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[Hero, G2 Touch General] vadonald:
I had Taskiller installed, but after initially using it, I found that I wasn't bothered to use it, but it was still there with the icon at the top of the screen.

I read that they can actually slow your system down, so as I wasn't using it, I uninstalled it and maybe it isn't but the system does seem a little more responsive now :confused:

Vince
[Hero, G2 Touch General] blacksr:
i used advanced taskiller and it kept my phone awake even when locked/lcd off. that murdered my battery. i uninstalled and use task manager now with no issues. it is not as simple as dragging down the notifications bar but my battery life is fine now.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] foxmeister:
I've definitely found that there is pretty much zero benefit to regularly using a task killer. Other peoples mileage will vary of course, and I'm sure there will be combinations of applications that don't sit too well together and cause issues, but I'm pretty confident than Android handles resource management well enough for most users.

I do wonder how may of those who swear by task killers are also using swapper, as I can well imagine that swapper will cause problems with Androids own resource management.

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jirafabo:
HAHAHA guess you're not getting a clear cut verdict on task killers from this thread! seems like everyone has their own opinion....

There was an earlier debate on this topic. The thread is here... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=569709&highlight=task+killer

and the android info is here (must read for understanding task killing) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=569709&highlight=task+killer
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Aridon:
They work well when set up properly. No reason to be closing widgets and programs on your sense ui that you use on a fairly often basis because it will take some time for them to load when you want to view them.

Leave the stuff you use regularly open and close the junk that takes up resources that you don't regularly use. Most of these programs have exception lists for a reason.

People that automatically end all and close sense, or their system dialer files will obviously run into problems and lag when all that stuff restarts at the same time.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tstack77:
Exactly. They are fine if you exclude ALL the necessary components, then just have a few remaining on the main page that you know can be quit. Advanced Task Killer has been fine for me with their 'ignore list'.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] immya:
i found that since ive stopped using task killer m battery life has improved quite alot

now i leave all the work to the android system :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] barryallott:
I have had the hero from day one and have had taskiller installed for about as long. I DID use it but do not now... and have no slow downs...

how?.......

custom rom....?

service which frees memory?

no...

Simply press back to exit a program and not home... if you press home the program most likley will not catch the button press and close. click back to exit and the program closes properly.

Press Back ....... this ISNT an iPhone with only 1 button.

nuff said...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] katmandu421:
I'm going without on this hard reset. On the last go around, even with disabling native sms app and using a 3rd party I was still getting the 100% awake time issue on the sprint hero.

FWIW, On a sprint hero make sure you ignore htiqagent, iqrd and omadm. Killing these will cause a radio reset, and ignore htcsense if you are using sense, which btw you can disable by removing its default setting in settings-apps-manage apps.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] El Mono:
I think it is safe to say that I'm pretty ignorant about Android/Linux/etc. Nevertheless, I have Advanced Task Manager and I like to use it. I do use it judiciously, only ending certain programs/apps yet leaving most of that business to Android. And, of course, I use it to end the program itself.

El Mono
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
pressing back button will not bring you directly to the homescreen on many apps (i.e. browser and so on). There are many cases where you will be just cycling back through the last steps you did WITHIN the app, when pressing the back button. So pressing back is NOT the same as pressing home, nor a good alternative.

And why the hell do we have a HOME button, if we have to press BACk in order to get on the HOME screen. Sounds like a pretty embarassing bug, if android doesn't recognize the home button press correctly.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] dbldown768:
Task Killer that people are talking about, is this similar to something like task manager 1.10.7 that i am using?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] masr:
"Advanced Task Manager" is really the BEST task manager :-)

There is a free version, I have the paid 99 cent version, because it also has automated killing of tasks in the background. Since I have this tool, my phone ALWAYS is very fast! Try the free version ;-)

Greetings! masr
[Hero, G2 Touch General] JBNAquatics:
Okay so here's my two cents on task manager/killers:

The browser uses a lot of memory when I'm browsing through the news and you can't completely close the browser without using a task manager. It is ironically that the task managers are designed to kill tasks and speed up performance and in a sense, save battery life (by not running misc processes) but the program itself sucks up your battery juice like gasoline in an Ferrari. I've used Taskiller, Advance Task Manager, Advance Task Manager Pro, Task Panel and IMO, Task Panel sucks your battery like mad and ATM Pro is the best so far.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] tozfeekum:
Thanks for this info, since we can get rid of senseui what would stop us from upgrading to android 1.6/2.0 without HTC?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MercuryStar:
Task killers are absolutely not necessary for speeding up or optimizing the phone in the normal course of operations. This is due to the way Android's virtual machine works.

They can be, however, necessary for killing processes (including background services) which are misbehaving due to a bug or other ABNORMAL, unintended behaviour. Due to the stability of the virtual machine, actual apps don't normally pose a problem but there are still a few ways they can misbehave, making the phone slow to respond.

I had an issue with a GPS tracker app (record your route using GPS in the background) which went haywire at one stage and all but made the phone unresponsive.

However, if you think you need to close processes with a task killer just in the normal course of using your phone and keeping it running smoothly, you're wrong. In most cases, you're not actually doing any harm by doing this, you're just wasting time.

But for closing apps which have an obvious bug they do come in useful.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] lawsofpower48:
nice said.... just let the non believers take their phone to hell with the task apps.... enought said, im so sick of seeing these questions and people who swear by task managers/killers.... ive used it and i know its bs
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
sorry, but just because you think its BS it doesn't mean that task managers make no sense to anybody else.

i think the android way of handling processes was explained in this thread nicely, and i also explained why i STILL want a taskmanager:

There are apps WITH background processes which i use every now and then, but after i used them i want to CLOSE them completely.

Android wouldn't do this automatically because the app has active components in the background, and according to androids rules it will NOT kill an app which has active background components. But i want this apps to be closed, in order to have more available RAM since i don't need this app in the background doing anything.

Therefore a Task Manager comes in handy. I don't know whats so hard to understand about this.

Of course task manager can have an impact on battery life, but i never said that battery life is my prio 1 reason for using a task manager. Performance is my prio 1 issue.

This sums it up very good: (posted by foxmeister)

"The point is that Android is pretty good at managing its own resources, but it will do so according to its own schedule and priorities. With a task killer, you are achieving much the same, but according to *your* schedule and priorities, which is fine."

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=569709&page=3
[Hero, G2 Touch General] lawsofpower48:
thats good. task killers = bs still (in my opinion) :) , i dont even bother reading through these like i first did anymore...anyways, good luck to u guys who use these
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MercuryStar:
A properly programmed app should provide a simple way to end that background task. For instance, the music player has a "pause" button which effectively ends the background task associated with that app.

I have used a few different apps which start background tasks (such as monitoring GPS location in the background, for example) and in each case they showed an icon in the notification bar while the task was active and made it easy to stop that task either through the notification window or by opening up the app. They were properly programmed apps.

If the app starts a background task and provides no easy way of stopping it other that to kill the process, then the app is defective, not Android.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] lawsofpower48:
exactly... a good normally has the icon at the top
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
This is true, but i'd rather have one task killer which can handle ALL apps processes and kill them if needed, instead of waiting for the 10.000 apps developers to get their work done and provide a fully functional UI according to android application standards.
[Touch Pro CDMA] dz1:
Hey guys I have been using the windows live messenger on my touch pro but my problem is that every time my phone goes into standby(when the screen turns off after a minute) the messenger logs out. Is there a way to stay logged in even when the screen turns off? or is there another messenger that supports live accounts that will let me stay signed in.
[Touch Pro CDMA] megavolt007:
It shouldn't log out every time you go into standby... but regardless how it loses it's connection, the WM Messenger won't reconnect.

I switched to Palringo for this very reason, although it's quite the battery hog.

Other options are Beejive and IM+ (paid software).
[Hero, G2 Touch General] s0v3r1gn:
I had an issue with my RIL crashing after a while due to "Insufficient Resources" which caused the text message I was trying to send to fail. This error occurred after about 2 days of use without a reset. When I rebooted and checked the Battery/CPU/Partial Wake-Lock usage in spare parts, it said that the dialer had been running the whole time(Part of the poor batter life issue).

Has anyone else had this problem?

I think the problems are probably related. Something in the dialer has a memory leak. Part of that leak involves the continuous wake-lock request. The other part has to due with it just eating resources up. All of the problems stem from the TXT messaging part of the dialer.

Once that is fixed it should be fine, I hope.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] judicious:
I used activesync and I am still unable to remove files like themes and wallpaper. It's under Windows/AppManager/

Any idea how I can remove them? There's also songs/alarm tones/ringtones I would like to remove as well.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Diamontylove:
Hi all.

Just started to download some application to my phone and I'm having some problems with it that need your help.

When i had extract the zip files and wanting to run the set up.

There's a error message say that "this application requires a newer version of the Microsoft.Net compact framework that the version installed on this device."

I got no idea how to fix this. Please help.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iceblade997:
google is your friend

install a newer version of .net compact framework onto your phone.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa497273.aspx
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] chadster214:
anyone has the original TF3D 2.1 theme that came with the touch Pro 2??
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] docsamsom:
Hi,

Does anyone know how to download attachments in Google mail directly to sd card?

In HTC Mail, you get the option of either opening an attachment or saving to sd card.

I am looking for something similar in Google mail to make it quicker to open the attachment the second time around.

Thanks

Samsom
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] docsamsom:
Bump! Any ideas, anyone?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suisen:
I think you have to open it and then save within the application you use to open it :/
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Use Gmail from the web browser, instead of the GMail app - it will download to /sdcard/download.

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] docsamsom:
Tried that. No option available in quick office.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aridon:
Multi touch and save ability are two of the reasons I'm using the HTC mail program. I miss push from the gmail one but can live without it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
You can use Exchange sync with Gmail now, so there's no need to miss it! ;)

Regards,

Dave
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jholic:
Well I flashed the mocado rom and I lost my internet, 3g and edge. all I get is my regular tmobile wit 3 or 4 bars. what do i need to do to get it back. sometimes i get an error saying my apn is incorrect. i read some were about loading a new radio. is this what I need to do. or what. any suggestions would be appreciated.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] sitimber:
so did you check your apn settings
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jholic:
researched apn setting got the right one. and got my internet and edge back but no 3g. i guess 2 out of 3 aint bad. it actually shows an H up there sometimes im thinking maybe thats the 3g idk
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] phatmanxxl:
H is a faster connection than 3g I think.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jholic:
still dont know about the "H" but did some more research and got proper setting for 3g...

\Internet Settings:

1. APN: wap.voicestream.com

MMS (Picture Messaging):

MMS APN: wap.voicestream.com

Username: [Leave blank]

Password: [Leave blank]

MMSC: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms

Proxy: 216.155.165.050:8080
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] str4vag:
speeds are in this order (starts from slowest to fastest)

G, E, 3G, H.

Be aware that most modified ROM will show 3G and H connections with just a 3G logo on the notification bar.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Luna K:
Hi,

I have a "weird" problem with my HTC Hero: whenever I try to login on a webpage (e.g. a forum or the website of my university), it doesn't work...

So: on the website I tap on "Log in". The browser takes me to another site where I enter my username and password. But after tapping the "Login" or I tap "Enter", the browser redirects me to the previous login website, where I have to press again "Log in" and re-enter my details...This happens every time... It doesn't make "the click" to direct me to the site I get when the login works... My username and password are 100 % correct...

When i try it with Opera Mini, it DOES work...

Is it some kind of setting or ... ? I have enabled the browser to store my usernames and passwords I enter...

Thanks in advance !

;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Luna K:
Hmmm... anyone?

;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jtadeo:
I have this problem with capital one's website.. I would like to know a fix as well.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] cbailey:
Luna,

can't help you but I can share your problem. It happens to me too.

You are not at Manchester Uni are you?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] thecastlefordkid:
I've tried a few websites that I use where login details are required i.e. forums, banks, email etc and it works fine for me.

Just out of curiosity, do you zoom in on the web page login area so that the 'Login' button is larger and can be selected easier? I always do that and never seem to have the problem you're experiencing.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Luna K:
@cbailey: no, I live in Belgium, so .. :p

@thecastleforkid: I just tried your method (zooming in on "Log In"), but it din"t work...

Like when I try to login in on a forum, for example www.9lives.be/forum (a belgian website), i try to login... so i click on the login button... the site redirects me to : www.9lives.be/login... I enter my details... the site SHOULD go back to www.9lives.be/forum, but in stead it goes to www.9lives.be/login/login......

and this happens with other websites also...

In Opera mini everything works fine (but i prefer the Hero browser with the multitouch...)

Very strange...

;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] benlc:
Hello.

I had the same issue with the french provider Orange.

So this is what I did to fix it, I don't know if it'll be the same for you :

Settings > Wireless Controls > Mobile Network Settings > Access Point Name

And I changed Orange World to Orange Internet.

The thing is you can't establish any secured connections (https) with some APNs apparently (I don't know the technicals details, sorry if I'm wrong in the explanations), so just try to change it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Luna K:
Hi!

thanks for the tip, but I use Mobile Vikings... so I don't know what to change..

also: with opera mini it works fine.. and that's also on Mobile Vikings (obviously...).. so I guess it has to do with the browser of the Hero instead of my APN...

Correct me if I'm wrong :)

greets ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] benlc:
Try to connect your websites over wifi and you'll be fixed.

If it doesn't work on wifi with hero's browser it's not your apn.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Luna K:
Well... I've tried that method (connecting through wifi) before... it didn't work... tried it again now... didn't work...

Man, it's getting annoying :p (not a lot of other complaints on the Hero though...)

Thanks for the tip anyway ! :)

greets ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] flyjbaker:
I do think it has something to do with the security settings on the native browser. I try to login to my work intrAnet via the native browser and many times it goes straight into a password violation lockout because the network thinks I am trying to hack into it. ANyway, I have had your same problem. Guess for those certain sites you are just gonna have to use Opera Mini or something similar.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] benlc:
It's really weird I guess I can't help you sorry :/

Did you check if htc hero's browser accept the cookies in the settings ?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Luna K:
WAAWW! you're my hero man !

I checked for the cookies and they were disabled.... I enabled them and IT WORKS :D on wifi AND on edge it works fine :D

Thanks for all the help Kouray and the other ones !

greets ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kbc88:
First off, I just got my tilt2 from stores yesterday, and I must say, I love it so much! Just got a few concerns...

For those of you who have the tilt2, when the screen is tilted all the way up, is there a "looseness" of about 2-3 degrees? Meaning, theres just a small portion of the tilt2 at its most "tilted moment," so to speak, that it just wiggles back and forth for about2-3 degrees? It's not too big of a deal really as the current tilting of the tilt2 seems MUCH more sturdy (and it will probably last much longer holding its tilt feature), but I want to know if its a physical defect on my current tilt2, or that's just how its made for whatever reason.

Also, I am quite worried about how much looser the top screen portion of the tilt2 is from the bottom keyboard when closed all the way as compared to my original tilt. If I were to slightly use my hands to grab each separate part and pull them apart gently, it is easy to see that it easily lifts, and if I pulled any harder, I can almost break those halves apart, whereas my first tilt BARELY budged even after 2 years of use. Basically, everything about the tilt2 is better, but it seems like it won't be able to take much of a beating as compared to the tilt1.

Just concerned about inevitable wear-n-tear, and its effects itll have in the long run, or couple of months even. Thanks in advance for future input!

Regards,

K
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] enisoc:
The 2-3 degrees of wobble is normal from what I've read. Mine has it too. It's slightly unfortunate, but doesn't really cause any practical problems.

I have read at least one report of a screen that can be separated from the body by a lot when closed. He said he could fit 15 (I think) playing cards in there, which mine most certainly could not fit. I never had a tilting phone before to compare to, but I am satisfied with my closed gap, which only goes up to about 1mm with light separating pressure. If your gap is much larger than that, it may be one of the less well attached screens.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Raspster:
I have the same problem with my tilt 2. Its abit annoying when you press in the screen on the left side of the device in portrait mode with the keyboard closed and the screen pushes in because of the gap but I don't beleive its a defect. I have seen some sturdier as my buddy's tilt 2 have zero play but his keyboard is hitting the bottom of the device and has scratched some keys so I would take mine any day. Plus I don't wanna chance it and take it back for an exchange as what you get may be worse.. IE - Dead pixel, screen QTY, keyboard lights, an even more loose slider, etc, etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kbc88:
Thanks for your reply, makes me feel at ease. Also, I think you've misunderstood, my gap is as small as you say, and from your words, it must be normal. It's when I intentionally put pressure on the screen and keyboard (not that I would do that on a normal basis, just for initial inspection purposes) that makes the gap wider. Though, I guess with a tilting screen like this, theres less tightness between the screen and keyboard. But nonetheless, all is normal. I was only concerned with those when I purposely applied my own force. I was not use to how much more delicate this machine, the tilt2, is as compared to my brick of a tilt1. :p

Regards,

K
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kbc88:
Yes, that was one of my que's from the start.

It was when the whole device was closed and I was playing with the touch screen, you could feel the screen go down a bit as I applied pressure to it. It was almost like if i pressed any harder, the bottom of the screen would just keep hitting the keyboard. But hey, glad to see that this seems to be a normal thing. :cool:

Regards,

K

PS. Oh and yes, I noticed it when I tapped on the left side of the screen as well.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vigan8:
Hey i searched everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But i need the thread where you can make a custom 2nd bootscreen. The shining one. the thread with a youtube video. can someone please give me the link, thanks,
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Diceman4:
should have read the question first, sorry.

Search for custom splash screen in the themes section.

It involves editing 2 png files in the framework-res.apk and being able to resign and push the apk back to the phone
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
At least you posted in the correct place this time, but you failed to read what others said before your other post got locked.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kusotare:
he's actually looking for the boot animation. not the splash screen.

*cough* my signature *cough*
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knowfear:
Yep. And his questions were all answered in his other thread just above this one. With the same title no less.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vigan8:
Hey i searched everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But i need the thread where you can make a custom 2nd bootscreen. The shining one. the thread with a youtube video. in the video he uses the stericson sign method, thanks
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supremeteam256:
Well if your sig is correct then you wont have a 2nd splash screen. the danger spl takes that away.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vigan8:
oh kk thanks,