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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drpal181:
I would have to agree with you to a point. My first device was the 8525 . I have also used the tilt and the fuze. It seemed with each generation, the device loses fuctons out of the box. If it was not for xda, i would be hating these devices and gotten an iphone. The tilt 2 is no exeption but the improvements over the fuze out weight the bad aspectes of the device. It might be awhile before the apps catch up with the hardware.

there has been a new wave of devices that use the sliding keybord layout. e features of the upcoming droid read like the wishlist for htc on the touch pro 2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cameraddict:
Well, this sounds like a hardware issue to me.. perhaps you have a defective phone. Mine is fine, there are a few software glitches here and there, but overall that problem is not common for this device.

I came from a Wizard, so ya know..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kiint:
I hear ya, I came from a Samsung i760, quite possibly the last WinMoPro phone that will ever sport a traditional phone button grid on the front of the phone (*plus* an excellent slide-out qwerty.) I got quite used to it, and I could do everything blindfolded. It was also built like a tank, no case needed.

But like you, I was seduced by that big, luscious WVGA screen. And so far Im pretty happy, although I do miss the buttons (and Dpad) alot. "The devils' greatest trick was to make the world think they didnt need phones with buttons" was my mantra.

Well, the tradeoffs are good, good enough that I think I'll stick with the TP2 until something better comes along. The speed is much faster, the screen is, well, gorgeous, and a myriad of little other things make it more preferable than the i760 *OVERALL*.

...but man, I wish I could mate the two little bricks and get the best of both worlds.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] LJKelley:
Well it just is impossible to have both a large screen and buttons on the front of the phone. I still think this phone is the best of both world with the slide out keyboard. This phone's keyboard is very easy to use and large. My Tilt keyboard would sometimes not register a key input because I didn't push the key hard enough. This one is as fast and easy as typing on my computer.

As for sluggishness, I have had none and still use the default T-Mobile rom with TouchFlo3D. Which is actually very suprising to me in having it work so well. With the Tilt you had to ditch the AT&T rom so fast it wasn't even funny. As for your keyboard problem, it almost sound like a hardware buffer problem or that you have something messing you drivers or freezing your phone. First I would check the Memory Usage and then perhaps dig down deeper into the Task Manager and see CPU Usage of your various apps to see if any are hogging it. Perhaps selectively uninstall software. Or last try a warranty exchange.

Granted, my T-Mobile USA Touch Pro 2 doesn't have much installed or changed yet. It does have Exchange Push activated and Facebook, actuall AIM, MyPhone, Marketplace, Bing, Skyfire, PHM RegEdit, Netflix Mobile, and Garmin Mobile XT installed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Spike15:
I noticed a huge reduction in issues once I switched to WinMo6.5. The keyboard buffering problem is still there, but it's nowhere near as bad, and only really occurs if you fire up an app and immediately start typing.

You just have to realize that what you typed WILL show up eventually, and that the device will quickly catch up to you. It's no different than opening Windows PowerShell on my laptop, and typing a command while waiting for it to load, it'll execute the command once it's loaded...I don't have to worry...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Fiber:
My problem with the TP2 is that it feels fragile and just too.. plastic.. I've had a HTC Wizard before which didn't feel like cheapass plastic.

Too bad HTC has cut on the quality of their phones.. I don't want my phone to feel like it's going to break when I bend the hinge.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] bigdookie:
i feel the same way. for me tho, i dont think its the phone... i think ita WinMo6.5. So outdated and UGLY with the 6.5.1 additions of "finger buttons." ive been searching for a phone that i can use on tmo with 3g, othrer than mytouch and g1. i hate those devices. if i could get the rhodium onto hero, life would prolly be better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KCMatt:
I am with you 100% when it comes to the d-pad. I currently am still on the Fuze and miss the d-pad from the Tilt. Left and right on the Fuze is unreliable, but I can still use up and down. I am very hesitant to move "up" to the Tilt 2, and you are confirming my fears.

You are right, and I've also thought that if/when Apple makes an iPhone with a qwerty keyboard, you will suddently see a huge influx of new devices with qwerty keyboards. I also bet Apple will come out with a slick voice recognition interface, then everyone else will be following suit with that too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] motocrossmann:
I still love mine, but dumped the stock ROM a long time ago. I'm on Fusion v6.0, 21869.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ajbopp:
I moved to the Rhodium from the Vogue about a month ago and I have to say I love it as much today as I did the day it arrived, probably more. Stock ROM. I thank God every day the DPAD is gone - what a waste of space. Have experienced no hardware issues and far fewer software issues. For the first time, I have a phone that only gets reset during my weekly backup each Monday morning instead of every day or two. Although initially I hated the addition of the audio jack, I recently had occasion to use it for playing preshow music over a theatre sound system for a play, so even that came it handy, though I will always prefer Bluetooth audio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] lufc:
All i can say is every one to there own, People will love it People will hate it, Me i love it, On the other hand if you Hate it GET RID and leave us to enjoy ours:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Crazya:
Well, I'm glad so many still like it. I think my next step is to check out another unit in the store and see if mine is defective.

I'm also going to look at a new ROM, maybe that will speed it up. Any recommendations as to which one I should try?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lord_BlackAdder:
Well I am been using it for a few months now and it still runs fine. I haven't flashed any ROM yet. Still with Telstra 6.1 ROM.

However, I do miss the D-pad too. Problem is having a large screen and a D-Pad will make the phone larger. I don't think I want anything larger so if I have to choose I will go with large screen. Otherwise I would have bought the TP instead.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Crazya:
I think that they could get both in there if they tried. Maybe a little joystick like the qtek 8130 or the 2125...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hanson68:
I miss the DPad, but then again, the screen is so much bigger than my Diamond that it's easier to finger navigate. A Blackberry trackball would have been awesome.

I'm two weeks into my Sprint TP2 with stock 6.1 ROM, and I am loving it. I listen to music and watch TV shows on the train during my commute. I just discovered voice command and I'm playing around with it. Selecting media is still a bit dodgy, but making calls works amazingly well without a need to record tags for each contact.

I know these features were available on the Diamond, but the headphone jack and storage card make all the difference in the world. I now realize that 4GB non-expandable storage is a huge liability (and ActiveSync is a slow-ass way to transfer files). The USB adapter discouraged me from using the Diamond for music -- now I listen to music and podcasts when I commute via car. No more staticky, commercial ridden radio for me.

I loaded Fusion visual voicemail, but I haven't been able to use it because I haven't missed a single call since I got the TP2 (with the Treo, Diamond, and Mogul, I would frequently get calls that went straight to voicemail).

And the battery life is a tremendous improvement over the Diamond. When I used the Diamond, I would leave the house with a full charge and then recharge it two more times at work. I don't know if I could get through an entire day on one charge with the TP2 (it would be close), but the charging itself is so much faster that I just need a 20 minute boost towards the end of the day to get me back home. The Diamond would sometimes takes 2 hours to get back to full charge. It was maddening.

I think the two features that would have made this phone perfect are a trackball and more stable screen rotation. Many apps practically crash when you rotate the screen (opera mini has to be restarted if I accidentally open the screen to type, and a couple of times I had to hard reboot because it got locked up). I'm glad the G Sensor doesn't rotate most programs -- I actually find it an annoyance. I prefer portrait mode 99% of the time unless I'm using the keyboard.

And speaking of which, what an awesome keyboard. The Mogul keyboard was awful, which is why I settled for the Diamond instead of waiting for the Touch Pro to come back into stock. I figured I barely ever used the keyboard, so it didn't make sense to spend more money and wait an indefinite amount of time for a feature I didn't even use. The TP2 keyboard is a different animal -- the spaced, offset keys make typing a breeze. I can actually pound out a few paragraphs now without having to correct every fourth letter. It more than makes up for the thickness.

And now that I have the keyboard, I can control emulated games. That was pretty much impossible on the Diamond.

Maybe in a few weeks I could change my mind, but I doubt it. If I could get the VolDpad repeat scroll mode to work properly in Opera Mini, I wouldn't even mind not having a trackball.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] linker3000:
Here's my HTC history:

Hermes (TyTN): Clunky, but a nice phone for its time

Kaiser: (TYTN II): As above, lovely tilting keyboard, faster and the most responsive satnav of them all.

Raphael (Touch Pro): What were they thinking! Screen too small and GPS a total failure, often just not working - and when it did the lag was awful. Hate this phone with a passion.

Rhodium (Touch Pro 2): Great phone. Miss the dpad a bit. No TAB key!! (OK, you can map one). Slight GPS lag. S2U2 pretty much mandatory to avoid calling people from your pocket.

If I couldn't have the Rhodium, I'd go back to my Kaiser.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] martian07:
I have not played enough with my TP2 yet, but I think if you like hardware buttons, you can customize the existing buttons with utilities like AE buttons and many others which allows you even double or triple click on the same buttons. I use it even on Tilt which has D pad and the scroll wheel as well. I would say give it a try.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jdwrrzmm:
Oh man, compared to the Raphael I love this phone. Despite being nearly the same spec-wise, I hated the Raphael and was extremely weary of this phone until my Raphael broke and I had to get it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] martian07:
KB remapper

I tried this key remapper. Just remapped the vol keys to UP and DN, and double click to ENTER etc, much more convenient for me now. Worked fine on my TMo TP2. Some people complaint on Tilt2 and some ROMs. Check out this thread..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=554240
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] martian07:
nice task manager WkTask

I just installed this task manager and program launcher. I like this specially on TP2 (anything which can cover for the lack of d pad). I liked its gesture options and desktop type taskbar. Check this out here

http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html

there is a thread in dev hacking forum also.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] suesargis:
I hate the Os not the phone

I have the Sprint version. after < 2 months the battery burbned out and entire device locked up. I was ready to trash it. got a new battery from Sprint after many hours on the phone and now it works again.

But I hate the OS.

For years I had Win mo devices and a few Palm in the mix. Just before I got the tp2 I had the iphone. Now I want more from an OS. I saw 6.5 on you tube and nothing great there. If I could get android on my phone, I would prefer that.

I was very tempted to get the Droid, but after spending 350.00 on tp2 and then breaking a contract, plus Verizon charging extra for tethering and exchange forget it.

Cell phones is not consumer friendly business
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
...Really?

I wonder if my sarcasm detector is broken.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] p51d007:
I can't vouch for the OEM software. I didn't even turn on the phone at the at&t store. I just told the deathstar borg make sure everything was in the box, I'll set it up later. Took it home, threw hard SPL on it, and blew out the rom and installed a custom rom. Fast, stable & smooth.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ygohome:
I disagree with the OP. I came from an XV6800 (vzw) and had a custom ssk rom on it that worked beautifully. Then I went to the Touch Pro (vzw) and I loved it more so even though it was handicapped compared to the sprint and others. Again, ran the SKK roms (6.5 and went back to 6.1 because was more "fuel" efficient). Now I've got the Touch Pro 2 on SSK ROM with 6.5.1. Sounds like the OP needs to experiment with some different roms. I love mine.

*what was it Bruce Cambell said?... "*****y little girls"?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Crazya:
I've tried a few things since my last post to addres my two complaints.

I hard reset and ran the device without any extra software to see if it would be faster. It's not. It still lags something awful sometimes. I'm wondering if it's waiting for a response from the network?

Following that I did install the keyboard remapper. It's brilliant. I set vol up and down to real up and down and added ok/close and enter to click/click and hold...

It's developed a new issue where it thinks it's in landscape mode when it's in portrait. It puts a black bar across the screen with the soft key on it. It's bizarre and frustrating. I'm thinking this one is defective. I'm going to try to get it replaced.

Barring a new phone that works well, I'm looking at the NRG rom...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Lol

It´s funny how everybody is talking about all defects TP2 has.

There won´t be a perfect device, always someone will find it´s weak points.

I am so happy with my TP2:):)

If you are not happy with TP2 sell it!, trade it! or do whatever you need to do to get rid of it and get a device that makes you happy:)

That´s all about!.

Just my opinion.

Peace,

p.s. If anyone are willing to donate a TP2 to me for testing ROM and apps proposes I´ll be happy to pay for shipping:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] wkng83:
My previous phone was Touch Criuse, I missed the scroll wheel, and the camera buttons. Onthe other hand, I must agree that TP2 is much more faster, and nicer to use then touch criuse. The keyboard is great!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
Not true, see: http://www.pomegranatephone.com/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jpoirier587:
i have the tilt 2 and ya the bloatware is pretty bad. boot the phone and memory is already in the %70 range. saw that, laughed and flashed energy's photon 2.1. memory dropped to %50 after a fresh boot and lots of **** installed. i highly recommend this rom. i couldn't find a bug in it after a couple weeks use. my tilt 2 has no issues with lag with this rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Lol

That is so old:D

Far away from being perfect...

Why should you need a shaving machine and a coffee maker on a cell phone:confused::D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] FeareX:
Love it

Hi all!

I was a big fan of this phone. But it ended when the HardSPL had found my phone. Since it's unlocked i don't know wich ROM i want, there is just so many choice! I have settled with the Energy ROM right now. It's just so hard with so many great ROM's out there :(

No but really, this is the best phone i've ever had. It does about anything you want and it comes in a nice package :)

Since i'm only 19 years old, this is my 3rd phone. Starting from a nokia 6230 (that thing was awsome when i just had it, it even had a camera! :P ) then my HTC Vox (S710) and now my Rhodium.

So i'm just starting with my phone collection :P But i already love XDA developers for making a phone even better then it already was :)

Grtz,

FeareX
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Farsquidge:
Ya don't see em often, but this post is a bute! Too many people with too little knowledge (or don't even own one but are pro Ispludge) roast HTC gear before they really get to know them.

Good on ya guy... :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] fortunz:
Because I don't have enough room in my pockets for a separate razor and a coffee maker?

Convergence is good. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arxgen:
htc touch pro 2

Mine is wicked fast. It will run circles around the last 2 previous generations.. the kaiser and tp1..

With that said I am running Windows Mobile 6.5 EnergyROM "Photon"
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] The Jack of Clubs:
its quite whiney in here. if you dont want to use the touch screen and want to use a dpad, buy a phone with no touch screen and a dpad. of course its slow out of the box, install a better rom, stock roms suck we all know that. i flashed a new rom in hours of getting it. this is the best phone ive ever had, the keyboard is fantasmigorical, its sad to think that from now on ill never have a phone with this good a keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kidlockatong:
It's even better than that. I write for a living, and the other day, just fooling around to get used to the newer layout for some of the keys, before I knew it I knocked out 1,000+ words with no strain at all. Whoever designed that thing deserves some kind of prize.

I never thought I'd be able to live without a d-pad, either. I don't use Touch-flo. That's why I owned a Fuze, and loved using it. Then a defect turned up on the Fuze, and I had to trade up to the T-2. Still don't use Touch-flo, but even for me the transition to d-pad-less computing was a lot easier than I expected. Would never go back to using one now.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] Kush.Kush™:
will someone tell me how to get my contacts to load and google apps on the cyanogenmod update

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rpesigan6:
i was using dwangs rom for like half the day and it made me want to go back to cyanogens rom. but. i forgot that you need that HTC recovery installed before flashing cyanogens. I went back to recovery, and did so. It loads up my G1 and i dont have terminal, superuser, and even my Aman Ra recovery! did i lose root? if i did, how shall i start rooting again? the one click root?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prince.siraj:
no you wanna do the full root process:

http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Quick_Root
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unknown.soul:
No need to do that, I've messed up before and lost my recovery image. If you have HardSPL or the "Danger SPL" you can flash the recovery image through fastboot.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rpesigan6:
would i have to unroot first just to be safe? cause under ABOUT PHONE, my model number is ANDROID DEV PHONE 1. thats what is making think i still have root? am i correct ?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rpesigan6:
bbump. i need help here
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Icebergxx:
It's a g1....It's not hard at all to root just manually root it dude.

Downgrade to rc 29 then follow any guide.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
read this thread and pay attention to the post i selected

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4677631#post4677631
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] sugur:
I have GSM htc diamond (india) recently i have installed energy rom in my diamond.

i have a navigation software.earlier my gps worked very good with out any interruption..but now it was taking much time abt 15-20 min to search for the satellites..

help me please..

i have also updated radio version 1.09.25.23..but no use..:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] XDA-Geek:
try 1.09.25.24 ........
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] gbymb:
try turning off assisted gps
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] frxo:
try closing the bluetooth, take off the battery for a while ... start again with gps ... and after you can turn on the bluetooth
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] jenod:
i saw the spec of the diamond 2 clone.

RAM 2 gb

Processor 1ghz

Wht the hell? i dono whts happening

http://www.shanzai.com/index.php/ban...s-better-specs
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] aussie1234:
Try This Link

Hi

The link you gave goes to 404 page error.

Try

http://www.shanzai.com/index.php/bandit-gadgets/phones/353-htc-diamond2-clone-has-better-specs

Cheers

Aussie :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] jenod:
heres the link sorry!

http://www.shanzai.com/index.php/bandit-gadgets/phones/353-htc-diamond2-clone-has-better-specs
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theomajigga:
Hey

I've tried searching with google and didn't find what I was looking for.

Is there a difference between the danger and the death SPL?

I have 1.33.2005 (SAPP30000) PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H

on my mt3g for tmobile.

Is this the right one? and is it the danger or the death?

Thanks!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
if you have a mt3g....you dont need the danger/death spl (which are indeed the same)

the danger/death spl is a htc sapphire spl ported to dream. Go to the sapphire section to get their latest spl.... the danger spl is required mainly due to space constraints on the g1 which the mt3g doesnt have

using the .2005 spl ported for the dream on your mt3g MAY brick your phone
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] drasd:
please help : i ve turned my laptop into hotspot via adhoc

the problem is icant browsing over my hermes although it can see my lap top

please help
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] yinx:
First you need to confirm that your laptop has an internet connection available.

Second you need to share the connection , in the connection sharing dialog, you can select your wifi connection as the target of the sharing. After the sharing, your wifi network card will have ip address of 192.168.0.1 , and when your hermes try to connect, hermes will get a ip like 192.168.1.2 , so that it can connect to your laptop and get online.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] wandrerx:
just wanted anyone who is interested to know that the Magic's Chinese CIME works on my rooted CDMA HERO while I couldn't get the HERO one to.

*edit*

forgot to mention they can be found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512530
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fullgrown:
I've never rooted anything in my life. so the thread that we have here is somewhat confusing for me.

can someone write a step by step on how to root the Hero for dummies like me?

thank you!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] nelson8403:
There's a lot of them, you just need to look..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581567

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581577

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=582033
[Hero CDMA Android Development] thorracing1:
this is the easest

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4911147#post4911147
[Hero CDMA Android Development] thorracing1:
woot 100 posts lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] goku14238:
heres a vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArMO5IHS2eI
[Hero CDMA Android Development] fullgrown:
i followed the first link and then the video link...

when i press the volume down and power button into recovery, i get the image of triangle with ! and phone right next to it...

how do i make the recovery img into the phone?