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[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
yeah, that case looks expensive... but i don`t think (my eye is not professional) that it is made from leather...

and one BIG subjective thing... when i had it in my pocket, few times i thought that i lost my phone... it is heavy, it is big, but shape is great... you won`t feel it :) so it still is POCKET pc :) i felt it only when it was in that case... but still very pocketable :)
[HD2 General] Reason4444:
20mihalko; Congratulations, dreams come true for you ... :)

Some questions;

1 - What do you say about screen responsivity ?

2 - Is the screen has a oleophobic coating ?

3 - External speaker sound quality & phone loudspeaker volume is decent ??
[HD2 General] manuelcalavera:
any confirmation about having usb-host ?
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
1- screen is VERY i mean VERY responsible... it takes time to have it in hand... is very hard to type first few letters correctly.. it is big difference between resistive and capacitive screens... but after few hours, is it ok... typing is easy, and fast :) i should try fingerkeyboard...

2- i`m not sure what is it, but screen was dirty very soon :( but it is very easy to clean it...

3- external speaker is loud, quality is good (subjective opinion)

it has wifi router, micro USB and standar HTC USB to PC
[HD2 General] tibursio:
can you make a screenshot of the RAM/ROM screen (all the info about ROM/RAM/Version etc.)?
[HD2 General] navid_k:
I have the same question. any confirmation ?!
[HD2 General] deyanp:
digital compass in google maps?

Is the digital compass used in google maps? Do you see which direction you are facing in Google Maps?
[HD2 General] kersh:
+1

If doesnt work in google maps, it will be a big FAIL of htc.
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
i dont`t know how to test usb host... so i can`t confirm it right now...

here are some photos about software, i don`t want install programs for just one use...
[HD2 General] hmo66:
Watch first **REAL** unboxing video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLjD0x8_TR8
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
compass doesn`t work, but i think it is only matter of time... i don`t see any enable compass in google maps menu..
[HD2 General] Timbojames:
i have never seen it work in google maps (or any other program besides the compass programd that comes with the phone). I'm curious in what other programs it works.
[HD2 General] Reason4444:
From manual page 232;

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You can choose a location you want to go to in Google Maps and then

navigate there using the compass. You need an active Wi-Fi or data

connection to use Google Maps.

1. On the compass screen, tap Set Destination. Google Maps opens.

2. Press and hold your desired destination on the map. Google

Maps closes and the compass is displayed again. The green dot

on the compass bezel indicates the direction of the destination

you selected. The distance to your destination is displayed at the

bottom of the screen.

Tip To change the units used to display the distance to your destination,

tap Menu > Metric/Imperial.

3. Turn with the phone so the green dot on the compass bezel

aligns with the upper end of the red line on the compass.

4. Travel in the direction of the green dot towards your destination.

The distance to your destination displayed at the bottom of the

screen will decrease as you get closer.

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[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
ok, i`m going to try...
[HD2 General] jackleung:
Thanks. Do you know if it's broadcom or Microsoft bluetooth stack? What A2DP headset did you try? Does it have the HTC famous A2DP drop after phone call issue?

Thanks again.
[HD2 General] Ruudfood:
I have a question about SMS: have you imported many messages using PIM Backup or MS MyPhone? If so, how does it handle thousands of messages and hundreds of messages from an individual when you're replying?

(I've used the Leo ROM on my SE X1 and when it comes to SMS it runs like a dog. Just wondered if it was because of the X1s slow(er) processor or because of the way Leo handles displaying of messages.)
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
i don`t have any drop issue after call ends... and sorry about that profile, but htc totally changed settings pages so i can`t get into needed page... i will need some time for that... and that compass works... not straight in google maps, but in compass app i see green dot like in manual... still quite usefull... but better it will be straight in google maps... hope htc and google cooperation will last :D
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
sorry i haven`t imported any sms... offtopic: snaprdragon works very well in mail app... it is smooth even in many images in html mail... but pinch to zoom doesn`t works very well there... but #2 it isn`t needed there because of large display :)
[HD2 General] kersh:
WTF is that bull**** compass?

That is a **** unusable stupid and ridiculous from HTC.

Seriously, what a disaster this company, they never launch a phone without incredibles and stupid decissions like drivers or apis to work with nice hardware features.
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
compass can be a usefull thing at navigation... and next, it is needed for wm7
[HD2 General] timewyrm:
Any major gripe or dislike with the phone so far ?
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
display is dirty very fast... but it was same on my diamond... i don`t like HTC`s customization in deep settings, i can`t orient there now.. and photos are blured with flash, so it is hard to make photo in dark.. that is everything right now... it is a great device :)
[HD2 General] Ben86:
seriously, who wants that phone just because the digital compass? this app/function is as useless as it is on the iphone. its the first time htc brought us a speedy gonzales in mobile phones, so lets celebrate it :D

btw most Software problems will be solved soon by htc itself or if they try to keep functions for a next model someone will post it here for the hd2 :)
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
hey guys really... compass doesn`t matter... it has 4.3 display and snapdragon! btw.. i was prepared for huge display, but i was shocked with the size :) but i thing this is subjective very much, because i had diamond `till 15:00...
[HD2 General] Ben86:
hehe thats exactly the way i think about it. atm i still have my old diamond and i really like it because its small and looking nice (and you can use it for exams xD ). But the diamond is slow (cam, pics, etc.) and the the videos ive watched about the hd2 makes me drivel :eek: so main reason for the hd2 is the speed. i wish there was a diamond with such speed :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] xmoo:
How is battery life yet?

You think the screen can get scratched fast or is it a glass screen like Iphone?
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
when you will see that display live, that will be next thing why to buy it :)
[HD2 General] 3mL:
How does the phone feels in your pockets? Is it a problem to use the phone with one hand only? Does the phone play .avi movies?

Sincerely
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
i can`t say anything abou battery life... i had it for a few hours, battery wasn`t fully charged (50%), but now it is on charger with about 10% (after 6 hours)...

it plays avi files...

in pocket it feel very good, it is actually better like diamond... few times i thought i lost it... only when you will put it to the leather case, you can feel it :)

i have big hands, but it is not very easy to use it in one hand... but i can imagine that with wm 6.5.1 it will be lot better... because it is problem to control upper part of display when you are holding it just in one hand...
[HD2 General] xmoo:
So the capacitive screen works good with people with thick fingers and big hands :D?
[HD2 General] Ben86:
@20mihalko: thx for your live review :)

looking forward to see pictures captured with sunlight ... good night
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
you need to use that for few hours to have it "in hand" tomorrov i will make some pics in sunlight... but `till i have tons of work :( have a good night guys
[HD2 General] kb0n:
Hehe, congrats! You just got yourself a full-time job :D

Seriously, congrats on that device =) And thanks a lot for the pictures, very nice!

How big is the pouch compared to the device? Does it make it much larger?

What's inside of the pouch? Something soft that cleans display a little bit?
[HD2 General] Belzebuth.:
A BIG BIG THANKS 20mihalko...:D

Thank you for sharing your first moments with this device...;)
[HD2 General] galaxys:
Congratz 20mihalko! Let us know how that great screen looks out in the sun after a good nights rest:cool:
[HD2 General] cribeiro:
Does Notes app work on HD2 ?

As an engineer, I usually take notes by hand and make small drawings in Notes app using the stylus in my Pro2.

Will Notes work on HD2 without stylus or will it be possible using the finger? Even to write small letters by hand as I can using stylus?

Thanks
[HD2 General] daming:
can u upload some pictures?

can you tell us what is included in? please show us some pictures .

THX
[HD2 General] hmo66:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=580749
[HD2 General] xmoo:
On capacitive screens stylus don't work.

Does the My Locatoin work trough data, or does it need wifi to work?
[HD2 General] DaveLeh:
Hallo, congratulations and thanks for all your informations.

I wanted to ask if the earphones you got with the retail package are the ones with hardware buttons for forward and play and backwards and a volume rocker? Couldn't exactly see that on the photo.

Thx & hf with your HD2! :)
[HD2 General] Ben86:
thats just kind of correct. there is a stylus for the iphone you can buy. it differs compared to a typical windows mobile stylus and ive never tryed it but if you want to try check for "stylus iphone" on ebay.
[HD2 General] BigViking:
Screen Protector

Is there a screen protector enclosed?
[HD2 General] zekounet:
Thanks 20mihalko.

Little question : is it possible to disable sense ui (in settings/today) so we can use spb 3.5 ?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Yes, it is!
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
good morning :)

yes, uyo can distable htc sense in today settings....

it is impossible to write notes without stylus... you must use keyboard...

pouch is doing it little bit bigger, but big difference is, that it has another shape... so you can feel it in pocket... yes, it is soft inside, and it is cleaning display :)

no screen protector enclosed :(
[HD2 General] hrcro:
Could you tell us does the device have glass protected screen as the iphone, or plastic like diamond, hd... Do you think is it easy to scratch?

Thanks
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
looks like glass... i don`t think it is easy to scratch it, but you never know...
[HD2 General] JirkaKoutny:
If the earphones is the model with controller (play, stop, etc.) like on the photos, is it possilbe to declutch it to the part with controller and the part with earphones? Simply said, could the controller be used with another earphones?
[HD2 General] taiseer999:
Whats the RAM/ROM readings
[HD2 General] amirmw833:
you can check it by pushing your finger on the surface of the screen under the light (But reasonable pressure :d)

if you see the light reflection on the surface of the screen so, it doesn't look like iphone glass-protected screen, else we have a grate capacitive glass-protected screen like iphone.
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
you can`t use part of enclosed headphones with another ones...
[HD2 General] zolom:
Please, give us your impression how does the screen behaves outdoor and under direct sunlight.

Thanks for all your efforts.
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
when outside is cloudy, it is no difference as inside... i dont have acces to sunlight now :(
[HD2 General] Moandal:
Does pinch to zoom work with all applications?
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
most of...
[HD2 General] hrcro:
No, it does not work in every aplication. Saw on modaco video that it does not work in internet explorer... I dont think that that is important, sooner or later developers will do something about it.

You think that he should try "push the screen in" and if it does not bend, and reflects light unevenly it is glass screen??

Quality of the screen is very important for me because i had problems with digitizer layer on my HTC hd (touch screen died). (I know that capacitive screen dont have digitizer, but you know what I mean) :)
[HD2 General] 3mL:
How does Opera Browser work on this beauty? Laggy? Loading speed? Flash supported?

Creds to you for giving us this opportunity for a "Live Review"! :D
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
if it is like you saying, than it is glass screen
[HD2 General] madindehead:
I have a few questions before I commit to this:

1) What is the signal like indoors and outdoors? My X1 gets rubbish signal in some places, where my K750 gets perfect signal.

2) Is it as snappy and fast as it appears in all the videos?

3) Is it reasonably finger friendly given the big screen, but small MS tick boxes etc.

Thanks
[HD2 General] levin07:
Hi,can you show us the screenshot of ram(total and free)?:D

You mentioned about it.But I still want to see the amazing screenshot...:p
[HD2 General] amirmw833:
Thanks

so, you think it has a glass screen like Iphone? i mean, what did you feel by touching (or tapping with fingernail on) the screen?

it resembled to Iphone screen or other resistive screen (flexible screen I mean)?

@hrcro :

I got what u mean, but i told do that in a safe and logical manner.
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
O2 one has Co-Pilot on a 14 days trial...
[HD2 General] shure2:
+1 This is one of the biggest gripes I have with my current tp2, it has to render the page as you scroll, regardless of whether you have already viewed the page - iphone does this flawlessly :(
[HD2 General] Tanmay®:
How many Capacitive screens do you know which have a flexible screen? Thats right! None! So I guess we've had enough of those questions.

What a important question would be that is it coated with a anti fingerprint layer just like the iPhone 3GS and Hero or not?

Also the big question thats still left unanswered is the Music Quality. It'd be great if you could tell us about your experience of the Music Quality as compared to a standalone Mp3 Player such as iPod or Cowon (using the same headset ofcorse) ?
[HD2 General] Ben86:
hey thx. where did you get this information? cant find it on o2 websites.
[HD2 General] Ben86:
@20mihalko: would you try to open youtube.com on your hd2 and try to play a video and tell me if it works? i know there also is a youtube app but i ask because of flash support :)
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
no, by default, flash doesn`t work...
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
I have one. I have had it on test for a week now - and actually started to love it. I was a massive fan of the iPhone and Hero and didnt like the HD2 to start with. Now i've fixed the niggles, I am loving it!
[HD2 General] WildWayz:
Music quality is very good, imo. It has an EQ so you can tweak bass and treble etc as well as set up some presets too. I am using some Shure in-ear headphones (£80 pair).

Probably comparable to the iPhone (I am not an audiophile)...
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
opera works very fast, it is rendering instantly, also zooming is instant... it can start in less than 5 secs :)

when you work with device is fast, it is not laggy at all... screen looks same like on iphone, but without coating i think...

i have preinstalled copilot, and i don`t get phone with carrier... so every leo will have it preinstalled i think...

about music quality, i`m using A2DP headset Sampsung SBH-500, and i`m very, very satisfyied with that... quality is great.. also speaker is good...

sometimes i miss stylus... but it is only matter of time, and matter of "old" wm 6.5... with wm 6.5.1 it won`t be a problem for sure...

i love that thing :)
[HD2 General] hrcro:
Very nice to hear about good music quality. What can you tell about in call speaker, and microphone quality?

Thanks for all answers.
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
i don`t know anything about microphone quality, but call speaker quality is very good... compared to diamond, it is big difference...
[HD2 General] fedefedefede:
which version of Opera is installed? 9.5 or 9.7 with Turbo cache?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Got mine since 11:45 gmt +1
[HD2 General] refaat_ashi:
Great News. Congratulation. Please give us your feedback with pictures if possible and the ROM and RAM readings
[HD2 General] hmota78:
Congratulations XMOO, guess you won't get much sleep tonight :D
[HD2 General] 10076757:
xmoo whats the total internal memory it comes with
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Thx, been playing with it since 11:45, and now it's 13:18 and batt is 20%. So it's very very good.

Only problems with my thick fingers are the drop down menus (on some setting pages)

Pics will upload now!
[HD2 General] 10076757:
xmoo can you check if Youtube hd works. also can you check if a 720p mkv file can be played on coreplayer. is there/will there be flash 10 for HD2. also wont the pogo stylus work on the HD2. it works on the iphone so it should work on the HD2?
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
There will eventually be a FlashPlayer 10.1 for every single smartphone on the planet except the iPhone. Beta version for Windows Mobile is due out before Xmas. Final version is anyone's guess.
[HD2 General] 10076757:
xmoo remember:

1. check if youtube hd works

2. check if a 720p mkv file can be played using coreplayer

3. do yu think htc will release the api for the multitouch?

4. finally, take loads of picz!!
[HD2 General] Toss3:
Could you try running fpsece on it to see how it performs?
[HD2 General] timewyrm:
above +1 :D
[HD2 General] xmoo:
For Pictures, Check my Twitter.

Follow me!

http://www.twitter.com/Xmoo

My HD2 is resting now, and getting a 100% Charge.
[HD2 General] hnparedes:
I'm still waiting for mine :(
[HD2 General] zolom:
OUTDOOR

XMOO, please check how it performs outdoor and under direct sunlight.

Thanks and have fun
[HD2 General] xmoo:
This is the mem to like add song files etc on ur phone storage right?

190mb free.
[HD2 General] venezia64:
Hi lucky owners ;)

One question: is the soft keyboard multitouch like in this video:

http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/783/ ?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
The sun dunno, there is no sun in Netherlands.

I'm in a dark class room, and when I have the windows on my back what give light, it reflects on my HD2's screen, so I can't see ****!

My Location does work over data, so no more just wifi.

This has to do with the snapdragon chipset, that's why it's not working on the HD1.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Nope,

Remember, there is NO MULTITOUCH.

Only pinch to zoom!! You all and HTC is not allowed to call it multi touch.

The correct name is pinch to zoom.

So don't think that HTC will release a multi touch API for it.

http://www.twitter.com/Xmoo
[HD2 General] Biffy:
Apologies if this is already asked, but does google maps use the built-in compass at all?
[HD2 General] thebiker:
full settings

Somebody please write the registry setting for the full windows settings!

I remember the same problem with the early version of TD2 WM6.5 roms in this summer. But I didn't find it!
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Compass does not work in Google maps.

If i'm correct you re talking about Googl Street view, enabling compass and than turning with your phone etc, it it directs you the correct way.

No does not work!
[HD2 General] cribeiro:
HD2 has Notes app?

For me it's important to take notes by hand and be able to make small drawings by hand using Notes app as I can do this in all WM devices like mine Pro2.

Is there Notes app in HD2?

If yes, can you write small letters with the finger?

Thanks
[HD2 General] xmoo:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4889918&postcount=2
[HD2 General] CAH000:
Yes, according to page 232 of the user manual.
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Will try it, Cause Just like Android, it did not work!

Confirm it does work!
[HD2 General] 10076757:
Ohh! about your comment earlier xmoo does the HD2 have multitouch. or is it renamed to pinch to zoom becasue they are scared of apple. also did you try a 720p mkv file on coreplayer with it? quickly tell us man!! what you waiting for
[HD2 General] xmoo:
It is renamed, but corrently nothing multi touch working.... Just the zoom

Dion't have a HD file, If you refer me to a link to download a 720p movie, I will download and play it.
[HD2 General] madindehead:
What's the signal quality like on it?

Is it as fast as it looks in the videos?
[HD2 General] 20mihalko:
yes, it is fast...

signal is good, but i`m living in capital of slovakia, so it should be :)
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Hehe nice.

Well, my X1 usually gets good signal, but sometimes drops it, where my K750 still gets signal. That's more why I ask what it's signal is like. Getting mine on contract tomorrow, and should have it a week today if all goes to plan =D

Does it feel nice to use? And is it reasonably finger friendly also (surely that big screen makes even little tick boxes easy to use).
[HD2 General] 10076757:
XMOO here's a link to a 720p movie file. play it on coreplayer 1.3:

http://rapidshare.com/files/.../ntg-slumdog_720p-sample.mkv

and by the way, have you tested any videos on youtube on the youtube hd settings with the phone
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Testes with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p27cLysfqYc

And it played without showing any lag! Downloading ur file now!

Incorrect link,...... :S
[HD2 General] 10076757:
im so sorry xmoo heres the link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/219687657/ntg-slumdog_720p-sample.mkv
[HD2 General] wilbur:
ummm - no. That says that you can choose a destination to navigate to using the compass application from google maps. but the navigating is done within the compass application - so you will just get an arrow pointing which way to walk plus distance to go etc..
[HD2 General] AshHD:
Question to 20mihalko or xmoo. Do either of you have morphgear? Please please tell me how this performs on capacitive and with the extra grunt of the snapdragon. Also what skin do you find best? Are the buttons multi touch in the application for smooth gaming. Especially interested in the gameboy advance emu with sound - I have extremely long bus/train journeys to work everyday and would quite like to do away with having to carry my gameboy as well as my phone. Whew sorry, very excited - hope it's worth the wait (and price) mine just got delayed by handtec until 16th :(
[HD2 General] 10076757:
im so sorry xmoo heres the link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/219687657/ntg-slumdog_720p-sample.mkv

on youtube, did you enable the hd mode?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Don't have it sry.

Downloading the file! Have a small meeting, after that I will test.

Youtube HD did work!
[HD2 General] 10076757:
xmoo tell us the results qick time yeah after your meeting. test it on coreplayer and which version of coreplayer are you using? Also do you think we can get the api for the mutiouch so developers can makes apps for it like on the iphone?
[HD2 General] csolb:
Xmoo

Have you been through the file system fo the sense UI? Do you think it's possible to copy the sense PI and eventually install android on it with the sense on top?
[HD2 General] xmoo:
Coreplayer 1.32 build 6909

And again don't call it multi touch! HTC didn't, so do you guys :P

It's only pinch to zoom, so don't think there will be an official SDK

Regarding to Android.

Nothing yet, first gonna do a lot of WM6.5 things.
[HD2 General] Ben86:
dont you think there will be someone who builds a programm which will allow the whole system to be "multi touch" enabled? i just remember the rotate function on my diamond after a while it was even possible to rotate the homescreen. so i would call it "atm not possible" but lets hope for the future? :)
[HD2 General] xmoo:
By time it will tell.

Just found a soft-reset button.

But you need a stylus for it :P

Also it is the same battery as the Touch HD.

Anyone tried switching battery? :P
[HD2 General] 10076757:
xmoo wot about the 720p video file. did it work on coreplayer. is there any lag