yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
I agree with you to a certain extent, but I'm not sure a dual led flash will help much. You'll still need anything your taking a pic of not to move a muscle!! Also, I know a lot of people rave about the snapdragon, which I admit is excellent, but this was developed 2 years ago. I just don't see enough IMO to make me want to go out and buy it, especially now that a lot of available roms are already using similar/same builds
[Touch HD General] barbapappa_86:
I can agree with you about the camera. I often take pictures when its not moving sort of speach.. I think the dual led will help me a little bit.

The biggest thing here for me is the build quality of the device. I´m very picky about the quality, and the HD´s isnt that good. I first thought that i just was mine, but after returning it twice and googlin i found out that thats not the case.. Wery anoying for me.
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
So my point is why jump to the HD2? No need to rush. There's nothing that really jumps out at me! Better to wait a couple months as no doubt they'll be another HTC device out.
[Touch HD General] barbapappa_86:
For me its mostly the build quality. And i have been dissapointed by the HD a long time. HD 2 is what i wanted in the begining. So for me this is a good choise, but i can se that many may choose to not do a "upgrade". Sure, if HTC presents a better phone, lets say next month, then i will wait.
[Touch HD General] Guru996:
Anyone from Orange UK know of release date for HD2?

Just looking on O's coming soon phones, there's no mention of the HD2 at all.

Any idea of when it's gonna be available?

Thanks

:confused:
[Touch HD General] barbapappa_86:
Next month in Sweden. So it would be ready soon for O2 i guess..
[Touch HD General] ujkadusko:
Switching from HD to HD2...I am heavy user of iGO8 and according to some videos it is lightening quick with iGO8 complicated menys...the only problem is that I can not wait until 11th november since I allready sold my HD!
[Touch HD General] Rizlo:
Er, no. Same amount of pixels, but much bigger viewing area. Consider how insanely high is pixel density on your HD, add .5" and it still looks great, and more readable at the same time. I think it's a very good thing.
[Touch HD General] Rizlo:
Is there a video of iGo8 running on the HD2? I couldn't find any but I'd love to see that.
[Touch HD General] Ogredani:
I will stick with my Touch HD since the HD2 has some disadvantages compared to the HD and some new features aren't simply enough to make me swap.

Why I will stick with the HD:

It has a better format. HD2 is HUGE! I see no need for a bigger display with the same pixel resolution. You still get 480*800 pixels and with smaller screen the image appears more resolved.

It may very well run on Manila 2.5 with a cooked WM 6.5 ROM (yet slower, but not slower than a typical ROM of WM 6.1)

The graphic performance is not that revolutionary with the HD2 as you might expect.

The HD has a 1350mAh mAh battery...and the HD2 has 1230 mAh battery! What the...?

I kind of like the stylus and I can jot down quick notes with it.

What I will require from a HD sequel in order to replace my current HD:

Good camera flash.

nVidia Tegra or similar.

An OS with more accessible widgets. Manila 2.6 is approaching this, but Android is way ahead.

OLED screen, OLED screen and OLED screen!

No big trade-offs!

Why someone would change to HD2:

It's faster obviously (CPU+RAM).

It has a capacitive screen which provides a number of advantages, such as:

Fast responsiveness since the screen reacts from the electrons in your finger before it actually touches the screen, as opposed to resistive screens where you have to offset the surface in order for the screen to detect a tap.

Multi-touch, pinching

It has a camera flash.

Given the above, the HD still does the job for me. The HD2 can't offer enough to motivate me changing phone. And if I move on to a capacitive screen, then it should be on a OS that is developed for multitouch! WM 6.5 and Manila has still a lot to learn about finger friendliness.
[Touch HD General] henrik.dk:
Not really true. For surfing, it is still not readable to read a whole page.

For other stuff, it is already readable I would say.
[Touch HD General] dataSaMm:
Hi All,

I will wait for Nvidia Tegra: http://www.nvidia.com/page/handheld.html, smooth graphic is a must.

I prefer a front camera rather than a back one, because I take snaps of me and friends so would like to see the shot before hand. For me, it would be great to have the 5mp in the front and the other low quality one in the back.

I won't move to HD2, I would wait for WM7.... also another reason being that HTC haven't ironed out the current issues with the HD that everyone are experiencing.

I would like to have faster charging time, other words have your mobile fully charged in 5-10 minutes and you can use it all day like a normal phone.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...le-phone-battery-charged-just-10-seconds.html but I don't think that will happen any time soon.

What else? Stylus is useful, it's good to have it, but please more secure so it doesn't fall out.

Calendar, I can only see today and tomorrow in the touch flo, I would like to able to pick 5 or 10 future appointments etc, would be nice to edit the appointment straight in the touch flo.

Ringtones, why can't I just select a tone and specify it to a reminder, sms, alarm? That should be a default option. For example, I pick a song, and then a menu comes with options: 10sec, 20sec full track etc. I select 10 seconds, and then I select what I want it for, and for 10 seconds it's for the sms. I might later pick another track, 20 seconds for a reminder. To continue, if I select the silent profile, everything goes silent (fair enough) but maybe I want to have a beep.mp3 ringtone left behind and this is not possible.

These are just some of the things I would like to see in WM7 in the future :)
[Touch HD General] goldsfool:
I am in absolute awe with the HD2, but unless it's subsidized through att there's no way I'm getting it. Already spent too much on the HD and don't think I can get back enough by selling it to be worth getting the HD2.

Like many others, I have a hard time believing it'll be easy to use without a stylus...too many small buttons to press even though it's supposed to be more finger friendly. Also, I think the HD's flat face looks better than the HD2's face with awkward looking buttons.

But still, the HD2 is one awesome phone and if I didn't have the HD, I'd definitely get it. :p
[Touch HD General] sbirsen:
Having used the HD2 for 2 days, I was pretty impressed by the speed you can scroll around in the menu. The unresponsiveness of my HD when browsing etc was one of the annoying things which I didn't like. The other was not being able to read pdfs & ebooks. The HD2 shows improvement in both areas. (I couldn't care less about video calls, never use it).

The HD2 loads pages a lot faster, don't know if thisis down to the CPU or IE.

So I sold my HD on ebay (for a pretty good price I have to say). Still the depreciation in one year is huge - around 37%. But I thought the longer I wait, the less I'll get for it.

Now I have time until the 11th Nov to decide if I'll splash out that sort of money on the HD2.

Are the hardware requirements for WM7 going to be completely different from what we have today ? Doesn't anyone think that HTC might make available an upgrade for the HD2 in the future ?
[Touch HD General] Guru996:
I was talkin about Orange UK not O2 - any ideas on that?

Other threads are saying that Orange UK are NOT going to have it? !

Is this true? :eek:
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
This does appear to be true. Not sure if this would be a permanent thing, buty so far Orange have stated they will not be selling the HD2
[Touch HD General] Behold:
I would say orange are not going to bring a comparitive phone to the iphone untill sales of it dwindle. This is there new flagship and they want nothing similar in anyway.

And before you say it i know WinMo is nothing like the iPhone but 90% of users have no idea of that.
[Touch HD General] dataSaMm:
If we look at the history, HTC Touch HD still haven't got a decent upgrade or fixed their wm6.1 rom.

So an upgrade for HD2 when WM7 is out will be realistic? Perhaps by that time there will be HD3 with WM7 and everyone will forget the HD2.
[Touch HD General] tkolev:
Hopefuly it will be with nVidia and we will all forget about the Qualcomm driver 'issue' (or is there an 'issue' when there are no drivers ;) )
[Touch HD General] smeddy:
My big issue is the Quaalcom drivers. Until then I'm not upgrading my HD, or will look to other manufacturers before HTC (even tho I love their phones)

To the poster talking about e-books, make sure you check out Alreader - a fantastic reader which I'm pretty addicted to!
[Touch HD General] XdaIIs:
I have pre-orderd one (I'm still using an old XDA2s)

Here is a new Walkthrough video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li_XvocF_jY

The phone (so I've been told) should arrive sometime the 1st week of november (I'm in the Netherlands)... To bad that I'm going to be in NY till the 3rd week of november.

This is one of the times I wished that I was not in NY..
[Touch HD General] smeddy:
Have you tried this?

http://www.ppc4all.com/appdetail.php?id=654
[Touch HD General] dosari666:
Usually its a huge upgrade from one hTC to another!

This time its different, not worth the upgrade at all..

Once cooked ROMS (6.5/Manila 2.5/2.6) are ready and reached the stock ones, the HD will stay in its killing state through 2010..

A Real Upgrade to add on HD2:

1- 8.1 MP camera

2- Better battery, although this might be good for new CPUs.

3- Front Camera

4- Stereo Speakers

- When you see the upgrade from Diamond 1 to the HD it was an obvious upgrade in 5 or 6 months period..

- The HD2 after a year from the HD should have better features for future capabilities.. 1 year period After the HD with no convincing upgrades..
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
You forgot the all important drivers.......essential for an upgrade!!!
[Touch HD General] BazzerBazzer:
Screen and cost a problem and adding to land fill.

I had my HD from Feb this year.HD2 as a bigger screen but the same resolution.No killer apps on the phone.

Only change if Orange have phone and its a free upgrade with no monthly cost.

Now it will be a different story with the HD3. Windows 7 with proper HD High Def screen. E book reader inbuilt. Full weather proof. Titanium case. Micro HD.

12mb camera with micro flash HD Video. Only dreaming.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] djtody:
Hi

ive got a problem whereby my phone stops recognising my simcard and i can't

get it to recognise it unlless i hard reset

the hard reset works for about 3-4 hours and then it stops recognising it.

( during the 3-4 hours i don't move the phone just so it HOPEFULLY proves it isn't hardware.

Any Ideas

thanks ben

( it is on 02 and i have tryed other 02 cards and an orrange card )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] j101399j:
I know this has been covered a few times and can be found easily using the search...

Most liklely it is hardware, as the ROM does not really ever affect that. One thing to try is when you open the sim card door, there is a metal bar that goes over the card and holds it in place. Remove the card and press down on the tab untill it touches the golden tabs below it. Then put the card in. This should put pressure on the card and keep it connected. If that does not work, you may need to replaced the sim card reader
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DzaztrBUSE:
Hardware definitely. Had the same problem and luuckily had extra parts. Swapped it out and works like a charm now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] osirisHTC:
Swapped what out ?

The SIM card reader ?

Where would I get one ?

Who would install it ?

I have this issue and I want to go back to my TyTN II.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ARBSM:
I wouldn't count too much on the hardware. When i got my Kaiser yesterday (slightly used) it recognised every simcard i had in store, except my own, which i wanted to use. Simcard in different phone (a soaked Herald, but somehow sometimes working) told me the sim was fine. So i transferred my contract to a out-of-the-box simcard from KPN-NL, and that one somehow worked. I didn't really bother to have another thought about it, but is it a known hardware issue then?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] plbelanger:
Just curious, surely it cannot take this long for HTC to port everything over from 1.5 to 1.6.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] vd3:
Considering that the HTC Tattoo is running 1.6, SenseUI, and has already been released, it is ridiculous indeed.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] marazi:
agree...!!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] RaptorRVL:
Well, some have said it before and might be interesting. It could be (because of other devices etc) HTC is waiting for a Hero update until Eclair is there. And apparantly some devices with Eclair should come out in the next two months, so who knows...

Hope it's not going to be the same like the WM devices. And HTC wants us to buy a new device with Eclair on it...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] plbelanger:
Motorola Droid has 2.0 and is coming early November afaik and being officially announced Oct. 30
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] RaptorRVL:
Yeah, but I always give them a few months to actually release the thing :D

But I am kinda hoping they will give us 2.0 and skip 1.6. Just because I wonder how long it will take before we get 2.0 once it's out :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] benlc:
Let's hope...

It'd be really great to have 2.0 before 2010 (even if I really DON'T think so...)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] cambria83:
Yeah I requested via twitter that they skip 1.6 in favour of a 2.0 release on time. I don't who is in charge of their twitter, and I know it probably won't help but I like to think it got noticed :(

An update to 2.0 would be a ot more significant in my eyes.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] plbelanger:
The Droid event is actually October 28th...was just posted on Engadget
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] plbelanger:
Yeah, but wasn't there just 2 security fixes google patched? I would think we should get them too.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] foxmeister:
I'll believe it when I see it, given that the 2.0 SDK has not been rolled out yet! That's not to say it won't happen, just that I'm very sceptical!

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nadeemhasnaat:
What i dont understand is that HTC already has Hero's SENSE UI working on 1.6 ( Tattoo ) then whats taking em so God Damn long to push it out ...

One more thing ... Why should we skip 1.6 for 2.0 ? changes or no changes i would want each and every update ( be it miniscule ) to be sent to HTC's Flagship android device... besides all they have to do is put it on their website in the stupid RUU format... and a month or a week or two later roll out 2.0 in similar fashion ....

Now is that too much to ask ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] foxmeister:
It's possible that the version of Sense UI on the Tattoo has only been coded for its QVGA screen, and that they need to port it "properly" to the Hero.

Regards,

Dave
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] And/Or:
My original Tilt had a very useful feature - when you clicked on a call in Call History it would show any other activity from that number. In my AT&T Tilt 2, clicking on a number immediately dials it without this intervening screen. Any ideas about how to retrieve this function?

Thanks,

And/Or
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] SoapDoctor:
To the right of the name is a rolodex looking card. Clicking that will give you more info.

What I'd like to know is how to find out what time the call was. If it's older than a day it just shows me a date not the time. Nevermind that's on the card too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] And/Or:
Thanks! I thought I was doing that but I must have been missing the card - I also wouldn't mind seeing the time of the call -
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oddcrap:
I can't seem to find a flash nbh of the stock rom that came with my att tilt2. I need to send it to ATT for warranty work, but I can't send it with this energy rom. Any ideas? :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SoberGuy:
Search. I know, it's so common to put that out there, but really, stock AT&T ROM is being discussed in so many threads right now...

Not available yet. You're screwed for the moment.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
...dude, really? There are already a few threads asking about this and multiple posts about it. Please search, and someone close the thread.

No one has successfully extracted it as of earlier today. People are working on it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oddcrap:
Alright thanks. I appreciate it, I saw the other thread of 11 pages but there are dumps and files everywhere; I just don't know what to do with them :(

The other thread has 11 pages of dump files in 400mb extractions. There should be one stock thread for the stock ROM, it shouldn't be closed. I'm just trying to make it easier for users in my situation. :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] Neutron1998:
I didn't see anything in the 30 day return policy about it having to have the stock firmware....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
if you would have read the pages, you would have seen that that point was brought up and people are currently working on trying to get the stock ROM in that thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] oddcrap:
So it can have a custom ROM on it to be returned to the store?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] SoberGuy:
Well, if it isn't packaged as an .nbh with a CustomRUU.... Nothing you can do with them!

Seriously? This thread makes it easier to find than the other threadS (yes, notice the capital S) that also have STOCK AT&T ROM in the title? Really? Your is more special for some reason?

I'm not trying to be mean here, man, but come on. You found the other thread and you couldn't even have asked in there "Hey, is this ready to be flashed?" ???
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] iceman4357:
I think someone jsut did it. It doesnt include the stock radio or stock welcome screen, but its a start:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4786572#post4786572
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] sleonard:
This is why you

always

get the stock ROM

before

you install HardSPL and flash a custom ROM.

S
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vikramdhani:
Look like no one is able to get the stock rom extracted properly :( waiting for it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] moderateinny:
This worked for me http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4786572#post4786572
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vikramdhani:
Thanks but the complete rom has not be extracted as of now since i want to return my phone so i need the complete rom
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] moderateinny:
Understood - you want the signed ROM, radio, SPL, etc. to return the phone. Sorry.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] vikramdhani:
i think i will be able to do the spl once i have to stock rom flash on the phone,since spl is the last thing you do on your phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Duplicate of the other ATT Stock ROM threads.

Closing this one.

Dave
[General Topics] Dexter_nlb:
Am i blinded by names, or is the HTC Tatto missing on the list of phones available and has a thread dedicated to this model?
[G1 General] crpercodani:
Ok people, my fellow Wreckers have been temp banned for 2 weeks. This is an outrage and I need your help, if your cool and understand why we do what we do then PM some mods. If not then at least cast your vote in the poll.

Most of you know we aren't just some assholes who come here to cause trouble, many of us have probably helped you or at least tried. We do our thing for comedic value, and to lighten up the forum. If someone comes here acting immature or not searching and using the proper channels to fix a problem, we let them know and then give you all something to laugh at.

Support a good cause fellow Dreamers!!
[G1 General] the-equinoxe:
Those members of that "wrecking crew" acted very childish and deserved a time out.

On repeated occasions they hijacked threads, where flaming and performed n00b bashing.

THIS IS NOT TOLERATED ON XDA. (check the rules!)

Any further actions like this (wrecking threads you guys proudly call it, will result in harsher actions).

EqX

BTW any use of sock-puppet accounts will result in a permanent ban!!
[G1 General] Mikey:
Holy Macro Batman!!!!!.......

This poll shows alot of "HATE" in these forums. lol

I get off work, come home, have a smoke, a coffe..I notice XDA is dishing out "Lessons" on Java, hate flying all over in this thread.

Powers off computer and continues too finish my smoke.

Since it's my birthday tomorrow, I'll be taking the weekend off :)

See what i'll log onto on Tuesday lol
[G1 General] the-equinoxe:
BTW, before anybody thinks the results of the poll are real:

I added those numbers (hope you see the humor of it, although some might think I don't have one.. ;) )

Regards,

EqX
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] XQ55:
Very good MMS CAB

* You can send and receve up to 300 KB.

* work very good in VGA screen.

* Give you new options (New>MMS or Video Message or SMS).

Arcsoft_mms_507024_B_6.zip (Old)

New Update:

Arcsoft MMS 5.2.0.22 VGA.zip

New Update: (You must install V 52022 First then install this)

Arcsoft MMS 5.2.1.37.cab

Sorry for any wrong info
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Nixeus:
Hi,

I don't think it's the last build ! I have the 5_2_2_37 !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] o2l8:
using 5.2.1.22 and it gives me threaded SMS and MMS but incoming pics are very small! on Alltel with energy ROM
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ai6908:
Yea this is a old build.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] criminalogic:
Doesn't work with any ppc, it doesn't work with mine....

CDMA htc touch vouge, Bell ..

WM 6
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] selyb:
the cab file is labelled 5.2.1.37, the MASD registry entry claims 5.2.2.37

anyway, this is 5.2.3.22R1 extracted from DA_G's HTC_MEGA packages post
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jeffreyljb:
Request a CAB file of ArcoSoft 5.2.3.22R1 extracted from DA_G's HTC_MEGA
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] taox:
I want the last build cab for wvga.

Can you upload...?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] selyb:
http://home.comcast.net/~selyb/XDA/Messaging_Client_Arcsoft(5.2.3.22R1).cab
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] taox:
This is QVGA device software package.

Can you give me WVGA version?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jeffreyljb:
Thank you indeed,my dear friend,unfortunately installation failed at the beginning...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] selyb:
sorry, I have only QVGA

I will have time tomorrow to try to convert it again
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] taox:
Thx! You are a good guy!

Good luck!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jeffreyljb:
Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] selyb:
ok, fixed and uploaded again (QVGA only)

http://home.comcast.net/~selyb/XDA/Messaging_Client_Arcsoft(5.2.3.22R1).cab
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jeffreyljb:
Got it and works perfect,thanks once again:-).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] taox:
thx!

wvga....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zooster:
Which version should I download for WVGA (Topaz)?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] selyb:
not the one I posted :p