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[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] malph:
Yes it was my question... if anyone in Android (only google ?) 's side developed some usefull drivers for us in 2.0...

So ok, hope everything is going fine for 0.3 release...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bl@ck:
Simply, some SD Card brand and model doesn't work actually, so if you've a Transcend card or a class 6 card from any brand android will not work.

If you want to try it buy a 2gb sandisk class 2 or class 4 sd card (that's around 5€ here in italy)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Uglymike:
Thanks, Tuxhero!!

Just a message of thanks and of support.

I just installed alpha 0.2 (had the BLACK100_ANDROID_SND version previously) and it runs a lot nicer now!

I love the fact that we can get into the market and install stuff, BUT.... If I search for something in the Market (eg "Draw") and I get, say, 40 returns, I only see those on the first screen, ie I cant scroll down to see all entries, just the ones on the first screen. Anyone else have that?

Another thing is of course that gorgeous as it is, our HD WVGA screen is again causing issues (same as with WinMo .cabs). A lot of the apps just use the upper right quadrant, squishing everything down. (Bejeweled is one but also eg Bonsai Blast) Is there any way around this? (upscaling? startup.txt settings?) or is it something we just gave to live with and the fault lays with the developers??

Tuxhero, I tell ya, the day 0.3 comes out with a functioning power button and LCD on/off, there'll be a donation heading to India...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Mc S.H.O.:
tomorrow i buy a htc magic for myself

and flash it to the Hero rom..

looking how it is when i have a android phone in my hands

i hope this blackstone android stuff ..be going fast to test it on my hd

1 question

* when i flash the magic.....is the simlock then free ??

can sombody say this to me??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
We don't know, and it's the wrong thread, you're on a blackstone thread here, on blackstone android, not on the Magic / Hero section of the forum...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Budadank:
Fards,

Are you referring to the MAC address of your WiFi adapter? This can be found from within WM WiFi settings > Advanced Tab.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] herczyn:
that is only partially true. see this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4755694&postcount=272
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
Well, of course there are some differences in communication between the kernel and the different android versions, it's like trying to put a win 95 driver on windows 7, it wont work that easily, but however we will know how things works and we'll be able to figure them out more quickly
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] fards:
yes I know that.

No I'm searching for my MAC within the NAND dump itself as that will give the location of the Wlan calibration code and I can rip it out so I can try progressing with getting wifi working.

I've not found any definite instructions on it yet so I'm trying with what I've found.

for example http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=WL1251

but not certain if the calibration file starts with the header 0x02 0x11 0x56 0x06 0x1C 0x06 relates to every device or just the raph.

Other stuff I've found suggests looking for Mac address so I've been searching for mine.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
Well, if I understood correctly, they say that the calibration header is 0X02 0X11 ... for raph and diam500, so I think it's the same for other devices as well
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NavZay:
Hi guys, this is really awsome :D

I cant seem to get the internet working, apn is setup, gmail works, market works, even downloaded a few games (went quite fast) but I can't seem to get the browser to open up a webpage. when trying to go on google, the yellow bar fills up 3/4 and stops. Should be simple to fix since the net actually does work. I dunno, any suggestions?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Duncank:
Isn't there another browser you can download in the Market? Or else you could try Opera Mini. Maybe that solves the problem for you:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] polis85b:
You can use?

can you use it as a everyday phone ?(i mean does the phone, sms work?)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheNose:
Any news on an update tux?:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BlastOS:
Can you please stop posting continously the sames questions without reading only one post of this thead.

Android is not enougth stable for a day by day usage

because some part of the hardware are not fully supported (power management, touchscreen, ...)

A few people can send sms other simply can't for an unknown reason (maybe because of the operator)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BlastOS:
As we know he's always working:

You can look @ irclog --> http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux&day=27 it the last time he was seen...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lepop:
Yeah new SDCARD, works fine: )

Sandisk 4g class 2

But now, how to install app from market ?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gringo313:
hi

tuxhero you are living ???:p

sorry but im wait for long time a v3 version and you don't give a date for release and your last release date of 18/10/09

you have said v3 come on 3 days or 4 after you have gives a first release and v2 ....

Please give me a date
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] linofaria:
Tux a question:

When you manage to solve the problem of the LCD and the Bhutan Power and WiFi, it will be possible to put a skin-mos of the Hero, or ever will be possible?

Thanks ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NavZay:
Pretty sure he said ETA of v3 is next year...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] gringo313:
Is real ????
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] miniterror:
ni its not real but tux himselkf doesnt even know when next release is so he cant give a date

guys quit asking for a update

he have said that its worth posting as a update he will do and in the meantime relax

grab a bear or smake a j*int

whatever you do to relax and let the man work
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeroen1801:
:confused::confused:

Question to the crew: aren't you guys afraid that by the time you finally managed to port Android to the Blackstone, people won't need it anymore since HTC will release more Android devices quite soon (one of them is the HTC Touch HD with Android as OS, codename Dragon).

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/HTC-Dragon-11.jpg
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] drrogern:
Dude, thats a new device.. We just want android for our blackstone's because we dont want to have to buy a new device.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeroen1801:
Ehh that what most people tend to do ;), buy a new device once in a while...:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] samsanchez88:
Hopefuly we can hold onto it for a little longer!!!!!!!!!!! After all, the service provider has ma ba**s in a vice for about another year an a half!!! So i think i'll wait for tux to give new life to my dear hd!!!!!!:D:D:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] NavZay:
Good Point, wouldn't it be easier to port android from that device?

I know nothing about programming, just a thought.

For now I'd just like my browser to work :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
It's a new device, with different hardware.

So no, it won't help, not at all.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Morden:
I don't plan on replacing my HD for at LEAST another year, probably more. So for me this project is critically important.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] flywithme:
Me too!

Touch HD has good hardware and so much potential not yet uncover!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
It sucks for those whose cell phone service is based on contracts. In China, there really aren't any contracts. They exist in the phone business, but are ultimately very very rare.

Still, these devices are hundreds of dollars. They are nothing to scoff at and toss aside in less than 12 months of ownership. I just got my HD in March, when it was the latest cutting edge.

It's only November now. Sure it's not the newest but it's not all that substantially different from the newisher models like the D2 and Pro2, and the HD2 is still 6000 RMB ($880). There is no way I'm dropping that much money on it. FFS, the real iPhone is like a fourth of that price. Since the Dragon is nearly the same, or the same device, I don't expect it to debut for much less.

The aforementioned makes this project quite an interest. It's fun to get to play in both worlds. Admitedly, after I got SPB Mobile Shell I stopped feeling like android had anything my Windows Phone didn't, but it's still nice to have both to use. I'd really like to see a world where they sold more than one OS option on the same device.

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] joostbraakhuis:
Super duper excellent!!

this works so much smoother then WM 6.5 :D and manila (sense)

I love it!!

when does a newer version comes out?

big complements!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeanfrederic:
Use Topix6.1 :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ReijMan:
And it has so less features on the blackstone! :-P

I'm happy with WM6.5 with SPB/Manilla.

Would love to toy with Android though, but I don't see any reason why I'd use android as main OS.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] linofaria:
Hey Tux,

any good news about Lcd ??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] shah1237:
Buddy, i am in canda and had to order the device from UK.

I paid like CDN $750, way back in march.

I think about stretching this device till march. 2011.

W6.5 cooked roms are good, but still have bugs.

And i have lost all interest in windows mobile.

Android is the future for me.

Tux's and other developers are doing a great stuff with porting android.

This certainly helps me to prolong the life of my device.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] joostbraakhuis:
totally agree with you!!

i've done a bit of research on android and the marketplace etc. it is delightfull

i like the smoothness it's compared to iphone, WM can't compeed, it always takes time to load allot of applications..

can't wait for next release..
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] root:
Well to avoid only pluses... it is smooth (while the marketplace is just

an annoyance i would rather see it wouldnt exist but for half crippled

computer analphabeths maybe it fits)... but i would seriously avoid

saying about WM beeing able to compete or not. Microsoft got

a kick we will see WM7. They are idiots if they wouldnt beat the iphone

and android (and they have money and knowlidge) into mud. In any case

i hope one of OSes will prevail and kill all others, for the sake of development

tools i hope it is going to be Microsoft, open source community wasnt

able to put out anything like VS6 IDE in last 10 years). There is nothing more

annoying than having to develop for few fundamentally different OSes.

One more thing is freaking google privacy threat. IMHO the first thing prior

people start using android would have to be sync. application that stores

contacts (and other stuff) on their servers in encrypted form... i am slowly

getting sick of different firms trying to map out social networks and trying to

get those data via free emails, invitations, offering contact storage place on

their servers, GPS mapping,...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] joostbraakhuis:
okee i have to agree with you,

now hope WM 7 will work on HTC HD smoothly:D

els i must buy a new phone;)

later
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] A|ex:
The chances of WM7 running on a HD smoothly is a bit crazy, WM6.5 sucks so much resources what makes you think WM7 will use less?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] samsanchez88:
Well, maling os's lighter seems the way things are going lately; after all, windows 7 (for pc) is way lighter than windows Vista, so if windows bother to start wm7 from the foundations and don't build over wm6.5 which is built on 6.1 etc etc... they can make it much better and much lighter.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kingofslide54:
@all the Movistar Spain Users:

Since there's no way to make 3g work with the alpha 0.2, i've got it to work using the ion files on this package: http://rapidshare.com/files/293276662/BLAC_touch_quicfix_ION_corrected.rar (the one in the wiki) with the zimage from the alpha 0.2. It seems less stable than pure alpha 0.2, but 3g works with movistar.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] v1000:
Very good!!!期待发布V0.3
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] dannyzhu:
Where can i find the source? and How build it by myself?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BlastOS:
You can start looking to the wiki pages:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] lepop:
how can you download apps ?

I could view the market but i cant install apps from market :(
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] sandresimon:
It all depends on the type of data plan you have. I guess you have an Illimythics 3G plan on SFR, and if you don't have the Full Internet option, you won't be able to download applications because the android market application uses ports that are not allowed by a standard wapsfr connection.

That's why all android phone on SFR come with a so called Full Internet Illimythics (of course more expensive...).

In short: you'll have to wait for WIFI support to download and install apps on your blackstone OR you create a new websfr access point and pay superexpensive extra charges when using it :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] malph:
everybody is gone ?

*malph pokes tuxhero* ^^;;;;
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
wm 6.5 is lightning fast for me. But sense tf3d from Leo is still really slow as I've tried it. However, I do hear that the latest ROMs have brought a lot of speed back to it. Scrolling in 6.5 is certainly very nice.

Android is a mixed bag. It's a totally different platform and that means tweaking skills have to be relearnt. That's not a deal breaker, but just means it'll be a pain for a while. At this point, I can provision a WM device for a provider it was never meant for. I can change the nature of and type of network connections, etc. But my provider requires that different services and sometimes a few different websites have to go through different APNs (!). That's a ***** to get working on WM. Maybe if I can figure out how, and can learn to do such tweaking with Android, I'll have a compelling reason to use it all the time.

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zwonzen:
sorry if somebody said it before but a new version of android is released: 2.0 Eclaire

you can find it here;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobdude5:
do you think it would be possible to port the htc tattoo dump to the touch hd?..it has android 1.6 with hero and the tattoo is a resistive
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BlastOS:
Tattoo hasn't the same hardware as Blackstone,

look at this link to have an overview of technical details both phones:

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2932&idPhone1=2525

If it's the same hardware it doesn't mean that internally it's connected the same way and this is the real problem: to figure how things are connected and works together...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] BlastOS:
The problem is not the version of android but the kernel (the lower level close to the hardware) if the kernel doesn't work properly android doesn't work either.

The kernel is not enough stable for run different version of android it's for this reason that tuxhero has come back to android 1.5.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] yizhaoyixi:
waiting for upda:Dte~~~
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
Please STOP posting about "waiting for update"

We are all in the same case, and the developers don't let us waiting for their own pleasure, the next version will be out when it's done.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
You do understand, that posts like that are probably to subscribe the user to the thread, right?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] onesolo:
And you realize that there is the Thread Tools where you can subscribe a thread without posting a single post???
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] daniel.hunt:
It's hidden in a an obscure link at the top of a thread - I actually never even knew it was there. Until there's a bright, flashing, "Subscribe to thread" button somewhere, replying to a thread is the most obvious way to do so
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] malph:
it is smelling htc dragon isnt it ?

:D

PS: it is a joke
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Homeodor:
Quartz

Hey everyone,

I have a HTC Quartz (HTC MAX 4G), which is basically the same as Blackstone. I could launch Android 1.0, but the latest version fails.

First, Haret asked me to specify start of RAM (RAMADDR), which confused me. Anyway I did (0x10000000), and Linux started loading, but failed. After many trials I found out that the failure comes somewhere like...

bluetooth rfkill state OFF

msm_gpio_set_function(13, 0)

msm_gpio_set_function(14, 0)

msm_gpio_set_function(15, 3)

Then the screen goes blank and everything stops, still LEDs are flashing and the device vibrates when tapped on screen bottom.

Can you please help me out?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] aavan:
I'm sorry but I don't think you will find that kind of help here.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Zwonzen:
try it @ #htc-linux
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vouros:
Problem on starting Android

The problem with mine is that it stops on the black screen with the message "waiting for sd card"....What can I do I will wait too but also for somebody to help me....;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Geeba:
Think you may need to read the first page of this thread....
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] galileo8fr:
Many SD CARD are not supported yet as TRANSCEND 8GB class6.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] polis85b:
cant send sms

i can resive a sms but i cant send anyone can help me to solve this problem?:confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] raffe:
Sorry, I have searched, but cant find this info. When I have played around with Android, how do I reboot? Now I just take out the battery, but is there a better way?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] mitikos:
Yes :)

Take away the back cover and with the stylus press the small red botton u see at the bottom near the sd card
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ReijMan:
nope.

Either remove battery or press the little red button. (reset)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vdelf:
on kovsky aka X1 you can hold the end-call-button for a few seconds. Then a menu pops up, where you could shut down the phone. Its an android-function so it should work on blackstone, too.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] FabianNL:
But it doesn't work, trust me, we already tried it ;)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] herpez:
However, in some TRANSCEND 8GB class6 it works (like mine) with any special thing... :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] malph:
no news... bad news...
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Steve.aitken:
Thanks

Thought it was worth recording what I had found with this:

very usable - does rip through batteries, but that's understandable at this stage. (phone got quite hot, and even ran the battery dry with the charger plugged in! :) ) - booted first time with no config from me, and I was able to get a 3g connection to Orange, and download Apps which was great! (and the reason I thought it was worth donating.)

Speed seemed very good -

I am very impressed with the work to date, and can't wait to see Android 2.0 on the Touch HD whenever it comes.

Keep up the good work Tux, and please guys, don't discourage him from giving us all that he has already and all he is likely to in the future.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] galileo8fr:
Did you do something special or are you just lucky?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Heefy:
Is this project dead? I thought initially the 0.3 release was only going to take an additional few days.

I hope that all is well and this project goes on to greatness.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Bl@ck:
i think tux is having some problems with LCD On :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] kniffo80:
don't stress tuxhero please. he gives updates from time to time in his thread here. so *please* be patient. he's workin' at a few things simultaneous.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] herpez:
Just lucky. My microSD is from ebay and is original (i think):eek:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Khoufou:
From what I could understand reading #htc-linux irc logs, main git server (source repository) is broken since nearly 2 weeks, so everybody was working alone and not in a centralized place, slowing down development. Since yesterday, a new git server has been used and devs pushed their sources on this server.

Don't be in such a rush, they are plenty of people working on making Android on HTC systems a reality. As we say here in France, the more it takes, the better it is.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeroen1801:
dutch saying

...and as we say in dutch: "alles wat van ver komt, is lekker", meaning everything that comes from far overseas places tastes good!!! Since Tuxhero is coming from India, I'm sure one day, he will surprise us with a delightfull bite...aren't you Tux?

Sorry for the offtopic:D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] branzo:
now.. what an intresting motto! :°D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] SidneySHI:
I like this one,

This v2.0 is good, even though still can't turn off screen and turn off. I like this one. Thank you!:)
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imatrix:
tuxhero,

v0.3 is coming mat?

cheers,
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Imperium:
Last Activity: 29th October 2009 10:15 AM

Maybe he is on vacation?
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ferrarezi:
Nice work tuxhero! Keep on good work!
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] imtiyazee:
HOPELESS, USELESS.:cool:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vectress:
I can run android on my blackstone, but the wallpaper only is in the middle of the screen and in the videos the wallpaper is in full screen what can I do??
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Terrorhuhn:
Choose another wallpaper then it is fullscreen

Thats because the standard wallpaper is designed for the low resolution android

greets
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] vectress:
but in the videos i saw the original android wallpaper in full screen in the blackstone
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] FabianNL:
Then scale up the original wallpaper or find the same on a better resolution? :confused:
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] jeroen1801:
Never probably.....or maybe when you bought a new phone :D
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] RobRedbeard:
@Tuxhero:

Have you disassembled ddi.dll from a Blackstone?

Essentially, you need to disassemble:

DisplayInit()

DrvEnablePDEV()

DrvEnableSurface()

and

DrvPowerHandler()

All the binary for taking the display up and down, both initially and during power events is handled by these functions.

Rob
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ryukeima:
Awesome Job

I just wanted to say thanks, and that I am very impressed with the progress that has been made, and am looking forward to future progress. I know I would personally be willing to make a donation for a version that I can leave running on my phone, and I am sure many others would be too.
[Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development] ferrarezi:
Hey guys, we need to donate even without a stable release, we have to pay for the test releases as well, but the stable release may take longer to leave, that's an investment right? I believe that $ 5 is already better than nothing.