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[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
dont worry hiding is not bad ;)

well seems a simmilar issue, u may browse back in this forum and look for simmilar issue, look for posts by donfano in this forum.

also can u send me your Rules.db file (place u installed it/Program Files/SMSRules/Rules.db)

I will PM u my maik id

Once notified the app should stop itself did u checked was it running? SMSRule.exe
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Rogibeer:
No fix for the HTC HD2 yet?

any chance fot it soon?

Thnx
[Windows Mobile Software Development] blackout1:
Hi Mohitsapru,

sorry i've not replied yet, kind of busy.

The rules.db file what is that all about? this cause i uninstalled the app from the phone so that file was gone too... and only 0kb...

the rules file from the memorycard didn't work yet so there cannot be a message in it... (from before 10th of match)

do you still need it? is there a ways to get the msg's back? i looked for the donfano stuff but there's not really something i found inthere....:S
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I had a similar problem where I could not find the hidden messages. This was caused by the fact that I had the threaded mode on. I tried to follow your discussion with Mohit, and I did not read anywhere that you actually hid or moved the messages. You probably discussed this with Mohit offline, but I just wanted to know if it is the exact same problem I had before.

Was your rule to HIDE or MOVE messages? What did the notification report? Moved or Hidden?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Few things that shud be clear now is that.

1. Program wont save your messages anywhere, it just moves them around.

2. If messages are deleted and you dont have a backup plan, the messages are lost.

Donfano has replied to your post, as he mentioned this issue seems to be same as his. He may be the better guide for this issue.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aoch88:
I installed on my HD2 and I can't set the initial password. The reason is because every time I click "Menu", the menu screen doesn't come up at all. Any ideas how to fix this please?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
This app has "several" issues with HD2. Mohit posted one of them in the FAQ where it says:

Since Mohit does not have HD2 to test with, he has never been able to address those issues.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Thanks donfano for replying to this post,

well yes as don has said i was never able to replicate these issues with HD2 and these issue have come up earlier also i think it is related to some new menu or notification sort of thing that is in HDs. U may go back in forums and check it. or wait till i get a HD2:D (this seems less probable:p)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] aoch88:
Thanks guy, appreciate the prompt reply :) To be honest I'd really love to have such an application in the phone. I was using Nokia and iPhone previously and MCleaner works excellent! Any ideas if you guys can advice me what to get? I don't mind paying some money for it too.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Well not sure about what u can get to clean your smses as i did this because i wanted one :D

Maybe somebody can help you out...for a paid alternative

or can you turn of something like advanced notification in HD2... not sure how to do that but maybe can fix it...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Mohit - why don't you take aoch88's money to fix it? lol :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
lol:D

i think that case instead of money i might require HD2 ;)

but aoch88 dont take it otherwise...we r just joking ;)

and no one is forced to pay...if it helped you or feeling rich:cool: then only donate ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
aoch88 bytheway i suppose you are using the 4.5b, could you try with 4.3b and check if it is working...!!! in one of post for a simmilar issue 4.3 was working...

EDIT: digged around my forum and here is the link where a same issue like this has been discussed
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jeocuneyt:
deleting messages

Need Help Pls :)

The application I installed has some issues.

The problem is; that the sms messages sent by contacts ( which have rules to be moved to a specific folder ) are deleted. And they cannot be located anywhere.

Am I missing something here ?

What I do is;

1- Run "Create Rules"

2- From "ContactRules"

a- Add a folder ( i.e: Spam ) from the "menu"

b- select "MOVE" as rule action

b- Select "MESSAGE" in Contacts Form

c- Select the sepcific contact from the "Add contact" list.

d- Select that folder from "To Folder" box.

e- Then tap on "add"

It says "rule added"

f- Check " Autorun " From "RUN TYPE" in the MENU

----

I can verify it from Existing -> Contact Rules -> For folder -> Spam folder.

So I start Testing it.

It's there but the "Auto" box next to it is not checked.

Test sender sends the SMS message.. Nothing happens. Message is still in inbox.

then I open "smsrules" again, Go to "Existing", select the rule and check the "AUTO" box.

Then I test again. Test contact sends SMS. Something happens now.. And what happens is, the sms message is now deleted.

Not in any folder, not even inbox, deleted, SPAM ( folder that it should have been moved to ) .. SMS has been permenantly deleted. Even checked the "PRIVATE" folder in some hope.. but nah.. it's nowhere..

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Or is this a program issue ?

Phone : Samsung Omnia I900

Winmo 6.1

Microsoft .NET CF 3.5 Installed

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hmm well that means nothing is working for you??:eek: except creating and deleting of rules:D

well will try to figure it out later...(WEEKEND :o)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sd00:
Looks promising - stick in & you'll get there mate.

Some feature requests...

Move to hidden (hidden) folder (not sure how you would implement - ideas welcome) - this might include an option to prevent the audible / vibration alert

Option per rule to intercept incoming SMS to process rule on arrival of new messages (this is fairly easy)

Composite rules (like outlook) e.g.

1:Move

message to

2:secret

where

3:body

4:contains

5:sexy

The numbered underlined parts of the 'Composite rules' are a choice of

Move / Delete / Copy

Folder / Secret folder

Body / Sender Name / Sender Number

Contains / Start with / Ends With / Equals

Criteria

PS, there are VGA emulators available from MS for testing :)

Lastly, if any of these are already implemented, my apologies, I haven't tried your app (yet) but I will - I just wanted to show my interest.

Cheers, sd00
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
One more thing is your messages/locale english ??:o asking because maybe locale might be a problem...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ysva:
good thinking!

my locale isn't english but dutch (the language they speak in the Netherlands, Europe. not to be confused with deutsch, that's german). the du

tch language is often shortened by the code 'NL' (same as other languages us-en, fr, de, etc.)

do I need to do some research for you of where my messages could be located according to my locale or find translations?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
well thanks for letting me know, will try to make it locale proof...in next release... :D

for the time being can you just try by changing your phones locale to USA english... and test it... and let me know of the results :o

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ysva:
sorry, changing the locale didn't work :(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] yinx:
But I cann't create folder...

On my hermes, I installed your app. ,but I found I couldn't add folder in my sms app. The "manager folder" menu is grayed out. I don't know why.Is there somewhere in registry that can control this menu item ?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi yinx,

Could you please confirm if you have threaded sms enabled? as this might be a reason and in case it is then u need to change it to normal view using advance configuration tool or in registry change SMSInboxThreadingDisabled value to 1 which can be found in

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi ysva,

could you please replace your exes with these one and try, also could you plz send me your .rule files which will be there in the SMSRule folder in program files. thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] yinx:
Yes, I'm in threaded mode, I'll switch it and give it a try. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] muhmak:
hi!it did not work on HTC VOX!:(((
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Did not work means?? You got error running it or it was running but did not filtered the messages?

Could you also please give some description about your locale and device.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi gabfus,

Seems fine but with new version you might find use of sender names from message useful...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Thanks VoiceX for the feedback ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ysva:
if you've added the folder in the non-threaded mode you can switch back to regular and the folder will remain there. I'm yet to find out if it still works if you have threaded mode one, could you check this for me?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ysva:
Yes. I'll first try out your original before trying your new version. I have the new (official) European version of the HTC Touch Pro II rom with windows mobile 6.5 and HTC Sense instead of TouchFlo 3D. Afterwards I'll try your new version.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
So in your rom is sms inbox written as "INBOX" or some thing else... because inside my application i am searching for INBOX... might be the reason why my application is not working on non wwe roms.... any ways plz confirm if it is the case...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kiolixed:
I think i know why this app is not working on non-WWE ROM..it is because this app cannot read/detect unicode characters in the contacts...it only detects LATIN ALPHAPBET...

I tried rule with my contact containing symbol "{" and "}" ... the rule not working...i think this app cannot detect symbols in contact too...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] kiolixed:
request : could u make app that can lock INBOX (password security)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Thanks kiolixed,

i suppose the correct person to do that is Robert whose wrappers i am using in my app u may want to suggest/ask this here
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Must say nicely explained:)

well now the problem... do you have threaded mode enabled? if yes then turn it off and try
[Windows Mobile Software Development] jeocuneyt:
Got it.

Mohitsapru.. Sorry for the posting crowd I've made here..

But since I posted my message :) I've been doing this search.. Found Reg editor.. Found Reg keys and disabled Threaded SMS. Which worked like a charm..

"--------------------------------"

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\

Under the registry key, create a new DWORD value with value name as SMSInboxThreadingDisabled and set it value data to 1.

"--------------------------------"

So now, when i run the rules.. or set them to run "AUTO".. All is fine..

They now go to their appropriate subfolders etc..

NOTE: I read all the posts in this thread..

Just learned about sms threading and stuff..

Read numerous problems from users. So I had to narrow the one

problem that I got and find a solution..

Took me a while to put it all together in my head.. Which one compiles to mine :) So sorry again if i've asked a question that others might have asked and resolved earlier, in some other series of kind of way.

And thanks for the great gread application. Really handy.. Really appreciated piece of work :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Thanks a lot jeocuneyt,

nice to hear that you gained something from here :). always a pleasure helping u guys...

Thanks,

Mohit
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Mohit - It's becoming common lately to see users with the problem of finding the messages that have been filtered, and most of the time it was caused with the fact that the thread mode was enabled. Personally, I prefer to use the thread mode, and I turn it off when I need to enable the autorun. It would be nice if you ever find the solution to this... one of these days!:p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
:D I thought you are going to say that add this issue in first post:D

well now since the count is increasing as you said i also think i need to find a solution for it, but since all this is done using the opensource lib i might need to contact that developer for a help:o

anyways some day i will fix it. :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Willy318is:
STILL A MAIN ISSUE:

and the lack of solving it out means that I can only Benifit 50% from the neat App.

It is:

every time I click "Menu", the menu screen doesn't come up at all. Any ideas how to fix this please?

Someone earlier said TURN OFF ENHANCED NOTIFICATIONS.

How can I do That?

HD2
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
please check this link .If u want u may contact that user, i am not sure how to do as i dont have a HD2
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
v 0.6b Out

1. Size reduced

2. Faster filtering

3. Should Work on threaded mode :) plz confirm
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
is it working??? ny comments???
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ink0gnito:
i'd like to try as soon as autorun on hd2 is confirmed to work.

(in first post there's still a bug report that it won't on hd2)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Yes there is some issues with autorun in HDs, still unresolved..
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Removed

Had some issues with hiding messages, messages that are designated to be hid are "no were to be found":eek: those are not deleted nor copied to the private folder.

Will fix n update
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Can this be a fix for HD2

This is what i found from msdn link,

could any one confirm it...???

found the app link at xda... where else!!! ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I know I usually respond quickly, but I will be glad to run a test asap.:rolleyes:

Before I run the test with the new version, I just thought I should tell you what kind of behaviours I get with v4.5b:

MOVE causes messages to be deleted; although, the notification indicates the messages have been moved

COPY does nothing; although, the notification indicates the messages have been copied

HIDE actually moves messages (this time!) to the PRIVATE folder, but the problem is that the messages are for some reason visible in my Inbox still. I said "this time!" because I used to get a different behaviour where the messages were moved to the Deleted Items folder and completely disappeared after restarting tmail.

Anyway, I can't wait to see if the new version fixes the problem(s).:)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I should have read the "offline" part in this thread because I couldn't find the new version from the first post.:D

PM me if you need someone to run a test.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Sure :D

U r late this time :p

I am at office, once i reach home i will send it across...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Fixed!!!

V 4.6b is now uploaded again, fixed the issue with hiding messages(but still needs to be tested)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Did you check post 393?? In case it helped let us know...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Hi Mohit - I have good and bad news!:p Let's start with the good one! I have run several tests, and COPY, MOVE, and HIDE all work fine. This is great because I have been waiting for this for awhile on threaded mode:D

Now the bad news!:(

Let's start with the minor one!:rolleyes: This one does not cause any problem, as far as I know, but I just want to report it with my steps below:

Sent an sms to my mobile from another mobile

Opened Filter Rules

Created a rule to copy the sms from the other mobile to another folder

Ran rule --> notification indicates "Copied: 1"

Went to Existing screen

Deleted the copy rule

Went to ContactRules screen

Created a rule to move the sms from the other mobile to another folder

Ran rule --> notification indicates "Copied: 1":confused: and "Moved: 1"

Now about the REAL problem! The autorun does not run the rules. I can see the busy cursor, but nothing gets processed whether to hide, copy, or move the messages.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Did u dismissed the earlier notification?? just wondering:confused:

For autorun maybe you can uncheck and check the autorun option again...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Yes, I did dismiss the earlier notification.

I have tried this several times, but I can give it a try again...
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Well then i have to look into the new notification logic, you might have noticed it...

Sure let me know...earlier was it working?? Or could you try with non threaded mode... then we can easly zero in to the problem
[Windows Mobile Software Development] sniff15:
hide folder

here is an option i do not see in this program and it would be good simple but good.

the ability to have user created folders be hidden.

the private folders moves all msgs correct but what if i just want to copy and hide the msgs and get rid of them when i want in a separate folder?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Nice feature to have.... but as of now no time... maybe sometime when i am bit free
[Windows Mobile Software Development] blackout1:
sorry have been so busy that i didn't have time to check here...

My rule said hide and move, but the folder i had made myself didn't have any messages in it after the app moved/hide them. THe app was hanging after moving/hiding them and i had to uninstall, cause after few times trying restarting etc the app wouldn't work...

how could i get the messages back? i didn't install yet other apps as i'm afraid to overwrite them when it was created in a file which i have to discover.

For the pc i used one time when i had my harddrive crash the programm rstudio to recover files after formatting the harddrive... is there something like that for the mobile phone or it there a possibility to hang the phone on my laptop and rstudio from the laptop? now only the memory card is showed on explorer:((

hope you can help me with recovering the messages as i really need them...:(

i didn't delete them... tried watching the threaded mode and the non threaded mode but none of them show me the msg's..
[Windows Mobile Software Development] blackout1:
Dear Mohit,

Now i've got some time i'm looking through my mobile and see in the messaging folder a lot of files with the .mpb extension... from the dates i miss messages i believe... is there a way to import them into the sms app?

still trying to find a way to get them back:S

hope you can still help me. It's at least really appreciated...

thank you;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
sorry man... wish i could have helped you but frankly i am not sure what those mpbs are and those are not related to my app...

Just did a google and found MPB file is a My Phone Explorer data.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] blackout1:
ok but for now, you said the messages won't just dissapear...

How about what i said about the app hang, i restarted, the app woudn't work, i uninstalled...

(did i not uninstall a certain directory or privatesms.exe? (maybe where they were stored?)

any other suggestions where i can search?:):):confused::rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Just try your phone search (messaging) check if that shows your missing messages
[Windows Mobile Software Development] blackout1:
haha you won't guess, found your email you just send thought this thread:)

nothing more....

Also searched on sms but nothing found:(

any other suggestions? did you get my message with the rules.db? this afternoon? ir did i send it too the wrong person:S

lost the email with where i could send it:(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] blackout1:
maybe i send you better the whole smsrule dir?

i'm also trying to get the dir back after removing it, normally i use rstudio but now the file system is strange tfat and no regular fat:( so the app won't recognise the file system, too bad:(
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
yes got that but it was empty
[Windows Mobile Software Development] blackout1:
I also remember, i made myself a map!

I tried to smsrule the specific person to that map (which i made myself)

can it be a problem that the program wants to make it's own map? so therefor the messages will dissapear?

i'm just trying to find a solution:)):D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
What do you mean by map? i didnt get it:confused:

also i see some copy and move rules but no hide rules there...

IF you were using thread mode and ran "move rule" it might have deleted the smses and recovering it cannot be a option now.

What device you have? I think you had mentioned but i am in no mood to go back in posts, it is already 4AM here i need to sleep:o :D

Well i suggest in case your device is HD like and you are using HTC sms please read some of the previous threads they might point something. In case you never backed up your sms, ask some one from xda and not in this thread on how to get back SMS or at least is it possible?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ctrlaltdel:
hide sent items possible?

hi, just tried this app and is very nice.

i can set up rules to hide incoming sms from a specific number that is not in the contact.

just wonder if it is possible to filter the sms that i send to specific number? i tried to reply the sms inside private folder but the sent sms still leave a copy in the sent folder.... can this be hide as well?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
You can go to Tools, select "Sent Items" from Filter Folder, and tap on "Filter Sent Items" button. By doing so, you are applying existing rules on the Sent Items folder. This process can only be performed manually.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] ctrlaltdel:
thanks , I will keep using this method from now ....

it will be nice if auto hide sent items can be implement in later release
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
yes that is right but for that i should have time...n motivation :o
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Santaria:
Is there a way to have Filter Rules delete old SMS or move old ones on the fly?

What I need is something, or Manila, to archive or delete any old messages once the conversation cap hits 60 or so.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
No this app has no such feature. But in my signature u can find my other app SMSSyncUp which impliments a similar feature + backups the sms to your email account.

Thanks,

Mohit
[Windows Mobile Software Development] Santaria:
Thanks for your fast reply. The lag from opening up conversation mode after 50+ is starting to do my head in. Guess I'll keep looking, or hope something comes up that fits my needs ;)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
In that case y dont you take a look at my other app... that should solve your problem.. i think so:o...Never checked that one for threaded mode SMSes :p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] PixiePimptress:
I downloaded the app and it says I need a newer version of Framework can anyone direct me to a link for this download

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
http://tinyurl.com/yylptzo
[Windows Mobile Software Development] izoel:
hi mohit, thanks for the great app, really love it :)

I have a suggestion for your next release, can you hide the notification message on taskbar while receiving message? I've tried mobiion magical and its perfect in hiding notification message but it doesnt have your great private message facility

thanks