yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
Eugenia ROM has evolved.

I've ported almost all tweaks (that I've used to include in old Diamond Eugenia ROMs) that are giving a blazing fast device. I'm working hard to give to you all the best Windows Mobile experience.

I'm in doubt on releasing another beta while developing the RC or wait until I finish the RC version.

All that I can say for now, is that the new Eugenia ROM is way faster than any other Eugenia published in the past.

That's another story! The gold days of the HTC HD2 are about to start!

And... another thing to say:

The 1GHz hack seems to be working very fine! Now the device can surely go to/resume from/to sleep!

Anyway, it's difficult to go to 1GHz because there isn't a really CPU-intensive application for PDAs, but you'll see improvements in smoothness of all the apps. The device will go @ 1GHz only for a few moments because after processing all the needed things, it hasn't got any reason to remain on 1GHz consuming battery, but you will be able to see that when WindowsMobile boots, the CPU will be @1GHz and will boot faster than ever (HTC Sense is working very fast!).

Stay tuned for the incoming updates!

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Lizzo:
that's great news!, can't wait!!:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] joplayer:
Can't wait to test it to!

Will you change the clocks in the next release?

And is that you who have made the 1Ghz patch.

In all the cases you are the first to implement it in a ROM so congratulations!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] chris5932:
Thanks for the little review kholk!

Any new things about USB-host feature?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ulwi:
+1 super questions... ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
As already said in the past (not so much "past"...) the 1GHz hack will be released with the Release Candidate version of EugeniaROM.

All that I can say is that it's ready for being deployed!

The USBHost thing instead is a real pain: it's a mess with GPIO addresses. I have to port the Toshiba TG01's USBHost drivers to the HTC HD2 and unfortunately they've got a completely different GPIO.

Anyway, the base USBHost support is integrated in the Beta4 and Beta3 releases, but I don't know if it's working or not...I need someone to test it with somewhat like USB (low power) pendrives or keyboard/mouse, but you have to plug your USB device in with a USBHost cable and before (and after, if it isn't working) powering on the device.

I've posted the download link for Eugenia ROM Beta 4, the last beta release.

The next version will be the RC, available in WWE and ITA (and maybe some other localizations, too!)

Well, I think that I've explained all!

Thank you for staying tuned on the Eugenia ROM development status!

...and for using it too!

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] vladimir2989:
Lite Essentials rom download link anywhere ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Sallcho:
UPDATE: Checked the guide, you can use any CustomRUU.exe from other HD2 ROMs

The ROM file is only with the .nbh file, can I use other HD2 ROMs CustomRUU.exe? Or should I flash through SD card?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
You can use both!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ulwi:
beta3 and beta 4 usb host is not working. i tried dicota gamepad.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] beerupop:
can't wait for the RC !^^

today or not ?:)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] glenner05:
link for beta4 on first page is down? eager to try it :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
Sorry for that, I have to talk to zzattack for this thing.

I'll upload the ROM to MegaUpload when I'll be at home, so you'll be able to download it without problems.

P.S.: RC Version is coming ;)

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] glenner05:
ok thanks! i'll check back later. curious for your RC release!

link is back online!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] ulwi:
Does it work Dicota mini usb gamepad in RC Version ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bsnguy:
Is there any proof that the HD2 has the necessary hardware to support USB host? I know the chipset has support, but does the phone have a power supply and transceiver support for it? My experience shows it does not. The fact that any device one plugs into a stock HD2 makes the phone think it's a handset indicates, to me, that the fifth pin (used to indicate a USB device is attached) is being used for another purpose (to tell the phone the car kit is attached and, I presume, to reuse the USB pins for it as opposed to being a USB host-based hands-free kit). Anyone know what the hands-free kit really does?

I'm excited if the USB host can be made to work, but it requires more than just drivers and software hacks; it needs hardware support all the way out the connector.

I've looked, again, at my disassembled HD2 (yes, I sacrificed one to the cell phone gods) and I see absolutely no power supply for the USB port. Not that this is definitive, but that means that anyone testing with these new ROMS should be sure to use a powered USB hub or a powered USB device to test. If you don't the device will not receive power and won't do anything. Once we know if the devices work, then plug them in, directly, and see if they are powered up. If so, we're golden.

Requiring external power is a pain, but even with that, it would be great to know this port can be made to work.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Lizzo:
wow!, thanks 4 ur sacrifice it's well appreciated:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
Please don't try first with non standard devices.

Try with an external powered USB HDD or a mouse/keyboard, attaching external power to the USB client device!

Thank you.

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Dracoster:
I want to try your ROM, but I don't get how to actually install it. Can you tell me how?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
Place the .nbh file into the same folder of a CustomRUU, or flash it directly from your SDCard placing it into the root and naming it LEOIMG.nbh.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bshakil:
Has anyone tried this software... It seems like complete driver for USB Devices for windows mobile... if hardware has USB HOST support...

http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=usbinput

USBInput is an advanced HID Driver for the Windows Mobile platform. Using it, you can easily connect USB keyboards or mouses to your Pocket PC's USB Host connector, and start using your favorite input device.

Plug-in a simple optical USB Mouse and get a real cursor on the screen of your mobile device. Or connect an USB Keyboard and type emails faster, browse the internet easier, or play games more comfortable. USBInput brings more fun and more productivity!

This will finally prove if hd2 has usb host capability.... If you guys have USB converter cable ... please give this app a try
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bsnguy:
The USBinput software will be useless. It's nothing magical; it simply adds additional class drivers to systems that already have USB host support. Many people have thought otherwise with every device under the sun and they all fail to work. Believe me. I own USBinput and it's worthless unless the device has USB host from the factory (like the Palm Treo 800w and Toshiba G900 and TG01 do).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] dre4mer:
dying for RC here :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
The Pre-RC version (with all the RC drivers and optimizations, including 1GHz tweak) will be available tomorrow/tonight.

Changelog:

*- Reworked and higher resolution and quality icons! (Album, AudioBooster, Calculator, Camera, Opera, Teeter, YouTube.)

*- 1GHz Hack

*- Eugenia customizations added to WMDC data informations

*- Speedup in WMDC/Activesync RNDIS transfers

*- 1.66 Base (Drivers/XIP)

*- Some other updated packages.

Issues:

The ROM won't work at its full stability at first boot. You have to use it and softreset after 5 minutes or so (databse fillup time).

Starting from the second boot the device will be fast as hell and stable.

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] erikvario:
isn't the 1ghz tweak dangerous for over heating??

erik
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] womo:
New Rom dont work for me, its not possible to install new programs like sashimi, or reso explorer aso.. (the file ... cannot be opened, either it is not signed...)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Mickeb83:
Lite Essentials

Is there any screenshots of the Lite Essentials version?

I havnt bought a HD2 i need to confirm first that the WinMo 6.5.3 (with the startbutton in the bottom) exist. And totally clean from HTC interfaces.

So the question is:

Is Lite Essentials what im looking for?

A totaly clean verision of Winmo 6.5.3 (and is it fast? :p)

If that´s the case ther will be a HD2 orderd and some money donated :D

____________________________________

Hafe agoo dhay!

SE X1 Jerpelea:s X2 Rom.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Lizzo:
ooh sweet:D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] frko:
Any chance some skinning will be applied to those fugly default M$ menu buttons?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bsnguy:
I've flashed ROMs, before, but on my HD2 when I run customRUU and try to flash, it just hangs at the 0% screen and then, eventually, tries to do a recovery (and I can simply reboot the phone and the original stuff is still there). I also tried to use the SD card and it immediately goes in to "Loading..." with no other screens or information (and after waiting 20 minutes, I removed the battery and all was still in the original state).

Any thoughts as to why?

EDIT: I see why, now. The dodo head who sold me this phone has a cooked ROM on it, already. I update HSPL and then could install this... now to test it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bsnguy:
OK, I've done this, now, with beta 4. (I know RC is coming but I'm impatient!)

The USB host does not work. When a USB host cable is plugged in, the HD2 still goes straight into the "auto adapter" mode and brings up NaviPanel. I suspect HTC is using the fifth wire that's supposed to put you into host mode as a trigger for this and it's unusable as a host-switch mode pin like it's supposed to be.

So, did you add a software mode switch to turn on USB host mode or were you relying on the auto-switch? (And is the USB host mode supposed to be enabled in beta 4?)

I'm very interested in usb host mode for various reasons and have a lot of experience with it on other devices (like the Palm Treo 800w, Toshiba G900 and TG01). I'm happy to do whatever I can to help make this work although I fear HTC has made it (close to?) impossible like they do with all of their other devices.

EDIT: Yes, I can turn off the auto-entry into the car mode, but that still doesn't allow the host mode to work (and I'm simply trying to get a USB drive to work... there is no activity on the drive's light - which there would be if it was being enumerated) and it's not seen in File Explorer. And, yes, I'm using a powered USB hub which is known-good.

I see that there is nothing in the registry HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\UsbOtg which I would expect so maybe you have removed the drivers from Beta 4?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
USBOTG is a part of USBHost, it allows to switch from USB Client mode to USB Host mode.

However, if it brings up the NaviPanel interface, then I think that HTC has made some software modifications to the USB interface, but this is a fundamental information: if connecting the USBOTG pin to USBHost it brings up NaviPanel, then it's SURE than it is soldered to the mainboard, then it's technically possible to have USB Host functionalities (losing NaviPanel) on the HTC HD2.

Good report, thank you!

Anyway, the Lite Essentials build is a clean WM ROM, lightweight and fast, without any HTC software in it!

It'll be released with the Pre-RC release OR with the RC release (I don't know if it's best in Pre-RC or in RC for now, but I'm examinating the situation.

The RC release will be even in two language version: WWE and ITA!

Pre-RC is almost here!

ETA: 5-6 hours. (however, if I decide to release even Pre-RC LiteEssentials, the ETA for it is 7-8 hrs)

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] capitanosalina:
Hello Keep us informed also on the site:)

Ciao tienici informati anche sull'altro sito :) Sei un grande
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] johnk1973:
For all the people with the SMS problem (sms stuck in outbox) that's still not been solved by HTC can you do a version without HTC messaging..

cheers John
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
Lite Essentials Pre-RC build approved.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] iky10:
is the "CPU scales to a maximum of 1GHz" available as a cab file, and when the full version of pre-rc version be available
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bsnguy:
We might be talking about different things, here. The registry key for UsbOtg has information related to the usb host driver on my other MSM-based devices. I've attached the registry tree from my TG01 for reference (same Qualcomm chipset). There may be other ways to do this, but that part seems like it points to the required USB drivers for host mode. I've also included the Drivers\USB hive as it has some differences, too; The LoadClients section is for the host devices. You can ignore the 6433_61441 tree under it as that's my own, custom, device and you will not see that.

Maybe there is some information in there that helps to move this part of the project along.

I take the opposite view of the navpanel functionality than you. Simply plugging in the USB host cable (with no device attached) brings up the Navpanel. This indicates to me that they are simply using that fifth pin shorted to ground as a GPIO signal (for example) that forces this program to run. If they were using USB host for it, I would not expect it to work unless a real device enumerated on the USB. Since there is no device there, I'm suspect. I hope you're right, however!

Thanks for the efforts thus far.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
I'll repeat that only one more time:

1GHz Hack IS A XIP DRIVER that CAN'T be installed with a CAB.

Anyway, bsnguy, maybe you're right, they're using the PIN5 calling GPIO, but I said that it's technically possible to have USB Host things because, at least, we're sure that the PIN5 is soldered on the mainboard! ^^

However, it's useless to say that I'll make what I can do in my possibilities :P

Ouh and...

Lite Essentials build is UP!

The FULL version will be up in an hour or so.

Anyway, take a look on this (included only in Full version):

Enjoy your new ROM!

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] joplayer:
Thanks a lot!!

I will flash the full version when available!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] lpsi2000:
What is the internal storage after the flashing on the full version?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Ston:
Some Lite essentials observations:

1) Is it supposed to have a big "BETA Expires: 05/01/2010" on the home screen?

2) Long hold on the power button, then touching "Power Off" doesn't power off the phone.

Keep up the good work and cooking

Regards
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] starbase64:
Hi,

how can I check if it works?

with friendly greet

starbase64
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
Do some bench marks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] starbase64:
SPB Benchmark? Or??

with friendly greet

starbase64
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
Whatever you like....
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] joplayer:
And if you have time it would be great to publish the benchmark on the forum to see the enhancements
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
Yup,

Could you alsot ell us how you did the xip update, what files etc?

For other chefs.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
+1 for that. I'm curious as to temp and any speed improvements. Are they worth it?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] xmoo:
Think they will be worth it in the long run, but how will the battery react ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bsnguy:
I think it should be possible to force the USB host mode via software. Usually (from older chips I've seen the technical documents for) there is a register that controls this and setting an appropriate bit does it; the grounding of pin 5 is *another* way that bit gets set (via hardware) but it's not strictly required.

Anything I can do to help to get this thing working I'll do. I have Palm Treo 800w, Toshiba G900 and TG01 phones that all have working USB host (and the later is the same - or very similar - chip set as the HD2) and can try to get whatever information is needed.

Thanks for all your efforts; I donated earlier today to show my appreciation even if the host mode never works. That's learning something , too!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] mpis:
This isn't much good work. Great deal of bugs. Come back to Miri.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bsnguy:
That's not very sporting of you :confused:

If you work to get the chip's USB host mode working, I'll support you, too. I'm singly focused on that issue and this project is the first I've seen even talking about it. I'd love for all you smart cookers to get it working. I don't have the time or energy to do all the necessary work to do the cooking, myself, but I'd be glad to help those who do to understand what is needed for USB host support (that HTC keeps disabling/not implementing on their capable devices).

Oh yea, and having the ability to actually run the CPU at 1 GHz is also a requirement of mine, so I guess I'm not quite a single-issue voter, but USB host is more important right now.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] KB24@CL:
I dunno to be honest what pre-RC is.

after so many beta's this should have been the RC...as RC is a "pre" as well since its a release candidate..

so this is the 5th beta already? I'm following this thread carefully because of your "innovative" development but for whatever reason its not coming to a result yet?!

at least if we knew what the problem is...thanks for the effort anyway tho
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] KEYVAN-GSM:
thank u khlok for your effort

but when i want to decompress rom files i have erors

please upload filez in one file not two
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] legend63:
i've used hjsplit and winrar , no problem. :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] turborider:
hope he tell the chefs will be nice for them to know how he done it :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
Would be nice :) When I don't share something I get crucified over it.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] turborider:
i hate to be ignored mate and if they dont do share there is no point for them to be here ;)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
Ignored? Hey, I've got a real life too.

Pre-RC is an "internal" release, it isn't a beta version because it introduces other enhancements that needs to be seen and to be examinated for a "I don't like them" or "hell, I like them all!" etc.

As for sharing the 1GHz Hack, it'll be shared soon and apart from my files, I can say that it affects the msm_clk.dll XIP driver. It doesn't affect SO much the battery: 1GHz is used very very rarely because there isn't an applications that needs the CPU to be at 1GHz for more than a half of a second or less. All the apps are using NAND for writing after processing and we haven't got an HD that is writing at 25MB/s, so after processing the things that has to be writed to RAM/NAND, the CPU goes down to other frequency policies... but if someone writes a synthetic benchmark that can use the CPU with less RAM writes, you'll see a really LARGE improvement in processing speed!

I'm not saying that you won't see improvements with 1GHz Hack, but only that there isn't any app that really needs 1GHz for be usable. You will see a more responsive device and less stuttering in everyday tasks.

Thanks to @Ston for reporting the PowerOff bug in Lite Essentials build: surely I forgot to enable an essential package (and this is why it is named PreRC and not RC :P ) and I'll fix it soon ^^

As for the "BETA" watermark, yes I have to remove it, but it's expected to be here, don't worry... but don't trust the "Expires on......" because shell32 is patched and there isn't any timebomb!

EDIT: Thank you bsnguy for the donation, you're added to the donators list in first post.

Really, thanks ^^

The Full Pre-RC version is ready, uploaded, and with posted links in first post!

Enjoy!

The Eugenia Project Developer

-kholk.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] turborider:
nice one mate well done :D will add donation as soon i get paid by the end of the week :D :D
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sonydesouza:
Any feedback ?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] kholk:
This is what the start menu in RC version will look like (I'm developing a WM theme for EugeniaROM!)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] sonydesouza:
Thanks for picture...

I have to be honest...i'm very sceptical about 1 ghz driver...

Can you explain me a lil ?

Thanks...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bbezja1:
hi i flashed you FULL ROM today and something i noticed.. in start menu -> Tools folder -> digital compas doesnt start (unsigned or missing).

also i find the gallery lame and useles. picture switching is slower than on animated manilla. also deleting pictures is "hard", you have to go out of picture viewing and long-press it to get to delete button.

im fresh into HD2 ROMs but i find your ROMto be worse than stock ROM. there is no clearly visible change or gain

BUT

there is a big chance that im missing something important here.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Johnston411:
Hi kholk,

just loaded the full rom and will give it a good workout.

only just flashed it but initial response is that it's very responsive.

compass works fine for me.

there are a couple of dead shortcuts in the manila app launcher and an empty qualcomm programs folder but they're easy to delete.

also the when you return to the home tab when the clock flips the graphic gets mangled for a second. still not a deal breaker

time to install a few apps and see how the tweak handles it :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] Johnston411:
well a soft reset later and i can no longer install any .cabs

"not a valid ppc application"

and now on subsequent soft resets i get "wceload.exe is not a valid pocket pc application" when it boots.

i'll hard reset and see if that helps

edit: this has the makings of a really nice rom but can't install any cabs so unusable for me. have reflashed and hard reset a few times now and same problems. on the last hard reset the home wallpaper was no longer the custom eugenia one and also when first flashed the start menu wallpaper is blue until you soft reset then you get the custom one
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] leoni1980:
This ROM is pretty useless in its current form unless you never want to install a .cab file. Shame as it seems very responsive.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] bobsbbq:
This wallpaper not shown on first boot I have seen happen before on other ROM's and on mine. Not sure the reason but a soft reset gets the wallpaper back.

One thing I have noticed is the Virtual Memory usage is very high right after flash in slot 2. After soft reset it goes back down. If you run out of virtual memory you will experience many strange things like hard reset every time you soft reset, hangs etc.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development] CheongKing:
Huh??

Sorry is there such think call a 1GHZ Hack?