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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] drpal181:
I have been thinking the same by archiving all the bloat on a single page. The bloatware ware is rediculous at almost 70mb of useless crap. Att considers this to be an advantige over the other touch pros. Maybe we should petition att to release a rom with out all this crap.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stesul411:
has anyone actually archived all the bloatware including the programs themselves, locations in winmo and the registry entries on the Tilt2? I'm upgrading from the Tilt (kaiser) sometime this week and would love be able to delete as much of it as possible, without installing a cooked rom.

I guess when it gets her I could start archiving but it would go quite a bit faster with 3 or 4, or more working on it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sclui56:
Did anyone notice that some of these apps reside under \Program Files\ as well as \Windows?

e.g. AWBOARDGAMES.EXE, SUDOKU.EXE, etc.

Are we doubling up on these items?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
The copies in \Windows are in ROM, they're not taking up our storage space. The initial customization copies them to \Program Files and THAT is where they're taking up room.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
Wiki page is now up to 10 apps, comprising 28.4mb worth of storage space. Others, feel free to contribute.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cookiemon:
Is there any problem that you encountered by just removing the registry and program files? Can anyone share their experience of doing this?

Thanks,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sclui56:
Thanks for the info, didn't realize the original was in \windows rather than in a hidden area.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
The way I understand it (someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong), "cooking" files into the ROM causes them to end up in \Windows. I don't believe there's any way to "cook" files into the ROM and have them end up anywhere else.

Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong about this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] catcraig:
Thanks for starting this thread and identifying the files we can get rid of. When I get home, I hope to have time to sit down and get rid of some of this bloatware.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
Could someone put some brief descriptions on things? I could google and do it myself later tonight, just seems like a good thing to have.. Like Mobi4Biz etc.. The games are pretty obvious I guess.

And if anyone identifies any PROBLEMS with removing them. And perhaps when available, links to cabs to replace them, if anyone has such a desire. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
I put short descriptions (as I understand them... certainly I would never be caught dead actually using any of this crap...) on the stuff under Applications.

You could certainly cab this stuff up, but there's no real reason to, all you'd need to do if you wanted it back is copy it back out of the ROM files. I think.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ScubaSteve20001:
Maybe somebody could post a mort script that deletes all of the files specified in the wiki so that after a hard reset or for somebody who hasn't done it yet could just run that instead of locating and deleting all these file manually. I'll do it if I get a chance to get around to it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] swamp2:
Great thread. Thanks to the OP and contributors of the wiki. I can absolutely second the vote to get a good mostly stock AT&T ROM minus the bloatware. It sure was nice to be able to get rid of that on the original Tilt with the well timed soft reset... I'm guessing almost all of the ROM chefs will not find this novel enough nor having enough customization to bother. Sure would be nice.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cincy1020:
Hi:

Sorry to be dense, but what are the steps to remove the items that are in the WIKI? Do you just delete the files, and the registry keys? Also, was the OP's original question answered about whether there are any adverse side effects to removing the files.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
At least one person seems to have removed the items, with no ill effects. I really am skeptical that there would be a problem, as all we're doing is what an uninstall would do.

You are indeed correct, simply remove the files and registry keys listed, and the applications should be completely uninstalled (assuming we've got everything listed!).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] catcraig:
Yesterday I removed the Astraware games, Ferrari and Guitar Hero by deleting the folders and the registry keys identified in the WIKI. I haven't experienced any ill effects at all and I regained 16.08MB of storage space.

Thanks, godefroi for starting this thread and thanks to all who contributed to identify the files that are safe to delete.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
I should have mentioned this, I've removed all of the Program Files and the stupid game in \Windows and the associated shortcuts with no problems here.

I will say I'm not using TF3D so I don't know if it "wants" any of the crap or not, but I'd think not.

Always make a good backup before doing such things. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eknutson:
I blew the bloat away and have had no noticeable ill effect whatsoever. Many thanks to OP and contributors!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sakshaug007:
So I used the wiki link provided by godefroi and deleted the NewsBreak files specified there in, but when I soft reset the programfiles\newsbreak folder is back (with all the contents) and I get a newsbreak error message in the task manager saying "access denied" I simply click "ok" and everything is fine, but its very annoying. I'm thinking there is a registry file somewhere that is keeping these files and causing it to startup after a boot up. I searched the registry for anything "newsbreak" and was only able to find the following:

HKLM\Software\OEM\MASD\MS_NewsBreakLite

Should I delete this? Does anybody have any suggestions?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
Odd. I restarted the phone earlier and I didn't get any programs back.. I didn't do anything in the registry either, to be honest.. Just deleted the files and shortcuts.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stesul411:
followed catcraigs, wiki post and removed all the crap, I also found the registry entry for EA solitare and posted it in the wiki
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] catcraig:
Thanks, but credit for the WIKI page goes to godefroi who started this thread AND the WIKI page.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stesul411:
OOPS, Sorry. I guess I messed up. All credit to godefroi on this one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] stesul411:
I was looking through the windows directory today an noticed files for some of the stuff we've been deleting, Wondering if we should remove those too???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sclui56:
This PC-based regedit is much easier to work with in case no one mentioned this previously:

http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] carhigh:
Deleted all in the list with no problems, even found some links that didnt get removed with some uninstalls and deleted them as well.

Is there any way to get rid of minila?

I am so looking forward to a striped stable rom for my first rom install on the tilt 2. Im sure there is still a TON of things that can be deleted but i am little hesitant to play alone.

One thing that annoys me BIG time is seeing the pictures ad music folders, among others that mysteriously re-appear in the roots my docs when i have them remapped with advanced config to the memory card. Ive deleted those folders about four hundred times now
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
No thanks needed, I'm just another Tilt 2 owner trying to figure out where all that storage space went...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] metalgerm:
Just out of curiousity, will getting rid of these files help with the speed, because when i hit the corner button, it tells me 75% of the ram is being used, i would love to get it down lower, maybe to 55 or 60 percent...thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sleze:
I have deleted all the files (except XM as I am a subscriber) and registry entries and have suffered no ill effects.

One way to make it easier is to copy all the locations into excel and sort by name. That way you can delete by folder and not by app (which requires going back and forth between the ginormous windows folder).

\Application Data\HandsOn Mobile\Guitar Hero IV (I didn't have this one)

\MUSIC\AllGoodThings (0.5mb)

\MUSIC\Because I Feel That Way Too (11.6mb)

\MUSIC\TheBuenaVibraSoundSystem (0.5mb)

\Program Files\ASTRAWARE\BOARDGAMES (3.0mb)

\Program Files\ASTRAWARE\SUDOKU (1.9mb)

\Program Files\ATTNAV (2.8mb)

\Program Files\EA\Scrabble 1.59.10 (1.8mb)

\Program Files\Games\MSPACMAN (1.5mb)

\Program Files\Glu\Diner Dash 2 (1.5mb)

\Program Files\HandsOn Mobile\Guitar Hero IV (4.0mb)

\Program Files\MEdia Mall 2.0 (1.1mb)

\Program Files\Mobi4Biz (2.9mb)

\Program Files\Mobile Banking (1.05mb)

\Program Files\MobiVJ (2.7mb)

\Program Files\mSpot\Make-UR-Tones (0.6mb)

\Program Files\NewsBreak (0.4mb)

\Windows\Gameloft\Ferrari GT Evolution (6.9mb)

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\AppCenter.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Apps\Mobi4Biz.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Apps\Mobile Banking.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Apps\NewsBreak.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Apps\Online Locker.lnk (service doesn't exist yet)

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\AT&T Music\Make-UR-Tones.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\AT&T Music\Music Videos.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\AT&T Music\Shop Music.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\AT&T Navigator.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\ASTRAWARE SUDOKU.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\BOARDGAMES.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\Diner Dash 2.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\Ferrari GT Evolution.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\Guitar Hero IV.exe

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\Ms PAC-MAN by Namco.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\Scrabble.lnk

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Mobile Video.lnk (link to http://cingularvideo.cingular.com)

\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Mobile Web.lnk (link to http://device.home)

HKCU\Software\Astraware\boardgames (this entry not on Tilt 2)

HKLM\Software\Apps\Astraware Boardgames (this location HKLM not HKCU on Tilt 2)

HKLM\Software\Apps\Astraware Sudoku (this location HKLM not HKCU on Tilt 2)

HKLM\Software\EA

HKLM\Software\Gameloft\Ferrari

HKLM\Software\ATTNav

HKLM\Software\MobiVJ

I was done in about 5 minutes.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sphinx88:
I am not a programer, but is it possible to make a CAB files that would do this automatically? Would be great if we need to hard reset...

Or I can just wait til an offical ATT striped down ROM is posted ;-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sleze:
Now THAT is what I am looking forward to.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
I actually saw a reference to such a thing, but I didn't save it.. I'll see if I can find it, but so far no luck with some searching etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
No, none of these programs are of the run-at-startup sort, so you shouldn't see any free RAM or overall speed improvementss, just more free storage space and a less cluttered start menu.

Probably the single biggest chunk of RAM you can free is turning off push internet (there's a CAB floating around to do that).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MikesDroid:
Thanks for this, the wiki page is great as usual.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] carhigh:
I installed the no push internet cab and got opera to actualy close, and thought it was working fine ... however...

i went to try and install fix opera flash this morning and it reported push was still enabled. I dont use TF at all though. I use spb mobile shell and am a little confused why fix opera flash reported push as enalbed and had me disable it.

In the end, fix opera flash couldnt be installed and i reverted the settings back, so i suspect push is still enabled, but i am thinking it doesnt matter since i dont use TF at all
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MoneyManTom:
Can't find the HKLM files on Tilt 2

I'm a novice, but want to remove the bloatware. Where are the HKLM registry files??

Thanks for your help.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MoneyManTom:
Experts Please!

See earlier post. Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
Personally I use Total Commander as a registry editor, but there are about a million out there, some free and some not. There was also the excellent suggestion given earlier of using a remote registry editor (and Microsoft even makes one of those).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jasmithers:
As godefroi mentioned above, Total Commander works very well.

Once you have it loaded and running, hit the "\" symbol near the top right of the screen to get to the root directory. Click on "plugins" (note that whenever I say "click" it means "double-click," as that's how Total Commander works), then click on "registry," and voila, you have your HKLM, etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jbwebster706:
Stock AT&T software

Is there anyway to post the files(cabs) for these particular softwares... I was wanting to install some of the stock stuff on my flashed Rhodium.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
Which ones would you want? Most of them are demo versions, that you either wouldn't want or could get elsewhere.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pyromosh:
Your question kind of inspired me to do just that.

Only instead of a CAB file, it's an EXE, with a config file.

The idea is you load the exe, along with a config file for your specific device (Tilt 2, Fuze, Pure, whatever) and it will give you a list of checkboxes asking what apps you'd like to remove.

You can grab the exe and the config file for the Tilt 2 on my web site here:

http://pyromosh.org/projects/crudscraper/HTC Tilt 2 for AT&T.zip Install is as simple as making sure they're in the same folder, then running the exe.

I'll also start a forum thread about the utility as well.

I'd love to have other developers create config files for other devices, to make life easier on others.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] citizenatlarge:
@ pyromosh- thanks.. your little app sure did the trick for the most part. I got repeated crashed of the app trying to get rid of 'Sample Music' though.. No biggie, the rest is gone. :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pyromosh:
I had already removed the sample music folder manually before I even thought of writing this little app, so I didn't get to test it on that. Thanks for the heads up.

Since I didn't get to see the crash myself, I can only guess what caused it.

I *think* it was caused because I didn't think to check for read-only files in a non-read only folder.

That's been fixed, and if that was the cause of the crash, it shouldn't happen again.

If anyone can confirm that it does or does not crash any more when attempting to delete the sample music, that would be helpful.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sphinx88:
NICE!

I am impressed....

Now I am in a delima... I was going to flash my first ROM today, but I might just Hard Reset and scrap out the bloat!

Thanks for putting this together... Will give it a try.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] planmanb:
FYI:

Quoting Eras2r:

"As for ATT Navigator, there are files in the AT&T Manila that point to ATT Navigator."

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=585403&page=4
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cgl:
My bloatware seems desperate to cling to this phone. I tried deleting the files manually, I can erase the registry keys with CeRegEditor, I can erase the program files, but once I try to click on the windows folder to erase the rest, I get the hourglass followed by a "not responding" message. I've tried a few times and can't seem to get in there. So the I decided to try the crud scraper, but when I run it, my phone tells me my .net framework isn't new enough. Can anyone help with either of these?

Also, being a grown man and all, I'd like to get rid of the facebook app, any idea what registry keys need to go with it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] godefroi:
The ones in the Windows folder are in ROM, so you can't remove them. Use Total Commander and uncheck "Show files in ROM", and they magically disappear.

Install a newer version of the .NET framework. It's available from MS, or there's CABs of it floating around everywhere.

Can't help you with that, sorry. I hate facebook as much as the next guy, but I find it's actually a tiny bit convenient to import contact pictures from. That's all I use it for.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cgl:
That did the trick, thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] apax:
question...im not an expert..where is the registry directory?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] sirphunkee:
You'll need a registry editing app to get you there, the two most widely used ones here are probably Total Commander and PHM_Regedit (both free).

In my opinion, PHM is a little easier to navigate graphically, but TC has the benefit of a full-featured regular file explorer as well...I actually keep both on my phone at all times.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] princeasi:
For anyone interested, I created a mortscript that remove about 95% of the bloatware on the tilt 2 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZMOX5PLN
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] demandarin:
i got of all bloatware wit ScudScraper...wrks great. .i dont know why at&t put that much junk in these phones. phone is way faster n slicker witout da bloatware. plus i have the sd tune up, no push internet, dynamic resource proxy, memory leak mod, and the data fix all installed also. that made a night n day difference with this tilt 2. also have atm dng 3D driver installed. with all of those tweaks alone, made this stock rom very fast or alot damn faster than when it came out da box brandnew. id say getting rid of bloatware is the first thing needed to get up to speed.

Sent from my AOSP on XDANDROID MSM using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Neuralgia:
does anyone know when the Wiki will be up again?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Miami_Son:
More info on this mod would be appreciated, thank you.:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] knox203:
New Wiki Link?

Is there an alternate link to the information that was on the old wiki? I would love to access this info as I am preparing dozens of Tilt 2's and cannot afford to root them all.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mistamikel:
How the hell do you root a tilt2 ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] g00fette:
Thank you!!

pyromosh: thank you so much for putting this together in such a simple and easy package! I removed 42mb of bloatware, which lowered my usage to 60%.

Thank you again! :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Neuralgia:
Anyone with a copy of teh wiki or who knows when will the wiki will be up again?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] loyolacs:
i just flashed the new ROM. First time i have used anything other than stock ROM. Is there a new link to getting rid of all of the bloatware with this new ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Yusuke14:
This doesn't have to do with the wiki at all, iunno what's up with that. But you can use Crud Scraper to get rid of AT&T Bloatware. With the new leaked Rom, it freed up about 30 megs on my phone :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] anyadike:
I used CrudScraper to remove some of the bloatware on my phone, including the 'Mobile Video' link.

But, for the last couple of weeks, though, if I turn-on my phone from sleeping, Opera starts-up and loads the Mobile Video link (cingularvideo.cingular.com), which then always shows an Error 502 (address not resolved). What can I do?
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] 0djed0:
can you please tell me how to SIM unlock this phone?

any free option?

thanks!
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] 0djed0:
anyone? Please...or a cheap system
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] drewcam888:
Im looking to. There isn't a free option.
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] CobraC081375:
free option

if you've had your account for more than 30 days you can call tech support and tell them youre going out of the country and need the unlock code for your phone and theyll send/give you the info free of charge...at least thats how it works for tmobile..you can call your service provider and ask if there is an option to unlock your phone since youre leaving the country for a few days.
[Dash 3G, Snap ROM Development] shaer:
unlocking dash or htc

i just got the unlocking code from this website for $10.17 and it worked ...use paypal for same payment. theunlock.ca
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Darren8448:
Trying to find if anyone has updated a 6.5 taskbar for 6.5.1 as most (all?) dont work.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] omniwolf:
i found this one works fine.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=562251
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] dickenz:
The dll's have changed that is why.

So far apparently mwalt2 has updated his over at ppcgeeks to be compatible with 6.5.1 and the one posted above by bilbobrian.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] aluke:
You can find here:

http://www.htcmania.com/showpost.php?p=598963&postcount=620

Enjoy!!:cool:
[General Questions and Answers] Aafi-rocks:
I am planning to buy a HTC Touch 2...

I am confused whether I should buy HTC touch 2 or Acer X960..

Please advice... with advantages and disadvantages..

:)
[General Questions and Answers] orb3000:
Welcome to forums

Go for HTC!!

Acer will not have the great support HTC has on this site:cool:

Good luck,
[General Questions and Answers] galaxys:
It's a no brainer on XDA :) go for the HTC ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] govindar77:
Hey all,

There are apps for getting 4 rows in the start menu of manila 2.5.

I was wondering if there is the same option on the contacts shortcut page, to get 4 rows instead of the default 3 rows.

Any info or pointers would be appreciated.

Cheers and thanks.

PS> Anyone who suggests searching the forum .. don't bother posting. I just spent the last 2 hrs trying to find something, and came up with zilch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] thaison:
4 rows manila 2.5 peoples tab

check out thread 666165. I can't post a url since I'm a new user, but that thread is the answer you're looking for.
[P3400 ROM Development] PREMOLIKES:
I havnt tried it yet,but will do today.have fun

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=573778
[P3400 ROM Development] PREMOLIKES:
I need a dumpable Rom.Has anyone tried it?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilaclwnjuggalo:
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

ok so i got the motoblur on my phone to as what i read about flashing roms. then all i got was a motorla icon on the screen for like about 20 mins. so i thought i need a different spl and i put it on there now my g1 wont do anything. cant go into recovery rom or anything.help please:confused:
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nonchalant_joe:
If you can't get into either bootloader (camera and power) or recovery (home and power) then you have a brick.

Tell your provider that you got an update then your phone wouldn't reboot.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilaclwnjuggalo:
you mean tmobile will sned me a new one my mom has a g1 she dont use cuz she bought a mytouch3g. i'll just use that if i cant fix mine. i just like mine better cuz it has invizible shield