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[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Black1982:
Why don't you just but an SD Cart? You can get like an 2 GB one almost for free. :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] f_mulder:
Thanks for the link!

I was looking for that explanation myself, with no luck.

I will check what can I do with it...

I sure do know how to rebuild the system.sqh, though I need check if

building the file is simple as it seems...

I just scrolled the text for now, so I didn't understand which key corresponds to which number, I'll read it carefully later...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] wingmanjd:
I'd be glad to help any way I can. I'll try putting a *.kl and *.kcm file together sometime this evening.

Here's my work so far on the layouts:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=ty0Cfgz0p0EIZTmWn_c-2Ng&output=html
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] wingmanjd:
Can't be hot-swapped

As far as I can tell, the keyboard layout for the Fuze can't be "hot-swapped" into the file system (at least not from within Android while it's running). I can't get the file systems to mount on my ubuntu 9.10 machine, although, that could just be my own limitation. I know enough to be dangerous, but not as much as I would like.

It looks like we're gonna need another fork of the builds for our Fuze devices if we want a "proper" hardware keyboard layout.

I can telnet into my phone but the file systems are marked as read-only (due to squashfs?). Can't find a way around this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] f_mulder:
To : wingmanjd .

Hi, I've checked your spreadsheet.

Nice start, I actually though I'll find the .ks file in that link.

Anyway, your spreadsheet mentions Fn key, while help files on kandroid.org

never mention it, so how will we know the Fn key's number?

I've mounted system.sqsh yesterday, and checked the qwerty.ks and sapphire-qwerty.ks , and found out that they look pretty much same.

Both don't mention the Fn key though. They seem to match regular PC keyboard's layout. Though, they mention the Alt key, which ma be our Fn key.

Will have to check that.

Also, there is a file , build.prop , which contains different environment variables and settings. As I understand, we will have to add a line mentioning our layout there. Or, may be preferred layout may be supplied as kernel parameter?

Thoughts, thoughts...

And anyway, I didn't mean to edit these files while Android is running.

I don't think it is a good idea for several reasons...

I think files are loaded during boot and thus changing them on the run, won't help. I might be wrong here, though. In fact , in Kubuntu I edited layout files while it was up... Donno... :) .
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] wingmanjd:
Woops, my initial attempt was just to write out what the Fuze keyboard had on it. Fn's have been removed. I agree that ours may need to be alt to allow the numbers

I couldn't find out how to mount the squash system. Kept throwing me a block error. I wouldn't mind screwing with the existing .kl files (while the system is off) and replacing what is there. Dunno.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] f_mulder:
You should mount system.sqsh in the same manner I've explained you in PM.

Only change is "rw" - discard it, so it will be "-o loop" .

Problem is, that squashfs is Read Only file system, so you won't be able to save your changes to mounted image.

What you have to do is :

1.Mount system.sqsh .

2.Copy ALL contents to some other directory.

3.Perform your changes.

4. Build new system.sqsh from directory mentioned in #2.

In {K}ubuntu , type mksquashfs , and you will get the right apt-get command ,

in order to install squashfs tools.

I'll be here for questions, if some arise :D .
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] siroftherings:
When will be solved the problem of the PIN in Android ?

Also qith the last versione the PIN to unlock my SIM card doesn't work :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] pauloviegas:
I jsut would like to quote this message to the admins of this forum to insist that we need

SUB-FORUM FOR ANDROID

in Raphael forum.

It's not possible to take care of so many different issues on the same treath.

Come on guys pressure and request, PMs to Admin's to have the sub Android forum. keep on placing the messages for the subforum!

Cheers!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] lukas.pce:
YES! :) :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] rorijam:
is this true? "3: tryout without compromise your current WM room.", I mean, can I try it and return to WM later? I am curious but not sure if this is possible. Thanks for answering.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] f_mulder:
That is correct. You don't have to flash anything to your device, you just run it as you would run any other program, and in the end you just soft reset and load WM back.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] peste19:
sorry for the dumb question but which raphel is the fuze?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] f_mulder:
Your question is not so clear ...

Do you mean to ask if Fuze is Raph100 or Raph110 ?

If so , you can take out your battery an check what you have written there.

This way you will know for sure...

HTH.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] pauloviegas:
YES!

That's why we need the

SUB-FORUM!

It is not possible to do a good job wiht this kind of organization!

Let's make a real force to push

SUB-FORUM.

Came on guys, we can do this!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] peste19:
we really need it... viva o portugal...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] simpleman:
i think it is necessary to have a sub-forum

i support ！！！！
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] simpleman:
i am using the rapheal of t-mobile ver.

so which startups.txt should i choose?

thx
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
look under your battery(back of phone) for your version.

ie: I have "RAPH110" displayed, so my version of startup.txt i would rename would be called "RAPH110.txt"
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] ryotgz:
Sub forums (or similar) FTW!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] simpleman:
thx,

and mine is "RAPH300",

anyone has the same display?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] simpleman:
and which one should i choose?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] TheDeadCPU:
Hardware Keyboard?

Anyone have ANY idea how to change the layout on the Hardware keyboard?

Norwegian for example..
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] austinm08:
'tis probably not a matter of the admins of the site refusing your request for a sub-forum, but more of a matter of them not noticing your request or just being apathetic about it. It would only take about 3 clicks and some keystrokes to add in the sub-forum.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] f_mulder:
Let's add a poll to our thread, and after it has enough positive votes, you will inform one of admins regarding poll results...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] haaibaa2:
For Raph300 (Vario IV) just use Raph100 it will work, but only the buttons are mixed up. I also have the same version, and have been using Android for quite some time.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] pauloviegas:
Poll is here, let's have all you guys votes for.

Tell all your friends about it! ;)

More and more votes are needed!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] juggz143:
I have 2 questions that I don't mean to sound over-zealous as I'm not contributing to the development but here goes...

1a) Is it possible to install sense ui on this or is it built into the rom like touchflo is? 1b)if its built into the rom (which im guessing it is) has anyone tried to build it into this yet? (just sayin it seems if we got the os running and pretty much all apps running, a ui shouldn't be that hard to add as all the work on porting android is done + all the work on adding sense ui to android is done albeit elsewhere)

2) I know it'll be a while but has any work been started on Android 2.0 port?

again these questions are more in the just wanting to know area, rather than the I gotta have it now area.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] azngl:
My question may sound a bit silly but... is there a way to go out from android other than switching it off (in m case it would rather be pulling out the battery)?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Sab3elbromba:
Same problem here, WiFi works great, but everything is so small I can barely see anything, I tried a few fixes that were posted at the beggining of this thread (startup.txt) but they didn't work .. can anyone show me how to fix this ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
i found using the correct "STARTUP.TXT" helps a little. either that or play around with the resolution. i'm not really using android as of now due in part that it cripples my phones ability to take and end calls(main purpose i use my device). as far as the "STARTUP.TXT" is concerned all i did was use the corresponding .TXT file for my phone. i have a RAPH110 so i deleted "STARTUP.TXT" copied "RAPH110.TXT" to the root of the microSD/tf card and then renamed it to "STARTUP.TXT" the screen was much fuller (not much black on top or bottom)

good luck all! hopefully this helps! perhaps i will assist later when i am not using my phone for its main purpose.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] mimariposa:
Increase the font size

Try adding the line "mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=240"

to the cmdline option of your startup file. The final file should look something like below:

set mtype 1910

set kernel zImage_20091117

set initrd initrd.gz

set ramsize 0x6000000

set ramaddr 0x10000000

set cmdline "root=/dev/ram0 init=/init console=tty0 mem=76M msmsdcc_id=3 imgdevname=/dev/mmcblk0p1 imgdevnum=1 imgdir=/ msmts_calib=0x6D.0x5D.0x340.0x375 ppp.nostart=1 msmvkeyb_toggle=off mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=240 clock-7x00.a11=528"

boot

Hope that helps!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Sab3elbromba:
This may sound like a lame question but where did u get this RAPH110.txt file from ? I have a RAPH100 myself but I don't know where to get the proper file ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Sab3elbromba:
Thanks man it helped and it worked ! Everything is bigger now and much more usable :-)

What about this RAPH110.txt file or RAPH100.txt file in my case since I have a RAPH100, how is that any different ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] utjeffc:
There really is no need for a sub-forum dedicated to Android on the Raphael. There is currently only one project working on getting it working. The only threads that would be in the sub forum would be the development thread (which would probably just redirect you to the main project thread in the Diamond forum) and a bunch of people asking how to get Android on their phone.

When an Android kitchen is made, and Android can flashed as the sole operating system of the phone, I could see the admins making the new forum. Until then, it is unnecessary.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] chamonix:
Time zone understanding

I've a problem understanding what's wrong with my settings and did a horrible mistake today and ended messing up my google calendar.

My wimo is set to TZ CET (GMT+1). My Android is set to GMT+1 as well. With that setting the time displays in Android is one hour ahead. When I move the time one hour back Andoid is showing the right but wimo runs one hour behind upon reboot.

So now I thought I was clever and just changed my TZ to GMT+0 in Andoid. At a first sight that seemed to be a smart move as Andoid and wimo showed the right time. But I didn't realize is that apparently Android synced my google cal passing another timezone.... so now all my appointements are messed up on wimo where google shows them correctly and I can't seem to be able to fix them to be consisitent on both sides.... I guess I'll have to delete them (it's just one week ahead) and I disabled gcal sync in Andoid to be on the safe side.

Now that's what I picked up from my observations.... any insight to confirm that any maybe a suggestion for a workaround?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
the files and folders displayed below are from the android 1.6 package dated 22.11.09 (link to page)

the folder that is highlighted is the default location of the custom startup txts before the initial run

the file outlined below is the file you'd use if you have a RAPH100 (mine is right above)

usually after you've run 'haret.exe' once, the files should be under the root directory.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Sab3elbromba:
Thnx alot man, worked perfectly !
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] X2D:
Just a small request but can the original post please be cleaned up a bit?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Sab3elbromba:
Am I the only one who is having the problem of the home button not unlocking the screen immediatly, it takes many presses and takes sometimes as long as a minute or so to unlock the screen after it has been locked with the hangup button, sometimes I have to reset the phone because it won't unlock with the home button !

Also the market place has very few apps, I'm not sure there are more than I am seeing, but I think the android market should have lots more than what I'm seeing, or is everyone getting the same results ?

One more question, how do list the currently open apps and switch between them? The only way I know now is to use the back button (right softkey) but I think that minimizes the open application and doesn't close it and then if I want to reopen it again I press the shortcut once more. That's a big problem when I have the browser open because everytime I press back (right softkey) I am taken to the previous page I visited and I keep doing that until I reach the 1st page I opened and THEN does the browser close (or minimize) , so any solutions ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] f_mulder:
To : vivalamoza .

I think in latest builds , Raph's power button acts as Android's "Home".

Try that. Long press on Raph's power button will display a window with list of lately opened applications.

As I feel, when you get back to home screen, all applications are closed, like in iPhone. That is very inconvenient for browsing.

If anyone knows how to keep applications running in the background and then switch between them, please share that info with us :) .
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
personally, i think a shortcut key to the home screen would definitely help. i am not a hundred percent sure on this but it was my assumption that "most" apps stay in the resident memory(or background) once run/opened :confused: (i could be wrong but again, i see nothing wrong with assuming as long as you are willing to own up to it! :D )
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] nGm@ze:
So, i haven't been updating my kernel along time so i went to connect-utb and get the latest android build and the latest kernel( the one with Wi-Fi modules and Bluetooth support from glemsom) and created a calibration folder at the root of my sd card and copy the calibration file that comes with the build and unpacked the tar archive mentioned on glemsom's website to the root of my sd card. So i go ahead and boot android, found Wi-Fi and Bluetooth not working anyone got any idea what have i done wrong. Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] azngl:
True, all apps remain open in background. I downloaded "adveanced task killer" in Android market, which show you what app is running and allow you to terminate them if you want it
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] f_mulder:
So is there a way to switch back to these apps?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
supposedly one of those types of apps (task killer) is supposed to be able to "switch" from apps running in the background but i have been unsuccessful in getting this function to actually work. i haven't figured it all out yet but then again i'm not really running android on my phone till the phone function works completely and not half of the time. good luck all!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] dieKatze88:
So Vogue is now booting from flash, and the developer that made this possible (dzo) has uploaded the code to his bootloader to sourceforge.

http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/tinboot;a=summary

Here's a link to the sourceforge git repository.

Here's a link to the thread, just in case there are some Vogue owners who upgraded to raphaels at some point who are now suddenly curious.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=573397 (**** starts to happen about halfway through that thread. but the whole thread is a decent read)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] wingmanjd:
To list the open programs, long hold the power button (home for android) for about 3seconds and it'll show what's running. Short pressing the power button will dump you back to the home/ desktop.

As for the unlocking, I dumped my data.img file that was created a few iterations ago of the glemsom package and started again from scratch. This seemed to fix my issue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] chamonix:
Holding the power button should blur the screen and pop up a switcher dialog with all running activities.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
are you certain? it seemed like it at first but then i noticed two of the same program in the list so i am thinking its a recently run programs list (perhaps?) would need to confirm this... (i think)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] qumani:
outgoing SMS

I have been out of the forums for about a week (had to kick my gf out of my house). Has anyone got outgoing sms working yet?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] pauloviegas:
yes, check lastest rom on 1st post.

Cheers
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] qumani:
I guess I should have wriiten the other half of the sentence. I wanted to know if anyone on ATT in US has got it to work.

The latest build is the one that I have (11/22)

Everything besides the SMS and GPS work for me, and I am aware that the GPS is not ready yet. I jsut dont understand why ATT is the only carrier that has an issue with outgoing SMS regardless of what WM ROM I have or Android kernel/ build.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] slick69:
The first post is a little confusing... is this a ROM or a program within WM? Also, does it work on the Sprint Touch Pro?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] evergreener42:
@slick69 well, it's definitely not a ROM, you copy the files to your storage card and then from WM you start a program called haret which loads/runs ANDROID. Will probably work on your phone. It's also like an alpha release so a lot of the programs/features don't work so it's not ready for prime time, kind of a fun toy to see what all the hype is about.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Ullmz469:
Google Voice

Is anyone able to find "Google Voice" on the Market?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] noellenchris:
I thought it was just me, since the nov 22 version, I couldn't find it either..??

anyone have it and can share? strange...:(
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
[Offtopic post]

not for free...

i've got an account... took me like 2 - 3 weeks after i requested one though
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] noellenchris:
I've got an account also, but when trying to find google voice in the Market, it's not there for us. It was on the previous builds for me, but not on the Nov 22 build....:(
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] f_mulder:
Well, I have just checked how it works in emulator, and that means it should also work this way on our device.

So, short press on "home" button ("Power" on our RaphXXX ) should bring you back to home screen, without closing the application you were running.

Long press, should blur the screen , and present a list of open applications.

Pressing on application's icon should bring you to that application, to a state where you left it (unless it is media player , which will probably continue playback in background - didn't check that).

So that's it...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] R^7Z:
strange... i found it :confused: i'm using the latest zImage (Date: Sun Dec 06 16:35:10 2009 +0100) and did a search for "google voice"

surprisingly its working! short press power button will take you back to your home screen/desktop. and it looks like it closes the last app run if pressed while running the app. example: i ran google maps and short pressed the power button and it took me back to my home screen and closed google maps. (from what i could tell from using es task manager)

still haven't figured out how to turn on the screen after it times out, other than opening the keyboard. device heats up still even after turning off auto-sync. not sure what causes that...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] prag16:
Icons, etc wrong size?

Sorry if this has already been asked; For every build since the 11/4/2009 build, The buttons and status area, etc are WAY too small. For example the top bar with the time, signal, etc takes up about 1/2 the vertical real estate that it should. Same goes for any buttons at the bottom, or menus, etc. I can't believe I could possibly be the only one with this issue. It pretty much looks as if it thinks my screen is 1280x960 rather than 640x480...

(Also all of a sudden I can't establish a data connection; this also worked in 11/4/2009 build right out of the box).

One last problem; It is nearly impossible to wake the device up after it sleeps (ALSO did not happen in 11/4/2009 build). I have to hit buttons several times, and if I'm lucky it MAY finally wake up...

Using AT&T Fuze.

Any ideas?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Bowdowntozoltan:
so is it looking like this will ever be a real ROM? Instead of just running over WM?

Reason I ask is because I use an N97 as my main phone now, but if I could have android on my Fuze I'd gladly switch back.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] edoka:
??

i installed some things work some dont

sms i can receive but cannot send out

calls work great

market works great

wifi says *wifi turning on..... then a few seconds later wifi turning off....*

id would donate if a dev team get this thing working beautifully

its almost there just a few drivers and tweaks

wm+android= over exposure to pure awesomeness*wheres this from*

never go back to icrap
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Bowdowntozoltan:
So I'm going to give this a shot when I get home. Few questions.

What's all this about RAPH 100/RAPH 800... curious to know what that means.

What can I do to help? I'm totally willing to ditch my Nokia N97 once Android is decently stable and most things work all the time. So what can I do, to expedite the process? I'm no developer but I have free time after school and whatnot, I can learn...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] f_mulder:
Please post the contents of your Startup.txt here, then someone might have some ideas.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Bowdowntozoltan:
yeah same problem hear with screen resolution.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] mimariposa:
Screen resolution fix

Try adding the line "mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=240"

to the cmdline option of your startup file. The final file should look something like below:

set mtype 1910

set kernel zImage_20091117

set initrd initrd.gz

set ramsize 0x6000000

set ramaddr 0x10000000

set cmdline "root=/dev/ram0 init=/init console=tty0 mem=76M msmsdcc_id=3 imgdevname=/dev/mmcblk0p1 imgdevnum=1 imgdir=/ msmts_calib=0x6D.0x5D.0x340.0x375 ppp.nostart=1 msmvkeyb_toggle=off mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=240 clock-7x00.a11=528"

boot

Hope that helps!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Bowdowntozoltan:
worked like a charm, thanks!

also, no wifi for me, not sure why. tries to turn on and fails.

and besides that I'm pretty impressed.

edit: call me stupid but how do you close apps?

also, the only way i can get it to wake back up is to cycle the KB a couple times... how are you supposed to do it

randomly my keyboard stopped working. i must say the on screen keyboard is wonderful!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] PoW3r:
But The Gps?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Android Development] Bowdowntozoltan:
no GPS.

not a huge loss for me, I'd prefer more stability and the camera working. and someone to post exactly the key mapping.

oh and i cannot hear anything in calls. i can place and receive them but i have no sound.