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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mightymn:
one thing's for sure, we don't wanna flash our HD2s with android yet (probably never). the first step is to actually get it to run with haret.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Crash1983:
Never say never, but yes, haret is the first step to get it running.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nikc0069:
Amen to that. As it simply wouldn't work :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
I just created a virtual android machine on Win7. Android really rocks !

But in the emulator there's no way to specify existing images files to boot.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Crash1983:
can you tell me why it shouldn't work?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] drewX2:
Setting up a virtual machine, downloading, and compiling all the android source doesnt require much work (google gives an entire walkthrough).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nikc0069:
I know how to do that but if anyone has Linux already its much quicker.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] drewX2:
I have no clue what the next step is after building android ;p

Edit: Found this - http://source.android.com/documentation/building-for-dream

I wonder what those proprietary files are from HTC
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] avathar behemoth:
some other people have made linux/android images for other phones kaiser/diamond etc one of them probably has a hd2 or will get one!

even the pharos (my lovely old phone) had a partially working android on it (was way faster then wm, but no sound) we did it using haret and with a zimage and virtual file structure (so you could save things and put new progs on it) something like that would be great on hd2. cus... i kinda like my wm/sense on it!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NetRipper:
Sweet, thanks. Been waiting for this code. Was stuck on the Codeaurora qsd8x50 git tree and only could get passed the decompression routine before it would hang.

Btw, for the other hackers, here's where we try to keep tech info about the leo:

http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jesterdroid:
bounty to be paid to HD2 android port?!?!?

I heard about it on twitter that Alldroid.org alone will donate $200 above what anyone else donates to a bounty that is set for whoever can port over to the HD2... check it out! "I Definitely could use the cash"

http://alldroid.org/viewtopic.php?f=112&t=1281

Jester.. :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nikc0069:
Excellent, someone who knows what they are doing. Our efforts probably look a bit amateur in comparison. But I've got an HD2 and a bit of technical know how if I can help.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ragdoll20:
Thats great! get to work people! Im rooting for ya!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chribruu:
Bounties on these android projects isn't really a good idea. At least you can't just give all the cash to the first guy who makes it boot, as there are so many people responsible for it to work on our winmo-devices.

Anyway, going to watch this thread with great interest, and the resources netripper pointed to. Got it running on my Touch Pro and Diamond, so I'm betting it'll work on the Leo too after some development.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] willbread:
i don't know anything about dev so is this method can help you to create a zimage ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nikc0069:
that's about it. i just dont have a linux distro. if someone can use tue source in the git tree to compile a zimage that would be great
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
I'm using Karmic Koala. I try to do that today but I'm at work :s
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cruzzmz:
which git tree r u referring to
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
This one http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.29-nexusone

But I can't do anything at work, firewall blocks git.

This evening at home ... If nobody did it before !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorghd2:
Petition?

Has anyone considered creating a petition to get Android on our HD2's? If we get a considerable amount of supporters, HTC might consider doing this for us. B/c all of you know WM just messes up this phone completely. idk, I think it might be worth a try.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Crash1983:
htc has already said, that they want to support win mobile with this device. No Android for hd2 by htc!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beefheart:
A company like HTC wouldn't wipe their arse with it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dagrim1:
Not a chance I think, and rightly so... I mean, you know what you buy right? I bought this phone KNOWING it has WM on it (and I totally disagree with WM messing it up...).

If you wanted android you should've bought another phone.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nikc0069:
I'd do it myself but I don't have linux atm as I've said. Maybe I should get it back.

I'm amazed by the dedication in this thread. Most posters are relatively new/low post counters, like myself, but we seem to be getting somewhere.

Would be nice if some of the more heavyweight android people on the forum would weigh in and give us a hand, but I'm not holding out hope for that now.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
You know, I'm a Android Beginner ...

Imagine this evening I compile Nexus' sources ... Then, we'll only be able to boot from haret ...

How do we do create a ROM ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chris5932:
Well, lets see first IF it boots and how fine it works ?!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thedalmeny:
I wondered when some guys would come along to give this a go :).

It would be nice to have an Andriod install on my HD2, not because i don't like Windows Mobile.. But because i'd like the option, so kudos to the fellas becoming involved.

I'd imagine the HTC Bravo would also bring along things which would make the port easier, although still not a simple task.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] srw985:
As someone new to HTC phones, I'm just wondering if these android projects ever develop rom's suitable for day to day use (everything works, as if i bought the phone as a native android device) or if it would just be something to play around with?

Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] marra2:
I'd just like to play around with android to see what its like !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chribruu:
Not all of them, but some are progressing fantastically. Raphael/diamond-project is getting close (XDANDROID) for instance.

Android on the Leo would be fun, but it seems like it's a lot of work even if the hardware of the android source is similar. Luckily the guys working with this get a fix from getting these things up and running. To the benefit of all of us :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dark Fire:
Android has been usable on the Touch Diamond for quite a while (still a bit buggy and not everything works, but the core features and, most importantly, power management are fine). I've switched to Android on my Touch Diamond now - it'll probably eventually come quite close to working perfectly.

It's highly likely that Android will be ported to the HD2 - couple that with other options of WM6.5+Sense and WM7, and the HD2 is potentially the most awesome device ever.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nex7er:
I could compile that for you all, but all it would do, if it would work (could be using a different Snapdragon core), is enable HaReT to run a few lines until it wants to throw the phone into Android, in which case, it won't let you because of the screen.

No point until someone with driver-knowledge shoots his load into this project.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nikc0069:
any news on the zimage?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nikc0069:
i would like to see that load shot
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] srw985:
Is it at all possible that the many of the Nexus One's components are the same as used in the HD2?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] terminal 7:
I love this, this gives us hope, ' potentially the most awesome device ever '

im sure its just a matter of time, i cant wait, but i think we need to keep perspective, its taken ages for the blackstone android project to reach the usable state it has now reached.

=====peace=====
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] simranjits:
HD2 is the perfect device to have android on , hopefully we can do it in a much shorter time with the knowledge learnt from all the previous attempts.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mracket:
Maybe a silly question, but are there actually someone working on it? I have read almost the whole post, but I can't seem to find anyone saying they are working on this project. It sounds really interesting and I would definently give it a try if it was to be done :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Crash1983:
I bought a HD2 yesterday. Okay...WM 6.5 is ******** witha capacitive screen. Let's see what is first on our devices: WM7 or Android :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
Netripper is having a progress on and on .. for anyone interested in development please do not forget to join #htc-linux channel on chat.freenode.net server on irc. our combined efforts will bring fruit ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nikc0069:
Surely its worth compiling th zImage and trying it in Haret?

If it doesn't work, then we play with settings. Surely with much the same hardware, a dump of the passion/nexus1 image would include most of the relevant drivers. I think the nexus has the same resolution and pixel density as the hd2 screen, just is smaller.

I think we will get this done much quicker than other devices due to the fact that there are a whole raft of similarities between the intended hardware and the hardware we are trying to run it on.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vodanhdaisu:
I'm expecting to see Android running on HD2. Nexus one's hardware is most similar to HD2, why not we are able to enjoy Android on our HD2 :?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] snahmed:
Could any of the devs comment on this maybe some sort of time frame for beta testing alpha testing even
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
time fram hebehe 1 day to 1 month. Please anyone q

who thinkz that the nexus and hd2 has the same hardware its not. Even the processor instructions and IRQ'Ss are difgerent though they can be found out with haret it is still very feasible to conclude anything yet.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vodanhdaisu:
i think we would have to wait untill HTC Bravo be released becoz HTC Bravo is a HTC-owned version of Nexus1 which is made for Google only. Probably it would be easier for the experters here would find something from HTC Bravo, instead of Nexus1, to port to HTC HD2.

Still keeping patient :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
we can port it through nexus, no need to longate and wait till bravo to come out.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] depl0y:
Ok, I am looking forward to using Android on my HD2 too, it sounds fantastic to actually have a choice in OS for your mobile phone. Only reading the thread, makes me think we wont get it done this way.

First of all. If phones have the same specs, it doesnt mean their hardware is the same. It can have different controllers, chipsets etc. Also, they both use the Snapdragon CPU, but that doesnt guarantee that the rest of the chips is the same as the Nexus ONE. Also, just 'guessing' which values should be stored in your startup scripts, is just undoable, there are too many combinations of that and we should actually find someone who can explain what we need and what we need to find out.

Using Haret will get the OS running sooner, because it uses the initialized drivers of the Windows Mobile OS, but a flashable Android image is just SO far away that its not even interesting to wait for it (the OS will be outdated by then, just like your phone).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] erikvario:
maybe there are some people that open de nexus one.

and take a look at the hardware.

than you know the chips.

erik
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] depl0y:
Indeed. I am currently trying to get my hands on a Nexus One. But havent been very succesful yet.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DaniLoveSky:
Somebody did it already.

The disassembly process:

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-One/1654/1

and the photos of all its internals:

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-One/1654/2

Does the chipset look the same as in HD2?

I do not have HD2 yet, so cannot check (but thinking of getting it as soon as there is a sign of Android running)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] joker.mn:
can anyone tell me:

-if nexus has the same hardware

-an even better display

-is much cheaper

-is currently available

-is from htc, too

-and runs android

-> why do people want android on HD2 and even wait for that to happen until they buy the HD2?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DaniLoveSky:
Personally I do not like the look of Nexus - the shape and the trackball. Also I need a bigger screen, the one of HD2. Price is not an issue for me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mightymn:
this is exactly what's beyond my understanding :D

The only differences are maybe HD2's better design and larger screen
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DigitalLF:
well... my iphone contract ends tomorrow so im going for a android and i like the looks from hd2 and i need the screen.

and that little thing i can't pay for a nexus its around 900USD here with all the costs included....

instead i can get the hd2 for around 10USD/month from my service provider...

oh and that little thing i can't even buy a N1 here....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] willbread:
i think exactly the same.

HD2 has the perfect hardware but the OS ...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dark Fire:
The extra LED for the camera flash has to count for something too! The HD2 looks far more awesome than the Nexus One.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ZeuBug:
Did you see that:

http://www.pointgphone.com/installer-android-eclair-htc-kaiser-10393

http://translate.google.fr/translat...r-android-eclair-htc-kaiser-10393&sl=fr&tl=en
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TEAM17:
Damn, I sold my Kayser for the HD2 :mad:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Krizz1990:
Is it possible that this also works on hd 2 ? Why should people work for an old phone like the Kaiser and not for the hd 2 ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DaniLoveSky:
No, it will not work on HD2, for sure.

Maybe because they have that phone and not HD2? :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] srw985:
What would the difference be (to the end user) between Haret and flashable Android?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SGTDavePwnage:
I understand that this thread has now been renamed to a discussion about running android on the HD2, but could we please try to keep to the point.

No offence but if members are just asking questions (which have already been asked) that in no way forward the project of getting Android onto the device, shouldnt they be asking them in the General section?

Please could we try to get back on track and avoid the random posts just filling up this thread?

:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NetRipper:
HaRET is a boot loader that works from Windows Mobile. So with HaRET, you first boot into Windows Mobile, and fire up a .exe that loads linux/android. If it's flashed, you start your phone and it directly boots into android. This is not doable for development though.

Besides, HaRET is a vital tool. The RET is an acronym for Reverse Engineering Tool. It allows developers/hackers to dump memory, check memory changes, etc.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nex7er:
Both the HD2 and the N1 use QSD8250. Just a headsup for anyone remotely trying to pry open this can of whoopass...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shata:
I would totaly buy this HD2 if someone made Android rom sense i cant buy the nexus one with discount on t-mobile cause of family plan.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vodanhdaisu:
Android 2.0 is already running smoothly on HD1, why not yet able to run on HD2?

You can see this image:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] masi0:
does it run through haret or its flashed into the device directly?

is android 100% working on HD1?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] robertolm:
hd1 hardware is over 512 Mhz procesor and the hd2 run over 1G .... has diferent chip, diferent radio chips, etc,

I change from hd to hd2 and some application doesn't works (PowerRadio).

The WM works over very much hardware diferent. This perfect to custonize.

The ipone works ... only on 1 or 2 hardware diferent (ipone and ipod). This the razons that was so fluid... the app only runs on 1 hardware.

The android need that his kernel manage all the hardware....

The nexus will run an android with similar processor .... this is the best choose to pick up the perfect kernel to put into our HD2.

buy.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nex7er:
Because that kernel and whatever else, was crafted for the HD1. The HD2 doesn't even share a single component with the HD1, so none of it would work (iirc).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] willbread:
After 33 pages in this thread, is there really a hope to have it on HD2 ? I mean, before HD2 is obsolet
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vodanhdaisu:
My HD1 running through haret. You can follow the guide here if u have a HD1 also:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=601751
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorghd2:
we don't care about your HD1...as said earlier, can we stop having random posts?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aurash:
I think the main contributors to this thread should open a new one for this topic, and start the first few posts with the resources used so far and the tested methods and their results. And inform people that the new thread is for development contributions and discussions only, for general hd2 android discussions post in this forum

This will just make it easier for developers only just joining the discussion to understand the progress so far and what page your playing from. It will also hopefully remove the pointless comments.

I would start the new thread myself but being a noob I wouldn't want to offend if the admins didn't like that sort of thing.

Unless someone wants to give me the green light.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vodanhdaisu:
it should be the best if there is some experter here (ex: Laurentius, or Miri... LOL) using HD2 and be interesting in Android running on HD2 also. They would know where to start and explain what should do. :)

Regard

Vodanh
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] skycamefalling:
Just buy an Android-phone. It's cheaper than the HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jtothar:
Im currently using the nexus one, very similar hardware specs to the HD2. Is it possible that a ROM dump from the Nexus one could be cooked into a useable rom to flashed to the HD2? Or is this an insane question?

They both have the same processor and the N1 is running android 2.1.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] twister_65:
Google has released the 2.1 SDK.

http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ragdoll20:
Please make a sticky of this thread :D

Also: is there ANYBODY working on this yet?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SGTDavePwnage:
Please DONT make this thread a sticky.

I understand that we all want Android on the HD2, but this thread of 340+ posts of uslessness will in no way help the developers discuss the project.

A new thread needs opening for DEV's only to discuss the matter.

Developers spend free time working on these things and can do without having to read hundreds of irrelavent posts.

If anything this thread should be moved to the general section!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TEAM17:
This thread is dying... We need to summarize important information in a new thread.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
Maybe this thread will die ...

! BUT NOT ANDROID ON OUR HD2/LEO !

http://www.qdppc.com/viewthread.php?tid=1344&extra=&page=1

Let's work !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Krizz1990:
Hey Clem71

I don´t understand chinese :P, can you plz tell us what they write on that page ? Is that a working haret for the htc hd 2 ?

Greetz
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jonolo:
http://translate.google.com/transla...ead.php?tid=1344&extra=&page=1&sl=zh-CN&tl=en
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nex7er:
7 pages and only this link?

Well, about to check it out...

PS: http://www.multiupload.com/OFDRUYUKIV for those who doesn't understand Chinese.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
Hi,

Google translate is your friend ! I've registered onto their forum and downloaded the archive.

It seems to be a working version of haret, running on HD2.

It works with Android 2.01 (not the last one...).

My first test failed, again with a black screen.

I'm formatting my SD card and I make a new try ...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nex7er:
Well, keep us posted. Download is going slow. 8 minutes ._. Will notify when things get down. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
F$cking black screen !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Krizz1990:
Can you plt upload the haret from the chinese page ? I wanna try but i don´t want to sign in that forum, thanx man
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
Here is the haret.exe.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Krizz1990:
.... it doesn´t work, i have a black screen with red points -.-
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SGTDavePwnage:
Does not work......

PLEASE can people stop posting CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This thread so needs to be closed
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nex7er:
First of all, wrong mtype.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
But does anybody know what's the T8585's MTYPE ?!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nex7er:
2524 is Leo's mtype. Someone work with the Nexus Ones software, and voila... I guess? Won't work with just that mtype, however.

2508 might be correct, as well.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CleM71:
Ok thanks.

Both give me a black screen.

I removed the msmts_calib in the default.txt booscript, same thing !

Tomorrow is another day ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nex7er:
Well, someone needs to compile a good kernel and whatever else. I have no idea about this, since it's not my field, so... If I had someone helping me from far away (remote admin?), it would go faster, seeing as none of the devs have an HD2.