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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] Hamsteriel:
I wish I knew as well. I hate when I forget to turn off the vibrate setting, and I will be in the middle of a conversation, and with every new text the phone will leap from my hands. Weaker is not necessary, just shorter vibration length.

Side note; after reading though this thread, I have decided there is a vast segment of society that needs to learn the difference between sarcasm and wit.

Edit:

Hey, look what I just found! I haven't tried it, I found it when I was googling WVGA WinMo games...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=450256
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] MasterDecker:
I think, for the first time, HTC has designed a phone for men & women. While most women prefer a nice iPhone or other dainty phones. They realized, HEY women might buy our phones if we up the anti on the silent alerts on our phones.

(YES more sarcasim for you....well you started it.)

I will do some digging around to see if there is a registry edit for the vibration settings. I'll let you know what I come up with when / if I do.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] nartecurb:
Maybe if you try creating this file in the registry and add it might work...

HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\VIB

STRENGTH_LOW set to 1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] MC-Bechtmann:
I have created a mirror for german WM6.5 on Rapidshare.

German WM6.5 Rapidshare
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lordbein:
thx! how is the experience so far?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thug_life_inc:
Hi all,

I believe this issue is ROM related that is why I am starting the thread here.

Issue:

CorePlayer starts lagging, dropping frames and is getting the audio out of sync on all Windows Mobile 6.5 ROMs which I have tried, including NRGZ28's 6.5 and 6.5.1 ROMS as we all now his ROMs are one of the best.

Currently I am running stock Windows Mobile 6.5 5.2.21854 (Build 21854.5.0.80) same issue - however if I turn off the TouchFlo 3d (Manila 2.1) all works fine.

Tried using cleanRAM - no good.

Any advice or help on this will be highly appreciated and I believe not only for me ;)

Regards to all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] tech_e:
I never wanted to run a cooked rom before the official 6.5 upgrade came because on WM6.1 my Rhodium played normal 700MB Divx files quite good, while a friend that had been running every unofficial 6.5 rom had very poor playback/ image tearing, and the images looked very rasterized when filling the whole screen even though the same video on my phone running official HTC 6.1 rom looked very good.

He tried installing all of the drivers available like ati, neo driver pack, exc, but nothing worked. I figured that it was probably due to the cooked roms.

So after the official 6.5 upgrade came out I switched and ever since my video playback is bad, the images tear, and look really rasterized.

I now think that the poor video playback is either:

A.) some software/ drivers that were in the official 6.1 rom but are not in the 6.5 rom

or

B.) something in coreplayer is not working with windows phone 6.5 causing it to run very badly on 6.5.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venelar:
look in the Rhodium Software section, not rom section. there are tips for coreplayer playback
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TR_Maniac:
I traced the problem back to Touchflo3d after trying different things. When I turn off touchflo3d it works without lagging etc. It's a work around I always use whan I want to playback a movie in Coreplayer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thug_life_inc:
I new there would be others having the same issues. it is not the core player - I tried all suggestions, switchin qtv to gdi, larger buffer size - no good. it must be the 6.5 and what drivers it comes with. that is why I am writing here as the cooks now what they put in their drivers and might now what can fix this. what I assume is the ne manila 2.1 eating too much resources, because when switched off - core player works like e charm.

It is a workaround but everybody knows its a pain in the a** to turn off touchflo3d to play a movie and then switch it back on after that.

So, dear Cooks, enlight us with your knowledge, please :)

Regards to all
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] true2you:
this only thing made me hate myself for trusting htc again (1st, p3300 with poor hardware for full price)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hypersonicx:
I have the same problem and Im on the 6.5 roms. Coreplayer does not play anything smooth at all. I was forced to encode my music videos and watch them in WMP but is there a solution to coreplayer yet?

I tried playing around with all the settings (GDI , DirectDraw, QTV,) tried everything on the 6.5 roms and its a no go.

I even tried to flash back to a 6.1 rom but phone hung on boot screen so I had to force bootloader and go back to 6.5 rom. hmmm...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Extreme184X:
By observation,

when you occupy memory higher than 50%, Core player tends to Lag and look funny, that's why when you disable touchflo3D (takes about 7-8% on memory), video's can play normal and look normal. When I had the default stock rom , i managed to disable many things thru the registry and brought the 44% down to 26% which allowed me to leave touchflo3D on and use core player with any issues. but now that im in wm6.5 currently having issues trying to disable stuff to bring down memory.

Long story short - Maintain your memory about 46% or less and core player will play and look perfectly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hypersonicx:
Im still not sure what the problem is. I managed to go back to TMobile stock rom and disabled touchflow 3d on wm6.1 still cant get any video to play smooth.

The videos im testing are mp4 with 800kbit bitrate at native resoulution also at 25fps and still choppy.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chrisrj28:
You know this should go into the General section but as to an answer I read that Coreplayer does have a driver issue with WM6.5 and they have to update their software. But to get good playing videos why not just use the WM6.5 stock video player. You can use it by selecting a video through albums. It plays everything just fine. I have a Blu-Ray rip Transformers 2 movie that is 1.48gb and it plays perfectly
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hypersonicx:
Do you happen to know the video bitrate of the blu-ray rip? Im curious of the highest video bitrate possible on the touchpro2 with smooth playback.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
It is a video driver issue in this case. Same amount of memory with or without TF3D - lag occurs with TF3D and no lag without. It is only confined to the TP2 and WM6.5 because the Pure doesn't experience any lag with TF3D.

I noticed it with the ATT stock rom and the newer Manilla 2.5 based roms. It must be some conflict with the video drivers. Manilla is winning the conflict.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lilchip85:
i have core player and i never experienced a lag even with tf3d on
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hypersonicx:
Which version of core player you use? and which rom you on?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venelar:
i play everything with the default album. it allows hardware acceleration and handles mp4 and h.264 perfectly. someone in the blackstone forum even made a wvga converter that works perfectly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
And more importantly what video setting do you have and what sort of videos are you playing? The issue involves QTv and I am sure anything higher than 320x240 with decent bit rates. As I mentioned before QTv appears to be the issue.

I remember reading some stuff from Betaboy (I think that is his name) on the video driver issues with the Qualcomm devices and TF3D is the only program to take full advantage of the video chip. At some point something broke with the TP2, WM6.5 and TF3D.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] lilchip85:
Touch X "SENSE 2.0B" is the rom i was running. my core player says "v1.3.5 build 7340 for ARM"

i thought i had a a bigger size but i didn't.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] phony:
same problem

I am having the same problem with all ROMs

in 6.1, no problems playing, anything higher on ANY ROM and it starts to lag.

I personally can't use the built in player as I play divx and mp4 files, and windows media player does not seem to like those.

I have Core Player 1.3.2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thug_life_inc:
I am running Core Player 1.3.6 - same problem, I was on 1.3.5 with ROMs 6.1 and it was happy, now ... I have to turn off TF3D.

And people, understand that we want to play DIVX and XVID files (AVIs) downloaded directly, I am sick converting files and thinking which will be the best resolution, bit rate, etc ....

I hope you understand.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] TR_Maniac:
The Dutch stock 6.1 rom has absolutely no problems with coreplayer. Stock 6.5 gives me sometimes smooth playback, sometimes not. I watch divx/xvid with SD resolutions.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyj71:
That may be your problem: The resolutions are wrong on an unconverted movie. A friend had a PSP and couldn't play MP4 or so he thought. He would put movies on there and get an error saying this file is unsupported. I looked at the file and it was the resolution that was unsupported. Since I assume your divx files are TV resolution,Coreplayer is trying change it to output to WVGA. Someone that is more tech savy can explain it better, but I have had this experience fist hand.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyj71:
BTW, I don't know how you are getting your divx and xvid files. If you..um..get them like I do then you can just search for MP4 versions and download that. All the work has been done. That's the one good thing about having so many Ipod/Iphone users. Every movie/TV show has been converted. Most Iphone people use Handbrake to convert the movies and that program makes amazing conversions. I use it also, but I found a faster converter for my Tilt 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
True, but I know from experience the same resolution that worked fine before no longer works on the ATT TP2 using TF3D. Plus, the same videos work fine on my ATT Pure using TF3D. For example 640x360 videos now lag on the TP2 but run without skipping frames on the Pure. Coreplayer can handle it. It is the device.

Stretching or zooming is part of the problem. If I run the video at 100% it doesn't skip frames. Once I zoom it does. Again, the Pure doesn't have this problem so the focus is on a software conflict with Coreplayer and TF3D. Plain and simple.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyj71:
Ok, I don't have a Pure so I'll take your word on that. Why are you zooming the video on your Tilt 2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] nkawtg:
I can confirm this. I have both the Pure and the Tilt2. Videos are unplayable on the Tilt2 but play great on the Pure. I'm running Dutty's R0 on the Pure and NRG's 2.5 ROM on the Tilt2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
I zoom to take advantage of the whole screen. 640x360 looks rather small on the large screen if I leave it at 100%.

I rarely play any videos past 640 horizontal resolution. I don't think Coreplayer can handle it general under the QTv driver. Frame skips, etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyj71:
Ok, That's what I thought. I have Coreplayer v 1.36. There is an option for fit to screen as well as best fit option. Can't remeber if it's in all version. Maybe you can try that. My videos are in WVGA format exactly, but I have best fit selected.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
I go with the "Fit Best" option. I am using the previous release since I noticed more frame skips with 1.36 on some videos so 1.36 might have some additional options or wordings different from the 1.32 release. All I know is 1.36 wasn't any better on the Tilt2 based on my experience. I tried it a second time just to be sure. But maybe I should try it again since I do not recall the two different options. Thanks for the tip.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RemE:
I'm a long time Core (and before) user, currently running Core v1.3.6 build 7427 on my Tilt-2. I've always made my own content, Divx, 320 x240, audio stereo 96Kbps and total bitrates around 475Kbps. These videos play flawlessly on the Tilt-2 on both the stock ATT rom and now on an EnergyRom. I play on the "fill screen" option and get full screen video and don't have to kill manilla. The video quality is very good still, Core's benchmark with this setup is 138.37% average, I get no dropped frames.

Bottom line, it's easily possible to have a very good movie experience if you encode your videos with a total bitrate under 500Kbps. Even though I have higher rez players (Archos etc.) I'm totally happy with these results and watch most all of my movies this way when travelling.

My 2 cents.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] hani1:
what program do you use to convert the videos?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
True, but why with every generation of WinMo phones do we have to step back on quality? We have a screen capable of HD viewing but to get any decent performance we have to encode videos for 320x240? Even my old XDA phone can run VGA without barely skipping a frame.

Not to go off topic but that shouldn't be the answer. Something is broken and it just needs to be identified and hopefully fixed. Or you just shut off TF3D and watch your videos.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] ptgptg:
Care to share your rip?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] b16b:
in my rom video is smooth even with 69% used ram i do not test it with less free ram

all that on wm6.5

but on latest wm6.5.1 2308x have smooth video only after reset.. otherwise i have lag but this happen from 23080 and after that means something new change the speed.. or ram usage.. but still beta and htc have drivers for 6.5 not 6.5.1 we will be waiting for the final release of wm6.5.1

but on wm6.5 the video is more than best... (i speak for my roms)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyj71:
What step back in quality? My nephews have Iphone and Ipod Touch. I have to encode the movies for them. Three of my buddies have PSPs, they have to encode movies for them as well. This "something is broken" **** is getting old. It's a PHONE!! It plays video, but you have to encode it. Damn people are doing this everyday for hundreds of other devices. Seems like you need to get the Omnia. It is DIVX certified. That's why people pay divx to get the certification. Even with that being said, the company still have pay for the certification with every new release. Another friend has a PS3. He wanted to keep all has video and anime on the PS3(Don't ask me why). The PS3 is Divx certified, but it didn't handle .mkv well. Even though Divx released a new version that handle .mkv. At the time Sony hadn't renewed their certification, so he had to use converters and media streamers to watch .mkvs through his PS3. People move on.

I have a mp3 player. It doesn't play flac. I can sit here and moan or I can just convert to mp3. Both are music. So if the company says it can play music, than they are correct. Many people are hear to help. There are about four threads with converters on here you can use to get WVGA and not QVGA.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
Well, considering I could take any video and throw it at my iPAQ HX4700 without any additional encoding - a PDA from five years ago - tells me something is broken and yes, a step back in quality. PDAs from previous generations performing better than phones being released today not considered a 'step back'? And no, I don't need an Omnia. I want something that works like it did with every other phone until this one, thank you.

And while I understand the need to encode videos for newer devices or devices using lower resolution screens like the I-crap stuff I would think that VGA videos should work fine on the Fuze or Tilt2. Again, these are videos that run fluid on the VGA hx4700. But with the Qualcomm chip I still needed to recode them to 512x384 to run them without skipping a frame. So I am familiar with the need to recode. But to recode again for something that broke with WM6.5 and TF3D? Now that is a step back. Some people are more accepting of these shortcomings. Some are not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thug_life_inc:
Hey Benny, Touch Pro 2 is build to play DivX freely. Why bother converting videos? I had a PSP and yes I converted videos, but that's only because it is limited to mp4 format only and to a certain resolution 470x272 or something like that.

Read here, under 'Video supported formats':

http://www.htc.com/europe/product/touchpro2/specification.html

No hard feelings.

Regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyj71:
Nah no hard feelings. The link just says .avi. It doesn't say unconverted file. That's what I'm saying. You can make different size .avi. Oh Dario69, I had an Archos player from five years ago that played every format there was. I would download files and throw them on there with no problem. It came with video out cables and a dock. You could even use it as a DVR. This way different from an Ipod or Zune. I can't fault Apple because they don't do what the Archos did. I either accept what it is or I get something else. There are always better options
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RemE:
I use PocketDivxEncoder (PDXE) or Lathe to encode my videos. As I said, I love to watch videos on the road, I encode at 320x240 because there is a diminishing return on these small screens anyway so I trade a bit of quality for smaller file sizes, I carry 10-15 movies on my phone (16GB card) along with my CoPilot Live and some music.

I have an HP Hx4700, still one of the best 4" diagonal VGA PDA's ever made (except for the piece of crap d-pad) and I still use it as my in-home SlingBox WiFi Streamer. This PDA screams because it's running the old ram based WM2003 which is super fast. I waited a year for the WM5 flash for it, and when I installed it the PDA was hobbled into a dog. I flashed back to stock, blasted HP for yet another turd and never bought another PDA from them as the phones were just good enough (8125) to do it all. It's taken years for flash based PDA's to catch up to the old WM2003 PDA's performance frankly, but flash based devices are critical in a mobile use model where batteries die and data loss can't be tollerated.

Anyway, I'm a very happy mobile movie viewer. If I can read the movie credits on a TyTN II and now easily read them on the Tilt II, then any finer resolution is really just wasted storage space. I made the 320x240 decision many years ago in road testing and have zero regrets and spend zero time re-encoding to fit the max allowed threshold per device.

I was super pissed back when we found out that HTC screwed us on the video drivers for the tilt, but more on principal. Now, I've got better things to do as they do fine with what I use.

Again, my 2 cents. Out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] chrisrj28:
Well I have had no issues playing anything using the stock player, When Coreplayer properly uses hardware acceleration then I will switch back. Im not sure of the bitrate for that file but I know that it's high as the file is a Blu-Ray rip and a simple conversion to H.264 MP4. It is DVD quality on my phone and I have no issues playing it.

And ptgptg check your pm
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thug_life_inc:
Here is some closure.

The solution for the moment is only one:

Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

CE OS 5.2.21048 (Build 21048.1.6.3)

Funny or not, this is the only STABLE and BUGFREE, I repeat THE ONLY, ROM there is. Running CorePlayer while at even 82% does not make any troubles, playback is flawless.... so ... think for yourself what ROMs you flash and whether you need them at all...

Regards to all and I guess this thread can be closed.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] japper88:
Damn I hope coreplayer releases an update to fix this...

At least for now I can live with disabling Manila 2.1, since whenever I plan to watch a video it's usually for at least 30 minutes.

UPDATE: so it's definitely a memory issue, after a soft reset (with 77.1mb of ram available) if I play coreplayer even with manila 2.1 (using a wm6.5 rom) on it plays flawlessly. However, after a soft reset and I try to run anything (even after using cleanram my available ram is at the most 73mb) then try to run coreplayer, coreplayer will run all jacked up. So I am going to try a different rom that leaves me with more free available ram, cause it looks like if I have 77mb of ram free I can run coreplayer without having to disable manila 2.1.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dindin223:
I'm thinking of switching back to 6.1 for the performance, come to think of it I don't really need any of the "new" 6.5 features, and all my custom software works happily in 6.1.

can someone please recommend me a good stable & fast 6.1 rom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Vertigo1md1032:
Quick Update...

I'm using NRG's 21877 rom with my stock ATT Radio. Memory usage fluctuates and I've checked it while using the most simultaneous apps possible (within reason- like 4 or 5). I have an older version of CorePlayer 1.3.0 and WM6.5 (which is NRG's brand of choice these days). Long story even longer-

I have zero problems with it. Let me know if someone needs more details on something and I'll post them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] japper88:
I'm guessing you have a Tilt2, otherwise you could just go back to your carrier's stock 6.1 rom?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] volganevariver:
I've noticed that coreplayer plays the very first file after reboot without lags even with TF3D running, but if only i open another file - picture is like slide show and quality is bad! ... and it may be 50% of memory free - it's lagging anyway! ... so i either reboot after every video file or turn off TF3D ... rrrrrrr!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] bennyj71:
Ok.. What version of CorePlayer are you guys using? I always keep the latest version and don't have these problems.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] dario69:
It is not the version of Coreplayer. It involves TP2's with the latest TF3D and WM6.5 - that combination. Turn off TF3D and the problem goes away. Movies are silky smooth.

Multiple threads exist on this issue. I have tried the latest back to 1.24 or whatever version started support for the Qualcomm chip. Same problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] spiderpumpkin:
I've been using GFXBoost with Coreplayer and playback is much smoother now.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=509704
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] japper88:
I use that too. The issue seems to be wm6.5+Manila = bad image quality during playback.

Anyone know how to make a script so I can click on a shortcut that will turn off Manila and open coreplayer, and when I close coreplayer it will open Manila back up?