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[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gurnted:
Are you formatting from windows, linux, osx, or the phone? You say "through the g1" but add "eject itself of the comp and then i remount it"

Does the G1 say damageded sd, or does it just not format leaving all your old files?

Is your phone rooted? If so, install RA-recovery-1.2.3 and try that. It has all the format options included. If not try a linux live cd such as ubuntu which includes gparted. Alright well qwerty3656 already suggested that. Guess I should have finished this post before going to fix some coffee :-)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Basket Lotioner:
Ubuntu for dummies? lol. You must have a disability if you cant use Ubuntu. Run GParted if thats the way you want to go, but doing it that way is over the top harder than it needs to be. I also would recommend you download and install the Amon RA Recovery Image.

In Terminal run:

su (Hit Enter and allow SU permission if you haven't already)

flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery-RA-dream-v1.2.3.img (Hit Enter)

reboot recovery (Hit Enter)

Then from the recovery menu choose repartition SD with just a Fat32 or repartition with a Fat32, Ext2, and Swap. You can then reboot :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jndd333:
Much agreed. I use RA's recovery image over cm1.4 for the quick (very quick) format options. I've used gparted with GNOME based Linux distros and it can be a headache, especially when it fails to format properly several times in a row :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sonikamd:
PuppyLinux Live

Puppy Linux Live is another great distro for doing these sort of things. Once you have it on cd it takes about 2 minutes to go through the boot process and no need to install to hdd(great if using someone elses pc). Use the partition manager, just remember to hit apply after EACH change to the sd partitions. Delete a partition(Hit apply) delete another partition(hit apply), create.....apply apply apply. I've had almost no problems using this method, hitting apply just speeds things up.

And yes I have Ubuntu as well, but for some reason i have issues from time to time with gParted as well. Puppy's also great as you can boot right from a jump drive, or usb-sd adapter(as long as your hardware supports it).
[G1 General] fmurillo92:
i would like to work on something like the android os or iphone os after college but am not sure what major it would require...any info would help...just there are so many majors that sound the same...
[General Questions and Answers] mike21pr:
Coming from winmo, i was fed up of coverups upon coverups hiding a OS with new versions of standard features and still having the native ones hidden in the background just to make it enjoyable....

Now.... since Android is completely open source, Is HTC's SenseUI a coverup only having the standard Android UI under the hood, or did HTC REWRITE the standard Android apps and replaced them with theirs????

From this i mean, is HTC's version of the Album, Music, Contacts, Browser etc. an add-on having the vanila versions hidden somewhere like they do with winmo and can be reverted to, or are they ACTUALLY the classic apps redone by HTC???

I really hope HTC rewrote the OS cuz it really works well together (somewhat of a HTC OS all together)
[General Questions and Answers] dwizzy130:
I believe Sense UI on Android is the same deal. Just an overlay with their own widgets.

dwizzy130
[General Questions and Answers] mike21pr:
thanx for the reply

anyway, isnt senseUI also include the dialer, album, browser, music, calendar, contacts and such???? thats what i want to know since you dont need to hack android to add widgets
[General Questions and Answers] dwizzy130:
It may be a dialer skin but the contacts and stuff are all part of the sense ui. Just like the WM version. There are different "layers" or levels of how deep you can go into the UI.

dwizzy130
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] htcclay:
Hi all,

First off I am no SPL genius and I don't know much but figured someone should start a thread to get clarity on the matter.:)

I have noticed that a lot of people have questions about their SPL...

I have noticed that there are lots of SPL threads but many are not that clear (From what I have found...I am not bashing anyone, you guys rock!)

Okay...so...

Here's the first question and I've seen this asked...and I need an answer also.;)

I have a MT3G and changed my stock SPL to Haykuro's 1.33.2005 SPL with no issues and didn't even have to re-install my ROM. Easy!

Okay... Now I hear and see people saying to use the engineering 1.33.2009 SPL.

Q:What's the difference between .2005 and .2009 SPL?

Q:If it's worth the change can it be easily flashed from one to the other with no issues?

If anyone needs this for reference...

Amon_RA''s H-Boot Collection

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=529019
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jmannyjr33:
I also need to know. I did not change my spl. I rooted mytouch with anon ra v1.2.3.

Do I need to change spl, if I do do I need to unroot then root with other spl? Or can I just change my spl without rerooting and reflashing.?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jmannyjr33:
Hey htcclay.,

I currently have mghtymax 1.9.1 Rom can I change my stock spl without removing my Rom ?

Also what's the purpose for spl? Does it make your Rom run faster
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] htcclay:
Well...

I decided to get away from the "stock factory" SPL.

I have heard that the "Stock" SPL is fine in flashing almost anything.

I mainly did so because I wanted to change my boot screen and could do so with out it.

You dont' need to un-root or re-root going from factory SPL to 1.33.2005 SPL.

It's just a simple update flash.

Was for me anyway.

I am not responsible if you brick your phone.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] htcclay:
So what is an SPL anyway? What does it do?

The SPL, or Second Program Loader, is essentially the Android bootloader. It's job is more than just loading the Android OS - it also offers several other boot options, including Recovery mode, Fastboot, and HBOOT modes, and ultimately it's the SPL that allows manipulation of the flash nand on your device. Part of the SPL's job is to ensure that the data flashed to the device is correct. Most of the current shipping SPLs (apart from the "Perfect SPL's) let us flash a complete ROM image, but don't let us flash a recovery rom or boot image as it checks the verification signature. Haykuro has modified the SPL's available to remove this check and this is what the Engineering SPL's available offer. As the SPL is so crucial to the handset though, you have to be very careful when flashing it as if it's updated incorrectly then you may be incapable of restoring it without specialised hardware and knowledge. You essentially have a very expensive brick ;)

From this post below.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking#sec01
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jmannyjr33:
Kool thanx for the info bro. I'll keep my boot screen.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] htcclay:
Keeping it going
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ebg10:
I am using S-Blurry-1.04 on my G1. I live in arizona(usa) and i have full tmobile 3g. I have tried multiple times to create an account on every cloud, and i always get the error, the blur service has indicated it is busy. I also successfully created an account on the motorola website but when I try to log in on my G1, it tells me my account does not exist on the blur service. Please help me.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shafty023:
Do you have the android sdk installed? If so can you pull up adb logcat and tell me exactly which server it is using? Unless you already know these from what you see on your screen. What we want to do is try to ping those servers and see if they are in fact up. Like someone else said they might be pegged since the phone was just released officially.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ebg10:
I got the log but it was too long to post. I am a java developer and picked out what I believe to be the most important lines:

10-24 19:58:39.411 1667 1692 I WSBase : doRequest(): url: https://ws-cloud2-qa3.blurdev.com:4...counts/4/newaccount?k=android&f=pb&of=0&ssl=1

10-24 19:55:19.701 1750 1750 I NewsBroadcastReceiver: action: com.motorola.blur.service.blur.Actions.ACTION_PURGE_DATAdata: null

_inspectResponse(): found an error from a web service response: ServiceBusyError msg: SERVICE_TEMPORARILY_DISABLED req: accounts/4/newaccount

all of the others were just about power manager.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shafty023:
yup it looks like their servers are pegged. I tried pinging it and got some horrific responses.

ping ws-cloud2-qa3.blurdev.com
PING ws-cloud2-qa3.blurdev.com (63.162.194.209) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 63.162.194.209: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=76.5 ms
64 bytes from 63.162.194.209: icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=117 ms
64 bytes from 63.162.194.209: icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=70.8 ms
64 bytes from 63.162.194.209: icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=73.3 ms
64 bytes from 63.162.194.209: icmp_seq=5 ttl=48 time=74.3 ms
64 bytes from 63.162.194.209: icmp_seq=6 ttl=48 time=74.5 ms
64 bytes from 63.162.194.209: icmp_seq=7 ttl=48 time=79.9 ms
^C64 bytes from 63.162.194.209: icmp_seq=8 ttl=48 time=193 ms

--- ws-cloud2-qa3.blurdev.com ping statistics ---
8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 36088ms

vs pinging google

ping google.com
PING google.com (74.125.45.100) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from yx-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.45.100): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=38.2 ms
64 bytes from yx-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.45.100): icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=39.2 ms
64 bytes from yx-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.45.100): icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=41.0 ms
64 bytes from yx-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.45.100): icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=44.1 ms
64 bytes from yx-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.45.100): icmp_seq=5 ttl=52 time=44.4 ms
64 bytes from yx-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.45.100): icmp_seq=6 ttl=52 time=39.1 ms
64 bytes from yx-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.45.100): icmp_seq=7 ttl=52 time=43.4 ms
64 bytes from yx-in-f100.1e100.net (74.125.45.100): icmp_seq=8 ttl=52 time=38.4 ms
^C
--- google.com ping statistics ---
8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 7029ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 38.210/41.013/44.402/2.476 ms
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ebg10:
Thank you for all your help!!!!!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shafty023:
I ran a traceroute on that server as well and it appears (like they should be doing) that they are using a load balancer but it doesn't appear to be working very well or it is just too overloaded.

I would recommend trying off and on from time to time and see if you can sneak in there and get registered.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] socialenemy2007:
loaded rom just fine on MT3G 32b. Having same problem as others. Tried for two hours to login on all cloud servers. Have created account already on Motos website and recieved confirmation email.

so is the only solution to just wait a few weeks for all the new Cliq users to register since it just launched?

**EDIT** got through this morning 12Nov09. working great!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xenoisme:
i've tried to ping,

but what apperances is 64 bytes from 63.162.194.209: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=76.5 ms

and it seems that it will not stop.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xenoisme:
i've seem the debug,it says that there are somethings wrong in setup.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] penichej:
Problem to login into the account

I got an old account and its not working its like having problem with the internet connection but also i've tried to register a new account and it wont let me do that so what can i do, about this problem i had the Motoblur 1.0 and had another option to setup that was "setup cloud" why dont you try to add this option because that was the way that i did setup the account to the phone.

By the way this option is located when you hit the menu key in the phone and appears emergency call, setup wifi, setup APN and the next one should be setup cloud but it doesnt have it.

Best Regards,

David Peniche
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nvidiaG1:
i try and it says "an error has accured try again" so im guessing everyone is having that problem?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] JasjarMan:
If you take the battery cover off you will see the the tilt 2, touch pro2 is not really thick at all. Htc just simply does not know how to design with THIN in mind. The seem to just about alwats miss the mark in COVER design.

If some manufaturer would make a slimmer solution to cover the back they would make some good cash!

Right now I'm making some sort of "cover" to keep me from returning the tilt. Im right now using it with no cover at all AND I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean take the cover off and hold it, fells GOOD doesnt it? Slide the screen up and use it, feels FANTASTIC. And it looks slim as well.

Man I hate the way they finish heir products!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] manuel.cornelio@gmail.com:
Battery Cover Question

Anyone Know If The Battery Covers Between All Of The Touch Pro 2's Are Interchangeable? I Have A Tilt 2 And I Lost My Battery Cover... I Dont See Any On Ebay... Anyone Have Any Ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] KewlRobD:
I don't know man, I just took my cover off and it looks as though the difference in thickness is about the thickness of the cover. I held it in my hand with it on and off and it feels about that different. I don't see where having the cover off makes any functional difference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Ut0p1a:
try here this is only for european or AT&T, because no 3.5 audio jack.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] clauswl:
I have a tp2, also saw the tilt2. the battery cover on the tilt looks very different, and yes, the battery cover for the tilt2 makes it look bulkier. the cover for the tp2 is basically a lightly bevelev flat piece of plastic. the total thikness of the cover is maybe 4 or 5 mm.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] drkfngthdragnlrd:
The one thing about the T-Mobile USA version I like, The battery cover is slim & don't cover the MicroSD Slot, plus the stylus doesn't go through it.

EDIT: Oh, btw, in the future please post in the correct forum. This has nothing to do with ROM Development. There are plenty of threads about cases/housings/battery covers/etc in the

Rhodium accessories

section where this belongs.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] papichulothrawn:
Nice to see you here drkfngthdragnlrd. Whenever you're around, I know we are in store for good things!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Speaking of, working on porting T-Mobiles MyFaves App. Have it ported & working, just the TF3D page won't show, no point releasing it till I can figure that out. I have all the _manila files (I think) & it still doesn't show.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] mutantblack:
wrong forum but yea. I don't really feel the difference. I like the way it is. It's not thick at all to me. It's just right.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] Nagrom Nniuq:
LOL at the OP. The battery cover is NOT thick and adds 1mm at most (not 4 or 5 as someone else said). Unless the AT&T one is different from all the others (wasn't mentioned in the reviews), in which case blame AT&T not HTC.

Also, it's going to be really funny when you activate your moisture sensors and short out your battery while using your phone with your cover off, all so your phone is 1mm thinner. I'd go ahead and put that cover back on right now before you can't return it anymore.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] JasjarMan:
No no nooo, It's not just about a mm, its about design.

The plastic is probably about a mm thick BUT the ALL AROUND desing is just more bulky than it needs to be.

For those of you that say you can see or feel any difference, do you have a chunky wife? Just kidding, but really, how could you not feel or see any difference?. Maybe you guys are just use to thick phones from htc. And since they are making them a LITTLE slimmer these days you guys are just happy.

But I have a 3gs and putting one in each hand you can see and feel the bluk.

But, like you guys, I love my tilt 2!

Btw, thanks to the guy who posted the website that sells the battery cover! Going to have to buy one just to mess with it and make it slimmer. I can always make it fit the tilt if its made for some other carrier.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] leepriestenator:
Oh for crying out loud... make your peace with it. I can't believe we're actually having a discussion about this. You must have really tiny hands if you can feel whatever difference you are talking about.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] diablc:
You seem to forget there is one HUGE, GLARING, PINK ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM difference, we have a sliding hardware keyboard. If the Iphone had a sliding keyboard, it would be "bulkier." Some people are ok with the software keyboard, i am not, and never have been. My fingers are no where close to dainty. So having a hardware keyboard is a must, plus I actually can compose full emails and correct my mistakes quickly which i think is the biggest problem with a software keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] redpoint73:
I'm actually quite pleased with the form factor of the Tilt 2. I wasn't expecting it to be thinner than the Tilt, somehow I missed that in the reviews and specs. I was expecting something somewhat big and bulky, and was actually quite impressed with how slim and sexy it feels.

I don't have a TP2 to compare. But the Tilt 2 feels good to me. Similar to previous responses, I don't see how they could really have slimmed down all that much, at all. Cover off is really not any thinner than cover on.

Comparing the Tilt2 to a iPhone is ridiculous. If the iPhone had a keyboard, it would obviously be thicker.

You're seriously using the phone with the battery cover off? You're just begging for the thing to become damaged.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] amurch:
If this works, It would still need to be modded for the PTT button that att added.

I agree with the others above, there is not a huge difference in thickness.... a difference around the edges yes, but nothing major.

And put the case back b4 you void the warranty (ie above post, moister sensor)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories] amurch:
wanna see something thick, check that bad boy out. damnnn!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jkantor13121312:
I need to put it back to stock and cannot find the ATT OEM software.

thanks

jay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] corepda:
Have you checked the Wiki section for Kaiser?

I suggest you to check it, it must be there

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

For ROM's

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs

Wish you luck.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jkantor13121312:
I had looked there, it was no longer on HTC website.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] corepda:
did you check the respective threads of ROM's? I hope you may get some mirror there or you can ask people out there about it. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jkantor13121312:
Yes, I read through a lot of pages and even used the search.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] denco7:
Here is the update

http://rapidshare.com/files/91625455/RUU_Kaiser_AT_T_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62_.exe

And the original

http://rapidshare.com/files/55298724/RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_.exe
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jkantor13121312:
Hey thanks for the link...

The second link to:

RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_.exe

is for WM6.1

I was looking for the original 6.0

If I just knew the file name, I could google that and find it, I am betting.

thanks for your time in efflort.

jay
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] denco7:
Are you sure ? I followed a link for an original WM 6.0 rom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] corepda:
Glad to see you Denco, I knew someone is going to have it.

Thanks & Regards

Sunny
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jkantor13121312:
My bad.

Please accept my apology.

Not sure what I did the first time around, but don't things always work the last time you try them???

The last line WAS to the original 6.0! Thank you very much. This is a great board with a vast wealth of resources.

Thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] 12aon:
Issue resolved, thread closed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hyden121:
Hello everyone,

I had a simple question for the community. A long time ago, Leo (Laurentis26) ((Sorry if I mispelled the name)) made the one of the first integrated roms with Manilla 3D for kaiser. I was wondering if anyone has thought about taking that rom and revamping it with the new windows build? I know there are a couple of other roms out there with M3D but that Rom by Leo worked fairly well even though you had to manually turn off the M3D in order for it to sleep. I know there are a lot of great chefs out there so i was just curious if anyone would be interested in tackling that specific rom... Just an idea. I hope to start cooking within the next couple of months and will attempt to tackle it then if no one else does. I personally had very little issues with that rom and it ran very smoothly on my phone. Thank you for your time and thanks to all of the hard working chefs and others who give support throughout the community. Take care.

Hyden
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] corepda:
Emotions appreciated but I think if you are really going to take ROM development seriously then I suggest you to start with any of Josh/TPC kitchen, thats the best base one can have in Kaiser community. Cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Hyden121:
Thanks for the reply. I will check that out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
As corepda stated best bet is to cook your own ROM people have already expressed the wanting a TF3D ROM but for all the issue regarding TF3D the time taken by a chef to produce wouldn't be worth it well that was the general concencous over several other threads created.

Thread closed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] harryrao:
Hi,

I live in Sydney, Australia.

I've owned a HTC Topaz until i sold it to my dad to upgrade to a better HTC phone.

I'm tossing up between waiting until the 11th of November and ordering the HTC HD2 from www.clove.co.uk or to purchase a Touch Pro 2 from ebay.

I just require general advice on which would be a better investment.

Background:

Engineering Student, requiring a smartphone that can organise a busy lifestyle and last a few years without hassles.

Thanks,

Harry.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mike21pr:
HD2 without a doubt. plus the specs garantee that it wont be outdated in a while... unlike the TP2 since a 528 CPU will only take you so far

depends if you need a Keyboard mostly
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] harryrao:
Thanks Mike, that was one hell of a quick response.

After the Topaz I was itching for a keyboard, but i think you're right.

The snapdragon processor will last quite some time and it outweighs my need for a keyboard.

I'm sure HTC can fit a decent touch keyboard on a 4.3 inch screen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ZUUL42:
Plus if you're ever doing major work on it, you can just buy a bluetooth keyboard for it.

Still don't know about the capacitive touch screen. Most devices I've played with that have them seem to be too sensitive and at the same time less accurate.

I wish they were releasing the HD2 in the US.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] harryrao:
Could i get one more piece of advise please - which site would be the best to buy the HD2?

Reasonable postage + pricing would be great.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mike21pr:
they are. Q1 2010 actually