yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Helbore:
I guess I don't consider the first-gen hardware with second-gen software truly "first-gen" anymore!

That's what I meant by my comment. iPhone 1.0 (as it initially came out) didn't support Exchange Activesync at all. As per the comment I was replying to (that the 3G had PIN support but the earlier models didn't) my point makes sense - ie. if the 3G has a software update to support the security features, so can the earlier model iPhones, if they get said update.

But the earlier gen iPhone SOFTWARE had no support for Exchange. It was the primary reason I passed on an iPhone when they first came out.

But as for the OPs point, it does seem rather ridiculous that Android isn't going to support Exchange security policies. Just like the iPhone's initial lack of Exchange support, the lack of this ability will seriously limit Android's market penetration into the business sector. IT department's aren't going to want to turn off their PIN enforcement policies, just becuae the employees want to buy Android phones. Bad choice on Google's part.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] chriscpritchard:
Actually, it originally "supported" the security policies by claiming that it did, then not actually supporting them, then the software update came out which enabled full support on the 3GS and disabled support on 2G and 3G :)

edit: I got my college to add a seperate security policy for my android phone, but that's probably because I'm on good terms with the IT staff
[Hero, G2 Touch General] henrik.gundersen:
Absolutely true. I asked our global department (in charge of the exchange servers), and got a big fat no. I was definitely expecting a no, but had to try :). Gaping security hole and all that.

Anyway, this was an Android thread, not an iPhone comparison thread. We can conclude with that Apple learned its lesson after some time, and Google apparently didn't pay attention in class. Lets hope they just fix it.

Issue is at 70 stars currently. Thanks a bunch!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YuYe:
Ok I get to choose a new phone by T-Mobile but in Holland they only have these:

T-Mobile G2 Touch (HERO)

T-Mobile Pulse

T-Mobile G1

Now I have a G1 and what would you recommand me to get.

Pulse has a nice UI but is it worth it.

Hero looks sweet has more internal mem but is it worth it.

G1 that one just rocks, but 2x.....

So any help would be usefull
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kusotare:
For what its worth, you dont HAVE to get a new phone right now just because you have the option for a discount. T-Mobile doesnt close the window on your discounts just because you wait. In my opinion, you oughtta just stick it out with the G1 for a few more months. When the android 2.0 source is released, I have a feeling that the ROM cooks are going to have some nifty new toys for us to play with, and if you're already rooted, theres a timesaver right there.

Also, with things like the Acer A1 coming down the pipe (in case you havent been following, it has a 1GHz snapdragon processor) and certainly more equally powerful phones to be seen over the next few months, why waste your money on something roughly equivalent to the G1 or only a *little* bit better when waiting a short while could yield you a much much more powerful device.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YuYe:
thnQ for quick reply.

Yeah i am following the new developments bout the snapdragon and the new android phones comming out.

HTC, Sony Ericcson, Motorola, Acer, Dell, Samsung

All are comming out with phones this year or comming year with snap's.

But I think you're right I'd better wait a while.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fkfbosco:
Could anyone make a WM6.5 Clean Rom in Traditional Chinese?

Most of the phone in Hong Kong do not support 10E=.="

We need 10A/B/C/D...

:(

phone model:

LG KS20
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] rossomike1966:
hello, i have a problem with camera of my HTC HD (ORANGE); it does not works; so, after many flash(cooking rom) i decided to flash the original HTC ROM ORANGE (the 1° edition); the camera works with a click but the screen to show me the image is black; and at this time appear an error that say to me that there is a problem with "file device.exe"...!!!!

How can i try to repair this??

thank you to all
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
can tp2 playback hd video?

atleast 720p resolution???

it wud b great

since tp2 has dedicated graphics chip

and may be if we can overclock it!!

it wud be really nice to show off to frends its capability

plz reply i will b getting it after few days

thanks so much in advance
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ohyeahar:
I think it's safe to say that it's impossible to play anything at 720p since our device's screen resolution is "only" 800x480 (720p=1280x720). That being said, video at or above our device's native screen res looks absolutely gorgeous (much better than the iphone's 480x320). You'll need to invest in Coreplayer if you want to watch anything though since the built-in player is very limited in the formats it supports.

Check out the last part of this video for some more info on video playback of the TP2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
yes bro i had seen tat review before

it states max 720*480 i guess

neways its still cool though my old UNIversal did tat too very well

was expecting a bit more

neways thanks for the reply
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Shasarak:
In theory, if a device were powerful enough, it could play back a 720p video and downscale it to the resolution of the TP2 screen on the fly. However, the TP2 doesn't even come close to having that kind of power. (The HD2 might).

CorePlayer will play a much wider range of video formats than the inbuilt video apps, but it's not free (costs $30) and, annoyingly, it's unable to make use of GPU-acceleration on the TP2. The same applies to all video player apps except the built-in ones - they run on the CPU only. This means you are rather restricted in terms of resolutions and bit-rates.

If you want something that will play a wide range of video formats and which doesn't cost any money, try TCPMP - you'll need the version from this post. When installed, choose DirectDraw as your video rendering method, then go into the DirectDraw settings page and tick the box that says "use blitting instead of overlays". TCPMP is significantly slower even than Coreplayer, but it does at least support AC3 audio, which Coreplayer doesn't, and, as I said, it's free.

However, for the best playback quality you should convert your videos into .MP4 format (on your desktop PC) and then play them on your TP2 using HTCAlbum. This is fully hardware-accelerated and can easily handle 800x480 mp4 videos (i.e. the TP2's full screen resolution) with a respectable bit-rate (e.g. 750kb/s). If you go to this thread or this one you will find two different desktop PC applications that are designed to convert videos into the optimum format for playback on a TP2 or Touch HD. The conversion can take quite a while, depending on the speed of your PC, but the results are very good, especially for HD source material.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] aldamon:
There is no point in running 720P video on a 3.6", 480 x 800 screen. Properly encoded XVIDs look and run great on the screen and take up a fraction of the space on the memory card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Shasarak:
There is every point: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4891185&postcount=168

And what were you planning on playing an 800x480 xvid with on the TP2? You certainly can't use Coreplayer or TCPMP.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hanson68:
On a practical level, it's easier for me to batch transcode multiple 720p sources while I'm at work and then load, say, multiple 130MB and 400MB files onto an 8GB memory card that stuffed with mp3's and other videos than to copy just a couple of 2GB-4GB HD movies. I can understand your point about the practicality of having one file to deal with, but that's impractical on other levels simply due to file size.

The OP was referring to watching 720p videos on the TP2 in HD resolutions because the horizontal resolution is 800. It was pointed out that it doesn't work like that.

I've watched 624 X 352 xvid encoded avi's from HD sources and they aren't any less sharp than 800 X 480 transcoded mp4 files.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lord_BlackAdder:
Some digital cameras like Sony TX1, etc already capture video in 1280x720p mp4 format. So it would be great if TP2 can play these smoothly. That would eliminate the need to re-encode videos that is very time consuming. And I can keep the same file for playback on both the phone as well as on computer and TV. At present, the hardware seems not powerful enough for TP2 to play these without dropping frames. When phones that come with with Nvida ION chips arrive, that would solve the problem. Adobe and NVidia have demonstrated how their chipset can play back full 1280x720p Flash video (H.264) at 30fps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
yeah i agree but its not about space

i mean a small music video which i wud like to share with everyone,etc

Samsung Omnia HD plays back these videos easily though it has a 800mhz proccy and a more powerful graphics chip but still i was eager if its possible!!

it wud surely help to carry some small HD video files than whole movies
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] aldamon:
Thank you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cproaudio:
My Tilt 2 has trouble playing divx at 624X352 at full screen. My old Tilt can play the same 624X352 divx with no trouble at full screen. Both phones are using the same coreplayer with same settings. It looks like the Tilt 2 has trouble scaling 624X352 to full screen. The video looks pretty smooth on the tilt 2 if I play it portrait. Once I maximize the video to landscape full screen, the video stutters. I lighly doubt that Tilt 2 will able to play anything high def smoothly. I've also tested the same video on my friends BlackjackII. Her phones plays the same video smoothly at full screen. In case anyone wants to know Tilt 2 has 528mhz process while Tilt has 400mhz and BJII has 260mhz.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
i searched google and to my astonishment, this TP2 still doesnt have the graphics acceleration?????!!!!!!!!!

holy **** why did i order this handset!!!

feeling like doomed, i was well off with my old faithful universal
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hanson68:
That's not surprising, since the Tilt's 640 x 480 screen necessitated letterboxing, so it didn't have to scale the video up. With a 800 x 480 screen, the video has to be upscaled on the fly.

That said, I can play the same xvid files you're talking about smoothly albiet with a dropped frame here and there (sound is perfect). This is with Coreplayer on my Sprint TP2. I have around 120MB of free storage memory -- I know that low storage memory can affect performance.

Why can't HTC just install 1GB of internal storage memory for all of their phones already? At least I have way more storage memory on the TP2 than the Diamond, but then again, I've only had the TP2 for 10 days.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ayaskant12:
WHEN DID THE TILT/KAISER GET 680*480 screen???

its the plain ugly 320*240 screen
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hanson68:
You're correct, I was thinking the tilt was the touch pro since the tilt 2 is the touch pro 2. The tilt is the mogul.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] sim-value:
Meaning Theoretically things /roms applying for 32B should also work on the G1 ?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] apacheo:
Exactly the same, except for the lack of physical keyboard on the G2.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] sim-value:
Thanks!

This helps me because ive already read much 'bout saphire hacking but my brother is now going to get a G1
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] tazz9690:
the mytouch also has more ROM so you can store more apps, so the need for apps2sd is irrelevant.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] phatmanxxl:
unless you like to put a ton of apps on your phone like me, I prefer apps2sd. I didn't use it at first and maxed out the stock ROM the first day I got the phone. and yea most of the g1 roms for the dream should work fine on the MT3G. the devs usually specify 32b compatible somewhere in the first post.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] klash:
I know theres a thread on the Touch pro 2 Car mount but i dont know if any of those mounts work for the Tilt 2. I'm looking for something that fits nice and clips to the vent sturdy and also can rotate to landscape. I searched and searched and googled and cant find anything remotely good.

I bought a universal one but it was garbage :(

I know Proclip / brodit makes great car mounts but i cant justify paying 70 bucks for a car mount. ( 35 for the mount and 30 for the car mount part )

Sorry for making a new thread for this but i see a ton for the Touch pro 2 and still dont know if those will work with the tilt 2. Thanks for the help in advance
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] klash:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...964413&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_4013wt_939

Anyone know if this will work with the Tilt 2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] djsiva:
dash mount

Best one I've found.... I hate Best Buy but they were the only ones in town with a decent mount. It was 24.99, a little more than I wanted to spend, but well worth it.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Xentris...lack/9072399.p?skuId=9072399&id=1218022585746

Nate
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] ilordvader:
They should make a Better one

with charging dock like other Phones have
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] DarienA:
These days it seems like you're pulling teeth in terms of getting accessory developers to develop accessories for any non-iPod/iPhone devices...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] ilordvader:
This is the Bets one I found till now - HERE

most adjustable
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] anit77:
I just ordered this one for a Tilt2. For $13 delivered it doesn't look to bad. I don't believe the TP2 exact fit ones will work with a Tilt2. I would be nice if one came out soon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] krystos:
Looks like my usual vendor, ProClip USA is developing one, but it is not ready yet. Check them out at:

http://www.proclipusa.com/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] anit77:
I've looked at the ProClip. It looks pretty good. The problem is I just can't see spending close to $80 for one. I upgrade phones every 12-16 months :) Hell, I only spent $99 delivered for my Tilt2...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] marcini:
how did you do that?

anyway, did anybody try this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-Charger-Mou...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item518daef061
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] anit77:
I did it here.

Again I'm weary of TP2 exact fit holders. That one is labeled for T7373, the Tilt2 is T7377. There is a small size difference. It does look decent though.

I drive a GMC Sierra and have been looking for a dash or vent mount. A windshield mount puts the phone out of arms reach.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] SacTilt:
Actually this one is available. I've already got one in my truck for my Tilt 2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] jtlyons:
be VERY careful with vent mounts. Your AC can make your phone cold causing it to condensate when you exit the vehicle and walk around outside ESP in high humidity areas thus voiding your warranty
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] moonwulf:
proclip

i bought the proclip car kit for the tilt. now i have the tilt2.

the car mount fits great, good location. i agree it is expensive, but replacing the phone holder for the tilt2 is half the cost. still great fit and location.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] DarienA:
Does the holder you're referencing allow you to rotate the tilt 2 from portrait to landscape?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] SacTilt:
I have the same holder, and yes it does. It also allows you to open the keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] kmartin888:
igrip

i have the igrip custom mount for my fuze, i like it a lot, and the mount detaches from the goose neck. they make several mount options that can connect to the custom clip. the have one for my mountain bike, so i can attach it on the trails and use some of the gps features with a program i downloaded here on xda. They also have some more solid mounts that dont move around as much as the goose neck. I am getting a tilt 2 real soon, as soon as my contract is up for upgrade... (next week).. would love to find a custom clip for it that works with the igrip mounting options, has anyone seen one. i dont see a custom clip for the tilt 2 on their website.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] kmartin888:
igrip

http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-Charger-Mou...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item518daef061

actually, just saw this one it looks like the same bracket as the igrip. that I have.

this is the one i have for my fuze

http://www.fuzedepot.com/igrip-custom-flexible-mount/3A78A5370.htm
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] klash:
Yeah i had a iGrip for the Fuze as well and i loved it. I am wondering if they say TP2 if they work with the Tilt 2. Im not sure if the specs are exactly the same or i would be buying this one here for sure

Take a look. Anyone know if this works with the tilt 2? I think i posted this earlier too and no one answered :(

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...964413&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_4110wt_939
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Mil3:
The one

:eek: I think that this one will do it for ya :D

http://www.buygpsnow.com/HAiCOM_Car_Mount_HTC_Touch_Pro2.aspx

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...M+Custom&hl=en&safe=off&sa=G&um=1&newwindow=1
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] klash:
So you are saying if advertised as Touch Pro 2 they will work with the Tilt 2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Nakel:
Just got mine. Works great with the Tilt 2. All buttons are exposed. Nice holder. Made well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Mil3:
I'll let you know as soon as I get it:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] ilordvader:
Can post some few Pics Please
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Nakel:
I'll get the pics on tomorrow. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Mil3:
The one!

Confirmed to work with Tmobile TP2 and at&t Tilt2 without a problem :D

Here is the link again

http://www.buygpsnow.com/HAiCOM_Car_...ouch_Pro2.aspx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] aichemist:
For this product, can you change horizontal and vertical at anytime when it sticks on. or tilt during horizontal mode? The picture isn't clear if it is turnable?

(my bad eyes haha)

http://www.buygpsnow.com/HAiCOM_Car_Mount_HTC_Touch_Pro2.aspx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Mil3:
Yes you can.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] vikramdhani:
Is it sturdy enough or there is a shake or fear of falling while driving the car ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] klash:
Well i finally got my mount from ebay!!! I must say this is a AWESOME mount and works with the Tilt 2!!! Im very happy with it. It also swivels to landscape mode and i can open my keyboard!!! VERY VERY Happy!!

i will post pictures later!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...964413&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_4110wt_939
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] ilordvader:
No real people with Photos here

Only Retailers selling there product
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] mistadj16:
Got the haicom holder and it fits my tilt2. It seems steady, no fear of it falling off while driving. It does block the power button but not a big deal since the clip that blocks it is spring loaded and can be moved easily. If u have a clear shield on ur phone, it may make getting ur phone in/out alittle harder since it creates friction. You can adjust the position vertically, horizontally, tilt up or down anytime. Hope this helps. I would recommend this product, it seems to be made well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] sixsevenco:
Hi, How did you confirm this works in the T-Mo TP2? Would you mind posting some pictures? I am need a windshield mount, and this mounts looks to be the best. (if it works, that is...)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] agentdr8:
I don't see how the Haicom couldn't work with any of the TP2 models. The way it holds the device is not dependent upon screen layout or button layout. My Tilt2 fits just fine, but all of the TP2 models have the same overall outer dimensions. As a bonus, the left side of the upper spring "clip" can be used to turn the phone on, since it rests right above the power button.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] :
http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-Charger-Mou...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item5ad51b14b5

bought this one - match with tilt 2 without any problem
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Techitrucker:
It does block the power button but if you tap the clip that blocks it, it activates the power button anyways so no harm no foul. I have had this mount since it came out in September and it has what must be the best suction cup ever. No fear of falling even in a big truck going down the Cross Bronx Expressway. No problem getting it out with the Invisible Shield on. I'm hoping I can get it to work with and Innocase. I'm thinking just a little bending after hitting it with a blowdryer should do. We shall see. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] meanvulcan:
I change my devices every 12-18 months too, but I want a mount that's quick and integrates a charger connector. There isn't a single generic mount out there that doesn't look bulky, doesn't require an extra step of squeezing the sides, or gas an integrated micro-usb connector. I've had ProClip for my previous device (Samsung Epix), and it has worked fairly well, but the attachment to the backplate does become loose with time and if you have a clear protector on the device (not just screen), it's near impossible to fit the device in without damaging the protector.

I'd be curious to see if there are alternatives. I may still buy the Haicom cradle and keep it in my luggage for travel purposes, but would like to see something more substantial for my car... Aren't there any others?

I saw a TomTom car kit for iPhone -- looks sweet, I wish there was a version for the Tilt 2/TP2. Or something similar to the HD2 car mount... that'd be darn nice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] ishkatar:
where you able to put it in landscape mode? is it sturdy enough?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] toadlife:
I bought a universal one at Target that clips to the vent for 19.99. It works like a champ. I don't see what that fuss is over having one specifically made for the TP2 - especially at the prices like $80.00.

Here is the one I bought.

I bought it with a little trepidation, but it has worked out perfectly. I am able to transfer between both of my cars very quickly and it rotates to landscape (there is a tension knob on the back) fairly easily.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] kimtyson:
Another vote for the HAiCOM Custom Car Mount for HTC Touch Pro2. It's priced right, good quality, and really does a good job.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] torint:
i custom made one from a bracketon mount and a belt clip plastic belt clip for the phone. works damn well. pictures by request.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] p51d007:
BOY! Isn't that the truth!

I went with a friend into an at&t store when she picked up her iPhone (couldn't talk her out of it). I wonder how long it will be before they rename the at&t store to the iPhone-AT&T store. You can't go 3 feet inside a corporate store

without running into something associated with the iPhone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] sirsaechao:
When I got my Tilt...I got the car kit that included the HTC car charger and car mount...I recently upgraded to the Tilt 2 and the car kit works for it but the phone is thinner...but when I put the Body Guardz on...it fit tightly.