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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] saquib:
Acer Liquid now out

Paul @ Modaco has go his hands on the Acer Liquid, which has very similar specs. to the HD2 (processor, screen resolution etc.).

Within a few hours, he's already rooted it!

Would a rom dump help - I'm sure he'll be willing to help out!

From his twitter comments appears to a vanilla 1.6 donut built without heavy customisation.

http://android.modaco.com/content/acer-liquid-a1-liquid-modaco-com/296337/buying-one/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stokedanuk:
I was just coming online to say that! I can't see why the port wouldn't work.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] daleski75:
Good candidate as any for porting until the bravo comes out
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] the_b00gyman:
Hi,

don't know whether you heard about it, but the team of VMware (you'll know it from Desktop Virtualization) is about to make a mobile Version of it, that supports symbian, WinMob and Android (as far as I know) so with some time passes we'll be able to launch other OS on our HD2's ;)

here's the link for all of you, who are think, this might be a joke: http://www.vmware.com/products/mobile/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] spastik:
Any news regarding this issue ?

Anyone tried to boot android yet (even without support to most of the hardware) ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kholk:
At the moment there is a vanilla linux kernel for android with the Qualcomm SnapDragon support.

What stops all of us from having a working Android OS on our devices is that these devices haven't got the same lcd panel/controller, so maybe the kernel boots, but we can't never know if we don't have a working LCD or a working debug connection (USB/Serial).

As for now, there is nothing of functional.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NetRipper:
Heh, imagine this. I'm currently using the flashlight GPIO from asm as means for debugging. I mean, make change, compile kernel, see if light turns on (yes it reached my code!) or if it didn't (****, where did it hang this time). Not much other choice if kernel boot doesn't even get to machine init. Somehow it still hangs somewhere very early in the boot process.

Anyway if there's something usable (like, anything), I'll post an update here.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pkchips:
.... is that a for real HTC Desire ROM???
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kholk:
Tha only ROM that maybe can work if the GPIOs are the same, is the Supersonic one, but I highly doubt on that.

Anyway, having the kernel source of the Supersonic will help.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ragdoll20:
Holy god :eek: i cant even count how many times people have said this:

"Hey there is the HTC desire coming out, thats the same specs"

"Hey there is the HTC supersonic coming out, thats the same specs"

"Hey there is the HTC legend coming out, thats the same specs"

lol :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] noellenchris:
Maybe it's the excitement. If someone does work on it, it is possible. Look at the Vogue. Similar hardware and poof, everything works, you can even flash it to Android. Look at the TP, not much similar and almost everything is working...

So if there are devices with almost the same specs, give us some good criticism why it won't .......we'll ignore the negative and press on! Don't be a hater....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheRockXXL:
some posts before i told u guys to use the htc dragon rom cause the dragon is a hd2(leo) with android

and now its like christmas... i found a dragon rom out there

maybe it will help us

[edit] if a mod can prove me so i can post links ... -.-
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] t-mizzle:
I suggested it because they are very comparable phones, hardware wise identical in most categories.

Now as chris mentioned, I am excited. The HD2 on my carrier is very cheap and no need to change my plan. I believe with Android it would be the best phone without hard keyboard. Why wouldn't I be excited at the prospect of having the best slab for factor phone for $200? I will post again if I have something to contribute.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheRockXXL:
i can tell how to find this rom dump

so somebody can post the link here

just search on google for "htc dragon rom"

and then click the androidspin link

but please note again this isnt a rom ready to flash to ur device
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sultan1993:
http://www.androidspin.com/2009/12/27/htc-dragon-android-1-5-system-dump/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
the current leo kernel is based on the nexus one (dragon) kernel. no links needed but thanks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ragdoll20:
Im very sorry, i wasnt hating on it, as a matter of fact, i too have a HD2 and im checking this thread out every day! i really respect what the developers are doing :) i was merely saying that that has been said ALOT in this thread, nothing more
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheRockXXL:
mh

cant see why it shouldnt help us

its a htc dragon -> Android 1.5 dump

not only the kernel
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
If we wouldn't have the n1/dragon kernel sources a rom dump of that device could of course provide vital information. But luckily that's not the case. Because all of the source code to this is available.

If you look at my signature you know what we are doing here: The challenge is to sort out the hardware differences between n1/dragon and leo (they are documented at http://htc-linux.org/wiki) and meet the required changes on the kernel/driver level.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheRockXXL:
maybe its my fault but i dont think u have to sort things out when the htc dragon is the same hardware model as the leo
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
grrr.... who told you that just because it looks and sounds similar doesnt mean it has the same hardware. if it had been android wojlx have been ported in a day or so.... grrrr :mad
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheRockXXL:
i've read it on iu4dotcom

and on many other sides around the web
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chalid:
dragon was the internal name for the nexus one, wasn't it?

I guess the supersonic (or whatever you want to call it) might give new hints. at least it shares more style similarities with the hd2 than the n1.

however, htc might as well just put an 4.3 inch screen and an hd2 case on the n1 ... so no pressing reason to think that this will be more helpful than the nexus one sources. investigating still might be worth it ... ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kholk:
if you're so sure that it'll work, try it yourself :)

We're saying from our experience that similar isn't equal, and for running a kernel on a handheld device, it HAS to be developed for the specific device because of GPIO addresses.

Anyway the only thing that maybe can speed up the development is the kernel source of the HTC supersonic that seems to be an hd2 with touch buttons! ...but that isn't sure and isn't sure that it'll help.

Stay tuned for further development changes :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Casperionx:
Must say, I've been following this thread intently since I ordered my HTC HD2. Im just a little bit curious, since you are working on brining Android to HD2, Im just wondering any chance of bringing Linux proper to it? SO we could install ful java on it perhaps?? :)

Just a quick edit...

Since Android and Linux are very similar (and Linux is the back end effectively of Android). Hence my question. Im mostly a php/socket programmer - I do like the idea of this effort!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
wonders how many open sockets you can being in to android :d no just because dragon has 1 ghz processor and 4.3 inch its irq valuez are different. we can usr tgr sourcr code in faking as leo but you cant fake fragon with a leo. i hope you get my point. awaiting supersonic source.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
yes of course. what we run is the normal linux kernel. you can run anything that's available for arm linux. and that's a lot.

there are some 'non-proper' things in the google msm kernels though, that are specific to androed.

that's why you can not find support for any htc msm devices in the mainline (kernel.org) kernel... because they don't want any distro specific stuff in there.

but that can't stop you from running any non-andoid distro. and those non-proper things can of course be corrected.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
hy Guys

I am new here

I have some Qeustions:

where can I Donate to help you guys??

and how long is it going to take that android going to work on Htc HD2?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nzxtneo:
Damn... :confused:

Just read the last couple of pages and you will find your answer.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
I have read that people are working on it and there is a problem with the drivers

so can the driver problem be fix?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chalid:
no ... now move along :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] brandi:
Hey, I'll give another €20 as bounty for a full Android Port for HD2.

You can add this to the First Post if you like!

greetz ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kholk:
Instead of bounty, you all can better help developing on the linux kernel and helping us with the development and eventual tests.

That would be much more constructive.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MowinTheLawn:
Unfortunately, I have no experince with this sort of programming, and it is fairly complex.

Would there be any other ways I can help?

Kristof.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sultan1993:
What I need to do to make a test? download Haret and Kernel and run it on LEO?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FrEsHaZzBuRu:
double post :-/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] brandi:
Yeah, maybe think of not all people have the time and skills to develope on the kernel all day.... All i can give right now is some money, and i guess thats better than nothing.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FrEsHaZzBuRu:
Assuming the HTC supersonic has almost identical hardware, how hard would a full working port to the HD2 be? In other words, with the talents of those working on the port right now, would it only be a matter of weeks after the HTC supersonic's ROM is released to the public?

I'm anxious to upgrade to the HD2 once it comes out on Tuesday and finally leave my dying G1, but I don't want to go back to WM (I just love Andriod). Please respond with your knowledge and thoughts on this before I end up coughing so much money (to me anyways) on a device I won't like after all is said and done. I don't want a to pull the trigger if I'll only be left with a halfway working Android port that is laggy (I need most of the functions of the device ie camera, BT).

PS - I don't want to switch carriers, so waiting for the HTC supersonic is not an option for me.

Thanks in advanced for your help/suggestions.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Seg2009:
Let me try and explain this from my point of view and I would have thought that in a situation such as this, it is not the money aspect that is driving the devs with this project or would I imagine other Android ports either. I know if I had the developing skills and reverse engineering experience then this kind of project alone would drive and inspire me. It's not a case of how much money can I make if I port Android to HD2, but more a case of Can I?

It's the inquisitive mind that drives ppl on. Yes the money is nice for the devs, but there is more than on.

Is there a central point where everyone is donating to. I for one wonder how many ppl will actually stand by their donation pledges if/when the port happens.

What completing a project like this does is, give ppl a good reputation and kudos.

So lets leave the devs to developing and periodic updates will be available as and when there is any progress

JMO

Seg
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aceo07:
Don't get the HD2 if you don't like WinMo. It'll be a while before everything Android is sorted out. Even Android for HTC HD doesn't have working BT yet.

If you really want something like the HD2 with Android, Supersonic would be it. Or you can wait until something else comes out for your carrier.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
Like they said a few pages back... expect it to be AT LEAST a year before there's a port that can use most of the phones functions. Just because a different phone has the same specs does not mean that it uses the exact same parts and the roms are compatible. If you do not want to go back to WinMo, get another Android phone... not a WinMo phone.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
I agree. If you want a day to day phone and don't like to use winmo at all it's best to get a different device e.g. nexus one.

It will take a while until everything works.. atm we can't do anything actually. You see it booting but that's about it. Soon as you try starting any program it will just freeze and we don't know why yet. (which is why it's pointless to try starting any rootfilesystems now)

Still we can debug drivers to some extent so it's no stall stiutation.

Conditions are not bad for the leo to adapt the linux kernel (and to run andoid or whatever you like best) in a way that it will work ok. The nexus source code is perfect base to start from. It's a much better situation than with th msm7xxxA devices.. E.g. mmc worked almost out of the box.. if you look at raphael and friends it took us much longer.

So stay tuned :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bkar89:
To be honest... the bluetooth in my old HTC Hero is not something i'll brag about ;)...

I've testet netrippers image, it ran quite well... it froze when the screen said reboot in 5 sec...

i'd like to test kholks image aswell, but all the links are down... anyone know a working link?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
leo Image with latest changes

http://www.linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/b...-leo-e32a69bab4e49281b420095ee4d3e52e8e9462bf
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Markinus:
Hi!

here a small state of our development. We (cr2, NetRipper, dcordes, I and some others (phh etc) ) are working an the HD2 kernel. We have some things ready but we have very much other stuff to do. This is a verly early state. E.g. we don't have a MSM Touchscreen ( we haven't got a driver for our TS now ) and our virtual keyboard cannot work. ( We have to rewrite it completly). etc etc. But some other things are like nexus and should be done fast. I working now on the battery driver and some other things.

Markinus
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] john7878:
thx

Thanks for the update, good job
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nafi33:
Thanks for the update, very nice to hear;)

Keep up the good work!

BTW, when do you guys expect we can get android on our HD2?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
That was just discussed on the last couple pages! READ!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] argoldst:
REALLY? Please tell me you did not just ask that! I know reading is hard but it was JUST talked about.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FrEsHaZzBuRu:
I understand that porting a ROM over from scratch is a very timely process. I was just looking to the little hope that there's a chance the HTC supersonic would sport identical hardware to the HD2 (not just similar). If they are identical, porting it over should be a breeze then right? I just want to give myself a reason to get the HD2 i guess... I just love that screen!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MTC44:
Are you dense? They have answered this question a thousand times. The answer is no.

If you want the HD2 with Android, either get a Supersonic or don't buy it yet.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FrEsHaZzBuRu:
I'm not going to try and troll around here (although it seems as if you are with your post count) so this would be my last post to the thread.

FYI, the intelligent people on this thread answered that similar hardware wouldn't mean that the drivers are the same. I understand that and know it would be be a timely thing to get to everyday use.

My question is regarding the chance the hardware is identical (which means the exact same thing). That should be "trivial" (to those who work with this type of stuff on a daily basis) for the developers to port right? This is assuming the drivers can be used with the HD2.

I only post legitimate questions and contributions to thread (as you can tell from my join date, I don't post very often). This was the best suited thread for my question (which related to developing the ROM not "if" it could be done) as opposed to creating a new one.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nzxtneo:
Honestly, the chances of the Supersonic being an identical match in terms of hardware to the HD2 are slim to none. But, with any luck the Supersonic will hopefully be of some help in getting Android to work "better" on the HD2.

The HD2 is fine piece of hardware regardless of what operating system it runs. Android on the HD2 is gonna happen, someday... But, if the main reason your wanting the phone is for an Android port, its probably best you wait it out. Who knows, maybe next week we will finally get word on the Supersonic at CTIA. But even if we do finally get some real details, they may not even give a firm release date on the device.

My advise to you is, if you can just wait it out.

But guys I really must say, honestly lets keep the questions of when Android will be available off this thread. If you really wanna ask then start a new thread and maybe a few devs working on the port will comment there. I am sure we can strike up some interesting conversation related to development of Android on the HD2. People can post articles or news updates, and ask all the damn questions they want. It is really just starting to piss people off here and before long someone might just piss of the devs enough that they stop commenting here and just stick to their IRC chat logs.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FrEsHaZzBuRu:
Thank you, that is exactly the type of answer I was looking to see.

To get things back on topic to development questions only, I'll go on my way silently watching this thread (as I currently don't have the knowledge you guys have).

Good luck to you guys, if I end up getting the HD2, I'll make sure to pass a few coins over for your effort as well.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] solog2006:
Question, and this isn't 1 of those dumb ass when will android b ported over or let me offer u guys money to rush you. Ive been following the thread closely and I noticed some1 mentioned that u can get the software to load but apps weren't working properly. By chance could you post a link so that I could check that out if u dont mind?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] terminal 7:
hi

HI.

i have followed this thread from day one.

for some time it served as a great learning experience for me ( and still does for the most part )

but lately the have been so many posts that are just no use like " good work but when will we have android on hd2 " or " has anyone looked at the desire rom " its obvious enough from any thread that you need to read before posting but this thread seems to be getting a daily flow of this sort of thing now.

now heres where i get flamed-:eek: would it be better to remove the link at the begining that uses the words '$200' 'BOUNTY' since that has been there there seems to be more of these un-necessary posts.

sorry if my comments arent welcome, im not a developer, i am a hd2 owner and linux lover, and i follow the work here with interest as its such a good learning tool...... ( (which i think is what this is all about - the route to the goal - not just the end result !) );)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tids2k:
[update] no useless talk in this thread. Do not talk about other phones specs. Thid a no noob thread if you want to discuss about it talk in the other discussion thread. This thread is not for you all. This is only for a developer who wants to and knows howto port android on hd2. Everyone else stay away and do not post useless topics. We dont need you here.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dcordes:
I second that. It's all about the fun of it. And the best thing about that route is that the users can help steering things into a direction they like. That's the good thing about free software when it's community driven.

No marketing persons from big companies like google or microsoft who are trying to tell you what you like best on your phone.

edit: latest build still at http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=5948664&postcount=1018

westcoast tux got a new phone:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pkchips:
Whilst I've avidly been following this thread, I have not yet made any posts and understand the frustration that's been expressed at people who ask questions that have already been answered hundreds of times.

However, I felt that I had to respond when I saw this unnecessarily offensive message which is not going to make any difference to people who want to post here.

People are excited about the prospect of Android being on the HD2, and telling them to effectively F off because you "dont need them here," is just nasty.

Surely it should be a motivation to the developers that so many people are so keen to see the end product of their work. Instead of shooing them away, their actions should really be taken as an incentive and a source of satisfaction for developers that what they are doing is truly appreciated.

Its not just a hobby, we all have great respect for you guys for the time you put into this. If only I knew enough about Linux to help you out.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DD9200:
Please don't slaughter me for this.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/live-from-sprints-ctia-2010-press-event/?sort=newest&refresh=30

I've looked at the spec sheets, they're nearly identical, will this help at all?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chalid:
nearly identical? :confused:

different camera, different network, different battery, different hardware design (powerbutton, hdmi output, etc ...) and so on ...

it may look like an hd2 on speed, but its seems to be a completly different device ... not just an hd2 with android. what I want to say: don't get your hopes up.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DD9200:
My mistake.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kankam:
lets stay away

I am inclined to agree with tids2k. This thread is just going wayward with really silly questions that simply detract from the hard work at hand. I'm sure if the developers have anything to release, they'll do so. If anyone wants to give them a thumbs-up, they can use the other thread which is specifically for that purpose. Some people dont even bother to read a single thing but simply butt in here and ask "is there a working rom for android on hd2". Lets leave this thread to those who are working on this project.