yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
You can download showcase's task manager, which will unfortunately show up on top of the taskbar clock at the top left (which doesn't bother me), and you can click it, and a list of programs will come up, and you can select which ones you want to close, or close them all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
Arrup- Sorry I have not downloaded the ROM yet, I will download the new rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Shutting Down Programs

Thanks all ... I'll defer going to Task Manager (in Settings) and turn stuff off there. It was easier to be a click away. And The dotFred task manager might be easier to get to if you load it as a program in the program tab, but that one's too technical. I want something that shows me a program is running, then let me shut it off/close it. The delivered task manager does that.

Looking forward to the new build!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Unfortunately HTC task manager will not ever work in 6.5.1

MANY chefs have tried to find a way. It is just not possible. The app polls for the x in top right and it is not there. Therefore it has no way to close the apps.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] khtims:
Thanks, this will be awesome! I am hoping it will be up soon cuz i really like this ROM and am looking forward to this new build. Thanks for making this for us and taking your time to do it right!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Ring Tone Volume ...

Is anyone else experiencing a low volume on your ring tones? I hadn't noticed this at all before, but for some reason the ring volume on incoming calls is very low on my phone with this version of the ROM.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RemE:
I'm not on this rom yet, but my current ring volume is very low as well.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
PMed you update let me know wha u thinkz
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] snl702:
Ringtones

I am new but did flash the beta 2. I noticed that custom ring tones are coming in really low. Defaults are loud. Used the same ring tones on other

ROMS and they were loud.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] snl702:
You Tube

I'm using the TP2 for T-Mo USA, and my You Tube won't load at all, any Fixes or cabbs. It was working then a day ago gone. Tried running with my data plan and wifi, but still not working.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Do me a favor and uninstall the hotfix and tell me if it changes :)

You on a older version or different rom all together?

What have you installed? That might help me track it.

FYI is wont work right over wifi. Hasnt on any device ive ever had.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Ring Volume ...

Bryan, I uninstalled the hotfix and the volume level was the same. I did notice that the volume got louder (probably doubled) as the call was disconnected. In other words, I call my cell from my home phone and the ring volume was the same before and after the hotfix uninstall. But as I disconnected the call from my home phone, I noticed the volume of the ring got substantially louder for a split second. So something seems to be going on with the ring volume ... just don't know what.

BTW, when uninstalling hotfixver3, I got a popup saying that it could not be completely uninstalled. Same when I went to reinstall it ... it suggested it was going to uninstall it before installing it (again) and couldn't. I just chose to ignore and go ahead and reinstall.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Thanks for the feedback. Ill see if I can track anything down. I havent really noticed it but prolly because ATT always makes their volume lower for some reason.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] KinoCode:
Bluetooth Stack

Can you tell me which bluetooth stack you are using? I think the TP2 stock ROM comes with the Widcomm stack by default. Any thoughts on using the MS bluetooth stack?

Has anyone tested their bluetooth headphones (A2DP) with this ROM? What about car kits?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
The stock stack has given me great performance for my car kit. When I had my Fuze on the MS stack, the numbers and information wouldnt upload to it anymore.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] snl702:
Re: You Tube

(I'm using the TP2 for T-Mo USA, and my You Tube won't load at all, any Fixes or cabbs. It was working then a day ago gone. Tried running with my data plan and wifi, but still not working.)

(What have you installed? That might help me track it.

FYI is wont work right over wifi. Hasnt on any device ive ever had.)

The only thing i added to my phone was SPBMobileShell.3.5build.9666.cab

I havent' downloaded anything else.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
The stock tilt 2 stack

No plans to change it. Swapping stacks typically causes BT issues.

OK good info. Ill install mobile shell and see if it is conflicting :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
pmed u an update late me know. hope you like it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
Looking forward to Beta 3

Any ETA? Was hoping I could install it tomorrow... ;-)

I saw that there is a Fix for the Soft Key's in TF3D 2.5 - Apparently under 6.5.1 they are allways stuck on Action and somethign else.. Is that the case with this ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Got it and reviewing today :)

Prolly gonna be Saturday :) Im close to completeing all fixes and changing the build to the new 28xxx. Im hoping to flash it tomorrow and review for the day and take care of any issues tomorrow night. :)

Im not currently using 2.5. The 2.1 im using has no soft key issues.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
SMS Addresses ...

Has anyone else noticed when typing in an address that the proposed names don't necessarily follow the keystrokes? For example there's only one "Rocky" in my conatcts. When I go to send a new text message, I start typing in the address line and even though I type "Rocky", I get back a whole list of Rob's and Robert's and Robertson's and then finally scroll to get to Rocky. Same goes for "Jan" ... I type that in, but I get Johnston (last name with first name starting with C so this is why it might be first in the list), Jan, Jason, Jeff. Some of these just don't make sense and shouldn't be in the list.

I don't recall this happening previously. Not sure if it's new to the Tilt2 or this ROM as I don't remember from the delivered AT&T ROM. I know it wasn't the case with the various Arupp Fuze ROMS.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
I havent really seen any reason to upgrade to 2.5 either. A few more bugs, and not that many significant improvements at all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
What about the weather Clock? Kinda Cool? Twitter Tab and People Tab better?

Can you integrate any of that in 2.1?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
my 2.1 has the weather on the clock. Twitter is retarded. The people tab only has a few more contact options, that i wouldnt use. Does not seem like a good trade off for extra bugs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yeah 2.1 has the exact same clock. The only difference on home and IMO useful feature is the shortcuts. I agree on twitter. WHY? Why do I want ppl to know what im doing? If i really did id post it on facebook. Ive never maxed contacts on the contact tab so that dosnt excite me much.

From a developers standpoint, using 2.5 requires almost 30 packages from the leo. NONE of this was designed for the TP2 and therefore will always cause issues.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Jola66:
Any word on how the update is going?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Should have it done tomorrow.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
:) new rom2 mess with lol. great job. hey its working know check it out
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
Thanks for the feedback on 2.5... Stability is really the key for me so 2.1 it is..

Will grab this Tomorrow... First Flash with my Tilt 2..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
Frist flash you will be verry verry happy arup is a good cook and stability is his main goal
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
:) Great hope you like it .

Sorry to go off on my rant about twitter. I find twitter to be the most ridiculous thing in the entire world. Here have some useless text about what im currently doing. :p

Ruppy: is wondering why twitter is so stupid! LMAO
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
twitter

I am now in the bathroom.

now i am taking a dump first one out :eek:

second one out :eek:

now i am cleaning my arse

on to next piece of paper.

now i fell good;)

thas wha twitter is in my opinion Useless LOL:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
I just use twitter for updates on specifc web sites... I don't subscribe with friends, just items where I need information.. For me it's like a mini RSS feeed...

Just noticed that Facebook is still at 1.07 any chance in getting that updated to 1.1?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Hmmm yeah that shouldnt be a problem. Just need to track down that version and convert it :).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Ive already updated it :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
That explains alot.. I thought it was that the one I DL from Market Place would not overwright the one that came from ATT...

Interesting... Thanks for the info!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yeah no problem. I thought I had updated but when you said something I checked and it still said.07 lol. Few searches and I realized what was going on :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
hey Ryan have you tried out the att data network fix or has any one im trying out but not sure if its doing any thing some times it goes up but some it doesnt.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=576957&page=32
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
Good question.. Is this rom Enabled for HSPDA?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
yes well i get the H lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Thats been in since day 1. and BTW not sure why the cab I found is setting Dish to 0 but I wouldnt recommend it lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
explains why no changes in speed LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RemE:
I agree completely, so far the only twitter feed I watch is NRG and that's only because he's so busy cooking for so many platforms that he doesn't respond on his rom threads that I've seen. His tweets at least offer a peek at what's going on. So it is like a mini RSS feed and is helpful.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
RemE,

I noticed the rom you ran on your Kaiser... I ran the same rom for almost 18months...

Stable, nice... I only switched once TF3D got stable...

Aruppenthal.. We going to see this Rom today? ;-) Looking forward to spending the weekend trying it out...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RemE:
Yah it was a great rom and once loaded up and running I just used it! It (Kaiser) still is an excellent phone and with all the buttons it's actually more functional really. But the tilt2 is growing on me, all the 3d stuff is nice and it really is much more finger friendly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Its baking in the oven now. Just gotta do some testing
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
the wait is horrible!!!! horrible!!!! but do take you time i want a well cooked pizza :) Crispy better
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] RemE:
I'd like to float this request, only because you are so responsive and seem to be the most detail oriented. There are many who like the ability to re-direct all sound thru the BT Headset at times. The current methods that have worked in the past don't seem to work on Tilt-2.

There is a setting in Settings>Bluetooth> Settings>Advanced>Audio>Check radio box "Play system sounds on remote hands-free device" which does the job for now but...

The quest, can this toggle be brought out to a soft key somehow??? I'd love to use the keymapper to use the PTT button (short, long or double click) or even a prog shortcut, anything to make this feature easy to get to.

Any Chance that this is easy to do??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Should be possible with mortscript. Im guessing the radio toggle makes a reg change. I should have time this week to look into it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
uploading now
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
Waiting now :D :D :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
removed upload as i found a major bug while posting it

ill start over in the morning...........
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
killing me ryan LOL well at least i can go to sleep now later and good night
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Must have been some bug!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Uhh yeah had no dialer. :p

Apparently the ATT phonecanvas wont work without the video share stuff. I had to change phonecanvas to the HTC version. I think everything is now fixed. Im working on cooking the latest and i should be uploading :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
:eek:Well, unlike the iPhone, I prefer to use mine as a phone most of the time LOL.

Nice catching it before everyone downloaded it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
Dialer Ryan dont be silly we dont need no dialer :p thas y we have a home phone LOL
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
Looks like i have something to do after the kids go to bed. ;-)

I hope it's not to late tonight... Have to remmeber all that I have installed and customized..

Hey.. Is the PTT Button accessable on this ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] billypsyip:
i really would like to ur next rom will come with manila 2.5. ^^

i love ur coloruful rom, and the bar's icon should be the best touched one compare with the others' custom cooked ROM... at least in this forum ... in my opinion. :P
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Posting new version
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
I dont have any immediat eplans for 2.5. I may add a version with it at a later date. For now until I get a few versions for WVGA under my belt im going to stick with 2.1 :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
downloading will report my finds thanx for your hard work!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] snl702:
Will download when i get home from work :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
Downloading now ...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Do you mean as PTT? If so no. I had to remove it to use the HTC dialer. I may work on getting the ATT dialer back if theres enough interest.

If you mean is it mapable yes
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
I mean Mapable... PERFECT... Downloading Now..

Looking forward to seeing if the soft buttons on the bottom are better...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
OK, I am a bit rusty, but what does everyone use to backup SMS?

Took me a while to remember how to get into bootloader mode *blush*

Do we need to SOFT/HARD rest after the install?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yeah definitely hard reset after the install.

I never back up sms anymore but I used spb backup when I did.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
Can you tell me the Keys for Hard Reset?

Never Mind...

Power OFF

PRESS AND HOLD SEND and END KEY

Press Power Key..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] venelar:
seeing as you used the htc dialer, will att users have issues answering calls?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Installed, setup, no issues (as always)

Will give it a good road trip Monday.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
Installed and up and running..

Only issue I found is that there is a scroll bar on the dialer... Masks some of the keys and buttons.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yup known issue. Should be fixable now that Ive changed to the HTC dialer :)

Ill see if I can cab fix it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
Nope not at all was able to answer call and make them jus looks diff thas all here are some screenies if any one wanz 2 know wha it looks like.

every thing seems good so FAR :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Check the ATT dialer package. They added some reg keys that I think are responsible for the faster answer and lack of caller id issues. I ported them over to the HTC dialer as well as the blue highlights.

@all

Next version will have cfc compressed manila. All I can say is FAST! im running it now and lemme tell ya its nice. I also got the BG for all tabs and weather on any wallpaper compressed to so everything should be great.

Side Note: If some people wanna test out the 5 bars tweak feel free to let me know thoughts. Id also like to know if it works on other networks. The bars still disappears occasionally so the issue is somewhere else on that. Im sure its something simple or I would have found it by now :/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kahibbi:
What I've noticed ....

Internet connection works straight away ... meaning wap.cingular is in the the medianet connections (good)

Ring volume seems to be back to normal ... meaning this build it is louder on my tilt2 than the previous beta2 (beta1 seemed to be fine)

One thing I'm noticing not working is the C-ApiSRO program that worked in all previous ROM versions. This program is for listening to XM (and Sirius). It says I'm connected (need user id and password), but it says "unable to load channel" when I select a particular station. Again, this was never an issue with previous versions (even going back to the Fuze).

So far, so good!!!! Way to go Bryan!

EDIT: The icons are awesome!!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] seniorstew:
would you please add DRM (Napster to Go) support? Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
I have that ill check it out. Its possible they changed the streams again and the app will need a update. Cant think of any other reason it wont stream. Make sure you run the disable proxy in toold. Cant remember if I turned it off by default.

Ill see if i can add the DRM by cab I leave it out because it known to cause ringtone issues on 6.5.1 for some people.

@all

Now that things are looking pretty stable. Whats on the menu? What apps NEED added out of the box. (Be realistic :p) and what functionality do we not have? Time to tweak and optimize now :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Yup its the player. XM.Sirius changed the streams and broke all players. Not gonna work unless they update the app :/ Thread over at PPCgeeks is full of posts about it.

@ALL

Heres the fix for dialer scrollbar thanks to Todd aka NATF
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
I think the ROM comes loaded with all of the basic goodies. Everything else people can install themselves. Your ROMs have always been very well built, and stable which allows people to cutomize it how they wish.

I am excited about the compressed version. Anything faster than what you have already delivered is a bonus. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] thesilentnight:
Task Bar

Just flashed this rom over from NRG's rom...can someone tell me where can i find the task bar? Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] jank0023:
Can't wait for the next release. I almost flashed your current one but when you said you were making some final updates with the compressed Manila figured I'd just flash than. Sounds like you've worked all the kinks out. Let us know when you have a timeline on the next release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] srsaleenstang:
if ur talking about the task manger up in the uper right of the screen it cannot be used in this ROM or all roms that have the start menu on the bottom. But there are other task managers or you can bind it 2 a key.

go here its discussed here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=576957&page=29
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Not sure I follow.

I have it done :) Just waiting to see if anyone has any bugs before I toss another release out :) If no bugs are posted by tonight Ill upload it. The only difference is a faster manila :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sphinx88:
I have had an issue this afternoon following a Soft - Reset. I ran fine until lunch today and I noticed that Vocie command would no longer display the contact, made all the sounds, and then nothing. I also noticed that the phone was not recording missed or placed calls.

After soft-reset, the phone would not work at all. TF3D was also crashing each time I tried to access an SMS....

I think I am going back to a stock from for now.. Let this one cook a bit befoe I return...

If you want something more specific about the erros, please let me know and I will do my best to get them for you..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
I use the showcase task manager, which works quite well, but, it will superimpose on the task bar clock. To me, it isn't a big deal. I'd rather have access to the task manager :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
So if a faster Manila is all that is in the next version, those of us that don't use manila won't benefit from the next release?

So far, no issues with this one, other than the signal bars come and go for some odd reason.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] eknutson:
Light version (no TF3D or Titanium)? Some of us use neither ;)

~Eric
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Depends if any bugs are found ;)

Yeah thats the only bug Ive found. Rather annoying though. Im hunting it so hopefully I can track the issue. Its a simple graphic problem. I thought it was a bad dll but I have ruled that out now.

Maybe a no tf3d version. Never good to remove titanium. :)

Only reason I dont cook it in is it causes mail issues.

Havent seen anything like that. Most importantly what have you installed?

What do you mean voice command would no longer display the contact? Not sure I understand.

My call log is working perfectly.

and yeah any details you have would be appreciated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] p51d007:
Hummm...I must have missed that one? What mail issues is it causing?

I get all my IMAP email without any problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
It causes mail and messaging to slow down and occasionally freeze.