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[Touch Pro2 CDMA] saumaun:
Not trying to start anything, but those assisting should really keep this in mind:

These phones cost upwards of $600 (US). People will naturally want to be SURE they will not render it into a useless paperweight.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] dallastx:
Yes don't worry about rainbow screen, you need to flash stock Rom
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] TNTRMSKD:
Yes I ran the 3 step security unlock that I got after I paid via Paypal. It went through successfully, but I didn't have a US sim to test it on last night. This morning I managed to acquire a prepaid tmobile sim, so i popped it in and it didn't work. I then proceeded to flash the file in the OP from this thread and that's when I got errors.

Phone did not brick (THANK GOD), I managed to manual flash the HSPL and it has started up again.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] m3Jorge:
THANKS!!! this is awesome ran it all without a hitch!!! :D
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] bee976:
True this is sort of new, so perhaps the usual fixes aren't as apt to work.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] californiarailroader:
I know you were joking, but it might be a good idea to put a ;), :D, lol, j/k or something that shows your intentions. Many of us regulars know you on here, but a lot of newer people or those who don't come on here often may not, so just take that in mind :) That said, thanks again for the hard work on this, it's very much appreciated!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] TNTRMSKD:
Thanks, I hard resett'd then manually reflashed HSPL and I'm back in business. Reloaded the stock shipped Sprint ROM and radio for good measure. Now that I'm not bricked, I'm going to try all the steps from square 1 and see if it works again.

-Mike

EDIT: Ok, oddly enough this time around it worked. My phone was hard reset'd so it was 100% stock with no apps/regedits applied, and I made sure all background processes/apps/antivirus/etc on my laptop (windowsxp) were shut down. Went off without a hitch. I wonder if something in the background of the laptop(windows xp) caused the error the 1st time...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] p3tr0s:
i haven't seen anyone ask this question and i'm a little curious. if i get the sim unlocker for my sprint phone, being that the website asks for my imei # am i tied to the device i first flash it to? basically what i'm asking is that if my phone is replaced with another, will i need to purchase another sim unlocker?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] GoodThings2Life:
You're exactly right, but despite your individual genius, everyone for centuries has realized that Brits are a bit dense/slow when it comes to Common Sense and dealing with people...

Here's the process I performed:

1. Download and Flash using HSPL Unlocker. Worked Perfect.

2. Download and Flash using Security (SIM) Unlocker. Worked Perfect... sort of. The HSPL was already done so when it asked, I told it YES, I've already done this. I ran stage 2, which was a Radio Unlocker... Now, according to it, it's installing 1.00.RhodW (which is actually 2.05.00WV ... NOT WU, which is what I thought was desired at that point). Then I ran Stage 3 which appeared to work perfectly... so I thought I was done... but not so much in reality.

3. Download and Flash using Unlocked Radio (this thread). Worked Perfect... but here's the problem... it clearly says it's flashing 1.00.RhodW... the same as the SIM unlocker... but it's really 2.05.00WU. So this is why I originally said that I reflashed and it actually worked. I later realized not so much.

The breakdown in communication here is that there are two points you claim to be flashing 1.00.RhodW radio unlocker, so find a bloody way to make it report the right information, or update your documentation to more properly indicate what the user needs to do and what the user should be doing next. Moreover, your filenames for the SIM and Radio unlockers are very similar. Why not something like RhodiumWU-Radio or RhodiumWU-Security, etc.?

I'm sure there's a perfectly legitimate reason why you're actually performing a radio flash twice rather than just once. But you need to document it better. If there isn't a good reason for it, fix the f-ing process so that there's 2 parts rather than 3!

For crying out loud, I've been doing IT work for 20 years, and I've seen 2 year olds produce better documentation. Even when I read every word displayed, I as a technical user had trouble following along. Meanwhile, you want to rag on newbies for being stupid, but you hand them a grenade with the pin already pulled and expect them to figure out for themselves what happens next!

Do I expect any pity from you? F no! I got what I expected, and I thank you and have donated for that work! But what I do expect you is to not sit around and demand/expect charitable donations and then to turn around and abuse your less tech-savvy users.

I can only assume by the posts I've seen between the two of you that cmonex is the better half of your team.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] certifiedsinner:
sim unlocker

so question is i m running ENERGY ROM.. and i ran all 3 unlocking steps properly. let say i would like test another ROM let say...elite rom.. do i have to run the sim unlocker process again?????
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Nope you can flash as many ROMs as you like without having to re-run the SIM unlocker.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] ticowboy:
will this going to make my fido 3g works on the rhod400
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Olipro:
the issue here is that you made assumptions based purely on the version string in the NBH... nobody else has done this, practically everyone else's issue has been that they're not security unlocked, you're the only person who's skipped a step because they read the NBH version string and figured they knew better.

I reiterate:

1) use unlocker

2) flash the radio posted in this thread.

I find it ironic that you would make patronising comments about "Common Sense" when you yourself failed to apply common sense to the fact that the very existence of a separate thread with a separate download must indicate some sort of requirement that you actually flash what's posted in the thread.

Additionally, the reason people were failing to security unlock is because they didn't know they needed to hit Commit Changes - I have now changed it so that it is obvious that you need to do this.

and as it goes, this is exactly why "experience" can be counter-productive, nooby users won't question the NBH version, they will just flash what's given and go on, and self-important statements such as your "ooh, look at me, I've been in IT for 20 years so I know a lot ****ing more than you do" just highlights the fact even further.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] OmarBadu:
i donated a month ago or so and just want my sim unlocked =(

i filled out the online support form yesterday after it was released and PMed cmonex earlier today
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Olipro:
there's quite a ************ of a backlog, but she is passing them to me as she goes through them. the best thing you can do though is make sure ALL needed information is in your first message - that means e-mail, XDA-Devs nick (if e-mailing), IMEI and donation ID.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Olipro:
the *WORST* you can do is get stuck in bootloader, which can be fixed with a reflash of Hard-SPL, or anything in fact (so long as it's not the same failed file obviously)... smarter users can just do set 16 0 from mtty.

hardly paperweight creating stuff.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] railslave:
olipro i understand if i donated i can get the security unlocker for free. is this true? if so do i pm you my transaction id? thanks bro
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] TNTRMSKD:
Yep, had quite a scare until I learned the aforementioned today. The absolute worst thing that can happen to you (which if you keep reading isn't even all that bad) is you get stuck in rainbow/bootloader with an error code. Being one of the non-smarter users, I just reflashed HSPL using the manual option, hard reset'd and I was home free. So I guess theoretically, there is no such thing as a 'brick' anymore.

-Mike
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] TNTRMSKD:
No not for a rom, but if you flash/reflash a different RADIO you will lose the ability to use your sim on US GSM networks. If you ever wanted that ability back, I'd think you'd need to run step 2 and 3 of the unlocker and then flash in the radio from the OP all over.

It seems that the elite team will modify newer radios as they come out to work with the sim unlocker, but as it stands the ONE AND ONLY radio that works with us gsm carriers is the one in the OP.

-Mike
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] cmonex:
miss? Olipro is a "mr.". so he does not have that time of the month for sure. :D

PS: Olipro is NOT me. hope this info helps.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] OmarBadu:
thanks - i believe i've submitted all of the relevant information - it seemed like people that waited to pay were able to skip the line but maybe that's not the case and the large backlog is the reason for the delay - i appreciate all of the work that has been done - i just assumed that the people that donated early would have been taken care of faster than the ones that waited
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Olipro:
indeed, that is the whole point of Hard-SPL.

there is no way you can brick your phone by flashing things from the forum - it either won't let you or it will fail and you can just reflash.

the only way to **** your device is to go over to the Rhodium forums and grab a radio for the regular GSM only device - were you to flash that, you would be categorically ****ed.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] railslave:
olipro......i ****ing love you man....you are hilarious!!!!!!!! by the way disregard my pm, i pmed cmonex, thanks
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] GoodThings2Life:
So yes, great job restating what I already stated and proving my point about belittling people instead of actually dealing with the issue.

If they're not security unlocked, then obviously I'm not the only one skipping steps in the process.

But hey, you obviously know better and have no issue with handling people. Who am I to tell you a way to make it easier for people AND reduce the people who are confused. Enjoy the repeat questions.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] saumaun:
Well there are users asking questions. You have developed software. You should expect people to ask questions.

This includes questions that are already addressed. It is to be expected whenever you release something.

There are plenty of developers, like chefs, who are faced with thousands of posts with questions. I have not seen a single one lost their cool. Sometimes people just want to know for sure! Nothing out of the ordinary! There really is no reason to give anything but the answer. Maybe even add "I already addressed this in the first post, but [insert answer here]".

I would say if you can't handle the questions from users without acting the way you are, you should switch with cmonex and have her answer, and you can take care of the load of messages she's taking care of at the moment.

I consider myself and experienced user, and I was even confused. I came to this thread to ask a question but ended up posting what I did out of fear of being ridiculed.

Trust me - everyone appreciates your work. And yes, assuming the development was completed when the unlocker was actually released, you are probably tired. But please don't take out your frustration out on others here. Everyone wants to learn and better their devices. That is what the community is for.

This post isn't intended to offend anyone. I just want to make sure that no one changes their opinion about you.

A company can make the best product in the world, but if they have bad support, the company will suffer. I don't want to see that happen to OliNex.

Keep up the great work, and try not to let things get to you. There will always be questions... How you answer them determines how people feel about your work.

That is all, have a great day!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Olipro:
no, they're not skipping steps, they're merely not tapping the Commit Changes button, that's a wee bit different to simply totally bypassing an entire procedure. and as I stated, I changed it and have dealt with the issue.

I wasn't trying to belittle you, but looking at your previous post, I would certainly question whether you were.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Coppermine18:
I hate to ask this -

but I saw

'Sim inserted of Course'

So for clarification - Do I need a GSM carrier sim in when I do the flash due to needing communication etc or can I have it in GSM mode with the Sprint card in (I forget the name of the type of card Sprint uses in it).

I am pretty new to doing this but I flashed my Touch Pro (1) fine and am comfortable with the unlocking and flashing process which is cake but not up to speed on a what takes place.

Just a guess, but others are probably trying this not knowing as well.

Thx
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Olipro:
this radio is still a radio, people know how to flash radios for other devices (i.e. by being security unlocked) - this is no different.

to be honest, aside from the odd posts where I've gone off on one (mainly yesterday) I've (attempted :p) to maintain composure, however I would also say that comments from you:

"These phones cost upwards of $600 (US). People will naturally want to be SURE they will not render it into a useless paperweight." - such as this one, are not helpful in the slightest, they incite fear into what is a harmless process even IF you don't manage to security unlock.

I realise I'm a bit of a ****, however, most people who ask already answered questions generally don't bother to read through what's already there, so on that basis, the odd stern instruction might well make them sit up and take notice.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Coppermine18:
In defense to Olipro try having 48358439532 people email, pm, im etc etc w pressure WHEN WILL IT BE DONE WHEN WHEN WE WANT IT NOW.

He got it out, there are questions - and PEOPLE need to participate in helping each other and being patient by sharing the knowledge data can later be gathered and a more proper FAQ/Troubleshooting guide can be swapped in.

Seriously though? So much hostility for something that was pushed and begged for? GIVE him a break.

Its here, help each other and add to the community he couldn't possible recreate all of your user/computer/3rd party software errors otherwise he'd be jesus.

My 2 cents.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Olipro:
the Sprint card is in fact a GSM card, so it will suffice.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] cmonex:
HAHA sadly you are wrong on this one - trust me many people (noobs too, especially them) keep asking me about "no image" displayed in the HardSPL process... or about the ROM version displayed when it's just a radio flash. and some other people (noobs too) ask about the NBH version displayed.

our impression on XDA stuff (i.e. the released packages, hacks, tweaks) really differs - you see it as a simple process that can hardly go wrong in most cases, and I tend to see it as a complex one where it is a wonder that beginners even manage to find their way around. :) I guess many people are good at figuring things out in the end. but many are completely clueless and then they'll ask questions no matter how good of a FAQ we've written before...

yeah someone mentioned a FAQ would be useful and I plan to get one done (or someone else can do it, to help a bit). but I'm sure there'll still be people asking the same things over and over. that's also a reply to this post:

I'm sorry to say but people will always keep asking questions :) I don't know why... even when I write up really detailed step by step instructions they will come back and ask me (in PM, duh) or in the thread (better). of course I'm sure the instructions still help many other people.

as for 1.00.RhodW, that was me forgetting to set some more specific version.. NBHUtil has this as default. I can repost a radio package that has 2.05.WU if it helps.

as for you saying the documentation is worse than what 2 year olds would do... if you have a bit of time and write up suggestions for all the descriptions, instructions, messages etc etc, to be something better, it would be a great help. otherwise I hope I'll find a few hours to write a FAQ or something.. but you could really help here :)

(don't make suggestions on changing the process itself, i.e. it can't be fewer steps or fewer radios)

what was confusing exactly? can you tell us?

btw, that's just Olipro's style. you'll see :P

we agree on the importance of support :)

PS: can't really switch tasks on that one with Olipro for technical reasons
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] starscalling:
****ing badass - ive not many posts in cell forums, over the last couple years, i tend to lurk, watch you and a few others, and have a little patience till its free [yeah i know cheap cheap!]

Anyway keep up the good work, and as a suggestion for the first radio, if you can set arbitrary values for versions, how about something like "radio.to.unlock.1.0" or something, since its a middle step that must be written over its not necessary to show 'real' versions, and possibly less beneficial to a few of the newbz
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] lukemp3:
im so loving this, it works with my att sim..... thank you
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] TNTRMSKD:
It would appear that this radio still has some bugs (at least in my case). I've been able to get it to work successfully with both prepaid and subscriber T-Mobile SIMs. No data naturally. The thing is, with this patched radio, the general behavior of the phone (touchflo especially) becomes incredibly quirky. For instance, if you hard reset with this radio, the stock sprint rom will not launch touchflo 3d on the initial run. Also, when the phone goes into sleep and has idled for awhile all sorts of weird **** happens when you bring it back. Sometimes powering down gets stuck after choosing 'Yes' to shut the phone off (I get the four color "windows is busy" swirling circle for a few seconds, it then freezes along with the rest of the screen). The only way to remedy that is to yank the battery. Moreover, once in awhile the backlight of the phone will just become unresponsive. I can tell the phone is still 'live' as blindly pressing the hard send key lets me make a phone call, and pressing the volume up/down buttons does indeed trigger the ascending and descending volume 'ding' sounds. Again, the only way to remedy is to yank the battery. There are other things that go outta wack as well, but the ones I just mentioned stand out in my mind the most at the moment.

When I re-flashed using the stock shipped Sprint ROM .exe package and kept the 1.96.00FW stock radio, all of these issues went away. I think I'm going to stick with the stock radio until some of the bugs are worked out. Being able to use a US SIM is great, but at the expense of your phone acting like it's on crack...not so much, lol.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] GoodThings2Life:
I apologize for countering with some shots up your nose instead of across it. Steps are steps, one small step in a sea of steps and stages isn't much different. You did, indeed, address the commit changes matter, and I'm sure it does help.

Thanks again for the efforts!

Cmonex, thanks for your responses as well! Oh yes, you're exactly right on people asking questions no matter how thorough. Olipro isn't wrong at all... some people just really are idiots the first time around due to not reading/understanding. But at least it gives him an excuse to say, "See troubleshooting section in Post #1" instead of going off on someone! :lol:

The version number changes to reflect what's really being flashed would make a huge improvement, I believe. That's precisely what I interpreted, when I went to run the second radio unlocker, I saw the same version strings and concluded I had already done it, so I stopped. I came back to this thread and noticed the note on WU vs WV, and it took a few minutes for me to have my DUH moment.

I also think that a note/link in Stage 2 of the SIM Unlocker for the Unlock Radio step would be beneficial... something like: "Sprint users will also need to flash the World Unlocker Radio found here."

Incidentally, the new information posted overnight is a huge step in improving the resources for those of us a little more savvy. I know that those of us from PPCGeeks do make an effort to intercept a lot of the questions and this gives us lots of ammo answer questions on your behalf.

Again, thanks to both of you for all your efforts!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] grizzlygoon:
did it find the network automatically or did u do it manually? and does it lose the network sporadically? i have these issues, not sure if its the radio or not.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Paragon:
Ok, so far in my searching I have not found a straight answer to this question: Does this combination of unlocker and radio flash unlock the US 3G bands? I know there are other unlockers out there that unlock US GSM networks but they don't unlock the US 3G 850/1900 UMTS bands.

Dave
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] OmarBadu:
it appears that it's only possible to select either cdma or gsm - will it be possible in the future to be able to have both active at the same time and somehow be able to choose which network outgoing calls/texts utilize

i have that same issue with my tmobile sim - it wouldn't find the network automatically but if i select manual it gave me an option of tmo or at&t - once i selected tmo it would let me make a phone call and receive them

it seems somewhat sporadic but always happens after i make a phone call - it will lose service then pop up the msg box asking me to register on either at&t or tmo (msg box doesn't come in fully tho) and once i select tmo it puts me back on the network

after i entered the gprs wap setting it let me use data - although it's a blackberry sim so i believe tmo will turn off data at some point
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] s2k-rob:
same isue

I did the noob move and skipped the hspl part on the sim unlocker cuase i already had done it. So just like mention before I got suck in the multi color screen . flash a new rom got the cell back but now it seems like I need to go through sim unlocker again ? I payed for it and I messed I would hate to have to pay for it again cause of my stupid actions . Yeah I know I messed up for not following the directions .I already kick my self for it
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] ruskiyab:
I'm having an issue getting this to work.

I got the unlocker, opened it, I already had HSPL, so I went on to step 2, that ran successfully, I ran step 3, selected all the options on the GUI that was pushed to the phone, then, I tried to flash the radio from this post, it went to 100% and I got Error 290 and the phone was stuck in bootloader. No big deal, I reflashed my rom, tried to flash radio again, same thing. So I tried to run the unlocker again, step 2 completed but step 3 gave me an error, something about verification and it said to check my email, still nothing in there. Any suggestions?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] freeza:
I'm one of the few who got it right the first time and had no confusion at all in what to do :)

Thanks cmonex/Olipro (Bffs!)
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] ticowboy:
im in the same position please help !!
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] yznhmr:
ok IM confused...

Why do some people have " Radio Version: 4.49.25.17" as for the TP2

Will that work on a TP2? if so where do I get it..

Also back on topic in this thread..Im still not clear on why some on in the US needs to have a sim card working if they have sprint with the everything plan?

Currently I have the 1.96.00FW, is there any reason to switch?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] cmonex:
noooo, do not try a GSM TP2 radio. 4.49.25.17 is for GSM (European) TP2, not Sprint/Verizon branded TP2
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] cmonex:
you dont have to pay for it again, you can just rerun it from step 2.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] s2k-rob:
Thanks for the reply but The unlocker didnt save it just run of my pc so there for im still waiting ( since it came out when I bought it) to see if you guys can resend it or something . SO can you please get me to step two .
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] yznhmr:
Yes well we both know how that turned out...

I didnt wait for an answer, and look.. "cool paper weight..."

back to the Mougal for me till my new TP2 shows up..

I wonder if the Sprint store tech center can plug it in to their magic machine and bring it back? any thoughts?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] mslug:
2 questions if i use a verizon tp2

Does this allow the flashing of cooked gsm roms and

will 3g work on att?
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] cmonex:
send us a request for this at our support page http://support.htc-unlocks.com/ (new support system! :D )