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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] agrickard:
I know that this debate obviously stirs a lot of feelings (and venom by some!), but life is too short, surely? Saying that, I am a hypocrite through and through so here's my contribution!!

I understand the deliberations as I too considered an iphone before going getting a TP2 -it's like the devil's temptation - no matter for all the anti-iphone agruments, there is just something about it! However, some of the arguments for the iphone (i.e. responsive screen etc.) are now weaker than ever with the introduction of the HD2 with it's capacitive screen - even my TP2 seems more responsive since upgrade to WM6.5 (official - I've never been into flashing ROMs so can't comment on others) and only use the stylus for writing quick notes or the keyboard because it's there, which is why I chose the TP2 in the first place. A fairer comparison to the iphone would be TD2 or HD2 (sorry not familiar with non HTC devices) imo.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Methadras:
Well, what you have essentially described is the entire iLife product line.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Methadras:
Oh, they will. It will be Win7 mobile on their zPhone (Zune Phone). It's happening. Oh yes, it's happening.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] edmondt:
When it happens we might have to upgrade, cos the Touch Pro 2 may have limited multi-touch functionality.

I have been playing on the Tilt2 for a few days now, and I'm going to trade it in for an iPhone due to the application it has.

I gave it a fair go on the Tilt2, but the apps are too inconsistent to make full use of it. No D-Pad is a killer, no left right button; if only they put a blackberry perl thingy to replace the zoom bar.

I enjoy the screen resolution, its a beauty to look at. Many apps are not compatible on WVGA, SJPhone, X-Lite... I can go on and on... If you're going to say Fring, then I'd say sound comes out from the speaker phone, oh and iPhone also has Fring, along with many many other VOIP apps.

Granted there are many stupid apps on the iPhone, but Windows Mobile has the fart machine (http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/03/23/fart-machine-20-fart-application-for-windows-mobile.html), let's not even goto the games.

Unless developers come up with an extra 10,000 quality apps on Windows Mobile, there isn't going to be any fatal punch ~ Market Place apps are way too expensive, and the apps sucks (Why do I have to pay for fartmachine?).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GermanGuy:
Yawn. Enjoy your iPhone. See Ya.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ariel123:
ok dannyboy its obvious you are a follower because followers dont make decisions for them self they have others make decison for them.

the iphone is like the hitler of phones everyone who follows it is brian washed to think its the best idea ever created

when seriously it took the 3rd generation iphone to come out with video recording without having to jailbreak. Even DUMB phones come with video recording out of the package and look at the proccessor speed on the 3gs its no where near 528mhz.

come on dude your going to wait for the iphone 4g so you can video call

dont you see how many simple things apple leaves out so you can be fasinated when the new phone comes out

dont be fooled right now you sound like a girl asking her bff why should she give her exboyfriend another chance (oh daniella i need to be convinced that he has changed and he wont cheat on me again)

come on dude make up your mind and get on with your life because im pretty sure that theres plenty of other people on this forum that need help with roms and looking for a hard spl or other important things for their phones

not trying to make up their mind whether their red braw matches their pink thong
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GermanGuy:
Ok. I changed my mind. I have to get an iPhone. I just found an app that I cannot live without. Finally an app that can do the parenting for me.

"The Cry Translator® is an easy to use app that allows parents and caregivers to understand their baby’s first language – their cry. The Cry Translator can ease the anxiety of caring for a crying infant by helping parents and caregivers to quickly understand their child’s cry and immediately respond to the infant’s needs.

The Cry Translator quickly identifies the five distinct cries made by infants; hungry, sleepy, annoyed, stressed or bored. These five cries are universal to all babies regardless of culture or language.

To begin the translation, place the device (iPhone or iPod Touch with microphone) near the crying baby and touch the “Start” button. The translated response will be illuminated in less than 10 seconds with suggested tips to calm the infant available. The application also allows users to add emergency contacts from their address book for fast and easy access.

If the device is too far from the baby or there is significant background noise, an error message will appear asking you to begin the translation again."
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] edmondt:
Yup, I got an iphone too, I just find out that you can do Tethering with WIFI/Bluetooth/USB as well with MyWi

And bluetooth voice control actually works, where it was a hit or miss on a cooked WM6.5 rom :)

Jailbreaking it now... Good times ahead :)

I might be back someday when the apps get better on Windows Mobile :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
i told u all

iphone is not a weak device or junk but i will wait for my beloved microsoft to do some trick quickly!!

:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cproaudio:
Im sure you already know the pros and the cons of both phones. iphone needed 3 generations of sw/hw evolution and be jailbroken to do what a 3 year old WinMo could do out of the box then. BUT you cant deny that iphone's applications are superior to WiMo's of the same. WinMo may have more usable/productive apps than iphone but iphone apps of the same is far easier to use than WinMo. It took MS 9 years to realize that a finger is ALOT friendlier than a stylus. Where as iphone OS and apps are designed to be finger friendly from the get go. Now because Winmo has 9 years of stylus history, it collected 9 years worth of apps that require the use of stylus. Even now the official Winmo 6.5 is not all that finger friendly. I know because I have a Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5. I'm talking about the core OS such was the power setting and various other settings, like clickable boxes and tabs that are fundamental to Winmo6.5 not the apps that run on 6.5. WinMo 6.5.1 on the other hand has a better chance of competing with the iphones OSX as far as finger friendliness but we still have to deal with old apps that require stylus such as total commander. Also a lot of apps are not formatted to the 6.5.1's large bottom soft keys. Total commander and Rescos file browser's bottom part gets cut off by the large soft keys.

I too have seriously considered getting the iphone 3GS, not as my primary phone but as my backup phone so that I could shut my co-workers up about having a dumb iphone. Tilt 2 has been my primary phone since its announcement back in February. It was either the iphone or the C905a and guess what my backup phone is. If you cant figure out heres a hint. I pay $10.8 after discount for my unlimited data. Yeah, I chose a dumber one over the dumb one

We can debate til the 2000G SDS/WT (super duper S with turbo) comes out on which is better but only you can convince yourself to keep your TP2 or give it up and get an iphone.

What can an iphone do that WinMo cant and what can WinMo do that iphone cant? To be fair, compare both out of the box then compare the iphone jail broken against the Touch Pro 2 HardSPLed with custom ROM. If you make a list, TouchPro2 will win in both categories. To some, that may not be as important as having a pretty shiny phone. Oh wait, Touch Pro 2 is also pretty and shiny.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
though i agree with you about out of box thing but still being fair we hav to give it to apple for the fluidity of the OS

Win mo surely needs a solid upgrade!!

The greatest invention for apple wud be use of the Capacitive screen n multitouch

But just look at the apps, IM+ on iphone is so smooth but only if it had multitasking iphone wud hav won hands down in all segments!!

I seriously look upto microsoft to give me something as fluid as the ZUNE HD
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] matttytn2:
i have had htc phones runing winmo for years and i think this will be my last, once iphone is unloacked you can customise so much and there are thousands of themes for them my friend is running a manilla theme its looks spot on and even has weather and animated paper, it is super fast every time i show someone something on my winmo it ****s up every time its crashed frozen not working properly what ever rom i run what ever hardware it is currently on a brand new tp2 and its so naff and the games are very poor to the iphone.

they need to do something or i will turn to the dark side!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GermanGuy:
Am I in the right forum? I thought I was at Xda-developers, not at Applefanboy.com. We all know now that the iPhone is the greatest thing since sliced bread and that WinMo sucks. Can we move on? Listen. Things are the way they are. If you want to go with the iPhone, just leave but don't bother telling us over and over again how great of a phone it is and how bad WinMo is. BTW, I like the stylus.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Spike15:
All you toolbags realize this is a PHONE and a PDA it's not a PSP, right?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
u are the most confused guy here!!

u say you will buy iphone and now yelling at us!!

i hav forever maintained the same views!!

i love microsoft but not blindly!!

may b my disappointment may lead MS to think at least for their loyal fans!!

i love MS, i like tweaking, i still like the iphone but i hav ditched it in favour of MS
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
I Just Love to rip the Apple & Co. No matter how bad windows become ( they won't ) I will always stick to Windows !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
BOooooooooOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOO

Dude leave this forum not for you ! Then go join some pink coloured flashy apple forum ! Sheeesh ! :mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
Hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahaha hahahahahaha !

Love it !

Just rip this iphone thing !

So that no one dares to post about this iphone **** again on a Windows forum
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
You believe these **** apps they sell ????

Your really confused really really confused maybe you should get a symbian ! hahahahahahhahahhahahaha !

Agree !

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
They don't need to do any tricks they give their customers the lovely freedom to do anything weather you own the latest phone or a 5 year old you can just do anything ! ( well almost ! )

not like iphone only for dolls like barbies ! Whos nail's manicure will get spoilt if they use a stylus !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GermanGuy:
I was cracking a joke about getting an iPhone for that stupid iPhone app. I guess from now on I have to warn everyone when I crack a joke.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
no need to warn bro

just put a smiley

we hav brains since we know tweaking and using MS stuff!!!

:P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
LOL this was another joke ! relax mate no offense !

Dude chill !

Respect all, love all ! No offense to anyone !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
U need to chill bro

i was also kidding this time

LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GermanGuy:
Ok. Let's be strong, stick together and brace for the Apple/iPhone Tsunami. Together, we can make it. :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
WEll said bro

Lets face them!!!!!!!

WM7 bring it on
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kmahesh:
I am serious Apple fan. Surprisingly I fell in love with my Tpro with the way of customizing and being totally open - thanks to Arup for a solid ROM. After flashed probably 50 times this year and enjoyed the freedom, I really can't think of any other OS - I can't believe I just said this! My major complaint against HTC is their battery. My Tpro stinks in the battery life - even with zero minute talking - keeping the phone on for the whole day, i can get to 20% at the end of the day - I know to check and checked all programs that are running closed all that I dont need. If TP2 has similar batter life, I certainly dont want TP2. Can someone comment on battery life? I've heard that iPhone's battery is very good.

However, the look and feel of iPhone is irresistible; way too many apps for them and we look just stupid in front of them - can't argue - our only hope is that we get more apps soon for WimMo too. Even some decent and basic apps like wifi finders, yahoo messengers - not parlingo etc. Parlingo is just a consolation. Even web browser is pretty lame on winmo - iphone renders the page much better.

I think my appreciation for Apple ends with their machines and iPods - period. Like someone said, enterprise apps for iphone is only an after thought as its primary motive is to serve as a toy and multimedia gadget.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ariel123:
To all you iphony's please stop posting your confused feelings about whether or not you need a maxi pad or a playtex pearl tanpon

this is a MICROSOFT forum PLEASE move on with your life

and if you are still confused about what to do next with your life im pretty sure there's an app for that

so when you wake up tomorrow morning and you forget how to wipe your ass there is an app for that

when your car check engine light goes on there is an app for that also

so next time you forget what to do when a girl is laying with her legs spread right in front of you just tell her "hey hun just give me a sec there is an app for that"

iphone has pretty much an app for everyday basic needs

but there is an app that they have not yet managed to create

at the end of month when your wallet has a fly coming out of it

uhhh wait a sec............i think its called Ineedmoney or wait wait

ill just get back to get to you when there is an app for being broke

but hey who needs money next time your buddies invite you out for a drink

because who needs beers when you have Ibeer

i mean you might not have any friends by the end of the night but im pretty sure theres an app for that

yours truly

Ibasher
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] edmondt:
Did you smoke something? :) I couldn't understand you but I think you point is that there is an app for everything for iPhone. That's how Microsoft won last time during the 386/486 processor days; The processor was capable of playing some games, then everyone started buying computers with windows 3.1 for the games then come business applications.

The Windows OS won because of the amount of programs and selection, its all about choice.

I'm enjoying the iPhone still :) I installed tonnes of apps (50 in total games/apps/tweaks) cos I wanted to try them out, I was planning to do a hard reset when I'm done. But to my surprise, the iPhone is still very snappy, I haven't even restarted once where I would have gotten tonnes of errors and time for a new ROM if I was on WM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
Get OUT of this microsoft Forum ! And bite some apple !

Shooooo shoooo goooo !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
Okay cut it now lets get this damn iphone out of XDA ! Lets bloody kill it !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
Hell yeah !

We need to break this apple **** so bad that no one ever posts about apple again here !

FOR GOD'S SAKE THIS IS A MICROSOFT ! NOT A GOO GOO DOLL PHONE'S FORUM !

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:mad:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
bahahahahahahhahabahahahahahhahahahahhahhhhhhhhhahahahhahahahahahhahahaha

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Oh mAN i Fell Of the chair reading this !

Damn this ripped the Iphone apart like anything !

Bull**** all you apple people get out of here !

Well whatever may happen atleast bill gates doesn't go under hood when he is sick like Jobs !

What a ripper !

Cheers mate !

I would Pay to READ THAT if you'd charge !

But you ain't like Apple that you charge for everything !

Damn it was killer the line

MS: What features?

Apple: I can do video recording, high speed internet at 3G speed, sending and receiving multimedia message, voice control and cut & paste.

MS: really?? it took you 3 generations of evolution to do just that?

Apple: Yes. I work slow but When I add a feature to the iPhone, it's news to the world.

I take that as a no. How about multitasking?

Apple: I can multitask. I can play music and use the calculator at the same time.

Nokia: I can do the same too.

Apple: hey A and B are having a conversation so see your way out of it.

MS: No I mean real multitasking like play a movie in the background while editing excel file and reply a SMS and tethering to a laptop.

Apple: .....

MS: well??

Apple: Hold on I'm thinking.

Cheers mate !

Wow ! just ripped it apart gives me pleasure !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ariel123:
At no point was i trying to say ms has more apps then iphone i could careless how many apps iphone has. my point was that we dont have to pay for most of our apps and if you do there is alway someone willing to help out with a keygen or a crack because its not all about the money here

heck we even get good deals on our phones i got 2 tp2 for free with the last promo tmo was having

when was the last time apple gave you anything for free

the only thing you get is a phone and headphones in your box

i was surpprised to see the charger in the box

we have customer satisfaction here

so please get your unsatisfied ass out of here because if you really loved apple you wouldnt waste your time here you would be talking on an apple forum

oh yea and cproaudio that is some funny **** man LMAO AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA omg i couldnt stop laughing at work everyone just kept looking at me like wtf LOL AAAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH funny funny

goodtimes

goodtimes
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] トロワ:
if i could have a iphone 3gs on my sprint sero contract i would get that in a heartbeat. but i cant so i settled for the touch pro 2. i would have to say apples os on a iphone (not even the faster 3gs) is silk smooth in operation. android comes in close 2nd and dead last is windows moble. however skype voice app is for win mo and iphone not for android. so yeah.

i own a ipod touch 2nd generation and use it for my music movies internet browsing (on a decent browser) and no flash is better then flash light or whatever at least there is a app in the app store for free to view my ニコニコ動画 videos. yeah

mac os nativly suports multi languages including asian ones like 日本語　seamlessley.

getting my touch pro 2 to suport japanese took me forever and its still klunky and not working right.

scrolling and navagating my touch is ungodly fast with its touch censor that just works good... the touch pro 2 is like a push to touch style that is semi unresponsive when using fingers on it (no lightly flicking like on my ipod)

lowpower locking is finicky on the touch pro 2, on the ipod touch it works amazing.

i dont know what to say the only reasion i got a TP2 was because its basicly the highest end phone i could get remaining on sero. i like that 30$ a month for unlimited data, and 500 mins talking time unlimited text and evorything else.

not to mention quality of the sprint network in my area is supurb, no droped calls all calls sound good. maybe its just the phone but i like the audio of the calls better then even making a skype call.

i like sprint >.<
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] edmondt:
Um... you know the dark side has a crack appstore so you can install everything with a few clicks :)

Google keyword: installous

I wish WM7 gets better, I didn't mean to argue the whole point for starting this thread was to help me decide between Touch Pro 2 or the iPhone.

I had the Touch Pro 2 and felt it was good phone, good hardware, call quality etc. but I returned it because the application is limiting so I traded for an iPhone.

Being a long time WM user and being used to the WM ways of doing things, I didn't know what the hype is all about with the iPhone, until I own one now I can honestly say that it is an awesome platform... Appreciate people's comment to help with the decision.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ariel123:
SO PLEASE DO US A FAVOR AND GET THE F*CK OUT OF HERE WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR IPHONE GO CELEBRATE ON A IPHONE FORUM

Thank you and have a nice day

and you will not be missed

yours truely

Microsoft
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] madnish30:
I agree man ! All you iphone doll heads Get out out of here go out with your iphone and analyse **** like cougs, baby crys, farts ! Maybe tomorrow they will make an app to analyse **** !

This is a Microsoft lovers Forum So STOP getting your Ass busted here !

Go sleep with your apple !

Donate the TP2 to some luck man/woman !

You don't deserve it it seems !

NO OFFENSE

But your pissing us off ( atleast the ones who love microsoft truly )

And you started this thread on the Rhodium !

It shoould be at General Discussions !

Maybe Apple needs to make an App to teach you that eh ?

Bye bye !

PM a MOD to shut this thread now !

I repeat NO OFFENSE to anybody just frustrated !
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ariel123:
GOODBYE to all you Iphonys
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DaveShaw:
I read the first page and the last page, I'm not quite sure what happened in between, but this has gone waaay off-topic and is now a totally pointless discussion. They are only phones after all... ;)

Thread closed,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gahomaster:
After I use flashrec at first time to flash to AmonRA v1.2.2 custom recovery and install MCR Rom 2.6

for now............

I use it again to format to AmonRa v.1.2.3 but it fail...

Its say "Could not run command"

what happen....

any alternative to flash recovery... and why i can use Flashrec

PS. Flashrec which i use is Latest Ver.

Thank you
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brettlzz:
here mate try this link

http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-flash-a-new-recovery-image-if-you-are-already-rooted/

it worked for me no worries.. cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Raggeh:
Hi all,

I've recently downloaded the Voda WM6.5 ROM - but before I upgrade I'd like to know if it's possible to get the HTC stock theme just like we were able to do for the WM6.1 ROM? I get on with Voda's attempt, just not with their grim red theme. If I can't change it to stock HTC then I'll probably not upgrade...

Cheers!

Rag.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gringolian:
Why not HSPL your phone and flash a new ROM entirely? That is what I have done on my vodafone TP2 and I now have no horrible vodafone theme or software!

have a read of this if you are unsure what I mean!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550540
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Allen Mead:
Yes, I have put one togther.

Definately the best way to go but not everyone wants to go down this route for various reasons. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Raggeh:
Gringolian - I'll probably do that in the end once I've plucked up the courage. I'll also need to figure out what ROM is best to use.

Thanks Allen - where can I get hold of that please? :)

Cheers,

Rag.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] InkZ:
The 6.5 Vodafone theme is much better than the 6.1 one. They've sorted the black on red etc. Definately worth the upgrade for that alone. I'd upgrade to the Voda one personally rather than SPL if you're not interested in running cooked roms. If you don't like it you can always SPL after.