so you midas well get it figure it out now before I get busy later
[Android Themes] djn541:
I think i got a bad dl. i wiped everything and now won't get past g1 screen. I'll try a new dl???:(

Well, I tried everything to no avail:( anxiously awaiting 0.8 now so that I can try this out. Looks very cool. Thanks to all who have helped me. And a BIG thanks to all the devs that have made all of this possible!!!!

OH MY GOD! I figured it out. I didn't have hard spl. updated and now everything works!!! Thanks for your help guys.
[Android Themes] david1171:
update

the blinded by faith v.08 for dwang 1.13 is now tested and uploaded, if you are getting a black screen after the boot screen than you need to wipe your ext partition, if you are running amon ra recovery1.3.0 or higher than it is under wipe in the menu
[Android Themes] djn541:
Loving this theme:D any way to add animations?
[Android Themes] david1171:
the new lockscreen broke the overwrote the animations, i am about to uploaded and post the new versions without google apps and without lockscreen in about a half hour. .09 with lockscreen might be out tonight with the animations fixed but gridlock is extremely tired cause he has been up about 28 hours now and is getting back on his roadtrip tomorrow so it will most likely only be bug fixes and port ups to any new rom updates for about a week
[Android Themes] djn541:
Just so you know. Gmail doesn't work. it gives notifications that you have a msg but when you try to open it, it fc's
[Android Themes] david1171:
mediafire had a bad upload on the dwang theme update so i have gone back to 4shared so check the link in the op for a new upload link
[Android Themes] david1171:
newly rewritten posts with new links and some oiptions for people who want different things also a skinned google navi.zip for those that went the google turn by turn, just flash the theme than flash the add-on and when you boot up go to the market and d/l google voice, let it install than open gmaps and you have navi:cool:
[Android Themes] pistol4413:
it looks good everything is coming together nicely. keep it up!
[Android Themes] p3t1:
i really liked this theme... but gapps process crash when i start the phone . i dont know why... but when i flash the theme gtalk, market, gmail..., stop work... i really hope this will be fixed.

but good job, this is the best theme so far... with some adjustments and will be perfect :)
[Android Themes] evry1sgirl:
Need more info hun...Which version of the theme are you trying to run? What h/s do you have, g1? mytouch? Have you tried a wipe? Nandroid? Are you coming from another theme? Rom? What have you done to try and fix the issue?

Could be a bad d/l...but need more info to help further
[Android Themes] p3t1:
ive one htc magic 32A, and i use cyanogenmod 4.2.5. without theme all works fine... after flash this last version theme i cant use anymore google applications.

PS: always the same procedure... fulll wipe, install cyanogenmod... reboot... install theme
[Android Themes] evry1sgirl:
The skinned Gapps are for the dream only. If you have did a nandroid backup, restore it and try to d/l the version of the theme WITHOUT the Google apps. If you don't have a nandroid, you can try the Google remove zip which should restore the stock Gapps. If this doesnt work than you are going to have to wipe and reflash the adp and rom...

This is a known compatibility issue with the ion adp rom...

Gridlock will look into skinning the ION Gapps if requested...