yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] precsmo:
that thread sounds kinda disappointed if it is true, but I really hope it is exactly the same capacitive type of screen like iPhone and iPod Touch! The reason is, the feel between the two are really different. I personally find that resistive screen has a cheap feeling to me as it has a soft thin layer on top with visible dots, and the gap between the layer can feel very easily. However, true capacitive screen feels like it is entirely glass top, it is very solid and handling the device with the screen is a joy. Just a tiny touch of the screen will have instant response from capacity screen, so, I personally prefer iPhone capacitive screen, and I really hope this is not true!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HD2 General] Isobuster:
That's right... :)
[HD2 General] rebecker:
From HTC's website: The world’s first capacitive touch technology on a Windows® phone

Works for me.
[HD2 General] TrYde:
Then you have never seen true capacitive screens. They have a layer of conductive wires just behind the glass top. On the 40 inch capacitive screen I use, you can clearly see them even at maximum brightness.
[HD2 General] hassan:
I've seen the dots on blackberry storm too, I've got Pre and once i've notice too, but both of the screen made of hard glass and very bright.

They both are capacitive screens.
[HD2 General] forelli:
Gloves

Whatever the screen is, I just need it to be glove-compatible, just like the Omnia, Omnia 2, Blackstone but UNLIKE iPod Touch (which i have), and iPhone. How do you communicate in winter with a full touch screen, and with wm 6.5.1 which might not allow answering with the hard "answer" button? My Omnia 2 is out of order: the antenna is broken(?) anyway i don't have any network reception. When it comes back from servicing in 2-3 weeks, I just sell it and buy a HD2.

forelli
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
it's never going to be 'glove compatible' you need to touch the screen with a conductive item..ie your hand, metal stylus etc. a glove will not work
[HD2 General] br3nt:
I started thinking about the same thing today since I live in sweden, and came up with the solution:

use your nose! :p its gonna look funny as hell, but I aint taking my gloves of when the winter hits hard
[HD2 General] forelli:
shame

Thnaks for the answer. what a pity: i think the blackstone with 1 Ghz Snapdragon is the best alternative, or the Omnia 2 and its 800 Mhz cpu with a more comprehensive GUI and a bigger screen...
[HD2 General] lude219:
It's called the Acer NeoTouch (F1) ;)
[HD2 General] precsmo:
even if it is true, but it is 4.3" vs 40", it is way too far to compare and if the 4.3" can ever notice the wires? At least iPhone look like just one whole piece of solid glass touch screen, and that is what I prefer:):)
[neoTouch S200 General] light_n_roses:
Hi everybody !!

I'm new in the forum and first of all I would like to say hello to everybody !

I'm writing here because I need to change my phone and I'm looking around to see what can I get, actualy I have restricted the choise to the acer neotouch and maybe to the lg GM750 ( actualy I really like the LG interface of this phone but the hardware of the phone is not that great so I'll probably pass this one ). I have same doubts because I don't know many thing about customizing windows mobile and I would like to know if it could be possible ( for example ) to install the new THOUCHFLO manila 2.6 on the acer neo touch or the LG S-Class interface always on the acer neotuch, without many problems.

Thanks.
[neoTouch S200 General] freco:
As far as Manilla is ported to WVGA resolution you sure can on Acer S200. Manilla 2.1 is reported working already with some small problems that can be fixed.

I use custom taskbar, theme, titanium plugins found in this forum without any problems on my Acer S200.

Take a look here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=566351
[neoTouch S200 General] light_n_roses:
so also windows mobile 6.5 still suffers of the 65k color limitation...time ago I red that this can be solved, at least for the video playback, by using some multimedia player that eneble more color on the screen, is that true ?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hotweiss:
I am trying to compile a fully working kernel for the new sense ROM, and for some reason I cannot get the Bluetooth working - it doesn't even want to turn on. The problem seams to be related to the source. The source that I am using is Google's 2.6.27 source. If I try to use cyanogen's source, the display does not function. Any ideas?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hotweiss:
I just used the official HTC source and everything is working now.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] TheMorpheus:
I'm following you on Twitter and after reading this topic the question is automatic: when do you guess to release your new rom? Is going to be for 32A o 32B?

Thanks
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hotweiss:
It's going to be 32A, and I will release the ROM tonight. I have everything working now. Now I am going to optimize everything.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] GyD:
What about GPS? ^^
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] TheMorpheus:
Yes man, this is awsome...Looking forward to it!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Rede83:
GPS is working with the HTC kernel, as he said above.

Some people have mentioned on other ROMs that the WiFi tethering doesnt work. Have you tested that yet hotweiss?

Also, will wipe be required for v2 to v3?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hotweiss:
The WiFi should be working, as I have successfully compiled it.

I don't know whether we'll need a wipe or not yet. I have been testing after always doing a wipe just so I don't have any confounding issues.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jfive74:
What about word prediction? Flash in browser seems different, couldn't play videos straight from youtube site when using redglass version of sense ROM. None the less, good job and thank you in advance. Like the.fact that your taking your time to test and release something decent. Nice.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] skittleguy:
I'm most concerned with the sms timestamp issue. There are a bunch of Hero/Sense roms that work great, but that timestamp issue is a dealbreaker every time.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hotweiss:
The timestamp issue still exists. I would use Chomp SMS until the Rogers verion comes out.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hotweiss:
Haven't had time to play around with the Browser yet...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jfive74:
cant we use timestamp issue fix from before? on hofo rom 1.08 i believe or any other rom?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jasrups:
While it is certainly a nuisance to us Rogers Magic users, the sms timestamp issue is a small price to pay for a stable SenseUI IMO. This will be my first SenseUI ROM other than MyHero, I'm looking forward to trying it out! Take your time hotweiss, it's better to release a ROM that has most of its kinks worked out rather than rushing and having to constantly re-patch.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] :No-Frost::
If everything is working... If is multilanguage (I really want spanish on it) and if it has predictive dictionary... Then I will definetly download your rom :D ...

Thanks in advance for everything... =D
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] helderp:
I'm waiting anxiously for your "creation". I still have stock rom, bought my Magic 32A almost 3 months ago, but was waiting for the right moment to install a custom rom, wich I think is now :) Multilanguage for me is also a must, so don't forget the portuguese guys, please. Anyway, thank you very much for your efforts. Best regards.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] hotweiss:
The only two languages that are available: English and Chinese :(
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] :No-Frost::
Damn :(... Would be possible to add more languages using files from a Hero Rom or another magic rom???
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] daeshawn:
whats the ETA?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] NguyenHuu:
according to his twitter: "Everything works now and everything has been added. Now I just need to zipalign and optimize the apk's." - about 1 hour ago

hopefully soon! i would like to try this out.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
I just bought a new SD card, 4 GB, class 4. And my old one was only 2 GB, not sure what class. And i'm not sure what steps i need to do to get everything i had on my old one and get everything to be the same as before without any problems.

My sd card is partitioned and has linux swap with ext 2 converted to ext 3.

Phone is rooted and running MLIGN-Hero 2.5.5 and i think my apps are on my sd card, but not 100% sure.

And also i'm using Amon Ra's Custom Recovery v1.2.2 and used that to partition my sd card.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackElvis79:
Do a nandroid back-up. After you do that, on your PC, copy the nandroid folder from your SD to your desktop. Then, format and partition your new 4 gig SD. I would make the ext3 and linux-swap partition the same size as you had them on the 2 gig SD. Finally, copy the nandroid folder on your PC desktop to the 4 gig SD, put it in the phone, boot into recovery, and run a nandroid restore. Everything should be good.

Just incase you need it...

parted /dev/block/mmcblk0
mkpartfs primary fat32 0 xxxx
mkpartfs primary ext3 xxxx yyyy
mkpartfs primary linux-swap yyyy zzzz

quit

upgrade_fs

reboot (or) reboot recovery
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
thanks, i really appreciate it. i'll try it out now. i'll make another quick reply when i'm done to say if everything worked out fine.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
ok this is weird, when i go to to the nandroid backup it says "Error : Backup not performed!"

EDIT: nvm i fixed it. i just had to reboot.

EDIT: nvm again, it worked for a little while then the same error message showed up again.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
didnt work, i got stuck in a boot loop at the hero loading screen, im just gonna use my old one for now then ill have to go back to the store and trade in the 4 gb sdcard for a new one and try again.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
wtf?!?! now none of my apps work! as soon as i open it and then try to click on something inside the app i get a force close (the one where it doesnt have the option to "wait")
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
nvm i just did a nandroid restore from my old sdcard.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maek_it_happen:
sumtime nandroid can't finish if there is not enough room left on the card
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
hmm... makes sense. i'll try and remove some stuff from my old sd card then backup again.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Basket Lotioner:
I don't believe nandroid backs up your SD also. Just internal flash. So you'll need to find another way, I believe you can do this through adb
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
sorry for being a noob here but what is adb again? i completely forgot.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Basket Lotioner:
Here
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
thanks but umm... i think i'll just stick to my 2 GB sdcard, lol. way too confusing stuff and way too much to read and understand. i'm a major noob when it comes to android and i know i would screw alot of stuff up with that, i always do. thanks for the help anyways though.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maek_it_happen:
u could jus use nandroid and back up for root users , format and partition ur new card using amon then just restore the nandroid and back up !
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
well, i wish it was that easy. i think my new sdcard is broken anyways, when i did it the first time, i got stuck in a boot loop. then i went back to recovery, got rid of my ext 3 i think or something like that, and then i put it in my computer and formatted it, and then did it all over again, and then this time my apps didnt work, actually, wait i think i know what you mean... hmmm.... brb i'm gonna try what you basically said. sorry for all the typing, i have a habit of over typing things, lol.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
well, ran in to a major problem. now everytime i try to do anything i get an error saying to run _________ (<--whatever it says) via console. so is my sdcard broken? cause i really dont feel like going out and buying a anew one.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AnThNeE:
how much room does nandroid need?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wencyv:
would there be an application that will turn on the device when it's OFF. Reason behind this is that my power button wasn't working anymore so I need an app to turn on my phone. Apparently, my alternate route is using AE button plus for turning off, and to turn on my phone is that I have to take out the stylus, but I noticed that it used to consume battery usage...if I take it out on the second time it will eat up 2% of the battery usage...and I had even tried using the switch display off/on with the AE button plus but it will make my usage with my phone for upto 8 complete hours only....before I can even use my phone upto 12-14 hours...

if not an application, maybe remapping or registry hack will help..

please I need some help..

thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wencyv:
anyone who could share or help.....thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bmw2320:
What type is ur pda? Do u mean turn on from COMPLETELY turn off?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] littld:
Go to Start,Settings,System,Key Lock and set it to "Do not lock buttons".

This way, any button press on any button will wake the device. You might want to lock it before switching off so you don't dial people by mistake.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wencyv:
iam using HTC diamond and currently have the SUN 6.1 with 2.5 manila version, but it seems that the keylock doesn't work properly on that ROM

thanks for all your help, just asking some other options here
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] kevmass:
I was just wondering has anybody come across a beta test of windows mobile 7 yet ????

if so where can i get it ?

i am just itching to get my hands on it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] aruppenthal:
Even if someone did get their hands on it most likely the touch pro 2 would not even run it. It is not even close to the minimum requirements MS has listed for devices.

WM7 Chassis 1 Specification

Core requirements:

Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia “Tegra” AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)

Memory: 256MB+ DRAM, 1G+ Flash (at least 512MB fast flash – 5MB/s unbuffered read @4K block size)

Display: WVGA (800×480) or FWVGA (854×480) 3.5” or greater diagonal

Touch: Multi-touch required

Battery: Sufficient to meet Days of Use LTK requirements.

Controls: Start, Back, Send and End are required (soft controls allowed as long as they are always present).

Peripherals:

Camera: 3MP+, flash optional, 2nd camera optional (VGA resolution sufficient)

GPS: aGPS required

Sensors required: Light Sensor, Compass (3 axis, 5 degrees, 100 Hz sample rate), Accelerometer (3 axis, 2mg resolution, 100 Hz sample rate)

USB: High speed required, 20 MB/s transfer rate.

BlueTooth: BT2.1 required, must run MSFT BT stack, CSR BlueCore6 or later recommended.

Wi-Fi: 802.11B/G required, must run MSFT Native Wi-Fi stack, Atheros 6002 or Broadcomm 4325 recommended.

Connectors: Micro USB and 3.5mm Audio required.

Options:

FM tuner: If tuner HW is present it will be detected and supported by the Media application.

Haptics

SD Card (Micro SD recommended)

DPAD, qwerty or 12/20 key keyboards all optional
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Nope, and the latest speculation is on this thread : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=554981

Ta

Dave
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] marucapower:
hello =) i have a question i dont know if anyone has this issue as me im using opera browser to open the new site touch.facebook.com but when im trying to view photos they only show in a small size and when i click on it doesnt go bigger..anyone having this issue?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
its just touch.facebook.com? i tried it says it cant find it
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dwizzy130:
http://touch.facebook.com/#home.php

dwizzy130
[HD2 General] mojohio:
Let's just get this thread started, so we don't have to go searching thru various threads and sites to find out any possible news regarding the HD2 coming to AT&T in the US. This is the basis of this new thread:

Grandpanda- my butt is falling asleep! I'm on the edge of my seat, waiting word of this possibility. I was shocked to see the text HD2 and att in the same sentence. Please let us know as soon as you hear anything.
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
I'm Not Shure what Grandpanda hear but I'm very Interesting to know if the HD2 come to AT&T.
[HD2 General] t-readyroc:
Where would this unit fit in their lineup with the Diamond2 on the lower end & the iPhone on the higher end? Don't get me wrong, I'd be very interested to see this phone come to AT&T, but I'm not sure how they'd manage it...
[HD2 General] mojohio:
They better find a way to manage it- or they will end up losing a lot of customers that would like the iphone experience with the flexibility of Windows Mobile. I would suspect that could cost them millions of dollars in lost 2-year contracts if Sprint, Verizon, or T-Mobile releases the HD2. What good is it to remain loyal to the iphone while hundreds of loyal customers get fed up I leave. They were already the last one's to release the Touch Pro 2. It's time to take care of the WM users who want the the high-end phones, or they will go elsewhere to escape the iphone prison they are trapped in.
[HD2 General] bugsy:
Where it fits in the lineup might be directly related to when their iphone exclusivity ends. I believe it's sometime next year, but I haven't seen a specific date. The other question would be what does the next gen iphone look like relative to the HD2. One thing going for the iphone is it's apparent ease of use, at the expense of flexibility, for the average consumer. It's brought a lot of people into the smartphone ranks and has certainly driven data revenue for ATT. It will be interesting to see what direction Apple takes with the iphone as more and more handsets come to market with similar features and better flexibility.

I use an iphone now, but can't wait to get my hands on an HD2 with ATT 3g, either through them or one brought in from Australia when it launches there.
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
Is good idea but the 3G band don't work in AT&T HSDPA network,just can connect using EDGE 12 not bad.
[HD2 General] t-readyroc:
I couldn't agree w/you more. I'm actually almost already there with the Droid going to Verizon.

I think you're right on with this assessment.
[HD2 General] bugsy:
You are correct with the current version, but I was referring to if an ATT version is released. I think we can also expect to see a version in Australia if we go by the previous HD release. If that is the case it would have the 850Mhz band which is compatible with ATT.
[HD2 General] jblade1000:
edited - had the wrong phone
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
hey bugsy this is a very good idea:D
[HD2 General] Alaxar:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo

Lets hope this is true

HTC HD2 US (HTC Leo) Specs

GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
[HD2 General] 10332007:
I really hope ATT gets this in a reasonable amount of time. My TP2 is falling apart :)

However I would be willing to import the Aussie version is it will be compatible.
[HD2 General] mojohio:
+1 = Lets hope that is true. I would spend the extra money and purchse the unlocked one, which would allow us not to have to be held prisoners while other companies release this phone and att chooses not to because of their affinity with the iphone. My question is.....withe the specs of the bands for this particular phone, which carriers would it provide total support for all bands- both Edge and 3G. ATT? T-Mobile? Verizon? Sprint? Would HTC invest in releasing an unlocked HD2 to one of these carriers, but not eventually release a branded carrier-specific one in the near future? It seems like if they spent the time to create it, it would be released by the carrier it supports at a lower discounted price. Either way- just make one with full Att support, and I'll be picking one up the next day!
[HD2 General] galaxys:
Unfortunately, those are "Datasheet State: Preliminary specifications" which means pdadb has know idea till the specs are finalized...
[HD2 General] 10332007:
Sprint and Verizon are CDMA networks so the GSM versions of the phone from ATT / Tmobile would not be compatible.
[HD2 General] lantern20:
I don't really care if AT&T actually carries the phone officially. I hope that it when it gets released it will just support the AT&T bands. I'm going unbranded if possible! Just want the 3G speed is all! :p
[HD2 General] mojohio:
Ditto. If you think about it- an ipod Touch costs $450, then you by the HD2 to replace that, as well as serve as your phone. I won't have a problem convincing myself to buy the unbranded US 3G version, as long as it supports all AT&T bands.
[HD2 General] DialecticThought:
If history is a predictor of future behavior, AT&T will be late to the game if it appears at all. Chances are likely that we will only see the 850 mhz 3g band on Telstra (AUS), as it did with the Touch HD with it's hiked up price tag nearing the $1k mark. I hope I'm wrong as I am praying it comes to AT&T as well.
[HD2 General] MrObvious:
If AT&T is the only carrier (which I doubt because T-Mobile is getting it from all indications) or GSM is only what this phone will do that will suck. I hope CDMA gets it because where I live AT&T and T-Mobile both don't cover our area.
[HD2 General] x5-rwk:
I did send an email to HTC USA about the possibility of an unbranded/unlocked HD2 being produced for the US market and what carriers might be branding the phone for their networks. Not good news at this time but here was their response.

Hello XXXXX,

We thank you for the question about what carriers will have the HD2 in North America and if we are going to create an unlocked version of the HD2 that works on North American 3G networks. We will be more than happy to help you in this situation. Unfortunately we do not have any plans to launch an unlocked version of the HD2 in North America. If this stance changes it would be published as a news release on our American and Canadian websites. As for carriers picking up the device, it is up to them to get the device on their network and sell it. The carrier would be the place to ask in this situation as they usually brand the device as their own and sell it as their own. Anything on the internet that is not on a carriers website or our own can be considered rumor.
[HD2 General] julian2596:
i think att would be the last one to get the hd2 phone
[HD2 General] julian2596:
who is grandpanda
[HD2 General] afstefan:
:eek:

That is the stupidest thing I have heard. I am sick of having the iphone shoved in my face anytime I go near an AT&T store. Whenever I have talked to one of their employees it was always how the iphone can do this and that and nothing else can compare :confused: of course nothing in the store will compare (supposedly) if you just choose to not let anything :mad:
[HD2 General] sociojeje:
ok let me be clear now

i just got 8585 this morning as a sample.

i'm on at&t and only get edge signal. i've read this thread and seems like it is impossible to use 3g internet on at&t with this phone.

will there be this any solution for this? or is it basically impossible to get at&t 3g with this phone?
[HD2 General] moosic:
It is impossible. You must import one from Australia.
[HD2 General] godsafk:
I purchased my phone unlocked and I am now using it on the AT&T Network and I'm loving it. I had a phone plan with AT&T for my iPhone so the switch to the HD2 was easy.

Loving this phone!
[HD2 General] jamal1782:
godsafk

where did you buy it at?