yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xyzavp:
Can we use "Ubuntu Mobile" in the future ? ubuntu.com/products/mobile

all features are compatible;

MIDs typically have the following features and attributes:

* Small size/form factor

* 4 to 7 inch touch screen

* Physical and/or virtual keyboard

* Wi-Fi, 3G, Bluetooth, GPS, WiMAX

* 2GB to 8GB Flash or disk storage, 256MB+ memory/512MB+ recommended

* OpenGL 3D

* USB, camera, head phone jack, speakers, microphone
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bbezja1:
thanks a lot for the updates NetRipper! this keeps the hype up ;)

and hearts and kisses for amazing work!! :p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kristoff123:
10 days to the tmobile launch here in the us. I am really hoping for a working android port, or at least the sure possibility of one, by then. Otherwise, this phone loses much of its appeal for me!

It could only be to HTC's benefit if one of their developers leaked a solution here (hint, hint) - because a phone like this deserves waaayyyy better than winmo!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] snipey:
If you don't want a winmo phone then get an Android one. Don't expect a working full android port for a loooong time. You would've known this if you bothered to read the thread.

Also, this is a developers thread. please stop with the rediculous demands and questions.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gauner1986:
Got the kernel booting.. Nice that fb works now.. Now i have to set up an initrd for testing..

Can anyone point me how to set up a very basic initrd with busybox or something?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NetRipper:
lol, it was already in git before i posted it here ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gauner1986:
I know.. Somehow i was in the wrong branch again :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bbezja1:
lol why would you want Android on this phone?! WM works like a charm!

i really dont see any reason not counting the Android overhype ofcourse
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jack E:
Because we can? ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Zepiii:
CAN THE SPAM BE STOPPED?

We really don't care if you don't like Android, we are here wanting Android, and if possible in DualBoot...

All the spam here will have the same consequences as usual, a mod will locked the post, and we will not be informed anymore of the work in progress...

So please, eat an apple each time you want to spam... And if you want to flame Android or the great job they are making, simply eat a banana, but don't post here, it's written "DEVELOPERS ONLY THREAD" so if you aren't a developer, you have nothing to post here... Just like me by the way ;) But I had to remember this to everyone, as spam/flame consequence are always the same "Thread Locked" :S
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
can somebody please boot this kernel http://www.linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/kernel/leo/Image-leo_14-03-2010

and tell me what happens?

thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fards:
someone has Ubuntu desktop 9.04 running on touchpro2 (rhodium) so yes in theory I think it's possible at some point.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zikson:
Stucks at "HaRET: Booting Linux ..." on my phone..

With:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
that's interesting. for me it freezes at a black screen after panel init.

something is different about my hardware or it is the radio rom or some settings in wince.

can somebody else please try?

it will be interesting to see if somebody else gets that black screen freeze.

thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Tigrouzen:
Ive run Ubuntu on Leo now need patch kernel for works or modified init in ubuntu.img

Ubuntu runing but wait for instruction after init

image mounted sdcard detected all its right for now, just need patch version.

I works for.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Seg2009:
Testing?

Hi guys.

I'd really like to get involved with the testing as this project progresses. It would also be a learning curve for me. Could dcordes or Netripper tell me what distro of linux you are using? I need to set a spare machine up to run linux to try and get involved with the testing as it is posted, to which I will give feed back of my findings.

P.S. I am not a developer or anything like that, just someone who would like to help out where possible.

Thanx

Seg
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stikz:
Nice work guy, you do amazing work i cant belive it ! :o NICE :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pspbirte:
Ok guys, im no dev but i have an idea... Shoot me if its total **** :D

As we know, the Touch Pro 2 now has an almost perfect version of android.. Basically everything works...

I'm thinking that we may be able to run the exact same copy of android on the HD2, if we ported the Touch Pro 2 official firmware to the HD2.. Haret apparently works very nice with it..

I know there are also hardware limitations, but this may or may not solve SOME issues :)

Love. pspbirte
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Cass67:
I had that same issue too until i gunzip'ed the initrd and left a plain old cpio file .. I got a black screen after panel init with latest commits using the initrd-netripper-busybox.cpio.gz ... not any more..

I now get to the point of /bin/sh starting :D Try a gunzip see what occurs ..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Tigrouzen:
Im on !!!!!!

Format ext2 second partition and put on ubuntu file

modified script initrd and default.txt change it to startup.txt

set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=10(important then no boot) rootfstype=ext2 init=/sbin/init

Now need to modifi on ubuntu right interrupt for Leo hardware

Its kernel panic after running kernel from ext2 /etc/init.d

return works

ps : gonna do howto when have a time
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bbezja1:
thanks for your time to making the post quoted here. but we really dont care what you think.

anyway i was trying to answer kristoff123. yes android on HD2 would be cool but its far from needed
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kholk:
Tried dcordes' kernel.

For me it freezes at Starting Linux in HaRET even using lpj=3055616....

I'm using my ROM, 576MB RAM enabled.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NetRipper:
HaRET shuts down windows mobile pretty violently, so any unfinished writes etc can cause problems. Although 999 out of 1000 times there's no problem, sometimes a file gets screwed over.

It's the first time for me to hear the theme is distorted though.

The most common problem (even if its very very rare) I see when booting linux, is that afterwards not any custom application can be started anymore. Only files cooked into the rom can be started, any other file errors out. Only solution is hard reset in that case.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] locutus-of-borg:
would be ok to do that but X10 now delayed until we dont no when could be late mach or even later. Think its due to software problems like satio so not releasing it on time to fix
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BrownGhost:
im so tired of HTC and MS

i want android on my HD2 :)

so ill be watching this forum post :)

thanks to the developers who are putting in the work on porting it :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vangrieg:
You do realize that these two statements contradict each other and therefore the whole thing makes absolutely no sense, don't you?

I feel like I'm watching a zombie movie.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kholk:
He only said that is tired of "HTC and MS", or ... simply...

HTC + MS = tired

but

HTC + GOOGLE = not anymore tired

:P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BrownGhost:
Thanks excatly bro :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
lol ... thats a good one.

the problem is not with htc phones its the windows ce bugs and ui problems. htc has always come up with very nice hardware support ( except for a glitch here and there :D eg. no TV output yet as promised ;) ) otherwise ...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vangrieg:
UI problems - true. Bugs? Look at the HD2 bugs discussed here, what do you see? OEM software and driver bugs. Maybe MS is to blame for the camera pink blob? Or broken HTC Volume Control in HTC Youtube? Or crappy OpenGL drivers? Or another stupidly quirky implementation of hardware keys breaking programs, which ignores OS guidelines and procedures?

Don't be silly. I know that bashing MS is the recent trend, and that 6.x is outdated, and that the grass is greener on the other side, but 99.9% of WM device problems are caused by OEMs, and HTC is the biggest contributor. And self-ported Android will be worse than that.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] madindehead:
Most of that list can easily be fixed with registry fixes. And some of them aren't even real bugs. People need to learn what a real software bug is.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vangrieg:
Yes, but my point is rather that they have little to do with the underlying OS. Many are caused by the OEM circumventing OS requirements and guidelines for no good reason, some are just a result of HTC engineers' lack of attention to details. Switching to another OS won't solve the problems, and Hero has plenty of them.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kholk:
most of you don't know what a real bug is.

HTC has tested their devices before sending them to the global market.

HTC engineers and lack of attention on HW details? LOL!!!!

What do u have to say on a 1GHz SnapDragon for running an OS that would run on a PXA250 @400MHz? are you crazy on your statements?

Really, HTC is doing a really hard and nearly perfect work, and if you don't like it, just don't buy it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jolbars:
Any other winmo phone vendor actually much much worse. HTC is doing a fine work, implementing some of the lacking features of underlaying OS from scratch. And thinking of usability details, thank you. I tried different platforms and different vendors and could say for sure - yay for htc!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vangrieg:
I didn't say anything about hardware. Their software suffers a lot from this. Don't get me wrong, I love what they did for WinMo (and Android, actually, devices without Sense are plain dull and ugly, and far less usable). I'm saying that their implementations are way less than perfect.

I like it better than any other device out there and I bought it. Which doesn't make me blind to the drawbacks.

I agree. I'm not in the HTC-bashing business here, and I'm not trying to say that they suck. The fact that other WinMo (or Android) manufacturers are worse doesn't make HTC perfect though. And it's not their fault so much, it's hard to expect a small company to make miracles - they don't have the resources for this.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
Wow from a posible 'android development thread" it has gone to a local chit chat corner...LOL
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
lol .. the junior members i tell u ...

rafy .. howz ur acer f1 .. can u make a dump of your partitions ... as the zimage and the initrd would be good to start with the development of android on leo.

and to the rest of the chit chatting gang. i know i like to flame winmo as well, but if we are focused to the topic thread at the moment, would be a better advise. ( though who the heck am i to give advise ;) ) but please if possible try to stick to the thread and do not post nonsense here.

please do not force me to close the thread until furthur notice.

cha.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
What zimage and initrd are you talking about?? im not working on linux for any kind of device lol...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] joker.mn:
maybe you guys ask xmoo, he has some new kind of device that runs normally runs linux and uses the same CPU as the leo does. maybe leaking of that thing could make a good starting point for development. hardware-wise there are some similarities.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Da9L:
i have never seen the zune hd os, but maybe that os is somewhat based on windows mobile 7? i mean maybe some parts from zune hd os is what we might see in windows mobile 7.. who knows!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dogtag:
WM 7

Why not just wait for wm7, MS developers conference somewhere in march with a demo of wm7, not much later some one like duttyroy will have the rom :P

With the current winds of change @ MS they might just surprise us.

If windows 7 is any indication! ( am an avid windows xp user, hate vista, I find 7 to be muchbetter then XP, But in all honesty, do have a fast PC (i7@4ghz 12gbram- 275gtx 2 TB diskspace :P just bragging)) Had android on my hd don't think its realy that good compared to wm, Wm is just bad in vinger control, and uses a lot of resources. visually android sucks donkey ass, just like WM(android does have more colours then 64K), and marketplace compleet useless concept (my opinion/for me) I just donwload 1 of the million programs for wince on the net, (without the control of MS google or Apple). Windows 7 will be a much larger inprovement from 6 beacuse of the current state of the market (a lot of competition, Apple Google Android-Chrome, Meamo, Symbian), When WM6 was release it was better than 5 but nu a huge improvement, but there where a few players on the smartphone market then. I'm betting my 5 cent's on MS with wm7. Another thing with (any google product) android is that it's intended for some thins else then a 'free' OS, it's essentialy part of there business strategy to obtain more information for there ads service, it's not really free u just lose more freedom en privacy, I for one want to keep my porn preference a secret :P

If you don't want to read all this^^^^ In short: WM 6.5 is decent (in combo with TFlo), MS has shown commitment in recent months and want to have a larger stake in de SmartPhone market. Knowing MS they'll prob. steal the best from Android/linux and OSx. End up with a great mix. :P

(sorry for the LONG Reply and a bit off topic) :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JUZZIE87:
damn, if you can get new Android Eclair on HD2 ill go and buy one right now and flash it.

Had windows on my previous diamond...crappy. Google have left windows mobile in tatters after releasing their OS. cant wait to see if Google will release an OS for PC :eek:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] flyte:
Please let me introduce, I was always a Iphone user but I sold it so I got the HD2 I have owned a QTEK 9100 with WM, My girlfriend bouth the htc hero. The HD2 looks great and the screen size is what I love most. But the htc hero got my attention it really is for me a better os, so I will be looking forward for a android rom update for the HD2. I’am willing to be a part of the project as wel technically as financially.

Hopping some people share the same thought

Sorry for my bad English

Greetings from Holland.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
this is awesome and very good news.

Netripper: there may be a driver issue with bluetooth and wifi in wince if android is not properly booted .. as it happened with the HD.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wouterg2:
@dcores: On my HD2 it boots till HTC LEO: init. The flash blinks, then i'm stuck with a black screen...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
there is absutely nothing in this kernel tha

t would write to nand. if you started some rootfs that does stuff you don't know this would explain things. you'd be the first person I've seen destroying there phone by boot.ing linux kernel. i'll take the image off nevertheless.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
ok did you boot your own build or some other recent kernels from markin or netripper for referrence?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
hello everyone ... a bounty of 200USD has been added to this thread from me, hope the progress on this project will heat up and we can soon see android on our hd2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] miguel.netreg:
Will HTC DESIRE help?

I hope HTC DESIRE will help when it comes out. is should have a pretty similar hardware spec.

How awesome would that be!!! :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gattaca714:
:eek:

I'd throw $25 into the mix right now. I'm sure others would also pay for it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wouterg2:
I did try your build from a few pages ago as it was a request. Seems to that it is not working, untill THAT point... (are you serious? yes, i am! :p)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cr2:
The problem is to find somebody with nexus/desire who is capable and willing to do

some hw tests.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kristoff123:
I would add $50 for a working android build on the hd2. is there a secure account to hold the money in until we have a fully working build?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 619619:
Just donate to the developer after the build it's released ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Tigrouzen:
Stop talking money there's mutch one people work on kernel to ported on Leo.

If they want money they ask, dont need to talk about it this is not your decision.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] simranjits:
Well it would be good for you , then you can go for some English classes .

Perhaps then we could finally understand you.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xaoc747:
Which thing you don't understand? He speak that no need to talk:"MONEY,MONEY,MONEY..." If one of developers who will porting Android to HD2 and who want a moneys, he says about that...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
This thread was really informative before this bounty got introduced again. Can someone please remove it so that I can read about progress rather than users *****ing about morals?

If you want a bounty, start your own thread.

edit: Back on topic. Thanks netripper & al on your hard work. I may check out the latest revision and give this Android stuff a go :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nixeus:
Congratulation for your work man !!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
Everyone read this: Do not talk about bounty in this thread, as tz said the bounty is not going to be given to a single person. If you guys need to add any bounty please do on your own. Do not post any bounties in this thread. It is solely for discussion. Thanks. The bounty is payback for the develors hard work.

Note: Simranjits i have read your comments before and now. If you cannot contribute then there os no need for you to be in this thread. Stop passing your useless commenys on others. Once again we are porting just for you all guys.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] skiwithpete:
No windows 7.

Linux, you are our only hope.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-htc-hd2-will-not-be-upgraded-to-windows-phone-7-serie/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hasnainhyder1:
Android On HD2

Basically Microsoft has screwed us. HTC wanted HD2 to have a WinPho 7 upgrade. Just imagine T-mobile is launching HTC HD2 now and its already outdated, WTF !

HTC saved Microsoft's ass (Marketshare) by launching HD2 when they needed it the most, and in return Microsoft has stabbed HTC in the back. The loyal Microsoft consumers have been betrayed...

HD2 is a glorious piece of Hardware that could have been originally based on Android but HTC was loyal to its long time partner Microsoft (remember HTC CEO interview?)

There is no problem of five buttons of HD2 instead of three, It is in fact just the greed of Microsoft that is keeping us from having an upgrade. How much more money do you want Microsoft???

HTC it is our request to you to take matters into your hand, release an official Android ROM for HD2 (its the Best and right thing to do !) or at least help these hardworking developers somehow in achieving this goal.

Please Don't worry HTC, millions will buy your Supersonic, Just be loyal to your consumers, they will buy many more handsets from you in their lives.

To personally support Android on HTC HD2, I will provide 200$ to the team who ports the Android.

I request all others to encourage the HD2 Android development team !

We must become a Force and do the unthinkable !

Godspeed
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kholk:
I've played a bit with all, and I've reached a conclusion.

Remember the file corruption problems that I've experienced yesterday? It's all related to the Radio ROM.

Using a Radio ROM that enables 576MB RAM, the Linux kernel doesn't work correctly: apart from random file corruptions, I've noticed that using a 448MB RAM Radio I can get to the black screen when booting Linux, but when using the 576MB RAM enabled Radio the kernel freezes at the initialization of the framebuffer.

Unfortunately, my ROM isn't compatible with 448MB RAM Radios, so I have to cook a ROM with a XIP that supports 448MB RAM Radios for having a device that is able to work correctly in WiMo and that can boot Linux, so... at least for now, use a 448MB Radio for testing Linux.

Anyway, I've seen that a guy has booted Linux and busybox works for him. Now I have a question. HOW?!?!?

Even if I use a 448MB RAM Radio I can only see a black screen after the kernel boot.

I'm using the 14/03 netripper's initrd.

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NetRipper:
I'm using the 2.08 radio rom, which is also "576MB enabled". No such problems here... maybe there is another common factor?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
kholk,

may I conclude you are experiencing the same black screen problem as me and others, even with different radio versions?

did anybody boot a build from today?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Tigrouzen:
Try compile this way http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=631216 or try other Rom kichen.

Ive got same radio Netripper i try with no 578mo trick and tell you what about.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kholk:
Really strange thing...

When I've experienced these problems I was using 2.10 XIP and 2.08 radio.. Anyway, now I'm using 1.66 XIP and 2.06 radio, 448MB RAM, and I'm not experiencing these problems anymore.

The latest thing that I see when booting linux (latest kernel, built today) is black screen, after a FAST blue blink. And in the last post I'm referring to this:

It seems that he can start sh :)

EDIT: if someone wants to try the latest kernel build, you can download it HERE (slow download, hosted on my home server.. and my connection is really ****ty in upload :) )

P.S.: I'm available for giving an autobuild service, I only need a place to upload the compiled kernels :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Limited69:
the absolute truth... :(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Shrekkie:
Can't wait to get Android on my HD2 :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
very very well said !!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zikson:
I have some free space :) PM me for more info..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ihadabadname:
Who ever makes this possible can count on an addition $75 from me
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
dont talk about any bounty's in the thread. this thread is solely for discussion purposes.