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[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] wassimmikati:
I've got the new HTC Stock WM6.5 ROM, too. The battery power indicator issue has a fix, just download and install Batti. I use it, it's free and works great.

Although overall I see a few improvements, I have several things I'd like to see fixed (I do not use Manila as it's a pain and a battery drain):

(1) I really liked having instant access to my 12 favourite applications through the Start dropdown menu. Now tapping Start shows ALL programs, which is a big pain as I use certain applications (such as Opera or Google Maps) all day and I hate having to scroll down to get to them every time. Even if I left them running, tapping the "running programs" icon in the top right never seems to show Opera for some reason.

(2) Block Recognizer is gone! In fact every input method except the Touch Keyboard has disappeared. I used to be able to walk and write without looking because I knew all the gestures for the letters. Now I have to sit down and focus on every letter. Is there a patch to bring Block Recognizer back??

(3) Speaking of the Start Menu items, this Hexagonal thing is supposed to look cool and funky but to me it looks haphazard and disorganized. And who designed the interface for moving the icons??? Fortunately there is a fix for that too, in the form of Icon Changer at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=567080. I haven't tried it yet but I hear it works well. But we shouldn't need a third-party patch for something that should have been taken for granted in interfaces 10 years ago.

(4) Message thread history. When viewing the history half of the screen is taken up by the infernal keyboard. Whether I leave it on (making navigation impaired) or tap the button to bring it down, scrolling up to the "Older" Messages link makes the phone very confused. The keyboard disappears and pops back up, and the scroller on the right flickers for a few seconds. It's very strange and very distracting when I'm trying to navigate old messages.

(5) Messages are WAY out of order in a thread, meaning that for close contacts, with whom I've amassed about 200+ messages, I have to flick through page after page of old messages to get to one relatively recent one. All the while putting up with (4).

Any help on some of these would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

WM
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
Can't re-send failed SMS messages

This was a problem with 6.1 as well but they appear to have made it even worse in 6.5. When an SMS message fails to send due to no signal, you get a message saying so. The message then ends up in draft messages.

Now first of all this is pretty poor design IMHO. I had a Motorola Razr before and that just kept trying to send the text message. I knew that once I'd hit send, it WOULD BE SENT! Even if it was two weeks before I got a mobile signal.

This idea of going into drafts is one where I side with the iPhone crew of poor functionality because of the Windows heritage.

Anyway, given this is where we are - with 6.1, it ended up on Drafts - but what you could do is open the message and move into "Outbox" and it would send.

They appear to have blocked this in 6.5. You get a message saying you cannot do that. I would be okay if there was a "Send" or "Resend" but there isn't. I'm having to forward the message and then delete the original.

I'm hoping somebody tells me there is a better way.

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
I think battery charging is faster esp. when in a cradle. Before, I could leave my phone in the cradle all day at work and it would never fully recharge. I had got into the habit of turning it off. Quite why ActiveSync insists on keeping the screen on I don't know.

However, with 6.5, the green light usually is on by about lunchtime.

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] coldcarbon:
Don't set it to repeat all. That will just play the same song over and over until you switch. If you remove that option, then the next song in the album should play automatically.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] marjanot:
Battery information doesn't work for me. It stays at 0 hours in all categories.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] dlarge:
Close start menu with Windows Button

Hello, I was wondering if there is a tweak to close the start menu again with the Windows button (like in Windows mobile 6.1).

Problems so far with the Dutch Rom:

- Home screen and clock reload after pressing task manager (flip clock shows different time and then flips to the right time)

- I think battery drainage is worse, not sure yet

- Memory load is very high, first about 50% and after an hour 72%. This wasn't an issue in 6.1
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Scoooby555:
This is not a bug, it is a feature. Everytime homescreen reloads, clock goes 1h 1min back and then reloads to the right time. It goes together with animated screen. :)

I'm thinking going back to 6.1. :mad:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
That happen to me too... till today. I charge second time tonight, and now the info is not with "0" any more.

Many people is thinking that the clock animation when restoring to home menu is a bug. It's just an animation, ok. Like the weather...

Here's something else: The charging time with stock cable take too long. With a USB Nokia cable and stock charger, took much less time. ????? Strange!

Some other info: USB 1.1 PC port may not be strong enough to charge the phone. Connect always to USB 2.0 (usually in the back) ports.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
Huurrr.... I'm furious.

I touch the Volume keys (on the left side of the phone), and it crashes again....

When I touch that keys, nothing related to the volume happens. Instead, the phone get's really slow, and some seconds later, windows mobile gives an error with "services.exe".

This happens everytime I touch the volume keys. I must restart the phone to get everything back to normal. Now, I went to the battery info, and is all "0" again - all values were reseted.

I believe the problem with services.exe reset the battery info.

Anyone with this problem... of volume keys????

PMoto
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Scoooby555:
My volume keys work fine. Never got an error with services.exe. Although my battery info are allways 0.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
I found it... finally i found what is causing services.exe to crash.

I have a taskbar installed. I removed it and i have volume keys working again.

I Will try to get another one fixed for WM6.5

Now, my battery log data was reseted, so I think that I will get it back some time later... I hope.

PMoto
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] prabhat:
Where did you got the fix for this?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] funkyr:
anyone know how to change the order of the icons in the hexagon start menu thing?

thx
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] -KJ-:
The official Dutch ROM was released on 2nd November in the afternoon CET. How can you tell so soon that you need to charge your phone every day? :confused:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] goonerjae:
hi there,

just thought i'd add to this thread,

music player tracks are interrupted when the windows 6.5 lock is activated, highly frustrating.

will look into this further when i have the time.

EDIT: this is not the lock as first thought, its when you go to the home screen while listening to music.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] rspillo:
tap and hold on the icon
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
Press and hold on the icon. The options seem pretty limited but after a couple of days, my menu is sorting itself out into a usuable list for me.

Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Nederename:
Battery Icon lost and clock is there!

Hi,

Can someone help me with this.

In my today screen i have the clock icon instead of the battery icon.

please help! It's very annoying ;-)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] rspillo:
Yes, and this is mine, i have create some folder:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] GerooTech:
go to settings tab -> select all settings -> then clock and alarms -> more tab -> then deselect the display the clock tab
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] rspillo:
mine work fine
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] GerooTech:
mine is not working at all as well
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Nederename:
GWassef,

Thanks man, i looked over it i think.

pffff

Greetz
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] rspillo:
This is the first full charge. For me, ITA WM6.5, work.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] GerooTech:
i have another problem with the sms delivery report when i try to send message using the sms tab within any contact of my contact list the sms delivery report is not selected, but if i am sending the sms from the message tab which opens the normal new message form it works fine
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] goonerjae:
I have found that on more than one occasion my alarm doesn't go off.

To recreate:

The night before set the phone alarm to a new time,

plug in the mains charger,

open an app and leave it running in the backround.

now the simple solution to this is check for any running apps before you go to sleep, but obviously that is not always what you are thinking when you are tired.

i'm yet to try this without charging overnight due to 6.5 batt drain issue's.

anyone else having alarm issue's?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
Yeap.

Alarm plays "alarm and notification" sounds both at the same time. Annoying.

There must be no sound for notifications to alarm play well.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Scoooby555:
Hmmm...looking at all this problems with freezing, charging, battery info and battery drainage...there must be so problems in 6.5 official ROM. I hope HTC is going to look in details about this problems.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] rspillo:
Absolutely I do not have these problems.

Personally I think it is an excellent upgrade
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Scoooby555:
Then you are a lucky guy. :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] elmalote:
Mine works too, like for a half a day then it suddenly changes to 0 and Not Applicable...:mad:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
Battery information

Mine too.

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] rspillo:
Thanks :)

And over me, all those who have the upgrade ITA version ... hope
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] prabhat:
Yes the Batery information does not work. It has some BUG :(.

If we charge FULL it seems to be working but only for couple of hours. Later if we see it is gone and all set to ZERO.

It is also strange that HTC has not release any patch/fix for this yet after so many days of the ROM release :confused:

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] kidkreole:
My Friend,

Very simple,

I installed the rom last thursday (29-nov) from the HTCPedia site,

Used it while driving to other side of the Netherlands to visit my girlfriends fam.. using my navigation while charging.. when I got there phone needed to charge at night... plugged it in... next day used my phone again (nothing seriously special.. just rss reader and rcvd one call.... at night needed charging again...

In wm 6.1 I didnt charge the phone this much while treating it no different..

best regards

Kiddo
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Andicot:
The battery information is not working also for me (ita version), now i try to do a full charge with the ac charger.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
How about the alarm bug...

The alarm ring mixed with the notifications sound.... noone?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] kidkreole:
I am experiencing this everyday.. :(:(

btw I hear no one complaining about the RSS utility which seem to fail regularly

also the Youtube app is not working , you guys noticed this also??

best regards

Kid
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] elmalote:
It was just to many problems with the WM6.5, I've gone back to WM6.1.

My alarm clock didn't go off this morning with 6.5, that was it :D

Plus battery time, for me at least seemed horrible along with really high RAM..
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] funkyr:
Is there an easier way than just to 'move to top' because it's so hard to rearrange everything into some sort of working order using this method...
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Max BrainBox:
I think I'll skip 6.5

After reading all the post related to upgrading to 6.5 and the resulting headaches, I conclude that 6.1 (with an another shell than TouchFLO aka Manilla) isn't such a bad think to use on a device that nearly runs my daily professional and personal life.

For me: this is a tool and not a toy.

But rest assured that I'll follow up all the posts and comments you folks leave behind!

Good luck with your 6.5 challenges.

Max
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] elmalote:
I use Tom's Extened Menu from HTCPedia and have the same Start menu as WM6.1 with Manila 2.0.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] elmalote:
For people with WM6.5 and high RAM. I've just found this tweak:

Change SharedMemory to 0 under

HKLM\Software\HTC\ResProxy

Found this on ppcgeeks.com, so credits go there. :)

This frees up about 20 MB of memory!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] goonerjae:
Yeah this also wont work for me!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] enfant_terrible1979:
just updated to 6.5(SEA rom)

can't seem to install .net compact framework:confused:

keeps getting error msg... anyone?:(
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
In mine, youtube is OK.

No problems installing .NET CF 3.5

Still having problems with battery data info, and alarm playing alarm and notifications sound at same time.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Svennebannan:
It was bugging me but I found the solution.

HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCAlbum\ok_minimize set to "0"
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] elmalote:
How? Does it automatically re-arrange icons after which is used most?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] adamrob69:
What does that proxy setting do?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
>How? Does it automatically re-arrange icons after which is used most?

Nope but after one has spent a bit of time moving those icons to the top that you use most, it sorts itself out. The upper half of my icon menu is now pretty much the icons I use most of the time.

Cheers, Rob
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Spyros12:
I do have this trick in windows 6.1 whith no problems but now whith 6.5 after set to 0 and reboot the value of registry change again!!!

Some one now the solution?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] lwk3980:
i also hv the same problems with the battery information...sigh. it always 0 and not applicable.

izzit any hotfix to fix tis problems currently?? if do.. pls help me!!

thanks alot!!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] bambony:
I have just read this thread with interest. I am having very few of the issues reported here apart from:

Alarm does not always sound

battery icon does not show but as I prefer the new notification functionality it's a win overall

I would certainly agree WinMo 6.5 is half baked. What are MS thinking? How can they not have a more finished OS by now? It's been years...

Tony
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
As far as I know, half the crew of Microsoft mobile was fired, for the delay arrival of 6.5 version.

There is a new team developing WM7. Maybe this is just a "bad period".
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] cougal96:
6.5 is rubbish! ive had nothing but problems since installing! dropping calls, battery drain, cannot hang up calls, sd card renaming to storage card 2 after soft reset resulting in links lost are to name but a few!

generally not a big enough improvement to go through all the hassle of "upgrading" from 6.1 - off to go try some of the cooked roms to see if the grass is greener on the other side ;)

can anyone recommend one - speedy but good looking UI??
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] GerooTech:
after i upgraded to the official 6.5 ROM from htc, i found it useless then i decided to unlock my device and installed the latest duttey's WM6.5 ROM it is very good, but the only issue with it is the new HTC Messaging app which has low performance.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Stano 74:
Bugs and so on WM 6.5 official ROM...

I have upgraded my ROM to 6.5. And I have this problems:

- no green LED when the battery is fully charged.

- again no possibility to snooze reminders with the choice of intervals.

- after soft reset i have got a error message about services.exe und shell32.exe.

And I do not know how to manage recording of calls.

Please help!

Thank You in advance!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] afadzil21:
I've pretty much similar problems with mostly everyone. Using the official SEA version WWE.

1. Battery drain is higher than 6.1 (need to charge daily now)

2. Random lockups when I launch programs

3. Friggin slow compared to 6.1. Brings me back to the days of WM5 on a 200MHz TI OMAP (Prophet)

4. My old Prophet with a cooked ROM is faster than D2 now.

5. Mail app hangs occasionally when retrieving from exchange server

6. Had to press the reset button at least twice in 2 weeks since I started using the new ROM.

7. GPS Fix is slower than 6.1.

HTC, please fix your ROM.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Skia22:
Hello to you all!

I upgraded my TD2 to windows mobile 6.5 (official update downloaded from HTC Europe) and today I had to perform a hard reset to my device. The procedure was completed, the device restarted and it remains stuck on "Touch Diamond 2 R 4.49.25.17 G 61.44tc.25.32u D 2.16.67041 "

What can I do?

edit

I had to install from the scratch the last ROM update. Nth worked, restart, soft reset. I wonder if anyone has successfully performed a hard reset after the update.

Next time I'll buy a Blackberry
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] munrobasher:
I think there was a lot of shuffling around the Zune group although I thought this was mainly the hardware side, i.e. Microsoft getting out of the MP3/mobile hardware market.

Cheers, Rob.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] jandb1980:
Hey all,

i've got a interesting problem with the new official German HTC WM6.5 ROM!

Yesterday, my device displayed in Manila 2.1 that i've got a new SMS! I was looking for the new SMS, but there was nothing...

I searched all my Messages, but nothing to find!

Then i connected my mobile to my PC and installed a programm to manage my Messages on the PC! It told me, that there is no new SMS!

Then i backed up my data and deleted all data on the mobile!

Then i took the back up and save it to the mobile again! And again the mobile tells me, there is a new message, but i cannot find it :(

Annyone can help me?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
That is a official bug in WM 6.5

I read somewhere Microsoft is working on that.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Meiz-:
These were enough for me to revert back to 6.1 :mad:
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Skia22:
Good evening!

I have an issue with the official Greek HTC update WM 6.5 ROM

I set up my gmail account with Active Sync and when I reply to an email, the recipient gets a blank email

I have performed a hard reset, which didn't solve the problem. When I set up this account as a pop3 in the sms/email menu, it works fine

I set up the same account in a HTC HD wm 6.1 via Active Sync and it works fine

Does anyone else face the same problem?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] jandb1980:
mmmh... so we have to live with that problem till there ara new official HTC ROMs where the problem is solved?

Very bad :( hope someone maybe find a workaround!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] -Sie-:
I might be going against the trend but I get on 6.5.

Only issue I hope someone can advise on is:

On the lock screen if I have recieved an email and use the 'email slider' to access it, it takes me to outlook inbox and not google email that I have setup. Can someone please advise where I can change this.

Thanks!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Skia22:
You just have to slide with your finger to the left or to the right to get to the right email account
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] -Sie-:
Thanks for your reply but I know that part, when I did that it took me to the Outlook Inbox and not my setup mail inbox.

Anyway I have now found the answer which is to edit this registry key to the following.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\LockScreen\Notifications\Email]

Value: Application Command Line"="\Windows\tmail.exe -service "NAMEOFEMAILACCOUNT"

NAMEOFEMAILACCOUNT = The display name you have setup for your email account.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] viz1977:
I have used both SEA and UK WWE 6.5 versions. So far the UK version has been better in terms of stability and consistency.

With regard to the issue related to battery backup, i installed radio 3.44.25.27 which works like a charm and the battery standby / backup is so much better off.:)

Hope this helps.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] jyth_82@yahoo.com:
Am using the official SEA wm6.5 for TD2...

Need to find out if there is a registry hack or tweak to enable the SMS or any windows to have the default keypad instead of the qwerty online keyboard?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mobilio:
I am using HK Traditional Chinese ROM.

May I know if there is any transparent clock for the manila front page?

I tried the one for WM6.1, it does NOT apply to WM6.5:eek:

I also want a screen saver (key lock) without any password, any idea if I can set this? I go to control panel and see there is a lock option, however, it force me to setup a password.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] patty42:
you can edit registry

HKCU\controlpanel\backlight\autodevicelockenable form 0 to 1
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mobilio:
party42 thanks!

lt's work
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] prdic:
try this one
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mobilio:
prdic, thanks a lot!

lt's work!

By the way, do you have one with the clock fonts in white color?

Thanks again!
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] eulem_sa:
prdic,

will this trans clock n weather1.cab work for 6.1?

I have TD2 6.1 and with all the reported problem, i dont want to upgrade anymore, all i want now is the weather tab in home tab with the clock.

will this work?
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] mobilio:
http://forum.5imobile.tw/showthread.php?t=322
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] larsft:
I reinstalled the 6.5 rom (Norway) after I had all the problems noticed in this forum. No everything works fine. Battery doesnt need recharge every day, the battery level indicator is back on "to day screen" and no .NET CF 3.5 works perfectly. My memory use is also normal again. I dont have any clue way every thing got f****** up after the first upgrade.

Lars
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] PMoto:
That's it. I did think about that too. Reflashing maybe a good thing.

Guess i'll try it too.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] prdic:
not yet, i haven't got time for it till now
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] prdic:
it works with new 2.1 manila only for wm6.1 try these

edit : for weather on home tab you have to flash some wm6.5 rom or maybe somebody will make cab for manila upgrade :)
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] BBS_HK:
Can't select different goup of cities for world time and weather

Upgraded to Winmobile 6.5 from HTC Hong Kong site last Saturday. I have noticed two bugs nobody has mentioned yet (at least I did not see so far).

1. I can't select different group of cities for world time and weather. If I edit world time cities then weather cities are also automatically edited and vice versa. That is, both world time and wearther cities have the same cities. Now I have three cities with the same time zone (My location, Hong Kong and Beijing) which is not necessay but I want both Hong Kong and Beijing in the weather cities. I would like to have some cities only in world time, not in weather cities and vice versa. But I am not allowed to have different cities in time and weather after the upgrade.

2. Missing down arrow when the menu is longer than screen can accomodate. I have installed Phonehelper 1.2 which allows me to "edit bofore call". But this function is near the buttom of contact menu, not visible without sliding the screen upwards. As the "more" arrow is missing I thought Phonehelper may not work with Winmobile 6.5. But it actually works as the menu can still be scrolled even though the arrow is missing.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] olygopoly:
BTW BBS_HK, do you have letter/block recognizer after u upgrade to official WM6.5 from HK site ? Mine dont have