yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] azr6:
That was it...thanks.

So removing teeter and the im program has been causing people issues? Don't need either of those. Btw...the op can be updated with all the new info through the thread.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] bbv203:
Almost no video loads on my phone, possibly something to do with removing SprinTV?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] CruzECO13:
I have successfully removed the following apps:

teeter.apk

teeter.odex

Sprint_TV.apk

Sprint_TVWidget.apk

Sprint_Navigator.apk

Sprint_Nscar.apk

Sprint_NFL.apk

amazonmp3.apk

DCSStock.apk

DCSStock.odex

Stock.apk

Stock.odex

rm com.htc.StockWidget.apk

rm com.htc.StockWidget.odex

HtcFootprints.apk

HtcFootprints.odex

HtcFootprintsWidget.apk

HtcFootprintsWidget.odex

LearnMore.apk

VoiceDialer.apk

VoiceDialer.odex

HtcSoundRecorder.apk

HtcSoundRecorder.odex

VoiceSearch.apk

VoiceSearch.odex

HtcRingtoneTrimmer.apk

HtcRingtoneTrimmer.odex

This is the amount of memory i have now have available after removing the above files:

/dev: 98412K total, 0K used, 98412K available (block size 4096)

/sqlite_stmt_journals: 4096K total, 4K used, 4092K available (block size 4096

/system: 174080K total, 146660K used, 27420K available (block size 4096)

/data: 163328K total, 69784K used, 93544K available (block size 4096)

/cache: 133120K total, 4824K used, 128296K available (block size 4096)

/sdcard: 1928992K total, 584640K used, 1344352K available (block size 32768)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] CruzECO13:
Any other apps confirmed to have been removed without any FC issues or errors??

Thanks in advance :D Happy Holidays!!
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Negrito:
I'm pretty sure that all those are safe to remove.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] bray424:
Removed Sprint_App_Updater.apk (I figured I didn't need it since I removed every other sprint app from the phone). An hour in, no force closes or any other sort of errors.

Would really love to figure out the filename of the HTC Sync app, since I know for certain I will never use it, and it seems to always run in the background.

Also, even after I was able to delete IM.apk and IM.odex (if OP wouldn't mind, my post saying those files broke gchat was wrong and related to something else, so that note can be removed) over two weeks ago, Settings>Applications>Manage>filter by running> tells me that not only is IM still running, but it's taking 10 megs of RAM (memory, not storage) to boot.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] vigus:
Can someone confirm success in removing the voicemail and what was the app name please?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] vigus:
Well I tried myself and I can confirm it, the voicemail is Sprint_Core.apk
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] nck4857:
You're still running smoothly after deleting the voicemail? What about Browser and HTC Mail, I believe these are good to delete, also...? (I use Dolphin & the Gmail app)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] nhs510:
I am getting a FC at bootup on the Google Voice app after removing the voice mail (Sprint_Core), so look out for that.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] nck4857:
I'm getting FC at bootup with the new GV and I still have the stock voicemail app on my phone..... GV works fine after that, it's just the first bootup for some reason....
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] nhs510:
Ah! I did take an update to Google Voice today. I forgot about that. So my deleting of the stock vm app probably has nothing to do with the GV issues. Thanks for your message.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] oohoy:
hi all,

read through all the posts and didnt find this. what are footprints ?

HtcFootprints.apk

HtcFootprints.odex

HtcFootprintsWidget.apk

HtcFootprintsWidget.odex

pretty sure i may remove em off my phone, but would like to know what they are for curiosity

tks

nm. just realized those didnt even come with the fresh rom that i got on my phone. only removed sprint nav and learn more
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] posguy99:
Except that it's not, of course. The Visual Voicemail application is com.coremobility.app.vnotes.apk.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] posguy99:
That's not the voicemail application.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] posguy99:
You won't ever plug the USB cable into the phone, and expect to mount the phone as a drive? Well, whatever floats your boat.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Hot Karl:
Based on all of the replies, are there any programs that can be added to the first post of this thread to update the original list?

Thanks.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] NewShockerGuy:
Anyone removed Weather?

I removed the following with No issues so far:

Amazon MP3

Footprints

Nascar

NFL

Peep/Twitter

Stocks

Teeter

Phone is noticably faster so who ever says plocebo... I don't buy it. I could go the programs screen and start scrolling and it was ALWAYS laggy... after this and rooting the phone I am happy at the speed when I flick my finger how much quicker it is.

What is the LearnMore.apk?

Also I noticed that when starting sdb on my computer it doesn't start a daemon as I've see everyone's else posts... yet I can still browse the file system and I can mount stuff to remove it..etc

Just wondering on that.

I also can't get push/pull to work?...?

Thanks,

-Nigel
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] obededom:
it's the Owners manual crap they put in there. confirmed ok to delete
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] NewShockerGuy:
People removing the quick office program what are you using instead?

Seems like a nice little program to me..?

Also, no one removed the HTC weather crap??? I am about to but noticed I didn't see anyone removing it...

-Nigel
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] diesel joe:
I removed all the Htc Weather Crap. I use TWC. And have not had any problems.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] iirawkusll:
Weather app

what weather apps did you remove exactly?

i've removed all files that had "weather" in it and it cause force close...
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] NewShockerGuy:
that's what I am afraid of as well.

I noticed that the Fresh Rom does not have the weather removed.

I use Weather channels widgets and what not so no use for HTC weather.

What all htc weather has been removed.

-Nigel
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Sporkman:
is the terminal on the pc or the Phone :D sorry no0b here
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] wtphoto:
you can run it through the cmd prompt on pc or through a terminal emulator from the market.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] aabbccddeeffgghh:
i didnt have problems. gumbo 1.5c.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Gregalous:
I believe you can delete the Weather.apk(.odex) and com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk(.odex) but not WeatherProvider.apk. I could be wrong though.

Also I deleted Sprint_Core.apk and have had no problems.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] NewShockerGuy:
Very good to know.. anyone know what the WeatherProvider.apk does on the phone?

Also what does Sprint_Core.apk do? I can't mount the phone and look but is it removed in Fresh1.1

Thanks,

-Nigel
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] RTessi:
Any updates on IM or Twitter? it seems like some have had success and other have not...

I tried all the IM apk and odexs last night on Pancake ROM and got FC on googleapps, so I kept them after a Nandroid restore...

R

* UPDATE - uninstalled the com.htc.twitterwidget.apk(odex) and all seems to be running fine... will post if anything changes though
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] NewShockerGuy:
You can delete the twitter. IM you can delete but I believe you have to keep the IMProvider.apk.

That's why you are getting the FC.

-Nigel
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] ktynchy1:
Yep i did it myself when i was running stock and everything was fine
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] NewShockerGuy:
Confirmed GOOD boot and usage after removal of:

Weather.apk(.odex) and com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk(.odex)

-Nigel
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] NewShockerGuy:
Anyone know what the widgets are called from HTC for the Photo Album and the Photo Frame. I want to get rid of those two...

Thinking of also killing HTC's people, messages and clock widget...

EDIT:

Wiped all that crap out...lol

So far so good.

Thanks,

-Nigel
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] ktynchy1:
try using the command "ls" it will give u the list of the system apps, the complete instructions are on another thread try looking for it
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Scuba1984:
I have removed Sprint TV, NASCAR, NFL, Footprints, Quick Office, Voice Dialer, and the Stocks app. I notice a big difference in speed...it's not laggy. However, my memory was at 52mb and after deleting all the above, it is still at 52mb. Did I not delete them correctly? I was hoping to see the memory increase.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] kratos313:
so far i have removed the following

Voice Dialer

Htc mail

Htc Twitter widgets

peep

stock Widget

Sprint TV

Sprint NFL

Sprint Nscar

I currently have about 125mb of space

running the Gumbo ROM Full 1.5c
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] posguy99:
No reason why you should. As has been endlessly documented in this very thread, those are all on /system, which has nothing to do with the /data filesystem where user applications are stored.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Scuba1984:
whoops... I went back and read all the pages and somehow missed the mini-discussion about it. Sorry for the inconvenience. ;)

Thanks everyone for the help with this! :D
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Sporkman:
device self service is what file on the hero ? i want it gone
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] NewShockerGuy:
Anyone know the difference between these programs?

DCSWeather.apk

Weather.apk / odex

WeatherProvider.apk / odex

I have removed Weather.apk/odex.

But curious about the other two in Bold.

I don't ever plan on using HTC's weather anything as I use TWC app.

Thanks,

-Nigel
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] NewShockerGuy:
Also what is Field Trial?

I didn't find anything about it.

I removed it in the data/data directories.

I freed up about 10mbs just in the data/data directory..lol

-Nigel
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Negrito:
Hey, i use a Macbook as my main computer, can i rm HTC Sync from my Hero? if so what's it called?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Negrito:
Anyone...?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] ejpyle:
i removed the following and started to get force close errors....any ideas why?

# rm LearnMore.odex
rm LearnMore.odex
# rm VoiceDialer.apk
rm VoiceDialer.apk
rm failed for VoiceDialer.apk, No such file or directory
# rm VoiceDialer.odex
rm VoiceDialer.odex
rm failed for VoiceDialer.odex, No such file or directory
# rm DCSStock.odex
rm DCSStock.odex
#
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] ejpyle:
Could someone PLEASE....zip these apps for me? I just realized I did not make a backup and the last time I tried flashing my old Hero I bricked it from a ROM I downloaded here.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] sinistermeshes:
i removed gmail and gmailprovider with no errors

didnt see the point with the native email appANDwidget

(use exchange, set download to "as items arrive" and it becomes pull)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] sinistermeshes:
im pretty sure its the DSSTOCK causing your fc

go dl any rom and pick it apart for it

;-)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] ejpyle:
I figured it out.... I removed DSStock.odex and left the DSSTock.apk. No more FC errors.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] ejpyle:
I have been trying to achieve this.. Thanks for making my day man... :D
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Droidish:
Great guide.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Rizzo19:
Where are the .odex files kept? I use root explorer since adb and me dont get along. :P
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] manlypowers:
using DamageControl 2.1 -- I am not able to remove odex files. I can remove the APKs no problem. Using ADB they are coming back "failed...No such file or directory. Would this be caused by my use of APS2D 2.5? maybe moving the location of the files?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Turdburglar:
There are no odex files in damagecontrol. They would be in /system/app (system/sd/app for a2sd) if there were. Some rom's are de-odexed....

command prompt...

cd C:\(your sdk\tools dir)

adb shell

cd /system/app

ls

will list files in that dir, don't remove anything unless you know you can.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] manlypowers:
Thanks, TB. :D
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] bigsc:
setup

I searched, and didnt see any reference to the setup app... the one where you setup your accounts when the phone first comes on... has anyone removed it with success ?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] Negrito:
i remove the HTC one after i setup my phone the first time, but left the vanilla one just in case.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] jj4201998:
When I go in the system/app all I see are .apk there are no .odex files in this directory. Am I missing something? Help please. Also, has anybody removed teh HtcNaviPanel.apk without any issues?
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] mslisaj:
I have Root Explorer and I have used that to carefully remove unwanted programs. But looking through this entire thread has anyone put together a list other then the one that is in the opening thread of absolute safe apps to remove. I did the easy listed ones but would love to keep going. Can someone recommend a place to find a list of safe apps? I would like to get rid of the original SMS message program as I used Handcent now. Anyway just looking for maybe one final list........

Thanks for your help..........

Lisa
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] rajbsn:
Hi,

I have been trying to find the official T-Mobile ROM for Touch Pro 2 and couldn't find it. Please help!!

Thx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tmotp2jc:
Here ya go
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] evan101198:
Nov 7, 2009. i installed the fonts changer for my zinc, because i was curious with the new fonts attaced on my xda. after installing the software and soft reset my zinc. the system font changed but unexpectedly all of my system changed too. i can't download and install through my pda, i can't either change my today screen with other themes. when i looked at the system, the OS has changed into WM5 previously from WM6. what should i do?
[General Questions and Answers] tittytwister:
I try to update the phone and use this Rom http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=408109 and my phone will not update. When I try to boot load it will show the colors then go right to Grey screen saying its loading and will not change. I have try put the nbh file into the internal storage root directory, i have tryed to run it directly from win zip using the ROM.exe file and nothing. I tried to hard spl to a unsigned version i get an error saying it can't read a file. Any Ideas ?? thanks.
[General Topics] thejesster:
i have made a rom, first time, i really want to try it out bad lol :( but it gives me the error of the zip not being signed :( can someone please help me sign i't or figure out how? please respond thanks!!!!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] thecodemonk:
well the "asroot" method of rooting from the guide in the CDMA forum may be worth trying...perhaps they haven't fixed the vulenrability?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581577 (all the way up to before the recovery image)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sweetdom:
Ya tried that method don't work
[Hero, G2 Touch General] nickdenis:
yeah I would love to root this thing.

To be honest this is my first smartphone and I'm new at this rooting thing. I did manage to throw on a hack for my ipod nano (colored version) :)

I'm loving this phone so far - got it first day they announced their new network. I'm so impressed

Did either of you buy another SD card? Where did you grab yours if you did?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] craig0r:
My Telus Hero has been rooted since Friday.

Check it:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4909063&postcount=16
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
Yeah I just saw. I'll get familiar with the process then update the first post.

Thanks a bunch!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] craig0r:
I posted in the other thread (so... sorry for the double post), but I think that this thread is more relevant to the question/issue of rooting.

Could someone who still has the stock Telus ROM post the Baseband version? (Home -> Settings -> About phone -> Baseband version)

I'm just curious as to whether we Telus users should upgrade or downgrade the radio version after rooting the phone, as I seem to be having dialing issues (long distance numbers require a "+" in front of the "1" or it won't connect.)

I dunno if this issue would be related to the radio, or to the fact that there are no North American locales selectable within the custom ROM.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] sjeffrey:
Stock Baseband

63.18.55.06DAU_6.35.08.20

Still wating to see how others are successful with rooting their Telus Hero.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Croptop:
Same here. My stock Telus Hero reports the same version as above (just to add to the data pool). I'll be watching this thread for more details on rooting.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ghettofreeryder:
I rooted using the goldcard>2.73.405>recovery>modaco2.9>IU baseband and it works no problem. I can dial 611, long distance numbers dont need a + or a 1 for that matter, and market enabler lets me buy paid apps. Device seems quicker. I had to try 3 different sd cards though. I know I was doing the first one wrong, but one of them definately did not work.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] craig0r:
I mentioned in the other Telus Hero thread that I updated my radio to the IU version, and my dialing issues have gone away. Thought I should mention it here as well. :P
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
I'm still waiting for a method that doesn't require calling Telus to fix settings though.

Say, is your Hero the black or white one? And, is it a HERO130 or a HERO100?

I keep getting an invalid model ID error when I try flashing the downgrade. Is that what you had the times it didn't work for you?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] craig0r:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the error I got when I didn't have a proper Gold Card. If you've tried the same SD card a number of times and it's still not working, maybe grab a cheap Sandisk 1GB card. That's what I used.

And you shouldn't have to call Telus, because I've already gone through the pain of figuring all this stuff out. Just make sure you grab the APN settings from the other thread, and update to the latest radio (IU) and you're good. A call to Telus was required because I couldn't receive MMS messages, but that had nothing to do with rooting the phone, I would've had to call them anyway.

When I look up "Model Number" in my phone's settings, it just says HTC Hero. So I dunno. The custom ROM probably did that. I guess.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] profets:
the model name might be written in the battery compartment area. i know on my htc tytn the name is there as "HERM200"

pretty sure it was mentioned that the telus hero is HERO130
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
As profets said, the model ID is under the battery. Mine says HERO130, and in bootloader mode, it says HERO13000. Since the downgrade ROM is for HERO10000, it threw an invalid model ID error.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] craig0r:
Ah cool. I just checked under the battery, it's a 130. So you should still be able to downgrade.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
Really strange. I tried a Kingston 2GB like they said on the guide and verified that the GoldCard image was well written on the card. Yet it still throws error 130.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ericlin0122:
I used the 2GB sd card comes with the phone to create goldcard. Rooted.

No problem at all, I don't know why you guys wanna use other SD cards.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
I'm pretty sure I've tried all my cards... I'll try again tonight.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
Hah! Got it to work. Guide is done.

I also quickly put together a webpage to reverse the CID of the microSD. That way, people won't need to download QMAT anymore. The page can be found here: http://hexrev.soaa.me

Enjoy!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ogg1e:
What do you mean you had to call telus to fix settings? What settings would that be?

I have an unlocked Hero on Bell right now, so I want to ensure I can still root it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
Actually, it was the first Telus rooter who had to call Telus to recover the APN settings. My guide takes into account backing up the APN settings, so you normally don't have to call the carrier to get the settings.

Thing is you're with Bell, so you'll need to get the APNs from them anyway.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ericlin0122:
this is a great guide for those new to Android. A+ thread.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tsekh501:
Is there anyway to dump the stock Telus Hero rom (the radio rom in particular) from a vanilla Telus Hero? It seems that to put nandroid onto the HERO130 one cannot avoid the downgrading process, at which point the stock rom is being erased.

Though craig0r said that he is running the IU radio rom on his HERO130 without any problem, I don't feel very comfortable putting a HERO100 radio rom on a HERO130 and would like to backup the stock Telus Hero rom before doing anything, just in case.

Any idea?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
There haven't been reported issues since updating to the latest IU radio. If you're not comfortable using that, there should be future updates from Telus, from which we can extract a Telus radio.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ogg1e:
Oh, APN. No problem there since Bell has them on their website.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ogg1e:
I'm still not 100% sure on everything here.

The radio and the ROM are seperate, correct?

Radio is used for connecting to the phone network, and the ROM is the actual android OS, correct?

So are we downgrading both?

If we downgrade the ROM, have we lost the senseUI? Are there ROMS out there that we can install that have the senseUI?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
Actually, the downgrade is just a slightly older version that has a security hole that allows us to flash a patched recovery image. The point of downgrading is only to exploit that security flaw.

Thing is, these official ROM packages always come with both the Android OS and the radio, and removing the radio will cause the RUU to freak out and reject the package. Thus, we cannot downgrade without flashing the radio.

Thankfully, the latest IU radio fixes any issues caused by the EU radio, and in the future, we will be able to extract the radio from Telus upgrades.

Also, the downgrade also has Sense. It's basically an older version of the official Hero ROM. You'll still want a custom ROM though, for root access and for a faster kernel. I recommend MoDaCo, which offers an experience similar to the official ROMs, but with a few perks.

In short, the process goes like this:

1. Downgrade to the ROM with the security flaw. Downgrades radio too.

2. Use flashrec to exploit the security flaw to flash the new recovery image.

3. Use the new recovery image to flash the new radio and ROM of your choice.

4. Re-enter your APN settings, set up your phone as you like, and go. :D
[Hero, G2 Touch General] pi3ch:
for Copy and Past in command shell prompts:

1. Simply right click on the shell

2. Select Mark

3. Mark the text that you want... it is automatically copy to your clipboard

then you CTRL + P anywhere you want to pase it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
Huh serious? I'll try it out and add it in the guide.

Hey thanks. It works.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ogg1e:
Ahh. I get it now.

So what ROM did you end up installing? I would assume it has the same or higher build number?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
I'm using MoDaCo 2.9, which is based on 2.73.405.61. It's slightly older than the official Telus build, but so far, it's just as stable, and a bit faster, thanks to kernel optimizations.

I'd recommend it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] ogg1e:
i'd love to see an android 2.0 custom rom for Hero. Let's hope one comes out soon.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Soaa-:
We're probably better off waiting for the official 2.0 update and make custom ROMs based on that. Android 2.0 requires a new kernel, and from what I've read, porting the HTC changes to the new kernel is too troublesome, and HTC will release it eventually anyway.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] bourdagespl:
Hi,

I've followed you procedure to root my TELUS Hero yesterday. I can'T say that everything was fine, because I had the "loop reboot" issue when i've flashed with the custom rom.

But in the end, everything is fine. I've installed MoDaCo 2.9. Pretty satisfied for now.

TY