yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cdhian:
Thanks a lot

Sorry for my noob question, but does it come with the touch flow 3d?

another noob question is... what is WWE version? my diamond2 come with the wm 6.1 in english, but i think it is from europe, so what should i install? the english version?

Thanks

sorry my noobies
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
All HTC Topaz WM 6.5 ROM's available as well on BeeGee's Topaz File Mirror soon.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] elrooster:
WorldWide English :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tigcf:
It's more like WorldWide English, but nice try though! :cool::):):):):)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ADeadlySpoon:
If i install this and find problems or anything is there any way i can go back to my old ROM?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] agent.m:
depends on the old rom. if its cooked or you can download it off official website then yeah no prob. if u just bought your phone and there is no original like mda compact v then you have to dump the rom (back it up)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ADeadlySpoon:
Well I bought it a month or 2 ago unlocked and can't see anywhere to get the ROM on it atm, it's not a cooked ROM so how would i back it up? (sorry for these questions i've never tried this before)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
a) use Dump My ROM to get the ROM from your Topaz. It will be the OS only, no radio, splashscreen or installed applications/data

b) Follow the Rebuild ROM instructions to get a flashable ROM file for backup.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] belumada:
Screenshot

Hi can someone who have flashed the ROM provide screenshots, please?

Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] linshilinshi:
Hi, thanks a lot~

Is there a version supporting Chinese?

Like Asian WWE version, Hongkong version, or TaiWan version?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Not yet, hope its coming soon.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] orouborus:
Your the best TOM! thanks! :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] linshilinshi:
Downloaded WWE version. I think I will add chinese support manually~lol~~
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] xxdopodxx:
I`m downloading!!:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
here you go:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ArtieQ:
Why is there no "Owner Information" anymore in the settings? I can't register my Resco Explorer..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] player911:
Microsoft thinks its fun to hide it. The only way to get it back is to delete a registry entry. I don't think a cab will allow you to delete reg entries. I've asked this several times in these forums before, but the Pure build was 2.31... this is 2.16... wouldn't the Pure rom have the most up to date drivers?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ArtieQ:
I found it, it's HKLM\ControlPanel\Owner, set the value "Hide" to "0".
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] player911:
I don't know why MS is doing this. Almost all WM apps are registered by Owner name. Disabling the Owner info setting screen will make most apps go un-registered.

If I was a normal person, that couldn't change my owner info... I just wouldn't buy paid apps. Perhaps the hidden owner name is used for Marketplace. Maybe it "assigns" you an owner name that the apps register to when you buy them off Marketplace.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] punggeorge:
Thank you very much!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] EleCtrOx666:
Without HardSpl 1.83 it didn't install. I installed it and now it works ! Thanks alot !
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] xxdopodxx:
Does it need to flash everything below:

RADI0_V2-

BOOTLOADER-

RCUST-

SPLASH1-

OS-

CONFIGDATA-

??

And what will they work??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] makhoor:
plz

tell me how to enable flash light for missing calls and messages

i cant changed
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ULJ:
Thanks for the screenshots :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] roxtedy:
ROM is slowly:( I cant do Touch Flo 3D to czech language...Have you idea? Thanks
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] katsj:
Dutty I want to test the official ROM but I will do it on a friend's Topaz! I am refusing to flash anything above your R6! :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] njord74:
How can i get the 3 widgets on the homepage of TF3D? is it not in the official rom for TD2?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Alfredos:
That's the rom of the HD2
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Thomas.A:
@njord74: You can't get the 3 widgets on the homepage with this ROM: because this is Sense 2.1 and the version with the 3 widgets is Sense 2.5 (only to the Leo-device).
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] njord74:
ok...to bad.but not the most important thing to have,but it looks nice..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] fugitiv3:
and still nothing on htc.com :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] TheMafioso:
I've uploaded for you the WWE version on rapidshare:

http://rapidshare.com/files/2985323..._Sign_Topaz_61.44tc.25.32_4.49.25.17_Ship.exe
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] makhoor:
any reg edit to activite flash light
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tsjensen:
I reach 18% and then I get an "update error" code 262. Tried 3-4 times :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] mediadoctor:
You need Hard-SPL update to HSPL 1.83
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] orik13:
It's strange that HTC have not put this release on the web site.

Maybe it's a beta version and they found some issues not allowing to publish it... ?...?...?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] agent.m:
Just been thinking. How hard would it be to add shortcuts. like a mortscript or some small program?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] orik13:
IMO

, SPB MobileShell v3.5 is much better option for all widget lovers.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] hankuman:
THX TOM!in Simplified chinese rom will you upgrade?:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] rnzb:
Dutty's cooked rom is much better

if you want my opinion dutty's cooked rom r5 is much better from theofficial rom

i tested this cooked rom 10 days ago and still on it and will never update it to official rom because in the official rom you will not get sense 2.5 like in cooked

you will use Leo sense 2.5 on your topaz

so for all people need these widgets just go and download dutty's rom R5 in my case i don't know if R6 is better or update for R3

just download Dutty's he is better than bill gates lol

always companies like htc and microsoft will limit everything for you and don't let you have all facilties that cooked rom will give you
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] daffie:
I agree, however would like to add UdK's Leo R3...my personal favorite just above Dutty's Leo R5 and R6.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] technomania34:
I'm trying 24 hours, currently used in the ram %75 :mad:. We waited in vain, more logical to use cooked rom. I would return to the cooked rom :cool:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] prokji:
Official release still available

See http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=728&news_id=310 - in this moment available GER , SWE , UK and more - absolutly OFFFICIAL!!:D:D:D:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Superman_1122:
I entered my serial Number, downloaded the .exe file, tried to run it and it errors saying its "not a valid win32 application"

FUBAR?!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Achnaton:
TD2 Dutch version

Hi,

Tried to install the WWE 6.5 version on my TD2 but with no suc6.

Got message that this isn't the right version to install! :(

Do i need to use HardSPL to install the WWE on my Dutch (NL) TD2?

Or wait for the dutch version!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Laban:
Check the file size of the installation. It should be around 160MB, got the same as you. Download from US i the drop list and it should work.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tanvolkan:
The same mistake... Where can we find.. for working diamond 2.

??????????
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gingercat:
Try looking at the stickies at the head of this forum... :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cdbannister:
backup before upgrade...

Can anybody suggest what I can useto backup my diamond 2 before the WM6.5 upgrade?

Cheers!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Superman_1122:
Thanks Laban, it is downloading now, 160mb instead of the 56KB one!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] br3nt:
you can download from official HTC Support site now :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] orouborus:
got stuck at 9% percent and just goues to the tri color and loading screen if i recover it it repeats the entire process. cant turn the phone on now. i have used olinex 1.83 already. :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chris5s:
Maybe try flashing another rom, then you might be able to get into your phone at least.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chokee:
Can you show me the link?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tatoone:
When the italian ROM?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] br3nt:
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=728&news_id=310
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] orouborus:
THANK YOU!!! it worked!! :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] prabhat:
Thanks :)

I think all officail sites are also updating the ROM from today :)

May be in India we will get in a couple of days....
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] orouborus:
updated to 6.5 and didnt work ill just be waiting for the rom from htc instead. :D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] nickfranky:
Hi!

When i tried to download the WWE 6.5 ROM Upgrade from HTC, and type my S/N of the device, there was a message like:

this ROM upgrade is not suitable for your device

Is there any chance to have an Eastern European version of the ROM? Or EU ROM? I live in Hungary, i think HUN version is not possible....
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] darkic:
Same s... here. I live in Serbia, my Rom and Radio is same as NickFranky`s. Any help for us, forgotten in Earth`s black hole.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] WladyX:
Same for Romania...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tzacanel:
why don't you flash the wwe version? i'm from romania too and the wwe version doesn't bother me.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tzacanel:
btw works great for me by now.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] tabarda:
Link for PTG

http://rapidshare.com/files/2987435...1_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.44tc.25.32_4.49.25.17_S
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] WladyX:
Because i can't even download it, it says that it is not intended for my device, i tried with the leaked english version and it said: invalid vendor id.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lexx2009:
solution

Try this serial:

ht96vl100038 or any other WWE from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=568330

Download from US mirror on the dropdown list couse it's faster.

Install HSPL 1.83 from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=520312

Now you can flash the downloaded ROM!:)

Bafta!:D
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lexx2009:
6.5 vs.6.1 stock ROM

Is there any one who can make a comparison between the two stock OS in terms of speed, occupied memory, free RAM and so on?

I guess I'm not the only one that would appreciate this!

Thanks tom for posting! You've done a great job!:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] sceep:
10x dude :)

works perfect
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Tane71:
Thanks tom for the centralized Roms upgrades!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] BeeGee_Tokyo:
I am happy with this 6.5 stock ROM. Don't like Manila 2.5 anyway.

Tweaked it a little bit in my kitchen, removed unused applications, put in what I really need.

Now its running fast and stable, no bugs found so far.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] player911:
Well I can't speak for the Topaz as my AT&T Pure came stock with WM6.5

Coming from a Raphael (Fuze) which ran WM6.1 and WM6.5, I can say that WM6.5 is usually alot more responsive and easier to use. Memory usage is about the same. A good rom will usually have about 35% memory usage. The good thing about WM6.5 is that it uses extra slots for virtual memory for programs to load into (Slot0,60,61).

The Raphael never seen an official WM6.5 but the stock Pure AT&T build and the official Topaz HTC build are pretty memory intensive. On a fresh boot I'm seeing close to 50% memory usage that can go well over 65%. I blame Manila as it is becoming so huge. The Manila packages alone are 60+mb in size, where a typical rom without Manila (the whole rom) is only usually about 95mb.

I think HTC's goal is to provide an overlay so deep within the OS... that its all you really see. Even on the HTC Hero, you hardly see the actual android stuff. Same with Windows Mobile. With later versions of Manila (called Sense now)... all of the Windows apps are slowly being replaced with HTC versions. The start menu is already replaced with that of their own. Even now, they disable the settings link with their own to hide the normal settings menus.

Mobile OS's are becoming a shell to house HTC's OS. Almost like a virtual OS (using Windows to emulate Linux).

So its hard to answer your question because the Manila packages have change so much. To be fair, one should look at the core WM builds solely. WM6.5 really cleaned up the code alot and really screams. My phones have been faster and more responsive running WM6.5 then they ever were on WM6.1. I think it has a lot to do with the memory handling of the WM6.5 nk.exe

Now running WM6.1 with Manila vs WM6.5 with Manila... again the Manila builds have come a long way and keep growing in size. I think even with the enourmous Manila 2.1 and 2.5 builds, WM6.5 still runs VERY well. On my Pure, all of my builds excluded Manila. Right now my kitchen is using the base from the Official WM6.5 rom. I have 2 builds; with and without Manila. Even with the extra space and memory Manila eats up... it still is really fast.

So to sum it up, if you are currently running WM6.1 and you are worried that the WM6.5 build might be clunky and slow... don't be. You might be surprised.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] devilxelloss:
Just turn HTC Sense off in Today settings, and turn owner info on then you can set the owner info. After that, turn HTC Sense back on.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] obsydian:
No progress

I find it a backwards step in terms of features, with no major differences in speed and bugs.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cyber.raven:
hi cdbannister,

I'm using Pim Backup myself (work like a charm), but there are lots of other backup tools out there - just take a run at the application section.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] WMguy:
Do I need to install hard spl to flash the official HTC 6.5 rom on an ATT Pure?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pietrucci:
Maybe this!!: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=510385
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Scoooby555:
Can someone please help me?

I just flash my topaz with this official 6.5 rom and now I have problem with flash light setting for new sms or new e-mail. It stays grey no matter what I do. Although light flashes when sms/e-mail arrives but I cannot change time period.

Please help.

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] smuppy:
Bug?

Anyone noticed a bug with the clock?

If I press the taskmanager-icon in the top-right corner and then press the screen somewhere else, the clock first changes back one hour and three minutes and then slowly advances to the correct time, first the hour and then the minutes...

Just me?

Used the swedish ROM...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Scoooby555:
I was told this is common issue/bug in manila 2.5 in all roms...official and cooked.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pietrucci:
hi player911,

Don't want to be negative and I certainly don't want to offend you, but...

About the performance of WM6.5 I really do not agree with you. Compared with most recent WM6.1 ROMs WM6.5 feels slow(er) and laggy. Especially the newest builds. I do agree with you that WM6.5 seems to have better memory management and certainly more functionality, but faster... no.

Also my benchmarks confirm that WM6.1 ROMs aren't that slow. I attached a ranking of all my benchmarks on Topaz and that shows that most WM6.1 ROMs are in the top of the list and from the bottom 25 there are 23 WM6.5 ROMs. From the first 17 ROMs only 6 are WM6.5. And two of them are light versions... Also the newest HTC WM6.5 stock ROM scores a bit slower than the "old" WM6.1. version.

Although these benchmarks don't say everything, they confirm my personal feelings in daily use.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] floodissimo:
for me, 6.5 ROMs seems a bit more responsive than 6.1....
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] gingercat:
I'm just glad that SMS messaging works fine with this build, I've had problems with some cooked ROMS whereby SMS messages refuse to leave the outbox :(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Scoooby555:
Does anyone have the same problem?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] arkavat:
I recently had to return my Fuze for warranty purpose, so I had to flash my phone back to stock spl, ROM, and radio. Thus I was using 6.1 ROM for last few days. I felt the 6.1 ROM to be quite unproductive.

I am not countering you nor am I supporting player911 (I am not too knowledgeable about memory management etc...), but rather i will put forth a whole different issue forward.

If I install win 98 on my computer, will it run faster on my computer than windows xp?* Yes it will. But the user experience will be completely different. My OS may run faster but it may take me longer to do simple tasks, just because xp is more productive OS. I can install boat load of theming and 3rd party software on win 98 and try to make it look better..perform better, but it is going to impact performance. Same is the issue with win 6.1 and win 6.5. Windows 6.1 without Manila is a pain to use, but win 6.5 is very productive by itself. Titanium and other changes have made win 6.5 quite user friendly. Win 6.1 need manila, desperately. So we are talking of 60mb of additional RAM, i.e. performance impact. Thus, I will recommend win 6.5 or win 6.1.

* If you are wondering why I am comparing win98 and win xp and not vista or win 7... well, for me Win 98 = Win 6.1 and Win 6.5 = xp. Win 6.5 has UI changes but the core system hasn't changed much. The design ideology is still the same and MS needs to change it. From what i am reading, WinMo 7 will have such changes and thus, I will keep the Win 7 analogy reserved for WinMo7.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pietrucci:
I agree with a big part of your story. But you can't seriously say that WM6.5 ROMs are more repsonsive than WM6.1, especially with Manila. On the current WM6.5 ROMs every screenclick is slow(er), sometimes looks like hanging. A lot of cooked WM6.1 ROMs with Manila react much faster and are more stabile by now.

You compare it with the old stock WM6.1 ROM, ok that's slow an buggy. But the more recent 6.1 ROMs just are snappy to me.

And yes, WM6.5 is a big step forward in functionality especially without Manila.

And yes, I like Manila 2.5 very much and it's highly adaptable for example with maxycy tooling. In fact I like it so much I only use WM6.5 and Manila 2.5 nowadays.

But the combination WM6.5 and Manila 2.5 still is very slow (and instabile). My standard benchmarks confirm my feelings and theory about this.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] pietrucci:
And one personal thing: WM6.5/Titanium is soooooooooo ugly!!! I really can't imagine that people come up with such an interface.

Sorry Microsoft...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] arkavat:
HTC is aiming 2.5 for snapdragon platform and thus, they are no too much worried about high resource demands. And it looks like that is the trend with MS as well. The windows mobile 7 requirement draft 1 asks for similar high specs. Thus, we will have to wait and see how manila 2.5 performs on HD2, the device it is designed for. Sooner or later we will just have to admit that we are on a slower platform and will have to choose between features and performance.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] cdbannister:
Yes, I've noticed this! No idea why it does it but doesn't make a huge difference.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] PhilipL:
Hi

I don't think this is a bug but a feature added as HTC thought we might like to see the clock animation over and over. When you go to various menus then click back so the clock has focus again the click animates by jumping back 1 hour and one minute then flicks forward again.

Pretty annoying and pointless.

Regards

Phil
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] chokee:
I have been trying this 2.16.405.4 ROM for nearly 1 day.

Does anyone have the same issue with battery percentage indicator, it does not show actual percentage, but only updated every 10% just like the 10 green bars... so I don't see any advantage of this percentage number except for the shortcut to know how much the battery will last. Definitely cooked ROMS are better on this...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] lexx2009:
Thanks a lot man, that really helped!:)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Bahram.EE:
hi everybody

what a shame, htcpedia is filtered in my country. can someone here upload the English version in rapidshare. your help would appreciated
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] amorese:
Please, I need a help ...

I have a htc touch diamond 2 in English, but he came from asia, where they do not have the official update available, but would like to move my system for Portuguese, if I install the rom in Portuguese have a problem?

I can install another, with another language if you are not good?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Mondra90:
When is officiall dutch ROM coming out.. they said 28th of octokber.. but nothing
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Cre8ive1:
Has anyone flashed the new RUU_Topaz_S_HTC_WWE_2.16.405.4_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.44tc.25.32_4.49.25.17_Ship.exe ROM to an AT&T Pure yet?

If so, what are your thoughts?

Thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Yuqiang8:
i want to get a chinese revision
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] ntt2006:
Here for you :
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] seeryang:
i have the same problem with you

like the title, and another problem is the phone can not wake up from the sleeping without use reset sometimes, any one have this problem?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] arkavat:
I got my Pure today in the morning. I had planned to use the stock ROM for a while till I get familiar with phone. However, after seeing how much crap At&t has loaded on our phones, I decided to try this ROM. After all it is Official ROM and thus hopeful I will be able to get an idea of what this phone is capable of and what it can't do.

My first reaction after loading this ROM was... At&t is Stupid. This ROM is so much better than what they have given us. They should have waited for a month and launched their phone with this version of Manila. Now instead of giving my opinion, i will just list out the things which are better than At&t. you decide for yourself

1) Home Screen with Weather Clock

2) Home Screen with full screen Weather animation

3) Very good keyboard. The text prediction is very good and very user friendly

4) No Bloatware from At&t

5) Automatic weather location update.

6) No more loud boot up animation. At&t has that ugly 3G loading animation.

7) Black theme with colored tab icons.

There might be more.. but as i said, I just flashed it. But I am happy with the ROM upgrade. I will stick with it till I find a suitable custom ROM for me.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] Cre8ive1:
@arkavat... thanks! flashing later tonight...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure ROM Development] orouborus:
yup have the same problem it is set to only 5mins.

so far i like the rom than 6.1. new manila is also betrer and response has improved. one thing i noticed is that when i try to send an sms, the keyboard is qwerty then changes to phone keypad. this happens after the phone has slept for some time. weird......