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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Nosrahc:
Can I install the HTC-CIME input method on my kaiser?

It's surprise me that the Android ion run on my kaiser so fast and stable. The past couple of weeks I prefer like the android system more than WM.

It's pity that I must input traditional Chinese on my machine. I can't use PinYin method. Though I found a "ZhuYinIMESettings.apk" on web but it still not smoothy and so slow when I input Chinese word, most importantly, It's no vibrate function when I press key. I also found another "ZhuYin" method which made from HTC Hero called "HTC-CIME". The downloaded zip file include META-INF and system folder.

It seems some system file must be pushed to android system folder.

I try to connect my android kaiser to my pc and install windows USB driver for it then use adb command try to push those system file into machine but it didn't work.(adb devices->list of attached device.. it appear "? device"

then adb remount->appear "some unknown error?")

How can I install the HTC-CIME Chinese input method on my android kaiser? and when I reset the machine it still has the CIME in system. Can someone help me? Because I love this machine and I love use android...

Btw, forgive my poor English....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Keland44:
nice i'm lookin forward to checking this out what is everybody using to partition your SD card i see a few people are using gparted any other suggestions that will do it right system with out rebooting the system
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
How to make a system file read and write

This is a little out of the pre-build area but here it is:

[Thanks to enatefox on this, without his program or help I would have never figured this out]

When trying to mount or remount a system file (normally to be able to edit files in the /system folders) you need an ext2 system file not an sqsh or img file; the sqsh and img files are read only, so you cannot remount it. Here is an easy way. I know it looks like a lot but trust me it works 100%:

1. Download enatefox's stay safe app (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581429)

2. Pleace a copy of your current system.sqsh or system.img in the "update" folder

..........a. Since all you need to do is create an ext2 image and not backup your apps, this works great

3. In Android, run the stay safe app. (it takes 5-10 minutes to run but just keep hitting wait when it tries to FC until it says Finished!)

..........a. It will create a Newsystem.ext2 on your storage card

4. Reboot phone into windows mobile

5. Remove/rename your old system.sqsh and data.img files (I always move them to a new folder for backup)

6. Rename the Newsystem.ext2 to system.ext2

7. Run Android; it will start with a new and fresh install, and create a new data file

8. In ADB shell or Terminal type the following:

su
mouont -o remount,rw /system

(now use the cp or push commands to copy over the files)

9. When you are done remeber to change it back to write only

mouont -o remount,ro /system

I was able to use this method to install the "hacked" google 3.2.1 navigation and the voice seacrh and libspeeck.so files to a locked image.[/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] heridfel:
Hi all, I set this up on my phone today and after some trouble was able to get most everything working, however I still have a sms issue. I am able to recieve SMS msgs fine, but when I try to send one out, it just gives me an error that it wasn't sent (but doesn't give an explanation of the error at all!). I tried searching through this topic and the forums and there were similar issues but could not find any sections that pertained to the Donut vs for android. I'm using the HTC Tilt 8925 phone, my carrier is ATT. Data, calls, recieving texts, camera, keyboard, etc. all work fine though. Any help would be appreciated (even pointing me to the right thread, I don't mind reading, just couldn't find anything!)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Nosrahc:
The GPS issue? need start and luck the GPS on WM?

By j101399j's help, I finally have done the input method of HTC's Chinese input successfully. Until now, Wifi, 3G networks, USB connection and GPS that all works fine for the ION version on Kaiser. It become my main system for daily using.

but I need start and lock the GPS on WM system and then boost into android and the GPS function normally. It's for long time. Can anybody do the GPS work by any method boost into our android directly without lock GPS on WM?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
I'm running now ION now. It works fast, but I have two main issues (beyond GPS and BT not working):

- Marketplace not working over wifi (only through data connection)

- when 50% of battery, I tried to run Google Maps, and suddenly after extit (after about 5 minutes) my battery was only 3-4%....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ReggieA86:
I had this same problem and so have others. The reason your experiencing this problem is because it was originally developed for the htc vogue. All you need to do is change your default.txt file. You need to change the htcvogue.panel_type=2 to htckaiser.panel_type=2.

Good luck
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
Thanks for the answer. I have set "board-htckaiser.panel_type=2". Maybe I missed that change, that it should be "htckaiser.panel_type=2". I will check this out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
I'm using this default.txt right now

The only weird thing is when I slide the keyboard, it goes landscape mode to the wrong side D:! and I get an upside down screen.

What am I doing wrong?

--EDIT--

Now it got frozen when making a call D:!

And wifi works when it wants to -_-
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] czarnas:
Can any1 post best SD card config for 4GB? Actually i have 2GB as Fat, 1GB as ext2, and 2x 512 MB as linuxswap.

Which config will be best for using ext2 and swap/compcache?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] heridfel:
so, may I ask again if anyone knows a fix for this rom to be able to SEND text messages on the Donut version? I can recieve text messages, I can make calls, I get email, twitter updates, but not able to send text messages. Doesn't make sense! Again, any help would be greatly appreciated. The camera doesn't work either but I'm not sure if that would be related.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Not sure what the issue is; I use this rom and have no issues with text messages, both incoming and outgoing. Try different zImage and rootfs.img files, see what happens.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Dude, do you know something that could be useful to solve my wifi problems?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Same thing; I am using the latest zImage and rootfs.img and WiFi works great, but that is different between different people; I don't hink we all have the same WiFi cards or something. Sorry not much more help; have you tried other builds?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
What you mean by "other builds"? Like full 1.5?

Cause I'm using Android like this:

HTC Kaiser + Full 1.6 Donut Build + zImage 10/23

And my wifi network works as expected on Windows Mobile.

I've tried two ways with it.

1.- Starting haret already connected to my network under WM. That way, Android boots connected.

2.- Starting haret not connected, then adding my network manually.

Now, in any of those ways it says that I'm connected, but nothing that needs some kind of connection does work. Or if it does, it's just a magical thing D:

Browser, mail, market, etc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Try a 1.5 build and see if that works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roberto188:
No Sound

I tried Hero, Ion, and Donut builds. All run fairly well. Only problem is...I have NO sound. No ringer...no sound when I play an MP3, and my callers cannot hear me. Any suggestions?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Indigova.Zare:
What about radio?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roberto188:
Radio?

Can you elaborate on what you mean? Radio?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Which radio is your phone flashed with? Also make sure you are using the current base files (and most currnet zImage and rootfs files); along with a correct default.txt file.

I am using the 1.70.19.09 kaiser radio; and attached is my default.txt file; try that 1st
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roberto188:
Radio

Ok that must be the problem...my radio version I believe is 1.27.14.09. I will reflash my phone with something newer. Thanks! Also, I noticed that when i use a 2GB card android runs really fast, but when i use an 8gb..it goes slow...I haven't partitioned the 8gb....would partitioning the 8Gb fat32/ext2/ext2 make it work faster?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I don't think so; however I have never tried the fat32/ext2/ext2 partitioning. However I have a 2,4 & 8GB cards and android runs the same on all. Double check the classs of the card. A class 4 card will run twice as fast as a class 2. All 3 of my cards are class 6.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roberto188:
class 6

Mine's a class 6. I see that your board type in the default.txt is a vogue not a kaiser. I tried that..and it ran alot faster for some reason...not quite sure why....but it did.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roberto188:
Which Windows Mo Version

I've noticed that people seem to be getting different results with different rom versions and different windows verisions. Any insight on to the most compatible...one that causes least errors with the android ports? Someone had posted their's but it was a emobile branded rom from japan. No thanx.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I bounce between -G- DK 10 nakid and final. They are very fast and when I run Android 1.5 or 1.6 I get very good speed. I have tried a few others, but with these 2 Android seems to be the fastest; you can find his roms here

http://www.4shared.com/dir/8274856/c57f8e60/Garmin_ROOM.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
I've always run mbarvian's Solace 3.1 with the latest radio. Android has always run well for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roberto188:
Market Place

Does anyone know why I can't access like 70% of the apps on the android market place when i search the market place. I KNOW there is a pandora app, but why when i search does it not come up? Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Which market are you using? 1.5 or 1.6
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roberto188:
1.6

I have whatever came with the 1.6 Donut Rom. So i guess 1.6. I have my settings showing that I'm in the US. So I don't think it's a region issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Did you try market enabler
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roberto188:
Tried

I tried market enabler with 320x480 res. No dice on finding pandora...or alot of other apps listed on the marketplace website. Not quite sure what the deal is. anyone else have success finding pandora or 10001 cocktails in the market place?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] brugazz:
Feedback

Hello!!!

I did try them all and I was pleased and amazed by innovation that android represents to the mobile world!!

After a few months using my HTC tytn II (kaiser) with the android vesions at the firts page, and some minor issues in-between, I went out and bougth an HTC Magic (mytouch 3G)!!!

So, thank you for your work and knowledge, it did help me make the right choice.

PS:I tried to donate but had some issues with my paypal account and just gave up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
It Seems that the Solace 3.1 always is best underground for every build... All the builds i have try are working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joenie:
update?

Hi all,

I believe this is a good threat, but, should it not be updated in the first post by adding the new Eclair stuff to it? So that we can centralise the Android-stuff a bit:).

kind regards,

Joenie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Here is a working version of Eclare. It is not the newest beta, but it works really, really well. Please note that bluetooth is still not working and gps is iffy; check out this forum for a possible gps fix (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=600154)

NOTE: You must remove or rename all files, and use these instead. The system file (and once you run harnet) and the data.img file will be in the /sdcard/android folder, they are no longer on the /sdcard. Also, I know the user file is not needed in all 3 locations but for some reason if it is not in all 3 locations, harnet crashes at times.

This is a beta, so it can crash, but eclare is so cool and has way better animations, I wanted to post it.

I do not have a mediafire account, so I do not know how long this will be up. If someone can reload it, that would be great.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ohk3jxgznul/eclare.zip​
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idumych:
Very nice build! I've been using it since last night and it's quite fast. However, there is no camera app! Anyone know of a good replacement for the camera app?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jmhalder:
its spelled haret, more specifically HaRET, but definitely not harnet, i'm only saying this because its not a single time typo, its happened about 9 times, pet peeve i guess.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
FxCamera is a free camera app and very easy to use. I recommend that one

Opps, I also just noticed I also keep typing roofts and not rootfs, thankyou for pointing that out, I would have never noticed.

[edit] There I went back and fixed all the "harnet"'s I could find. It is annoying when there are spelling errors like that, especially since HaRET and Android is very picky on spelling and capital letters.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idumych:
Thanks j! One more question, out of curiosity: are you using a partitioned card or just fat? With other builds they tended to die a slow painful death if I didn't use partitions. Right now I have a 4 gig card with a 500mb fat32 partition and the rest is split between two ext3 partitions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idumych:
fxcamera is not working for me, when taking a picture all I see is white. If I try taking a picture, it comes out as a scene from a comic book (wtf)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I use a 4gb Fat32 card, I gave away my others, so I just have this one and it only has 1 partition

And as for the camera, there is another app, I can't remeber, but I'll look for it and let you know
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idumych:
I've tried other applications and they all show a white screen. It seems pretty clear to me that the camera driver is broken. Do you have a kaiser j?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I have the tilt and just tried FxCamera and for some reason it keeps F.C.ing on me? To be honest, I can't remeber if I have really tried the camera in Eclare. I'll play with it and post what I find.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idumych:
Ugh, I hate this. It's like OSx86 all over again. I wish I had known that Rogers g1s work on AT&T before I bought this phone!

EDIT: J, I've been reading about, and it sounds like the camera is a known issue for all Eclair builds on Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I am so blind. (From where I got the system file); BTY there is a new system file and rootfs.img file available and it works great (check out http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5235095&postcount=359 for some screenshots)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=600154

What works:

Calls

Data

GPS

WiFi

Maps w/FULL Navigation

YouTube

Gmail

gtalk

Market

Contacts Sync

Native Exchange Support

Car Home

Not working:

****Camera****

Bluetooth

Full Sleep

'My Location' from cell tower location (doesn't work for any Kaiser build)

Exchange Calendar Sync *untested

Facebook Sync *untested

Telnet (use ConnectBot in local mode for a Terminal * Connectbot is FCing with the latest release, will fix ASAP)

Voice Dialer/Voice Search (fixed as soon as vilord rebuilds libaudio.so with dzo's source)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] idumych:
Thanks for the update j. Funny thing about the location: it worked for me on the ION cupcake build about ONCE. Damn accurate too.

How about voice search / dialling? Every rom I've used so far, regardless of android version, has ceased to have functioning phone calls whenever I try to use audio in for that and pretty much anything else other than calls.

Also, any luck with headphones? I have a splitter that has a headphone socket, usb socket, and headset socket in it, and I have never been able to get sound from that in android.

Oh yeah, one other thing that's been driving me nuts: on builds that support GPS, it's extremely annoying as i don't have GPS on my tilt, and it just causes a ton of glitches. Any way to purposely break GPS support? EDIT: Never mind, I'm stupid, I found a place to turn it off in settings.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
It has been a while since I was active on this board. But still sick of running WinMo I wanted to see how things have gotten along. I think the devs have done great work!

The problem is that there are to many file combinations that can be used so it's very nice to see this thread (maybe you could include http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=613049&page=4)

Is androidonhtc.com still updated? Seems like there are many threads and websites out there that try to do the same; create order in all this chaos
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DANIYIAL:
I have a Kaiser and was just wondering if the android system will run faster or more efficiently once it is booted from the internal memory instead from the SD Card?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
screen rotation fix

I know this is a bit late, but I just found this out and wanted to share. Another fix for the screen rotating the wrong way on the kaiser when you take out the keyboard (insted of using the 12/23 zImage) is to use 320X480X160 screen resolution. II have no idea why this fixes it, but it does.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MrKancho:
hey..

I tried a lot of different stuff now, but I still can't get it to work..

and I have to admit, I feel like a newb trying this stuff and not getting it to work..

so, I want to run Android, from the SD Card and keep my WinMob but when I start haret.exe, a Linux boot screen opens up and stops at some point, telling me:

(NOTE: the font size is really small, so I put the stuff I couldn't really read in Italics.. :D sorry about that..)

can anyone please please help me with this?

I really don't have a clue what to do now..

I tried MagicISO to open the rootfs.img but it won't open it..

or is there a decent release that I can just put on the SD of my Kaiser and run and it will work, without having to edit any files or stuff..?

I would really appreciate any help regarding this matter..

thanks to anyone who can help me..

peace..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Beackman:
As i can see, you need to put de file rottfs.img in the root of your sdcard, just copy and paste.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MrKancho:
thank you so much for your quick answer.. I really appreciate it..!

been there, done that.. didn't work..

but I just put a new version on my phone and now I can get past loading the system.img..

it tells me that no "system.img" is found on the device..

I hope I'm getting closer now.. :D

sorry, guys, if I'm making myself look like a complete newb, but I'm just new to this whole thing..

thx again for any help..

peace..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Create a folder called android on your storage card. Place ALL of your files in there (HaRET.exe, zImage (no extension), initrd.gz, default.txt or setup.txt, rootfs.img, system.img or system.sqsh, a folder called conf with all of the user.conf files) and try again. If you still get any errors, try re-downloading the files from a different location.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MrKancho:
thx man.. gonna try the ION and HERO build then.. I woulda picked the Donut build tho, cause it seems like, it's the most stable version with more funtions than the other releases..

is that true?

oh, and by the way, in none of the releases I downloaded was a "system.img".. that's what's odd about it..

is it in the ION and HERO release archives?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Wierd the system.img or system.sqsh or system.ext2 is the file that is the build; the rest are the same. The system file should be about 50-200mb in size; what file are you downloading?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Beackman:
Just do what j101399j said and if not work, just remove any files of the build including haret and reinstall everything again. i have this issue too in past and i have reinstalled all and works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxjoshuaaxx:
Anybody else have mic not working in call? I didn't see it listed on the not working section but it doesn't work. :/ I have ION on my Tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Did you try any voice search type app? If you did it can crash the mic
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxjoshuaaxx:
I think somebody did who was playing with my phone. Should create a new data.img?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Try rebooting the phone, if that does not fix it (test by calling and leaving yourself a voicemail) then yes you will need a new data.img :(

You may even go in and delete the VoiceSearck.apk, so that option no longer exists.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxjoshuaaxx:
I tried restarting. No mic still. New data.img now voice or sound, now. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
new data.img and still no sound or mic? I'm stumped, sorry
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxjoshuaaxx:
As am I. :/ I've tried other Android builds, as well, and it doesn't look like the mic is working. Could it be my phone? Mic works fine in Windows Mobile.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mnjm9b:
@xxjoshuaaxx,

what radio are you using?

are you using HaRET?

I have tried probably all builds at one point or another, from cupcake, Donut, as well as eclair.

as well as different install methods...started using HaRET with system.img and data.image on fat32 sdcard.

then Using HaRET with system and data on separate ext2 partitions on sdcard.

now I finally flashed NAND. being that polymod's eclair build has bluetooth as well as speaker phone working now. (Although, camera is still being worked on)

of all the different builds and different ways of doing them I have always had the sound working. (although sometimes it would break and I would have to reboot)

if it works in winmo then it probably isn't a hardware issue. and I also am using a tilt so whatever versions of android your using I am sure I tried and if I got it to install, sound always works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxjoshuaaxx:
I'm using what ever Radio came with the AT&T Tilt 8925 originally. :/ How do I check?

Yes I am using HaRET.

Edit: So I upgraded from 6.0 to 6.1 and everything works like a charm. I feel like an idiot :P I didn't think of that. So problem fixed. :D Thanks for those trying to help me.