yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ClydeB1:
Great idea in theory, and yes I agree the forum is messy. I guess the links to note are the obvious ones, but then they are already stickies in any case - these being the mskip Flashing Tutorial, *'s video tutorial, Task29 and HSPL/SSPL. Stock ROM and Radio links are also good. There is some key information needed also like "do not use a x.xx.51.xx radio for the TMOUS 1024 device or you will brick your phone". Wiki's are also great initially, but they seem to die down and don't get maintained well in my experience. Most noob's also seem to miss them.

It seems however that many users here prefer to simply start a new thread rather than search, read and then post IN THE MOST RELEVANT THREAD. No they choose to start a new one even though 5 separate threads asking the same question already exist. This mess exacerbates the whole situation as due to the clutter it's easier to post a new thread.

I must admit though, coming from the HD forum, the Leo users seem to be a lot lazier.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] nordicfastware:
Hi Guys, Could anyone by kind enough to tell me what chef cooks Leo roms including E-reader tab from latest TMOUS together with TV tab ? If such thing does not exist, at least one chef that cooks with e-reader tab... NRG sstopped doing so... sadly...

Cheers. Thanks in advance..
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] world705:
Just uploaded

Update for HTC HD2 – New SMS Function Update

LEO_S00276-02.exe (14.7mb)

http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Fame123:
Hi World705

thanks for this new sms update.

Have you tried this update and does it work on ur htc hd2 rom?

Also in this update, have you any idea what actually is updated? or whats included in this actual update in real terms?

Many Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] MonteCristoffOn:
Update for HTC HD2 Annually Recurring Calendar Appointments

This update for HTC HD2 allows you to set recurring calendar appointments year on year.

Note: This update is only applicable to HTC HD2 (Not applicable to T-Mobile HTC HD2)

Avalaible here : Update for HTC HD2 Annually Recurring Calendar Appointments

:cool:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Wilco:
I do not exacty know what kind of help you are looking for.

But the wiki really needs updating.

For clarity of the forums, I would suggest a sticky on top with references to "Important threads", but also editing this info into the wiki.

Perhaps I could be of assistence?

PM me with more details if you need my help.
[HD2 General] THE GRIZZ:
look @ 5:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YWhijK1O0U&feature=player_embedded

video in arabic.

maybe enabling multi touch is a trivial matter. i seriously doubt that HTC modified all these apps in such short notice. so far i have seen the following apps demonstrate multi touch:

IE

opera mobile

google maps

Igo,

TF3D,

all office aplications

media player

anybody has any idea about that
[HD2 General] XRAY MAN:
These is my review :D

IE : Does not support the multi touch

opera mobile : working with multi touch

google maps : I don't know

Igo : working with multi touch

TF3D : I don't know

office : I playing with Excel and support the multi touch

media player : support multi touch

thanks
[HD2 General] THE GRIZZ:
cool (would be even cooler if you still have it), was that video shot in Gitex or Riyadh?

for multitouch on IE look at this video http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/ie-mobile-supports-multitouch-on-htc-hd2-windows-mobile-65 its probably just a newer software revision than the one in gitex. that was a very nice video btw

oh and i found this interesting answer
[HD2 General] Tomo1340:
I have to say, I don't speak any Arabic other than please/thankyou/hello/goodbye but this video review has been one of the best I have seen in terms of a tour around the device. Well done. :)
[HD2 General] rebecker:
Is there a Windows Phone (Mobile) version of IGo? I can only find an iPhone version.

Does anyone know if HD2 comes with IGo or any other navigation software out of the box?

-Bob-
[HD2 General] chris10230:
Hope that clears some stuff up
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
You must be kidding - I've been using iGo before the iPhone even appeared, and the iPhone version is a rather dumbed down one. I don't know where you can (legally) download it though.
[HD2 General] rebecker:
That's why I asked the question. :o Can you point me to the iGo for WM site?

-Bob-
[HD2 General] y1mrn:
http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/igo_8_description
[HD2 General] salamt:
I assume whenever the zoom-bar of Diamond 2 works, multituch zoom works too (this means it works in messages too) :)
[HD2 General] rebecker:
Thanks for the link.

How do you deal with the need to keep the software on the original SD card? I install most of my software on an 8GB card. Switching between the two seems impractical. And from reading the info at the site, it doesn't look like you can transfer their card data to a larger card. Or is there a way to do that which NavNGo would rather not make generally public?

Thanks.

-Bob-
[HD2 General] Nara-e-Mastana:
Does this multi touch pinch zoom functionality work while reading Mircosoft Exhange Email?

Any Idea?

--
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
You can't run a legal copy from anywhere except their card, you can't just copy the data over to another one.
[HD2 General] rebecker:
Just noticed that an 8GB card is available, so I'm assuming there's more than 6GB of free space. I could work with that.:)

I tried to find a functioning demo showing the maps AND offering examples of the voice directions. No luck. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

-Bob-
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] burst47:
i have a htc magic from vodafone with a 02 pay monthly sim which inludes 3G. It has been working perfectly fine up until i updated the system to the 1.6 Donut. I have check the APN and it seems correct. I even re-entered it but still the mobile internet doesn't work. I haven't rooted my magic so it cannot be that does anyone have any ideas????????
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] h3llg0d:
why none of the 6.5 versions available here doesn't look like this in omnia II?

link: http://www.ptnegocios.pt/portal/site/negocios/...
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] pelton:
WM 6.5

I’m using Samsung Omnia 2 and the phone looks awesome. The upgraded features of Windows Mobile 6.5 are great and have included new games like Astraware Board games, SimCity Metropolis, and Spore Trial. Truly a great phone.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] winsoestar:
Can any1 teach me how to upgrade wm 6.5 my omnia II. I bought the second hand from my fri and window is still 6.1 ... realli appreciate your help.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Coach:
I bought an Omnia

I ended up throwing it in the bin and going back to my wm 6.5 Touch Pro (XDA Serra) my son has my old Artemis with Shady's WM6.5 build on it.

The HTC'S seem far more advanced.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] kern417:
When I go to the calender tab I can see everything properly and if I go to Today and choose New Appointment it works fine. However when I choose another day I can't make a new appointment on that day so i have to go to today select new appointment and then change the date.

Also I can't select appointments that have already been made to change the date/time or delete them. Whenever I select any of these it just comes up with a white screen. The taskbar at the top is fine and the bottom is fine (it even changes when i select things...like if i select start then the bottom reads 'all programs' and 'remove') but the 'wallpaper' or whatever you want to call it remains white. i have to choose the notification manager and close out to clear the screen and return to tf3d.

is anyone else running into this problem or no a fix? I'm on the Verizon touch pro 2 and the only recent change i made was adding on the original htc touch pro 2 theme from this post. Would it change how the Calendar works?

I feel like i saw this problem when using tf3d 2.1 ports on my TP but no fixes...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dahauss:
two TP2 questions

<oops> delete this
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] lordmikkel:
hmmm

am having the same problem..i need the fix
[HD2 General] THE GRIZZ:
while the gigantic 4.3" helps in making everything finger (or even foot) friendly, its still a windows mobile device. and many of the apps require some precision are written to be used with a stylus. i cant imagine using "Pocket Artist" or copy and pasting text using my finger on a WM device.

You guys think that this will be a problem with this device.
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
it's not a problem on the iphone, why should it be a problem on a device with a bigger screen? I don't remember ever using the stylus on my HD...never needed it. I don't expect I'll need it on this device either
[HD2 General] Shasarak:
Because iPhone applications are written on the assumption that they are being used on an iPhone without a stylus. Plenty of Windows Mobile apps are written on the assumption that you are using a stylus; this includes a number of utilities built into the operating system.
[HD2 General] sthoeft:
I used the Leo ROM on my Xperia X1 and can say as long as you stay inside windows (or said different inside the shipped software) you won't get any problems, its very finger friendly and I never went down to an old wm 6 skin. concerns are only there if you want to use some 3rd party software. there might be a problem with finger usage like said above or somewhere else as they don't have to be finger optimized.
[HD2 General] Teneka_Khan:
Personally - I think it will be fine. Also with later revisions of WM6.5 and then hopefully WM7 I think the phone will get easier IF there are any issues. The issues will only occur when you come out of the HTC Sense layer anyway, which won't be that often.
[HD2 General] 12aon:
I thought HTC patented the capacitive stylus?
[HD2 General] omaga:
Lack of stylus will not be a issue at all with that huge screen...I think. We see when its in our hands. Hope it will be very soon:p
[HD2 General] rebecker:
I'm using a TyTN II and almost never dig out the stylus. Over time I moved to apps that were finger friendly. And with the current design trends, I'm guessing even more apps will become available that don't require a stylus.

-Bob-
[HD2 General] chris10230:
afaik yes but on no pics can you find where it is placed i think and then they will probably release it with a largish price tag like the car dock...
[HD2 General] Noam23:
All of you who are using resistive screens with LEO ROM, your impressions are worthless (regarding how the LEO ROM will behave on the real HD2) because resistive screens are more accurate than capacitive screens, even if you use just your finger (not to mention you can still use fingernail with resistive).

HTC said that since the LEO has capacitive screen, it can not operate well without the new MANILA, and for that reason, they said that they didn't give an option to disable MANILA, and went even further to say that if some programer will try to disable it, they did everything they could in order for him to find it "very challenging".
[HD2 General] 12aon:
What makes you say this? There have been plenty off leo roms out that seem to leave that function intact
[HD2 General] Dark Fire:
I don't use my Touch Diamond's stylus, and the Touch Diamond has a much smaller screen so I think the huge screen of the HD2, coupled with the capacitive touch sensivity, should be fine.

And if that second bit is true, I'm surprised because that means they went to the trouble of making it easy to disable TouchFLO 3D and TouchFLO on older devices...
[HD2 General] Noam23:
True, because the TouchFLO 3D and TouchFLO were sold on devices with *resistive* screens, these devices can handle Windows Mobile screens without any trouble. The HD2 on the other hand has the capacitive screen, and HTC knows that operating the WM UI with such device is going to be a problem, such a problem that no one even believe capacitive will reach WM before version 7.0, yet HTC came with the MANILA 2.5 solution, so I can very much understand them when they say they don't want you to defeat MANILA 2.5.
[HD2 General] ringy2:
O2 are offering me this phone as an upgrade. I need a decent keyboard and am loathed to part with my TP2!

Does anyone have any experience of using any of the screen "keyboards" for emails etc? If so, can it really replace the hardware keyboard?
[HD2 General] kjt57:
May be a silly question, I don`t know much about different screen types but cant you just use another stylus instead of your finger? I always have a pen/stylus in my pocket at work and never use the provided stylus with my HD:confused:
[HD2 General] Gajet:
You need a special kind of stylus for capacitive screens.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-CAPACITIV...ries_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item2ea897a251
[HD2 General] Moandal:
Very interesting information Noam23. Being able to use a phone effectively with your finger most of the time when you have to use your finger all of the time is not acceptable to me.

I also have the same issue mentioned in your other post where I would want to turn off Manila/HTC-Sense. The fact that they've tried to prevent this proves how unusable WM6.5 is on a capacitive screen.

Oh well, that's just saved me a lot of money! :)
[HD2 General] Toss3:
Maybe you should try it before drawing any conclusions?

Really interested in seeing how Opera performs on the HD2 and whether or not clicking links is difficult.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
It's easy to tap small links on the iphone, why should it be difficult on the HD2? All this "it won't be possible to use because of the capacitive screen" debate is just FUD, IMO.
[HD2 General] manuelcalavera:
dont compare iphone with hd2 cuz with more pixels , pushing is much easier
[HD2 General] adesonic:
There have also been Leo roms that do not give you the opition of turning off "sense" in fact that do not provide the WM Today settings option at all. Having said all that, it will only be a matter of weeks before the good folk here at XDA find out how to enable cHome or whatever.
[HD2 General] Dark Fire:
My whole point is that you implied that HTC has deliberately tried to make previous versions of TouchFLO 3D disableable, which means that they expected people to want to revert to the standard WM homescreen. That's surprising...
[HD2 General] carlos_polanco:
Stylus???

The LACK of stylus wont be an issue! I've been using a Sprint touchPRO for months and I dont use it at all! Imagine having a huge-capacitive screen and a better Windows Mobile [6.5.1]!!! It'll be grrrreat.
[HD2 General] martoto:
The question is not if someone will or won't miss the stylus. The real important question is: shall ALL WM’s features and apps be usable with capacitive screen? Because, everyone knows that if you do not leave the TouchFlo you can skip the stylus...and leave out the most of real advantages of WM device. Specifically, these are the huge amount of really useful and powerful programs, tools and games that are developed for precise (stylus) screen interaction in mind and only for WM. Without these apps I'll go for iPhone or Android. They both were designed for capacitive screen by scratch, their interfaces are better and are overall much better when speaking to finger optimized interface (everywhere, not only for basic everyday work like TouchFlo + WM).
[HD2 General] Moandal:
Well said that man!
[HD2 General] dickenz:
IMHO a lot of what you're all saying about TF3D and Sense not being able to be disabled is a bit silly - What if it's not even cooked into a chef's ROM and Titanium is? Then it's never enabled, thus disabled and Titanium becomes the UI.

I am fairly sure HTC wouldn't have shot themselves in the foot by releasing such a feature packed phone with a capacitive screen on WM if it was horrible to use in 50% of the apps compared to a resistive screen. Especially with the release of Marketplace and the apps that'll be coming to that. I'll bet you guys unsure if it'll work will be thoroughly surprised.

From reviews I've read of the TP2 the screen has always been praised for it's awesome level of sensitivity as close to a capacitive as any resistive screen before it. Taking this into account it would have made ten-fold more sense for HTC to improve the resistive screen's sensitivity again rather than swap to a capacitive screen and have terrible sales because half the apps on the device don't work!

Then again HTC could prove my thoughts wrong and release it with those faults ~ ala the Cruise, Kaiser then Diamond, Touch Pro etc video chip saga!!! Guess time will tell :)
[HD2 General] precsmo:
I wouldn't worry about it, we just need to get used to it, and which ever touch screen types have their pros and cons. Capacitive make us operate the phone with much responsive few and multitouch works well! And I rarely use hand writing in phones, no matter what, I never find it as a reliable way to input texts.
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
4.5 In screen and finger friendly applications :eek: NOT NEED OF A STYLUS
[HD2 General] audscott:
I tend to agree: The iPhone has tons of games and finger friendly apps, used without a stylus......it would be foolish for HTC to provide any less.
[HD2 General] adesonic:
I suspect part of what is going on here is a segmentation of the WM market by HTC, there are already plenty of WM devices with and without physical keyboards that are great for business/ handwriting/sketching/ rugged form factors etc. etc. - a clue lies in O2's brochure where they make a point of the media readines of the HD2 - methinks, it is being pitched as a music/ movies/ games (any good WM games??) consumer targetted device akin to the iphone as opposed to a busines device which is firmly the territory of devices like the TP2 (IMHO). You are then left with the question of whether there will be enough apps to satisfy everyones needs on what is a fingers only Windows Phone
[HD2 General] sgiannis:
Never satisfied customers

I find this conversation a bit strange... albeit expected! Up until the first leaks for capacitive screen on the HD2, the main complaint on WM is the resistive screen and the lack of 'finger-friendliness'. Now that the HD2 is out with capacitive screen, people are not sure it'll be any good cause some applications might not work...!

In my opinion, the dilemma is obsolete. WM OS, as it is now, is not capacitive-screen friendly... Maybe it will be with WM7 but until then, if someone wants full WM experience, the touch pro 2 is still the best device out there (or maybe the original HD)... I mean, the screen on TP2 is amazingly responsive anyway and with a few tweaks gets even better.

HTC are doing a great job, but they needed sth against the iPhone, hence the HD2. It is clearly directed to people that make casual use of their phones. But then again, for this market the iPhone is much better... so it's all down to what people want and not whether resistive is better than capacitive and vice versa...
[HD2 General] xma1e:
What's the point in getting WinMo phone if not for the apps?

I'm really suprised that people would buy this phone and never leave HTC Sense, why not just go for an Andriod phone? Also, for all it's faults, WinMo is such a flexible OS, I can customise it's pants off.

I have been using a PocketPC right from the original iPAQs (happy memories), I wouldn't be interested in the HD2 unless I was able to put my existing apps on. My main app is now Copilot 8, which should be fine as it's very finger friendly, although I have a couple of smaller apps I've been using with WM 6.5.1 (HTC Diamond) and are difficult to operate without the stylus. I haven't a clue when they will be updated. One, a media player, claimed to be finger friendly but the moment you start to browse it drops to a skimpy little, teeny, weeny file browser (doh).

I know I'm going to get one (HD2) because I'm so entrenched in WinMo, I know my way around it. Hopefully it wont be long before people on this site start releasing ROMs. Just need to get my grubby mits on one first. No running till I can walk
[HD2 General] Dude!:
NOT having a stylus would be a major deal breaker for me. I only use my Tilt2 for business and personal productivity. No games, only tech pod-cast and business video, so I never use the key pad. Why would you use a key pad when you have hand writing recognition or Block lettering which is 2-3 times faster input than a keypad?

I take meeting notes, work on customer drawings and wiring diagrams so a stylus is imperative. If AT&T had an Imagio version with the 3.6" screen I would have bought that but the Pure 3.2" screen was not adequate.
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
in Your case You can found an alternative because HTC is working in a patent to ad an stylus also for capacitive screens.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Because it requires a stylus. I absolutely hate the thing.
[HD2 General] Dude!:
To each his own, but I guess some people do not use it for technical drawings or really detailed input. I just find it much, much faster than the keypad/keyboard.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
For drawing I would sure need it. However, the attached styluses (styli?) are too thin and too short for being convenient drawing tools. If I needed such input, I would certainly consider something pen-sized.

Don't know what you mean by "really detailed input".
[HD2 General] Dude!:
Vangrieg, I do not disagree with you at all on these points. As far as the Styli, I hope they get back to the size they were with the HTC Blue Angle, that is something usable/comfortable. As for drawings I do a lot of computer room wiring, manufacturing and chemical plant diagrams and schematics, so that is the type of detail I am referring to.
[HD2 General] Moandal:
Text selection

Thanks to MAMeingast who posted this link in the Blackstone forum:

http://pocketnow.com/software-1/selecting-text-on-the-htc-hd2

So by implementing selection tags into the HTC Sense UI, they accept that selecting text without a stylus is otherwise impractical. Too bad then, that it only works in Sense and so not in Word Mobile or other apps.

WM6.5 & capacative screen = no use to me.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Jesus, people, why do you all have to be so paranoid about this?

Do you have a device with Manila? If yes, go to messaging and try to select something there. Then think again why they implemented selection there. (Hint: you can't select text in pre-Leo Manilas at all. It's not "accepting" anything, it's implementing a must-have feature in a place where it was absent. In a non-standard (and probably better then standard) way). It probably does suck that they didn't spread this to regular WM applications, but it doesn't mean that anything there is "impractical", and especially not because of the capacitive screen.
[HD2 General] Moandal:
There's nothing "paranoid" about being able to foresee the hassles and problems that mixing a capacitive screen with an OS and all the 3rd party apps designed for a stylus is going to cause.

Of course all the time you're fiddling with a fat finger and a 4-step process to select text you'll be convincing yourself that it's not really a problem at all, and you don't really miss the simplicity, precision and speed of a stylus. And when you've forked out £500 for yur Leo, you WILL get used to it. ;)
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
I don't use the stylus, absolutely hate the idea about using it and won't miss it for a second. The hysteria about the capacitive screen that will make matters worse is FUD, nothing else. At least until proven otherwise with some evidence, not mere speculation.
[HD2 General] Moandal:
No speculation required. If you want evidence, just try quickly, reliably and accurately selecting text in Word mobile with your finger.

Of course given that you seem to have some sort of stylus-phobia, I'm sure a capacitive screen will suit you just fine. But you'd be even better off with an OS that was designed from scratch for finger use.