yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] NZtechfreak:
I'm sure they'll be visible in certain conditions, I occasionally saw them on my Xperia X1.

I don't see the dots on my current i8910, possibly because its an AMOLED screen, but I do see the diamond pattern in certain conditions. I think its related to the screen being capacitive.

In both cases it wasn't something that bothered me in my use of the handsets at all.
[HD2 General] Xaddict:
Dots before your eyes

Matrix shmatrix.

There's no dots on my HD2 and I never saw any on my HD.

OK, so now I've seen the dots.

I was outside and the sun reflected off the screen and I could see clearly the matrix under the surface.

So what!!!

I would not have noticed it if not for the midday sun reflecting directly off it.

It does not affect the picture quality of the screen.

Camera ccd's are the same close up, but the picture can still be hi res.

If you look closely at film, you can see the sliver granuals.

Now I know it's all an illusion!
[HD2 General] riz157:
I've had my phone for 2 days and can definetly see solid diamond lines and dots when screen is off but only under certain light conditions and at a particular angle. Infact this was one of the first things i noticed when I took the phone out of the box, I was worried until I read others experiencing similar issues. O well nothing to worry about i suppose.
[HD2 General] leoni1980:
same here

I've had two HD2s in the past week and they both show the screen matrix. I noticed it immediately and i've never noticed any dots on my iphone under any lighting conditions....it does give off the appearance of dead pixels on white backgrounds to me and is a very minor distraction.

Incidentally I'm selling a brand new HD2 for £390 if anyone is interested. I'm based in Derby and would rather sell it on here than through Ebay owing to extortionate seller and Paypal fees.
[HD2 General] H2D2:
Check your pm ;)
[HD2 General] Xzeven:
I've got the Dutch HD2 the other day and and I have to say, you really REALLY have to be VERY anal to notice the matrix on the screen....that or looking at it at some weird angle.

Ive used this phone indoors and out in bright sun and dark night and only notice the matrix on the screen when its off, the sun shining at it while holding it away from me at about 45degrees. And AND even then its barely noticeable.

If anyone is afraid of buying the phone because of this screen matrix nonsense don't worry, it's (as far as im concerned) all over-hyped nonsense. That or the Dutch version doesn't have the problem of other versions?:)
[HD2 General] Archange1:
The thing is, my LG Prada has a capacitive screen and I've never seen any dot patterns on it (and something like that would really bother me).

Though perhaps just they're both capacitive screens doesn't mean they can still be very different screens...
[HD2 General] Fatherboard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCgBe2quYMk

0:27 to 0:33... It's clearly visible in this footage.
[HD2 General] livetag:
I have the HD2 and the G1, Both have visible lines if you are looking at them from extreme angles with a light source reflecting at you lol. HD2 has squares and dots and the G1 has horizontal wavy lines. How on earth do you expect them to know where your finger is without these I will never know.

In normal use you will NEVER see them, unless you like looking at black screens angled towards a light source ;p
[HD2 General] Azitrox:
Not a problem

YES , there is a matrix , but it is almost invizible.

I use my htc today as navigator , and I can`t notice this matrix in brite sunshine if the phone is on . If you turn off and look in certain angle , is barely visible .
[HD2 General] madindehead:
Let's put it this way. The matrix is there. Is NOT annoying. And it's really not a good reason to not buy this phone!
[HD2 General] only1shaz:
HTC HD2

Hi,

Do you still have the HTC HD2 available for sale?

Thanks,
[HD2 General] piflechien:
These dots were on the pre production units.

No dots on the retail ones.
[HD2 General] cfu:
Yep totally agree. it is there if you try hard to look for it and certainly more visible on plain dark areas. but when the screen is on its near enough invisible. in normal day use you will definitely not notice it. absolutely not a reason to not buy this excellent phone. or you will be doing yourself a big disservice!

p.s. I am using this ace phone to reply. I think my netbook

will soon be gathering dust! :)
[HD2 General] adell_:
It is good to know that my HD2 is not a defect.
[HD2 General] ozphone:
amazed to see how backward this screen looks

Hi Guys.

After a bit of homework and some contemplation I went to buy HD2 yesterday. I was absolutely floored at how backward this screen appeared. The unit itself looks and feels very slick, Way way more attractive than iphone in every respect except that 4.3" throwback to 1985. Wallet went back in the pocket - now waiting till ?? for someone to produce something worthwhile.

I am stunned that in every professional review (and I must have read at least a dozen) not one mentioned the very visible dots & etched matrix. On or off, the thing reminds you of an early 80's calculator display.

Why why why would these guys go to so much trouble in producing a beautiful device, twisting the OS to breaking point, jamming in as much technology as possible, and then wrap it up in used toilet paper.

I understand that it may not bother some people, but anyone who says they haven't noticed the dots & lines, really should not be allowed to drive a car.

I'm truly disappointed, and quite perplexed. The market is worth 10's of billions and has been completely dominated for several years by the same iphone on fundamentally the same os & h/w. WTF, I mean seriously....
[HD2 General] rlydiard:
How strange it is that you decided not to buy an HD2, yet you join XDA-Developers just today to announce to the world you are not buying it.

It seems to me that your largely unsubstantiated claims are only designed to start a flame war.

I for one do not think your post is worth answering point by point, as I guess it would only feed the fetish of an apparent troll who is intent on spreading discontent and controversy.

Hopefully, everyone else will ignore your post and be content to let you wander off to some other site to start mischief.
[HD2 General] pigglett:
^^^ I totally agree with you rlydiard
[HD2 General] sinamar:
I just had my replacement and from my experience, my first HD2 had the prominent dots and matrix. The replacement, however, it's very hard to see unless you're looking at it at an angle. Different manufacturing plants maybe?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] webbyfoot:
I guess not that many poeople use this feature, as despite a similar problem reported in the Topaz forum there are not a lot of complaints about it generally.

When I access call history from a specific contact, rather than going to general call history, Touchflo crashes if there have been any calls made by/to that contact. This is on a standard Vodafone UK supplied TP2.

Has any one found a fix for this?

John
[Touch GSM General] Fa7my:
Hi weihoe..

Battery life drainage is probably due to one of two things.. either the ROM is not suitable or the IPL/SPL compination isn't correct..

check your IPL/SPL compination either by entering the tri-color screen (holding down the camera button and reseting with the stylus) or by dsixda's all in one elf tool found in these forums ... try to make both the IPL and the SPL the same.. for ex. i use this compination:

IPL 3.07.xxxx

SPL 3.07.xxxx

plz note also that if your are using Hard-SPL 3.14 .. this causes increased battery drain..

if the compination is fine.. try flashing another ROM and see if the problem persists..

Hope that helps..
[Touch GSM General] noradcom:
i have also encounter this problem and i have done some research on it and i also cooked my own rom to see if i could locate what causes the drain, however

it didn't matter how much i stripped down the rom and what IPL/SPL/RADIO combination i did, and in the end my rom was completely without touchflo, gsm, wireless capabilities. (a blank GUI with a start button, nothing more)

Still the same battery drain, so the problem seems to lie in the Windows 6.5 core.

i used this version btw, WM6.5 Build 21864 (but i know that the drain applies to other versions aswell)

Seems that Microsoft has copied to much of the WM6.5 basecode from Windows Embedded CE 6.0 which also had this problem on ARM platforms before R1 release.
[Touch GSM General] crapula512:
yes, im having the same problem with the SX 6.5 rom. battery now last less than half what it used to.

i dont know about other 6.5 roms.
[Touch GSM General] hirencj:
Hi

Same problem too..then i flashed my phone with Miky 6822 WM6.5 build 23088 and my battery works perfect n this rom is with Manila 2d...nice rom try it out!!!:)
[Touch GSM General] chota_shivaji:
- I believe all the builds available here are beta. So they are bound to have some issues.

- If you feel that core WM 6.5 is eating up battery then, you can try building a ROM with build 21237 and check once.

- I think build 21237 is the one on which MS released an official WM 6.5 SDK.

- The main issue I see with 21237 is : After clicking cross on top right on any screen it always returns to home screen (which I find a bit more offensive).
[Touch GSM General] saurabh88:
so how much new original battery cost?and what if duplicate battery do to battery life?is it wirth to have it or not?
[Touch GSM General] weihoe:
bro

thanks for the info

but mine is ipl/spl 2.26.XXXX

how do i change the spl ver.?

wat is the recommended spl? and rom combination?
[Touch GSM General] Fa7my:
you can upgrade both by going here or you can upgrade you HardSPL go here

as for the best compination.. i'm using:

IPL 3.07.0002

SPL 3.07.cmon

but you may want to try other ones.. hope that helped
[Touch GSM General] Paul_Days:
Question

I'm using a 3.10 combo....is this one known to drain?
[Touch GSM General] dsixda:
Not builds 218xx. Those are non-beta builds made for HTC.

The rest are beta (e.g. the WM 6.5.1 builds with the buttons moved to the bottom)

You probably mean 21234, which was the first official WM6.5 release, but that one has battery drain as well.
[Touch GSM General] claus1953:
Not 3.10, 3.14 is known for bigger drain.
[Touch GSM General] bobnaldo:
I think what you are doing to increase the battery consumption is Manila2D V2.0. If they notice, everyone here who are complaining use the version with this ROM. Even I huehuehuehuehue. Before the battery life of my device was two days now takes only one day... :p
[Touch GSM General] dsixda:
No, battery drains even without M2D and the Phone Canvas.
[Touch GSM General] Paul_Days:
:-)

Guys, the ELFin has NEVER had a long life for me, tops 2 days even with shipped ROM. I compensate with car charger and 2 desk chargers (cheap = ebay). One home, one office. Saving for a Hero. :D

Cheers,

Paul
[Touch GSM General] adsr:
same problem. use:

spl/ipl 3.10 + latest rom of onyx based on 6.5wm - 2-3 days

before installing - ~1 week
[Touch GSM General] claus1953:
One week? Only if your phone is switched off...lol.
[Touch GSM General] bobnaldo:
So what's the best build to use (which has the lowest battery consumption?). Will the battery on my device back to last for two days ... (my battery is lasting less than 24 hours).
[Touch GSM General] bobnaldo:
Hey Claus1953, pretty cool that your ROM. Which ROM is this man? :cool:
[Touch GSM General] weihoe:
bro i'm using

IPL 3.07.0002

SPL 3.07.cmon

but the battery still seems to drain

im using sx6.1 WM 6.5 rom

wat rom do u recommend that save battery?

i can't find the previous roms that i used before flashing this 6.5 rom
[Touch GSM General] DuffBeer:
@bobnaldo : it's a theme, that one i think http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=566731&highlight=hero

Is radio change battery life ? I heard that 03.39.90 cause battery drain, is it true ?
[Touch GSM General] bobnaldo:
Thanks for the tip Duff, about the radio, in my case the consumption has increased considerably. Downgraded and everything returned to normal. ;)
[Touch GSM General] chota_shivaji:
- Many Thanks for the clarification.

- And yes I meant 21234 for which WM 6.5 official SDK was released. Sorry for the typo. :)
[Touch GSM General] dsixda:
I have IPL 2.27 and HardSPL 3.07 and I still have battery drain on 6.5/6.5.1 ROMs ;-) Even with phone turned off!
[Touch GSM General] Fa7my:
I agree that WM 6.5.x are battery suckers.. but it may help if u upgraded your IPL to match your SPL .. :D
[Touch GSM General] dsixda:
No, IPL will not help.

The problem with WM6.5 on the Elf is that it does not have a WM6.5 Kernel for it. Other devices like the Kaiser, Touch Pro, HD, Diamond etc. have a WM6.5 OEMXipKernel provided by Da_G. The Microsoft testers used these devices when building WM6.5, so they had this kernel already compiled for those old devices. This allows for better memory allocation in WM6.5, but I'm guessing it also affects battery life. I am assuming they never used the Elf for WM6.5 testing.

Also, when I cooked WM6.5 on my old Diamond, old Touch Pro, and now my new HD - I never had battery issues. They all use the 6.5 Kernel but I am not sure what happens if I used the 6.1 Kernel instead.
[Touch GSM General] claus1953:
I am currently using Micky's last ROM, which has Manila and Titanium cooked in, well balanced, low memory consumption and quite fast. The picture you see is of Titanium with Titanium Hero theme by Chriscsh.
[Touch GSM General] bobnaldo:
Thanks claus1953, I'll do some tests ... This game of flash ROM is addictive huehuehueheuheuehu
[Touch GSM General] Paul_Days:
as stated before

I posted this in my M2D thread, to Bobnaldo as well:

This morning i decided to try something. I took my Onyx 6 + M2D 2.0 Elfin, got in my car 9:30 (100% power), then checked at 11:40 (97%), so i do not see a battery drain, if anything, looks pretty darn good to me. As I state everywhere, the ELFin is not a battery friendly device, but right now as I type this, it's still 96% (1:17pm)

Cheers,

Paul

This was in response to Bobnaldo's post in which M2D was causing battery drain.
[Touch GSM General] Paul_Days:
...

Without power management....
[Touch GSM General] dsixda:
Thanks, I just realized I don't have power management enabled in my ROMs. I have it running on my other devices though... probably something to consider for next release.
[Touch GSM General] Skkip:
I just tried to enable powermanagement in registry:

Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms

Default value type and value are

“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1

Change to

“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0 Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms

Default value type and value are

“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1

Change to

“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0 Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms

Default value type and value are

“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1

Change to

“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0 Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\SIM_Class]

"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\MMC_Class]

"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\NAND_Class]

"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\SDMemory_Class]

"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:00000000

And it actually helped my elf. 12 hours standby and a battery loss of 2 % ( normally around 15%)

Perhaps others can test and confirm this?

Skip
[Touch GSM General] adsr:
nope ;[

i tested it by putting out sim + microsd ;[
[Touch GSM General] bobnaldo:
Wow, cool, I'll do the test to see if it works on my device. After I give a feedback ... ;)
[Touch GSM General] billa vimal:
I have a question here. How to bring the IPL and SPL versions in the same combination..? Please excuse if this is a dumb question! But please help..

My device info:

Touch version : Elfin

Device ID : ELF010050

CID : DOPOD001

IPL : 3.07.0002

SPL : 3.10.cmonex

ROM Version : 3.14.706.02

ExtROM Version : Cooked by dsixda

Operator Version: Onyx 5.5.2

AKU Version : 5.0.71

Page Pool : 12 MB

RAM Size : 128 MB

ROM Size : 256 MB

Model No. : ELF0100

Part Number : 99HEH136-00

MCC+MNC : Not found

--- Thanks in advance!
[Touch GSM General] Fa7my:
man you don't need to change your IPL/SPL combination.. it already good :D:D
[Touch GSM General] billa vimal:
Its due to the battery drain dude..:(
[Touch GSM General] a.fontenele:
You just gotta flash the IPL with the version you need. Check my signature...
[Touch GSM General] weihoe:
guys....

i flashed back to WM6.1 and everything seems fine

battery life back to normal which is 2-3 days on normal usage

i think the problem is with WM 6.5

any fix for this pls update

6.5 is fasr better than 6.1
[Touch GSM General] indresh88:
which w6.1 u using?:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
[Touch GSM General] dsixda:
No, there is no fix, that's why this thread was created.

Elf's don't have a native WM6.5 kernel (bootup drivers) released for the 6.5 ROMs, which help with memory allocation and perhaps battery life. We are using WM6.1 drivers instead, so that could be the reason..
[Touch GSM General] weihoe:
im using topix 6.1
[Touch GSM General] weihoe:
i found out a new problem with elfin

after 1-2 days after reset the sound (ringtone/music) plays much faster

it sounded more like chipmunk

can anyone figure out wat is the problem?
[Touch GSM General] Fa7my:
it happens a lot with me... just reset the phone and it will return to its normal speed..
[Touch GSM General] weihoe:
yea but resetting your phone so often would be kinda troublesome

any fix for this prob?

really appreciate if there is.
[Touch GSM General] bobnaldo:
Well folks, after experiencing the WM6.5 and WM6.5.1, and these ROM's quickly drain the battery, I decided to downgrade and go back to the good old Onyx 4.8. With Onyx 5.5.2 and Onyx 6 R2, the battery discharged in 24 hours. Now with Onyx 4.8 to battery is lasting an average of 60 hours (~ 2.5 days). Customize the ROM to my liking and I am very pleased. I love the version of Manila 2D v2.0, shame we do not have this version to the WM6.1.
[Touch GSM General] STRAFALCIONE:
Battery life

I have not HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms in my Elf.

Also are missing many of "SD card registry" you identifIed".

Anyway I have not still big improvements (see ROM I have and IPL and SPL).

Do you have any other registry improvements suggestions for ELF? Battery life or any other!

Thanks in advance.
[Touch GSM General] saurabh88:
can someone share the performance of original batteries?how much they last with how much of usage?
[G1 Apps and Games] ViXXoR:
Hey all!

I have just recently released an application into the wild. The application is called Source Server Manager, and it allows you to send RCON commands (and receive the response back).

I released it with no localization, so anyone should be able to find it.

Since Cyrket doesn't seem to work for me, and androlib is showing the old info (I updated yesterday), I'll just say to look in the market ;).

I would appreciate any feedback that you guys may have!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pitmanr2003:
is there a way to do this?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flipzmode:
Do you mean can you replace the recovery image without a PC, or are you just asking if you can get in to it?

With the phone off: Hold Volume Down and hit power and this will allow you to get in to recovery.

As far replacing it without a PC... not that I know of. Well I mean assuming the use of the world "PC" means any OS (windows / mac / linux).
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmhalder:
I dunno, it would seem that all the stuff done could be done through a terminal on the phone instead of ADB (running the exploit, enabling root, and flashing).
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thecodemonk:
It's possible but it's a pain. (This isn't tested but I'm not sure that I can see how it wouldn't work...the idea is still similar to get to root and once you're in root, you can do all of it)

Download the files (which should get saved to your sdcard under the downloads folder) and then install a terminal app from the marketplace...run all the commands to escape out into root and you should be able to flash from there (though honestly, it seems easier to download flashrec and just flash a recovery rom that way...that's how I did it ;) )
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] posguy99:
You know, if you take the flashrec .apk apart, it has asroot2 in it, so I assumed that flashrec could root the phone in order to make its backup of the existing recovery image.

Was anyone able to back up the existing image? I ended up using adb shell to flash the recovery image since I couldn't get flashrec to back up the image (made me think it wasn't working correctly, and I got paranoid).
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thecodemonk:
<ignore, duplicate>
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thecodemonk:
Ah, I wasn't aware of that...I only learned that I could unpack the .apk about an hour ago. >.< (I'm still terribly new to android :P)

The image backup worked fine for me, I have the file it generated saved to my computer. :) (Why I am saving it, I'm not sure...I'm paranoid like that when it comes to data :P)
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dumbwolf:
there is a lot for me to learn, many, many thanx
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ai.alexibarra:
Hey guys: My phone froze randomly while i was listening to music, so naturally i restarted holding the home+power+menu buttons. Ive restarted my phone several times using this method without any problems. this time around it loads to a screen that im not too familiar with: it has three little android guys skateboarding on the bottom and a solid yellow line in the middle that says "Serial0", up top it says:

DREA100 PVT 32B

HSPL10.95.3000

CPLD-4

RADIO-2.22.19.26I

Oct 20 2008

it loads to that screen and then from a brief second a gray screen pops up and says "No Image File!"

it wont let me load into recovery to wipe, ive tried just pulling out the battery, sim, and SD card and it still goes straight to this screen.

I am/ was running Cyanogen's latest rom and my sd card had ext3/linux swap.

i tried researching this and no luck...im pretty desperate for help..

so please and thank you for any advice/ways to fix this!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ai.alexibarra:
ive managed to get into the recovery, but after several wipes it still goes into the same screen (the screen where you hold the camera and power button). so i decided to throw in the DEAIMG-RC29 and it asked me if to install it so i did. but it still keeps going back to that screen...

anyone.please. any advice...This phone is my life! so could really really use some help..id be so grateful
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
did you get any errors when you flashed RC29? because if your still seeing skateboards after flashing RC29....something went wrong
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ai.alexibarra:
no, i got the screen with the blue green and red bars. i just tried draining the battery but still no luck, it still keeps going back to this screen :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
well if everything is stock and its still doing that.....make sure your camera key isnt stuck.

See if you can boot into recovery with

and if all else fails, just call tmo and tell them to replace the phone
[Hero, G2 Touch General] HCSC:
HTC released updated HTC Sync v2.0.8 for HTC Magic, Hero, and Tattoo.

download.

Improved Functions:

1. This update for HTC Sync provides more connectivity between your HTC Phone and PC. Still providing synchronization between your Outlook and your HTC Phone, we’ve added in media enhancements, syncing your contacts pictures along with their contact information.

2. Syncing now also syncs your HTC Phone’s time with your PC’s time and vice versa, providing the most accurate time for you, wherever, or whenever, you are.

3. Sync your phone with ease. Just plug in your HTC phone to your PC using a Mini (Or Micro) USB cable and watch as HTC Sync displays your model name and starts to sync your information for you.