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[HD2 General] Goatmaster:
This thread is for ATT not Verizon so you suggest we want to pay 200 (without 2 yr commit) to Verizon to have another monthly fee for the 3G access that is not unlimited? 250 Meg plan = 40 | 5 Gig = 60. Plus taxes and activation fees... I don't think this is the solution people around here are looking for.
[HD2 General] gator70:
You must not be informed. $39 a month is the cost. AT&T charges $30 a month for internet connection. The MIFI can be had for zero dollars with a contract. AT&T want a contract for internet services too! The phone is connected to AT&T and the internet come from Verizon. So what. AT&T has not enough 3g coverage. I am a AT&T customer for six years. I won't change.

I will use mine for copilot live. The 3g coverage matters!
[HD2 General] lude219:
So let's say that whenever you're on the road and you want "3g" access, you have to lug around the mifi router?
[HD2 General] gator70:
Lug around? The size of a thick credit card. Hardly lugging around. I throw mine in the glove box of the car. So I have a internet enabled car.
[HD2 General] GSLEON3:
HD2 - Coming to the US...

The HD2 is indeed coming to the US, but right now it is slated as a T-Mobile device.

I am in the midst of doing some radio work & so far have actually suceeded in getting T-Mo 3G working on an AT&T Fuze. You don't have to believe me, but soon I will be asking JockyW to team up with me again (we were the ones that devised FrankenKaiser for the Tilt) to work on this issue. I have had to come out of pocket greatly for this issue. I had to buy a Tilt 2 & a Touch Pro 2 to be able to get this thing rolling. Hopefully the HD2 will also employ software/Registry restriction instead of HW restrictions when it comes to 3G frequency.

If I can indeed get the Kaiser, Fuze, TP2 & Tilt2 to be able to use the differing freq's for 3G, I can probably get the HD2 to do the same. I should know in a week or so. The TP2 & the Tilt 2 are in the mail & I shoud recieve them tomorrow.

I can certainly tell you for sure though, that I DID indeed get 3G going with T-Mobile using an AT&T Fuze. The only issue was that I had to import dynamic libraries, the ril & many registry settings. While the 3G did definitely work, the device also had to be reset afterward due to some incompatible registry settings & resources.

BUT IT CAN BE DONE & I INTEND TO PROVE IT. Hopefully the radios will be simillar enough, because I just cannot afford to buy another device. I did wonders with Kaiser/Tilt because I had 6 donated to me. I destroyed 5 of them making certain unlockers worked & to help make the unbricker. My Fuze was also donated to me, but this time I had to buy both the tMo & AT&T versions of the TP2. I am a Chef, but I only share me roms with a few people because I haven't the time to support it for the masses. I also am a bit of a hand when it comes to the radios.

If I indeed figure out a way to have 3G on any freq in the US with the TP2, Kaiser/Tilt, I may solicit sdonations for doing the same for HD2. I have always had AT&T, just switched to TMo, but am going back to AT&T because TMo sucks in many of the places I visit. I like the LEO, but so far it looks like it will only be TMo as far as GSM goes...at least for now ;)
[HD2 General] bugsy:
If you can get it to work on ATT 3G I will definitely line up for a donation as I'm sure many others would.
[HD2 General] harsaphes:
Wow...so funny to me that everyone LOVES AT&T....I got rid of my Iphone because the service was so lousy in NYC..Im on TMO now and I have a much better signal.
[HD2 General] bugsy:
I think it depends where you are. I've had T-Mobile in the past, but found ATT to have much broader coverage. I think to a certain extent it depends on where you are and where you travel.
[HD2 General] Pinguino1:
What? Your iPhone has better signal with T-Mo? LOL
[HD2 General] Pinguino1:
Man!! That's phenomenal. Can you do that with an European HD2 into an AT&T UMTS 850/1900?
[HD2 General] harsaphes:
Actually my iphone had a better signal in NYC with Tmo than ATT...esp where i work i could never get a signal....
[HD2 General] Pinguino1:
Your iPhone is getting 3G with T-MO??

No, you can't. The iPhone doesn't have the UMTS frequencies of T-MO.

If you are talking GSM 2G - That's posible but that's is too slow anyway. Almost any phone has a quad band GSM 2G but that is not UMTS and it is 1/5 to 1/10 of the 3G speed.
[HD2 General] t-readyroc:
Rogers/Telus?

How about the Canadians? Wouldn't an HD2 released by either of those carriers work on AT&T's 3G bands?
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
Did you ever get your phone DialecticThought? If so, how's the Edge speed on ATT?
[HD2 General] harsaphes:
Im talking about actually having a SIGNAL!....
[HD2 General] DialecticThought:
i ran quite a few speed tests and so far I've gotten sad results. 73 kbps seems to be the norm out here in northern California. doesn't affect me much since i have wifi just about everywhere i go.
[HD2 General] Alaxar:
http://wmdeals.com/

Keep an eye on these folks. You can get a TP2 for $49.99
[HD2 General] sumitescp:
I am 99% sure that I saw a video review of the hd2 with an ATnT sim card using HSDPA. The other 1% says that it may have been just a dream. Well i am not even in USA so it might not be a dream.
[HD2 General] bL1X:
Brandon over at pocketnow did a video review and he put an AT&T sim card in his HD2. He was using WiFi for data and he mentions the lack of 3G on that phone in then US.
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
Thanks Dialectic Thought. I'm not too good with how the numbers compare on 3G and Edge and have to ask. I understand what 73 KBPS means but how does that compare to 3G speeds or EDGE running on the Touch HD? Is it faster, slower or just the same?
[HD2 General] clubtech:
If anyone wants the HD2 on at&t and edge i recommend the MiFi.

EDGE will be slow and pages will load slow......

YouTube videos will be slow and you can’t listen to internet radio on edge.

The MiFi really solved all this for me. I know it is an expensive solution.
[HD2 General] mike91t:
I have my HD2 connected to ATT. I must say I am plesantly suprised to find it is quite fast on loading pages compared to my previous HD on Edge. I did a few speed tests and have peaked at 170 some kbps (used the iphone speedtest). That was taken about a mile from a tower with a clear line of sight. The Opera 9.7 does seem though to make the most of the connection :)

I'm located just south of Harrisburg Pa.
[HD2 General] Bakzoom:
Thanks. This helps me somewhat. My HD2 is on its way from Clove and I'm trying to get an indicator of how good the EDGE speeds will be although I don't get online too much with the phone. Can't wait to try it out for myself.
[HD2 General] buffalosolja42:
What is the cost on the HD2

??? I was wondering I though about picking it up but I heard it was like 800 which half of my mortgage (wife wouldn't go for that, and the fact I just added a line to get her a d*** iphone alot of apps though so may use to my advantage). Sorry for long side note and if there is any official news if ATT will get if so I can get a good deal on one is why I am asking. Thanks in advanced.
[HD2 General] Goatmaster:
I still don't understand how an ATT user is going to get a MIFI without a contract. I am guessing you are saying kill the ATT data plan, which probably has early term fees and I share with my family anyways.

MIFI.. Sounds like it would be having a second telephone from a different carrier just for the internet.
[HD2 General] ugarhino:
When?

I am hoping some of you with more experience with the way new phones are released can help me make a decision.

When can we expect for an official announcement on which U.S. carrier will have the phone and when it will be released? Do they wait till right before they release it before they let you know for sure?

If it is going to be another six months, and it's going to be on T-mobile, I won't wait hoping to have 3G, I'll just go ahead and buy one now. But if I go ahead and buy one and two months from now, I could get one from ATT with 3G for a greatly subsidized price, I would be pretty upset.

So, is there any chance they will let us know for sure any time soon? Any opinions y'all might have would be greatly appreciated.
[HD2 General] galaxys:
^you won't see it on at&t or it will be at least 2nd Q 2010. Tmob will have it 1st Q. So, go for an unlocked Edge one now :cool:
[HD2 General] alwayslearning:
from all i have read the HD2 won't be in US until Feb 2010. I bought one and I am using it on ATT and I just left the TP2 to this phone. I love this phone, it is the best phone I have ever used. I also loved my TP2 which is a great phone, but this one makes you forget the TP2 very fast. I still have the TP2 that works on 3g in US but I am loving this phone so much that I don't miss my TP2. There are times the 2g on this phone is as fast as the 3g on the TP2. Yes, when the HD2 comes to US for 3g I will buy one, but now I am glad I did not wait. I will be looking to buy a HD2 from AUZ once they get the 850m one out.
[HD2 General] erickjr_88:
All i know is that all i want for christmas is an HD2 that runs on at&t's 3G network. . . . i know there's absolutely no chance of that happening but. . . . yea :(
[HD2 General] bL1X:
I've had mine on just Edge for week now and I don't miss 3G at all. It's faster on Edge than my HTC Advantage was on 3G.
[HD2 General] aethicus:
Were to purchase Leo/HD2 in US?

I am on ATT and I know the HD2 (Leo correct?) is not 3G enabled in use (yet) :-)

Were do you recoment purchasing an unlocked version that I can use with my ATT SIM? also any thoughts on what I would look at paying? I assume the HD is final and I can install any of the great LEO ROMS I am seeing :-)
[HD2 General] galaxys:
Look at Ebay, the unlocked hd2 are between $850 - $950 from US sellers.
[HD2 General] bL1X:
Mine cost me 749.66 US with air shipping at Clove.uk.
[HD2 General] mhmobile:
Mine too and I received it in less than 3 days. I've got mine on T-Mobile, Month to Month plan at the moment, not sure if I'll stay with them or not. If sprint picked it up, I'd consider buying another just to be able to stay with Sprint, we've been with them for over 12 years...
[HD2 General] pckshd:
Same here, not flash quick but reasonable for a phone. Btw, what speed are you getting? I am in ~140kbps according to http://mobilespeedtest.com

Can you please tell me your speed? (just need to open that url from device)
[HD2 General] iarapilot:
On ATT I get 150kbps with a full EDGE signal.
[HD2 General] pckshd:
So that must be the average speed on EDGE.

A friend with other 3g phone on same network is getting 300+ :mad:

Anyways...
[HD2 General] harolds:
Don't you mean iPhone on the lower end & Diamond2 on the higher end.
[HD2 General] harolds:
EDGE may be slower, but Internet browsing is much faster for me then on my last phone that had 3G (Sony X1a).

Opera: 165 kbps

IE mobile: 1122 kbps

Anyone know or care to speculate why the huge IE numbers?
[HD2 General] pckshd:
Maybe you connected to USB/PC?

More than 1000kbps is imposible over EDGE
[HD2 General] Goatmaster:
I posted this in another thread but there could be some good news as HTCPedia posted a rom from Telstra (they use the key 850mhz for 3G) on Dec 9th, so maybe it will be released soon there. That is how people got the original HD 3G to work on ATT.
[HD2 General] aang024:
Someone know when will be released in America? And if it comes with AT&T? I hope it go with AT&T because it uses the 3G frequency equal to 850 in Mexico.

Greetings
[HD2 General] Methadras:
Why can't HTC just release a world GSM phone and be done with it. It can't be that hard can it?
[HD2 General] Raspster:
I don't think the ROM will help. The I beleive the HD2 is locked into the euro 3G bands. This is a hardware thing that has held us back in ALL the latest euro/unlocked phones from HTC for the past year.
[HD2 General] bersca:
I'm sure HTC would be happy to release a world GSM phone. But, AT&T would not be since they wouldn't get to sell their phones to us with a 2-year contract. Unfortunately for us, it's more in HTC's interest to keep AT&T happy than it is for them to keep you and I happy:mad:.
[HD2 General] Raspster:
The only people at&t are interested in keeping happy is apple. What a shame. Since the iphone came our (especially the 3gs) I have seen at&t's network drop like a rock in the ny/nj area. I can barley get anything higher than edge and if I'm in the city, I get 150kb if im lucky. Great job at&t!
[HD2 General] bL1X:
pckshd, sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Took me that long to get to town for full bars. 145kbps works fine for me. It's faster than my last phone - HTC Advantage(Athena) and my wifes phone - HTC Pure (unlocked :) ) both on 3G.

God bless her - she has a windows mobile phone now!
[HD2 General] fnuna:
Next Tuesday, January 19th, HD2 850 3G

Hi, perhaps you already know it, but January 19th (next Tuesday) will be available the Telstra's NextG version of the HD2. I find it on Personal Digital Australia, but they have the two versions (european too with black homescreen). Make a search in Google with this text: "HTC Touch HD2 Telstra NEXTG 850Mhz AT&T Roger & Telecom NZ", the first one you will see is a page from Personal Digital with a picture of the HD2 with Telstra's Rom (Blue Homescreen); it says that it will be on stok on January 19th, 2010. Please check it out and tell us your thougths
[HD2 General] The Jack of Clubs:
i wonder what att would rename the phone to. the att htc screwyouappleforswitchingtheiphonetoverizonthisphoneisbettersosuckit?
[HD2 General] harolds:
Works for me.
[HD2 General] fnuna:
Check this out: negrielectronics.com/touch-t9193-smartphone-unlocked-p-3108.html

Don´t know if this store is in the US or in Australia. I found it in a Google´s search with the words: "HD2 T9193"

If someone knows where I can find it unlocked in the US, and with the newest original ROM from HTC, please let me know.
[HD2 General] fnuna:
Negri Electronic in the US

Well, I made a researh and found aout that Negri Electronics is in Wisconsin, US. Any further details I will comunicate to you.

The found is on Ebay too. Make a search under "HD2 T9193". Is from Personal Digital in Australia and it shows lots of details.
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
Some one can tell me the links to the vendors selling the HTC HD2 not Telstra branded to use in the US with AT&T.:cool:
[HD2 General] tkalli:
HD2 European using AT&T

Something must be wrong.

Using Skyfire and the 2MB test, I got 4984 kbps

Using the 5MB test I got 10471 kbps.

Using 7MB test I got 13146 kbps.

:confused:

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[HD2 General] fnuna:
negrielectronics.com/touch-t9193-smartphone-unlocked-p-3108.html (just put the triple w in the begining)

And Ebay. Make a search under "HD2 T9193". Is from Personal Digital in Australia and it shows lots of details. I think this one comes with Telstra´s ROM. The one form Negri Electronics I don´t know.
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
Thanks I check this two:)
[HD2 General] bimori:
I just ran a speed test here @ work, I've had the HD2 on at&t for a about a week.....came out to 204Kbps....
[HD2 General] The Jack of Clubs:
if i had money, i might actually buy the t9193. its a gorgeous, fast phone and having us 3g would only make me want it more. i really wonder if i would like the hd2 over my tp2. i would love a good mix of the phones.
[HD2 General] websquirrel:
Engadget has pegged the HD2 for a 3/24 release in the states on Tmobile.

source
[HD2 General] l3it3r:
I know the whole "exclusive to Tmobile" thing is big right now, but will there be ANY chance at an AT&T 3G capable HD2? I'm getting that 'itch' to upgrade!!
[HD2 General] d4yd4y:
There is the Telstra version, HD2 T9193 that supports AT&T 850 3G. It is in Australia, so you will have to import it for around $800.
[HD2 General] 10332007:
I highly doubt it. They want to milk the iPhone for all its worth right now. After their contract runs out then perhaps, but by then they will be after Windows Phone 7 Series devices so the HD2 is most likely never going to ATT officially. If I could afford it I would get the Telstra version.

However for now I think I will be going to T-Mobile for a year or two until ATT gets something worth owning again...
[HD2 General] orinoco:
I have seen a few of the Australian (Telstra) ones on ebay, and am thinking of getting one for use here in the US. Has anyone got one of these working here that can attest to their functionality (good 3G and other matters)?

Thanks,

Fernando
[HD2 General] ryuu55:
The T9193 work fine in the US, and connects to at&t 3G service. Where I am we use the 850 for 3G and have no issues at all. With installing a good ROM and newer radio (see my signature) I get a better signal than I had with my Fuze.
[HD2 General] andygee:
I have one and must say it is working very well so far. Came in yesterday and everything appears to be working just fine on it.

Andy
[HD2 General] stress_analyst:
Where in GA are you?

I'm in Savannah and we only have 1900 (I have bought an ACER S200 for now).

Do you have 850 working?

Thanks,
[HD2 General] vikramdhani:
So i went ahead and got the phone on ATT network and i dont thin k so i will really miss not having 3G but can i use the $15 plan on the phone or i still need to stick to $30 plan can someone confirm ?
[HD2 General] orinoco:
Settings for Leo on AT&T in the US?

Hello all: I just received my new Leo today from the folks of personaldigital in Australia (very fast shipping).

I am trying to setup my Leo on AT&T 3G here in the US. Is there a list of settings to configure the connection that I can access?

Thanks,

Fernando
[HD2 General] wangtang2k:
Telstra NextG Phone (HD2 Leo)

There is already a Leo that's compatible with AT&T's 3G Network. There are many posts about them I think. Well, it's basically a new HD2 model, the T9193, which is sold by the Australian Mobile Carrier "Telstra" that supports 850Mhz and 2100Mhz. The old model, the T8585, only supported UMTS for the 900 and 2100 Mhz frequencies. AT&T's 3G coverage was supperb when I used it yesterday in Manhattan. The 3G coverage is as good as you would expect from any phone released by AT&T itself, though I know in some areas, not having the 1900Mhz band will mean not being able to use the 3G coverage, but so far so good :D Also, keep in mind that AT&T is actually rolling out their expansion for faster networks and have said (look it up on youtube) that they're planning (if not already done so) to move their 1900Mhz 3G spectrum to the more capable 850Mhz one. WIN!!!

If you choose to buy either the T8585 (Edge on AT&T) or the new T9193 (3G Coverage on AT&T) it is recommended to update the ROM to a new one. Also the T9193 doesn't suffer from the pink-camera issue or the laggy Messaging issue the old T8585 had a few months ago. Make sure the seller has posted pictures of the device being a T9193 on their site (or eBay auction) and state that it is indeed 850Mhz capable. Have fun guys and thanks for your time, and sorry if this has been explained too many times already.
[HD2 General] orinoco:
Yes, indeed. I got the HTC HD2 T9193 (from Telstra). However, it was not configured to be used on the AT&T network, so I am looking for the settings to configure the 3G connection for AT&T.

Perhaps someone can also recommend a good ROM for use here in the US.

Thanks.
[HD2 General] technillion:
3G worked for me straight out the box

...but once I saw all the Telstra BLOATWARE I flashed to Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.2.21893.5.0.90_1.66_M-Lang_Ultimate_V2.2_Radio_2.06.51.07_WWE.

This is BY FAR my most favorite device! 3G/HSDPA working perfect for me! :p
[HD2 General] lude219:
don't bring logic and reason into this. Some people want to deal with it the hard way and stick with the Telstra ROM.;)
[HD2 General] vikramdhani:
I am still looking for the answer if i can use $15 plan on HD2 ? can some one please confirm
[HD2 General] Miwa:
If you have plan that lets you access WAP@CINGULAR then you are good. There's no differences between the $15/$20/$30 plans other than when you bought them, they all use the same login. (The ISP@CINGULAR is the expensive one...)

So, if you have unlimited data plan, and it's working, you're good.
[HD2 General] lude219:
This is what I have (been using it since 2008 on the Diamond).

Don't take it from me, but I heard that AT&T can do sweeps to make sure people are using the right phone with the right data plan (checking IMEI with the data plan). Like if you're you're using a PDA/Smartphone (like the HD2), then you have to purchase the PDA/smartphone data plan.

MediaNet wasn't meant to be handling 3G/HSPA back then because mainly all the phones back then were stuck with EDGE. Ever since smartphones and especially the iphone came along, they had to truncate "medianet" into "iphone" and "pda/smartphone" plans to accommodate the influx of bandwidth and data. You can argue that it's part of the business or simply greed, but it is what it is.

I'm not one of those people who rack up a few gigs on my MediaNet plan, so I hope I'm in the clear (about 100-200mb a month). But if you're planning to abuse the MediaNet plan with your HD2, then you should just upgrade to the PDA/Smartphone plan.
[HD2 General] martouf13:
I also got my phone from Australia and am running it on AT&T 3G. Its totally awesome! To get the data to work you will need to flash the ROM on the phone. First you need to put on the HSPL by flashing it. Then flash a nice cooked ROM. I am using the Artemis 5.0 currently and it is very stable and fast. I have tried many including Dutty and Miri and I like Artemis the best. You can read on how to do all this on this forum.
[HD2 General] cp_kirkley:
I also ordered from PersonalDigital, mine should be arriving tomorrow. LONGEST DAY OF MY LIFE.

I actually thought that 9193 and the 8585 were released at the same time. Other than the supported bands, are there any other major differences? Anything that would allow the 9193 to compare equally/favorably to the TMo version set to release in a few weeks?

Also will the upcoming TMo device support ATT's 3g band? If it does, I'm sending this thing back before I open it.
[HD2 General] mazzarin:
9193 came out a bit later than the 8585. The 9193 is a newer hardware revision than SOME of the 8585 which had some issues (the rest of the 8585 are the same, newer hardware.) And compared to the TMoUS version coming out, we have 512MB less ROM but I don't think that's a big deal.

TMo phones have never supported ATT 3G and I wouldn't expect them to start now :)
[HD2 General] cp_kirkley:
Thanks for the info. Schduled for 10:30 am delivery. Should I just stay up?:D
[HD2 General] carlos_polanco:
Hi people,

Where can I buy the HTC 9131 that is not from ebay.com?
[HD2 General] ryuu55:
you can get one here (non-eBay)

http://personaldigital.com.au/p380/HTC-Touch-HD2-T9193-850Mhz-AT&T-Roger-&-Telecom-NZ/buy.html
[HD2 General] carlos_polanco:
Thanks for your fast reply!

It's still a little bit expensive but will try to get it after March. Supposedly AT&T will start selling it on this month... Hope so
[HD2 General] ryuu55:
yeah, prices have been going up. I picked mine up new on eBay for around $780ish.

This is first I've heard of at&t picking it up.
[HD2 General] jackxlj:
att is not picking it up. They turned the device down as it would compete directly against their premier handset
[HD2 General] 10332007:
Aye, until that iPhone contract is up dont expect ATT to release anything that would directly compete with it.
[HD2 General] willgill:
Where is this iPhone speed test. I'm on AT&T in the USA with a Telstra HD2. Pages load much much faster than with my AT&T Fuze.
[HD2 General] carlos_polanco:
Too bad for AT&T... Will wait till April and see if the price decrese a little
[HD2 General] willgill:
Update, my Telstra HD2 is definitely on AT&T's 3G. I had a friend right next to me on an iPhone. Our speeds were essentially the same from http://testmyiphone.com/