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[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jdubdieslo:
so what sizes do the partitions need to be to run these hero roms? i really wanted a hero but i found out it was only cdma ( i think is the name) and not the sim card one.. i would only be going from tmobile to at&t.. tmobile preffered but since i work for at&t currently i just unlocked it and went with edge since i only pay 50 bucks for unlimited everything with a 1000 mins vs paying just about 100$ after taxes for unlimited everything with tmobile..

anyways back to the subject. what sizes do the part's need to be to run the hero roms smooth. and what are some good hero roms to try? also whats the deal with the class 6 sd card what does that mean? and what is the preffered brand sd card root users would want?

thanks...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jdubdieslo:
another new question.. swappiness??? what is that? im sure is a setting you can adjust for you linux-swap but what exactly does it adjust and how would you adjust it? thanks..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] tazz9690:
You basically had it right about what you said about parted. Start is where the partition starts on your memory card and End is where the partition ends and then it will show the size of the entire partition.

For hero, you are going to want to have a linux swap partition of about 128mb so you can experiment with different swap sizes because every phone acts differently with different ROM's. This way, using the swapper app, you can choose different swap sizes that you want, no matter how big your swap partition is. Ext size is basically your preference, I usually have 500mb of ext, and fat32 is just what is left on my memory card.

Memory cards have different speed ratings. Class 6 is the fastest that you can get. This means that it writes onto the memory card faster than a class 4 memory card would and even faster than the stock 4gb, class 2 card that comes with the mytouch. A class 6 is highly recommended because since swapper basically writes onto your memory card to access extra memory that it needs, if you have anything less than class 6, it will not be as snappy and possibly not run as smoothly. It also lets your apps load quicker if you have apps2sd.

Oh, and swappiness can be adjusted through the swapper app as well. That app will become your greatest friend for Hero ROM's, trust me.

I personally have 15.4GB of fat32, 500mb of ext3, and 202mb of linux-swap.

If you are going to try a Hero ROM, may I suggest try Qtek's Hero 1.8? I have tried a lot of Hero's on both the sapphire and dream forums. That is by far the best hero ROM I have ever tried as far as speed, smoothness, and stability goes. He knows his stuff. I run 128 mb swap and a 80 swappiness.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jdubdieslo:
cool. i need to go cop me a class 6 sd card now :) any name brand sd cards that are preffered? or they are all basicly the same?

ok i have my swappiness at 80 with 128mb.. in the advanced preferences do i want to check use swap partition? and the swap partition is set to /dev/block/mmcblk0p3.. right? under swap fine tuning do i want a check next to recreat swap file? and a check next reformat swap> also what is busybox location/command? thanks. also do i need to click on? or off at any time on that program?

Any links to that hero rom? id like to try it out..
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] tazz9690:
Personally, I have a Transcend sd card. If you look for it on Newegg.com which is where I bought my 16 gig from, there is a 8 gb for $18 and free shipping. At least it was when I bought it. That was back in september. Some people have had bad luck with cheaper class 6 cards. I just chose Transcend because I knew it was a good name. I would go with the 8 gig for now because it's only $20, which is why I got it. Or you can also go crazy like I did and buy a 16 gig as well, but that one cost my $75.

Yes, you want to check use swap partition in the advanced preferences. Don't mess with the place where the swap partition goes because it is already right to begin with. In the swap fine tuning, leave them both checked. I am not really sure what busybox location/command are. I have never messed with them. You can probably search around and find that answer. Once you have all that set up, then you click swap on and don't exit it out of the the app until it says "All Done!" You also want to make sure that you have checked "run swapper at startup"

Here is the link to Qtek's 1.8 Hero http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J7OWUILE
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jdubdieslo:
cool. thanks. i will be ordering a new sd card very soon :). so with this rom back up nandroid.. wipe. wipe sd ext 3;wipe sd dalvik;repair file system;fix apk? then apply choose zip and use the new rom? is that the right order? and since i am wiping the ext 3 my apps will not be there. i will have to manually install them again? since droid swap isnt there would that be a issue for the rom?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] tazz9690:
you don't need to do a nandroid backup because since you are wiping your sd from all your apps, doing a nandroid restore will not put it back to how it once was because your missing key components that were once stored on your sd. You also do not need to fix apk since you will not have any to fix because your sd will be wiped. Yes, you will have to install them again. You can also backup your apps by downloading backup for root users. Once you flash your new rom, you can then get them all back through that app, once you download it again.

I don't use droidswap. I use swapper for root users because I don't even have to mess with busy box with that one. You will not have an issue because it's not on the rom. As soon as it flashes, and you went through the setup, go into the market and download swapper from it. Setup swapper like I had told you before, and restart the phone. Then you can go through and finish setting up your phone to your liking.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jdubdieslo:
ok so i see the difference in the swapper vs droid swap. ill stick with the swapper too.. none of em fail on the swapper vs droid swapper would say failed on some; also i downloaded that rom but it was only like 32.21 KB. it downloaded with in seconds. that doesnt seem right for a rom? was that the correct link? just downloaded back up for root.. saves time.. that will work with both roms?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] tazz9690:
Here is a link from his thread. Try it there. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=572948

Backup for root user will work on both ROM's.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roadrunnerx7:
my phone is messed up. this is what i HAD:

cyanogen 4.1.9999 and using handcent sms. everythnig worked fine in terms of my sms. got my messages on time, in order, and all of mine would go through fine.

NOW i have:

cyanogen 4.2.1 and still using handcent. now my messages are random. sometimes it works, sometime i plain never get them. sometimes mine go through, sometimes they just get stuck in "sending". then other times ill get a message but hours later. and even ill get like 3 messages at once hours later, and they wont even be in the correct order!

now im not entirely sure what happened here. but i analysed everything and its seems to me that the problem might be the rom. because its just abuot the only thing that has changed from when it used to work. i did not wipe as cyanogen himself said it was not nessacery. i did do the fix permissions and fix file systems. didnt really help. but i have a few questions:

is anyone else having sms issues after updating?

OR is anyone else in the los angeles area having sms issues?

because ive also noticed that my 3g has gotten real crappy lately.

what could the problem be and what would you guys advise? please help. if its because tmobile is upgrading to that 7.2mbps thing then okay! lol if not then wtf? im not paying $70 a month for this garbage. i strongly think its tmobile but who knows. oh wait, YOU knows :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tvguyofnature:
I'm having the same issues on this ROM, I reflash and typically SMS works for a day or two and then totally ****s up.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daedae19ave:
same here and im on the 4.2.5 ....
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djcalamari:
I had same problem with Handcent and CM, reverted to Chomp and finally just use the "stock" sms app, it made the problem better but I am missing texts once and a while. :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tazz9690:
that's strange. I am not having this problem at all with handcent. I have been using it with all my cyanogens and I am currently running 4.2.5 and have used all his previous ones without this problem
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Proxin:
This is so annoying! Cyanogenmod shouldn't be considered "stable" when there are stupid bugs like this. It's so embarrassing to ask people to resend their texts. Try bragging about the Android OS/Cyanogenmod to them after that.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djcalamari:
I have a theory, only a theory mind you... and I am only a noob. But it seems like the missing texts problem on my phone is often related to the fact I am streaming audio via bluetooth to my hands free sytem while driving.

If I send texts to myself via Google voice while listening to music or Beyondpod, it is extremely unlike to reach me, but if I try again with music stopped I receive texts much more frequently. Anyone having this experience?

Or does anyone want to test this theory out?

Also would moving my notification sounds to system (currently on SD, since CM didn't include them) possibly help?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtrplr71:
just clear the cache in sms. AND flash the new ROM.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kusotare:
The problem with that sentiment is that it's not the rom. The information you guys are giving is extremely limited. djcalamari took it a step in the right direction by letting us know what other things he was doing when the messages were missed. Theres also about a hundred other factors that could be causing your texting woes. I, for one, have never had any problems with texting on any version of CM, even the experimental builds. I can also vouch for tons of people who havent either.

Have you tried wiping and then reflashing? Have you tried formatting your ext partition? Have you tried clearing app data? Have you contacted your provider to make sure theres not a problem related to your sim? Cause you might want to try some of those things before blaming the developer for problems that only a very small number of people seem to be having.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djcalamari:
I am going to wipe and reflash, been trying to avoid doing this but the problem warrants it. Backing up apps right now via Astro.

Question: If I wipe ext, can I just copy the files (i.e my apps)...wipe, then paste them back with no ill effects? What would be the best way to do this using a windows pc? A live cd of linux, or is there some easier way?

Hopefully it wont come to that, though. I don't know if I really want to wipe the ext, seems risky? I know these are noob questions, sorry in advance.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kusotare:
They're not noob questions, dont sweat it. At least you're being proactive. Heres what I would recommend you do:

make sure you have Amon_RA's 1.3.2 recovery installed. Once you do, boot to recovery, go to the console, type "utility" at the prompt and select the option to back up your apps to your FAT partition. Once it finishes, go back to the recovery menu, mount the sd card to your computer from the menu, and make a complete backup of your fat partition to your computer. After that, unmount the card and triple partition your card. This ensures that all of the data and symlinks get erased and the card is fresh. Once you do that, throw everything back on the card, follow the initial steps above (console->utility) and select the restore apps to ext option.

that takes care of your SD card. after thats all done (shouldnt take more than 5 minutes to do all that), perform a system wipe and then reflash the latest CM. reboot and you're all set.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xManMythLegend:
My response to the HERO mms/sms thread...

Too bad the damn search function is limited to 4 characters.

Theres a laundry list of Roms with SMS/MMS issues. Most have unique fixes.

Best advice is to wipe , reformat your SD card , and start from scratch with said ROM. That way you eliminate most of the "problem is on your end" situations.

Too many roms get knocked out of wack for no apparent reason. Its almost impossible to search for a solution with a 4 character limit.

Ive had MMS issues with nearly every ROM Ive tried. Much as I love the performance had to move away from Cyan for now because my MMS issues were persistent with those ROMS.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bladepbc:
i was haveing this same problem when i was running his roms so i called tmo and they said it was due to tower problems that ws 9 months ago ive since moved about 8-12 miles east of where i lived chaged roms but still use handcent....tmo and still sayin tower problems but " new towers will be built in roughly 120 days" from what tmo says i dont think its his builds its prolly tmo ...

by the way i live in wpb fl far far far away from ca but i was having a simialr issues so i figured id let ya kno oh yea and by calling and *****ing to tmo about it i got 10- 15 off my bill for 3 months ...it was to the point i was calling everyday submiting trouble tickets would ya kno it as soon as i hung up the reps were clearing out the problems:confused: ...go figure...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djcalamari:
Thanks for the good advice. I am going to do this right now, that recovery image sounds pretty cool, lots of useful features! I hope this relieves my SMS issues after all is said and done, because other than this one issue, I love the rom!

If it doesn't, I may have to drop it, or my textaholic girlfriend may drop me!:eek:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] karni64:
wohh dude thats weird a year from the day you posted this and my phone starts having this same exact problem out of nowhere...

HTC hero Cyanogen v6.0
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] curleyfrei:
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[G1 General] marty22877:
so if you're like me you've had your g1 for almost a year now and if you're like me it's still in good condition, but not new. what android phone are you going to go to after this? i havent heard of any new android phones coming to t-mobile
[G1 General] jad011:
the only other "decent" android phone that T-Mobile has is the mytouch 3g but personally i think that it is a step down, i am considering a switch to Verizon because of the Droid
[G1 General] palosjr:
you can buy a brand new unlocked HTC Tattoo for 379
[G1 General] Vermithrax:
I thought it would be different this time... T-Mobile paves the way with Android... and is looking to be left in the dust by every other carrier... Again... Still waiting on 3G too... O wait, we do have "Project Dark"... Sigh...

I will be giving them until my contract is up... I hope Cyanogen and the other Devs can help ease some of the pain...

L8r
[G1 General] M9x3mos:
Personally I think the droid is more goofy looking the the G1 was. I really like my mytouch just wish it had a keyboard. If you are all up in arms about android 2.0 stock MT3G will get it and I am sure the devs here will make sure the G1 gets it as well. Only device that I really wish T-Mo would have gotten was the Sprint HTC Hero phone. That one is awsome, again just needs a keyboard. I am sure there will be more just takes time. And I don't get 3g either but really don't need it edge works good enough for what I want to do while I am out and I can sacrifie full 3g coverage for the difference in cost thank you
[G1 General] jordanjay29:
I won't be leaving the Dream until there's a decent phone out there with a keyboard. The Sholes/Droid's keyboard may work, but we're still hurting for a 5-row keyboard. Samsung's Moment has the least pain (with a dedicated row for numbers) but it's on Sprint's network. I left Sprint for greener pastures and I have no intent to return.

I'd like to see HTC make another Android phone with a keyboard, and a higher processor. And if they could take a hint from Samsung and include x gigs of internal space, that would be wonderful. A camera flash would help as well, but I won't hold my breath for that, not out of HTC anyway.

As for service, T-Mobile's 3G network is working well here in Minnesota (Twin Cities), so I have no complaints.
[G1 General] raptoro07:
Evidently the droid with be using the same processor as the dream, not the snapdragon as rumored. In the end it will not be much better. More hype than anything
[G1 General] abqandrea:
So not the 550mhz thing that's mentioned in the PCWorld review? What's your source?

Bummer, I'm having the same existential questions about my G1.
[G1 General] grlddawkin:
tp2 android

i've said it before and i'll say it again, the tp2 with android with space, flash, 2.0 and all droid would be perfect. bigger screen, keyboard, tilt and made by htc.
[G1 General] raptoro07:
Yeah, sorry. It was rumored the droid would run the 1Ghz Snapdragon. It will be the Qualcomm 550mhz. This is from boygeniusreport.
[G1 General] sadico:
has any one took a look at the Nokia N900

Feature: 5+ Megapixel Camera, A2DP, Bluetooth, Calendar, Camera, Candy Bar Form, Edge, Email Client, FM Radio, GPS / Location, High-Speed Data GPRS, Megapixel Camera, Memory Card Slot, MP3, Qwerty Keyboard, Speaker Phone, Touch Screen, Video Capture, Video Clip, Voice Dialing, Wi-Fi

At the heart of this mobile computer is its powerful 600 MHz processor and up to 1GB of application memory. The superscalar ARM processor delivers exceptional power and enables you to run all your applications quickly, smoothly, and simultaneously.

* ARM Cortex - A8 superscalar microprocessor core running at 600 MHz

* Up to 1 GB of application memory (256 MB RAM, 768 MB virtual memory)

* Linux-based operating system

* 3D graphics accelerator with OpenGL ES 2.0 support

The built-in 32 GB storage is big enough to store up to 7,000 of your favourite songs or 40 hours of DVD-quality video. And with an external microSD card you can expand the storage to up to 48 GB.

* 32 GB internal storage

* Expandable to up to 48 GB with an external microSD card

For the first time get high-speed broadband that’s as fast as an internet connection at home. Enjoy rich interactive content across the web and view pages the way they should be seen with stunning full-screen browsing.

* 3.5G and WLAN connectivity

* Quadband GSM with GPRS and EDGE

* Data transfers over a cellular network 10/2Mbps

* Data transfers over Wi-Fi 54Mbps

* Flash 9.4 support

* Full-screen browsing

Capture vivid images and DVD-quality widescreen video with the integrated 5-megapixel camera. The Carl Zeiss optical lens brings added clarity, while the dual LED flash lets you take great pictures day or night.

* 5-megapixel digital camera

* Carl Zeiss optical lens

* Dual LED flash

* 800 × 480 resolution video recording

Powerful hardware packed into a sleek, compact design. The Nokia N900 mobile computer features a sharp 800 x 480 touch-screen display and a fully integrated QWERTY keyboard.

* Touch-sensitive screen

* 3.5” WVGA display

* 800 × 480 resolution

* Tactile and onscreen QWERTY keyboards

* Removable battery

Find your position quickly and accurately with the built-in Assisted-GPS receiver. The Nokia N900 works seamlessly with Ovi Maps to give you the quickest available route as you navigate from A to B.

* Assisted-GPS receiver

* Ovi Maps pre-installed :cool:
[G1 General] otto888:
Put android on that and I might buy it.

I think I'll try to switch to the Droid(if there's a GSM version....) or whaterver Android phone will have a snapdragon(or better....is there one better yet?) in it.....
[G1 General] JackD3ath:
Wow, that Nokia N900 looks really nice! Maemo = linux distro or Nokia creation?
[G1 General] athflying:
That's simply not true. A 2 second Google search and they clearly have different processors.

I am seriously considering this phone. I have to have a keyboard, I hate not having a 3.5mm jack, and the G1 was never "speedy" to begin with. With Cyanaogen Rom's, it certainly helps, but I would love some better hardware. I like the idea of Verizon simply for better coverage and faster 3g or 4g web, but I here nothing about complaints as far as customer service. I would stick with T-Mobile if some phones that interested me were at least in the works, but every HTC phone has something that keeps me from buying it (no keyboard, no 3.5mm jack, etc).

I love the large display, still has a keyboard without being bulky, faster and more memory, metal case, 3.5 mm audio, what is not to love??
[G1 General] JanetPanic:
The first Verizon Droid phone is using an OMAP3430 processor, which is a Cortex A8 based ARM.

The G1 Uses the Qualcomm 7201 chipset, which has a ARM11 based processor.

The A8 and ARM11 are very different processors with the A8 being significantly more powerful. I do not know how well this will be reflected in the end products, but from a processor standpoint they are at least a generation apart. Anandtech had an article a few months ago if you really are interested in the differences.

EDIT: http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3595&p=6

should give you an idea. The iPhone 3G is an ARM11 and the 3GS is a cortex A8.

EDIT2: To sort of make this post on topic. I am waiting for a new phone with T-Mo 3g, A8 or better processor, and physical keyboard. Once a new phone comes out with all three I will jump ship. A T-Mo version of the droid would work for me.
[G1 General] Wisefire:
Personally I'm waiting for my contract to end, I don't have the extra cash to spend on dropping my 2 year agreement. When it is up, I may switch to Verizon considering their service, as well as the fact that they are getting the HTC Dragon, with the 1Ghz Snapdragon processor.
[G1 General] phatmanxxl:
Don't forget how VZW likes to seriously lock down and cripple their os and fill the phones with their bloatware. that's the main reason I don't like their phones, and not to mention they got the most expenaive plans in comparison. I hope at@t will pick up some nice and rootable android phones that I can unlock and use. at@t always gets good phones too.
[G1 General] uansari1:
Exactly... totally different processors. And this is pure rumor at this point, but the Sholes could be coming to T-mobile in a GSM version after Verizon's been able to have exclusivity for a month or so... Here's the story from T-monew.com...

http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/please-let-this-be-real/

Btw, since someone mentioned the N900, I was REALLY excited about it when I first saw the promo video MONTHS ago. But Nokia and T-mo are screwing up it's introduction big time. They're simply waiting too long to release it, as there are other phones that I think will be better on market by the time it comes out. Seriously, resistive touchscreen on the N900 vs something like the Moto Droid? I'll take the Droid. Plus Nokia's already working on Maemo6, which will probably come out next year. It seems Nokia is inept at this point...
[G1 General] JanetPanic:
I would echo the URL. Please let this be real. It would be my first non-HTC phone in almost 5 years but I have not seen anything in the HTC pipeline that meets what I want.

As far as the N900 is concerned it is available on the NokiaUSA site and has been confirmed to work with the T-Mo 3g. It just appears that T-Mo is not picking it up for distribution through thier channels.
[G1 General] Wii60:
The Samsung Behold 2 has been confirmed to have a 800 Mhz processor. No word on the architecture though. Rumors abound that Tegra is involved, but I'm not convinced.

Anyways, that's a Nov 18 release date and a T-Mo exclusive. So if you can wait 2 weeks, you'll have one slick android device.
[G1 General] jordanjay29:
Minus a keyboard, though.
[G1 General] marty22877:
exacttly, gotta have a keyboard