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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
Is it me, the hd or just O2 Germany?

Okay is there any O2 Germany customer who actually got a network connection up and running? I'm really going nuts here!

I configured the apn according to the specs given like a trillion times in this thread and others. I quadrouple checked the data. The android system is running smoothly and I can use the phone for, well, telephoning and sending text messages, but the darn thing just won't build any data connection! The Airplane-Mode trick won't work (only when I push the End-call button I just get some strange flicker in the taskbar that looks like the matrix peeping through, but I cannot choose any option, so I didn't enter the plane mode from home screen but the settings tab), I set and deleted aprox a million new apn, I rebooted - I did it all! But there was not even the slightest blink of a "G" or anything showing a network connection. In Win Mo everythings running fine, so it has to be ... well I dont know. Got a hint, anybody?

Here is the setup:

Win Mo: 6.1 with standard shipped Touch flow 3d

Provider: O2 Germany (Internet Pack M)

Kernel Version Android: 2.6.27-0057-g24f7ec8-dirtyroot@myworld (CRB43)

APN Settings:

name: o2 internet

apn: internet (checked surfo2 also)

mcc: 262

mnc: 07 (tried 08, too)

startup.txt:

set RAMSIZE 0x08000000

set MTYPE 2030

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

#

# The following kernel parameters are useful

# ppp.username - The username used to connect to the network when dialing *99#

# ppp.password - The password used to connect to the network when dialing *99#

# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller

# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used when the phone is off

# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,

# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt 4=Wait for Interrupt

# Default is 3, use 0 for best power savings

# board-htcvogue.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on

# 0=Don't power off the panel (Default)

# 1=Hitachi 2=Topoly 3=Samsung

# mddi.width - width of the scaled display

# mddi.height - height of the scaled display (these should be multiples of 16 for the camera to work I think)

set cmdline "msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77 msmvkeyb_toggle=off mddi.width=480 mddi.height=800 lcd.density=180 ppp.apn=internet ppp.username=none ppp.password=none no_console_suspend"

#set cmdline "no_console_suspend"

# fbcon=rotate:1

# console=ttyMSM0"

boot

Strange:

Shows "Ion" as phonemodel in android system info.

Call end button just locks screen and causes strange code flicker.

Shows "Viag interkom" (also as double entry) as network operator

Question:

What's wrong here?

How can I figure out if Win Mo cuts the connection when booting haret?

I appreciate you helping me in any way! Even if it's just some vague guess - please let me know. I'm really running out of ideas ... and patience. Help!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
Format your SD card, dwnld the v0.2 and install it.

v0.1 is Android 1.6, v0.2 is Android 1.5 with working data
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
Where are my mannors

Thanks everybody for the excellent work!!!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
Cool, man, that's a quick answer!

But I thought I had the correct build. This is the Version I'm running

http://download.z-z-g.de/Blackstone-v0.2.tar.gz (Thankyou Bastardop)

It's from the first page of this thread. Where did you find your version?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
Ah! Or is it crutial to format the sd before installing a new version? I had a former version installed before this one ...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
if something is going wrong, it's always better trying a format than trying a billion times repeating the same issue ;).

It may a former file remains and cause Data not to work.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobik91:
when come the next version 0.3??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
Nobody knows.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
Reboot and format - the two most important actions in IT;) Hope I'll eventually learn that one glorious day.

Am already formating ... waiting fingers crossed. Hope is rising. Thanks for that!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] otoro_315:
issue on Screen Locked:

1. I was not able to unlock the device once the device in screen locked mode.

2. do a soft reset on the device and get back in to the android.

3. but the screen locked window display and ask Press Menu to unlock.:confused:

4. try to press the Home button (over and over) and it did not release the screen.

5. soft reset again and back to WM.

please advise.

thanks in advance.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaVince:
This is one hell of an alpha!!! :shocked: I almost wet myself. :D

It's almost so good that I'm seriously thinking of completely using this. What a release! :D

Keep it up TUX! You are now in my list of tech gods :D. This is really unexpected.. I'm so happy I have a blackstone!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] alpachiles:
if someone could provide a mirror, it would be nice. this link i thinc is oversolicited..tx in advance..eager to try this. Saves me from bying a hero :p
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] demon83ft:
- hanged when tried to add APN (but APN is saved and appears in list vs 1.5)

- crashed completely doing nothing.

- one time when lock activated when on settings screen it was shown smaller resolution then 800x480

will test more.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] GamerOfFreedom:
This is probably being asked alot but is it possible that the HTC Sense UI can be ported over later in the development
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vanzelvoul:
People Donate to Tux so he can buy an HD2 so he can port it there too!!!

(just sold my HD cause i preordered HD2, but i want to try this so much. Pitty:( )
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skydmig:
Did you try the other keys? What about the "arrow"/"back" key?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ingmar89:
I believe that Tux was not the only one to make this possible.

However I do believe that he was a huge contributor.

Back on topic:

This alpha build is a huge step forward from where we were. Have been able to download some apps with other builds for touch HD.

However these apps didn't all work properly.

This together with the fact that we cannot turn of the screen makes it that i do not use android daily

yet

.

Way to go Tux and all the other devs!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Skydmig:
I am creating a mirror atm. 7 min left.

Mirror:

http://rapidshare.com/files/293904616/Blackstone-v0.1.tar.gz
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bronek13:
Card Problem

To all who have problems with card.

Try something like this:

1) Connect to PC with Disk Drive setting

2) IMPORTANT!!!!! Copy ALL FILES somewhere on your computer so you don't lost them

3) Format the card using normal windows procedure (mine setting 1,89 GB , FAT32, Alocation 4096, Label in my case was HD, CHECK fast format)

In my case it helped couse i've tried to run android, and I have all problems you write about, then with te same files witch dosen't run on my blackstone, Started RUNING good after formating the card. So i always format my card before instaling new build and for now its working :) I have old card so try for yourself.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
OK some findings / observations / experiences so far...

1) Doesn't behave well when low battery (I got a warning about shutting down, then it froze)

2) No Camera

3) Feels like a lot of components are making (wrong) assumptions about screen size... set the wallpaper and it wants to crop to a smaller than necessary size (assume 320x240, but not certain). It's clear the increased resolution is more complex than just 'more screen real estate to use'. Some of the UI has to be increased in size (widgets etc). Upscaling is a bad idea, so new higher resolution resources are needed.

4) Screen calibration fails

5) Home key acts as menu key... it's as good as any I guess

6) It would be nice if long touch on 'back' key returned to home screen, and short touch performed a regular 'back'

7) No audio (at least not for media files)

8) Performance is sluggish, but not unusuable. It's no worse than some of my older WM phones!

9) GPRS connectivity not working (or 3G or HSDPA)... not yet discovered how to provision the connectivity parameters

10) Screen brightness doesn't work

11) Network names are prehistoric (for UK)... some of the names for the Carrier/Network are almost 8 years out of date!... really strange since these should be fetched by a lookup table from MNC/MCC --> String Name. For Android, there's no way these should be so old!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] d.cortez:
very first look at Android... i like what i see. my simple feedback:

- slow to boot, but it booted nonetheless

- a little slow navigating at first... but got better the more i check things out

- was able to make a phone call without problems

- was able to log into my gmail account WITHOUT setting up any data connections

- launched the browser and was able to use Google search

plan to play around with this a little later. thanks for your efforts!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] chalid:
this is working very nice. made a donation a few time ago, and will make another one again. keep up the good work :-)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] nizzon:
How is this different from the versions released in the other Android-thread earlier this week?

Does this one use your kernel Tuxhero?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
did the data connetion really work..

cos it didnt work and even tux reports it as not working...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Could be that the connectivity params are on SIM or in his device, instead of (as in most of Europe) being implemented in the device.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] d.cortez:
i'm somewhat offended at your question/comment. do you think i would lie about this??? i wouldn't state this if it didn't work. i could read email, view my calendar and search using Google. my connection settings could be on the SIM card, i don't know. like i said: IT WORKED! geeze!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] cvchetan:
welll.....

did u hav some files of the previous builds on the card when u extracted the new build??

may be the secret lies in some old file...

just a guess...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Don't forget guys.... the connectivity may not work for 90% of us... but for 10% it may.

SOME carriers authenticate a data connection in different ways.. and they may just be fine with his IMSI/IMEI.. and can grant him access without the normal parameters.

The best option would be to understand WHY it's working for him.

That said... I don't think anybody intentionally meant to offend with 'are you sure?".... it's just sometimes users make strange claims or misinterpret what they see!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] darkdominus:
Hi guys,

I've a working (well kinda, wifi doesn't work) version of Motoblur in my touchhd. Is anyone interested in testing this version?

3G is working, you just have to configure from the setup screen, widgets are working, just added the weather widget, sound is working, i'm just gona try facebook, twitter, etc.

I've created an Motoblur account directed from my blackstone.

In a couple of hours i'll upload this version.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pajaropicante:
So??

is it solved?

becaouse i have the same problems with 3G conection.

and i can not do anything.

i try many many things... but no way

i don't know what to do

thanks for help

best regards

Pajaropicante
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kosworld:
BIG thanks tuxhero
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] A|ex:
thanks that did the trick
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
Didn't do the trick. Even tried a hard reset. DA**********#!

Does the dial in number (default #777) in the startup.txt have any reference in the actual code? I only changed it to the o2 number (*99#) in startup.txt.

What's "Android sh: can't open tty; jobcontrol turned off" in the boot log? Could that have to do something with anything?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeroen1801:
project team

Probably will get negative :-) reaction on this one, but why not assemble a project-team with projectleader that can work in a structured and organized way. Setting priorities, making issuelists, beta test-team, etc etc. Might be more appealing than letting 1 person do all the work by himself and knocking each others brains out....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] luca.321:
I tried with 8gb Transcend but it doesn't work...

however congratulation for your work...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
First, i'd install v0.2 on a fresh new formatted SD.

I'd try to lauch Data from Android by config. it from the sync.

Then reboot and pass trough flight mode

Disable flight mode and try Data.

If it doesn't work, edit the .txt with your Network settings.

If it still doesn't work, just pray for some help from a master.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] giniman:
Well your apn settings and startup.txt seems to be correct, I'm using the same ones.

What you can try is to deactivate the autmoatic network provider selection and set it by your own. This did the trick on my device...

greetz giniman
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ASK768:
everyone who can is already helping in some way or another so there technically is a team, its just not labelled a team.

@tuxhero were you able to get in contact with cr2 about the LCD issue?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Fallen Spartan:
Please read first post before posting a new one

Ta
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] tuxhero:
This is not the first time this concept came up and probably many people are thinkling in same way so i want to say few words abt it. What going on here is hacking, reverse engineering and R&D so perfect person for this type of job is a hacker and a hacker never be able to do his work by defining time lines, task list, priorities etc.. There are many good developers like cr2, dzo etc.. are working on the same task and many people are testing them and providing feedback. When we have all the support from HTC then we do something like managers,dev,testing etc.. so for now this is the best way.

Freedom is the most important thing for any developers and there is no word of Freedom in corporate Style development.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] patp:
Amen to that, this is not a project that needs 21st century corporate management.

If you can hack, join the irc channel, read the logs, read the threads here if you can be bothered to filter out the dross, pick a problem and work on it. There are facilities in place for your output to be shared.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
"Well your apn settings and startup.txt seems to be correct, I'm using the same ones.

What you can try is to deactivate the autmoatic network provider selection and set it by your own. This did the trick on my device...

greetz giniman"

Okay, I worked my way down to "If it still doesn't work ...". What I'm not quite sure about is the meaning of "... configure it from the sync". Is there a way to access the Android settings via pc? THought that wouldn't work due to missing connection availibility.

... and how (and where) do I stop the automatic connection option? I only have two options in the android connection tab. That is "search for all available networks" and "choose automatic" (or st like that). Where can I set it to manual? We're talking about the android settings, right? Or Win Mo?

Thanks both of you for your help and patience!!!!

Greetz

Vader
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Khoufou:
Already answered somewhere in those 120 pages :)

Try some tool such as APNdroid, you can fetch and install it from application "Market".

Would be nice if an "Application FAQ" was also added to first posts in this thread.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
What kind of App FAQ? I think i you need infos about Apps it's better to go to a Android Related forum?

"... configure it from the sync" means go to Settings -> Data Synch -> uncheck Auto-sync but check all other cases.

Then go to Wireless controls -> Networks operator: let it search and choose the one. Then go back to Access Point Names and add there your APNs for Data and MMS (as i did). Check your Data settings, back to Wireless Control -> AirPlane -> reboot -> uncheck AirPlane mode. Voila.

This is how I did (mind the first time I launched Android, the Google settings did the trick!) and i'm not sure i'll work for you.

Cheers
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jonlar:
Well, I believe that is a bit exaggerated. Open source projects are (in my opinion) about collaboration; to assemble/attract talented people and write a program or alike together. I would really like to see more people joining tuxhero and all the other developers to achieve a working android port to the blackstone. In the current model the entry step is very high. Where to you start? What things are needed to be researched. Who is working on what?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
I don't get it, sorry. How am I to install an app whithout any connection? There isn't even a file explorer at hand or is it hidden somewhere? I have the apk on the sd card but can't launch it.

And when I try to enter the Synch Settings, it only tries to connect to the Google Server, doesn't reach it and leaves me without any more options. Strange.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
You still can dwnld from your desktop and drop the Apps onto your SD

Like File Explorer http://fr.androlib.com/android.application.com-mgeek-android-fileexplorer-qznx.aspx
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
Thats what I did. But it wouldn't install.

Man, I really hate to be a pest. The more I appreciate you helping me! I can't point that out often enough!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] giniman:
Did you try it the way jeanfrederic described it above? Thats exact the way I got it working. You don't need any extra apn app...

greetz giniman
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
Well I tried to do it that way. Only I don't have any options, when entering the synch settings (there's just a link to the apn settings, that's it).
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] zee123456789:
teasing

Is it possible to have some kind of teasing about the next version?

I really can't wait!

Sorry for my eagerness
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] giniman:
Just forget the part with the synch settings. I didn't do that either. Start from here:

Then go to Wireless controls -> Networks operator: let it search and choose the one. Then go back to Access Point Names and add there your APNs for Data and MMS (as i did). Check your Data settings, back to Wireless Control -> AirPlane -> reboot -> uncheck AirPlane mode. Voila.

As said before, that did the trick on my device.

If everything is configured correct, you should be able to see 3-4 apn provider under apn, one of them should be o2 internet. In that case you could also try to select another one.

greetz giniman
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
Okay, thanks. Maybe I should just try to forget about it. I did all that several times now. It's probably some strange conflict somewhere. Guess I'll format the sd and follow the routine once more... Yippieh;)

cheers vader
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] pajaropicante:
Hey Vader, I have the same problem. I'm from spain and in some HTC forum here i see many people from spain have the same problem.

It is curios that i have the 3G logo that appear for half a second and then disappear again. And also if i don't configure anything, in Acces Pont names i see both APN allready configurated from the first time i launch Haret, Movistar Internet and Telefonica MMS... but... it doesn't work.

I also try every solution that people post here and nothing workks.

maybe is a problem of or provider?

our Radio?

our Hardware????

i don't know.

tux also give me some advices but I think that is not possible.

maybe in next version we will be able to use de data conection?

It is a shame becouse i think that i can use it durign all day if i have my data conection working.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vader hd:
It's a real drag. So close! You can almost consider yourself lucky, though - only time I have seen the 3G symbol was in a screenshot:(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Spoofy:
Hey Guys, Just wondering if anyone has a picture that i can use as a fullscreen wallpaper? I searched the thread and found a post but the attatchment was removed. Also I am having issues with setting up the APN for telstra, can anyone share some insight?

Thanks
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] herczyn:
i think any will do. just choose a picture, crop it and it should be fullscreen.

thats how it worked for me :)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
It's not possible.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] malph:
hello,

android 2.0 will help ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Riko_Roma:
problem

Hi Friends,

I put all file into SD root, but when I load the haret.exe I see that the installation start, but after I have this message for ever "Waiting SD Card"

:-( why ???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
The problem is not Android, Android is working good, but Android sits on top of what we call a "kernel" which is the relay between the hardware and the software.

So : The software runs good, but the drivers are yet to be done/polished.

(I know it's a bit simplistic approach, but I guess people will understand it better that way)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] krs360:
Why?? Because you haven't read the first page or searched!!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Riko_Roma:
I read the first post, but I don't understand...

"1. If you are booting and your SD card is not working then you will be displayed with the following text “Waiting for SD Card....”. You need to buy a new SD card or wait for a release that support your SD card."

I have the original SD 8gb found inside the original package...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] malph:
haha yeap I know that but Android brings kernel isnt it ? Android 2.0 support, maybe, much better HD hardware no ?

PS:perhaps it can be good idea to put into the topic that there is FAQ on first page...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lambstone:
Nope. Read the thread properly. The kernel is the thing that supports the touch HD hardware. So once the kernel is properly done. most of the android version would run.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
I think that unlike windows / mac or many linux distributions android does not bring any 'drivers', because it would cause a huge bump in the OS size, and we're looking to have a mobile OS, with the smallest size possible.

Moreover, I'm sure that the people at Google don't want to spend time to enable hardware support for device that were not meant to run android (even if it could be in their best interest, it's an investment without any return guaranteed)

So the 'drivers' are made by the developers here ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
I've been trying to get the calibration file for the wifi done without much success.

Reading around a bit,

I built a kernel with the CONFIG_MTD and CONFIG_MTD_MSM_NAND flags set

and followed the procedure (using angstrom) but can't find my mac settings in the dump anywhere.

So I resorted to itsutils and dumped from windows, same thing again. can't find reference to my mac to get the location of the calibration file.

Either I'm being a total moron here (probable) or there's something I'm missing (the plot maybe)..