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[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
I don't know what about you guys, but I think that our phone cannot "carry out" the load of the WM 6.5.

I have tried all the great ROM's up to now - indeed great improvement, but still not getting to the latest performance, stability as well as power consumer as the 6.1.

We need to admit that our Polaris does not meet the "Vista" of the mobile requirement - and frankly, it is not expected to be like that.

From my point of view, we need to focus over the latest WM6.1 but to update it always with the latest application available in the market.

No other choice but to wait for WM7, maybe it will be lighter and faster than the 6.5.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] DesertsStorm:
Objections! :)

There is some drop in performance and battery life on Polaris with 6.5 compared to 6.1 but it is barely noticeable in day-to-day use (I use pcarvalho's 6.5 ROM - no complains).

As to the most important part - focusing on 6.1... it is like telling people to get to Windows 98 from XP. WM 6.5 has some framework features under the hood that are just unavailable in 6.1 and I mean not just Titanium or honeycomb menu... 6.1 is a bye-bye past and it is just pointless to waste time on "making it better".

Yet another thing. I think most of people here would agree that they live by the principles of "what if..." and "why not?". I think people here are driven by the process of exploring and testing new stuff itself, rather than by the results it may bring :) Than the idea of using slower, battery-hungrier, buggier WM 6.5 would not sound stupid. :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] alanazar:
I've tried both and I can understand what you're saying here, but then again you need to remember a lot of these cooks include lots of programs that a lot of people can do without (ie Remote desktop, MSN Money, etc...). Even if they're not running, the more free program memory you have on the device, the easier it is for it 'breathe'.

I remember updating my first HTC from 5.0 to 6.0 actually made it run faster on its OMAP 200mhz CPU. My second HTC upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1 also felt a bit faster, but not as much as 5.0 to 6.0.

6.5 undoubtedly is slower for me, I was using udk's 6.1 and now pcar's 6.5 (just for the record, they are BOTH VERY TALENTED cooks), but I think it's slower because as you said the device is reaching its limits with what the new OS's are offering.

A nice idea is if some people can maintain on the main forums a standardized benchmark of WM OS's on different devices, based on their naked version to compare as much as possible. I think when I have time I’ll benchmark the different ROM's offered for the Polaris and share with everyone.

On either case, you have to love this community & cooks for always breathing in new life to all our devices, I really encourage people to donate whatever to the site or cooks you are downloading from, it does help encourage them... at least show them some gratitude!

As for my next device, I believe the HD2 is for the first time a MAJOR upgrade for HTC devices with its snapdragon 1Ghz processor and increased RAM...I’ll probably keep the Polaris for at least another 6 months so that I can buy the HD2 at a less-premium price. I just hope the whole camera issue is fixed...they've always had problems with that - there's no point in having a 3MP camera if it has a really slow fps rate and can't get a proper focus on pics!

Well, that was my ramble! :)

Best regards,

Alan
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] alanazar:
I agree on this - I was writing my post just as you posted yours. I'm using pcar's and no objections for me, although I believe a lite\naked version could help with the response rate of the device (it's not slow at all, but udk's was just REALLY fast).

I've already asked pcar for a LITE\NAKED version, but poor guy is already giving so much of his time developing the new ROMs as well as the support...i've never seen a cook so active and dedicated...probably the best quality in a cook as you have the confidance that he will work & solve all issues & improvements. But hopefully he will manage to offer a stripped-down version.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Wazowski68:
It's right! WM6.5 on Polaris is not for a daily usage. I'm so satisfied with 6.1-3lit3VIII.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] retsam88:
Well, i do believe wm 6.5 is very good with all new features, but it's just too much for polaris to handle. The best option would be to have all improvements from 6.5 core(HSUPA f.e.) minus all that flashy menus and such.

Also, i cannot stand the way it wants me to use it(mainly fingers), I like my stylus, and i don't want to smudge it with my fingers. Why there isn't a option to let me choose how do i want to control it?

tl;dr make a naked version of 6.5
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
overrule :-))

I agree with the concept of what you have written, however if we will be case specific, the 6.5 version is to "heavy" for our "not young" Polaris. up to WM6.1 (XP) the system could be optimize for very good performance, but since WM6.5 (Vista), the Mobile is consuming 30-40% power (why?) and the response display can be really feel on daily use.

I don't think that this is compare to win98 - it is relative to XP that still continue to be use today, although the Win7 is out....

Mainly on the daily bases you don’t care which OS you have, as long as it runs fast and stable :-)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
100% correct
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ZED_pt:
Im using PCarvalho latest build 23053 and i have almost no complains...its fast and battery is normal as in 6.1.all i do is run cleanram twice a day.

Sometimes it does freeze and i have to soft reset but not often enough to piss me off,and theres a problem with scrolling big lists in file explorer.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] kikoj:
I agree with Yinnon-I also tried 6.5 (Costas early version wich was great),but I saw that the performance in 6.1 is better and got back to M-Amine 6.1-till I buys my new device.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] DesertsStorm:
Oh, I do!!! :) I so MUCH do!! :) Remember those Win 98 times when you would loose all your work and were forced to reboot just because any inserted corrupt floppy disk or media player that stopped responding would DEFINITELY result in BSOD??? :) And it didn't matter for me back then that my PC would run like 50% slower with Win2000 because I knew stability and reliability is sometimes more important than speed.

As to the features of WM6.5 I'll repeat that in day-to-day use (like 3 weeks since I've installed pcarvalho's latest ROM) I don't see any major performance problems on my Polaris whatsoever. Battery life is shorter, that's it. Media or GPS software, M2D v.2.0, Camera, 2G calls, you name it - everything runs good and stable. Not rocket-fast, like on some naked 6.1 ROMs but I just don't care, cause 6.1 is a thing of past for me. :)

P.S. Wanna see some real problems with performance? Try installing 3D drivers and Touch Flo 3D :D :D :D
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Wazowski68:
This is not a performance problem? To use "clean ram" twice a day is normal?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] retsam88:
I'm just afraid to think using larger cache in Opera 9.7 in wm6.5...
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] DesertsStorm:
But of course its wrong to run clean ram twice a day! :D Oh my god! ... manually! Twice a day!!! I would just write a script to do that for me! :D :D :D

No, seriously, people thats for everyone personally to decide what to use and what ROM to cook (maybe those cooks are bored with 6.1 and had enough of it already - didn't you think about that? :) ) . But don't forget that if there is a problem, it doesn't mean the whole thing is bad and should be abandoned. Maybe you will find it more interesting to try to solve the problem. :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] cruiserrr:
I do not know... the polaris has four major drawbacks from my point of view: the camera should be better, it has no accelerometer, has no TV/music out mode and the technology of the screen is "primitive". For the rest I think the polaris was so well equiped that even now can resist hardware comparison with newer machines. After two years my polaris was stolen and I had to buy a new htc and after comparing I ended with another Polaris.

In my opinion, the big issue is about how many people are there developing software, drivers, roms, etc. People around has been able to install wm6.1, 6.5, android, unix, 3d drivers... it is only a matter of software and unfortunately, most of polaris users in xda have moved to newer devices.

Regarding your question I love naked versions: if you like pcarvalho try 21820 LT, I did not upgrade anymore after that version. You can also try mine Lite rom too, I think it is fast ... but it is just born I am a new to cooking. If you go for 6.1 naked I recommend swtos roms better than any other ones, even the one you mention (at least at the time I had it installed).

I personally would never go back to 6.1 and not even in another life to windows 6.0. I only feel bad about not discovering/daring custom roms before. For me 6.5 battery life is only noticeable when using gps outdoor in the mountain: 4 hours and my phone is dry, which is something you do not want to happen in the mountain, so I have learned to use the GPS only for finding my way when I have problems rather than recording all the way. WM 6.5 more than anything offers me thumb.friendly menus and scrolling. Polaris continues to offer me a good all-in-one choice. If you can live without high demanding UI (lots of things in memory and lots of scrolling and redrawing) I think 6.5 is still a bearable OS for our old Polaris. The difficult point becomes then how to strip the core wm6.5 from the fancy UI around it.

Let's wait for a com5 kitchen of for a naked pcarvalhos rom !!!
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] alanazar:
I totally agree with you...not just with the Polaris but with most of the HTC devices, this is why HD2 is (FINALLY!) a leap in hardware advancements. Ofcourse it still lacks the TV-Out & not sure about the camera but hopefully the camera will be resolved with the LED lighting as it's the light-filter that slows the fps down. I just hope the next-gen devices see the same leaps in technology & power as opposed to small improvements here & there!

Exactly, my phone is reminding me of the days of the old pentium 1-2 & upgrading from Windows 95 to 98 to 2000, etc :) ...as long as the hardware can keep up performance-wise with the new software. We have an amazing community of cooks, testers, and users to keep the best coming, and while a lot of the earlier cooks left, thankfully we're still seeing some good talent coming on to the scene. And hopefully we'll be seeing more naked versions as well!

Eventually I think the polaris vs the new software generations will naturally push us to the newer\faster models with more hardware features to make the most out of... and this is before being dumped again by those cooks with more money hehe :D

I'm with you 100%. btw, regarding the battery & GPS, if you're running the GPS for 4 hours it's going to drain your battery regardless of the OS you're using. In that case for the mountains, consider getting a solar or AA battery-powered charger (should be just a few $).

Regarding 'com5', i've always wanted to ask what is com2, com3 etc... i searched the forums but it was hard to find the right post with those keywords...can someone please explain? Thanks!
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] phnikola:
Just my 2 cents. I came to Polaris after 3 unhappy days spent with Touch Pro (will not comment it at all) Only thing I dislike with Polaris is a yellowish color temperature of the screen. And thats it.

Wm6.5 is definitely not heavy for Polaris - unless you understand wm6.5 is all about Titanium and Honeycomb start menu. The problem is that cookers mostly post ROMs overloaded with various things that YOU might never need (and cannot edit). Try one of 6.5 kithens (Gullum's is excellent) and clear everything you don't need from it to see how fast wm6.5 can be. My Polaris has some 62 MB free with S2U2, Today Agenda, HTC Home (yep, usability over looks) and pTravel alarm running on homescreen (all cooked into ROM). It is faster compared to 3lite VI naked ROM I flashed to my brother's Polaris. (3lite VI ROM is mentioned only as example, and is one of the best and fastest 6.1 ROMs IMPO).

From my experience wm6.5 biggest advantage is in tweaked interface compared to 6.1 (for example finger friendly tree-dialogue menus, taskbar buttons on the bottom of the screen, finger friendly contacts and calendar apps etc.), with some other minor glitches of 6.1 resolved. Add to that fact that with recent builds you have visible changes between them and you can choose one according to your preferences - gives you something very promising and inevitable.
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] zayg1:
I just changed the numbers, I think it looks pretty cool. It is a .zip file containing all the numbers.png, original.apk (just in case), & the custom .apk. I currently am not rooted so I cannot take any screenshots. I added the images so that if you wanted to use them in a different ROM you can replace the original images with my images.

*Made for JesterBlur v1.1.5*

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=567122

Download:

http://www.mediafire.com/?hdyz2gzwwim
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] zayg1:
Reserved just in case...
[G1 Themes and Wallpapers] zayg1:
I have seen it has been downloaded. Is anyone using it???
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] interestingfellow:
OK, so, I got an sx66 off ebay for $19.50 (sorry to the gentleman I outbid).

Problem is, the speaker doesn't work quite right. I had a wallaby and seem to remember sounds being much louder than they are this sx66.

When I tried a test call to my wife, she could hear me, but I couldn't hear her, and when I did, it seemed like she was whispering and (it seemed like) my volume was down almost all the way (both volumes were turned all the way up).

I didn't try the headset with a call, but did try it with general use clicks and menues, and the headset sounded alright.

Bad speaker or bad chip?

TIA!

EDIT: Just tried the headset while on the phone with the wife; it sounded ok. I also plugged in the headset about 30x, just to make sure the little headset sense switch was not malfunctioning. It didn't effect anything.

HELP, please.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] interestingfellow:
[SOLVED]

Got impatient and threw in a Razr speaker.

Problem solved for now, but I want a real speaker, or upgraded speaker. I already posted in market place, but if your reading this, do you know where to get one, or which speakers will fit, that's an upgrade?

TIA

In the photo's you can see an sx56 and sx66 speaker, and the earphone and speaker phone from a Razr. Also a closeup of the sx56 and 66 speakers (it would have helped me earlier to have found that)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] cerjam:
http://cgi.ebay.com/i-mate-PDA2K-O2...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c511dbd7c

voila there ya go. id still say get a asis one but if you just wnat hte speaker thereyago.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] interestingfellow:
yeah... thanks dude, I just got that one last night.

Upgrades here I come.
[Hero CDMA General] frazmanw:
I love my new Sprint Hero, but I have one problem. 90% of the time I have my Plantronics 975 bluetooth in my ear.

Problem is the phone rings it does not pass through to bluetooth. I am a DirecTv installer and up and down ladders, in crawlspaces etc. There are apps in marketplace that change your ringer to read the Caller ID to you. However because this phone only makes my bluetooth beep and not ring with the ringer, I get the callers name read out loud through speaker, not bluetooth. That does not work when with a customer.

Any help???
[General Questions and Answers] cheetahbadri:
actually iam havin windows 6.5 .Now in that my ram memory always goes to 76 - 80 and only 10mb left as free memory .................. can any body tell how to free more space???? also wen i was using windows 6.0 i was having nearly 25 mb as free memory(56% ram usage)............ can any one tell me????????????...................
[Touch CDMA Accessories] dashauns:
Does any have an extra stlyus for the vogue. I desperately need one but they sell for like 12 dollars online and ithink thats alot considering others sell for $3 with shipping.
[Touch CDMA Accessories] jadesse:
You may be right about the price. However if you need one that desperately then just pony up the money & buy the cheapest one.

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=208885418&listingid=28022873

http://www.amazon.com/Touch-P3450-Smartphone-Stylus-Ballpoint/dp/B00128802O
[Touch CDMA Accessories] dashauns:
Thanks for the links, I mainly use the stylus for soft resets in case of a lockup which is why I didnt want to pay over 12 bucks for 1. Battery pulls get annoying, the few times I have to do them.
[Touch CDMA Accessories] jamezelle:
if thats all you use it for maybe find something you could put on your keys or sumthing to poke the hole:o
[Touch CDMA Accessories] JeeZues:
I've bought and used this:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22798

They also sell this one too for a bit more, looks the same though:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.18815
[Touch CDMA Accessories] dashauns:
Thanks, i totally forgot to check DX. And thanks jamezelle but Its more convenient for me to just have the stylus which is hidden until i need it. :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silfer:
Hi i just rooted my phone and installed MCR. Do you think its worth it to do A2SD on my hero? Will it make the apps run faster? Right now i still have 41MB so thats still a little bit to spare. Should i do it?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Personally I wouldn't bother if I were you, unless you are absolutely out of space. It certainly won't make your phone any faster anyway.

Regards,

Dave
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silfer:
ohh ok, i guess i'll do it when i run out of space then. I also only have a class 2 sd card so it isnt that fast.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badantii:
It wont make it faster but, if you run more Applications will it ever get slow if you make a big swap?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] dotcompt:
Language pack for Manila 2.1 Sense

Before installation please read the FAQ bellow first!!!

AVAILABLE LANGUAGE PACKS LINKS SO FAR :

Arabic.Saudi (ar-sa)

Spanish.Modern (es-es) - AVAILABLE

Catalan (ca-es)

Chinese.PRC (zh-cn)

Chinese.Taiwan (zh-tw)

Czech (cs-cz)

Danish (da-dk)

Dutch.Standard (nl-nl)

Finnish (fi-fl)

French.Standard (fr-fr) - AVAILABLE

German.Standard (de-de)

Greek (el-gr)

Hungarian (hu-hu)

Italian.Standard (it-it) - AVAILABLE

Japanese (ja-jp)

Korean (ko-kr)

Norwegian.Bokmal (nb-no)

Polish (pl-pl)

Portuguese.Brazilian (pt-br)

Portuguese.Standard (pt-pt) - AVAILABLE

Romanian (ro-ro)

Russian (ru-ru)

Slovak (sk-sk)

Swedish (sv-se)

Turkish (tr-tr)

English (en-gb)

Stay tuned for the remaining Langs
​

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Q: How to install my native Language?

A: Just download the cab above for your native Language, copy it to your TP2, install it on device and reset, after that you can delete the Cab.

Q. Can I uninstall the Language Pack?

A: Yes, goto system settings and remove it, reset device and this makes it reverse to WWE.

Q: Bad or missing Translation?

A: Sorry, I pick the Manila Lang files somewhere in this forum and I am not sure that all Langs are 100% well translated, and as you can imagine I dont speak that many Languages.

Q: Will this work on Manila 2.0 or 2.5?

A: I have no idea, but I think the answer is NO.

Q: I Found the full language pack for all languages, why not install everything?

A: The full pack of manila files can be installed with no problem, but will create on your device windows folder more or less 500 files (7 Mb), and this will make your device slow. If you install your native single Cab this will copy only 36 files (300K)

Q: What about WM 6.5, is it translated too?

A: NO, this is only for Manila Sense 2.1, WM 6.5 stays in WWE.

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] dotcompt:
Language pack for Manila 2.1 Sense

Before installation please read the FAQ bellow first!!!

AVAILABLE LANGUAGE PACKS LINKS SO FAR :

Arabic.Saudi (ar-sa)

Spanish.Modern (es-es) - AVAILABLE

Catalan (ca-es)

Chinese.PRC (zh-cn)

Chinese.Taiwan (zh-tw)

Czech (cs-cz)

Danish (da-dk)

Dutch.Standard (nl-nl)

Finnish (fi-fl)

French.Standard (fr-fr) - AVAILABLE

German.Standard (de-de)

Greek (el-gr)

Hungarian (hu-hu)

Italian.Standard (it-it) - AVAILABLE

Japanese (ja-jp)

Korean (ko-kr)

Norwegian.Bokmal (nb-no)

Polish (pl-pl)

Portuguese.Brazilian (pt-br)

Portuguese.Standard (pt-pt) - AVAILABLE

Romanian (ro-ro)

Russian (ru-ru)

Slovak (sk-sk)

Swedish (sv-se)

Turkish (tr-tr)

English (en-gb)

Stay tuned for the remaining Langs
​

==================================================

Q: How to install my native Language?

A: Just download the cab above for your native Language, copy it to your TP2, install it on device and reset, after that you can delete the Cab.

Q. Can I uninstall the Language Pack?

A: Yes, goto system settings and remove it, reset device and this makes it reverse to WWE.

Q: Bad or missing Translation?

A: Sorry, I pick the Manila Lang files somewhere in this forum and I am not sure that all Langs are 100% well translated, and as you can imagine I dont speak that many Languages.

Q: Will this work on Manila 2.0 or 2.5?

A: I have no idea, but I think the answer is NO.

Q: I Found the full language pack for all languages, why not install everything?

A: The full pack of manila files can be installed with no problem, but will create on your device windows folder more or less 500 files (7 Mb), and this will make your device slow. If you install your native single Cab this will copy only 36 files (300K)

Q: What about WM 6.5, is it translated too?

A: NO, this is only for Manila Sense 2.1, WM 6.5 stays in WWE.

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jerpelea:
manila Manila_2_1_19193517_2 with all languages separated

just copy needed language and cook

en-us is default and is not recomanded to be removed

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5ocm7i
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] grom.cris:
Hi,

I've got a htc touch pro 2 sprint with the last htc rom wm6.5 pro, and i'ts working in french just as i want.

Thank you very much !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ytsejam_:
is there a program or a cab that would allow us to assign the HTC Manila 3d Start menu to any hardware button?

i tried using AEButton plus but it only launches the default old windows mobile 6.1 drop down start menu..

i've tried everything from using manila.exe --switchtopage to searching the entire registry for clues but i can't find a path or attribute command that can be used in a LNK file to create a shortcut path to the HTC/Manila start menu..

i tried searching the threads too and got zilch for 2 days now..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vicie:
maybe a stupid question, but were did you find htc 3D startmenu
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ytsejam_:
pardon me. i haven't updated my profile for awhile now

i have a SE xperia with TF3d 2.1.. i am referrinng to the manilastart menu..

how to toggle (bring it up to screen and hide) it using hardware buttons..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ytsejam_:
the only solution i can find is to make a mortscript that would send a mouseclick at coordinates 1,1 to enable a start menu tap.. but that doenst work when you are on full screen (i.e. opera, powerpoint mobile, etc.)..

anyone has better ideas?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amarullz:
Try Send WM_LBUTTONDOWN & WM_LBUTTONUP Message into HHTaskBar Window on coordinates around x=10,y=10 :D

is that possible with mortscript??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ytsejam_:
thanks dude for the idea.. tried sending one to HHTaskBar.. too bad, nothing happens..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sudist:
You can bring the todayscreen in front I think

Show ("Desktop")

There is also an other command :

SendSpecial ("win")