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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
The radio was the issue; can't believe I forgot to ask that. I personally recommend running the 1.70 or 1.71 radios; I use the 1.71.09.01; it worked wonders for me.

1.70.19.09

- Rapidshare - 4Shared

1.71.09.01

- 4shared - Sendspace - Megaupload - Zshare - Rapidshare
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxjoshuaaxx:
What would I notice different?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jonahs:
Well, many problems with Android running on this hardware can be fixed by using the radio's that are recommended by the authors of the Android builds. I'm using the 1.71.09.01 radio and I have never had any problems with it. I did use another radio version when trying out a few 1.5 and 1.6 builds and had as an effect of that lots of problems with the phone freezing, hardware not working, etc, etc.

You will see the Radio version of your phone during boot. I have yet to figure out how to get to the Radio version within Android, so I have to revert back to Windows Mobile when I need to read/confirm it. It pops up during the power on of the phone and is usually displayed in the lower right corner in red, among with two other values.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxjoshuaaxx:
So I bumped up the radio. My data doesn't seem to work anymore... With Android. Windows Mobile still goin' fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jonahs:
Does the modem app tell you anything about if it is trying to connect or not? I take it you also added an APN in the Wireless settings that matches your provider? An alternative to data connections through the provider could be wifi. Of course, it really takes away the benefit of having Android on the phone with you working to its fullest all the time, but some use wifi only and seem to be happy with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ferrarihome:
please help me to configure deafult.txt

please help me to configure deafult.txt on my omnia tite
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenity:
You necro'd a 5 month old dead thread to ask this? lol, there are more recent threads you could have posted in.

What help do you actually need with default.txt?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UrbanRider:
It's possible yeah, but lets see how does this thread continues:)

Btw I'm having wi-fie issues too, using the ION @ post 1

sometimes works, sometimes it does not
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Sometimes mine hangs at the 'obtaining address...' line. But it eventually works.

Does wifi work in, ugh, WinMo?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UrbanRider:
after a reboot mine is working good, lets see for how long.

Is MMS working?

And video recording?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Ah yes, I forgot to add those.

On all builds, there is no:

Bluetooth

MMS

Video Calling

Video Recording
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UrbanRider:
is possible to add at least MMS?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
When the devs get it fixed (I stopped developing, college started) I will update the necesary builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
I just unzipped the ION.zip on my storage folder so the contents are SD card and run Haret so I am using only the files on the ION.zip. I also deleted the data.img before running Haret.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Good job tyeo. Keep it up. two thing...

- It would surely help if you put a date next to the links to show how update they are or when they were built.

- I downloaded you hero package and like it, but it runs very slow on my kaiser. Is that normal? Any idea what I could be doing wrong or how I can improve the speed?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Hero inherently is slow. ION provides more functionality anyways,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 2girls1cup:
MMS works

MMS does work you guys. I use it ALL the time. You have to enable wifi or data first and then send the pic or whatever. This is for ion builds only
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UrbanRider:
Nice, i will try it today.

I'v tried the donut ION but the wi-fi doesn't work at all :\

btw, the donut resolution just blow my mind :D

P.S.: How do can I calibrate de digitizer on Android?, while using the soft keyboard when I press "A" sometime it gives me a "Z"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Like I said, donut is a beta, so most likely nothing of great significance is going to works. Just be lucky you can boot it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
No package, what to do?

Since I use 6-7 different builds, I had to learn how to use and update files without having a package since I tend to use the most updated files. So here is what you need to do if you want to update a file or there are no packages available for the system file you want to run.

Needed Files

You need all of these files on your SD card root:

(haret.exe) {this runs the program that boots Android}

(default.txt) {this is edited for your device and to the system file you want to run}

(zImage){Basefile; this does not have a file extension, it is just zImage}

(initrd.gz) {Basefile; another one}

(rootfs.img) {Basefile; another one}

(system.img/system.sqsh) The Android OS files {the file can be named either system.img or system.sqsh; see below for notes}

(**.user) {User files, they are like hero.user; rogers.user, ion.user and so on; these tell harnet how to use the system file; see below for notes}

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Created File

This file is created automatically when you run Harnet with a new system file

data.img {this is created when you 1st run harnet, if you are going to use a new system file, rename this file or it will not work!}

User Files

Depending on the system file and/or the base files being used you can have user files in 2 locations. The user files for most builds need to be on the SD card root; and for some they need to be in a folder called CONF. I recommend having them in both places. I was unable to get my Rogers build to work until I put them in that folder. However when I moved (not copied) them into that folder, none of my other builds worked. So I copied them in both locations and now they all work.

Also, when I had them in the wrong location, the build would start, but then the starting animation/logo would loop; just keep playing, and never go into the phone.

Updates?

Just make sure all of these files are on the root of your SD card, and you are good to go. Usually the system, roofts and zImage files get updated on a regular basis, so 1st backup the one that works, try the new one and if it works, leave it. If not, restore the old one and wait for the next one to come out.

Update/Replace System file

If you want to use a new/different system file and don't want to delete the old one, rename the old system file and the data file. I use names like system-robger.img and data-rogers.img; This allows you to have multiple system and data files on one SD card.

Where are the files on the net? They are not on www.AndroidOnHtc.com

There are 2 great sources for files (all of them) and these sites are updated on a regular basis.

Vogue-Android site and Vogue-Hero and yes, these files work great on the kaiser, just make sure to use a default.txt file for a kaiser

These are small things and you may already know this, but for those that don't (and this will be asked later) here it is :) Hope this helps
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Lexou:
Thank you very much for this explanation !

I've always wanted to try android, but I kinda lost myself in files, confs, builds...

Now it's quite clear.

Again, thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] starc2k:
i like to thank u for your hard work , but , the ION release doesn´t work on my TILT. when y run HARET and hit run (with the "default.txt") haret says "failed to load file /storagecard/initrd.gz....

what i´m doing wrong (i have a clean wm 6.1 on the phone)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] starc2k:
sorry for the double post...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Make sure all the files are on the ROOT of the card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
This seems like something that should go in the first post...

Mind if I?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Make sure you have the initrd.gz file on your sd card

Also.. If you downloaded the file using your phone, it may not have saved correctly (the phone browser may change the extension). Download it to a PC, then copy it to the phone's storage card. Also in your default.txt file, it should be listed, is it?.

Yes please, I was hoping you would; and if you can improve on it, or if I need to explain something better please do :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Copypasta'd to the [Sources] section.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UrbanRider:
I have MMS on ION, just deleted the APN settings on default.txt/startup.txt and added the MMS APN inside android

MMS & Data :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Update on Hero Builds

On jamezelle's-v1.3 systemv13.sqsh system file (Hero build) the Camera works on ProPaint Camera. It does not work on any of the other builds, don't know why
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Ok ill upload a Hero build tonight with jamezelle tonight.

[EDIT]

Or right now :3
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Sorry forgot to mention the camera also works on xRom (JACManxROM1.43--Kaiser_wifi_08-29-09.img from 10/10/09 with FX camera); which is the one I keep going back to since it is fast, runs smooth and has a lot of options.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Install guide

I found a really nice guide from JAMEZELLE here: http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/!!!HOW TO for ANDROID!!!

It is for the Vogue so some things are different for the kaiser

A recommended read for any noobs; I think it is time I need to created one of my visual walkthroughs for this...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
More FAQ stuff... How to backup and install apk files

I just learned and wanted to share...

When switching from one system to another you may want to take some/all of your installed apps with you; but if you are like me, you have TOO MANY and it will take forever to install all of them again. Well....

Backup non-protected apps

Start by installing Astro file manager from the market. Then open astro and press menu, select tools, select Application Manager/Backup. Select all the apps you want and back them up. You now have the saved apk files in the \Storage Card\Backups folder.

Backup protected apps

If you need to backup a "locked" app (that is not a paid app, if you do use this for EEEVILLL it is on you and your Karma...) anyways back to reality...

1. start ADB (this is a program used on your PC to access the android stuff through Dos; Google it, you will find it and the windows USB driver to use it when in Android mode)

2. Start dos or command line on your computer; go to your ADB folder and type the following:

adb shell
su
cd data/private-app/
ls
cp app.apk /sdcard/androidapps/app.apk

adb shell is the command to access the device

su to become root; though I don't use this command

cd data/private-app/ takes you to the folder where your apps are stored

ls this is hard to read, but the apps and their names will be there, may have an "m" in front of the name, ignore the "m"

cp app.apk /sdcard/androidapps/app.apk the app.apk is the name of the app, like time.apk or com.crazyman.apk... This copies the apk file to your storage card in the androidapps folder.

Get the files ready

Make a folder on the root of your Storage Card called AndroidApps. Place the .apk files in there. This will install all the apps when you run harnet.

Cleanup

Don't forget to move/name that folder or the apps will reload every time you run harnet. It will also work to install apps later after you have created a data.img

PS @tyeo098; if you want to copy this to post 1 or link to it, go ahead :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Done .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zenulator:
very nicely done thread and how to.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kcbronc:
Great thread! Thanks for all the hard work and in depth info. It's very helpful.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
I appreciate the comments but lets keep the thread clean.

Unless you have a problem with the builds, or have something to contribute, please dont post. I dont want ~900 pages...

If you really want to show your thanks, DONATE! Either to me or to XDA. My kaiser's att plan is running up in december!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 2girls1cup:
yeah this is how android discussion and development should have been started initially. One thing I want to remind people who may have not known, if you press and hold the call key down, you can voice dial ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
For those that don't know since the Android post is not being updated and we have more working buttons new

1 = Call

1 = (long press) Voice Call

2 = (in-call) End Call

2 = Power button (sleep/wake)

2 = (Long Press) Power off menu

3 = Navigate

4 = Navigate

5 = Menu

6 = Back

7 = Home

7 = (long press) Switch Program

8 = NA

9 = Volume Up

10 = Volume Down

11 = (Jog Wheel) Use to manual focus in Camera

12 = n/a (ok button on side)

13 = Power button (sleep/wake; same as 2)

13 = (Long Press) Power off menu; same as 2

14 = n/a (Camera Button on side)

15 = Item select

Keyboard = Lay-out fully working
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UrbanRider:
Is there any way to calibrate the touchscreen? (cant use a tiny part on the left side of the screen)

now i cant send mms :( but I was able to send 2, i will no mess with the APN's again a see if I can make it work again.

Can I change the operator name? Mine is TMN, but show "Telecomunicacoes" (because my operator full name is TMN - Telecomunicacoes. I want to change it to "TMN"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tutungzone:
Issue with ION Build...

Ok... maybe I missed something, I know I have had this working in the past with other releases. Basically I cannot hear incoming calls, they can hear me, but I can't hear them.

I have always followed the process of making a call from the phone after first starting it and that tends to take care of it, but during that first call out, I can hear and talk just fine. But if I have an incoming call, the phone will answer... but all I get is silence, but they can here me.

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] niufox:
me too。I can't here anything when I have an incoming call.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Seems to be a radio issue. Update your radio with one from the official thread.

@UrbanRider- Theres an app in ION called calibrate screen >.>
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UrbanRider:
Tutungzone & niufox - I can recive calls like on windows mobile, like tyeo098 said it must be radio problem.

tyeo098 - I cant run that app, "the application Calibrate Screen (process org.isageek.dasbrennen.CalibrateScreen)has stoped unexpactedly. Please try again

I'v tried several times and does that all the time :\
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I had this issue, I flashed a newer radio and the new basefiles; and then it worked, I am bouncing back and forth between 1.70.19.09 and 1.71.09.01

Use these:

zImage

roofts.img

and download these basefiles and use only the initrd.gz file from it

Basefiles
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tutungzone:
Radio...

Tyeo098,

I am using the official radio that is specified in all the forums as working with the Android builds. See my sig... what radio are you using, and I will switch to one that you know to work with this. I have had this radio working with other builds though just fine, so it is interesting to me that this ION build has issues with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tutungzone:
Radio...

Ah... thank you. I will get right on this and try it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I also have a tilt as well and I can make calls no problem.

I know there was a small back and forth in the normal thread where people could start to make a call, then nothing; the mic stopped working. That was fixed with the newest zImage and roofts.img files; turns out the issue was the driver for the mic started and worked once, then would stop.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UrbanRider:
ION:

GPS works
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Error Failed to load file \Storage Card\

When you run Harnet, if you get an error that says "Failed to load file \Storage Card\zImage" or something like that; you have 1 of two problems.

1. The file is not named correctly; this is commend when you use your phone to download a new file, like zImage. You phone may try and give it an extension, and zImage does not have one. To fix this (mainly for the zImage error), use Total Commander; it will display the entire file name and extension; I just downloaded the new zImage-23-10-09; and when my phone downloaded and saved it, it was named "zImage." not "zImage"; using total commander I deleted the period at the end and now it works.

or

2. The file is missing, or no located where the default.txt file says it is located.

1st; Check and make sure the file is on the root of your SD card and has a normal name (when you download the file it normally has a wierd name and needs to be renamed).

2nd; Make sure your default.txt says it is located normally. When I used to jump between different base files, I kept editing the default.txt file and left the file named wierd; well I forgot and for a while was never able to get harnet to run. Once I renamed the file to a normal name and set the default.txt to the normal name, it worked.​
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UrbanRider:
Another tip:

You can rename the "default.txt" to "startup.txt" so the android OS starts loading when the haret.exe starts

(I think that if you rename to startup.txt and put a haret.exe shortcut on WindowsMobile startup, the android will load right after windows mobile started)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
That works great; auto load and if I have problems, all I have to do is remove the sd card on startup and it go back to WM. Very nice option
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tutungzone:
Radio..

Ok, to confirm... I made the changes to the radio as well as replaced the files initrd.gz, rootfs.kb7sqi, and zImage-kb7sqi as recommended and incoming and outgoing calls seem to work fine.

What I do notice though is that the phone seems slower, almost Hero slow in ION when it first comes up. Not sure if the newest release it what slowed it down. Another thing I did see on initial boot was an overlay that said tap to start... that was different, almost like a WM Touchflow type thing. I may drop back to the original release I was running with the updated radio to see if the radio was the only issue, but I will wait for a while to see if the OS seems less stable to me.

As I write this, it seems that the phone has picked up some speed, so maybe it was just a startup deal causing the slowness.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tutungzone:
Android Space...

Ok, something I have always wondered since I started playing with Andoid and have never tried... does the WM OS have anything to do with how Android would run?

The reason I ask is because each ROM has different size space requirements from the phone. I know that Android runs in it's own space off the storage card, but has to utilize upper memory as well as does any running OS. When you run Haret, the phone shuts down into a boot loader, then starts the Linux images. Surely the configuration is not caching to the SD Card as well as utilizing all resources from the card without utilizing memory on the phone correct?

So my thought is that a stripped down WM OS, probably 6.1 bare minimum would take up less room (even not running) thus giving more memory for Android to run. Does this make any sense, or am I just completely off track with how Android uses memory, and it would not matter what WM OS is loaded? I have never played around to see if it makes that big of a difference, but if you think it would help performance wide, I will give it a shot. What do you use for your base WM OS before going into Android?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
From my understanding, but I'n not a div so I may be wrong, Android uses some of the phone's ram, but the memory on the device is not touched. All of the memory of the "android" phone comes from the size of the data.img file. So a larger file will have more rom and room... The data.img file is like a secondary hardrive that the phone runs off of. If not I don;t think it matters becasue I have used a memory heavy WM6.5 and it ran great, and now I am using G's DK.10 nakid for fast boot time; and it runs just as fast.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Both of you are partially right.

There are 3 storage places on the phone [4 if you count the sd], RAM and ROM, and the NAND memory.

The NAND is where the phone Rom is stored, Your Dutty, Hyperdragon, W/e rom. This is untouched by any process and can only be changed by flashing.

The ROM is the phones 'hdd' which is 256meg i beleive. This is the 'internal storgae'.

The RAM is something all computers need to have and is analogous to you short term memory. This is where variables and strings and things of the like are stored when a program runs.

Andriod creates its own nand-like area inside of data.img, and whats left over becomes its 'internal storage' [ROM]. Android does use the phones RAM, because that is faster and is needed to run processes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Here is the newest Donut build (it is still beta but it works). So far..

What works (as tested; I will update as I continue to test)

Calls

SMS

data connections

e-mail...

CAMERA is working :D !!!! (not video yet)

[edit]wifi works

What does not work

MMS?

crashes everyonce in a while, but they all do that...

Hosted on 4shared.com

Just copy all the files to your SD card, and run harnet. The files are optimized for the kaiser, including the default.txt file; the only thing missing is the media file, but I don;t use those so I did not have one.

I did not code or make any of these files except the default.txt; if you like it, thank the one working hard to make it work...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Wifi works for me with the latest files..finds network and connects..almost as stable as ion..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Collge is rough Heh... ;;

I updated the first post [again]
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
App back up part 2

I found another option for backing up the apps on the phone...

[Data Backup for Build Switching (part 2)]

Option 2

To backup all apps that are installed on the phone (this comes in handy if one build has an app you want for another...):

1. Use Astro or OI File manager to access the files {you can download these in market}

2. Go to home

3. Find the folder called "system"

4. Then find the folder called "app" all of the installed apk files are locaed in that folder

5. You can either copy the entire folder over or just the apps you want.

Note: there are a lot of service and runtime apk files in there that you may not need, or may be needed for other apps; so just becasue the name does not make any sence, it may still be needed...