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[HD2 General] lobocalifas:
hey

come on guys I'm using a tmobile hd2 unlocked on ATT the speed isn't that bad and only for 10th bucks month t only problem its download time so enoying hd2
[HD2 General] c_legaspi:
you can always go with the palm pre plus when it comes out on att. im looking hard at getting one. i just recently bought a telstra hd2 as a replacement or supplement to my sony x1a. its a dam big phone... almost seems to big to comfortably carry around in your pocket (i hate belt clips or holsters) and so that is one of the reasons im looking at the palm pre plus. i like the form factor and i like the webos. it seem to be a pretty decent phone.
[HD2 General] billycox:
Just got the Telstra branded HTC Desire (850/2100), downtown Richmond VA must still be 1900 since I'm only getting edge. This would be a pretty amazing phone if AT&T would get 850 everywhere.
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
erm, which is it then? not so bad, or annoying?

:)
[HD2 General] drock212:
Where to get HD2 for ATT

Hi everyone,

Ive been reading about the HD2 coming to ATT now I know for a fact that ATT never picks up any of the good HTC's out there since they have the Iphone. But if anyone is interested in picking up an ATT compatible HD2 go to popularelect.com there you can get them unlocked and able to run off of ATT 3G network :) oh and also its running off windows mobile funny enough.
[HD2 General] pdiggitydogg:
Yeah, theres no hd2 that runs on att 3g at that site... Unless Im blind.

Can anyone chime in on the voice/call quality on the HD2 when on EDGE? My tp2 suffers a noticeable decrease in quality when Im off 3g and personally I cant deal with how tinny and echo-y it sounds.
[HD2 General] lquigley:
No 3g, ever

Hi, I've never had 3g where I live. Edge here gives excellent call quality. I do youtube, skyfire,slacker radio, I guess just slower than 3g, but i'm fine with it. Bing works great too..
[HD2 General] :
Anyone find a good price on a T9193 for 3G/HSPA on ATT? $800 is just nuts. I'd love to find one used...
[HD2 General] nrfitchett4:
switch to t-mobile. internet speeds are faster anyways.

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[HD2 General] johnboatcat:
Go to Ebay and do a search.

Set up an account and set a standard search and they will email all listings to you every day. There have been a few new in the box going for 550/575 range lately. Do an advanced search and select completed auctions to get a history of prices. I went on the Aust. Ebay back in March and found one for about $100.00 less then the current pricing then. Your pass word for USA Ebay and PayPal work on the Ebay down under.
[HD2 General] technillion:
Not for me...

NOT where I live! tmoUS is horrible!! When my contract ended a few months ago, I dropped them quick! Couldn't even get phone or data within 3 miles of my own house.
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
Bad news:(apparently no HD2 US:mad:
[HD2 General] MrObvious:
Well we are talking specifics about something that will be out maybe next year early on and may not hit CDMA carriers until later on.
[HD2 General] bugsy:
All that says is no unlocked hd2 for the US. It doesn't mean a carrier won't be picking it up. HTC themselves have already indicated it will be coming to the US early next year.
[HD2 General] mutantblack:
I don't think AT&T will pick it up since they want to keep selling iphone as much as possible and don't want any other phone that will compete with it. But I will be the first one in line buying if they do carry HD2.

Now since tmobile UK is already planning to sell it so US tmobile have more chances of carrying it.
[HD2 General] BrianSkibinski:
AT&T's exclusive contract with Apple expires in June, so it would be the perfect time to release a new, high-end device.

Why? I'm pretty sure that these contracts are on a per-region basis. Plus, there's nothing that says HTC has to license it exclusively, it could be on both TMobile and AT&T. Purely speculating, of course.
[HD2 General] grandpanda:
Finally got hold of my intel again. Sorry for the false excitement, he is saying HD2 is heading to Tmobile USA. He is 80-90% sure.... And it should be able to use ATT's 3G frequency too since HD2 is based on 8250 chip, which is capable of operating on multiple 3G frequencies. He is using a 8250 phone right now, and can do 3G on both ATT and Tmo...
[HD2 General] mr_Ray:
A lack of positive confirmation is not the same as a negative.

As has been said, it has already been confirmed that a version of the HD2 will be released locked up and tied down on one or more US carrier.
[HD2 General] poppinpengawen:
I doubt there will be an unlocked HD2 that runs US 3G. in fact, I doubt HTC will be releasing ANY phone that is unlocked for use on 3G networks in the US. for those of us on ATT we'll just have to wait for a Telstra variant in order to get 3G. or just cross our fingers and hope that ATT will see past the iPhone and offer their own HD2 variant.
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
Yep To T-Mo:confused:
[HD2 General] SnooPPP:
I can't believe T Mobile is even going to carry the phone. Considering US subsidies are absolute garbage compared to the rest of the world, I'm thinking the HD2 is going to go for at least $399 and probably after a $100 rebate.

Too bad TMobile's reception and data suck so bad, otherwise I would switch over
[HD2 General] poppinpengawen:
I agree. IMO, T-Mo severely overcharged for the TP2, and they're going to do the same thing again. I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of what you said, $399 after a $100 rebate, on contract. I don't even want to think of the off-contract price. I'd rather just buy an unbranded one w/ EDGE or one from Telstra AUS that I can use on AT&T's 3G network.
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
poppinpengawen make us inform of any news.how to use in the AT&T 3G network.
[HD2 General] poppinpengawen:
the European version uses UMTS/3G bands 900/2100, so the Euro version wouldn't work on AT&T's 3G network, which uses 3G bands 850 & 1900.

if a version of the HD2 is released on the Australian carrier Telstra, a GSM carrier (like AT&T) that uses the 850 MHz band, then we'd be able to use it on AT&T 3G in some areas.

keep in mind, however, that since the Telstra variant (if released) only uses one of AT&T's 3G bands, we won't get as strong of a 3G signal as we would if we were using an AT&T-branded phone. we also won't get 3G in areas that we normally would if we were using an AT&T-branded phone that uses the 850/1900 bands.

hope that clears up any confusion about using Telstra's HD2 variant on AT&T's 3G network
[HD2 General] DialecticThought:
I have one preordered from Clove, hoping news of a AT&T 3G version comes up before November 11. If Telstra (AUS) eventually releases one as they did with the Touch HD, they will probably be asking $1k. I'm not too sure the AT&T 3G compatibility is worth the $250ish premium. The only way I'll even consider waiting for the T-Mobile USA variant is if they can reassure us that they won't fubar the look of the phone and they somehow boost up their 3G coverage; making it comparable to AT&T Edge.
[HD2 General] x5-rwk:
I agree that the Telstra version is probably going to be our best bet for getting a AT&T 3G enabled HD2. Even if it only still has the 850 band and not the 1900 band it will still work on 95+ percent of AT&T network and by the time it comes out it will be even a higher percentage. I currently have the Telstra HD and have never not had 3G when I should have. I also carry an iphone 3G as backup.

I have serious reservations that a US T-Mobile Branded HD2 would also have the correct bands to work on AT&T's 3G bands as well. I don't believe any of the other devices that HTC makes for T-Mobile US has cross band compatibility with AT&T. WM or Android.
[HD2 General] poppinpengawen:
yea, it's a guarantee that T-Mo USA's HD2 variant will NOT work on AT&T's 3G network. completely different 3G bands. AT&T - 850/1900; T-Mo - 700/2100
[HD2 General] lude219:
any news of when telstra will make the annoucement for the HD2?
[HD2 General] poppinpengawen:
I read on wmexperts somewhere that the HD2/Leo has already made its way onto Telstra's website, although I haven't been able to locate it yet...but, if Telstra really IS going to release their own variant of this device, I'd say it'll probably a couple of months after it is released in Europe.
[HD2 General] Free Man:
It would be nice if Telstra gets theirs, then at least we could grab one in the US and use it on ATT with the 850...

Anyone use the HD1 on AT&T with 3G, how did it work without the 1900?
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
Some Good News for AT&T users?Today is the Launch of the HD2 by HTC in Taiwan.Maybe have more news for the US.
[HD2 General] nator76:
band and locations

question, are there any maps that show which ATT 3g bands are located where? And if i get this correct, 850 3g is the major, predominant band?

Also, if you are in an area that has the 3g band, that the HD2 WONT have, will it automatically default to the 2g EDGE band? Does each 3g tower also have 2g capabilities??

Having reception is crucial for my job, trying to understand this as i plan on getting the HD2. Thanks in advance!
[HD2 General] SnooPPP:
Not sure where you can find maps. Anyways, those maps usually give you a really vague description of your coverage. 850mhz is what ATT is supposed to be replacing all the 1900mhz towers with. Although, last time I used the 1900mhz where I'm at I had strong coverage. Haven't tried 850 here though

If you don't have 3G, then yes you will switch to Edge. Edge wasn't bad at all on my Touch HD. Web pages loaded pretty pretty quickly on Opera 9.7 if they didn't have a lot of images to load. I can imagine it's only going to get better on the HD2
[HD2 General] mojohio:
Can you explain? How could this be good news? How is that related? I'm not trying to be smart, just hoping we can someday in the next few months, be able to put all of the following words in the same sentence: good news, AT&T, US, HTC HD2.

Also, if AT&T signals are not at all related to T-Mobile, how can you explain that in our city, when they just put up new 3G towers for AT&T and I went from 2 bars on Edge to 5 bars of 3G at work, and friends of mine said the EXACT same Edge 2 bars to 3G 5 bars, with their T-Mobile service- how can they not be related?
[HD2 General] bugsy:
There are certain markets where ATT and T-Mobile share towers. The San Francisco Bay area was one of those, but there were others as well.
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
I would like to know when and if it is available for purchase. I did see that one seller in Australia is selling the HD2 but not sure where they are preordering it from. They have a release date of November 11th listed on their auction.

Anyone have any more info about when Telstra would be getting one?

Also, for the other poster who asked about the HTC Touch HD on AT&T's 3G network. I have an HTC Touch HD currently that is Telstra branded and it works perfectly fine on the AT&Ts 3G network here near the Washington DC area. It's not super quick but get's the job done.
[HD2 General] DialecticThought:
No news from Telstra. The Touch HD was released on Telstra's 3G/AT&T network about 3 months after the UK release so I wouldn't expect to hear anything for the HD2 until December. By then, a US release would be imminent (most likely T-Mobile).
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
I can't wait that long...lol. There's got to be another way...lol.
[HD2 General] bfspider:
I'm hopin tmo gets this. there have been small leaks [http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/10/14/htc-hd2-turns-up-in-purported-t-mobile-usa-materials/] that it might go there..

ATT charges too much these days >.<
[HD2 General] galaxys:
And hopefully tmob gets it early 1st quarter! It's still a long tuff wait...
[HD2 General] jtoyz2:
fingers points to tmobile though leaked docs here and there...but one can always hope it hit ATT...i know for one no matter how great a phone is i cant leave ATT to go to cdma company verizon or sprint or will never go to tmobile their service sucks reception and internet speed wise...if it hits ATT great but we are sure snapdragon is the future and HTC will eventually release a powerful device like Leo down the line maybe by this time next year with a keyboard hahah.
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
CLOVE

I have some quick questions that hopefully will be answered. If I buy the UK one from Clove's site I know that I will not be able to use the 3G in the Washington DC area. I know that I will only have EDGE.

My question is, will anything else on the phone not be available? Will I have any other issues beside just not having 3G?
[HD2 General] bersca:
3G is the only thing that will be missing. You will be able to use all the phone's features. I think it makes more sense to wait and see if AT&T will release it, and if not, go with Telstra. You will be paying a higher price to import it from Europe and you won't have 3G.
[HD2 General] PiSigma:
I had an interesting phone call today from AT&T Marketing. They called to get feedback on the AT&T Pure I bought recently (and returned for a Tilt 2). I told them several times that they really, really need to pickup the HD2. It probably didn't do much good but at least I feel that I made my opinion known to someone who might pass it on to the right people.

Of course if AT&T hasn't already started the process to get the HD2 we will probably never see it on AT&T.
[HD2 General] clubtech:
As long as at&t is is in bed with apple...you wont see any high end smartphone on this network (WM or Android).

It took the 8 MONTHS to release the tilt2 since it was announced. they have now finally released it as an obsolete device.

If you are going to see the HD2 on at&t...you can expect a loooong wait.

T-mobile will get it sooner.
[HD2 General] poppinpengawen:
that's one of the reasons why I hate iPhones. it's Apple's fault that we won't get the HD2 on time, if at all. and besides the fact that they're interfering with what phones come to AT&T, all those damn iPhones are taking up all the network space
[HD2 General] audscott:
Will a US branded phone, whether AT&T or T-Mo affect flashing custom ROMs?
[HD2 General] 10332007:
Thats up to the cooks but my Fuze took custom roms without any problems and its safe to say that so will the HD2 after some time for development.
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
Thanks. The thing is I rarely go online with my phone during the day. I have internet at work so if I need anything then I'm good to go and internet at home. So I don't see why I would need 3G. I currently have the T8285 and have 3G on my ATT plan and I never use it. Plus, I'd end up saving $15/month going from the unlimited 3G data plan to the unlimited 2G data plan. I also don't want to wait for Telstra to get one and end up paying around $1K as some people have mentioned.

If the 3G is the only thing I'd be missing then I'm going to order from Clove today. When and if I can get a Telstra one or an ATT one then I will. But people are saying that will be several months from now.

Also, anyone want a T8285...lol. Going to post it on the forum here for sale soon.
[HD2 General] Free Man:
I'd like to know if there is any information regarding the Telstra version, or if it is even in the works with their "Next G" 850 freq?
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
That's the question everyone on this thread, as well as others, wants answered. At this time, there is no word. What I've read is that with the original HD, Telstra had one available about 3 months after it hit the European market. So everyone is assuming that it's going to be the same scenario with the HD2. That being said we're looking at around February 2010 if at all. Also, some people said that the price when the HD came out on Telstra was a couple hundred dollars more than what the European sellers were selling it for. That being said, Telstra will probably sell it for around $1000 US dollars when it first comes out. Again, these are all speculations and no one knows anything at this time.

Another thing I read somewhere was that Telstra already has an HD2 that they are testing on their Next G network. But again, that's just speculation.

I just ordered the one from Clove. Due to ship out to me on the 13th barring any delay. I'll let everyone know how that turns out unless someone else beats me to it.
[HD2 General] mojohio:
Dang! I am so tempted to pull the trigger on the HD2 right now from Clove. Even though we just got ATT 3G up and running in our area last week, I'm still liking this phone enough to purchase it and go back to Edge speeds. Am I right in this conersion of Euro's: 456 Euro's to US Dollars= $677.71 I was expecting to pay more for that. Has anyone else from the states with AT&T network pre-ordered the HD2, and from where? Would you recommend going with that purchase?
[HD2 General] Free Man:
Unfortunately, on AT&T and in the US altogether, Edge speeds are slow enough to really kill the cool functionality of the phone...unless you just want the base functionality it just isn't worth it. Why HTC keeps doing this, I do not know. They cut out the US, Canada, Australia, etc and all for a few dollars per device that would easily be made up for in the additional sales and good PR they would receive for including it in the first place.
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
Well, the HD2 has a 1G processor so I'm sure it will help a little with the Edge speeds. Or, at least I'm hoping it will in case I need to use Google maps or go online.

I think you have the conversion wrong. I believe it's more like $750 US dollars after shipping and all. Use http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converter/?u#from=GBP;to=USD;amt=1 it's from Yahoo. It's not in Euros it's actually in Great Britain Pounds.

I ordered one from Clove this morning. They said that they should start shipping out preorders on the 13th of November. The original date was the 11th but it got pushed back. Can't wait.
[HD2 General] clubtech:
Another option with the euro version is to get the Verizon mifi...and then you get 3g anywhere and have the hd2 connect with wifi .

It is a twisted solution (and expensive) but it is the only to get the cool phones here before they become obsolete and still enjoy some 3g love.

There is also a mifi device for at&t which you can buy from expansys.
[HD2 General] donnaw:
I'll be honest. I'm beginning to think that the carriers are pulling strings to stop HTC et al from producing 3G devices for us unless one of them (a carrier) picks it up. I want an unlocked device. But it's beginning to look like I'll have to setle for Edge.
[HD2 General] 10332007:
Sure feels that way.
[HD2 General] Nighthawk:
Maybe the HD2 will have the ability to have the 850 frequency unlocked, didn't a previous HTC device have this happen?
[HD2 General] x5-rwk:
I would doubt it, many tried with the first Touch HD and failed. Our best bet is to get the telstra version when it comes out. I am sure it will cost an arm and a leg as well as an eye and an ear but if all the hype about this phone is accurate it will be worth it. I currently have the telstra Touch HD and love it, I can't wait for this one to come out. That being said, I will not buy one without US 3G frequencies in it.

If you are right I will be the first in line to get one.
[HD2 General] mojohio:
Check out post #13. This could be an option no one has brought up yet. Could this possibly work for receiving all the US att 3G bands:

http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=123306&page=2
[HD2 General] mallman:
well from my experience the ROM doesn't control the frequencies. That is a hardware limitation which was pointed out on the HD. No ROM out there will make the HD2 do ATT 3g if it is the same issue as the HD1 was. But hey, if you can get it to work i am all ears :)
[HD2 General] poppinpengawen:
am I missing something here?? the post that you linked to has a link to the Touch2, not the HD2

and Mallman is right, flashing a new ROM doesn't change what 3G frequencies a phone can use. the 3G frequencies a phone uses is a matter of hardware, not firmware. we can flash as many ROMs as we like on it, but we still wouldn't get AT&T 3G on the Euro version.

(it's funny how I see this exact same topic in every forum I've been involved in for a new device. saw it in the Rhodium forum, now I'm seeing it in the Leo forum)
[HD2 General] opTiTr0n:
looks like t-mobile

http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/htc-hd2/
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
Confirm is the Touch2 not the HD2.:(
[HD2 General] Darkriderdesign:
Has anyone ever cracked an HTC open and looked at the guts of the Phone?

I guess I have an out there question but... Nothing is really out there for an XDA forum.

So I have a Touch HD T8285, which works on AT&T's 3G.

If I bought a HTC HD2, could I open the thing up and put the Hardware from the Touch HD that gets US 3G into the HTC HD2?

I always wondered this question with the first HD series how the T8282 and the T8285 were the same bloody phone with a slightly different Radio?

I mean how hard could it be? little screw here, void a warranty there.

Is this like switching out a super mini PCI modem card?

Can this be done?
[HD2 General] Spartoi:
I hope its not T-Mobile, I wanted this to come out on Verizon or at least AT&T.
[HD2 General] thunder6290:
I have the same question.

is it possible to switch a radio chip or whatever control the radio freq from one htc phone to another one ?

sorry I never opened any of my phones but if it's possible I might :D

Tnx
[HD2 General] LCyberFox:
So if the hardware "can" do it, do you believe they will have a way to do it? I doubt the Tmo version will include the non-tmo bands.

Is anyone using the HD2 with EDGE in the northwest who wants to share their "speed" experience? :)
[HD2 General] pidsw:
The chipset and "radio" can handle anything, the problem is typically the amps for 3G frequencies, and/or licensing. I hope that the TMo version has an Amp for 850.

There are definitly models of the LEO that support 850 on ATT, and they are compatible with existing ROM's. I have seen them running on the ATT network with very good HSUPA and HSDPA reception.

Unfortunatey I do not know of any retail models.

Regaring Apple:

If the monthly plans cost the same, AT&T Earns far more on a WinMo device than an IPhone. ATT has to pay Apple over $200 for every IPhone they sell, otherwise the IPhone would be more expensive and Apple won't allow that.

I wish that ATT would give up its exclusivity so that Apple will have less leverage over them.
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
I too would like to know if anyone in the USA, no matter where you are, can give us some insight on how the HD2 handles the EDGE network? What types of speeds are you getting? Any info is much appreciated.

I'm in the Northern Virginia area myself and my HD2 is being shipped to me on Monday. Whoo hoo.
[HD2 General] DialecticThought:
Checked my DHL tracking this morning at 9:12. Stated package left Cincinatti, OH at 5:57. Thinking it will probably arrive on Monday (I'm in California, btw) I go to the grocery store. I return at 10:40 and see that DHL left a "Sorry we missed you" tag on my front door at 10:33! I go to the computer and check the tracking again and it states, "Out for delivery" at 9:15. Had I checked this morning 3 minutes later, or arrived home 7 minutes sooner I would have received my HD2. I tried contacting DHL and they said the earliest I can receive it is Monday morning. Ugh! I'm so irritated right now! It's gonna be a long weekend...
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
Put a post when you get it and let us know how the EDGE speed is on it. I'm sure it'll be great.
[HD2 General] lude219:
Here are some confirmations about the EDGE speed. Unfortunately, AT&T doesnt support class 12 EDGE, so the speed is gimped at 230kbps :(

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=582057&page=2
[HD2 General] bersca:
Any recommendations on vendors who sell Telstra branded phones? I just may have to pick up one of these puppies when/if its released on Telstra. I will definitely not be buying this one without 3G capabilities on AT&T.
[HD2 General] gator70:
Why worry about? The phone works on edge fine. I have one on AT&T.

If you want mobile internet use the MIFI from Verizon as internet connection for the HD2. That is my plan. The cost is $9.00 a month more.