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[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
thanks for your reply, I've tried but nothing happened.

What was my mistake?

Before I upgraded, I've dumped my ROM. using the utilities as mentioned here : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom

I made two backup :

* One backup with the OS and ExtROM only (for others to use)

* And another backup with everything included (for yourself only, for warranty or selling purposes).

After that, seems everything to be Okay, and then I did as mentioned in this post : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=445666

and then I flash Onyx Ultimate 4.8. And, I did it!!!

But then, when the device reboot, I saw a thin horisontal line on the top of the LCD. As I worried about my device, then I decided to go back to original ROM.

I did again this : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=445666

And I overwrite the .nbh file with the Complete ROM that I have dumped before.

Everything seems to be Okay, it uploaded 100%, then the disaster happened !!!!

The device went off, and it never get on again. Until now. I've tried many ways to make it On :

1. Remove the battery, and then plug it again, turn the power ON, and it still go off.

2. Remove the battery, plug in charger with no battery, try to power ON, still off.

3 Remove the battery, plug in the charger with no battery, push the camera button and reset button on the same time, nothing happened.

Please help me, I really frustated here :( What was my activity that could cause a damage to my Elf?

I've tried a repair man and he said that there's no J-Tag to turn on my P3450, I must change the machine to the new one....

My device information before it's dead :

HTC Touch device information - by dsixda

Touch version : Elf

Device ID : ELF010000

CID : DOPOD001

IPL : 1.11.0002

SPL : 1.11.0000

ROM Version : 1.11.707.1B

ExtROM Version : 1.11.707.101

Operator Version: None

AKU Version : 0.2.3

Page Pool : 8 MB

RAM Size : 64 MB

ROM Size : 128 MB

Model No. : ELF0300

Part Number : 99HDM034-00

MCC+MNC : Not found

Please, any help would deeply appreciated !

Thanks

Please, any help would deeply appreciated !

Thanks
[Touch GSM General] sam62:
Hi, I had same problem the other day just I could not power up my device after down grading, my device just rejected to work and went dead.

So I made the following steps then I was able to get it work in bootloader option only:

- Take the battry out

- Take the sim card out

- Take the memory card out

- wait for 1 to 3 minutes

- replace the battry back

- hold on the camera botton then press the power botton and hold it.

if it did not work, bring the battery out then replace it back then try press

the camera botton and press the power botton while keep on clicking the

camer botton, it should come to bootloader status. Wish you good luck.
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
Hi..thanks for your answer. I've done it but nothing happened. I really start to worry that my device really..really death.

When you're in that condition, did you plug the charger to the PDA while the battery still on it? Was the LED light up, green or orange? My problem is, there's no light up at all...no response :(
[Touch GSM General] :
Could you make what happened clearer?

Did you flash an entire NBH image, SPL & IPL included, while using HardSPL?

Trying to replace HardSPL with a stock SPL has caused issues before.

HardSPL cannot be simply overwrited by a stock SPL.

Check out this thread to remove HSPL.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=342744

Though it might be bricked...try the Elf[in] unbricker...
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
I think you're right on this one : Did you flash an entire NBH image, SPL & IPL included, while using HardSPL?

I thought I wanted to get back to factory default by flashing the complete NBH file, which include :OS, Ext. ROM, Radio, Splash, SPL, and IPL H3.

I run the "elf-uspl.exe" in the folder named "USPL_2.28.0000 with IPL_2.27", which I downloaded from this thread : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom

(it was extracted from TOOLS).

after that I uploaded the complete ROM that I have backed up before. Actually I made two backups, one complete, the other only OS & Ext ROM.

guess my mistake is I restore the complete one.

If my device can not power ON at all (even when I plug in the charger, the light indicator not ON), can I still repair this?
[Touch GSM General] dare2know:
htc will nt accept it ..but u can try with service centers..
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
There's one new fact I just found out today.

I have a friend with the same ELF as mine.

When I put my battery on his ELF, his ELF also can not power ON. But I still can charge my battery on his ELF and it shows 0% !!!!

I firmly believe that yesterday when I downgraded my ELF from Onnyx to its backup original ROM, the battery is still more than 90%, as I've checked it before.

Is it possible that teh conflict of Hard SPL and my original backup ROM drain the battery so fast? I am now holding my friend's battery, but I scare to put it on my ELF as I don't want to damage his battery, worry that there's some short circuit.

The other problem :

1. When I put my battery on my friend's ELF and plug in the charger, the light indicator shows orange light, sign that it is being charged.

2. When I put my battery on my friend's ELF and plug in the charger, the light indicator shows nothing, it is definitely OFF.

Any suggestion for my case?
[Touch GSM General] belthur:
Charge your battery in your friend's phone and try it in your phone ... and tell us....
[Touch GSM General] Fa7my:
Confliction

I'm sorry if I'm not getting it right.. but you are contradicting yourself..

I mean when you put your battery in your friend's elf and plug in the charger.. does the indicator show orange light or not???!!
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
Yes, it is charged and shows orange light on my friend's ELF.

But when I put on mine, the light doesn't turn ON at all. Seems that mine can not charge the battery.

I've tried this way :

1. removed the battery and left the device alone for a few hours - no luck

2. charged the battery using a wall charger - no luck

3. removed sd card and sim card and tried the alternative reset at this link http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...ame=Elf_Resets using a wall charger. device booted into tricolor mode.

4. did the same alternative reset with a usb charger. once the device was in tricolor mode, flashed a cooked rom.

But unfortunately, there's nothing happened :(
[Touch GSM General] Fa7my:
sorry if i'm asking too many questions but what does the tricolor boot screen show?? (IPL/SPL) cause if the SPL is x.xx.cmon .. then HardSPL is still there and you would (probably) be able to flash another ROM..

is there a small "RUU" written the top write corner of the screen?? (written in white)
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
NOP, I am glad if somebody ask, means that there's someone who watching my thread.

The problem is, my Touch is not ON at all. totally dead. No light indicator, no power ON, just dead. :(

updated :

I have charged my battery until full 100%.

I did put on my device, holding the camera button while power ON, and still nothing happened. just dead. :(
[Touch GSM General] Fa7my:
did u try a hard reset ?? you can do it by holding the Call & End buttons and reseting with the stylus.. a confirmation msg will appear press the OK button (the large one in the middle)..

hope that will do you any good :S
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
I did hard reset, many times, but still can not work :(

I almost desperate thinking my dead ELF :( need some miraculuous to make it ON :)
[Touch GSM General] Fa7my:
hey bro i sent you my e-mail in a private msg so we can try solving this together in a better way..
[Touch GSM General] dsixda:
Did you at least read the sticky thread entitled "Unbricker"??

If you cannot get to bootloader it usually means your battery is dead... or the device is fried. Try charging it on the wall charger for at least 20 minutes again.
[Touch GSM General] anupam07ii:
only soln is to replace the entire motherboard

i did the same thing to my friend's mobile and it got totally dead

then i read that never to reinstall the original rom n never to downgrade your spl or roms

only soln is to get it repaired or replaced if under warranty by htc no one in the market can help u even htc will replace it they wont b able to boot it up hence if under waranty ur board will b changed for free

else buy a new one simple buddy ....
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
Yes DSIXDA, thanks for the advice. I have read the entire thread of "Unbricker". I've tried several ways from took out the battery, and leave it for some minutes, even some hours, then place it back, and nothing happened. The Unbricker actions mostly can be done if the device shows the "sign of life", while unfortunately my device doesn't. I did even the ridiculous and unlogical way from fixya forum, put the device in the refrigerator for a couple hours, dry it and put the battery back, still nothing happened. (LOL....)

Anyway, the day I broke my device, I also upgrade my friend's ELF successfully. The mistake I did was to downgraded my device to its original complete backup ROM.

His device info exactly the same with mine, but of course, the IMEI, SN, MAC Address and Part Number is different. But I can make sure that the device ID, CID, IPL, SPL & ROM Version,etc, all the same. May be you can take a look from this info, and this could be a valuable information to all people so what happened to me will not be happened to them (Got a great lesson from this...) :

Device Info before Upgrade :

HTC Touch device information - by dsixda

Touch version : Elf

Device ID : ELF010000

CID : DOPOD001

IPL : 1.11.0002

SPL : 1.11.0000

ROM Version : 1.11.707.1B

ExtROM Version : 1.11.707.101

Operator Version: None

AKU Version : 0.2.3

Page Pool : 8 MB

RAM Size : 64 MB

ROM Size : 128 MB

Model No. : ELF0100

Part Number : 99HDM032-00

MCC+MNC : Not found

Device Info after Upgrade :

HTC Touch device information - by dsixda

Touch version : Elf

Device ID : ELF010000

CID : DOPOD001

IPL : 1.11.0002

SPL : 1.11.0000

ROM Version : 3.14.706.02

ExtROM Version : Cooked by dsixda

Operator Version: Onyx Ultimate 4.8

AKU Version : 1.6.8

Page Pool : 4 MB

RAM Size : 64 MB

ROM Size : 128 MB

Model No. : ELF0100

Part Number : 99HDM032-00

MCC+MNC : Not found

There's strange things that I want to question :

Why after the upgrade process, the IPL & SPL still the same, while I'm sure I've done the "elf_uspl.exe"?

I used the TOOLS as mentioned on this thread : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom

downloaded the elf_uspl.exe from that thread, the one with "Various Tools >> * If you have an Elf: (Download) (Alternate Link) (51MB)"

Thanks for reply
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
Thanks for your suggestion. Yes my product is under warranty, hopefully the HTC service center will change it for free, since they can't go into my device and see that I've upgraded the ROM, of which, will void the warranty. I'm going to try to go to them for next couple weeks (cos I bought it on overseas and the warranty can only be claimed on the country I purchased...fiuuuh...got to go overseas just to claim it). Some local technician in my country also said that I broke my motherboard. There's no way to repair it but to replace the motherboard.

I'll give a news soon after I get to HTC Service Center. Thanks :)
[Touch GSM General] dsixda:
That's probably because you flashed a ROM with the White Screen method (temporary SPL) rather than flashing the USPL or Hard SPL. This is not the safest thing to do.. if the ROM is bad then your device is bricked and you are screwed, unless you have a Gold Card or original shipped ROM.
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
So what action I could possibly anticipate for my friend's device?

Is this answer why my device got bricked, even dead, yesterday?
[Touch GSM General] depakjan:
My device is in exact same condition.. it wont turn ON.. no lights at all.. so cant try anything... i fount that only JTAG pins will work.. but it's quite complicated.. i am searching stuffs for this..
[Touch GSM General] anupam07ii:
i dont think JTAG method is avaible for ELFIN even if it is then it going to very tricky n stuff req wont b avaible dat easy
[Touch GSM General] dsixda:
Sorry if this was mentioned earlier, but did you try to press the Reset button while pressing the Camera button, instead of pressing Power + Camera?
[Touch GSM General] character:
its sad to hear about your phone ...yet even sadder to read a post that seems to point a blame to onyx rom
[Touch GSM General] oza_crazy:
"And I overwrite the .nbh file with the Complete ROM that I have dumped before"

Did u say that u are Flashing a Full ROM (ur DUMPED ROM) using RUU for Flashing HARD SPL???

if yes... then u have no hope except replacing ur board.
[Touch GSM General] depakjan:
Dude... remove that ONYX rom thing.. it's got nothing to do with his ROM!!!... it's like blaming him .. it's probably your mistake the phone is dead... just put after downgrading to original rom why mention ONYX here.....
[Touch GSM General] masteripper:
About 2 weeks i posted a question about restoring my original rom after a test Upgrade.The answers i got "read more".

Well i think these kind responders should at least change the Wiki to depict the truth:

"if u upgrade ur device to another not official rom u can't go back to ur original rom not without risking destroying ur elf".

If u disagree please prove me wrong and help the poor man get his phone back.
[Touch GSM General] dsixda:
Three pages and you think nobody is helping the "poor man"?

If you installed Hard SPL, you will not risk destroying your Elf. This person used the white screen method to flash a ROM which cased the brick, which I agree is unfortunate, but if you read the guides properly you will realize the white screen method is only used to flash the Hard SPL. A lot of people, including myself, spent a lot of time writing these guides to make things easier for people here.

What is the name of this site? Right, xda-DEVELOPERS.com. This is not a site for people who are not technically literate or who are afraid to take a risk with their device. Just like any other hacking site you have to do a lot of reading on your own, not start pointing fingers to someone else when something goes wrong.
[Touch GSM General] anupam07ii:
i flash my elfin by using white screen method

i hav no compliants how cud u blame a rom or rom maker the person puts in so much effort if u cant appreciate person then plz dnt critise any1.
[Touch GSM General] masteripper:
I agree with all the above but there is always a but......leaving some spots unclear have its share on confusion and errors/mistakes..

We all here appreciate the developers and their extraordinary hard work make no mistake about it.Personally i am pretty high in computer literature (if u can call it like this) but the whole thing about PPC has some gray areas.
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
Let me make it clear to everyone...I didn't blame the ONYX, not every single post I mentioned about it. Please show me in logical way, not your feeling, which part I blamed Onyx?

Read the whole Post in this thread, read the whole discussion here ! Not just the last post!

Anyway, I've changed the title so you don't take it the wrong way!

Guys, how could you such think like that before you read the whole posts here?

The ROM is good, very nice and smooth. I even upgraded my friend's ELF to it (of course after I've been success to do it on mine) and it still run very well until now. Thanks to Dsixda to share it with all of us.

The mistake I made was that :

1. Indeed, I never change my SPL & IPL, please read the device info of my friend's ELF, of which, I upgraded with the same way and same method. I bypass the 3rd step straight to ROM Update Utility of Onyx.

2. Instead of I restored the dump-backup of my ROM which contains OS & ext ROM only, seems I made a terrible mistake by restore all the dumped-original ROM which contains all the properties (include OS, Ext ROM, GSM, IPL, MainSplash, SPL). Everything goes fine until 100%, the RUU said Congrats, the device then restart, and It don't go live until now.

3. Spreading my question on every thread here to get help on a panic situation seeing my ELF dead. Yes, dead, not dying! :D (again, thanks to dsixda to warn me, I didn't know your warning, and I did it before you warn me, check the time of the post,ok?) I even made an apologize for my stupid action.

So Please, read carefully what I posted and please do not make any misjudgement on my thread. Explaining something in detail doesn't mean to blame someone!

Dude, Please, I already have a problem with my device and don't add another problem by making me like some stupid people who blamed other people for the mistake that I did.

I didn't blame Onyx, OK?

I told you the story in detail, and I've got the mistake I did. This is a very good lesson to me and thanks to DSIXDA that showed what my mistake was, upgrading from white screen!

I even told the reason here, why I upgraded from white screen. read my previous post.

Thanks, and please, be peace on my thread. Sory if I posted lately, I left this thread on saturday and sunday for family business and just today I can access this thread.
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
I think I have did that one.

Please correct me if I'm wrong :

1. Press and Hold the camera button.

2. Press and Hold the reset button (the camera button still on hold).

3. Put in the battery.

I'm in the office now and I left my device at home, I'll try it as soon as I'm home.

Thanks:)
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
Unfortunately, I think I did that. I did it as I read the post in this link that mentioned like this (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom) :

Let me explain again why I bypass the third step by flasing directly to ONYX :

1. I run the Elf_uspl.exe from the package (ELF_TOOLS\TOOLS\USPL_2.28.0000 with IPL_2.27).

2. Step 1, Success.

3. Step 2, Success, the LCD on white screen.

4. Step 3, the RUU said that there's an error image on file.

5. I thought, I might did something wrong. So i reset the device, repeat the above step 1 till 3.

6. When It comes to step 3, I run the RUU of Onyx while my device still on the White Screen Mode

7. Finish, the Onyx Running well.

Please note : Using the above step, the ELF run normally. I even upgraded my friend's ELF with that way. For you to note, this is the device info after the ONYX run very well :

Steps when I restored the complete original dumped-ROM :

1. There's a folder name RUU in the package I downloaded (ELF_TOOLS\TOOLS\USPL_2.28.0000 with IPL_2.27\RUU).

2. There's a file named RUU_Signed.nbh in the above folder. Its size : 1,027Kb.

3. I renamed that to RUU_Signed1.nbh ( I thought by renamed it, the RUU will not use it).

4. Then I copied my complete-dump ROM into that folder, renamed it to RUU_Signed.nbh. Please note that, on the same folder, now there are two nbh files, one : RUU_Signed1.nbh (the original that came with the Tools I've downloaded), and the other RUU_Signed.nbh. One of the member of this forum, George (thanks for your info, Buddy!), seems that this may cause ny device got problem.

5. I run the Elf_USPL.exe from this folder : ELF_TOOLS\TOOLS\USPL_2.28.0000 with IPL_2.27

6. I completed until step 3, the RUU goes to 100%, and it said "Congrats and bla...bla..bla..."

7. The device reset, and it never goes ON till now.My question :

After discussion with Dsixda and show him the device info, he showed me that I didn't even change my IPL & SPL, even after I upgraded my ROM to Onyx. But, when I restored all the Original-dumped ROM, why did my device get to die?

Even if my device is dead now, at least, I will get a very nice lesson on this. Thanks to everyone who has helped me on this thread. Any comments about my above actions will be deeply appreciated, as I realize, hope that the mistake I made will be a great lesson to me especially, and to everyone who will flash their device.

Afterall, On the beginning of December I plan to go overseas to claim it and hopefully the HTC will replace my device. If so, then I will do this again in a correct way, so learning from this mistake is very important to me.
[Touch GSM General] anupam07ii:
htc provide international warranty have u tried contacting ur local htc service centre if u have the bills and the boxes etc of the entire set???

u might get a replace after a breif enquiry best of luck....:)
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
Unfortunately, I've came to the Local HTC Service here and they will charge me for it. Hopefully, in the country I purchased I will get the replacement. Thanks for the support :D
[Touch GSM General] ayyu3m:
did u read the pm i sent to you?
[Touch GSM General] bombom81:
I'm sorry, I didn't realize there's a PM for me. I've replied it. Thanks
[Touch GSM General] jack slate:
hi i have the Elf ,tried to change rom suddenly all went off it died and now no way to enter in bootloader or try mtty nothing at all

,just black screen and a green light of the batery gets on but nothing else event usb not detect .Any idea of how i can make it run again .I tried all of the post but nothing.

somebody help me plz.,.,.,.,.
[Touch GSM General] spxc:
Tnx everybody belthur's solution really helped me alot!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] TigzAU:
Hi this is a general enquiry,

im looking at advancing the WM2003 SE version of my "Harrier" the CDMA version of the Blue angel.

now CDMA no longer exists here so i dont want phone capabillities just everything else.

Is their an OS that works with the phone.

My phone information is as follows:

Rom Version: 2.03.00 WWE

Rom date: 12/15/04

Radio version: HA01_140

Protocol version: AA3.3.301

PRL version: 00205

EXTROM version: 2.03.111 WWE

hardware version: 0041

ESN: 3606FD0E

browser version: MSIE 6.0

CPU: intel PXA263

speed: 400MHZ

ram size: 128MB

flash size: 32MB

flash chip type: 28F128K3

Data bus:32 bits

Storage size: 14.57 MB

LCD: 240x320 TFT

Colors: 65536

Model: PH02A2

Platform: PocketPC

Running: WM2003 SE VER:-4.21.1088(build 14235.2.0.0)

Any help would be appreciated.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] cerjam:
wm2003 is the end of the line on the harrier, i've attempted to port WM5 but it hasnt worked very well sofar.

so for the moment, you're stuck with wm2003. sorribud.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] TigzAU:
Thanks Cerjam,

Have you tried to do it with WM6.5

Also how difficult is it to transfer back to the original WM2003 os if i try an upgrade on the unit?

Tigz
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] cmstackar:
Since there is no way to upgrade, there is no way to go back to wm2003. However on the BA(GSM) it is very easy. You would probably be better off getting a used one for like $45 on ebay
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Chef_Tony:
and also: flashing another os would not bring you any gsm functunality so it would be a pda only as soon as they stop cdma in your region, just like it will happen to you now on wm2003.

if, however, you were assuming, you could upgrade with a blueangel rom and forget about the radio, you are wrong. just like cmstackar said, if you like the blueangels general features and want another rom on top + gsm phone, you should probably get a real blueangel, with which you get all at once
[General Questions and Answers] manisar_24:
I am having wm 6.1 powered "imate ultimate 6150".

yesterday i hard resetted my device due to some storage problems.

but after resetting the device, the basic options in the start menu(such as settings,programs) vanished.now i am unable to master clear this device for the above reason.

the screen is not aligned properly too.

i dont know wt to do.pls,help me mobees :cry: ..................
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Gsm UK:
Hi all,

i have White SoftBank HERM200 custamer left phone for unlock, but when ..

i put simcard i get this message " youhave tried 40 times, please wait until timeout... :(

i put sim card and wait.. 2 days but no luck getting same message :(

is there any solution for unlock this phones ?

Thanks and best regards !!