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[Touch HD Android Development] pedrodebordeaux:
hi all

thanks for the works !

For me it's same at any peoples

" waiting for sd card " I 'll try with other card tomorrow

For information, i actualy use Energy ROM 6.5
[Touch HD Android Development] Domskibus:
Thanks for the update:)

Just one small "question": Is it possible, that you, mitikos, write down a changelog fot the new versions?!

It would interesting to know, what is done so far....
[Touch HD Android Development] mitikos:
What is done so fa? Is in the first post. Anyway i was also thinking to make a changelog, but the change are very fast (sometimes also more than once a day) and sometimes are just minor changes, not really visible to the end-user.

So i think is better to keep this type of updates, u can dayly check the 1st post for links changes and stuff.

I'll try to put some dates and hours everytime i change the 1st post from now on :)

Enjoy :)
[Touch HD Android Development] auss81:
We may specify date and hour..... but, as you said mitikos, it's really hard to update here a changelog every few hours! :p

The easiest way to be up to date about the project is to visit links in the first post and check for files' date and hour..... :)
[Touch HD Android Development] mitikos:
Anyway Moderators should unstick tuxhero's Thread and stick this instead...
[Touch HD Android Development] samsanchez88:
That would be great, just by knowing the date and hour of the realease one can always know if he/she's trying the latest release. A chengelog isn't necessary 'cause most of them would be "bug fix" or "... improved". Maybe when something big is changed it can be specified though.

Keep up the good work guys, the last releases are incredible!!!
[Touch HD Android Development] Domskibus:
Thank you very much:)

...Btw: Just an easy question: How can i type an adress in the Webbrowser?:confused:
[Touch HD Android Development] chasy:
wow .. i'm really impressed with the work you guys have done and the progress you make .. :) pretty cool!

unfortunately i don't have a blackstone/raph/diam :/

but i know there's also gonna be a port to the rhodium in some time :]

keep it up!
[Touch HD Android Development] nocomp:
hi folks,

don t you think it can get too messy to have everything in a single topic?

why not as modo fr have different sections for see what work/bug or install a bugtraker, i can host it for you if it can help,it s my way to participate ;)

contact me by pm if you are interested.

best regards
[Touch HD Android Development] ALF@be:
I have send a PM to the admins to ask them if they can make the change. :cool:

@+
[Touch HD Android Development] m.klinge:
So ive played around abit with it - and my toughts so far are its looking really good - still theres a few "bugs" i found that im unsure are mentioner erlier...

Regarding WiFi im completly unable to turn it on - i just gets the following text: "Unable to start WiFi". When i tries again i get the "Unable to scan for networks".

The keyboard sometimes are slow and dosnt show up, i dont know if its just caused by a slow sd card ^^

Calibration tool forces closes alot so im unable to calibrate correct resulting in misclickcs - nothing serious but would be nice to getting it fixed :)

The apn works fine after i manually set it resulting in both sms and internet works like a charm.

One other thing - is there a specific reason the end call button are used solely to turn off the screen? Id rather swich the function of the power and end buttons as i think it would make more sence (As its the button that closes applications) :cool:

Edit: Btw running the zimage from the 15.th

//M
[Touch HD Android Development] scholbert:
Hi phhusson,

thanks a lot for your reply.

Great to here that cr2 himself is going to rework the Epson part.

Hopefully i'll find the init of the display part inside kovsky SPL.

I'm struggling.... :o

Apart from that, i'm not that genuis in kernel hacking and no access to push patches to linuxtogo.

Will have a deeper look inside your repo at gitoriuos :D

Thanks!

P.S.: Heard something from dcordes?

Best regards,

scholbert
[Touch HD Android Development] Fallen Spartan:
I have unstuck Tuxhero's thread for the time being. We already have a large number of threads which are sticky and both this & Tuxhero's threads are added to everyday so would already appear near top of first page. At the moment I don't think we need to add any more threads to the sticky list

Rick
[Touch HD Android Development] mitikos:
I really dont agree... but u are the boss...
[Touch HD Android Development] patp:
Orux sent me a dump of this back in Feb, along with the Epson registers document. I can't find them but will see if he still has it.
[Touch HD Android Development] Fallen Spartan:
Well if you look at other forums (kaiser prob being biggest forums on XDA), most of these only have one or 2 sticky threads. I have accommodated a number of additional threads which I saw as worthy, and their may well be more but I don't want the whole first page full of stickies. I hope you understand my reasons. Also, I would find it hard to believe if this thread wasn't always on first page anyhow
[Touch HD Android Development] Bl@ck:
A couple of findings:

When in standby (deep sleep), like 70% of times, the phone needs a lot of time before waking up, around a minute or so after first power button press.

Always in standby, if a call is coming the phone doesn't wake up (he needs around 30secs), the ringer doesn't work but only vibration and usually i couldn't drop or pickup the call, same for sms the phone only vibrates but no sound.
[Touch HD Android Development] auss81:
About deep sleep and power button you right, It takes about 30 to 60 seconds.......

About incoming calls, I tested it a lot because I receive so many job calls :p , I leaved even the phone in deep sleep mode for about 20 minutes and when a call arrives it wakes up in about 5 to 10 seconds during wich there is no ring.... I haven' reached 30 seconds yet ;)

5 seconds for sms.

It is clear anyway that the system "sleeps too deep".... but I don't know about fixing.....
[Touch HD Android Development] mwchadwick:
I've just tried the latest zImage (dated yesterday - Tue 17th) and it does work better... WiFi is now working 100% for me :D

But, I'm having problem with the Android Market - keep getting a server error dialog with Retry and Cancel buttons... :confused: I've clicked on Retry many many times and still not got in to the Market :(

Anyone else experienced this? And/or have a solution?
[Touch HD Android Development] Bl@ck:
for me android market is working good, just some hangs here and there.

btw i've noticed that battery life is much much much better, this night i left the phone in standby and this morning i stil had more than half battery left, with older builds the battery was empty.
[Touch HD Android Development] Ingmar89:
Recognizable,

You need to reconnect your wifi (by switching it off and then again on). However the market will then again only work for a limited period of time after which you need again to reconnect your wifi.

I did manage to download a couple of apps this way, so it is doable for fun-sake.

Good luck!:D
[Touch HD Android Development] mitikos:
Fair enough...

I just dont se why u saw tuxhero's thread "worthy" to be sticky and this one not :)

There's no reason to flame about it :) is ok like this
[Touch HD Android Development] patp:
Tuxhero gamed the whole forum twice, including the mods. It shouldn't have been stickied and nor should this one in my opinion.
[Touch HD Android Development] kingofslide54:
Resistive multi-touch

Hi, men.

After having read lots of times that Blackstone doesn't support multitouch by hardware because it hasn't a capacitive screen, I've been wondering if it wouldn't be possible to implement a 'fake multitouch', as it's been done on other resistive-screen devices as Nokia 5800.

Technically, it seems possible, because blackstone screen can detect not only a (x,y) touch dot, but a range (min x , max x, min y, max y). You can see it if you try to 'multi-touch' the screen in android, in the 'finger pinting' api demo. (well, I tried it in Tux's distro, not in the last one). Even in WinMo, try to multi-touch the screen when drawing in 'notes' app. It draws a line just in the middle of the two fingers (if it could only track one (x,y) dot, it would draw either one finger line or the other, as it was in the prophet, for example)

Probably the screen doesn't tell which x matches which y, but it is easy to find out algorithmically.

The problem to have a working resistive multitouch in our blackstones, afaik, is that winmo api doesn't take more than one dot. I think donut doesn't, either. But if you devs are re-writing the screen drivers, you could please take this in account so when we finally have Android 2.0 in our devies, we could have some 'fake' but usable multi-touch features.
[Touch HD Android Development] Fallen Spartan:
ok, think enough time has been spent discussing whether this thread & tuxhero's should be stickied. Decision made, easiest solution...both aren't going to be. Now lets move on shall we.

Back on topic please :D
[Touch HD Android Development] Bl@ck:
Spartan play on android with us! hehe :D
[Touch HD Android Development] Fallen Spartan:
Something I've been looking at and discussing with a few other developers. Only reason I haven't so far is time constraints with being a mod, new baby & wife nagging I spend to much time on XDA as it is. My knowledge of Android is limited, this is why I've been talking to a few developers about it as its a front I would be willing to get into.

EDIT

Stuff it, I'll get Android on me device later tonight and have a play with it. Let me know if any of the team of linux experts on #htc-linux need a hand with anything
[Touch HD Android Development] skulk3r:
good idea, but honestly, i think the devs have enough on their plate getting Android 1.6 working, let alone 2.0, let alone "multi"-touch
[Touch HD Android Development] bs12345:
SMS

Hi..can someone please tell me where I can change the SMS server? I cannot send text messages via ATT USA.

Thanks.
[Touch HD Android Development] mwchadwick:
Still can't get the Android Market started... I get the following error in the ExceptionBrowser;

com.android.vending.api.FatalCommunicationException: Sent a bad request.

Anyone any idea what thats about? :confused: [Just to point out that I can use the Browser and Gmail both over 3G and WiFi - so shouldn't be a general connection problem]
[Touch HD Android Development] Marcus_de_zwarte:
nice one, first test tpday, i'm exploring it as we speak.

have restarted cople of times, and now my data connection is not connecting anymore.
[Touch HD Android Development] unstable_:
Problem with some SD Card

Hi guys, can you please fix the problem with sd cards (namely transcend, etc - 6 class cards)? For me it is the highest priority.. i can't run android and i think many people here too. I have 3 cards and all are 6 class :(

I think you can do it!
[Touch HD Android Development] idandush:
same for many others ......

it seams like its easier to ignore this , but the fact is we have many people that can receive SMS and can`t send them.

:eek:

oh , and for your question ... i dont know of any sulotion yet .
[Touch HD Android Development] samsanchez88:
This is a well documented problem that as of today has no definite solution, mainly because nobody's sure why only class 2 cards work.

That said, it's not really a very big problem; you can buy a class 2, 2gb card for very little money.
[Touch HD Android Development] Kenia1234:
Hey guys...I need your help...

I can't connect to Wi-Fi...I can't understand why...

that's the problem :

It scans for the networks...it can detect them...it make me write the WEP key...but it actually doesn't connect...

can someone tell me why??

At firs I thought that the PW was wrong...but then I tried both the 1st auto-generated WEP key by router and the password which the router changed into a WEP one...but the results it's the same :

"Acquiring IP Address" and soon after "Disconnect"

PLEASE HELP!!

I changed many times zImage and I tried with everyone!
[Touch HD Android Development] m.klinge:
On the image of the 17.th it seems i loose gsm connection everytime it goes into stand-by :(

And it seems abit more likely to freeze up than the earlier versions :(

//M
[Touch HD Android Development] kniffo80:
the same here. it's a problem with the latest zImage: Tue Nov 17 11:24:16 2009 +0100

The earlier one (from 15th of Nov) was working better!
[Touch HD Android Development] mcdull:
I don't have this problem. like previous version. wifi is not easy to bring back after sleep.
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
About that, can someone provide some debug info ?

Add pm.debug_mask=63 wake_lock.debug_mask=63 to cmdline in startup.txt

And upload the result of dmesg -s 1000000 somewhere.

To have correct (mono or multi) touch support, we need the report of pressure/radius, even if it doesn't seem so, using fingers need such things. And multi stylus isn't really useful i think.

It's not about "ignoring", the problem is solved for the majority by the SMSC fix using AT commands (search on diamond android thread, it has well commented.). For others (ok the only one i got debuging info (adb logcat -b radio if someones want to give some o ther.).), it seems to be a network problem, which leads to timeouts. I believe windows mobile workaround it by resending if sending fails, but android doesn't.
[Touch HD Android Development] Bl@ck:
right away sir
[Touch HD Android Development] artie16:
He phhusson

Here is my output file of "dmesg -s 1000000

greeting Art
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
This isn't the full output, use something like dmesg -s 1000000 > output.txt and then transfer output.txt

I should also have mentioned that you need to do a deep sleep before dumping the log.
[Touch HD Android Development] Cyclone_storm:
Please booth read the post guy's. I already told it doesn't connect good

through WEB. You need to change it to WPA or WPA2. I changed it to WPA2

and now it works perfect.:D:D:D
[Touch HD Android Development] nyzrox:
My phone wont come out of sleep!

I press the end call button and nothing :(
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
The only button able to make the phone goes out of sleep is the power button.
[Touch HD Android Development] artie16:
Alright! Had my phone in deep sleep and wake him up (takes a long time)

Then I went in Better Terminal and enter this:

dmesg -s 1000000 > sdcard/output.txt

Here the output
[Touch HD Android Development] nyzrox:
Power button does nothing.

Sometimes if holding the End call button it flicks on.
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
Ok thanks, this one is alright.

These logs are totally fine. It takes at most 2.5s (with a 0.7s average) for the kernel to end sleep.

So I guess it might be some caching problem with android, maybe it will be fixed with new memory layout.
[Touch HD Android Development] Bl@ck:
ok uploaded also my log, all the times i try'd the device started in a decent time 5-10 secs max after long pressing power button, so for me the problem is another... no one really knew that to wake up the device we've to LONG PRESS Power button instead than just pressing it 1 time like in winmo :D

btw, here's my log:
[Touch HD Android Development] Marcus_de_zwarte:
i have some sort of same "problem".

if you hold the home button longer it could boot up, or multiple tap.

i like the android OS, only the power drain is a huge NEG.
[Touch HD Android Development] Kenia1234:
Oh...really thanks!

So we can definitively say that Wi-Fi works well in every case except for :

WEP protected Access points

Isn't it??

I guess the developers should write this on the first page...

It's a bit important!!! :)
[Touch HD Android Development] phhusson:
I'm pretty sure it's wrong, everything should work the same way, there isn't that much differences between these systems. I'll check it. Anyway noone actually uses WEP anymore I guess ?
[Touch HD Android Development] Ingmar89:
Using a WAP2 protected WiFi point here, and it doesn't work that good for me yet.

It just keeps disconnecting

So i think this isn't a valid conclusion :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Kenia1234:
Really?? So we can't know what is actually wrong... :)

it seemed a bit strange to me indeed... :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Bl@ck:
i'm using WAP protection on my wifi and i can connect without problems and signal doesn't drop.
[Touch HD Android Development] motopaddy:
SMS working?

Hello,

Downloaded everything from the first post today (18-11-2009) and followed it step by step.

Can anybody help me figure out how to get sms working? Have made apn's for internet and mms, but still can't send messages...

Will try turning on airplane mode for a few minutes now. Hope that works.

WIFI turns on and connects to my home network, but i can't seem to connect to the internet though WIFI...

Thanks for the help!!
[Touch HD Android Development] Cyclone_storm:
Really strange then, I have literally tried it an hour long: Connecting,

disconnecting, connecting disconnecting. I have made connection 1 time and

I didn't even had Internet. Then I changed to protocol to WPA2 and it worked

instantly, and until now it still works. So what could it be then. :D:D:D
[Touch HD Android Development] Morden:
I've been trying to replace the built-in fonts with custom made ones in order to have Hebrew support in Android. When I try to copy over the existing files in the /system/fonts folder, it tells me that it's a read-only filesystem. Is there any way to get around that?
[Touch HD Android Development] EOTEROG:
Wifi worked for me only activating it on Windows, and then starting Haret (wpa).
[Touch HD Android Development] shah1237:
I am happy with the progress seen on porting android to blackstone.

the build is really good.

however the wifi does not work for me. :(

i formatted the card and installed everything again.

but unfortunately it does not work for me.:confused:

i will wait for next built to test it again.

but thanks for the efforts to get android on blackstone. :)
[Touch HD Android Development] roxz:
I am sill having problems with this is there a problem with my sd card?
[Touch HD Android Development] shankville75:
drop off the .txt. :)
[Touch HD Android Development] seanderr:
I also having the same problem . I cant message out but able to see incoming msg .
[Touch HD Android Development] mitikos:
I post just to put "up" this thread... or it desappers in second page...

People still post in tuxhero's thread and make confusion couse this is not sticked!
[Touch HD Android Development] Kenia1234:
Hey guys...I can confirm now!!

I changed the kind of protection from WEP (NOT WORKING) to WPA2 and now it's perfectly working!!

please notice that this problem should be written in the first post because it's not so simple to discover...

Cheers
[Touch HD Android Development] idandush:
Duncank , seanderr ,

to fix the SMS problem : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=433433

it should work , but i am from israel and i cant find what i should put instead of the numbers i already have now .

try it and let us know . also i think it would be best to post this SMSC fix in the 1st page .

Thanks :)
[Touch HD Android Development] mitikos:
ok :)

Enjoy :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Rizlo:
Draft for a FAQ. What do you think?

Q: If I run Android on my phone, will it wipe out Windows and erase my own brain too? I don't want to forget my mother's name.

A: No. Just soft-reset your device and you will get back to good ol' WinMo.

Q: So I can try out Android with no consequence at all?

A: Not exactly. There is a slight risk that your camera and/or your volume buttons stop working. A hard-reset will fix this anyway.

Q: My phone is stuck at boot, displaying "Waiting for SD Card". Should I commit suicide?

A: No son, just get out of your room and go buy yourself a Class 2 SD Card. Most Class 6 cards have been reported not to work.

Q: It boots! But I can't find a way to enter my SIM unlock code! What's wrong with my life?

A: Just boot Windows and disable the SIM lock. It doesn't work in Android, yet.

Q: My camera flash isn't working anymore

A: Ok, that was a joke. Got it.

Q: My battery lasts 15 seconds.

A: This is an early development stage, so the system is not really optimized for battery life. Uncheck auto-dimming in Windows and install toggledata in Android to save some power. Or keep the darn thing plugged to USB, for crying out loud.

Q: How can I setup my APN?

A: Go to Settings - Wireless controls - Mobile networks - Access Point Names; tap on your home button and on New APN.

Q: I set my APN but it doesn't connect! How can I live with the burden of this endless pain?

A: Reboot and restart Haret. Or try and fondle with the airplane mode, sometimes it works.

Q: I can receive SMS messages but I cannot send any.

A: Known issue, it may be network related. Try this workaround. Guy who posts this for the 10000th time doesn't win any prize.

Q: I can receive SMS messages but I cannot send any.

A: I said...

Q: I enabled WIFI but it's not connecting.

A: Try rebooting again. Also, it's been widely reported that it won't work on WEP protected networks, switching to WPA2 could solve the problem.

Q: When my phone goes to sleep mode there seems to be no way to bring it up again. Is it dead?

A: Press the power button. Again. And again. And again andagain andaggggain. Be patient, it will come up eventually.

Q: Android 2.0 is out!

A: We KNOW. Listen and repeat. WE KNOW. But devs are working on 1.6 for now, and getting that to fully work is their goal at the moment.

Q: Why can't we have the Hero skin on our device?

A: This is not really related to making Android work on the HD but anyway... that UI is designed for lower resolution phones. Go on a general Android forum for this kind of things.

Q: Is it gonna rain today?

A: I have to admit it's quite cloudy.
[Touch HD Android Development] aavan:
I love it !
[Touch HD Android Development] cardefbel:
Hi, anyone else has problems with movies and youtube. When I want to watch a youtube movie or other movie, it will play (I hear the sound) but I can't see the video (just a black screen).
[Touch HD Android Development] Cyclone_storm:
Yep really nice, looks a bit like my style. I made the one for Tux is Thread;).:D:D:D
[Touch HD Android Development] Rizlo:
You mean the "I BEG you not to ask this again" style? Yeah I know :)
[Touch HD Android Development] cherrro:
Hello!

Really fantastic "Android on blackstone". It just miss gps and camera, after that I think it will be perfect.

Real good work!

THX
[Touch HD Android Development] apolo23:
I wonder (stupid question, maybe...): since this port of Linux/Android uses some stuff from the underlying WiMo, doesn't it matter what ROM you are running?

BTW, what WinMo ROM is being used (underneath) to develop this port? As this is not standalone (you run Haret from WinMo and it uses stuff from the OS), my guess is that it should matter, at least when reporting "bugs"...
[Touch HD Android Development] zapbrannigan00:
Tried this on my Rhodium using the blackstone.txt as a startup - haret tries to boot linux but doesnt get any further than that. Know I'm in the wrong place, but does anyone know if this will work on Rhodium? Thanks...
[Touch HD Android Development] aavan:
Not it will not work on Rhodium...

There's a thread talking about that on the Rhodium section...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=521657
[Touch HD Android Development] Duncank:
Thanks for your solution, I've tried it and done the following:

- Launched the .exe in Windows Mobile and enterred "AT+CSCA?"

- That gives me +CSCA: "+31653131313", 145 0

- Then I enter AT+CSCA="+31653131313",145 and press Send, in the commander screen "0" gets added in the bottom half of the screen, on a seperate line.

Then I rebooted, and started Android, to find out that sending messages still doesn't work. The number for the SMSC is right, I know that for sure. The Phone Info (found by dailing *#*#4636#*#*) shows an empty field after SMSC. When I insert the SMSC number there and press update I'll get an "update error".

So, it's still not working...