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[Off-topic] LordManhattan:
I have an Amiga A500, and i tried to get it started again a couple of weeks ago. It works, but i can't find the damn "boot floppy", and i don't have a mouse :(
[Off-topic] Occasus:
I love to remember the good old Amiga 500 times. Wish you fun with that & I'm sure you will have!
[General Topics] Moandal:
My understanding is that while there is some optimisation for finger use in WM6.5, there are other parts of the OS that are still best suited to a stylus. For example accurately selecting text in Word, or selecting a range of cells in Excel.

One of the reasons Apple took so long to come out with copy/paste in the UI is because they knew they had to make it work with a fat finger.

My point is that I wonder how wise it is to combine a capacitive screen with WM6.5 on the Leo. I'm sure it will work fine with the basic stuff, particularly in TF3D applications. However, if I can't easily use a finger for everything, then it's going to be a real pain either struggling to touch accurately with a finger or carrying around a capacitive stylus that I'll just lose after a couple of days.

What do you reckon?
[General Topics] Sc4Freak:
How optimised? The short answer is "not very". By default, the WM6.5 finger-friendliness is only skin deep. A few clicks and you'll quickly find yourself back at the ancient ugly stylus-designed interface from 2002.

TF3D makes things much, much nicer, but no matter how much you customise WM, there are many applications designed only for stylus use. Pocket Informant, for example, is a very useful PIM - but is difficult to use with only fingers. Many, many pieces of third-party software out there are the same. Really only a few applications are truly designed for fingers rather than stylus.

This is a problem that WM can't really fix. It's just a byproduct of the OS's age - it's been around in various forms since at least 2000. For the most part, applications written 5 to 10 years ago still work on modern WM devices. This is compounded by the fact that modern WM phones are still shipping with styluses.

I suppose if WM7 requires finger-friendly support, then things will improve considerably from third-party software companies. But until then, things are pretty dire.
[General Topics] resinis:
microsoft fired their director for windows mobile and is putting a fire under its mobile division's ass to make winmo7 a homerun. microsoft isnt sleeping on this anymore, expect big things next year for windows mobile...
[General Topics] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
I have a Touch Pro2 running a 6.5 ROM and I actually find that, in combination with the large WVGA screen, I rarely need the stylus even in applications made for previous versions of WM. Though TouchFLO helps, even when disabled I can still navigate without a stylus. However, occasionally finger precision isn't enough and I need the stylus, but for the most part, 6.5 is actually pretty finger friendly.

However, the 6.5 Build can make a huge difference with how finger friendly the ROM is, so it's not terribly accurate to say that all 6.5 builds are finger friendly when the features of different builds are so diverse.
[General Topics] hacker01:
Windows 6.5? Not very. Practically not at all. The outside is different but the insides are almost identical to 6.1

HOWEVER 6.5.1 is VERY finger friendly. There is a lot of difference and you can expect a lot more finger friendliness with the future builds of windows mobile.
[General Topics] martoto:
I am really looking forward for more detailed reviews about Leo, especially working with tiny UI elements, which are still there in WM 6.5. Actually, the changes of 6.5 are minor and it is not nearly as touch optimized OS. And in all of this hype about Leo no one talks about how we are going to work without stylus on this device. There already are a couple previews and some videos with a lot of "wow’s" about the first capacitive screen with multi-touch zoom in WM, but no any word or demo about using Excel or some other application that has many small buttons or things to click, drag and move. And aren't exactly these apps the real power of WM not the useless fancy weather effects, beautiful scrolling gallery (out of use for more than 20 pics) or multi-touch zoom only in few apps? I am not sure if the capacitive screen is an advantage or at least not for Windows. Nevertheless, soon we’ll see if I’m wrong (hope I am :-) ).
[General Topics] mr_Ray:
Well with my current 2.8" screen (Touch Pro) I genuinely can't remember the last time I had to get the stylus out to do anything. Moving to a device with over 2x the screen size, I can't see there being a big problem. Sure I'll be using more of my finger and less of the nail, but a >2x bigger screen should more than compensate for that!

That said, resistive is still probably going to be the technology of choice for smaller screens, especially since for a while at least MS plan for smaller(/cheaper) devices to stick with 6.x instead of 7.

As for 6.5's general finger-friendliness, it's ahead of 6.1 in some places but the difference isn't that big. 6.5.x is where the action is on that front, and at least we enthusiasts will be making the most of that, even if the average buyer won't be. Well, we'll be making the most of it until we first get the v7 leaks :D
[General Topics] Shasarak:
You can't use a nail at all on a capacitive screen, only skin.

I have a Touch Pro2 (3.6" screen) and I have to say that I use the stylus all the time - Opera 9.5 would be totally unuseable without it, and any time you start using a Windows app with radio buttons and checkboxes, the stylus is far easier. That would even more true if I couldn't use a fingernail for added accuracy compared to a finger. It remains to be seen how much difference WM6.5 and production Opera 9.7 make to that.
[General Topics] pistonripper:
I for one, just don't know what Microsoft is doing with this half arsed attempt of a finger friendly OS,

They are shipping 6.5.....the OS looks like one of the worst put together it looks very very rushed (we know its not...they've had more than enough time)

HTC with thier TouchFlo is a far more elegant solution.

Microsoft can stick 6.5 where the sun don't shine....

No such thing as a finger friendly Microsoft OS...yet
[General Topics] martoto:
A very simple example with app that every WM has - the mobile Excel. Open a new file and try to change the row height without using a stylus or a nail. It is possible but not near as easy, isn’t it? On a twice bigger screen, the row border will be almost the same thickness. So here a bigger screen won't help. Just imagine that you need to work with a similar interface every day. Now, tell me is there anything that can be done with capacitive screen but cannot with resistive? Don't get me wrong, I know that if you work only with fingers, capacitive screens are far better. But here we have windows mobile, and for these users that often leave the TouchFlo to use the true power of windows, the lack of possibility of precise pointing on the screen could be a big issue.
[General Topics] mr_Ray:
I never claimed that my usage was a template for every other person on the planet, and would never think to do so. For *me* capacitive has a few advantages over resistive, and likewise a few disadvantages, it pretty much comes out as a wash. I'd stil be as happy with the HD2 if it had a resistive screen.

My use of Excel on the go is purely simple data entry or just viewing. There are also other ways to resize than clicking on and dragging a line a pixel or two wide. I also recognise there are many people who would find such things infuriatin with *their* usage patterns, applications, and habits.

This whole issue really highlights Microsoft's biggest issue in Windows Mobi... er Windows Phone today. It's a stylus-based PDA OS trying to be a finger-based phone OS. The heritage is based entirely in yesterday's PDAs - where it was fantastic for the job and thrashed PalmOS in the marketplace.

However there's been a gradual change in usage of the OS from PDAs to phones, and the underlying systems just haven't adapted to the changes. The UI today is much the same as it was in 2002. If you want your OS on a modern smartphone where people want to pull their phone out of their pocket and tap and slide with their fingers, you just can't get away with an interface and screen tech from a 2002 PDA.

Be one or the other - create a side branch for the dwindling userbase who want a PDA or PDA/phone if you have to - but the core of the OS itself if you want it on a phone - just has to adapt to survive.
[General Topics] Moandal:
Thanks for everyone's thoughts. It seems to me that if WM6.5 is not fully optimized for finger use, which it's not, then HTC really shouldn't combine it with a capacitive screen. Simple as that.
[General Topics] Shasarak:
Well, that's a large part of the reason for TouchFLO/Sense UI, of course; WM6.5 by itself isn't sufficiently finger-friendly, but with the HD2's customised UI on top of it, it is (in HTC's opinion, anyway).
[General Topics] trentend:
But is it just where the balance of their expertise and development lies? One looks at the HTC Leo and it looks like an android device.....lots of hardware supported under Android, but not under WM.....and the whole thing kludged together to work on an operating system with built in short term obsolescence.

It seems to me that we are in a transition period. Hardware too sophisticated for WM 6.5, but development of WM7 and Android not yet complete.

I think WM is a dead duck until (and maybe beyond) WM7, and the inroads that other systems can make between now and it's release will probably give an indication of the future direction of mass market smartphones.

Given the apparent inability of Microsoft to deliver a satisfactory platform for ordinary users and developers alike, and Androids success in doing exactly that (although still early days), I see it going only one way for the mass market.

I've bought my last WM phone (I think). It was Blackstone.
[General Topics] atifsh:
in short like only 1 or 2 have already said.... 6.5 is not

6.5.1 [aka towards wm7] is very much finger optimised.

if u guys are not clear, then only the versions which have start buttons on bottom are 6.5.1 and can be used with one hand. 6.5 its a mixed bag and u have to use both hands sometimes.
[General Topics] Moandal:
What's the big difference between 6.5 and 6.5.1 then? I wouldn't have though a 0.0.1 version change would be much different. Also which version does the HD2 have? The specs I've seen say it's got 6.5.
[General Topics] Crazya:
Windows has really lost it's way. They need to pick a path tha makes sense and stick to it.

The way I see it there are two camps. the iPhone is for entertainment and the blackberry is more business oriented. Why they are going after the iPhone is beyond me. The pocketpc was an awesome business tool and they are trying to evolve it into an iPhone.

Look at Blackberry, most of their phones have no touch screen. They have a trackball! Yikes! But that works for business...

I routinely use my phone for powerpoint presentation, I use excel, I am an original PPC user and they are making the product stylus unfriendly and removing the hardware buttons...

I have the TP2 and I would trade in the touch screen for a scroll wheel, and a d-pad...

I don't think Windows can win against the iphone. They should go after blackberry...
[General Topics] Thom4s:
I think there's 2 things here.

Windows Mobile as an OS needs a lot of work IMO. The current hardware is so capable but still windows manages to be sluggish at times. This needs to be fixed, it should be rewritten for the ground up for the more capable modern hardware, better resource management, using all resources to make the thing go as smooth as possible.

Then for the interface ... well ... it's all in the name 'Pocket PC'. It's like a small computer, it even has a startmenu etc... that's how it was build. Devices changed though, and now we need finger friendly interface with eye candy and 3D.

Let's hope that Windows Phone 7 will be as good and revolutionary as Windows 7 for desktop. And let's hope that we won't have to buy a new phone to run it :p
[General Topics] Shasarak:
6.5.1 hasn't been released yet and won't be until somewhere around February. I wouldn't be surprised if the HD2 gets a 6.5.1 upgrade, although there's no guarantee. If you don't mind installing a "cooked" ROM then it may be available sooner in beta form.
[General Topics] HTC Touch Freak:
I had no trouble using my big nail-less thumbs on 6.1. WinMo 6.5 is better but not much different. You want something better install the 6.5.1 ROM. I've been using it for the last month and it's the most finger freindly version of WinMo.
[General Topics] slow88lx:
6.5 is better than 6.0/6.1 but you can tell the main purpose of 6.5.1 was to eliminate styli use and they succeeded IMHO.
[General Topics] Moandal:
If you're only ever using big nail-less thumbs with 6.1, there are a lot of features of WM you're simply not using.
[General Topics] HTC Touch Freak:
Trust me. I can hit all the little setting boxes and anything. I never used the stylus on my original touch either. Would you like a pic of my thumbs?

I've used every corner of winmo6.1. I just know how to use my thumbs. If people quit trying to use the pads of their thumbs and used the edges they'd be better off.
[General Topics] Moandal:
I'm sure you can hit the settings boxes with your thumbs. I can hit them with my nose but that doesn't make it the best, easiest way to do it.

You cannot easily and accurately select and cut text with fingers or thumbs in the same way as you can with a stylus for 2 simple reasons:

1) the contact point is about 10 times the size

2) your finger/thumb obscures the contact point so you can't see exactly where it is.

Apple have resolved that with their latest update. HTC haven't, and any talk of WM 6.5.1 is irrelevant when it won't appear for months, and maybe never officially on the Leo.
[General Topics] HTC Touch Freak:
I can select text and place the cursor anywhere I wish with my thumb. Exactly where I want it. I guess I just know how. Like I said most people use the pads of their thumbs which is less accurate and well cover most of the screen. I use the edges/sides. Heck I can type probably as fast as most people with full hard-qwerty keyboards with no to minimal error.

I'm just that good. I can't say that when I use my cousins iPhone or when I use my iPod touch or Zune HD.
[General Topics] Jakk212:
Well the only thing there is finger easy is the text function, all the other things are like the old 6.1, wait till the new windows mobil 7 comes!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] martyberg:
Hi

is there any swedish rom avalible for a swedish tyt IÌ?

Please!!!

Martin
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jaomi:
Yeah, there is.

http://www.htc.com/se/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=13&cat=2&dl_id=231

I'm using it and it works fine.

If you can't download, PM me and I'll give you a hand :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] martyberg:
Tytn II p4550 swedish 6.5 rom

Hi I ment it there a swedish 6.5 rom for tytn II i cant get the hardware keyboard to work with the english once..?

i tryed to change in windows directory with total command but it dosn´t work..

:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sinlinden:
Registry

You just need to change language keyboard layout in the registry.

change the registry value of HKLM>HARDWARE>DEVICEMAP>KEYBD>CurLang to 1044. Reboot then it´s fixed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mikklos:
Try abusalza's [PDACorner] Ultimate-X2.V11 -23017|M2D|MOTO Home|CHome|Enhanced Version.

Just make sure you flash a stock WM6 rom first.

Swedish T9 soft keyboard etc is included in the ROM but you still have to fix the hardware keyboard. To do this I use a program called "Scandinavian KB".

För Abusalza's excellent ROM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=507281

For Scandiavian KB

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3512681&postcount=1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] martyberg:
Tytn II p4550 swedish 6.5 rom

Hi again i have tried what you suggested, but it dosnt semce to work.

i have

Radio 1.71.09.01

Romversion: Ultimate-x2v11 wwe

what am i doing wrong

i i dont care about the soft-keyboard, but i wont the hardware-keyboard in swedish.

cause the letters on the keys are placed wrong..

please!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mikklos:
I forgot to mention that you should set Scandinavian KB to Norwegian/Danish, not Swedish. I know this sounds backwards but I remember reading it somewhere* and have done so ever since. It works for me at least!

*Found the post. It's originally a guide for Touch Pro aka Raphael, which I had for a short period of time, but point 4 apply for the Kaiser as well.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3536040&postcount=1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] martyberg:
super thanks!!!

hi and thanks alot it works super!

i am happy!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hykhleif:
Hey guys really I need ot have my device come to perfection, could you please help me in getting both arabic and hebrew support.

All I want is to be able to write and read hebrew and arabic letters
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bansawbanchee:
I hit enter key twice on home screen. it does nothing. then i type telnetd it searches for that contact. i hit enter once. then i hit home. then i download telnet. i type exactly whats in the guide. then reboot and hold power home it hangs at tmobile g1. i reinstalled the nbh 2 times already so thats not the issue anymore. I can get to basic setup but not recovery. if i just hit power button it goes to regular home. if i hold home and power it hangs. it hung all night on charger last night. and i did it agian now and its hanging
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supremeteam256:
Are you following this guide.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=563679
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bansawbanchee:
to the t

I actually had to un root and and im trying to re root.

my phone messed up big time but it wasnt brciked. I couldnt get to recovery b4 I unrooted or now

I had the new radio and the newest spl 10.95.3000 or something like that. but now im back on stock. Tmobile told me they will push out the 1.6 not the cupcake to me in 3 days so i cant even wait to get cupcake to do one click...im ****ed bro i need help lol
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supremeteam256:
So what happens when you type the commands in telnet for the recovery image.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bansawbanchee:
I hit enter after each one and it moves to next command line. nothing else. after the final one i hangs for like half a second like it did something. but its so fast unless you pay attention you wont notice it. then i immediately hit home key then power off and try to go to recovery where it hangs. but if i don't try to go to recovery it wont hang it boots fine.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supremeteam256:
I would try to redownload the recovery image. What was the initial problem why you unrooted and want to root back.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bansawbanchee:
k ill try to. Re do the recovery image. And see what happens
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bansawbanchee:
Phone froze up and wouldn't go to recovery while I was rooted. Couldn't get to fastboot either
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supremeteam256:
Yea I just read your other thread. See what those evil thoughts will do to your phone. lol. Yo you get down on madden.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bansawbanchee:
Na. No madden. Not since I had a ps2. Lol yea. What u think is wrong with this **** phone? I'm typing from g1 so I can't get the new recovery on phone yet till I get home. Fucvkin rc29 sucks no usb mount no pics....**** phone. Help pls. What could it be if its not the recovery image?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supremeteam256:
It kind of sounded like your recovery went bad somehow, but can't say for sure. The first thing I would have tried would have been to reflash the recovery while you still had root access but I know you already flashed RC29. Another thing you can try is the one click method and see if that will work so you don't have to go thru telnet.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bansawbanchee:
I thought I cant one click root in rc29? Only cupcake?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B-man007:
no it should work on all of them pre-donut. the flaw was discovered while on cupcake though
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hykhleif:
Hi guys I noticed that I have some issues with IGO lacking accuracy.

Please how could I fix that. Please can you tell me in detail since I am very bad in doing things with the registry I have T Mobile touch pro 2, and upgraded the it to official rom from europe using hardspl

Any cab file i could use to fix this problem
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] sammytkw:
Hi,

Just wondering if anyone have CE Star full version that will work with my SE X1 WM6.5 becuz now I cannot read and write (input) for traditional chinese character.

Thx
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] rickysio:
Wm6.5 does not work with CEStar? It is essentially WM6.1 with a new interface, that's all. No reason for it not to work...

NO warez request, btw.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] comeradealexi:
how do i disable SPB Mobile Shell plugin without unisntalling?

because there is no way to disable it!!! its really annoying!

thanks,
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmsc:
hi,

try delete \Windows\AutoStart\SpbMobileShell.lnk
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msc125:
what dmsc said stop it from autostarting

to exit, i do the following;

go to settings, then 'spb mobile shell', then press the arrow in bottom-right to bring up the menu, then select 'exit shell'
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] comeradealexi:
Thanks to both of you both worked great
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] atkrhome:
Hi

I am hoping for a little help, have an O2 XDA pocket pc, unlocked on the virgin network

Had all of my contacts on the sim card, which I have copied across onto the pda itself

When I receive a sms text message it just tells me the telephone number its from but, not the actual name, even though the number is in my contacts

Can anyone help please ?

Thanks
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Rudegar:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=229709&highlight=contact+sms
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] atkrhome:
Excellent, thanks so much for the link, did the job nicely :)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] cs_bp:
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[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] maria_david202:
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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] impstation:
I just flashed my fone with various 6.5 ROMS, and ive settled with 5.08.502.1 WWE, but i dont think its the final 6.5 version.

it doesnt have the finger tab swipe thingie at the top of the screen, this one actually has tabs and the contact program in it is basically from 6.1.

i was wondering since i i been lookin for a "close to official" ROM as possible, does the official release on 6.5 have the start menu on the botton or top?

does anyone know of a build that is as close to the original M$ release, either without the TF3D or able to turn it off and use the large windows home screen, cos all the roms i have had when u turn TF3D off it goes into 6.1 style home screen and there isnt the "Windows Default" item in the Today settings.

or is there a way to take the bits i want from multiple ROMs and stick them in my own?

any help would be amazin
[P3470 General] LenaertsJeroen:
Hey there,

I saw several roms with the new 6.5.1 windows mobile version. Does anyone know if there are such roms working for the P3470?

I would like one very much... I'm running the latest shifu wich runs very (!) smoothly...Thanks in advance!
[P3470 General] joerivk:
Hey,

I work with windows mobile 6.5.1 on my pharos and works fine !!