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[XPERIA X1 ROM Development] Oobly:
Touch X 10.1

It has an older manila 2.1, very fast and stable. Bugs have all been fixed and it has been around a while. Also has a nice selection of apps included and "it just works".

I am a bit of a flashaholic, but when I need my device to be usable and stable I flash 10.1
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] metacortexx:
Hi,

I just installed the official 6.5 update but I think the WM 6.5 "Honeycomb" start menu is that damn slow when you got a lot of programs there. You have to scroll a lot and scrolling doesn't look very fluid.

Is there a way or a registry hack to get back the old HTC start menu that was delivered when the Diamond2 originally came out? The best would be if there where 4 icons in a row.

I've added a snapshot to show what I mean. Yes, as you can see on the snapshot I'm back to 6.1 :mad:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ArtieQ:
My startmenu is very fluid to be honest, I got my programs and stuff sorted in folders. Like games, media (coreplayer etc), network (commanager etc), personal (phone, sms, email etc), GPS, system (total commander, resco explorer, reg edit etc). I will install SPB Screenshot and show you how it looks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] ArtieQ:
Here you go.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] popkid:
Its still there under the programs tab... ? or at least it is on mine...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] harshars:
sorry if this is a noob question, but how do i add folders to the start menu like you've done? and change icons?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] colin_85:
I have done the same thing that you have done, Created folders in the start menu, to do this you just go to windows/startmenu and create folders in there.

However every time I soft reset my device, extra icons appear on the main start page screen. Is there any way to remove these?

I would love to go back to the HTC Start Menu as it was so much better, I know it is on a Tab on Touch Flow 3D but it defeats the point in having a hardware button to launch programs!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] GroteBozewolf:
I totally agree. The current Startmenu lack the support for hiding items en ordering them. Love to find a solution.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Bruce Inman:
I do not have any issues restructuring my start menu.

The only icons I keep on the main page are Phone and Reset, everything else is in a sub-folder and does not add icons to the main page.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] GroteBozewolf:
True, but the TouchFlo "Programs" was much easier.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] wassimmikati:
So am I the only one who's missing the drop-down menu when you tap the Start button - you know, the one that lists seven favourites and your four or five most recent programs?

Why should I navigate the Honeycomb every time I want to go to a program I use about 30 times a day?

Any fixes/hacks to bring this back? Or am I being really stupid and there's a simple option that I haven't found yet?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] kslw:
You can do this with Topaz Keyboard Controller: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=555821

Map the Start button to run the program "\Windows\manila.exe" with arguments "--switchtopage programs.page", and it should work perfectly - does for me.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] gaetan505:
Hello, i have HTC Topaz and as the new official HTC ROM WWE 6.5 is available i want to upgrate my htc rom wm6.1 to WWE 6.5. :)

But when i will install this new rom all my data, program will delete in my phone.

So re-installing all programs, choose settings ... is very boring to do! That is why i want to know if i will be able to use SPB Backup (2.0.2) to recover programs, settings, and data after the upgrade. :confused:

Or if can't use SPB Backup, please give me if it is possible an other solution.:confused:

Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
Restoring an old configuration on a different ROM from which it was created will hardly work correctly, it is not recommended to do that. The best you can do is use PIM backup to at least restore contacts, appointments, sms, mail..

PIM Backup is just an example, any othe commercial Backup software will do the job but ONLY if you choose to make a partial backup of your personal information, NOT the system configuration.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] prabhat:
You can also try MyPhone (http://myphone.microsoft.com/) for all your Contacts, SMS, Task, Emails and Data etc...

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
Doesn't solve the problem: you cannot restore a WM6.1 configuration on a WM6.5 ROM, data will be lost on the way. There could be apps or tweaks working in WM6.1 that are incompatible with WM6.5, is Myphone going to "repair" them??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] gaetan505:
Thanks for all, your solutions (PIM backup, my phone) allow me to backup contacts, appointments, sms, mail...

But for programs i should to re-install alls or there is any solutions?

If there is no issues, can i use the .cab of WM6.1 for WM6.5?

In particular, for IGO and Tomtom, are they working with WM6.5?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
I suggest to reinstall the programs. For compatibility issues, just try it by yourself! Install every single app and see if it works..or read the forum..I think that there shouldn't be any problem with the navigators you mentioned.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] USch:
This is basically true, but Spb Backup 2 has a quite particular feature: you can restore your system even on a different device and (!) on the same device after you upgraded your ROM. I tried it and it worked. Extremely useful!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
I ignored it, well that's great !
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] gaetan505:
:rolleyes:

An other one try it? does it work?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
I'm out:), I'm too happy with my Topaz config at the moment to make experiments. Besides, SPB backup doesn't work with my rom/device, I use Sprite.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] gaetan505:
However, if WM 6.5 does not like me, is it possible to come back with WM6.1 (HTC Official ROM FR of 21 july 2009)? and how to do (is a hardspl is needed as I downgrade)? Does the device will still guarantee?

Thank you
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
The question if offtopic here, but the answer is YES. If you downgrade to an official original 6.1 ROM for your phone you won't need HSPL. For warranty reasons, you should relock your phone by removing HSPL. Read carefully the sticky threads (that's what they made for ;))
[P3300, MDA Compact III  Accessories] TalhaQasim:
Hi Guys. I was searching for a fully black Housing for HTC P3300. Not O2 Orbit. And I did not find it. I searched a lot but could not find it. May be any one of you would be knowing where to buy one.

Okay If anyone finds it, please mention

Thanks
[P3300, MDA Compact III  Accessories] netdef:
there are some on ebay i was going to buy one
[P3300, MDA Compact III  Accessories] sokomind:
there is no black housing except orbit.

There is only tone differences between HTC, t-mobile orange vs and orginal and 3rd party but they are all brownish dark grey.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  Accessories] sokomind:
I found black real black housing for P3300.

contact me.
[General Questions and Answers] excelpass:
where to buy HTC parts in malaysia or any 1 working in SIS malaysia ?pls pm me for the pricing.thanks
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
I was bothered by the fact that Google Talk didn't show some of the messages I received. Johan de Koning submitted a patch that wasn't accepted by Google but works well. I applied this patch for personal use, but I thought that you might be interested as well.

Also, I had a look at the IM application and I modified it to allow login instead of having the "phone number cannot be read from your SIM" error. This might or might not work. It works for me, but users in the US have reported that it still fails.

UPDATE 16th Jun 2010:

Added version 1.1.2 from Cliq.

UPDATE 3rd Feb 2010:

New eclair version for IM.apk, completely untested. Might or might not work.

Patched ImProvider is no longer useful for Android versions >= 2.

Also, I removed the cupcake IM.apk because I just noticed it is broken and won't work. No-one should be still running a rooted cupcake anyway.

Notes

This is for donut. I tested it on cm 4.2.2 and 4.3.2.1, but it should work with any donut rom. As far as I know, it doesn't use sms at all. It still needs the tmo plugins to login, but no sms are sent. Other than that, it does exactly the same as when you login on wifi.

Installation

Some of these steps will fail depending on the rom (the dalvik-cache and odex part). These errors can be safely ignored.

First reboot into recovery, then, on your computer :

adb shell

mount /system
mount /sdcard
cp /system/app/IM.apk /sdcard/IM.apk
cp /system/app/ImProvider.apk /sdcard/ImProvider.apk
exit

adb push ImProvider.zip /system/app/ImProvider.apk
adb push IM.zip /system/app/IM.apk

adb shell

mount /system/sd
rm /system/sd/dalvik-cache/*
rm /system/app/ImProvider.odex
rm /system/app/IM.odex
umount /system/sd
umount /system
umount /sdcard
reboot

Of course, I'm not responsible if anything breaks. :P

More information about the sources is available in this post.
[G1 Apps and Games] NguyenHuu:
which roms are these for? cupcake? donut? hero? haha. i pushed them to my hero rom and they do not show up in my app tray or in applicantion manager.
[G1 Apps and Games] Bavilo:
Tested them on cm 4.2.2 and it works. Does this use ip traffic or sms?
[G1 Apps and Games] NguyenHuu:
ok cool, probably for donut. i tried on Hero cupcake and it fails, just keep getting ForceCloses. owell, i dont use it anyways but just thought it be fun =)
[G1 Apps and Games] DOHCtor:
You can try removing TmoImPlugin.apk and see if it still works.

edit:

I asked him in another thread earlier and this is his response

I'm going to push it into Cyan's build and remove TmoImPlugin.apk and see if it still works.
[G1 Apps and Games] DOHCtor:
Well, it doesn't work without tmoimplugin, and with that, I know it uses sms. :(
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
Sorry for the lack of details.. I updated the first post to make it clearer. It doesn't send sms afaik, becaus my plan doesn't have unlimited sms and I wasn't charged for any sms since I patched the IM app.

Also, this is for donut only, because the IM subsystem changed a bit since cupcake.
[G1 Apps and Games] DOHCtor:
can you somehow modify im.apk so that it would stay in memory?
[G1 Apps and Games] coredalae:
seems to work fine *tries out this im comparison to ebuddy, seems much faster ^^*

not sure if it uses sms, but dont think so.. ah well got unlimited anyway ^^
[G1 Apps and Games] cyanogen:
Do you have the source patches for these?
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
I'd like to have more feedback.. Does it work properly for everyone ? Any bugs or FC ?

The patch from ImProvider is here : http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=597

but I couldn't recompile it from source without breaking everything.. I had to patch the apk directly. Maybe you'll do better. ;)

The patch for the IM application is attached, the edited file is in packages/apps/IM/src/com/android/im/service

I don't know how to do that, sorry. But it seems the app already stays in memory for a while. Are you sure it doesn't stay already, if it's not killed by an application manager ?
[G1 Apps and Games] enderx1:
Sorry if I'm being a noob, but how exactly does one install this? I did

adb push /path/IM.apk /system/app

adb push /path/ImProvider.apk /system/app

and rebooted, and I still get SIM card cannot be read errors. I feel like I'm probably missing a step like installing.
[G1 Apps and Games] DOHCtor:
Yea, same here. I guess it doesn't work for users in the States. However, it does work on wifi but once I turn off wifi, it disconnects.
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
Try installing it from recovery if you didn't, and clear dalvik cache (rm /system/sd/dalvik-cache/* on cm with apps2sd, not sure about others).
[G1 Apps and Games] kamikaze2311:
i'm tryin using it on CM ROM 4.0.4 but when i try push it, i can't use the IM, is there anyone already can used that IM in CM ROM 4.0.4 ?? thanks before
[G1 Apps and Games] danguyf:
I hate when my messages are loosed, and run loose around the intarwebs.

Additionally, I don't like to be LOSING messages. =9
[G1 Apps and Games] zrubi:
Thanks! Works perfect on enomther 2.1.1
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
It doesn't work on cupcake, donut only (cm >= 4.2).

You can never have enough o's. :P
[G1 Apps and Games] ZeroGDarius:
Did anyone else lose use of the market doing this?
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
Are you sure this is related ? I don't really see how the IM application could affect the market..
[G1 Apps and Games] mattmaso:
my market is still working
[G1 Apps and Games] kamikaze2311:
please for someone can make it IM native are running in CM 4.0.4 please ...because i cant upgrade ROM CM 4.2.3.1 due to laggyness on my Devices...

i hope someone can made it.. :(
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
I'll see what I can do..

Edit: I'm having a hard time building the cupcake app. I'm not sure I can do it.. Could you send me your IM.apk ?
[G1 Apps and Games] kamikaze2311:
Here u are bro.. this is IM.apk and ImProvider.apk that on my handset. please rename it to apk. i hope u can help me :) many many thanks broder zapple...
[G1 Apps and Games] :
hey just loaded this and trying it out now. Will this fix the random disconnect thing that happened with the previous IM app?
[G1 Apps and Games] psysoul:
worked fine on ROM CM 4.2.3.1

thanks very much!!!
[G1 Apps and Games] Estyle:
does't work with cm4.231 in us.. i put those 2 apps in the rom of cm4.231,and flash..i did 3 wipes before i flash,wipe data wipe ext wipe ^&*&*cache..anyway it doesn't work..shows can't read phone number from sim card...anybody help..

i really want to use native im msn without cost messages...plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
I updated the first post with the cupcake versions. Make a backup first, because I'm not sure at all they won't break everything as I patched the APKs directly.

I didn't modify anything else than the login procedure. Try it and tell us please.

Please try with the instructions I put in the updated first post, maybe it will work then.
[G1 Apps and Games] Estyle:
i follow your Installation..and still shows can't read phone number from sim card...anybody make it works with tmobile in us? i am using cm 4.231
[G1 Apps and Games] Estyle:
sign in with wifi,and turn off wifi...it works..hopefully it doesn't cost my messages...
[G1 Apps and Games] dominic27:
I've suceeded to install this IM to my Cyan 4.2.31 on my G1. However, sometimes the application automatically closes itself. How to prevent this?
[G1 Apps and Games] lesjaw:
please, make it run on Hero Rom...this is the best IM app..very android taste.. ;-)
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
I suppose the system closes the IM application to free up some memory. There isn't much I can do about that, sorry.

Have you tried the cupcake version I uploaded ? I doubt it will work, but who knows ? You'll need to get the TmoImPlugin.apk somewhere though.
[G1 Apps and Games] kamikaze2311:
Bro, thanks for your effort. i'll try it.. if dont work, perhaps i have to upgrades my ROM though... :D thanks man...
[G1 Apps and Games] cumi2k4:
sorry for a bit of thread hijacking ;), but just want to confirm, the native IM only support one account per client (ie. 1 account for yahoo messenger, etc) right?

i have 2 yahoo id and would like to use both, is it possible :p
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
Please tell me if it works. Otherwise I'll remove it from the first post.

That's not possible unfortunately, at least not with the Tmo plugin. You can only sign in one account per protocol at a time.
[G1 Apps and Games] dominic27:
Hi, after clean up my cache to free up some memory, my IM does not automatically close. However, the conversation in YM delayed. My outgoing message was received instantly in the otherside, but the incoming message got delayed.

Anyone experience this too?
[G1 Apps and Games] chinmayfun:
Works with Wifi

Hi,

It works on Wifi bt not on my data plan...

I am from India...

Running CM 4.2.3.2 on G1
[G1 Apps and Games] :
so I only had it on my G1 for about a day before I got my Motorola CLIQ in the mail. This didn't seem to fix the disconnect issue I was referring to before, but it seems like the CLIQ has a new version of the IM app (1.1.1) and havent done much testing, but it does seem to keep a more solid connection to the IM servers
[G1 Apps and Games] raydekok:
i don't get this? is it working? and can i just update the files? in stead of push?
[G1 Apps and Games] nurre:
Any reason this little tweak isn't added to all the roms out there?

Any bugs in the issue tracker for this in cyanogen for example?
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
It works, except not for everyone. I'm using it on cm 4.2.4 and it works fine, but apparently for others it still doesn't work. I think it's related to their networks, but it's hard to tell.

I don't know if you can just update. I doubt it since the signatures are different, but you can try. Please, make sure to tell us if you do.

From what I've seen in the droid dump, the IM framework will change completely in Eclair. Besides, the fact that it works only for 1/2 of the users because it's an ugly hack doesn't help it's adoption..
[G1 Apps and Games] DJ_Steve:
it may only work for certain uses as a lot of mobile networks block IM apps, o2 in the uk do on payasyougo (due to havign to use a proxy) tmobile do on their basic W'n'W (g1 has the w'n'w + normally which isnt as retricted, orange in uk would probably be fine as they allow full internet.
[G1 Apps and Games] Käptn.Karacho:
seems to work for me

ROM: Cyanogen 4.2.2

Provider: Vodafone A1 Austria

by

KK

btw: would like to present this on a german phone forum if it is OK for you :D
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
Sure, no problem.
[G1 Apps and Games] agisman:
I try ur im.cupcake.apk but cannot install. I upload my im.apk, Bro Zappletoo could U plz help me to patch to bypass the sim check. Thanks in advanced.
[G1 Apps and Games] kamikaze2311:
bro zappletoo, i tried using ur modified IM cupcakes from me, but failed ..it still need sim check, and i take a shortcut...

i tried to wipe all my ext and also formatted my sdcard, and flashed to new Cyanogen 4.2.5 and it works flawless. i'm using ur IM for donuts....thanks for your help before
[G1 Apps and Games] lesjaw:
Bumping Up!!..

i love this native IM, it run very good in donut rom..

can we make it run on Eclair AOSP??
[G1 Apps and Games] lesjaw:
bump up this thread again..

there is a new IM.apk working in eclair..but still need wifi to connect..i hope thread starter can patch it to make it work under data...

thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=620626

File http://www.4shared.com/file/201862203/ff3b9b0/IM_online.html

thanks :D
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
Okay, I uploaded a new version for eclair in the OP. Not sure it will work though, please test it.

Also, I removed the cupcake version because it is broken. I hope no-one minds.
[G1 Apps and Games] maarten82:
Hi!

Thanks for the file, im currently working on it but for some reason i'm unable to access my app folder from recovery (G1 running OpenEclair). Ill keep you posted on my progress.
[G1 Apps and Games] maarten82:
Well, since no fancy uninstalling was nessecary i just renamed the zip, installed the apk (adb install IM.apk) and gave it a try.... but no cigar, IM gets stuck at the 'Signing in' screen thing.... Im currently running the old openeclair version so maybe ill have more luck on the newer version but ill try that tomorrow.
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
Well, I can't try myself as I'm not running an eclair rom, sorry.. :s
[G1 Apps and Games] mattmaso:
tested and works well on the motorola milestone :D
[G1 Apps and Games] DOHCtor:
does AIM work for you?
[G1 Apps and Games] lesjaw:
Yihaaaaaaa...

Thank you..than youu...1000x

tested work on Milestone and Nexus One...

just rename the im.eclair.zip into IM.apk copy to sdcard..and install it using astro..

everything is perfect!!...
[G1 Apps and Games] DOHCtor:
are you able to log into AIM?
[G1 Apps and Games] maarten82:
Well, i got it all installed and ready to go but i'm still unable to login to MSN (keeps hanging at the signing in part)... AIM is working fine tho....
[G1 Apps and Games] lesjaw:
i'm sorry i only use YM, don't have aim account..
[G1 Apps and Games] roalex:
This one actually works for me on a 1.6 CyanogenMod v4.2.14.1. Till this time IM just never manage to log, either couldnt read the phone number or it game me password error, good job ;)
[G1 Apps and Games] shooterx:
I just followed his way too, logged into AIM and YM without it giving me the SIM card error..
[G1 Apps and Games] renegadedj:
Native Google Talk APP

OKAY, nowadays in the website gmail accounts, you can have your GTALK list and also sign into your AIM buddy list.

is there any way to have that same list merge happen in the mobile version of the GoogleTalk app for android?
[G1 Apps and Games] mattmaso:
Yeah Aim works but i usw an icq acount for it
[G1 Apps and Games] bijixda:
thanks! i love this native im, run very good on milestone

Installing must use adb:

install -r IM.apk

* daemon not running. starting it now *

* daemon started successfully *

427 KB/s (705116 bytes in 1.610s)

pkg: /data/local/tmp/IM.apk

Failure [INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_INCONSISTENT_CERTIFICATES]

even it says filure but it is installed successfuly
[G1 Apps and Games] jpandino2003:
Will this app work on the Nexus One without wifi?
[G1 Apps and Games] ERamseth:
So if I understand this right, this will fix the problem where I get a google talk or IM message, see the notification on the notification bar, click the notification some time later after finishing writing an email or something similar, and when google talk opens up, the message is gone and the conversation is blank?
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
Try it and tell us, please..

Nope, this will fix the issue of messages never appearing in google talk, especially when the application is open. Your issue is related to the way the system manages memory. I think it's fixed in 2.1 though.
[G1 Apps and Games] frettfreak:
Hmm. so i am having an issue... i would LOVE to get this working. I am using Superd 1.93 ROM, on MT3G and i am on AT&T.

I pushed the files to the appropriate directory, but when i get to

Code:

mount /system/sd

rm /system/sd/dalvik-cache/*

rm /system/app/ImProvider.odex

rm /system/app/IM.odex

umount /system/sd

umount /system

umount /sdcard

reboot

RM, it tellls me no such directory, and there is nothing there. If i LS the directory, there is nothing?? I am confused and I still dont have it in my app drawer, but if i go into manage apps and hit launch from there, i get a "activity not found - com.android.im"

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
Which line fails, exactly ?
[G1 Apps and Games] jpandino2003:
App worked well on my T Mobile Nexus One. Thumbs up :)
[G1 Apps and Games] :
Does this maintain a connection, or it push style like talk?

(It seems to be working on my Nexus One with CM5.0.8T5)
[G1 Apps and Games] bijixda:
This Native IM is cool. but having problem when network disconnect. for example switching from wifi to 3G. And also when lost 3G signal and reconect.

I hope this app can reconnect itself like ebuddy.
[G1 Apps and Games] saucy1:
any of these work in froyo?
[G1 Apps and Games] harunjo:
IM 1.1.2 from cliq

any body here got IM 1.1.2 from cliq to work?

here the unpatch version:

http://www.mediafire.com/?wy1majhgtzd

i tried to install it on eclair but it still not work..
[G1 Apps and Games] Zappletoo:
I updated the first post with your version.
[G1 Apps and Games] harunjo:
Many thanks Zappletoo..

its works flawlessly on my moto milestone with Rooted Stock ROM eclair 2.1
[G1 Apps and Games] :
I'm curious, who created the original application? T-mobile?yahoo?msn?etc?
[G1 Apps and Games] NotYaAverageBro:
How did you get this to install on your Nexus One? I am running Android 2.2.
[G1 Apps and Games] ripgut:
These install instructions are very confusing.

how do i install it on the Cyanogen5.08 Eclair ROM?