yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G1 General] nonchalant_joe:
if you send me 1000 dollars and your phone, i will pull a drizzy and rlh with it.

i will send you root in return. or at least a link on how to get root. usually root is found at the bottom of a plant, mostly under the ground. sometimes you can get root access but that requires a shovel. oh.... darn, this isn't the gardening forum....
[G1 General] JoshHart:
As updates come out atleast every other week I wonder how this guy handles that and support afterward, seems like it would be a pain. There's about 5 or 6 phones now that I'm constantly updating for my friends, plus my own 2. I can't imagine having paying customers emailing me every 30 min about when I can update theirs.
[G1 General] hks18psigst:
I think thats what he's hoping... he'll flash the most stable at the moment then they come back and pay another 20.. for an upgrade.. lol wow
[Touch GSM General] turcott:
accidental double post, sorry.
[Touch GSM General] turcott:
hey guys/girls,

Just wondering if the HTC touch model 3050 can be upgraded to use windows mobile 6.5, instead of version 6.1 that is currently on the phone. If so, can anyone send me the link to the correct download with fewer or no bugs, much appreciated.
[Touch GSM General] Estou:
If u try to say HTC P3450/3452. just look on elf upgrade....
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garytaylor1974:
i was having a lot of problems with wifi dropping connection and i have a belkin g+mimo router so i decided to use the router supplied by o2 and now it works perfectly. the belkin is not that old and other computers all work fine . is there an issue with what routers you can use? as both have very simular specs
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Some device/router combinations are problematic in the WiFi world.

Hard to say if this is a device (i.e. Hero) issue, or the router itself. Googling "problems connecting to belkin g+mimo" brought page several links that may point to it being more a "Belkin" issue. See here for a non-Android issue with Belkin routers and here for a G1 issue.

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garytaylor1974:
thanx dave i think i will just get a new router...any ideas? or recomends
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OlleBolleBus:
Same,same

Same problem, same router over here.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thunderglaive:
Can't the HTC hero communicate with ZyXEL routers? :confused:

Any ideas how to fix? Sorry my bad english
[Touch HD General] Noodled24:
Just wondering if there was a tweak to remap volumeup to the shutter button when in camera mode? (and only in camera mode)

The default rotate on HTC devices has always seemed a bit wrong to me. Surely it makes more sense to have the volume buttons "at the top" when in landscape mode?
[General Questions and Answers] Auweiler:
Hello everybody,

I cant get rid of the "unable to connect to server" when trying to send out mails. Receiving and Internet is fine, just sending does not work at all.

I have installed the MS fix (11/12/2008) for this problem. but no luck

I am still unable to send out a single mail

ROM Version: 3.28.407.0 GER oficial HTC release

ROM Date 05/02/08

Has someone an idea what to try next ?

thanks in advance

Michael
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
Hello

What are the differences between AT&T Tilt 2 and Touch Pro2 international version?

I know that AT&T Tilt 2 supports AT&T 3G, but is there anything else?

I see that there's some changes in the keyboard, look and color, and I found from the pictures that Touch Pro2 is nicer.

What do you say?

Really need your help

Your help is so appreciated
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pinoymutt:
The main differences are:

1. Of course the ROM (ATT specific vs. international HTC generic ROM)

2. 3G hardware bands

3. The US versions don't have a front camera for video calling like the international versions

4. The ATT keyboard has a completely different layout from the international versions

5. The ATT version has a push-to-talk (PTT) button on the side
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
Thanks for helping.

What about the color?

What do you mean about the difference in the ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
Please help
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
He means that the Tilt2 has an At&t specific ROM. A lot of bloat, tf3d modified for at&t, etc...

The color is about the same except for the back plate. On the UK version it is grey and on the tilt2 its glossy blk
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pinoymutt:
That's correct -- essentially the Tilt2 ROM has a lot of AT&T carrier specific items on it. I believe that the new international WWE ROMs with 6.5 are also using a newer version of TF3D than the AT&T ROM.

For the color, I have heard that out of the American versions of the TP2, the Tilt2 looks closest to the international version, but I would scrounge around on the web for pictures of each version if you really want to see the difference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
They have an unboxing and comparison on pocketnow.com
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
Thanks for replying guys.

OK In general, which one is better or more recommended despite 3G compatibility?

Does AT&T ROM use Windows Mobile 6.5?

And how can I get the latest AT&T ROMs available?

Thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] krabman:
Im still waiting to see if the international version has the radios and they just need to be enabled through a new radio rom to get us 3g.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
I personally despise the At&t version. I would switch to verizon before buying that piece of junk. I'm really big on the keyboard and their mutilation of the keyboard is something i just can't get on board with. I have the Euro version now and i love it (despite the 3G coverage).

Don't count on it. The hardware is present just like the touch pro and the touch diamond
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
What do you despise it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
What i despise is in the message. I thought it was pretty clear.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] hankerin:
Actually it wasn't in the message. But assume you're referring to at&t's decision to embed a keypad rather than having the number runs across the top row. Personally I much prefer this - I find typing emails much faster. Do wish, however, that they'd have switched the CAPs and Fn keys.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
Ehhh I don't see how it wasn't in the message. The difference between the keyboards is already known and i said i don't like how they mutilated the keyboard. I guess i could've dumbed it down for people to follow but it seemed pretty simple to me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] krabman:
Thats the point, I believe this might be doable and I want the international version, not AT&Ts. Still no word that I can find yet that it can be done though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
I don't think its doable because the HW isn't there. I would say you can't get a 3G signal without a 3G antenna but that is just me.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
Sorry for misunderstanding

OK, how can I get the latest AT&T ROMs available?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
I'm gonna guess that At&t will provide the ROM updates but I dunno. HTC may provide them.. Actually i'm going with HTC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
Does AT&T ROM have some issues or defects not exist in HTC TP2 ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
Hmmm I would think it wouldn't. I would think that it would just be setup for At&t with a ton of bloat and crap. I dunno for sure since i don't have the at&t tp2
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] RacerX10:
I've had my ATT Tilt 2 for almost a week now and I love it.

The keyboard layout is fantastic (works great, don't ***** till you've actually tried it) and my opinion is that it's a more attractive phone than what the other carriers are selling. It looks nearly identical to the original HTC design.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
This is a prime example of different strokes for different folks. You are just gonna have to try and it and see if u can handle the keyboard.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
Your replies are so appreciated.

The keyboard isn't a big deal, I see from the picture that keyboard is nice, is AT&T ROM Windows Mobile 6.5?

If a new rom is released, where can I download it?

And does AT&T Tilt 2 charger support 110/220 V for using in Europe and Asia?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] krabman:
Actually the hardware is there (so I read) as it has been for other phones like the diamond. Whether we will be able to access it is the issue. I want my 3G and I need both freqs so an HK unit wont do. Just have to see if the smart people can figure it out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!? That I haven't heard! If that is true then maybe i won't have to switch to verizon.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
So where and how can I get it?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
I think I got something:

http://www.htc.com/us/support_select_product.aspx

Select AT&T Tilt 2 to download guides, roms and updates, but there're no new roms and updates yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
Give it time. I think the 6.5 update ROM should show up soon enough.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] pinoymutt:
If and when ATT makes the ROM available it will be on HTC's US site under downloads for the Tilt2. As of now the ROM is not available for download yet (which many of us are waiting for).

To answer some other questions -- yes, the AT&T ROM does have Windows Mobile 6.5, but not the latest version of TF3D.

As for the chip, to my knowledge there is no physical chip that exists today that has all 4 3G bands (850/1700/1900/2100) and the QUAD band GSM needed for Europe/ASIA (850/900/1800/1900) on it. So for those folks that are waiting for a software hack to "magically" enable the other bands -- I'm afraid they will be waiting a long time. If this was the case -- people on AT&T would have purchased the T-Mobile USA version months ago and unlocked it for use on AT&T. It's like buying a regular TV and hoping you can tweak it to show 1080p HD TV -- without the hardware it's not going to happen.

IF someone can show me technical specifications that show a chip that has all 4 3G bands, I would stand corrected -- but I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist -- to be honest, there really just isn't enough money in designing it.

For some more information see the following Wikipedia page. Check the section under 3G - "Five and Six band phones (800/850/900/1700/1900/2100) are possible but none have been announced."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quad-band
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cproaudio:
They have the technology to make a phone with all the bands necessary for all the carrier in the world. The problem is the FCC will not approve it. T-Mo, ATT, Eu, Asia version of TP2 all use the same Qualcomm MSM7201 chip. The chip is dual core. 1 for app, the other for phone. The chip supports WCDMA/HSUPA and EGPRS networks. This means that MSM7201 is capable of 800, 850, 900, 950, 1700, 1800, 1900, 2100 band WCDMA/HSPA. But, just because the chip is capable doesnt mean it is enabled. Just look at the Tilt's MSM7200 chip fiasco with supposedly ATi Imageon built in.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] At0mAng:
Screens

The LCDs on the Tilt2 are different than the HTC and T-Mobile screens and look much worse. Coloring is off, hard to veiw from different angles and it just looks like crap compared to HTC TP2 and T-Mobile TP2.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
I also did not know that. Is the one from Verizon the same as the Euro?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] At0mAng:
I didn't know that until I got a chance to play with the Tilt2 and saw the difference immediately.

I am waiting for my friend to come back with replacement device and see if the newer one has same problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dscline:
I haven't seen the other TP2 models, but subjectively I'd say the screen on my Tilt 2 is great. One of the things I noticed was the LACK of color shift and legibility when viewing from off-angles. It's much better than virtually all LCD monitors I've seen. It will be interesting to see if the 2nd unit has the same issue as the 1st one you used.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] At0mAng:
It does...just got it and has same problem. I got it from same store so it might be the batch. The lack of color shift and legibility is also what I am talking about. Go into a T-Mobile store and compare the two screens. See if you can tell the difference.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
I saw that the look of Sprint TP2 is horrible.

I don't know why they didn't make it like original HTC TP2?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
Ur asking the same question i constantly ask myself about sprint and at&t. I will definitely say that At&t is no where near as bad as sprint in the looks department.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550431

Check post number 10
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] MTWIZARD:
Tilt 2

Krabman what frequencies are you looking for?

Look at Telsta phones from Australia. I have a Trouch Pro HD and a SNAP which have both 850 and 2100 which work for ATT and in most of the rest of the world.

Look at this web site I have bought many phones and very happy.

http://personaldigital.com.au

Hope this helps

MTWIZARD
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
Cool site! But they are SUPER expensive.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] HNH992:
Thanks for replying guys,

I bought HTC TP2, and it's on the way, I know it doesn't work with 3G in USA, but performance, screen and sound quality are more important.

I heard that the screen and sound quality of AT&T Tilt 2 are bad.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] r34p3rex:
I just got my Tilt 2 and i don't have a single problem people have mentioned. The screen is extra crisp, sound quality is way better than my iphone, and with the 10/19 Leo EnergyROM installed, performance couldnt' get any better! GPS lock in under 5 seconds outside!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
Have you used the Euro version? Or the versions that have a better screen and better sound quality? If you have nothing but an Iphone to compare it to then yea it will seem great.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] alwayslearning:
remember those are AU $,you have to convert it to US $ which will bring the price down.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
Yea i did that. Its still pricey. 830 dollars for TP2 is a little much. I bought mine when it first came out and only spent 700
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ilordvader:
I have ATT Tilt 2 (aka TP2 )

How do i get the Internet Sharing to work

&

How do i get weather under my Clock

also

How can i Edit the Menu list

when i clcik on Windows

in the new 6.5

cant find the programs list :(

Plz help or where do i ask these Qs ?

Link plz
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Bxsteez:
You'll probably need to do a ROM update to get the new TF3D on there. I'm not sure which wm6.5 comes on the tilt2 but some of the new builds allow you to hold down on an icon and then u can move it around.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] gramsey1911:
My Tilt 2 is not bad

1st of all...I have used each of the TP2's( Sprint,Verizon,TMO and ATT) They are all the same in my opinion...Only difference is the way ATT changed the keyboard...But there is a solution in this link:

https://www.gsm4world.us/sprint-htc-touch-pro-2-full-red-housing-cover-keyboard-d-02866_495.html

This is the entire housing...I changed the ATT Fuze keyboard that ATT screwed up about 7 months ago and it was very easy. So it can and will be done with my tilt 2. I am actually waiting for the housing to get here...Might just replace keyboard wont change housing and when I do presto a Custom ATT Tilt 2 with the stock HTC keyboard...So all ATT tilt 2 users there is an alternative. It will void warrenty but hell you could just say phone was stolen then you will get another tilt 2 if something goes wrong during the switch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] alwayslearning:
are you using the stock ROM from ATT or did you flash a custom ROM?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ilordvader:
I have Att ROM with wm 6.5

I Solved the Qs

Just not able to get the - weather under my Clock

like in HTC Hero :)

Also what are the MUST Install softwares

Eg: .Net 3.5

Flash Player 7

Adv Config

etc.......

How to Play Youtube & in my old Touch Pro

I could even Download the Video from Youtube on my

Micro Card in the Phone

how to do that in TP2 ?

Please
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] alwayslearning:
if you are using the ATT stock ROM you will not be able to get the weather under your clock on the today screen, you will have to flash a custom ROM for that. Right now I have been using Miri v5.2 with manila 2.5, I am about to flash his v 6.0 that just cam out today.

in his ROM if you go into youtube settings (upper right corner) and change from auto to fast download, everything works great. this ROM also already has net 3.5 built in

my must have apps:

HTC addicts clean Ram

Microsoft recite

total commander

weather data base editor 1.2

SKtools

audible
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ilordvader:
If I flash a custom ROM

or can i go back to Att rom ?

How Att find out if i flash rom ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] alwayslearning:
inorder to falsh a custom ROM you must Hard SPL first, read this: or here:

if you want to return it to ATT for repair you will have to chnage back to att stock ROM here:

then change back to ATT's SPL here again:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] ilordvader:
Thank You :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chizzwhizz:
do ROMS work on int. version?

Im sure this question has been asked elsewhere but im very new to the whole idea of flashing, using ROMS, etc.

Main question: Can the ROMS, themes, applications that are found in the Rhodium section be applied to the Touch pro 2 international? Im undecided on whether to get the tilt 2 or the international unlocked one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Welcome to forums

Yes they will work!

I recommend you to go for the international unlocked one:cool:

Then enter the Wiki and Rom development to learn hot to install a ROM.

Good luck,
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] chizzwhizz:
1) I have also seen this when looking at getting the hspl:

CDMA-GSM worldphone version is not accepted (RHOD400, RHOD500 modelids)

Is the international unlocked tp2 a cdma-gsm worldphone?

2) Can the international unlocked tp2 work with verizon? I know I can use att and tmobile.

Sorry if these are dumb questions...really just wanna learn as much about this phone
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] v8dave:
I got mine in Singapore 2 weeks ago and paid US$630 for it. Fully unlocked and SIM free International version and I am using it without issues in Indonesia where I live and work and when I was in Singapore it worked just fine too.

They don't have the luxury of operator pricing and offers in Indonesia (Except Telkomsel with the iPhone and some operators with Blackberry) so you have to buy the phone SIM free at the full price or as good as you can bargain it down for.

This is a great phone and worth the price I paid for it. It also helps to have the international version as the ROM updates come a lot quicker than the networks versions. Mine is now running WM 6.5 and it is much nicer to use.

Cheers

Dave...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] orb3000:
Useful info:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550431
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Sleuth255:
The HTC Rhodium is perhaps one of the best HTC devices I've ever owned. In fact, it may very well be the best device of any kind that I've ever owned period. Mine's a Tilt 2. After a few reghacks to enable HSDPA & AGPS then a couple of BT tweaks, I was off and running on the stock ROM. AT&T put everything but the kitchen sink on this one. I'm not talking about their nagware/payware stuff either, but rather many of the great free apps out there that make WM phones usable. AT&T's implementation of WM6.5 is vg too. I'm a Titanium HS fan and there are zero issues with Titanium on my TP2. I did need to load up SmartLock to enable the lockscreen on suspend (AutoDeviceLockEnable in HKLM/ControlPanel/BackLight has no effect on this ROM). All in all, I'm in shock. Here's a stock ROM that's actually usable!

HTC makes all of these devices and screens vary across the entire OEM suite. This is typical, screen production lot based and not operator specific. I'm happy to say that mine has the best screen of damn near any handheld I've ever worked with. Only my Palm Tungsten T3 (with the "warm" screen) was better.

Finally, I have a Widcomm BT stack in my HTC phone. How did it ever take this long I wonder? The Widcomm stack has always been technically superior to the M$ stack. Thanks HTC! No issues with any BT devices except my i-go keyboard.

My point is this: except for cosmetic case differences, front camera installation, keyboard layout and hardware radio frequency variants, these devices are all the same. It's the ROMs that will set them off. The Tilt 2 has a good one IMO.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mrhubris:
Hi

I hope i'm posting this in the correct section. This one seemed to make the most sense.

I have an HTC Magic from Proximus (Belgian operator) it's a 32A.

I went through a whole bunch of posts and finally rooted my device and installed cyanogenmod on it. I liked it very much but i was having trouble with my bluetooth and couldn't sync with local outlook calendar.

After a bit of searching i tried the HTC Hero 3G mod that was very nice also but again i'm having problems with my bluetooth (connects to the carkit but says it has no signal...) and i still can't sync with my outlook agenda locally.

To make it short, i'm looking for the following:

- A rom for the HTC Magic 32A (from Proximus)

- A rom that has working bluetooth so i can use my carkit

- A rom that can sync with my Outlook calendar (locally)

Maybe i didn't look good enough but i couldn't find one on the forum. Does anyone know of a ROM that is capable of all these things please?

Regards

Mrhubris
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] maxisma:
Wrong section.

To topic:

Rogers ROMs.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] mrhubris:
ok, sorry bout the wrong section then.

Is it confirmed that with a rogers rom i can sync my local outlook calendar and that bluetooth works?

Gr

Mrhubris
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DLTempler:
My T2 is not awakening on receipt of a SMS. I hear a sound; the screen stays dark.

I've been poking around here and I don't see a fix. Who gotz?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dwizzy130:
This should do it.

Install and soft reset.

dwizzy130
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] DLTempler:
Thanks. while I was looking around i found a setting in the Adv Config cab. Will be installing that shortly and if that doesnt work I can come back here for this one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] xnifex:
why does everyone say that their screen doesn't light up when the get an SMS? Is Tmobile the only carrier that kept this feature in, because mine lights up every time.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] KING SKILLZ:
i have sprint model and i cant get it 2 stop lighting up....