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[Hero CDMA Android Development] 5tr4t4:
Just an aside

BTW, another reason I use this ROM is the tiered install, a core ROM and then a series of optional app bundles (Android apps, HTC apps, HTC windgets, etc). I love the control that gives users and the optimizations you can do without cramping anyone's style.

Now that you are reconsidering Peep, I wonder if it's just a matter of cleaning up those tiers/bundles, being stricter about the separation. As just one user, I would vote for a truly Gutted Hero core ROM with all non-essential apps pushed into a tiered bundle...possibly even having a separate tier for Rosie/Sense, depending on what other users want...that might be overkill.

I'm personally running your Gutted Hero with vanilla Android Home, no Peep, and with (re-)added Navigation and World Clock. It really flies. Two weeks ago I was considering returning the Hero and waiting for snapdragon CPU's, etc, but this ROM proves the hardware is capable, the software just needs a little TLC.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Thank you. Yeah, I know I need to clean up and organize these things a little better., Time is just not on my side these days. I will do that though. As for a truly Gutted rom with no sense, I was actually going to make the core package and the "senseless" core package and then more update.zips. Now that you say this I guess thats my cue to jump on it :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] N0J:
What's different in this ROM than in others or stock?

Sorry, I haven't loaded this ROM yet, I've been using MoDaCo's but am about to flash back so I can install the update, then decide if I want to reload MoDaCo, or go with this one or Fresh's.

So many choices and we are only 5 weeks in!!! :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Yeah it's pretty exciting how we have so much so soon. Of course these roms are only gutted roms for the most part but once we get updated drivers from HTC there will be so much more that we can do. That said, this rom differs in the sense that it is more Gutted than Fresh (not 1.0 but the 1.1 will be) and I have included new animations, the new lockscreen and a new bootscreen as well. So mine slightly differs from Fresh in those ways.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
LOL, You gotta call it "Senseless" :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 5tr4t4:
I had to laugh at the idea of a Senselessly Gutted Hero or a Hero Gutted Senseless, it sounds so demoralizing :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 5tr4t4:
Nice

In our final blow to HTC/Google we'll remove the stock ringtones/notifications and call it an "Unsung Hero"...then we'll re-package it with Foreigner's Greatest Hits and call it a "Jukebox Hero"...OK, I've really ceased being even remotely funny now. I'll stop.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
LMFAO, I needed that dry humor
[Hero CDMA Android Development] twista117:
gutted 1.0 lite

IS there a way chuckhriczko you can make a gutted version with just the

# Optimized apps including Rosie.apk (Rosie was 8MB now it's 1.2MB!)

# Optimized htc.com.framework.apk and framework-res.apk files

# MoDaCo's great and stable 1.1 rom base

# Animations from Moto Blur (I think. They are the zooming fading transitions in Mlign's Dream Hero rom)

# New Bootscreen (again from Blur I think, it's from Mlign's Dream Hero rom)

because i like the current apps and settings on my phone but love the boot screen,animation and other stuff of yours.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tstack77:
Has anyone figured out how to get the weather to display in the clock widget?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=585898

Already did it. The only thing this may not come with is the optimized rosie. If that is the case I will update it with that.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tango22203:
will it work witht he MR....???? i try the boot animation/transition/with fresh rom.no go, i assume the file is different?..im stuck at htc logo and boot loop.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Good call. I will update it with the MR files as well.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Ya know, that is probably the funniest thing I have heard all day. lol. Thank you for that.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
So wheres the 1.1 chucky?! LOL, just being impatient bc I want the update but I know your next release will be the bomb. I think your the only one optimizing the files rather than just removing the useless ones, which we can do on our own (chefs, please correct me if I am wrong).

Just saying Gutted running without sense defaulted runs blazingly fast.

*awaiting senselessly gutted 1.1*

Cheers!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
lol. Im uploading it now. I think someone who knows our wireless password is stealing my internet so it's going slow but within a half hour it should be up. And as a note, this update will include Sense but when the phone boots for the first time it asks if you want Sense or Home to be defaulted so you have a choice.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] omeganot:
I originally had a problem with the clock widget displaying the weather. Turns out for me it was just that I didn't have "Use Wireless Networks" and "Location Setting" enabled in my Location settings.

Chuck mentioned that he reinstalled HTCNew.apk and the weather started working for him again on his clock widget. It's possible you need to reinstall that package if it's not park of his latest update. I'm currently running MoDaCo, but I'm switching over to the cutting edge of Chuck's gutted ROM once the MR is included, then figuring out how to tweak it further. :D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Update is out now guys! Check it out!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rockcrawler:
Just tried to install 1.5 and I am getting the following error during boot as Sense tries to start:

Sorry!
The application HTC sence (process com.htc.launcher) has stopped unexpectedly.

Any ideas as to the cause.

I am running the stock ruu + MR update + rooted. nothing else.

Thanks in advance.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Did you wipe or just install over it? If you didnt wipe, try that. I wiped and flashed and it worked fine for me.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] rockcrawler:
That did the trick, Thanks!! I will play with it tonight and post back anything that comes up. I really appreciate all the hard work.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] lonequid:
Any chance of getting busybox as an addon?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dalto12593:
Can't seem to get the update packs to work for gutted 1.5.

Can't find script, gutted - extras works fine.

all others including sprint apps, htc apps, etc wont flash.

edit: pushed apps to the phone, but HTC widgets seem to be giving me loads of problems, including weather and clock mostly.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] swaze:
I read through the entire post and didn't really see any clear instructions on how to move certain apps back onto the phone. Can someone help?

Do I just place those zip files that contain the apps directly on the SD and adb push? Or is it a more detailed process?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Hmm... ill look into the script issue. Which widgets are you pushing and what problems are you getting?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Downloading now. I am running your 1.0 Gutted ROM. Should I just wipe data/system from the recovery ROM, then apply the update, or do we need to go back to the RUU?

Thanks, looking forward to it!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ABNinja:
Question

If i flash this and then want to go back to modaco will the MR still be in tack??? Better yet does the clear as a bell theme work with the gutted rom????? Sorry totally n00b to this
[Hero CDMA Android Development] swaze:
You should be ok just doing a wipe/reset and then flashing this new ROM. I was coming from MoDaCo and thats all I did and worked perfectly. Took all of about 5 mins. Now im updated and still root. Great job with this one!!!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ABNinja:
Did you go back to MoDaCo afterwards??? If so was the MR still in tact
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tstack77:
I am also getting the "Can't find update script" errors when trying to apply any/all of the signed app packages.

Here is the total message:

Verifying update package...

Installing update...

E:Can't find update script

Installation aborted.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] swaze:
Nope, I flashed the gutted ROM since it has the MR update in it, and then I added a few of the stock apps that I use. The good thing about this gutted ROM is its basically "gutted", and allows you to put back only the apps you need and go from there.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
+1, Base installed without a hitch, but I'd like to get voice search and sprint nav on, so I tried applying a few of the update packs. I got this same message on both.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] swaze:
Not sure you can do it that way. I'm a noob so I could be wrong but to add back my apps I unzipped all the app files to my androidsdk/tools dir then used adb push to add back the ones I wanted

OT how do I set handcent to default I don't see that option now
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tstack77:
Has anyone been able to install su file manager? For some reason it's blocked from the market.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] liquidtheguy:
Quick question, is there anything special I need to do to install the 1.5 signed app zips? Can I just adb push a single .apk from the sprint_apps zip for example? Do I do anything with the META-INF folder?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] omeganot:
You should be able to install a single app from the zips.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] omeganot:
Chuck, could you give us a run down of what's in the System Files 1.5 zip? Namely, do you know what they all do? I know you said HTCNew.apk was required to make the clock widget display the weather, but I'm curious what the other ones do, like EPST or IQRD.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Ah, gotcha. The add on packs are not flashable, but contain the apks and odex files that you would push to the phone. Thanks.

For handcent default, try opening "messages" and it should give you a screen asking whether to use messages or handcent with an option to set whichever app you want as default.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Ah, gotcha. The add on packs are not flashable, but contain the apks and odex files that you would push to the phone. Thanks.

For handcent default, try opening "messages" and it should give you a screen asking whether to use messages or handcent with an option to set whichever app you want as default.

My OT question: Does anyone use Listen for podcasts? I keep getting an error (not FC, but "error playing file" ) with this app that I've used without issues on the Gutted 1.0 ROM. Other audio apps like pandora and Last.FM work fine.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] liquidtheguy:
Great thanks, will do.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] swaze:
See thats what I thought too. But after wiping and flashing, handcent was still there I guess cause it was on my SD. So when I sent my first message no default option came up. I even go to the stock msg and look for the default option and its not there either. I guess I can try uninstalling handcent and reinstalling and see what happens. Very wierd.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Hey guys, the add on updates were supposed to be flashable. I don't know why they are not. Either I didnt sign them correctly or I made a mistake in the file. Either way, hopefully I can fix that tonight.

Edit: Wow. Im a moron. I figured out why they werent updating right. I'll see if I can zip them up correctly, re sign them and upload them for yall.

As for the apps in the system update... let's see...

EPST - No idea.

FieldTrial - I believe this is a testing app that someone can dial a service number and help fix your phone. Obviously not needed if ours are rooted and flashed.

HTCNew - Again, not sure but it seemed to fix my clock widget issue so I included it in case you want to reflash the clock widget and it doesnt work right.

IQRD - This one is fun. I honestly, don't know what it does but it ends up taking over 10MB of memory in runtime. So I removed this guy right quick.

PCSCII - This guy is the HTC Sync app. Use it to sync with your pc using HTCs software. I removed it because not everyone uses this and it's easy just to flash it back quickly.

SDSA - Again, not sure.

Updater - Presumably a system update app. Could also be used to update the data that apps and widgets recieve but that claim is somewhat unfounded.

The biggest issue I see so far (havent backtracked the thread completely yet) is the clock widget. My advice is to push, individually, the following files in this order. It was working fine until I started playing with these:

HTCNew.apk

EPST.apk

SDSA.apk

Updater.apk

FieldTrial.apk

I said above I don't know what many of these do which is true. However, I have had them off my phone for a few days before actually uploading this rom and I dont see any issue. I still get txts, emails, phone calls. Nothing out of the ordinary so I thought it would be safe to remove.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Ok guys. Check the first post. The updates are now corrected. They should flash without a problem.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] liquidtheguy:
So by flashing, it will install every program? Or can we select only what we want put back.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tstack77:
Is busybox installed on this rom?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
It will install every app in that pack. So if you choose the Sprint pack it will install all sprint apps.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Ya know, now that you mention it I don't know if BusyBox is. For the life of me I cannot remember. It should be since it is based off of MoDaCo's. If it's not I will create and upload 1.6 with BusyBox.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ruskiyab:
Even after installing everything bac into the gutted rom, I was still having issues getting things to work, Mail would force close after ading a new account, HTC input calibration would force close as well. Any chance you can make a stock-like rom with all the sprint apps removed in conjunction with your gutted rom?

What else have you optimized besides rosie?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Update on the Listen app problem: I was able to play a downloaded podcast, so the issue is limited to streaming. I though maybe the streaming media player was not installed, but there it is in the apps list. Hmm, does anyone know what service Listen uses to stream?

I guess I'll set auto download.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] tstack77:
Having the same problem with the HTC Mail app. This was present in version 1 as well.

I would also be extremely happy with a semi-gutted rom where it's up to us to delete the fluff, the optimizations are where it's at.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] redram38:
will the zips still work if I go in and remove apps or widgets I do not want, for example. If I go into the zip and remove all the footprint files will the zip still run in recovery? I like quite a few of the programs and can easily remove what I don't want but seem to have trouble with adding them.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] gqukyo:
After installing just the rom itself, I'm getting a force close that cycles over and over. com.htc.launcher. What do I need to do to get rid of that? I was thinking about pushing the addon files over but I don't know how to do so...

*edit*

Nvm, saw that the files have been updated to update via recovery.

*edit 2*

Doh! I tried upading through the Apply sdcard:choose zip function and get a "can't find update script" error... :(
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Wow. Apparently, I hadnt tested my rom enough. I will see what I can do to get this thing running better for you guys. Personally I have had 0 problems and I have been running it since before I uploaded it last night. I'll keep you guys updated on what happens.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
No. They will not. You need to sign the zip file after you change it. I will see if I can find a link that gives you more information on that.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] omeganot:
That would be awesome. I'd love to customize the add-on zips and sign them myself to make applying them easier. If you have any info on that it would be most helpful.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] BrianDigital:
I cant get any of the app packs to install as update
[Hero CDMA Android Development] 5tr4t4:
Directory tree

The directory tree looks odd in these .zips, like something went wrong at the ZIP up stage....you have two nested levels of "META-INF" (I assume these are the signature files?), for example:

htc_widgets1.5-signed/META-INF

and

htc_widgets1.5-signed/htc_widgets1.5-signed/META-INF

I would expect something simpler like:

htc_widgets1.5-signed/META-IF

htc_widgets1.5-signed/system/app ...etc

I may be wrong, very new to Android.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] djsplitimage:
Glad to know I'm not the only one, I was searching to see if it was something that I wasn't doing right....but the recovery menu is pretty straightforward (even for an android noob such as myself)....I've never dabbled this much in linux before so I'm still at the "need my hand held" stage lol
[Hero CDMA Android Development] katmandu421:
Just tried the updated system pak, no go. I was hoping this may solve the Listen streaming problem. I may extract and install some of the apks as this worked with other packs getting sprint nav and voice search working.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dalto12593:
Still having major problems with htc clocks and weather widgets.

They aren't included in any of the addon packs, and can't get them to work from other MR builds like fresh.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jlachesk:
I'm seeing the exact same thing. I was able to get Gutted up and running and started adding back in Apps I use. I didn't run into any problems until I notice that the Clock widget wasn't there. I tried adding the .apk and .odex from Fresh, but that just got me stuck at the HTC boot screen. Hopefully we can get a fix or workaround. The clock widget is one of the the few HTC Widgets I actually use.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] quietcblongs:
I added back these files from fresh's rom back into my Gutted Hero:

HtcClockWidget.odex

HtcClockWidget.apk

com.htc.WeatherWidget.odex

com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk

and I was able to add the HTC clock widget from the "add" menu. The clock shows up fine, but the weather part of the HTC clock has not displayed since I added it to a home screen about 30 minutes ago. Not sure if I'm missing anything else.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] quietcblongs:
ok, I compared Fresh rom to Gutted and I found that adding these files back made the weather show up correctly:

com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk

com.htc.WeatherWidget.odex

CustomizationSettingsProvider.apk

CustomizationSettingsProvider.odex

CustomizationSetup.apk

CustomizationSetup.odex

HtcClockWidget.apk

HtcClockWidget.odex

HTCNew.apk

HTCNew.odex
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jlachesk:
Did you just pull these files out of the Fresh ROM? I'll give this a try today.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jlachesk:
com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk

com.htc.WeatherWidget.odex

CustomizationSettingsProvider.apk

CustomizationSettingsProvider.odex

CustomizationSetup.apk

CustomizationSetup.odex

HtcClockWidget.apk

HtcClockWidget.odex

HTCNew.apk

HTCNew.odex

Weather.apk

Weather.odex

WeatherProvider.apk

WeatherProvider.odex

WorldClock.apk

WorldClock.odex

DCSWeather.apk

DCSWeather.odex

I added in all of these and the Clock Widget (the one with the Weather built in) seems to be working in its entirety.

I'm not sure about DCSWeather (like what it does) or whether or not HTCNew is actually needed.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Aridon:
I took what I wanted from fresh widget wise in addition to the above and it works great. Didn't install the widgets from boot I had to push them but not a big deal. Still the fastest Rom and a great base to build what you want from scratch.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] azntiger:
Like everyone else, I'm unable to install the packs.

As another note, the calibration tool for the keyboard kept force closing. The rom keep blowing up my wallpapers (even stock pictures) to the point where they're so pixelated, looked awful.

In the end, I loved how quickly it booted! You can definitely see how quickly it is compared to the other roms. Thanks chuckhriczko!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chuckhriczko:
Hey there again everyone. Been a while I know. I know there are a lot of issues but I'm gonna try to make a better version soon.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Aridon:
On the install of add ons:

Extract the roms (if you need something from fresh) and any of the update packages to your desktop. Find the files you want (look in the folders for system/app directory and you will see the .apk and .odex files) to copy to your phone and its easier if you put them in another directory or move them for easy access. You can pull the couple of widget files for weather and such from Fresh if need be. A couple posts up say what you need.

Get droid explorer from this forum and install (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=583157)

connect your phone

open droid explorer it will connect (you should see a the file system on the phone)

Open console in droid explorer (in the menu or hit the icon for it)

Mount it as write access (#mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system)

Select the /system/app directory on the left side you should see all your system files like browser, calculator etc populate the right side.

click the button that says copy to phone (a box pops up asking where the files are)

Select the items you want installed

Click open

They install (check to see if they are there, if they are not you screwed up mounting the write access repeat from that step. Make sure you are rooted still.)

Restart the phone, done.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to build custom roms for everyone. We all have different needs and such. Some of us have no use of the PDF viewer or looking at office docs, others hate Tweed and the extra widget we will never use. In the end its impossible to get a ROM that everyone will like so we have to be able to make our own changes.

The beauty of this ROM is that it is the fastest out there by far. It is bare essentials right now so you will have to add what you want back into it. The above guide takes about 20 minutes to figure out and get working. Once you get everything on the device that you want you are all set, run your nandroid backup and you are done with it.

Keep in mind that most of the programs have two files an .apk and a .odex. Some of the widgets like getting weather to show in the HTC clock have other requirements so if its not working and a restart doesn't fix it then you are probably missing something. The only thing I had trouble getting added was the weather on the clock. A post 3 or so above this one shows you exactly what files you need to copy. Anything not found in Gutted you can take from Fresh (should only be the widget files everything else should be available in the gutted zip)

I recommend getting everything you think you need installed first, then setting location services and other settings and finally setting up your google stuff. After that then start messing with your home screens, pulling back up information (My backup doesn't play well with Gsync so becareful with contact syncing and using that). I ran into issues with location settings bugging out the weather display on the clock because it wasn't approved which is why I recommend doing that first.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] izzystylez:
im having problem getting the write access, i am rooted cuz i can get to the green bootscreen for nandroid and stuff, but i try to open console from droid explorer and i cant type anything in there to execute the command....

i try to go through windows cmd.exe

adb shell

su

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

and it gives me no errors but when i attempt to write to device it writes but i cant see them in the folder once it is finished...........