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[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Mohit - It's great that you are working on the first one, as that seems to be the same feature I requested also. Thanks!

I noticed that when your app is intercepting the incoming sms, it takes all the CPU usage and shows the animated busy cursor. Is that normal? Can't it be more transparent?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Yes donfano i am working on the features you have suggested, adding scroll bar to the contact names is completed.

well regarding the performance that is normal; i had made some modification for performance issue but they don't seem to be working. any ways I will be doing some further changes to make it low on CPU. Hope they work out:o

Thanks,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Can this be a possibility that may be you had defined some rules that were conflicting. Like one message rule and one contact rule! Just wondering:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I only had one rule at a time, as I am still on testing mode:rolleyes:

By the way, I almost went crazy yesterday trying to figure out what happened to my sms threading. Sometimes, it was on, and sometimes not:confused:. I did not stop turning on and off the registry key for it and rebooted several times....... UNTIL:eek:.... I noticed that the sms threading is turned off when your app is on autorun. Dude, you could have told me!:D I think it would be nice to have this documented before someone else would go crazy over it.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
noooo:confused: i have not changed any thing related to threaded messages. the only thing i modified in registry was the notification. I am disabling the SMS notification when in autorun mode.

The key which i change is

[ HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings ]

"SMSAvailable"=dword:1/0

for thread mode i have

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM

"SMSInbozThreadingDisabled" 1

which i dont change using my app

and this i have mentioned in first post.(just that i am disabling the notification ion autorun)

so what key you change to enable/disable thread mode?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I have the autorun off now, and the threading is on. I am turning the autorun on now, and the threading is off.

If I look at the registry:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]

"SMSAvailable"=dword:0

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM]

"SMSInboxThreadingDisabled"=dword:0

I am turning the autorun off, and I am looking at the registry:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]

"SMSAvailable"=dword:1

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM]

"SMSInboxThreadingDisabled"=dword:0

Hmmm...:confused:... How is the threading affected when the value of SMSInboxThreadingDisabled remained unchanged?!?? I probably "broke" something with all the hacking I did yesterday. I need to backtrack... Anyway, this is not your problem! It's mine, so I'll figure this one out by myself. Thanks and sorry for blaming your app!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
no prob take a look at this

I have started to learn:o
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I have run several tests, and my conclusion is that disabling WM notification, i.e.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]

"SMSAvailable"=dword:0

also causes the threading to be off.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
hmmm so no one is responsible... :D

ny suggestions... :o
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
We should blame MS for confusing all of us... :D

Thinking....:o

The purpose of stopping the WM default notification is to display your custom notifications for the rules applied. Right?! I was thinking that there must be another registry key to turn off the VM default notification. I am referring to the "Display message on screen" option that can be turned off from Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Event: Messaging: New Text message
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
SMS Rules updated 4.3 out

V4.3 is out with 2 new features and one new shortcut.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi Donfano,

this suggestion has been implemented in 4.3. But before you test 4.3 plz ensure that you uncheck the Autorun option from4.2, aslo plz confirm if this mod is working.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Requests Implemented

now you can apply rules to other folders also.

and a new shortcut is created to directly show/hide private folder
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I'll be more than glad to test.:)

I just hope you didn't have sleepless nights just to get this version out!:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
The time for busy cursor has been reduced, now you should not see a lot of activity when a message is intercepted.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hmm well kind of sleepless night but compensated with sleepy day.:D

Please test especially the notification part for you as i am not sure it is valid for all devices.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Mohit - I have more good news than bad news!:o

Let's start with the good ones::)

+ The change with the disabling/enabling of the NW notifications works for me!:)

+ Thanks for the horizontal scrollbar added to the contact list! It's very helpful.

+ The new shortcut to access the private folder is very very helpful. Thank you!

+ There is a good improvement in the time for busy cursor. Thank you!

Now the bad news::(

I'm having the problem to retrieve my hidden sms again. Here are the steps I took:

1. installed 4.3 without any problem - 4.2 got uninstalled without any problem

2. created a rule to hide sms from someone

3. set autorun

4. closed app

5. ran rule using shortcut

6. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden

7. opened private sms shortcut -> password failed

8. closed private sms window

9. opened create rules shortcut

10. went to About > Menu > Personal > Show - I got prompted for new password, and that would explain problem at step 7

11. typed in new password - it did not ask me to enter password again for confirmation!!!

12. closed app

13. received 1 sms to be hidden

14. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden

15. opened private sms shortcut -> very handy!!! :)

16. looked at PRIVATE folder - the folder is empty, and the sms is not found anywhere

17. closed tmail

18. closed private sms

19. received 1 sms to be hidden

20. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden

21. opened private sms shortcut

22. found the hidden sms in Deleted Items folder

23. closed tmail

24. closed private sms

25. received 1 sms to be hidden

26. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden

27. opened private sms - PRIVATE and Deleted Items folders are empty

28. disabled autorun

29. did a soft reset

30. enabled autorun

31. received 1 sms to be hidden

32. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden

33. opened private sms - it was found in the Deleted Items folder

I have a question about the new feature under Tools. You replied to another user that now he can apply rules to other folders also. I do not see how that can be done. I see Archive and Filter folders that can be selected, but then I have the options to click on the Filter button or Archive button. There is no option for me to select, which rules I would like to apply on these selected folders. Perhaps, this is totally different to what I have requested.

My request was to be able to apply rules on Sent Items where I would like to move or copy sms sent to someone. At the moment, rules are applied to Inbox for incoming sms.

Thanks,
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Confirmation password is asked only when changing the password :o

Thanks for the details. Seems it happens when a brand new installation is done. One more question when u uninstall does rule.db also gets deleted? all the rules and password are stored there, since you said it asked you for the password again; did you delete the whole folder or it automatically deletes it?

By applying the rules to other folder i meant that it will apply all the rules which were created by the user for inbox. There is no such provision as of now too apply specific rules for different folders. It will filter other folders with same rules as for Inbox and it wont autorun it is manual.

The custom folder rules will not autorun application will keep filtering the inbox only. Filtering custom folder is only manual.

Thanks,[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the details i will work on it soon.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I think it would be a good idea to confirm for new password as well. This avoids unfortunate typos.:)

I did not delete anything. The uninstall must have deleted the rule.db file.

I think I understand what you are saying, but I will need to run a test to see if this is what I think I need.

Until then, I might need to abstain from hiding any important sms.:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
I tried it. I emptied my private sms folder and ran it. But works fine for me!!! :confused: tried several times several ways... still runs fine... i m trying to fail myself LOL... :)

also when i uninstall my old version the rules.db remains there so i don't have to create my rules again.:cool:

Since rules.db it is not in cab, it gets generated when app is started so it should not get deleted when uninstalled. dont know why it gets removed from your device.

Well now i am gonna test it on my emulator.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] GR6813X:
Very good job is what I was looking for a long time.

Is there any way to change the language?

xml, ini or similar it would be interesting to change it.

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Sorry there is no option till now. I am concentrating just on functionality for the time being. Maybe when it is stable we can look into this.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Tried again on emulators... still working...LOL
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I uninstalled the app completely to reinstall it from scratch. I did not keep the rule.db file because I wanted to start with a clean install. I followed similar steps as I did last time, and this time I seem to get a consistent result as follows:

1. the rule intercepts the sms to be hidden

2. the rule reports the sms is hidden

3. opening the private sms shows the sms is stored in the Deleted Items folder instead of the PRIVATE folder

4. reopening the private sms shows the sms is neither in these two folders.

The behaviour I am seeing makes me think of how the message gets destroyed in the Mission Impossible movies:p... "This message will be destroyed (instead of stating the number of seconds) after you close this app":D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
May be it doesnt work in threaded mode...:confused: are you having thread mode enabled??

If yes could you try with disabling it first:o

Lemme know... i think i have mentioned this as a bug in first post. This will confirm it.:p
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Of course I do have the thread mode enabled!:) That was the whole issue when I reported to you that when your app disabled the WM notifications, it also disabled the thread mode. Remember?:D

I will give it a try to disable the thread mode and see if the hiding rule works.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
I just ran a test, and it works if the thread mode is disabled.:o The way you disabled the WM notifications before does disable the thread mode automatically. Why can't this work with thread mode enabled? I mean right now it does work, but it is just placed in the wrong folder.:confused:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
hmm no idea well need to run some test on my device then. It seems something :confused: gets modified when we change the message mode. No idea:o

Well i was using some ideas from other developer who used this trick to hide the SMSes maybe he or the developer who made the mapinet lib can point something... lezz see
[Windows Mobile Software Development] GR6813X:
It was just a suggestion but of course first is the functionality.

Thanks for your great work. :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] nex7er:
Can you auto-reply sms to certain contacts with this?

Example: You get into a ONS, other person steals your number and keeps texting you. You want her/him/it to go away but the person is persistant. Is it possible to then have it either block, or autoreply to every sms from said person?

Would be awesome.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
This app does not have the feature to auto reply. It can either move, copy or hide the incoming sms.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
also delete the messages... just to add in.

Thanks donfano for replyin :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi donfano,

I tried it in my device by turning on the thread mod. but it is working.!!! U had any other finds?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
You got it working with the thread mode on :confused:

Does your app have a way of producing a trace? I don't understand why it places the sms in the Deleted Items folder. Is it possible it was not able to access the PRIVATE folder?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] donfano:
Mohit - You'll never believe that the hiding rule works fine now with the thread mode on. What did I do? Well, I am not sure!:rolleyes:

After trying to figure out what is going on, I decided to simply leave the thread mode off to make sure I don't lose my private sms. Yesterday, I ran more tests because I was wondering what could happen if I turn the thread mode back on now that I already have some sms in my PRIVATE folder. Will the new sms still be stored in Deleted Items and will I lose the ones in the PRIVATE folder? I ran a test, and the new sms got stored in the PRIVATE folder, and no sms was lost.

I thought then if the problem occurs if the PRIVATE folder is empty. I then emptied the PRIVATE folder, but the problem did not occur.... It seems to me that the resolution would be to turn off the thread mode the first time using the hiding rules, and then turn the thread mode back on. Let's leave it to this! I have spent more than enough time on it, and I was the only one who was having the "problem":rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hmm :o really confusing... cant figure out still.

nywayz all is well that ends well:cool: so happy filtering... and any more suggestions are always welcome.:D, thanks for testing. :)
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eddaredevil:
# folder

Great application!

Where can I find the messages that are in the # map

How can I restore the messages in the # map?

(I'm using threaded sms)

Thanks :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
hi,

hope u have gone through the FAQs at first post.

well # means hidden messages. to restore those open CreateRules GUI go to about tab-> menu -> personal -> show it will ask you to set a password if you havnt

when that is done it will open a new frame where it will show two buttons one will be showe private folder click that and all the hidden messages will be present in the PRIVATE folder of messaging application.

then later on you can use the privateSMS shortcut for the same thing.

Hope u get it :D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eddaredevil:
Thanks for you're reply,

I think I wracked it already :P

I deactivated the thread sms.. rebooted and lost my test sms.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] eddaredevil:
Thanks for you're reply

Think I wracked it changing the threaded sms mode to not threaded.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] evgeniy_v:
Hello,

when I used RuleSMS v.4.1 I created subfolder "Test1" in "Private" This folder was hide/unhide together with "Private". Unfortunately, after update RuleSMS to v.4.3 this feature don't work and subfolder "Test1" was lost after hide/unhide.

May be You can add in your program support more then one "private" folders?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] astrolabio:
Hide sms sent

Hallo,

Congratulations, your program is great!

I created the rule to hide sms of a contact, but I can also create a rule to hide the sms I send to that contact?

Excuse my English ..:(

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Thanks astrolabio,

i hope you have downloaded v4.3, in that version u have an option in CreateRules program tools tab to run the rules in any selected folders and you have to do this manually if you want to apply rules to your other folders just as in your case.

(This wont run automatically)

Just select the sent folder in Filter folder dropdown and then click filter button,

ALL

the rules will be applied to your sent folder including hidden rule.

Thanks

Mohit
[Windows Mobile Software Development] astrolabio:
Many thanks mohitsapru, it's all very clear now.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] anand_verma22jan79:
Recover Password

i just installed it but not able to login into privatesms screen. it shows wrong password. pls help !!!
[Windows Mobile Software Development] anand_verma22jan79:
finally able to login.... but not able to configure it. How to create a rule for "hiding messages from a particular contact and how to see it. How to set the notification"......
[Windows Mobile Software Development] anand_verma22jan79:
also, i cannot see "private folder" after giving password in the "privatesms". i need to create the "#" folder manually????
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
I suggest you to go through the FAQs first.

if there is still something u are not able to figure out or not clear i will be more than willing to help:D
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
v4.3a

minor updates

v4.3a

Keep all 3exes under a single folder(SMSRules) under programs Programs

Added a slider control in PrivateSMS application to fetch number of private smses it should display. Keeping it low will display the last one and maximum will show all.

This was done incase you have alot of Private SMS it used to take time to show them, this option reduces the time by limiting the number of smses you want to see
[Windows Mobile Software Development] pvbangodi:
how to create sms folder

hi,

kindly guide me on to create sms folder
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
what help exactly you want was it not there in FAQs?
[Windows Mobile Software Development] anand_verma22jan79:
Let me explain you what I have achieved till now and where i am facing problem

1. I Installed the application and created a password for me.

2. I created a contact rule "HIDE all mesg from X".\

3. Set the rule to autorun.

Problem facing.

1. When i get SMS from X, it is still going to the HTC messages. "runrules" is running in background.

2. Sometyms the messages doesnt come up at all.

3. when i click SHOW in "Privatesms", i cannot see any # folder in dropdown list. it still shows all default folders.

Hope you understand my problem. What i want to achieve is to HIDE message from my friend and keep it secret.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Hi Anand,

To answer your problem, applying rules does take time and it can sometimes show temporarily in the HTC messaging app. still trying to solve it.

also there is no # folder as mentioned in FAQs also, show private sms will create "

PRIVATE

" folder. lemme know if still you have any questions.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] anand_verma22jan79:
Its almost 1 hr when i ran the rules in background. Jst tried and get the message again in HTC message window.

Please help me ... i need this feature urgently by today. I am really impressed by the tool but want to use it also
[Windows Mobile Software Development] anand_verma22jan79:
I mannually run the "run rules" and this tym the message got moved from HTC messages. But where it gone i dont know. I cant see it in the PRIVATE SMS window too.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Are you using threaded mode SMS? and what is your devices spec?

Just confirm the steps

1. u create a new rule in Contacts Rule tab to "HIDE" messages from X, this option should disable the folder list so that u r not able to select any destination folder it will save the hidden message rule under a virtual folder #.

2. verify the rule in existing rule tab. this rule should be under # folder

wait for a private message or manually run rules to hide your existing messages in inbox.

Notification should popup letting u know how many messages were processed under different rules(did u get that notification?)

Once every thing is done go to PrivateSMS app and provide the password which u have set up through the CreateRules GUI.

This should create a new folder named "PRIVATE" in tmails folder and all the messages should be present there.
[Windows Mobile Software Development] anand_verma22jan79:
I have done exactly the same steps u mentioned. Yes i can a notification messages about home many messages are processed.

After this i went to privateSMS and provide the password. There is no PRIVATE folder exist. Thats is making me curious abt where i am wrong.

I am using HTC diamond 2 with Nhatoea rom with 6.5.3 windows mobile installed.

I am using "traditional mode" not "conversational mode" in HTC messages
[Windows Mobile Software Development] mohitsapru:
Ok so there is some thing wrong maybe a bug!

well the notification you got, did it mentioned the number of messages it HID. This will let you know how many messages were processed.

Ok so we can test one more thing to figure out if it is a bug.

Open CreateRules first tab, ContactRules goto menu click Add Folder give some random folder name and check thru sms app if that folder has been created if there was no error....

and yes one more thing if you

close the PrivateSMS or CreateGUI it will hide the PRIVATE folder again so you need to keep these apps open in case you closed them before opening the private folder.
[Touch HD General] allymonty:
Hey,

Just had a wee browse on the android marketplace and came across the Layar augmented reality browser which is now fully avalliable, anyone know if this is kicking about for windows mobile at all?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Spike™:
Looks very nice mate, thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dafunk2:
Thanks Spike.

It's an honor for me if a master like you tells me that he likes it. :D

Thanks again mate ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Mikenif:
Looks awesome dude!

Hope we can expect some more varients from you
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dafunk2:
Thanks Mikenif :)

I hope to have some time to keep updated and maybe make it for other OSes or make it in other versions....but this are my first attemps with SYS files, and I'm also starting to "play" with Manila files :mad::mad:, so I need a lot of time to spend for our beloved Blackstone :D.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] hmmhmm1222:
working so far great on 23085, havent had any missed calls or sms or so , but just after installing looks great :D great job!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dafunk2:
:D:D:D:D

Good to know.....so it seems to work with no problems in OS 23085 too.

Thanks for testing ;)

Ciao
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] gfreek:
Nice work Dafunk! It's nice to see variations of Brians taskbar! I particularly like your take on the battery icon!:)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] cerato:
Thanks Dafunk. Enjoy. Lil tweakie mikie and it works with 21869 and 21872 :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dafunk2:
WOW :D:D:D

Thanks gfreek, like I told Spike before....when a master like you or Spike like something of "mine", I can only get pleased, really!

My first attempt with the taskbar was to "explore" your taskbar files to look what was inside, LOL :D:D

Thanks again mate..... and hope I can see you soon to work again ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dafunk2:
Great!! :D.....I'm going to update the opening post.

Thanks cerato, you are a friend ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] grzegorz10:
Excellent Job, these are of such a high standard, well done.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] cerato:
My pleasure, but atm it's gsm only. For CDMA edit the foll file attached

p.s For future builds if there isn't major changes just edit HTC VolumeControl.dll

Grtz