yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 General] AdrianK:
Very true. Also I'm really loving what Google did with the new icons in 2.0, much nicer than the HTC ones, so no need for a theme to hide the 1.6 icons that look like they're from the 90's >.<
[G1 General] Royalknight6190:
Check out these pics and post...I know these are all predictions but man they do look nice.

http://www.talkandroid.com/android-forums/android-hardware/341-t-mobile-g2-phone.html
[G1 General] roguestatuskat:
yupp,

i plan on getting the next keyboard HTC android phone for Tmobile
[G1 General] phatmanxxl:
Same here, Id like to see a G1 type phone with higher specs, basically a G1.5
[G1 General] brian_v3ntura:
leaked images of tmobiles phone "map" showed motorola sholes and the sholes tablet...

motorola sholes ofcoarse is the droid but gsm, and i am guessing the sholes table is the same as the moto droid,but full touchscreen w/ no keyboard..(no date annouced or leaked)

mytouch le (fender phone) definitely worth it compared to the behold 2... uses the 32a board = 288mb ram, 16gb sd card, and a 3.5mm jack. basically having a hero without sense ui stock...and i am sure the phone can be rooted the same way as the regular mytouch3g...maybe.(date: jan 2010)
[G1 General] roguestatuskat:
i think that HTC should ask us here at XDA what we want, because being power users, i think we will have a better understanding of what we would like to see in a phone and at a decent price
[G1 General] Paging Dr B:
thankfully my work let me exchange my storm for the droid and this phone could have been perfect but instead they decided to give it a **** keyboard. the G1's keyboard feels huge in comparison. luckily the screen is so big that using the OS-keyboard is easier and much preferred. This droid not only looks nice but it makes my G1 feel super slow. I always knew that the g1's screen wasnt as nice as the iphones but it was still a good looking screen compared to most other phones. Well just wait until you see android running on the droids screen and put the g1 beside it. It totally put the g1's screen to shame in not only size but resolution. this thing is so hi-res its sick. All i know is tmobile needs to get something equally as good as the droid by the time my contract is up next october. Oh to answer the OP's question, for the time being the droid is the "next phone". i dont think any of HTC's current phones can touch it.
[G1 General] brummiesteven:
I think that T-Mobile US will go the same way as T-Mobile UK, putting what TmUK have done and the "Tmobile US Roadmap" together you get:

Motorola Sholes : G2

Sholes Tablet: G2 Touch

In the UK

Dream : G1

Hero : G2 Touch

We will most likely get the "Sholes" released as the G2 here.
[G1 General] :
HTC is gonna make i dream 2 / G2 i bet, just for us hardcore guys. i would never try a non HTC phone, its nice that sony and moto are jumping on board and thats cute, but i doubt they will be as good as htc
[G1 General] PS4AndroidHacker:
GSM Droid HAS BEEN SPOTTED!!!

Ok folks,just to let you all in on a little info if you have not searched for it yet.There IS a GSM version of the Droid in the UK,Germany,etc. called the Motorola Milestone,it is available soon I believe. Want a GSM Droid,pick up this product, or the new Scholes coming to T-Mobile soon! The Motorola Milestone is boasting Android 2.0(Eclair).Just google search it, and ye shall find it.
[G1 General] cire253:
with ATT losing the exclusive rights to the iphone, tmo might get that next year. One of the reps at tmobile said theres talks about it.

take a peak... wouldnt this just be peachy

http://gizmodo.com/5400764/the-android-iphone?autoplay=true
[G1 General] :
We've had a GSM Droid dump in the development forums for a few days now ;-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] mike21pr:
the current one is rather lacking since the hero doesnt have many hardware buttons to map comfortably, is there a way to get more designs on the on-screen gamepad for gameboid???

thanx
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] felikz:
i would second this question
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] sibbor:
It's the same for NESoid and SNESoid. I've wrote comments on those two in the market about this issue. We need touchscreen-enabled pads.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kolobok72:
I use Dutty's6.5 leo4 ROM.(which is best ever rom for me) but after 1 month of using my location changed to chatham-kent city that I never was .Playing with location setting didn't help so then I restored from back-up file and "My location" changed back to right place (san francisco ca). Now after 3 days it's changed to chatham-kent again.

What's going on? Anyone?

Google maps and TT7.9 only and it's works fine but nor of them has time zone to GPS sync feature like iGo8.
[HD2 General] Zero Masamune:
Post here your recommended apps,

On every Windows Mobile phone I installed:

Snailslug's TouchResponse

With this installed, it gives you a viberation feedback on every touch on the screen.

David Anders' Batti

A rainbow colored battery bar on the very top of the screen.

Resco Explorer

A file explorer with way more options and other stuff.

CoreCodec CorePlayer

A media player, I use it as video player. It supports many formats.

SPB Backup

Backs up your whole phone, to restore your phone, just run the .exe and wait.

Schap's Advanced Task Manager

Advanced Configuration Tool

Also a list with working games

Color Stone - Tower Defence

Color Stone - Flight Commander

SouthEnd - Xtrakt

Resco Bubbles

Touch Dimensions - Totem Star

Hyoga Sheon - Omniano

hdWobble
[HD2 General] rikusuicide:
number 10 finally:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] faisus:
im havin HTC rhodium jus bought with win 6.1 and Touch flow 3d 2.1 pre installed now my questions are

How do i upgrade manila?? change my clock appearance to Transparent and where do i get "CFC UGI" also the registry editor app !!!

wat is rom n wat can i do wid dat??

plzz help !!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] droreni:
hello, and congratz on your new rhodium.

first of all you can just search the forums, there are a lot of updates and programs created by excellent people here for the clock.

about ROM, this is basically your operating software i.e. the windows mobile you are running.(simply and best way i - still new to this as well, can describe it)

you can flash (upgrade) your ROM to any stock (from htc) ROM's available (now WM6.5) or to any one you can find here under ROM developement forum (highly recommanded - much better then the htc ones usually).

info on how to do that you can find here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550540

about the CFC UGI you can read and download here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=470798

Good luck, and enjoy your new phone.
[Touch Cruise 2 ROM Development] flying12818:
I need a wm6.5 ROM with chinese for my Iolite

Everyone who can help me? :confused::confused:
[Touch Cruise 2 ROM Development] wg5566:
Did you miss this one:

http://www.shuaji.net/html/rom/dopod_HTC/t4242/2009/0911/1884.html

There is some shortcomings in that ROM, but all are overcomable. And you can find all solutions in this forum here. Please post here or PM me if you have unsolvable problems on that ROM.
[Touch Cruise 2 ROM Development] flying12818:
this rom is not very good ! there are too many bugs in it! i need a new rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ADVANCE:
Trying to install Microsoft TellMe on my Tilt 2 with Mobile 6.5. I turned off the default Voice Command and when the TelMe install gets to about 80% it stops with the message "try again later". Any ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] zoomie:
Which cab file are you using? I used the one for the samsung i-900 from this discussion:

http://www.samsung-omnia.org/genera...oice-command-for-windows-mobile-6-5-available

More info is available here:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=92493
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] lilchip85:
i have that cab and it shuts off on me as well. it'll get to the tutorial part and just shut off. i only got passed it once and it shut off on me as soon as i said something.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] ADVANCE:
I took your advice and used the i-900 TellMe cab. It installed and somewhat works. When I try to text someone it goes through transcribing, refining, and comes back with the msg. Can't access mobile network. Any ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] The Jell:
Me too!

Installed the same file and got the same response while refining. AT&T Tilt 2. Any solutions?
[G1 General] alec.baldwin:
POST A LINK TO THE FASTEST stable (everyday use) DONUT/HERO ROM

This Thread will list the ROM that is foremost STABLE.. . AND SUPER FAST.

The CURRENT CHAMPION is currently : Dwang

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Here is the reality. MOST ROMs suck in terms of speed. They are slow if you fill your agenda and contacts and add a few widgets. You switch from apps to home you wait, you switch apps wait again, reload etc. Pain in the ass.

So you get the concept, I like speed... AND I want this thread to be about stable super fast ROMS.

I am tired of every rom claiming fast, and blazing and etc.. with the sad reality that the very large majority quite frankly sucks.

Anyone who is using the phone as a real working professional realizes that HERO's suck... haven't found one yet that just eliminates waiting. I just can't deal with waiting 5 seconds when moving out of an app to home or.. into another one..It just doesnt work if I have a call ringing and all the appz bog it down so I can't answer... While some ROMs are trying to be fast.. they still suck if you move a little fast..or have a few things up. That's the reality. And while I appreciate the work of all the devs, I want one thread in here to be about bottom line. Speed & everyday stability everyday use. And I mean not fast right after you flashed it I mean still fast after weeks of use. Many Ron's just come to a creeping halt.. after a while... However a ROM has to be STABLE first (meaning no force closes even after a while) and once it delivers that, then it has to be FAST.

So far I found ONE ROM that is far and beyond above the rest... and it is the current speed champion Dwang (with haykuro spl)

Quite frankly there's nothing that can touch that one. It is stable, has a black theme, bluetooth (don't quite need it though), but is SUPER FAST... meaning no waiting.. it is the only rom, that I consider business-use worthy.. where you can fly through apps, get your stuff done.. it works, does it's thing no matter what you throw at it... leagues above the rest. In fact is is a Rom you can flash onto the Lady's phone and she's gonna love it... which is the ultimate crown for software.

Oh and I am in no way associated with Dwang.. I am just a simple guy who wants a fast and stable donut/hero. If I can get same speed as Dwang in a hero, I'd love to have a hero... anyway.. I'll keep this thread as the speed champion thread (stable). The test infrastructure is a Dream G1.. but others feel free to post your comments.

NOW if any of you guys think you have a rom that works equally well, or you think is faster... please post a link below and I'll give it a shot... I'll run it through its paces with many large calendars tons of contacts and lots of daily use and abuse. However I am not gonna look at test balloons. Test your rom first, make sure it's stable... and most importantly don't go out and throw claims around you can't backup.

So show me what you've got.... For now Dwang is the reigning Speed champion.
[G1 General] uberingram:
I have none of the "issues" you point out with Cyanogen's latest. I'm not going to bother with a link. You should be able to find it.

Edit: Agreed with tazz.
[G1 General] tazz9690:
dude, no one cares about what you think of ROM's in development. There's different forums for each phone for a reason. Mods, can we get this moved to general please? This doesn't belong here. Next time, think before you decide to post things that do not belong in development. all it does is just clutter it.
[G1 General] bittermormon:
I challenge you to post in the right section.
[G1 General] m3s_4ev3r:
alec.baldwin has a point, there should be statistics in A part of the Dream forums for everyday usage of the ROM's, I totally agree with him, when I am at home everything is ok with any ROM, but when I am on the road and I am trying to find a location and an IM application is opened and some guy calls me.. everything hangs, even on cyanogen, once it jammed the whole nadroid, black screen, only the notification bar visible and the phone was vibrating, I had to restart it. Anyhow, what's true it's true, this thread doesn't belong here, but it must be somewhere in plain sight. I have tested so far every ROM that has appear in the last two months, and truth be told, I also find dwangs the best, I've been using it like mad, good battery life, extremely snappy, no complaints. And yes, for everyone that keeps saying that the ROM's aren't working well because wipe and format, I ALWAYS repartition my SD when installing a new ROM.

AS ALWAYS, THANKS TO ALL THE DEV's FOR THEYR HARD WORK, remember, this isn't a competition, only statistics, so people can make a good choice without testing everything out there.
[G1 General] nephron:
When someone says they have a super speedy hero rom, it relates to other PAST HERO ROMS. You cant compare a cupcake rom or a donut rom to a Hero rom. Especially on speed. The sense UI was not meant to run on the G1 nor was it meant to be run on the MT3G. On the other hand, donut and cupcake where both meant to be run on our phones. Thats why they are usually stable, fast, and used on a daily basis while hero roms need completely different frameworks and modifications to even work on our phones. SO, my point is: Hero roms are fast compared to other hero roms being created and they are a WORK IN PROGRESS so let the work progress and stop complaining because we have like 20 devs working FOR FREE just to make people like you and me happy. So Donut will always be faster then Hero. And as of right now, Hero will always be a tad slow, have some loading screens, and lacks bluetooth.
[G1 General] alec.baldwin:
Ok first sorry guys for posting this in the wrong section (admin please move) unless I can (but don't think I can). It took me many hours to find this Rom that delivers - every rom claiming how super fast they are does not make it easy. As newby it takes a while to get the right recovery image, get the right spl, get the hang of it, until you finally get to switchrom or a process that makes testing easier.

Having some XDA stable speed award, or something that would take away all that trial and error and reading through pages and pages of posts to find what is unstable in every rom, having a simple THREAD.. that shows Newbies... look start with XYZ rom. And you have something that is fast, and stable. Then you can go and venture from there. I bet that many get turned off after flashing a hero, or a cyanogen (I first flashed the 4.0... cyanogen and boy what a dog it was, and the hero's are even worse, I was ready to throw it out the window)... all I wanted was something fast and stable, real life worthy. It took me probably about 7 roms to finally find one that RULES.

Also right now dev development has so many dimensions everyone developing in some direction. IT would be nice.. to have a central thread.. if you want speed&stable.. do XYZ. If you want features do ABC... wouldnt it be nice to have an award devs can aspire towards, to get recognition for the work you do...
[G1 General] 2girls1cup:
I just upgraded to a G1 from At&t Tilt. I'm new to the dream threads. I see that you guys are very competitive with your development. That is a good sign because that means that there are hard working devs here. I like :)
[G1 General] alec.baldwin:
Yes there are 20 devs working but there should be some structure to the madness. I think there are a lot of people that look for fast and stable and simply can't find it because they are lost in so many releases all claiming fast and stable and the greatest thing since apple pie. All I suggest is a simple thread to help new users here to get a positive experience.

Imagine someone is flashing a dog onto their phone... slows it down like you wouldnt believe it after 2 weeks of use... what do you think how likely are they to come back and give it another shot (unless they're geeks and willing to work through it). Now imagine the same thing.. someone starting with a stock donut.. flashing a dwang1.11 and go like "HOLY SH#T".. I'll bet you a positive first experience will do much more for the community the users and the developers than someone with a bad experience.. (trust me I went through that).

The more users you have the more enthusiasts the better for all of us. My vote is simply to create something that gives positive experiences. Does not have to be me.. but someone who is using the devices in the real world.. with abuse and use, large calendars... contacts, just REAL LIFE, and then puts out some recommendations/awards whatever you wanna call it. Do this and you'll see user numbers grow.
[G1 General] jf4888:
YOU CAN NEVER SAY WHAT IS STABLE/FAST

BECAUSE EVERYBODYS G1 IS DIFFERENT

AND UNLESS EVERYBODY IS RICH ENOUGH TO GET EVERYTHING THE OTHER PERSON HAS..

SWAP SIZE

CLASS 6 SDCARD

32B

SPL RADIO

ETC...

THEN THIS THREAD IS USELESS

WHICH IS WHY YOU SAY CYAN IS NOT STABLE

WHILE I THINK ITS THE FASTEST STABLE DONUT ROM OUT THERE

and another thing... the writting up here ^ is not yelling just really big letters =]
[G1 General] jad011:
i think you are completely wrong, the new sense hero 1.3r1 with the new bfs and 10mb hack have zero lag
[G1 General] mgorman:
this thread is a waste of bandwith.

reported
[G1 General] Shaquiel Harris:
this has to be the most pointless thread ive ever seen. flash roms and figure out for yourself which is good or not if you dont like it go back to ota updates.
[G1 General] EWitsJan:
Everything you jus said was pure stupid! The only thing you really got to pay for is a class 6 card and thats less than 15 bucks online! If you dont got 15 bucks get a job! Cyan right now is not stable im getting so much fc's on his rom & new people find bugs all day on it. Dwang's is the meanest leanest fastest stable donut rom out there! Have you ever tried it?
[G1 General] Takenover83:
I think part of the fun is figuring out what works best for your needs. Some people like flash and glits, running tons of widgets, others are very minimal. But he is right. Every Rom on this site "claims to be the fastest".
[G1 General] phamous:
No, cyanogen claims his will keep you legal for less. nothing about being the fastest there! xD
[G1 General] damnitpud:
Enomther's ROMs are very fast and stable...I flash most the ROMs i find but always go back to his. You are posting in the dev section so most the people here are going to say try them all...when most the users don't want to flash all the time.

I would suggest starting a thread in Dream or Dream Q&A, make a poll, do some benchmarks...Have users pay more attention to the annoyances in their ROMs and post them. All of the stuff you are asking about should be run by the community, not XDA! I agree being a noob and coming to this site can be overwhelming, but at the same time it kills off some of the people that shouldn't be modding their phones anyway.

Maybe make a few threads...one showing the fastest most stable ROM, one for the ROM with the most options, one that is the creeper...maybe build that all into one post and you maintain the first few posts...Hell Google Wave invites are floating around, I am making a wave about tips and tricks on the G1 you could try to do something similar.
[G1 General] alec.baldwin:
damnitput

Thansk for mentioning Enomther's rom looks though he's not on Donut yet.. but as soon as it happens I'll give it a shot.

phamous

Legal for less.. well quite frankly the extra dance about the google stuff is just a hazzle. I see Google's point that when you go and waive the mods stuff around on their market (through the updater) that they'd get upset. But the result now is rather absurd..to backup your own google appz and install them afterwards...(I think that's what the status is). The problem I had with Cyanogen is that everyone was hyping up the 4.0.. something (the last one with the google appz) I installed it on my, my wife and my dad's phone.. and it ended up being a really frustrating experience (they're all heavy users). Now the most current version might have things fixed but I am still scared from that experience.

TakenOver83

yeah I have created a few little benchmarks.. switching from this to that, just certain tasks.. in the future I'll just compare Roms by looking at how much time it takes. Then teh ones that are promising will get immersed into a real life test. It would be awesome to have a benchmark program....

jf4888 and Mgorman

Quite frankly just try Dwang's rom.. . that will make you shut up.

jad011

About sense hero 1.3r1 with the new bfs and 10mb hack that should have zero lag. Well I got exactly that one installed... and I personally thought it sucks. Go to browser.. hit the home button. Or other applications.. you'll get seconds of load times. The other thing that sucked is the widgets.. f.e. weather.. as great as it looks.. I have noticed that I am in an app.. go back to home screen.. go to weather widget and it is reloading... even though before I went into the app it had the data loaded. And generally moving through the rom from apps, to settings, to home, to email to messaging to home... I have found one just waits for 3-5 seconds at a time. And it might be that's just normal for HERO, but with Dwang I don't get that. Sure its a donut.. but if you are a real user, you will care a lot more about speed than you do about a weather animation, or a few more polished things... if it would be a major step in functionality.. ok maybe.. but its not. Its a little bit better.. but a lot slower. If you want a more detailed analysis let me know and i'll boot the hero up again and do some measurments to drive the point home.
[G1 General] muzek:
You want a true benchmark test, download Linpack for Android (it's available in most droid markets I believe). It isn't perfect, and it doesn't give a ton of stats, but it does do a pretty legit speed test and you can even save the results to compare against other roms/phones.

I agree with you on the "having a thread that highlights the "fastest", "most bells & whistle", etc"... even if just to tell noobs "start here"... I'm running CM 4.2.3.1 (and yes, it has issues... I've had random reboots, FC's, and plenty of lag) but I've been sticking with CM as it's just easier than flashing a new rom every few days because things start going down hill. Having a thread to go to that would give at least a general idea of how different roms work in the real world (without having to spend my entire saturday reading through thousands of posts, most of which provide no info at all) would be great. But then I'm guessing said thread would fill with useless posts, or at least way too many posts) fairly quickly.

That being said, your better bet is to have a website that is either devoted to (or at least has a section devoted to) this concept. You may have a better chance pitching the idea to the folks at Phandroid.com or AndroidAndMe.com. I'm not saying they'll be 100% behind you, I don't really know any of them, so I can't really say what their interest level would be... but at least on a site like that you can control the "reviews/awards" without getting a billion useless posts making it hard to find the useful info. Just a thought.