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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sunki:
Hi I got problem on my malina 2.5 on stock tab doesnt add currency in format (eurusd=x, usdcny=x) after update rom. Before update does, now not. Its other way to add currency on manila tab?:confused:

Thanks Tomas
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Wajk:
this is Yahoo and HTC conflict, i red about this anywhere, HTC not paid for license. But if you have saved ygo database, update is working very well.

but adding still not working...

i hope HTC will fix this....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] colossus_r:
Strange ...hm...

Yesterday was working (adding new rates)....today its off again...

This thing goes on and off every now and then...

Best practice is to keep a backup of the ygoservice.db file in the directory \Application Data\HTC\ygo\.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] makbil:
I'm not sure if this is HTC related. I managed to get one currency added USDTRY, none of the other combinations worked. The interesting thing is, they don't work on Yahoo mobile site either but work on the Yahoo desktop site.

Edit: Temporary solution here.

leepriestenator is kind enough to set up a working file and post it.
[General Topics] mattdehat:
any chance of mods making a marketplace for the uk.i know this is an integeral site but due to being impatient{delivery time}im always looking to buy but get discouraged if abroad due to delivery time.maybe do same for other countries.hope this posted in right place,if not ,mods please move and appols.thanks
[Touch Pro CDMA] dewild1:
Hi, I got this problem, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=445967

I tried this, http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2707841&postcount=4035

And I tried every combo i could think of to get into bootloader mode so i can flash the SOB..

Nada...

HTC Verizon Touch Pro..

Question...

Any ideas how to get it into bootloader mode..

I can not access anything via Activesync, BT, USB, etc..

I need to figure out a way to flash it via SD card... But, my HTC Touch Pro does nto seem to have a way to get into bootloader,, just clear storage via the middle button and reset..

Hate to bother you all, and I did try my best first.
[Touch Pro CDMA] two.s_babygirl:
have you tried holding the down volume and power

press soft reset

but keep pressing other two until you see bootloader.
[Touch Pro CDMA] fusion600:
X2 for Power and volume down while stylus reset in the bottom. works on Bell, Telus and Sprint that I have done.
[Touch Pro CDMA] dewild1:
I tried that AT LEAST 5 times.. But the volume down seemed a little sticky, so I tried it again, pressing so damn hard I thought I may break it.. (Just to say, ya, I tried it, and i tried it before too.)

Now i feal stupid, it fricken is working...

Thank you!
[Touch Pro CDMA] GatorsUF:
now step away from the edge...
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
yes i know i might be in the wrong place, but how many HD users went iPhone and came back? and why?
[Touch HD General] brusko1972:
i wouldnt consider buying a phone with less than a VGA screen
[Touch HD General] shadz:
Well I have a HTC Touch HD, and I couldn't be more disappointed with it, so i'm thinking of changing to the iPhone.

It's a shame really, because the Touch is quite versatile, but there are pet hates that have grown too big now. 1; The battery barely lasts a day anymore and it's only 3 months old. 2; Winmo is a pain and constantly causes me to want to loose my temper when I try and reply to a simple text message. 3; there's better apps for the iPhone such as Facebook (i've tried the winmo version, and it's useless).

Maybe if I get one, then I'll land up coming back again, who knows?
[Touch HD General] leftkats:
Hey... I had an iPhone for a month while i had my HD as well...

Regarding your concerns...

1. Propably you play with your HD quite a bit or you have a faulty battery. If the first one applies then believe me the iPhone would last propably around 6 hours...

2. I dont understand why is that... I mean is simple.. the txt comes, you read it and then reply.. simple as that.. Ok it might take one second more until you get to the reply screen..

3. Its true that there are lots of apps for the iphone, but most of them are crappy things to get you excited, but there is no apparent use of them..

I found the iPhone to be more straight forward but very shallow.. I am into computers and gadgets a lot so WM is my thing and I wouldnt change to anything else at the moment.. HD is a great device and HD2 is even better.. I can't wait to get one..

Take care
[Touch HD General] Gajet:
I've had my iPhone 3g for 15 months now and despite what fanboys may spout on this site, it's not a bad little device. Apps are easy to find and if you sift through the piles of crap and fart apps, there are some real quality applications. It also has a pile of outstanding games.

However I have repeatedly considered returning for the HD and currently am waiting for the release of the HD2 which will be a definite purchase. The iphone is excellent it's UI is snappy and responsive. However everything is dictated by Apple. This means many features are missing, and when buying my iPhone I did sit down and think about missing features and concluded that many of the missing things were stuff I didn't use much anyway. However it's not just about the missing stuff, it's the way things that are added are half done. For example with Software 3.0 Apple introduced Bluetooth A2DP streaming, and yes we did get excited about something that should have been there all along. However to date they still have not introduced the system which initials I forget that, allows the use of Skip forward and back buttons.

Theres also this myth that Apple do things slowly and their own way so that "Everything just works". This is bullsh*t and in the last 15 months I've seen many updates which introduce bugs and faults, including one of the latest that causes the ihone to freeze in sleep mode and become unresponsive. The exact sort of thing that the Apple fanboys will laugh at Windows for doing, but strangely I never encountered.

I moved away from Windows mobile because for a while there was this strange direction for screens to become smaller and to need more buttons, which is exactly the opposite of what I wanted for a touchscreen device. However the Blackstone and even more so the Leo are against that trend. Big screens, low clutter and more finger friendly. With WinMo I won't be constantly waiting for Apple to release an update that breaks my chance of Jailbreaking or unlocking to a chosen network.

I'll be loosing a ton of great games, but in it's grace I can still sell my iPhone for enough cash to go out and buy a PSP.

Aesthetically HTC sense is beautiful too.
[Touch HD General] DaVince:
I have a Touch HD and I just got my friend an iPhone 3G S. I must admit that I really envy the iPhone's fast and smooth UI. But that's it. I played around with her iPhone and I found myself bored with it after a while.

So i don't think I'll be switching yet.

Btw, a guy named tuxhero was able to successfully port Android to our Blackstone. Check out Blackstone ROM development.
[Touch HD General] Marcdu81:
Hi,for business men , windows mobile is the best system . For gamer , iPhone was invented ...
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
I asked because I'm considering getting an iPhone and I keep thinking of all the things I'm going to miss.

I am thinking of not getting it because i'm going to hate the hand-holding and being dictated to re what i can and cannot do with my device, but i am not happy with where Windows Mobile is currently at.

battery life on the iPhone looks dismal

getting tired of the whole unlock/jailbreak constant drama.

I don't know what else i'd get though. Not impressed with the HD2, TF3D looks the same to me, no evidence of it being any faster (it being TF3D) and the whole weather thing is a gimmick...a couple hours and you'll be tired of it

I'd like to see some real world tests of applications.

Then there's the whole thing about buying a device before Windows Mobile 7 drops...

I give up
[Touch HD General] gjpax:
i have a touch hd and a 3gs and to be honest i use the iphone more but then thats maybe just down to personal preference

But the iphone has to be jalbroken to get a fullish benefit

i wouldnt ever tell anyone not to get a touch hd as its a lovely looking phone(better than the iphone in my opinion)and i think the screen size is just perfect

but at the end of the i prefer the iphone but theres not alot in it
[Touch HD General] faire:
I have HTC HD but yesterday bought an iPhone 3gs, and now the HD is up for sale :)

The reasons are many, however if you like HD and consider a switch - wait for the HD2.

The greatest advantage of the iphone is the appstore. Of course many many more things are important. For me - I couldn't stand anymore the WinMo! Mac OS X is absolutely fascinating! Before I buy an iphone, I had an ipod touch, so pretty much I knew what I'll get with the apple phone.
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
like i said not impressed by the HD2...its too big, i hate the buttons, and yes the benchmarks show its faster but the interface looks no different to me.

I find the itunes app store a gimmick...yes you get sucked into the idea that there are tons of apps...how many of them are useful...how many do you use let's say in a week?

i was seriously considering the iPhone purchase...and went through itunes and started downloading apps...from the appstore i've found a total of maybe 10 apps i liked...one's i'd actually use with any regularity? probably less than 5
[Touch HD General] bogdatov:
I have HD and I played with iPhone 3G for couple days. Since I have SPB Mobile Shell 3 installed, iPhone's UI did not impress me at all. It was innovative old days, but now it seems dated.

It is fun to go through tons of apps in AppStore, but not that much useful and serious apps. But I have as much fun at ppcwarez :) Games are much better on iPhone. That is it. I really did not feel better responsiveness from iPhone. May be because I have custom ROM on HD. What I really like is that there are so many cool accessories for iPhone here in US, and almost nothing for HD :(

Anyway ... iPhone is good device. But ... I will never trade my HD for iPhone. I like customizations and that I can make my HD look and behave EXACTLY as I want. Looking forward for HD2.
[Touch HD General] cluclu:
i think you should wait for SE xperia3 (aka Rachael ) which will give you Android OS with 1GHz Snapdragon cpu, 4" capacitive touch screen and 8mp camera.

i own touch HD and ipod touch 3g (which is superior than iphone 3gs), and believe me, it won't provide you so much excitation.
[Touch HD General] openmindedguy:
converts

I have successfully converted 3 iphone users to hd htc after they saw it. All are current Windows users and felt that the combination of phone and os was a go. The fact that they all had to buy iphones locked to a carrier was also cause for them to deflect. Granted, the OS on the iphone is pretty nice but that's where it ends. Most people who see the HD are blown away by the screen, reoslution etc. Looking forward to HD2...
[Touch HD General] chill today:
The HD was my Original chosen phone when upgrading in January. I had not even looked at an Iphone.

I was then given an offer my a relative of 30% discount for life on my O2 contract with an Iphone. I also had a free 16GB White Iphone.

I even Jailbroke it, my daughter got one too. After 9 Months I could not bear it anymore. They are a Wonderful piece of technology and design, but I had had enough.

Gone is the Iphone, and daughter too. I now have the HD, which I wish I had 9 months ago. Daughter has a Samsung Jet.

No more Iphone, Itunes. In are Bluetooth files :) a good camera :) themes :) and many more.

Chill.....
[Touch HD General] Mourmor:
I've got both. Yep the iphone just works well-its perfect for my wife and kids. Now that you can cut and paste and have mms and video its a no brainer.

but

I really like the way you can customise with the HD and the screen is way better in clarity! The HD2 will be a no brainer for me-but my wife would never give up her iphone.

So-different horses for different courses.
[Touch HD General] smeddy:
i've had the HD for six months now, and the lack of games was almost enough to make me consider a switch this week.

I'm not huge for games, but there is nothing that holds my attention on the Tube, and now I see Red Alert comes out on iPhone this week!

Even a basic DOS emulator for the Touch HD, with a soft-button overlay, would be enough for me - for games like RA and GTA2.

The Qualcomm driver situation is also enough to make me look around more when my contract is up. And I sorely miss the Sony Ericsson cameras on their phones.
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
not particularly impressed by Android, but i am interested in why you think the iPod Touch 3g is better than the iPhone 3gs, i've actually been considering doing that, keeping the HD and getting the iPod Touch.
[Touch HD General] cluclu:
i said superior because they (3gs and ipod touch 3g) have same processor but 3gs' is underclocked to 600MHz due to battery and heat issues while itouch 3g's cpu is remained unchanged (i.e original 833MHz).

Original article :

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/consumer_electronics/stats/ipod-touch-3g-specs.html

also, u can see the speed comparison between them

http://www.vimeo.com/6534126

there, u'll see itouch 3g is a little faster (for seconds) than 3gs.
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
I always find it amusing when people get annoyed with the games available for the HD..........Its a business man's/women's phone aimed at business people. It was never supposed to compete with the iphone on games. It you want to play games, buy a console.
[Touch HD General] brusko1972:
well im not a business man but i do own a blackstone. i love winmo despite all the bad things others say about it. i had a n95 for 3 months then the hd came out and fell inlove with it. i do miss the camera of the n95. right now there is no phone out there that i would consider switching, not even hd2. its a matter of preferrence i guess. a couple of my co-workers own ipones and thats their preference. ill wait for a while until another phone comes out that will catch my attention as much as the hd.
[Touch HD General] dwizzy130:
I too envy the iPhone's UI speed. I have jailbroken/sim unlocked many of my friends iPhones. One was an iPhone 3G. I had it for 3 days, Fri-Sun. It was very cool at first. Installing all the jailbroken apps and whatnot. On the second day, I played some games on it, which I will say are much better then any WM game, then after that, I found myself constantly switching summerboard (the homescreen) themes. After the WOW factor wore off (the third day) I was ultimately bored of it and was almost happy to give it back. You get to a point (very fast) that you just can't do anything more with it. I also found my friend who owned it did the exact same thing. He would come to school everyday and have a different summerboard theme and sound scheme. He told me after a while he got pretty bored with it. Now this reply probably makes me sound like some Microsoft fanboy, which I can tell you I am not. I am a fanboy of things that work well (and I give the iPhone props for that) and a fanboy of endless customization. I hope my honest reply can help you make a decision.

dwizzy130
[Touch HD General] DRTigerlilly:
@ Fallen Spartan well just as tired as you are of people saying it can't play games, i'm tired of people saying it's just a business device...it's that very reason that WM has stagnated...people want a convergence device...and there is no dispute that the HD were created solely to compete with the iPhone and it cannot compete on the media front, especially since HTC refuses to either get a good graphics chipset, or provide proper drivers.

@dwizzy130, i get you entirely i remember feeling that way about the 1st gen iphone, you could only do anything if you had an internet connection...and i have felt similarly with other friends phones...but i also had the thought that it was because i hated how they had their devices, and the stuff they chose to install on it, but i get your point and i appreciate your insight.

I don't agree that the games on the iPhone vs windows mobile are on par....they are not. If you compare the same game written for both platforms, the windows mobile games, look more basic, and don't have as smooth or in some cases even modern graphics...If you compare for example need for speed for the iPhone vs need for speed for windows mobile NIGHT and DAY.

This is going to sound very Apple hater like, but what i do feel about the iPhone is that it's a smartphone for consumers...the average user...so it IS missing alot of functionality you find in Windows Mobile for example, which is slated to the power user, i just wish that they'd pay more attention to the gui and the user experience of the device and i wish there was a way to get developers excited about developing for the platform and the end of the mediocre development i've been seeing for windows mobile.

AND i am tired of seeing people praise SBP Mobile Shell....it is such a bunch of crap...it doesn't even look modern, it's a BAD rip off of Sense UI, with that unintuitive gimmicky carousel interface thrown in.....HATE IT.
[Touch HD General] Rizlo:
Well, to be fair, Spb came long before Sense, so your argument doesn't really work. It IS a ripoff, but from Android (IMO). I still like it though, more than TF3D.
[Touch HD General] PoisonWolf:
TC,

No offense, but SPB Mobile Shell is a highly functional overlay in my opinion. It loses out to TouchFlo in terms of eye candy, but it compensates for extreme functionality.

If gaming is important, just get an iPhone and be done with it.

Cheers.
[Touch HD General] Mus:
I ordered an iPhone but wasn't really convinced it was what I wanted so when O2 messed up the delivery I cancelled the order so I could check out the HD2.

I'm coming from an XDA IIi WM2003 phone, so what can I expect in terms of improvements on WM6?

I had a play with an iPhone and thought it was very slow surfing. To be honest I turn graphics off on the XDA.

Important to me is multi-tasking, the big screen, Word and porting E-Reader, Tomeraider, Wikipedia and a few apps from the XDA as well as GPS and SatNav. Would be nice to have sites like MySpace and Soundclick play music (Flash?).

The iPhone felt fun and no doubt the dearth of apps for the HD2 might be a disadvantage, but the lack of stylus accuracy, word processing and even an external keyboard gave me pause...

M
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Excellent point.......think I'll just go into corner with my tail between my legs and be quiet!! :o
[Touch HD General] BerreZ:
I don't know

The best thing on a Iphone is the Appstore and the fact that one company does it all. So better intergration and free updates/upgrades.

The horrible thing to the Iphone is that everything is controlled by one company. If like me you hate that ( big brother thing ) then buy WinMo or Androîd and is this universe still the best phone today and by miles is the HTC HD ( ok with all its flaws , but so tweakable )
[Touch HD General] smeddy:
Just back to games, and I respect your opinion Fallen Spartan, but what bugs me is that the HD/Qualcomm/Win Mobile setup seems designed to stop people designing games.

If we had the graphics drivers, people would make them, but instead there's a million obstacles in the way to stop people trying.

I use my HD as a business phone, and for watching movies/shows on the commute. I'm also addicted to the AlReader e-book program. The camera is okay, although shoddy in poor light, but I can live with it. But I love the phone.

The only hole is in something mindlessly diverting for those odd 10 minutes - something like Quadrapop for the Sony Ericsson, or games like Sniper or Red Alert on the iPhone.
[Touch HD General] smeddy:
Wow... lot of respect for you typing that out on the Blackstone!
[Touch HD General] welki1979:
I used the phone pad style keyboard for most and the landscape qwerty for the rest....don't get me wrong...it took a while and had a few spelling errors before I posted it but I'd rather type it on my Blackstone, knowing that if I recieve a call whilst doing it I can use the HTC Task manager to switch back to opera and continue working on it......unlike the iPhone.

iPhone

Blackstone

...oh and after a day of issues with my iPhone I felt like moaning a bit.
[Touch HD General] Toss3:
Have you ever tried an Iphone 3GS? It's much much better than its predecessor.

Don't really understand how you can have problems typing on the Iphone, but I guess each to their own.

Imo the only problem with the Touch HD is its performance; typing on a forum using opera is a real chore and editing is a tedious task. The Iphone 3GS has no such problems.

The only thing that is better on the Touch HD is its resolution which is especially noticeable while surfing the web.
[Touch HD General] jdcoke:
comparing the iphone with touch hd is like comparing a good toy with a good tool!. u simply cant compare them. they serve diff. needs.
[Touch HD General] dwizzy130:
That is a great way to describe WM vs. OSX Mobile.

I've never heard that analogy before.

dwizzy130
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JoeWilcox:
Anyone else having this problem. When I have my TMOUS TP2 hooked up to USB I keep getting told it's not getting enough power to charge.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] rajuabju:
Interesting. Is the USB plugged into a USB hub or straight into a computer? I can charge mine via USB when its straight into the computer. I'll try with hub a second to see if there is a difference.

Edit-

No, I cant. When plugged into a 4-port USB hub, I also cannot charge. I'm using some generic nonsense hub, dunno if a higher quality one (or one that also plugs into the wall for juice) might make a difference
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] teemo:
Yes!

Many laptops are not powerful enough to charge the TP2. Also many hubs will divide the power between the ports.

A standard USB port will give you about 1A and the above mentioned gives you typically less than 1/2A.

Putting TP2 in standby will help if on a weak port, but that makes no sense, cause then you can use the charger.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] JoeWilcox:
It's directly in to my PC.. weird.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MCbrian:
I got the "not enough power" USB warning when plugged into my laptop...but not right away -- it had been plugged in for 30-60 minutes or so.

I have not received that warning when plugged into the USB port of a full-power-desktop PC, even when plugged in for hours.

I try to remember to bring the ac adapter that came with my TP2 when I'm going to be away from home for a while so I don't have to depend on USB-power from a computer.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Toleraen:
I charged off a 0.5A power source (the most you'll get out of a standard USB port), but the device was turned off. Took about 3.5 hours to fully charge it.

Did you have anything like wifi, gps, etc turned on at the time?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xnifex:
how much power is left on the phone? IIRC, if its too low, your phone will not charge through USB & you need the AC adapter.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] khaytsus:
There are "powered" and "unpowered" USB ports. The "unpowered" ones just basically carry enough current to carry signals, but not actually power a device. The "powered" ones carry enough current to charge a device.

Many laptops are "unpowered" ports, although I think that trend is changing. Most desktops I would assume are "powered".

I personally only power my phone on one of two official chargers I have, although if I'm in the car I'll use a third party adaptor there.

I don't know if the TP2 is any different than the Tilt in regards to charging, but I'd assume very similar.... Perhaps I'll have the TP2 soon, I've finally gotten ATT to let me have an early upgrade but haven't found the actual phone yet.