yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Is the linux swap the third partition or is if the fat32?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Do you guys want Hero and Normal Launcher or MotoHome and normal Launcher? Poll on first post.........
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joth11:
Linux swap
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
I love you.

Thats the only option I didnt mess with!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
The thing is there seem to be 3 different LCD Panels in our kaisers, so if anyone got bad pixels first try to change the panel type
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TheKittnator:
I installed this new android build, looks good:)

but I have the same problem as with another android build I had before, it tells me my PIN is incorrect. I am sure it's right. Did you encounter the same problem before?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
The problem is that android is not able to read out the pin on our builds correctly, disable the pin in WinMo and then you should have no more problems on android
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Uploading v3 look at first post
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] czarnas:
Thx man, downloading and testing.

Edit:

I can't force kaiser to use swap:

My part. table:

fat[2GB] || EXT2 [1GB] || SWAP [386MB] || SWAP [386]

File should be on fat partition, confs are in root of SD and conf dir. What else i can do?

Also failed to mount SU.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TheKittnator:
ahh thx man, it solved the problem.

now stuch at the 'loading system' screen, where I'm able to change volume.. and when it enters sleepmode->lockmode I can unlock. but nothing more then that.

will try to solve it by tweaking tomorrow.. I'll keep updating.

update: after an hour waiting I can do more.. now setting up my mobile..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Online:

Download Link: Umbrella Corporation v, Sense od Default Homescreen

Delete your old data.img First boot takes a while keep the device awake
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bsbllmvp05:
very smooth my friend. everything works great, except i get a message not sent notification whenever i send a text. i am sure that they are being sent because i am getting replies. any ideas?

edit : also, can't import contacts from sim
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 2girls1cup:
yes this is all normal with hero builds. you have to sync your contacts with google sync. That is if you have a google account. sim import is not supported yet on hero.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 2girls1cup:
JeckyllHavok, keep up the good work and progress. You have spawned the revolution for rom customization and development of android for Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] monkeyman08854:
Hey I've got a little issue. I can't seem to get data working... I have the correct settings in default.txt but its just not working.

Also the camera in pro paint takes a green garble instead of a picture.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
Everytime I start the camera, it says there's an error and the application is being forced closed. Touch Flo also crashed. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] monkeyman08854:
you're supposed to use pro paint for the camera.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nishant.gaidhani:
Working now

With the new version and removed older data.img I could get work:).

Thanks for the great work guys.

Few glitches though...

1. Camera does come up but still does not take snap. I tried pressing all the buttons.

2. It keeps on complaining battery is running out of power even though I connect it to charger. Somehow its not able to detect it. When I reboot back to WM, battery is full.

Thanks,

Nishant
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
You have to go to settings-->Wireless-->Wireless Network-->Access Point and enter she settings for your carrier

The default camera isn't working on all builds yet
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Yes, i got this sometimes when connected over usb (at several build) In winMo there was a tool to test your battery and i saw that sometimes USB gives not enough power / normal A/C does
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] yeahdat:
when i run haret it tells me tht it cant open script file...everythings is in tha root of my storage card
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joenie:
not booting

hey dude,

I used the basefiles you linked to & I used your files alltogether, yet it repeats your bootupscreen and nothing else? I have a Tytn II (HTC Kaiser), do you know what I am doing wrong?

grz,

joenie
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] czarnas:
@JeckyllHavok

Can U post Ur output from mount?

mount >> /sdcard/mount.output.txt

i think, still my kaiser doesn't work with swap, dunno why.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Is the hero.user.conf in the conf folder on your storage card?

Can you post your default/startup.txt?

Have you enabled it in you hero.user.conf?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] czarnas:
It's not enabled in Ur hero.conf by default?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
The on from the last package (v3) is the standard one from the basefiles.

You just have to edit the following things:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] czarnas:
I've edited my hero.conf but, still mount doesn't show me any swap partitions mounted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plutarcian:
hi. correct me if im wrong but i have noticed a couple of things.

1 - data dsnt come back automatically if i recieve a call

2 - the user display picture, name etc doesnot load up when a call comes in. it shows the recieve call against the correct contact AFTER the call. but as the phone rings, it dsnt show the name

over all an excelent job. gonna try the v3 latter tonight. im not using any swap file. just compcache . will it really improve performance if i use swapfile ????

thnx and GREAT job. cant wait to get it flashable :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Is there a file called swapfile on the root of your sd? If swap is enabled this file is created at boot

In Sense ui you will have less loading screens with swap enabled
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] czarnas:
no, there is no file called swapfile.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] obaz:
I have downloaded

it isn`t work

then i download

and startup.txt from 1st post.

still not work.

everything is in root of my 8gb sd card.

system loads to unlock screen, then it say that no sim-card.

when I trying to unlock - it begin loading again, but shows thet services can`t start.

where I`m wrong ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] monkeyman08854:
I'm a little confused. When i go to settins there is no "wireless>wireless network>access point" sub hierarchy.

I see Wireless Controls>Mobile network settings>Access Point Names

but when i click on that, there aren't any options. just a blank screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] czarnas:
Push windows key on (under green receiver) and there u have some options.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Disable PIN in WinMo, then it should work. Android isn't yet able to read the sim pin
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Put this file in your conf folder: (rename to hero.user.conf)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] obaz:
pin is not enabled.

you talking about pin1, wright ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] obaz:
JeckyllHavok

kind of bug report
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TheKittnator:
thx for this man,

running v3 now, works fine here.

I got a swap file now making it much faster.

Don't know if u have partitions.. I don't and I don't encounter much problems except these.

with pro paint camera, when I make a picture (holding the touchscreen), it makes a picture, but the only thing I am able to see are green bars.. not really the thing I like to see

an other thing is I can't find anything like a filebrowser, and my mobile can't find any pictures/music on my sd card with album app or music app.. are the missing partitions causing this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plutarcian:
well agreed i will get lot less loading screen but here is my confusion. it takes AGES for the phone to load up anything from the sd. be it picture albums, contact infromation, songs, or any app. it sometimes even times out when changing location. so if i enable swap file, wont the phone more prone be slow as it puts stuff out on the swapfile where it could hold stuff in ram... and can we somehow FORCE more imp stuff to stay in ram. i have disabled the renice script in the conf and use a custom script to set the niceness of phone, mms etc to -20 or -19. i hope it helps. ill try the swap file and see if it helps.

by the way im using an 8gb sdhc class 4 card if that helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Hey guys, sorry i've uploaded a wrong build yesterday. It was one of the earlier tests. Here is the link of thw right one. Just replace with your system.sqsh and keep your data.img. This one has working meida. Sorry was late yesterday.

http://rapidshare.com/files/295672575/systsem.sqsh

Rename to system.sqsh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
You can do this with the swapiness part in your user.conf.. 0 forces the device just to swap if neccessary, 100 swaps as mouch as possible. Try the backigswap instead of swap maybe this will work better
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nishant.gaidhani:
Can you try changing following in Startup.txt to 1/2/3

board-htckaiser.panel_type=1

I've had this when I switched to 3. When I switched to 1 everything was working except few bad pixels. You may need to try all these and see which works for you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Mine just stops at the umbrella corp logo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] freakeee:
hi

I copied al the files: basefiles and system.sqsh to the root of my sd. Once I start haret it loads and stops with the message : failed to find system. Any advice?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Make sure you have rootfs!

and make sure its named exactly system.sqsh not system-10-blah-omg-1-.sqsh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Double post >.>
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] obaz:
yep, work for me till I enable phone. but screen is little messed up
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] freakeee:
thanks found the problem. The system file that I downloaded from the link given had a extra letter "s" if I remember correctly
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] denarsyah:
I've done it!

I have done it!

SD pratition using Gparted USB live (bootable) mine is 8Gb

Fat32 6Gb

Ext2 500Mb

Linux Swap 64Mb

guide on how to: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

my step (all files can be found above url):

- install lusbh-0.0.3 to your USB stick

- download VB6STKIT.dll from http://www.dll-files.com, copy to root of your USB

- run DRBLLiveHelper to install gparted-live-0.3.6-7.zip to your USB stick (NOT your HDD!!!)

- run/ click Makeboot.bat on your USB Stick to make this USB bootable

- restart PC, change boot order USB number 1 booted

- follow intruction until gparted started

- on gparted, click gparted-device-(choose your SD card)

- right click on your SD card and format: Ext2 500Mb, Linux swap 64Mb and the rest is Fat 32 file system.

- your done!

Note: Make sure all process done on USB, NOT on Your HDD!!!

Android running good, phone, wifi, data, sync with gmail contact succesfully

Camera still wont work, adding sim card contact also wont work, adding clock widget forced close

Denarsyah

Kaiser-Hard SPL 3.4-Radio 1710901-PDA corner Ultimate X.V9
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TheKittnator:
I have the same things working/not working, without any partitions.. so not quite essential I guess..

Just 1 question: how do I install drivers so I can see my mobile device on my pc? can't figure it out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 2girls1cup:
I was hoping to see an update on this rom I liked it. i guess this thread died
[Hero, G2 Touch General] kevinof:
Has anyone else got problems using exchange mail on the Hero. Attachments won't display as it says the attachment is corrupted (show's fine using imap to the same account/mail message). Also Attachments don't show for older emails.

Is it just me or has anyone else seen this problem?

thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Syph3r:
I have this same problem, any fix?
[P3600 ROM Development] GuestD2026:
I had some problems flashing a Rom..

After some tries i used mtty..

Cmd>task 32

Level = FF

Cmd>task 28

Storage format start

Write Nand Success

dwBlockToWrite = 13

Storage start block: 433

Storage Total block: 503

Total Bad Block in CE: 0

NeedToEraseBlockStart: 446

NeedToEraseBlockEnd: 936

Storage format success

Cmd>info 8

Block 0x0(0) is Reversed block

Block 0x1(1) is Reversed block

Block 0x2(2) is Reversed block

Block 0x3(3) is Reversed block

Block 0x4(4) is Reversed block

Block 0x5(5) is Reversed block

Block 0x6(6) is BAD block !!!

Block 0x6(6) is Reversed block

Block 0x7(7) is Reversed block

Block 0x8(8) is Reversed block

Block 0x9(9) is Reversed block

Block 0xA(10) is Reversed block

Block 0xB(11) is Reversed block

Block 0xC(12) is Reversed block

Partition[0], type=0x20, start=0x2, total=0x18FE

Partition[1], type=0x23, start=0x1900, total=0x1700

Partition[2], type=0x25, start=0x3000, total=0x18100

Partition[3], type=0x4, start=0x1B100, total=0x1F700

CE Total Length(with sector info) = 0x36F8800

CE CheckSum Length(without sector info) = 0x3620000

I tried to whit other Hard spl and sspl but everytime the same..

Cmd>task 32

Level = 0

Cmd>task 28 55aa

Storage format start

Write Nand Success

dwBlockToWrite = 13

Storage start block: 433

Storage Total block: 503

Total Bad Block in CE: 0

NeedToEraseBlockStart: 446

Storage format success

Cmd>task 28

Storage format start

Write Nand Success

dwBlockToWrite = 13

Storage start block: 433

Storage Total block: 503

Total Bad Block in CE: 0

NeedToEraseBlockStart: 446

Storage format success

Cmd>task 2a

Cmd>info 8

Block 0x0(0) is Reversed block

Block 0x1(1) is Reversed block

Block 0x2(2) is Reversed block

Block 0x3(3) is Reversed block

Block 0x4(4) is Reversed block

Block 0x5(5) is Reversed block

Block 0x6(6) is BAD block !!!

Block 0x6(6) is Reversed block

Block 0x7(7) is Reversed block

Block 0x8(8) is Reversed block

Block 0x9(9) is Reversed block

Block 0xA(10) is Reversed block

Block 0xB(11) is Reversed block

Block 0xC(12) is Reversed block

Partition[0], type=0x20, start=0x2, total=0x18FE

Partition[1], type=0x23, start=0x1900, total=0x1700

Partition[2], type=0x25, start=0x3000, total=0x18100

Partition[3], type=0x4, start=0x1B100, total=0x1F700

CE Total Length(with sector info) = 0x36F8800

CE CheckSum Length(without sector info) = 0x3620000

Cmd>

How can i fix it...??

thx
[P3600 ROM Development] arpcpro:
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up

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[P3600 ROM Development] savagemen:
I have the same problem.

any solution?????
[P3600 ROM Development] Qamarzamsyawal:
yeah me too..my P3600i was fine with until i start flashing..I also got the same result.After using mtty..perhaps our method is wrong.Any experts here pls help us "i" users.
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
On the P3600, it is normal to have a bad block #6 after MTTY. It still functions normally with that.

On the P3600i, I'm sure there is also at least one bad block, but maybe they are different locations.

Someone with a good P3600i know the desired results?
[P3600 ROM Development] Qamarzamsyawal:
maybe there is no one with good P3600i.Is there any other way to figure it out?Someone who have the original rom maybe?
[P3600 ROM Development] Qamarzamsyawal:
Mtty116 IS A TROJAN??

I wonder why is so hard to find this cute little software..

This is why..

http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/report.html?id=b0e2343a89aeb002c8bdd53fcf1643bfff5ca056290b2fdf16b66a8f13c8238a-1283316550
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
My guess would be that this is due to the fact that the software 'MTTY' is specifically designed to modify the Operating System, thus the Trojan Warning. For those who do not know what it's for, they could cause damage to their systems. This is just a theory. I've used MTTY for a couple years now, and have not noticed any adverse side effects, but maybe I'm missing something... :o

By all means, if you are not comfortable using it, please do not. Better safe than sorry.
[P3600 ROM Development] Qamarzamsyawal:
One Bad Block is down..One more to go

Hey Sport!!

Successfully erase one bad block from my P3600i. But there is another one. It won't come out. Do anyone know why is this happen??

This is my result using "mtty116.exe"

Cmd>set 14 0

Write Nand Success

HTCST ÚÈÒHTCE

Cmd>task 28 55aa

Storage format start

Write Nand Success

dwBlockToWrite = 13

Storage start block: 646

Storage Total block: 1357

Total Bad Block in CE: 0

NeedToEraseBlockStart: 659

NeedToEraseBlockEnd: 2003

Storage format success

Cmd>task 0

Cmd>info 8

Block 0x0(0) is Reversed block

Block 0x1(1) is Reversed block

Block 0x2(2) is Reversed block

Block 0x3(3) is Reversed block

Block 0x4(4) is Reversed block

Block 0x5(5) is Reversed block

Block 0x6(6) is Reversed block

Block 0x7(7) is Reversed block

Block 0x8(8) is Reversed block

Block 0x9(9) is Reversed block

Block 0xA(10) is Reversed block

Block 0xB(11) is Reversed block

Block 0xC(12) is Reversed block

Block 0x346(838) is BAD block !!!

Block 0x792(1938) is BAD block !!!

Partition[0], type=0x20, start=0x2, total=0xFE

Partition[1], type=0x23, start=0x100, total=0x1300

Partition[2], type=0x25, start=0x1400, total=0x27200

Partition[3], type=0x4, start=0x28600, total=0x54D00

CE Total Length(with sector info) = 0x5203000

CE CheckSum Length(without sector info) = 0x50C0000

Cmd>password

Cmd>task 32

Level = 0

Cmd>task 28

Storage format start

Write Nand Success

dwBlockToWrite = 13

Storage start block: 646

Storage Total block: 1357

Total Bad Block in CE: 0

NeedToEraseBlockStart: 659

NeedToEraseBlockEnd: 2003

Storage format success

Cmd>task 2A

Check block : 838 - Good

Check block : 1938 - Bad

Cmd>info 8

Block 0x0(0) is Reversed block

Block 0x1(1) is Reversed block

Block 0x2(2) is Reversed block

Block 0x3(3) is Reversed block

Block 0x4(4) is Reversed block

Block 0x5(5) is Reversed block

Block 0x6(6) is Reversed block

Block 0x7(7) is Reversed block

Block 0x8(8) is Reversed block

Block 0x9(9) is Reversed block

Block 0xA(10) is Reversed block

Block 0xB(11) is Reversed block

Block 0xC(12) is Reversed block

Block 0x792(1938) is BAD block !!!

Partition[0], type=0x20, start=0x2, total=0xFE

Partition[1], type=0x23, start=0x100, total=0x1300

Partition[2], type=0x25, start=0x1400, total=0x27200

Partition[3], type=0x4, start=0x28600, total=0x54D00

CE Total Length(with sector info) = 0x5203000

CE CheckSum Length(without sector info) = 0x50C0000

Cmd>task 8
[P3600 ROM Development] coolpixs4:
my P3600 have 2 BAD block, how can I fix it ?

Cmd>info 8

Block 0x0(0) is Reversed block

Block 0x1(1) is Reversed block

Block 0x2(2) is Reversed block

Block 0x3(3) is Reversed block

Block 0x4(4) is Reversed block

Block 0x5(5) is Reversed block

Block 0x6(6) is BAD block !!!

Block 0x6(6) is Reversed block

Block 0x7(7) is Reversed block

Block 0x8(8) is Reversed block

Block 0x9(9) is Reversed block

Block 0xA(10) is Reversed block

Block 0xB(11) is Reversed block

Block 0xC(12) is Reversed block

Block 0x3E2(994) is BAD block !!!

Partition[0], type=0x20, start=0x2, total=0x18FE

Partition[1], type=0x23, start=0x1900, total=0x1500

Partition[2], type=0x25, start=0x2E00, total=0x1D100

Partition[3], type=0x4, start=0x1FF00, total=0x5C400

CE Total Length(with sector info) = 0x40DF800

CE CheckSum Length(without sector info) = 0x3FE0000

Cmd>
[P3600 ROM Development] schiac:
I have 4 BAD BLOCK :mad:

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Cmd>task 2A

Check block : 176 - Bad

Check block : 371 - Bad

Check block : 545 - Bad

Check block : 993 - Bad

Cmd>info 8

Block 0x0(0) is Reversed block

Block 0x1(1) is Reversed block

Block 0x2(2) is Reversed block

Block 0x3(3) is Reversed block

Block 0x4(4) is Reversed block

Block 0x5(5) is Reversed block

Block 0x6(6) is Reversed block

Block 0x7(7) is Reversed block

Block 0x8(8) is Reversed block

Block 0x9(9) is Reversed block

Block 0xA(10) is Reversed block

Block 0xB(11) is Reversed block

Block 0xC(12) is Reversed block

Block 0xB0(176) is BAD block !!!

Block 0x173(371) is BAD block !!!

Block 0x221(545) is BAD block !!!

Block 0x3E1(993) is BAD block !!!

Partition[0], type=0x20, start=0x2, total=0x18FE

Partition[1], type=0x23, start=0x1900, total=0x1800

Partition[2], type=0x25, start=0x3100, total=0x23000

Partition[3], type=0x4, start=0x26100, total=0x58F00

CE Total Length(with sector info) = 0x4D50800

CE CheckSum Length(without sector info) = 0x4C20000

Cmd>task 8
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] jbevan:
My TP2 has started beeping loudly at regular intervals. I thought it was new email notifications but this option is turned off. Also started to freeze a lot - in fact its just done it again. WTF is going on here? Help. Think might be associated with synced outlook email - not sure why?
[General Questions and Answers] springrain8888:
i use LPT connection jtag.but ntrst no connection.

jtag eror:

upper and lower flash memory ID does not match.

You may have a damaged flash memory.

upper half reads:90

lower half reads:A

help me,thanks
[General Questions and Answers] Rudegar:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?auto_redirect=1&pagename=TitleSearch&s=jtag

here are some jtag guides
[General Questions and Answers] springrain8888:
thank you:)
[General Questions and Answers] springrain8888:
use h-jtag connection CPU（PXA270）success.but connection FLASH error.
[General Questions and Answers] springrain8888:
LPT connection jtag:

LPT2=TCK;

LPT3=TDI;

LPT4=TMS;

LPT11=TDO;

LPT18-25=battery(-);

NTRST=null

jflashmm pxa27x32 ebo_a.nb0 N 0 PAR

jflashmm pxa27x32 ebo_a.nb0 N 3F40000 PAR

upper and lower flash memory ID does not match.

You may have a damaged flash memory.

upper half reads:90

lower half reads:A
[General Questions and Answers] springrain8888:
i have find flash.

M-Systems

Flash Disk Pioneers

DiskOnChip MCP

MS25-010SD9-B3-P

japan 064IKAD-P23718
[General Questions and Answers] springrain8888:
who can help me?please help me,thank you cery much.
[General Questions and Answers] nickushorul:
i have same problem :( like springrain8888

cand some 1 help me pls ?
[Touch HD General] stoolzo:
ok, so i have 8 months left on my contract with my HD and just must have the HD2, doesnt anyone know of any tricks to get out of my contract without shelling out £300?
[Touch HD General] shadz:
I doubt it as your Phone Rental is a Credit Agreement. I've tried before and got absolutely no-where.

Best of luck though.
[Touch HD General] veehexx:
8months.... no chance.

i'd say let this phone run to the end of it's contract, but get a 2nd contract now, with the HD2.

you'll be paying for 2x contracts for 8months, but class it as a 'premium' to get the phone you want!

swap sim cards once you have the HD2 so you keep your number.

once the 8months is up, cancel the 1st contract, and have a number swap onto the new simcard, and thus you then get the 2nd contracts' deals.

just a thought!
[Touch HD General] stoolzo:
I am going to try to reduce my monthly payments from £35, i managed it when I was on 02, I got it down to £15 then paid off the contract