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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bkeitht:
Last night I received an alert on my phone stating "This copy of Windows Mobile expires within 30 days on 12/01/2009."

This morning I reloaded Da_G's 23420-fuze-uncompressed ROM and received the same expiration message.

Is there a fix for this expiration date or is someone working on it? I have attached a screen shot to show the message. My apologies for it not being clear, iPhones don't have the ability to take good macro photos.

Oh yeah, and I did a search and found nothing on the topic.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] silentP:
From the looks of it, the shell wasn't patched during the cooking process. Odd, you say this is Da_G's ROM? Usually he is on top of things.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] amnya:
Wot daaaa :S
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
Try this: bump your calendar up a month, and see if the device pukes on you. It won't; the shell has been patched, but the notifications are still in the queue. You can delete the notifications with dotfred's task manager or sk tools.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] icythunder:
Actually I am having the same issue!! Was using Baseline ROM and got the Error. I changed date to 1/1/10 and POOF WinMo is now gone =( cant use phone at all...... !!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bedobela:
What do you mean WinMo is gone? It doesn't start anymore? That is weird indeed. You should fash a new ROM and see what happens...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] icythunder:
its gone as in a white message and everything is disabled.. cant even get rid of the expiration message..

Cant flash to new Rom cause comp wont even find it anymore when usb is connected.....ugh!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bugsykoosh:
i had my phone disappear once:) You get a message that your version expired and then you can't enter any apps and data connections are disabled. All you need to do is force a hardware hard reset of the device - it was restore your ROM and you'll start the clock over. It's not fun but iut's better than a phone that's nonfunctional.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] eckki:
i think you need an patched shell32.exe, because yours is timebombed, but actually(since last week) i dont know where to get this patched exe...

which os build do you use? maybe i have one 4 you :-)

maybe search this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544445
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] audible_paradigm:
Did you flash a Rom without first flashing Hard SPL?

If you have flashed with Hard SPL you should be able to run the boot loader by pressing Vol down button and reset at the same time, keep holding the Vol down button and the boot loader screen should load. You should them be able to connect to your pc and re flash another ROM.

Other than that if you have flashed a ROM without first flashing Hard SPL then you must have ignored all the warnings which strongly suggest that you could brick your phone. I hope this is not the case.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mrtkts:
nice news

sorry mates but i really like this messages. coz i always hated wm6.5 and its honeycomb desıgn. may be it pushs cookers to make beauty wm6.1 roms:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bkeitht:
The Timebomb is active! I bumped the calendar up and it froze up and locked me out. I can no longer use the phone. Below is the error message that I received.

"This concludes the beta test of this software release. Thank you very much for your time and effort in helping make this a great product for our customers. To obtain a newer release or further information, please visit the web site that you used to obtain your current beta release."

eckki, I'm using Da_G's WinMo 6.5 23420-fuze-uncompressed ROM. Can you PM me the instructions and link me to the shell32.exe that is patched to prevent the timebomb?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] silentP:
You can do what he said and you should also be able to flash from your SD card. Please say you have a card reader.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] silentP:
I'm 99% sure you can't replace the shell.exe file once a ROM has been flashed. It's something that has to be cooked into the ROM. Anyone have any success replacing the shell.exe after a flash?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bkeitht:
I'm re-flashing the phone now, so it will be back to normal in about 20 minutes. I guess we have ~30 days to get a fix for it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] silentP:
That sucks, hopefully you didn't lose anything. You going to stick with 23420, or trying another flavor? Have you tried your hand at cooking yet?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
I'm surprised that it snuck in; I've tested my 23081 build (which has the notifications), and the timebomb was patched properly. Maybe you should pm Da_G just so he knows. You can sometimes overwrite shell32.exe I believe, but it's not a great way to fix things. You're better off cooking in the patched shell.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nelsonw:
HI, im using Energty 23016 25/10 and no message until now. I has sync with my phone and everything its normal...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] icythunder:
Ofcourse I hard-SPL it, when I turne phone off and press vol down nothing happens.. can u please help how do I hard reset and re flash?

as in the tri color screen comes, just says RAPH 0.37 something.. no option to flash/undo lol.. HELP!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] silentP:
Ok, turn your phone off. Now, simultaneously hold vol down, hold the power button, and use your stylus to press the reset button on the bottom. That will take you to the tri-color screen. Plug your USB into your phone and reflash.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] icythunder:
It wont recognize my phone when connected though on the screen it does change from serial to USB... pc doesnt recognize it..!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] silentP:
If it changed from Serial to USB, it should be good to go. Try to flash.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] icythunder:
omg you're right! It did work! Just upgraded to Baseline Nov 2 ;)

I thought it wasnt because PC wasnt recognizing it was attached at all! but when It changed to USB and I ran ROM Update utility it WORKED!

Just a tip everyone: CHANGE your YEAR to 2008 so to avoid timebomb until Chefs cook in a fix for us :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JudgeDredd67:
You would have to change the date to 1998 to get the correct day data.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jaskel:
yep I had the same issue, I just pressed volume down and rset and it went into bootloader mode, just flashed the phone and all working fine now!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] scarequinha:
Hi people,

I have a problem.

Since I installed the official WM 6.5 portuguese rom last week, the data transfer speeds from pc to TD2 decreased a lot!

It takes about 9 hours to transfer 250MB to TD2 memory card through the USB cable! :eek:

Am I doing something wrong?

Is there any option I have to connect / disconnect to increase the data transfer speed?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Greetings from Portugal
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Mike Austin:
Are you using disk drive mode, or ActiveSync mode? The former is much quicker. You need to check your connection options in case it defaults to ActiveSync without prompting.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] scarequinha:
It's slow both ways.

It asks everytime I connect which mode I want.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Mike Austin:
How about temporarily disabling antivirus, disk defragmenter etc? Maybe they started up coincidentally. Check what is happening in Task Manager when you transfer files.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] scarequinha:
Thanks for the suggestion but it didn't work either.

Any more ideas?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] sualc:
I had the same problem after using for a while udK Leo R5 WM6.5, at first it woked well, then slowed down, then couldn't see my SD card anymore :mad:. Actually this happens with almost every WM6.5 I tried. I reported this issue dozens of times, going to do it once again in udk ROM related thread, with no hope. Back to my old beloved TomTopaz WM6.1 !!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pierro10:
The french official WM 6.5 rom has been released on HTC site ,I can't download it for now ,probably because I bought my TD2 to Vodaphone (SFR)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Padder:
Maybe you should read the stickys first.... same french file version, same crc
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Thread Closed, existing Topic in the stickies.

Dave
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] djungelmums:
I have a Hero but im thinking of changing to a Magic because theres so little developers for the Hero and i'd like to run android without rosie.

Would you recommend me to keep the hero or not? And why?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] stu-k:
I thought they were pretty much the same just the magic looks better than the big chin hero
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ChaoticEko:
trade

ill trade ya my magic for the hero lol
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] blackvyper:
I have a Magic but the Sprint Hero looks like the Magic.. switching phones from one to another serves no purpose as the Magic can run Hero ROM's with no problems... as is evident by my Youtube video :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOM4xqu64mI
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ronni.rasmussen:
Hmm the design is quite difference IMHO. The hardware on the other hand is the same except for the camera which is 5mp on the hero. But i don't think he is reffering to the Sprint Hero :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] st0kes:
If you end up trading make sure you get the 32A Magic in case you ever do want to run Rosie again. The 32B needs all sort of memory hacks to get it working and even then it's not the best (in my humble opinion).
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DopyG:
Dont change it....

At least its confirmed that Hero willl get Android 2.0....
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] ronni.rasmussen:
If the Hero gets it i can't see why the Magic 32a wont get it as well, at least im sure that the xda developers will cook it for us as soon as it comes to the Hero :)
[HD2 General] troubletop:
I am a physician who want a big screen PDA phone to read text in several medical programs --> LEO is very very big screen and with capacitive screen --> I love it very much :)

But I want to know that HD2 can work with medical program?

such as Uptodate, skyscape, Isilo etc...

Now, I know that no one sure about this... just discussing :D
[HD2 General] gonfeijum:
i am interested in this post too....i think all aplications for windows mobile can be instalated.

Pardon for my english, my teacher is very bad....or perhaps i am a very bad student;)
[HD2 General] troubletop:
from WMpoweruser.com topic 2/11/52

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=9573

They said

PocketPC.ch have been the first to really test how well the HTC HD2, with is 4.3 inch capacitive screen, works with our older, more complex applications such as Pocket Informant and SBSH Weather.

The video shows that HTC has implemented a multi-touch system that allows one to enlarge the view and gain access to the older, smaller, less finger friendly controls in those apps. Microsoft is in the process of implementing a similar idea as seen in leaks of Windows Mobile 6.5.1, but as usual apparently less elegantly than HTC.

This feature works in all applications tested, but the process remains difficult with small controls, indicating a need to move towards more finger-friendly applications in a future where all devices have less precise capacitive screens.

Read more at PocketPC.ch here. --> they also has youtube video show multitouch zooming in those older programs..

I think the possible problem that make you can't use medical program & many Old apps is capacitive screen (I love capacitive screen ^^)..... that make you some problems when input in small area(skyscape programs have many..) ... but this wmuser topic is our hope!! >>> It's only hope... I'm not sure whether "Multitouch Zooming" support many programs or not.... but I trust in it's large screen with make every thing in screen large enough for input.

PS. I have bad english too .. don't be shame ^^
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
Hello to all, medical student here too. Well, in theory (as noone actually has the device in their hands yet) all the apps that used to work on wm 6.1 (wvga of course) should work on this device. The simple fact that the HTC HD2 has a capacitive screen does not change the fact that it runs on WM6.5 ... sure it doesn.t have the stylus but i don.t think we need one on a 4.3 display screen (even though HTC allready announced the magnetic stylus as an accesory for the ones insisting on using it)

So, in short theoretically all the apps that used to run on a wm device will work on the HD2 without any problems
[HD2 General] D.O.C:
colleages, good news, all medical app u mentioned above work like a charm, it is incredible to scroll through text with this baby, it is well worth it
[HD2 General] Step2p:
There are problems with skyscape applications and uptodate.

Moving your finger up and down results in text selection instead of scrolling.

I have already started a new thread with this issue, but unfortunately there is no answer yet.
[HD2 General] troubletop:
Really? Hmm... That is the big problem for me. I like to touch the screen and moving my finger slide around the text to move up and down instead using scroll bar.

Anyway, I want to know how you can manage this problem. Do you use the scroll bar instead of using touch slide? How scroll bar work? I mean can you touch the direction key in scrollbar despite its small size with HD2? or touch anywhere in scroll bar to move the page to direction you want
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
There is a work around, either you scroll by taping the scroll bar on the right, or you scroll by poping up the virtual keyboard and using the arrows there ( even on my old TP1, when you tried scrolling by actually fliking the finger, it resulted in text selection)

So in short, skyscape should work fine.

PS: I.ve heard (as i get the device next week and don.t have it yet) that if you try to scroll by actually moving the scrollbar on the right, that a square box should appear and make it a lot easyer, seen it on a youtube video.
[HD2 General] Step2p:
I think that I have found a temporary solution

Install Ftouchsl and add exceptions for (at least) the following applications

manila.exe

shell32.exe

Opera9.exe

HTCalbum.exe

Also add an exception for Window name = "Phone"

Include in the exclusion list any other application that you want to use with the original htc's sense interface.

For the rest of the applications you will be able to use touchscrolling via ftouchsl.

This will ONLY influence touchscrolling. Multitouch (if enabled) will continue to work.
[HD2 General] D.O.C:
although indeed, when trying to scroll in uptodate, it selects text, the scroller bar its very usefull. Anyway, we all know this is a software problem, and the main reaseon we all on XDA upgrade our phones its because of the hardware. Th screen on this device compesates for all its software flaws. Just my opinion.
[HD2 General] dr_s:
I use a lot of skyscape books and am particularly interested in this too. Currently, using Touch Pro2. Interested in HD2 but same confusions regarding skyscape. Already disappointed that notes application can not be used as a free sketch/drawing, which is a big drawback. If skyscape also cannot be used then HD2 with capicitative screen is useless and would rather prefer resistive screen of touch pro 2. :cool:
[HD2 General] Step2p:
It can.

Just read my post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4944443&postcount=9
[HD2 General] troubletop:
Thank you for your solution....however I don't have the device yet. :(

May be about next month when HD2 come to my country..I should try
[HD2 General] Step2p:
I have tried it and it works even better than the original htc touchflo because you can both scroll and select text.

I am still adding programs in the exception list and will come back with a list of applications that should be blocked.
[HD2 General] troubletop:
Another interesting point in HD2... Step2p, I want to know your touchscrolling experience when you activated it. The moving page...Does it feel like "repeately press on the scroll bar directional button"(up or down) which is the same as before when you use touchscrolling with other WM device...or Does it feel smooth as Iphone(you can make it smooth on previously WM device by touch the screen and drag the page by hold your finger/stylet on the screen.

I want to know this... if it smooth as I said ...it will be great!. but if it just like the older before I still love this device.

I beg you guys, who has HD2...esp. step2p thankyou ^^
[HD2 General] Step2p:
@troubletop

Scrolling in medical applications is not naturally supported by hd2, but using ftoushsl and adding exceptions for the rest of the applications in your device will solve this problem.

Touchscrolling is very smooth.

I have already had experience with ftouchsl in my X7500 and touchscrolling was excellent. It is better from htc's intrinsic touchscroll, because it allows you to configure both scrolling and text selection (with prolonged pressure).

The capacitive screen makes scrolling experience even better (although the application is the same), because you don't need to apply pressure in order to scroll.

Unfortunately however, I can not provide you with comparative data to iphone's scrolling experience, because I have never had an iphone.
[HD2 General] lovanova:
Do you already have the updated list of programs that should be included in the exception list?

I haven't installed the software yet (Ftouchsl), basically because I'm afraid I would disable several scrolling features that I like about HD Sense.

In fact, I'd rather prefer that Ftouchsl allows the opposite -that is, to include in a list ONLY the programs you want the Ftouchsl to work on, and not an exception list, you know what I mean? Because in my case, I want the old original HD scrolling feature for a couple of programs only: Skyscape and Epocrates.
[HD2 General] kartikatre:
Ftouchsl?

Hi All, where do I download/install the ftouchsl program for HD2. Is this uninstallable, just in case there are problems:confused:
[HD2 General] kartikatre:
I have suddenly lost the small square that used to appear while scrolling on the scroll bar. Anyway of getting it back?
[HD2 General] GeitjeG:
I noticed this behaviour as well. I don't think there is a solution. Scrolling to the bottom of a very long file takes a while this way... I compensated by increasing the sensivity in setting of FTouchSL, so I can scroll faster.

BTW is use UptoDate a while with FTouchSL, and it makes is so much more convenient...

I think the same, instead of excluding apps, I think including would be more efficient. However, it takes a few minutes to exclude all apps you want, really not much hassle.

Sometimes it's anoying if a new app seems to malfunction, and later on I realize FTouchSL was interfering and making the trouble.

Hopefully, a better app will come out soon, however newer apps will support touch scrolling anyway.
[HD2 General] hale:
very interesting thread....

btw, has anyone try to view chm files? i want to know if it would be good too like in iphone because too bad windows mobile doesn't have native app for viewing chm. i have several chm ebooks which don't have table of contents...the table of content itself blend with the html. i don't know how to explain it better...but these several ebooks can't be opened in windows mobile(i've tried microolap or allreader trial to view it but it would open normally in iphone). does anyone has experience with these kind of ebooks with htc leo? i would like to have this device too if it could view chm perfectly...
[HD2 General] yeancheant:
are you guys having problem where sometimes clicking on a topic in uptodate brings it up in opera rather than uptodate own browser. this doesn't work very well though.
[HD2 General] imperiallight:
I havent found a good .chm reader like on the iphone. You can always convert to html and then to mobipocket format though.
[HD2 General] GeitjeG:
Yes having the same prob here. Found no solution, it's uniform for all HD2 at least. It happens when you open the same article for the second time in one session.
[HD2 General] pizzaman79:
I've had no problem with this at all on my touch HD with the original rom. Also, when a rom from the HD2 (see note) i had no problems. For me it works like this: use stylus, fingernail or other sharp object for selecting, using my whole thumb is scrolling. Try it, it will propably work for you too.

(My ROM: Laurentius26 HDLEOV4 Ultimate serie, CE OS 5.2.21869 (Build 21869.5.0.82), ROM version 1.59.709.0 (48753))
[HD2 General] GeitjeG:
Is Opera your default browser?
[HD2 General] gboros:
I can't test laurentius rom right now, but if anyone could confirm that would be nice :D

About the scrolling I did the trick with FtouchSL, after all there aren't so many apps to add to the exclusion list. Tomorrow I think I can post my file, at least has the settings for manila and the apps that i use most.

I posted a threat about my other problem, with 6.5.x roms. It would be nice if someone could provide some feedback about that:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=627827

Cya docs!
[HD2 General] pizzaman79:
Yes, but i think the issue discussed here was scrolling in stand-alone apps like skyscape.

In Opera you can turn text selection on or off.
[HD2 General] GeitjeG:
Sorry, I was confused with another matter discussed up here, when opening an article for the second time, it opens in Opera instead of in UpToDate's internal browser.

Any one else having this behaviour?
[HD2 General] dejanrecek:
Skyscape apps and HD2

The HD2 is my 5 HTC phone and I was using the Skyscape apps on all of them. Have had no major problems with them on HD2, the only thing I consider a nuisance is when using the Archimedes plugin for dosage calculator in DrDrugs I am unable to select the measure (mg, g, mcg...) Otherwise it works perfectly.
[HD2 General] dejanrecek:
... some more... HD2 & Skyscape...

Forgot to write in previous post.... I was very glad to find out that the only thing I had to install to the HD2 is the free Archimedes 360 app everything else works perfectly from the SD card I uninstalled from my old Trinity.

Scrolling works OK. You just have to drag close to the scroll bar and it changes to a slider and works like a charm. Annoying is only the topic selection on the right, since it's only text but I got used to it and I have LARGE hands (gloves size 9 for those surgically inclined :) )
[HD2 General] gboros:
Gloves 9?! Wow, mine is 7.5... :D

I was hoping that the finger scrolling was working, just sliding in the middle of the screen and not using the scroll bar. Just FtouchSL worked for me..

And besides me, anyone have already tried a 6.5.x rom without sucess?

Thanks!
[HD2 General] pizzaman79:
For me the finger scrolling in the middle of the screen works (without any special program installed apart from skyscape).

Edit: i've tried 5 different roms recently, all based on HD2, and with all of them the skyscape apps work without any problems, without any extra programs, and the finger scrolling works fine...
[HD2 General] drlalitv:
works like a charm!

been using skyscape and uptodate on my HD2 with no problems.the only thing is that for looking up a drug in uptodate one has to shut the default browser so that you can " agree" to the drug disclaimer that comes on the screen.scrolling uptodate takes time to get used to...:p
[HD2 General] doctajay:
Programs that have worked so far for me are:

1) Epocrates (full version)

2) UptoDate

3) Skyscape

4) Tasacon Pharmacopia

5) Sanford's Antimicrobial guide

OF all of those uptodate and epocrates work the best for me.
[HD2 General] drtom2007:
To run UpToDate on new 23xxx builds have a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=5661154#post5661154

Working apps:

Lexi-Comp Reader

Lexi-Calc

Lexi-Analyze

StyleTap to run old Palm apps (very old stuff:p)

Sanford Guide
[HD2 General] gboros:
Thanks, I'll try it later... but if it works I'll love u for ever :D