yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fabsn:
i don't agree. i use 1 or 2 of the sense widgets MAX. same with the software. adding a widget and 1 or 2 programs takes a second while removing all the crap u dont need is more work.

i want a REALLY basic & light release, as other people requested before.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] wicked_beav:
Alright, for those of you who haven't followed or been around the mod scene whether it be Android or WinMo... the best way to honestly approach this is to make the most basic light rom possible for speed and then to add in only what "you" need that way it's as fast as it could possibly be. For those that say it's easier to uninstall, some people may or may not know what they are doing could break functionality in their phone if they do something wrong while uninstalling. This makes it more the reason to remove everything as Evil mentioned he would create an update.zip to install the widgets back in. As far as the apps he includes, those are easily found in the market and you could take a few moments to download those if you really want them. Look forward to you stripping this bad boy down to nothing. Just leave the clock like said, or not. I personally use weather widget as it's not as much of a resource hog. And most of those widgets have very nice replacements like the contacts, or calender and these replacements are faster which means faster phone.

EDIT: Also Evil, does this put anything onto ext2/3 as I want to completely eliminate my ext2/3 or shrink it down some more if possible. What do you think?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fishman0919:
That be nice....

Ultra smooth rom. It would be very hard to turn this one down.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] HuMpS 97 DoHc:
So you find it hard to run a batch file something like this hard??? gets rid of alot of stuff faster then you can install it all back I gaurantee it.

adb devices

adb remount

adb shell rm /system/app/BizCardReader.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/BizCardReader.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/com.htc.PlurkWidget.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/com.htc.PlurkWidget.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/com.htc.StockWidget.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/com.htc.StockWidget.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/DCSStock.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/DCSStock.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/HTCHoroscopeWidgets.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/HTCHoroscopeWidgets.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/HTCNewsWidgets.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/HTCNewsWidgets.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/HTCStockWidgets.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/HTCStockWidgets.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcFootprints.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcFootprints.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcFootprintsWidget.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcFootprintsWidget.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcPlurk.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcPlurk.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcSoundRecorder.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcSoundRecorder.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcTwitter.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcTwitter.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/PCSCII.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/PCSCII.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/Stock.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/Stock.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/Tether.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/VoiceDialer.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/VoiceDialer.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/VoiceSearch.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/VoiceSearch.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/AmazonMP3.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/AmazonMP3.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/com.htc.MusicWidget.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/com.htc.MusicWidget.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/GlobalTime.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/GlobalTime.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/htcbookmarkwidget.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/htcbookmarkwidget.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/htccalendarwidgets.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/htccalendarwidgets.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcClockWidget.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcClockWidget.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/htccontactwidgets.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/htccontactwidgets.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/htcmailwidgets.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/htcmailwidgets.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/htcmsgwidgets.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/htcmsgwidgets.odex

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcPhotoWidget.apk

adb shell rm /system/app/HtcPhotoWidget.odex

adb shell reboot
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
Don't worry, if I create a light version, the other version will still be here.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ElChouch:
It's not hard to rm apps/widgets out neither...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Xi2wiked:
only problem i've found so far in 1.5 besides the fc the first time i run backgrounds on a fresh install is the overclock widget, its completely unresponsive, i always have to uninstall then go to the market to re-download, then it works perfect.

Awesome rom Evil, loving 1.5 so far!!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
Alright, I have a base small sense build now. All I can say is OMG! Seriously, this is speed maxed out. I have removed ALL widgets and moved back etc, customize and fonts. This is structured like a REAL google build now. EVERYTHING this time is on the system partition. There is one caveat though, I was not able to install all the other missing items. It looks like I was able to squeeze in a little over 6MB after the install. It still gives you plenty of options. HTC_IME is over 4MB itself, so If you absolutely need it, you're not giving yourself any more options.

Attached is a list of apk's not including in the base build. If there is a consensus of what ppl would like as an addon pack, I will create an update script for an update. It has to be under 6.5MB though.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jonstanley2:
These are the only ones I would need from your attached txt file:

com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk

HtcTwitter.apk

com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk

Maps.apk

htccontactwidgets.apk

HtcClockWidget.apk

if thats not over 6.5mb??
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jabbawalkee:
Addon pack:

-Twitter+widget, Clock Widget, Small Calendar Widget, People Widget, Messages Widget, Bookmarks Widget

That's all I need. If space is needed, I could go without the Messages/Bookmarks Widgets :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] rgbc:
How are you finding the interface response with the nonBFS kernel?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mt3g:
modaco didnt use bfs and his interface was the shole cause of the swipies...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Aldri:
i'd use the following:

com.htc.MusicWidget.apk

com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk

HtcClockWidget.apk

HTC_IME.apk

Maps.apk
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
small SenSe is now available along with the update pack. Check it out and let me know how you guys like it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] :
edit: ARGGHH..........stupid me, actually it WORKS, I've typo in mmsc previously..pls ignore this post :P
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] squidbutt:
its pretty darn slow for me annd i got a 512 meg ext 3 and a 60 linux
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] :
hi...yeah the interface response is super fast now...however as I mentioned above, I can't get my 3G Internet to work, are you facing the same issue since we're pretty much on the same rom+kernel...:confused:

thanks..:o
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] danfozzy:
can i just delete the apk's that i dont want out this update, then install fine?

noticed the manifest file has reference to everything, if i delete the files, and update the manifest file will that be the trick?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
no, you will need to sign it first.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] rgbc:
Are you using Case_'s 2.6.29 BFS or nonBFS kernel, haven't tried his kernels for a while.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hitman4485:
havent tried this yet but i think i will...question? now normally everytime i remove a build i remove all of those apks you have listed except maps and htc keyboard. is it because that they are all moved to the system that makes this so fast?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] crxtasi:
Hey evil just want to say thanks for the hard work been with your rom since 1.7. I know my donation's small but just wanna show my appreciation :D

keep up with the good work!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] danfozzy:
so if i delete the apks i dont want, update the manifest file, then sign it im good to go?

how do i get it signed lol
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] :
Thanks for your reply, 3G internet now works for me (it was typo..):o

Anyway Case_ has released a 32A kernel patch specially/specifically for eViL sense 1.5 (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=564949)

hopefully all 32A users can benefit from it and we should all thank Case_!!!!:D

by the way, which rom/kernel are you using now since you're not with Case's anymore? :confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
search the Dream forum, you should find something there.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jay188:
A2sd

Evil D you are a genius. I know your planning on not making any more a2sd versions but it would be cool if you did or do one with and without like youve done in the past. regardless im a fan. thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] avimak:
Can someone upload the Mail widget too? I'm using exchange and I like it :)

eViL D: - you are the man.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] fabsn:
Concerning the small sense release, plain installation (no errors):

overclock widget not working, getting FCs

and: wtf i though this is a "small" rom. where do audio mana, adfree, ak notepad, astro, backgrounds, beyond bod, biz card etc come from?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] crxtasi:
you can always uninstall guy! :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] futangclan:
I don't understand people *****ing about little things in these ROMs. Evil has put in a lot of work.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
Certainly appreciate it! Thanks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
In a nutshell. Did you read my OP?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
Exact same as mine. Got a warranty? Try exchanging it. I know we've talked in the past about this on my Hero ROM. Try my newest sense.....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] wicked_beav:
Alright... so all I can say is helluva good job Evil!!!!! Finally a dev who did it right, IMHO. Like I said, just an opinion but it's hella fast. Just a few random apps to remove, push htc_ime in and call it a day
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] adept777:
pardon my ignorance.. i had just rooted my mytouch3g with the one click root from the unlocker. Can i just download this rom and put it in my sd card with the name changed to update and run it? will that be it or should i do something else?? thanks a lot guys!

p/s iam now running the RZR v1.2 (Featherweight) - "The Essentials" which is awesome but way to slow for me..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] wicked_beav:
You don't need to rename, just put on root of sd card and flash. Go with small sense 1.0, fastest **** in your life.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jmannyjr33:
So small sense 1.0 doesnt have NO widgets at all? No clock widget,calender,people? If i want to flash this rom ,what kind of partotion do i need? I now have fat32/ext3/128 LS...

Thanx in Advance..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] juanavila:
What you will need to do is Format your SD card into two "partitions": The first parition will be the largest, and it will be a FAT32 Partition, that way Windows/Mac will recognize it as a plain old SD Card (A.K.A. a Mass Storage Device). The second partition will be a Linux Swap consisting of 128MB of space. I HIGHLY recommend using something called G-Parted Live to make all of these partitions. Google it for more info.

And no, most of the widgets are gone. The main widgets left are the Search and Settings Widgets. The ROM is very fast however, and if like the Stock ROM speed/stability but want the Hero/Sense GUI look, use this ROM. Otherwise, try eViL's other Hero ROM, which is just as great!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
There is an update/addon for the small sense. Read the OP, it says what's in it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jmannyjr33:
I have a 8gb = 8166mb , so i basically create a Fat32 8038 / Linux swap 128?

I used adb parted to partition my sdcard. Or do i need to creat fat32/ext2/LS 128 THEN remove ext2 (rm 2)?

Is v1.5 fast?

Thanx
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] wicked_beav:
No need for ext2/3... but if you have it there it doesn't hurt anything. I left mine as I didn't feel like re-partitioning. Your call.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jmannyjr33:
Thanx for your help.

on my way to FLASH.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] juanavila:
eViL/Other users of Small Sense V1.0, every-time I exit an application by hitting the Home Key, the HTC Logo appears and about 2-3 seconds later, I get the Home Screen Loading icon. I'm going to try and do wipe/re-flash to see if it helps. Maybe someone can corroborate this for me?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
Do you have 3 partitions? fat32/ext/ls?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] crxtasi:
Ditto ;)

you Sir are very much welcome!:D

Same question as Evil about your SD card partitioned right and also Did you set up your Swapper and Overclock properly?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Ahanix:
Evil D,

I've been hovering these forums for the last few months, and just created an account to say thanks for the hard work you have been doing for the members here, myself especially. I've been following your work, and just installed your Small Sense v1, running the stock 4gb SanDisk card that came with the phone (mytouch3g), threw it on fat32/ext3/swap and this thing is running like a dream. Anyways, thanks again and keep up the good work!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] juanavila:
Actually, I don't. :o I formatted the Sd Card as Fat32/128 MB LS, since I didn't think I needed the EXT Partition also. I'll try that before I re-flash.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bigdbag:
This is the fastest Sense rom I have ever used. It beats Maxisma's out of the water in terms of stability as well.

Question, I installed Swapper and use 96Mb w/ 60 swappiness. Is this an ok setting?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] juanavila:
I use Swappiness of 75 (Think of it in fractions; three quarters of the time I'll probably need faster swapping). I also made my Linux-Swap partition 128MB, but that's only because of the tips from other users. I have no clue if this is more than enough, but it surely doesn't make me any slower.:)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jmannyjr33:
I have a 128 linux swap. what settings would you recommend for swapper?

Fastest Rom i ever tried ,and i just came from reignzones rom , and his rom was pretty fast. sticking with this one though...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] juanavila:
eViL, the HTC Screen now only appears when I exit ANY Settings menu. For example, I was in the Applications program removing some Apps and when I hit the Home Key, I got a FC (process.google.settings, or something like that) and then the HTC Logo came up and I waited. I already formatted the SD card. Also, does the HTC-IME keyboard work? I get a force-close every time I need to type something, although the regular keyboard works perfectly.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bigdbag:
I just found this problem out as well. Tried installing HTC-IME keyboard, FC's every time. I see the Latin-IME but it doesn't work. Nothing shows up in the Locale/Text Menu in Settings.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jmannyjr33:
I cant seem to find HTC widgets in your small sense v1 rom. like HTC Clocks Twitter
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hitman4485:
yes of course i always do. i dont want to be "that guy". just wondered if maybe there was another factor thats all
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
You need to download and apply the update in the OP.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
I know, i'm just messing with you. We've been taught that the fastest route between point A and point B is a straight line.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jonstanley2:
So pretty much google should be knocking down your door Evil

This rom is so fasttttttt

you keep surprising us with speed lol

running small sense v1 + Addon

lovin every minute of it

:D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
Lol, glad you like it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jmannyjr33:
Sorry for my ignorance but do i just download it and put the zip file in the sd card root?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jonstanley2:
put it on like u did v1

flash, reboot. easy peasy
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jmannyjr33:
lol thanx.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] htcclay:
Evil,

Beautiful job on this!

I have a question if I may...

Do you have any issues with "wake issues" with your ROM?

My mt3g has issues with the screen when it sleeps or I make it sleep.(With all new hero ROM.)

When I wake it by pressing menu I get a black screen with sometimes just one white line or a black screen with a white fuzzy box.

The only way to get it back to a usable phone is to alternate pressing end then menu and continue this until it decides to actually start working.

I have a logcat if you would like to see?

Respecting your work!;)

clay
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
No, no wake issues.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] htcclay:
I have a hard time getting my point across most of the time.:(

What I mean is...I have wake issues with your ROM and all new hero ROM.

Do you have anyone reporting the same problems with their screen doing this?

Ive wiped...

Formatted my card through parted to make sure that stuff isn't being left behind.

I always wipe twice....what gives?:confused:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] htcclay:
Awhile back enom and I really tried to find out what was causing this.

He was doing most of the work as I was just being the guinea pig flashing and pulling logcats.

I spoke with Eugene and he thinks its a kernel issue.

Just curious if you have had or even heard of this problem?

Clay
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
You're the first one that has reported this. There was a problem in the past, in my other thread, but nothing in this one.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ripmeck:
this rom is fast but ive expierenced alot faster roms. im going to repartition and wipe and try again. so far no bugs though . great job
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Xi2wiked:
This rom is awesome, thank you Evil!! It's reliable enough for daily use, without the sleep/wake bug as ive experienced in all other roms, plus its FAST on my mytouch. Thanks again!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] adept777:
Thanks much!! just another quick question; do i have to partition my 2 gb card? or do i need a bigger card? Also after doing that can i swap it to a 4gb card?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
Yeah? Which one(s)?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mavsfan:
I have the same wake issues, but not with enom's roms or AmonRa's roms. I get the same thing you get htcclay. Very hard to wake up, and when it does sometimes I see white lines when it tries to wake up. Sometimes I have to pull the battery. So I gave up on Hero roms, but would love to try evil D's but I am just tired of flashing hero rom after hero rom only to see my mt3g doesn't like any of them :( I followed you guys with enom, but never tested. I know you did and thank you, but I was wondering what became of that issue. I guess it just fizzled...

On the other hand, I had the same problem with Cy's older versions, but his latest versions I can run with no wake problems whatsoever. So I can run it seems like any donut rom and I don't get the wake issues. Enom, Amon, and Cy's are the ones I run on my mt3G.

Sorry did not mean to hijack your thread evil d.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
So, you have this problem with MY ROM?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mavsfan:
I haven't tried your rom as of yet, was just replying to htcclay, but I will try your rom and report back to you but will be tomorrow. Every other sense/hero ROM (and I have tried a lot of them) i have tried I get the same issues so far, but I have not tried your rom yet.

Sorry for hijacking your thread - back on topic......
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] bigdbag:
eViL, do you know what the keyboard menu means when you long press the number button on the android keyboard, it says

Android keyboard

-Android keyboard settings

-Sep

What does Sep mean? When I click it all there is is Android keyboard. In the keyboard menu settings, Touch is not available as an option.

*edit* I am using the v1.5 small rom in addition to your addon update pack. I tried pushing the HTC_IME myself and it fails as juanavila describes below.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] juanavila:
I don't know what Sep means, but if you click it, a menu will bring up the available keyboards to use. If you're using the Lite Hero ROM, then the Touch (a.k.a. HTC_IME.apk) is not installed in the ROM, and you do install it, it will show up, but the keyboard doesn't actually work. You will receive a force close every-time you try and use it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jonstanley2:
If Im reading correctly on how to add what widgets I want for the small sense build, theoretically there will only be enough room for about 2 out of the entire list since it can only fit 6.5 mb?

eg:twitter + twitter widget= about 6.5mb??

and thats all that will fit?

help me understand plz

Thanks

*EDIT* I reread and found out that the number following the name is the size? Not the listed Kb size farther to the right?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
Right, the number in the actual name is the size.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jonstanley2:
perfect. Everything I need without the extra clutter. Thats the way to go :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] juanavila:
eViL, do know why the HTC Keyboard doesn't work?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
What's going on?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Tobi87:
why is some of the widget are in black an white???:D

stilll loving this ROM best one!!!!! :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
It's only the preview of which widget you want. The actual widget is NOT black and white.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Tobi87:
why i ask cause one of the clock widget i use the weather doesn't show on the bottom of the clock... :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] TruTechGeek:
hey evil, im coming from the mighty max rom and i was wondering if ur small sense rom supported separate ringtones for separate contacts because his hero rom didnt....
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Aldri:
On rom 1.5 (not small) the market doesn't work for me: i have "starting download" but it never starts :(

it's the same bug i had on 1.3 (I haven't tested 1.4)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
You may have to set you city and initiate wifi. I'm using it right now.

I use ringo, haven't tried the built in one. *just looked, it looks as if you can, but i have not included many tones.

I'm absolutely sure it works. I downloaded all my purchases before releasing the ROM. Try signing into gtalk first.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] :
just want to drop a note to say THANKS to eViL, it's great to have so many brilliant 'cookers' in xda:D

my advice to others, go for eViL sense 1.5 and UNINSTALL whichever stock app you don't like via manage application, and for those you can't remove (i.e. sim toolkit, mail), use root explorer to REMOVE them once and for all!! == small sense

cheers :D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] crxtasi:
Guys dont use the HTC_IME.apk for donut found in cyanogen's thread.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] eViL D::
Use mine in the downloads. Plus it's skinned.