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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cd993:
hi, is there any way (registry tweak perhaps) that could automatically save a text mesage to the drafts folder whenever you are composing a text within htc messaging and you accidently hit back meaning you lose what you've wrote?

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] joen270:
bump, this would be so beneficial to me
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] DrzNight:
Yea that would be awesome and would be even awesomerrr would be if we could make it so that if your phone didn't have signal the second when a message sent when it got connected again it would send the message. i cant explain why windows mobile doesn't support this...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bundin:
Since I switched from my Kaiser to my Rhodium, call quality has dropped dramatically in my house. I've been wondering what the difference was and realised that 2 things are different:

1. The Rhodium has stronger 3G/HSDPA signals, although I live in a bad-coverage zone and my walls are 15cm concrete. So it's never more than 2-3 bars

2. The Kaiser always displayed the "G" icon during voice calls, whereas the Rhodium shows 3G (but not H, that may or may not appear after the call ends)

Is there a way to force the Rhodium to default to GSM/GPRS for voice only? The stronger signal may help quality. I'm tired of having to walk to a window for every single call.
[General Topics] flameinthefire:
hi i rooted my phone and i didt like the hero rom so i went back to 1.5 android and i am not getting the 1.6 update can i do thi mannually?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] bigdookie:
anyway to make this happen? i like 2.5 because of twitter, but i like the program layout of 2.1. is there anyway to make it happen?

is there anyway to customize tf3d at all, other than changing the order...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YoungOP:
I Rooted my G1 everything went fine....... then I updated to a CM with out flashing using Telenet........ now my G1 is stuck at the G1 screen.... any ideas?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackElvis79:
Can you get to the Recovery by taking out the battery, then holding home+power? If so, put the update on the root of your SD, go to the Recovery, wipe, then update. Let me know what happens.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
The only ways to brick a phone is to interupt a flash, or flashing the SPL before the radio. If you can enter recovery or fastboot you can recover the device. But we need more information in order to help you with your specific problem.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YoungOP:
That worked... so im fine for now.... but im going to take another shot using this guide this time....http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DirectMatrix:
nevermind

..........
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] superrrguy:
Is there any reason to stick with this phone?

I just picked up the AT&T Tilt2 from LetsTalk.com for free and I still feel like I got ripped off.

I've used WinMo since the days of the Velo and upgraded from the Tilt to the Tilt2 and I think I'm sick of Windows Mobile trying to figure out what it wants to be. Since the Tilt they took away the dedicated camera button and the option to use led notifications. I wanted to try another ROM this weekend but I can't Hard-SPL. Won't work for nothing.

As per iPhone vs this thing.

Phone comes is no storage space.

(I need to pick up a 16gig card for $40. iPhone comes with 32gig in this price point.)

The phone starts at 85% and I can't run more than one app.

(I killed TF3d push and the proxy to get back some ram)

I can't hear the other person. The earpiece is totally muffled.

(Will probably need to replace phone.)

Caller shows as "unknown" during call.

HTC notification stops working and I get the WinMo bubble so I have to reset.

Browsers suck. Apps suck. Marketplace sucks and I think installs to device memory only.

Did I miss anything?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Zzim:
I just picked up the AT&T Tilt2 from LetsTalk.com for free and I still feel like I got ripped off.

^

Your an idiot if you think you got ripped off.

I've used WinMo since the days of the Velo and upgraded from the Tilt to the Tilt2 and I think I'm sick of Windows Mobile trying to figure out what it wants to be. Since the Tilt they took away the dedicated camera button and the option to use led notifications. I wanted to try another ROM this weekend but I can't Hard-SPL. Won't work for nothing.

As per iPhone vs this thing.

Phone comes is no storage space.

(I need to pick up a 16gig card for $40. iPhone comes with 32gig in this price point.)

^

You going to be transferring movies or songs with your 32gig iPhone? Only place your going to watch them is on the phone. Look at it another way you now cant have removable storage if you get an iPhone.

The phone starts at 85% and I can't run more than one app.

(I killed TF3d push and the proxy to get back some ram)

^

Don't know what you talking about I have more then 50% of my ram left and I am using a stock rom.

I can't hear the other person. The earpiece is totally muffled.

(Will probably need to replace phone.)

^

No problems with this either get an exchange.

Caller shows as "unknown" during call.

^

Also not a problem get an exchange.

Browsers suck. Apps suck. Marketplace sucks and I think installs to device memory only.

^

I personally like this browser over the iPhone, the pinch feature is nice but we have a zoom bar. Get at&t in the Chicago land area and you will see how much at&t's net work really sucks.

Did I miss anything?

^

Yes you missed becoming a gay apple follower when you buy your iPhone.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
So stop whining and turn it in for an iPhone. Would you like us to convince you to keep the TP2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
Well the iPhone will be better for you then, since Apple knows exactly what they want you to do with their phone, whether you like their decisions or not.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] superrrguy:
But I don't want to be a gay apple follower. I don't own anything Apple and don't want to start buying all new power cords because they likes to rape their customers.

Help me keep this phone. Why won't it work! My Toshiba e800 still works. This phone is driving me nuts!

Have you guys seen how Google Reader works on the iPhone and even Android?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] petard:
What is the point of these threads? You obviously were destined to hate the TP2 because you think the iPhone does everything perfectly. 85% RAM on bootup? Thats a lie. So are all your other problems. Just return it, get an iPhone, and go away.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Zzim:
FYI this board is anything but friendly.......so is the whole internet......actualy the whole human race is stroking it epeen to much to care about anyone elses issues.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] nemets:
I did exchange my phone in store, ... 2 times. Same thing:eek:.

Some improvement noted after changing "Treble Level" to "

Very High" in the "HTC Audio Booster" Section of Advanced Configuration Tool v3.3
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] superrrguy:
I wasn't destined to hate this phone.

This is probably the best design on the market right now. Hardware wise this things blows away the iPhone except for the storage. This thing is pretty slick but I'm having problems using the device and you guys are getting all defensive.

I made an educated decision and chose this phone but I'm having a whole bunch of problems which I guess no one else is and this phone just doesn't feel up to the competition. Even Android does more than this thing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jlczl:
All your complaints have easy solutions for anyone willing to put in even a small amount of effort into searching for and applying tweaks and/or adjustments. If you're not willing to do that then you belong in apple zombieland.

Nothing against the iPhone (I actually own a 32gb iPhone 3GS), it's just some people need to stick to something that works a specific way with little to no need of intelligence to get it working right. Sounds like your there target customer. No offense intended.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] superrrguy:
Thanks. Trying that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MikesDroid:
dude keep the tilt 2, take it from me. I have been using WinMo since the Hermes, had the tilt before this, then I used my upgrade and decided to try out the iPhone. I picked up the iPhone 32 GB 3GS, a case, and a car charger.

After using the iPhone for less than a day, it was very obvious that it needed to be jailbroken in order to have some features that I have become accustomed to. So I jailbroke it, downloaded Cydia (which is the 'underground' app store for jailbroken phones), and tried to make it work. Long story short, I had it for 10 days before I needed to come back to WinMo. Apple has iPhone users by the nuts, and because of that the phone is extremely restrictive. Basic features like changing the background, or being able to have more than 1 (can still only have 2 max) app open. Not to mention Safari does not and will most likely not ever support Flash. There aren't any browsers that do, and there's 1 app that supports a hand full of sites. Not yet break, and other popular ones.

Jailbreaking and apple is like cat and mouse. They release firmware updates regularly and it usually take several weeks (give or take) until somebody creates a jailbreaking app. For those weeks you would be forced to live without your needed apps......unless you hold off on the update. But the thing with holding off is their last few big updates came with features that I've had for YEARS. Example: PICTURE TEXTS!! MMS!! I mean come on, wtf is that?

The battery life was the deciding factor for me. My phone would have 100% charge around 2:00 AM when I would go to bed and by 8:30 AM it was down to 91'ish. Throughout the day the battery would be extremely low and require a charge. To be honest with you the battery life is despicable. That thing needed to be charged more in 1 day than I would get in my tilt all weekend, I kid you not. It's that bad. Even my die hard iPhone friends always ***** about how crappy the battery life is.

I would say hang on to the tilt 2 for a little bit longer. I'm really diggin the Touch FLO 3D interface. I never really ran it on my tilt because it was always a little laggy, but it's smooth like butter right out of the box. I want to hold off flashing ROM's for a while but I know it's only a matter of time. There's a lot of good ones out there, make sure to check them out. If you are having trouble Hard SPL'ing I'm sure if you ask on the forum, it will get answered.

The iPhone was too restrictive for me, and trust me I really tried to like it. I wanted to like it so bad. I was sick of the Tilt. It was laggy, and ever since ROMeOS (monx) left the Kaiser ROM cooking for rhodium I couldn't find a ROM that I really liked. I am looking forward to flashing one of his roms on this phone, but to be honest I'm going to hold off because it's running extremely smooth. I use IE, Opera, and SkyFire. There's a handful of other ones you can try too.

That's my 2 cents
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Deleted member 1154637:
I have both phones - iPhone 3GS & the Tilt2 (& others). Totally agree with you on the restrictions and the suffocation I feel every time I use the iPhone. But again, it is for a certain market/usage scenario. Nothing against that..

But the battery life is definitely not as bad as you saw. Before iPhone OS 3.0, battery life sucked (I stayed back on a very old 2.x version). To stretch battery, I kept all radios (Wifi, 3G, etc) on manual control and switched them on as necessary. Things are definitely better with 3.0 - all the radios are on Auto now. I dread going to 3.1 or 3.2. I'm staying put for some time now.. :)

I love WM and was waiting for the Tilt2 (My first PPC, touchscreen/keypad device). Google's lack of love for WM saddens me, but hey, there's always another way - thats what makes WM special..

Interestingly, I'm (sorta) having a battery problem with the Tilt2 on Stock ROM. Battery full charge lasts me 1.5 to 1.75 days max. I want to get atleast 2 full days on the fresh/brand new battery. I'm playing with the settings in the Advanced config & Touch Diamond2 apps this weekend to see if I can improve on the battery life. Again, not a biggie as I can always get a second battery with it's own charger. I'm still in the "optimizing" mode. And there is always the path blazed out by our esteemed cooks.. :) ^hat tip..

superrrguy, WM takes time, but hey you can get what you want.. iPhone (even with the app store or jail break, etc) is what Steve wants for you. Again, not a bad thing. You need to decide whats your thing..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] slimslim:
Same here. There's no fix for that on Tilt 2 yet. (only Touch Pro unlocked ver, which doesn't seem to work for Tilt 2). Also the "unknown caller" issue has no fix either yet. The stock browsers are pretty bad too. Using Opera Mini, Skyfire or flashing a new ROM will solve. It takes a little patience working with Tilt2 but is worth it. Still love it :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
I knew it................

Oh no!!!

I thought that Rhodium section will be saved form iphoney vs....

But no:mad:

Why everybody has to compare all

Thread number 54 about comparing iphoney
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MadSci:
Do an exchange, then...

Look in this Forum for ideas about tweeking your Tilt 2 to function as you like. Start by getting rid of all the AT&T Crapware - it does kill the memory. I've killed about 60% of it, and now I have 35% available when up and running, which sounds aweful, but this phone does more with that than any WinMo phone I've had since the MPx200! It flies!

All the other issues are either faulty hardware or easily tweeked - look in the forums and you'll find the fix to your issues.

You won't be able to change ANYTHING you like on the iPhone, so don't switch unless it's Nirvana to you, or you are willing to give Apple total control over your phone. Your choice, but either way, please, less winging and more action, many others have made the same helpful suggestions yet you persist in crying over the same issues that you could have fixed yourself by now. If you're a noob, then welcome, but please say so, so we can offer more basic advice.

Either way, good luck, everyone deserves a good phone that they like!

MadSci :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jopherr:
35%? with touch flo 3d?

im using miri's 6.5 manilla 2.1 rom and its 65% when no program is running -____-
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Lord_BlackAdder:
I think one of the problems of built-in memory is if the phone needs servicing for some reason and the phone cannot be turned on and you cannot delete the personal data of the phone, then you risk the data will go to the wrong hand.

For TP2, I would simply take out the SD card before I would send the phone to any service centre.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GermanGuy:
The Tilt2 is a powerhouse workhorse for the business oriented consumer. The iPhone is a toy. Do you want to be associated with all those teens at the local mall carrying around iPhones? I tried out the iPhone. It is definitely fun for the games but I was not able to be productive on it. When I exchanged it for the Tilt2, the AT&T clerk could not understand why I would want to trade in my iPhone for the Tilt2. The Tilt2 is NOT for the average consumer. You have to tweak it to get it to work to your liking.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] redpoint73:
He said 35% AVAILABLE. So that means he is at 65% memory usage.

About the earpiece sound quality issue, mine sounds great (out of the box). So I suspect the OP has a defective unit.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] superrrguy:
Thanks for all the great answers.

HTC has really put some great work into this thing and 2.5 looks even better. Besides that u can see all emails, texts, calls for a contact, did you guys see that you can call the sender and all the cc's of an email with two taps right from the email? That's pretty cool. Without TouchFlo, this is just Pocket PC 2003 SE with SMS threading.

Unfortunately it's all the other things that's killing me.

I wish Opera would start previous tabs instead of the home page. Then it wouldn't be so noticeable that it's getting killed. Skyfire loads up the previous page. I did the tweak for Task Manager to only kill when there is 2mb free from the original 9mb and Opera still gets killed at times when I try to view an email with nothing else running.

I'm really trying to take advantage of all that TP2 has to offer because this thing just looks so great. Opera has flash. Disabled dynamic proxy and push. I've got all the browsers even Iris. I've done all the performance tweaks. Installed Advanced Config and HD Tweak and Clean Ram. I have the volume buttons mapped to be up/down in browsers with the PTT as enter and back on long hold. I'm really getting some great battery life out of this thing. I like the 12 icon action screen.

How do u guys say the iPhone is a toy? My boss was a WinMo user back in the day. Gave up on version 5.0. Went to BB. Hated the 1st iPhone. Loved the Bold. Tried the Storm and the Pre for a few days. Back to the Bold. Now he has the 3GS and loves it. Evernote is so much better, a Mint app is available. He talks to do's to an app called ReQall that transcribes it into his GCal. Jailbreak lets him filter calls.

The "unknown" caller bug is killing me. The caller id shows who it is. When I answer the call, it shows as unknown. Then call history is correct.

I can't answer calls too many times.

The HTCNotification screen gets killed and I'm stuck with the WinMo Toaster pop-ups until reset.

I think the muffled earpiece is gone with the treble set to "very high". Calls sound pretty good. Thanks nemets!

Opera getting killed sucks. IE has horizontal scroll on mobile sites.

New Start Menu is insulting. Move to Top?

I wish I could install a custom Rom but no luck on the Tilt2. Getting an Error 246. I posted in the Hard-SPL thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GermanGuy:
Why do I think the iPhone is a toy? It is not business oriented. It tries to be but it fails miserably. What kills me on the iphone is the fact that you need Wifi to transfer anything. If I have a powerpoint file at work that I want to take with me, I just move it over to my Tilt2 using USB. For the iphone, I need Wifi. I want to delete some songs from my Tilt2 - easy, I go into file explorer and delete them. On the iPhone, I have to go to my home computer, unselect the songs i don't want and then synchronize. How about replacing the battery. Every el cheapo phone nowadays has replaceable batteries, the iPhone does not. It all depends on your needs. For teenagers, average consumers etc, the iPhone is a great fun phone. For the person trying to do productive business, you need something else.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MikesDroid:
Im not going to be biast because I've had the iPhone and WinMo phones, but the iPhone is without a doubt a toy. Yeah it's really simple to use, but it's a restrictive toy. Its not customizable or expandable at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RojasTKD:
Install this cab onto you device than you will be able to Hard-SPL you Tilt2.

I find my Tilt 2 to be a fantastic phone.

Good luck.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Hanson68:
Forcing me to use iTunes is a deal killer by itself. It's a POS bloatware. I refuse to install this on any of my PC's. Copying to a memory card in explorer is 100X faster and more convenient. Even copying via Active Sync is better than iTunes.

The TP2 has the best smartphone keyboard I've ever used. If all you want to type is, "OK", then iPhone will do, but serious email communication requires a decent hard keyboard, and the TP2 keyboard is the tops. Even the soft portrait keyboard works better than the iPhone's keyboard.

Opera Mini 4.2 is the best mobile browser on the planet. It kicks Safari's ass all over the place. Web browsing with Safari is incredibly fiddly. You can't read any article without pinching and expanding a dozen times. I find it unusable.

I can download commonly available xvid files (non-HD and non-AC3 track) and play it with coreplayer without having to convert it. Plays Divx and wmv files as well.

800 X 480 screen makes remote desktop usable. 800 X 480 screen is what attracted me to the TP2 in the first place.

I actually prefer the pressure sensitive screen to capacitive. I can use a stylus and find it more accurate with my finger tip.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Here we go again............

http://www.pikoblog.com/htc-touch-pro2-vs-iphone-3g

http://video.google.com/videosearch...sult_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCUQqwQwAw#

http://www.phonedog.com/community/forums_thread_iphone-vs-htc-touch-pro-2_73787.aspx

http://www.avforums.com/forums/mobile-phones-pdas/1018456-iphone-3gs-vs-htc-touch-pro2.html
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mikotheboss:
By the way, I'm using this phone since July and i though this is one of the wonderful phones i've ever seen or own. The concept is on what basis do you buy ur phone. U have to decide either for business or media and games. For HTC touch pro 2 i think it is a mixture between business, media and games. If u goanna give both phones grades, i think HTC will be 8.5/10 while for the apple in my opinion won't exceed 7/10.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] GinjiVitis:
Remember Kids ... don't feed the troll.

but if hes serious i only have a thing to or two to say:

A: all the the problems you've discussed are not the problems of everyone else and all have solutions on these very forums.

B: HTC phones and Iphones are very similar to the differences between PCs and MACs in general. with an HTC device if your not pleased with ANY feature there are ways to change it you just have to be smart enough to fix it. while the Iphone works right out of the box you have virtually no options period. you must eat what apple spoon feeds you and your probably not smart enough to know the difference.

As far as my Touch Pro 2... Idles at about 60% RAM usage. i can open on average 14 programs (iphone cant even do two) not only did i read this post from it...im also running a few bittorrents and playing a gameboy advance emulator. cult of apple can brainwash those who arnt clever enough to tinker.
[General Questions and Answers] Kunji:
hello, i put a program on this axim x51v pda and it shrinks up to the upper left corner. is there any ideas how to solve this. i thought it my be screen resoultion issues. i used the vgafix program from here and it only halved the screen. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thank you.

sincerely,

kunji
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtratallmikal:
i am having trouble installing themes off of cyanogens updater. i am currently using 4.2.3 rom. what is the procudure for installing themes when using this rom?

thanks for the help
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
same as the rest, reboot recovery flash update.zip or any zip.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jndd333:
Just to clear that up a bit more, you can download themes off of the themes tread that are compatible with your build number, then put it in the root of your sdcard...or you can use cmupdater if you like, but you don't have to.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtratallmikal:
do i have to do anything after i flash from zip? everytime i do this my phone sticks at the android screen. and the android screens changes back to the stock one
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nrjr45:
cyanogen 4.2.3.1

When downloaded can no longer access sd card everything seem to become a part of the phone
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nrjr45:
Ed card ext2 and ext3
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtratallmikal:
my sd card is partitioned to ext4.