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[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Big D5:
+1 for SPB its worth the money backs up and saves everything.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] huntm856:
Sprite Backup isn't bad. Used it a lot on my MotoQ9c with no issues.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] AstarteSV:
Yeah, just make sure you use the same version for restore as you did while backing up. Tried to restore my roommates palm treo (a couple years ago) and the program didn't want to because it said that the version I backed up with was to old.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] captobie:
+1 on SPB Backup. And when they say it backs up everything, they mean everything. Data, apps, the works. Great program and well worth the money IMHO.

I've tried Sprite Backup but it gave me problems. I tried doing a backup, reflashed my ROM, and when I tried to restore the file wouldn't work. All my data was gone. :mad: So -10 for Sprite Backup.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] colorado_al:
Sprite works for me

I've used Sprite on my Wizard and on my Fuze/Raphael.

This is the copy I'm using now, copied from my Fuze, and it is working fine:

http://www.mediafire.com/?jnxk4wzojh3

One thing you might find is that it usually works best to restore to a device that is factory fresh, i.e. hard reset to factory specs, or to your base ROM whatever that is. If you have a stock ROM you may get an error when you try to run the restore file directly.

I keep a copy of the Sprite Backup.CAB on my storage card, and load it after the hard reset, then use it to open the backup file.

If you have a cooked ROM you probably can just run the exe backup file.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] MattyGit:
I am think about this... but I have not the first clue on how to flash a new ROM, where to find one that is right... is there a faq on this whole process.

I just want a nice stable system...
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Drache:
My vote is with SPB backup.

It makes backups on schedule, I do one every day, then automatically copies the backups to my desktop when I connect it by activesync.

Smooth, reliable, I've restored 1/2 a dozen times without a problem.

Worth the money.
[HD2 General] salamt:
In my opinion, the HD2 will be outdated very soon (Software part) unless HTC announces an official Windows Mobile 7 upgrade. What do you think?
[HD2 General] Pantaloonie:
Worrying about official upgrades is a waste of time if you're a member of XDA-Devs...
[HD2 General] Alfredos:
I will buy this phone when it's released, but sure hope the phone get's a update for windows mobile 7
[HD2 General] precsmo:
fully agreed, kinda waste of time to poll something that no one can find the answer.
[HD2 General] sonus:
That's BS... if you want a bug free phone. ROMS are great for extra functionality, but lets face it, they can be the cause of many headaches especially if you have an extremely busy schedule.

As to the original question. I would be shocked if the HD2 got a WM7 upgrade. Just as HTC didn't upgrade the HD to WM6.5, I doubt they'll be updating the HD2.

I don't think any phone will get Win7 upgradability, just b/c if 7 turns out to be as great as we hope it to be, manufacturers will want to milk every last dime out of us to get us to upgrade. (6.5, 6.1, and even 6.0 were different, as they changed very little besides a minimal amount of skinning between builds)
[HD2 General] salamt:
You didn't get it bro,

If you are a member of XDA you will get the upgrade :)
[HD2 General] wonsanim:
Shure Thing:D
[HD2 General] omaga:
I dont think HD2 get WM7 upgrade, when 7 is coming HTC have new phones for that and HTC has a history to forget all they old customers/devices.
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
also worth remembering that WM7 might be a step backwards!!

consider the change from windows 98 to millenium...a disaster!!..or XP to Vista..just as much a disaster..

don't go thinking that WM7 will be the best thing you've ever seen...it might be, but it might not.
[HD2 General] hmota78:
WM7 will not be out for another 10-12 months, maybe longer. Microsoft officially announced WM 6.5 just last week. It think by the time we get the first phone with WM7, HD2's hardware will be obsolete. We will probably be looking at something with at least 2 GHz and 1 GB RAM by then.
[HD2 General] audscott:
Doubtful: PC based Win 7 is getting good, not glowing, reviews. The major consensus is the improved speed via lightened kernel. WinMo 7 will be a step in the right direction to ward off further losses to android and greater customer satisfaction.
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
I'm not saying it's going to be awful, but it just seems that a lot of poeple are syaing 'we must have WM7...we need it desperately..'....where as I think they should just wait and see. They are in danger of making the jump, finding it isn't that great and then blaming MS for giving a crap product
[HD2 General] Toss3:
Well if wm 7 turns out to be worse than wm 6.5 then whom should we blame but microsoft? It's their product and they've been hyping it for years. :rolleyes:
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
again, I'm not against that point, what I'm saying is why is there so much "we MUST have WM7" and "I only want this phone if I get WM7"??

here's an idea..why not buy a crap nokia, and wait for a year then get a new phone if WM7 is what you're waiting for?
[HD2 General] salamt:
I like WinMo OS and I am not planning to use any other OS anytime soon but it is annoying that I need to upgrade my less than a year HD to the HD2 to get more software features which is in this case WinMo 6.5

magic question is

why apple and android owners have a periodic updates adding new features while we have to buy a new phone to get these updates?
[HD2 General] tids2k:
not unless we here at xda are not capable of putting android or maemo on it ;)

qsd8250 will not be hard enough for an android port.

cheers.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Well, I don't care for Android, so whatever happens with that OS is highly irrelevant. I'm sure I'm not alone.
[HD2 General] angler:
Because HTC prefer to sell a new phone than offering an OS update to exisiting phone for more profit.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
An OS upgrade would cost money to HTC - licensing fees, development costs etc. Since they seem to have a useful lifetime of their flagship model of about 1 year and try to release new ones during the pre-Christmas shopping season, it would be fairly stupid of them to cannibalize sales of their new models by spending money on upgrading older ones.

The mid-model year phones get their upgrades quite often though. So I'd venture to guess that if WM7 gets released early next year and it's not too far away from WM6.5 in terms of porting applications etc. getting an official upgrade would not be impossible... If WM7 is more than half a year away I'd say forget about it.
[HD2 General] Tempest790:
What advantages would Windows Mobile 7 have over 6.5? I thought the new Manila 2.5 basically reskinned the entire OS. The only thing unique I've seen so far is they announced Zune integration with WM7. That feature should be pretty cool.
[HD2 General] vangrieg:
Not the entire OS for sure. Lists, radio buttons, softkeys - all these things are smallish. The bottom "tabs" in apps/settings with multiple screens are tiny. The scroll knob is small. WM 6.5.1 is better in some areas but we're not getting it yet.

In addition to that, WM7 is supposed to bring redesigned more finger-friendly built-in apps like Office.

And finally, the OS will natively support multi-touch, gestures and such, compasses and all the goodies that HTC is bringing with proprietary APIs, but in a way accessible and known to third-party application developers.

Don't know why I'd need "Zune integration" really.
[HD2 General] twisted-pixel:
true, but remember what the apple updates give you...MMS (WM has had it for years), copy and paste (WM has had it for years)

in fact it may be apple held off on giving those things in the first place so that they can be seen to be delivering regular upates. personally, I would prefer to get the whole package up front than settle for a half complete OS and have to wait for an update to give me a feature I should already have
[HD2 General] nator76:
from an iphone user

Hello, this may be my first post ever, im not even sure. I joined here a long time ago because i had a treo 700w. I eventually moved away from windows OS and made the move to Blackberry.

I had a few blackberrys, and i really loved them. Had the storm, which introduced me into the touch screen. Storm was so so, but i knew i didnt want to regress to windows mobile. I tried an iphone and the rest was history. I even swtiched companies to do so. I have loved it ever since...for WHAT it does. I really dislike it (i wouldnt even call it dislike, just annoyed) for what it DOESNT do. I really really miss the ability to customize it to me. i even jailbroke my phone, but thats a slippery slope as far as performance, compatibility, and warranty issues go.

And so that brings me here. The HTC Leo has pulled me back in. This phone looks amazing. The size, speed, and the UI are absolutely inscredible. This thing looks like a flat screen- zero border television in your hands. This phone has managed to match the coolness form factor of the iphone (minimalistic, sleek, dark, stealthy)

i know alot of people here are concerned about whether or not it will be ready for winmo 7. From my point of view, the disadvantages of the iphone never held me back in the choice of switching companies...for alot of money...spending more money on the iphone...and having a more expensive plan...times 2 (my wife wanted one).

If the phone is "hot" enough, it wont hold any back from getting it, especially me. If it can run WM7, great, if not oh well. It can still do everything the iphone does, and more, with a super cool UI.

Just my 2 cents, but if all goes to plan, ill be getting this monster. (as long as it can run att 3g, if not then this post is a waste) It has captured (at least 1) the attention of iphone owners. Take a trip over to macrumors, this phone is gaining some buzz. Thanks for letting me post

btw, great forum, really helpful community, hopefully i can use it in the future
[HD2 General] AshHD:
Only if battery technology improves at the same rate - which is doubtful
[HD2 General] Sc4Freak:
It's worth noting that we won't be seeing anything greater than 512MB RAM in WM7. The CE6 kernel doesn't support it.
[HD2 General] Xzeven:
The decision to have Windows Phone (winmo7) on the Leo wont be entirely up to HTC.

As much as HTC may or may not want it on the device, M$ will have very much more stringent rules than before for allowing their new OS on any devices.

I.E. HTC and any other OEM will need to have very specific hardware for winmo7. Lets hope the HD2 is within the MS guidelines :)
[HD2 General] br3nt:
that I didnt know - got any link for more reading? :)
[HD2 General] Sc4Freak:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb331824.aspx

It's a dry, technical article about the underlying memory model in CE6. The short of it is: in previous versions of CE, you had a limit of 32 processes, and 32MB of memory for each. With CE6, that limit is gone - but you're still limited to 512MB total physical RAM.
[HD2 General] br3nt:
read it in a hurry but did see the part about 512 mb, a bit shame though, 768 mb would have been better... but we dont know what will come after winmo 7, so I guess 512 will be more than sufficient for atleast a year more considering that the current RAM in TD2 and TP2 is 288 MB :p

but what was that about "a 256 MB region used to allocate RAM-backed memory-mapped files."

cant the applications take advantage of that in a sort of virtual memory? or am I messing things up in my head
[HD2 General] Sc4Freak:
Well, sure. But applications in CE6 have something on the order of 2GB of virtual address space - an application will run out of physical memory long before it runs out of virtual memory. That 256mb block for RAM-backed memory-mapped files is mostly for backwards compatibility with CE5.
[HD2 General] precsmo:
it is entirely waste of time for us all to ask about the future WM7 proof for HD2, no one will know. I'm rather worrying more with third party applications if most majors apps will be developed exclusively for capacitive multitouch. A lot of current apps were not design for multitouch and not finger friendly.
[HD2 General] 47789:
IMO, the Leo will not get official wm7 update.

By the time wm7 is ready (rumored Q4 2010), there will be more powerful cpu/gpu (tegra2, cortex A9) available and that's when we will have HD3.

This is to provide HTC the money and consumers the

latest technology

.

Which do you prefer?

(1) HD1 2008 (6.1), HD2 2009 (6.5), HD3 2010 (wm7)? or

(2) HD1 2008-2009 (6.1 upgradeable to 6.5), NO LEO, then HD3 2010 (wm7)?

If history is any indication, HD1 receives no official upgrade to wm6.5 (relatively minor step up), then why should Leo be any different? I know this is unacceptable for many people but don't forget, we have xda. ;)
[HD2 Accessories] Pantaloonie:
Dealextreme are already offering 1100mah batteries for the HD2 - £5.75

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.27012

Although according to the comments, they've been listed for sale since July!
[HD2 Accessories] homer285:
Thats a fairly derogatory thread tittle (and comment) imo.

Japanese products are normally quite good in my experience and besides that the HD2 ships with a 1230 mAh battery why would they sell a battery that has a lower capacity than the original?
[HD2 Accessories] jonboyuk:
I tend to agree with homer. I've bought a number of Japanese copy batteries for various products and they seem to operate to the same capacity as the original.
[HD2 Accessories] Pantaloonie:
Apologies, didn't mean it in any derogatory way, just meant cheapo japanese copies of oem batteries.

I've always found them to work well.
[HD2 Accessories] jrvenge:
Oh wow lol, i already purchased on of these, was only £5, really just for an emergency, keep it in my wallet so if i run out of juice and need to make a call or just to keep you going untill you get home.

Have you noticed its a different pin layout than the original?
[HD2 Accessories] bfspider:
I thought all the cheap knock-off stuff game only from china and the high quality stuff was from japan *shrug*
[HD2 Accessories] audscott:
That's a hell of a retraction: Like calling some one a dumb ass, then apologizing by saying I'm sorry I called you a dumb ass......dumb ass. :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] orich:
help! batclear can't work in HTCMAG_ROM_WWE_O3, my phone is dopod 828+, i run batclear, went it reset ,it's power is still 100%!

http://www.cotulla.pp.ru/MagBatClear.html
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] orich:
no one know why?:(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] orich:
where is cotulla, help !
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Cotulla:
sorry, batclear not always give 100% result.

it's sometimes work.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ayumi_hamasaki:
Hello,

i have saw this uninstallation, but have something i dun understand, so any one please help me.

Uninstallation

*Enter bootloader mode on device (Press POWER + CAMERA + RESET, you will see Serial/USB at top and 1.0X at bottom)

*Connect via USB to PC

*Install ORIGINAL 1.12 or 1.13 ROM. No big storage etc. Install original one!!

[YOU *MUST* REPLACE ROMUpgradeUt.exe TO MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe]

*Now you can flash any other old custom roms.

NOTE: This is ONLY ONE right instruction how to uninstall my rom, otherwise you can have problems with new rom.

the highlighted part i don't know where to get the original.

anyone can guide me on more in detail how to downgrade ?

really appreciate who can help me.

thanks.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] PabloPL:
Just install WWE 3.03 ROM. I did it on my magician (problem with 3.04 and SAMSUNG touchscreen) and it works fine.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kujo_kjc:
just flash 3.03 just like you flash 3.04..
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ayumi_hamasaki:
ok thx man :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] arjaylight:
how about downgrade to wm2003 ROM?

how about downgrade to wm2003 ROM? where i can get the original ROM for magician? I have been searching only to find broken links... can someone post link for Original ROM? Thank you in advance!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] teguhokta:
I hope this would help, I've found the Original wm2003 ROM in other forum, I've downgraded sucessfully after installing Cotulla's WWE 3.03 ROM on my Magician.

http://rapidshare.com/files/18878892/UK_11200_131_11210_ship.exe
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] teguhokta:
Wm 2003 rom

I hope this would help, I've found the Original wm2003 ROM in other forum, I've downgraded sucessfully after installing Cotulla's WWE 3.03 ROM on my Magician.

http://rapidshare.com/files/18878892/UK_11200_131_11210_ship.exe
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] arjaylight:
Thanks!

Hi teguhokta, ive downloaded the file successfully and will try it later! Many thanks!:D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] arjaylight:
success downgrade

Hi teguhokta, i forgot to tell you that your download link works and so as the ROM. Many thanks.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] header2k:
Error 150

I downloaded the ROM from teguhokta and used MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe, but I always get this error message:

(Currentently usind HTCMAG_ROM_WWE_O1)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] arjaylight:
Please note that you can extract the .exe and be sure that you wont use the included ROMUpgradeUt.exe. Use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe instead. You can get it from here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade.
[P3600 ROM Development] jaispida:
Hi, somebody knows if htc 3600 support android?

i see http://www.androidonhtc.com/installing_android

and http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTCTrinity

the question in default.txt

MTYPE=1225

http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/download.php

RAMSIZE ????

RAMADDR ????
[P3600 ROM Development] jejemorg:
For me i try 1805, but it doesn' work and about memory size i try:

first RAMSIZE 0x08000000 (128 Mo i suppose)

and et RAMSIZE 0x04000000 (64 Mo i suppose)

BUt unfortunatly it seems to not working :(

If any body succed on trinity thank you for giving us his parameter :)
[P3600 ROM Development] jejemorg:
http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/port_status

kaizer is near trinity
[P3600 ROM Development] tuksedra:
MTYPE=1213
[P3600 ROM Development] jejemorg:
I try but it's the same, anybody have the solution
[P3600 ROM Development] jaispida:
http://www.comunidadwindowsmobile.es/caracteristicas_htc_trinity_100_p3600-t715.0.html;wap2=

:cool:

http://code.google.com/p/live-android/
[P3600 ROM Development] jaispida:
the cpu is arm920t

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=438943

http://www.friendlyarm.net/downloads

linux on htc trinity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhyZ9NgqwZU

my device stop when :

jumping to kernel...

:confused::confused:
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] lohtse:
Hi everyone

Just got myself a xda orbit. Has WM6(don't know which ver,how do you find out??) Have to say a I do like it... So am wondering what are mods people would recommend and why(please give links)... Is there a better camera, Gps mod etc???

All comments welcome

regards

Lohtse
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] lohtse:
So is there no one out there can answer or offer advise????

Any recommendations for which wm6.5 rom is most complete,fastest, and upto date etc??

regards

Lohtse
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] a_lai82:
Best rom ...

Now thats a difficult one as its personal preference. i would say shadys rom is the best performer. dheetwares looks the best with manilla 2d interface but emrulez is most untouched true to ms version about. be sure to make sure you read up about flashing your rom first. after a while you will will find one you are happy with. ps if you want a finger friendly keyboard look for qvga ezinput. hope that helps.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] lohtse:
Thank you for your reply... Most welcome...

Whats the performance like on the shaby rom??? My Orbit has the stock O2 wm6 on... Would you say its faster, more stable and more upto date etc (better camera, wifi etc) or only marginal????? Just curious as to you thoughts...

regards

lohtse
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] lohtse:
One final question.... Will my backs simple work if I restore them after a rom upgrade or will I have to reinstall everything???

regards

Lohtse
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] a_lai82:
Faster?

If I am totally honest it has been a long time since I have run any 6.1 rom. In fact the day I got it I flashed it from its default rom so it would support sdhc.

Since going over to 6.5 I would not change back, it is so much easier and nicer to use. As for performance, the rom by Shady seems smooth and works very well, plenty of free memory. Shady, Emrulez, Dheetware etc are all legends and have done a fantastic job delivering these roms and are constantly delivering new roms based on the latest code. They all seem pretty stable and as far as I am aware all are fully functional (wifi, gps, camera, bluetooth etc).

Best thing to do is try it yourself!

Also with regards to backing up. I personally use PimPPCBackup (you will need to find and download the cab) just syncing with Outlook keeps your contacts but loses text messages, other people might be able to offer a better way of doing it.

Hope that helps
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] lohtse:
Hi a_lai82

Thank you for your reply. And looks like I will be updating very soon...

As to the backup question... What I meant is can a restore a full internal back up or will I have to reinstall everything??? I use Sprite backup to periodically backup the internal storage so am hoping it will be a simply process of just doing a restore after upgrading to a newer rom. If not it will be a pain as have 254 apps installed!!!!!!!

regards

Lohtse
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] a_lai82:
with pim backup you can specify to backup files as well but i dont think it does app. i have heard you can set it up so that when you reinsert sd card after flashing it will auto install cabs but i havent tried that myself. btw camera software seems a bit better. sorry about lack of paragraphs and punctuation as i am on my phone!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] lohtse:
Again thank you for your reply.....

Should I take it that I will have to reinstall EVERYTHING then????????
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] a_lai82:
I don't know of any way to retain all your programmes. Some apps on your sd card will just run if you add a shortcut in the start menu however anything that is installed on the phone memory, or that requires registry entries will need to be reinstalled.

Unless someone out there knows differently.

That also puts me off flashing my rom, however when trialing Android on my phone it wiped my SD card so I lost all my apps! Since then I only every reinstall about half a dozen apps.

In short if you have your phone running well you can generally add apps to make it do most the stuff in 6.5 such as touch flo. SPB mobile shell 3.5 (paid app / 15 day free trial) is an excellent app works on the original rom and allows for easy use and a bit of an android style home page. Coupled with ezinput you will hardly every use your stylus which was the goal for me.

Hope that helps.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] lohtse:
Hmmmmmmmmmm

This really putting me of the upgrade..... with over 250 apps installed I don't fancy the reinstalling.... was hoping that sprite backup would just copy all the data back(apps,settings,registry etc ) and would work... Hmmmmm may just not bother...

regards

Lohtse
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] a_lai82:
Well I have never used Sprite Backup, but there website implies that it will backup all your applications as well.

Maybe someone else on the forums have tried it and might be able to give you a little more advice on the matter.

All the best
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Xtremerer:
Sorry for stealing your thread, but I thought this could be good lace to ask:

If I flash my rom to newer one, how can I keep my TomTom navigator program ? It originally came with the phone...Thanks.