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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] starbase64:
Hi,

here is my little video to GPS Mod Driver v3.17, observed the distance.

[YOUTUBE]tCDH_TymBL8[/YOUTUBE]

with friendly greet

starbase64
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cybermaus:
Guys, I merely remarked you can interpolate position of multiple towers.Which I think may be an interesting technical challenge, but not a practical one, because as Mach2003 remarked, that will still not get you a better position than that of the actual GPS.

And even in the highly unlikely situation that you have sooo many towers that the interpolated tower grid can drop below the GPS grid... Well, to use a car locator, you would need to pre-actively mark your position when you parked the car.

If you can muster the discipline to remember to mark your position pre-emtively on the GPS, you could probably also simply jot down the floor number and parking number on your notepad application. Or make it easy on yourself and take a picture of it.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Heart1010:
Thanks for that... you should mention that distance is the grid with green background ;)

P.S.: But the speed (top grid(s) in Run.GPS) is really far away from car speed!? (much much lesser than the car shows and also when you drive >100km/h Run.GPS shows really different values :confused:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] omek07:
I wanted to ask this

Mach2003 can you fix this Delay????

and i wand to add and another question : when i am going with 100 km/h the gps shows that i am going with 90 how can we fix that ???

Thanksssssssss
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cybermaus:
Have you considered your car speedometer may be the one that is giving the incorrect answer?

I am under the assumption cars typically overestimate speed by at least 5% to be on the safe side of legal disputes. Add to that some variation due to tyre wear/pressure/alignment and variation due to GPS fix imprecision and you may get to 10% difference.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Heart1010:
yes... I also think that about 10% difference to car speed is ok.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] omek07:
hhmmmm i dont thing that

This difference I had seen it and in other cars so I do not thing that this fault is from the speedometer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] crazyC:
Its not a fault in the speedometer - they are manufactured to slightly overestimate the speed to be on the safe side.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dampam:
I think I saw RunGps in the video. If it's the case, I experienced the same and thought has something to do with the way the speed is averaged over the time period specified in RunGps. The speedo is showing the instantenous speed reading while RunGps is showing average speed over the period set (you can change the period in RunGps). Hope this helps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Deltatristar500:
Hi all, kinda confused with this topic, however need to know what I need to do to get my Touch Pro Sprint telenav to be more accurate with GPS mod drives. Would this be even possible to use for Sprint Nav or not?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blackmeto:
Again let me say that this app is great. I have flashed quite a few times since i found this software and EVERY SINGLE TIME without fail i am experiencing much better performance from my omnia i910's gps chip. Any app i go into has a instant lock to 1 satellite that points the my location marker right on top of me, not up the street at the cell phone tower like it used to.

I know for a fact that it is this app because before installing gpsmod driver i had to wait until i got a 3d gps lock to route to anything i found in the Garmin XT google search. Now i can go into Garmin and my satellite meter will be completely empty but when i click on it i see that Garmin has a 2d lock on 1 satellite.I dont even remember ever seeing a 2d? lock in Garmin before.When i click the map it says "Ready to navigate" and when i tell it to route me to the destination it doesnt say "Awaiting better Gps Signal" it says calculating route.

The only problem is ive been telling other people about it too but some of them can not get it to work on their phones like it does on mine. When they open a gps app they say their apps put them in England or somewhere. I have only seen that on my phone once. When i had just reinstalled the app fresh after a flash and had not switched my gps from 911 only. Then it places me in Xiang Jiou or something.

When i switch my gps to location on though everything is fine. I wonder why it works so well for me and not the same for others?

I also agree that this is better than gpsgate for me. It keeps my phone constantly aware of where it is BUT IT DOES NOT DRAIN THE BATTERY
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Bright.Light:
I also use GpsGate to tell internet where I am. Now I connected the GpsGate to this great program and now it tells my wife via internet where I am, even without Gps location! Great to have a fix when within buildings!

Just had to change lag to 250ms :P
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cybermaus:
Hi blackmeto

I agree it is a very nice app, but allow me to temper your enthusiasm high a little bit, so you will not crash too deeply when you discover this yourself:

The reason why you find a fix immediately and without fail is because mod driver remembers the last GPS position in combination with the cell tower, from last time the GPS found an actual fix. So the immediate fix you get appears to be spot on, but in fact is a very rough estimate.

Try this: Keep the GPS and mod driver off, walk 300 meters away, and start it again. Unless if you are in a place with a lot of cell towers, it will connect to the same cell, and as a result mod driver will immediately place you at the old location, which is now 300 meters wrong. (or yards, if you are imperial)

Its still a very nice app, and I thank Mach2003 for it, but maybe you were overselling it a bit to your friends.

As to why it was placing them in England. It may have been because there is no 'remembering' of the last GPS position yet. Maybe England because that is longitude 0 (Greenwich). But Mach2003 can probably explain that better.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cybermaus:
GPS Mod driver can increase accuracy (also on your Touch Pro) but possibly not in the manner you are hoping for. Assuming I understand the product correct, here's what it can do , and what it cannot do:

- It corrects for a 'lagging behind' of navigation by 'forecasting' your position half a second from now. This will prevent you from getting driving instructions just a tad too late. But if you make a sudden sharp turn, the forecast may need to jump back suddenly....

- It corrects a structural GPS sealevel altitude error. But I suspect your TeleNav is not interested in altitude.

- It can override the GPS derived heading with the compass actual heading (if you have a compass)

- It cannot correct the +/- 10 meters (most of the time, but it could be worse up to +/- 30 meters) GPS position error.

- It can 'average out' some of the random walk GPS position, so the above +/- 10 meters will seem to smooth out a little.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blackmeto:
well its good to know that that is what is actually doing it but it takes my phone no time to get a lock evidently because i havent seen it lose or not get a lock yet
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] RoryB:
Confused again.

I could install "Sleuth268's my Location service", but that would not help Google Maps or Bing would it? If I understand correctly, "Sleuth268's my Location service" only works with "Sleuth268's my Location service" aware programs.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mach2003:
Correct, I assumed when you said you were using "my location" in your rom you were refering to "Sleuth's My Location".

So back on track now, if your "my location" uses gpsapi or COM port access to GPS data then it will use Mod Driver, if not then not.

I find cell tower location only usfull for those few seconds before I get GPS lock. It gives me a location to get going with (Routing, closest geocaches, etc). It is also usefull when in a area where GPS signal is not reliable (better than nothing).

Actually Google insists that the returned location be presented to the user ON THIER MAP, and not just "used" in our applications.

I also think that the radio in our phones keeps track of many more cells at a time than RIL api reports to us. On the tower side it also keeps track of exact signal and time to device and back stats, so E911 works great from the tower side, but quite useless to us on the device unless someone uncovers a way to retrieve it from the radio, and even then, the method would be specific to the version of rilgsm or rilcdma in use (translate to every different version on every different device).

IMO who wants that accurate of cell location anyway, what we have is close enough to get an instant "fix", and get us started on a route (or whatever).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Nakel:
Hi! Great program, thanks for all of your work!

I have a AT&T Tilt2 with stock ROM, WinMo 6.5. Garmin Mobile XT using GPS Intermediate driver. Using GpsMod 3.17. When I first installed the app, it made a great improvement, with the exception that 90 degree turns were slower to register than before. After a day or so, I couldn't get a GPS lock anymore. It would lock on to my current position for a second, then show me in South America, then in Africa, Then in the middle of the Pacific, then back to my current position, etc. I let it try to lock on for over an hour, no go. Soft reset was no help. Uninstalling 3.17 fixed the problem immediately. Any help you could give would be great! Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kikialina:
@Mach2003

great work. Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] arok:
Hi,

good work :) but where can i disable the peep sound ?

Arok
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrAss69:
Either I'm too dumb to get it to work or else...

Got 3.17 installed on a B7300 OmniaLITE (completely wiped). The very first fix happend within a minute or two.

Softreseted the phone and started the Setupprogram again: No satellites in view, no fix, nothing at all...

What am I doing wrong?

---

Got a fix now... Took about five minutes. I mean, come on... there has to be a better result than this... -.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cybermaus:
Can you also tell us how fast or slow your fixes are after a full reset without Mod driver? Mod driver will not speed up the the time of a fix, and also should not make it slower.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrAss69:
E.g. TomTom takes about 10 minutes + to fix w/o ModDriver.

It takes about almost the same time with tme ModDriver, though it beeps to confirm it connected to it...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cybermaus:
Well, thats too bad, but Mod driver cannot improve your fix time. You need to check the Omnia boards for potential GPS issues.

One tip that helped on Samsung Galaxy was to use the supl.google.com AGPS server, instead of the default one. Nor sure if that would apply for you too.

Check here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=728611
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sulquendi:
Ok after a few more tests on my TG01 running WiMo6.5.5 & GPSModDriver 3.17, i stumbled into some problems related to the download of the new GPS Data (ephemerids)

When i download the new GPS DATA (I use French WinMo but i guess in English the menu should be: "Start Menu > Settings > Connexions > Internal GPS > Download") i systematically get a "failed" message.

The workaround is :

1°) Launch GPSModSetup

2°) Just click "Save" on any GPSModSetup config screen

3°) Exit GPSModSetup

4°) Download again the GPS Data -> Works.

I wonder what the pbr is... I can download GPS Data, until i restart the phone and then again i get a "failed" message until i start GPSModSetup again and save again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mach2003:
I've been away and out of cell service for a week.

I've seen a simular effect recently on my Omnia2 and Mobile XT when I was in very poor GPS coverage area (deep in a mountain pass). Whle on the road I could not find out anything that helped, but switching to my BT reciever solved the issue at the time.

I think my driver may be missing something (dwValidFields) when using msapi and gpsapi at the same time.

MessageBeep() is used in ModDriver, system sounds in the sounds control panel will silence it.

True, thanks for responding here!

Although ModDriver does not help or hinder real GPS fix, it does report cell tower or last known position for up to 60 seconds while you wait for fix. I only menation this so that those who read this thread don't have to tell us they get insta-fix.

Mod Driver sets a number of registry entries: Look at all the GPSID registries, and then after a soft reset before you use any GPS application (or ModSettings), see if anything there is changed.

ModDriver keeps the port open for (default) 15 seconds after it is closed: You may need to have the input port open for AGPS to work. This could be an effect from using my gpsapi.dll.

Does the failure still exist when you use another (not ModSettings) GPS application first after a soft reset? How long after using ModSettings did you wait before trying AGPS download? Does your AGPS download work right after a SR when connected to your PC via Active Sync?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sulquendi:
-> No changes in the "GPS Intermediate Driver" keys/subkeys after and before i started ModSetup

But i noticed something :

CommPort was set with COM2:

InterfaceType was set with COMM

Those two values doesn't work with my TG01. The legacy (and working) values should be :

CommPort -> GPS0:

InterfaceType -> POLL

I've re-set them manually a few days ago. it seems that they were changed back again.

-> Doesn't seem to be the pbr. See below.

Nope.

I imported the GPS Data after a Soft reset (failed.) then launched ModDriver & saved. I've waited like 5min. and did a download of the GPS Data (worked.)

Nope.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mach2003:
ModDriver does not EVER set these two values, something else is changing them.

Do you have a device (HKLM\Devices\BuiltIn or HKLM\Devices\Active) containing COM at index 2, or COM2:? And if so, what device?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thctlo:
Wrong.

GPSMOD driver CAN speed up you fix time.

i experianced it my self.

GPS fix without the mod driver gives 12 sat's. ( after a hard reset )

with the mod driver it gives 10 sat's . and the fix was about 3 HOURS !!! faster.

( this was while driving to france. )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrAss69:
I don't get it with the Omnia LITE... With some programs, it seems to get an "instant-fix" (if you want to call it that way), whereas others seem to take hours...

Mobile Maps takes about 1 minute for a fix (w/o ModDriver) and Navigon needs about 10 to 30 minutes (w/o and with the ModDriver)... -.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mach2003:
Mod Driver does not improve actual GPS fix time in any way. It does provide a fake, but nice, instant fix when you have a cell tower location stored for the current tower or a "last known" position from an earlier fix from GPS.

On my Omnia2 just after I hard reset (Flash a new ROM) I get a real fix from GPS within 60 seconds at most. When soft reset, usually in under 30 seconds, and when just waking it up, usually in under 15, all while inside the house.

I detect REAL fix by watching the sats in view screen, FAKE fix has only one sat used and shows 2D instead of 3D fix.

My Diamond gives simular fix times, although it does take a bit longer after a hard reset to get first fix.

GPS fix time is highly dependant on when and where you were the last time you had a fix. The logic in the lower GPS layers depends on knowing where you were last time (where each bird is in the sky right now) to calculate a quick fix. When you have moved a considerable distance, or a long time has passed, the unit will take considerably longer to get a fix. AGPS (XTRA) reduces this time since it stores the projected position of each bird for the next week or so, otherwise bird positions have to be read from the incomming sat data (takes 30 minutes to download full almanac data).

As far as I know, AGPS (XTRA) data is read into reserved radio RAM, so may not be lost on a hard reset, each device could do this differently.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MrAss69:
The whole GPS-thing seems to be more than just f*cked up on the Omnia LITE...

Tested noth, my Omnia LITE and HD2 with exact the same program.

While the HD2 was a little something like " Whoomp! There it is...", the Omnia LITE was "Oh, watch at all the pretty flowers, look at the beautiful sky... What a wonderful world this could be... Love you all..." It did not get a fix for half an hour...

Think, I'm sending this phone in to warranty because of some

SERIOUS

GPS-issues... -.-
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DubRas:
Hi,

i´ve been on holidays for two weeks with vers. 3.10. Everything worked fine except of that annoying Beep. Yesterday I upgraded to 3.17 and...nothing worked. Tried today for over 1 hour, but couldn´t get any Fix. Also it was not possible to download A-GPS. Uninstalled 3.17 and installed 3.10 again-A-GPS works fine again. Will see tomorrow, if the rest works also.

Device: Toshiba TG01

ROM: cooked WM 6.5.5

Soft: TomTom 7.910
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mach2003:
Can you send me a copy of the gpsapi.dll installed on your device. You might need to get it from the kitchen, as it is most often a module.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DubRas:
What???:D Sorry, I´m not a pro in WMob. Could you please explain for a "Dummie" what I could do for you??

This is the ROM i use atm:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=706171
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mach2003:
I have pm your chef, may be he can help us here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DubRas:
UPDATE: Vers. 3.10 doesn´t work after playing around with 3.17. I just get 1 Sat ( Nr.85) and that´s all. Uninstalled and used KillDriver.zip (not sure if it did anything...) and installed 2.60 (the first Vers. I ever used) and now everything works fine. Think I´ll stick with it till we know more..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Homer-S:
Hello,

how can I check which version I have installed? Is there an About button anywhere?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darkhelmetnl:
I tried GPSmoddriver 3.17

On itself it works good.

But Garmin and TomTom cant use it. Garmin is able to see GPSmod, but changes back to the original COM automatically.

Tomtom cant even see GPSmod.

My config:

JE2 ROM (dutch)

GPS hardware on 9 & 4800 baud

Internal on com7

GPSmod on Com6

XTRA off

Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mach2003:
Use Gps Intermediate Driver in Garmin's ports screen.

Use Com6 115200 baud in Tom Tom.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darkhelmetnl:
I've done a hard reset and reinstalled GPSmoddriver 3.17 with default settings. Will try with your tips. Thank you for the fast respons!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dukedork:
Hi Mach2003,

It seems I experience something like this. I use an Omnia II with v3.17 of the driver and TomTom.

When I start first the driver setup tool and then TomTom everything works fine.

When I don't start the setup tool but only TomTom the device becomes very unresponsive. I cannot even check with the task manager which program uses most CPU at that point.

I changed the following things to see if that helps:

1. With or without Samsung SDK doesn't affect the problem

2. Changed the poll rate from 100 to 1000 as suggested in some messages

3. Removed com7 from the list of ports. It now only uses the MS port. I've also set 'scan' to 'don't'.

Do you have any suggestions? The idea to only have a driver and not to start some port splitter each time before I need TomTom is really handy.

I also couldn't find the answer on the following question: The Omnia II does not suspend the GPS chip when the device is set in standby. (For example, while using TomTom with GPSProxy -> empty battery next morning if TomTom was still active). What does this driver do when the device is switched to stand by?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ersthelfer:
Have you already build a version with enable the sounds?

I know I can switch off the windows message beep, but in this case I lost all sounds from my application :(

So it was fine for me if you can make a option to enable the sound.

Thanks a lot and please excuse my bad englisch.

Andreas
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ersthelfer:
I tested the ModDriver yesterday and a get a beep sometimes all 30 seconds to 1 minutes.

Is it normal to loose and get a fix so often?

I tested it on a free area, not in the deep forest.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mach2003:
TomTom reads only one byte at a time from the GPS port, this might be the issue when ModSettings is not running. I'll look into that soon.

ModDriver handles power to theGPS chip just fine on OmniaII, I never have a battery problem, even when leaving Mobile XT running.

Sorry no option yet to disable the beep. Come on, during normal operation you get two beeps when you first start GPS, not that big an issue is it really? When navigating with XT, I love the beep to tell me I lost fix, and am using cell tower for a bit, and again the beep to tell me I am back on fixed GPS. XT won't report "lost sat reception" with mod driver since driver switches ports (or uses cell tower) automatically. I also switch from internal GPS to Bluetooth, and use the beep to tell me I have fix on the new device.

The beep happens when you connect to a new port and when fix is obtained from that port, so not it is NOT normal to get many beeps. Try ensuring that MSAPI is selected in ports, and that it's order is lower than the standard COM port. Disable scan under ports page to see if the beeps go back to normal.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mom4751:
i8000 Personal memory is not good for Gps Mod driver

Sorry for my english, but i would like to share my experience.

I know that a microSD storage card is a bad place to install a service like Gps Mod, but I thought the permanent onboard 2 Gb memory called "Personal" should be good enough.

So, I have installed the Mod driver on the Personal memory of my Omnia II and it worked perfectly... until the next reboot. When you reset or turn off/on the smartphone, the driver goes KO and Tomtom cannot see anymore the virtual port.

So, i8000 users you are advised: be sure to install GPS Mod driver only in main memory.

EDIT: please, add a checkbox option to disable the BEEP!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aaa408:
i am also getting many beeps while driving on open area with hd2. maybe gps data timeout which decides the fix lost is good for samsung, but too small for hd2?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mach2003:
I also test on my Diamond, and don't have the issue there either.

If you enable logging and expanded under system in mod settings, and then send me a copy of teh text files from device \Mach2003 I'll look and se what is happening to you. Removing the beep sound won't actually fix the issue, just make it quieter.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DavidinCT:
Sorry, I guess I'm bad but, there is a 155 pages. I have a Vzw TP2 using Tomtom 7 and get really bad lag. Will this fix this ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jazzperm:
Im using sygic 2010 on my Touch Pro 2.

I had great experiences with your moddriver, but 317 is not working for me. It cannot find any satellites.

The driver I used before was 260 and that one worked perfectly. Unfortunately I deleted this one from my computer. Can I still download it somewhere?

I got the 260 cab from another forum. Its working!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] eXPerience1983:
Hi! Mach2003, does this software uses XTRA data with Omnia 2 (GT-I8000)?

is better to use it or not?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mach2003:
Mod Driver does NOT use XTRA (or AGPS) directly, however your chipset does, and it is a big advantage to have it active.