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[XPERIA X1 General] szlevi:
Makes zero sense to mfr different hardware versions especially when you are asking high-end price.

I am pretty sure it will have quad-band radio.
[XPERIA X1 General] ipporek:
So much for the rumour. It's the 6th already but still nothing.
[XPERIA X1 General] augie7107:
Sony Ericsson has NEVER released a device at deadline.
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
it was only a rumor and i did say that at best it would release mid to late november.
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
But still no reviews... I remember you said (Ganondolf) that you got an info that they might be coming. Any news on this? Thanks.

Also, the Timescape and Mediascape for the X10 look great. A pity they are not doing something similar here (and as smooth - I know no Snapdragon...).
[XPERIA X1 General] 10123:
It wasnt a rumour, it clearly said it on the Vodaphone website, and SE Store now have the x2 for pre order and have taken it off the coming soon section, so it is going to be released in the coming days.
[XPERIA X1 General] medzz:
Damn, i hope someone in the rom developing forum will buy x2 so they can dump the room and pass it on, im realy in to the new style ! :D
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
play.com has removed x2 info from its website too.

as far as reviews on the x2, i contacted the SE xperia blog (official blog by the guys making the x2) and they told me they were still waiting for the final firmware (this was last week) and they would send it next week (this week).

i have sent them a direct message on twitter to find out the status but have had no reply yet. its very strange and concerning that the info has been taken down from some shops websites.

ps. the vodaphone dates have been wrong for many phones (i guess they cant help delays etc)

EDIT:

play.co has put the info back up with coming soon (same as it was before they removed it)
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
when i bought the x1 i ordered it from the SE online store that said they had them in stock but then i got a phone call saying that they would have any for 2 months. i canceled my order and bought it on the same day from play.com and it came 2 days later. the SE online store is **** and can not be trusted for release dates or stock.
[XPERIA X1 General] dogans:
Swedish stores say Nov 25th, so there you have it.

http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=102781
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
My info is

December 2009 in Poland/SE official store.
[XPERIA X1 General] microwater888:
lol talk about US version, we probably will see it by Q2-3 2010 no thanks bye bye SE I had enought wait for the X1 and I'm NOT going to do that again
[XPERIA X1 General] ipporek:
Doubt it'd be that late, given that X10's supposed to be Q1 2010.
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
hm, what a damn time to wait xD

i bought mine in a vodafone shop, he said i have to wait about 2 weeks.

that was on the 29th October.

so, i think one week and we got...
[XPERIA X1 General] medzz:
Okay, ive found on a swedish website that it will be released on the 25th they are usualy very precise check it out: http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=102781
[XPERIA X1 General] jondalar:
Is it just me or has the X2 lost a lot of it's appeal since the x10 has been announced? :confused: I mean... the X2 just seems to be a slightly (and I DO mean slightly) improved and polished X1...
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
For many - yes,

X10 seems a device they've been waiting for.

For me X2 is the only way to go.....
[XPERIA X1 General] ipporek:
Well, X2 really is just a slightly improved X1. Or to me, it's what X1 'should have been'.
[XPERIA X1 General] allenx1:
Though the X2 is a little better, the X1 does look more special and sexier. I just wish the X1 had the X2's power( if it improved at all) the bigger flush screen. and the keyboard. besides that I liked how the X1 looks.
[XPERIA X1 General] 10123:
SE store have update the SE page saying in bold letters at the top of the text "exclusive to Vodafone", which would give the impression that the phone won't be availble sim free, just through vodafone only :confused:
[XPERIA X1 General] Shimpuu:
X2 Middle November

Hello Guys!

I work in a mobile phone shop and we sell contracts from vodafone germany. However, Last Saturday I'd order my new X2 and my boss tell me that it comes middle November in Germany. I tell you, when its finde the way to me.

With best reguards
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Are you serious?

You believe they'd not sell one of their flagships on their store?!

It will be available December, in SE store, in Poland...
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
play.com has still got the x2 as coming soon for the sim free one. i know its exclusive to vodaphone but they still release a sim free version too.

anyway got a message from SE, they said they are still waiting for final final final firmware.

i then sent a message saying that they must be having bug problems and asked if the x2 will still make the november uk release.

they said it was not bug problems but final tweaks and as far as he had been told it would still be released in the uk in november.
[XPERIA X1 General] mumbai:
I was not impressed by the X1, let's see with this one how is going to be, looks smoothly
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Basically the same info I got in Poland.

They may work on giving the radio back, hopefully..
[XPERIA X1 General] danjwalker:
I phoned Vodafone

A week ago, they said 27th November.

By the way, have to say this bit:

[rant]

I have an X1, it is the quite annoying. So slow, you think you have clicked something (waited 5 seconds) then click again and it does that function then the one which is on the next screen from the first click, which PEES me off.

I so hope that the X2 behaves nothing like the X1. The unresponsiveness, freezing, switching off in my pocket and the most annoying of all: Being in my pocket, just feeling my pocket I know I have a text or missed call as the phone is quite hot. It is a pathetic phone, more like a bad prototype. I cannot be bothered with applying ROMs as it should work by the people that made it, not some guy hacking 1's and 0's in his pants in some dark room.

What is more annoying, work are buying me an X2 as soon as it is out on Vodafone. I suppose it will only be annoying if the same design team has made this one, even though the specs are virtually the same.

SORRY!

[/rant]
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
phone call?

u got an answer by a phone call with a real date?

wow, my hotline only says: sorry we couldnt say something direct to this, but it came this moths...
[XPERIA X1 General] jondalar:
Does this story remind any1 of something? This is all turning into last year's X1 story allover again.:mad: Pushing away the release dates and the expectations of phone's performance...:rolleyes: I do hope SE does it right this time.
[XPERIA X1 General] 10123:
The X2 will be out in November, stop worrying so much, even though on the Voda website it did say 6th of Novemeber. SE website says November, Vodafone are still saying novemeber. They are waiting for the final firmware, would you rather get the phone now and be moaning about some feature or software improvement missing or wait a little bit for a software update.
[XPERIA X1 General] ipporek:
Oh well, come to think of it, as much as I really like the flush screen and keyboard of the X2, think I'll probably end up forgoing it, given that those (plus the accelerometer) ain't exactly a really good reason for me to be getting that to replace my X1. Furthermore, I'm intending to get the X10 too, to replace my ancient K800. So well, probably will just wait for a X3 (or maybe if the X2 becomes real cheap). That is if SE still continues with Windows Mobile...
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
well

Sony site says X2 is out now, the little star is away...

so, VF give it to me, NOW!!!!
[XPERIA X1 General] ultrashot:
http://semcblog.com/2009/11/20/launch-date-of-sony-ericsson-xperia-x2/

about release date
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
http://www.se-store.co.uk/index.cfm...F64AB&pid=84988B5C-1372-3F50-724EE1837C0FCEF5

Expected date Dec 9
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
SE Email

hmmm, but why the Hell...

SE sends an email to me " The X2 is available NOW "

Be he first and order now....

wtf... what a p0wn

grmbl
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
yea they mailed me too and its not even released -.-
[XPERIA X1 General] vanilla.coffee:
Vodafone say they will have them in store on the 27th Nov.
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/sony-ericsson-x2

the reviews here have said the battery life is poor :S any 1 else heard of this?
[XPERIA X1 General] bob2k4:
Given SE's recent pull of the Satio & Anio from the UK markets for software fixes, I can't see the X2 getting a release this year. I mean SE's own website has gone from Oct 09, to Nov 09, now Dec 09. Vodafones has gone from October to November, and November has 3 days left. I can see this phone coming in March 2010 at the earliest.
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
VF uk... lol

They say it comes due November... :confused:

So, i think they have to speed up a bit xD :D

http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/sony-ericsson-x2

-> WoW now its due January....

what are u doing SE????
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
"due January"

well the X2 launch is gonna be as messed up as the X1 then - its been push back further and further and are going to miss the xmas sales - but it better be for a good cause - when its finally released it better be smoother than..... erm a window
[XPERIA X1 General] emuneee:
LOL, sony sony sony :rolleyes:

Why is it so hard to release the X2 on time when they developed the X1 for two years. You would think some lessons would be learned from the first project and applied to the second. It's not like they had to start from scratch on the X2.
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
well

I think, i cancel my order and choose another phone...

BUT

which phone is similar to the x2 ? :confused::confused::confused:

The HTC TP2(Rhodium) seems very nice.. but the Camera is only 3,2 mp and i dont know if its great like the x2, so plz help me!!!

Thanks ahead PhenO
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
If camera is a concern, never buy HTC. I like my KAISER but their cameras suck big time. TP2 should be no different. I tested Diamond 2 which is 5mp. A little better but not comparable to Nokia's and Sony cybershots, even with 3.2mp.
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
its the form factor, i really like the keyboard art and the big touchscreen...

so, the 2 ones are the only solution...

hmm, do you think that VF would cancel the order for me and go get a TP2?? its not available for VF Germany... only VF UK got it for Business.. and then its with qwerty and not with qwertz keyboard...

and could i get it too for only 129,99€????

questions over questions and no answers....
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
Hello there

Probably you could go for omnia pro. I have it now

Omnia pro has better than TP2:

Processor:

800mhz against 528mhz

is not only about mhz but i can really see the speed is amazing in installing apps etc.

Video recording and camera:

samsung records 720x480 @30fps while TP2 VGA@15fps

Camera 5 Mpx dual flash against 3.2 Mpx no flash

MUSIC

Omnia pro has 3.5mm jack and WOW hd option which is amazing. TP2 has no 3.5 mm jack

Weight

Tp2 159 g against 180 g of TP2

One little secret :)

Omnia pro has a digital compass which is not used by any application now but in the future might be used. You can test it with an app of samsung anyway

now

What is better on HTC TP2

Look

TP2 looks more sexy while omnia doesnt look bad ... but not like tp2

titlting screen (0.1" bigger also)

HTC software

both have heavy customizations but htc (and xda-devs) have much richer software support. tf3d dont run on omnia pro.The modifications made on omnia pro make it more I-phonish.... all is with scrolling lists... etc but not comparable to htc UI.

Better keyboard

and this is also not a doubt the 5 row well spaced keyboard of TP2 is better than Omnia Pro.

My personal Advice

If youre more business minded go for TP2

if you like multimedia on your phone (Music...camera) go for Samsung

Hope all this helps

Regards

Informatico
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
wow

fast answer

but as i saw the omnia pro in the shop and hold it in my hand...

... it was not the one i like to use...

but very thanx for that answer

i hope SE going to give it like the online shops would like to, they sayd it comes in 8-14days and the other sayd in midle of december

if they´re not going to give for x-mas sales they can leave it in the stash xD
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
Hey i see you are in germany as well :)

Have a look at this

http://www.7mobile.de/handys/sony-e...n-business-smart-phone-handy-mit-vodafone.htm

I guess u might have already seen it

a nice phone is also milestone which is already available on 7mobile and they are very fast in shipping.

I guess there is no better phone than X2 honestly ... but damn SE why are they always so slow
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
I will wait for X2.......

No other choice I see........

For me.
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
aiy

the milestone is no choice, i think i have to wait for x2 to...

there is nothing bedder anywhere....

hehe, they say available at end of nevember too xD
[XPERIA X1 General] informatico:
Yeah they are pushing and pushing always the date ... have forgot to update that one ... :P
[XPERIA X1 General] johhn:
I've been waiting n waiting on x2 but it seems so hopeless to come out b4 xmas, now I'm gutted and give up on it.

been thinking about htc touch pro2, but the camera is always the weakest link for htc products, if only tp2 got a decent camera like cybershot I'd be happy to go for a contract on it but 18 months with that camera just doesnt do it for me.

I'm also thinking about the new coming motorola milestone, it's android system and I've never had one b4, I hope I can find enough ''free'' softwares as what I'd do with windows mobile phones, any thoughts guys ?
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
What to tell you?

I've read there's already alot of software for Android,

but I'm not sure you can tweak the whole thing like on WM.

As for cameras - Motorola was never acknowledged as a leader in camera quality......

I don't know what to advice.

I plan to buy a new device next year.

I'll use my X1 for over a year which is still a very satisfying device.

Looking at the current form factor tendencies there won't be many phones

with qwerty and dpads etc.

I made my choice and it will change only when reports will claim X2 is a kind of disaster.

Right now I don't see any other contender supporting my needs.

I also definitely say no to capactive screens.
[XPERIA X1 General] johhn:
thanks

I really like x1's keyboard which is why I was looking forward to x2 but cant wait that long til next year due to my xmas plan.

I've just found out that another handset is to come out on contracts,Samsung Omnia Pro B7610 , but youtube video makes it look a bit of slow despite of having a faster cpu, any idea if I could tweak it around easily ? I know samsung got a different UI.
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
This review is very nice towards OMnia:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_b7610_omniapro-review-420.php

If it were not for the utterly lack of hardware keys, I would consider this. Although not great on this matter (specially no real D-Pad), X2 has some more keys, which is a factor to me.

Reports on Droid Camera are not really good. People believe it is a focus issue to be resolved with a firmware. They believe, not sure. And, yes, TP2 camera, as I said previously, should suck as all HTC cameras (one of the main reasons I am willing to replace my Kaiser, which otherwise has been great).

PS: If you like X1 Keyboard I guess you will not have much trouble with any other keyboard. In my experience, it is very bad compared to HTC's (Kaiser, Wizard).
[XPERIA X1 General] johhn:
thanks for the link to the B7610 review.

I've never had real qwerty phone b4 and got so bloody fed up with touch screen writing/texting. the keyboard on X1/X2 looks like a very standard laptop keyboard to me and it's not as 'flat' as other keyboard. so why do you not like its keyboard ?

I'm considering getting either a Samsung B7610 or second-handed X1 as a temperary solution and wait for X2 and its reviews, however am not sure if B7610 would ever come out with short term contracts(12 month) b4 xmas and even a sencond-hand X1 would cost around 150 quid now. is it even worth it to buy one now after being launched nearly a year ago ? so decision decision decision......
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
X1 has tiny keys compared to my Kaiser and even old Wizard. Very easy to mix keys, and the "press key" feel was much worse for me. I really dislike X1's keyboard. But that's very personal of course.
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
Whoever was curious about how HTC new device's (first half of 2010) would compare to X2, the only one with similar characteristics is the last on the list and very similar to TP2, thus it does not look to be very interesting.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/12/06/htcs-1h-2010-portfolio-leaked-pictured-and-specd/
[XPERIA X1 General] ipporek:
Well, maybe SE too will go announce a X3 (not the X10) next year, based on the way how all the companies seem to be announcing a follow up each year (like how Photo is supposedly Diamond 2's successor).

Anyway, still no news of when X2 will be released here in Singapore. Newest phone to be released here's the Touch HD2.
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Officially January in Europe.
[XPERIA X1 General] vanilla.coffee:
Just had this email
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
hmm, so what did this mean? they always say due January...

I hate to wait.....
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
Now Sony Ericsson site updated to expected date Jan 10...

http://www.se-store.co.uk/index.cfm...F64AB&pid=84988B5C-1372-3F50-724EE1837C0FCEF5

Also, there is this video walk-through:

http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...n-xperia-x2-not-quite-so-monster-walkthrough/

Hey Ganodolf, no news from SE about the review models?
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
have not had a reply to why the delay yet
[XPERIA X1 General] Ganondolf:
here is a quote from the official xperia site:

X2 to be launched in January

// December 10th, 2009 // ANNOUNCEMENTS, X2, X2 News

Hi All – Over the last couple of weeks there has been a few, OK more than a few rumours that the X2 is going to be delayed until January and I’m sure it will not come as a surprise when we say that these are well founded.

The software worked fine but when we started integrating it with some of the network specific apps it threw up a few issues which we’re working to fix.

It’s all minor tweaks really (extending the battery life and speeding up aspects of the software), but we want to be sure that when we ship this it is as good as it should be and that you don’t have to constantly upgrade the software as we iron out these wrinkles.

So… we’re launching first week of January. Really sorry if you were looking forward to getting hold of one before then but it will be worth it when we get there.

Thanks for your continued interest in the site.

Aaron
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

i dont wanna wait till january
[XPERIA X1 General] comeradealexi:
read what Ganondolf said..............
[XPERIA X1 General] rohorubo:
official (confirmed by SE) information regarding the release of X2 is the first week of january. please read here why the release has been postponed.

ups: already served by another one ;-) sorry for double post.
[XPERIA X1 General] bronx:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNMxkS-5lw0

have You seen this guys? are You still waiting for it?? damn... I don't believe in magic and I doubt if SE will manage to squeeze out more power from msm7200.
[XPERIA X1 General] johhn:
I was waiting for X2 for ages cos it fits my 3 criterias

1.winodws mobile - need office pocket and other 'free'(commercial)softwares - so no nkia n900, motorola milestone or X10

2. qwerty keyboard - so fed up with touch screen texting/writing - so no HD2 or other thin good-looking handsets

3. decent camera with at least 5MP+LED flash - so no any HTC handsets( camera is HTC's weakest link)

just watched the clip and was shocked that it was that bad in terms of the responding speed. I was quite in doubt about the processor and now I'm now definitely getting another windows mobile handset, which is samsung omnia pro B7610. it's not as fast as other handsets but it seems to be much better than X2 and my only choice so far that I can see. hopefully it comes out b4 xmas from carphone warehouse.

btw,

are there any other handsets I missed out ?
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Guys,

are you mad??!!

I watched the video few times.

It's absolutely clear for me that this guy is fckn mumbling around

the screen with his dead fingers,

where WM still requires Stylus!

It's a resistive screen right?!

So requires certain amount of precision, what is perceived as a main

drawback of this kind of screen.

My X1 is exactly equally not responsive when carelessly touching the screen with fingers!

The guy is just a dickhead, sorry.

There's dozens of other videos showing X2 beeing snappy.

Why to believe this crappy reviewer.

I'm really surprised you really believed this "video" and didn't actually notice

how dumb the operator is!
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Yeah but were able to make X1 which is fine?

Use your thinking more often.
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
I agree with you. He seems careless when pressing and it needs more attention on resistive screens. He is pressing exactly like he did with the HD2 walk through he shot (actually really impressive responsiveness, but then it is a capacitive screen with its advantages and drawbacks in WM).

I believe GTrab in his assessment of X2 in another thread did not complain about touch responsiveness and he had the Diamond 2 to compare. Actually I believe he was impressed with overall performance. So I assume if it is pressed more accurately responsiveness will be average for this processor clock. But we will have to wait new videos.
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
BTW, look at what he said when one asked to compare screen sensitiveness of X2 and Dimanond 2:

"The screen sensitivity is pretty good. It bizarrely seems to be slightly less sensitive at the top right corner (where the X is!), but overall it responds to the softest of touches."
[XPERIA X1 General] doministry:
Exactly. This review is very badly made.

We all know that capactive and resistive screens have both advantages and disadvantages,

but the hell - they need different treatment!

And true, Gtrab videos show very good responsivity.
[XPERIA X1 General] mbernstein:
Here is a new review of pre-final X2. I believe this is the FIRST photo sample posted of a picture taken by the X2. That I know, neither Gtrab, Paul at Modaco, or the previews at PhoneArena and other places have posted any sample. I wonder why as this shall be one of the most sought after features of this phone...

http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/sony-ericsson-xperia-x2-review
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
seems nice

but when did WE get the phone?

i need it badly, cause my BB BOLD is a bit broken... and it starts to lame...

hmmm, question.... is it possible to use the x2 as a wlan router? like a fritz box... ??

i hate it to use bluetooth at the bold...
[XPERIA X1 General] emuneee:
You can use any WM phone as a wifi router if it has wifi. There is a great program called WMWifiRouter (Google it) that enables you to share your cellular/3G/HSPA connection via wifi.
[XPERIA X1 General] DK2000:
X2 is delayed - comes January 2010 (at least in europe?!?)...

http://xperiancers.com/2009/12/10/x2-to-be-launched-in-january/
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
hmmm, is the HD2 a solution...

VF Germany got it, and i dont want to wait so long for it...
[XPERIA X1 General] pf:
No TV-out at HD2. No D-pad. And is there landscape modus at it? :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X1 General] xXPheNomEnoNXx:
where is the problem that we cant get the x2?

bugs can be fixed through updates... or not?